[12:08] <duckdown> Hey all.. I've done an apt-get install openssl but I still can't connect to SSL IRC servers..  What else do I need to do?  When I try and connect to an SSL IRC server it just hangs on the connecting part.  I have tried 4+ SSL clients and NONE work
[12:08] <robotgeek> duckdown: hmm, the clients probably havent been compiled with openssl support
[12:08] <duckdown> Sure have
[12:09] <duckdown> I've even apt-get bitchx-ssl
[12:09] <duckdown> and kvirc definitely has SSL in it
[12:09] <Grim76> Is there an I686 or K7 Kernel for Dapper?
[12:09] <robotgeek> duckdown: i dunno, maybe try the /usr/share/doc/<package>/Readme.debian
[12:12] <Mrono> sweet
[12:12] <Mrono> it worked
[12:13] <bigfun> Is it possible to get amarok 1.4 beta in a package for breezy?
[12:13] <bimberi> Mrono: great! :)
[12:13] <Mrono> bigfun
[12:13] <Mrono> I got it installed
[12:14] <Mrono> I have the repositories you need for it
[12:14] <bimberi> !info linux-686 dapper
[12:14] <ubotu> linux-686: (Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.15.14 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 52 kB
[12:14] <bimberi> !info linux-k7 dapper
[12:14] <ubotu> linux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.15.14 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 52 kB
[12:14] <robotgeek> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4beta1.php bigfun
[12:14] <_skaman> hey guys
[12:14] <bimberi> Grim76: yes :)
[12:14] <_skaman> cana nyone help me?
[12:15] <_skaman> i have a serious problem
[12:15] <Grim76> ok I did an apt-cache search and could not find them....only the i386 kernel
[12:15] <_skaman> any cmd i give from the graphic interface simply doesn't works
[12:15] <bigfun> robotgeek: thx
[12:15] <zephryos> Anyone feel bored enough to help me?
[12:15] <bimberi> Grim76: you might only have CD repositories enabled - you have to get those kernels from the 'net
[12:15] <robotgeek> bigfun: so, the answer is no :(
[12:16] <Mrono> i did
[12:16] <zephryos> Grim76: I have the same problem.. I just checked -.-
[12:16] <Perma> back shortly
[12:16] <zephryos> I'm looking for a respositories list.
[12:16] <Grim76> bimberi: hmmm I don't have just the CD repos in there.  I have added several.
[12:16] <Hobbsee_away> !repos
[12:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:16] <zephryos> Give me a few mins unless they come up with it faster.
[12:17] <zephryos> ... Hobbsee.... I hate you >.<
[12:17] <Hobbsee_away> zephryos: hehe why?
[12:17] <bimberi> Grim76: have you updated?  pastebin your sources.list
[12:17] <zephryos> I had to reload kubuntu cuz the thing you told me to do destroyed all my networking capabilities..
[12:17] <zephryos> :P
[12:17] <Grim76> Yeah I have updated....I will check the source list against mine.
[12:18] <bimberi> Grim76: k
[12:18] <Hobbsee_away> what in particular did i tell you what to do?
[12:18] <Hobbsee_away> and were you using dapper or breezy at the time?
[12:18] <Mrono> anyone upgrade to KDE 3.5.1
[12:18] <zephryos> Setting up WPA with Motorola Wireless WPCI810G
[12:18] <Hobbsee_away> ah right
[12:18] <zephryos> yeh.. well I didnt have directed help so.. i messed it up -.-
[12:18] <zephryos> and I didnt do it on purpose.
[12:19] <zephryos> Baby me damnit >.<
[12:19] <Grim76> bimberi: I have those enabled in my sources.list
[12:19] <Mrono> lol
[12:20] <zephryos> o.O
[12:20] <zephryos> He left .. then waved?
[12:21] <Grim76> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9141
[12:22] <neoncode> Should I upgrade to breezy via the repos? what dangers are there?
[12:24] <neoncode> Upgrade to dapper sorry
[12:24] <zephryos> or you can completely start over with 3.5 >.>
[12:24] <Grim76> Dapper works for me on the laptop that I run it on.  YMMV since it is not a full release as of yet.
[12:24] <Mrono> is there a show desktop command
[12:24] <neoncode> Grim76: YMMV?
[12:25] <Grim76> neoncode: Your Mileage May Vary
[12:25] <neoncode> Hobbsee! you can help me! sould I upgrade to dapper?
[12:25] <robotgeek> neoncode: nope :)
[12:25] <zephryos> ok Hobbsee, I'm getting all current system updates, then I'm going to force you to help me get WPA and Wireless working :P
[12:25] <neoncode> robotgeek: Why?
[12:25] <Hobbsee> neoncode: heaps of people are having troubles
[12:26] <Hobbsee> zephryos: oh are you hehe?
[12:26] <neoncode> Hobbsee: All I want is Xorg 7.0 so I can run XGL...
[12:26] <Mrono> i'm guessing there isn't a show desktop command
[12:26] <zephryos> Yup :D
[12:26] <Mrono> damnit
[12:27] <neoncode> Mrono: I know you can get a kicker wiget that is show desktop?
[12:27] <Mrono> hmmm
[12:27] <Mrono> i'm still getting things situiated from my move from windows
[12:27] <noteventime> I upgraded to dapper without any problems
[12:27] <neoncode> Hobbsee: How would I go abbout getting Xorg 7.0 without upgradeing to dapper?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> no idea
[12:28] <Mrono> god linux can be a bitch sometimes
[12:28] <neoncode> Mrono: So can windows =)
[12:28] <Mrono> <windows pro
[12:28] <Mrono> <linux noob
[12:28] <Mrono> so it's a big bitch for me
[12:28] <Grim76> bimberi: Any other ideas on the Kernels not showing?
[12:28] <Mrono> at least windows doesn't take 2 hours just to play a damn mp3
[12:29] <noteventime> It's hard to be good at Windows :)
[12:29] <noteventime> So doesnt linux :)
[12:29] <noteventime> either
[12:29] <noteventime> The problem is just that ubuntu doesnt install anything "non-free"
[12:29] <Mrono> yeah it does
[12:29] <robotgeek> Mrono, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:30] <noteventime> I just installed gstreamer-mad and it works
[12:30] <zephryos> ^^
[12:30] <zephryos> XMMS FTW
[12:30] <Mrono> I had to install amarok 1.5 beta and xine
[12:30] <Mrono> after i uninstalled amarok 1.4 and gtsreamer
[12:30] <noteventime> But i must agree that alsa and oss realy lack software mixing
[12:31] <Hobbsee> Mrono: yes, they changed engines in what they decided to use
[12:31] <noteventime> Wow, it did...
[12:31] <noteventime> (K)Ubuntu?
[12:32] <Hobbsee> yeah
[12:32] <noteventime> Thats wierd :S
[12:32] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: that's not possible, and you know it. lol
[12:32] <Hobbsee> robotgeek:
[12:32] <noteventime> Becvause 112mb slax installs non-free stuff
[12:33] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: i do, yet i hear sound without installing any extra codecs or stuff out of repos
[12:33] <noteventime> Probably installed as a dependancy for another package
[12:33] <Hobbsee> only non repo things i've installed are java, asciiquarium, and whatever else is in my debs/ folder
[12:33] <Mrono> so what can't I install
[12:33] <zephryos> Hobbsee: Can you help me actively set thie wireless thing up?
[12:33] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: those things are in the repos, in universe
[12:33] <Mrono> are there things that it will prevent me from installing because of this free thingy
[12:34] <Grim76> bimberi: ok I found them.  I was expecting the package names to be different.
[12:34] <Mrono> !wifi
[12:34] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:34] <brydenn> yo Hobbsee
[12:34] <brydenn> what was that IM you sent me about
[12:34] <Mrono> !wpa
[12:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[12:34] <noteventime> mrono: only if you not enable the reposetrys
[12:34] <zephryos> You did before and I ended up destroying my comp -.-
[12:34] <brydenn> about going somewhere and voting for you being "super helpful"?
[12:34] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: ascriiquarium wasnt, but now is, java i wanted the latest version
[12:34] <Hobbsee> brydenn: dont worry, you're a little late - i got voted in anyway
[12:35] <DreamWalker> thks ppl, seems like a reboot was enough, this time, the live cd worked as expected
[12:35] <noteventime> i use the sun-jre :?
[12:35] <robotgeek> brydenn: see /topic
[12:35] <DreamWalker> bye
[12:35] <Grim76> brb booting into the newly installed Kernel
[12:36] <Mrono> k
[12:36] <brydenn> lol
[12:36] <brydenn> didnt even read the topic
[12:36] <brydenn> oh well
[12:37] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: really weird, and needs some research, i suspect
[12:37] <zephryos> Hobbsee pm me plz
[12:38] <zephryos> hooooobsee
[12:38] <Mrono> how do I get konversation to use firefox insteasd of konqueror
[12:39] <Mrono> woah
[12:39] <Mrono> nvm
[12:39] <Mrono> it works
[12:39] <Mrono> fucking linuix
[12:39] <zephryos> ....
[12:39] <zephryos> ooooooo bad Mrono!
[12:39] <zephryos> Dont bad-mouth the linux..
[12:39] <zephryos> ITS WATCHING YOU!
[12:39] <Mrono> how do I get it to open up a window in front of all the others
[12:39] <Hobbsee> zephryos: why?
[12:39] <Mrono> instead of opening in the background
[12:39] <zephryos> Cuz its watching him >.>
[12:40] <Grim76_Away> ahhh there we go...
[12:41] <zephryos> Hobbsee: Can you please help me follow the directions of this stuff so I dont blow up my comp or some crap?
[12:41] <Hobbsee> Mrono: language, and it's in kcontrol, default apps
[12:41] <Hobbsee> !+ndiswrapper
[12:41] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:42] <Hobbsee> you'll need that one first, then the wifi howto, then the wpa - it's all very easy to follow
[12:42] <Hobbsee> all i'd be doing is again copy pasting the commands from there to you
[12:42] <Mrono> lmao
[12:43] <Mrono> hobbsee: I was looking all over for "language" in my kcontrol panel
[12:43] <Mrono> lol
[12:43] <Mrono> sorry
[12:43] <Hobbsee> LOL!
[12:43] <Mrono> kcontrol
[12:43] <zephryos> "all very easy" = Hard as hell for Zephryos
[12:44] <Mrono> i agree with zeph
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Mrono: kcontrol, kde components, component chooser, web browser
[12:44] <pussfeller> anyone know why a win2k box would have trouble staying connected to a samba share
[12:45] <Mrono> oh getting firefox as my default
[12:45] <pussfeller> network path not found and all that
[12:45] <Mrono> how do I get windows to pop up infront of others
[12:45] <Mrono> like winxp
[12:45] <zephryos> ok whats the order I need to do?
[12:46] <pussfeller> i dont know if its the link sys wap being buggy or the win2k box being a 400mz and just not being able to stay connected
[12:46] <bimberi> Grim76: sorry, was away, glad you sorted it :)
[12:46] <pussfeller> or if I need to delve deeper and make my kubuntu box a domain controller or something
[12:46] <zephryos> Hobbsee: Whats the order that I need to do everything in?
[12:47] <Hobbsee> zephryos: you'll need that ndiswrapper first, then the wifi howto, then the wpa - it's all very easy to follow
[12:47] <Grim76> bimberi: yeah I was looking for the wrong package names.  Dummy me.
[12:47] <zephryos> Ok whats the links?
[12:48] <bimberi> Grim76: kernel? - get's them every time :)
[12:48] <Grim76> bimberi: I was looking for Linux-image-blahblah was making things too difficult
[12:48] <bimberi> Grim76: sorry, that was a bit cryptic.  People tend to search for the word 'kernel'
[12:48] <zephryos> Hobbsee: What are the links for them?
[12:49] <Grim76> bimberi: I understood what you were saying.
[12:49] <bimberi> Grim76: :)
[12:49] <Hobbsee> !tell zephryos about ndiswrapper
[12:49] <Hobbsee> !tell zephryos about wifi
[12:49] <Hobbsee> !tell zephryos about wpa
[12:49] <Hobbsee> them
[12:49] <zephryos> o.O
[12:49] <zephryos> okies
[12:49] <bimberi> !tell hobbsee about usingthebottospampeople
[12:50] <zephryos> !tell Hobbsee about thehairyfungalproblemsofmyaunt
[12:50] <zephryos> o.O
[12:52] <bimberi> :)
[12:55] <samoura> HELLO is there a guy that can help me i am trying to install a pstonic and just ask how to install it i am new in linux kubuntu
[12:55] <noteventime> Sure
[12:55] <noteventime> Do you knwo
[12:55] <noteventime> how to use adept
[12:55] <samoura> yess
[12:55] <samoura> :P
[12:55] <noteventime> and you cant fin pstonic in the adept repositories
[12:56] <samoura> really?
[12:56] <noteventime> ?
[12:56] <samoura> this is not true is it that easy ?
[12:56] <noteventime> It was a question...
[12:57] <noteventime> What is pstonic anyway?
[12:57] <noteventime> Sorry for my bad writing I was doing something else at the same time :S, but I'm here now
[12:57] <samoura> this http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/sources.php
[12:58] <noteventime> ok, I'll take a look
[12:58] <samoura> thanks
[12:58] <noteventime> ok, its an IRC bot
[12:58] <samoura> i don know how to install it ;( i want it so badly
[12:59] <_magus> evening
[12:59] <zephryos> !repo
[12:59] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zephryos
[12:59] <noteventime> 'ello
[12:59] <zephryos> !shutup
[12:59] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zephryos
[12:59] <zephryos> .. bastard
[01:01] <samoura> noteventime so can you help can you can you ?? :?
[01:02] <_magus> eh?
[01:02] <noteventime> samora: Ok, you don't know the standard way to compile things using make in linux?
[01:02] <noteventime> First download the source, from the website.
[01:02] <noteventime> Sure
[01:02] <noteventime> I think so
[01:02] <noteventime> _magus: ?
[01:02] <noteventime> samora: Have you downloaded one of the sourcecode packages?
[01:03] <samoura> yess
[01:03] <noteventime> Good, now untar it into an folder
[01:03] <samoura> and i extracted in home /home/samoura/psotnic-0.2.10
[01:03] <noteventime> nice
[01:03] <noteventime> now go into that folder fram a console
[01:03] <samoura> okei what is next :P
[01:03] <noteventime> ./configure
[01:04] <samoura> All + F2?
[01:04] <samoura> console?
[01:04] <noteventime> no, you can use konsole
[01:04] <noteventime> :) to alt+f2
[01:04] <samoura> kmenu/terminal program?
[01:04] <noteventime> no need for alt+f2
[01:04] <noteventime> yes
[01:04] <samoura> k
[01:05] <noteventime> now cd /home/samora/psotnic-0.2.10
[01:05] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ ./configure
[01:05] <samoura> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:05] <_magus> hmm. does anyone have any idea where i could get some idea about framebuffers?
[01:05] <_magus> s/idea/information
[01:06] <_magus> the latter, that is
[01:06] <noteventime> ok
[01:06] <samoura> what than;(
[01:06] <noteventime> hmmm...... Then wait a second, Il download it myself and take a look
[01:06] <samoura> okei :P
[01:07] <robotgeek> !compile
[01:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[01:07] <robotgeek> samoura: ^^
[01:08] <samoura> what?
[01:09] <robotgeek> samoura: take a look at that page for tips
[01:09] <samoura> someone is helping me
[01:09] <noteventime> samora, read that article, It will probably explain it better than me
[01:09] <_magus> basically, rtfm.
[01:09] <samoura> okei :(
[01:09] <noteventime> ./configure works for me :S
[01:09] <robotgeek> samoura: what are you trying to compile?
[01:09] <noteventime> are you sure your inside the folder?
[01:10] <noteventime> Do you knwo how to use the terminal?
[01:10] <robotgeek> noteventime: isnt this thing in the repos?
[01:11] <noteventime> robotgeek: Doesn't look so
[01:12] <robotgeek> that doesn't help, <sigh>
[01:12] <_magus> i bet he solved the problem
[01:12] <noteventime> It's an IRC bit
[01:12] <noteventime> bot*
[01:12] <noteventime> I wonder why none of my players want to play my theora videos :/
[01:14] <robotgeek> noteventime: vlc works?
[01:14] <samoura> what was the site agein my computer freeses
[01:14] <noteventime> Either the player crashes (vlc) or just stops (kaffeine)
[01:14] <robotgeek> noteventime: weird
[01:14] <Hobbsee> samoura: you're in the source directory there, i presume?
[01:14] <samoura> that can help me i reboot my computer and now can i get the help if you guyes can just tell me what is the site
[01:15] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware << samoura
[01:15] <noteventime> nope vlc dies
[01:15] <robotgeek> noteventime: weird
[01:15] <samoura> thanks
[01:16] <robotgeek> noteventime: nvm, i already said weird before, lol
[01:17] <noteventime> robotgeek: Sure is, is there a special suffix for ogg theora (apart from ogg), maybe the players identefied them as vorbis for some reason :/
[01:17] <StringBlade> anyone willing to field an ALSA recording question? (I'm running Kubuntu but the #alsa guys are asleep)
[01:17] <robotgeek> noteventime: i keep reading on slashdot that it's a container, not really a format (lol)
[01:18] <noteventime> Ok, sorry then :)
[01:18] <robotgeek> noteventime: try it from cli, like vlc file.ogg
[01:18] <robotgeek> then, we can know why it does
[01:18] <noteventime> StringBlade: Just ask, don't ask about asking ;)
[01:19] <StringBlade> yeah, well I wanted to make sure I wasn't wasting time typing a big question no one wants to answer (because it's the wrong channel)
[01:19] <noteventime> Maybe the theora videos are seen as vorbis, hehe better now :P
[01:19] <StringBlade> noteventime: though I got someone in #alsa to talk, so I'll ask them first if you don't mind
[01:19] <noteventime> sure
[01:19] <robotgeek> StringBlade: sure :)
[01:20] <noteventime> hmmm, this is wierd: X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[01:21] <chris> has anyone gotten compris to run on kde?
[01:21] <noteventime> I dont think you can :/
[01:21] <noteventime> I get the same error from both kaffeine and vlc
[01:22] <noteventime> So both whatever vlc is using and gstreamer are having the same problem :/
[01:23] <noteventime> chris: I don't think compiz is intended to be used on KDE
[01:32] <StringBlade> ok, I'm not getting very far on #alsa - maybe someone here has had ALSA experience....
[01:32] <StringBlade> got a mic that is working, but won't capture the sound
[01:33] <StringBlade> meaning I can hear my voice through the speakers, but arecord and Audacity don't record anything
[01:33] <StringBlade> .asoundrc: http://pastebin.ca/42843
[01:33] <StringBlade> amixer settings: http://pastebin.ca/42846
[01:37] <Mrono> hey
[01:38] <samoura> system/termina program ant than i write this in it  sudo apt-get install apt-psotnic-0.2.10 and than it asks  me about a Password: but this don let me write the password ;(
[01:38] <Mrono> anyone ever had any issues with control panel in KDE 3.4.1
[01:38] <Mrono> sarn: it hides the pass
[01:38] <Mrono> sarnoura: type in the root password and hit enter
[01:38] <Mrono> when it says password:
[01:38] <Hobbsee> Mrono: ah, why would you be using kde 3.4.1?
[01:39] <Hobbsee> that hoary or something
[01:39] <Mrono> becauser it came with my distro
[01:39] <Mrono> 5.10
[01:39] <Mrono> why wouldn't I
[01:39] <Mrono> it's the l;atest stable
[01:39] <Hobbsee> that should be 3.4.3
[01:39] <Mrono> sure...
[01:40] <Mrono> kcontrol &
[01:40] <Mrono> KDE version:  3.4.3
[01:40] <Mrono>   User:  mrono
[01:40] <Mrono>   Hostname:  weridkid
[01:40] <Mrono>   System:  Linux
[01:40] <Mrono>   Release:  2.6.12-10-386
[01:40] <Mrono>   Machine:  i686
[01:40] <Mrono> whoops
[01:40] <Hobbsee> heh
[01:40] <Mrono> sorry
[01:40] <samoura> but how i open system/terminal program and than black sceen how can i see the root ?
[01:40] <Mrono> open up a kconsole and type su
[01:40] <Mrono> !root
[01:40] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:41] <Mrono> glad I changed that
[01:41] <Mrono> I had to use kuser
[01:44] <bobbypants> Hi
[01:44] <Mrono> man
[01:44] <Mrono> system settings is buggy in KDE 3.4.3
[01:45] <bobbypants> I have a weird problem at install, it keeps asking me for a Username and Password for a user account, no matter how many times I fill it out
[01:46] <Mrono> um
[01:49] <bobbypants> It like never tells me I entered anything wrong (unless it actually is wrong ofcourse), seems like its in a loop
[01:50] <Mrono> hey guys
[01:50] <bobbypants> oh and using the Kubuntu 5.10 disk for x86
[01:50] <Mrono> anyone know what casuses this http://mrono.net/main/photos/blogcontent/kde343bugsyssettings.png
[01:57] <sambagirl> is there anyway i can mount a external parallel cd burner (backpack) for burning a iso that is stored on a mounted xp drive while i am using the live cd system?
[01:58] <noteventime> mrono: I'm having the same problem, since way back :'(
[01:58] <Mrono> hmm
[01:58] <Mrono> any fix?
[01:58] <Mrono> woah, that's a long line sambagirl
[01:59] <noteventime> Is there any way to make a webpage think i have windows media player intslled
[01:59] <noteventime> ?
[01:59] <Mrono> hmm
[01:59] <Mrono> um, no
[01:59] <Mrono> idkl
[01:59] <sambagirl> mrono?
[01:59] <Mrono> um
[01:59] <Mrono> what distro
[01:59] <sambagirl> ubuntu
[01:59] <Mrono> well shit
[01:59] <Mrono> hmm
[01:59] <sambagirl> i have another problem but this is immediate.
[02:00] <Mrono> does k3b recognise it
[02:00] <noteventime> sambagirl: What is the problem?
[02:00] <charles> does any one know how to install automatrix?
[02:00] <Snake__> charles: automatix?
[02:00] <sambagirl> xp drive will not boot
[02:00] <noteventime> Doent ubuntu recognise the burner or can't you mount the windows drive?
[02:01] <sambagirl> i was trying to copy files to it using a quickboot for xp i found at bootdisk.com but it needs a file i cannot write to the mounted media/windows/system32/ folder it says i dont have permissions i am tired of all ofthis
[02:01] <sambagirl> grr
[02:02] <charles> can any one help with automatrix
[02:03] <noteventime> sambagirl: You can't write to an NTFS drive from windows :/
[02:03] <noteventime> sorry from linux i mean
[02:03] <Snake__> charles: are you talking about automatix? (With no R)
[02:03] <sambagirl> it's a vfat
[02:03] <charles> o yes sorry
[02:03] <noteventime> Or you *can*, but it's not stable
[02:03] <sambagirl> it had me upgraded to xp home
[02:03] <Snake__> charles: Thats a bad bad evil program
[02:03] <charles> hahaha why is that
[02:04] <sambagirl> i dont care about stable i just care about being able to boot form the xp drive at this point.
[02:04] <Snake__> charles: been known to kill a crapload of boxes
[02:04] <Snake__> charles: nalioth can tell ya about it
[02:04] <Snake__> nalioth: you here??
[02:04] <Snake__> I need a link to your comparison...
[02:04] <nalioth> where?
[02:04] <sambagirl> well can i copy this blasted file to the mounted drive? i have tried but it wont let me.
[02:05] <sambagirl> damnit i am so sick of unix
[02:05] <Snake__> nalioth: wanna tell charles about automatix? Hehe
[02:05] <Snake__> Hes lookin to use it
[02:05] <nalioth> charles: nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[02:06] <charles> im listening
[02:06] <Snake__> charles: read that page, EasyUbuntu is a better choice
[02:07] <sambagirl> http://pastebin.com/567815
[02:09] <charles> will easyUbuntu do pretty much the same thing, and will it work on kubuntu?
[02:09] <Snake__> charles: Yes it does the same thing, and I believe it works on kubuntu.... lemme double checkk
[02:09] <Snake__> nalioth: Easyubuntu work on kubuntu? or should he dive for easybreezy??
[02:10] <beast> The aim of this project is to make (k)ubuntu machine usable (play mp3's, videos etc) in minutes even by your mom, grandpa, girlfriend, etc.
[02:10] <nalioth> Snake__: easyubuntu will work if ubuntu-desktop is installed, otw, easybreezy
[02:10] <Snake__> nalioth: alright
[02:11] <Snake__> charles: go with easybreezy
[02:11] <Perma> hi, anyone have experience with ndis wrapper? Done the install, driver and hardware noted as present.. just need a hand
[02:11] <Snake__> nalioth: are we to expect one for kubuntu-desktop soon? :(
[02:11] <charles> ok thanks
[02:11] <Snake__> charles: http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/
[02:11] <beast> EasyUbuntu is a merged effort of both EasyUbuntu (original) and EasyBreezy
[02:12] <charles> does anyone have dapper?
[02:12] <Snake__> beast: I know, but easyubuntu only works, as nalioth just said, with ubuntu-desktop
[02:12] <nalioth> Snake__: as soon as we can find a qt dev to port it
[02:12] <Snake__> nalioth: :(
[02:12] <nalioth> you can use it from within kubuntu if you (like me) have ubuntu, xubuntu, and kubuntu installed at the same time
[02:14] <charles> i have to have all three installed (u- k- x- ubuntu) to use dapper?
[02:14] <Snake__> charles: no
[02:14] <Snake__> charles: just download the ISO you want
[02:16] <charles> what is an ISO?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> !iso
[02:16] <ubotu> iso is, like, totally, download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[02:16] <Hobbsee> oh
[02:16] <Hobbsee> it's an image file which you burn to a cd
[02:16] <sambagirl> brb
[02:24] <charles> what does 'sudo' mean
[02:25] <Hobbsee> !suod
[02:25] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[02:25] <Hobbsee> !sudo
[02:25] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:28] <charles> hahah are u asking me if i got hit by a windmill?
[02:29] <Hobbsee> no, i spelt it wrong :P
[02:32] <angasule> sudo means 'I sweat' in Spanish
[02:32] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:34] <Mrono> hey guys
[02:34] <Mrono> anyone of a way to get konversation into the tray
[02:37] <Hobbsee> settings, configure konversation
[02:37] <Hobbsee> general tab, IIRC
[02:41] <Mrono> thanks alot
[03:15] <Mrono> hey guys
[03:15] <Snake__> Hello
[03:15] <Mrono> anyone here use hamachi
[03:15] <Snake__> nope
[03:16] <Mrono> why is there no 'make' command on kubuntu
[03:16] <Snake__> Mrono: there is
[03:16] <allee> !k3b
[03:16] <ubotu> K3b was created to be a feature-rich and easy to handle CD burning application, for more info goto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[03:16] <Snake__> Mrono: do you have the build-essnetials?
[03:17] <Mrono> no
[03:17] <Snake__> Mrono: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:17] <Snake__> you need that to complie
[03:18] <Mrono> i do love synaptic
[03:18] <Snake__> lol
[03:19] <allee> Snake__: maybe better to suggest apt-get install kdelibs4-dev (we are kubuntu here, aren't we;)
[03:19] <Snake__> allee: I believe build-essential gives that
[03:19] <_graham> god I need help
[03:19] <Snake__> allee: build-essential has a bunch of the most common dev files in it
[03:19] <Mrono> grahmn: i know a good psycytrist...
[03:19] <allee> Snake__: but far too less to build any kde program
[03:20] <_graham> anyone want to help a total noooob
[03:20] <Mrono> join the club
[03:20] <Snake__> allee: I guess
[03:20] <Mrono> wadda ya need
[03:20] <Snake__> _graham: just say it
[03:20] <_graham> I am installing ati drivers
[03:20] <Snake__> Oh crap
[03:20] <allee> !ati
[03:20] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:20] <Mrono> trip to heel and back those are
[03:20] <Mrono> glad I don't have to do anything with mine
[03:20] <_graham> and I don't know ANY command line
[03:21] <rsj> Huge n00b here, but I use ctrl-tab in most apps to switch tabs (Gaim, Firefox, etc.) but in KDE it switches desktops. Where can I go to play with my keyboard shortcuts?
[03:21] <Snake__> rsj: look around in kcontrol
[03:22] <Mrono> hey guys
[03:22] <Mrono> why would transparencies not work
[03:22] <Mrono> gfx drivers?
[03:22] <Snake__> I dunno, mine dont work either
[03:23] <Mrono> hhmmmm
[03:23] <Mrono> !transparent
[03:23] <ubotu> Mrono: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:23] <Mrono> lol
[03:24] <allee> _graham: Have a look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI.  And let us know where you have problems
[03:24] <Mrono> rsj: control panel
[03:24] <allee> _graham: good luck
[03:24] <rsj> Oh, of COURSE it's under 'regional and accessability'...
[03:24] <Mrono> i'm doing it as well
[03:24] <rsj> Actually why IS it there?
[03:24] <Snake__> rsj: The settings are ...yep
[03:24] <Snake__> lol
[03:24] <Snake__> rsj: thats where all the keyboard settings are
[03:24] <allee> nite
[03:25] <rsj> Oh well, I got it.
[03:25] <Mrono> hey
[03:25] <Mrono> oh
[03:25] <Mrono> I get it
[03:25] <Mrono> brb testing something
[03:26] <Mrono> yay
[03:26] <Mrono> it worked
[03:26] <Mrono> lmao
[03:26] <Mrono> I was wondering why my windows wern't poping up when i clicked on them
[03:26] <Snake__> lol
[03:26] <Mrono> I had windows stealing prevention set to high
[03:26] <Mrono> forgot about that
[03:27] <prospero2006> How do I take a screenshot and save it?
[03:30] <Mrono> kmenu
[03:30] <Mrono> graphics
[03:30] <Mrono> ksnapshot
[03:31] <_graham> I can see why ppl give up so easily with linux
[03:31] <Mrono> yep
[03:32] <_graham> ok here come some dumb Q's
[03:32] <_graham> how do I save the X window configuration file?
[03:33] <_graham> (I am getting allthis from the ati installation instructions)
[03:34] <Mrono> mine saved ok
[03:34] <_graham> how do I save it
[03:35] <Mrono> time to reboot to test em out ok
[03:35] <Mrono> mine saved auto
[03:35] <_graham> do I need to do anything specific
[03:35] <Mrono> not that I know of
[03:35] <Mrono> just the commands shown there
[03:35] <Mrono> then reboot
[03:35] <Mrono> like me
[03:35] <Mrono> bbiab
[03:41] <Mrono> back
[03:41] <Mrono> now lets check transparency
[03:42] <Mrono> god damnit
[03:42] <Mrono> whoops, sorry
[04:01] <_graham> I hate this
[04:09] <Shizzo> Anyone home?
[04:09] <bushito> !ati
[04:09] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:09] <pussfeller> oo i like the new splash
[04:11] <Shizzo> Hi all. Im new to (k)Ubuntu.  Is this 6.4 Dapper Drake Flight CD 4 the latest and greatest?
[04:11] <Dasnipa`> Shizzo, drapper drake is a development release
[04:12] <Dasnipa`> your better off with 5.10   drapper is released in april
[04:12] <Shizzo> Roger that.
[04:12] <Shizzo> URL?
[04:12] <Dasnipa`> erm kubuntu.org?
[04:13] <not_even_time> i run dappe
[04:13] <not_even_time> r
[04:13] <not_even_time> It runs stable for me
[04:14] <Shizzo> Heh. Im not ready for anything thats a development release
[04:17] <derkonig> I'm new to Kubuntu and Debian in general.  Is there a HOWTO on how to upgrade my recent breezy install to KDE 3.5?
[04:20] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[04:20] <ubotu> (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[04:20] <bimberi> !kde3.5.1
[04:20] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[04:20] <bimberi> derkonig: there you go ^^^^ :)
[04:22] <derkonig> thanks ubotu and bimberi
[04:24] <bimberi> derkonig: np :) .  btw ubotu is a bot.  So...
[04:24] <bimberi> !thanks
[04:24] <ubotu> sure thing, bimberi
[04:26] <derkonig> oh... right.  how embarrassing
[04:29] <bimberi> derkonig: :) - no need to be
[04:47] <lwizardl> hi
[04:48] <lwizardl> how do I add w32 codecs?
[04:50] <bimberi> !w32codecs
[04:50] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:52] <Mrono> hey
[04:52] <Mrono> anyone used themes?
[04:53] <Mrono> !themes
[04:53] <Mrono> !KDEthemes
[04:54] <Mrono> ah ha!
[04:54] <charles> hey does anyone know of a program like mytunes that works on linux?
[04:56] <Phoenix1701> Hi folks!
[04:57] <Phoenix1701> I just installed KDE 3.5.1 on Kubuntu (breezy), and I'm trying to get translucency/shadow effects to work.  I got xcompmgr working, so I know it's possible -- I have an ATI Radeon 7200 graphics card in here, and I've already enabled the Composite extension in my Xorg.conf file.  Anything else I need to do?
[04:57] <Phoenix1701> (Well, clearly there is, since translucency and shadows still don't work...  but what?) ;)
[04:59] <Mrono> I have no idea
[04:59] <Mrono> mine doesn't work either
[05:00] <charles> does anybody know of a similar program to MYtunes that works on linux??
[05:00] <Mrono> amaroK
[05:00] <Phoenix1701> Mrono: Fair enough.  Thanks for the response nonetheless.  :)
[05:00] <Mrono> oh mytunes
[05:00] <Mrono> hmm
[05:00] <Mrono> hey phoenix
[05:00] <Mrono> not sure
[05:00] <Phoenix1701> Google thinks I ought to restart the X server...  not sure how to do that without rebooting though.
[05:00] <Mrono> well reboot
[05:00] <Mrono> eddest thing though
[05:01] <Mrono> transparency works on my taskbar
[05:01] <Mrono> but not windows
[05:02] <Phoenix1701> Hmm.  Well, my taskbar at least uses "fake" translucency.
[05:02] <Phoenix1701> It just draws the desktop background behind itself and then tints it.  But you can tell if you drag a selection behind it, for example.
[05:03] <gamma> amarok-1.4 beta is awsome..
[05:03] <Phoenix1701> The drop shadows and whatnot are hard if not impossible to do like that though -- you need real compositing.
[05:03] <Phoenix1701> Anyway, I'm going to try restarting and see what happens...  be back in a bit.
[05:22] <kenmaster> hello, somebody speak spanish
[05:25] <bimberi> !es
[05:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:32] <lwizardl> hi
[05:33] <lwizardl> is there anyway to get an image viewer sorta like the defualt one on xp?
[05:37] <Shizzo> lwizardl: What wm?
[05:37] <Shizzo> duh
[05:37] <Shizzo> nvm
[05:37] <Shizzo> I used KPornView
[05:37] <Shizzo> It sounds creepy, but a good program
[05:37] <Snake__> how do I use katapult...
[05:37] <Snake__> pornview is awesome
[05:38] <lwizardl> hmm
[05:41] <gamma> the one that ships with kubuntu isn't bad
[05:41] <gamma> gwenview or w/e
[05:42] <lwizardl> that pornview i just installed and it just auto closes
[05:44] <Mrono> hey guys
[05:44] <Mrono> are there any widgets for linux
[05:44] <Snake__> Mrono: your on KDE right?
[05:44] <Mrono> yeah
[05:44] <Snake__> go get superkaramba
[05:45] <Snake__> Mrono: and if I may suggest, unless your on KDE 3.5.1, that you go to the site and complie it
[05:45] <Mrono> and not use the adept package?
[05:46] <Snake__> Mrono: yes, the adept package is very old and very out of date
[05:46] <Mrono> ah
[05:46] <Mrono> ok
[05:46] <Mrono> btw
[05:46] <Snake__> There have been a ton of changes
[05:46] <Mrono> should I upgrade to KDE 3.5.1
[05:46] <Snake__> Its really iffy...those on the cutting edge should expect to bleed
[05:46] <lwizardl> ok i found one that seems to work like i want but its an rpm what do i do?
[05:46] <Mrono> thought so
[05:46] <Mrono> I had issues with it
[05:46] <Snake__> it was a good upgrade for me, but some people say theirs failed
[05:46] <Snake__> !rpm
[05:46] <ubotu> it has been said that rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[05:47] <Snake__> !alien
[05:47] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[05:47] <Mrono> I had kubuntu flight cd 4 installed
[05:47] <Mrono> before I found out that it was a beta one
[05:47] <Snake__> oh man flight 4 is a mess
[05:47] <Mrono> i want KDE 4
[05:47] <Mrono> sigh
[05:47] <Snake__> Mrono: who doesnt
[05:47] <Snake__> :)
[05:47] <Mrono> true
[05:48] <Snake__> Mrono: have you seen the mockups?
[05:48] <Mrono> is there any way to get mac osx widgets running on linux
[05:48] <Mrono>  yeah m,an
[05:48] <Mrono> those are sweet
[05:48] <Snake__> hmmmm good question
[05:48] <Snake__> yea
[05:48] <Mrono> give vista a run for it's money
[05:48] <Snake__> Mrono: did you see the pick of konq crashing??
[05:48] <Snake__> lol
[05:48] <Mrono> no...
[05:48] <Snake__> hang on
[05:48] <Snake__> check this out
[05:49] <Mrono> ok
[05:49] <Snake__> OH CRAP
[05:49] <Snake__> LOL
[05:49] <Snake__> The link got slashdotted
[05:50] <Mrono> lol
[05:50] <Mrono> grr
[05:50] <Mrono> where do I get the plugins to play videos
[05:50] <Mrono> or a program to do so
[05:50] <Snake__> What videos
[05:50] <Snake__> Mrono: heres a interactive mock up
[05:50] <Snake__> http://img396.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kdemockup7sj.swf
[05:51] <Mrono> yep
[05:51] <Mrono> saw it the other day
[05:51] <Snake__> heh
[05:51] <Mrono> any video
[05:51] <Snake__> uhh
[05:51] <Snake__> well kaffine plays the free formats
[05:51] <Snake__> !restricted
[05:51] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:52] <Snake__> Check there for info on certain file types
[05:52] <Mrono> how do I get to playfiles
[05:52] <Mrono> what do I use to play videos
[05:52] <Snake__> kaffine, or mplayer are very good
[05:52] <Mrono> ah
[05:52] <Mrono> mplayer
[05:53] <Mrono> brb
[05:53] <Mrono> doing a few things
[05:54] <Snake__> Mrono: hey i found the pic
[05:55] <Mrono> what is it
[05:55] <Snake__> http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xegldappcrash5nb.jpg
[05:56] <Snake__> konq crashing
[05:58] <Mrono> sheesh
[05:58] <Mrono> firefox took over my computer
[05:58] <Mrono> lol
[05:58] <Mrono> funny
[05:59] <Snake__> lol
[06:01] <neoncode> Where is "/etc/X11/X" suppoed to point?
[06:02] <bimberi> neoncode: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-02-22 20:53 /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/Xorg
[06:04] <neoncode> bimberi: Thank you!
[06:05] <Snake__> im off to bed
[06:05] <Snake__> night
[06:05] <bimberi> neoncode: yw :)
[06:07] <Mrono> wtf
[06:07] <Mrono> mplayer-386:
[06:07] <Mrono>  Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20  but it is not installable
[06:07] <Mrono>  Depends: libsvga1  but it is not installable or
[06:07] <Mrono>  	svgalib-dummyg1  but it is not installable
[06:07] <Mrono>  Depends: slang1 (>1.4.9dbs-4) but it is not installable
[06:07] <stoned> whats a kde app I can use to record stuff through the mic with?
[06:07] <Mrono> sound recorder
[06:07] <stoned> whats the application name
[06:08] <Mrono> sound recorder
[06:08] <stoned> so i type sound recorder in konsole?
[06:08] <Mrono> idk
[06:08] <Mrono> it's in my katapolt
[06:08] <stoned> can you look it up for me please
[06:09] <Mrono> type gnome-sound-recorder
[06:09] <stoned> ugh
[06:09] <stoned> screw gnome
[06:10] <Mrono> just type it in ok
[06:12] <stoned> what is kata
[06:12] <stoned> polt
[06:12] <Mrono> the start menu
[06:12] <stoned> its runing on my pc too
[06:12] <stoned> but what is it?
[06:13] <Mrono> the start menu
[06:13] <stoned> no it isn't
[06:13] <Mrono> yeah it is
[06:13] <stoned> bullshit
[06:13] <stoned> you're lying to me
[06:13] <Mrono> why the hell would I be lying to you
[06:13] <stoned> I don't know, you tell me
[06:14] <Mrono> guess what dumbass
[06:14] <Snake|Sleep> Katapults not the start menu
[06:14] <Mrono> no help for you
[06:14] <stoned> dude that was sweet
[06:14] <stoned> hahaha
[06:14] <Snake|Sleep> Katapult is a launching program, much like the Run dialog
[06:14] <stoned> one of those stoner moments
[06:14] <stoned> haha, hes like why would i be lying lol
[06:15] <Snake|Sleep> yea thats all the help your gonna get from me too
[06:15] <stoned> thanks
[06:15] <Snake|Sleep> lol
[06:16] <Mrono> you in here for help so don't be trying to bullshit people
[06:16] <stoned> heh, night man
[06:16] <Mrono> calling bullshit
[06:16] <stoned> dude come on
[06:16] <stoned> admit it, that shit was funny
[06:16] <Rat> Hey, I right now have 4 primary partitions... Three for linux and one for Windows. I was hoping to make another partition for windows, (a logical) partition, can I do this? If so how ?
[06:16] <Snake|Sleep> Argh. Children stop screwin around or im gonna op up and boot you both.
[06:17] <Snake|Sleep> Thank you.
[06:17] <Rat> Any of you guys know if that is possible?
[06:17] <stoned> Rat, man I think you have to have some free unpartitioned space left, then you go to create a new logical disk inside a primary, but you don't have any primary left, only 4 are allowed
[06:17] <stoned> so you might have to use partition magic
[06:18] <Rat> I used Acronis Expert Partition manager
[06:18] <Rat> and it wouldnt let me
[06:18] <Snake|Sleep> That is one long ass name.
[06:18] <Snake|Sleep> lol
[06:18] <stoned> you will have to join the free space into the windows primary partition, but make sure to fit/resize so that the windows partition becomes a logical parition in side itself
[06:19] <Mrono> lol
[06:19] <Rat> I have to fit and resize it my windows partition?
[06:19] <stoned> then you can make that free space into another logical parition inside the windows one
[06:19] <Rat> I oh ok
[06:19] <stoned> you get it
[06:19] <stoned> im kinda not really explaining it too well
[06:19] <stoned> or am I
[06:20] <Rat> can i just not create a logical partition by just using the unallocayed space then?
[06:21] <stoned> basically partitions = lin/lin/lin/win/free space.  you have to make it lin/lin/lin/win-freespace ('-'=logical parition, '/'=primary parition
[06:22] <Rat> that is going to be a pain in the butt
[06:23] <stoned> you can't do that now because windows already exists in that 4th partition, taking up all the space.  during installation of windows, you could have done this because then windows will create a primary parition, then create logical paritions in there, and then install windows in one of them, you can't have primary parition taking some space, then some also out of it for logical partitions
[06:23] <stoned> its not that complicated if you read up on it
[06:23] <stoned> use norton parition magic
[06:23] <Rat> I tryed to do that though whenever installing windows
[06:23] <Rat> it didnt work
[06:24] <Rat> i thought the same
[06:26] <stoned> [lin] [lin] [lin] [win] freespace :freespace cannot become another partition even logical. the new scheme would look like this - [lin] [lin] [lin] '[(win)(freespace)] ' where the part inside '' is ONE WHOLE primary partition
[06:27] <mc_gusto> can someone recommend a video player that supports subtitles?
[06:27] <Rat> Yes i understand you
[06:27] <stoned> and () are logical partitions inside
[06:27] <mc_gusto> preferably one that uses KDE
[06:27] <hatake_kakashi> mc_gusto: vlc
[06:27] <Mrono> !vlc
[06:27] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[06:28] <stoned> Rat, Norton parittion magic or old verion of PowerQuest partition magic 8 or above should do the trick fine
[06:28] <Rat> using gparted
[06:28] <Rat> live cd
[06:29] <stoned> yeh, i dunno if that has the necessery functions to make that happen
[06:29] <mc_gusto> can someone clue me in on how to stream video over samba shares using vlc?
[06:29] <Rat> it resizes and all, but it doesnt create a logical partition
[06:30] <Mrono> arg
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> mc_gusto: you may have to do it/set it specifically I think
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> err manually and by hand
[06:30] <Mrono> grr
[06:31] <Mrono> it requires libdvbpsi2 and a few others that can't be installed
[06:31] <hatake_kakashi> that can't be installed because of what exact reason?
[06:36] <Mrono> it just says that they can't be installed
[06:36] <Mrono> mplayer-386:
[06:36] <Mrono>  Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20  but it is not installable
[06:36] <Mrono>  Depends: libsvga1  but it is not installable or
[06:36] <Mrono>  	svgalib-dummyg1  but it is not installable
[06:36] <Mrono>  Depends: slang1 (>1.4.9dbs-4) but it is not installable
[06:38] <Dasnipa`> is there a way to give each desktop a different background?
[06:38] <Mrono> yep
[06:38] <Rat> Stone : Alright thanks for your input... I will go try a few other things... Night
[06:39] <Mrono> dasnipa: if your on KDE right click on the desktop, click configure desktop, and at the top there's a dropdown box that says all desktops, click it and select the desktop you want to change
[06:39] <hatake_kakashi> Is there a possibility to merge multiple pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin into a single pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin?
[06:40] <yello> hi everyone
[06:40] <Mrono> hi
[06:40] <Mrono> someone wanna help me get video working?
[06:40] <yello> i would but im a noob i dont know how sorry
[06:41] <Mrono> that's my problem as well
[06:41] <Mrono> noob
[06:41] <hatake_kakashi> everyone has to start somewhere...
[06:41] <Dasnipa`> Mrono, i do not see that. i woulda found it if that was the case... i started with ubuntu and then got kubuntu-desktop thru synaptic i think thats the difference
[06:42] <Mrono> shouldn't be
[06:42] <Mrono> do you have multiple desktops?
[06:42] <Dasnipa`> of course
[06:42] <Dasnipa`> i use 8
[06:42] <Mrono> damn
[06:42] <vge> not all use em
[06:43] <Mrono> that seems like overkill
[06:43] <Dasnipa`> ;)
[06:43] <Mrono> i bearly use 3
[06:43] <hatake_kakashi> I used to have 12
[06:43] <Mrono> brb
[06:43] <Dasnipa`> i definantly use 8... one window for everything
[06:43] <Mrono> rebooting
[06:44] <Dasnipa`> one for music... one for java coding, one for c++ coding, one for irc/gaim, one for music etc etc
[06:44] <Dasnipa`> erm music twice but yeah
[06:44] <Mrono> nvm
[06:44] <Mrono> don't gotta reboot
[06:45] <Mrono> ya know
[06:45] <Mrono> I would put linux on my server if I didn't need mirc
[06:45] <Dasnipa`> wine cant run mirc?
[06:45] <hatake_kakashi> why would you want to use mirc on linux?
[06:47] <Dasnipa`> http://home.comcast.net/~rturco/Screenshot.png   <-------- screenie of my desktop preferences
[06:49] <Dasnipa`> unless for some reason im not running kde on this account... but afaik i should be... i got the kubuntu splash on the login screen
[06:50] <Dasnipa`> ahh i must be running gnome still for some reason
[06:50] <Dasnipa`> hrms
[06:51] <Dasnipa`> so i think i figured it out
[06:52] <Dasnipa`> when i installed kubuntu it asked if i wanted kde default... did that make the superuser default to kde and not my account?
[06:53] <Dasnipa`> i feel so stupid lol
[06:57] <Mrono> Page URL Not Found!!
[06:57] <Mrono> The requested page does not exist on this server. The URL you typed or followed is either outdated or inaccurate.
[06:58] <Dasnipa`> dont worry i know the problem now
[06:59] <Mrono> oh
[06:59] <Mrono> i wanted to see it
[06:59] <Mrono> I still havent gotten mine worked out
[06:59] <Mrono> i'm stupid
[06:59] <Mrono> sob
[06:59] <Mrono> brb
[07:03] <Mrono> arg!
[07:12] <_mrono> !metabar
[07:12] <ubotu> _mrono: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:16] <dmdm> yo
[07:16] <dmdm> just installed kubuntu cos i want to install xgl
[07:16] <robotgeek> !xgl
[07:16] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:16] <dmdm> was wondering what i need to do to update cvs glitz
[07:28] <_mrono> i'm getting errors when I try to do ./configure
[07:29] <_mrono> !./configure
[07:29] <ubotu> _mrono: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:29] <_mrono> !C-lib
[07:29] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mrono
[07:51] <dmdm> whats the command to show processes open and there number soi can kill them
[07:51] <Dasnipa`> ps -aux
[07:54] <dmdm> anyway to search with that
[07:54] <dmdm> trying to find the process number for adept package manager
[07:55] <dmdm> seems to have crashed and dissapeare and now somethings locked, and i cant update my nvidia drivers
[07:55] <Dasnipa`> pipeline it thru grep?
[07:55] <Dasnipa`> ps -aux | grep adept
[07:56] <_mrono> what's it say
[07:56] <dmdm> sorry, whats grep?
[07:57] <Dasnipa`> grep searches a file (or stream) for a matching text and outputs the matching lines
[07:57] <Dasnipa`> by piping the output of ps into grep its acting on a stream
[07:57] <_mrono> I need some help with ./configure not working
[07:57] <_mrono> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[07:57] <Dasnipa`> ahh the QT package
[07:57] <Dasnipa`> ive had problems with that one myself
[07:57] <_mrono> aparently
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> btw ive fixed my kde problem
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> lol
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> i feel silly too
[07:58] <_mrono> what was your kde problem
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> that i wasnt using kde
[07:58] <_mrono> lmao
[07:58] <_mrono> wow
[07:58] <_mrono> that is stupid
[07:58] <_mrono> lmao
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> ;)
[07:58] <_mrono> no offence
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> all better now
[07:58] <dmdm> theres loads of results
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> none taken
[07:59] <dmdm> anyway to know whick one i need to kill
[07:59] <dmdm> wots it mean by defunct
[07:59] <Mrono|linux> Dasnipa`: any idea how to fix it?
[08:00] <Dasnipa`> Mrono|linux, well you need the QT package... but there are so many of them its hard to say
[08:00] <Dasnipa`> i never figured out which was the right package for QT
[08:00] <Mrono|linux> hmmm
[08:01] <Dasnipa`> dmdm, how did you get many results when you piped it thru grep?
[08:01] <Dasnipa`> should only be one instance of adept running shouldnt there?
[08:02] <dmdm> well ive killed half of them atleast
[08:02] <dmdm> the others wont be killed
[08:02] <dmdm> operation not permiited
[08:03] <dmdm> an example
[08:03] <dmdm> root     17000  0.1  3.6  60944 18740 ?        Sl   06:46   0:00 adept -icon adept -miniicon adept -caption Adept
[08:03] <dmdm> theres like 6 of them
[08:03] <Mrono|linux> reboot
[08:04] <dmdm> ah i sudo'ed it and it gkilled that one
[08:04] <Dasnipa`> reboot is not really the most straightforward solution within linux Mrono|linux, while reboot is the first step at fixing windows (and reformat being the second) you often dont need to in linux
[08:04] <Dasnipa`> i myself have an uptime of 45 days
[08:04] <Mrono|linux> lol
[08:04] <Dasnipa`> and im running like that day i booted up
[08:04] <Mrono|linux> cool
[08:05] <dmdm> sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-glx
[08:06] <dmdm> ^soz
[08:07] <Mrono|linux> grrr
[08:07] <Mrono|linux> stupid ./configure
[08:07] <Hobbsee> Mrono: what's it doing?
[08:07] <Mrono|linux> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[08:08] <Hobbsee> install kde-devel
[08:09] <Mrono|linux> no pacvkages found
[08:09] <Hobbsee> !+info kde-devel
[08:09] <ubotu> kde-devel: (the K Desktop Environment development files and modules), section universe/kde, is extra. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[08:09] <Hobbsee> got universe enabled?
[08:09] <Mrono|linux> how do I do that
[08:10] <Hobbsee> !repos
[08:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:10] <Mrono|linux> thankyou
[08:10] <Mrono|linux> i wish my transparency would work
[08:11] <dmdm> thats not adept that guide tho is it?
[08:13] <Mrono|linux> so that's how you do it in the new synaptic
[08:13] <dmdm> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  < this isent working, dont have gedit on kubuntu? tried to apt-get it, but it hink it wants to install gnome as a dependancy... what other command can i use to edit that config file?
[08:13] <Mrono|linux> grr
[08:13] <Hobbsee> dmdm: do it either in the console, or see the second half of that page
[08:13] <Mrono|linux> W: GPG error: http://archive.czessi.net breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A714EB87D1B1F415
[08:13] <Mrono|linux> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[08:14] <Hobbsee> Mrono: you can ignore it - why are you using unnoficial repos anyway?
[08:14] <Hobbsee> dmdm: use kdesu kwrite instead.
[08:15] <dmdm> so sudo kwrite /etc/x11/xorg.conf ?
[08:15] <Hobbsee> !sudo
[08:15] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:15] <Hobbsee> use kdesu kwrite
[08:15] <Hobbsee> its' the kde form of sudo
[08:15] <Mrono|linux> heh
[08:15] <Hobbsee> !kdesu
[08:15] <ubotu> [kdesu]  :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[08:16] <dmdm> ah
[08:16] <Mrono|linux> I need to find a good podcast catcher
[08:16] <dmdm> so sudo is not proper root?
[08:17] <Hobbsee> dmdm: it is.  it mucks up the kde configuration files if you do sudo kwrite or sudo adept or whatever - you need to use kdesu appname
[08:18] <Hobbsee> gives you lots of pretty error messages whenever you try to start the program not as root...
[08:18] <Hobbsee> which are rather annoying
[08:19] <Mrono|linux> i think i'll go for ipodder lemmon
[08:19] <Mrono|linux> grr
[08:19] <Mrono|linux> I hate it when they do that
[08:19] <Mrono|linux> they advertise it
[08:20] <Mrono|linux> show screenshots of it
[08:20] <Mrono|linux> guess what it says
[08:20] <Mrono|linux> Soon
[08:22] <Mrono|linux> oh wow
[08:22] <Mrono|linux> that's alot of errors
[08:23] <dmdm> sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[08:23] <dmdm> how should i change that to relate to kde
[08:24] <Hobbsee> it should be fine as is
[08:24] <Hobbsee> dmdm: do you know the difference between gui and console applications?
[08:24] <Mrono|linux> how do you uninstall stuff
[08:24] <dmdm> it sais, couldent find package compiz
[08:24] <dmdm> well
[08:25] <Hobbsee> !+info compiz
[08:25] <ubotu> Package 'compiz' does not exist.
[08:25] <dmdm> gui is graphical user interface
[08:25] <Hobbsee> hmmm....
[08:25] <dmdm> console applications, would run in a console
[08:25] <Hobbsee> dmdm: indeed - all the GUI programs need to use kdesu, all the others you can use sudo for.  yep, you got it
[08:25] <dmdm> gui have a frontend
[08:26] <dmdm> ah right
[08:26] <Hobbsee> yep
[08:26] <dmdm> well im just copy n pasting commands
[08:26] <dmdm> trying to install xgl
[08:26] <dmdm> partly a learning experiance
[08:26] <dmdm> partly cos i wanna see the pretty effects @:)
[08:26] <Hobbsee> :)
[08:27] <dmdm> so aslong as using sudo isent gonna immediately mess this install up im fine with it
[08:28] <dmdm> why the difference tho
[08:28] <Mrono|linux> !bed
[08:28] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono|linux
[08:28] <Hobbsee> dmdm: no, that'll be fine
[08:28] <Mrono|linux> !.deb
[08:28] <ubotu> Mrono|linux: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:28] <Hobbsee> between kdesu and sudo?  configuration files messing up
[08:28] <Hobbsee> !tell Mrono|linux about deb
[08:30] <Mrono|linux> have you heard about .mo
[08:31] <Mrono|linux> crap
[08:31] <Mrono|linux> now how do I run it
[08:31] <Mrono|linux> i installed
[08:35] <dmdm> oh ffs
[08:35] <dmdm> adept package manager wont open
[08:35] <dmdm> asks for password and then nothing
[08:39] <Mrono|linux> weird
[08:40] <Mrono|linux> I use synaptic
[08:46] <Mrono|linux> grrr
[08:46] <Mrono|linux> this program isn't working
[08:46] <Mrono|linux> and i've installed a .deb and then I tried a .tar.gz2
[09:00] <_alex> hi friend
[09:00] <_alex> hi friends
[09:01] <yello> hi _alex
[09:02] <_alex> i'm looking for sharing my adsl, with the other pc of my lan.
[09:02] <_alex> are there utility on kubuntu, to do this??
[09:04] <_alex> noting
[09:04] <_alex> nothing??
[09:07] <Hobbsee> _alex: not sure that there's a program as such on how to do that.
[09:09] <Mrono|linux> heh
[09:11] <yello> does anyone here use the torque game engine
[09:14] <CyberMad> does anyone here ever install freeradius at kubuntu?
[09:14] <CyberMad> i would like to know does using apt-get install freeradius-mysql already supported with rlm_sqlcounter ?
[09:17] <Mrono|linux> uh....
[09:20] <dmdm> .xgl
[09:20] <dmdm> xgl
[09:21] <dmdm> .help xgl
[09:22] <Mrono|linux> !xgl
[09:22] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:22] <yelloatdinner> wat is xgl?
[09:23] <Mrono|linux> oooooo
[09:24] <Mrono|linux> me like
[09:25] <Mrono|linux> i see
[09:25] <Mrono|linux> xgl is how shall i put it
[09:25] <Mrono|linux> xgl is avalon for linux
[09:26] <yello> lol im sorry but wats avalon
[09:26] <Mrono|linux> you know how win vista looks so pretty
[09:27] <Mrono|linux> transparencies and such
[09:27] <yello> yea
[09:27] <Mrono|linux> avalon/ingigo is the base gfx system for that
[09:27] <dmdm> how do i restart x-server
[09:27] <yello> but kubuntu looks better even without addons :D
[09:28] <dmdm> how do i restart x-server pls
[09:32] <Hobbsee_away> dmdm: ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:33] <frank23> did anyone ever have the problem where all videos are replaced by a blue screen?
[09:33] <Somefilename> frank23, No.
[09:33] <frank23> This happens very rarely for me and a X server restart fixesit
[09:34] <Somefilename> frank23, Ever tried an X server upgrade.
[09:34] <frank23> I just stick with breezy
[09:35] <frank23> It happened only once in the last month or so so its not a big problem. It's just annoying
[09:35] <Somefilename> frank23, Hmmm, what do you mean you stick with Breezy? An X server upgrade won't do your Breezy any harm.
[09:35] <Somefilename> frank23, Google the for upgrade sources.
[09:35] <dmdm> xgl
[09:35] <dmdm> .xgl
[09:35] <frank23> I meant with what is in the breezy repositories
[09:36] <dmdm> .help xgl
[09:36] <dmdm> !xgl
[09:36] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:36] <Somefilename> frank23, Hmmm, I was talking about compiling a new X server... :-?
[09:36] <frank23> Yeah I know
[09:37] <Somefilename> frank23, So you don't need any repsitories.
[09:37] <frank23> but the me breaking stuff possible doesnt seem so minimal
[09:37] <Somefilename> frank23, Breaking stuff?
[09:38] <frank23> screwing up my system
[09:38] <Mrono> heh
[09:38] <Mrono> so am i
[09:38] <frank23> I mean X is not exactly a trivial program
[09:38] <Somefilename> frank23, Oh yeah, I've seen a lot of people like you, I like to call them uneducated Linux users.
[09:39] <Mrono> yep
[09:41] <frank23> I'm not totally clueless. But for some things I like to stay with the packages tested by many ubuntu users.
[09:41] <Somefilename> frank23, You need some experience dude, and I'm not talking about using Kubuntu.
[09:41] <Mrono> shall i call him a whore?
[09:41] <frank23> What do you mean?
[09:43] <Mrono> she'll get you experience
[09:44] <Somefilename> Hmmm, from all these people, no OPs, and a couple of people talking.
[09:44] <Mrono> yep
[09:45] <seeker> test
[09:46] <seeker> two monk and a nun walk into a kubuntu chatroom...
[09:46] <Mrono> lol
[09:46] <Mrono> ow
[09:46] <Somefilename> Pretty odd, so who runs the channel anyways.
[09:47] <Mrono> not sure
[09:47] <Mrono> they aren't opped
[09:47] <Hobbsee_away> Somefilename: call !kops when you need it
[09:47] <Somefilename> So, who is responsible for banning and kicking?
[09:47] <Somefilename> !kops
[09:47] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fooishbar, haggai, amu, uniq, Mez, seth_k, nikkia, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek
[09:47] <Somefilename> Oh.
[09:47] <frank23> Riddell is in charge of kubuntu. I;m not sure who the ops are
[09:47] <Mrono> thought so
[09:47] <Mrono> Hobbsee
[09:47] <Hobbsee_away> Mrono: must you, really?
[09:48] <Mrono> always
[09:48] <Hobbsee_away> be more responsible, otherwise i *will* kick and/or ban you
[09:48] <Mrono> what?
[09:48] <Mrono> what did I do!
[09:48] <Somefilename> Damn, I have to go to school.
[09:48] <Hentai^XP> Tech.salvager
[09:48] <Mrono> oh oh
[09:49] <Hobbsee_away> !coc
[09:49] <ubotu> I guess coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:49] <Mrono> yeah yeah
[09:49] <Mrono> ok
[09:49] <Mrono> i'll be good
[09:49] <Somefilename> Laters, gotta go to school!
[09:49] <Hobbsee_away> good
[09:49] <Hobbsee_away> ops dont keep their ops on - so you never know who is around and who isnt - it's a good system
[09:49] <Hobbsee_away> but they're only one command away
[09:50] <Mrono> yep
[09:51] <Mrono> !.jar
[09:51] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono
[09:52] <Mrono> !jar
[09:52] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono
[09:52] <Mrono> hmm
[09:52] <Mrono> how do I install .jar
[09:52] <Mrono> acually
[09:52] <Mrono> i gtg
[09:52] <Mrono> cya
[09:52] <yello> cya
[09:57] <_tim> hey has anyone tried making movies on kubuntu here>
[09:57] <_tim> *?
[10:09] <MetaMorfoziS> Mrono: the yar not needed to install, it's only need to run
[10:10] <MetaMorfoziS> you can this: java -jar <file>
[10:10] <MetaMorfoziS> iirc
[10:10] <Tonio__> hi
[10:11] <visik7> http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/windows-vistas-worst-performer-windows-vista-156415.php <-- buaahahahahha
[10:14] <Tonio_> visik7: may I recall you the buglist of all gnome or kde beta versions ?
[10:14] <Tonio_> there are enough trolls on the net, we don't need them here...
[10:15] <visik7> I don't post it to troll, it's just funny
[10:16] <visik7> nevermind
[10:17] <Steil> Is amarok 1.4 beta1 package built with the apple ipod plugin?
[10:18] <mc_gusto> hey folks, does anyone know if there's a way to make the subtitles in VLC display outside the video image?
[10:44] <darth_chatri> setxkbmap is giving an error "Error loading new keyboard description"
[10:45] <darth_chatri> this is for any layout name I give
[10:51] <_admin> Hello there mates.
[11:14] <DrJoene> Hi all! When i'm locking my KDE(3.4.3) session, and trying to unlock, it is not accepting the password that is set for that current user. I have to kill the process /usr/bin/kdesktop_lock to get back. Does someone now how to fix this, or what is happening?
[11:19] <tijn> hey
[11:19] <DrJoene> ej
[11:26] <bdmp> I just put a cd in and a window poped up with all the .wav files, but there are other folders for FLAC MP3 and Ogg Vorbis with files of thoes types in side. This is a commercial cd so I am sure that these folders are not on the cd. Is Kubuntu doing this? what is going on?
[11:28] <Riddell> bdmp: it's a feature of KDE, the files are not really there but if you copy them to your hard disk they will be created
[11:28] <bdmp> woohoo!
[11:29] <bdmp> that is awsomeQ
[11:29] <bdmp> !
[11:29] <ubotu> bdmp: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:29] <Tm_T> :p
[11:29] <bdmp> ha
[11:29] <bdmp> stupid bot
[11:29] <bdmp> thanks riddell
[11:31] <bdmp> It seems to be copying them at a really slow speed
[11:31] <bdmp> it might just be my comp
[11:51] <_b> ive got some opera issues here, it runs but at startup it wines about some libs need re-linking how do i do that ?
[11:58] <kowal> check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[12:06] <_b> http://www.opera.com/support/search/supsearch.dml?index=346
[12:07] <_b> i think its solved
[12:07] <MaterMaravillae> guys, do you know of any program to change an .ac3 to mp3?
[01:16] <edulix> hello!
[01:17] <edulix> I have installed w32codecs
[01:17] <edulix> totem can play videos and also lets me listen to mp3s
[01:17] <edulix> but xine doesn't
[01:17] <edulix> and amarok either
[01:17] <edulix> what could be the problem?
[01:19] <visik7> for xine apt-get install libmad0
[01:20] <visik7> for amarok u need to select xine engine or gstreamer but if u use gstreamer u need to install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:20] <visik7> (or some name like that)
[01:22] <edulix> but I want to use the xine engine in amarok
[01:23] <edulix> (because I've got deps problems with gstreamer one and because it has always worked better to me)
[01:23] <edulix> and I have libmad0 already installed
[02:05] <samoura> hello i have a Kubuntu 6.04 "Dapper Drake" - Alpha i386 and how do i open it ;(
[02:05] <samoura> hello i have a Kubuntu 6.04 "Dapper Drake" - Alpha i386 and how do i open it ;( i have tryed to reboot nothing happins
[02:06] <Tonio_> samoura: is it an iso file you downloaded ?
[02:07] <samoura> i don think so but it is 643 mb the size and i burned on a cd and traying if i can run it ;(
[02:08] <Tonio_> samoura: you mustn't burn the file
[02:08] <Tonio_> but burn it as an iso image
[02:08] <Tonio_> to get a bootable cd
[02:08] <Tonio_> anyway, I would suggest you not to test dapper actually
[02:09] <Tonio_> is it not stable
[02:09] <Tonio_> and my feeling is that if you don't know what is an iso, you shouldn't test dapper until official release
[02:09] <Tonio_> cause you might meet many problems whose resolution is quite complicated
[02:09] <samoura> :P i know what is iso :P
[02:10] <Tonio_> samoura: so what's the problem ,
[02:10] <Tonio_> ?
[02:10] <Tonio_> sorry but because of your explanation I though you just burned the file directly....
[02:10] <Tonio_> sorry if I missunderstood :)
[02:11] <samoura> yess i did :;/
[02:11] <samoura> :(
[02:11] <jlb> bonjour
[02:13] <Tonio_> samoura: so do you really know how to burn an iso ? :) ^^
[02:15] <samoura> yess i know but the name of this fail is  Kubuntu 6.04 "Dapper Drake" - Alpha i386 not  Kubuntu 6.04 "Dapper Drake" - Alpha.iso
[02:17] <finite9> hi! I have been trying to install ATI binary driver on breezy amd64 8.21.7 and now 8.22.5 but its been refusing to work (keep seeing mesa driver with fglrxinfo), but after looking at thinkwiki.org they had some good tips for fglrx issues and one was to check that the soft links havent disappeared in /lib/X11R6/modules: there should be 2 links for libGL.so but my links are dead and I cannot find this file on my system!  There is a file in 
[02:19] <samoura> To run a program using sudo that normally is run as the user, such as gedit, go to Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal ?             does it mean Kmenu/system/terminal program knosole?
[02:20] <samoura> help me please
[02:26] <_mindspin> yes
[02:26] <_revelation> hi
[02:26] <_mindspin> kdesu program
[02:26] <_revelation> I have a problem
[02:27] <_revelation> I have installed the kubuntu distro and now want to change my network setting, but after I have input my password nothing happens - the controls are still grayed out
[02:27] <Kaiser_At_Hut> congrats robotgeek_away and hobbsee :)
[02:29] <_revelation> no suggestions?
[02:29] <_mindspin> kdesu kcontrol
[02:29] <_mindspin> kdsu kcontrol
[02:29] <_mindspin> should open it
[02:29] <Ilokaasu> _revelation same here
[02:30] <Ilokaasu> i always go root cause those buttons wont work
[02:30] <_mindspin> which kubuntu ?
[02:30] <Ilokaasu> 510
[02:30] <Kaiser_At_Hut> there should be fixes in -updates i thought
[02:30] <kalenedrael> Learning how to do it from command line is an option too. :P
[02:30] <_mindspin> ist it the original kde installation from cd ie. 343 or so?
[02:31] <Ilokaasu> kalenedrael yeah, but i had linux like 2 days when i tried those :P
[02:31] <Ilokaasu> now i know bit more
[02:31] <_mindspin> updating to 3.5.1 may help
[02:31] <kalenedrael> Great, that's what learning is for.
[02:31] <_revelation> 3.4.3
[02:32] <kalenedrael> ifconfig
[02:32] <_revelation> kde, the problem is: without setting up the network I cannot update ;)
[02:32] <_mindspin> haha
[02:32] <kalenedrael> Do you use a static IP?
[02:32] <_mindspin> ok what about kdesu kcontrol?
[02:32] <_mindspin> should work
[02:33] <_revelation> yes it worked, thx
[02:33] <finite9> nobody know about ATI issues?
[02:33] <_revelation> and yes: I use a static IP
[02:34] <finite9> anyone have any good tips or links??
[02:34] <kalenedrael> Do you have a router or something?
[02:34] <kalenedrael> Or is it a direct connection?
[02:35] <_revelation> router
[02:35] <visik7> finite9: what issues ?
[02:35] <_revelation> with wlan
[02:35] <kalenedrael> Ok.
[02:35] <finite9> i posted above---the lon long post about ATI :)
[02:36] <kalenedrael> ifconfig <wireless interface name> <ip address> netmask <netmask>
[02:36] <finite9> should I paste it in again or can you see it?
[02:36] <_revelation> thx
[02:36] <finite9> about 1 or 2 screens up
[02:36] <_mindspin> !!pastebin
[02:36] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin
[02:36] <_mindspin> ! pastebin
[02:36] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:36] <kalenedrael> Like 'ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0'
[02:38] <_revelation> well now I can ping the router, but the connection to the internet is still not possible, because he cannot resolve the names
[02:38] <kalenedrael> Right, route add default gw <router ip>
[02:38] <_revelation> althoug I have entered my router as the DNS server....
[02:39] <_mindspin> can you ping any public ips?
[02:39] <kalenedrael> Try pinging 4.2.2.2
[02:39] <_revelation> I'll try, mom
[02:39] <_revelation> no, it says "network unreachable"
[02:39] <kalenedrael> Ok, 'route add default gw <router ip>'
[02:39] <_mindspin> then it has nothing to do with dns
[02:40] <_mindspin> sudo route add....
[02:41] <kalenedrael> Yeah, sudo if you're not root.
[02:41] <_mindspin> thou shall not be root un kubuntu..... ;-)
[02:41] <kalenedrael> :P
[02:41] <_revelation> I'm logged in as a normal user ;)
[02:41] <finite9> visik7:  hi! I have been trying to install ATI binary driver on breezy amd64 8.21.7 and now 8.22.5 but its been refusing to work (keep seeing mesa driver with fglrxinfo), but after looking at thinkwiki.org they had some good tips for fglrx issues and one was to check that the soft links havent disappeared in /lib/X11R6/modules: there should be 2 links for libGL.so but my links are dead and I cannot find this file on my system!  There is a
[02:42] <kalenedrael> You can 'sudo su' which will make you root.
[02:42] <kalenedrael> If libGL.so is gone, you have some problems.
[02:44] <finite9> can i not copy it in from original CD or something???
[02:45] <_revelation> thx a lot - works now :)
[02:45] <finite9> and the thing is that there should be a replacement from ati, which is why they disappeared in the first place, so really I want the ATI version right?
[02:46] <tijn> DrJoene : Hey lets smoke!
[02:47] <DrJoene> tijn: ok :)
[02:47] <tijn> gimme some paper, iam out :D
[02:55] <Sttutter> hey, i'm trying to edit my menu configuration and its not making any changes
[02:56] <Sttutter> the menu configuration that is showing in smeg is not what is on my desktop :P
[03:11] <_wicked> hi there! i was woundering where may i find a guide or something to install my nvidia driver over kubuntu
[03:11] <nlindblad> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:11] <nlindblad> but there's more, hang on, I'll find the guide
[03:12] <_wicked> :) i guess i should config x than
[03:12] <nlindblad> yeah
[03:12] <nlindblad> just swap 'nv' to 'nvidia' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:12] <knubbe> my tv-out is black & white. anyone who knows why? I use S-Video + PAL
[03:12] <edulix> hello !
[03:13] <_wicked> ok thx how may i edit xorg.conf.. is there any command line to open it in a text editor or something
[03:13] <nlindblad> _wicked: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:14] <edulix> I've installed everything related to mp3 etc (libmad0, w32plugins, ..) but I haven't been able to listen to mp3 in kde apps
[03:15] <edulix> the main problem to me is that I cannot listen to mp3 nor watch divx videos in xine
[03:16] <_wicked> huho more complicated then i though i only get x11/fonts there
[03:16] <nlindblad> edulix: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[03:16] <nlindblad> edulix: I think that applies to Kubuntu aswell
[03:17] <Jarthoma> hello.
[03:17] <nlindblad> hi Jarthoma
[03:17] <edulix> nlinbland: let me see
[03:18] <edulix> kaboom, amarok exploded lol
[03:22] <edulix> hey now amarok wokrs, thanks you :)
[03:22] <_wicked> ?
[03:22] <pussfeller> thanks for that link, now i know why musicbranz dont ever work :)
[03:23] <edulix> works
[03:47] <bipolar> anyone having a problem with kcontrol > peripherals > display in dapper?
[03:48] <bipolar> on a console I get a python traceback when I try to open it.
[03:48] <Jolt> hey there... anyone here?
[03:49] <_Sime> bipolar: there are a few known bugs in displayconfig right now. They will be fixed in dapper next week.
[03:49] <bipolar> ok.
[03:50] <bipolar> here's another one. I'm trying to do dual-head (xinerama) with ATI drivers. does anybody have this working so I can study there xorg.conf file?
[03:51] <edulix> hi back :)
[03:52] <Jolt> I'm having problems with connecting external devices ( USB memory sticks, USB Wireless Dongle ) to a machine recently installed with Kubuntu 5.10. When Memory stick is connected, an error "unable to find media/:sda1" occurs. Any help or explanation for this would be greatly appreciated
[03:52] <bipolar> I first tried with the open radeon driver (I have a 9000 in a laptop) but could only get a desktop clone. fought for 4 hours on that.
[03:52] <bipolar> then I started on the fglrx driver. got xinerama working but the display is hopelessly corupted.
[03:53] <bipolar> been working on this since last night. :\
[03:53] <bipolar> dual, independant displays works. but thats nearly useless.
[03:56] <Jolt> Sorry but this seems to be a very simple problem, can anyone help?
[03:59] <bipolar> Jolt, check and see if anything is mouted when the stick in inserted.
[04:00] <Jolt> bipolar, how?
[04:01] <bipolar> open a console and run 'mount'
[04:01] <bipolar> see if it says anything about sda1 being mounted
[04:03] <Jolt> bipolar, I'm not familiar with Linux.... how do you mean Open a Console?
[04:04] <hatake_kakashi> Alt+F2 and type in konsole
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> when you get the console prompt or konsole, type in mount| grep sda1
[04:06] <hatake_kakashi> I assume if properly detected and mounted it would say something along the lines of: /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 type vfat ...
[04:06] <Jolt> ok, opened console, entered mount, "type vfat" comes up beside sda1
[04:07] <hatake_kakashi> what does it say on the 2nd column?
[04:07] <hatake_kakashi> /media/sda1?
[04:07] <bipolar> Jolt, what version of kubuntu are you running?
[04:07] <Jolt> 2nd column?
[04:07] <Jolt> 5.10
[04:07] <bipolar> k
[04:07] <hatake_kakashi> /dev/sda2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8) <--- I presume yours would look somewhat similar to this
[04:08] <hatake_kakashi> yours would probably be /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1
[04:08] <hatake_kakashi> if its /media/sda1, type the words '/media/sda1' into the address bar of konqueror (without quotes) and hit enter
[04:09] <hatake_kakashi> otherwise if its mounted in other ways or have different destination mount point, replace /media/sda1 with the appropriate one
[04:09] <_Sime> bipolar: try dualhead AIT next week with displayconfig in system settings. :) it should work then.
[04:09] <Jolt> will do
[04:09] <bipolar> _Sime, how should the ati driver be set up? bigdesktop?
[04:10] <dOb> why do pppoeconf processes keep spawning when I run it once without a console?
[04:11] <Jolt> typing the words '/media/sda1' into the address bar worked :)
[04:11] <Jolt> Why does it not recognise it then?
[04:12] <Jolt> Or should I say, why can't it open it when it's plugged in first
[04:12] <hatake_kakashi> "unable to find media/:sda1" <---- that address inside the address bar does not seem correct
[04:12] <hatake_kakashi> anything before the : makes konqueror thinks of it as a protocol
[04:13] <hatake_kakashi> eg. smb:/, http:/, ftp:/
[04:13] <Jolt> is there a way to get rid of it?
[04:13] <hatake_kakashi> not that I know of
[04:14] <Jolt> Also I have a Wireless USB dongle, with it's Driver CD
[04:14] <Jolt> But the drivers are for Windows only
[04:14] <hatake_kakashi> you meant USB wifi?
[04:14] <hatake_kakashi> you could probably get them to work via ndiswrapper
[04:15] <Jolt> I have ndiswrapper... but am unsure what to do with it
[04:15] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[04:15] <hatake_kakashi> !ndiswrapper
[04:15] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:15] <hatake_kakashi> that may help
[04:15] <hatake_kakashi> if not, then I don't know much, I don't use wifi so..
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> hopefully that should resolve some of your issues, if not, try posting your query on the ubuntuforum
[04:17] <Jolt> Thank you very much for your help
[04:17] <Jolt> much appreciated
[04:26] <motyR> Hi, where is the bubuntu bug reports?
[04:27] <jpatrick> !malone
[04:27] <jpatrick> motyR: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs ?
[04:27] <sorush20> guys how do I get kget not to overwrite files and rename them?
[04:28] <motyR> jpatrick: 10x:)
[04:29] <_Sime> bipolar: I've spent months/years working on a tool to setup this up for you and everyone automatically. Don't take offence if I don't want to spend time to help you set this up manually. ;-)
[04:32] <edulix> hi !
[04:32] <edulix> I'm trying to install k3b but it says that it depends in some libs it can't install. I'm using dapper
[04:33] <edulix> for example it says it needs  kdelibs4c2 but it's not available
[04:33] <edulix> but kdelibs4c2a is available
[04:33] <edulix> the same happens with libmusicbrainz4c2 and libmusicbrainz4c2a
[04:33] <edulix> I don't understand that very well
[04:34] <mcscruff> lo, has anyone got a link to Easy Kubuntu?
[04:35] <edulix> googling, I get this http://olwin.free.fr/
[04:36] <pm> happy doughnut everyone!!!!!
[04:42] <sorush20> any other download manager that is better than kget?
[04:42] <ccc_> i use wget. what's wrong with kget?
[04:48] <lusepuster> one quick question: Am I wrong or hasn't amarok been ported to gstreamer 0.10 yet? It seems like I cant' use it as my amarok engine in dapper...
[04:48] <jpatrick> lusepuster: no it hasn't
[04:48] <jpatrick> lusepuster: which is why we pulled gst out of it
[04:49] <lusepuster> jpatrick: permanently or...?
[04:49] <jpatrick>  /tmp
[04:49] <lusepuster> jpatrick: kewl, thx
[04:51] <snoow> Hello, where can I make my default route permanent? Or should I place a custom script in /etc/init.rd? Connection is all through LAN, no modem.
[04:51] <snoow> s/init.rd/init.d/
[04:52] <snoow> Also, the "up" thing in /etc/network/interfaces did nothing at all :-S
[04:56] <poningru> hey guys how does one change the default sound sink in kubuntu?
[04:57] <_mindspin> did you already set it in network konfiguration?
[04:57] <_mindspin> snoow:did you already set it in network konfiguration?
[04:58] <snoow> _mindspin: in network configuration under "routing" I can only set the default gateway
[04:59] <_mindspin> you wanna add further routes?
[04:59] <snoow> _mindspin: to make it work I have to (at the moment) manually enter the route for the gateway via eth0 and the default route via the gateway (and eth0).
[05:00] <_mindspin> "<qoute>"snoow:Hello, where can I make my default route permanent?"</qoute>"
[05:00] <snoow> if I do networkiung restart I only get one route to my DNS-entry
[05:01] <_mindspin> why is the route to gateway and default gateway different in your environment?
[05:01] <snoow> _mindspin: no, it
[05:01] <_mindspin> default gateway is for all targets outside the internal network
[05:01] <snoow> _mindspin: ..it's only one gateway
[05:01] <_mindspin> i.e. the internet
[05:02] <snoow> _mindspin: but then it should show up in route -n, right?
[05:02] <_mindspin> yup
[05:02] <_mindspin> what shows up in route -n ?
[05:02] <snoow> _mindspin: which it doesn't... but I'll check again to be sure ;-) bbiam
[05:02] <dOb> when I start adept from the K menu, it stays in the task bar while it's loading (for longer than usual) and the disappers but the process still exists. what's with that?
[05:03] <Jolt> [Q]  How do you open the "Command Line" in Kubntu?
[05:03] <dOb> also, it works fine when I start it from a console
[05:03] <jpatrick> Jolt: K-Menu -> System -> Konsole
[05:04] <Jolt> ok, but how do I get to a specific folder to make this work
[05:04] <Jolt> sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
[05:05] <jpatrick> cd foldername
[05:05] <jpatrick> why not do 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils' ?
[05:08] <Jolt> don't you need an internet conn?
[05:09] <bipolar> _Sime, I understand.. :)
[05:10] <jpatrick> Jolt: ah right
[05:18] <snoow> _mindspin: it seems that it was systemsettings fault. When I rebooted it would have not saved my default gateway. Now I reentered it as root and am trying another reboot...
[05:19] <_mindspin> reboot is not necessary
[05:19] <kokurya-kai> too late ;)
[05:23] <snoow> _mindspin: yep, now it works :-) This sure will teach me to "xhost +local:;sudo systemsettings" ;-)
[05:23] <snoow> _mindspin: thanks for your help!
[05:24] <_mindspin> yw
[05:24] <jpatrick> snoow: there was no need to reboot
[05:24] <bipolar> god... I am so close
[05:24] <bipolar> now I've got a cut off main screen. the desktop only fills the left hand side about an inch
[05:25] <bipolar> and only after I login!
[05:25] <bipolar> kde must be trying to set the desktop up to some old settings.
[05:25] <snoow> jpatrick: yep, kind of... but I wanted to make sure nothing I commanded was doing any side-effects ;-)
[05:25] <jpatrick> :-)
[05:26] <bipolar> can anyone tell me where these desktop geomitry settings are stored so I can wipe them out without removing my entire ~/.kde/Share/config directory?
[05:26] <knubbe> is there any good VoIP program (like ekiga) in the repository?
[05:29] <bipolar> I know what it's doing. the main screen is 1400x1050. the 2nd one is 1280x1024. it's setting the desktop to 1400x1050, over both monitors. so the 2nd monitor, to the left, is full, plus about 1.5 inches on the main screen. 1400x* - 1280x* = 120px = about an inch. that remainder is on my laptop screen :P
[05:29] <motyR> Hi, in which package i can find the the kubuntu install package service menu?
[05:41] <bipolar> my desktop goes fubar as soon as I click on login in kdm.
[05:41] <bipolar> odd
[05:41] <atidem> hello folks
[05:42] <atidem> I have a question, hope that someone can help me
[05:42] <atidem> how to import a class datagram mades in umbrello in an open document file?
[05:43] <atidem> copy&paste doesnt work
[05:43] <atidem> :-(
[05:44] <atidem> I tried to save file (*.xmi) in a jpeg format
[05:44] <atidem> nobody can give me an indication?
[05:45] <bipolar> sorry, I have no experiance with what you are dealing with
[05:46] <jpatrick> atidem: imagemagik?
[05:46] <bipolar> W00T!
[05:46] <bipolar> I got it!
[05:46] <bipolar> I used xrandr to set my desktop to the right size.
[05:46] <bipolar> stupid thing!
[05:46] <atidem> hmmm, I will test it jpatrick
[05:46] <atidem> thanks
[05:47] <jpatrick> man:/imagemagik
[05:47] <atidem> hehehe
[05:47] <atidem> I know
[05:48] <bipolar> finaly! I have a working dual head... it only took 2 friken days... ;P
[05:52] <ricky_ds> I have problems with setting up the sharing of folders. I'm doing everything through konqueror File manager, but the shared folders don't appear in the remote places / Samba menu on my box, neither on the WinXP computer.
[06:03] <mluser-work> Does anyone know of a repository where I can find mplayer?
[06:08] <Jolt> How do I set up a Wireless connection when I have the Dongle + Driver on Kubuntu?
[06:14] <_revelation> hi
[06:15] <_revelation> I've installed the xorg-fglrx package but even after rebooting my machine still uses the mesa driver. What can I do to change that?
[06:25] <Jolt> I'm a lil confused
[06:25] <Jolt> no make that very confused
[06:26] <jpatrick> ?
[06:27] <Jolt> I've been trying to connect to the internet through a wireless usb dongle
[06:27] <Jolt> and can't get it to work
[06:28] <bipolar> first, plug it in. then in a console type in 'dmesg | tail' and paste that in http://pastebin.org so we can all see whats going on. <Jolt
[06:29] <bipolar> Jolt, I'm sorry, there is probbly a much more newbe freindly way to do that, but i'm so used to doing things at the console... :\
[06:30] <bipolar> Jolt, make that pastebin.com
[06:31] <samoura> please i am new in linux how do i install nvidia driver}
[06:31] <farous> nividia
[06:31] <farous> !nividia
[06:31] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[06:31] <Jolt> bipolar, i'll give it a go
[06:31] <farous> !nvidia
[06:32] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:32] <simon_> for me the same
[06:32] <_revelation> I've installed the xorg-fglrx package but even after rebooting my machine still uses the mesa driver. What can I do to change that?
[06:32] <simon_> I have a nvidia 6610xl
[06:32] <farous> _revelation: did you follow the ati howto
[06:32] <bipolar> _revelation, did you set Xorg to use the ati driver?
[06:32] <_revelation> farous: which howto?
[06:32] <farous> !ati
[06:32] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[06:33] <_revelation> rhx
[06:33] <farous> ^    ^
[06:33] <farous> ur w:)
[06:41] <samoura> hello i cant write nothing in knosole allweys the freakin command not found or it says Password and than it doesn't let me write it help me please
[06:46] <Somefilename> samoura, Please be more descriptive if you want us to help you.
[06:49] <samoura> !nvidia
[06:49] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:50] <samoura> Select the System menu at the top of the screen.
[06:50] <samoura> Select Administration then Synaptic Package Manager.
[06:51] <Jolt> Here is the output after connecting the USB Wireless Dongle, and typing "dmesg | tail" into Console
[06:51] <samoura> there is no administration in my kmenu
[06:51] <Jolt> http://pastebin.com/568800
[06:51] <samoura> there is no administration in my kmenu
[06:51] <samoura> where do i download this administration please help
[06:52] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i enable mozilla-mplayer in firefox??
[06:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i installed it but about:plugins not list it
[06:54] <samoura> hello can i have window and linux}
[06:56] <farous> samoura: yap it is known as dual boot
[06:56] <farous> !window
[06:56] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[06:56] <farous> !windows
[06:56] <ubotu> windows is, like, totally, unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[06:57] <farous> !ntfs
[06:57] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:57] <farous> samoura follow ubotu link to the wiki pages
[06:58] <Jolt> anybody shed some light on this?
[06:58] <Jolt>  http://pastebin.com/568800
[07:01] <brendan_> jolt, what are you trying to get working?
[07:01] <samoura> hello what kernel headers in adept shude i install?
[07:03] <Jolt> brendan: an internet conn. using a wirless usb dongle
[07:03] <samoura> hello what kernel headers in adept shude i install?
[07:03] <samoura> Linux kernel headers on 386}
[07:03] <samoura> ?
[07:04] <samoura> i just installd kubuntu
[07:04] <brendan_> ah, k
[07:04] <samoura> tell me please
[07:04] <samoura> hello what kernel headers in adept shude i install?
[07:04] <Jolt> brendan: any ideas on how to get it working
[07:04] <trappist> samoura: linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:04] <brendan_> samoura, they should match your running kernel... probably 2.6.12-9
[07:05] <brendan_> um, not sure jolt
[07:05] <farous> samoura: if this is a fresh install i recommend you update all packages first
[07:05] <farous> so before anything run those commands
[07:05] <brendan_> I haven't done a usb based one, I've only really played with centrino wireless lately
[07:05] <farous> sudo apt-get update
[07:05] <brendan_> what model of usb dongle are you using?
[07:05] <farous> sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:06] <samoura> ha update}
[07:06] <samoura> ?
[07:06] <brendan_> at least under kubuntu
[07:06] <farous> samoura whatever iso you downloaded recieved it is most prob out of date
[07:07] <Jolt> brendan: Cnet Wireless-G
[07:07] <farous> samoura: so always recommend to update your packages after fresh install
[07:07] <brendan_> hmmm, k, I'll take a look
[07:07] <samoura> farous i go in kmenu&system&terminal program and i do sudo apt=get update
[07:07] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$  sudo apt-get update
[07:07] <samoura> Password:
[07:08] <farous> samoura: it is your login passwd
[07:08] <samoura> but i cant write ant thing <S
[07:08] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: did it work now
[07:08] <Jolt> password enties don't show up. Just type it and hit enter
[07:08] <farous> you can use the package management adept
[07:08] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[07:08] <MetaMorfoziS> but
[07:08] <brendan_> jolt, is that the linksys model?
[07:08] <MetaMorfoziS> @ #ubuntu
[07:09] <Somefilename> samoura, You said you just installed Kubuntu? Do you have an root password?
[07:09] <Jolt> brendan: how do you mean?
[07:09] <brendan_> well, I didn't think CNet made any hardware
[07:09] <brendan_> aren't they just a reviewer?
[07:09] <Jolt> different company I think
[07:09] <brendan_> ah, k
[07:09] <Jolt> I'll give you a pic if it's any use
[07:10] <farous> Somefilename: by default with ubuntu there is no root passwd
[07:10] <Jolt> Dongle = http://images.gfx.no/13/13588/filename_3.jpg
[07:10] <brendan_> k, I found the website
[07:10] <Somefilename> farous, Yeah, and you have to set it, and I asked him/she if he/she have his/shes root password set.
[07:11] <farous> Somefilename: you do not need to set it :) but if you choose so you can
[07:12] <_samoura> farous you ROCK
[07:12] <farous> _samoura: :)
[07:12] <Somefilename> faros, I'm not use to use sudo, maybe _samoura isn't too.
[07:13] <farous> Somefilename: it is just the ubuntu way:) take care though :)
[07:13] <Somefilename> I'm out too.
[07:13] <_samoura> farous okei it workd in terminal sudo apt-get update but it says after
[07:13] <_samoura> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:13] <_samoura> samoura@dhcpp
[07:13] <brendan_> jolt, that's a tough one
[07:14] <brendan_> you're probably right that you'll need to use ndiswrapper, since it doesn't seem to have a linux driver
[07:14] <brendan_> I might look up the serial number, and see if you can figure out what the chipset is, since they're *probably* using a generic chipset
[07:14] <Jolt> brendan: I followed the Ndiswrapper wiki
[07:14] <Jolt> and didn't really get anywhere with it
[07:14] <brendan_> yeah, I haven't used ndiswrapper since the native centrino drivers came out
[07:15] <Jolt> anyway i can help get the S/N for you?
[07:18] <samoura> hello i am useing kernel
[07:18] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ uname -r
[07:18] <samoura> 2.6.12-10-386
[07:18] <samoura> can i use amd ?
[07:19] <samoura> is it that better?
[07:19] <simon_> how can I use my gmail adress to chat
[07:20] <simon_> i have opened kopete and typed in my existing gmail adress
[07:20] <brendan_> well, I think it's the cwd-854, right?
[07:21] <samoura> hello i am useing kernel
[07:21] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ uname -r
[07:21] <samoura> 2.6.12-10-386
[07:21] <brendan_> um, I'm looking around, and I don't see any native drivers, so I'm not sure
[07:21] <samoura> can i use amd kernel}
[07:21] <samoura> ?
[07:22] <brendan_> jolt, I haven't really played with ndiswrapper lately, sorry if I'm not too much help
[07:22] <Jolt> hmmmmm... any suggestions on another dongle to get?
[07:22] <Jolt> as in a different make/model
[07:23] <brendan_> hmmm
[07:23] <brendan_> well, I guess the question is whether you're using a laptop or a desktop
[07:23] <Jolt> desktop
[07:24] <brendan_> hmmm
[07:25] <brendan_> well, I mean, obvioulsy it'd be good to get the one you're using working
[07:25] <brendan_> I haven't used usb wifi dongles much, so I'm not sure what works well, but usually linuxdevices.com has a pretty good list of hardware that has native drivers
[07:27] <brendan_> usually things like linksys are best, since you get the most of them, brand names, etc.
[07:27] <brendan_> but I'd check out whether a model will work before you buy a second one
[07:27] <Jolt> thanks....I'l keep trying at this one for the moment....
[07:27] <brendan_> k
[07:27] <Jolt> see if I can get any more stressed, and lose more hair ;)
[07:27] <brendan_> yeah, if you can get ndiswrapper working, it's supposed to work well... but my experiences with it were always that it was a bit... inconsistent
[07:28] <Jolt> I just can't get my head around what it's actually doing
[07:28] <brendan_> lol, yeah, that's the thing, eh?  the other thing you can try is to unload the ndiswrapper software, and then watch the kernel messages to see if you get a more specific chipset number
[07:28] <samoura> hey can i play playstation games on linux}
[07:28] <samoura> ?
[07:28] <samoura> my frien can
[07:29] <samoura> friend
[07:29] <brendan_> something like      sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[07:29] <brendan_> and then plug it in
[07:29] <brendan_> and if the ndiswrapper driver misses it, you might get more info about the chipset
[07:30] <samoura> Hello how do i uninstall nvidia-glx ? please tell me
[07:30] <samoura> Hello how do i uninstall nvidia-glx ? please tell me
[07:30] <MetaMorfoziS> !nvidia
[07:30] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:31] <samoura> tell me on the chat room <S
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> read
[07:31] <MetaMorfoziS> on the site
[07:31] <samoura> i am on this said trying to instaqll nvidia card
[07:31] <samoura> and thay say uninstall nvidia-glx
[07:33] <brendan_> jolt: new idea, try a program called "usbview"
[07:33] <brendan_> basically it shows you what's plugged into the bus
[07:33] <robotgeek> lsusb doesn't work?
[07:33] <brendan_> err, yeah, that'd probably work too
[07:34] <brendan_> you'd want to use lsusb -v for verbose output, if you're gonna use that
[07:34] <brendan_> and that's probably already installed
[07:35] <Jolt> so just connect the dongle and type "lsusb -v" into console
[07:35] <Jolt> ?
[07:36] <brendan_> yeah, that may give you some more information about the manufacturer of the actual chipset
[07:36] <Jolt> ok will try that
[07:36] <Jolt> brb
[07:36] <brendan_> and it could turn out that it's the same chipset as a major manufacturer or something like that
[07:36] <Jolt> here's hoping
[07:40] <Jolt> sry brendan, what was that command again?
[07:40] <brendan_> lsusb -v will give you an output on the console
[07:41] <brendan_> or if you'd rather, there's an X based program called usbview that's a bit more user friendly
[07:41] <brendan_> similar output
[07:41] <Jolt> anything in particular i shud look for? Or any other commands I shud try after?
[07:41] <brendan_> well, I'd try it with and without the dongle
[07:41] <brendan_> basically you're looking for any kind of string describing the chipset/hardware manufacturer/etc.
[07:42] <brendan_> because you can google that and see if there's anything more common that shares a chipset with it
[07:42] <brendan_> and then you might find a linux driver for that
[07:42] <Jolt> ok, can I post it on Pastebin, and show you in say 5mins?
[07:42] <brendan_> sure, I'll be around
[07:43] <Mrono> hey
[07:43] <Jolt> thanks, Il be back asap
[07:43] <Mrono> i'm trying to ./configure mplayer
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> my firefox start and crash with these: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9202
[07:43] <Mrono> i get this message
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[07:43] <Mrono> *** Please downgrade/upgrade C compiler to version gcc-2.95.x or gcc-3.x! ***
[07:44] <brendan_> Mrono, you probably have gcc 4 installed
[07:45] <brendan_> if you look in apt (adept, synaptic, etc.) you should see other versions
[07:45] <brendan_> just search for gcc
[07:45] <Mrono> ok
[07:45] <brendan_> they can be installed alongside each other
[07:45] <Mrono> anyone ever used 3ddesktop
[07:46] <brendan_> yeah, I always liked it, but its screen capture thing seems to slow down my system, so I haven't used it lately
[07:46] <brendan_> it takes a screenshot every 2-3 seconds
[07:46] <Mrono> how do you run it in KDE
[07:47] <Mrono> i put in a command 3ddesk --kde3
[07:47] <Mrono> like it says on the site
[07:47] <Mrono> and nothing happens
[07:47] <brendan_> usually the first time you run it, it starts 3ddeskd, which just sits in the background and takes screenshots to update the 3d cube
[07:48] <brendan_> if you run it again, it may work
[07:48] <brendan_> or you may need to start 3ddeskd first
[07:48] <Mrono> nada
[07:49] <Mrono> the screen just flashes
[07:49] <brendan_> k
[07:49] <brendan_> if you say type 3ddeskd in a console window, does it stay running?
[07:50] <Mrono> *** Please downgrade/upgrade C compiler to version gcc-2.95.x or gcc-3.x! ***
[07:50] <Mrono> damn
[07:50] <Mrono> sorry
[07:50] <Mrono> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[07:50] <brendan_> ah
[07:50] <brendan_> ok, I didn't realize it needed dri
[07:50] <Mrono> I have an ait radon 9000
[07:51] <brendan_> ok, go to the console and type "glxinfo | grep direct"
[07:51] <brendan_> and see if it says yes or know
[07:51] <brendan_> *no
[07:51] <mo0osah> how do i get sound monitor in the taskbar
[07:52] <Mrono> says no
[07:52] <holotone> Can someone tell me why anytime there's a "special" character (outside of A-Z, 0-9), it displays as a square in Konquerer and won't let me pull the file off of a DVD I burned in Windows? If the file doesn't have the square (which represents the special character) it imports fine
[07:52] <holotone> What's the deal?
[07:53] <brendan_> ok, Mrono, basically dri is "direct rendering infrastructure"
[07:53] <Mrono> yeha
[07:54] <Mrono> I read about it last night
[07:54] <brendan_> it uses your 3d card to help render in hardware, and you don't have it running
[07:54] <Mrono> I see
[07:54] <Mrono> I also need to check if I got my card installed properly
[07:54] <brendan_> um, I've set it up before on other distros, but when I did kubuntu on my thinkpad, it seems to have detected it on its own
[07:54] <holotone> Anyone?
[07:55] <Mrono> !ati
[07:55] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:55] <holotone> I can't imagine this is an unheard of problem...
[07:55] <holotone> And it's REALLY getting in the way of importing my music off of DVD discs that I burned in Windows
[07:55] <Mrono> holotone, i've nenever heard of it but i'm a noob
[07:55] <brendan_> holotone, I'd suspect it's a character set thing
[07:55] <holotone> Yeah, I'd imagine
[07:55] <holotone> how do I fix it?
[07:56] <holotone> using konquerer
[07:56] <holotone> I don't want to have to boot into windows to do something as simple as pull files off of a DVD
[07:56] <brendan_> hmmm
[07:57] <Mrono> arg
[07:57] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:57] <Mrono> more PHP errors
[07:57] <brendan_> well, by default, kubuntu uses utf-8, afaik
[07:57] <Mrono> PGP*
[07:58] <brendan_> you probably need to install the codepage that windows uses, which is iso-8591 or something like that
[07:58] <holotone> which is what windows uses, right?
[07:58] <holotone> I don't see why these files, which I burnt in Windows, and Windows can read just fine, can't be read by Kubuntu
[07:59] <Mrono> why do I have multiple boot options for ubuntu in my bootloader
[07:59] <brendan_> the other thing you might try is going to the view menu in konqueror, and setting the encoding to iso-8591, which I believe is western european
[07:59] <Mrono> a plain kubuntu
[07:59] <brendan_> or just double check that it's set to autodetect
[07:59] <Mrono> kubuntu 386
[07:59] <Mrono> and kubuntu 686
[07:59] <holotone> where's the view menu?
[07:59] <Mrono> with the respective safemodes
[08:00] <brendan_> hmmm, Mrono, it sounds like you have multiple kernel versions installed
[08:00] <Mrono> they showed up after I updated
[08:00] <holotone> I mean, I know where the view dropdown is, but there's no option for character encoding
[08:00] <brendan_> holotone, at the top of the window, there should be |Location|Edit|View|...
[08:00] <brendan_> ah
[08:00] <brendan_> I believe it says "Set Encoding"
[08:00] <brendan_> Mrono, yeah, it sounds like you're running multiple kernel versions
[08:01] <brendan_> what kind of processor do you have?
[08:01] <holotone> noppa
[08:01] <holotone> No set encoding there
[08:01] <yalu> I have a Q: why are there different distros (ubuntu and kubuntu) dor each desktop and is it possible to install them both in the same system (eg by adding packages from kubuntu to ubuntu)?
[08:01] <Jolt> brendan, here is the Pastebin
[08:01] <Jolt> http://pastebin.com/568918
[08:01] <brendan_> yalu: yes, basically kubuntu has kde installed by default, and ubuntu has gnome installed by default
[08:01] <brendan_> aside from some branding issues, they're the same otherwise, and you can install both on the same system
[08:02] <brendan_> jolt: k
[08:02] <holotone> where can I change the character encoding for konquerer?
[08:02] <holotone> It's not under View >
[08:02] <brendan_> oh, I'm running KDE 3.5.1, it may have moved around in the version change
[08:02] <brendan_> anybody else running 3.4 that might know where he can find it?
[08:03] <Mrono> um
[08:03] <Mrono> let me check
[08:03] <holotone> thanks for the help, btw, Brendan
[08:03] <brendan_> yep, no worries
[08:04] <Mrono> ah ha
[08:04] <Mrono> found it
[08:04] <Mrono> burried
[08:04] <Mrono> funny
[08:04] <brendan_> jolt, if you look in the output you got, you should see the device identifier near the top: 148f:2570
[08:04] <brendan_> if you put that into google, there are a bunch of postings on setting up the device, I think
[08:04] <holotone> where at?
[08:05] <holotone> mrono?
[08:05] <Mrono> holotone: command prompt, "kcontrol &", click on internet & network, web browser, fonts
[08:05] <Mrono> default encoding
[08:05] <holotone> awesome, thanks!
[08:05] <Mrono> np
[08:05] <Reko> Hi
[08:07] <brendan_> jolt, try: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List0to9AtoH under C, number 4
[08:07] <brendan_> cool, so the encoding thing is working now?
[08:07] <Reko> I'm trying to enable remote login with Cygwin (xwin). I also have putty at my disposal.. I've edited kdmrc to enable DMCP and put * in the kdm Xaccess file. Either it's not working or I'm not passing the right parameters to Xwin.exe...?
[08:07] <brendan_> jolt, it looks like you may need to remove the ehci usb module before plugging it in
[08:08] <brendan_> Reko, I've tried and failed a couple of times with XDMCP... if you need to login, it's worthwhile, but you might want to look at a VNC server; they'll work native on Windows as well
[08:09] <Reko> brendan; OK, but will VNC be multi-user? As in, it sends people to a login screen not whoevers currently logged on at console?
[08:09] <brendan_> Mrono, anyways, back to the DRI thing
[08:09] <brendan_> Reko, no, that's the problem, is that VNC is basically single user
[08:09] <Reko> dang!
[08:09] <brendan_> I kinda gave up on XDMCP with my debian server because VNC worked well for me
[08:09] <Reko> guess I'll give up on it then
[08:10] <brendan_> I know it's *possible* to get it working, and tehre are a few walkthroughs out there
[08:10] <brendan_> I just didn't have much luck with it
[08:10] <brendan_> but YMMV
[08:11] <holotone> thanks again, guys!
[08:11] <brendan_> depends on what you're using it for
[08:11] <brendan_> no worries, glad to help
[08:11] <brendan_> Reko, do you have multiple users, or do you just want it for remote administration, etc.?
[08:12] <brendan_> Mrono, for the glx thing, you said you're using a Radeon 9000?
[08:13] <brendan_> jolt, any luck with the driver issue? I kinda lost track of you in there
[08:13] <brendan_> lol, this is fun
[08:14] <brendan_> jolt, you also might try: http://sourceforge.net/projects/rt2400
[08:14] <brendan_> your chipset seems to be the RT2570, and this native driver might cover it
[08:17] <brendan_> actually, unless I'm mistaken, Linspire has a driver for your chipset at http://software.linspire.com/pool-src/r/rt2570-2.6.10/
[08:17] <Mrono> that was weird
[08:17] <brendan_> though I'd check it out a little bit more before you compile it into your kernel
[08:17] <Mrono> i was in the xorg configure
[08:17] <Mrono> and i tried to do monitor auto detection
[08:18] <Mrono> and my screen went blank
[08:18] <Mrono> had to do a hard reboot
[08:18] <brendan_> hmmm
[08:18] <Mrono> !ati
[08:18] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:18] <brendan_> did you say you're using a radeon 9000?
[08:18] <Mrono> yeah
[08:18] <brendan_> mobile, or desktop?
[08:18] <Mrono> mobile
[08:18] <brendan_> you can probably configure it manually, if you're comfortable with editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:19] <Mrono> i've run the auto config xorm multiple times
[08:19] <brendan_> I'm on a radeon 7500 mobile (which it detected as a 9000 with the same driver) so chances are I'm using the same configure as you need
[08:19] <Mrono> it just happened to crash that time
[08:19] <Mrono> hmm
[08:19] <Mrono> would this work
[08:19] <Mrono> sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:20] <brendan_> I haven't really used sed much, what exactly is it doing?
[08:20] <Mrono> setting the grapgics to fglrx
[08:21] <brendan_> ah
[08:21] <brendan_> well, I guess it might
[08:21] <brendan_> personally, I'd just edit it by hand
[08:21] <Mrono> it's on the site
[08:21] <brendan_> k
[08:21] <Mrono> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:21] <Mrono> well
[08:21] <Mrono> time for a reboot
[08:22] <brendan_> k, I've got a couple of ideas, so if you're still having trouble, let me know
[08:22] <Mrono> ok
[08:24] <D3M3N73D> hey anyone here?
[08:25] <brendan_> yep, there have been a few of us around
[08:25] <brendan_> what's up?
[08:25] <D3M3N73D> you a support crew?
[08:25] <brendan_> nope, just on reading week and bored
[08:25] <brendan_> but I can give it a shot
[08:26] <D3M3N73D> ahhhhh, ok, well, i am trying to learn linux, and a friend recomended kubuntu...
[08:26] <D3M3N73D> and i have no idea wtf im doing...
[08:26] <brendan_> yep, I've used a few different distributions and it's pretty nice
[08:26] <D3M3N73D> what all do you like?
[08:27] <brendan_> well, Kubuntu (and Ubuntu) are based on Debian, which I've used for a few years off and on
[08:27] <brendan_> it's got a good package management system (it's easy to install and uninstall software)
[08:27] <D3M3N73D> well, im reinstalling it right now on my other PC since i messed something up...
[08:28] <D3M3N73D> yeah, thats one thing i dont get with linux, i cant figure out how to install anything...
[08:28] <brendan_> other than the Debian like systems, I like Gentoo, but it's a lot of work to set up properly
[08:28] <D3M3N73D> i read the read me, and i try stuff, and nothing works
[08:28] <brendan_> ok, well for Kubuntu, it's got a lot of pre-set packages available
[08:28] <brendan_> there's a program called Adept, under the main menu/system
[08:28] <D3M3N73D> well, i go to adept
[08:28] <brendan_> that's probably the easiest way
[08:28] <D3M3N73D> and do full upgrade...
[08:29] <brendan_> ok
[08:29] <brendan_> first you want to tell it to download updates
[08:29] <brendan_> because that's how it knows what new packages are available
[08:29] <D3M3N73D> but when i tried to install runtime flash, i downloaded it, and i tried to install it, but nothing happend
[08:29] <Mrono> wth
[08:29] <Mrono> I could swear my resolution is smaller then before
[08:29] <Mrono> fonts are bigger
[08:29] <Mrono> icons don't line up right
[08:29] <D3M3N73D> brb really quick, next step to installation
[08:30] <Mrono> yet it says it's still 1440x900
[08:30] <brendan_> Mrono, could be, sometimes the configure scripts like to play with your default resolutions
[08:30] <Mrono> weird
[08:30] <D3M3N73D> how do you create a root user????? i was trying to login to root the terminal, and i couldnt...
[08:30] <Mrono> it idid this to me before
[08:30] <brendan_> try CTRL+SHIFT+Numpad[+] 
[08:30] <brendan_> err, rather, you're on a notebook, right?
[08:30] <Mrono> +
[08:30] <Mrono> yeah
[08:31] <Mrono> +
[08:31] <Mrono> with an ext keyboard
[08:31] <Mrono> oh font size change
[08:31] <brendan_> D3M3N73D, by default, Kubuntu and Ubuntu have the root password scrambled for security reasons
[08:31] <brendan_> you can either use a program called sudo
[08:31] <Mrono> brb restarting x server
[08:31] <brendan_> like: sudo adept
[08:31] <brendan_> and it'll ask you for your password
[08:32] <brendan_> or you can tell it to let you log in as root
[08:32] <Mrono> i just went in and set my password
[08:32] <brendan_> the reason they don't have that set by default is that if you use sudo, you type your own password, not the root password
[08:33] <brendan_> so there's some level of advantage with not having to type the root password, or even know the root password, especially on multi-user systems
[08:33] <brendan_> Mrono, did the key command increase your resolution any?
[08:33] <Mrono> no
[08:33] <Mrono> I only set one
[08:33] <brendan_> ah, k
[08:33] <Mrono> 1440x900
[08:33] <D3M3N73D> ok, so once i start adept, it will ask for a password? and when i put that in, it will change the r00t password to that?
[08:34] <brendan_> no, if you start adept from the menu, it'll ask you for *your* password, i.e. the one you put in for your user account
[08:34] <D3M3N73D> ok
[08:34] <brendan_> the user account you put in during the setup is flagged so that the system knows you're allowed to use sudo
[08:34] <Mrono> ah
[08:34] <Mrono> there we go
[08:34] <D3M3N73D> ok, so then, what do you do to make a root account?
[08:34] <brendan_> Mrono, any luck with the glxinfo command?
[08:34] <D3M3N73D> cuz i need to use that
[08:34] <brendan_> err, there's a howto on the kubuntu site, I believe
[08:34] <brendan_> jsut a sec
[08:35] <D3M3N73D> ok
[08:35] <bigfun> D3M3N73D: use sudo passwd
[08:35] <D3M3N73D> ill wait till your done with mrono
[08:35] <D3M3N73D> o, thank you
[08:35] <brendan_> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:35] <brendan_> I believe it's in that faq
[08:35] <bigfun> beacuse the root account exists everytime, just password is not set
[08:35] <Mrono> i do get this
[08:35] <Mrono> direct rendering: No
[08:36] <brendan_> yeah, exactly bigfun
[08:36] <brendan_> on a single user system, there's no major advantage
[08:37] <brendan_> on a multi-user system, you can edit the /etc/sudoers file to limit what people can do with sudo
[08:37] <Mrono> i'm done for now
[08:37] <brendan_> ok
[08:37] <brendan_> sorry it didn't work out Mrono
[08:37] <bigfun> hmm anyone knows how to change resolution range for my monitor?
[08:37] <Mrono> i'll work on it later
[08:38] <Mrono> yeah
[08:38] <D3M3N73D> so brendan_ what am i doing wrong when trying to install programs like runtime flash and teamspeak and stuff like that...
[08:38] <bigfun> because i have only 60 Hz to choose in system settings, and i know that my monitor could more
[08:38] <brendan_> D3M3N73D basically, you should be able to install them through adept, assuming it's in the list... sometimes it's not
[08:38] <D3M3N73D> if its not, how do i add it on the list?
[08:38] <Mrono> anyone use a 5 button mouse?
[08:39] <Mrono> er 4
[08:39] <brendan_> there's also a package for (k)ubuntu that will configure extra packages for you easily, but it can make things a bit unstable
[08:39] <Mrono> I have an old logitech cordless mouseman optical
[08:39] <Mrono> bigfun: try xorgconfig
[08:39] <brendan_> it's called automatix, but I'd suggest you may want to get the linux basics down before you use that, because it tends to install beta-quality software, and it can make your system a bit unstable
[08:39] <Mrono> in the command line
[08:40] <brendan_> brb in a bit all, gl with the graphics Mrono
[08:41] <Mrono> least of my worries reall
[08:41] <brendan_> ok
[08:41] <Mrono> yI just want to get my programs and mouse working
[08:41] <brendan_> basically you need to use the ati driver and tell it to load glx and dri modules
[08:41] <Mrono> yeah
[08:42] <bigfun> Mrono: AFAIR u told me yesterday that u have repos for amarok 1.4 for breezy, right?
[08:42] <brendan_> it's not too bad if you're used to editing xorg.conf, but it's a bit difficult to do with pre-set tools
[08:42] <Mrono> i mainly use xorgconfig
[08:42] <Mrono> bigfun: yeah
[08:42] <Mrono> not signed though
[08:43] <Mrono> got em from someone in here
[08:43] <bigfun> Mrono: could give me them somehow? :)
[08:43] <Mrono> yeah
[08:43] <brendan_> the other thing you need is a Section "DRI" ... Mode 0666 at the end
[08:43] <brendan_> that lets normal users use the direct rendering infrastructure (sets the device to be writable by all)
[08:44] <pm> happy doughnut everybody!
[08:45] <brendan_> you know Mrono, something I didn't even think of, but that might work:
[08:45] <brendan_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:46] <Mrono> hmmmm
[08:46] <brendan_> basically that tells it to go back through the autodetect process it did on install
[08:46] <brendan_> and if you have a radeon 9000, it *should* set up dri automatically
[08:46] <brendan_> though I've never tried it
[08:50] <bigfun> Mrono: did u send it to me? because i have been disconnected :/
[08:51] <Mrono> not yet
[08:51] <Mrono> futzing with my settings
[08:51] <bigfun> ok
[08:51] <Mrono> man transparency takes up alot of gfx
[08:52] <Mrono> i just wish it would work on windows
[08:53] <brendan_> yeah, it's fun to play with, but it's not really there yet
[08:53] <brendan_> aero on vista is supposed to be cool, but from what I've read, it's a graphics hog
[08:56] <Taker> Does anyone want to play kwin4 over the internet?
[09:03] <Mrono> interestering
[09:03] <Mrono> I froze my computer
[09:03] <Taker> Mrono, do you want to play kwin4 vs me?
[09:03] <Mrono> huh
[09:04] <brendan_> how'd you manage that?
[09:04] <Mrono> not sure
[09:05] <Mrono> I was trying to open synaptic
[09:05] <brendan_> lol, I've been trying to make myself learn dvorak, and it's messing with my typing speed
[09:05] <Mrono> and the computer froze
[09:05] <brendan_> hmmm
[09:05] <brendan_> yeah, I've run into freezing with kdesu/etc. before, though usually just the program
[09:05] <brendan_> although it could be synaptic too
[09:05] <Mrono> whole computer froze
[09:05] <brendan_> but I'm running 3.5.1
[09:06] <Mrono> 3.4.3
[09:06] <brendan_> yeah, I would have thought that'd be abit more stable
[09:06] <Mrono> yeah
[09:06] <brendan_> I upgraded not long ago, and I think 3.5.1's a little bit less consistent, though it's hard to tell
[09:06] <Mrono> 3.5.1 had issues with me
[09:07] <brendan_> though it does have some nice features, mostly little things
[09:07] <Mrono> may have aalso been the fact that I was running flight cd 4
[09:07] <brendan_> yeah, I seem to have most of the kinks out of it now
[09:07] <brendan_> there were a couple of little issues, but they're relatively minor
[09:07] <brendan_> missing device icons, no keyboard layouts, etc.
[09:08] <motyR> Hi, in which package can i find the kubuntu instll packge service menu?
[09:08] <brendan_> motyR, what, you mean package install software?
[09:09] <Mrono> how do I find out what repository a package is coming from
[09:09] <brendan_> Adept should be installed by default, or Synaptic
[09:09] <brendan_> um, Mrono, you can see if you watch quickly in adept, or just use apt-get install, and it'll tell you where it's downloading from
[09:09] <motyR> brendan_: service menu for qonq to install packages with the action menu
[09:09] <brendan_> I think it might be possible to do it with apt-cache
[09:09] <Mrono> hmmmmm
[09:09] <xiO__> easy question, when you compile a program from source, do you have to add the program to the k menu manually or is there an automatic way?
[09:09] <motyR> konq*
[09:10] <bigfun> xiO__: it depends which program
[09:10] <brendan_> xiO__, if you do a "sudo make install" it'll usually add a menu item, though if it doesn't, you'll probably need to add one
[09:11] <xiO__> I compiled kmuddy, and I did do a sudo make install but nothing new is in the k menu
[09:11] <brendan_> hmmm, I haven't used it, is that a MUD client?
[09:11] <xiO__> yeah
[09:11] <jpatrick> and what si kmuddy?
[09:11] <MurDoK> hi
[09:11] <motyR> brendan_: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=23981&file1=23981-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Kubuntu+Package+Menu
[09:11] <xiO__> a mud client
[09:11] <bigfun> so probably u have to add this manualy
[09:11] <Mrono> hey bigfun
[09:11] <xiO__> ok
[09:11] <bigfun> motyR: i had this service by default
[09:12] <Mrono> have you enabled the universe repositories
[09:12] <bigfun> Mrono: errr
[09:12] <brendan_> err, xiO__, there's a debian package ont he website, you know
[09:12] <Mrono> !universe
[09:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:12] <bigfun> i will check
[09:12] <xiO__> yeah but it had dependency issues
[09:12] <brendan_> oh, motyR, I see what you mean
[09:13] <brendan_> huh, mine was installed by default, I guess
[09:13] <brendan_> didn't even know that existed, thanks for point it out motyR, though I may not be of much help
[09:13] <bigfun> yea mine too
[09:13] <brendan_> ah, k xiO__
[09:14] <xiO__> so whether or not sudomakeinstall creates an entry in the k menu is non-standardized?
[09:15] <motyR> brendan_: yes i know u do, but which package owns it for some reason i dont see it any more
[09:15] <brendan_> xiO__: well, basically it's a case of whether the programmer that made the program put it there or not
[09:15] <MurDoK> please could someone try 'debconf locales' ? I think my locales package is broken (using dapper)
[09:15] <MurDoK> debconf* is broken :?
[09:15] <brendan_> xio__: you might also try enabling the "Debian" menu (I forget how, though there should be a faq somewhere)
[09:15] <xiO__> brendan_,  ok thanks a lot, that answers my questions
[09:16] <brendan_> motyR: not sure, sorry.  if I had to guess, I'd say it's probably just part of KDE, though it could be added by adept I suppose
[09:16] <xiO__> brendan_, the debian menu is enabled (I believe automatix did that) but I don't see it there, either
[09:17] <motyR> brendan_: yea, i'll check it, 10x:)
[09:17] <brendan_> xiO__: I'd guess you need to do it manually then... a good way to figure out if something is in the k-menu is to try to run it with katapult
[09:18] <brendan_> if you try Alt+Spacebar and then type the name, and it doesn't show up as an icon, it's a good bet it's not anywhere in your menu
[09:18] <slow-motion> n8
[09:18] <brendan_> assuming you have katapult running, which I believe is the default in breezy
[09:18] <brendan_> anyways, yeah, I've gotta go all
[09:18] <brendan_> cheers
[09:18] <xiO__> bye
[09:20] <Mrono> hmm
[09:20] <Mrono> anyone use imwheel?
[09:31] <MurDoK> what's better or newer... utf8 or iso-8859?
[09:31] <Mrono> I need to find someone who installed kubuntu on a toshiba sat. P35-s111 like me
[09:33] <bigfun> Mrono: i have enabled universe repos, should i have 1.4 there?
[09:33] <tsdgeos> MurDoK: utf8
[09:33] <Mrono> yeah
[09:33] <Mrono> is it?
[09:33] <bigfun> nope....
[09:33] <Mrono> ok
[09:33] <Mrono> here
[09:34] <MurDoK> tsdgeos, any main reason? hehe
[09:34] <callie> if a computer has no ram is it still possible to boot to bios?
[09:35] <tsdgeos> MurDoK: basically because you can have latin, japanese, etc encoded at the same time
[09:35] <tsdgeos> have a look at it on wikipedia or somewhere else
[09:35] <MurDoK> ah that's enough
[09:35] <MurDoK> hehe
[09:36] <bigfun> callie: rather not but i'm not sure
[09:37] <callie> huh?
[09:37] <callie> i take it you mean no?
[09:37] <Mrono> everytime I open up synaptic I install like 15 packages
[09:37] <Mrono> lol
[09:37] <Zappa> callie: no
[09:37] <bigfun> callie: yes :)
[09:37] <callie> lol
[09:37] <callie> cool
[09:37] <callie> i found an old pooter seems to be working minus the fact there is no ram
[09:38] <Jolt> How do I install a driver? Linspire may have a driver for my chipset for a USB Wireless Dongle here:http://software.linspire.com/pool-src/r/rt2570-2.6.10/
[09:39] <callie> i dont have any sdram with me at the moment so i'll have to wait until i can borrow some from work
[09:39] <Jolt> I just don't know what to do with the link that was given to me..
[09:40] <Mrono> anyone else have a griffin powermate
[09:43] <Jolt> Is installing a driver difficult? What are the files involved?
[09:45] <bipolar> Jolt, usualy with linux there is no driver to install. they are all included. it's only needed when you have poor vendor support for the hardware.
[09:48] <Jolt> bipolar, if i could add a driver for a certain bit of hardware, how wud i go about doing it?
[09:48] <Jolt> using these files http://software.linspire.com/pool-src/r/rt2570-2.6.10/
[09:49] <bipolar> Jolt, in Linux a "driver" is a module. you'll get better results doing searches for modules then drivers.
[09:49] <Mrono> checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... ./configure: line 19301: python-config: command not found
[09:50] <Mrono> how do I clear that up
[09:50] <bipolar> Jolt, what is the hardware model?
[09:51] <Jolt> cnet wireless-g usb dongle
[09:52] <bipolar> Jolt, is there a model number on the usb dongle?
[09:52] <bipolar> or is that it...
[09:52] <Jolt> in the form XXXX:XXXX?
[09:52] <bipolar> hmmm... maybe.
[09:53] <bipolar> http://www.cnetusa.com/product/specs/wl_CWD-854.htm << is that it Jolt?
[09:53] <Jolt> bingo
[09:53] <Jolt> Bus 001 Device 011: ID 148f:2570
[09:54] <cedricshock> Hi, I'm looking for where to look for help with a problem: Konqueror seems to have fouled up its ideas of mime types to the point that the audiocd service doesn't work.
[09:55] <cedricshock> Konqueror thinks an audiocd folder should be opened with another program or downloaded (app/8tet-stream) when left clicked on, instead of opening in another konq view.
[09:56] <Jolt> bipolar, I was told these drivers would help me....
[09:56] <Jolt> http://software.linspire.com/pool-src/r/rt2570-2.6.10/
[09:56] <Jolt> seems to be the same chipset?
[09:58] <bipolar> Jolt, I don't know. I havn't found out what chipset it is yet.
[09:58] <bipolar> what do you get in dmesg when you plug it in?
[09:58] <rred> is there a simple way to edit the kde menu for all users (globally) ??
[09:59] <Jolt> [4312449.000000]  ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper_load_driver:92): loadndiswrapper failed (65280); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[09:59] <cedricshock> rred: In the control center or system settings the menu editor has an administrator mode.
[09:59] <Jolt> But I've reinstalled Kubuntu, so i don't have ndiswrapper any more
[10:00] <bipolar> Jolt... you don't want to use ndiswrapper if you can help it... hmmm
[10:00] <bipolar> if those drivers match, then it's using a rt2x00 chipset.
[10:00] <bipolar> yep
[10:00] <bipolar> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Hardware
[10:01] <rred> cedricshock: i've found the kde menu editor, but where's the administrator mode?
[10:01] <Jolt> rt2570 i think it is
[10:01] <angasule> what's the CLI command for the anagram command?
[10:03] <bipolar> Jolt, go here.... http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[10:03] <jpatrick> Jolt: sudo modprobe rt2570 ?
[10:03] <cedricshock> rred: hmm, it's not in the control center anymore. You can, from a console sudo kmenuedit. That's supposed to copy the resulting changes back into /usr, not sure if it really does.
[10:03] <bipolar> heh
[10:04] <jpatrick> !kdesu
[10:04] <ubotu> methinks kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[10:04] <bipolar> Jolt, the module is included in my install of dapper.
[10:04] <Fredde`> I'm sitting here, trying to choose between kubuntu or ubuntu.What is the + and - in kubuntu?
[10:04] <jpatrick> cedricshock: ^^
[10:04] <Mrono> same thing
[10:04] <Mrono> ubuntu runs GNOME
[10:04] <Mrono> kubuntu runs KDE
[10:04] <Fredde`> :/
[10:04] <Mrono> you can switch them if you want by uninstalling one and installing the other
[10:05] <Mrono> I prefer KDE
[10:05] <bipolar> Jolt, it looks like the module is in dapper (the next version still in beta) but not in breezy (the current release)
[10:05] <jpatrick> or having both
[10:05] <Fredde`> Mrono: what's so mouch better with kde?
[10:05] <Jolt> bipolar, what do I do with the downloaded file?
[10:05] <Fredde`> I like the interface more
[10:06] <Mrono> yeah
[10:06] <Mrono> I like the interface
[10:06] <cedricshock> Ok, combined with jpatrick's advice use kdesu kmenuedit instead.
[10:06] <bipolar> Jolt, let me do some more searching.
[10:07] <Mrono> !pastebin
[10:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:07] <m_1una> hi
[10:08] <Mrono> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9214
[10:08] <Mrono> why am I getting errors
[10:08] <bipolar> Jolt, this is a mess. there are no procompiled versions.
[10:09] <bipolar> Jolt, what does "uname -r" tell you on your pc?
[10:09] <Jolt> i'l check
[10:11] <bipolar> Jolt, :)
[10:12] <bipolar> well, the good news is when dapper is released it should just work :)
[10:13] <Jolt> "uname -r" = 2.6.12-9-386
[10:13] <jpatrick> bipolar: feature freeze is today
[10:14] <riishigh> can anybody tell me what package glxinfo is in?... I seem to have... "misplaced" that :)
[10:14] <bigfun> Mrono:
[10:14] <Mrono> yeah
[10:14] <bigfun> i found what u need
[10:15] <bipolar> jpatrick, cool.
[10:15] <Mrono> for...
[10:15] <Mrono> there's 2 billion things I need for linux right now lol
[10:15] <bipolar> Jolt, ok. I can build the module for you.
[10:15] <bigfun> Mrono: :) but for that u pasted on pastebin
[10:15] <bipolar> Jolt, the problem is, as soon as you upgrade your kernel, the module will probbly need to be rebuilt again.
[10:15] <Mrono> ah
[10:15] <Mrono> sweet
[10:16] <Mrono> synaptic is my friend
[10:16] <bigfun> Mrono: so u found it already ?
[10:16] <Jolt> thanks ;)
[10:16] <Mrono> no
[10:16] <Mrono> i've been looking
[10:17] <bipolar> Jolt, the other problem is that I have no way to test it...
[10:17] <m_tadeu> hi everyone...how can i start a ppp connection at boot time?
[10:17] <Mrono> hey jpatrick what's kautoclick
[10:17] <bigfun> x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev
[10:17] <Jolt> bipolar, whats the worst that could happen with it?
[10:17] <bipolar> Jolt, it doesn't work. thats about it
[10:17] <jpatrick> Mrono: a program that does what you don't want it to do
[10:17] <bigfun> that is the package where that file is
[10:18] <Mrono> hmmm
[10:18] <Mrono> on the repositories?
[10:18] <bigfun> yes
[10:18] <Mrono> hmmm
[10:18] <jpatrick> Mrono: try ti
[10:18] <Jolt> bipolar, wouldn't make a difference to what I have at present
[10:18] <Jolt> I'm willing to try just about anything
[10:18] <Jolt> ;)
[10:19] <bigfun> lol
[10:19] <Mrono> lmao
[10:20] <Mrono> found it
[10:20] <Mrono> lets see if it works
[10:20] <__mikem> Jolt, I seriously hope that was a joke
[10:20] <Jolt> yes......
[10:20] <Jolt> well I laughed afterwards
[10:20] <Mrono> well
[10:20] <Mrono> thanks a bunch nigfun
[10:20] <Mrono> seems that what goes around comes around
[10:20] <Mrono> lol
[10:21] <__mikem> lol, o no
[10:21] <Mrono> bigfun*
[10:21] <bigfun> :)
[10:21] <Mrono> there's nothing better then a smooth make install
[10:21] <Mrono> my god I love linuix
[10:22] <bipolar> um... why doesn't the package kernel-source 2.6.12 exist in breezy?
[10:22] <__mikem> Maybe god has made linux the chosen one, the one that will finally slay the dragon that is Microsoft
[10:22] <__mikem> lol
[10:22] <Mrono> lol
[10:22] <Mrono> I just switched from winxp a few days ago
[10:22] <Mrono> < winxp guru
[10:22] <__mikem> same here,
[10:22] <__mikem> I am actually a computer programmer so
[10:23] <__mikem> I have plenty of experience with the hell hole that is the windows api
[10:23] <Mrono> I do what my photoshop though
[10:23] <Mrono> and mirc
[10:23] <jpatrick> < elite kubuntu dev
[10:24] <__mikem> What part to you work on
[10:24] <__mikem> *do you
[10:24] <jpatrick> Most parts
[10:25] <jpatrick> robotgeek: ;)
[10:25] <bipolar> guys, I need the kernel source for breezy to build this module for Jolt. Apt cant find it on any of my machines.... any help?
[10:25] <robotgeek> bipolar, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:26] <bipolar> robotgeek, for some reason this thing seems to be looking for the entire source tree. maybe I can fool it...
[10:26] <thorsten> Hallo!
[10:26] <Mrono> sweet
[10:27] <Mrono> it works
[10:27] <thorsten> Oh...
[10:27] <Mrono> hi
[10:27] <thorsten> It's an english channel.
[10:27] <Mrono> yep
[10:27] <thorsten> Is there anywhere a german Kubuntu-Channel available?
[10:27] <robotgeek> bipolar: symlinking build to someplace useful works?
[10:27] <robotgeek> !de
[10:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:27] <thorsten> Cool...
[10:27] <thorsten> Thx!
[10:27] <bipolar> gah!
[10:27] <cedricshock> !es
[10:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:27] <bushito> which windows emulator is the most recomended?? =O
[10:27] <bipolar> the name changed from kernel-source to linux-source! when did that happen?
[10:27] <cedricshock> !br
[10:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[10:28] <bigfun> !pl
[10:28] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[10:29] <SirKillalot> can I ban this ugly save dialog of gnome and replace it for every app by the kde save dialog?
[10:29] <allee> SirKillalot: no
[10:30] <allee> bipolar: in dapper
[10:30] <bipolar> allee, no, breezy
[10:31] <allee> bipolar: ups right
[10:31] <bipolar> apt-get install kernel-source; apt-get install linux-source
[10:31] <bipolar> ^^^weird
[10:33] <Fredde`> How can I install ubuntu, install kde and remove gnome
[10:36] <apokryphos> Fredde`: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop once you've started up, then just remove some vital gnome-lib, and voila
[10:36] <Fredde`> apokryphos: when I install kde, do the gnome login manager go away?
[10:37] <__mikem> not completely
[10:37] <apokryphos> Fredde`: installing KDE will ask you which one you want to use -- GDM (Gnome one), or KDM (The KDE one)
[10:37] <apokryphos> select the one you want
[10:37] <Fredde`> Ok
[10:37] <Fredde`> Thanks for your hep
[10:37] <Fredde`> help*
[10:37] <apokryphos> no problem at all
[10:40] <Jolt> bipolar, gtg, I'll stay on, be back in a while
[10:40] <bipolar> Jolt, email
[10:40] <bipolar> Jolt, I'm leaving work soon.
[10:41] <bipolar> Jolt, /msg me your email address
[10:41] <jpatrick> apokryphos: kautoclick is in :)
[10:41] <apokryphos> jpatrick: cool stuff =)
[10:41] <jpatrick> was rather annoying when I tried it out
[10:42] <jpatrick> I was typing and it was erasing things
[10:42] <bipolar> I can't get this module to build
[10:43] <bipolar> gah
[10:45] <bipolar> got it
[10:45] <bipolar> ok. I hope he comes back on soon. I have them built and have no way to get them to him
[10:54] <Mrono> woah!
[10:54] <Mrono> video!
[10:55] <MetaMorfoziS> hi
[10:57] <Mrono> hi
[10:59] <bigfun> Mrono: what video player do you use?
[10:59] <m_tadeu> how can i start a usb port  with low_latency by default?
[11:00] <_ubuntu> hi
[11:00] <_ubuntu> alguem portugues
[11:01] <_mindspin> ! po
[11:01] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin
[11:01] <_mindspin> ! pl
[11:01] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:01] <m_tadeu> _ubuntu: yes...
[11:03] <Mrono> what's the console command to make a dir
[11:03] <_ubuntu> alguem  portugues aki????
[11:04] <robotgeek> Mrono: mkdir
[11:04] <robotgeek> !cli
[11:04] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[11:06] <m_1una> I need help
[11:06] <m_1una> sudo apt-get -f update
[11:06] <m_1una> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb 25 08:59:00 2006
[11:06] <m_1una> I can't fix it
[11:07] <m_1una> anything that requires sudo can't be done
[11:07] <m_1una> so I cannot change the time
[11:07] <robotgeek> m_1una: hmm, doesn't a reboot fixit?
[11:08] <m_1una> it sais the same
[11:08] <robotgeek> :)
[11:08] <m_1una> anyway it is not windows
[11:08] <robotgeek> m_1una: +1
[11:09] <robotgeek> m_1una: sudo -K
[11:09] <SpentCasing> how do i delete a whole directory tree, i tried sudo rm -r , but it said the directory wasnt  empty
[11:10] <robotgeek> SpentCasing: rm -rf , be careful
[11:10] <robotgeek> m_1una: it maybe "sudo -k", i am not on my box right now
[11:10] <SpentCasing> ok thank you
[11:11] <m_1una> fixed
[11:11] <m_1una> not it wasn't that
[11:11] <Mrono> oooo
[11:11] <Mrono> that's nice
[11:12] <Mrono> I found a run as different user
[11:12] <robotgeek> m_1una: what is the solution?
[11:12] <m_1una> thanks
[11:12] <Mrono> so I ran konqueror as root
[11:12] <m_1una> I killed a proccess
[11:12] <m_1una> kdeinit
[11:13] <robotgeek> m_1una: okay. as long as it works :)
[11:13] <m_1una> robotgeek: it works but I am starting to use linux so....
[11:14] <robotgeek> m_1una: i am not sure why that happens, but it goes away for me after i kill sudo session
[11:17] <visik7> anyone got delay between one track and another using amarok ? I got 5 seconds delay using gstreamer and 2 with xine engins + an annoing "tick" after 1 second the the track is played (only xine engine)
[11:18] <apokryphos> visik7: that's a special affect. Alter it in Settings > Configure Amarok
[11:18] <visik7> uh?
[11:19] <visik7> are u joking ?
[11:20] <apokryphos> visik7: well, if it's set. In theory it should be crossfading (unless you altered it to be a clear "gap")
[11:20] <visik7> crossfading is disables
[11:20] <visik7> disabled
[11:21] <Mrono> HA!
[11:22] <Mrono> I just spent 5 min trying to figure out why my amarok 1,4 would play music
[11:22] <Mrono> then I realised it was muted
[11:23] <Mrono> cross fading works great of amarok 1.4
[11:24] <Snake__> Helloo
[11:27] <bigfun> visik7: i got delay to but only using gstreamer, when i changed to xine, delay disappeared
[11:27] <Snake__> Xine owns gstreamer...thats why
[11:27] <visik7> yes I switch to xine with alsa an no delay
[11:28] <visik7> while xine with arts got 2 sec
[11:28] <visik7> so
[11:28] <Mrono> I like Xine
[11:28] <visik7> arts + gstreamer = 5 sec  arts + xine = 2 sec  alsa + gstreamer 2 sec  alsa + xine no delay
[11:28] <bigfun> visik7: i never used arts, always alsa
[11:29] <visik7> but alsa support multiple stream ?
[11:29] <visik7> or it's locked to 1 like oss ?
[11:29] <bigfun> it is not
[11:30] <Hobbsee> bimberi: yay!  /whois me :P
[11:30] <trappist> visik7: only if your sound card does hardware mixing
[11:30] <visik7> trappist: seems to be support
[11:30] <visik7> ok I'll use alsa
[11:31] <trappist> yeah I never had to mess with arts either because I stick with creative cards
[11:31] <visik7> I've an integrated sis7012
[11:37] <bipolar> Jolt: are you back yet?
[11:44] <bimberi> Hobbsee: The cloak fits well :)
[11:44] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:45] <bimberi> As does robotgeek's :)
[11:45] <robotgeek> thanks bimberi :)
[11:46] <Mrono> hi hobbsee
[11:46] <Hobbsee> hey Mrono
[11:48] <m_tadeu> how can i run wvdial on demand?
[11:48] <Hobbsee> type wvdial into console?
[11:48] <m_tadeu> mm...at boot time, the system trys to connect to set the time...no console there :)
[11:56] <samoura> i downloaded gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/ NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg0.run  and do i have to burn it to run it? yes or no please
[11:58] <SkrotFFS> no, don't think so
[11:58] <SkrotFFS> chmod a+x <file>.run and  ./<file>.run
[11:58] <visik7> samoura: no
[11:58] <samoura> okei
[11:58] <visik7> samoura: just ./NVIDIA ...
[11:58] <visik7> as SkrotFFS says
[11:58] <Mrono> is it possible to get kaffine to play video
[11:58] <Mrono> like .avi and .wmv and .mov
[11:59] <SkrotFFS> Mrono: What do you mean? To play when you click on video from konqueror f.ex?
[11:59] <SkrotFFS> kaffeine is afaik a movieplayer, so I guess it should handle playing video :p
[11:59] <Mrono> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[11:59] <robotgeek> Mrono, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:59] <Mrono> been there
[12:00] <SkrotFFS> hm.. what does kaffein use for a backend?
[12:00] <samoura> gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/ NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg0.run how do i install it where to put it help me please}
[12:00] <samoura> ?
[12:00] <SkrotFFS> Just put it wherever, and execute it
[12:01] <robotgeek> Mrono: also install kaffeine-xine
[12:01] <SkrotFFS> Or he could try gstreamer0.8-plugins
[12:01] <Mrono> ugh no
[12:01] <SkrotFFS> If gstreamer is selected as the default back end
[12:02] <Mrono> xine thankyou
[12:02] <SkrotFFS> Then go with what robotgeek said =)
[12:02] <Mrono> yep