[12:00] <SealyDave> wlan0 no such device
[12:00] <LjL> OmegaAlpha: but seveas always forgets to mentions they're also extremely annoying
[12:00] <SealyDave> sees the driver , not the hardware
[12:00] <david> I get bash: ./configure: File or directory doesn't exist
[12:00] <Seveas> LjL, sorry
[12:00] <OmegaAlpha> Seveas, lol ok and here i thought you kicked it because they are annoying
[12:00] <LjL> david: try "autoconf"
[12:00] <benkong2> !usb
[12:00] <ubotu> benkong2: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:00] <anto9us> benkong2, dmesg should have noticed it
[12:00] <rockyburt> hrm, is wine totally dead on dapper atm?  i run wine and all i get is "Killed"
[12:01] <LjL> david: (what the heck are you trying to compile? =)
[12:01] <david> command not found
[12:01] <david> a simple hello world in anjuta
[12:01] <anto9us> SealyDave, have you checked for hardware compatibility on ndiswrapper website?
[12:01] <kurt_> bin wohl zu plde
[12:01] <benkong2> anto9us; [ 2287.275927]  usb 3-5: device not accepting address 33, error -71 this is my dmesg error
[12:01] <LjL> david: oh.. i'm not sure anjuta creates a standard autoconf/make setup, never used it
[12:02] <SealyDave> yeah it says compatible
[12:02] <xerox_> Weee.
[12:02] <rukuartic> SealyDave, I think I might be able to help you
[12:02] <anto9us> benkong2, maybe it's not compatible with the kernel, try googling it
[12:02] <rukuartic> SealyDave, Open up a console and type "lsusb"
[12:02] <SealyDave> ok
[12:02] <benkong2> anto9us; ok thanks
[12:03] <SealyDave> nothin, just returns to prompt
[12:03] <xerox_> There's something WRONG with the latest kernel...
[12:03] <rukuartic> SealyDave, Thats odd...
[12:03] <taburete> hi where can I disable kernel modules to not load during startup?
[12:03] <Seveas> xerox_, file a bug
[12:03] <xerox_> It's tuned in a strange way, the CPUfreq doesn't go to 100% when I do computational-expensive things :-(
[12:03] <SealyDave> bigtime, usb port is good because lights come on during POST
[12:03] <rukuartic> SealyDave, Type in "wheris lsusb"
[12:03] <xerox_> Compilation takes ages!
[12:04] <Seveas> taburete, echo 'blacklist name_of_module_here' sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist
[12:04] <rukuartic> SealyDave, "whereis lsusb" that is
[12:04] <LjL> kurt_: really, most of us don't understand what you're saying. *i* don't understand what you're saying. wir verstehen nicht was du sagst auf deutsch. ob du schriebst "  /join #ubuntu-de   ", so wirst du eine fenster sehen da du kannst mit deutche auf deutsch sprechen
[12:04] <SealyDave>  yeah got hit on that
[12:04] <slide> After a recent kernel upgrade my boot screen is now the Kubuntu one, is there anyway to switch it back to the gnome one?
[12:05] <kurt_> ubuntu-de funktioniert nicht
[12:05] <kickerdog> So how is everyone, just peachy i hope?
[12:05] <antisocial_boris> help, totem randomly stopped working
[12:05] <Seveas> slide, update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:05] <elodie> #moi
[12:05] <bosco> so what is the best movie/dvd player for ubuntu
[12:05] <rukuartic> SealyDave, try typing in "lsusb" again at the prompt
[12:05] <apt514> LjL How do i connect 2 pc with 1 crossover cat5 cable 1-3-2-6?
[12:05] <duckdown> Hey all.. I've done an apt-get install openssl but I still can't connect to SSL IRC servers..  What else do I need to do?
[12:06] <SealyDave> nothing just returns to promt
[12:06] <LjL> kurt_: es funktioniert fur mich... ich bin jetzt da! wo schriebst du "/join #ubuntu-de"? du sollst das hier schrieben -- ohne    "    aber mit dem   #   und den   /
[12:06] <slide> Seveas, thank you! :)
[12:06] <rukuartic> kurt_, Das blinken lights? ;)
[12:06] <LjL> apt514: ah, don't ask me, rather, the day i'll start knowing by heart what the correct crossover cable connections are, kill me :)
[12:06] <kickerdog> Why doesn't ubuntu natively support .rpm?
[12:06] <rukuartic> kickerdog, cuz its got apt-get :P
[12:06] <LjL> kickerdog: why doesn't fedora natively support .deb?
[12:07] <russellc> because it's debian based?
[12:07] <rukuartic> kickerdog, I think you could apt-get install rpm
[12:07] <rukuartic> XD Debian based people are so lazy
[12:07] <Seveas> rukuartic, au contraire
[12:07] <kickerdog> doesn't want to work for me...
[12:07] <rukuartic> Its like "Darn... I want to install something. APT GET!!"
[12:07] <Seveas> .rpm packages are oftem much worse than .deb packages
[12:07] <rukuartic> kickerdog, Did you set up the universe repositories?
[12:07] <OmWezAddams> apt514 http://www.gccprinters.com/support/doc/crossover.html
[12:07] <rukuartic> Seveas, IMO I like to ./configure make && make install
[12:08] <Juhaz> your loss
[12:08] <Seveas> rukuartic, then gentoo is the distro for you ;)
[12:08] <rukuartic> Seveas, Ahaha... I'm not that smart of a linux user
[12:08] <Seveas> rukuartic, you don;t need to be smart to use it
[12:08] <kickerdog> OmWez, thanks, i'm a noob to linux
[12:08] <rukuartic> Seveas, I wish I was :P
[12:08] <braniff> i thought gentoo was the *emerge* distro
[12:08] <rukuartic> SealyDave, Thats really odd...
[12:09] <rukuartic> SealyDave, look here to see what driver you should be using... http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[12:09] <lullabud> i'm having problems with my trackpad in ubuntu.  i can't disable tap-to-click...
[12:09] <theSamo> anyone knows a decent PSX emulator for linu
[12:09] <theSamo> linux^
[12:09] <Makaraki> Hi guys, can you help me? I want to install java plugins into firefox1.5 in my ubuntu
[12:10] <lullabud> i've tried changing xorg.conf a few different ways, tried a few different tools, verified my /dev/input/event#'s...  no luck.
[12:10] <OmegaAlpha> itll be nice to know how to burn psx games and play them without the chip
[12:10] <darthbutcher> !amarok
[12:10] <ubotu> amarok is, like, totally, a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[12:10] <Twisty> Any help on installing cedega i type the command in sudo dpkg  -i, but it says it cant find file.
[12:10] <oklinux> how do you like ubuntu trappist ?
[12:10] <MisterN> n8
[12:11] <antisocial_boris> why would totem randomly stop working, i cant use "totem movie.avi" or even open it with a point and click
[12:12] <rukuartic> Anyone having problems with the universe repositories? I'm getting something nasty about not being able to stat source the package list
[12:12] <Zoroaster> how do I start webmin after I install it
[12:12] <IdleOne> Twisty:  cd Desktop the try the dpkg -i
[12:12] <rukuartic> Zoroaster, webmin, I think...
[12:12] <theSamo> PSX games are just CD ISOs , you can burn them anytime
[12:12] <SealyDave> Card: Linksys #[WUSB54Gv4] , 802.11b/g, USB 2.0 -- [link here|List#WUSB54Gv4] 
[12:12] <Makaraki> Hi guys, can you help me? I want to install java plugins into firefox1.5 in my ubuntu, but when I try to clic on install-plugins it saids me that I have to install it manually, there are several plugins but I haven't see anything for ubuntu
[12:12] <theSamo> or mount them for what matters
[12:12] <Auci> I got that error and re downloaded all again, the error went away
[12:13] <IdleOne> !java
[12:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:14] <lampshade> Will Ubuntu auto add printers and such?  I have a headless ubuntu box that I just attached a printer to.  Eventually I would like to print to it via cups, but before I go looking up the networking aspect, I thought I should test to see if the printer works by sshing to the box and going from there.  Any advice on where to begin?
[12:15] <Auci> Im very frustrated, were in wiki I can learn to install nvidia drivers?
[12:15] <fidelo> oleeeeeeee
[12:15] <fidelo> ya tengo mis 70hz
[12:16] <Twisty> what ever I guess I will just buy cedega
[12:16] <Twisty> it's a good cause
[12:16] <Twisty> :P
[12:16] <Angel_Dex> How do i run Oneko?
[12:17] <manthar> bits
[12:17] <vlauzums> hi: does anyone know of a package in synaptic that would let me create business cards (lay out the sheet to print, etc)
[12:18] <rukuartic> vlauzums, Tried Open Office?
[12:18] <vortex_2nd> kurt_, du brauchst hilfe ?
[12:18] <vlauzums> rukartic: i didn't know it made business cards, wow!
[12:18] <andywg> sure this has come up loads of times, is there a good guide to show how to get ubuntu to recognise and mount SATA drives?
[12:18] <rukuartic> vlauzums, It does a lot of stuff... lemme see if I can help you out
[12:18] <manthar> hello i have a probleme with my sb live 24 bits
[12:18] <russellc> anybody know of any way to mount bin/cue files?
[12:19] <vlauzums> rukartic: thanks a bunch, i wonder which one lets me do that
[12:19] <Seveas> russellc, convert them to iso with bchunk
[12:19] <shira> hi, how do I make ubuntu (5.10) automount my FAT partition upon boot?
[12:19] <rukuartic> vlauzums, It should be "writer"... it comes preinstalled
[12:19] <russellc> thanks
[12:19] <Seveas> !tell shira about diskmounter
[12:19] <rukuartic> shira, I think thats in /etc/fstab if I'm not correct...
[12:19] <we2by_> is there a app like partition magic for linux to edit my hd?
[12:20] <lullabud> we2by: try qtparted
[12:20] <russellc> we2by_: gparted
[12:20] <shira> thanks =)
[12:20] <lullabud> tap-to-click on this trackpad is driving me nuts... =/
[12:20] <SealyDave> whats the command to check your kernel version
[12:20] <lampshade> uname
[12:21] <lampshade> uname -a for all kernel info
[12:21] <rukuartic> vlauzums, Go open up Open Office Writer
[12:22] <vlauzums> rukartic: thanks a lot, i've got it working! let me know if there's anything i can do for ya =] 
[12:22] <rukuartic> vlauzums, Click File>New>Business Card
[12:22] <LjL> we2by_: or just parted...  sorry, i just wanted to be part of the parted
[12:22] <rukuartic> vlauzums, No problem
[12:22] <rukuartic> Anyone know how I can find the right driver for my printer? I keep choosing the wrong ones and the page either prints out too small, too big, or too light
[12:23] <edgarin> Hi
[12:23] <LjL> rukuartic: tried linuxprinting.org?
[12:23] <edgarin> I buy a camera for my ubuntu is a DLink-DSB-C120
[12:23] <rukuartic> LjL triumphs again!!
[12:23] <jerrod> i love linux!  i just got it a couple weeks ago and im not that computer savy, however, ive been taking in a lot of information regarding this os, and now, LINUS TOURVALDS IS TEH FRACKIN' MAN!  WOOT!
[12:24] <Meuro> im a bit of a linux noob and i tried to install ubuntu 5.10 but i froze during the installation.  it would get past the bit where u download everything for the cd to the hd and then start installing packages.  but it would then get stuck at 71%.  any ideas?
[12:24] <LjL> jerrod: torvalds is mad. i mean, really. but yeah he did write a nice system
[12:25] <Infecto> LjL: why mad ? ;) explain.
[12:25] <we2by_> do I need to install codecs to play wmv file with vlc player?
[12:25] <jerrod> still, the frackin man he is -yoda on linux
[12:25] <OmegaAlpha> !samba
[12:25] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:25] <we2by_> !codecs
[12:25] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:25] <LjL> Meuro: first off, you should check that your disc is not broken. use the md5sum command, and check its results against the MD5SUMS file in the ubuntu mirrors
[12:25] <we2by_> !easysource
[12:25] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:26] <LjL> Infecto: google for "linus torvalds desktop flame"
[12:26] <david> make doesn't work in anjuta, but it works on shell...
[12:26] <Infecto> LjL: now my x servers is broken so ...
[12:26] <set> !flash
[12:26] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:27] <lullabud> echo "set completion-ignore-case On" >> ~/.inputrc
[12:27] <lullabud> that sure makes using the terminal easer!
[12:27] <lullabud> that really should be a standard option for a distro like ubuntu.
[12:27] <lullabud> same with bash_completion being enabled.
[12:27] <we2by_> do I need to install codecs to play wmv file with vlc player?
[12:27] <apt514> LjL Thanks for firestarter it's working
[12:28] <LjL> apt514: but i'm not sure i'm with you... are you still doing everything from the live cd?
[12:28] <Meuro> LjL: i have downloaded and burnt 2 disks off the site.  how do i do the md5sum command?  do i take a note of the check sums off the site and then .......?
[12:30] <LjL> Meuro: then run "md5sum image.iso" to check your ISO image, or "md5sum /dev/cdrom" to check the actual CD. if you don't have access to a Linux system, google for "md5sum windows", though i don't know what the equivalent of "md5sum /dev/cdrom" would be under windows
[12:30] <nixbox> hi all
[12:30] <Meuro> cool
[12:31] <nixbox> my wireless interface has successfully associated with an AP, but it fails to get an IP address from the DHCP server, I have tried dhclient on the wireless interface but of no use
[12:31] <mshade> nixbox, is this your AP?
[12:31] <mshade> and are you sure the AP is serving dhcp
[12:31] <apt514> LjL Live CD is spinning :)
[12:31] <LjL> Meuro: also, one quite standard troubleshooter is to boot the installation CD using "linux acpi=off" (is this correct?) instead of just pressing enter. but this is not really related to the problem you're having, it's just something people usually suggest to try when installation fails
[12:32] <nbound> !networking
[12:32] <ubotu> nbound: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:32] <nbound> !network
[12:32] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[12:32] <LjL> apt514: hm but then why are you installing all this stuff while you're on the live cd? you'll lose everything as soon as you reboot =)
[12:32] <nixbox> mshade, nah
[12:32] <nbound> !nfs
[12:32] <nixbox> mshade, school's AP
[12:32] <ubotu> well, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:32] <mesaboogie1> LjL: how do 'you'' control your ports (secure) ?
[12:33] <mshade> is there any encryption on it?  perhaps MAC filtering?
[12:33] <LjL> mesaboogie1: hm? you mean how do i firewall my system?
[12:33] <Meuro> LjL: two of the times that i tried to install and got stuck 71%, it got stuck at the acpi support installition package thing
[12:33] <nixbox> mshade, it works on windows
[12:33] <apt514> LjL I'll save to floppy the deb
[12:33] <Psykus> anyone know what version of ndiswrapper is included on the latest ubuntu release?
[12:33] <nixbox> mshade, windows does get an IP address using DHCP
[12:33] <mesaboogie1> yes, if you don't proxy/(etc?)
[12:33] <LjL> Meuro: well, give the acpi thing a try, it won't do any harm anyway... but check with someone else that "linux acpi=off" is the correct syntax, i'm not 100% sure
[12:34] <IdleOne> !ndiswrapper
[12:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:34] <mshade> nixbox, does dhclient throw any errors or just time out?
[12:34] <LjL> apt514: but if you're installing stuff with "sudo aptitude install", you won't *have* the .deb
[12:34] <nixbox> mshade, times out
[12:34] <LjL> apt514: (also, most of that stuff will be bigger than a floppy =)
[12:34] <nixbox> mshade, it says no offers received
[12:34] <apt514> Yeah true i think the fs is 300k
[12:35] <mshade> nixbox, ifconfig shows how many interfaces besides 'lo' ?
[12:35] <Psykus> well, i'm trying to install the latest stable version of ndiswrapper, 1.10, and I guess the make script is trying to run gcc-3.4, when my release of ubuntu only has gcc-4.0
[12:36] <nixbox> mshade, ifconfig shows eth1, iwconfig verifies that eth1 has associated with an AP
[12:36] <mshade> nixbox, try dhclient eth1
[12:36] <apt514> LjL about 2mb uncompressed
[12:36] <mshade> nixbox, instead of just dhclient
[12:36] <nixbox> mshade, i had tried just that
[12:36] <Psykus> is there any way to install gcc-3.4 alongside 4.0?
[12:36] <mshade> nixbox, does iwconfig report the MAC address of the associated AP ?
[12:36] <LjL> apt514: well it's the compressed size that matters
[12:36] <LjL> Psykus: sure
[12:37] <nixbox> mshade, several times, i dont know why is it not working, i ran tcpdump on eth1 and verified that the DHCP request is sent on the network
[12:37] <LjL> Psykus: "sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4", and then "export CC=gcc-3.4" before compiling
[12:37] <nixbox> mshade, yes it does give the MAC address of AP
[12:37] <apt514> LjL on port 445 the firestarter blocked MS-ds?
[12:37] <mshade> nixbox, that's really strange.  what wireless card
[12:38] <mshade> nixbox, sudo apt-get install dhcpcd -- not sure if that's available, but it's an alternative to dhclient
[12:38] <nixbox> mshade, Intel Pro Wireless 2915 ABG
[12:38] <apt514> LjL from my isp too
[12:38] <Psykus> LjL, this will try to pull it from the internet, or from my ubuntu CD?
[12:38] <LjL> apt514: hm, don't really know. perhaps that's samba or something
[12:38] <nixbox> mshade, using ipw2200 drivers along with wpa_supplicant
[12:38] <LjL> Psykus: internet, as gcc is not there in your cd
[12:38] <mshade> nixbox, i wasn't aware that 2200 drivers are compatible with the 2915 -- but if it is, that's good to know
[12:38] <mesaboogie1> !security
[12:38] <ubotu> mesaboogie1: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:38] <nixbox> mshade, yup
[12:38] <ghoulee> any idea how to type a double quote with an UK keyboard?  I just get this 
[12:38] <Psykus> oh, there's the kicker, i'm trying to get my wireless card working :|
[12:39] <mshade> nixbox, try installing dhcpcd
[12:39] <mesaboogie1> !firewall
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[12:39] <mshade> 'dhcp client daemon'
[12:39] <ghoulee> which is unicode and not ASCII
[12:39] <Meuro> LjL: i checked the dvd and cd i downloaded with the md5 thing and its says they are good so i havent downloaded webshit
[12:39] <Meuro> :)
[12:39] <La_PaRCa> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb 22 23:35:46 2006 <-- how do I fix that?
[12:40] <mesaboogie1> yay!
[12:40] <LjL> Meuro: hmm, well, then i guess trying with acpi off is the only option that cames to my mind right now... you could also try installing from another CD drive if you have one
[12:40] <luowei> who can help me?I have some questions to os.
[12:40] <Kyral> luowei: just fire away
[12:40] <Kyral> Linus' Law is in effect :P
[12:40] <IdleOne> luowei:  ask away
[12:41] <luowei> ok ,thanks
[12:41] <mesaboogie1> i like that md5sum /dev/cdrom thing
[12:41] <mesaboogie1> !cheatcodes
[12:41] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mesaboogie1
[12:41] <Meuro> ok.  might try changing drives.  see the 'linux acpi=off' thing... do i type that instead of 'install' at the start when i boot from cd?
[12:41] <LjL> La_PaRCa: try "sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart"
[12:41] <odla> La_PaRCa: ntpdate?
[12:42] <La_PaRCa> LjL, I changed my date by hand
[12:43] <nixbox> mshade, sorry was thrown off :P
[12:43] <odla> La_PaRCa: you could also synchronize your clock with a server using ntpdate
[12:43] <nixbox> mshade, so what did you say?
[12:43] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, no - sudo -K
[12:43] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, do that a few times
[12:43] <LjL> Meuro: you usually have to type "install"? if so, it might be "install acpi=off"... not really sure
[12:43] <ezu> what package holds the openssl development libraries and the openssl binary?
[12:43] <mshade> nixbox, try installing dhcpcd -- sudo apt-get install dhcpcd
[12:44] <odla> Meuro: you should have to type install...just hitting enter installs
[12:44] <mshade> i'm not sure if that's available in the repos, but it's worth a shot.  it's a different dhcp client
[12:44] <odla> Meuro: just type apci=off
[12:44] <wickers> anyone here use espresso yet?
[12:44] <odla> wickers: yes
[12:44] <wickers> How's it run?
[12:44] <La_PaRCa> ompaul, Already tried that, still get timestamp error
[12:44] <THX_8311> What's the difference from using Ubuntu from using Debian?  I'm thinking of trying one or the other.
[12:44] <Meuro> cool.  thanks guys.  ill disappear off and try that
[12:44] <odla> wickers: i installed ubuntu from the live cd...so pretty good...but if you're a newbie i would wait a bit
[12:44] <odla> wickers: there are some quirks
[12:44] <shira> ubuntu is updated and debian isn't?
[12:44] <LjL> THX_8311: ubuntu is a bit more refined for desktop use
[12:45] <wickers> odla, not a noobie, what sort of quirks?
[12:45] <LjL> shira: not really
[12:45] <amphi> debian is stable and ubuntu isn't?
[12:45] <LjL> shira: quite the contrary, if compared to debian testing
[12:45] <wickers> (it's a beta, so I expect issues)
[12:45] <ompaul> La_PaRCa, you have to do it a few times
[12:45] <shira> LjL: eh, just saying what some people said =P
[12:45] <mesaboogie1> THX_8311: and they're both debian?
[12:45] <odla> wickers: i had to use gparted several times to actually get my partitions set up
[12:45] <LjL> amphi: debian stable is stable, debian unstable is not :)
[12:45] <amphi> LjL: er, yeah ;)
[12:45] <wickers> odla, will it use a pre-partitioned drive?
[12:45] <odla> wickers: but once i got everything set up right...it installed with no hitch
[12:45] <Waggie> I've got an ATI card and I followed instructions for setting up the fglrx drivers...  fglrxinfo is still showing Mesa Indirect, even though my Xorg.log.0 shows that DRI is enabled.
[12:45] <THX_8311> I was actually thinking of trying kubuntu.  I all ready made a disk for it.
[12:45] <wickers> I usually stick to fdisk for partitioning
[12:45] <Waggie> Any suggestions, folks?
[12:46] <odla> wickers: sure...you'll need to tell it which ones are the / and the /swap
[12:46] <LjL> shira: well, some people are wrong... debian stable tends to be quite old, but debian testing is far more bleeding-edge than ubuntu. and also kind of less stable and less refined
[12:46] <amphi> THX_8311: if you like kde, go for it
[12:46] <odla> wickers: though it might autodetect those for you
[12:46] <wickers> odla, then it sounds good to me. :)
[12:46] <THX_8311> I'm on suse 10 now and I tried gnome.  It felt like I was in a NAZI death camp.
[12:46] <odla> wickers: after gparted, which is the default partitioning tool with espresso, the install went smoothly and it installed quicker than the debian installer
[12:46] <LjL> THX_8311: if you want to use KDE, then installing kubuntu is the best choice - but even if you install ubuntu, getting KDE on it is quite easy (and vice versa)
[12:46] <wickers> I like the idea of installing from a live disc... reminds me of OS9.
[12:46] <ezu> pls some help with this openssl packages? i tired installing libssl0.9.7 but that apparently is not what i was looking for.. any suggestions as to the correct packages for the development and the binaries?
[12:47] <nbound> !printer
[12:47] <ubotu> printer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:47] <LjL> THX_8311: is your surname torvalds? anyway, people don't use terms like that here... (really)
[12:47] <odla> wickers: very impressed...also you'll need to remove some meta packages and espresso once you've installed it cause you won't need espresso once it's installed to your hard drive and the ubuntu-live metapackage can go
[12:47] <mesaboogie1> haha THX_8311
[12:47] <THX_8311> No.
[12:47] <nbound> hmmm, is there anything taht will allow you to run windows printer drivers in linux
[12:47] <shira> LjL: of course. Ubuntu's latest is unstable but bleeding-edge =)
[12:47] <odla> wickers: for dapper chat...btw....use #ubuntu+1
[12:48] <odla> wickers: it was nice to install dapper while chatting on irc from the live cd on the same computer
[12:48] <wickers> odla, yeah I know, ;)
[12:48] <braniff> nbound, can use windows postscript drivers in linux using cups i believe
[12:48] <LjL> shira: yeah, but the experimental version of ubuntu is *really* unstable, while debian unstable is quite usable usually :)
[12:48] <LjL> shira: (though i think right now dapper is at a point where it's reaching stability, but i haven't tried it myuself)
[12:48] <THX_8311> KDE and Gnome need to join forces.  They both have things I like and things that get on my nerves.  I find gnome more stable but KDE easier to use and change.  I want both damn it.
[12:48] <odla> LjL: sid is usuable...most of the time
[12:49] <wickers> odla, Yeah but you can also bootstrap Debian from a running liveCD too... or do a gentoo install from knoppix...
[12:49] <nbound> braniff, errr???
[12:49] <LjL> THX_8311: kde easy to use? nah :)
[12:49] <braniff> nbound, http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[12:49] <shira> LjL: i get your point
[12:49] <odla> wickers: yeah i know i've just never used a live cd install usually just do it the old fashion way
[12:49] <nbound> will they work with my printer?
[12:49] <moonlite> THX_8311: they have two quite different philosophies on how to conquer the desktop.
[12:49] <LjL> THX_8311: anyway, yeah, i mostly share your opinion, but let's have patience... the two desktops are exploring different paths. i'm sure they'll exploit the best things they find along their path. maybe.
[12:49] <wickers> Actually, I installed ubuntu 4.10 on a system that would not boot the install cd by bootstrapping it from knoppix... had  a full knoppix system at hand while it did 90% of the install.
[12:50] <THX_8311> I like how KDE has mroe features for changing some of things I like to change but I also find it less stable then gnome.  So I like both.
[12:50] <braniff> nbound, dunno, but you can check at http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[12:50] <mshade> nixbox, any lucK?
[12:50] <LjL> moonlite: yeah, kde conquers it by literally conquering it -- it doesn't leave one pixel of it free =)
[12:50] <moonlite> :)
[12:50] <wickers> odla, it's nifty...
[12:50] <odla> wickers: ha ha
[12:50] <amphi> THX_8311: openbox might be a solution to your dilemma ;)
[12:50] <THX_8311> I'm looking it up now.
[12:50] <odla> wickers: and dapper seems pretty stable right now
[12:51] <nbound> braniff, heh my printer isnt listed
[12:51] <moonlite> LjL: i watched a friend of mine configure KDE. Damn, there are sooooo many useless options. :)
[12:51] <mesaboogie1> me2
[12:51] <LjL> amphi: problem is, most everyday programs are either KDE or Gnome apps. so in my opinion using a third desktop is nearly pointless, when you'll still have the KDE and Gnome libs (and all the features/quirks of Gnome and KDE) with you
[12:51] <Travis> startkeylogger
[12:51] <Travis> oops
[12:52] <linuxnewbie> hello. is this a place where one can ask really stupid questions about linux as well or shouldnt i bother?
[12:52] <LjL> moonlite: yeah, and gnome decided to remove all of them. and then some.
[12:52] <nbound> linuxnewbie, we are here to answer questions
[12:52] <odla> linuxnewbie: probably
[12:52] <LjL> linuxnewbie: if they're question about ubuntu, yeah
[12:52] <braniff> nbound, it may still work using a postscript driver -- check you printer driver cd for a file with extension PPD
[12:52] <we2by_> how do I allow a user to mount a partition?
[12:52] <THX_8311> I only have 256 MB or ram so using a 3rd desktop might be more practical anyway.
[12:53] <nbound> braniff thanx
[12:53] <linuxnewbie> yes. im planning to install ubuntu soon. but i have never in my life installed linux before
[12:53] <odla> THX_8311: tried xfce4 or icewm?
[12:53] <braniff> np
[12:53] <LjL> THX_8311: bah, not if you end up running Gnome or KDE programs anyway
[12:53] <amphi> LjL: I prefer a light wm myself; as to libs, I tend to stick with gtk stuff - I don't use many X progs
[12:53] <linuxnewbie> and i can imagine its going to be a lot different
[12:53] <Makaraki> Ubotu: I had a look to the wiki.ubuntu and now it works thanks for the tip
[12:53] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Makaraki
[12:53] <LjL> amphi: well, if you can stick to that sort of choice of apps, then yeah, you have a point
[12:54] <THX_8311> I don't know about other distros but on suse 10 at least kde seems to run faster then gnome, but then it may be a suse thing and how they build the stuff on suse.
[12:54] <odla> linuxnewbie: installing ubuntu is easy
[12:54] <amphi> linuxnewbie: installing ubuntu should be pretty painless, and the 'desktop' is probably not wildly different
[12:54] <Makaraki> Ubotu: I had a look to the wiki.ubuntu and now it works thanks for the tip about Java plugin in firefox 1.5
[12:54] <ubotu> Makaraki: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[12:54] <linuxnewbie> so first question: can a person with no previous contact with linux be able to understand installing programs?
[12:54] <odla> Makaraki: ubotu is a bot :)
[12:54] <moonlite> LjL: i actually don't think they have removed anything that is important. I've heard that the printer-dialogs are pretty bad though, but they are being worked on at least
[12:54] <amphi> LjL: ncurses is still my favorite windowing toolkit ;)
[12:54] <jsestri2> which package should i dl to get emacs?
[12:54] <LjL> linuxnewbie: yeah, especially if he comes to this channel to ask how
[12:54] <jsestri2> straight up emacs21?
[12:54] <Makaraki> odla: ... newbie sometimes it hapends
[12:55] <THX_8311> When I first tired gnome it didn't seem and faster or slower then KDE.  Which is why I tried it first thinking it would be faster.
[12:55] <odla> !bot
[12:55] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:55] <LjL> amphi: mine is a punchcard reader :)
[12:55] <amphi> LjL: heh, not toggle-switches?
[12:55] <nbound> linuxnewbie, linux isnt THAT much different than windows, if u can use windows u can do the majority of stuff u need to do in linux as well
[12:55] <asymmetry> GNOME: less cluttered.
[12:55] <nbound> braniff, no ppd file :(
[12:56] <LjL> amphi: no, i don't like point-and-toggle interfaces, i am for real computing
[12:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jsestri2: the 'emacs21' package, naturally :)
[12:56] <odla> linuxnewbie: ubuntu is nice cause the default applications are really good
[12:56] <linuxnewbie> good to hear. but im using a laptop computer and im worried if ubuntu recognises all the integrated sound and graphic things?
[12:56] <odla> linuxnewbie: what laptop?
[12:56] <linuxnewbie> fujitsu siemens amilo
[12:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jsestri2: It covers all necessary dependencies.
[12:56] <amphi> linuxnewbie: what are the sound and grpahics things?
[12:56] <we2by_> how do I mount a partition and making it owned by that user and not root?
[12:56] <jsestri2> PuMpErNiCkLe: ok thanks
[12:56] <Fujitsu> What? Me?
[12:56] <Burgwork> linuxboy, try the livecd. If it detects the hardware, mostly likely the install will as well
[12:56] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[12:56] <Fujitsu> There.
[12:56] <LjL> linuxnewbie: who knows? but you can safely try running the Ubuntu Live CD to see how much of it it recognizes "out of the box"
[12:56] <Fujitsu> Oops.
[12:57] <odla> linuxnewbie: does it with a live cd?
[12:57] <Burgwork> linuxnewbie,  try the livecd. If it detects the hardware, mostly likely the install will as well
[12:57] <ubuntu_> witam
[12:57] <braniff> nbound, you are out of luck then with that printer
[12:57] <Makaraki> ok good night people, its time to sleep in spain
[12:57] <nbound> braniff, bugger :(
[12:57] <ubuntu_> ktos po polsku spik??
[12:57] <LjL> we2by: ubotu's link should give you some tips about that
[12:57] <Twisty> Hey will cedega install a Ventrilo Client?
[12:57] <linuxnewbie> yes, i was looking for the live cd but wasnt able to find a download for it
[12:57] <Burgwork> linuxnewbie, as the live and install cds use the same drivers and hardware detection
[12:57] <amphi> !tell ubuntu_ about pl
[12:57] <odla> linuxnewbie: http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~iiska/articles/ubuntu_in_a7620.html
[12:57] <we2by> !mount
[12:57] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:57] <Burgwork> linuxnewbie, http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/
[12:57] <we2by> !usermount
[12:57] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, we2by
[12:58] <odla> !livecd
[12:58] <linuxnewbie> so the live cd is something that acts as an operating system?
[12:58] <odla> !tell linuxnewbie about livecd
[12:58] <Burgwork> linuxnewbie, yes
[12:58] <linuxnewbie> but i wont have to install anything?
[12:58] <LjL> linuxnewbie: you download it from the same place you download the install cd
[12:59] <Burgwork> linuxnewbie, no, it only uses your ram. it does not touch your harddrive
[12:59] <LjL> linuxnewbie: no, you won't. and it won't touch your HD data
[12:59] <nbound> linuxnewbie, the live cd IS an operating system contained on a cd, it wont touch ur hard drive at all :)
[12:59] <ubuntu_> JEST KTOS Z POLSKI???
[12:59] <nbound> !pl
[12:59] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[12:59] <sobersabre> hi.
[12:59] <linuxnewbie> good. so i can try all the features with a live cd first and see if i understand anything and be able to use ubuntu
[12:59] <sobersabre> is dapper going to be with Xgl  ?
[01:00] <nbound> linuxnewbie, yeppity :P
[01:00] <MacSlow> sobersabre, likely
[01:00] <mesaboogie1> hehe, unless you 'want' it to, that is linuxnewbie
[01:00] <Burgwork> MacSlow, sobersabre not by default, but it (and aiglx) are already packaged
[01:00] <ezu> dont ati drivers not support the composit manager?
[01:00] <colm> !xgl
[01:00] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:00] <sobersabre> Burgwork is there a backport for breezy ?
[01:00] <linuxnewbie> thats great. so i will download a live cd and then ill be back to bother you soon
[01:01] <linuxnewbie> thanks a lot
[01:01] <MacSlow> Burgwork, I was about to mention that too :)
[01:01] <Burgwork> sobersabre, not currently
[01:01] <Burgwork> sobersabre, xgl and aiglx are really truly not stable
[01:01] <sobersabre> hmm.. how usable is dapper then ?
[01:01] <Burgwork> quite
[01:01] <OmegaAlpha> anyone here use samba?
[01:01] <LjL> linuxnewbie: i suggest you try the live cd, reboot your computer, set your BIOS to use the CD-ROM as its first boot drive (unless it's already set to do that), and let Ubuntu start. it will ask you a couple of questions, such as your location and language, but nothing special. when the system is running, you can click on Applications, Internet (i think?) and there you will find an IRC client (x-chat) which will automatically connect to this chann
[01:01] <torpedo|dog> OmegaAlpha, I do.
[01:02] <Twisty> Hey will cedega install a Ventrilo Client?
[01:02] <sobersabre> OmegaAlpha yes, somebody in here uses samba
[01:02] <tech_> hello guys, good  morning
[01:02] <colm> morning...
[01:02] <tech_> i really need help here
[01:02] <sobersabre> tech_ goodnight in here.
[01:02] <lullabud> tech_ good evening here.
[01:02] <D_o_C_T_o_R> :))
[01:02] <sobersabre> tech_ oh, really ?!?!
[01:02] <torpedo|dog> good afternoon in here.
[01:02] <tech_> sorry about
[01:03] <jochs> Does anyone know how to disable the screensaver on the login screen?
[01:03] <Raioneru> re
[01:03] <tech_> sorry about that
[01:03] <tech_> good nigth then
[01:03] <jochs> Referencing this forum thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=753563#post753563
[01:03] <OmegaAlpha> ok guys, im on the wiki page setting it up.. and the 'assumed that:' section says that network computers ip is 192.168.0.1 but mine is 192.168.1.1
[01:03] <mesaboogie1> good afternoon tech_
[01:03] <torpedo|dog> hm
[01:03] <sobersabre> tech_ : concentrate: what is the real things you want to ask ? we don't need foreplay in here.
[01:03] <nbound> braniff, after a text search several files refer to a *.ppd
[01:03] <dark_light> wich wget option stands for 'follow local links only' ?
[01:03] <LjL> OmegaAlpha: well, just change every instance of 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.1.1 :)
[01:03] <tech_> my problem is that i cant install a damn thing in my ubunto
[01:04] <nbound> braniff, possibly one hidden in a compressed file ?
[01:04] <tech_> theres always an error
[01:04] <Burgwork> jochs, gdm might have a setting for it
[01:04] <OmegaAlpha> ok so it doesnt matter then that its not a 0
[01:04] <sobersabre> tech_ and which error is that ?
[01:04] <JBadger> I have a question about initramfs and the last update made my system non-booting (same as https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/28984)
[01:04] <lullabud> OmegaAlpha: that's a minor difference.  you should actually change every instance of 192.168.0.x to 192.168.1.x
[01:04] <Fujitsu> What error, tech).
[01:04] <Fujitsu> *tech)
[01:04] <Fujitsu> *tech_
[01:04] <JBadger> put me on the queue
[01:04] <tech_> wait ill copy it this channel
[01:04] <LjL> OmegaAlpha: no, i don't think. well, the "standard first address" for private networks is 192.168.0.1, but there's nothing wrong with it being different. many routers like to have it different, afaik
[01:04] <sobersabre> tech_ if this is a multi line - DONT
[01:04] <Burgwork> tech_, please don;t flood
[01:04] <braniff> nbound, you could install the driver on a windows machine and search for *.ppd to find the file...
[01:04] <tech_> tech@edubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:04] <tech_> Password:
[01:04] <tech_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:04] <tech_> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:04] <tech_> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[01:04] <cheatersrealm> what package contains the man 3 entries such as strtoull ?
[01:04] <torpedo|dog> OmegaAlpha, no, it doesn't matter that it's not a 0
[01:04] <tech_> tech@edubuntu:~$
[01:05] <zebraFusion> Question
[01:05] <nbound> braniff, if only i had a windows machine :P
[01:05] <zebraFusion> I sudo apt-get remove'd apache2
[01:05] <colm> tech_ it's not recommended to paste in here...
[01:05] <tech_> what did i do wrong?
[01:05] <zebraFusion> Yet, the program still starts when I boot Ubuntu.
[01:05] <OmegaAlpha> r u guys familiar with the site?  the assumed that section is just confusing..
[01:05] <zebraFusion> Why.
[01:05] <LjL> tech_: ubotu has sent you a link about enabling some additional repositories, which you will need. also, please use the pastebin next time you need to paste something (look at the channel's topic)
[01:05] <tech_> sorry about that
[01:05] <nbound> anyone in here with a lexmark X1100 series printer?
[01:05] <torpedo|dog> OmegaAlpha, just so long as all of your computers are in the 192.168.1._ range
[01:05] <Fujitsu> manpages-dev, I think...
[01:05] <Fujitsu> ALthough I couldn
[01:05] <Fujitsu> *couldn't be sure
[01:05] <tech_> ok
[01:06] <stpere> zebraFusion, I think you have to remove an other package too
[01:06] <rukuartic> neiras, Hey... I installed xfce. Great window manager :D
[01:06] <braniff> nbound, could try installing the driver in wine
[01:06] <stpere> zebraFusion, wait a sec
[01:06] <Fujitsu> Yes, that's it.
[01:06] <rukuartic> neiras, Now the only problem I have is installing a printer X_x
[01:06] <zebraFusion> stpere, okay.
[01:06] <linuxnewbie> thanks again. see you soon. good night.
[01:06] <nbound> braniff, wine has no comapitibility for drivers
[01:06] <OmegaAlpha> i dont have a folder named linux that is shared.. my network cpu name isnt :myusername and network computers password isnt ;mypasswd
[01:06] <torpedo|dog> Does anybody in here use Beagle?
[01:06] <jochs> Burgwork - I don't see anything in gdm.conf that has to do with screen savers
[01:06] <Hawk80> hi How can I install MySQL in Ubuntu ?
[01:06] <Hawk80> hi How can I install MySQL in Ubuntu ?
[01:07] <rukuartic> Hawk80, If you're looking for quick and dirty, go for XAMPP
[01:07] <braniff> nbound, i just mean run the setup utility and get the ppd file to use with CUPS
[01:07] <braniff> in wine
[01:07] <Kyral> XAMPP?
[01:07] <jochs> I've been wracking my brain for days on this one, with no luck
[01:07] <eugman> Can I set my mouse middle click to close any minimized window it hits?
[01:07] <torpedo|dog> Hawk80, start up Synaptic Package Manager
[01:07] <colm> !tell Hawk80 about lamp
[01:07] <Burgwork> jochs, it was just a guess
[01:07] <OmegaAlpha> whoever wrote this page.. needs to learn to be specific
[01:07] <nbound> ohhh
[01:07] <rukuartic> Kyral, Yeah... Linux/Apache/PHP/MySQL preconfigured in a tgz package
[01:07] <torpedo|dog> !tell torpedo|dog about beagle
[01:07] <desousa2> hello there
[01:07] <stpere> zebraFusion, remove apache2-mpm-worker
[01:07] <torpedo|dog> !tell torpedo|dog about lamp
[01:07] <stpere> zebraFusion, apache2 is like a "holder" package
[01:07] <Kyral> rukuartic: nice
[01:08] <Kyral> though it ain't that hard...
[01:08] <jochs> Burgwork - no problem - I appreciate the help. It just sucks is all. :)
[01:08] <nbound> braniff, if worse comes to worse ill do ti
[01:08] <OmegaAlpha> if they are referring that the user enters their actual user name.. they should say.. enter your username not 'myusername' if they are going to put it like that it should at least say 'yourusername'
[01:08] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server-5.0
[01:08] <jochs> Burgwork - (Ack! I mean the situation sucks, not the help!)
[01:08] <tatters> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:08] <tatters> Does anyone know what that error means?
[01:08] <Burgwork> jochs, I understood
[01:09] <Burgwork> tatters, have you installed build-essential?
[01:09] <tatters> nope
[01:09] <desousa2> hello
[01:09] <tatters> so iNeed those?
[01:09] <zebraFusion> stpere, thanks.
[01:09] <desousa2> what is the bynarys for the distros
[01:09] <desousa2> for the distro?
[01:09] <desousa2> like is it red hat
[01:09] <tatters> well say mulit architecture
[01:09] <zebraFusion> stpere, do I need to remove any of the other packages?
[01:09] <Burgwork> desousa2, binaries are the actual programs that run. binaries are compiled from source
[01:09] <desousa2> (sorry im so noob)
[01:09] <tatters> muliti
[01:09] <lullabud> desousa2: .deb
[01:10] <stpere> zebraFusion, you could remove apache2-common
[01:10] <desousa2> :) thanx
[01:10] <Burgwork> tatters, build-essential installs all the packages you need compile
[01:10] <stpere> zebraFusion, use synaptic and search for apache2, you will some that you could remove
[01:10] <tatters> k borg thnx
[01:10] <desousa2> :) how can i convert .dat files to mpeg without green noise
[01:10] <tatters> burg
[01:10] <tatters> :/
[01:11] <tatters> too much star trek lol
[01:11] <LjL> is there !anybody who can !helpme getting ubuntu to avoid loding the (vesa and vga) framebuffer modules at boot?
[01:11] <tatters> so a binary is placed in sbin and ran from there?
[01:12] <Burgwork> tatters, if you compiling, you should put it in /opt
[01:12] <ufo> LjL: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:13] <LjL> ufo: hm but i'm almost sure the fb modules are loaded much earlier than when X starts... actually, i think usplash uses them. they're loaded from initrd afaik
[01:13] <tatters> k thnx, there is a binary version available also if i used that instead do I just place it in bin folder
[01:13] <Burgwork> tatters, what are you trying to do?
[01:13] <LjL> tatters: place anything that you install manually (i.e. not using APT) either in /usr/local or in /opt
[01:13] <amphi> LjL: video=vga should use standard vga instead of fb
[01:13] <LjL> tatters: (of course, that would be /usr/local/bin for binaries)
[01:13] <ufo> LjL: you could try to disable them from kernel conf and compile new kernel
[01:14] <pianoboy3333> pianoboy3333: hello?
[01:14] <pianoboy3333> lol
[01:14] <desousa2> :(
[01:14] <tatters> k thnx gotcha
[01:14] <apt514> LjL is samba enabled is breezy live?
[01:14] <LjL> amphi: i've tried "video=kyrofb:etcetc", which is the fb driver for my own card... now, the kyrofb module isn't in initrd, so the kernel ignores that straight. do you think it won't ignore video=vga?
[01:15] <LjL> ufo: yeah, i hoped there was a simpler way though ;)
[01:15] <LjL> apt514: i wouldn't know
[01:15] <amphi> LjL: shouldn't do, I would expect bog-standard vga to be builtin
[01:15] <amphi> LjL: otherwise, vga=ask perhaps
[01:15] <LjL> amphi: ok, thanks.
[01:15] <desousa2> is there any program that converts video files?
[01:16] <LjL> desousa2: mencoder (see mplayer), or transcode
[01:16] <amphi> LjL: Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt otherwise
[01:16] <ufo> what should i add to sources.list for mplayer install?
[01:16] <amphi> !mplayer
[01:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:16] <mesaboogie1> !breezy package list
[01:16] <ubotu> mesaboogie1: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:16] <lullabud> LjL: it's in the boot loader.
[01:17] <LjL> lullabud: what?
[01:17] <lullabud> you can add boot params like video=vga
[01:17] <IdleOne> mesaboogie1: package.ubuntu.com I believe
[01:17] <LjL> amphi: yeah, perhaps i better give it a look before rebooting
[01:17] <enz0_> are there any dapper developers in the house?
[01:17] <desousa2> LjL, i cant with the mencoder i have tryed
[01:17] <ufo> thx
[01:17] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way in firefox (1.5.0.1) to extend the bookmarks toolbar so there is two rows, or to make another bookmarks toolbar?
[01:18] <LjL> lullabud: oh yep i know that, don't worry. except i was just going to add it to menu.lst, but then there's not much of a difference
[01:18] <apt514> Where can i d/l ffox 1.5?
[01:18] <IdleOne> !firefox1.5
[01:18] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:18] <LjL> desousa2: try transcode then. i'm positive they're the two best transcoders around
[01:18] <mesaboogie1> !opera
[01:18] <ubotu> I guess opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[01:18] <desousa2> ok thanx
[01:19] <ufo> i have the dapper installed and cant find the mplayer in multiverse?
[01:20] <djp> i have installed vlc on my breezy os. do i need any plugins installed as well? i thought maybe the vlc-plugin-alsa might be an idea... what about vlc-plugin-sdl?
[01:20] <IdleOne> ufo:  #ubuntu+a for all your dapper needs
[01:20] <IdleOne> oops
[01:20] <IdleOne> #ubuntu+1
[01:20] <ufo> IdleOne: thx
[01:20] <IdleOne> np
[01:21] <tatters> Did everyone else feel they just going through the motions not entirely sure what your doing when first compiling ?
[01:21] <tatters> or should I be pretty dasmn sure I know what i am doing?
[01:21] <IdleOne> tatters for me its a YUP
[01:22] <amphi> desousa2: acidrip is a handy GUI FE to mencoder, FWIW
[01:22] <jsestri2> My sound is broken in breezy 5.10, the onboard audio seems to be recognized, however something in the chain is broken, not sure where. lspci: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[01:22] <jsestri2> any ideas?
[01:22] <amphi> jsestri2: the channels aren't muted?
[01:22] <jsestri2> amphi: no, i'm pretty sure something with amixer is messed up, but i dont know whats wrong with it
[01:23] <wastrel> jsestri2:  cat /dev/dsp  ?
[01:23] <jsestri2> watrel: whats that supposed to do?
[01:23] <wastrel> check if /dev/dsp is there :] 
[01:24] <PuppiesOnAcid> Does anyone here run Ubuntu on a laptop with a screen 12" or smaller, and if so, what kind of laptop is it?
[01:24] <torpedo|dog> wastrel, would that output a lot of garbage on stdout if /dev/dsp works?
[01:24] <wastrel> yes, ctrl-c stops it
[01:24] <jsestri2> wastrel: well i got a whole bunch of garbage
[01:24] <wastrel> heh sry old habit
[01:24] <wastrel> that's good
[01:24] <torpedo|dog> Well I already knew that, wastrel ;)
[01:24] <PuppiesOnAcid> Better yet, does anyone here run Ubuntu on a tablet or even just a normal laptop?
[01:24] <rukuartic> Linux doesn't want to recognize my printer... ><
[01:25] <rukuartic> I turn on the printer and it churns for a bit... but it just doesn't exist.
[01:25] <LjL> amphi: still insists on loading both vesafb and vga16fb (as well as other amenities) :\ perhaps i should try disabling usplash, maybe that's the thing that forces loading of those modules...?
[01:25] <JBadger> Is this the place to talk about boot problems?
[01:25] <IdleOne> JBadger:  yup
[01:25] <jsestri2> wastrel: any more ideas?
[01:25] <CuriousCat> hello!
[01:25] <colm> JBadger, what's up?
[01:25] <torpedo|dog> Does anybody here know where I could find the .debs for recent Beagles?
[01:26] <wastrel> jsestri2:  have you fooled around in the sound preferences thingy in the system menu?
[01:26] <IdleOne> torpedo|dog:  tried google?
[01:26] <jsestri2> wastrel: yes, i've messed with the sound options, as well as the multimedia selector
[01:26] <mikeo1> where can i download dapper flight cd4 packages?
[01:26] <IdleOne> !flight4
[01:26] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[01:27] <JBadger> colm: I did an apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday and myu system does not boot anymore.... initrd img is currupt and when I do --reinstall -- no go
[01:27] <torpedo|dog> IdleOne, yep
[01:27] <wastrel> jsestri2:  and alsamixer shows all your channels unmuted
[01:27] <akunin> guys, where's the right place to force the NIC into 100/Full during boot-up?
[01:27] <JBadger> I failed to make a boot disk.   I have a live and install CD but root=/dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root does not work
[01:27] <jsestri2> wastrel: alsa mixer is broken just like amixer...well almost exactly the same
[01:27] <wastrel> jsestri2:  how are they broken?
[01:28] <mesaboogie1> torpedo|dog: #debian-bots has a listing under debian, but ubot doesn't know?
[01:28] <jsestri2> wastrel: when i run alsamixer, i get: this alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[01:28] <Meuro> LjL: im back.  it didnt work.  the 'linux acpi=off' worked in that it got me to 77% this time where it fired an error at me and froze
[01:28] <mikeo1> so where can i download a package for flight 4?
[01:28] <jsestri2> !flight4
[01:28] <torpedo|dog> mesaboogie1, thanks
[01:28] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[01:29] <LjL> Meuro: agh. horrible. i don't really know, if the CD is ok i can only think of some hardware failure/incompatibility, or something... have you tried running memtest?
[01:29] <mikeo1> i have it installed, just dont have a working internet browser, need to download konqueror and install it
[01:29] <mikeo1> so where would i find a flight 4 package of konqueror?
[01:29] <jsestri2> wastrel: i found a few possible things that could be wrong via google, but none of the fixes solved anything
[01:29] <anto9us> Meuro, try noapic boot option as well
[01:29] <djp> can anyone advise about vlc?
[01:29] <andrew_> hey all - i need someone to help me with a shell script to download a bunch of files from the web. can someone recommend a channel?
[01:29] <IdleOne> mikeo1: #ubuntu=1 for your dapper needs
[01:29] <IdleOne> errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:30] <IdleOne> I need to fic that lol
[01:30] <PuppiesOnAcid> Anyone in here run a tablet laptop:
[01:30] <ompaul> mikeo1, head over to #ubuntu+1 that is
[01:30] <bushito> how can i change permission on multiple files in a folder?? =)
[01:30] <mikeo1> ok
[01:30] <IdleOne> thanks ompaul
[01:30] <JBadger> colm: do you know how to boot from the grub prompt?  I am able to mount my drives from the grup shell -- pivot_root something something?
[01:30] <LjL> mikeo1: i'm not following you. what would be wrong with a plain "sudo aptitude install konqueror"?
[01:30] <Meuro> LjL: nope. not tried memtest.  will do.  if it doesnt work ill let u know.  i figured i had better start looking for a different linux distro
[01:30] <mikeo1> its not on the cd
[01:30] <mesaboogie1> torpedo|dog: and when i google(lucky) beagle debian, it gives "alot/2much?" info @beaglewiki
[01:31] <LjL> Meuro: you could, but then the installer crashing so badly in my opinion means something is likely to be wrong with some of your hardware, so i think you should check
[01:31] <anto9us> djp, just ask your question, if someone knows, they'll answer :)
[01:31] <LjL> mikeo1: i know it's not on the cd
[01:31] <Burgwork> mikeo1, if you have Ubuntu, it is not on the cd. Download flight4 of Kubuntu and it will be
[01:31] <jochs> When I use xset, all I get is: "xset:  unable to open display "" " - what gives?
[01:31] <rukuartic> There anything around for automatically configuring printers?
[01:31] <Meuro> anto9us: is it noapic or typo and is noacpi ?
[01:31] <Burgwork> mikeo1, or install it
[01:31] <jochs> Sudo and root make no difference
[01:31] <LjL> mikeo1: "sudo aptitude install konqueror" will definitely get it from the net, like it does for every program
[01:31] <torpedo|dog> Ubuntu and Debian are largely binary-comaptible, right?
[01:31] <LjL> torpedo|dog: not really
[01:31] <djp> anto9us, i wondered what the different plugins do for vlc? which ones should i consider using?
[01:31] <Burgwork> torpedo|dog, sometimes
[01:32] <anto9us> Meuro, no typo, it's noapic and noacpi or both different options
[01:32] <torpedo|dog> Hmph.
[01:32] <mikeo1> cant connect to the net till i have konqueror installed, our school uses an network auth thing
[01:32] <mesaboogie1> 4real LjL??
[01:32] <desousa2> broken stream
[01:32] <mikeo1> and it doesnt recegnise firefox as linux
[01:32] <mikeo1> so wont let me connect through the login page
[01:32] <mesaboogie1> (please explain)
[01:32] <ReymiX> anybody can help me ?
[01:32] <anto9us> djp, which plugins? btw, did you used to frequent galaxynet?
[01:32] <colm> JBadger, have you tried booting into "rescue" via the breezy install disk?
[01:32] <LjL> mesaboogie1: you mean binary compatibility? yeah, for real, just google for "debian ubuntu binary compatibility" and you'll find plenty of flamewars :)
[01:33] <Meuro> thanks anto9us
[01:33] <mesaboogie1> okeydoke
[01:33] <JBadger> colm: did not help -- does that prompt for your current root part?
[01:33] <desousa2> how can i kill a process?
[01:33] <LjL> mikeo1: i could just give you the address for the konqueror package, but that would be utterly useless to you
[01:33] <LjL> desousa2: kill -s 9 processnumber
[01:34] <jsestri2> kill
[01:34] <moonlite> desousa2: "kill pid"
[01:34] <tyler> i just boot from a livecd to repair an existing system - how do I access the hard drive of my existing system?
[01:34] <desousa2> how can i see the prossenumber
[01:34] <JBadger> I get to a prompt with grub  ... seems that something is wrong with the last initrd-tools from security
[01:34] <moonlite> use "kill -9 pid" if it doesnt respond
[01:34] <djp> anto9us, vlc-plugin-alsa, vlc-plugin-esd, vlc-plugin-sdl etc. no i have never visited galaxynet... :)
[01:34] <LjL> desousa2: type "ps aux", or use "pidof programname"
[01:34] <tyler> desousa2:  ps -auxww to see existing processes & numbers
[01:34] <colm> JBadger, not a prompt, but you can mount and then chroot
[01:34] <desousa2> how can i see the prossenumber?
[01:34] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way in firefox (1.5.0.1) to extend the bookmarks toolbar so there is two rows, or to make another bookmarks toolbar?
[01:34] <jsestri2> folders?
[01:34] <LjL> desousa2: we just answered you
[01:34] <mesaboogie1> tyler: mount it, search it?
[01:35] <JBadger> I am at that point with the grub prompt.
[01:35] <JBadger> chroot etc --- just single user mode now
[01:35] <colm> JBadger, don't know grub route, sorry.  Anyone else?
[01:35] <anto9us> djp, if you're hearing sound and seeing the pictures ok then don't bother with them
[01:35] <coder2000> I am having problems with RythmBox not recognizing my mp3's
[01:35] <IdleOne> pianoboy3333:  check out firefox.com/extensions there might be something there
[01:35] <tyler> mesaboogie1:  yes, I would like to mount my system drive and change some of the files in /etc
[01:35] <jsestri2> wastrel: did you go afk?
[01:35] <coder2000> they are on an ntfs filesystem that I have mounted
[01:35] <moonlite> desousa2: you could also do "Applications -> System Tools -> System Monitor" and go from there
[01:35] <djp> anto9us, ok thanks
[01:36] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: ok
[01:36] <tyler> mesaboogie1:  and I have booted from a livecd - do you know the command to mount my system directory?
[01:36] <tyler> with read/write access
[01:36] <flodine> so hows dapper4 anyone
[01:36] <jsestri2> flodine: won't recognize my onboard NIC
[01:36] <pianoboy3333> IdleOne: It's mozilla.com/extensions
[01:37] <IdleOne> ok go for it pianoboy3333  ()
[01:37] <flodine> well did breezy see it
[01:37] <auk> w00t! i have dapper boot!
[01:37] <jsestri2> flodine: yes it did, breezy is being a bitch about my sound though
[01:37] <jsestri2> flodine: i guess you can't win
[01:37] <ompaul> auk, please take your dapper chat to #ubuntu+1
[01:37] <jsestri2> flodine: although i'll take network over sound any day
[01:37] <wastrel> sry got a phone call
[01:38] <jsestri2> wastrel: no worries, just wanted to know if i should ask someone else for help
[01:38] <flodine> well im problem free right now with dapper
[01:38] <mesaboogie1> sudo mnt /dev/hd*  , lsfstab ,dir /mnt  (excuse me, i'm new to linux and dir works, so)
[01:38] <anto9us> tyler, go to System | Administration | Disks, select the partition, enter a mount point and click enable, if it's NTFS you won't be able to write to it
[01:38] <auk> ompaul, i'm nto going to chat much. that's all i wanted to say :)
[01:39] <tyler> thankyou
[01:39] <ompaul> auk, :-)
[01:39] <flodine> how many more release for dapper
[01:39] <desousa2> :( sorry again but i dont seem to convert it right :S from vcd
[01:39] <IdleOne>  go to #ubuntu+1 for Dapper help :-)
[01:39] <tritium> !+1
[01:39] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tritium
[01:40] <moonlite> desousa2: conert what right?
[01:40] <moonlite> vcd?
[01:40] <wastrel> jsestri2:  feel free, i'm looking @ stuff but may not figure it out
[01:40] <desousa2> like from the vcd
[01:40] <desousa2> to mpeg
[01:40] <desousa2> or avi
[01:41] <flodine> jsestri2 so is there more beta comming for dapper
[01:41] <jsestri2> flodine: i'd guess there probaly is
[01:41] <ptlo> i feel stupid. how do i burn a cd using nautilus? i've got the files copy/pasted in the "Blank-CDR disc / CD creator" folder nautilus gave me when i inserted a blank disk
[01:41] <flodine> jsestri2 you on 32 bit
[01:42] <jsestri2> flodine: yes
[01:42] <IdleOne> ptlo:  use gnomebaker or k3b
[01:42] <moonlite> desousa2: oh ok. I would use mencoder for that. But that isn't very friendly. I don't know any good ui's though
[01:42] <zebraFusion> how can I install gtk1.0?
[01:42] <jsestri2> I need help with my audio: Breezy 5.10 seems to recognize my onboard Realtek ALC880, but something is broken between programs and the hardware, i'm pretty sure something with alsamixer is messed up, but i dont know whats wrong with it, any ideas?
[01:43] <AngryElf> uh, hey all, the ubuntu 5.10 installer didn't ask for a root password??
[01:43] <desousa2> cause i already try like to copy only the .dat files to HD then
[01:43] <desousa2> to use this
[01:43] <anto9us> ptlo, right click the iso and select burn
[01:43] <Davey> no...
[01:43] <IdleOne> !root
[01:43] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:43] <Davey> grr, my delete key doesn't work
[01:43] <mesaboogie1> (ie: binary compatability) >gosh, these people aren't very happy 'bout it"
[01:43] <desousa2> mencoder -oac copy -ovc copy foo.dat -of mpeg -o foo.mpg
[01:43] <Cooner750> anyone know where drivers for the VIA S3G UniChrome integrated card can be found?
[01:44] <jcooper> just to say DAPPER ROCKS :D
[01:44] <anto9us> ptlo, or, if it's a series of files, press ctrl+l in nautilus and type burn:
[01:44] <tyler> anto9s:  the livecd doesn't have the mnt command, and the System-Disk Manager says that the drive is inaccessable when I try to enable it.  wierd thing is that I can enable my other fat32 partition fine, but I need to access the ext3 partition instead to alter the system
[01:45] <tyler> any advice?
[01:45] <moonlite> desousa2: that seems like it could be ok. what happens?
[01:45] <ptlo> anto9us, IdleOne: thanks for the tips. i've created the iso and am now burning it with gnomebaker
[01:45] <wastrel> jsestri2:  lsmod and put the output on pastebin?
[01:45] <Cooner750> now my cd drive wont open...
[01:45] <jsestri2> wastrel: sure
[01:45] <bimberi> jcooper: :)
[01:46] <JBadger> colm: I got chroot to go
[01:46] <jsestri2> wastrel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9142
[01:46] <jcooper> bimberi: hehe... network manager, the new beagle ui... now just to play with xgl ;)
[01:46] <anto9us> tyler, try gparted, also, if you type anto and press tab, assuming your irc client can do it, my nickname should autocomplete
[01:47] <mesaboogie1> sorry
[01:47] <JBadger> anyone know how to start init from single user mode when bash is running instead of init?
[01:47] <bimberi> jcooper: like a kid in a toy shop :P
[01:47] <desousa2> moonlite,  skiping frame
[01:47] <tyler> anto9us, thanks
[01:48] <colm> JBadger, good stuff - now check your grub is pointing to the right place
[01:48] <southern> hi all
[01:48] <southern> :] 
[01:48] <desousa2> Pos: 937.8s  26070f (35%) 740fps Trem:   1min  36mb  A-V:0.065 [346:283] 
[01:49] <desousa2> Too many video packets in the buffer: (3657 in 8389158 bytes).
[01:49] <desousa2> Maybe you are playing a non-interleaved stream/file or the codec failed?
[01:49] <desousa2> For AVI files, try to force non-interleaved mode with the -ni option.
[01:49] <desousa2> Warning! FPS changed 25.000 -> 0.000  (25.000000) [15] 
[01:49] <southern> where can I find iptables config file?
[01:49] <Davey> man, I can't believe I broke my delete key :/
[01:49] <Davey> anyone have the Logitech MX 3000 Keyboard/mouse?
[01:50] <moonlite> desousa2: hm ok. no idea really. (you should use a paste-bin instead of posting long messages to this channel)
[01:51] <flodine> is there anyone with 64 bit ubuntu running
[01:51] <clever> if i change the pc my ubuntu is running it will that mess it up or confuse it?
[01:51] <desousa2> ok sorry
[01:51] <bjornkri> heyhey
[01:51] <JBadger> colm: I found out why things not working
[01:51] <moonlite> flodine: my project groups computer on my school is running x86-64 ubuntu (why?)
[01:51] <keithhhhhhhhh> Anyone running Ubuntu on a notebook with a Atheros Super G built in card?
[01:52] <southern> keithhhhhhhhh: No, but I planning ...
[01:52] <kjon> How does suspend-to-disk works? Does it create a file like hiberfil.sys on winxp?
[01:52] <clever> i know from exp that changing the motherboard in windoze causes perment damage and often needs a reinstall to fix
[01:52] <flodine> moonlite just wanted to know the command to install nvidia drivers for 64 bit
[01:52] <southern> do you have probleme with atheros?
[01:52] <colm> JBadger, cool.  what was up?
[01:52] <bjornkri> Is anyone using Umicons or any other such custom icon thingies?
[01:52] <mjr> kjon, no, it suspends onto the swap partition
[01:52] <keithhhhhhhhh> Southern-Im trying find how to get the wifi going
[01:52] <flodine> moonlite doesnt seem to be the same as 32 bit command
[01:53] <southern> keithhhhhhhhh: there is atheros driver called madwifi
[01:53] <flodine> moonlite apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:53] <moonlite> flodine: i have no idea at all. besides you should just ask the question, not all amd64 users have nvidi cards
[01:53] <kjon> mjr, and is possible to suspend-to-disk without a swapspace?
[01:53] <bjornkri> It may be a silly question, but I'm not sure where would be the 'proper' place to store new icons, if indeed there is such a proper place :P
[01:53] <JBadger> initrd-tools I think has a typo this last release.   There is a new version up already just grabbed that and going to re-install the kernel to see if that works
[01:54] <EricNeon> hi
[01:54] <southern> keithhhhhhhhh: http://madwifi.org/
[01:54] <keithhhhhhhhh> cool thanks
[01:55] <JBadger> the initrd.img is missing all the modules or most of them and /etc on that image does not contain fstab.   /sbin/init is missing from the initrd.img
[01:55] <ufo> bjornkri: /usr/share/pixmaps
[01:55] <moonlite> desousa2: test "mencoder vcd://1 -o test.avi -oac copy -ovc copy" instead.
[01:55] <JBadger> colm: google -- found this though a post btw
[01:55] <bjornkri> thanks ufo
[01:55] <sambagirl> hey seveas is there anyway i can mount a external parallel cd burner (backpack) for burning a iso that is stored on a mounted xp drive while i am using the live cd system?
[01:56] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im running a dual boot xp/ubuntu system.... should the windows partition be visiable by default?  Im in windows now
[01:57] <sambagirl> is there anyway i can mount a external parallel cd burner (backpack) for burning a iso that is stored on a mounted xp drive while i am using the live cd system?
[01:57] <alex_> i have an exe file
[01:57] <alex_> how do i run it?
[01:57] <ReymiX> anybody can help me ? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:57] <roostishaw> alex_, use wine
[01:57] <roostishaw> www.winehq.com
[01:57] <Fujitsu> !tell Hollowman8904 about wine
[01:57] <Hollowman8904> its a linux file though
[01:57] <Fujitsu> I doubt it.
[01:58] <Hollowman8904> i dont
[01:58] <Hollowman8904> http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html
[01:58] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[01:58] <Fujitsu> Folding@Home...
[01:58] <clever> i think they have both a win and linux binary
[01:58] <Hollowman8904> i've run it before on linux, but its been a while, and it kind of leaked out of my memory
[01:58] <moonlite> ReymiX: you need to install development packages to be able to compile stuff
[01:59] <Hollowman8904> yea.. the linux version is an exe still
[01:59] <moonlite> ReymiX: x-dev in this case i belive
[01:59] <wastrel> jsestri2:  eh i have no idea, can't find anything... sry :/
[01:59] <bjornkri> how can I run fstab w/o rebooting?
[01:59] <jsestri2> wastrel: thanks for the effort anyways
[01:59] <wastrel> jsestri2:  look for errors in dmesg from your sound system starting up
[01:59] <clever> mount -a
[01:59] <clever> maybe
[01:59] <mshade> bjornkri, mount -a
[01:59] <kjon> how do I set a ad hoc network with breezy?
[01:59] <roostishaw> what is fstab?
[01:59] <Fujitsu> Hollowman8904, try running it in a terminal.
[01:59] <bjornkri> ah yes, thanks
[01:59] <desousa2> moonlite, didnt give any error
[01:59] <roostishaw> whats fstab anyone?
[01:59] <desousa2> but where did the file go?
[01:59] <moonlite> desousa2: nice. does it work too?
[01:59] <Hollowman8904> Fujitsu, how
[01:59] <amphi> kjon: I had to do it with iwconfig - the GUI thing doesn't seem to have provision for that
[01:59] <Fujitsu> kjon, Network Manager can do it, or it is fairly easy in a terminal.
[01:59] <bjornkri> !fstab
[01:59] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[02:00] <mshade> roostishaw, /etc/fstab is your 'filesystem table'.  it lays out what devices and partitions you have, and where to put them in your / filesystem so you can access them
[02:00] <anto9us> sambagirl, only way I can think of managing to do that would be to transfer file to XP machine and use remote desktop to control its CD writing software
[02:00] <moonlite> desousa2: well. it SHOULD be test.avi :)
[02:00] <Fujitsu> Hollowman8904, open up a terminal, go into the appropriate directory, and type ./filenamehere.exe
[02:00] <desousa2> moonlite, dont know where it go :P
[02:00] <kjon> amphi, fujitsu... how??? (I don't want to RTFD ... :P)
[02:00] <roostishaw> mshade, thx
[02:00] <sambagirl> problem is the xp drive wont boot
[02:00] <moonlite> desousa2: in the same dir you typed the commad
[02:00] <amphi> kjon: iwconfig <iface> mode ad-hoc essid <essid> [other options] 
[02:01] <moonlite> if not then something else went wrong and mencoder didn't encode the file
[02:01] <kjon> amphi, tnx!
[02:01] <jsestri2> wastrel: what should i be looking for in dmesg.... there are a lot of ALSA things in there, and a lot of atkbd.c things...
[02:01] <Fujitsu> RTFD, kjon?
[02:01] <anto9us> sambagirl, I got totally confused there, sorry, yes, you should be able to mount the partition and right click the iso and burn it
[02:01] <amphi> kjon: beyond that, in general, saying you're too lazy to RTFM is not going to encourage people to help you
[02:01] <Hollowman8904> Fujitsu, permission denied
[02:02] <kjon> amphi, ok, I got it :P
[02:02] <sambagirl> how do i mount this external cd burner?
[02:02] <Fujitsu> Hollowman8904, chmod +x filenamehere.exe
[02:02] <sambagirl> i mounted the hard drive
[02:02] <sambagirl> i have a cd already interanl but not burnable.
[02:02] <andrew_> hey all - is there any easy way to print out a list of links in a terminal from a webpage?
[02:02] <shikamaru85> anyone here using / know about configuring apache?
[02:02] <Fujitsu> Yes, shikamaru85.
[02:02] <Fujitsu> What do you want to know?
[02:03] <JBadger> bbl
[02:03] <desousa2> moonlite,  lol dont think so
[02:03] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, oh tks so much i've trying to make apache check for pages in a diferent dir than the default /var/www for sites
[02:03] <_jason> andrew_: sure, use grep to match for the anchor tags I guess
[02:03] <amphi> andrew_: w3m -dump <url> | grep -i href perhaps
[02:04] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, tried to configure httpd
[02:04] <wastrel> jsestri2:  look for snd_hda_intel and other sound modules - see if they're loading properly.
[02:04] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, but the file is completly blank beside a comment
[02:04] <wastrel> jsestri2:  any errors involving sound modules would help, maybe alsa stuff if it's errors
[02:04] <Fujitsu> OK, shikamaru85, you need to edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[02:04] <jsestri2> wastrel: pastebin of my dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9143
[02:04] <amphi> andrew_: dunno if links has a -dump option
[02:04] <moonlite> desousa2:  ok no idea. All commands (that i know of) that prints out files prints it to the current directory btw.
[02:04] <anto9us> sambagirl, can't find anything on parallel port connected drive support, does dmesg tell you anything when you plug it in?
[02:05] <jsestri2> wastrel: i dont see the word Error anywhere, but i dont know what most of it means
[02:05] <sambagirl>  dmesg?
[02:05] <``Respect> hello
[02:05] <sambagirl> hello
[02:05] <``Respect> umm
[02:05] <``Respect> i need a little help
[02:05] <``Respect> i do'nt know the command to get flex
[02:05] <Fujitsu> Hi ``Respect.
[02:05] <``Respect> apt-get flex?
[02:05] <mesaboogie1> hey ``Respect
[02:05] <``Respect> hello
[02:05] <sambagirl> hello
[02:06] <anto9us> sambagirl, just type dmesg in terminal
[02:06] <Fujitsu> sudo apt-get install flex.
[02:06] <``Respect> thank you
[02:06] <roostishaw> apt-get install flex
[02:06] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, do i need to change the DocumentRoot or can i just add another <Directory block?
[02:06] <desousa2> :( ok
[02:07] <desousa2> whanx
[02:07] <desousa2> thanx
[02:07] <wastrel> jsestri2:  yeah i dunno ... no ideas sry :]   gonna go make dinner
[02:07] <moonlite> np
[02:07] <Fujitsu> You can add an extra by adding an Alias and a <Directory> block.
[02:07] <jsestri2> wastrel: thanks, cya
[02:07] <Fujitsu> Somewhat like the /usr/share/doc block down a little.
[02:07] <hit> can i install dapper from hd?
[02:07] <sambagirl> http://pastebin.com/567815
[02:07] <cookedGryphon_> my ubuntu is majorly messed up and i need a lot of help! basically libstdc++ and libasound are unreadable, so i can run firefox (and chatzilla) xfce, and not a lot else, apt-get is broken for chrissake!
[02:08] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: and how did you get in such a state?
[02:08] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, tks!!
[02:08] <desousa2> moonlite,  thanx
[02:09] <cookedGryphon_> i have no idea, i was installing some different media players (xine, mplayer...) seeing which i liked best and which worked best for embedded firefox content, and when id done i uninstalled the ones i didn't like, but synaptic crashed half way thru uninstalling kaffiene
[02:09] <sambagirl> anto9us http://pastebin.com/567815
[02:09] <cookedGryphon_> then everythign stopped working
[02:09] <mesaboogie1> sambagirl:  that don't look too happy
[02:09] <anto9us> sambagirl,  you need to run fsck, you've got problems with your filesystem
[02:09] <sambagirl> i am not at all happy :(
[02:10] <pingpongboss> hey, does anyone know of a good clipboard monitor/utility program that works well in ubuntu? I've only found ones you have to compile from source, and they don't even work!
[02:10] <sambagirl> umm
[02:10] <cookedGryphon_> does anyone mind if i paste 4 lines of directory listing, it would probably help solving my problem
[02:10] <jsestri2> I need help with my audio: Breezy 5.10 seems to recognize my onboard Realtek ALC880, but something is broken between programs and the hardware, i'm pretty sure something with alsamixer is messed up, but i dont know whats wrong with it, any ideas?
[02:10] <hit> can i install dapper from hd?
[02:10] <MarcN> pingpongboss: I like tomboy for quick notes to store.
[02:10] <pingpongboss> oh!
[02:10] <pingpongboss> i'll try that one out thanks
[02:11] <mesaboogie1> is there more tho? i havent seen *cdrom*, anto9us is there a dmesg hook to exclude the hard drives?
[02:11] <andrew_> okay, when i have lines of output on a terminal, how do i get it to display only parts of the lines..i want to use the parts inside the " " only
[02:11] <pingpongboss> but is it the kind of program that keeps a tab of all your copy/pastes?
[02:11] <MarcN> pingpongboss: there is also stickynotes (from the panel) which is also nice to keep little notes.
[02:11] <pingpongboss> i've seen this kind of a program some where before... but i dont remmeber...
[02:11] <MarcN> pingpongboss: tomboy is in dapper, but may not be in early.
[02:12] <anto9us> mesaboogie1, yes, can pipe its output to grep
[02:12] <pingpongboss> do those remember the text u copied?
[02:12] <cookedGryphon_> this is the output from a ls -la in /usr/lib (with irrelevant entries removed)?---r-----     32    7733365    6357037    6881395 Mar  4  1970 libasound.so.2
[02:12] <cookedGryphon_> ?--xr--rwx  30049    7143534    2125397    7602273 Jan  1  1970 libasound.so.2.0.0
[02:12] <cookedGryphon_> ?---r-xr-x    114 1852768288 1702035567    7274595 Mar 18  1970 libfribidi.so.0.0.0
[02:12] <cookedGryphon_> ?--xrw--wx     32    7929957    6881377    6488096 Mar 25  1970 libstdc++.so.6.0.5
[02:12] <mesaboogie1> like: dmesg |grep *cd* ?
[02:12] <cookedGryphon_> tere's random numbers where it should say its owned by root
[02:12] <MarcN> pingpongboss: I select something, open tomboy, then middlemouse button to do a quick paste.  Some apps need to use the ^C (copy) and ^V (paste)
[02:12] <amphi> dmesg | grep -i cdrom perhaps
[02:13] <pingpongboss> oh! i think that's exactly what i'm looking for!
[02:13] <pingpongboss> thanks MarcN
[02:13] <cookedGryphon_> please help me! i need to do work on this tomorrow and i can't do a reinstall, i jsut can't, i've customised everything
[02:13] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: seems like you filesystem may be messed up.  did the os crash or just synaptic?
[02:13] <cookedGryphon_> jsut synaptic
[02:13] <cookedGryphon_> most files seem to be fine
[02:13] <mesaboogie1> (i'm figuring the "problems" would go on for miles)
[02:13] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: that is a bad sign, possible fs corruption
[02:13] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: I'd back up now ;)
[02:13] <cookedGryphon_> :'( i can't, i dont have anything to back up to
[02:14] <anto9us> mesaboogie1, or "grep -v hda" to do specifically what you asked
[02:14] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: sure you didn't do anything else strange.  I can't think why the meta data of those files are messed up.  check out the time too.  Do you always do a nice shutdown or just poweroff?
[02:14] <cookedGryphon_> and i have everythign set up just the way i like it
[02:14] <ReymiX> anybody can help me ? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:14] <cookedGryphon_> MarcN: i always poweroff properly
[02:14] <roostishaw> what can powering off with just the swich do?
[02:14] <IdleOne> any GUI telnet with ssh app?
[02:14] <cookedGryphon_> seems like more than a coincidence that libasound should get corrupted when i'm uninstalling a sound player..
[02:15] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: shutdown, right?  Seems your disk may be having problems.  Anything in /var/log/messages about your disk?
[02:15] <amphi> ReymiX: install xlibs-dev
[02:15] <cookedGryphon_> i'll check
[02:15] <mesaboogie1> anto9us:  can grep handle w*ldcards? (yeah, that's the one! >dmesg | grep -v hda )
[02:15] <IdleOne> !telnet
[02:15] <ubotu> hmm... telnet is bad, use ssh (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto)
[02:15] <IdleOne> !ssh
[02:15] <ubotu> I heard ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[02:15] <amphi> IdleOne: what would a GUI ssh client do for you?
[02:15] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_:  libstdc++ is a C++ library, nothing about sound.  a soon-to-be-bad disk may be why synapic crashed too you know.
[02:15] <IdleOne> it would make it easier for me
[02:16] <cookedGryphon_> MarcN, please dont say that, lol, this laptop is all i have for my work
[02:16] <anto9us> mesaboogie1, I think it handles globs but can be told to match regexp
[02:17] <cookedGryphon_> i tried reinstalling the libc6 and libasound packages by downloading them and dpkging them, dpkg still works
[02:17] <amphi> IdleOne: what could it do? it doesn't get much simpler than ssh user@host
[02:18] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: have you fsck'd the disk?  Anything disk error related in messages? Try enabling SMART (/etc/smartd.conf) and see if your disk hw is reporting errors.
[02:18] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, still doesn't work
[02:18] <eugman> HEy whenever I higlhight text in Stani'
[02:18] <IdleOne> amphi:  I saw that
[02:18] <eugman> whoops
[02:19] <whiter> sorry
[02:19] <whiter> didnt mean to do that
[02:19] <eugman> Hey, whenever I highlight text in Stani's Python editor and accidentally click my mouse changes and I can't clikc anything. this is REALLY annoying.
[02:19] <whiter> didnt know /ame on xchat did all networks
[02:19] <mesaboogie1> (in that case i'd probably be looking at >dmesg | grep -i scsi >dmesg | grep -i ATAPI (are capitals needed?) and >dmesg |grep -i cdrom then)
[02:19] <Fujitsu> shikamaru85, what does it do when you try to browse to the page?
[02:19] <Fujitsu> 403 Forbidden?
[02:19] <ReymiX> amphi, hehe i have other error xD... checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[02:20] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, nop..just shows the dirs in the default localation
[02:20] <mesaboogie1> sambagirl: did you find anything "after" all ya <errors> in there?
[02:20] <amphi> ReymiX: install the qt dev package[s] ; when it asks for headers, or sometimes for libs that you _know_ are installed, install the relevant dev package
[02:20] <Fujitsu> shikamaru85, post your /etc/apache2/sites-available/default on pastebin, please.
[02:21] <instabin> gettig error when playing dvd
[02:21] <amphi> ReymiX: what are you building?
[02:21] <sambagirl> well i just ran dosfsck -a /dev/hda1/
[02:21] <_jason> instabin: what error?
[02:21] <instabin> error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block"
[02:21] <sambagirl> and it is running like crazy
[02:21] <_jason> instabin: you've installed libdvdcss?
[02:21] <instabin> yes
[02:21] <_jason> instabin: what player?
[02:21] <cookedGryphon_> MarcN, i can't run fsck cos the hdd is mounted and wont unmount, says its busy
[02:21] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: is it / ?
[02:22] <instabin> totem
[02:22] <_jason> instabin: have you tried another player?
[02:22] <instabin> ogle
[02:22] <cookedGryphon_> amphi i'm on a slax livecd atm
[02:22] <mesaboogie1> lol, so you fixing that first- that's cool.. um anto9us ,were those the ryt kind of probes she'd be wanting to do?
[02:22] <mesaboogie1> anto9us: ?
[02:22] <_jason> instabin: and other dvd's?
[02:22] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9145   tks for taking a look
[02:22] <sambagirl> it's cleaning things up maybe
[02:22] <sambagirl> brb
[02:22] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: you have anything using something on the partition as PWD ?
[02:23] <carol> hello
[02:23] <instabin> Tyred 4 different ones
[02:23] <Fujitsu> Hi carol.
[02:23] <amphi> er, CWD
[02:23] <cookedGryphon_> amphi, not that i know of, how would i find out..
[02:23] <cookedGryphon_> oh wait a minute...
[02:23] <carol> hi fujitsu
[02:23] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: lsof or fuser
[02:23] <Twisty> !wine
[02:23] <Twisty> sigh...
[02:23] <carol> HOW IS EVERYBODY?  :-)
[02:23] <Fujitsu> shikamaru85, try going into to http://127.0.0.1/Eclipse, and tell me what you see.
[02:24] <Dr_Fate> join #ubuntu-forums
[02:24] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: I would remount ro and try to back up before fscking
[02:24] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[02:24] <mesaboogie1> "does this grep thing support wildcards ? And the answer is better than yes. In fact saying that grep supports wildcards is a big understatement. grep uses regular expressions which go a few steps beyond wildcards.
[02:24] <io_> Hey, I used to run gentoo with ndiswrapper and had no connection problems for my wireless connection, now with ubuntu it isn't picking up many of the servers, and furthermore it is dropping connections a lot.  To the point that I can't even use it.  What's up?
[02:24] <anto9us> sambagirl, is it a dos partition on hda1?
[02:24] <Fujitsu> Only a few steps!?
[02:24] <amphi> mesaboogie1: man 7 regex
[02:24] <mesaboogie1> hm, v. interesting" (this is the googleLucky page for grep)
[02:25] <_jason> instabin: are you using totem-xine?
[02:25] <cookedGryphon_> amphi, nothing to back up to :'(
[02:25] <cookedGryphon_> this is baaaaad
[02:25] <instabin> I dont know
[02:25] <cookedGryphon_> turns out bash was using the hdd
[02:25] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: no cd burner?
[02:25] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, 404 not found
[02:25] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: you never answered me about a bad disk.
[02:25] <_jason> instabin: try installing totem-xine and see if it still happens
[02:25] <Fujitsu> Hmm.
[02:25] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: yeah, I suspected a shell ;)
[02:25] <cookedGryphon_> amphi, too much stuff to back up tho, all my music collection, cos i'm at uni, all my cds are at home
[02:25] <mesaboogie1> amphi:  yeah, i'm sure i would've found that one;)
[02:25] <Fujitsu> Have you restarted Apache, shikamaru85? Are you sure the file exists, with the right capitalisation>
[02:25] <Fujitsu> *?
[02:26] <instabin> doing that now
[02:26] <amphi> mesaboogie1: ?
[02:26] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: time to buy a cheap external USB disk.
[02:26] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, capitalisation?
[02:26] <cookedGryphon_> fsck says its clean
[02:26] <torpedo|dog> shikamaru85, when you're on Linux, capitals and lowercases count in filenames.
[02:26] <Fujitsu> Yes, capitalisation matters, shikamaru85.
[02:26] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: also the sysresccd.org iso is very handy for recovery tasks; it's small (no X) and has lots of useful tools
[02:27] <cookedGryphon_> i think i just need to replace the files that synaptic was working on at the time, get apt-get up and running, then i can reinstall what i need
[02:27] <torpedo|dog> so if you try to go to EEEE and the name is eeee, you will 404, shikamaru85.
[02:27] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: did you enable SMART?  that gets at the disk hw's disk failure info.
[02:27] <cookedGryphon_> i dunno how to, /etc/smart.conf doesn't exit
[02:27] <cookedGryphon_> exist
[02:27] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: can you delete files with these weird owner ids?
[02:27] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: and of course you can't apt-get it...
[02:27] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: smartctl --help
[02:28] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: in your timezone can you go buy an external disk?
[02:28] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, i copy pasted from the shell
[02:28] <dooglus> !flight4
[02:28] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[02:28] <sambagirl> no anto9us it is vfat i brb i am making a plan
[02:28] <instabin> _jason, that worked but now apparently i do not have libdvdcss
[02:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell instabin about dvd
[02:28] <instabin> How do i install this
[02:28] <anto9us> I love it when a plan comes together
[02:28] <tech_> thanks guys
[02:29] <tech_> chat u later
[02:29] <cookedGryphon_> MarcN, its 1:27 in the morning, probably not
[02:29] <halfpastzero> what might be wrong if sudo doesn't do anything?
[02:29] <torpedo|dog> instabin, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss
[02:29] <roostishaw> can someone plz tell me where the sources.list file is?
[02:29] <Fujitsu> So, shikamaru85... You have restarted Apache? You are sure that the path is correct?
[02:29] <cookedGryphon_> smartctl not found
[02:29] <btdown> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:29] <Fujitsu> /etc/apt, roostishaw.
[02:29] <roostishaw> thx
[02:29] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: well it is only 8;30pm my time ;-)
[02:30] <Twisty> for some reason wine is not being installed, Help?
[02:30] <amphi> Twisty: could you be more vague? ;)
[02:30] <Twisty> hehe
[02:30] <lullabud> rostishaw:  you can find stuff by `locate sources.list`.  if that doesn't work, run updatedb and try again.
[02:30] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, yes.../etc/init.d/apache2 stop /etc/init.d/apache2 start i'm 99.9% sure the path is right..:S
[02:30] <cookedGryphon_> oh yeah i got some weird errors trying to install libc6 and libasound manually using dpkg before, but can't remember what, does dpkg keep a log, if so where?
[02:31] <mesaboogie1> Twisty:  you're not 'staring' at it hard enough!
[02:31] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, only if there's something to do with the / or "
[02:31] <cookedGryphon_> ooh, i wonder......
[02:31] <cookedGryphon_> i'm thinking i could go make a backup from my mate's external hdd
[02:31] <Twisty> amphi, I set up everything up Synaptic, but it isn't showing up now
[02:31] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: if you do this, do you get errors?     find / > /dev/null
[02:31] <lullabud> Fujitsu: you can also use `apachectl`
[02:31] <lullabud> Fujitsu: or `apache2ctl`
[02:31] <Fujitsu> /etc/inti.d/apache2 restart as well.
[02:32] <Fujitsu> *init,.d
[02:32] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: what errors?
[02:32] <Fujitsu> *init.d
[02:32] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: it will list all the files on your filesystem.  if you get errors that is bad.  oh, run it with sudo
[02:32] <bjornkri> Do I need an ico2png utility or something to use .icos, or can I use them as is?
[02:32] <synth> ok, i've enabled multiverse universe and i have w32codecs and STILL cant play any WMVs. anyone have a suggestion?
[02:32] <cookedGryphon_> marcn, u coulda told me that b4, its already running
[02:32] <cookedGryphon_> lol i'll kill it and start again
[02:32] <MarcN> cookedGryphon_: ^C will kill it.
[02:32] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: ctr-c
[02:33] <Twisty> I did everything on the WINE page, I set up the repo's I set up the package but it doesn't install! :(
[02:33] <amphi> Twisty: I don't know about synaptic; what happens if you use apt-get ?
[02:33] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, still nothing
[02:33] <cookedGryphon_> the errors were somethign about mmapping
[02:33] <Twisty> sec
[02:33] <cookedGryphon_> mmap somethign
[02:33] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: from dpkg?
[02:33] <Fujitsu> shikamaru85, very odd.
[02:34] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, Eclipse has other dirs inside...that shouldn't be a prob right?
[02:34] <cookedGryphon_> amphi yeah
[02:34] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: did that look relevant?
[02:34] <Fujitsu> That shouldn't be a problem, no.
[02:34] <Fujitsu> What are the permissions on Eclipse?
[02:34] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: assuming you got a PM from dpkg
[02:35] <cookedGryphon_> yeah, and no it didn't look relevant
[02:35] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: so what was the error/
[02:35] <amphi> ?
[02:35] <cookedGryphon_> emmm, if i was booted from tha actual disk i coudl run it again and tell you...
[02:35] <cookedGryphon_> can't remember tho, where does dpkg store its logs
[02:36] <shikamaru85> drwxr-xr-x
[02:36] <Travis> hi guys, how fast of a server would I need to handle about 80 email users with webmail, pop3 + smtp and/or imap in a school lan?
[02:36] <cookedGryphon_> aha, i have dpkg logs
[02:36] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: you could look under /var/lib/dpkg
[02:36] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, drwxr-xr-x
[02:37] <cookedGryphon_> its /var/log/dpkg.log
[02:37] <EruditeHermit> hey, in which package is the font "fixed" ?
[02:37] <Fujitsu> That should be fine, shikamaru85...
[02:37] <anto9us> Travis, memory and disk space are probably much more of an issue than processor speed
[02:37] <amphi> cookedGryphon_: ah - I don't have that here
[02:37] <cookedGryphon_> k so now i can pinpoint when it went wrong
[02:38] <khan> what is the repository that has compiz for hoary? could someone pm it to me, thanks
[02:39] <MeTo> hmm how can i setup it  is it easy  as win 9x  or  miicro os
[02:39] <MeTo> or it very diff as   i hear?
[02:39] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.0.5-2ubuntu1.1 Server at localhost Port 80
[02:39] <shikamaru85> anything here that might influence?
[02:39] <cookedGryphon_> 2006-02-22 15:06:11 status config-files kaffeine-xine 0.7-0ubuntu4
[02:39] <cookedGryphon_> 2006-02-22 15:06:11 status not-installed kaffeine-xine <none>
[02:39] <Fujitsu> That looks fine. Very very strange.
[02:39] <cookedGryphon_> then after that there's my trying to install libc and failing miserably
[02:40] <anto9us> MeTo, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:40] <MeTo> hey
[02:40] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, oh well...i'll sleep on it..tks for all the help
[02:40] <cookedGryphon_> oh and the find / > /dev/null returned no errors
[02:40] <qkslvrwolf> quick question:
[02:40] <MeTo> how can i get the source  can any one gie me the link
[02:40] <MeTo> ??
[02:41] <instabin> _jason, installed libdvdcss but still dosent work
[02:41] <cookedGryphon_> i just need those essential packages back i think, tho maybe if i borrow my mate's external hdd tomorrow and make a backup just in case
[02:41] <dooglus> I'm trying to download dapper flight 4 using azureus.  I'm getting about 4 bytes per second.  What could be wrong?
[02:41] <Fujitsu> shikamaru85.
[02:41] <nanotube> Travis, well, for one, you would need at least an 80g hd, so you could provide ample disk space to your users. (120g even better). other than that, a decent cpu (prob even 1ghz would be sufficient, if you run it just for the email), and 1g ram should be plenty, too.
[02:41] <Fujitsu> I think I may have found something...
[02:41] <_jason> !doesn't work
[02:41] <ubotu> I guess doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[02:41] <qkslvrwolf> anyone know why a usb external floppy might show up 8 times?
[02:41] <qkslvrwolf> with the plug n play?
[02:41] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, still here :)
[02:41] <instabin> _jason, still says i need libdvdcss
[02:41] <Fujitsu> shikamaru85, in the section you added in the config...
[02:41] <Fujitsu> You have 'allow from all'.
[02:42] <_jason> instabin: how did you install it?
[02:42] <Fujitsu> It's unlikely, but it's possible that that's killing you.
[02:42] <Fujitsu> Try 'Allow from all' instead.
[02:42] <instabin> synaptic package manager
[02:42] <nanotube> Travis, back in the day, i ran a freebsd ftp server supporting 1mbps continuous upload on a p2 266 server with 128mb of ram. so that 1ghz cpu + 1g ram should be Very sufficient. :)
[02:42] <instabin> add repository then searched for it
[02:42] <Xappe> dooglus: dooglus do you have a firewall? if so, you have to open ports 6881-6889
[02:42] <_jason> instabin: did you close totem and restart it?
[02:42] <instabin> yes
[02:42] <instabin> didnt unmount dvd though
[02:43] <instabin> hold on
[02:43] <dooglus> Xappe: I'm forwarding port 2709, which is the port that azureus is using.  It's also open on the firewall.
[02:43] <instabin> its mounting again now
[02:43] <instabin> that woked
[02:43] <instabin> worked
[02:43] <_jason> instabin: cool
[02:43] <funkyHat> I've got Dapper Flight 4 running in VMware... XChat-GNOME is poop
[02:43] <instabin> lol just forgot to unmount dvd
[02:43] <instabin> sorry
[02:43] <Xappe> dooglus: i just downloaded flight4 with the bittorent client that comes with breezy at 1030 kB/s
[02:44] <_jason> instabin: no need to be
[02:44] <nanotube> dooglus, well, try downloading something else, and see if that changes things. maybe its a problem with that particular torrent. you wanna rule that out.
[02:44] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, nop:S
[02:44] <Fujitsu> Damn.
[02:44] <Fujitsu> I don't know, then.
[02:44] <nanotube> dooglus, or try using the default bt client, to see if its a problem with azureus
[02:44] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, tks anyway though
[02:44] <dooglus> nanotube: I've tried something else.  Same problem.
[02:44] <Travis> oh thanks for the suggestions guys, my school currently pays like $2000 a year for 80 email users through some crappy service so I am going to offer them a suggestion of setting up there own server since it would save tons of money of which they can put towards buying new computers
[02:44] <nanotube> dooglus, how about using another bt client, to see if its azureus's fault?
[02:45] <dooglus> nanotube: OK, but even if it works, I want to get azureus working.
[02:45] <nanotube> Travis, why not just tell them to go and get a bunc hof gmail accounts?
[02:45] <kevo_tool> Your school outsources your email?
[02:45] <edgarin> Hi
[02:45] <edgarin> Hi
[02:46] <dooglus> nanotube: how do you run the standard client?
[02:46] <nanotube> Travis, even if you do set up an internal email server on a cheapo machine, you can pretty much count on spending at least that on "support", unless you, or someone else, is willing to be the sysadmin for free.
[02:46] <Fujitsu> Hi edgarin.
[02:46] <nanotube> dooglus, its available under applications>internet>bittorrent
[02:47] <nanotube> dooglus, yea, the default client is pretty basic, i dont like it myself. azureus r00ls :)
[02:47] <edgarin> I have a problem I buy a camera Dlink DSB-C120 but..I can't this camera in my ubuntu linux
[02:47] <dooglus> nanotube: I looks in applications->internet.  it's not there :(
[02:47] <Travis> nanotube 1. gmail isn't that professional, this is a school 2. umm support shouldn't be that horrible they basically have todo it now all the company does it rents the server to them really
[02:47] <dooglus> nanotube: does it depend on ubuntu-desktop?
[02:48] <Travis> its pretty easy to setup a mail server
[02:48] <nanotube> dooglus, ehrm.. i dont know. it came with the default install when i installed breezy.
[02:48] <qkslvrwolf> anyone know why ubuntu is automatically loading 8 instances of my usb floppy?  any ideas?
[02:48] <kevo_tool> Travis: I'd say it's easier than that.
[02:48] <thechitowncubs> Hey, I have a really odd question.
[02:48] <khan> Hi, what is the repository that has xgl/compiz for breezy? could someone pm it to me or pose it here?, thanks
[02:48] <thechitowncubs> My windows broke and I need ubuntu to fix it.
[02:48] <nanotube> dooglus, the package is called "bittorrent", search for it in synaptic and see if its installed...
[02:48] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im new to ubuntu, how easy is it for me to upgrade my firefox, Im using 1.07 but I want 1.5
[02:49] <thechitowncubs> Is it possible by any means to rename files on an NTFS partition?
[02:49] <funkyhat> !tell keith about firefox1.5
[02:49] <lull> ntfstools
[02:49] <dooglus> nanotube: I have that package.  what's the binary called?
[02:49] <nanotube> let me see...
[02:49] <funkyhat> oops
[02:49] <funkyhat> !tell keithhhhhhhhh about firefox1.5
[02:50] <nanotube> dooglus, gnome-btdownload
[02:50] <khan> keithhhhhhhhh, use automatrix, it's an automated install program, i don't think that firefox 1.5 is out for breezy yet... or is gonna be....
[02:50] <keithhhhhhhhh> khan - why not
[02:50] <funkyhat> khan, I have directed keithhhhhhhhh to the ubuntu wiki page for installing firefox 1.5, that's the preferred installation method
[02:51] <Fujitsu> Automatix!?
[02:51] <khan> keithhhhhhhhh, you have to ask them....
[02:51] <Fujitsu> EasyUbuntu is somewhat safer than Automatix.
[02:51] <nanotube> keithhhhhhhhh, or use easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ it can automatically install ff15 too.
[02:51] <anto9us> keithhhhhhhhh, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:51] <nanotube> Fujitsu, heh you beat me to it
[02:51] <dooglus> nanotube: aah, that's moved into a package called 'gnome-btdownload' in dapper
[02:51] <thechitowncubs> anyone?
[02:51] <khan> funkyhat, although not the easiest for a beginner
[02:51] <lull> thechitowncubs: yes
[02:51] <nanotube> dooglus, so you are using dapper eh. ic :)
[02:51] <lull> thechitowncubs: ntfstools
[02:51] <funkyhat> Guys, please don't tell people to use these automated installers... they are mostly unhelpful
[02:51] <brad_teenbot> varsendagger,  hey man are you around?????
[02:51] <thechitowncubs> lull thank you!
[02:51] <funkyhat> khan, it's not hard to copy and paste a set of commands
[02:52] <funkyhat> even if it is a little daunting
[02:52] <torpedo|dog> I installed Automatix and actually was quite dissatisfied.
[02:52] <roostishaw> why?
[02:52] <nanotube> funkyhat, well, i have never used them myself - but they are probably more friendly for complete noobs...
[02:52] <torpedo|dog> It messed around in a bunch of config files without telling me
[02:52] <roostishaw> oh
[02:52] <torpedo|dog> tried to install Java
[02:52] <Travis> oh, does anyone know how to make my wine emulated apps not look so ugly? right now they are an ugly grey could I change that to like a lighter grey?
[02:52] <khan> from a clean install, i just use automatrix, gets everything done, no problem... that is why i suggetsed it, i of course normally use the wiki/forums
[02:52] <Fujitsu> !automatix
[02:52] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:52] <Fujitsu> !easyubuntu
[02:52] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[02:52] <_jason> why does everyone call the thing automatRix...?
[02:52] <funkyhat> nanotube, probably more friendly yeah, but less likely to work as a general rule, and don't teach anybody anything
[02:53] <khan> !xgl
[02:53] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:53] <synth> where's the divx codec package on PLF? I cant find it, but i see something for avifile- i just want to watch these freakin divx recordings :)
[02:53] <keithhhhhhhhh> sorry got a phone call
[02:53] <keithhhhhhhhh> Ill read the wiki
[02:53] <funkyhat> I know not everybody needs to learn ;), but it's never a bad thing to pick up a little info on how the system operates
[02:53] <amphi> synth: mplayer + libffmpeg should do
[02:53] <torpedo|dog> The only reason I used Automatix was to install Skype
[02:53] <roostishaw> oops, so what can i do to reverse the changes made by automatrix??????
[02:53] <torpedo|dog> which had a funky depencency
[02:53] <torpedo|dog> that didn't exist...
[02:53] <nanotube> funkyhat, well yea, in the long term, if you cant use the cli, ubuntu really is not for you.
[02:54] <keithhhhhhhhh> khan - Im losing interest in ubuntu such a hassle installing software, I guess that is the reason linux cant seem to catch on
[02:54] <dooglus> nanotube: it's working ok with the basic client.
[02:54] <funkyhat> torpedo|dog, hehe, when that issue first came up, I just edited the package. Exact same thing happened with Opera about the same time actually...
[02:54] <nanotube> synth, get the w32codecs package, it will install all the codecs
[02:54] <roostishaw> can you reverse the changes made by automatrix?
[02:54] <roostishaw> anyone?
[02:54] <Fujitsu> Xgl is also active in #ubuntu-xgl...
[02:54] <torpedo|dog> funkyhat, how do you do that?
[02:54] <pingpongboss> i heard you can't
[02:54] <Fujitsu> roostishaw, that is the problem.
[02:54] <nanotube> dooglus, hmm... well, then i guess we have narrowed the problem down to azureus. :)
[02:54] <torpedo|dog> I know it's some kind of openable archive
[02:54] <lull> thechitowncubs: try `sudo mount -t ntfs ...`
[02:54] <torpedo|dog> but what kind?
[02:54] <_jason> roostishaw: you probably need to read the source and see what it did
[02:54] <synth> nanotube, i already have.. it doesnt seem to do these divx encoded files i have however
[02:55] <khan> keithhhhhhhhh, you have to get used to the CLI, it's quite fun after a while, and a lot faster
[02:55] <nanotube> dooglus, few things to check first: do you have newest version of sun java, do you have newest ver of azureus, newest ver of swt toolkit?
[02:55] <roostishaw> _jason, you mean my sources.list?
[02:55] <Fujitsu> keithhhhhhhh, most of the software installation is much easier than Windows.
[02:55] <nanotube> dooglus, if you do, then i am out of ideas... :|
[02:55] <_jason> roostishaw: no, the source for automatix.  It's just a bash script iirc
[02:55] <funkyhat> torpedo|dog, well the proper way to do it would have been to edit it using a dpkg tool of some sort buttt.... I used Gnome archive manager to extract the dependencies file, change the name of the package to the correct one, and put it back
[02:55] <Fujitsu> Firefox 1.5 is not a package for Breezy, so it is more difficult.
[02:55] <khan> Fujitsu, if your not afraid of the command line... lol...
[02:55] <torpedo|dog> funkyhat, what's the archive format?
[02:56] <torpedo|dog> tgz? tbz2?
[02:56] <Fujitsu> khan, what about Synaptic?
[02:56] <roostishaw> quit
[02:56] <thechitowncubs> lull, Windows did not shut down properly.  Try to mount volume in windows, shut down and try again.
[02:56] <thechitowncubs> Mount failed.
[02:56] <khan> keithhhhhhhhh, imagine how life was before apt-get & synapic (and others)
[02:56] <Kr4t05> !breezy
[02:56] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:56] <thechitowncubs> do you have any clue how to get around that?
[02:56] <funkyhat> torpedo|dog, I'm not exactly sure, I think it's the same as tar.gz though, Archive Manager just opened it without any fuss
[02:56] <dooglus> nanotube: I don't use sun java, I use the GNU java.
[02:56] <keithhhhhhhhh> what does Sudo stand for?
[02:56] <dooglus> nanotube: and it's always worked fine.
[02:56] <funkyhat> keithhhhhhhhh, superuser do
[02:57] <keithhhhhhhhh> ah hehehe I was right thanks
[02:57] <torpedo|dog> funkyhat, I guess I can just keep open to experimentation, eh? Test each kind in turn :)
[02:57] <dooglus> nanotube: except yesterday dapper deleted itself when I booted it, and since I've reinstalled azureus has been slow
[02:57] <khanman02> Fujitsu, i have to agree while synaptic is great, it's not perfect, or complete
[02:57] <funkyhat> torpedo|dog, hehehe, maybe man dpkg will tell you
[02:57] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: substitute user do
[02:57] <khanman02> Fujitsu, ubuntu needs a graphical deb installer (gdebi, they are working on it)
[02:57] <Fujitsu> What's wrong with Synaptic?
[02:57] <dustobub> i am having trouble installing the newest ati drivers, i've added the http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas driver to my repos, and when I try to install "ubunutu-fglrx-686", it says it depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 and wont install as I have 2.6.12-9, can anyone help?
[02:57] <funkyhat> dooglus, not superuser do?
[02:58] <dooglus> funkyhat: it depends who you ask I guess
[02:58] <khanman02> not so much synaptic but just ubuntu repos
[02:58] <dooglus> funkyhat: "su" stands for "substitute user"
[02:58] <Fujitsu> What about them!?
[02:58] <khanman02> i love apt-get myself....
[02:58] <lampshade> what do you do as the first step after you add a printer?  I connected the seial cable to the machine, now what?  (from console)?
[02:58] <Fujitsu> What's wrong with the repos!?
[02:58] <funkyhat> dooglus, ok then :), I'm happy with either
[02:58] <dooglus> funkyhat: and "sudo" can be used to run commands as any user, not just root
[02:58] <khanman02> they don't have everything i need, not their fault i know
[02:58] <synth> ok, and where can an ubuntu user get a package to record DVDs? cdrecord doesn't like my DVDs
[02:58] <khanman02> and if you wanna install stuff like firefox 1.5, you have to go to cli
[02:59] <Fujitsu> Oh, well, yes.
[02:59] <Fujitsu> That can be a problem.
[02:59] <khanman02> which for new users is a drawback...
[02:59] <funkyhat> dooglus, ahh, like su, it just uses root as default
[02:59] <khanman02> to me, i love the command line
[02:59] <Fujitsu> Or just wait for Dapper.
[02:59] <funkyhat> It's not like there's any problem with 1.0.7 (saying that I've installed 1.5 ;))
[03:00] <we2by_> why didn't ubuntu detect my p4 ht correctly and use smp kernel?
[03:00] <we2by_> I only see cpu0 in cpuinfo
[03:00] <we2by_> and no cpu1
[03:00] <pianoboy3333> I'm wondering if I should upgrade to dapper.... It's really tempting....
[03:00] <funkyhat> we2by_, ht = SMP no?
[03:00] <khanman02> keithhhhhhhhh, the stuff that works in linux works way better you will notice than any other os mostly, also the stuff that doesn't is just lack of resources or due to closed software
[03:00] <dustobub> can anyone help with installing the latest ati fglrx drivers?
[03:00] <funkyhat> Well, after a fashion ;)
[03:00] <Fujitsu> Dapper is pretty stable at the moment.
[03:00] <kevo_tool> pianoboy3333: The release is only a few months away.
[03:00] <we2by_> funkyhat, I dunno, mostly I used to see smp kernel when using ht
[03:00] <pianoboy3333> kevo_tool: yea....
[03:00] <khanman02> !xgl
[03:00] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:01] <funkyhat> we2by_, ah, sorry, I misread your question
[03:01] <we2by_> funkyhat, but ubuntu should shows up 2 cpu's
[03:01] <pianoboy3333> kevo_tool: what is it?
[03:01] <funkyhat> we2by_, I'm not sure if it should for HT... because it's not as clear cut as dual core...
[03:01] <lampshade> somone must have installed a printer before, just what's step number one?  Is there like an lspci command to see it or something?
[03:01] <Fujitsu> funkyhat, you need the SMP kernel for HT.
[03:01] <kevo_tool> pianoboy3333: What is what?
[03:01] <pianoboy3333> How do you change the info for the weather app for gnome-panel?
[03:01] <anto9us> night everyone
[03:01] <pianoboy3333> kevo_tool: xgl
[03:02] <we2by_> funkyhat, but  I used to see 2 cpu's in other distro's and even on windows
[03:02] <Fujitsu> lampshade, System->Administration->Printers->Add Printer.
[03:02] <funkyhat> Fujitsu, but should ubuntu display 2 kernels in device manager?
[03:02] <Fujitsu> No.
[03:02] <funkyhat> er
[03:02] <Fujitsu> It should appear as one processor.
[03:02] <kevo_tool> !xgl
[03:02] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:02] <funkyhat> *processors
[03:02] <Fujitsu> I think.
[03:02] <Fujitsu> I am unsure.
[03:02] <FliesLikeALap> we2by_,  have you installed the SMP kernel?
[03:02] <funkyhat> we2by_, try installing the SMP kernel anyway
[03:02] <we2by_> FliesLikeABrick, no, I didn't
[03:02] <FliesLikeALap> I don't think the ubuntu installer ever detects and installs the SMP kernel at install-time
[03:02] <funkyhat> FliesLikeABrick, no, he asked why it didn't detect it and install it automatically
[03:02] <we2by_> Ubuntu didn't ask me if I wanted to do so
[03:02] <navarone> funkyhat,  have you tried cat /proc/cpuinfo   ?  and see what the output is?
[03:03] <FliesLikeALap> I've never had ubuntu or debian install SMP automatically on any of my dual processor computers
[03:03] <fojackedddolt> Newbie questions: How do I install packages I downloaded off the internet?
[03:03] <funkyhat> I think Ubuntu just always installs kernel 386
[03:03] <FliesLikeALap> fojackedddolt,  dpkg -i <filename>
[03:03] <funkyhat> navarone, we2by_ not me
[03:03] <fojackedddolt> is the file name the tarball?
[03:03] <dustobub> when I try to install the newest ati drivers "ubunutu-fglrx-686", it says it depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 and wont install as I have 2.6.12-9
[03:03] <FliesLikeALap> oh no fojackedddolt  i thought yo uwere talking about .deb files
[03:03] <bimberi> we2by_: the CD doesn't include the smp kernel - sudo aptitude install linux-686-smp
[03:03] <we2by_> I will install smp kernel tomorow and see how it works
[03:03] <lampshade> Fujitsu, what if I don't have any Gnome installed or anything like that
[03:03] <dooglus> !sunjava
[03:03] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:03] <funkyhat> fojackedddolt, the first step is to check that the package you installed isn't in the ubuntu repositories already
[03:04] <navarone> funkyhat, the install cd is 386 but you can update it with synaptic
[03:04] <FliesLikeALap> yeah we2by_  funkyhat  ubuntu always installs the 386 kernel at install-time unless you boot the install disk with the command to install 686
[03:04] <FliesLikeALap> yes we2by_  do that and it will work
[03:04] <Fujitsu> You want 686-smp of course.
[03:04] <fojackedddolt> funkyhat: its not,
[03:04] <funkyhat> fojackedddolt, have you added multiverse and universe repositories (sorry to keep asking questions, just checking :))
[03:04] <navarone> fojackedddolt, is it a deb package?
[03:05] <we2by_> after installing the smp kernel, will it use this smp kernel automatically?
[03:05] <fojackedddolt> funkyhat: I'm not sure... I'm sorry,
[03:05] <Formidable> hello
[03:05] <nemik> hello, is there any such add-on for gnome to add a mos-osx-like launch-bar? or anything where a program could be opened with ONE click as opposed to double clicking? i'm customizing a desktop for a very old lady
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> kevo_tool: so XGL is instead of GTK+ in ubuntu?
[03:05] <fojackedddolt> navarone: its a tarball
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> kevo_tool: i'm confused....
[03:05] <kevo_tool> pianoboy3333: No
[03:05] <funkyhat> fojackedddolt, ok then, follow the link that ubotu is about to send you
[03:05] <navarone> fojackedddolt, what is the prog?
[03:05] <gasp> !easyubuntu
[03:05] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[03:05] <funkyhat> !tell fojackedddolt about repositories
[03:05] <kevo_tool> pianoboy3333: Did you even read the link I gave you?
[03:05] <pianoboy3333> ...
[03:06] <pianoboy3333> kevo_tool: yes
[03:06] <nanotube> dooglus, hm, dapper deleted itself eh? that's... interesting. :)
[03:06] <Toma-> !ff15
[03:06] <ubotu> Toma-: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:06] <kevo_tool> pianoboy3333: You read http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ ?
[03:06] <Toma-> !ff1.5
[03:06] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:06] <dooglus> nanotube: it was partly my fault.  I had put a bad line into /etc/fstab.
[03:06] <thechitowncubs> Is it possible to use Windows Boot.ini options in the Grub bootloader?
[03:06] <pianoboy3333> kevo_tool: now i did :-)
[03:07] <nanotube> dooglus, what line was that? tell me so that i know never to put it in my own fstab. :) must be quite something, to make dapper screw up so bad
[03:07] <funkyhat> dooglus, must have been a hell of a line ;)
[03:07] <dooglus> nanotube: my line mounted the whole of / into /tmp/root, and the boot scripts empty /tmp
[03:07] <funkyhat> OUCH
[03:07] <pianoboy3333> kevo_tool: oh, so it's just an extension for fancy gfx
[03:07] <nanotube> dooglus, ooooh, wow...
[03:08] <nanotube> dooglus, i would never have thought of that myself. :)
[03:08] <keithhhhhhhhh> what is the 'ln' command?
[03:08] <nanotube> keithhhhhhhhh, thats to make a symbolic link to a file (like a shortcut)
[03:08] <asymmetry> dooglus, daaaaaaaamn
[03:08] <dooglus> nanotube: I didn't do it on putpose...
[03:08] <keithhhhhhhhh> ah cool thanks
[03:08] <Casey> I require help installing ubuntu. I have an ubuntu install CD that I have used to install Ubuntu before. The probem is that the computer I am trying to install it on is no CD bootable.
[03:08] <Formidable> w0000t!
[03:08] <nanotube> keithhhhhhhhh, if you ever want to know what a command does, use the unix manual. eg, issue "man ln" at command line to see a man page about ln
[03:08] <navarone> dooglus...why?
[03:08] <funkyhat> !nocdinstall
[03:08] <ubotu> funkyhat: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:08] <we2by_> now it shows up 2 cpu's
[03:08] <funkyhat> damn
[03:09] <dooglus> nanotube: I raised a bug report about it, to try to stop it happening to anyone else, but the developers don't seem to want to fix it.
[03:09] <dooglus> nanotube: see here: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/32388
[03:09] <keithhhhhhhhh> ah ha thanks
[03:09] <we2by_> but if run cat cpuinfo,  I don't see sse3
[03:09] <torpedo|dog> Juggling geese. Sounds like a fun hobby.
[03:09] <keithhhhhhhhh> I forgot it was man ln
[03:09] <dooglus> navarone: why what?
[03:09] <keithhhhhhhhh> I tried ln man
[03:09] <we2by_> is this normal? I mean a p4 3.2 should have sse3. right?
[03:09] <nanotube> keithhhhhhhhh, heh ic :)
[03:09] <navarone> dooglus why did you add that line to fstab?
[03:09] <mikeo1> i have my windows drive mounted as root... but cant seem to view the files as a user
[03:09] <keithhhhhhhhh> so many little things I know about linux but so many I dont remember well
[03:09] <mikeo1> can only view them as root
[03:09] <dooglus> navarone: I was trying to find a simple way to reproduce another dapper bug, where it fails to umount / before rebooting, causing a long fsck when you next boot.
[03:10] <nanotube> dooglus, yes, i understood you didnt do it on purpose. i was just saying i wouldnt have guessed what kind of fstab line can make ubuntu delete itself. :)
[03:10] <mikeo1> how do i change the viewing rights?
[03:10] <Casey> Is there anybody who can help me with my problem of installing Ubuntu on a system that is not CD bootable?
[03:10] <Formidable> Jagger Lies!
[03:10] <nanotube> dooglus, i am sorry it happened to you.
[03:10] <navarone> dooglus...you got your extra long fsck...<s>
[03:10] <dooglus> nanotube: I was lucky - /bin/ was one of the first directories it deleted - and that's where rm and rmdir live, so the damage was limited.
[03:11] <CosmoDad> mikeo1: you need to adjust permission settings in /etc/fstab
[03:11] <manthar> i anybody know psc2100 ( printer, scanner)
[03:11] <wedge> dooglus: uh.. you did rm -rf / ?
[03:11] <mikeo1> to what?
[03:11] <dooglus> nanotube: unfortunately it emptied /etc/ first - and there's a lot of stuff in there that's not easily recovered.
[03:11] <wedge> rm gets run in memory so even if you delete the binary it will finish.
[03:11] <dooglus> wedge: no, I edited /etc/fstab.  the boot scripts did the rest.
[03:11] <mikeo1> /dev/sdb1       /s              ntfs    rw,user,auto    0       0
[03:11] <mikeo1>  thats what it is right now
[03:11] <wedge> hmm
[03:11] <FliesLikeALap> !tell dustobub about ATI
[03:11] <tatters> if I got a patched executable can I drop it in to /usr/sbin to  replace old executable?
[03:11] <navarone> dooglus I salute your efforts in any case
[03:12] <CosmoDad> mikeo1: add "umask=0222" to the options
[03:12] <amphi> tatters: yeah, but a package upgrade would overwrite it
[03:12] <dooglus> navarone: thanks :)
[03:12] <manthar> i have a probleme with my psc all-in-one product i can scan
[03:12] <Fujitsu> Aha.
[03:12] <amphi> tatters: why not put it in /usr/local/sbin and use the full path to invoke it?
[03:12] <Fujitsu> I have a psc1210 that works...
[03:12] <manthar> i have always the message i/o error
[03:12] <mikeo1> still dont have permissions
[03:13] <tatters> I dunno howq to I only just figured doing this way
[03:13] <CosmoDad> tatters: if you do that the next major ubuntu upgrade will override it... you might want that, though
[03:13] <pianoboy3333> Is there going to be a Dapper Flight 5?
[03:13] <navarone> mikeo1, sure you'd want ntfs partition rw?
[03:13] <Fujitsu> Yes, pianoboy3333
[03:13] <mikeo1> no
[03:13] <manthar> ok i read the tutotial and i applied everiting in but the scan are unfonctional
[03:13] <mikeo1> is it faster?
[03:13] <pianoboy3333> hich is it?
[03:13] <dooglus> nanotube: I remember now - I used to use blackdown java, and that's not installed at the moment.  that's probably why azureus isn't working well.
[03:13] <pianoboy3333> *which
[03:13] <tatters> ic so thats the only problem doing my way?
[03:14] <nanotube> dooglus, heh i see... well that's one argument for frequently backing up /etc and your home dir :)
[03:14] <asymmetry> navarone, ntfs? rw? bad idea, that...
[03:14] <nanotube> dooglus, aha! that would make sense
[03:14] <navarone> asymetry yes I was pointing that out
[03:14] <mikeo1> should i change rw to r?
[03:14] <mikeo1> or ro
[03:14] <asymmetry> ro
[03:14] <nanotube> dooglus, because i know that when i tried to use azureus with gcj, it just spit out a bunch of errors and quit... so i was surprised you would be able to get it to run...
[03:14] <dooglus> nanotube: I'm *so* glad that I didn't lose /home.
[03:14] <asymmetry> mikeo1, writing to an ntfs partition from linux runs the risk of hosing the entire ntfs partition
[03:15] <dooglus> nanotube: it ran, and ran well for 5 minutes; then the downloads all stopped at once
[03:15] <nanotube> dooglus, speaking of backups... any good "automatic backup" packages you can cerommend?
[03:15] <mikeo1> even on the new drivers?
[03:15] <Davey> nanotube: cron + rsync
[03:15] <mustard5> mikeo1,  /dev/sdb1    /s ntfs  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0    0
[03:15] <mikeo1> in dapper
[03:15] <dooglus> nanotube: I use "tar" to copy everything to a shared windows drive - 'cos that's where the DVD writer is.
[03:15] <mikeo1> nevermind
[03:15] <nanotube> dooglus, hm, i guess they have a newer version of gcj on dapper than they do on breezy, that might have made the difference in getting it to run at all.
[03:15] <mikeo1> added the umask to the wrong line
[03:15] <mikeo1> works now
[03:15] <mikeo1> in ro
[03:16] <Davey> anybody can help me re-registed my damn delete key with Linux? it currently does... god knows what :/
[03:16] <dooglus> nanotube: I guess "rsync" is the answer if you have 2 machines.  it will synchronise the two machines, just copying the differences each time you run it
[03:16] <tatters> so instead I put in /local/sbin and create a sysmlink in usr/sbin pointing to local/sbin?
[03:16] <Fujitsu> No.
[03:16] <B_166-ER-X> does anyone have any experience with gtkpod ? pleasee
[03:16] <Fujitsu> /usr/local/sbin
[03:16] <dooglus> nanotube: azureus recently updated itself too - so maybe that's the difference
[03:16] <nanotube> dooglus, well, i am thinking a nice tar in a cron job would work well enough for me. i only have one machine. :)
[03:16] <pussfeller> you might try captive ntfs which runs thru wine and a lufs module....
[03:16] <pussfeller> it worked for me
[03:17] <rewt_> Davey, Did you try to use system>pref>keyboard shortcuts?
[03:17] <Davey> my delete key is returning this, http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?format=plain&pid=6238
[03:17] <sinaduel> I need help editing angband, when I try to save the p_class.txt it doesn't work, says I do not have permission
[03:17] <Davey> rewt_: doesn't help for "normal" keys
[03:17] <dooglus> nanotube: where are you going to put the tar files though?  somewhere on the net, or what?
[03:17] <B_166-ER-X> !gtkpod
[03:17] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, B_166-ER-X
[03:17] <nanotube> dooglus, i was just wondering if there was anything more "no need to make your own tar files" solution out there.
[03:17] <tatters> but its a syslink still if I get the directories right
[03:17] <B_166-ER-X> arrr
[03:17] <nanotube> dooglus, well, that's a good question. how big would a tar of /etc normally be?
[03:18] <pussfeller> if you wanna use an ipod you prob want amarok
[03:18] <Davey> rewt_: oh, that did it. I accidentally registered it to "Sleep" :)
[03:18] <Fujitsu> nanotube, Dapper should have a built in, good, backup thing.
[03:18] <Fujitsu> Pretty small... /etc hasn't got much data...
[03:18] <rewt_> Davey, thanks for confirming it worked :)
[03:18] <B_166-ER-X> pussfeller , i tried... but amarok on gnome..there is a lot of issues
[03:18] <nanotube> Fujitsu, that's cool.
[03:18] <rewt_> Davey, any more problems?
[03:18] <Davey> rewt_: nope, that was it :D
[03:18] <Jolly> how do i get Totem Movie Player to stop being my default player on ubuntu and replace my default player as VLC?
[03:18] <pussfeller> B_166-ER-X: there should be no issues....
[03:19] <rewt_> Davey, awesome, glad I could help.
[03:19] <keithhhhhhhhh> when doing a ls command how can I search subdirectories
[03:19] <dooglus> nanotube: I only (re)installed dapper yesterday, but /etc tars up to 1.2Mb
[03:19] <B_166-ER-X> well. there is.
[03:19] <rsync> n00b question, i am trying to install apt-get install mplayer-386
[03:19] <Davey> rewt_: even if it was just my own idiocy :)
[03:19] <rsync> but it says it does not work
[03:19] <rewt_> rsync, use synaptics.
[03:19] <keithhhhhhhhh> ls ____* -a
[03:19] <Fujitsu> No!
[03:19] <Fujitsu> Synaptic.
[03:19] <rewt_> Davey, heh, we can't all be perfect.
[03:19] <Fujitsu> Not synaptics.
[03:19] <B_166-ER-X> and banshee doesnt work either
[03:19] <rsync> Synaptic?
[03:19] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: ls -R is recursive
[03:19] <Unity> anyone knows a good html converter that can format an html for printing? html2ps doesn't work that well; it only outputs the first page
[03:19] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[03:19] <keithhhhhhhhh> ah thanks
[03:19] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: but for searching, try "find"
[03:19] <Fujitsu> System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager.
[03:19] <rsync> ah i see
[03:19] <rsync> thanks
[03:19] <nanotube> dooglus, well, that seems like it would upload reasonably fast
[03:20] <rewt_> rsync, sys>admin>synaptic package manager
[03:20] <Jolly> how do i get Totem Movie Player to stop being my default player on ubuntu and replace my default player as VLC?
[03:20] <nanotube> dooglus, i could scp it to my unix acct at the uni
[03:20] <Jolly> any takers on that question????
[03:20] <dooglus> nanotube: yes, and worth doing :)
[03:20] <keithhhhhhhhh> find hmm
[03:20] <rewt_> Jolly, right click the file type.
[03:20] <dooglus> nanotube: /home is probably a different matter though
[03:20] <bushito> !mp3
[03:20] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:20] <rewt_> Chnage the open with
[03:20] <rsync> rewt_, Fujitsu  thanks
[03:20] <pussfeller> B_166-ER-X: i just bite the bullet and compile amarok from svn, its worth the hassle
[03:20] <rewt_> rsync, no problem.
[03:20] <Jolly> yeah i know but eveytime i click a video player it always defaults to Totem
[03:20] <Trilom> Hey everyone. Fujitsu, got the internet working. :)
[03:20] <Jolly> i would like to know if there is a way to have it default to VLC
[03:20] <nanotube> dooglus, yes... unfortunately. :)
[03:20] <rewt_> Jolly, right click the file, hit preferences. CLick on the "Open With" tab.
[03:21] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: just try "find" on its own.  it takes a million options, but works without any
[03:21] <fojackedddolt> Question: how do i set up unbutu so i have all user "permissions"?
[03:21] <rewt_> fojackedddolt, what do you mean?
[03:21] <keithhhhhhhhh> hmph Im trying to find my mozilla directory
[03:21] <rewt_> How do you kee constant root?
[03:21] <Fujitsu> fojacceddolt, what rewt_ said.
[03:21] <rewt_> And not sudo?
[03:21] <rsync> rewt_: but it still does not show standard mplayer as a package
[03:21] <rsync> just mozilla-mplayer
[03:21] <MAB> hello ubunites
[03:21] <dooglus> rewt_: "sudo -i"?
[03:21] <LiteHedded> !sudo
[03:21] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:21] <navarone> keithhhhhhhhh, it's a hidden folder in home.. press ctrl-h I think to show hidden files in nautilus
[03:21] <rohan> weird question but... does anyone know if there's a way I can check how much bandwidth I'm using when I'm running multiple bittorrent clients?
[03:22] <nanotube> dooglus, well, ttyl, gtg. nice talkin to ya :)
[03:22] <Jolly> how do i un install Totem??
[03:22] <rewt_> dooglus, Are you wanting to be root and not use sudo anymore?
[03:22] <dooglus> nanotube: you too.  bye.
[03:22] <fojackedddolt> rewt: when i try and delete folders, or move folders, or do most anything, it says i do not have appropiate permissions
[03:22] <keithhhhhhhhh> ah hidden files damn sneaky
[03:22] <rsync> rewt_, Fujitsu: i tried updating repositories list file no no avail
[03:22] <Jolly> I know how to intall programs with ubuntu but i do now know how to uninstall i am a n00b
[03:22] <dooglus> rewt_: you asked "How do you kee constant root?".  I was responding.
[03:22] <rsync> uncommenting some repositories
[03:22] <navarone> keithhhhhhhhh, any file/folder beiginning with "." is hidden as far as I can tell
[03:22] <rewt_> Jolly, sudo apt-get remove 'prog'
[03:22] <Jolly> cool thanks
[03:23] <rewt_> No problem.
[03:23] <rewt_> I know how todo constant root.
[03:23] <rewt_> :-P
[03:23] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, what areas of the computer are you moving around files and stuff?
[03:23] <harre> What could be the problem if I get ext2-fs bad entry in directory when booting the install cd... It works perfectly on another computer... I have also tried with the same cdrom with the same result
[03:23] <Fujitsu> rsync: Breezy?
[03:23] <B_166-ER-X> pussfeller,  hm, trying now...amarok wont load my ipod .says its not mounted (although i can acess it with nautilus)
[03:23] <rewt_> I'll be back in an hour.
[03:23] <MAB> Jolly there are several ways to find totem via the synaptic or the Automatix i think but people frown upon Automatix
[03:23] <funkyhat> Jolly, or choose to uninstall the program from synaptic :)
[03:23] <rsync> Fujitsu: yes
[03:23] <Fujitsu> Make sure multiverse is enabled, rsync. It is certainly there.
[03:23] <fojackedddolt> mustard5: things in /dev /media, and the "desktop"
[03:23] <witless> how can i just run an application that's not in the menu without opening a terminal?
[03:23] <fojackedddolt> I can do all i need in the terminal, but not with the gui
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Alt+F2, witless.
[03:24] <navarone> witless press alt-f2
[03:24] <Jolly> i was gonna use the terminal
[03:24] <witless> Fujitsu: navarone: thanks!
[03:24] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, you should have full permisssion on desktop...for /media you are probably not mounting devices with the correct permissions
[03:24] <Jolly> how do i do it with this synaptic
[03:24] <rsync> Fujitsu: i updated sources.list
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Do what, Jolly?
[03:24] <rsync> Fujitsu: and ran apt-get update
[03:24] <MAB> you open the synaptic manager in system/admin/synaptic
[03:24] <Jolly> I want to uninstall Totem Movie Player
[03:24] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, what devices are you mounting in your /media folder?
[03:25] <MAB> Oh un-install?
[03:25] <Fujitsu> dAhh.
[03:25] <fojackedddolt> mustard5: my second hard drive
[03:25] <Jolly> rewt_ told me how to do it using the terminal
[03:25] <Fujitsu> Inadvisable to uninstall it...
[03:25] <pussfeller> B_166-ER-X: if you have probs with it, you can bug #amarok, i do all the time :)
[03:25] <Jolly> rewt_ said to do sudo apt-get remove 'prog'
[03:25] <pussfeller> they are pretty helpful
[03:25] <hyphenated> is there any reason why I'd lose all of my cached package lists after a reboot?
[03:25] <rsync> Fujitsu: thanks
[03:25] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, you used the pastebin before?
[03:25] <Jolly> the only problem is i dont know what to exactly replace 'prog' with
[03:25] <BlueEagle> I am having some problems with raid. the /proc/mdstat and fdisk -l can be seen on http://pastebin.com/566943. fdisk -l refers to a /dev/md0p1 but no such node exists. What am I missing here?
[03:25] <navarone> Jolly open synaptic click status at bottom left and then click installed. Find totem and rightclick and select uninstall or complete removal
[03:25] <hyphenated> (ie the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ )
[03:26] <Fujitsu> rsync: ?
[03:26] <harre> What could be the problem if I get ext2-fs bad entry in directory when booting the install cd... It works perfectly on another computer... I have also tried with the same cdrom with the same result
[03:26] <fojackedddolt> mustard5: no, i havnt
[03:26] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:26] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, open that up in a browser..
[03:26] <MAB> yes you can remove the totem via the synaptic manager
[03:26] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, in terminal do     cat /etc/fstab
[03:26] <BlueEagle> harre: You could have a dirty lense on your cd rom drive.
[03:27] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, copy and paste the output into that webpage...hit send....then show me the new URL it creates
[03:27] <Jolly> i dont even know if i have synaptic
[03:27] <fojackedddolt> ohkay, just a moment
[03:27] <navarone> Okay i am gone for the night methinks...take care
[03:27] <Xenguy> Jolly: installed by default
[03:27] <harre> BlueEagle: but I'm using the same cd-rom on another computer and it works there
[03:27] <MAB> Jolly got to the system/Admin/Synaptic. Should be there
[03:27] <steven1> any one know if there is a drop and drag package installer
[03:28] <sonicGB> Can anyone point me to a 'brochure', pdf or otherwise, that is suitable to introduce windows punters to ubuntu? Everything I've found so far is a bit technical - pretty much pre-requires you to know what linux is before you'll understand what the brochure is on about. Any ideas?
[03:28] <rsync> Fujitsu: so i want to enable multiverse of breezy-backports to install mplayer
[03:28] <rsync> ?
[03:28] <BlueEagle> harre: Hence the cd-rom DRIVE might be the problem.
[03:28] <Jolly> got it MAB
[03:28] <Jolly> thanks
[03:28] <Fujitsu> No.
[03:28] <BlueEagle> harre: That's where the dirty lense will be.
[03:28] <Fujitsu> multiverse of breezy.
[03:28] <MAB> yes you should find the totem in the all
[03:29] <MAB> then just right click and unstall
[03:29] <fojackedddolt> mustard5: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9149
[03:29] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, thanks..
[03:29] <dooglus> sonicGB: the closest I've seen to that is the CD packaging.  have you seen it?
[03:29] <BlueEagle> any takers on my raid problem?
[03:29] <jjjjjjj> do i have to d/l firefox or can i sudo apt-get?
[03:29] <dooglus> jjjjjjj: firefox comes as standard in ubuntu
[03:30] <rsync> Fujitsu: you mean Community supported binary universe?
[03:30] <jjjjjjj> i want 1.5
[03:30] <BlueEagle> jjjj: YOu can install it via synaptic, aptitude and/or apt-get
[03:30] <rsync> of BreezyBadger 5.10?
[03:30] <Fujitsu> No, rsync.
[03:30] <harre> BlueEagle: you don't understand me, I have two computers A & B on computer A it works perfectly but not on comp B, it also gives the same problem if I take the CD-unit from A to B
[03:30] <Fujitsu> Oh.
[03:30] <Fujitsu> Of course.
[03:30] <sonicGB> dooglus, yes, I have a heap of CDs, I'm looking for something to offer up along side of those.
[03:30] <Fujitsu> rsync.
[03:30] <philippe_> tem alguem q fla portugues aki?
[03:30] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, hmm you do everything in root?
[03:30] <jjjjjjj> right... thx blue
[03:30] <trashsquad> how do i install realplayer 10
[03:30] <trashsquad> its a rpm file???
[03:30] <Fujitsu> You will need to add a new entry, rsync.
[03:30] <rsync> Fujitsu: i don't have BB 5.10 multiverse
[03:30] <fojackedddolt> mysdtard5: yes
[03:30] <dooglus> sonicGB: I've only seen the breezy CDs, but the blurb on the back is quite convincing to the windows users I've shown it to
[03:30] <sonicGB> dooglus: the people I deal with here aren't that bright, they'll likely not understand on the strength of the CD packaging alone! :-)
[03:30] <BlueEagle> harre: Well then there might be another problem relating to the chipset. Which mainboard is on the computer where it does not work?
[03:30] <Fujitsu> You should be able to add a custom line, rsync.
[03:30] <Fujitsu> I can tell you what to put there.
[03:30] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, you should have access to everything with root.....its a bad practice you know :)
[03:31] <trashsquad> how do i install realplayer 10
[03:31] <BlueEagle> harre: or more spesifically which IDE chipset is on that mainboard?
[03:31] <rsync> Fujitsu: which is?
[03:31] <Fujitsu> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[03:31] <Razor-X> Is there anything special compiled into the Ubuntu kernel?
[03:31] <sonicGB> dooglus: <reading now> yeah, it's a good start, I agree...
[03:31] <Twisty> Hey does anyone know about or how to get Direct X going for cedega?
[03:31] <Jolly> okay there is totem, totem-gstreamer, and totem-xine...... do i mark all of those for removal???
[03:31] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, you don't have a swap partition btw ...and you are not mounting your other drive at startup currently
[03:31] <fojackedddolt> mustard5: ohkee.. I will poke around some more. I'm a total newbie, so, you know, haha
[03:31] <Razor-X> Fujitsu: I don't like your projects@
[03:31] <dooglus> sonicGB: chances are linux isn't ready for your "not bright" collegues
[03:31] <Razor-X> *!
[03:31] <Razor-X> *products
[03:31] <sonicGB> Razor-X: yes, it has an extra measure of friendliness and be-nice-to-you-neighbour-ness compiled in :-)
[03:32] <bushito> !ATI
[03:32] <Razor-X> sonicGB: Meh.
[03:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:32] <dooglus> sonicGB: they'll miss their world of warcraft or halo or whatever.
[03:32] <Fujitsu> Hahah
[03:32] <Twisty> !directx
[03:32] <ubotu> Twisty: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:32] <harre> BlueEagle: it's a i440bx on the nonworking computer
[03:32] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, can you pastebin the output of this command    sudo fdsik -l
[03:32] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, doh..type
[03:32] <trashsquad> how do i install realplayer 10
[03:32] <trashsquad> how do i install realplayer 10
[03:32] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, sudo fdisk -l
[03:32] <sonicGB> dooglus: lol... you're right, but they're still gonna knock on my door and ask me to explain!
[03:32] <Fujitsu> Is RealPlayer in multiverse, everybody?
[03:32] <Razor-X> ["Leaving"] 
[03:32] <Razor-X> 21:31 < rsync> Fujitsu: which is?
[03:32] <Razor-X> 21:31 < Fujitsu> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[03:32] <Razor-X> 21:31 < Razor-X> Is there anything special compiled into the Ubuntu kernel?
[03:32] <Razor-X> 21:31 < sonicGB> dooglus: <reading now> yeah, it's a good start, I agree...
[03:32] <Razor-X> 21:31 < Twisty> Hey does anyone know about or how to get Direct X going for cedega?
[03:32] <Fujitsu> !realplayer
[03:32] <ubotu> [realplayer]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:32] <Razor-X> 21:31 < mustard5> fojackedddolt, you don't have a swap partition btw ...and you are not mounting your other
[03:32] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, you probably don't need sudo since you are logged in as root I suppose :)
[03:32] <Razor-X> Sorry!
[03:32] <Razor-X> Gah!
[03:32] <dooglus> sonicGB: Windows users knock on your door asking you about ubuntu?
[03:32] <BlueEagle> harre: Well I have got no idea as to intel chipsets. Try googling that with linux and such and see if that might be the crulpit.
[03:32] <keithhhhhhhhh> what does this do?  "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5"
[03:33] <mustard5> Razor-X, hmmm. missed 'drive' on the end :)
[03:33] <Jolly> so do i remove totem, totem-gstreamer, and totem-xine in synaptic???
[03:33] <Toma-> nice flud
[03:33] <sonicGB> dooglus: On account of I have a bunch of ubuntu CDs stuck on the outside of the door with "please take one" written there, yes!
[03:33] <Razor-X> mustard5: :D.
[03:33] <Travis> what other IM clients are there for gnome besides aMSN and GAIM?
[03:33] <amphi> sonicGB: there's the 'intro to linux' book at tldp.org, dunno if that's any use to you
[03:33] <Twisty> !directx
[03:33] <ubotu> Twisty: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:33] <Twisty> Hey does anyone know about or how to get Direct X going for cedega?
[03:33] <harre> BlueEagle: ok, thanks for the help
[03:33] <sonicGB> I'll have a look amphi, ta..
[03:33] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: (sudo) runs a command as root (apt-get) which manages packages (install) and installs a package called (libstdc++5)
[03:34] <amphi> Razor-X: get a ThinkPad ;)
[03:34] <kevo_tool> Travis: You can use KDE programs in GNOME.
[03:34] <mustard5> fojackedddolt, including the 'http://' in the link you paste is helpful too :)
[03:34] <Razor-X> Twisty: I think Cedega supports DirectX natively, not 100% sure.
[03:34] <bur[n] er> Travis: gabber, gajim
[03:34] <dooglus> sonicGB: oh, I see.
[03:34] <Toma-> Twisty, directX is "emulated" in cedega. no need to "get it going"
[03:34] <Razor-X> amphi: Maybe. Since I have a Model M for a keyboard on my main machine.
[03:34] <Twisty> Well it does support it but it's only 8.0 not 9.0....
[03:34] <keithhhhhhhhh> dooglus ok I mostly understood but why is libstdc++5 on my computer but not installed
[03:34] <Razor-X> Twisty: Why not put some of that Cedega support you paid for to work? :D.
[03:34] <zerephath> I didn't find a ubuntu-ppc channel...what is the workaround for playing streamed video over the net when running PPC?
[03:35] <Twisty> :O
[03:35] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: it's not on your computer - the command will download it (or take it from the CD if it's on the CD) and install it
[03:35] <amphi> sonicGB: also http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-roadmap.html perhaps
[03:35] <Toma-> Twisty, cedega 5.0 has directx 9.0 suppoert
[03:35] <amphi> Razor-X: ;)
[03:35] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: apt-get is a downloader and installer all-in-one
[03:35] <Jolly> how do i totally own some one and achieve root to there box hahahaha
[03:35] <keithhhhhhhhh> dooglus - oh wow its fast for getting from cd or net
[03:35] <[CBLA] Statik> join #cbla
[03:35] <Toma-> Twisty, but you cant use cedega 5.0 without a vaild (paid for) key :)
[03:35] <kevo_tool> Jolly: Use a gun.
[03:35] <amphi> Razor-X: thinkpad keyboards are excellent IMHO, and the trackpoint is vastly superior to the touchpad, an has 3 buttons
[03:36] <Jolly> hahaha
[03:36] <Twisty> I do have a valid paid for key
[03:36] <mustard5> Jolly, quite easily if its not secured :)
[03:36] <wastrel> <3 thinkpad
[03:36] <Razor-X> amphi: Hmmm... I'll have to saveup for more after Fanimecon, then ;).
[03:36] <Toma-> Twisty, well get cedega 5.0 and get playing! :D
[03:36] <Razor-X> I got a vintage Model M built in '93.
[03:36] <Twisty> I just bought it I started up Counter-Strike Source and it says I only have 8.0
[03:36] <sonicGB> amphi: just had a look, those things are good, but too much for the audience I have in mind. I know openoffice has some good bling-bling type of brochureware, and I'm kinda wondering if anyone has done something like that for Ubuntu before I go and re-invent the wheel.
[03:36] <keithhhhhhhhh> dooglas - ah does it refer to the Repositories?
[03:36] <Fujitsu> Yes, keithhhhhhhh
[03:36] <bur[n] er> Twisty: check the cedega website about counter-strike?
[03:36] <Razor-X> Twisty: I do hear, though, that Cedega gives excellent support.
[03:36] <djmccormick_> why are my samba files coming up read-only?
[03:36] <djmccormick_> the files that're on another box
[03:36] <amphi> sonicGB: what is your audience?
[03:37] <keithhhhhhhhh> Fujitsu - wow very nice
[03:37] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: because the sharing box shared them as read only
[03:37] <djmccormick_> i can edit them with windows
[03:37] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: that's what's nice about apt-get - it can access thousands of packages, all neatly arranged on the ubuntu servers.  you don't have to do all the steps you need to do on windows: (track down a web page, then find the download link, then save it to disk, find it on disk, run it, click 'next' 15 times)
[03:37] <Toma-> Twisty, http://transgaming.org/forum/ go crazy.
[03:37] <djmccormick_> bur[n] er, is there a way to explicitly say they're not read only?
[03:37] <Fujitsu> keithhhhhhhh: That is why apt-get is really great.
[03:37] <IdleOne> djmccormick_:  its a ntfs partition right?
[03:37] <Jolly> okay so i tried to uninstall Totem in synaptic and it still shows up under my list of Applications?? why is this???
[03:37] <Fujitsu> A single command to get who knows how many.
[03:37] <djmccormick_> IdleOne, it's a samba share on a linux box
[03:37] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: apt-get uses the file /etc/apt/sources.list - that file tells it which repositories to use
[03:37] <sonicGB> amphi: academics and students in a university, pretty much an entirely windoze environment... some have been hearing about this new fangled "free software" and "linux" stuff, but they really don't know what they're getting themselves in for.
[03:37] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: on the computer that does the sharing, yes
[03:37] <keithhhhhhhhh> is apt-get only in ubuntu?
[03:38] <kevo_tool> keithhhhhhhhh: No
[03:38] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: apt-get is a debian thing
[03:38] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: linux == client and linux == server?
[03:38] <sonicGB> I'd be happy if I can get them booting of the live cd and realising that there is another way! :-)
[03:38] <Fujitsu> keithhhhhhhh, it's in Debian, and Debian derivitaves.
[03:38] <djmccormick_> yes, bur[n] er... though i have // Jan 29 2006 by Dustin McCormick < djmccormick@gmail.com >
[03:38] <djmccormick_> / Tested with gcc version 3.3.4 on GNU/Linux 2.4.29 i686
[03:38] <djmccormick_> /
[03:38] <djmccormick_> / gcc: 	http://gcc.gnu.org/
[03:38] <djmccormick_> / GNU: 	http://www.gnu.org/
[03:38] <djmccormick_> / Linux: 	http://www.kernel.org/
[03:38] <djmccormick_> shit, sorry
[03:38] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: ubuntu is a descendant of debian
[03:38] <keithhhhhhhhh> ah pretty cool
[03:38] <djmccormick_> read only = No
[03:38] <IdleOne> djmccormick_:  change the permissions on the host machine for the files
[03:38] <amphi> sonicGB: suse might be good for them - novell might have written some more appropriate intro docs too
[03:38] <er_CHEF> how to install link on ubuntu??
[03:38] <djmccormick_> IdleOne, they are 777
[03:38] <djmccormick_> and i have read only = No
[03:38] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: how about the file permissions for that user locally?
[03:39] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: ls -l filename
[03:39] <Jolly> nevermind i figured it out
[03:39] <sonicGB> amphi: ok, I'll go see what docs they have. I do have 100 ubuntu CDs here to find homes for though... I can give *some* to my students in class, but I don't have that many students :-)
[03:39] <Jolly> so what things do i need for security so i dont get pwned
[03:39] <djmccormick_> bur[n] er, it's showing only owner has write access
[03:39] <dooglus> keithhhhhhhhh: all linux distributions have something like apt-get I think.  but most use .rpm packages instead of .deb packages.  I don't really know what the difference is, if there is any difference.
[03:39] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: and you're logging in through samba as the owner?
[03:39] <er_CHEF> how to install link on ubuntu??????
[03:40] <AdmiralCrunch> dooglus: not all distros have stufff like apt-get. slackware for instance
[03:40] <sonicGB> thanks amphi, dooglus for your input, appreciated :-)
[03:40] <Jolly> my brother is a computer science major and soon as he gets home from RIT he is going to try to pwn my box
[03:40] <djmccormick_> yes, it even lets me drag files to the server. just keeps opening the files as read only
[03:40] <amphi> sonicGB: heh
[03:40] <B_166-ER-X> !repos
[03:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:40] <B_166-ER-X> !easysource
[03:40] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:40] <steven1> 0
[03:40] <dooglus> AdmiralCrunch: really?  slackware has no way of doing a "install gcc and everything it depends on, recursively" in one step?
[03:40] <ELpH95o> what'sup folks
[03:40] <sonicGB> Razor-X: It's to add emphasis !!!111oneone11eleven!!!
[03:41] <Toma-> ok ?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?.
[03:41] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: what app are you opening the files with?
[03:41] <djmccormick_> gedit
[03:41] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: opening via gnome-vfs?
[03:41] <Toma-> er_CHEF, what type of link?
[03:41] <djmccormick_> i was just double clicking c++ files through the file browser
[03:41] <AdmiralCrunch> dooglus: nope, there a few fan-built packages like slapt-get that kind of do something similar, but they are far from perfect
[03:41] <er_CHEF> for a webbroser
[03:41] <dooglus> djmccormick_: redundancies are ok, it's the repeated multiple duplicated redundancies which annoy me, and wind me up.
[03:41] <er_CHEF> in the terminal
[03:41] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: can you copy the file local, edit it, save it, and then drag it back to the remote?
[03:41] <Jolly> how can i keep my box from getting pwned
[03:42] <kevo_tool> Jolly: Lock your doors.
[03:42] <AdmiralCrunch> dooglus: a lot of people on slack do all their shit themselves, compile everything.
[03:42] <amphi> Jolly: remove the hd
[03:42] <dooglus> AdmiralCrunch: ok!  I've seen "yum" on RHEL and "urpmi" on Mandrake, and assumed they all had their own version of the same kind of thing.
[03:42] <Jolly> come on i need real security answers
[03:42] <bur[n] er> Jolly: i think i'm supposed to say d0n't be l3ws3r or something like that
[03:42] <bluefoxicy> Jolly:  buy a linksys router, put it between your cable modem and you, don't forward any ports back.  :>
[03:42] <djmccormick_> bur[n] er, it lets me, yep. though of course it'd be nice to just be able to edit the file
[03:42] <kevo_tool> Jolly: Outsource your security to some security firm.
[03:42] <djmccormick_> why can it let me replace files, make files, etc. but not let me edit the file
[03:42] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: it does in dapper ;)
[03:42] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: due to gedit's lack of gnome-vfs support
[03:43] <dooglus> AdmiralCrunch: even if you compile everything for yourself, it's still good to have the system know the dependancies.  "apt-get build-dep" is a life-saver, for instance
[03:43] <wastrel> djmccormick_:  the directory permissions may allow write but the files inside the directory can have their own permissions
[03:43] <bimberi> er_CHEF: there's links, links2 or lynx, take your pick
[03:43] <mustard5> Jolly, disable CD access from bios, password bios, and password the grub menu
[03:43] <AdmiralCrunch> dooglus: oh deffinitly, I used to use slack, its great for learning, but damn is it a curve
[03:43] <mustard5> Jolly, I mean disable CD boot from bios actually
[03:43] <djmccormick_> bur[n] er, so i should be able to edit with another proggie
[03:43] <NBZ4live> hi  all
[03:43] <Jolly> i changed my wireless linksys router's pw so i guess that is a step in the right direction for most n00bs like me
[03:44] <er_CHEF> lynx
[03:44] <IdleOne> djmccormick_:  try using nano
[03:44] <bimberi> er_CHEF: sudo aptitude install lynx
[03:44] <bur[n] er> djmccormick_: not yet
[03:44] <bur[n] er> for dapper
[03:44] <dooglus> AdmiralCrunch: I had some guy on MSN Messenger a few weeks ago telling me that Slackware was better than Ubuntu because - um - well, it's got a command line and - um - well, it just is.
[03:44] <NBZ4live> Can someone help me? I must use Arial or Times New Roman in Ubuntu
[03:45] <dooglus> AdmiralCrunch: I was interested to hear his reasoning, but it turned out he didn't have any.
[03:45] <djmccormick_> IdleOne, not to be rude but i clearly am trying to do gui editing
[03:45] <bimberi> NBZ4live: install msttcorefonts (from the multiverse repository)
[03:45] <FliesLikeALap> !tell FliesLikeALap about glxgears
[03:45] <IdleOne> djmccormick_:  k then
[03:45] <dooglus> IdleOne: I missed your question, but is "gedit" the answer?
[03:45] <AdmiralCrunch> dooglus: if you have an old box laying around, I suggest you try it just for fun. Just to see how wonderful a Debian-based system is.. it is fast, but a little optimization on Debian-based and you have effectivly the same speed
[03:45] <NBZ4live> bimberi: With Synaptic?
[03:46] <bimberi> NBZ4live: yes
[03:46] <bimberi> ubotu tell NBZ4live about multiverse
[03:46] <IdleOne> dooglus: ??
[03:46] <NBZ4live> bimberi: Thank you)))
[03:47] <bimberi> NBZ4live: yw :)
[03:48] <Jolly> its really weird sometimes i click a picture link in firefox and the browser just disappears... does anyone know why???
[03:48] <Jolly> firefox on my xp box works awesome but on linux i am not to happy so far
[03:48] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: what picture link do you speak of, in your gnome panel... or what?
[03:49] <nathaniel> Hello, is there anyway to make use of the windows key in Breezy
[03:49] <AdmiralCrunch> nathaniel: yes
[03:49] <nathaniel> how?
[03:49] <NBZ4live> Thanks for the help. ciao)))
[03:49] <Jolly> sorry admiral i am a total n00b with linux i dont even know what gnome is??
[03:50] <Jolly> i click a thumbnail link in photobucket and the firefox browser shuts down
[03:50] <lampshade> Anyone know how to install a printer via command line only?
[03:50] <Xenguy> Jolly: gnome is a 'desktop environment' ; 1 of the GUIs
[03:50] <AdmiralCrunch> nathaniel: I will search something up for you.
[03:50] <Jolly> yes then i have it
[03:50] <torpedo|dog> Jolly, GNOME is what runs your desktop and menus.
[03:50] <Jolly> i am not using KDE
[03:50] <wastrel> lampshade:  you'd have to edit your cups configuration files
[03:50] <nathaniel> admiralCrunch: Thanks
[03:50] <AdmiralCrunch> nathaniel: take a look through this thread
[03:50] <Jolly> i am definatly using GNOME
[03:50] <Xenguy> Jolly: there's also KDE, XFCE, and a host of lesser 'window managers'...
[03:51] <AdmiralCrunch> nathaniel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560&highlight=%22Windows+key%22
[03:51] <lampshade> lpadmin is rejecting my command   (set model) failed: server-error-internal-error
[03:51] <Xenguy> Jolly: all of which mean you can make linux look like you want :-)
[03:51] <dooglus> !fuse
[03:51] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dooglus
[03:51] <hgill> hey .. i need some help with XGL: I had started with ATI drivers (fglrx) lastest ver from website... I followed through ubuntu forum guide to install XGL from cvs. Im almost done to the part i have to execute the script. The thing is tht my video drivers have myteriously changed to MESA while doing the whole process .. is this correct... ?
[03:51] <Jolly> yeah i know what you guys mean by GNOME now
[03:51] <dooglus> !/dev/fuse
[03:51] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dooglus
[03:51] <Jolly> its my gui interface
[03:51] <keithhhhhhhhh> finally firefox is installed  :D
[03:51] <ELpH95o> anyone know how to build a low latency kernel in ubuntu?
[03:52] <AdmiralCrunch> keithhhhhhhhh: what 1.5 or something?
[03:52] <keithhhhhhhhh> ya
[03:52] <C_J_Pro> Is it just me or does Firefox seem more stable in Dapper than it does in Breezy?
[03:52] <Jolly> and i am using firefox with a GNOME desktop environment and for some reason when i click on certain picture links the browser will just disappear
[03:52] <AdmiralCrunch> C_J_Pro: Its been quite stable for me
[03:52] <keithhhhhhhhh> I wonder though if 1.07 is still lerking around my system
[03:52] <Jolly> if i click the same link in the epiphany web browser it doesnt do that
[03:52] <AdmiralCrunch> C_J_Pro: I am also on dapper, dist-upgraded from Breezy
[03:52] <Jolly> why does firefox suck when it comes to this
[03:52] <Jolly> when i use firefox on my xp partition it works awesome
[03:53] <Xenguy> Jolly: I haven't had any major stability problems with FF so far (tho I hear rumours of memory leakage before 1.5)
[03:53] <Twisty> Does anyone know if there is a way I can set up my 5.1 speakers, like on windows I just set them up to 5.1
[03:53] <dooglus> Jolly: sounds like a bug in firefox.
[03:53] <Jolly> i am pretty sure mine is before 1.5
[03:53] <nathaniel> AdmiralCrunch: Thanks a lot
[03:53] <hgill> anyone here.. expert in xgl and ati?? i need some help..
[03:53] <wastrel> what picture?
[03:53] <AdmiralCrunch> nathaniel: no problem man
[03:53] <Jolly> yeah i am using 1.07
[03:53] <Jolly> 1.0.7
[03:53] <wastrel> hgill:  dapper?
[03:53] <Fujitsu> hgill, see #ubuntu-xgl
[03:53] <Xenguy> Jolly: the default Breezy version is 1.0.7
[03:53] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly:  You may want to upgrade
[03:53] <Jolly> can i use synaptic to upgrade?
[03:53] <_jason> !xgl
[03:53] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:54] <C_J_Pro> Apparently Dapper runs really well in any case...Dapper is running quicker on an AMD K6-2 500 MHz than Breezy is on a P4 2.8 GHz...
[03:54] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly:  you have to follow a guide, its fairly simple
[03:54] <Fujitsu> #ubuntu-xgl is more active than #xgl-ubuntu
[03:54] <Xenguy> Jolly: there's a howto, but it didn't seem to work smoothly for me -- YMMV
[03:54] <hgill> thnx guys
[03:54] <_jason> Fujitsu: oh, didn't know they both existed
[03:54] <wastrel> dear newbies, if you all upgrade to dapper your mozilla will work better
[03:54] <bluefoxicy> C_J_Pro:  wow, dapper is running quicker on a quicker CPU. . .
[03:54] <C_J_Pro> lol
[03:55] <C_J_Pro> now I've gotta go sin
[03:55] <Xenguy> wastrel: upgrading to unstable is just a bad idea -- I'll wait a couple of months instead
[03:55] <Xenguy> wastrel: ahhh
[03:55] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: Here is one guide, I beleive there are several: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:55] <bluefoxicy> C_J_Pro:  this is not #announce_when_You_masturbate thx.
[03:55] <bluefoxicy> . . .
[03:55] <bluefoxicy> oh god no
[03:55] <C_J_Pro> at least it isn't ME <_<
[03:55] <_jason> !xgl =~ s/#xgl-ubuntu/#xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl/
[03:55] <ubotu> _jason: OK
[03:55] <Xenguy> bluefoxicy: yes it's true
[03:55] <Jolly> thanks i will try that
[03:55] <bluefoxicy> C_J_Pro:  do that other thing I said; anything but windows + dell
[03:55] <Xenguy> _jason: nice
[03:55] <keithhhhhhhhh> any quick advice on mounting my XP partition into Ubuntu
[03:56] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: No Problem
[03:56] <bluefoxicy> keithhhhhhhhh:  don't do it read-write or you will destroy shit.
[03:56] <wastrel> Xenguy:  it's kindof like all these people who are teaching commands like  rm -rf  and chown -R  to newbies who have just laid eyes on bash for the first time
[03:56] <keithhhhhhhhh> blue - really
[03:56] <Jolly> another quick question about X-chat Irc
[03:56] <C_J_Pro> Actually, my Dell PCs run better than most others
[03:56] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: what is that
[03:56] <Jolly> which i am using to chat with you guys
[03:56] <keithhhhhhhhh> blue - that really sucks
[03:56] <bluefoxicy> keithhhhhhhhh:  yes, the NTFS driver doesn't know how to write to NTFS right.
[03:56] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: yeah
[03:56] <Jolly> when you reply to me it shows up in red
[03:56] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: yes
[03:56] <bimberi> ubotu tell keithhhhhhhhh about mountwindows
[03:56] <Xenguy> wastrel: the only way to learn proper command-line is to totally blow something up ;P
[03:56] <Travis> you have to install kernel support
[03:56] <Jolly> but when i chat to you does it come up red?
[03:57] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly:  Its because we are saying stuff with your nickname in it
[03:57] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly:  you arent
[03:57] <C_J_Pro> My uncle worked 3rd row tech support at Dell...yet he hates it when I have problems with my computers and now that I have Ubuntu on one of my Dells, he just says no to every problem we have >_<
[03:57] <Travis> does the new version of Ubuntu Dapper Drake support NTFS writting?
[03:57] <Jolly> AdmiralCrunch: is this in red?
[03:57] <AdmiralCrunch> yes
[03:57] <AdmiralCrunch> well... orange for me
[03:57] <Jolly> okay thanks
[03:57] <Jolly> i was always wondering how that worked
[03:57] <bimberi> Travis: yes, but it's for the brave
[03:58] <AdmiralCrunch> Travis: NTFS writing is... risky at best
[03:58] <pingpongboss> how do we enable ntfs writing?
[03:58] <kbrooks>  Scheduled for April 2006, Dapper will also feature a GUI installer optimised for simplicity and speed.
[03:58] <barosl> Travis, i guess only "writing", not "adding"
[03:58] <kbrooks> this true?
[03:58] <pingpongboss> currently, only the super user can even access my windows partition
[03:58] <wastrel> Xenguy:  it's all fun and games until you rm -rf your mounted windows drive
[03:58] <IdleOne> kbrooks:  should be
[03:58] <barosl> is there any way to identify someone by ident(nick!name@host)?
[03:58] <bimberi> kbrooks: hopefully, but not in flight4
[03:59] <Xenguy> wastrel: heh, you must be the psychic one in the family ;-)
[03:59] <AdmiralCrunch> pingpongboss: you can always check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite?highlight=%28NTFS%29 but to be honest I am not sure
[03:59] <pingpongboss> alright! thanks
[04:00] <AdmiralCrunch> pingpongboss: no prob
[04:00] <Xenguy> wastrel: fortunately I knew a friend of the guy who did the Ghost'd Images at that shop ;-)
[04:00] <_avatar> i'm running dapper with an ati radeon 9600 mobility card. i'm using the xorg-driver-fglrx driver, but fglrxinfo says i'm still using the Mesa GL subsystem. how can I fix it to use ati's opengl driver?
[04:00] <wastrel> heh
[04:01] <Xenguy> wastrel: it was a stealth linux install too, so I was screwed unless I got some underground help :P
[04:01] <AdmiralCrunch> _avatar: do you have fglrx in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:01] <_avatar> AdmiralCrunch, yeah
[04:01] <Xenguy> wastrel: er, dual-boot
[04:02] <ELpH95o> all linux distrros are good
[04:02] <ELpH95o> depends on what you're looking for
[04:03] <ELpH95o> at the core it's all linux pretty much
[04:03] <amphi> ELpH95o: 'at the kernel', shurely
[04:03] <AdmiralCrunch> _avatar: have you rebooted, or did you just restart X
[04:04] <wastrel> _avatar:  i used fglrxconfig on breezy.  worked dandy
[04:04] <_avatar> AdmiralCrunch, i've rebooted. i've also gotten it to work using ATI's driver installer, but i'd rather use the version in the apt repository
[04:04] <Pop-Pete> I'm new to Ubuntu, just wanted to know if it is a better distro for installing MythTV. I have had ZERO luck with KnoppMyth
[04:05] <_avatar> wastrel, yeah, it worked fine with breezy.
[04:05] <wastrel> maybe the kids on the dapper channel know
[04:05] <_avatar> wastrel, yeah, no one has been able to help me in #ubuntu-1
[04:06] <_avatar> oh well
[04:06] <AdmiralCrunch> _avatar: odd, mine is working, even after the kernel update which some are experiencing problems with today... have you run sudo fglrxconfig
[04:06] <wastrel> hopefully they fix this before dapper is released :]   i like my dri
[04:06] <_avatar> AdmiralCrunch: yup
[04:07] <B_166-ER-X> ok, now i have amarok 1.3.8   It does 'detect' my ipod, technically.   But After a long 'analysis'  'scan' of the ipod (i think that was it)    well..uh, nothing.. i dont see it, or anything 'on it'
[04:07] <ELpH95o> distrowars are pointles
[04:07] <B_166-ER-X> or there is something i am missing
[04:07] <ELpH95o> whatever does the job is good
[04:07] <AdmiralCrunch> B_166-ER-X: Can you mount it
[04:07] <Jolly> I just installed Firestarter... is there a way i can find it through the GUI?
[04:07] <B_166-ER-X> according to nautilus, it is mounted
[04:08] <Jolly> or is that terminal only??
[04:08] <mustard5> Jolly, it should be in your Applications>>System Tools menu
[04:08] <Jolly> i dont see it
[04:08] <mustard5> Jolly, it might a appear after you restart gnome
[04:09] <sonicGB> OK, I found some pretty good brochureware at http://help.ubuntu.com/quicktour/C/quicktour.html, I was able to turn that in to a printable document pretty quickly
[04:09] <Jolly> so do i need to reboot or can i just sgin out and sign back in
[04:09] <AdmiralCrunch> B_166-ER-X: Try ungplugging it, plugging it back in.. open your terminal pop in "dmesg" see what comes up for your ipods drive, and mount it using "sudo mkdir /media/ipod/ | sudo mount -t vfat /dev/WHATEVERYOURIPODIS /media/ipod"
[04:09] <jsestri2> I need help with my audio: Breezy 5.10 seems to recognize my onboard Realtek ALC880, but something is broken between programs and the hardware, i'm pretty sure something with alsamixer is messed up, but i dont know whats wrong with it, any ideas?
[04:09] <jjjjjjj> well not sure what happened this morning but vsftpd is finally up
[04:09] <mustard5> Jolly, just log out and log back in
[04:09] <sonicGB> amphi: http://help.ubuntu.com/quicktour/C/quicktour.html <---- that's pretty good for my needs
[04:09] <Jolly> okay brb
[04:10] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[04:10] <jjjjjjj> i formatted... installed freebsd a few times and tried installing ubuntu vs edubuntu.  <sigh>
[04:10] <wastrel> mmm brochure
[04:10] <wastrel> are there ubuntu user groups?
[04:11] <Delvien> Are linux update servers down ? cant download 2.6.15-16
[04:13] <eodchop> Good evening everyone
[04:13] <tomkelleher> hey guys, I'm having problems booting Ubuntu, I can't get the Live CD to boot unless I boot with "vga=771 npapic nlapic" but once I get past the inital loading (the ubuntu splash) my screen goes insane, it goes between grey and blue with lines in random places
[04:13] <roostishaw> can someone hlep me with getting ubuntu to see my wireless card?
[04:13] <B_166-ER-X> AdmiralCrunch .. about the 'dmesg'       http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9150
[04:13] <roostishaw> its not in the list anymore
[04:13] <Rodrigo_ima> good night
[04:14] <eodchop> rootis: have you configured it yet?
[04:14] <roostishaw> i mean sys>admin>net.
[04:14] <Bung> the default bittorrent client that came with ubuntu sucks, and Azureus is too hard on my ram... does anyone have any suggestions for something in between?
[04:14] <roostishaw> ya, it worked like two days ago
[04:15] <roostishaw> it just dosn't appear in that list anymore, so i can activate it
[04:15] <jsestri2> can anyone help me fix amixer/alsamixer/my sound?
[04:15] <Rodrigo_ima> I'm installing SWAT to configure SAMBA, one of the steps is to restart i
[04:15] <tomkelleher> does anybody have any idea what I can do?
[04:15] <roostishaw> know wut i mean?
[04:15] <AdmiralCrunch> B_166-ER-X: Well evidently, it mounted itself... /dev/sda2 I beleive... ever try GTKPod?
[04:15] <eodchop> what kind of notebook is it?
[04:15] <roostishaw> me?
[04:15] <eodchop> yea
[04:15] <amphi> roostishaw: what sort of card?
[04:15] <roostishaw> its a desktop
[04:15] <B_166-ER-X> Gtkpod jsut Hang when i try to Sync it with my pod
[04:15] <Jolly> Mustard5 thanks its there now
[04:15] <roostishaw> D-link DWL-G520
[04:15] <mustard5> tomkelleher, without a command prompt its hard to think how to fix it
[04:15] <eodchop> ok..for a desktop
[04:15] <roostishaw> ya
[04:16] <B_166-ER-X> i know my ipod have some ERRORS but i CANT repair them, if no apps are working..
[04:16] <AngryElf> where do I change the type of monitor that I am using so that it has the right refresh ratess?
[04:16] <amphi> roostishaw: sorry, don't know about that one
[04:16] <ELpH95o> is opensuse any good?
[04:16] <Rodrigo_ima> the inetd but this command line don't works. /etc/init.d/inetd restart Can someone help me ?
[04:16] <roostishaw> k
[04:16] <roostishaw> it just isn't in the list anymore
[04:16] <Fujitsu> tomhelleher, what kind of PC?
[04:16] <tomkelleher> mustard5: so if I can't see a command promt you think there is no solution?
[04:16] <Fujitsu> Video card?
[04:16] <mustard5> Jolly, I think you can also do killall gnome-panel and that restarts the gnome-panel
[04:16] <roostishaw> no, wireless
[04:16] <wastrel> Rodrigo_ima:  what error are you getting?
[04:16] <slavik> can gtkwifi configure stuff for wpa networks?
[04:16] <tomkelleher> HP dv5000z notebook Fujitsu
[04:17] <Rodrigo_ima>  I'm installing SWAT to configure SAMBA, one of the steps is to restart i the inetd but this command line don't works. (sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart) Can someone help me ?
[04:17] <Jolly> well i got it working now
[04:17] <Jolly> is firestarter a good linux firewall?
[04:17] <mustard5> tomkelleher, quite possibly..what type of graphics card does your system use?
[04:17] <Fujitsu> *tomkelleher
[04:17] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to jsut 'format' the ipod ? or something
[04:17] <slavik> Jolly: firestarter is not a firewall
[04:17] <jjjjjjj> where is the kernel?  when i installed freebsd today i had the option to edit a rc.conf file for fine tuning.
[04:17] <jsestri2> is there a way to get old versions of packages?
[04:17] <roostishaw> !firestarter
[04:17] <Jolly> its a program to start one up
[04:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[04:17] <slavik> jjjjjjj: ubuntu is not freebsd
[04:17] <mustard5> tomkelleher, its a good indication that an install won't go smoothly anyway :)
[04:17] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: Do you have a router?
[04:17] <jjjjjjj> i realize that
[04:18] <tomkelleher> mustard5: an ATI Raedon Xpress 200M at 128MB
[04:18] <jjjjjjj> but can the kernel be edited in ubuntu?
[04:18] <slavik> jjjjjjj: ubuntu does give the option thing
[04:18] <Jolly> yes a linksys wireless one
[04:18] <slavik> jjjjjjj: no
[04:18] <slavik> jjjjjjj: look into gentoo, it was started by an ex freebsd dev. :)
[04:18] <slavik> jjjjjjj: they even ported the ports system, now it's portage :)
[04:18] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: To be honest, you may be good with just your router if you configured it fine
[04:18] <slavik> tomkelleher: X doesn't start?
[04:19] <jjjjjjj> mmmmno i'll pass... my eyes were crossed playing with freebsd.
[04:19] <eodchop> roostishaw: takte a look at this link, follow the thread..if it doesnt work i would configure it with ndiwwrapper. I should work out of the "box"
[04:19] <Jolly> i changed the pw on it
[04:19] <mustard5> tomkelleher, k...ATI cards are often troublesome with linux
[04:19] <cyberglyph> Im new to nix.  I installed and now it says im not the owner and i cant get into my drives or setup a network connection.
[04:19] <Jolly> cause its wireless
[04:19] <tomkelleher> slavik: nope, well unless it does and my graphics card just goes insane
[04:19] <slavik> tomkelleher: you using ati?
[04:19] <Jolly> and i heard people can war drive by your house and shut your internet connection down
[04:19] <slavik> I mean the driver module in X
[04:19] <tomkelleher> slavik: yea unfortuetly
[04:19] <dooglus> jjjjjjj: you can fiddle with the kernel in ubuntu if you want to.  install package 'linux-source'
[04:19] <AdmiralCrunch> Jolly: While you are at it, turn on WEP and change your SSID, you never know when a wardriver is by, and ussually unless they really want your connection they wont crap wep
[04:19] <slavik> tomkelleher: change it to vesa then install the ati fglrx driver
[04:20] <ikaruga2099> Hi all, I just wanted to know if anyone has compiled the latest Scribus on ubuntu. It's asking me for some packages not on the repository.
[04:20] <AngryElf> hey all, is there a place to setupp what monitor I'm using so that I don't have to track down refresh rates???
[04:20] <Fujitsu> Ahh.
[04:20] <Fujitsu> HPs are often evil.
[04:20] <cyberglyph> how do i set owner permissions to my logon?
[04:20] <slavik> AdmiralCrunch: my friend set certain mac addresses to be allowed on the network at all :P
[04:20] <mustard5> slavik, you can change the driver on liveCD at startup?  I didnt know that :)
[04:20] <Jolly> AdmiralCrunch, thanks i will try that
[04:20] <Rodrigo_ima> I'm installing SWAT to configure SAMBA, one of the steps is to restart the inetd but this command line doesn't works. (sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart) Can someone help me ?
[04:20] <tomkelleher> slavik: so the Live wont work? and what do you mean switch o vesa? external monitor?
[04:20] <jsestri2> cyberglyph, you need to be 'root' user. Two options: start commands needing access with 'sudo' (give your own password) or you can use sudo passwd root to set the root user password
[04:20] <slavik> mustard5: is it a livecd? I didn't know that
[04:20] <AdmiralCrunch> slavik: it isnt hard to spoof mac addresses :P
[04:20] <slavik> tomkelleher: I had a problem with ubuntu install.
[04:21] <slavik> AdmiralCrunch: but you have to know it from a list of 5 :)
[04:21] <mustard5> tomkelleher, if its possible to get to a login prompt or command line somehow we would be in business
[04:21] <Bung> the default bittorrent client that came with ubuntu sucks, and Azureus is too hard on my ram... does anyone have any suggestions for something in between?
[04:21] <dooglus> slavik: can you sniff a mac address from the network?
[04:21] <cyberglyph> ill try that. thanks.
[04:21] <slavik> tomkelleher: I edited the xorg conf (I was able to get cli) and instead of "ati" I put in "vesa"
[04:21] <AdmiralCrunch> if you can see the traffic, you can
[04:21] <jsestri2> cyberglyph: its usually not best to run only as root
[04:21] <slavik> dooglus: I wouldn't know ...
[04:21] <Rodrigo_ima> I'm installing SWAT to configure SAMBA, one of the steps is to restart the inetd but this command line doesn't works. (sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart) Can someone help me ?
[04:21] <Fujitsu> Very easy to see the MAC, if you can see the traffic properly.
[04:21] <jsestri2> cyberglyph: you only really want to run as root if you need to
[04:21] <slavik> dooglus: he doesn't have a wireless system that is always connected :)
[04:22] <dooglus> slavik: watch the network traffic, catch a mac address, and use that.
[04:22] <tomkelleher> mustard5: all I can do is boot "live vga=771 noacpi nlacpi"
[04:22] <slavik> dooglus: you'd have to watch it 24/7 ...
[04:22] <jsestri2> is there a way to get old versions of packages?
[04:22] <slavik> tomkelleher: that noapic and nolapic
[04:22] <slavik> jsestri2: probably not, why would you want that?
[04:22] <AdmiralCrunch> slavik: I know its unlikely, but people that are your neighbors and shit can be determined sometimes to get a connection :p
[04:22] <mustard5> tomkelleher, yep...I understand.
[04:23] <slavik> AdmiralCrunch: true ... but his neighbors use windows :)
[04:23] <dooglus> jsestri2: they might be lying about in /var/cache/apt/archives - or they might be on the mirrors - but other than that I don't think so.
[04:23] <jsestri2> slavik: well i updated ALSA and it sort of helped my onboard sound card issues, but it also caused mroe problems
[04:23] <AdmiralCrunch> slavik: hehehe
[04:23] <dooglus> jsestri2: check the apt package cache - the old version might be there
[04:23] <jsestri2> dooglus: alright
[04:23] <sethk> AdmiralCrunch, It isn't all that unlikely
[04:23] <slavik> jsestri2: I see ... you can probably get the old deb from their sourceforge site
[04:23] <sethk> AdmiralCrunch, I can see 7 different networks from here
[04:24] <mustard5> tomkelleher, I have a thought
[04:24] <AdmiralCrunch> slavik: I can get 16 with my antenna from my room, but I have my own connection so I have no need to use them
[04:24] <slavik> can gtkwifi handle wpa networks?
[04:24] <jsestri2> slavik: ok, you wouldn't happen to know anything about amixer/alsamixer would you?
[04:24] <amphi> sethk: all open? ;)
[04:24] <slavik> AdmiralCrunch: nice ... I wish I had that many
[04:24] <sethk> amphi, no, but believe it or not, only mine and one other has a password
[04:24] <mustard5> tomkelleher, when it starts going 'crazy', try pressing ctrl + alt + f1
[04:24] <slavik> jsestri2: no, sorry
[04:24] <mustard5> tomkelleher, see if that takes you to a 'terminal prompt'
[04:24] <tomkelleher> mustard5: then what
[04:24] <jsestri2> slavik: alright, thanks anyways
[04:24] <slavik> np
[04:24] <AdmiralCrunch> slavik: unfortunately... no kismet :( only stumbler and I have been off windows for some time
[04:25] <Rodrigo_ima>  I'm installing SWAT to configure SAMBA, one of the steps is to restart the inetd but this command line doesn't works. (sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart) Can someone help me ?
[04:25] <Pop-Pete> Is Ubuntu a good Distro for MythTV?
[04:25] <mustard5> tomkelleher, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow the dialog
[04:25] <IdleOne> !mythtv
[04:25] <ubotu> hmm... mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[04:25] <sethk> Rodrigo_ima, I think ubuntu uses xinetd, not inetd
[04:25] <sethk> Rodrigo_ima, in which case, the thing isn't going to work anyway
[04:25] <mustard5> tomkelleher, try switching to vesa drivers when you find that option in the dialog
[04:25] <tomkelleher> mustard5: alright I'll try that now, thanks I'll get back on here and let you know
[04:25] <mustard5> tomkelleher, you might have to type startx to start up the GUI
[04:25] <Pop-Pete> ubotu, thank you
[04:25] <ubotu> my pleasure, Pop-Pete
[04:26] <mustard5> tomkelleher, good luck
[04:26] <slavik> ubotu, go die
[04:26] <ubotu> slavik: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:26] <mustard5> tomkelleher, choose the default answers for anything you don't know the answer to in the dialog
[04:26] <IdleOne> ubotu:  you rock
[04:26] <ubotu> thanks idleone :)
[04:26] <IdleOne> np
[04:26] <AdmiralCrunch> ubotu, you are my hero
[04:26] <ubotu> AdmiralCrunch: I think you lost me on that one
[04:27] <mustard5> tomkelleher, if in doubt hit enter and move on to the next question :)
[04:27] <wastrel> inetd is the default i believe, i installed xined with apt a couple days ago
[04:27] <morphix> hmm
[04:27] <mustard5> tomkelleher, you can run it as many times as you like
[04:27] <b1ind> anyone know if it is possible to use a computer as a remote control w/ lirc?
[04:28] <slavik> can gtkwifi handle wap networks?
[04:28] <Kr4t05> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:28] <Kr4t05> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:28] <Kr4t05> eject: unmount of `/dev/hdb' failed
[04:28] <Kr4t05> Help?
[04:28] <slavik> and how do I set up my "network" to share a printer connected to a windows system?
[04:28] <keithhhhhhhhh> is there any short cut keys for moving between desktops?
[04:28] <IdleOne> !print
[04:28] <ubotu> somebody said print was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[04:28] <wastrel> keithhhhhhhhh:  ctrl-alt & arrow keys
[04:28] <IdleOne> !windowsprint
[04:28] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[04:28] <holobyted> is it possible to change the window notification style? ie, not make the window title bold and the like
[04:29] <slavik> Kr4t05: do a remount and don't paste so much
[04:29] <mustard5> Kr4t05, sudo umount /media/cdrom -l
[04:29] <keithhhhhhhhh> cool thanks
[04:29] <wastrel> keithhhhhhhhh:  you can also add some in the keyboard shortcuts prefs panel
[04:29] <axisys> how do i play this with mplayer?
[04:29] <axisys> http://webcast.berkeley.edu/events/rss/events.php?category=All
[04:29] <Kr4t05> mustard5, slavik, thanks and sorry
[04:29] <morphix> what are the library files for jpeg & png?
[04:29] <wastrel> morphix:  libjpeg & libpng ?
[04:30] <rohan> is there anyway to play m4a format??
[04:30] <axisys> it fails like this http://pastebin.com/567994
[04:30] <Kr4t05> mustard5: How do I remount it so I can open the drive tray?
[04:30] <morphix> nope
[04:30] <jasz> hello all
[04:30] <wastrel> morphix:  what are you trying to do?
[04:30] <jsestri2> when you use amixer, the option -D allows you to select a device, how do you name the device?
[04:30] <morphix> compile WxBase
[04:30] <mustard5> Kr4t05, the button should work now
[04:31] <mustard5> Kr4t05, it only locks up the button when its mounted
[04:31] <wastrel> morphix:  you need the -dev packages
[04:31] <morphix> yeh i know
[04:31] <Kr4t05> mustard5: No, it doesn't.
[04:31] <wastrel> morphix:  do you know how to search the package system?
[04:31] <jasz> this is great, i plugged in my iPod shuffle.. and ubuntu detected it and rhythmbox too.. great.. but... (hehe)  .. i have some songs i ripped with itunes.. in the m4a format... how do i play these songs in ubuntu?
[04:31] <mustard5> Kr4t05, hmmm..it might be mounted still?
[04:31] <mustard5> Kr4t05, type mount
[04:31] <mustard5> Kr4t05, see if its listed
[04:31] <morphix> Which libraries should wxWidgets use?
[04:31] <morphix>                                        jpeg               none
[04:31] <morphix>                                        png                none
[04:31] <morphix> :(
[04:32] <morphix> says that during compile
[04:32] <Kr4t05> mustard5: Not there.
[04:32] <wastrel> morphix:  you need to find the dev packages in the package system .  do you know how to search the package system?
[04:32] <slavik> IdleOne: no info on getting access to the windows printer :(
[04:32] <mustard5> Kr4t05, hmmm...ok..well there is usually an emergency eject hole on the front of the drive..you could try that
[04:32] <morphix> yeh
[04:32] <morphix> apt-cache search
[04:32] <mustard5> Kr4t05, look for a tiny hole in the front of the drive
[04:32] <sethk> Kr4t05, unbend a paper clip
[04:33] <Kr4t05> mustard5: I know, but I didn
[04:33] <wastrel> morphix:  right.   then grep for dev in the output
[04:33] <morphix> i just installed libjpeg62-dev .. doesnt seem to work
[04:33] <slavik> Kr4t05: use the paperclip and some gub to build a nuclear missile ...
[04:33] <slavik> s/gub/gum/
[04:33] <morphix> hope libjpeg-mmx-dev will work
[04:33] <Kr4t05> mustard5: I didn't want to resort to that.
[04:33] <IdleOne> jasz: http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/Howtos/convert_aac/ try that
[04:33] <mustard5> Kr4t05, ok...lets try something else then
[04:34] <Kr4t05> mustard5: I remounted and still can't get it to eject via right click.
[04:34] <IdleOne> jasz:  google is your friend ()
[04:34] <mustard5> Kr4t05, it really sounds like a situation for poking something in the hole :)
[04:35] <B_166-ER-X> !backports
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:35] <mustard5> Kr4t05, sudo umount /media/cdrom0/ -l
[04:35] <jasz> hm
[04:35] <mustard5> Kr4t05, see if that works
[04:35] <Madpilot> Kr4t05: have you tried "sudo eject" in a terminal?
[04:35] <mustard5> Madpilot, thats another good idea :)
[04:35] <jasz> at least the ipod works..
[04:36] <arentie> What application does everyone recommend to burn iso images?
[04:36] <Kr4t05> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:36] <Kr4t05> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[04:36] <Kr4t05> eject: unmount of `/dev/hdb' failed
[04:36] <Kr4t05> ick
[04:36] <Kr4t05> Oops
[04:36] <Kr4t05> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[04:36] <Kr4t05> That
[04:36] <sethk> Kr4t05, then /dev/hdb is not your cd drive
[04:36] <bimberi> arentie: nautilus (the file manager) right-click, write to CD/DVD
[04:36] <Madpilot> arentie: use Gnome's file manager - find your ISO, right click on it, and choose Burn To Disc
[04:36] <IdleOne> !tell Kr4t05  about pastebin
[04:36] <cyphase> :O
[04:36] <Kr4t05> IdleOne, sorry
[04:37] <cyphase> and has linux drivers on the cd
[04:37] <inva|id> where would I start investegating if I have no sound?
[04:37] <jjjjjjj> night
[04:37] <vlauzums> question - is there any package for ubuntu that's the equivalent of powerpoint?
[04:37] <mustard5> inva|id, lsmod to see if sound card drivers are loading....and lspci to see if the sound card is detected
[04:37] <Kr4t05> mustard5: the little hole worked.
[04:37] <Kr4t05> mustard5: Thanks
[04:38] <arentie> I've tried that and my CD Burner doesn't like it
[04:38] <mustard5> Kr4t05, yeah..it sounded like a situation that really needed that
[04:38] <bimberi> vlauzums: openoffice.org2  (impress)
[04:38] <mustard5> Kr4t05, maybe the CD is flaky
[04:38] <Kr4t05> mustard5: Maybe.
[04:38] <vlauzums> bimbery: thanks a lot :)
[04:38] <bimberi> vlauzums: np :)
[04:38] <sethk> Kr4t05, the little hole always works.  it's a mechanical latch.  :)
[04:39] <sethk> Kr4t05, it can't not work, even if it wants to...
[04:39] <Kr4t05> mustard5: I always have issues when I burn with nautilus.
[04:39] <Madpilot> Kr4t05: I've got a couple of audio CDs that needed 'sudo eject' - no idea why. Never had to use the emergency release
[04:39] <epp> what can i do to speed up gnome. i only have 64mb ram.
[04:39] <Kr4t05> mustard5: Next time I burn a CD, I'll burn it at a slower speed, maybe that will fix it.
[04:39] <mustard5> Kr4t05, quite possibly
[04:40] <vvvvvvv> !w32codecs
[04:40] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:40] <roostishaw> HOW  DO I OPEN A TAR.BZ2?
[04:40] <roostishaw> anyone?
[04:40] <Kr4t05> roostishaw: tar --help
[04:40] <mustard5> roostishaw, on gnome?
[04:40] <roostishaw> ya
[04:40] <roostishaw> on gnome
[04:40] <Pop-Pete> Is there anything special I need to configure to install Ubuntu on a SATA drive?
[04:40] <mustard5> roostishaw, double click on it and it opens
[04:40] <Kr4t05> Gah, use the terminal, you mook.
[04:40] <dooglus> roostishaw: TYPE TAR XF <TARFILE> IN A GNOME-TERMINAL
[04:40] <axisys> roostishaw: tar jvxf
[04:41] <inva|id> roostishaw: tar jvxf file.tar.bz
[04:41] <roostishaw> its bz2
[04:41] <inva|id> roostishaw: same thing
[04:41] <axisys> roostishaw: yeap
[04:41] <dooglus> roostishaw: IT DOESN'T MATTER IF ITS BZ2
[04:41] <Pop-Pete> I am trying to partition my SATA drive but it doesn't seem to recognize the drive
[04:41] <axisys> roostishaw: did u try yet?
[04:41] <Fujitsu> dooglus, yes it does!
[04:41] <Kr4t05> dooglus: Most people find the excessive use of caps offensive on most networks.
[04:41] <roostishaw> wait, i will
[04:41] <dooglus> Fujitsu: wanna bet?
[04:41] <amphi> dooglus: your blood-pressure... ;)
[04:42] <ikaruga2099> On a related note, I'm trying to compile a program but configure says "Can't find X includes." ???
[04:42] <amphi> dooglus: it is considered shouting
[04:42] <dooglus> amphi: I'm calm now.
[04:42] <dooglus> amphi: he started it :)
[04:42] <arentie> Gnomebaker is good for nothing on my computer
[04:42] <roostishaw> tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory
[04:42] <roostishaw> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[04:42] <roostishaw> tar: Child returned status 2
[04:42] <roostishaw> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[04:42] <roostishaw> ?
[04:42] <arentie> Is there an alternative burning app to try other than kb3?
[04:43] <mustard5> arentie, gnomebaker?
[04:43] <axisys> roostishaw: hmm.. let me try
[04:43] <nm> rootishaw: check to see that you a) have bzip installed, b) that it's location is in your path
[04:43] <epp> thats right you are dooglus...
[04:43] <inva|id> roostishaw: looks like you typed the wrong filename
[04:43] <bimberi> arentie: we told you (for iso's anyway)
[04:43] <axisys> inva|id: good catch
[04:43] <roostishaw> but shouldn't i just be able to dubble - click it?
[04:43] <mustard5> arentie, oopps..missed your first message :)
[04:43] <epp> dooglus, you drop balls to amphi.
[04:43] <arentie> I know you told me, but I need something that actually works
[04:43] <dooglus> roostishaw: try    PATH=$PATH:/bin tar xf file.tar.bz2
[04:43] <dooglus> epp: drop balls?
[04:43] <arentie> It shouldn't be difficult to burn iso's
[04:44] <roostishaw> k, wait
[04:44] <sethk> roostishaw, it is trying to use bunzip2 in a pipeline and then tar, and not finding it.  one of those two programs is not installed or has a problem
[04:44] <nm> shouldn't he need the -j switch
[04:44] <nm> for bzip2
[04:44] <sethk> arentie, it isn't
[04:44] <dooglus> nm: no, the -j switch is optional
[04:44] <arentie> It's seems impossible
[04:44] <epp> doglus, you do whatver he tells you... you puss out to him.
[04:44] <nm> heh
[04:44] <epp> dooglus, you do whatver he tells you... you puss out to him.
[04:44] <sethk> nm, if he were missing the switch, he would get a different message
[04:44] <Delvien> Anyone else got FGLRX working in 2.6.15-16-i686?
[04:44] <arentie> The burner works great in crappy Windows, but not in Ubuntu
[04:44] <dooglus> epp: shut up :)
[04:45] <epp> dooglus, im just fooling.
[04:45] <roostishaw> sethk, how can i fix that problem?
[04:45] <Madpilot> arentie: Nautilus doesn't work for you?
[04:45] <wastrel> i'm printing a pdf
[04:45] <inva|id> roostishaw: did you save it to your desktop?
[04:45] <dooglus> roostishaw: the problem is you don't have bzip2 in your PATH ('scuse caps, y'all)
[04:45] <epp> whats is the deal with this gnome without nautilis thats supposed to be faster?
[04:45] <mustard5> ikaruga2099, what are you compiling?
[04:45] <roostishaw> ya, when i dubble click it says
[04:45] <epp> GDC or something.
[04:45] <roostishaw> Couldn't display "/home/roostishaw/EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.bz2".
[04:46] <arentie> No, Nautilus does not work for me, and it has not since Hoary
[04:46] <mustard5> ikaruga2099, pastebin the error so I can see whats missing...
[04:46] <mustard5> !tell ikaruga2099 about pastebin
[04:46] <epp> arenitie, what do you mean?
[04:46] <roostishaw> dooglus, how do i add it to my path?
[04:46] <Madpilot> arentie: bleh - Naut. is the one burning tool in Ubuntu that's never burned a coaster for me - go figure, heh?
[04:46] <B_166-ER-X> libgpod is NOT in the breezy repos...but in dapper, how could i get it ?
[04:46] <dooglus> roostishaw: what happens if you run this in a terminal?     ls -l /bin/bzip2
[04:46] <arentie> I mean I cannot burn iso CD images using Natilus
[04:47] <itsonlyme> hi
[04:47] <wastrel> arentie:  it's not too difficult to do it via command line.
[04:47] <B_166-ER-X> arentie,  yes you can
[04:47] <epp> roostishaw, dooglus doesnt know... he dropps balls.
[04:47] <roostishaw> epp, lol
[04:47] <roostishaw> dooglus, ls: /bin/bzip2: No such file or directory
[04:47] <Madpilot> B_166-ER-X: he's tried, it screws up for him, it seems...
[04:47] <dooglus> roostishaw: there's your problem then...
[04:47] <B_166-ER-X> weird
[04:47] <amphi> roostishaw: do you have bzip2 installed?
[04:47] <nm> dooglus: as i mentioned several lines back
[04:47] <nm> ;D
[04:47] <B_166-ER-X> as my ipod screw me here
[04:48] <keithhhhhhhhh> Is there anyway to shrink the icons on my desktop?
[04:48] <roostishaw> amphi, i dont know, IM A NOOB
[04:48] <amphi> ipods are teh suck
[04:48] <epp> roostishaw, you need to install bzip.
[04:48] <wastrel> keithhhhhhhhh:  yes
[04:48] <roostishaw> epp, how?
[04:48] <arentie> where may I find how to burn cd's from a command line
[04:48] <mustard5> B_166-ER-X, you could get the package but I wonder what other issues it will cause should you install it
[04:48] <dooglus> roostishaw: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install bzip2"
[04:48] <amphi> roostishaw: sudo apt-get install bzip2 on a terminal
[04:48] <mustard5> B_166-ER-X, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:48] <Fujitsu> No!
[04:48] <Fujitsu> bzip2 should be in /usr/bin!!!
[04:48] <Fujitsu> which bzip2 would do more good.
[04:48] <wastrel> <3 bzip2
[04:49] <dooglus> I have /usr/bin/bzip2 -> /bin/bzip2
[04:49] <arentie> k3b is "no dice" for me too...any recommendations on what to try?
[04:49] <roostishaw> amphi, still says: Couldn't display "/home/roostishaw/EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.bz2".
[04:49] <epp> anyone running xubuntu?
[04:49] <itsonlyme> Im try to set up my desktop with openbox,  rox,  and pypanel (My computer is a little too slow for gnome)...  I can use GDM to set openbox as the windows manager, but I can't get .xsession or .xinitrc to run.  Where do I put the files I want to run automaticly after login?
[04:49] <dooglus> roostishaw: what if you type     ls -l /usr/bin/bzip2
[04:49] <wastrel> what's xubuntu
[04:49] <keithhhhhhhhh> what do you guys do for sharing files between ubuntu and xp?
[04:50] <Madpilot> arentie: Gnomebaker? As a last resort, you could try the command line burning tools...
[04:50] <wastrel> burning an iso via cli is pretty simple
[04:50] <Bung> where is the online applications database?
[04:50] <epp> wastrel, are you serious?
[04:50] <jsestri2> when i run alsamixer, i get this message: "alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[04:50] <jsestri2> " can i get some help with this problem?
[04:50] <roostishaw> dooglus,    ls -l /usr/bin/bzip2
[04:50] <mustard5> keithhhhhhhhh, a seperate fat32 partition of some kind
[04:50] <Bung> i cant find a place on the ubuntu site to see what packages are avaialble
[04:50] <dooglus> roostishaw: I meant in a terminal, not here :)
[04:50] <keithhhhhhhhh> mustard5 great exactly what I was thinking of doing....
[04:51] <epp> wastrel, its like kunbuntu, but xfce4. Its supposed to be great for slow systems.
[04:51] <roostishaw> dooglus, no srry, -rwxr-xr-x  3 root root 24720 2005-08-22 07:20 /usr/bin/bzip2
[04:51] <mustard5> keithhhhhhhhh, even an external usb drive would be good
[04:51] <b1ind> Is there any way to integrate wine's systray w/ gnome's?
[04:51] <Bung> gentoo has gentoo-portage.com .... how can i see the programs available for Ubuntu online?
[04:51] <dooglus> roostishaw: ok, so bzip2 is installed.  what if you type this in a terminal:      echo $PATH
[04:51] <wastrel> sweet
[04:51] <epp> well... im off to xubuntu. brb.
[04:51] <bimberi> Bung: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:51] <roostishaw> dooglus, (BTW, im not that much of a noob,    :)
[04:51] <Bung> Thank You
[04:51] <bimberi> Bung: yw :)
[04:52] <dooglus> roostishaw: I was wondering...  :)
[04:52] <roostishaw> dooglus, /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[04:52] <dooglus> roostishaw: strange.
[04:52] <dooglus> roostishaw: run       type bzip2
[04:52] <epp> roostishaw, sure... mr i dont know how to bzip2.
[04:52] <roostishaw> epp, ?????
[04:53] <roostishaw> dooglus, bzip2 is /usr/bin/bzip2
[04:53] <epp> roostishaw, im just bored and am just talking shit. dont listen to me.
[04:53] <dooglus> roostishaw: so it can find bzip2; I don't know why you're having problems then
[04:53] <roostishaw> epp, ok, lol
[04:53] <dooglus> epp drops balls.
[04:53] <epp> BRB al.
[04:53] <wastrel> happy happy.   hmm i should uninstall some of these older kernels, only have about 10M left in /boot
[04:53] <dooglus> Big Red Balls?
[04:53] <Delvien> how do i run a .run file ? double click it?
[04:54] <_jason> maybe it's a bunzip2 problem
[04:54] <roostishaw> dooglus, it just say Couldn't display "/home/roostishaw/EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.bz2".
[04:54] <pingpongboss> yea, how do you uninstall old kernal version
[04:54] <wastrel> Delvien:  what are you trying to install?
[04:54] <epp> dooglus, you left your balls on the floor when you ran from me.
[04:54] <dooglus> roostishaw: what if you run this, in the directory with the file:     tar xf file.tar.bz2
[04:54] <pingpongboss> i have an old kernal in the grub boot menu
[04:54] <dooglus> roostishaw: (where the filename is the right one, of course)
[04:54] <pingpongboss> how do you uninstall it/ remove it
[04:54] <hcal> anyone know where the GDM start scripts go?
[04:54] <wastrel> pingpongboss:  probably apt-get remove
[04:54] <Delvien> Wasterl ATI drivers
[04:54] <roostishaw> dooglus, lol... one sec
[04:55] <Delvien> wastrel nm i found it
[04:55] <pingpongboss> wastrel: for kernels??
[04:55] <bimberi> pingpongboss: run synaptic, search for 'linux-image' and uninstall the old version(s)
[04:55] <wastrel> pingpongboss:  they're packaged
[04:55] <_jason> hcal: I think ~./gnomerc get's called when you login, don't know of other places
[04:55] <pingpongboss> ahhh
[04:55] <roostishaw> dooglus, AHHHHHHHH, im sorry i wasted ur time, it worked...
[04:55] <roostishaw> dooglus, thx for the help
[04:55] <Oddsee> I'm having some difficulty installing breezy to this laptop.  It has a software array on a pci scsi card and installs system files without complaint, but no boot-loader will properly install.  Can anyone help?
[04:55] <pingpongboss> but is there a chance of destroy the whole system?
[04:55] <Delvien> How do i get a Driver for 386 to work in 686?
[04:55] <bluefoxicy> i have a question.
[04:55] <hcal> _Jason , even when you are using a different wm?
[04:55] <dooglus> can
[04:56] <_jason> hcal: probably not
[04:56] <Rodrigo_ima> when I use killall -HUP inetd to restart network services this message appear(inetd: no process killed). What's is that?
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> Does anyone here actually find GNOME's save dialog (with the triangle dropdown, or the dropdown that goes to "Other" to bring up a folder browser) actually nice?
[04:56] <hcal> :)
[04:56] <Rodrigo_ima> when I use killall -HUP inetd to restart network services this message appear(inetd: no process killed). What's that?
[04:56] <pingpongboss> dooglus: is the "can" directed at me?
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> or is it pretty much universal that hiding the directory browser was a BAD idea?
[04:56] <B_166-ER-X> do i have to be sudo to compile ?
[04:56] <dooglus> pingpongboss: it was a non-specific 'can'
[04:56] <pingpongboss> lol...?
[04:56] <_jason> B_166-ER-X: no, but probably to install
[04:56] <pingpongboss> dooglus: meaning....?
[04:56] <dooglus> pingpongboss: nothing.  it's late.
[04:57] <pingpongboss> lol ok
[04:57] <bluefoxicy> I'm trying to throw this as an argument on a bug on GNOME's bugzilla, arguing to REMOVE the whole "Expand to browse" save dialog design in GtkFileChooser; so speak now . . .
[04:57] <dooglus> pingpongboss: I was going to type something, but accidentally hit the return key after 'can'.
[04:57] <bimberi> pingpongboss: just don't uninstall the latest version, there might be something that prevents you doing that anyway but i'm not sure
[04:57] <wastrel> heh
[04:57] <pingpongboss> ahh
[04:57] <wastrel> bluefoxicy:  good luck with that.
[04:57] <warpzone> I might be asking in the wrong forum, but is there a nice tutorial somewhere on beautifying gnome? like how to do the transparancies and such
[04:57] <cradek> bluefoxicy: pisses me off that I can't just type a bloody path now
[04:58] <magenet> what linux kernel does ubuntu use?
[04:58] <wastrel> bluefoxicy:  it's frustrating, idiotic and plain difficult to use.
[04:58] <cradek> bluefoxicy: I wonder whose bright idea that was
[04:58] <bluefoxicy> cradek:  in 2.13 I believe you can.
[04:58] <wastrel> bluefoxicy:  i loathe it
[04:58] <dooglus> cradek: you can type control-l and then a path.
[04:58] <roostishaw> How can i open a zip file in ubuntu?
[04:58] <jsestri2> can anyone help me with alsa? i suspect taht some sort of card configuration got messed up.
[04:58] <wastrel> zomg
[04:58] <wastrel> roostishaw:  do you not have file-roller?
[04:58] <roostishaw> wastrel, i guess not
[04:59] <warpzone> can you open zips in linux? I think thats a pure windows thing
[04:59] <pingpongboss> wait.. so uninstalling an old linux kernel has NO chance of breaking the system?
[04:59] <wastrel> zip is cross platform
[04:59] <_jason> warpzone: yep with 'unzip'
[04:59] <wastrel> unzip is the command
[04:59] <The_Visitor> lol
[04:59] <Madpilot> warpzone: no, zips work fine in Linux
[04:59] <warpzone> oh wow, okie
[04:59] <amphi> The_Visitor: bye
[04:59] <_jason> although I just tried to unzip a split archive and it didn't work, so watch out for those :)
[04:59] <jsestri2> anyone know anything about configureing alsa?
[05:00] <warpzone> ha, I might be lame but the first thing I want to do with ubuntu is make it all pretty
[05:00] <Tsingi> can anyone tell me where to look for mp3 codecs?
[05:00] <warpzone> anybody know where to find a gnome tutorial? my searches havent come up with anything
[05:00] <wastrel> that's not a bad reflex considering ubuntu's default color themes ;] 
[05:01] <wastrel> for themeing?  art.gnome.org  gnome-look.or
[05:01] <wastrel> +g
[05:01] <warpzone> hey, beats the standard default gnome
[05:01] <Tsingi> warpzone: for what aspect?
[05:01] <warpzone> wastrel: thanks!
[05:01] <terracorp> hy who can help me  with ubunto?
[05:01] <_jason> ubotu: tell Tsingi about mp3
[05:01] <warpzone> Tsingi: just trying to make gnome pretty, transparancies, colors, all that jazz
[05:02] <_trick> hi, I installed ubuntu on a computer, and then I changed the monitor and now it only displays 800x600
[05:02] <amphi> !tell terracorp about ask
[05:02] <terracorp> i don`t see my hard drives
[05:02] <terracorp> hard disk
[05:02] <croxis> Question: If I uninstall a package, will the package file remain on my harddrive so i dont have to download it again?
[05:02] <_trick> acording to my xorg.conf it should display more, I think
[05:03] <Madpilot> !mount
[05:03] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[05:03] <Madpilot> terracorp: ^^^
[05:03] <Tsingi> warpzone: no, sorry, I could probably use smoe help there too.
[05:03] <croxis> !help
[05:03] <terracorp> 10x
[05:04] <wastrel> croxis:  not sure ... you can download a package without installing it tho.
[05:04] <terracorp> and how do i instal yahoo messagre?
[05:04] <wastrel> terracorp:  gaim has a yahoo messenger plugin
[05:04] <Oddsee> I'm having some difficulty installing breezy to this laptop.  It has a software array on a pci scsi card and installs system files without complaint, but no boot-loader will properly install.  Can anyone help?
[05:04] <Madpilot> terracorp: gAIM can do the yahoo stuff
[05:04] <croxis> I know, but I just massivly screwed something up so I want to uninstall it and reinstall it, but I dont want to have to download 10 megs again :)
[05:04] <warpzone> oh, another question... is there a way to uninstall the standard apps that came with ubuntu?
[05:04] <croxis> as i'm on dial up
[05:05] <terracorp> 10x
[05:05] <russellc> does anyone know if there's a way to change the default file manager from nautilus to something else?
[05:05] <mustard5> croxis, what type of extra storage devices do you have?
[05:05] <wastrel> croxis:  if you have the package in your /var/cache/apt/archives  copy it out before you remove the package
[05:06] <wastrel> croxis:  you can check after you uninstall & tell us if it's still there :] 
[05:06] <Oddsee> wastrel, any idea? =)
[05:07] <wastrel> Oddsee:  sry i'm not up on bootloader troubleshooting.  i usually do pretty vanilla installs
[05:07] <croxis> testing
[05:07] <helfire> hello, i just installed ubuntu on my Dell D510 laptop, and the synaptics trackpad is unbarilby slow
[05:07] <terracorp> how can i make my tv tunner work on ubuntu?
[05:07] <Oddsee> wastrel: aside from setting up the array, it really is just a 'nilla install
[05:07] <mustard5> terracorp, what brand?
[05:08] <peej> I have a breezy system with a buggy xdm (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+source/xdm/+bug/2461). dapper has a fixed xdm. So, looking in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ ....
[05:08] <terracorp> wait a sec
[05:08] <Hmmmm> hey guys, im on breezy and wanted to dirty my feet with dapper drake. is it a good idea?
[05:08] <Oddsee> wastrel: Regardless, thanks
[05:08] <magenet> what linux kernel does ubuntu use?
[05:08] <croxis> yup, its still there
[05:08] <wastrel> helfire:  you can modify synaptics behavior in the xorg.conf  file.    /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics   for info
[05:08] <russellc> does anyone know if there's a way to change the default file manager from nautilus to something else?
[05:08] <amphi> helfire: try xset
[05:09] <terracorp> tunner V Stream cipset connexant
[05:09] <bimberi> magenet: breezy uses 2.6.12, dapper (the development version) 2.6.15
[05:09] <wastrel> Hmmmm:  it depends on your hardware - some people run dapper fine, some - well they cant get their stuff working.
[05:09] <helfire> thanx i'll try that out
[05:09] <peej> um... should xdm be updated if it is buggy?
[05:09] <Xenguy> russellc: just install krusader :-)
[05:09] <odla> peej: ?
[05:09] <mustard5> terracorp, hmm ok..
[05:10] <magenet> damn
[05:10] <Hmmmm> wastrel, i have pretty generic hardware - P4, with on-board sound/vdo...
[05:10] <bluefoxicy> wastrel, cradek:  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332270
[05:10] <magenet> i need 2.4
[05:10] <russellc> Xenguy: what does that do? lol
[05:10] <russellc> isn't that another file manager?
[05:10] <peej> odla : buggy for breezy (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+source/xdm/+bug/2461)
[05:10] <Hmmmm> wastrel, what's a good way to upgrade my distro?
[05:10] <bluefoxicy> wastrel, cradek:  Have at them if you wish.
[05:10] <Xenguy> russellc: it's a dual-pane file manager (apt-cache show krusader)
[05:10] <mustard5> terracorp, can you open the pastebin in your browser and paste the output of lsmod command in there please?
[05:10] <odla> peej: yeah that wouldn't stop a program from being 'updated'
[05:10] <wastrel> Hmmmm:  what's your video card?  dri with ati / fglrx is pretty broken in dapper i've heard.
[05:10] <mustard5> terracorp, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:11] <terracorp> ok thanks
[05:11] <odla> upgrading and updating are to remove bugs and add features
[05:11] <russellc> Xenguy: but i would like to use Thunar as my default file manager
[05:11] <peej> odla: is xdm a supported part of ubuntu ?
[05:11] <Xenguy> russellc: ahh
[05:11] <russellc> Xenguy: lol, yup
[05:11] <russellc> Xenguy: it is fantastic
[05:11] <odla> peej: yeah...but the default *dm is gdm
[05:11] <mustard5> terracorp, hit the 'send' button when you do that ..and then show me the URL it creates
[05:12] <flyfish> hi
[05:12] <Xenguy> russellc: I don't see it in the Ubu repos
[05:12] <wastrel> Hmmmm:  regardless, change breezy to dapper in your sources.list file apt-get update , apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:12] <wastrel> Hmmmm:  if you want to live dangerously ;] 
[05:12] <Hmmmm> wastrel, S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[05:12] <russellc> Xenguy: i installed it from their svn
[05:12] <Hmmmm> wastrel, i think im gonna bite the bullet
[05:12] <russellc> Xenguy: i don't think its available officially in the repos
[05:12] <wastrel> !dapper
[05:12] <ubotu> I guess dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[05:12] <Hmmmm> wish me luck
[05:12] <wastrel> gl :] 
[05:12] <Hmmmm> :)
[05:12] <Xenguy> russellc: I'll STFW
[05:12] <russellc> Xenguy: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.xhtml
[05:12] <io_> Anybody know why wireless connectivity with ndiswrapper sucks in ubuntu, but works fine in gentoo?  It seems to be installed the same way - what makes ubuntu so different?  (Dropping connections, never finding the servers)
[05:12] <russellc> huh? lol
[05:13] <Hmmmm> btw anyone know when the fancy new stuff with xgl (rotation/transparency...) will come to ubntu?
[05:13] <Madpilot> Xenguy: "Surf The Fine Web"?
[05:13] <peej> odla: so does that mean anything other than default settings will remain unfixed until next release?
[05:13] <russellc> Hmmmm: isn't it going to be released with the next novell linux? (i believe)
[05:13] <Xenguy> Madpilot: search the f web
[05:14] <Hmmmm> russellc, ah okay
[05:14] <odla> peej: it will be fixed if a bug report has been made and if it's a priority fix
[05:14] <Madpilot> Xenguy: ah :P
[05:14] <russellc> Xenguy: lol, i gave you a link up there: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.xhtml
[05:14] <Xenguy> russellc: looks very interesting, wouldn't mind some screenshots, but don't see any
[05:14] <mustard5> terracorp, you having trouble with that?
[05:14] <wastrel> bluefoxicy:  you don't pull punches heh.  seems to me the guys who designed the current pile of crap might be more receptive to requests to change it if we were more diplomatic about our criticism of their previous work ;]   but i don't know the history of the debate so i'll leave it at that.
[05:14] <russellc> Xenguy: really? http://thunar.xfce.org/screenshots.xhtml
[05:15] <Madpilot> Hmmmm: the new fancy stuff won't be in the next release, from what I've read - that's in mid-April. Next Ubuntu release is in October/06
[05:15] <Xenguy> russellc: I searched google -- thx
[05:15] <russellc> Xenguy: no prob, heh.
[05:15] <Shadowline> startkeylogger
[05:15] <jsestri2> can anyone help me get my alsa setup correctly, i think my card is not configured correctly...
[05:15] <russellc> still wondering how i can get it as the default file manager, though
[05:15] <Shadowline> opp's wrong channel
[05:15] <Hmmmm> Madpilot, byt im sure we shud get some way to mplement it, right?
[05:15] <helfire> using xset to try to change my mouse speed seams to have no affect
[05:15] <bluefoxicy> wastrel:  i'm a very business-like person.
[05:16] <bluefoxicy> wastrel:  if someone is screwing up, I tell them.  If they don't like it, too bad.  I'm not going to wander around the issue and pretend it's okay.
[05:16] <Madpilot> Hmmmm: people are already hacking the test releases of Dapper to run xgl/etc
[05:16] <B_166-ER-X> while preparing to compile... : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!  ...what do i do with this ?
[05:16] <peej> odla: this one has a priority of "normal". A geek can fix it, but it is bad if you want to use ubuntu breezy in a slick lightweight mode (eg icewm, blackbox etc).
[05:16] <Xenguy> russellc: looks really interesting... I hope that dropping to command-line is well integrated
[05:17] <peej> jsestri2 : what's the problem? Tried xmms? mpg123?
[05:17] <odla> peej: ubuntu-lite?
[05:17] <odla> try it
[05:17] <jsestri2> peej: what are those? -- my problem is that amixer/alsamixer don't run correctly. It would seem the defualt settings for both are wrong
[05:17] <russellc> Xenguy: haha, hmm don't seem to see that option anywhere to get into commandline quickly
[05:17] <dukex64> hello
[05:17] <peej> odla: you are saying there's an ubuntu lite that does away with gnome gui?
[05:18] <mustard5> B_166-ER-X, you trying to install that dapper package?
[05:18] <russellc> Xenguy: not that it bothers me that much. it feels alot better than nautilus
[05:18] <odla> peej: yes...or you could try xubuntu
[05:18] <B_166-ER-X> mustard5 , no, compiling amarok
[05:18] <mustard5> B_166-ER-X, k
[05:18] <dukex64> im new, just installed ubunutu, have a dual monitor setup. my second monitor just shoes garbage .
[05:18] <dukex64> shows
[05:19] <jsestri2> are there any alsa wizards here? i could sure use one.
[05:20] <mustard5> dukex64, you using nvidia?
[05:21] <dukex64> yes
[05:21] <peej> odla : kewl. But ideally xubuntu and lite should have the same packages, give or take a few. Not different versions of same packages. Is that so? It it is, then xdm will be buggy on lite and x too. (and if it is not so, then that's kind of ugly, but, hey, who's looking a gift horse in the mouth ;-) )
[05:21] <peej> s/It/If/
[05:21] <mustard5> dukex64, your best be is to look through the forum threads on the subject if you havent done so already..I have one link in particular
[05:22] <odla> peej: ubuntu-lite is seperate from ubuntu...but xubuntu will have the same packages as ubuntu...i think ubuntu-lite uses getty insead of xdm
[05:22] <peej> jsestri2 : xmms is basically winamp for linux
[05:22] <dukex64> mustard: ok
[05:22] <mustard5> dukex64, have followed any guides on setting it up yet?
[05:22] <dukex64> nope
[05:22] <mustard5> dukex64, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85769&highlight=twinview
[05:22] <jsestri2> peej: oh, i dont care about that amixer/alsa is the interface betwen hardware and programs
[05:22] <ScreaminIke> is the default login for ubuntu bash?
[05:22] <terracorp> Hy i have a problem i can`t see my dirve C and D i see only the cd-rom  file sistem and flappy pleas help me  Private me pls
[05:23] <dukex64> ok thanks
[05:23] <mustard5> dukex64, also doing a search in the ubuntuforums with the keyword  'twinview' brings up quite a few hits
[05:23] <peej> odla: ta. Anyway, xdm is fixed for dapper, so that's good.
[05:23] <amphi> !tell terracorp about mount
[05:23] <wastrel> i like me some vnc
[05:23] <mustard5> dukex64, you might strike someone in here who has done it before...if you are lucky...so I figure it would be best for you to try that while you wait
[05:24] <peej> jsestri2 : you're aiming for music making? or just enabling sound?
[05:24] <jsestri2> peej: enabling sound
[05:24] <dukex64> mustard5: i'll read the forums and see how far that gets me
[05:24] <mustard5> dukex64, k
[05:24] <jsestri2> peej: it seems that my card is setup incorrectly
[05:24] <_avatar> i can get my ATI drivers to work properly (fglrxinfo reports ATI drivers), but after i reboot it doesn't work anymore, and i have to apt-get --reinstall linux-restricted-modulesXXX and xorg-driver-fglrx ... which works again until I reboot. why would this be happening?
[05:25] <io_> how do i get the latest version of ndiswrapper using the synaptics package manager ?
[05:25] <wastrel> _avatar:  are you starting the ati or radeon driver in /etc/modules  when you boot?
[05:25] <peej> jsestri2 : OK. 20 questions time: when ubuntu starts up, you get no sound whatsoever?
[05:25] <_avatar> wastrel, neither.
[05:26] <jsestri2> peej: none at all
[05:26] <ScreaminIke> is the default login for ubuntu bash?
[05:26] <wastrel> _avatar:  are you starting the fglrx driver?
[05:26] <peej> jsestri2 : you done anything other than default install?
[05:26] <_avatar> wastrel: not manually. i'm letting X start it for me. should i just add it to /etc/modules?
[05:26] <bimberi> ScreaminIke: yes (the default shell)
[05:26] <peej> jsestri2 : is your machine a weirdo machine or fairly standard? what is it?
[05:26] <jsestri2> peej: i have, originally if the soundcard was enabled, i couldnt boot past the hotplug subsystem. I had to update alsa to fix that
[05:27] <peej> jsestri2 : update? as in how?
[05:27] <jsestri2> i have a fairly standard machine intel p4, i have a Realtek ALC880 chipset onboard high def audio.
[05:27] <jsestri2> peej: as in apt-get
[05:27] <ScreaminIke> hrm... can someone help me write a script to kick idle users after 30 minutes?
[05:27] <ScreaminIke> but not all users...
[05:28] <ScreaminIke> like my non-root login... i don't want that kicked. ever.
[05:28] <jsestri2> peej: oh and i have the newer kernel too
[05:28] <peej> jsestri2 : ok, so you just apt-get updated breezy? You did not try mixing dapper in with breezy, right?
[05:29] <jsestri2> peej: nope
[05:29] <wastrel> _avatar:  i don't know if it'll help but it can't hurt...
[05:29] <amphi> ScreaminIke: you don't need a script
[05:29] <peej> jsestri2 : ermm... define nope please
[05:29] <wotnarg> bah, whats that tool to enter passwords from scripts? I can't remember... (Yes, I know its extremely insecure blah blah, yadda yadda :P)
[05:30] <_avatar> wastrel, damn, didn't fix it :(
[05:30] <amphi> ScreaminIke: apt-cache show autolog
[05:30] <shad0w1e> whats the differenct between 686 and 686-smp kernel? which is right for me?
[05:30] <jsestri2> peej: i was talking to a guy on this channel and he knew his stuff i guess. "crimsun" he had me run a command which i thought i understood to upgrade alsa from the universe repositories
[05:30] <peej> jsestri2 : hmm. googling gives a lotta wails of despair from reltek alc880 ubuntu users
[05:30] <mustard5> shad0w1e, smp is for dual processors
[05:30] <amphi> shad0w1e: -smp is for multiprocessor
[05:30] <shad0w1e> mustard5, thanks
[05:30] <shad0w1e> amphi, thanks
[05:31] <Rat> Two real quick questions... Do any of you guys know how to get GRUB back after installing WindowsXP ? So I can do a dual boot with linux... And my next question is can i set up a logical partition for my windows computer?
[05:31] <jsestri2> peej: yea, i've tried a bunch of those fixes, everyone seems different, and not the one for me
[05:31] <peej> jsestri2 : ok, but you started with breezy and just did an upgrade for breezy?
[05:31] <mustard5> !tell Rat about grub
[05:31] <jsestri2> peej: i'm almost 100% positive thats what i did
[05:31] <amphi> Rat: boot from a cd; mount your / somewhere; chroot to it; run grub-install
[05:31] <mustard5> Rat, check for a pm from ubotu
[05:31] <syllogism> Rat: I've always found that install linux AFTER windows is the best thing to do.  . .
[05:32] <jsestri2> you spent a lot on me tho
[05:32] <amphi> syllogism: that's not much use now ;)
[05:32] <Rat> okay thanks
[05:32] <mikeo1> is there a codecs pack for totem?
[05:32] <wastrel> !grub
[05:32] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:32] <ScreaminIke> i'm a philosopher. we say syllogism all the time
[05:32] <ScreaminIke> hrm... can someone help me write a script to kick idle users after 30 minutes?
[05:32] <mikeo1> totem crashes whenever i try to play a file
[05:33] <epp> hey i only have a 366mhz processor. What can i do to speed up linux?
[05:33] <syllogism> epp - choose console-only apps?
[05:33] <amphi> epp: use a lightweight window manager (or just use console)
[05:33] <mustard5> epp, you could run a lighter desktop
[05:33] <neiras> epp - strap the PC to your car and hit the freeway
[05:33] <ScreaminIke> 5
[05:33] <epp> mustard5, im running xubuntu.
[05:34] <amphi> ScreaminIke: autolog no good to you? or do you actually _want_ to write a script
[05:34] <wastrel> meh
[05:34] <syllogism> epp - you will save a lot of resources if you just skip X altogether
[05:34] <neiras> epp - how much RAM do you have?
[05:34] <Xenguy> epp: suck it up, or throw hardware at it :P
[05:34] <ScreaminIke> autolog?
[05:34] <ScreaminIke> if that's an app... i'll use it
[05:34] <amphi> ScreaminIke: apt-cache show autolog
[05:34] <dooglus> I was just typing in 'gaim' and it told me I had spelt "colour" wrongly.  How can I tell it to use proper English English instead of American English?
[05:35] <neiras> epp - my girlfriend runs GNOME on a 400MHZ box with 1GB of RAM - it's pretty snappy, incredibly
[05:35] <Xenguy> amphi: what did you just say?
[05:35] <wotnarg> dooglus install locale of en-gb or whatever
[05:35] <jsestri2> peej: the only option thats common i havent done is installing the alsa drivers from realtek...they do have some, but it involves compiling the kernel, and i'm not sure hwo compatable with ubuntu it is
[05:35] <epp> nerias, 64mb, but on my ram and cpu moniter. cpu always spikes upto 100% and momory is only using around 30-35megs. so only half of the memory is used.
[05:35] <chrome> epp: RAM is king
[05:35] <regeya> gnome can be snappy on old hardware.  RAM is the key.
[05:35] <ScreaminIke> oh!
[05:35] <dooglus> wotnarg: what's the package I need?
[05:35] <ScreaminIke> j00 pwnz0r
[05:35] <helfire> blah, still cant get my mouse to accelerate
[05:35] <wotnarg> dooglus: ummm
[05:35] <mustard5> epp, maybe you could examine what processes are using up the cpu
[05:36] <ScreaminIke> is it configgable to exempt certain users?
[05:36] <amphi> Xenguy: ScreaminIke must have thought I was joking about autolog the first time
[05:36] <dukex64> how do i edit a file
[05:36] <mustard5> epp, run top in command line to see whats using the most cpu
[05:36] <chrome> epp: in a termina, do a "vmstat 1". The last 4 columns, which is highest?
[05:36] <amphi> ScreaminIke: no idea - TFM awaits you
[05:36] <ScreaminIke> :)
[05:36] <wastrel> dooglus:  ibritish might do it... it's a british ispell dictionary
[05:36] <ScreaminIke> thanx, amphi
[05:36] <terracorp> help please
[05:36] <ScreaminIke> ily
[05:36] <terracorp> sudo mkdir /media/windows
[05:36] <amphi> dukex64: with the editor of your choice
[05:37] <terracorp> terracorp@TerraCorp:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[05:37] <peej> jsestri2 : You could try this maybe: have a look through the modules for sound modules, and rmmod and modprobe the ones you really think should be used.
[05:37] <jsestri2> dukex64: emacs is the best ever :-) (imo)
[05:37] <epp> its only using 30mb of ram though.
[05:37] <epp> ?
[05:37] <dukex64> im viewing this file with "text editor" i only have read access
[05:37] <amphi> terracorp: mount with no args will show you if it's mounted
[05:37] <mustard5> terracorp, umount first..I'll give you the command
[05:37] <jsestri2> dukex64: although you could type gedit
[05:37] <wotnarg> dooglus: thats a good question. I've never installed a locale before :P
[05:37] <mustard5> terracorp, sudo umount /media/windows
[05:37] <shad0w1e> anyone know how I can get 3d working on my nvidia card? is there some tutorial? thanks
[05:37] <amphi> !nvidia
[05:37] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:38] <chrome> epp: Check vmstat. Humour me. :)
[05:38] <wotnarg> dooglus: do apt-cache search british and install the dictionary ones. That should help.
[05:38] <Xenguy> dukex64: best editors are those that work at the console also :-)  Failing that, gedit  ?
[05:38] <mustard5> terracorp, if it gives no errors..try mounting again
[05:38] <dooglus> wastrel: I think gaim uses 'aspell', not 'ispell'
[05:38] <jsestri2> peej: therein lies the trick, im not reallly sure which ones i need. there's no place that lists it, ALSA dosent claim to support it...
[05:38] <wastrel> well then.
[05:38] <shad0w1e> why thanks!
[05:38] <peej> jsestri2 : lspci give any more clues?
[05:38] <terracorp> ok
[05:38] <terracorp> 10x
[05:38] <ScreaminIke> oh, man... can i get some help with this? i rtfm and i still dont get it
[05:39] <jsestri2> peej: here's an lspci: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9110
[05:39] <epp> whats the site for pastebin?
[05:39] <Xenguy> ScreaminIke: define "this" :-)
[05:39] <epp> oh nevermind...
[05:39] <Xenguy> ScreaminIke: nm
[05:39] <terracorp> terracorp@TerraCorp:~$ sudo mount /media/windows
[05:39] <terracorp> mount: can't find /media/windows in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:40] <apt514> Hi I installed 5.04 can i update with a 5.10 live cd?
[05:40] <enthused> hi, i'm having problems with cpufreqd on my laptop. i've changed cpufreq to run with setuid root, but i can't find the gnome applet to manipulate it. does anyone know where it is?
[05:40] <dukex64> it wont let me edit this xorg.conf file (read only)
[05:40] <mustard5> terracorp, no...use the mount command you were trying earlier
[05:40] <Xenguy> apt514: you can use a broadband Net connection too
[05:40] <terracorp> ok
[05:40] <dhanny> hi all.. i need help.. how to add epson lx-300+ driver to my ubuntu box?
[05:40] <Xenguy> apt514: live cd is wrong AFAIK
[05:40] <dhanny> i'm using ubuntu 5.10
[05:41] <Xenguy> apt514: use the net, or the install cd
[05:41] <mustard5> terracorp, you know you can press the up key in terminal to see prior commands you entered?
[05:41] <unkn0wn2u> dukex64, you need to type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:41] <terracorp> terracorp@TerraCorp:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[05:41] <terracorp> the same thing
[05:41] <jsestri2> peej: i'm confused how to use modprobe/modrm
[05:41] <mustard5> terracorp, sudo umount /media/windows -l
[05:41] <terracorp> ok
[05:42] <mustard5> terracorp, now try the full mount command again..if it gives no errors
[05:42] <terracorp> terracorp@TerraCorp:~$ sudo umount /media/window -l
[05:42] <terracorp> umount: /media/window: not found
[05:42] <amphi> jsestri2: modprobe -r <module> to remove a module, modprobe <module> to insert it
[05:42] <epp> here is my vmstat1 for chrome and stuff... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9151
[05:42] <dhanny> \quit
[05:42] <jsestri2> amphi: thanks
[05:42] <mustard5> terracorp, windows  not window
[05:42] <unkn0wn2u> terracorp, maybe you should give up
[05:42] <helfire> anyone know how to make the mouse go faster? i'm using a trackpad on a dell D510
[05:42] <dukex64> how do i login myself with administrative rights?
[05:42] <jsestri2> amphi, you wouldnt happen to have sound module knowledge?
[05:43] <peej> jsestri2 :  Sound chip : Intel 82801FB AC'97 Works fine with the default ALSA snd_intel8x0m module  -- though dunno if that will be true in your case - this was from a dell laptop post in freshrpms
[05:43] <amphi> helfire: did you try xset?
[05:43] <apt514> Xenguy i'm using a 33.6k
[05:43] <helfire> amphi: ya nothing changed
[05:43] <epp> mustard5 and chrome, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9151
[05:43] <jsestri2> peej: ok...that might be blacklisted by hotplug
[05:43] <amphi> helfire: what command did you use, exactly?
[05:43] <helfire> amphi: xset mouse 5 2
[05:44] <chrome> epp: what you've said is true, its not really got a problem with ram - though more would help it cache the filesystem better. It looks like its not going to get faster unless you get a faster CPU, mate
[05:44] <mustard5> terracorp, did you do it with 'windows' instead of 'window'?
[05:44] <jsestri2> peej: yeah thats blacklisted, says it might be incompatable
[05:44] <Xenguy> apt514: not ideal; maybe a CD upgrade is better
[05:44] <jsestri2> peej: i guess i ahve nothing to lose right?
[05:44] <terracorp> yes
[05:44] <terracorp> the same error
[05:44] <mustard5> terracorp, k
[05:44] <stoned> I am using audacity to record.  I can hear myself when I speak through the microphone, but when I record, it doesn't record any sound.  I am quite sure its configured properly.  how can I start troubleshooting?  I have tried this both with arts on, and arts off, since in my experience on debian sarge, audacity required full access the the sound.  I am using kubuntu.
[05:44] <Xenguy> apt514: order some cd's for the upcoming Dapper release in April
[05:44] <mustard5> terracorp, show me the command you entered please
[05:45] <io_error> is there a madwifi package?
[05:45] <chrome> epp: if you find one process is chewing up the CPU, you can find it with top and you'll need to make a decision whether you need it or not. Obviously you need "X" and things like that, but other processes may be unnecessary.
[05:45] <peej> jsestri2 : lsmod to see the modules, go to /lib/module/yourkernel/kernel/sound/ and have a look at likely stuff there. modprobe the likely modules. Test sound. Lather rinse, repeat etc. Watch your kernel hang maybe too. Try removing hotplug?
[05:45] <jsestri2> if i were to load a certain module into the kernel that then caused it to not be bootable, what is the command i'd add in GRUB make it boot iwthout it?
[05:45] <Xenguy> apt514: give them to your friends :-)
[05:45] <terracorp> sudo mount /dev/hdb /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[05:45] <amphi> helfire: try 50 2 ? ;)
[05:45] <esac_> is xcompmgr enabled in dapper ?
[05:45] <apt514> Xenguy sure on usb keys
[05:45] <epp> any ideas?
[05:45] <epp> ttt
[05:45] <helfire> amphi: no difference :(
[05:46] <mustard5> terracorp, what did sudo umount /media/windows -l   do?  no errors when you did it?
[05:46] <amphi> helfire: strange - perhaps some gnome thing is over-riding it?
[05:46] <chrome> epp: its installed on an iBook?! :)
[05:46] <jsestri2> peej: im told removing hotplug = badness but i guess i'll just start experimenting
[05:46] <terracorp> yep no errors
[05:46] <Xenguy> apt514: how much storage on your usb keys ?
[05:46] <chrome> epp: its installed on an iBook?! :)
[05:46] <mustard5> terracorp, hang on ..just reading something..
[05:46] <epp> hey sorry... wireless dropped out...
[05:46] <helfire> amphi: setting gnome's mouse settings doesnt seam to affect it either :/
[05:46] <unkn0wn2u> type just mount
[05:46] <epp> chrome, yeah...
[05:46] <terracorp> ok can`t we talk private?
[05:47] <terracorp> in a dialog window?
[05:47] <peej> jsestri2 : hotplug just lets you plug in new devices and use them immediately. eg usb sticks.
[05:47] <amphi> jsestri2: don't remove hotplug, just blacklist the module
[05:47] <chrome> epp: ok, so CPU upgrade is ruled out :)
[05:47] <mustard5> terracorp, yes
[05:47] <mustard5> terracorp, or join #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:47] <jsestri2> amphi: where do i blacklist it?
[05:47] <epp> chrome, well... i did read about resoldering some resistors for an overclock.
[05:47] <amphi> helfire: !blacklist
[05:47] <chrome> epp: don't do it
[05:47] <OmniColos> ubuntu burnt down my garage :(
[05:47] <amphi> bugger
[05:47] <peej> jsestri2 : oh yeah, and wifi and network magic these days.
[05:47] <apt514> Xenguy Kingston 256mb 20$ cdn http://www.oemexpress.com
[05:47] <amphi> !blacklist
[05:47] <ubotu> amphi: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:47] <epp> chrome, why?
[05:47] <epp> chrome, unstable?
[05:47] <amphi> !hotplug
[05:47] <ubotu> amphi: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:47] <chrome> epp: overclocking laptop CPUs usually is a bad idea yeah
[05:48] <jsestri2> amphi: and how do i fix it, if this breaks things such that it won't boot?
[05:48] <dooglus> wotnarg: I installed the british dictionaries, but gaim still thinks that 'colour' should be 'color'
[05:48] <regeya> aye, don't overclock a laptop CPU, and the idea of overclocking a ppc lappy just makes me want to soil myself
[05:48] <stoned> I am using audacity to record.  I can hear myself when I speak through the microphone, but when I record, it doesn't record any sound. Sound works perfectly on the system though. Volume levels are good for input/output  I am quite sure its configured properly.  how can I start troubleshooting?  I have tried this both with arts on, and arts off, does audacity require full access the the sound?
[05:48] <stoned> any help would be appreciated
[05:48] <Xenguy> apt514: that's not a cd's worth - has ubu got a base install for that storage size, or are you just dreaming ?  :-)
[05:48] <jsestri2> dooglus: learn REAL english :-P
[05:49] <wastrel> kingston eh
[05:49] <regeya> stoned, make sure your card mixer is set to use the mic as a recording device, as well as checking it in audacity.
[05:49] <chrome> epp: Is there any process in top that stands out to you that is using a lot of CPU? Other than "top" and "X" of course :)
[05:49] <unkn0wn2u> stoned do you have mic checked to record
[05:49] <wotnarg> dooglus: hrm... I really don't know much about the process of getting locales to work, I just know they exist.
[05:49] <stoned> yes I have
[05:49] <apt514> Xenguy Kingston 1g 70$ cdn too
[05:49] <amphi> jsestri2: add the module name to /etc/hotplug/blacklist it seems
[05:49] <odla> dooglus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:49] <stoned> I have configured kmix accordingly, input/output volume levels are good and green
[05:49] <Xenguy> apt514: that would do it then :-)
[05:50] <jsestri2> amphi: i thought you meant blacklist hotplug...
[05:50] <Xenguy> apt514: there's probably a howto by now
[05:50] <dooglus> jsestri2: I know real English.  I'm trying to teach gaim real English too.
[05:50] <amphi> jsestri2: no, it means tell hotplug not to load that module
[05:50] <jsestri2> amphi: alright cool
[05:51] <epp> chrome, so what can i do?
[05:51] <amphi> dooglus: could you be more parochial please ;)
[05:51] <wastrel> parochial eh.  i suggest you be more pluralistic
[05:51] <Ekushey> can someone help me with samba?
[05:51] <Xenguy> attack of the killer p's
[05:51] <Xenguy> :-)
[05:52] <chrome> epp_: not sure mate. If I were in your shoes I might consider a gentoo install, simply because its heavily customizable. But its a lot of work.
[05:52] <epp_> chrome, sorry wireless was freaking out. switched to wired.
[05:52] <epp_> chrome, so whwat can i do?
[05:52] <epp> ?
[05:52] <amphi> epp: you are on an ibook?
[05:52] <chrome> amphi: yeah he is
[05:52] <OmegaAlpha> hello great people of the linux community
[05:52] <jsestri2> amphi: you wouldnt suggest modprobeing anything?
[05:53] <amphi> epp: I installed debian on one of them, with X and openbox, and it ran well - I like the kernel hack for using the 'sleep' light as an hd access indicator
[05:53] <amphi> jsestri2: for what?
[05:53] <epp> chrome, I know I've tried.
[05:53] <epp> chrome, so will memory help? because it isnt even maxing out the memory.
[05:54] <jsestri2> amphi: the sound modules...or is hotplugging them the same deal?
[05:54] <epp> amphi, my hd is so loud i dont need a light, lol.
[05:54] <amphi> epp: heh
[05:54] <chrome> epp: it will, because it will be able to cache more. But, there is only so much you can do.
[05:54] <amphi> jsestri2: blacklist the module that you said was giving trouble at boottime
[05:55] <epp> yeah... i have the money for a ram upgrade and a new battery.
[05:55] <chrome> epp: I wouldn't expect a huge increase in performance by dropping in a 256MB simm, for example.
[05:55] <dooglus> I found system>administration>language-selector - maybe that can help (although in its big list of languages it only has one kind of "English".  I'm guessing it's the 'New World' version, but we'll see
[05:55] <apt514> Xenguy Or a Kingston 512mb pc3200 400 $50
[05:55] <chrome> epp: responsiveness, starting applications, these things should improve.
[05:55] <epp> but if u upgrade the ram i can install OSX 10.3 wich is prety speedy
[05:55] <amphi> epp: osx, eewww
[05:55] <OmegaAlpha> im looking for a quick answer for a question i have regarding the example given for the mounting of non-pw protected network files in Samba on wiki. *whew* thats a long sentence...
[05:55] <amphi> epp: darwin is slow
[05:55] <chrome> epp: haha, good luck :)
[05:56] <epp> chrome, i guess i will go with the memory.
[05:56] <jsestri2> amphi: i dont know what module is broken
[05:56] <epp> but i kinda want to save for the new mac tablets that are coming out.
[05:56] <epp> so i dunno.
[05:56] <wastrel> xfce4 is still a pretty beefy desktop environment.  you could go with just fluxbox or a nice slim windowmanager
[05:56] <jsestri2> amphi: when i goto use alsamixer or amixer, it acts like i've supplied an ivalid device
[05:56] <epp> wastrel, good advice.
[05:56] <apt514> Hey, How do i play a DVD in Totem?
[05:56] <hit> which vmlinuz and initrd.gz  should i use while install dapper?
[05:56] <LinuxNIT> how does ubuntu perform on older cpus? say P1 or P2
[05:57] <amphi> jsestri2: hast thou googled?
[05:57] <Madpilot> !tell apt514 about dvd
[05:57] <epp> apt514, you have to apt all these encryption things im pretty sure.
[05:57] <jsestri2> amphi: religiously
[05:57] <jsestri2> amphi: tried probaly at least 5 different "fixes" all to no avail
[05:58] <jsestri2> amphi: the sound wizard seems to be on now...i'll talk to him, thanks for the help though
[05:58] <amphi> jsestri2: I fear I have no sixth
[05:58] <epp> wastrel, can i jsut "sudo apt-get install fluxbox"?
[05:58] <apt514> Madpilot Thanks
[05:59] <chrome> dammit
[05:59] <chrome> i cant log into my character on WoW :(
[05:59] <morphix> gd-lib?
[05:59] <morphix> cant find it :(
[06:00] <wastrel> epp that should install it, not sure what's needed to change it to the default wm in your display manager
[06:00] <wastrel> epp:  actually you should turn off the display manager and just startx after you login.
[06:00] <Organs> Would this be the place to ask how to mount a CD drive so I can burn my ubunu image?
[06:00] <Organs> *ubuntu image
[06:01] <Organs> (And yes, I'm new to linux.  About 72 hours new)
[06:01] <apt514> epp how about mplayer?
[06:01] <Madpilot> Organs: which OS are you trying to burn in?
[06:01] <Organs> I'm in another distro of linux (cAos)
[06:02] <Organs> GNOME is my specific GUI as of now.
[06:03] <Madpilot> Organs: Nautilus can burn ISOs in Gnome - find your ISO file, right click, select "Burn To Disc"
[06:03] <Organs> First off, I need to mount the disc.
[06:03] <morphix> gd-lib? i need it
[06:03] <Organs> And I've got GnomeBaker, so I can burn just fine.
[06:03] <morphix> checking for gdlib-config... no
[06:03] <morphix> configure:
[06:03] <morphix>         WARNING: gd-lib >= 2.0.0, or a functional gd.h (from gd-devel) not found.
[06:03] <Organs> I need to mount the drive more than anything else.
[06:04] <Madpilot> Organs: your burner doesn't automount when you put a CD in it?
[06:04] <Organs> Nope.  Perhaps a problem then?  Lemmie see if I can get an error readout from somewhere.
[06:04] <shad0w1e> any time I try to insall nvidia-glx, it installs only into the 386 kernel and insists on installing modules for the 386 kernel... anyone know how to get it to run on the 686 kernel?
[06:04] <epp> wastrel, WOW! fluxbox is suuuper fast...
[06:05] <Organs> Madpilot, how would I manually mount the drive?
[06:06] <amphi> epp: the *boxes are nice, I use openbox here
[06:06] <epp> amphi, is is really quick?
[06:06] <Madpilot> Organs: I've never had to do that (yet), so I"m not at all sure. Try reading "man mount" in a terminal
[06:07] <Organs> sounds....fun.
[06:08] <kenny> hello
[06:08] <wastrel> i'm not familiar as much with the low-resource windowmanagers anymore, but i used to use them :]   stuck with a 333 celeron for a good number of years.  sawfish is decent and icewm and windowmaker
[06:08] <Madpilot> Organs: I've mounted harddrives, but not optical drives, so I'm not sure if they're mounted the same way
[06:08] <fangorious> any idea why the xmodmap to get the thumb button my mouse working would have changed from breezy to dapper?
[06:08] <fangorious> same mouse
[06:09] <Organs> 'kay, thanks Madpilot
[06:09] <Madpilot> Organs: hang around here and ask again later, or check ubuntuforums.org
[06:09] <fangorious> i was using imwheel+xmodmap in breezy, worked great
[06:10] <Organs> alrighty.
[06:10] <kenny> you know...I have to say somthing.....Thanks to all the Ubuntu Develpors.....you guys freaking rule...
[06:10] <kenny> DAPPER IS GREAT!
[06:10] <wastrel> Organs:  you have to mount the CD before you burn it?    you can't mount a blank CD can you?  there's no filesystem on it...
[06:11] <kenny> doesnt it mout as "black cdr" ?
[06:11] <kenny> blank*
[06:11] <wastrel> i dunno
[06:11] <kenny> hmm...one sec.
[06:11] <kenny> I'll check
[06:11] <fangorious> i get a desktop icon and a nautilus browser for a blank cd
[06:11] <kenny> yup.
[06:11] <fangorious> but it isn't really mounted I don't think
[06:11] <kenny> he's right
[06:12] <wastrel> java crashed my firefox :p
[06:13] <kenny> I finaly got Rhythmbox to support .wma files in dapper today....updates...good stuff
[06:14] <FunnyLookinHat> how does dapper look?
[06:14] <FunnyLookinHat> big changes or no
[06:14] <fangorious> yeah, i was quite please to see the gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse package
[06:14] <Syns> i would like to know the same..
[06:14] <kenny> umm..much like breezy...few changes
[06:14] <kenny> I agree fangorious
[06:15] <FunnyLookinHat> darn.  I was really hoping they'd squeeze gnome 2.14 into it.
[06:15] <epp> kenny, i heard its more responsive, is this true?
[06:15] <fangorious> FunnyLookinHat: they are
[06:15] <kenny> very.
[06:15] <fangorious> FunnyLookinHat: it has 2.13.91 at the moment
[06:15] <FunnyLookinHat> fangorious, oh really?  awesome!!
[06:15] <epp> kenny, nice to know.
[06:15] <hobbs> FunnyLookinHat: nice improvements, but nothing earth-shaking
[06:15] <kenny> yep
[06:15] <fangorious> i haven't been able to get xgl+compiz going on my ati laptop, and my nvidia is super old (tnt2) so i haven't tried
[06:15] <kenny> hmm...sorry
[06:16] <fangorious> and i can't get the thumb button to go Back in firefox/nautilus like i could in breezy
[06:16] <backan> there is someone kwon if the web camara Creative nx have some trovels with the kernel ??
[06:16] <fangorious> gnome-power-manager and network-manager and super sweet in dapper
[06:16] <kenny> well, are you using dapper
[06:16] <Syns> i downloaded dapper from bit torrent and got all kinds of corruptions
[06:16] <backan> *Nx
[06:16] <Syns> whats another download site?
[06:16] <fangorious> kenny: i am
[06:16] <andrew_> hey alll - quick bash sed question: if i have output that looks like a table, how do  get only the first column and ignore the rest
[06:16] <epp> is there a dapper for ppc?
[06:17] <kenny> ok...well, keep in mind dapper in in Alpha stage right now.....there are new updates like...everyday...so...if you cant find any answers...just be patient
[06:17] <wastrel> andrew_:  cut
[06:17] <andrew_> wastrel, can you be more specific?
[06:17] <wastrel> andrew_:  cut can pull part of a line of output
[06:17] <andrew_> ive beeen using sed -e 's\ blah blah blah
[06:17] <andrew_> alright
[06:18] <fangorious> kenny: yeah, i'm filing bug reports and everything
[06:18] <andrew_> ill look into it
[06:18] <andrew_> thanks
[06:18] <Syns> kenny, after installing dapper will those updates come automatically?
[06:18] <kenny> yes
[06:18] <Syns> k
[06:18] <Syns> whats another download site?
[06:18] <backan> there is someone kwon if the web camara Creative nx have some trovels with the kernel ??
[06:18] <kenny> Thats the thing to do...bug reports..
[06:18] <jerrod> how do you make Mplayer the default player in mozilla?
[06:18] <Syns> i tried bit torrent but got corrupt files
[06:18] <fangorious> Syns: the official site is the only one i know
[06:19] <kenny> syns....let me see if I can find a good torrent
[06:19] <Syns> im on xp now..
[06:19] <kenny> ahh..ok.
[06:19] <Syns> so torrent wont due..
[06:19] <kenny> hmm.
[06:19] <kenny> sorry.
[06:19] <Syns> whats the orginal site?
[06:19] <fangorious> Syns: no torrent on XP??
[06:19] <jerrod> ??^^
[06:19] <Syns> i had to reinstall breezy
[06:19] <Syns> hrm..
[06:19] <Syns> i dont have torrent on here..
[06:19] <fangorious> Syns: cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/
[06:20] <Syns> i didnt even know about it until i used linux
[06:20] <fangorious> Syns: you can download azureus for winxp
[06:20] <kenny> where did you get your first torrent?
[06:20] <fangorious> Syns: i think bittornado has a windows version too
[06:20] <Syns> bittorrent.com
[06:21] <kenny> hmm...not a good choice...I got the dapper torrent from the offical site...
[06:21] <ba> whats the package to get mp3s work in ubuntu
[06:21] <fangorious> ba: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[06:21] <kenny> ummm...I install ALL the gstreamer plugins that works
[06:21] <drkat> How does ubuntu auto detect graphic settings? is there a package such as sax for linux in general
[06:21] <mebaran151> xresprobe does it
[06:22] <kenny> sax is SuSe right...?
[06:22] <drkat> yeah
[06:22] <kenny> well..for suse
[06:22] <drkat> sax is SuSE's version yes
[06:22] <kenny> ok..I tried SuSe didn't tickle my fancy
[06:22] <drkat> yeah me either
[06:22] <kenny> took to long to download, install, configure.
[06:22] <epp> amphi, openbox is really plain.
[06:22] <kenny> even on my Pentuim4
[06:23] <kenny> pentuim*
[06:23] <kenny> crap
[06:23] <drkat> ok
[06:23] <Syns> kenny, i need to download azureus first though?
[06:23] <drkat> so I'll try xresprobe and manually configure X then
[06:23] <drkat> great thanks
[06:23] <kenny> one sec...I'll see if I can help you syns
[06:23] <amphi> epp: yes
[06:23] <ba> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[06:23] <epp> amphi, kinda hard to use.
[06:24] <crimsun> ba: you need dapper/multiverse enabled.
[06:24] <amphi> epp: not at all - it's easy to configure with keybindings for everything
[06:24] <epp> yeah,
[06:25] <ba> crimsun, you need dapper too?
[06:25] <kenny> my IDE  controler rules.....
[06:25] <crimsun> ba: yes.
[06:25] <ba> why?
[06:25] <kenny> 4 hard drives yes
[06:25] <crimsun> ba: because the package is only in dapper.
[06:25] <fangorious> ba: you using breezy?
[06:25] <dooglus> any idea how to set my locale in dapper?  it seems to have changed from breezy.
[06:25] <ba> fangorious, yes
[06:26] <fangorious> ba: sorry, libmad, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:26] <hobbs> Can anyone confirm whether this (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119108) "make fontconfig stop being horribly broken" patch has been merged in dapper? It certainly doesn't seem that way to me, I seem to be up-to-date and I'm getting the crash, but I want to confirm before filing a bug.
[06:26] <fangorious> ba: that should cover you for more than just mp3
[06:26] <kenny> are you using dapper?
[06:27] <kenny> hobbs. are you using dapper?
[06:27] <fangorious> dooglus: if you find out, let me know. I can't switch mine either, posted on the forum and was told to use System->Administration->Language Selection
[06:27] <fangorious> dooglus: but that didn't seem to be able to generate new locales or change the default
[06:27] <dooglus> fangorious: I tried that, but that's only going to affect X, if anything
[06:27] <hobbs> kenny: yes
[06:28] <kenny> well..again..dappers in alpha so I do suggest you file a bug report.
[06:28] <hatake_kakashi> is there anyway to merge pkgcache.bin, etc?
[06:28] <dooglus> fangorious: the language selection only has "English" anyway - I want British English, not the default American offshoot
[06:30] <hobbs> kenny: alright, just checking. The fix is pretty old and I figured it should have been caught. But this thing's been crashing my konqy for a month now ;)
[06:30] <kenny> I think Im going to develop a new operating system...
[06:30] <Kyral> .....
[06:30] <kenny> hmm...hobbs.....check the ubutn forms
[06:30] <kenny> forums*
[06:30] <epp> is there any way easy to use desktops like fluxbox?
[06:31] <Kyral> epp: yes
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> epp,  hmm.. they are very easy to use now. :P
[06:31] <kenny> yeah...all new file systems, kernals, everything..completly orginal
[06:31] <interferon> do i have to enable some repository to get more bleeding-edge versions of different packages
[06:31] <epp> kyral, like...
[06:31] <Syns> hrm..
[06:31] <Kyral> kenny: we will see you in 10 years :P
[06:31] <jerrod> how do you make Mplayer the default player in mozilla?
[06:31] <Syns> why the heck would i pay for azureus
[06:31] <kenny> naww...I gots a software team.
[06:31] <interferon> kenny, writing an operating system?
[06:31] <Kyral> epp: wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[06:31] <kenny> I've got some code...
[06:31] <epp> kyral, yeah im running fluxbox.
[06:32] <hobbs> kenny: will do after libqt3-mt finishes coming in. Lousy dialup.
[06:32] <epp> where can i ger cool themes.
[06:32] <Kyral> FreshMeat
[06:32] <interferon> epp, art.gnome.org
[06:32] <kenny> goood
[06:32] <Kyral> interferon: not for GNOME
[06:32] <fangorious> any xmodmap wizards representin?
[06:32] <epp> hmmm.
[06:32] <interferon> Kyral, ah you're right
[06:32] <Kyral> epp: or the Fluxbox website
[06:32] <wastrel> epp:  the thing with fluxbox is, it's not a desktop environment, it's just a window manager.
[06:32] <interferon> sorry
[06:32] <epp> yeah...
[06:32] <amphi> !anyone
[06:32] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:33] <epp> wastrel, pros and cons?
[06:33] <wastrel> epp:  so you don't have all the functionality... but you don't have all the bloat either.
[06:33] <mustard5> terracorp, all good?
[06:33] <epp> wastrel, this is true.
[06:33] <terracorp> hy
[06:33] <interferon> ubotu, probably because it feels less rude to preface questions with that
[06:33] <ubotu> interferon: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[06:33] <Kyral> yah you'd need GTK Theme Switch as well
[06:33] <dooglus> fangorious: I found a solution that works for me...
[06:33] <interferon> oh, am i talking to a bot?
[06:33] <fangorious> amphi, because the last two times i asked it nobody replied. ;)
[06:33] <kenny> acully it is going to take a about 10 years to develop a whole operating systyem
[06:33] <terracorp> i still dont see my  hard disck :(
[06:33] <mustard5> terracorp, I'm curious whether an icon appeared this time
[06:33] <fangorious> dooglus: ???
[06:33] <Kyral> interferon: yah :P
[06:33] <dooglus> fangorious: all I wanted to do was get the spell checker working in gaim.
[06:33] <amphi> epp: no hideous icons disfiguring the noble austerity of your root window
[06:33] <terracorp> nope
[06:33] <dooglus> fangorious: I did that like this:    LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8 gaim
[06:33] <terracorp> :((
[06:33] <interferon> Kyral, ohh :)
[06:33] <wastrel> epp:  you can work just fine with just a WM, i did for years.  but you need to learn your way around, and figure out how to do things that are easy with a full on desktop environment.
[06:34] <mustard5> terracorp, use nautilus browser to navigate to /media/windows
[06:34] <jerrod> goodbye all you non-helpers
[06:34] <terracorp> tel me pls the op topic chat
[06:34] <kenny> "non helpers"
[06:34] <hobbs> interferon: but in reality it's just a waste of bits and time :)
[06:34] <dooglus> fangorious: I guess you could "export LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8" in ~/.gnomerc to have it set everywhere
[06:34] <kenny> nnot nice
[06:34] <terracorp> where is nautilius?
[06:34] <mustard5> terracorp, #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <epp> wastrel, yeah. I wish i could have a thing to show my wifi strength.
[06:34] <hatake_kakashi> mustard5: you meant #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:34] <fangorious> dooglus: heh. but that won't generate a new locale, just change the default. i need to generate a new one, and dpkg-reconfigure locales didn't ask me which locales i wanted. it just regenerate the existing ones
[06:34] <amphi> epp: wavemon
[06:35] <mustard5> hatake_kakashi, nope..definitely #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:35] <interferon> ubotu, what do you do?
[06:35] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, interferon
[06:35] <agabus> where can i find a list of mirrors of dapper flight 4 iso's?
[06:35] <dooglus> fangorious: right, for me too; luckily it was already generating the one I wanted (and a bunch I don't want it to, but never mind)
[06:35] <hatake_kakashi> mustard5: heh, nautilus iirc is Gnome application, not KDE
[06:35] <ddonky> how can i access the directories of hdb1, which was my old /home directory under Fedora?
[06:35] <hobbs> epp: for *box? wmwave will do nicely.
[06:35] <kenny> agabus, fromt the ubuntu offical site
[06:36] <mustard5> hatake_kakashi, yeah but that channel is quiet :)
[06:36] <agabus> kenny - umm k i'll check
[06:36] <epp> hobbs, wmwave?
[06:36] <wastrel> epp:  yes, fluxbox supports "windomaker dock apps"  wmwave is one
[06:36] <interferon> ddonky, mount /dev/hdb1 blah
[06:36] <dooglus> agabus: you can find torrents here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/
[06:36] <epp> wastrel, hmmm. this is why i love ubuntu. Everyone helps.
[06:36] <wastrel> epp:  i love me some wm applets.
[06:36] <dooglus> agabus: torrents are faster than mirrors usually
[06:37] <sambagirl> http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/5334/U_S_Government_In_A_Censoring_Spree look at that! my god!
[06:37] <ddonky> interferon, right, got that far... but only root can access them
[06:37] <agabus> dooglus - I need ftp/http at the moment sorry
[06:37] <Kyral> Unless your Campus blocks Torrents
[06:37] <dooglus> agabus: that's there too
[06:37] <kenny> agabus, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/
[06:37] <interferon> ddonky, try mount /dev/hdb1 place -o user (and don't run that as root)
[06:37] <amphi> epp: or run gkrellm in the slit - that has a wifi plugin
[06:37] <hatake_kakashi> mustard5: ahh lol
[06:37] <agabus> kenny - yeah I was looking for a different mirror
[06:37] <stoned> my mic is working, I can hear myself when I talk into it, volume levels in kmix are perfectly good, green lights are on, and they are full.  None of the sound recording apps give me any errors, but I can't seem to get any thing recorded.  Audacity, krecord, krec, etc. nothing will record anything.  just an empty file.  I cant figure it out, pleae help
[06:37] <kenny> O. ok
[06:37] <hobbs> epp: yes, wmwave
[06:37] <sambagirl> comcast has denied me access to even access the site!
[06:38] <dooglus> agabus: there's a list of download sites here http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[06:38] <ddonky> interferon - ok, where 'user' is my new user name?
[06:38] <agabus> dooglus - yeah I'm looking through that now, alot of them seem to only have the official releases and none of the dapper flight releases
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> Is there a possibility to merge multiple pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin into a single pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin?
[06:38] <epp> any other way good wm apletts to have
[06:38] <epp> applets*
[06:38] <wastrel> epp google for dock app warehouse
[06:38] <epp> kk
[06:38] <kenny> well guys..I gotta go...
[06:39] <epp> is there opera in apt?
[06:39] <dooglus> agabus: which country are you in?
[06:39] <agabus> australia
[06:39] <hobbs> epp: I've been using KDE for a few years now, but before that, Blackbox was my #1 choice (this was before fluxbox, openbox, and 37 other "box"es)
[06:39] <epp> yeah, i found fluxbox is very nice.
[06:39] <agabus> dooglus- my ISP has a ubuntu mirror at ftp.iinet.net.au, but i don't believe they have the dapper iso's either
[06:39] <interferon> ddonky, you might actually want "-o uid=1000" where 1000 is your uid (you can get your actual number from the Users & Groups tool)
[06:40] <RasutoIbuki> Hi. I was hoping someone could answer a question for me. If you add a custom repository, and in that repository is a file that has the same version as one from the main ubuntu repositories, which one gets installed?
[06:40] <wastrel> dockapps can be addicitve.
[06:40] <stoned> anyone?
[06:40] <dooglus> agabus: I see what you mean
[06:40] <ddonky> ok
[06:41] <dooglus> agabus: so I guess you have to use the link that kenny and I gave you?
[06:41] <hobbs> I used to keep two different copies of wmbiff running at once
[06:41] <hobbs> To keep track of all of my mailboxes :)
[06:42] <irvin> !info opera
[06:42] <agabus> dooglus - hmm k
[06:42] <Madpilot> iratsu: Opera isn't in the repos, but it's easy to install
[06:42] <Madpilot> !tell irvin about opera
[06:43] <irvin> thanks Madpilot, i was just checking
[06:43] <Madpilot> OK, this is odd - my sound just stopped working, and when I tried to kill & restart esd, I got this error message, "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[06:43] <j1p> I'm having a little trouble installing libmtp(http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp) from CVS, I have to use autoconf, but I'm getting some errors about "possibly undefined macro"'s, I did "aclocal" then "autoconf" is that the right process so far?
[06:43] <fangorious> well, i got my thumb button to go back, now i just need to get my scroll wheel back!
[06:44] <hobbs> j1p: there isn't an autogen.sh in the CVS?
[06:45] <j1p> ooh, i guess there is, do i just run that?
[06:45] <hobbs> j1p: that usually takes care of things for you, yeah
[06:45] <j1p> oh, thanks, i wasnt aware of that
[06:46] <j1p> that gives me an error about unknown command libtoolize, is that in any of the repos, or am I going to have to find it and install it elsewhere?
[06:46] <B_166-ER-X> !libtag
[06:46] <ubotu> B_166-ER-X: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:46] <Madpilot> !info libtoolize
[06:46] <j1p> think i found the answer on the forums, looks like its in libtool package
[06:48] <wastrel> hmm firefox is suddenly opening pdfs for me in-line
[06:49] <fojackedddolt> Just wondering, is there anyway to upgrade to Breezy badger from horay with out getting another CD/ISO?
[06:50] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[06:50] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:50] <Madpilot> fojackedddolt: ^^^
[06:50] <epp> i installed opera but it gives me errors when i try to launch it.
[06:50] <epp> it needs some libraries and im to lazy to install them
[06:50] <fojackedddolt> ohkay, thank you much,
[06:51] <ddonky> ok, so I mounted it with no options to /mnt/two and when i try to cd to the home of the old user i get this:
[06:51] <ddonky> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/OIkvvu17.html
[06:51] <Madpilot> ddonky: you don't need sudo in front of a cd command
[06:51] <wastrel> also cd isn't in sbin
[06:52] <ddonky> Madpilot - ok
[06:52] <ddonky> ok
[06:52] <ddonky> without sudo, i get bash: cd: donpedro: Permission denied
[06:53] <Madpilot> ddonky: then something else is wrong
[06:53] <wastrel> well the directory is drwx-------- and isn't owned by a user on your system
[06:53] <fojackedddolt> ddonkey: whats your problem?
[06:53] <Madpilot> ddonky: "sudo chmod 755 /path/to/whatever"
[06:53] <triablo_> How to fix this: aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:53] <triablo_>  ????
[06:54] <epp> is there a wireless to that show availiable wireless nwetworks?
[06:54] <brenner> triablo_: what are you doing?
[06:54] <ddonky> Madpilot -that's what i thought....this drive that i mounted at /mnt/two is my old /home directory
[06:55] <triablo_> I installed the Radeon fglrx driver,and I need to run the aticonfig
[06:55] <ddonky> what if i created a user with the same name and password?
[06:55] <wastrel> what's aticonfig?
[06:55] <triablo_> but it give me that error
[06:55] <Madpilot> ddonky: sudo chown should work too - just make it owned by your current user, or root
[06:55] <wastrel> ddonky:  i think this is one of the (rare) occasions when chown -R is called for
[06:55] <triablo_> aticonfig-creates the configureation file
[06:56] <Madpilot> wastrel: recursive chown is useful
[06:56] <brenner> triablo_: what instructions did you follow to install?
[06:57] <epp> is there a wireless tool that shows available wireless networks?
[06:57] <wastrel> Madpilot:  yes, but people seem to like using it at the drop of a hat - and break stuff in the process
[06:57] <sasa> yep
[06:57] <epp> hi
[06:57] <wastrel> triablo_:  fglrxconfig  should work
[06:57] <triablo_> the driver it is a  ./fglrx.run
[06:57] <wastrel> ah.
[06:58] <epp> is there a tool that shows available wireless networks?
[06:58] <amphi> epp: iwlist <iface> scan
[06:58] <Draconicus> Where does xscreensaver keep its screensavers?
[06:58] <brenner> triablo_: stop right there.  i recommend you follow this instead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:58] <triablo_> fglrxconfig does'n run anymore
[06:58] <epp> amphi, like a gui.
[06:58] <amphi> epp: no idea
[06:58] <Madpilot> wastrel: true enough
[06:58] <wastrel> Draconicus:  seems to be /usr/lib/xscreensaver/
[06:58] <ba> whats a good webcam software for ubuntu?
[06:58] <epp> that shows like, encryption type... and channel, and SSID.
[07:00] <interferon> are there any tricks to speed up ubuntu's boot time?
[07:00] <zphinx> install sysvconfig
[07:00] <amphi> epp: iwlist does that *shrug*
[07:00] <mikeo1> how do i enable multiverse?
[07:00] <ufo> epp: try kismet
[07:01] <dieKleineMaus1> join /#edubuntu
[07:01] <Sonobana> mikeo1: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:01] <dieKleineMaus1> join #edubuntu
[07:01] <epp> thx
[07:01] <Dasnipa`> after installing kubuntu-desktop how do you make it the default for users? i know it pops up the question window but apparently im still running gnome
[07:01] <Razor-X> Is rt2570 support addable in a compiled kernel?
[07:02] <dieKleineMaus1> hi is here some german people?
[07:03] <Marsmensch> maus: #ubuntu-de
[07:03] <dieKleineMaus1> danke (thanks
[07:03] <Madpilot> !de
[07:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:03] <brenner> Dasnipa`: choose it from the sessions menu at login?
[07:03] <wastrel> Ich habe eine grosse Lampe.
[07:03] <dieKleineMaus1> i don not need help, i like chat *smile*
[07:04] <interferon> zphinx, what is sysvconfig?
[07:04] <dieKleineMaus1> Aha und was machst du mit der?
[07:04] <dieKleineMaus1> *weglach*
[07:04] <zphinx> a tool for confuring the init scripts in /home/init.d/
[07:04] <wastrel> heh i don't speak german, my friend taught me that.
[07:04] <zphinx> configuring*
[07:04] <wastrel> it means "I have a big lamp." if i'm not mistaken
[07:04] <hatake_kakashi> !tell dieKleineMaus1 about de
[07:05] <zphinx> wastrel, he asked what you do with it :P
[07:05] <wastrel> heh.
[07:05] <Marsmensch> zphinx: he's a she
[07:05] <Marsmensch> ;-)
[07:05] <interferon> what's a good package for making graphs (the node-edge kind, not the plotting kind)
[07:05] <fangorious> wastrel's lamp
[07:05] <mikeo1> are there any other sources besides universe and multiverse?
[07:05] <terracorp> peer
[07:06] <zphinx> How do you know? nothing in the name gives it away :P
[07:06] <mikeo1> mplayer is still missing packages in the multiverse
[07:06] <mikeo1> and cant install it
[07:06] <ba> anyone know of a webcam in ubuntu tutorial?
[07:06] <monzie> anybody from ubuntu-cn here?
[07:06] <brenner> interferon: dia maybe?
[07:06] <Madpilot> mikeo1: search Synaptic for mplayer, there are lots of packages
[07:06] <mikeo1> yes
[07:06] <Madpilot> mikeo1: but none of them are called just "mplayer"
[07:06] <wastrel> mikeo1:  did you add universe also?  mplayer probably needs packages from universe
[07:06] <neiras> ba - webcam support is pretty dodgy
[07:06] <mikeo1> and none of them will install,due to missing dependencises
[07:06] <mikeo1> i have universe multiverse after the location
[07:07] <interferon> brenner, i was looking more for something that would generate graphs from a text specification
[07:07] <jumpman> ubunty uses gnome as the default manager...if i wanna use KDE i should just go like "apt-get install kde" ??? that's it??
[07:07] <jumpman> tks for helping
[07:07] <ba> what are the odds there is a gizmo package for linux
[07:07] <ba> i mean ubuntu
[07:07] <jumpman> ubuntu..
[07:07] <brenner> interferon: ah.
[07:07] <wastrel> mikeo1:  just universe & multiverse?
[07:07] <Madpilot> mikeo1: sounds like your sources.list has something wrong with it - pastebin it?
[07:07] <B_166-ER-X> anyone familiar with amarok 1.4 ?
[07:07] <neiras> ba: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam
[07:07] <brenner> jumpman: apt-get kubuntu-desktop would be better
[07:08] <ufo> epp: maybe the kismet its not what you are looking for
[07:08] <interferon> brenner, thanks though
[07:08] <ba> neiras, the deb source no longer exists for that tutorial
[07:08] <drfoz> where does totem look for plugins on dapper? got all the plugins in /usr/lib/win32 but it wont play wmv
[07:08] <brenner> jumpman: and gnome isn't a manager .. it's an environment
[07:08] <mikeo1> join #flood
[07:08] <jetscreamer> usb gizmos
[07:08] <mikeo1> ill paste it
[07:08] <wastrel> not in here pleaes
[07:08] <jumpman> brenner, kubuntu its like a KDE specially for ubuntu?
[07:08] <Madpilot> !tell mikeo1 about pastebin
[07:08] <wastrel> s/es/se/
[07:08] <j1p> I'm having trouble installing libmtp(http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp) from CVS, I run their autogen.sh file, but get an error about AC_CONFIG_HEADER, how it should be AM_CONFIG_HEADER, but still get errors, the errors for both trys are here: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=6241
[07:08] <brenner> interferon: no worries.  i always do stuff the hard way i guess.  what you're doing probably sounds a lot easier
[07:09] <dieKleineMaus1> its boring, noone here who like to chat?
[07:09] <Madpilot> dieKleineMaus1: this is a support channel - try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[07:09] <Flash> How does one rename a folder in Ubuntu 5.14?
[07:09] <brenner> jumpman: yeah sort of.  the important thing is it'll grab all the kde packages you need to get it working.  then you can just choose kde from the sessions menu at login
[07:09] <jumpman> brenner, kubuntu its like a KDE specially for ubuntu?
[07:09] <jumpman> ops.. sorry for that
[07:09] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9161
[07:09] <Pablo> o.O
[07:10] <brenner> jumpman: heh, yeah.  give us a chance to answer :P
[07:10] <jumpman> tks man
[07:10] <jumpman> running apt-get write now
[07:10] <Flash> hello?
[07:10] <joels> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and I'm trying to figure out how to install zlib with apt-get.
[07:11] <wastrel> flash my good man, are you renaming in GUI or command line?
[07:11] <Madpilot> mikeo1: pastebin your sources.list too please
[07:11] <joels> I don't have X11 installed. I don't want to use Synaptic or whatever it's called.
[07:11] <Flash> ?? Let's say GUI.  The desktop looks pretty.
[07:11] <wastrel> joels:  first step is figuring out what the package is named.  apt-cache search zlib   to see packages containing the string "zlib"
[07:11] <zphinx> joels: why on earth use ubuntu then?
[07:12] <Pablo> lol
[07:12] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9162
[07:12] <wastrel> joels:  often grep helps prune the output :] 
[07:12] <joels> I see that :)
[07:12] <Madpilot> Flash: right click on the file, choose "Rename"
[07:12] <joels> zphinx, I don't have X11 installed, it's for a fileserver
[07:12] <wastrel> joels:  then  sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[07:12] <Pablo> where did flash get ubunto 5.14
[07:12] <Pablo> ubuntu*
[07:13] <joels> wastrel, I have that part figured out, it was the search thing that I needed :)
[07:13] <Madpilot> mikeo1: for Dapper, try this sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[07:13] <Flash> Tried that.  When I right click, nothing happens.
[07:13] <wastrel> joels:  it's good to get to know apt-cache.  very useful :] 
[07:13] <joels> it seems that zlibc was what I needed
[07:13] <joels> I've never used a debian-based distribution before, so this apt stuff is new to me
[07:13] <hobbs> joels: not likely
[07:13] <Madpilot> Flash: nothing at all?
[07:14] <Flash> My bad.  I meant to type 5.10.
[07:14] <hobbs> joels: 'zlib1g' is most likely
[07:14] <joels> hobbs, that one's already installed.
[07:14] <joels> configure: error: "no zlib found"
[07:14] <joels>  - I'm just trying to make this go away
[07:14] <hobbs> joels: oh. You're trying to link against it
[07:14] <LinuxNIT> how does ubuntu perform on older cpus? say P1 or P2
[07:14] <Madpilot> Flash: when you rightclick on a file you don't get any rightclick menu at all?
[07:15] <hobbs> joels: zlib1g-dev
[07:15] <regeya> joels, do an apt-ca....thanks, hobbs.
[07:15] <epp> where is a list of the plugins for window manager.
[07:15] <joels> Ah, excellent.
[07:16] <hobbs> joels: when you want to compile something against a given library, you need the version from a package ending in -dev
[07:16] <interferon> brenner, graphviz looks like it does what i need (just in case you need this)
[07:16] <joels> hmm, should I stick '-dev' on the end of eveyrhing i wanna link against?
[07:16] <j1p> I'm having trouble installing libmtp(http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp) from CVS, I run their autogen.sh file, but get an error about AC_CONFIG_HEADER, how it should be AM_CONFIG_HEADER, but still get errors, the errors for both trys are here: http://hashphp.org/pastebin.php?pid=6241
[07:16] <joels> ah, you answered before I asked.
[07:16] <joels> haha
[07:16] <hobbs> joels: usually it's libfoo-dev, but zlib is oh so very ancient and special :)
[07:17] <bhearsum> anyone running software suspend 2.2? i'm having trouble resuming -- i get a "sanity check error"
[07:17] <sethk> j1p, that sounds like you may have conflicting versions of automake - that is, whatever you are building might be expecting an older version of automake.  not sure, but I've seen that message in that situation.
[07:17] <Flash> Ah.  Right click does work.  Thank you.  My mouse was not working so I yanked it for a better one with no right click.  I was doing the control click thing as substitute (Apple)
[07:17] <hobbs> bhearsum: now and then. Usually that means that you booted up a different kernel than the one that you resumed from.
[07:17] <wastrel> bhearsum:  i know a good psychaitrist
[07:17] <joels> wastrel, hobbs, thank you for your help!
[07:17] <hobbs> bhearsum: er, the one that you suspended from
[07:17] <Madpilot> LinuxNIT: basic system specs are mentioned on ubuntu.com
[07:17] <bhearsum> wastrel: haha
[07:17] <bhearsum> hobbs: hmm..i'll look into that
[07:18] <Flash> Now... How does one install a program?  Should I be using Synaptic?
[07:18] <sethk> Flash, yes
[07:19] <LinuxNIT> thanks Madpilot
[07:19] <bhearsum> hobbs: i'm definently resuming on the same kernel
[07:19] <LinuxNIT> ill check them
[07:19] <hobbs> bhearsum: the full details of the sanity check error would be a help. And you may be better of asking someone who works with swsusp rather than here.
[07:19] <benplaut> !repos
[07:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:19] <j1p> sethk, alright, thanks, i have automake 1.4-p6 and autoconf 2.59, this CVS is 2 weeks old at most, would you suggest a different version?
[07:20] <bhearsum> hobbs: i'll see if i can find more details
[07:20] <aaronshaf> What's the name of the eclipse package?
[07:20] <hobbs> j1p: automake 1.4 _is_ an ancient version
[07:20] <Madpilot> Flash: Synaptic or Add Applications (which is at the bottom of the Applications menu
[07:20] <Madpilot> )
[07:21] <bhearsum> hmm
[07:21] <bhearsum> "failed to load the suspend2 compressor filter"
[07:21] <mikeo1> more packages are showing up :D
[07:21] <wastrel> hmm, how do i tell firefox i don't want it to display pdf's for me?
[07:21] <bhearsum> that gives me something to go on
[07:21] <sethk> j1p, no, if it's a two week old thing I would hope they have an up to date version of automake.
[07:21] <bhearsum> hard to read things as they scroll by though, heh
[07:21] <B_166-ER-X> on amarok :  have another error, when i change anything on the ipod, using amarok , it says ' Media device: failed to write iPod database
[07:21] <hobbs> bhearsum: ah, okay. The library that suspend2 is using for compression, most likely LZF, you have compiled as a module
[07:21] <sethk> j1p, if they list any requirements, you could check whether they specify any specific version
[07:21] <hobbs> bhearsum: when you suspend, it's available to be loaded off of disk
[07:21] <sethk> j1p, but if it's new code, I'd say my guess is probably wrong
[07:22] <bhearsum> hobbs: so i should compile it into the kernel?
[07:22] <j1p> sethk, ill try to install automake1.9 that i found in apt-cache search, and try that
[07:22] <hobbs> bhearsum: when you resume, the filesystem doesn't exist yet so it can't load the module, so it can't read its own data :)
[07:22] <benplaut> can someone give me a breezy sources.list, complete with backports?
[07:22] <hobbs> bhearsum: so the easiest solution is to set CONFIG_CRYPTO_LZF to y in the kernel and rebuild
[07:23] <bhearsum> i'll give that a shot
[07:23] <bhearsum> thanks man :)
[07:23] <hobbs> bhearsum: (suspend2 is using lzf for compression unless you did something really weird to it)
[07:23] <rabeldable> anyone know whats wrong with openoffice not printing underline words with the underline sometimes?
[07:23] <rabeldable> is there a bug in oo for breezy?
[07:23] <LinuxNIT> Madpilot, all i saw was ram and HD requirements. what about cpu speed?
[07:23] <LinuxNIT> anything?
[07:25] <wastrel> LinuxNIT:  linux will run on old processors but the default ubuntu install wouldn't perform well
[07:25] <hobbs> LinuxNIT: Assuming you have the RAM and the HD, things pretty much just scale linearly with processor
[07:25] <LinuxNIT> what about ubuntu xfce?
[07:26] <benplaut> ok, easier...
[07:26] <benplaut> where can i get msttcorefonts for dapper?
[07:26] <hobbs> LinuxNIT: if you cut your CPU speed in half you'll be waiting twice as long for things to happen ;)
[07:26] <benplaut> download the breezy version?
[07:26] <LinuxNIT> :)
[07:26] <rabeldable> printing with openoffice is messed up .... it does not print my underlined text
[07:26] <aaronshaf> If apt-get is locked, how do I unlock it?
[07:26] <bhearsum> whoa
[07:26] <LinuxNIT> so like 500 mhz will it do fine on that?
[07:26] <bhearsum> weird text on resume
[07:26] <hobbs> LinuxNIT: it's bearable on a P1-class machine. Not fast, but not as dog-slow as recent windows
[07:26] <wastrel> LinuxNIT:  xubuntu would be better but xfce is still a bit of a resource hog.  a lightweight windowmanager like fluxbox would be better
[07:26] <j1p> aaronshaf, are you using any other updating programs, or using apt-get in another shell?
[07:26] <bhearsum> and its a helluva lot faster than 2.1.99
[07:26] <rabeldable> version 1.9.129
[07:27] <ufaiL8Ch> hi
[07:27] <aaronshaf> I crtl-z'd out of an apt-get process
[07:27] <aaronshaf> and now I can't run it
[07:27] <wastrel> LinuxNIT:  i ran gnome on a 333 celeron for a wile.  you'd be fine on a 500mhz i think, especially with xfce
[07:27] <hobbs> aaronshaf: control-Z doesn't end a process, it's still running
[07:27] <ufaiL8Ch> aaronshaf:  fg
[07:27] <aaronshaf> crtl x or something
[07:27] <hobbs> aaronshaf: either bring it back (fg) or kill it
[07:27] <aaronshaf> ahh
[07:27] <aaronshaf> thanks!
[07:27] <ufo> what do i need to install for compile my own kernel, i installed the source and headers and build-essential?
[07:27] <stoned> hi i have a problem recording thigns with the mic. my mic is working, I can hear myself when I talk into it, volume levels in kmix are perfectly good, green lights are on, and they are full.  None of the sound recording apps give me any errors, but I can't seem to get any thing recorded.  Audacity, krecord, krec, etc. nothing will record anything.  just an empty file.  I cant figure it out, pleae help
[07:27] <LinuxNIT> yeah but this will be on a noobs pc and i dont think fluxbox is good for a noob. unless when it installs on ubuntu its preconfigured nicely
[07:28] <aaronshaf> How do I cleanly get out of a suck apt-get installation?
[07:28] <aaronshaf> nevermind...
[07:28] <aaronshaf> it's working :-)
[07:28] <LinuxNIT> well thanks guys
[07:29] <hobbs> LinuxNIT: I installed the standard GNOMish version on a buddy's machine, he's got a 300-400MHz K6. It's a bit slow, but never unbearable IMO. UI is responsive enough.
[07:29] <rabeldable> any admins on here have an opinion on open office?
[07:29] <hobbs> LinuxNIT: RAM is more important in my book
[07:29] <Madpilot> LinuxNIT: if it's a 500Mhz machine, with a decent amount of RAM it'll be fine
[07:29] <LinuxNIT> ok
[07:30] <LinuxNIT> not sure on cpu (its a friend of a freinds lol) so i just threw 500 out there for a response :) we'll see
[07:30] <LinuxNIT> thanks for the input i appreciate it
[07:30] <stoned> can't anyone help me
[07:30] <Unicorn_Giggles> you guys know how to convert .asx movies to .avi/.mpg ?
[07:31] <stoned> debian assholes won't help me cuz im using ubuntu, over here i can't get any help, i been asking my questions and trying to figure this out on my own for a couple of hours now, someone anyone for the love of god help me!
[07:31] <esac_> anybody use amaroK ? ive got a bunch of files on an SMB share which i have mounted to /home/esac/media/music .. it scans the collection, and i can see it says '1712 tracks' however none of them are in my collection. any ideas ?
[07:31] <hobbs> Unicorn_Giggles: mencoder, transcode, probably even ffmpeg. Hit up google for info, there's _lots_ of it out there
[07:31] <HedgeMage> Unicorn_Giggles: deja vu, someone was just asking me that on another chan...
[07:32] <reka> rabeldable: is it possible it might be your printer's fault? : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26746&highlight=underlined+print
[07:32] <Unicorn_Giggles> yeah, thought of that about 2 secs after I hit Entre, thanx anyway
[07:32] <stoned> esac_, i run mine over an nfs share, i dunno about samba though, it should work with network mounts afaik, try #amarok
[07:32] <hobbs> stoned: Eh. It happens sometimes. Assuming you're using alsa, you might try to troubleshoot it with the folks on #alsa (after hitting up their wiki, http://alsa.opensrc.org)
[07:32] <La_PaRCa> What package contains chdir?
[07:33] <esac_> stoned: already tried #amarok, they have been on an ipod rant for the past hour and are too busy to even acknowledge my question :)
[07:33] <hobbs> La_PaRCa: Assuming you mean cd, the one for your shell. cd isn't a binary, it's a shell builtin.
[07:33] <wastrel> La_PaRCa:  you mean cd ?
[07:33] <hobbs> La_PaRCa: and unlike DOS/windows, chdir isn't an alias for cd. Unless you make it one.
[07:34] <ubuntu_> hey an alle
[07:34] <rabeldable> reka: I'll check that out, but I can print just fine from firefox
[07:34] <La_PaRCa> hobbs, um, cedega from cvs is complaining about chdir
[07:34] <reka> La_PaRCa: build-essential
[07:34] <ba> is there a gizmo package for ubuntu?
[07:35] <wastrel> what's gizmo?
[07:35] <hobbs> La_PaRCa: probably something different. Cedega just breaks a lot ;)
[07:35] <hobbs> ba: At their website, last time I checked.
[07:35] <ba> hobbs, not for ubuntu
[07:36] <j1p> I'm having trouble connecting to archive.ubuntu.com, is it down?
[07:36] <hobbs> ba: The debian package set works fine. Or it did.
[07:36] <aaronshaf> How do I set up dual monitors?
[07:38] <benplaut> aaronshaf: with a really big desk ;)
[07:39] <benplaut> (dunno)
[07:39] <j1p> aaronshaf, you need to set it up in your xorg.conf file
[07:39] <mikeo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9163
[07:39] <aaronshaf> I've added the monitor to the xorg.conf
[07:39] <mikeo1> error...
[07:40] <j1p> aaronshaf, as both a device and in your serverlayout?
[07:40] <rabeldable> i just exported my document to pdf format and opened it with gpdf and it printed perfectly
[07:40] <aaronshaf> not a device
[07:40] <aaronshaf> How do I find out what device I need to add?
[07:41] <brenner> rabeldable: guess it *is* ooo's fault
[07:41] <esac_> anybody running dapper wanna try an experiment? system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts. map something to ALT+LEFTARROW and ALT+RIGHTARROW. pause and say 'oh shit that is back and forward in my browser' click on them and press BACKSPACE to delete the binding... then type something in anyway window and try to just hit the right and left arrow keys and see if they still work
[07:41] <j1p> aaronshaf, paste your relevant parts of xorg.conf in the pastebin
[07:42] <shaji> i have 2 bandwith
[07:42] <hobbs> mikeo1: install gcc?
[07:43] <shaji> i can't conniting local server
[07:43] <shaji> going to outside
[07:43] <rabeldable> its open office problem alright... when does breezy get an updated open office?
[07:43] <aaronshaf> http://pastebin.com/568165
[07:44] <j1p> rabeldable, it won't, you'll have to wait for Dapper
[07:44] <Madpilot> rabeldable: Dapper comes out in mid-April, it'll have a newer OOo (and lots more new toys, too)
[07:44] <brenner> what about backports?
[07:44] <rabeldable> I'm going to remove it and install the latest version from oo.org
[07:45] <Razor-X> Do all Ubuntu kernels use an initrd by default?
[07:45] <j1p> aaronshaf, you're going to need to setup a Screen section for the new monitor, check out this thread on the ubuntu forums, it'll help you out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82109
[07:46] <hobbs> Razor-X: yeah, it's a compatibility thing
[07:46] <aaronshaf> jlp: thanks
[07:48] <Razor-X> hobbs: Ah, thanks.
[07:48] <mikeo1> yeah... actually after i updated my sources.list there were like 80 updates
[07:48] <mikeo1> i think gcc was on the list
[07:48] <Razor-X> hobbs: Lemme see if I don't need an initrd, then ;).
[07:49] <jsestri2> if i installed with acpi=off, how can i enable it again?
[07:50] <hobbs> Razor-X: you can ditch the initrd, but you'll need a new kernel if you want to actually be able to boot :)
[07:50] <wastrel> happy
[07:51] <Razor-X> hobbs: Exactly, my kernel modules are compiling now ;).
[07:51] <brenner> jsestri2: isn't that just a grub option?
[07:52] <j1p> what is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade for apt-get?
[07:52] <hobbs> j1p: dist-upgrade "tries harder" ;)
[07:52] <jsestri2> brenner: i don't know...is it?
[07:53] <jsestri2> brenner: I had to use it in order for it to install properly
[07:53] <brenner> jsestri2: i think so.  open up /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:53] <wastrel> man apt-get   /dist-upgrade   n
[07:53] <j1p> so to do a complete upgrade on a test box from breezy to dapper, after updating my sources.list should i do dist-upgrade or upgrade?
[07:54] <jsestri2> question #2, how do i configure the network, I had to install without the network card enabled, because it wasnt detecting it properly. How would i go about detecting it now that the system is installed?
[07:54] <Madpilot> j1p: dist-upgrade
[07:54] <wastrel> jsestri2:  gnome has a gui network prefs dealy
[07:54] <j1p> thanks Madpilot
[07:55] <jsestri2> jsestri2: hmmm, i'm not sure that it detects the NIC, any ideas how to get it to detect it?
[07:55] <wastrel> jsestri2:  or you could edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:55] <wastrel> oh dear
[07:55] <jsestri2> ?
[07:56] <wastrel> so you don't have a driver running for the nic?
[07:56] <jsestri2> no, it wouldn't detect it on install
[07:56] <jsestri2> this is technically a dapper flight 4 install, so don't worry about it too much
[07:56] <interferon> where should i email my device database tarball if the submission fails?
[07:56] <jsestri2> i was just looking for directions to go in
[07:57] <jsestri2> the other channel is empty
[07:57] <wastrel> welp you'd check out your nic hardware with lspci
[07:57] <wastrel> figure out what kernel module to use for it
[07:57] <wastrel> and modprobe, then configure the interface, assuming modprobe worked
[07:58] <j1p> I have automake1.4 and automake1.9 installed on my system, but automake uses 1.4 by default, how can I change that to make it 1.9?
[07:58] <jsestri2> ok...if i installed with the acpi=off, will they show up?
[07:58] <jsestri2> i'm not positive what acpi=off does...
[07:58] <Razor-X> j1p: There's an envvar you can set, I'm pretty sure, can't remember which, though.
[07:58] <hobbs> jsestri2: disables ACPI ;)
[07:59] <hobbs> jsestri2: and no, that won't make your NIC disappear
[07:59] <jsestri2> hobbs: ok, thanks i'll try that stuff out
[07:59] <hobbs> jsestri2: In fact, on a desktop machine you don't lose anything that's likely to be very important to you
[08:00] <wastrel> heh rebooting
[08:00] <Razor-X> wastrel: Why?
[08:00] <Razor-X> wastrel: You're changing kernels?
[08:00] <wastrel> Razor-X:  i guessed that jsestri2 was rebooting
[08:01] <wastrel> cause he left after talking about getting his nic working
[08:01] <wastrel> Razor-X:  and this machine gets shut down pretty often - laptop.
[08:01] <Razor-X> Ah, my bad.
[08:01] <Razor-X> You shouldn't reboot unless as a last resort.
[08:01] <wastrel> heh
[08:02] <Razor-X> That's a rule of thumb of Linux that is pretty hard to grasp for incoming Windows users.
[08:02] <benplaut> but it still fixes most problems
[08:03] <Razor-X> Well, it's useless.
[08:03] <Razor-X> Why ruin your computer by restarting?
[08:03] <Razor-X> Plus, you can't have mad uptime contests!
[08:04] <benplaut> i have a laptop :P
[08:04] <Razor-X> benplaut: And? :P.
[08:04] <benplaut> and i move around alot with it :P
[08:04] <Razor-X> Our family's laptop never moves, meh
[08:04] <Razor-X> benplaut: Oh! That makes a difference ;).
[08:04] <benplaut> he
[08:05] <hobbs> why'd you get a laptop then? ;)
[08:05] <benplaut> they're cute :)
[08:05] <hobbs> and cost twice as much
[08:05] <Razor-X> hobbs: Because we *can* move it around.
[08:05] <benplaut> but...
[08:05] <Razor-X> It's not often, but we can.
[08:05] <Razor-X> Plus, it's not mine, anyhow.
[08:05] <benplaut> it's so cute!
[08:05] <benplaut> what am i saying...
[08:05] <hobbs> benplaut: no... now a Zaurus, that's cute!
[08:05] <Razor-X> Not my problem if my dad wants to spend money on a laptop, I just hate the horrible excuse for a keyboard.
[08:05] <benplaut> i have a thinkpad :P
[08:06] <Razor-X> Well, anything is a horrible after a Model M ;).
[08:06] <benplaut> hobbs: i have one of those, too :)
[08:06] <hobbs> benplaut: I had one until I sort of accidentally crushed it
[08:06] <mikeo1> what the hell... its saying a restart is strongly recommended after updating
[08:06] <pikes> need help
[08:06] <benplaut> Razor-X: i've got it on a dock, with a model m
[08:06] <benplaut> PWNED
[08:06] <pikes> is it possible for me to link adsl modem to cisco5500 catalyst?
[08:06] <benplaut> mike4263: probably a kernel update
[08:07] <hobbs> pikes: with ethernet, sure... but what do you expect to get out of it, and what in the world does that have to do with ubuntu? :)
[08:07] <Razor-X> benplaut: So?
[08:07] <mikeo1> should i restart?
[08:07] <Razor-X> It's a laptop, it's naturally inferior :P.
[08:07] <benplaut> doesn't matter if it's immediately rebooted, but eventually...
[08:07] <benplaut> har har :P
[08:07] <Razor-X> Laptops are arses to get working with Linux.
[08:07] <mikeo1> guess i will
[08:07] <pikes> sorry hobbs ;P
[08:07] <hobbs> mikeo1: after a dist-upgrade? It's a good idea
[08:07] <mikeo1> ok
[08:07] <benplaut> Razor-X: agreed
[08:08] <benplaut> 5
[08:08] <benplaut> 4
[08:08] <benplaut> 3
[08:08] <benplaut> 2
[08:08] <hobbs> Razor-X: yeah, you have to luck into some really good hardware
[08:08] <benplaut> gone! :)
[08:08] <hobbs> Razor-X: this Dell that I got actually isn't so bad. Though I didn't choose it :)
[08:08] <benplaut> like a thinkpad, for that matter :P
[08:08] <benplaut> thinkpads are almost completely supported
[08:08] <manji> hey, what is ubuntu's current out-of-the-box stance on centrino wireless support?
[08:09] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[08:09] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:09] <benplaut> they are great in linux, except for ATi cards
[08:09] <hobbs> yeah, I would have bought a thinkpad if it was up to me. Still probably will some day if Lenovo doesn't ruin them
[08:09] <benplaut> !centrino
[08:09] <ubotu> benplaut: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:09] <benplaut> bah
[08:09] <hit> can i install dapper in a pc which already had installed ubuntu
[08:09] <benplaut> hobbs: the z60 is horrid... the build quality sucks
[08:09] <benplaut> i'm glad my sysadmin got it, and not me!
[08:10] <hobbs> benplaut: really... lame.
[08:10] <wastrel> mmm
[08:10] <gloin> ergh
[08:10] <wastrel> i love my thinkpad
[08:11] <hit> can i install dapper in a pc which already had installed ubuntu
[08:11] <gloin> dhcp 3 is pissing me off
[08:11] <gloin> is it possible to downgrade?
[08:11] <hobbs> hi Hobbsee. I've probably had this nick longer than you've had yours ;)
[08:11] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:11] <Hobbsee> hobbs: yeah, ok, you have hehe
[08:11] <hobbs> Since OpenProjects and before ;)
[08:12] <gloin> heh
[08:12] <wastrel> i've been using this nick since the mid 90's
[08:12] <Razor-X> I love my Model M ;).
[08:12] <benplaut> Razor-X: what model is yours?
[08:12] <jsestri2> woooot
[08:12] <jsestri2> im a winner
[08:13] <wastrel> t3h w1nn4r R jsestri2
[08:13] <Razor-X> benplaut: 1993.
[08:13] <hobbs> wastrel: I've only bothered with IRC since the late 90s. I'm not as old as most people around ;)
[08:13] <jsestri2> wastrel: thanks...I'm now talking to you from dapper flight 4!
[08:14] <benplaut> Razor-X: no... the model itself
[08:14] <LiteHedded> how do you get dvd burning working in ubuntu?
[08:14] <LiteHedded> my friend can't burn dvds
[08:14] <Razor-X> benplaut: Model M, don't remember the specifics ;).
[08:14] <Razor-X> It's a Blue label one.
[08:14] <benplaut> me too
[08:14] <jsestri2> whats the package with gcc etc.?
[08:15] <wastrel> build-essential
[08:15] <jsestri2> thanks
[08:15] <LiteHedded> how do you get dvd burning working in ubuntu?
[08:16] <jsestri2> maybe google dvd burning linux on google?
[08:16] <LiteHedded> wow I should've known I'd get the RTFM/google response on here
[08:16] <LiteHedded> classy
[08:16] <jetscreamer> check for /dev/dvd
[08:16] <jetscreamer> make sure it points to /dev/hd(yourcdrom)
[08:16] <brenner> LiteHedded: what app are you using?
[08:17] <jetscreamer> run xine-check
[08:17] <nelsmar> anyone know a lil C++? im having a problem im making a program to... execute a program when i press FN F5(my dim screen) im tryng to read /dev/sonypi and take the first char that comes into play and then return the value, though when i tell it ot read /dev/sonypi it just sits and hangs and nothign happens
[08:17] <LiteHedded> he's using gnomebaker I think
[08:17] <LiteHedded> maybe k3b
[08:17] <nelsmar> i dont know about reading files on linux...... well reading dev files
[08:17] <LiteHedded> he can burn cd's not dvds
[08:17] <jsestri2> LiteHedded: i'm not too knowledgeable, so i figured i'd offer that, rather than nothing, since nobody was responding right away
[08:17] <LiteHedded> same drive
[08:18] <LiteHedded> darkfusion is the one with the problem
[08:18] <brenner> nelsmar: #c++ might be better
[08:18] <darkfusion> hello guys
[08:18] <nelsmar> yeah im there 0.o
[08:18] <ufaiL8Ch> hi
[08:18] <darkfusion> yeh so i'm some trouble burning dvds
[08:19] <darkfusion> the disc auto mount and I can play them also
[08:19] <wastrel> nelsmar:  isn't there an x app that captures keycodes?
[08:19] <nelsmar> dunno
[08:19] <nelsmar> be better if it wasnt an xapp but there migh be
[08:19] <nelsmar> and i just need to read sonypi... but it wont evne read the file
[08:20] <nelsmar> it seems lik the code i bassed myn off of worked originaly but now it wontand i ahve re-written it about 50 times from scratch and still no luck
[08:20] <nelsmar> then again .. theirs was flaky it might not have actualy been working
[08:20] <nelsmar> i figured fscanf would hang until a character was availble
[08:20] <LiteHedded> what error do you get darkfusion
[08:20] <wastrel> you probably aren't supplying the proper args to open...
[08:20] <wastrel> dunno been a while since i did any systems programming
[08:21] <hobbs> nelsmar: it looks like the 'rsjog' app might already support what you want
[08:21] <hobbs> nelsmar: the description hints at the ability to bind stuff to Fn-combos
[08:21] <darkfusion> Executing 'mkisofs -V GnomeBaker data cd -p darkfusion -iso-level 3 -l -R -hide-rr-moved -J -joliet-long -gui -graft-points Top Gear - 2004.05.09.avi=/media/x/Top Gear/Top Gear - 2004.05.09.avi Top Gear - 2004.10.24.avi=/media/x/Top Gear/Top Gear - 2004.10.24.avi Top Gear - 2004.11.07.avi=/media/x/Top Gear/Top Gear - 2004.11.07.avi Top Gear - 2004.11.14.avi=/media/x/Top Gear/Top Gear - 2004.11.14.avi Top Gear - 2004.11.21.avi=/media/x/Top
[08:21] <darkfusion> INFO:	UTF-8 character encoding detected by locale settings. Assuming UTF-8 encoded filenames on source filesystem, use -input-charset to override.
[08:21] <darkfusion> /dev/hdc: engaging DVD-R DAO upon user request...
[08:21] <LiteHedded> tried k3b?
[08:21] <darkfusion> crap sry that was long
[08:21] <jsestri2> in alsamixer, what key unmutes?
[08:21] <jsestri2> jsfd
[08:21] <jsestri2> wait
[08:21] <jsestri2> i hear sound
[08:21] <jsestri2> !!!!!
[08:21] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jsestri2
[08:21] <nelsmar> hobs ill look ; / im wanting to just write a simple program but yeah
[08:21] <jsestri2> yeah ubotu you the bot!
[08:21] <rsync> hi i get "/var/run/utmp: no such process" error when i rettach to the screen. Help?
[08:22] <ReWT_> Hi all.
[08:22] <rsync> all file attributes seem right
[08:22] <jsestri2> nelsmar
[08:22] <nelsmar> yes?
[08:22] <jsestri2> nelsmar: getc
[08:22] <nelsmar> kk hold on ill try it
[08:22] <jsestri2> nelsmar: getc and a thread, or ncurses
[08:23] <rsync> screen users had any problems?
[08:23] <darkfusion> /dev/hdc: engaging DVD-R DAO upon user request...
[08:23] <darkfusion> :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=2h/ASC=30h/ACQ=05h] : Wrong medium type
[08:23] <darkfusion> anyway to fix this so I can burn dvds ?
[08:23] <jsestri2> nelsmar: in any case i think you need a thread, (callbacks of some sort) in order to intercept key strokes
[08:23] <LiteHedded> try K3B?
[08:23] <ufaiL8Ch> !ruby
[08:23] <ubotu> from memory, ruby is an object oriented programming/scripting language born in Japan. You can download it at the command line by sudo apt-get install ruby1.6.
[08:23] <darkfusion> did that lite
[08:23] <LiteHedded> =(
[08:23] <hobbs> darkfusion: that's your drive yelling at you, not the software. It's saying that it couldn't finish OPC
[08:23] <ufaiL8Ch> !xev
[08:23] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ufaiL8Ch
[08:23] <rsync> !slackware
[08:23] <ubotu> rsync: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:24] <rsync> lol
[08:24] <rsync> entropy is small
[08:24] <ufaiL8Ch> !dist-upgrade
[08:24] <ubotu> ufaiL8Ch: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:24] <j1p> I'm having some pointer errrors when  trying to make libmtp(http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmtp) my errors are here, i used the autogen.sh file in cvs, then ./configure with no errors, then make with errors here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9164
[08:24] <darkfusion> so drivers or what hobbs
[08:25] <nelsmar> hhmm no such luck, what do you mean a thrad?
[08:25] <jsestri2> nelsmar: this is a programming discussion, move it to a PM?
[08:26] <hit> how to install another dapper from my hard disk ?
[08:26] <nelsmar> sure : )
[08:26] <hobbs> darkfusion: ... no, drive or disc. Or you're just trying to do something stupid like write to a non-blanked RW as though it was an R
[08:26] <hit> help me
[08:26] <jsestri2> hit: i'd guess its not too disimilar from breezy
[08:26] <rsync> any 'screen' users here?
[08:27] <rsync> wonder if anyone had any problems with screen
[08:27] <hit> jsestri2: i think so ,but it quit trouble
[08:27] <hit> jsestri2:  installer seems can not find the dapper*.iso
[08:28] <ReWT_> Whats everyones favorite UBUNTU?
[08:28] <ReWT_> K, Edu, Ubun, Breezy, Dapp, Hoary
[08:28] <ReWT_> I'm curious.
[08:29] <hit> i only use breezy
[08:29] <jsestri2> hit: sorry, i just barely got it installed from th cd
[08:29] <jsestri2> hit: whats wrong with from cd?
[08:29] <j1p> ReWT_, I like Kubuntu, and unless you want to possibly break your system, go with Breezy
[08:29] <Razor-X> I have no favorite, the repos are good enough for me ;).
[08:30] <hit> jsestri2: i do not hava a dapper cd
[08:30] <hobbs> Kubuntu, and dapper live from the 'net on any week it isn't broken :)
[08:30] <Razor-X> I wish I was physically in front of the system now.. :\.
[08:30] <Razor-X> Ah well, the modules are being installed, now. Then I'll compile an initrd and hope for the best ;).
[08:30] <ReWT_> j1p, how would Breezy break it?
[08:30] <ReWT_> You a KDE guy, j1p
[08:30] <hit> jsestri2:  and i am not quit sure i use the correct version of vmlinuz or initrd.gz
[08:31] <j1p> ReWT_, Breezy won't break it, but Dapper is still in testing so I would advise against it
[08:31] <j1p> I do like KDE more than other Desktop Environments, although I like fluxbox and similar environments as well
[08:32] <Dark_Oppressor> ok, ive got ubuntu all set up, and now id like to program in C++ on it, and i would also like to start learning how to use SDL
[08:32] <ReWT_> I lean more towards flux.
[08:32] <Dark_Oppressor> whats a good IDE to use?
[08:32] <ReWT_> I started with BB in windows b4 I got into Linux.
[08:32] <LiteHedded> installing gnomebaker on my Kubuntu machine wont break it right?
[08:33] <LiteHedded> blank stares eh?
[08:33] <hobbs> Dark_Oppressor: pfft. IDE. vim! :)
[08:34] <Dark_Oppressor> :O
[08:34] <hobbs> LiteHedded: of course not. It's just likely to bring in a mess of dependencies.
[08:34] <sys-admin> hi
[08:34] <Madpilot> LiteHedded: no, it won't, you'll just have to get the GTK libraries, that's all
[08:34] <LiteHedded> ok cool
[08:34] <Madpilot> LiteHedded: but why not use k3b?
[08:34] <LiteHedded> I do
[08:34] <sys-admin> what can i install to have a C compiler that works when compiling all C files
[08:34] <dna_one> Hallo
[08:34] <LiteHedded> just wanna try it out
[08:35] <j1p> is there any way to install gcc3.2 from a repo on breezy?
[08:35] <Madpilot> !b-e
[08:35] <ubotu> b-e is, like, totally, no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[08:35] <jsestri2> hit: is there something wrong iwth downloading the cd?
[08:35] <Madpilot> sys-admin: build-essential - see the bot's comment above ^^^
[08:35] <sys-admin> thank you
[08:35] <hit> jsestri2:  no
[08:35] <ReWT_> Mindcontrol, eh, why pick a name like this?
[08:35] <sys-admin> I am on my way!
[08:36] <hobbs> Madpilot: ... and the 372 other object libraries that GNOME apps require ;)
[08:37] <fojackedddolt> hey, can someone tell me how to get the codecs or whatever to watch videos?
[08:37] <hit> jsestri2:  the install can find the iso
[08:37] <ReWT_> So what's really the difference in Gnome and KDE?
[08:37] <hit> jsestri2:  right?
[08:37] <hit> jsestri2:  automatically
[08:37] <RancidLM> hey all is there a way to get ubuntu to upgrade and utilize the cool features that the new xorg has.. like shadowed windows.. and transperncy's?
[08:38] <hobbs> ReWT_: What's the difference between Dr. Pepper and Mr. Pibb? Different vendors, one has a bit more cherry flavor in it, and you can only get it in the south.
[08:38] <sys-admin> what do you guys use ubuntu as?
[08:38] <ReWT_> hobbs, That's the truth lmao.
[08:38] <ReWT_> sys-admin, my computer OS.
[08:38] <ReWT_> :-P
[08:38] <revmoo> has anyone played around with flight 4 yet?
[08:38] <sys-admin> ReWT_ : greatz.
[08:39] <fojackedddolt> why wont my video players play videos?
[08:39] <ReWT_> sys-admin, you?
[08:39] <Madpilot> fojackedddolt: which formats are you trying to play?
[08:39] <hobbs> fojackedddolt: it's a feature!
[08:39] <ReWT_> RancidLM, if you figure it out, tell me.
[08:39] <exxpert> !xvid
[08:39] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, exxpert
[08:39] <j1p> is there any way to install gcc3.2 from a repo on breezy?
[08:39] <RancidLM> ReWT_: willdo
[08:39] <fojackedddolt> mpg
[08:39] <ReWT_> RancidLM, thanks.
[08:39] <hobbs> RancidLM: hardly anyone actually has that stuff working. Mostly because it only works on two pieces of hardware in a lab somewhere.
[08:40] <ReWT_> hobbs, Dapper runs on the new Xorg if Im not mistaken?
[08:40] <jsestri2> hit: I'm not completely sure....
[08:40] <sys-admin> any idea where i can get an old PII computer that can run ubuntu at less than $20?
[08:41] <hobbs> ReWT_: sure, that doesn't mean you're likely to get any use out of fancy compositing stuff though :)
[08:41] <j1p> why is gcc-3.2 not included on any of the Ubuntu repos?
[08:41] <ReWT_> sys-admin, from me :-P
[08:41] <exxpert> how did i trigger to get the repsos for dapper??
[08:41] <ReWT_> sys-admin, where ya from?
[08:41] <RancidLM> hobbs: its a shame it would be nice to get some desktop effects that utilize the video cards
[08:41] <jsestri2> hit: i don't know how it would detect it automatically...did you look into how breezy does it?
[08:41] <RancidLM> is dapper only a kubuntu release?
[08:41] <hit> jsestri2:  but the breezy installer find the correct iso itself
[08:41] <jsestri2> hit: plan b) ask a friend to burn that iso for you...if you dont have a cd burner somehow....
[08:41] <jsestri2> hit: there are plenty of free ones out there
[08:42] <exxpert> !dapper
[08:42] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[08:43] <hit> jsestri2:  i give up
[08:43] <hobbs> RancidLM: but the driver support isn't there to drive any but a _very_ few cards at speeds where you would _want_ to use compositing tricks.
[08:43] <sys-admin> configure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent
[08:43] <sys-admin> What is that?
[08:43] <hobbs> RancidLM: on most hardware turning that stuff on just makes it so you have to wait a few seconds to see the letters you're typing :)
[08:44] <sys-admin> ReWT_: SINGAPORE
[08:44] <sys-admin> you do have one for sale?
[08:44] <sys-admin> i need an old computer that i can use as a server for home usage.
[08:44] <hit> jsestri2:  i even can not find a definite vmlinuz for the dapper to install from hd
[08:44] <ReWT_> sys-admin, I do, but I'm in US
[08:44] <sys-admin> that is sad.
[08:44] <sys-admin> Do you have a URL ?
[08:45] <sys-admin> seriously, i am thinking of building one myself if i can't find a deal.
[08:45] <sys-admin> E: Couldn't find package setupterm (anybody knows what is wrong?)
[08:45] <hobbs> sys-admin: ... it's not a package ;)
[08:45] <benplaut> is there a way to get opera working in dapper?
[08:45] <sys-admin> hobbs: how can i fix it?
[08:45] <jsestri2> hit: why not burn it?
[08:45] <hit> who have installed dapper from hd completely?
[08:46] <ssstormy> is dapper officially out now?
[08:46] <jsestri2> no
[08:46] <jsestri2> its still alpha
[08:46] <ssstormy> when's the release date?
[08:46] <exxpert> what was the adress of the dapper repositorys?
[08:46] <jsestri2> april somethin
[08:46] <jsestri2> !repo
[08:46] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jsestri2
[08:46] <hobbs> ssstormy: read back about 20 lines ;)
[08:46] <jsestri2> !repositories
[08:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:46] <hit> jsestri2:  too troublesome
[08:46] <ssstormy> hobbs, oh ok sorry
[08:46] <sys-admin> actually ,  configure: WARNING: cannot find setupterm - trying tgetent
[08:46] <jsestri2> hit: lol, its a 5cent cd and about 5  minutes of burn time
[08:47] <exxpert> thaaanks..
[08:47] <jsestri2> hit: you laptop or something?
[08:47] <ssstormy> oh man htat's like 2 months away
[08:47] <hit> jsestri2:  just a pc
[08:47] <hobbs> sys-admin: it probably wants ncurses
[08:47] <sys-admin> how to get setupterm and tgetent in my ubuntu
[08:47] <sys-admin> oh hobbs
[08:47] <hobbs> sys-admin: and it's too stupid to tell you
[08:47] <sys-admin> then how can i install it
[08:47] <sys-admin> sorry i am a noob
[08:47] <hit> jsestri2:  but do not have cd-writer in it
[08:47] <RancidLM> hey qick question peeps.. i just re-installed on a new hd and backed up my old home... but after the install after i do a ctrl+alt+backspace.. i goto the console where as in the past it kicked me back to GDM.. any one know how to enable that functionality again?
[08:48] <hit> jsestri2:  cd-burner
[08:49] <ssstormy> RancidLM, I don't know how to FIX that, but you can just run "gdm" from te terminal
[08:49] <RancidLM> ssstormy: cool thnx :)
[08:50] <hit> i wonder if i upgrade my kernel from i686 to k7 is safe ?
[08:50] <hobbs> hit: depends? Do you have an Athlon/Duron/Sempron?
[08:50] <hobbs> hit: "upgrade" is a misnomer
[08:50] <hit> hobbs:  sure
[08:50] <jetscreamer> lol
[08:50] <exxpert> !easysource
[08:50] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:51] <jetscreamer> -686 is for intel, -k7 is for amd
[08:51] <jetscreamer> so NO
[08:51] <jetscreamer> -386 > k7 maybe, if you have an amd
[08:51] <hit> hobbs:  yes , but it is the best way i know to describe for me
[08:51] <Razor-X> I got rid of that useless AMD stuff in the kernel.
[08:52] <Razor-X> :P.
[08:52] <jetscreamer> i got rid of that intel crap :)
[08:52] <sys-admin> seriously, still cant solve that f prob.
[08:52] <Razor-X> Too many things in the kernel about AMD enabled by default, oh well.
[08:52] <hit> hobbs:  then which word i should use ?
[08:52] <Razor-X> Lots of stuff about Intel too.
[08:52] <jetscreamer> y or m though
[08:53] <hobbs> hit: ... change ;)
[08:53] <sys-admin> solved.
[08:53] <sys-admin> Whee!
[08:53] <jetscreamer> modules shouldn't get loaded, but are available
[08:53] <hit> hobbs:  so eazy , i got it
[08:53] <jetscreamer> takes too long to compile with useless modules though
[08:53] <Razor-X> jetscreamer: I removed them.
[08:53] <Razor-X> They're compiled in, by default.
[08:54] <jetscreamer> the modules are compiled. compiled in? (i hope not, never examined an ubuntu kernel though)
[08:54] <jetscreamer> y vs m
[08:54] <jetscreamer> vs n
[08:54] <win[X] amp> i need help
[08:54] <win[X] amp> i forgot my pass
[08:54] <jetscreamer> heh
[08:54] <win[X] amp> what i suppose to do
[08:55] <jetscreamer> well kinda hard to log in as root eh
[08:55] <hit> hobbs:  please tell me if it is safe ?
[08:55] <jetscreamer> hit: do you have amd or intel
[08:55] <Razor-X> jetscreamer: It's a good exercises.
[08:55] <Razor-X> *exercise.
[08:55] <Madpilot> win[X] amp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LostPassword
[08:55] <win[X] amp> how
[08:55] <jetscreamer> there ya go
[08:56] <hit> jetscreamer: amd  athlon
[08:56] <jetscreamer> hit: k7 'should' be ok,
[08:56] <Madpilot> jetscreamer: the recovery mode in Ubuntu works...
[08:56] <jetscreamer> see also udev
[08:57] <hit> jetscreamer:  yes , but when i change it in debian ,lots of problems  happend
[08:57] <hit> jetscreamer:  i scared
[08:58] <hobbs> well then why are you asking stupid questions? ;)
[08:58] <Madpilot> hit: I've got an AMD XP CPU, and I switched over to the k7 kernel with no problems
[08:58] <jetscreamer> hit: don't change then
[08:58] <jetscreamer> hit: but you can always boot with the old kernel
[08:58] <jetscreamer> if you do install it
[08:59] <jetscreamer> hit: the change/problems is/are the udev-hell
[08:59] <jetscreamer> in debian
[09:00] <hit> jetscreamer:  hard to choose
[09:00] <jetscreamer> hit: keep the -386 kernel available , don't uninstall it, if you do try a k7
[09:00] <jetscreamer> and you'll be ok. i haven't seen many ppl complaining about udev with ubuntu so me personaly, i'd go for it, but i could fix it.
[09:00] <hit> jetscreamer:  ok
[09:01] <_alex> hi friends
[09:01] <jetscreamer> heh. my last fix was to low-level format the hd
[09:02] <hit> hoho
[09:02] <Quinch> Can someone explain something to me? It's less of a problem, though, and more of a "what the f*** did I do back there" kind of question.
[09:03] <hit> jetscreamer:  you just apt-get install *-k7 ?
[09:04] <jetscreamer> uh... i'd not use wildcards, but yeah, apt-cache search linux-image or so, pick one, then apt-get install it
[09:04] <hit> jetscreamer:  i used to do the same in debian , and problems follows
[09:04] <wastrel> l8r
[09:04] <j1p> ls
[09:05] <hit> jetscreamer:  ok  , i will hava a try
[09:05] <jetscreamer> !tell intelikey -about root
[09:05] <_alex> hi friends...how to sharing adsl with another pc of the lan??
[09:05] <intelikey> jetscreamer pardon
[09:05] <jetscreamer> bridging is the word you want maybe
[09:06] <jetscreamer> bridge-ing?
[09:08] <jsestri2> where can i grab mp3 decoders for totem?
[09:08] <jsestri2> !totem
[09:08] <ubotu> jsestri2: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:09] <intelikey> !restricted formats
[09:09] <ubotu> hmm... restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:09] <jetscreamer> !w32codecs
[09:09] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:09] <hit> w32codecs
[09:09] <intelikey> jsestri2 also see vlc
[09:09] <intelikey> !vlc
[09:09] <ubotu> well, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[09:11] <intelikey> although i think vlc still needs a little polishing
[09:11] <mohkohn> Hello. I just installed ubuntu. I have windows on hda1, FreeBSD on hda2, swap hda3, Ubuntu Root hda5, SUSE 10 hda6, and Ubuntu /Home on hda7.
[09:12] <intelikey> ok that's nice.....   can we help you with something now ?
[09:13] <mohkohn> When I tried to login to Ubuntu I get an error message saying I need to change my user to me. and that the $HOME/.dmrc should be 644
[09:14] <mohkohn> So I opened a shell did sudo chown username .dmrc
[09:14] <mohkohn> and sudo chmod 644 .dmrc
[09:14] <mohkohn> exited and tried again and got the same error.
[09:15] <nathaniel> Hello, is there any easy way to make all of the files and sub folders for a particular folder accessable on my normal user login?
[09:15] <mohkohn> Is there a way to fix this? Could it be an /etc/fstab problem also?
[09:16] <Quinch> How do I delete files in Nautilus? Not just move to trash, but delete.
[09:16] <selinium> HI all, I am havong trouble installing realplayer. I have done as requested but mplayer still tries to play the feed.
[09:16] <mohkohn> My /fstab: /dev/hda7       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[09:17] <sethk> mohkohn, has nothing to do with fstab
[09:17] <intelikey> ls -l && echo $UID     mohkohn and make suer you have correct uid on home
[09:17] <sethk> mohkohn, when you do the sudo command, you are not in your home directory
[09:17] <Marsmensch> mohkohn: try chohn -R and chmod -R
[09:17] <sethk> mohkohn, so the file doesn't really change
[09:18] <nelsmar> im goign crazy tryng to find a way to bind FN+F5 to .... smartdimmer -d
[09:19] <nathaniel> is there a way to bind keys to have a run command like in windows "windows key + R"
[09:19] <intelikey> Quinch there used to be an option in  menu . edit . preferances     or what ever it's called.
[09:19] <nelsmar> nathaniel im tryng to do the same frikkin thing lol
[09:20] <nelsmar> was writing a program for it but im having problem reading /dev files
[09:20] <Quinch> Intelikey: Got it, thanks.
[09:20] <nathaniel> nelsmar: I've tried using xbindkey but I don't know exactly how to get it to work
[09:20] <nelsmar> maybe ill looka t that lol
[09:20] <mohkohn> sethk: thanks will give that a try
[09:20] <nathaniel> apt-get install xbindkey and xbindkey-config
[09:21] <mohkohn> thanks also Marsmensch
[09:21] <nelsmar> *typs*
[09:21] <nathaniel> nelsmar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560&highlight=%22Windows+key%22 try that site....some simple instructions
[09:22] <nelsmar> tryng to use /dev/sonypi though thats another part
[09:22] <nelsmar> ; /
[09:24] <nathaniel> nelsmar: xbindkeys sorry, I typed xbindkey
[09:24] <nelsmar> yeah noticed lol
[09:24] <nelsmar> instalin now
[09:24] <nathaniel> lemmie know if you get anything working with it
[09:25] <nelsmar> it is closing....
[09:25] <calyth> is there an entry for gcc in /etc/alternatives? I had to install gcc-3.4 and somehow it does not automatically do a symlink like just apt-get install gcc does
[09:25] <CyberMad> does anyone here ever install freeradius at ubuntu?
[09:25] <CyberMad> i would like to know does using apt-get install freeradius-mysql already supported with rlm_sqlcounter ?
[09:27] <nelsmar> hhmm how to make this work with sonypi
[09:29] <intelikey> !b-e
[09:29] <ubotu> rumour has it, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[09:29] <nelsmar> ; /
[09:29] <intelikey> calyth ^
[09:31] <calyth> thanks
[09:32] <exxpert> i have just downloaded skype frpm their homepage and i now got a skype.deb file in my homefolder,, how in world do i get it to install!!?? n00b:-S
[09:33] <intelikey> the command is    sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[09:35] <exxpert> o damn,, alots of more files to get before..:-S
[09:35] <Sp4rKy> hi
[09:35] <Sp4rKy> i'm trying install e17, but i've an making issue of the evas lib
[09:35] <intelikey> :)
[09:35] <Sp4rKy> anyone could help me ?
[09:36] <intelikey> what error ?
[09:37] <Sp4rKy> i'm retrying
[09:38] <Sp4rKy> i post you the error in 2min
[09:38] <Sp4rKy> when it 'll have crash
[09:38] <selinium> exxpert: download the ubuntu deb for skype at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. Then sudo dpkg -i /path/to/dab
[09:38] <Sp4rKy> oohhh
[09:38] <Sp4rKy> the make is finished
[09:38] <Sp4rKy> i'd download the source yesterday
[09:38] <flogiston> hi.
[09:38] <Sp4rKy> and trying with new download today
[09:39] <selinium> HI all, I am havong trouble installing realplayer. I have done as requested but mplayer still tries to play the feed.
[09:39] <flogiston> Can I make a symlink in/usr/bin to a game binary t bo able to run the game by typing tha gamename?
[09:39] <bigfoot1> hi guys. every week a certain website offers a "free audio download of the week". is there a way i can automate downolading the file?
[09:39] <exxpert> selinium: okai will try that..
[09:40] <flogiston> Like /usr/bin/game -> /path-to/game and just type game to start it?
[09:40] <Pygi> anyone might know why gconf-sharp doesn't build when building gtk-sharp2
[09:40] <Pygi> ?
[09:41] <selinium> exxpert, if you have trouble downloading it, use on of the mirrors listed.
[09:41] <flogiston> Or do i have to make an script in /usr/bin that points to the game binary?
[09:41] <nelsmar> still twitching on this shit
[09:41] <nelsmar> :(
[09:41] <selinium> exxpert before installing it do a    sudo dpkg -P skype
[09:42] <exxpert> selinium: what do that -P do?
[09:42] <selinium> exxpert, Purge
[09:46] <elkbuntu> well that was certainly weird
[09:46] <elkbuntu> dapper breakage fun, sorta
[09:47] <selinium> nelsmar, Whatch your language please! :)
[09:47] <nathaniel> nelsmar: system --> preference --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:47] <ssstormy> selinium, in synaptic there are "remove" and "remove with config"
[09:48] <ssstormy> how do you do those two from the command line with dpkg?
[09:48] <nathaniel> you can use that to set some key assignments, but it won't let you use a win key + "key" assignement
[09:48] <bigfoot1> is ubuntuforum.org's search syntax the same as google?
[09:48] <selinium> ssstormy, -P purge (inc config)   -R remove (exc config)
[09:49] <ssstormy> selinium, that makes sense, but both are listed in the same line in "dpkg --help"..?
[09:49] <selinium> ssstormy, sorry -r Remove (exc config)
[09:50] <selinium> ssstormy, yes but they are different flags
[09:50] <selinium> ssstormy, the coder was trying to save space it looks like! :)
[09:50] <ubuntuuser> quick Q: is it possible to change refresh rate from 60hz w/ the livecd?
[09:51] <ubuntuuser> (w/o editing xorg conf file, using the auto-detected voodoo3 drivers)
[09:51] <intelikey> yeah, change the config and restartx
[09:51] <ubuntuuser> :|
[09:52] <ubuntuuser> does restarting x kill any apps you have openm
[09:52] <intelikey> timming is everything there isn't it.....
[09:52] <intelikey> yes all
[09:52] <ssstormy> ubuntuuser, yeah
[09:52] <ubuntuuser> hehe
[09:52] <elkbuntu> did someone make a dapper channel the other day or did i just dream that?
[09:52] <ssstormy> ubuntuuser, they loose the connection to localhost:0.0 and close
[09:52] <intelikey> or should i specify all that are open in x
[09:52] <ssstormy> elkbuntu, supposedly there is one at #ubuntu+1
[09:53] <ReWT_> what's a fun channel to be in for a good laugh?
[09:53] <ubuntuuser> ya cool
[09:53] <ssstormy> ReWT_, #goodlaugh
[09:53] <ubuntuuser> just testing the livecd on this box for hwcompatibility reasons
[09:53] <elkbuntu> ah so there is, thanks ssstormy
[09:54] <ReWT_> elkbuntu, it was a joke.
[09:54] <elkbuntu> there's peep in there
[09:54] <ReWT_> Yea, me ans ssstoy
[09:54] <Nameeater> I have my fat32 partition as: /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     vfat    defaults        0       0    in my fstab file, what do I need to add to make it writeable?
[09:54] <jetscreamer> umask=000 Nameeater
[09:55] <intelikey> defaults,umask=0
[09:55] <Nameeater> cheers :)
[09:55] <jetscreamer> see also man mount, search fmask & dmask
[09:55] <intelikey> yeah and quiet
[09:58] <cute_bettong> can someone tell me 2 things? 1: is dapper ready for use in a day to day enviroment? and 2: is there a live cd of it i can test?
[09:58] <intelikey> hehhe   borked ls   no worry    echo *    :)
[09:59] <jetscreamer> 1 no 2 yes
[09:59] <jetscreamer> 3 i don't know
[09:59] <Madpilot> cute_bettong: there are LiveCDs
[09:59] <intelikey> cute_bettong dapper is schedualed for release  5 2006
[09:59] <Madpilot> !dapper
[09:59] <ubotu> dapper is, like, totally, the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[09:59] <cute_bettong> is there a ling Madpilot?
[09:59] <cute_bettong> thats not bad
[09:59] <Madpilot> !flight4
[09:59] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[09:59] <cute_bettong> sorry i am an ubuntu addict XD
[09:59] <intelikey> err ooops 4  not 5    typo
[09:59] <Madpilot> cute_bettong: see the wiki link ^^^ for links to the Flight4 ISOs
[10:00] <Madpilot> I torrented the Flight4 LiveCD & tried it out last night, it's pretty cool
[10:00] <Madpilot> Dapper is going to be blazing fast - even the LiveCD was almost as fast on this machine as my Breezy install!
[10:01] <cute_bettong> O_o
[10:01] <cute_bettong> holy~
[10:01] <cute_bettong> !
[10:01] <ubotu> cute_bettong: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:01] <cute_bettong> lol
[10:01] <elkbuntu> yeah the loadup now is minimal compared to breezy
[10:01] <elkbuntu> madpilot, do you have xfce installed alongside gnome atm?
[10:02] <cute_bettong> i can't wait to get my hands on it
[10:02] <Madpilot> elkbuntu: nope, never have had
[10:02] <elkbuntu> then you're not gunna be much help
[10:02] <cute_bettong> i am going to download both the live and the install to test on a spare box i have
[10:02] <Madpilot> cute_bettong: give the LiveCD a shot, it seems pretty stable
[10:02] <cute_bettong> yea am downloading it now
[10:03] <cute_bettong> i remember when breezy came out and i got overzelous >.<
[10:03] <cute_bettong> was a really bad thing lol
[10:03] <cute_bettong> so no i just get content with testing it ^_^
[10:04] <cute_bettong> i just saw this website with what i think are fake install pics lol
[10:04] <intelikey> Madpilot what besides eye candy has really changed in the last year ?    i know support for new hardware, but aside from that is there any major change in the base system  or the default x system ?
[10:04] <cute_bettong> unless they really did take the state of michigan outta the timezones settings
[10:04] <selinium> exxpert, type skype & in a term
[10:05] <cute_bettong> which i hope they dident
[10:05] <elkbuntu> cute_bettong, they took all aussie cities out, i had such fun installing
[10:05] <elkbuntu> cute_bettong, but that sorta thing is only temporary i believe
[10:06] <cute_bettong> i hope so places like michigan have 2 timezones >.<
[10:06] <cute_bettong> eastern and central
[10:06] <exxpert> selinium: i got it to start and have logged in,, but how to get to work with my mic and all that..hmm.. tricky..
[10:06] <Madpilot> intelikey: the installer & LiveCD starters are much slicker
[10:07] <cute_bettong> i wonder how this will effect gameing
[10:07] <selinium> exxpert type echo123 into the call area. It will start an automated conversation to test audio
[10:07] <Sp4rKy> anyone has a good link to an e17 installation tutorial ?
[10:07] <intelikey> with or without trying every driver in the source?    (installed reboots i mean)
[10:07] <cute_bettong> i use my ubuntu box for all my games ^_^
[10:07] <elkbuntu> cute_bettong, better support.. it's not likely to go back
[10:07] <cute_bettong> sweet
[10:07] <elkbuntu> cute_bettong, but you gotta remember, although support might be better, that will be -after- the bugs squished
[10:08] <cute_bettong> thats one thing i love about ubuntu it dosen't care that i have only 32mb ram on my video card it still plays cs and neverwinter nights quite good ^_^
[10:08] <intelikey> Madpilot oh you are talking about the installer cd and live cd startup ?   i misread.   was think installed startup and live startup.....
[10:08] <cute_bettong> yea i won't be useing dapper for about a month after it comes out
[10:08] <cute_bettong> i remember my nightmares with breezy lol
[10:08] <selinium> cute_bettong, try www.eternal_lands.com a free mmorpg :)
[10:09] <exxpert> selinium: "problem with sound device"
[10:09] <mandavi> hi, can someone tell me what is "/usr/lib/gamin/gam_server" ? it takes more than 300MB virtual memory...
[10:09] <cute_bettong> hmm
[10:09] <cute_bettong> it's an unknown host
[10:09] <selinium> exxpert, ok the problem with skype is you only get one shot at it, you will need to stop and start skype
[10:09] <cute_bettong> i just wish i had known about ubuntu sooner than i did
[10:10] <selinium> cute_bettong, sorry www.eternal-lands.com
[10:10] <Madpilot> intelikey: startup of the LiveCD is far faster, and the interface is easier & nicer looking. You can install off a liveCD too, right from the LiveCD's desktop
[10:10] <cute_bettong> but sence last april i have been windows free XD
[10:10] <selinium> exxpert, pkill skype && skype &      in a term
[10:10] <intelikey> that's an improvement....  o,O
[10:10] <cute_bettong> wow that game seems to have good graphics lol
[10:11] <cute_bettong> a freind of mine says linux dosen't exist O_o i told him to stop useing google then,
[10:11] <selinium> cute_bettong, I have lost about a week of my life already.....
[10:11] <cute_bettong> ha ha
[10:11] <cute_bettong> i did that with postal2 share the pain
[10:12] <cute_bettong> i tell you that game is better than an anger management class lol
[10:12] <intelikey> Madpilot will the live still load in 128m ram ?
[10:12] <selinium> cute_bettong, lol, Google are looking to create there own Ubuntu variant called Goobuntu. Seriously! Free OS for all. Another nail in the windoze coffin.
[10:12] <j1p> By the way, if any of you guys use mp3 players that use MS MTP to transfer files, I finally installed a semi-working command-line way to transfer files on them
[10:12] <Swiff> I have this error message when I start mplayer in ubuntu breezy badger; I installed it from the gui application installer. the error message is: New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).   // did it say my face looks ugly thats rude! hahaha any idea how to fix this error? lol
[10:12] <cute_bettong> YES! i herd the rumors but thought it was FUD
[10:13] <Swiff> no wait
[10:13] <cute_bettong> i don't think i will use anything other than ubuntu it has always been able to do anything i through at it
[10:13] <Swiff> I did some coding probly
[10:13] <cute_bettong> i only wish it could play one game but thats not gonna happen
[10:13] <Swiff> sudo agt-get install mplayer or somethin
[10:13] <exxpert> selinium: "device already in use" it says in the term... when i try to call someone..
[10:14] <cute_bettong> but other than that it's an awesome os ^_^
[10:14] <ufo> anyone know why amule cant connect to servers
[10:14] <Swiff> but I want to fix this annoying error
[10:14] <selinium> cute_bettong, have a look at the 'In The Press' panel on the Fridge  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[10:15] <cute_bettong> sudo rm -r <application> that should take care of your error (really don't do this i just woke up and am being a smartakk)
[10:15] <selinium> exxpert Tools/Options/headsets have look around in this panel and see what you can find...
[10:17] <bigfoot1> hello. there's streaming radio audio I'd like to play in rythymbox. i downloaded a .pls file. This pls flie can work in beep media player. But how can i make it work in rythymbox?
[10:17] <selinium> Swiff, sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[10:18] <bigfoot1> the pls file has a section on file, and a section on authType
[10:18] <Madpilot> intelikey: no idea, I've got nearly 10x that amount of RAM here :P
[10:18] <intelikey> lol  ok
[10:19] <Xira> hi everyone, i'd just like to say i've been running Ubuntu on my 4.5TB local networked storage for over 8 months, and it's been running stable & solid! a big thanks
[10:19] <cute_bettong> is ubuntu ever gonna suffer from DRM (as in are we gonna ever have to use it?)
[10:19] <bigfoot1> xira you are most welcome
[10:19] <mustard5> Xira, thats good news :)
[10:19] <selinium> Xira, Woo Hoo  \o/   Glad you made the right choice! :D
[10:19] <intelikey> Xira nice spam
[10:20] <ufo> why cant amule connect to servers?
[10:20] <Sando> Hi everyone, i have a problem
[10:20] <intelikey> ufo firewall ?
[10:20] <selinium> ufo are you using firestarter or similar?
[10:20] <ufo> intelikey: no
[10:21] <cute_bettong> i thought you diden't need a firewall with ubuntu? or has something changed O_o
[10:21] <Sando> I just installed Ubuntu Server Edition (Breezy Badger) and I'm having trouble getting my Network interfaces (eth0, eth1, eth2, eth3) to a) configure and b) start at boot time.  Can anybody help me with this?
[10:21] <selinium> ufo are you behind a router? is the router forwarding the right ports to your amule box?
[10:22] <selinium> cute_bettong, Only if you are running webservices
[10:22] <selinium> cute_bettong, like a server or such...
[10:22] <ufo> selinium: yes i am and everything else is working
[10:22] <cute_bettong> would i need a firewall if i wanted to create a backup server on lan only?
[10:23] <cute_bettong> oh and speaking of a backup is there any app for ubuntu that kinda does what norton ghost does?
[10:23] <jetscreamer> why would you not want a firewall, unless it's not connected
[10:23] <jetscreamer> dd does it
[10:23] <selinium> ufo: your router probably has a firewall in it. you will need to open the port and forward it to your amule box.
[10:23] <mustard5> cute_bettong, partimage
[10:24] <selinium> cute_bettong, if it is on a lan and you trust the other users not to try and hack your machine....
[10:24] <ufo> selinium: yes it does forward everything
[10:24] <intelikey> Sando i don't know the utmost farthing about networking,  but i can tell you that driver aliases go in /etc/modules.conf  and any commands that must be run to get the network up and running on all eight cylenders can be added to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh   and they will be ran at startup  by init.
[10:24] <cute_bettong> partimage? never herd of it lol
[10:24] <mustard5> cute_bettong, its in the repos
[10:25] <cute_bettong> getting it now
[10:25] <Sando> intelikey, thanks man, i thought it also might have something to do with /etc/network/interfaces .... but i might be wrong
[10:25] <mustard5> cute_bettong, you are talking about making images of a partition?
[10:26] <mustard5> you can run it from a CD called System Rescue CD cute_bettong
[10:26] <jetscreamer> dd if=/dev/hda of=hda.iso
[10:26] <jetscreamer> done
[10:26] <jetscreamer> add sudo
[10:26] <cute_bettong> i am talking about doing something that norton ghost does....backup your intire hard drive in an "image" so that if your computer crashes (always does with windows) i can through a cd in and it will recover from where i left off even if the HD0 has changed
[10:26] <lianghu> Is freeflying here?
[10:26] <intelikey> oh no Sando you are absolutely correct about   /etc/network/interfaces   also  /etc/hosts*     but like i said,   i have to bow out there, and plead ignorance.
[10:26] <Hentai^XP> cute_bettong blah
[10:26] <mustard5> cute_bettong, yeah thats it
[10:27] <Sando> lol, thx Intelikey
[10:27] <cute_bettong> ok cool ^_^
[10:27] <Swiff>  is it safe to do a cat /proc/mtrr in an ubuntu breezy badger installed os?
[10:27] <Swiff> Swiff to check the MTRR?
[10:27] <Swiff> Swiff any yall know? lol
[10:27] <Swiff> for mplayer
[10:27] <mustard5> cute_bettong, I think you need to run it from liveCD..or at least the partition needs to be unmounted...I'm only just reading about it now :)
[10:27] <mustard5> cute_bettong, I found it about five minutes ago ;)
[10:27] <cute_bettong> ok
[10:27] <selinium> ufo: if the router is passing the infomation (correct prt forwarding)  and the PC is receiving the inforamtion (no firewall) then the only other problem would be if your ISP is blocking the port.
[10:27] <intelikey> but Sando someone like mustard5 Seveas crimsun Madpilot or the like can help you when they catch up.... be patient.
[10:28] <ufo> selinium: it works on windows
[10:28] <intelikey> i just don't do netowrking    or windows.
[10:28] <root-OS> why?
[10:28] <Sando> ok, thanks intelikey, i'll lookout for them
[10:28] <mustard5> intelikey, I'm a network n00b myself :)
[10:28] <intelikey> oh mustard5 i mistook you for someone else.
[10:28] <intelikey> sorry.
[10:28] <selinium> ufo, it works on my ubuntu box. does your windows system reside on the same pc?
[10:29] <root-OS> hello everybody!!
[10:29] <selinium> root-OS, hi
[10:29] <root-OS> where are you,selinlium?
[10:29] <intelikey> !asl
[10:29] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, intelikey
[10:30] <cute_bettong> ok so i would have to boot off of a live cd so that i can run this app and backup my hard drive to cd?
[10:30] <Xira> [people@soylentgreen] ~: uptime
[10:30] <Xira> 1:25 up 8 months, 3 days, 2 users, load averages: 0.21 0.67 1.03
[10:30] <cute_bettong> and it can boot from the cd?
[10:30] <selinium> root-OS, ? I am not going to asl !
[10:30] <Xira> thats the ubuntu box
[10:30] <Xira> :D
[10:30] <reikon> selinium: Go look at pr0n. --> http://www.stopasl.com
[10:30] <mustard5> cute_bettong, I think that yeah..I have a link...
[10:30] <mustard5> cute_bettong, http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[10:30] <selinium> reikon, lol
[10:30] <ufo> selinium: do you use dapper?
[10:30] <mustard5> cute_bettong, this CD has a whole lot of tools on it...one of which is partimage
[10:30] <selinium> ufo: nope.
[10:30] <cute_bettong> w0w
[10:31] <root-OS> soory ,what mean "asl",selinium
[10:31] <mustard5> cute_bettong, this is the partimage website http://www.partimage.org/
[10:31] <ufo> selinium: i do
[10:31] <reikon> hehe...
[10:31] <reikon> any anti-asl script lol
[10:31] <selinium> ufo: does your windows OS reside on the same machine as your Dapper OS?
[10:31] <cute_bettong> holy crap so the dapper cd will have it on it? O_O
[10:31] <Syns> everytime i try to run dapper it tells me that my cd rom or the file is corrupt..
[10:31] <Syns> this is the second time ive had to download it
[10:31] <ufo> selinium: yes
[10:31] <gean> hi all !
[10:32] <mustard5> cute_bettong, I just installed it via synaptic, but then realised thats not much use since I want to back up my whole system...so I'm checking out the System Rescue CD
[10:32] <cute_bettong> cool
[10:32] <mustard5> cute_bettong, dapper?  no idea about dapper, this is a seperate concern
[10:33] <selinium> ufo: ok, :) so we know the info is getting as far as the pc. Try installing firestarter and opening the right ports.
[10:33] <mustard5> cute_bettong, I used to use mondo to do system backups, but there is some controversy going on with the developers of mondo atm and things have come to a stanstill
[10:33] <mustard5> cute_bettong, at the moment I actually tarballing my whole system onto a usb drive
[10:33] <jetscreamer> !don't tell root-OS about root
[10:33] <ubotu> jetscreamer: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:33] <cute_bettong> wow
[10:33] <ufo> does the ubuntu have some ports closed?
[10:34] <bliss> hello all
[10:34] <root-OS> i am newer
[10:34] <jetscreamer> i keep getting older
[10:34] <kos> the default install of 5.10 has packages compiled for i386?
[10:34] <cute_bettong> mustard5: when i get the remaining parts ie hard drives and memory i am going to build a server that i want to store my backups on
[10:34] <cute_bettong> and then others will have one that they can back up there winsux stuff on
[10:35] <mustard5> cute_bettong, :)
[10:35] <bliss> cannot connect to webmin or ssh from outside my box router firewall set up ok
[10:35] <mustard5> hehehe
[10:35] <jetscreamer> why
[10:35] <cute_bettong> why do i hate windows?
[10:35] <selinium> ufo: not that I know, but I am running out of ideas! :)
[10:35] <Swiff> I need to search in terminal for .tff files? but how
[10:35] <jetscreamer> sure
[10:35] <ufo> selinium: ListenSocket: Could not listen to TCP port.
[10:35] <jetscreamer> Swiff: locate, updatedb first
[10:36] <Swiff> mplayer says point it to ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf
[10:36] <intelikey> cute_bettong EULA !
[10:36] <mustard5> Swiff, did you see the answer for that earlier?
[10:36] <jetscreamer> Swiff: ln
[10:36] <Swiff> nope
[10:36] <selinium> Swiff, Did you install the mplayer-fonts?
[10:36] <mustard5> Swiff, sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts?
[10:36] <kos> if i were to install 5.10 on a pc then remove the hard disk and put it in another computer will it still work?
[10:36] <Swiff> talkin in mplayer lol
[10:36] <selinium> Swiff, sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[10:36] <jetscreamer> make a symlink to a font, but it's an ignorable error
[10:36] <cute_bettong> well the very last time i use windows it was both on a server and on a computer and the server install went AS i was backing up 8 years of data
[10:36] <Swiff> oo cool
[10:36] <cute_bettong> so i lost everything
[10:36] <selinium> Swiff, I posted that for you ages ago!
[10:36] <mustard5> Swiff, I thought you saw selinium say that :)
[10:36] <cute_bettong> and oh yes the stupid EULA
[10:36] <selinium> lol
[10:37] <Syns> everytime i try to run dapper it tells me that my cd rom or the file is corrupt.. anyone else have that problem?
[10:37] <cute_bettong> although i never listend to it in the first place
[10:37] <gean> need some help : on my hd there is an empty partition of 10MB (goodbye Windows & wine), how can i explain ubuntu to always mount it when starting. And first of all, how can i format it in ext2 or ext3 or so.. ?! Or: Is it possible to enlarge the Ubuntu-Data-Partition with these 10 MB ?!
[10:37] <cute_bettong> if it was m$ i diden't pay for it....
[10:37] <bliss> what is url for paste and who gives answers in paste blob
[10:37] <jetscreamer> Syns: i've seen some ppl say that
[10:37] <cute_bettong> come to think about it i never paid one dime for any of my windows apps
[10:37] <rowanjl> Does anyone here know how to set mime-types in gnome?
[10:37] <mustard5> !pastebin
[10:37] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:37] <cute_bettong> somehow it just dosen't seem right to pirate things in linux
[10:37] <Syns> whats the problem?
[10:38] <cute_bettong> it's weard but you pirate something in ubuntu and you just feel........dirty
[10:38] <Syns> breezy works fine
[10:38] <Webx> The regular expression "." means current foolder right?
[10:38] <bliss> hello all
[10:38] <root-OS> yes
[10:38] <gean> . is current folder, yes..
[10:38] <mustard5> greetings bliss
[10:38] <jetscreamer> not sure, but you asked if anybody...  you might try running an md5sum against it and see if you had a bad burn
[10:38] <bliss> hi mustard5
[10:38] <jetscreamer> directory
[10:38] <Syns> hrm..
[10:38] <Syns> ive tried a couple different burners
[10:38] <Syns> windows.. and nero
[10:39] <Syns> ill try again
[10:39] <bliss> mustard5 cannot get connection IN from port 22 or webmin got netstat -tln if you need to take a look
[10:39] <cute_bettong> if you want a good burning app i'd suggest k3b
[10:39] <jetscreamer> Syns: i've actually had the problem that k3b didn't burn good but in windows it did... ymmv, could be anything
[10:39] <mustard5> bliss, I have never used webmin :)
[10:39] <cute_bettong> it does everything i want it to ^_^
[10:39] <jetscreamer> s/it/some other burner app/
[10:39] <jetscreamer> \\\\
[10:39] <cute_bettong> ha ha
[10:40] <Swiff> hahahaha
[10:40] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, remeber me :P i had the apache2 prob with the dirs
[10:40] <bliss> no ok wahat abiout ssh port 22
[10:40] <mustard5> bliss, and networking makes my head spin :)
[10:40] <Swiff> my mplayer woks!!
[10:40] <Swiff> works
[10:40] <Swiff> 8-)
[10:40] <Swiff> YAY
[10:40] <Swiff> your amazing
[10:40] <Syns> funny thing about k3b..
[10:40] <bliss> mustard 5 well that makes two of us what about ssh on port 22
[10:40] <jetscreamer> 're
[10:40] <mustard5> bliss, someone else might now
[10:40] <Syns> the first time i installed ubuntu i installed k3b
[10:40] <cute_bettong> O_O ?
[10:40] <cute_bettong> and what happend?
[10:41] <Syns> the next time i installed ubuntu.. and tried to add it, it told me something about my hardware platform isnt good
[10:41] <mustard5> bliss, show me the link if you like
[10:41] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, i've been thinking, could it have anything to do with httpd.conf?
[10:41] <bliss> calling all network people
[10:41] <nbound> if i want to have a network with both linux and and windows machines do i need to install both samba and NFS?
[10:41] <intelikey> gean  sudo cfdisk /dev/hda       to build a linux partition out of the free space.   sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda#   where # is the new partition number.    sudo edit /etc/fstab     and add a line  similar to     "/dev/hda# /home ext3 defaults 1 0 "      again where # is aproprate number.   then mount it on /mnt   and copy your /home/* to it.     that is everything you asked for.
[10:41] <Syns> or incompatible etc
[10:41] <jetscreamer> touch /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run if you don't want it to be
[10:41] <mustard5> bliss, I probably won't understand it :)
[10:41] <cute_bettong> WHOA my eyes my poor eyes
[10:41] <ufo> selinium: the xmule works out of the box but amule not
[10:41] <Fujitsu> shikamaru85, unlikely. What is the line in it?
[10:41] <cute_bettong> ARGHHH the spam
[10:41] <cute_bettong> >.<
[10:41] <nbound> if i want to have a network with both linux and and windows machines do i need to install both samba and NFS?
[10:41] <cute_bettong> nextime use www.pastebin.com
[10:42] <cute_bettong> or somethin similar
[10:42] <jetscreamer> nbound: no just samba
[10:42] <shikamaru85> Fujitsu, none, it's empty
[10:42] <selinium> ufo, you have logged in haven't you?
[10:42] <nbound> jetscreamer, thanx :)
[10:42] <Fujitsu> That shouldn't be a problem then, shikamaru85.
[10:42] <Alexi5> ubuntu is great
[10:42] <bliss> mustard5 I was useing debian sarge but now ubuntu -----it just seems support is so fast
[10:42] <ufo> selinium: logged in what?
[10:42] <jetscreamer> -_-
[10:42] <Alexi5> i am thinking of putting it on the family PC
[10:43] <mustard5> bliss, with ubuntu?
[10:43] <root-OS> good ideal!
[10:43] <bliss> mustard yes
[10:43] <cute_bettong> *DUMMY-MODE_ON*
[10:43] <root-OS> ubuntu is good
[10:43] <mustard5> bliss, so I hear...I have only ever used ubuntu :)
[10:43] <cute_bettong> no ubuntu is not good.
[10:43] <cute_bettong> it's great ^_^
[10:43] <cute_bettong> XD
[10:43] <mustard5> bliss, I guess it depends on the problem :)
[10:43] <bliss> mustard5 yes and although sarge is more soild you get no suppoert
[10:44] <jetscreamer> how's that
[10:44] <selinium> ufo, one mo, just installing it here.
[10:44] <mustard5> bliss, well everyone in here is pretty much a volunteer, so its still hit and miss :)
[10:44] <mustard5> bliss, depends who is online when you get in here
[10:44] <nelsmar> mwaahahahahah
[10:44] <nelsmar> I WIN
[10:44] <nelsmar> my FN keys work
[10:44] <nelsmar> MWAHAHAHAHAH
[10:44] <nelsmar> fucking had to learn perl
[10:44] <nelsmar> lol
[10:45] <bliss> mustard5 yep thats true but the forum is preet good
[10:45] <Linux_g33k> darn that was odd lol
[10:45] <nelsmar> :D
[10:45] <mustard5> bliss, yeah, I post on the forum myself...mainly in absolute begginers as thats about my level of expertise :)
[10:45] <Linux_g33k> i want to learn how to make programs but it seems so complex
[10:45] <selinium> nelsmar, Watch you r language!
[10:45] <bliss> nelsmar fucking not a good word here?
[10:46] <mustard5> bliss, I'm very good and indexing HOW TO's and finding the right HOW TO hand on to someone hehehe
[10:46] <Alexi5> do any of you guys install kde and gnome on the same machine
[10:46] <selinium> bliss, not funny....
[10:46] <mustard5> bliss, no..swearing is not really allowed in this channel
[10:46] <j1p> Whats the best way to bind keys to shell commands in kubuntu?
[10:46] <selinium> bliss, nelsmar Read the Code of Conduct
[10:46] <selinium> !CoC
[10:46] <ubotu> [coc]  the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:47] <kos> i use a proxy to access http, how do i set that for Add/Remove programs?
[10:47] <nelsmar> oh sorry about my language
[10:47] <nelsmar> XD
[10:47] <nelsmar> im sooo hapy though
[10:47] <nelsmar> i been doin this <censor> stuffs for about 6 hours now
[10:47] <nelsmar> :D:D:D:D:D
[10:47] <mustard5> kos, would that be 'Add Applications'?
[10:47] <kos> yeah whatever
[10:48] <kos> but it doesnt have any proxy setting dialog
[10:48] <selinium> nelsmar, bliss It's not a problem, we get some really young ubuntites in here for help!
[10:48] <kos> the gnome network proxy config is not being read
[10:48] <nelsmar> sorry didnt htink about it XD
[10:48] <mustard5> kos, I'm thinking it would use the same settings as Synaptic?  Your tried that?
[10:48] <selinium> nelsmar, Glad you cracked it!
[10:48] <bliss> selinium yep my fault did not mean to say it a 2nd time
[10:48] <nelsmar> ill keep it mellow : P
[10:48] <nelsmar> im still piseed i couldnt get it to work in C++
[10:48] <kos> mustard5, where do i find Synaptic?
[10:48] <nelsmar> nothign godo on how to make a nvidia 6200go dim its screen on forums
[10:48] <nelsmar> or on the web
[10:48] <mustard5> kos, in System>>Administration>>Synaptic Package Manager
[10:49] <nelsmar> so i had to write my own 0.o
[10:49] <nelsmar> well my gf needs ride home bye :D
[10:49] <Swiff> wow I have this xmms music player on I have that spectrum analizer visualizasion on awsome lol 8-)
[10:49] <mustard5> kos, try changing the network settings in that and see if it affects the add applications proxy
[10:50] <selinium> Swiff  apt-cache search xmms   will bring up lots of other toys for xmms
[10:50] <bliss> selinium now anything about connecting to ssh to your box from outside
[10:50] <gean> intelikey : thanks a lot ! i will perform the prescribed steps in a second ! (always got afraid about partitioning, just have red the [man cfdisk]  for my inner confort ) THANKS once again!
[10:50] <selinium> bliss yep
[10:50] <Swiff> ok cool
[10:50] <selinium> Swiff take a lok at goom.
[10:50] <Swiff> k
[10:51] <bliss> selinium I have set up my router ok but still cannot get a connection from outside
[10:51] <selinium> Swiff visuals a-go-go
[10:51] <bliss> selinium only useing firewall router
[10:51] <selinium> bliss so your router is forwarding port 22 to your box, yes?
[10:51] <Swiff> sudo apt-get install smms goom?
[10:51] <Syns> are there any sites that talk about partitioning? how much space should i leave for /root /opt etc
[10:52] <Swiff> or just goom
[10:52] <Linux_g33k> bliss for ssh also forward port 64
[10:52] <bliss> selinium yep
[10:52] <selinium> Swiff, sudo apt-get install xmms-goom
[10:52] <Swiff> ok
[10:52] <mustard5> Syns, are you using expert install?
[10:52] <intelikey> gean sure....   and also if you cp those files like i said.   but never delete them from the "present" home    you have a sort of failsafe goback for you settings.     mounting a partition on any dir hides all inodes that were in that dir making them inaccessable while the partition is mounted.
[10:52] <Syns> sometimes i do..
[10:52] <Syns> just to get use to it
[10:52] <Syns> this is a dual boot too
[10:52] <jetscreamer> !tldp
[10:52] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jetscreamer
[10:53] <bliss> Linux_g33k as well as port 22 or instead of
[10:53] <mustard5> Syns, it has some option that automatically sets up a set of partitions and picks good sizes for them
[10:53] <selinium> bliss  type   ps -C sshd   in a term does it return an active process?
[10:53] <Linux_g33k> bliss as well
[10:53] <intelikey> that is to say only the mounted filesystem is accessable.
[10:53] <jetscreamer> !tldp is <reply> http://tldp.org/ , the linux documentation project
[10:53] <ubotu> jetscreamer: okay
[10:53] <Linux_g33k> SSH requires ports 22 and 64 to run
[10:53] <mustard5> Syns, you know you have enable superuser privileges for the first user account manually on expert install?
[10:53] <Syns> yeah, but it will affect my xp partition if i let it to it by itself
[10:53] <bliss> selinium just a sec
[10:53] <kos> mustard5, ok yes in Synaptic i can set a proxy
[10:53] <selinium> Linux_g33k, lol I think we got that! :D
[10:54] <mustard5> kos, k...glad it worked :)
[10:54] <kos> mustard5, But my proxy requires authentication, i never get the login prompt hence it cant connect again
[10:54] <Linux_g33k> XD
[10:54] <mustard5> kos, ah!
[10:54] <kos> :(
[10:54] <mustard5> kos, I think there is a special way of writing the proxy setting that can include the authentication...not sure though
[10:54] <intelikey> Linux_g33k 22 and 64   ?
[10:55] <mustard5> kos, let me do some study ....brb
[10:55] <intelikey> what does it use 64 for ?
[10:55] <bliss> selinium  PID TTY
[10:56] <mustard5> Syns, how do you mean ?  How does it effect the XP partition?
[10:56] <dcrocket> any ideas why a dapper livecd would overwrite a windows MBR for simply booting into it?
[10:56] <exxpert> selinium: have you ever tried "skype_dsp_hijacker"?
[10:56] <selinium> bliss ok the reason you aren't getting a connaction is that you dont have the ssh daemon running
[10:56] <bliss> selinium PID IS 515 question mark under tty time 0000
[10:56] <exxpert> *grrr*.. i hate to be a n00b..:-S:-/
[10:56] <selinium> exxpert, I havent had to use it before
[10:57] <intelikey> dcrocket it should not !
[10:57] <dcrocket> :-/
[10:57] <bliss> selium PID TTY          TIME CMD
[10:57] <bliss>   515 ?        00:00:00 sshd
[10:57] <ownerx> dapper is really nice
[10:57] <dcrocket> I'm getting "NTLDR is missing", yet hadn't touched _ANYTHING_ but configuring NIC and using firefox
[10:57] <selinium> bliss,  ok it is running
[10:58] <selinium> are you on the lan?
[10:58] <mustard5> Syns, we might be thinking of a different option anyway...I think this option works after you choose which partition to use to install
[10:58] <intelikey> dcrocket you didn't access files on the ntfs ?      no writes ?
[10:58] <dcrocket> if I did, i don't know how i did
[10:58] <selinium> bliss, on both machines yes?
[10:58] <bliss> selinium no lan just a labtop and router
[10:59] <intelikey> dcrocket i don't do windows.  but that shouldn't happen.
[10:59] <dcrocket> :/
[10:59] <dcrocket> how do I mount my ntfs drives? I want to backup whatever was on my boot disk (desktop crap)
[10:59] <exxpert> selinium: have downloaded the .deb of skype_dsp_hijacker from that site you told me before,, and tries to install by "sudo dpkg -i /home/exxpert/Desktop/skype-dsp-hijacker_0.6-0ubuntu0seveas2_i386.deb".. got just a new $ not a message its installed or something..should it be like that?
[11:00] <mustard5> kos, I have a way you can work around it
[11:00] <dcrocket> (w/o editing fstab and rebooting)
[11:00] <mustard5> kos, you will probably need to install via command line though
[11:01] <intelikey> from the dapper live   maybe a simple browse there from naut.     or see the forum on ntfs
[11:01] <intelikey> !ntfs
[11:01] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:01] <_mindspin> ! dapper
[11:01] <selinium> exxpert, yes, i believe so.
[11:01] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[11:02] <dcrocket> naut? checking that link now
[11:02] <intelikey> nautilous
[11:02] <intelikey> file manager.
[11:03] <mustard5> kos, ?
[11:03] <intelikey> the home icon.    in that pointy clicky thingy
[11:03] <intelikey> i go now.
[11:03] <dcrocket> ya right, it doesn't look like they're mounted
[11:06] <eyeonus> Is there anyone here available to help me get sound to work on my box?
[11:06] <defrysk> !anyone
[11:06] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:06] <mustard5> kos, I have an answer if you feel like working this out :)
[11:07] <selinium> bliss, the remote computer. is sshd running on that?
[11:07] <eyeonus> If you can help me get it to work, I'm willing to do it.
[11:08] <Linux_g33k> O_o
[11:08] <Linux_g33k> now theres a mite bit more lol
[11:08] <bliss> selinium I try to coonect to my box which we have established is running sshd I connect from worl on a wondows xp box useing putty
[11:08] <spaceeman> Hi..., is there a french Ubuntu channel somewhere ?
[11:09] <rob> !fr
[11:09] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:09] <bliss> selinum *work
[11:09] <ufo> selinium: ok.. now it works had to install xmule and after that amule then it works??
[11:09] <Linux_g33k> um just a question...why would you runn ssh to a windows box? isen't that a good waste of a linux app?
[11:09] <ufo> selinium: then remove xmule
[11:09] <Linux_g33k> O_o
[11:09] <selinium> bliss how are you connecting? ssh user@blah.blah.blah.blah
[11:09] <beloy0820> hi can anyone help me
[11:09] <Swiff> I got goom all setup yay
[11:10] <beloy0820> how can i install metasploit here at ubuntu
[11:10] <Swiff> I was wondeirng if theres a way to auto start firestarter? :-\
[11:10] <Josh1> is there any gmail checkers for ubuntu?
[11:10] <mustard5> Josh1, yep
[11:10] <mustard5> Josh1, I have to find it again
[11:10] <selinium> ufo: Strange! glad you got it sorted, i will remember that one!
[11:10] <Josh1> firestarter loads up bootup
[11:10] <Josh1> mustard5 thanks :)
[11:11] <beloy0820> can i run metasploit  @ ubuntu
[11:11] <beloy0820> anyone
[11:11] <mustard5> Josh1, gmail-notify
[11:11] <mustard5> Josh1, in the repositories
[11:11] <Josh1> mustard5 Thanks, ill check.
[11:11] <bliss> selnium by putty  on xp at work just type in my static ip address or host name
[11:12] <beloy0820> ?
[11:12] <bliss> selnium putty is set up already as default to connect on 22
[11:12] <mustard5> Swiff, there is a way to start the gui at startup I think, but the firewall is running by default when you startup
[11:13] <Josh1> mustard5 Thank you so much, it worked!
[11:13] <Swiff> firestarter
[11:13] <Swiff> I need to click on it
[11:13] <mustard5> Josh1, np
[11:13] <Swiff> to start in ubuntu breezy badger
[11:13] <mustard5> Swiff, yeah..you know that its just a gui front-end to the real firewall?
[11:13] <Swiff> every time
[11:14] <Ilokaasu> my laptop wont boot anymore, ubuntu loads until "checking battery state" and then it wont go anywhere anymore....any ideaas ??
[11:14] <mustard5> Swiff, iptables is the firewall and it is on by default....its just the gui that is not running..
[11:14] <Swiff> I can start the filter though
[11:14] <Swiff> ICMP filtering
[11:14] <Swiff> its on by default?
[11:14] <mustard5> Swiff, iptables starts at bootup
[11:15] <Swiff> still blocking ICMP?
[11:15] <mustard5> Swiff, firestarter is just the gui....it doesnt turn it on by starting it
[11:15] <mustard5> Swiff, all your setting are running from startup
[11:15] <mustard5> Swiff, do you need more explanation?
[11:16] <mustard5> Swiff, its a front-end to the real firewall
[11:16] <Swiff> ok so can I use anything I currently have to stream music off the internet like www.digitallyimported.com?
[11:16] <Swiff> see I have:
[11:16] <Swiff> mplayer,
[11:17] <Swiff> vlc, xmms
[11:17] <Josh1[AFK] > realplayer?
[11:17] <Swiff> can I use any of that to stream music off the internet?
[11:17] <Swiff> no?
[11:18] <Swiff> I mean like good solid house music dj stuff
[11:18] <Josh1> i use to use realplayer to listen to streams in windows, and there is a realplayer10 in ubuntu.
[11:18] <jetscreamer> yes
[11:18] <mustard5> Swiff, I don't know the technicalities of what you are asking
[11:18] <jetscreamer> they all can do streams, xmms needs a plugin iirc
[11:18] <Swiff> I used to go to www,digitallyimported.com they have awsome music but it streams
[11:19] <Swiff> www.digitallyimported.com
[11:19] <Swiff> great music
[11:19] <jetscreamer> if you have the required codecs that is
[11:19] <Swiff> can I listen to it in ubuntu??
[11:19] <jetscreamer> ^
[11:19] <Swiff> codecs
[11:19] <mustard5> !w32codecs
[11:19] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:19] <Swiff> (0_o)
[11:20] <digger3> Hi, I have an ati 9600, fglrxinfo tells me 'OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL version string: 2.0.5642 (8.22.5)', but fgl_glxgear still only gives me 300fps (while my cpu maxes out) and glxgears runs so slow it won't give me a score, any help?
[11:20] <Swiff> were I get w32codecs?
[11:20] <mustard5> Swiff, read the message from ubotu above :)
[11:20] <Swiff> with w32codecs I can click a link on that site and it streams?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Swiff: see the ubotu post above
[11:22] <Swiff> wow
[11:22] <Swiff> im downloading it lol
[11:22] <Swiff> fixin to try hehe
[11:22] <Swiff> thanx 8-)
[11:22] <eyeonus> May I have some help getting sound on my box? All I've can get from my speakers is static- when I turn the volume way up.
[11:23] <beloy0820> help anyone
[11:23] <ufo> the mplayer plugin for mozilla is great
[11:23] <beloy0820> about metasploit
[11:23] <dcrocket> does samba have a default username/password?
[11:23] <spacey> beloy0820: why would you ask here about metasploit?
[11:23] <mustard5> beloy0820, I have no idea what it is :)
[11:23] <dcrocket> i'm trying to share out some mounted folders, but 2k is denying the user/pw
[11:23] <dcrocket> i've tried guest/guest, my username/pw, root username/pw
[11:24] <mustard5> hehe
[11:24] <mustard5> he left
[11:24] <spacey> mustard5: its a framework for writing exploits and using them etc.
[11:24] <mustard5> spacey, ah ..heheh
[11:24] <dcrocket> + none are accepted
[11:24] <dcrocket> i can't see anything in the /etc/samba/smb.conf file that'd cause it to deny any username/pw combo either
[11:25] <mustard5> you looked over the wiki how to on samba dcrocket ?
[11:25] <mustard5> dcrocket, I've never used it and have no idea how it works
[11:26] <dcrocket> just the unofficial FAQ's and manpages
[11:26] <gnomefreak> !samba
[11:26] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:26] <gnomefreak> try there dcrocket
[11:26] <Alexi5> all hail ubuntu
[11:26] <mustard5> :)
[11:26] <rob> hmm
[11:27] <Lorvy> HEy I tried to install xubuntu on existing ubuntu but cant get this computer to use xfce.. How do i do that?
[11:28] <rob> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <dcrocket> no luck, doesn't appear to have anything usefulk
[11:28] <mustard5> Lorvy, at your login screen go to 'sessions' and choose xfce?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Lorvy: you need to log out and choose xfce from sessions
[11:28] <Lorvy> rob: i used synaptic package manager to do that... wrong?
[11:28] <bliss> selimuim I notice on my rputer there were two connections yesterday on UDP
[11:28] <dcrocket> only how to permanently mount the shares
[11:28] <rob> Lorvy, no, that line is just easier
[11:28] <Lorvy> mustard5 gnomefreak  okay thanks
[11:28] <bliss> ROUTER log
[11:28] <dcrocket> i just need them to backup some files off this ntfs drive onto another 2k ntfs drive (i'm using the live cd)
[11:29] <Alexi5> why use xfce when you have gnome
[11:29] <rob> Alexi5, gnome is bloated
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: xfce is lighter and faster than gnome
[11:29] <mustard5> Alexi5, because of hardware limitations
[11:29] <rob> I don't even have it installed
[11:29] <eyeonus> May I have some help getting sound on my box? All I've can get from my speakers is static- when I turn the volume way up.
[11:29] <rob> I'm about to compile the latest bleeding edge version of xfce from the xfce project
[11:30] <Josh1> google your soundcard in google, thats what i did.
[11:30] <eyeonus> I've done that, I cou;dn't find anything that helped.
[11:30] <Swiff> can I make mplayer replay?
[11:30] <Alexi5> kde is bloated
[11:30] <rob> yep
[11:30] <Swiff> I can? :O
[11:31] <Swiff> how
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: gnome is bloated almost as much as kde
[11:31] <Swiff> I want mplyer to replay automaticly
[11:31] <Swiff> mplayer*
[11:31] <mustard5> Swiff, I think that answer was directed at someone else
[11:32] <Alexi5> doesn't xfce come with the same stuff as gnome
[11:32] <dreamer_> does anybody know why, in xfce, there is no desktop-button ?
[11:33] <Swiff> oo lmao
[11:33] <gyro_54> Could someone offer advise on xscreensaver and problems with monitor shutdown?
[11:33] <Swiff> mustard do you know if I can make mplayer autoreplay?
[11:33] <mustard5> Swiff, I dont know
[11:34] <mustard5> gyro_54, maybe power management is giving you problems?
[11:34] <mustard5> gyro_54, you on a laptop?
[11:34] <gyro_54> I have a problem where the monitor shuts down but then powers up again 10 minutes later?
[11:35] <gyro_54> No a desktop with a LCD monitor.
[11:35] <mustard5> gyro_54, do you want the monitor to power down?
[11:35] <gyro_54> Yes
[11:36] <mustard5> gyro_54, hmmm..not sure what it is
[11:36] <Swiff> yall I need to send a command to mplayer -loop and I want it to stick lol
[11:36] <gyro_54> I use " xset dpms force off" and it switched off but then restarts 10 minutes later
[11:37] <Swiff> how do I do that?
[11:38] <mustard5> gyro_54, its gone all quiet all of a sudden
[11:38] <mustard5> :)
[11:38] <mustard5> maybe someone will wake up soon and know the answer :)
[11:38] <mesaboogie1> i got a question: how can i $find /* -name 'src/linux' (since it's a folder) what's the correct syntax please??
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Alexi5: no xfce doesnt come with all the same things that gnome does the reason you see what gnome comes with in xfce is because you have both installed
[11:39] <kos> is it possible to configure ADSL on default 5.10?
[11:39] <mustard5> kos, yes
[11:39] <mustard5> kos, I found your proxy problem answer
[11:39] <kos> mustard5, where/how?
[11:39] <mesaboogie1> (i'm ona live-cd so it's not where it 'should?' be)
[11:39] <kos> mustard5, so did i, thanks :)
[11:39] <gyro_54> Its a strange problem. Ithought it was associated with a new ATI card
[11:40] <pl_ice> hi :)
[11:40] <mesaboogie1> hi
[11:40] <mustard5> kos, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[11:40] <kadaj> is perl better than python?
[11:40] <kos> mustard5, thanks :)
[11:40] <gean> find / -name linux | grep src may work (and take some time) ; better use locate...
[11:40] <gnomefreak> kadaj: not really but all depends on what you mean by better
[11:40] <Swiff> ok I need to send -loop in the terminal to mplayer and I cant adjust the equalizer
[11:41] <mesaboogie1> ok gean, thanx!
[11:42] <Swiff> any ideas?
[11:42] <Webx> what dose the "+" sign do?
[11:42] <Swiff> peoplez
[11:42] <gyro_54> mustard5, should I add your name when I am talking to you?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> Webx: in what?
[11:43] <mark__> hi all
[11:43] <Mabo> hi
[11:43] <mustard5> gyro_54, when you do it appears as red text and also sets of nick notification...so if you want my attention yes...its also good if the channel is busy so we know who is talking to who
[11:43] <Webx> gnomefreak: as a regular expression
[11:44] <gyro_54> mustard5, new at this!
[11:44] <mustard5> gyro_54, :)
[11:44] <Webx> gnomefreak: like file* matches all files starting on "file"
[11:44] <Swiff> hello
[11:45] <mustard5> gyro_54, its pretty quiet in here atm, but when its busy its quite frantic keeping up with the chat
[11:46] <gyro_54> mustard5, with a problem like this do you normally just wait or repost again later?
[11:46] <Webx> anyone knows what the regular expression + dose? like file* matches all files that start of file
[11:46] <Swiff> anyone understand what I want to do?
[11:46] <twb> Webx: x+ is equivalent to xx*
[11:46] <mustard5> gyro_54, the usual thing to do it to repost occasionally, but not too often...if people don't respond then often they don't know (its not necessarily that they dont care)
[11:47] <Swiff> I have to thank all the people that have helped me solve many problems already I emailed those to myself lol
[11:47] <twb> Webx: in english, "x+" means "one or more x"
[11:47] <gyro_54> mustard5, thanks
[11:47] <nelsmar> kk this is a noob question, im getting tired of.... having to go in as root to access my windows drives, what flags do i ned in fstab or is there some fancy ubuntu way of doing this?
[11:47] <elkbuntu> Webx, regex is fun, but can be annoyingly finicky at times
[11:47] <izzah> hey guys, i was just wondering is there any utilities or apps that assist the disabled on ubuntu by any chance ?
[11:47] <mustard5> gyro_54, if you post too often someone will do this probably.....
[11:47] <twb> I'm using Ubuntu/amd64.  How can I watch DivX videos?
[11:47] <mustard5> !repeat
[11:47] <ubotu> from memory, repeat is Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[11:47] <Webx> twb: thanks.. elkbuntu: it sure can =)
[11:48] <jetscreamer> !codecs
[11:48] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:48] <nelsmar> twb check aut automatrix i think it will isntall the divx codecs for you
[11:48] <twb> jetscreamer: w32codecs for amd64?
[11:48] <nelsmar> its on the forum just search it youll find it right off with a step by step tutorial
[11:48] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[11:48] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:48] <mustard5> twb, I was wondering the same thing :)
[11:48] <mustard5> twb, I don't know how they go with 64bit
[11:49] <Swiff> mplayers equalizer is greyed out
[11:49] <Swiff> I cant move any of that
[11:49] <Swiff> or the video
[11:49] <twb> mustard5: AFAIK, they don't go at all.
[11:49] <jetscreamer> izzah: yeah they're called accessibility programs and comes by default iirc
[11:49] <Swiff> 8-(
[11:49] <gnomefreak> twb: alot of multimedia that works in 32 doesnt really work in 64
[11:49] <jetscreamer> !accessiblility
[11:49] <ubotu> jetscreamer: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:49] <ufo> Swiff: you need to enable them
[11:49] <twb> gnomefreak: I was afraid of that.
[11:49] <Swiff> how?
[11:49] <Swiff> :O
[11:49] <twb> Really all I want is to watch the SICP videos.
[11:49] <ufo> mplayer and codecs works on dapper 64
[11:50] <twb> ufo: really?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> twb: im not sure (what) those things are but i have heard that 64 doesnt support near the multimedia 32 does :(
[11:50] <nelsmar> how do you get ahodl of dapper?
[11:50] <nelsmar> i didnt see anythign on the website
[11:50] <nelsmar> i was thinkin of isntalling it instead
[11:50] <mustard5> !flight4
[11:50] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[11:50] <mustard5> !dapper
[11:50] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[11:50] <twb> gnomefreak: SICP = MIT CompSci textbook.
[11:50] <twb> gnomefreak: SICP videos = videotaped lectures of MIT CompSci course.
[11:51] <ufo> twb: yes, not tryed my self but i was talking today and he said it works...
[11:51] <ufo> at least divx and xvid
[11:51] <nelsmar> someone help me with permissions wiht mounted hard drives
[11:51] <nelsmar> i grew up with windows and get in fights with permissions : P
[11:51] <twb> ufo: mplayer isn't in my repo list.
[11:51] <mustard5> !mount
[11:51] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:51] <ufo> twb: do you use dapper
[11:51] <gnomefreak> twb: you need multiverse enabled
[11:51] <twb> ufo: would you kindly pastbin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list that I may compare it with mine?
[11:51] <twb> Oh... *multi*verse
[11:52] <ufo> twb: yes
[11:52] <twb> Lemme try that.
[11:52] <mustard5> nelsmar, what type of partition?
[11:52] <nelsmar> ntfs
[11:52] <nelsmar> and someone said the ntfs.... writtin support has gotten better but id ont remember the app name
[11:52] <mustard5> nelsmar, no writing to ntfs..just reading :)
[11:52] <mustard5> nelsmar, still experimental and dangerous to use I hear
[11:52] <abhinav12383> ubuntu hangs after login.blank screen.any idea anyone?
[11:52] <nelsmar> i know but there is a system that uses the ntfs drivers from windows isntall
[11:53] <gnomefreak> nelsmar: its not a good idea to attempt writing to ntfs yet
[11:53] <nelsmar> i used it before and there was some problem with hitting 100% cpu ssage while writting and it would cause poblems
[11:53] <twb> Not that I actually *like* mplayer, but I don't know of anything more stable :-)
[11:53] <nelsmar> but i heard they fixed it
[11:53] <gnomefreak> vlc ive heard was good
[11:53] <twb> NTFS write support is not production ready.
[11:53] <nelsmar> kk how do i edit fstab withoguht ubuntu messing with it : P
[11:53] <twb> i.e. do not use it on real data.
[11:54] <twb> nelsmar: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[11:54] <abhinav12383> any help please.
[11:54] <nelsmar> kk
[11:54] <nelsmar> it not going to messw ith that? like xorg.conf : P
[11:54] <twb> abhinav12383: what happens if you hold Control and Alt and press F1 ?
[11:54] <peej> can anyone else reproduce a bug I am having with abiword in breezy? start abiword, insert->symbol->cursor   <barf>   ?
[11:54] <twb> Wow, people still use abiword.
[11:54] <mustard5> nelsmar, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-windows-partitions
[11:54] <Swiff> I tryed enabling the equalizer in mplayer and I still cant use it greyed out still
[11:54] <Swiff> lol
[11:55] <Webx> Can anyone give an exampel when i want to use " . " ? You know like ./dir/dir2 in sted of /dir/dir2 that goes frome the / ?
[11:55] <twb> I thought we'd all agreed to bend over backward and let the fat ass that is  oo.org inside.
[11:55] <mustard5> nelsmar, try reading over that guide and just changing the commands to suit your system
[11:55] <mustard5> nelsmar, if you get lost I can show you how
[11:55] <peej> twb: it's faster and lighter for most writeups. Use the right tool for the job imho.
[11:56] <nelsmar> i got it eded thank guys : ) for once people actualy helped 0.o
[11:56] <nelsmar> just want to make sure ubuntu isnt going to auto -reconfig is all
[11:56] <nelsmar> it likes to do that stuff sometimes : P
[11:56] <mustard5> nelsmar, :)
[11:56] <twb> peej: I prefer docutils :-)
[11:57] <overrider> hello, today i wanted to deinstall certain software i dont need, such as evlolution and gaim and xchat. when i uninstalled evolution, as a dependencie it also deinstalled ubuntu-desktop. i hadnt intented that. is it not possible to install parts of the orifinal software which comes with the ubuntu installation?
[11:57] <twb> I don't actually use a word processor except when someone sends me an .od? file.
[11:57] <mustard5> nelsmar, you can always create a backup before you edit something...its a good practice
[11:57] <nelsmar> how about this one : P how to make ubuntu.... when i use my FN keys to change volume change PCM instead of headphones
[11:57] <nelsmar> yeah i usualy do that, but i hate when ubuntu overwrites my crap lol
[11:58] <mustard5> nelsmar, not sure about that question. :)
[11:58] <mustard5> nelsmar, its pretty unusual :D
[11:58] <peej> overrider: it is. but then things may no longer work. I suspect it doesn't actually remove your desktop, but I may be wrong.
[11:59] <nelsmar> lol
[11:59] <nelsmar> i dont know why it adjust headphones..
[11:59] <nelsmar> but it dont do nuttin
[11:59] <peej> any abiword users tried it yet?
[12:00] <nelsmar> wow mplayer doesnt want to play my mp3's
[12:00] <overrider> well i just want to get rid of evolution, isnt that possible without screwing things up?
[12:00] <nelsmar> it is jerky.....
[12:00] <nelsmar> repeditive
[12:00] <gnomefreak> nelsmar: you have to set it up to play mp3s
[12:00] <Swiff> noone willing to help me be able to use mplayer equalizer?
[12:00] <peej> overrider: try it and see. You can always reinstall evolution.
[12:01] <twb> Who are the MOTU team?
[12:01] <nelsmar> i isntalled the codecs with automatrix... shouldnt that be nuff?
[12:01] <overrider> peej, yes i tried, and it left me with no evolution.....and no ubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <gnomefreak> !motu
[12:01] <ubotu> methinks motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[12:01] <peej> overrider: bummer. apt-get install evolution    then, I guess.
[12:01] <nelsmar> it plays porn fine
[12:01] <gnomefreak> overrider: ubuntu-desktop package is not needed
[12:01] <nelsmar> lol
[12:01] <twb> Ha ha.
[12:02] <peej> gnomefreak : what is ubuntu-desktop anyway?
[12:02] <nelsmar> hhmmm
[12:02] <gnomefreak> its a meta package
[12:02] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[12:02] <nelsmar> kk i can play divx fine... but not mp3
[12:02] <nelsmar> any idea's?
[12:02] <overrider> eh...i think thats your desktop man. cause i couldnt login later on
[12:02] <goki-> Can anyone tell me how to give rights to create ports to a user?
[12:02] <goki-> Well, to create server sockets on ports I guess
[12:02] <gnomefreak> overrider: the login is called the gdm
[12:03] <peej> overrider: so when you say ubuntu-desktop has gone, do you mean your actual gnome desktop has gone and you have a text mode thingy left now? Or are you still surrounded by gui goodness all around ?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> evolution depends on gnome pretty much all together removing evolution is not normally recommended that i have heard of
[12:03] <overrider> gnomefreak, right, and after entering my userid and password, the desktop never loaded. i had to f3 and do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, in which it restored everything to working, but also reinstalled evolution
[12:04] <jetscreamer> removing evolution will take some metapackages with it
[12:04] <jetscreamer> ymmv
[12:04] <overrider> oh really. i thought i can install what i want.....
[12:04] <goki-> AFAIK ubuntu-desktop depends on all expected desktop components, but doesn't probide anythin itself
[12:04] <abhinav12383> ubuntu hangs on login.CTR+ALT+F1 gives FATAL:ext2 module not found/loaded.any help.
[12:04] <goki-> It should say in the package description what ubuntu-desktop does ;)
[12:04] <peej> overrider: splendid explanation. Why can't more people be as clear as you ;-).
[12:04] <jetscreamer> did you compile that kernel abhinav12383 ?
[12:05] <overrider> peej, do you mean that ironic?
[12:05] <gnomefreak> overrider: you can install what you want but packages depend on other things to run
[12:05] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:no but i have 3 OS XP,Knoppix and ubuntu
[12:05] <jetscreamer> and you don't 'have' to have the metapackages installed
[12:05] <jetscreamer> it's complaining about a kernel module abhinav12383, afaict
[12:06] <overrider> its odd. i just dont want evolution as a mail programm, nor do my users need xchat....but to deinstall them it takes ubuntu desktop with it
[12:06] <jetscreamer> it's just a metapackage
[12:06] <Swiff> how do I fix java for mozilla and firefox in ubuntu breezy badger 5.10? 8-(
[12:06] <gnomefreak> overrider: ubuntu-desktop it not needed but what else is being removed?
[12:06] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:but it worked well the first time i booted.when i restarted it it created the prob
[12:06] <bliss> hello all
[12:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Swiff about java
[12:06] <peej> overrider: you mean sarcastically. Irony would be unintentionally humourous. No, I wasn't being sarcastic. It was a proper description. Otherwise I end up playing 20 questions.
[12:06] <jetscreamer> you make a symlink in the plugin directory to the one in the java dir
[12:06] <VarkOog> hey
[12:06] <mustard5> abhinav12383, what where you doing just prior to it happening?
[12:07] <overrider> peej, ah ok
[12:07] <VarkOog> !vpn
[12:07] <ubotu> VarkOog: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <nelsmar> hhmmm was a problem im mplayer
[12:07] <nelsmar> mp3's play fine in xine
[12:07] <nelsmar> (which is isntalled for some reason i did not install it)
[12:07] <jetscreamer> totem-xine probably
[12:07] <VarkOog> Does any1 know how i should set up my VPN to connect to the internet?
[12:07] <bliss> I noitce yesterday from my log router a UDP connection from my ISP --why UDP and not TCP
[12:07] <jetscreamer> filesharing?
[12:08] <VarkOog> nope
[12:08] <VarkOog> My VPN is my ISP
[12:08] <peej> overrider: if you want to remove gnome entirely, you can do that, and use another window manager for speedy lightweightness.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> evolution does not need to be used feel free to install thunderbird or sypleed or another mail cleint
[12:08] <abhinav12383> i downloaded few packages with apt-get.then rebooted went into knoppix which is installed in ext2 partition did soem changes there and came back to ubuntu
[12:08] <bliss> mustard5 --any ideads
[12:08] <overrider> peej, yes i understand that. i just dont want evolution, gaim and xchat
[12:08] <jetscreamer> apt-get remove evolution xchat gaim
[12:08] <jetscreamer> done
[12:08] <gnomefreak> overrider: you can take them out of the menu
[12:09] <mustard5> bliss, no ideas sorry :)
[12:09] <VarkOog> Any answers?
[12:09] <bliss> mustard5 ok thanks
[12:09] <overrider> jetscreamer: will that also take ubuntu-desktop with it? i think it does
[12:09] <peej> overrider: but you are happy with the rest of gnome?
[12:09] <jetscreamer> overrider: as i said, it's just a metapackage
[12:09] <jetscreamer> won't hurt
[12:09] <overrider> ok
[12:09] <jetscreamer> or just take them out of the menu
[12:09] <jetscreamer> like he said
[12:09] <jetscreamer> won't hurt for them to 'be' there
[12:10] <danboid> I seem to have got xgl working now, but I'm missing gnome-window-decorator. Where is it?
[12:10] <overrider> peej, i personally use fluxbox, but i want to use it on certain machines in the office
[12:10] <mustard5> overrider, out of sight out of mind ;)
[12:10] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:i downloaded few packages with apt-get.then rebooted went into knoppix which is installed in ext2 partition did soem changes there and came back to ubuntu
[12:10] <VarkOog> jetscreamer: Do you know how i sould set up my VPN in Ubuntu?
[12:10] <overrider> yes i see :)
[12:10] <jetscreamer> no i don't know anything about vpn
[12:10] <VarkOog> ugger
[12:10] <overrider> but they will find some application they shouldnt use, thats whats annoying about it
[12:10] <jetscreamer> you sure it's not an ext3 partition?
[12:10] <overrider> maybe i can just remove the executable for xchat, be all set...doesnt seem normal though
[12:10] <VarkOog> How bout removing Grub 0.95 without damaging Win XP?
[12:10] <mustard5> VarkOog, you'll get mixed results in here depending on who is in the channel at the time
[12:11] <gnomefreak> bbl
[12:11] <jetscreamer> but i would guess the knoppix messed something. no idea.
[12:11] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:yes i installed knoppix as ext2
[12:11] <mustard5> VarkOog, you want to completely remove forever?
[12:11] <danboid> anybody in here got xgl working under GNOME?
[12:11] <VarkOog> Yip
[12:12] <peej> overrider: apt-get remove xchat tries to remove desktop too?
[12:12] <VarkOog> So i only boot up Win XP on tis PC
[12:12] <jetscreamer> VarkOog: you can rewrite the nt bootloader with the install cd, or just boot a w9x boot floppy and type fdisk /mbr, if your windows boot hd is the first, or if it's set to boot from it in bios
[12:12] <VarkOog> Want to move the Ubuntu to another PC
[12:12] <peej> can anyone else reproduce a bug I am having with abiword in breezy? start abiword, insert->symbol->cursor   <barf>   ?
[12:12] <VarkOog> Thx Jetscreamer, that won't damage my current MBR would it?
[12:13] <jetscreamer> abhinav12383: so what partition is causing your ubuntu installation to hang?
[12:13] <peej> overrider: bummer. did a reinstall of the desktop force evolution/gaim on you again?
[12:13] <mustard5> VarkOog, there are a number of threads in the ubuntuforums on the subject.  If you want I can dig one up :)
[12:13] <VarkOog> please doo
[12:13] <VarkOog> just a link
[12:13] <jetscreamer> VarkOog: it will erase/overwrite your current mbr on the hd the bios is set to boot from, or the one that is detected as the first in the chain by dos/windows
[12:13] <mustard5> VarkOog, k..won't be long
[12:13] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:i don't know.it hangs after login screen
[12:14] <VarkOog> i just wish i could use my ubuntu to connect to the internet
[12:14] <VarkOog> thx mustard
[12:14] <danboid> The problem is that the Ubuntu Xgl howto mentions a compiz-gnome which doesn't exist!
[12:14] <jetscreamer> abhinav12383: which login screen, the gui or the console
[12:14] <abhinav12383> gui
[12:14] <theine> danboid, it does...
[12:14] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:gui
[12:14] <peej> danboid: mebbe try the dapper version?
[12:14] <danboid> I'm running a fully updated dapper
[12:15] <peej> danboid: did breezy have it working?
[12:15] <jetscreamer> abhinav12383: does ctrl alt F1 work ? or is the entire system hung
[12:15] <LoRd-Phr3x> Has anyone else had problems installing XGL and compiz on Dapper?
[12:15] <sdh> LoRd-Phr3x: yes
[12:15] <theine> danboid, compiz-gnome is in the universe repo
[12:15] <sdh> LoRd-Phr3x: i gave up on the basis that it's a waste of time
[12:16] <Swiff> it says I have java 8-(
[12:16] <Swiff> I just cant connect
[12:16] <Swiff> some chat thing
[12:16] <danboid> not tried it under breezy. but there is only one compiz package I can find in universe and thats 'compiz'
[12:16] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:clt alt f1 gives messag on console FATAL:ext2 module no found
[12:16] <Swiff> connected to a video stream lol
[12:16] <selinium> LoRd-Phr3x, there is a #ubuntu+1 for dapper problems as well!
[12:16] <Swiff> I get the video
[12:16] <LoRd-Phr3x> haha, it looks cool though
[12:16] <Swiff> >_<
[12:16] <LoRd-Phr3x> cool, i'll go in there and ask
[12:16] <jetscreamer> abhinav12383: how about ctrl alt f2... or, can you log in in the console.
[12:17] <peej> danboid: ah well. dapper is bleeding edge alpha still.
[12:17] <theine> danboid, please join #flood for a second...
[12:17] <theine> danboid, see?
[12:17] <jetscreamer> apparently it's just the gui hanging, not the system though?
[12:17] <ubtest> is gnopernicus on the ubuntu live cd?
[12:17] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:ya i can login if i give single parameter to grub i.e. it boots in console
[12:18] <jetscreamer> abhinav12383: no i mean when you do ctrl alt f2
[12:18] <jetscreamer> or f1
[12:18] <danboid> theine: i saw
[12:18] <jetscreamer> can you log in
[12:18] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:yes i can log in console if i do ctl alt f1
[12:18] <mustard5> VarkOog, this is basically the process...using the xp disk http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134844&highlight=fixmbr
[12:18] <mustard5> VarkOog, there is not much to it really
[12:19] <Swiff> how to I get the path to mplayer??
[12:19] <VarkOog> thx mustard
[12:19] <theine> Swiff, which mplayer
[12:19] <jetscreamer> ok sudo nano -w /etc/fstab and comment out the knoppix partition reference, or make it noauto. then restart x and see if it works abhinav12383
[12:19] <VarkOog> do u know were i can find out how to set up my internet
[12:19] <jetscreamer> or just comment it out
[12:19] <mustard5> VarkOog, on ubuntu?
[12:19] <Swiff> I dunno
[12:19] <VarkOog> yip,
[12:19] <mustard5> VarkOog, what type of connection?
[12:20] <VarkOog> the main propblem is i connect trough a VPN
[12:20] <ubtest> knows anyone gnopernicus?
[12:20] <jetscreamer> !tldp
[12:20] <ubotu> http://tldp.org/ , the linux documentation project
[12:20] <theine> Swiff, "which mplayer" as a command in a terminal
[12:20] <Swiff> the about only talks bout the developers not mplayer version lol
[12:20] <mustard5> VarkOog, hmmm...not too sure about that....
[12:20] <abhinav12383> jetscreamer:thanks i wil try and tell u  in some time
[12:20] <Swiff> k
[12:20] <VarkOog> almost like wireless DSL
[12:20] <mustard5> VarkOog, I'll check the wiki, but I havent seen anything like that before
[12:20] <VarkOog> not really though
[12:20] <jetscreamer> abhinav12383: take your time, and know what you're doing, as well as how to undo it, before you do anything :)
[12:21] <VarkOog> thx again mustard
[12:21] <essi> Hey, I just installed xubuntu but can't see any shortcuts/dirs on the desktop.. how to get em back? (:
[12:21] <jetscreamer> it's sudo /etc/init.d/dm stop|start|restart btw
[12:21] <jetscreamer> ?dm
[12:22] <mustard5> VarkOog, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/mppeVPNhowto?highlight=%28vpn%29
[12:22] <mustard5> VarkOog, thats all I could find
[12:23] <mustard5> VarkOog, searching in the wiki using 'vpn' there are two other pages, which I have no idea how relevant they are
[12:23] <VarkOog> thx
[12:23] <VarkOog> i'll go check them out quick
[12:23] <mustard5> have fun people :)
[12:23] <VarkOog> enjoy mustard
[12:23] <mustard5> thanks
[12:24] <essi> Hey, I just installed xubuntu-desktop but can't see any shortcuts/dirs on the desktop.. how to get em back? (:
[12:24] <danboid> I thought my apt was up to date- obviously not! I've got compiz-gnome on now- very nice! I was hoping for an animation for minimizing/maximizing windows ala OSX tho- that was my fave bit of eye candy. I'm sure somebody will do such a plugin soon
[12:25] <ubtest> knows anyone gnopernicus?
[12:25] <danboid> I love the flexi moving windows mind
[12:28] <ubtest> i want to test gnopernicus with the ubuntu live cd. can anyone help me?
[12:29] <chaissebabe17> hi
[12:29] <chaissebabe17> hi
[12:30] <ubtest> chaissebabe17: hi
[12:31] <ubtest> i want to test gnopernicus with the ubuntu live cd. can anyone help me?
[12:32] <chaissebabe17> hi
[12:35] <ubtest> chaissebabe17: hi back
[12:36] <cryptrat> hallo zusamnne
[12:37] <narzy> wondering if you guys wouldn't mind helping out a bit
[12:37] <chaissebabe17> hi
[12:37] <narzy> hi chaissebabe17,
[12:38] <jllgnome> good day to you people
[12:39] <jllgnome> I'm having problems with ubuntu
[12:39] <narzy> I'm having problems printing.
[12:39] <essi> exit
[12:39] <jllgnome> it started last sunday, when the automagic updater updated something, kernel at least, and I suspect grub as well
[12:40] <mlopes> hi. where can I change the powersaving settings?
[12:40] <mlopes> for example, the time until the screen will reduce brightness
[12:40] <jllgnome> the machine starts to grub, and after a while I got help with it, so that I can now load the kernel
[12:41] <jllgnome> with the following sequence: root (hd0,0); kernel /boot/vmlinuz_version; initrd /boot/initrd_version; boot
[12:42] <jllgnome> it goes all well for a while, then I get the following
[12:42] <stivie> hi1
[12:43] <Cyorxamp> If I wanted to create a samba share on ubuntu - what programs does it come with to help me set that up?
[12:43] <canta> salut
[12:43] <jono_> hi all
[12:43] <jllgnome>  /scripts/local-top/evms: 31: /sbin/evems_activate: not found
[12:43] <canta> sa gaze
[12:43] <jono_> is there a way to run the dapper xgl debs on breezy?
[12:43] <Cyorxamp> salut?
[12:43] <jllgnome> Done.
[12:43] <canta> la forme
[12:43] <Cyorxamp> canta ?!
[12:43] <canta> uoi
[12:43] <jllgnome> ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[12:43] <jllgnome> and then it goes to BusyBox
[12:44] <canta> sa va cyorxamp
[12:44] <Cyorxamp> yeah nevermind
[12:44] <Cyorxamp> If I wanted to create a samba share on ubuntu - what programs does it come with to help me set that up?
[12:44] <canta> do you speak french
[12:45] <Syns> this is like the 3rd  time, it always fails
[12:45] <jllgnome> if anyone can help with that, I'd be more than happy
[12:45] <tristan> How can I convert a .mov to .avi or .mpg?
[12:46] <Syns> has anyone else had problems installing drapper?
[12:46] <foxpaul> hey all. i've got some trouble setting up a dns server. for some reason, i can ping out on the dns machine, but using that machines ip on other machines (in resolv.conf) doesnt let the others ping out
[12:46] <foxpaul> although i can ping the dns machine - does anyone have an idea what t look for?
[12:47] <tristan> !quicktime
[12:47] <ubotu> well, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[12:48] <thegladiator> to install an exe , just do wine *.exe ?
[12:48] <Syns> is that a no, or is everyone ignoring my question?
[12:48] <jllgnome> is there anyone who can help me?
[12:48] <thegladiator> ofcourse some had problem installing dapper
[12:48] <`Evil> hello i need help please with Xgl
[12:48] <thegladiator> its still beta
[12:48] <thegladiator> to install an exe , just do wine *.exe ?
[12:49] <Syns> every single time i try to install drapper it fails..
[12:49] <Syns> first it cant read cdrom or something..
[12:49] <p0windah> thegladiator : if I plug my usb camera into breezy my machine freezes - beat that
[12:49] <thegladiator> lol
[12:50] <thomasinocatizaz> join#java
[12:50] <boci^> Hi! I have ubuntu-server (PPC), but I not found rar in packages
[12:53] <NixNewb> Anyone alive?  I got a root issue.
[12:53] <triablo_> Hello,anybody know a good program fot tv tuners?
[12:54] <NixNewb> What is the Sudo command to change root password?
[12:54] <thegladiator> triablo_, mytv I guess
[12:54] <thegladiator> as for driver part I think bt878
[12:54] <thegladiator> someone told me this actually
[12:55] <thegladiator> maybe you shoulld figure it out
[12:55] <marseillai> hi
[12:55] <marseillai> i got a big problem :
[12:55] <marseillai> cyril@ubuntu1:~$ sudo kwrite /etc/sudoers
[12:55] <marseillai> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 23 <<<
[12:55] <marseillai> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 23
[12:55] <jllgnome> I have issues with booting, can anyone help me?
[12:55] <marseillai> how can i modify this file without root permission ?
[12:56] <damg> are dapper flight 4 bugs allowed on launchpad/bugzilla?
[12:56] <curley_sue> hi all - this should b an easy one - where can I learn about dbus?
[12:57] <ydo> my numpad stopped working when I upgraded to dapper, anyone know how to fix it?
[12:57] <axisys> NixNewb: sudo -s
[12:57] <axisys> NixNewb: passwd root
[12:57] <NixNewb> thx
[12:58] <axisys> marseillai: sudo -s
[12:58] <axisys> marseillai: visudo
[12:58] <marseillai> axisys: doesn't work
[12:58] <marseillai> same error
[12:58] <NixNewb> it worked!!!
[12:58] <marseillai> visudo
[12:58] <marseillai> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[12:58] <axisys> marseillai: sudo -s first
[12:58] <marseillai> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 23 <<<
[12:58] <marseillai> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 23
[12:58] <marseillai> idem ! :s
[12:58] <jetscreamer> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/
[12:58] <axisys> su -
[12:59] <axisys> marseillai: su -s
[12:59] <marseillai> cyril@ubuntu1:~$ su -
[12:59] <marseillai> Password:
[12:59] <marseillai> su : Authentication failure
[12:59] <marseillai> Dsol.
[12:59] <axisys> marseillai: it asks the root password
[12:59] <marseillai> i don't have root password :s
[12:59] <axisys> marseillai: i guess u dont have root password correct?
[12:59] <axisys> marseillai: ok .. u type fast :-)
[01:00] <axisys> marseillai: so `sudo -s' did not work correct?
[01:00] <marseillai> and i'm not english! ;)
[01:00] <marseillai> no it doesn't work
[01:00] <thegladiator> !wine
[01:01] <axisys> marseillai: when u type sudo -s .. it prompts for a password and u put your own password
[01:01] <p0windah> so whats the latest thing with breezy/xgl/compviz ?
[01:01] <axisys> marseillai: and then what does it say?
[01:01] <marseillai> axisys: yes
[01:01] <marseillai> sudo -s
[01:01] <marseillai> >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 23 <<<
[01:01] <marseillai> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 23
[01:01] <axisys> gotcha... hmm sudoers file got corrupted.. would u know how did that happen?
[01:01] <axisys> marseillai: does anyone else have access to the system?
[01:02] <marseillai> axisys: yes i know! i try to modifiate it following a tuto
[01:02] <marseillai> but it make this
[01:02] <marseillai> and now i can't correct
[01:02] <p0windah> let me guess... you didnt back it up before you started "hacking" ?
[01:02] <marseillai> p0windah: me ?
[01:02] <p0windah> yes, Mr Hacker
[01:02] <marseillai> yes i made a backup
[01:02] <axisys> marseillai: do u have a knoppix cd? or ubuntu live cd?
[01:02] <p0windah> so restore the backup
[01:03] <marseillai> sudoers~ is a backup
[01:03] <marseillai> p0windah: i can't i don't have permission
[01:03] <NixNewb> I changed my root password and tried to login to change user permissions.  I got an error saying I cant loginf rom that screen?!?
[01:03] <p0windah> su -
[01:03] <axisys> p0windah: he may not have priv any more to restore
[01:03] <marseillai> p0windah: i don't have root password
[01:03] <p0windah> boot using livecd
[01:03] <NixNewb> and does anyone know a website with sudo commands handy?
[01:04] <axisys> NixNewb: google sudo and the first link and the manual there or man sudo
[01:04] <topyli> marseillai: in the future, never edit the sudoers file directly. use visudo, because it checks for the file's sanity before saving it
[01:04] <marseillai> axisys: if  i launch a live cd and mount my partition how can i change the file ?
[01:04] <thegladiator> can someone help me with wine ?
[01:04] <NixNewb> thx again.
[01:04] <thegladiator> I have no clue about wine
[01:04] <axisys> marseillai: with live cd u r root
[01:04] <p0windah> marseillai: just mount the drive and change it back
[01:04] <NixNewb> btw, can u edit the script on irc?  like load own scripts and/or alias cmds?
[01:04] <marseillai> oki i'll do
[01:05] <marseillai> i come back after to tell you if it works...
[01:05] <axisys> NixNewb: i use irrsi and there u run this /help load
[01:05] <jessy> is it possible to use XGL/Compiz with still having gnome metacity theme ? (window borders)
[01:05] <axisys> NixNewb: it will give u some examples
[01:06] <p0windah> if you get it working, tell me how jessy
[01:06] <NixNewb> ok.
[01:06] <jessy> p0windah, now i'm under breezy and every works fine, so now i think everything is possible :)
[01:08] <p0windah> you mean you have compviz/xgl working already ?
[01:09] <memmy> hi
[01:09] <memmy> where in dapper is the hotplug firmware directory? i tried setting my ivtv firmware in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmrware/`uname -`/ but that din't work
[01:10] <we2by_> hello
[01:10] <we2by_> what app can I use to do math on Ubuntu?
[01:10] <we2by_> like solving differentiaal eq and plotting 3d things etc
[01:10] <argon> openoffice math...
[01:10] <argon> I guess
[01:12] <robbie_> libwine.so.1 is in /usr/local/lib, which is apparently not in my library search path because I got wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:12] <robbie_> .... how do I add it? I cant find ld.so.conf
[01:15] <axisys> robbie_: have u checked ldconfig?
[01:15] <robbie_> ldconfig runs with no output
[01:16] <peej> can anyone else reproduce a bug I am having with abiword in breezy? start abiword, insert->symbol->cursor   <barf>   ?
[01:17] <jessy> is there an application to make a video of what i get on my screen ?
[01:17] <axisys> robbie_: man ldconfig
[01:19] <narzy> I'm trying to install an HP Color LaserJet 1500 in ubuntu, anyone give me some direction as to where to go for a howto?
[01:20] <nandemonai> hi ppl
[01:20] <curley_sue> HELP something has changed in my desktop configuration - I no longer have my mounted dev (NFTS and FAT partitions + CDROM) nxt to Computer (under places menu), have to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' in order to restore them, why is that and what can be done? (didn manage through google)
[01:21] <curley_sue> narzy : have u tried under System menu  "Printers"?
[01:21] <eeaaxx> anybody knows how can i stop boot services?
[01:21] <narzy> yeah, and I've gone through and defined everything but it doesn't print.
[01:22] <nandemonai> I wondering if anyone knows what I should set in the monitor section of xorg for a standard TV via rca/composite out.. I have nvidia installed have run settings but nothing of TV (in nvidia-settings). I have output but as the monitor is setup as 'Default Monitor' The vert refresh is screwy
[01:22] <curley_sue> narzy: sorry cant really help (maybe you should try cups...)
[01:22] <nandemonai> Excuse the Speed typing ;)
[01:24] <lupz> hello
[01:24] <lupz> how i can i start network interfaces on boot ?
[01:25] <peej> lupz: should start automatically for a normal network. else there is a gui tool in adminstration somewhere so you can set your gateway etc
[01:26] <peej> can anyone else reproduce a bug I am having with abiword in breezy? start abiword, insert->symbol->cursor   <barf>   ?
[01:26] <peej> doesn't anyone have abiword?
[01:26] <lupz> peej: i'm on dhcp but until i don't do ---> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:26] <lupz> peej: it doesn't start
[01:27] <curley_sue> peej: I have abiword - explain again...
[01:27] <curley_sue> HELP something has changed in my desktop configuration - I no longer have my mounted dev (NFTS and FAT partitions + CDROM) nxt to Computer (under places menu), have to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' in order to restore them, why is that and what can be done? (didn manage through google)
[01:27] <peej> curley_sue : do you have breezy? If so start abiword. go to insert menu. choose symbol. choose cursor. Does it work fine ?
[01:29] <peej> lupz : it'll be under /etc/init.d/networking. Or you can have it run at an opportune time, eg when you get into x , but putting it into .xsession.
[01:31] <curley_sue> peej: using BREEZY, cursor adds nothing for me. symbols and some others work fine
[01:31] <eeaaxx> anbody knows how can i boot without X?
[01:31] <Seveas> eeaaxx, permanently or just once?
[01:31] <peej> lupz: oooh, wait a minute - you may wanna check /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools for its behaviour
[01:32] <eeaaxx> Seveas, just once
[01:32] <peej> curley_sue: ok thanks. It hangs on my system.
[01:32] <NixNewb> Everything is comming along great..  except now i would like to be able to access files on the other computer on the network..  i cant google anything good on that.
[01:32] <Seveas> eeaaxx, use the 'recovery mode' option
[01:32] <Seveas> in the boot menu
[01:32] <peej> curley_sue : probably 'cos gnome isn't there on my box.
[01:32] <lupz> peej: what ??
[01:32] <eeaaxx> Seveas, ok
[01:32] <eeaaxx> Seveas, how about permanent
[01:33] <curley_sue> peej:  your welcome... (i actually dont know what cursor is supposed to do)
[01:33] <kevor> hwo can i see what version i'm running?
[01:33] <peej> lupz: if you are using wireless that is.
[01:33] <Seveas> eeaaxx, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[01:33] <lupz> peej: i use a standard if
[01:33] <peej> curley_sue : hey, me neither. Cos it hangs ;-) . Actually it's probably a font selection.
[01:34] <eeaaxx> Seveas, like in fc4, just set the /etc/inittab to runnable 3, is there a way how can i changed in the /etc/inittab?
[01:34] <curley_sue> peej: why wont u use symbol?!
[01:34] <Seveas> eeaaxx, runlevels 2 through 5 are the same on Ubuntu
[01:34] <lupz> i should have a rc script to start networking ?
[01:34] <IdleOne> kevor: ls_release -d I believe
[01:34] <eeaaxx> Seveas, ok
[01:34] <Seveas> lupz, /etc/init.d/networking
[01:35] <curley_sue> HELP - cant configure a pdf printer + desktop problem (two different things...)
[01:35] <peej> lupz: does dmesg say anything interesting about network behaviour during boot? Just wondering why it would work when you tell it to do its stuff the second time (the first time it is told is during boot).
[01:35] <eeaaxx> Seveas, runlevels 2 - 5 are all X?
[01:35] <coffe2> hi all, somebody know wich pid is using each window? my gnome doesnt load!
[01:35] <kevor> IdleOne: lsb_release -d
[01:35] <IdleOne> there you go
[01:35] <IdleOne> ()
[01:35] <Seveas> eeaaxx, yup
[01:35] <lupz> Seveas: should it be linked in the rc[0-6] .d dirs ?
[01:35] <robbie_> whats the package for compatibility with gtk 1.2?
[01:35] <kevor> thanks
[01:36] <Seveas> lupz, man update-rc.d
[01:36] <lupz> peej: where i look for it ?
[01:36] <eeaaxx> Seveas, ok
[01:36] <lupz> Seveas: i know, but should it be linked there or not ?
[01:36] <curley_sue> coffe2: try "ps -ejH |less" to find out pid's
[01:36] <Seveas> lupz, iirc just rcS.d for this one
[01:36] <coffe2> okz
[01:36] <lupz> Seveas: i know the infamous update-rc.d :D
[01:36] <lupz> Seveas: thanks :)
[01:37] <peej> lupz : for dmesg (which tells you boot messages ) just type dmesg in xterm, see what it says about networking
[01:37] <IdleOne> kevor:  -a option will give release number and a little more info
[01:37] <Seveas> /etc/rc0.d/S35networking
[01:37] <Seveas> /etc/rc6.d/S35networking
[01:37] <Seveas> /etc/rcS.d/S40networking
[01:37] <curley_sue> coffe2: have you tried to simply restart GNOME?
[01:37] <Seveas> ^-- lupz
[01:37] <curley_sue> HELP - cant configure a pdf printer + desktop problem (two different things...)
[01:38] <kevor> IdleOne: thanks ,that's what i needed
[01:38] <lupz> Seveas: i'm on dapper and i've it only on rcS
[01:38] <peej> lupz: before you touch /etc/init.d/networking, make a copy of it, then maybe use ifconfig incantation instead of ifup incantation. ifup has been screwy for me in the past.
[01:38] <IdleOne> kevor:  np
[01:38] <lupz> Seveas: anyway i don't understand do you start ifs on reboot and halt :D
[01:38] <Goshawk> what about help on dapper? (it not really an helping request, it's a mistake about the broadcom wireless cards support)
[01:38] <lupz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2006-02-19 18:19 /etc/rc0.d/S35networking -> ../init.d/networking
[01:38] <lupz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2006-02-19 18:19 /etc/rc6.d/S35networking -> ../init.d/networking
[01:38] <lupz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2006-02-19 18:19 /etc/rcS.d/S50networking -> ../init.d/networking
[01:39] <Seveas> Goshawk, #ubuntu+1 is dedicated to dapper
[01:39] <Seveas> lupz, read the script 
[01:39] <jllgnome> is there any helper around?
[01:39] <peej> lupz: or you can just let it be, and run the /etc/init.d/networking up command via .xsession file if you always go into x before doing anything.
[01:39] <lupz> peej: well not..
[01:39] <Goshawk> thanks Seveas
[01:39] <idefix_> can you simply execute exe-files made for windows in linux?
[01:40] <idefix_> I hope my question isn't stupid
[01:40] <peej> lupz?
[01:40] <lupz> i think that when i log in in x the network (priority 50) isn't standard
[01:40] <lupz> s/standard/started
[01:40] <idefix_> you can't, can you?
[01:40] <IdleOne> idefix_:  no stupid questions and you need to run wine or cedga
[01:40] <coffe2> 10 points for idefix, auto-response
[01:40] <lupz> peej: i don't log in everytime
[01:40] <peej> lupz: howabout pasting your dmesg?
[01:40] <lupz> ok
[01:40] <IdleOne> !tell idefix_  about wine
[01:40] <lupz> wait
[01:40] <peej> lupz: in pastebin!
[01:41] <lupz> eheheh
[01:41] <lupz> i supposed so :D
[01:41] <NixNewb> tell me about wine too
[01:41] <NixNewb> ...please.
[01:41] <IdleOne> !wine
[01:41] <NixNewb> !tell nixnewb about wine
[01:42] <IdleOne> idefix_:  I meant there are no stupid questions :-)
[01:42] <lupz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/iRvUaC52.html
[01:42] <peej> IdleOne: is this a stupid question?
[01:43] <hit> how to add chinese language to acroreader?
[01:43] <IdleOne> peej:  only if you dont understand it :P
[01:43] <curley_sue> H E L P - cant configure a pdf printer + a desktop problem (two different things...)
[01:43] <IdleOne> curley_sue:  pick one problem and give more specific info on the problem
[01:45] <pl_ice> hi :)
[01:45] <curley_sue> IdleOne: can configure a PDF printer - I tried through System -> Administration -> Printers (BREEZY GNOME) and I get no result uppon printing...
[01:45] <jllgnome> can someone help me?
[01:46] <jllgnome> i have problems with booting
[01:46] <NixNewb> how do i get my ip and subnet info?
[01:46] <IdleOne> NixNewb:  ifconfig in terminal
[01:46] <peej> lupz: looks to me like eth0 starts up fine. Check by running /sbin/ifconfig - if you get something there, your card is up.
[01:46] <NixNewb> thx.
[01:47] <idefix_> when you make some executable file for linux does it have extension jnlp?
[01:47] <peej> lupz: then it may be a config problem, which the net restart fixes.
[01:47] <curley_sue> IdleOne: same for a PS printer - result is achieved only if I use print to file option
[01:47] <lupz> peej: the problem is actually that seems that resolv.conf doesn't get correctly updated
[01:47] <jllgnome> please? :(
[01:47] <IdleOne> jllgnome:  state what problem you are having and someone will try to help if they can
[01:47] <idefix_> ubotu doesn't know it!
[01:47] <ubotu> idefix_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:48] <jllgnome> okay, I updated the system with automatic updater
[01:48] <pl_ice> u guys seen some free ssh accounts ? :)
[01:48] <curley_sue> IdleOne: the main problem is that I can never get anything to print (not even to  a "real" printer)
[01:48] <jllgnome> and after that, the machinestarts only to grub console
[01:48] <peej> lupz: eh? can you ping a numbered ip address fine after boot, before netrestart?
[01:48] <IdleOne> !printing
[01:48] <ubotu> printing is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[01:48] <IdleOne> try that link curley_sue
[01:48] <jllgnome> after a bit searching, I got it to load kernel, and start the boot
[01:49] <lupz> peej: i don't remember but i think so
[01:49] <jllgnome> but it ends to some problem rgarding evms
[01:49] <peej> lupz: check that. If that is true, then resolv.conf needs a fix. Did you fiddle around with it earlier?
[01:49] <jllgnome> and drops to busyBox
[01:49] <lupz> peej: no i haven't touched it
[01:49] <pl_ice> jllgnome can u copy the error message into pastebin somehow? ...
[01:49] <lupz> wait i reboot so i can tell
[01:50] <jllgnome> pl_ice, what do you mean?
[01:50] <jllgnome> I'm not currently at my computer, since it's about useless
[01:50] <fishdish> hi guys
[01:50] <fishdish> i have a problem with grub
[01:50] <jllgnome> but, the error to whih it stops comes here
[01:50] <pl_ice> jllgnome we need to know exactly what it says bout this error
[01:50] <curley_sue> IdleOne, ubotu : tried them both b4...
[01:51] <fishdish> i'm trying to install a linux on compaq evo
[01:51] <pl_ice> search in logs ...
[01:51] <fishdish> ok, ubuntu "installs" correctly
[01:51] <jllgnome>  /scripts/local-top/evms: 31: /sbin/evems_activate: not found
[01:51] <jllgnome> Done.
[01:51] <jllgnome> ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell
[01:51] <fishdish> but, when after installation i restart, the computer wouldn't start GRUB at all
[01:51] <IdleOne> curley_sue: best i can do sorry. I havent configured a printer yet
[01:51] <peej> jllgnome: the simplest way to fix it would be to remove the new kernel it was install, fall back to the old one.
[01:51] <jllgnome> and then it goes to busyBox
[01:51] <fishdish> i waited for half an hour for GRUB to start
[01:52] <fishdish> and rebooting does not help
[01:52] <fishdish> what is the problem?
[01:52] <curley_sue> ubotu: any idea?
[01:52] <ubotu> Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of string, a little WD-40, and a dozen starving oxen. And keep the FBI off my back!
[01:52] <IdleOne> lmao
[01:52] <peej> jllgnome: so in busybox, you'd um...argh. I think you'd be best of using the live cd to ulp....can't think of a quick fix, though I know the issue here.
[01:52] <pl_ice> jllgnome search on google for the begining line, comes out that there is a buq
[01:52] <curley_sue> IdleOne: 2nd - something has changed in my desktop configuration - I no longer have my mounted dev (NFTS and FAT partitions + CDROM) nxt to Computer (under places menu), have to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' in order to restore them, why is that and what can be done? (didn manage through google)
[01:53] <jllgnome> I checked with the grub console (since I have to manually load kernel etc) there's two versions of the kernel, something-9-389 and something-10-386
[01:53] <jllgnome> and I've loaded the 9
[01:53] <co-smuda> aloW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:53] <peej> jllgnome : basically, you'd have to fix grub.lst probably to point to old kernel.
[01:53] <jllgnome> how do I do that?
[01:54] <peej> jllgnome: dunno. I'm not grub guy, so I'll probably mess it up by guessing remotely like this. Ask someone who knnows.
[01:54] <jllgnome> :)
[01:55] <IdleOne> !ntfs
[01:55] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:55] <IdleOne> !tell curley_sue  about ntfs
[01:55] <pl_ice> jllgnome not sure if ubuntu leaves old kernel behind ... ;)
[01:55] <hit> how to make acroreader support chinese?
[01:55] <peej> jllgnome : yeah, better check that
[01:55] <jllgnome> pl_ice, what do you mean with beginnig line and searching that on google? what should I search, the error or what?
[01:56] <irv10tz> hey need help here.. why does the sound doesn't work when i play a video on the net... im sure it is unmuted...................
[01:56] <pl_ice> jllgnome there are buq reports on this on ubuntu and debian, i'm just reading them now
[01:56] <hatake_kakashi> I think ubuntu does leave old kernel behind, but if you think you are fine without it, I think you can remove it
[01:56] <pl_ice> just do a search on google
[01:56] <jllgnome> pl_ice, and as I said, there's two versions of the kernel file or something, something-9 and something-10
[01:56] <peej> jllgnome : maybe best to ask a local linux geek to help fix it - feed him lots of pizza, he'll have it fixed within 5 mins.
[01:57] <IdleOne> lol peej
[01:57] <irv10tz> hey need help here.. why does the sound doesn't work when i play a video on the net... im sure it is unmuted...................
[01:57] <IdleOne> and coffee
[01:57] <pl_ice> jllgnome paste the grub to pastebin( hope u know what pastebin is)
[01:57] <peej> IdleOne : it's true! Will work for pizza!
[01:57] <jllgnome> bad thing is, I'm the local linux geek... none o my freds has it :P
[01:57] <defrysk> !xgl
[01:57] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:57] <jllgnome> pl_ice, I don't :(
[01:57] <hatake_kakashi> jllgnome: you're not the only one :)
[01:57] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:57] <irv10tz> hey need help here.. why does the sound doesn't work when i play a video on the net... im sure it is unmuted...................
[01:57] <peej> jllgnome: well, if you come through this ordeal, and it doesn't killyou, you'll be stronger. Oh yes.
[01:58] <IdleOne> irv10tz:  stop repeating and wait a couple minutes someone may help
[01:58] <jllgnome> main prblem is that I'm not at my computer right now, although I think I have all the necessary info writen on paper
[01:59] <IdleOne> jllgnome:  did the install fiinish properly?
[01:59] <henk> hi i'm looking for a good graphical newsreader that supports threaded display
[01:59] <peej> henk: doesn't pan do that?
[01:59] <IdleOne> mahangu__:  liked your article on Shuttleworth ()
[01:59] <jllgnome> IdleOne, yes, I've been using Ubuntu about hafa year now
[02:00] <jllgnome> half a year
[02:00] <jllgnome> man this keyboard sucks
[02:00] <mahangu__> IdleOne, let's take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:00] <IdleOne> mahangu__:  thats all I was going to say on it
[02:00] <idefix_> how can you ever trust linux? when you send messages from some website it indicates read/unread, but for instance the message "user has closed the dialog window" often isn't true :(
[02:00] <pl_ice> jllgnome if u have 2 krenels they will jump out on the grub and u can move arrow between, if not press i think e
[02:01] <jllgnome> pl_ice, no
[02:03] <pl_ice> jllgnome well i just updated kernel as well and i got revovery kernel, standard and an old one in the grub menu.lst
[02:03] <henk> idefix_, what?
[02:03] <idefix_> in GAIM, when the message "user has closed the dialog window" appears often the user hasn't done anything, at least they all say so
[02:03] <jllgnome> pl_ice, uhm.. what do you mean?
[02:04] <trackium> hi
[02:04] <djp> how do i get an icon to display a still from the movie/video? what i mean is, i have several .avi, .ogm files that when i open nautlius, create still images. however one file has just stayed as a normal .avi icon. i know it can generate a still image, as it has done in the past. any ideas how i get it to 'sort itself out'? ;)
[02:04] <idefix_> henk!
[02:04] <idefix_> henk?
[02:05] <henk> idefix_, hmm i think the trust issue you're dealing with is with the people in your contact list not with linux
[02:05] <foxpaul> does anyone have an idea why exim isn't sending its mail out immediately?
[02:05] <foxpaul> i can only send it it i run exim -qf
[02:06] <IdleOne> foxpaul:  I dont use exim but Im guessing its a setting you need to change for it to send immediately
[02:06] <jllgnome> here's the link to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9169
[02:06] <henk> foxpaul, do you have an exim deamon running ? try ps waux|grep exim ... you should have a -bd running
[02:07] <trackium> sorry, i wonder if anyone has experienced that : when i make an "export" in a soft terminal window, this one is save, but only in this terminal, and only during the terminal session.When I close the terminal, the environnement variable vanishes !
[02:07] <foxpaul> henk,  i have exim running -db q30m
[02:07] <curley_sue> IdleOne: in gnome2 (BREEZY) there a "places" menu where used to appear all my mounted dev (NTFS,FAT32,CDROM). it does not any longer
[02:08] <Lorvija> hey.. where's the installation guide for ubuntu? (:
[02:08] <IdleOne> !install
[02:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:08] <henk> foxpaul, hmm do the logs say anything about it ? have you tried other recipients on other domains ?
[02:08] <Lorvija> IdleOne ty
[02:09] <henk> trackium, you may want to use .bash_profile
[02:09] <jllgnome> pl_ice, the pastebin link's here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9169
[02:09] <jllgnome> sorry, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9170
[02:09] <trackium> henk, what is this file ?
[02:10] <cas> curley_sue, is it possible you deleted the "Menu bar" from your panel?
[02:10] <trackium> henk, and where ?
[02:10] <RaIcHu> Hullow the people !
[02:10] <henk> trackium, it allows you to run stuff before bash is executed. so this is a good place to set variables, aliasses etc you want each time you log in
[02:10] <foxpaul> henk, each message has something like:  no immediate delivery: load average 9.01
[02:10] <trackium> henk, cool thanks
[02:11] <henk> trackium, try ~/.bash_profile    (~ refers to your homedir)
[02:11] <foxpaul> in the logs
[02:11] <NixNewb> i have a partition that is ntfs on this drive as well. how do i access it?  do i need to terminal     mount?
[02:11] <_jason> henk: I don't think ~/.bash_profile gets sourced when you log into gnome, at least it didn't for me.  I had to source it in ~/.gnomerc
[02:11] <djp> anyone know how to regenerate icons in nautilus?
[02:11] <henk> foxpaul, maybe exim is wwaiting for your system to be less busy ?
[02:11] <foxpaul> henk, shouldn't be under any load really
[02:11] <henk> _jason, i thought he specificaly mentioned a terminal session
[02:12] <pl_ice> jllgnome is that the extract from /boot/grub/menu.lst doesnt look like ...
[02:12] <henk> foxpaul, what does 'uptime' tell you ?
[02:12] <curley_sue> cas: i don't think so - how do I check that? (I have Places, Application and System in my panel)
[02:12] <jllgnome> no it's not, but I can't access that file in question :(
[02:12] <_jason> henk: ah ok, just joined.  sorry for the confusion
[02:12] <trackium> henk, i guess a reboot is needed of course
[02:12] <henk> _jason, sure no problem
[02:12] <foxpaul> henk,   1:12pm  up 22 days 20:10,  11 users,  load average: 9.95, 9.44, 7.84
[02:13] <henk> trackium, no you just need to open a new terminal
[02:13] <jllgnome> pl_ice, I didn't understand that that was what you ased for
[02:13] <cas> curley_sue, then I misunderstooth you, I thought the whole Places button was gone. The Places->Computer should show a windows with all your mounted devices
[02:13] <Lorvija> hey.. I'm gonna install ubuntu as dualboot on this computer on another disk than windows is.. however I did it once with gentoo and succeeded to trash my windows installation ( couldnt boot)... is ubuntu install wise enough not to fuck up the boot so that i can boot into both OS's?
[02:13] <henk> trackium, a reboot is not needed much in linux, only for some kernel issues or in the very unlikely event of an unstable system
[02:14] <djp> how do i get nautilus to regenrate an icon image? one of my .avi files has failed to create a still image as an icon for itself and still displays the bog standard .avi icon.
[02:14] <pl_ice> jllgnome can u provide the file that its in : /boot/grub/menu.lst as this what have u pasted looks like its missing info
[02:15] <trackium> henk, ok thx... but the export command has no utility ?
[02:15] <jllgnome> pl_ice, well how can I access it from either the busybox or from the grub console? I don't have any boot disks, so my own computer is pretty much useless right now
[02:15] <henk> trackium, i do not understand
[02:15] <curley_sue> cas: exactly my point! it does not show them as it used to. I can run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' which restores them but I dont really know what went wrong and I guess this is not the way to fix that!
[02:16] <pl_ice> jllgnome have u tried in gnome accessing the main menu? u can mock around there, not sure but i think u can mount hdd from ur busybox
[02:17] <trackium> henk, if an export can only register a variable for a terminal session, nobody will use it ?
[02:17] <jllgnome> pl_ice,  agh, the problem is that the machine does not finish the boot, so I can't get to gnome either.if I could, there'd be no problem
[02:17] <curley_sue> Lorvija: it worked for me - first installed XP in first partition then insatlled Ubuntu Breezy
[02:17] <NixNewb> how do i access my other hardrive that is ntfs?
[02:17] <jllgnome> pl_ice, I'm not at my own computer right now
[02:17] <ubtest> i want to test gnopernicus on the ubuntu live cd. can anyone help me?
[02:18] <Lorvija> curley_sue okay (: any extra steps?
[02:18] <cas> curley_sue, hmm try reinstalling dbus, also take a look if it really start on boot
[02:18] <curley_sue> Lorvija: (I actually had another "neutral" FAT32 partition b4 installing ubuntu
[02:19] <curley_sue> cas: how is that done? I tried to figure out what dbus was doing and I didn really understand... (newbie...)
[02:19] <pl_ice> jllgnome just try when u get home etc, mock around with grub menu
[02:19] <curley_sue> Lorvija: How can I help?
[02:19] <Lorvija> curley_sue just asking beforehand.. (: gonna buy new disk & install it then
[02:19] <pl_ice> guys, anyone uses lm sensors to get the temp. etc of motherboard?
[02:19] <jllgnome> pl_ice, how do I do that, since there's no visible menu anywhere?
[02:20] <Lorvija> installed it to sisters laptop couple months ago... and ubuntu definately seems attracting..
[02:20] <Lorvija> especially xubuntu (:
[02:20] <cas> curley_sue, `sudo apt-get install --reinstall dbus`
[02:20] <pl_ice> jllgnome just hit esc button, it should say loading grub... smoething like that
[02:21] <action09> hi , i'm searching actually in forums but anybody knows if there's a quick way to associate .csv files to open with oocalc2  please ?
[02:21] <action09> it's be nice becaus i risk to become mentally insane
[02:21] <jllgnome> pl_ice, okay, I'll try that... I'm pretty tired of trying to get it work, so I'll propably reinstall the whole thing if I can't get it to work :P
[02:21] <curley_sue> Lorvija: great! I didn't really understand what would u like to know...
[02:21] <trackium> henk, the solution doesn't work... even when i set my variable in bash_profile, there are not accessible in any terminal !
[02:22] <jllgnome> pl_ice, thanks for helping :)
[02:22] <pl_ice> jllgnome don't worry if u have to re-install ;) i'm just trying to install unix for xxth time :P
[02:22] <trackium> henk, they are not... sorry
[02:22] <B_166-ER-X> configure: error: *** Requested 'libglade-2.0 >= 2.4.0' but version of Libglade is 2.0.0
[02:22] <Lorvija> curley_sue just wanted to make sure if the installer is sensible(can detect windows etc..) (:
[02:22] <curley_sue> cas: thanx, I try that. what dbus does?
[02:22] <B_166-ER-X> they want a newer version ???
[02:22] <mandavi> hi, how can i empty the apt-get cache?
[02:23] <Lorvija> curley_sue as last time it did take LONG time to fix things.. so i'd like to do it right in the first place :P
[02:23] <jllgnome> pl_ice, I'm not too worried, only thing that bugs me is the all the files I havent backed up :P
[02:23] <_jason> mandavi: sudo apt-get clean
[02:23] <cas> curley_sue, it's a method for packages to talk to each other.
[02:23] <mandavi> _jason: thanks
[02:23] <pl_ice> jllgnome run a liveCD, eg knoppix , then u can back it up,no probs with that
[02:23] <cas> curley_sue, I don't know exactly what your problem is with it, but you need it for sure
[02:24] <pl_ice> B_166-ER-X yeh, they want newer libglade
[02:24] <cas> curley_sue, maybe somehting with gnome->hal communications
[02:26] <curley_sue> Lorvija: well, like I said - I had a clean installation of XP after I devided my HD to 3 partitions (1st for XP; 2sd as FAT32 - a neutral one since I don't want windows to "see" linux and I don't want linux to mess with the XP; and 3rd an untouched partition for ubuntu)
[02:26] <niedziel> elo
[02:26] <help-me-pls> i need some help guys
[02:26] <niedziel> suck my dick
[02:26] <niedziel> and kiss my ass
[02:26] <curley_sue> Lorvija: first install XP, then ubuntu (it worked fine for me both with Breezy and Hoary)
[02:26] <niedziel> ;d
[02:26] <Lorvija> curley_sue okay, i guess it's a bit easier for me as i'll have whole hd for ubuntu
[02:27] <Lorvija> curley_sue thanks for help =)
[02:27] <pl_ice> niedziel zamknij sie
[02:27] <help-me-pls> i was doing my thing in ubuntu,, then suddenly everything stoped working.. i had to press on power button... when i then tryed to boot up.. i got bootdisk faliur..
[02:28] <trackium> henk, are U here ?
[02:28] <help-me-pls> i dont know what to to
[02:28] <help-me-pls> *do
[02:28] <curley_sue> Lorvija: no problem!
[02:28] <help-me-pls> i checked with fdsik.. everything looks ok
[02:29] <help-me-pls> but for some reasom.. i get bootdisk faliure
[02:29] <curley_sue> Lorvija: my consilation is to mount the XP partition as read only (that's what I have the fat for...)
[02:29] <help-me-pls> when i try to boot up
[02:29] <cas> help-me-pls, that sounds serious. You can boot with a bootdisk i presume?
[02:29] <help-me-pls> cas im using the live cd now
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> help-me-pls: where did it stop at?
[02:30] <cas> help-me-pls, but your grub bootmanager isn't starting on boot?
[02:30] <samitheberber> Hi! Is that normal, when my ubuntu installation freeze in base system installation with 65% (configurating lvm2) ?
[02:30] <Lorvija> curley_sue yep, though i'll propably use ubuntu just to play with it etc so i propably wont even mount my windows partitions.. (:
[02:30] <help-me-pls> cas correct
[02:30] <help-me-pls> hatake_kakashi,  when i was listning to music
[02:30] <pl_ice> samitheberber no ...my didn't
[02:30] <wvelez> Hi...Im running ubuntu 5.10...vmware workstation 5 (windowsxp)...how can I get files into the xp vmware virtual machine? thanks
[02:30] <AnsiC> hello
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> help-me-pls: I mean on the screen, how can you listen music whilst installing?
[02:31] <samitheberber> pl_ice: how long takes it, because I think it freezes :S
[02:31] <AnsiC> for use bluetooth and send file from pc to my telefon
[02:31] <trackium> Is there anyone who can explain me how to use the "export" comand ???
[02:31] <AnsiC> i need install more?
[02:31] <help-me-pls> hatake_kakashi,  i already got it installed
[02:31] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-bluetooth obexftp obexserver bluez-utils
[02:31] <curley_sue> cas: I restarting to see if it works, thanx again!
[02:31] <help-me-pls> cas i tryed to run grub-install /dev/hda
[02:31] <help-me-pls> but didnt work..
[02:32] <help-me-pls> no errors tho
[02:32] <hatake_kakashi> help-me-pls: ahh I misread, I presume you did not mess around with the boot loader? or /boot files?
[02:32] <help-me-pls> but when i rebooted.. same error message
[02:32] <help-me-pls> hatake_kakashi, no
[02:32] <help-me-pls> i havent changed anything of that
[02:32] <pl_ice> samitheberber maybe 40 minutes for me
[02:33] <trackium> please.... the problem is that i can't use environment variables !
[02:33] <help-me-pls> man this suxz
[02:33] <_jason> trackium: export $FOO=bar
[02:33] <samitheberber> pl_ice: ok
[02:33] <_jason> oops
[02:33] <_jason> trackium: export FOO=bar
[02:33] <cas> help-me-pls, just a shot in the dark. Is your cpu time b0rked? It could be possible your bios is resetted (empty battery) and your bootorder is messed up
[02:33] <ufo> help-me-pls: did you check the boot flag with your fdisk
[02:33] <trackium> _jason, yes i know but it only works for a small time
[02:33] <AnsiC> there is a good page about bluetooth
[02:34] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: what error are you getting ?
[02:34] <AnsiC> all page that i saw using google was bad
[02:34] <_jason> trackium: it works as long as you use that terminal
[02:34] <AnsiC> and help me nothing
[02:34] <help-me-pls> LinuxJones, bootdisk Faliur
[02:34] <help-me-pls> cas my cpu is fine
[02:34] <help-me-pls> ufo, no
[02:34] <cas> help-me-pls, sorry i ment time
[02:34] <_jason> trackium: put it in ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile depending on what you are doing
[02:34] <trackium> _jason, i want to export an environment variable that will stay even after a reboot
[02:34] <cas> help-me-pls, your cpu time
[02:34] <ufo> help-me-pls: and check your grub install
[02:34] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: do what ufo says and set the bootable partition.
[02:35] <trackium> _jason, i'm installing a small programm which need these variables
[02:35] <help-me-pls> omg.. now i get this mesage when i try to fdisk /dev/hda
[02:35] <help-me-pls> unable to open hda
[02:35] <help-me-pls> omg
[02:35] <help-me-pls> is my hd fired
[02:35] <trackium> _jason, i've just tried to put it in .bash_profile, but i've got no results
[02:36] <_jason> trackium: you want it to work in gnome or outside?
[02:36] <ompaul> help-me-pls, did you sudo fdisk?
[02:36] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-bluetooth obexftp obexserver bluez-utils
[02:36] <AnsiC> /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart
[02:36] <AnsiC> # hidd --search    Searching ...  No devices in range or visible
[02:36] <Crusad0r> Hello
[02:36] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: do you have a livecd ?
[02:36] <AnsiC> pleseeee
[02:36] <help-me-pls> LinuxJones, im running it now
[02:36] <help-me-pls> brbr i\ll be back.. dinner time
[02:36] <ufo> help-me-pls: power down for a few minits and check the bios
[02:36] <trackium> _jason, i think in gnome will be enough
[02:36] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: what version of Ubuntu did you install ?
[02:36] <Crusad0r> I've got something strange about timestamp when using kopete on ubuntu. Can someone help me ?
[02:36] <ompaul> AnsiC, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for that kind of data
[02:36] <_jason> trackium: make a file called ~/.gnomerc and put this in it: [ -r ~/.bash_profile ]  && . ~/.bash_profile
[02:37] <_jason> trackium: and as long as you did the export right in ~/.bash_profile that will work
[02:37] <trackium> _jason, i try... thx
[02:38] <StyXman> hi all. anyone knows the kernel module i should use with this ide: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100?
[02:39] <SirKillalot>  can I update my ubuntu breezy to dapper by just adding the new apt sources?
[02:40] <novasilver> bluber1ng
[02:40] <Seveas> SirKillalot, yes, but be prepared to meet errors
[02:41] <SirKillalot> i mean when dapper final is out :)
[02:41] <StyXman> SirKillalot: you better *replace* the current sources
[02:41] <trackium> _jason, what is a right export to put in .bash_profile please ?
[02:41] <SirKillalot> yea
[02:41] <_jason> trackium: export FOO=bar
[02:41] <SirKillalot> so I wont have to kick my old system and install the new from scratch
[02:41] <StyXman> SirKillalot: nop-e
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> I've been getting to linux alot lately this past month (namely Ubuntu)... just been trying to use debian but finding alot of it manual work which (personally) I find dumb.  I don't really like things like Xandros/Linspire as they really do hide alot of technical options - Ubuntu is very nice too but I not much for how it won't let you select what you want installed when you install Ubuntu -   Is there a nice linux OS tha
[02:42] <Seveas> SirKillalot, when dapper is out there will be a separate tool to guide you in the upgrading.
[02:42] <Seveas> SirKillalot, which basically does what you described and catches a few common errors
[02:42] <StyXman> SirKillalot: if you uninstaled (k)ubuntu-desktop, just reinstall it again
[02:42] <jetscreamer> try using dselect Cyorxamp
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> Does that make sense?
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> dselect? that a distro?
[02:42] <StyXman> Seveas: ow, how nice!
[02:42] <trackium> _jason, it doesn't work...
[02:42] <jetscreamer> !info dselect
[02:42] <ubotu> dselect: (a user tool to manage Debian packages), section base, is standard. Version: 1.13.10ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 114 kB, Installed size: 408 kB
[02:43] <jetscreamer> install what you want
[02:43] <jetscreamer> take out what you don
[02:43] <jetscreamer> t
[02:43] <_jason> trackium: paste what your export command looks like
[02:43] <Cyorxamp> How on earth is that ran when I am installing !!!?
[02:43] <curley_sue> !info dbus
[02:43] <ubotu> dbus: (simple interprocess messaging system), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.36.2-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 275 kB, Installed size: 600 kB
[02:43] <StyXman> Cyorxamp: your text got cut: `Is there a nice linux OS tha <-- there
[02:43] <Cyorxamp> '''  that isnt as manual as debian but not as simple as xandros that isnt ubuntu?  ''''
[02:43] <jetscreamer> don't do the tasksel/base-config, aka configure apt-sources
[02:43] <curley_sue> !tell me about dbus
[02:43] <jetscreamer> or whatever the ubuntu way is
[02:44] <kk_> how do I exit the 'man' command?
[02:44] <trackium> _jason, in a terminal i write : export DRQUEUE_MASTER="localhost"
[02:44] <IdleOne> Cyorxamp:  its called Windoes
[02:44] <pl_ice> StyXman This Intel chipset uses the e1000 module, i think that one, just searched on google
[02:44] <jetscreamer> curley_sue: 2 lines above when you parted the last time
[02:44] <we2by_> hello
[02:44] <jetscreamer> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/
[02:44] <trackium> _jason, in the bash_profile i've tested many ways... but none of them works
[02:44] <we2by_> what tool can I use to keep track of my total data transfer??
[02:44] <StyXman> Cyorxamp: I *shouldn't* say thism, but matbe the answer you search for is Mandriva
[02:44] <Crusad0r> No one can help me with kopete
[02:44] <_jason> trackium: did you put what I told you in .gnomerc and keep that line in ~/.bash_profile?
[02:44] <curley_sue> cas: r u still here?
[02:44] <StyXman> pl_ice: thet's a nic module, I guess?
[02:45] <Cyorxamp> StyXman - I investigated that alot - in the end I went for Ubuntu
[02:45] <Cyorxamp> StyXman - is it debian based?
[02:45] <StyXman> Cyorxamp: mandriva? no, ubuntu? yes
[02:45] <trackium> _jason, yes i've put the line in .gnomerc
[02:45] <help-me-pls> LinuxJones breezer
[02:45] <pl_ice> StyXman /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.ELsmp/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.o that only info i have found :)
[02:45] <cas> curley_sue, yup, no luck?
[02:45] <Cyorxamp> Hmmm if I go with Mandriva it may as well be Fedora
[02:46] <StyXman> pl_ice: that? a nic driver. I need the ide one
[02:46] <help-me-pls> ufo the boot flag is set to hda1
[02:46] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: is it a fresh install ?
[02:46] <help-me-pls> no
[02:46] <_jason> trackium: erm that should work afaik
[02:46] <help-me-pls> i have had it installed 3 weeks
[02:46] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: are you dual booting with windows or some other os ?
[02:46] <help-me-pls> no i dont have windows
[02:46] <StyXman> we2by_: mrtg?
[02:47] <jetscreamer> kk q
[02:47] <curley_sue> cas: nope! but when i do it through synaptic I receive: : python2.4-sip4-qt3: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: python2.4-qt3: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: python2.4-kde3: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: python-kde3: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: kde-guidance: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: kubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <ufo> help-me-pls: is your boot directory on that partition
[02:47] <StyXman> aghgh
[02:47] <help-me-pls> yes
[02:47] <help-me-pls> its on hda1
[02:47] <_jason> trackium: look at /etc/login.defs I guess
[02:47] <cas> curley_sue, never paste in channels like this, next time use pastebin
[02:47] <help-me-pls> but why did it suddely stop working_
[02:47] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: it's probably faster just to put the install cd back in and do a fresh install. You could spend days messing about trying to get your problem fixed.
[02:47] <ufo> help-me-pls: try grub-install (
[02:48] <StyXman> !tell curley_sue about pastebin
[02:48] <help-me-pls> ufo tryed that
[02:48] <help-me-pls> grub-install /dev/hda
[02:48] <help-me-pls> not good
[02:48] <ufo> help-me-pls: grub-install /dev/hda
[02:48] <curley_sue> cas: how do I make sure that dbus runs when restarts (when should i use pastebin?)
[02:48] <cas> curley_sue, doesn't sound good.  first make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is correct
[02:48] <ufo> help-me-pls: check your bios boot
[02:48] <help-me-pls> its set to hardisks
[02:48] <cas> curley_sue, then update and see if you have broken packages
[02:49] <cas> curley_sue, you can see that in synaptics
[02:49] <pl_ice> StyXman google for that nick module, quite a bit of info, i'm off to bed :)
[02:49] <help-me-pls> i havent done anything.. so i dont understand why suddely things got screwed up
[02:49] <ufo> help-me-pls: do you have more than one hard disk on your computer
[02:49] <help-me-pls> ufo, yes 2
[02:49] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: is your hard drive making any odd noises like clicking sounds ?
[02:50] <help-me-pls> in biso its set to hd0 to boot up
[02:50] <help-me-pls> LinuxJones, no
[02:50] <cas> curley_sue, use pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/) if you wanna paste more then two rules
[02:50] <StyXman> pl_ice: k, tx
[02:50] <trackium> _jason, i just see the PATH definition in this file
[02:50] <pl_ice> g'night
[02:50] <help-me-pls> i got hacked >( ? why else should it stop working
[02:51] <trackium> _jason, nothing very interesting
[02:51] <_jason> trackium: yeah, I figure you can probably define your variable there too, I don't know the ``right'' way to do it (since the first way I said didn't work)
[02:51] <Juhaz> help-me-pls, hard drives fail all the time without any external help
[02:51] <trackium> _jason, i can try...
[02:51] <ubuntu_> I love the Dapper Flight 4 CD. Anyone familiar with python and the latest gedit? Is there anyway to run a script with raw_input and then be able to fill it out through gedit output window?
[02:52] <IdleOne>  go to #ubuntu+1 for Dapper help :-)
[02:52] <help-me-pls> hmm
[02:53] <kk_> I've just installed ubuntu for the first time on a machine. I would like to access the machine remotly via vnc
[02:53] <curley_sue> cas source.list seems ok (though it's not that I can really tell), how do I check for broken packs?
[02:53] <IdleOne> !tell kk_  about vnc
[02:53] <_jason> kk_: system > prefs > remote desktop
[02:53] <ubuntu_> thanks IdleOne!
[02:53] <kk_> how do I set vnc to start up first so I can logon through vnc?
[02:54] <kk_> I've used vnc alot with windows but linux is all new to me
[02:54] <cas> curley_sue, you can see that in synaptics Custom->Broken
[02:54] <help-me-pls> damn this is anoying.. i think my boot sector is wrect
[02:55] <B_166-ER-X> i have a problem compiling gtkpod 0.99.2    just look at the 'make' part for one... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9172    , Can someone help ?? please
[02:56] <curley_sue> cas I don't have a custom menu in synaptic
[02:56] <cas> B_166-ER-X, what is the problem? seems like it build just fine
[02:56] <help-me-pls> how can i tell is the bootsector is wrect_
[02:56] <help-me-pls> *is/iif
[02:57] <B_166-ER-X> cas i was under the impression there were errors, usually it says it when its correctly finish
[02:57] <B_166-ER-X> i'll try it
[02:57] <cas> curley_sue, here it is left under (But i'm running +1, so I dunno if the GUI is still the same)
[02:57] <trackium> _jason, it doesn't want to work...
[02:57] <cas> B_166-ER-X, no, it is the other way around with make. I't fine unless it gives you an error ;)
[02:57] <_jason> trackium: don't know then
[02:58] <trackium> _jason, i think my ubuntu is really ill
[02:58] <curley_sue> cas: thanx for your pataince!!! no broken
[02:58] <_jason> trackium: you are logging out and back in to test these things?
[02:58] <B_166-ER-X> ok then
[02:58] <yacc> What are the equivalent of testing and unstable on Ubuntu?
[02:58] <trackium> _jason, no
[02:59] <_jason> trackium: you need to... with the .gnomerc method too
[02:59] <cas> curley_sue, np :), no try update, mark upgrades and apply and see if everything goes ok
[02:59] <trackium> _jason, henk said me that t wasn't necessary
[02:59] <fundacite> hello?
[02:59] <trackium> _jason, ok.... another try will give the answer
[02:59] <B_166-ER-X> cas well, i still cant run it  : oli@NabuchadnesarIII:~/gtkpod-0.99.2$ gtkpod
[02:59] <B_166-ER-X> gtkpod: error while loading shared libraries: libgpod.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory '
[02:59] <_jason> trackium: well no, you can just do 'source ~/.bash_profile' but if you want to test it you should log out and log back in
[02:59] <bimberi> yacc: breezy is 'stable', dapper is the development version
[03:00] <GreenCult> hi all
[03:00] <ufo> help-me-pls: try to dis connect the other disk
[03:00] <cas> B_166-ER-X, did you `make install` it?
[03:00] <B_166-ER-X> yep
[03:00] <curley_sue> cas did u mean "reload"?
[03:00] <yacc> bimberi: So I can do the usual stuff, aff dapper to the sources.list, defined a standard distribution, and selectivly update packages?
[03:01] <B_166-ER-X> cas its like if it wasnt completely installed
[03:01] <cas> curley_sue, sorry yes
[03:01] <Crusad0r> No one can help me with kopete ?
[03:01] <cas> B_166-ER-X, `cd src && ./gtkpod` and see if that runs
[03:01] <curley_sue> cas: so I have nothing to "apply" for...
[03:02] <IdleOne> Crusad0r:  try #kopete
[03:02] <marseillai> axisys: thanks for your help! i was able to change the sudoers file with dapper livecd!
[03:02] <yorian> I'm in xchat right now, how can I make a decent list of all the channels on the server?
[03:02] <curley_sue> cas nothing to upgrade
[03:02] <cas> curley_sue, ok seems thats ok then
[03:02] <Crusad0r> IdleOne, I did, but it seems the problem I encounter comes from ubuntu
[03:02] <B_166-ER-X> oli@NabuchadnesarIII:~$ cd src && ./gtkpod
[03:02] <B_166-ER-X> bash: cd:  no file or directory ..
[03:02] <IdleOne> yorian:  go to Window the Channel list
[03:02] <cas> curley_sue, gimme a sec o find out how to see if dbus is starting by default
[03:03] <swiadek> Hi. Is there an english type dictionary terminal based application. Preferably application that connects and retrieves from online source such as www.dictionary.com
[03:03] <bimberi> yacc: i don't think you can mix the repos that way but i don't know for sure sorry
[03:03] <yorian> IdleOne: Thanks! :)
[03:03] <Onix> hi
[03:03] <cas> curley_sue, do `sudo update-rc.d -n dbus defaults`
[03:03] <yacc> Well, it worked for Debian, OTOH, these are company boxes, so I'll let our new fulltime admin sort it out :)
[03:04] <B_166-ER-X> cas you saw what i pasted
[03:04] <cas> curley_sue, if it is correct it should give you: System startup links for /etc/init.d/dbus already exist.
[03:04] <trackium> _jason, thanks, it seems to be working
[03:04] <priich> yacc: you might get dependency problems but go ahead and test, that is what testing is for... :)
[03:04] <cas> B_166-ER-X, are you in your dir where you typed make??
[03:04] <_jason> trackium: np
[03:05] <B_166-ER-X> in my /home
[03:05] <cas> B_166-ER-X, cd /home/oli/gtkpod-0.99.2/src && ./gtkpod
[03:05] <IdleOne> cas:  could it be that he did make and then did sudo make install? wondering if the sudo part did something it shouldnt have
[03:05] <bimberi> yacc: lol.  i guess if the dependencies are set up correctly it will work (eg. an attempt to install one dapper package might want to upgrade libc6 and hence everything else that depends on that)
[03:05] <yohan> hi !
[03:05] <yacc> bimberi: Right.
[03:06] <B_166-ER-X> ./gtkpod: error while loading shared libraries: libgpod.so.0: cannot open shared , cas
[03:06] <yacc> bimberi: That's the moment one presses very strongly the N key ;)
[03:06] <bimberi> yacc: yes indeed :P
[03:06] <B_166-ER-X> here is the log of the make install , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9173
[03:07] <cas> IdleOne, no, it does exactly the same. But if you configured it with no special install path you can't do make install as default user because you don't have write permissions in /usr/bin
[03:07] <cas> B_166-ER-X, ah excuse me, it did installed it but it seems you're missing some libs
[03:07] <curley_sue> cas: pls check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9174
[03:07] <instabin> how do i make split zip files like rar files in windows
[03:08] <B_166-ER-X> arrrr
[03:08] <babo> Hi guys, do ye know anything about mailing ...
[03:08] <B_166-ER-X> didnt tell me in the config..
[03:08] <B_166-ER-X> cas how do i know wich
[03:08] <javiolo> hi
[03:08] <larsemil> is there any program for linux thats like 3dmark05? i want a benchmarkingprog..
[03:09] <mjr> not really
[03:09] <javiolo> are there the same packages to 386 available on ppc ?
[03:09] <yohan> do you know where can i find windows theme for ubuntu ?
[03:09] <babo> I have a load of email addresses that I want to send mail to. But I want the return email address to be on my host providers server - not mine. Should I go to the trouble of installing an MTA or not ... what do you think ?
[03:09] <mjr> javiolo, mostly yes, except for some packages for which that wouldn't make sense (low-level stuff)
[03:09] <B_166-ER-X> cas how can i know 'wich' libs it needs ?
[03:09] <javiolo> mjr ok
[03:09] <mjr> javiolo, of course, third party proprietary software may not be available for ppc
[03:10] <yorian> larsemil: go to http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html, I see some stuff there
[03:10] <javiolo> mjr how about repos ?
[03:10] <priich> instabin: gnu split ?
[03:10] <javiolo> mjr backports... ?
[03:10] <mjr> javiolo, dunno about non-ubuntu repos
[03:10] <javiolo> do anyone knows ?
[03:10] <cas> B_166-ER-X, I never used that software but it looks like libgpod
[03:11] <B_166-ER-X> cas i have libgpod 1.4 :\
[03:11] <curley_sue> cas i have a reboot request from the last update. b right back...
[03:11] <cas> curley_sue, dbus is reinstalled correctly and it does start on default
[03:11] <B_166-ER-X> cas . compiled it last night
[03:11] <cas> curley_sue, those errors are another problem wich i dunno a quick solution for only reinstalling your python packages
[03:11] <bestadvocate> so, I just installed the package server-xgl, the question is, is it possible to make it do anything yet?
[03:12] <cradek> !Xgl
[03:12] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:12] <sys-admin> hi anybody has got an Old PC that you would like to donate for opensource project?
[03:12] <bestadvocate> thanks cradek
[03:12] <yorian> ubotu: I saw a XGL-topic in the breezy forum?
[03:12] <ubotu> yorian: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:13] <ubuntu_> where is the clearlooks gtk file? It is not in ~/.themes ... ???
[03:14] <cas> B_166-ER-X, did you also installed it? and don't you have official debs installed? they could be bothering each other
[03:14] <priich> ubuntu_ : try /usr/share/themes
[03:14] <B_166-ER-X> cas i deleted my old libgpod , then recompiled it, and make install, it.
[03:14] <B_166-ER-X> according to the install, there were no problem..
[03:15] <ubuntu_> priich: ok
[03:15] <_jason> B_166-ER-X: use checkinstall instead of make install
[03:15] <cas> ubuntu_, did you installed the gtk2-engines-clearlooks? if you did you can see the properties of it in synaptics where it installed it's files
[03:15] <ubuntu_> priich: thanks man, thats it!
[03:16] <ubuntu_> cas: I am on the dapper live cd testing something!
[03:16] <ubuntu_> cas: thanks :)
[03:16] <B_166-ER-X> cas command not found !?
[03:16] <javiolo> are there the same packages to 386 available on ppc ?
[03:17] <cas> B_166-ER-X, what command? most libs don't have commands
[03:17] <B_166-ER-X> 'checkinstall'
[03:17] <_jason> sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[03:17] <B_166-ER-X> hehe
[03:18] <jessy> can someone help me i have keyboard issue after install xgl/compiz, ALT-GR doesn t work :'(
[03:18] <cas> B_166-ER-X, you need to install it. _jason gave you a better way then make install, this make a deb for you wich you can install afterwards with dpkg -i package.deb
[03:18] <Healot> mostly... and remember they are compiled for ppc :)
[03:18] <_jason> B_166-ER-X: by the way, that was just a recommendation, probably has nothing to do with whatever problem you are having
[03:19] <curley_sue> cas after reboot - no progress... did u have the time to check the pastebin?
[03:19] <cas> curley_sue, yeah i did
[03:20] <cas> curley_sue, the errors you are getting don't have much to do with your problem. dbus is installed correctly and must start on boot.
[03:21] <Alonso> hola algien me entiende
[03:22] <Alonso> holaaa
[03:22] <cas> curley_sue, I think it is weird you only need to restart dbus for your problem. Does it automaticly restarts other services aswell? like hald for example?
[03:22] <Alonso> algien habla espaol
[03:23] <cas> curley_sue, I'm sorry I need to go. I hope you can find your problem or someone else can help you with it
[03:25] <Healot> do what my buddy used to do, reinstall the system repetitively :)
[03:25] <curley_sue> cas thanx alot anyhow - i'll put relevant screeshots nxt to that pastebin
[03:25] <monzie> is there a good WYSIWYG html editor for Ubuntu?
[03:25] <Healot> nvu :)
[03:25] <monzie> something like frontpage?
[03:26] <cas> curley_sue, your welcome and good luck
[03:26] <Healot> it's on the universe package, nvu, monzie
[03:26] <monzie> thanks
[03:26] <myki> How to mount nrg cd image?
[03:26] <monzie> mount -o loop myki
[03:27] <monzie> beyond that , man mount
[03:27] <myki> kk
[03:27] <Healot> you can't actually mount Nero's NRG image in linux...
[03:27] <Healot> ISO Image, yes...
[03:27] <Mwafrika> Somebody help me with playing Video CD in Ubuntu
[03:28] <myki> Healot: so there's any way to do it?
[03:28] <myki> Healot: ok, o got it "you can't" ;)
[03:28] <curley_sue> HELP I have a desktop problem, probably has to do with dbus
[03:29] <kbrooks> I want to build a LiveCD based on Ubuntu, that includes all of the Python goodies.
[03:30] <kbrooks> How do I do this?
[03:30] <myki> Healot: Where is actually way to mount nrg: http://llg.cubic.org/tools/mount.nrg ;)
[03:31] <anto9us> myki, this claims to be able to do it http://freshmeat.net/projects/mount-iso-image/
[03:31] <curley_sue> kbrooks do u know Quantation? it's a knoppix live-cd ment for scientific work - has many Python goodies in it
[03:31] <fletch33> morning all if anyone has a sec could you tell me how i might fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9179
[03:31] <fletch33> i am unable to update some stuff in synaptic because of this
[03:31] <curley_sue> !tell me about dbus
[03:31] <kbrooks> curley_sue, no, i'm talking based on ubuntu
[03:32] <_jason> fletch33: sudo apt-get update, in accessories > terminal
[03:32] <B_166-ER-X> cas , im not sure to see how can checkinstall help me... it just build a .deb
[03:32] <fletch33> _jason,  that doesnt do it
[03:32] <priich> myki, try  mount -o loop,offset=307200 filename.nrg /media/ISO
[03:32] <lakcaj> Mwafrika, what media players have you tried?  What errors are you getting?  You have to be more specific in your question.
[03:33] <myki> priich: yep, got it earlier, btw thx
[03:33] <fletch33> _jason,  i get an error during the update
[03:33] <_jason> fletch33: what error
[03:33] <priich> myki: heh sorry :)
[03:33] <myki> np np
[03:33] <priich> myki: there's also a nrg2iso utility
[03:34] <curley_sue> kbrooks, have u checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[03:34] <curley_sue> ?
[03:34] <fletch33> _jason,  i am posting it now
[03:34] <Mwafrika> Lackaj: I it says something like no plugin for .dat file.... with Totem player
[03:34] <kbrooks> curley_sue, im there now
[03:34] <myki> priich: this's out of the question, I've burned some nrg images on dvd ;)
[03:34] <fletch33> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9180
[03:35] <lakcaj> Mwafrika, try mplayer or vlc
[03:35] <Mwafrika> Lakcaj: let me try..... i think i can google around and download
[03:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell fletch33 about seveas
[03:35] <kbrooks> !seveas
[03:35] <_jason> fletch33: fix the GPG error first by reading seveas' repo page
[03:35] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:36] <curley_sue> HELP NEEDED A DBUS PROBLEM
[03:36] <Seveas> curley_sue, hit your caps lock
[03:36] <fletch33> _jason, k where do i find it?
[03:36] <_jason> fletch33: as for the gzip error I don;t know
[03:36] <kbrooks> curley_sue, ASK THEN GOD DAMN IT
[03:36] <Seveas> it won't solve the d-bus problem but it helps
[03:36] <kbrooks> cap off. ;)
[03:36] <_jason> fletch33: check your private messages
[03:36] <fletch33> _jason,  k got iut
[03:36] <Seveas> kbrooks, language please...
[03:36] <kbrooks> Seveas, yes sir
[03:36] <fletch33> _jason,  thanks for your help i will let you know if it works
[03:37] <kbrooks> Seveas, remind me sometime later :)
[03:37] <lakcaj> Mwafrika, vlc in in the universe repository
[03:37] <lakcaj> Mwafrika, vlc is an excellent video player anyway, I would certainly use it over totem
[03:38] <Mwafrika> lackaj: Thanks Lakcaj.... let me start checking on VLC first
[03:38] <curley_sue> can anyone help me with a dbus problem? (have to restart dbus in order to my mounted devs in places menu)
[03:39] <Al-Daja> there's anyway to find something that i download and i don't know where it is using like find of windows or some program?
[03:39] <curley_sue> Al-Daja: r u using gnome and firefox?
[03:40] <Al-Daja> gnome, i already download it i just want to find where it is in my pc
[03:40] <tristan> Al-Daja : you find in the gnome menu
[03:40] <tristan> Al-Daja : use find in the gnome menu
[03:40] <curley_sue> Al-Daja, under Places menu theres Search files
[03:41] <curley_sue> Al-Daja, easier if u've downloaded using firefox (under tools - dowloads)
[03:43] <fletch33> Seveas,  on your repository page am i suppose to put the " gpg --" lines in my sources.list and if so do i keep everything else that is in there?
[03:44] <Al-Daja> tristan: thx i'm really dum just in front off my eyes i did saw it
[03:44] <_jason> fletch33: those are commands
[03:44] <fletch33> _jason, thanks
[03:46] <idefix_> when are they going to program a smiley that has a beard into GAIM?
[03:46] <idefix_> I am extremely amazed that it doesn't exist yet
[03:47] <_jason> hopefully never
[03:47] <idefix_> _jason! how can you say that?
[03:47] <idefix_> it would be the best thing that ever happened to mankind!
[03:47] <nasso> does anyone know if there is an easy app that just prints how muc data is being sent/recieved via eth0/sec?
[03:47] <idefix_> should I just draw one myself?
[03:47] <_jason> idefix_: I turn off the simleys, I like them in their original form better :)
[03:47] <nasso> i dont really understand iftop ^_^
[03:48] <Manny> hi :)
[03:48] <Manny> what's the developer channel? :)
[03:48] <fletch33> _jason,  i ran those command lines and the added the 2 "deb etc" lines from one of the mirrors to my sources.list and i still get the same error i had before
[03:48] <_jason> fletch33: you shouldn't get the GPG error
[03:48] <curley_sue> can anyone help me with a DBUS problem?
[03:49] <curley_sue> I no longer have my mounted devs under places menu unless I restart dbus
[03:49] <csb> is there a common reason for the error: "Odd number of elements in hash assignment"? I've debugged, and the hash looks like it's setup ok, and the script does continue to run
[03:49] <fletch33> _jason,  did i follow the steps correctly because i am getting the exact same error
[03:49] <nasso> does anyone know if there is an livecd with xgl anywhere?
[03:49] <_jason> fletch33: only you can know that, it's just issuing two commands in the terminal
[03:50] <larsemil> in what package can i find the glu lib?
[03:50] <fletch33> _jason,  yeah as i posted above i ran the 2 commands then added the mirror to my sources.list
[03:51] <fletch33> _jason,  i dont know if it matters but my sources.list was empty when i went to add the mirror
[03:51] <_jason> fletch33: did you get errors with the commands?
[03:51] <larsemil> anyone knows anything of GLU library...?
[03:51] <fletch33> _jason,  no
[03:52] <_jason> larsemil: apt-cache search glu library turn up anything?
[03:52] <mjr> larsemil, it's an OpenGL utility library
[03:52] <florent_> hi
[03:52] <larsemil> mjr: but i dont find it in the resp
[03:52] <curley_sue> HELP can anyone help me with a DBUS problem?
[03:52] <curley_sue> I no longer have my mounted devs under places menu unless I restart dbus
[03:53] <fletch33> _jason,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9182
[03:53] <sesq> I have one one HDD windows, on second Ubuntu, today when i make boot HDD with ubuntu, the windows starts, help ?
[03:53] <_jason> fletch33: what does apt-get update do now?
[03:53] <fletch33> _jason,  1 sec i will see
[03:53] <Josh1> Has anyone got Snes9X working? I cant figure it out, and yes its for linux :p
[03:53] <jjjjjjj> do i have to download firefox and then install or is there a sudo apt-get command?  thx
[03:54] <msi> with firework
[03:54] <ompaul> jjjjjjj, are you talking about ff1.5?
[03:54] <florent_> i would lie to know how to test my mic entries over xfce? i use ess maestro sound chip, i don't see any sounds "enter" in idefisk application when i speak? can someone help me ?
[03:54] <jjjjjjj> yes
[03:54] <msi> with firefox you can just unzip and run
[03:54] <poningru> jjjjjjj: you will have to download it
[03:54] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[03:54] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[03:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:54] <fletch33> _jason,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9183
[03:54] <poningru> wtf
[03:54] <poningru> oh
[03:54] <ompaul> poningru, hmmm
[03:54] <msi> btw does anyone know an application like task manager in windows, i like to see my cpu usage
[03:55] <larsemil> msi there is a standard thing in the panel...
[03:55] <_jason> msi: system tools > system monitor
[03:55] <amphi> msi: top
[03:55] <poningru> msi: system monitor
[03:55] <msi> cool thanks
[03:55] <jessy> need help with XGL/COMPIZ
[03:55] <Josh1> Has anyone got Snes9X working? I cant figure it out, and yes its for linux.
[03:55] <poningru> jessy: whats up?
[03:55] <poningru> jessy: the current compiz in repo doesnt use gnome-window-decorator
[03:55] <jessy> poningru, i've installed xgl/compiz, everything works, but now my keybord is corrupted
[03:56] <Healot> "not working" is way too general...
[03:56] <poningru> jessy: hmm
[03:56] <florent_> there is a french channel of ubuntu ?
[03:56] <jessy> i'm under breezy
[03:56] <poningru> !fr
[03:56] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:56] <IdleOne> !fr
[03:56] <Josh1> #ubuntufr
[03:56] <florent_> oki thx
[03:56] <florent_> bye all
[03:56] <jessy> i'm french
[03:56] <triablo_> Hello,does anybody know how to install glib?
[03:56] <jessy> so i have made a
[03:56] <amphi> jessy: congratulations
[03:56] <jessy> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.fr-2
[03:56] <jessy> why amphi ??
[03:56] <msi> does ubuntu support hyperthreading?
[03:57] <_jason> fletch33: see gpg error is gone
[03:57] <poningru> jessy: dude the xgl/compiz is not supposed to be used under breazy it will break stuff under breazy
[03:57] <Healot> like, i installed "fglrx" and it didn't work
[03:57] <jessy> poningru, there is a howto on ubuntuforums
[03:57] <fletch33> _jason,  ok but i still have an issue. what next do u think
[03:57] <poningru> jessy: iirc thats for dapper only
[03:57] <poningru> !xgl
[03:57] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:57] <larsemil> still cant find and install the GLU library... have tried all finds even reminding of GLU in the resp.
[03:57] <poningru> larsemil: what are you looking for?
[03:58] <jessy> what's this ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772&highlight=compiz+breezy
[03:58] <larsemil> poningru, the GLU librarie
[03:58] <_jason> fletch33: can you see http://archive.ubuntu.com in your browser?
[03:58] <jessy> i think that's not a problem of version
[03:58] <amphi> jessy: joking
[03:58] <msi> does anyone here use ubuntu with HT turned on? any issues experienced?
[03:58] <fletch33> _jason,  it is an index
[03:59] <jessy> when i'm making a xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.fr-2 // key works fine, but shortcuts for using compiz aren't working
[03:59] <Healot> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ---do package search here... easier
[03:59] <_jason> fletch33: comment the main repo in sources.list, apt-get update, uncomment, apt-get update
[03:59] <_jason> fletch33: if it still doesn't work, use a mirror like us.archive
[03:59] <jessy> poningru, is there another command to set xgl use french keyboard ?
[04:00] <fletch33> _jason,  ok a little lost what am i suppose to do?
[04:00] <xerophyte> when i type wrong url in the firefox its goes to microsoft site ,does anybody know how can i avoid that
[04:00] <poningru> jessy: are you using the xorg.conf that the guy gave?
[04:00] <fletch33> _jason,  how do i comment? sorry i am a noob
[04:00] <curley_sue> HELP can anyone help me with a DBUS problem?
[04:00] <_jason> fletch33: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', find the lines that have 'breezy main' and then just put a # in front
[04:00] <jessy> poningru, no i'm using mine
[04:00] <curley_sue> I no longer have my mounted devs under places menu unless I restart dbus
[04:00] <Healot> put # infront of each line
[04:01] <fletch33> _jason,  k thanks i will give that a shot
[04:01] <jessy> poningru, but mine is very similar
[04:01] <xerophyte> http//ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128602
[04:01] <poningru> jessy: did you add the modules?
[04:02] <jessy> poningru, at the bottom ? yes
[04:02] <poningru> jessy: I am guessing that the xgl simply doesnt have support for the french keyboard
[04:02] <JRlinux> What is the most often mispronounced distribution of Linux?
[04:02] <snowblink> JRlinux, suse
[04:02] <Healot> debian
[04:02] <JRlinux> My guess is ooBOONtu
[04:03] <jessy> poningru, do you think that xgl make a difference between french and english CTRL button ?
[04:03] <JRlinux> snowblink, you could be right
[04:03] <_jason> !pronounce
[04:03] <ubotu> I guess pronounce is how to pronounce 'ubuntu': "oo-BOON-too".  See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation for details.
[04:03] <poningru> jessy: try #xgl-ubuntu cause I dont know much about this
[04:03] <jessy> ok
[04:03] <poningru> jessy: yeah that would make a diff
[04:04] <Assassin5> that page doesn't exist anymore
[04:04] <jessy> the strange thing is that the cube rotation (ctrl+alt+right clic) works
[04:04] <JRlinux> Darn, my newly burned install disk of amd64 live dapper freezes up...
[04:04] <jessy> and cube rotation with ctrl+alt+arrow doesn't work :s
[04:04] <JRlinux> Won't run on my new Compaq laptop.
[04:04] <poningru> hmm
[04:04] <nasso> does anyone here know how iftop works?
[04:05] <Healot> is that laptop using a 64bit processor? JRlinux ?
[04:05] <JRlinux> yes
[04:05] <poningru> JRlinux: it could be a problem with the cd
[04:05] <poningru> JRlinux: check the md5sum
[04:05] <Healot> how does "it won't run", what errors did you encounter...
[04:06] <Healot> won't run is too general
[04:06] <JRlinux> Could be, poningru , but md5sum checks both with published and with burned disk.
[04:06] <harfooz> hi all. I'm new to Ubuntu, and have two packages being held back that I could use some advice about: linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386. My machine uses a Celeron processor and has an nvidia card (which I already have the driver working for). What is the proper way to resolve these two packages being held?
[04:06] <JRlinux> Healot, I forget just where it stalled.  Early on
[04:06] <poningru> JRlinux: the md5 sums of the cds are published
[04:06] <poningru> you can check em on the website
[04:06] <Healot> checkout again...
[04:07] <JRlinux> Yes, they all check.
[04:07] <Healot> then we can work it out
[04:07] <harfooz> Should I try installing linux-image-686? Will doing dist-upgrade break my nvidia driver?
[04:07] <gniiii> hello, do you know if the live cd of ubuntu provide the access to pptp-php-client & mppe protocol ?
[04:07] <selinium> Hi all, i have tried to install realplayer a few times on this machine to no avail. Any help gratefully received!
[04:07] <selinium> Hi Seveas
[04:07] <selinium> :)
[04:07] <Ng> harfooz: if you install linux-686 it should depend on all the right things
[04:07] <poningru> harfooz: install the 686
[04:07] <poningru> !realplayer
[04:07] <ubotu> from memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:08] <harfooz> great! Thanks Ng and poningru !
[04:08] <exxpert> Question, when I run -anything- with sudo, I don't get any confirmations or outputs of any kind. Like sudo echo test, won't show anything :S Any ideas?
[04:08] <fletch33> _jason,  that didnt seem to work here is a copy of the error ansd my sources.list  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9185
[04:09] <poningru> exxpert: you should have gotten a password prompt
[04:09] <poningru> exxpert: where are you typing that?
[04:09] <exxpert> poningru: well yes, I type in the password, but the actual command doesn't give any output
[04:09] <exxpert> In my terminal
[04:09] <harfooz> Ng, poningru: once I complete installing the 686 linux-image, a reboot will be required, right?
[04:10] <Ng> correct
[04:10] <_jason> fletch33: comment 41 and 42, use a different mirror if you want
[04:10] <poningru> harfooz: yes
[04:10] <fletch33> _jason, k i will try that now i really appreciate your help
[04:10] <curley_sue> HELP can anyone help me with a DBUS problem?
[04:10] <curley_sue> I no longer have my mounted devs under places menu unless I restart dbus
[04:10] <_jason> fletch33: I'm gonna be gone for a bit, just ask the channel any other questions you have
[04:10] <fletch33> _jason,  got it thanks
[04:11] <fletch33> _jason,  works now
[04:11] <poningru> exxpert: it should have said test
[04:11] <exxpert> poningru: hence my concern, because it doesn't
[04:11] <poningru> exxpert: go check /bin
[04:11] <poningru> see if there is a file called echo
[04:12] <gniiii> or kvpn
[04:12] <exxpert> Echo works just fine
[04:12] <poningru> sudo echo doesnt?
[04:12] <exxpert> Just not with sudo
[04:12] <poningru> hmm weird
[04:12] <poningru> do other sudo commands work?
[04:12] <fevel> im having trouble shutting down the pc or restarting it
[04:12] <poningru> fevel: whats wrong?
[04:13] <harfooz> poningru, after a successful reboot with the new linux-image, should I delete the 386 version? Can that be easily done through apt-get?
[04:13] <exxpert> Well, I just tried typing sudo nano, and that did nothing
[04:13] <poningru> harfooz: no need
[04:13] <fevel> it says its going down for a reboot but never does
[04:13] <harfooz> ok
[04:13] <harfooz> thanks very much for the help!
[04:13] <poningru> harfooz: np
[04:13] <ompaul> exxpert, sudo id <-- what does that say?
[04:13] <poningru> good idea
[04:13] <exxpert> nothing
[04:13] <poningru> wtf
[04:13] <idefix_> is main, contrib and non-free the same as main, restricted and universe/multiverse?
[04:14] <idefix_> i.o.w. are the universe/multiverse repositories not free!?
[04:14] <poningru> exxpert: what does su give you?
[04:14] <mjr> idefix_, universe is free, resctricted and multiverse are not
[04:14] <Ng> idefix_: what are contrib and non-free?
[04:14] <Healot> ubuntu vs. debian terms?
[04:14] <Ng> idefix_: the official ubuntu repositories are main, restricted, universe, multiverse and a backports for each release
[04:14] <exxpert> poningru: Hmm, authentication failure
[04:14] <idefix_> oh I read something from the help of the Synaptic Packages
[04:14] <mjr> idefix_, main and restricted are "officially" supported, the verses community-supported
[04:15] <terracorp> hy
[04:15] <idefix_> so if I'd manage to contribute something it'd be in one of the verses then
[04:15] <poningru> exxpert: oh do passwd root and enter a password
[04:15] <jimcooncat> can I get better clipboard functionality?
[04:15] <terracorp> who can help me configure my tv tuner on ubuntu using tvtime tellevision?
[04:15] <exxpert> poningru: >< denied
[04:15] <poningru> wtf
[04:16] <exxpert> It says I can't change or see the passwd for root
[04:16] <poningru> exxpert: oh I think I know why
[04:16] <exxpert> Good thing someone does :P
[04:16] <poningru> exxpert: are you the only user of that box?
[04:16] <poningru> I dont think you have sudo privs
[04:17] <poningru> super user*
[04:17] <exxpert> Well, I'm fairly sure I'm the only one
[04:17] <exxpert> How could I set it if I don't have it?
[04:17] <Healot> %admib
[04:17] <exxpert> Healot: ?
[04:17] <poningru> exxpert: go to system->admin->users and groups
[04:18] <poningru> and under privs make sure you have super user
[04:18] <Ng> exxpert: ideally you don't want to have a root password
[04:18] <Ng> if you are a member of the "admin" group you have sudo access
[04:18] <poningru> oh yeah
[04:18] <exxpert> Yeah, but since I have no root pass, and no sudo access
[04:18] <poningru> you need su access to access admin
[04:18] <sohmc> I'm trying to compile a program but I'm getting an error saying I can't create executibles.
[04:18] <poningru> exxpert: can you open up synaptic or others under admin?
[04:19] <Ng> exxpert: you can reboot into recovery mode and run "adduser yourusername admin" to put yourusername into the admin group
[04:19] <tombs> hi all
[04:19] <terracorp> Who can help me setup my tv tuner on ubuntu??
[04:19] <exxpert> poningru: Used to, not anymore, it's not there
[04:19] <exxpert> Ng: I see
[04:19] <poningru> exxpert: yeah do what Ng said
[04:19] <exxpert> I'll try that
[04:19] <jjjjjjj> i clicked a link in here and firefox opened in a terminal.... help
[04:19] <we2by_> I just setup the graphes for my router using mrtg
[04:19] <exxpert> Thanks guys
[04:20] <we2by_> but I don't see the total transfer in gb.
[04:20] <jjjjjjj> now i did have ff open when i was upgrading it to 1.5 a minute ago
[04:20] <curley_sue> HELP I don have my mounted devices under the places menu!
[04:20] <snowblink> what is the best way of updating multiple boxes when security updates come out?
[04:20] <we2by_> does mrtg count the total transfer too? or do I need another tool for that?
[04:20] <poningru> sohmc: whats wrong?
[04:20] <poningru> what are you trying to compile?
[04:20] <sohmc> poningru, not sure...here's the error I get
[04:21] <poningru> dont paste it here
[04:21] <poningru> paste it on pastebin
[04:21] <Healot> use pastebin :)
[04:21] <poningru> if its more than a two liner
[04:21] <poningru> !patebin
[04:21] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:21] <poningru> !pastebin
[04:21] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:21] <terracorp> anyone?
[04:21] <hoviadko> is there some grafical frontend for installing packages that you downloaded manually coming? i can't imagine explaining friends they need to write dpkg... in commmand line
[04:21] <terracorp> help plese
[04:22] <poningru> hoviadko: synaptic
[04:22] <Manny> hoviadko IMHO that's planned for later releases
[04:22] <Manny> it's on the TODO list of some talented people, at least :)
[04:22] <sohmc> poningru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9186
[04:22] <poningru> oh you mean like that
[04:22] <hoviadko> Manny: good
[04:22] <BAD-IDEA> how do i run apache and mysql ?
[04:22] <Manny> (I could also say GET INVOLVED NOW AND HELP US PROGRAMMING IT but you'd just refuse to do so ;/)
[04:22] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, apt-get install apache2
[04:23] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, you can also try synaptic to install those programs
[04:23] <curley_sue> HELP I don have my mounted devices under the places menu!
[04:23] <Ng> Manny: try #ubuntu-deve;
[04:23] <poningru> sohmc: do you have build-essentials installed?
[04:23] <Ng> erk
[04:23] <Ng> #ubuntu-devel rather
[04:23] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc i installed but somehow the webserver dosent read php files
[04:23] <Manny> Ng thanks, I made a similar typo
[04:24] <sohmc> poningru, nope....that would do it
[04:24] <poningru> sohmc: :D
[04:24] <Al-Daja> i get ircd from synaptic pack manager but i try to find it, and it wasn't in anyplace, what i'm doing wrong?
[04:24] <sohmc> poningru, still new to ubuntu...I'm used to fedora installing everything
[04:24] <terracorp> Hey who can help me setup my tv tuner on ubuntu please help !
[04:24] <poningru> happens to the best of us
[04:24] <BAD-IDEA> when i go to http://localhost/folder/index.php its opens to download the file
[04:24] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, you need to install the php modules
[04:24] <poningru> sohmc: yeah most people ubuntu is aimed at dont need build essentials
[04:24] <poningru> if they do then ubuntu failed
[04:24] <BAD-IDEA> i installed that allso bit how to integrade them together
[04:24] <sohmc> poningru, but I like building stuff...there's nothing letting your cyber hands dirty now and then... ;-)
[04:25] <harfooz> poningru, I have a problem with the nvidia module and the 686 kernel. Failed to load the nvidia module.
[04:25] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, what do you mean?
[04:25] <poningru> BAD-IDEA: phpadmin
[04:25] <harfooz> I removed nvidia-glx and tried reinstalling it.
[04:25] <poningru> hmm
[04:25] <Al-Daja> i get ircd from synaptic pack manager but i try to find it, and it wasn't in anyplace, what i'm doing wrong?
[04:25] <harfooz> following the instructions at this website: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[04:25] <BAD-IDEA> how do i check that both mysql and apache is running ?
[04:26] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, you may need to restart the apache server to have it install the module
[04:26] <poningru> BAD-IDEA: ps aux
[04:26] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:26] <poningru> harfooz: hmm
[04:26] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, ps auw | grep mysql
[04:26] <poningru> harfooz: if thats all you are trying to do then just get easyubuntu
[04:26] <poningru> !easyubuntu
[04:26] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:27] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc can i read the tutorial somewere in the net
[04:27] <xerophyte> does anybody know why the firefox 1.5 crashes often on the Ubunut
[04:27] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, tutorial for what?>
[04:27] <Puppetsmaster> I'm looking fro clamav-data 0.88-2 volatile... hre i can find it?
[04:28] <BAD-IDEA> how to apache + mysql webserver
[04:28] <jjjjjjj> !ff1.5
[04:28] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:28] <sohmc> xerophyte, are you trying to use the firefox installed for ubuntu, or the one from the mozilla web site?
[04:28] <danychouinard> Hello, I want to rebuild my raid device with a different number of member, is it possible to do it while keeping my data?
[04:29] <xerophyte> sohmc i have installed using automatix
[04:29] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, well you cant just run apache and mysql together...you need some sort of parser... most people use php (like me)
[04:29] <poningru> xerophyte: thats the prob
[04:29] <sohmc> xerophyte, hmmm...I don't know what automatix is
[04:29] <poningru> dont use automatix
[04:29] <poningru> !automatix
[04:29] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:29] <BAD-IDEA> i installed the php also
[04:29] <sohmc> i'll side with poningru on this....:-)
[04:30] <BAD-IDEA> but i dont no if i nedd to configure php to work with apache
[04:30] <xerophyte> poningru, so i need to download from the mozilla site and install it just wondering
[04:30] <poningru> xerophyte: no you can use easyubuntu
[04:30] <poningru> !easyubuntu
[04:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:30] <poningru> err hold on
[04:30] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/programming/php/tutorials/tutorial4.html
[04:30] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, php and apache, if installed using synaptic, should work out of the box
[04:31] <jjjjjjj> firefox is opening in a terminal.  when i change System >Preferences>Preferred Applications... my custom firefox %s does not stay.  :(
[04:31] <poningru> xerophyte: yeah you have to download from the website
[04:31] <poningru> !ff1.5
[04:31] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:31] <harfooz> poningru, hey I think I may have found the problem! I am going to install linux-restricted-modules-686.
[04:31] <jjjjjjj> been there done that
[04:31] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc yes i installed using synaptic but i have problems
[04:31] <poningru> jjjjjjj: whats the prob?
[04:32] <Al-Daja> i get ircd from synaptic pack manager but i try to find it, and it wasn't in anyplace, what i'm doing wrong?
[04:32] <Def775975> hello
[04:32] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, okay...let's make sure everything is installed correctly.  paste your apache2 config
[04:32] <sohmc> !past
[04:32] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sohmc
[04:32] <sohmc> !paste
[04:32] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:32] <jjjjjjj> if i right click  a link here... ff opens in terminal mode
[04:33] <poningru> jjjjjjj: what do you mean terminal mode?
[04:33] <jjjjjjj> like the old lynx browser
[04:33] <sohmc> where can I get a list of ubotu ! commands?
[04:33] <jjjjjjj> all text... not in the ff app
[04:33] <poningru> Al-Daja: what language do you speak?
[04:33] <poningru> !blsh
[04:33] <ubotu> poningru: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:33] <poningru> sohmc: that link
[04:33] <edulix> hi !
[04:33] <amphi> sohmc: /msg ubotu listkeys foo will list all the factoids pertaining to 'foo'
[04:33] <BAD-IDEA> !past
[04:33] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BAD-IDEA
[04:33] <curley_sue> I need HELP - my auto mount does no longer work!
[04:34] <edulix> I'm trying to install k3b but it says that it depends in some libs it can't install. I'm using dapper
[04:34] <edulix> for example it says it needs  kdelibs4c2 but it's not available
[04:34] <Zoroaster> how do I start webmin?
[04:34] <edulix> but kdelibs4c2a is available
[04:34] <edulix> same happens with libmusicbrainz4c2 and libmusicbrainz4c2a
[04:34] <sohmc> thanks poningru and amphi
[04:34] <Zoroaster> I installed it for samba, but I can't invoke it
[04:34] <xerophyte> Poningru how can i install easyUbuntu because i am having problem checkingout  from svn which give me connection refused
[04:34] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, how's it coming?
[04:34] <edulix> what's that a thingie?
[04:34] <poningru> !tell xerophyte about easyubuntu
[04:34] <poningru> xerophyte: follow that link
[04:34] <jjjjjjj> well i'll try reinstalling.... ?  thx
[04:35] <poningru> xerophyte: oh wait stop
[04:35] <pm> happy doughnut everyone!!!!!
[04:35] <poningru> xerophyte: that doesnt have firefox on it
[04:35] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc i dont no which file
[04:35] <harfooz> poningru, that fixed it! I just needed the linux-restricted-modules-686 package when I moved to the 686 linux-image! Woo Hoo!
[04:35] <larsemil> anyone got a good page that is like art.gnome.org for backgroundimages?
[04:35] <poningru> harfooz: awesome
[04:35] <xerophyte> poningru, how do i instlal i have removed the automatix now and firefox need to install back
[04:35] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[04:36] <sohmc> !tell BAD-IDEA about paste
[04:36] <poningru> !tell xerophyte abotu firefox1.5
[04:36] <poningru> wtf
[04:36] <poningru> !ff1.5
[04:36] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:36] <we2by_> !help
[04:36] <poningru> xerophyte: also go into your home directory and rename .mozilla into REALmozilla
[04:37] <poningru> we2by_: whats wrong dude?
[04:37] <poningru> xerophyte: thats to back up your profile
[04:37] <we2by_> nothing
[04:37] <we2by_> !topic
[04:37] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc i paste the entire file
[04:37] <poningru> xerophyte: nm follow the instructions on that page
[04:37] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: yeah...once you do, send me the link
[04:38] <we2by_>  16:38:01 up  4:53,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.25, 0.29
[04:38] <sohmc> !firefox
[04:38] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9187
[04:38] <Niekie> !xen
[04:38] <ubotu> methinks xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[04:38] <we2by_> !network
[04:38] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[04:38] <we2by_> !network monitoring
[04:38] <ubotu> we2by_: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:38] <poningru> we2by_: if you want to play with ubotu go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:38] <ailean> I am having problems with applications blocking the sound card for other apps.  How can I set it up so that multiple applications can use the sound card at the same time?
[04:38] <poningru> dont crowd this channel pelease
[04:39] <poningru> ailean: hold on let me get the link
[04:39] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: try uncommenting lines 334 and 335 and then restart apache
[04:39] <ailean> thanks poningru
[04:39] <GTX> Guy's where is the apt-get source list located?
[04:39] <jjjjjjj> good q: gtx
[04:39] <sohmc> GTX:: you mean on your computer?
[04:39] <poningru> !sources
[04:39] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:40] <poningru> err thats not it
[04:40] <GTX> poningru, I need the command line..
[04:40] <mikelo> anybody know where i can get good open source free hosting?
[04:40] <GTX> sohmc, in command line yes
[04:40] <sohmc> GTX:: /etc/apt/list.sources I think
[04:40] <GTX> ta
[04:40] <GTX> neg
[04:40] <GTX> Its not that
[04:41] <Al-Daja> i get ircd from synaptic pack manager but i try to find it, and it wasn't in anyplace, what i'm doing wrong?
[04:41] <hatake_kakashi> sources.list
[04:41] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: how's it going?
[04:42] <jjjjjjj> !ff1.5
[04:42] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:42] <poningru> GTX: what sohmc listed is it except with a minor change:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:43] <mikelo> anybody know where i can get good open source free hosting?
[04:43] <danychouinard> i want to change the number of member of an existing raid device and keeps my data
[04:43] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: check /etc/apache2/mods-available to see if the php module is there
[04:43] <poningru> sohmc: dude communitiy channel: #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntuforums etc. if you ever wanna just hang out
[04:43] <poningru> ailean: hmm I cant find the link hold on
[04:43] <sohmc> mikelo:: try sourceforge
[04:43] <trappist> bug 23018 has been fixed for some time but nobody's closed it.
[04:44] <sohmc> poningru:: am I not being on topic?  I appologize if I am...I"m trying to help BAD-IDEA
[04:44] <trappist> oops wrong channel
[04:44] <LjL> is there anything i should know for using a GeForce FX5200 with the best driver, except what's in the BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?
[04:44] <poningru> sohmc: hehe no dude
[04:44] <LjL> i mean besides
[04:44] <poningru> I was just welcoming you to the community
[04:44] <sabbar> hallo
[04:44] <sohmc> poningru:: ah...sorry...I didn't read the second line...:-)
[04:45] <sohmc> poningru:: thanks for the invite
[04:45] <sabbar> what is it
[04:45] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc its the same
[04:45] <ailean> no rush poningru :)
[04:45] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: what's the same>?
[04:45] <BAD-IDEA> i uncommented the lines restarted apache
[04:45] <BAD-IDEA> when i go to http://localhost/testphp.php its opens dialog box to download the file
[04:45] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: check /etc/apache2/mods-available to see if the php module is there
[04:46] <LjL> hmm also, is my FX5200 a "legacy" cards (i.e. a GeForce 1 or 2), which needs nvidia-gfx-legacy? (i really know zero about video)
[04:46] <Kyral> LjL: if it is then I shouldn't be using NVidia-GLX because I run the FX5500 :P
[04:46] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc :) no
[04:46] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: ah....you'll need to install php5
[04:47] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: apt-get install php5
[04:47] <curley_sue> I need HELP - my auto mount does no longer work!
[04:47] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: errr...  sudo apt-get install php6
[04:47] <sohmc> AHH!!
[04:47] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc how do i do whith synaptic
[04:47] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: errr...  sudo apt-get install php5
[04:47] <LjL> Kyral: hm? i'm not getting you, do you mean the binary driver wouldn't work?
[04:47] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: open synaptic and search for php5
[04:48] <mikelo> anybody have any idea on using gmailfs?
[04:48] <Seveas> sohmc, that won't help...
[04:48] <poningru> ailean: lets try something
[04:48] <ailean> yep poningru
[04:48] <sohmc> Seveas:: what won't help?
[04:48] <danychouinard> where could i go to get help with mdadm
[04:48] <Seveas> BAD-IDEA, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 (or libapache-mod-php5 if you useapache1)
[04:48] <Kyral> LjL: I mean that if the FX5200 is considered Legacy, then my FX5500 should be as well, but I use the normal driver. It was my playful way of saying that the normal driver should work
[04:48] <Seveas> sohmc, the php package installs just the commind line tool
[04:48] <poningru> ailean: go into system->pref
[04:49] <poningru> and click multimedia selector
[04:49] <ailean> should i be using Gnome then poningru ?
[04:49] <poningru> ailean: oh
[04:49] <poningru> you are using kde?
[04:49] <LjL> Kyral: oh, i see... it's just that i didn't even know the fx5200 and 5500 were comparable and how, you see, i've been using matrox cards with 16 megs of memory until now ;)
[04:49] <ailean> poningru, at the moment yes
[04:49] <poningru> hold on then
[04:49] <ailean> poningru, i can change over though
[04:49] <Kyral> LjL: *SHUDDER*
[04:50] <ailean> poningru, but i would be mostly be using kde
[04:50] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc i synaptic is php5-imap and php5-syck i cant find other
[04:50] <terracorp> Hy who can help me setup my tv tuner on ubuntu???????????/
[04:50] <poningru> ailean: no hold on let me see
[04:50] <ailean> poningru, k
[04:50] <Kyral> BAD-IDEA: open a term and do the command Seveas said (but with Sudo on front)
[04:51] <xerophyte> poningru, how can i remove the firefox which is installed using automatix ??
[04:51] <Kyral> ....Firefox is installed by default
[04:51] <LjL> the binary driver howto for nvidia instructs (point 16) to close all applications and press cltr+alt+backspace to restart X. perhaps suggesting to logout would be a better idea?
[04:51] <bbc|destructive> Hi, is there a german Ubuntu channel????
[04:51] <Seveas> !de
[04:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:51] <poningru> !also
[04:51] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, poningru
[04:51] <poningru> err
[04:51] <Kyral> LjL: No, logging out just brings you to GDM, it doesn't restart X
[04:51] <poningru> !alsa
[04:51] <sohmc> Seveas:: I was looking to see how I installed the apache module...couldn't remember for the life of me
[04:51] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[04:52] <interferon> i use ubuntu on my personal computers, but is there anything that it would offer over debian for a web/email server?
[04:52] <poningru> ailean: found it
[04:52] <poningru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:52] <Seveas> interferon, security updates
[04:52] <LjL> Kyral: hm, though it does look like X is being restarted, given the screen flicker...
[04:52] <poningru> ubotu: botsnack
[04:52] <ubotu> :)
[04:52] <Seveas> (and yes, there is debian-security too, but don't make me laugh...)
[04:52] <Kyral> LjL: do CTRL+ALT+Backspace and notice the difference
[04:52] <ailean> poningru, so this will show me how to do it then
[04:52] <Formidable> MAke him laugh!
[04:52] <Formidable> make him laugh!
[04:52] <BAD-IDEA> Kyral Package libapache2-mod-php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:52] <poningru> ailean: yep
[04:53] <Kyral> you should breifly see the Virtual Terminals
[04:53] <ailean> poningru, thanks :)
[04:53] <Kyral> !info libapache2-mod-php5 breezy
[04:53] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1824 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[04:53] <BAD-IDEA> !info libapache2-mod-php5 breezy
[04:53] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1824 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[04:53] <Kyral> BAD-IDEA: do you have all the repos enabled?
[04:54] <LjL> Kyral: i'll pay attention to it. anyway, i think i'll change the howto so that it says to logout and *then* press ctrl+alt+bksp, i think if would be generally better anyway... i mean, if there's not need to restart X forcibly while Gnome/KDE is open, it should be avoided
[04:54] <poningru> ailean: err hold on that uses gnome too at the last step
[04:54] <poningru> Seveas: how do you change the default sound sink using cli?
[04:54] <ailean> poningru, does it make a difference then?
[04:54] <BAD-IDEA> whats repos ? im new to Ubuntu
[04:54] <Kyral> LjL: actually they have no problem with it
[04:54] <Kyral> !repos
[04:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:54] <poningru> ailean: follow the instructions till the very last step
[04:54] <ailean> k
[04:54] <javiolo> are there the same packages to 386 available on ppc ?
[04:54] <ailean> poningru, will you be around for a bit then?
[04:54] <poningru> ailean: yep
[04:55] <Kyral> javiolo: not of some things. Some things just haven't been ported to PPC
[04:55] <poningru> javiolo: yeah the ones in main and universe
[04:55] <LjL> Kyral: well there might be applications that don't save all their settings if they're not asked to shutdown... of course it does say to close all "applications", but what's an application? is something in the system tray an "application"? most users probably don't think so
[04:55] <ailean> poningru, you're a great help :)
[04:55] <Kyral> LjL: *shrugs* Most of my apps haven't cared lol
[04:55] <poningru> javiolo: the ones in restricted/multiverse may or may not be there
[04:55] <Seveas> poningru, no idea, never had to do that 
[04:55] <javiolo> how about backports and others ?
[04:56] <poningru> Seveas: do you know how to do it in kde?
[04:56] <LjL> Seveas: has debian's security gotten so bad? i think it used to be quite valued
[04:56] <Kyral> javiolo: Ehh I honestly don't know, I don't use PPC :P
[04:56] <Seveas> poningru, there's no KDE on any of my machines
[04:56] <poningru> hehe
[04:56] <Seveas> LjL, it's terribly slow...
[04:56] <foxpaul> does anyone have an idea how i use svn revert to skip back to revision 12, or whatever?
[04:56] <LjL> Kyral: yeah, i've done that innumerable times too and nothing bad ever happened :) it's just a matter of the howto saying "the right thing"
[04:56] <Kyral> LjL: then its the right thing :P
[04:57] <LjL> Seveas: yeah someone was just saying that yesterday. but it didn't always used to be that way did it?
[04:58] <Seveas> LjL, don't know exactly - I never felt really comfortable with the d-s speed
[04:58] <nebula> when I try to login as root I type "su -" and then I type my password, it says athentication failed
[04:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell nebula about root
[04:58] <foxpaul> anyone?
[04:59] <LjL> Seveas: well it's a pity, debian's such a fine distribution otherwise. then of course ubuntu can be a good alternative for anybody who'd like to use debian, but still
[05:00] <ailean> ok poningru i'm at the last step
[05:00] <xerophyte>  what does /opt stands
[05:00] <snowblink> foxpaul, you probably want svn merge
[05:00] <poningru> ailean: in the konsole type in 'gstreamer-properties'
[05:00] <poningru> and press enter
[05:00] <LjL> Seveas: i guess it's just another instance of debian's excessive perfectionism =)
[05:01] <Seveas> LjL, and abundance of ego 
[05:01] <Seveas> (but let's not start that discussion here, #ubuntu-offtopic if you insist)
[05:01] <poningru> xerophyte: thats a folder where the distro doesnt put anything
[05:01] <Kyral> xerophyte: its a directory that has been traditionally used for software not installed by the package managers (like locally compiled programs). Most likely stands for "Optional" and serves the same function as /usr/local
[05:01] <ailean> poningru, okay
[05:01] <poningru> xerophyte: what Kyral said
[05:01] <LjL> Seveas: nah, i'll reboot in a moment to test the new graphics drivers
[05:01] <poningru> ailean: does a window popup?
[05:02] <ailean> poningru, yep i have a window, do i just follow the instructions as they are, or do i do something else?
[05:02] <poningru> ailean: nope follow the instructions
[05:02] <ailean> poningru, k :)
[05:04] <fdr> hello... I would like to know more about Dapper and maybe download it to give it a try, but unfortunately I can't find the project main webpage, could you please point it to me? thanks
[05:04] <ailean> thanks poningru - i'm going to restart
[05:04] <poningru> fdr: ??
[05:04] <poningru> fdr: what do you mean?
[05:04] <ufo> how do i add things from /etc/init.d/ to start automatic
[05:04] <poningru> !flight4
[05:04] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[05:06] <fdr> poningru: that one, thanks. Is it linked from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ ? I couldn't find it...
[05:06] <poningru> fdr: yeah ofcourse
[05:06] <poningru> fdr: do you want to update to dapper?
[05:06] <poningru> fdr: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[05:07] <jimcooncat> looking for tips on workarounds for copy/paste of graphics?
[05:07] <fdr> poningru: I have a spare virtual machine and would like to try all the goodies who are to come with the next ubuntu stable :-)
[05:07] <Oli> Hello, I have a problem with cedega on unbunto (Breezy) - ython2.4-gtk2
[05:08] <Oli> "Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings but I've that package installed
[05:08] <poningru> fdr: awesome
[05:08] <fdr> poningru: why awesome? :)
[05:08] <Al-Daja> where i can know the files related to wxWidgets
[05:08] <poningru> fdr: more testers == better software
[05:08] <aaronshaf> Why doesn't Ubuntu/gnome have an interace for dual monitors like Redhat / KDE?
[05:10] <ufo> aaronshaf: ati does
[05:10] <poningru> aaronshaf: it will in the next release
[05:10] <Al-Daja> where i can know the files related to wxWidgets
[05:10] <ufo> poningru: in dapper
[05:10] <aaronshaf> When, tentatively, is the next release?
[05:11] <jah_raztah> in dapper i try to add files to sepertine but it doesn't add any mp3 or even ogg files
[05:11] <poningru> ufo: yes
[05:11] <poningru> aaronshaf: april
[05:11] <poningru> and its certain
[05:11] <poningru> not tentative
[05:11] <aaronshaf> thanks
[05:11] <poningru> jah_raztah: #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <ailean> hey poningru, did all that and sound is working through alsa
[05:12] <ailean> poningru, but i can't get sound from skype while xmms is playing
[05:12] <xerophyte> my sounds is not working .. i found  some guide somewhree but i could not find it now
[05:12] <fdr> poningru: just a curiosity... how do I get from wiki.ubuntu.com to the flight4 page? I still fail to see the link :)
[05:12] <poningru> ailean: hmm really?
[05:12] <larsemil> xerophyte, there are like hundreds in the ubuntuforums.
[05:12] <poningru> fdr: search for flight 4 on the search bar
[05:12] <ailean> poningru, let me try something else
[05:13] <poningru> !tell xerophyte about alsa
[05:13] <ailean> poningru, but totem works alongside xmms
[05:13] <Angel_Dex> anyone know how to run oneko?
[05:13] <poningru> ailean: I am guessing its a skype prob
[05:13] <ailean> poningru, i think it's because skype is looking for /dev/dsp
[05:13] <poningru> ailean: why are you using skype?  try using ekiga or something
[05:14] <poningru> ailean: isnt that where your sound card is?
[05:14] <ailean> poningru, yeah, but shouldn't the traffic be directed towards the mixer rather than directly to the card?
[05:14] <ufo> poningru: is ekiga skype compatible
[05:14] <poningru> ufo: not yet
[05:14] <poningru> ufo: they are working on it
[05:14] <ailean> yeah, until it is i'll need to use skype poningru
[05:14] <ufo> poningru: ok... thx
[05:15] <Angel_Dex> anyone>
[05:15] <poningru> ailean: no if the software wants to acess the sound hardware directly its allowed iirc, I could be wrong
[05:15] <ailean> poningru, i don't want my music to stop the phone from ringing obviously
[05:15] <ailean> hmm
[05:15] <poningru> yeah I thought those instructions would fix that
[05:15] <poningru> hold on
[05:16] <ailean> poningru, there's a note fiurther down the page you gave me that said to type "modprobe -v snd-pcm-oss"
[05:16] <ailean> poningru, didn't help, but then I didn't restart - would I need to?
[05:16] <jjjjjjj> goin for dapper
[05:17] <knubbe> is there any other client than skype that can reach skype's protocol?
[05:17] <poningru> ailean: here we go
[05:17] <ailean> k
[05:18] <poningru> ailean: yeah try that
[05:18] <poningru> and restart
[05:18] <Webx> how do i list all installed programs?
[05:18] <poningru> Webx: you can do it in apt, but just go to synaptic and find them all
[05:19] <ailean> k, restarting
[05:19] <Webx> poningru: isnt it some command for it?
[05:19] <Angel_Dex> anyone know how to run oneko?
[05:19] <Mwafrika> Somebody help me install Mplayer?
[05:19] <iBalo> Webx: dpkg -l
[05:19] <Webx> that works for debian systems right?
[05:19] <poningru> oh true
[05:20] <poningru> Webx: ubuntu is a debian based system
[05:20] <Webx> just checking =) thanks
[05:20] <poningru> Mwafrika: apt-get install mplayer
[05:20] <iBalo> since it's a _d_pkg....
[05:20] <Zoroaster> evolution crashes on my computer
[05:20] <Zoroaster> I am using it to connect to exchange
[05:20] <Mwafrika> Poninguru: it cant find the installation files
[05:21] <Zoroaster> I am wondering, can Evo be uninstalled and reinstalled, and is that a good step for trying to fix my problem
[05:21] <cblboy> hello?
[05:21] <cblboy> having problems with a dual boot
[05:21] <cblboy> can anyone help
[05:22] <Mwafrika> Poningru: After running few lines its says package has no candidate
[05:22] <Zoroaster> does anyone know how I can install MS Internet Explorer on Ubuntu 5.10?
[05:22] <poningru> Mwafrika: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[05:22] <jodanlime> cblboy, whats the problemo?
[05:23] <poningru> Zoroaster: hehe you cant
[05:23] <cblboy> dual boot with xp sp2
[05:23] <cblboy> have internet
[05:23] <iBalo> Zoroaster: you could try to reinstall but it won't fix anything most of the time
[05:23] <cblboy> but no other network connections
[05:23] <jodanlime> Zoroaster, why would you want to
[05:23] <Zoroaster> I know, I just wanted to see if I was invisible
[05:23] <yacc> Zoroaster: By CrossOver Office, it might support even that sick thing.
[05:23] <cblboy> can disjoin network
[05:23] <jodanlime> whats the internet problem?
[05:23] <Zoroaster> jodanlime, thanks
[05:23] <Angel_Dex> EWWWWWW IE
[05:23] <cblboy> cnt
[05:23] <cblboy> cant
[05:23] <Mwafrika> poningru: Im kind of new... how do i past the list on the pastbin?
[05:23] <poningru> oh sorry
[05:23] <cblboy> no network resources
[05:23] <poningru> !pastebin
[05:23] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:24] <Zoroaster> I was just playing on the IE explorer thing
[05:24] <jodanlime> what internet?
[05:24] <poningru> Mwafrika: you have acces to the list right?
[05:24] <jodanlime> Zoroaster, kay, thats good
[05:24] <poningru> Mwafrika: err as in you know how to access the list right?
[05:24] <jodanlime> cblboy, is it dial up?
[05:24] <Mwafrika> Poningru: Yes i have access its my computer just intalled Ubuntu
[05:24] <danychouinard> ie in wine : http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/
[05:24] <poningru> cool
[05:24] <poningru> danychouinard: did not know that
[05:25] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen installing from expresso versus the regular install iso ?
[05:25] <ailean> poningru, still not working . . . i don't know what to do. but i bet i'm annoying you now
[05:25] <Alexi5> hello
[05:25] <cblboy> no no
[05:25] <cblboy> at work
[05:25] <cblboy> in my office
[05:25] <ailean> poningru, although it's great to have at least SOME apps mixing
[05:25] <cblboy> on a test pc
[05:25] <cblboy> dual boot
[05:25] <poningru> ailean: its cool
[05:25] <poningru> ailean: hold on
[05:25] <danychouinard> yeah, look for the sidenet wine Configuration Utility
[05:25] <ailean> poningru, so thanks very much
[05:25] <richard_> how can i start my modem? ubunto doesn't detect?
[05:26] <Angel_Dex> why will no one help me TT_TT
[05:26] <iBalo> richard_: is it a winmodem (builtin device)?
[05:26] <poningru> ailean: http://alsa.opensrc.org/OssEmulation
[05:26] <poningru> do that
[05:26] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype
[05:26] <poningru> that explains at the end
[05:26] <jodanlime> cblboy, if its ethernet it should automatically config itself when you install it, if its dial up theres some work, if you go to system>administration> networking it might help
[05:27] <ailean> poningru, i'll give it a shot :)
[05:27] <Alexi5> are there are there any python modules for emacs
[05:27] <chaz_> anyone know what compiler ubuntu uses?
[05:27] <MrKeuner> hi, I have lost snap windows capability in gnome. When I pres ctrl+alt button and select a window to move it does not snap to borders anymore. Did I unintentiaonlly enable/disabe something?
[05:27] <cblboy> yeah, the ubuntu install is fine
[05:27] <cblboy> its the windows install now
[05:27] <poningru> chaz_: gcc4.0 for the dev
[05:27] <cblboy> that has no access to any network resources
[05:27] <jodanlime> huh
[05:27] <richard_> iBalo: i think is a win modem
[05:27] <iBalo> !winmodem
[05:27] <ubotu> hmm... winmodem is To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[05:27] <jodanlime> never heard of that before
[05:27] <cblboy> cant even take it out of the domain to put in workgroup
[05:27] <chaz_> I cant locate a make util
[05:27] <angryfix> If you have two versions of java installed (1.4 and 1.5), how can you tell Ubuntu which version to use as the default?
[05:27] <poningru> MrKeuner: did you try xgl?
[05:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell angryfix about multijava
[05:28] <jodanlime> richard_, win modems are not good, try going to linuxant
[05:28] <MrKeuner> poningru/ no
[05:28] <Alexi5> why does kubuntu looks so crapy comapred to ubuntu
[05:28] <_jason> Alexi5: looks depend on theming really
[05:28] <Mwafrika> Poningru Please let me know.... how to past the list
[05:28] <iBalo> Alexi5: the problem starts with letter k and ends with de :D
[05:29] <jodanlime> cblboy, I know pcworld.com had an article on networking win,lin,mac computers together, might want to check there
[05:29] <angryfix> thanks _jason
[05:29] <MrKeuner> oh now I figured. I have given shift+alt to change keyboard job. that was why...
[05:29] <MrKeuner> what is a good combination to change keyboard layout?
[05:30] <poningru> Mwafrika: oh follow that guide
[05:30] <poningru> hold on
[05:30] <poningru> !tell Mwafrika about pastebin
[05:31] <xxenon> !restricted
[05:31] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:31] <Mwafrika> Poningru: Thanks let me try
[05:31] <Angel_Dex> hmpf
[05:31] <Angel_Dex> !oneko
[05:31] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Angel_Dex
[05:31] <Oli> does anyone run cedega (the time trial) on ubuntu? (Breezy Badger) - I have GTK2 bindigs issue - but sounds all installed maybe I still missing something?
[05:33] <poningru> Angel_Dex: sorry dude I have no idea what oneko is
[05:33] <Angel_Dex> poningru its in the repos its supose to be a rendition of Neko98 thatwas for windows its in the repos
[05:33] <jjjjjjj> hey ubotu can you put this in your database? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[05:34] <xxenon> in dapper, is mp3 support still provided by gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[05:34] <iBalo> no
[05:34] <Mwafrika> Poningru: I have just pasted.... my Name is Mwafrika in the pastebin
[05:34] <xxenon> iBalo - that explains why I cant get mp3 working ..
[05:34] <poningru> Mwafrika: can you get the link?
[05:35] <iBalo> getraemer is at 0.10 there and there's a gstreamer-'bad' metapackage
[05:35] <_jason> jjjjjjj: where do you want him to put it
[05:35] <poningru> ubotu: dapper
[05:35] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[05:35] <cblboy___>  so no one else has had problems with their original windows network connections after installing ubuntu?
[05:35] <xxenon> iBalo - which one provide mp3 support then ?
[05:35] <jjjjjjj> I don't know?  where ever he gets all those other links from i guess.
[05:36] <poningru> ubotu: dapper is also use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[05:36] <_jason> jjjjjjj: you tell him 'foo is bar', then when people do !foo, he says bar.  Just make sure it's useful info
[05:36] <ubotu> poningru: okay
[05:36] <poningru> ubotu: daper
[05:36] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, poningru
[05:36] <poningru> ubotu: dapper
[05:36] <poningru> awesome
[05:36] <Mwafrika> Poningru: i think..... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9188
[05:36] <_jason> heh now it's too long
[05:36] <poningru> Mwafrika: yep
[05:36] <poningru> Mwafrika: sorry what was your problem again?
[05:37] <iBalo> xxenon: read through the gstreamer 0.10 package list... you'll notice
[05:37] <poningru> oh yeah mplayer
[05:37] <poningru> Mwafrika: hmm do this
[05:38] <poningru> sudo apt-get update
[05:38] <Mwafrika> Poningru: Was trying to install Mplayer... it look like it failed to find files and at the last line it said E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[05:38] <poningru> give that command and tell me if it gives any errors
[05:39] <poningru> if no errors then try apt-get install mplayer again
[05:39] <Mwafrika> Poningru: Im waiting....
[05:39] <poningru> for?
[05:39] <xxenon> iBalo - cant find anything, no.
[05:40] <Mwafrika> Poningru: u said mhhh do this then u didnt explain
[05:40] <poningru> [11:38:09]  poningru sudo apt-get update
[05:40] <poningru> sure I did
[05:40] <poningru> sudo apt-get update
[05:40] <Mwafrika> ooh ok
[05:40] <Mwafrika> let me try that.... thanks man
[05:40] <poningru> yep
[05:41] <MrKeuner> will there be xgl in dapper?
[05:41] <ufo> MrKeuner: there is allready
[05:41] <lucasvo> MrKeuner: depends on your help
[05:41] <lucasvo> MrKeuner: ;-)
[05:41] <wastrel> meh
[05:42] <MrKeuner> lucasvo/ my help? I am honored
[05:42] <Mwafrika> Poningru: here is my last line..... E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:42] <jjjjjjj> anyone here upgraded to dapper?
[05:42] <Mwafrika> i doubt if everything is ok there
[05:42] <_jason> jjjjjjj: #ubuntu+1
[05:42] <MrKeuner> ufo/ I tried to meant if it will ship with that by default?
[05:43] <jjjjjjj> th
[05:43] <jjjjjjj> x
[05:43] <xxenon> how do I get mp3 support in dapper ?
[05:43] <poningru> Mwafrika: hmm
[05:43] <Ng> xxenon: pretty much the same as in breezy
[05:43] <poningru> Mwafrika: you are using hoary dude
[05:43] <lucasvo> MrKeuner: yes, Linux lives from the help of the users
[05:43] <Josh1> Does anyone know why gmail has suddenly stopped working on my computer, and all the computers in LAN? Works with other people im talking to on MSN, and gmail notify "sees" the inbox.
[05:44] <xxenon> Ng - nope, doesnt work.
[05:44] <MrKeuner> does suse ship with xgl by default?
[05:44] <_jason> MrKeuner: try #suse maybe
[05:44] <Mwafrika> i doubt if everything is ok there
[05:44] <MrKeuner> lucasvo/ linux is the name of the kernel you know. but you are still right
[05:44] <Ng> xxenon: well dapper is a development branch, so it's unpredictably broken at any one time, but yes, it is the same process as breezy, you just adjust for the new gstreamer package names
[05:44] <poningru> Mwafrika: dude they have stopped supporting hoary
[05:44] <Mwafrika> Ok
[05:45] <poningru> Mwafrika: you have to update to breazy
[05:45] <Mwafrika> so what i do now?
[05:45] <Mwafrika> What do you advice me to do?
[05:45] <Cyorxamp> If I just edited the smb.conf file for a new share - do i need to restart samba? if so - how ?
[05:46] <xxenon> Ng - well nm...I play them with mplayer, it's ok.
[05:46] <poningru> Mwafrika: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:46] <poningru> backup your stuff
[05:47] <poningru> and upgrade
[05:47] <Mwafrika> yeah.... let me check
[05:47] <Mwafrika> i dont have much 4to update
[05:47] <ailean> poningru, i got it working
[05:47] <wastrel> Cyorxamp:  probably something like  sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:47] <Josh1> Does anyone know why gmail has suddenly stopped working on my computer, and all the computers in LAN? Works with other people im talking to on MSN, and gmail notify "sees" the inbox.
[05:47] <poningru> ailean: sweet did that page help at all?
[05:48] <ailean> poningru, but i need to prefix the command with aoss
[05:48] <ailean> poningru, yeah, the page helped
[05:48] <weareallone> hello wise ones, maybe ule be willing to help on this issue-> i can't network with my roommate after he installed ubuntu as well
[05:48] <poningru> awesome
[05:48] <poningru> weareallone: what are you trying to do?
[05:48] <ailean> poningru, all i'll need to do is change all my commands on the start menu for programs that use oss instead of alsa
[05:48] <ailean> poningru, so thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction
[05:48] <poningru> ailean: yp
[05:48] <weareallone> network in my house
[05:49] <weareallone> poningru: both using ubuntu
[05:49] <poningru> weareallone: any routers?
[05:49] <Angel_Dex> is Metacity the WM?
[05:49] <weareallone> yes
[05:49] <poningru> Angel_Dex: yes
[05:49] <Angel_Dex> poningru there is lighter ones no?
[05:49] <poningru> Angel_Dex: yes
[05:49] <poningru> many
[05:50] <weareallone> poningru: yes
[05:50] <poningru> weareallone: then whats the prob?
[05:50] <Angel_Dex> poningru Ok what will i loose if i move to a lighter one?
[05:50] <poningru> Angel_Dex: depends on what you move to
[05:50] <Mwafrika> Poningru: I think updating to breezy is like doing a fresh installation?
[05:50] <Angel_Dex> poningru what do you use?
[05:50] <weareallone> poningru: ask for password to access network, but is not my password
[05:50] <poningru> Mwafrika: no it keeps your data
[05:51] <poningru> weareallone: you have to create a shared folder for that
[05:51] <Mwafrika> Poningru: There is a warning... but it a good step to take.... it will increase my knowledge
[05:51] <poningru> Mwafrika: yeah
[05:51] <poningru> Mwafrika: make sure to backup your data
[05:51] <poningru> weareallone: go into system->admin->shared folder
[05:52] <Puff-n-Stuff> anybody use the wintv pvr-350 or pvr-250 with dapper yet?  uses the driver module and wants me to put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory but I can't find a hotplug firmware directory.
[05:52] <weareallone> poningru: yes
[05:52] <poningru> weareallone: follow the instructions
[05:52] <tortoise> Does anyone know how to enable firewire to act as a network interface?
[05:52] <butze> i just installed dapper and xgl - it works, but i have garbelt graphics when i scroll as well as in the gnome-panel - till i wobble, than all looks fine - someone has the same issue?
[05:53] <poningru> butze: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:53] <JTurek> how do you configure ubuntu for a static ip in console
[05:53] <Mwafrika> Poningru: I think i can only use the CD (which i dont have) cause the terminal command wouldint work as they do refer to source.list to make andy downloads
[05:53] <mikelo> my games are running a lot slower since i started messing around with my video card can anybody help me out?
[05:53] <Draconicus> I've just upgraded my laptop to Dapper Flight 4 via the upgrade, and everything seems to work so far apart from the gscreensaver. 90% of the screensavers won't work. Has anyone else had this problem?
[05:53] <Angel_Dex> poningru ?
[05:53] <ompaul> folks please take dapper conversations to #ubuntu+1
[05:53] <Draconicus> Okay.
[05:54] <Puff-n-Stuff> thanks ompaul ...will do..
[05:54] <ompaul> Puff-n-Stuff, cheers
[05:54] <weareallone> poningru: i have shared files sharing w/smb...
[05:55] <weareallone> poningru: settings?
[05:55] <JTurek> is there a utility to configure the network?
[05:55] <poningru> weareallone: hmm
[05:55] <poningru> weareallone: hold on
[05:55] <weareallone> sorry
[05:55] <jimcooncat> One of the tough parts converting from windows is lack of a graphics capable clipboard. How best to explain to handle graphics to a new Linux user?
[05:55] <weareallone> i half assed know what i'm doin
[05:56] <Mwafrika> Can i parttion my harddisk... install Micro Windows and still work with an existing Ubuntu?
[05:56] <poningru> Mwafrika: yeah ofcourse
[05:56] <poningru> Mwafrika: use dualboot
[05:56] <poningru> !dualboot
[05:56] <ubotu> dualboot is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:57] <jimcooncat> Mwafrika, or run Windows in a VMWare player sesson
[05:57] <nuxil> hello people
[05:58] <Mwafrika> jimcooncat: I dont know what is that VMWare player sesson... but let me read about it
[05:58] <jimcooncat> http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
[05:58] <nuxil> i have a Q? im getting myself a new mobo and cpu,, do i need to do i new install.. or will it work on the current one.. im running the stoc kernel tho.. so the modules should be there
[05:58] <poningru> ompaul: can you handle weareallone cause I have no idea
[05:58] <Mwafrika> cool Jimmcooncat
[05:58] <Puff-n-Stuff> vmware player is a a program to allow you to run an os on top of another os...
[05:59] <weareallone> lol
[05:59] <poningru> nuxil: no need to do anything
[05:59] <nuxil> :) good to hear
[05:59] <poningru> weareallone: yeah sorry dude
[05:59] <m0td> Hey guys, does anyone know of a script I could use to convert .flac files to .ogg (or .mp3) and preserve the tags?
[05:59] <nuxil> poningru, ists a 64 bit cpu tho..
[05:59] <poningru> jimcooncat: what do you mean graphical clipboard
[05:59] <m0td> These are id3v2 tags, fyi
[05:59] <poningru> ?
[05:59] <nuxil> does that mattre
[05:59] <weareallone> its saying that i need to log in to access my ip.... thx anyways ponongru
[05:59] <poningru> nuxil: amd64?
[05:59] <nuxil> yep
[06:00] <nuxil> xp 3700+
[06:00] <poningru> nuxil: yeah it will work fine on stock kernel
[06:00] <nuxil> DDD
[06:00] <jimcooncat> poningru, Windows users can copy/paste graphics snippets from one prog to another
[06:00] <ompaul> weareallone, okay, have you got ssh installed?
[06:00] <poningru> jimcooncat: you can do that
[06:00] <poningru> I copy images all the time
[06:00] <weareallone> samba sharing?
[06:00] <weareallone> ompaul: samba?
[06:01] <herrpoons> hi can anyone tell me how i shut off my ubuntu machine via the command line
[06:01] <jimcooncat> Between different apps? Like an image from firefox into a thunderbird email?
[06:01] <Angel_Dex> What should put in my search cri for lighter WMs then metacity
[06:01] <nuxil> shutdown -t now
[06:01] <ompaul> weareallone, that would be a windows thing okay - all I can do there is point you to a howto if you want
[06:01] <herrpoons> thank you!
[06:01] <poningru> jimcooncat: yeah
[06:01] <nuxil> i thik
[06:01] <poningru> just drag and drop
[06:01] <gwongafa> hi all, i'm looking for some help running unreal tournament 2004 on ubuntu
[06:01] <Mwafrika> Poningru: CDs will take month to be shipped to Tanzania.... is there a Breezy download that i can have and excute it from my Ubuntu
[06:02] <poningru> Mwafrika: do you have a cd burner?
[06:02] <poningru> Mwafrika: you can just do the apt way
[06:02] <Mwafrika> Ponigru: Whats the aptway?
[06:02] <weareallone> well, i'm havin the issue now after my roommate switched from windows to ububntu as well, had no prob here when he was still there... a wiki would be great to start with
[06:02] <poningru> hold on
[06:03] <weareallone> ompaul: i forget to address messages, look up 4 my explanation
[06:04] <ompaul> weareallone, I can see it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently <-- if they don't help come back and lets see if there is anything else we can do
[06:04] <poningru> Mwafrika: same page under apt-get
[06:04] <lupz> a good tool for configuring iptables ?
[06:04] <weareallone> ompaul: thx a lot, hpefully i won't be back
[06:05] <mluser-work> Does anyone know of a repository where I can find mplayer?
[06:05] <jimcooncat> poningru, drag and drop works, thanks!
[06:05] <weareallone> ompaul: sorry, that http one more time?
[06:05] <ompaul> poningru, I was about to say -> why not where is the sense of community in that - we just lost our soon to be samba expert :)
[06:05] <poningru> jimcooncat: yep
[06:06] <ompaul> weareallone, :-)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:06] <poningru> ompaul: hehe
[06:06] <weareallone> THX
[06:06] <chaz_> the kernel source for ubuntu is not installed by default is it?
[06:06] <trappist> no
[06:06] <poningru> chaz_: you can get it from the source repo
[06:07] <trappist> but unless you're building your own kernels all you need is linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:07] <ken> Is there a way to recovery a spreadsheet/workbook in Gnumeric?
[06:07] <chaz_> can I install it from add apps?
[06:07] <iftel> can someone help me ? i want to run a eggdrop on my ubuntu, but i got an error with something like "GCC error" can anyone help me pls ?
[06:07] <ompaul> chaz_, the compiler for the kernel is 3.4 and the 4.0 is available from sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:08] <lili> salu
[06:08] <curley_sue> need help - somethings wrong with my desktop - the mounted FAT32 and NTFS no longer appear in Places (even though they are in /media/ AND I've received a warning: "could not grab your mouse. A Malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session"
[06:08] <mluser-work> Does anyone know of a repository where I can find mplayer?
[06:08] <vanessa> alut
[06:08] <vanessa> alu
[06:08] <wastrel> !mplayer
[06:08] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:08] <vivlachaga> hi what is the actual devel version of ubuntu ( the sid for debian)
[06:08] <mluser-work> thanks
[06:08] <Doktorand> hi!
[06:09] <poningru> iftel: do you have build-essential
[06:09] <vanessa> j'capte pas l'anglais
[06:09] <wastrel> !fr
[06:09] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:09] <Doktorand> i got a big problem, i want to resize a fat32 partition but ubuntu fails!
[06:09] <vanessa> j'ai pas que a a fair
[06:09] <iftel> poningru, what ?
[06:09] <Doktorand> what else can i do?
[06:09] <vanessa> 
[06:10] <vivlachaga> hi what is the actual devel version of ubuntu ( the sid for debian)
[06:10] <vanessa> kiss a tous
[06:10] <poningru> vivlachaga: dapper
[06:10] <vivlachaga> thanks poningru
[06:10] <poningru> Doktorand: what did you use?
[06:10] <Webx> When using grep and dont want to print "false" what do i type?
[06:10] <Angel_Dex> What exactly does meta city do? im kinda at a lose here im use to just worrying about JWM or icewm
[06:10] <Doktorand> pls help, how can it fail resizing the partition???
[06:10] <poningru> Doktorand: use gparted
[06:10] <ompaul> vivlachaga, I was typing an answer, it is talked about in in #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  metacity is the windowmanager for gnome
[06:10] <Doktorand> i am in the installing procedure
[06:10] <vanessa> c koi vot age
[06:11] <Angel_Dex> wastrel ok so what does it DO tho? is it responsible for the animations gnome has?
[06:11] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  the window manager is responsible for placing windows on the display, and drawing window borders, menus, etc.
[06:12] <curley_sue> NEED HELP  -  I've received a warning: "could not grab your mouse. A Malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session" AND somethings wrong with my desktop - the mounted FAT32 and NTFS no longer appear in Places (even though they are in /media/
[06:12] <vanessa> kiz
[06:12] <vanessa> biz
[06:12] <vivlachaga> ompaul, sorry i dont see your answer
[06:12] <Angel_Dex> wastrel Ah Ok So what window manager is lighter but doesnt give up all that stuff?
[06:12] <vanessa> i like you
[06:12] <titi> hi
[06:12] <iftel> poningru, do you have any link with information how to make the eggdrop on ubuntu ?
[06:12] <vanessa> titi c koi ton prnom
[06:13] <titi> ben titi
[06:13] <ompaul>   :)vivlachaga, you asked twice before I got my answer out - to stop you I wrote that but then you got an answer and I just added ->  it is talked about in in #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <titi> et toi ?
[06:13] <vanessa> typhaine
[06:13] <titi> cool
[06:13] <Webx> when using grep how do i "not print" something? loke - in google search?
[06:13] <vanessa> oui ou non
[06:13] <henke> !fr
[06:13] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:13] <vanessa> typhaine petitpas
[06:13] <ompaul> vanessa, et titi ^^^^^^^^
[06:13] <vivlachaga> :D
[06:13] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  the thing with gnome is that it's a desktop environment.  Gnome, KDE and XFCE are all desktop environments.  these are pretty resource hungry.  a windowmanager that just manages windows would be something like fluxbox, sawfish or icewm
[06:13] <titi> :)
[06:13] <vanessa> koi
[06:14] <vanessa> c toi
[06:14] <Doktorand> pls help
[06:14] <vanessa> titi
[06:14] <b00st> heey
[06:14] <b00st> need help
[06:14] <b00st> pm?
[06:14] <Webx> when using grep how do i "not print" something? like - in google search? please?
[06:14] <ompaul> vanessa, pour vous   >>> /join #ubuntu-fr <<<
[06:14] <nkd> b00st: perhaps give a question
[06:14] <vanessa> titi t'es l
[06:14] <titi> voui
[06:14] <nkd> Webx: use the -v switch
[06:14] <cradek> Webx: man grep
[06:15] <vanessa> t'es  quel collge
[06:15] <wastrel> maaan grep
[06:15] <curley_sue> NEED HELP  -  I've received a warning: "could not grab your mouse. A Malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session" AND somethings wrong with my desktop - the mounted FAT32 and NTFS no longer appear in Places (even though they are in /media/
[06:15] <Angel_Dex> wastrel Ok So if i switch from metacity to somthing lighter like openbox what happens?
[06:15] <chaz_> ok build -essential worked great thanks  .. anyone know the path to kernel sourses?
[06:15] <jimcooncat> Webx, >/dev/null
[06:15] <titi> quitt l' cole
[06:15] <vanessa> titi t a quel collge
[06:15] <cblboy> ok, so i have a dual boot
[06:15] <Doctor_p> Hola
[06:15] <cblboy> with winows xp and ubuntu
[06:15] <Doctor_p> necesito ayuda
[06:15] <Doctor_p> alguien habla espaol
[06:15] <vanessa> titi
[06:15] <oc16> hello can you se this?
[06:15] <vanessa> titi
[06:15] <titi> hola
[06:15] <vanessa> titi
[06:15] <ompaul> !es
[06:15] <cradek> !es
[06:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:15] <henke> !es
[06:16] <titi> vanessa
[06:16] <cblboy> the only problem is that in the windows install, i no longer have any network connections
[06:16] <cblboy> i can get to the internet
[06:16] <cblboy> but no network resources
[06:16] <javiolo> docto_p join #ubuntu-es
[06:16] <cblboy> anybody know of any suggestions i can try?
[06:16] <oc16> hello?
[06:16] <cblboy> would be greatly appreciated
[06:16] <javiolo> doctor_p join #ubuntu-es
[06:16] <b00st> ubuntu dont find my network cards =/ [ msg if you can help ] 
[06:16] <nkd> oc16: yes we hear u just ask a question
[06:16] <oc16> oh ok
[06:16] <oc16> hello, does anybody know a program where you dont need your pc to be a server to have  network graph like MRTG?
[06:16] <titi> ifconfig
[06:16] <henke> cblboy: that doesn't sound ubuntu related
[06:16] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  it's just not as integrated, you won't have the menus and panels, the desktop icons, the GUI configuration wizards, the drag & drop functions
[06:16] <titi> must have etho and lo
[06:17] <nkd> b00st: do you know how to open a shell/terminal? if so, do so
[06:17] <Mr_King> Hello
[06:17] <jimcooncat> cblboy, just because you set up dual-boot shouldn't change your connections with Windows
[06:17] <curley_sue> NEED HELP  -  I've received a warning: "could not grab your mouse. A Malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session" AND somethings wrong with my desktop - the mounted FAT32 and NTFS no longer appear in Places (even though they are in /media/
[06:17] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  you'll have windows and menus and some sort of control bar
[06:17] <cblboy> it must be, it only happened after the install of ubuntu
[06:17] <nkd> b00st: then type "ifconfig" and put the output on a pastebin somewhere
[06:17] <b00st> nkd msg ?
[06:17] <Angel_Dex> wastrel Um? i thought all that was Gnome?
[06:17] <nkd> b00st: do it here, so we can have input from other people
[06:17] <b00st> i use a another pc now
[06:17] <Doktorand> it says in red: failed to create enough space for installation!!!
[06:18] <jimcooncat> cblboy, you have network shares on you LAN you're not seeing?
[06:18] <iBalo> curley_sue: this looks like a dbus issue... but i can't help in detail
[06:19] <Alexi5> my ubuntu has been up for 24 hours and no reboot
[06:19] <oc16> nkd: do you know a program where you dont need your pc to be a server to have  network graph like MRTG?
[06:19] <curley_sue> iBalo: I don know much but from experiments Ie been running the whole day u seem to be right. the question is what to do...
[06:19] <southern> hi all
[06:19] <defrysk> Alexi5, AMAZING!!
[06:19] <ompaul> Alexi5, it should manage months
[06:19] <cblboy> jimcooncat: all i get is internet, can't see network connections
[06:19] <Alexi5> kool
[06:19] <cblboy> can't even use command line to gain net access
[06:19] <stu> oc16 - you could try PRTG
[06:19] <jimcooncat> cblboy, when you're in ubuntu can you see them then?
[06:19] <nkd> oc16: not off hand. someone else might, or just google for network statistic generators and look at them for one
[06:19] <cblboy> no
[06:19] <ompaul> defrysk, was that scarcasm or just a sudden bout of extreme joy? ;-)
[06:19] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  you're talking about changing your gnome wm from metacity to openbox, or replacing metacity/gnome with just openbox?  i don't know whether openbox has gnome integration
[06:19] <iBalo> curley_sue: grab the backups? :-)
[06:20] <curley_sue> iBalo ??
[06:20] <Angel_Dex> wastrel keeping Gnome and switching meta to open
[06:20] <Alexi5> i ave windows xp on another machine and i can't tell when last  i have used it. i mainly use the ubuntu machine
[06:20] <chaz_> has anyone gotten ndiswrapper working on ubuntu  successfully?
[06:20] <southern> guys which is the best iptables generator?
[06:20] <bestadvocate> man, after you pass the 6000 song mark its hard to get a music player that can handle the whole playlist.
[06:20] <Deramin> is there any way to reduce the about of time ubuntu takes setting up network interfaces at startup? I'm using it on  laptop that is constantly switching wireless networks.
[06:20] <Alexi5> this OS is so great
[06:20] <jimcooncat> cblboy, you can ping the computer that has the share you're trying to reach?
[06:20] <cblboy> yes
[06:20] <lupz> a good tool for configuring iptables ?
[06:21] <southern> yes
[06:21] <linkd> nkd
[06:21] <Deramin> Alexi5: agreed
[06:21] <cblboy> i also have internet
[06:21] <southern> like shorewall
[06:21] <Deramin> ~amount of time
[06:21] <jimcooncat> and you had it working before you loaded ubuntu
[06:21] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  ah.  i don't know, never done it.  I imagine you'd get different window management options, different window border & decorations...  dunno about performance
[06:21] <ompaul> southern, you are, :) what services are you running on the box that need protection?
[06:21] <Angel_Dex> wastrel oks many thanks
[06:21] <cblboy> yes, everything was fine before the ubuntu install
[06:22] <iBalo> curley_sue: you could try if 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall dbus' changes something (not very likely)
[06:22] <southern> ompaul :DDD
[06:22] <cblboy> i might just re-ghost the pc with xp and put ubuntu on a standalone
[06:22] <southern> but I'm noob... :D
[06:22] <b00st> .
[06:22] <ompaul> southern, if your not running services then you don't need it
[06:22] <b00st> i have write ifconfig in terminal NOW!
[06:22] <jimcooncat> cblboy, you can do that but it sounds like some other issue that needs to be worked out.
[06:22] <curley_sue> iBalo: already tried... no-go. any other ideas?
[06:22] <southern> ompaul
[06:22] <southern> I've some question so
[06:23] <nkd> b00st: copy and paste the output in a paste bin
[06:23] <wastrel> Deramin:  if you find out, let me know :]   as i understand it the delay is caused by DHCP for some reason.   you can hit ctrl-c to skip that step & continue the boot process
[06:23] <southern> there is a default iptables
[06:23] <southern> where can I set it?
[06:23] <southern> where is the conf file
[06:23] <southern> ?
[06:23] <ompaul> southern, there is a tool, most people don't need it -it is called firestarted
[06:23] <iBalo> curley_sue: that depends on what you did to mess things up..
[06:23] <ompaul> southern,  called firestarter <--- oops
[06:23] <southern> or where do I have to 'touch' it?
[06:24] <Deramin> wastrel: that won't hurt anything in startup? It's just incredably annoying to be sitting around for 10 minutes before class just trying to get the dang laptop booted.
[06:24] <ompaul> southern, no that tool will do it all for you
[06:24] <southern> :|
[06:24] <ompaul> southern, as I said alredy you don't need one unless your running services - by default Ubuntu does not run services
[06:25] <southern> I want ssh, samba, squid
[06:25] <kos__> my windows partitions (ntfs) are being auto detected and icons on the desktop show up, but they are owned by root and i cant access them at all
[06:25] <b00st> nkd; i sit on a another computer now, how can i copy and paste it here?
[06:25] <wastrel> Deramin:  no, boot will continue fine, it just skips the network configuration step.  i do it all the time, when you see "configuring network interfaces" or whatever it is
[06:25] <ompaul> southern, are they behind a router? or facing the big bad internet?
[06:25] <Deramin> wastrel: alright. cool.
[06:26] <nkd> b00st: oh. ok well thats tricky, lemme ask u about it anyone, does it have a heading "eth0" and "lo" anywhere?
[06:26] <southern> facing teh big bad internet
[06:26] <ompaul> southern, you can use firestarter
[06:26] <nkd> *about it instead
[06:26] <southern> it is based on iptables?
[06:26] <curley_sue> iBalo I couldn't agree more. I wish I known. could you take a look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9189
[06:26] <b00st> nkd: it have lo at the top
[06:26] <cblboy> thanks jimcooncat...i'll prob be back with more questions.  thanks again
[06:26] <nkd> b00st: does it have eth0 anywhere?
[06:26] <ompaul> southern, install and enjoy - any firewalls I know on Linux use IP Tables - or else they don't work :-)
[06:27] <b00st> nkd: no
[06:27] <ompaul> southern, all the firewalls are really just front ends for configuring iptables
[06:27] <nkd> ok hold on im thinking
[06:27] <southern> I see
[06:27] <jjjjjjj> can i just change my dhcp status to static?  my isp don't care.
[06:27] <jjjjjjj> or do i have to reboot
[06:28] <iBalo> curley_sue: Uh oh! does 'sudo apt-get -f install' run... you have broken packages
[06:28] <farous> jjjjjjj: no need to reboot
[06:28] <jjjjjjj> (y)  that's msn for thumbs up
[06:28] <farous> jjjjjjj: just ifdown and ifup will do the trick
[06:29] <wastrel> i love me some static ip
[06:29] <_pg> Hi there, my cdrom 8
[06:30] <_pg> darn.... my cdrom doesn't allow me to boot, what can I do? (i386 pc)
[06:30] <_pg> is there a bootdisk that I can use to install the current ubuntu?
[06:31] <nkd> b00st: type "cd /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/" then type "ls" is eth0 there?
[06:31] <wastrel> ik ga weg
[06:32] <iBalo> _pg: there's a floppy called smart-bootmanager available somewher on the net. This can help you boot from CD
[06:32] <kos_> my windows partitions (ntfs) are being auto detected and icons on the desktop show up, but they are owned by root and i cant access them at all
[06:32] <curley_sue> iBalo I didnt understand...
[06:32] <kos_> any ideas?
[06:32] <jjjjjjj> how do i know what my gateway is using linux?  had to log into a remote router to get it.  :$
[06:32] <iBalo> curley_sue: Just run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and see what happens
[06:33] <kos_> jjjjjjj, nmap -O ip.of.gateway
[06:33] <_pg> iBalo, I have tried 'sbootmgr.dsk', but it din't list my scsi cdrom. Don't ask me where I got that bootmanager from
[06:33] <Alexi5> gnome really rocks
[06:33] <b00st> nkd: then i get "all default lo"
[06:33] <jjjjjjj> nmap command not found
[06:34] <wastrel> jjjjjjj:  you need to know your gateway address?  what is your IP address?
[06:34] <jjjjjjj> 64.46.3.182
[06:34] <curley_sue> iBalo here it is ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9190
[06:34] <kos_> jjjjjjj, port scan that IP and tell me the ports
[06:34] <southern> ompaul
[06:34] <iBalo> _pg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto?highlight=%28boot%29%7C%28CD%29
[06:34] <nkd> kos_: type on a terminal "gedit /etc/fstab" then on the line which has ur ntfs partition near the flags (itll be like ro,defaults,user etc) add "umask=0222" i *think* thatll work
[06:34] <farous> jjjjjjj: if you have a router then you default gateway address is the router address
[06:34] <kbrooks> Why dapper?
[06:35] <southern> firestarter uses gui? (because I don't)
[06:35] <jjjjjjj> no router
[06:35] <_pg> iBalo, thanks for the link, I'll try that
[06:35] <nkd> b00st: ok, im not sure where to go from here, what card is it? might need to ask other people for help now im afraid :(
[06:35] <farous> southern: check shorewall
[06:35] <nkd> kos_: i mean, type "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[06:35] <farous> you need to edit the config file manually though
[06:35] <wastrel> jjjjjjj:  try this command:  arp
[06:36] <b00st> nkd: ok, all default lo is all commands
[06:36] <kos_> nkd, thanks
[06:36] <Webx> Anyone knows what the device name for the firsr floppy drive is?
[06:36] <nkd> kos_: works?
[06:36] <Webx> first*
[06:36] <Ng> Webx: /dev/fd0
[06:36] <kos_> nkd, not in ubuntu now, keeps crashing coz my grfx card is bust, will try tomorrow at work
[06:37] <b00st> nkd: i try`d example  "ls all"
[06:37] <nkd> kos_: ull need to remount it after the changes, type "umount /dev/hdX" where X is the drive & partition then "mount /dev/hdX"
[06:37] <b00st> nkd: and got much more information
[06:37] <iBalo> curley_sue: then try to 'sudo apt-get remove hwdb-client' first and then 'sudo apt-get -f install' again
[06:37] <kos_> nkd, know that one, cheers
[06:37] <b00st> nkd: but not eth0
[06:37] <kos_> nkd, im new to ubuntu, usually a gentoo user
[06:37] <jjjjjjj> yes... arp does give my the gateway
[06:37] <bliss> hello all
[06:37] <jjjjjjj> hello bliss
[06:38] <nkd> kos_: gotcha, in my fstab i have the flags ro,user,dmask=0000. but i heard some people use umask=0222 so just be aware of that
[06:38] <ompaul> jjjjjjj, sorry route tells you what it is, it is also where you set it
[06:38] <bliss> al my ports 1024 are filtered does that me blocked
[06:38] <bliss> jjjj hello
[06:38] <iBalo> kos_: rumour has it that ubuntu is an african saying for 'i'm tired of compiling' ;-)
[06:38] <jjjjjjj> ah yes... route
[06:38] <ompaul> bliss, if you hit tab it would complete the nick for you (in most irc clients)
[06:39] <_pg> iBalo: my cdrom is a scsi cdrom, the smart boot mgr seems to support only ide ones
[06:39] <jjjjjjj> arp did tell me but i only knew that cuz i logged into a router to find it
[06:39] <vinidomine> hellog-day
[06:39] <jjjjjjj> me and a router are sharing the connection with a hub
[06:39] <iBalo> _pg: Can you run DOS and have acces to the CD-ROM there?
[06:39] <kos_> iBalo, not really, i use gentoo for all my network routers and servers. compiling and optimization is quite funky :) but as far as desktops are concerned, im giving Ubuntu a shot and liking it.
[06:39] <GTX> Guy's I run ubuntu on my servers, however users can see into peoples first home directory, how can I fix this.
[06:40] <b00st> nkd: you can not help me?
[06:40] <_pg> yes
[06:40] <nkd> b00st: im afraid not, i dont know enough :(
[06:40] <vinidomine> I'm looking for info on getting audio on Thinkpad 600E IBM. Thanks'
[06:40] <kos_> im still trying to get to grips with the whole apt-get thing :)
[06:40] <farous> GTX: man chmod
[06:40] <_pg> iBalo: btw: i have a linux already installed on the system
[06:40] <bliss> ompaul thanks
[06:40] <Webx> how do i know what the name of the first partitionn on  the second ide drive is?
[06:40] <curley_sue> iBalo, it demands removing also: hwdb-client ubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <farous> GTX: you need to change the permissions
[06:40] <GTX> farous, I need chmod
[06:40] <southern> PLS HELP
[06:40] <_pg> iBalo: some old debian
[06:40] <GTX> farous, To what thoe
[06:40] <curley_sue> iBalo, is that OK?
[06:41] <ompaul> Webx, sudo fdisk -l
[06:41] <farous> GTX: depend how you did set it the users and groups
[06:41] <nkd> b00st: i gotta go now anyway, good luck!
[06:41] <GTX> farous, There in /home/
[06:41] <bliss> i notice on boot up there is a IP spoofing thing calles rp_filter how to remove
[06:41] <GTX> farous, so I'd have to chmod /home/ ?
[06:41] <iBalo> _pg: search the wiki... this old debian could  help a lot.. i recall having seen a howto on installing ubuntu from other distros
[06:41] <kos_> how do u pronounce ubuntu?
[06:41] <vinidomine> is there an audio setup command?
[06:41] <Webx> ompaul: dont got the harddriv inte the computer yet.. you know what its going to be?
[06:42] <linkd> u-bun-to. thats how i pronounce it
[06:42] <iBalo> curley_sue: yes let apt-get sort it out for you
[06:42] <farous> gtx tell me what you want them to see exactly
[06:42] <_pg> iBalo: ok, I'll search the wiki
[06:42] <farous> but basically you need to read the man pages
[06:42] <GTX> farous, only there directory, I dont want them to be able to cd /home/
[06:42] <GTX> and see other users
[06:42] <southern> I've setuped ubuntu, but I've got error at boot: mdadmm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2)
[06:42] <southern> I haven't made raid!!!!!!!
[06:43] <southern> I don't understand it
[06:43] <bliss> jjjjjjj /ompaul how to remove IP spoofing filter rp_filter
[06:43] <ompaul> Webx, hate to say this to you, :-) where are you going to put it (that determines the name) master ide 0 = hda, slave ide =hdb, master ide 1 =hdc and slave ide 1 = hdd
[06:43] <farous> GTX: i only know how to set it that they can not enter the dir of other users. but they can cd to the home dir
[06:43] <GTX> farous, yeah thats what i want
[06:43] <GTX> so they cannot enter dir of other users
[06:43] <ompaul> bliss, you want to be spoofed?
[06:44] <curley_sue> iBalo, it seems ok (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9191) what's nxt?
[06:44] <ompaul> bliss, if it is a module then rmmod
[06:44] <kishan> Can anyone please point me to a pre-compiled binary of Firefox 1.5.0.1 with CTL support?
[06:44] <ompaul> kishan, I don't know if this is the answer
[06:44] <kos_> how come Mplayer is not in the packages?
[06:44] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[06:44] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:44] <wastrel> what's ctl support?
[06:44] <kos_> whats the deal with the universe/multiverse thing?
[06:44] <farous> GTX: sudo chmod 700 /home/<user name> will give this user acess to his dir to read write and execute
[06:44] <Drac|Laptop> This is really more of a question for ubuntu+1, but... Where are the gscreensaver screensaver files located? I'm going to try replacing them with the original xscreensaver screensavers. The gscreensavers installed don't work.
[06:45] <ompaul> kos_, you know what main is?
[06:45] <jjjjjjj> sorrry bliss..don't know
[06:45] <ompaul> !repositries
[06:45] <ubotu> ompaul: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:45] <GTX> farous, ?
[06:45] <ompaul> !repos
[06:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:45] <GTX> farous, I want to do it on all users.
[06:45] <kishan> CTL: Complex Text Layout
[06:45] <bliss> ompaul no its just that my friend did a scan and found that 1024 of my ports are filtered but I do not know what is filtering them
[06:45] <vortex_2nd> Hi - anyone in here running XEN on ubuntu 5.10 server ? i have some probs with my compiled kernel and maybe EVMS
[06:45] <ompaul> kos_,  ^^^ places where lots of packages live
[06:46] <ompaul> bliss, ahh you mean your machine is not doing anything that is the way of the world
[06:46] <farous> GTX i recommend it one by one or use wild card do not know if it will work
[06:46] <iBalo> curley_sue: that's it... try if everything'S working now
[06:46] <farous> GTX: do not want something to break :)
[06:46] <Drac|Laptop> Sorry. I meant gnome-screensaver, not gscreensaver. I thought that was what it was called. :P
[06:46] <ompaul> bliss, unless you have services there is no conversation to be had
[06:46] <curley_sue> iBalo,  ok I'll try to restart...
[06:46] <wastrel> xscreensaver
[06:46] <Webx> ompaul: sorry about that =) im a reall noob ;) whell its going to be on slave and the first partion on that disk will be /dev/hdb1 or? dont really get it :)
[06:46] <jjjjjjj> anyone here upgraded to dapper?
[06:46] <iBalo> lol
[06:47] <bliss> ompaul yes cannot connect from outside my machine to ssh but  server is running port 22
[06:47] <Zealot|atwork> nup not yet
[06:47] <Zealot|atwork> is it good
[06:47] <Zealot|atwork> Nick Zealot
[06:47] <ompaul> Webx, you are correct
[06:47] <farous> GTX: you have to man it. some of the . hidden files need to be read by others so take care
[06:47] <Zealot|atwork> wrong window
[06:47] <ompaul> bliss, you running firestarter?
[06:47] <kos_> why isnt divx/xvid etc installed by default?
[06:48] <iBalo> !codecs
[06:48] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[06:48] <jjjjjjj> i should have stayed in school
[06:48] <linkd> kos_: i think it costs money
[06:48] <ompaul> bliss, or is there something (router or something) between you and the internet
[06:48] <Webx> ompaul: thanks for the help
[06:48] <bliss> ompaul no I do not think only firewall in router thats go 22 forwared
[06:48] <aaronshaf> Is there anyway I can play the iTunes-bought music on Ubuntu from my iPod?
[06:48] <ompaul> Webx, call back you'll learn lots :)
[06:49] <ompaul> bliss, if it is outside your network check if the router is letting it in, if it is not then what is your isp doing
[06:49] <kos_> linkd, hmm ok
[06:49] <wastrel> ssh is good
[06:49] <kos_> what about the crazyness of installing the new firefox, bit much init?
[06:49] <farous> craxyness !!!!
[06:50] <ltibor65> Hi guys! A question: Can I write ntfs patition of Windows from Ubuntu?
[06:50] <farous> installing the latest firefox is as simple as downloading it ;)
[06:50] <curley_sue> iBalo, another thing b4 i restart: is there anything to do with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9192
[06:51] <iBalo> This only python stuff... shouldn't prevent booting
[06:51] <kos_> farous, not according to the ubuntu wiki
[06:51] <ompaul> kos_, why is it needed, ubuntu/debian are not about rattners shiny they are about luxurious deep rich polish :)
[06:51] <Drac|Laptop> Nobody knows where gnome-screensaver keeps its screensavers?
[06:51] <farous> kos_: you can download it to your home dir and just use it
[06:51] <vinidomine> anyone please? I need help config audio on a thinkpad 600e
[06:52] <kos_> ompaul, because there are several vulnerabilities and speed fixes in 1.5.1
[06:52] <farous> ompaul: some of the bugs in firefox 1.07 are corrected in 1.5. So for firefox this is the exception to the rule :)
[06:52] <bliss> isp does not block 22 how to check if router is letting it in did netstat -tln tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[06:52] <jjjjjjj> when i right click a link in xchat... how can i get rid of the mozilla option?
[06:52] <wabble> vlc firefox plugin, anybody knows how to get it to work?
[06:52] <wastrel> Drac|Laptop:  did you try a locate?
[06:53] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i enable mozilla-mplayer in firefox??
[06:53] <ompaul> kos_, security issues get dealt with in the "stable" distro
[06:53] <MetaMorfoziS> i installed it but about:plugins not list it
[06:53] <Draconicus> Whoops, wastrel, I'm here for the moment, not on the Laptop. "Hibernate" turned it off. :P
[06:53] <MacSlow> MetaMorfoziS, did you _restart_ firefox _after_ you installed mozilla-player?
[06:53] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: did you cpy or link the plugin to your .mozilla/plugins dir
[06:53] <Draconicus> By the way, wastrel, the space heater computer project is coming along quite nicely. I just need a way to drill holes and cut metal.
[06:54] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm restarted
[06:54] <bliss> ompaul   isp does not block 22 how to check if router is letting it in did netstat -tln tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[06:54] <MetaMorfoziS> locate: mozilla-mplayer?
[06:54] <MetaMorfoziS> or where i copy?
[06:54] <iBalo> MetaMorfoziS: it's probly installd in one of the many fire_something folders in /usr/lib and needs a symlink to the correcr plugin folder
[06:54] <Zealot|atwork> yah, i had to correct my symlink
[06:54] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: which firefox you are running
[06:54] <wastrel> makita & a dremel tool :] 
[06:54] <Draconicus> Oh wow! Hibernate DIDN'T shut it off! Pressing the power button brought it back to life! :D
[06:54] <MetaMorfoziS> 1.5
[06:54] <Zealot|atwork> lol
[06:54] <MetaMorfoziS> from /opt/firefox
[06:54] <farous> you need to cpy or do a sim link
[06:55] <jjjjjjj> meta have you tried synaptic package manager?
[06:55] <farous> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[06:55] <Angel_Dex> Is TinyWM a replacement for meta city or is it a Entire desktop thingitself that i can choose in sessions on login?
[06:55] <farous> thats where you will find plugin
[06:55] <tallmf> guys..how do I mount my NTFS drive in Ubuntu?!
[06:55] <MacSlow> MetaMorfoziS, ah... so you didn't install/use packages for an official repository for either firefox and/or the mozilla-mplayer-plugin?
[06:55] <b00st> nkd?
[06:56] <MetaMorfoziS> from adept
[06:56] <MacSlow> MetaMorfoziS, that would explain why it doesn't work right out-of-the-box after installation and a restart
[06:56] <MetaMorfoziS> (kde's package manager)
[06:56] <tallmf> guys..how do I mount my NTFS drive in Ubuntu?!
[06:56] <iBalo> !ntfs
[06:56] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:56] <MacSlow> MetaMorfoziS, ehm... wait... I'm on dapper here... not sure if firefox usually lands in /opt under Breezy (or what are you using?)
[06:56] <kos_> tallmf, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountNtfsOnBoot?highlight=%28ntfs%29
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, kubuntu
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> in /opt/firefox
[06:58] <Angel_Dex> anyone?
[06:58] <Zealot|atwork> Hey guys, to reiterate a question earlier, ive completely forgotten how, whats the comman to allow me to write to an ntfs partitiion?
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> in usr/lib/mozila/plugins
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> i found mplayer plugins
[06:58] <xnull> unmask
[06:58] <iBalo> Zealot|atwork: format c:
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> ~20piece
[06:58] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: link all plugins in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins in the dir .mozilla/plugins
[06:58] <TED^> hello, i'm new to ubuntu and linux can anyone help me with a question ?
[06:59] <farous> then restart firefox
[06:59] <Angel_Dex> Is TinyWM a replacement for meta city or is it a Entire desktop thingitself that i can choose in sessions on login?
[06:59] <curley_sue> iBalo, do u have a  moment to take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9192  b4 i try to restart?
[06:59] <wastrel> TED^:  go ahead and ask the question
[07:00] <MacSlow> TED^, yeah... never ask to ask... just ask :)
[07:00] <bliss> ompaul any other ideas
[07:00] <wastrel> we don't know if we can help until we hear it ;] 
[07:00] <iBalo> curley_sue: this is unimportant stuff...
[07:00] <TED^> wastrel does ubuntu run on a compaq presario k6/2 366 mhz ?
[07:00] <iBalo> some python not compiling on your system
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i copyed
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> all
[07:00] <Angel_Dex> Why no one answer? it simple yes or no que
[07:00] <wabble> so.. vlc firefox plugin, anybody knows how to get it to work streaming movies in firefox?
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> files from /lib... to ~/.mozilla...
[07:01] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: restart firefox and go ahead and use it
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> it said
[07:01] <jessy> someone can help me in choosing a desktop recorder ? i've tested istanbul but, it crashed after 30secondes recording, is there another one ?N
[07:01] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: .mozilla/plugins/
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> firefox is already running
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> but i stopped it
[07:01] <rodrigo> can some one help me with net config
[07:01] <curley_sue> iBalo do u have an idea how can it be fixed (I didn't manage to solve it through google...)
[07:01] <HappyFool> Angel_Dex: perhaps no-one knows the answer
[07:01] <iBalo> wabble: i tried it, too. Never got it to work, so i use mplayer or the tom-xine plugin
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> and in top i didn't see
[07:01] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: in a terminal type killall firefox-bin
[07:01] <rodrigo> i mean homepage starts
[07:01] <iBalo> curley_sue: no
[07:01] <rodrigo> but nothing else
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@kisgep:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins$ killall firefox-bin
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> firefox-bin: no process killed
[07:02] <curley_sue> iBalo thanx. restarting
[07:02] <MacSlow> TED^, never tried to run linux/ubuntu on something like this... might be a bit of a drag... but try it (do you happen to have a live CD you can boot up that machine)
[07:02] <Angel_Dex> HappyFool somone has to know tho
[07:02] <ompaul> bliss, ssh -C user@locahost see if you can get in from the local box
[07:02] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: you copied to .mozilla/plugins/    right
[07:02] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[07:02] <MacSlow> the fact that the liveCD would be running of the CD-ROM of course slows it down fruther
[07:02] <farous> ok restart x
[07:03] <farous> log out and in
[07:03] <MetaMorfoziS> ok:)
[07:03] <MacSlow> TED^, you might want to _not_ try to run Gnome or KDE as a desktop-environemnt on that.. but rather stick to the xfce-environemnt... it a bit leaner on resources
[07:03] <johnny12> hi everyone
[07:05] <exxpert> !mp3
[07:05] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:05] <TED^> MacSlow yes, but i want to do some surfing and some chat on it..so
[07:05] <Josh1> Can anyone tell me how to use my extra harddrive as a swap or whatever its called for use if my primary harddrive runs out of space (its an old 5 gig the primary and its only got 500 megs of space left)
[07:05] <bliss> ompaul yep no problem
[07:05] <Zealot|atwork> Macslow, Ted, I have run linux on that EXACT config, runs slightly slow, although i had only 128mb of ram, so try for more, xfce was the goer in the end, but in the end, it was just a mailserver, so it wasnt an issue, and i think browsing and chat might be doable
[07:06] <iBalo> Josh1: how big is the 2nd one?
[07:06] <Josh1> iBalo, 37 gigs
[07:06] <rodrigo> Hi
[07:06] <rodrigo> Can someone help me???
[07:06] <ompaul> bliss, okay so maybe its upstream from you
[07:06] <rodrigo> please
[07:06] <Zealot|atwork> You will really be limited to what you have open simultaneously
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> thanx all
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> it's works fine
[07:06] <ompaul> bliss, router or some such
[07:06] <MacSlow> TED^, there you have it... Zealot|atwork mentioned that it is usable... going with xfce so give it a shot
[07:06] <johnny12> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my laptop and it never asked for me to put in  a root password but it turns out it assigned me one, what could it be
[07:07] <kronos> hello
[07:07] <TED^> MacSlow k...10x
[07:07] <trappist> johnny12: there is no root password
[07:07] <MetaMorfoziS> hey
[07:07] <St_Iron> good afternood
[07:07] <St_Iron> n
[07:07] <trappist> !root
[07:07] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:07] <kronos> how do i install mysql on ubuntu ?
[07:07] <iBalo> Josh1: what about shifting the whoe system to the big (and _fast_ one) and sending the old 5gig into retirement?
[07:07] <MetaMorfoziS> csa St_Iron
[07:07] <MetaMorfoziS> :DDD
[07:07] <bliss> ompaul router is forwarding port 22 what abut the ip spofing rf_filter
[07:07] <St_Iron> hello MetaMorfoziS
[07:07] <johnny12> what really
[07:07] <johnny12> superuser?
[07:08] <lin_world> johnny12: if u want to set root pass, the "sudo su" and then "passwd"
[07:08] <trappist> johnny12: you use sudo
[07:08] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: did it work now
[07:08] <Josh1> iBalo: That would be great, could I still save the 5 gig just incase something went wrong?
[07:08] <bliss> ompaul you can do a nmap if you want
[07:08] <MetaMorfoziS> so farous , the mplayer is laod, but when it's downloaded the movie it said stopped.
[07:08] <MetaMorfoziS> like this:
[07:08] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.break.com/index/drivebyprank.html
[07:08] <ompaul> lin_world, we dont advocate that it is on the page if the user wants to do it
[07:08] <GTX> How do I lock an account on my ubuntu server so it only works with an certain ip address?
[07:08] <wastrel> i had linux on a 333 celeron system ran just fine
[07:08] <johnny12> ok let me try that one sec and thanks
[07:09] <jessy> !video
[07:09] <ubotu> jessy: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:09] <farous> MetaMorfoziS: not all media files will work proparly
[07:09] <weareallone> guess what i need to be askin u guys is how do i set up an in home network with 2 linux machines
[07:09] <iBalo> Josh, of course... Just make sure that 'old slowhand' isn't sharing the same IDE channel with the moden drive
[07:09] <kronos> how can i install mysql on ubuntu ?
[07:09] <MetaMorfoziS> kronos: try xammpp
[07:09] <Josh1> iBalo: The modem is USB, lol.
[07:09] <MetaMorfoziS> www.xampp.org
[07:09] <Zealot|atwork> ksoftirqd - what is this process?
[07:10] <Josh1> kronos: I got mysql working by reading www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:10] <ompaul> bliss, gotta cook dinner
[07:10] <Zealot|atwork> kthread - and whats this process?
[07:10] <kumkum> hello everyone
[07:10] <wabble> does anybody know if the issues with networking and static ip's on kde will be fixed for dapper?
[07:11] <iBalo> Josh1: i see... If you feel adventurous you could try to swap the drives. Many USB-drives are just standard IDE-ones with an adapter.
[07:11] <kronos> MetaMorfoziS: i tried apt-get install ... but it sais that the pkg cannot be found
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not a package
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> see ^^ site
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> easy to isntall
[07:11] <kronos> ok
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> 2lines of cmd line:D
[07:11] <bliss> ompaul so have I give a turn after eating
[07:11] <kos_> how can i get the latest skype?
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> the second is the start:)
[07:11] <weareallone> poningru or umpaul: maybe i should ask how do network 2 linux machines in my house. looked dall over wiki and am not getting anywhere
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> kos_ apt-get ?:D
[07:12] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not the latest but the latest stable:) i think
[07:12] <Josh1> iBalo: I think its fine at the moment, i just want to get the harddrive switched over. Im guessing it cant be done while running ubuntu?
[07:12] <kumkum> someone can help me in finding derectory for download program when using synaptic
[07:12] <zebraFusion> I have a serious problem that's REALLY starting to get to me: I'll be typing rnadomly (AIM, Xchat) abd all assuden X will die and it will either restart automatically or it just put me back the command prompt, how can I unbind these commands - they're not in key shortcuts)
[07:13] <chris12349> is anyone having problems with the gnome-panel after the lastest dapper update?
[07:13] <bliss> ompaulopaul just do a ssh to 4096.net
[07:13] <kos__> anyone running Skype?
[07:13] <southern> Question: I've made raid1(mirror) at setup this is the "/". At boot time I get the following message: "mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2)". And I wonder is it normally????
[07:13] <iBalo> Josh1: USB is slow... and not always accessible right at boot time. Don't use a usb-disk for swap
[07:13] <St_Iron> yes, kos_
[07:13] <anto9us> kumkum, right click the installed package, select properties then Installed Files
[07:13] <Josh1> iBalo: Nonono, I have a USB modem, both the harddrives are IDE.
[07:14] <iBalo> Josh1: Ahhh... typo misunderstandin :-)
[07:14] <kumkum> ok, thank's anto9us :)
[07:14] <southern> anybody help?
[07:14] <LinuxJones> chris12349: no mine seems ok
[07:14] <southern> Question: I've made raid1(mirror) at setup this is the "/". At boot time I get the following message: "mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2)". And I wonder is it normally????
[07:14] <chris12349> hmm I'
[07:14] <bliss> ompaul yee just a ssh to 22 at 4096.net
[07:14] <kos__> St_Iron, hard to install?
[07:14] <chris12349> ll do some more testing thanks LinuxJones
[07:14] <Josh1> iBalo: Lol, yes i guess.
[07:14] <linuxnewbie> hello. sorry for another stupid question but still.. what is a video card driver for the x server?
[07:14] <St_Iron> no
[07:14] <St_Iron> it's not hard
[07:15] <LinuxJones> chris12349: GL
[07:15] <St_Iron> only apt-get install skype
[07:15] <iBalo> Josh1: just do an fdisk -l  an paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:15] <Josh1> iBalo: Whats the best way to copy all my data to the other harddrive?
[07:15] <kos__> St_Iron, i thought there is no package for it or something
[07:15] <St_Iron> or you can download the latest stable .deb package
[07:15] <Zealot|atwork> And guys, if i were to remote into my linux box, what port would i use?
[07:15] <iBalo> Josh1: just do an fdisk -l  and paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:15] <Josh1> iBalo: Ok will do
[07:15] <wastrel> ssh is port 22
[07:15] <johnny12> lin_world: thank you so much
[07:16] <johnny12> trappist: thanks so much
[07:16] <linuxnewbie> i was trying to run the ubuntu live cd but it failed because it failed to start x server. what does it mean?
[07:16] <LinuxJones> linuxnewbie: a driver enables Linux to use your video card are you installing right now ?
[07:16] <Josh1> iBalo: Where does it show up, i type it into terminal but no other line comes up. Ive only been using linux for a week, lol.
[07:16] <linuxnewbie> i wanted to test the live cd
[07:16] <hackel_> Has anyone here managed to get TV-out working on an ATI Radeon (specifically XPRESS 200M)?  Even with the propietary driver I just can't get it to do anything...
[07:17] <kos__> St_Iron, according to the wiki you cant just apt-get it
[07:17] <LinuxJones> linuxnewbie: do you know what kind of video card you have ?
[07:17] <iBalo> yes, terminal is right... fdisk -l does not give a drive listing in the text conole ??
[07:17] <Josh1> iBalo: No..
[07:17] <iBalo> ??
[07:17] <linuxnewbie> i think its integrated to my laptop motherboard
[07:17] <Josh1> iBalo: I type it in, goes to next line with no other text.
[07:18] <iBalo> Josh1: fdisk -l (like list)
[07:18] <LinuxJones> linuxnewbie: were you asked to select your monitors resolution ?
[07:18] <linuxnewbie> yes i was
[07:18] <Josh1> iBalo: No list.
[07:18] <LinuxJones> linuxnewbie: what resolution did you select ?
[07:19] <iBalo> Josh1: Ohh.yes it's sudo fdsik -l
[07:19] <linuxnewbie> 1024x780 or smth
[07:19] <iBalo> Josh1: Ohh.yes it's sudo fdisk -l
[07:19] <Josh1> iBalo: Ok 1 moment
[07:19] <LinuxJones> linuxnewbie: it might have been 1200 x 768 or whatever try again and make sure the highest resolution is 1024x768
[07:20] <Draconicus> Quick! What's the process listing for X.org 7?
[07:20] <curley_sue> iBalo, I desperate - my mounted dev (NTFS & FAT32) still won't show under Places menu (unlike b4). If I enter a cd (for example) it auto mounts and appear in that menu. if I run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' the partitions show up but then no auto mounting for CDs or USB flash-disks
[07:20] <Josh1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9196
[07:21] <iBalo> curley_sue: Are you using dapper ? :-\
[07:21] <curley_sue> iBalo, no Breezy. should I?
[07:21] <iBalo> curley_sue: no
[07:21] <Josh1> iBalo: I used it as sharedlinux in home and it used a bit of space (10 gigs, i backedup another pc on network), so this will need a format.
[07:21] <bliss> more more ssh 4096.net
[07:21] <southern> what is the line sources.list in ...breezy-security universe?
[07:22] <wastrel> Draconicus:  X
[07:22] <Draconicus> wastrel: I tried that... It didn't work.
[07:22] <southern> what is the different restricted and universe?
[07:22] <Draconicus> wastrel: I need to kill it. Are you sure it's just "X" ?
[07:22] <wastrel> tried what?
[07:22] <Draconicus> I need to kill the process. xorg 7 has locked up on me due to a nautilus bug.
[07:23] <wastrel> why do you need to kill X?
[07:23] <bliss> try udp and tcp go for it ssh 4096.net
[07:23] <iBalo> Josh1: first thing is you should plug the two hardrives on _different_ IDE ports (they'll be hda and hdc then)..
[07:24] <peratu> Hi.
[07:24] <taburete> hi how can I avoid vesafb module load at startup?
[07:24] <johnny12> i have problem setting up my wireless card on ubuntu, what command do i run for it to look for it and mount so that it works
[07:24] <Josh1> iBalo: Ok, let me find my old ide cable
[07:24] <wastrel> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  mebby  or use ps aux , find the pid and kill that
[07:24] <iBalo> Josh1: but wait...
[07:25] <Josh1> iBalo: ?
[07:25] <iBalo> Josh1: windows won't boot if not on hda...
[07:25] <Josh1> iBalo: Eh? Im not dualbooting.
[07:25] <tallmf> I don't have permission to access a HD..how do I do this?!
[07:25] <trappist> iBalo: that's only true of win9x
[07:25] <Draconicus> wastrel: Like I said, a nautilus bug in Dapper has locked it up. I tried to go to preferences, and everything bogged down, then stopped completely. There is virtually no resource use, so it's not doing anything. Panel applets and such still move, but I can't click anything and the cursor vanishes over some areas.
[07:26] <iBalo> Josh1: what's hda1 then?
[07:26] <peratu> I have kubuntu-ppc on my iBook, but the sound don't work. I tryed audio-cd (cdda), mp3 with amarok-xine, amarok-arts, mpg321, mpg123, xmms, juk... Nut no work :( . Anyone can help me?
[07:26] <Josh1> iBalo: ? Lol. Im kind of tired at the moment.
[07:26] <peratu> s/Nut/But/
[07:27] <Draconicus> wastrel: I already killed GDM. Apparently it's somehow separate from X, now.
[07:27] <amphi> peratu: is the right module loaded, and are the channels unmuted?
[07:27] <wastrel> Draconicus:  and ctrl-alt-backspace won't kill it?
[07:27] <johnny12> can some1 help me with my ethernet and wireless card issues
[07:27] <iBalo> Josh1: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html maybe this read could help you
[07:27] <Draconicus> wastrel: I tried that command when I first upgraded. It seems to be disabled be default.
[07:27] <wastrel> Draconicus:  ps aux, find the pid and kill it...  use the -9 switch if necessary
[07:27] <tallmf> I don't have permission to access a HD..how do I do this?!
[07:27] <johnny12> i have problem setting up my wireless card on ubuntu, what command do i run for it to look for it and mount so that it works
[07:27] <peratu> amd77 , yes, both.
[07:28] <peratu> Oops. amphi , yes. Channels unmuted and modules loaded.
[07:28] <amphi> peratu: have a look at linux-laptop.net
[07:28] <Draconicus> wastrel: How do I scroll up the buffer in a console?
[07:28] <peratu> Ok.
[07:28] <curley_sue> iBalo, any ideas?
[07:28] <wastrel> Draconicus:  shift-pgup
[07:28] <amphi> johnny12: what wifi card?
[07:29] <wastrel> Draconicus:  but the buffer is cleared when you switch VT's,  use grep or less to manage the output
[07:29] <johnny12> amphi: one sec
[07:29] <southern> where can I download mc?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> !info mc
[07:29] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[07:29] <zaphy> I'm using gnome and suddenly when I start up amarok it starts amarok (nothing spectacular), which quits and start thunderbird. How could this be?
[07:29] <amphi> johnny12: you don't know? ;)
[07:30] <iBalo> curley_sue: not at the moment try !mountwindows and searching the wiki... i'm sure you're not the only one having this kind of trouble
[07:30] <johnny12> amphi: its a linksys wireless-g 2.4 GHz
[07:31] <johnny12> amphi: lol
[07:31] <amphi> johnny12: dunno anything about that
[07:31] <amphi> johnny12: have a look at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/
[07:32] <johnny12> amphi: ok thanks anyway, but isn't there a command to look for the card
[07:32] <curley_sue> iBalo I afraid I've been doing so all day long (the partitions are mounted only they show only under /media ...)
[07:32] <Draconicus> Where should I file a bug report for Dapper?
[07:32] <amphi> johnny12: lspci will show you the card. sudo iwconfig will give more info, if a driver is loaded
[07:32] <johnny12> amphi: ok i will
[07:32] <kos__> so after a dirty firefox/skype/etc install how does upgrading work?
[07:32] <iBalo> curley_sue: paste your fstab
[07:32] <kos__> i dont like the idea of installing packages outside of apt-get
[07:33] <johnny12> amphi: yeah i did the iwconfig and it wasn't reading it
[07:33] <johnny12> amphi: but ill do the first one
[07:33] <Angel_Dex> anyone here use xfce4?
[07:33] <yabo_> hi all, does anyone knows how can i open a port for incoming connections?
[07:34] <iBalo> kos__: have a look at checkinstall. Bypassing apt is not a good idea, you're right
[07:34] <kbrooks> iBalo, um.
[07:35] <amphi> johnny12: that suggests no module is loaded for it - is that card supported by linux at all?
[07:35] <kbrooks> iBalo, there are way too many packages that are not in the ubuntu repos that can be compiled
[07:35] <kbrooks> it's easy to compile.
[07:35] <MetaMorfoziS> !thunderbird
[07:35] <ubotu> thunderbird is, like, totally, a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[07:36] <MisterN> hi
[07:36] <iBalo> kbrooks: checkinstall is at least better  than ./configure && make && make install
[07:36] <Angel_Dex> im using xfce4 right now and if i open firefox from the toolbar it opens with http://www.arizona.edu/ as the homepage nomatter what i do why is this?
[07:36] <kbrooks> iBalo, checkinstall is  not compilation specific
[07:36] <zaphy> ubotu: are you referring to my question?
[07:36] <ubotu> zaphy: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:36] <johnny12> amphi: not sure where will i go to find that out
[07:36] <amphi> johnny12: the url I have you perhaps
[07:36] <curley_sue> iBalo http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9200 (thank you very much for your pataince!!!)
[07:37] <kbrooks> iBalo, you can make a package from commands that copy files. like, checkinstall ./foo.sh
[07:37] <zaphy> ubotu: will german do?
[07:37] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zaphy
[07:37] <kbrooks> zaphy, ubotu is a BOT
[07:37] <nm> hahah
[07:37] <kbrooks> not a human
[07:37] <thegladiator> !botsnack
[07:37] <ubotu> thanks thegladiator :)
[07:38] <zaphy> kbrooks: arr - it happens again and again.
[07:38] <zaphy> kbrooks: talked to corundum first until someonestopped me :(
[07:38] <Angel_Dex> I added it to be blocked on my hosts list and it still apears TT_TT
[07:38] <Draconicus> Okay, I've come to the conclusion that Dapper is NOT ready for Laptops, despite its various advantages on them.
[07:38] <thegladiator> what ?  mistaking a bot for a human being ?
[07:39] <kbrooks> Draconicus, um.
[07:39] <zaphy> thegladiator: he was the only one answering my question - and I can't program when no music is playing
[07:39] <kbrooks> Draconicus, its good for desktops.
[07:39] <kbrooks> zaphy, no ubotu  wasnt
[07:39] <Draconicus> kbrooks: That's nice. I hope to god that they fix these problems soon. I need my laptop to work before vacation ends.
[07:39] <kbrooks> bots act on command...
[07:39] <thegladiator> is dapper better than breezy ?
[07:39] <zaphy> kbrooks: well, he replied
[07:39] <kbrooks> thegladiator, depends
[07:40] <St_Iron> when i add an alias why lost it the machine at the next boot?
[07:40] <kbrooks> thegladiator, i cant compare
[07:40] <MisterN> thegladiator: for me, hell yes
[07:40] <thegladiator> so far people who have used it , is it an improvement over breezy
[07:40] <Draconicus> thegladiator: Dapper isn't really ready yet. It's close, though. You can give it a shot, but you might have problems.
[07:40] <kbrooks> thegladiator, i havent tried dapper yet.
[07:40] <holotone> What's the deal with not being able to copy files off of a DVD that has any sort of special character set?
[07:40] <kbrooks> St_Iron, you didnt add the alias
[07:40] <amphi> zaphy: have _you_ passed the Turing test? ;)
[07:40] <kbrooks> you typed "alias x='foo'"
[07:40] <St_Iron> yes kbrooks
[07:40] <holotone> I keep getting errors whenever there's anything but A-Z, 0-9
[07:40] <thegladiator> i am not actually talkin about the exteded hardware support dappr offers...
[07:40] <Draconicus> Somebody PLEASE tell me where to file Dapper bug reports. Please? Pleeeaaase? I have candy!
[07:40] <kbrooks> St_Iron, but you didnt put that in .bashrc
[07:41] <iBalo> curley_sue: try this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9201
[07:41] <kbrooks> Draconicus, launchpad. you have to register though.
[07:41] <thegladiator> but in terms of the feauters , since all most all the latest programs seems to be there in the repo
[07:41] <kbrooks> thegladiator, um.
[07:41] <thegladiator> for eg . dapper can do nothing mroe than use the latest nautilus , hwich we are using at breezt
[07:41] <Draconicus> kbrooks: I was looking for an address. :P
[07:41] <thegladiator> hence the question
[07:41] <zaphy> amphi: ;) Well, still don't know how I triggered the bots answer
[07:41] <kbrooks> Draconicus, i said you have to register. here you go. launchpad.net
[07:42] <kbrooks> zaphy, you typed: "ubotu, COMMAND"
[07:42] <kbrooks> like this
[07:42] <St_Iron> how can i put it in the .bashrc ?
[07:42] <thegladiator> what is the imrpovement with dapper in terms of features ?
[07:42] <holotone> how can I fix being able to import files with special characters in their filename off of a DVD?
[07:42] <kbrooks> ubotu, COMMAND
[07:42] <ubotu> kbrooks: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:42] <thegladiator> can anyone explain this ?
[07:42] <kbrooks> zaphy, ^
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  updated packages for the most part. from what ive seen.
[07:42] <zaphy> kbrooks: where?
[07:42] <MetaMorfoziS> my thunderbird start & crash with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9202
[07:42] <kbrooks> zaphy, that was a symbolic example
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> any idea?
[07:43] <thegladiator> dont we have updated packages in the repo  ? like say is gnome updated ?
[07:43] <thegladiator> or nautilus , stuffs like that ?
[07:43] <kbrooks> thegladiator, not in breezy
[07:43] <kbrooks> breezy is frozen
[07:43] <thegladiator> dont we have all thosee updated stuffs in the repo ?
[07:43] <zaphy> kbrooks: I see. Someone should flag bots so noone unintentionally speaks to them
[07:43] <thegladiator> oh breezy is fronzen ?
[07:43] <thegladiator> never knew that !
[07:43] <kbrooks> only securiy updates go in
[07:43] <thegladiator> I see
[07:43] <amphi> zaphy: and lose this entertainment? ;)
[07:43] <Draconicus> This is by far the most frustrating distro I've even encountered, and I don't even understand why that is.
[07:43] <kbrooks> to breezy repo.
[07:44] <St_Iron> kbrooks:  how can i put it in the .bashrc?
[07:44] <Draconicus> Still, I love it.
[07:44] <thegladiator> thats news to me i thought most of th softwares were updated in breezy
[07:44] <holotone> how can I fix being able to import files with special characters in their filename off of a DVD?
[07:44] <thegladiator> repo as well
[07:44] <kbrooks> no new features or new applications
[07:44] <zaphy> amphi: No entertainment here, am looking for a hint to solve my problem
[07:44] <kbrooks> thegladiator, not everything. ONLY SECURITY UPDATES GO IN
[07:44] <amphi> zaphy: which is what?
[07:45] <zaphy> amphi: when started amarok it disappereas and thunderbird gets started
[07:45] <linuxnewbie> hello. im back and still didnt get ubuntu live cd working
[07:45] <Webx> whats the difference between Ext2 and the new one ext3?
[07:45] <Draconicus> Why can't we just have nice, functional things? Why can't things like Firefox 1.5 just work like they're supposed to instead of lagging to resource-munching hell? Why?!
[07:45] <linuxnewbie> GDK_IS_SISPLAY failed as it told me
[07:45] <kbrooks> Draconicus, You don't understand dapper.
[07:45] <thegladiator> all those who have used dapper , how is the bugs ? is it kind of 80-90 % usable ?
[07:45] <fraggsta> I just installed Dapper.  I'm getting fairly jerky movement when I drag nautilus (or any other windows) around.  I'm using an Nvidia card, and the nvidia driver.  Anyone have any ideas what's wrong?
[07:45] <thegladiator> I guess thats all I will need
[07:45] <amphi> zaphy: that happens if you run amarok from a term?
[07:45] <Chousuke> Draconicus: because FF1.5 is buggy.
[07:45] <Draconicus> kbrooks, I'm talking about Breezy. -_-
[07:46] <Chousuke> FF1.5 is not a part of breezy :P
[07:46] <kbrooks> Draconicus, ???
[07:46] <zaphy> amphi: both (in term it states something I shouldn't run it from gdb, which I didn't
[07:46] <kbrooks> Draconicus, Breezy is frozen.
[07:46] <Chousuke> if you install 1.5 on breezy it has the right to break :D
[07:46] <linuxnewbie> so how do i know which driver for the x server to choose when booting?
[07:46] <thegladiator> i would love to switch to dapper , mine is more or less a simple amd sempron ssystem with inbuild cards
[07:46] <Josh1> stupid internet.. >_>
[07:46] <dip> I have an access point(192.168.1.80) setup to a switch on a network without dhcp. the laptop connects to the AP and I specify the laptops ip as 192.168.2.90 gateway 192.168.1.80 and specify the dns. I am still not able to go on any websites, anyone know whats wrong?
[07:46] <thegladiator> would I have trouble in dapper ?
[07:46] <kbrooks> No (new versions of) applications go in, Draconicus
[07:46] <curley_sue> iBalo, ok. do I have to restart all (or just gdm)?
[07:46] <amphi> zaphy: shouldn't run it under gdb?? wtf?
[07:46] <kbrooks> Draconicus, Only security updates go in.
[07:47] <thegladiator> can someone advice me ?  is going for dapper worth it ?
[07:47] <Draconicus> kbrooks: In Breezy, Firefox 1.5 likes to eat all the memory. ALL OF IT. It lags to hell, back, and then to hell again. It's driving me insane! There is a Firefox 1.5 installation possible on Breezy, and I've done it.
[07:47] <thegladiator> i am  a home usr
[07:47] <Josh1> iBalo: Would a fresh install of breezy do anything :P?
[07:47] <Josh1> iBalo: It would be much easier lol.
[07:47] <Draconicus> thegladiator: I'd say "no" at this point. You're taking a risk by using it. It's not that hard to understand. Breezy = STABLE. Dapper = TESTING. Okay?
[07:47] <zaphy> amphi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9204
[07:47] <iBalo> curley_sue: to see if aoutomounting works again I'd try a reboot
[07:48] <kbrooks> Draconicus, dont be that pessimitic
[07:48] <zaphy> amphi: after that thunderbird gets started
[07:48] <thegladiator> fine Draconicus , but what are the issues that one would afce really ?
[07:48] <curley_sue> iBalo ok...
[07:48] <iBalo> Josh1: the prob is, that your HD-layout is abit bit messy :-)
[07:48] <holotone> how can I fix being able to import files with special characters in their filename off of a DVD?
[07:48] <thegladiator> someone said dapper close to its stable form
[07:49] <iBalo> You'd gain a lot of speed by imaging your drives and applying a well thought out layout
[07:49] <Josh1> iBalo: Yes i know. Ubuntu isnt on the correct thing lol. My main harddrive was booting into windows (HD 0), and the ubuntu (HD 1). I edited the bios lol.
[07:49] <fraggsta> oh right, the ever reliable "someone"
[07:49] <holotone> whenever a character, which displayed fine in Windows, is out side of the A-Z, 0-9 format, it displays as a square in Konquerer, and it won't allow me to import it off the DVD
[07:49] <holotone> Can someone PLEASE help me with this?
[07:49] <thegladiator> is dapper fast ? and is the gnome version newer than what we have in breezy ?
[07:49] <St_Iron> of course...
[07:49] <thegladiator> can someone send me a snapshot of dapper under use ?
[07:49] <amphi> zaphy: it's dying horribly - perhaps it starts tbird for you to mail a bug report? ;)
[07:49] <thegladiator> St_Iron, ofcourse ?
[07:49] <Draconicus> thegladiator: Different things happen with different hardware. The only way to really find out is to download a Live CD and try it out, first. TEST EVERYTHING! Make sure you test everything you could possibly think of before you try the real thing!
[07:50] <fraggsta> I'll tell you what isn't fast in dapper.  WHEN I TRY TO DRAG WINDOWS AROUND :@
[07:50] <St_Iron> i read that on the ubuntu site
[07:50] <St_Iron> thegladiator: google...
[07:50] <thegladiator> Tep Draconicus
[07:50] <jjjjjjj> this new xchat does not have  a leave channel option anymore  (2.6.0)
[07:50] <St_Iron> "ubuntu dapper"
[07:50] <iBalo> Josh1: but shifting around partitons needs knowledge of how to get them to boot again, when relocated
[07:50] <amphi> zaphy: I don't use tbird or amarok myself
[07:50] <zaphy> amphi: default mail program is evolution (but actually I'm using thunderbird most times)
[07:50] <thegladiator> how can I download the live flight 4 cd ?
[07:50] <St_Iron> ubuntu.com
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> !dapper
[07:50] <holotone> whenever a character, which displayed fine in Windows, is out side of the A-Z, 0-9 format, it displays as a square in Konquerer, and it won't allow me to import it off the DVD
[07:50] <zaphy> amphi: well, thanks. Will try to switch on verbose mode or something
[07:50] <holotone> how do I fix this?
[07:50] <_jason> !+dapper
[07:50] <thegladiator> !dapper
[07:50] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it, or use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[07:51] <Draconicus> jjjjjjj: There's a little X on the bottom right. That closes the tab. You can also just type /part.
[07:51] <amphi> zaphy: I don't use kde at all, so I don't have much idea what kio is
[07:51] <_jason> holotone: be sure to try #kubuntu, more people there know about konqueror probably
[07:51] <jjjjjjj> ah... /part
[07:51] <GTX> How do I lock an account on my ubuntu server so it only works with an certain ip address?
[07:51] <thegladiator> dapper users , do you feel it is better than brezy ?
[07:51] <jjjjjjj> i was doing leave
[07:51] <holotone> Awesome, thank you _jason!
[07:51] <thegladiator> i have no problems with breezy actualy
[07:51] <amphi> zaphy: what happens if you run amarokapp ?
[07:51] <Draconicus> jjjjjjj: It helps to know standard IRC commands. :)
[07:52] <Draconicus> Damn. Missed him by a split second. :P
[07:52] <linuxnewbie> so how can i get along with the x sever?
[07:52] <linuxnewbie> what does it want from me?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> lol
[07:52] <zaphy> amphi: it is not in path
[07:52] <thegladiator> sorry but I could not find a link to download ISO of the dapper live cd
[07:52] <thegladiator> flight 4 i.
[07:52] <thegladiator> i.e
[07:52] <amphi> zaphy: dunno - locate amarokapp?
[07:52] <Draconicus> No "thank you" or "goodbye" or anything. I hate people like that.
[07:53] <amphi> zaphy: has amarok ever worked for you?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Flight 4 is out: http://tinyurl.com/s3vq8
[07:53] <fraggsta> dapper WOULD be nice if dragging windows around the desktop wasn't incredly jerky
[07:53] <Draconicus> jjjjjjj: Did you try it out in this channel? :P
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> fraggsta,  hmm dident notice that.
[07:53] <wastrel> leave is a standard irc command
[07:53] <fraggsta> which I can't understand given that I'm using the nvidia driver, and have RenderAccel enabled
[07:53] <zaphy> amphi: it did the last time i switched on this pc (1 week ago). You were right - it dies
[07:53] <thegladiator> live cd Dr_Willis ?
[07:53] <Draconicus> wastrel: It is? I've never heard of it...
[07:53] <vinidomine> I'm having trouble with audio on my thinkpad IBM 600e.... anyone could please help?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> thegladiator,  no clue.. ive seen links to the live cd..  go search ubuntu homepage i guess.
[07:53] <amphi> zaphy: without spawing tbird?
[07:54] <amphi> *spawning
[07:54] <wastrel> Draconicus:  /leave #channelname   always worked for me
[07:54] <thegladiator> yep
[07:54] <thegladiator> can someone one send a screenshot of dapper ?
[07:54] <fraggsta> Also, both the live CD and the installer completely misconfigured X for me, deciding that I had a random graphics chipset that I don't have.
[07:54] <Draconicus> wastrel: Interesting... Even in other clients?
[07:54] <zaphy> amphi: amarokapp did die with 'previous frame inside current frame'
[07:54] <wastrel> yep
[07:54] <zaphy> amphi: no tbird
[07:54] <thegladiator> with basic stuff like nautilus open ?
[07:54] <Draconicus> Lalalala... My dapper installation has gone to hell... Yippee. -_-
[07:54] <jjjjjjj> anyone know gaim?
[07:54] <thegladiator> jjjjjjj, no
[07:54] <amphi> !anyone
[07:54] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[07:54] <zaphy> amphi: sorry - there _is_ a tbird
[07:54] <_jason> jjjjjjj: just ask
[07:54] <amphi> zaphy: heh
[07:54] <Draconicus> jjjjjjj: Wow. Just... wow...          Why don't you ask #gaim for help, this time?
[07:55] <jjjjjjj> the faq didn't help me.... i accidently blocked someone and what the faq said to do dont work.. he still has a red x on the buddy list.
[07:55] <zaphy> amphi: thanks - will ask in #amarok
[07:55] <Draconicus> jjjjjjj: #gaim is your friend.
[07:55] <jjjjjjj> thx
[07:56] <amphi> jjjjjjj: the next version will implement the Remote Strangulation Protocol, and actually kill him
[07:56] <jjjjjjj> (y)
[07:56] <vinidomine> aka R S P
[07:56] <pinklerose> anyone can help me about printers and ubuntu?
[07:56] <Draconicus> amphi: Oooh.. I like the sound of THAT feature! :P
[07:56] <amphi> Draconicus: many are waiting for an implementation
[07:56] <linuxnewbie> so is there a special ubuntu live cd place as well where i could shine with my stupidity?
[07:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell pinklerose about print
[07:57] <amphi> linuxnewbie: here probably
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> linuxnewbie,  huh?
[07:57] <_jason> linuxnewbie: here will do just fine :)
[07:57] <linuxnewbie> i cant get the live cd working
[07:57] <linuxnewbie> last thing it said to me: gdk is display failed
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu wiki/forums are good place to start.
[07:58] <linuxnewbie> all i saw was a blinking display of darkness
[07:58] <kyle_> urrr
[07:58] <pinklerose> ubotu is a bot?
[07:58] <ubotu> pinklerose: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <kyle_> wow
[07:58] <kyle_> linux sucks
[07:58] <St_Iron> yes pinklerose
[07:59] <wastrel> yay
[07:59] <kyle_> why did i install this
[07:59] <kyle_> windows xp is better
[07:59] <Seth> uh huh
[07:59] <wastrel> kyle_:  i'm making macaroni & cheese for lunch
[07:59] <kyle_> kool
[07:59] <pinklerose> he gave me www adress who i known but idont found there info what i must to know
[07:59] <kyle_> how do i get to play my dvds on this mess of a op
[08:00] <wastrel> !dvd
[08:00] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[08:00] <linuxnewbie> so how do i know which option to choose when the live cd asks me about video card driver for the x server?
[08:00] <kyle_> thanx dude
[08:01] <kbrooks> kyle_,
[08:01] <kbrooks> lets see.
[08:01] <pinklerose> i want to buy a new printer but i dont know wich one?
[08:01] <kbrooks> so xp is better because it does not bundle a decent text editor?
[08:01] <kos__> is there a way to make a local ubuntu repository?
[08:01] <_jason> pinklerose: check linuxprinting.org, they have reviews.  hp is usually pretty good
[08:02] <kyle_> man, this is all new to me
[08:02] <kyle_> linux
[08:02] <kyle_> it's a fucking mess
[08:02] <kbrooks> so xp is better because it does not bundle a decent painting program, as opposed to MS Paint?
[08:02] <kyle_> and hard to use
[08:02] <HappyFool> heh
[08:02] <pinklerose> ok, tell me what is *.ppd files?
[08:02] <vinidomine> Linux is not for point and click-next-next-finish generation. If you want a OS that does it all behind your back... pay Bill Gates
[08:02] <anto9us> pinklerose, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters
[08:02] <Draconicus> kyle_: Get used to it. Once you do, you'll never want to go back.
[08:02] <HappyFool> kos__: take a look and dpkg-scanpackages, for starters
[08:02] <_jason> kyle_: nah it's great.  Anything that is brand new to you is going to seem difficult
[08:02] <thegladiator> what is the gnome version in breezy ?
[08:02] <kbrooks> kyle_, do you think that xp bundles a DECENT text editor?
[08:03] <zebraFusion> does apt-cache search search the repos or your current installed packages?
[08:03] <kyle_> it's just all the plugins i have to install
[08:03] <kyle_> it's a pain
[08:03] <kyle_> i know xp sucks that's why i installed this
[08:03] <vinidomine> kyle_,  seems to deserve windows 3.11
[08:03] <HappyFool> zebraFusion: it searchs the package lists which are downloaded by 'apt-get update'
[08:03] <Draconicus> Oh... You mean the w32codecs thing... It's not that hard. Legal issues, you know.
[08:03] <kbrooks> kyle_, but its a pain to install macromedia flash!
[08:03] <iBalo> zebraFusion: dpkg -l lists all installed packages
[08:04] <kbrooks> kyle_, under windows, anyway.
[08:04] <kyle_> i just don't get any of it yet
[08:04] <kyle_> or where to go
[08:04] <_jason> kyle_: of course, it's your first day.  Browse through help.ubuntu.com.  Other good places are wiki.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org
[08:04] <kbrooks> kyle_, its a pain to install a decent text editor, under windows.
[08:04] <kyle_> i think my monitors in 60Hz cos my eyes are fucking up
[08:04] <kyle_> lol
[08:04] <vinidomine> Idont understand how people can COMPLAIN of FREE license software... its free for godsakes
[08:04] <fraggsta> google can't help me, can ANYONE guess why window movement might be incredibly jerky in dapper?  I'm guessing it could be silkenmouse, but I can't find any way to disable it in xorg.conf
[08:04] <Seth> kyle_: I doubt people are going to want to help someone that constantly whines and bitches
[08:04] <thegladiator> what is the gnome version in breezy ?
[08:04] <kbrooks> kyle_, i'm serious
[08:05] <kbrooks> kyle_, if you want to talk more about winxp, please pm me...
[08:05] <kyle_> how do i change the monitor hz
[08:05] <kyle_> k
[08:05] <Seth> kbrooks:  they have vi for windows?
[08:05] <kyle_> how?
[08:05] <kbrooks> kyle_, um, see the system window
[08:05] <kbrooks> Seth, here i go: *rebuttal*
[08:05] <iBalo> kyle_: read http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and rant in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:05] <wastrel> Seth:  vim has a 'doze version
[08:05] <HappyFool> thegladiator: looks like 2.12
[08:06] <anto9us> kyle_, this is not a complaint, just a suggestion, you'll receive a lot more help and a plethora of useful tips with just a minor attitude adjustment, no-one here owes you anything
[08:06] <Seth> I know vi runs on windows it was a joke.
[08:06] <thegladiator> thanks HappyFool
[08:06] <kbrooks> Seth, VI IS NOT a decent text editor, esp.  not for people using windows.
[08:06] <pinklerose> thanx for help. i read something and back again
[08:06] <pinklerose> c u all
[08:06] <vinidomine> that explains it all... guy cant even pm... so he is used to not think... typical windows lover... what a tool
[08:06] <kbrooks> vinidomine, wtf?
[08:06] <kbrooks> vinidomine, 1.
[08:06] <vinidomine> lol
[08:06] <kbrooks> he cant pm b/c he doesnt know how to
[08:06] <vinidomine> kbrooks, forgive me
[08:06] <kbrooks> 2. he can think
[08:07] <_jason> and he isn't registered
[08:07] <kbrooks> 3. typical windows lover? hmm...
[08:07] <kbrooks> 4. a tool? he is a tool? hmmm, no way
[08:07] <kyle_> is there like a msn chat
[08:07] <kbrooks> kyle_, No.
[08:07] <vinidomine> kbrooks,  ... your point of view... my point of view. But I'm cool with you.
[08:08] <geneo93> msn is in gaim
[08:08] <russellc> is there any way to switch default file managers from nautilus to something else?  (in this case, thunar)
[08:08] <kbrooks> geneo93, Different. I think.
[08:08] <kbrooks> kyle_, do you know what "proprietary" means?
[08:08] <kyle_> how do i get my games to run on this linux
[08:08] <geneo93> my daughter uses it to chat with her friends on msn
[08:08] <kyle_> no
[08:08] <Seth> kyle_ cedega
[08:08] <kyle_> lol, why?
[08:09] <fraggsta> oh noes
[08:09] <kbrooks> proprietor: "owner"
[08:09] <fraggsta> it's my wallpaper that's doing it :(
[08:09] <GTX> How do I lock an account on my ubuntu server so it only works with an certain ip address?
[08:09] <kbrooks> "Something proprietary is something exclusively owned by someone"
[08:09] <Seth> gtx what kind of account?
[08:09] <nickrud> kyle_, windows and linux use different software to run the machine, the games need to be built to use the different software. Cedega works around some of that
[08:09] <anto9us> GTX, ssh logins?
[08:10] <kyle_> kool
[08:10] <kyle_> i'll check it out
[08:10] <Ox0000> kyle_: but it doesn't work very well and it's not free
[08:10] <kbrooks> kyle_, therefore - MSN chat can't be used on linux directly (like, you can't go to chat.msn.com)
[08:10] <Guillermo> is there any program that makes sound enhancing, such as the tool found on itunes???
[08:11] <kbrooks> kyle_, well, you can, but when you get to the chat room you choose, it just doesnt work.
[08:11] <russellc> Guillermo: your mixer should have treble/bass sliders if thats what you're looking for
[08:11] <anto9us> Guillermo, audacity will let you do all kinds of cool things to sound files
[08:11] <kyle_> is there like a C++
[08:11] <zebraFusion> I have a serious problem that's REALLY starting to get to me: I'll be typing rnadomly (AIM, Xchat) abd all assuden X will die and it will either restart automatically or it just put me back the command prompt, how can I unbind these commands - they're not in key shortcuts)
[08:11] <kbrooks> kyle_, um.
[08:11] <kyle_> i like making emulators
[08:11] <vinidomine> kbrooks, you seem to be very helpfull. Do you know how to configure sound when the sound card shows on device manager?
[08:11] <Guillermo> anto9us: no, not editing the file, it's kind of real-time filter to make the sound better
[08:11] <kbrooks> kyle_, lets see if you are up to par on linux yet.
[08:12] <Seth> kyle_... um gcc?
[08:12] <kbrooks> vinidomine, No. Unfortunately... I'm deaf.
[08:12] <kbrooks> Seth, hey, don't bombard him with junk.
[08:12] <fraggsta> great, so having anything other than no nautilus background makes movement jerky.  Now what?
[08:12] <anto9us> Guillermo, that depends on what you're using to play the file then, xmms has lots of plugins I do believe
[08:12] <vinidomine> is that a true answer kbrooks ?
[08:12] <kyle_> ???
[08:12] <Ox0000> kyle_: open a terminal and type man g++
[08:12] <geneo93> kyle_: qt designer does c, c++
[08:12] <kbrooks> vinidomine, Honestly.
[08:12] <vinidomine> ok
[08:12] <kyle_> o
[08:12] <vinidomine> sorry to hear that
[08:13] <kbrooks> vinidomine, I'm serious. I have hearing aids (not in or even on, though)
[08:13] <kyle_> i want to make a N64 emulator for linux
[08:13] <nuxil> hello gents
[08:13] <zaphy> amphi: for the record, deleting ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok helped
[08:13] <jjjjjjj> oh that's just great... the dapper cd is 680mb and i only have a 650mb cdrw.
[08:13] <vinidomine> I thought for a min you were being sarcastic... sorry bro
[08:13] <Guillermo> serioulsy.. can someone help me with the sound filters? is there EAX avaiable?
[08:13] <kbrooks> vinidomine, oh, and ... (avoiding negativity) i'm physically limited to my wheelchair.
[08:13] <yabo_> i have a problem, when i try to bind a port, i have an error: "Bind: Cannot assign requested address"
[08:13] <russellc> Guillermo: no i believe not
[08:13] <yabo_> can anyone help me?
[08:13] <Draconicus> kbrooks: I'm already registered at Launchpad, but I'm not familiar with how to report bugs... I've only figured out how to view existing ones. How do I report one, if you don't mind telling me?
[08:14] <vinidomine> kbrooks, agreed
[08:14] <kbrooks> Draconicus, hang on a sec.
[08:14] <kyle_> urrr
[08:14] <kbrooks> kyle_, umm
[08:14] <Draconicus> kbrooks: I suppose "file a bug about a package" would do it. :P
[08:14] <kbrooks> lets go slow here, kyle_
[08:14] <Guillermo> thanks everyone, I'll continue searching
[08:15] <kbrooks> kyle_, what exactly do you want to do in ubuntu apart from writing a emulator?
[08:15] <kyle_> make tunes, like in a cubase like sequencer
[08:15] <kbrooks> kyle_, ?
[08:16] <kbrooks> kyle_, "make tunes"?
[08:16] <Draconicus> kyle_: For audio mixing and sequencing, try audacity.
[08:16] <zebraFusion> how can I install gtk1.0?
[08:16] <kyle_> yes
[08:16] <kbrooks> music?
[08:16] <tallmf> how do I give myself root privileges?
[08:16] <Draconicus> zebraFusion: You don't want to do that.
[08:16] <nuxil> i have a Q?.. i need to make a initscript.. well i have make one.. so heres my Q.. to be able to start the initscript at boot i need to do: ln /etc/ini.d/script /etc/rc3.d/S99script ?and must the link has the exacr name as the script in /etc/init.d ??
[08:16] <Seth> tallmf: sudo
[08:16] <anto9us> kyle_, there's one called rosegarden
[08:16] <kyle_> that's more of a wave editor
[08:16] <kyle_> does it support VST
[08:16] <zebraFusion> Draconicus, k... For nmap 4.01's frontend it requires GTK, but, I guess I don't need it afterall :P
[08:17] <kbrooks> zebraFusion, Why?
[08:17] <kbrooks> zebraFusion, GTK, GTK+
[08:17] <Draconicus> kyle_: audacity exports to any format you need, with the right codecs installed. I don't know if it supports VST. Rosegarden is primarily for midis, but will also mix audio much like Anvil Studio for Windows.
[08:17] <kbrooks> look carefully
[08:17] <nuxil> anyone?
[08:17] <kbrooks> GTK == GTK 1.0
[08:17] <kbrooks> GTK+ == GTK 2.0
[08:17] <kyle_> i'll check them out
[08:17] <tallmf> seth: sudo what?
[08:17] <Smelly_Kat> hey guys, quick Q - I've got my desktop on ubuntu and my laptop on SuSE and I wanna connect my laptop to the net via my desktop..
[08:18] <kbrooks> kyle_, do you know how to install packages?
[08:18] <nuxil> did i get things right with that init stuff?
[08:18] <Seth> tallmf: sudo <command>
[08:18] <fdr> hello... when I insert a blank dvd I am given the option to burn it from nautilus... can I also use nautilus to blank again a previously-written dvd+rw? thank you
[08:18] <Smelly_Kat> any ideas how to set up connection sharing
[08:18] <kyle_> no
[08:18] <Draconicus> kyle_: Please note that Rosegarden will require the KDE base to be installed, so it'll require a number of other packages. They're all automatically installed through Synaptic, though.
[08:18] <kbrooks> kyle_, NO?!?
[08:18] <mementor> is firefox broken in dapper?
[08:18] <iBalo> Smelly_Kat: you have to tell the lappie to use the LAN-IP of your desktop as a gateway
[08:19] <kyle_> what is KDE
[08:19] <Smelly_Kat> ah ok, thanks iBalo
[08:19] <Draconicus> kyle_: Go to the Applications menu, then System > Administration > Synaptics Package Manager.
[08:19] <kbrooks> kyle_, Well, now's the time to take you through the wiki. See AddingRepositoriesHowto: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:19] <nuxil> hmm
[08:19] <tallmf> seth: Im trying to copy a file into the "lib" file and it won;t let me..so what exactly should I do?
[08:19] <Stc> hello
[08:19] <anto9us> Smelly_Kat, firestarter will let you configure internet connection sharing
[08:19] <Draconicus> kyle_: KDE is an alternative Window Manager (GUI) for Linux. It's different from GNOME, which is the default. Don't worry about it. It's not important.
[08:19] <tallmf> I should mention tha tI just installed Linux for the first ime ever
[08:19] <Stc> gnomebacker error Error trying to open /dev/sg0 exclusively (Permission denied)... retrying in 1 second.
[08:19] <Smelly_Kat> I'm not a fan of firestarter anto9us
[08:20] <Smelly_Kat> I found the damn thing blocked *everytthing*
[08:20] <kbrooks> Smelly_Kat, um. so fix it.
[08:20] <curley_sue> iBalo, Ciao again... I'm sure u r not as disappointed as I am :-D  .... it didn't work. still neither NTFS nor the FAT32 appear in places menu...
[08:21] <iBalo> Hmm.i have this in my playground dapper install, too... wasN#t looking for a fix up to now
[08:22] <Chris_Tucker> are there any apps out there available in .deb format that will do text-to-speech for some things? like say what time it is?
[08:22] <nuxil> i have a Q?.. i need to make a initscript.. well i have make one.. so heres my Q.. to be able to start the initscript at boot i need to do: ln /etc/ini.d/script /etc/rc3.d/S99script ?and must the link has the exacr name as the script in /etc/init.d ??
[08:22] <Draconicus> kbrooks: Launchpad only has "Ubuntu" in its selection. How do I specify a Dapper bug?
[08:22] <kyle_> OpenGL, DirectX, um, what does linux use
[08:23] <JL0gik> what is the name of the c++ channel?
[08:23] <_jason> JL0gik: ##c++
[08:23] <nuxil> #c++
[08:23] <[cro] smiley> does gaim support voice chat?
[08:23] <drfoz> <[cro] smiley> nope
[08:23] <nuxil> for god sake dosent anyone know this init stuff
[08:23] <djp> kyle, if you use a 3d accelerated graphics card, opengl
[08:24] <kyle_> k
[08:24] <kbrooks> kyle_, directx is proprietary. linux can use opengl
[08:24] <Gargoyle> Hello
[08:24] <_jason> nuxil: I think you use update-rc.d to make the links
[08:24] <thegladiator> kyle_, did you read http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm , very interesting
[08:24] <kyle_> yes
[08:24] <[cro] smiley> is there a way to search users in gnomemeeting, or I have to know IP myself?
[08:25] <thegladiator> can someone show a screenshot of dapper ?
[08:25] <[cro] smiley> and is there an alternative voice chat program
[08:25] <_jason> !dapper
[08:25] <kyle_> i'm starting to get it a bit better
[08:25] <anto9us> Chris_Tucker, check out System | Preferences | Assistive Technologies
[08:25] <nuxil> _jason, i dont wanna use that
[08:25] <nuxil> _jason, i wanna do it manualy
[08:25] <drfoz> <[cro] smiley> skype works good
[08:25] <nuxil> i wanna learn how it works
[08:25] <Solilo> thegladiator: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=582&slide=3&title=ubuntu+linux+6.04+alpha+4+screenshots
[08:25] <Gargoyle> My PC has never worked so hard!
[08:26] <thegladiator> i am looking for a screenshot
[08:26] <[cro] smiley> thanx
[08:26] <thegladiator> thanks
[08:26] <Gargoyle> Installing on 3 virtual machines at the same time! :)
[08:26] <_jason> thegladiator: the wiki page on dapper has screenshots
[08:26] <nuxil> brbr ther isnt much help here.. ;(
[08:26] <thegladiator> thank you _jason
[08:26] <_jason> nuxil: you would read man update-rc.d to see how it works
[08:26] <nuxil> _jason but i sayd i wanna do it manualy
[08:27] <_jason> nuxil: right... but you are asking how things get named.  man update-rc.d explains it
[08:28] <Bergcube> I have a couple of questions regarding swap.  I've read some experts saying swap shoud be twice the size of RAM.  Whereas other expert says swap should be twice the size of RAM, but even so not exceeding 512 MegaByte.  I personally think the last makes most sence.  But would really like you gurus to show me the correct path.
[08:28] <Smelly_Kat> I've just reinstalled firestarter and its blocking soooo much stuff
[08:28] <Smelly_Kat> argh!
[08:29] <nuxil> _jason ok but what runlevel is the proper one? is 3 the right one?
[08:29] <curley_sue> iBalo,  any ideas?
[08:29] <_jason> nuxil: I think so
[08:29] <HappyFool> 2
[08:29] <HappyFool> err, that is, the default runlevel is 2
[08:29] <_jason> ah
[08:30] <Bergcube> My other question regarding swap is: Given a computer with two physical harddrives.  Should each harddrive have a swap-partition, or is one for the entire installation enough?  If one is enough, shoulkd it rather be on the same physical disc as / or on the other one?
[08:30] <nuxil> ahh that figuer why it wount start up
[08:30] <St_Iron> bye
[08:30] <amphi> Bergcube: depends - I have 1.5gb ram, and 2gb swap, but that's for swsusp
[08:31] <Zoroaster> after updating my kernel, now VMware does not run
[08:31] <zebraFusion> How do I install GTK++?
[08:31] <MisterN> zebraFusion: *guess* apt-get install libgtkmm-dev
[08:31] <zebraFusion> MisterN, is that all?
[08:32] <MisterN> zebraFusion: this is just a quick guess
[08:32] <zebraFusion> We'll see if you're right ;)
[08:32] <zebraFusion> How large are the HDs on the repos?
[08:32] <zebraFusion> To contain all these files...
[08:33] <Bergcube> amphi~  is swsusp software suspension of the computer, not unlike sleep or hibernate?
[08:33] <southern> !info cups
[08:33] <southern> !info cupsd
[08:33] <djp> nuxil, i use a script at boot. to get it working i copied the script to /etc/init.d, gave the script execute permissions and ran the command update-rc.d foo defaults
[08:33] <nickrud> !info cupsys
[08:33] <ubotu> cupsys: (Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server), section net, is optional. Version: 1.1.23-10ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 8752 kB, Installed size: 15956 kB
[08:34] <southern> th
[08:34] <curley_sue> iBalo, still here?
[08:34] <southern> x
[08:34] <Draconicus> kbrooks: Launchpad only has "Ubuntu" in its selection. How do I specify a Dapper bug?
[08:34] <iBalo> Does anyone know this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9210 The fonts are fsck'd up, but when i hover over them with the mouse they'llrestore to normal
[08:34] <kyle_> yo, is there anything i should be change in my computers BIOS or not
[08:34] <amphi> Bergcube: yeah, suspend to disk, aka hibernate
[08:35] <fdr> how do I blank a DVD+RW with my ubuntu? I tried with the command line cdrecord, it says that it lacks dvd+rw support...
[08:35] <iBalo> curley_sue: sorry, i thing that's a bug or misconf, i can't help you further :-(
[08:35] <thegladiator> Xgl etc willbe available in dapper ?
[08:35] <Bergcube> amphi~  Ok, good.  If we select NOT to care about that.  Will 512 work as an upper limit, or should one always go for more swap than RAM?
[08:36] <thegladiator> i hear it is stunning , even better than Vista's or MAC OS  looks
[08:36] <Chris_Tucker> are there any apps out there available in .deb format that will do text-to-speech for some things? like say what time it is?
[08:36] <strannik> hello..
[08:36] <thegladiator> novell xgl I mean
[08:36] <linuxnewbie> hello. im back and testing the live cd now
[08:36] <strannik> what is the best way to add an application to execute at startup for example gdesklets
[08:36] <strannik> ?????
[08:36] <southern> is there any usable cups printer setup tutorial
[08:36] <southern> ?
[08:36] <xdavidek> hi all
[08:36] <thegladiator> linuxnewbie, dapper or breezy ?
[08:37] <strannik> add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisk.sh?
[08:37] <nickrud> strannik, system-preferences-session, startup tab
[08:37] <linuxnewbie> 5.10 as far as i know
[08:37] <thegladiator> novells Xgl  will be available in dapper ?
[08:37] <anto9us> Chris_Tucker, yes, have you looked at enabling assistive technologies?
[08:37] <linuxnewbie> i think its breezy, isnt it_
[08:37] <Meuro> lo pplz.  i think i have spent nearly 9hrs trying to install ubuntu and it hasnt worked.  i was on here last nite and got some good suggestions but nothing worked.  i have checked the disks i downloaded with checksums, i did a memtest, i have turned off acpi and apci at when boot from install disk.  nothing seems to work.  it always freezes on the installing/ configuring bit right at the...
[08:37] <curley_sue> iBalo where can I post this (ubuntu bug report)?
[08:37] <kyle_> using this is so frustrating
[08:37] <Meuro> ...very end of the process.  typically 70 something %.  my hardware is: amd64 3400, foxconn mobo, 1024ram and samsung 80gb sata hdd.  any ideas?
[08:37] <nickrud> thegladiator, it's in the dapper repos
[08:37] <nickrud> !xgl
[08:37] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:37] <thegladiator> great , it requires graphics cards ?
[08:38] <linuxnewbie> my live cd couldnt start totem movie player. "the video output is in use by another application/..
[08:38] <k31th> Hello all
[08:38] <strannik> nickrud: thanks!
[08:38] <nickrud> thegladiator, it needs a reasonably fast machine and video card
[08:38] <nickrud> thegladiator, 3d card, that is
[08:38] <thegladiator> thanks
[08:38] <linuxnewbie> who is using my video output?
[08:38] <fraggsta> you are?
[08:38] <nickrud> me
[08:38] <linuxnewbie> so i cant test totem?
[08:39] <thegladiator> have you tried it nickrud ?
[08:39] <iBalo> curley_sue: read through the hal and dbus-docs first... and maybe do a 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop' first. Chances are it's not a bug, but somet screw'd up confih file
[08:39] <[cro] smiley> how to install skype?
[08:39] <nickrud> thegladiator, I tried it from cvs a while ago, but not recently
[08:39] <thegladiator> !skype
[08:39] <ubotu> hmm... skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:39] <xdavidek> i installed badger and then updated kernel. my integrated sound worked. then i updated gstreamer* and my sound card is working only at start up splash screen. can anybody tell me, what i need to do to make my sound card working again?
[08:39] <thegladiator> thanks
[08:39] <Bergcube> Forgive me for repeating myself....  My other question regarding swap is: Given a computer with two physical harddrives.  Should each harddrive have a swap-partition, or is one for the entire installation enough?  If one is enough, shoulkd it rather be on the same physical disc as / or on the other one?
[08:39] <nickrud> thegladiator, um, actually that wasn
[08:40] <thegladiator> [cro] smiley, see what ubotu has to say
[08:40] <nickrud> 't xgl, it was wobbly windows with some other stuff, i've forgotten exactly
[08:40] <iBalo> Bergcube: two swaps is better, rule of thumb 1.5 to 2.5 x Ram
[08:40] <thegladiator> I see , did you enjoy it ?
[08:41] <nickrud> thegladiator, I had a slow machine and slow opengl; it was pretty tho
[08:41] <thegladiator> i see
[08:41] <DougTheSlug> hey, i've got a question about apache config and modperl on ubuntu... anyone available here to help?
[08:41] <k31th> wahoo upgrades
[08:41] <thegladiator> http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/ for ppl who want to know abt xgl , its in dapper repo also
[08:42] <Bergcube> iBalo~  Thanks for your input.  But thse days 512, 1 gig or even more RAM is not uncommon.  So howcome some experts keep saying swap never needs to be bigger than 512 Megs?
[08:42] <DougTheSlug> well, I'll fire this out anyways, cause it's been stumping me
[08:42] <thegladiator> Bergcube, better be on the safe side is what I see, most ppl also have big hdd these days
[08:42] <thegladiator> so it would harm if you put aside a gig , but not sure if it is really necessary
[08:43] <thegladiator> not*
[08:43] <MurraySW> Hey guys!
[08:43] <iBalo> Coz that's the way it is :-) I have 512M Ram and 2x 384M swap, but hardly use more than 20M of the swap under any condition
[08:43] <linuxnewbie> when using live cd how can i see if music player is working. how can i find my music files on my harddrive?
[08:43] <nm> it's pointless to have more than 1gb of swap
[08:43] <MurraySW> Anyone know why I can't backup my Transporter 2 DVD?  Dvd::Rip's log file reads...
[08:43] <nm> in almost any OS
[08:43] <nm> including linux and all windows versions out to date
[08:43] <nickrud> metzen, I have 512M ram, a 512M swap, and use about 20-30% usually
[08:43] <Bergcube> thegladiator~  Ah, but here is the rub:  Do we know that the kernel is ABLE to utilise more than 512 Mbyte RAM?  Or is there a built-in limit / cut-off somewhere?
[08:43] <Solilo> Could someone explain what the 'PR' column in top represents?
[08:43] <nickrud> foiled by tab completion again
[08:44] <DougTheSlug> I had modperl working on a server up at school (myself and 3 other students are the admin).  over the weekend, with no config done the server, properly working scripts now do absolutely nothing.
[08:44] <fraggsta> Bergcube: Yes, no.
[08:44] <nickrud> Bergcube, I *know* 1G works
[08:44] <thegladiator> i am not considered to be an authority on swap sorry :)
[08:44] <MurraySW> Question: In the "commands" tab of DVDRip, all of the "player" features fail because it is looking for either Xine or Mplayer.  How do I change it to do the same thing, but with Totem?
[08:45] <xdavidek> i installed badger and then updated kernel. my integrated sound worked. then i updated gstreamer* and my sound card is working only at start up splash screen. can anybody tell me, what i need to do to make my sound card working again?
[08:45] <Bergcube> Good!  Then you people have answered both my questions on swap.  Thanks a lot!
[08:45] <pm> happy doughnut everybody!
[08:45] <poningru> Bergcube: the kernel can handle upto 2gigs iirc if 32bit
[08:45] <demetrios> Hi, can anyone tell me why after make a custom kernel that pro/wireless 2200BG does not exist
[08:45] <poningru> and more if compiled for 64bit
[08:45] <DougTheSlug> so apache now does some weird behaviour.  (1) if the script is destined to fail (ie: explicit die command within the script) the script will die and te error.log will be appended accordingly (2) if the script should run (ie: $perl script.pl works) then apache simply sends out the file script.pl, and the file comes out empty
[08:46] <[cro] smiley> need help with skype:  skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[08:46] <[cro] smiley>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[08:46] <Bergcube> poningru~  I see.
[08:46] <fraggsta> [cro] smiley: "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:47] <HappyFool> !skype
[08:47] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:47] <demetrios> ayone experience loss of pro/wireless 2200BG after custom kernel
[08:47] <curley_sue> iBalo, I belive u told me to uninstall hwdb (which is needed for ubuntu-desktop), here's what I get when I try to install ubuntu -desktop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9211
[08:48] <curley_sue> Is there anyone who can help with a configuration problem?
[08:48] <curley_sue> neither NTFS nor the FAT32 appear in places menu...
[08:49] <curley_sue> here's what I get when I try to install ubuntu -desktop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9211
[08:49] <MurraySW> Anyone know how to use dvd::rip?  Message me...I seem to have everthing configured, but when I hit "rip" nothing happens...
[08:52] <kyle_> this linux is going to take me a while to understand, lol
[08:52] <_jason> kyle_: that's the fun part
[08:52] <vellu> anyone succeeded to get Gstreamer0.10 to work?
[08:52] <kyle_> i'm liking it so far
[08:52] <curley_sue> MurrayS I use GnomeBaker (a gui software which burns CDs and DVDs well)
[08:53] <kyle_> there's a lot i can fuck around with
[08:53] <linuxnewbie> using live cd - how can i listen to my audio files that are on my hard drive?
[08:53] <kyle_> there is one thing though
[08:53] <_jason> linuxnewbie: ntfs?
[08:53] <linuxnewbie> yes
[08:53] <kyle_> why can't it read my dvds?
[08:54] <_jason> linuxnewbie: you have to mount it, do you know how?
[08:54] <linuxnewbie> no i dont
[08:54] <_jason> kyle_: did you install libdvdcss?
[08:54] <kyle_> how?
[08:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell linuxnewbie about ntfs
[08:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell kyle_ about dvd
[08:54] <nickrud> kyle_, try working your way through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, it'll get you set up for a variety of media
[08:54] <kyle_> nope, it loaded totem movie player
[08:55] <_jason> kyle_: did you get a private message?
[08:55] <kyle_> i don't think so
[08:55] <southern> I'm trying to add hp printer to cups
[08:55] <_jason> kyle_: check, it tells you how to install libdvdcss
[08:55] <southern> but it says authorization failed
[08:55] <southern> ???
[08:55] <southern> pls help
[08:56] <tallmf> how do I give myself root priveleges
[08:56] <tallmf> Sodu is not working
[08:56] <_jason> !root
[08:56] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:56] <tallmf> there has got to be an easier way
[08:56] <AskHL> Perhaps sudo works better
[08:56] <_jason> tallmf: what do you mean by ``not working''
[08:56] <Guardiann> :)
[08:56] <fraggsta> tallmf: "sudo passwd", if you REALLY want to be able to log in as root :)
[08:57] <curley_sue> Is there anyone who can help with a configuration problem?
[08:57] <southern> how can I enable root?
[08:57] <curley_sue> neither NTFS nor the FAT32 appear in places menu...
[08:57] <vellu> HEY! Anyone succeeded to get Gstreamer0.10 to work as the GS0.8 stinks!!!
[08:57] <southern> and after disable?
[08:57] <tallmf> well....maybe "too fucking hard to comprehend" is a better way to say that
[08:57] <alex_____> if I want make a copy of the original dvd which have protection how can I do it?\
[08:57] <wastrel> sudo su
[08:57] <tallmf> excuse the language but this is frustrating as hell
[08:57] <AskHL> southern, there's a guide somewhere on the ubuntuforums, but "sudo su" is basically equivalent
[08:57] <nickrud> southern, sudo -i is recommended
[08:58] <kyle_> i'm on that link but i don't know where to go to
[08:58] <_jason> tallmf: you want to run a command with suepruser privileges you just put sudo in front, like so: sudo nano, that's pretty easy.  If you want a root terminal, instead just do: sudo -s
[08:58] <mastastev> hallo
[08:58] <_jason> kyle_: what link?
[08:59] <kyle_> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:59] <alex_____> if I want make a copy of the original dvd which have protection how can I do it?
[08:59] <Taker> Does anyone want to play kwin4 over the internet?
[09:00] <mastastev> hy, kann mir wer helfen?
[09:00] <MisterN> !de
[09:00] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:00] <Taker> MisterN: schie los
[09:00] <_jason> kyle_: open a terminal, accessories > terminal
[09:00] <zebraFusion> I have a serious problem that's REALLY starting to get to me: I'll be typing rnadomly (AIM, Xchat) abd all assuden X will die and it will either restart automatically or it just put me back the command prompt, how can I unbind these commands - they're not in key shortcuts)
[09:01] <MisterN> Taker: ?
[09:01] <kyle_> k
[09:01] <Taker> MisterN: yes?
[09:01] <wastrel> zebraFusion:  ctrl-alt-backspace is the only thing i can think that would do that.
[09:01] <MisterN> Taker: <Taker> MisterN: schie los
[09:01] <thegladiator> is there a nautilus plugin for xmms ? something like right click enque
[09:01] <_jason> kyle_: now enter: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[09:01] <southern> CUPS
[09:01] <Taker> MisterN: Don`t you want to play kwin4 vs me?
[09:01] <southern> CUPS
[09:01] <southern> CUPS
[09:02] <zebraFusion> wastrel, I'm aware of that command but I'm absolutely sure it's not it
[09:02] <MisterN> Taker: i uninstalled kde-libs some time ago
[09:02] <zebraFusion> It's whne I'm doing casual typing...
[09:02] <southern> I can't authorize in cups!
[09:02] <southern> why????
[09:02] <zebraFusion> Maybe backspace with shift, or something.
[09:02] <nickrud> southern, are you trying to use the web interface at localhost:631?
[09:02] <kyle_> got it, thanx
[09:02] <Taker> MisterN: If there is a gnome-clone for this game?
[09:02] <nitrix> hi
[09:02] <_jason> kyle_: you know what to do now?
[09:02] <wastrel> zebraFusion:  your gnome keybindings are in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[09:03] <kyle_> yes
[09:03] <southern> yes
[09:03] <wastrel> zebraFusion:  dunno other wm's
[09:03] <kyle_> i think
[09:03] <thegladiator> is there a nautilus plugin for xmms ? something like right click enque stuffy? i'd like to have the enque feature
[09:03] <southern> I tried
[09:03] <tallmf> so what is the password I enter again to get root privileges
[09:03] <_jason> kyle_: okay, well just ask if you get stuck
[09:03] <tallmf> ?
[09:03] <kyle_> k
[09:03] <thegladiator> embedded with nautilus
[09:03] <wastrel> zebraFusion:  maybe helpful  http://davesource.com/Solutions/20050105.Control_Alt_Delete_Disable.html
[09:03] <cradek> !root
[09:03] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:03] <MisterN> Taker: i'll start "Vier gewinnt"
[09:03] <viller> hi
[09:03] <_jason> kyle_: have you learned about synaptic?
[09:03] <tallmf> I forgot who gave it to me
[09:03] <kyle_> a bit
[09:03] <viller> i have an app, but it's just in a folder, it's not installed
[09:03] <nickrud> southern, type this in a terminal: sudo adduser cupsys shadow && sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart . Then try again
[09:03] <southern> i go to "Do Administration Tasks" and after password says Authorization failed Retry???
[09:04] <kenneth> I use Ubuntu 5.10 and I have installed the "make" (apt-get install make). But every time I write "make" I get this messege: gcc -DLinux -g -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
[09:04] <kenneth> -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64   -c -o kissd.o kissd.c
[09:04] <kenneth> make: gcc: Command nat found
[09:04] <kenneth> make: *** [kissd.o]  faull 127
[09:04] <kyle_> i really want to get into this linux
[09:04] <tallmf> I jsut want to move a file into a folder and it says I dont have permission
[09:04] <_jason> tallmf: sudo <command>, or sudo -s, your user password
[09:04] <thegladiator> viller, what sort o application ? deb package ?
[09:04] <tallmf> so its not a command really
[09:04] <viller> i want to create a script or something to /usr so I could open the app by typing it's name in the terminal, how do i do that?
[09:04] <cradek> !build-essentials
[09:04] <ubotu> cradek: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:04] <cradek> !build-essential
[09:04] <ubotu> [build-essential]  a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[09:04] <nickrud> southern, ubuntu disabled the web interface to cups, that will reenable it
[09:04] <cradek> !gcc
[09:04] <ubotu> gcc is, like, the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[09:04] <cradek> haha
[09:04] <thegladiator> viller, shell script ?
[09:04] <cradek> there it is
[09:04] <_jason> tallmf: what directory are you trying to move?
[09:04] <viller> thegladiator: yes
[09:05] <kenneth> thanks
[09:05] <Organs> Er, hey....I've got a question about the installation process not covered on the website.
[09:05] <thegladiator> viller, do you intend to make it work from the terminal or from the X , i.e nautilus ?
[09:05] <thegladiator> nautilus lets you create launchers
[09:05] <viller> how?
[09:05] <[cro] smiley> please help: skype says: Problem with sound device
[09:05] <_jason> Organs: you can just ask and if someone knows they will help you
[09:05] <thegladiator> viller, can you temme what sort of a pp is this ?
[09:06] <southern> nickrud
[09:06] <southern> i did it
[09:06] <Organs> Sounds like a plan.  What mirror should I use to download packages for ubuntu?
[09:06] <viller> thegladiator: i know what's a launcher, but which command is for executeing?
[09:06] <Organs> The default mirror doesn't work.
[09:06] <southern> what user: root password: ???
[09:06] <thegladiator> viller, in the dektop right click , creat launcher and give the necessary command for that
[09:06] <nickrud> southern, now log in with your own username and password
[09:06] <zebraFusion> If I have sshd installed, where would my ssh config be?
[09:06] <zebraFusion> located...
[09:06] <wastrel> suddenly mozilla is displaying pdf's for me - how do i tell it not to do this, it used to pop up a dialog asking what i wanted it to do
[09:07] <thegladiator> viller, in case of launchers you can just click and it is executed
[09:07] <thegladiator> viller, but what sort of app is this , normally how do you run it ?
[09:07] <southern> NICKRUD!!!! THANK YouU
[09:07] <wastrel> zebraFusion:  most stuff like that is in /etc  /etc/ssh/
[09:07] <southern> :))))
[09:07] <thegladiator> viller, you go to the folder and click what?
[09:07] <kyle_> what are the chances that my drivers are installed, cos i think my monitor's in 60Hz, my eyes are spazing
[09:07] <viller> thegladiator: blender.bin
[09:07] <drfoz> [cro] smiley  did it work once then quit? or not at all
[09:07] <nickrud> southern, yw, I gacked when I first saw that :631 was disabled
[09:07] <viller> thegladiator: well it's just blender in nautilus
[09:08] <[cro] smiley> drfoz, not at all
[09:08] <thegladiator> viller, alright viller normally you just go into the directory and go to cmd line and type ./blender.bin right ?
[09:08] <[cro] smiley> drfoz, but my mic forks fine
[09:08] <[cro] smiley> *works
[09:08] <viller> thegladiator: yes
[09:08] <nickrud> kyle_, try System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[09:08] <[cro] smiley> drfoz, can u call me?
[09:09] <thegladiator> viller, and now what do you want to achieve ?
[09:09] <kyle_> sorted
[09:09] <thegladiator> viller, i am unclear as to what you want to achieve , you want to tun it with a click or something ?
[09:09] <thegladiator> run*
[09:09] <viller> i want to run it by just typing blender
[09:10] <kyle_> what file system does this linux use
[09:10] <drfoz> [cro] smiley i know i had problems before if ii use the voice recorder then try to use skype
[09:10] <nickrud> kyle_, ext3 by default
[09:10] <thegladiator> hmmmm ... you can creat  a shell for that in /usr/bin
[09:10] <thegladiator> if I am not mistaken...
[09:10] <thegladiator> whats the full qualified name of the dirrcoty viller ?
[09:10] <thegladiator> i will create a shell for you
[09:10] <kyle_> how long does it take to learn this OS
[09:11] <kyle_> and do i need to make bios changes
[09:11] <pianoboy3333> kyle_: not that long, need help?
[09:11] <nickrud> a lifetime ;)
[09:11] <pianoboy3333> kyle_: bios changes for what?
[09:11] <viller> thegladiator: i figured out that i can just type the path to the file in launcher properties
[09:11] <viller> thegladiator: thanks anyway
[09:11] <thegladiator> kyle_, slowly you will start to learn
[09:11] <kyle_> what the fuck am i talking about
[09:11] <thegladiator> its not about learning actually
[09:11] <thegladiator> its abour getting used
[09:12] <sdh> kyle_: good question
[09:12] <Bandit> amazing
[09:12] <pianoboy3333> Is there some ubuntu or other site where I can get information on ubuntu news? Like if Dapper Flight 4 comes out, is there a page that info will be posted on?
[09:12] <thegladiator> viller, np that was simple enuf
[09:13] <kyle_> i'm having fun not knowing what i'm doing
[09:13] <tallmf> guys..I am jus ttrying to move a file into my HD and it says that I do not have permission
[09:13] <tallmf> is this a "root user" issue?
[09:13] <abhiubuntu> not able to play mp3 on xmms ,ubuntu.any help?
[09:13] <kyle_> i wish i knew why i formated my harddrive to install linux
[09:13] <tallmf> this is NOT ntfs formatte3d
[09:14] <kyle_> i like been random
[09:14] <djp> anyone know why when i click on an .m3u link in firefox, nothing happens? it appears that rhythmbox is the default player for .m3u files... is that correct and if so, why won't it play the stream?
[09:14] <abhiubuntu> not able to play mp3 on xmms ,ubuntu.any help?
[09:14] <Madeye> guys, How to send files from PC to phone with bluetooth? I can send from Phone to PC, but I couldn't find out how to send from pc to phone
[09:15] <_jason> tallmf: from where and to where are you moving the file
[09:15] <klippo> hello. im running dapper. and it gives me a really high load. 1.00 in idle. and running w or who i cannot see users inlogged.. why is that
[09:15] <HappyFool> pianoboy3333: you can subscribe to a mailing list. (ubuntu-announce springs to mind: see https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/). Also check out fridge.ubuntu.com (weird pics...)
[09:15] <Mabus06> How do I install a package and all of it's dependencies on a computer without the internet? I have an ubuntu machine available with a cd burner, is it possible for me to burn it all onto a cd (or usb drive) and put it on the other? And also, how do I find out what packages are dependant?
[09:15] <Mabus06> !mp3
[09:15] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:15] <klippo> hello. im running dapper. and it gives me a really high load. 1.00 in idle. and running w or who i cannot see users inlogged.. why is that
[09:15] <djp> Madeye, i gather you are using gnome-bluetooth?
[09:15] <_jason> Mabus06: to your second question: apt-cache depends packagename
[09:15] <kyle_> PARTY
[09:15] <nickrud> Mabus06, apt-zip may help
[09:16] <Madeye> djp, yes
[09:16] <mzuverink> Are there any blog installing software packages on the Ubuntu Repo's, or if not can someone recommend one that I can install just for a specific user?
[09:16] <djp> Madeye, i have created a launcher on my desktop, which allows me to drag files onto it and they are then sent to my phone.
[09:16] <Madeye> djp, can I have it ?
[09:17] <Mabus06> nickrud: apt-zip?
[09:17] <nickrud> mzuverink, try apt-cache search blog in a terminal; there's a bunch
[09:17] <[cro] smiley> drfoz, can u try to call me (my nick is smi13y)
[09:17] <mzuverink> nickrud:thqnks
[09:17] <[cro] smiley> drfoz, please
[09:17] <Mabus06> _jason: thanks
[09:17] <nickrud> Mabus06, a package that's designed for exactly what you want: get dependencies, and download on another machine (dapper has this built into synaptic, I hear)
[09:17] <djp> Madeye, just right click on your desktop and click on create launcher. name it what you like and point it to /usr/bin/gnome-obex-send
[09:18] <southern> nickrud: my printer is on lpt, what do I have to write to "Location" field when I "Add New Printer"?
[09:18] <Mabus06> nickrud, so sudo apt-get apt-zip? or is apt-zip part of apt?
[09:18] <djp> Madeye, if you want an icon for it, i use /usr/share/gnome-bluetooth/pixmaps/blueradio-48.png
[09:18] <nickrud> Mabus06, apt-get apt-zip
[09:18] <Mabus06> and then, apt-zip packagename ?
[09:19] <nickrud> southern, Location is physical location (like an office)
[09:19] <southern> :D
[09:19] <curley_sue> HELP! my mounted partitions do not appear any longer on the Desktop nor in Places menu (
[09:19] <Madeye> djp, thank you!
[09:19] <Madeye> :D
[09:19] <djp> what is the default player for m3u files?
[09:19] <nickrud> Mabus06, pretty much: you do have to do some setup. I hate pointing you at the man page, but it's been a long time since I've used
[09:20] <djp> Madeye, no probs
[09:20] <djp> glad i could help for a change! ;)
[09:20] <nickrud> djp, right click an m3u file, and check properties->open with. The radio button defines the default app.
[09:21] <fletch33> could someone take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9212 and tell me how to know or what i may be missing. i am installing a .deb package and i have to assume it will not run now because i am missing dependencies. do you think this is the case and if so how do i fix it.  thanks
[09:21] <djp> nickrud, ok thanks. by default rhythmbox appears to be set, however if i open the m3u with that, rhythmbox opens but nothing else happens
[09:22] <nickrud> djp, do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[09:22] <kyle_> how come when i download something it doesn't work (like .deb .rpm)
[09:22] <danychouinard> How do I set the name of a printer under 5.10 and gnome?
[09:22] <danychouinard> I mean, with the GUI
[09:22] <fletch33> kyle_,  did you install it
[09:23] <khan_> !xgl
[09:23] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
 do you use apt-get to install things?
[09:23] <nickrud> kyle_, rpm's will never work (ubuntu not an rpm based system) and debs are installed by typing sudo dpkg -i <file> (not recommended)
[09:23] <djp> nickrud, yes
[09:23] <kyle_> what do i use then
[09:24] <nickrud> djp, then I'm not sure why it wouldn't. I'd just install beep-media-player and make it the default ;)
[09:24] <fletch33> nickrud,  did you happen to catch the post i just made here and if so maybe you could give me some advice
[09:24] <djp> nickrud, this is the link i am clicking on... http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/thursdaygroup-first/hifi.m3u. does it work for you?
[09:24] <fletch33> nickrud, i installed a deb but i cant get it fired up
[09:24] <nickrud> fletch33, I looked at that, but I do not understand python
[09:25] <_jason> fletch33: what is that that you are running?
[09:25] <variable> how can i make ubuntu just reload all the usb devices that are in? because sometimesit just stops seeing stuff?
[09:25] <[cro] smiley> drfoz, thanx again ;)
[09:25] <fletch33> nickrud,  bitpim it is a tool for communicating with LG cell phones
[09:25] <nickrud> djp, I get a blank firefox window
[09:25] <Mersault> what distinguishes ubuntu server from regular ubuntu. I mean, I get the idea, but I'm having trouble finding details. mostly, I'm looking to use ubuntu as the base for a mythtv box, but I want to minimize the system resources used by the distro itself.
[09:25] <fletch33> nickrud,  it is the only thing keeping me from not using windows at all
[09:26] <djp> nickrud, hmm
[09:26] <_jason> fletch33: the error is that libtiff.so.3 is missing, now lucky for you the repos only have libtiff.so.4
[09:26] <drfoz> [cro] smiley yup.... have fun man
[09:26] <nickrud> fletch33, _jason seems to know much more than I about that
[09:26] <pianoboy3333> Is there some ubuntu or other site where I can get information on ubuntu news? Like if Dapper Flight 4 comes out, is there a page that info will be posted on?
[09:26] <fletch33> _jason,  so what do ya think i can do
[09:26] <fletch33> nickrud, thanks
[09:27] <kyle_> what's apt-get
[09:27] <_jason> kyle_: synaptic is a gui for apt-get basically
[09:28] <fletch33> kyle_,  i have felt your pain. i suggest that you read as much as possible and then like me you still wont know much :)
[09:28] <_jason> fletch33: is that the latest release they have?
[09:28] <nickrud> kyle_, apt-get is the mother of all tools for installing software
[09:28] <fletch33> _jason,  yes it just came out
[09:28] <we2by_> !internet radio
[09:28] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, we2by_
[09:28] <we2by_> !internetradio
[09:28] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, we2by_
[09:28] <danychouinard> Am I supposed to be able to set the name of my printers under gnome?
[09:28] <fletch33> _jason,  i had to alien it from a rpm
[09:28] <kiran_> hi, just wanted to install flash plugin for firefox, but it says that the installer does not support my x86_64 architecture.
[09:28] <bigmoe> anyone here uses fuse to write to the ntfs partition
[09:28] <kyle_> do i have it
[09:28] <we2by_> what program do I use to listen to internet radio?
[09:28] <nickrud> we2by_, streamtuner is a good tool
[09:28] <kyle_> on this linux thing
[09:29] <danychouinard> FLash is not available for 64bit beast
[09:29] <_jason> fletch33: you are probably better off asking on their forums before I go telling you bad things to do
[09:29] <kyle_> or do i need to download it (some how)
[09:29] <kbrooks> kyle_, you do have apt-get ...
[09:29] <bigmoe> i wanted to mount this partition but i could not
[09:29] <nickrud> kyle_, you have it
[09:29] <nickrud> !apt
[09:29] <ubotu> [apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[09:29] <bigmoe> i installed fuse by apt-get
[09:29] <fletch33> _jason,  i have with no luick with help for ubu
[09:29] <nickrud> kyle_, see that ubotu link above for apt-get info
[09:30] <kiran_> danychouinard, does it mean i cant't open flash sites on my machine :s?
[09:30] <kyle_> k
[09:30] <lucasvo> !opengl
[09:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lucasvo
[09:30] <kbrooks> kiran_, you can, but it involves too much
[09:30] <danychouinard> Kiran, basicly yes.  I remerber some info on ubuntu site, lemme look
[09:30] <nickrud> kyle_ : you have a lot of reading to do. The learning curve is steep, but manageable
[09:30] <bigmoe> can anyone help
[09:31] <curley_sue> HELP! my mounted partitions do not appear any longer on the Desktop nor in Places menu
[09:31] <kbrooks> nickrud, learning curve?
[09:31] <kyle_> all i want is for it to read dvds
[09:31] <_jason> kyle_: you added the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list right?
[09:31] <Swiff> I have this mplayer plugin in mozilla how do I set it to play mpgs?
[09:32] <kbrooks> nalioth once said that you have to work for it if you want it
[09:32] <kyle_> i think i added it to something else
[09:32] <nickrud> kbrooks, nalioth is correct, once again :)
[09:32] <kbrooks> _jason, give him the guide.
[09:32] <kyle_> um, i think i'm retarded
[09:32] <kbrooks> kyle_, no, you're not.
[09:32] <Swiff> Kyle how dare you steal my name (0_o) lol
[09:32] <ecen> hello, im new to linux. i think i succesfully installed ubuntu 5.10 but when i start the computer it just ask the login and password and then it stays on the console. it never loads a graphical interface. is there something wrong? do i have to typa something to enter the graphical interface?
[09:32] <kbrooks> kyle_: you were once new to windows.
[09:33] <Swiff> Kyle its my property :P
[09:33] <pianoboy3333> Is there an ubuntu news site with recent updates?
[09:33] <Swiff> the name haha
[09:33] <wastrel> curley_sue:  see if you have gnome-volume-manager running?
[09:33] <tallmf> GUYS-am I able to jsut click and drag a file into a folder or do I always have to go into the command prompt to do this?
[09:33] <danychouinard> kiran_  look here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava?highlight=%28flash%29
[09:33] <kyle_> i've been using it since the3.1 days
[09:33] <OmegaAlpha> hey, anyone know why my synaptic updates keeps popping up wanting me to install 'gnu tar update'
[09:33] <kyle_> & dosshell
[09:33] <Swiff> Kyle I mean retarted duh
[09:33] <_jason> fletch33: you should post on the forums, some people mention bitpim working so they can probably tell you what they did
[09:33] <k31th> guys, i have apache isntalled... i need to run php applications from my web server what do i need to install ? atm i only have libapache-mod-php4 installed
[09:34] <nm> anyone know how i can change the default permissions of files when they're uploaded by authenticated users to my vsftpd
[09:34] <nm> ?
[09:34] <wastrel> OmegaAlpha:  there's an update available for tar
[09:34] <mamefan> what command do I use to reconfigure a package?
[09:34] <kbrooks> Swiff, the "k" in "kbrooks" means "kyle"...
[09:34] <kiran_> tnx danychouinard
[09:34] <Swiff> o thats cool thanx
[09:34] <bigmoe> one question where is the device name when i want to mount it is /media/hda1 or others
[09:34] <curley_sue> wastrel, it does (I have them mounted only they appear only under /media and not as they supposed to under places)
[09:35] <Swiff> anyone know how to set mozilla mplayer to play mpegs and mpgs?
[09:35] <AstralJava> mamefan: sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[09:35] <ompaul> ecen, what video card have you got?
[09:35] <mamefan> AstralJava: thx
[09:35] <kyle_> i'm going to take a break
[09:35] <_jason> Swiff: is totem playing them and you want to get rid of it?
[09:35] <interferon> i'm having a very strange problem where after awakening my laptop from hibernation, attempting to list the contents of my home directory (with ls, nautilus, or emacs dired) just hangs.  if i try as root, or if i try to list any other directory, the problem doesn't occur
[09:35] <AstralJava> mamefan: no prob
[09:35] <Swiff> totem cant do it
[09:35] <nickrud> Swiff, right click a mpg file, properties->open with tab
[09:35] <Swiff> it says that
[09:35] <kbrooks> kyle_: break from what?
[09:35] <Swiff> o
[09:35] <kyle_> this
[09:35] <kbrooks> kyle_: "this"?
[09:35] <ecen> my video card is integrated on the intel 865g mother board
[09:36] <kyle_> linux
[09:36] <ecen> ompaul: my video card is integrated on the intel 865g mother board
[09:36] <OmegaAlpha> wastrel, yes i know, but it keeps popping up after i installed it
[09:36] <wastrel> curley_sue:  the gnome channel would be able to help you better perhaps
[09:36] <djp> nickrud, thanks for the help earlier. i have found out that it was a bug with rhythmbox (which is the default player incidentally, under breezy). you have to cpy the .m3u link address and paste it as a new radio station in rhythmbox to get it to play.
[09:36] <bigmoe> how can u open a tab in the console
[09:36] <kbrooks> kyle_: seriously: linux is not windows. do you understand?
[09:36] <nickrud> djp, ok, next time I'll know :)
[09:36] <ompaul> ecen, run the following command it may assist you >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[09:36] <bigmoe> without opening a new console
[09:37] <curley_sue> wastrel, how do I get there?
[09:37] <ompaul> ecen, the password it wants is yours
[09:37] <kyle_> i understand that
[09:37] <interferon> kbrooks, ?
[09:37] <kyle_> that's why i changed
[09:37] <kbrooks> kyle_: so do you expect dvds to automatically play under ubuntu?
[09:37] <ecen> yes, it does not complain when i type it. it is the password i assigned when installing
[09:37] <AstralJava> bigmoe: shift+control+t
[09:38] <kyle_> i didn't really expect any thing to work GOOD
[09:38] <wastrel> curley_sue:   /join #gnome
[09:38] <bigmoe> thanks AstralJava ur the only help in here
[09:38] <kbrooks> kyle_: just checking. did you check out the resources available to you?
[09:38] <curley_sue> wastrel, thanx alot!
[09:38] <kyle_> no
[09:39] <AstralJava> bigmoe: no prob... it's a busy channel, many things go by one's eyes...
[09:39] <Swiff> ok im in ubuntu breezy badger 5.10 and I have mozilla with mplayer plugin and I dont see how to set it to open mpegs or mpgs and totem dont do it???
[09:39] <AstralJava> gotta have patience
[09:39] <kbrooks> kyle_: help.ubuntu.com  wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:39] <ecen> ompaul: the thing is that everything runs in console mode. i mean, the initialization of the system and then, on the same console it asks for login and password and then nothing... just the console prompt
[09:39] <bigmoe> AstralJava: can you tell me hoe to mount the windows partition on ubuntu using fuse
[09:39] <mamefan> my gdm.conf is screwed up.  It has CRLF terminators.  How can I convert it to be NL terminated?
[09:39] <Swiff> anyone can help me with this?
[09:40] <ompaul> ecen, did you run that command?
[09:40] <yoyo> hi everybody
[09:40] <aet> mamefan: dos2unix ?
[09:40] <fdr> mamefan, have you tried with dos2unix ?
[09:40] <Swiff> hello
[09:40] <yoyo> again a question about systems...
[09:40] <wastrel> Swiff:  remove the totem plugin from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[09:40] <AstralJava> bigmoe: Sorry, I haven't got experience using fuse...
[09:40] <yoyo> i have an old pentium I with 32MB...
[09:40] <ecen> no, i have to restart to do it. ubuntu is installed on this same machine. im on windows now
[09:41] <Swiff> wast how I do this?
[09:41] <mamefan> dos2unix should do the trick.  What package is it in?
[09:41] <yoyo> which linux flavor would fit there?
[09:41] <bigmoe> thanks anyways
[09:41] <cblboy> ok, did a dual boot between ubuntu and winxp, had to repair my xp install, now i dont' have grub
[09:41] <cblboy> anyone help?
[09:41] <cblboy> no boot menu
[09:41] <yoyo> errr... pentium ii actually
[09:41] <_jason> ubotu: tell cblboy about grub
[09:42] <ecen> ompaul: i will restart and try the command, then if trouble i'll come back, thank you
[09:42] <ompaul> ecen, so after that do this >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm<<<
[09:42] <ompaul> ecen, if the graphics do not start
[09:42] <ompaul> then reboot once into Linux to check
[09:42] <AndyR> hi all
[09:42] <jsestri2> how come my  rhythmbox music player won't play mp3's?
[09:42] <ompaul> ecen, come back anyway
[09:43] <_jason> !mp3
[09:43] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:43] <wastrel> mamefan:  sysutils
[09:43] <ecen> ompaul: thank you, i'll come back anyway :)
[09:43] <pybe> cblboy: boot into rescue from the cd and re install grub in the mbr
[09:44] <Swiff> thanx wastell I just need to figureout how to do it lol
[09:44] <Swiff> Wastrell*
[09:45] <cblboy> that's it? sweet thanks
[09:45] <pybe> cblboy: yep
[09:45] <cblboy> hopefully i wont be back until i have a much better problem :)
[09:45] <yoyo> anyone for linux flavor on p-ii processor?
[09:45] <jsestri2> _jason: it still won't play...and i followed directions at that website...
[09:45] <kyle_> check out my linux um, rock band
[09:45] <pybe> yoyo: dsl
[09:46] <yoyo> pybe... i want linux on a pentium ii with 32MB...
[09:46] <Swiff> afk..
[09:46] <kyle_> www.freewebs.com/kylethedood
[09:46] <_jason> jsestri2: did you close rhythmbox and start it again?
[09:46] <yoyo> which linux to choose?
[09:46] <maria> does anyone know why i cant change my screen resolution from 60hz?
[09:46] <nickrud> yoyo, try damn small linux
[09:47] <yoyo> damn small linux?
[09:47] <kyle_> check out my music
[09:47] <jsestri2> _jason: yes sir
[09:47] <HedgeMage> yoyo: With only 32 MB ram you're looking at Damn Small or Gentoo really... maybe slack if you mess with it a bit
[09:47] <pybe> yoyo: www.damnsmalllinux.org
[09:47] <nickrud> yoyo, exactly :)
[09:47] <_jason> jsestri2: are you using breezy?
[09:47] <nalioth> kyle_: please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:47] <jsestri2> no dapper
[09:47] <yoyo> i think gentoo is really cool
[09:47] <kyle_> it's funny though
[09:47] <yoyo> but it has a lot of work on config stuff
[09:47] <_jason> jsestri2: dapper is development, try #ubuntu+1
[09:47] <pescez> what if ubuntu-calendar images are not shown in the desktop config window?
[09:48] <jsestri2> _jason: alright
[09:48] <pescez> i installed either ubuntu-calendar and the images packages...
[09:49] <yoyo> hey, thanks a lot
[09:49] <yoyo> i'll check that out
[09:49] <jsestri2> _jason: i don't know that its a dapper problem...
[09:49] <_jason> pescez: they should be in /usr/share/backgrounds/
[09:49] <pybe> yoyo: or just install base debian and apt get install whatever you want
[09:50] <_jason> jsestri2: dapper uses gstreamer0.10 I believe
[09:50] <Gadi> anyone know if the dpt_i2o bug was fixed for dapper?
[09:50] <SaLoMoN> gn8
[09:50] <Gadi> or in the latest breezy kernel, for that matter?
[09:50] <jsestri2> _jason alrgith
[09:50] <pescez> maybe i misunderstood the filosophy of this tool... why the make me install a package to make me select images directly from the dir?
[09:51] <yoyo> pybe... last version of debian?
[09:51] <yoyo> debian sarge? debian woody?
[09:51] <ivo_> Mustard5 Hi :)
[09:51] <nickrud> pescez, I think it has to do with keeping the images in the repository, but not easily available. They were controversial, once
[09:51] <mustard5> hey ivo_ :)
[09:51] <ivo_> Mustard5 how are u? :)
[09:52] <mustard5> ivo_, I'm good thanks..just browsing around the ubuntuforums reading stuff atm :)
[09:52] <ivo_> :)
[09:52] <_jason> pescez: I think you could just set your background to be /usr/share/backgrounds/ubuntu-calendar.jpg and it would get updated every month with the new package, but I never actually used it before they stopped updating so I am just speculating
[09:52] <bikini> is there no flash plug in for amd64?
[09:52] <mustard5> ivo_, I just noticed my nick notification go off when you typed my name..it makes xchat flash on my desktop :D
[09:53] <ivo_> :D
[09:53] <mustard5> ivo_, you learning lots of new stuff?
[09:54] <ivo_> Yes :)
[09:54] <broomy> hi my firened is wondering how to install Java in a easy way
[09:54] <ivo_> Mustard5 i got one qvestion ok?
[09:54] <mustard5> ivo_, yeah go for it :)
[09:54] <ivo_> :) how i instal rpm files? :)
[09:54] <exono> hi
[09:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell broomy about javadeb
[09:54] <nalioth> ivo_: you shouldn't. what program do you want to use?
[09:54] <mustard5> ivo_, what are you installing with rpm?
[09:55] <broomy> ubotu, jeah tell me :D
[09:55] <ubotu> broomy: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:55] <ivo_> lmms-0.1.4-1.pm.1.i586.rpm
[09:55] <p0windah> any breezy/ati/compiz ppl around ?
[09:55] <nalioth> ivo_: what program is that?
[09:55] <nm> nevermind, played with the umask
[09:55] <nm> and fixed it
[09:55] <maria> does anyone know why i cant change my screen resolution from 60hz?
[09:55] <nm> to anyone who was pondering my earlier question
[09:55] <apokryphos> p0windah: #ubuntu-xgl #xgl-ubuntu
[09:55] <p0windah> apokryphos: thanks
[09:55] <maria> errr refresh rate
[09:56] <ivo_> I don"t know my friend say to i install that program :)
[09:56] <ivo_> And i got lo of stuff rpm files
[09:56] <ivo_> and i don't know
[09:56] <ivo_> how to instal that
[09:57] <wastrel> sigh
[09:57] <we2by_> I have composite on and xcompmgr running with gnome here
[09:57] <we2by_> when I play videos with vlc player, I got black spots on the video window
[09:57] <we2by_> any one knows about this issue?
[09:57] <mustard5> ivo_, you might find a lot of those programs are already made for ubuntu in .deb packages
[09:58] <ompaul> ivo_, lmms =gkrellmms - GKrellM XMMS Plugin ??
[09:58] <mustard5> ivo_, open up synaptic package manager and search for something with the same name as the .rpm file
[09:58] <Ribs> we2by_: Tried turning off composite
[09:58] <Ribs> ?
[09:58] <nickrud> Linux Music Studio: ubuntu has 1.1
[09:58] <we2by_> but I like the effets
[09:58] <nickrud> error27, 0.1.1
[09:58] <ompaul> ivo_, we do not do rpm we do .deb but only .deb for ubuntu
[09:58] <we2by_> and don't wanna turn it off/on when I want to play videos
[09:59] <ivo_> Mustard5 ok i find big tnxxxxxxxxxx :)
[09:59] <mustard5> ivo_, .rpm is normally for the Red Hat/Fedora linux version
[09:59] <mustard5> ivo_, its a different linux
[10:00] <ivo_> Is beter then Unbuntu?
[10:00] <mustard5> ivo_, hehehe
[10:00] <exono> No
[10:00] <exono> :)
[10:00] <ivo_> :)
[10:00] <mustard5> ivo_, its been around longer
[10:00] <DracosX> better is (as always) subjective
[10:00] <mustard5> ivo_, ubuntu is new
[10:01] <ivo_> :)
[10:01] <kleinlappies> ahoy can anyone tell me bout how to mount an iso image?
[10:01] <DracosX> mount -t iso9660 file.iso /path/to/mount -o loop,ro
[10:01] <speyer> mustard5 what do you mean " ubuntu is new " ?
[10:02] <exono> mustard5: alien can conver .rpm to .deb ?
[10:02] <ivo_> Mustard5 u know any good web design program ?
[10:02] <Swiff> I have ubuntu breezy badger im realy realy new and I got alot of stuff installed lol
[10:02] <nalioth> exono: you should enable universe and multiverse repos and search for your program in ubuntu native format first
[10:02] <mustard5> ivo_, there is a package in Synaptic called 'nvu'
[10:02] <Swiff> is there a better distro for a nooby like me?
[10:02] <Swiff> maybe something stable and not kde lol
[10:02] <sovin> ubotu: tell sovin about mozilla activex
[10:03] <ivo_> ok tnx
[10:03] <mustard5> exono, it can convert it, but its not exactly the recommended course
[10:03] <mustard5> exono, especially for someone who has only installed ubuntu two days ago
[10:04] <ivo_> i find :)
[10:04] <sovin> question: I'm trying to install mozilla activex control (for a game i'm supporting through wine), and it is requesting i install it to a mozilla/bin dir.  I've been looking for a bit and it doesn't seem to exist -- has anyone a solution to me quandary?
[10:04] <mustard5> ivo_, k
[10:04] <Swiff> I got alot of stuff installed in ubuntu
[10:04] <exono> you got the point :9
[10:04] <Swiff> its amazing it actualy is functionable lol
[10:04] <mustard5> Swiff, http://www.distrowatch.com
[10:04] <Swiff> I can burn dvds
[10:04] <ivo_> when i done my web page i show u :)
[10:04] <Swiff> I have mozilla with mplayer plugin
[10:05] <mustard5> ivo_, ok :)
[10:05] <ivo_> :)
[10:06] <sovin> question: I'm trying to install mozilla activex control (for a game i'm supporting through wine), and it is requesting i install it to a mozilla/bin dir.  I've been looking for a bit and it doesn't seem to exist -- has anyone a solution to me quandary?
[10:07] <wastrel> sovin:  try #mozilla
[10:08] <nalioth> sovin: or #winehq
[10:08] <sovin> thank you.
[10:08] <sovin> #winehq
[10:09] <Swiff> I have a terminal in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins now how do I delete totem from it?
[10:09] <mustard5> Swiff, I really don't know, but I would be doing an ls command to see what it contains
[10:09] <kyle_> did u know i invented unix the second
[10:10] <Swiff> libjavaplugin_oji.so    mplayerplug-in-rm.so
[10:10] <Swiff> libtotem_mozilla.so     mplayerplug-in-rm.xpt
[10:10] <Swiff> libtotem_mozilla.xpt    mplayerplug-in.so
[10:10] <Swiff> mplayerplug-in-gmp.so   mplayerplug-in-wmp.so
[10:10] <Swiff> mplayerplug-in-gmp.xpt  mplayerplug-in-wmp.xpt
[10:10] <Swiff> mplayerplug-in-qt.so    mplayerplug-in.xpt
[10:10] <Swiff> mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt
[10:10] <Mindtzar> how do I run 32bit .deb files on a 64bit debian distro?
[10:10] <aaronshaf> Is is possible to do a samba share over the internet?
[10:10] <Swiff> thats what it has
[10:10] <mustard5> Swiff, you could even experiment by moving the file rather than deleting it
[10:10] <Mindtzar> how do I run 32bit .deb files on a 64bit debian distro?
[10:10] <Mindtzar> erm, also
[10:11] <Mindtzar> RPMS or BINs
[10:11] <fluvvell> if anyone is running dapper, is there a way of getting backports to breezy, eg the gutenprint drivers?
[10:11] <Mindtzar> RPMs*
[10:11] <kbrooks> kyle_ did u know i invented unix the second ...
[10:11] <DracosX> aaronshaf: possible, yes. smart no. I'd look into another server (ftp maybe? WebDAV? or plain ol' scp)
[10:12] <nalioth> Swiff: please read the /topic
[10:12] <Mindtzar> anyone know how to run 32bit RPMs or BINs on a 64bit debian distro?
[10:12] <ompaul> Mindtzar, rpms is source get the source from somewhere else save on the pain - bin is not a standard but if you see it sometimes sh NameHere.bin works and the last one I will get the bot to send you a message
[10:13] <kbrooks> kyle_ did u know i invented unix the second ...
[10:13] <kbrooks> OH RESALLY KYLE
[10:13] <kbrooks> well guess what kyle_
[10:13] <kbrooks> what is "unix the second"
[10:13] <kbrooks> and did u really invent it
[10:14] <Mindtzar> ompaul, can you get the bot to send it again
[10:14] <Mindtzar> some spam protection script blocked it
[10:14] <Mindtzar> thanks
[10:14] <ompaul> its there now
[10:14] <m_tadeu> hi everyone...how can i start a ppp connection at boot time?
[10:14] <kyle_> don't know, i was been random
[10:14] <Swiff> Nalioth im sorry
[10:14] <ompaul> Mindtzar, what kind of client are you using
[10:15] <Mindtzar> I'm using mIRC with NNscript
[10:15] <kyle_> that's what i'm good at
[10:15] <Mindtzar> NNscript is overzealous
[10:15] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I'm sure its possible..the how question I dont know
[10:15] <Swiff> Nolioth I hate erros driving me nuts (0_o) lol
[10:15] <Swiff> errors*
[10:15] <m_tadeu> mustard5:  :)
[10:16] <nalioth> Swiff: join #winehq, and i think you'll need mozilla installed inside your wine , not the mozilla you run under linux
[10:16] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I've accidently started one at boot time when I configured my dial up using the network manager in gnome :)
[10:16] <maria> anyone know how i can change the default picture directory for the screensaver glslideshow in dapper drake? theres no advance options which lets me choose any settings in the new screen saver manager
[10:16] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:16] <Swiff> I dopnt want wine
[10:16] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I didn't want it to do that though :)
[10:16] <Swiff> I want the benafits of linux
[10:16] <ompaul> Swiff, so why use active x
[10:16] <Swiff> why do I need to foster windows?
[10:16] <kyle_> it would be cool if Cubase SX3 was on linux
[10:17] <Swiff> I need to watch pron :(
[10:17] <nalioth> Swiff: why are you using an activex thing?
[10:17] <ompaul> Swiff, you asked nalioth about activex
[10:17] <m_tadeu> mustard5: lol thanks...its good just to know that its possible :)
[10:17] <Swiff> .mpg thats all
[10:17] <Swiff> I need
[10:17] <Swiff> to work
[10:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Swiff about multimedia
[10:17] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I can tell you a rough way that it might work....
[10:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Swiff about enter
[10:17] <m_tadeu> mustard5: please do...
[10:18] <ompaul> Swiff, it is advisable to read the info from the bot (ubotu)
[10:18] <mustard5> m_tadeu, if you set up ppp to dial on demand....when ubuntu starts up it tries to update the clock from the ntp time server...I wonder whether it would connect 'on demand' when the boot sequence tries to do this
[10:18] <mustard5> m_tadeu, just a thought..its not very elegant :)
[10:19] <wastrel> someone else was asking about activex not swiff
[10:19] <mustard5> m_tadeu, there would be a much better way to do it ..I am sure
[10:19] <wastrel> it was sovin
[10:19] <Auci> is there a way for ubunto to look into my windows hard drives, I want to transfer files.
[10:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Auci about mountwindows
[10:19] <kevor> why is totem in Firefox by default, there is NOTHING as crap as totem... it plays No online movies at all!
[10:19] <m_tadeu> mustard5: sounds good enough...how do i set it to connect on demand?
[10:19] <mustard5> kevor, does totem-xine play movies?
[10:19] <ompaul> !tell kevor about restricted
[10:20] <wastrel> totem plugin is broken in breezy
[10:20] <kevor> and if i try to remove totem "ubuntu-base" has to be removed too
[10:20] <nalioth> kevor: *nix is freedom, use the player of your choice
[10:20] <mustard5> m_tadeu, ummm...trying to remember the command now...pppconfig?
[10:20] <Auci> thanks
[10:20] <wastrel> ubuntu-base isn't necessary, it's just a wrapper
[10:20] <kevor> but how can it be that by default total crap players are chosen..
[10:20] <kevor> while Mplayer has a VERY good Firefox plugin...
[10:20] <ompaul> kevor, read what the bot send you
[10:20] <wastrel> mplayer has license issues
[10:21] <mustard5> m_tadeu, this method comes with no guarantees :)  I'm sure dial on demand could possibly be an annoying function
[10:21] <kevor> ompaul: that does not remove Totem, and totem keeps playing the movies..
[10:21] <jerrod> anybody need help with wpc54g?
[10:21] <mustard5> m_tadeu, anyway...run pppconfig in terminal
[10:22] <mustard5> m_tadeu, see if you can create a connection or edit your current connection to do dial on demand
[10:22] <m_tadeu> mustard5: i'm trying that...creating a new connection
[10:22] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I'll show you the whole ppp HOW TO
[10:22] <kevor> mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
[10:22] <kevor> still plays the damned movies in lame-old totem...
[10:22] <ompaul> kevor, what does not remove totem? all I asked you to do was understand why mplayer is not in the default
[10:22] <m_tadeu> mustard5: that would be great :)
[10:23] <kevor> ompaul: the website has a section: playing streaming video from the internet. I think that is what you wanted me to read and do?
[10:23] <mustard5> m_tadeu, what are you using to connect at the moment?
[10:23] <jerrod> just a quick question: what command will upgrade everything (apt-get -?) if there is such a command?
[10:23] <m_tadeu> mustard5: gnome-ppp
[10:24] <mustard5> m_tadeu, same as me ...k
[10:24] <nalioth> jerrod: use apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:24] <mustard5> m_tadeu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[10:24] <ompaul> kevor, it does, I did
[10:24] <bushito> what is the most virtual machine software is the most recommendabe to emulate windows?? =O
[10:24] <jerrod> grassy ass!
[10:24] <wastrel> kevor:  remove the totem plugin from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[10:24] <mustard5> m_tadeu, that will show you the 'ins and outs' of it anyway :)
[10:24] <kevor> wastrel: i hope that helps, thanks
[10:24] <mustard5> m_tadeu, the good stuff is near the bottom of the page
[10:24] <m_tadeu> mustard5: thanx :)
[10:24] <jerrod> nalioth: nothing but thanx!
[10:24] <wastrel> suddenly mozilla is displaying pdf's for me - how do i tell it not to do this, it used to pop up a dialog asking what i wanted it to do
[10:25] <kevor> wastrel: there is nothing called totem in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[10:25] <akaihola> bushito: Wine + winetools are best if the windows program in question is known to work with them
[10:25] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I suppose once you have a connection configured you could write some script that just uses 'pon' to start the connection
[10:25] <kevor> wastrel: ok there is a /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins thank you
[10:26] <mustard5> m_tadeu, then start that script up somehow in the startup sequence
[10:26] <akaihola> bushito: much faster than qemu or vmware player
[10:26] <blAckEn3d> hello...
[10:26] <bushito> akaihola, i am havving issues with the wine =P it exists when it is inside the prog
[10:26] <speyer> how will i stop the service on port 25 ?
[10:26] <jerrod> how do i get gzine to stop playing in mozilla and have it use mplayer?
[10:26] <bushito> akaihole guess ill need a windows emulator
[10:26] <mustard5> m_tadeu, just a thought though...should you make a backup of your current .wvdial config file?
[10:26] <blAckEn3d> i have a problem with nmap: when I run it as a normal user it works okay, but when I run it as root it spits this message: "Failed to determine the netmask of ! : No such device"
[10:27] <jerrod> im already in the plugin dir.
[10:27] <kevor> jerrod: go to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins remove all the totem thingies and install mozilla-mplayer
[10:27] <m_tadeu> mustard5: lol...i think its best :)
[10:27] <gnomefreak> blAckEn3d: you shouldnt run programs as root
[10:27] <jerrod> kevor: will mozplugger.so have anything to do with it?
[10:28] <kevor> jerrod: does it say totem?
[10:28] <blAckEn3d> gnomefreak, nmap needs root for some scan types
[10:28] <blAckEn3d> and aditional features
[10:28] <jerrod> kevor: bc i dont see any totem crap
[10:28] <mustard5> m_tadeu, did you want it to start prior to gnome loading...or when gnome loads?
[10:28] <kevor> no totem crap in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins either?
[10:28] <jerrod> kevor: its using gzine, not totem. problem is i see nothing with gzine, only mplayer stuff
[10:29] <suspended> what codec do i need for mp3s to work?
[10:29] <suspended> i've got lame :S
[10:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell suspended about mp3
[10:29] <kevor> jerrod: sorry, i misunderstood.. then i dno :)
[10:29] <jerrod> kevor: thanx neway!
[10:30] <kevor> :(
[10:30] <mustard5> suspended, the gstreamer mad package
[10:30] <suspended> oh cheers :)
[10:30] <mustard5> suspended, you probably have to 'register' it
[10:31] <jerrod> do windows distros come with in irq client built in?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> no
[10:31] <mustard5> suspended, you seen the restricted formats wiki page before?
[10:31] <jerrod> ok
[10:31] <suspended> mustard5, i have not
[10:31] <suspended> o wait
[10:31] <suspended> yes, sorry i am
[10:31] <gnomefreak> jerrod: windows come with new pcs might have one but windows new packages doesnt
[10:31] <mustard5> suspended, its all on there anyway
[10:32] <akaihola> bushito: Actually, Wine _is_ a Windows emulator. Other solutions involve virtual machines.
[10:32] <gnomefreak> why would you need to register gstreamer-mad i never had to?
[10:32] <mustard5> gnomefreak, I'm guessing :)
[10:32] <mustard5> gnomefreak, a shot in the dark that was wrong :)
[10:32] <akaihola> bushito: See http://winehq.org/site/download-deb for the newest version available for Ubuntu.
[10:32] <gnomefreak> lol its all good i just dont remember having to do it
[10:32] <jerrod> gnomefreak: see the problem is my friends dad disallowed downloading on her account so she has no way of IM me
[10:33] <bushito> akaihola already got the newest version
[10:33] <akaihola> bushito: Also, by installing the windows software with winetools you increase your chances to get a working environment.
[10:33] <gnomefreak> jerrod: than you need to talk with her and him
[10:33] <NOT_rynofly> hello
[10:33] <jerrod> i know
[10:33] <bushito> akaihola, where can iget winetools??
[10:33] <gnomefreak> !info winetools
[10:34] <akaihola> bushito: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[10:34] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrr :(
[10:34] <suspended> all works., cheers
[10:34] <gnomefreak> pssssst ther eis a wine repo :)
[10:34] <NOT_rynofly> hello, my ubuntu is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry slow
[10:35] <akaihola> bushito: Win4Lin used to be incredibly reliable and fast, but they changed their technology and the new versions are *much* slower. And the old product line doesn't work with current Ubuntu kernels.
[10:35] <NOT_rynofly> and also i can't su
[10:35] <gnomefreak> NOT_rynofly: use sudo not su
[10:35] <bushito> akaihola, win4lin?? (o_O)
[10:35] <kbrooks> sudo
[10:35] <kbrooks> !sudo
[10:35] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:36] <gnomefreak> !rootsudo
[10:36] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:36] <gnomefreak> same place :(
[10:36] <akaihola> bushito: Win4Lin is commercial software. I used to run a win98 installation inside Win4Lin and get better performance than with a native install.
[10:36] <bushito> akaihola ohh
[10:37] <gsuveg> re
[10:37] <gsuveg> with dh_make how can i build -dev library-es ?
[10:39] <kyle_> how do i open .IMG files in linux#
[10:39] <NOT_rynofly> thx gnome
[10:39] <NOT_rynofly> sudo is to complicated for me, i just went backt o traditional root
[10:40] <NOT_rynofly> lol
[10:40] <kyle_> HOW DO I OPEN >IMG FILES
[10:40] <csk_> hi all..can somone tell me how do u unmute alsamixer?
[10:40] <kyle_> HOW DO I OPEN .IMG FILES
[10:40] <gnomefreak> kyle_: lose the caps please
[10:40] <kyle_> k
[10:41] <NOT_rynofly> csk_ your sound card may not be set up or may be unsupported
[10:41] <csk_> any idea how i can set it up?
[10:41] <NOT_rynofly> if you can't just unmute by clicking the speaker on your taskbar
[10:41] <csk_> nah tried that
[10:41] <gnomefreak> now we all saw what you asked if you dont recieve an answer means that either noone knows or they are busy helping one of the other 600 people in here  if you dont get answer google or use ubuntuforums
[10:42] <kyle_> how do i open .img files                   HELP!!!
[10:42] <NOT_rynofly> we heard you
[10:42] <HedgeMage> kyle_: why on earth would I answer you when I could spend my energy on someone who isn't spamming the chan?
[10:43] <NOT_rynofly> csk: try system>preferences>sound
[10:43] <gnomefreak> kyle_: did you try changing the img to another extention?
[10:43] <kyle_> no
[10:43] <csk_> yeah then?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> kyle_: did you try opening it in gimp? or any of the other veiwers you have?
[10:43] <kyle_> no
[10:44] <gnomefreak> kyle_: try to veiw it than if you cant ask how
[10:44] <mocca> hey
[10:44] <NOT_rynofly> im not very linux savvy but if thres no setup thing there you can try device manager
[10:44] <thegladiator> kyle_, so are u happy now ?
[10:44] <NOT_rynofly> make sure your alsa is uptodate
[10:45] <kyle_> it's aa cd image
[10:45] <kyle_> it has a setup program on it
[10:45] <mocca> i got a question ... how can i just do a little hello world with gtk windows etc..??? is there a gtk package i can install with syn?
[10:45] <csk_> well the thing is it seems i got 2 things one is intel and the other is esquire. evertime i chage it to esquire and close it it reverts back to intel
[10:45] <gnomefreak> kyle_: still not being very informal i set up thing thats a cd image?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> informational
[10:46] <NOT_rynofly> csk: hmm in not sure
[10:46] <csk_> thanks anyway
[10:46] <wastrel> kyle_:  you can use the mount command to mount a disk image.
[10:47] <NOT_rynofly> lookup your sound adapter on google and see if its  supported hardware
[10:47] <kyle_> how do i do that
[10:47] <csk_> btw do u know if vibra 128 is compatiable with linux...or u know some place i can check
[10:47] <csk_> sound card i mean
[10:47] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[10:47] <ubotu> I heard hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:47] <wastrel> i think there's an explanation in the command-line cd burning howto
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ^^^will tell you what is supported
[10:48] <gnomefreak> !mount
[10:48] <ubotu> I guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:48] <SirKillalot> do you listen to any linux podcasts?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> :( that used to give the mount command :(
[10:49] <csk_> so if it aint there it doesnt work huh? :(
[10:49] <gnomefreak> csk_: what is it?
[10:49] <wastrel> mocca:  you probably need libgtk2.0-dev
[10:49] <csk_> cant find vibra 128 there
[10:49] <wastrel> mocca:  and build-essential of course.
[10:50] <gnomefreak> csk_: is it an onboard card?
[10:50] <larsemil> !xgl
[10:50] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:50] <NOT_rynofly> google it and there may be a project somewhere that is working on support for it
[10:50] <kyle_> i can't open my setup .IMG file
[10:50] <csk_> u mean is it installed within the computer? then yes
[10:50] <wastrel> kyle_:  go find the command line cd burning howto to learn how to mount disk images
[10:50] <gnomefreak> csk_: is it attached to the motherboard or is it in a pci slot
[10:50] <wastrel> what are you trying to set up
[10:51] <csk_> umm dont know
[10:51] <gnomefreak> csk_: is it the only sound card in the pc?
[10:51] <m_tadeu> mustard5: is there a way to use the file create by gnome-ppp with wvdial?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> wastrel: he never answere that question
[10:52] <gnomefreak> he wont for some reason
[10:52] <wastrel> it's probably something that's not going to work on linux
[10:52] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I believe they are one and the same....gnome-ppp is a front-end for wvdial
[10:52] <NOT_rynofly> hey im trying to install xfce ( desktop envonment) and as its checking its saying it can't find Glib (gmodule) >= 2.2.0
[10:52] <csk_> yes i think so...although when i go system>preference >sound in default sound card it says "intel 82801BA-ICH2" and Ensoniq Audio PCI
[10:52] <wastrel> <3 wvdial
[10:52] <mustard5> m_tadeu, did you create a new account or edit the current one?
[10:52] <henke> is there a way to make sure my laptops built-in sound card always claims the first alsa device? I have a USB camera which includes a microphone, so that when booting with the camera plugged in, it claims the first device instead, and my applications get no sound.
[10:52] <jhellen> Hello! I'm having some serious problems with dapper f-4 now. It's one of the Gnome-themes that makes every app that uses the theme crash :( Do you know how to fix this?
[10:52] <billh> Hello, I've got a question. Did the last "grub" update diable serial port support to get to the menu system ?>
[10:53] <MrKeuner> hi, in order to switch to dapper flight 4 can I simply replace breezy with dapper in sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> csk_: in terminal type lsmod and that will tell you what card and drivers if any are installed
[10:53] <Seveas> jhellen, file a bug
[10:53] <m_tadeu> mustard5: yes...i guess i'm using a complicated modem :) and have to set some configurations
[10:53] <thought> hello
[10:53] <billh> No matter what option I try and the key press doesn't trigger the menu to come up on the serial port.
[10:53] <linuxnewbie> hello, im back again
[10:53] <thought> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:
[10:53] <linuxnewbie> a question about installing ubuntu
[10:53] <thought> i keep on getting that error with aptget
[10:53] <Seveas> !tell thought about Seveas
[10:54] <thought> anyone know how to fix it
[10:54] <Seveas> thought, ubotu gave you the info
[10:54] <wastrel> jhellen:  your themes are in ~/.themes  (at least in breezy)  remove the offending theme
[10:54] <gnomefreak> thought: read your pm
[10:54] <jhellen> Seveas, The bug posting app crashes also when starting so should I do it at ubuntuforums.org?
[10:54] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I'm not sure how you would access a new account from gnome-ppp...I know you can specify which 'provider' with the pon command.
[10:54] <linuxnewbie> can i install ubuntu and just in case keep win as well if something goes too wrong?
[10:54] <Seveas> jhellen, http://launchpad.net/malone
[10:54] <mustard5> m_tadeu, gnome-ppp just seems to work with the .wvdial file in your $HOME
[10:55] <keithhhhhhhhh> hey anyone use torrents?  In the seeds column what does the number in (brackets)....I always assumed that it meant potential seeders.
[10:55] <jhellen> wastrel, I removed .themes but it didn't help :(
[10:55] <gnomefreak> jhellen: the whole file?
[10:55] <wastrel> jhellen:  did you install the theme yourself, or through apt?
[10:55] <csk_> i dont see anything which says "sound" except "soundcore               9184  1 snd
[10:55] <csk_> "
[10:55] <mustard5> m_tadeu, inspecting the inner workings of the .wvdial file might give some insight...
[10:56] <MrKeuner> which one is the answer bot here?
[10:56] <jhellen> wastrel, but I'm 100% sure it's one of the themes that messes up things because I've done it with different user-profiles
[10:56] <trappist> ubotu
[10:56] <m_tadeu> mustard5: its a wvdial.conf...i compared with /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial....the file format is not the same :(
[10:56] <gnomefreak> csk_: than ubuntu more than likely doesnt support it. im not sure if you can get drivers for that card for ubuntu anyway
[10:56] <mustard5> m_tadeu, ah ok
[10:56] <anto9us> linuxnewbie, yes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[10:56] <NOT_rynofly> hey im trying to install xfce ( desktop envonment) and as its checking its saying it can't find Glib (gmodule) >= 2.2.0
[10:56] <csk_> ahh k....thanks anyway
[10:56] <mustard5> m_tadeu, well you are moving past my knowledge anyway :)
[10:56] <jhellen> wastrel, I used the art-manager
[10:56] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I'll be consulting you soon ;)
[10:56] <m_tadeu> mustard5: great help anyway
[10:57] <keithhhhhhhhh> ya thanks
[10:57] <keithhhhhhhhh> hmph I thought so
[10:57] <keithhhhhhhhh> Im not getting any bandwidth
[10:57] <keithhhhhhhhh> oh well
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Seveas: did they finish the xubuntu upgrade yet?
[10:57] <moonunit> mustard5, you should be happy to know, im on breezy now, with no problems
[10:57] <mustard5> m_tadeu, I only learnt enough to get me online :D
[10:57] <kbrooks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticUpdates
[10:57] <mocca> i need help!!! someone familiar with gnome unbuntu and gtk?
[10:57] <mustard5> moonlite, yeah?
[10:57] <Seveas> gnomefreak, ?
[10:57] <m_tadeu> mustard5: lolol
[10:57] <keithhhhhhhhh> what do people think the best torrent client is for ubuntu
[10:57] <kbrooks> i dont like thisidea
[10:57] <keithhhhhhhhh> ?
[10:57] <kbrooks> keithhhhhhhhh, none?
[10:57] <mustard5> moonlite, you'll have to remind me of what problems you were having :)
[10:57] <trappist> keithhhhhhhhh: btdownloadcurses, hands down
[10:57] <moonunit> mustard5, wrong nick, im moonUNIT
[10:57] <Seveas> mocca, just ask...
[10:57] <mustard5> doh
[10:57] <m_tadeu> how can i set a usb with low_latency by default?
[10:57] <mustard5> silly autocomplete
[10:58] <moonunit> yeah, alright, carry on.
[10:58] <keithhhhhhhhh> ya none I think maybe my provider put the smack down on my dloads
[10:58] <gnomefreak> Seveas: i was told that the reason they pulled xubuntu out of dapper was upgrading to newest version and mine still isnt right (unless its that different)
[10:58] <keithhhhhhhhh> upload is going well
[10:58] <Seveas> gnomefreak, xubuntu-desktop should be installable right now, otherwise poke janimo in #xubuntu
[10:58] <wastrel> jhellen:  ~/.themes is just where the user-installed themes are stored.  if this was system-wide it must live elsewhere.
[10:58] <mustard5> moonunit, so how are you liking it?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ok ty ill see if i can grab it again
[10:59] <linuxnewbie> anto9us: thanks. i have already two partiotions on my hard drive and was thinking of installing ubuntu on one of them. but i cant understand how to do it.
[10:59] <gnomefreak> wastrel: isnt there a themes file under ~/.gnome
[11:00] <jhellen> wastrel, Thanks I will try to find it somewhere else then...maybe under root
[11:00] <acktvst> hi
[11:00] <acktvst> how can i install lame codecs?
[11:00] <wastrel> jhellen:  try locate <themename>
[11:00] <anto9us> linuxnewbie, the installer will allow you to select the partition to install to
[11:00] <amphi> linuxnewbie: the second is empty?
[11:00] <NOT_rynofly> hey im trying to install xfce ( desktop envonment) and as its checking its saying it can't find Glib (gmodule) >= 2.2.0
[11:00] <linuxnewbie> its empty
[11:00] <NOT_rynofly> how do i insatll it
[11:00] <wastrel> gnomefreak:  i seem to recall that themes used to live in ~/.gnome/themes  but on breezy i don't have that dir, just ~/.themes
[11:00] <linuxnewbie> as far as i understood, it didnt do anything
[11:00] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install whatever or use synaptic
[11:01] <amphi> linuxnewbie: you might be better off to delete it; then the installer can freely make the partitions it wants in the empty space
[11:01] <acktvst> how can i install lame codecs?
[11:01] <Seveas> NOT_rynofly, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:01] <waldo_> if i want to set up an ubuntu box with a wireless card as an accesspoint with WPA, how would i do that?
[11:01] <linuxnewbie> how do i delete it?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhh i thought it did too but im not sure if in breezy or not
[11:01] <NOT_rynofly> seveas: whats xubuntu?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> :(
[11:01] <amphi> waldo_: you have a card+driver that'll do master mode?
[11:01] <linuxnewbie> as i understood the installer wanted to delete my whole hard drive
[11:01] <Seveas> NOT_rynofly, ubuntu on xfce 
[11:02] <Seveas> xubuntu-desktop is the package that installs it all
[11:02] <NOT_rynofly> seveas: ! yay i don't have to do it manually!
[11:02] <NOT_rynofly> ^_^
[11:02] <waldo_> amphi: i have access to both a prism/2.5 and a cisco aironet 350.  i reckon one of them will.
[11:02] <Seveas> NOT_rynofly, manually installing things is sooo 1990s ;)
[11:02] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install is manually
[11:02] <NOT_rynofly> now i know why i insatlled ubunto
[11:02] <gnomefreak> lol@1990s
[11:02] <Seveas> waldo_, google for hostao and wpa_supplicant
[11:03] <Seveas> hostap that is...
[11:03] <Seveas> it's not going to be easy, but doable 
[11:03] <waldo_> Seveas: i thought wpa_supplicant was just the client side
[11:03] <thought> i'm still getting an error =\
[11:03] <thought> PG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[11:04] <gnomefreak> thought: the gpg error can be fixed if you do the key command for every unoffical repos
[11:04] <B_166-ER-X> after finishing (technically, succesfully) compiling 'gtkpod 0.99.2'    i have this error when trying to run it : gtkpod: error while loading shared libraries: libgpod.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:04] <B_166-ER-X>         PLease... i really need advice on this one
[11:04] <Seveas> waldo_, yeah, but hostap and w_s are from the same author so googling for both mayhelp ;)
[11:04] <waldo_> ic
[11:04] <acktvst> how can i install lame codecs? (4 encode ogg to mp3)
[11:04] <wastrel> jhellen:  looks like default gnome themes live in /usr/share/themes
[11:04] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, apt-get install gtkpod
[11:04] <thought> how can i find out about then
[11:04] <gnomefreak> thought: it should be in what the bot pasted you
[11:04] <gnomefreak> posted to you*
[11:04] <Seveas> thought, same way as you solved it for the other repository...
[11:04] <thought> i did it
[11:05] <thought> but it still giving me eroor
[11:05] <gnomefreak> thought: did it get rid of the one you did it for?
[11:05] <thought> errors
[11:05] <thought> yea
[11:05] <NOT_rynofly> when i try and run atp-get it says "bash: atp: command not found"
[11:05] <gnomefreak> now do it for the other repos
[11:05] <gnomefreak> NOT_rynofly: apt-get
[11:05] <NOT_rynofly> ahh
[11:05] <NOT_rynofly> damn typos
[11:05] <linuxnewbie> alright thanks. ill go for the last and final try now
[11:06] <thought> yup
[11:06] <gnomefreak> NOT_rynofly: btw before you went and changed sudo and enabled su you should have read about it you can get root term with sudo too
[11:07] <jhellen> wastrel: Thanks I found the themse :P I will remove every one of them :) Hmm should i file a bug report also
[11:07] <NOT_rynofly> gnomefreak: yeah i did lol
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ok
[11:08] <NOT_rynofly> now i got "couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop"
[11:08] <gnomefreak> enabling su is not recommended i never did find out why but thats what it says on wiki (fond of sudo)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> NOT_rynofly: you need universe enabled
[11:08] <NOT_rynofly> oh doh
[11:08] <NOT_rynofly> my ethernet isn't connected
[11:08] <NOT_rynofly> ><
[11:08] <Seveas> NOT_rynofly, enable universe
[11:08] <gnomefreak> its not?
[11:08] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas,  (sorry for the lag, the plumber was here (..) ) the gtkpod in the repos is is 0.94, i want 0.99
[11:09] <Seveas> !tell NOT_rynofly about universe
[11:09] <gnomefreak> NOT_rynofly: how are you chating with us?
[11:09] <Seveas> !info gtkpod dapper
[11:09] <ubotu> gtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.99.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 480 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB
[11:09] <NOT_rynofly> other pc
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhh
[11:09] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas,  i have a HARD time with gtkpod 0.94 with my ipod shuffle.
[11:09] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, can you waye 10 minutes?
[11:09] <Angel_Dex> how do i configure tinyhoneypot?
[11:09] <B_166-ER-X> waye ?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> NOT_rynofly: well your gonna need it hooked up after you enable the univers repo
[11:09] <dos000> howdy
[11:09] <Seveas> wait*
[11:09] <B_166-ER-X> hm, yeap, np
[11:10] <thesnake> Hi, im new to this...
[11:10] <IdleOne> thesnake:  welcome to this
[11:10] <thesnake> Thnx
[11:10] <dos000> anyone know how i can compile compiz and xgl completely in breezy .. i cant get any links for breezy
[11:10] <IdleOne> !xgl
[11:10] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:11] <m_tadeu> is there a way to start a usb port with the low_latency parameter by default?
[11:11] <thesnake> what is ops?
[11:12] <IdleOne> thesnake:  do you mean on irc?
[11:12] <insites> anyone else have trouble with acx111 wifi support? iam i mistaken that the acx kernel module is supposed to support the chipset?
[11:12] <thought> hmm
[11:12] <thesnake> IdleOne: No on this X-Chat
[11:13] <thought> is anyone getting an error with openoffice writer
[11:13] <Angel_Dex> How Do i configure tinyhoneypot?
[11:13] <IdleOne> thesnake:  try www.xchat.org/help there are links to other sites that will explain what irc is and other usefull things
[11:13] <wastrel> check /usr/share/doc/tinyhoneypot
[11:13] <thesnake> IdleOne:   Ok thanks
[11:14] <lullabud> dammit, this trackpad tap-to-click stuff is making me crazy.
[11:14] <IdleOne> thesnake:  ops is short for Operator ( moderator for this channel aka chat room )
[11:14] <insites> is there a way to ascertain what firmware your wifi card is loadign with?
[11:14] <thesnake> ohhh ok
[11:15] <iBalo> insites: check what dmesg has zo say about that
[11:15] <insites> iBalo, thx am looking now
[11:15] <damned|home> hi all
[11:16] <IdleOne> hhhhhheey
[11:16] <omiel88> Witam Kto Z Polski?
[11:16] <wastrel> you're welcome
[11:16] <gnomefreak> !pl
[11:16] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:16] <insites> iBalo, dmessage says nothing about it... only abotu th eothert wireless card i run in this laptop. (which is removed)....
[11:16] <sander__> How do I remove a memory stick? remove is ghosted in nautilus.
[11:17] <damned|home> (dapper) how can i return to previouse version of firefox? i've updated right now to latest version and now it crashes...
[11:17] <IdleOne>  go to #ubuntu+1 for Dapper help :-)
[11:17] <damned|home> thnx
[11:17] <thesnake> I was wandering...I have a webcam and what program can I use to mess with the webcam?
[11:17] <georgy> wish webcam
[11:17] <iBalo> insites: tail /var/log/syslog or whatever that file has in earlier lines...
[11:17] <insites> /var/log/messages has output... concerning it...
[11:18] <insites> will check syslog
[11:19] <Angel_Dex> !tinyhoneypot
[11:19] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Angel_Dex
[11:19] <insites> iBalo, it is complainign about a /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf... "semicolon expected"
[11:19] <malcore> salve
[11:19] <insites> malcore, someone is watching too much HBO :)
[11:20] <iBalo> that'S nothing about firmware... dhcp comes later
[11:20] <malcore> ?
[11:20] <geneo93> final destination 3 is good
[11:20] <thesnake> Is there a way to get Windows Media Player 10 to work on Ubuntu 5.10/
[11:20] <thesnake> ?*
[11:20] <interferon> is there a command-line program that will list all installed APT packages?
[11:20] <iBalo> _hehehe_
[11:21] <gnomefreak> dpkg -l
[11:21] <bimberi> interferon: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[11:21] <insites> iBalo, acx: firmware 'Rev 2.3.1.31' does not work well with this driver
[11:21] <interferon> gnomefreak, thanks
[11:21] <Angel_Dex> I installed Tinyhoneypot but idk what to do with it no? how doi run it? or config it? and does it afect my firewall?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:21] <insites> does that mean i have that firmware or is that just a msg?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Angel_Dex: what is it?
[11:22] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  check /usr/share/doc/tinyhoneypot
[11:22] <insites> uploaded firmware = 2.3.1.31 i see it...
[11:22] <Siddhartha211> someone want to answer my question
[11:23] <interferon> does dpkg run on top of apt-get, or vice-versa? (or none of the above)
[11:23] <Siddhartha211> i put my address in the shipit.ubuntu.org
[11:23] <Angel_Dex> wastrel ah many thanks
[11:23] <Siddhartha211> and they are going to ship ubuntu
[11:23] <Siddhartha211> but how long does it take?
[11:23] <iautomech> how do i make Ubuntu windows compatible
[11:23] <Siddhartha211> ive been waiting for a week
[11:23] <gnomefreak> 6-8 weeks
[11:23] <iautomech> as in... where do i find xwine?
[11:23] <Siddhartha211> ARE you serious???
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Siddhartha211 about enter
[11:23] <thesnake> lol
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Siddhartha211: go to the shipit site it tells you all about it
[11:23] <georgy> depends where you lives
[11:24] <gnomefreak> it could take up to 3 months in some cases
[11:24] <interferon> two computers ubuntized in two days - it's been a good week
[11:24] <thesnake> I just downloaded mine...
[11:24] <Siddhartha211> Gnomefreak what you mean enter
[11:24] <Siddhartha211> im not doing anything wrong
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Siddhartha211: use complete senteces read what the bot posted in your pm
[11:24] <iautomech> how do i make ubuntu window compatible
[11:24] <Siddhartha211> i dont get it
[11:24] <iautomech> *windows compatible
[11:24] <Siddhartha211> i am using complete sentences
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Siddhartha211: you were?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> i saw your sentece on 3 lines
[11:25] <gnomefreak> damn sentence
[11:25] <Siddhartha211> how is "damn sentence" a complete sentence
[11:25] <Siddhartha211> ur violating the rule yourself
[11:25] <iautomech> stop arguing please, and help me
[11:25] <iBalo> iautomech: have you tried meditation, lighting a fire and doing a rain dance or voodoo-magic already?
[11:25] <thesnake> lol
[11:26] <iautomech> ya very funny ibalo
[11:26] <iautomech> not i've not tryed that
[11:26] <lullabud> "damn sentence" is a complete sentence.  it's an exclamation.
[11:26] <thesnake> well cya
[11:26] <thesnake> uhhhh
[11:26] <lullabud> it just wasn't punctuated correctly.
[11:26] <Cooner750> What does it mean when Gnome shows a ? mark icon when mousing over a *.mp3?
[11:26] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, still there?
[11:26] <Siddhartha211> how are my sentences not complete sentence
[11:27] <llllllllllllllll> .....will be compiz a standart componend of dapper?
[11:27] <Siddhartha211> UHH isnt a complete sentence
[11:27] <Siddhartha211> why dont you admonish him
[11:27] <Siddhartha211> you racist
[11:27] <Seveas> llllllllllllllll, no, it will be available but not installed by default
[11:27] <lullabud> man, this room needs some moderation.
[11:27] <thesnake> Oh, Almost Forgot..I downloaded some music off of Walmart.com on my XP so how do I play it on Ubuntu?
[11:27] <Seveas> lullabud, indeed
[11:27] <iautomech> ya... i know no one will help me
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Siddhartha211: try this how long does it take to get the cds, ive been waiting for every or whatever  see all on one line that doesnt look like spamming the room
[11:27] <llllllllllllllll> Seveas: what will be default?
[11:27] <Angel_Dex> anyone notice the 666 amount of pple here abit ago?
[11:27] <Angel_Dex> XD
[11:28] <Seveas> llllllllllllllll, normal X
[11:28] <Seveas> with a normal window manager
[11:28] <llllllllllllllll> Seveas: ok
[11:28] <Seveas> xgl/compiz is too young and too broken
[11:28] <majd> hey, i just downloaded an mp3, but it won't play in any player
[11:28] <majd> do i need special codecs?
[11:28] <llllllllllllllll> too broken? is it alpha?
[11:28] <iBalo> !mp3
[11:28] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:28] <gnomefreak> xgl is only for 3d cards right?
[11:28] <majd> figured...thanks
[11:29] <llllllllllllllll> gnomefreak: yes, as I know
[11:29] <gnomefreak> llllllllllllllll: yes just like dapper is
[11:29] <lullabud> !ntfs
[11:29] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:29] <gnomefreak> llllllllllllllll: i didnt know i was asking
[11:29] <ratley> where should i put firmware files for my wireless card?
[11:29] <acktvst> how can i install lame codecs? (4 encode ogg to mp3)
[11:29] <wastrel> !mp3
[11:29] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:29] <insites> llllllllllllllll, you nic is screwing up my irc window.
[11:30] <ufaiL8Ch> !ogg
[11:30] <ubotu> ufaiL8Ch: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:30] <acktvst> i have it enabled wastrel
[11:30] <Seveas> Hobbsee, look at your hostname 
[11:30] <interferon> llllllllllllllll, change your nickname
[11:30] <Siddhartha211> can someone help me....i cant send private messages it says im unregistered, but in actuality i am registered
[11:30] <iautomech> how do i get xwine on my repositories?
[11:31] <Seveas> Siddhartha211, no you're not, read http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[11:31] <Siddhartha211> please, im being polite, im using complete sentences
[11:31] <Siddhartha211> i already inputed the command to register
[11:31] <Siddhartha211> in my last time here
[11:31] <interferon> Siddhartha211, #freenode
[11:31] <Seveas> Siddhartha211, you need to identify each time
[11:32] <Siddhartha211> what is the command for that?
[11:32] <fredde> how do I change gtk in ubuntu?
[11:32] <Hobbsee> Seveas: i saw!  thankyou so much!
[11:32] <Seveas> fredde, 'change gtk'?
[11:32] <Seveas> Siddhartha211, /msg nickserv help
[11:32] <fredde> seceas: theme
[11:32] <lullabud> !synaptics
[11:32] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lullabud
[11:32] <Seveas> !themes
[11:32] <Siddhartha211> REGISTER
[11:32] <Seveas> !tell fredde about themes
[11:32] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas,  ! yep
[11:33] <B_166-ER-X> i'm here
[11:33] <burnboy> my forum post is getting burried, can anyone here provide an insite on Locales - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133895
[11:33] <burnboy> insight*
[11:33] <Siddhartha211> The nickname [Siddhartha211]  is already registered
[11:33] <Seveas> B_166-ER-X, http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas - look at the backports section, latest gtkpod/libgpod are in there
[11:33] <Siddhartha211> i registered it last time
[11:33] <Siddhartha211> so how do i log in now
[11:33] <Seveas> Siddhartha211, please go to #freenode for IRC help
[11:33] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas,  ok, thx, i'll talk to ya about it when i try ... have to go for a moment ...my turn ..
[11:34] <gnomefreak> why wont the config files for xubuntu be purged with it i purged xubuntu-desktop and xfce4 and i run locate there are alot still there
[11:34] <lullabud> yeah, Siddhartha211.  this isn't really the place for those types of questions, which is why you're not getting answers.
[11:34] <Seveas> gnomefreak, you need to purge all apps
[11:34] <Seveas> gnomefreak, little tip: dpkg -l | grep '^rc'
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ty
[11:34] <ratley> how do i disable ndiswrapper?
[11:35] <lullabud> i can't seem to disable tap-to-click on my dell latitude.  anybody a guru?  i've tried 7 different ways.
[11:35] <iautomech> guess no one wants to help me?
[11:35] <Seveas> gnomefreak, if that output only package you have removed and want purged: dpkg -l | grep '^rc' | xargs sudo dpkg -P
[11:35] <lullabud> iautomech: !ntfs
[11:35] <lullabud> !ntfs
[11:35] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:35] <iautomech> n
[11:35] <iautomech> ntfs?
[11:35] <iautomech> i don't know what that means
[11:35] <lullabud> you had a windows question, right?
[11:35] <wastrel> lullabud:  synaptics driver?
[11:35] <iautomech> ya... how do i make ubuntu windows compatible
[11:36] <Seveas> iautomech, not
[11:36] <lullabud> iautomech: what do you mean by "windows compatible"?
[11:36] <Seveas> please be a bit more specific
[11:36] <lullabud> wastrel: yeah, synaptics.
[11:36] <iautomech> i want to play windwos based prog
[11:36] <SEJeff> iautomech, linux is not windows, it is linux.
[11:36] <lullabud> wastrel: already tried synclient, qsynclient, reconfiguring xorg.conf...
[11:36] <iautomech> sorry 1 sec
[11:36] <interferon> iautomech, wine can help
[11:36] <Seveas> iautomech, look at cedega (costs as much as windows)
[11:36] <iautomech> yes xwine
[11:36] <wastrel> lullabud:  have you looked at /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics   ?
[11:36] <interferon> what is xwine?
[11:36] <iautomech> but it doesn't show up on the resporitories
[11:37] <iautomech> i want to know how to get it there
[11:37] <interferon> iautomech, because it doesn't exist?
[11:37] <iautomech> but xwine does exist
[11:37] <akaihola> http://winehq.org/site/download-deb
[11:37] <Seveas> iautomech, wine is in the repositories
[11:37] <akaihola> Use that as a repository
[11:37] <iautomech> no it's not
[11:37] <iautomech> i mean it is
[11:37] <Seveas> iautomech, yes it is
[11:37] <akaihola> to get a newer version
[11:37] <Seveas> !info wine
[11:37] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[11:37] <iautomech> but it won't show up
[11:37] <wastrel> lullabud:  there's a section in there :  * How can I configure tap-to-click behavior?
[11:37] <Seveas> !tell iautomech abotu wine
[11:37] <mustard5> iautomech, you might need to enable extra repositories
[11:38] <iautomech> yes that's what i've been trying to ask
[11:38] <lullabud> wastrel: is that the same as this?  http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/index.html#FAQ
[11:38] <iautomech> how do i enable extra repositories
[11:38] <Seveas> !tell iautomech about repos
[11:38] <Seveas> iautomech, ubotu gave you a private message
[11:38] <mustard5> iautomech, ubotu has sent you the answer now :)
[11:38] <wastrel> lullabud:  yeah ...
[11:38] <lullabud> wastrel: yeah... that's not helping. =/
[11:39] <mustard5> iautomech, follow the guides..come back if you have any problems with the instructions
[11:39] <wastrel> kk.  dunno then gl :] 
[11:39] <omiel88> pl?
[11:39] <iautomech> ok thanks
[11:39] <lullabud> wastrel: i got it to work by changing my input to /dev/input/event3, but when i rebooted it went back to teh sukc.
[11:39] <Morg> When I go to System > Administration > Printing, it says it could not contact CUPS server.
[11:39] <lullabud> wastrel: thanks anyways
[11:39] <Morg> But I have cupsd started
[11:40] <Jave27> Hey all - trying to dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper (amd64), and getting the following error:  "A copy of glibc was found in an unexpected directory"
[11:40] <Jave27> It is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation;
[11:40] <Jave27> please remove that copy of the C library and try again.
[11:41] <Seveas> Jave27, please file a bug
[11:41] <Jave27> Seveas: k
[11:41] <omiel88> kto z polska
[11:41] <omiel88> ?
[11:41] <iBalo> !!pl
[11:41] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iBalo
[11:41] <pudland> hi all, how can i find out what version fglrx driver is installed
[11:41] <iBalo> !pl
[11:41] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:42] <omiel88> iBalo:_ pomozesz mi?
[11:42] <iautomech> ok, now which one do i want
[11:42] <bretzel> Hi there -- How to get MP3 audio files played system0wide ( not possible for me since breezy) I am now in beta4 6.04
[11:42] <reiki> is it possible to UNDO this?: sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::Simple'
[11:42] <mustard5> omiel88, english only here   #ubuntu-pl
[11:42] <iautomech> breezy badger?
[11:42] <iautomech> ect
[11:43] <Klick> Hey all, some how my grub is messed up and i have to manualy type in the commands i want in order to boot my kernel, i just tried to do a grub-install /dev/sda and it said does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
[11:43] <mustard5> iautomech, you can enable them through synaptic by following the first link
[11:44] <Morg> Can anyone help me get my printer set up? If I go to System > Administration > Printing, it says "The CUPS server could not be contacted." But when I do ps -e | grep cups, cupsd is running.
[11:44] <mustard5> iautomech, the sources.list for each is shown as a reference if you know how to do it manually
[11:44] <iautomech> which one contains xwine... that's all i need
[11:45] <mustard5> iautomech, you need to enable them and then update your package lists
[11:45] <iautomech> enable which one is what i'm asking
[11:45] <pudland> how can i find out what version fglrx driver is installed
[11:45] <StyXman> hi all. I interrupted a nasty aptitude command that tried to remove lots of packeges with C-c several times, and now trying to use aptitude I get this: W: Warning: could not lock the cache file.  Opening in read-only mode
[11:45] <iautomech> there is like 20 of them
[11:45] <mustard5> iautomech, well you might as well enable both
[11:45] <iautomech> mustard, there is alot more than both
[11:45] <mustard5> iautomech, I have  feeling you are not reading the instructions on the first link
[11:45] <majd> hey, anyone know anything about an editor called Scribe?
[11:45] <majd> i can't find anything about it anywhere on the internet
[11:46] <majd> i read something about it yesterday, can't find the article
[11:46] <StyXman> Morg: a) do you have loopback? b) do you have a firewall?
[11:46] <nickrud> StyXman, if you're sure you aren't using any other package manager, try removing /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:46] <burnboy> can anyone experienced with locales look into this forum post? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133895
[11:46] <iBalo> majd: could it be scribus, which is a layout application?
[11:47] <StyXman> nickrud: ah, that one...
[11:47] <mustard5> iautomech, show me the link of what you are looking at...as I'm not really sure what you are doing
[11:47] <iautomech> /wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-00df54595fcda5c4cb0d1f21ea59db1dbc86bfc8
[11:47] <StyXman> nickrud: well, no, still the same, even when the file was removed
[11:48] <majd> iBalo, nope, not that one
[11:48] <Morg> StyXman: As in 127.0.0.1? Why is a firewall even relevant? This is through the parallel port.
[11:48] <iBalo> majd: then it's scite, maybe?
[11:48] <StyXman> dientespodridos: nice nick (???)
[11:48] <jasper_> i am having trouble with broadcom setup, i've tried everything
[11:48] <iautomech> i'm trying to get xwine by the way
[11:48] <dientespodridos> StarKruz1, it's my current condition O:-)
[11:48] <mustard5> iautomech, you don't know whether you are breezy or hoary?
[11:48] <iautomech> just incase you wanted to know
[11:48] <interferon> ok, i just formatted my gentoo hard drive and booted with the ubuntu livecd.  after it boots, instead of showing me the gdm login, i get a screen with my _old wallpaper_ tiled four times across the screen.  how in the world is that possible?  i'm running off the cd (!).
[11:48] <iautomech> no
[11:48] <iautomech> i think i'm breezy
[11:49] <IdleOne> majd:  try this link http://email.about.com/cs/winclientreviews/gr/scribe.htm
[11:49] <Morg> Maybe this has something to do with it... I [23/Feb/2006:14:46:43 -0800]  Full reload is required.
[11:49] <sinaduel> I need to know how to save a .txt file in the console, whenever I type anything it inserts it on the file
[11:49] <dientespodridos> StyXman, it's my current condition O:-)
[11:49] <iautomech> how do i change?
[11:49] <StyXman> Morg: the app could be trying to access the cups server through tcp/ip, and you have the port blocked or something
[11:49] <iautomech> i mean, how do i check?
[11:49] <Morg> StyXman: Not through loopback.
[11:49] <IdleOne> iautomech: in terminal type lsb_release -a
[11:49] <jasper_> can anyone help me with wireless?
[11:50] <Morg> StyXman: I don't have a problem with other services.
[11:50] <gsuveg> jasper_: ask honey
[11:50] <majd> IdleOne, nope, it's an IDE, that's an email client
[11:50] <suspended> anyone recommend a good dc++ client for gnome?
[11:50] <iautomech> it's breezy just like i though
[11:50] <iautomech> *thought
[11:50] <IdleOne> majd:  sorry I tried
[11:50] <majd> thanks though
[11:50] <pschulz01_> Where would I find gpg-agent?
[11:51] <iautomech> so, i should just click all the repositories pertaining to breezy?
[11:51] <mustard5> iautomech, k..well you are wanting to enable the universe repository in particular, but you might as well enable universe and multiverse
[11:51] <mustard5> iautomech, what others do you have listed?
[11:51] <IdleOne> majd:  maybe you meant TK scribe   http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Editors/Tcl_Tk/
[11:51] <mustard5> iautomech, have you got ones that are not related to breezy?
[11:51] <amonkey> what would the best program/livecd be for recovering files off of a borked ext3 (now ext2) filesystem? ext2retrive looks promising, but i can't get it to compile.
[11:52] <mustard5> iautomech, if you have then you have a problem
[11:52] <iautomech> LoL
[11:52] <iautomech> well i don't see the ones you mentioned
[11:52] <iautomech> cd ubuntu 5.10
[11:52] <mustard5> iautomech, ok...wait
[11:52] <iautomech> ok
[11:52] <mustard5> iautomech, I'll get you to do something...
[11:52] <pudland> can someone say "hi" if they see this?
[11:52] <iautomech> ok
[11:52] <pudland> pls
[11:52] <IdleOne> hi if we see you
[11:52] <interferon> pudland, hi
[11:52] <iautomech> hi pudland
[11:53] <pudland> thanks
[11:53] <jasper_> gsuveg, where is honey?
[11:53] <iautomech> lol
[11:53] <Jave27> who the heck is pudland?
[11:53] <mustard5> iautomech, open this link in browser http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:53] <pudland> hahah
[11:53] <pudland> pudland is I
[11:53] <iBalo> amonkey: Insert is a special 60MB distro for recovery http://www.insert.cd, maybe that helps
[11:53] <mustard5> iautomech, do this in terminal  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:53] <gsuveg> jasper_: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html < here
[11:53] <pudland> how many have nvidia cards?
[11:53] <iautomech> took me to microsoft.com ?
[11:54] <pudland> how many have ati cards?
[11:54] <mustard5> iautomech, paste the contents in the web page you opened up above..hit send...and then show me the new URL it creates
[11:54] <iautomech> it went the second time
[11:54] <iautomech> i must have done something wrong the first time
[11:54] <mustard5> iautomech, I would think so :)
[11:55] <iautomech> so... what do you want me to do here now?
[11:55] <mustard5> iautomech, read my lines above please
[11:56] <Draconicus> I need to boot the Live CD in such a way that it does not utilize my system's swap file. How can I do this?
[11:56] <iautomech>  /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[11:56] <Draconicus> The Breezy 5.10 Live CD, that is.
[11:56] <iautomech> that's what came up
[11:56] <mustard5> iautomech, sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:56] <zugot> how do i blacklist a kernel module?  i never want it to load
[11:57] <iautomech> paste here everything that came up?
[11:57] <mustard5> iautomech, paste the copy and paste the output in the web page you opened up above..hit send...and then show me the new URL it creates
[11:57] <IdleOne> no!
[11:57] <Draconicus> iautomech: You need to type "sudo" - This is a kind of fake root that ensures security in your system while allowing you, the user, to take root actions.
[11:57] <mustard5> Draconicus, yeah .. my fault on that one...I skipped the sudo in the instructions I gave him :)
[11:58] <madewokherd> is there a way I can get c++ man pages?
[11:58] <insites> how do you add a kernel module parameter in ubunbtu?
[11:58] <Mabus06> pudland: I use an ati card, myself
[11:58] <nickrud> zugot, add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d/
[11:58] <iautomech> /paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9222
[11:58] <iautomech> that's the site
[11:58] <IdleOne> madewokherd:  man c++
[11:58] <madewokherd> I mean for the library
[11:58] <mustard5> iautomech, do you think you can include the http:// part when you paste?
[11:58] <madewokherd> like, say, <fstream>
[11:58] <mustard5> iautomech, you are making life hard for me :)
[11:58] <pudland> mabus06, what your fps?
[11:59] <mustard5> iautomech, otherwise I have to manually add it afterwards
[11:59] <iautomech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9222
[11:59] <mustard5> iautomech, thanks
[11:59] <madewokherd> or even any kind of offline documentation
[11:59] <aaronshaf> What's the best VN server/client for Ubuntu?
[11:59] <iautomech> np lol
[11:59] <NOT_rynofly> wow xubunto is way better than gnome or kde
[11:59] <IdleOne> madewokherd:  have you googled it?