[12:00] <zF> I got some errors in compilation but I don't think it was significant to the main install.
[12:00] <biovore> eedge: boot of the livecd and mount your HD
[12:00] <malverian[work] > Hmm.. with DapperDrake, if I hit <Shift>BackSpace, it kills my X session.
[12:00] <asymmetry> relachs, i can see where that would be an issue - try downloading a small 2.6 kernel-based live cd of some linux distro, usually the stock 2.6s are built for smp
[12:00] <eedge> Yes, I have.
[12:00] <biovore> eedge: then run chroot hd_location
[12:00] <phiber_optic> trappist I see a lot letters which will be my ikey?
[12:00] <malverian[work] > Anyone else noticing this problem?
[12:00] <biovore> eedge: then run grub-install
[12:00] <eedge> I booted off a live CD, and did grub-install
[12:00] <theking_2100> soundray what i should do now? where can i run ndiswrapper
[12:00] <eedge> but I get this error:
[12:00] <biovore> eedge: you have to chroot first
[12:01] <eedge> yes, I did.
[12:01] <biovore> eedge: what error?
[12:01] <zF> _jason: http://pastebin.com/565885
[12:01] <soundray> theking_2100, will be with you in a few mins
[12:01] <eedge> I get cannot read /boot/grub/stage1 correctly.
[12:01] <eedge> or something to that affect.
[12:01] <biovore> that when running grub install?
[12:01] <eedge> but I can navigate to /boot/grub/stage1, and it is there.
[12:01] <eedge> yes, when running grub-install.
[12:01] <relachs> asymmetry, i do not have a centrino^^
[12:01] <soundray> ubotu, tell theking_2100 about ndiswrapper
[12:01] <biovore> hmmm
[12:02] <RacerX> Hey everyone
[12:02] <biovore> not sure where to go...
[12:02] <eedge> heh :)
[12:02] <asymmetry> relachs, are you looking to buy one, or something?
[12:02] <_jason> zF: ha I like their design at the end of configure
[12:02] <zF> _jason, me too :)
[12:02] <trappist> phiber_optic: I can probably tell you more if you can tell me more about what you're doing and what the message is
[12:02] <esd_lnx> whats the text contents of your timestamps? anyone?
[12:03] <relachs> asymmetry, yea
[12:03] <rend> !vmware
[12:03] <eedge> thats my problem exactly.
[12:03] <biovore> esd_lnx: I think is seconds since boot
[12:03] <eedge> I don't even know where to start from now.
[12:03] <phiber_optic> trappist im trying to ssh my computer but I says that the RSA key has been changed. To put the new
[12:03] <eedge> And I really dont want to have to reinstall just for a grub problem.
[12:03] <biovore> eedge: I don't think you have to reinstall
[12:03] <esd_lnx> biovore i need the time hh  beside text chat
[12:03] <asymmetry> relachs, i dunno what to tell you other than (warning: controversy-inducing statement following) find something amd-based - if thats not an option, ill try and find some info
[12:04] <trappist> phiber_optic: for each computer you've ssh'ed to there is a line in your known_hosts file.  delete the line for the computer you're connecting to.
[12:04] <wastrel> maybe copy stage1 off the cd onto the hdd?
[12:04] <rend> vmware has an rpm.. should i use the .tgz version or rpm?
[12:04] <phiber_optic> ok trappist im going to try that
[12:04] <zF> !rpm
[12:04] <ubotu> methinks rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[12:04] <mamefan> rend:  I've had good luck with the .tgz.  Never tried the RPM.
[12:04] <relachs> asymmetry, hehe it's ok :)
[12:04] <biovore> esd_lnx: you mean the current time?
[12:04] <relachs> something totally different: i need to install windows xp now (shame on me^^) i heard that windows will overwrite the master boot sector... so i can not log on ubuntu anymore. any hints/tips?
[12:05] <esd_lnx> yeah
[12:05] <asymmetry> relachs, my laptop (this system) is running off of a p4, my desktop is running an athlon64
[12:05] <biovore> esd_lnx: I have 11:06 GMT
[12:05] <biovore> pm
[12:05] <biovore> 23:06:00 Zulu
[12:05] <asymmetry> relachs, its possible to get the windows xp loader to load your ubuntu install
[12:05] <eedge> biovore, well neither would I, but I'm really stumped for ideas...
[12:05] <biovore> eedge: It ussully works here
[12:06] <relachs> how? :-) i know where to edit the boot.ini (?? it was) but i do not know what to enter there
[12:06] <biovore> eedge: you can chroot into your linux enviroment and just install lilo
[12:06] <asymmetry> son of a bitch!
[12:06] <zF> _jason, you still alive buddy? :o
[12:06] <relachs> relachs how? :-) i know where to edit the boot.ini (?? it was) but i do not know what to enter there
[12:06] <_jason> zF: checkinstalling is installing now
[12:06] <Evodawg> What's the command to check cpu usage?
[12:07] <biovore> top
[12:07] <wastrel> eedge:  maybe copy stage1 off the CD?
[12:07] <asymmetry> relachs, you need an alternate file storage location to use really fast - must be accessible from windows
[12:07] <_jason> zF: no errors
[12:07] <eedge> Ooooh, good idea :)
[12:07] <eedge> hehe :)
[12:07] <biovore> wastrel: cd uses an ISO boot loader
[12:07] <esd_lnx> biovere  its now at   %b %d %H:%M:%S   but it does not show time near text chat
[12:07] <eedge> why didn't I think of that?
[12:07] <eedge> ... lol
[12:07] <biovore> eedge: text chat?
[12:07] <_jason> zF: do 'apt-get build-dep nmap'
[12:07] <biovore> eedge: you talking about your IRC client?
[12:07] <zF> _jason, maybe it has to do with me not having gtk installed for the graphical front end?
[12:07] <_jason> zF: maybe
[12:08] <computergeek6933> hello all
[12:08] <_jason> zF: check for a configure option to get rid of it
[12:08] <computergeek6933> i have a problem
[12:08] <Evodawg> What's the command to check cpu usage?
[12:08] <zF> _jason, what's that?
[12:08] <relachs> asymmetry, ? no idea what you mean
[12:08] <biovore> Evodawg: TOP
[12:08] <_jason> zF: that apt-get command installs the build dependencies for nmap
[12:08] <wastrel> eedge:  i found this... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=175689
[12:08] <asymmetry> relachs, floppy, another partition that can be written to from your linux install, etc
[12:08] <zF> _jason, 48.2MB of files?
[12:08] <computergeek6933> i have a question
[12:09] <ompaul> !ask
[12:09] <IdleOne> computergeek6933:  ask it
[12:09] <Evodawg> biovore:  I mean program usage
[12:09] <_jason> zF: heh guess so
[12:09] <computergeek6933> when running configure for any program
[12:09] <eedge> biovore, no I was talking about the idea of copying the stage1 file from else where.
[12:09] <zF> _jason, will that work for any source?
[12:09] <computergeek6933> it has a problem with my gcc
[12:09] <eedge> and I'm just checking that link.
[12:09] <relachs> asymmetry, i have a floppy yes...
[12:09] <zF> to find the build dependencies
[12:09] <_jason> zF: that gives you the deps for the package in the repos
[12:09] <ompaul> computergeek6933, why are you trying to build it
[12:09] <IdleOne> computergeek6933:  sudo apt-get install gcc
[12:09] <computergeek6933> oh yeah
[12:09] <ompaul> IdleOne, NO
[12:09] <computergeek6933> i have a problem with sudo
[12:09] <biovore> Evodawg: like how much memory a process is taking
[12:09] <IdleOne> ompaul: ??
[12:09] <asymmetry> relachs, sweet - first, gotta get some info to put the command together - what is the mount point for your floppy, and the device name for your linux boot partition?
[12:09] <Evodawg> yes biovore
[12:10] <relachs> can't i use the ubuntu CD to boot ubunutu?
[12:10] <computergeek6933> whenever i type in my password with sudo it doesnt work but if i su root and type my pass it works
[12:10] <ompaul> computergeek6933, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:10] <fangorious> what is on the dapper flight-4 cd that i can format a cdrw with?
[12:10] <computergeek6933> ill try it ompaul
[12:10] <fangorious> livecd, that is.
[12:10] <biovore> Evodawg: top will show it..
[12:10] <zF> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/m4/m4_1.4.4-1_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[12:10] <zF> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:10] <zF> E: Failed to process build dependencies
[12:10] <ompaul> IdleOne, give the whole thing build env and all
[12:10] <zF> ...
[12:10] <zF> This just isn't working for me!
[12:10] <Evodawg> biovo
[12:10] <IdleOne> computergeek6933:  I point to ompaul  . he;s right
[12:10] <computergeek6933> thanks much ompaul
[12:11] <biovore> Evodawg: or ps -axl
[12:11] <computergeek6933> but do you have any idea why my sudo does not work?
[12:11] <thegladiator> i installed a program called eboard (chess) how can I know where the file is installed ?
[12:11] <_jason> zF: you are using breezy?
[12:11] <relachs> err
[12:11] <soundray> theking_2100, back
[12:11] <IdleOne> computergeek6933:  what is it not doing ?
[12:11] <asymmetry> thegladiator, find / -name eboard
[12:11] <ompaul> computergeek6933, what do you mean does not work?
[12:11] <zF> _jason, Dapper
[12:11] <soundray> theking_2100, did you have a look at the ndiswrapper link?
[12:11] <computergeek6933> when i type sudo <command>
[12:11] <zF> _jason, make install installed nmap 4.01 fine.
[12:11] <Evodawg> biovore: that's what I was looking for
[12:11] <ompaul> please take dapper conversations to #ubuntu+1
[12:11] <computergeek6933> ii then type in my password
[12:11] <computergeek6933> but it doesnt work
[12:12] <zF> Looks like it's on checkinstall's end.
[12:12] <eedge> wastrel, I can't attempt what it said in the link now as I don't have access to the machine anymore - girlfriends checking emails in windows :( tut tut. But its gone in my google ig bookmarks, so I'll try it later - Thanks everyone for suggestions.
[12:12] <computergeek6933> however if i su and type in my password, it works fine
[12:12] <eedge> If that doesn't work I'll try it with a different stage1 file.
[12:12] <computergeek6933> *if i su and run the command
[12:12] <_jason> zF: well if it's installed already
[12:12] <IdleOne> computergeek6933:  then use su
[12:12] <eedge> nn
[12:12] <SonicYooth> Can anyone tell me how to safely uninstall programs? I removed the evolution mail client and my ubuntu wouldnt boot so I had to reinstall.
[12:12] <relachs> asymmetry, i can not really follow you :P
[12:12] <computergeek6933> i do use su but doesn anyone know why sudo acts so strangely?
[12:12] <wastrel> computergeek6933:  did you edit /etc/sudoers?  are you still in the admin group?
[12:12] <Angel_Dex> Is a ferking server down or somthing?
[12:12] <Angel_Dex> TT_TT
[12:13] <zF> Looks like my scan of localhost finished .5 seconds faster
[12:13] <computergeek6933> no im as a normal user and did not edit sudoers
[12:13] <Evodawg> biovore:  also my hard drive space is getting low and I need to know what's using it up   And Thanks
[12:13] <fangorious> can nautilus-cd-burner format cdrw discs?
[12:13] <asymmetry> relachs, dude - where does your floppy mount to in linux? /mnt/floppy? /media/floppy?
[12:13] <zF> Quite an improvement on the earlier version! hhaha
[12:13] <ompaul> computergeek6933, why does su work - did you give root a password?
[12:13] <theking_2100> soundray
[12:13] <computergeek6933> yes
[12:13] <theking_2100> yes
[12:13] <wastrel> fangorious:  i just burned a cdrw with nautilus
[12:13] <soundray> theking_2100, did you have a look at the ndiswrapper link?
[12:13] <biovore> Evodawg: df -h
[12:13] <ompaul> computergeek6933, are you the first usernamethe box
[12:13] <biovore> du -h
[12:13] <theking_2100> soundray yep
[12:13] <Angel_Dex> Anyone?
[12:13] <ompaul> computergeek6933, are you the first username on the box
[12:13] <computergeek6933> yes, not root
[12:13] <fangorious> wastrel: i know how to burn, i need to format it first though
[12:13] <Angel_Dex> Plz im getting flusterd TT_TT Im hoping its just a server down
[12:14] <ompaul> computergeek6933, did you edit /etc/sudoers?
[12:14] <Evodawg> biovore: /dev/hda1             9.6G  8.4G  755M  92% /
[12:14] <soundray> theking_2100, any luck?
[12:14] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  nobody knows what you're talking about
[12:14] <computergeek6933> ompaul: no
[12:14] <fdr> hello... with ubuntu 5.04 when I plugged in my digital camera automatically was started a program that let me browse the photos and download them... after the update to 5.10 it doesnt work anymore... what was that program called so that I can run it manually, please?
[12:14] <Angel_Dex> wastrel the repos of course
[12:14] <biovore> Evodawg: run du -h from a directory to see how big it is
[12:14] <Evodawg>  du -h  that's it
[12:14] <relachs> asymmetry, /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[12:14] <theking_2100> soundray should i open the terminal window?
[12:14] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  mine are ok.
[12:14] <ompaul> IdleOne, we don't advocate the use of SU we leave that to every other distro and unprepared Unix box :)
[12:14] <Angel_Dex> wastrel i cant install anything for KDE or abi word
[12:14] <fdr> my camera is a canon powershot, so I guess it was some kind of GUI to gphoto
[12:14] <biovore> biovore: you can use the find command to find files bigger then x size
[12:14] <Evodawg> thanks guys
[12:14] <asymmetry> relachs, okay, cool... what is the linux boot partition? /dev/hda1, or what?
[12:15] <biovore> lopl
[12:15] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  did you add universe repos?
[12:15] <Angel_Dex> yes
[12:15] <thought> any of you guys use tor ?
[12:15] <soundray> fdr, gthumb probably
[12:15] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  and apt-get update  after ?
[12:15] <thought> ?
[12:15] <relachs> asymmetry, i think it's /dev/hdc5       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:15] <Angel_Dex> wastrel No?what does that do? I never needed to do that befor
[12:15] <soundray> theking_2100, the ubotu link is outdated. Did you find https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper ?
[12:15] <fdr> soundray, no, my camera does not export a filesystem, it needs to be accessed through gphoto
[12:16] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  apt-get update downloads new package lists from the repos
[12:16] <asymmetry> relachs, alright then - put in your floppy, and at your console, enter: sudo mount /dev/fd0
[12:16] <ompaul> computergeek6933, in a terminal do this >> sudo id<< give me back the username - also which version are you using?
[12:16] <biovore> brb
[12:17] <SonicYooth> Can anyone tell me how to safely uninstall programs? I removed the evolution mail client and my ubuntu wouldnt boot so I had to reinstall. Is there any way to know if a package is safe to uninstall or not?
[12:17] <asymmetry> relachs, got that done?
[12:17] <wastrel> SonicYooth:  apt-get remove should be safe - but check whether depends are being removed also...
[12:17] <TomaszD> SonicYooth, you have to pay attention to dependencies.
[12:17] <Angel_Dex> Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s).
[12:17] <Angel_Dex> Do you want to continue, ignoring these packages?  wastrel
[12:17] <soundray> SonicYooth, apt-get remove packagename
[12:17] <theking_2100> soundray yes
[12:18] <ompaul> SonicYooth, you obviously took out more than evolution
[12:18] <theking_2100> i was looking at it
[12:18] <relachs> asymmetry, yea i did, but it was a floppy disc i need so i changed it
[12:18] <Angel_Dex> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/arts/libarts1c2_1.4.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[12:18] <Angel_Dex>   Size mismatch
[12:18] <Angel_Dex>   wastrel
[12:18] <SonicYooth> wastrel, yeah.... is there a way to tell apt-get not to remove dependencies?
[12:18] <relachs> asymmetry, do i need to un mount and remount?
[12:18] <theking_2100> i tryed  sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/drivers/{driver}.inf
[12:18] <asymmetry> relachs, what do you mean, you changed it? /dev/fd0 is the floppy drive... what'd you mount?
[12:18] <LiteHedded> I need some software to remind me to do things at certain times :)
[12:18] <LiteHedded> what can i use for that?
[12:19] <asymmetry> relachs, if you switched floppies, yes, unmount and remount
[12:19] <theking_2100> in the terminal
[12:19] <relachs> i mounted like you said, but i noticed there were data on the disc i need in future
[12:19] <relachs> unmount, command? :)
[12:19] <soundray> theking_2100, did you replace {driver}.inf with the stuff for your card?
[12:19] <theking_2100> but i says can't find the folder
[12:19] <Angel_Dex> wastrel Now image viewer is missing from me menu? @.@
[12:19] <asymmetry> relachs, umount /dev/fd0
[12:19] <soundray> theking_2100, do you have Windows as well?
[12:20] <asymmetry> relachs, this process doesnt erase anything on your disk
[12:20] <relachs> unmount is not a command
[12:20] <theking_2100> soundray yes
[12:20] <asymmetry> relachs, not uNmount, umount
[12:20] <theking_2100> i have win xp pro
[12:21] <theking_2100> but i want to learn linux fed up with windows
[12:21] <relachs> asymmetry, great
[12:21] <asymmetry> relachs, alright, got the floppy mounted?
[12:21] <relachs> yea
[12:21] <soundray> theking_2100, you have to point ndiswrapper -i to the driver file that Windows uses. That's the whole point of ndiswrapper.
[12:21] <asymmetry> relachs, now, this next command is fun, but enter it EXACTLY as you see it
[12:21] <asymmetry> sudo dd if=/dev/hda5 of=/media/floppy0/linux.bin bs=512 count=1
[12:21] <relachs> on the disc i have a picture =) Fr 25 Mai 2001 15:27:40 CES i last modified
[12:21] <asymmetry> relachs, should give you 1 record in, 1 record out
[12:22] <relachs> im up for fun, but damage my system^^
[12:22] <theking_2100> what i should do then copy my driver.inf into linux?
[12:23] <theking_2100> .inf or .dll?
[12:23] <soundray> theking_2100, no, you should copy the entire drivers directory over to ~/drivers/
[12:23] <asymmetry> relachs, what that command does is make a copy of that partition's boot sector
[12:23] <Angel_Dex> What does this mean? W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gxine/gxine_0.4.4-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[12:23] <Angel_Dex>   Size mismatch
[12:23] <asymmetry> relachs, wait... you have grub installed in that drives mbr, don't you?
[12:24] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, don't use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <relachs> erm, maybe lilo
[12:24] <Angel_Dex> Seveas ok so what do i switch it to?
[12:24] <theking_2100> what driver ? from windows or from my cd installation of my wifi usb card?
[12:24] <relachs> but im not sure
[12:24] <relachs> i have not entered sudo dd if=/dev/hda5 of=/media/floppy0/linux.bin bs=512 count=1 yet!
[12:24] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, archive.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <soundray> theking_2100, from windows, if you installed the driver there.
[12:24] <asymmetry> relachs, well, either way, if its installed to the mbr, your boot partition doesn't HAVE a boot sector, so this wont work - you need to install a boot loader of some kind onto /dev/hda5
[12:25] <Angel_Dex> Seveas Oks
[12:25] <theking_2100> ok
[12:25] <Angel_Dex> Seveas On all of them or just universe?
[12:25] <mrkris> is something happening to the archives right now? i keep getting mismatch errors and found that the deb files are "html" errors
[12:25] <soundray> theking_2100, can you see your Windows data from Ubuntu?
[12:25] <theking_2100> no lol
[12:25] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, all
[12:25] <soundray> theking_2100, you have a terminal open?
[12:25] <Seveas> us.archive seems to have problems once again
[12:25] <theking_2100> yep
[12:25] <relachs> asymmetry, err, i can choose on start up what OS i want to boot
[12:26] <relachs> it's text based
[12:26] <relachs> no graphic
[12:26] <Angel_Dex> Seveas ok so remove the US got ya ill try it now
[12:26] <asymmetry> relachs, thats because its loading the boot loader from the master boot record of that drive - theres only one on each physical drive, and when you install windows, it overwrites it
[12:26] <soundray> theking_2100, do a 'sudo -i'. Enter your password. Do you get a prompt that ends in # ?
[12:27] <relachs> asymetry hmm can i use a floppy for selecting OS to boot?
[12:27] <asymmetry> relachs, generally, no
[12:27] <theking_2100> ok now
[12:27] <theking_2100> i've got the #
[12:27] <william> how can i get azureus? i tried sudo apt-get install azureus but it said no installation package
[12:27] <Silivrenion> does lvm auto configure fstab to work with it?
[12:27] <relachs> what else can i do then..
[12:27] <metho> hello, i am having trouble updating, update fails after some time, seems to be trouble with respositeries
[12:27] <asymmetry> relachs, and its calling the boot files on /dev/hda5 from the boot loader in the mbr - if you don't have a boot loader on the partition youre trying to boot, it cant boot itself - this trick uses the boot sector of the boot loader of the target partition to load itself from the ntloader
[12:27] <soundray> theking_2100, now is Windows on the first hard disk partition?
[12:27] <zF> !azureus
[12:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[12:28] <relachs> i see
[12:28] <Silivrenion> ---> Does lvm auto configure fstab?
[12:28] <asymmetry> Azureus is plagued with rampant memory leakage problems.
[12:28] <theking_2100> i've got windows on the first partition of the master hdd
[12:28] <soundray> theking_2100, okay, try this: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt
[12:28] <relachs> so how can i fix it, and why does the bootloader on the linux partition gets called even if the MBR is overwritten?
[12:28] <zF> Has there been a port of u-torrent to Linux?
[12:28] <theking_2100> and linu on a slave hdd
[12:28] <metho> any ideas
[12:28] <mrkris> Seveas: that's what i thought :)
[12:28] <asymmetry> relachs, right now, there is no boot loader on the linux partition - you have to put one there prior to installing windows
[12:29] <soundray> theking_2100, does it say something like "mounting read-only"?
[12:29] <[DFC] EggMan> zF : no uTorrent is windows only
[12:29] <zF> That sucks.
[12:29] <zF> It's such a great application
[12:29] <theking_2100> it's says nothing
[12:29] <[DFC] EggMan> it is
[12:29] <Angel_Dex> Seveas I did replace all us. with nothing hehehe that work?
[12:29] <zF> If it's free software, why don't they just release the source
[12:29] <babyboy> how do i add deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main to my sources.list????
[12:29] <asymmetry> relachs, grub/lilo have options that say where its getting installed to - if youre using lilo, look in /etc/lilo.conf, at the top. it'll say /dev/hda. change that to /dev/hda5, and rerun lilo. watch out, though, reloading bootloaders can hose things pretty badly if done wrong
[12:29] <rewt_> Whats best pr0g to burn cd's with. Like music cd's
[12:29] <rewt_> ?
[12:30] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, yup, now do apt-get update and you can install things again
[12:30] <relachs> oh my god :\
[12:30] <[DFC] EggMan> zF: even if they did release the source they would have to re-write uTorrent
[12:30] <theking_2100> just a new line to type in commands
[12:30] <ubuntu_> hello
[12:30] <soundray> theking_2100, okay, try 'cd /mnt/Program\ Files'. You'll need the backslash.
[12:30] <relachs> if windows only were leave the MBR :(
[12:30] <ubuntu_> please, how i can go in french room ?
[12:30] <asymmetry> relachs, windows? leave something? alone? what?
[12:30] <Angel_Dex> Seveas ok and after this i can replace my sources with my old one and remove us again and itll work?
[12:30] <relachs> :D
[12:30] <[DFC] EggMan> zF: cause uTorrent uses windows libarys to keep it small
[12:30] <soundray> theking_2100, you've got an English-language version of Windows, right?
[12:30] <dooglus> zF: it's not free software, it's freeware; there's a difference
[12:30] <rewt_> Whats best pr0g to burn cd's with. Like music cd's
[12:30] <nickrud> ubuntu_ /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:31] <theking_2100> no french
[12:31] <relachs> but, is there any change after i installed windows (and it overwrotes the MBR) to boot Ubuntu?
[12:31] <relachs> chance*
[12:31] <babyboy> serpentine REWT
[12:31] <metho> how do i configure repositiories right to using the apt-get upgrade command cos i can update the system atm,
[12:31] <zF> dooglus, what's the difference?
[12:31] <rewt_> thanks babyboy
[12:31] <ubuntu_> I want go to the french room please
[12:31] <babyboy> np
[12:31] <Angel_Dex> Seveas when did this remove the US thing apply?
[12:31] <soundray> theking_2100, do you know the French equivalent of the Windows "Program Files" directory?
[12:31] <Seveas> ubuntu_, type this: /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:31] <theking_2100> it's the same
[12:31] <asymmetry> relachs, yeah, you have to jerry-rig it from some other bootloader - you can probably do it from the ubuntu install disc, but ive never had to, so i dont know
[12:31] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, the us mirror is currently broken, it'll be fixed
[12:32] <ubuntu_> thank you
[12:32] <dooglus> zF: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software_%28disambiguation%29
[12:32] <soundray> theking_2100, okay. Did the 'cd' command work?
[12:32] <Angel_Dex> Seveas AH ok many thanks
[12:32] <zF> dooglus, thanks for the link. :)
[12:32] <nickrud> Angel_Dex: us is usually broken.
[12:32] <rukuartic> Hey guys... anyone know how to bring up a GUI app that got lost? Its still running, but somehow it got hidden and its not on the desktop any more.
[12:32] <martin> HOLA
[12:32] <Angel_Dex> nickrud so stay off it?
[12:32] <asymmetry> relachs, thing is, if you load lilo into the boot sector of your linux partition, instead of the drive's mbr, you can enter that long-ass command i showed you, and have the windows ntloader point to that - you can boot windows and ubuntu from within the windows boot loader.
[12:32] <Auci> Como esta
[12:32] <theking_2100> don't know now there is line only with >
[12:32] <metho> Seveas: could you please tell me how to configure repositires right so there are no problems updatng the system etc
[12:32] <martin> HOLA
[12:33] <dooglus> zF: basically, free software gives you freedom to use it, whereas freeware costs $0
[12:33] <rukuartic> !tell metho about repositories
[12:33] <martin> ALGUIEN ME PUEDE AYUDAR SOBRE COMO ACTUALIZAR A LA NUEVA VERSION EL AMSN
[12:33] <dooglus> zF: one is about freedom, the other about price.
[12:33] <soundray> theking_2100, you weren't supposed to enter the quote characters. Do a Ctrl-C, then do the cd command again.
[12:33] <Seveas> Marticus, drop the caps
[12:33] <Seveas> martin, drop the caps
[12:33] <Seveas> martin, and we speak english in here...
[12:33] <Angel_Dex> TT_TT i still get this error Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s).
[12:33] <Angel_Dex> Do you want to continue, ignoring these packages?
[12:33] <soundray> theking_2100, you can probably get it back with arrow-up and edit the line.
[12:33] <rewt_> ANyone have any luck with media readers?
[12:33] <relachs> how would i tell windows to modify the NTLOADER so it add's an entry for linux?
[12:33] <rewt_> I can't get mine working :(
[12:33] <asymmetry> rewt_, do you mean flash card readers?
[12:33] <martin> hola alguien me puede ayudar sobre como actualizar el amsn a la nueva version
[12:33] <rewt_> Yes.
[12:34] <rukuartic> Angel_Dex, What packages you trying to get?
[12:34] <rewt_> I have a 6+1 media reader
[12:34] <ubuntu_> there is a problem with french room i think, somebody can help me please? I have a big problem
[12:34] <asymmetry> rewt_, yeah, mine works just fine
[12:34] <Angel_Dex> rukuartic mostly K~ stuff
[12:34] <Angel_Dex> and Gxine
[12:34] <rewt_> Sd,ms/pro mmc, sm,xd
[12:34] <Angel_Dex> and stuff
[12:34] <rewt_> How did you get it working?
[12:34] <rukuartic> Angel_Dex, Common packages? Or stuff thats really hard to find
[12:34] <asymmetry> rewt_, the usual problem is that you dont have the scsi layer loaded in the kernel - thats pretty important, as linux uses scsi emulation for most external storage, and a lot of cd writers
[12:35] <ubuntu_> no body?
[12:35] <rewt_> asymmetry, so howdo I get it running?
[12:35] <[DFC] EggMan> ubuntu_: whats your problem?
[12:35] <theking_2100> i did  mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt
[12:35] <theking_2100>  then cd /mnt/Program\
[12:35] <metho> thx
[12:35] <Angel_Dex> rukuartic stuff thats in the Addapp interface like Kcolorpicker
[12:35] <angelo`>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[12:35] <rukuartic> Anyone know how to save an app that decided to hide itself?
[12:35] <nickrud> ubuntu_: type, where you just typed, /join #ubuntu-fr    : that's the french channel
[12:35] <Auci> Anyone here with nvidia cards ?
[12:35] <Angel_Dex> rukuartic i mean chooser
[12:36] <rukuartic> Angel_Dex, Are you using apt-get or synaptic?
[12:36] <william> i get this error after following the tutorial on how to add the multiverse/universe things
[12:36] <nickrud> rukuartic: um, what?
[12:36] <asymmetry> relachs, first of all, you save that file that was created from the sudo dd command into the base dir of your windows install - then you open up a hidden/read-only/system file in C:\ called boot.ini, and add this line: C:\linux.bin="Whatever name here" then save it, and set the system/ro/hidden bits back on the file
[12:36] <soundray> theking_2100, 'cd /mnt/Program\ Files' *everything* between the quote characters.
[12:36] <ubuntu_> oh it's okay now, I go give my problem there thank you
[12:36] <asymmetry> asymmetry, honestly, mine just autodetected and ran
[12:36] <nickrud> ubuntu_: best of luck
[12:36] <william> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[12:36] <rukuartic> nickrud, Heh... I was running GKRellM and it's dissapeared... but its still running.
[12:36] <Auci> PPL, how in gods name i install a driven on ubuntu.!
[12:36] <ubuntu_> nickrud thank you
[12:36] <Angel_Dex> rukuartic add applications and synaptic
[12:36] <nickrud> rukuartic: alt-tab, that may bring it back
[12:36] <rukuartic> Angel_Dex, Weird... What servers?
[12:37] <rewt_> asymmetry, any idea how to get mine working?
[12:37] <Seveas> william, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu* && sudo apt-get update
[12:37] <nickrud> rukuartic: maybe
[12:37] <ompaul> Auci, what is driver?
[12:37] <rukuartic> nickrud, Nope...
[12:37] <Angel_Dex> rukuartic Um? universe?
[12:37] <soundray> Auci, you're not making sense, except it's clear that you are swearing.
[12:37] <relachs> asymmetry, so basicly i need to install a bootloader on my linux partition first, right? If i do not do anything else realted to all this, nothing changes right?
[12:37] <nickrud> rukuartic: then, killall gkrellm, and restart it
[12:37] <rukuartic> nickrud, Rats. I wanted to keep it up :P
[12:37] <rewt_> is gkrellm better than gdesklets?
[12:37] <asymmetry> relachs, correct
[12:37] <theking_2100> root@ubuntu:~# mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt
[12:37] <theking_2100> root@ubuntu:~# cd /mnt/Program\
[12:37] <theking_2100> > cd /mnt/Program\ Files
[12:37] <theking_2100> -bash: cd: /mnt/Programcd: No such file or directory
[12:37] <theking_2100> root@ubuntu:~#
[12:37] <asymmetry> rewt_, first of all, does it show anything in dmesg?
[12:37] <Seveas> theking_2100, don't paste in here please
[12:37] <soundray> theking_2100, don't paste in here please.
[12:37] <ompaul> theking_2100, please use a pastebin
[12:38] <nickrud> rukuartic: I believe in drastic measures (I also use a hammer often when working on my car)
[12:38] <Seveas> soundray, whoah 
[12:38] <Auci> lol, ok ok, Im new to Ubuntu and I need to know how do I instaLL an Nvidia driver onto ubunto. ....
[12:38] <theking_2100> sorry
[12:38] <nickrud> rewt_: not necessarily, just usually
[12:38] <soundray> theking_2100, try again 'cd /mnt/Program\ Files' *everything* between the quote characters.
[12:38] <LiteHedded> my sound isn't working
[12:38] <asymmetry> gdesklets has major mem leakage problems
[12:38] <Seveas> soundray, if you quote, don't use a \
[12:38] <rewt_> does it look better?
[12:38] <relachs> asymmetry, C:\linux.bin="Whatever name here"? really linux.bin why this? is that the file that dd command showed me?
[12:39] <Angel_Dex> v_v
[12:39] <Seveas> soundray, -EDUMBASS, I didn't read good enough
[12:39] <theking_2100> ok it worked
[12:39] <rewt_> asymmetry, I dont know what to look for under dmesg
[12:39] <ompaul> !tell Auci about nvidia
[12:39] <asymmetry> relachs, sudo dd if=/dev/hda5 of=/media/floppy0/linux.bin bs=512 count=1 - See that part after 'of'?
[12:39] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  post your /etc/apt/sources.list  and the error you're getting to pastebin
[12:39] <angelo`> hey is there a way i can make ubuntu bootup into text mode and only go into the GUI if i tell it to
[12:39] <ompaul> Auci, there is a message from the bot read it, it gives full instructions for installing Nvidia
[12:39] <Seveas> angelo`, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:40] <bjornkri> Does anyone know of a random wallpaper thingy?
[12:40] <Angel_Dex> wastrel Um ok i shall
[12:40] <Angel_Dex> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[12:40] <angelo`> ok and then if i want to go into the GUI i just type startx right
[12:40] <Seveas> angelo`, yup
[12:40] <relachs> asymmetry, oh, that explains it :-P
[12:40] <angelo`> thank you
[12:40] <ompaul> Seveas, lart yourself that emessage is deprecated :)
[12:40] <soundray> theking_2100, enter 'ls -1'
[12:40] <rukuartic> Anyone know how to keep my settings in gkrellm?
[12:40] <piromana> can you have two clocks/applets set to different time zones, for ijstance if you often work wiht someone in a different zone?
[12:40] <Seveas> ompaul, ?
[12:40] <relachs> so i will copy the linux.bin to my c:\
[12:40] <rewt_> rukuartic, do you like gkrellm?
[12:40] <bjornkri> By that I mean a program that will change your wallpaper randomly after a set amount of time or every login and so on
[12:40] <relachs> can you help me installing a boot loader?
[12:41] <rukuartic> rewt_, Yep :P
[12:41] <Gorrth> does someone know which components are meant when doing acpi -V
[12:41] <rewt_> rukuartic, have you tried gDesklets?
[12:41] <soundray> theking_2100, does any of the lines you see contain "Atmel" or something other that corresponds to your Wifi card?
[12:41] <william> is there anyway to edit the settings in ubuntus default bittorrent clientg
[12:41] <LiteHedded> my audio was working fine but now it's not! can someone help?
[12:41] <asymmetry> relachs, ill explain the whole command do you
[12:41] <asymmetry> relachs, to you, sorry
[12:41] <rewt_> asymmetry, What should I look for i dmseg?
[12:41] <Jormundgand> william: the default bittorrent client is and always has been underfeatured - use bittornado.
[12:41] <rewt_> rukuartic, have you tried gDesklets?
[12:41] <rukuartic> rewt_, Nope... same general idea?
[12:41] <theking_2100> ok i understand the trick i see my windows program files
[12:42] <rewt_> rukuartic, Send me a ss of yours and I'll reply with a ss of mine....   rewt.axs@gmail.com
[12:42] <asymmetry> relachs, sudo dd if=/dev/hda5 of=/media/floppy0/linux.bin bs=512 count=1 - IF is InputFile. OF is outputfile. bs = block size. count = number of blocks. so youre telling it to read the first 512-byte block of /dev/hda5 - thats the boot sector of that partition
[12:42] <rukuartic> rewt_, Not quite sure what a ss is.
[12:42] <rewt_> rukuartic, screen shot
[12:42] <asymmetry> rewt_, gimme a sec on that one...
[12:42] <rewt_> rukuartic, aka "print screen" button?
[12:42] <rukuartic> rewt_, http://halflight.hopto.org/ There it is, on the front page.
[12:42] <theking_2100> i see my invetel folder
[12:42] <CaNsA> when using the gimp image editor, how can i get the layer list to show?
[12:42] <CaNsA> i cant find it
[12:43] <amphi> CaNsA: ctrl-l
[12:43] <CaNsA> cheers
[12:43] <asymmetry> rewt_, anything related to the usb-storage module.
[12:43] <rewt_> asymmetry, okay
[12:43] <CaNsA> thx amphi
[12:43] <william> ok i apt-get'd bittornado and it went through but how do i open it
[12:43] <amphi> CaNsA: you can drag it to below the toolbox if you want it everpresent
[12:43] <relachs> asymmetry, cool, was confused about the syntax (i do some java) :P
[12:43] <theking_2100> soundray i use cd t enter the folder
[12:43] <amphi> wastrel: you about?
[12:44] <Silivrenion> i need help
[12:44] <Silivrenion> this command isnt working
[12:44] <wastrel> hi amphi
[12:44] <Silivrenion> apt-get install linux-386
[12:44] <rewt_> rukuartic, what's halflight?
[12:44] <relachs> asymmetry, but before i need to install the bootloader no?
[12:44] <soundray> theking_2100, do a 'ls' now
[12:44] <wastrel> william:  try typing bittornado in the terminal?
[12:44] <Seveas> Silivrenion, do you get 'Size Mismatch'?
[12:44] <Silivrenion> Couldnt find package
[12:44] <soundray> theking_2100, do you see many entries or just one?
[12:44] <william> i tried
[12:44] <asymmetry> relachs, yes, you do
[12:44] <asymmetry> relachs, you use lilo, right?
[12:44] <rewt_> rukuartic, what's your email? I'll send you a ss of my gDesklets :)
[12:44] <william> says command not found
[12:44] <Seveas> Silivrenion, put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[12:44] <theking_2100> soundray there are  2 files
[12:45] <wastrel> william:  bummer :]     how about bit<tab><tab>    (i lurve tab complete)
[12:45] <amphi> evenin, wastrel - just wondering if you tried the ipw2200-ap driver yet... I messed with a little, and it seemed to break ad-hoc mode for me, although the card appeared to switch to ad-hoc mode
[12:45] <theking_2100> uninstall.exe and uninstall.key
[12:45] <soundray> theking_2100, is it a .sys and a .inf?
[12:45] <eggman> !sata
[12:45] <ubotu> eggman: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:45] <theking_2100> no
[12:45] <eggman> !serial ATA
[12:45] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eggman
[12:45] <relachs> asymmetry, i do not know..
[12:45] <Angel_Dex> wastrel @.@ Weirdness i just replaced my sources list with me old one (i did this once befor with no luck same probs) And i just installed 2 proggys fine @.@ What coulda been the problem?
[12:45] <wastrel> amphi:  no i'm not likely to be messing with it until the semester's over
[12:45] <william> haha didnt woork, only bitmap came up
[12:46] <relachs> asymmetry, didnt the thing i can select the os to start is in MBR
[12:46] <theking_2100> but in windows, drivers are in the systeme 32 isn't it?
[12:46] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  the sources.list you were using had some sort of errors in it i imagine
[12:46] <asymmetry> relachs, reboot your system - it should say if its grub or lilo
[12:46] <wastrel> william:  try with a capital b?
[12:46] <soundray> theking_2100, my Wifi drivers were under Program\ Files
[12:46] <ompaul> eggman, what is on your mind?
[12:46] <Angel_Dex> wastrel but i did this 2 times with now luck and i do it once more and luck? why so?
[12:46] <Silivrenion> theres only one entry Seveas, and that is "deb http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu warty main
[12:46] <lampshade> ummm, is there a media player that doesn't instantly crash on a fresh install of Ubuntu?  I'm kinda surprised by this.  Both Totem, and then mplayer which I installed after totem kept dying, can't play anything without locking up
[12:47] <william> nope
[12:47] <martin> HOLA A TODOS ALGUIEN QUE HABLE EN ESPAOL?
[12:47] <IdleOne> theking_2100:  quicker you stop thinking about how windows does things the quicker you will be happy you left windows ()
[12:47] <ompaul> !es
[12:47] <lampshade> well totem doesn't even try,  it just errors out.  Mplayer tries and then dies
[12:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:47] <theking_2100> what is the command to go up in the folder
[12:47] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  heh i don't know - maybe there was a network problem between you & the repo and it got fixed...
[12:47] <martin> thanks
[12:47] <Seveas> martin, #ubuntu-es
[12:47] <IdleOne> theking_2100:  cd ..
[12:47] <soundray> theking_2100, it might be that you have to look in system32, but I've no idea how we'd identify which ones are the ones for your Wifi.
[12:47] <asymmetry> theking_2100, what kinda wifi you got?
[12:47] <Seveas> Silivrenion, you are running a version that will soon be unsupported, and you are missing 80% of the software
[12:48] <Angel_Dex> wastrel ahh a internet burp XP
[12:48] <Silivrenion> Seveas, I am doing an install through a tutorial on the knoppix site :: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix
[12:48] <Seveas> Silivrenion, if you are installing NOW, install breezy
[12:48] <Silivrenion> ...
[12:48] <bosco> what is the command to find out how much hard drive space i have left   I know that                acpi-t                        tells me how much battery i have left plus the temp
[12:48] <babyboy> how do i edit the sources.list? and add new line??
[12:48] <sorush20> I wana be able to use xorg 6.9.0 are there any bineries?
[12:48] <relachs> ok
[12:49] <soundray> bosco, df
[12:49] <wastrel> bosco:  df -h
[12:49] <Silivrenion> I'm halfway through this installation, and I dont know what i'd have to change
[12:49] <Angel_Dex> wastrel ive been having so many major problems this week TT_TT Including gettinga  bad block on a new 120gig
[12:49] <Seveas> Silivrenion, that page if VERY outdated
[12:49] <Silivrenion> seveas, its the only option i have for installation
[12:49] <bosco> soundray,  what is the command to tell me how much hard drive space i have left
[12:49] <slvmchn> what's the default cd burner for ubuntu?
[12:49] <ompaul> Silivrenion, complete it and we will get you up to date a lot faster
[12:49] <soundray> bosco, df
[12:49] <Seveas> Silivrenion, why?
[12:49] <slvmchn> not audio cd's, but data (mp3) cds
[12:49] <babyboy> cd burner serpentine
[12:49] <theking_2100> asymmetry i'v got a invetel 11B
[12:49] <slvmchn> thx baby
[12:49] <Angel_Dex> Seveas many thanks for the help you always give me
[12:49] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm using the diveintopython to try and learn a bit, but it mentions "IDE" and I can't easily find what they mean by that. any ideas?
[12:50] <asymmetry> theking_2100, never heard of it... sorry
[12:50] <Silivrenion> seveas, floppy controller broken, and for some reason every linux distro, except knoppix-std isnt supported as a bootable cd by my computer
[12:50] <martin> HOLA
[12:50] <martin> hola a todos
[12:50] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, you're welcome
[12:50] <theking_2100> i just have a look through my window hdd
[12:50] <wastrel> sexcopter8000m:  IDE = integrated development environment.  a nice editor/compiler/debugger thingy for programmers
[12:50] <Seveas> martin, #ubuntu-es for spanish...
[12:50] <ompaul> Silivrenion, what machine have you got?
[12:50] <martin> no puedo entrar
[12:50] <carpediem-sk> anyone know why automake always gives me errors about "does not support being defined conditionally"?
[12:50] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: its a supermicro P6DNF server with dual pentium pro 200 MHz
[12:50] <theking_2100> i should find what kind of file? .inf .sys or .drv
[12:51] <sexcopter8000m> wastrel, thanks, so is that a generic term or a specific example?
[12:51] <JLTorrente> martin, escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[12:51] <wastrel> generic
[12:51] <soundray> theking_2100, hold on, I have another idea...
[12:51] <Silivrenion> seveas :: is there any way you can point me to resources similar to that walkthrough, but correct?
[12:51] <pilen> any linux gamers here?
[12:51] <sexcopter8000m> ok, cheers
[12:51] <rend> anyone get photoshop running in linux?
[12:52] <soundray> theking_2100, run 'find /mnt/Program\ Files -name *.inf | grep -i atmel' and tell me if it generates any output.
[12:52] <thenuke> tried wine rend?
[12:52] <rend> vmware wont run... gives me a blue screen when trying to start xp
[12:52] <martin> ya lo hice y me manda que necesito to be a chanel operator to do that
[12:52] <rend> thenuke, not yet
[12:52] <thenuke> rend: or google photoshop ubuntu/linux ?
[12:52] <rend> thenuke, have you?
[12:52] <pilen> rend: try with wine
[12:52] <thenuke> rend: no?
[12:52] <rend> !wine
[12:52] <thenuke> rend: my point was not that I should google it for you.
[12:52] <IdleOne> martin escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[12:53] <Seveas> Silivrenion, poke me in 15 minutes 
[12:53] <Silivrenion> ok, thanks
[12:53] <rend> thenuke, you answered my question with another question, that wasnt what i was looking for.
[12:53] <thenuke> rend: laugh.
[12:53] <ompaul> Silivrenion, how much ram is in that?
[12:53] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: 155 MB
[12:53] <thenuke> rend: it was kind of an answer still :D
[12:53] <Silivrenion> Anyone :: how do I unmount a mounted partition?
[12:53] <ompaul> Silivrenion, ram with video card?
[12:53] <thenuke> rend: since about 70-90% of ppl does not google before asking irc
[12:54] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: seperate video card
[12:54] <wastrel> Silivrenion:  umount
[12:54] <theking_2100> soundray it's not possible to explor my driver cd and copy the .inf and .sys on the desktop,
[12:54] <Silivrenion> ty wastrel
[12:54] <theking_2100> ?
[12:54] <ompaul> Silivrenion, umount /name/mountedpartition
[12:54] <thenuke> rend: aaaaand if I had googled it before, I might me able to tell what I found out :)
[12:54] <ompaul> Silivrenion, sudo umount /name/mountedpartition (sorry left out the sudo)
[12:54] <rewt_> asymmetry, any luck?
[12:54] <Gadi> has anyone else here had problems deboostrapping breezy today?
[12:54] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: says device is busy, but its not
[12:55] <soundray> theking_2100, it is a possibility. On your driver CD, the files will be compressed in a cab file, though.
[12:55] <asymmetry> rewt_, usually most media readers are mounted as a usb storage device... so look for anything related to usb-storage in your dmesg log.
[12:55] <ompaul> Silivrenion, what is the name of it ?
[12:55] <soundray> theking_2100, you have to install the cabextract package to extract them.
[12:55] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: /dev/sda2
[12:55] <IdleOne> martin:  estas aqui?
[12:56] <soundray> theking_2100, well, maybe they are uncompressed on your CD. It's worth a look.
[12:56] <JLTorrente> martin no responde
[12:56] <ompaul> Silivrenion, no what is it mounted as - do this df and tell us the name of it on the right
[12:56] <rewt_> asymmetry, I dont see anything
[12:56] <asymmetry> rewt_, anything with scsi-*?
[12:56] <rewt_> scsi?
[12:56] <Silivrenion> . /mnt/ubuntu
[12:56] <asymmetry> yeah - media readers are mounted via scsi emulation a lot of time, most usb storage devices are
[12:56] <kent_> Anyone here know anything about the nvidia drivers?
[12:57] <IdleOne> !nvidia
[12:57] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:57] <rewt_> well i dont see anything
[12:57] <theking_2100> i found the driver and i copied the file on the desktop : i got 4file.sys and 2 file .inf
[12:57] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: /mnt/ubuntu
[12:57] <kent_> Yeah, I installed it and it worked until I restart. lots of fun
[12:57] <ompaul> Silivrenion, something has a path open to it - so you may have a terminal open and it could be there
[12:57] <CaNsA> amphi another q
[12:57] <CaNsA> where is the color replacer?
[12:57] <asymmetry> kent_, put it in your modules conf file?
[12:58] <wastrel> what's a color replacer?
[12:58] <kent_> Asymmetry, you mean xorg.conf?
[12:58] <CaNsA> in the gimp - image editor
[12:58] <soundray> theking_2100, okay. In the terminal, change to your desktop directory: 'cd /home/theking/Desktop'
[12:58] <ompaul> Silivrenion, does that make sense?
[12:58] <soundray> theking_2100, got it?
[12:58] <asymmetry> kent_, no. if its a binary driver, its loaded as a module - you have to tell it to load that module each time it boots, so you can add it to whatever boot file you want
[12:58] <asymmetry> kent_, used to have to do that with my sound card
[12:58] <wastrel> CaNsA:  image-> colors iirc
[12:58] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: theres nothing open with that... i'll restart the machine
[12:59] <relachs> asymmetry, GNU GRUB :-)
[12:59] <CaNsA> ?
[12:59] <theking_2100> ok
[12:59] <asymmetry> relachs, grub is a little less successful with this trick - tends to hang as soon as the grub loader boots up
[12:59] <kent_> Asymmetry, OK. I see what you mean.
[12:59] <ompaul> Silivrenion, something has it open
[12:59] <wastrel> heh CaNsA sry i don't use grub much.  tools-> color tools  dialogs->color picker ?
[12:59] <wastrel> er ,colormap
[01:00] <relachs> asymetry, but it doesnt matter? i mean grub is on MBR right now which gets overwriotten anyway...
[01:00] <relachs> so
[01:00] <theking_2100> soundray yes got it
[01:00] <asymmetry> relachs, if you wanna try it, we can
[01:00] <soundray> theking_2100, now run 'ndiswrapper -i file.inf'. Replace "file" with one of the two actual filenames.
[01:00] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: there were no active processes with it open... I just restarted the machine
[01:00] <ompaul> Silivrenion, something had it open lsof would have found it for you
[01:00] <kent_> Asymmetry, what do I need to type to load the module?
[01:00] <Angel_Dex> !firefox1.5
[01:00] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:00] <relachs> asymmetry, err, that's makes me thinking, why did you want to know what i have on MBR anyway grub or lilo? Oo i mean that gets overwritten anyway?
[01:00] <asymmetry> kent_, well, you said that it worked until you rebooted?
[01:01] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, ping
[01:01] <sagarp> does Xgl/compiz on dapper right now support dual-screens?
[01:01] <LiteHedded> I need help getting my audio working!!
[01:01] <asymmetry> relachs, that way i can tell you what to do to install the loader on the partition instead of the mbr
[01:01] <LiteHedded> it was working fine but now it's not!
[01:01] <kent_> Asymmetry, yep. Thats right.
[01:01] <asymmetry> relachs, the two programs work VERY differently
[01:01] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, are you using breezy or dapper?
[01:01] <pilen> how to mount the cd drive?
[01:01] <asymmetry> kent_, well, what do you do to get it to work before you reboot?
[01:01] <relachs> asymmetry, i see
[01:01] <ompaul> Silivrenion, a program called lsof piped through grep would have found what had it open
[01:02] <Silivrenion> k
[01:02] <kent_> Asymmetry, I reinstall the drivers
[01:02] <LiteHedded> Seveas you've been a great help before. perhaps you can help me with my audio?
[01:02] <relachs> asymmetry, let's start, get's late here :D
[01:02] <ompaul> Silivrenion,  lsof | grep ubuntu would have found it for you
[01:02] <Silivrenion> ompaul :: alright, i'll use that next time
[01:02] <asymmetry> kent_, yeah, thats not good... you know what, kent_ and relachs, do you two have AIM or something?
[01:02] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  cat /dev/dsp
[01:03] <Angel_Dex> Seveas breezy why?
[01:03] <LiteHedded> wastrel: not giving me anything
[01:03] <rockyburt> hm, installing dapper drake it picked up my wireless and configured it as eth1, problem is that the module it loads is bad and won't work -- but i can't seem to find the configuration for eth1 anyplace -- where can i configure this?
[01:03] <LiteHedded> nm
[01:03] <relachs> i have icq, why?
[01:03] <LiteHedded> cat: /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[01:03] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  ok.  what sound card & driver are you using?
[01:03] <asymmetry> relachs, because im losing you and kent in the chat
[01:04] <ompaul> Silivrenion, with good hardware you can get long times between reboots and if there is a bigenough firewall or zero networking machine controlled it could be up for years
[01:04] <LiteHedded> it's an intel card. builtin on my laptop
[01:04] <kent_> Asymmetry, yeah I have aim. "pinballwizard007"
[01:04] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  lspci | grep -i audio
[01:04] <LiteHedded> driver is whatever kubuntu installed by default
[01:04] <soundray> theking_2100, is it working?
[01:04] <relachs> asymmetry, hear dof priv channel?
[01:04] <LiteHedded> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:04] <B_166-ER-X> can someone tell me how to mount an ipod on breezy ?
[01:04] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, someone is trying to pinpoint the errors
[01:04] <hyperactivecrond> lmao XGL is awesome!
[01:04] <hyperactivecrond> BUT
[01:04] <hyperactivecrond> i can't start GNOME ordinarily
[01:04] <hyperactivecrond> i have to go into failsafe
[01:04] <ompaul> hyperactivecrond, but dapper  is in #ubuntu+1
[01:05] <hyperactivecrond> ompaul: fine
[01:05] <ompaul> :)
[01:05] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  lsmod | grep snd   - don't paste in here if multpile lines ;] 
[01:05] <Angel_Dex> Seveas Ok meaning? ><
[01:05] <LiteHedded> wastrel what do you need from it?
[01:05] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, that it could be solved soon 
[01:05] <asymmetry> relachs, give me asec on that one
[01:05] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  did you get any output?
[01:05] <LiteHedded> yes
[01:05] <theking_2100> soundray it intalled one of the file
[01:05] <ianw_> I am trying to install eclipse-source, and it gives me a size mismatch error: "Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lucene/liblucene-java_1.4.3-5ubuntu1_all.deb  Size mismatch
[01:05] <ianw_> "   What can I do about this?
[01:05] <CaNsA> where is the color replacer?
[01:05] <CaNsA> in the gimp - image editor
[01:06] <ianw_> hmm, that sucked. hehe
[01:06] <timmay> is there a way to force my monitor into a higher resolution with a better refresh rate???? i could make it do 1280x1024 @85hz when i used to use windows, and now in 1280 the best in breezy is 60hz
[01:06] <Angel_Dex> Seveas ah ok? but my problem solved itself somhow already?
[01:06] <wastrel> CaNsA:  those menus didn't have what you needed?
[01:06] <soundray> theking_2100, have you checked it with 'ndiswrapper -l'?
[01:06] <rewt_> asymmetry, so I'm guessing I'm out of luck on my media reader?
[01:06] <CaNsA> npe
[01:06] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  put it on pastebin
[01:06] <asymmetry> rewt_, not sure what to do with it, sorry
[01:06] <CaNsA> nope*
[01:06] <LiteHedded> link?
[01:06] <relachs> asymetry, uhm u know what, i will just install win now and then get it to work anyhow lol
[01:06] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:07] <ompaul> !resolution
[01:07] <ubotu> resolution is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:07] <ompaul> timmay ^^^^
[01:07] <relachs> brb
[01:07] <LiteHedded> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9081
[01:07] <wastrel> CaNsA:  how about double-clicking on the color under the tool buttons?
[01:08] <theking_2100> it says driver available (i translated from french)
[01:08] <carpediem-sk> quit
[01:08] <IdleOne> 04333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333,-*+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++//////////////////////////////666666633333377/82 70
[01:08] <CaNsA> tried it
[01:08] <IdleOne> +
[01:08] <IdleOne> .02. .0
[01:08] <LiteHedded> wastrel: did you get that?
[01:08] <theking_2100> soundray it says driver available (i translated from french)
[01:08] <Karko> i need help with installing ubuntu 5.10
[01:09] <Karko> i came up with a problem
[01:09] <timmay> ompaul, thanks!  I think I've gone through all of that already without nailing it down tho.. :/
[01:09] <Karko> i have tried to find answer but of no help
[01:09] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  yes just looking @ stuff
[01:09] <soundray> theking_2100, great. Can you see a new interface in System-Admin-Network?
[01:09] <LiteHedded> ok thanks!
[01:09] <ompaul> timmay, you are using 5.10?
[01:09] <timmay> yep
[01:09] <timmay> Linux sempy 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Mon Feb 13 12:13:15 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:10] <timmay> whoops
[01:10] <Seveas> IdleOne, cat on the keyboard?
[01:10] <Angel_Dex> Seveas meep? im sorry did i not say it fixed itself? many apologys
[01:10] <Karko> after this screen ( http://www.ubuntu-fi.org/images/ubuntu5.10-asennus/ubuntu5.10-asennus27.png ) comes the part where you install packages, at xserver-xorg the screen flashes few times, after the "installing packages" is done it goes to a screen where it says loading GNOME i guess, after that it goes into a black screen and the computer freezes. if i restart it freezes after the darkbrown ubuntulogo screen with OK things
[01:10] <ompaul> timmay, actually you have given me an idea, was it only when you upgraded your kernel did you start having those issues with your box?
[01:10] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  system->preferences->sound, do you have sound server enabled?
[01:11] <Billy> hey.. does anyone know how I would be able to install respositories without a connection to the net... ie build-essentials?
[01:11] <Angel_Dex> Seveas i switched back to my old list for the 10th time and it just worked all of a sudden
[01:11] <LiteHedded> where is system>preferences
[01:11] <LiteHedded> I'm in kde btw
[01:11] <Seveas> ok
[01:11] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, thanks
[01:11] <timmay> ompaul, no actually.. i haven't been able to get 1280x1024 at anything higher than 60hz since i intially installed a few months ago
[01:11] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  nvm kde doesn't have that i don't think...
[01:11] <soundray> theking_2100, what's going on? Are you happy?
[01:11] <thingfish> so how's ubuntu working for you guys?  is it buggy?
[01:11] <timmay> ompaul,  i lived with a lower resolution for a while, but now i want that desktop space back without my eyes watering
[01:11] <Angel_Dex> Seveas Sorry again who was working on the problem?
[01:12] <ompaul> timmay, well you need to take those steps again as on that page since you did the upgrade
[01:12] <badri_> karko: what happens if you do ctrl+alt+f11 after the "freeze"?
[01:12] <soundray> thingfish, never had a more stable, predictable system.
[01:12] <Karko> badn wait a sec, ill try
[01:12] <InnerF|RE> can someone help me with my resolv.conf?
[01:12] <theking_2100> soundray
[01:12] <Billy> hey.. does anyone know how I would be able to install respositories without a connection to the net... ie build-essentials? anyone? pleaaaaase?
[01:12] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, the archive maintainer
[01:12] <theking_2100> soundray bad news...
[01:12] <thingfish> soundray: hehe I bet you have never installed Debian sarge.
[01:12] <asymmetry> soundray, kubuntu blew up on me... but ubuntu is running great
[01:12] <timmay> i did a bunch of tricks from different sites and it helped me get more refresh rates in the other resolutions..
[01:12] <badri_> karko: ctrl+alt+f1 (not f11) sorry
[01:12] <theking_2100> soundray it doesn't appears
[01:12] <soundray> thingfish, many times. It wasn't stable then, though...
[01:13] <Angel_Dex> Seveas wow You went that high? @.@ for little old me? im flatterd lol
[01:13] <Karko> kk, a sec
[01:13] <timmay> ompaul, k.. i'll try that then.. thanks
[01:13] <soundray> theking_2100, no worries...
[01:13] <theking_2100> but at least i understood how i should do
[01:13] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, you're not the only one with errors unfortunately
[01:13] <LiteHedded> anyone have any ideas?
[01:13] <x2kx> what is metacity and how can i use it?
[01:13] <x2kx> i want to use some themes for it
[01:13] <soundray> theking_2100, did you go on following that howto-webpage?
[01:13] <ompaul> timmay, well you have more "compute" time under your belt now it should be easier :)
[01:13] <piromana> is there a way to dock an applet in the panel?
[01:14] <Billy> people, say i dont have an internet connection, is there anyway to download speciific packages from ubuntu?
[01:14] <Billy> to install?
[01:14] <Angel_Dex> Seveas ah so this has happened many times the same thing>? Thats sad i hope it gets fixed soon it was really aggervating then even more so that it fixed itself tho a relief none the less
[01:14] <Karko> badri_: nothing
[01:14] <Karko> the computer totally freezes
[01:14] <Karko> all i can do is restart thru powerplug
[01:14] <pete_> hmm my printer seems to be stuck
[01:14] <InnerF|RE> can someone help me with my resolv.conf?
[01:14] <pete_> how do i cancel all jobs
[01:14] <theking_2100> soundray i will directly find the driver on windows put it in my usb key then load it like we did
[01:14] <timmay> ompaul, i was hoping it would be easy from the start haha.. i'm by no means a stranger to text CLI's and config files :)
[01:14] <badri_> karko: so the problem is not just x-server misconfiguration..
[01:14] <soundray> theking_2100, no, the driver is okay, I think.
[01:15] <soundray> theking_2100, did you run modprobe ndiswrapper?
[01:15] <timmay> i just deal with so much technology at work these days, i don't even use this pc at home very often anymore
[01:15] <Seveas> Angel_Dex, you were trying to install gxine, right?
[01:15] <Billy> is htere a package manager which i can downlaod on cd for ubuntu
[01:15] <theking_2100> soundray no i don't know what is it
[01:15] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  what does aplay -l   give you?
[01:15] <badri_> karko: does the live cd work for you?
[01:15] <soundray> theking_2100, you still have the # prompt, correct?
[01:16] <badri_> karko: or do you have a knoppix cd with you?
[01:16] <lambros> hello
[01:16] <lnx_> how do you make an application automatically start when you log in?
[01:16] <Karko> badri_ the problem comes in the part where you first install the ubuntu itself, then its done and you need to take off the cd, boot and it starts to install packages, after installing packages it tries/does load gnome and then comes this black screen
[01:16] <theking_2100> soundray yes
[01:16] <soundray> lnx_, are you on dapper yet?
[01:16] <jepler> Hi.  I'm running breezy.  I get an error when I try to install python2.4-numarray.  Can anyone help me out?   apt-get says this: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.4/libg2c0_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[01:16] <lnx_> soundray: yes
[01:16] <nickrud> lnx_, System-Preferences->Sessions, add them to the startup tab
[01:16] <timmay> lnx: in the sessions area under preferences
[01:16] <soundray> theking_2100, enter 'modprobe ndiswrapper'
[01:16] <Karko> badri_ no i only have ubuntu 5.10 i386 cd with me
[01:16] <Seveas> jepler, please wait and try later, known problem and we're working on it
[01:16] <B_166-ER-X> can someone tell me how to mount an ipod on breezy ? please .
[01:16] <soundray> lnx_, well done!
[01:16] <jepler> Seveas: OK, thanks
[01:17] <soundray> lnx_, check out System-Preferences-Sessions
[01:17] <nickrud> soundray, beat you :)
[01:17] <theking_2100> soundray ok
[01:17] <fangorious> is there a trick to getting the espresso installer to use LVM partitions for the root partition?
[01:17] <lnx_> soundray: thx, dapper installed good, just stopped my gdesklets from starting, but didnt fix the fan unfortunately
[01:17] <badri_> can you try pressing ctrl+c when it says "Starting GNOME".
[01:17] <lambros> can anyone explain how to "register a nickname"?  The online instructions make no sense :-)  They talk about typing "/msg nickserv ..." but I haven't a clue what it's about.
[01:17] <InnerF|RE> ah this is pointless
[01:17] <timmay> lnx: my gdesklets takes a crap on me every once and a while to the point where i have to reinstall to get it running right again
[01:17] <badri_> karko: can you try pressing ctrl+c when it says "Starting GNOME".
[01:17] <soundray> nickrud, argh!
[01:17] <Billy> ./msg nickserv emailaddress password
[01:17] <eldad_> hallo! How do I get a laptop to SUSPEND2RAM by itself after a defenite IDL time?
[01:17] <soundray> :)
[01:18] <Karko> it only said starting gnome once, after the package installation
[01:18] <badri_> karko: I am not sure if you can time it right
[01:18] <Seveas> jepler, if you could try in 30 minutes and report whether there are still problems I'd be very grateful
[01:18] <soundray> theking_2100, now check the Network dialog again.
[01:18] <nickrud> soundray, I'll take even a meaningless win today ;(
[01:18] <jepler> Seveas: OK, I'll probably try again sometime in the next 2 hours.
[01:18] <Karko> badri_ after reboot it goes to the black screen after the darkbrown ubuntulogo screen with loading stuff and saying OK, it only mentioned gnome during the package installation thingy
[01:18] <Fujitsu> The mirrors really seem to be having problems lately.
[01:18] <Seveas> eldad_, that will be possible in dapper
[01:18] <badri_> karko: Does it freeze when it says "Initializing modules"?
[01:19] <Karko> badri_ no
[01:19] <soundray> lnx_, that's annoying. I guess it's a kernelcompile next, then...
[01:19] <Seveas> Fujitsu, someone is working hard as we speak to find and solve the problem
[01:19] <Fujitsu> Good.
[01:19] <Zanza> Can anyone tell me what provides iwlib.h?
[01:19] <eldad_> Seveas: impossible at the moment?!
[01:19] <Fujitsu> I got it working, however...
[01:19] <Karko> badri_ only it freezes when the black screen and it crashes thewhole comp
[01:19] <soundray> Zanza, libiw-dev
[01:19] <theking_2100> soundray still nothing
[01:19] <badri_> karko: Do you remember the last message with "OK" that it says before it freezes?
[01:19] <LiteHedded> someone please help with my audio
[01:19] <Seveas> eldad_, it's most likely possible but involves editing files and knowing a few magic incantations
[01:19] <jepler> Zanza: apt-file search can provide the answer to questions like that.
[01:19] <Karko> nope its so quick
[01:19] <lnx_> i'm not sure, i'm gonna research the bios a bit
[01:20] <badri_> karko: what is your computer make? specs?
[01:20] <fangorious> eldad_: you can set it to suspend at a certain battery % using gnome-power-manager
[01:20] <Zanza> Thanks, jepler, I thought I had tried.
[01:20] <shingoki> I'm sure I used to be able to install realplayer just from a package, but now I have something that prompts me to install a nonexistent rpm file
[01:20] <Zanza> And thanks for the answer, soundray
[01:20] <Karko> badri_ its an 866mhz intel pentium III with 512mb sdram and voodoo3 graphics driver
[01:20] <LiteHedded> someone please help with my audio
[01:21] <jepler> Zanza: I saw that you'd already gotten an answer, but I wanted to make sure you knew about apt-file.
[01:21] <fangorious> eldad_: actually it looks like you can have it sleep after an idle time in gnome-power-manager as well as a battery charge level
[01:21] <soundray> theking_2100, when you translated "driver available", did it say something like "hardware present" as well?
[01:21] <jcole> i'm having a hell of a time trying to make pdfs from gnome or cups... is ubuntu breezy broke?
[01:21] <eldad_> Seveas, fangorious : can you explain? I have the suspend working with the sleep button, and it seems to suspend under the...
[01:21] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  what does aplay -l   give you?
[01:21] <theking_2100> soundray only my file name present
[01:21] <furiouslettuce> does anybody know how to specify a desktop for an app to startup on?
[01:21] <fangorious> eldad_: do you have gnome-power-manager installed (not the battery monitor applet)
[01:21] <Zanza> jepler, just a little frustrated trying to get xsupplicant working with leap authentication.
[01:21] <furiouslettuce> i want to start a script in bash but i want it on my second desktop
[01:22] <furiouslettuce> [workspace] 
[01:22] <soundray> theking_2100, you may have to unplug the Wifi and plug it back in.
[01:22] <fangorious> does dapper not support installing to an LVM partition mounted to / ?
[01:22] <LiteHedded> card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5] , device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH5]  Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[01:22] <LiteHedded> card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5] , device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH5 - IEC958]  Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[01:22] <wastrel> furiouslettuce:  --display <display>
[01:22] <furiouslettuce> thanks wastrel :)
[01:22] <wastrel> furiouslettuce:  er, that should work for X apps, not sure about bash stuff
[01:22] <bipolar> has anyone gotten the ATI driver to work in dapper?
[01:23] <Seveas> jepler, can you please apt-get update and retry - it should be fixed
[01:23] <wastrel> furiouslettuce:  er, that is for dual monitor... not virtual desktops
[01:23] <theking_2100> soundray it changes absolutly nothing
[01:23] <fangorious> bipolar: works for me using mlomker's howto
[01:23] <bipolar> fangorious, got a link to the howto? :)
[01:23] <fangorious> bipoler v 8.22.5 in both breezy and dapper
[01:23] <wastrel> hmm i was useless ;] 
[01:23] <bipolar> hmmm.....
[01:24] <LiteHedded> man ubuntu just gives me one headache after another
[01:24] <eldad_> Seveas, fangorious : I can suspend using the command "sudo pmi action suspend" but this requires a password (which I gues can be given when I away. I used to have the Gnome-power-manager only it didn't suspend even though I belive it was configured correctly (I would obviously appreciate your input)
[01:24] <furiouslettuce> yeah wastrel :)
[01:24] <furiouslettuce> just got that
[01:24] <furiouslettuce> npp
[01:24] <furiouslettuce> *np
[01:24] <fangorious> bipolar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[01:24] <furiouslettuce> thanks anyways
[01:24] <theking_2100> should i do 'ndiswrapper -l' again?
[01:24] <pdc303> what do I need to do to get mp3 playback? Rhythmbox is still saying "not an audio stream"
[01:24] <wastrel> furiouslettuce:  someone was asking about the 2nd monitor thing yesterday :] 
[01:24] <badri_> karko: hold on, let me check
[01:25] <bimberi> ubotu tell pdc303 about mp3
[01:25] <Karko> ok
[01:25] <LiteHedded> wastrel any other ideas?
[01:25] <jepler> Seveas: I ran this command, and got the same error:  $ sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y install python2.4-numarray
[01:25] <jepler> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.4/libg2c0_3.4.4-6ubuntu8_i386.deb  Size mismatch
[01:25] <jerware> fellaz
[01:25] <soundray> theking_2100, yes
[01:25] <jerware> why would sudo exept my root password but not su or su -    ?
[01:25] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  i dunno looks like your chipset is recognized but not your card...  don't know where to go from here sry
[01:25] <fangorious> eldad_: if i right-click on the gnome-power-manager notification area icon and select Preferences, there is a slider labeled "Put computer to sleep after"
[01:26] <LiteHedded> Seveas you wanna take a crack at it? :)
[01:26] <LiteHedded> it was working right after install
[01:26] <Seveas> jepler, the us. mirror may still be broken, try archive.ubuntu.com
[01:26] <fangorious> eldad_: I've never used it. I can say that gnome-power-manager in dapper is much better than what's in breezy
[01:26] <fangorious> eldad_: i've never used that setting, I use gnome-power-manager though
[01:26] <jepler> Seveas: by changing sources.list, or in some other way?
[01:26] <timmay> is dapper stable enough to switch to from breezy at this point??
[01:26] <theking_2100> soundray still the 2 files present
[01:26] <furiouslettuce> wastrel - it's just screen instead of display :)
[01:27] <wastrel> furiouslettuce:  good to know
[01:27] <_keroppi_> Am I going to come across complications for installing xgl if I installed ubuntu hoary, then upgraded to dapper using my sources.list?
[01:27] <Seveas> jepler, by changing sources.list
[01:27] <bimberi> !dapper
[01:27] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[01:27] <fangorious> timmay: no easy answer to that. it depends on your hardware
[01:27] <pdc303> bimberi: I installed gstreamer0.8-mad and Rhythmbox still doesn't read mp3s
[01:27] <_keroppi_> timmay: I'm running it now, you can run into all sorts of problem.s
[01:27] <theking_2100> soundray i will try with windows driver
[01:27] <fangorious> timmay: and unless someone here has the exact same hardware set, nobody will be able to predict how you will fare with any certainty
[01:27] <eldad_> fangorious: I didn't understand - what do u use for auto suspending. I have the menu you mentioned only it never worked for me!
[01:27] <theking_2100> i'm going to sleep now
[01:28] <timmay> ahh k... i was kind of considering it..
[01:28] <bimberi> pdc303: hm, usually works, do you get an error message you can google?
[01:28] <fangorious> eldad_: i don't have it suspend after x minutes. I have it hibernate at 5% battery, and that works
[01:28] <timmay> i have a 64 bit chip too id like to run a 64 bit OS for at some point... breezy 64bit didn't like my hardware though so i had to drop down to 32bit
[01:28] <theking_2100> soundray i'm going to sleep now
[01:28] <soundray> theking_2100, me too. Too bad we couldn't fix it.
[01:28] <theking_2100> soundray  thx for helping me
[01:28] <badri_> karko: can you boot with the boot option "acpi=off" and see if it fixes it?
[01:29] <Karko> how do i do that
[01:29] <soundray> theking_2100, you will get it to work, though, if you go through that Howto thoroughly.
[01:29] <jepler> Seveas: it worked that time.
[01:29] <Karko> i put the cd in and instead of pressing enter i type that?
[01:29] <Seveas> jepler, cool
[01:29] <soundray> theking_2100, all the best!
[01:29] <badri_> karko: When you boot grub presents a menu
[01:29] <lnx_> is there a way to create a trash icon on the desktop?
[01:29] <theking_2100> soundray  can u just remember me the command to be the root
[01:29] <jepler> Seveas: should I put back the us. in my sources.list?  I assume I'll generally get better download speeds that way?
[01:29] <LiteHedded> can anyone help with my audio?
[01:29] <ivo_> Hi people
[01:29] <eldad_> fangorious: I guess there's a problem with my gnome-power-manager. it has "suspend" in its menu but that does nothing on my laptop
[01:29] <badri_> karko: and allows you to edit boot options by typing an e
[01:29] <soundray> theking_2100, sudo -i
[01:29] <Silivrenion> can someone in here say my username, so I can test something?
[01:29] <soundray> theking_2100, nice trick:
[01:29] <Karko> badri_ do i type it in here? http://www.ubuntu-fi.org/images/ubuntu5.10-asennus/ubuntu5.10-asennus01.png
[01:30] <fangorious> eldad_: bummer. i suggest filing a bug
[01:30] <bipolar> fangorious, do I still build using ubuntu/Breezy or do I change that to ubuntu/Dapper?
[01:30] <_jason> lnx_: yes, go to: applications menu -> system tools -> configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_visible and check it (or something similar)
[01:30] <Seveas> jepler, us.a.u.c is still broken - so for the moment please don't. but in a day or so ou should
[01:30] <theking_2100> soundray thx for your time
[01:30] <fangorious> anyone have dapper with / mounted to an LVM partition?
[01:30] <soundray> theking_2100, run 'history >command.txt' to store everything you've entered in a file.
[01:30] <fangorious> bipolar: I used ubuntu/Dapper
[01:30] <bipolar> awesome... ty
[01:30] <soundray> theking_2100, well, the last hundred or so lines.
[01:31] <soundray> theking_2100, bonne nuit
[01:31] <theking_2100> soundray good night and thx a lot
[01:31] <pdc303> bimberi:  "the file is not an audio stream" for an mp3.  Google isn't helping much.   No player will play it so it must be a codec issue
[01:31] <eldad_> fangorious: but I guess there's something which is mal-configured since I can suspend from the terminal and sleep button...
[01:31] <LiteHedded> can anyone help with my audio?   :)
[01:31] <badri_> karko: yes, type linux acpi=off
[01:32] <Twisty> good day
[01:32] <Karko> badri_ so it will look like boot: linux acpi=off
[01:32] <bimberi> pdc303: is it just one file or same for others?
[01:32] <badri_> karko: yes
[01:32] <pdc303> bimberi: same for others. all known-working mp3s
[01:32] <zerephath> I have installed Kat and it indicates that I need to have a kernel module called lnotify enabled for it to automatically track files as they are added...I tried modprobing lnotify, but it is not named as this..anyone help?
[01:32] <bimberi> pdc303: kk :/
[01:33] <jepler> Seveas: thanks for all your help.
[01:33] <fangorious> eldad_: well, i had a problem with g-p-m on breezy where suspending by closing the lid would cause an endless loop of suspend-on-resume, and that was resolved as 'works in dapper'. you're problem may be a similar situation. filing a bug is probably the best bet, as the problem will be looked at by the g-p-m author
[01:33] <pdc303> bimberi: apt-get says: gstreamer0.8-mad is already the newest version.
[01:33] <Karko> badri_ i think it started the installer, it asks me to choose a language now
[01:33] <badri_> karko: cool
[01:33] <RemyLaptop> hi folks!
[01:33] <Karko> badri_ was i ment to press enter after the linux acpi=off ?
[01:33] <bimberi> pdc303: yep, sorry i'm short of ideas at this point :/
[01:33] <RemyLaptop> question: I just upgraded to breezy from hoary, and for some reason a lot of the icons have disappeared
[01:33] <badri_> karko: yes
[01:33] <fangorious> pdc303: breezy or dapper?
[01:33] <RemyLaptop> any ideas why?
[01:34] <pdc303> fangorious: Dapper4
[01:34] <RemyLaptop> for example, the icon for the "show desktop" button is no longer there
[01:34] <eldad_> fangorious: i'll do that... how do I get dapper to work...? :)
[01:34] <fangorious> pdc303: dapper uses gstreamer 0.10, look for gstreamer0.1-plugins-ugly
[01:34] <C_J_Pro> Anyone here having problems with Firefox 1.5.0.1 constantly crashing under Breezy?
[01:34] <RemyLaptop> plus all the other files now just have blank icons, where they used to show previews
[01:34] <lnx_> _jason, I don't have a configuration editor in system tools
[01:34] <pdc303> fangorious:  0.10 > 0.8  ??
[01:34] <Karko> badri_ what am i supposed to do now
[01:34] <_jason> lnx_: are you using breezy?
[01:35] <Karko> badri_ go thru the whole installation process again?
[01:35] <lnx_> dapper
[01:35] <fangorious> eldad_: well, dapper is still beta. you can download an image from cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4 at your own risk
[01:35] <wastrel> RemyLaptop:  your gnome icon theme may be broken?  check system->preferences->theme  theme details
[01:35] <badri_> karko: are you already done with the installation?
[01:35] <fangorious> pdc303: yes it's version .ten rather than .eight
[01:35] <Karko> badri_ no i didint go further with the language
[01:35] <_jason> lnx_: okay, maybe they moved it.  Run 'gconf2' in a terminal if you can't find it
[01:35] <RemyLaptop> thanks wastrel
[01:35] <LiteHedded> can anyone help with my audio?   :)
[01:35] <lambros> hi, I'm totally new to "X-chat gnome" :-)  Is there somewhere I can go to learn how to use this thing?  I clicked on the link at the top of the screen: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup but it doesn't make sense to a newbie like me :-)  What is the "/msg serv..." gibberish all about?
[01:35] <badri_> karko: did you have problems in the installation itself or is the installation complete already and you cannot boot now?
[01:35] <phbc50> C_J_Pro> happens sometimes, several problems I don't know why exactly
[01:36] <_jason> lnx_: oops, I mean gconf-editor :)
[01:36] <pdc303> fangorious: .10 > .8   - that's just silly
[01:36] <bimberi> RemyLaptop: Yes, resetting your theme should fix some of those issues
[01:36] <RemyLaptop> wastrel, that was it.  you legend :)
[01:36] <IdleOne> lambros:  type /msg nickserv help
[01:36] <badri_> karko: I will be back in 5 mins
[01:36] <eldad_> fangorious: thanx... do u know how to script an auto suspend, say... using "cron" and "pmi action suspend"
[01:36] <Karko> badri_ not sure really, at some point of the installation it told me the main thingy is done and take off the cd-rom and reboot, i did take the cd off and reboot, it went to the darkbrown screen and then installing packages, after intalling packages it had the starting gnome nad then blackscreen
[01:37] <lambros> Thanks, IdleOne, I'll give it a try.
[01:37] <fangorious> lnx_: Applications->Accessories->Alacarte Menu Editor, and you can enable the Configuration Editor menu item
[01:37] <fangorious> eldad_: sorry, never ventured that far into it
[01:37] <fangorious> pdc303: yeah, but it's pretty standard fare
[01:37] <lnx_> _jason, well checking it didn't make the icon appear
[01:38] <yonkeltron> would anyone happen to know how to correct size mismatch errors with packages?
[01:38] <_jason> lnx_: that's a bug then because it does on breezy
[01:38] <bimberi> lnx_: top left?
[01:38] <lnx_> _jason, do i need to restart nautilus or anything?
[01:38] <lnx_> bimberi, nothing
[01:39] <wastrel> yonkeltron:  trying to install stuff with apt?
[01:39] <yonkeltron> wastrel: yes
[01:39] <bimberi> lnx_: hm, works here (flight4)
[01:39] <_jason> lnx_: happens instantly for me, you can just make a launcher to 'nautilus trash:///' instead I guess
[01:39] <yonkeltron> wastrel: but the same thing happened with synaptic
[01:39] <wastrel> yonkeltron:  known problem, being worked on right now
[01:39] <yonkeltron> wastrel: thank you so much. is there something i can do to help?
[01:40] <fangorious> lnx_: what's not appearing?
[01:40] <wastrel> yonkeltron:  i dunno, i'm just repeating what i saw someone else say :] 
[01:40] <lnx_> fangorious, trash or computer
[01:40] <yonkeltron> wastrel: haha! thanks a bunch then. at least it's being worked on eh?
[01:40] <pdc303> fangorious: installed. I see /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstmad.so exists now. Still not mp3 playback >.<
[01:41] <zerephath> how does one install smb4k suid root?
[01:41] <badri> karko: I am back
[01:41] <wastrel> yonkeltron:  the hardworking developers are on the case apparently
[01:41] <zerephath> synaptic seems to have avoided this..
[01:41] <pdc303> fangorious: Ignore that :)
[01:41] <badri> karko: I presume you are done with the installation and cannot boot
[01:41] <lambros> Umm.. typing "/msg nickserv help" isn't helping.  I can see ">nickserv<" in the left column, and "help" in the right column.  Perhaps the help system is down?
[01:41] <fangorious> pdc303: so it's playing now?
[01:41] <yonkeltron> zerephath: synaptic faltered as well
[01:42] <pdc303> fangorious: It has loaded the mp3. Audio output is the next step...
[01:42] <wastrel> lambros:  maybe your client is autoignoring because of a flood response, maybe the reply is in a different tab.
[01:42] <Angel_Dex> How can i tell what action si can do in the terminal with a phrase? i thought it was putting a - after it
[01:42] <bimberi> lambros: If you click 'FreeNode' at the top left the reply should be there
[01:42] <lnx_> got it
[01:42] <lnx_> nevermind
[01:42] <zerephath> yonkeltron: Well...it is probably intentional..but I don't want to have to drop to a term everytime I need to snag something off of the other boxes
[01:42] <fangorious> pdc303: baby steps, you run the mixer and make sure the channels aren't muted or at zero volume?
[01:43] <IdleOne> lambros:  there is a tab at the top of your screen called notices click on that
[01:43] <pdc303> fangorious: no worries. I know how to work the mixer :P
[01:43] <yonkeltron> zerephath: i hear you. i keep several terms open all the time
[01:43] <pdc303> fangorious: anyway, it's playing nicely thanks
[01:43] <zerephath> If that were the goal I would just keep gentoo and run command line :)
[01:44] <Laibsch> Can I use debootstrap from my Debian system to install ubuntu?
[01:44] <lnx_> what's the command to make a starter for home?
[01:45] <fangorious> pdc303: if you want aac, you need to install libfaad/libfaac and compile gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly from source (unless they've added it to the repo since I looked)
[01:45] <jadams> does anyone know how to set up multiple machines on my network to play the audio stream from a particular computer?  Specifically, I'm looking to have machines in various parts of the house all synchronously playing what's on my living room PC's rhythmbox...
[01:45] <_jason> lnx_: there should be an option in gconf for that too
[01:45] <AskHL> Hello, I cannot type the pipe "|" character in the following programes: JBuilder, NetBeans, Maple. This can be quite irritating. Does anyone have an idea about which keyboard configurations might be tinkered with to solve this problem?
[01:45] <lnx_> _jason, no i know, i wanted to add a launcher to a gdesklet
[01:45] <lnx_> _jason: I should say i accidently deleted the one i had
[01:45] <_jason> lnx_: just do 'nautilus /home/username'
[01:46] <pdc303> fangorious: great. Could you also suggest a source for libdvdcss2? I see it's not in the repo
[01:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell pdc303 about dvd
[01:46] <xiaoyu> is there a version of mplayer that do not need install
[01:46] <jjjjjjj> hello.  I want to add a user but don't see any "must change pw at next logon" option.
[01:46] <_jason> xiaoyu: ? you want mplayer without installing it?
[01:46] <fangorious> pdc303: i haven't gotten that far yet
[01:46] <xiaoyu> yes
[01:46] <xiaoyu> have you
[01:46] <_jason> xiaoyu: how do you want it to get on your computer?
[01:47] <pdc303> thank you fangorious. thank you _jason.
[01:47] <tck_> evening everybody
[01:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell xiaoyu about mplayer
[01:47] <_jason> xiaoyu: see if that helps you
[01:47] <lambros> I can't see any tabs anywhere.  And I can't see any "FreeNode" text anywhere.  I have a menubar: "IRC Edit Network Discussion Go Help".  Below that at the left is "Ubuntu Servers" with "#ubuntu" selected beneath it.
[01:47] <math1221> i am getting a fetch failed, mismatch error when trying to install kde....anybody know what the problem could be?
[01:48] <xiaoyu> i can not install it
[01:48] <IdleOne> lambros:  best place to get help with xchat is #xchat type /j #xchat
[01:48] <bimberi> lambros: try clicking on 'Ubuntu Servers'
[01:48] <jjjjjjj> ubotu:  tell me about adding a user and when they logon they have to change the password.  :)
[01:48] <IdleOne> lambros:  www/xchat.org/help may help you also
[01:49] <IdleOne> lambros:  www.chat.org/help may help you also
[01:49] <IdleOne> errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:49] <wastrel> lambros:  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[01:49] <IdleOne> for get it
[01:49] <xiaoyu> ths
[01:49] <xiaoyu> but my english is poor
[01:50] <tck_> www.xchat.org/help is handy
[01:50] <IdleOne> tck_:  thanks lol
[01:50] <_jason> xiaoyu: what is your native language?
[01:50] <yonkeltron> xiaoyu: you are doing very well. don't worry about it
[01:50] <xiaoyu> chinese
[01:50] <Angel_Dex> how do i see what commands i can do with a phrase int he terminal?
[01:50] <math1221> anyone?
[01:51] <IdleOne> !anyone
[01:51] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:51] <wastrel> math1221:  known problem in the repos, devs are working on it...  try again later
[01:51] <_jason> xiaoyu: okay, just let me know if you do not understand something I say.  Do you get an error trying to install mplayer by following the wiki guide?
[01:51] <dsaa|away> is it posible to install ubuntu directly from HD to HD?
[01:51] <ompaul> Angel_Dex, there are so many we would be here for a couple of days, best to look for an introduction to the "bash" shell
[01:51] <jjjjjjj> ubotu: passwords
[01:51] <ubotu> password is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[01:51] <wastrel> there's a good guide to commands on the wiki
[01:51] <math1221> wastrel, thanks
[01:51] <Laibsch> dsaa|away: What do you mean?
[01:52] <wastrel> !cli
[01:52] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[01:52] <xiaoyu> i just used the tool sy--
[01:52] <_jason> xiaoyu: you can also try #ubuntu-zh for help in chinese if you want, just type: /join #ubuntu-zh
[01:52] <bimberi> dsaa|away: you might find something here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:52] <Angel_Dex> ompaul i remember somone showing me one and it was like enter your phrase then - after and it showed what commands can be done starting with that prhase
[01:52] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, for good info on command line stuff, go to tldp.org, and look at the bash stuff under guides
[01:52] <xiaoyu> thank you
[01:52] <Angel_Dex> ompaul altho i think i got the - wrong with another key
[01:52] <bimberi> Angel_Dex: the TAB key
[01:52] <xiaoyu> i have anothere problem
[01:52] <Angel_Dex> bimberi ah hah~! many thanks
[01:53] <lambros> Ok, thanks for your help.  I'll see what I can figure out.  Clicking on 'Ubuntu Servers' was helpful.  I don't understand what the "#xchat type /j #xchat" is all about.
[01:53] <bimberi> Angel_Dex: yw :)
[01:53] <wastrel> lambros:  irc commands start with a  /
[01:53] <xiaoyu> words in the up window do not display full
[01:53] <ompaul> Angel_Dex, type a letter hit tab take the word you see on screen and type man that word so m tab will give several words including man (which is a command) so start with man man :-) then you can do the alphabet
[01:53] <dsaa|away> thanks bamberi
[01:53] <xiaoyu> do you know why
[01:53] <nickrud> better yet, buy the blessed bash book from o'rielly
[01:53] <wastrel> lambros:   so you can join a channel by typing  /join <channelname>   /j  is a shorter version
[01:54] <wastrel> lambros:  channels all start with a #
[01:54] <Angel_Dex> many thanks all
[01:54] <Angel_Dex> im out to fiddel
[01:54] <Angel_Dex> later
[01:54] <LiteHedded> wastrel: i have two artsd running could that be the problem
[01:54] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, question: how can I watch .wmv files in ubunutu?
[01:54] <RemyLaptop> the "totem" player says it's missing a codec
[01:54] <_jason> RemyLaptop: install totem-xine and w32codecs
[01:54] <wastrel> LiteHedded:  mebby :]   kill one ?
[01:54] <RemyLaptop> k
[01:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell RemyLaptop about w32codecs
[01:54] <LiteHedded> heh
[01:54] <LiteHedded> k
[01:55] <LiteHedded> no luck
[01:55] <LiteHedded> is alsa installed?
[01:55] <theplateau> im not able to compile anything correctly, any suggestions for packages that could ix this
[01:55] <LiteHedded> cus I don't have alsaconfig
[01:55] <RemyLaptop> thanks _jason
[01:55] <RemyLaptop> :-)
[01:55] <theplateau> i apt-get gcc and make
[01:56] <_jason> theplateau: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:56] <broam> Hello all
[01:56] <AMDXP> ok I have a AMD 64 Athlon when i try to install the i386 Breezy it locks up at the xserver install 71% but when i run the Breezy 64 it installs fine
[01:56] <theplateau> ty
[01:56] <slvmchn> how do you format a usb disk (256 megs) in ubuntu?
[01:56] <slvmchn> i can't figure it out
[01:56] <[Billy] > wow its hard to get help in a channel with 670 users :p
[01:56] <broam> brb
[01:56] <_jason> theplateau: and of course you need the proper dependencies for whatever it is you are compiling (usually you need the -dev packages)
[01:56] <AMDXP> [Billy] :  LOL
[01:56] <[Billy] > seriously, cant get a word in with anyone noticing :p
[01:56] <theplateau> thanks man that worked
[01:56] <_jason> [Billy] : it's probably easier when there are more users
[01:56] <_jason> more people to help
[01:57] <[Billy] > less easier to get noticed _jason
[01:57] <_jason> also true
[01:57] <wastrel> [Billy] :  you just joined and got a response to the first 2 things you said
[01:57] <slvmchn> when i right click the usb disk on the desktop it doesn't show any "format" option
[01:57] <[Billy] > more people to help, and more people who need help
[01:57] <slvmchn> on my windows machine it shows 255 megs free, on this one it shows 10 megs
[01:57] <slvmchn> can't figure out why
[01:57] <lambros> Ah, I see.  So this long box is used for commands (starting with '/') as well as normal chat messages.
[01:57] <yonkeltron> wastrel: do you remember who said it?
[01:57] <RemyLaptop> question: is there any way of accessing MSN Messenger on Ubuntu ?
[01:57] <[Billy] > wastrel: i joined about 20 minutes early but gave u coz no1 was noticing my messages ;)
[01:57] <[Billy] > yes reggaemanu
[01:57] <[Billy] > RemyLaptop
[01:57] <wastrel> yonkeltron:  it was Seveas (i think he's a dev)
[01:58] <wastrel> RemyLaptop:  i believe there's a msn plugin for gaim
[01:58] <broam> Morning all
[01:58] <kdean06> Can someone help me install the drivers I need for my 3Com 3c905B network card?
[01:58] <[Billy] > what package does pppoe come in?
[01:58] <yonkeltron> Seveas: SYN
[01:58] <broam> Someone said they needed some help and wasn't getting it?
[01:58] <lambros> Thanks for your help.  Sorry to bother you with this newbie stuff :-)
[01:58] <twysted> RemyLaptop> amsn or gaim
[01:58] <RemyLaptop> !amsn
[01:58] <AMDXP> slvmchn: dunno at least it shows up for you
[01:58] <ubotu> well, amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[01:58] <broam> kdean06: The drivers should already be installed... 3c905b is a very common card
[01:58] <RemyLaptop> ta
[01:58] <xiaoyu> _jason:can you help me
[01:58] <McJerry> every time i reboot ubuntu dapper  2.6.15-15-386 i have to ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 to get name resolve to work......can someone help me fix this
[01:58] <bimberi> [Billy] : pppoeconf
[01:58] <[Billy] > thanks
[01:59] <bimberi> [Billy] : yw
[01:59] <broam> kdean06: are you having trouble getitng an eth0 device to show up?
[01:59] <McJerry> no
[01:59] <[Billy] > bimberi: im a linux noob, apt-get install pppoeconf??
[01:59] <_jason> xiaoyu: sure, with mplayer still?
[01:59] <broam> McJerry: I had that problem too...did you install from Flight or upgrade from breezy?
[01:59] <bimberi> [Billy] : yes, although its  sudo apt-get ...
[01:59] <xiaoyu> no
[01:59] <kdean06> broam, No. The card works at boot, but it dies. I was getting an error earlier but I can't seem to find it now...
[02:00] <_jason> xiaoyu: ok, just ask your question then :)
[02:00] <[Billy] > bimberi: i always sudo -s -H before i start anything
[02:00] <xiaoyu> how can you add my name defor your words
[02:00] <broam> kdean06: You might have some luck grepping your logs
[02:00] <McJerry> broam: i upgraded from breezy about 2 months back, all was working fine however until about a week ago
[02:00] <bimberi> [Billy] : fair enough then :)
[02:00] <_jason> xiaoyu: just type the beginning of my name: _ja and then press <TAB>
[02:00] <bimberi> [Billy] : no sudo required
[02:00] <broam> McJerry: Hmm.  I remember that there was some config change that made your network card show up twice in a configuration file
[02:00] <furiouslettuce> how would i start a command line program on startup [and get it to keep running] ? i've tried entering gnome-terminal -e "command" into the sessions at 50, but to no avail
[02:00] <RemyLaptop> Ok, I followed the instructions to install the w32codecs, but it failed
[02:00] <broam> McJerry: I know reinstalling from flight fixes it, but most people can't do that
[02:01] <broam> furiouslettuce: type & after it to background the process
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> I take it back
[02:01] <RemyLaptop> worked now :)
[02:01] <xiaoyu> _jason, l have another question
[02:01] <[Billy] > bimberi: lets hope for the best now :p need to get modem working under ubuntu
[02:01] <furiouslettuce> broam - thanks :)
[02:01] <broam> furiouslettuce: So like... gnome-terminal &
[02:01] <_jason> xiaoyu: you can just ask it
[02:01] <broam> furiouslettuce: will launch a separate gnome-terminal.  You can exit the original terminal and it won't close the app
[02:01] <xiaoyu> _jason, the words in the up window can't display full
[02:01] <bimberi> [Billy] : good luck with that, can be interesting if it's a winmodem
[02:01] <McJerry> broam: surely if it is a config file prob somewhere, there should be no need to reinstall
[02:02] <broam> McJerry: Yeah.  I was having other problems with X (nasty ones) and I was trying to reinstall to see if I could duplicate it
[02:02] <xiaoyu> _jason, do you know why
[02:02] <[Billy] > bimberi its a USB ADSL modem, incompatilble with linux :'(
[02:02] <stock> hmm why are both fdisk and cfdisk missing inside the installation dvd after going to the ash prompt with CNTRL-ALT-F2 ?
[02:02] <_jason> xiaoyu: what up window?
[02:02] <[Billy] > bimberi: not easy for noobies like me :p
[02:02] <broam> McJerry: Lemme see if I can find it for you...try searching the forums
[02:02] <foampeace> if linux is to take a big leap forward in what areas
[02:02] <xiaoyu> _jason, that display your words
[02:02] <kdean06> broam, Sorry, what specifically hsould I do?
[02:02] <McJerry> broam: am checking logs and dmesg now
[02:03] <wastrel> stock:  try /sbin/fdisk  ?
[02:03] <_jason> xiaoyu: the topic?  Does it start with ``Official Ubuntu support channel...''?
[02:03] <eldad_> fangorious: well, bug is post (g-p-m) thanx anyway!
[02:03] <stock> No such file or directory
[02:03] <fangorious> eldad_ good luck!
[02:03] <bimberi> [Billy] : ah, well you might find some tips on https://wiki.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org for that
[02:03] <xiaoyu> _jason, no just under that
[02:04] <xiaoyu> _jason, the big one
[02:04] <broam> kdean06: You know the card works under another OS?
[02:04] <[Billy] > bimberi: i checked, someone else had the same problem and it was never answered :'(
[02:04] <_jason> xiaoyu: you are using xchat?
[02:04] <broam> kdean06: or another machine?
[02:04] <xiaoyu> _jason, yes
[02:04] <bimberi> [Billy] : hmkk :|
[02:04] <xiaoyu> _jason, is there a better one
[02:04] <eldad_> HELP - anyone knows how to auto-suspend a laptop (G-P-M does nothing when I click suspend) (sleep button works)
[02:04] <[Billy] > bimberi: the drivers im using is tellin me that pppoe isnt install yet it is, and he had the exact same problem in 2005 :;p
[02:04] <kdean06> broam, I am fairly certian it does.
[02:04] <stock> its : # fdisk: not found
[02:04] <xiaoyu> _jason, i am new to this OS
[02:05] <_jason> xiaoyu: I like irssi but xchat is good too
[02:05] <broam> kdean06: what does `sudo dhclient3` get you?
[02:05] <broam> kdean06: or should I say, how does it die?
[02:05] <xiaoyu> _jason, do you know why
[02:05] <_jason> xiaoyu: maybe you can take a screenshot (ALT+PrntScrn) and show me what you mean.  Just put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ after you take the screenshot
[02:05] <wastrel> xiaoyu:  someone on #ubuntu-zh is asking for you
[02:06] <LiteHedded> can anyone try to help me with my sound issues?
[02:06] <fangorious> man, the flight4 install cd dowloads slow, even with torrent. the livecd took like 25 minutes. this is taking like 2.5 hours
[02:06] <xiaoyu> _jason, ok
[02:06] <broam> fangorious: you can install flight4 off of the live CD
[02:06] <broam> fangorious: Might be why everyone's downloading it
[02:06] <jerryv> Hey guys I was trying to figure out the best way to update to the latest firefox currently i'm running 1.0.7.  Any suggestions on getting this done?
[02:07] <wastrel> !firefox1.5
[02:07] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:07] <nixbox> hi all
[02:07] <fangorious> broam: ii theory, but it won't let me use my LVM partitions when setting mount points (like /)
[02:07] <jerryv> Thanks
[02:07] <wastrel> yo :] 
[02:07] <broam> fangorious: True.  However it looks like everyone's really testing that extensively
[02:07] <kdean06> broam, Well, when I say it dies, it means that it stops working. After boot, I can access the files on Apache2, but (usually after loading a page twice, or pressing STOP) it fails to make a connection.
[02:07] <broam> McJerry: fyi I'm drawing a blank as to what config file it was...
[02:07] <LiteHedded> i really would like to have sound in ubuntu. that would be a nice feature :)
[02:08] <nixbox> i have just installed ubuntu on my laptop, i have to configure my wireless network, and because my i have got wireless access to the Internet so I wasn't able to download wpa_supplicant (as my wireless network needs to be configured first), where do i get the package for wpa_supplicant?
[02:08] <broam> McJerry: It was in ubuntu-devel (the mailing list) but man does that list get traffic
[02:08] <kdean06> broam, I'm accessing the machine with issues from another machine.
[02:08] <broam> kdean06: Gotcha.
[02:08] <sinaduel> I need help, I have a GeForce FX3200 or 5200, and I can put the video onto TV, but I need to know how do do that through linux
[02:08] <jjjjjjj> yes jerryv  follow that link... i used it.
[02:08] <fangorious> broam: i am notoriously bad at finding existing bugs/threads, but i haven't found any discussion of not being able to use lvm in the installer. you have any pointers?
[02:08] <eroda> hello
[02:08] <broam> fangorious: the Espresso Installer?  Haven't used it...was mainly talking about why it would be so popular.
[02:08] <eroda> just wonderign what 6.10 is going to be called
[02:09] <eroda> i thought of this but
[02:09] <eroda> Ubuntu 6.10 (The Eager Echidna ) : October 2006
[02:09] <broam> fangorious: If it's the normal install...hmm.  I don't think I've used LVM
[02:09] <sinaduel> eroda: awesome name
[02:09] <broam> fangorious: I've only put Dapper on one box.  This one.  And I've done it repeatedly too. :(
[02:09] <kdean06> broam, There was an error ONCE when this occured, and I asked in here. After I got that error, lspci no longer registered the device. I haven't gotten the error again, but the problems are still occuring.
[02:09] <fangorious> broam: yeah, it's pretty slick. espeially the "some text here. this is for keyboard configuration" page
[02:09] <bimberi> eroda: http://wiki.kaarsemaker.net/UbuntuNames
[02:09] <eroda> lol
[02:09] <broam> kdean06: Wow.  LSPCI dropped the device?!
[02:09] <kdean06> broam, Yes
[02:09] <wastrel> echidnas are australian, not african
[02:09] <xiaoyu> _jason, i have done
[02:09] <kdean06> broam, It was back after a reboot.
[02:10] <southern> hi all
[02:10] <broam> kdean06: Hmm.  This is way out of my league.  It could be a bug in the driver
[02:10] <eroda> i cant think of animals starting with e in africa off the top of my head
[02:10] <bimberi> wastrel: are badgers african?
[02:10] <eroda> i didnt think so
[02:10] <southern> I've got problem
[02:10] <eroda> but meh
[02:10] <broam> kdean06: what bothers me is that 3c905e is one of the better consumer-level cards...brb
[02:10] <wastrel> bimberi:  hmm
[02:10] <broam> excuse me, woman needs me
[02:10] <eroda> mine still good tho
[02:10] <southern> I installed an ubuntu 5.1 but after reboot I get grub error 22
[02:10] <disastorm> hi
[02:10] <southern> (I have asus k8n4-e + sempron 2800)
[02:10] <bimberi> eroda: it is, you should add it to that page
[02:11] <wastrel> bimberi:  there are badgers in africa
[02:11] <disastorm> hi
[02:11] <eroda> how
[02:11] <kdean06> broam, Well, I'm having issue all around with hetworking (and this is a server!) My onboard ethernet doesn't work at all, though it is detected by lspci
[02:11] <broam> kdean06: ahem, that's one of the more common cards, and they're certainly not new
[02:11] <bimberi> wastrel: hedgehogs?
[02:11] <LiteHedded> does anyone have experience getting sound working?
[02:11] <disastorm> what is dapper i have heard of it alot
[02:11] <southern> guys any idea?
[02:11] <wastrel> bimberi:  well there seems to be a "honey badger"  but point taken
[02:11] <broam> kdean06: Stupid question...do you have another box that you can put the card into temporarily and see if you can reproduce it?
[02:11] <tatters_> I want to mount my external usb hard drive at bootup, I understand I need to edit my fstab but its wrong how should it be ?
[02:11] <nixbox> where can i manually download a ubuntu package? URL?
[02:11] <xiaoyu> _jason, title is pro
[02:11] <bimberi> eroda: edit links on bottom left
[02:11] <broam> kdean06: I'm wondering if the failure is intermittent like it's a bad slot or something...
[02:11] <ompaul> southern, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[02:11] <tatters_> /dev/sda         /media/usbdisk ext3  <<-- thats what I got so far
[02:12] <leleobhz> UUUUUUUHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL!!!!
[02:12] <kdean06> broam, hrm... I
[02:12] <leleobhz> THANKS GUYS!
[02:12] <broam> kdean06: However that doesn't mean that the driver isn't to blame.  I'd see if you can eliminate causes, then if you can't solve it, file a bug in launchpad
[02:12] <disastorm> what is dapper?
[02:12] <eroda> kk checking now
[02:12] <leleobhz> the dist-upgrade to breezy was successfull!
[02:12] <broam> kdean06: I'm no kernel developer
[02:12] <ompaul> southern, its not for everybody but in some cases it works - in others you need to look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions not the full complement of boot options but it is some of them
[02:12] <broam> disastorm: It's the (very broken at times) next version of Ubuntu.  Don't run it right now
[02:12] <disastorm> oh ok
[02:13] <ompaul> !dapper
[02:13] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[02:13] <xiaoyu> _jason, are you there
[02:13] <disastorm> also do you know how to find out what parameters an exe passes to another exe (so i can run the second exe with wine)
[02:13] <broam> disastorm: like the command options?  Hmm...
[02:13] <kdean06> broam, I can't bring any of my computers down to add another NIC (except my mac) and I think that might be a bit non-productive. I'm thinking I should just pop in my netgear and re-install.
[02:14] <kdean06> wow
[02:14] <bushito> !ati
[02:14] <tatters_> mass exodus
[02:14] <bushito> !ati
[02:14] <Jormundgand> No, netsplit.
[02:14] <Falstius> didn't like those people anyway.
[02:14] <disastorm> like in ragnarok the ragnarok.exe passes 1rag1 to ragexe.exe
[02:14] <Mordof> aaah its the apocalypse!
[02:14] <elkbuntu> whoa...................what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[02:14] <tatters_> lol
[02:14] <Mordof> OMG
[02:14] <disastorm> but normally u cant run ragexe.exe unless u put 1rag1 after it
[02:14] <elkbuntu> oh dear gawwwwd
[02:14] <Mordof> we're all gonna die!!!
[02:14] <broam> kdean06: you shouldn't have to reinstall Linux when you swap cards
[02:14] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[02:14] <disastorm> and what just happened to some of the people in here lol??
[02:14] <broam> tatters_: it's known as a netsplit
[02:14] <disastorm> rofl spam
[02:14] <disastorm> hey so
[02:14] <Mordof> gah!!!!
[02:14] <tatters_> noooooooooo
[02:14] <disastorm> does anynoe know how to find out what i asked
[02:14] <eggman> Time to impesronate some ops!
[02:15] <elkbuntu> that is one mofo netsplit
[02:15] <bimberi> wastrel: i take your point too - an echidna is specifically australian whereas the others aren't so specific :)
[02:15] <disastorm> does anynoe know how to find out what i asked
[02:15] <bimberi> disastorm: use your up-arrow key
[02:15] <tatters_> netslpit is what exactly?
[02:15] <Mordof> elkbuntu: you any good with shell scripts? :P
[02:15] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I installed amsn through the package manager, how do I now add it to the "Applications" menu ?
[02:15] <disastorm> also do you know how to find out what parameters an exe passes to another exe (so i can run the second exe with wine)
[02:15] <kdean06> broam, I have other reasons to do so anyway...
[02:15] <elkbuntu> Mordof, nope
[02:15] <RememberPOL> Is there a way to prevent my sound settings from resetting back to 0% volume each time I restart? (HDA Intel, Realtek ALC880 w/ ALSA v1.0.9a)
[02:15] <RememberPOL> Also, does anybody know how to successfully run PunkBuster with the Breezy version of Quake 3 Arena 1.33?
[02:15] <RemyLaptop> WWWWWWW000000000000000, go netsplit :)
[02:15] <Twisty> Hey could I get some help? I want to beable to use my second HDD with but it doesn't show up, it is my windows part.
[02:15] <broam> tatters_: quick explanation: there's not one IRC server on this network, there's more than one.  When they stop talking to each other, you get a netsplit
[02:15] <Falstius> disastorm, its probably better to repeat your question isn't of just saying "do you read my question?"
[02:16] <disastorm> omg man i just said it
[02:16] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I installed amsn through the package manager, how do I now add it to the "Applications" menu ?
[02:16] <tatters_> k thnx
[02:16] <Falstius> disastorm, during a netsplit ...
[02:16] <disastorm> no i mean
[02:16] <disastorm> just now
[02:16] <disastorm> before u said that i said it
[02:16] <kdean06> Twisty, Are you trying to access the drive on Ubuntu, or boot from it?
[02:16] <disastorm> also do you know how to find out what parameters an exe passes to another exe (so i can run the second exe with wine)
[02:16] <Mordof> elkbuntu: for shame!!!
[02:16] <tatters_> so a node went down?
[02:16] <_jason> xiaoyu: did you get my link from before?
[02:16] <broam> Twisty: is it a FAT32 or NTFS drive?
[02:16] <Twisty> I'm trying to acess the drive on Ubu
[02:16] <broam> tatters_: something like that
[02:16] <Twisty> NTFS
[02:17] <xiaoyu> _jason, yese
[02:17] <_jason> xiaoyu: is that the part you are talking about?
[02:17] <broam> Twisty: ubotu has a clue that might help
[02:17] <tatters_>  so this is a common event?
[02:17] <kdean06> Twisty, You have to mount it first. I believe (correct me if I'm worng) that Linux can not write to NTFS, but can read from it.
[02:17] <broam> tatters_: hopefully no
[02:17] <disastorm> yea i remember it would happen in starcraft sometimes lol
[02:17] <xiaoyu> _jason, have which one
[02:17] <disastorm> netsplit
[02:17] <tatters_> k
[02:17] <CaNsA> whats a good, low resource, torrent client for linux/ubuntu?
[02:17] <_jason> xiaoyu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9086
[02:17] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, I installed amsn through the package manager, how do I now add it to the "Applications" menu ?
[02:17] <broam> kdean06, Twisty:  NTFS write support is there, don't know how good it is.
[02:17] <xiaoyu> _jason, yes i have posted the pic
[02:18] <kdean06> Ah, good. I haven't messed with NTFS in a while. :-p
[02:18] <xiaoyu> _jason, the title is pro
[02:18] <Arafangion> tatters_: Suppose you have 1000 users using a two-server irc network.
[02:18] <LoPMX> any textdrive + switchtower user here?
[02:18] <_jason> xiaoyu: no, that one is mine.  I circled the part I think you are talking about, I just want you to tell me if it is the right part http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9086
[02:18] <Falstius> broam: supposedly the latest knoppix supports NTFS write ... but I don't have any NTFS drives to test it on.
[02:18] <CaNsA> anyone? a good torrent clinet?
[02:18] <Arafangion> tatters_: Suppose 500 users are connected to 'A', and 500 are connected to 'B'.
[02:18] <Twisty> Alrighty then ;)
[02:18] <kdean06> CaNsA, Azureus
[02:18] <broam> kdean06: I'm not sure what the cool kids use these days.  I put my drives FAT32 when I wanted to save some data when I went Free
[02:18] <tatters_> k
[02:18] <broam> Falstius: Nor do I.  Pity. :)
[02:19] <Arafangion> tatters_: Suppose Jane and Joe are connected to 'A' and 'B' respectively.
[02:19] <CaNsA> low resource kdean06, cheers thoudh
[02:19] <tatters_> yah im with ya
[02:19] <Twisty> I'm a Linux noob :-D
[02:19] <Arafangion> tatters_: During a netsplit, servers A and B are unable to talk to each other.
[02:19] <Twisty> I just moved over
[02:19] <broam> Twisty: I'm only a few months here.  Still completely confused about a lot of things.
[02:19] <Arafangion> tatters_: What happens to dialogue between Jane and Joe?
[02:19] <Falstius> its possible to find drivers for ext3 for windows if you want to make a data drive for dual boot machines.  Thats what my laptop does.
[02:19] <Twisty> Yeah i'm used to mIrc I kinda like it better
[02:19] <disastorm> anyone know how to find out what parameters an exe passes to another exe (so i can run the second exe with wine)
[02:19] <broam> Falstius: Yeah, the ones that do ext3 writing are no-cost binary only.
[02:20] <xiaoyu> _jason, what do you mean?
[02:20] <xiaoyu> _jason, i can open it
[02:20] <kdean06> CaNsA, bittorent itself then. The original client is pretty simple, and I believe (unless I'm on the wrong distro) that there is an included GNOME program for it. Neither is very resource intensive.
[02:20] <tatters_> well in a perfect world A would carry on chatting to B on A :/
[02:20] <xiaoyu> _jason, and i have post the pic
[02:20] <tatters_> if b wnet down
[02:20] <CaNsA> jammin
[02:20] <CaNsA> cheers kdean06
[02:20] <broam> tatters_: yes, but that's the problem.  A connected to server 1, and B connected to server 2
[02:20] <_jason> xiaoyu: in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9086 I drew a circle around a part of the picture.  The part that is inside the circle, is that what you are talking about?
[02:20] <broam> tatters_: if the servers cant' send data back and forth, A can't see B
[02:20] <xiaoyu> _jason, no under that
[02:20] <Arafangion> tatters_: But it is UNABLE to do so.
[02:21] <_jason> xiaoyu: oh I see now
[02:21] <navarone> twisty I used mirc as well...but xchat is better by far...although icechat is pretty good for windows...imo
[02:21] <unk468> how xorg is configurated in ubuntu ? "sudo xorg -configure / xorgcfg -textmode" dosen`t work say "command not found"
[02:21] <southern> PLEASE HELP
[02:21] <tatters_> so A and B are islands till they can talk again?
[02:21] <xiaoyu> _jason, look each line's end carefully
[02:21] <Arafangion> tatters_: Bingo
[02:21] <broam> Twisty: I'm on irssi myself
[02:21] <broam> southern: We're listening
[02:21] <mustard5> unk468, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <tatters_> ah weres me prize :)
[02:22] <broam> tatters_: The knowledge itself is the prize.
[02:22] <tatters_> yup
[02:22] <Arafangion> tatters_: All users on server 'A' can talk amongst their own island, as can those on 'B', but they can't talk to each other.
[02:22] <tatters_> just gunna say that
[02:22] <unk468> mustard5 thx
[02:22] <xiaoyu> _jason, the last word can not display correctly
[02:22] <southern> after I installed ubuntu 5.1 -> reboot -> grub error 22
[02:22] <disastorm> anyone know how to find out what parameters an exe passes to another exe (so i can run the second exe with wine)
[02:22] <_jason> xiaoyu: I don't know, never saw that.  Have you tried a different font?
[02:22] <southern> (nforce4
[02:22] <broam> southern: Hmm...just says "22"?
[02:22] <southern> yes grub error 22
[02:23] <southern> after a successfull install :(
[02:23] <xiaoyu> _jason, no is this a codepage problem
[02:23] <southern> asus k8n4-e + sempron 2800
[02:23] <mustard5> southern, I'll just check the error number ...
[02:23] <fangorious> southern: i believe you need to reinstall grub
[02:23] <broam> mustard5: could I get that list off of you? :)
[02:23] <southern> fangorious: i didn't do anything ...
[02:24] <mustard5> broam, k   http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:24] <xiaoyu> _jason, ok i chage the font and it's ok now ths!!
[02:24] <southern> it was a default install...
[02:24] <broam> mustard5: you are my hero of the hour
[02:24] <thenuke> southern: http://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&q=ubuntu+reboot+grub+error+22&btnG=Hae&meta=
[02:24] <wastrel> nobody loves you and you're going to be alone for the rest of your life
[02:24] <mustard5> southern, it means this...  22 : No such partition
[02:24] <mustard5>     This error is returned if a partition is requested in the device part of a device- or full file name which isn't on the selected disk.
[02:24] <fangorious> constructor is private and has no friends
[02:24] <Arafangion> Is it possible to use sparse files on fat32?
[02:25] <McJerry> broam: do you have a link where you found the post regarding the eth0 problem?
[02:25] <disastorm> anyone know how to find out what parameters an exe passes to another exe (so i can run the second exe with wine)
[02:25] <southern> mustard5 yes I know?
[02:25] <broam> McJerry: Unfortunately I cna't find it...lemme search ubuntu-devel
[02:25] <xiaoyu> _jason, thank you .
[02:25] <southern> but how can I solve it???
[02:25] <mustard5> southern, you used the pastebin before?
[02:25] <wastrel> disastorm:  stack trace  bu i don't know how to do that in 'doze
[02:25] <_jason> xiaoyu: no prob
[02:25] <broam> McJerry: before I go off searching, if you want to start looking yourself
[02:25] <disastorm> o
[02:25] <broam> McJerry: http://archives.free.net.ph/list/ubuntu-devel.en.html
[02:25] <southern> i don't think so
[02:25] <xiaoyu> _jason, is there a program for chat under console
[02:25] <LiteHedded> irssi
[02:25] <_jason> xiaoyu: yeah, irssi
[02:26] <mustard5> !tell southern about pastebin
[02:26] <[Billy] > bimberi my modem is a winmodem :|
[02:26] <thenuke> mustard5: umm, do you think that one can use pastebin if he cannot boot his linux?
[02:26] <jerryv> !firefox1.5
[02:26] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:26] <xiaoyu> _jason, ok lat me have a try
[02:26] <thenuke> mustard5: I mean, if you want him to paste those boot errors :D
[02:26] <_jason> xiaoyu: it should be installed, here is the starter guide: http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup
[02:26] <mustard5> thenuke, well..you might have a point :)
[02:26] <Arafangion> thenuke: One retypes it.
[02:26] <mustard5> thenuke, hehe
[02:26] <bimberi> [Billy] : huh? didn't you say 'usb adsl modem'?
[02:26] <thenuke> Arafangion: exactly, he did it already. grub error 22 :)
[02:26] <mustard5> thenuke, I'm more wanting to see his menu.lst
[02:27] <[Billy] > bimberi: yeah, that is a winmodem :p
[02:27] <Arafangion> mustard5: menu.lst is irrelevant here.
[02:27] <bimberi> [Billy] : eww :|
[02:27] <thenuke> mustard5: mmkay, you might be better of then if you would ask him if he knowa any way to access his linux partitions ;)
[02:27] <navarone> how is a usb modem a software modem?
[02:27] <Arafangion> southern: Do you happen to know what partition your linux is on?
[02:27] <[Billy] > bimberi tell me abou it :'(
[02:28] <southern> ext3
[02:28] <southern> sorry
[02:28] <Arafangion> southern: That's the partition format.
[02:28] <broam> Does anyone know what file I'd alter if I wanted to add or remove a network interface?
[02:28] <Arafangion> southern: That's as good as telling me your floppy is using FAT
[02:28] <kookaburra> <---------ext3
[02:28] <southern> sda1
[02:28] <Nwallins|home> what's a good channel for dvd-video burning?
[02:29] <disastorm> hey wastrel is stack trace only for java?
[02:29] <disastorm> i was just searching on google
[02:29] <navarone> Arafangion, telling your floppy it's fat does nothing for its self esteem...<s>
[02:29] <kookaburra> i have 3 partitions - home - root and boot
[02:29] <Arafangion> southern: Ok, You didn't put /boot into it's own partition, did you?
[02:29] <bimberi> [Billy] : i wish i could :P
[02:29] <Arafangion> navarone: It's definetly flat, and it's certainly not floppy at all! :)
[02:29] <wastrel> disastorm:  stack trace is a general term, strace in linux does it - dunno about java :] 
[02:29] <Arafangion> *fat
[02:29] <Lord-Dark> IrMA Est De ReTouR Ki VeUT k eLlE Lui LiSE L'anVeniR !!
[02:29] <Lord-Dark> TaPer !Femme Si vous tes une Femme Ou !homme ... PouR ConNaTrE Le pRnOm De La pERSonNE Avec QUi VoUs FiNiReZ VoS JouRs ??
[02:29] <[Billy] > bimberi hwhwh
[02:29] <[Billy] > bimberi heheh*
[02:29] <disastorm> o ok
[02:29] <wastrel> disastorm:  it's not just for java programs
[02:30] <_jason> !fr
[02:30] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:30] <Arafangion> southern: Do you have a menu when you boot your computer (To select the OS)
[02:30] <disastorm> i just wanna find one for a .exe program
[02:30] <southern> no
[02:30] <navarone> Arafangion, and only used in emergencies too i take it...lol
[02:30] <kookaburra> oh wait. 4 partitions... home root boot and swap
[02:30] <Arafangion> southern: Does grub load at all?
[02:30] <Lord-Dark> IrMA Est De ReTouR Ki VeUT k eLlE Lui LiSE L'anVeniR !!
[02:30] <Lord-Dark> TaPer !Femme Si vous tes une Femme Ou !homme ... PouR ConNaTrE Le pRnOm De La pERSonNE Avec QUi VoUs FiNiReZ VoS JouRs ??
[02:30] <southern> grub 1.5 load and type this: error 22
[02:31] <wastrel> mmm french spam
[02:31] <wastrel> it has bernaise sauce on it
[02:31] <jerryv> _wastrel thanks again
[02:31] <Nwallins|home> jambon synthetique
[02:31] <Arafangion> southern: Instantly, or after a pause?  You are unable to enter the grub shell by hitting 'c'?
[02:31] <navarone> you'd think he'd be in  a -*fr channel too
[02:32] <Arafangion> navarone: Actually I think that that's irrelevant.
[02:32] <navarone> Arafangion, what is?
[02:32] <southern> Arafangion: Yes I unable to edit grub ...
[02:32] <Arafangion> southern: No.  grub is itself an Operating System, which happens to boot other OS's.
[02:32] <Arafangion> southern: Unlike lilo, grub actually has a shell, etc.
[02:33] <TonyB2006> what packages would i install to have GNOME in a usable state
[02:33] <_jason> TonyB2006: ubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <TonyB2006> k
[02:33] <TonyB2006> thanks
[02:34] <TonyB2006> woo, alot of packages, perfect.
[02:34] <broam> McJerry: I FOUND IT
[02:34] <southern> GRUB Loading stag1.5
[02:34] <xiaoyu> _jason, how to connect with . you know it will take me a long time to read the howto
[02:34] <southern> GRUB loading, pleae wait...
[02:34] <southern> Error22
[02:34] <MAB> :(
[02:34] <TonyB2006> i think thats..it cant mount boot partition
[02:34] <TonyB2006> not sure though
[02:34] <southern> Arafangion: thats all
[02:34] <jimcooncat> If you don't have x.org set up right, can Ctrl-Alt-NumpadMinus be a problem?
[02:35] <_jason> xiaoyu: it has some networks already setup, so you can just do '/connect freenode' then to join a channel '/join #ubuntu'
[02:35] <McJerry> broam: i have only found general info on the subject. but not a fix...what you got?
[02:35] <TonyB2006> um, it wont let me switch to a VT from X...
[02:35] <broam> McJerry: Look at /etc/network/interfaces
[02:35] <TonyB2006> why cant i switch to a VT?
[02:35] <broam> McJerry: You shouldn't need to pastebin it, but you can
[02:35] <broam> McJerry: eth0 might be listed twice
[02:35] <dooglus> TonyB2006: I've got the same problem.
[02:35] <TonyB2006> i tried ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:35] <matt3> TonyB2006: ctrl + alt + fkey
[02:35] <TonyB2006> but gdm is persistant
[02:36] <TonyB2006> matt3: wont let me switch
[02:36] <mustard5> jimcooncat, I don't even know what Ctrl + alt + numpadminus does.  What's its function?
[02:36] <TonyB2006> matt3: i press that, alot, and NOTHING HAPPENS
[02:36] <dooglus> matt3: ctrol + alt + Fkey doesn't do anything for me
[02:36] <McJerry> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:36] <McJerry> auto eth0
[02:36] <Arafangion> southern: Well, you will need to reinstall grub, at the very least.
[02:36] <wastrel> TonyB2006:  how about /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:36] <McJerry> broam: check above
[02:36] <Arafangion> southern: I wish I could help, but I have to head off now.
[02:36] <southern> how?
[02:36] <jimcooncat> mustard5, supposed to change resolution
[02:36] <Arafangion> southern: You will need your live cd.
[02:36] <broam> McJerry: how far up?
[02:36] <mustard5> jimcooncat, k
[02:36] <TonyB2006> wastrel: the main problem with that is i dont have a console to work with, forgot to install xterm :D
[02:36] <matt3> TonyB2006: what about ctrl+alt + left arrow/right arrow?
[02:37] <dooglus> matt3: that switches workspaces
[02:37] <McJerry> broam: 7 or 8 lines back
[02:37] <jack|ass> So if I need to have iwpriv throw a command at my wireless card (authmode 2) before it'll work, is there a way to put that in /etc/network/interfaces like I can with iwconfig commands?
[02:37] <wastrel> TonyB2006:  er heh.  aren't a bunch of consles installed by default?
[02:37] <xiaoyu__> _jason: ok now
[02:37] <matt3> dooglus: not for me :)
[02:37] <McJerry> broam: can you pm?
[02:37] <TonyB2006> wastrel: server install, LONG STORY, PLEASE DONT ASK
[02:37] <broam> McJerry: I can.  Check your PM's ;)
[02:37] <theplateau> anyone know about setting up ipv6 behind nat
[02:37] <broam> McJerry: Hmm.
[02:37] <dooglus> matt3: oh?  what does it do for you?
[02:37] <Mantice> Its me im back :)
[02:37] <wastrel> TonyB2006:  tell grub not to start x?
[02:37] <broam> McJerry: looking at it...(sorry, so much traffic that if it's not got my name in front of it, I miss it)
[02:37] <mustard5> Arafangion, since its a new install, could he just try a reinstall again?
[02:37] <_jason> xiaoyu__: that's it, after that you are in the channel
[02:38] <Silivrenion> In the /etc/fstab line are listed drives in the system. At the end of each line are two numbers. What are these numbers?
[02:38] <TonyB2006> wastrel: its ok, i did Single User Mode (recovery mode)
[02:38] <wastrel> TonyB2006:  how about ssh?  can you ssh in from another box?
[02:38] <Mantice> Is it possable to install ubuntu on a USB hard drive?
[02:38] <xiaoyu__> _jason: can i have the window splitted like xchat
[02:38] <TonyB2006> wastrel: its ok, i did Single User Mode (recovery mode)
[02:38] <matt3> dooglus: what window manager are you using? for me its the equivalent of forward one VT or back a VT
[02:38] <Arafangion> mustard5: My take is generally that if he just installed, it broke, a reinstall will generally result in the same situation.
[02:38] <broam> McJerry: Hmm...I have those in the opposite order
[02:38] <wastrel> boogie
[02:38] <mustard5> Arafangion, k
[02:38] <McJerry> broam: what kernel you running?
[02:38] <broam> McJerry: 2.6.15-16-k7
[02:39] <Arafangion> mustard5: I do find it very unusual that he can't access the grub shell.
[02:39] <_jason> xiaoyu__: yes, you can split windows but you'll have to read about it, you have to play with it a bit to understand http://f0rked.com/articles/irssisplit
[02:39] <Silivrenion> In the /etc/fstab line are listed drives in the system. At the end of each line are two numbers. What are these numbers?  (Example: /dev/hda3 /       ext3    defaults   0 1)
[02:39] <broam> McJerry: btw, man interfaces seems to be of use here
[02:39] <wastrel> Silivrenion:  man fstab  :] 
[02:39] <McJerry> broam: i am kernel 2.6.15-15-386
[02:39] <nickrud> Silivrenion, they have to do with backups; see man dump
[02:40] <Angel_Dex> hello all
[02:40] <broam> McJerry: I think I got that kernel to work after a fresh install, so it's probably not kernel
[02:40] <Arafangion> mustard5: I could blow my linux altogether, and still be able to access my grub shell.
[02:40] <mustard5> Arafangion, :)
[02:40] <Angel_Dex> How Do i add wine as a handler for Windows .exe's?
[02:40] <xiaoyu> _jason, how can you type those url so quikly
[02:40] <McJerry> broam: i will swap the lines in my /etc/network/interfaces and see if helps
[02:41] <theplateau> anyone know about setting up ipv6
[02:41] <broam> McJerry: is there a 'mapping eth0' line in that etc/network/interfaces?
[02:41] <_jason> xiaoyu: I typed 'guide to split windows' in google
[02:41] <broam> McJerry: If you'd like I can pastebin mine and you can see it
[02:41] <KARINITA> OAS
[02:42] <McJerry> broam: there is no mapping line....it is same as it has always been here
[02:42] <mike> tried to install ubuntu on someone's laptop but it was all garbled and I couldn't see anything...what's next?
[02:42] <muthym> hello!how will i play mp3 file here in ubuntu?
[02:42] <_jason> !mp3
[02:42] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:42] <broam> McJerry: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9089
[02:42] <nickrud> muthym, try typing !mp3
[02:42] <xiaoyu> _jason, under console?
[02:42] <muthym> ok thanks
[02:42] <whyami> is there a way I can disable my touchpad but NOT disable the trackpoint on my laptop?
[02:43] <_jason> xiaoyu: nope, firefox
[02:43] <Mantice> can you install ubuntu on a usb drive?
[02:44] <mustard5> Mantice, I've seen a how to somewhere...but I don't how myself
[02:44] <broam> Mantice: Yes.  your second question ("how"), I have not tried it so am not qualified to answer
[02:44] <broam> mustard5: wasn't it on the devel list?
[02:44] <mustard5> broam, possibly
[02:44] <nm> mantice: if you have a big enough flash drive you can copy the livecd version over, and change the init scripts accordingly
[02:44] <bimberi> mike: do you mean the installer was garbled? - try some of the special boot options
[02:44] <B_166-ER-X> Does anyone here Have an ipod Shuffle ?
[02:44] <mustard5> Mantice, search via google might help...its out there somewhere :)
[02:44] <nm> mantice: you can install almost any linux small enough onto a usb flash drive, and then make it bootable with syslinux
[02:44] <Mantice> :)
[02:44] <Denyerec> Anyone here managed to set up Trac on Ubuntu ?
[02:44] <Mantice> Its not a flash drive BTW
[02:45] <Mantice> Its a normal seagate 40 gb hard drive
[02:45] <nm> lol
[02:45] <Mantice> ide
[02:45] <B_166-ER-X> !ipod
[02:45] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[02:45] <Denyerec> !trac
[02:45] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Denyerec
[02:45] <mustard5> Mantice, ah ok
[02:45] <Mantice> connected to usb converter
[02:45] <broam> Mantice: Can you boot off of it with your motherboard?
[02:45] <Mantice> think so
[02:45] <Mantice> usb boot
[02:46] <billytwowilly> how do I resize an ntfs partition to use space located in front of it? gparted won't let me do it.
[02:46] <nm> billytwowilly: is your name from the air farce skit?
[02:46] <nm> cuz thats awesome
[02:46] <nickrud> !usb
[02:46] <ubotu> nickrud: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:46] <billytwowilly> nm, yes it is.
[02:46] <Mantice> You thing that there will be a major speed decrease
[02:46] <nm> hahah
[02:46] <r0d> billytwowilly, you have to use partition magic in windoze
[02:46] <Mantice> think*
[02:47] <billytwowilly> nm, you're the second person in ~8 years to get that.
[02:47] <billytwowilly> r0d, I have partition magic but it won't let me do it either.
[02:47] <nickrud> Mantice, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 maybe
[02:47] <billytwowilly> r0d, I only have a windows c drive.
[02:47] <r0d> billy do you have dynamic disk enabled?
[02:47] <mike> bimberli: could see the initial startup text, but nothing after that.
[02:47] <billytwowilly> dynamic disk?
[02:47] <r0d> yea, basic disk and dynamic disks are options
[02:47] <nm> billytwowilly: if you right click your 'my computer' and click manage
[02:47] <nm> you can use the disk manager in that mmc
[02:47] <mustard5> nickrud, thats the thread I was thinking of  :)
[02:48] <nm> to convert your disk to 'dynamic disk'
[02:48] <billytwowilly> nm, in windows? ok. I'll give that a try.
[02:48] <Falstius> is there a good guide for setting up postfix on ubuntu?  I have it mostly done but the permissions are screwed up and I don't want to do something insecure.
[02:48] <r0d> billytwowilly, no!
[02:48] <NickGarvey> I am reading a tutorial that says "Modify your system init script to check quota and turn quota on at boot  time" but I'm not sure what script it is talking about
[02:48] <nm> but, you won't be able to resize your boot partition
[02:48] <broam> Mantice: It may, however it probably beats a CD
[02:48] <Fujitsu> No.
[02:48] <nickrud> mustard5, thank ubotu, and cafuego's nicely searchable http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:48] <bimberi> mike: so no 'boot:' prompt?
[02:48] <r0d> billytwowilly, if it is dynamic, partition magic cant be used
[02:48] <Fujitsu> You should definitely not convert to Dynamic Disk!
[02:48] <nm> billytwowilly: i don't recommend it, because you can't resize your boot partition
[02:48] <billytwowilly> heh.
[02:48] <nm> or install linux on the same drive
[02:48] <nm> but if you don't need to do either of those things
[02:48] <Fujitsu> That will remove possibility of installing Linux on the same drive.
[02:48] <nm> dynamic disk is the way to go
[02:48] <billytwowilly> linux is already on the same drive.
[02:49] <mike> Bimberly: yes I get a boot prompt...what options are you refering to?
[02:49] <nm> grub can't boot from windows dynamic volumes
[02:49] <nm> heh
[02:49] <r0d> billytwowilly, do you get error messages when u try to resize?
[02:49] <nm> so you definitely don't want to do that then
[02:49] <r0d> you have to run error checking first before you resize. you right click on the drive(c:) and go to properties, tools
[02:49] <billytwowilly> r0d, yah, tells me I can't resize the partition it is on, which is a real kick in the pants because whne I used partition magic 4 revisions ago it could do that...
[02:49] <bimberi> mike: if you press F1 should be able to browse through them
[02:50] <billytwowilly> ok, I'm in windows now..
[02:50] <mike> Bimberly: Ah, is there anything specific I should look for?
[02:50] <nuambenzina> hello, ubuntu make automatic update for kernel?
[02:50] <r0d> billytwowilly, do those steps
[02:50] <nickrud> nuambenzina, yes, it will.
[02:50] <broam> nuambenzina: You should be able to update your kernel using the package managers
[02:51] <ProfessorChaos> anyone in here know the path to the mesa libs in dapper?
[02:51] <xiaoyu__> _jason: do you use tex
[02:51] <nickrud> broam, linux-image
[02:51] <billytwowilly> r0d, the erros is "program is running from that partition. Either run from a floppy (it's a laptop, no floppy) or another partition"
[02:51] <nuambenzina> so that means that I don`t even need to compile it ?
[02:51] <broam> nuambenzina: correct
[02:51] <broam> nuambenzina: You can still compile your kernel if you need to, but for the most part you shouldn't have to
[02:51] <r0d> billytwowilly, what version of partition magic?
[02:51] <nickrud> nuambenzina, absolut-dam-tutley, it's one of the real benefits of ubuntu
[02:51] <nuambenzina> oky... :) 10q
[02:52] <r0d> billytwowilly, I know in 8(on XP) it will restart your computer so it can run
[02:52] <broam> nuambenzina: update the linux-image package
[02:52] <billytwowilly> r0d, 8.0
[02:52] <bimberi> mike: 'install vga=771'  looks promising
[02:52] <_jason> xiaoyu__: I use latex
[02:52] <r0d> billytwowilly, thats weird
[02:52] <Slackwise> I'm stumped :(
[02:52] <Slackwise> livecd / # df -h
[02:52] <Slackwise> df: cannot read table of mounted filesystems: No such file or directory
[02:52] <r0d> billytwowilly, windows xp?
[02:52] <Slackwise> fstab is fine though...
[02:52] <xiaoyu__> _jason: how did you setup the ide
[02:52] <billytwowilly> r0d, yep.
[02:52] <billytwowilly> sp2
[02:53] <Denyerec> Anyone here managed to set up Trac 9.4 on Ubuntu ?
[02:53] <mike> bimberli: thx! I'll try that when I see them next. :)
[02:53] <xiaoyu__> _jason: or you do not use ide
[02:53] <Slackwise> /dev/hda2               /               reiserfs        noatime         0 1
[02:53] <Slackwise> /dev/hda1               none            swap            sw              0 0
[02:53] <nickrud> Slackwise, what does /etc/mtab say?
[02:53] <Falstius> Slackwise: check mtab
[02:53] <_jason> xiaoyu__: I just use vim with vim-latexsuite
[02:53] <bimberi> mike: np :)
[02:53] <Slackwise> Thanks.
[02:53] <broam> okay kids, I'm off
[02:53] <broam> later
[02:53] <Slackwise> Nothing in mtab :P
[02:53] <nickrud> kids?
[02:53] <xiaoyu__> _jason: what is vim-latexsuite
[02:53] <r0d> billytwowilly, that is a new one. all I do is error-check, then it restarts. don't know what to tell ya;(
[02:53] <Slackwise> Falstius, nickrud: Guess I need something in mtab, eh? :P
[02:54] <_jason> xiaoyu__: sets up some nice keybinds and such for latex in vim
[02:54] <billytwowilly> r0d, you do this on the C: drive?
[02:54] <nuambenzina> "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda4". " so that mean that i have to edit /etc/fstab ? (i`ts ntfs, win partition)
[02:54] <r0d> yea billytwowilly. partition magic restarts computer and does it before windows loads fully
[02:54] <nickrud> Slackwise, mtab is the master list of what linux sees as mounted; if you have no /etc/mtab, you are in difficult terrain
[02:54] <sapo> hi all, i updated my dapper and now my gnome-panel isnt working, so when i enter gnome i cant do anything besides opening nautilus, is there a way to fix this? right now i m at open box cause i cant open anything in gnome :(
[02:55] <billytwowilly> r0d, I'm gonna make a tiny partition, install pm8 there and try it.
[02:55] <sapo> it just crashes every time i enter gnome :(
[02:55] <nickrud> sapo, I have the same issue; I'm just waiting
[02:55] <billytwowilly> hmm. I should have made the partition in linux. gparted is faster;)
[02:55] <r0d> billytwowilly, sounds like a plan. it will still make you reboot if it works because C: is actively being used. Goodluck!
[02:55] <_jason> sapo: did you see if it happens with a new user?
[02:55] <sapo> _jason, no, i ll try it.. brb
[02:55] <Slackwise> nickrud: Thanks, I copied it from the livecd. I'll work with it from there. Totally forgot about mtab. :P
[02:55] <CuriousCat> would anyone here know how to correctly copy a bootable CD? I'm trying to make a copy of a Kubuntu install (CD to CD) using mkisofs and cdrecord, but the copy isn't bootable.
[02:56] <southern> what is the default root password????
[02:57] <southern> I installed ubuntu but what is root pass?
[02:57] <nickrud> CuriousCat, I'd just dd if=/dev/cdrom of=my.iso ; then right click it in the file manager and write to disk
[02:57] <Fujitsu> !root
[02:57] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:57] <RememberPOL> southern: root pass is the same as your user pass
[02:57] <RememberPOL> Has anybody successfully got sound working in Quake 3?
[02:57] <nickrud> southern, there is no root password, http:/wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:57] <Keyseir> Is there a program I can use to easily break an avi file into two parts?
[02:57] <xiaoyu__> _jason: i installed that how to configure that
[02:57] <wastrel> i had mac & cheese for dinner and some biscuits.
[02:57] <wastrel> mmm carbs
[02:58] <kethinov> anyone know of a tool i can use to find and remove uneeded dependencies / libs from my system?
[02:58] <nickrud> wastrel, you running a marathon tomorrow?
[02:58] <sapo> _jason, i m with a new user and the panel works..
[02:58] <wastrel> no
[02:58] <sapo> how do i reset the gnome panel config?
[02:58] <nickrud> kethinov, deborphan
[02:58] <odla> kethinov: debfoster, deborphan
[02:59] <AUCI> anyone here?
[02:59] <odla> AUCI: no
[02:59] <nickrud> AUCI, no
[02:59] <AUCI> lol
[02:59] <nickrud> lol, late
[02:59] <Fujitsu> No, nobody.
[02:59] <_jason> xiaoyu__: no configuring should be needed, you just open a latex file with it and learn how to use it :)  If you use it with gvim, you'll get a nice set of menus
[02:59] <jimcooncat> AUCI, anyone who's anyone
[02:59] <odla> nickrud: wow we're thinking the same tonight
[02:59] <Keyseir> Is there a program I can easily install on ubuntu that will break video files into parts?
[02:59] <AUCI> Hey I just installedunbutu and i mess it up real bad,
[02:59] <nickrud> odla, I'm cruisin', that's all
[02:59] <Fujitsu> How?
[02:59] <odla> AUCI: how?
[02:59] <nickrud> AUCI, no mess just fix :)
[03:00] <_jason> xiaoyu__: another one for you: http://vim-latex.sourceforge.net/documentation/latex-suite-quickstart/ :)
[03:00] <AUCI> I wanted to use nvidia drivers and now a get a blue creeen telling me that x servers somenhing
[03:00] <xiaoyu__> _jason: no grammer highlight?
[03:00] <_jason> xiaoyu__: :syntax on
[03:00] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[03:00] <Fujitsu> OK.
[03:00] <qtga> i do lsmod, how do i determine would module my ethernet card is? ieeee1394 ?
[03:00] <Fujitsu> AUCI, what video card?
[03:00] <AUCI> is there a way to recuperate?
[03:00] <AUCI> Nvidia 6800
[03:01] <nickrud> AUCI, please post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://ubuntu-nl.org
[03:01] <Fujitsu> Yes, that would be a help
[03:01] <xiaoyu__> _jason: you use console and X at the same time or xterm to start irssi
[03:01] <AUCI> do i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[03:01] <nickrud> AUCI, someone will recognize your problem
[03:01] <wastrel> nickrud:  that's not pastebin :] 
[03:01] <_jason> xiaoyu__: I just use gnome-terminal
[03:01] <NickGarvey> where is the boot script for ubuntu?
[03:01] <qtga> anyone?
[03:02] <nickrud> wastrel, heh, you're right, I left out the essence
[03:02] <nickrud> AUCI, I meant paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:03] <Silivrenion> ln -s /boot/grub/grub.conf /boot/grub/menu.lst :: which one is the source, and which one is the link?
[03:03] <flugh> hrm, sorry if this has been covered, but where'd my /etc/ld.so.conf go? gotta add /usr/local/lib to my lib path :)
[03:03] <AUCI> Just to let everyone aware that im a newbie on linux I just installed it yesterday, everything was going fine until i decided to change some stupid drivers.
[03:03] <nickrud> NickGarvey, it begins with the scripts in /etc/rcS.d, then continues thru /etc/rc2.d
[03:03] <xiaoyu__> _jason: i see. what is your native lang
[03:04] <_jason> xiaoyu__: english and portuguese
[03:04] <NickGarvey> alright, thankyou
[03:04] <xiaoyu__> _jason: i see. how to set locale
[03:04] <nickrud> Silivrenion, /boot/grub/grub.conf does not exist in ubuntu; only menu.lst
[03:04] <AUCI> just 1 last question... is there a repair option on Ubuntu?
[03:05] <flugh> sorry, looks like my ld.so.conf simply got eaten. got a backup. thought something new and improved may have replaced it
[03:05] <odla> i have the gstreamer-mad plugin for rhythmbox but i still can't get it to play mp3s
[03:05] <_jason> xiaoyu__: system > administration > language selector
[03:05] <nickrud> AUCI, dapper has a repair function, I haven't looked at it much, but breezy uses a recovery system
[03:05] <NickGarvey> so should I add a script? I am trynig to get quota to start on boot
[03:05] <AUCI> and.....how do i use that?
[03:05] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  update-rc.d  maybe?
[03:06] <NickGarvey> wastrel: whats that do
[03:06] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  manages init stuff
[03:06] <nickrud> AUCI, boot into recovery mode,
[03:06] <NickGarvey> okie
[03:06] <NickGarvey> thanks
[03:06] <AUCI> thanks
[03:06] <xiaoyu__> _jason: no i set my lang=zh_cn.utf8 and latex do not work correctly
[03:06] <nickrud> AUCI, it shoudl be sufficient
[03:06] <_jason> xiaoyu__: oh, that I don't know
[03:07] <AUCI> I did that, but after that, i get cursor.... like waiting for a command
[03:07] <nickrud> xiaoyu__, try using uppercase for LANG
[03:07] <LiteHedded> man i wish my sound worked
[03:07] <LiteHedded> that would be awesome!
[03:07] <xiaoyu__> _jason: how to chage vi saved file's codepage
[03:08] <xiaoyu__> nickrud: no i do not mean that
[03:08] <hawaii101> LiteHedded: did you unmute alsa?
[03:08] <LiteHedded> hawaii101 yes
[03:08] <RememberPOL> Does anybody play Quake 3?
[03:08] <NickGarvey> yeah wastrel thats way over my head
[03:08] <disasm> LiteHedded: what seems to be the problem with sound?
[03:08] <LiteHedded> not working :)
[03:08] <LiteHedded> not sure how to explain better than that
[03:08] <nickrud> xiaoyu__, ok, that was an obvious call; I had no clue if t was really correct ;
[03:09] <Mr_Eko> how on earth do i install a font?
[03:09] <disasm> LiteHedded: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp any static sound?
[03:09] <xiaoyu__> nickrud: if i save file th GBK it will be ok but if it is utf8 chinese font don't display in pdf
[03:09] <hawaii101> LiteHedded: try this at the command line type dmesg | grep +1 alsa and see what comes up
[03:09] <jjjjjjj> ubotu!
[03:09] <_jason> xiaoyu__: what do you mean?
[03:09] <xiaoyu__> _jason: if i save file th GBK it will be ok but if it is utf8 chinese font don't display in pdf
[03:10] <_jason> xiaoyu__: try #vim
[03:10] <LiteHedded> brian@sager:/usr/src$ cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[03:10] <LiteHedded> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:10] <nickrud> xiaoyu__, ah. Non-european fonts, so, I'll just shut up and hopefully learn
[03:10] <hawaii101> LiteHedded: it should show what device is talking to alsa
[03:10] <wastrel> grep +1 ?
[03:10] <hawaii101> doh
[03:10] <disasm> LiteHedded: what about sudo before that?
[03:10] <hawaii101> dmesg | grep +a1 ALSA
[03:10] <hawaii101> that is the command
[03:10] <xiaoyu__> _jason: how to make vi to save file in GBK or GB2312
[03:10] <LiteHedded> brian@sager:/usr/src$ dmesg | grep +1 alsa
[03:10] <LiteHedded> grep: alsa: No such file or directory
[03:11] <nickrud> LiteHedded, lsof | grep /dev/dsp will tell you what has dsp occupied
[03:11] <xiaoyu__> nickrud: thank you all the same
[03:11] <xiaoyu__> nickrud: do you know how to do that
[03:11] <LiteHedded> brian@sager:/usr/src$ lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[03:11] <LiteHedded> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev Output information may be incomplete.
[03:11] <xerophyte> I am trying to make directory of programmers .. i need a domain for it .. is this name sounds good http://www.directoryofprogrammers.com/ ???
[03:11] <hawaii101> sorry LiteHedded "dmesg | grep +a1 ALSA" is the command
[03:11] <disasm> LiteHedded: try running sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[03:12] <Silivrenion> aaahhhhhhhhh i'm confused
[03:12] <Silivrenion> the guide is telling me to do these commands
[03:12] <Silivrenion> apt-get install grub
[03:12] <Silivrenion> # mkdir /boot/grub
[03:12] <Silivrenion> # cp /lib/grub/i386-pc/* /boot/grub
[03:12] <Silivrenion> # nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
[03:12] <LiteHedded> brian@sager:/usr/src$ dmesg | grep +a1 ALSA
[03:12] <LiteHedded> grep: ALSA: No such file or directory
[03:12] <nickrud> xiaoyu__, no, I really don't. I have got fonts working here and there for me, but yours is hopefully soon to be obvious :)
[03:12] <LiteHedded> brian@sager:/usr/src$ sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[03:12] <LiteHedded> bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[03:12] <Silivrenion> but theres nothing in grub.conf
[03:12] <Silivrenion> so why am I being told to edit grub.conf?
[03:12] <hawaii101> doesn't appear to be in the kernel LiteHedded
[03:13] <Silivrenion> >.<
[03:13] <LiteHedded> that's odd
[03:13] <nickrud> Silivrenion, /boot/grub/menu.lst <-- edit that
[03:13] <LiteHedded> how do I get it in there?
[03:13] <Silivrenion> theres nothing in there either
[03:13] <disasm> LiteHedded: run alsamixer does it come up?
[03:13] <Silivrenion> i'll assume its an error
[03:13] <LiteHedded> yes
[03:13] <TuxOtaku> yeah, umm my ubuntu install is severely screwed...
[03:13] <LiteHedded> but no alsaconf
[03:13] <disasm> LiteHedded: if it does, whats the card and chip?
[03:13] <Silivrenion> Whoever has access to the wiki, you can fix that... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix
[03:13] <nickrud> Silivrenion, yes there is, /boot/grub/menu.lst <-- that one
[03:14] <vhaarr> lspci says "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)", should I be using nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy?
[03:14] <LiteHedded> ard: Intel ICH5                                                                                                                        
[03:14] <LiteHedded>  Chip: Realtek ALC202 rev 0
[03:14] <Silivrenion> nickrud :: yah, i just need to add information to the menu.lst file since it has nothing in it
[03:14] <xiaoyu__> any one use zhcon
[03:14] <mrkris> so who here uses user-mode-linux :)
[03:14] <xiaoyu__> is there any one use zhcon
[03:14] <TuxOtaku> i try to log in, and it says "your $home/.dmrc file does not have the correct permissions
[03:14] <disasm> mrkris: i messed with it once a while back, thats the one that lets you run a different kernel without rebooting, right?
[03:14] <mrkris> disasm correct
[03:15] <slide> For some reason synptic wont upgrade some packages hal, hal-device-manager, libhal-storage1, libhal1, serpentine. Its the auto update thing thats complaining, any ideas why?
[03:15] <LiteHedded> any ideas?
[03:15] <hawaii101> vhaarr: I think that it is not a legacy card but you might ask in #nvidia
[03:15] <mrkris> disasm: I'm looking for a cheap VPS solution
[03:15] <nickrud> Silivrenion, ah, after looking at that page, it was obviously written by an ex-fedora type
[03:15] <vhaarr> hawaii101: Thanks
[03:15] <TuxOtaku> it kicks me off and even if i run a failsafe console, i cannot access my network
[03:15] <odla> hrmm...rhythmbox is only recognizing flac format not mp3
[03:15] <disasm> mrkris: VPS?
[03:15] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  chmod 600 ~/.dmrc
[03:15] <hawaii101> LiteHedded: try this "cd /usr/src/linux" and type "grep Sound .config"
[03:16] <LiteHedded> /usr/src is empty
[03:16] <TuxOtaku> and that will fix the network problems too?
[03:16] <nickrud> odla, sudo apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mad
[03:16] <mrkris> disasm: virtual private server
[03:16] <hawaii101> see if you get a line saying Config_Sound=Yes
[03:16] <disasm> mrkris: ah, ok
[03:16] <hawaii101> arg
[03:16] <YogSothoth> Hi !
[03:16] <mrkris> disasm: basically, to allow people a virtual server without mucking with the host filesystem/resources/etc
[03:16] <YogSothoth> Is there a way to tell rsync to set special chown for files it touches?
[03:16] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  i dunno.  have you had network up before?
[03:16] <hawaii101> so ubuntu doesn't save the kernel source?
[03:16] <LiteHedded> hawaii101 there is no linux subdir in /usr/src
[03:16] <Silivrenion> nickrud :: Ubuntu will be on sda2 in the system. what do I put for root (hdx,y) ?
[03:16] <TuxOtaku> yeah
[03:16] <disasm> LiteHedded: does the module show up in lsmod?
[03:16] <hawaii101> what is in /usr/src?
[03:17] <LiteHedded> what module name should I grep for?
[03:17] <disasm> hawaii101: you can apt-get install it if you want
[03:17] <LiteHedded> nothing hawaii101
[03:17] <LiteHedded> empty
[03:17] <disasm> hawaii101: you need to install the headers as well, they aren't default
[03:17] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  i don't know whether or not the network is configured in the rescue mode see if you can fix this desktop problem and then work on that if necessary
[03:17] <thenuke> LiteHedded: useless answers :( you should tell him what could be in there
[03:17] <nickrud> Silivrenion, a guess would be useless here, I don't use scsii
[03:17] <ivo_> Hi how to i instal a music player plz help me
[03:18] <LiteHedded> thenuke I don't follow you
[03:18] <xiaoyu__> _jason: do you know how to set firefox to open webpage in new tab but not new window when click a link
[03:18] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  ls -l ~/.dmrc should look like this   -rw-------  1 wastrel wastrel 26 2005-01-14 01:50 .dmrc
[03:18] <TuxOtaku> ah
[03:18] <mrkris> disasm: i was gonna try UML under ubuntu except it requires 2.6.8 sources, which don't exist in the repos
[03:18] <NickGarvey> ivo_: did you download it already?
[03:18] <hawaii101> ivo_: apt-get install xmms
[03:18] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  with your user ID instead of wastrel
[03:18] <_jason> xiaoyu__: it's somewhere in the preferences
[03:18] <TuxOtaku> see...here's how this all started, fyi....
[03:18] <nickrud> Silivrenion, but, don't forget to create the link between /boot/grub/grub.conf and /boot/grub/menu.lst as mentioned in that howto; that should get you along
[03:18] <Silivrenion> k
[03:19] <LiteHedded> what should I look for in lsmod?
[03:19] <hawaii101> sorry LiteHedded I am out of ideas. basically it appears that you didn't configure Advanced Linux Sound into your kernel. I could be wrong though
[03:19] <ivo_> i write the apt-get install xmms :E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:19] <ivo_> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:19] <wastrel> ivo_:  sudo
[03:19] <ivo_> ohh
[03:19] <TuxOtaku> i recently installed Slackware 10.2 on another drive. after the install, i wanted to listen to some music...but my music is stored on the drive holding ubuntu
[03:19] <mustard5> ivo_, put sudo in front of the command
[03:19] <nickrud> ivo_, either, you did not use sudo, or you have another apt open
[03:19] <xiaoyu__> _jason: i have looked for that but did not solve
[03:20] <TuxOtaku> so i didn't have permission to view it
[03:20] <TuxOtaku> so i did a chown -R on that drive
[03:20] <_jason> xiaoyu__: you didn't find the option? or you checked the option and it didn't work?
[03:20] <hawaii101> TuxOtaku: create a new mount point in the /mnt directory
[03:20] <TuxOtaku> yeah
[03:20] <TuxOtaku> i did...but i was stupid and feeling lazy
[03:20] <xiaoyu__> _jason: i didn't find the option
[03:20] <wastrel> k i don't know if that's salvagable
[03:20] <hawaii101> and then sudo mount /dev/hd"the partition your music is on" /mnt/"the point you created"
[03:20] <_jason> xiaoyu__: firefox version that came with ubuntu right?
[03:20] <TuxOtaku> so i did chown -R TuxOtaku /mnt
[03:21] <ivo_> I got this  xmms: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[03:21] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, look at the group that owns the music you want to play; add that group to yourself
[03:21] <ivo_>         Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed
[03:21] <ivo_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:21] <ivo_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:21] <xiaoyu__> _jason: yes
[03:21] <ivo_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:21] <ivo_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:21] <_jason> ivo_: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:21] <ivo_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:21] <ivo_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:21] <ivo_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:21] <ivo_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-ba
[03:21] <nickrud> ivo_, no pasting, please, and all those repos are dead
[03:21] <Mantice> no foloodin
[03:21] <ivo_> i wery bad know english plz help : )
[03:21] <slide> wtf
[03:21] <seth> oh zoy
[03:21] <aeon17x> ivo_: don't paste here
[03:21] <binarydigit> jeese
[03:21] <ivo_> ok
[03:21] <nickrud> ivo_, those repos are dead
[03:21] <Mantice> ......................Dont please
[03:21] <TuxOtaku> see, the weird part is this...my user name on both slack and ubu are the same, and yet all these problems are happening
[03:22] <ivo_> and whats is meane?
[03:22] <Mantice> Any one give me tips on what soldering iron i should buy?
[03:22] <Mantice> http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/43fbcaaa04d4e7fe2741c0a87f990770/Export/catalogs/CTG0000367
[03:22] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  uid is the numerical user number in /etc/passwd  they were probably different.
[03:22] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, the names are nice, but the numbers associated with those names are what matters
[03:22] <TuxOtaku> ahhh
[03:22] <TuxOtaku> learn something new every day
[03:22] <TuxOtaku> ^_^
[03:23] <LiteHedded> maybe someone can walk me through installing alsa?
[03:23] <wastrel> ivo_:  what language do you speak?
[03:23] <ivo_> nickrud can u write for me a comand where i can download any music player plz ?
[03:23] <ivo_> I speak in latvian
[03:23] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, ls /etc/group and ls /etc/passwd, those are the numbers that matter
[03:23] <_jason> xiaoyu__: type 'about:config' in firefox url bar, then enter 'tab' in filter.  Look for something about preferences and make it true.  Then check your preferences again
[03:23] <wastrel> i don't imagine there's a latvian channel
[03:23] <nickrud> ivo_, sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[03:24] <TuxOtaku> so, can i log back into slack and do this?
[03:24] <xiaoyu__> _jason: ok
[03:24] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  every file on your ubuntu system is messed up
[03:24] <harritj> Mantice Cat No. T2200 would cover you well
[03:24] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, you need to match the user numbers to the names in *each* operating system
[03:24] <wastrel> nickrud:  he chowned his whole ubuntu install
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Oh dear.
[03:24] <ivo_> ohh shit
[03:24] <TuxOtaku> -_-;;
[03:24] <Fujitsu> This is not a good thing.
[03:24] <ivo_> i got this
[03:25] <ivo_> Couldn't stat source package
[03:25] <nickrud> wastrel, well, ugh. TuxOtaku is that true?
[03:25] <ivo_> whats is meane ? : )
[03:25] <TuxOtaku> yes
[03:25] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  you were mounted on / , not /home ?
[03:25] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, screwed, if true
[03:25] <ruby123> TuxOtaku: ^_^
[03:25] <Fujitsu> Oh dear.
[03:25] <deang> what's the trick to getting the onscreen keyboard to launch?
[03:25] <nickrud> ivo_, you need to enable the universe repository
[03:25] <Fujitsu> Might just have to back up /home and reinstall...
[03:25] <TuxOtaku> how do i find the uid for my ubuntu user?
[03:25] <nickrud> !tell ivo about universe
[03:26] <_jason> TuxOtaku: 'id' command
[03:26] <ivo_> How to enable?
[03:26] <Fujitsu> id
[03:26] <IdleOne> whats the command to untar a .tar.gz file?
[03:26] <TuxOtaku> k, 'cos i'm on an ubu live session right now
[03:26] <nickrud> ivo_, you should have a message from ubotu telling you how
[03:26] <Fujitsu> tar zxf <filename> IdleOne.
[03:26] <IdleOne> thank you
[03:26] <Fujitsu> *<filename>, IdleOne.
[03:27] <ivo_> Mhhh i wery stupid i don"t getit :)
[03:27] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, if it's just the music you've screwed with, it's not tragic
[03:27] <TuxOtaku> no
[03:27] <wastrel> TuxOtaku:  you would need to get the uid from your slackware user, that's who owns your files now.  but if you chowned /  then every file on your ubuntu system is broken.
[03:27] <TuxOtaku> wow
[03:27] <nickrud> !universe
[03:27] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:27] <mustard5> ivo_, you have some sources in your sources.list that are no longer available..so you need to remove them
[03:27] <nickrud> ivo_, read directly above
[03:28] <ivo_> Emmm how to i remove then ?
[03:28] <TuxOtaku> yeah, i got chowned...^_~
[03:28] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, please, ohh, too late :)
[03:29] <mustard5> ivo_, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:29] <slide> Can anyone help me with this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/QGXmQO85.html
[03:29] <ivo_> 5.10
[03:29] <TuxOtaku> ah well, thankfully all my media is backed up on a separate partition
[03:29] <mustard5> ivo_, open this link in a browser http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[03:29] <nickrud> slide, no problem, now do sudo apt-get upgrade, that will update those packages
[03:30] <TuxOtaku> i guess there's no way to back up all my programs huh?
[03:30] <slide> nickrud, thats exactly what i did
[03:30] <nickrud> slide, heh, I need to stop scanning :)
[03:30] <slide> heh
[03:30] <mustard5> ivo_, tell me when you have done that
[03:30] <nickrud> slide, I would personally run sudo aptitude ; then press u g g
[03:31] <ivo_> mustard5 i dont" understad what i need to do in this link ? :)
[03:31] <TuxOtaku> this will be officially the first time i've ever broken a linux install
[03:31] <mustard5> ivo_, you need to open it in firefox
[03:31] <mustard5> ivo_, then tell me when you have it in firefox..and we can continue
[03:31] <IdleOne> Fujitsu:  untar a .gz file?
[03:31] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, you are extremely unusual then
[03:32] <Fujitsu> IdleOne, a .tar.gz or a .gz?
[03:32] <nimphelos> exit
[03:32] <Mantice> Tux0taku: Windows brake 999 Linux brake 1
[03:32] <ivo_> ok i open the link
[03:32] <IdleOne> .gz
[03:32] <Fujitsu> gunzip, IdleOne.
[03:32] <TuxOtaku> well, actually, i play it relatively safe
[03:32] <mustard5> ivo_, ok..now open up a terminal....tell me when you have done that
[03:32] <TuxOtaku> given that i am obviously still new at this
[03:32] <Silivrenion> when i try booting initrd.img, it keeps saying file not found... i dont know if i have the wrong hard drive, or if the file really doesnt exist?
[03:32] <ivo_> ok i open the terminal
[03:32] <IdleOne> Fujitsu:  gunzip filename?
[03:32] <TuxOtaku> and yet i'm using slackware...go figure huh?
[03:32] <Fujitsu> Yes, IdleOne.
[03:32] <mustard5> ivo_, put this command in ...   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:32] <IdleOne> thank you ()
[03:33] <mustard5> ivo_, what do you see now?
[03:33] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, I ran a debian unstable for years; I have yet to keep an ubuntu stable for more than 5 months
[03:33] <mustard5> ivo_, you should see a text editor with text in it anyway :)
[03:33] <ivo_> ok i put the comand
[03:33] <ivo_> yes
[03:33] <eternaljoy> I deleted a file and emptied trashcan!  Is there a way I can get the file back and restored?
[03:33] <ivo_> i see
[03:33] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, just a data point, no real value
[03:33] <Fujitsu> Unlikely, eternaljoy.
[03:33] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: define Unlikely
[03:34] <nickrud> eternaljoy, not very likely
[03:34] <Fujitsu> Very unlikely.
[03:34] <mustard5> ivo_, ok...remove all that text in the editor.....and replace with the sources.list information from the firefox page you loaded up
[03:34] <eternaljoy> nickrud: define not very likely :)
[03:34] <Fujitsu> Unless you know some of the contents...
[03:34] <nickrud> eternaljoy, give it up = not very likely
[03:34] <Fujitsu> What type of file?
[03:34] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: define very Unlikely :)
[03:34] <Silivrenion> how do I know from grub if vmlinuz is in the root of /dev/sda2 ?
[03:34] <TuxOtaku> nickrud: ??
[03:34] <eternaljoy> nickrud: so there is NO WAY to get file back?
[03:34] <Fujitsu> This is one of my greatest gripes with ext3, and why I often prefer ext2.
[03:34] <Fujitsu> What type of file was it, eternaljoy.
[03:34] <Fujitsu> *?
[03:34] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: a graphic file
[03:34] <mustard5> ivo_, tell me when you have done that...
[03:34] <ivo_> ok i do this
[03:34] <Fujitsu> Ahh
[03:34] <slide> How can i tell which repository a package is coming from?
[03:34] <Fujitsu> Well.
[03:34] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: jpg file
[03:35] <mustard5> ivo_, k...now save the file
[03:35] <Fujitsu> Oh dear.
[03:35] <nickrud> eternaljoy, shut off the machine. Boot a rescue disk, and learn how to read sectors.
[03:35] <ivo_> and replace?
[03:35] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu:  so there is NO WAY to get file back?
[03:35] <mustard5> ivo_, yes
[03:35] <ivo_> ok
[03:35] <eternaljoy> nickrud: lol :P
[03:35] <mustard5> ivo_, now do this command....  sudo apt-get update
[03:35] <eternaljoy> nickrud: so theres no change I get to see that jpg graphic file again? :P
[03:35] <eternaljoy> change = chance
[03:35] <mustard5> ivo_, did you get any errors?
[03:35] <nickrud> eternaljoy, I have rm aliased as mv to my own personal trash can
[03:35] <xiaoyu__> _jason: does ubuntu 5.10 have framebuffer support default
[03:35] <TuxOtaku> well...i guess i'll be booting back into slack now...back up those few files that need...umm...backing up...
[03:36] <TuxOtaku> then it's off to reinstall ubu!
[03:36] <_jason> xiaoyu__: I don't know.  You can just ask the channel, everyone is helpful here
[03:36] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, a suggestion:
[03:36] <eternaljoy> nickrud: ok! ill say goodbye to the file :P
[03:36] <Fujitsu> See, the problem with ext3 and file recovery is that is obliterates the records on the superblock referring to the file, so as to keep everything OK in the event of an unclean unmounting...
[03:36] <eternaljoy> nickrud: RIP
[03:36] <amphi> eternaljoy: you could try remounting the partition as ext2, and use debugfs
[03:36] <ivo_> i dont know there are lot of numbers
[03:36] <TuxOtaku> i'm listening
[03:36] <xiaoyu__>  does ubuntu 5.10 have framebuffer support default
[03:36] <ivo_> runing
[03:36] <amphi> eternaljoy: there is an undelete howto at tldp.org
[03:36] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: ok thats secure
[03:36] <mustard5> ivo_, its updating the package lists
[03:36] <Silivrenion> Ok, no one replied.. I need help... GRUB can't find /vmlinuz on my drive, and I have to locate where it is.. any help?
[03:37] <mustard5> ivo_, just let it finish what its doing
[03:37] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, create a group that exists (by number) in both slack and ubuntu, and make your music belong to that group:
[03:37] <ivo_> ok
[03:37] <xiaoyu__> _jason: i am sorry do disturb you
[03:37] <eternaljoy> amphi: sounds too complicated for the file!  I said goodbye to the file already
[03:37] <TuxOtaku> riiight
[03:37] <ivo_> oke
[03:37] <ivo_> : )
[03:37] <xiaoyu__>  does ubuntu 5.10 have framebuffer support default
[03:37] <eternaljoy> amphi:  RIP :)
[03:37] <TuxOtaku> good call
[03:37] <Trilom> Hey Anyone open to help me get my internet running on my other computer, i have a Dell Optiplex GX1, old computer, 266mghtz MXX P2.  The problem is when i run ubuntu the internet doesnt work, when i installed ubuntu on the system it didnt work.  So if any will please help let me know.  I have ubuntu on this GX1 but its a 350 P2 and it works dandy, but ive tested alot of things with the other tried, changing network cards, switchin
[03:37] <_jason> xiaoyu__: you're not disturbing, don't worry about it
[03:37] <mustard5> ivo_, what was the original question you wanted answered?
[03:37] <xiaoyu__>  does ubuntu 5.10 have framebuffer support default
[03:38] <xiaoyu__> could ang one tell me
[03:38] <amphi> Fujitsu: really? so debugfs will have no chance to recover on ext3? I did it a couple of times on ext2; nowadays I'm using xfs
[03:38] <ivo_> I need wery a music player
[03:38] <TuxOtaku> thanx a lot for all the help, nickrud
[03:38] <eternaljoy> amphi: I am installing Ubuntu on a system where we need 2 users to use it!  How can I do that?  adduser command?
[03:38] <mustard5> ivo_, ah ok..you wanted xmms
[03:38] <ivo_> Fetched 3188kB in 1m44s (30.4kB/s)
[03:38] <ivo_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:38] <mustard5> ivo_, I remember now
[03:38] <mustard5> ivo_, now sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:38] <nickrud> TuxOtaku, sorry it took so long for that to percolate to my forebrain
[03:38] <Fujitsu> amphi, that was one of the bigger changes in ext3. It obliterates the records for some reason... RElated to recovery from the journal...
[03:38] <ivo_> sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:38] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: so ext3 is that secure when deleting files that nobody can recover the files?
[03:38] <ivo_> ups
[03:39] <Fujitsu> It is possible to recover.
[03:39] <amphi> eternaljoy: yeah - you will also need to add the user to the same groups as your user
[03:39] <mustard5> ivo_, did it install with no errors?
[03:39] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu It is possible to recover. <-- can a novice do it?
[03:39] <amphi> Fujitsu: uhuh, thanks
[03:39] <Fujitsu> If you know some of the contents of the file, you can likely get part of it back...
[03:39] <nickrud> !info e2recover
[03:39] <ivo_> I got this
[03:39] <ivo_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:39] <ivo_> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:39] <ivo_> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[03:39] <ivo_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:39] <ivo_>   skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed
[03:39] <ivo_>   xmms: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[03:39] <ivo_>         Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed
[03:39] <ivo_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:39] <ivo_> ivo@ubuntu:~$
[03:39] <mustard5> ivo_, don't paste in the channel
[03:39] <amphi> Fujitsu: just hexediting the raw device you mean?
[03:39] <Fujitsu> However, it is unlikely that you would be able to locate a JPEG in the entirety of the disk.
[03:39] <NickGarvey> whoa, pastebin
[03:39] <ivo_> ups sory
[03:39] <eternaljoy> ivo_: LO'
[03:40] <Fujitsu> Yes, that's what you'd have to do, AFAIK.
[03:40] <nickrud> ivo_, get skype from seveas
[03:40] <nickrud> !skype
[03:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:40] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: do you make cameras? :)
[03:40] <Fujitsu> I remember I was really annoyed when I was trying to undelete stuff from an ext3.
[03:40] <NickGarvey> and ivo_ did you do apt-get -f install xmms?
[03:40] <mustard5> ivo_, there is a special web page for big pastes..ok   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:40] <Fujitsu> So, I always use ReiserFS now.
[03:40] <wastrel> reiserfs eh
[03:40] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: well its good if anyone ever steals your system, they cant undelte your files :)
[03:40] <amphi> I used reiser, but it made me nervous, so I switched to xfs ;)
[03:40] <sapo> hi all, i m getting this after updating the xorg in dapper: Error: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is installed correctly.
[03:41] <sambagirl> i have a question
[03:41] <sapo> now i m without 3d accel :(
[03:41] <nickrud> Fujitsu, brave soul
[03:41] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: ReiserFS is not as secure as ext3?
[03:41] <ivo_> what is the this link?
[03:41] <_jason> !dapper
[03:41] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[03:41] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: I heard ReiserFS is very unstable!  true?
[03:41] <leolimas> hi
[03:41] <mustard5> ivo_, your skype program is using an library that is not standard in breezy badger
[03:41] <eternaljoy> !ReiserFS
[03:41] <ubotu> I guess reiserfs is a journalling file system - In benchmarks it seems to be faster then other default file systems.
[03:41] <leolimas> I wanna install java
[03:41] <nickrud> ivo_, the link is for a skype that will work properly in ubuntu
[03:41] <Fujitsu> In order to ensure that ext3 can safely resume an unlink after a crash, it actually zeros out the block pointers in the inode, whereas
[03:41] <Fujitsu> ext2 just marks these blocks as unused in the block bitmaps and marks the inode as "deleted" and leaves the block pointers alone.
[03:41] <Fujitsu> Your only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files that have been deleted and hope for the best.
[03:41] <leolimas> how i can do this ? with apt-get on ubuntu ?
[03:41] <sambagirl> i had a disater on my xp computer and i am currently using the live cd on the xp computer. can i try to mount the xp computer with the live cd system is it possible to do?
[03:41] <Fujitsu> That is what one of the developers said.
[03:41] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: well its good if anyone ever steals your system, they cant undelte your files :)
[03:41] <b1ind> I've got a major screen corruption/freezing problem trying to use the fglrx driver for xorg 7
[03:41] <sambagirl> xp drive nt computer
[03:41] <jetscreamer> !java
[03:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:42] <mustard5> ivo_, its a 'pastebin'...you put your text that you want to show us in there...then hit 'send'...then you copy and paste the new URL into here so we can see it in a browser
[03:42] <nickrud> leolimas, enable multiverse, and install jre2-1.4
[03:42] <ivo_> im open the link and there is the screnshot and text
[03:42] <Fujitsu> So any record is obliterated.
[03:42] <amphi> eternaljoy: I used it a lot, and only once had a problem, which --rebuildtree fixed, but I heard too many horror stories
[03:42] <Fujitsu> So, ReiserFS and ext2 are good!
[03:42] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu That is what one of the developers said. <-- what is his name?
[03:42] <b1ind> I have a radeon mobility 9200 (really a 9000)
[03:42] <leolimas> !javadebs
[03:42] <Madpilot> sambagirl: yes, it is possible. Open a terminal and type "man mount"
[03:42] <eternaljoy> amphi: yeah
[03:42] <sambagirl> oh thanks i pray it works madpilot
[03:42] <Fujitsu> Andreas Dilger... AFAIK.
[03:42] <ivo_> I send
[03:42] <eternaljoy> sambagirl: you go girl ;)
[03:43] <Madpilot> sambagirl: man mount just brings up the manual page for the "mount" command, so it's harmless by itself :)
[03:43] <amphi> eternaljoy: OTOH, I had an ext3 fs comlpletely disappear on me for no apparent reason
[03:43] <mustard5> ivo_, ok..after you hit 'send'...a new URL is created...you show me that URL from your browser address bar
[03:43] <wastrel> b1ind:  in dapper?
[03:43] <b1ind> wastrel, yes
[03:43] <amphi> Fujitsu: interesting, thanks
[03:43] <wastrel> b1ind:  yeah i've heard fglrx is broken in dapper
[03:43] <ivo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9092
[03:43] <Trilom> Hey Anyone open to help me get my internet running on my other computer, i have a Dell Optiplex GX1, old computer, 266mghtz MXX P2.  The problem is when i run ubuntu the internet doesnt work, when i installed ubuntu on the system it didnt work.  So if any will please help let me know.  I have ubuntu on this GX1 but its a 350 P2 and it works dandy, but ive tested alot of things with the other tried, changing network cards, switchin
[03:44] <b1ind> wastrel, I've tried using the one from ati's site as well
[03:44] <Fujitsu> Trilom, what kind of connection? Modem, DSL, Cable?
[03:44] <eternaljoy> amphi: weird
[03:44] <Trilom> Funjitsu: DSL
[03:44] <amphi> eternaljoy: nay, almost distressing ;)
[03:44] <eternaljoy> Fujitsu: so Andreas Dilger is one of the main developers?
[03:44] <b1ind> wastrel, I've switched back to 'radeon', but direct rendering is disabled.. could a symlink have been borked? if so, where is it?
[03:44] <sambagirl> ther are a bunch of options madpilot is there a obvious one for mounting a potentially troubled xp drive that just goes bad now?
[03:44] <mustard5> mustard5, k..looking at it now...
[03:44] <Fujitsu> How is the modem connected, Trilom?
[03:44] <eternaljoy> amphi: :)
[03:45] <mustard5> ivo_, you installed skype using the .deb file from the skype website?
[03:45] <jmkasunich> trilom: do you have a router?  (ie multiple drops for multiple simultaneous users)
[03:45] <ivo_> yes
[03:45] <Trilom> Funjitsu: Hardwired. Phone line to modem, modem to 8 port linksys router, router hardwired to computer.
[03:45] <jmkasunich> great
[03:45] <mustard5> ivo_, ok..it is using a library that is not standard in breezy badger 5.10
[03:45] <Fujitsu> OK.
[03:45] <Fujitsu> Ahh.
[03:45] <ivo_> and what i need to do ?
[03:45] <mustard5> ivo_, you will need to install skype differently as that library is conflicting with other programs you want
[03:45] <wastrel> b1ind:  i dunno, i'm running breezy still - haven't upgraded for just this reason, sry :/
[03:45] <amphi> b1ind: what card is it? does the free driver support 3d for it?
[03:45] <Fujitsu> Have you got the router set as the gateway on the Ubuntu machine?
[03:46] <mustard5> ivo_, for now ...you need to unistall skype
[03:46] <Trilom> No... how wouldi do that?
[03:46] <ivo_> how to i unistal skype?
[03:46] <Fujitsu> Does the router provide DHCP?
[03:46] <b1ind> amphi, it is a mobility 9000, factory o/c'd to 9200 specs
[03:46] <mustard5> ivo_, to do this.... sudo apt-get remove skype
[03:46] <RememberPOL> Has anybody successfully installed Quake3 on Breezy?
[03:46] <sambagirl> if i type mount it shows me a list how do i know what to use?
[03:46] <Fujitsu> Also, Trilom, can you access other machines on the network?
[03:46] <Trilom> Well it should, it worked for my other computer, which is running the same.
[03:46] <jmkasunich> Trilom: you have two computers, and one is already running ubnutu and connects just fine, right?
[03:46] <Trilom> Yeah.
[03:46] <Fujitsu> Trilom, what kind of network card is in the machine?
[03:46] <amphi> b1ind: that appears to be supported
[03:46] <jmkasunich> so its not the router or dhcp
[03:47] <jmkasunich> have you tried pinging from each machine to the other?
[03:47] <amphi> b1ind: do you have the relevant kernel modules installed?
[03:47] <Madpilot> sambagirl: forgot about this - here: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-windows-partitions
[03:47] <b1ind> amphi, yes.. I just ran glxgears w/ verbose debugging and got an interesting error
[03:47] <Trilom> Works on my other machine not the one i have now
[03:47] <b1ind> amphi, yes.. I've followed countless guides for fglrx
[03:47] <Trilom>  I have one in my live ing room and one in my bedroom.  Ive switched out the network cards to test if it is working with my machine.
[03:47] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[03:47] <ivo_> mustard5 look it is ok  ?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9094
[03:47] <mustard5> ivo_, k
[03:47] <b1ind> libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_get_dispatch)
[03:47] <b1ind> libGL error: unable to find driver: r200_dri.so
[03:47] <Fujitsu> Interesting, Trilom.
[03:48] <Trilom> I have 3 different ones, tried em all.  They all work on one machine, and not on the other.
[03:48] <Fujitsu> Trilom, open up a terminal, and type sudo ifup eth0
[03:48] <Trilom> One is IBM
[03:48] <mustard5> ivo_, ok...its removed..that is fine
[03:48] <Trilom> Kk brb gotta run to bedroom.
[03:48] <ivo_> ok
[03:48] <amphi> b1ind: ugh, fglrx - why not use the free xorg driver that provides 3d accel for your card?
[03:48] <mustard5> ivo_, ok..now lets try installing xmms again    sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:48] <b1ind> amphi, I am trying... it is currently fubard
[03:48] <Kr4t05> okay.
[03:48] <bz0b> does anyone here use Seveas's sources?
[03:49] <amphi> b1ind: you probably need to uninstall _every_ fglrx thing you have
[03:49] <b1ind> amphi, as soon as I grabbed the fglrx package, using 'radeon' no longer works
[03:49] <syllogism> amphi, r300 isn't exactly. . . as stable as one would hope yet(at least it was last i checked)
[03:49] <sambagirl> ok how would i know if i have ntfs or fat? i upgraded me so would it be fat?
[03:49] <b1ind> amphi, ok, I'll try that
[03:49] <Kr4t05> I am using the Ubuntu Hoary Live CD.
[03:49] <nickrud> bz0b, yes, sourc-o-matic is superior
[03:49] <b1ind> is there a way to list installed packages by regex or glob?
[03:49] <amphi> syllogism: I am blest with an older card ;)
[03:49] <bz0b> nickrud: oh yeaH? i just added it, so i was wondering if its safe
[03:49] <sambagirl> if i try the wrong mount will it break anything else?
[03:49] <Kr4t05> Can I use this CD to partition/format my HardDisk?
[03:49] <crimsun> b1ind: in what sense? You can do anything with sed+awk after dpkg -l
[03:49] <TTilus> b1ind: man dpkg
[03:49] <jmkasunich> blind: would dpkg -l do what you need?
[03:49] <jmkasunich> (check man page)
[03:49] <wastrel> bz0b:  what's seveas' sources?
[03:49] <b1ind> ok
[03:49] <nickrud> bz0b, as outside repo's go, it's about as safe as you can get
[03:49] <amphi> syllogism: fglrx seems to be less than a riot of fun and laughter for all the family ;)
[03:50] <NickGarvey> Kr4t05: ubuntu has a built in partitioner
[03:50] <b1ind> sorry guys, new to debian/ubuntu
[03:50] <Kr4t05> NickGarvey: This is a Damn Small Install.
[03:50] <jmkasunich> no prob
[03:50] <bz0b> nickrud: does he have packages for the dapper drake?
[03:50] <syllogism> amphi, fglrx isn't my favorite - but I have to deal with it until r300 is out of the heavy debugging stages
[03:50] <Fujitsu> sambagirl, it will fail if you try to use the wrong one, so you can just try the other./
[03:50] <bz0b> nickrud: because i was thinking about updating
[03:50] <amphi> b1ind: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep fglrx should do
[03:50] <amphi> syllogism: uhuh
[03:51] <ivo_> mustard5 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9095 its ok ?
[03:51] <b1ind> s'ok I've got it.. just one pkg
[03:51] <sambagirl> ok thank you fujitsu
[03:51] <jacquesmerde> woah, just installed dapper, good to see ubuntu getting better and better.
[03:51] <nickrud> bz0b I really doubt he's trying to be in advance of dapper :)
[03:51] <mustard5> ivo_, yes..xmms is installed now
[03:51] <amphi> syllogism: does fglrx provide its own kernel dri module[s] ?
[03:51] <ivo_> Ohhh big big tnxxxxxxxx
[03:51] <wastrel> i installed fglrx so i could get video mirroring on my vga port on my laptop.... couldn't figure it out with radeon/ati
[03:51] <ivo_> :))))
[03:51] <Fujitsu> Dapper is really good, yes.
[03:51] <mustard5> ivo_, now you need to go read this page about skype now... http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/
[03:51] <ivo_> ok
[03:52] <mustard5> ivo_, read through the whole page and decide how you want to install
[03:52] <amphi> wastrel: I haven't tried, but MergeFB is said to do that
[03:52] <nickrud> except that the panel is currently broke
[03:52] <Fujitsu> And has very easy, very spectacular, eye-candy...
[03:52] <syllogism> amphi, I don't recall, sorry
[03:52] <jacquesmerde> one question though, to run nvidia-glx-config i had to create a symlink from a new location to an old one for xorg.conf.md5sum, shouldnt this be done by an update of the package?
[03:52] <mustard5> ivo_, there are several methods on the page
[03:52] <wastrel> amphi:  it's working now so i'm not going to mess with it :]   but i'll keep that in mind
[03:52] <odla> dapper has a channel now too...#ubuntu+1
[03:52] <mustard5> ivo_, come back and ask questions if you are not sure
[03:52] <ivo_> oke tnx
[03:52] <nickrud> jacquesmerde, idealy, yes. In reality, you've worked around it
[03:53] <b1ind> bbias, testing
[03:53] <jacquesmerde> nickrud: what will be the solution when dapper goes mainstream?
[03:53] <Mez> Seveas: ping
[03:54] <wastrel> jacquesmerde:  file a bug & they'll fix it before then :] 
[03:54] <nickrud> jacquesmerde, that issue should be fixed. You could check http://launchpad.net/malone, and see if that bug is registered
[03:54] <VR^> hey everyone, im trying to configure grip (the cd ripper). i dont know which encoder i should point to if i wanna use lame
[03:54] <ivo_> ohhh there is too mach text emm i need download skype rpm from skype com ?
[03:54] <VR^> can someone help out?
[03:54] <jacquesmerde> my other teething problem is that i've installed gstreamer0.8-mad, but totem still wont play mp3's. (mpg321 works fine from the cli though), is that just me?
[03:55] <b1ind> amphi, ok, I'm back to direct rendering, thanks :D
[03:55] <crimsun> jacquesmerde: did you execute sudo gst-register-0.8 ?
[03:55] <Trilom> Funjitsu: It says "Ignoring Unknown Interface eth0=eth0"
[03:55] <mustard5> ivo_, english is not your native tongue?
[03:55] <nickrud> jacquesmerde, if you're on dapper, it might be gstreamer10.0 (or whatever it's called)
[03:55] <amphi> b1ind: cool ;)
[03:55] <crimsun> for dapper it's gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[03:55] <wastrel> VR^:  there's an entry in the menu for lame, at least on mine...
[03:55] <Trilom> Funjitsu: Btw sorry its kindof slow, having to unplug keyboard and run back and forth, good thing im getting another keyboard.
[03:55] <ivo_> I wery bad know english im am a latvian
[03:55] <jacquesmerde> crimsun: thanks
[03:55] <b1ind> amphi, any idea how to get xcompmgr to start at session start w/o having to killal gnome-panel?
[03:55] <Heathen_> How do I make amarok my default music player (for when double clicking an mp3)?
[03:55] <VR^> wastrel: yeah but when i select that i get "unable to save encoder conrfig"
[03:56] <mustard5> ivo_, thats ok..your going ok.. get the .rpm for fedora core 3 from the skype website
[03:56] <nickrud> Heathen_, right click an mp3 file, and choose properties->open with
[03:56] <amphi> b1ind: no
[03:56] <Heathen_> nickrud, : does that make it the default player?
[03:57] <nickrud> Heathen_, yes.
[03:57] <Fujitsu> Brb. Switching back to normal X.
[03:57] <crxyem> ok well I don't need so much ndis help, it's still a wireless bit, anyone familiar with iwconfig ??
[03:57] <ivo_> whats  mean fedora ? :)
[03:57] <wastrel> VR^:  have you installed lame?
[03:57] <nickrud> ivo_, garbage
[03:57] <Heathen_> nickrud, thanks, i feel stupid 8)
[03:57] <VR^> wastrel: i think i have
[03:57] <amphi> crxyem: somewhat
[03:57] <Trilom> Fujitsu: Wait di dyou get my results?
[03:57] <nickrud> ivo_, lol, it's another version of linux, search google. It's a decent distro, from everything I've heard
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[03:58] <wastrel> VR^:  sudo apt-get install lame
[03:58] <Fujitsu> No.
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Didn't see that, Trilom,
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Very odd.
[03:58] <Trilom> Funjitsu: It says "Ignoring Unknown Interface eth0=eth0"
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Looks like the network card hasn't been detected properly.
[03:58] <crxyem> well here's the prob, I have my wireless setup with ndiswrapper, reboot, and I have to set all my iwconfig commands again to reconnect to my AP
[03:58] <VR^> wastrel: i guess i didnt have that heh
[03:58] <VR^> its installing
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Try typing ifconfig in the terminal.
[03:58] <Trilom> kkbrb
[03:58] <angelo> does ubuntu come with a text mode browser?
[03:58] <jacquesmerde> damn, now i want to remove gstreamer0.8-mad, but i dont know how to remove the dependencies i installed with it. can someone tell me how to? or what those deps are?
[03:58] <Fujitsu> And past the results on the pastebin.
[03:58] <nickrud> Heathen_, I've answerd that question many times, I guess it means you're not stupid
[03:58] <wastrel> angelo:  links or lynx
[03:58] <angelo> ty
[03:58] <wastrel> angelo:  or wc3
[03:59] <wastrel> er w3c
[03:59] <amphi> angelo: you can install w3m links or lynx
[03:59] <wastrel> m
[03:59] <amphi> heh
[03:59] <Heathen_> :) thanks again! good night
[03:59] <wastrel> heh
[03:59] <VR^> wastrel: actually, it tells me 'lame is already the newest version'
[03:59] <wastrel> w3m  w3c is a different thing
[03:59] <sambagirl>  i get this error
[03:59] <nickrud> jacquesmerde, look into debfoster (apt-get install debfoster)
[03:59] <sambagirl> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # /dev/hda1 /media/windows vfat umask=000 0 0
[03:59] <sambagirl> bash: /dev/hda1: Permission denied
[03:59] <angelo> do you reccomend any particular one or is anyone of them fine'
[03:59] <amphi> jacquesmerde: or deborphan
[03:59] <wastrel> VR^:  dunno what to tell you then :] 
[04:00] <biovore> sambagirl: try mount in front of that
[04:00] <amphi> angelo: I like w3m
[04:00] <mustard5> sambagirl, what are you trying to do?
[04:00] <crxyem> sambagirl: vfat should be ntfs
[04:00] <crxyem> for XP
[04:00] <jacquesmerde> deborphan sounds exactly like what i want
[04:00] <amphi> angelo: lynx is canonical, I don't like links much, dunno why
[04:00] <sambagirl> i am trying to mount my xp drive becuase i think i made a mistake so i am trying to mount it with live cd
[04:00] <IdleOne> anybody know how I start up a eggdrop via ssh?
[04:00] <jacquesmerde> surely synaptic has a log file though
[04:00] <sambagirl> ok brb
[04:00] <nickrud> amphi, it's been a while (I use aptitude) which is better, debfoster or deborphan?
[04:00] <jacquesmerde> otherwise i'll have to use aptitiude from now on
[04:00] <mustard5> sambagirl, k..well when you get back I can show you a proper command
[04:00] <angelo> ok thx
[04:00] <amphi> nickrud: I've only used deborphan
[04:01] <Fujitsu> crxyem, NTFS is not vfat!
[04:01] <sambagirl> it sitll says permission denied
[04:01] <nickrud> jacquesmerde, just use aptitude :)
[04:01] <crxyem> XP is NTFS
[04:01] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[04:01] <amphi> nickrud: use it circumspectly if you compile stuff yourself ;)
[04:01] <sambagirl> well it was upgreade from ME
[04:01] <crxyem> ah
[04:01] <lint> What's the default save path for installed apps?
[04:01] <jacquesmerde> xp DOES give you the option of fat32 on install
[04:01] <nuambenzina> how can I easy change update download mirrors, for packages/updates ?
[04:01] <mustard5> sambagirl, one second...I'm just working out the command for you..
[04:02] <lint> for ex i just installed something and i have no idea where it is
[04:02] <nickrud> amphi, if I compiled stuff, I'd use fedora or gentoo, or my historical work, linuxfromscratch.
[04:02] <twysted> jacquesmerde> no it does NOT
[04:02] <Trilom> Fujitsu: lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[04:02] <Trilom>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[04:02] <Trilom>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[04:02] <Trilom>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[04:02] <Trilom>           RX packets:8590 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:02] <Trilom>           TX packets:8590 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:02] <amphi> lint: $HOME usually, if I understand you
[04:02] <Trilom>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[04:02] <Trilom>           RX bytes:510298 (498.3 KiB)  TX bytes:510298 (498.3 KiB)
[04:02] <twysted> stop pasting u dork
[04:02] <amphi> !tell Trilom about pastebin
[04:02] <nickrud> Trilom, please don't paste here, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:02] <Fujitsu> Hello.
[04:02] <twysted> jacquesmerde> xp will only give you the option to use fat32 if you have an existing os such as win98 on the drive
[04:02] <Trilom> Oh ok thanks, sorry about that, Noob.
[04:03] <lint> amphi: Nah, i dont see it listed, is there another command like "ls" that will show hidden folders?
[04:03] <amphi> Trilom: no worrie
[04:03] <amphi> s
[04:03] <twysted> im a noob because a called you a dork? classic!
[04:03] <Fujitsu> I was about to change back to normal X, however Xgl did it for me (ie. it segfaulted) :(
[04:03] <amphi> lint: ls -a
[04:03] <nickrud> Trilom, I got kicked for less :)
[04:03] <crxyem> so anyone have any idea why I need to run iwconfig everytime I reboot, to get my wireless back und running ??
[04:03] <jacquesmerde> twysted: it DID when i installed it. i always install xp as fat32, so i can shrink or expand it along with linux on my dualboot
[04:03] <mustard5> sambagirl, sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[04:03] <amphi> lint: $HOME means your home directory
[04:03] <kevo_tool> Does zoom work with Compiz?
[04:03] <nuambenzina> sambagirl sudo cfdisk and see what filesystem y have there
[04:03] <lint> Yeah
[04:03] <Trilom> Ok what do you need to know from this file fujitsu, or do you want me to paste it all in pastebin?
[04:03] <twysted> jacquesmerde> *shudders* there is program thatll resize ntfs partitions and its open source :D
[04:03] <jt3k> hi
[04:03] <Fujitsu> Which file?
[04:03] <nickrud> twysted, you are
[04:03] <jacquesmerde> twysted: parted?
[04:04] <kevo_tool> XP on Fat32...... brrrr
[04:04] <lint> amphi: I installed gimp and i just ls - a's and I dont see any mentioning of gimp anywhere
[04:04] <mustard5> sambagirl, thats taken from here... http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[04:04] <Silivrenion> I need to know, in the ubuntu /boot directory, should vmlinuz be named "vmlinuz" or "vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386"
[04:04] <amphi> twysted: I've done it once, on a friend's laptop, and it worked perfectly
[04:04] <twysted> nickrud> ok rich im a noob omg, elitest prick
[04:04] <jt3k> hey twysted what about gparted
[04:04] <nuambenzina> how can I easy change update download mirrors, for packages/updates ?...
[04:04] <amphi> lint: the binary will be in /usr/bin
[04:04] <nickrud> Silivrenion, the latter
[04:04] <lint> amphi: ah gotcha, thanks
[04:04] <amphi> lint: just type gimp in a shell or rin box
[04:04] <nickrud> twysted, a joke friend, I am the least elite you'll see here
[04:04] <Trilom> Ok what do you need to know from this file fujitsu, or do you want me to paste it all in pastebin?
[04:04] <amphi> lint: er, run box
[04:05] <twysted> nickrud> hehe
[04:05] <Fujitsu> Just paste it all in pastebin please, Trilom.
[04:05] <sambagirl> it says W95  F32
[04:05] <amphi> lint: ls -a will show  dotfiles, that are normally not shown
[04:05] <bimberi> Silivrenion: and /vmlinuz is a symbolic link to it
[04:05] <Silivrenion> nickrud :: should my grub loader say "kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3" or "kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/hda3"
[04:05] <lint> amphi: Whats the general way when a power user like yourself installs, like whats the easiest way to make a shortcut on your desktop etc
[04:05] <Trilom> Fujitsu: ok all pasted
[04:05] <lint> because obviously opening a terminal every time i want to open GIMP is kinda silly
[04:05] <mustard5> sambagirl, your drive is definitely /dev/hda1 and your have a /media/windows folder?
[04:05] <Silivrenion> bimberi, nickrud :: I'm getting errors from grub saying that vmlinuz doesnt exist
[04:05] <sambagirl> ok
[04:06] <Trilom> Fujitsu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9096
[04:06] <angelo> so what would be the cmd to install w3m
[04:06] <amphi> lint: I have no desktop ;) I have a keybinding to grun, so I do alt-ctrl-r and type gimp (except that grun completes for you)
[04:06] <Fujitsu> Thanks, Trilom.
[04:06] <Fujitsu> Wait a sec while I load it :)
[04:06] <lint> amphi: haha
[04:06] <nickrud> Silivrenion, either: as long as /vmlinuz is a link to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386
[04:06] <Trilom> Fujitsu: BTW Thanks for the help. :)
[04:06] <lint> That's pretty leet ;D
[04:06] <Silivrenion> nickrud :: there is no link there..
[04:06] <amphi> lint: I hardly use mouse at all in X ;)
[04:06] <lint> hehe
[04:06] <LiteHedded> i need easy sources please!
[04:07] <Trilom> amphi: X being?
[04:07] <babo> Hi guys, I can't open .phtml files on my localhost
[04:07] <nickrud> Silivrenion, then, the file in /boot/ is correct
[04:07] <Fujitsu> Yes, Trilom, it hasn't detected your ethernet card...
[04:07] <lint> So in my case i'd probably just right click on the desktop and browse for the file and create a shortcut
[04:07] <LiteHedded> i always forget the trigger
[04:07] <_jason> LiteHedded: /msg ubotu easysource
[04:07] <amphi> lint: openbiox, like most WMs, can be configured to do pretty much anything via keyboard
[04:07] <bimberi> Silivrenion: if it helps, my (dapper) kernel line is "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-15-386 root=/dev/hda4 ro quiet splash"
[04:07] <Trilom> Fujitsu: Ok how can i get it to detect it, would that be in the bios?
[04:07] <angelo> is there a newbie channel for people who have alot of easy questions or do i ask all that here :D
[04:07] <nickrud> Silivrenion, you could paste the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:07] <amphi> Trilom: the X window system, the GUI
[04:07] <nickrud> angelo, this is it :)
[04:08] <Trilom> amphi: Ahh, sounds cool.
[04:08] <Fujitsu> What kind of Ethernet card is it?
[04:08] <angelo> :D
[04:08] <amphi> Trilom: "what lies beneath" gnome or whatever
[04:08] <Silivrenion> cd ..
[04:08] <babo> I've installed the apache-php mods and I've done the AddType application/x-httpd-php .phtml and then restarted but I still can't open .phtml files ... any suggestions ?
[04:08] <MAB> any one tell me about getting an extra hard drive for my gateway? Should that be an internal of an external?
[04:08] <Trilom> Fujitsu: IBM
[04:08] <angelo> what the cmd to install w3m
[04:08] <lint> Thanks a ton amphi, one last question, is there a hotkey to pull up a terminal/Konsole in KDE/Kubuntu?
[04:08] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[04:08] <jt3k> does anyone know an alternative to exchange server for linux?
[04:08] <brenner> nuambenzina: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:08] <nickrud> angelo, patience is a virtue; ask every 5 - 10 minutes if you dont' get satisfaction
[04:08] <Fujitsu> I have no idea about any IBM cards...
[04:08] <amphi> Trilom: I'm to clumsy to use a mouse ;)
[04:08] <angelo> ok
[04:08] <jt3k> i need some kind of groupware for my coworkers... any suggestion?
[04:08] <Trilom> Lol Yeah i prefer a keyboard also.
[04:09] <amphi> Trilom: that's why I create graphics with a text editor ;)
[04:09] <lint> lol graphics with a text editor?
[04:09] <ejofee> anybody know about a video player which can be programmed to pause a film, play a sequence of another one, then return to the exact place where it left the first film and continue playing it, all in a smooth manner?
[04:09] <nickrud> angelo, sudo apt-get install w3m ; if that doesn't work, work through http://AddingRepositoriesHowto , then try again
[04:09] <Trilom> amphi: Can do anything with keyboard. :)
[04:09] <amphi> lint: yeah, povray 'SDL'
[04:09] <angelo> ok thanks alot
[04:09] <brad_teenbot> Hey guys, my sound isnt working (hasnt since installed) and the speaker up by the clock has an X in front of it and i have no idea of where to start. Any suggestions?
[04:09] <Trilom> Fujitsu: So... what do you suggest?
[04:09] <lint> povray 'SDL' ?
[04:09] <crxyem> brad do you know what kind of sound card it is ??
[04:09] <brenner> angelo: it should be installed already
[04:09] <mustard5> brad_teenbot, what soundcard?
[04:09] <amphi> lint: 'scene description language' - povray is a ray-tracer
[04:10] <Fujitsu> Have you got any other cards, Trilom?
[04:10] <lint> ah cool
[04:10] <Trilom> Fujitsu: OH OH It also has an onboard Ethernet port on it, and that didnt work, dont know if that will "spark" anything.
[04:10] <wastrel> ascii art
[04:10] <amphi> lint: apt-gettable, see http://povray.org/ for info; it's an excellent program IMHO
[04:10] <deang> I can't run gok due to missing 'libatk-bridge'     suggestions?
[04:10] <nickrud> brad_teenbot, yeah: look for a guy named crimsun on this list, and when he's around, ask him :)
[04:10] <sambagirl> it says this mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /media/windows busy
[04:10] <brenner> brad_teenbot: that means it's muted iirc.  just up the volume
[04:10] <angelo> so if i type "w3m" in text mode it should open up correct
[04:10] <sambagirl> could this be from the chkdsk i did ?
[04:10] <nickrud> angelo, yes
[04:10] <sambagirl> it is still open
[04:10] <angelo> k
[04:11] <brad_teenbot> riptide-0.6lnxtbeta03
[04:11] <theplateau> can someone help me get ipv6 working
[04:11] <babo> can anyone help with an apache problem ?
[04:11] <mustard5> sambagirl, I wouldnt think so..but close it anyway
[04:11] <brenner> angelo: w3m <url/filename>
[04:11] <mustard5> sambagirl, it really sounds like its mounted already
[04:11] <amphi> angelo: w3m <url> will work better
[04:11] <Trilom> Fujitsu: Correction, all the Ethernet cards i have are IBM.
[04:11] <brad_teenbot> its not mutted ive already tried
[04:11] <Delvien> Holy Cow Wireless works now ! ay
[04:11] <sambagirl> it says it is lalready mounted but i dont see it
[04:11] <mustard5> sambagirl, can you browse to it in nautilus?
[04:11] <amphi> Delvien: native driver?
[04:12] <Trilom> Fujitsu: But the fact that the onboard doesnt work boggles me, even though the CD-ROM Drive is off and on.. kindof of weird, but thats a different story.
[04:12] <Delvien> amphi the new dapper update killed all networking, finally got it going
[04:12] <Fujitsu> Is the onboard enabled in the BIOS?
[04:12] <sambagirl> ahh just a minute
[04:12] <amphi> Delvien: heh
[04:12] <Fujitsu> What type of motherboard is it?
[04:13] <Trilom> Fujitsu: Dell standard, and im pretty sure the onboard is enabled.
[04:13] <mustard5> brad_teenbot, hmm..never heard of that one
[04:13] <sambagirl> mustard5 whee is nautaulis in live cd?
[04:13] <CaNsA> ok how can i mount my ntfs sata hdd in ubuntu?
[04:13] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[04:13] <whyami> I have a DualPoint Stick and a DualPoint Touchpad, both built into my laptop. I want to disable the Touchpad but not the stick. Any ideas? I seem to be able to disable the stick and not the touchpad...
[04:13] <mustard5> sambagirl, yes
[04:13] <Trilom> Fujitsu: Probley a Intel mobo, thats all ive seen in Dells..... especially the old ones.
[04:13] <Fujitsu> Interesting that they aren't detected then. Running Breezy?
[04:13] <Trilom> Yeah.
[04:13] <mustard5> sambagirl, go up to Places and open 'Computer'
[04:13] <ubuntu_> hello
[04:14] <angelo> o ok
[04:14] <mustard5> sambagirl, that will open nautilus file browser
[04:14] <nickrud> whyami, just a stab in the dark, but somewhere in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, there will be a reference to synaptic ; look into removing that stanza
[04:14] <sambagirl> i see file system and cdrom and that is it
[04:14] <mustard5> sambagirl, go to filesystem
[04:14] <mustard5> sambagirl, then look for 'media'
[04:14] <mustard5> sambagirl, inside there you should find 'windows'
[04:14] <amphi> whyami: you can't do that in the BIOS? I disabled the touchpad on my stinkpad like that
[04:14] <Fujitsu> Well, does anybody else have any ideas about Trilom's problem?
[04:14] <sambagirl> well i'll be
[04:15] <ubuntu_> i'm using ubuntu 5.04 live CD and i'm trying to use gaim, but it doesn't launch no matter now hard i click on it, is this supposed to happen? :S
[04:15] <sambagirl> there it is
[04:15] <whyami> nickrud: are you saying to remove the synaptics section entirely? I figured it would be a config there.
[04:15] <stoned> I have an hp multimedia/internet keyboard, I am using ubuntu/kubuntu and I can't seem to find how to make those extra keys.  How can I findout which keycodes those extra keys are sending, and then assign commands to those keys etc
[04:15] <sambagirl> ubuntu is the stuff lol
[04:15] <mustard5> sambagirl, anything inside the 'windows' folder?
[04:15] <sambagirl> thanks
[04:15] <amphi> stoned: xev
[04:15] <whyami> amphi: won't that disable my internal stick as well?
[04:15] <sambagirl> oh yes
[04:15] <mustard5> sambagirl, k :)
[04:15] <sambagirl> it's all there mustard5
[04:15] <sambagirl> :)
[04:15] <sambagirl> thanks
[04:15] <mustard5> sambagirl, np
[04:15] <amphi> whyami: on my laptop I could disable just the touchpad
[04:15] <sambagirl> so my boot must be bad for windows
[04:15] <amphi> whyami: what is yours?
[04:15] <sambagirl> let me check with windows now. thanks a bunch :)
[04:15] <mustard5> sambagirl, k
[04:16] <whyami> amphi: yeah I think I looked for that option and couldn't find. This is a Dell D600.
[04:16] <Delvien> Anyone know how i turn on Wireless powersave?
[04:16] <brad_teenbot> varsendagger, i was just wondering what was going on with that labtop. im in no hurry or anything but just wondering.
[04:16] <crxyem> so anyone have any idea why I need to run iwconfig everytime I reboot, to get my wireless back up running ??
[04:16] <amphi> whyami: nothing useful on linux-laptop.net or tuxmobil.org? many people seem to disable their touchpads ;)
[04:16] <brenner> stoned: sys>prefs>k/b shortcuts
[04:16] <Trilom> Anyone want to help me with my problem?
[04:17] <brenner> stoned: if they're not all there.  hit the forum.  that's a common question
[04:17] <whyami> amphi: yes I tried the standard stuff recommended there and all of it disables the stick instead...
[04:17] <wastrel> Trilom:  does lspci show the nic's in the machine?
[04:17] <amphi> whyami: not what anyone sane would want...
[04:17] <Delvien> nalioth you there?
[04:17] <Fujitsu> Why wouldn't youm crxyem?
[04:17] <amphi> Delvien: the power option to iwconfig any good to you?
[04:17] <Trilom> wasterel: Elaborate please.
[04:18] <Delvien> amphi i dont know , what is it
[04:18] <Fujitsu> *you, crxyem?
[04:18] <amphi> Delvien: man iwconfig is at your disposal ;)
[04:18] <wastrel> Trilom:  lspci shows your pci devices, look in the output for something that resembles a network card.
[04:18] <crxyem> hello Delvien
[04:18] <wastrel> Trilom:  for example 0000:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BD PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet
[04:18] <wastrel> Controller (rev 82)
[04:18] <amphi> Delvien: I haven't used it, so I have nothing to add to the manpage
[04:18] <Delvien> crxyem hi
[04:18] <stoned> that would be under Regional & accesiblity > keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol?
[04:19] <brenner> Fujitsu: you must really like mark taylor. :P
[04:19] <sgtbaker> Can anyone give me a quick hand? Im having SMB permissions issues
[04:19] <Fujitsu> brenner: ?
[04:19] <Trilom> wastrel: Okie dokie, brb.
[04:19] <jasonjdp> my keyboard isnt working on my installer on my amd64 nforce4 machine... whats up with that?
[04:19] <sgtbaker> Whenever I go to connect to the SMB share, be it from my Ubuntu box or Windoze box asks for a username and pw
[04:19] <brenner> Fujitsu: your nick.
[04:19] <crxyem> Del: here's a q for you, se tup ndiswrapper, and I have to set all parameters with iwconfig everytime I bootup to get my wireless working
[04:19] <Fujitsu> Ahh
[04:20] <Fujitsu> There is a nice story behind my nick. I didn't assign it to myself...
[04:20] <nickrud> Fujitsu, you were blessed?
[04:20] <crxyem> shouldn't that only be configured once ??
[04:21] <Delvien> crxyem breezy or dapper?
[04:21] <Fujitsu> I had an account on a friend's Linux system about 3 years ago.
[04:21] <Fujitsu> My username was wgrant.
[04:21] <Trilom> wastrel: YEah it picked up my onboard and the one i have installed
[04:21] <crxyem> breezy
[04:21] <Delvien> crxyem i have sorta the same problem , never been able to get it fixed
[04:22] <Fujitsu> He decided that wgrant was too boring, so started to think up a new one. He happened to have a Fujitsu hard disk next to him.
[04:22] <CaNsA> ok how can i mount my ntfs sata hdd in ubuntu?
[04:22] <CaNsA> i cant watch my telly eps
[04:22] <CaNsA> :(
[04:22] <wastrel> Trilom:  ok jolly.  and what does /etc/network/interfaces look like on that machine..  can you pastebin it?
[04:22] <Trilom> General Question: How would people have Dapper, it isnt out till April right?
[04:22] <TiG4> I have an ATI X700 Pro, and when I installed Breezy it gave me an error when trying to start X Server saying "Failed to start X Server..." any ideas? I tried sudo configure xorg but it didnt work.
[04:22] <crxyem> Delvien: so did you just write a script to load it
[04:22] <nm> CaNs: assuming your kernel has support for NTFS compiled in
[04:22] <tritium> Trilom: development releases are out
[04:22] <zphinx> so like
[04:22] <mustard5> crxyem, have you made an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for it?
[04:22] <nickrud> Fujitsu, lol, talk about serendipitous
[04:22] <nm> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda# /somemountpoint
[04:22] <CaNsA> erm... the latest version of ubuntu
[04:22] <wastrel> Trilom:  there's dapper cd's out and you can upgrade to it - it's in active development, anyone can try it
[04:22] <Trilom> tritium: arr gotcha thanks.
[04:22] <zphinx> is ssl tunred off in the unbutu package for vsftpd?
[04:22] <CaNsA> got it today
[04:23] <Trilom> Nah ill just wait till Final is released
[04:23] <Trilom> ok brb to check that.
[04:23] <zphinx> for some reason vsftpd wont start for me when i use enable_ssl
[04:23] <Delvien> crxyem nah , i just installed wifi radar and put it in session ( set it up to only connect to your ap)
[04:23] <CaNsA> nm, how would i find out?
[04:23] <brad_teenbot> Man i love Gaim messenger because you are able to tell if someone is blocking you or not its freakin awsome
[04:23] <TiG4> I have an ATI X700 Pro, and when I installed Breezy it gave me an error when trying to start X Server saying "Failed to start X Server..." any ideas? I tried sudo configure xorg but it didnt work.
[04:23] <jasonjdp> anybody ever had their keyboard not respond in the installer? when you are selecting language?
[04:24] <nickrud> CaNsA, lsb_release -a
[04:24] <CaNsA> in a treminal yeah?
[04:24] <CaNsA> terminal*
[04:24] <nickrud> CaNsA, yeah
[04:24] <CaNsA> kk
[04:24] <crxyem> Delvien: I'll give that a shot
[04:25] <crxyem> mustard5:  I have not
[04:25] <odla> brad_teenbot: do you get blocked a lot?
[04:25] <brenner> TiG4: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <CaNsA> njm brezzy 5.10
[04:25] <jacquesmerde> anyone here good with asfxload?
[04:25] <mustard5> crxyem, k..well reading over the wifi how to on the wiki, it seems thats a necessary step
[04:25] <nm> i'm not a big ubuntu guy
[04:25] <nm> just testing it out
[04:25] <mustard5> crxyem, I don't use wifi myself, so its a bit of a mystery
[04:25] <nm> does breezy ship with ntfs support?
[04:25] <nickrud> nm, yes
[04:26] <TiG4> brenner, i tried that but it didnt work
[04:26] <nm> cans: you should be ok then
[04:26] <crxyem> mustard5: I assume it should be something like "iface wanl0 inet dhcp"
[04:26] <rukuartic> Does anything have "true" ntfs support?
[04:26] <brenner> nm: read-only
[04:26] <tritium> nm: _read_ support
[04:26] <hit> nm: yes
[04:26] <brad_teenbot> odla, no not really its just nice to know whos blocking you :)
[04:26] <nm> brenner: all ntfs support is read-only
[04:26] <nickrud> rukuartic, windows
[04:26] <duckdown> How the hell can I open a root shell with sudo?  This typing 'sudo' before every command crap is driving me nuts.
[04:26] <rukuartic> nickrud, Haha
[04:26] <mustard5> crxyem, I'll show you the link if you like and see if you can make sense of it. :)
[04:26] <tritium> duckdown: sudo -i
[04:26] <nm> brenner: i don't count being able to modify files without changing their length as actual write support :P
[04:26] <TiG4> brenner, any other ideas? do you think its because im using ATI?
[04:26] <duckdown> tritium:  thank Christ
[04:26] <duckdown> thanks
[04:26] <mustard5> crxyem, half way down the page  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:26] <nickrud> duckdown, sudo -[i
[04:26] <brenner> nm: actually, i thought there were distros w/ proprietary drivers that can write
[04:26] <crxyem> yeah send me the link I may have read it already , but I'll give a try again
[04:26] <babo> I've a weird apache problem ...
[04:27] <nickrud> |s]  :)
[04:27] <nm> brenner: perhaps with proprietary drivers, i havn't seen or used them though
[04:27] <mustard5> crxyem, under the heading Adding it to /etc/network/interfaces
[04:27] <Trilom> wastrel: It said Bash: permission denied
[04:27] <nickrud> brenner, captive_ntfs, but is very experimental
[04:27] <wastrel> Trilom:  what did you try to do?
[04:27] <ivo_> Hi again i got one qvestion where i can get a video driverS?
[04:27] <babo> according to synaptic my libapache-mod-php5 is installed, but when I check mods-available it's not there. Also my server won't parse .php pages.
[04:27] <TiG4> ivo_ Hi again i got one qvestion where i can get a video driverS?
[04:27] <mustard5> crxyem, something about commenting out autolan then adding some lines interfaces
[04:28] <j1p> I am having a problem with the realplayer mozilla plugin, I think i need to "Make sure a symbolic link to the realplay script is in your PATH" according to mozilla docs, but it doesnt tell me how to do that, so can anyone point me in the right direction to do that?
[04:28] <rukuartic> I've got a hard drive on my box, but Linux hasn't recognize it... Where would I look for unmounted hard drives?
[04:28] <tritium> TiG4: which video drivers?
[04:28] <ivo_> Nvidia
[04:28] <nm> rukuartic: fdisk -l
[04:28] <Trilom> type "/etc/network/intefaces
[04:28] <crxyem> mustard5:: sweet wiki info I haven't seen that one yet, I'll have to try it
[04:28] <TiG4> tritium, I have an ATI X700 but it fails to start Xserver, any ideas?
[04:28] <mustard5> crxyem, k
[04:28] <nickrud> j1p, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallHowto
[04:28] <rukuartic> nm, Its not listed...
[04:28] <Trilom> *"/tec/network/interfaces"
[04:28] <j1p> thanks nick
[04:28] <aslkzxmn> hello all :)
[04:28] <tritium> TiG4: did you follow the ATI wiki page?
[04:28] <rukuartic> nm, But I can boot from it...
[04:28] <babo> can anyone help with my apache woes ... ?
[04:29] <TiG4> link?
[04:29] <rukuartic> babo, Tried xampp?
[04:29] <nm> rukuartic: you can boot linux from it, but it isn't listed by that command?
[04:29] <tritium> !ati
[04:29] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:29] <wastrel> Trilom:  /etc/network/interfaces is a configuration file (most things in /etc are) not a program.
[04:29] <babo> rukuartic: xampp ? ... the music player ?
[04:29] <tritium> follow that wiki URL above, TiG4
[04:29] <wastrel> Trilom:  what ip address do you want to give that machine?
[04:29] <rukuartic> nm, I've got two hard drives. Linux and Windows. It can boot form both drives, but it won't recognize the Windows drive in Linux
[04:29] <jasonjdp> anybody install ubuntu on a amd64 nforce4 mobo? i cant... keyboard doesnt respond on the installer when need to select language...
[04:29] <rukuartic> babo, No, the Apache/Php/MySQL/ProFTPd package
[04:29] <j1p> nickrud: that page does not exist
[04:30] <nickrud> j1p, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealplayerInstallationMethods , sorry
[04:30] <j1p> thanks
[04:30] <ivo_> Hey people where i can find a Video drivers for ubuntu
[04:30] <ivo_> ?
[04:30] <Trilom> wastrel: Um the it doesnt matter.
[04:30] <tritium> ivo_: in the repositories
[04:30] <nickrud> j1p, I knew I was wrong, I hoped to beat you :)
[04:30] <babo> rukuartic: what would that do for me exactly ?
[04:30] <Trilom> wastrel: I dont really want a set one.
[04:30] <wastrel> Trilom:  you want dhcp?
[04:30] <ivo_> can u explane me plz ?
[04:30] <j1p> haha, no problem, a link to the right page was on the page you gave me :)
[04:30] <rukuartic> babo, Whats your apache problem?
[04:30] <tritium> !tell ivo_ about nvidia
[04:30] <wastrel> Trilom:  what ip address is on the current machine you're on
[04:30] <rukuartic> babo, Setting up? or
[04:30] <babo> rukuartic: my apache server won't parse php or .phtml
[04:31] <rukuartic> babo, Do you have PHP installed?
[04:31] <babo> rukuartic: according to synaptic ... yes
[04:31] <ivo_> plz
[04:31] <Trilom> wastrel: PM'ed it to you.
[04:31] <wastrel> kk
[04:31] <brenner> ivo_: what card?
[04:31] <Trilom> wastrel: and what is dhcp?
[04:32] <wastrel> heh you need a crash course don't you :] 
[04:32] <ivo_> Geforce fx 500
[04:32] <rukuartic> babo, A simple workaround would be to go to http://apachefriends.com (I think thats it) and use that. But if you want to learn to do it yourself
[04:32] <tritium> ivo_: I had ubout send you the info
[04:32] <Trilom> Haha yeah just run it by me quickally.
[04:32] <brenner> ubotu: tell ivo_ about nvidia
[04:32] <wastrel> ok i think your network cards may just need to be configured...
[04:32] <Trilom> Im a fast learner
[04:32] <ivo_> ohh tnx
[04:32] <jasonjdp> anybody install ubuntu on a amd64 nforce4 mobo? i cant... keyboard doesnt respond on the installer when need to select language...
[04:32] <Trilom> Ok..
[04:32] <tritium> ivo_: did you find it?
[04:32] <biovore> jasonjdp: yup
[04:32] <jasonjdp> ;-(
[04:32] <ivo_> im loking
[04:32] <rukuartic> babo, You should look around http://www.google.com/search?q=install+apache+php+linux here
[04:32] <babo> rukuaric: well, yeah, - I've installed tons of apache servers before ... but the debian distro's seem to have a different way of doing things
[04:32] <jasonjdp> wonder if my kvm switcher may be the prob... ;-(
[04:32] <biovore> jasonjdp: works just fine here..  must be a glitch with your mobo
[04:33] <jasonjdp> keyboard works in windows and bios...
[04:33] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[04:33] <rukuartic> babo, http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html this makes it really easy. all you have to do is extract to /opt and run /opt/lampp/lampp start
[04:33] <henzo> Hello EnsignRedshirt
[04:33] <babo> rukuartic: again, I know how to install apache. what I don't know though is why this install isn't working
[04:34] <biovore> jasonjdp: intressting.. try booting with the splash disabled and see if you seen anything about the i8025 serio controller on the kernel boot
[04:34] <rukuartic> babo, <-- I'm a noob. Just trying to help with what I can
[04:34] <tritium> rukuartic: there are ubuntu packages for all he needs
[04:34] <ivo_> ohh i can"t fing i bad know english =\
[04:34] <Trilom> wastrel: how would i configure it?
[04:34] <babo> rukuartic: I'd rather stick with the .deb file if I can. BTW I appreciate your help though, I really do.
[04:34] <wastrel> sec.
[04:34] <Trilom> wastrel: gotcha
[04:34] <rukuartic> babo, No problem :)
[04:34] <wastrel> Trilom:  join #wastrel
[04:34] <thought> hey any of you running kde with ubuntu
[04:35] <rukuartic> Any dangers in mounting filesystems? Don't want to mess up my stuff.
[04:35] <henzo> hey, i got a doubt
[04:35] <babo> rukuartic: ok - all the best and thanks again
[04:35] <rukuartic> thought, been looking into it... I'm curious
[04:35] <brenner> ivo_: what's your native language?
[04:35] <rukuartic> babo, Good luck fixing your problem
[04:35] <ivo_> Latvian
[04:35] <nickrud> thought, the kde'ers are usually on #kubuntu
[04:35] <jacquesmerde> anyone got any good soundfonts to test out with dapper?
[04:36] <mustard5> ivo_, what type of nvidia card?
[04:36] <EnsignRedshirt> How do I enable the "breezy-updates" repository with Synaptic?  According to comments by Sebastien Bocher in bugzilla, version 0.4.0-0ubuntu4.1 of evince is supposed to be in breezy-updates.
[04:36] <henzo> need support for the audio of a *.wmv
[04:36] <tritium> jacquesmerde: TimesNewRoman.ogg ;)
[04:36] <brenner> nickrud: they ususally come in here b/c it's more active
[04:36] <ivo_> i don"t understand
[04:36] <henzo> can anyone help me, please?
[04:36] <nickrud> brenner, yeah, I wanna kostrasize them ;p
[04:37] <henzo> I use gnome
[04:37] <jacquesmerde> tritium: nah, ogg compression just cant do tnw justice
[04:37] <crx_yem> I'm actually running kubuntu
[04:37] <ivo_> this 2.6.12-9-386
[04:37] <nickrud> henzo, so do I, for a long time. What's your question?
[04:37] <ivo_>  ?
[04:37] <mustard5> ivo_, what is the version of the nvidia graphics card you have?
[04:37] <jasonjdp> biovore, thnx
[04:37] <ivo_> Geforce fx 5000
[04:37] <tritium> jacquesmerde: heh
[04:37] <mustard5> ivo_, ah ok
[04:37] <mustard5> ivo_, well i can show you how to install drivers
[04:37] <henzo> I need to listen an archive that have the extension wmv
[04:37] <biovore> jasonjdp: U using a usb keyboard?
[04:37] <ivo_> yeee
[04:38] <mustard5> ivo_, wait while I get the instructions....
[04:38] <jasonjdp> no, ps2
[04:38] <brenner> ubotu: tell henzo about restricted
[04:38] <ivo_> ok ok  :)
[04:38] <henzo> I see it in totem
[04:38] <nickrud> henzo, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, especially the part about Codecs
[04:38] <stoned> so I install hotkeys, and configure /etc/hotkeys.conf, then I run xev and hit the extra key, then it tells me which keypress code was sent. how do i assign a command to that keycode etc.?
[04:38] <henzo> tahnks nickrud
[04:38] <henzo> I do it
[04:38] <henzo> bye bye
[04:39] <mustard5> ivo_, open a terminal...
[04:39] <brenner> sound doesn't work for me in some wmv files though...
[04:39] <nickrud> henzo, hang around until you got it right
[04:39] <mustard5> ivo_, do this command    sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:39] <mustard5> ivo_, tell me when you have done that
[04:39] <southern> re
[04:39] <nickrud> brenner, I've been told it's usually drm that screws with wmv
[04:39] <southern> my MC is ugly why????
[04:40] <jasonjdp> brb
[04:40] <nickrud> southern, on the virtual terminal? welcome to the club.
[04:40] <brenner> nickrud: so it's common for the file to still be able to load and play ... just no sound?
[04:40] <brenner> sometiimes it cuts in and out too
[04:41] <nickrud> brenner, I get green pixellation on many files; recently mplayer and totem seem to recognize some of those files and tell me they are encrypted.
[04:41] <ivo_> look
[04:41] <ivo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9097
[04:41] <southern> no virtual terminal
[04:41] <mustard5> ivo_, k..looking now
[04:41] <ivo_> :)
[04:41] <southern> nickrud
[04:41] <southern> could you explain it?
[04:41] <cradek> !network install
[04:41] <ubotu> cradek: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:41] <mustard5> ivo_, you have another program open that is stopping that command from working....close the synaptic package manager
[04:42] <nickrud> southern, it's a font thing, I'm assuming (bad line drawing?)
[04:42] <ivo_> ok
[04:42] <LiteHedded> !ati
[04:42] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:42] <RememberPOL> Will alsa v 1.0.10 or upcoming 1.0.11 packages be available for Ubuntu Breezy?
[04:42] <ivo_> now downloading
[04:42] <mustard5> ivo_, k..tell me when its done
[04:42] <crimsun> RememberPOL: 1.0.10
[04:42] <ivo_> oke :)
[04:43] <crimsun> RememberPOL: we've backported fixes from .11rc where appropriate
[04:43] <southern> nickrud: no probleme with fonts
[04:43] <nickrud> southern, in gnome-terminal mc is fine, in a virtual terminal it's looked bad for years.
[04:43] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Into Breezy updates or for the upcoming v6.04?
[04:43] <crimsun> RememberPOL: in Dapper (6.04)
[04:43] <nickrud> never needed to fix it, personally.
[04:43] <sambagirl> can you make an image to a cdrom with ubuntu live cd so i can make a xp cdrom to fix my probelm maybe?
[04:43] <brenner> brad_teenbot: crimsun is in.  if you're still having problems, he's the guy to go to
[04:43] <RememberPOL> So I have to wait three months
[04:43] <RememberPOL> lol
[04:44] <sambagirl> here is a better equestion
[04:44] <brenner> brad_teenbot: *sound problems that is
[04:44] <RememberPOL> My sound card has issues than are fixed in 1.0.11rc3
[04:44] <RememberPOL> than=that*
[04:44] <crimsun> RememberPOL: no, it's straightforward to build alsa-driver for your Breezy system
[04:44] <sambagirl> i have a backpack cd-rewriter can i make a cd with ubuntu ? i would be making a XP corporate cd
[04:44] <rukuartic> Can someone help me mount my NTFS hard drive? Linux doesn't seem to be seeing it.
[04:44] <ivo_> Done i got this
[04:44] <ivo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9098
[04:44] <ivo_> look :)
[04:45] <sambagirl> rukartic
[04:45] <Phocion> hey all. tried this in #nx but no response yet.  hope someone here is good with FreeNX
[04:45] <nickrud> brad_teenbot, the expert is in
[04:45] <Phocion> got FreeNX running, can authenticate properly, but then I get an error simply saying "Session 'PhocionBox' failed."
[04:45] <sambagirl> what is the os your in?
[04:45] <Phocion> i see one warning: Warning: Connected to remote NXPROXY version 1.4.0 with local version 1.5.0.
[04:45] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Oh I know I was just wondering if there would be an upgradable package.
[04:45] <RememberPOL> Heh
[04:45] <southern> is there any file manager?
[04:45] <RememberPOL> I'll wait for late April to roll around ;)
[04:45] <Phocion> i updated apt so I have the most current version
[04:45] <southern> workable file manager?
[04:45] <crimsun> RememberPOL: in Dapper, yes, there is.
[04:45] <RememberPOL> southern: nautilus
[04:45] <EnsignRedshirt> According to the comments at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17935, there is supposed to be a new version of evince in breezy-updates.  Does this version exist?  I'm pretty sure I have the updates repository enabled.
[04:45] <RememberPOL> crimsun: kk
[04:45] <mustard5> ivo_, now do this command  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:45] <sambagirl> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -o umask=000
[04:45] <RememberPOL> crimsun: I'm sure Dapper will be great
[04:45] <sambagirl> thiat will mount it
[04:46] <nickrud> southern, mc in a terminal is good, there's also gentoo, a very flexible(customizable) manager
[04:46] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Do you know if there's any Inter Pro 802.11g WPA2 support? (rather than WEP only)
[04:46] <axylfyre> hey all
[04:46] <scarter> anyone else here using 3gpwiz on dapper?
[04:46] <odla> southern: try worker..it rocks!
[04:46] <nickrud> scarter, try asking about dapper on #ubuntu+1
[04:47] <ivo_> i got this =\ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9099
[04:47] <nickrud> scarter, depends on who's around
[04:47] <scarter> nickrud: ok, how about on breezy?
[04:47] <scarter> lol
[04:47] <southern> nickrud what do you mean virtual terminal?
[04:47] <scarter> or hoary, I have that one running too
[04:47] <nickrud> scarter, what the heck is 3gpwiz :)
[04:47] <crimsun> RememberPOL: I only track ipw2200 consistently. If that driver's using wext now, then it should.
[04:47] <rukuartic> Must have my pins messed up
[04:47] <wastrel> <3 ipw2200
[04:47] <scarter> frontend for ffmpeg to convert vid files to 3gp/mp4
[04:47] <scarter> for ipod or phone video
[04:48] <scarter> combines ffmpeg with AAC support and converts the vid files
[04:48] <nickrud> southern, alt-ctl-f1 gets you a virtual terminal ; Apps->Accessories->Terminal gets you a gnome-terminal
[04:48] <brenner> nickrud: is gentoo-fm related to the distro?
[04:48] <sambagirl> crimsun thank you and mustard5 too
[04:48] <crimsun> sambagirl: NP
[04:48] <odla> brenner: no
[04:48] <nickrud> brenner, no, much older than gentoo the distro
[04:48] <crimsun> (sorry about the caps)
[04:48] <Phocion> All I get this when I connect to FreeNX: "Warning: Connected to remote NXPROXY version 1.4.0 with local version 1.5.0."  DO I have to downgrade my NX WIndows client?
[04:48] <mustard5> ivo_, ok..thats good.  they are installed now....when you log out and log back in...you should see a white nvidia logo
[04:48] <RememberPOL> crimsun: wext?
[04:48] <mustard5> sambagirl, np
[04:49] <brenner> odla, nickrud:  ta
[04:49] <ivo_> ok im now log out
[04:49] <crimsun> RememberPOL: if the driver has been converted to use the latest wireless extensions in the kernel, then yes
[04:49] <amphi> crimsun: have you played with ipw2200-ap at all?
[04:49] <nickrud> brenner, I used to use that one a lot a while back
[04:49] <southern> I don't use graphical mode
[04:49] <Gotti> hullo all
[04:49] <crimsun> amphi: no
[04:49] <southern> I don't use x
[04:49] <RememberPOL> crimsun: ah ok
[04:49] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone running breezy: what package version of evince do you have?
[04:49] <IdleOne> anybody know how I start up a eggdrop via ssh?
[04:49] <nickrud> southern, your loss ;P
[04:50] <southern> :P
[04:50] <nickrud> EnsignRedshirt, 0.4.0-0ubuntu4
[04:50] <amphi> southern: mc seems fine in a VT here
[04:50] <nandemonai> Hi people, is there a ubuntu channel for amd64?
[04:50] <amphi> southern: perhaps you need to change you console font?
[04:50] <southern> could you help me?
[04:51] <mustard5> ivo_, did you see the white screen?
[04:51] <ivo_> ok im back :) where is the white logo ? :)
[04:51] <sambagirl> is it possible to use a backpack external serial port cd writer with ubuntu?
[04:51] <ivo_> nop
[04:51] <amphi> southern: consolechars -f some_font
[04:51] <EnsignRedshirt> nickrud: Thanks, same here.  There is supposed to be a 0.4.0-0ubunut4.1 in "breezy updates", but I don't see it.
[04:51] <mustard5> ivo_, hmmm...
[04:51] <brenner> nandemonai: no, not afaik.
[04:51] <sambagirl> wha does afaik mean?
[04:51] <Gotti> as far as i know
[04:51] <amphi> southern: fonts are in /usr/share/consolefonts IIRC - remove the .psf.gz for consolechars
[04:51] <sambagirl> ahh
[04:51] <ivo_> =\
[04:51] <EnsignRedshirt> s/ubunut/ubuntu/
[04:52] <nandemonai> brenner, okies well I'll ask here once I get some basic info...
[04:52] <mustard5> ivo_, I'm just trying to think how you can test it
[04:52] <YogSothoth> Is there a way when I use sudo it uses the /root/.bashrc so I can use root aliases to sudo commands?
[04:52] <brenner> nandemonai: there always seems to be a few 64 users in here though
[04:52] <ivo_> :)
[04:52] <ivo_> oke
[04:52] <brad_teenbot> Is there a Sound specialist in here? lol
[04:53] <nandemonai> Essentialy I noticed on the forums that the ubuntu64 image has issues and alot of people can't get it to install.. well I did a server install and it worked! but...
[04:53] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: I asked you yesterday; you never responded.
[04:53] <amphi> YogSothoth: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
[04:53] <nickrud> amphi, did that roll off your fingertips, or did you have help?
[04:53] <brad_teenbot> crimsun, sorry i mustve had to run or something
[04:53] <amphi> nickrud: I have an aide-memoire
[04:53] <mustard5> ivo_, can you do a pastebin of this command....  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <EnsignRedshirt> amphi: try #ubuntu-cth
[04:53] <nickrud> amphi, or did you channel Yog-Sogoth
[04:54] <nandemonai> I've tried to install ubuntu-desktop to get gnome and all that going and there seems to be an issue (note I'm using my isp's mirror but I dont think that is the problem)
[04:54] <amphi> nickrud: no
[04:54] <ivo_>  No such file or directory
[04:54] <rukuartic> Oh my goodness!! Gah I feel so dumb.
[04:54] <rukuartic> I was looking around to mount hda...
[04:54] <rukuartic> shoulda been looking for hdb!!
[04:54] <mustard5> ivo_, you might have a might a typing error I think
[04:54] <amphi> nickrud: I just saw the nick and felt... eldritch ;)
[04:54] <nandemonai> Gnome boots but now any apt function outputs this: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[04:54] <nandemonai> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[04:55] <nickrud> amphi, I've always had a soft spot for odd new-englanders, that's why I asked ;)
[04:55] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: so summarise for me
[04:55] <ivo_> mhh
[04:55] <nandemonai> I was told by the system to try and run dpkg --configure -a but that just results in the same error..
[04:55] <mustard5> ivo_, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:55] <ivo_> sudo need?
[04:55] <mustard5> ivo_, no
[04:55] <nandemonai> Any ideas anyone as I'm stumped
[04:55] <nickrud> EnsignRedshirt, I just updated my breezy-backports, but don't see the .1 version here
[04:55] <mustard5> ivo_, they are 'ones'   not the letter 'l'
[04:55] <mustard5> ivo_, and it has to be a captial 'X'
[04:56] <La_PaRCa> Um, any idea as to why _some_ wmv files have choppy sound and others dont?
[04:56] <mustard5> ivo_, you can copy it from the screen in IRC and paste into the terminal too
[04:56] <amphi> nickrud: heh - I came across an infocom game set there, 'anchorhead' I think it was called
[04:56] <EnsignRedshirt> nickrud: The comment by Sebastien Bocher in bugzilla says he put the new version in breezy-updates.
[04:56] <brenner> La_PaRCa: heh.  apparently it's something to do with drm
[04:56] <EnsignRedshirt> s/Bocher/Bacher/
[04:56] <brad_teenbot> crimsun, well eversince i have installed linux ive had absoulutely no sound and the speaker by the clock has an X in front of it and i made sure it isnt muted or anything but i guess its just my soundcard but i have been told i could get it working and thats it
[04:56] <mustard5> ivo_, to copy from screen just select the text...it goes into your clipboard automatically
[04:57] <La_PaRCa> brenner, any workwarounds?
[04:57] <nickrud> EnsignRedshirt, I don't know that repo, a sec
[04:57] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: and which sound card do you have?
[04:57] <LiteHedded> i'm trying to get ati installed but my xserver wont start
[04:57] <LiteHedded> i'm typing this from a big ugly command line!
[04:57] <brenner> La_PaRCa: not that i know.  i'd like to fix the problem too.
[04:57] <amphi> LiteHedded: shurely you mean 'a well-appointed frmaebuffer console" ;)
[04:57] <brenner> La_PaRCa: hence the "heh".
[04:57] <LiteHedded> lol
[04:57] <ivo_> ye its work
[04:57] <nandemonai> So no-one has any suggestions on what I could try?
[04:58] <LiteHedded> please help me! lol
[04:58] <mustard5> ivo_, ok..put in the pastebin and show me
[04:58] <ivo_> ok
[04:58] <brenner> nandemonai: what apt function are you using?
[04:58] <La_PaRCa> brenner, is there a "DRM stripper" of some sort for wmv?
[04:58] <brad_teenbot> crimsun, riptide-0.6lnxtbeta03 122800.tar.gz
[04:58] <odla> LiteHedded: consoles aren't ugly
[04:58] <LiteHedded> at least I have my apt sources set up so I could install irssi without gui
[04:58] <CaNsA> so why cant linux write to an ntfs partition?
[04:58] <amphi> LiteHedded: I can't help you with fglrx I'm afraid, if that's what you're talking about
[04:58] <nm> CanS: because you havn't written the driver yet
[04:58] <LiteHedded> AH!
[04:58] <nickrud> EnsignRedshirt, there is no 0.4.0-1 or whatever in breezy, look at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/e/evince/ (the .5.0 is in dapper)
[04:58] <LiteHedded> yea fglrx
[04:58] <nandemonai> Either upgrade / install (insertpackagenamehere) etc I tried a install -f to no avail too
[04:58] <IdleOne> CaNsA:  because microsoft sux
[04:59] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: um...
[04:59] <LiteHedded> everything went fine until I restarted x
[04:59] <amphi> CaNsA: because ntfs is a secret proprietary file system
[04:59] <nandemonai> brenner, update seems to work
[04:59] <LiteHedded> says "no usable screens found" or something
[04:59] <scarter> does someone have any pointers on where to find info to convert video (mpg, avi, mov) to 3gp/mp4 for iPod or phone playback?
[04:59] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: no, I need the sound card's name, not the name of some file.
[04:59] <CaNsA> that sux
[04:59] <brad_teenbot> its a riptide
[04:59] <amphi> CaNsA: bitch at Bill
[04:59] <LiteHedded> Seveas are you here?
[04:59] <cradek> is there any way to install ubuntu without a CD drive?
[04:59] <LiteHedded> you helped me with ati before
[04:59] <jbroome> cradek: use a dvd drive? :)
[04:59] <nandemonai> brenner, Apt-cache works too so it seems an package install issu
[05:00] <CaNsA> cradek, a dvd drive?
[05:00] <brenner> La_PaRCa: like i said.  i'm just symapthising with you.  i don't know of a fix.  have you hit the forum?
[05:00] <CaNsA> :(
[05:00] <IdleOne> !netinstall
[05:00] <ubotu> IdleOne: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:00] <nandemonai> jbroome, chech out the install docs on the ubuntu site.. try a net install
[05:00] <EnsignRedshirt> nickrud: OK, thanks for checking.  I'll send an email to Sebastien Bacher to see what the story is.
[05:00] <amphi> CaNsA: I believe there is some ndiswrapper-ish thing called captive ntfs, that uses the w32 driver and cn write
[05:00] <cradek> so there's no network install, ok
[05:00] <brad_teenbot> Whats the command to see what my soundcard is in the terminal???
[05:00] <La_PaRCa> brenner, looking around
[05:00] <nickrud> EnsignRedshirt, I hope I don't come out the fool on this ;)
[05:00] <brad_teenbot> i have forgotten
[05:00] <cradek> installed or rip?
[05:00] <ivo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9100
[05:00] <nandemonai> lspci
[05:01] <amphi> brad_teenbot: lspci will show it, if it's a pci card
[05:01] <CaNsA> amphi, do u know if it works?
[05:01] <CaNsA> or if its reliable?
[05:01] <nickrud> EnsignRedshirt, Mr. Bacher's made me feel that way before ;)
[05:01] <amphi> CaNsA: I do not
[05:01] <CaNsA> kk
[05:01] <nm> brad_teenbot: you can also do cat /proc/pci
[05:01] <CaNsA> erm, ill tryt it on worthless data
[05:01] <nm> if lspci isn't available
[05:01] <nandemonai> I don't want to have to try a re-install to fix this
[05:02] <mustard5> ivo_, ok..looking now
[05:02] <brad_teenbot> crimsum, Rockwell International Riptide HCF 56k PCI Modem
[05:02] <wastrel> jimmy
[05:02] <ivo_> okz
[05:02] <crimsun> ugh.
[05:02] <nm> is there support for winmodems these days?
[05:02] <LiteHedded> can anyone help me get my X unhosed?
[05:02] <nm> i havn't had to use dialup in quite some time
[05:02] <mustard5> ivo_, its definitely installed
[05:02] <amphi> nm: ISTR from kernel config that /proc/pci is deprecated...
[05:02] <nm> litehedded: paste a log of your errors into the pastebin and i'll have a look
[05:02] <nandemonai> winmodem support is rare at best
[05:02] <mustard5> ivo_, I will install something else now...something to control the settings
[05:02] <LiteHedded> pastebin!?!
[05:02] <LiteHedded> i have no gui!
[05:02] <nickrud> nm, I have my ugly pci modem working, but it's an LT, almost open source
[05:02] <LiteHedded> maybe if I install lynx lol
[05:03] <nandemonai> LiteHedded, links2
[05:03] <ivo_> okeee :)
[05:03] <amphi> LiteHedded: lynx or w3m are but an apt-get away
[05:03] <nm> you don't have lynx installed already?
[05:03] <nm> ;p
[05:03] <LiteHedded> how do I copy text with no mouse?
[05:03] <mustard5> ivo_, do this command now...  sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[05:03] <EnsignRedshirt> nickrud: I wouldn't worry.  Maybe he just never updated the package--for a good reason--but didn't add another comment to the bug report.
[05:03] <amphi> LiteHedded: install gpm already
[05:03] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: are you using breezy/
[05:03] <LiteHedded> gpm?
[05:03] <nm> amphi: alot of decent stuff is going that way it seems
[05:03] <nm> devfs > udev
[05:03] <nm> imo
[05:03] <nickrud> EnsignRedshirt, quite possible. The man is overloaded, from what I read
[05:03] <amphi> nm: yeah
[05:03] <amphi> nm: I'm still using static /dev ;)
[05:03] <brad_teenbot> crimsum, um i am new at this linux scene so i have no idea of what breezy is lol
[05:03] <nm> nice
[05:04] <nm> i remember reading about devfs
[05:04] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: it's the version of Ubuntu you installed. lsb_release -r
[05:04] <nm> and thinking exactly that
[05:04] <nm> why don't we all just keep using static dev
[05:04] <nm> hehe
[05:04] <ivo_> i can"t write my pasword
[05:04] <ivo_> its freeze :)
[05:04] <amphi> nm: it works up until now, and udev seems to give many people grief - maybe when 2.8 comes out I'll switch ;)
[05:04] <mustard5> ivo_, freeze?
[05:04] <nickrud> nm, I wanted to come up with a line, but 'i remember reading about devfs' makes me want to cry
[05:05] <ivo_> yea
[05:05] <IdleOne> brad_teenbot:  type lsb_release -a
[05:05] <IdleOne>  in terminal and it will tell you the version of ubuntu you are using
[05:05] <brad_teenbot> crimsum, i really dont know because one of my buddies has installed it for me but i think its like the full version ubuntu
[05:05] <LiteHedded> says no useable sreens found
[05:05] <nm> nickrud: hehe
[05:05] <riddlebox> what do I need to apt-get to play dvds?
[05:05] <mustard5> ivo_, the terminal?
[05:05] <mustard5> ivo_, or the whole computer?
[05:05] <nickrud> nm, but, I did boot lnx-bbc yesterday
[05:05] <amphi> riddlebox: mplayer libdvdread libdvdcss
[05:06] <nm> haha
[05:06] <nm> nice
[05:06] <wastrel> brad_teenbot:  he wants you to type   lsb_release -r    into a terminal window
[05:06] <ivo_> yes ai write the comand and then i need to write a paswor and a nothing i can"t write
[05:06] <riddlebox> amphi, I do not see libdvdcss in there at all
[05:06] <glicks> excuse me what package is system call manual pages in?
[05:06] <amphi> !tell riddlebox about dvd
[05:06] <wastrel> brad_teenbot:  and tell us what it says
[05:06] <SEJeff> Anyone using dapper why cares to try and reproduce a segfault in Serpentine? It will take 2 minutes of your time
[05:06] <mustard5> ivo_, try close the terminal
[05:06] <CaNsA> anyone tried CAPTIVE NTFS ?
[05:06] <brad_teenbot> crimsum, 5.10 (the breezy badger release)
[05:06] <CaNsA> i see good things about it
[05:06] <nickrud> glicks, I think most of those are in manpages-dev
[05:06] <SEJeff> CaNsA, it is not maintained. That means there is nothing good about it
[05:06] <IdleOne> wastrel:  -a is nicer
[05:06] <glicks> thanks nickrud
[05:06] <amphi> CaNsA: for extremely small values of 'good'
[05:06] <nm> cans: technically there is NTFS write support, you can only modify existing files without changing their size though
[05:06] <brenner> nandemonai: just browsing the forum.  one possibility is a bad install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105304&highlight=process_queue
[05:07] <wastrel> IdleOne:  i was just copying
[05:07] <CaNsA> hmmm
[05:07] <ivo_> Nothing
[05:07] <ivo_> =\
[05:07] <amphi> nm: even with captive ntfs?
[05:07] <CaNsA> so its shit for torrenting to an ntfs?
[05:07] <wastrel> brad_teenbot:  your buddy installed breezy for you
[05:07] <ivo_> im now instaling a packages file
[05:07] <ivo_> mybe wrong?
[05:07] <nm> amphi: i don't know anything about captive ntfs, but i will suggest that if there was reliable write support, it would be included in the kernel
[05:07] <brad_teenbot> wastrel, yeah i guess so is that bad???
[05:08] <mustard5> ivo_, I'm not sure what is happening
[05:08] <nickrud> SEJeff, if you didn't know yet, there's #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[05:08] <mustard5> ivo_, its hard for me to understand from your description
[05:08] <flodine> anyone running dapper and problem free
[05:08] <ivo_> i know
[05:08] <nm> amphi: distributions like topologi linux that install over ntfs, use a windows installer to create a huge ntfs file that they can then modify using the kernel ntfs write support
[05:08] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: good. Please follow the instructions that are being sent to you.
[05:08] <relachs> asymmetry: you there?
[05:08] <crimsun> !tell brad_teenbot about alsa-source
[05:08] <SEJeff> nickrud, I must have missed that, explain it briefly plz?
[05:08] <amphi> nm: AfAIR captive ntfs as some ndiswrapper-like, er, wrapper around the windows ntfs driver
[05:08] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: you need to choose the "riptide" driver when you get to the dpkg-reconfigure step.
[05:08] <nm> amphi: ah
[05:08] <SEJeff> nickrud, I'm trying to reproduce something before filing a bug in lp
[05:08] <nickrud> SEJeff, a new channel; see topic (I got good feedback there today)
[05:09] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: also, please spell my nickname correctly, else anything you address to me is liable to get lost in the backscroll.
[05:09] <amphi> nm: but I could well be wrong, having no practical interest in it
[05:09] <ivo_> ok me log out mybe this helps
[05:09] <SEJeff> nickrud, Awesome! thanks
[05:09] <nm> amphi: my thoughts are about the same ;)
[05:09] <nm> i don't need ntfs write-support
[05:09] <mustard5> ivo_, k
[05:09] <Xenguy> brad_teenbot: easiest way to do that is nick completion (hit the tab key)
[05:09] <nickrud> SEJeff, I've got other issues with dapper, so I'm not running it right now
[05:09] <nm> the only possible use for it would be repairing windows systems completely from linux, including data backup and restoration
[05:10] <relachs> windows xp deleted the ubuntu partition, i am 99% sure i selected NOT the ubunutu partition
[05:10] <nm> and even then, the good old A+ methods for repairing windows machines
[05:10] <SEJeff> nickrud, I got Xgl/compiz working easily. Thats the sole reason I'm running it
[05:10] <nm> are fine
[05:10] <duckdown> Hey all.. I am having an extremely annoying problem with Dapper 4..  My touchpad on the laptop is moving SUPER-SLOW in X.. I can't figure out how to fix it.. I tried adjusting the "Pointer acceleration" under the "mouse" menu in KDE System Config but that didn't work.. Someone help please! :(
[05:10] <Gotti> use gnome ;)
[05:10] <ivo_> whats be the comand of settings?
[05:11] <brenner> that's irrelevant.  he needs to tweak his xorg settings
[05:11] <mustard5> ivo_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[05:11] <nickrud> SEJeff, I have to use this machine for work, so playing with dapper is just that. A laptop is in the future, so this machine can be a toy
[05:11] <brenner> duckdown: is this a synaptics touchpad?
[05:11] <duckdown> brenner: I believe so..
[05:11] <nandemonai> ok, in regard to my ubuntu64 apt/dpkg probs, I've just noticed this in my mail box... http://pastebin.com/566225
[05:11] <ivo_> Only for this comand freze
[05:11] <ivo_> =\
[05:11] <brad_teenbot> Oh boy i am so confused, im used to windows and trying to get used to linux lol
[05:11] <wastrel> bah
[05:11] <mustard5> ivo_, very strange...try rebooting first
[05:11] <mustard5> ivo_, look for the 'white screen'
[05:11] <nandemonai> The first suggestion for xorg.conf was already in the file but the second files mentioned.. neither exists...
[05:12] <amphi> Xenguy: which unstable tree? 2.6? ;)
[05:12] <graft> hey SEJeff are yourunning gnome or KDE?
[05:12] <Xenguy> nm: that's one reason I switched from Debian unstable to Ubu, was so I could have most of the unstable goodness in a fairly stable state :-)
[05:12] <southern> guys
[05:12] <ivo_> ok i rebote
[05:12] <nandemonai> Does this look related? font issues maybe?
[05:12] <Xenguy> amphi: no, post-breezy :-)
[05:12] <nm> xenguy: i've never been a debian fan, just testing out ubuntu since it seems to be growing in popularity
[05:12] <southern> how can I remove downloaded .deb files?
[05:12] <amphi> Xenguy: ah
[05:12] <brenner> duckdown: here's my relvant section: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9101
[05:12] <nm> southern: rm
[05:12] <nm> ;D
[05:12] <duckdown> brenner: thanks let me take a look
[05:12] <amphi> southern: apt-get clean
[05:12] <nandemonai> southern, /var/cache/apt/archives.. delete hte .debs
[05:13] <La_PaRCa> brenner, got your problem solved
[05:13] <southern> thx
[05:13] <nickrud> Xenguy, I've had more problems with stability in Ubuntu than I ever did with unstable; but it's all good
[05:13] <nandemonai> or apt-get clean is easier I guess heh
[05:13] <brenner> La_PaRCa: nice. what's the fix?
[05:13] <Xenguy> nm: ubuntu is based on debian, and before Ubu existed I used Debian and loved it.  I would still use it for a production server probably
[05:13] <La_PaRCa> brenner, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=136306&postcount=2
[05:13] <wastrel> deebyan
[05:13] <mark_> is anyone familiar with file permissoins?
[05:13] <cwillu_> If I say Ubuntu, Mozilla and Sluggish, all together in the same sentence, does anybody know what I'm talking about?
[05:13] <nickrud> mark_, sure
[05:13] <Xenguy> nickrud: I hear you, but AFAICT Ubu inherits Debian's solidiy by and large
[05:13] <wastrel> !anyone
[05:13] <amphi> mark_: no, no one ;)
[05:13] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[05:13] <nm> xenguy: i won't start a distribution debate in here, but i'll say that i don't like debian and wouldn't use it for production servers
[05:14] <SEJeff> to whoever asked earlier, I am running compiz under gnome
[05:14] <nandemonai> So no-one can offer any advice?
[05:14] <graft> it's pronounced deh-bee-en
[05:14] <IdleOne> !tell cwillu_  about firefox1.5
[05:14] <jacquesmerde> is there a command to find out which package a file came from?
[05:14] <crimsun> brad_teenbot: those instructions are executed in a Terminal/Konsole.
[05:14] <brenner> duckdown: have a look at /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/README.gz
[05:14] <crimsun> jacquesmerde: dpkg -S foo
[05:14] <nickrud> Xenguy, yeah, I always wondered why I had stability problems, I just write them off as PEBKAC
[05:14] <graft> jacquesmerde: dpkg -S
[05:14] <amphi> jacquesmerde: dpkg -S <file>
[05:14] <graft> crum!
[05:14] <Xenguy> nm: umm, Ubuntu is completely based on debian though
[05:14] <mark_> I have my hardrive partitioned so 3 way "/" "sda3" and "sda4"
[05:15] <brenner> La_PaRCa: awesome, thanks.
[05:15] <nm> xenguy: i realize that, this isn't a production server ;)
[05:15] <cwillu_> does that mean there's a known issue with mozilla, and I should switch to firefox?
[05:15] <jacquesmerde> thanks guys!
[05:15] <La_PaRCa> brenner, should I add that to the wiki? seems to be a generalized problem.
[05:15] <nm> xenguy: my dislike of debian based on past usage doesn't stop me from making sure i'm familiar with it though
[05:15] <mark_> "sda3" and "sda4" are owned by root and I have been trying to change it so that I don't have to be logged in as root to make changes
[05:15] <IdleOne> cwillu_:  it will run smoother
[05:15] <ivo_> where is be the white screen?
[05:15] <mustard5> ivo_, any white screen this time?
[05:15] <ivo_> on desktop?
[05:15] <nm> mark_: add 'user' as an option in /etc/fstab
[05:15] <nandemonai> mark_, chown
[05:15] <brenner> La_PaRCa: what page are you considering?
[05:15] <mustard5> ivo_, normally it appears just before you get to the log in screen
[05:15] <wastrel> nandemonai:  not chown
[05:16] <nm> nandemonai: chowning the device files won't really work
[05:16] <brenner> La_PaRCa: or do you mean creating a new one?
[05:16] <Xenguy> nm: Debian rocks, period, particularly for server-only IMHO.  That's my story :-)
[05:16] <amphi> mark_: the devices should be owned by root - don't mess about in /dev unless you know what thou doest ;)
[05:16] <nandemonai> oh right whole drive my bad
[05:16] <La_PaRCa> brenner, just put it there as a note in RestrictedFormats
[05:16] <ivo_> nop i don't get a white screen =\
[05:16] <nandemonai> I'll be quite now..
[05:16] <manthar> allo
[05:16] <nm> xenguy: i use gentoo or fedora core 4 for servers, depending on who i am setting it up for
[05:16] <manthar> qq1 parle francias
[05:16] <mustard5> ivo_, ok
[05:16] <wastrel> !fr
[05:16] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:16] <mark_> it is an empty partition that I want to have my storage stuff on
[05:16] <nickrud> Xenguy, I ran unstable for over 3 years, no reinstall. Bragged, then installed ubuntu. Instant humility.
[05:16] <mustard5> ivo_, try that command again   sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[05:17] <Xenguy> nm: OK, well that's just a difference of taste -- I would never use either for production server environment, but that is just me
[05:17] <southern> it doesn't work: ssh southern@localhost
[05:17] <cwillu_> Okay, I'll give that a try;  in the mean time, I'm interested in troubleshooting this somewhat;  I quite prefer mozilla over firefox (although I've used both)
[05:17] <southern> whyM
[05:17] <southern> why?
[05:17] <brenner> La_PaRCa: yeah.  sounds like a good idea.
[05:17] <amphi> southern: sshd is not running?
[05:17] <cwillu_> any chance that the same fix (using the mozilla.org build) would apply to mozilla itself?
[05:17] <southern> yes
[05:18] <Xenguy> nickrud: heh, that's funny.  I ran unstable for a couple of years on the desktop, and never had a major problem (yes, I was cautious as hell with upgrades :-)
[05:18] <graft> cwillu_: why do you prefer mozilla?
[05:18] <ivo_> its again freez
[05:18] <odat> anyone ever configured an onboard NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU]  and get it to work right?
[05:18] <chadwick|359> Can anybody help me get Ekiga working with netmeeting on xp, or suggest another windows compatable program to use?
[05:18] <mustard5> ivo_, ahaha!  I have it :)
[05:19] <mustard5> ivo_, I didnt read one of your pastebins properly :)
[05:19] <defendguin> has anyone tried to get aiglx running on ubuntu yet?
[05:19] <cwillu_> tweakability mainly, a bunch of little things
[05:19] <ivo_> :)
[05:19] <nickrud> Xenguy, likewise. I also had gnome from experimental, and that worked fine with pinning. (I will say no more, because it will become trashing, or me looking really stupid. I know where I would go)
[05:19] <duckdown> brenner: Crap, that didn't fix it in the least.. its not even a bit quicker :(
[05:19] <mustard5> ivo_, the one where you pasted your xorg.conf
[05:19] <nm> damn
[05:19] <nm> i just sent a ton of messages to xenguy
[05:19] <nm> thinking to avoid flooding the chan
[05:19] <nm> and i didn't see the msgs in status
[05:19] <mustard5> ivo_, no..the one where you pasted the output of sudo nvidia-glx-config enable...it said that it couldnt proceed
[05:19] <brenner> duckdown: are you *sure* it's a synaptics touchpad?
[05:20] <Xenguy> nickrud: gah, experimental (and even pinning) makes me shiver ;-)
[05:20] <nm> regarding unregistered users sending messages being disabled
[05:20] <duckdown> brenner: The section in my xorg says its a synaptics
[05:20] <Draconicus> In just a short period of time, Firefox seems to eat an unusual amount of resources while idle, lagging up my minimally equipped system. Any ideas as to what might be the real cause?
[05:20] <Draconicus> Firefox 1.5, that is.
[05:20] <manthar> i have a problem with my sound card sound blaster libe 24 bits
[05:20] <crimsun> manthar: what sort of problem?
[05:20] <OmegaAlpha> hello channel. Busy as usual i see.. seems like this head count never drops below 600 in here.
[05:20] <odat> anyone ever configured an onboard NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU]  and get it to work right?
[05:20] <ivo_> u have the link of my post ?
[05:20] <nickrud> Xenguy, lol
[05:20] <brenner> duckdown: i'm not sure ... maybe it's a dapper issue.  have you hit the forum?
[05:20] <wastrel> sigh
[05:20] <manthar> crimson nothing sound provide
[05:20] <duckdown> brenner:  nope :(
[05:20] <CarlFK> Draconicus: have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingUbuntuLite ?  (very new)
[05:20] <crimsun> manthar: pastebin the output from amixer
[05:20] <Xenguy> nickrud: I just wanted a more stable 'unstable', and I think Ubu gives me that (along with some convenient usability)
[05:20] <graft> Draconicus: impenetrable memory leak of some sort, which firefox is full of it seems like
[05:20] <mustard5> ivo_, try this command again   sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:20] <FlyingSquirrel32> does a user HAVE to have a home folder on a computer to log in?
[05:21] <CarlFK> FlyingSquirrel32: no
[05:21] <mustard5> ivo_, pastebin the output again too please
[05:21] <Madeye> guys, is there an Opensource alternative to x-ten ?
[05:21] <brenner> OmegaAlpha: most of us have two heads
[05:21] <Draconicus> graft: Icky. D:
[05:21] <FlyingSquirrel32> How do I create a new user to work with NIS?
[05:21] <southern> ps aux + grep how? pls an exampe
[05:21] <graft> FlyingSquirrel32: genetic manipulation
[05:22] <mustard5> ivo_, pastebin is here if you need it again  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:22] <Xenguy> southern: ps aux |grep blah
[05:22] <_jason> southern: huh?
[05:22] <Draconicus> X-Chat has been running for a few days, and it's eating about 50MB!
[05:22] <odat> anyone ever configured an onboard NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU]  and get it to work right?
[05:22] <southern> thx
[05:22] <ivo_> ohhh again its normaly when i puting in terminal text when i need put the pasword than again freze
[05:22] <nandemonai> Anyone have a rough idea what time it is pst at the moment?
[05:22] <ivo_> =\\\
[05:22] <crimsun> it's 8:22 PM PST
[05:22] <graft> what really eats memory is fricking kpowersave
[05:22] <nandemonai> ok thanks
[05:22] <mustard5> ivo_, what is freezing?
[05:22] <bluey> Help: ET TC:E and TS2 on Breezy, anyone?
[05:22] <graft> it's a tiny little applet and it uses like 52% of my memory
[05:22] <Xenguy> crimsun: 3 hours diff :-)
[05:22] <ivo_> i cant"write the pasword
[05:22] <mebaran151> anybody here use TwinView
[05:23] <mebaran151> I need some help configuring it
[05:23] <amphi> bluey: wtf?
[05:23] <graft> amphi: yeah, i agree
[05:23] <mustard5> ivo_, you mean you can't see it when you type in?
[05:23] <nm> amphi: i think he means enemy territory, and team speak
[05:23] <brenner> odat: no, but what's the problem?
[05:23] <amphi> nm: oh, games
[05:23] <nm> teamspeak rc2, to be exact
[05:23] <ivo_> Yes
[05:23] <nm> amphi: yeah
[05:23] <southern> ssh server doesn't run
[05:23] <mustard5> ivo_, that is normal isnt it?
[05:23] <bluey> Those who can help would understand the issue ;) But you're right. :)
[05:23] <southern> how to start it?
[05:23] <FlyingSquirrel32> CarlFK, graft: NIS is working nicly, but when I create a user with adduser and update my maps, the user authenticates, but is immediatly logged back out! any ideas?
[05:23] <mustard5> ivo_, you can never see the password being typed when you type it in terminal
[05:23] <odat> brenner, i can't get a resolution higher than 640 x 480
[05:23] <mustard5> ivo_, its doesnt show
[05:24] <nandemonai> ivo_, your not supposed to see a password as it is typed
[05:24] <brenner> ubotu: tell odat about fixres
[05:24] <nm> bluey: i don't game in linux, i have a windows machine for that, but i have set up ts2 and vent servers
[05:24] <amphi> nm: the only games I have here are played via a ncurses interface ;)
[05:24] <Xenguy> southern: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[05:24] <ivo_> when Password: i cant put any text
[05:24] <nm> amphi: hehe
[05:24] <wastrel> nethack
[05:24] <mustard5> ivo_, try just typing it and then hit enter
[05:24] <southern> thx Xenguy
[05:24] <mustard5> ivo_, you won't see anything on the screen when you type it
[05:24] <nandemonai> ivo_, try tyoing it and hit enter.. it wont display ### or ***
[05:24] <ivo_> i trying but its no work
[05:24] <bluey> Ok. Thx anyway! ;-)
[05:24] <FlyingSquirrel32> users that previously existed on the comp before the user was NIS'ed worked fine( and their accounts are no longer in the local passwd file)
[05:24] <Xenguy> southern: yw
[05:24] <amphi> wastrel: z-machine games
[05:24] <nickrud> ah, nethack. days lost to reality
[05:25] <nm> bluey: you may need to download sources and/or generic packages
[05:25] <brenner> wastrel: are the dungeons random?  i kept getting stuck with nowhere to go.
[05:25] <nm> bluey: i'm not sure if there are debian/ubuntu packages for those programs
[05:25] <nm> check synaptic
[05:25] <nm> (sic?)
[05:25] <wastrel> brenner:  random, but there's always a way through
[05:25] <durnkencobra> hey i am new to ubuntu
[05:25] <wastrel> brenner:  search along the walls (s) for secret doors
[05:25] <nm> hmm
[05:25] <mustard5> ivo_, what you are saying does not make sense
[05:25] <nm> he has already left
[05:25] <durnkencobra> can one of you help?
[05:25] <nm> my text is far too small
[05:25] <nm> hehe
[05:25] <wastrel> brenner:  #nethack ;] 
[05:25] <southern> Xenguy
[05:26] <_jason> durnkencobra: just ask :)
[05:26] <Xenguy> durnkencobra: ask
[05:26] <nickrud> durnkencobra, some one will
[05:26] <mustard5> ivo_, what makes you think it is freezing?
[05:26] <durnkencobra> how do I disconnect a usb drive
[05:26] <amphi> durnkencobra: 'durnken'? heh
[05:26] <durnkencobra> to remove it safely
[05:26] <brenner> wastrel: yeah, i remember pressing search at every step though (i just gave up and uninstalled it). :)
[05:26] <Jivers> anybody running ubuntu lite?
[05:26] <durnkencobra> or can I just remove it?
[05:26] <southern> if I type: "ssh southern@localhost" it doesn't answer
[05:26] <nm> durnkencobra, umount it first
[05:26] <ivo_> When i put the comand its ok when i need the write a password than i can"t any text any number put
[05:26] <durnkencobra> how do I do that?
[05:26] <nandemonai> durnkencobra, if it shows on the desktop u can right click and unmount it
[05:26] <dvx> on the desktop there should be an icon for the drive
[05:26] <_jason> durnkencobra: you can probably right click on it and select unmount
[05:26] <dvx> right click
[05:26] <nickrud> durnkencobra, right click, unmount (on the desktop) or umount /dev/<device>
[05:26] <durnkencobra> oh ok let me try
[05:27] <mustard5> ivo_, I understand that..but thats normal
[05:27] <B_166-ER-X> does anyone here uses gtkpod with a ipod shuffle ?
[05:27] <mustard5> ivo_, text never appears when you type in a password in terminal
[05:27] <Xenguy> southern: man ssh (you need syntax like: ssh -l user localhost
[05:27] <durnkencobra> cool..that worked
[05:27] <durnkencobra> thanks guys
[05:27] <ivo_> Numbers too
[05:27] <nandemonai> durnkencobra, in Linux all media is 'mounted' like say a cd, u wont be able to remove it untill it is unmounted even hitting the eject button on the drive wont release it unless it has been unmounted
[05:28] <mshade> B_166-ER-X, i think the shuffle is used just like any other usb drive
[05:28] <mustard5> ivo_, numbers or text...it doesnt matter...they never show..thats normal
[05:28] <mshade> aka, mass storage device.  other ipods not so
[05:28] <nm> southern: the switch is -l <user> <host>
[05:28] <nm> heh
[05:28] <durnkencobra> have you guys figured out a mail program that will pop different account like msn yahoo and gmail?
[05:28] <amphi> nandemonai: eject(1) unmounts for you
[05:28] <B_166-ER-X> mshade,  oh non, not at all, its different from all other mp3 player...in this way
[05:28] <ivo_> :) but i can"t put the password
[05:28] <durnkencobra> it would be enough to just even get an indication whether i have new mail
[05:28] <mshade> durnkencobra, if you have pop3 for all the accounts.. any mail client
[05:29] <wastrel> <3 fetchmai.
[05:29] <wastrel> er. fetchmail
[05:29] <chadwick|359> <3 the mail command
[05:29] <nickrud> mmm, fetchmail
[05:29] <mustard5> ivo_, put in the wrong password and hit enter
[05:29] <mustard5> ivo_, tell me what it says
[05:29] <wastrel> chadwick|359:  mailx
[05:29] <mustard5> ivo_, hit some keys and hit enter
[05:29] <Xylene> does ubuntu automatically add my windows install to grub when installed?
[05:29] <ivo_> i can"t put
[05:29] <nickrud> Xylene, yes
[05:29] <_jason> Xylene: should
[05:29] <durnkencobra> cool I will look into it thanks
[05:29] <chadwick|359> wastrel: ty, forgot what it was
[05:29] <amphi> Xylene: should do
[05:29] <Xylene> thanks, just figured i'd check before i did it
[05:30] <amphi> Xylene: but not as default ;)
[05:30] <nickrud> Xylene, in all my installs, ubuntu's never failed to do that
[05:30] <wastrel> keroppi's birthday is july 10th
[05:30] <southern> Xenguy & nm: i typed:"ssh -l southern localhost" but the same -> doesn't answer
[05:30] <Xylene> it doesn't by default?
[05:30] <wastrel> southern:  did you install ssh server?
[05:30] <_keroppi_> wastrel: Me or the frog?
[05:30] <wastrel> the frog
[05:30] <southern> yes
[05:30] <southern> and started
[05:30] <amphi> Xylene: no, windows will not boot by default, you need to explicitly choose it in grub's menu
[05:30] <biovore> netstat -nal | grep 22
[05:30] <_keroppi_> wastrel: You must have a lot of women who want to make sweet love to you given that you know that
[05:30] <nickrud> Xylene, he means, XP is not the default boot os, ubuntu is. You'll find XP in the boot screen selection, though
[05:30] <biovore> is it running? (sshd)
[05:30] <nm> southern: netstat -an | grep -v STREAM | grep LISTEN
[05:30] <nm> make sure it is there
[05:30] <mustard5> ivo_, ok...I'm going to explain how you can get to another terminal....
[05:31] <Xylene> ah yeah i knew that. i just wanted to know if it would be added
[05:31] <ivo_> ok
[05:31] <mustard5> ivo_, you need to read carefully before doing...
[05:31] <amphi> nickrud: thanks for disambiguating ;)
[05:31] <wastrel> _keroppi_:  it's my girlfriend's birthday too
[05:31] <jjjjjjj> i'd like to test a ftp server... what does ubuntu have?
[05:31] <ivo_> ok
[05:31] <nm> jjjjjjj, vsftpd is great, i'd suggest you try it first
[05:31] <nickrud> amphi, I am at your service ;)
[05:31] <Xenguy> jjjjjjj: vsftpd is light-weight, and recommended
[05:31] <jjjjjjj> i read the wiki on pureftp but the instructions are sketchy
[05:31] <amphi> heh
[05:31] <southern> tcp6    0   0  :::22              :::*              LISTEN
[05:32] <jjjjjjj> thx nm... i'll look
[05:32] <mustard5> ivo_, using ctrl+alt+f1 will take you to a terminal screen   use ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to desktop... do that and then come back to desktop
[05:32] <nandemonai> jjjjjjj, install vsftpd edit the conf and ur done.. easy
[05:32] <nm> southern: place your output from ssh -l southern 127.0.0.1
[05:32] <nm> on the pastebin
[05:32] <nm> and let me have a look
[05:32] <wastrel> flashplayer in mozilla - no sound...  how do i fix this?
[05:33] <mustard5> ivo_, tell me if you are back :)
[05:33] <nickrud> wastrel, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has a section on flashplayer, and sound issues
[05:33] <ivo_> not work
[05:33] <ivo_> :)
[05:33] <jjjjjjj> is that ( vsftpd) a   repository
[05:33] <ivo_> i think is keybord wrong
[05:33] <nm> it isn't a repository itself, no, but it is contained within a repository
[05:33] <nm> ;/
[05:33] <mustard5> ivo_, how are you typing now then?
[05:33] <southern> !tell southern pastebin
[05:33] <jjjjjjj> well.... :)
[05:33] <tuanduc> bonjour
[05:34] <cwillu_> on a completely different subject:  you know what's annoying?  drag-n-drop from the archive manager;  it seems like I have to hold the item over the destination until it's finish unpacking, or it aborts the whole thing
[05:34] <Xenguy> !tell southern about pastebin
[05:34] <ivo_> :) mhhh
[05:34] <nickrud> cwillu_, yeah :)
[05:34] <mustard5> ivo_, I don't understand how this problem is happening
[05:34] <mustard5> ivo_, you need to explain more
[05:34] <wastrel> nickrud:  thx
[05:34] <tuanduc> anyone play Gunbound ?
[05:34] <nickrud> cwillu_, annoying as hell, isn't it
[05:35] <nm> tuanduc: i don't play it on this machine, but have played it in the past
[05:35] <nandemonai> Maybe ivo_ is in irc on another machine?
[05:35] <ivo_> X-chat
[05:35] <cwillu_> nickrud:  very
[05:35] <mustard5> nandemonai, I'm pretty sure he is on the same machine
[05:35] <Xenguy> mmmm, frag and crop
[05:35] <nandemonai> well I find it hard to believe u cant type in a terminal but can in a xchat window
[05:35] <mustard5> ivo_, so keyboard is working with xchat...
[05:35] <nickrud> archive manager maintains my command line tar skills, simply for self preservation
[05:36] <mustard5> ivo_, but not with terminal when typing passwords?
[05:36] <ivo_> yes
[05:37] <mustard5> ivo_, and your ctrl + alt +f1 keys are not working?
[05:37] <ivo_> yes
[05:37] <nandemonai> weird
[05:37] <mustard5> ivo_, very strange
[05:37] <wastrel> nickrud:  fixed :]   <3 u
[05:37] <nandemonai> ivo_, have you got another keyboard lying round u can test with?
[05:37] <ivo_> when i puting in terminal a comand its works but when me promit the password than not work
[05:38] <nickrud> wastrel, good. Glad to hear that part of the page is still useful
[05:38] <mustard5> ivo_, are you pressing ctrl + alt + f1 all at the same time?
[05:38] <ivo_> Nop i dont get any more keybords
[05:38] <ivo_> yes
[05:38] <mustard5> ivo_, k
[05:38] <sinaduel> I need help, I want to put video on my TV with my Geforce FX5200 but I do not know how
[05:38] <nandemonai> ivo_, what kind of keybord is it?
[05:38] <cwillu_> okay, first impression of the mozilla.org build of moz-1.7.12 is that it's snappier, more like I expect it to be
[05:38] <ivo_> whats mean "kind"?
[05:38] <mustard5> ivo_, brand name
[05:38] <nandemonai> ivo_, brand
[05:39] <mustard5> ivo_, what is the name of the keyboard maker
[05:39] <ivo_> Logitech
[05:39] <mustard5> ivo_, set up for Latvian?
[05:39] <Madeye> guys, is there an Opensource alternative to x-lite?
[05:39] <ivo_> yes
[05:39] <nandemonai> ivo_, what type of connection? ps2? usb? wireless?
[05:39] <ivo_> Cable
[05:39] <nickrud> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaTVOut < --- sinaduel maybe this will help
[05:39] <nandemonai> odd indeed.. I'm afraid I can't help you
[05:40] <sinaduel> nickrud: thankyou
[05:40] <mustard5> nandemonai, he just installed nvidia drivers...maybe it changed his xorg.conf
[05:40] <cwillu_> now the real test:  opening up my poker article session
[05:40] <nandemonai> ahh true possible
[05:40] <mustard5> nandemonai, running nvidia-glx-config enable returned an error saying couldnt alter xorg.conf because it wasnt standard
[05:41] <mustard5> nandemonai, which makes me think he had some type of setting in there for his keyboard
[05:41] <nandemonai> ok now where getting somewhere.. sounds quite easonable
[05:41] <mustard5> nandemonai, but strictly speaking the config on nvidia failed and said it couldnt change xorg.conf
[05:41] <nickrud> mustard5, find the line that has "nv" in it, and change to nvidia. that's all that nvidia-glx-config does, really
[05:41] <nandemonai> damn this 80's keyboard
[05:41] <OmegaAlpha> cwillu_, what poker game did you download?
[05:42] <mustard5> nickrud, I'll see how I go, but we can't seem to enter a sudo password
[05:42] <cwillu_> poker articles
[05:42] <cwillu_> although I run pokerstars via wine on ubuntu
[05:42] <nickrud> mustard5, that's another issue. are you sure you don't have sudo working (for example, sudo ls)
[05:42] <OmegaAlpha> cwillu_, oh whoops read it too quick
[05:43] <cwillu_> stars runs out of the box, which is nice
[05:43] <OmegaAlpha> cwillu_, yeah me too.. do you get sound with poker stars though? because i dont
[05:43] <cwillu_> hmm
[05:43] <mustard5> nickrud, ivo_ is saying that when it asks for password he can't enter it...I explained that its not visible, but he is adamant that he has a problem
[05:43] <cwillu_> I don't have speakers hooked up on this machine, so I'm not sure
[05:43] <cwillu_> I'm pretty sure it makes system speaker beeps though
[05:43] <mustard5> nickrud, so I'm in a catch22 situation :)
[05:44] <nickrud> mustard5, ivo_ either /etc/sudoers is wrong, or /etc/hosts is wrong (I've seen both)
[05:44] <benplaut> is there a way to make libfam and gamin coexist? i need libfam for Enlightenment
[05:44] <brian_> !ati
[05:44] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[05:44] <mustard5> nickrud, he is Latvian btw and doesnt speak a lot of English :)
[05:44] <aslkzxmn> hello all, iam aslkzxmn, i want to ask something about ubuntu
[05:44] <cwillu_> okay, all the articles loaded, vm size and working set are about the same as my windows session, rather than 4 times the size
[05:44] <nickrud> benplaut, no there isn't. You can use fam in place of gamin, but that will force you to remove ubuntu-desktop (not a critical thing)
[05:44] <cwillu_> m'thinks this is a good sign
[05:45] <fojackedddolt> noobie questions: I have unbuntu installed, but i cant figure out how to mount my seccond hard drive so i can view the media files in it. It is ntsf, and is the slave of the main ide channel.
[05:45] <ivo_> bash: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[05:45] <benplaut> nickrud: could you manually put everything back again?
[05:45] <mustard5> ivo_, I need you to something and just follow each step for me please
[05:45] <aslkzxmn> ubuntu, what the meaning ?
[05:45] <OmegaAlpha> fojackedddolt, i dont think ntfs is supported by linux
[05:45] <mustard5> ivo_, open up terminal..
[05:45] <ivo_> ok
[05:45] <aslkzxmn> why the name of this ditro ubuntu..
[05:46] <fojackedddolt> it might be fat32. what would i do then?
[05:46] <nm> aslkzxmn, www.ubuntu.org
[05:46] <benplaut> nickrud: it tries to remove ubuntu-desktop, but not just the meta package... every single package depended by ubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <nickrud> benplaut, no, fam conflicts with gamin, so it's either one or both
[05:46] <OmegaAlpha> fojackedddolt, if its fat32 then you should see it
[05:46] <mustard5> ivo_, type sudo whoami     ... and then when it asks for your password....hit some keys then hit enter....tell me what happens
[05:46] <nickrud> *the other, I mean
[05:46] <mustard5> ivo_, don't try to enter your password..just hit some keys and hit enter
[05:46] <benplaut> nickrud: but with fam, gnome wouldn't be installable?
[05:47] <nickrud> benplaut, gnome used fam before gamin, and as far as I remember, it still can
[05:47] <mustard5> ivo_, what do you see on your screen when you do that?
[05:47] <aslkzxmn> thanks ... :)
[05:47] <OmegaAlpha> fojackedddolt, do you have windows also? you can see what type of file system it is on windows... i dont know how you would check with ubuntu if its not recognized
[05:47] <benplaut> nickrud: okey dokey
[05:47] <nm> i'm off
[05:47] <ivo_> i can"t put any i just pres nter and i got this Sorry, try again.
[05:47] <ivo_> Password:
[05:48] <nm> sleep time
[05:48] <nm> later hardcores
[05:48] <nm> ;D
[05:48] <ivo_> enter
[05:48] <mshade> fojackedddolt, you can read ntfs under linux, but not write yet
[05:48] <mustard5> ivo_, its not freezing then...
[05:48] <fojackedddolt> omegaalpha: i just fragged windows because unbuntu has been working, but i forgot about my seccond HDD. is there any way i can format it?
[05:48] <nickrud> benplaut, argh, my info is old: fam wants to uninstall everything, you're right
[05:48] <mustard5> ivo_, I've tried to explain this a few times now....when you type your password in you won't see what you type in
[05:48] <nandemonai> ivo_, when u enter a password you WILL NOT see the output no matter what u type.. this is for security
[05:48] <fojackedddolt> mshade: all i want to do is read for now. i just cant find it anywhere
[05:49] <mshade> fojackedddolt, mkdir /media/drive2
[05:49] <mustard5> ivo_, do you understand what I am saying?
[05:49] <mshade> fojackedddolt, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /media/drive2
[05:49] <ivo_> No i can put the comand but when promit the possword i can't put te any text,numbers
[05:49] <ivo_> its like a freez
[05:49] <flodine> a guys can some help with 64 bit nvidia drivers need apt-get command
[05:49] <mustard5> ivo_, how do you know this?
[05:49] <mshade> ivo_, when you enter characters, you won't see them in the password field
[05:50] <wastrel> ivo_:  just type, it is invisible
[05:50] <mustard5> ivo_, are you saying that when you type..you don't see it on the screen?
[05:50] <benplaut> nickrud: k... seems it will be easier to bug the dev to support gamin :P
[05:50] <mshade> ivo_, just use your user's password
[05:50] <nickrud> benplaut, from your position, for sure
[05:50] <nandemonai> ivo_, what language to you speak natively?
[05:50] <benplaut> heh
[05:50] <mustard5> nandemonai, he's Latvian
[05:50] <gloin> greets, all
[05:51] <nandemonai> If only my uncle was here
[05:51] <mustard5> nandemonai, :)
[05:51] <ivo_> latvian
[05:51] <gloin> I've got an old aic7xxx card that's throwing panics when I try to boot the 5.1 cdrom.  Does anyone know of a param I can throw at the kernel that allows boot?
[05:51] <nickrud> ivo_, try typing it anyway, a password prompt will not repeat your keypresses
[05:51] <mustard5> ivo_, do you understand what I said to you?
[05:51] <gloin> it's apparently an issue that's been seen before
[05:51] <nandemonai> ill try and translate some instructions for you ivo_
[05:52] <mshade> gloin, try nohotplug
[05:52] <ivo_> whats be the comand of the nvida ?
[05:52] <gloin> mshade: thx, will try
[05:52] <mustard5> ivo_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[05:52] <mustard5> ivo_, just type the password...  you can't see it......that is ok
[05:53] <fojackedddolt> mshade: i did what you told me to, but now it says i dont have the permission to view the directory,
[05:53] <sinaduel> can I use bitlord on Linux?
[05:53] <OmegaAlpha> fojackedddolt, use the sudo command
[05:54] <aberrant> anyone know the name of the application that shows wireless signal strength in the taskbar of Ubuntu?
[05:54] <mshade> fojackedddolt, ok that's good, that's the first step. it's mountable.  now do this:
[05:54] <mshade> fojackedddolt, sudo umount /media/drive2
[05:54] <gloin> mshade: no such kernel image
[05:54] <mshade> gloin, it's goign to be ubuntu nohotplug or linux nohotplug
[05:54] <mshade> gloin, append nohotplug to the image to boot
[05:54] <gloin> oh
[05:54] <gloin> right
[05:54] <gloin> heh
[05:55] <nandemonai> meh, no free translators that work properly..
[05:55] <Luke> aberrant: network monitor in the "add to panel" right click menu
[05:55] <nickrud> sinaduel, no. try bittorrent-gui, or bittornado-gui
[05:55] <mshade> fojackedddolt, then.. sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0000 /dev/hdb1 /media/drive2
[05:55] <jjjjjjj> well i read up and d/l the vsftpd tar.gz file.... is the a cli command to extract it and install?
[05:55] <OmegaAlpha> aberrant, i dont know if this is what you are looking for but you can see if you find one with gDesklets apps
[05:55] <ivo_> yeee
[05:55] <gloin> ergh
[05:55] <gloin> still panic
[05:55] <ivo_> its ok now
[05:55] <mshade> fojackedddolt, if that worked, you can add a line to /etc/fstab to have it mount everytime
[05:55] <ivo_> :)
[05:55] <mustard5> nandemonai, hopefully the penny will drop soon
[05:55] <jjjjjjj> like an apt-get command or ?
[05:55] <mustard5> ivo_, ok
[05:55] <aberrant> OmegaAlpha, thanks..I'll try it
[05:55] <nandemonai> jjjjjjj, use sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[05:55] <mustard5> ivo_, well done
[05:55] <wastrel> aberrant:  it's the network monitor applet
[05:55] <ivo_> now i paste show u
[05:55] <nandemonai> jjjjjjj, never install from source unless you have to
[05:55] <mustard5> ivo_, k
[05:56] <mshade> fojackedddolt, that work?
[05:56] <aberrant> OmegaAlpha, that was it, thanks...I was perplexed cuz it was removed in the breezy upgrade
[05:56] <ivo_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9102
[05:57] <aberrant> OmegaAlpha, there is another network monitor there for the ethernet port...but I guess it needed to be added again
[05:57] <OmegaAlpha> aberrant, glad i could help
[05:57] <mark_> I am back
[05:57] <jjjjjjj> when you say never install from source, do you mean like unzippinga tar file and extracting it somewhere?
[05:57] <wastrel> jjjjjjj:  yes
[05:57] <nickrud> jjjjjjj, yes, he does. Get the ubuntu version
[05:58] <mustard5> ivo_, ok ..now something still needs to be changed
[05:58] <OmegaAlpha> aberrant, let me know if you find a good one... the ones i found so far were poor quality and buggy...
[05:58] <mark_> I have tried chown I have edited the fstab file neither worked
[05:58] <jjjjjjj> thanks everyone... time for more reading... if i have q: i'll be back.
[05:58] <wastrel> maybe you broke it when you chowned it
[05:58] <mark_> all I want to do is take off the restrictions on a partition
[05:58] <ivo_> i need logout?
[05:58] <nickrud> god, my hard drive is makeing some strange noises
[05:58] <mustard5> ivo_, do this command again and pastebin...wait
[05:58] <OmegaAlpha> aberrant, right now i just use gkreallm till i find something decent
[05:58] <jjjjjjj> nuckrud... writing on the wall
[05:58] <mark_> no when I did chown it gave me an error and didn't do a thing
[05:59] <mustard5> ivo_, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:59] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha, the netspeed applet works pretty well
[05:59] <wastrel> mark_:  after you updated the fstab entries did you unmount and remount the drives?
[05:59] <jjjjjjj> went to a lunix user group last night.  a google guy was a guest speaker and his first two words were "stuff breaks"
[05:59] <mustard5> ivo_, put the output in pastebin
[05:59] <nickrud> OmegaAlpha, it does take up some space on the task bar though
[05:59] <OmegaAlpha> nickrud, thanks ill look into that
[05:59] <CryoTox> I can't find GIMP's folder wtf? It says it's in my home directory but when I look it isn't
[05:59] <mark_> I restarted my computer ... does that count?
[05:59] <gloin> ergh
[05:59] <gloin> this freaking i2o card
[05:59] <mshade> CryoTox, could it be ~/.gimp
[05:59] <nickrud> CryoTox, it's ~/.gimp
[05:59] <OmegaAlpha> nickrud, its alright i dont really use the task bar at all
[05:59] <mshade> CryoTox, with a . in front
[06:00] <jjjjjjj> meaning software and hardware breaks.
[06:00] <CryoTox> It's not shown
[06:00] <mshade> which means 'hidden directory/file'
[06:00] <CryoTox> ahh
[06:00] <mshade> CryoTox, it won't be, it's hidden
[06:00] <CryoTox> And I veiw these how?
[06:00] <CryoTox> view*
[06:00] <nickrud> CryoTox, in a file manager window, hit ctl-h
[06:00] <OmegaAlpha> CryoTox, or ls -a
[06:00] <ivo_> ok look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9103 :)
[06:00] <mustard5> ivo_, k
[06:01] <mark_> I may not have edited it correctly ... I took out the defualt and added in "rw,exec,auto,user,sync"
[06:01] <CryoTox> thanks
[06:01] <mustard5> ivo_, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:01] <mustard5> ivo_, tell me when you have it open
[06:02] <ivo_> ok im open it
[06:02] <jasz> hello all
[06:02] <mustard5> ivo_, you see a whole lot of text?
[06:02] <ivo_> yes
[06:02] <mustard5> ivo_, go down and find the line that has  'nv' in it
[06:02] <jasz> i just installed ubuntu... and it never asked me to enter a password for root ...  i can't "su" ... is this normal?
[06:02] <Madeye> How can I check which application using port 5060 ?
[06:03] <mshade> jasz, you can use sudo in place of su
[06:03] <jasz> maddler, .. start by telnetting localhost 5060
[06:03] <ivo_> this Driver		"nv" ?
[06:03] <mshade> jasz, if you really need a root shell, you can sudo bash, or sudo passwd and set a rood passwd
[06:03] <mustard5> ivo_, it will say Driver          "nv"
[06:03] <mustard5> ivo_, yes thats it....
[06:03] <ivo_> :)
[06:03] <jasz> mshade, .. hmmmm... interesting...
[06:03] <mustard5> ivo_, change it to    'nvidia'
[06:03] <ivo_> where i chabge?
[06:03] <jasz> so far, i've liked it
[06:03] <ivo_> change
[06:03] <ivo_> "nv"
[06:03] <ivo_> ?
[06:03] <ejofee> so isn't there any video player which lets me decide from which position to which position to automatically play each film on a playlist?
[06:03] <jasz> i was a debian user...
[06:04] <jasz> (talking about the distro)
[06:04] <mustard5> ivo_, yes change the part that says 'nv'    to 'nvidia'
[06:04] <ivo_> "nv"="Nvidia"?
[06:04] <ivo_> ok
[06:04] <ivo_> ok i change
[06:04] <mustard5> ivo_, show me the whole line when you finish
[06:04] <jasz> mshade, .. so if i want to mount my ntfs partition...  should i "su" ? or "sudo" ?
[06:04] <ivo_> Driver		"nvidia"
[06:04] <mustard5> ivo_, don't use "   use  '
[06:04] <mustard5> ivo_, you know what I mean?
[06:05] <ivo_> nop
[06:05] <jasz> grrr
[06:05] <ejofee> ... or plugin?
[06:05] <mshade> jasz, you can sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=0000 /dev/hdXX /mnt/point
[06:05] <jasz> it asks me for a password..
[06:05] <OmegaAlpha> jasz, sudo
[06:05] <mustard5> ivo_, its  'nvidia'   not  "nvidia"
[06:05] <mshade> jasz, your user's password
[06:05] <jasz> ah.. that's true..
[06:05] <jasz> i'm not used to sudoing..
[06:05] <ivo_> Driver		'nvidia'
[06:05] <ivo_> this ?
[06:05] <mustard5> ivo_, yes
[06:05] <ivo_> :)
[06:05] <mustard5> ivo_, now save the file
[06:06] <ivo_> ok i save
[06:06] <aberrant> ejofee, vlc?
[06:06] <mustard5> ivo_, you didnt change anything else?
[06:06] <ivo_> nop
[06:06] <aberrant> ejofee, try vlc -h
[06:06] <jasz> sweet
[06:06] <ejofee> aberrant: really? gonna try it
[06:06] <aberrant> ejofee, or mplayer
[06:06] <mustard5> ivo_, ok.. so it should work then :)
[06:07] <jasz> how do i make my ntfs partitions load @ startup? should i just edit /etc/fstab ?
[06:07] <ivo_> i need type a comand ?
[06:07] <ivo_> :)
[06:07] <mshade> jasz, yep
[06:07] <mustard5> ivo_, write this command down on a peice of paper....
[06:07] <wastrel> trying to run bittorrent behind a NAT router - do i have to forward ports to the btclient host?
[06:07] <gloin> hey
[06:07] <mustard5> ivo_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:07] <ejofee> aberrant: could you tell me which flag(s) of console mplayer you're refering to?
[06:07] <gloin> where can I grab a dapper boot iso?
[06:07] <AMDXP> wastrel: yes
[06:07] <mshade> jasz, /dev/hdXX /mnt/point ntfs umask=0000,user,defaults,ro 0 0
[06:07] <mustard5> ivo_, if you have trouble you will need that command above to fix it
[06:07] <jjjjjjj> i cant' gedit the vsftpd.conf file
[06:07] <ejofee> aberrant: but does vlc also support subtitles?
[06:07] <mustard5> ivo_, don't use it now though
[06:07] <aberrant> ejofee, I dunno, I was just guessing.
[06:07] <wastrel> kk
[06:08] <aberrant> ejofee, yes..vlc duz suport subtitles..it plays everything
[06:08] <ivo_> Yes or no?
[06:08] <jjjjjjj> i right clicked it and said edit with text editor
[06:08] <mustard5> ivo_, no..don't type that command...write it on paper for emergency
[06:08] <gloin> hallo?
[06:08] <paulproteus> Breezy-CA: Eh?
[06:08] <mustard5> ivo_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:09] <ejofee> aberrant: then why isn't it as much talked about as mplayer or kaffeine?!
[06:09] <gloin> what I'm seeing is that my breezy boot cd isn't going to work, but that the problem should be fixed in dapper
[06:09] <gloin> so where's dapper?
[06:09] <mustard5> ivo_, its for fixing a problem if it does not work
[06:09] <aberrant> ejofee, dunno...vlc truly rocks
[06:09] <Breezy-CA> paulproteus - sometime back you walked me through backporting tetex3. (I think it was on Xmas Day.) Was extremely kind of you.
[06:09] <mark_> anyone know how to get it so that I don't have to use root to change stuff on a second partition?
[06:09] <ivo_>  ohh ok
[06:09] <jjjjjjj> well looking at the properties it is a root file... i'll try from cli
[06:09] <ivo_> im now login out and log in
[06:09] <aberrant> ejofee --key-jump+5min <integer>  Jump 5 minutes forward
[06:09] <ivo_> ok?
[06:09] <Breezy-CA> At any rate ... I'm having trouble getting grip to work. It says "No Disc" ... doesn't see the CD-ROM drive. Sound-juicer does, so it's not hardware ... configured grip to look at /dev/hdc but no joy ... anyone seen this before?
[06:09] <mustard5> ivo_, yes
[06:09] <paulproteus> Breezy-CA: Yeah, that's what I thought you might have been referring to. (-:
[06:09] <jjjjjjj> sudo gedit file ?
[06:09] <paulproteus> Breezy-CA: Glad to hear you're still around and caring. (-:
[06:10] <OmegaAlpha> !dapper
[06:10] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[06:10] <Breezy-CA> :)
[06:10] <chadwick|359> ubotu:  You forgot that ir rocks
[06:10] <ejofee> aberrant: this is for mplayer; right?
[06:10] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chadwick|359
[06:10] <jjjjjjj> yup  sudo gedit file
[06:10] <aberrant> ejofee, no..vlc
[06:10] <ejofee> aberrant: thank you
[06:11] <ejofee> aberrant: i was hoping it also had a gui
[06:11] <ejofee> (vlc)
[06:11] <aberrant> ejofee, it does!
[06:11] <aberrant> ejofee, its command line and gui
[06:11] <ejofee> aberrant: cool! thanks a lot for you help.
[06:11] <mark_> anyone know how to change permissions on a partioned hd?
[06:11] <aberrant> ejofee, noprob
[06:11] <jasz> hm
[06:11] <aberrant> mark_, have you mounted the drive?
[06:12] <mark_> yep
[06:12] <jasz> rhythmbox is not allowing me to play mp3's ...
[06:12] <aberrant> mark_, su chmod
[06:12] <jasz> just wav's ...
[06:12] <nandemonai> My prob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=759499#post759499 Any help would be most appreciated ;)
[06:12] <mark_> chmod will not work it says I don't have permissions to do that
[06:12] <OmegaAlpha> aberrant, whats the difference b/t 'su' and 'sudo'?
[06:12] <aberrant> OmegaAlpha, oops..sudo
[06:13] <nandemonai> mark_, dont forget sudo
[06:13] <mark_> I have also tried to edit the fstab but I guess I haven't done it successfuly
[06:13] <jasz> is there any problem i should know about ubuntu & mp3's ?
[06:13] <OmegaAlpha> aberrant, hehe i was like damn i need to read more! ;)
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[06:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:13] <jasz> geez
[06:13] <Breezy-CA> jasz - shouldn't be ...
[06:13] <mark_> yeah I did "sudo chmod upg+rwx /media/sda4/music"
[06:13] <aberrant> mark_, is the drive mounted read only?
[06:13] <RichART1> still going like the energizer bunney in here ey?
[06:13] <RichART1> lol
[06:13] <Breezy-CA> rhythmbox working fine here  ...
[06:13] <nandemonai> jasz, sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins0.8
[06:14] <aberrant> can you "touch /media/sda4/music/a.a"?
[06:14] <mark_> what does touch do?
[06:14] <OmegaAlpha> anyone ever check out the happyhacker.org website?
[06:14] <aberrant> mark_, can you "sudo touch /media/sda4/music/a.a"?
[06:14] <aberrant> mark_, just to see if you can write a file
[06:14] <aberrant> if the filsesystem is read only
[06:14] <aberrant> touch creates an empty file
[06:16] <julian_> hello everyone
[06:16] <OmegaAlpha> aberrant, what is the significanse of creating empty files? i just learned of the touch command last night from happyhacker.org.. ihad no idea what its purpose was
[06:16] <julian_> is there possibly any way to run Ubuntu on an intel mac?
[06:16] <OmegaAlpha> they have a step by step to get faimliar with how linux works.. sadly their step by step didnt work with my shell...
[06:16] <mark_> I can do that but I don't know what it did ...
[06:16] <Dasnipa`> touch updates the timestamp on files without making any changes
[06:16] <aberrant> OmegaAlpha, touch will also update the modfication date of a file...that can be useful
[06:16] <jasz> nandemonai, ... the package is not available but is referred to by another package... bla bla bla..
[06:16] <mark_> now there is a file called a.a in the folder
[06:17] <aberrant> mark_, now "ls /media/sda4/music/a.a"
[06:17] <aberrant> mark_, is it there?
[06:17] <mark_> yeah ...
[06:17] <mark_> but I tried deleting it and it said I don't have permission to do so
[06:17] <julian_> or any variety of linux for that matter
[06:17] <OmegaAlpha> mark sudo
[06:17] <OmegaAlpha> sudo is your new best friend
[06:17] <ELpH95o> hiii
[06:18] <nandemonai> jasz, hmm sudo apt-cache search gstreamer-plugins it should show.. I can't remember the name quite right.. essentially it will install all the gstreamer plugins.. one being mp3... you could hunt down the mp3 one by itself if you just wanted that
[06:18] <aberrant> mark_, are you prefacing the commands with "sudo?
[06:18] <Breezy-CA> OmegaAlpha - the purpose of touch isn't to create an empty file; but in this case that's useful for showing whether drive is mounted r/w or r/o
[06:18] <jacquesmerde> woohoo, i got my usb midi keyboard pumping out music through my onboard wavetable. all on dapper. can anyone recommend some software to fool around with?
[06:18] <waxbolt> yo... i'm running a cd-install on an old gateway solo.  i keep getting a "critical temperature" error... how can i disable the acpi interface?
[06:18] <ELpH95o> jacques:yuou use linux for midi too?
[06:18] <mark_> ok I deleted it
[06:18] <nandemonai> jasz, actually u made need to enable multiverse or universe in sources.lists I cant remember.. I'd check but I have apt probs...
[06:19] <nandemonai> *cough* http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=759499#post759499
[06:19] <ELpH95o> have you tried rosegarden?
[06:19] <aberrant> mark_, if the fielsystem is writeable...."sudo chmod" ota do the trick
[06:19] <Breezy-CA> jasz - I think it's gstreamer0.8-misc
[06:19] <jacquesmerde> ELpH95o: this is the closest ive come to pulling it off. you?
[06:19] <julian_> ok byebye
[06:19] <aberrant> mark_, or sudo chown
[06:19] <Dasnipa`> anyone have an rss agregator suggestion on the repository other than akregator... that uses way too much ram
[06:19] <ELpH95o> i mostlyu se cheesetracker
[06:19] <OmegaAlpha> Breezy-CA, thanks for the info.  is it a frequently use command?
[06:19] <ELpH95o> i've not been able to get rosegarden to properly work yet
[06:19] <waxbolt> i'm running a cd-install on an old gateway solo.  i keep getting a "critical temperature" error... how can i disable the acpi interface?
[06:19] <ELpH95o> i'm trying to compile it from sources now
[06:20] <mark_> so is "sudo chown mark /media/sda4/music" what I type?
[06:20] <jasz> Breezy-CA, .. already installed hmm...
[06:20] <aberrant> mark_, for example..yes...if the user you want to own those files is "mark"
[06:20] <jasz> i guess i need to check a non-free repos perhaps?
[06:20] <aberrant> mark_, type 'whoami'
[06:20] <Breezy-CA> OmegaAlpha - not freq used by me, but I'd defer to anyone ... I remember using it to make sure that all files within a given directory carried same datestamp for some reason ...
[06:20] <jacquesmerde> jacquesmerde: i'm currently using nothing but asfxload and aconnect to make midi sounds. whats cheesetracker?
[06:21] <jacquesmerde> i just want a very basic sequencer
[06:21] <nandemonai> jasz, gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse - All Multiverse GStreamer plugins
[06:21] <Breezy-CA> jasz - I think it's gstreamer0.8-mad - my error earlier "-mad" is the support for mp3
[06:21] <ELpH95o> rosegarden is similar to cubase in a way
[06:21] <OmegaAlpha> Breezy-CA, maybe to make sure that they werent altered by a user or a module?
[06:21] <mark_> chown: changing ownership of `/media/sda4/music': Operation not permitted
[06:21] <ELpH95o> in some ways its not
[06:21] <mark_> thas what I get
[06:21] <aberrant> mark_, you can also change all the files in one command..."sudo find /media/sda4/music -name \*.\* -exec chown mark {} \; "
[06:21] <ELpH95o> jacquesmerde, :have you got jack to work properly?
[06:22] <mebaran151> is eclipse apt-gettable yet?
[06:22] <benplaut> is there a way to fool a program (source) into using gamin instead of fam? some simple symlink that would make my troubles come to an end? =P
[06:22] <jacquesmerde> ELpH95o:  i havent touched jack
[06:22] <aberrant> mark_, wierd...i am perplexed...what filesystem is it ? ext3?
[06:22] <OmegaAlpha> mebaran151, whats eclipse?
[06:22] <ELpH95o> i'd recco9mend trying to get it to work.one of my friends has it working wonderfully in the live cd of ubuntu
[06:22] <ELpH95o> he uses it live too
[06:22] <mebaran151> OmegaAlpha: it's a ide for java
[06:22] <jacquesmerde> what DOES jack actually do?
[06:23] <mebaran151> jacquesmerde: it's like ALSA but with adrenaline and insecurity and incompatibility
[06:23] <mebaran151> I think it also does mixing like dmix, but better
[06:23] <ELpH95o> it does mixing with different programs
[06:23] <mark_> oh I never thought of that its a vfat
[06:23] <ELpH95o> i haven't figured it out maybe because Idon't have enough THC
[06:23] <fojackedddolt> i mounted my seccond hard drive, but now it says "i dont have the proper permissions"
[06:23] <mark_> but should that make a difference?
[06:24] <mark_> because if I log in as root then I can make changes no problem
[06:24] <nandemonai> ahh
[06:24] <aberrant> mark_, possibly..I'm wondering if its a FAT volume...what is the disk? where did it come from?
[06:24] <nandemonai> mark_, when u mount it try -o umask=000
[06:24] <ELpH95o> once there are audio sequencing programs for linux that'smusician friendly microsoft is dead hehe
[06:24] <jasz> hm
[06:25] <jacquesmerde> ELpH95o: do you use soundfonts?
[06:25] <aberrant> mark_, you can chown logged in as root but not with sudo?  that's odd
[06:25] <ELpH95o> not yet jacquesmerde
[06:25] <wastrel> my cat is snoring
[06:25] <jasz> does xmms suck now? .. how come it doesnt come standard in ubuntu? i used it a lot back when i had debian...
[06:25] <zphinx> is there any apt commando to force a remove.. even if it cant find directorys etc?
[06:25] <jacquesmerde> ELpH95o: ah, do you know where i can dload some anyway?
[06:25] <zphinx> having problems with gforge-postgresql
[06:25] <mark_> I have my 1 hard drive partitioned with a swap, linux, windows, and storage
[06:25] <ELpH95o> i wish i knew jacquesmerde ..i used to have alot of soundfonts
[06:25] <aberrant> wastrel, http://english.people.com.cn/200602/17/eng20060217_243641.html
[06:25] <ELpH95o> when i used fruity loops
[06:25] <fojackedddolt> rosegarden?
[06:26] <nandemonai> mark_, mount -t vfat -o umask-000 /dev/foo /mnt/foo
[06:26] <fojackedddolt> isnt that free linux?
[06:26] <zphinx> every time i run apt-get now it tries to configure it and runs into the same problem
[06:26] <aberrant> mark_, is the paritition in question windows?
[06:26] <nemesis_> #gaymonterrey
[06:26] <jacquesmerde> i just want a basic midi sequencer with an intelligent score interface
[06:26] <fojackedddolt> google rose garden, i think its a free sequencer for linux, im pretty sure
[06:26] <nandemonai> mark_, mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/foo /mnt/foo rather
[06:26] <jason_finn> hi
[06:26] <jacquesmerde> rosegarden require.....kde! *shudders snobbishly*
[06:26] <mark_> "only root can do that"
[06:27] <nandemonai> ewww kde
[06:27] <nandemonai> sudo
[06:27] <nandemonai> or as root
[06:27] <aberrant> mark_, prefacing commands with sudo will execute that as the superuser/root
[06:27] <nandemonai> then u should be ok for user access
[06:27] <hatake_kakashi> is there a possibility to see which processes is using alot of mem/swap rather than top?
[06:27] <mark_> "mount: mount point mtn/foo does not exist
[06:27] <mark_> "
[06:27] <zphinx> anyone?
[06:27] <mustard5> :)
[06:28] <Breezy-CA> mark - sudo <command> tells the command <command> -- whatever it is -- to be executed as if you were root
[06:28] <mustard5> mark_, they were examples :)
[06:28] <fojackedddolt> need help: I mounted my seccond hard drive, but when i try and open it, it says "folder contents cannot be displayed" 'you do not have necessary permissions to view "drive2"'
[06:28] <wastrel> poor cat
[06:28] <OmegaAlpha> mark_, try foo man choo hehe just kidding
[06:28] <aberrant> wastrel, doncha think that cat is happy tho?
[06:28] <hatake_kakashi> fojackedddolt: paste your mount onto pastebin website
[06:28] <mark_> ... so put sda4 instead of foo?
[06:28] <aberrant> wastrel, he sure looks cute
[06:29] <waxbolt> cough cough
[06:29] <mustard5> mark_, where is sda4 mounted?  what folder?
[06:29] <hatake_kakashi> mark_: everyone's computer setup is different, so you are to put whatever 'foo' is there supposed for you
[06:29] <nandemonai> yes mark_  whatever you drive and mount point is
[06:29] <wastrel> aberrant:  i wonder if he can walk
[06:29] <aberrant> mark_, sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/sda4 /media/sda4
[06:29] <aberrant> mark_, but unmount it first
[06:29] <waxbolt> how do i disable acpi on a ubuntu install from cd??????
[06:29] <ELpH95o> anyone tried compiling a low latency kernel before?
[06:29] <jasz> ok.. now i can play mp3's.. now lets see how do i play wma and aac and m4p
[06:29] <mark_> sda4 is the partition I want to mount
[06:29] <jasz> :P
[06:29] <nandemonai> ie mine would be sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/hda4 /mnt/winblowz
[06:29] <wastrel> aberrant:  do you read the people's daily often?
[06:30] <aberrant> aberrant, he has trouble...but dont we all after a while
[06:30] <mustard5> waxbolt, I think you start it with apci=no....hit the function keys for the special parameters listing
[06:30] <aberrant> wastrel, no..I just happened to hear about a certain snoring cat..
[06:30] <mark_> fstab list "/dev/sda4  media/sda4  defaults 0   0 "
[06:30] <nandemonai> well theres a problem right there..
[06:30] <mustard5> waxbolt, they are all listed in on the the function keys anyway
[06:30] <nandemonai> should be /media/sda1
[06:30] <jasz> i have some movies in the .ogm format.. but totem cannot play them... why could this be happening? ...
[06:31] <nandemonai> and u want rw in three too for read / write
[06:31] <aberrant> jasz does vlc?
[06:31] <OmegaAlpha> what programming language is ubuntu written in?
[06:31] <aberrant> OmegaAlpha, all of them
[06:31] <wastrel> heh
[06:31] <waxbolt> mustard5, thanks.  maybe we should tell http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75227.html
[06:31] <jasz> aberrant, ... havent tried vlc.. lemme see..
[06:31] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, various
[06:31] <nandemonai> mark_, unmount, mount as I told you.. test.. if works sudo cat /etc/mtab then copy line refering to drive u just mounted into /etc/fstab
[06:31] <OmegaAlpha> aberrant, how universal. seems too good to be true
[06:32] <OmegaAlpha> must be some crazy compiling
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> OmegaAlpha: the kernel for example is composed of C/C++ :P
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> err ASM/C
[06:32] <aberrant> OmegaAlpha, most operating systems are made of bits and pieces coded and compiled from various langs...and perl/python are universal glue
[06:32] <OmegaAlpha> hatake_kakashi, thats my language.. the only one i know.. besides BASIC :(
[06:32] <jasz> i dont want to work tomorrow :(
[06:32] <rewt_> In aMule, what does the sources thing mean? Like whats 18(2) mean?
[06:32] <OmegaAlpha> ahh so thats why python comes default with FLUXBOX...
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> is there a possibility to see which processes is using alot of mem/swap rather than top?
[06:33] <mustard5> waxbolt, I think turning of apci on a laptop is not a good option, as it effects the battery life
[06:33] <mark_> ok I unmounted it now what do you want me to do?
[06:33] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, if you're really big into programming, buy Assembly Language Step by Step Second Edition, it will give you marvolous insight, even if you never plan on programming in Assembly
[06:33] <nandemonai> hatake_kakashi, htop is nice
[06:33] <mustard5> waxbolt, or so I hear :)
[06:33] <hatake_kakashi> nandemonai: thanks, will give that a shot
[06:33] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, personally, it was the best 60 dollars I've ever spent
[06:33] <Discipulus> Well, one of the best 60 dollars I've ever spent :-P
[06:33] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulous... i dont like buying stuff haha
[06:33] <rewt_> Whats 18(2) mean in aMule under sources?
[06:33] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, you spelled my name wrong
[06:34] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, and there's nothing wrong with buying things
[06:34] <waxbolt> mustard5, well, if ubuntu has a buggy acpi interface, then it might be better than those random reboots and hundreds of megs of "critical temperature reached" warnings that syslogng will spit out
[06:34] <jasz> ah.. vlc plays it perfect :)
[06:34] <waxbolt> mustard5, especially if the laptop has no battery to speak of
[06:34] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, of course there isnt.. we wouldnt have an economy if we didnt.. i just like doing with what i have. or what i can get for free... P2P might have it..
[06:34] <aberrant> mark_, sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/sda4 /media/sda4
[06:35] <fojackedddolt> help please: i just installed, and when i try and change permissions it says i am not the owner, and cant change them. but... i am the owner, and there are not other accounts
[06:35] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, im not really into programming.. i was considering getting back into it.. but its been a long time...
[06:35] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, Hmm, I've yet to buy a book I regret buying :-P
[06:35] <aberrant> mark_, assuming the device is /dev/sda4 and the mount point is /media/sda4
[06:35] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, well, I was trying to learn C, but I decided it was too confusing with all the pointers and everything
[06:35] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, after working with assembly for a few months it all clicked though
[06:35] <hatake_kakashi> nandemonai: problem solved :) it was bloody gam_server -_-
[06:35] <GigaClon> fojackedddolt, what are you trying to change/
[06:36] <aberrant> mark_, the -t vfat means "its a windows partition" ...if its not windows...it wont work...
[06:36] <wastrel> Discipulus:  there was a good introductory programming book linked from digg the other day , using python
[06:36] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, is assembly easier than C? i already learned C and C++...
[06:36] <wastrel> lol
[06:36] <mustard5> aberrant, you could also try  -o user,uid=1000,gid=1000
[06:36] <mark_> ok done
[06:36] <hatake_kakashi> fojackedddolt: check whos the owner of that file via ls -al foo
[06:36] <fojackedddolt> gigaclon: read wright permissions on a hard disk
[06:36] <aberrant> mark_, now trying tweeking files
[06:36] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, Assembly is THE programming language
[06:36] <zphinx> So does anyon know how to deinstall a package even tho it cant find conf files?
[06:36] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, C gets compiled into assembly and then assembly gets assembled into an executable
[06:37] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  C was created so people wouldn't have to program in assembly anymore
[06:37] <hatake_kakashi> C is the result of B
[06:37] <aberrant> assembly is a bitch to code and debug tho
[06:37] <hatake_kakashi> and assembly is arch specific
[06:37] <GigaClon> fojackedddolt, well that would be owned by the system
[06:37] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, whats wrong with assembly that ppl didnt want to program in it anymore?
[06:37] <zphinx> dpkg keeps getting stuck at the same point of uninstalling gforge-postgresql
[06:37] <mark_> it is letting me do it now ... so how do I keep it that way?
[06:37] <Discipulus> but if you want to be a better C programmer, it's good to have at least a little bit of assembly knowledge
[06:37] <kurt> hello all.  I'm having some trouble seting a route.  I keep getting an error stating that the "Network is unreachable".  Any takers?
[06:37] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  it's difficult and tedious
[06:37] <jasz> i'm off
[06:37] <nandemonai> I have enough trouble with php O_o
[06:37] <jon__> has anyone here configured dual-head on a laptop w/ubuntu?
[06:37] <aberrant> mark_, put flags in your fstab file
[06:37] <GigaClon> OmegaAlpha, Assembly is one step above coding in binary
[06:37] <wastrel> kurt:  is your network card plugged in?  :] 
[06:38] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, and you have trouble learning C but learn Assembly ??
[06:38] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, it was the book that I selected
[06:38] <mark_> flags?
[06:38] <jasz> thanks to all that helped :)
[06:38] <ELpH95o> linux multimedia studio is a good music app too
[06:38] <aberrant> mark_, I gota go...gudluck...."man mount"
[06:38] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, it was meant for those who have minor programming experience but wishing to learn assembly
[06:38] <OmegaAlpha> see i thought once i made programs into C the compiler turned C into Binary.. i didnt know it turned it into assembly..
[06:38] <jon__> or knows if ubuntu has an app for configuring X
[06:38] <kurt> wastrel: it is.  route is for a network segment that is not on the local network segment.  I'm trying to set the gateway to use.
[06:38] <nandemonai> only html xhtml xml php css and javascript / flash here... guess what I do? ;)
[06:38] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, like I said, it is one of the best 60 dollars I've ever spent
[06:38] <mustard5> mark_, you would need to edit your /etc/fstab entry to mount at startup
[06:38] <wastrel> kurt:  default gw?
[06:39] <GigaClon> fojackedddolt, if you want to make a disk read-only add "ro" to the options in fstab
[06:39] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, do you program for a living or just a hobby?
[06:39] <_RocH> ubuntu is a one huge biatch (in means of OS) :)
[06:39] <Mabus06> My ubuntu installation failed, during the second part, after the computer reboots after ejecting the cd, and starts to install the packages. I don't get to gnome, I just get a teletype to login with. For starters, like maybe to install whatever it is that I'm missing, how do I enable ath0 from terminal/tty?
[06:39] <mark_> ok I can edit the fstab but what do I need to do to it?
[06:39] <ELpH95o> jacquesmerde, :want me to ask my friend what he reccomends?
[06:39] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, neither, just another tool in my belt that I rarely use
[06:39] <mustard5> mark_, one second..
[06:39] <fojackedddolt> its not mounted under f-stab
[06:39] <hatake_kakashi> mark_: make sure it is set somewhat similar to how you have defined the mount
[06:39] <nandemonai> mark_, assuming your mount is now working properly and mounted... sudo cat /etc/mtab
[06:39] <kurt> sys (172.16.100.100) --> default gw (172.16.100.1)  rying to set a route for 10.0.1.0 net to route through 172.16.100.2
[06:40] <nandemonai> mark_, see the line refering to the drive you just mounted? copy it into /etc/fstab
[06:40] <hatake_kakashi> kurt: route add default gw <gw IP address>
[06:40] <wastrel> route add -net 10.0.1.0/24 gw 172.16.100.2  ?
[06:40] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, yeah thats what happened to my programming... got bored and sometimes frustrated with making computer programs.. takes a while just to make simple games like hangman...
[06:40] <mark_> /dev/sda4 /media/sda4 vfat rw,umask=000 0 0
[06:40] <nandemonai> mark_, thats the one
[06:40] <mark_> put that in on that line?
[06:40] <kurt> hatake_kakashi: I already have a default gw
[06:40] <mustard5> mark_,  /dev/sda4    /media/sda4 vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0
[06:40] <mark_> nice ... thanks very much
[06:40] <mustard5>      assuming I have your device and mount point correct
[06:40] <nandemonai> np
[06:40] <zphinx> Anyone? how do i force a deinstall in dpkg?
[06:40] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, for me programming is fun, but it's a lack of ideas or projects that aren't already out there that frustrates me
[06:41] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, if there's an idea, there's already a project for it
[06:41] <mark_> I need the iocharset=utf8?
[06:41] <zphinx> cause --force isnt cutting it
[06:41] <nandemonai> naa should be ok
[06:41] <mustard5> mark_, I believe so
[06:41] <OmegaAlpha> I was hoping getting into linux will open up more doors for me... maybe refresh my programming background or start up a new hobby.. or even help me get a better job
[06:41] <mark_> ok
[06:41] <kurt> wastrel: see my last msg?
[06:41] <Mabus06> My ubuntu installation failed, during the second part, after the computer reboots after ejecting the cd, and starts to install the packages. I don't get to gnome, I just get a teletype to login with. For starters, like maybe to install whatever it is that I'm missing, how do I enable or activate, whatever it is that you have to do in the graphical equivalent of iwconfig in gnome, for ath0 from terminal/tty?
[06:41] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, yeah i would think you summed that up pretty well.
[06:42] <mark_> thanks a lot mustard5
[06:42] <mompirri> hello,  i was trying to fix a problem in my firefox... it had a gray box at the bottom with something that looked like some javascript code (window id=main-window). uninstalling and reiinstalling didn't fix it. so y deleted everything in /usr/lib/mozilla and tried reinstalling it. But this doesn't work either. Any ideas?
[06:42] <wastrel> kurt    route add -net 10.0.1.0/24 gw 172.16.100.2  maybe?
[06:42] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[06:42] <ELpH95o> hello Inf3ctedFx
[06:42] <nandemonai> If anyone can help me with a dpkg / apt problem I would really appreciate it... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134473
[06:42] <mustard5> mark_, tell me if it works :)
[06:42] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone remember the command to run on console to setup the network?
[06:42] <kurt> wastrel: that is the command i used.  generated message that the network is unreachable.
[06:42] <mustard5> mark_, its pretty standard line for a vfat partition..so it should be fine
[06:42] <Mabus06> Inf3ctedFx: network-admin ?
[06:43] <Inf3ctedFx> there was something like netconfig... I dont really remember
[06:43] <wastrel> kurt:  that was the output of the route command?
[06:43] <mustard5> Mabus06, I'm wondering whether you can just continue the install from CD
[06:43] <OmegaAlpha> it would be neat to have a program that would operate everything in a house... of course everything would have to be hooked up to your computer somehow...
[06:43] <kurt> SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[06:43] <mustard5> Mabus06, it didnt drop out with an error at all?
[06:44] <Inf3ctedFx> cus ths is my problem.. mi laptop has built in wireless card and also the eth0   but I want to leave the wireless by default
[06:44] <Mabus06> mustard5: it might have, but I left the installation going by itself during the phase I described.
[06:44] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, they already have that too
[06:44] <Inf3ctedFx> so I want to run the netconfig command again
[06:44] <Mabus06> mustard5: when I came back, it said there was an error installing a certain package. then I ended up in a teletype
[06:44] <OmegaAlpha> instead of a damn crazy alarm going off in your ear from an alarm clock.. your computer turns on the lights. music.. and gets the coffee going
[06:44] <mustard5> Mabus06, k.. you could try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:44] <hpcd> hello
[06:44] <mark_> looks to be working fine
[06:45] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, not where i live they dont maybe in BillGatesLand.
[06:45] <MAB> Back :)
[06:45] <Mabus06> mustard5: but I have to have the internet to do that, don't I?
[06:45] <MAB> where do I enter the command for wine?
[06:45] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, x10.com
[06:45] <mustard5> Mabus06, it should look for the install CD
[06:45] <hpcd> anyone familiar with the command 855resolution
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> wine /path/to/whatver.exe
[06:46] <mustard5> Mabus06, It might have even asked you to do an apt-get -f install
[06:46] <mompirri> hello,  i was trying to fix a problem in my firefox... it had a gray box at the bottom with something that looked like some javascript code (window id=main-window). uninstalling and reiinstalling didn't fix it. so y deleted everything in /usr/lib/mozilla and tried reinstalling it. But this doesn't work either. Any ideas?
[06:46] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, thanks!  looking at the site now
[06:46] <Discipulus> lol
[06:46] <hpcd> where do i stick the line of code..... 855resolution 5a 1280 800 so my computer's screen size will be changed to that every time it starts up
[06:46] <Discipulus> x10 is a really slow protocol though
[06:46] <Discipulus> but it's been around for ages
[06:46] <MAB> Dr. ? I can not figure out where I am to even enter the command winecfg to bring up wine :( Where does that command get typed into? Terminal?
[06:46] <Discipulus> No company can seem to shake x10's grip on the home automation market
[06:46] <whyami> I run an athlon64 and I am wondering if I update the kernel for 64 bit if it will effect any of the libraries or break anything?
[06:47] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, also, comp.home.automation if you subscribe to Usenet groups
[06:47] <OmegaAlpha> hmm sounds like an investment idea...
[06:47] <mustard5> Mabus06, depends what part of the installation it dropped out on I suppose
[06:47] <wastrel> kurt:  of course you can ping 172.16.100.2 ?
[06:47] <Discipulus> lol indeed
[06:47] <thoreauputic> nandemonai: odd errors ... I don't think it has anything to do withthe fonts error you are getting mailed from root though
[06:47] <Discipulus> anyway, I must be off to bed
[06:47] <Discipulus> g'night all
[06:47] <kurt> wastrel: no problems pinging at all
[06:47] <OmegaAlpha> night Discipulus thanks for the info
[06:47] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, any time man
[06:47] <jjjjjjj> how do i renew my ip in linux?  nothing in man ifconfig that i could see
[06:48] <fojackedddolt> help: I can see files of my second hard drive in the terminal, but not under the file browser... sorry, im really new
[06:48] <nandemonai> thoreauputic, Yeah me either... I really dont want to have to reinstall unless I have to
[06:48] <Discipulus> OmegaAlpha, I can be found here 24/7 (although not always active :-P)
[06:48] <Breezy-CA> kurt - you can ping both sides of your def gateway? .1 *and* .2 ?
[06:48] <chadwick|359> jjjjjjj: sudo dhclient eth(whatever)
[06:48] <OmegaAlpha> Discipulus, same here heh.. i jsut sit here and read everything...
[06:48] <jjjjjjj> thanks chad
[06:48] <zphinx> _anyone_?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> nandemonai: have you tried googling the dpkg error? You never know...
[06:48] <whyami> jjjjjjj: I usually just do sudo ifdown eth0 then sudo ifup eth0. That's assuming your network card is eth0
[06:48] <kurt> Breezy-CA: yes.
[06:48] <nandemonai> true true..
[06:48] <aridese> hi guys
[06:48] <zphinx> damn gforge-postgresql  is messing up my dpkg
[06:48] <zphinx> not deinstalling
[06:48] <Breezy-CA> kurt - is .2 connected to the Internet? or to what?
[06:49] <aridese> my ipod isnt detected when it's plugged in...
[06:49] <aridese> even though my firewire port is seen by the device manager
[06:49] <jjjjjjj> router > voipbox > me..... i plugged into the router to test the ftp but could not renew so had to reboot.  ;(
[06:49] <kurt> p2p t1 connection to a remote office
[06:49] <mustard5> Mabus06, do you remember if you told it to look to install stuff from online sources?
[06:49] <kurt> Breezy-CA:  p2p t1 connection to a remote office
[06:49] <thoreauputic> nandemonai: even sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  fails?
[06:49] <nandemonai> thoreauputic, yes it does
[06:49] <nandemonai> oh hang on.. reconf.. hmm I'll try
[06:49] <Breezy-CA> kurt - the remote office's interface is 10.x.y.z?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> nandemonai: have you tried   sudo apt-get -f install ?
[06:50] <kurt> Breezy-CA: close 10.0.1.x
[06:50] <Zoroaster> what is a good site for streaming radio, that Ubuntu will play
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Zoroaster,  shoutcast.com
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> i use xmms and go there a lot.
[06:50] <fojackedddolt> Why can't i see my files when i look in the file browser. i can only see them in the terminal
[06:50] <whyami> Zoroaster: ubuntu will player any streaming radio I can find with xmms
[06:50] <oatis> Hi, during the the process of an 'apt-get install mysql-server' I accidently put a "." at the end of my hostname when the mysql configuration window comes up and now the installation process is crashing, how can I completely removfe that package or re-run the configuration window?
[06:50] <kevo_tool> When I try to add a table with 'mysql-query-browser' I receive ** (mysql-query-browser:11547): WARNING **: requested widget 'charset_combo' with the wrong type
[06:50] <nandemonai> thoreauputic, yes tried apt-get install -f but this reconf seems to be going through, one moment
[06:51] <thoreauputic> Zoroaster: install  " streamtuner" and "streamripper" - that should give you some leads :)
[06:51] <OmegaAlpha> does VOIP allow you to call telephoen numbers or is that just an IP thing?
[06:51] <Breezy-CA> kurt - is the network link between you and the remote office on 176 or on 10 ?
[06:51] <kevo_tool> Does anyone know how to remedy this?
[06:51] <aridese> is there any way to see what raw devices are connected?
[06:51] <aridese> my ipod isnt being detected
[06:51] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: dmesg| tail
[06:51] <thoreauputic> nandemonai: note that sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a will ask you to create a root passwd
[06:51] <Breezy-CA> kurt - sorry on 172 not 176
[06:51] <Zoroaster> thanks for the help
[06:51] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, nothing... nothing changes
[06:51] <dim> hi, can anyone tell me if there is a way to allow vsftpd users to login using the "@"
[06:51] <nandemonai> thoreauputic, okies thats ok
[06:52] <kurt> Breezy-CA: route add -net 10.0.1.0/24 gw 172.16.100.3 dev eth1 is the exact command
[06:52] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:52] <wastrel> kurt:  do you have to go thru the default gw to reach  172.16.100.2 ?
[06:52] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: no, that shows you the kernel message ring buffer, check to see if you can see anything related to ipod being detected
[06:52] <kurt> wastrel: no I don't
[06:52] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Is there a way I can completely move a package and its settings via apt? Something is wrong with my Xfce4, I messed it up some how, I tried removing and re-installing, but it saves my settings. Any help would be appreciated.
[06:52] <Nunquam_Fidelis> move = remove*
[06:52] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, nothing about the ipod
[06:53] <thoreauputic> Nunquam_Fidelis: sudo apt-get remove --purge xfce4
[06:53] <wastrel> so your host is on the 172.16.100/24 net?
[06:53] <Nunquam_Fidelis> thoreauputic: ty, will try that
[06:53] <Breezy-CA> kurt - in other words, it looks like this? 172.16.100.1/24 -- 172.16.100.2/24 <--  T1 -- > 172.16.100.3/24 -- 10.0.1.0/24 ?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> Nunquam_Fidelis: then try a reinstall
[06:53] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: anything different on the iPod's screen?
[06:53] <fangorious> how do I shrink an LVM volume group? I have 10 GB unallocated in one and I want to free it for a regular partition
[06:53] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, no
[06:54] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: try plugging into another port
[06:54] <Breezy-CA> wastrel - don't you leave, now ... i can only think in company :)
[06:54] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, same thing happens
[06:54] <Breezy-CA> just trying to visualize which net each box is on ...
[06:54] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: hmm, something could be wrong with your USB ports, is there anything that has been detected through those?
[06:55] <OmegaAlpha> damn australia just broke a record in the olmypics for that freestyle ski jump event
[06:55] <hatake_kakashi> OmegaAlpha: *yawns* so?
[06:55] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, well, im trying to connect through firewire -- the ipod is detected via USB (but it doesnt charge.. so it dies in 5 minutes)
[06:55] <kurt> Breezy-CA: wastrel: I'll try to describe this a little better.  System in question has two nics, one connected to the private lan on the 172.16.100.0/24 network.  Other nic is on internet with default gw set to internet firewall.  10.0.1.0/24 is at a remote site connected with p2p t1.  local side is set to ip 172.16.100.3 and remote side is 10.0.1.1
[06:55] <OmegaAlpha> hatake_kakashi, breakign records is something that doesnt happen in every olmpics
[06:55] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, nothing happened, really, firewire worked a few weeks ago... stopped orking now
[06:56] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: you may need to check on whats up with the firewire module methinks
[06:56] <hatake_kakashi> OmegaAlpha: heh.. records are meant to be broken :)
[06:56] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, how would i go about doing that?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> heh - Olympics >>> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:57] <OmegaAlpha> hatake_kakashi, yeah but rarely happens.. always one great not two...
[06:57] <Matyas_za> Good morning
[06:57] <jjjjjjj> where is my vsftpd default folder ?  tia
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: I assume lsmod and looking through for firewire module, something like ieee1394 ? or something
[06:57] <mustard5> Matyas_za, greetings :)
[06:57] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, ok, will try -- thanks
[06:57] <jjjjjjj> for uploading downloading
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> OmegaAlpha: then again, its not like as if its ever not going to be broken :)
[06:57] <wastrel> kurt:  so the NIC on your LAN is 172.16.100.2 ?
[06:57] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: np
[06:58] <fangorious> jjjjjjj: run 'dpkg -L vsftpd' to list all the files it installed. you can either guess from the list, or read the conf file
[06:58] <Matyas_za> I wanna throw myself into installing LDAP today Is it even possible to do it on Ubuntu?
[06:58] <kurt> wastrel: yes
[06:58] <Matyas_za> jjjjjjj: try /home/ftp
[06:58] <OmegaAlpha> hatake_kakashi, true.. ive just been watching the olmypics everynight now in almost every event... noone came close tomake a new world record
[06:58] <wastrel> kurt:  so your gateway is 172.16.100.3 isn't it?
[06:58] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, curiously, what does this mean? ieee1394               90936  2 ohci1394,sbp2
[06:59] <Matyas_za> !LDAP
[06:59] <ubotu> Matyas_za: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:59] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: the module 'ieee1394' has got two other modules dependent on it.. ohci1394 and sbp2. ohci1394 is open host controller interface 1394 and sbp2? I'm not sure
[06:59] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, ah, thanks
[07:00] <Nunquam_Fidelis> thoreauputic: didn' t quite work =/
[07:00] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: np, btw, you said it worked before, but during that time of 'worked before' did you restart the computer and that's where it did not work?
[07:00] <mebaran151> anybody here know about radrails
[07:00] <Drac[Server] > What sounds more interesting: A computer inside of the shell of a 1970s space heater, or a computer (the motherboard and such) inside of a W.B. Mason cardboard box?
[07:00] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Drac[Server] : the former.
[07:00] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, yes
[07:00] <wastrel> Drac[Server] :  space heater!
[07:01] <Drac[Server] > Hehehe.
[07:01] <wastrel> Drac[Server] :  i've seen cardboard box cases
[07:01] <brad_teenbot> varsendagger, are you around?
[07:01] <kurt> wastrel: default gateway?  that is set to the internet router.  172.16.100.0/24 has a gateway to the internet via 172.16.100.1.  I am trying to set a route to my remote network of 10.0.1.0/24
[07:01] <Drac[Server] > wastrel, I have, too.
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: something that you had to input in to make it work. I wonder if you need to make a node for it to work..
[07:01] <thoreauputic> Nunquam_Fidelis: 'didn't quite work" is an error message I've never seen ;-)
[07:01] <Drac[Server] > I have an ancient Compaq. Icky. Proprietary. I have no real use for it. I want to put it inside of something unusual. This space heater is the perfect size! :D
[07:01] <Nunquam_Fidelis> thoreauputic: the settings are still being retained.
[07:01] <RemyLaptop> !mp3
[07:01] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:01] <aridese> hatake_kakashi, quite the contrary, i just plugged it in and it worked :-/
[07:01] <hatake_kakashi> aridese: just then? hm
[07:02] <jjjjjjj> thanks fang/matyas
[07:02] <jjjjjjj> i was reading
[07:02] <wastrel> kurt:  no the gateway for the 10.* network.   route add -net 10.foo gw 172.x.y.3   <  .3 not .2  (?)  you said you'd used .2 before
[07:02] <ivo_> hey
[07:02] <thoreauputic> Nunquam_Fidelis: look in your home directory for ~/.config - I think that's where xfce4 puts per-user settings
[07:02] <ivo_> :)
[07:02] <Breezy-CA> kurt - what is the network that connects you and the remote site?
[07:02] <drool> can i get some help installing ubuntu 5.10?
[07:02] <OmegaAlpha> hey anyone familiar with plugging appliances into theircomputers?
[07:02] <Matyas_za> NP
[07:03] <kurt> Breezy-CA: the net between the two serial ports?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> Nunquam_Fidelis: you can probably blow that directory away, or rename it for safety
[07:03] <Matyas_za> OmegaAlpha: I plugged my Braai into it
[07:03] <drool> i am having trouble setting up partitions to install ubuntu
[07:03] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, whats a Braai?
[07:03] <Matyas_za> Im busy thinking of another name HAHA
[07:03] <Nunquam_Fidelis> thoreauputic: thanks again.
[07:03] <ivo_> mustard5
[07:03] <Matyas_za> its where you cook meat on outside in the yard
[07:03] <thoreauputic> Nunquam_Fidelis: no worries :)
[07:03] <ivo_> i got
[07:03] <ivo_> white
[07:04] <mustard5> ivo_, yes?
[07:04] <ivo_> screen
[07:04] <ivo_> :)
[07:04] <Draconicus> wastrel: Hold on. I'm taking a picture of the space heater now.
[07:04] <mustard5> ivo_, cool..I thought you had trouble because you went away for a long time
[07:04] <OmegaAlpha> hehe let me know when you figure it out.. im curious on how to do it..
[07:04] <ivo_> i got
[07:04] <ivo_> trauble
[07:04] <ivo_> i write
[07:04] <ivo_> sudo dpkg.....
[07:04] <thoreauputic> !enter
[07:04] <Matyas_za> OmegaAlpha: I made a step motor for it from a Floppy drive to make it open and close the gas and then I used a gate motor to turn the meat around
[07:04] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:04] <ivo_> to fix
[07:04] <ivo_> than restart
[07:04] <ivo_> and its all work
[07:04] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, for starters i want to try something simple like my home stereo.. or just a light will do
[07:04] <ivo_> Tnxxxx :)
[07:04] <mustard5> ivo_, ah ok..lucky I told you that one before you left :)
[07:04] <thoreauputic> ivo_: stop it with the enter key, please
[07:04] <hpcd> where do i put a debian package so i can install it
[07:05] <ivo_> :)
[07:05] <thoreauputic> hpcd: anywhere you like
[07:05] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, oh you mean a grill?
[07:05] <Matyas_za> OmegaAlpha: Oh yes hAHAH
[07:05] <thoreauputic> hpcd: but if it's some random .deb, don't do it
[07:05] <mustard5> ivo_, the white screen is good :)
[07:05] <mustard5> ivo_, you could try this now.....
[07:05] <mrspeck> hey all! any idea how i change the background color of a window?
[07:05] <mustard5> ivo_, in terminal...  nvidia-settings
[07:05] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, you bar-b-qin in your house ? lol
[07:06] <mustard5> ivo_, that should start the settings thing
[07:06] <RemyLaptop> !multiverse
[07:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:06] <aridese> how do i find out my kernel version?
[07:06] <mustard5> ivo_, and you can change brightness/contrast/gamma
[07:06] <ivo_> yes its works
[07:06] <ivo_> i got a logo
[07:06] <ivo_> of nvidia
[07:06] <ivo_> :)
[07:06] <thoreauputic> aridese:  uname -r
[07:06] <RemyLaptop> !easysource
[07:06] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:06] <crazney> hey, how can i open the gnome configuration editor (not the standard gnome-control-center) to edit more preferences than are exposed by the standard ui?
[07:06] <aridese> thx
[07:06] <Matyas_za> OmegaAlpha: its outside
[07:06] <mustard5> ivo_, well done :)
[07:06] <ivo_> :) tnxxx
[07:06] <thoreauputic> cradek: gconf-editor from memory
[07:06] <aridese> 2.6.12 is the latest breezy version?
[07:06] <Breezy-CA> kurt - yes - if I'm understanding you properly, your LAN is 172.16.100/24 and the remote LAN is 10.0.1/24. What is the network ID of the link between you ?
[07:07] <Matyas_za> Has anyone here installed LDAP on Ubuntu before?
[07:07] <epp> hey what can i do to speed up gnome? i only have 64mb ram...
[07:07] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, what are these step and gate motors usually used for? were they made to be plugged into computers?
[07:07] <ivo_> whrw i can change resolotion?
[07:07] <wastrel> epp:  you just answered your own question
[07:07] <ivo_> where
[07:07] <Matyas_za> Yes into the parallel port
[07:07] <thoreauputic> app: 64MB Ram isn't enough - I would install xubntu-desktop
[07:08] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, im just trying to figure out how to build an adapter that i can plug the lamp into and then into the computer.. and then make/find software to operate it...
[07:08] <thoreauputic> *xubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <Matyas_za> Go into PVT
[07:08] <mustard5> ivo_, System>>Preferences>>Resolution
[07:08] <Draconicus> wastrel: hang on. Camorama is acting up.
[07:08] <mustard5> ivo_, in your menu
[07:08] <mrspeck> bueller?
[07:08] <ivo_> ohhh tnx :)
[07:09] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, PVT?
[07:09] <sinaduel> is the quickcam express the only one that does not work with linux?
[07:09] <kurt> Breezy-CA: 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.2.2.  I can route traffic correctly there.  It just seems to be this one box that has a public and private nic.  If I ping a remote host on the remote lan, traffic is going out the public nic instead of the private.  That is shown in the route cache.  Hence, I'm trying to set a route to the remote network and force traffic destined for a specific network through my internal network and hop across with the ro
[07:09] <kurt> uter doing the p2p
[07:09] <mustard5> ivo_, do your mp3's play in xmms?
[07:09] <aridese> is 2.6.12 the latest linux kernel version?
[07:09] <aridese> for breezy?
[07:10] <Matyas_za> Private Messege me
[07:10] <ivo_> yes
[07:10] <ivo_> : )
[07:10] <thoreauputic> aridese: for breezy, yes
[07:10] <Breezy-CA> kurt - gotcha
[07:10] <mustard5> ivo_, k
[07:10] <Matyas_za> Move the topic into a private conversation
[07:10] <Matyas_za> your problem doesnt really fall under Ubuntu problems
[07:10] <Mordof> question: i had breezy installed, then i made free space on my hd and installed dapper.. now dapper is the one with the grub menu.lst loading at startup, how do i change it back to the one in breezys installation/
[07:10] <ivo_> cool i love linux windows xp sucks :)
[07:11] <jetscreamer> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst in the dapper install
[07:11] <Breezy-CA> kurt - you'll need to route add 192.168.2/24 via whatever interface is on 172.16.100/24
[07:11] <Mordof> jetscreamer, to what
[07:12] <jetscreamer> add the entry that is in the same file in the breezy install
[07:12] <Mordof> jetscreamer, i want it to run off breezys, not dappers
[07:12] <jetscreamer> use a grub floppy then
[07:12] <jetscreamer> or apt-get install grub-doc and info grub
[07:12] <Breezy-CA> kurt - I'm getting too tired to think clearly; I meant you'll need to add 10.0.1/24, not 192.168.2/24
[07:13] <ivo_> mustard5 in unbuntun has got c++ redaktor?
[07:13] <mrspeck> anyone know how to change window background colors in ubuntu/gnome?
[07:13] <mustard5> ivo_, I don't know what that is :)
[07:13] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, need help.
[07:13] <RemyLaptop> how can I play mp3 files on ubuntu ?
[07:13] <Madpilot> !tell RemyLaptop about mp3
[07:13] <mustard5> ivo_, what does a 'redaktor' do?
[07:13] <whyami> !restricted formats
[07:13] <ubotu> [restricted formats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:13] <jetscreamer> then change the breezy one and update-grub
[07:13] <jetscreamer> Mordof: ^^
[07:13] <ivo_> Emm Visual C++ borland
[07:13] <ivo_> :)
[07:14] <ivo_> redaktor is editing program
[07:14] <Mordof> jetscreamer, update-grub is all i hate to do to get it to run off this one?
[07:14] <mustard5> ivo_, ah ok..I don't do programming, so I don't know
[07:14] <RemyLaptop> Madpilot,
[07:14] <wastrel> mrspeck:  system > preferences > theme
[07:14] <RemyLaptop> I allready did that, still no joy
[07:14] <jetscreamer> no, you need to edit the file
[07:14] <ivo_> :) ok
[07:14] <OmegaAlpha> ivo_ you know borland C++? how do you like that language?
[07:14] <thoreauputic> ivo_: I think Visual c++ is a windows thing, is it not?
[07:14] <Breezy-CA> I'm going to have to shut down and get some shuteye; I'm not making sense to myself ...
[07:14] <mustard5> ivo_, you could try searching using synaptic package manager
[07:14] <jetscreamer> info grub on how to tell it to use a different location
[07:15] <mrspeck> wastrel:  that only lets me change the icons or the windows or the themes-- but i'm not seeing where i can change the background color of a window?
[07:15] <Matyas_za> turbo pascal is enought to know OmegaAlpha
[07:15] <mustard5> ivo_, use the search button
[07:15] <whyami> RemyLaptop: you did what it specifies on the Restricted Formats page?
[07:15] <Mordof> jetscreamer, how to set a default boot entry
[07:15] <Mordof> ?
[07:15] <kurt> Breezy-CA: I agree.  route add -net 10.0.1.0/24 gw 172.16.100.3 dev eth0 should be the command, correct?
[07:15] <OmegaAlpha> thoreauputic, i would think its not strictly a windows thing.. jsut a GUI thing
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> Madpilot, I installed gstreamer package, but still no go
[07:15] <ivo_> oke im now teaching C++ :)
[07:15] <jetscreamer> iirc you can specify which menu.lst to use also via the grub command line when you boot
[07:15] <RemyLaptop> totem opens and says it doesn't have the available codec to play it
[07:15] <Draconicus> wastrel: Pardon the horrible delay. Here's the heater: http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/heater.jpeg    I went through hell with preferences in camorama and server problems, but I managed to get the picture up.
[07:15] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, i PM'd you
[07:15] <sambagirl> can somone please tell me the command to mount windows drive again? i lost the command. i am using live cd.
[07:16] <Matyas_za> I didnt get the message
[07:16] <wastrel> Draconicus:  that would definitely make an awesome computer case
[07:16] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: something like  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media
[07:16] <Draconicus> wastrel: Hehe.
[07:16] <jjjjjjj> how do i turn off in irc chat "user leaving... user enters" messsages?
[07:16] <thought> hello
[07:16] <_RocH> RemyLaptop, google for easyubuntu
[07:16] <wastrel> Draconicus:  try to figure out some way to save/use the heating element
[07:16] <mustard5> sambagirl, I'll get it for you..one secon
[07:16] <sambagirl> i had it but i lost it when i shout down to try to boot with xp drive buti it failed again.
[07:17] <RemyLaptop> k
[07:17] <Matyas_za> You use msn Omega?
[07:17] <Draconicus> wastrel: There wouldn't be room, and it'd suck power. This things from the 70s, remember? :P
[07:17] <sambagirl> i just despise windows
[07:17] <wastrel> kurt:  breezy-ca left...  looks ok to me
[07:17] <Draconicus> thing's*
[07:17] <jetscreamer> jjjjjjj: with nice ignore rules
[07:17] <sambagirl> think that worked it was vfat
[07:17] <a2xm> hi all, I've a question: I login from a client to my samba server. How to log out from that client?
[07:17] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, i messaged you again.. yes i do and aim
[07:17] <RemyLaptop> _RocH, may I hump your leg ?
[07:18] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: yes, -t vfat for fat32
[07:18] <ivo_> mustard5 what contry u live?
[07:18] <sambagirl> yes it worked thanks a bunch
[07:18] <mustard5> sambagirl, sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[07:18] <sambagirl> this live cd is fangastic
[07:18] <mustard5> ivo_, Australia
[07:18] <Draconicus> wastrel: Besides, heat+computer=bad. :P
[07:18] <thoreauputic> sambagirl: :)
[07:18] <wastrel> Draconicus:  true enough
[07:18] <sambagirl> why is yours so much bigger than theraputics mustard5?
[07:18] <mustard5> sambagirl, you want that on one line?
[07:18] <Matyas_za> OmegaAlpha: my irc doesnt seem to pick up your msg's, my aol is matyasza
[07:18] <ivo_> ohhh cool
[07:18] <jetscreamer> - t auto is safer
[07:18] <Draconicus> I could really use some metal cutting tools, though...
[07:18] <jetscreamer> if you don't know
[07:18] <sambagirl> oh i am mounted already mustard5 thank you very much
[07:19] <ivo_> There is a canguru? :)
[07:19] <benplaut> my fonts look horrible in openoffice... anti-aliasing makes them all look 'fuzzy'. Any fix? it was doing this in breezy, but i can't remember what i did
[07:19] <mustard5> sambagirl, k
[07:19] <jjjjjjj> i installed snak on the mac and it was nice...
[07:19] <jjjjjjj> for irc
[07:19] <Mordof> jetscreamer, im still not entirely sure as to what i need to do, i mean.. i know i need to update breezys menu.lst.. but then what to change the main boot loader to use breezys
[07:19] <kkathman> evening all :)
[07:20] <jetscreamer> Mordof: why does it matter which. but you need to boot to breezy and grub-install (hd-whatever,whatever)
[07:20] <jetscreamer> if you just have to have that one
[07:20] <kkathman> all day I have been trying to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but it comes back saying nothing...that it doesnt exist.  Ive done an apt-cache search kubuntu-desktop and nothing comes up
[07:20] <Mordof> it matters which cause dapper is a test install, and could need formatting at any point, in which case would render breezy useless
[07:20] <kkathman> my apt-get updates arent "hitting" on all counts
[07:20] <thoreauputic> kkathman: checked your source.list ?
[07:20] <thoreauputic> *sources.list
[07:21] <kkathman> thoreauputic, its the sources from the breezy install disk
[07:21] <kkathman> I had to reinstall
[07:21] <jetscreamer> well ok make a grub floppy and boot to breezy
[07:21] <OmegaAlpha> Matyas_za, ill have to download aim again.. hold on
[07:21] <Mordof> you want me to use a floppy all the time?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> kkathman: hmm - kubuntu-desktop should be in main methinks...
[07:21] <thoreauputic> !info kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[07:21] <kkathman> right Id think so
[07:22] <jjjjjjj> someone gave me an answer long ago and now all these "joe blow has entered/exited" messages filled up the buffer and i can;t see his answer.
[07:22] <jetscreamer> no you need to boot to breezy unless you want to take the time to info grub and learn how to do it from a floppy or an hd or whereever you happen to be
[07:22] <ivo_> mustard5 on unbuntu winamp is working?
[07:22] <jetscreamer> then run grub-install (hdwhatever,whatever)
[07:22] <mustard5> ivo_, xmms is like winamp
[07:22] <jjjjjjj> all i see is an empty page when i ftp to my site.  looking for my default ftp directory using vsftpd
[07:22] <kkathman> thoreauputic, can you check this:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9107
[07:23] <Mordof> jetscreamer, im in breezy currently..
[07:23] <ivo_> oh tnx :)
[07:23] <mustard5> ivo_, windows programs don't work normally in linux
[07:23] <mustard5> ivo_, you can get wine to make some windows programs run
[07:23] <jetscreamer> well ok install grub to mbr then
[07:23] <ivo_> whats is wine? :)
[07:23] <jetscreamer> grub counts from 0
[07:23] <Mordof> jetscreamer, how do i do that? :P
[07:24] <jetscreamer> then run grub-install (hdwhatever,whatever)
[07:24] <jetscreamer> then run grub-install (hdwhatever,whatever)
[07:24] <kkathman> thoreauputic,  and here's my sources.list  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9108
[07:24] <jjjjjjj> wine lets ya run windows under linux i think;'
[07:24] <Mordof> ohh
[07:24] <jetscreamer> hd0,0 or whatever it really is
[07:24] <wastrel> jjjjjjj:  using xchat?
[07:24] <jjjjjjj> yes
[07:24] <jjjjjjj> wastrel
[07:24] <jetscreamer> man grub-install
[07:24] <jetscreamer> info grub
[07:25] <jjjjjjj> i gotta run downstairs... hope the buffer don't fill up befroe i come back <sigh>
[07:25] <eXcessive> how can i set up a hardware-accelerated OpenGL on my Ubuntu? my current ogl doesn't work even in software-mode.
[07:25] <wastrel> jjjjjjj:  right-click on the #ubuntu tab,  select #ubuntu , uncheck the thingy
[07:25] <jjjjjjj> ahhhh thx!!!!
[07:25] <jjjjjjj> now.... wheres the default ftp folder?
[07:26] <wastrel> .xchat2/downloads  ?
[07:26] <kkathman> thoreauputic,  any of that make sense to you?
[07:26] <fojackedddolt> HELP: Ubuntu won't let me delete any file directories under the GUI, because i don't have enough "permissions"
[07:27] <wastrel> fojackedddolt:  what are you trying to delete?
[07:27] <eXcessive> fojackedddolt, "man chmod" and "man chown"
[07:27] <wastrel> ffs don't tell people to go chowning stuff
[07:27] <DevilGuy> could someone help me with an install problem i'm having?
[07:27] <Mordof> jetscreamer, the mbr is on my first hd, this is really risky and its not showing exactly how to use it.. i wish man and info would give examples :S
[07:27] <thought> whats the difference from breezy and horay
[07:28] <wastrel> DevilGuy:  just tell us the problem
[07:28] <wastrel> thought:  breezy is newer
[07:28] <carthik> thought breezy was released 6 months after hoary
[07:28] <ivo_> mustard5 ok big big big tnx for helping me :) i going sleep :) bay bay
[07:28] <thought> cool
[07:28] <OmegaAlpha> any1 watching the olympics?
[07:28] <thought> should i have both in my repository
[07:28] <carthik> thought, no, just the newer one
[07:28] <Mordof> jetscreamer, any chance you could show an example of what i would type?
[07:28] <fojackedddolt> wastrel: a directory i created
[07:29] <fojackedddolt> wastrel: under the media directory
[07:29] <wastrel> fojackedddolt:  ok is the directory empty?  do you have a disk mounted there?
[07:29] <jetscreamer> i did
[07:29] <DevilGuy> i'm trying to install latest stable ubuntu dvd that i got off the website using bittorrent.. i get the following error when i try to but it:  isolinux: disk error 80, AX= ...., drive 9f
[07:29] <jetscreamer> Mordof: examine device.map in the grub dir
[07:29] <Draconicus> wastrel: http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/heater2.jpeg <--- It's pretty nasty in this thing...
[07:29] <Mordof> jetscreamer, k
[07:30] <eXcessive> how can i set up a hardware-accelerated OpenGL on my Ubuntu? my current ogl doesn't work even in software-mode. i have riva tnt2. help someone :|
[07:30] <Mordof> got my 2 hard drives in there
[07:30] <jetscreamer> Mordof: you could 'try' update-grub but i don't know if there is such a thing in ubuntu
[07:30] <thought> cool thanks man
[07:30] <wastrel> Draconicus:  you wouldn't believe the amt of dust & cat hair i pulled out of my computer's air intake the other day :] 
[07:30] <jetscreamer> ok so hd-whatever
[07:30] <fojackedddolt> wastrel: there was a disk mounted there, but after i restarted it isnt there anymore
[07:30] <OmegaAlpha> whats the difference b/t using voip and using a messenger program and doing a mic/video chat?
[07:30] <Draconicus> wastrel: http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/heater3.jpeg <--- I mean.. scary nasty. ._.
[07:30] <fojackedddolt> wastrel:no files in it though
[07:31] <carthik> OmegaAlpha, you dont need a computer for the former
[07:31] <ubuntu_> .org
[07:31] <DevilGuy> 2 days ago i burned a dvd with the lastest knoppix distro as well, and i get the same error on that computer: isolinux: disk error...
[07:31] <Draconicus> The wires are FUZZY! AHHH!
[07:31] <Mordof> jetscreamer, update-grub did something
[07:31] <mrspeck> does anyone know anything about bluefish?
[07:31] <DevilGuy> the wierd thing is that if i put the disc on my laptop, i don't get the error
[07:31] <wastrel> fojackedddolt:  ok, so when you rebooted it unmounted?  if you try to delete the folder while the disk is mounted you could erase files on the disk... (depending on what type of disk it is)
[07:31] <binarydigit> mrspeck: its a web development editor
[07:31] <carthik> mrspeck, what do you want to know about it?
[07:31] <sinaduel> I need help, does quickcam express work on linux, or is it the only one SOL?
[07:31] <OmegaAlpha> carthik, why do they have voip software for linux?
[07:32] <mrspeck> i want to change the background color of the main editor
[07:32] <carthik> OmegaAlpha, what do you mean "why"?
[07:32] <mrspeck> but i'm unable to accomplish this solely through the syntax highlighting controls
[07:32] <jetscreamer> why do they have phones in linux
[07:32] <fojackedddolt> wastrel: nothing is mounted, when i type "mount" in the terminal, it dosnt show it there.
[07:32] <mrspeck> the area to the right of the newlines still shows white
[07:32] <jetscreamer> ok
[07:32] <carthik> OmegaAlpha, voip is as simple as voice->bits->internet->bits->voice
[07:33] <OmegaAlpha> carthik, whats the purpose of having voip on your computer? when you can just use a messenger program? does voip on the computer still allow you to use a phone... and to dial a phone number?
[07:33] <wastrel> fojackedddolt:  ok, so you can remove it with  sudo rmdir /media/name-of-folder
[07:33] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, people can call you on your computer via a phone
[07:33] <Mordof> OmegaAlpha, yeah, thats what its for
[07:33] <carthik> you can use a phone to record the voice (like vonage and other voip phone companies), or use software on a pc, like skype and other software, OmegaAlpha
[07:33] <jetscreamer> yes it d0es
[07:33] <mrspeck> is there a way to change the background on the main editor?
[07:33] <jetscreamer> google h323 or so
[07:33] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, or vice versa
[07:33] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Can I probe a specific port of a specific IP?
[07:33] <OmegaAlpha> carthik, ahh nice... i was wondering because i heard about skype... is it free to use?
[07:34] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: the idea is to use your computer/internet "as a phone", and enjoying the cost savings of not having to use a traditional telephone/network
[07:34] <carthik> OmegaAlpha, with voip software, you can call landline phones, or any phone, for that matter - and the quality is MUCH better than msn/yahoo chat
[07:34] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, computer to computer is free..computer to phone is not
[07:34] <fojackedddolt> wastrel: thanks, I got that. But im not sure why I cant do it under my GUI, because i have other permission problems too
[07:34] <carthik> OmegaAlpha, skype is free for pc to pc calls - for extended service, you need to pay up :)
[07:34] <aridese> how long does a kernel compile take? it's taken about 3 minutes now...
[07:34] <wastrel> Draconicus:  ok yeah eew
[07:34] <wastrel> fojackedddolt:  using nautilus?
[07:34] <sinaduel> I need help, does quickcam express work on linux, or is it the only one SOL?
[07:34] <carthik> aridese, an hour ot two is norml
[07:34] <aridese> carthik, holy shit
[07:34] <fojackedddolt> wastrel: yes.. I belive so, the default ubuntu one
[07:34] <aridese> carthik, i have an 3400+ though
[07:35] <carthik> aridese, depends on your computer, so it might take you just 15 minutes :)
[07:35] <OmegaAlpha> carthik, oh ok.. just curious... so using skype for pc to pc wouldnt be necessary then...
[07:35] <aridese> carthik, oh ok...
[07:35] <sambagirl> here is an interesting question. i was looking at a fourm for setiing up a burner for exterman for backpack for parallel or serial port not sure what that one is but it said to change the bios from this to that like PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP from what mine is PCSPP,TRISTATE,ECP for parallel i think it is.
[07:35] <wastrel> fojackedddolt:  yeah, i don't know how to do that sort of thing with nautilus... cli junky myself...
[07:35] <carthik> OmegaAlpha, well, think of it as msn/yahoo for talking, skype is undeniably better, and since they use their own technology you have to be a skype user to talk to a skype user -- better software in short
[07:35] <carthik> OmegaAlpha, i personally prefer my cellphone :)
[07:35] <sambagirl> i want to do a burn of corporate cd with live cd can i configure for this function?
[07:36] <fojackedddolt> wastrel: ohkay, thank you bunches though, I an tryingn to find somthing
[07:36] <DevilGuy> i have a computer on which i have tried two different linux distros (ubuntu and knoppix) when i try to boot up, after i hit enter at the prompt i get the following error: "isolinux:  Disk Error 80, AX = ....,, drive 9F"...  when i boot up on my laptop i don't get the error
[07:36] <OmegaAlpha> carthik, yeah me too. im just looking for new technologies to have fun with and to incorporate all into my computer.. so that i can just do everythign from my computer
[07:36] <sambagirl> theoreauputic can you give me the mounting command again i will write it down i crashed lsat time and was unable to record the command.
[07:36] <ivo_> mustard5 i just remeber
[07:37] <ivo_> :)
[07:37] <mrspeck> carthik: any ideas?
[07:37] <ivo_> how to
[07:37] <ivo_> i instala new themes
[07:37] <ivo_> ?
[07:37] <ivo_> : )
[07:37] <mustard5> ivo_, try to type it all on one line ;)
[07:37] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: I use skype to keep in contact with friends in the UK, AU and USD
[07:37] <LiteHedded> !samba
[07:37] <ubotu> from memory, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:37] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: top quality audio at no cost
[07:37] <mustard5> ivo_, umm..let me think...
[07:38] <ivo_> How to i install a new themes i download i yhis
[07:38] <ivo_> GTK2-ClearlooksFonky.tar.bz2
[07:38] <ivo_> :)
[07:38] <Madpilot> Breezy & Hoary had an "Ubuntu Hardware Reporter" app - anyone know where it's gone in Dapper?
[07:38] <mustard5> ivo_, open up System>>Preferences>>Themes....
[07:38] <carthik> mrspeck, about what?
[07:38] <carthik> mrspeck, unless you use my nick in the message, i can't see what you type :)
[07:38] <mustard5> ivo_, click on 'Install new theme'
[07:38] <ivo_> ok
[07:38] <mustard5> ivo_, actually no...don't click on that
[07:39] <jacquesmerde> is it possible to set certain commands to be run when a certain piece of your hardware is (dis)connected?
[07:39] <Madpilot> ivo_: after you've installed the new theme, you can delete the .tar.bz2 file...
[07:39] <mustard5> ivo, drag the file into the theme window and drop it
[07:39] <RemyLaptop> anyone here know much about easyubuntu?
[07:39] <Mabus06> I'm getting errors that my hostname is not recognized when I login
[07:39] <ivo_> ohh ok tnx :)
[07:39] <mrspeck> carthik: i'm trying to set the background color in the bluefish main editor window-- but i'm unable-- how do it do it?
[07:39] <ushooz> Madpilot: System/Administration/Device Manager
[07:39] <jjjjjjj> what does /usr represent?  tia
[07:39] <mustard5> ivo_, did that work?
[07:39] <jjjjjjj> never mind... i'll man it
[07:40] <ivo_> works super :)
[07:40] <marc> Help!  Looking for a way to activate voice chat within gaim.   Please!
[07:40] <stoned> i don't know if anyone cares, but i finally configured my multimedia keyboard using 'keytouch', hotkeys, xev, xmodmap etc. are hard to configure, this thing makes it really easy
[07:40] <sinaduel> I need help, does quickcam express work on linux, or is it the only one SOL? please tell me
[07:40] <Mabus06> marc: try gaim2
[07:40] <fojackedddolt> can anyone tell me how to be the "owner" so i can set permissions?
[07:40] <RemyLaptop> trying to run easyubuntu, and I keep getting a message saying: "Could not apply changes, fix broken packages then try again"
[07:40] <p0windah> gaim2 with voice is out ?
[07:40] <Mabus06> fojackedddolt: sudo
[07:40] <wastrel> fojackedddolt:  gksudo nautilus   apparently.  if you're comfortable running nautilus as uid 0
[07:40] <Mabus06> I think there's abeta for it, or something
[07:41] <carthik> mrspeck, background for the webpage? you might want to do it with a css stylesheet
[07:41] <Madpilot> ushooz: not the same thing - I'm talking about the 'report your hardware & what works to the Ubuntu Project" app
[07:41] <ivo_> ok i now going sleep tnx :)
[07:41] <carthik> mrspeck if it is the color of blusefish's edit window, then i don't know
[07:41] <p0windah> gaim2 beta doesnt include voice
[07:41] <Mabus06> Ah.
[07:42] <akant> fojackedddolt, cant you just chown the file?
[07:42] <p0windah> its a priority for them and should be in for gaim2 final
[07:42] <carthik> RemyLaptop, in a terminal, run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade and then if needed apt-get -f install -- follow the messages you get
[07:42] <p0windah> and thats when we all switch from skype to gtalk :)
[07:43] <Mabus06> I'm getting errors that my hostname is not recognized when I login. It causes me to not be able to do ... anything.
[07:44] <Mabus06> t's the hostname I entered when by default it's 'ubuntu' I put 'nicksmachine' and it doesn't work... can somebody please give me some advice so I don't just have to reinstall ubuntu again?
[07:44] <akant> have any of you taken the linux+ test?
[07:44] <wastrel> akant:  you shouldn't go around chowning everything in sight
[07:44] <p0windah> PoLaPaIn: looks tricky
[07:45] <jjjjjjj> i made  a few changes to vsftpd.conf.  do i have to update it somehow or is just saving it enough?
[07:45] <thought> hey
[07:45] <wastrel> Mabus06:  are you on the system currently?
[07:45] <Mordof> jetscreamer, i see now.. see what i thought was happeneing was that if i erased /boot/grub from my dapper install, that i wouldnt be able to choose my menu options.. i wasnt away it wrote it directly to a mbr
[07:45] <thought> has anyone updated their ubuntu with kde ?
[07:45] <RemyLaptop> carthik, something seems to be going differently now! thanks :P
[07:45] <jjjjjjj> trying to upload a file so i can find the ftp folder
[07:45] <Mabus06> wastrel: no, I'm on one beside it
[07:45] <carthik> Mabus06, look at /etc/hostname 's contents
[07:45] <sambagirl> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -o umask=000 what is wrong with this? i should telll it vfat yes?
[07:46] <wastrel> Mabus06:  boot the rescue option and yeah, check /etc/hostname
[07:46] <carthik> RemyLaptop, cool. the apt-get -f install forces installation of things with minor issues and the like :)
[07:46] <jaypee_> how do you remove menu items?
[07:46] <Mordof> jetscreamer, ty very much for the help, i got it configured the way i want it to be now
[07:46] <Mabus06> wastrel: it just says 127.0.0.1 (or whatever that number is) localhost
[07:46] <wastrel> thought apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:46] <RemyLaptop> carthik, ok.  I'm also only installing the bits I really want from easyubuntu rather than the whole lot, which might also be making a difference.
[07:46] <jetscreamer> no you're basically reinstalling it to the mbr and telling it to use that directory on that partition of that hard drive
[07:46] <carthik> jjjjjjj, restart the ftp server, look in /etc/init.d
[07:46] <wastrel> Mabus06:  in /etc/hostname ?
[07:46] <jetscreamer> yay
[07:47] <Mabus06> wastrel: err, that was /etc/hosts/ hold on, I'll switch computers
[07:47] <jetscreamer> even though  it's automatic
[07:47] <carthik> RemyLaptop, it might be interesting to install stuff by selecting stuff and installing from the terminal/synaptic, you know :)
[07:47] <jetscreamer> ah you quit and i types
[07:47] <jetscreamer> :/
[07:47] <jjjjjjj> will do
[07:47] <jjjjjjj> thx car
[07:47] <thought> dam why don't they just put that on the forums =\
[07:48] <thought> i've been reading so meny different ways
[07:48] <carthik> thought, put what?
[07:48] <thought> none have worked
[07:48] <thought> how to update to kde
[07:48] <Mabus06> wastrel: /hostname just says nicksmachine
[07:48] <Mordof> jetscreamer, sorry, i restarted irc to get auto-join on
[07:48] <carthik> thought, how to start using kde instead of gnome?
[07:48] <wastrel> wth???
[07:48] <DevilGuy> i have a computer on which i have tried two different linux distros (ubuntu and knoppix) when i try to boot up from the dvd to install, after i hit enter at the prompt i get the following error: "isolinux:  Disk Error 80, AX = ....,, drive 9F"...  when i boot up on my laptop i don't get the error
[07:48] <Mabus06> ie: root@nicksmachine
[07:48] <thought> yea
[07:48] <jetscreamer> np
[07:48] <wastrel> $ ls -l /etc/monkeys
[07:48] <wastrel> -rw-------  1 root root 0 2005-01-17 01:49 /etc/monkeys
[07:48] <carthik> thought $sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will give you the whole kubuntu experience - the right way to do it, so to speak
[07:49] <wastrel> Mabus06:  that looks ok...
[07:49] <thought> cool well thanks alot ma
[07:49] <carthik> DevilGuy, the cd reader might be bad, then?
[07:49] <thought> n
[07:49] <DevilGuy> other cd/dvds work fine
[07:49] <DevilGuy> it's brand new.. bought it in december
[07:49] <Mabus06> wastrel: when I logged into gnome it said something about it being a valid internet address, or something strange like that
[07:49] <wastrel> Mabus06:  in /etc/hosts on the line with 127.0.0.1   add nicksmachine at the end of the line.
[07:50] <wastrel> Mabus06:  127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain nicksmachine      <- like that
[07:50] <carthik> DevilGuy, if you are talking to aperson, use the nick in the message, so the message is highlighted for that person :)
[07:50] <carthik> DevilGuy, i dont have a clue about your problem, though.
[07:50] <DevilGuy> thanks carthik
[07:50] <Mabus06> wastrel: how come I never had to do this before? (brb)
[07:50] <DevilGuy> i'm not talking to anyone specifically.. just thought someone here might be able to help me
[07:51] <sambagirl> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -o umask=000 is this right for vfat?
[07:51] <jetscreamer> -t auto
[07:51] <jetscreamer> or -t vfat
[07:52] <jetscreamer> man mount, search for fmask & dmask if you wanna get fancy
[07:52] <sambagirl> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t vfat <--- like that?
[07:52] <jetscreamer> you forgot the -o
[07:53] <sambagirl> augh
[07:53] <sambagirl> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -to vfat <--- like that?
[07:53] <jetscreamer> why don't you put it in your fstab
[07:53] <sambagirl> like tthat?
[07:53] <RemyLaptop> carthik, all worked well, thanks !
[07:53] <jetscreamer> no, -t vfat -o umask=
[07:53] <sambagirl> i am duing live cd my xp drive will not boot i have big problem
[07:54] <Butchie> Hi, can someone tell me how i can get ubuntu to install on my hard drive without formatting it?
[07:54] <jetscreamer> you can restore the xp bootloader using a dos boot floppy or a cd
[07:54] <jetscreamer> if you ever wanted to
[07:54] <jetscreamer> or just use a grub-floppy
[07:54] <wastrel> Mabus06:  did that work?
[07:54] <asimismo> Hey folks. Couple partitioning questions. First, can (or should) /boot be put on software RAID1?
[07:54] <carthik> DevilGuy, a google search reveals that it is either a badly written cd, a bad cd drive, or  a bad bios -- try searching on google for ""isolinux:  Disk Error 80"
[07:55] <carthik> Butchie, but you need free space for ubuntu to live in
[07:55] <sambagirl> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t vfat -o umask=OOO
[07:55] <sambagirl> like that?
[07:55] <jetscreamer> should work
[07:55] <sambagirl> doesnt
[07:55] <Butchie> i know this but how can i repartition my drive cuz i do have free space just no free partitions
[07:56] <sambagirl> mount: mount point /media/windows does not exist
[07:56] <jetscreamer> ls /media
[07:56] <Butchie> is ther some sort of guide that i can check out?
[07:56] <carthik> Butchie, okay, during the install, choose "install ubuntu in the free space"
[07:56] <Butchie> oh is it that simple
[07:56] <carthik> Butchie, ubuntu should detect the available free space and offer to use it
[07:56] <jetscreamer> if you have freespace
[07:56] <jetscreamer> there ya go
[07:57] <Butchie> ah ok...  i jsut want to be sure it doesnt kill my xp that i have
[07:57] <Butchie> i can use them both right?
[07:57] <jetscreamer> yep
[07:57] <Butchie> it'l give me a choice on startup which one to boot ?
[07:57] <carthik> Butchie, it wont, for sure: but you can always repair the ntloader if things get screwed up or something -- BACKUP your important data, though!!
[07:57] <jetscreamer> should
[07:57] <Butchie> ugg..
[07:57] <carthik> Butchie, yes, it will install grub and offer you bootup options
[07:57] <Butchie> :S
[07:58] <Butchie> i don;'t liek the sound of that
[07:58] <sambagirl> bah
[07:58] <jetscreamer> humbug
[07:58] <Butchie> so what would cause it to have a problem?
[07:58] <carthik> Butchie, backup is prudence, is all - especially when you are not too sure. Use an external usb drive or something, or email yourself your important stuff or something
[07:58] <benplaut> my fonts look horrible in openoffice... anti-aliasing makes them all look 'fuzzy'. Any fix? it was doing this in breezy, but i can't remember what i did
[07:58] <sambagirl> this so stuipido
[07:58] <sambagirl> STUPID
[07:58] <nuambenzina> http://pastebin.com/566324
[07:58] <carthik> Butchie, user errors? :)
[07:59] <Butchie> haha
[07:59] <Butchie> thats why i'm here talking to you!
[07:59] <Butchie> to eliminate them
[07:59] <asimismo> Anyone have good references on choosing partitioning schemes? Got 80 gigs to work with...
[07:59] <jetscreamer> asimismo: unless you feel godlike, just use one big one
[07:59] <carthik> Butchie, i could do it right, but I can't tell you what all might happen, and what all NOT to do :)
[07:59] <jetscreamer> asimismo: you can change it later
[08:00] <jetscreamer> just don't use up all your free space
[08:00] <wastrel> asimismo:  /boot /  and /home
[08:00] <Butchie> ok i'm not too dumb so i'm pretty sure i can tell what i'm about to click would screw everything up
[08:00] <akant> I always move my /home and other static data stores to seperate partitions
[08:00] <jsestri2> for a hardware diagnosis, what options should i pass to lspci for it to be as helpful as possible?
[08:00] <carthik> asimismo, use 300MB for /boot 7 gigs for /, the rest for /home -- or better still, use lvm, so you can change your mind and resize later
[08:00] <mwql> i'm a newbie who's trying to get dvd playback
[08:00] <jetscreamer> -vv
[08:00] <mwql> on an amd64
[08:00] <Butchie> and another quick thing, does sata change anything ?
[08:00] <mwql> vlc keeps seg faulting
[08:00] <jetscreamer> vlc bites
[08:00] <asimismo> jetscreamer: Was hoping to do LVM on RAID1. Then EVMS for management.
[08:00] <mwql> i've got libdvdcss2 and everything else
[08:01] <RemyLaptop> anyone know a good program to edit audio with ?  (free)
[08:01] <mwql> i tried ogle too, but no success
[08:01] <RemyLaptop> I have two sound clips I want to merge
[08:01] <Madpilot> Butchie: installing on SATA, you mean? No, it shouldn't - my only HD is SATA right now
[08:01] <Butchie> ok good
[08:01] <Butchie> same here
[08:01] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop: Audacity
[08:01] <RemyLaptop> will that work on ubuntu ?
[08:01] <RemyLaptop> sweet!
[08:01] <Butchie> well i'm just gonan give it a shot
[08:01] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop: it's in Ubuntu's repos
[08:01] <jsestri2> !pastebin
[08:01] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:01] <carthik> mwql, starting vlc/ogle from the commandline might give you clues as to what's happening that causes the problems
[08:01] <RemyLaptop> hot diggety dawg!
[08:02] <jjjjjjj> ubotu! vsftpd
[08:02] <jjjjjjj> ubotu: tell jjjjjjj about vsftpd
[08:02] <asimismo> carthik: Yeah, LVM is something I want to do. You ever do LVM over mdadm?
[08:03] <mwql> carthik: i've _just_ got it to work on ogle
[08:03] <mwql> carthik: !
[08:03] <jsestri2> hi, can anyone here help me get my installation of Dapper Flight 4 to recognize my onboard NIC?
[08:03] <mwql> yahoo!
[08:03] <carthik> asimismo, no dude/dudette - i use lvm cause i keep chaning my mind regarding the size of partitions, is all
[08:03] <carthik> mwql, i beleive "woot" is the word you are looking for :)
[08:04] <asimismo> carthik: How about EVMS--you use it to manage your LVM or use LVM directly?
[08:04] <carthik> asimismo, i use lvm directly, which is not so bad
[08:04] <Mabus06> I keep getting GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[08:05] <carthik> Mabus06, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change the urls to archive.ubuntu.....
[08:05] <jsestri2> when i try to fresh install dapper flight 4 to my computer, it won't recognize my onboard NIC, can anyone help me remedy this?
[08:05] <carthik> jsestri2, maybe not
[08:05] <jsestri2> carthik, yeah just hopin
[08:05] <carthik> jsestri2, not many testers here, and we dont even know what nic you have, till now :)
[08:06] <jsestri2> carthik, i have a pastebin of an lspci if you'd like to see
[08:06] <carthik> jsestri2, i wouldn't know jack, anyway :) but you can use the link to the output in your questions here.
[08:06] <jsestri2> carthik, ok
[08:07] <eric_b> hallo
[08:07] <Mabus06> carthik, thanks... ewww.. this is the most problematic ubuntu install I've ever had
[08:07] <jsestri2> can anyone help me get my fresh install to recognize my onboard NIC, lspci -v : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[08:07] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:07] <carthik> Mabus06, chill - think of it as if you were playing a long and interesting strategy/technique game :)
[08:08] <asimismo> Should /boot not be mirrrored? I've been confused on this issue
[08:08] <jjjjjjj> how can i open a port (21) on ubuntu?
[08:08] <Mabus06> carthik : I still get those errors, though
[08:08] <Mabus06> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[08:08] <Mabus06> W
[08:08] <jjjjjjj> wouldn't the vsftpd do this by default tho?
[08:08] <Mabus06> Err, sorry for extra W.
[08:09] <Mabus06> And before anybody "!pastebin"s me, it's a little pointless to pastebin a one line error.
[08:09] <jsestri2> jjjjjjj: wouldn't that be in your router? i wasn't aware ubuntu had its own firewall
[08:09] <jjjjjjj> i have it forwarded but this page i am reading says to open it on ubuntu
[08:09] <jjjjjjj> i have it forwarded on the router
[08:10] <jsestri2> jjjjjjj: odd
[08:10] <carthik> Mabus06, try a $sudo apt-get update ?
[08:10] <Mabus06> carthik, that's what I'm doing when I get the error
[08:10] <andym|sony> apt-get install of a package is trying to remove a package i don't want it to... is there a way around this?
[08:11] <carthik> andym|sony, there must be a conflict between the package you want to install, and the package that is on there already
[08:11] <jjjjjjj> meh... time for bed.  thanks to all who answered my q: tonight.
[08:11] <jsestri2> jjjjjjj: to be honest i've been messing with network stuff and i have yet to see any firewall things...
[08:11] <jetscreamer> don't install the first package
[08:11] <jetscreamer> or put it on hold
[08:11] <andym|sony> carthik: the deb package auther thinks there is, but there isnt :)
[08:11] <carthik> jjjjjjj, install firestarter
[08:11] <odat> anyone help find a lost icon
[08:11] <carthik> then you can see what access requests you are getting, what ports are accepting connections etc
[08:12] <slide> god why does synaptic have to freaking blink throughout the entire installation process
[08:12] <odat> my resolution changed too really big until a reconfigure and now i lost the trash icon i think its way off to the right
[08:12] <jsestri2> odat: what did you lose?
[08:12] <carthik> andym|sony, hmm, well that would take advanced kung-fu but a googl search should get you there, i suppose
[08:12] <epp> sooo... what can i do to speed up gnome... i only have 64mb ram
[08:12] <odat> jsestri2, the trash icon
[08:12] <jsestri2> odat: can you add it to the panel?
[08:12] <carthik> slide put it on a different desktop
[08:12] <odat> jsestri2, i dunno
[08:12] <andym|sony> carthik: i've been searching a bit, found other people with same problem and the --no-remove option which whilst tantalising is the wrong thing
[08:13] <slide> carthik, eh
[08:13] <jsestri2> odat: right click...
[08:13] <carthik> odat, right click on the panel and click add->trash
[08:13] <LiteHedded> !sudo
[08:13] <Sp4rKy> anyone could say me if the www.sos-sts.org website is aviable ?
[08:13] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:13] <odat> carthik, i don't want it on the panel i want it on the desktop
[08:13] <BhAaD> really? so you cant su - to root?
[08:13] <Seveas> BhAaD, just read that page please, it explains all
[08:14] <geneo93> odat:  what wm u using
[08:14] <carthik> odat, in a terminal window, type: $gconftool-2 --type bool   --set /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible true
[08:14] <odat> geneo93, gnome
[08:14] <geneo93> ok do hat he said then
[08:15] <carthik> odat, you can also do that using applications->system tools->configuration editor
[08:15] <odat> carthik, my problem is   it is on the desktop just off the screen somewhere since my resolution changed for a moment
[08:15] <Mabus06> carthik, system time was invalid. :-/
[08:15] <carthik> odat, oh- why not change the res back to normal?
[08:15] <geneo93> odat:  change it back then drag in the middle
[08:15] <wastrel> odat:  right click on desktop > clean up by name
[08:16] <jsestri2> Is there anyone here who can help me get my fresh install to recognize my onboard NIC? lspci -v output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[08:16] <carthik> Mabus06, ah - the "game" threw you a screwball
[08:16] <BhAaD> Seveas: i dont have ubuntu installed, i want to switch from suse
[08:16] <carthik> BhAaD, you can sudo -s -H to root
[08:16] <Seveas> BhAaD, you don't need Ubuntu to read wikipages 
[08:17] <Seveas> carthik, sudo -i is shorter ;)
[08:17] <carthik> Seveas, how dd yo do the smiley?
[08:17] <odat> wastrel, that worked thanx   i had a brain fart
[08:17] <odat> cool
[08:17] <odat> thanx man
[08:17] <Seveas> carthik, like this: 
[08:17] <BhAaD> Seveas: lol i know :)
[08:17] <carthik> oh, come on, Seveas, quit teasing :)
[08:17] <Mabus06> brain fart == neurosypnosis
[08:17] <BhAaD> Seveas: all you need is lynx or better links :)
[08:17] <Seveas> Mabus06, neuroflatulence ;)
[08:17] <carthik> so sypnosis == fart, Mabus06 ?
[08:18] <Mabus06> That's the term for it.
[08:18] <andym|sony> jetscreamer: how do i hold a package then?
[08:18] <Mabus06> For the action that a brainfart crudely describes.
[08:18] <jsestri2> Seveas: can you help with a NIC detection problem in a fresh dapper flight 4 installation?
[08:18] <jetscreamer> andym|sony: i'm not sure how to do it with apt-get, i use a package manager
[08:18] <jetscreamer> you could use synaptic
[08:20] <OmegaAlpha> hey anyone know how to hook up appliances into your computer?
[08:21] <carthik> OmegaAlpha, you have to be more specific than that or i'll cheat and say using a wire
[08:21] <jetscreamer> andym|sony: i don't use synaptic
[08:21] <OmegaAlpha> lol
[08:21] <jetscreamer> andym|sony: aptitude should be installed
[08:21] <jetscreamer> i don't use aptitude either
[08:21] <carthik> later, gators!
[08:21] <OmegaAlpha> carthik, say a lamp.. is there a way if its possible to splice the wire.. since you cant use the default plug and connect a serial plug to it.. then plug it into the computer
[08:22] <jetscreamer> OmegaAlpha: tldp.org coffee how-to
[08:22] <OmegaAlpha> awesome!
[08:23] <jsestri2> blahh, more knowledgeable people about onboard NIC and Dapper flight 4 come online!
[08:23] <jetscreamer> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Coffee/
[08:24] <jetscreamer> jsestri2: do you know the module you need?
[08:24] <jetscreamer> is it loaded?
[08:24] <robinl1> jetscreamer: no
[08:25] <exxpert> anyone can give me a hint on how to make theis channel any type of favorite in chatzilla?
[08:25] <jsestri2> jetscreamer: i've been trying a fresh install, and when i am installing, it just says it cant find a network card
[08:25] <jetscreamer> lspci then go to http://scyld.com/network.html and find out which one
[08:25] <robinl1> jsestri2: try wget http://www.myxxbar.com/linux, modprobe ./linux
[08:25] <jetscreamer> ahh
[08:25] <robinl1> xD
[08:25] <jetscreamer> maybe you cna shell out and modprobe the module, but it might not be in the installer kernel
[08:25] <nbound> !dapper
[08:25] <ubotu> somebody said dapper was the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[08:25] <jsestri2> jetscreamer: can i just install the network after i get the rest of dapper flight 4 installed?
[08:26] <jetscreamer> jsestri2: usually, but i can't say in dapper's particular instance
[08:26] <nbound> !dapper
[08:26] <jsestri2> jetscreamer: actually. how do i get the module if i dont have network access?
[08:26] <stoned> whats a dapper?
[08:26] <nbound> dapper drake is the next version of ubuntu
[08:26] <stoned> is it what baby wrap on thier bottoms
[08:26] <stoned> oh
[08:26] <robinl1> jsestri2: when on windo
[08:27] <robinl1> woopz
[08:27] <jetscreamer> it's in the kernel, so if it isn't in the installer kernel you'd need a .deb for one that has the module
[08:27] <robinl1> when on windows, this will fix it: www.xxxbar.com
[08:27] <jsestri2> robinl1: your link didnt work
[08:27] <stoned> what do they call it after baby wrap
[08:27] <robinl1> yea duh, it was a little joke ;p
[08:27] <nbound> stoned, the current one is breezy badger
[08:27] <jetscreamer> dapper is a fop
[08:27] <stoned> why*
[08:27] <jetscreamer> but not always
[08:27] <jetscreamer> you can be dapper
[08:27] <robinl1> xxxbar is a piece of spyware, i showed you a design of an xxxbar on linux xD
[08:27] <jetscreamer> be the dapper
[08:27] <stoned> hehehe
[08:28] <robinl1> because of modprobe you can exploit Linux
[08:28] <stoned> dapper is the towel of plastic that babies put on thier bottoms
[08:28] <robinl1> modprobe your own module, from throughout a fake program or such
[08:28] <fjd> does anyone know how i can reconfigure my computer for a network after i already missed it in instalation?
[08:28] <stoned> well they don't put it on cuz they is little, but we adult put it on them
[08:28] <robinl1> when you do so, it will install the spyware :P
[08:28] <robinl1> modprobe d
[08:28] <robinl1> woopz
[08:28] <robinl1> modprobe .downloader
[08:28] <robinl1> :P
[08:28] <geneo93> man you are stoned
[08:28] <robinl1> but that's sick so nobody use that idea! XD
[08:29] <stoned> I shall google it
[08:29] <robinl1> no, stoned is stoned, not me.
[08:29] <stoned> The Dapper Diaper "Full Baby Care". 30
[08:29] <stoned> i told you!
[08:29] <sixslap> would someone please tell me how i'm supposed to get pidentd to work
[08:29] <geneo93> dapper is not diaper
[08:29] <stoned> google for 'baby bottom dapper'
[08:29] <liquidindian> Hello!  I'm trying to install scummvm, but apparently it depends on libflac6.  I have libflac7, is that completely different, or a new version?
[08:30] <stoned> i know dapper is linux ubuntu in future
[08:30] <stoned> but is named after baby stuff
[08:30] <stoned> hehe
[08:30] <robinl1> liquidindian: install copmvm, its a better, more legal version.
[08:30] <geneo93> its dapperdrake
[08:30] <jsestri2> jetscreamer: how do i find my NIC on there?
[08:30] <robinl1> anyways, i go gaming
[08:31] <robinl1> Goodbye ;p
[08:31] <liquidindian> robinl1, Is that an alternative to scummvm?
[08:31] <liquidindian> Oh.
[08:31] <sixslap> ok
[08:32] <sixslap> can some one please tell me how to get ident to work? please please please
[08:32] <jetscreamer> jsestri2: this would be after you did the lspci -vv | less and actually found the chipset
[08:32] <geneo93> no seamonkey for dapper yet
[08:32] <jsestri2> i did that
[08:32] <jetscreamer> well it should be listed on the site
[08:32] <jetscreamer> what nic is it
[08:33] <jsestri2> jetscreamer: i did that :Marvell Technology Group Ltd., Asustek Computer, Inc.
[08:33] <jetscreamer> you sure that's the nic?
[08:33] <jetscreamer> never heard of it, but that means nothing
[08:33] <jsestri2> let me double check my mb manual
[08:33] <jetscreamer> i don't get out much
[08:34] <jsestri2> marvell 88e8053 pci express gigabit LAN controller
[08:34] <jetscreamer> yukon gigabit
[08:35] <jetscreamer> sk98lin  <--module
[08:35] <jsestri2> where did you find that?
[08:35] <jetscreamer> google
[08:35] <jetscreamer> go to scyld
[08:35] <jsestri2> oh lol
[08:35] <jsestri2> im there
[08:36] <jetscreamer> should be there somewhere
[08:36] <jsestri2> sysconnect?
[08:36] <jsestri2> syskonnect
[08:36] <jetscreamer> ?
[08:36] <jsestri2> sk98lin---syskonnect is the closest i see under gigabit
[08:36] <ufo> is there an other mirror to download the flight-4, the official is slow
[08:37] <jsestri2> i think im ocnfused on how to search scyld
[08:37] <jetscreamer> well sk98lin should be the module you need
[08:38] <jetscreamer> but i don't have one so i can't swear
[08:38] <sambagirl> jet
[08:38] <sambagirl> it does have nothing in it it is empty
[08:38] <phbc50> hello
[08:38] <sambagirl> what is the commnad that theroputic gave me that time do you know?
[08:38] <jetscreamer> same
[08:38] <sambagirl> no
[08:38] <sambagirl> wll something is very wrong then
[08:39] <sambagirl> oh god
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> does anyone use openbox here ?
[08:39] <phbc50> is it complicated to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper ? Any tips ?
[08:39] <ufo> is the official flight-4 download site only in the net?
[08:39] <AMDXP> brb
[08:40] <Casillas> hello OmniColos
[08:40] <sambagirl> how you do that chkdsk again? or fidisk?
[08:40] <sambagirl> cfdisk?
[08:40] <sambagirl> ok it shows me the drive is there but it is not mounted
[08:40] <geneo93> sambagirl:  what are you trying to do
[08:41] <Sp4rKy> what's the better wm ? (light and fast and a little bit cute :)
[08:41] <sambagirl> trying to mount my xp drive i made a mistake for it now it will not boot. so i am using the live cd with ubuntu
[08:41] <sambagirl> i just want to mount it again i forgot the command
[08:41] <sambagirl> it is vfat
[08:42] <jetscreamer> mount -t auto what where
[08:42] <geneo93> you sure its not ntfs
[08:42] <jetscreamer> mount -t auto whattomount wheretomount
[08:42] <sambagirl> i just do cdfsk
[08:43] <exxpert> anyone have time for me?,,im a n00b.. have installed bittornado in synaptic,, but how do i run the program??
[08:43] <sambagirl> it says w95 w32 like that well i upgraded from ME to xp home see?
[08:43] <geneo93> man i hate wincrap so i'm out of this
[08:43] <jetscreamer> you're putting sudo in front right
[08:44] <sambagirl> in front of what
[08:44] <nandemonai> Greetings again..
[08:44] <jetscreamer> sudo mount -t auto whattomount wheretomount
[08:44] <sambagirl> how can i remove that directory
[08:44] <Bergcube> exxpert~  One easy way is to click on a torrent-file in your web-browser, and when it asks what you want to do with the file you select the option to open it in BitTorrent.
[08:44] <jetscreamer> rmdir, rm -R
[08:44] <exxpert> Bergcube: Thank you!,, you guys (and girls) roX!
[08:44] <sambagirl>  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows -t ntfs -o umask=OOO0
[08:45] <jetscreamer> that doesn't look like what i typed
[08:45] <ufo> any good mirrors to download dapper flight-4 from?
[08:45] <jetscreamer> did it work?
[08:45] <sambagirl> opps not ntfs but vfat
[08:45] <jetscreamer> lose the -o and see
[08:45] <sambagirl> pl
[08:45] <nandemonai> I've just re-instaleld ubuntu64 and this time it appears to be running fine... one problem though.. I have another HD I want to mount that is ext3. I added it to fstab rebooted and the system forced a check.. so it hangs at the fsck so I take it out of fstab reboot try to manually run fsck on the disk and it just sits at pass1: checking inodes etc...
[08:46] <phbc50> sambagirl: mount -t ntfs -o umask=OOO0 /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[08:46] <jetscreamer> auto
[08:46] <jetscreamer> -t auto
[08:47] <exxpert> Bergcube: Hmm.. how do i  set what port the program should use?
[08:47] <nandemonai> ok my bad it's just taking an incredibly long time... odd.. never used to take this long...
[08:48] <Bergcube> exxpert~  I honestly don't know!  I run my own lan with my own firewall-machine so I've simply opened the default ports in the FW.  Lemme ponder a moment. Knowing this could be useful for me as well.
[08:49] <jetscreamer> click the blue word that says preferences exxpert
[08:49] <lota> what is the best settings to help prevent people using these programs that use proxy many proxys that keeps connecting / disconnecting real fast alot of them causeing apache i guess to mess up like when it is over this apache will still be down saying just waiting but my port 80 will be up and networking working but i have to restart apache to get apache back working right again
[08:49] <fangorious> what package has the dapper grub customizations? (colorscheme and splashimage)
[08:49] <sambagirl> ok lets start again
[08:50] <sambagirl> media is empty
[08:50] <sambagirl> sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=OOO0 /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[08:50] <sambagirl> this the command?
[08:50] <sambagirl> lol this is stupid
[08:50] <defrysk> mkdir /media/windows
[08:51] <wastrel> sambagirl:  you need the mount point
[08:51] <nandemonai> -o umask=000
[08:52] <phbc50> sambagirl: ntfs or fat ? try "fdisk /dev/hda1" and then "p" to see the partition type ...
[08:52] <sambagirl> vfat
[08:52] <sambagirl> or fat
[08:52] <defrysk> vfat
[08:52] <exxpert> jetscreamer: i what program are you now?,, i think im using just the basic bittorrentthingy:-S
[08:52] <sambagirl> vfat
[08:53] <exxpert> jetscreamer: Dont see any blue preferences button..:-)
[08:53] <nandemonai> sambagirl, provided you have the mount point made mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/foo /mnt/foo should work fine
[08:53] <jetscreamer> exxpert: top right, it's just a word not a button
[08:53] <fangorious> anyone have dapper with the colorful grub menu?
[08:53] <defrysk> fangorious, its all brown here
[08:53] <nandemonai> provided the partition is vfat and you replace foo with your specific details
[08:53] <sambagirl> mount: mount point /mnt/foo does not exist
[08:54] <nandemonai> I must stop doing that
[08:54] <jetscreamer> -_-
[08:54] <phbc50> mkdir /mnt/windows
[08:54] <fangorious> defrysk: can you look if you have a /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz, or something like that?
[08:54] <defrysk> sambagirl,  mkdir /media/windows
[08:54] <nandemonai> does noone understand foo anymoe? lol
[08:54] <jetscreamer> ah pity da po foo
[08:54] <defrysk> foo? po poo
[08:54] <sambagirl> says file alreayd exists
[08:54] <exxpert> jetscreamer: Dont have it..:-/ maybe i should just try to install bittornado instead?
[08:54] <nandemonai> sambagirl, foo is an example you replace with the details you need
[08:54] <jetscreamer> exxpert: oh i thought this was bittornado
[08:55] <sambagirl> ok
[08:55] <sambagirl> i am abuot to give up on this :D
[08:55] <sambagirl> lol
[08:55] <nandemonai> sambagirl, listen carefully...
[08:55] <exxpert> jetscreamer: nooop,, just the standard bittorrent program..
[08:55] <jetscreamer> ah
[08:55] <nandemonai> sambagirl, what is your /dev/partition
[08:55] <exxpert> but i would like to run bittornado instead..
[08:55] <jetscreamer> yeah bittornado is the same but better than that one imo
[08:55] <jetscreamer> apt-get install bittornado
[08:56] <jetscreamer> apt-get install bittornadogui iirc
[08:56] <sambagirl> bash: /dev/partition: No such file or directo
[08:56] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search
[08:56] <nandemonai> sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[08:56] <defrysk> fangorious, /boot/grub/default-splash.xpm.gz
[08:56] <Bergcube> jetscreamer~  What makes it better?  I as as I've only used the default Bittornado.  What are the differences?
[08:56] <jetscreamer> sambagirl: when you did cfdisk, what did it tell you... hda1 ? what.
[08:56] <fangorious> defrysk: can you run 'dpkg -S /boot/grub/default-splash.xpm.gz'
[08:57] <wastrel> i don't think /media/windows/  exists
[08:57] <jetscreamer> Bergcube: not much, just seems nicer, a couple more config options, but i forget
[08:57] <sambagirl> that did it!
[08:57] <jetscreamer> she made it earlier
[08:57] <nandemonai> so create it
[08:57] <sambagirl> so you have to first make the directory
[08:57] <nandemonai> ;)
[08:57] <nandemonai> yup yup
[08:57] <exxpert> jetscreamer: could not find bittornadogui..:-/
[08:57] <jetscreamer> well i told you to when?
[08:57] <nandemonai> sambagirl, you want it to auto mount at boot?
[08:57] <jetscreamer> !find bittornado
[08:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'bittornado' (2 shown): bittornado ;; bittornado-gui.
[08:57] <sambagirl> thank you so so much
[08:57] <defrysk> fangorious, dpkg: /boot/grub/default-splash.xpm.gz not found.
[08:58] <Bergcube> jetscreamer~  Ok.  I guess I'll grab it and try it out.
[08:58] <sambagirl> i want to get the iso off of it to make a cd to reinstall xp so i can get to all my imporatnat thins on it see?
[08:58] <sambagirl> brb
[08:58] <defrysk> koffee back later
[08:58] <exxpert> jetscreamer: but it could have something to do with that im running dap*er?
[08:58] <jetscreamer> !info grub-splashimages
[08:58] <ubotu> grub-splashimages: (a collection of great GRUB splashimages), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 360 kB
[08:58] <jetscreamer> !info bittornado-gui
[08:58] <ubotu> bittornado-gui: (bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.11-4ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 38 kB, Installed size: 232 kB
[08:59] <jetscreamer> maybe you need universe
[08:59] <jetscreamer> not sure
[08:59] <nandemonai> sambagirl, not really.. why re-install windows just to get stuff off a partition when you can just mount and copy? Also a windows re-install will nuke partitions anyway
[08:59] <jetscreamer> might be the dapper sources
[08:59] <exxpert> jetscreamer: btw where do i find the correct repsotairy (spell)?
[08:59] <jetscreamer> !info bittornado-gui dapper
[08:59] <ubotu> bittornado-gui: (bittorrent client with enhanced GUI interface), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.3.13-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 232 kB
[08:59] <zphinx> i gotto say it
[08:59] <jetscreamer> !universe
[08:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:00] <zphinx> why on earth does ubuntu put in a package of vsftpd without no ssl support
[09:00] <zphinx> sigh
[09:00] <nandemonai> Excuse my ignorance as I havnt been used ubuntu much since breezy came out but dapper is the next release? And if so when is it due out?
[09:00] <wastrel> !dapper
[09:00] <ubotu> I heard dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[09:00] <nandemonai> many thanks
[09:01] <zphinx> and proftpd is randomly freezing my system during upload/download when i have tls enabled.
[09:01] <zphinx> siiiiigh
[09:01] <GURT> huhuh 4/29 dude
[09:01] <GURT> er
[09:01] <GURT> huhuh 4/20 dude
[09:03] <sambagirl> sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[09:03] <sambagirl> so that was the commands first i mkdir /media/windows
[09:03] <nandemonai> sambagirl, looks good to me
[09:03] <sambagirl> then sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[09:03] <sambagirl> thanks to both of you
[09:03] <nandemonai> sambagirl, yes
[09:04] <nandemonai> np
[09:04] <jetscreamer> that command will never work
[09:04] <wastrel> why do you have to mkdir every time?
[09:04] <nandemonai> u dont have to make the dir everytime just once
[09:04] <jetscreamer> she rmdir'd it
[09:04] <sambagirl> i was falling apart but 1 last question is it possible to install a cd external writter using the live cd?
[09:04] <wastrel> ahh livecd
[09:04] <sambagirl> i am using the live cd to try to save the xp drive
[09:04] <sambagirl> it willl not boot it is messed up see?
[09:05] <phbc50> sambagirl: maybe you need to reinstall the boot loader (grub) ?
[09:05] <sambagirl> this live cd is incredible
[09:05] <sambagirl> for windows xp?
[09:05] <phbc50> yes
[09:05] <peej> sambagirl : knoppix is probably a better bet for rescue and autodetection
[09:05] <sambagirl> no see we have a full ubuntu computer on our home network but it is downstaris
[09:05] <sambagirl> umm
[09:05] <phbc50> I mean if you have a linux + xp
[09:05] <sambagirl> you can do that?
[09:06] <sambagirl> no it was just xp
[09:06] <davide> hi all
[09:06] <phbc50> ok ...
[09:06] <davide> how can be updated the locate databases?
[09:06] <sambagirl> i wish now i had made a room for that. but i did not know about ubuntu then.
[09:06] <wastrel> davide:  sudo updatedb
[09:06] <peej> sambagirl : if you have pxe on the box you are trying to rescue, then terminal server (should be in latest ubuntu I think) will do stuff. Else back to knoppix.
[09:07] <peej> !ubotu pxe?
[09:07] <ubotu> methinks pxe is a network boot protocol. http://syslinux.zytor.com/pxe.php
[09:08] <sambagirl> peej you mean on the other ubuntu computer?
[09:08] <davide> wastrel, it automatically parse /etc/updatedb.conf ?
[09:08] <thoreauputic> davide: just run sudo updatedb  - it will do the trick
[09:09] <davide> tnx a lot
[09:09] <peej> sambagirl : yup. The other computer, if it is on the lan, and has terminal server the way knoppix has, you can use it to boot your xp machine, if the xp machine has pxe (netboot) as one of the bios options.
[09:09] <wastrel> davide:  yes
[09:09] <davide> re-tenx
[09:09] <davide> uh, very fast
[09:09] <davide> I thought it would have find-ed all the HD's
[09:10] <dyrne> anyone else having problem with wine repo?
[09:10] <sambagirl> peej can i private message you ?
[09:10] <phbc50> sambagirl: there is pebuilder to make a winXp live cd that will recognise your drives (IDE+USB)
[09:10] <peej> sambagirl : terminal server is the easy peasy, no-need-to-rtfm way of doing netbooting. At least with knoppix. I used it recently for a machine that had no cd, no floppy drive, no usb-boot - but did have pxe boot.
[09:10] <thoreauputic> davide: only if the drives are mounted IIRC
[09:10] <peej> sambagirl : stay public.
[09:11] <sambagirl> ok
[09:11] <thoreauputic> !msg
[09:11] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[09:11] <sambagirl> hold on a second let me first go downstairs and plug that 1 back in.
[09:11] <thoreauputic> hmm - sorry I thought that factoid said something else ... ;-)
[09:12] <sambagirl> ok the only reason iasked was because i thought it might be to much juvenilie this problem.
[09:12] <sambagirl> brb
[09:13] <nemik> hello, how would i get the 'special keys' on a keyboard working?
[09:13] <exxpert> jetscreamer: it woooooorks!!! *salutes you*
[09:14] <phbc50> nemik: what ubuntu version are you using ?
[09:14] <phbc50> kde or gnome ?
[09:14] <exxpert> jetscreamer: now what videoplayer is preffered?:-D
[09:14] <nemik> phbc50: 5.10 breezy, gnome
[09:15] <mesaboogie1> heya whitynz
[09:15] <yonkeltron> is there any reason that typing hebrew text would move the cursor but no show the letters in openoffice.org?
[09:15] <whitynz> hey mesaboogie1?
[09:15] <kasim> hi, i can not use cdrecord with breezy and my external usb drive. Any hints pls?
[09:15] <mesaboogie1> hows ubuntu treating ya?
[09:15] <yonkeltron> kasim: does it work at all? can you do it with sudo
[09:15] <exxpert> !mp3
[09:15] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:16] <whitynz> mesaboogie1: Great
[09:16] <phbc50> nemik: there is khotkeys (see http://www.tucows.com/preview/31826) but for kde...it might work under gnome but I've never tried.
[09:16] <kasim> yonkeltron: no work at all. with sudo ,  -scanbus is working
[09:16] <yonkeltron> nemik: which special keys exactly?
[09:16] <peej> sambagirl: uh...hang on. terminal server client in ubuntu doesn't seem to do what terminal server does in knoppix.
[09:17] <yonkeltron> kasim: hmmmm so you have tried it with sudo or you havent tried it?
[09:17] <nemik> yonkeltron: internet and email keys on the top of a sony laptop, xev doesn't recognize them; does nothing when they are pushed
[09:17] <kasim> yonkeltron: i always tried with sudo
[09:18] <peej> sambagirl: I think it'll be a toughie in ubuntu. Ubuntu's really for newbies. Knoppix is more for rescue. Though if you know what you are doing you can do both with either.
[09:18] <mesaboogie1> unregistered obiously
[09:18] <mesaboogie1> crap
[09:21] <yonkeltron> kasim: does it work without sudo?
[09:21] <hsm> why i can not access /mnt/winc while i can access /mnt/wind after i mount them? is that because /mnt/winc's file system is ntfs?
[09:22] <hsm> can anyone help me with that?
[09:22] <yonkeltron> peej: i don't think ubuntu is just for newbies. i think it's a solid distro for everyone.
[09:22] <kasim> yonkeltron: really i never tried without sudo. Do you think it could work as a normal user when sudo -s does not work?
[09:22] <nandemonai> dang.. anyone know if rtorrent works on ubuntu breezy? Doesnt seem to be in the repos
[09:23] <Bergcube> peej~  I think you're partly right.  Ubuntu is for newbies TOO.  I can see no reason for experts to dislike Ubuntu at all.  Even if I'm in the process of learning Linux I've been working with computers since 1985, and I think it's the best desktop Linux currently available.  I've got a friend who runs an ISP and really can be called a Linux expert.  Recently he told me that after I'd introduced him to Ubuntu he preffered it too.  Just
[09:23] <Bergcube> my micro-euro of course...  But I don't think it's right to paint it black and white...  Ubuntu can very well be for experts.
[09:23] <sito> hola a todos
[09:25] <yonkeltron> kasim: did you try it with just sudo? without the -s toggle?
[09:26] <kasim> yonkeltron: nor sure most likly with "sudo -s". will try again
[09:26] <yonkeltron> Bergcube: hear hear!
[09:26] <kasim> yonkeltron: btw k3b fails too
[09:27] <nandemonai> What do I need to install to get gcc and make?
[09:27] <kasim> yonkeltron: k3b started with kdesu k3b
[09:27] <yonkeltron> kasim: try running sudo k3b
[09:27] <yonkeltron> kasim: ok good
[09:27] <yonkeltron> nandemonai: install a package called build-essential
[09:27] <eli> anyone here using dapper?
[09:28] <nandemonai> ahh thats the one ta
[09:28] <kasim> yonkeltron: would like to stick to cdrecord only. if thats working i am VERY happy, then k3b, ok?
[09:28] <nandemonai> seems rtorrent is in dapper but not breezy.. looks like im trying a source install
[09:28] <eli> has anyone done the upgrades for dapper today and get some errors?
[09:29] <yonkeltron> kasim: why not just use k3b?
[09:29] <yonkeltron> eli: what kind of errors?
[09:29] <stiletto> ok i am back
[09:29] <stiletto> samba it's me
[09:29] <stiletto> on the ubuntu computer
[09:29] <kasim> yonkeltron: k3b uses cdrecord, so i rather use the cli approach
[09:30] <eli> yonkeltron : the panel in gnome is freezing up. when i log out and sign back in i have an error stating that a panel is already active
[09:30] <stiletto> peej? phbc50?
[09:30] <yonkeltron> kasim: i understand, but if you can get k3b to work, maybe you can get cdrecord to work directly once you figure out the problem
[09:30] <yonkeltron> eli: hmmmm
[09:31] <eli> yonkeltron : in addition when i try to change the background it does not update, until i hit cancel on the background options page
[09:31] <eli> this all just started in the last hour when i upgraded the files for dapper today
[09:32] <eli> been using dapper for two days now
[09:32] <peej> Bergcube : the autodetects on ubuntu seem not as good yet as knoppix. The x.org config problems on ubuntu are developing fast, but still have some surprises. And you need a lot of time to figure out pxe boot service from ubuntu. With knoppix it is point-and-drool - ever tried the terminal server there for pxe boot? It doesn't seem to be available yet for ubuntu. Precisely because of the different focus.
[09:32] <kasim> yonkeltron: i am VERY sceptic about that, its abaout half a year that fails, i have produce some 20 CDs with nothing on it alreay.
[09:32] <peej> stiletto: ah, ok.
[09:32] <acasues> hello all
[09:32] <yonkeltron> eli: ok this sounds like some buggage. ask in #gnome and if they have nothing, then you might have found a bug
[09:32] <peej> stiletto: sambagirl: uh...hang on. terminal server client in ubuntu doesn't seem to do what terminal server does in knoppix.
[09:32] <stiletto> ok no problem
[09:33] <eli> ok, yonkeltron thanks for advice. will do
[09:33] <kasim> yonkeltron: are YOU (successfully) using cdrecord 2.01.01a01 to burn CDs?
[09:33] <stiletto> oh my god look at the time
[09:33] <acasues> 333...
[09:33] <yonkeltron> kasim: let me check
[09:33] <acasues> its like half of satan
[09:33] <defrysk> k3b uses cdrdao I believe
[09:33] <Luke> hey all
[09:33] <peej> stiletto: if you can get a knoppix (v 3.9 is what I used) you'll find the server you want if you click on the cute penguin on the toolbar.
[09:33] <acasues> yo
[09:34] <kasim> my k3b uses cdrecord
[09:34] <acasues> any one running 32 bit breezy on 64bit AMD?
[09:34] <Protocol1> yey ...i got clearwire service today
[09:34] <stiletto> where can i get knoppix/
[09:34] <stiletto> ?
[09:34] <acasues> google
[09:34] <peej> stiletto: and then,  it is as I say, point and drool.
[09:34] <stiletto> apt-get?
[09:34] <acasues> haha
[09:35] <acasues> apt-get knoppix?
[09:35] <acasues> haha
[09:35] <Luke> I compiled a custom kernel and when I boot it, I get this: "Bug: scheduling while atomic: IRQ 21/0xsomehex/245" anyone know what this is or how to fix it?
[09:35] <acasues> apt-get install windows
[09:36] <defrysk> eject
[09:36] <stiletto> umm from all the sarcasm i think i will not have any luck tonite
[09:36] <peej> stiletto: in ubuntu, if it is like in debian, you need to use tftpd-hpa and fix up config files and get dhcpd going and other painful stuff.
[09:36] <joe234> Clone Detected Nicks ( thoreauputic thoreauputic_ ) Hostmask (*!*@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic)  )= | 24 / 48
[09:36] <stiletto> ahh
[09:36] <Bergcube> peej~  I haven't tinkered with that, no.  Even so I consider it daring to discard Ubuntu as something for newbies. We have a very powerful packet management system, good docs, and exceptional support. This means that any expert will get Ubuntu to go whereever he wants it to go.  And comparing with knoppix is hardly relevant.  As Knoppix is a static solution made to run on ANY computer.  Not only does it cater to the lowest common denom
[09:36] <Bergcube> inator, it also has to have a huge kernel prepared for literally anything.  But the main thing has to be that we all get our work done. Just as Knoppix is a tool that make SOME experts happy, I bet Ubuntu is such a tool for OTHER experts.  Don't you agree?
[09:36] <stiletto> well let me ask you this
[09:36] <ompaul> stiletto, what kind networking are you trying to enable?
[09:37] <thoreauputic_> joe234: and?
[09:37] <ompaul> joe234, often happens if someone looses their internet connection and comes back before timeout occurs
[09:37] <peej> Bergcube : I am NOT discarding it at all. I inflict it on most people. But I am aware of what is the right tool for the job.
[09:38] <ompaul> joe234, happens to me once a day
[09:38] <stiletto> all i am trying to do is make a cd image of xp corporate so that i can hopefully repair the xp drive becuase the xp computer is now using live cd to run and i am able to mount the xp drive but it will not boot due to some silly things i did i think. right now i am on a ubuntu ocmputer downstiars.
[09:38] <joe234> sry its a script
[09:38] <joe234> clone detector
[09:38] <ompaul> morning thoreauputic_
[09:38] <thoreauputic_> joe234: can you turn it off please? And the colour thing as well, if you haven't yet
[09:39] <nandemonai> Where would I find openssl's crypto library?
[09:39] <thoreauputic_> ompaul: hi there :)
[09:39] <k31th> Morning guys
[09:39] <stiletto> here is a qestion can i access the live cd adn the xp mounted drive from this ubuntu computer too?
[09:39] <aeolist> hi, i am trying to print a pdf file, but it comes out "negative": white letters on a black background
[09:39] <defrysk>  /exec perl -e 'print "Ba" . "na"x(4*3), "\n";'
[09:39] <peej> Bergcube : ubuntu is not designed for rescue or autoconfig, though it does a good job and has strengths that knoppix cannot match. That's why I frogmarch people into ubuntu rather than debian or knoppix. ubuntu is the One True Way (except for when it isn't, if you see what I mean).
[09:40] <_RocH> DSL is
[09:40] <iBalo> Phewww, such along sentence early in the morning
[09:40] <peej> stiletto : aside: are you sure your xp box can net boot?
[09:40] <ompaul> joe234, public announcing scripts for anything are frowned upon, the reason is there are 600+ people in this channel, what would it be like if we all had /away /otherRandomAnnouncements?
[09:40] <stiletto> no
[09:40] <stiletto> i dont rally know. it's a dell.
[09:41] <stiletto> really
[09:41] <Luke> I compiled a custom kernel and when I boot it, it fails with this: "Bug: scheduling while atomic: IRQ 21/0xsomehex/245" anyone know what this is or how to fix it?
[09:41] <stiletto> ./me laughs
[09:41] <stiletto> opps
[09:41] <nandemonai> Anyone? How would I find out where the openssl crypto library is?
[09:41] <stiletto> well here is another questoin can i access the mounted xp drive on the live cd pc with the ubuntu computer ?
[09:42] <_RocH> stiletto, only in ro mode
[09:42] <peej> stiletto : ah. OK, forget the netboot thing then. Best to ask your local linux geek to help you do non-standard stuff like that, in my opinion. Feed him lots of pizza ;-)
[09:42] <Bergcube> peej~  Then I must be strange in your eyes.  I'd rather make one distro my right tool for any job, than have to try to be up-to-date on several.  I'd rather learn one distro as well as I can and take what challenges might come, than keeping on juggling discs and reinstalling and switching back and forth.  BUT! I can agree on the single point of a rescue disc.  Even if I consider Ultimatebootcd a better choice than Knoppix.
[09:42] <robbie_> when I try to install suns jre I get sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5....Package sun-j2re1.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:42] <robbie_> then it says the package may be obsolete
[09:42] <stiletto> haha
[09:43] <stiletto> you mean read only mode?
[09:43] <wastrel> ubuntu is ok
[09:43] <robbie_> I need java to do stuff on the net
[09:43] <robbie_> gcj wont work in konqueror
[09:43] <iBalo> robbie_: U have enabled the custom repos (galaxy :D), haven't you?
[09:43] <_RocH> stiletto, yes , to rw you need ntfs tools
[09:43] <wearrwqrwq> hellooo
[09:44] <robbie_> multiverse...universe...
[09:44] <stiletto> i just want to copy the iso file
[09:44] <robbie_> wheres galaxy?
[09:44] <iBalo> see !easysource for seveas', plf and cipherfunh packages
[09:44] <dyrne> robbie_: if you want to apt-get a jre from regular repos i believe you have to go with blackdown
[09:44] <Bergcube> robbie_~  And where's Waldo!
[09:44] <_RocH> I'm not sure , but recent knoppix might be rw'able with ntfs
[09:45] <iBalo> !captive
[09:45] <ubotu> it has been said that captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[09:45] <_RocH> you can always write something onto fat partition , if you got one there , or create one
[09:45] <stiletto> does apache run on live cd?
[09:46] <wastrel> !java
[09:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:46] <Protocol1> !dvd
[09:46] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[09:46] <_RocH> there are many ntfs projects , also commercial , that actually works ;)
[09:46] <stiletto> there is no way i can access a mounted drive on the live cd machine?
[09:46] <nandemonai> Where is the openssl crypto library for breezy? Or how do I find out? google seems to be no real help
[09:46] <peej> Bergcube : no, you have the hacker mentality. You are like me. I don't care to juggle disks. But the very force of evolution splits linux into various distros/ways to do things which have their strengths. I've stuck with debian as my personal use distro. Knoppix for rescue. Ubuntu for others, and for supporting (though it can be debian too actually).
[09:46] <wastrel> apt-cache search openssl
[09:47] <nandemonai> It's installed just i need to compile rtorrent and it cant fins the library
[09:47] <nandemonai> *find
[09:48] <wastrel> you installed it from the repos?
[09:48] <peej> stiletto : there is always a way. The live cd will likely mount the drive (ie make it visible from linux). But it may be read only, rather than write.
[09:48] <nandemonai> yes
[09:49] <Bergcube> peej~  Then we basically agree.   By the way, I've used Knoppix quite a bit to introduce the microsoftically retarded to a real OS.  And that usually goes very well.  Exactly because knoppix can take any HW you throw at it.
[09:49] <nbound> !multimedia
[09:49] <ubotu> somebody said multimedia was for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[09:49] <wastrel> nandemonai:  did you install the -dev package?
[09:49] <nandemonai> but rtorrent is not in breezy so I need to manually install it.. configure spits as it cant find the library for openssl
[09:50] <nbound> Bergcube, linux supports more hardware out of the box than windows does
[09:50] <nandemonai> no I didnt, I will install that now
[09:50] <peej> stiletto: seriously, do consider getting a linux geek to help you out if you are really stuck.
[09:50] <Bergcube> nbound~  I know.  I thought that was my point.
[09:51] <nandemonai> thanks wastrel
[09:51] <nbound> Bergcube, im just telling u why
[09:52] <sambagirl> does file sharing work for live cd?
[09:54] <dhalgren> hi folks. I have installed 5.10 on an asus laptop, and had huge trouble getting sound, etc. I fixed this issue, but when trying to configure FM radio, I discovered that I do not have a /dev/radio. Does anyone know what I can do about this, please?
[09:54] <sambagirl> i give up bye
[09:54] <acasues> fm radio?
[09:54] <acasues> you mean streaming?
[09:55] <dhalgren> no, I mean fm radio reception via gkrellm or gnome radio
[09:55] <_RocH> stiletto, recent KNOPPIX 4.0.2 can do ntfs rw out of the box , i think it's what you are looking for
[09:55] <acasues> no idea
[09:55] <_RocH> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
[09:56] <acasues> it still sounds like streaming audio
[09:56] <acasues> unless your box has a radio tuner....
[09:56] <dhalgren> yes, i have a radio tuner
[09:56] <acasues> haha
[09:56] <acasues> oh
[09:56] <Hmmmm> guys im looking for a simple too to montor the total consumption of internet bandwidth on one of my servers. can someone suggest something to me please?
[09:56] <nandemonai> stiletto, just dont expect any of your data to actually be there once your done... meh ntfs
[09:57] <acasues> what server are you using hmmm
[09:57] <Hmmmm> im using a redhat enterprise 3 server
[09:57] <Hmmmm> but im not too confortable with redhat
[09:57] <Hentai^XP> nandemonai whats meh ntfs suppose to mean?
[09:58] <acasues> no the funny stuff?
[09:58] <acasues> nice times for sam?
[09:58] <nbound> Hentai^XP, probably 'why bother with it?'
[09:58] <wastrel> your laptop has fm receiver?
[09:58] <acasues> hey, those dont start with the right letters at all
[09:59] <dhalgren> yes, the laptop has an fm receiver. asus a5ec.. multimedia laptop
[09:59] <_RocH> nandemonai, it's is aktually working , it's knoppix ;)
[09:59] <acasues> thats hot
[09:59] <acasues> i want a laptop with an fm reciever
[09:59] <acasues> i just have a crappy IBM thinkpad r51
[10:00] <geneo93> hey my desktop has fm
[10:00] <wastrel> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123893&highlight=%2Fdev%2Fradio
[10:00] <acasues> wtf
[10:00] <acasues> well
[10:00] <AMDXP> acasues i wouldnt mind having your thinkpad
[10:00] <nbound> acasues, its just a portable radio :P
[10:00] <dhalgren> , hey, i just got lucky:-)
[10:00] <wastrel> thinkpad t42
[10:00] <Mabus06> When I start up ubuntu, and go to login, it shows a brown screen as if it's going to go through that sound effect and loading whatever it loads, but it doesn't, it just hangs there. It can't really be a problem with the logging in itself, because I am logged in as that same user on tty1 here just fine. ctrl alt bkspc didnt help.
[10:00] <acasues> where i live there are 14 country stations and 1 bad college station any way
[10:01] <wter> Hi, i need to do this -> "If you have installed java at /usr/local/java1.4 then this line will do the trick:
[10:01] <wter> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java1.4"
[10:01] <wter> what should do the trick for a standard ubuntu installation?
[10:01] <nbound> Mabus06, try setting the vid card driver to vesa
[10:01] <nbound> see if that helps
[10:01] <wastrel> !java
[10:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:01] <acasues> is ubotu a bot?
[10:01] <Mabus06> nbound: how? my graphics adapter is a i810
[10:01] <wter> isnt java1.4 auto installed at a clean installation?!
[10:02] <wastrel> yes
[10:02] <Mabus06> acasues: yes
[10:02] <acasues> haha
[10:02] <dhalgren> acasues: i don't have many stations either, but there is anice oneor two
[10:02] <acasues> i am the n00b
[10:02] <Mabus06> acasues: Not too bad, I've seen people argue with it.
[10:02] <acasues> lol
[10:02] <wter> how can i install a .lib file?
[10:02] <wter> bin*
[10:03] <geneo93> ubotu:  you suck
[10:03] <ubotu> geneo93: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:03] <wastrel> what file?
[10:03] <wter> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[10:03] <Mabus06> !java
[10:03] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:03] <Mabus06> wter: just follow the instructions..
[10:04] <acasues> any one else using xchat?
[10:04] <nbound> Mabus06, by changing ur xorg.conf
[10:04] <wter> ok ill try :)
[10:04] <dhalgren> yup, xchat
[10:04] <acasues> when its in red does that mean its a whisper?
[10:04] <nbound> Mabus06, thats usually the reason ppl get blank startups, because the wrong driver was chosen by install
[10:04] <dhalgren> sorry, don't know that either
[10:04] <wter> error, with " sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 "
[10:05] <acasues> are you running 64bit?
[10:05] <acasues> wter
[10:05] <wter> no
[10:05] <Mabus06> nbound: but I was on gnome fine before... and actually it just loaded up without changing to vesa.. but it must have taken like 15 minutes and all the time I was looking, there was no window in the middle saying what it's loading, like usual
[10:05] <dhalgren> wter: go to ubuntu absolute beginners forum and download automatix. it will automatically install jre for u after u have installed it.
[10:06] <nbound> weird
[10:06] <wter> dhalgren, when i do java --version i get this " java version "1.4.2" "
[10:06] <wter> so its installed auto at installation of ubuntu
[10:06] <wastrel> !automatix
[10:06] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:06] <dhalgren> automatix is mentioned in a sticky message from hairypoofyguy, believe itor not. it woeks very effectively. i installed jre with this tool
[10:07] <dhalgren> wtr: automatix has version 1.5
[10:07] <wter> :O k
[10:07] <Seveas> dhalgren, automatix is eveil, don't recommend it in here
[10:07] <Mabus06> acasues: when it's red, it means that the message is highlighted by your xchat. By default, it will highlight if somebody mentions your nickname. That is why I prefix comments to you with your name, so you will be able to read comments easily. Many other clients are like this. In a popular channel like here, it is a good idea to prefix comments with the nickname of the person you're talking to.
[10:07] <Seveas> !automatix
[10:07] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:07] <defrysk> dhalgren, dont come complaine here is your os fails at some point at some stage
[10:07] <dhalgren> i haven't had the trouble mentioned by ubotu, but it might be wise to thinnk about it ;-)
[10:07] <Seveas> dhalgren, it is
[10:08] <acasues> thanks
[10:08] <Seveas> automatix can seriously hose your system
[10:08] <dhalgren> defrysk: is automatix really that bad?
[10:08] <Seveas> happened to quite a few people already
[10:08] <acasues> i used mirch uptill now : o
[10:08] <acasues> mirc
[10:08] <acasues> that is
[10:08] <defrysk> dhalgren, yes
[10:08] <Seveas> dhalgren, careless overwriting of configuration, forced install of packages...
[10:08] <dhalgren> ok, I will take your advice and uninstall it.
[10:08] <_RocH> easyubuntu does all important jobs as automatix , and it's considered safe
[10:08] <Mabus06> acasues: type ma and then press tab
[10:09] <AMDXP> easyubuntu is that a CD or a app?
[10:09] <Mabus06> tab == autocomplete
[10:09] <_RocH> app
[10:09] <dhalgren> ok, where do i get easyubuntu?
[10:09] <Seveas> _RocH, less unsafe, but certainly not safe..
[10:09] <kameron> tool for checking wpm?
[10:09] <acasues> Mabus06, oh, well thats handy
[10:09] <_RocH> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:09] <kameron> similar to that typing turor program in win that nobody likes?
[10:09] <acasues> Mabus06, just like bash
[10:10] <Mabus06> acasues: yep. when this chan gets really busy it's hard to read anything that isn't addressed to you
[10:10] <_RocH> Seveas, I did it 4 times already on different setups , no bork so long
[10:10] <dhalgren> thanks. i will have a look at easyubuntu, and after what has been said, i will think twice about using it also
[10:10] <marc> looking for how you open .rpm files
[10:10] <Mabus06> marc, use alien
[10:10] <Mabus06> sudo apt-get install alien
[10:10] <wastrel> apt-cache search typing | grep tutor
[10:10] <Mabus06> and then, man alien
[10:10] <Seveas> _RocH, 'worksforme' doesn't mean safe per se, but all serious ickiness from automatix sure is gone
[10:10] <acasues> Mabus06, i wonder if this wored on mirc.. prolly not.  good ol linux logic :] 
[10:11] <dhalgren> having been told that automatix can mess with config files, could that be the reason why I don't have /dev/radio? :-(
[10:11] <dhalgren> i will be very annoyed with myself if it is...
[10:11] <Mabus06> acasues: nickname completion worked, but you had to manually set highlighting to your nickname. With xchat it's like that by default. And, autocompletion suffixes a character (in your case, ",", in my case, ":") and then a space
[10:12] <wastrel> dhalgren:  ls -l /dev/radio*
[10:12] <_RocH> Seveas, yes , and it's easier to undo if something goes wrong , so just one needs to read .man and should be ok
[10:12] <geneo93> dhalgren:  all i used is gmoneradio
[10:12] <dhalgren> wastrel: yes, done that. /dev/radio does not exist
[10:12] <pa5kl> Good morning
[10:12] <Seveas> dhalgren, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case but I really doubt it since afaik automatix doesn't toch udev
[10:13] <Mabus06> anyway, gotta run
[10:13] <wastrel> dhalgren:  did you have the wildcard?
[10:13] <dhalgren> seveas: ok, so is there a way to get /dev/radio into place?
[10:14] <pa5kl> I have a hardware incompatibility issue; any idea where to report/discuss it?
[10:14] <dhalgren> wastrel: not that good at this. How do i use a wildcard?
[10:14] <wastrel> dhalgren:  ls -l /dev/radio*    <= the *
[10:15] <dhalgren> wastrel: ok, will do that now
[10:15] <dhalgren> brb
[10:17] <dhalgren> wastrel: answer is that there is no such file or directory. it (bash) didn't like <= the*
[10:17] <dhalgren> does that matter?
[10:18] <wastrel> dhalgren:  the '*' is the wildcard  it will pick up anything that starts with /dev/radio ,  sudh as /dev/radio0
[10:19] <wastrel> dhalgren:  ls -l /dev/radio*
[10:20] <dhalgren> then the answer is definitely no. there is no radio0, or such like. i am looking at /dev in nautilus now, and have visually checked, as well as running ls - /dev/radio* it simply isn't there
[10:20] <dhalgren> so the question is: is there anything I can do about this?
[10:20] <wastrel> so your radio hardware wasn't recognized
[10:21] <geneo93> dhalgren:  ls pci
[10:21] <dhalgren> ah, silly me, yes, of course!
[10:21] <wastrel> you need to figure out what radio hardware you have & find out what driver to use for it
[10:21] <wastrel> and load the driver
[10:21] <wastrel> good luck :]   i'm going to bed
[10:21] <dhalgren> have a good sleep :-)
[10:22] <dhalgren> geneo93: ls pci produces nothing. will have a look in device manager..
[10:22] <geneo93> no its to see what they cccall the device
[10:23] <bobslaed1> yeah, so, gnome_segv should pop up with a dialog when another app runs into a segfault, but what happends when gnome_segv failes...?
[10:23] <hatake_kakashi> lspci, not ls pci
[10:23] <dhalgren> ah, ok
[10:23] <sinaduel> can you set up an alarm system on the clock?
[10:26] <pa5kl> Hello everybody. I just got a new Dell Dimension, and the kernel barfs so hard that neither the live CD, or the install CD boots. Any suggestions where to go for some feedback?
[10:26] <dhalgren> geneo93: well, i am now well and tuly lost. there are three unrecognised devices showing, and one other known as a RL5c4761, none of which are configured. so how do i find out which one is the radio tuner?
[10:26] <dhalgren> the bloody manual doesn't tell me. heh
[10:27] <geneo93> search google for your laptop devices
[10:27] <dhalgren> geneo93: it's times like this that i realise that i all too often miss the simplest of starting points. i am off to do just that. brb
[10:28] <geneo93> dhalgren:  it has or had windows didn't it
[10:28] <dhalgren> geneo93: yes, it had windoes xp pro
[10:28] <davide> hi all
[10:29] <davide> I've a question regarding packaging generation
[10:29] <davide> anyone with an experience with .deb's?
[10:29] <pa5kl> I do
[10:29] <davide> I'd like to know if this message is 'important0
[10:29] <davide> dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${misc:Depends}
[10:30] <pa5kl> well; first off, it is a warning, and therefore can be ignored
[10:30] <pa5kl> however, that's not a good plan
[10:30] <davide> what have I do?
[10:30] <pa5kl> does your debian/control file have a depends line?
[10:30] <davide> 1 sec
[10:31] <Seveas> Davey, it's safe to ignore
[10:31] <Seveas> davide*
[10:31] <davide> Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
[10:31] <Seveas> davide, if you remove ${misc:Depends} from the Depends: line the message will disappear
[10:31] <OmegaAlpha> hello, anyone have good linux ebooks on their computer?
[10:31] <davide> misc:Depends is needed for something?
[10:32] <Seveas> davide, in some packages yes, in others not
[10:32] <pa5kl> davide: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/11/msg01036.html
[10:32] <davide> if it isn't needed simply will be displaied this message?
[10:33] <davide> Madpilot, are you the *bsd one?
[10:33] <davide> pa5kl, Seveas tnx :)
[10:34] <Exxpert> someone running xgl in here?
[10:34] <Madpilot> davide: the what?
[10:34] <Seveas> Exxpert, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:34] <Exxpert> thanks you!
[10:34] <Exxpert> thank*
[10:35] <dhalgren> going for a while, back soon, i hope, with the device name for radio...
[10:35] <pa5kl> I really dont like it when the kernel says: "Something is really wrong"
[10:36] <leif_> hmmm
[10:36] <OmegaAlpha> pa5kl, at least it didnt say "you are screwed" lol
[10:36] <leif_> hehe
[10:36] <pa5kl> OmegaAlpha: not yet, at any case
[10:36] <pa5kl> Trying the Debian Etch installer now
[10:36] <AntMaz0> i tried installing azureus by typing sudo apt-get install azureus , and it didnt work said that azureus has no install candidate
[10:36] <pa5kl> see if that one does work
[10:36] <Seveas> OmegaAlpha, "something is really wrong" is just the kernels way of saying "you're screwed - bye - panic."
[10:37] <Seveas> !tell AntMaz0 about azureus
[10:37] <OmegaAlpha> i hope i never get that message
[10:38] <leif_> actually, Dapper flight will have some awesome new features...
[10:38] <OmegaAlpha> i wouldnt even know what to do... heck i dont even know how to set up evolution to get my yahoo email...
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Already has... Xgl is amazing. :D
[10:39] <leif_> u right
[10:39] <pa5kl> OmegaAlpha: I *will* get it working
[10:39] <OmegaAlpha> pa5kl,  thats the attitude we all like to hear
[10:39] <pa5kl> checking kernel source for the origin of the error now
[10:39] <OmegaAlpha> pa5kl, what were you doing anyways that might have caused that.. so we can all learn what NOT to do he he
[10:39] <pa5kl> I switched on a new machine
[10:40] <pa5kl> with an install disk in it
[10:40] <pa5kl> that's all :)
[10:40] <leif_> have anyone a clue about that warning dialogue "malicous software using your mouse" or something, that appears for someones?
[10:41] <OmegaAlpha> those damn e-trolls stealing the mouse drivers again.. when will they ever stop
[10:42] <leif_> e-trolls?
[10:42] <OmegaAlpha> leif_, just joking around.
[10:43] <geneo93> shhh
[10:43] <leif_> heheeh, we looked at it, only solution came with Gnomes lack of memory...
[10:44] <geneo93> maybe the buffers are going bad in the ps2 port
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> thats why i like using FLUXBOX
[10:45] <leif_> I c
[10:45] <leif_> tnx
[10:45] <nandemonai> ok ppls I've just installed a ubuntu64 system and want it to output on TV.. I know it works if you install while using just the tv and all is well.. but I had to install with a monitor and now its moved to the TV but wont output of course.. I just need to know what I need to change in my xorg? It's a Nvidia Geforce3 summin or rather.. my xorg.conf is here: http://pastebun.com/566418
[10:45] <nandemonai> TVout is via the rca jack on the ard
[10:46] <OmegaAlpha> when did pastebun come out?
[10:46] <_joey> could someone help me to set up ifup/ifdown scripts to execute commands from /etc/network/interfaces please
[10:46] <_joey> wireless extensions using iw* utils
[10:46] <OmegaAlpha> is that pastebin's counterpart
[10:46] <nandemonai> I'm vnc'd in right now just incase u wondered..
[10:46] <nandemonai> rdrr
[10:46] <nandemonai> http://pastebin.com/566418
[10:46] <Nameeater> how can I uninstall mysql and remove every thing so there is not a trace of it?
[10:47] <pa5kl> Nameeater: apt-get --purge remove mysql
[10:47] <pa5kl> or something along those lines
[10:47] <nandemonai> I'm just not sure what I need to change in the monitor section to get it using compoite out
[10:48] <pa5kl> make sure you check what gets removed, you might have dependencies
[10:48] <OmegaAlpha> Nameeater, or you can try synaptic... whatever is easier for you
[10:49] <AntMaz0> hows does ubuntu not have to restart i liked restarting with windows when i changed my resolution or background
[10:49] <Syns> would anyone know why xp will get online, but ubuntu wont?
[10:49] <dentist> anyone happen to know of a application (not webbased) which monitors ip addresses, so you can see when they go down?
[10:49] <Syns> could it be a problem with the partitioning?
[10:49] <AntMaz0> not a seriuos question
[10:49] <sunchild> hi all, nice to meet ubuntu users today =)))
[10:49] <AntMaz0> just ripping on windows
[10:49] <OmegaAlpha> Syns, what do you mean get online?
[10:49] <nandemonai> Anyone know anything about TV out with xorg?
[10:50] <Syns> well... im online right now..
[10:50] <snowblink> dentist, nagios
[10:50] <AntMaz0> anyone knows if vlc writes to the memory for memory playback
[10:50] <Syns> able to surf..
[10:50] <Syns> get on irc..
[10:50] <sunchild> Tv out, yes, what about it?
[10:50] <Syns> when i boot into linux i cant
[10:50] <basti> funny channel
[10:50] <AntMaz0> anyone knows if vlc writes to the memory for video playback
[10:50] <Syns> last week it worked fine..
[10:50] <nandemonai> Syns, make sure you network and dns settings are done right
[10:50] <AntMaz0> damn that sounds i mean of the video ram
[10:50] <Syns> its dhcp
[10:50] <OmegaAlpha> Syns, did you change the driver or anything?
[10:50] <Syns> it auto config with installation
[10:50] <geneo93> nandemonai:  you might need nvidia-settings to switch the two outputs
[10:50] <Syns> nothing..
[10:51] <Syns> just my isp i changed
[10:51] <Syns> and the fact that now i have a dual boot going
[10:51] <AntMaz0> dual boot with what
[10:51] <nandemonai> geneo93, well if I install the system when hooked to the tv it picks that and works fine so surely the is just an option I can use or some such
[10:51] <Syns> xp
[10:51] <Syns> xp/ubuntu
[10:51] <AntMaz0> OH GOD
[10:51] <OmegaAlpha> Syns, cause i have dual boot with windows.. i use ethernet and wifi.. they work fine.. well i had to do install a driver for my wifi to work...
[10:51] <dentist> snowblink - so you mean use nagios and the viewer
[10:51] <dentist> interesting
[10:51] <geneo93> nandemonai:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[10:52] <AntMaz0> dude take your xp cd and break it in half
[10:52] <nandemonai> Syns, DNS issue ill bet, dhcp sux for that, try setting you /etc/resolv manually
[10:52] <Syns> i have ethernet too..
[10:52] <pio> hello
[10:52] <elkbuntu> AntMaz0, stop that
[10:52] <pio> can i speak with you
[10:52] <pio> ?
[10:52] <Syns> last week i had a cable..
[10:52] <Syns> this week i switched to dsl..
[10:52] <AntMaz0> sorry i just cant stand xp
[10:52] <basti> what is winxp??
[10:52] <Syns> xp runs fine..
[10:52] <elkbuntu> AntMaz0, nor can i, but i need to have it around
[10:52] <AntMaz0> windows 3.1 was more stable than xp
[10:52] <sunchild> nvidia drivers is the solution. Do you run laptop?
[10:52] <basti> yes
[10:52] <elkbuntu> basti, if you're going to ask stupid questions, go elsewhere
[10:53] <basti> sorry
[10:53] <sunchild> and you have knowledge of keyboard command to change monitor?
[10:53] <sinaduel> I remember seeing a "psychiatrist" type program on linux, does anyone know what it is called?
[10:53] <AntMaz0> whats a monitor
[10:53] <AntMaz0> ha
[10:53] <OmegaAlpha> Syns, hmm dont know much about dsl...
[10:53] <elkbuntu> AntMaz0, however, 3.1 doesnt run jack schitt
[10:53] <OmegaAlpha> i use cable
[10:53] <geneo93> brb
[10:53] <snowblink> dentist, nagios can be configured to send you emails when things go down
[10:53] <OmegaAlpha> wait doesnt dsl dial up?
[10:53] <sunchild> monitor = screen
[10:53] <Syns> something like that..
[10:53] <basti> dsl is dialing but no real tel number
[10:54] <nandemonai> no dsl does not dial up not in the convential sence anyway
[10:54] <Syns> its ethernet.. actually
[10:54] <Syns> kinda
[10:54] <basti> exactly
[10:54] <elkbuntu> dsl uses the same line as telephone, but on a different frequency
[10:54] <OmegaAlpha> syns this may not mean anything.. but click the connection icon on the task bar.. and get to the configure window
[10:54] <AntMaz0> you stick withxp and ill just get over it you know how quickly i got over windows a day
[10:54] <AntMaz0> anyways
[10:54] <OmegaAlpha> Syns, maybe you need to set it to ppp
[10:54] <OmegaAlpha> syns maybe its on eth stil
[10:54] <basti> pppoe is the right protocol
[10:55] <Syns> hrm..
[10:55] <Syns> i dont have a modem in this computer
[10:55] <nandemonai> depends how he has it setup.. is it a standalone router?
[10:55] <sunchild> My streamtuner stoped recording, it plays radiostations but unable to record, any clues?
[10:55] <Syns> it cant be anything else but ethernet
[10:55] <dhalgren> hi
[10:55] <raphink> hi guys
[10:55] <pitti> raphink: I tried it, too, I didn't get transparency in window contents
[10:55] <Syns> yes
[10:55] <raphink> pitti: funny
[10:55] <basti> good question, router or normal modem?
[10:55] <Syns> its standalone
[10:55] <pitti> raphink: but I didn't try very hard either
[10:55] <raphink> pitti: it's sent to compiz though
[10:56] <nandemonai> Syns, again set dns manually, try that.. /etc/resolv.conf
[10:56] <Syns> hrm..
[10:56] <AntMaz0> does vlc or mplayer play video through the video memory and if so how do i change it to run on the motherboard memory or virtual memory another question is there a virtual memory option in ubuntu
[10:56] <Syns> from my understanding...
[10:56] <davide> a question regarding package-making: have I to add "-1ubuntu0" to the version?
[10:56] <Syns> its a modem with routing capability
[10:56] <boz> sunchildm what station are you trying to record
[10:56] <Syns> even wireless
[10:56] <nandemonai> how do you connect to the modem?
[10:56] <nandemonai> ethernet? dhcp?
[10:56] <Syns> my services is with msn for anyone who is familiar with them
[10:57] <OmegaAlpha> blah microshaft..
[10:57] <pa5kl> well; leaving again
[10:57] <sunchild> boz, different, but mostly SKY
[10:57] <basti> bye
[10:57] <Syns> my ethernet card to the modem.. the modem to the phone line
[10:57] <pa5kl> onwards to battle
[10:57] <sinaduel> I remember seeing a "psychiatrist" type program on linux, does anyone know what it is called?
[10:57] <raphink> pfiew
[10:57] <raphink> crashes a lot
[10:57] <davide> Seveas, pa5kl: I need your help :)
[10:57] <boz> I haD THAT PROBLEM WITH Rdio free colorDO,  THEY HAVE SOME KINDA SOFTWARE THAT WON'T LET YOU RECORD
[10:58] <Syns> dhcp is only suppose to autoconfig the dns and ip correct?
[10:58] <boz> srry bout the caps, lol
[10:58] <OmegaAlpha> Syns, did you try searching wiki for the solution?
[10:58] <AntMaz0> i take it anyone doesnt know the answer to that
[10:58] <nandemonai> Syns, I know that my router will work complete dhcp with windows but buggers up the dhcp part.. in resolv.. I manually edit resolv turn off dhcp for the resolv part an viola
[10:58] <nandemonai> in linux i mean
[10:58] <sunchild> ok, tnx Boz, I had those thoughts.. but youre problems may be equal to mine... so that may be right
[10:58] <dhalgren> i am back with some information regarding the lack of /dev/radio on my system. it seems that realtek designed it and the device itself is made by AVerMedia and isan M103, whatever that means. Needless to say, they provide no lnux support. where is the best place to look for a driver for the tv/fm tuner bits and pieces?
[10:59] <Syns> nandemonai.. can i msg u?
[10:59] <nandemonai> sure
[10:59] <sunchild> Thankyou Boz...
[10:59] <boz> np, i knocked myself out for i figured it out ; )
[11:00] <sunchild> wonder what software it is?
[11:01] <sunchild> you can allways connect a soundcable from outgoing and record it whith audacity...
[11:02] <AntMaz0> anyone think hl with work with wine
[11:03] <colm> AntMaz0, halflife works well with wine
[11:04] <Exxpert> how do i remove a symlink?
[11:04] <AntMaz0> does it
[11:04] <AntMaz0> remeber when planet half life use to be free and fileplanet
[11:04] <bimberi> Exxpert: rm
[11:05] <AntMaz0> anyone know where to get updates for hl for free
[11:05] <Exxpert> so insted of "sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X" it would be "sudo rm -sf /usr/bin/Xgl /etc/X11/X"??
[11:05] <colm> AntMaz0, using steam
[11:05] <bimberi> Exxpert: no
[11:05] <AntMaz0> steam work under wine as well
[11:05] <Exxpert> oh shit..:-D
[11:05] <Exxpert> pardon my language..
[11:06] <Chousuke> Exxpert: err
[11:06] <ompaul> Exxpert, that is all on the wiki page for XGL
[11:06] <colm> AntMaz0, yes - try google http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam
[11:07] <bimberi> Exxpert: just remove the link - which would be 'rm /etc/X11/X' but it looks like there's better info around :)
[11:07] <Toma-> !xgl
[11:07] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:07] <Exxpert> ompaul:you have right!,, gotta get me some better glasses;-)
[11:08] <Exxpert> ompaul: btw,,i have solved that bootscreen issue we talked about yesterday..
[11:08] <AntMaz0> damnet had another question and my brain had a fatal eror
[11:09] <sunchild> ok, we found out the problem with streamtuner..... install streamripper... it fixes some problems (unknown) and recording starts again... sudo apt-get install streamripper
[11:09] <AntMaz0> oh now i remeber , with xp and 2k i had deamon tools for iso images how do either enable ubuntu to read images or is there a toold for it
[11:09] <darwin> hello, may i ask something
[11:09] <sunchild> u welcome darwin
[11:10] <darwin> i just install my ubuntu cd, but everytime i login, it always show an error that it could not find ubuntu site
[11:10] <Exxpert> Its aliiiive..muhahaha
[11:10] <darwin> so the gnome would not work properly
[11:10] <darwin> i can't use sudo interminal
[11:11] <sunchild> darwin, wait
[11:11] <ompaul> Exxpert, on the wiki there is a page called BootOptions care to add the how to, to it? very simply go to launchpad.net register and then come back to the wiki log in and off you go
[11:11] <kameron> i want to drop a bunch of .vobs and .bups into a .iso file. can i use tar to do this?
[11:11] <AntMaz0> darwin ctrl alt f2 with bring you to prompt and then login as root , the type adduser yourname admin
[11:11] <sunchild> Darwin, are u new to Linux?
[11:11] <colm> AntMaz0,      mount -t iso9660 -o loop image.iso /mnt/isoimage
[11:12] <rend> !vlc
[11:12] <ubotu> it has been said that vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[11:12] <AntMaz0> type that in terminal
[11:12] <Kwipt> Ugh! Maybe someone here can help :p I'm looking for a site where I can download the script that allows me to upload torrents to a server over webbrowser and it will download them. I've seen it on ubuntu forums before but for the life of me can't find it again nore in google :p
[11:12] <sunchild> AntMaz told u how to do...
[11:12] <rend> !codecs
[11:12] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:12] <darwin> yes, i just install my ubuntu
[11:12] <darwin> in login screen, i press ctrl alt f2 ?
[11:13] <AntMaz0> you can do it now if youd like then press ctrl alt f7 to go back to gnomw\e
[11:13] <coNP> After switching to dapper it won't load neither soundcard nor ethernet kernel modules; I think it is because hotplug got removed. Any ideas how to fix this?
[11:13] <AntMaz0> colm: type that in the terminal
[11:13] <darwin> ok, then i can use sudo in terminal ?
[11:13] <_cris24_> hello
[11:14] <AntMaz0> no root
[11:14] <AntMaz0> oh yea
[11:14] <AntMaz0> sorry im tired
[11:14] <nandemonai> Syns, any good?
[11:14] <darwin> o, it errors told me to add ubuntu in /etc/hosts, what that ?
[11:14] <AntMaz0> huh
[11:14] <colm> AntMaz0, yes, you can simply mount a .iso in linux - no need for extra software
[11:14] <cyberic_s> whats the trick to installing a .deb package
[11:14] <bimberi> !deb
[11:14] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:15] <cyberic_s> thanks
[11:15] <AntMaz0> so right click will work opton to mount
[11:15] <bimberi> cyberic_s: np :)
[11:15] <Exxpert> ompaul: It was kinda easy, in fact its already in the forums! "http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=670508&postcount=2"
[11:16] <AntMaz0> i figured all the time i spent restarting fixing erorrs with windows that that time i would just spend figuring out linux
[11:16] <dentist> urgh.. what packages are needed to run .jar files.. i've got java-common
[11:16] <AntMaz0> im lazy
[11:16] <Kwipt> Anyone? :( Bit torrent over html... can't remember the project name :X
[11:16] <AntMaz0> well now i am after working all night
[11:16] <AntMaz0> kwipt just use azuerus
[11:17] <Exxpert> ompaul: But i used another code for the size.. wait a sec..
[11:17] <cyberic_s> bimberi, is there any way to install with dependencies?
[11:17] <Syns> nandemo..
[11:17] <Kwipt> Nah i'm after this script that you put on your sever then you upload the torrent to it over http and it downloads the file
[11:17] <AntMaz0> darwin were is this magical eroor your getting
[11:17] <Syns> check privatemsg
[11:17] <nandemonai> I closed it sry
[11:17] <AntMaz0> oh
[11:17] <Kwipt> I just can't find the name of the project now :/
[11:17] <AntMaz0> my cousin has that but he wont be up for another hour
[11:18] <AntMaz0> so i cant ask him
[11:18] <Kwipt> You talking to me? :)
[11:18] <AntMaz0> oh no he has that for azuerus nevermind
[11:18] <Syns> whenever ur ready ill paste it again
[11:18] <Kwipt> ah okay
[11:18] <AntMaz0> my mental ping is getting higher every few minuetes
[11:18] <Exxpert> ompaul: Here it is! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106238
[11:19] <leif_> anyone heard when Songbird will come to Debian pkg? www.songbirdnest.com
[11:19] <sinaduel> what exactly is "swap"
[11:19] <leif_> or ubuntu
[11:19] <nandemonai> sinaduel, virtual memory
[11:19] <sinaduel> virtual memory....as in it doesn't actually exist?
[11:20] <volvoguy> hey guys. now that i'm done playing with xgl/compiz, i've switched back to xorg but i'm missing my window borders/title bar. i'm guessing metacity isn't running. any idea how to get it back?
[11:20] <bimberi> cyberic_s: only if you use an apt tool (eg. apt-get) is the package not available in the repositories?
[11:20] <dhalgren> \leave
[11:20] <nandemonai> sinaduel, like a page file in winblows.. meaning its memory on hdd space not from 'real' memory or ram
[11:20] <sinaduel> ohhh okay, thankyou for explaining
[11:20] <colm> volvoguy, try Alt+F2 -> metacity
[11:20] <nandemonai> np
[11:20] <cyberic_s> its opera
[11:20] <cyberic_s> most of the packages in the repositories are out dates
[11:21] <cyberic_s> *outdated
[11:21] <AntMaz0> colm so i type that command in terminal and the name of the iso image right just making sure
[11:21] <cyberic_s> I got it going now
[11:21] <volvoguy> colm, Alt+F2 doesn't do anything.
[11:21] <cyberic_s> one more question, then I am good
[11:21] <lewwy> heh I have a question
[11:21] <dentist> any clues on the java guys?
[11:21] <colm> AntMaz0, yes, your iso image name
[11:21] <cyberic_s> how do you forse the refresh of the applications menu
[11:21] <lewwy> If /quit and /part were sitting in a tree, and /part fell out, who would be left?
[11:21] <bimberi> cyberic_s: killall gnome-panel
[11:22] <AntMaz0> ubotu tell dentist: about java
[11:22] <colm> volvoguy, open a terminal and type metacity
[11:22] <bimberi> cyberic_s: seems drastic but works :)
[11:22] <cyberic_s> thanks
[11:22] <cyberic_s> you have been a big help
[11:22] <AntMaz0> ok hanks then i assume unmount to unmount it
[11:22] <bimberi> cyberic_s: yw :)
[11:22] <volvoguy> colm, can do. will that set it back permanently?
[11:22] <colm> yes
[11:22] <colm> volvoguy, not sure...
[11:22] <AntMaz0> ubotu tell dentist about java
[11:23] <volvoguy> colm, ok. thanks. if it doesn't, i can get 'em back manually until i figure it out. :)
[11:23] <colm> volvoguy, you might need to type "metacity --replace &"
[11:24] <volvoguy> colm, i think i tried that, but i just did it again. i'll see if it sticks after i restart x.
[11:24] <colm> volvoguy, try saving your session on exit...  don't know if metacity is included, but worth a shot
[11:25] <colm> volvoguy, yes metacity is in your session, so saving session on exit should fix
[11:26] <volvoguy> colm, i must have made a typo before. the "--replace" seems to have done the trick. thanks!
[11:26] <paperboy> hi all
[11:26] <phbc50> hello
[11:26] <dentist> !javadebs
[11:27] <sinaduel> on kubuntu, how does one change the clock from 24 hour to 12 hour clock
[11:28] <colm> volvoguy, goodstuff.
[11:28] <_root_> has anybody compiled multipath-tools ?
[11:28] <_root_> i am getting dereferencing pointer errors
[11:28] <kos> im trying to install ubuntu 6.04 but on boot it says: /dev/ram does not exist
[11:28] <kos> (this is my first time installing ubuntu)
[11:29] <elkbuntu> kos, system specs?
[11:30] <MASH4077> just plugged in a usb external drive. how do I get Ubuntu to see it?
[11:30] <kos> elkbuntu, p4, 512mb ram, 60gb hdd
[11:31] <gnomefreak> kos: that sounds like a bad either iso or burn i dont think thats a hardware issue
[11:31] <gnomefreak> kos: can i make a suggestion? since its your first time you might wanna start with 5.10
[11:32] <elkbuntu> MASH4077, is it not showing up in 'Places' or places -> mount?
[11:33] <tomaj> whats an IM program that supports msn voice convos?
[11:33] <p0windah> tomaj: msn messenger ?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> tomaj: gaim does i thought
[11:33] <p0windah> gnomefreak: since when ?
[11:34] <tomaj> p0windah, on ubuntu obviously
[11:34] <tomaj> gnomefreak, nah i cant find it in menu
[11:34] <gnomefreak> p0windah: thats where the i thought comes in
[11:34] <kos> gnomefreak, impossible for me to get my hands onto a 5.10 version until it gets shipped to the middle of the ocean :)
[11:34] <tomaj> i just want voice chat thats compatible with windows really
[11:34] <paperboy> lol
[11:34] <p0windah> tomaj: according to gaim.sf.net gaim2 beta still does not support voice - in any capacity
[11:35] <elkbuntu> kos then where did you get 6.04?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> kos: youu can download and burn it as you did with 6.04 and 6.04 is unstable
[11:35] <MASH4077> gnomefreak, I do not see anything listed in there. I checked in media and mnt.
[11:35] <deeler> i've set up a terminal server with Xvnc, works fine, but when i log out of the windowmanager, the gdm-greeter doesn't appear anymore... i have to respawn the Xvnc for that ... any idea how to solve this ?
[11:35] <tomaj> p0windah, hmm ok
[11:35] <p0windah> tomaj: skype is your best bet right now
[11:35] <tomaj> p0windah, ok thanks
[11:35] <p0windah> tomaj: be aware there is a device locking issue with skype tho
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kos about dapper
[11:35] <tomaj> p0windah, device locking?
[11:36] <MASH4077> gnomefreak, I just plugged it in. Will Ubuntu see it and set it up?
[11:36] <Kwipt> Hi could anyone tell me where chost cflags info is in ubuntu?
[11:36] <flo> hiho...does anybone know the command to downgrade from dapper to breezy?
[11:36] <kdean06> Anybody up for a round of "What's going on?" dealing with my wonky ethernet cards? It's a long type-out..
[11:36] <gnomefreak> MASH4077: huh?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> flo: you dont
[11:36] <gnomefreak> flo:  you have to re-install breezy
[11:36] <MASH4077> gnomefreak, the usb hd
[11:36] <Syns> worked
[11:36] <flo> damn
[11:36] <ALL4N> ef
[11:37] <gnomefreak> MASH4077: i dont know?
[11:37] <p0windah> tomaj: last time I checked, there is a documented bug with skype:linux, whereby it does not release the sound device after you use it - preventing other apps using your sound device
[11:37] <flo> ok...thx
[11:37] <tomaj> p0windah, oh ok
[11:37] <tomaj> p0windah, fuck that then lol
[11:37] <tomaj> i mean
[11:37] <tomaj> p0windah, never mind that then
[11:37] <p0windah> tomaj: you will need to hack in asynch sound support into ubuntu too, but its possible :)
[11:37] <MASH4077> elkbuntu, it doesn't show up in media or mnt
[11:38] <tomaj> p0windah, lol nvm ill just live without voice conversations
[11:38] <kdean06> I am running a server install, and also adding VHCS2-2.4.7.1 per the Debian/Ubuntu install guide. All goes well, but as soon as I finish, and log in, my ethernet card dies and prompts a lot of (to me) gibberish. It's done this on Debian and on Ubuntu, with two different ethernet cards in two PCI slots.
[11:38] <p0windah> tomaj: if you think thats a hastle, you should try playing around with multihead in ubuntu :)
[11:39] <tomaj> p0windah, i dont even want to know what multihead is lol, its sounds kinda kinky tho
[11:39] <p0windah> tomaj: using more than one monitor on your computer
[11:39] <Madpilot> tomaj: multiple monitors - kinkiness depends on what he's viewing on all those monitors! :P
[11:40] <tomaj> p0windah, oh isnt that easy? dont you just use the control pannel?
[11:40] <X_Billy> something interesting happened the other night, and i would like your opinions on why
[11:40] <p0windah> tomaj: what control panel ?
[11:40] <tomaj> p0windah, what card?
[11:40] <X_Billy> the other night, my internet connection was barely there, so anyway, i try to use linux, my ubuntu version start booting up, it stops for a while on the part where it synchronizes the time with that at an ubuntu website, then went on booting, the random number generator failed, but everything else was fine. Then I enter my user name and pass but I'm locked out of my box? I use recovery mode to get back into my box, but I'm wondering why I was locked out
[11:40] <cyberic_s> anybody know of a jre package
[11:40] <X_Billy> in the first place. This happened one other time when my internet stopped working
[11:40] <p0windah> tomaj: for ati right now there are several device drivers you can "try" - all of which will require you to manually edit your xorg.conf to get multihead working
[11:41] <tomaj> p0windah, fglrx doesnt work with control pannel?
[11:41] <cyberic_s> I have tried in vein to get the self extracting file off of suns website to work
[11:41] <p0windah> tomaj: and none of the methods to do it are superior to the others, each has a major downside..
[11:41] <tomaj> tell cyberic_s about java
[11:41] <tomaj> !tell cyberic_s about java
[11:41] <`JD> Anyone know how to install Auacious?
[11:41] <`JD> I'm stuck on this command line thing
[11:42] <tomaj> gtg
[11:42] <tomaj> thanks for helps guys
[11:42] <tomaj> help even
[11:42] <X_Billy> um, excuse me, not to sound rude, but if anyone could spare a moment of their time
[11:42] <MASH4077> can anyone assist me in setting up a external usb hd?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[11:43] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:43] <gnomefreak> MASH4077:  is it not listed in removable devices?
[11:43] <cyberic_s> good info, but I am having a problem with repositories coming form ubuntu.com
[11:44] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: what country code are you using?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> and what is your problem?
[11:44] <munzir> hi, /var/run/mysqld permissions are 770 which means any user besides mysql and root can't access the database which is a problem (no?) so i chmod it to 775 but whenever I restart the PC it again changed automatically to 770, what am I missing please?
[11:44] <MASH4077> gnomefreak, is that under file system?
[11:45] <cyberic_s> Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:45] <cyberic_s> not I guess
[11:45] <gnomefreak> MASH4077: system>prefferences>removable drives and media
[11:46] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: try sudo apt-get update again if that doesnt work can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[11:46] <cyberic_s> k
[11:46] <paperboy> incredible, my new Nokia 6280 just works fine when connected to usb, no software requaired ...
[11:46] <paperboy> full support
[11:47] <cyberic_s> not getting that problem anymore
[11:47] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: update fixed it?
[11:47] <cyberic_s> yeah
[11:47] <cyberic_s> but...
[11:48] <gnomefreak> but????
[11:48] <`JD> Wait...
[11:48] <`JD> Whats the command to set the directory...
[11:48] <cyberic_s> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:48] <cyberic_s> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:48] <cyberic_s> is only available from another source
[11:48] <`JD> Its sudo... somthing...
[11:48] <cyberic_s> so
[11:48] <cyberic_s> must be a new version of jre
[11:48] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: use synaptic for that
[11:48] <MASH4077> gnomefreak, I have 5 tabs in Removable Drives and Media. None of those tabs list devices.
[11:48] <cyberic_s> ok will search for j2re
[11:49] <gnomefreak> :( sorry MASH4077
[11:49] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: search for blackdown
[11:49] <gnomefreak> MASH4077: i really have never mounted anything from ubuntu :( other than what is normally mounted like cdroms
[11:50] <cyberic_s> nothing
[11:50] <cyberic_s> hrm
[11:51] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: do you have multiverse enabled?
[11:51] <cyberic_s> I dont think so
[11:51] <`JD> How do I set terminal to home?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: only other way to get java than is to download and install it from java site or javadebs but enabling multiverse is easiest
[11:52] <gnomefreak> `JD: it starts off as home if you changed it and want back into home type cd than hit enter
[11:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cyberic_s about multiverse
[11:53] <cyberic_s> I added "multiverse" to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[11:53] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: you need universe infront of it
[11:53] <chrome> can anyone recommend an identd that will work to forward identd requests to machines behind a NAT firewall (iptables on linux)
[11:54] <gnomefreak> so it would read us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe multivers
[11:54] <gnomefreak> e
[11:55] <Demigod> how can i mount the cd drive?
[11:55] <Madpilot> Demigod: it should automount when you put a CD in it
[11:55] <munzir> hi, I found that my /var/run/mysqld directory in my ubuntu system is set to 770 and owned by mysql.root I set it to 775 so that any user can connect to mysql but when I restart the PC it again changed to 770, what am I missing please?
[11:56] <pdc303> Demigod: try  mount /media/cdrom
[11:56] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: im not sure how many repos you need to do that too off the top of head but i sent you instructions for enabling universe and multiverse from ubotu
[11:57] <cyberic_s> ok I got it
[11:57] <Demigod> thanks
[11:57] <pdc303> Demigod: "mount <device>" or "mount <folder>" will mount a device. Have a look at /etc/fstab to see what your devices are set as and where they mount to
[11:58] <flodine> anyone using dapper today
[11:58] <gnomefreak> flodine: yes
[11:58] <coNP> flodine: me
[11:58] <pdc303> yep
[11:58] <virus> I'm having some troubles with Dapper - after upgrading from Hoary to dapper it doesn't find my /dev/hda5 anymore... after adding them manually it does boot, but DMA is off ... and besides having to add them manualy when booting the system is ugly. ;-)
[11:58] <Demigod> i got this message
[11:58] <Demigod> root@linux:/etc# ./fstab
[11:58] <Demigod> bash: ./fstab: Permission denied
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Demigod: sudo
[11:59] <pdc303> Demigod: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:59] <ompaul> virus, can you take your conversation about dapper to #ubuntu+1
[11:59] <coNP> Demigod: why do you want to run 'fstab'?
[11:59] <flodine> gnomefreak running solid or just ok
[11:59] <virus> ompaul, okie.
[11:59] <gnomefreak> flodine: it has its dependency issues still but not too bad i still wouldnt run it on everyday pc
[12:00] <pdc303> Demigod: fstab is not available to 'normal' users. You have to 'sudo' to gain root privelages to view it
[12:00] <Demigod> to see whats my devices are set as and where they mount to
[12:00] <cyberic_s> well guys thanks for all the help
[12:00] <cyberic_s> gnite
[12:00] <flodine> gnomefreak you on 32 bit
[12:00] <gnomefreak> flodine: i can tell you more tomorrow  after this kernel upgrade
[12:00] <X_Billy> hi everyone, i recently lost internet connection for a while, when i tried booting my ubuntu version of linux, the random number generator failed to boot and i ended up locked out of my box (my pass wouldn't work), anyway i used recovery mode to get back into linux but i'm perplexed as to why i was locked out of the internet in the first place? Does anyone know why and how to prevent it from happening in the future. This happened another time my internet wa
[12:00] <X_Billy> s down.
[12:00] <gnomefreak> yes 32bit all the way
[12:01] <theking_2100> hi every one
[12:01] <Demigod> pdc303 Demigod: sudo gedit /etc/fstab<--- its all blank
[12:01] <cyberic_s> do you guys have a special location you put programs that do not have a install
[12:01] <nbound> !nvidia
[12:01] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:02] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: what do you mean?
[12:02] <g3dd0e> golly dont we all love our linux
[12:02] <cyberic_s> like I just downloaded limewire, but right now its "installed" on my desktop
[12:02] <pdc303> Demigod: not possible!
[12:02] <gnomefreak> cyberic_s: either desktop or home those are the 2 i use
[12:02] <g3dd0e> instead of limewire, use frostwire
[12:02] <pdc303> Demigod: sudo mount -l        then
[12:02] <g3dd0e> limewire crashes too much
[12:02] <cyberic_s> ok
[12:02] <g3dd0e> use automatix
[12:02] <pdc303> Demigod: that will just list your mounts/mount points
[12:03] <g3dd0e> to install it
[12:03] <gnomefreak> no dont use automatix
[12:03] <gsuveg> re
[12:03] <g3dd0e> whats wrong with automatix?
[12:03] <theking_2100> can someone help me?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[12:03] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[12:03] <g3dd0e> i used it...
[12:03] <Demigod> yup
[12:03] <Demigod> thats better :D
[12:03] <g3dd0e> hmmm
[12:03] <gsuveg> can i make trash-folder on samba server ?
[12:03] <Demigod> cheers by the way
[12:03] <cyberic_s> I will not use it
[12:03] <g3dd0e> it didnt really do me any trouble
[12:03] <gnomefreak> use easyubuntu
[12:03] <cyberic_s> dont like that sounds of that
[12:04] <gnomefreak> g3dd0e: just because you dont see it doesnt mean it didnt
[12:04] <gorthaug> hi
[12:04] <ZyntaxError> Can anyone tell me where i cand find info about the command lsusb? the man pages dont really say that mutch
[12:04] <gnomefreak> its a major security risk and you might never see it
[12:04] <gorthaug> i'm in dapper and i can't hear the pc speaker  someone known why??
[12:05] <theking_2100> i need some help pls
[12:05] <AMDXP> gnomefreak i see where to download easyubuntu but how do you start it
[12:05] <g3dd0e> how can i fix the security risk?
[12:05] <gorthaug> some one in dapper whit the same problem?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> theking_2100: ask your question
[12:05] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[12:05] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:05] <theking_2100> how can i install my wifi card
[12:05] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell theking_2100 about wifi
[12:05] <theking_2100> gnomefreak i tried last night with soundray
[12:06] <Demigod> how do i know the space on the hdd i got left?
[12:06] <g3dd0e> how can i prevent anything happening to my computer, after already using automatix?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> theking_2100: i have never had the urge to use a wireless card so that is the best i know
[12:06] <gnomefreak> g3dd0e: the damage is done already more than likely
[12:07] <gorthaug> someone in dapper?
[12:07] <g3dd0e> what exactly damage does it do?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> g3dd0e: and from my understanding unistalling it isnt very helpful but ive never used it
[12:07] <AMDXP> theking_2100 is your card supported?
[12:07] <theking_2100> gnomefreak i ve tryed quite a lot thing and it didn't work
[12:07] <nbound> theking_2100, u can try ndiswrapper
[12:07] <theking_2100> AMDXP supported but no driver for linux
[12:08] <nbound> ubotu tell theking_2100 about ndiswrapper
[12:08] <theking_2100> nbound yes
[12:08] <AMDXP> yeah you have to try ndiswrapper
[12:08] <theking_2100> says that the driver is invalid
[12:09] <nbound> then ur not using the right file :P
[12:09] <Syns> auto dhcp keeps putting my routers ip addy in /etc/resolv.conf.. how do i stop that?
[12:09] <Madpilot> Demigod: one easy way is to type "df -h" in a terminal (without the quotes)
[12:09] <theking_2100> but i took the file from windows and windows uses those file
[12:10] <g3dd0e> i dont understand exactly what security risk automatix causes
[12:10] <rockyburt> here's a question, the bcm43xx-based interface that gets loaded automatically for my bcm43xx wireless doesn't work, so i need to use ndiswrapper, but i can't figure out how the new wireless gets configured (its not in /etc/network/interfaces) -- how do i disable the bcm43xx based interface? or make it use ndiswrapper ?
[12:10] <g3dd0e> what can they do, hack my computer now or something?
[12:10] <nbound> theking_2100, was it an .ini file?
[12:11] <ZyntaxError> What is pipes? where can i read about it?
[12:11] <nbound> ZyntaxError, google it :)
[12:11] <theking_2100> .sys and there is the same name .inf , i install the . inf
[12:11] <AMDXP> g3dd0e no but it supposedly changes some key files and it could crash your system later on down the road and you would end up re-installing your system
[12:11] <g3dd0e> ohhh thank you AMDXP, then thats no problem as I'm just testing ubuntu
[12:11] <rich00> hi all
[12:12] <nbound> theking_2100, and that was all? the rprobly should be more than those 2 files
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ZyntaxError: a pipe is |
[12:12] <Nameeater> ZyntaxError: http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&q=unix+pipes&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[12:12] <theking_2100> nbound ?
[12:12] <Syns> auto dhcp keeps putting my routers ip addy in /etc/resolv.conf.. how do i stop that?
[12:12] <nbound> there probly*
[12:12] <theking_2100> nbound a third one .ca i think
[12:12] <gnomefreak> time for class see everyone tomorrow
[12:13] <ZyntaxError> thanks
[12:13] <nbound> theking_2100, normally a company will put setup files and stuff so windblows noobs can install it emselves
[12:14] <nbound> which makes me think uve got the wrong bunch of files
[12:15] <bimberi> Syns: Either fix your DHCP server so that it gives out the right settings or lock resolv.conf so that even root can't modify it - "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf" (chattr -i unlocks it)
[12:15] <munzir> Hi, in my 6.04 ubuntu /var/run/mysqld is chmod to 770 on each restart, I can't find which script does this, any help? it should be 775
[12:15] <rockyburt> so does anyone know how i can recongfigure the module used by my wireless device (currently mapped to eth1) ?
[12:15] <theking_2100> nbound should i explor my cd then and input all the file i found . inf?
[12:16] <LoPMX> hi, what is the maximal block size for ext2?
[12:16] <theking_2100> what are the extension needed in ndiswrapper
[12:16] <nandemonai> Will I ever be content?
[12:16] <nbound> theking_2100, no, u should find the right driver (probably download it from website, for newest version), then point ndiswrapper to the file it needs
[12:17] <nandemonai> maybe I'll just google it...
[12:17] <nbound> !ndiswrapper
[12:17] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:17] <nbound> there u go theking_2100
[12:17] <mjr> LoPMX, 4k
[12:18] <gaso> Does anybody know, ahy, when I typ IP of my FTP(vsftpd) server in mozilla, it doesn't direct me on my directory tree. I have to type anonymous@IP and then works OK
[12:18] <Arafangion> LoPMX: Personally, I would just use the three main "types" of content described in the man page, mainly the one optimized for news (small files), or large files, or 'normal'.
[12:18] <MilaNL> i have a question
[12:19] <LoPMX> hmmm
[12:19] <MilaNL> can i install dapper 6.04 on a fakeraid disk?
[12:20] <LoPMX> hmmm, what is the difference between buffers and spoolers?
[12:20] <LoPMX> i'm asking as i got some questions to solve
[12:20] <Syns> thanks
[12:20] <gaso> Does anybody know, ahy, when I typ IP of my FTP(vsftpd) server in mozilla, it doesn't direct me on my directory tree. I have to type anonymous@IP and then works OK
[12:20] <theking_2100> nbound ok i will try thx
[12:22] <gaso> Does anybody know, why, when I type IP of my FTP(vsftpd) server in mozilla, it doesn't direct me on my directory tree. I have to type anonymous@IP and then works OK, could it be done without anonymous username, how?
[12:24] <nandemonai> I dont use anon ftp servers so no idea I'm afraid
[12:25] <larsemil> whats the problem when the gdesklets graphs always show 100%
[12:26] <nandemonai> as in cpu at 100%
[12:26] <nandemonai> ?
[12:27] <larsemil> nandemonai, exactly. but it is not at 100%
[12:28] <nandemonai> meaning u have checked top or something and that's not the case just the desklet showing full?
[12:33] <mgiles> heh.. I made the mistake of upgrading to dapper a few days ago (5 days) and now I have no ETH0, when I d a dmesg I get "eth0: VIA Rhine II and eth0: MII PHY found at address ...  any idea's on how I can get this thing back on the network?
[12:34] <gaso> Maybe anon FTP direction to dir tree, has something with mozilla, with wget works ok.
[12:34] <larsemil> nandemonai, all my desklets are showing 100%, cpu, mem, hd. but only the graphs. the desklets also prompt the correct values in  a text.
[12:34] <nandemonai> ahh okies.. that is odd.. sorry no idea what would cause that
[12:35] <nandemonai> gaso, try firefox
[12:38] <visik7> anyone got wpasupplicant work with ipw2200 ?
[12:42] <theking_2100> hi
[12:43] <theking_2100> i just want to know what the equivalent command to make install in ubuntu
[12:43] <nandemonai> depends what exactly you mean
[12:43] <davide> theking_2100: ???
[12:43] <davide> you mean with Makefile ?
[12:44] <theking_2100> davide soory i m a noob
[12:44] <mgiles> heh.. I made the mistake of upgrading to dapper a few days ago (5 days) and now I have no ETH0, when I d a dmesg I get "eth0: VIA Rhine II and eth0: MII PHY found at address ...  any idea's on how I can get this thing back on the network?
[12:44] <davide> to install a just compiled program?
[12:44] <nandemonai> Use apt to retrieve and install software
[12:44] <davide> or something else?
[12:44] <theking_2100> davidei find a tutorial to install drivers
[12:44] <davide> if they are drivers, I cannot help
[12:44] <theking_2100> davide and it says to type in 'make install'
[12:45] <davide> theking_2100, type make install
[12:45] <nandemonai> if you need to compile something you cannot get through apt then install build-essential to get gcc and make
[12:45] <davide> if it doesn't work
[12:45] <davide> you need to be root
[12:45] <davide> then type sudo make install
[12:45] <davide> and type your password
[12:45] <nandemonai> theking_2100, it wont work unless u have gcc and make installed which is not the default
[12:45] <theking_2100> ah
[12:45] <theking_2100> thats why
[12:46] <nandemonai> theking_2100, unless u already have u need to sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:47] <theking_2100> nandemonai ok thx
[12:47] <nandemonai> np
[12:47] <nandemonai> unless u have to I wouldnt suggest building anything on ubuntu.. thats what the apt repos are for
[12:48] <nandemonai> that being said I did get rtorrent compiled and installed today on ubuntu64
[12:48] <nandemonai> As it isnt in the repos for breezy only dapper..
[12:49] <malte> does tome work for anyone here? i get "tome: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libXaw.so.6: undefined symbol: xawPrintShellWidgetClass" when trying to run it, installed from apt-get
[12:49] <malte> it's version 2.3.1
[12:50] <theking_2100> nandemonai what i should do now ? it says no rule to make target 'install'
[12:50] <nandemonai> have you done a ./configure then make then sudo make install?
[12:51] <nandemonai> also check out the INSTALL file in the package dir for extra info
[12:51] <theking_2100> nandemonai no
[12:51] <nandemonai> that would be why
[12:51] <theking_2100> ok
[12:51] <nandemonai> ALWAYS read the manual first especially when messing with system stuff
[12:52] <nandemonai> else you'll be reinstalling in no time
[12:53] <theking_2100> nandemonai what i m suppose to do replace the . by what?
[12:53] <mgiles> heh.. I made the mistake of upgrading to dapper a few days ago (5 days) and now I have no ETH0, when I d a dmesg I get "eth0: VIA Rhine II and eth0: MII PHY found at address ...  any idea's on how I can get this thing back on the network?
[12:53] <nandemonai> theking_2100, read both the INSTALL and README
[12:53] <nm> mgiles: what sort of output do you get from ifconfig
[12:54] <mgiles> nothing but lo
[12:54] <nm> :/
[12:54] <nm> rough
[12:54] <nandemonai> ifconfig -a
[12:54] <nandemonai> ?
[12:55] <mgiles> nandemonai, ahh that is interesting I get an "eth0_clas
[12:55] <mgiles> nandemonai, "eth0_clas"
[12:55] <nandemonai> very odd
[12:55] <pescez> hola guys
[12:55] <pescez> what does it mean the smp extension for the kernel?
[12:55] <nm> pescez: SMP is for multiple processors
[12:56] <nm> or dual cores, hyperthreading, etc..
[12:56] <highvoltage> and for CPU's that support hyperthreadig
[12:56] <nm> if you have such a setup, enable it
[12:56] <nandemonai> mgiles, that basically shows all interfaces even if down, dont know how to help you though
[12:56] <luite> I used to have hardware accelerated opengl using xorg-driver-fglrx, but I disabled it a while ago because of some problems. I've installed it again to see if it is better now, but opengl is still done with mesa. the fglrx driver is used in xorg.conf. how can I enable it again for opengl?
[12:56] <mgiles> bugger
[12:57] <theking_2100> nandemonai where are the installed package , in wich folder?
[12:57] <nm> mgiles: can you pastebin your ifconfig -a output
[12:57] <mgiles> nm, umm no network connection... how would I do that?
[12:57] <nandemonai> theking_2100, its not installed if you havnt even configured it.. where ever you unziped the archive is where it will be
[12:57] <nm> mgiles: how are you on irc now?
[12:58] <nandemonai> diff machine im betting
[12:58] <theking_2100> ok
[12:58] <mgiles> nm, on a seperate laptop
[12:58] <nm> well, write the info down
[12:58] <nm> or...start messing around with different kernel modules
[12:58] <Unicorn_Giggles> how can I assign Super_R + L to perform the Lock Screen command? Keyboard shortcuts wont accept Super_R + anything else
[12:58] <nandemonai> or use a usb stick if ur ultra lazy like me
[12:58] <elkbuntu> or put it in a txt file and burn it to cd
[12:59] <pescez> i got a simple desktop machine with an amd athlon processor, do i need smp?
[12:59] <elkbuntu> or on a floppy if those still exist
[12:59] <nm> pescez: no
[12:59] <pescez> nm, thanks ;)
[12:59] <mgiles> nandemonai, didn't think of that.. I've got an old 8 meg usb key.. whats the url to the pastebin?
[12:59] <nandemonai> a while cd for one txt file?
[12:59] <elkbuntu> pastebin.com or...
[01:00] <elkbuntu> !pastebin
[01:00] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:00] <nandemonai> pastebin.com
[01:00] <nandemonai> I gtg seeya round ppl
[01:01] <mgiles> !pastebin
[01:01] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:01] <nandemonai> I love you ubotu
[01:01] <virus> is there an expert mode for the ubuntu installer that works just like the good'ol debian installer?
[01:02] <virus> 'expert' is just a bit too noisy
[01:02] <ablomen> virus: yah just enter expert
[01:02] <ablomen> thats the installer i know of debian
[01:02] <mgiles> nm nandemonai : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d9114
[01:02] <nandemonai> sry mgiles I outta here gl
[01:03] <Billy> hi, what is the difference between dvd release and ordinary cd release of ubuntu?
[01:03] <virus> ablomen, i don't remember it being THAT noisy. But maybe the newest installer of debian is really just the same.
[01:03] <mjr> Billy, mostly that both Gnome and KDE fit on the same disk (plus perhaps some other nonessential stuff, not sure)
[01:04] <nm> mgiles: try ifconfig eth0_clas up <ip>
[01:04] <ablomen> virus: i think so, but why not use the normal installer?
[01:04] <virus> The last time I installed debian was with the 3.1 net install cd
[01:04] <nm> and then ping that ip
[01:04] <iBalo> What's the best allround filesystem to use for ubuntu (reiser? xfs?, certainly not ext3)
[01:04] <virus> ablomen, I'd like to specify my IP address instead of using my DHCP, specify a domain name during boot time, etc.
[01:04] <nm> ibalo: ext3 or reiserfs
[01:04] <virus> s/boot time/install time/
[01:04] <decaf> iBalo: depends on your needs.
[01:05] <virus> I'm just not that lazy to let the ubuntu installer decide all for me. :P
[01:05] <nm> virus: edit /etc/network/interfaces, and change 'dhcp' to 'static' for the interface in question, and then add gateway, netmask, and address lines
[01:05] <ablomen> virus: theres a option for that... when the cd bootloader starts try the F* buttions
[01:05] <iBalo> No particular needs, just standard office/mail/web stuff. ext3 is too slow, anybody using xfs?
[01:05] <mgiles> nm, I get eth0_clas: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device   SIOCSIFADDR: no such device
[01:05] <virus> nm,  I know how the interfaces file works. I guess I just don't like the newest debian installer *sigh*
[01:06] <nm> mgiles: problem with the driver
[01:06] <nm> <- not so hot on trying to 'support' dapper
[01:06] <virus> Anyways - usualy you don't install your system every day. ;)
[01:06] <nm> until it's officially released
[01:06] <nm> virus: i don't use debian myself, and i don't recommend anyone else does either
[01:06] <nm> virus: :P
[01:06] <decaf> iBalo: reiserfs is faster then ext3 and it's best for small files (code?). xfs is great for very big storage. reiserfs can shrink, xfs cannot.
[01:07] <virus> nm, I use debian for client and servers - just gave ubuntu a shot as I wanted to see how they're doing. :)
[01:07] <iBalo> ahh, good point. So is XFS _expandable_ ?
[01:07] <Billy> thanks mjr
[01:07] <paperboy> what about aegis anti-virus?
[01:07] <mgiles> nm, :-/ I wish I could just force an upgrade/reload from the lates CD image..  that might fix it..
[01:07] <Unicorn_Giggles> what is the command to lock the screen?
[01:07] <virus> nm, and it's really nice I must say.
[01:07] <ZyntaxError> Can anyone explain the "tree command"? Dont really know what to google for.. just get the map tree allt the time.. plz?
[01:08] <nm> virus: it's decent so far, yeah, i'm using it as a terminal server
[01:08] <decaf> iBalo: all four filesystems can grow, online (mounted)
[01:08] <iBalo> thx for the info... I think i'm going to try a flight4 install on xfs, just for curiosity
[01:09] <virus> nm, I've been playing with lots of distributions in the past and the ones that really rocked on thet rocky way were Crux and Debian (of course also Ubuntu as a debian based distro)
[01:09] <decaf> iBalo: take a look at LVM also.
[01:09] <nm> virus: i'm more of a gentoo fan
[01:09] <virus> nm, even Gentoo - the killer distro as some ppl say - just sucked. The package manager is just crap. Burried my system twice - without even using a single unstable package.
[01:10] <virus> Probably they fixed that - but I still got a bad feeling when hearing the name gentoo. :-/
[01:10] <nm> virus: i've heard people say that, they usually just weren't doing things right, sorry to say ;)
[01:10] <ablomen> lol i have to agree with virus, i just tried to install gentoo again yesterday but its just impossible ;P
[01:10] <nm> hehe
[01:11] <nm> i've done it so many times i don't need to read the install guide
[01:11] <ablomen> iv got to installing gnome but after that it just exploded
[01:11] <virus> nm, when gentoo works it's fine - but if anything is broken you're pretty up to you. The support channels are full of script kiddies trying to play CS on their box ... no serious discussion possible
[01:11] <nm> ablomen: i wouldn't recommend using gentoo if you're installing xorg, gnome, etc.., i have used it as a desktop, but i mostly use linux for servers
[01:11] <virus> nm,  anyways - the documentation of gentoo rocks
[01:12] <decaf> I want to put a symlink to a library (.so) how can I set this link as a part of library's package, so I can remove it with package later?
[01:12] <Billy> ne1 here installed a winmodem?
[01:12] <virus> nm, I guess I'll give gentoo a try in a few months - maybe until then they got a solid package manager up and running that doesn't break the whole system on every occasion. ;)
[01:12] <ablomen> nm, whell for servers i just love debian, apt-get does it fast ;)
[01:13] <nm> i use CLI-only for servers, i think that's why we've had different experiences with it
[01:13] <nm> heh
[01:13] <robbie_> will debian unstable packages install in ubuntu?
[01:14] <ablomen> robbie_: some will, if the dependecies are good
[01:14] <virus> robbie_, they will - if you are to accept lots of dependency problems. :)
[01:14] <Billy> ne1 here installed a winmodem?
[01:14] <decaf> robbie_: you can get sources and build them. this mostly works. debian packages comes with easy build scripts
[01:14] <virus> robbie_, some packages work fine (like java-package) some others won't intstall and/or work properly.
[01:15] <ablomen> Billy: try googling on linmodem
[01:15] <mgiles> is there a good irc channel for dapper support?
[01:15] <Billy> i did im havin pppoe problems
[01:16] <nm> mgiles: #ubuntu+1 perhaps, i havn't gone there
[01:16] <ablomen> Billy: buy a router, saves you a lot of trouble :P
[01:16] <decaf> Billy: winmodems are dial-up modems
[01:16] <decaf> Billy: I think you have an adsl modem. which one?
[01:17] <ufo> how do i get rid of all that sudo shit
[01:17] <Billy> say adsl decaf
[01:17] <Billy> decaf: im on a bt usb adsl modem
[01:17] <decaf> Billy: bt ?
[01:17] <Billy> decaf: im using the eciadsl but i just cant install the .deb package dues to pppoe
[01:17] <Billy> decaf: yeah, BT, its a service provider which also provides the modem
[01:17] <stu> stick with ubuntu - I use it as my main games box. D3 Q4 UTvarious version - Cedega -Guildwars GTA all CS HL2 etc - Much better than window$
[01:18] <Billy> decaf: BT Voyager USB Modem
[01:18] <decaf> Billy: where is the .deb?
[01:18] <Billy> decaf: hold on, ill get u a direct link
[01:19] <Billy> decaf: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download/eciadsl-usermode_0.11-1_i386.deb
[01:19] <ZyntaxError> what is the command for listing only all the folders? tree -? (cant find it in --help)
[01:20] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: you can do "find / | grep /"
[01:20] <decaf> Billy: seems installed fine
[01:20] <ablomen> that lists all the folders on your system ;)
[01:20] <Billy> decaf: did u install ubuntu using dvd or cd?
[01:20] <Billy> decaf: and what version?
[01:21] <decaf> Billy: send the error message to pastebin
[01:21] <ZyntaxError> thanks but in interested in the tree command.. dont get what its alla about..
[01:21] <decaf> Billy: breezy, net install
[01:21] <Billy> decaf: pastebin?? im downloadin the ubuntu dvd installation now and gonna give that a try
[01:22] <decaf> Billy:   pastebin is for "paste". check channel topic
[01:22] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: you can look in "man tree"
[01:22] <Billy> decaf: kk hold on
[01:22] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: there you can find more than with --help
[01:23] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: i did but its 700+ lines long and i didnt even understand the basic bit
[01:23] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: i think "tree -d" is wat you want
[01:24] <Billy> decaf
[01:24] <Billy> decaf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9117
[01:25] <Billy> decaf: and i have install pppoe
[01:25] <_NaN_> how can I add a link to the gnome-terminal in the panel?
[01:27] <ablomen> _NaN_: try right-clicking on the terminal in the menu and then "add launcher to panne;"
[01:27] <LadyNikon> hey how do i apt-get the debian packages?
[01:27] <LadyNikon> to go with the ubuntu ones?
[01:27] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: i just gets "Command not found" but there is a man page for it ?
[01:27] <Billy> decaf: did u install using the dvd version?
[01:28] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: yes that that man tree thing
[01:28] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: ? i cant seam to use the command but there is a man page for it?
[01:28] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: but "tree -d " works
[01:29] <_NaN_> thanks ablomen
[01:29] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: nope
[01:29] <ablomen> _NaN_: any time
[01:29] <decaf> Billy: I installed directly from internet. and I have just 256 kbps.
[01:29] <shanonx> install question: .... if i have a 64bit computer, but its not AMD, should I get the 64bit install ISO or go with the x86 one?
[01:29] <ejofee> my vlc sub font is very uglily blurred. what can i do about it? i tried every combination of settings i could think of.
[01:29] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: try "sudo apt-get install tree" first then
[01:29] <Billy> decaf: i mean ubuntu?
[01:30] <decaf> Billy: it's possible to install debian based distros directly from internet
[01:30] <ablomen> ejofee: you can try mplayer
[01:30] <Billy> :o really
[01:30] <decaf> ubotu: tell Billy about universe
[01:30] <Billy> how do u get the connection with no OS
[01:31] <decaf> Billy: you can get a mini bootcd for example.
[01:31] <Billy> :p coool
[01:31] <decaf> Billy: add universe and multiverse repos, then try again
[01:32] <Billy> decaf: wouldnt the repos be downloaded of the net?
[01:32] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: tree is just a command for listing all the folders, files etc? right?
[01:32] <decaf> Billy: do a    "apt-get -f install"    before that
[01:32] <Billy> i did that
[01:32] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: yes
[01:32] <ejofee> ablomen: how can i use mplayer from vlc?
[01:32] <decaf> Billy: how did you connect to chat with us?
[01:32] <Billy> im on a winxp machine
[01:32] <ablomen> ejofee: not from vlc, just use mplayer
[01:34] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: thanks
[01:34] <ablomen> ejofee: mplayer has a gui frontend to (gmplayer) you can just play your movies with tha
[01:34] <decaf> Billy: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/rp-pppoe/pppoe_3.5-4ubuntu1_i386.deb
[01:34] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: np any time
[01:34] <Billy> srya bout that
[01:34] <Billy> got the link thanks
[01:35] <Billy> decaf: where can i find the .deb for build-essentials too?
[01:35] <decaf> yw Billy
[01:36] <decaf> Billy: build-essential is a task package. this means its an empty package depends on others. gcc, gpp, libc6-dev etc.
[01:36] <Billy> darn it
[01:36] <Billy> decaf: so is there no way i could get hold of it without having to route through all the fodlers
[01:37] <Billy> folders*
[01:37] <ablomen> Billy: apt-get -d build-essential?
[01:37] <Exxpert> alright.. now i got in trouble again,, was modiyfing my gnome panels and i have switched loginscreen, now the login works ok but after i have filled it in and logins, the thing tries to load the desktop and then starts loginscreen again.. can i reset desktop to default again in some way?
[01:37] <Billy> ablomen: what will that do?
[01:37] <ablomen> Billy: -d means download only
[01:38] <Billy> thats perfect :p thanks... something else i wanted to ask...
[01:38] <ablomen> Billy: but i dont know if it is what you want
[01:38] <Billy> yeah, where does it save it?
[01:38] <decaf> ablomen: he is on windows now :)
[01:38] <ejofee> ablomen: vlc has advanced playlist features, like automatically playing a segment of a movie.
[01:39] <ablomen> ejofee: yeah i know but thoes that mather on a movie?
[01:39] <ablomen> decaf: lol oops :P
[01:39] <ablomen> Billy: that only works on  a debian pc ;)
[01:39] <ablomen> Billy: debian/ubuntu
[01:39] <fish> ubuntu is free for shipping?
[01:39] <Billy> decaf: i have ubuntu on vmware
[01:40] <shanonx> if I have a 64bit intel computer, should I get the 64 bit install iso, or the regular x86 one, on the site the 64bit install has (AMD) so I didnt know if it was for both or not.
[01:40] <ablomen> fish: yeah you can just oder free cds
[01:40] <Billy> so i can download from there and put it on a flashdisk
[01:40] <Billy> (i want to install ubuntu properly on my hard drive)
[01:40] <decaf> Billy: then get packages in vmware.  /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:40] <anlong> ok
[01:40] <ejofee> ablomen: i need to make a compilation of movies which will look cool on vlc. i can alternate all sorts of sequences. vlc's playlist can do miracle things in this way, without me having to edit the .avis themselves.
[01:40] <Billy> decaf: when it comes time to install how would i install them from disk?
[01:41] <decaf> Billy: universe repo includes an eci-adsl package too. checked now.
[01:41] <fish> thx
[01:41] <ablomen> ejofee: ok than i don know
[01:41] <Billy> :o
[01:41] <anlong> speeck french
[01:41] <ejofee> (please immagine there's a comma between "movies" and "which")
[01:41] <decaf> Billy: dpkg -i <package>
[01:41] <Billy> thanks, ill have a look now
[01:41] <fish> i need linux for ubuntu or its an privat OS?
[01:41] <anlong> bye*
[01:41] <ablomen> fish: linux for ubuntu? :/
[01:42] <ablomen> fish: ubuntu is a linux flafour
[01:42] <decaf> what's a privat os?
[01:42] <decaf> fish: what's your native language? may be someone can help
[01:43] <Exxpert> decaf: you dont a clue on my problem?.. sorry to bother but you are the one most active..:-)
[01:43] <ufo> how do i change the keyboard layout
[01:44] <decaf> Exxpert: unfortunately I'm good at hardware and networks
[01:44] <Exxpert> bad luck for me..
[01:44] <Exxpert> :-)
[01:44] <ablomen> Exxpert: try running "sudo gdmsetup"
[01:45] <Exxpert> is there any chance of running that in consolemode?,, cant get into X
[01:45] <ablomen> Exxpert: ouch no sorry its a gui
[01:45] <ablomen> Exxpert: erm.. try "dpkg --reconfigure gdm"
[01:46] <decaf> Exxpert: what was the problem first?
[01:46] <Exxpert> "was modiyfing my gnome panels and i have switched loginscreen, now the login works ok but after i have filled it in and logins, the thing tries to load the desktop and then starts loginscreen again.. can i reset desktop to default again in some way?"
[01:46] <ufo> where should change the console keyboard layout?
[01:47] <Exxpert> i thnik i messed up the panels in some way..:-/
[01:47] <ablomen> Exxpert: ah did you try to change the session to gnome Failsafe or something?
[01:47] <Exxpert> same thing..:-/
[01:48] <Billy> decaf: cant find the the eciadsl package? :\
[01:48] <ablomen> Exxpert: try to remove your .gnome/.gnome2 folders in the home dir
[01:48] <Billy> decaf: tried apt-get install eciadsl, eciadsl-usermode, eci-adsl
[01:48] <GTX> If you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223
[01:49] <farous> Exposure: before doing that try creating a new account and logging into it
[01:49] <decaf> Billy: did you enable universe? as ubotu (our wonderfull bot) told you before
[01:49] <Billy> make him tell me again wud u? :p
[01:49] <decaf> ubotu: tell Billy about universe
[01:49] <Billy> decaf: thanks
[01:49] <alex_shd> hello
[01:50] <alex_shd> what's up
[01:50] <ablomen> Exxpert: look at what farous said
[01:50] <Exxpert> ablomen: could you give me the correct code to delete the whole catalog?,, im a neewbie im afraid..
[01:50] <Exxpert> or create a new user..
[01:50] <farous> Exxpert: or try using ctrl alt F1 and login using a terminal
[01:50] <[fish] > s.
[01:50] <[fish] > .
[01:51] <paperboy> f2
[01:51] <mgiles> how do I choose a different kernel at boot?
[01:51] <decaf> Exxpert: rm -rf ~/.gnom*
[01:51] <paperboy> it ctrl + alt + f2
[01:51] <ablomen> Exxpert: first try "sudo useradd -p password username" first (for making a user and then log in as that user
[01:51] <Hobbsee> mgiles: select the one you want in grub, at first boot
[01:51] <decaf> mgiles: press <ESC>
[01:51] <Billy> decaf i wouldnt be able to do this with no net connection wud ui
[01:51] <Billy> i*
[01:52] <Billy> do these packages come with the DVD version?
[01:52] <Angel_Dex> Hello
[01:52] <decaf> Billy: don't you have connection in vmware?
[01:52] <snikker> hi how can make java-sun the default jvm instead of gcj?
[01:52] <Billy> yeah decaf, but im thinkin about when i move to no connection when its installed properly
[01:52] <Angel_Dex> what can cuase a bad block on a HD?
[01:52] <roico> how can i downgrade doko's oo to the dfault oo?
[01:52] <decaf> Billy: I'm not sure, but I think all universe is included in dvd, not multiverse.
[01:53] <ablomen> Angel_Dex: old age of the hd.. forone
[01:53] <Angel_Dex> ablomen brand new 120gig well kinda new itsbeen in its box for a year or so now i just used it
[01:53] <decaf> Angel_Dex: this means your disk has not much time.
[01:54] <Billy> decaf: when u use the command -d install where is the package saved?
[01:54] <Exxpert> ablomen: cant login the new user..:-S
[01:54] <roico> how can i downgrade doko's openoffice?
[01:54] <ablomen> Angel_Dex: if you can still return it ill do that if i where you
[01:54] <SomePBXUser> Hi, I have a technical problem with the Install on an Acer TravelMate 340T (CDROM is external)
[01:54] <shanonx> ablomen: is the 64 bit install ISO only for AMD, or does that support Intel's 64 bit also?
[01:54] <Seveas> roico, download the older debs and dpkg --force-downgrade -i them
[01:54] <decaf> Billy: current directory
[01:55] <shinu> hey
[01:55] <LadyNikon> anyone getting any weird security msgs with ubuntu when trying to apt-get?
[01:55] <Angel_Dex> ablomen ok and i have a 60gig maxtor that is making hte same sounds as the 120 gig same senerio but i havent beaten it up or anything I JUST put it in and installed ubuntu
[01:55] <ablomen> Exxpert: wait a sec
[01:55] <roico> Sevas, thanks ill try
[01:55] <ConfidentiaL> When I am gonna configure Kismet, I need to fill in source=type,interface,name. I know what type of card it is, and I filled that in, but I dont know what interface to put in, or what name to put in... Can any1 help me?
[01:55] <shinu> how would i go about binding '^[[1~' to the 'home' key in zsh?
[01:55] <Billy> :o it installed finally, thanks decaf
[01:56] <decaf> LadyNikon: if you mean gpg sign warning, it happens sometimes. you can change the mirror server
[01:56] <ablomen> Exxpert: try "sudo usermod -d /home/username username" and then "mkdir /home/username"
[01:57] <alex_shd> a
[01:57] <Seveas> LadyNikon, weird security messages can indicate serious problems, please copy them to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:57] <shanonx> decaf: is the 64 bit Iso's for AMD only? or do they support Intel's 64 bit ? do you know?
[01:57] <alex_shd> anybodie speak spanish here?
[01:57] <Seveas> !es
[01:57] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:57] <alex_shd> ok
[01:57] <alex_shd> thanks
[01:58] <decaf> shanonx: amd64 iso supports both amd64 and intel em64t
[01:58] <ufo> how can i change the keymap
[01:59] <LadyNikon> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9121
[01:59] <Exxpert> ablomen: just deleted gnom* folders..
[01:59] <Exxpert> not working..
[01:59] <decaf> ufo: dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[01:59] <LadyNikon> the security part is what i get when i use apt-get or synaptic
[01:59] <ufo> decaf: thx
[02:00] <Seveas> LadyNikon, ah, just try sudo apt-get update (or the reload button in synaptic)
[02:00] <malte> does tome work for everyone here? could anyone try to install and run tome for me? :)
[02:00] <ablomen> Exxpert: i think you should start to think about backing up your pc and re-installing ubuntu
[02:00] <malte> for me there seems to be something wrong with xaw6, xawPrintShellWidgetClass isn't defined tome says
[02:00] <ConfidentiaL> Can some1 help me configure Kismet?
[02:00] <LadyNikon> Seveas: i did that before i did anything else :S
[02:00] <Exxpert> ablomen: me to;-)
[02:00] <Seveas> LadyNikon, please do again and put the complete output of it on the pastebin
[02:00] <shinu> nvm i found it :P
[02:01] <malte> just sudo apt-get install tome; tome please guys :/
[02:01] <ablomen> Exxpert: and next time dont play TO much with your gnome config :P
[02:02] <Exxpert> ablomen: just all to curius of life;-)
[02:02] <ablomen> lol
[02:02] <LadyNikon> Seveas: is there somethign used in place of mysql?
[02:02] <Seveas> LadyNikon, mysql-server / mysql-client
[02:02] <shinydan> hello all
[02:03] <damg> is there a vector editing application (output format doesnt matter) in style of macromedia flash available?
[02:03] <decaf> Seveas: can I add a file to an *installed* package and be sure it will be deleted if I remove that package?
[02:03] <mgiles> does anyone know of a way to reinstall or re-do the kernel and modules/drivers from CD  ?
[02:03] <SomePBXUser> Hi again!
[02:04] <yew_> hi
[02:04] <decaf> mgiles: fine your linux-image* package and reinstall it.   apt-get --reinstall install linux-imageXXXXX
[02:04] <Seveas> decaf, yes
[02:04] <yew_> may i know how to key in chinese word??
[02:04] <ablomen> damg: you can install flash mx on wine if you want..
[02:04] <decaf> Seveas: so, do we have a tool for this?
[02:04] <damg> ablomen: i have no flash handy that's why I'm asking :/
[02:05] <damg> ablomen: Gimp won't do it - it is graphics editing and not graphics creation
[02:05] <LadyNikon> Seveaswell it looks like im not haveing the security issue anymore
[02:05] <mgiles> decaf, ok thanks
[02:05] <ablomen> damg: lol ok well there isnt a real flash kind of thing for linux, exept for actionscript interpiters, so i guess the answer is no
[02:06] <damg> ablomen: ok thanks
[02:06] <ablomen> np
[02:06] <Seveas> decaf, add the filename to /var/lib/dpkg/$package.list
[02:06] <decaf> thanks Seveas
[02:06] <babyboy> Hello,
[02:06] <babyboy> doesnt anybody happen to know anything about "easycam2"?
[02:07] <damg> ablomen: i hope ooo draw can something ;)
[02:07] <ablomen> damg: well i know another app, wait a sec ill look it up
[02:08] <ablomen> damg: you can try "inkscape"
[02:08] <damg> ablomen: ill take a look, thank you
[02:08] <ablomen> any time
[02:09] <babyboy> i cannot find the easycam2 package, no need help installing it i just cant find it any where :(
[02:09] <ablomen> babyboy: tried google>
[02:09] <ablomen> ?
[02:09] <babyboy> yeah...
[02:09] <babyboy> wants me to change word to ezcam :S! lol
[02:09] <Billy> ablomen: when using -d install package where is the package being saved?
[02:10] <ablomen> Billy: not shure ill try to find it
[02:10] <Billy> ablomen: thanks
[02:11] <babyboy> !tell me about easycam2
[02:11] <Billy> ablomen: when using it is it apt-get -d install packagename or apt-get -d packagename?
[02:11] <decaf> Billy: right in current working directory
[02:11] <damg> ablomen: i think that's what i need, thanks
[02:11] <Billy> ablomen: as the latter isnt working
[02:11] <Billy> decaf: nothing there
[02:11] <ablomen> damg: ok good luck
[02:11] <ablomen> Billy: im not shure, theone that works ;)
[02:12] <decaf> Billy: sudo apt-get -d install <package>    works
[02:12] <Billy> weird, its not saving it to any directory
[02:12] <Billy> its installing it
[02:13] <Billy> decaf: had to use apt-get -d source package
[02:14] <ablomen> Billy:  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:14] <ablomen>               Storage area for retrieved package  files.  Configuration  Item:
[02:14] <ablomen>               Dir::Cache::Archives.
[02:14] <Billy> thanks ablomen
[02:14] <ablomen> np
[02:19] <thegladiator> fi live
[02:19] <thegladiator> oh!
[02:20] <thegladiator> durga, hi
[02:20] <thegladiator> why aint there any chat happening here ?
[02:21] <ablomen> becouse nobody is asking stuff  i guess
[02:21] <giftnudel> let's ask some silly questions
[02:21] <ablomen> lol please do
[02:21] <thegladiator> lol
[02:22] <giftnudel> why does linux erase my harddisk when I do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[02:22] <giftnudel> (disclaimer: DON'T try this at home)
[02:22] <ablomen> lol :P
[02:22] <ZyntaxError> Anyone knows what the lsusb command is all about?
[02:22] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: it lists your usb devices ;)
[02:23] <ablomen> giftnudel: dont give people any smart idears :P
[02:23] <giftnudel> oh well, most people can't do this anyway
[02:23] <frozenkernel> hi
[02:24] <ablomen> true.. for one thing becouse the sudo part is missing offcourse
[02:24] <frozenkernel> wer spricht hier deutsch
[02:24] <giftnudel> well rm -rf / is as bad as it gets (again, DON'T even try this as root)
[02:24] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: is 2 pipes like >> dose it mean to add something? not just write over?
[02:24] <IdleOne> !de
[02:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:24] <ablomen> frozenkernel: this is a english chatbox ;)
[02:24] <jordo23> Does Ubuntu endorse any particular web browser?
[02:24] <frozenkernel> i have got a question, my ubuntu says it has boot difficulties, so i want to copy my data to another partition on another harddrive
[02:24] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: i honestly dont know
[02:25] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: dw, thanks anyway
[02:25] <IdleOne> jordo23:  free web browser but alot of ppl seem to like firefox 1.5
[02:25] <frozenkernel> i have read already an article in the german ubuntuusers.de community
[02:25] <Unity> ablomen: that should append output to the specified file
[02:25] <thegladiator> i like firefox as well , 1.5 it
[02:25] <thegladiator> i.e
[02:25] <frozenkernel> but i know i have to do that with a live distro from ubuntu  sudo fdisk -l
[02:26] <ablomen> atleast in perl it would i know, but i didnt know for shure in shell
[02:26] <frozenkernel> then sudo /dev/hda1 /mnt
[02:26] <frozenkernel> then sudo ls /mnt
[02:26] <frozenkernel> then sudo chroot /mnt
[02:26] <giftnudel> frozenkernel, why chroot?
[02:27] <ablomen> frozenkernel: sudo /deb/hda1 /mnt doesnt do anything
[02:27] <frozenkernel> ok the only thing that i need to know where exactly on the web can i find a tutorial with pictures on how do i make a new partition from an ubuntu live distro
[02:27] <ablomen> frozenkernel: i guess you want to mount it with that, but youll need to put mount between sudo and /dev/hda1 hor that ;)
[02:28] <ablomen> frozenkernel: man fdisk
[02:28] <frozenkernel> cause my box has boot problems
[02:28] <Billy> decaf: still there
[02:28] <frozenkernel> i know the manpages
[02:29] <giftnudel> frozenkernel,  what do you want to do exactly
[02:29] <giftnudel> frozenkernel, maybe there is an easier way
[02:29] <ablomen> frozenkernel: there it tells you how to make a new partition
[02:29] <frozenkernel> copy my data from the corrupt hd to a new partition on a new hd
[02:29] <ablomen> giftnudel: i think he wants to make a backup
[02:29] <giftnudel> frozenkernel, ok, do you have basic knowledge on partitioning?
[02:29] <frozenkernel> i havent yet created a new partition on the new hd
[02:30] <frozenkernel> yes
[02:30] <frozenkernel> 83 for linux
[02:30] <giftnudel> frozenkernel, then look for cfdisk
[02:30] <frozenkernel> and ext3 or reiserfs
[02:30] <USER016315> ciao
[02:30] <giftnudel> frozenkernel, boot from a live cd (like knoppix)
[02:30] <frozenkernel> ok will do that but my ubuntu live distro is not running at the moment
[02:30] <USER016315> chi italia
[02:30] <giftnudel> frozenkernel, then do sudo cfdisk /dev/newharddrive
[02:31] <giftnudel> !it
[02:31] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:31] <frozenkernel> ok
[02:31] <ablomen> ubotu: realy saves a lot of typing :P
[02:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ablomen
[02:31] <giftnudel> frozenkernel, this is a nice program which helps you partitioning
[02:31] <ZyntaxError> Anyone knows what 2> means when using pipes?
[02:31] <frozenkernel> thanks will try it
[02:31] <frozenkernel> see u
[02:32] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, redirect std_error
[02:32] <frozenkernel> bye @ all
[02:32] <ablomen> frozenkernel: good luck
[02:32] <frozenkernel> thanks at ablomen
[02:32] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, got it or do you want more info?
[02:33] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: not realy.. can you explain a bit more please?
[02:33] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: you wher right it is for appending into a fil
[02:33] <ablomen> e
[02:33] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: i noticed.. just tryed it out =)
[02:33] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, sure: you have stdout and stderr, two streams on used for normal output, on for errormessages
[02:33] <giftnudel> one
[02:34] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, with ./program > file you direct all "normal" iutput to file
[02:34] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, with ./program 2> file2 you direct all error output to file2
[02:35] <nm> though a lot of programs just give error output on stdout
[02:35] <nm> ;/
[02:35] <giftnudel> and with ./program 2>&1 > file you direct all errors to the normal output and then everything to a file
[02:35] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: ah oh so if i type like <command> > result.txt 2> errors.txt it will print its results in result.txt and if an error accure it will be printed in errors.txt?
[02:35] <giftnudel> yes
[02:35] <giftnudel> exactly
[02:35] <ablomen> nm it does but also at the stdout
[02:35] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: thanks a lot mate
[02:36] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, oh of course assuming that the program only prints errormessages on stderr
[02:36] <giftnudel> and not on stout (like nm said)
[02:36] <giftnudel> stdout
[02:36] <rad4Christ> Good morning!
[02:37] <giftnudel> well its 2:30 pm here (at my house)
[02:37] <giftnudel> ;)
[02:37] <rad4Christ> Ahem. Then, Good morning GMT-5!
[02:37] <ablomen> lol :P
[02:37] <nm> haha
[02:37] <nm> good morning
[02:37] <rad4Christ> Thanks to this channel, and endless wikis, our main server is linux.
[02:38] <ablomen> thats always a good thing
[02:38] <Gargoyle> any good guides for setting up framebuffer console in ubuntu server install?
[02:38] <rad4Christ> But need one more bit of help. IT is EXTREMELY annoying that root has ownership over everything in the file system, and I have to chown anything I need to alter/delete.
[02:38] <rad4Christ> Is there an easy way to correct htis?
[02:39] <kleinlappies> ahoy im having some problems my laptop pc has just gone slow don't know why. under my ksysgaurd i can't see anything wrong but my processor is running at like 20%. is there a tool that i can use that can tell me what is going on. thanks oh and it is in kubuntu
[02:39] <Seveas> rad4Christ, what are you deleting?
[02:39] <ablomen> rad4Christ: only using root when you realy need it solves it ;)
[02:39] <Seveas> rad4Christ, I think you're doing some very bad things - randomly deleting files owned by root is not such a bright idea
[02:39] <hit> how to let  2 ubuntu system share one /swap ?
[02:39] <rad4Christ> Seveas, I have an external HD, and I mounted it in a ton of different places. Now I need to delete all unused folders.
[02:40] <Seveas> rad4Christ, fat32 disk?
[02:40] <rad4Christ> Seveas, it's not about deleting, as much as editing.
[02:40] <rad4Christ> No, ext2
[02:40] <Seveas> rad4Christ, chown -R it to a non-root user
[02:40] <rad4Christ> I used ext2 with the Windows driver so I can connect it to both OS's and read it.
[02:40] <ablomen> hit: are they on the same system?
[02:40] <ablomen> hit: as in pc
[02:41] <Seveas> hit, put the swap partition in both fstabs
[02:41] <rad4Christ> Seveas, I AM doing it on a per folder/file basis, but I was wondering if there was a way to change ownership on everything/bypass the need.
[02:41] <Seveas> rad4Christ, chmod -R (-R means recursive)
[02:41] <rad4Christ> Yeah, I know
[02:41] <giftnudel> rad4Christ,  maybe the sticky bits can help?
[02:41] <Seveas> sticky bit is useful too
[02:41] <rad4Christ> ?
[02:41] <stu> rad4Christ,  it is nice n secure though
[02:42] <giftnudel> rad4Christ, you can force group owner ship and umasks on the drive
[02:42] <rad4Christ> Yes, it's nice and secure, but it's annoying as heck. Everytime I need to edit a file (such as smb.conf or fstab), I need to gain/regain ownership
[02:42] <alex_shd> so
[02:42] <giftnudel> rad4Christ, wait - what is your problem?
[02:42] <nm> why not just sudo vi file.whatever
[02:43] <giftnudel> rad4Christ, sudoedit file
[02:43] <rad4Christ> Just thought there might be an easy way around that.
[02:43] <giftnudel> sudoedit is extremely nice
[02:43] <nm> rad4christ: assign a root password, and just use 'su' if you need to do abunch of stuff as root
[02:43] <linux-here> hi all,
[02:43] <giftnudel> sudo su - can also do the trick
[02:43] <giftnudel> no need for a root passwort
[02:43] <rad4Christ> Oh well, I guess I'm in a losing battle. I wanted to use the GUI to browse to files, versus sudo gedit /folder/file?
[02:43] <ablomen> rad4Christ: that kind of files realy need to be owned by root otherwise youll get wiindows style security ;)
[02:44] <hit> Seveas:  ok
[02:44] <rad4Christ> Meh. OK.
[02:44] <giftnudel> rad4Christ, you now tab - completion in the shell
[02:44] <giftnudel> I - for instance - am much faster with the console
[02:44] <rad4Christ> Well, now that I have it all up and running, it's not that big of a deal anymore...
[02:44] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: dose >&1 mean print it on the screen? lite stdout?
[02:44] <giftnudel> than to browse to the files
[02:45] <linux-here> basic dumb shell question: may not be appropriate, please bear:  how to make background task not exit when the shell exits, suppose i type xterm& inside xterm, if i close parent xterm , both closes, is there a way to retain the child(new xterm) after closing parent
[02:45] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, no, it actually means redirect (in oyur case stdout) to stdout
[02:45] <ablomen> rad4Christ: you can make a small bash script that "gksudo gedit"sa the file.. than you can just brows them and open them with that script..
[02:45] <rad4Christ> But I will say it was annoying to have to chown my second HD, then chmod -r all the files underneath so the sharing would work properly.
[02:45] <giftnudel> linux-here, nohup
[02:45] <linux-here> giftnudel: how do i specify while invoking command
[02:45] <rad4Christ> ablomen, that's a bit over my current knowledge. Although I was proud of myself when I created a daily backup script with rsync.
[02:46] <giftnudel> linux-here, don't understand what you mean - here an example: nohup exterm &
[02:46] <ablomen> rad4Christ: its the same idea, the script only needs one command
[02:46] <giftnudel> -e
[02:46] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: so if i want a result to be written out to both a file and on the screen(stdout?) i cant use <command> >file >&1 ?
[02:46] <rad4Christ> ablomen, then you use the script to open any file in gedit?
[02:46] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, no, you need 'tee' for that
[02:47] <linux-here> giftnudel: thanks i wanted where to write nohup. i gotcha .. its a shell builtin option
[02:47] <jenni> can someone help me mount my usb drive?
[02:47] <ablomen> rad4Christ: yeah just with right-click => "open with"
[02:47] <Frogzoo> linux-here: nohup shell-cmd
[02:47] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, but I don't know how to use it, just that it is there
[02:47] <jenni> it is a vfat, on /dev/sda1
[02:47] <alex_> how can I put the color in VI?
[02:47] <nathanj> i just copied a few cds to my harddrive but the perms arent right whats the best way to chmod -R it?
[02:47] <nathanj> 644?
[02:47] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: what is tree really? i tought it was a commmand just for listing of files and folders in a "tree way"?
[02:47] <jenni> I want all members of the group user to access it
[02:47] <giftnudel> alex_, as for syntax-higlighting?
[02:47] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, 'T E E'
[02:47] <giftnudel> no R
[02:48] <sittisal> guys i need some help
[02:48] <sittisal> i installed ubuntu amd64
[02:48] <rad4Christ> ablomen, I'll try it some today. One other thing.  I crashed gedit (tried to open a BIG file by accident), how do you kill processes (or see a list of active processes)?
[02:48] <sittisal> on a celeron d 336 supporting amd64
[02:48] <sittisal> ops
[02:48] <sittisal> emt64
[02:48] <alex_> giftnudel: yes
[02:48] <Frogzoo> nathanj: text files should be 444, binaries 555
[02:48] <sittisal> but when gnome start the system completely freeze
[02:48] <giftnudel> alex_, ok, quick tip: in command mode enter syntax on
[02:48] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: oh.. my bad =) whell what dose <command> > file 2> &1    mean then?
[02:48] <ablomen> rad4Christ: killing = "killall gedit" a list is "ps -ax"
[02:49] <sittisal> also live cd freeze the system
[02:49] <Frogzoo> ZyntaxError: direct stdout & stderr to file
[02:49] <sittisal> immediately after the gdm login
[02:49] <nathanj> Frogzoo: i have a dir full of videos/pics/music and all in random folders how do i chmod it? 744? 755?
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[02:49] <ZyntaxError> Frogzoo: so both the errors and the output get writen to the same file? =S
[02:50] <rad4Christ> ablomen, THanks. I found kill, but I didn't know the correct arguments. That will help alot if it happens again. Do you know if Linux will run Win Apps with a Visual Fox Pro DB?
[02:50] <nathanj> i chmod'ed it 700 so only my user can look at it
[02:50] <giftnudel> Frogzoo, the order does not matter (> file 2>&1 vs. 2>&1 >file)
[02:50] <giftnudel> Frogzoo, ^was a question
[02:50] <ablomen> rad4Christ: never heard of it sorry
[02:50] <cello_rasp> how do i tile windows in gnome?
[02:51] <Frogzoo> nathanj: bit tricky, because dirs should be 555 too..., really methinks needs a 'find' script...
[02:51] <rad4Christ> K, thanks
[02:51] <Frogzoo> giftnudel: the order matters very much
[02:51] <ablomen> np
[02:51] <colm> rad4Christ, do you want to run the foxpro .exe files or just use the data?
[02:52] <giftnudel> Frogzoo, then your interpreation of ZyntaxError's line is wrong I guess?
[02:52] <rad4Christ> colm, Right now, it hosts the files for a program with VFP DB. It requires the VFP runtimes. I was curious if I could use wine and run the app.
[02:52] <rad4Christ> More of a curiosity than anything else.
[02:52] <giftnudel> Frogzoo, I thought it was stdout to file, sterror to stdout, but no stdout on stdout
[02:52] <ablomen> rad4Christ: you can always try offcourse
[02:52] <Omiel> who from poland??
[02:53] <_jason> !pl
[02:53] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[02:53] <colm> rad4Christ, I'd say that it's likely that you can run them with wine, but You'd need to test.  If you want to begin developing afresh on linux, the likes of OpenOffice.org base can read dBase files no problem
[02:53] <rad4Christ> Well, I took the Ubuntu CD home, and I can't install wine without it. SO I will try that tomorrow.
[02:53] <rad4Christ> Ah, thanks colm and ablomen!
[02:53] <ablomen> rad4Christ: sure you can
[02:53] <pl_ice> hi
[02:54] <rad4Christ> ablomen, when I try using the syn install DB, it prompts for the CD.
[02:54] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: i was tinking that i write the output of the command in the file and then the errors on the screen(stdout)?
[02:54] <pl_ice> u guys know what's that? : no demuxer found, gxine gives me that while opening a movie ...
[02:54] <whaley> this is actually a unix question, but I presume the answer is the same for linux:  the total number of character that I can enter for one command at the prompt is cut off at about 100 and I can't finish typing out the rest of the command... is there a system variable or shell variable that would let me increase the number of characters allowed for a command?
[02:54] <ablomen> rad4Christ: ah sorry didnt read it right i tought you ment installing wine :S:P
[02:54] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, I think your command is right for what you want to do
[02:54] <giftnudel> ZyntaxError, but test it ...
[02:54] <cello_rasp> fedora's aiglx people on xgl: "We don't believe that replacing the entire X server is the right path, and that improving it incrementally is a better way to modernize it." hahahah!
[02:55] <Omiel> who tall me about ubuntu 5.10 ??
[02:55] <_jason> Omiel: just ask your question :)
[02:56] <Omiel> i can't install programs:/
[02:56] <_jason> Omiel: how are you trying to install them?
[02:56] <cello_rasp> Omiel: did you try synaptic?
[02:56] <MurraySW> hey guys
[02:56] <Omiel> i download np. kadu
[02:56] <pl_ice> whaley try putting it in a script
[02:56] <whaley> pl_ice: good idea :)
[02:56] <ZyntaxError> giftnudel: i did but i tested it whit who > file >&1   ant tought it should print the users both to the file and on the screen but it didnt.. =S
[02:56] <Omiel> and whats i do now?
[02:57] <_jason> Omiel: did you check if it was in synaptic?
[02:57] <cello_rasp> Omiel: System > Administration > Synaptic
[02:57] <pl_ice> whaley i think it depends upon shell, u'll have to do a research bout it,
[02:57] <pl_ice> change to other one
[02:57] <Omiel> i have
[02:57] <whaley> unfortunately on this machine i only have csh, ksh, and sh... no bash :(
[02:57] <whaley> i'm a linux guy being forced to use a solaris machine here at work
[02:58] <G_zErO> i installed the lastest version of ubuntu and when it boots it cant boot the gui due to a windows problem but winows is not on the hard drive
[02:58] <MurraySW> I'm an Ubuntu nooblet, just downloaded the distro yesterday installed it on my laptop as the main OS and dual booted it with XP on my mainbox ....Does anyone have any information on how to configure the laptop processor scalability / screen brightness / hdd spin etc...I can find all the files for Toshiba configuration but have no idea how to use them ...(It's a Toshiba Sattelite A65...)...
[02:58] <gimmulf> Hi, when i try to mount my other HD i just get: mount: you must specify the filesystem type   .. im using  sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1  and it has worked before
[02:58] <pl_ice> whaley u lucky then :) i have to use w98 at work :D would change for solaris :D
[02:58] <whaley> !
[02:58] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, whaley
[02:58] <_jason> gimmulf: what is the filesystem type and have you set it up in fstab?
[02:58] <whaley> good lord, i'm sorry pl_ice :)
[02:58] <G_zErO> i installed the lastest version of ubuntu and when it boots it cant boot the gui due to a windows problem but winows is not on the hard drive msg me if u know how to help me
[02:59] <RichART1> how do access the cd drive from grub> ?
[02:59] <gimmulf> _jason:  i dont have it there
[02:59] <_jason> gimmulf: what is the filesystem type?
[02:59] <gimmulf> _jason:  ext2 i think
[02:59] <sittisal> lol
[02:59] <pl_ice> MurraySW screen etc, it's ur graphic card, u have to get drivers, then for hdd speed, its hdparms, standard it's not the fastest one, but s safe one, don't bother changing that, till u learn more...
[02:59] <mustard5> G_zErO, what is this windows problem?
[02:59] <G_zErO> cant lunch xserver is it for the main gui screen
[02:59] <Linux_Kong> i cant be the only person in the world trying to use a wlan card with the zydas zd1202 chipset can i, :(
[03:00] <_jason> gimmulf: mount -t ext2 /dev/foo /mount/point
[03:00] <dturner0> with dapper, how do I access the grub menu before the kenel is booted?
[03:00] <antisocial_boris> #firefox
[03:00] <MurraySW> pl_ice: Thanks.  I'll look into the graphic card details.  When I put the "CPU Frequency" bar in my gnome bar it displays that the processor is running at 1.86GHz, it's a 3.2GHz processor.  How can I change the scalability??
[03:00] <mustard5> G_zErO, what graphics card do you have?
[03:00] <G_zErO> im using a pentium 2
[03:01] <G_zErO> dont know graphics
[03:01] <ablomen> G_zErO: try lspci
[03:01] <danbee> hi guys, i'm running 5.10 and typing 'make' yeilds 'bash: make: command not found'
[03:01] <G_zErO> wat
[03:01] <ablomen> G_zErO: there youll find the right grahics driver
[03:01] <snowblink> danbee, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:01] <danbee> i've installed gcc, gcc 4 and gcc 3 but make still doesn't seem to be there
[03:01] <Frogzoo> any ideas why my numeral 'three' key closes my terminals? - somehow it's mapped to eof ?
[03:01] <danbee> ah!  cheers snowblink
[03:01] <pl_ice> danbee install make essentials packet or something like that
[03:02] <Frogzoo> danbee: try setting CC='path to gcc'
[03:02] <cradek> danbee: so install make
[03:02] <pl_ice> MurraySW not sure :) i had 300 mhz processor ;) on my laptop...
[03:02] <_jason> danbee: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:02] <mustard5> G_zErO, do you get a command line when the error occurs?
[03:02] <G_zErO> yeah gotta login to use
[03:02] <Frogzoo> danbee: also install pkg 'build-essential
[03:02] <danbee> wow!  all those responses... thanks guys :)
[03:02] <dturner0> with dapper, how do I access the grub menu before the kenel is booted?
[03:02] <ZyntaxError> seams to be many differant opinions what the <command> > file 2>&1 dose..anyone knows for sure? i thing i will write out the output to the file and errrors on the screen.. anyone?
[03:03] <danbee> of course, it helps if i quit synaptic... :")
[03:03] <cradek> ZyntaxError: it redirects stdout and stderr to file
[03:03] <RichART1> hello? how do i access the cd drive from GRUB>
[03:03] <ablomen> dturner0: just press e in the boot menu
[03:03] <RichART1> thx
[03:03] <mustard5> G_zErO, you tried logging in?
[03:03] <G_zErO> yeah can get in
[03:03] <dturner0> ablomen: i don't even get the boot menu to edit...
[03:03] <ZyntaxError> cradek: what dose that mean?
[03:03] <Gargoyle> What's the best way to check ethernet config? Is there a dpkg-reconfigure command or do I have to edit files by hand?
[03:03] <RichART1> im trying 2 load windows xp, install rather
[03:04] <kirkwood> ZyntaxError: output to file and errors to screen: cmd 2>&1 >file
[03:04] <mustard5> G_zErO, you can run a command from there to configure you graphics
[03:04] <dturner0> ablomen: i thought any key should bring it up, but it doesn't
[03:04] <ablomen> dturner0: ? but linux does (try) to boot
[03:04] <G_zErO> how
[03:04] <cradek> kirkwood: that's wrong.
[03:04] <stiletto> good morning. i have a problem and i am trying to recover some files from a xp drive thta is unbootable, so i ran the live cd and mounted that disk and am able to see the drive and whta i need. howeer it is extremly large the files and i have another pc running ubuntu on the lan,.is there a way i can copy from the mounted drive to the other ubuntu pc?
[03:04] <pl_ice> kirkwood so what's &1 does?
[03:04] <cradek> kirkwood: stdout to file, errors to screen: program >file
[03:04] <dturner0> ablomen: oh it does boot just fine, i want to try a xen kernel and I just want to confirm that I can change the booted kernel first... but I can't work it out...
[03:04] <mustard5> G_zErO, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   when it asks about graphics drivers..choose 'vesa'
[03:05] <stiletto> can i access the mounted drive from the lan?
[03:05] <kirkwood> cradek: I took it to mean output to file, stderr to stdout
[03:05] <mustard5> G_zErO, choose the default answers for any questions you are not sure about when the dialog starts
[03:05] <cradek> kirkwood: read man sh
[03:05] <ablomen> dturner0: try looking in the /boot/grub/grub.conf file if the timeout is set to 0 or somethinh
[03:05] <omiel> how to install kadu?
[03:05] <kirkwood> cradek:  and, it depends on the redirection rules of the shell he's using, which he hasn't told us
[03:05] <cradek> kirkwood: assuming sh/bash of course
[03:05] <pl_ice> omiel :)
[03:05] <ZyntaxError> cradek: can you please explain what you mean? what do you think it dose?
[03:05] <omiel> how to install program's?
[03:05] <pl_ice> kadu is already in the respo
[03:06] <dturner0> ablomen: timeout 5, i increased from 3 in case i was being slow
[03:06] <mustard5> G_zErO, when its finished you should be able to type  ...startx
[03:06] <petaruwaru> how do you get Opera to install? I've followed the guide in the wiki, but it doesn't work
[03:06] <MurraySW> Anyone mind fielding a few novice questions in private chat, maybe share a few Linux resources for a new user?  Thanks...message me...
[03:06] <_jason> omiel: what does the file look like you have now?  tar.gz?
[03:06] <dturner0> ablomen: and it's menu.lst should I create a symlink to grub.conf ?
[03:06] <pl_ice> omiel in System> Synaptic, then search for kadu, and its modules, works for me ;)
[03:06] <ablomen> dturner0: sorry that was my mistake
[03:06] <Gargoyle> where does the directory of modules live again?
[03:06] <omiel> tar.gz
[03:06] <_jason> !find kadu
[03:07] <petaruwaru> I still get an unmet dependency message
[03:07] <dturner0> ablomen: perhaps a display driver problem?  is that a configurable option?
[03:07] <_jason> pl_ice: what repository gives you kadu?
[03:07] <ablomen> dturner0: any other options that may suggest to skip the grub menu?
[03:07] <pl_ice> omiel u don't want to compile kadu do u? it's quite hard ;)
[03:07] <stiletto> what was the lagetst population even in this channel?
[03:07] <stiletto> largest
[03:07] <pl_ice> www.kadu.net then get the respo from there
[03:07] <ablomen> dturner0: that could be it, do you have a grapic grub?
[03:07] <rad4Christ> What does the Stiky flag do?
[03:08] <rad4Christ> Keep the ownership and chmod settings on reboot?
[03:08] <omiel> i have kadu-0.4.3.tar.bz2
[03:08] <dturner0> ablomen: yeah, the ubuntu logo comes up with the graphic mode text scrolling up below
[03:08] <_jason> omiel: do you understand? http://kadu.net/wiki/index.php/Pobierz:Ubuntu
[03:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'kadu' returned no results.
[03:08] <ablomen> dturner0: no that isnt grub thats the kernel booting
[03:08] <omiel> ok
[03:08] <dturner0> ablomen: then maybe I'm not getting anything from grub
[03:08] <ablomen> dturner0: maybe you should check the #grub channel or grub faq
[03:08] <dturner0> ablomen: i have hiddenmenu commented out
[03:09] <RichART1> i still cant access my cd drive
[03:09] <MurraySW> Ok since no one seems to want to answer my novice questions privately, looks like it's time to embarras myself publicly....The .tar.bz2 extension is extractable/installable through what command?  What are some good resources for learning and putting to use linux bash commands ie: Is there a dictionary website or a good tutorial page?  Thanks....
[03:09] <dturner0> ablomen: ok, i'll do that.  just wanted to check it wasn't an ubuntu specific first
[03:09] <ablomen> dturner0: you can try to uncomment that and change yes to no
[03:09] <dturner0> ablomen: cheers
[03:09] <ablomen> dturner0: lol good luck
[03:09] <cradek> hmm
[03:10] <stiletto> the problem with this is it is waly to unixy and it is not user friendly, it will never be more than a hobby. i give up. good luck. bye
[03:10] <rad4Christ> ablomen, is the Sticky Flag used for retaining chmod settings after reboot.
[03:10] <_jason> MurraySW: tar xjvf file.tar.bz2, will extract it.  The bot will send you some info on cli and a link to the rute book for when you are bored :)
[03:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell MurraySW about cli
[03:10] <stu> richArt, whats the problem with the CDROM
[03:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell MurraySW about rute
[03:10] <ablomen> rad4Christ: ?
[03:10] <petaruwaru> anyone know how I can get Opera to install? I followed the wiki, but I'm still getting dependancy problems
[03:10] <kirkwood> pl_ice:  the &1 is a reference to file descriptor 1 (stdout), distinguishing it from some file named "1"
[03:10] <_jason> MurraySW: what are you trying to install?
[03:10] <RichART1> stu: i wanna access it so i that i can load xp pro back on my puter
[03:11] <omiel> pl_ice powiesz mi krok po kroku jak zainstalowac jakis program na ubuntu 5.10??
[03:11] <MurraySW> Just EasyUbuntu
[03:11] <RichART1> the cd drive actually
[03:11] <MurraySW> So I can easily get my ATI drivers on here...
[03:11] <ablomen> !pl
[03:11] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[03:11] <pl_ice> omiel yes, but pm me,or people will get annoyed that u don't speak english ;)
[03:11] <rad4Christ> ablomen, when chmoding, and when in the file permissions, I see a Sticky options.
[03:11] <irv10tz> hey guys! what acrobat reader can i use with linux???
[03:11] <rad4Christ> ablomen, I was wondering whaty it was for.
[03:12] <ablomen> rad4Christ: dunno, maybe someone else does
[03:12] <RichART1> stu: and thx for answering my question too
[03:12] <snowblink> irv10tz, evince
[03:12] <_jason> MurraySW: then just run that command above to extract it and then do 'gksudo ./easyubuntu.py' in the directory it creates
[03:12] <rad4Christ> So, someone else. What is the Sticky option in the file permissions for?
[03:12] <antisocial_boris> can anyone help me make firefox find rhythmbox so foxytunes will work?
[03:13] <Frogzoo> irv10tz: you can get reader 7.0 from the seveas repos
[03:13] <omiel> i have linux ok 2 hour and i can't nothing
[03:13] <petaruwaru> anyone know how I can get Opera (the browser) to install? I followed the wiki, but I'm still getting dependancy problems
[03:13] <snowblink> rad4Christ, man chmod
[03:13] <rad4Christ> !chmod
[03:13] <ubotu> hmm... chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[03:13] <giftnudel> rad4Christ, ok, read that up in the net
[03:13] <Frogzoo> !ie6
[03:13] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Frogzoo
[03:14] <Frogzoo> anyone know how to get ie6 installed under wine?
[03:14] <rad4Christ> I will, thanks
[03:14] <_jason> omiel: I think that page tells you exactly what to do, http://www.kadu.net/wiki/index.php/Pobierz:Ubuntu, which part is confusing?
[03:14] <ablomen> Frogzoo: use winetools
[03:14] <giftnudel> rad4Christ, this is too complicated to summarize now without making at least 3 mistakes
[03:14] <petaruwaru> ...anyone?
[03:14] <xiaoyu> are there any one use LaTeX
[03:14] <neosc> Hello guys.. i have 3 ntfs partitions that have all my music collection... my problem is i cannot access the through the normal user.. i get the "no access allowed" error... I can browse the partisions if i login as root in terminal and running natulius... How do i set the partitions to be available to all the users..i.e, not restricted to root alone???
[03:14] <pl_ice> Frogzoo one guy did it in ubuntuforums.org, i remember reading bout it
[03:14] <xiaoyu> i have get a problem
[03:14] <decaf> Frogzoo: I tried, no luck. crossover can do this if you pay, but works too slow
[03:15] <giftnudel> Frogzoo, it works  - but I don't need it
[03:15] <ablomen> winetools installs ie6 for you, just a few clicks and your done
[03:15] <montxo> anyone know how mount an usb pen drive using ubuntu for MAC
[03:15] <xiaoyu> _jason: are you hare
[03:15] <G_zErO> wats the best memory should i use for my graphics
[03:15] <petaruwaru> anyone know how I can get Opera (the browser) to install? I followed the wiki, but I'm still getting dependancy problems
[03:15] <_jason> xiaoyu: yes
[03:15] <giftnudel> neosc, you need to look in to the uid and guid options in /etc/fstab
[03:15] <mustard5> G_zErO, just go with the default setting
[03:16] <G_zErO> there isnt one
[03:16] <xiaoyu> _jason: do you know how to type a vector in TeX
[03:16] <Frogzoo> giftnudel: I don't need it either but I think some of the dlls will come in handy
[03:16] <neosc> giftnudel : are there simple GUI that i can use to set the options??
[03:16] <mustard5> G_zErO, what does the text say to do?
[03:16] <neosc> links perhaps
[03:16] <giftnudel> neosc, I don't think so
[03:16] <Frogzoo> ablomen: thx for that - off 2 synaptic now
[03:16] <neosc> hmm ok.. what do i set in uid and guid options in /etc/fstab
[03:16] <neosc> ?
[03:16] <G_zErO> enter the amount of memory in kb for graphics card
[03:16] <_jason> xiaoyu: I just type them as matrices with one column
[03:16] <name> _jason: how can i gain permission to open hda1?
[03:17] <giftnudel> neosc, look for "mounting windows drives in linux" in google
[03:17] <xiaoyu> _jason: that a char with a arrow above
[03:17] <mustard5> G_zErO, if you don't know the answer don't change it
[03:17] <ablomen> Frogzoo: np good luck
[03:17] <G_zErO> k
[03:17] <mustard5> G_zErO, you can always run it again
[03:17] <giftnudel> neosc, I don't have windows here, so I don't know it by heart
[03:17] <neosc> giftnudal : I dont have problems accessing them thru root...
[03:17] <mustard5> G_zErO, you can keep running it till something works :)
[03:17] <neosc> but not by normal user
[03:17] <petaruwaru> anyone know how I can get Opera (the browser) to install? I followed the wiki, but I'm still getting dependancy problems, it says I'm missing "libqt3-mt" and "libqt3c102-mt".
[03:17] <giftnudel> neosc, oh, I know your problem and there is an easy solution for that
[03:17] <neosc> yes?
[03:17] <_jason> xiaoyu: search here, I don't know offhand http://tex.loria.fr/general/downes-short-math-guide.pdf
[03:18] <petaruwaru> do I just need to get those, and if so, how?
[03:18] <giftnudel> petaruwaru, apt-get install libqt3-mt libqt3c102-mt
[03:18] <mustard5> G_zErO, 'vesa' drivers should get you going though
[03:18] <GTX> If you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223
[03:18] <giftnudel> petaruwaru, maybe a sudo before ;)
[03:18] <mustard5> G_zErO, I suspect you have an ATI graphics card
[03:19] <_jason> xiaoyu: \vec{x}
[03:19] <renlore> hi how can i install w32codecs? which repository do i need to add to my source.list? thks
[03:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell renlore about w32codecs
[03:19] <giftnudel> neosc, ok, no guarrantee but try adding uid=<yourid>,guid=<your_guid> to the options in /etc/fstab
[03:19] <renlore> lol :)
[03:19] <ricardo_> oi
[03:20] <neosc> hmm.. my id asin my username?
[03:20] <neosc> and guid?
[03:20] <neosc> i installed linus a few days back
[03:20] <pl_ice> guys, anyones box is unstable? my shuts down randomly NO logs left, programs start while i press other things, and quite few things crashses, i haven't installed any unusuall packages...
[03:20] <G_zErO> how do u reboot the computer via command line
[03:20] <giftnudel> neosc, no your id as in 'id' (type that in a shell)
[03:20] <renlore> reboot :)
[03:20] <neosc> havnt really palyed around so dont know the lingo
[03:20] <mustard5> G_zErO, just type startx when you finish
[03:20] <G_zErO> k
[03:20] <omiel> WHO SPEAK POLISH??
[03:20] <pl_ice> omiel ;)
[03:21] <giftnudel> neosc, no problem, type id in a shell, then uid=uid, guid =gid
[03:21] <mustard5> G_zErO, you get an error message?
[03:21] <omiel> tak??
[03:21] <ablomen> !pl
[03:21] <giftnudel> !pl
[03:21] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[03:21] <neosc> okthanks...
[03:21] <giftnudel> ablomen, ;)
[03:21] <omiel> mam takie pytanko
[03:21] <ablomen> lol ubotu said you where first :P
[03:21] <pl_ice> sorry guys, omiel chwilka, wejdz do pokoju : testme ja tam jestem
[03:21] <omiel> bo zainstalowalem 5.10
[03:21] <pisarz_> omiel: #ubuntu.pl
[03:22] <giftnudel> this is my internet connection - it's so slow that it's fast again
[03:22] <petaruwaru> giftnudel: I tried what you said, it says "package libqt3 is not available, but is referred to by another package." and "package libqt3-mt has no instilation candidate"
[03:22] <renlore> when i try to install w32codec via  dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb, i get this : cannot access archive: No such file or director
[03:22] <ablomen> lol
[03:22] <giftnudel> petaruwaru, hmm, that's odd
[03:22] <giftnudel> renlore, download it first
[03:22] <_jason> petaruwaru: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:22] <renlore> nod
[03:23] <petaruwaru> _jason: ....ok
[03:23] <JLTorrente> how can i check the current installed version of Xorg?
[03:23] <MurraySW> When configuring the drivers for my ATI Mobile 7000 chip in my laptop, it asks me to specify the ammount of memory to be used by my video card (in KB) ...The system has 512MB RAM and a 60GB HDD (30GB WIN 30GB UBUNTU) ....Does anyone have any suggestions or reccomendations for this?
[03:23] <_jason> petaruwaru: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg
[03:23] <renlore> <-- feels silly
[03:23] <pl_ice> xorg -version
[03:23] <mustard5> MurraySW, choose the default value..if no value is shown..just hit enter and move on
[03:23] <giftnudel> renlore, you have all reasons to do so ;)
[03:23] <pl_ice> * Xorg -version
[03:24] <beerockxs> I'm having problems getting DRI to work with my Voodoo3.
[03:24] <_jason> petaruwaru: pl_ice's way is nicer :)
[03:24] <MurraySW> mustard5, Thanks.  I'm leaving it blank and pressing onward!!
[03:24] <Gargoyle> I am looking for a thin console font, I think possibly the one used by default on gentoo
[03:24] <Gargoyle> anyone know the name?
[03:24] <beerockxs> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[03:24] <beerockxs>  says it can't find tdfx_dri.so. it looks like it's looking in the wrong directory
[03:24] <pl_ice> MurraySW it's asking u bout the ram on ur ATI drive not the pc ones
[03:24] <xiaoyu> _jason: ths
[03:25] <beerockxs> it looks for /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri//tdfx_dri.so, I have the file in /usr/lib/dri
[03:25] <petaruwaru> _jason: just paste the whole text?
[03:25] <_jason> petaruwaru: yes at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:26] <holobyted> how do I configure alt to be used for special characters? (ie, ALT+64 = @ and the like)
[03:26] <JLTorrente> thx
[03:26] <MurraySW> pl_ice, Yes, but I'm aware that the card can share memory use....
[03:26] <_jason> holobyted: system > prefs > keyboard, look for the 'compose key' option
[03:27] <holobyted> figures, didn't know what that meant. thanks
[03:27] <JLTorrente> can i install xgl with an intel 900 graphic card?
[03:27] <petaruwaru> _jason: alright, posted it
[03:27] <Protocol1> !mplayer
[03:27] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:27] <_jason> petaruwaru: link?
[03:27] <dturner0> ablomen: found the grub problem, it WAS a graphics problem.  I commented out the splash image and the menu appeared.
[03:28] <petaruwaru> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9124
[03:28] <ablomen> dturner0: ah thats great, text still seems to be the best ;)
[03:28] <dturner0> ablomen: this is a ThinkPad T22 in case you get the same question at some point
[03:29] <ablomen> lol ik thanks for the info :)
[03:29] <matyy> hi
[03:29] <_jason> holobyted: oops I was wrong.... I think it's ctrl+shift and I don't know how to change it :) compose is so you can compose accent with a and so on
[03:29] <holobyted> oh
[03:29] <xiaoyu> _jason: where are now ,don't you sleep?
[03:29] <matyy> does someone know how to deactivate or change the shortcut to restart the x-server?
[03:29] <dturner0> ablomen: vga card is S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 13)
[03:29] <_jason> xiaoyu: nope
[03:29] <pl_ice> MurraySW u sure? can't see it in ATI specitifations...
[03:29] <matyy> I installed dapper drake and the shortcut is shift+backspace
[03:29] <ablomen> dturner0: lol ok im not going to remember that ;)
[03:30] <beerockxs> I'm having problems getting DRI to work with my Voodoo3. LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo says it can't find tdfx_dri.so. it looks like it's looking in the wrong directory
[03:30] <matyy> and I hit it way to oftan :)
[03:30] <holobyted> ctrl+shift gives me different characters than the usual alt combinations :|
[03:30] <_jason> petaruwaru: do you use ubuntu with the cd in the drive?
[03:30] <babyboy> can anyone help me out please
[03:30] <petaruwaru> _jason: no
[03:31] <neosc> i cant seem to install applictaions.. the .deb type... i downloaded a few .deb's from packages.ubuntu.com elsewhere.. which program/command do i use to install these??
[03:31] <ablomen> babyboy: just tell us your question and if someone knows the answer hell tell you ;)
[03:31] <MurraySW> pl_Ice, It's cool.  I just left it blank - hopefully everything went fine.  If it didn't I'll be back.  I'm not looking to run any graphically intense games, although I am curious to see how well Diablo II will run under Wine
[03:31] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  I'm using NVIDIA twinview in breezy and need to make my panels show up on the other monitor instead of the one their currently on.  Any ideas?
[03:31] <beerockxs> MurraySW, Diablo II should run fine.
[03:31] <_jason> petaruwaru: then comment that first line that has the cd in it and uncomment all of the other lines that start with ``deb'' then do 'sudo apt-get update' and try installing again
[03:32] <MurraySW> beerockxs, Sexy :D
[03:32] <Frogzoo> neosc: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[03:32] <pl_ice> MurraySW i gave up playing games :) have fun
[03:32] <JLTorrente> can i install xgl with an intel 900 graphic card?
[03:32] <beerockxs> anyone know stuff about DRI?
[03:32] <babyboy> i am tryin to install my webcam webmessenger qucikcam i installed many thing like cmorama and all that and tried driver linux doesnt seem to detect it at all...
[03:32] <babyboy> its plugged it
[03:32] <babyboy> in
[03:32] <xiaoyu> _jason: i mean which country, what's the time now
[03:32] <_jason> xiaoyu: 9:30AM
[03:32] <snowblink> matyy, this might help you http://ubuntuguide.org/#disablectrlaltbackspacegnome
[03:32] <Unity> i am running ubuntu as a desktop, meaning i turn it on every morning and it takes a while; is there anything i can do to make it start up faster?
[03:32] <matyy> thanks snowblink
[03:33] <Unity> like, what can i take out of init.d?
[03:33] <MurraySW> Anyone have the time to explain the ins and outs of Wine?  I have it installed, still have to configure it and figure it out ....are there any extremely novice/user friendly guides out there for using and configuring Wine?  A kick in the right direction would be appreciated again :)  (gogo ubotu)
[03:33] <Frogzoo> Unity: consider suspend to ram or disk
[03:33] <_jason> holobyted: hrmm, I know that those conform to what you see in the character map, not sure how to get it to do ascii.  Maybe it only works if you set your locale to use ascii instead of utf8, but I don't know much about it
[03:34] <Unity> Frogzoo: how can i do that?
[03:34] <Frogzoo> MurraySW: I've had problems with the stock wine - there is an updated repo available @ deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[03:34] <ablomen> MurraySW: check out the wine site
[03:35] <MurraySW> Will do Frogzoo/Ablomen.  The install I currently have was installed by Automatix...should it not be the updated repo?  Or would it have been the stock wine?
[03:35] <Frogzoo> Unity: depends if your bios supports it, but you also need to edit /etc/default/acpi-support
[03:35] <petaruwaru> _jason: its set to read only, how do I turn that off?
[03:35] <_jason> petaruwaru: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:35] <_jason> petaruwaru: if you want multiverse, you can enable that now too, do you want to?
[03:35] <ablomen> MurraySW: do wine --version and youll find out if its outdated
[03:35] <trini> Hi all, anyone know how to launch a gui program from an ssh session. eg: I want to ssh into my box across the room and restart a gui monitoring program I have
[03:36] <Frogzoo> Unity: uncomment the line: ACPI_SLEEP=true
[03:36] <beerockxs> libGL is looking for my graphiccard driver in the wrong directory, how can I change that?
[03:36] <Zoroaster> Evolution sucks, does anyone know of a better client for connecting to my exchange box?
[03:36] <Dasnipa`> is there a way to restart X without logging out and back in? i get some graphics glitches on occasion when an sdl/ogl window mode exits and doesnt correctly reset the resolution
[03:36] <petaruwaru> _jason: it just gave me an error
[03:36] <Frogzoo> Zoroaster: evolution is your best bet probly
[03:37] <_jason> petaruwaru: what was that
[03:37] <kirkwood> trini:  ssh -X
[03:37] <montxo> who speak spanish
[03:37] <Zoroaster> Frogzoo, ok
[03:37] <petaruwaru> _jason: (gedit:9396): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:37] <petaruwaru> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:37] <_jason> !es
[03:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:37] <trini> kirkwood: this would give me access to the currently running Gnome session?
[03:37] <_jason> petaruwaru: that's justa  warning, should still work
[03:37] <beerockxs> libGL is looking for my graphiccard driver in the wrong directory, how can I change that?
[03:38] <kirkwood> trini: it just forwards the X connection
[03:38] <MurraySW> ablomen:  Where do I run that command from?  Do I have to navigate to the wine directory to do the command..or?
[03:38] <ikaruga2099> Hello all, just wanted to know if someone could tell me the packages that I need in order to compile source.
[03:38] <trini> kirkwood: if there is one running already right?
[03:38] <petaruwaru> _jason: well, it did open sources.list, but there's no text in it
[03:38] <mustard5> MurraySW, from the command line
[03:38] <_jason> petaruwaru: check for typos
[03:38] <_oblade> yes you need the build-essential
[03:38] <MurraySW> mustard5:  Says there is no bash command wine.
[03:38] <_oblade> you can find it in synaptics package manger
[03:39] <Frogzoo> !tell MurraySW about automatix
[03:39] <mustard5> MurraySW, you don't have wine installed?
[03:39] <MurraySW> I was pretty sure I clicked it in the Automatix installation.
[03:39] <Unity> Frogzoo: thx
[03:39] <JavaGeek> hello
[03:39] <kirkwood> trini: now you're confusing me.  You should be running an X server on the box from which you ssh, or you can't be running a gnome session.  If you ssh -X into the other box (and that box has permissions to open your X server) then clients running on the second box can so connect
[03:39] <MurraySW> I'll reinstall though to be sure, do you reccomend I just run Automatix and hit wine?  or should I search to see if it was installed first.
[03:39] <Frogzoo> MurraySW: I very much doubt automatix would be using the updated repo - but you should be able to check easily enough
[03:39] <pl_ice> !pl
[03:39] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[03:39] <Frogzoo> !automatix
[03:39] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:39] <JavaGeek> just a quick question. How do I know if a packages is installed on ubuntu?
[03:39] <antisocial_boris> is there any way i can have a workspace that is commandline only?
[03:40] <JavaGeek> or what packages are installed
[03:40] <_jason> JavaGeek: check in synaptic or do 'apt-cache policy packagename'
[03:40] <Frogzoo> antisocial_boris: check out 'screen' I'd guess
[03:40] <MurraySW> Yes I've read about the safety issues regarding Automatix, but it's the only thing thats going to easily install all of that stuff quickly without a hassle on a fresh install ....and it works just dandy off the fresh install, which is really all I'm worried about.
[03:40] <_oblade> ikaruga2099, youu need to install the bild-essential pacage
[03:40] <JavaGeek> something like 'rpm -qa | grep <package>'
[03:40] <_oblade> ikaruga2099, from synaptics package manager
[03:40] <ikaruga2099> javageek: one way to do it is to fire up synaptic manager. Packages that are installed will be cheked
[03:40] <JavaGeek> I'm on a remote ssh session
[03:41] <MurraySW> Can I install Wine through Synaptic?
[03:41] <ikaruga2099> _oblade, do you mean build-essential package?
[03:41] <pl_ice> apt-cache search package
[03:41] <_jason> JavaGeek: the use the apt-cache command above
[03:41] <mustard5> MurraySW, you can...if you want the latest you will need to change your sources.list
[03:41] <_oblade> ikaruga2099, yeap
[03:41] <beerockxs> libGL is looking for my graphiccard driver in the wrong directory, how can I change that?
[03:41] <MurraySW> How would I go about doing that?
[03:41] <petaruwaru> _jason: there doesn't seem to be any, but it when it opens it says at the bottom of the window "created file"
[03:41] <_oblade> ikaruga2099, on that package is make, gcc, libc..., etc
[03:42] <_jason> petaruwaru: can you paste the exact command you entered please, that's strange
[03:42] <JLTorrente> how do i enable 3d acceleration on an intel gma 900 card?
[03:42] <mustard5> MurraySW, I'll tell you in a second..just getting some stuff together :)
[03:42] <MurraySW> Sure, no rush :)
[03:42] <petaruwaru> _jason: gksudo 'gedit /ect/apt/sources.list'
[03:42] <Frogzoo> mustard5: methinks you mean the wine.sourceforge.net repo, yes?
[03:42] <JavaGeek> _jason: ah, that does the trick. Thanks
[03:42] <mustard5> Frogzoo, yeah
[03:43] <Frogzoo> MurraySW:, add the line 'deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/'
[03:43] <_jason> petaruwaru: do you see your typo? ``etc'' not ``ect'' :)
[03:43] <ufo> !ati
[03:43] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:43] <pl_ice> !beer
[03:43] <MurraySW> Frogzoo:  Just type that into the bash prompt?
[03:43] <petaruwaru> _jason: >.< damn, my mistake
[03:43] <rad4Christ> !creamsoda
[03:43] <ubotu> rad4Christ: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:43] <pl_ice> ;) g'night
[03:43] <mustard5> MurraySW, no
[03:43] <rad4Christ> darn
[03:44] <Frogzoo> MurraySW: just add that as a custom repo through synaptic is easiest
[03:44] <Protocol1> !water
[03:44] <ubotu> Protocol1: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:44] <Protocol1> hah
[03:44] <mustard5> MurraySW, yeah..cut and paste that line the options in Synaptic for adding a custom repository
[03:44] <Rizelda> ANY MICHAEL JACKSON FANS??????
[03:44] <mustard5> MurraySW, look under the repositories options in the menu
[03:44] <Toma-> Rizelda, i hear there are some in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:45] <_oblade> ikaruga2099, on that package is make, gcc, libc..., etc
[03:45] <Rizelda> REALLY??GREAT...WHERE???
[03:45] <jacquesmerde> is it possible to give certain commands to be processed when a specific device is (dis)connected?
[03:45] <mustard5> MurraySW, either that or you can manually edit your sources.list file with a text editor
[03:46] <JavaGeek> sim automatix isn't recommended? now you tell me :(
[03:46] <Toma-> Rizelda, join the channel. this is a help chan, #ubuntu-offtopic is a general micheal jackson fan club chan
[03:46] <MurraySW> mustard5:  When I open the repositories menu http://wine.sourceforge.net/binary is already present.  Should I still add the line you suggested?
[03:46] <trini> kirkwood: sorry about being confusing. I have two computers. one is on a big screen and the other is at my desk on the other side of the room. occasionally i would want to ssh into the big screen and run a gui program on that machine and have it display there
[03:46] <_jason> heh
[03:46] <petaruwaru> _jason: uncomment every one that starts with deb, or just the first list?
[03:46] <mustard5> MurraySW, no
[03:46] <jacquesmerde> ANY RIZELDA FANS???????????????                        (didnt think so)
[03:46] <orlandiux2003> alguen me da un manual de bash
[03:46] <orlandiux2003> por favor
[03:46] <mustard5> MurraySW, apparently its there....so do a search for wine in synaptic
[03:46] <Rizelda> how can i get there..i am new in here so i don't know
[03:47] <_jason> petaruwaru: everyone is ok, I leave the breezy-backports one commented.  Remember to comment the cd-rom one (first line)
[03:47] <MurraySW> mustard5: Will do:D
[03:47] <petaruwaru> _jason: k
[03:47] <_jason> petaruwaru: so you know, you can do this with synaptic too... I don't remember why I told you to go straight to editing the file :)
[03:48] <_jason> orlandiux2003: tldp.org search for bash
[03:48] <phreak97_> anyone got a good azureus-like bittorrent client which isnt azureus?
[03:48] <beerockxs> help, libGL is looking for my graphiccard driver in the wrong directory, how can I change that?
[03:48] <petaruwaru> _jason: its ok, I'll figure that out eventually
[03:48] <meisam> hi guys
[03:48] <petaruwaru> _jason: just hit save when I'm done?
[03:49] <mustard5> phreak97, heh..thats a strange request on the face of it :)
[03:49] <_jason> petaruwaru: yep, the do 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:49] <meisam> i have serious problem on removing my package eclipse
[03:49] <meisam> i can not remove it  from ubuntu
[03:49] <phreak97_> mustard5, why so?
[03:49] <petaruwaru> _jason: there we go
[03:49] <mustard5> phreak97, I don't know it hit my funny bone anyway :)
[03:50] <phreak97_> lol ok
[03:50] <petaruwaru> _jason: now should I try installing opera again? or do I need to get something else?
[03:50] <_jason> petaruwaru: you need those two libqt packages right?
[03:50] <MurraySW> mustard5:  I've done my search for wine and have come up with several results that seem to be viable options...do you reccomend installing xwine and wine at the same time?  Is the xwine GUI worth it?
[03:50] <petaruwaru> _jason: yea, should I run the command to get them again?
[03:50] <_jason> petaruwaru: yeah
[03:51] <mustard5> MurraySW, I believe they have a package conflict...it should be listed in the information for each package what they conflict with
[03:51] <esj> when navigating an SMB share, why does nautilus continually ask for authentication credentials even though you have satisfied them for a higher part of the tree?
[03:51] <mustard5> MurraySW, under dependencies
[03:51] <jacquesmerde> whats the newbie way of beginning to create an archive file? do i have to run fileroller from a terminal?
[03:51] <nandemonai> I use rtorrent.. it's cli but I find it to be a perfect replacement for azureus and uses very little process / memory
[03:52] <MurraySW> mustard5: Hm, your right, it won't let me mark both for installation.  So which is my best bet, just plain wine or xwine?
[03:52] <nandemonai> jacquesmerde, select files u want in achive right click add to archive
[03:52] <mustard5> MurraySW, wine
[03:52] <Protocol1> does anyone know where I can find fonts on this ubuntu 5.10?
[03:52] <Protocol1> i need to get some font section for my mplayer
[03:53] <petaruwaru> _jason: alright I think that did it, I got the file and it looks like opera unpacked normally
[03:53] <petaruwaru> _jason: thanks
[03:53] <jacquesmerde> nandemonai: good answer!
[03:53] <_jason> petaruwaru: np
[03:53] <mustard5> !tell Protocol1 about fonts
[03:53] <nandemonai> shhh dont tell anyone...
[03:54] <nandemonai> ;)
[03:54] <Gargoyle> how do I find a package?
[03:54] <syllogism> apt-cache search <pkg>
[03:54] <MurraySW> mustard5:  The command winecfg will allow me to configure wine correctly?
[03:54] <_jason> Gargoyle: search in synaptic
[03:54] <Gargoyle> command line install :)
[03:54] <mustard5> MurraySW, yep
[03:54] <mustard5> MurraySW, try to get winetools too
[03:54] <GTX> If you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223
[03:54] <jacquesmerde> Gargoyle: do it elmer fudd style
[03:55] <mustard5> MurraySW, that is really useful
[03:55] <yancheng> i try to use ssh to perform backup to remote machine, however
[03:55] <yancheng> i get -> sudo iptables -nL
[03:55] <A-L-P-H-A> Is there a way to make a linux liveCD read off a USB key for startup settings? Pop in a CD & USB key, have the system automagically mount/read/run a script on the USB key?
[03:55] <yancheng> i get -> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.3 port 22: Connection refused
[03:55] <yancheng> any idea?
[03:56] <MurraySW> mustard5:  YARRR W: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.8-winehq-1_i386.deb
[03:56] <MurraySW>   Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection
[03:56] <mustard5> MurraySW, hmm..might be a problem on there end?
[03:56] <mustard5> MurraySW, server down maybe
[03:56] <JLTorrente> how do i enable 3d acceleration on an intel gma 900 card?
[03:56] <MurraySW> Possible, I'll try again.
[03:56] <Gargoyle> OK, here's a better question. /usr/lib/python2.4 is missing, which package should I install?
[03:57] <mustard5> MurraySW, actually...try hitting reload on synaptic first
[03:57] <mustard5> MurraySW, then try again after a reload
[03:57] <Protocol1> cool i can play dvd's on my system now
[03:57] <MurraySW> Okeedokee....mustard5, winetools isn't present in synaptic...
[03:57] <mustard5> MurraySW, bummer
[03:57] <MurraySW> :(
[03:57] <orlandiux2003> no encuentro la pagina donde
[03:58] <orlandiux2003> hay un manual para manejo de archivos
[03:58] <decaf> !es
[03:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:58] <mustard5> MurraySW, sometimes winetools doesnt work with the latest wine version....I would keep an eye out for it at a later date
[03:58] <_jason> !es
[03:58] <meisam> guys hi... i can not remove one of my packages...what should ido?
[03:58] <mustard5> MurraySW, when they have winetools and wine working together at the same time..its a great tool :)
[03:59] <decaf> meisam: check channel topic, send error message to pastebin
[03:59] <mustard5> MurraySW, basically it will install a lot of the basic 'windows' stuff..like installers and fonts, Internet Explorer, Outlook, Windows media player
[03:59] <MurraySW> mustard5:  Upon hitting the reload button in synaptics I recieve the following error:
[04:00] <MurraySW> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/wine.sourceforge.net_apt_binary_Packages)
[04:00] <MurraySW> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://deb.opera.com etch/non-free Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/deb.opera.com_opera_dists_etch_non-free_binary-i386_Packages)
[04:00] <MurraySW> Any ideas?
[04:00] <mustard5> Murray ah you have it twice in your sources.list :)
[04:00] <RichART1> alright!
[04:00] <MurraySW> Doh.
[04:00] <RichART1> i'm setting up my windows xp pro again!
[04:00] <MurraySW> How do I fix it?
[04:00] <RichART1> w00t
[04:00] <mustard5> MurraySW, well see if it has two entries in synaptic
[04:00] <mustard5> MurraySW, try deleting one
[04:00] <mustard5> MurraySW, its easy enough to add back in
[04:01] <Rawplayer> \o/
[04:01] <Rawplayer> \\o
[04:01] <Rawplayer> o//
[04:01] <MurraySW> How do I delete and entry?
[04:01] <RichART1> ::syllogism:: sorry, but that's all i know @ this time & point
[04:01] <mustard5> MurraySW, I can't recall exactly...I usually manually edit the sources.list file :)
[04:01] <Dreamstar> hi guys! pls can anyone help me with my USB Headset? it looks like the system went crazy :S
[04:01] <mustard5> MurraySW, you want to do it that way?
[04:01] <MurraySW> Sure, I don't mind a little footwork.
[04:02] <mustard5> MurraySW, ok...type this in command line....   sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <meisam> decaf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9126
[04:02] <mustard5> MurraySW, should see a list of sources in a text file now..
[04:02] <MurraySW> mustard5: done
[04:02] <mustard5> MurraySW, ok..find the duplicate line and remove it :)
[04:02] <Dreamstar> any helps for me? pls!
[04:03] <Dreamstar> the system make working the headset but it doesn't work with a single application
[04:03] <MurraySW> mustard5:  I can enable multiverse and universe here by uncommenting a few lines....May as well do that while I'm here too no?
[04:03] <mustard5> MurraySW, yep
[04:03] <mustard5> MurraySW, good idea :)
[04:04] <decaf> meisam: why dont use synaptic?
[04:04] <meisam> decaf how?
[04:04] <meisam> decaf can u help me out?
[04:04] <decaf> meisam: system -> administration -> synaptica package manager
[04:05] <decaf> second time I accidently typed synaptica. isn't this name better? like apocalyptica  :)
[04:06] <Kyral> ...
[04:06] <MurraySW> mustard5:  Odd.  I don't see any glaring duplicate entries of anything.
[04:06] <mustard5> MurraySW, what I would do if I have 'unofficial' sources in my sources.list...is I would download what I want after accessing them..then I would comment them out afterwards
[04:06] <Unity> is there a video screen capturing thing for X?
[04:06] <Seveas> Unity, byzanz
[04:06] <Unity> Seveas: thx
[04:06] <mustard5> MurraySW, hmm..its sure to be in there somewhere.
[04:06] <C-O-L-T> Anything new in the ubuntu world?
[04:06] <mustard5> MurraySW, you used the pastebin before?
[04:07] <MurraySW> mustard5:  There is only one line of deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ in the sources.list file in /etc/apt.  And no, I have never used the pastebin.
[04:07] <Silivrenion> (the machine makes so much sound its like an airport)
[04:07] <thegladiator> how to swithc to spatial view?
[04:07] <thegladiator> nautilus
[04:07] <thegladiator> !spatial
[04:07] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator
[04:07] <mustard5> MurraySW, ok..is synaptic closed?
[04:08] <rohan> I'm having some probs with Gimp --- It's  not loading. It hangs at xsane and doesn't do anything. (I don't have a scanner) can anyone help??
[04:08] <mustard5> MurraySW, if not..close synaptic...save your sources.list file...then do a sudo apt-get update
[04:08] <MurraySW> mustard5:  Nevermind.  I found the duplicate.  It was hiding.
[04:08] <Silivrenion> alright
[04:08] <mustard5> MurraySW, k :)
[04:08] <Silivrenion> when booting, I get an error
[04:08] <Silivrenion> "fsck failed. please repair manually"
[04:08] <decaf> thegladiator: applications -> system tools -> configuration editor, apps -> nautilus -> preferences
[04:08] <mustard5> MurraySW, apt-get never lies..or so I have heard people say :P
[04:08] <MurraySW> Hehe
[04:09] <ttur> slt
[04:09] <ttur> ya des pros d'ubuntu ici ?
[04:09] <Silivrenion> I dont know what I need to do to fix fsck
[04:09] <Silivrenion> ?
[04:09] <mustard5> !fr
[04:09] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:09] <ttur> car pb carte son
[04:09] <ttur> oki
[04:09] <mustard5> :)
[04:10] <ttur> so i have a pb whith my sound card
[04:10] <MurraySW> mustard5:  I'm guessing the sources.list already contained the deb for Wine, however when prompted to install Wine from Automatix it must just add another entry to the sources.list and royally screw things up.  Stupid automatix.
[04:10] <jacquesmerde> anyone here now much about midi software?
[04:10] <Silivrenion> "fsck failed. please repair manually"
[04:10] <mustard5> MurraySW, yeah...its good if you have a clean install I suppose, but if you've already configured stuff...
[04:10] <Silivrenion> I dont know what I need to do to fix fsck
[04:11] <mustard5> ttur, what brand of soundcard?
[04:11] <MurraySW> mustard5:  I really don't want to do another clean install.  This is the second one on this laptop due to a botched Automatix install (Completely my fault.)
[04:11] <ttur> realtek
[04:11] <GTX> If you know stuff about eggdrops can you read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223
[04:11] <MurraySW> Heh
[04:11] <mustard5> MurraySW, :)
[04:11] <pieppi> gvh
[04:11] <ttur> I must desactivat my card to install ubuntu
[04:11] <jordo23> Where can I get the Azureus .dpkg file?
[04:12] <mustard5> MurraySW, you might want to look into how to set up your /home on a seperate partition if you ever do install again..
[04:12] <mustard5> MurraySW, works wonders for me
[04:12] <mustard5> ttur, hmmm..not good
[04:12] <rohan> ok, Gimp does start up but hangs for about 10 minutes on xsane before doing so.... has anyone got a quick fix?
[04:12] <MurraySW> mustard5, I see what you mean.  That would be useful..
[04:12] <mustard5> ttur, its sounds like a very hard sound problem to solve
[04:12] <thegladiator> decaf, it shud be check or not check to get spatial view ? no_ubuntu_spatial ?
[04:13] <Silivrenion> ---> My fsck is being fscked up!!! At bootup it gives "fsck failed. Please repair manually." and leaves me at a prompt for maintenance. I dont know what I need to do. Help!
[04:13] <ttur> yes, no good, but i think a can install it now..
[04:13] <mustard5> MurraySW, yeah..I can run the ubuntu installer in tell it to 'not format' my /home partition and do a clean install with all my personal configs in place
[04:13] <pebkac> i just upgraded to breezy, and my sblive stopped working.  anyone had this happen?
[04:13] <ttur> maybe, so i try to find help lol
[04:13] <pebkac> lspci still shows the damn thing.
[04:14] <ttur> because i without sound ==> i must keep Win.... on my computer
[04:14] <ttur> so bad
[04:14] <jordo23> Anyone know where I can download the .dpkg file for azureus?
[04:14] <meisam> decaf can i ask a question?
[04:14] <lulu> I have downloaded Firefox 1.5 files but do not know how to install it. Anyone can help??
[04:14] <thegladiator> decaf, what shud I set it to?
[04:14] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell lulu about firefox
[04:14] <mustard5> ttur, do you know the actual model name of your realtek sound device?
[04:15] <meisam> #eclipse
[04:15] <MurraySW> mustard5:  I think I may know why synaptic craps out.  I'm currently downloading a torrent on my other box on the network, phenomally slowing network speeds .....it drops to like 5000bytes / sec near the end and than just say "fuck it" and quit the download....I'll go pause the torrent and see if I can succesfuly grab Wine than...
[04:15] <ttur> not really
[04:15] <mustard5> ttur if you do then you can google around for others who have had similar problems
[04:15] <Silivrenion> ---> My fsck is being fscked up!!! At bootup it gives "fsck failed. Please repair manually." and leaves me at a prompt for maintenance. I dont know what I need to do. Help!
[04:15] <ttur> my computer is a ASUS A 6000
[04:15] <mustard5> MurraySW, k
[04:15] <thegladiator> can someone tell me in gconf editor , nautilus , shud I set the "no_ubuntu-sptail" checked or unchecked to get the desired effect  ? to get spatial look i.e
[04:15] <mustard5> Silivrenion, is it the partition your system is on?
[04:16] <jordo23> Anyone know where I can get the .dpkg file for Azureus?
[04:16] <ttur> Of course however for the moment, i dont find a real solution
[04:16] <thegladiator> jordo23, no dpkg for azureus
[04:16] <Healot> jordo23, you can download the azurues jar package from its site
[04:16] <thegladiator> is a java application
[04:16] <ttur> Oki, i will find the solution
[04:16] <mustard5> ttur, you really need the full details on your sound device
[04:16] <ttur> I must do my homework
[04:16] <thegladiator> can someone tell me in gconf editor , nautilus , shud I set the "no_ubuntu-sptail" checked or unchecked to get the desired effect  ? to get spatial look i.e
[04:16] <ttur> See u soon
[04:16] <decaf> thegladiator: unset "always use browser", set no_ubuntu_spatial
[04:16] <jordo23> is there a ubuntu package for azureus?
[04:16] <mustard5> ttur, k :)
[04:16] <ttur> andthan u
[04:16] <Healot> download and install jre first, before run the jar package
[04:17] <mustard5> Silivrenion, you got a live CD?
[04:17] <Healot> jordo23, no...
[04:17] <thegladiator> thanks decaf
[04:17] <candyban> hi guys
[04:17] <pebkac> oh for.  alsa sucks on dapper but oss works?  oh, the humanity.
[04:17] <decaf> jordo23: no, but it works if you install sun-java
[04:17] <candyban> Anyone knows what this error is about? : Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_text_width: assertion `font != NULL' failed
[04:18] <candyban> And more importantly how can I get it fixed :)
[04:18] <mustard5> candyban, did the application still run?
[04:18] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: Unable to find swap space signature (which should be /dev/sda1). /n EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended.. [..more stuff..]  /dev/sda2 (the data partition) is mounted. e2fsck: connot continue, aborting. /n fsck failed please repair manually.
[04:18] <candyban> mustard5: Yes, the application ran, but it crashes and gives that error on the commmand line
[04:18] <compiler> hi @ all i need help, wanna install my printer, but cant find driver
[04:18] <mustard5> Silivrenion, do you have a liveCD?
[04:19] <thegladiator> !azureus
[04:19] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:19] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: no, I use the From Knoppix install method
[04:19] <mustard5> Silivrenion, fsck can't work on a mounted drive...so thats why it failed
[04:19] <thegladiator> jordo23, check what ubotu says ^
[04:19] <compiler> anybody can help?
[04:19] <candyban> mustard5: I'm running gq ... I can connect, get a list, can get to some properties, but when I scroll down, it crashes :/
[04:19] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: I have a live cd of knoppix
[04:19] <candyban> gq = ldap browser (if anyone is wondering :))
[04:20] <drapik> ktos mowi po polsku ?
[04:20] <mustard5> Silivrenion, k..well run that...and then run fsck on the partitions from there
[04:20] <babyboy> anyone had any experience with easycam2 ?
[04:20] <Silivrenion> ok
[04:20] <drapik> hello
[04:20] <mustard5> Silivrenion, thats the only way you can run fsck on your main partition anyway :)
[04:20] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: ty
[04:20] <mustard5> Silivrenion, because its mounted normally when you boot up :D
[04:21] <drapik> ive problem with ubuntu
[04:21] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: yah, what does fsck do anyway?
[04:21] <candyban> mustard5: any ideas what the error is about? (fonts I suppose, but more specific)
[04:21] <drapik> earlier i had WinXP
[04:21] <mustard5> Silivrenion, similar to scandisk on windows...checks for errors
[04:21] <drapik> and two partitions
[04:21] <mustard5> Silivrenion, type man fsck in terminal for full details
[04:21] <drapik> and i cannot open this second now...
[04:22] <mustard5> candyban, I have to say its beyond me actually :)
[04:22] <ZyntaxError> can i change both owner group and permissions whit just the chown command?
[04:22] <drapik> kurwa
[04:22] <G_zErO> my top and bottom bars are not showing
[04:22] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: it did leave me at a prompt.. press enter for maintenance, or type ctrl d to continue booting
[04:22] <mustard5> drapik, is it your windows partition that you can't see from linux?
[04:23] <mustard5> Silivrenion, yeah..I've had the same thing...and used a liveCD to check it
[04:23] <G_zErO> my top and bottom bars are not showing
[04:23] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: k, i'll do that and check it out.. thanks
[04:23] <mustard5> Silivrenion, k
[04:23] <MurraySW> mustard5:  Alright!  I stopped the torrent and Wine easily finishes downloading (hooray for me being right!)....now for a good tutorial on configging Wine..
[04:24] <MurraySW> I'm going to look, thanks for the help thus far mustard5, I apprecate it.
[04:24] <Jack_copp> I wonder if ubuntu will be updated with the last fontconfig on day ?
[04:24] <mustard5> MurraySW, did you find winetools after reloading the package information?
[04:24] <Healot> why do you need wine in the first place... use Windows to run windows programs, better move
[04:24] <mustard5> G_zErO, thats pretty unusual..what were you doing last?
[04:24] <zphinx> gosub return!
[04:25] <MurraySW> I'll look now that it's reloaded.
[04:25] <G_zErO> i just installed ubuntu
[04:25] <Mwafrika> Can anyone help me troubleshoot a VIDEO problem
[04:25] <G_zErO> and then revonfigured my graphics care
[04:25] <G_zErO> and then revonfigured my graphics card
[04:25] <MurraySW> mustard5:  Negative results for searches "winetools" or "winetool"
[04:25] <Mwafrika> i cant watch MOVIES
[04:25] <mustard5> G_zErO, ah ok..so you managed to get it configured..thats good :)
[04:25] <triablo_> Hello! How to install the kernel source file?
[04:25] <G_zErO> yeah
[04:25] <mustard5> MurraySW, bummer
[04:26] <mustard5> !tell Mwafrika about restricted
[04:26] <G_zErO> i have a desktop but top taskbars
[04:26] <Healot> triablo_, unzip, cd, and make
[04:26] <mustard5> Mwafrika, I'll get a link for you..one second..
[04:26] <triablo_> Where do I get the kernel source ?
[04:26] <Mwafrika> Thanks Mustard
[04:27] <mustard5> Mwafrika, have a look over this page on movies and music.. http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[04:27] <Dreamstar> guys how to use colors in xchat-gnome?
[04:27] <mustard5> triablo_, from synaptic
[04:27] <Dreamstar> i'd like to change a topic using colors
[04:27] <Mwafrika> Let me check Mustards... your the best
[04:27] <Dreamstar> (btw i mean text colors)
[04:27] <Healot> triablo_, try looking at the package list, first use synaptics... if there isn't any, try look to ubuntu package site
[04:28] <mustard5> G_zErO, hmmm..maybe gnome applets was not installed?
[04:28] <Healot> or kernel.org
[04:28] <mustard5> G_zErO, can you open a terminal?
[04:28] <G_zErO> is there a keyboard shortcut fir terminal
[04:28] <mustard5> G_zErO, look in Applications>Accessories
[04:29] <triablo_> Well I have kernel version 2.6.12-10-386, and I find only the kernel header files in Synaptic
[04:29] <Healot> yeah
[04:29] <Healot> check that out first...
[04:29] <joaquinz> does anybody know wich filesystem can be read-written by both linux and windows, omitting fat32?
[04:29] <joaquinz> because fat32 has the 32gb limit and i want to create a data partition writable by both os's but it's larger than 32gb
[04:29] <rohan> I'm having a little bit of problems with dvd playback... I HAVE  downloaded codecs n stuff but playback is really scetchy.
[04:29] <Healot> currently no...
[04:30] <Kyral> joaquinz: I have successfully made a 160 GB FAT32 part EASY
[04:30] <joaquinz> Kyral : how? isn't there a limit?
[04:30] <G_zErO> mustard5, i cant see the buttons up the top on the screen
[04:30] <Healot> not with DOS Fdisk
[04:30] <Kyral> joaquinz: To Windows there is, Linux doesn't give a damn :P
[04:30] <disasm> have a slight problem, I have an ssh server running on my computer. When I have a client do a remote tunnel for ssh on say port 3459 and then I ssh -p 3459 localhost, it gets upset about the key not matching. Only way I can make it work is rm .ssh/known_hosts (I used to edit known_hosts and delete line with local host but now it has the names encrypted)
[04:30] <mustard5> G_zErO, doh..silly me :)
[04:30] <Healot> with 3rd party partitioner you can
[04:30] <Kyral> man mkfs.vfat
[04:31] <mustard5> G_zErO, ok...read this completely before doing it please...
[04:31] <G_zErO> mustard5, ok
[04:31] <joaquinz> Kyral: but if i create this huge fat32 , will windows recognize it?
[04:31] <mustard5> G_zErO, ctrl + alt + f1 to get to terminal....ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to desktop
[04:31] <G_zErO> k
[04:31] <Kyral> joaquinz: should
[04:31] <disasm> so is there anyway I can tell it, if I'm sshing localhost I don't care if the key matches the one in known_hosts?
[04:31] <MurraySW> mustard5:  Wine seems to be installed and configured, now, lets say I'd like to install and run the game Diablo II...I insert the CD and .............?
[04:31] <mustard5> G_zErO, test it now :)
[04:31] <mustard5> MurraySW, and pray a lot :)
[04:32] <mustard5> MurraySW, I have strong doubts you would be able to get Diablo running
[04:32] <joaquinz> Kyral: have you tried it??
[04:32] <Kyral> joaquinz: yah
[04:32] <mustard5> MurraySW, something simpler would be a good start
[04:32] <G_zErO> mustard5, yep in terminal
[04:32] <MurraySW> mustard5:  Another person here said it should be no trouble ....hehe.
[04:32] <SonicYooth> Hey guys - is there a way to use apt-get and *not* remove dependant packages?
[04:32] <mustard5> G_zErO, ok..in terminal do this    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <mustard5> G_zErO, tell me if it installs anything
[04:32] <joaquinz> Kyral: thx u
[04:33] <joaquinz> :)
[04:33] <asdsadas> selammm
[04:33] <asdsadas> turkishhh
[04:33] <Mwafrika> Mustard: I cant even get the terminal running
[04:33] <joaquinz> another question, is it true that the new Xorg came with a new ati driver? how does it work?
[04:33] <mustard5> Mwafrika, you mean you don't know where it is..or you can't see it...or its doing strange things?
[04:33] <ZyntaxError> is it possible to just have write acc to i file and not read?
[04:33] <Healot> running Windows game with wine is pain the bottom...
[04:34] <Healot> use Windows, for Bill's sake
[04:34] <Mwafrika> i cant run it by shortcut
[04:34] <Assassin5> or try cedega
[04:34] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: I fscked /dev/sda2 , another thing the error said was that it couldn't find a swap partition. I fdisk -l and found the swap partition (/dev/sda1) is a "Linux" Systemtype. Is this the problem?
[04:34] <G_zErO> mustard5, started to install
[04:34] <mustard5> Silivrenion, yes
[04:34] <mustard5> Silivrenion, let me look at my swap partition..one second
[04:35] <Silivrenion> k thx
[04:35] <mustard5> G_zErO, ok..apparently your install wasnt finished
[04:35] <G_zErO> mustard5, said that it is upto date and didn't do anything
[04:35] <joaquinz> is it true that the new Xorg came with a new ati driver? how does it work?
[04:35] <trini> does anyone know how ot turn on and off vnc access via ssh?
[04:35] <trini> well via command line?
[04:35] <mustard5> Silivrenion, mine comes up as  'Linux swap / Solaris
[04:35] <mustard5> '
[04:35] <Zoroaster> anyone here ever set up vmware on Ubuntu
[04:35] <mustard5> G_zErO, hmm
[04:36] <Healot> joaquinz, yeah, not true... with ubuntu... it's on the restricted kernel module
[04:36] <sika_media> trini: you can google for it
[04:36] <mustard5> G_zErO, try logging out and back in again?
[04:36] <Mwafrika> Mustard... i did download the prayer... bu the bin file is not excutable
[04:36] <G_zErO> how
[04:36] <Healot> it loads automaticallly if you have a ATi card (9200 or newer)
[04:36] <mustard5> G_zErO, heh..yeah..good question :)
[04:36] <mustard5> G_zErO, I know the shutdown command
[04:36] <G_zErO> yeah
[04:36] <mustard5> G_zErO, but I don't know the log out command :D
[04:37] <mustard5> Mwafrika, what are you installing?
[04:37] <G_zErO> i know how to log out the comand log in
[04:37] <joaquinz> Healot: are u sure? and if i have installed fglrx?
[04:37] <trini> sika_media: all i get are instructions to launch vncserver but that file doesnt exist in ubuntu
[04:37] <Mwafrika> Mustard: the realprayer
[04:37] <mustard5> !realplayer
[04:37] <ubotu> I guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:38] <mustard5> Mwafrika, ok...let me look at the page
[04:38] <mustard5> Mwafrika, I thought you wanted to play movies?
[04:38] <Mwafrika> yes...
[04:38] <MurraySW> mustard5:  To unpack the WineTools .tar.gz file I use xjvf in the terminal?
[04:38] <Mwafrika> Mustard5: Yes play VCD movies
[04:38] <mustard5> Mwafrika, did you install all the gstreamer stuff on that movies and music page?
[04:38] <mustard5> MurraySW, I use the gui to extract stuff :)
[04:39] <ufo> !xgl
[04:39] <mustard5> MurraySW, I create a folder..right click on the file an choose 'extract here'
[04:39] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:39] <Mwafrika> Mustard5: oooh i thought its by choice... let me do that.... first
[04:39] <Kyral> ubotu: tell Kyral about fixres
[04:39] <triablo_> How to fix this: aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:39] <triablo_> ???
[04:39] <Healot> joaquinz, take a look at the installed file list of linux-restricted-modules-<kernel version>
[04:39] <Cookedgryphon> hey, i'm having a little trouble, i was trying to set up embedded media streaming in firefox, and trying out some different libraries, mplayer and xine, and thought id have a look at soem other media players while i was at it, then when i was done, kaffiene wouldn't uninstall and now nothign works, it says libasound.so.2 is broken and libstdc++
[04:39] <MetaMorfoziS> has ALSOUND an alternative which uses lowest cpu?
[04:39] <trini> do i need to install vnc server on ubuntu to be able to launch it from the command line
[04:39] <trini> ?
[04:40] <MetaMorfoziS> or any way to tweak it?
[04:40] <Healot> it should have fglrx there, yes it loads automatically... try any game that use OpenGL
[04:40] <Cookedgryphon> and things like nautilus and gnome terminal wont start up cos they can't access the shared libraries
[04:40] <Cookedgryphon> i can get xfce up and runnig tho
[04:41] <Mwafrika> Anyone please tell me how to get to a command line... that i can input "chmod +x"
[04:41] <mustard5> Cookedgryphon, do you have a history of what changes you made?  command line history?  synaptic history?
[04:41] <Cookedgryphon> and this irc seems to only update every 5 mins or so...
[04:41] <mustard5> Mwafrika, Applications>>Accessories
[04:42] <Mwafrika> thanks Mustards
[04:42] <mustard5> Mwafrika, you on breezy badger 5.10?
[04:42] <Healot> if you want a TTY/fullscreen, Hold Alt+Ctrl+F1
[04:42] <Mwafrika> I think so
[04:42] <Healot> easy
[04:42] <triablo_> How to fix this: aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:42] <triablo_> ???
[04:42] <mustard5> Mwafrika, k..well it should be there then :)
[04:42] <jgiardina>  anyone familiar with ubuntu financial support or products.
[04:42] <Healot> to get back to X, hold Alt+Ctrl and press F7
[04:43] <jgiardina> we adopted ubuntu here and would like to contribute back
[04:43] <mustard5> !donations
[04:43] <ubotu> mustard5: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:43] <Healot> it means, you don;t what fglrx library install, triablo_
[04:43] <jgiardina> mustard5:  eh?
[04:43] <Mwafrika> Mustrad5: there is nothing of that sort... i see calclator, Archive Manager, Charcter Map, Emac and text editor
[04:44] <mustard5> jgiardina, I was looking for a factoid from the bot..but no luck :)
[04:44] <Cookedgryphon> k, and it also seems i can't run the man pages for chrissake! how random is that, and i can't hear anyone saying anything, not sure if you can hear me... i'm gna try and get chatzilla workign instead
[04:44] <jgiardina>  mustard5: i see
[04:44] <mustard5> Mwafrika, hmmm..you might be on an earlier version...try in Applications>>System Tools
[04:44] <mustard5> jgiardina, I'm still searching...I'll get an answer soon :)
[04:44] <defrysk> jgiardina, http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/
[04:45] <thehil> Does anyone have  a thinkpad  and a kernel with suspend2?
[04:45] <jgiardina> ubuntu is heavily relied on in our enterprise now, i have replaced so much with it.
[04:45] <Mwafrika> Mustrad5: Is it same as root terminal may be?
[04:45] <jgiardina> ubuntu is used in conjunction with a large active directory implementation
[04:45] <mustard5> jgiardina, http://www.ubuntu.com/donations
[04:46] <jgiardina> great, thx
[04:46] <ufo> could someone look the symbolic link from xglhowto? i need to remove it but cant remember where i did it :)
[04:46] <mustard5> Mwafrika, nope
[04:46] <mustard5> Mwafrika, just 'terminal'
[04:46] <Engla> W 3
[04:46] <ufo> its before the compiz syntax. please
[04:47] <ZyntaxError> can i execute a program i just got read permission on?
[04:47] <thehil> what's the background text in http://www.ontheedge.ch/image/screenshot_1.jpg ?
[04:47] <SonicYooth> Hey guys - is there a way to use apt-get and *not* remove dependant packages? For example, when I want to remove a bittorrent client it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. And that doesn't sound like it'd be a good thing.
[04:47] <Mwafrika> Mustard5:..... i got it
[04:47] <mustard5> SonicYooth, removing ubuntu-desktop is ok
[04:47] <thehil> SonicYooth: you may report a bug to the repository
[04:48] <ZyntaxError> anyone? can i execute a program whit read perm...?
[04:48] <tatters> what happens if you remove Ubuntu-dektop ?
[04:48] <SonicYooth> mustard5: it is? hmm okay. i removed the evolution mail client yesterday and my ubuntu wouldnt boot. :-/
[04:48] <mustard5> SonicYooth, its a meta-package...the only time you need to worry about it being uninstalled is when you got to do a distribution upgrade for instance from Breezy to Dapper
[04:48] <ablomen> ZyntaxError: no you need exec permisions to execute something
[04:48] <thehil> SonicYooth: use man apt-get ;I can't find how
[04:48] <Dreamstar> anyone pls can tell me how to change the color of the text in xchat-gnome? thank u!
[04:49] <mustard5> SonicYooth, a meta-package is not a package per se, but a pointer to other packages
[04:49] <mustard5> SonicYooth, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[04:49] <defrysk> Dreamstar, check the settingsbutton of xchat2
[04:49] <mustard5> Mwafrika, ok..so you can enter your command now?
[04:49] <ZyntaxError> ablomen: thanks
[04:50] <ablomen> np
[04:50] <mustard5> Mwafrika, how did you go with all those installs?
[04:50] <Dreamstar> defrysk: i mean changing the color of text only for a string here in room for example
[04:50] <Mwafrika> Mustrad5: It says file not found
[04:50] <mustard5> Mwafrika, where did you download it to?
[04:50] <SonicYooth> mustard5: oh okay. thanks guys. is there anything significant to watch out for if i'm uninstalling generally non-important stuff (i.e. solitaire games and the like)
[04:50] <mustard5> Mwafrika, what folder?
[04:51] <Dreamstar> i know that in irc it should be something like"~b~c4" but here in xchat it's not working
[04:51] <Mwafrika> Mustrad5: Desktop and root
[04:51] <gegeta2> 
[04:51] <mustard5> SonicYooth, apt-get and synaptic generally give you lots of warnings ..I can't think of anything specific
[04:51] <jjjjjjj> morning.   how do i get out of a man page?  i type md man
[04:51] <gegeta2> ..  
[04:51] <SonicYooth> mustard5: okay cool, just being careful. thanks again!
[04:51] <mustard5> Mwafrika, you logged in as root?
[04:51] <tatters> if i sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  how do I get rid of it
[04:51] <mustard5> SonicYooth, careful is good...asking first is good :)
[04:52] <SonicYooth> mustard5: :)
[04:52] <Healot> hankuk mal isso?
[04:52] <Mwafrika> Mustard5: Yes i loogged in as a root
[04:52] <mustard5> tatters, not very easily with apt-get
[04:52] <mustard5> Mwafrika, hmmm....
[04:52] <tatters> didnt think so  :(
[04:52] <redguy|work> !jp
[04:52] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, redguy|work
[04:52] <jjjjjjj> anyone know how to get out of a cli man page?
[04:53] <redguy|work> jjjjjjj: hit q
[04:53] <mustard5> Mwafrika, thats not a good practice you know :)
[04:53] <jjjjjjj> thx redguy
[04:53] <Mwafrika> Mustrad: im installing now..... let me see how it goes
[04:53] <Mwafrika> Mustrad5: i know its not.... but i though u can make installation from root account
[04:53] <mustard5> tatters, i wonder whether aptitude would do a better job
[04:54] <tatters> hmm ive not looked at that ill chk it out thnks
[04:54] <mustard5> tatters, I believe if you uninstall with aptitude then it will remove orphaned dependencies as well
[04:54] <mustard5> tatters, dont quote me on that though :D
[04:54] <tatters> lol
[04:54] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: I ran mkswap on /dev/sda1 and fscked the /dev/sda2. I also checked fstab to make sure it is labeled as a "swap" filetype. Is there anything else I need to do?
[04:54] <redguy|work> mustard5: it would, it would remeber all packages which were brought in as dependencies of kubuntu-desktop and remove them on removal of kubuntu-dekstop
[04:55] <mustard5> redguy|work, cool
[04:55] <redguy|work> mustard5: but I doubt that it will know the dependencies for a package installed via apt-get.
[04:55] <joaquinz> well, tell me if im wrong, xorg 7.00 come with a new free open source ati driver that works faster and better than fglrx
[04:55] <joaquinz> is it true?
[04:55] <redguy|work> erm, s/know/remove/
[04:56] <mustard5> Silivrenion, I am not really sure..if you want to talk it through first I'm hear to listen :)
[04:56] <amphi> joaquinz: not for newer cards, I doubt, but maybe
[04:56] <mustard5> Silivrenion, was that definitely the swap file before?
[04:56] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: the only thing I didnt do was change /dev/sda1 's partition ID to linux swap.. I was told it doesnt matter
[04:56] <joaquinz> amphi: so we still have to use the shitty fglrx :( ?
[04:56] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: it wasnt.. i'm making it
[04:57] <mustard5> Silivrenion, k
[04:57] <amphi> joaquinz: or enjoy the trailing edge ;)
[04:57] <mustard5> Silivrenion, so is /etc/fstab edited to reflect the change?
[04:57] <Silivrenion> it has no mount point, and has a "swap" filesystem type in fstab
[04:57] <LadyNikon> virtual desktops with ubuntu
[04:57] <kc1933> Question: I running Ubuntu 5.10, along with VMWare Player running Windows XP Home. Printing is giving me trouble. Priting works fine in Ubuntu, but once I load VMWare Player, Ubuntu won't print. Windows XP Prints fine, but not Ubuntu. Even if I click the button in VMWare Player to disconnect the printer fro Windows XP, Ubuntu still won't print. Any ideas?
[04:57] <LadyNikon> was it gpm?
[04:57] <joaquinz> amphi : trailing edge?
[04:57] <ivo_> Hey people plz help me i need the web page where i can download for my unbuntu new themes
[04:57] <tatters> I have no installed anything  since I did kubuntu-desktop so maybe it will remove clenaly do you think?
[04:57] <amphi> joaquinz: my mobile radeon m7 is well supported by xorg
[04:57] <mustard5> Silivrenion, well I guess the only way to know is to try it now
[04:57] <Silivrenion> k
[04:58] <mustard5> Silivrenion, its all new to me :)
[04:58] <amphi> joaquinz: older technology, as opposed to 'bleeding edge'
[04:58] <joaquinz> amphi : do u have 3d acceleration support?
[04:58] <ivo_> mustard5 Hi :)
[04:58] <redguy|work> kc1933: sounds like a problem with VMWare, but I am not an expert on this
[04:58] <mustard5> ivo_, hi!
[04:58] <southern> hi all
[04:58] <redguy|work> ivo_: try www.gnome-look.org
[04:58] <mustard5> hey southern
[04:58] <Mwafrika> Mustard5: ...... I finished installing but.... i cant run the application it says failed to excute child play
[04:58] <Mortal``> Hi southern
[04:58] <southern> hi mustard5
[04:58] <ivo_> ok tnx
[04:59] <southern> hi Mortal``
[04:59] <southern> :)
[04:59] <kc1933> redguy|work, seems like it. But I'm not sure where to debug
[04:59] <amphi> cool, a whole 7 seconds of my animation has rendered ;)
[04:59] <jordo23> Anyone know where i can get the .deb file for azureus?
[04:59] <mustard5> Mwafrika, with you running as root, I really don't know what the implications of that are
[04:59] <southern> mustard5: where can I set time (console mode)?
[04:59] <amphi> joaquinz: yeah
[04:59] <Healot> kc1933, did you configure you VM with USB ports?
[04:59] <redguy|work> kc1933: try asking VMWare people..., or wait here until somebody more silled answers your question
[05:00] <mustard5> southern, hmmm...I suspect the date command....never tried though
[05:00] <redguy|work> s/silled/skilled
[05:00] <joaquinz> amphi : but maybe radeon is not supported yet :(
[05:00] <Mwafrika> Mustard5: ooooh noo
[05:00] <redguy|work> !info azureus
[05:00] <amphi> joaquinz: depends which card - man radeon will tell you
[05:00] <abhinav12383> unable to boot ubuntu on compaq laptop.any help?
[05:00] <kc1933> Healot, I'm not sure what you mean
[05:00] <mustard5> southern, try this in terminal   man date
[05:01] <Healot> if you didn't, your USB printer will no be installed, because the VM doesn't have any USB ports installed
[05:01] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: the swap mounted successfully on /dev/sda1, but everytime the system starts, it wants to "Check All Filesystems", and /dev/sda2 is already mounted
[05:01] <mustard5> southern, that will show you the manual for the date command
[05:01] <Healot> kc1933, you're using VMWare right?
[05:01] <southern> yes I'm checking...
[05:01] <amphi> abhinav12383: try smart boot manager perhaps, if the cd won't boot at all (and you have a floppy drive)
[05:01] <southern> thx
[05:01] <mustard5> Silivrenion, thats ok isnt it?
[05:01] <kc1933> Healot, the printer works fine in VMWare player
[05:01] <meisam> hi guysssss...anybody can help me here
[05:01] <joaquinz> amphi : mmm the man page says my card its supported
[05:01] <mustard5> Silivrenion, if there are no errors it should go fine?
[05:01] <amphi> joaquinz: which card?
[05:01] <abhinav12383> system hangs on booting ubuntu.wireless module problem.any help?
[05:01] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: its saying fsck failed again because it cant scan a mounted drive...
[05:02] <joaquinz> amphi : ati 9600 xt
[05:02] <mustard5> Silivrenion, ah ok..
[05:02] <Healot> kc1933, ok, which OS is the host, and which is the guest OS?
[05:02] <Healot> don;t tell me VMWare player :)
[05:02] <kc1933> Host: Ubuntu 5.10, Guest: Windows XP Home
[05:02] <Healot> great...
[05:02] <kc1933> Healot, VMWare Player
[05:02] <mustard5> Silivrenion, I guess you need to fsck /dev/sda2 from liveCD?
[05:02] <amphi> joaquinz: R300        Radeon 9700PRO/9700/9500PRO/9500/9600TX, FireGL X1/Z1 (2D only) here
[05:02] <abhinav12383> Pl help with laptop boot.
[05:02] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: i already did
[05:03] <mustard5> Silivrenion, no errors?
[05:03] <amphi> abhinav12383: more info
[05:03] <meisam> hi
[05:03] <meisam> anybody here?
[05:03] <Healot> did you set the USB port of the Windows XP VM  to shareable?
[05:03] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: there were some errors that it fixed
[05:03] <joaquinz> amphi : RV360       Radeon 9600XT (2d only)
[05:03] <kc1933> Healot, no, not sure how to do that
[05:03] <mustard5> Silivrenion, the only thing I can think of is to do it again
[05:03] <abhinav12383> ubuntu hangs on boot.intel pro wireless 2100 problem.
[05:04] <mustard5> Silivrenion, maybe there are new errors now?  I'm grasping at straws here :)
[05:04] <amphi> joaquinz: yeah, sorry - fglrx for you, if you want 3d accel
[05:04] <Yokalosh> any way of copying my whole ubuntu install to a newer bigger hd?
[05:04] <Healot> well... I don;t have VMware with me now, I can;t tell you exactly how... at the moment
[05:04] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: it seems like checking all file systems is part of the startup process
[05:04] <rewt_> Anyone here use aMule?
[05:04] <joaquinz> amphi :'(
[05:04] <amphi> abhinav12383: what problem?
[05:04] <mustard5> Silivrenion, yep..if it finds errors on a mounted drive it drops out of the startup sequence though
[05:04] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: its only failing cause its already mounted, not necessarily because theres errors
[05:04] <amphi> joaquinz: indeed
[05:04] <mustard5> Silivrenion, its your main partition?
[05:04] <joaquinz> amphi : thx u :(
[05:05] <kc1933> Healot, I'll look into it. Thanks
[05:05] <redguy|work> Yokalosh: you could boot in rescue mode and copy everything to the new drive
[05:05] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: yes
[05:05] <Healot> kc1933, you got to set the USB ports for Windows XP (guest) as non-exclusive (shareable), so your ubuntu host can use the ports too
[05:05] <ZyntaxError> how do i use the chmod to remove read access for users for all files and folders in a directroy? chmod o-r folder/???
[05:05] <mustard5> Silivrenion, it has to be mounted to run the system though...no getting around that
[05:05] <ailean> hey folks - i'm getting very large letters in the menus of mplayer and xmms . . . anyone know why?
[05:05] <Healot> chmod 333
[05:05] <rewt_> Anyone here use aMule?
[05:05] <amphi> joaquinz: maybe the next version of xorg will have support for it, dunno; ISTR hearing that ATI are being better about working with the xorg devs
[05:06] <kc1933> Healot, do you think that's an XP setting, a VMWare Player setting, or maybe VMWare Tools setting?
[05:06] <Yokalosh> redguy: would that also copy the bootloader etc?
[05:06] <ZyntaxError> Healot: i want to do it for all fils and folders in a directory
[05:06] <Healot> the VMware setting
[05:06] <abhinav12383> ipw2100 detected intel pro/wireless 2100 network .after giving this message it  hangs.
[05:06] <Healot> ZyntaxError, then, do this 'chmod -Rf 333 /'
[05:06] <abhinav12383> it does not boot
[05:06] <Healot> requires root, or sudo
[05:06] <joaquinz> amphi : ok ... i shall wait, there is not more to do :(  thx u
[05:07] <Healot> 'sudo chmod -Rf 333 /'
[05:07] <amphi> abhinav12383: so it could not be that - 2200 seems to cause no probs
[05:07] <mustard5> Healot, what is that command?
[05:07] <amphi> abhinav12383: did you try any of the boot options? dunno if any are any use
[05:07] <redguy|work> Yokalosh: you would have to install the bootloader by yourself, that's the only thing besides copying that has to be done. Also, you can boot from a live cd and do the same
[05:07] <MetaMorfoziS> have openal an alternative? which uses lower cpu?
[05:07] <mustard5> ZyntaxError, I don't like the look of that command
[05:07] <jordo23> Does anyone know where I can get the .deb file for Azureus to run under Breezu?
[05:07] <amphi> joaquinz: you refuse fglrx ? ;)
[05:07] <inez> Hello, I can't find a e-mail program on ubuntu
[05:07] <Healot> he wants to set the read flag of all dirs and files
[05:07] <amphi> !azureus
[05:07] <ubotu> somebody said azureus was a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[05:08] <mustard5> Healot, on a specific folder though..not the whole system
[05:08] <linkd> Healot: thats not the way to do even that ;)
[05:08] <ZyntaxError> mustard5: of what command?
[05:08] <amphi> inez: mutt is what I prefer, FWIW
[05:08] <redguy|work> inez: evolution, thunderbird, mutt pine
[05:08] <linkd> thatll only set read flags and remove all other flags
[05:08] <Healot> well, he needs ALL
[05:08] <mustard5> ZyntaxError, Healots commands is wrong thats all
[05:08] <inez> yeah i've cot thunderbird but he done't works
[05:09] <joaquinz> amphi : no no,but you've to recognize that fglrx is not a good driver... and when i listened about a new open source driver that would rule fglrx without any difficult
[05:09] <jordo23> amphi: the wiki page provides a link, but when clicking on it the file is not found...
[05:09] <inez> can you help me find enother one?
[05:09] <marc> hello
[05:09] <ailean> okay, another question then. i've mounted my XP partition, but it seems that only root can access it - is there a way to make it accessible by anyone for read-only?
[05:09] <abhinav12383> amphi:i tried a lot.but it doesn't.Problem is that its module gets loaded in the kernel.I don't know what boot option to give to disable it
[05:09] <amphi> jordo23: oh
[05:09] <Healot> i was right on the -Rf and /
[05:09] <redguy|work> inez: explain "doesn't work"
[05:09] <marc> hey guys, how do I know my dialup modem connection speed?
[05:09] <joaquinz> amphi : well i've got really happy :(
[05:09] <ailean> 56.6k probably
[05:09] <Healot> pppstats...
[05:09] <jordo23> amphi: I had Azureus installed, but somehow it disappeared.
[05:09] <ailean> @marc
[05:09] <ZyntaxError> mustard5: whats your sugestion then?
[05:09] <amphi> jordo23: yeah, fglrx seems a cause of suffering
[05:09] <amphi> jordo23: heh
[05:10] <mustard5> ZyntaxError, I'm still thinking about it :)
[05:10] <jordo23> amphi: fglrx?
[05:10] <mustard5> ZyntaxError, I'm not that fast with octal :)
[05:10] <amphi> joaquinz: do you need 3d accel?
[05:10] <inez> another question: whats the name of a paint "thing" ore something:-)
[05:10] <amphi> jordo23: sorry, that was to joaquinz - tab-tarding
[05:10] <Healot> 333? sets read flag?
[05:10] <redguy|work> inez: also, evolution is installed by default, you should already have it
[05:10] <amphi> inez: gimp
[05:10] <amphi> inez: or inkscape for vector stuff
[05:11] <inez> Okay, thanks
[05:11] <linkd> Healot: invite what i said, i wasnt following properly, itll add perms nm
[05:11] <jordo23> amphi: I found a .deb file for azureus, but it says it conflicts with libseda-java
[05:11] <abhinav12383> amphi: pl help
[05:11] <mustard5> ZyntaxError, so you want to stop reading and executing by all other users...not your user?
[05:11] <linkd> ZyntaxError: chmod -r /path/to/folder #will work
[05:11] <linkd> erm
[05:11] <Healot> he wants to "chmod to remove read access for users for all files and folders"
[05:11] <inez> Zijn er hier ook Nederlanders die mij kunnen helpen?
[05:11] <linkd> ZyntaxError: chmod -R -r /path/to/folder rather
[05:11] <Ng> !nl
[05:11] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[05:11] <abhinav12383> amphi:i tried a lot.but it doesn't.Problem is that its module gets loaded in the kernel.I don't know what boot option to give to disable it
[05:11] <ZyntaxError> mustard5: well im interested of how to change permissions for all files and folders in a folder
[05:12] <amphi> abhinav12383: I have not seen this problem, so I don't have much idea - dod you look at linux-laptop.net and/or tuxmobil.org?
[05:12] <amphi> er, did
[05:12] <mustard5> ZyntaxError, well you need an octal value..you on gnome btw?
[05:12] <redguy|work> ZyntaxError: use the -R switch of chmod
[05:12] <Healot> he didn't say exactly what to do...
[05:12] <joaquinz> amphi : mm yes and no... i've a windows installation to play but i dont know , i dream about the day that i will can delete windows without any regret
[05:12] <Healot> change read flag on the user, group or others?
[05:12] <Healot> i gave my suggestion
[05:13] <mustard5> Healot, yeah..which would have changed every file on his system :)
[05:13] <Healot> hehe
[05:13] <linkd> mustard5: there is no need for octal. if you doing an "adjustment" rather than a set, you just use the flag-mode things, such as "-r" for "remove read from all"
[05:13] <inez> can I find (enywere) windows media player on Ubuntu?
[05:13] <Healot> it was not specific :)
[05:13] <ailean> inez, why do you need it?
[05:13] <mustard5> linkd, k
[05:13] <amphi> joaquinz: aye; I like 3d accel for celestia and stellarium; I also have vop, a povray anim previewer that uses opengl, but I haven't messed with it much yet
[05:13] <amphi> inez: no
[05:13] <ZyntaxError> Say i want to remove  write acc for group members for all files in the corrunt dir and all subdirrs?
[05:13] <ailean> inez, you can run it under wine
[05:13] <inez> ailean:for music
[05:13] <ailean> inez, there are loads of native apps, like xmms
[05:13] <abhinav12383> amphi:yes i have.But just tell me how can i remove that module from the kernel.Even if i install in expert mode i don't see an option to turn it off
[05:13] <amphi> inez: there a loads of media players
[05:14] <redguy|work> inez: try rythmbox
[05:14] <linkd> ZyntaxError: chmod -Rf g-w /path/tp/dir
[05:14] <ailean> inez, or rhythmbox :) whatever one you prefer
[05:14] <amphi> abhinav12383: I have no idea
[05:14] <inez> Okay, thanks everybody
[05:14] <redguy|work> !tell inez about restricted
[05:14] <ZyntaxError> linkd: thanks! do i need do specify the hole path?
[05:14] <joaquinz> amphi : the matter is , if only linux could be used for games, i could delete windows and have a lot of disk space more :( but i cant because the ati graphic support and cedega game support are terrible :(
[05:14] <linkd> ZyntaxError: a relative one will do if u like
[05:14] <amphi> abhinav12383: no one else reported such problems that you found?
[05:14] <redguy|work> inez: read what ubotu told you as well for playing mp3's
[05:14] <mustard5> ZyntaxError, it would be safer to do it with full path :)
[05:14] <amphi> joaquinz: don't play games ;)
[05:15] <linkd> ZyntaxError: so "." for current dir, ".." for parent etc
[05:15] <MetaMorfoziS> !openal
[05:15] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:15] <amphi> abhinav12383: perhaps you can disable the card in the BIOS?
[05:15] <inez> reduy | work: Okay
[05:15] <ZyntaxError> linkd: thanks
[05:15] <amphi> abhinav12383: or power it off with a Fn-key-combo?
[05:15] <ailean> is there anyone that can help me with access to my ntfs partition?  It is mounted but only root can access it
[05:16] <amphi> abhinav12383: what model is the laptop?
[05:16] <mustard5> ailean, yeah..I can give it a go
[05:16] <mustard5> ailean, you used the pastebin before?
[05:16] <ailean> mustard5, it's just partitions
[05:16] <redguy|work> joaquinz: talk to ATI about supporting their hardware n linux
[05:16] <ailean> mustard5, no
[05:16] <typo> hello. where can i find the package mysql-server-4.1 ?
[05:16] <inez> what means "GNOME" ore something
[05:16] <typo> it is supposed to be in ubuntu breezy, isn't it?
[05:16] <mustard5> ailean, open up this url in browser..  http://www.ubuntu.com/donations
[05:16] <redguy|work> inez: www.gnome.org
[05:16] <Healot> joaquinz, for games, i rather doze...
[05:16] <ailean> mustard5, okay, opened
[05:17] <mustard5> ailean, ok   cat /etc/fstab    and paste contents in pastebin
[05:17] <deus> salve a tutti
[05:17] <mustard5> ailean, do that make sense?
[05:17] <Silivrenion> mustard5 :: i ran fsck and everything passed..
[05:17] <deus> sono un nuovo utente ubuntu
[05:17] <redguy|work> !it
[05:17] <CarlFK> how do I shut down X? like what tellinit 3 should have done
[05:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:17] <ailean> mustard5, no, i don't know what you mean by pastebin
[05:17] <joaquinz> redguy|work , well, i will do it but i dont mind that a simple letter written by a eighteen boy of argentina would make those guys to make a decent driver
[05:17] <linkd> mustard5: u pasted the wrong link :P
[05:18] <mustard5> ailean, hehehe sorry wrong link
[05:18] <ailean> hehe
[05:18] <ailean> mustard5, np :)
[05:18] <joaquinz> amphi : hahah those days im using linux a lot , so im not playing :'(
[05:18] <mustard5> ailean, ok.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:18] <amphi> joaquinz: heh
[05:18] <Sedlav> c
[05:18] <mustard5> linkd, thanks..didnt notice that :)
[05:18] <Healot> CarlFK, i'd killall X as root in TTY
[05:18] <amphi> joaquinz: yeah, there are more interesting things to do IMHO
[05:19] <ailean> mustard5, ok done :)
[05:19] <mustard5> ailean, ok..in terminal ..type this command   cat /etc/fstab
[05:19] <CarlFK> Healot: k that will work, but Ithink there is a 'right way' ;)
[05:19] <sjmorgan> /quit
[05:19] <MetaMorfoziS> is there anyway to tweak openal?
[05:19] <mustard5> ailean, then copy and paste the output into the pastebin
[05:19] <MetaMorfoziS> it uses high cpu
[05:19] <mustard5> ailean, hit send...then copy the URL into here
[05:19] <ailean> k
[05:19] <redguy|work> joaquinz: well, if it was one letter it propably wouldn't, but the more letters they receive the higher the chance they will treat linux more seriously
[05:20] <ailean> mustard5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9127
[05:20] <mustard5> ailean, thanks..
[05:20] <southern> how can I reconfigure my pppoeconf?
[05:20] <redguy|work> southern: run pppoeconf
[05:20] <southern> i tried
[05:20] <herede> !find aterm
[05:20] <CarlFK> Healot: x keeps restarting....
[05:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'aterm' (6 shown): aterm ;; aterm-ml ;; multi-aterm ;; xt-aterm ;; xt-aterm-dev ;; xt-aterm-doc.
[05:21] <redguy|work> southern: and?
[05:21] <hugo_> hello
[05:21] <southern> "timestamp too far in the future..."
[05:21] <Healot> restart to runlevel where it does not run X... CarlFK
[05:21] <mustard5> ailean, ok..I'll just make up a new line for your ntfs partition on fstab....one second
[05:21] <redguy|work> southern: hrm, time problems?
[05:21] <Healot> X playing hard on you? CarlFK
[05:21] <hugo_> anyone knows something about "init 6"
[05:21] <CarlFK> yeah...
[05:22] <ailean> mustard5, thanks
[05:22] <southern> I don't know
[05:22] <southern> i set it ...
[05:22] <Healot> that's reboot///
[05:22] <redguy|work> hugo_: it propably means "restart"
[05:22] <herede> anyone installed Aterm on ubuntu?
[05:22] <redguy|work> hugo_: what Healot said
[05:22] <southern> hoopppppp
[05:22] <adex> ...
[05:22] <abhinav12383> amphi:But i don't have a wifi card.
[05:22] <mustard5> ailean, ok..in terminal type   sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:22] <redguy|work> southern: then you most propably set it wrong :-)
[05:22] <southern> sudo says always timestamp probleme
[05:23] <hugo_> redguy|work_: yeahh but in my case it only want's my root pw
[05:23] <southern> what can I do?
[05:23] <Healot> your X was configured to restart... i think you need to kill the server... by killing the service itself... CarlFK
[05:23] <redguy|work> southern: ok, try sudo -i
[05:23] <Healot> and I forgot how the hell to stop a service in Linux, hahah
[05:23] <mustard5> ailean, change the line in fstab for /dev/hda to this one below....
[05:23] <southern> same
[05:23] <CarlFK> Healot: they changed the whole runlevel thing, # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault:
[05:23] <mustard5> ailean, /dev/hda1    /mnt/windows ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[05:23] <adex> quit
[05:23] <CarlFK> Healot: any idea what the name of the service is?
[05:23] <redguy|work> southern: well, then boot in the recovery mode and set the time in there
[05:24] <Healot> yeah... ubuntu did that
[05:24] <southern> ok
[05:24] <jjjjjjj> i canno log in anonymously to vsftpcd :(   vsftpd.conf says i can.
[05:24] <redguy|work> southern: also, you can propably run pppoeconf in there as well
[05:24] <hugo_> redguy|work_: so i can't restart my pc with menu only saying reboot or shutdown -r
[05:24] <ailean> mustard5, thanks - would you mind explaining the changes?
[05:24] <ompaul> southern, do this "sudo -K" a few times and change the fix the battery time on your computer
[05:24] <jetscreamer> -t
[05:24] <jetscreamer> -t mustard
[05:24] <mustard5> ailean, I wish I knew...I just copied it from a how to ;)
[05:24] <abhinav12383> amphi:But i don't have a wifi card.
[05:25] <mustard5> ailean, hehe
[05:25] <Healot> in the old days... i usually start X manually by init script
[05:25] <ailean> mustard5, okay :)
[05:25] <jetscreamer> -t(ype)
[05:25] <amphi> abhinav12383: you don't? so wtf is it loading the module?
[05:25] <mustard5> ailean, umask=000 gives all users permissions I think
[05:25] <amphi> abhinav12383: sorry, I was afk
[05:25] <jetscreamer> -t ntfs or whatever
[05:25] <mustard5> ailean, its all explained in the manual for fstab  which you can access in terminal with the command    man fstab
[05:25] <ailean> mustard5, well it worked anyway
[05:25] <mustard5> ailean, now one more thing
[05:25] <mustard5> ailean, yeah?
[05:26] <ailean> mustard5, okay, i'll have a read
[05:26] <Healot> in ubuntu it's xorg-common....
[05:26] <linkd> mustard5: actually its man mount
[05:26] <ailean> linkd, i believe it's in both
[05:26] <linkd> mustard5 & ailean is "man mount" since fstab is just settings for mount
[05:26] <mustard5> linkd, well man fstab refers you to man mount :)
[05:26] <abhinav12383> amphi:i don't know.i have same problem with mandriva & knoppix
[05:26] <ailean> hehe
[05:26] <linkd> mmk, well the flags are in man mount
[05:26] <mustard5> linkd, I stand corrected :)
[05:27] <ailean> hmmm i have loads of questions . . . )
[05:27] <ailean> :)
[05:27] <Bladedge> guys
[05:27] <Bladedge> does ubuntu support usb wifi please?
[05:27] <mustard5> ailean, I got it from this how to anyway.. http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[05:27] <jetscreamer> more like does the kernel support...
[05:27] <Bladedge> ok
[05:27] <Bladedge> does it?
[05:28] <Healot> CarlFK, try to move /etc/init.d/xorg-common somewhere else then, restart, see how that goes...
[05:28] <jetscreamer> depends on the card
[05:28] <ailean> mustard5, lol i searched for about an hour for something similar
[05:28] <jetscreamer> just ask about your card
[05:28] <ailean> mustard5, you must be better than me
[05:28] <loko> f
[05:28] <mustard5> ailean, I have vast experience in how to's :)  they are my lifeblood :D
[05:28] <ailean> mustard5, . . . at searching - i pressed return a bit early there :)
[05:29] <coudron> does anyone happen to know if you can install the latest ATI drivers on Dapper Drake 6.04?
[05:29] <abhinav12383> amphi:help
[05:29] <Healot> the symlinks to xorg-common, should be somewhere in rc.X folders, CarlFK
[05:29] <Bladedge> nope its a usb adapter
[05:29] <amphi> abhinav12383: how bizarre - hast thou googled assiduously?
[05:29] <CarlFK> Healot: I just chmod a-x it and am rebooting
[05:29] <ailean> the other thing i wanted to do was install ie6 under wine. i know it can be done, but when i run the ie6setup.exe program, it can't access the net to download the rest
[05:30] <Healot> sure... set the X bit off....
[05:30] <ablomen> a fast perl question (i know its not the right channel but i have this channel open ;) ) does anybody know if theres a commend to randomize the order of a array?
[05:30] <mustard5> ailean, hmmm..not sure about that one...I've installed an earlier internet explorer in wine using winetools..but havent ever updated it
[05:30] <Bladedge> jetscreamer: got an adapter but i dunno how to configure it
[05:30] <abhinav12383> amphi:I have been trying to solve this problem since yesterday
[05:30] <redguy|work> ailean: try downloading and installing winetools
[05:31] <amphi> abhinav12383: one day? that's not much ;)
[05:31] <CarlFK> rats... didn't work
[05:31] <amphi> abhinav12383: what is the exact model?
[05:31] <Healot> ablomen, I can do that with Python,,, perl? I think you can do that too... what module...
[05:31] <coudron> does anyone happen to know if you can install the latest ATI drivers on Dapper Drake 6.04? I get and upsopported archetecture error.
[05:31] <redguy|work> ailean: also, you should note that, according to the IE EULA, you can't use IE without a valid Windows licence
[05:31] <mustard5> ailean, when wine updates it has a habit of borking winetools...so sometimes you have to wait for winetools to be updated after a recent wine update
[05:31] <redguy|work> license even
[05:32] <Healot> well, except IE for MacOS :)
[05:32] <ablomen> Healot: yeah its possible but i dont know the command ;)
[05:32] <decaf> I have 7 (seven) win98 licences
[05:32] <Bladedge> like anyone please help with the dam usb wifi adapter ?
[05:32] <Healot> me tooo...
[05:32] <Bladedge> blasted wifi
[05:32] <Healot> I don't do perl... :(
[05:32] <ablomen> hmm google time then :P
[05:32] <decaf> anybosy wants one? (unfortunatly all of them are turkish)
[05:32] <redguy|work> Healot: is it still supported?
[05:33] <ailean> redguy|work, i have a valid windows license :)
[05:33] <Healot> no... not from MS... though
[05:33] <amphi> Bladedge: blasted usb more like ;)
[05:33] <Healot> IE 5.2 is still alive in MacOS 9/10
[05:33] <southern> why I can't use "sudo nmap localhost" ???????
[05:33] <Healot> i mean X
[05:33] <Bladedge> thought bout it but after the post :)
[05:33] <Bladedge> but how do i configure it lol
[05:33] <Bladedge> pleaes
[05:33] <ailean> redguy|work, mustard5 it's not that i actually want to use it, but many programs use components from ie
[05:33] <Bladedge> please*
[05:33] <vasP_L> I just installed windows xp on another drive, and now when I boot up I cant enter ubuntu. Is it a grub problem, how can I fix it?
[05:33] <mustard5> ailean, yep I understand
[05:34] <amphi> vasP_L: does grub load?
[05:34] <vasP_L> no
[05:34] <mustard5> ailean, I've encountered quite a few while playing around with wine
[05:34] <redguy|work> southern: elaborate on "can't use"
[05:34] <Healot> vasP_L, do you automatically boot to Windows?
[05:34] <vasP_L> yes,.
[05:34] <ailean> redguy|work, mustard5, i tried to install winetools from the ubuntu repo but it wanted to uninstall wine to do it
[05:34] <Healot> if so, you need to use bootpart... to add Ubuntu to your NT bootloader list...
[05:35] <southern> redguy|work: It says: Failed to detemine the netmas of !: No such device
[05:35] <mustard5> ailean, hmm ok..are you installing wine from the sourceforge repos or from standard ubuntu repos?
[05:35] <amphi> vasP_L: then you must reinstall it
[05:35] <Healot> you can do it manually using linux CD and do the dd command... ask the other about dd...
[05:35] <ailean> mustard5, from the sourceforge repo, using Automatix
[05:35] <vasP_L> amphi, xp?
[05:35] <mustard5> ailean, k
[05:35] <Healot> vasP_L, google for 'bootpart', dl and run it...
[05:36] <redguy|work> southern: man nmap perhaps?
[05:36] <amphi> vasP_L: the moral of the story is clearly "don't install xp' ;)
[05:36] <amphi> vasP_L: no, grub
[05:36] <Angel_Dex> can anyone provide me with libmp3lame.so For Exporting MP3s with audacity>?
[05:36] <vasP_L> Healot, done it, its actually for my friend so I'll do it later thanx
[05:36] <mustard5> ailean, I would say winetools is not an option for you at this moment then...they may be at that 'incompatible' stage again
[05:36] <vasP_L> amphi, cant inizialize ubuntu, how to reinstall grub?
[05:36] <a2xm> hi all, I've install and setup SWAT for managing samba. but I still didn't get anything from httlp://localhost:901
[05:36] <ailean> mustard5, it might be the only option
[05:36] <ailean> mustard5, i.e. removing the wine i have
[05:37] <toby> theres no l in http
[05:37] <amphi> vasP_L: boot off some live cd, mount your linux / somewhere, chroot to it, and run grub-install
[05:37] <Angel_Dex> can anyone provide me with libmp3lame.so For Exporting MP3s with audacity>?
[05:37] <redguy|work> toby: depends on how you spell it :-)
[05:37] <vasP_L> amphi, thanx will try that if bootpart fails
[05:37] <ailean> Angel_Dex, you were heard
[05:37] <toby> it is only http or https
[05:37] <amphi> vasP_L: at least that's how I've always done it; there may be a better way(tm)
[05:38] <Angel_Dex> ailean oks
[05:38] <Healot> i rather not install grub onto my master boot record...
[05:38] <Healot> i love nt loader :)
[05:38] <jetscreamer> Bladedge: i don't have wireless so i can't help much sorry
[05:38] <ailean> Angel_Dex, looking now
[05:38] <jetscreamer> you can use the nt loader to boot linux
[05:38] <Angel_Dex> ailean many thanks
[05:39] <Healot> Bladedge, check the manufacturer site.... check out if there any driver for linux released?
[05:39] <Silivrenion> aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ::rips cds into shreds::
[05:39] <abhinav12383> amphi:sorry i miswrote. i have a wireless lan card but not enabled.
[05:39] <pete__> !botsnack
[05:39] <ubotu> :)
[05:39] <Healot> or use ndiswrapper... or last resort, buy Linux-compatible card....
[05:39] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, did you just install lame from repositories?
[05:39] <jetscreamer> Bladedge: you need to know the model, or chipset of the thingy
[05:39] <ConfidentiaL> What is the "copy" command in linux?
[05:39] <jetscreamer> cp
[05:40] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 Nope didnt know boot it
[05:40] <amphi> abhinav12383: perhaps try enabling it
[05:40] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, I've been through this myself with Audacity...I remember it being troublesome
[05:41] <Healot> Bladedge, use ndiswrapper. and install the windows XP driver with it (ndiswrapper).. or last resort, buy Linux-compatible card....
[05:41] <Angel_Dex> ok
[05:41] <ufo> funny thing this xgl :)
[05:41] <Bladedge> jetscreamer: its an ovislink
[05:41] <Bladedge> no linux driver :(
[05:41] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, I installed lame from the repositories if I recall correctly..then spent ages searching for that file you mentioned above
[05:41] <ailean> Angel_Dex, i can't find that file
[05:41] <Healot> it's closed source, proprietary, can't complaint much, ufo
[05:41] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, I eventually found somthing I think
[05:41] <amphi> ufo: pleasant?
[05:41] <ailean> Angel_Dex, i think you'd be better going through the repo
[05:42] <ConfidentiaL> Can I enable sudo in the file explorer?
[05:42] <Healot> Bladedge, with ndiswrapper, you just use the existing Windows XP driver instead...
[05:42] <ufo> amphi: donno yet?
[05:42] <Angel_Dex> ailean mustard5 in /usr/local/lib ?
[05:42] <ailean> ConfidentiaL, no, but you can run as another user
[05:42] <ailean> k
[05:42] <hugo_> if i've got createt a root-pw: how can i remove it
[05:43] <ConfidentiaL> ailean : well, I need to copy something...
[05:43] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, I wish I could recall but I can't...I use search functions to find it I think
[05:43] <amphi> ufo: does it run on top of an existing X/dri setup, or does it include lowlevel stuff?
[05:43] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 do i only need that lib? or do i need to install everything lame for it too?
[05:43] <ailean> Angel_Dex, no it's not there
[05:43] <Angel_Dex> cuz it sounds like just the lib is needed
[05:44] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, try just installing liblame0...see how you go
[05:44] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 ok
[05:44] <mod^_> how do I disallow other people listing folders in /home?
[05:44] <ConfidentiaL> How do I copy from my home folder?
[05:44] <jetscreamer> chown
[05:44] <ailean> ConfidentiaL, sudo konqueror
[05:44] <amphi> hugo_: man usermod
[05:44] <jetscreamer> 600 perhaps
[05:44] <ailean> ConfidentiaL, that gives you root access graphically
[05:45] <amphi> ConfidentiaL: cp -a /home/foo somewhere
[05:45] <pete__> Humanistic psychology is a school of psychology that emerged in the 1950s in reaction to both behaviorism and psychoanalysis
[05:45] <amphi> ConfidentiaL: n/m, missed the from
[05:45] <jetscreamer> Mr.T uses linux
[05:45] <mod^_> with chmod 700
[05:45] <mod^_> I can't login
[05:46] <amphi> pete__: what of it?
[05:46] <mod^_> I get that "Could not chdir to home directory"
[05:46] <mod^_> "Permission denied"
[05:46] <pete__> amphi: i pasted in wrong window ;-P
[05:46] <hugo_> there's no information about removing root account
[05:46] <amphi> pete__: heh
[05:46] <jetscreamer> try chmod +x /home/user
[05:46] <mod^_> /user ?
[05:47] <jetscreamer> your username
[05:47] <jordo23> Anyone know where I can get the right .deb file for Azureus (and no, the link on the wiki does not work) for Breezy?
[05:47] <Healot> jordo23, there isn;'t any
[05:47] <pete__> jordo23: it's easy just to download it off the site, it doesn't need to be installed
[05:47] <mustard5> hugo_, I think its  sudo passwd root -l
[05:48] <jetscreamer> i'd go with 744 on the dir and 644 on the files, or 600 if you want
[05:48] <Healot> azureus is a java file...
[05:48] <Healot> you don't need to install it really, ready to run, with JRE
[05:48] <jordo23> Healot: There are .deb packages for Azureus....
[05:48] <CarlFK> arg... ok, take 2: how do I stop X?
[05:48] <ablomen> jordo23: like people said, its easy to install but its verry unstable, atleast for amd64 version
[05:48] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 no luck searching for it
[05:48] <mustard5> hugo_, yeah..this is it    sudo passwd -l root
[05:48] <jetscreamer> mod^_: the dirs have to be 7, or +x, or they can't be navigated
[05:48] <Healot> if there is any,. you wouldn't ask right?
[05:49] <BlueEagle> I am having some problems with raid. the /proc/mdstat and fdisk -l can be seen on http://pastebin.com/566943. fdisk -l refers to a /dev/md0p1 but no such node exists. What am I missing here?
[05:49] <jordo23> Healot: That's how I installed it the first time....but for some reason it's gone...
[05:49] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, I've been googling in your absence...no luck yet..
[05:49] <bubba_> Hi, I have a strange wifi issue (my device is detected, it shows up in network config, but it wont find any wireless networks.
[05:49] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 many thanks i think ill search that folder thing
[05:49] <bubba_> I did try putting in my essid (even though its broadcasted.
[05:49] <hugo_> yeah you're right
[05:49] <Healot> yeah, and you should know how did you install it in the first place
[05:49] <CarlFK> telinit 1 did it, but that dropped my ssh connection too, which is bad
[05:50] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 TT_TT nothing
[05:50] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, if you look through the description of the package it might tell you where it installed it
[05:50] <Angel_Dex> oks
[05:50] <BlueEagle> carlfk: As a general rule: NEVER execute commands whos effects you do not understand. Ofcourse telinit 1 will drop you ssh connection.
[05:50] <bubba_> sorry... just read the room title... off to find #ubuntu+1
[05:51] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, bingo..found a link :)
[05:51] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98302&highlight=libmp3lame.so
[05:51] <Healot> anyways, jordo23, direct link to az for linux, http://azureus.sourceforge.net/howto_linux.php
[05:51] <CarlFK> BlueEagle: so how do I stop X?
[05:51] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 =o
[05:51] <BlueEagle> carlfk: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:52] <silvioaparigi> just to try
[05:52] <Healot> he should stop the login manager instead, yeah that was what I am talking about...
[05:52] <CarlFK> BlueEagle: "GNOME Display Manager not running"
[05:52] <Healot> stop the X server...
[05:52] <Healot> CarlFK, check out what display manager did you run...
[05:52] <BlueEagle> carlfk: how did you start x? Are you using kubuntu?
[05:53] <Healot> it's either gdm, kdm, or xdm
[05:53] <CarlFK> currently icewm
[05:53] <Healot> them xdm
[05:53] <paxmaster> in the scp command when I use the wild card * how can I not copy file that i have (like not over right it just pass the next file)
[05:54] <Ng> paxmaster: use rsync :)
[05:54] <Healot> ps and grep the dm seems tedious :)
[05:54] <CarlFK> "/etc/init.d/xdm: No such file or directory"
[05:54] <BlueEagle> carlfk: how did you start x? Are you using kubuntu?
[05:54] <Healot> then, try kdm, CarlFK
[05:54] <paxmaster> well I am try to backup with ssh keys
[05:54] <CarlFK> I booted.  no ubuntu-lite
[05:54] <paxmaster> using cron jobs
[05:55] <CarlFK> no kdm either
[05:55] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 Bwahaha! i found it! thank you thank you thank you
[05:55] <paxmaster> if i use rsync it will prompt for the password
[05:55] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, :)
[05:55] <Healot> a different display manager then...
[05:56] <setuid> Why does Ubuntu insist on making incorrect partitions?
[05:56] <BlueEagle> carlfk: ps aux|grep dm    <= what does that give you in form of /usr/sbun/*dm ?
[05:56] <setuid> "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary"
[05:56] <Healot> CarlFK, do 'ps | grep dm', display manager should has *dm as its name
[05:56] <setuid> I get that for all 3 partitions
[05:56] <pete__> hey, does foobar2000 have a linux version?
[05:56] <BlueEagle> sbin*
[05:57] <Healot> setuid, set your disk to LBA mode first
[05:57] <Healot> don't choose auto, large or chs... LBA....
[05:57] <meisam> hi
[05:57] <setuid> Healot: set it where?
[05:57] <BlueEagle> setuid: bios
[05:57] <setuid> BlueEagle: Not an option
[05:57] <bushito> do Gnome support real rtansparency?? =O
[05:57] <Healot> that's before installing ubuntu, BIOS where else, setuid
[05:57] <setuid> BlueEagle: This is a brand-new Thinkpad, and it worked great with Debian
[05:58] <setuid> Healot: See above, LBA is not an option in the BIOS
[05:58] <BlueEagle> setuid: You have got no option for setting the mode of the disk to LBA in the bios? o.O
[05:58] <setuid> It probably does it automagically
[05:58] <setuid> BlueEagle: Nope, its pretty new, BIOS is current.
[05:58] <setuid> This was never a problem before, with Stable or Unstable, only started when I moved to Ubuntu
[05:58] <setuid> Same hardware, same disk
[05:58] <BlueEagle> setuid: Who made that bios and who can I hire to have them assasinated?
[05:58] <Healot> it is set to Auto right?
[05:59] <setuid> Healot: There is no setting for it, anywhere, in the bios
[05:59] <Healot> it's not really ubuntu;s fault
[05:59] <ufo> it quite unstable the compiz and xgl
[05:59] <clusty> hello
[05:59] <CarlFK> ps aux |grep dm  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9128
[05:59] <setuid> Healot: I disagree, its the only variable changed here
[05:59] <meisam> guys now i havin windows and ubuntu together..i wanna install a new ubuntu...what should ido?
[05:59] <BlueEagle> carlfk: /etc/init.d/wdm stop
[06:00] <Healot> setuid, there is a setup switch... during the installation... i think there is somethign about thinkpad hardware
[06:00] <yaFoo> hi
[06:00] <Healot> checkout the switch, press F<something>
[06:00] <CarlFK> yipee!  thanks BlueEagle
[06:00] <mustard5> meisam, you want to install over the old ubuntu?
[06:00] <BlueEagle> carlfk: that was the only *dm running, wasn't it?
[06:00] <Healot> wdm....
[06:00] <setuid> Healot: Well, I'm noit about to go reinstalling now. Its been running fine for a week, all configured up, everything seems to work, but now when I did an 'fdisk -l /dev/hda', it shows this crap.
[06:00] <Healot> huh
[06:00] <kc1933> question: is there any simple program available for Ubuntu that can copy from my scanner to my printer?
[06:00] <clusty> i have a problem with using sshfs: when i do sshfs blahh@host.com somefolder i get fuse: failed to exec fusermount: Permission denied
[06:00] <meisam> mustard5 no removing this current one and installing another new one
[06:01] <Healot> sure, it doesn;t really messed with your data though, setuid
[06:01] <BlueEagle> setuid: If it isn't broken, why are you trying to fix it? o.LO
[06:01] <CarlFK> BlueEagle: yes
[06:01] <jetscreamer> actually, lba 'can' be an option in the bios
[06:01] <setuid> BlueEagle: Because it *IS* broken
[06:01] <Healot> who the hell use wdm...
[06:01] <setuid> jetscreamer: "can", but isn't.
[06:01] <shiar> hi. does anyone know how to get Arabic script properly displayed on Ubuntu 5.10?
[06:01] <BlueEagle> setuid: "Its been running fine for a week, all configured up, everything seems to work"
[06:01] <mustard5> meisam, I think we are talking about the same thing
[06:01] <BlueEagle> setuid: That doesn't sound like a broken box to me
[06:01] <meisam> mustard5 ok
[06:01] <shiar> i have installed xfonts-intl-arabic and ttf-kacst and rebuilt cache files, yet the browser isn't displaying arabic site well (the font is fucked) and other progs (open office for examp) doen't display arabic at all
[06:01] <meisam> mustard5 can u help me
[06:02] <Healot> or change the option of the kernel, with lba switch or something, in your grub setting...
[06:02] <mustard5> meisam, I would think that you just do a normal install
[06:02] <tombs> hi all
[06:02] <jetscreamer> also, i read about how some partitioners do not align the partitons to the sectors or tracks
[06:02] <jetscreamer> but that's all i know
[06:02] <mustard5> meisam, its going to format the old ubuntu install anyway
[06:02] <Healot> i had that all along, but since i set my disk to LBA (permanent, not Auto)
[06:02] <meisam> mustard5 how to format in a way not disturbing the windows
[06:03] <Healot> it doesn't inherit that problem no more
[06:03] <jetscreamer> imo windows logical disk manager is one of those that don't
[06:03] <mustard5> meisam, just be sure what partition you have ubuntu on before the instal
[06:03] <jetscreamer> but i'm not sure
[06:03] <meisam> mustard5 any especial way
[06:03] <mustard5> meisam, do you know which drive ubuntu is on and which one windows is on?
[06:03] <meisam> mustard5 yes i suppose
[06:03] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 How Do i use my smart monitoring crap on my HD?
[06:03] <Pablo> o.O
[06:04] <jjjjjjj> I am reading /etc/vsftpd.conf and it says #Example config file /etc/vsftpd.conf  Is this just an example or the real thing? tia
[06:04] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, I don't know really
[06:04] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 PS i got it working and made a MP3 of my HD clicking
[06:04] <Angel_Dex> XD
[06:04] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, hehe
[06:04] <Josh43> Can anyone tell me how to have the "disks manager" in Dapper spit out all the mounted drives to /etc/fstab?
[06:04] <meisam> mustard5 then?
[06:04] <setuid> Can someone give me an example of the syntax for lba/lba32 in grub's menu.lst? I just tried both (exactly how they are on a system running lilo here), and grub rejects them
[06:04] <jjjjjjj> cuz i can connect from a windows pc on the lan but no internet access
[06:04] <Angel_Dex> Anyone at all know how to use the smart thing on my HD?
[06:05] <jjjjjjj> yes port 21 is forwarded on the router
[06:05] <mustard5> meisam, well when you install, choose manual partitioning....and then choose the partition that has your old ubuntu on it
[06:05] <Healot> smart thing on your HD, ?
[06:05] <mustard5> meisam, did you have any problems last time you installed?
[06:05] <Josh43> jjjjjjj: are you using Passive mode from outside the network?
[06:05] <meisam> mustard5 last was my first time even touching the ubuntu
[06:05] <Angel_Dex> Healot the SMART diagnostic thing
[06:05] <jodanlime> I reinstalled ubuntu, and everything is ok, but last time I had my home directory on my desktop, and now it wont let me do that, do I need to be root or am I just doing something wrong?
[06:05] <meisam> mustard5 but no problem i faced
[06:05] <clusty> any1 :-D
[06:06] <clusty> SSFS
[06:06] <mustard5> meisam, so what is leading to install again?
[06:06] <jjjjjjj> not sure what that is exactly josh
[06:06] <Healot> well, type it in CAPITAL... smart and SMART are way different in meaning :)
[06:06] <Josh43> jodanlime: middle-mouse-drag your home folder to the desktop, and create a link
[06:06] <jjjjjjj> i am using ie to ftp://myip
[06:06] <Angel_Dex> Healot XP sorry
[06:06] <Josh43> jjjjjjj: tools > internet options > advanced: use Passive mode
[06:06] <butchiebags> hello, does anyone else havea problem in ubuntu where firefox just closes at random?
[06:07] <Josh43> butchiebags: Only when it crashes ;)
[06:07] <mustard5> butchiebags, in the past I had it with java sometimes
[06:07] <defrysk> butchiebags, in breezy ?
[06:07] <butchiebags> haha what is that supposed to mean...
[06:07] <greenpenguin13> i have a problem with firefox where it hangs the computer randomly
[06:07] <butchiebags> well i'm juts going to any site an it just closes with no explanation
[06:07] <im_ka> greenpenguin13, is it a specific website?
[06:07] <Wenderlan> exists some applicatory one that it the same makes work that publishing of the office?
[06:07] <mustard5> meisam, why are you reinstalling if you don't mind me asking?
[06:08] <greenpenguin13> im_ka: any website
[06:08] <Josh43> butchiebags: try uninstall/reinstall from syanptic, or try installing 1.5
[06:08] <butchiebags> well i went to creative.com and acidplanet.com and it shut down i think it also id it with gmail... thast about all i've tried so far...
[06:08] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 wanna hear my HD?
[06:08] <meisam> mustard5 i dun really know...u know there r some misunderstanding for me over here in ubuntu that no one is helping me...so im just thinking about the new one
[06:08] <im_ka> greenpenguin13, mhhh
[06:08] <defrysk> Josh43, you need a new keyboard :D
[06:08] <mustard5> Angel_Dex, I'm on dialup connection so not really...it would take forever to download :)
[06:08] <Angel_Dex> lol ok
[06:08] <Wenderlan> help me
[06:08] <meisam> mustard5 a new installation would help
[06:08] <Wenderlan> Exists some applicatory one that it the same makes work that publishing of the office?
[06:08] <defrysk> !help
[06:08] <im_ka> greenpenguin13, is firefox upto-date?
[06:08] <Angel_Dex> mustard5 its 128KB in ogg format
[06:08] <greenpenguin13> yes
[06:08] <Josh43> butchiebags: Sounds like your settings or cache or something are corrupt.. you could try running it from a terminal window
[06:08] <jodanlime> Josh43, thanks
[06:08] <jjjjjjj> no josh... no passive mode for ftp
[06:08] <p0windah> anyone setup a page for xgl+compviz ?
[06:09] <butchiebags> ok how do i di thta xD
[06:09] <Josh43> defrysk: I need to replace the batteries in mine ;)
[06:09] <greenpenguin13> this is on a breezy machine
[06:09] <mustard5> meisam, what type of things are you having trouble with?
[06:09] <butchiebags> i'm new to linux here can you tell?
[06:09] <Josh43> jjjjjjj: What, you can't find the option, or it wasn't clicked?
[06:09] <BlueEagle> I am having some problems with raid. the /proc/mdstat and fdisk -l can be seen on http://pastebin.com/566943. fdisk -l refers to a /dev/md0p1 but no such node exists. What am I missing here?
[06:09] <defrysk> some have the wrong flash version installed on their breezy
[06:09] <im_ka> greenpenguin13, check it how much ram it s using with system monitor
[06:09] <mustard5> meisam, you think you might have made some errors and it would be better to start from scratch?
[06:09] <jjjjjjj> not clicked
[06:10] <im_ka> greenpenguin13, it shouldnt lock up
[06:10] <Wenderlan> hallow
[06:10] <Wenderlan> help me
[06:10] <greenpenguin13> im_ka: will do. not my machine, so...
[06:10] <dockane> hi all ... just recognized that my x86 breezy installation does not notify me anymore of update ( i manually did it : apt-get update && apt-get upgrade) ... any idea ?
[06:10] <greenpenguin13> but thanks :)
[06:10] <meisam> mustard5 yesssssssss exactly
[06:10] <im_ka> greenpenguin13, welcome :)
[06:10] <defrysk> !portugal
[06:10] <meisam> mustard5 fantastic
[06:10] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[06:10] <Wenderlan> :(
[06:10] <shiar> PLEASE: does anyone know how to get Arabic script properly displayed on Ubuntu 5.10?
[06:10] <kleinlappies> how can i check if a power surge damaged my partotions?
[06:10] <butchiebags> it would do the same thing iwth firefox when i ws using the live cd too..
[06:10] <Josh43> butchiebags: Everyone is new to linux ;) .. system > administration > synaptic: search for firefox > click > reinstall > apply
[06:10] <butchiebags> oh ok thats not too hard
[06:10] <greenpenguin13> shiar: can't you just install the arabic language packs?
[06:11] <mustard5> meisam, well I can't see how you will have many problems...if you don't feel confident during the install process...then just stop doing the install and come back and ask questions
[06:11] <ailean> ConfidentiaL, did you get that copied?
[06:11] <colm_away> kleinlappies, fsck
[06:11] <Josh43> butchiebags: Or, if you want to find the error: applications > accessories > terminal: type "mozilla-firefox" (no quotes)
[06:11] <butchiebags> ok it's re-installing
[06:11] <shiar> greenpenguin13 <@shiar> [17:01]  i have installed xfonts-intl-arabic and ttf-kacst and rebuilt cache files, yet the browser isn't displaying arabic site well (the font is fucked) and other progs (open office for examp) doen't display arabic at all
[06:11] <Josh43> Can anyone tell me how to have the "disks manager" in Dapper spit out all the mounted drives to /etc/fstab?
[06:11] <meisam> mustard5 so u mean i install it again
[06:12] <mustard5> meisam, yeah..if it makes you feel like your system is 'clean' :)
[06:12] <butchiebags> also whre do i get a codec for playing mp3's?
[06:12] <mustard5> meisam, I know how it feels to muck things up and wonder what might be wrong that you don't know about :D
[06:12] <Josh43> !restrictedformats
[06:12] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:12] <BlueEagle> !info wdm
[06:12] <ubotu> wdm: (WINGs Display Manager - an xdm replacement with a WindowMaker look), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.28-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 389 kB, Installed size: 1236 kB
[06:12] <kleinlappies> dolm_away shot thanks man doing it now but im getting this ...Deleted inode 131667 has zero dtime.  Fix<y>
[06:12] <ConfidentiaL> ailean : yes, i got my ATI driver copied, ran it, rebooted, but now my X-Window system says that the session lasted for less then 10 seconds, and restart itself :S
[06:13] <Josh43> butchie: go to that URL (restricted formats)
[06:13] <greenpenguin13> shiar: have you changed the encoding in firefox?
[06:13] <mustard5> meisam, do you have a windows XP recovery disk?
[06:13] <butchiebags> k
[06:13] <ailean> ConfidentiaL, you want to get yourself a decent card :P
[06:13] <meisam> mustard5 all right...can i ask u how can i come back to u during installation
[06:13] <ConfidentiaL> ailean : so now Im running failsafe terminal...
[06:13] <meisam> mustard5 yes i have
[06:13] <ConfidentiaL> ailean : its a laptop...
[06:13] <meisam> mustard5 coz i have no ubuntu to come up
[06:13] <ailean> ConfidentiaL, just a wee joke
[06:14] <mustard5> meisam, well you can't during the install...I said if you have doubts...stop the install and come back online :)
[06:14] <meisam> mustard5 aha
[06:14] <meisam> mustard5 got it
[06:14] <mustard5> meisam, the only really permanent stage of the install is when you finally decide on which partition to use and tell it to format and install :D
[06:14] <GhostGirl> would i be right in thinking that synaptic downloads binaries precompiled with default options, and if i want any non-default options i should download source and compile it myself?
[06:15] <butchiebags> so what this measn is that i can't run any mp3 files or wma?
[06:15] <setuid> BlueEagle: So what tools can repair this partition mess Ubuntu's fdisk created?
[06:15] <mustard5> meisam, after that its all forward...no looking back :D
[06:15] <meisam> mustard5 is there any guid for partitioning if i wanna go through it now
[06:15] <setuid> GhostGirl: Any application that has its "options" set at compile-time, are broken.
[06:15] <shiar> greenpenguin13: yes, and UTF-8 doesn't display
[06:15] <setuid> "options" are set with configuration files
[06:15] <kleinlappies> well i pressed yes and it went now we will c thans
[06:15] <setuid> butchiebags: You don't "run" mp3 files, you parse or play them
[06:15] <greenpenguin13> hmm
[06:15] <Josh43> butchiebags: nono - you just have to go to that url and follow the instructions for MP3
[06:16] <mustard5> meisam, well its partitioned now...so you don't really need to change anything...maybe you should familiarise yourself with your current partitions and mount points
[06:16] <mustard5> meisam, try looking over you /etc/fstab file
[06:16] <yaFoo> At the university linux computers, pressing the fourth mouse button acts like pressing the third, on my freshly installed ubuntu here at home, the fourth button does nothing, how can I change it so that the fourth button is like the third?
[06:16] <mustard5> meisam, that shows all your currently mounted partitions
[06:16] <spike> wtf, launchpad isnt FLOSS??
[06:16] <mustard5> meisam, it shows their mount points too..you could print it out and use it as a reference
[06:16] <shiar> greenpenguin13: what about other applications?
[06:17] <Josh43> ttfn
[06:17] <mustard5> meisam, if it worries you anyway, then you are best doing some study beforehand
[06:17] <greenpenguin13> shiar: does the language selector show arabic as installed?
[06:17] <butchiebags> ohh
[06:17] <butchiebags> ok
[06:17] <meisam> mustard5 ok see. imagine i wanna install as u r saying..all right?
[06:17] <mustard5> meisam, k
[06:18] <ConfidentiaL> ailean, and the rest of u : After I installed my ATI driver for my laptop, it said to run an aticonfig file. I tried to run it, but it said it dodnt find the file(even tho I did)(I ran as root). So I restarted my system, hoping that it would just work, or maybe start the aticonfig at the startup, but no. When I log into my X-Window system, it says: "session lasted for less then 10 second etc...". I am currently running fail safe termina
[06:18] <ConfidentiaL> l. Any1 know how to fix this?
[06:19] <shiar> greenpenguin13: yes
[06:19] <mustard5> ConfidentiaL, did it say 'kill' in there somwhere?
[06:19] <greenpenguin13> meh :S
[06:20] <ConfidentiaL> mustard5 : in where? the login?
[06:20] <BlueEagle> setuid: Are you asking if there is a nail and hammer to fix the inaccuracy of the saw you used?
[06:20] <mustard5> ConfidentiaL, in the error message
[06:20] <kc1933> question: is there any simple program available for Ubuntu that can copy from my scanner to my printer?
[06:20] <ConfidentiaL> I'll check, brb
[06:20] <mustard5> ConfidentiaL, just curious whether its something I have seen before
[06:21] <Healot> kc1933, scan and print?
[06:21] <meisam> mustard5 sorry got disconnected
[06:21] <Healot> well no :(
[06:21] <mustard5> wb meisam :)
[06:21] <kc1933> Healot: yeah, basically. just a simple program, though
[06:22] <meisam> mustard5 then i should put the ubuntu inside the cd rom
[06:22] <meisam> and restart it
[06:22] <meisam> yes?
[06:22] <mustard5> meisam, yep
[06:22] <meisam> mustard5then i dun wanna reinstall the win...do i have to do so?
[06:22] <motyR> Hi, how do i set the cube effect on compiz?
[06:23] <Healot> kc1933, i think you can use gimp with sane plugin.... scan and print right?
[06:23] <anders__> No kill in there, but it got an error trying to create /dev/X
[06:23] <mustard5> meisam, no..the install disk should detect that windows is installed and add a grub entry for windows when it creates grub..if it doesnt say it has found 'another operating system' when you go to create grub, then you know there is a problem
[06:24] <kc1933> Healot, yes, scan and print. let me check that out
[06:24] <meisam> mustard5 ok...
[06:24] <revmoo> hey, has anyone tried dd flight 4 yet/
[06:24] <meisam> mustard5 can i have my last question?
[06:24] <Healot> well, gimp should has that feature...
[06:24] <mustard5> meisam, you can have as many as you like
[06:24] <meisam> mustard5 thanks...
[06:24] <BlueEagle> mustard5: You playing 20-questions? o.O
[06:24] <mustard5> :)
[06:24] <meisam> mustard5 ok, i wanna check out which partioned i have ubuntu on
[06:24] <kc1933> Healot, I see it. I will try that. Thanks
[06:25] <meisam> mustard5 can u hel me from begining
[06:25] <mustard5> meisam, ok do this in terminal...  sudo fdisk -l\
[06:25] <mustard5> meisam, doh..typo
[06:25] <mustard5> meisam, sudo fdisk -l
[06:25] <BlueEagle> mount |grep /
[06:26] <mustard5> BlueEagle, that too, but I was wanting to show him his windows partition too :)
[06:26] <BlueEagle> how does one limit grep to take " / " (ie / with spaces around it)
[06:26] <anders__> Any1 have a solution to my ATI driver problem?
[06:26] <BlueEagle> mustard5: Ahh, you're being clever. :)
[06:26] <BlueEagle> anders__: I've got one that you don't want. :p
[06:26] <mustard5> meisam, can you see which partition are windows and which are linux now?
[06:27] <mustard5> meisam, write them down....so you can look at it while you install
[06:27] <mustard5> meisam, this one is useful to     cat /etc/fstab
[06:27] <meisam>  mustard5 yes
[06:27] <meisam> i see
[06:27] <ConfidentiaLx> didnt u read my problem?
[06:27] <mustard5> meisam, if you copy down your devices and mountpoints from /etc/fstab  when you are installing you can use it as a reference
[06:27] <Sh4d0x> hey all
[06:28] <ConfidentiaLx> I cant log in now, only with fail safe terminal...
[06:28] <GhostGirl> was what setuid said correct? that anything that needs compile-time options is considered 'broken'
[06:28] <meisam> mustard5 how?
[06:28] <matyy> hey, does someone know where the evolution mail accounts are saved? I installed dapper, I allready copied ~/.evolution and ~/.gconf/apps/.evolution - all the mails and contacts are there, but acoounts + calendar are missing
[06:28] <mustard5> meisam, do this in terminal   cat /etc/fstab
[06:28] <Sh4d0x> i was just wondering, is there a possibiltiy to use quicktime in ubuntu?
[06:28] <mustard5> meisam, you got a printer?
[06:29] <ConfidentiaLx> mustard5 : There was no kill in there, but it got an error trying to create /dev/X
[06:29] <Healot> wait until dapper's final release
[06:29] <meisam> mustard5 i have
[06:29] <mustard5> ConfidentiaL, hmmm...ok..not the same problem I have seen before...
[06:29] <meisam> mustard5 but not working in ubuntu
[06:30] <mustard5> meisam, you can put files from linux to windows?
[06:30] <meisam> mustard5 oh yes
[06:30] <jjjjjjj> something tells me the /etc/vsftpd.conf file isn't being read/used because my ftpd_banner=Welcome Message. is not showing when i login  from the lan on the windows pc.
[06:30] <meisam> muok i got it compeletelystard5
[06:30] <meisam> mustard5 typo
[06:30] <Mordof> what is gam_server?
[06:30] <ConfidentiaLx> Is there any easy way to get ATI drivers to work on linux?
[06:30] <jjjjjjj> "and" no anon login
[06:30] <meisam> mustard5 i got it compeletly
[06:30] <meisam> mustard5 itry
[06:31] <meisam> mustard5 then back to u if any problem
[06:31] <jjjjjjj> yes i've restarted the ftp server
[06:31] <mustard5> meisam, ok do a cat /etc/fstab     then copy and paste to a text file on your desktop...send to windows and print out from windows
[06:31] <meisam> mustard5 sure
[06:31] <Mordof> anyone know what /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server is for?
[06:31] <mustard5> meisam, you can do the same with sudo fdisk -l
[06:31] <mustard5> meisam, anyway...from there you should feel a lot more confident with the actual information right next to you on paper
[06:32] <meisam> mustard5 yes
[06:32] <munzir> Hi, I am missing lots of packages on breezy, should I just wait or report it as a bug? Any place to follow this?
[06:32] <meisam> mustard5 i got it
[06:32] <meisam> mustard5 thanks very much
[06:32] <meisam> mustard5 thank u
[06:32] <mustard5> meisam, good luck
[06:32] <mustard5> meisam, :)
[06:32] <Mordof> anyone?
[06:32] <amphi> heh, Balmer immortalised in "Flying Chair Linux", http://gm2.ath.cx/~gm/fc.html
[06:32] <mustard5> Mordof, no idea unfortunately
[06:33] <Mordof> mustard5, k.. stupid thing was taking up 280mb of ram :S
[06:33] <mustard5> Mordof, yeah?
[06:33] <Mordof> i have no idea what its for
[06:33] <jetscreamer> !find gamin
[06:33] <mustard5> Mordof, I see it pop up in my 'top' command I think sometimes
[06:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'gamin' (4 shown): gamin ;; libgamin-dev ;; libgamin0 ;; python2.4-gamin.
[06:34] <jetscreamer> !info gamin
[06:34] <ubotu> gamin: (File and directory monitoring system), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.1.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[06:34] <Mordof> ohh.. wonder why i have it installed if its optional
[06:34] <jetscreamer> something you installed wanted it
[06:34] <jetscreamer> !info fam
[06:34] <ubotu> fam: (File Alteration Monitor), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.7.0-5ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 252 kB
[06:34] <jetscreamer> there are >1
[06:34] <Mordof> wine possibly?
[06:34] <mustard5> jetscreamer, that makes good sense that answer :)
[06:35] <jetscreamer> maybe... gnome likes it's famine stuff... (punny)
[06:35] <Definity> ubuntu is driving me crazy
[06:35] <jetscreamer> become an ubuntu master
[06:35] <MurraySW> or a l33t haxor
[06:35] <Mordof> jetscreamer, i was playing warcraft 3 over bnet through wine.. maybe that has something to do with it
[06:36] <southern> I have 2 interfaces (eth0 - LAN, eth1 - Internet)
[06:36] <MurraySW> yeah im about to install diablo ii ....i wish blizzard would just port their damn games to linux officially
[06:36] <MurraySW> instead of always having to run them through wine
[06:36] <southern> etc/network/interfaces    what do I have to write to gateway field in eth0??
[06:36] <Mordof> MurraySW, heh, would be nice wouldnt it
[06:36] <Definity> how come everey time i go to take out the WEP key for my eth0 i click ok then go back on it and it back there agian?
[06:36] <Definity> any ideas?
[06:36] <mamefan> eth0 doesn't need a gateway if it's only talking to local network.
[06:37] <Mordof> MurraySW, warcraft 3 is made to run perfectly in opengl though.. its not too bad. i just made a panel icon that when i click it, it takes me right into warcraft 3.. just like double clicking on desktop icon in windows
[06:37] <southern> mamefan: so iptables solves net sharing?
[06:37] <southern> am I right?
[06:37] <MurraySW> Mordof:  That's awesome.  I'll have to do the same for Diablo II.
[06:37] <mamefan> hmm, I don't know iptables.
[06:38] <Mordof> MurraySW, its not too difficult, if you need help let me know
[06:38] <MurraySW> Mordof:  Will do.
[06:38] <Definity> any one know why i can delete the WEP key out of the network settings?
[06:38] <Mordof> heh, yeah i think gam_server is wine.. i stopped it and it opened it back up again
[06:38] <jjjjjjj> doubt it but maybe rebooting the whole pc will do something with my ftp problem. <sigh>
[06:39] <jorgen> can someone please tell me how to add permanent write permission to a shared FAT disk?
[06:39] <mustard5> jorgen, as in mount it at startup with user access?
[06:39] <Mordof> or something that is required.. *shrugs*
[06:39] <jorgen> mustart: yes something like that
[06:40] <mustard5> jorgen, this link will give an example of how to do it...ask questions if it makes no sense to you..
[06:40] <mustard5> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28FAT.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[06:40] <MurraySW> Is it possible to utilize the software in Security Auditor Linux on Ubuntu?  (http://remote-exploit.org/index.php/Auditor_tools)?
[06:41] <d_ding> southern hi, can i help? whats the issue?
[06:41] <mustard5> jorgen, it assumes that you are using /dev/hda1  and the mount point of /media/windows
[06:41] <kleinlappies> can somebody tell me how can i get my tv-out working (ubuntu5.10 with kde)
[06:41] <mustard5> jorgen, but that may not be the case for you
[06:41] <kent> Shouldn't Dapper have a graphical shutdown?  How come I dont get one?
[06:41] <Definity> any one know why i can delete the WEP key that i entered out of the network settings?
[06:41] <Healot> jorgen, on your fstab, add umask=XXXX or ro option to the partition
[06:42] <Healot> oh write permission is rw
[06:43] <SonicYooth> Anyone have a recommendation for the best RSS reader out there for linux?
[06:43] <kuja> Has there been reports of Ubuntu's KDE language packages not showing up in the regional options?
[06:43] <d_ding> I was also looking for an rss reader
[06:44] <d_ding> i found blogbridge
[06:44] <kleinlappies> sonicyooth i use the kde kontact and it is cuite nice
[06:44] <kent> liferia is a good rss-reader.
[06:44] <d_ding> but doenst work
[06:44] <jahraztah> how do you get rythmbox to play mp3s
[06:44] <wastrel> !mp3
[06:44] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:44] <SonicYooth> kleinlappies: thanks man - i'll look into that
[06:44] <d_ding> !rss
[06:44] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, d_ding
[06:44] <kleinlappies> shot
[06:44] <jahraztah> i got the universe repo enabled, i'm currently on dapper
[06:45] <jahraztah> i got audacious to play mp3s
[06:45] <ciccia-88> hi
[06:45] <ciccia-88> all
[06:45] <ciccia-88> -.-
[06:45] <jahraztah> and w32codec for mplayer
[06:45] <d_ding> SonicYooth also try blogbridge
[06:45] <SonicYooth> d_ding: okay will do - thanks :)
[06:45] <kleinlappies> d
[06:45] <jahraztah> but i want this feature in rhythmbox, rhythmbox is able to play mp3 streams
[06:45] <ciccia-88> O.o
[06:45] <wastrel> apt-cache search rss | grep reader
[06:46] <kleinlappies> d_ding thanks for that now i also know i'll give it a bash aswell thanks (but i still like kontact cause its all together)
[06:46] <uppayi> #kerala
[06:46] <mustard5> I tried apt-cache search * | grep rss
[06:46] <mustard5> :)
[06:46] <mustard5> got nothing!
[06:46] <mustard5> hehah
[06:46] <d_ding> :)
[06:46] <jjjjjjj> anyone heard of a user called liable?
[06:47] <wastrel> akregator is apparently a popular kde rss reader thingy
[06:47] <jjjjjjj> he helped me long ago.  maybe on another server.
[06:47] <jorgen> Healot: are you sure, replace 000 by XXXX ?
[06:47] <jahraztah> i got gstreamer0.8-mad and still no mp3 playback
[06:47] <Healot> XXXX any number you want...
[06:47] <Definity> any one know why i can delete the WEP key that i entered out of the network settings?
[06:48] <Healot> XXXX isn't the actually number, just the representation...
[06:48] <kkaisare> j^7: another server? try dalnet or undernet instead...
[06:48] <kent> jahraztah: perhaps you need to restart rhythmbox?
[06:48] <jahraztah> i did
[06:48] <jorgen> it says umask=000, is that ok?
[06:48] <jahraztah> i'm on dapper
[06:49] <mustard5> jorgen, yes
[06:49] <d_ding> jahraztah you need the w32codecs
[06:49] <jahraztah> i have them too
[06:49] <d_ding> hmmmm....
[06:49] <wastrel> Definity:  system > administration > networking
[06:49] <jahraztah> i can play mp3s using audacious or mplayer
[06:49] <jahraztah> but not rhythmbox
[06:50] <d_ding> hmmmm, maybe its not using whatever libraries the other 2 are?
[06:50] <jorgen> i still don't seem to have write persmissions to the disk..
[06:50] <jahraztah> maybe
[06:50] <jahraztah> how do i set it to use those?
[06:50] <wastrel> Definity:  it should also be in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:50] <d_ding> is there a setting somewhere where you can change that?
[06:50] <xxenon> !restrictedformat
[06:50] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, xxenon
[06:50] <mustard5> jorgen, you used the pastebin before?
[06:50] <xxenon> !restricted
[06:50] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:50] <jorgen> nope
[06:50] <xxenon> !freeformats
[06:50] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[06:50] <Definity> il check :) thanks
[06:51] <mustard5> jorgen, open this link in a browser http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:51] <mustard5> jorgen, now in terminal do this    cat /etc/fstab
[06:51] <d_ding> there is a a xine plugin that plays all the stuff
[06:51] <d_ding> its confusing this media stuff
[06:51] <mustard5> jorgen, copy the output to the pastebin..hit send..then show me the URL it creates
[06:51] <jahraztah> i don't see any options to set rhythmbox to use other formats
[06:52] <d_ding> no, there might be a setting to change what it is using to play the files
[06:52] <jahraztah> but rhythmbox uses gstreamer-0.10
[06:52] <jahraztah> maybe i need gstreamer-0.10-mad?
[06:52] <kent> jahraztah: mplayer dont use gstreamer which rhythmbox uses for playing music.   Check if totem (not totem-xine)  can play mp3s, if totem can.. then rhythmbox should aswell
[06:52] <kent> jahraztah: gstreamer-0.10 is for Dapper, do you use Dapper?
[06:53] <jjjjjjj> how can i tell what .conf file is being used for my vsftpd?
[06:53] <jahraztah> yes
[06:53] <jahraztah> i use dapper
[06:53] <jorgen> mustard5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d9130
[06:53] <mustard5> jorgen, thanks
[06:54] <jorgen> np mustard5, I'm the one who to be thankful
[06:54] <kent> jahraztah: then you need 0.10 version for rhythmbox to play mp3.
[06:54] <bluefoxicy> o.o
[06:54] <Demigod> anyone in here who use vmware?
[06:54] <jjjjjjj> cuz what i see in the /etc/vsftpd.conf file don't jive... for example my welcome message is not showing.
[06:54] <ZyntaxError> anyone knows what happens when the sgid bit is set for a folder? what is the difference?
[06:54] <jahraztah> is it in universe?
[06:54] <mustard5> jorgen, do this in terminal   ...
[06:55] <jahraztah> caue i don't see it
[06:55] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~$ glxgears
[06:55] <bluefoxicy> __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 - succeeded
[06:55] <bluefoxicy> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[06:55] <bluefoxicy> I have no 3D  o_o
[06:55] <jjjjjjj> hey demigod.. there is a webinar today on vmware at 11pm pst
[06:55] <mustard5> jorgen, sudo umount /home/jorgen/Felles
[06:55] <d_ding> jjjjjjj try forcing vsftpd to read the config file you see, also check the error logs
[06:55] <jjjjjjj> i use the vmplayer in windows
[06:55] <mustard5> jorgen, any error messages?
[06:55] <Demigod> jjjjjjj hey demigod.. there is a webinar today on vmware at 11pm pst<---- can you give more info about the that please?
[06:55] <jorgen> mustard5, so far so good
[06:56] <mustard5> jorgen, ok now   sudo mount -a
[06:56] <kent> jahraztah: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg  do you have that installed?
[06:56] <jjjjjjj> sure.. gotta check the windows pc
[06:56] <jjjjjjj> brb
[06:56] <ZyntaxError> hey anyone ever used SGID?
[06:56] <mustard5> jorgen, any errors?
[06:56] <jahraztah> yes kent i do have that installed
[06:56] <LjL> is there a way i can make ubuntu use a different framebuffer than vesafb/vga16fb at boot (or, if that's not possible, no framebuffer at all)? i'd like to load my card-specific framebuffer, but the vesa/vga modules cannot be unloaded
[06:56] <kent> jahraztah:  gstreamer0.10-plugins
[06:56] <bluefoxicy> anyone have any ideas on how to get GLX working in Dapper?
[06:56] <Demigod> no problem mate
[06:56] <jjjjjjj> thx d_ding... how do iforce?
[06:56] <drapik> hello there
[06:56] <jahraztah> kent have that too
[06:56] <jorgen> mustard5, no errors, and it also seems I got permission! :)
[06:56] <mustard5> jorgen, yeah?
[06:57] <mustard5> jorgen, I was worried with all the 'extra stuff' you had tacked on the end :)
[06:57] <ejofee> is there any standalone subtitle shower for gnu/linux?
[06:57] <mustard5> jorgen, it would have worked with just the iocharset and umask bits
[06:57] <jorgen> mustard5, yes it works! excellent, so I just had to remount it then, that was all?
[06:57] <comradevik> any way to mount ftp ?
[06:57] <kent> jahraztah: there is no -mad package for gstreamer0.10  I can play mp3 with rhythmbox,  and I use Dapper.  Cant say which package mp3support comes in. :(  perhaps  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base  ?
[06:57] <Sedlav> hey someone can tell me about video codecs for totem (i need to play *.avi
[06:58] <mustard5> jorgen, yep..just umount then mount again
[06:58] <d_ding> jjjjjjj ill get back to you.. just looking at one
[06:58] <mustard5> jorgen, it should work at startup now
[06:58] <drapik> i've just started using linux (ubuntu) and i don't know how to install any program ...
[06:58] <jahraztah> i have that too
[06:58] <Muttley_> hi
[06:58] <wastrel> ubotu tell drapik about synaptic
[06:58] <linkd> comradevik: mount ftp? like u mount drives? not that im aware of
[06:58] <jorgen> mustard5, great! thanks alot!!! have a great day!
[06:58] <mustard5> jorgen, you have that guide to work with now if you have trouble :)
[06:58] <mustard5> jorgen, np :)
[06:58] <wastrel> drapik:  synaptic is how you install software on ubuntu
[06:58] <comradevik> linkd yeah
[06:58] <LjL> linkd, comradevik: yes,there is one
[06:59] <Sedlav> hey someone can tell me about video codecs for totem (i need to play *.avi
[06:59] <comradevik> there is something like ftpfs but its old and doesnt work anymore
[06:59] <comradevik> Ljl what
[06:59] <LjL> linkd, comradevik: don't remember the name right now, but try "apt-cache show lufs-utils", though that's not the one i had in mind
[06:59] <Mordof> Sedlav, w32codecs
[06:59] <wastrel> Sedlav:  on breezy you should install totem-xine   - totem-gstreamer doesn't work well
[06:59] <jahraztah> Sedlav: Try getting w32codec and then install package totem-xine
[06:59] <Mordof> !tell Sedlav about RestrictedFormats
[06:59] <comradevik> linux in userspace
[06:59] <comradevik> ?
[07:00] <LjL> comradevik, linkd: http://ftpfs.sourceforge.net/ (so, i guess it really is what i had in mind)
[07:00] <Demigod> the easy way to get w32 codecs and install its to run Automatix
[07:00] <Demigod> ;)
[07:00] <LjL> comradevik: yeah, have you read the description?
[07:00] <Sedlav> ok  tx
[07:00] <comradevik> yeah i read that but i can't get it to work in ubuntu
[07:00] <LjL> comradevik: well, i haven't tried. let me try
[07:01] <wastrel> !automatix
[07:01] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:01] <jjjjjjj> demigod: http://vmware.rsc02.net/servlet/website/ResponseForm?OtPpExX_3LIpgHk_.40hktU
[07:01] <Demigod> Sedlav hey someone can tell me about video codecs for totem (i need to play *.avi<---- install Automatix its very easy to use ;)
[07:01] <Demigod> cheers jjjjjjjjj
[07:01] <Sedlav> tx
[07:01] <jjjjjjj> np... the least i can do on this channel.  just a newbie myself
[07:01] <wastrel> Demigod:  automatix can break your system, they don't want you recommending it in here
[07:02] <jahraztah> kent i figured it out, you need the gstreamer-0.10-ugly package
[07:02] <GTX> How do I move all files in ftp with *.png to a folder on ftp called linux
[07:02] <GTX> ftp command.
[07:02] <Christian> is there a way to search for  irc channels?
[07:02] <Demigod> i use automatix
[07:02] <Xylene> type /list keyword
[07:02] <Demigod> and runs perfec ;)
[07:02] <Xylene> nevermind that apparently doesn't work in xchat
[07:02] <Demigod> if you use breeze version its all coool
[07:03] <linkd> Xylene: i think you mean /list pattern. such that /list *ubuntu*
[07:03] <LjL> comradevik: not much luck - it appears the LUFS kernel module isn't included in the standard kernel, and would have to be compiled manually
[07:03] <kent> jahraztah: oh,  great! :)
[07:03] <linkd> but im not sure if this IRCd supports such searches
[07:03] <peterrus__> wow, i managed to get on irc :D
[07:03] <Christian>  /list pattern
[07:03] <Christian> just type that?
[07:03] <alteroo>  /list *ubuntu*
[07:03] <LjL> comradevik: on the other hand, i think FUSE (another userspace-fs program) *is* included, and i know it can be used together with KDE kioslaves (and possibly Gnome VFS, too, i don't know). let me look at it
[07:03] <comradevik> LjL thats where i got stuck
[07:03] <ubuntu_> lol
[07:03] <peterrus__> can someone hear me (or whatever...)
[07:03] <Christian>  /list *ubuntu*
[07:04] <linkd> peterrus__: yes
[07:04] <Xylene> no /list commands seem to work for me in xchat
[07:04] <Demigod> jjjjjjj<---- what vmware version do you use?
[07:04] <Xylene> i'm used to ol mirc, heh
[07:04] <mae> how can i add windows .fon format fonts to gnome
[07:04] <peterrus__> finally
[07:04] <jjjjjjj> d_ding:  can my msg me?  i'm going back down to man pages and will be gone for what could be a long long time.  thx!
[07:04] <peterrus__> why is everything i type in gray?
[07:04] <mae> i tried dropping it in ~/.fonts but it doesn't pick it up in apps
[07:04] <jjjjjjj> demigod:  just the free vmplayer
[07:04] <linkd> Xylene: xchat as a lil list interface thing if u go thru the menus. u can search the list in that
[07:04] <Christian> where do i type /list commands at?
[07:04] <wastrel> Xylene:  list output goes in the server tab
[07:04] <Xylene> i don't need it, heh, someone else asked for it
[07:04] <linkd> peterrus__: so you know what u typed
[07:04] <Xylene> ah you're right
[07:04] <peterrus__> ah lol :p okay
[07:04] <Xylene> my bad
[07:04] <linkd> Christian: status or channel windows
[07:05] <GTX> How do I move all files in ftp with *.png to a folder on ftp called linux
[07:05] <mustard5> Christian, you on xchat?
[07:05] <Demigod> ahhh ok
[07:05] <[blah] > I'm trying to open an mpeg with Totem and its telling me that it can't find the decoder.  How do I install it?
[07:05] <Christian> yes windows xp xchat
[07:05] <peterrus__> window$ ehw :p
[07:05] <Christian> :(
[07:05] <mustard5> Christian, hmm...ok..well I'm not sure if that has the same options...but you can get a Channel List in my 'Windows' menu :)
[07:06] <GTX> How do I move all files in ftp with *.png to a folder on ftp called linux, I use the normal ftp command.
[07:06] <Christian> ok go tit
[07:06] <Christian> lol it
[07:06] <mustard5> hehehe
[07:06] <serpa> Does anybody know how start up XMMS if it doesn't start when you click on it from the Applications menu?  Is there some sort of command I can use in the terminal to do so?
[07:06] <Christian> my bad :)
[07:06] <linkd> serpa: why type "xmms"
[07:06] <linkd> "*just
[07:07] <mustard5> serpa, in terminal type   xmms
[07:08] <serpa> nothings happening when I type "xmms" and "XMMS"
[07:08] <shanonx> if i have a driver i need to update what is the command line way of getting a .run file to activate?
[07:08] <mustard5> serpa, have you got it installed?
[07:08] <[blah] > serpa, are you sure it is installed?
[07:08] <bill> i'm trying to build CVS emacs with gtk, but I get "Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[07:08] <bill> "
[07:08] <LjL> comradevik: not much luck there either, the kio/fuse gateway isn't incldued in ubuntu
[07:08] <mustard5> serpa, try sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:08] <amphi> GTX: you can't with ftp I don't think; use lftp or ncftp perhaps
[07:08] <Christian> how can  i add a channel to my favorites list?
[07:08] <RichART1> fukk ubuntu!
[07:08] <comradevik> ah
[07:08] <amphi> bill: install the dev [ackage
[07:08] <mustard5> RichART1, watch the language please
[07:08] <amphi> er, package
[07:09] <RichART1> ok, just wondering if anybody was watching
[07:09] <RichART1> heh
[07:09] <serpa> xmms is installed, I've been using it for the past month.  Usually when this happens, a simple reboot solves the problem, but I got stuff downloading at the moment, so I don't want to reboot.
[07:09] <Christian> does xchat have a fav list?
[07:09] <[blah] > serpa, system -> administration -> synaptic check your installed packages
[07:09] <ZyntaxError> Anyone knows what happens to a folder whit the SGID bit set?
[07:09] <wastrel> what's the trick to opening cups for IPP printing from my LAN?  i've got   Allow From 192.168.2.*   in cupsd.conf,  Port 631   in the Listen section,  but my laptop won't print...
[07:09] <jjjjjjj> hang in there RichART
[07:09] <linkd> ZyntaxError: nothing afaik.
[07:10] <ZyntaxError> afaik?
[07:10] <bill> amphi, thanks.  can that coexist with the already-installed gtk?
[07:10] <linkd> ZyntaxError: as far as i know
[07:10] <ZyntaxError> well something must happen
[07:10] <LjL> comradevik: i've got it to work
[07:10] <ZyntaxError> :D
[07:10] <jjjjjjj> don't be a wishy-washy church hopper.
[07:10] <LjL> comradevik: i mean lufs
[07:10] <comradevik> how
[07:10] <linkd> ZyntaxError: on a program tho it would mean "if this program is ran, its ran with root permissions for that group"
[07:10] <LjL> comradevik: install "lufs-source"
[07:10] <shanonx> what do I type to install a .RUN file?
[07:10] <MurraySW> how do I get a /list on this server...lol server load is too heavy
[07:11] <wastrel> ZyntaxError:  when that folder is accessed, the process runs with the gropu of the folder, not the group of the user
[07:11] <eedge> hey, running ubuntu live cd to try and restore grub to my mbr...
[07:11] <comradevik> LjL huh?
[07:11] <amphi> bill: yeah, it's just the headers and so on, libgtk2-dev or something
[07:11] <LjL> comradevik: type "sudo aptitude install lufs-source"
[07:11] <eedge> when I type grub in term to try and get the grub promt
[07:11] <eedge> prompt even
[07:11] <eedge> it says grub not found.
[07:11] <bill> amphi, cool, emacs seems to be configuring at least :)
[07:11] <eedge> command not found even
[07:11] <ZyntaxError> wastrel: thanks!
[07:11] <amphi> bill: you may need glib2-dev, pango-dev, atk-dev... dunno
[07:11] <eedge> what do I do to get grub prompt from the live cd.
[07:11] <LjL> comradevik: when that's done, type "sudo module-assistant"
[07:12] <mustard5> eedge, you working from a HOW TO ?
[07:12] <eedge> yes i am
[07:12] <comradevik> Ljl then ?
[07:13] <shanonx> does no one know how to run a .RUN file from command prompt?
[07:13] <MurraySW> Question:  I'm running a Toshiba Sattelite A65 (3.2GHz) laptop....Ubuntu scales the processor to 1.86GHz....How do I change this and other hardware laptop settings?
[07:13] <trooper00> shanonx: i am pretty sure that is just a script. should be able to 'sh ./FILE', etc
[07:14] <trooper00> shanonx: or set the permissions executable and just run it like a command ./FILE
[07:14] <eedge> mustard, i am using a how to
[07:14] <amphi> shanonx: file foo.RUN would tell you what it is
[07:14] <mustard5> eedge, k..I'm reading it now...but its obviously not working for you :)
[07:15] <eedge> which one are you reading, there was a whole bunch :P
[07:15] <eedge> lol
[07:15] <novasilver> hi.
[07:15] <mustard5> eedge, I'm on the ubuntu wiki HOW TO
[07:15] <joelbryan> is 20060217.2 the same with flight-cd 4?
[07:15] <novasilver> I have a package request to do
[07:16] <kleinlappies> hi can somebody tell me what is my periodic command sheduler
[07:16] <mustard5> eedge, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:16] <novasilver> where should I ask for it
[07:16] <amphi> kleinlappies: crond and/or atd
[07:16] <RichART1> ::jjjjjjj:: funny man, vf
[07:16] <joelbryan> is 20060217.2 the same with flight-cd 4?
[07:16] <kleinlappies> amphi mine fails when i reboot
[07:17] <comradevik> LjL i did build
[07:17] <eedge> mustard5, yeah, theres lots of howtos on that page
[07:17] <eedge> none of them seem to work for me :)
[07:17] <jip__> hi where do I put firmware for dvb in dapper?
[07:17] <mustard5> eedge, you tried the super grub boot disk?
[07:17] <KarolisP> hello, ppl i wanted to ask if its a good idea (if possible at all) to have thunderbird from ubuntu and fro mwindows use same profile that is stored on fat32 partition?
[07:17] <eedge> I'm trying some from the debian lists.
[07:17] <eedge> yeah, I have...
[07:17] <eedge> didn't work :S
[07:18] <mustard5> eedge, you tried the installation disk method?
[07:18] <eedge> I did automatic etc, and it just couldn't find it.
[07:18] <joelbryan> i kept disconnecting in my dhcp,
[07:18] <amphi> kleinlappies: what happens if you do /etc/init.d/cron restart ?
[07:18] <bill> why does gcc automatically install gcc-4.0?  isn't that still under testing?
[07:18] <eedge> yes, installation disk method was the most useless.
[07:18] <amphi> kleinlappies: prepending 'sudo', of course
[07:18] <mustard5> eedge, :)
[07:18] <eedge> I'm tempted to just delete the partitions and reinstall now.
[07:18] <eedge> been trying to fix it for days.
[07:18] <eedge> lol
[07:19] <kleinlappies> man now it says ok
[07:19] <kleinlappies> thanks
[07:19] <ubuntu_> helo
[07:19] <joelbryan> anyone has this same problem?, I have a dec tulip ethernet card that keeps disconnecting from the dhcp server. I replug to make the internet works again. does anyone knows how to solve this?
[07:19] <shanonx> how do I run a program as super user?
[07:19] <mustard5> eedge, I've seen a different installation method
[07:20] <eedge> if you could dig it up I'd be most obliged.
[07:20] <jip__> shanonx sudo
[07:20] <eedge> I was thinking about creating a bootable grub cd from a bootable floppy disk grub img.
[07:20] <mustard5> eedge, I'll see if I can find it
[07:20] <KenSentMe> is there anyone here using rosetta@home?
[07:20] <eedge> (no floppy disk drive)
[07:20] <bluefoxicy> hmm
[07:20] <Mordof> anyone know a way to make rhythmbox not show up in the app list panel or the workspace manager?
[07:21] <kleinlappies> the reason i asek is cause we have had a few power shutdowns and my pc is so slow and i can't get the problem. but thanks on the periodic command sheduler
[07:21] <eedge> hopefully then I could get to the grub prompt and reinstall it, but I can't seem to get to the prompt from the 5.0.4 live cd.
[07:21] <Mordof> but to only show up in the tray
[07:21] <bluefoxicy> in dapper it seems that with glx successfully loaded I still can't create a double buffered visual
[07:21] <wastrel> what's the trick to opening cups for IPP printing from my LAN?  i've got   Allow From 192.168.2.*   in cupsd.conf,  Port 631   in the Listen section,  but my laptop won't print...
[07:21] <rohan> heya, i've got some problems with dvd playback... it's really sketchy. Any tips?
[07:22] <ubuntu_> hallo
[07:22] <shanonx> is there a way to login as super user to do some commands other than typing SUDO before everything?
[07:22] <ubuntu_> ik ben simontje
[07:22] <TomaszD> rohan: you have to enable DMA.
[07:22] <eedge> I could try with a knoppix cd, but I only have a german install.
[07:22] <ubuntu_> ik zit in het latijnse
[07:22] <wastrel> shanonx:  sudo su -
[07:22] <eedge> and I don't speed german.
[07:22] <eedge> lol
[07:22] <eedge> spee
[07:22] <TomaszD> rohan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[07:22] <rohan> TomaszD, DMA???
[07:22] <eedge> speak even
[07:22] <ubuntu_> kist
[07:22] <ubuntu_> wuk zeg je
[07:22] <KenSentMe> ubuntu_, engels aub
[07:22] <mustard5> eedge, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[07:22] <jip__> shanony su (swith user) and you get a root shell
[07:22] <ubuntu_> go mo vwors
[07:23] <ubuntu_> ik zn ier den boas
[07:23] <joelbryan> i keep disconnecting within several seconds of internet, i tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, ifdoen eth0 and ifup eth0, but none seems to work.. I even installed network manager
[07:23] <LjL> comradevik: sorry, i was away for some minutes
[07:23] <wastrel> !fi
[07:23] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[07:23] <LjL> comradevik: you built and installed?
[07:23] <eedge> mustard5, thank you, i'll try it now :)
[07:23] <comradevik> yes
[07:23] <comradevik> i get an error when i try to connect to an ftp tho
[07:23] <mustard5> eedge, good luck..and be careful ;)
[07:23] <wastrel> that wasn't finish
[07:23] <wastrel> but i don't know what it was
[07:23] <wastrel> heh
[07:24] <LjL> comradevik: then try "sudo lufsmount ftpfs://ftp.debian.org /any/directory", and then "ls /any/directory"
[07:24] <amphi> joelbryan: how do you configure the iface? dhcp?
[07:24] <eedge> mustard5, thats the same as the install one on the wiki - i couldn't get it to work last time.
[07:24] <LjL> comradevik: (the "/any/directory" must exist of course ;)
[07:24] <Mordof> there we go :) got everything configured the way i want
[07:24] <mustard5> eedge, the one in the first post is different
[07:24] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone help me to install my digital camera?
[07:25] <amphi> _everything_? ;)
[07:25] <mustard5> eedge, the one in the second post is the same as the wiki
[07:25] <joelbryan> amphi: yes
[07:25] <eedge> oh, well I've tried the first post one then :)
[07:25] <eedge> heh.
[07:25] <mustard5> eedge, k
[07:25] <amphi> joelbryan: what happens if you do ifdown eth0/ifconfig eth0 down and then dhclient eth0?
[07:25] <comradevik> it says i dont have kernel lufs support
[07:25] <mustard5> eedge, well it doesnt sound to good then :)
[07:25] <Mordof> anyone know of any places that i could learn how to make good gtk 2 themes??
[07:25] <Twisty> hey guys.
[07:26] <mustard5> eedge, it seems a tad broken
[07:26] <joelbryan> amphi: i'll try it again
[07:26] <mustard5> :)
[07:26] <LjL> comradevik: oh, right, type "sudo modprobe lufs"
[07:26] <amphi> comradevik: I believe you can use module-assistant to add that support
[07:26] <LjL> amphi: done that :)
[07:26] <amphi> LjL: ah :)
[07:26] <yanis> hello
[07:26] <Twisty> Hey this may sound kind of dumb, but in terminal it's asking me for my password, I try to type it, but it wont allow me. Help?
[07:27] <eedge> mustard5, yes... I think your right.
[07:27] <mustard5> Twisty, the keypresses are not visible
[07:27] <LjL> comradevik: (can you please use my nickname when you talk to me? otherwise i might easily miss what you say, this channel being quite busy)
[07:27] <comradevik> FATAL: Module lufs not found.
[07:27] <Agrajag> Twisty: what do you mean it won't allow you?
[07:27] <mustard5> Twisty, just type it in and press enter
[07:27] <amphi> Twisty: it does, it just doesn't echo to the term
[07:27] <eedge> would I be safe to delete the swap and ext3 partitions and try again?
[07:27] <Agrajag> it doesn't echo anything
[07:27] <eedge> it even
[07:27] <Twisty> ahhhh
[07:27] <Twisty> ok
[07:27] <comradevik> LjL: Module lufs not found
[07:27] <Agrajag> Twisty: that way nobody can even see how long your password is
[07:27] <LjL> comradevik: hm, that's strange. you sure it compiled correctly, and it *installed* as well? perhaps you should retry module-assistant and make sure
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> I'm changing the severity of a certain bug because it totally prevents any 3D from working on multiple drivers
[07:27] <Twisty> Sorry I didn't relize that
[07:27] <bluefoxicy> should I change it to "Major" or "critical"?
[07:28] <bluefoxicy> I'm not the only reporter
[07:28] <LjL> amphi: that package is even smart enough to list module-assistant as a dependency (or recommend, not sure) ;)
[07:28] <shanonx> how do you install a .gz file?
[07:28] <wastrel> bluefoxicy:  folks on #ubuntu-devel may have more insight
[07:28] <kleinlappies> so happy my pc is runnig all good now so lekka
[07:28] <mustard5> bluefoxicy, major is one down from critical I take it?
[07:28] <eedge> I think i'll try a grub.iso first.
[07:28] <LjL> shanonx: you don't. a .gz file is just a compressed file, similar to .zip files (but .gz can only contain *one* file)
[07:28] <bluefoxicy> mustard5:  yes
[07:29] <LjL> shanonx: to uncompress it, you use "gunzip filename.gz"
[07:29] <bluefoxicy> wastrel:  i'm banned from #-devel
[07:29] <mustard5> bluefoxicy, hehehe
[07:29] <swim> hey folks does anyone have k3b setup properly to have it burn with root privileges?
[07:29] <LjL> shanonx: if the complete extension is ".tar.gz", then you'll end up with a tar archive (with is another type of non-compressed format that can hold more than just one file)
[07:29] <nickrud> bluefoxicy, in general, major is serverely broken functionality, critical is data loss
[07:29] <wastrel> shanonx:  what are you trying to install
[07:29] <LjL> shanonx: to extract that, "tar -x -f filename.tar"
[07:29] <wastrel> shanonx:  and did you lookfor it in synaptic first?
[07:30] <shanonx> wastrel: i just installed ubuntu and dont have a lan card because it wont recognize so im trying to install the lan drivers
[07:30] <rohan> TomaszD, Thanks!! Sorry, will check it out in a bit but I'm meant to be in a meeting
[07:30] <amphi> LjL: nice
[07:30] <kleinlappies> can anyone tell if there is a app with what i can remote control my pc
[07:30] <shanonx> wastrel: my video adapter is also not supported so I have been trying to install the propriatary drivers for it as well
[07:30] <bluefoxicy> nickrud:  right, marked as major.  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/29493  Confirmed on Radeon (xorg), Vesa, and Via
[07:30] <MurraySW> Oh wow....Azureus just failed to update itslef, some error came up, now the software is TOTALLY borked beyond recognition....Can someone explain to me how to remove it completely from the system ???
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> swim,  ya just chmod +s one or 2 of the binaries it uses - I belive...
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> swim,  but that could be considered a security issue.
[07:30] <kleinlappies> can anyone tell if there is a app with what i can remote control my pc with my phone's bluetooth
[07:31] <ZyntaxError> anyone knows how to search for file whit a specific perimission? like search the system for sticky bits?
[07:31] <LjL> ZyntaxError: "man find" ;)
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> MurraySW,  shut it down and restart.. that fixed my messed up - after updates issue.
[07:31] <amphi> shanonx: what nic?
[07:31] <wastrel> shanonx:  what video card?
[07:31] <mustard5> MurraySW, what method did  you install it with?
[07:31] <Mordof> question: does an ftp server come in the install of breezy?
[07:31] <Mordof> or do i need to get one and set one up
[07:31] <LjL> ZyntaxError: i wouldn't tell you to RTFM, but i just don't remember what the right options are. i do know that find is what you need, though
[07:31] <comradevik> LjL thanks it worked
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> MurraySW,  also you may want to install it as a user, just for that user. that way the update system can work for it.
[07:31] <swim> thx Dr_Willis I just got it... by doing exactly what Id already done but hey...
[07:31] <MurraySW> mustard5:  It came with automatix o_O sigh.
[07:31] <Agrajag> ZyntaxError: find -perm <mask>
[07:31] <Agrajag> ZyntaxError: or +perm <mask>
[07:31] <LjL> comradevik: cool
[07:31] <wastrel> How do i get my breezy laptop  printing to my breezy desktop?
[07:31] <mustard5> MurraySW, I'd see if Dr_Willis's suggestion works
[07:32] <shanonx> wastrel :  ATI PCI -Express x1300
[07:32] <Agrajag> er
[07:32] <LjL> comradevik: note that you must always "sudo modprobe lufs" after you reboot to use it, unless you add it to -- err -- is it /etc/modules?
[07:32] <abhinav12383> Ubuntu hangs during boot.How can i disable wireless from Phoenix bios?
[07:32] <Agrajag> ZyntaxError: it's perm -<mask> or +<mask>, sorry
[07:32] <MurraySW> Ok, but for the question, how do I remove it completely first?
[07:32] <joelbryan_> amphi: I can't seem to ping my dhcp server after I got disconnected
[07:32] <mustard5> MurraySW, you can always read the code for Automatix to see how the script installed it
[07:33] <amphi> joelbryan_: after running dhclient eth0 to bring up the iface?
[07:33] <abhinav12383> amphi:How can i disable wireless from Phoenix bios?
[07:33] <Solver> Hullo experts :) I have this situation here - I've got unallocated space on my hard drive, and want to add it to my ubuntu partition, but obviously gpartedit won't let me since it's mounted
[07:33] <amphi> abhinav12383: no idea, have a look at the options
[07:33] <joelbryan_> amphi: it can't find any dhcp server and no leases found
[07:33] <Solver> So can I do it from here, or do I need Windows/PartitionMagic?
[07:34] <amphi> joelbryan_: sudo killall dhclient then
[07:34] <ZyntaxError> Agrajag: thanks.. but how do i put in the "mask"?
[07:34] <amphi> joelbryan_: does it work if you manually configure the interface?
[07:34] <abhinav12383> amphi:no such option.any other way of disabling wireless at boot
[07:34] <LjL> Solver: what about a live CD?
[07:34] <kleinlappies> bluetooth remote? hoe do i do it? (me is newbie to this)
[07:34] <mustard5> have fun all..I'm off to bed
[07:34] <ZyntaxError> Agrajag: im searching for suid bits set
[07:34] <amphi> abhinav12383: remove the minipci card? ;)
[07:35] <Solver> LjL: the live CD doesn't have gparted I think...
[07:35] <MurraySW> Ok, so if I'd like to check how exactly automatix installed Azureus, how do I go about doing that?
[07:35] <Solver> I can't install anything when booted from a LiveCD, right?
[07:35] <joelbryan_> amphi: you mean static ip address to my dhcp?, no.
[07:35] <LjL> Solver: i don't know, but you *can* install new programs from the live cd (not sure how it does it, but it does it)
[07:35] <amphi> Solver: the sysresccd.org iso has qtparted, FWIW
[07:35] <bluefoxicy> launchpad sucks
[07:35] <bluefoxicy> there's no obvious way to view all bugs I've reported.
[07:35] <abhinav12383> amphi:Its problematic to remove the card from the laptop.
[07:35] <bluefoxicy> like "My Bugs" in bugzilla.
[07:35] <_jason> Solver: yes, it has gparted and yes you can install
[07:35] <abhinav12383> amphi:any other way
[07:35] <Solver> Oh, thanks...
[07:36] <wastrel> shanonx:  did you try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:36] <amphi> abhinav12383: not that I know of; removing it is usually just one screw AFAIK
[07:36] <bluefoxicy> wow
[07:36] <bluefoxicy> the "Advanced" button does nothing.
[07:36] <_jason> bluefoxicy: file a bug report
[07:36] <Dr_Willis>  automatix  - Ugh.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> i imagine it just followed the wiki for that program.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> and just automated the steps.
[07:36] <alex2456> anyone here know how to scroll in the failsafe terminal
[07:36] <amphi> joelbryan_: if you configure the iface manually with a suitable ip and netmask, you can't ping the router?
[07:37] <MurraySW> mustard5:  How do I check out how Azureus was installed?  What's going to be the key to removing it?
[07:37] <amphi> alex2456: shift pgup/dn
[07:37] <sethk> alex2456, try shift page up
[07:38] <shanonx> wastrel: i cannot use any apt-get commands until my lan card is working...
[07:38] <alex2456> it only goes to the top
[07:38] <wastrel> shanonx:  ah true enough.   what NIC are you trying to get running?
[07:38] <alex2456> and when you let go it goes back down
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there an app for ubuntu i can use to send quick messages to a cellphone
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> !Azureus
[07:38] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[07:38] <shanonx> wastrel : its a Intel 82573V
[07:38] <we2by_> how do I update firefox to 1.5.1?
[07:38] <SonicYooth> Anyone know of a program similar to Katapult for Gnome?
[07:39] <LjL> _jason: out of curiosity - how does the live cd allow installing software? a unionfs with a ram disk perhaps?
[07:39] <alex2456> anyone know what the keycode is for shift pageup
[07:39] <mohkohn> I just flashed my MTP version iRiver T30 windoze crippled music player. Now it finally (as god intended) shows up as a usb device in linux.
[07:39] <_jason> LjL: I wondered that myself when I said that :)
[07:39] <MurraySW> Great, that's how to install it, but how the hell do I remove it?
[07:39] <_jason> LjL: I only know it's possible
[07:39] <amphi> alex2456: showkey will tell you
[07:40] <mohkohn> But I get this message when I try to mount it: Error: device /dev/sda is already mounted to /media/sda
[07:40] <mohkohn> Error: could not execute pmount
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so does anyone know what app i can use to send sms messages to cellphones from my computer?
[07:40] <LjL> _jason: yep i knew that too, but i thought it might be some interesting hack
[07:40] <joelbryan_> amphi: yes it can ping the router.
[07:40] <amphi> shanonx: is that a gigabit card?
[07:41] <shanonx> amphi: yes
[07:41] <LjL> SonicYooth: don't think so, but you could always get katapult if you've got HD space to spare for the qt and kde libs :)
[07:41] <shanonx> amphi: why?
[07:41] <jjjjjjj> well.... time for another reinstall.  i am just evaluating a few distros but i've spent too much time setting up vsftpd.  cya later.
[07:41] <amphi> shanonx: modprobe e1000 doesn't work?
[07:41] <we2by_> how do I update firefox to 1.5.1?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> !firefox
[07:41] <LjL> !tell we2by_ about firefox1.5
[07:41] <amphi> shanonx: that works here for Intel Corp. 82540EP Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Mobile) (rev 03), FWOW
[07:41] <LjL> we2by_: except that i'm afraid the download link is broken
[07:41] <SonicYooth> LjL: Oh I didn't know that was an option. Thanks!
[07:42] <joelbryan_> amphi: but for just a few seconds, after I got disconnected, I can't ping the router.
[07:42] <shanonx> amphi: what should i type ... sudo modprobe e1000 ?
[07:42] <mohkohn> It even shows up in nautilus as Iriver T30 Pure.
[07:42] <LjL> SonicYooth: yup, you can install any KDE program in gnome, and vice versa... though you do pay the penalty of libraries
[07:42] <amphi> joelbryan_: I'm not clear what you mean by 'disconnected'
[07:42] <LjL> SonicYooth: i suggest you use aptitude to install it, otherwise you'll have to remove the KDE/Qt libraries by hand if you decide to remove it
[07:42] <jjjjjjj> !vsftpd
[07:42] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jjjjjjj
[07:42] <amphi> shanonx: yeah, with sudo prepended to avoid delay and disappointment ;)
[07:42] <SonicYooth> LjL: Gotcha, I'll look into aptitude, not sure what it is yet :)
[07:43] <amphi> shanonx: oh, n/m, you said sudo
[07:43] <LjL> SonicYooth: it's just like apt-get, for practical purposes. "sudo aptitude install katapult" will get it to you
[07:43] <joelbryan_> amphi: i can only connect to the internet for several seconds, < 1 minute, when I got disconnected I  can't ping anything, even the router
[07:43] <shanonx> amphi: so after I type that command what should happen?
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can someone tell me if there is an app to send sms messeges to cellphones in ubuntu?
[07:43] <LjL> SonicYooth: if you just type "aptitude", you'll get a text-mode interface, but i do *not* suggest using that
[07:43] <amphi> shanonx: you should be able to do ifconfig ethX
[07:43] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: can't Gaim do that?
[07:43] <SonicYooth> LjL: Roger that. Thanks!
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can it O_o
[07:44] <Wenderlan> ;)
[07:44] <amphi> joelbryan_: what happens with this 'disconnection'? does the iface config change?
[07:44] <wastrel> I'm trying to get my CUPS set up to allow network printing- I've added Allow From  lines for my LAN, and opened port 631 but i can't print from my laptop - any ideas?
[07:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LjL: can it? O_o
[07:44] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: not sure, i don't use Gnome, but i think i recall it could. check the list of protocols, it will possibly have an "SMS" protocol -- not sure what service it will use though
[07:44] <amphi> shanonx: or use whatever you like to configure the interface; ifconfig -a should show that eth0 or whatever is present after you modprobe the module
[07:44] <wastrel> shanonx:  try ifconfig -a
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LjL: ok i am looking for the sms protocall now and i don't see anything it does have something weard called groupwize and gadu-gadu don't know what those are lol
[07:46] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: hm no don't think they're it
[07:46] <joelbryan_> amphi: yes, it changes, no inet line when I get disconnected
[07:46] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: read that as "no they aren't" actually
[07:46] <shanonx> wastrel and amphi: that shows me ... Link encap : Local Loopback.. then shows an IP address and stuff... but not one that is right
[07:46] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: "apt-cache search sms gnome" doesn't show up much
[07:46] <ailean> In Windows, I can play music while other programs use the sound card - for example, notifications that someone's calling me on Skype. Can I do this in Ubuntu also? I was trying to use Skype earlier, and it wouldn't allow it because XMMS was using the sound card.
[07:46] <amphi> joelbryan_: you mean, no inet addr etc?
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> x
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cz
[07:47] <chrome> ChurcH_of_FoamY: SMS messages are generally sent through internet SMS gateways and require a contract with a mobile phone company to send directly.
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> darn
[07:47] <joelbryan_> amphi: yes
[07:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i have a mobile 2 of them actually
[07:47] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: try "apt-cache show ickle", it's an ICQ client that claims to allow SMS messages... SMSs uses to be free on ICQ, but i wouldn't swear of them still being free
[07:47] <amphi> joelbryan_: we talk about eth0?
[07:47] <joelbryan_> amphi: yes
[07:47] <mohkohn> Can anybody tell me why it would connect to /dev/media instead of using pmount?
[07:48] <amphi> joelbryan_: does grep eth0 /etc/network/interfaces show 'dhcp' or 'static' ?
[07:48] <LjL> chrome: not necessarily, there are/were many free SMS services on the 'net. they've become fewer and fewer, possibly to the point that they're very few now
[07:48] <chrome> ChurcH_of_FoamY: having a mobile phone isn't what I mean. You'd need to negotiate access to one of the mobile phone provider's internet SMS gateways. Its not something offer just any subscriber, usually.
[07:48] <nixbox> hi all
[07:48] <chrome> LjL: they all have had to get the contract sorted out with the telco. I know, I worked for a company that did it.
[07:48] <wastrel> shanonx:  so it only had one interface listing ?
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> chrome: oh ok i see what you mean
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[07:48] <LjL> chrome: i'm sure they did, but the actual *user* didn't need any contract
[07:48] <chrome> certainly, there isn't any magical software you can download to make it work.
[07:48] <ZyntaxError> i cant get it to work how do i search my system for suid bits? i have tryed find -perm +s but it lists the the sgid bits 2 =(
[07:49] <chrome> LjL: there might be a free web based gateway out there that you could write a script to hit, but I dont know anyone who has bothered. Most people just go to the free web page :P
[07:49] <LjL> chrome: there certainly is software that can make use of some free web sites' SMS services. "smsclient" for example, though that's just text-mode, and the list of service provider might not be very updated
[07:49] <joelbryan_> amphi: static, should I edit it and change to dhcp?
[07:49] <LjL> chrome: you're mistaken :) people *have* bothered to write such scripts
[07:49] <amphi> shanonx: after modprobe e1000, sudo ifconfig -a shows no eth0?
[07:49] <nixbox> i have installed ubuntu on my inspiron 6000, I have an intel 2915ABG wireless card, the wireless interface appears as eth1, i installed wpa_supplicant, and changed the configuration file according to the wireless network settings, but i get lots of ioctl operation not permitted messages
[07:49] <blekos> if i install f4, will this install the new versions of programs, and what happens with the old, are they being uninstalled?
[07:50] <chrome> LjL: *shrug* I didn't know :) Still.
[07:50] <amphi> joelbryan_: you could try that, and then do 'sudo ifup eth0' and see if that works
[07:50] <alex_> anyone know how to scroll in the term aside from shift pgup and shift pgdown
[07:50] <amphi> alex_: that is the way
[07:50] <lupz> hello
[07:50] <LjL> chrome: actually, i think i was thinking about "smssend", not "smsclient" (which appears to just give local gateway service)
[07:50] <amphi> alex_: WAYTTD?
[07:50] <farous> alex_: i use the mouse wheel to do that
[07:51] <amphi> farous: in a VT?
[07:51] <lupz> where can i find the xorg.conf.5x.gz man page in dapper ?
[07:51] <shanonx> amphi: all it shows is ... Link encap: Local Loopback then a bunch of address info.... but doesnt show any ... ethX information
[07:51] <alex_> well the thing is im in the failsafe term
[07:51] <alex_> so the mouse doesent work
[07:51] <farous> amphi: nope gnome terminal
[07:51] <chrome> LjL: when we did it, BT gave us a gateway with an XMLRPC adapter that we wrote our free SMS sending web app to use
[07:51] <amphi> shanonx: damn, perhaps e1000 doesn't work with that card - what's the card model again?
[07:51] <mordof_> bleh, my internet dropped out on me.. how do i go about setting up a decent ftp server
[07:51] <we2by_> I think I forgot to install libstdc++
[07:51] <we2by_> can some one gives me the command to install it?
[07:51] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: for you too, smssend is the only client i'm aware of. it's CLI-only, but still
[07:51] <chrome> LjL: its nice that people have written stuff to take advantage of those webapps :)
[07:51] <lupz> where can i find the xorg.conf(5x) man page in dapper ?
[07:52] <wastrel> alex_:  is shift-pgup not working?    if you switch VT's i think the history gets erased FYI
[07:52] <shanonx> amphi: Intel 82573V
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LjL: wow can i apt-get it?
[07:52] <alex_> mordof_:you can get proftp from the package manager
[07:52] <LjL> chrome: i was using that script to make my server page me in case of problems. quite handy, though it stopped working soon for some reason
[07:52] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes
[07:52] <Mordof> alex_, k, thanks
[07:52] <shanonx> amphi: i have the linux drivers for the card.. its just all the source and I cannot get it to install... i downloaded the drivers from the Intel site.
[07:52] <alex_> shift pgup works, but it only goes to the top of the list and then when you let it go it just goes back to the bottom
[07:53] <Mordof> alex_, for ftp servers, i dont really know what im doing, does that have a GUI frontend to it possibly?
[07:53] <shanonx> amphi: put them on with a flash drive... but it wont let me do the commands like .... "Make Install" or w/e
[07:53] <amphi> shanonx: where is this source?
[07:53] <sethk> shanonx, the command would be make install, not Make Install
[07:53] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: for your information, ICQ now appears to only offer free message to Canada, Australia, Singapore and Israel
[07:54] <ConfidentiaL> Is there any way of setting the settings back like there is in windows?
[07:54] <shanonx> sethk: "-bash: make: command not found"
[07:54] <alex_> Mordof: theres not anything to configure
[07:54] <alex_> once you install it it is up
[07:54] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: with smssend, you'll have to test a few providers before finding one that works and is still giving free messages :\
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> ConfidentiaL,  what settings?
[07:54] <shanonx> amphi: this source i put in my home folder...
[07:54] <ailean> In Windows, I can play music while other programs use the sound card - for example, notifications that someone's calling me on Skype. Can I do this in Ubuntu also? I was trying to use Skype earlier, and it wouldn't allow it because XMMS was using the sound card.
[07:54] <LjL> shanonx: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[07:54] <sethk> shanonx, so install make.  install the build-essential package
[07:54] <amphi> shanonx: did you read ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/9180/ENG/README.txt ?
[07:54] <wastrel> ailean:  you have to tell xmms to use the sound server for output so it doesn't lock the sound card
[07:54] <Agrajag> Skype is OSS only, it won't let you use alsa, so you can't share the sound device.
[07:55] <Agrajag> I think.
[07:55] <shanonx> amphi: yes that is what im reading right now
[07:55] <sethk> Agrajag, no, that's never true
[07:55] <we2by_> how do I configure gnome to have my num lock turned onwhen it starts?
[07:55] <joelbryan_> amphi: still no dhcpoffers recieve.
[07:55] <ailean> wastrel, thanks
[07:55] <we2by_> !numlock
[07:55] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, we2by_
[07:55] <sethk> Agrajag, alsa supplies an oss compatibility layer
[07:55] <linkd> wastrel: how do u tell it that?
[07:55] <eedge> I've had an idea, can you tell me what you think - Restoring grub, or atleast booting my linux partition - Use a grub.iso image to create a bootable CD, copying the menu.1st off from live cd and pasting onto root of boot cd and booting with it?....
[07:55] <joelbryan_> amphi: still no dhcpoffers received
[07:55] <Agrajag> linkd: set the output plugin to esd
[07:55] <amphi> shanonx: that appears to be the e1000 driver, but perhaps a more recent version than the one in the kernel
[07:55] <LjL> is there a way i can make ubuntu use a different framebuffer than vesafb/vga16fb at boot (or, if that's not possible, no framebuffer at all)? i'd like to load my card-specific framebuffer, but the vesa/vga modules cannot be unloaded
[07:56] <ConfidentiaL> Dr_Willis : I just installed ATI drivers, but got an error on the way, and after I reboot, I can log into with normal session. I get error message "Your session lasted for less then 10sec etc..."
[07:56] <amphi> joelbryan_: well, of course not - you should now configure the interface and default route manually
[07:56] <shanonx> LjL: what exactly will that command do, just so i know what Im doing.
[07:56] <mohkohn> Anybody else here using an iRiver music device?
[07:56] <Agrajag> mohkohn: I have an h320
[07:56] <LjL> shanonx: it will install a C compiler, the "make" program, and a few other things that are "essential" to building source code
[07:56] <alex_> amphi: is there any other way to scrool
[07:56] <alex_> scroll*
[07:57] <amphi> joelbryan_: once you get that working, you can add the info to the eth0 stanza in /etc/network/interfaces, and thereafter ifup eth0 will configure the iface
[07:57] <LjL> shanonx: in general, "sudo aptitude install <package-name>" will install a package. "apt-cache search <keyword(s)>" will let you search for them
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> ConfidentiaL,  you dident bother backing up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf eh?
[07:57] <wastrel> linkd, ailean  in preferences, change the output server to oss
[07:57] <mohkohn> Not the same. Looking more somebody using the T series.
[07:57] <amphi> alex_: I believe no - what are you trying to do?
[07:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LjL: do you know anything about this smssend?
[07:57] <wastrel> or what they said
[07:57] <Mordof> alex_, there is always stuff to configure in an ftp server, like directories you want listed, permissions, bandwidth caps, etc
[07:57] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's asking for a file and it knows it doesent have it
[07:57] <ConfidentiaL> Dr_Willis : I think I did make one with the extra ending .custom or domething...
[07:57] <amphi> alex_: eg, are you trying to see kernel boot messages?
[07:57] <joelbryan_> amphi: you mean, i can't use dhcp?
[07:57] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: well, i used it long ago, i've got it still installed on my server, but i'm not sure i remember much about it
[07:58] <ConfidentiaL> Dr_Willis : I followed the ATI guide...
[07:58] <mohkohn> In EU and US they were crippled with DRM  and would only play with Windoze Mediaplayer 10. I just flashed mine.
[07:58] <ailean> trying that now wastrel :)
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> ConfidentiaL,  then copy it back to /etc/X11/xorg.conf - Ive NEVER used the aTi guide. i use that ati ubuntu wiki page. :P
[07:58] <mohkohn> Now it is a usb device again. But I can't mount it.
[07:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LjL: it's looking for a file and says it cannot find any of them so far that it may or maynot need O_o
[07:58] <alex_> Mordof: well in terms of permissions you log in with your user name, and it terms of configuring it a gui dialog comes up right after you install it
[07:58] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i can tell you that i used the "1rstwap" service to send sms. can't tell if that's still in business and works, though
[07:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[07:59] <wastrel> CUPS network printing setup - I am trying to share my printer so LAN clients can print to it.  I've added Allow From  lines for the LAN and opened port 631, but my laptop can't print - any ideas?
[07:59] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what file?
[07:59] <alex_> amphi: no my friends display manager stopped working and he only has a terminal come up now
[07:59] <shanonx> what is the command to remove an entire directory including inside files?..
[07:59] <linkd> shanonx: rm -rf /path/to/dir
[07:59] <sethk> shanonx, rm
[07:59] <shanonx> thanks
[07:59] <wastrel> there's no undo
[07:59] <wastrel> so be careful
[07:59] <alex_> amphi: it says error: cannot open display if you try to run GDM or gnome or anything like that
[07:59] <jimcooncat> careful careful
[07:59] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: the command line i used is "smssend 1rstwap my-user-name my-password 1 phone-number message-text"
[07:59] <farous> shanonx: use wisely though there is not undelete once you use it
[08:00] <LjL> shanonx: and it doesn't ask
[08:00] <eedge> I've had an idea, can you tell me what you think - Restoring grub, or atleast booting my linux partition - Use a grub.iso image to create a bootable CD, copying the menu.1st off from live cd and pasting onto root of boot cd and booting with it?....
[08:00] <mohkohn> I am finding I cannot mount any usb devices.
[08:01] <amphi> alex_: try less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:01] <ailean> wastrel, i now have the problem that skype is blocking the card - can i set that to use the OSS too?
[08:01] <amphi> alex_: you should have said that in the beginning ;)
[08:01] <alex_> amphi: what you mean
[08:02] <alex_> amphi: sorry
[08:02] <amphi> alex_: the info you seek is in that log file
[08:02] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: note that the phone number (at least with 1rstwap) did include the international prefix, but without a leading "+" or "00"
[08:02] <alex_> amphi: oky doky thanks
[08:02] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: er, by "prefix" i guess i meant "dialcode"
[08:03] <shanonx> wastrel: that help files commands are messed up.... when i read what it says and do the "make install" command i get the error .... "make: *** no rule to make target 'install'. Stop "
[08:03] <blekos> anyone knows dapper drakes rep?
[08:03] <wastrel> ailean:  i'm sorry i don't know anything about skype
[08:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ljl ok it's cool it doesn't work right now cause of some sorta sctipt error
[08:03] <ailean> ok, thanks wastrel
[08:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> accoding to the kde forums
[08:03] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: perhaps that service doesn't work anymore... i'll try it now. note that for 1rstwap you need a 1rstwap account (used to be free)
[08:03] <wastrel> shanonx:  you have to compile the driver?
[08:04] <kleinlappies> bluetooth remote? how do i do it? (me is newbie to this)
[08:04] <alex_> amphi: what kind of things should i look for in there
[08:04] <shanonx> wastrel: thats what the readme says to do
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ljl yea i am just looking for something simple that dosen't take a scientist to figure out lol
[08:04] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: hm, it gives me an error right now
[08:04] <wastrel> shanonx:  where did you download the driver?
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea i thought smssend would lol
[08:04] <wastrel> shanonx:  can you show me the url?
[08:04] <ubuntu_> hello
[08:05] <shanonx> wastrel: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2197&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[08:05] <Wenderlan> :D
[08:05] <LjL> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i'm afraid there is no such thing... free SMS services are rarer and rarer, and their web sites change all the time. so you'll definitely need to mess around (more than) a bit
[08:05] <Wenderlan> :P
[08:05] <joelbryan_> amphi: when I try to configure the interface, it says "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[08:05] <joelbryan_> "
[08:05] <ConfidentiaL> Dr_Willis : I think I have a bunch of auto backups of the xorg.conf ... How do i replace 1 of them with the current one?
[08:05] <Wenderlan> cool
[08:05] <amphi> joelbryan_: ifconfig eth0 some_ip up
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LjL: i am not surprised the only thing so far that has been totaly free to me is linux ^_^
[08:05] <amphi> joelbryan_: route add default gw <router_ip>
[08:05] <alex_> amphi: what kind of things should i look for in there?
[08:06] <mohkohn> Can anybody tell me why I can't access usb devices. it seems like a permission problem
[08:06] <amphi> alex_: what was done to break X?
[08:06] <wastrel> shanonx:  you're in the proper directory?
[08:06] <amphi> mohkohn: permissions in /proc/bus/usb/* ?
[08:06] <wastrel> shanonx:  you have to be in the correct folder for the make install to work
[08:07] <shanonx> wastrel : no i wasnt but i am now and i just got the error " Makefile:65: *** Linux kernel source not found. Stop
[08:07] <alex_> amphi: it was a an automatic system update, and when the computer was rebooted gnome did not come up
[08:07] <wastrel> shanonx:  yes it wants the kernel source to build the module
[08:07] <ConfidentiaL> How do I replace my xorg.conf file with one of the backed up one's? (just need the command)
[08:08] <shanonx> wastrel: so how do i do that ?
[08:08] <amphi> shanonx: that's a powerfuk hint - the docs also say "NOTE: For the build to work properly, the currently running kernel MUST match the version and configuration of the installed kernel sources." FFS
[08:08] <amphi> *powerful
[08:08] <trooper00> ConfidentiaL: i think you are thinking of mv
[08:08] <nickrud> ConfidentiaL, cd /etc/X11 && mv xorg.backup xorg.conf
[08:08] <amphi> alex_: automatic update, huh? there's a moral in that story somewhere...
[08:08] <amphi> alex_: I would try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:08] <ConfidentiaL> ok, thx ;)
[08:08] <Humanoid> is there any other place to put themes than gnome(etc)-look.org and art.gnome.org?
[08:09] <alex_> amphi: aite thanks
[08:09] <kleinlappies> bluetooth remote? how do i do it? (me is newbie to this)
[08:09] <shanonx> amphi: i just did a clean install of ubuntu, wouldnt the kernel match the sources?
[08:09] <r2d2_> has somebody already compiled the cp2101 module present in newer kernels for the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel shipped with ubuntu 5.04
[08:09] <amphi> shanonx: the source may need to be configured, dunno
[08:09] <joelbryan_> amphi: I get a message when I try to restart the /etc/init.d/networking, "SIOCADDRT: File exists,  Failed to bring up eth0."
[08:09] <amphi> joelbryan_: I didn't say to do that, did I?
[08:10] <amphi> shanonx: is it even installed?
[08:10] <nickrud> shanonx, actually you probably only need the headers; sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname r)
[08:10] <nickrud> arg
[08:10] <nickrud>  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:11] <butchiebags> hi, can someone tell me what it means by "type in a terminal" ? how do i get to this "terminal"
[08:12] <russ[] > application < accessories < terminal
[08:12] <shanonx> nickrud: i did that then tried the "make install" again it ... did it but had TONS of errors... maybe it needs more than the headers?
[08:12] <joelbryan_> amphi:  I still can't connect.
[08:12] <joelbryan_> amphi:  I still can't connect, after configuring eth0 and route manually.
[08:12] <nickrud> shanonx, possibly. It depends on what it is. Generally, kernel modules only need the headers for compiling
[08:13] <amphi> joelbryan_: PM?
[08:13] <mohkohn> I can mount my usb devices as root using sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/usbstick
[08:13] <shanonx> nickrud: its to get my Lan card to be recognized, thats what the drivers source is for
[08:13] <mohkohn> So this seems to be a wierd permission problem.
[08:13] <amphi> mohkohn: perms under /proc/bus/usb
[08:13] <nickrud> shanonx, I looked back in the log, and found your link for wastrel. a sec
[08:14] <mohkohn> thanks amphi. I'll check. But isn't pmount supposed to do this?
[08:14] <butchiebags> so is anyone gonna tell me what a terminal is?
[08:14] <nickrud> shanonx, is there any reason you can't use the e1000 driver in the ubuntu kernel?
[08:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell butchiebags about cli
[08:14] <_jason> butchiebags: app menu > accessories > terminal
[08:15] <LjL> please, i can't stand this 1600x2000/60Hz anymore (yeah, yeah, i could solve this anyway ;), is there a way to disable thevga/vesa framebuffer modules from initrd?
[08:15] <butchiebags> ahh ty that was easy
[08:15] <joelbryan_> amphi: I pm'd you now.
[08:15] <shanonx> nickrud: if it didnt recognize my card before, will it recognize it now? ... i figured new drivers might be why it wasnt recognizing it
[08:15] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[08:15] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:15] <amphi> joelbryan_: you are not identified to services, you cannot transmit ;)
[08:16] <ConfidentiaL> is it possible to use a backup to get the whole system set back some time?
[08:16] <nickrud> shanonx, ah. a sec
[08:16] <wastrel> yuck
[08:16] <sethk> ConfidentiaL, of course
[08:17] <shanonx> nickrud: when  I installed ubuntu, it asked if it was a firewire network adapter... but i dont think it  is...so i hit NO.
[08:17] <kleinlappies> whats a good exchange server? need one at work want to kick out the xp box
[08:17] <imachine> HI :] 
[08:17] <ConfidentiaL> sethk : how do I set it back then?
[08:17] <nickrud> shanonx, try sudo modprobe e1000, and see if loads
[08:17] <ghoulee> how do I type normal ASCII double quotes with an UK keyboard?  I keep getting these funny Unicode things which the terminal doesnt like
[08:17] <ivo_> Hi how to i instal the rpm files?   help
[08:18] <sambagirl> i have error grup load 1.7 error 17. i am trying to format the drive using recovery disks for windows how can i get rid of this grub thing?
[08:18] <LjL> ivo_: use "alien". or better yet, don't.
[08:18] <Mordof> so i just downloaded proftpd and webmin for it, how do i get to the wedmin
[08:18] <mohkohn> amphi, none        /proc/bus/usb   usbfs         defaults      0 0
[08:18] <mohkohn> Does that look good?
[08:18] <shanonx> nickrud: Ifconfig still doesnt show any eth0
[08:18] <ivo_> what i the alien?
[08:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell ivo_ about alien
[08:18] <sambagirl> i have formatted it 2 times now and i have fdisked it too to remove all partitioins.
[08:18] <imachine> question, im running 5.4 release of ubuntu, when i login normally into gnome, there is an unknown perl session with me all the time taking resources and i do not know what that perl is and where it is from :]  when killing -9 the process id, a window in gtk2 pops up and says 'Invalid Password. Make sure caps lock is not turned on and try again'
[08:18] <sambagirl> what can i do.
[08:18] <_jason> ivo_: you really should *avoid* using alien if at all possible
[08:18] <amphi> mohkohn: not fstab, the directories under /proc/bus/usb
[08:18] <imachine> i think it might have to do with ubuntus lack of normal 'su', uhm, with sudo and all.
[08:19] <ivo_> where i can get alien ?
[08:19] <imachine> dunno, but i think its to do with the root password, or something requiring the root privileges and not getting them.
[08:19] <imachine> ivo_, apt-cache search alien
[08:19] <LadyNikon> sambagirl: if you fdisked the disk.. then it should be removed
[08:19] <imachine> anyone knows what it might be ?
[08:19] <imachine> or how to fix it? i dont know debian too well [;
[08:19] <sambagirl> well why is it saying this grub thing?
[08:19] <imachine> not to mention ubuntu ;] 
[08:19] <shanonx> nickrud: maybe it is a firewire network adapter? ... i mean it is ONBOARD the MB ...
[08:19] <mohkohn> amphi thanks again
[08:19] <LadyNikon> master boot record
[08:19] <sambagirl> i'm just so angry you just dont know ladyknion
[08:20] <imachine> sambagirl, dd if=/dev/zero of=/yourdisk
[08:20] <imachine> sambagirl, then fdisk it again.
[08:20] <imachine> sambagirl, your problem should be gone, cheers.
[08:20] <imachine> ;] 
[08:20] <sambagirl> grr
[08:20] <ConfidentiaL> how do I use a backup to set my whole system back?
[08:20] <nickrud> shanonx, ifconfig needs be configured to use the card. The module should show in lsmod (ls installed kernel  modules) Check that first
[08:20] <Mordof> sambagirl, whats goin on/
[08:20] <imachine> so. how about my perl going mad?
[08:20] <ivo_> imachine look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9131
[08:20] <imachine> any ideas ?
[08:21] <imachine> ivo_, uhm. ok.
[08:21] <mohkohn> /etc/proc/usb all root permissions
[08:21] <Humanoid> anyone interested on testing my OS X themes for Metacity and XFCE ? :)
[08:21] <imachine> ivo_, well its there what more do you need? dont you know how to use apt-get ?
[08:21] <imachine> ivo_, ehh. only once: sudo apt-get install alien
[08:22] <imachine> cheers.
[08:22] <LjL> (imachine), ivo_: ubotu has explained to you how to install packages. please look at the message
[08:22] <amphi> mohkohn: what group owns the files in question?
[08:22] <marc_> HELP! I am trying to install limewire and one of the instructions says "You must place Sun's JRE in the path prior to launching LimeWire."  What does that mean, and what should I do?
[08:22] <HappyFool> imachine: ps aux doesn't give any more clues about the perl process?
[08:22] <ivo_> where is a mesegae?
[08:22] <imachine> HappyFool, well thats what im doing.
[08:22] <imachine> hang on
[08:22] <imachine> let me allow it to respawn
[08:22] <marc_> its in the help text file
[08:22] <LjL> ivo_: in the window next to the window of this channel
[08:22] <KarolisP> marc_ get java runtime edition installed
[08:22] <marc_> it also says I need version 1.4.2 or greater, but I do
[08:23] <dooglus> LjL: remember the problem I had yesterday with dapper deleting itself on boot?
[08:23] <mohkohn> so amphi do I chmod a+e /proc/bus/usb?
[08:23] <LjL> ivo_: (by "window" i suppose i mean "tab")
[08:23] <ConfidentiaL> how do I use backup to set my whole system back? (im in fail safe terminal now c'.)
[08:23] <imachine> ah!
[08:23] <LjL> dooglus: yep
[08:23] <imachine> HappyFool, how foolish of me >_<
[08:23] <mohkohn> amphi, root
[08:23] <imachine> HappyFool, imachine 21428 13.0  3.9  11864 10100 pts/1    Ss+  20:22   0:01 perl /usr/share/setup-tool-backends/scripts/network-conf
[08:23] <imachine> HappyFool, any ideas then ? ;] 
[08:23] <dooglus> LjL: I reported it, but it seems that it won't be fixed - it should teach me a lesson, apparently.
[08:23] <imachine> network-conf. wtf ;p
[08:23] <shanonx> nickrud: it shows e1000 but says nothing is using  the mod
[08:23] <alex2456> amphi: sorry i got disconnected
[08:23] <LjL> dooglus: yeah, linux sometimes teaches bad lessons... but personally i still think it's a bug
[08:24] <HappyFool> imachine: at a wild guess, maybe some leftover configuration hasn't been completed
[08:24] <domjl> btw: for installing packages, most of us are far better off using "Synaptic" which is installed by default and is under the system menu.  synaptic is my hero
[08:24] <drfoz> how do i get java working in firefox on dapper?
[08:24] <imachine> HappyFool, hmmm.
[08:24] <imachine> its weird.
[08:24] <we2by_> hi, I just got command not found: make
[08:24] <dooglus> LjL: me too.  but apparently "bind mounts are considered
[08:24] <dooglus> dangerous unless you really know what you're doing"
[08:24] <imachine> let me look at that script.
[08:24] <we2by_> what do I install to get make?
[08:24] <Humanoid> drfoz, same way than in the breezy
[08:24] <RichART1> i'm getting ubuntu to send me the free cds
[08:24] <nickrud> shanonx, excellent then :) You should be able to configure the interface (eth1) in /etc/network/interfaces (I'm no guru on networking :)
[08:24] <LjL-Dinner> we2by_: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[08:24] <novasilver> Hello everyone
[08:24] <novasilver> I have a request
[08:24] <novasilver> for upgrading some package
[08:24] <novasilver> on latest ubuntu
[08:24] <novasilver> who is the good person to ask that
 i think i used automatix in beezy
[08:24] <RichART1> would've saved me to burns-in-vain
[08:25] <Humanoid> drfoz, automatix... hrr... forget
[08:25] <shanonx> nickrud: what is the command to edit a txt file ?
[08:25] <imachine> HappyFool, how could i complete it then? or search onto what is not done? dpkg-reconfigure * ? ;] 
[08:25] <nickrud> shanonx, just installing the module for the network card does not set up the card for networking
[08:25] <ivo_> sudo aptitude install alien i install the alien and where is it ?
[08:25] <ConfidentiaL> how do I use backup to set my whole system back? (im in fail safe terminal now c'.)
[08:25] <nickrud> shanonx, I use nano <file>
[08:26] <alex2456> amphi: i tried doing the package reconfigure thing and it did not work
[08:26] <dooglus> shanonx: if you use "editor <file>" it will use whatever is set up as your editor
[08:26] <ivo_> hey where i can find alien?
[08:26] <HappyFool> imachine: i was not previously aware of this script, actually. I wonder what would happen if you ran it (to get it in the foreground) ?
[08:26] <Humanoid> ivo_, sudo apt-get install alien
[08:26] <dooglus> !info alien
[08:26] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[08:26] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.53 (breezy), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[08:27] <HappyFool> hrm. one bot per channel is enough
[08:27] <ConfidentiaL> how do I use backup to set the system back to before I installed a driver for my graphics card?
[08:27] <dooglus> !info quadra
[08:27] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[08:27] <imachine> HappyFool, nothing :o
[08:27] <imachine> HappyFool, nothing happens i mean. when i run it ;] 
[08:27] <imachine> it seems quite pointless hmm :>
[08:27] <imachine> maybe i will just -x it ;p
[08:27] <ivo_> Humanoid yes i install the alien and where is it ?
[08:27] <imachine> ivo_, in your box.
[08:27] <imachine> ivo_, 'which alien'
[08:28] <ivo_> i know but whre?
[08:28] <imachine> ffs.
[08:28] <stuart__> whereis alien
[08:28] <shanonx> nickrud: so i am going to have to manually imput the information to setup my card..?
[08:28] <imachine> its in your $PATH anyway
[08:28] <imachine> whats the problem.
[08:28] <dooglus> ivo_: /usr/bin/alien
[08:28] <ConfidentiaL> how do I use backup to set the system back to before I installed a driver for my graphics card? plzzz
[08:28] <Humanoid> ivo_, you just run it with command alien
[08:28] <alex2456> anyone here know how to configure acpi
[08:28] <imachine> unless you use *csh there is not even need for rehashing your shell.
[08:28] <farous> ivo_: what package you want to install alien should be your last resort after deb and source
[08:28] <imachine> HappyFool, pretty hectic in here ;-)
[08:29] <nickrud> shanonx, um, I'm not sure about networking: I simply edited my /etc/network/interfaces and changed everything from eth0 to eth1 when I bypassed my bad onboard networking
[08:29] <wastrel> shanonx:  do you have a dhcp server on your network?
[08:29] <nickrud> shanonx, that should work for a test. Having two cards active at the same time (and forwarding, and all) is way over my head
[08:29] <shanonx> wastrel: nope..
[08:30] <Gnumannen> How can I use "build-det" and "source" at the same time in apt-get?
[08:30] <ivo_> alien is already the newest version.
[08:30] <ivo_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[08:30] <nickrud> shanonx, have I said that I'm not real familiar with actual real world networking yet ;)
[08:30] <HappyFool> imachine: i'm afraid i'm out of ideas; i guess something went wrong on install and is causing the script to be triggered, but i have no idea what
[08:30] <Gnumannen> dep*
[08:30] <shanonx> nickrud: well there is virtually nothing in my interfaces file ... so im very unsure what to do.
[08:30] <ConfidentiaL> I get a session error after I have installed drivers for my graphics card, any1 know how to use backup yo get back settings?
[08:30] <dooglus> Gnumannen: make a shell function to do one after the other
[08:31] <imachine> HappyFool, i wonder if i even need the bloody thing.
[08:31] <imachine> i will just -x the sucker.
[08:31] <nickrud> shanonx, you can test the card: sudo ifdown eth0 ; change all occurences of eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces to eth1 ; then sudo ifup eth1
[08:31] <HappyFool> imachine: ah. it's part of gnome system tools. have you used the gnome network config tool ?
[08:31] <ConfidentiaL> I get a session error after I have installed drivers for my graphics card, any1 know how to use backup to get back the settings?
[08:31] <dooglus> Gnumannen: I use this one in my .bashrc:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9133
[08:32] <imachine> HappyFool, :> 'modem applet terminated unexpectedly'
[08:32] <bipolar> can anyone help me with this on dapper? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[08:32] <Humanoid> ConfidentiaL, if you didn't backup your xorg.conf, it's impossible :)
[08:32] <imachine> we have our winner! ;)
[08:32] <ivo_> help plz
[08:32] <shanonx> nickrud: "ifdown: interface eht0 not configured "
[08:32] <HappyFool> heh
[08:32] <wastrel> shanonx:  ok here's the entry for my eth1 ... change to suit your network/interface      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9132
[08:32] <dooglus> shanonx: it's "eth0"
[08:32] <stuart__> anyone had any joy with a pcmcia genius gw-7100p wlan card on ubuntu <natively> not using ndiswrapper - wotks out the box on suse but not on breezy?
[08:32] <bipolar> I was able to build dapper debs, but the module-assistant lines dont work.
[08:32] <wastrel> shanonx:  change eth1 to eth0, change 192.168.2.2 to the ip address you want, and change 192.168.2.1   to your router's IP
[08:32] <bipolar> keeps giving me an error about the kernel source directory being unconfigured, and it's looking for the wrong kernel version it seems.
[08:32] <shanonx> dooglus: typo
[08:33] <ConfidentiaL> Humanoid : I did back that up, but after I used the backed up file, I got the same error...
[08:33] <HappyFool> imachine: i think i ended up ditching the modem applet and using pon/poff
[08:33] <imachine> wastrel, you can even use a gnome frontend for ocnfiggin network ;] 
[08:33] <imachine> HappyFool, hmmm.
[08:33] <ivo_> ok tnx anyway :(
[08:33] <Humanoid> ConfidentiaL, paste the error to me in private
[08:33] <imachine> HappyFool, i dont even use my modem ;]  its just there for 'flash' ;P
[08:33] <we2by_> how do I have numlock onw hen ubuntu start?
[08:33] <wastrel> imachine:  ah yes i always forget about that :] 
[08:33] <imachine> wastrel, ;] 
[08:33] <imachine> well. vim is your friend ofcourse.
[08:33] <imachine> or maybe lets say $EDITOR.
[08:33] <Humanoid> why don't people search first from the forums, then come ask here? :)
[08:34] <imachine> to be politcally correct ;] 
[08:34] <imachine> ;))
[08:34] <Humanoid> just a humble question :)
[08:34] <stuart__> searched no joy
[08:34] <imachine> Humanoid, i was going to say, put that information in the topic then, but i see it already is there ;d
[08:34] <Humanoid> imachine, yeah.. no use ;P
[08:34] <imachine> Humanoid, well i sit mostly in ##freebsd on freenode.
[08:34] <domjl> what's this "search" you speak of?  is that a Swedish work or something?
[08:34] <imachine> they have a nice policy regarding not reading the docu ;] 
[08:35] <imachine> ;p
[08:35] <ConfidentiaL> Humanoid : Its kinda long, and when I hit ok, the x system restarts, and the clipboard is empty...
[08:35] <imachine> tho i must say we are quite a happy and cool in the end bunch ;}
[08:35] <Humanoid> ConfidentiaL, broken X?
[08:35] <ConfidentiaL> Humanoid : U know a way to copy without clipboard emptying?
[08:35] <imachine> ConfidentiaL, middle mouse button ;] 
[08:36] <Gnumannen> okey dooglus, thanks, but what do I type when I have inserterd into .bashrc?
[08:36] <imachine> anyway.
[08:36] <Humanoid> imachine, middle mouse button pastes ;P
[08:36] <imachine> HappyFool, thanks for the clues :}
[08:36] <ConfidentiaL> imachine : Do that save the text???
[08:36] <imachine> Humanoid, oh, i read paste when he said copy ;d
[08:36] <imachine> ConfidentiaL, in some cache, yes.
[08:36] <HappyFool> imachine: np
[08:36] <imachine> i guess i will actually hang here.
[08:37] <imachine> it might be an interesting experience :-)
[08:37] <imachine> you dont have any nasty bots pm'ing over here do you? ;] 
[08:37] <shanonx> wastrel: after I add that then what?
[08:37] <wastrel> shanonx:  try sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[08:37] <imachine> 'man ifconfig'
[08:37] <imachine> ;d
[08:38] <ConfidentiaL> Humanoid : ok, I will try to use an other, more earlier backup...
[08:38] <we2by_> how do I have numlock onw hen ubuntu start?
[08:38] <shanonx> wastrel: eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:38] <imachine> we2by_, man bios
[08:38] <imachine> eh ;] 
[08:38] <imachine> ;P
[08:38] <rambo3> shanonx man interfaces
[08:38] <imachine> shanonx, ifconfig -a |grep eth0
[08:38] <imachine> shanonx, is it even there? ;] 
[08:38] <jsestri2> !pastebin
[08:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:39] <imachine> shanonx, dmesg |less and search for your eth card. if its not there, you must load the correct driver for it first.
[08:39] <imachine> module so to speak.
[08:39] <jsestri2> hi, I'm having trouble getting a Fresh installation of Dapper Flight 4 to recognize my onboard NIC. lspci out: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[08:40] <imachine> jsestri2, ah, High Deficition Audio controller
[08:40] <imachine> jsestri2, had a lot of pain with that at some time ;] 
[08:40] <imachine> ;p
[08:41] <randomity> Are there official EM64T kernel packages for Ubuntu?
[08:41] <jsestri2> imachine: hah, yeah i was talking to crimsun one day, and we determined it was not to be with Breezy, and he said use dapper flight 4, but NIC dosent work with it
[08:41] <imachine> jsestri2, its that marvell shit onboard eh?
[08:41] <eedge> How can I find out the sizes of all my partitions?
[08:41] <imachine> fbsd wouldnt recognize the damn card.
[08:41] <jsestri2> imachine: yeah
[08:41] <wastrel> eedge:  df -h
[08:41] <imachine> jsestri2, try project evil perhaphs? ;] 
[08:41] <eedge> my old menu.1st says its trying to boot from hda3...
[08:42] <imachine> dunno how linux stands with nic drivers. with drivers at all actually.
[08:42] <imachine> i just use linux i dont hack it :] 
[08:42] <sevtastic> hi room. i'm having difficulties starting my gdm. Xorg starts by itself but it won't load when i try to start gdm from init.d
[08:42] <eedge> and hda1 is apparently... /dev/hda3            2551        3570     8193150    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[08:42] <jsestri2> imachine: it said it detected firewire support, (it thought  it might be eth) but i dont have any firewire stuff on my comp
[08:42] <eedge> hda3 even
[08:42] <eedge> hda3 is apparently /dev/hda3            2551        3570     8193150    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[08:42] <sevtastic> i'm using nvidia's latest drivers. it was working until i rebooted.
[08:42] <imachine> jsestri2, well firewire is another thing; it can be used as a NIC as well.
[08:42] <imachine> thats why it might be ifconfigg'ed
[08:42] <imachine> ;p
[08:42] <sevtastic> i also tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers thinking that would be it...but no joy
[08:42] <eedge> is it possible the windows XP installation changed where my partitions are>
[08:42] <rambo3> sevstatic do you have any other x servers running
[08:43] <imachine> sevtastic, read your logs ? ;] 
[08:43] <sevtastic> rambo3: this is a fresh boot
[08:43] <Humanoid> sevtastic, did you change the Driver from xorg.conf from "nvidia" to "nv" (or which way was it..)
[08:43] <jsestri2> imachine: yeah well i'm pretty sure my MB dosent have any firewire on board, so i think it might be confused
[08:43] <sevtastic> imachine: i tried the obvious logs, nothing in there
[08:43] <imachine> jsestri2, ;o
[08:43] <aoimacollamain> anybody using ubuntu for basic web serving
[08:43] <imachine> sevtastic, but x starts ?
[08:43] <sevtastic> Humanoid: i see the nviidia splash screen and my mouse mooves but i crash immediately afterwards
[08:43] <imachine> if x starts then all should be well ;] 
[08:43] <sevtastic> imachine: yes. X starts on its own
[08:43] <sevtastic> when i run X from my shell, it works
[08:43] <Humanoid> sevtastic, ok.. then i cannot help :)
[08:43] <imachine> sevtastic, nothing on /var/log/messages, /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:44] <jsestri2> imachine: whats project evil?
[08:44] <eedge> anyway of showing sizes of unmounted partitions?
[08:44] <imachine> is it gnome that coredumps?
[08:44] <sevtastic> imachine: will nothing in Xorg log, let me check messages
[08:44] <sevtastic> brb
[08:44] <we2by_> how do u set window shadow for gnome?
[08:44] <imachine> jsestri2, :-) google is your friend i would guess ;>
[08:44] <Humanoid> we2by_, with composite
[08:44] <wastrel> trying to share my CUPS printer to LAN clients - i have Allow line in for the network, and listen open for port 631, but it isn't working - any ideas ?
[08:44] <imachine> jsestri2, but generally its an attempt to enable m$ win drivers on FreeBSD (and i think linux as well)
[08:44] <imachine> (mind you, *not* sure about linux)
[08:44] <imachine> ;] 
[08:44] <jsestri2> imachine: hmmmm
[08:45] <sevtastic> imachine: nothing in /var/log/messages about failures
[08:45] <imachine> jsestri2, its called the ndisulator as well.
[08:45] <Spudchat> hi, i installed a server and would like to disable the tty2-6 from loading
[08:45] <imachine> goes by many names ;] 
[08:45] <imachine> sevtastic, well. but what. does your gnome session coredump or what
[08:45] <imachine> ;] 
[08:45] <Spudchat> or respawning, what would i set the respawn value to?
[08:45] <imachine> if you make a different session, say twm.
[08:45] <imachine> it works?
[08:45] <ciga> Spudchat: /etc/inittab
[08:45] <imachine> if it does then its a gnome issue.
[08:45] <jsestri2> imachine: i guess i'd rather go for it being found the right way. I'm in breezy right now using it, so it can't be impossible!
[08:45] <imachine> check your install i would gues.
[08:45] <sevtastic> imachine: let me try that, brb
[08:45] <imachine> jsestri2, well.
[08:46] <Spudchat> change the valuse to what though is the question? is 0 diabled?
[08:46] <imachine> jsestri2, if breezy finds it. then its just a dapper issue.
[08:46] <imachine> jsestri2, blame yourself for running 'current' ;>
[08:46] <jsestri2> imachine: haha, do you think it warrents a bug?
[08:46] <imachine> well more likely than stable versions/editions.
[08:46] <imachine> jsestri2, either way, unless youre one of those hacky kids, i suggest wait for dapper-release ;p
[08:47] <imachine> jsestri2, why change something, that works? :>
[08:47] <RichART1> !seem TokenBad
[08:47] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RichART1
[08:47] <jsestri2> imachine: waiting for "releases" is not one of the reasons i want to be a computer engineer
[08:47] <imachine> jsestri2, dapper and breezy use the same kernel?
[08:47] <imachine> jsestri2, i dont know your reasons man :-)
[08:47] <imachine> do as you please, but expect problems.
[08:48] <imachine> i dont even know how ubuntu releasing works anyway. mayhap i am wrong ;] 
[08:48] <jsestri2> imachine: the onboard sound card i have, causes problems with ALSA, and something else in breezy, i was told that this is fixed in dapper, and was recommended to upgrade
[08:48] <imachine> ah.
[08:48] <imachine> ;] 
[08:48] <jsestri2> imachine: i was talking to crimsun, i don't know if you know him, he seemed to know his ubuntu sound though
[08:48] <we2by_> Comment out means remove the #?
[08:48] <imachine> maybe just upgrade your kernel and use a backport of alsa/alsa-lib from dapper?
[08:48] <Karlvw> NEWBIE question... :)
[08:49] <imachine> jsestri2, dunno crimsun; i am here since 20 minutes maybe.
[08:49] <imachine> ;] 
[08:49] <ivo_> imachine i need to change my sources files help plz ?
[08:49] <jsestri2> imachine: hah, alright, i've seen him logged in pretty much any time i've been on
[08:49] <ivo_> when i instal its erors
[08:49] <tritium_> ivo_: do you need to add repositories, or what?
[08:49] <alumno> hello
[08:49] <ivo_> yes
[08:49] <ivo_> u right
[08:49] <ivo_> i need
[08:49] <ivo_> repo...
[08:50] <Karlvw> I want ot migrate from WinBLOWS to UBUNTO... I have lots of files on other systems in my house (All WinBLOWS) workstations.  How do I automount some of these shares in UBUNTO :)
[08:50] <djp> does anyone know when a fix for the subtitles and language issue in relation to totem-xine, will be addressed for breezy?
[08:50] <tritium_> ivo_: please don't use enter key so frequently
[08:50] <jsestri2> !tell ivo_ about repo
[08:50] <imachine> i never had problems with ubuntu before; i dig debian finding it to be one of the only logical linux distros out there; and since FreeBSD has issues with certain things on this laptop; i tried the wonderful service of sending cd's to people with ubuntu and here i am :] 
[08:50] <jsestri2> !repo
[08:50] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jsestri2
[08:50] <imachine> oh, and while im here. another question mayhap.
[08:50] <alumno> who speak spanish here??
[08:50] <jsestri2> !repositories
[08:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:50] <imachine> i have an issue with cpufreq on this laptop.
[08:50] <imachine> its a pentium-4 M.
[08:50] <jsestri2> !tell ivo_ about repositories
[08:50] <munzir> Hi, mysql -uroot -h127.0.0.1 works but mysql -uroot -h192.168.0.110 gives a "Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.0.110' (111)" error, why?!!
[08:50] <imachine> not a pentium-m mind you.
[08:51] <yanis> can I use XGLHOWTO to my ubuntu5.10?
[08:51] <wastrel> !es
[08:51] <jsestri2> habla un pocoo
[08:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:51] <imachine> in freebsd i could scale it all the way down to 150Mhz. in Ubuntu, i can only achieve two frequencies. thats very tough :[
[08:51] <alumno> hola??
[08:51] <we2by_> E: Couldn't find package compiz
[08:51] <ciprian> How do I enable Compwiz?
[08:51] <ciprian> And Zgl?
[08:51] <wastrel> alumno:  #ubuntu-es
[08:51] <jsestri2> es mas mejor si usa las otras channels
[08:51] <ciprian> *And xggl?
[08:51] <rambo3> who made usplash ?
[08:52] <ivo_> Ok i love u all tnxx :D
[08:52] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[08:52] <alumno> no hay nadie que hable espaol?
[08:52] <tritium_> alumno: #ubuntu-es !
[08:52] <_jason> alumno: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:52] <ailean> va a #ubuntu-es
[08:52] <RedWolles> i need help
[08:52] <imachine> ciprian, what is compwiz? :o
[08:52] <linuxboyfriend> I have downloaded KDE from download.kde.org (tar.bz2) can I install it by apt?
[08:53] <RedWolles> ich brauche hilfe
[08:53] <_jason> !de
[08:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:53] <jimcooncat> RedWolles, what you need?
[08:53] <jsestri2> hay otra pais donde hablen espanol
[08:53] <ciprian> imachine: opengl rendering compozing system
[08:53] <djp> does anyone know when a fix for the subtitles and language issue in relation to totem-xine, will be addressed for breezy?
[08:53] <ailean> pero puede hablar ingles aqui
[08:53] <imachine> i think i will have to do some googling :-)
[08:53] <imachine> ciprian, okay thank you :)
[08:53] <tritium_> linuxboyfriend: there are ubuntu packages of kde that you can install instead
[08:53] <soundray> Hi... what am I to make of a "Drive ready, seek complete" error in the logs?
[08:53] <RedWolles> ja aber da will mir keiner so recht helfen
[08:53] <Fonzie2_> i have problem with audigy LS, sounds buzzing all the time. can somebody help me?
[08:53] <soundray> RedWolles, I will meet you there.
[08:54] <RedWolles> thanks
[08:54] <linuxboyfriend> tritium_: no i wanna know that can I install that kde packages by apt?
[08:54] <dom> linuxboyfriend: run synaptic under your system menu.  search for kde and you'll find everything you need (and lots more).  get at least kdebase and kde-core
[08:54] <tritium_> linuxboyfriend: nope, not those
[08:54] <ciprian> how do I enable XGL ?
[08:54] <tritium_> linuxboyfriend: if you want kde, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:54] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with my fresh install of dapper, its not recognizing my onboard NIC, here's an lspci from under breezy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[08:54] <wastrel> hola, cups won't accept network printers, I need some help getting it configured for sharing <3
[08:54] <thegladiator> hi
[08:55] <kleinlappies> how do i get these values HorizSync ??  VertRefresh ?? pls want to watch movies on my tv
[08:55] <thegladiator> kleinlappies, it will be specified by monitor mtr
[08:55] <thegladiator> manufacturer
[08:55] <nickrud> wastrel, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ch04s09.html ?
[08:55] <linuxboyfriend> tritium_: and if I try to install that packages (.tar.bz2) then how can I put an entry for kde in gdm
[08:56] <defrysk> linuxboyfriend, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[08:56] <tritium_> linuxboyfriend: I've already told you how to install a kde desktop in ubuntu
[08:56] <kleinlappies> thegladiator sorry what is mtr?
[08:56] <Twisty> Hey can someone give me some direction on installing Mplayer
[08:56] <nickrud> !mplayer
[08:56] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:56] <thegladiator> manufacturer sorry*
[08:56] <linuxboyfriend> defrysk: actually I am on dialup thats why can not do it now :)
[08:56] <nickrud> Twisty, the ubotu above was for you
[08:56] <ciprian> someone knows how to enable XGL/compwiz on Ubuntu Dapper?
[08:56] <defrysk> linuxboyfriend, then you have a prob
[08:56] <_jason> !xgl
[08:57] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:57] <tritium_> ciprian: read the info linked on fridge.ubuntu.com
[08:57] <Twisty> I know thanks :)
[08:57] <ciprian> ubotu: thank you
[08:57] <ubotu> gern geschehen, ciprian
[08:57] <kleinlappies> thegladiator cool well what about a standard laptop sceen
[08:57] <eedge>  Ooooooooooooook
[08:57] <wastrel> nickrud:  thx, looking
[08:57] <Humanoid> i found instructions how to enable Xgl for xfce :)
[08:57] <linuxboyfriend> defrysk: wondering that can i install that packages which i downloaded from kde.org
[08:57] <djmccormick_> where are the settings controlling which things are mounted on startup?
[08:57] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with my fresh install of dapper, its not recognizing my onboard NIC????? here's an lspci from under breezy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[08:57] <eedge> I think I've found my problem, my menu.1st completely disagrees with the truth...
[08:57] <kleinlappies> thegladiator i had a look around
[08:57] <ConfidentiaL> If u remember my problem, it says I should look at the ~/.xsession-errors file, but I cant find it... Any1 know where to find it? Or maybe how to fix it(maybe a backup of this file?)?
[08:57] <djmccormick_> i have hda1 and hdb1 mounting, and would prefer they not mount
[08:57] <thegladiator> kleinlappies, there is something called  a generic LCD monitor that you can choose for a standard LCD screen
[08:57] <eedge> it thinks root = hda2! and thats where xp is now installed.
[08:57] <defrysk> linuxboyfriend, not in a way that is supported here, sorry
[08:58] <eedge> .... and it thinks the kernel is in hda3 and I think its now in hda4.
[08:58] <thegladiator> kleinlappies, check ur monitor typt
[08:58] <linuxboyfriend> defrysk: ok np thanks
[08:58] <eedge> what do I change hda2 to though?
[08:58] <ConfidentiaL> If u remember my problem, it says I should look at the ~/.xsession-errors file, but I cant find it... Any1 know where to find it? Or maybe how to fix it(maybe a backup of this file?)?
[08:58] <kleinlappies> thegladiator i have that but in my xorg.conf i need to enter those values
[08:58] <jsestri2> ConfidentiaL: slocate?
[08:58] <Mordof> can anyone help me with folder permissions? i need to know how to make it so that my user and apache can both read/write/exec without using the Other permissions (like 555 or somthing)
[08:58] <thegladiator> ask someone who has LCD...someone might know the standard for LCD's
[08:58] <nickrud> ConfidentiaL, ~ (tilde) stands for your home directory, so that's where you'll find it
[08:58] <thegladiator> I am on a crt atm
[08:59] <sippo> hello.. would enybody be helpfull and help guide me thrugh reinstalling ubuntu. im scared of formatting somthing wrong
[08:59] <Jemt> Greetings. Is there a program available for Ubuntu which makes it possible to resize a folder full of images (create thumbnails) ?
[08:59] <Humanoid> sippo, backup your /home
[08:59] <Mordof> sippo, its really simple and straight forward, you cant screw it up. just backup everything you wanna keep and you're good to go
[08:59] <thegladiator> gtg brl
[08:59] <thegladiator> bbl*
[08:59] <hypnox> sippo , why do you want to reinstall?
[08:59] <La_PaRCa> tritium, tritium_ I own a Toshiba Tecra A2. Are you gonna test Flight 4 on it or do you want me to do it?
[08:59] <mamefan> Jemt: ImageMagick
[08:59] <sippo> and i can't just backup 120 gigs
[09:00] <Jemt> mamefan: Thanks, checking it out :)
[09:00] <tritium_> La_PaRCa: I will as soon as it is returned to me from repair ;)
[09:00] <djp> does anyone here use totem-xine to watch movies? (avi, ogm etc)
[09:00] <Mordof> sippo, is your /home on a seperate partition?
[09:00] <linuxboyfriend> defrysk: is it possible that i can download kde at some other PC (with apt) and then bring to my PC (via flash drive)?
[09:00] <tritium_> La_PaRCa: I _have_ to anyway, since I have the machine from Canonical
[09:00] <jsestri2> tritium: how essential is a network connection to installing Dapper flight 4?
[09:00] <Mordof> linuxboyfriend, yeah.... its possible. i dont know how to do it but it can be done
[09:01] <jsestri2> tritium_: how essential is a network connection to installing Dapper flight 4?
[09:01] <jpiermarini> this may be a foolish question, as i think i already know the answer, however i'm going to ask it just to make sure. now i am only running ubuntu on this machine, and i have added a second hard drive. i have partioned it, formatted it and mounted it. i even created an entry in fstab. my question is if i go into places then computer will i not see the drive listed along with the floppy drive and cd drives and filesystem?
[09:01] <La_PaRCa> tritium_, figured as much, but since I own the machine and am about to do a fresh Dapper install mise well.
[09:01] <sambagirl> i need to copy some files from another pc on the lan to this pc to a mounted windows drive, i am using liive cd on this pc. how can i do this? do i need ot be root? it says i dont have permissions. how do i give myself permissions or put myself into that mode to complette this task?
[09:01] <Zoroaster> I have a question, I am preparing everyone.
[09:01] <nickrud> Jemt, imagemagick, and a decent howto is at http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/graphics/imagick6/thumbnails/#creation
[09:01] <linuxboyfriend> Mordof: can you give me the link, I can read all by myself :)
[09:01] <Mordof> linuxboyfriend, find the files you downloaded from apt, then you need to make some config files (i think) for your flash drive to tell apt on your pc what your flash drive has.. then you need to configure your pc apt to include your flash drive as a repo
[09:01] <jsestri2> La_PaRCa: have you ever had trouble with the NIC and a fresh install of Dapper Flight 4?
[09:01] <ivo_> how to i open source list what is the comand ? :)
[09:01] <ConfidentiaL> I didnt find the error file in my home directory...
[09:01] <sippo> Mordof: can i write you personally maybe i could explain it better
[09:02] <La_PaRCa> jsestri2, this is the first time I am installing dapper.
[09:02] <tritium_> La_PaRCa: you're free to test it, of course, but I'll have to update the Tecra A2 page when I get the laptop back from repair
[09:02] <Mordof> linuxboyfriend, i dont know any links for it, but i know that when i was using dapper... dapper automatically had its cd listed in the repos
[09:02] <Mordof> sippo, yeah sure
[09:02] <linuxboyfriend> Mordof: by the way where does apt saves file in Hard disk?
[09:02] <Zoroaster> I am running VMware,  virtual machine, windows xp, I went into full screen on my virtual machine, and now after leaving full screen, my ubuntu desktop is smaller and is bordered by black, so howo do I make my desktop stretch across again
[09:02] <Mordof> linuxboyfriend, dont know..
[09:02] <ivo_> how to i open source list what is the comand ? :)....
[09:02] <stanley^> hey, there is still a problem with the language selection in dapper drake fourth flight cd. Isn't it going to be fixed sometime ?
[09:02] <nickrud> linkd, /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:02] <tritium_> linuxboyfriend: /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:02] <La_PaRCa> tritium_, Ill keep you posted on how it goes then.
[09:02] <tritium_> La_PaRCa: cool, thanks
[09:02] <nickrud> error27, sorry linkd
[09:03] <ivo_> how to i open source list what is the comand ? :)..............
[09:03] <Mordof> sippo, make sure you are registered before you try to message somebody
[09:03] <monteiro> anyone running xgl and nvidia ?
[09:03] <linuxboyfriend> tritium_ thanks
[09:03] <soundray> RedWolles, are you still here?
[09:03] <_jason> ivo_: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:03] <Humanoid> Zoroaster, change your dimension trough xorg.conf
[09:03] <tritium_> La_PaRCa: we'll form the Tecra alliance ;)
[09:03] <Humanoid> Zoroaster, then it works with VMWare :)
[09:03] <ivo_> jason i love u tnx :D
[09:03] <Zoroaster> Humanoid, thank you
[09:03] <jochs> Does anyone know how to disable the screen saver on the login screen (gdm)?
[09:03] <La_PaRCa> tritium_, I just want my damn machine working right with dapper, thats all. Its best for me, and I guess it helps the community.
[09:04] <ivo_> :)))
[09:04] <Humanoid> jochs, from the GDM Setup
[09:04] <Pygi> La_parca: what's the problem?
[09:04] <ConfidentiaL> if I have problems with a so called xsession file, what do I fo to fix this?
[09:04] <Zoroaster> Humanoid, but what do I do once i open thet file - xorg.conf?
[09:04] <tritium_> La_PaRCa: indeed.  Sorry for my down-time.  My hard drive failed :(
[09:04] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with my fresh install of dapper, its not recognizing my onboard NIC????? here's an lspci from under breezy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[09:04] <nickrud> !tell Zoroaster about fixres
[09:04] <_jason> !dapper
[09:04] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[09:04] <La_PaRCa> tritium_, better you than me.
[09:04] <tritium_> gee, thanks ;)
[09:04] <Humanoid> Zoroaster, there's a resolution lines at the bottom, change them
[09:04] <La_PaRCa> Ok, now... where did I leave that CD-RW...?
[09:05] <jochs> Humanoid - I'll try that - back in a second...
[09:05] <Zoroaster> ok, thank you
[09:07] <Humanoid> damn, it takes forever to get account to gnome-look.org
[09:07] <Fonzie2_> i have problem with my audigy LS, sounds buzzing all the time. can somebody help me?
[09:07] <Humanoid> Fonzie2_, what player? oss? alsa?
[09:07] <Fonzie2_> alsa
[09:07] <sambagirl> i need to copy some files from another pc on the lan to this pc to a mounted windows drive, i am using liive cd on this pc. how can i do this? do i need ot be root? it says i dont have permissions. how do i give myself permissions or put myself into that mode to complette this task?
[09:07] <Humanoid> Fonzie2_, try to change it oss? :)
[09:08] <Fonzie2_> ok :)
[09:08] <monteiro> anyone has xgl with nvidia ?
[09:09] <Mordof> me
[09:09] <trappist> monteiro: there's an #ubuntu-xgl channel.  you might ask in there.
[09:10] <Jemt> Hm, I have just installed ImageMagick - but I can't seem to find the program anywhere. "image" followed by <tab> in a console gives nothing. Suggestions?
[09:10] <SonicYooth> Umm I'm getting an error "Klauncher could not be reached via DCOP" when trying to use Katapult in gnome... any one experienced this before?
[09:10] <monteiro> trappist: tks
[09:10] <AnsiC> helllo
[09:10] <AnsiC> how can i configure bluetooth
[09:10] <trappist> Jemt: it's a lot of programs.  dpkg -L imagemagick | grep bin
[09:10] <nickrud> Jemt, it comes with several different tools: dpkg -L imagemagick | grep bin will show the commands
[09:10] <AnsiC> for send some files to my mobil telefon
[09:10] <trappist> don't listen to nickrud
[09:10] <AnsiC> ???
[09:11] <Jemt> Oh
[09:11] <Jemt> Ok, thanks, nickrud and trappist
[09:11] <Jemt> Is there a graphical program available for Ubuntu which makes it possible to create thumbnails ?
[09:11] <Mordof> Gimp?
[09:11] <trappist> Jemt: zillions of them.  most of them use imagemagick.
[09:12] <nickrud> I think gthumb does?
[09:12] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with my fresh install of dapper, its not recognizing my onboard NIC??? here's an lspci from under breezy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[09:12] <wastrel> bah
[09:12] <trappist> Jemt: for example, mkdir thumbs;for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 80x80 "$i" "thumbs/$i";done
[09:12] <AnsiC> how can i configure bluetooth for send some files to my telefon ???
[09:12] <Jemt> trappist: Great, thanks :)
[09:13] <The_Visitor> Hey, can someone help me figure out how to install the driver for my printer? I suck at script and the cut-and-paste's aren't working...
[09:14] <The_Visitor> Hey, can someone help me figure out how to install the driver for my printer? I suck at script and the cut-and-paste's aren't working... anyone?
[09:14] <tritium_> The_Visitor: please don't repeat.
[09:14] <stanley^> hey, is keyboard language selection in ubuntu ever going to work ? :)
[09:15] <The_Visitor> Ick...noted
[09:15] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-bluetooth-manager
[09:15] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-obex-server
[09:15] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-obex-send
[09:15] <AnsiC> i need to install more ??
[09:15] <The_Visitor> Stan: probably not :P
[09:16] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with my fresh install of dapper, its not recognizing my onboard NIC??? here's an lspci from under breezy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[09:16] <tritium_> jsestri2: you've been repeating a lot too
[09:16] <nysosym> Hello :D
[09:16] <The_Visitor> hm. can someone at least tell me where I can find out about the printer driver?
[09:16] <gleesond> I was trying to set up my screen saver but my monitor turns off after the screen saver has been on for a bit. how can I make it so my monitor takes longer to turn off?
[09:16] <jsestri2> tritium: sorry, just figure i'd repeat it now and again, as people come and go.
[09:17] <jsestri2> tritium, i still have yet to get any real advice
[09:17] <sippo> dose enybody in here know how you update and old ubuntu to the new one without internet. but with a cd ?
[09:17] <tritium_> jsestri2: be patient
[09:18] <rehpotsirhc> sippo, yeah, you can list the cd in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <rehpotsirhc> then comment out all the internet repositories and to a dist-upgrade
[09:18] <Seveas> !tell jsestri2 about supporrt
[09:18] <pete_> HOW DO I CLEAR THE PRINTING JOBS QUEUE ?
[09:18] <Seveas> pete_, by not shouting
[09:18] <amphi> pete_: by shouting
[09:18] <jsestri2> !support
[09:18] <ubotu> from memory, support is not limited to IRC. Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/support for more options.
[09:18] <amphi> heh
[09:18] <rehpotsirhc> sippo, are you trying to upgrade from warty to breezy?
[09:18] <pete_> somone please tell me
[09:18] <joelbryan> amphi:  Hi, still there?
[09:19] <Seveas> pete_, man lprm
[09:19] <sippo> rehpotsirhc okay thanks im gonna try that. but im kinda fumbeling in the dark :D
[09:19] <amgad> guys, i need help with apache and dyndns..
[09:19] <amgad> can any one help please??
[09:19] <joelbryan> amphi:  Hi, still there?
[09:19] <rehpotsirhc> sippo, you're running warty and you want to upgrade to breezy, correct?
[09:19] <rehpotsirhc> or is it breezy to dapper?
[09:19] <shikamaru85> anyone what i gotta do to get php console up in running in ubuntu?
[09:20] <AnsiC> what i must install for use bluetooth
[09:20] <AnsiC> ???
[09:20] <Seveas> AnsiC, the 3 you mentioned should drag in what's needed
[09:20] <Seveas> gnome bluetooth is a bit underdeveloped (and the breezy packages for bluez are a bit sketchy)
[09:20] <AnsiC> E: Impossibile trovare gnome-bluetooth-manager
[09:20] <sippo> rehpotsirhc if the horry hedhogde to what ever is new..
[09:20] <sippo> its^
[09:20] <no0tic> ndiswrapper 1.8 doesn't let me connect to my wpa encrypted wireless lan, with previous kernel (2.6.15-8-383) & ndiswrapper 1.5 all was working fine, what can I do?
[09:21] <AnsiC> i need correct name of pakages
[09:21] <sippo> somthing like that i think
[09:21] <The_Visitor> ubotu: True, but none of the alternitives worked...
[09:21] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, The_Visitor
[09:21] <jochs> Humanoid - I can't find any screensaver settings in Login Screen Setup
[09:21] <amphi> AnsiC: apt-cache search is your friend
[09:21] <jochs> So, still trying to figure out how to get rid of the screen saver on the login screen (gdm).
[09:22] <jsestri2> could anyone explain how i would go about upgrading the stuff that runs sound on breezy to the dapper version?
[09:22] <djmccormick_> where are the settings controlling which things are mounted on startup?
[09:23] <The_Visitor> Sooo.... anybody? I just need help on getting the HpLip driver in...
[09:23] <hackel_> djmccormick_:  /etc/fstab
[09:23] <hackel_> The_Visitor:  It's installed by default (I just disabled it on mine!)
[09:23] <The_Visitor> Ack >.< but it only scans a little line thingy
[09:24] <pete_> somone please help, my printer has a queue that i cant seem to get rid of ..
[09:24] <The_Visitor> Pete, try rebooting...
[09:24] <shikamaru85> anyone here running apache2 + php successfully?
[09:24] <pete_> doesnt help
[09:24] <fei> startkeylogger
[09:25] <hackel_> The_Visitor:  You're running Linux, not Windows.  Rebooting is NEVER the answer.
[09:25] <pete_> can somone help -___--
[09:25] <The_Visitor> Aiieee, and thus my knowledge of Linux has been proved. Zip.
[09:26] <The_Visitor> Installed it five days ago, and have another 2 before my dear mother makes me reinstall WinXP
[09:26] <The_Visitor> lol
[09:26] <mamefan> hackel_:  I just updated my kernel.  How do I start using it?
[09:26] <jsestri2> hackel_ unless you mess with the kernel :-P
[09:26] <LjL-Dinner> The_Visitor: you can dual boot
[09:26] <hackel_> mamefan:  lol, touche. :-P
[09:26] <jsestri2> mamefan: restart
[09:26] <The_Visitor> *sob* Time to go google Dual Boot
[09:27] <djmccormick_> hackel_, can i just remove the two lines regarding the drives i don't want mounted?
[09:27] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-bluetooth obexftp obexserver
[09:27] <shikamaru85> anyone know how i can check / add / remove what services run on boot?
[09:27] <AnsiC> i need more ???'
[09:27] <hackel_> The_Visitor:  tell your mother to get a life, and show her how to use the OS.
[09:27] <LjL> The_Visitor: well, you need two partitions. if you install windows first, and ubuntu later, the ubuntu installer will simply make the arrangements for dual booting
[09:27] <fidelo> alguien que hable espaol?
[09:27] <hackel_> djmccormick_:  Yes, if you never want to mount them, or use noauto option.
[09:27] <debianized> hola mruiz
[09:27] <Twisty> Where do I update my GCC Version for MPlayer it doesn't like 2.96
[09:27] <LjL> The_Visitor: if you install windows later, it might be a bit harder, as windows tends to overwrite the boot record...
[09:28] <Twisty> !GCC
[09:28] <ubotu> methinks gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[09:28] <The_Visitor> Thanks
[09:28] <mruiz> hola debianized
[09:28] <kleinlappies> ati mobility tv out can anyone help
[09:28] <djmccormick_> how do you view file as super user
[09:28] <colm> shikamaru85,  system > admin > services
[09:28] <colm> !es
[09:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:28] <wastrel> Twisty:  why are you compiling mplayer?
[09:28] <mae> hey guys where can i get debs that have been phased out of the current apt repository
[09:28] <hackel_> Twisty:  Where'd you get 2.96 on Ubuntu?
[09:28] <LjL> djmccormick_: "sudo less file"
[09:28] <mae> for dapper
[09:28] <binarydigit> djmccormick_: use sudo
[09:28] <mae> i need a slightly older kernel
[09:28] <mae> alsa is screwed in the current 1 for me
[09:28] <Twisty> I'm compling it so I can use it.
[09:28] <wastrel> why don't you install the package?
[09:28] <Twisty> the packagE?
[09:29] <wastrel> are you familiar with synaptic?
[09:29] <djmccormick_> thanks guy :)
[09:29] <Twisty> I just opened it yes.
[09:29] <djmccormick_> *s
[09:29] <djmccormick_> bbiab
[09:29] <wastrel> !mplayer
[09:29] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:29] <LjL> Twisty: don't compile stuff unless you're sure it's not in the repositories.
[09:29] <AnsiC> someone can tall me the addres of bluetooth guide ????
[09:29] <Twisty> Man I suck at this lol
[09:30] <LjL> Twisty: ubotu's sent you some useful pointers
[09:30] <AnsiC> i do not find the same guide that i use sometime ago
[09:30] <Twisty> I know
[09:30] <Twisty> Looking at themnow
[09:33] <benplaut> anyone here gotten InitNG to work with dapper?
[09:33] <wastrel> I'm trying to print to a shared CUPS printer over the network, but it's not working - i've set cups to allow LAN ip's to print. what else should I look at?
[09:34] <kleinlappies> any other sites i can try for some help ---Anyone?
[09:36] <exxpert_> !mp3
[09:36] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:36] <kleinlappies> my openoffice crashes when i start it soffice crashed is vthe erross
[09:36] <kleinlappies> my openoffice crashes when i start it soffice crashed is vthe error
[09:36] <joelbryan> amphi: Hi, still there?
[09:36] <amgad> guys, i need help with dyndns, please
[09:36] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Is there a way to disable password protection of a Samba share?
[09:37] <amgad> anybody can help me in dyndns??
[09:37] <mamefan> amgad: what do you need.
[09:37] <LjL> Nunquam_Fidelis: what about an empty password? and why would you do that?
[09:37] <Nunquam_Fidelis> LjL: That would still require a username to be used though, right?
[09:37] <kleinlappies> openoffice 2 issues
[09:37] <amgad> mamefan, thx, my dyndns account is updated with my latest ip, but i cant acces my home page through it
[09:38] <hackel_> I would like to know if there's any way to disable the default password for gnome-keyring so I don't have to enter it each time I log in for NetworkManager to connect me to my WLAN...
[09:38] <amgad> mamefan, and am sure apache is running, i can acces it using my ip
[09:38] <jochs> Still trying to figure out how to get rid of the screen saver on the login screen (gdm). It turns off the monitor (or puts it in low power mode) and any attempts to VNC in are greeted with an enormous X11 logo.
[09:38] <LjL> Nunquam_Fidelis: yes. to avoid that, you can set "share" level security. i think it's all explained in the samba howto. it boils down to putting "security = share" in the share config, though i don't think that's *quite* all there is to it
[09:38] <wastrel> what URI should i use to access my CUPS printer on my breezy desktop?
[09:38] <kleinlappies> tv out on laptop
[09:39] <LjL> wastrel: i think it's disabled by default. it would be http://localhost:631 anyway
[09:40] <wastrel> LjL:  i'm printing over the LAN, i set an allow line for the LAN ip's in cupsd.conf... not sure what else should be needed
[09:40] <jessy> i've installed compiz on my breezy, some commands work like alt-tab, window can be transparent, the minimizing is animated etc but alt+ctrl+arrow left/right don't changing the workspace :s
[09:40] <amgad> mamefan, are you still with me??
[09:40] <joelbryan> amphi: Hi, still there?
[09:40] <LjL> wastrel: well, here the page loads, but mentions "Administrative options are disabled for security reasons". i don't really know how to re-enable them
[09:40] <gleesond> I can't seem to find the settings anywhere to make it so it takes longer for my monitor to turn off can anyone help
[09:40] <mamefan> sorta....
[09:41] <wastrel> LjL:  that's for configuration, i'm trying to send a print job
[09:41] <LjL> wastrel: oh. then i wouldn't know
[09:41] <colm> gleesond, system > preferences > power management
[09:42] <colm> gleesond, it may be your monitor settings too
[09:42] <mamefan> does 'dig <name>' give the correct IP?
[09:42] <mamefan> or 'nslookup <name>'?
[09:43] <LjL> mamefan: not sure, never used dig, but why don't you just try ping? that will tell you what the ip your system is actually trying to use it
[09:43] <LjL> is
[09:44] <ivo_> Hi again :) where i can download a web server php mysql apache ? :)
[09:45] <LjL> !tell ivo_ about lamp
[09:45] <speyer> why dont use apt ?
[09:45] <ivo_> Big big tnx :)
[09:46] <jariep1_> hi all
[09:46] <ivo_> hi
[09:46] <aluno> oi
[09:47] <joelbryan> amphi: Hi, still there?
[09:47] <Wenderlan> opa
[09:47] <Wenderlan> blz aluno
[09:48] <shikamaru85> anyone know of any cool apps that monitor disk usage, mem an so on?
[09:48] <lampshade> So, I installed KDE, and then removed KDE, now I want to remove all the extra stuff it added like all the kde games,   any ideas on an easy way to do that?
[09:49] <bill> do i have to do anything special to enable hibernation and suspend-to-memory on my laptop?
[09:49] <hackel_> bill:  Yes, it's buggy and still won't work right for me.
[09:50] <LjL> lampshade: it would have been easy if you had used aptitude to install it in the first place.
[09:50] <kleinlappies> what is a nice kde splash screen editor
[09:50] <LjL> lampshade: your best bet now would probably be to remove the core KDE libraries (or even QT), as that will remove most/all KDE programs
[09:51] <nitelizard> shikamaru85: have you tried conky
[09:51] <lampshade> LjL, I used apt, isn't aptitude just a frontend for that anyway?
[09:51] <LjL> lampshade: no
[09:51] <bill> hackel_, ah
[09:51] <bill> hackel_, right now nothing happens when i use the suspend and hibernate options in the shut down dialog
[09:51] <LjL> lampshade: when you "sudo aptitude install <package>", aptitude remembers which package(s) you actually installed and which ones were simply installed automatically as dependencies
[09:52] <maria> does anyone know what this means, i get this error when i try to run gaim; *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x08255b10 ***
[09:52] <maria> Aborted
[09:52] <jsestri2> is there a way to see what modules are loaded?
[09:52] <AnsiC> root@hostname:/home/user# hidd --search
[09:52] <AnsiC> Searching ...
[09:52] <AnsiC>         No devices in range or visible
[09:52] <LjL> lampshade: when you remove the manually installed packages, aptitude will then remove all the dependencies it had installed, if no package is using them anymore
[09:52] <hackel_> bill:  Check out suspend2.net I've been meaning to try it but no time.
[09:52] <estudiante> hola
[09:52] <LjL> Jestre: "lsmod"
[09:52] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-bluetooth obexftp obexserver bluez-utils
[09:52] <AnsiC> /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart
[09:53] <bad_iNFO> YO
[09:53] <bad_iNFO> someone help me out
[09:53] <bad_iNFO> new to linux and to to find help on linux
[09:54] <wastrel> trying to configure cups to allow printing over the network.  i set an allow line for my LAN IP's but it's not working... i think i may just have the wrong URI for the printers on the client side...
[09:54] <hackel_> bad_iNFO:  The whole web is FULL of help on linux.
[09:54] <ailean> what are you trying to do bad_iNFO
[09:54] <ailean> there's loads of info
[09:54] <colm> bad_iNFO, you've come to the right place :-)
[09:54] <bad_iNFO> i'm triing to figure out how to play wmv files
[09:54] <bad_iNFO> and the proper way to install app's
[09:54] <LjL> !tell bad_iNFO about restrictedformats
[09:55] <lampshade> LjL, aptitude has some of the programs listed and checked as installed, when unchecking it errors out and says no unless I use advance mode. Is there perhaps one other program I can remove like you said some library or something that would end take the rest with it.  Or could I just install KDE from aptitude, and then remove it that way?
[09:55] <LjL> !tell bad_iNFO about apt
[09:55] <hackel_> bad_iNFO:  Before you do anything to view WMV's, email your content provider and tell them not to use proprietary formats.
[09:55] <LjL> lampshade: no, you can't use aptitude to install and remove now, as it will keep the packages you installed using apt-get (or synaptic or whatever)
[09:55] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-bluetooth obexftp obexserver bluez-utils
[09:55] <AnsiC> /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart
[09:55] <AnsiC> hidd --search
[09:55] <AnsiC> Searching ...
[09:55] <AnsiC>         No devices in range or visible
[09:56] <Twisty> !cedega
[09:56] <LjL> lampshade: anyway, i'm not familiar with the graphical interface of aptitude, i only use "sudo aptitude install" and "sudo aptitude remove", so i don't know about unchecking and advanced mode
[09:56] <bad_iNFO> am i suppose to do my installs from a console?\
[09:56] <LjL> !tell bad_iNFO about synaptic
[09:56] <NetGeek> what do people use for a podcast client?
[09:56] <hackel_> AnsiC:  This is IRC, not a console.
[09:57] <LjL> lampshade: right now, i would try "sudo apt-get remove kdelibs", and see what packages that would remove
[09:57] <bad_iNFO> i know that
[09:57] <bad_iNFO> i know the simple point and click stuff
[09:57] <LjL> bad_iNFO: know what?
[09:57] <bad_iNFO> but i can't figure how to add stuff to this
[09:57] <LjL> bad_iNFO: well, then you know that the answer to your question about installing from a console is "no"
[09:57] <bad_iNFO> or how to install new programs
[09:57] <tax0n> is there not a command called something like 'clean all' which removes programs and libraries which no longer have a use?
[09:57] <lewwy> ubotu: tell lewwy about dapper
[09:57] <Seveas> tax0n, debfoster
[09:57] <LjL> bad_iNFO: well, read about synaptic. that *does* let you install new programs
[09:57] <maria> or can anyone help me install gaim 2.0 beta 2 from a tar.gz file?
[09:58] <hackel_> tax0n:  debfoster?
[09:58] <Niekie> !repositories
[09:58] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:58] <bad_iNFO> i don't know what a synaptic is
[09:58] <bad_iNFO> sorry
[09:58] <bad_iNFO> i'm new
[09:58] <bad_iNFO> i can't even belive i figured out how to install this lol
[09:58] <tax0n> Seveas, hackel_ , I'm thinking of a command for apt to help lampshade out
[09:58] <Niekie> bad_iNFO, if you want to have more programs available, you might want to enable the Universe repository.
[09:58] <shikamaru85> anyone here use banshee music player?
[09:58] <LjL> tax0n: debfoster and orphaner, but they mostly work for libraries. debfoster works for programs too i think, but you still have to give it quite a bit of manual input
[09:58] <Seveas> bad_iNFO, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto , wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto are two pages you should read
[09:59] <LjL> bad_iNFO: Ubotu just told you about Synaptic. read what it told you
[09:59] <lampshade> LjL, Oh, I think that will do it perfectly actually, removing the KDE core and what not so I think that nailed it.  Thank you
[09:59] <Seveas> bad_iNFO, also look at "applications  add appllications" in the menu
[09:59] <bad_iNFO> how do i install the universe repository?
[09:59] <LjL> !tell bad_iNFO about repos
[09:59] <bad_iNFO> i will read that ty Seveas
[09:59] <tax0n> lampshade, try installing a minimal system from the start and log each package you install
[09:59] <ConfidentiaL> I have a problem with Xsession. What would be removed if I reinstalled X?
[10:00] <tax0n> do a basic install, then x-window-core, and deps. Then, stick kde-core on top of that.
[10:00] <LjL> lampshade: you could even try "sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt", though take care, 'cause that could remove some packages that are not really KDE programs
[10:00] <alien9391> Can I add local repository ?
[10:00] <beeswax> jep.
[10:00] <resueman> anyone have the original smb.conf file i killed mine
[10:00] <LjL> alien9391: "apt-cache search apt-move", "apt-cache search apt-proxy"
[10:00] <bad_iNFO> so do i need to read those things first? or enable my "repository" first?
[10:01] <LjL> bad_iNFO: i'd enable universe and multiverse first
[10:01] <AnsiC> uffff. stop bluetooth
[10:01] <AnsiC> by
[10:01] <bad_iNFO> ok how do i do that?
[10:01] <alien9391> LjL thx
[10:01] <LjL> bad_iNFO: the last link Ubotu showed you tells you exactly that
[10:01] <wastrel> h8n teh lunix
[10:01] <jsestri2> can anyone help me get my Onboard Audio working with breezy 5.10?
[10:02] <maria> anyone know why i get this error when running ./configure? configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[10:02] <LjL> maria: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[10:02] <jsestri2> maria: you dont have gcc etc
[10:02] <jocke> hello
[10:02] <ConfidentiaL> What will be removed if I reinstall X?
[10:02] <maria> ok thanks, ill try installing those
[10:03] <jsestri2> maria: if you install what LjL said, you get gcc
[10:03] <Twisty> !installcedega
[10:03] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Twisty
[10:04] <Seveas> !cedega
[10:04] <ConfidentiaL> What will be removed if I reinstall X?
[10:04] <Seveas> !+cedega
[10:04] <ubotu> cedega is, like, (formerly known as WineX) is TransGaming Technologies' proprietary fork of Wine, which is designed specifically for running games written for Microsoft Windows under Linux. As such, its primary focus is implementing the DirectX API. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[10:04] <Twisty> doesn't help
[10:04] <LjL> Seveas: spammer :)
[10:04] <Twisty> I gave up on the Mplayer thing
[10:04] <Twisty> heh
[10:04] <wastrel> how do i set up CUPS on my breezy desktop to accept print jobs from my breezy laptop?
[10:05] <tax0n> I had real trouble getting the MPlayer sources to start with.
[10:05] <LjL> tax0n: but there's an mplayer binary in the repos...
[10:05] <tax0n> connection timed out several times.
[10:06] <ConfidentiaL> What will be removed if I reinstall X?
[10:06] <tax0n> LjL, this was on my last distro
[10:06] <LjL> tax0n: oh
[10:06] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: if you reinstall using "--reinstall", i don't think anything will be removed
[10:07] <Blissex> wastrel: quite easy: a 'listen 0.0.0.0:631' line and a permissions line for "/" of 'Allow From 192.168.0.0/24' for example
[10:08] <Blissex> wastrel: then configure the laptop's CUPS with the right hostname and queue name.
[10:08] <Blissex> wastrel: of if you use KDE, just add a printer with the right address...
[10:08] <tax0n> is American Pie 2 worth watching? It's just come on the TV.
[10:08] <joelbryan> sabdbfl: still there? ;-)
[10:08] <joelbryan> sabdbfl: still there? ;-)
[10:09] <moonunit> i have a problem with root permissions on a drive
[10:09] <junming> hello how do i add skins to beep media player?
[10:09] <colm> tax0n, if you've nothing better to do it's quite amusing (but not great)
[10:09] <Mordof> ok so i installed webmin earlier, and then i got rid of it since i didnt have a use for it anymore, but yet i can still access the page for it, how to i get rid of it entirely???
[10:09] <wastrel> Blissex:  i've got the listen & allow from lines.  how do i find the right queue name?
[10:09] <moogman> Hey all, I'm getting a "dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so: undefined symbol: __glXLastContext" error in my X log, and my X wont start. I'm running dapper inside vmware... does anyone know if it's a common problem? Is there a fix? Do you need me to raise a bug for it?
[10:09] <LjL> Mordof: "sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>" should remove all traces of a packages (config files included!)
[10:09] <sagarp> how do i get totem to use a driver other than xv?
[10:10] <jessy> is here someone how can help me with xgl/compiz ?
[10:10] <Blissex> wastrel: with the CUPS admin interface, or look at /etc/cups/printers.conf
[10:10] <moogman> jessy: I *may* be able to help :)
[10:10] <tax0n> colm, I liked the first one but it's light amusement. I think I'll stick with this one until I see the 'tape glued to hand on roof' scene.
[10:10] <LjL> jessy: perhaps you should join the dapper channel #ubuntu+1 , as there is no xgl for breezy
[10:10] <Mordof> LjL, ive already gotten rid of it through synaptic
[10:10] <jessy> i've installe compiz by using the xgl/compiz howto under breezy
[10:10] <LjL> Mordof: if you didn't "purge", not everything will have been removed
[10:10] <jessy> many things work
[10:11] <jessy> like window distrotion
[10:11] <jessy> animated minimizing etc
[10:11] <LjL> jessy: they do? from the howto i got the impression of "don't even try it"
[10:11] <jessy> but the alt+ctrl+arrow left/right doesn't work
[10:11] <bosco> bosco did not quit
[10:11] <blackbelt_jones> Im going to need to install a new kernel to get Ubuntu online.  Does the installer disk come with all the necessary compiling tools?
[10:11] <tax0n> right - I'm off. Bye all.
[10:12] <LjL> blackbelt_jones: don't think so.
[10:12] <moogman> jessy: You sure that is a breezy howto and not a dapper one?
[10:12] <rehpotsirhc> blackbelt_jones, you shouldn't have to compile a kernel with ubuntu...you can just use apt-get to fetch the image
[10:12] <Mordof> LjL, i just tried installing an removing with purge again, still doesn't get rid of it
[10:12] <LjL> Mordof: well, there was no need to reinstall first anyway
[10:12] <jessy> this is this one : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772&highlight=compiz+breezy
[10:12] <blackbelt_jones> I have a problem mysterious problem getting certain distros online.
[10:12] <Twisty> sigh I still cant find mplayer in my syanptic
[10:12] <Mordof> LjL, what other option did i have? i couldnt remove it so how would i be able to get rid of anything
[10:12] <LjL> Mordof: are you sure there aren't any other webmin-related packages still installed? try "dpkg --get-selections | grep -i webmin"
[10:13] <blackbelt_jones> I just managed to get Fedora online, but i had to install a new kernel
[10:13] <odat> has anyone go sound working when trying to play  nexuiz
[10:13] <Mordof> LjL, yeah that comes up with 2 things..
[10:13] <LjL> Mordof: well no i was just telling you for your information that you don't need to re-install a package to purge it, you can just purge it while it's not installed
[10:13] <LadyNikon> ok so.. some how i dont have a home directory for one of my users
[10:13] <LadyNikon> can i just mkdir /home/user?
[10:13] <Mordof> LjL, oh, ok
[10:13] <rehpotsirhc> blackbelt_jones, i'm not sure what your problem is. can you be more specific? there's really no reason you'd have to compile a kernel in ubuntu
[10:14] <LjL> Mordof: you're *probably* safe removing those two things. i've got no webmin related package installed. do check first, though ;)
[10:14] <LjL> LadyNikon: i'd use "adduser" instead
[10:14] <resueman> i need help i cannot access samba shares
[10:14] <wastrel> Blissex:  i can't find an IPP uri linein the printer config page, or in printers.conf
[10:14] <LjL> LadyNikon: how did you *create* the user?
[10:14] <Gnumannen> !locale
[10:14] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Gnumannen
[10:14] <resueman> ive been through the forums and other links still not working
[10:14] <Mordof> LjL, apparently webmin-proftpd also installed just webmin, i guess webmin-proftpd was just the plugin for the ftp server
[10:14] <Mordof> thanks
[10:14] <LadyNikon> LjL: i just took over the computer from someone else
[10:14] <LadyNikon> so i dunno.
[10:14] <kakodaimonos> where can i get some help...
[10:15] <LjL> LadyNikon: i see. i would remove the user and re-add it using adduser
[10:15] <LadyNikon> kakodaimonos: ask your question..
[10:15] <Blissex> wastrel: there isn't...
[10:15] <LadyNikon> LjL: k
[10:15] <kakodaimonos> look, i have problems with the sound....
[10:15] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : I didnt get that command to work, how do I write it?
[10:15] <Blissex> wastrel: what you want from 'printers.conf' is just the name of the printer/printer queue.
[10:15] <kakodaimonos> when i start ubuntu it sounds like a drum..
[10:15] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg" i suppose
[10:16] <wastrel> Blissex:  <DefaultPrinter Stylus-C82>
[10:16] <wastrel>   ?
[10:16] <blackbelt_jones> I can't really be more specific.  I don't know what the problem is only how to solve it. In the beginning all distros worked out of the box with my computer.  Then, in fits and starts, certain distros (and Windows) stopped going online.   But others continued to work fine.
[10:16] <Infecto> alo
[10:16] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: not sure that'll gain you much though, unless your problem is that you've accidentally deleted some X files..
[10:16] <Blissex> wastrel: so on the laptio use the CUPS admin interface, and ask it to add a printer called "Stylus-C82" what resides on host "whatever".
[10:16] <odat> has anyone go sound working when trying to play  nexuiz
[10:16] <Infecto> may i ask something ? i`v got problem with my xinerama and kde 3.5.1 on Ubuntu/6.04
[10:16] <rehpotsirhc> blackbelt_jones, whatever. i don't think anyone in here can help you with mysterious ethereal metaphysical problems like that
[10:17] <LjL> Infecto: read the topic please, there is a channel specific to dapper. also, don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[10:17] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : just problems with xsession...
[10:17] <blackbelt_jones> Since it affected more than one distro at once, it seems like some kind of hardware problem, but since some distros worked, I figured I could get any distro to work by compiling a new kernel.  And I tried it with Fedora, and sure enough
[10:17] <Mordof> Ok, so i went and i tried to make another group in the Users and Groups wizard thing, and then add 2 users to it, but then once i restarted my computer... the group was gone. how do i make it so it will stay?
[10:17] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: like what?
[10:17] <kakodaimonos> anibody kwos a channel where i can get some help in spanish??..
[10:17] <blackbelt_jones> It's ethereal all right.
[10:17] <Infecto> LjL: ok thx sory, im confiust
[10:18] <rehpotsirhc> blackbelt_jones, i'd suggest you a) wait until you have the problem before asking for a soultion and b) once you do have the problem, try to identify what it is before attempting a solution
[10:18] <blackbelt_jones> Well, I've been waiting for the problem for months.  I have the solution..
[10:19] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : when I log on, I get an error message saying there is something wrong with xsession, and then restarts X. I have to run terminal in fail safe, then start xsession from its location to get the desktop...
[10:19] <blackbelt_jones> No one has ever been able to explain it.   But this seems to work.
[10:19] <richard> someone now how can i connet to internet by modem? how can i dial in ubuntu?
[10:19] <rehpotsirhc> richard, sudo pppconfig
[10:20] <bosco_> some guy just wrote a love letter to george bush
[10:20] <MurraySW> LOL
[10:20] <SaLoMoN> gn8
[10:20] <airjump> hello
[10:20] <maria> is there a pluging which makes xmms appear beside the clock like winamp, and hides it from the panel at the bottom of my screen in gnome?
[10:20] <LjL> ConfidentiaL: hm, i suppose you could give reinstalling a try
[10:20] <blackbelt_jones> I too love George Bush
[10:21] <blackbelt_jones> and yes I am being very very sarcastic
[10:21] <djp> where can i get advice about totem-xine? what is the latest version that works with breezy?
[10:21] <hackel_> I really hope the Bush lovers are using Windows.
[10:21] <bosco_> hackel_,  why what is up with that
[10:21] <odat> djp, use mplayer
[10:21] <trappist> I really hope political discussions are happening in -offtopic
[10:21] <wastrel> grr
[10:22] <ubuntu_> guys can somepme help a newbie with Ubuntu?
[10:22] <odat> ubuntu_, ?
[10:22] <colm> !anyone
[10:22] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:22] <LjL> maria: "apt-cache show xmms-status-plugin", "apt-cache show gxmms"
[10:22] <bosco_> ubuntu i can
[10:22] <trappist> ubuntu_: we sit around all day waiting for a newbie to ask a specific question so we can do just that
[10:22] <djp> odat, i like totem-xine, unfortunately, dual-audio and subtitles are not working in the breezy version though :(
[10:22] <LjL> trappist: you wish
[10:22] <jafar> Hello all
[10:22] <ubuntu_> haHow can I look at the files on my hard drives?
[10:23] <bosco_> i use ubuntu then i went to e16 then and now e17
[10:23] <MurraySW> Question:  If I wanted to plug in a USB mouse, is there any way I can use it right away without having to restart???
[10:23] <bosco_> ls or lovate
[10:23] <jafar> I have a problem with my 3D card
[10:23] <ubuntu_> I see them in a list but I t wont allow me to look at the files
[10:23] <odat> djp, i c well i always go with whats working
[10:23] <ubuntu_> Im running LIve CD by the way
[10:23] <jafar> it is not supported by Ubt
[10:23] <ubuntu_> does that affect it?
[10:23] <bosco_> ubuntu no that does not
[10:23] <LinuxJones> MurraySW: jsut plug it in
[10:23] <LjL> ubuntu_: what files are you trying to look at, and how?
[10:23] <maria> Ljl: youre the best thanks ! :)
[10:23] <bosco_> ubuntu just ls or loate
[10:23] <jafar> but how can I install drivers
[10:24] <ailean> ubotu, i'm guessing you're using windows normally, and you're on a livecd to check it out?
[10:24] <ubotu> ailean: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[10:24] <jafar> they are available for Redhat & susi .. but not this one
[10:24] <ailean> ubuntu_,  even :)
[10:24] <maria> Ljl: W: Unable to locate package xmms-status-plugin, apt-cache
[10:24] <djp> odat, don't blame you. think i will do the same. vlc seems to be working fine... will try out mplayer now... thanks
[10:24] <ailean> ubuntu_, i'm guessing you're using windows normally, and you're on a livecd to check it out?
[10:24] <LjL> maria: you probably don't have universe enabled
[10:24] <jafar> anybody help
[10:25] <maria> Ljl : ok i got the ubotu msg, ill try that thanks
[10:25] <MurraySW> LinuxJones:  Plugged in.  Doesn't do anything.  I'm on a laptop - the touch pad continues to work however the USB mouse I plug in does not.
[10:25] <Demigod> hello
[10:25] <richard> rehpotsirhc. now i have configured but how can i dial?
[10:25] <rehpotsirhc> richard, pon
[10:25] <jafar> If drivers are not avaialble for my 3D card .. what should I do
[10:25] <odat> djp, i find it works the best with all media
[10:25] <noteventime> Why can't i play ogg thora files? EVery time i try to start them the player stops or quits, I've tried using Kaffeine and VideoLan
[10:25] <rehpotsirhc> richard, er, sudo pon
[10:25] <rehpotsirhc> richard, sudo poff when you want to disconnect
[10:26] <jafar> help ??
[10:26] <maria> Ljl: can i do this in dapper drake?
[10:26] <djp> odat, ah, just realised why i don't use mplayer... subtitles only work from the command line for ogm files
[10:26] <LinuxJones> MurraySW: usb mice usually just work after you plug them in.
[10:26] <LjL> maria: no idea. guess so
[10:26] <jafar> bye
[10:26] <LinuxJones> MurraySW: do you have an optical mouse ?
[10:26] <bosco_> sudo shutdown -h now
[10:26] <MurraySW> LinuxJones:  I'll try a different mouse.  It is optical.
[10:27] <djp> odat, that is why vlc is currently my best alternative to the buggy totem-xine
[10:27] <mcdonaldswes> I just tried to install memprof (from hoary main) and it complained that the package would be installed unauthenticated...
[10:27] <LinuxJones> MurraySW: ok does it get power ?
[10:27] <mcdonaldswes> I've never seen this before with main packages
[10:27] <La_PaRCa> Wow. xchat-gnome really sucks
[10:27] <MurraySW> LinuxJones:  It's wireless.  It has power.
[10:27] <mcdonaldswes> should I be worried?
[10:27] <ailean> La_PaRCa, seems fine to me
[10:27] <LinuxJones> MurraySW:  oh that's probably it
[10:27] <LjL> maria: oh, hold on -- if you mean the universe and multiverse, yes they will work, but you shouldn't follow the howto literally
[10:27] <rehpotsirhc> maria, add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[10:27] <mebaran151> I'm working in a dualhead setup
[10:27] <LjL> maria: namely, when it mentions "breezy", that's not breezy you should use ;)
[10:27] <MurraySW> LinuxJones: Also, the light on the wireless transmitter is on, so yes, the transmitter has power.
[10:27] <rehpotsirhc> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe
[10:27] <mebaran151> but I'd like to be able to specify two different virtual desktop sizes
[10:27] <La_PaRCa> ailean: its user interface is ugly. Real ugly.
[10:28] <mebaran151> I'm using nView
[10:28] <mebaran151> anybody know anything?
[10:28] <ailean> La_PaRCa, same with most linux software . . .
[10:28] <wastrel> Blissex:  ... i can't figure it out
[10:28] <Blissex> wastrel: that's a statement not a question :-)
[10:28] <mebaran151> ailean: I wouldn't say that
[10:28] <richard> rehpotsirhc, how can i do it in graphical mode?
[10:28] <Blissex> wastrel: however, let's do a test...
[10:28] <La_PaRCa> ailean: the regular xchat interface is way more functional
[10:28] <mebaran151> I've been in windows a lot this week, and there's alot of ugly ui there too
[10:29] <Blissex> wastrel: open a terminal window on the laptop.
[10:29] <ailean> La_PaRCa, oh, i thought that's what you meant :)
[10:29] <rehpotsirhc> richard, uh, well you can open up a terminal window and type it on. or you can find a ppp utility for gnome--i don't know of any offhand because i don't use ppp. try apt-cache search ppp
[10:29] <LinuxJones> MurraySW:  can you switch channels on the mouse port ?
[10:30] <rehpotsirhc> richard, there seems to be one called "gkdial" maybe sudo apt-get install gkdial?
[10:30] <Demigod> why on ubuntu doesnt have the (man rpm)?
[10:30] <LjL> rehpotsirhc, richard: or even better "apt-cache search gnome ppp", as ppp alone will give a few results
[10:30] <deepwoodz> I can't get font to show up on macromedia flash games or on the macromedia menu
[10:30] <MurraySW> LinuxJones:  I'll try that.
[10:30] <LjL> Demigod: because ubuntu uses the APT packaging system, not RPM
[10:30] <Infecto> LjL: kde ? i`v got problems with kde, but they are on 6.04 and nobody wants to help me on +1 #
[10:30] <wastrel> Blissex:  yes
[10:31] <LjL> Infecto: never used 6.04 myself
[10:31] <Demigod> so if i have rpm file i cant install it on the system?
[10:31] <noteventime> I'm running KDE on dapper
[10:31] <Infecto> LjL: now i start to think that was a big error by my side
[10:31] <Blissex> wastrel: now try this: [oops wait a bit] 
[10:31] <wastrel> telnet 192.168.2.2 631  ?  it works
[10:31] <Infecto> Demigod: use alien to convert that package on your needs
[10:31] <wastrel> .2 being the desktop
[10:32] <Twisty> woot Mplayer works now thanks.
[10:32] <Twisty> :)
[10:32] <LjL> Infecto: well, i seem to understand that Dapper has become sort of stable lately, but it's still an experimental version, and personally, my computer has enough problems running stable things
[10:32] <lasse> how do i get mp3's to work in totem? do i need a packet ore a codec?
[10:32] <Infecto> LjL: but the problem is, hmm thats the problem i dont know where
[10:32] <wastrel> !mp3
[10:32] <Infecto> agrrrr
[10:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:33] <lasse> thanks
[10:33] <LjL> Infecto: eh?
[10:33] <taburete> hi which is the number for text login in inittab?
[10:33] <taburete> I tried with 2 and 2 with not success
[10:33] <jsestri2> jsestri2 crapola
[10:34] <Infecto> LjL: i dont know where is the problem, i can describe it but i dont know whats generating this problem
[10:34] <noteventime> taburete: Dont start kdm/gdm/xdm
[10:34] <rehpotsirhc> i installed dapper and it killed direct rendering for my ati mobility radeon 9000
[10:34] <LjL> Infecto: those are the worst problems ;)
[10:34] <taburete> and how do that?
[10:34] <Infecto> LjL: are you traying to sa my that can be worst? :)))
[10:34] <noteventime> I think you disable them in inittab
[10:35] <Infecto> is inaf belive me :)
[10:35] <Blissex> wastrel: OK, I am back.
[10:35] <avatar_> i have an issue with dapper and xorg-driver-fglrx: apparently this package is not updating libGL and is using Mesa's libGL. how can i fix this?
[10:35] <noteventime> But then youl have to use startx after login, you could probably make some kind of login script though
[10:35] <LjL> Infecto: i'm just saying problems you have no clue at all about the cause of can be tricky to solve
[10:36] <taburete> I mean where can I stop the start of gdm?
[10:36] <deepwoodz> Does anyone know how to get the font to show up for the macromedia flash player?
[10:36] <noteventime> In inittab, I think
[10:36] <shanonx> wastrel: I give up on the whole network interface thing, I guess me and linux  just wans't ment to be.... apparently ubuntu doesn't support my motherboard or video card.
[10:36] <Blissex> wastrel: try this:
[10:36] <Mordof> where does firefox keep its bookmarks?
[10:37] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, ~/.mozilla i believe
[10:37] <hackel_> deepwoodz:  I think you need to install gsfonts-x11
[10:37] <Anti-Proton> deepwoodz, try installing gsfonts-x11
[10:37] <Blissex> wastrel: try this: lp -h <desktop> -d Stylus-C82 /etc/issue
[10:37] <noteventime> in a file called bokmarks.html
[10:37] <wastrel> shanonx:  maybe the next release, dapper will support them ...  it's due out in a couple months
[10:37] <deepwoodz> ok. brb
[10:38] <noteventime> You can get the dapper beta :)
[10:38] <shanonx> noteventime: where can i get the dapper beta?
[10:38] <LinuxJones> shanonx: it's a new system you have ?
[10:38] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, crap -.-
[10:38] <noteventime> Just change you repositories to dapper and make an update
[10:38] <shanonx> LinuxJones: yes ... i upgraded my system, and ever since I cannot get any distro of linux to install.
[10:38] <wastrel> Blissex:  yummy, worked.
[10:39] <LinuxJones> what kind of mobo did you get ?
[10:39] <hackel_> I wish ubuntu had a testing distribution in addition to dapper/unstable.
[10:39] <Net_Holer> r novis
[10:39] <Blissex> wastrel: so everything is all right, you only need to get a bit more familiar with the way to add remote printer using CUPS web interface...
[10:39] <shanonx> LinuxJones: Intel 945P... uses a Pentium D 840 3.2ghz processor
[10:39] <LinuxJones> hackel_: Dapper's been running awesome for me.
[10:39] <wastrel> Blissex:  i'm using the gnome configurator thing
[10:40] <shanonx> Any other way to get dapper rather than already having linux installed?
[10:40] <noteventime> Dapper runs like a dream on my laptop
[10:40] <Blissex> wastrel: wait a sec -- there are two ways to a add a remote printer!
[10:40] <hackel_> LinuxJones:  I'm not saying it won't, I'm installing it now, I just like how I can have a constantly in-testing system with Debian and not have to upgrade every few months.
[10:40] <noteventime> Yes, there is a cd availible
[10:40] <noteventime> for kubuntu anyway
[10:40] <osh_> Doesn't "aptitude purge" remove config-files that I've touched?
[10:40] <LjL> osh_: yes it does
[10:40] <Blissex> wastrel: one is as a local virtual printer/queue that forwards jobs to the remote queue. The other is as a remote printer directly to GNOME.
[10:41] <LjL> osh_: uh... i think
[10:41] <J_element> evening
[10:41] <LjL> osh_: actually perhaps it doesn't
[10:41] <J_element> need help regarding a subject
[10:41] <J_element> how do i make all routing of my nics to one destination
[10:41] <osh_> LjL: heh. Ok. Good thing I'm not the only one confused. ;-)
[10:42] <Panzerboy> hey all
[10:42] <Blissex> wastrel: for the former you usually use the 'http://localhost:631/admin' web interface
[10:42] <osh_> LjL: The manpage isn't all that clear on the subject.
[10:42] <Panzerboy> any idea if deskbar-applet searches also through thunderbird mail ?
[10:42] <Panzerboy> or only evo?
[10:42] <LinuxJones> shanonx: from what I can tell it's a sata problem give me a sec to serach google a bit more.
[10:42] <shanonx> LinuxJones: ok
[10:42] <LjL> osh_: no, it isn't. right now i'm not finding any info at first googling, either
[10:43] <jessy> ok xglcompiz works fine under breezy, the only one thing i have added is every plugins in active_puglins (gconf)
[10:43] <J_element> eth1 is physical devie conected to the net. virtual-devices1-5 all have puplic ip adresses, and need normal network config
[10:43] <shanonx> LinuxJones: when I try to install Ubuntu, during the install process it tells me it cannot find my Network Adapter(onboard)
[10:43] <jessy> can someone tell me what is the button who correspond to <Super> ???
[10:43] <J_element> can any one help on that ...
[10:43] <lisah> WASSSSSUIP
[10:43] <LinuxJones> shanonx: the 2nd last entry has a workaround with changing a setting in the bios, dunno if it works though >> http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/10794
[10:44] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, when i try to replace those bookmarks from another spot, it doesnt work :S
[10:44] <LinuxJones> shanonx: ok what kind of network card is it ?
[10:44] <Twisty> !nvidia
[10:44] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:44] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, what are you doing exactly.
[10:44] <blah> dhfa
[10:44] <chelseaf_> hihi
[10:45] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, i have bookmarks from my dapper install that i need in my breezy install (the one im currently on)
[10:45] <MurraySW> Hello Chelsea.
[10:45] <Mordof> and i dont want to boot into dapper to get it
[10:45] <shanonx> LinuxJones: it is an Intel 82573V
[10:45] <blah> where do you all live
[10:45] <succubus__> hey, how can i mount my windows partition in a way so that i do not have to be su to access it in any way?
[10:45] <LjL> blah: that's a good question for #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[10:45] <osh_> LjL: Right, thanks. That means I've found a bug in the gallery package then. Thanks for you help.
[10:45] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, and you copied the bookmarks.html file into ~/.mozilla in the new install and it didn't replace the bookmarks? did you restart firefox?
[10:45] <LjL> !tell succubus__ about ntfs
[10:45] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, yeah
[10:46] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, im just gonna copy the link out of the bookmarks file, i just found it
[10:46] <Blissex> wastrel: have you tried <http://localhost:631/admin> on the laptop and then 'Add printer' and then 'Name' as "Stylus-C82"
[10:46] <chelsss> weehooo
[10:46] <succubus__> thanks LjL
[10:46] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, did you make sure the permissions on the file are set correctly?
[10:46] <LjL> is there a way to make ubuntu *not* load the vga and vesa framebuffer modules at boot?
[10:46] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, erm.. it saved fine
[10:47] <chelsss> hello?
[10:47] <monomaco> hi, how could i configure the time for sudo use ? i get sudo: timestamp too far in the future
[10:47] <blah> hey
[10:47] <chelsss> hi
[10:47] <chelsss> we are too cool
[10:47] <blah> penis on a tree top
[10:47] <LjL> chelsss: ?
[10:47] <wastrel> Blissex:  i still need to set IPP and it wants a URI
[10:47] <chelsss> thats me!
[10:47] <chelsss> who are you
[10:47] <LjL> blah: ?
[10:48] <blah> yeah
[10:48] <chelsss> who are you
[10:48] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, type ls -al ~/.mozilla/firefox and paste it
[10:48] <blah> =D
[10:48] <J_element>  eth1 is physical devie conected to the net. virtual-devices1-5 all have puplic ip adresses, and need normal network config :S
[10:48] <chelsss> whos LjL?
[10:48] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, erm, type ls -al ~/.mozilla/firefox/bookmarks.html and paste it
[10:48] <jessy> can someone tell me what is the key for SUPERKEY in COMPIZ ?:)
[10:48] <rehpotsirhc> don't paste the whole thing :D
[10:48] <chelsss> is this a carney class?
[10:48] <LjL> chelsss, blah: you guys are clones, aren't you?
[10:49] <chelsss> are we?
[10:49] <Blissex> wastrel: yes, use 'ipp://<desktop>/ipp/' as the examples say
[10:49] <Mordof> rehpotsirhc, its not found in there its 1 folder deeper with a really weird name
[10:49] <Burgwork> blah, chelsss this is an Ubuntu support channel. If you are not here to get help or chat about Ubuntu, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <hackel_> So hotplug is just completely gone in dapper?
[10:49] <Burgwork> hackel_, yes
[10:49] <rehpotsirhc> Mordof, oh woops. whatever, just ls -al the path.to
[10:49] <blah> ineed some help with my computer
[10:49] <LjL> chelsss: well, you have the same IP and you're behaving like you're in here just to do some stupid chat among yourselves (which you could probably do in a query). perhaps seveas is interested to join it :)
[10:49] <chelsss> me too
[10:49] <blah> =\d
[10:49] <rehpotsirhc> so i can see the permissions
[10:49] <blah> my uri is going offline
[10:50] <blah> autmoatically
[10:50] <blah> how do i fix this cpu
[10:50] <apt514> hey, i booted 5.10 live how do i install to a empty hd?
[10:50] <chelsss> whats an IP
[10:50] <LjL> apt514: you need the install CD instead of the live CD
[10:50] <LjL> chelsss: an internet address
[10:50] <LjL> chelsss: IP is actually the internet protocol
[10:51] <john131971> hello all, need how-to for turning off on=board sis760 and then maybe my ati card will start using 3d, also how to double memory of ati card is being used
[10:51] <apt514> LjL i have 5.4 install
[10:51] <Zanub> Does anyone know why the 2.6.15-15-386 headers for dapper drake aren't yet released?
[10:51] <LjL> apt514: you mean 5.04?
[10:51] <john131971> double ck that memory of ati card is being used
[10:51] <Burgwork> Zanub, have patience. The kernel only came out yesterday
[10:51] <apt514> LjL from shipit.ubuntu
[10:51] <Zanub> Burgwork, thanks.  I was just trying to install VMware.
[10:52] <LjL> apt514: well, the current ubuntu version is 5.10. you can surely install 5.04, but if i were you, i would burn a 5.10 cd
[10:52] <LjL> apt514: (by the way, 5.04 is also known as "hoary", and 5.10 as "breezy". next version is "dapper")
[10:52] <LinuxJones> shanonx: apparently you need to load the e1000 module to get support for your network card
[10:53] <apt514> LjL Thanks does 5.04 install have wine?
[10:53] <wastrel> Blissex:  that one doesn't work :/
[10:53] <LjL> apt514: not on the CD as far as i know, but it's easy to install it from the 'net
[10:53] <wastrel> Blissex:  i've tried that and a million other permutations
[10:53] <shanonx> LinuxJones: how do I load the e1000 module during the install then?
[10:53] <Burgwork> apt514, no, wine is in universe, which is only supported by the community
[10:53] <apt514> LjL i a have 33.6k
[10:54] <LjL> apt514: that's not good =) i guess you're best off installing your Hoary then, even though most people here in the channel are more familiar with breezy
[10:54] <apt514> LjL how big is wine ?
[10:54] <wastrel> Blissex:  E [22/Feb/2006:16:51:43 -0500]  get_printer_attrs: resource name '/ipp/' no good!    <- in the error log on the desktop
[10:54] <LjL> apt514: i don't think it's terribly big... let me check
[10:55] <LjL> apt514: 14 megs. would take a while for you, but not so awfully long
[10:55] <Burgwork> LjL, apt514 you want to get the latest winehq debs from dapper, as they are much more stable
[10:55] <succubus__> okay.. that didnt work
[10:55] <apt514> LJL thanks i want to use a win32 binary
[10:55] <LinuxJones> shanonx: there should be options to load at the main install screen when you load the installer cd. You will have to have a look around where to load modules during initial install.
[10:55] <succubus__> the drive is mounted and i can view the contents but i can't load any songs in XMMS.
[10:55] <LjL> Burgwork: indeed. those are the ones i checked as being 14 megs
[10:56] <mbass> Anyone know which keyservers launchpad synchronises with?
[10:56] <LjL> apt514: is it a free program? if it is i could test it for you if it works in wine, before you start downloading
[10:56] <apt514> LJL what do i type at boot: to load everything to ram?
[10:56] <LjL> apt514: hm? i'm not sure i'm getting you here
[10:57] <pder> can ubuntu be installed on a microcomputer system?
[10:57] <LjL> apt514: what you do mean by loading everything into ram?
[10:57] <deepwoodz> i installed gsfonts-x11
[10:57] <LjL> pder: what's a microcomputer system?
[10:57] <shanonx> LinuxJones: perhaps I should get the Dapper iso and then see how it might work?
[10:57] <apt514> LJL the program is yahoo messenger
[10:57] <deepwoodz> it still isnt showing up i can see some font but some i cant
[10:57] <pder> LjL: an IBM compatible personal computer system
[10:57] <apt514> LjL to a ramdisk
[10:57] <amphi> pder: indeed it can
[10:57] <LjL> apt514: the live CD will let you install new programs, if that's what you mean (not sure how it does it though, but it does)
[10:57] <LjL> apt514: i guess it does use a ram disk for that
[10:58] <deepwoodz> when i goto macromedia flash player settings i cant see the font
[10:58] <mbass> pder: Am running Ubuntu on an IBM compatible PC right now...
[10:58] <LjL> pder: uh, well, most of us here are probably using an IBM compatible
[10:58] <succubus__> why don't my songs from my NTFS partition load into XMMS? i can view the partition fine.
[10:58] <amphi> as almost is everyone in this channel, I imagine
[10:58] <succubus__> oooh
[10:58] <wastrel> ahh about f'ing time.  Blissex http://<hostname>/printers/Stylus-C82  seems to be the magic incantation.
[10:58] <succubus__> does XMMS even support WMA?
[10:58] <pder> succubus: do you have read permission to the files?
[10:59] <succubus__> pder, i do.
[10:59] <Blissex> wastrel: ah yes, I just checked and that was indeed the idea.
[10:59] <pder> succubus: it supports wma with a plugin.  xmms-wma or alternatively xmms-mplayer
[10:59] <LjL> apt514: are you aware that there are programs installed by default in Ubuntu (namely, Gaim) which let you chat on the Yahoo! network, as well as on many others?
[10:59] <succubus__> okay.. thanks pder.
[10:59] <LinuxJones> shanonx: the chipset for the network card has been around forever. Installing Dapper probably won't help but you never know.
[11:00] <apt514> LjL Sure :) I need the voice to work
[11:00] <succubus__> i just realized they were .wma, so that would explain why they won't load.
[11:00] <wastrel> s/http/ipp/
[11:00] <ubuntu_> Laries and Germs
[11:00] <LjL> apt514: let me try installing it
[11:00] <LinuxJones> shanonx: do you have a livecd ?
[11:00] <wastrel> Blissex:  thanks for your assistance
[11:00] <ubuntu_> I am unable to mount my NTFS partitions and view in Ubuntu!
[11:00] <shanonx> LinuxJones: does dapper come like ubuntu yet, with pretty much all the stuff you would need.? ....  yes i have a live cd.
[11:00] <apt514> LjL the url is http://messenger.yahoo.com win32
[11:01] <ubuntu_> does mounting get affected within Live CD?
[11:01] <La_PaRCa> w00t. Blam! is broken in dapper!
[11:01] <deepwoodz> macromedia flash player font still not showing up after installing gsfonts-x11 (font in macromedia settings menu wont show)
[11:01] <LjL> apt514: thanks, but... that page, on my browser, shows me *linux* downloads! there's one for Red Hat and one for Debian, which could possibly work on Ubuntu
[11:01] <LinuxJones> shanonx: Dapper rocks, try the livecd and then try adding the e1000 module in a root terminal and see if your network card comes to life >> modprobe e1000
[11:02] <rehpotsirhc> apt514, there is a linux version of yahoo messenger anyway.
[11:02] <succubus__> how would i go about getting xmms-mplayer?
[11:02] <LjL> apt514: (i guess my browser might tell the yahoo site that it's running on Linux, while yours probably doesn't, so you see Windows downloads instead...?)
[11:02] <succubus__> i'm not familiar w/ the ubuntu package system.
[11:02] <apt514> LjL Thanks i just want the mic like gnomemeeting
[11:03] <LjL> apt514: this is the link to the Debian download: http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:03] <Syns> whats the addy to download dapper?
[11:03] <shanonx> LinuxJones: ok let me try the live cd real fast.
[11:03] <LjL> apt514: i'm sure it's got audio support
[11:04] <apt514> LjL Can you try it? :)
[11:04] <LjL> apt514: i can see if it runs. i can't actually try it "live" as i don't have a yahoo account
[11:05] <shanonx> Syns: try this ... http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_Flight_CD_4_s63908.html
[11:05] <LjL> apt514: it's just 600kb by the way
[11:05] <apt514> LjL how do i set a new passwd?
[11:05] <apt514> 20% d/l
[11:05] <LjL> apt514: "passwd"
[11:06] <LjL> apt514: don't do that in the live cd though, i guess
[11:06] <apt514> Where's the root shell ?
[11:06] <Syns> shanonx.. are u using dapper at the moment?
[11:06] <LjL> !tell apt514 about root
[11:06] <shanonx> Syns: nope
[11:06] <La_PaRCa> I am getting the following error when I try to run blam in dapper: Unhandled Exception: System.DllNotFoundException: libblam.so any ideas?
[11:06] <apt514> And the firewall gui ? how do check it's on too?
[11:06] <B_166-ER-X> I have a separate partition for my /home , from my '/' , but if i 'reinstall' how do i make it so it wont 'overwrite' my '/home' ?
[11:06] <LjL> apt514: there's no firewall installed by default
[11:06] <shanonx> Syns: having Breezy problems on my desktop right now :(
[11:06] <apt514> What? iptables?
[11:06] <LjL> apt514: people usually recomment "firestarter" if you want a firewall
[11:06] <deepwoodz> macromedia flash player font still not showing up after installing gsfonts-x11 (font in macromedia settings menu wont show)
[11:07] <LjL> apt514: there's iptables, sure, but there are no default GUI tools installed to use iptables as a firewall
[11:07] <Syns> the only problems i ever had with breezy is getting my webcam to work..
[11:07] <bimberi> ubotu tell Syns about getdapper
[11:07] <Syns> seems spca5xx didnt work for me
[11:07] <LjL> apt514: messenger seems to run anyway
[11:07] <LjL> apt514: it's ugly, but it runs :)
[11:07] <apt514> LjL with voice?
[11:08] <apt514> LJL Where do i find the shell?
[11:08] <LjL> apt514: not sure, i don't see any audio-related stuff in the menu right now, but then i'm not logged in
[11:08] <LjL> apt514: uh... not sure in gnome, apps / accessories / terminal i guess
[11:09] <apt514> LjL terminal?
[11:09] <LjL> apt514: yeah, a terminal is a shell
[11:09] <apt514> what's the root passwd? for su
[11:09] <shanonx> LinuxJones: with the livecd had the same network interface error as well as my X server error that ive been getting.
[11:10] <LinuxJones> shanonx: that's ok can you modprobe the driver for the network card ?
[11:10] <Alexi5> why is the kubuntu channel so dead
[11:10] <shanonx> LinuxJones: nope... went back to the loading screen and is froze there
[11:10] <LjL> apt514: read the link Ubotu gave you --- there is no root password
[11:11] <LjL> apt514: and you can't use su. you should use "sudo" instead before any command that you want to run as root
[11:11] <LjL> apt514: that will ask for a password, which is you *own* user password
[11:11] <apt514> LjL Thanks i was used to 5.04 menu for root shell
[11:11] <rehpotsirhc> you can configure ubuntu to use su if you want
[11:11] <LinuxJones> shanonx: hit ctrl+alt+F3 then login
[11:11] <rehpotsirhc> it just comes disabled by default
[11:11] <LjL> rehpotsirhc: though that's not quite recommended, and it has often caused (relatively small) problems in breezy
[11:12] <Cooner750> i noticed the step in ubuntuguide.org to install Java is not working?
[11:12] <deepwoodz> Does anyone know how to get the font to show up on macromedia flash player. The font still not showing up after installing gsfonts-x11 (font in macromedia settings menu wont show)
[11:12] <LjL> !ubuntuguide
[11:12] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:12] <rukuartic> Does gnome actually need evolution?
[11:12] <shanonx> LinuxJones: ok Im in... and i did sudo modprobe e1000... now what?
[11:12] <ubuntu_> Gius-I cant mount my drives in Ubuntu properly! They're NTFS..will that make a difference?
[11:12] <apt514> LJL i typed at boot: live-expert and there was root&ubuntu passwd ?
[11:12] <LinuxJones> shanonx: do sudo -s
[11:13] <LinuxJones> then enter your passwd
[11:13] <we2by_> hi guys
[11:13] <LinuxJones> oops
[11:13] <mike> cannot install opera?
[11:13] <we2by_> I have composite working fine, but sometimes I got this: http://www.cinaq.net/Screenshot.png
[11:13] <shanonx> LinuxJones: ok
[11:13] <LjL> apt514: yes, that's the expected behavior when installing in expert mode
[11:13] <we2by_> look at the window border. any idea how I fix this?
[11:13] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  now do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:13] <LjL> apt514: however, most people i've met in this channel who did that run into problems
[11:14] <we2by_> I really don't know what keyword to use to search the forum
[11:14] <we2by_> :(
[11:14] <succubus__> oh boy
[11:14] <scottj> can I simply install one package that will get the main kde stuff under ubuntu? I don't really want to reinstall with kubuntu, I'd like an easy way to switch between using gnome and kde
[11:14] <LjL> apt514: i don't consider myself an expert, and so i just installed normally ;) and it's all working fine here
[11:14] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  do the same errors pop up ?
[11:14] <succubus__> is there no compiler in ubuntu?
[11:14] <amphi> we2by_: nice moss ;)
[11:14] <we2by_> thank you amd77
[11:14] <shanonx> LinuxJones: said [OK] 
[11:14] <LjL> succubus__: not by default, no. it's easy to install from the 'net if you have a fast connection
[11:14] <we2by_> amd77, what is moss?
[11:14] <succubus__> i have a decent connection here at school
[11:15] <rukuartic> What runs faster, KDE or Gnome?
[11:15] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  ok now do ifconfig -a
[11:15] <amphi> we2by_: that plant stuff on your root window
[11:15] <affe_> any dapper developers in the house?
[11:15] <LjL> apt514: to be honest, i can't find a voice chat feature in yahoo messenger. perhaps i'm just looking at the wrong place
[11:15] <LjL> rukuartic: they're both dog slow
[11:15] <bimberi> scottj: installing kubuntu-desktop gets you a kubuntu setup (including all its default apps) or is that more than you want? :)
[11:15] <IdleOne> affe_:  #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[11:15] <shanonx> LinuxJones: shows local Loopback, then the IP, Mask, and the packets...
[11:15] <rukuartic> LjL, What do you reccomend?
[11:15] <shanonx> LinuxJones: doesnt show a eth0 or eth1
[11:15] <LjL> rukuartic: KDE
[11:15] <succubus__> LjL, what's the best way?
[11:15] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  bah argh :(
[11:16] <neiras> rukuartic: Both are a bit slow if you have less than 512MB of RAM
[11:16] <apt514> LjL it's only for win32 users i guess :)
[11:16] <LjL> succubus__: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[11:16] <rukuartic> LjL, Its faster?
[11:16] <rukuartic> neiras, 256 XD
[11:16] <Angel_Dex> i cannot send anything to anyone thru gaim or Xchat why so?
[11:16] <neiras> rukuartic:  I use gnome on a laptop with 256MB, it's not too bad if you disable all the crazy international fonts
[11:16] <LjL> rukuartic: hm no, not really... it's slow in a different way. to me, it feels like gnome is consistently slow, while kde is more temperamental :)
[11:16] <rukuartic> neiras, How'd you do that?
[11:16] <shanonx> LinuxJones: out of luck?
[11:16] <LjL> rukuartic: but the reason i prefer KDE is really not speed anyway
[11:16] <ConfidentiaL> LjL : The reinstall didnt work...
[11:16] <rukuartic> LjL, Haha I perfer temperamental over consistancy
[11:17] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  I suspect :(
[11:17] <succubus__> thanks
[11:17] <ssstormy> for some reason, whenever I try adding the volume control applet to one of my user's panel, it loads without an icon
[11:17] <apt514> LJL the deb doesn't  open?
[11:17] <neiras> rukuartic:  I removed all the stuff in /usr/share/fonts/truetype that I never used
[11:17] <LiteHedded> my dns resolution is going very slow for some reason
[11:17] <neiras> rukuartic:  then restarted X
[11:17] <shanonx> LinuxJones: think dapper wouldbe any better? o
[11:17] <ssstormy> and all the other users still load with the applet just fine
[11:17] <LjL> apt514: "open"? you don't open a deb, you type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" ;)
[11:17] <apt514> LjL 652.9k?
[11:17] <amphi> LiteHedded: use dnsmasq
[11:17] <LinuxJones> shanonx:  well it's worth a try :D
[11:17] <ssstormy> is there anyway I can cannibalize whatever setting is doing that?
[11:17] <LiteHedded> wha'ts dnsmasq?
[11:17] <LjL> apt514: yes
[11:18] <amphi> shanonx: e1000 is still not working for you?
[11:18] <ubuntu_> I di sidu and nothing mounts still
[11:18] <shanonx> amphi: nope :(
[11:18] <succubus__> LjL, is aptitude similar to apt-get? i am new to ubuntu, i apologize.
[11:18] <neiras> rukuartic:  You should also keep the number of panel applets to a minimum, and if you can live without a desktop, hiding it using gconf also seems to speed things up
[11:18] <amphi> LiteHedded: a caching dns forwarder - apt-cache show dnsmasq
[11:18] <LjL> succubus__: i recommend aptitude.
[11:18] <rukuartic> neiras, In the end I'm running a server, but I'd like to keep things small...
[11:18] <shanonx> amphi: its like it has the module but still doesnt recognize the network adapter at all
[11:18] <rukuartic> neiras, And there's only a handful of fonts in there that only take up 4 k...
[11:18] <neiras> rukuartic:  You shouldn't even install X on a server
[11:19] <rukuartic> neiras, Eeheheh... It still needs to be a bit of a desktop
[11:19] <succubus__> LjL, thanks a lot.
[11:19] <neiras> rukuartic:  unless you're serving up X apps over the network
[11:19] <LiteHedded> that will make my browser resolve domain names faster?
[11:19] <rukuartic> neiras, What would you reccomend to do to optomize gnome?
[11:19] <neiras> rukuartic - if you're not really using it for a desktop, try xubuntu-desktop - it's a usable graphical interface without all the huge GNOME bits
[11:19] <amphi> LiteHedded: it caches dns lookups, so yes, after the first lookup
[11:20] <LiteHedded> delete it and install KDE :D
[11:20] <LiteHedded> ok thanks amphi
[11:20] <LiteHedded> anything special to configure it?
[11:20] <amphi> LiteHedded: TFM is you friend
[11:20] <apt514> LjL depends and errors?! ;(
[11:20] <amphi> *your
[11:20] <rukuartic> neiras, It still looks good? Just apt-get it?
[11:20] <neiras> rukuartic:  It's XFCE - http://www.xfce.org/
[11:20] <LjL> apt514: yeah, it fails on libssl0.9.6 for me
[11:20] <LiteHedded> yes of course the ever popular rtfm response
[11:20] <LjL> apt514: just "sudo aptitude install libssl0.9.6", and same for any other packages it complains about
[11:21] <avu> hi
[11:21] <neiras> rukuartic:  apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, then log out and pick the XFCE session before logging back in
[11:21] <steph> i'm trying to run ubuntu (on a live disk) on a friends pc, but x won't load (video problem?)
[11:21] <amphi> shanonx: what do you see in syslog? perhaps modprobe -r e1000, tail -f /var/log/syslog and modprobe the module again
[11:21] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:21] <Anti-Proton>  Would someone be willing to help me out with a xinerama config?
[11:21] <sethk> steph, is that a question?
[11:21] <rukuartic> neiras, But I can still run regular apps?
[11:21] <steph> sethk: yas
[11:21] <steph> yes
[11:22] <rukuartic> neiras, Der bad wording... I mean like amaroK and GAIM
[11:22] <neiras> rukuartic:  of course you can :D
[11:22] <apt514> LjL aptitude gui ?
[11:22] <sethk> steph, well, then restate it, because it isn't clear what you are asking.
[11:22] <ibmnotebook> does anybody play "five or more"?
[11:22] <neiras> rukuartic:  XFCE is based on GTK, same as GNOME - it's just a different environment. Your environment of choice has no bearing on which apps you can run for the most part
[11:22] <deepwoodz> Does anyone know how to get the font to show up on macromedia flash player. The font still not showing up after installing gsfonts-x11 (font in macromedia settings menu wont show)
[11:23] <rukuartic> neiras, "for the most part"? and whats the advantage of installing xubuntu-desktop vs. xfce?
[11:23] <Anti-Proton> It's on a laptop, and the laptop display is functioning normally. The external monitor doesn't seem to be displaying the correct resolution. There is a significant amount of display area around the actual image that is displayed that isn't being utilized
[11:23] <steph> i appear to have a video problem (ati radeon xpress 200), are there drivers?
[11:23] <hackel_> Sadly, even using just XFCE it still needs more than 128M RAM stopping me from using it on older machines.
[11:23] <hackel_> deepwoodz:  Did you restart X?
[11:23] <Burgwork> rukuartic, xubuntu-desktop gets you all the xubuntu customizations, much like what Ubuntu does to gnome
[11:23] <sethk> steph, there are, but I don't see where that helps with a live CD
[11:23] <deepwoodz> restart x?
[11:23] <neiras> rukuartic:  xubuntu-desktop IS XFCE - it's just a full XFCE package provided by ubuntu
[11:23] <deepwoodz> how do i do that?
[11:23] <ssstormy> rukuartic, if you don't install the libraries for a family of apps (i.e. KDE apps when you run Gnome) you can'y use KDE apps
[11:23] <rukuartic> neiras, Sweet.
[11:24] <ssstormy> rukuartic, that's all
[11:24] <rukuartic> ssstormy, Yeah I installed 'em :P
[11:24] <apt514> LjL Thanks for the sudo info
[11:24] <rukuartic> Burgwork, thanks for the info
[11:24] <hackel_> steph:  I've got that card on my laptop and it works fine for me.
[11:24] <neiras> rukuartic:  GIve it a shot anyway - I don't really like XFCE but it is definitely fast and decent looking
[11:24] <LjL> apt514: no i advice against using aptitude's gui
[11:24] <Burgwork> rukuartic, np
[11:24] <rukuartic> neiras, Now if I go start amarok (for example) will it go and load a bunch of other things (like KDE) to help it run?
[11:25] <steph> hackel_: did you install, or live cd?
[11:25] <LjL> apt514: they say it has some bad bugs (didn't check them myself), and i don't like it anyway ;)
[11:25] <neiras> rukuartic:  no.
[11:25] <darnellkeith_> is there a faster server for downloading dapper, im connected at 11.5kb
[11:25] <shanonx> amphi: ok  I did that and in my log it shows no errors related to the Network adapter,  Does say " Intel Pro/1000 Network Driver <version> Local host kernel Copyright Intel Corp.
[11:25] <neiras> rukuartic:  Although if you look in XFCE settings, it has a special "GNOME support" and "KDE support" pair of options to make sure those apps work
[11:25] <Burgwork> darnellkeith_, try one of the other mirrors
[11:25] <hackel_> darnellkeith_:  faster than WHAT?  I just downloaded it at 500Kbb/s.
[11:25] <Anti-Proton> oh.. n/m it works normally now
[11:25] <TTilus> rukuartic: it will go and load "bunch of other things", but definitely not KDE
[11:25] <david> after installing the ati proprietary driver the gpu-fan goes on 100% almost all the time (wich is quite annoying), is there something I can do?
[11:26] <darnellkeith_> my dsl is 3.7 -5 megs
[11:26] <rukuartic> neiras, Heh... thanks. Would there be any way to shut down Xorg and just be left with a console and all the apps running that I previously started?
[11:26] <pilsen> anyone in here who use vmware?
[11:26] <neiras> rukuartic:  It'll just load the frameworks each app needs, not the full GNOME or KDE desktops
[11:26] <darnellkeith_> im connecting at 12kbs now
[11:26] <LjL> rukuartic: not X apps
[11:26] <LjL> rukuartic: you can certainly *switch* to a console though :)
[11:26] <steph> pilsen: on windows
[11:26] <TTilus> darnellkeith_: try out others or go with bittorrent
[11:26] <rukuartic> LJL, Well of course I'd lose my x apps
[11:26] <LjL> pilsen: have you tried qemu? that's free software
[11:26] <neiras> rukuartic:  CTRL-ALT-FI, log in, do sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[11:27] <neiras> F!
[11:27] <neiras> F1
[11:27] <LjL> rukuartic: well then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" if you've got gnome
[11:27] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:27] <pilsen> i install qemu but no idea how to use it :(
[11:27] <rukuartic> neiras, , So if I switched to a console would that decrease memory usage?
[11:27] <LjL> rukuartic: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" if you've got kde
[11:27] <luite> why is the latest smp kernel in dapper still at 2.6.12? do I need to add a repository for more recent smp kernels?
[11:27] <neiras> rukuartic:  If X is not running, you're definitely saving on memory usage... but I thought you wanted a graphical interface
[11:27] <TTilus> darnellkeith_: have you checked which ubuntu mirror is closest to you, Internetwise cosest
[11:28] <rukuartic> neiras, Well I go away from my box 60% of the time
[11:28] <apt514> LjL Yeah so gaim works but needs voice :)
[11:28] <darnellkeith_> whats the addy again.. sorry
[11:28] <LjL> pilsen: well, it's not too hard. you should first run "qemu-img" to create an hard drive image... the syntax is "qemu-img create -f qcow filename maximumsize"
[11:28] <rukuartic> but I'd like to have it 40% of the time
[11:28] <hackel_> apt514:  Just use Skype for voice.  Seriously.
[11:28] <LjL> apt514: gaim? that one you installed is not gaim, it's yahoo messenger :)
[11:28] <neiras> Just so everyone knows, calling 'invoke-rc.d foobar stop' is the same as '/etc/init.d/foobar stop'
[11:29] <shanonx> amphi: any other ideas?
[11:29] <ivo_> Hey!!! :) i got this file lmms-0.1.4-1.pm.1.i586.rpm how to i install them ? sombady help me plz
[11:29] <LjL> hackel_: skype is a proprietary protocol, and many free software advocates wholeheardtely advice against using it. i'm not sure yahoo is any better, but i *am* sure there are many fine free software alternatives
[11:29] <biovore> ivo_: look at alien
[11:29] <apt514> LjL i mean in /apps/internet/gaim
[11:29] <biovore> ivo_: alien installs rpms
[11:29] <pilsen> so qemu its a windows emulator?
[11:29] <biovore> pilsen: qemu is a bad version of vmware
[11:29] <pilsen> or something like that?
[11:30] <ivo_> biovore where i can find a alien ?
[11:30] <hackel_> LjL:  Yahoo/MSN/etc. are ALL propreitary.  Skype at least was released for Linux.  But you're right, using a SIP client like Ekiga would be ideal.
[11:30] <biovore> ivo_: apt-get install alien
[11:30] <LjL> pilsen: then you run "qemu imagefilename", and it starts. of course it won't do anything at that point, because there's no OS installed... but then just insert an OS cd-rom, and use "qemu -hdc -boot d imagefilename"
[11:30] <biovore> ivo_: man alien
[11:30] <pilsen> ivo_ biovore where i can find a alien ?<--- apt-get install alien
[11:30] <TTilus> pilsen: not emulator, virtualization
[11:30] <nathaniel> I'm having problems with using the make command.  I get a bunch of errors like /usr/include/c++/4.0.2/bits/postypes.h:175: error: streamoff has not been declared....I just reinstalled Ubuntu and the same program compiles elsewhere
[11:30] <neiras> ivo_: apt-get install fakeroot alien; fakeroot alien lmms-0.1.4-1.pm.1.i586.rpm; dpkg -i lmms*.deb
[11:30] <dooglus> I last looked at the this window 2 hours ago.  ivo was asking how to install alien then, too.
[11:30] <biovore> pilsen: use apt to fetch the package
[11:30] <pilsen> ahh ok
[11:31] <LjL> hackel_: or an h323 client, h323 is not evil either
[11:31] <biovore> apt-get is the comand line function..
[11:31] <succubus__> LjL, i still can't 'make' anything
[11:31] <darnellkeith_> i dont see a list of mirror sites
[11:31] <rukuartic> neiras, Any way to turn on/off xorg when I need it/don't need it?
[11:31] <ivo_> I got this 3 Permission denied
[11:31] <pilsen> coz i just installed vmware
[11:31] <hackel_> LjL:  Last I used h323, it was -very- evil. :-P
[11:31] <LjL> succubus__: it still says "make" cannot be found?
[11:31] <neiras> rukuartic:  You could set it not to start up on boot, and only start it when you need it
[11:31] <pilsen> but ill try first qemu
[11:31] <we2by_> my keyboard does not work when using it on a object on the desktop
[11:31] <dooglus> ivo_: did you try installing lmms using synaptic?
[11:31] <we2by_> like trying to delete something from the desktop
[11:31] <rukuartic> neiras, startx I assume?
[11:31] <LiteHedded> dns masq isnt' working it's still slow
[11:31] <we2by_> :(
[11:31] <LjL> hackel_: well i mean "evil" in the sense of "not free software" ;)
[11:31] <TTilus> hackel_: there are evil *implementations*
[11:31] <ivo_> I don;t know i newbie
[11:32] <neiras> rukuartic:  To make it not start on boot, do "sudo rc-update -f gdm remove"
[11:32] <TTilus> hackel_: h323 is not evil itself
[11:32] <succubus__> no, it just gives errors for every step of the process then quits
[11:32] <neiras> or kdm if you're on KDE
[11:32] <TTilus> hackel_: gnomemeeting is non-evil implementation  :)
[11:32] <jouni__m> luite 2.6.12-10 is most new kernel in breezy
[11:32] <neiras> rukuartic:  Yeah, startx would then work
[11:32] <hackel_> TTilus:  perhaps not, I just remember many frustrated attempts at using gnomemeeting and how amazing skype quality was when I tried it. :-P
[11:32] <rukuartic> neiras, would that start gnome as well? or just X?
[11:32] <succubus__> thinks like: xmms-wma.c:610: error: invalid type argument of ->
[11:32] <LjL> rukuartic: no need to startx, you can just call the script manually... i.e. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:32] <dooglus> ivo_: do you need version 0.1.4?
[11:32] <ivo_> yes
[11:32] <rukuartic> LjL, Ah...
[11:32] <neiras> rukuartic:  If your default X session is GNOME, startx would start GNOME
[11:33] <apt514> LjL does hoary install use gparted to partition?
[11:33] <dooglus> ivo_: 0.1.2 no good?
[11:33] <Anti-Proton> Is there a trick to getting VLC to do fullscreen video on a secondary display?
[11:33] <TTilus> hackel_: h323 is just plain ancient and does not work very well in net as of today
[11:33] <thought> hello
[11:33] <LjL> apt514: no, the installer is completely text-mode, so it definitely doesn't use gparted. it might (and probably does) use parted though
[11:33] <ivo_> dooglus i don"t know i wery bad know english i need install rpm files can u help me plz/
[11:33] <ivo_> ?
[11:33] <Anti-Proton> It acts as if it is fullscreen, but does not cover the entire display
[11:33] <hackel_> TTilus:  Yeah that's why I suggested SIP at first, which gnomemeeting switched to as well.
[11:33] <avu> on the distribution I used before ubuntu, the sixth mouse button triggered the same action as the third, ob ubuntu, it does not do anything. How do I change that?
[11:34] <neiras> rukuartic:  You're full of questions today :)
[11:34] <hackel_> avu:  copy the configuration you had in the distribution you used before Ubuntu.
[11:34] <biovore> avu: ubuntu's default X install dosn't setup extended buttons
[11:34] <biovore> X setup
[11:34] <LjL> hackel_, TTilus: my own telephone line is an h323 connection :)
[11:34] <avu> hackel_: I don't have that anymore. I only remember the protocol (IMPS/2) which is the same, ubuntu uses.
[11:34] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:35] <avu> biovore: so, how do I set up these extended buttons?
[11:35] <shanonx>  well thanks to everyone that has tried to help me today!
[11:35] <LiteHedded> dnsmasq doesn't work
[11:35] <rukuartic> neiras, Always am :P
[11:35] <neiras> :)
[11:35] <LiteHedded> or I haven't done something I dunno
[11:35] <apt514> LJL in breezy gparted is is apps/sys tools
[11:35] <dooglus> ivo_: get the source from http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lmms/lmms-0.1.4.tar.bz2 and build it for yourself
[11:35] <we2by_> weird problem here
[11:35] <we2by_> my keyboard does not work for the desktop
[11:35] <LjL> apt514: but it's still not used by the installer
[11:35] <we2by_> only for the applicaiotns window
[11:36] <we2by_> window
[11:36] <nathaniel> Hey, I just reinstalled Ubuntu, I installed G++ 4:4.0.1-3 and Make, and i get tons of errors when I try to compile....it compiled before I reinstalled and it compiles on another machine
[11:36] <ivo_> dooglus how to i build?
[11:36] <rukuartic> neiras, rc-update doesn't seem to exist... is it in sbin?
[11:36] <apt514> LjL sure, i'd like to see it at boot:
[11:36] <rukuartic> neiras, I whereis the application but it comes up with null
[11:36] <LjL> nathaniel: you should install build-essential instead of gcc and make separately
[11:37] <we2by_> mhh
[11:37] <LjL> apt514: but you don't. perhaps we'll see it in dapper, who knows
[11:37] <nathaniel> oh, ok....I couldn't remember what that command was...thanks
[11:37] <we2by_> window
[11:37] <neiras> rukuartic:  you need to do "sudo rc-update"
[11:37] <LjL> apt514: you can always use a livecd when you need to run gparted on your boot partition, in any case
[11:37] <dooglus> ivo_: in a terminal, "tar xf lmms*.bz2; sudo apt-get build-dep lmms; cd lmms; ./configure; make" or something like that
[11:37] <neiras> rukuartic:  It's only available to the superuser
[11:37] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:37] <rukuartic> neiras, command not found?
[11:37] <neiras> rukuartic:  seriously?!?
[11:37] <avatar_> i have an issue with dapper and xorg-driver-fglrx: apparently this package is not updating libGL and is using Mesa's libGL. how can i fix this?
[11:37] <rukuartic> sudo: rc-update: command not found
[11:38] <neiras> rukuartic:  Sorry. Command name is update-rc.d
[11:38] <rukuartic> rukuartic@HALFLIGHT:/sbin$ whereis rc-update |
[11:38] <rukuartic> rc-update:
[11:38] <Rawplayer> startkeylogger
[11:38] <rukuartic> neiras, Oh :P
[11:38] <neiras> rukuartic:  use update-rc.d... my mistake
[11:38] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:38] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:38] <nathaniel> One other question...Has anyone tried installing ATI Mobility Drivers into breezey?
[11:38] <neiras> rukuartic:  My old Gentoo habits poison my very being
[11:38] <rukuartic> DX
[11:38] <rukuartic> **XD
[11:39] <ivo_> dooglus ok big tnx for helping me U are THE MAN :D
[11:39] <LjL> neiras: don't funroll your loops
[11:39] <apt514> LjL i'm tempted to install the xp on a 3g hd if i can not get wine to go
[11:39] <ConfidentiaL> nathaniel : yes
[11:39] <rukuartic> neiras, Thats a cool command...
[11:39] <rukuartic> neiras, So if I wanted to add something I could say sudo "update-rc.d httpd" or something?
[11:39] <ConfidentiaL> nathaniel : but not without problems:
[11:39] <ConfidentiaL> nathaniel : but not without problems:
[11:39] <LjL> apt514: i can still try the win32 version. can you give me a direct link to the download, as the main page only shows me linux versions?
[11:40] <nathaniel> ahh
[11:40] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:40] <neiras> rukuartic:  apt-get install sysvconfig if you want a nice overview of which services are scheduled for boot time
[11:40] <dooglus> ivo_: you're welcome.  good luck.
[11:40] <ivo_> tnx : )
[11:40] <dooglus> ivo_: I'm sorry it took so long!
[11:40] <wa77x> is there a way to edit grub so it only lists Ubuntu and Winxp and not memtest and failsafe mode and what not ?
[11:40] <ivo_> Its ok :)
[11:40] <neiras> rukuartic:  You would use update-rc.d to add services to runlevels, yes
[11:40] <LjL> wa77x: what do you have against memtest and failsafe mode? they're useful :) anyway, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:41] <LjL> wa77x: i would keep safe mode honetly
[11:41] <wa77x> LjL alright
[11:41] <wa77x> ill keep the fail safe
[11:41] <wa77x> it seems cluttered
[11:42] <neiras> LjL - failsafe mode is scary if you don't trust your roomates - it's a free root login for anyone who wants it unless you have a GRUB password set. Most people don't
[11:42] <rukuartic> neiras, Whoo. And then I can use sysvconfig to fine tune things?
[11:42] <LjL> wa77x: well perhaps you could simply change the names to, say, "Test system memory" and "Recovery boot", to get a tidier appearence... that's still done in menu.lst
[11:43] <apt514> LjL excellent!!
[11:43] <dooglus> ivo_: I just tried it, and it seems to be working.  I pasted a log here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9138
[11:43] <neiras> rukuartic:  You could use sysvconfig to do everything you'd use update-rc.d for
[11:43] <wa77x> ty =)
[11:43] <neiras> it's a different interface to the same thing
[11:43] <LjL> neiras: well, as far as i know, you can still do that using init=/bin/sh (though i'm not sure that would really work with a "rootless" distribution like ubuntu, but i think it would)
[11:43] <hackel_> neiras:  You still have to enter your root password to do anything in failsafe mode.
[11:43] <Alexi5> hello
[11:43] <LjL> neiras: but even if it doesn't, it's just a matter of knowing the right kernel parameters. not hard
[11:44] <rukuartic> neiras, Whats the point of having "SXX" or "KXX" for the runlevels?
[11:44] <Seveas> LjL, it would, there's no login program
[11:44] <SealyDave> hi, i did all my wiki reads but still having issues installing Linksys usb adapter. ndiswrapper -l shows driver  present but still no lights
[11:44] <Seveas> rukuartic, S means start, K means kill, see man update-rc.d
[11:44] <rukuartic> Seveas, Thanks :D
[11:44] <LjL> Seveas: yes that's what i suspected. fortunately i never had to boot with init=/bin/sh in ubuntu as of yet ;)
[11:44] <ivo_> dooglus ooo i love u :D tnxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[11:44] <neiras> rukuartic:  Seveas beat me to it
[11:44] <ConfidentiaL> When I log in I get an error in xsession, wich restarts X. I got this after I installed new drivers for my grapchics card. Any1 know how to fix it? (I tried to use backup of xorg.con, and I tried to reinstall xorg)
[11:45] <neiras> This channel needs a help karma system
[11:45] <neiras> It'd be fun!
[11:45] <Alexi5> i have ubuntu installed and i have kubuntu cd. I want to install the kde kdesktop on ubuntu while keeping ubuntu GDM (Gnome desktop manager). i would like to know if i can ad kde by using the kubuntu disk instead of redownloading the kubuntu desktop from apt get
[11:45] <Seveas> it'd be annoying
[11:45] <rukuartic> neiras, But the two digits afterwards have nothing to do with anything?
[11:45] <neiras> Seveas:  Not if it was all handled in private chat
[11:46] <ivo_> dooglus ups i got problem when i build lmms i got this You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[11:46] <ivo_> =\
[11:46] <neiras> rukuartic:  They represent startup precedence
[11:46] <neiras> rukuartic:  within the runlevel
[11:46] <LjL> neiras: you really need a grub password to have anything resembling console users not being able to get root. you also need a bios password, otherwise they'll just boot from a floppy/cd. and even then, you can't really keep somebody intentioned to gain root from getting it
[11:46] <Seveas> Alexi5, pop in the kubuntu disk, use apt-cdrom add and do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. afterwards do dpkg-reconfigure kdm and update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[11:46] <rukuartic> neiras, So 00 would be high, 99 would be low?
[11:46] <Seveas> rukuartic, no
[11:46] <dooglus> ivo_: right.  what version ubuntu do you use?
[11:46] <neiras> rukuartic:  Reverse that
[11:46] <Alexi5> ok
[11:47] <LinuxJones> Alexi5: it will ask you if you want to use kdm or gdm as part of the installation of kubuntu-desktop
[11:47] <ivo_> 5.10
[11:47] <Alexi5> ok
[11:47] <ConfidentiaL> How do I get like a stylish background on the terminal?
[11:47] <LjL> rukuartic, neiras: what, the karma, or the runlevel pri? :)
[11:47] <rukuartic> LjL, runlevels :P
[11:47] <Seveas> !karma LjL--
[11:47] <ubotu> ljl-- has neutral karma
[11:47] <neiras> see, that's annoying
[11:47] <white_tiger> ConfidentiaL, depence what terminal?
[11:47] <LjL> heh
[11:47] <neiras> teach ubotu to talk in private, damn it
[11:47] <neiras> hahah
[11:48] <Seveas> neiras, and non-functional ;)
[11:48] <jerrod> java?
[11:48] <LjL> ubotu *does* talk in private ;)
[11:48] <ubotu> LjL: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:48] <dooglus> ivo_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9139 shows what you can use in /etc/apt/sources.lst for it to work
[11:48] <ConfidentiaL> white_tiger : the normal one that is included in ubuntu 5.10
[11:48] <LjL> ... and it doesn't understand when one is *not* addressing it
[11:48] <Alexi5> thanks
[11:48] <kurt_> servus freeks
[11:48] <SealyDave> anybody a ndiswrapper guru?
[11:48] <wa77x> LjL, i dont want to delete the lines i dont want, is # used for commenting ? is it ## ? how many lol
[11:48] <LjL> wa77x: in what file?
[11:49] <ConfidentiaL> white_tiger : well, if I need to install a new one to get it stylish i dont mind....
[11:49] <kurt_> bin neu hier und suche fr mda vario auf linux eine lsung ??
[11:49] <Seveas> !de
[11:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:49] <rukuartic> SealyDave, What can I help ya with? I got a few bits of experience
[11:49] <LjL> wa77x: it's just # for shell scripts, as well as many config files
[11:49] <SealyDave> need to install alinksys usb adapter
[11:49] <hume> anyone here knows how to connect a Palm through bluetooth to an ubuntu laptop? I jsut cant make it work
[11:49] <rukuartic> neiras, Thanks alot fer yer help :D
[11:49] <wa77x> this is for the menu/lst
[11:49] <kurt_> bin neu hier und suche fr mda vario auf linux eine lsung ??
[11:49] <wa77x> menu.lst***
[11:49] <rukuartic> SealyDave, You have ndiswrapper installed?
[11:49] <Seveas> kurt_, #ubuntu0de bitte
[11:49] <SealyDave> yeah
[11:49] <Seveas> #ubuntu-de
[11:49] <neiras> rukuartic:  No problem, any time
[11:50] <LjL> kurt_: hast du was ubotu sagte gelesht? es gibt #ubuntu-de
[11:50] <white_tiger> ConfidentiaL, If I recall correct there is an option in kde-terminal to set background
[11:50] <kurt_> danke
[11:50] <SealyDave> when i do a ndiswrapper -l it shows driver preset, but no hardware present
[11:51] <ivo_> dooglus i got this when i put the comand bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[11:51] <ivo_> =\
[11:51] <apt514> LJL where do i find firestarter?
[11:51] <ConfidentiaL> white_tiger : kde-terminal, that would be the normal one I was talking about?
[11:51] <rukuartic> ivo_, you go as root? try using sudo
[11:51] <LjL> apt514: "sudo aptitude install firestarter". if it's not found, then you need to enable universe
[11:51] <ivo_> okz
[11:52] <ivo_> this goes like this sudo  sudo-apt-get /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <ivo_>  ?
[11:53] <SealyDave> its a linksys WUSBG54g
[11:53] <DrCurl> Hello
[11:53] <apt514> LjL How do enable universe?
[11:53] <LjL> ivo_: no, that makes no sense. what you trying to do?
[11:53] <LjL> !tell apt514 about repos
[11:53] <ivo_> i trying open source.list
[11:53] <DrCurl> Someone knows why tomboy is in official ubuntu and beagle isn't?
[11:53] <Macbeth> anyone know how to start Azureus without sudo?
[11:53] <LjL> ivo_: then it's "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:53] <rukuartic> SealyDave, Do you have ndiswrapper installed?
[11:53] <Seveas> !info tomboy
[11:53] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[11:53] <ubotu> tomboy: (desktop note taking program using Wiki style links), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.3.2-9ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 141 kB, Installed size: 776 kB
[11:53] <SealyDave> yes ndis wrappe ris installed
[11:53] <munzir> Hi, on my system any user can see/list all the databases. I solved this by "revoke show databases on *.* from user@localhost" but whenever I restart mysqld I need to redo this! How can I fix this? I tried to add "safe-show-database" to my.cnf to no avail!
[11:53] <Seveas> !info beagle
[11:53] <quadra> [ !unload : no module with this name ] 
[11:54] <ubotu> beagle: (Desktop search tool), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3100 kB
[11:54] <Stukkm> Hello
[11:54] <david> Hello: when trying to compile a c program in anjuta, I get an error: stdio.h; the file doesn't exist
[11:54] <sethk> david, most likely the file doesn't exist
[11:54] <Twisty> !cedegainstall
[11:54] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Twisty
[11:54] <sethk> david, make sure you've installed the build-essential package
[11:55] <LjL> twisty, you tried that before, there is no "cedegainstall" factoid ;) also, you should private message the bot when you don't know if a factoid exists
[11:55] <IdleOne> !firestarter
[11:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[11:55] <kurt_> wo kann ich ubuntde finden
[11:55] <kurt_> ubuntode
[11:55] <david> build-essential? but that's for building Debian packages, isn't it?
[11:55] <LjL> kurt_: schrieb    /join #ubuntu-de
[11:55] <Macbeth> anyone know how to start Azureus without sudo? changing the file permison to my corrent user doesn't make any difference
[11:55] <IdleOne> !firestarterinfo
[11:55] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[11:56] <Fujitsu> david, no. It is general compiler stuff.
[11:56] <LjL> kurt_: ein neues fenster mit den deutchen kanal wird ffnen
[11:56] <DrCurl> Anyone using beagle here? working ok?
[11:56] <neiras> an addendum - if you're looking for a nice firewall tool that isn't graphical, try shorewall
[11:56] <neiras> beagle's great, but leaks lots of memory
[11:56] <LjL> david: no
[11:56] <LjL> david: build-essential includes essential packages for building just about anything, namely gcc, g++, make...
[11:57] <SealyDave> so the lights are still not lit
[11:57] <david> Ok, yes, I've installed it and now it compiles. :)
[11:57] <bimberi> david:  you might be thinking of debian-builder :)
[11:57] <SealyDave> but ndsiwrapper -l shows driver present
[11:58] <david> But it doesn't build: make*** Objective was not specified and a makefile couldn't be found.
[11:58] <kurt_> knhj
[11:58] <LjL> david: that just means there is no makefile in the directory you're in ;)
[11:58] <LjL> david: is there a "Makefile" or "makefile" file there?
[11:58] <david> yes, Makefile.am
[11:58] <DrCurl> neiras, the memory leaks of beagle, is it noticable on a laptop that I reboot at least every day or is it slowly building over several days?
[11:58] <OmegaAlpha> hey Seveas why was there a bot in here. what do they do?
[11:59] <anto9us> SealyDave, once ndiswrapper has installed your driver you need to configure the device, use sudo iwconfig wlan0
[11:59] <LjL> david: that's not a makefile
[11:59] <LjL> david: type   ./configure
[11:59] <apt514> LjL Thanks for the info
[11:59] <Seveas> OmegaAlpha, apart from being annoying - they're more annoying
[12:00] <neiras> DrCurl - I think it really depends on what searches you run
[12:00] <benkong2> how can I tell if my usb drive is available for mounting? ubuntu breezy x86_64