[12:07] hub: thanks, I've now fixed the rules' from the packages, new versions are on the way to REVU [12:20] and there they are: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1980 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1981 http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1982 [12:20] gn8 folks === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] night.. no more ice hockey from telly :) === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-21.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] raphink: piiiing [01:07] marcin`: let's go to #vtiger-bounty ok? === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pietrus [n=pietrus@tor/session/x-8ef731c62c52a2f3] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] time for another reviewing round... [01:57] sistpoty: do you ever sleep? [01:57] ajmitch: as soon as dawn breaks ;) [01:57] ajmitch: sivang said that in -devel to kamion. :) [01:58] re MOTUs [02:08] tepsipakki: still there? [02:09] lol [02:10] tepsipakki: just took a glimpse over librpcsecgss... see coments (I will first do a proper review of libgssapi though) [02:13] tepsipakki: and one more thing not listed: the -dev package should depend on all -dev packages needed to satisfy headers in this -dev package (not sure if any of the build-dependencies are needed though) [02:14] sistpoty: hello [02:14] hi marcin` [02:14] sistpoty: got a question... could you please review vtigercrm package in REVU? [02:15] marcin`: give me a few minutes, then I'll do it ;) [02:15] sistpoty: we just uploaded package that we think that is ready for dapper [02:15] sistpoty: and raphink already said yes to this package but we need another MOTU to do the same :) [02:15] marcin`: sure... just a few minutes and I'll be over it ;) [02:15] sistpoty: ok [02:21] hum... just a dumb question, feature freeze just freezes new uploads or we have to file something like a UVF for package updates ? [02:21] s/new/NEW/ [02:23] Toadstool: we don't need exceptions existing packages... I have no clue though, if we can push in new packages after feature freeze with an exception [02:23] exceptions for existing packages even [02:23] ok [02:24] marcin`: on it... will take some time ;) [02:25] ok I'm here [02:26] this is mandatory but the templates in my wide-dhcpv6 package are not debian devel-reference, and therefore Ubuntu, I think, compliant... moreover I've got some translations for my templates... [02:26] *isn't mandatory [02:28] gn8 MOTUs [02:37] marcin`: why does vtigercrm-core depend on vtigercrm-theme-blue (but only recommend the other themes)? [02:40] because vtigercrm needs at least one theme to work [02:40] sistpoty: and this theme is hardcoded as default in original config.inc.php [02:41] sistpoty: so I use this as default and recommend other themes as optional [02:41] marcin`: so it won't work if would have only aqua-theme? [02:42] sistpoty: it could but to make this possible user has to change config file manually [02:42] sounds broken to me [02:43] sistpoty: /etc/vtigercrm/config.inc.php contains $default_theme = 'blue'; [02:43] you're still forcing them to always have the blue theme installed, no matter what their config says [02:44] I also force them to use english language as default... [02:44] hm... if the default config would be broken otherwise, I guess I can live with the dependencies as they are right now [02:44] there has to be at least one theme and at least one language [02:44] marcin`: you can do this with provides: vtigercrm-theme and depending on that virtual package [02:44] I could keep blue in vtigercrm-core package [02:45] marcin`: but I guess this can be addressed for future releases [02:45] sistpoty: propably yes but then I need to do some magic to change default theme in config.inc.php === ajmitch disagrees [02:46] ajmitch: as in cannot wait for future releases? or as in dependencies should be fixed, even if the config would be broken? [02:46] ajmitch: you disagree to what? [02:46] sistpoty: disagree that it should be put off for future releases [02:47] ajmitch: ok then tell me how it should work? [02:47] depend on real | virtual package [02:47] or you depend on the blue theme first [02:47] so blue | aqua | whatever [02:48] they'd need to explicitly select another theme in the deps to get it [02:48] ajmitch: it's not 'whatever' because then you need to set at least one as default === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-131-21.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:48] and is it so very hard for someone to change their config? [02:48] ajmitch: and then they should choose which one should be default [02:48] the default would still be blue [02:48] since if you did apt-get install vtiger-crm, it would get the blue theme [02:49] ha, gained some of ajmitch's deep insight :) [02:49] :P [02:49] insights even [02:49] I don't get it... === ajmitch can do without the mockery [02:49] it works like this right now - so what's the problem? [02:50] the problem is that there's no way to remove the blue theme without removing the whole app [02:50] if you have blue | pink | black [02:50] marcin`: it's the way apt-get install handles dependencies... the blue-theme would be drawn in by default. [02:50] then blue will get picked by default [02:50] ajmitch: ok but in the same way there is no way to remove english [02:50] unless one of the others is selected [02:50] marcin`: so you could change that too :) [02:51] ok then tell me one thing... [02:51] I got few theme packages right? [02:51] and core package... [02:51] and this config.inc.php is created with postinst script... [02:52] if I remove theme blue as default dependency then user won't be able to use application [02:52] I cannot install theme _after_ core package [02:53] and there is another problem - user can install package in this way: [02:53] dependencies will be installed (and configured, iirc) before the package that depends on them [02:53] apt-get install vt-core vt-theme-1 vt-theme-2 vt-theme-3 [02:53] tell me now which one should be default? [02:53] whichever you like [02:54] so which package should be installed first? [02:54] I'm sure you can come up with a good way to choose, whether it be random choice or a preferred option [02:54] with theme or core? [02:54] ? [02:55] Is anyone working on scribes? [02:55] no [02:55] Depends [02:55] at least I'm not [02:55] This declares an absolute dependency. A package will not be configured unless all of the packages listed in its Depends field have been correctly configured. [02:55] and how long do we have before the Freeze? [02:56] so when at least 1 theme is configured, the core can be configured [02:56] Kyral: a few hours [02:56] .....damnit [02:56] I could get it ready tomorrow. But not tonight... [02:56] know what... I don't see any way to make this as you want to [02:56] Kyral: dapper+1? [02:57] LaserJock: yah... [02:57] I'll ITP it for Debian [02:57] and I think that there is a lot of apps that has some theme as dependency and everything is ok [02:57] that is why I think it is nice to get a sponsor in Debian. I can upload packages to unstable anytime and then sync to Ubuntu when I can. [02:58] I thought Sponsors were on a per package basis [02:58] LaserJock: until debian has freezes, that is [02:58] ajmitch: tell me one thing - is this possible to install for example gnome without at least one default theme? [02:59] Kyral: well, often times you develop a relationship with a particular DD, I think. So you often have the same person sponsoring your uploads. [02:59] ajmitch: and I really don't see any way to make this possible while dpkg doesn't provide conditional dependencies [03:00] ajmitch: do you thing that Debian will have freezes in unstable? [03:00] marcin`: different comparison, gnome has a single themes packages [03:01] I have a couple ITPs to file then [03:01] LaserJock: not as such [03:01] ajmitch: please show me at least one package which has something you expect in vtigercrm [03:01] ajmitch: I just need to see it because I don't understand what is the problem for you there === ajmitch doesn't have time right now to go digging through packages for an example [03:02] ok then try to talk for a while about this logic... === ajmitch doesn't have time to talk for awhile either :) [03:03] let's imagine that I'm user - and want to install vtiger [03:03] ITPs are still filed as bugs right... [03:03] so I do: apt-get install vtiger-mysql [03:03] marcin`: freedoom and it's dependency on doom-engine [03:03] ajmitch: and how should I set default theme here? [03:04] sistpoty: apt-getting [03:04] Nafallo_away: talk to me === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] marcin`: looking at the dependencies would be more helpful ;) [03:04] sistpoty: will freedoom work without doom-engine? [03:05] marcin`: the other way round is true actually (so maybe this is not a really good example) [03:05] Kyral: yeah, I used reportbug. it has an option for ITPs if I remember right. [03:05] marcin`: a package providing doom-engine needs some data-files (which are in doom-engine for example, but could also be directly installed) [03:05] sistpoty: ok I see this - and then how I can choose different engine> [03:06] sistpoty: dpkg gets first from list? [03:06] marcin`: it's prboom | doom-engine... so prboom should get drawn in [03:06] sistpoty: because it says that freedoom depends on prboom [03:06] marcin`: but you can install lxdoom and remove prboom [03:07] but I have to install prboom first? [03:07] marcin`: afaik no... apt-get install doom-legacy lxdoom-x11 should do what you want [03:08] we are talking about apt-get install freedoom [03:08] do I have a choice then? [03:08] sorry... go it wrong [03:08] can I apt-get install freedoom without prboom? [03:08] apt-get install freedoom lxdoom-x11 should do that trick [03:09] apt-get install freedoom doom-engine or apt-get install freedoom prboom? === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] marcin`: sudo apt-get --simulate install lxdoom-x11 freedoom does exactly what you want [03:10] marcin`: freedoom lxdoom-x11 *will* draw in prboom [03:11] sistpoty: I believe apt-get install freedom prboom- is another option [03:11] minghua: no, just tried it, it does draw in prboom [03:11] sistpoty: ok then how can I switch between engines? [03:12] marcin`: by installing another engine and removing the previous enging [03:12] ah... my typing is horrible today [03:12] but what if I want to have both? [03:13] you install them both [03:13] ok and which one is default then? [03:13] whichever freedoom decides to use [03:13] imagine now - I got vtiger and for example 10 themes [03:13] marcin`: prboom, because it gets drawn in automatically [03:13] it's up to the program to decide what files it uses [03:13] marcin`: but otoh there is no real default [03:14] each can be default but at least one _has_ to be default === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] so choose one as default [03:14] I already did - blue is default === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] ajmitch: the example is stupid, since freedoom (the datafiles) shouldn't depend on a doom-engine at all... but that's a different issue [03:14] I mean without forcing users to always have it [03:15] I need to force users because there has to be at least one [03:15] sistpoty: you're right, programs should depend on data, otherwise you can end up with circular dependencies [03:16] and there is another thing - blue is let's say 'system' default [03:16] ajmitch: yes, and the tricky part is that you have all combinations of doom-engine and data-files here (as you could install the original doom-datafiles) but let's get back to vtiger [03:16] then each vtiger user can set different one as default [03:16] sistpoty: in my system "apt-get install freedoom prboom-" works (note the minus sigh after prboom), it installs doomlegacy-x11 instead [03:16] sistpoty: I'll let you handle it, I don't have the stamina to discuss this for the next 4 hours [03:16] minghua: ah... I thought it was a typo *g*... learned just another thing [03:17] ajmitch: phew... and this is just one of the issues I see w.o. even having built vtiger... [03:17] sistpoty: a handy but less-known feature of apt-get :-) [03:18] :) [03:18] marcin`: so it might break if you install all themes, user sets a different theme and this theme get's removed? [03:18] ok guys let's do something [03:19] sistpoty: yes [03:19] sistpoty: but it's usual [03:19] hm... don't have a (nice) solution at hand for this [03:20] sistpoty: in the same way I can set some theme in gnome on my desktop then remove this theme... [03:20] sistpoty: and gnome will propably switch to default right> [03:20] ? === herzi [n=herzi@d006180.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] marcin`: no idea, I use kde ;) (and I'm not eager in testing this right now) [03:21] gnome behaves strangely last time I tried that :-) [03:21] marcin`: imo if you set a hard dependency on all themes, it will not make vtigercrm break, until you figured a better solution [03:21] anyway how it should be done to make you happy? [03:22] sistpoty: but I don't need hard dependency on all themes [03:22] marcin`: I guess some postinst/postrm magic of the themes would be the way to go [03:22] sistpoty: I need hard dependency on one single theme [03:23] sistpoty: and default theme is set to blue in original config file === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] sistpoty: so I use this theme as default and then user can add optional themes if wants to [03:23] marcin`: if you can live with the breakage, if a theme gets removed afterwards, you could depend on blue | theme and have all the themes provide theme [03:24] sistpoty: please install vtiger and try this at least once [03:24] I have an app whose version is R6 -BETA [03:24] marcin`: what exactly do you want me to try? [03:24] how shall I version it [03:25] sistpoty: then you will see that it has login dialog [03:25] 0.0+R6BETA ? [03:25] sistpoty: and there user can choose theme [03:25] sistpoty: this is dropdown and it has to have at least one entry on it's list [03:25] so there always will be blue [03:26] marcin`: I will do that... but first I'd like to review a little bit more [03:26] or more... [03:26] ok [03:26] but I'll be online for about 30 minutes... [03:26] it's 3:37 am here [03:26] and I need to go to bed soon [03:26] hub: good question... 0.0+R6beta is at least not wrong [03:26] yeah [03:27] marcin`: same here... but there are still some (really serious issues) [03:27] I'll start with that [03:27] sistpoty: go on then... [03:29] marcin`: you should actually put everything from copyright.txt into debian/copyright [03:29] marcin`: because the copyright information need to be available uncompressed [03:30] marcin`: license_agreement should also be in debian/copyright [03:30] ehh it's ArmeBosse issue [03:31] marcin`: but that's a pretty serious issue imo [03:31] marcin`: another thing: vtigercrm-mysql-local: does it need php4 or libapache[2] -mod-php4? [03:31] libapache [03:31] marcin`: and the conflicts to php5 is wrong, unless it contains the same files as php5 does [03:32] but it won't work if there is php5 in system [03:33] marcin`: that doesn't mean it needs to Confilct with php5 [03:33] marcin`: but conflicts *only* states: cannot be installed at the same time (due to the same files being in the package) [03:33] marcin`: there is no method of describing app foo will break app bar in debian/control [03:33] ok I'll remove this but it sucks because php5 is now in main... [03:34] marcin`: mom, I'll look for a lengthy rant^Wexplanation from keybuk [03:34] and it will make vtigercrm propably unusable [03:34] and what about these licenses - it's not enough that they are mentioned in copyright? [03:35] marcin`: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/22335 for conflicts [03:35] malone bug 22335 in ubuntu-meta ubuntu-desktop "gnome-screensaver conflicts with ubuntu-desktop" [Normal,Fix released] [03:35] marcin`: no, if you look at the debs, copyright.txt is compressed, and that's the point about it [03:36] marcin`: you should simply copy all the contents of copyright.txt to debian/copyright (as well as license_agreement) [03:41] sistpoty: is there a way to keep these files uncompressed in /doc ? [03:41] sistpoty: they are not compressed in *.orig.tar.gz [03:41] someone should put keybuk's explanation in a more apparent place :-) [03:42] If any MOTUs have time, there is a new speechd-up package available for review. [03:42] marcin`: yes, but imo you should put that into debian/copyright [03:42] ok just a moment [03:43] so remove this php5 conflict? === vivid [n=vivid@c-67-160-125-239.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] how exactly do i sign up for motu? [03:43] marcin`: yes, please remove the conflict [03:43] vivid: YOu can either find a package that is not yet in the archive to upload, or start helping to fix bugs. [03:44] sistpoty: ok then is there any way to ensure that some other dependency will not broke my package? [03:44] break... [03:44] thats it, ive got an app of mine that im trying to get in...but i cant figure out how, ive uploaded to revu, i think [03:44] marcin`: no. [03:44] i already have the changes, dsc, amd64 and x86 packages of the libs and binary [03:44] marcin`: at least no automatic way [03:44] sistpoty: well it sucks... === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] marcin`: why does it break if you have php5 installed? [03:45] vivid: Have you emailed to submit your GPG key? [03:45] sistpoty: because by default apache will use php5 (if it is installed then it overrides php4) [03:45] hi all [03:45] TheMuso: no im not having much luck with finding this type of information on the site [03:45] sistpoty: and vtigercrm php code is not compatible with php5 [03:46] TheMuso: but i have my private and pub key here [03:46] TheMuso: and my dsc, changes is signed [03:46] vivid: I don't have much time right now, but give me a sec and I will find the link. [03:46] sweet, thanks [03:46] marcin`: you ship some apache-config-fragment... couldn't you put s.th. in there that prevents usage of php5? [03:46] do i submit to REVU, or MOTU? [03:47] sistpoty: don't know that [03:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU [03:47] sistpoty: btw this package is broken... [03:47] vivid: Thats the link with the info you need. [03:47] marcin`: oh, that's bad [03:47] sistpoty: need to fix that.. ArmeBosse removed my postinst code and replaced with his that is broken [03:48] sistpoty: not big issue but this package is not installable at the moment [03:49] marcin`: should I post all comments I found up till now? or do you want to wait until I finished reviewing [03:49] sounds like a big enough issue [03:49] yes post all you got [03:50] ajmitch: right... I had no time to test it - he said that this is only regression to what he had before and it was workable... [03:50] hi MOTUs! [03:50] ajmitch: but now I see that he was wrong [03:50] hey zakame [03:51] hello sistpoty [03:53] marcin`: posted to revu... I mentioned most of them here already [03:53] apparently ive already got it uploaded, but i cant sign in, and the rocover link provides nothing for me to paste and decrpyt === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-131-21.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] sistpoty: there is lintian override with missing-debconf-dependency [03:55] sistpoty: is that ok? === at1as_ [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] sistpoty: another question - we need some template file - config.template.php to use this file as input for dbconfig-common [03:56] sistpoty: and then we get config.inc.php as output [03:56] sistpoty: it goes to /etc/vtigercrm/ [03:56] sistpoty: is this ok to have template there too? [03:56] marcin`: no... lintian overrides are (if ever) only good if you know for certain that lintian is wrong [03:57] sistpoty: or maybe template should go to /tmp and then should be removed after config.inc.php is already generated by postinst? [03:57] sistpoty: so I should add debconf dependency> [03:57] marcin`: templates shouldn't be in /etc... I [03:58] marcin`: yes, please do [03:58] marcin`: you can't install a file to /tmp [03:58] marcin`: (i.e. a package can't have a file in /tmp) [03:58] sistpoty: I don't want to install file there I had a piece of code that generated file [03:59] sistpoty: with mktemp in /tmp [03:59] hrmm it seems libpng12-0 broke pngcrush [03:59] marcin`: if it's temporary then it should be tmp, shouldn't it? [03:59] sistpoty: and then this file was used as template to generate /etc/vtigercrm/config.inc.php [03:59] sistpoty: and removed from /tmp after postinst [04:00] sistpoty: so anyway if I want to use template that should be temporary [04:00] siretart: im having trouble logging into REVU, are you here? [04:00] sistpoty: I should install/generate this file from postinst [04:01] vivid: just a sec, I'll take a look (soon) [04:01] sistpoty: then do something with this file in postinst and remove from tmp on the end - right? [04:01] marcin`: sounds good [04:01] vivid: what's your email-address for revu? [04:01] sistpoty: jaugustine@vivnet.net === sistpoty looks [04:02] i cant seem to get my encrypted password.. [04:02] sistpoty: so the thing now is that ArneBosse wants to use template file which he expects to be in /etc/vtigercrm [04:02] sistpoty: but he doesn't provide any script to put this file there - and this is why currently this package is broken [04:03] marcin`: then unbreak it ;) [04:03] sistpoty: so I could add script that will install template file [04:03] sistpoty: but it definetly shouldn't go to /etc/ [04:03] marcin`: if it's temporary, it shouldn't go to /etc... (or just a template that's no config-file) [04:04] sistpoty: ok he will be angry but I don't care - my code is ok - his code is broken ;) [04:04] sistpoty: just a moment :) [04:05] vivid: did you upload a package to revu yet? [04:05] yes, two, and when i try to re-upload, it says theyre already there [04:06] vivid: give me another sec please ;) [04:06] they are libpar2 0.2-0ubuntu1 and gpar2 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 [04:07] vivid: yes, both have been moved to the rejected queue... only question remains is why [04:08] if there is no license file will that happen? i think its named copying [04:09] vivid: no, they are rejected in the revu-queue by some script... so there is either s.th. wrong with the signature or your key not yet imported or the scripts fault (once again) [04:09] well, i didnt send my key to the keyserver until after i uploaded, so thats probably why [04:10] vivid: what's your keyid? [04:10] vivid: sending to the keyserver is just 1 part, it needs to be imported by a revu admin (like sistpoty) [04:10] 2A70ADF9 [04:11] vivid: no that key isn't in revu's keyring... where did you actually send your key to? [04:11] (since I didn't get a mail from you) [04:12] vivid: but anyways, please send a signed mail to keyring@tiber.tauware.de, then I'll import your key [04:12] the site says to send it to keyserver.ubuntu.com [04:12] ok one sec [04:12] sistpoty: what is po-debconf ? [04:13] sistpoty: can it be set as dependency - debconf? [04:13] vivid: hehe, that's only one step [04:13] i must be in too much of a hurry [04:13] marcin`: po-debconf is afaik the thing for debconf-translations [04:14] marcin`: what do you mean about the dependency? [04:14] sistpoty: Pre-Depends: debconf | debconf-2.0 something like this? [04:14] err, how do i sign an email heh [04:15] marcin`: urm... why not just a dependency on debconf? === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] sistpoty: there was another issue in lintian then AFAIR [04:16] vivid: what email-client are you using? [04:17] i found the how-to thingy in the wiki [04:17] vivid: :) [04:18] marcin`: imo debconf as pre-depends should suffice, since debconf-2.0 is provided by debconf... (but I'm not sure wether that's true for debian/testing as well) [04:18] marcin`: but it looks sane [04:19] what should the subject be? [04:19] vivid: a nice one... I like recieving mails with nice subjects (just kidding) [04:19] vivid: s.th. like key for revu [04:20] and you just want the public key block in it right? [04:21] vivid: no, I want the mail to be signed by you... I can figure the keyid from that [04:21] ok, well i put the keyblock it, but its signed anyway so it should be good [04:21] vivid: doesn't really matter ;) [04:21] sistpoty: you said that I should put Cpyright.txt to debian/copyright? [04:21] sistpoty: have you sean it's content? [04:22] marcin`: I browsed through it... probably append it to the bottom of debian/copyright [04:22] sistpoty: there is GPL license 2.1 there PHP License.. [04:22] sistpoty: mysql and few more.... [04:22] marcin`: you can strip the GPL from it... but you need to mention what's covered in by gpl [04:23] marcin`: you can strip only licences that are under /usr/share/common-licenses [04:23] marcin`: what's covered by thte php license? [04:24] ajmitch: propably nothing [04:24] I hope so [04:24] otherwise ftp-master will probably reject it [04:24] http://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html [04:24] ajmitch: aaaah I know why its there [04:25] ajmitch: it's because installation package for windows containst php and apache bundled in single package [04:25] and are you shipping any of that source? [04:25] ajmitch: no [04:26] you know in windows they wanted to provide 'single click' installation [04:26] so they bundled apache/php/mysqlserver+vtiger [04:27] marcin`: if nothing is covered by the source or binary by a license, you can of course remove that one as well [04:28] this license definetly needs more work [04:28] this guy ArneBosse is vtiger developer [04:28] oh, nice [04:28] and he stripped everything he could [04:28] dolson: here? === fbond|away is now known as fbond [04:29] fbond: always [04:29] from license - he propably wanted to hmm hide sugarcrm license somewhere deep under [04:29] no kidding...i think you just may be here always [04:29] marcin`: filed an ITP/RFP for it in debian? [04:29] ajmitch: unfortunately he filed ITP [04:30] he? [04:30] ArneBosse [04:30] (icr nick) [04:30] ok [04:30] and does he have packages also? [04:30] http://fboudra.free.fr [04:30] his web page [04:31] what do you mean - 'does he have' ? [04:31] just that [04:31] he filed an ITP, has he worked on packages? [04:31] no we work together on this package [04:31] then why is it unfortunate that he has filed the ITP? [04:31] we started independent - there is bounty in launchpad [04:32] because he was first :) [04:32] yes I saw the package & even though about packaging it myself [04:32] and afaik debian packages are more important than these in ubuntu [04:32] while I didn't want to make package for debian - I don't use debian - just ubuntu [04:33] dolson: eh, i was looking at packaging freecycle [04:33] and I didn't know about ITP and things like that [04:33] if debian updated a little more.. [04:33]