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tepsipakkihub: thanks, I've now fixed the rules' from the packages, new versions are on the way to REVU12:07
tepsipakkiand there they are: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1980  http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1981 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=198212:20
siretartgn8 folks12:20
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tepsipakkinight.. no more ice hockey from telly :)12:22
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marcin`raphink: piiiing01:06
raphinkmarcin`: let's go to #vtiger-bounty ok?01:07
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sistpotytime for another reviewing round...01:53
ajmitchsistpoty: do you ever sleep?01:57
sistpotyajmitch: as soon as dawn breaks ;)01:57
TheMusoajmitch: sivang said that in -devel to kamion. :)01:57
Toadstoolre MOTUs01:58
sistpotytepsipakki: still there?02:08
Kyrallol02:09
sistpotytepsipakki: just took a glimpse over librpcsecgss... see coments (I will first do a proper review of libgssapi though)02:10
sistpotytepsipakki: and one more thing not listed: the -dev package should depend on all -dev packages needed to satisfy headers in this -dev package (not sure if any of the build-dependencies are needed though)02:13
marcin`sistpoty: hello02:14
sistpotyhi marcin`02:14
marcin`sistpoty: got a question... could you please review vtigercrm package in REVU?02:14
sistpotymarcin`: give me a few minutes, then I'll do it ;)02:15
marcin`sistpoty: we just uploaded package that we think that is ready for dapper02:15
marcin`sistpoty: and raphink already said yes to this package but we need another MOTU to do the same :)02:15
sistpotymarcin`: sure... just a few minutes and I'll be over it ;)02:15
marcin`sistpoty: ok02:15
Toadstoolhum... just a dumb question, feature freeze just freezes new uploads or we have to file something like a UVF for package updates ?02:21
Toadstools/new/NEW/02:21
sistpotyToadstool: we don't need exceptions existing packages... I have no clue though, if we can push in new packages after feature freeze with an exception02:23
sistpotyexceptions for existing packages even02:23
Toadstoolok02:23
sistpotymarcin`: on it... will take some time ;)02:24
marcin`ok I'm here02:25
Toadstoolthis is mandatory but the templates in my wide-dhcpv6 package are not debian devel-reference, and therefore Ubuntu, I think, compliant... moreover I've got some translations for my templates...02:26
Toadstool*isn't mandatory02:26
Toadstoolgn8 MOTUs02:28
sistpotymarcin`: why does vtigercrm-core depend on vtigercrm-theme-blue (but only recommend the other themes)?02:37
marcin`because vtigercrm needs at least one theme to work02:40
marcin`sistpoty: and this theme is hardcoded as default in original config.inc.php02:40
marcin`sistpoty: so I use this as default and recommend other themes as optional02:41
sistpotymarcin`: so it won't work if would have only aqua-theme?02:41
marcin`sistpoty: it could but to make this possible user has to change config file manually02:42
ajmitchsounds broken to me02:42
marcin`sistpoty: /etc/vtigercrm/config.inc.php contains $default_theme = 'blue';02:43
ajmitchyou're still forcing them to always have the blue theme installed, no matter what their config says02:43
marcin`I also force them to use english language as default...02:44
sistpotyhm... if the default config would be broken otherwise, I guess I can live with the dependencies as they are right now02:44
marcin`there has to be at least one theme and at least one language02:44
sistpotymarcin`: you can do this with provides: vtigercrm-theme and depending on that virtual package02:44
marcin`I could keep blue in vtigercrm-core package02:44
sistpotymarcin`: but I guess this can be addressed for future releases02:45
marcin`sistpoty: propably yes but then I need to do some magic to change default theme in config.inc.php02:45
=== ajmitch disagrees
sistpotyajmitch: as in cannot wait for future releases? or as in dependencies should be fixed, even if the config would be broken?02:46
marcin`ajmitch: you disagree to what?02:46
ajmitchsistpoty: disagree that it should be put off for future releases02:46
marcin`ajmitch: ok then tell me how it should work?02:47
ajmitchdepend on real | virtual package02:47
ajmitchor you depend on the blue theme first02:47
ajmitchso blue | aqua | whatever02:47
ajmitchthey'd need to explicitly select another theme in the deps to get it02:48
marcin`ajmitch: it's not 'whatever' because then you need to set at least one as default02:48
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ajmitchand is it so very hard for someone to change their config?02:48
marcin`ajmitch: and then they should choose which one should be default02:48
ajmitchthe default would still be blue02:48
ajmitchsince if you did apt-get install vtiger-crm, it would get the blue theme02:48
sistpotyha, gained some of ajmitch's deep insight :)02:49
ajmitch:P02:49
sistpotyinsights even02:49
marcin`I don't get it...02:49
=== ajmitch can do without the mockery
marcin`it works like this right now - so what's the problem?02:49
ajmitchthe problem is that there's no way to remove the blue theme without removing the whole app02:50
ajmitchif you have blue | pink | black02:50
sistpotymarcin`: it's the way apt-get install handles dependencies... the blue-theme would be drawn in by default.02:50
ajmitchthen blue will get picked by default02:50
marcin`ajmitch: ok but in the same way there is no way to remove english02:50
ajmitchunless one of the others is selected02:50
ajmitchmarcin`: so you could change that too :)02:50
marcin`ok then tell me one thing...02:51
marcin`I got few theme packages right?02:51
marcin`and core package...02:51
marcin`and this config.inc.php is created with postinst script...02:51
marcin`if I remove theme blue as default dependency then user won't be able to use application02:52
marcin`I cannot install theme _after_ core package02:52
marcin`and there is another problem - user can install package in this way:02:53
ajmitchdependencies will be installed (and configured, iirc) before the package that depends on them02:53
marcin`apt-get install vt-core vt-theme-1 vt-theme-2 vt-theme-302:53
marcin`tell me now which one should be default?02:53
ajmitchwhichever you like02:53
marcin`so which package should be installed first?02:54
ajmitchI'm sure you can come up with a good way to choose, whether it be random choice or a preferred option02:54
marcin`with theme or core?02:54
ajmitch?02:54
KyralIs anyone working on scribes?02:55
sistpotyno02:55
ajmitchDepends02:55
sistpotyat least I'm not02:55
ajmitch    This declares an absolute dependency. A package will not be configured unless all of the packages listed in its Depends field have been correctly configured.02:55
Kyraland how long do we have before the Freeze?02:55
ajmitchso when at least 1 theme is configured, the core can be configured02:56
ajmitchKyral: a few hours02:56
Kyral.....damnit02:56
KyralI could get it ready tomorrow. But not tonight...02:56
marcin`know what... I don't see any way to make this as you want to02:56
LaserJockKyral: dapper+1?02:56
KyralLaserJock: yah...02:57
KyralI'll ITP it for Debian02:57
marcin`and I think that there is a lot of apps that has some theme as dependency and everything is ok02:57
LaserJockthat is why I think it is nice to get a sponsor in Debian. I can upload packages to unstable anytime and then sync to Ubuntu when I can.02:57
KyralI thought Sponsors were on a per package basis02:58
ajmitchLaserJock: until debian has freezes, that is02:58
marcin`ajmitch: tell me one thing - is this possible to install for example gnome without at least one default theme?02:58
LaserJockKyral: well, often times you develop a relationship with a particular DD,  I think. So you often have the same person sponsoring your uploads.02:59
marcin`ajmitch: and I really don't see any way to make this possible while dpkg doesn't provide conditional dependencies02:59
LaserJockajmitch: do you thing that Debian will have freezes in unstable?03:00
ajmitchmarcin`: different comparison, gnome has a single themes packages03:00
KyralI have a couple ITPs to file then03:01
ajmitchLaserJock: not as such03:01
marcin`ajmitch: please show me at least one package which has something you expect in vtigercrm03:01
marcin`ajmitch: I just need to see it because I don't understand what is the problem for you there03:01
=== ajmitch doesn't have time right now to go digging through packages for an example
marcin`ok then try to talk for a while about this logic...03:02
=== ajmitch doesn't have time to talk for awhile either :)
marcin`let's imagine that I'm user - and want to install vtiger03:03
KyralITPs are still filed as bugs right...03:03
marcin`so I do: apt-get install vtiger-mysql03:03
sistpotymarcin`: freedoom and it's dependency on doom-engine03:03
marcin`ajmitch: and how should I set default theme here?03:03
marcin`sistpoty: apt-getting03:04
tsengNafallo_away: talk to me03:04
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sistpotymarcin`: looking at the dependencies would be more helpful ;)03:04
marcin`sistpoty: will freedoom work without doom-engine?03:04
sistpotymarcin`: the other way round is true actually (so maybe this is not a really good example)03:05
LaserJockKyral: yeah, I used reportbug. it has an option for ITPs if I remember right.03:05
sistpotymarcin`: a package providing doom-engine needs some data-files (which are in doom-engine for example, but could also be directly installed)03:05
marcin`sistpoty: ok I see this - and then how I can choose different engine>03:05
marcin`sistpoty: dpkg gets first from list?03:06
sistpotymarcin`: it's prboom | doom-engine... so prboom should get drawn in03:06
marcin`sistpoty: because it says that freedoom depends on prboom03:06
sistpotymarcin`: but you can install lxdoom and remove prboom03:06
marcin`but I have to install prboom first?03:07
sistpotymarcin`: afaik no... apt-get install doom-legacy lxdoom-x11 should do what you want03:07
marcin`we are talking about apt-get install freedoom03:08
marcin`do I have a choice then?03:08
sistpotysorry... go it wrong03:08
marcin`can I apt-get install freedoom without prboom?03:08
sistpotyapt-get install freedoom lxdoom-x11 should do that trick03:08
marcin`apt-get install freedoom doom-engine or apt-get install freedoom prboom?03:09
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sistpotymarcin`: sudo apt-get --simulate install lxdoom-x11 freedoom does exactly what you want03:10
sistpotymarcin`: freedoom lxdoom-x11 *will* draw in prboom03:10
minghuasistpoty: I believe apt-get install freedom prboom- is another option03:11
sistpotyminghua: no, just tried it, it does draw in prboom03:11
marcin`sistpoty: ok then how can I switch between engines?03:11
sistpotymarcin`: by installing another engine and removing the previous enging03:12
sistpotyah... my typing is horrible today03:12
marcin`but what if I want to have both?03:12
sistpotyyou install them both03:13
marcin`ok and which one is default then?03:13
ajmitchwhichever freedoom decides to use03:13
marcin`imagine now - I got vtiger and for example 10 themes03:13
sistpotymarcin`: prboom, because it gets drawn in automatically03:13
ajmitchit's up to the program to decide what files it uses03:13
sistpotymarcin`: but otoh there is no real default03:13
marcin`each can be default but at least one _has_ to be default03:14
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ajmitchso choose one as default03:14
marcin`I already did - blue is default03:14
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sistpotyajmitch: the example is stupid, since freedoom (the datafiles) shouldn't depend on a doom-engine at all... but that's a different issue03:14
ajmitchI mean without forcing users to always have it03:14
marcin`I need to force users because there has to be at least one03:15
ajmitchsistpoty: you're right, programs should depend on data, otherwise you can end up with circular dependencies03:15
marcin`and there is another thing - blue is let's say 'system' default03:16
sistpotyajmitch: yes, and the tricky part is that you have all combinations of doom-engine and data-files here (as you could install the original doom-datafiles) but let's get back to vtiger03:16
marcin`then each vtiger user can set different one as default03:16
minghuasistpoty: in my system "apt-get install freedoom prboom-" works (note the minus sigh after prboom), it installs doomlegacy-x11 instead03:16
ajmitchsistpoty: I'll let you handle it, I don't have the stamina to discuss this for the next 4 hours03:16
sistpotyminghua: ah... I thought it was a typo *g*... learned just another thing03:16
sistpotyajmitch: phew... and this is just one of the issues I see w.o. even having built vtiger...03:17
minghuasistpoty: a handy but less-known feature of apt-get :-)03:17
sistpoty:)03:18
sistpotymarcin`: so it might break if you install all themes, user sets a different theme and this theme get's removed?03:18
marcin`ok guys let's do something03:18
marcin`sistpoty: yes03:19
marcin`sistpoty: but it's usual03:19
sistpotyhm... don't have a (nice) solution at hand for this03:19
marcin`sistpoty: in the same way I can set some theme in gnome on my desktop then remove this theme...03:20
marcin`sistpoty: and gnome will propably switch to default right>03:20
marcin`?03:20
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sistpotymarcin`: no idea, I use kde ;) (and I'm not eager in testing this right now)03:20
minghuagnome behaves strangely last time I tried that :-)03:21
sistpotymarcin`: imo if you set a hard dependency on all themes, it will not make vtigercrm break, until you figured a better solution03:21
marcin`anyway how it should be done to make you happy?03:21
marcin`sistpoty: but I don't need hard dependency on all themes03:22
sistpotymarcin`: I guess some postinst/postrm magic of the themes would be the way to go03:22
marcin`sistpoty: I need hard dependency on one single theme03:22
marcin`sistpoty: and default theme is set to blue in original config file03:23
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marcin`sistpoty: so I use this theme as default and then user can add optional themes if wants to03:23
sistpotymarcin`: if you can live with the breakage, if a theme gets removed afterwards, you could depend on blue | theme and have all the themes provide theme03:23
marcin`sistpoty: please install vtiger and try this at least once03:24
hubI have an app whose version is R6 -BETA03:24
sistpotymarcin`: what exactly do you want me to try?03:24
hubhow shall I version it03:24
marcin`sistpoty: then you will see that it has login dialog03:25
hub0.0+R6BETA ?03:25
marcin`sistpoty: and there user can choose theme03:25
marcin`sistpoty: this is dropdown and it has to have at least one entry on it's list03:25
marcin`so there always will be blue03:25
sistpotymarcin`: I will do that... but first I'd like to review a little bit more03:26
marcin`or more...03:26
marcin`ok03:26
marcin`but I'll be online for about 30 minutes...03:26
marcin`it's 3:37 am here03:26
marcin`and I need to go to bed soon03:26
sistpotyhub: good question... 0.0+R6beta is at least not wrong03:26
hubyeah03:26
sistpotymarcin`: same here... but there are still some (really serious issues)03:27
hubI'll start with that03:27
marcin`sistpoty: go on then...03:27
sistpotymarcin`: you should actually put everything from copyright.txt into debian/copyright03:29
sistpotymarcin`: because the copyright information need to be available uncompressed03:29
sistpotymarcin`: license_agreement should also be in debian/copyright03:30
marcin`ehh it's ArmeBosse issue03:30
sistpotymarcin`: but that's a pretty serious issue imo03:31
sistpotymarcin`: another thing: vtigercrm-mysql-local: does it need php4 or libapache[2] -mod-php4?03:31
marcin`libapache03:31
sistpotymarcin`: and the conflicts to php5 is wrong, unless it contains the same files as php5 does03:31
marcin`but it won't work if there is php5 in system03:32
minghuamarcin`: that doesn't mean it needs to Confilct with php503:33
sistpotymarcin`: but conflicts *only* states: cannot be installed at the same time (due to the same files being in the package)03:33
sistpotymarcin`: there is no method of describing app foo will break app bar in debian/control03:33
marcin`ok I'll remove this but it sucks because php5 is now in main...03:33
sistpotymarcin`: mom, I'll look for a lengthy rant^Wexplanation from keybuk03:34
marcin`and it will make vtigercrm propably unusable03:34
marcin`and what about these licenses - it's not enough that they are mentioned in copyright?03:34
sistpotymarcin`: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/22335 for conflicts03:35
Ubugtumalone bug 22335 in ubuntu-meta ubuntu-desktop "gnome-screensaver conflicts with ubuntu-desktop" [Normal,Fix released] 03:35
sistpotymarcin`: no, if you look at the debs, copyright.txt is compressed, and that's the point about it03:35
sistpotymarcin`: you should simply copy all the contents of copyright.txt to debian/copyright (as well as license_agreement)03:36
marcin`sistpoty: is there a way to keep these files uncompressed in /doc ?03:41
marcin`sistpoty: they are not compressed in *.orig.tar.gz03:41
minghuasomeone should put keybuk's explanation in a more apparent place :-)03:41
TheMusoIf any MOTUs have time, there is a new speechd-up package available for review.03:42
sistpotymarcin`: yes, but imo you should put that into debian/copyright03:42
marcin`ok just a moment03:42
marcin`so remove this php5 conflict?03:43
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vividhow exactly do i sign up for motu?03:43
sistpotymarcin`: yes, please remove the conflict03:43
TheMusovivid: YOu can either find a package that is not yet in the archive to upload, or start helping to fix bugs.03:43
marcin`sistpoty: ok then is there any way to ensure that some other dependency will not broke my package?03:44
marcin`break...03:44
vividthats it, ive got an app of mine that im trying to get in...but i cant figure out how, ive uploaded to revu, i think03:44
sistpotymarcin`: no.03:44
vividi already have the changes, dsc, amd64 and x86 packages of the libs and binary03:44
sistpotymarcin`: at least no automatic way03:44
marcin`sistpoty: well it sucks...03:44
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sistpotymarcin`: why does it break if you have php5 installed?03:45
TheMusovivid: Have you emailed to submit your GPG key?03:45
marcin`sistpoty: because by default apache will use php5 (if it is installed then it overrides php4)03:45
zakamehi all03:45
vividTheMuso: no im not having much luck with finding this type of information on the site03:45
marcin`sistpoty: and vtigercrm php code is not compatible with php503:45
vividTheMuso: but i have my private and pub key here03:46
vividTheMuso: and my dsc, changes is signed03:46
TheMusovivid: I don't have much time right now, but give me a sec and I will find the link.03:46
vividsweet, thanks03:46
sistpotymarcin`: you ship some apache-config-fragment... couldn't you put s.th. in there that prevents usage of php5?03:46
vividdo i submit to REVU, or MOTU?03:46
marcin`sistpoty: don't know that03:47
TheMusohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU03:47
marcin`sistpoty: btw this package is broken...03:47
TheMusovivid: Thats the link with the info you need.03:47
sistpotymarcin`: oh, that's bad03:47
marcin`sistpoty: need to fix that.. ArmeBosse removed my postinst code and replaced with his that is broken03:47
marcin`sistpoty: not big issue but this package is not installable at the moment03:48
sistpotymarcin`: should I post all comments I found up till now? or do you want to wait until I finished reviewing03:49
ajmitchsounds like a big enough issue03:49
marcin`yes post all you got03:49
marcin`ajmitch: right... I had no time to test it - he said that this is only regression to what he had before and it was workable...03:50
zakamehi MOTUs!03:50
marcin`ajmitch: but now I see that he was wrong03:50
sistpotyhey zakame03:50
zakamehello sistpoty03:51
sistpotymarcin`: posted to revu... I mentioned most of them here already03:53
vividapparently ive already got it uploaded, but i cant sign in, and the rocover link provides nothing for me to paste and decrpyt03:53
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marcin`sistpoty: there is lintian override with missing-debconf-dependency03:54
marcin`sistpoty: is that ok?03:55
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marcin`sistpoty: another question - we need some template file - config.template.php to use this file as input for dbconfig-common03:56
marcin`sistpoty: and then we get config.inc.php as output03:56
marcin`sistpoty: it goes to /etc/vtigercrm/03:56
marcin`sistpoty: is this ok to have template there too?03:56
sistpotymarcin`: no... lintian overrides are (if ever) only good if you know for certain that lintian is wrong03:56
marcin`sistpoty: or maybe template should go to /tmp and then should be removed after config.inc.php is already generated by postinst?03:57
marcin`sistpoty: so I should add debconf dependency>03:57
sistpotymarcin`: templates shouldn't be in /etc... I03:57
sistpotymarcin`: yes, please do03:58
sistpotymarcin`: you can't install a file to /tmp03:58
sistpotymarcin`: (i.e. a package can't have a file in /tmp)03:58
marcin`sistpoty: I don't want to install file there I had a piece of code that generated file03:58
marcin`sistpoty: with mktemp in /tmp03:59
jsgotangcohrmm it seems libpng12-0 broke pngcrush03:59
sistpotymarcin`: if it's temporary then it should be tmp, shouldn't it?03:59
marcin`sistpoty: and then this file was used as template to generate /etc/vtigercrm/config.inc.php03:59
marcin`sistpoty: and removed from /tmp after postinst03:59
marcin`sistpoty: so anyway if I want to use template that should be temporary04:00
vividsiretart: im having trouble logging into REVU, are you here?04:00
marcin`sistpoty: I should install/generate this file from postinst04:00
sistpotyvivid: just a sec, I'll take a look (soon)04:01
marcin`sistpoty: then do something with this file in postinst and remove from tmp on the end - right?04:01
sistpotymarcin`: sounds good04:01
sistpotyvivid: what's your email-address for revu?04:01
vividsistpoty: jaugustine@vivnet.net04:01
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vividi cant seem to get my encrypted password..04:02
marcin`sistpoty: so the thing now is that ArneBosse wants to use template file which he expects to be in /etc/vtigercrm04:02
marcin`sistpoty: but he doesn't provide any script to put this file there - and this is why currently this package is broken04:02
sistpotymarcin`: then unbreak it ;)04:03
marcin`sistpoty: so I could add script that will install template file04:03
marcin`sistpoty: but it definetly shouldn't go to /etc/04:03
sistpotymarcin`: if it's temporary, it shouldn't go to /etc... (or just a template that's no config-file)04:03
marcin`sistpoty: ok he will be angry but I don't care - my code is ok - his code is broken ;)04:04
marcin`sistpoty: just a moment :)04:04
sistpotyvivid: did you upload a package to revu yet?04:05
vividyes, two, and when i try to re-upload, it says theyre already there04:05
sistpotyvivid: give me another sec please ;)04:06
vividthey are libpar2 0.2-0ubuntu1 and gpar2 0.3.1-0ubuntu104:06
sistpotyvivid: yes, both have been moved to the rejected queue... only question remains is why04:07
vividif there is no license file will that happen? i think its named copying04:08
sistpotyvivid: no, they are rejected in the revu-queue by some script... so there is either s.th. wrong with the signature or your key not yet imported or the scripts fault (once again)04:09
vividwell, i didnt send my key to the keyserver until after i uploaded, so thats probably why04:09
sistpotyvivid: what's your keyid?04:10
ajmitchvivid: sending to the keyserver is just 1 part, it needs to be imported by a revu admin (like sistpoty)04:10
vivid2A70ADF904:10
sistpotyvivid: no that key isn't in revu's keyring... where did you actually send your key to?04:11
sistpoty(since I didn't get a mail from you)04:11
sistpotyvivid: but anyways, please send a signed mail to keyring@tiber.tauware.de, then I'll import your key04:12
vividthe site says to send it to keyserver.ubuntu.com04:12
vividok one sec04:12
marcin`sistpoty: what is po-debconf ?04:12
marcin`sistpoty: can it be set as dependency - debconf?04:13
sistpotyvivid: hehe, that's only one step04:13
vividi must be in too much of a hurry04:13
sistpotymarcin`: po-debconf is afaik the thing for debconf-translations04:13
sistpotymarcin`: what do you mean about the dependency?04:14
marcin`sistpoty: Pre-Depends: debconf | debconf-2.0 something like this?04:14
vividerr, how do i sign an email heh04:14
sistpotymarcin`: urm... why not just a dependency on debconf?04:15
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marcin`sistpoty: there was another issue in lintian then AFAIR04:16
sistpotyvivid: what email-client are you using?04:16
vividi found the how-to thingy in the wiki04:17
sistpotyvivid: :)04:17
sistpotymarcin`: imo debconf as pre-depends should suffice, since debconf-2.0 is provided by debconf... (but I'm not sure wether that's true for debian/testing as well)04:18
sistpotymarcin`: but it looks sane04:18
vividwhat should the subject be?04:19
sistpotyvivid: a nice one... I like recieving mails with nice subjects (just kidding)04:19
sistpotyvivid: s.th. like key for revu04:19
vividand you just want the public key block in it right?04:20
sistpotyvivid: no, I want the mail to be signed by you... I can figure the keyid from that04:21
vividok, well i put the keyblock it, but its signed anyway so it should be good04:21
sistpotyvivid: doesn't really matter ;)04:21
marcin`sistpoty: you said that I should put Cpyright.txt to debian/copyright?04:21
marcin`sistpoty: have you sean it's content?04:21
sistpotymarcin`: I browsed through it... probably append it to the bottom of debian/copyright04:22
marcin`sistpoty: there is GPL license 2.1 there PHP License..04:22
marcin`sistpoty: mysql and few more....04:22
sistpotymarcin`: you can strip the GPL from it... but you need to mention what's covered in by gpl04:22
sistpotymarcin`: you can strip only licences that are under /usr/share/common-licenses04:23
ajmitchmarcin`: what's covered by thte php license?04:23
marcin`ajmitch: propably nothing04:24
ajmitchI hope so04:24
ajmitchotherwise ftp-master will probably reject it04:24
ajmitchhttp://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html04:24
marcin`ajmitch: aaaah I know why its there04:24
marcin`ajmitch: it's because installation package for windows containst php and apache bundled in single package04:25
ajmitchand are you shipping any of that source?04:25
marcin`ajmitch: no04:25
marcin`you know in windows they wanted to provide 'single click' installation04:26
marcin`so they bundled apache/php/mysqlserver+vtiger04:26
sistpotymarcin`: if nothing is covered by the source or binary by a license, you can of course remove that one as well04:27
marcin`this license definetly needs more work04:28
marcin`this guy ArneBosse is vtiger developer04:28
sistpotyoh, nice04:28
marcin`and he stripped everything he could04:28
fbond|awaydolson: here?04:28
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dolsonfbond: always04:29
marcin`from license - he propably wanted to hmm hide sugarcrm license somewhere deep under04:29
fbondno kidding...i think you just may be here always04:29
ajmitchmarcin`: filed an ITP/RFP for it in debian?04:29
marcin`ajmitch: unfortunately he filed ITP04:29
ajmitchhe?04:30
marcin`ArneBosse04:30
marcin`(icr nick)04:30
ajmitchok04:30
ajmitchand does he have packages also?04:30
marcin`http://fboudra.free.fr04:30
marcin`his web page04:30
marcin`what do you mean - 'does he have' ?04:31
ajmitchjust that04:31
ajmitchhe filed an ITP, has he worked on packages?04:31
marcin`no we work together on this package04:31
ajmitchthen why is it unfortunate that he has filed the ITP?04:31
marcin`we started independent - there is bounty in launchpad04:31
marcin`because he was first :)04:32
ajmitchyes I saw the package & even though about packaging it myself04:32
marcin`and afaik debian packages are more important than these in ubuntu04:32
marcin`while I didn't want to make package for debian - I don't use debian - just ubuntu04:32
fbonddolson: eh, i was looking at packaging freecycle04:33
marcin`and I didn't know about ITP and things like that04:33
ViViDif debian updated a little more..04:33
fbondthere is an ITP, however04:33
fbondI will get in touch with the ITP creator04:33
fbondhe already has packages made...I wonder why they aren't in Debian yet04:33
fbondnm04:33
fbondnight04:33
marcin`anyway this package is collaborative work04:33
dolsonfbond: oh yeah? cool..04:33
marcin`fbond: where are these packages?04:34
fbondhttp://piem.org/debian/04:35
fbondi actually already did all the modifications necessary for dapper04:35
fbondi was almost done when I decided I should probably check for an ITP04:35
fbond:)04:35
sistpotyViViD: sorry, my universities mailserver seems to do weird things atm... didn't get your mail yet (but you sent it to the right place, I just went through the logs)04:36
marcin`fbond: are you talking about vtiger packages?04:36
fbondmarcin: nope, we got our wires crossed04:36
marcin`:)04:37
fbondeh, happens :)04:37
fbondlater, y'all04:37
marcin`sorry :)04:37
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TheMusoc04:42
TheMusowrong window sorry04:42
dolsoncya fbond|away04:43
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dolsonfbond|away: whoa... ldrum looks sweeeet04:45
TheMusoldrum?04:46
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ViViDsistpoty: any luck with that email yet?05:05
sistpotyViViD: not really... give me a sec pls.05:06
sistpotyViViD: seems like it finally made tiber's MTA... so it should be here in a few seconds ;)05:07
sistpotymade it past tiber's mta even05:07
ajmitchsistpoty: want me to import it?05:07
ajmitchI got it awhile ago05:07
sistpotyajmitch: go for it ;)05:08
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sistpotyhehe05:08
ajmitchgpg: key 2A70ADF9: public key "John Augustine <jaugustine@vivnet.net>" imported05:13
sistpotyViViD: congrats... you can upload to revu now ;)05:13
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LaserJockhi minghua05:17
minghuahello LaserJock05:18
ViViDsistpoty: am i able to upload .deb packages, or just sources05:21
sistpotyViViD: only sourcepackage with orig.tar.gz05:21
sistpoty(i.e. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S -sa)05:21
ViViDthats what i sent, the changes file like it said05:21
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ajmitchbefore or after your key was imported?05:23
sistpotyViViD: revu runs over the incoming queue every */10, maybe it isn't processed yet05:23
sistpoty(minutes)05:24
ajmitchno, it is there05:24
ajmitchhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=199005:24
ajmitchit's done as a native package though05:25
ajmitchplenty of comments for sistpoty to make on this one ;)05:25
sistpotyhehe, it's in my queue ;)05:25
ViViDsistpoty: one of them is up, the other isnt, maybe you can tell me if it was rejected?05:25
ajmitchViViD: not rejected, retry with dput -f05:26
ViViDat least the required libraries got on05:26
ViViDso now after two people review it, it gets put into universe?05:27
ajmitchafter 2 people check that everything is ok05:27
ajmitchit looks like there'll be a bit of fixing to do05:27
ajmitchfirstly I can see that it isn't versioned properly, it ought to be 0.2-0ubuntu105:29
ViViDive never seen a source versioned that way05:29
ajmitchand that there are still a lot of unneeded .ex files in debian/05:29
ViViDthats what dh_make put in05:29
ajmitchyes05:29
ajmitchand you can't just use dh_make as-is05:29
ajmitchyou need to clean up after it & only use the things you need05:29
ViViDthe actual program has no bugs, and this is my first source package05:30
ViViDi updated the files, didnt know i was supposed to delete stuff05:30
ajmitchyes, and you also need to cleanup debian/rules to take out rules you don't need05:30
ViViDso i need to delete all the unneeded stuff, and change the version, anything else?05:30
ajmitchplenty else05:30
ajmitchthis is just a quick overview :)05:31
ViViDlike i said this is my first time making source packages, i have a million binary debs on my server05:31
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ViViDso can i edit from the site, or do i need to change and re-upload05:32
sistpotyViViD: you'll need to change and reupload05:32
ajmitchwhen I say that it should be 0.2-0ubuntu1, I mean that you have a libpar_0.2.orig.tar.gz05:33
ajmitchand then you add on the debian directory, and put that version in the changelog05:34
ViViDi have the libpar2_0.2.orig.tar.gz05:34
ViViDso i put that inside the package? parrallel to the debian dir?05:34
ViViDand then change the version to comply05:34
ajmitchoutside the package05:34
ajmitchwhy is the package source named libpar2?05:35
ViViDbecause its a library for par2's05:35
ajmitchok05:35
ViViDhence gpar205:35
ajmitchso that's not part of the SONAME05:35
ViViDpar1 is deprecated yet it will work05:35
ajmitchwhich will make naming the binary package fun05:35
ajmitchwhat is a par2?05:36
ViViDbinary should be libpar2_0.2-0ubuntu1_arch.deb05:36
ViViDits a recovery volume set05:36
ViViDfor repairing files, or groups of files that have become corrupted, or checking that they are not corrupted05:37
ajmitchno, binary should have the SOVERSION in the name as well05:37
ViViD?05:37
sistpotyViViD: check the debian library packaging guide, it explains it better than I could (but ajmitch can explain it even better I guess *g*)05:37
ajmitchreading that is probably best, before I try & explain05:38
sistpotyhehe05:38
minghuadefoma is a monster :-(05:38
minghuaand a monster few people understand for that05:38
ajmitchminghua: 'here be dragons;05:38
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ViViDk, the so is libpar2.so05:39
ViViDand its version is 0.2, same as the package05:39
ajmitchSONAME is different05:39
sistpotyViViD: the soname is *inside* libpar2.so (objdump -p libpar2.so | grep -i soname)05:39
ajmitchit's a name for binary compatibility05:40
ViViDthat gives me no output05:41
sistpotyViViD: the soname describes compatibility... e.g. if version 2 and version 3 share the same soname, it means that you can exchange these two (because every public function has the same signature and the same semantics, but might be implemented differently)05:41
sistpotyViViD: probably -P, don't know it by heart ;)05:42
ViViDmust not be set, guess ill release a v0.2.105:42
ajmitchall this complex library stuff needs to be right, and it's one of the reasons why maintaining library packages isn't simple05:43
ViViDand i need to reference the soname in the binary source?05:44
ajmitchthe binary package name has it05:45
minghuawe have a packager whose first package is a shared library here?05:45
sistpotyViViD: yes... otherwise all packages that depend on a specific shared object would cease to work, if you update that shared object to a newer (incompatible) version05:45
sistpotyminghua: iirc lfittl also did a library quite early, and he did it quite well afaikt05:46
ajmitchminghua: yep05:46
minghuasistpoty: my first package is a package with both program and shared library :-)05:46
sistpotyminghua: nice :)05:47
minghuaand I didn't get it correct the first time, actually far from correct05:47
minghuas/is/was/05:47
ViViDok soname is libpar2.so.005:48
ajmitchso the binary package name might be libpar2-005:48
ViViDso the package would be libpar20_v_arch right?05:48
minghuaViViD: you need libpar2-0 as package name then05:48
ViViDok -005:48
ajmitchand you'd still have something like 0.2-0ubuntu1 in the changelog05:48
ViViDnow, i just set the dependency of gpar2 to libpar2-0 instead of libpar2?05:49
minghuaViViD: read http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html, it will help :-)05:49
ViViDi believe im already there05:49
sistpotyViViD: no... the dependency of gpar should be generated05:49
ajmitchwhich means you'll need to do the shlibs fun05:50
sistpotyajmitch: gpar2 is a different sourcepackage ;)05:50
ajmitchsistpoty: I'm aware of that05:51
sistpotyahhh... ;)05:51
ajmitchbut any shared library package has to have the shlibs info in it05:51
minghuaokay, a question about maintainer's scripts05:52
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minghuaif a -2 version package want to get rid of something -1 left05:52
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minghuaI should add a .preinst script for -2, see if it's upgrading, compare versions, and do my clean-up if the version is smaller than -105:53
minghuadoes that sound correct?05:53
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ajmitchsomething like that, I guess :)05:54
crimsunmostly. If only -1 has the issue, then checking for -1 is not semantically what you want.05:54
sistpotyminghua: no idea really05:54
crimsunerr, checking for < -105:54
minghuacrimsun: I believe all versions < -1 has this problem05:55
crimsunah, ok05:55
minghuaokay, since no objections, I'll try this05:56
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minghuaand downgrading won't work properly because of the same problem with my local new package (incomplete fix), arrrrgh05:58
sistpotydolson: around? omins extended-description line extends 80 charachters... may I fix it and upload (since it's nice the way it is)06:04
sistpotys/extends/exceeds/06:04
dolsonsistpoty: dang06:04
dolsonsistpoty: yes, go ahead. I'll fix locally too06:04
sistpotydolson: ok, will do ;)06:05
dolsonthanks :)06:05
sistpoty;)06:05
dolsonsistpoty: hey, how come it says Ubuntu Installer on the dapper-changes list for most of my packages? is this because you modified them so it goes to this default name or something?06:06
crimsunit's because your e-mail isn't known to katie06:07
dolsonwell one of my first packages shows up as my name?06:07
sistpotycrimsun: there is no katie any longer in the soyuz new world order06:07
sistpotydolson: when/which package?06:07
crimsunhmph? dang.06:07
sistpotydolson: soyuz is currently still evolving, maybe they changed that part... but I would only count as a person who changed the package, if I updated/appended debian/changelog06:08
dolsonsistpoty: well, seq24 shows my name, although I am not the maintainer... maybe that's why I guess that's the only one06:08
ViViDok ive updated the lib package, its now libpar2-0_0.2-0ubuntu1 with .ex remove, updated rules, and shlibs06:09
sistpotydolson: ah, 12.Feb... a change in soyuz I guess06:10
dolsonsistpoty: no biggie, I was just curious. makes it harder for me to search the page for my name :)06:10
sistpotydolson: maybe s.o. in #launchpad knows the details ;)06:11
sistpotydolson: just from a sweep through the changes-ml, looks like it's restricted to ppl. of ubuntu-dev and ubuntu-core-dev group06:12
dolsonah06:12
ViViDand the binary is updated, anything i need to do please let me know so i can do it06:14
sistpotydolson: omins is upped06:14
sistpotyViViD: I'll take a look ;)06:14
dolsonsistpoty: cool deal :)06:14
sistpotybtw.: I hope that nobody will ever ask in which order the packages are listed on revu06:15
sistpoty*g*06:15
ViViDsistpoty: can you remove the libpar2 (non libpar2-0) package i put on there?06:16
sistpotyViViD: sure06:16
ViViDthanks06:16
ajmitchsistpoty: what is the order? :)06:16
dolsonsistpoty: I was thinking of asking that earlier.. but I come to the conclusion it's semi-random, but ordered by # of advocates as well06:16
sistpotyViViD: why did you change the name of the sourcepackage?06:16
minghuasistpoty: I was just going to ask the same question :-)06:17
sistpotyajmitch, dolson, minghua: it was a suggestion from \sh_away... but I don't recall it exactly any longer... was s.th. like first order: updated packages already in ubuntu/new packages, second order good/need work packages, third order number of advocates and fourth order number of total comments (or uploads?)06:19
ViViDi changed it to match the package, the version stuff is added by debuild06:19
ajmitchViViD: the binary package name needed change, but not the source package name06:19
ViViDi cant get it to take my orig.tar.gz unless its inside the tar.gz06:19
sistpotyViViD: the name of the sourcepackage should match the name upstream gave it (unless that's taken already)06:20
ViViDthe source package is autogenerated with whatever version is in the changelog06:20
ajmitchyes, and you didn't need to change that06:20
ajmitchthe binary package name is in debian/control06:21
sistpotyViViD: no... the name of the sourcepackage doesn't change... it's always the thing in debian/control (after Source:)06:21
ajmitchit was just the version number that needed changed in debian/changelog06:21
ViViDi changed that06:21
ViViDand it gave me the libpar2_ubuntublah gz06:21
ViViDso version in changelog needs the ubuntu tag?06:22
sistpotyViViD: exactly06:22
ViViDok, so how do i stop it from building that gz with it...06:23
sistpotyajmitch, dolson, minghua: there is the tiny sql-statement responsible for revu-ordering: http://revu.tauware.de/~sistpoty/foo/index.py.txt06:24
sistpoty(upload_rows)06:24
ViViDso my gz should come out as libpar2-0.2.tar.gz right?06:24
ajmitchno06:24
ajmitchwell06:24
sistpotyViViD: it06:25
ajmitchyou should have libpar2_0.2.orig.tar.gz06:25
ViViDoh, you mean i added the -0 to the source pkg name06:25
sistpotyViViD: it'06:25
ajmitchand then a libpar2-0.2 directory06:25
sistpotyargs... damn enter key06:25
ajmitchthe orig.tar.gz name has to match the source package name06:25
dolsonah cool06:25
sistpotyViViD: it should always be called sourcepackagename_upstreamversion.orig.tar.gz06:25
ajmitchas sistpoty says :)06:25
ViViDyea i have that, but it doesnt upload it06:25
minghuaViViD: dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa06:26
ViViDthats what im doing and it gives me a changes, dsc, build and a updated tgz06:26
ViViDthen when i dput the changes it uploads the dsc, changes and updated tgz06:27
ajmitchuse ls, show us what is going on06:27
sistpotyViViD: is there a .upload file left behind?06:27
sistpotyViViD: then you'll need dput -f06:27
ViViDyes06:27
ViViDand it didnt ask to be forced, didnt overwrite anything cuz i changed the name to libpar2-006:28
ViViDwell and the version06:28
ajmitchyou've changed the source package name back to libpar2?06:28
ViViDthe way i thought it should be is libpar2_0.2.tar.gz, libpar2_0.2.orig.tar.gz and the other files06:29
ajmitchyou shouldn't need libpar2_0.2.tar.gz06:29
ViViDer, thats the debian source package06:29
ajmitch?06:30
ViViDthat gz contains the debian subdirectory06:30
ViViDbut debuild produces libpar2-0_0.2-0ubuntu1.tar.gz06:31
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ViViDagreed06:31
ajmitchyou should have libpar2_0.2.orig.tar.gz & a directory libpar2-0.2 in one place, right?06:31
ajmitchno tar.gz should have the debian stuff in it06:32
ViViDyea i started with libpar2_0.2.orig.tar.gz and an extracted libpar2-0.2 which i added the debian stuff to on my desktop06:32
ajmitchthat's fine06:33
ViViDwhen i run debuil -S -sa from the libpar2-0.2 dir it gives me libpar2-0_0.2-0ubuntu1.changes, dsc, build, and tar.gz06:33
ajmitchbut you've still got the source package named wrong06:33
ViViDyea i changed the source line in control back to libpar206:33
ajmitchdebian/changelog also06:34
ViViDso only Package in control should be libpar2-006:34
ajmitchyes06:34
ViViDthe version in changelog needs 0.2-0ubuntu1?06:34
ajmitchand you'll also have to add in a section for libpar2-dev in debian/control later06:34
ajmitchyes06:34
ajmitchand the distribution must be dapper, not unstable06:35
ajmitchwhich you already have, I see06:35
ViViDyea thats what i use anyway06:35
ViViDits only only install cd that has my sata drivers in the kernel06:35
ViViDso i should be getting libpar2-0_0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes,dsc and libpar2-0.2.orig.tar.gz06:37
ViViD?06:37
ajmitchno06:38
ajmitchlibpar2-0_0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes looks like it still has the source package named as libpar2-006:38
ViViDi havent updated it yet06:38
ViViDer uploaded it06:38
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ViViDk now ive got libpar2_0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes,dsc, and tar.gz06:40
ajmitchtar.gz or orig.tar.gz?06:41
ViViDand the binary should be build as libpar2-006:41
ajmitchwhat is your orig.tar.gz named?06:41
ViViDlibpar2-0.2.orig.tar.gz06:41
ajmitch- must be _06:41
ajmitchso libpar2_0.2.orig.tar.gz06:42
sistpotyhm... speechd-up contains an info-page, which is dual licensed GFDL + GPL, debian/copyright has only GPL in it... would this be a blocker?06:42
ajmitchsistpoty: I'd say so06:42
ajmitchbut I'm pedantic06:43
ViViDok thats changed, now it should upload it with the others?06:43
ajmitchViViD: what files are produced now?06:43
ViViDi have libpar2_0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes,dsc,build,tar.gz and libpar2_0.2.oirg.tar.gz06:44
sistpotyajmitch: but OTOH the info page displays the license when viewed... (and even contains the full license)06:44
ajmitchsistpoty: everything should still be listed in debian/copyright06:44
sistpotyajmitch: ok06:44
ViViDit still doesnt send my orig.tar.gz though06:45
dolsonwhoa, Dapper will have a GUI installer?06:45
ViViDso far it has a gui progress bar at the beginning06:46
sistpotyTheMuso: read that part about debian/copyright? ;)06:46
ajmitchViViD: what files are produced by debuild, please?06:46
ViViDbut the rest is standard06:46
=== dolson hopes it's not slow like the Mandrake installer that was introduced around 9.0 or so
TheMusosistpoty: Yes.06:47
sistpotyTheMuso: and it FTBFS :(06:47
sistpotyTheMuso: probably lack of build-dependency on autotools-dev06:47
TheMusoFTBFS?06:47
sistpotyfails to build from source06:47
ViViDdebuild -S -sa gave me libpar2_0.2-0ubuntu1_source.changes, libpar2_0.2-0ubuntu1.dsc, libpar2_0.2-0ubuntu1_source.build and libpar2_0.2-0ubuntu1.tar.gz, and i have my libpar2_0.2.orig.tar.gz which i started with06:47
TheMusoRight.06:47
TheMusosistpoty: In pbuilder?06:48
sistpotyTheMuso: yep06:48
ajmitchsomething is still broken there06:48
TheMusoOk. u.a.c has been so broken I haven't been able to properly check. DOing so now.06:48
TheMusothanks :)06:48
ViViDajmitch: take a look at my control and changlog, its uploaded06:48
sistpotyTheMuso: yep. autotools-dev seems to do the trick (at least it's going past the failure)06:49
TheMusoRighto.06:49
TheMusoUpdating pbuilder and will try again...06:50
ajmitchViViD: when you do debuild -S -sa, do you see dpkg-source: building libpar2 using existing libpar2_0.2.orig.tar.gz06:52
ajmitch?06:52
ViViDi got it06:53
ViViDnow it uploaded orig.tar.gz and diff.gz as wel06:53
ajmitchok06:53
sistpotyTheMuso: please check all documentation files for copyright... iirc the .tex is still a little bit different than the other two files06:54
sistpotyTheMuso: apart from that I'm happy with it06:54
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TheMusosistpoty: Want me to re-upload?06:54
sistpotyTheMuso: would be nice06:54
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TheMusonp06:55
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LaserJockhi monzie06:57
monzieHi LaserJock06:58
monziefinall the Ebuntu packages are ready LaserJock06:58
ajmitchmonzie: really? you've got all the e17 packages done & ready to upload into ubuntu?06:59
monzieno ajmitch , i got the e17 binary packages ready07:00
ajmitchah07:00
monziethey can be installed over a clean breezy install now to get e1707:00
ajmitchcheckinstall again?07:00
monzieyup07:00
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monziei hope some ppl download it , test it and offer some help for packaging07:00
jsgotangco\o/ ajmitch \o/07:01
ViViDyay, i got the other one set too now finally made some progress here07:01
TheMusoOk speechd-up is uploaded with build-deps adjusted.07:02
ajmitchreportbug really needs fixed to not target ubuntu-users07:03
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sistpotyTheMuso: the copyright as well?07:03
zakamehello MOTUs07:03
sistpotyhi zakame07:03
TheMusoThat was fixed in the previous upload. It probably won't show on revu straight away.07:03
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TheMusosistpoty: Oh sorry, what is not complete about the copyright?07:04
TheMusosorry my bad. Mised it. :S07:04
sistpotyTheMuso: no, you'll also need to add the copyright info from the .tex .texi and .info files07:05
sistpoty(that's the reason I begged for another upload, the other change would have been trivial)07:05
TheMusoRight.07:05
TheMusoSorry, been working on casper/a11y stuff today, and my mind is a bit fuzzy after having to do a crash course in bzr. :)07:05
monzieanybody from ubuntu-cn here?07:06
LaserJockajmitch: what about reportbug?07:06
ajmitchLaserJock: it files bugs at the users mailing list07:06
LaserJockugghh07:06
LaserJockI've never tried it for Ubuntu, only Debian07:07
TheMusoI don't see anything new copyright wise that I missed in the info file.07:07
sistpotyTheMuso: the info-file itself is dual-licensed by gfdl and gpl07:08
TheMusoRight. Just saw that.07:08
TheMusosistpoty: You guys must to a grep -ir on the directory for copyright right? :)07:09
LaserJockmonzie: you should really work on getting source packages made for Ebuntu, then we can really test E17.07:09
zakameajmitch: right, to ubuntu-users, just tried that yesterday to file a bug for masqmail (which I should be doing now)07:10
sistpotyTheMuso: that's how I do it07:10
TheMusoThought so.07:10
zakamemonzie: heya, how's the e17 packaging going?07:10
monziehi zakame07:14
monziegot the binary packgaes ready07:14
monzietrying to get some location to upload it , it07:14
monzieit's 35 MB07:15
monzieLaserJock, i have never done packaging before, and07:16
monziethere are so many libs and deps that everything is getting confusing07:17
monziebut i am still trying, eet and evas are ready07:17
TheMusoOk, try again. If not happy this time, shoot me. :)07:17
ajmitchmonzie: will you put eet & evas up for review?07:17
monzieis there a point ajmitch ? FF is today , isn't it?07:18
ajmitchyes, you get comments & corrections07:18
monzieand those libs are for E17 only, they have no other use07:18
ajmitchso that you learn more about packaging07:18
ajmitchit's still worth doing it07:18
LaserJockmonzie: putting stuff on REVU should really help07:19
monzieokay, i'll do it, but first i have to upload my bin packages07:19
ajmitcheven if we don't get things into dapper, they could still be ready for upload once dapper+1 opens07:19
jsgotangcodon't rush :)07:19
ajmitchinstead of spending 2 months getting things right & missing dapper+1 freezes07:19
zakameyep07:19
monzieya , thanks ajmitch , i am really doing all i can07:19
monziethanks LaserJock07:19
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sistpotyhehe, I guess the review often is sometimes a problem with the number of packages on revu07:21
ajmitchtrue :)07:22
ajmitchbut that's because I'm lazy & don't review the thousands of packages like you do07:22
zakameajmitch++07:22
sistpotyhehe... I am lazy as well, I should get some stupid work done, but I prefer reviewing ;)07:24
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sistpoty*g*07:24
zakameheh07:25
tepsipakkisistpoty: whoa, thanks for the comments!07:25
sistpotytepsipakki: you're welcome07:25
tepsipakkiI'm almost done with libgssapi07:26
ajmitchsistpoty: I'll need to get you to review some of mine :)07:26
sistpotyTheMuso: 1999 doesn't fix the copyright thing yet... you'll need to mention the GFDL/GPL dual license (and propably cite the complete GFDL)07:26
ajmitchwhy cite the GFDL in its entirety?07:27
sistpotyajmitch: review packages from you or packages you'd have to review?07:27
ajmitchhm, I thought it was in common-licenses07:27
sistpotyajmitch: can it be referred to?07:27
ajmitchsistpoty: review packages I've made07:27
LaserJockajmitch: GFDL isn't installed locally so it has to be all there07:27
zakamegaah07:27
sistpotyajmitch: bah... I wouldn't find a thing, and if I would I'd think I'm wrong ;)07:28
LaserJockhmm, but what is being GFDL'd. it's not DFSG free.07:28
sistpotyTheMuso: maybe you can refer to the GFDL in the info-page (should be in there)... what do other's think?07:28
tepsipakkisistpoty: what did you mean when you said something about -dev packages and dependancies..?07:28
sistpotyLaserJock: it is... dual license GPL/GFDL07:29
ajmitchLaserJock: GFDL+GPL dual-license in this case07:29
ajmitchsistpoty: you don't think I make mistakes??07:29
sistpotytepsipakki: what package?07:29
ajmitchdeluded person07:29
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sistpotyhehe07:29
tepsipakkisistpoty: I'm not sure, you mentioned it here ;)07:29
ajmitchsistpoty: another revu uploader for you to handle07:30
LaserJocksistpoty: can you use a dual license that aren't compatible? I'm not very knowledgable about licenses.07:30
tepsipakkisistpoty: either libgssapi or librpcsecgss07:30
sistpotytepsipakki: just a moment07:30
ajmitchLaserJock: sure07:30
LaserJockajmitch: ok thanks, that seems counterintiutive to me but ok.07:31
ajmitchLaserJock: when the license is applied, you have th choice of which terms it falls under07:31
sistpotyLaserJock: sure... you have the choice which one should apply (as licensee)... dual-license != mixing licenses07:31
LaserJockok, that makes more sense07:31
LaserJockI'm currently fighting with docteam licensing so that is why I asked.07:33
sistpotytepsipakki: at least from my comments I can't see s.th. about -dev dependencies right now07:34
sistpoty(on revu)07:34
tepsipakki03:13 < sistpoty> tepsipakki: and one more thing not listed: the -dev package should depend on all -dev packages needed to satisfy headers in this -dev package (not sure if any of the build-dependencies are needed though)07:34
tepsipakki:)07:34
sistpotytepsipakki: ah... right.07:35
sistpotytepsipakki: if there are other -dev packages needed, when you want to compile s.th. that uses your lib, you'll need to build-depend on these as well07:35
tepsipakkibuild-depend and not install-depend?07:36
sistpotytepsipakki: install-depend ;)07:36
tepsipakkiright ;)07:36
sistpotytepsipakki: example, if there is s.th. like "#include <foobar/foobar.h>" in it, you'd need a dependency on libfoobar-dev07:37
tepsipakkiso, libgssapi-dev should depend on libkrb5-dev, and librpcsecgss-dev should depend on libkrb5-dev and libgssapi-dev07:37
tepsipakki?07:37
sistpotytepsipakki: if these are needed once you want to compile s.th. with the headers from the -dev package: yes07:38
tepsipakkihmm, I'll try grepping07:38
sistpotytepsipakki: (however librb5-dev for librpcsecgss-dev gets drawn in automatically by libgssapi-dev)07:38
tepsipakkithat's true07:39
tepsipakkihmm, doesn't seem that gssapi.h includes anything out of the normal stuff07:40
sistpotythat's good ;)07:40
tepsipakkisame goes for librpcsecgss07:42
sistpoty(I didn't check if anything is in there... was just a wild guess... and only really problematic for libraries on which other libraries depend on)07:42
tepsipakkiyeah, I get it now :)07:42
tepsipakkiabout libgssapi: why should the libgssapi.conffiles be removed?07:43
sistpotytepsipakki: it's a file under /etc... so libgssapi.conffiles will be generated during build. if it's there it's being appended to and you end up having the same conffile in there twice07:43
tepsipakkioh..07:44
tepsipakkiI've built and installed it but it seems normal07:44
sistpotyit *should* work, but lintian gives a warning07:45
tepsipakkiso it seems07:45
tepsipakkiI asked about the versioning here yesterday, and it was told that -1ubuntu1 is the way to go.. upstream is also a debian maintainer so he _could_ upload them to debian if he wants :)07:48
tepsipakkibut now he's just interested how I'm doing .)07:48
tepsipakki:)07:48
sistpotytepsipakki: no, if he'd upload the same stuff to debian, he'd name it -1 (and thus -1ubuntu1 cannot be synced any longer)07:49
tepsipakkihmm ok, true07:50
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sistpotyphew... dawn already breaking... time to go to bed07:57
sistpotygood night everyone07:57
tepsipakkisleep well, I just woke up :)07:57
sistpoty:)07:58
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tepsipakkicp: cannot stat `./debian/gssapi_mech.conf': No such file or directory08:13
tepsipakkidh_install: command returned error code 25608:13
tepsipakkiso, that didn't work08:13
tepsipakkieww, my bad08:16
jsgotangcoajmitch: how bad is checkinstall?08:22
minghuagood question :-)08:24
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jsgotangcothe goals seem sane...08:24
LaserJockbut there is no source. to me that is the main problem. You only get a binary package out. At least that is my understanding08:25
jsgotangcoahh08:26
jsgotangcoit seems convinient for self use08:26
HobbseeLaserJock: that is correct08:26
jsgotangcobut not for general distribution08:26
Hobbseeapparently the dependencies arent done very well, from what i've heard earlier08:26
minghuajsgotangco: if you ask me, I would say it's very, very, very bad :-)08:27
LaserJockI've used it before for some "tweaking" of the gnuplot source package for my own personal use.08:27
ajmitchjsgotangco: Don't Go There08:27
jsgotangcoajmitch: that's why im asking08:27
ajmitchjsgotangco: there are reasons why we go through this pain of packaging08:28
minghuathe thing I hate checkinstall the most is not repeatable at all, it completely depends on the build environment08:28
ajmitchand it's not just a love of self-flagellation08:28
ajmitchminghua: of course, and it's antithetical to a free software distribution08:28
jsgotangcoahh08:28
LaserJockI'm thinking of having something in the Ubuntu Packaging Guide about making quick packages but I think I'll go more towards how to quickly tweak something in the source package and build a .deb08:29
LaserJockI think that is what most users will want08:29
ajmitchit really isn't too hard to make a usable source package08:30
ajmitchfor larger projects, it may be08:30
jsgotangcoajmitch: ok so its good to say that if you're going to use checkinstall, don't even think of distributing your package right?08:30
ajmitchjsgotangco: more or less08:30
ajmitchjsgotangco: or 'for personal consumption only'08:30
ajmitchbrb, trying out more bling08:30
tepsipakkiNow running lintian...08:31
tepsipakkiE: libgssapi1: ldconfig-symlink-missing-for-shlib usr/lib/libgssapi.so.1 usr/lib/libgssapi.so.1.0.0 libgssapi.so.108:31
tepsipakkishould I include the link in .files or not?08:31
tepsipakkiit was, but I removed it08:32
minghuatepsipakki: why are you still using .files?  I heard that is outdated technology08:32
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minghuas/user/use/08:32
tepsipakkiminghua: it's not my idea.. upstream has debian-directory08:33
tepsipakkiactually, there's also a .install08:33
ajmitchah, I guess I'll have to turn on composite extension manually08:34
minghuatepsipakki: upstream has both .files and .install in their tarball?08:34
tepsipakkiminghua: yes..08:34
minghuawell, well, well.08:34
Mithrandirnuke upstream's debian/ and repack the orig.tar.gz, then.08:34
minghuatepsipakki: I would follow Mithrandir's advice08:35
tepsipakkiMithrandir: =) "please ask upstream to provide a package w.o. debian-directory for the next release" as was told by sistpoty08:35
tepsipakkiok, I'll just do that then08:36
tepsipakkimaybe learn to use cdbs in the meantime08:36
Mithrandirtepsipakki: either works.  upstream-provided debian/ directories are evil.08:36
tepsipakkiupstream is also a debian devel :)08:37
Mithrandiris it shipped as a native package?08:37
tepsipakkino08:37
Mithrandirit shouldn't ship debian/ in the orig.tar.gz even if upstream is a DD.08:37
tepsipakkiok, I'll tell him about it08:38
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viviersfajmitch, ping09:13
ajmitchviviersf: pong09:14
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dolsongood morning dholbach09:50
ArmeBossewho is daemon@poleboy.de ?09:51
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dolsonsistpoty? maybe09:51
dholbachArmeBosse: sistpoty09:51
dholbachmorning everybody - hai dolson09:51
ArmeBossethks09:51
dolsonhi zakame09:51
zakamehi all09:52
minghuadholbach: any words about when approved UVF exceptions will get synced from Debian?09:54
dholbachno, unfortunately not - were any packages synced at all?09:54
zakameheya dolson09:59
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minghuadholbach: no idea, I have only one UVF exception :-)10:00
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Tonio__hello10:10
viviersfguys10:11
viviersfwhats an easy way to update the alternatives ?10:11
ArmeBosseupdate-alternatives10:13
viviersfyeh i know that10:13
viviersfi want a easy way of switching between 2 of em10:13
viviersfwithout any user input10:13
viviersfotherwise ill have to make an expect scripts which i dont really want to do10:14
ArmeBossei don't know other easy way, sorry10:15
ArmeBossesomeone know when sistpoty will be back ?10:15
minghuaupdate-alternative can be non-interactive, if that's what you want10:16
TheMusoIt was suggested for one of my packages that I probably need to sight the gfdl. How should I go about it? Do I point to a file on the system somewhere? It is not in the common licenses directory.10:19
TheMusoand does anybody know of a good guide to how one should format their copyright file?10:20
dholbachTheMuso: /usr/share/debhelper/dh_make/licenses/10:25
TheMusodholbach: Thanks.10:27
TheMusodholbach: I don't see it there.10:28
TheMusoOh, sorry.10:28
dholbachdh-make maybe10:28
TheMusoNow I know what you are ferring to.10:28
dholbachsorry10:28
TheMusodholbach: I was told that I might have to reference the gfdl in mine though.10:29
TheMusoThe copyright file for speechd-up is much the same as the gpl licenses in the directory you referred to above.10:30
dholbachand that is not included in the /usr/share/common-licsense10:31
dholbachif you want to be 100% sure, include it10:31
TheMusoNo it isn't.10:32
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TheMusodholbach: WOuld it be ok if I was to point people to the info file in copyright? i.e. say that they can find a copy of the license by running the info program - info speech-dispatcher?10:41
dholbachfor me it would, but not sure if that's commonly accepted/approved *shrug*10:42
dholbachyou might ask in #ubuntu-devel10:43
TheMusohmm ok.10:43
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_mindspinHi, I was sent here to ask which versioning software is used by the kernel developers?10:46
GloubiboulgaCould anyone have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1971 ?10:47
TheMuso_mindspin: git10:49
_mindspinthanks10:49
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dholbachGloubiboulga: we don't seem to have netswitch, do we?10:50
TheMusoOk, if there are any MOTUs available, I kindly ask you to look at speechd-up on revu. I have just finished uploading it again, and the copyright file is the only thing that needs checking, so I am lead to believe. Thanks.10:50
Gloubiboulgadholbach, not yet10:50
dholbachhrm10:50
Gloubiboulgait's been uploaded yesterday10:51
dholbachI'd formulate  configure.in's   gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0   in debian/control10:51
dholbach(but that's not ultra urgent)10:52
dholbachwhat about the segfault?10:52
Gloubiboulgadholbach, I can't reproduce the segfault on my dapper box, nor in a chroot10:52
GloubiboulgaTonio_, tested it to, it works fine on his box10:53
Gloubiboulgas/to/too10:53
dholbachapart from that it looks good so far10:53
Tonio_very nice ;)10:57
Gloubiboulgathanks Tonio_ , but you've done the biggest part iirc ;)10:58
Tonio_Gloubiboulga: I did the *simplest* part :)11:02
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ArmeBosseajmitch: ping11:37
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tepsipakkicdbs is lovely... life is not the same after using it :)11:47
freeflyinglooking for review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=200411:55
tepsipakkifreeflying: remove extra whitespace from the description lines :)11:58
freeflyingtepsipakki: thx11:59
freeflyingtepsipakki: anymore?11:59
tepsipakkifreeflying: there should be only one in the beginning of each line. I don't know about the indents11:59
freeflyingtepsipakki: each line in details shall indent12:00
tepsipakkifreeflying: yes but only one whitespace, in the diff there seems to be two, but lintian is not complaining hmmm..12:01
freeflyingtepsipakki: ok, I'll correct it12:02
tepsipakkibut I'm not a qualified reviewer, so there might be more..12:02
freeflyingtepsipakki: :)12:03
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Gloubiboulgadholbach, I've updated the gnetswitch package and reuploaded it12:15
dholbachtwo times libgkt2.0-dev12:15
dholbachbut nm12:15
tepsipakkiW: libnfsidmap1: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libnfsidmap012:16
tepsipakkiis that worrying?12:16
dholbachi'd name it <0> then - what's the library name it ships?12:16
tepsipakkilibnfsidmap.so.0.1.012:17
Gloubiboulgadamn...12:17
dholbachso that's libnfsidmap0 as a package name12:17
tepsipakkithe problem is that libnfsidmap1 is already in the archive..12:17
dholbachand upstream switched back to .0?12:17
tepsipakkiI don't think they ever were at .112:17
dholbachso you updated a package?12:18
tepsipakkiyes12:18
tepsipakki0.8 is in now12:18
tepsipakkithis is 0.1212:18
dholbachif you biuld the package, be sure to inspect it (i use mc for that) and look at the shlibs file and see if it's alright12:18
dholbachelse you should probably stick to it12:18
dholbachso not worry about lintian12:19
dholbachI'd just talk to the Debian maintainer and ask for his reasoning12:19
tepsipakkithat's upstream as well (J. Bruce Fields)12:19
tepsipakkimaybe I'll ignore this for now. someone should review the package btw =)12:20
tepsipakkithese three packages (libnfsidmap, libgssapi, librpcsecgss) are all pretty similar, and I've made changes per instructions from sistpoty12:23
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tepsipakkiok, new versions of libnfsidmap, libgssapi, librpcsecgss: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2005 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2010 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=200801:16
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YagisanG'day All - how are you today ?01:29
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slomohi Yagisan :)01:30
YagisanG'day slomo - how's your day been ? I had fun fixing the fedora box from hell01:31
slomoi had fun writing a math exam that was far more easy than i thought :)01:33
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Yagisanslomo:  the fedora box was fun. It is in New Zealand, I'm not, and the problem is the link, and routing between the two. And someone put a fax on the backup modem line to the NZ server, just to make it more fun.01:38
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marcin`when is dapper package freeze?01:39
marcin`I know that 23.02 but what timezone?01:39
tsengwhy is ubuntu-desktop depending on xscreensaver anyway01:40
slomoYagisan: sounds exactly like that kind of job where one looses his sanity at some point :)01:40
tsengah just the data01:40
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Yagisanslomo: I think someone did - the contractors freaked, and someone had the bright idea to be knocking on my door at 8:30am yesterday morning to get me over to subcontract it01:41
Yagisanslomo: somthing about me being the only linux guy they new that could a) get in, and b) fix it01:42
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Yagisansiretart: thanks for the heads-up on the openal transition on d-d-a. No API changes ? a simple rebuild will be ok ?01:47
siretartYagisan: I think so. (it was 'just' on d-d, since I'm not a DD)01:48
Yagisansiretart: yes it was d-d - I'm tried and making typos. thanks - I will need to rebuild my private repos when the transition starts.01:50
dolsonhmm01:51
siretartYagisan: which of your packages is affected? did you consider joining the debian games team?01:53
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Yagisansiretart: deng - the one that upstream is correctly licensing and/or re-writing at last :)01:54
siretartYagisan: ah, I remember.01:54
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Yagisansiretart: I haven't really considered the games team, I honestly don't have much time for games anymore, so I can't test them as much as I should01:55
siretartYagisan: perhaps you can import your packages in the alioth svn. I think that would be more convinient for reviewing/working on them01:55
siretartYagisan: thats okay. no problem01:55
YagisanI'll certainly reconsider if I get more time, but -media, my private repo, and my security/hardened stuff takes up most free time I have now.01:56
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dolsonhmm02:06
Yagisandolson: what's on your mind ?02:08
dolsonI don't know02:08
dolsonI guess I just wish I were a MOTU so I could've helped get through those packages02:09
Yagisandolson: well, I'm no MOTU, but I try to help. I try to pay attention to motu-media packages, and security related work02:12
siretartdolson: just do motu stuff, you'll get upload priviledges sooner than you think02:13
Yagisandolson: I try to post patches (either my badly made, or shamelessly stolen), or at least instructions if I can, even just diagnosing why a bug happens is helpful02:14
dolsondon't mind me, I'm just being selfish though02:15
Yagisandolson: don't worry, I'm sure we can help you be more selfish too ;)02:17
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Seveasany MOTU around?02:54
Seveassiretart, poke02:55
nomedthere are pkges that have a /var/lib/dpkg/info/<pkge>.conffiles03:01
nomedif i remove them those files are still in thei folder03:02
nomedif i reinstall that <pkge> those files are not installed again ...03:02
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nomedany reason ?03:02
nomedif i remove them <-- if i apt-get remove <pkge> ...03:03
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dolsonnomed: that is how it is supposed to be isn't it?03:06
YagisanSeveas: why do you need a MOTU ? perhaps one of us can help03:06
zakameevening MOTUs!03:06
dolsonnomed: if you want to remove them, then apt-get remove --purge03:06
nomeddolson, yes03:06
nomedok03:07
nomedi would fix xfdesktop403:07
nomedas it doesn't remove the conf files on purge03:07
zakameSeveas: what's up?03:07
SeveasYagisan, bug 6585, should an UVF exception+sync be requested?03:07
Ubugtumalone bug 6585 in nut "Hotplug dependency in nut-usb package" [Major,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/658503:07
YagisanG'day zakame03:07
nomedand it doesn't reinstall those files if they don't exist anymore03:07
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nomedfor ex if user deleted them03:07
nomeddolson, is there any pkge that could be a good sample where i can take a look ?03:08
dolsonyou're asking the wrong guy03:08
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YagisanSeveas: I can't see a list of bugs it fixes.03:09
zakameheya Yagisan, what's up?03:09
freeflyinglooking for reviewer :http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=200403:10
Yagisanzakame: fixing b0rk fedora boxes in kiwi land03:10
nlindbladafternoon masters03:10
zakameYagisan: whoa03:10
zakameheya nlindblad03:11
nlindbladzakame: how are you?03:11
Yagisanzakame: it will make a good story when done. summary is box has routing issues, badly maintained, etc, and I needed to log in remotely to fix it. oh, and someone put a fax on the modem line.03:12
zakameYagisan: gaah, blog it! :D03:13
zakamenlindblad: here contemplating on wheter bug 32280 could be fixed directly03:13
Ubugtumalone bug 32280 in masqmail "Doens't start correctly" [Major,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/3228003:13
nlindbladzakame: okey03:14
YagisanSeveas: ok - searched through the bugs. Yes I say this needs a UVF exception to work correctly with 2.6.14+ kernels03:14
Yagisanzakame: did I say it was fedora core 1 - it was like - ick. Configured obviously by someone new too.03:15
zakamedholbach: thanks for checking (and uploading) 32280! :D03:16
SeveasYagisan, could you be so kind as to do this, I'm no motu myself (just triaging bugs)03:16
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dholbachzakame: no problem03:17
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zakameYagisan: ick! blog extra too! :D03:17
jsgotangcoYagisan: very nice....03:18
jsgotangcoso retro03:18
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YagisanSeveas: actually - I'm not a motu either, but it's not too hard to do. I can issue it for you, but I need about 24hrs before I have the time free.03:19
nomedi see it's the same for all the pkges that has a pkge.list file and a pkge.conffiles03:20
Yagisanjsgotangco: well, no one asked if I was a Red Hat guy ...03:20
nomedbut what if during an upgrade the files listed in <pkge>.conffiles are different from older ones ?03:21
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zakamemhz_cook: what's cooking?03:45
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Gloubiboulgazakame, hello03:57
Gloubiboulgazakame, do you have time for a review ?03:57
zakameheya Gloubiboulga, wazup?03:57
zakameGloubiboulga: I'll try :D03:58
Gloubiboulgathanks :)03:58
Gloubiboulgait's gnetswitch : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=200703:58
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Gloubiboulgait needs netswitch to build, which is not in the archives yet03:58
jpatrickGloubiboulga: uploaded yesterday by moi, (package by Tonio_ )04:00
Tonio_jpatrick: you uploaded gnetswitch yesterday ?04:02
jpatrickTonio_: no netswitch04:02
Tonio_ah oki :)04:02
Tonio_what about knetswitch ?04:02
Tonio_raphink approved04:02
Tonio_need a second one to upload :)04:02
jpatrickI think raphink uploaded that04:02
Tonio_nope he ust advocated04:03
jpatrickhmm04:03
Tonio_are there any other emergencies to revu ?04:03
Tonio_I may have one hour of free time just now04:03
tepsipakkitonio_: yes, please =)04:05
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Tonio_tepsipakki: url ?04:06
tepsipakkiok, new versions of libnfsidmap, libgssapi, librpcsecgss: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2005 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2010 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=200804:06
Tonio_Gloubiboulga: what about gnetswitch ? has it been approved ?04:06
GloubiboulgaTonio_, dholbach approved it, and zakame is checking it04:06
jpatrickTonio_: I don't think he did (otherwise it would of have appeared at lp)04:06
tepsipakkiTonio_: they should be pretty easy, and similar packages04:07
Tonio_tepsipakki: why making usage of debhelper 4 ?04:07
Tonio_just to know ;)04:07
Tonio_Gloubiboulga: perfect, many thanks ;)04:08
GloubiboulgaTonio_, np, and thank you too :)04:08
GloubiboulgaTonio_, I think that Olivier should thank us ;)04:08
tepsipakkiTonio_: in control? is it enough to depend on cdbs only?04:09
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Tonio_Gloubiboulga: hum, we should thank Olivier too hehe04:11
Tonio_tepsipakki: yes, but well, it is nice to use the latest04:11
Tonio_of course I will not give a NO for that reason :) I'm building it actually04:12
tepsipakkiTonio_: the control-file is from upstream, but I made some changes to it04:12
tepsipakkiwhich were suggested04:12
Tonio_oki ;)04:13
zakameGloubiboulga: src/main.c copyright notice needs to go to debian/copyright04:13
Gloubiboulgazakame, which notice are you talking about?04:15
zakameGloubiboulga: from gnetswitch, the copyright snippet in src/main.c04:16
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dolsonTonio_: you could review anything remaining from dana@ubuntustudio.com or forest@alittletooquiet.net, but I think most of them require the dssi-dev that isn't yet sync'd from debian04:17
Gloubiboulgazakame, ok04:17
Gloubiboulgait gpl v2 or later, not gpl v.2, right ?04:18
Tonio_tepsipakki: libgssapi advocated04:19
zakameyeah04:19
Gloubiboulgazakame, do I update the FSF address in debian/copyright ?04:19
Gloubiboulgado I need*04:19
Tonio_dolson: well, already 3 packages to revu, and I have a look after, if I got time for this :)04:19
zakameGloubiboulga: quote directly from the source, even if the address is old04:19
Gloubiboulgaok04:19
dolsonTonio_: no prob. I just saw your message above, that's all :)04:20
zakameGloubiboulga: if it is, ping upstream about it, you don't have to make it your problem ;)04:20
Tonio_Gloubiboulga: I did the change in knetswitch, you can use the same text maybe...04:20
tepsipakkiTonio_: nice, thanks!04:22
Gloubiboulgazakame, do you see other problems ?04:23
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zakameGloubiboulga: attempting a build, hold on04:24
Gloubiboulgaok :)04:24
zakameGloubiboulga: hmm debian/control , rather short description in contrast to what's on the webpage04:25
Tonio_tepsipakki: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=201204:25
zakameGloubiboulga: also, `Homepage' needs a nudge of one space, like ` Homepage:'04:25
Tonio_sorry, I missed something, little improvement needed04:25
jpatrickTonio_: knetswitch advocated04:25
tepsipakkiTonio_: yeah no problem, it was a mistake04:26
Tonio_tepsipakki: correct this and I can advocate04:27
Tonio_jpatrick: cool04:27
tepsipakkiTonio_: I'll make the same changes to the other two as well..04:27
tepsipakkicopyright & compat04:27
Tonio_hurg............ I have a problem with my proxy server..........04:27
Tonio_I posted and I have the information on 2 pages ??????????04:28
Gloubiboulgazakame, so I need 2 spaces in the debian/control file for the Homepage line?04:29
Tonio_tepsipakki: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2012 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=200504:29
Tonio_why is it uploaded twice ?04:29
Tonio_damn ;)04:29
Tonio_which one am I supposed to revu ?04:29
tepsipakkithe latest04:30
zakameGloubiboulga: yes04:30
tepsipakkinew one coming04:30
Tonio_so the advocate is good finally..........;04:30
Tonio_may I archive 2005 and keep 2012 ?04:30
tepsipakkiTonio_: both of them are obsolete =)04:30
Tonio_tepsipakki: yep, but when I post for one the comment appears on both revues.........;04:31
Tonio_kind of bug....04:31
tepsipakkiah, so it seems :)04:32
tepsipakkihttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=201604:32
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jpatrickhmm java...04:44
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trappistwhat to do about a bug that's been fixed for a long time but the bug report never got closed?04:46
jpatrickmalone #2301804:46
Ubugtumalone bug 23018 in iptables "libipt_recent is not there" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/2301804:46
trappistyeah that one04:47
Tonio_tepsipakki: hehe04:47
Tonio_tepsipakki: second package advocated, nice, no problems found04:48
Tonio_building the third one04:48
tepsipakkicool04:49
Tonio_tepsipakki: it is a pain to revu, cause they all depend each other.........04:49
Tonio_;)04:49
tepsipakkihmm, yes, sorry :)04:49
Tonio_tepsipakki: libnfsidmap-0.12 FTBFS........04:52
tepsipakkiargh04:53
tepsipakkimy pbuilder doesn't work so I couldn't test it myself.. but do you have a log somewhere?04:54
Tonio_tepsipakki: yes, sending you the log04:56
tepsipakkithankd04:57
tepsipakkis/d/s/04:57
Tonio_tepsipakki: anyway, this one isn't a NEW package.05:01
Tonio_uploading it will require an uvf exception05:01
Tonio_it is too late for this05:01
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Tonio_re dholbach05:01
Tonio_dholbach: concerning uvf exceptions, will they stop today too, or is there another date ?05:02
tepsipakkiTonio_: yes I know that, but it shouldn't be too late05:03
Tonio_tepsipakki: building again and pasting you the buildlog05:04
tepsipakkiok05:05
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Tonio_tepsipakki: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/56868605:11
Tonio_the build log05:11
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tepsipakkiduh, it gave up pretty easily05:15
tepsipakkiI didn't build a binary myself before.. now it is fixed05:17
tepsipakkiI'll upload it shortly05:18
tepsipakkione line too many in libnfsidmap-dev.install :/05:18
tepsipakkihttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=201905:25
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tepsipakkidoesn't FTBFS anymore05:28
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ArmeBossea revu admin can check why my package doesn't upload : vtigercrm05:40
crimsundholbach: sorry I missed your message yesterday; is it urgent?05:41
nomedok05:44
nomedsuposing i found an error (bug) within a <pkge>.install file ...05:45
nomedwhat should i do ?05:45
nomedshould i just file a bug ...05:45
crimsunfile a bug, and attach a debdiff to the fixed version05:45
LaserJocksend a patch to the maintainer ;-)05:45
nomedor can i even provide a patch for it ?05:45
nomedLaserJock, perfect ..05:45
nomedthen05:45
nomedwhat are the steps i should follow to provide the pacth ?05:46
nomedis there any link that explain this ?05:46
tepsipakkilibgssapi and librpcsecgss needs another advocate =)05:46
LaserJocknomed: file a bug, fix the package and do a debdiff on it and attach the debdiff to the bug report.05:47
nomedLaserJock, k05:47
nomedshould i even run debchange ?05:47
crimsunyes, it makes the application easier05:48
crimsunotherwise we have to manually bump, etc.05:48
jpatricktepsipakki: be there asap05:48
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tepsipakkijpatrick: great, thanks05:50
nomednow a new question ..05:52
nomedi file a bug in launchpad05:52
nomedi work on it05:52
nomedi have a patch05:52
nomedin launchpad that bug has a number05:52
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nomedand it seems i should even run debchange05:52
nomedshould i write even the bug number ?05:53
nomedlike #xxxx fixed05:53
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crimsunnomed: that's most helpful.05:55
tepsipakkijpatrick: thanks for libgssapi ;)05:55
nomedcrimsun, k ...05:56
jpatrickI suppose I'll upload05:56
crimsunsigh, faculty meeting.05:56
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tepsipakkijpatrick: cool, did you look at librpcsecgss?05:57
jpatricktepsipakki: looks good, I'll upload both now05:57
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tepsipakkijpatrick: do you have access to main?-)05:58
jpatrickIt's main?05:58
tepsipakkino, libnfsidmap is05:58
tepsipakkiso it's a new version05:58
jpatrickNo, I became motu recenty (last week)05:58
tepsipakkiheh, ok05:59
tepsipakkibut can you review it? someone else can then upload05:59
tepsipakkiit should be _perfect_ by now06:00
jpatrickwill do06:00
tepsipakkiawesome06:00
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LaserJockraphink: testing something or bad connection?06:03
jpatricktepsipakki: "dpkg-genchanges: warning: missing Section for source files"06:05
jpatricklibgssapi06:06
tepsipakkinoooo..06:06
jpatrickshall I add one quickly before upload?06:06
tepsipakkiyes please!06:07
jpatrickwhich? :)06:07
tepsipakkiI have no idea06:07
tepsipakkilibs?06:07
jpatrickok, it's happy06:08
tepsipakkithe others have the same issue..06:09
jpatrick[ uploaded ] 06:09
tepsipakkiphew06:09
tepsipakkimy ring finger is sore...06:09
tepsipakkiI should leave the keyboard for a day or two06:10
tepsipakkijpatrick: I have to run now.. so thank you again ->06:11
jpatrickok, just doing librpcsecgss06:11
jpatrickdone06:13
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Tonio_Gloubiboulga: has gnetswitch finally been uploaded ?06:32
Gloubiboulganop06:32
Tonio_is there a reason ?06:32
Tonio_I see you have done many uploads06:33
Gloubiboulganop, zakame left without telling me the result of the build06:33
Tonio_is it supposed to be clean ?06:33
Tonio_ah ok.......;06:33
GloubiboulgaTonio_, yes, for minor things each time06:33
GloubiboulgaI think it's ready to go now06:33
Tonio_Gloubiboulga: ok, let me revu06:33
Gloubiboulgaok :)06:33
Tonio_hum........... I can't revu it ;)06:33
Tonio_my own name on it hehe06:33
Gloubiboulgayep, I didn't changed it06:34
Tonio_I can't approve my own stuff....06:34
Tonio_Gloubiboulga: can you find someone to revu ?06:34
Gloubiboulgahum...06:34
Tonio_once done I can upload it, but I can't reasonably revu something that has my name on it :)06:34
Gloubiboulgaany MOTU interested by a REVU? :)06:34
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Gloubiboulgaraphink, ping?06:35
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Tonio_Gloubiboulga: aren't you a motu yourself ?06:37
GloubiboulgaTonio_, no06:38
Tonio_hum06:39
Tonio_we will find someone toonight :)06:39
Gloubiboulgayes! :)06:39
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nomedumm .. ...07:04
nomedhow should i provide a patch for a pkge.install file ?07:04
nomedshould i simply attach a new file ?07:04
LaserJocknomed: if your not up for changing the source package itself you could at least attach an new file. But a debdiff is the easiest for the person making the upload I would  think.07:07
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nomedLaserJock, debdiff doesn't show the diff in debian/pkge.install07:16
nomedthe one i modified ..07:17
LaserJockno?07:17
LaserJockit should07:17
nomedLaserJock, it shows that there are new files installed ..07:17
nomedbut nothing about pkge.install file07:17
LaserJocknomed: ok, what command did you use exactly?07:18
nomedLaserJock, a simple debdiff pkge1.deb pkde2.deb07:18
nomedbut now i supose i shoudl add some options ?07:19
LaserJocknomed: no, you need to debdiff the source package07:19
LaserJocknomed: so debdiff pkge1.dsc pkge2.dsc07:19
nomedk07:19
nomedwell .. it sounds  it has a logic :)07:20
nomedi should get it by myself :)07:20
nomedLaserJock, thanks for your availability07:21
LaserJocknomed: np, just glad I can help :-)07:21
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ViViDgood morning people07:28
jpatrickevening ViViD07:28
ViViDlol, its 10:30 A here07:28
LaserJockhi ViViD, where you from?07:29
ViViDwest coast usa07:29
ViViD-080007:29
LaserJockViViD: cool, I'm in Reno, NV07:29
LaserJock-0800 also07:29
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ViViDthat must suck for saving money07:29
ViViDim in seattle, wa07:29
LaserJockViViD: not really, seeing all the people pushing around carts cause they gambled their house and car away keeps me from the casinos mostly ;-)07:30
ViViDdo they still let you put real money into the slots there? here it sucks cuz you have to put in on a dumb ticket, takes most the fun out of it07:30
LaserJockViViD: no, you can do just about anything you want here when it comes to gambling.07:31
ViViDor at least casino tokens, anything to make ching sounds when it drops into the tray07:31
ViViDjpatrick: where are you that its evening?07:32
jpatrickGirona, Spain07:32
LaserJockViViD: The state legislature just approved roaming gambling machines where you can wander around the casino with a handheld device ;-)07:32
ViViDlol07:33
LaserJockViViD: but it's a terrible atmosphere. Smoky and dark. I get headaches pretty quick so I rarely go. I'm going to grad school so I don't have time or money to waste.07:34
ViViDjpatrick: in spain, do you have to write C in english?07:34
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jpatrickViViD: I am English (British to be precise)07:35
ViViDwell i guess its a language of its own heh07:35
ViViDo cool07:35
ViViDeurope is really cool in how you can travel much shorter distances than in north america and experience vast differences in cultures and such07:36
ViViDmuch easier to experiene "the world" from there07:36
ViViDanyway, is anyone available to criticize my upload? i need to get this source packaging down so i can start uploading all my apps07:37
lionel_ping raphink07:38
lionel_Can somebody have a look on http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2021, i correct my package after raphlink comments07:44
lionel_I'lle be back in fw minits (go home)07:45
ViViDcould someone look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2003 the package is finished, just need to make the the debian/ directory is set correctly07:51
Gloubiboulgajpatrick, have you fixed your bug? :)07:56
Gloubiboulgajpatrick, it you have a little moment to review gnetswitch, that would be very cool ;)07:58
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ViViDhmm, anyone know how i add new files to a source package, like i added foo to it, and it doesnt need to be compiled, but for make install, it needs to be moved to prefix/foo/bar...08:01
LaserJockViViD: I don't quite understand your question. You want to move a file after make install?08:07
jpatrickGloubiboulga: just have to upload fix - be right there08:07
Gloubiboulgaok jpatrick08:09
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Kyral...what change made the Evolution Junk Filter think everythng was junk?08:14
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Kyraland I am not kidding08:16
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ViViDLaserJock: yea, when the user performs make install, foo should be moved to prefix/foo/bar, but its just a text file, it doesnt need compiled or anything08:25
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ViViDactually, one is the app menu entry, and the other is a mime-type entry08:25
LaserJockViViD: are you using debhelper? in that case just use dh_install. if not you could just use install08:26
ViViDyea but these files i just added in, and the install function doesnt move them08:27
ViViDone should be in prefix=usr, /usr/share/applications and the other /usr/share/mime/packages08:28
ViViDi guess i should just rebuid it08:28
LaserJockViViD: honestly, I'm totally lost by what you are saying. You want to move files from debian/ to wherever after make install right?08:29
ViViDno, not from the debian dir, from the source directory that the debian directory is inside08:30
LaserJockViViD: ok, well then just use "install file destination" in debian/rules08:34
siretartdholbach: did you already ping crimsun?08:35
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ViViDalright i got it thanks08:48
ViViDnow the package should be done, just need people to check my debian/ contents so i can fix it and get it advocated08:49
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marcin`hello MOTU's09:13
marcin`I need some help with REVU09:13
marcin`I cannot upload with dput09:13
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marcin`output says that there is error 55309:14
marcin`Note: This problem might be caused by files already existent on the server.09:14
marcin`09:14
marcin`could someone help me with this?09:14
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marcin`raphink: ping09:21
LaserJockhas anybody actually gotten freenx to work?09:23
raphinkmarcin`: I'll remove the files from tiber09:23
raphinkthen try to upload again09:23
marcin`ok thanks09:23
raphinkmarcin`: try and upload again now09:24
raphinkmarcin`: did you talk with ArmeBosse ?09:24
jpatrickGloubiboulga: now I'm ready09:24
marcin`yes09:24
raphinkgood09:24
marcin`raphink: yes we are on #vtiger-bounty09:24
raphinkok I'm out09:24
raphinktalker people09:24
marcin`raphink: he is away at the moment09:24
raphinktalker = talk later09:24
raphink;)09:24
jpatrickau revoir raphink09:25
raphinkmarcin`: ok try and find someone to review it, then I'll see it again tonight09:25
raphinkciao jpatrick09:25
marcin`raphink: I must say that I don't agree with few his changes.. but currently we want to put this package in dapper09:25
marcin`raphink: so I'll live with these changes09:26
marcin`raphink: so can I try to upload to revu again?09:26
raphinkgood09:26
raphinkyes, try to upload now09:26
raphinkI'll stay around in case in fails again09:26
raphinkbut then I'll leave09:26
raphinkplease upload now marcin` I want to go out09:28
marcin`30 sek09:30
raphinkhmmpf09:30
jpatrick:)09:30
marcin`ok it's ok09:31
marcin`raphink: sorry I had to remove some stupid line of code from rules....09:31
marcin`raphink: I really we should talk about this package later...09:32
marcin`raphink: but now upload goes to revu09:32
jpatrickraphink: did you upload gnetswitch?09:32
raphinkjpatrick: yes I did09:32
jpatrickah, then my work is done09:32
jpatrick;-)09:32
raphinkmarcin`: is it me or you're currently uploading a Debian native package?09:33
raphinkjpatrick: I'm sure there is more to upload before FF09:33
jpatrickraphink: yep09:33
raphinkmarcin`: you're uploading a tar.gz not a orig.tar.gz09:34
jpatrickraphink: just been bug busting :)09:34
marcin`raphink: I give up...09:34
raphinkmarcin`: sorry?09:35
marcin`raphink: I don't have time to fight with this now...09:35
raphinkhmmm09:35
raphinkyou probably built the package without the orig.tar.gz in the parent dir09:35
raphinkit's very easy to fix09:35
marcin`raphink: have no idea why there is tar.gz not orig.trg09:36
raphinkbut vtiger won't get in as a Debian native09:36
raphinkcause it has no reason to be one09:36
marcin`heh I downloaded this from ArmeBosse website09:36
raphinkwel most of the time the reason is that the orig.tar.gz is not present in the parent dir09:36
raphinkmarcin`: armebosse had mistakenly made it a debian native09:36
raphinkyou should have run debuild -S -sa09:37
raphinkbefore uploading09:37
marcin`I did it09:37
Gloubiboulgajpatrick, I'm ready too :)09:38
marcin`I couldn't upload at all without -S -sa09:38
marcin`raphink: so - what to do now?09:38
raphinkok give me an ssh09:38
raphinkfast09:38
raphinkI want to go out with my friend09:38
marcin`ssh?09:38
jpatrickGloubiboulga: raphink already uploaded so not much I can do09:38
jpatrickSecure Shell09:38
raphinkand I don't want vtiger to waste my evening on stupid upload stuf09:38
raphinkmarcin`: where is the package?09:39
raphinkI'll upload it09:39
raphinkmarcin`: give me the website where it is09:39
marcin`just a moment09:39
marcin`ok ok09:39
marcin`it will be on my website09:39
raphinkif you give me the url it might help09:39
marcin`raphink: I'll upload to09:39
raphinkI need orig, diff.gz and dsc09:40
raphinknothing else09:40
marcin`raphink: http://194.114.146.58/vtiger09:40
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marcin`raphink: hmm there is already my old orig file...09:41
marcin`raphink: it could help09:41
Gloubiboulgajpatrick, ok, just saw it09:41
Gloubiboulgaraphink, merci :)09:41
marcin`raphink: ok done09:41
marcin`raphink: it's all there09:41
raphinkmarcin`: done whazt??09:41
marcin`package is on my website09:42
raphinkmarcin`: you must be kidding09:42
marcin`what?09:42
raphinkmarcin`: where is the diff.gz ??09:42
jpatrick:|09:42
raphinkoh nevermind09:43
raphinkI understood09:43
raphinkmarcin`: nevermind I'll do it09:43
marcin`I had to put new diff there09:43
raphinkyeah yeah nevermind09:43
raphinkdon't worry09:43
raphinkbut then you'll need to find two MOTUs to review09:43
raphinksince I'll be uploading it09:43
raphinkso I can't review it09:43
marcin`to be honest I'm not sure if this package will be OK09:44
marcin`but I'll try09:44
raphinkgets me crazy to have to make the diff again09:45
raphinkwould take just 10 seconds to do it through ssh09:45
raphinkor vnc or whatever09:46
marcin`sorry09:46
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Gloubiboulgabonne nuit09:47
raphinkI'm wondering if this is meant to be in dapper09:47
jpatrickbuenas noches...09:47
raphinkbn Gloubiboulga09:47
raphinkhere we have two packagers, and none being able to turn debian-native package into a normal one09:47
marcin`raphink: I'm really annoyed now...09:48
marcin`raphink: please upload this package if you can09:48
raphinkmarcin`: I'll tell you what I'm doing marcin`09:48
raphinkI'm getting the orig.tar.gz, the .dsc and the tar.gz09:48
raphinkthen09:48
marcin`raphink: but I'll upload my own package tomorrow09:48
raphinkmarcin`: then you'll get your package in dapper+1 in 3 months09:49
raphinkmarcin`: I think you didn't get that today is FF09:49
raphinkit is the _last_ day to get new packages in dapper09:49
raphinktomorrow is too late09:49
marcin`I know that09:49
marcin`and this is why I accept ArmeBosse regressions today09:50
raphinkmarcin`: ok here is what I'm doig09:50
raphinkjust so you know09:50
raphinkI got the tar.gz and extracted it09:50
raphinkthen I removed it09:50
raphinkthen I got the orig.tar.gz09:50
marcin`and propably these 2 MOTU's that has to review this package will say NO09:51
raphinkthen I cd into the extracted dir09:51
raphinkand I run debuild -S -sa -kmykey09:51
marcin`raphink: yeah I know what you did09:51
raphinkmarcin`: then why didn't you do it?09:51
marcin`raphink: you know that I uploaded correct packages earlier09:51
raphinkwell not this time though09:52
marcin`but now I ArmeBosse was working on this package09:52
ArmeBossehere09:52
marcin`and I just downloaded files from his website and did pbuild outside of my workspace09:52
marcin`and I was in hurry so I forgot about this orig09:53
raphinkit's good to check other people's work before committing it09:53
raphinkok09:53
raphinkit's up09:53
raphinkin 4 minutes it'll be available on REVU09:53
marcin`and had no time to merge with my build tree09:53
marcin`ok09:53
raphinkfind MOTUs to review it09:53
ArmeBossei like "regression" term09:53
raphinkhavea good evening :)09:53
jpatrickraphink: we'll take over from here09:53
raphinkciao09:54
marcin`ArmeBosse: I don't have another term to name all we had to do with this package09:54
raphinkthanks jpatrick09:54
jpatrickbye09:54
ArmeBosse"changes"09:54
ArmeBossebye raphink09:54
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marcin`ArmeBosse: themes removed, you also added dh_link while we got script that does the same job in /etc/apache2/conf.d09:55
ArmeBossereplyed in other chan already09:55
marcin`ArmeBosse: I see09:55
ArmeBosseso what you want again ?09:55
marcin`nothing...09:55
marcin`I'm just annoyed I want this package to be up and running09:56
marcin`and I want to go and work on polish translation and custom modules09:56
marcin`and I don't want to care about weird requirements from ajmitch_ or other MOTU's09:56
ArmeBossewhat's need to be polished ATM ?09:56
ArmeBosseno more time yes09:56
marcin`propably nothing09:56
marcin`except that I know that sistpotty or propably other MOTU's could complain about copyright09:57
ArmeBossei must read back log bb09:57
marcin`and propably about config.template.php in /etc/ too09:57
LaserJock_marcin`: revu URL?09:57
ArmeBossewe'll see09:58
ArmeBossei'm not agree with this point of view09:58
marcin`LaserJock_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=202609:58
ArmeBossejust wait MOTU review09:58
marcin`ArmeBosse: sure09:59
marcin`another thing is that I still don't understant how is possible to configure this package to use some 'random' theme10:00
marcin`or 'random' language10:00
ArmeBossenot package related ?10:01
ArmeBosse"stupid line" i always like the terms you use and you collaborative point of view :)10:03
ArmeBosse+r10:03
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marcin`well ajmitch_ complained a lot that this package has theme-blue as dependency and other themes as recommended10:04
marcin`ArmeBosse: so he complained a lot but didn't said how is this possible to set10:04
marcin`ArmeBosse: dependencies like: theme1 | theme2 | theme310:05
ArmeBossewell i'm waiting to talk with him10:05
marcin`ArmeBosse: and then how user is supposed to choose between themes10:05
marcin`ArmeBosse: while we really _need_ to have at least one theme10:06
LaserJock_marcin`: at least one of them *has* to be installed10:06
marcin`LaserJock_: but which one?10:06
LaserJock_anyone10:06
LaserJock_any one, I mean10:06
ArmeBosseLaserJock_: there's no more package for theme10:07
marcin`LaserJock_: it's not so easy - because it has then to be set in /etc/vtigercrm/config.inc.php10:07
ArmeBossethere's only core with base theme10:07
marcin`and this is regression for me10:07
marcin`we had to give up and put all themes to single package10:07
LaserJock_and you can't use debconf?10:07
ArmeBosseand will introduce a debconf question to choose default theme10:08
marcin`LaserJock_: sure I could - but tell me how?10:08
ArmeBosseand it's not regression for me10:08
LaserJock_marcin`: read debconf material10:08
marcin`LaserJock_: I did10:08
marcin`LaserJock_: tell me please one thing10:08
marcin`LaserJock_: we got vtiger package and vtiger-theme1, v-theme2, v-theme310:09
ArmeBossemarcin`: if you don't know how to do it not a problem, i'll do it10:09
marcin`LaserJock_: and we set in vtiger: Depends: v-theme1, v-theme2, v-theme310:09
LaserJock_marcin`: btw, I can see how the debian/copyright is going to be a mess but you do need to put the text of the licenses that aren't GPL, BSD, or LGPL10:09
marcin`LaserJock_: then which one will be installed when user will do: apt-get install vtiger?10:09
marcin`LaserJock_: tell this to ArmeBosse10:10
marcin`LaserJock_: (about copyright)10:10
LaserJock_marcin`: are you talking about v-theme1| vtheme-2| v-theme3 in Depends?10:10
ArmeBossecollaborative :) lol10:10
ArmeBosseLaserJock_: i prefer to wait for review of MOTU10:11
marcin`ArmeBosse: yes we got perfect collaboration ;>10:11
marcin`ArmeBosse: I added this license to copyright and you removed in next version10:11
LaserJock_ArmeBosse: well, you can but you could also check the Debian Policy10:11
ArmeBosseLaserJock_: if it's only this that can prevent vtiger to enter, we can have a consensus10:11
marcin`ArmeBosse: so I don't care about this issue because it's not my fault10:12
ArmeBossefor moment there's too many issues pending10:12
ArmeBossemarcin`: i'm not here to count points, here waiting for MOTU review10:12
marcin`LaserJock_: yes I'm talking about these dependencies10:12
marcin`ArmeBosse: as I said - I don't care - LaserJock_ said about copyright to me but you are the author10:13
marcin`ArmeBosse: so he should talk with you - EOT10:13
marcin`LaserJock_: anyway forget about these issues now10:14
ArmeBosseLaserJock_: have you got chapter in debian policy where i can refer to about copyright ?10:14
LaserJock_ArmeBosse: yes just a sec, I've been dealing with this issue too lately10:14
ArmeBossek10:14
LaserJock_ArmeBosse: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s-copyrightfile10:15
marcin`LaserJock_: so if we got 'Depends: theme1 | theme2 | theme3' then how user can choose which theme he want's to install and which one he wants to be default?10:15
ArmeBossethks10:15
ArmeBossemarcin`: ok it's in debian policy so you can revert the copyright10:17
ArmeBosseSPL copy i mean10:17
LaserJock_marcin`: I'm not sure exactly. I don't think it will exactly do what you want. but any of those themes will satisfy the dependency. So the user could install theme2 and remove theme1 for instance10:17
LaserJock_ArmeBosse: what about FPDF? freeware isn't a very descriptive license10:18
marcin`LaserJock_: yes I know that but it's not enough to satisfy dependency10:18
ArmeBossei can't do more, author never set license10:18
LaserJock_ArmeBosse: ugggh10:19
marcin`LaserJock_: we also have to set $default_theme variable in config.inc.php10:19
ArmeBossefreeware=do what you want10:19
LaserJock_ArmeBosse: well, so perhaps Public Domain?10:19
marcin`LaserJock_: but then we can for example have 10 themes and any could be default10:19
ArmeBossehttp://www.fpdf.org/?lang=en10:19
LaserJock_marcin`: I think the first one might be the default or if you specify in an apt-get line10:20
ArmeBossehttp://www.fpdf.org/en/FAQ.php10:20
ArmeBosseFPDF is Freeware (it is stated at the beginning of the source file). There is no usage restriction. You may embed it freely in your application (commercial or not), with or without modification. You may redistribute it, too.10:20
ArmeBossewe can add this10:21
ArmeBossemarcin`: you never can implement something like that, must regsister new theme, parse the file, show it in debconf10:22
ArmeBossemany work10:22
LaserJock_marcin`: seems like debconf would be much better but I've never used it so ...10:23
ArmeBosseand in debian package i'll never do like that10:23
marcin`yes it's pretty weird10:25
marcin`but themes is one thing and we also have language packs that are simmilar issue10:25
LaserJock_I guess I might be ignorant of debconf here but it doesn't seem like it would be that hard. Maybe I don't understand exactly what you're trying to do.10:25
ArmeBossenot similar issue10:25
ArmeBossebase theme and new added theme is not the same approach10:26
ArmeBossewe must install package correctly, but user must select it in web app10:26
ArmeBossefor base theme, we know them, so we can do like apache.conf10:27
ArmeBossemarcin`: or in you need to parse themes dir10:28
ArmeBossemust be a better approach10:29
marcin`another thing is that I thought that Conflicts will save us from php5 issues10:29
marcin`and after little talk with sistpotty he gave me this url: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/2233510:29
Ubugtumalone bug 22335 in ubuntu-meta ubuntu-desktop "gnome-screensaver conflicts with ubuntu-desktop" [Normal,Fix released] 10:29
marcin`and I had to remove this10:29
marcin`so now nothing can save us if user will install php5...10:30
marcin`anyway I need to do polish translation now10:30
ArmeBosseconflicts with php5 is supposed to resolve which issue ?10:31
ArmeBosseLaserJock_: you are a MOTU ?10:32
LaserJock_hopfully soon will be in a week but not presently10:32
ArmeBosseafter reviewing the current package, only copyright blocks you ?10:33
ArmeBosseany other people to review it ?10:35
LaserJock_I just looked at the debian/copyright because marcin` had mentioned it. I didn't really look at the rest.10:36
ArmeBossek10:36
ArmeBossemarcin`: can you upload a new package with SPL 1.1.2 inside ?10:38
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ArmeBossemarcin`: and remove copyright.txt and license_linux.txt from docs ?10:38
marcin`20 minutes10:39
TheMusoBye all. If you need me, please email me, themuso@themuso.com. Will be offline for the next couple of days.10:40
ArmeBossemarcin`: ok, you probably need to remove the lines mentionning this toot10:40
ArmeBosse-t10:40
marcin`ArmeBosse: and I also can remove this dh_link right?10:41
ArmeBosseyes10:43
ArmeBossei update svn on vtigerforge10:43
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tepsipakkihi, anyone available for a last check on http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2019 ?10:48
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tepsipakkinoo, don't leave me :)10:54
ArmeBossemarcin`: in the same idea, QPL 1.0 and MPL 1.1 must be added10:55
marcin`mhm10:56
marcin`few minutes please10:56
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marcin`I need to finish my meeting with customer10:56
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sistpotyhi folks10:56
sistpotyare we in FeatureFreeze yet?10:57
tepsipakkisistpoty: both libgssapi and librpcsecgss got uploaded :)10:57
sistpotycongrats tepsipakki ;)10:58
tepsipakkiand thank you once again. I repackaged them, used cdbs this time10:58
sistpotyyou're welcome ;)10:58
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dolsoncrimsun: PAM patch completed by Kamion :D11:00
tepsipakkisistpoty: there's still libnfsidmap, which should be easy (like those two earlier), so how about it?-)11:01
sistpotytepsipakki: ok, I'll take a look...11:01
tepsipakkihttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=201911:01
tepsipakkithe url11:01
ArmeBossemarcin`: svn updated11:02
sistpotytepsipakki: oh, it's in main...11:02
sistpotytepsipakki: you'll need to ask s.o. with main privs...11:02
ViViDcan someone please look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2003 and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2024 please11:02
ArmeBossesistpoty: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2026 next in the queue please :)11:02
tepsipakkisistpoty: yes.. Kamion said that too, but I don't know who to ask11:03
ViViDif they need work leave a comment, im gonna go take a shower11:03
sistpotyomg... queue is getting longer, and I'm online for just 5 minutes ;)11:03
ArmeBossehh FF frenzy11:03
tepsipakkiheh11:03
sistpotytepsipakki: ajmitch_, siretart, slomo, \sh_away, tseng, dholbach (just to give you some examples)11:03
tepsipakkisistpoty: ok I'll start poking11:04
sistpotytepsipakki: maybe you could also ask s.o. in #ubuntu-devel... though I assume they're all quite busy11:05
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tepsipakkiI bet..11:05
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sistpotyViViD: please don't advocate your own uploads ;)11:08
ArmeBossesistpoty: so no time to review vtigercrm again ?11:10
marcin`ArmeBosse: where are QPL and MPL licenses?11:10
sistpotyArmeBosse: it's in the queue ;)11:10
marcin`ArmeBosse: are there in vtiger sources somewhere?11:11
ArmeBosseyes a second11:11
ArmeBossejpgraph/QPL.txt11:11
ArmeBossehttp://www.mozilla.org/MPL/MPL-1.1.txt11:12
ArmeBossein the template : $root_directory = '/usr/share/vtigercrm/';11:14
marcin`ok right11:15
ArmeBossein docs, like your package INSTALLATION.txt and README.txt11:15
marcin`yes I know11:15
ArmeBossei missed to remove 1 file in svn , why i repeat11:16
marcin`I also wonder if is there any way to force apache to use php4 with apache.conf11:18
ArmeBossedon't know11:20
sistpotyArmeBosse, marcin`: can't you check for a module?11:22
sistpotyfor the presence of a module even11:22
ArmeBossesistpoty: seems difficult to do for all webserver11:27
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ArmeBossefor apache 2 we can look mods-enabled dir11:27
ArmeBosseif you look "advanced" webapps, they don't go so far11:28
ArmeBossemy current example is gforge11:29
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sistpotyArmeBosse: what I'm still wondering is, why it won't work with php5 installed (if php4 is present as well)11:29
sistpotyArmeBosse: is it using cgi or s.th. like modphp?11:30
ArmeBossesistpoty: conflicts with php5 is supposed to resolve which issue ?11:32
ArmeBossesistpoty: i don't know myself11:32
ArmeBossejust vtiger doesn work with php5, only php4 is supported11:32
sistpotyArmeBosse: if it uses s.th. like mod-php, I guess the config-piece of apache could be tweaked to force use of php4 or display an error message if it's not enabled11:34
sistpotyArmeBosse: if it uses cgi, I guess you could replace the interpreter name with hardcoded php4 for the files. not quite sure if this works though (don't know exactly how cgi-scripts are executed by apache)11:35
ArmeBossewe can use a2en11:35
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marcin`anyway we got an hour and we don't have any MOTU wwhat could review this11:36
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ArmeBossethe main problem :(11:36
marcin`ArmeBosse: I'm just uploading new version with chages in copyright and rules11:36
ArmeBossek11:36
ArmeBossesistpoty: this can probably wait next release ?11:37
ArmeBossewe've got a working package, and a tweakable on that can be more reliable later11:37
sistpotyArmeBosse: yes (but you shouldn't have a conflicts: php5 in the control, as discussed last night)11:38
ArmeBosseit' removed :)11:38
sistpoty:)11:38
ArmeBosselast package seems ok for me ;)11:38
ArmeBossebut i'm not motu :)11:38
sistpotyphew... reviewing this beast will be fun... I guess I'll need an hour or so for it ;)11:39
ArmeBossejust works(tm) ;)11:40
ArmeBosseany webapps guru in motu ? maybe you ?11:40
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ArmeBossereviewers : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=202711:46
ArmeBossemarcin`: you reintroduced typo mistake11:48
ArmeBossemarcin`: what did you use ? patch ?11:48
ArmeBossewhat's this ???11:49
ArmeBosseyou re introduced your embedded template ?11:50
ArmeBosseok so you revert my changes ...11:50
marcin`holy crap11:53
marcin`sorry11:53
marcin`I had to use my build tree11:53
marcin`to make revu upload11:53
marcin`because your package is debian native11:53
ArmeBosseorig.tar.gz is debian native ?11:54
marcin`and I changed things in copyright but forgot about these one11:54
marcin`there is no orig.tar.gz ob your webpage11:54
ArmeBossehow did you do previous upload then ?11:54
marcin`http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=202611:55
marcin`take a look at last comment from raphink11:55
marcin`he had to download this and upload again as ubuntu package11:55
ArmeBossehttp://fboudra.free.fr/debian/vtigercrm/vtigercrm_4.2.3.orig.tar.gz11:55
marcin`heh too late :)11:56
ArmeBossehehe good liar :)11:56
marcin`no really it wasn't there11:56
ArmeBosseyou can tell me11:56
ArmeBossebefore upload11:56
marcin`anyway it doesn't matter11:57
ArmeBosseit does matter11:57
marcin`is any MOTU reviewing this ?11:57
marcin`I could do another upload now11:58
marcin`but not sure if there is anyone working on this11:58
ArmeBossei want previous package with the fix11:58
ArmeBossesvn is sync11:58
ArmeBossejust copyright not updated11:58
sistpotyViViD: libpar2 reviewed... please look at the comments and ask if s.th. is unclear11:59
marcin`svn on vtigerforge?12:00
ArmeBosseyes12:00
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marcin`btw I'm sorry but tell me again how to hell can I upload my files there?12:01
marcin`to polish-lang project...12:01
ArmeBosseadmin interface of you project12:02
ArmeBosser12:02
marcin`(I know you already did but I don't have irc log on)12:02
marcin`ok and then?12:02

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