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samoura __ /home/samoura there is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg0.run and how do i excute this?12:05
SkrotFFSsamoura: cd /home/samoura;chmod a+x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg0.run;./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg0.run but why do you want to do that?12:06
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samourahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:07
MronoI can play em in mplayer but that is simple12:07
samourai am following after this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368 to install driver nvidia12:07
hDp`NeeD MerC FR12:07
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os2macdoes anyone use Firefox on Kubuntu?12:15
MronoI do12:16
SkrotFFSSo do I12:16
Mrono!firefox12:16
SkrotFFSFor whatever pages konqueror can't handle at least12:16
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Mrono!tell os2mac about firefox12:17
Hobbseeos2mac: i do as well, what did you want to know?12:17
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os2macI am having a problem with it... when ever I go to certian websites (cnn.com for example) the browser just shuts down....12:17
JasonF!tell me about firefox12:17
os2macI can fix this by disabling javascript in the options but that limits functionality....12:18
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os2macanyone got any ideas how to correct?12:18
Hobbseeos2mac: which version of firefox?12:18
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os2maccurrent one...12:20
os2mac1.5 with no updates12:22
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os2macHobbsee?12:24
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Hobbseeos2mac: hmmm - not reproducing it here, dapper with the firefox from the mozilla site12:25
samourahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:25
samouractl-alt-f1 (so as to get to the command line, not a windowed terminal, but out of the graphical interface GUI)12:25
samoura12:25
samoura login with your username and password (if required)12:25
samoura12:25
samoura sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (or "kdm stop" if you use KDE)12:25
samoura12:25
samoura cd directory where you have the nvidia installer12:25
samourawhat with cd }12:26
m_1unaI cannot open anything12:26
m_1unaneither the Terminal12:26
os2macHobbsee... I am on breezy.12:26
Hobbseeos2mac: true, but you'd be using the same version of firefox then.  i'm not sure why you'd have taht problem12:26
Hobbseesamoura: please see !enter, and where did you download the nvidia installer to?  your home directory?12:27
samourayess12:27
__mikem!enter whats that12:27
ubotu__mikem: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:27
os2macmaybe I need to reinstall12:28
__mikem!enter12:28
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ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:28
samouracd directory where you have the nvidia installer i don't understand this12:28
Hobbseesamoura: did you download a nvidia installer?12:28
os2macubotu:!firefox.1512:28
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, os2mac12:28
__mikem!flood12:28
ubotusomebody said flood was for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.12:28
os2macubotu:!firefox1.512:28
ubotuos2mac: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:28
samourai downloaded12:28
Hobbsee!+msgthebot12:28
__mikem!troll12:28
ubotuPlease message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage12:28
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, __mikem12:28
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samourayess i downloaded12:28
os2mac!firefox1.512:28
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion12:28
samouraSend a message via AIM to tseliot12:28
samouraDefault   HOWTO: Latest NVIDIA drivers12:29
samouraIf you want to install Nvidia driver with the nvidia installer (I've tried v.7667) and you use a kernel from Ubuntu Hoary or you compiled it from Hoary sources (or kernel.org sources), then just try this HOWTO.12:29
samoura If you have a kernel from Ubuntu Breezy then try this HOWTO:12:29
samoura http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 OR just look at point 2 of the problems section of THIS guide.12:29
samoura12:29
Hobbseesamoura: where did you download it to?12:29
__mikem!bot abuse12:29
ubotusomebody said bot abuse was a bannable offense12:29
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samourato home&samoura12:29
Hobbseewell...that saves me having to do it lol...12:29
__mikem!ban12:29
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, __mikem12:29
Hobbseeok, so just cd - cd means change directory12:29
__mikemsorry, its fun to abuse ubotu though12:29
Hobbseeand samoura: dont paste, otherwise i will kick and/or ban you12:29
samouraokei sorry12:30
Hobbsee__mikem: it's also fun to kick/ban you, yes :P12:30
__mikemok, ok, sorry12:30
Hobbsee:P12:30
Mronohmmmmmm12:30
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m_1unaciao12:31
samoura <Hobbsee> cd means change diroctory i don't understand what change diroctory? please tell me i am new in linux12:31
Mronohmmm12:31
Hobbseesamoura: cd to the directory you downloaded means "if you downloaded it to the Desktop, then you type "cd Desktop" into a console, then do the next step from there12:31
Hobbsee!cli12:31
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org12:31
Mronovideo is annoying to get working correctly12:31
sorin4usalve12:31
__mikemcd is also a windows shell command12:32
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sorin4ueste cineva din romania?12:32
Phazeman__mikem: actually it is not :)12:33
Phazemanit's a DOS shell command :)12:33
__mikemThey are the same d*mn thing12:33
Phazeman_also_ ;-)12:33
sorin4udo you understand my language?12:33
Phazeman__mikem: well.. not exactly12:33
Phazeman:-)12:33
Chousukeaahh... DOS.12:34
Phazemanbut nevermind12:34
sorin4uits easy12:34
PhazemanChousuke: lol12:34
__mikemAAAHHH OSX12:34
__mikemlol jk12:34
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Chousukeinstalling kdevelop with fink12:34
Chousukewhee.12:34
ChousukeI wonder if it'll be compiling in the morning still.12:35
__mikemwhat are you doing in the ubuntu chanel if you are using OSX12:35
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__mikemI am on ubuntu12:35
__mikemright now12:35
HobbseeChousuke: you usually run kubuntu dont you?12:35
PhazemanHobbsee: just apt-get update/upgrade and all back online :)12:35
ChousukeHobbsee: Not actually.12:35
ChousukeI'm here because I'm interested in Ubuntu and kubuntu12:35
Hobbsee__mikem: that means i could ask you the same question...12:35
Phazeman__mikem: why does it matter which distro he runs ?12:35
ChousukeI was a user of Ubuntu before my old machine broke and I bought a powerbook.12:36
Phazemani run kubuntu and i'm on #mandriva too12:36
HobbseeChousuke: for some weird reason i thought you were already running it12:36
Hobbseefun12:36
__mikemPhazeman it doesn't, why?12:36
os2machobbsee: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/56936312:36
HobbseePhazeman: yay :)12:36
Phazeman< __mikem> what are you doing in the ubuntu chanel if you are using OSX12:36
PhazemanHobbsee: i was an op there once12:36
Phazemanbefore the general reconstruction of freenode12:36
__mikemOSX is for MAC isn't it12:36
Phazeman__mikem: yah12:36
Hobbseeos2mac: probably file a bug for it, not sure12:37
PhazemanHobbsee: look at my hostmask :)12:37
__mikemAnd its based on FreeBSD, not Linux12:37
Hobbseedo what it says to get a backtrace12:37
Phazeman__mikem: yep12:37
ChousukeOS X is really cool. it has some things I want to see in Linux.12:37
Hobbseeheh nice12:37
ChousukeMost of all quicksilver. :P12:37
Chousuke;(12:37
__mikemmy point exactly12:37
ChousukeKatapult just doesn't cut it.12:37
Hobbseewhat's quicksilver again?12:37
PhazemanChousuke: the only thing i miss from OS X or W$ is photoshop12:37
__mikemHobbsee Mercury12:37
ChousukeHobbsee: swiss army knife of the software world.12:38
Chousukeand duct tape12:38
Hobbseehehe yeah, but it's a launcher?12:38
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__mikemgoogle is your friend12:38
Chousukethat's its most basic functionality. :)12:38
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Mronoyou know why major software companies don't develop for linux12:38
Chousukeyou can use QS in any way the plugins and your imagination allow you to.12:39
Phazemanmonopoly and $12:39
Mronosupport12:39
__mikemBecause they are too proud to admit that linux is better12:39
Mronothink of how hard it would be to support it12:39
PhazemanMrono: not actually.. because they don't care about operation system that doesn't have the corporate ws12:39
Mronoall those different distrobutions12:39
__mikemI can get free linux tech support, all I have to do is call my brother12:39
Hobbseeabout as hard to support as all the repositories are12:39
Mronoyou have your theory and I have mine12:39
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Phazeman__mikem: thats why IRC is always here for me12:40
Mrono:)12:40
__mikemYeh that to12:40
Mronoi've gotten so much help in ihere12:40
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Mronoi'd be back at square one if I wasn't in ihere12:40
__mikemSame here, I usually just like to hang out here and watch peoples suggestions on fixing problems, its a great way to learn12:40
PhazemanMrono: fortunately for me, the first linux experience for me under the watch of an older debian'ist that helped me alot12:41
Phazemanthen i came to #mandriva (#mandrake at past)12:41
Mronothis is my first linux experience12:41
Phazemanahh12:41
Mronoi'm acually sticking to it12:41
__mikemMy brother and father are red hat diehards12:41
__mikemthey both think fedora is the best12:41
MronoI havent booted into windows for a few days12:41
ChousukeHobbsee: Today I discovered a rather leet  thing about QS. You can use it from the command line. ;P12:42
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__mikemyeh right, Fedora sucks. Its nothing more than the remains a dev group that went to the dark side12:42
Hobbseeooh fun!12:42
Phazeman__mikem: remember that almost the only distro that suporrted by oracle is fedora12:42
Chousukethis means I can do find ./ whatever  and pipe the output to QS, and do whatever atrocities I want with the files.12:42
Phazemanso what is QS ? some one enlight me ?12:42
Chousukethough you can do that with pipes and command line utilities.12:42
Chousukebut the trick is, QS does the same for GUI apps :)12:43
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Phazemanpeople.. show off your desktops... :-)12:43
Phazemansome screenshots would be nice to see12:44
Phazeman:)12:44
__mikemI am currently in gnome, if you want me to launch kde, I can though12:44
__mikemI have both installed on my laptop12:44
Phazeman__mikem: it doesn't matter, i don't like gnome though12:44
Phazemangnome is "the old way" for me...12:44
Phazemanjust never liked it..12:44
Phazemanfluxbox or kde when i have the resource for it12:45
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__mikemI like kde better also, but when I opened the lid of my laptop this morning, gnome was running, and I didn't feel like logging out and back in12:45
Phazeman__mikem: it's only a personal choice thingy... i really don't care what people use... but it has to be a good looking thingy :)12:46
Phazeman__mikem: show off the desktop :)12:46
__mikemThen I would imagine that you hate xfce for all thats holly12:46
Phazeman__mikem: i don't hate anything12:46
__mikemexcuse me, "don't like" xfce for all that is holly12:46
Phazemani don't thing that a sluggish DM with the look of gnome can work better then a normaly configured fluxbox12:47
Phazemanxfce is slow and resources eating thing12:47
Phazemandid you try e17 ?12:47
__mikeme17?12:47
__mikem!e1712:47
Phazeman:-)12:47
Phazemanyou don' tknow what is it ??? really ???12:48
__mikemYes, I am a noobe12:48
Phazemanhttp://www.enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/DR17/12:48
Phazemanit's the general look so you'll have the idea what is it12:48
Phazemanit's a beta but a VERY solid one12:49
Phazemanlooks very good i think12:49
__mikemWow, thats nice12:49
Phazemanand runs very fast12:49
__mikemit almost looks better than kde12:49
Phazemanunfortunately i can't see an apt package for it in my repositories12:49
Phazemanit looks better12:49
Phazemanand runs faster12:49
PhazemanIMHO off course12:49
ChousukePeople: try ion3. ;)12:50
__mikemwhen theres a stable release, Ill definitely try it12:50
__mikemI dont use beta software though12:50
__mikem!ion312:50
uboturumour has it, ion3 is a window manager12:50
__mikemChousuke how about a url12:50
Chousukeion3 doesn't have much fluff12:51
Chousukebut it's interesting.12:51
Phazeman__mikem: i think it will take time... but e17 is developed for a long time now.. i think it's like wine... no release :)12:51
Mronohmm12:51
PhazemanChousuke: did you see the e17 thingy ?12:51
MronoI think I saw that package12:51
Phazemani've tried it on my mandy machine some time ago12:51
Chousukehttp://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/12:51
PhazemanMrono: ?12:51
__mikemPhazeman I still can't believe you said xfce runs slow12:51
Mronoenlightenment12:51
Phazeman__mikem: it's VERY sluggish on my machine... fluxbox is _much_ faster12:52
Mronoyeah it's installed12:52
PhazemanMrono: which repository ?12:52
Mronocan't tell12:52
__mikem!fluxbox12:52
ubotuit has been said that fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net12:52
Phazemanbetter... what is the name of the package ? may be a loog for a wrong thingy12:52
MronoThe Enlightenment Window Manager12:53
Phazeman__mikem: gimme a sec.. i'll try to locate some screenshot of mine12:53
PhazemanMrono: it's e1612:53
Mronopackage enlightenment12:53
Phazemanthe stable12:53
Mronoah12:53
MronoI see12:53
Mronohow is ito12:53
Mronoit*12:53
PhazemanMrono: never tried it...12:53
Phazemani've tried only e17 and it was about a year ago12:54
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__mikemI saw the screen shots on their website12:54
Mronoman, for the life of me I just can not get video playing12:54
__mikemhold on12:54
__mikembrb12:54
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__mikemok back12:57
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__mikemI switched over to kde12:57
Mronohow did you do that12:57
__mikemI have a duel instalation of kde and gnome12:58
__mikemI also have xfce on here12:58
Mronodo you have to reboot to change windows systems12:58
__mikemno, gdm, or kdm allows you to choose the session that loads, all you have to do is log out, sellect a session type, and log back in12:59
Mronoah12:59
Mronohmm12:59
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__mikemtheres really no point to a set up like this, unless your like me and can't decide between desktop environments01:00
Mronolol01:00
Mronotrue01:00
calliehmmmmm any ideas what i can do with this old computer i found?01:01
calliei need a project or something01:02
__mikemis it a complete computer01:02
callieit will be in a couple of days01:02
calliejust waiting for some SDRAM to arrive01:02
__mikemthen, install ubuntu/kubuntu on it01:02
Mronomake a streaming media server01:02
__mikemand/or do that01:02
callie__mikem, i'm already runniong kubuntu on this box01:03
__mikemo ok01:03
calliehence me being in #kubuntu01:03
__mikemI was in gnome a few secconds ago, and I have beeen hanging out in kubuntu all day01:04
Mronowho can play videos01:04
__mikemI can01:04
Mronowhat do you use01:04
__mikemkaffine01:04
Mronowith what engine01:04
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__mikemyou need to install some packages, I forgot which ones though, it was a while since I did it01:05
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calliejust download the whole repository01:05
blackflaghello all01:05
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robotgeekhey blackflag01:06
blackflagI have a modem question01:06
calliehey blackflag01:06
robotgeekoops, i dunno anything about modems, sorry01:06
blackflagI have a telphone system installed01:06
__mikem!modems01:06
ubotu__mikem: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:06
blackflagits connected via USB01:06
blackflagand I want to use Hylafax01:06
blackflagbut I dont know which port the modem is connected to01:07
__mikemport 8001:07
blackflagis there a command to find this out?01:07
callieor do you mean usb port?01:07
callielsusb will do that01:07
blackflagthere is a USB hub between01:07
Mronoi think I know why my fglrx doesn't work01:07
__mikemdo tell01:08
Mronowhy i'm not getting my ati card working with 3d01:08
blackflagand in / /dev I have about 15 USB devices01:08
MronoI have kernal 2.6.1001:08
Mrono68601:08
blackflagso how can I find the modem?01:08
Mronothe drivers are for kernal 2.6.1201:08
Mrono68601:08
Mronohow do IO upgrade01:08
MronoI*01:08
callieblackflag, lsusb like i said01:09
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blackflagI tried lsusb01:09
blackflagthere is the modem01:09
blackflagbut in dev tehere are ttyUSb1....1501:09
blackflagso which is it?01:09
blackflaglsusb dont tell it to me01:10
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blackflagso which ttyUSB is it?01:10
calliedude01:11
calliehang on01:11
N6pfkHello.  Kubuntu is the first live distro I have tried that recognizes my built in wifi chip as eth1 but I can't seem to enable the transmitter?01:12
callieim assuming that you tried ttyusb1 blackflag ?01:12
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blackflagyes01:12
callieand the other 14?01:12
__mikemDoes anyone know how to run rhapsody on linux01:12
blackflagis it the only way to try step by step01:12
blackflagthere is no command which is tell it to me?01:12
ryanakcahow do you get the hot keys at the top of the keyboard (like the play, web, back, refresh, etc) to work? (in kde)....... I'm told sticky keys is what I want, but I cant seem to find out how that would be it... in case you're wondering what I mean by hotkeys, look at the grey keys at the top of the keyboard.... surrounded by blue plastic: http://image.devpia.com/Devpia/MSProduct/UploadImage/natural_multimedia.gif01:12
calliei dont know blackflag01:12
ryanakcathe keys get recognised by Gnome, but KDE ignores them...01:13
N6pfkThe module is ipw2200.01:13
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__mikemwhat is black flag01:13
calliea band01:13
blackflagyes, also01:13
N6pfkI am using a compaq v2000 laptop with a Turion 64 processer.01:15
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ryanakcahow do you get the hot keys at the top of the keyboard (like the play, web, back, refresh, etc) to work? (in kde)....... I'm told sticky keys is what I want, but I cant seem to find out how that would be it... in case you're wondering what I mean by hotkeys, look at the grey keys at the top of the keyboard.... surrounded by blue plastic: http://image.devpia.com/Devpia/MSProduct/UploadImage/natural_multimedia.gif       They are also what make01:16
__mikemyou already said this01:18
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MronoI th ought that looked familier01:20
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man2dhi all01:26
man2di have a problem with running counter-strike 1.6 with wine, can smb help?01:27
blackflagtransgaming.com01:27
blackflagshow for winex01:27
man2di used manual on linux-gamers.net01:27
man2dgame loaded, but very buggy01:28
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calliesounds like wine to me01:33
callienever really had much success with it really01:34
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tristanmikeHi, I'm having a problem with Kweather, as in it doesn't seem to work, can someone please give me a hand?01:35
callietristanmike, if you want use superkaramba and Liquid weather01:35
calliecheck it out01:35
tristanmikecallie, I was wondering about superkaramba, what is it exactly?01:36
callie!superkaramba01:36
ubotuSuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org01:36
tristanmikeI noticed there is karamba and superkaramba, what are the differences?01:36
callie!karamba01:36
ubotucallie: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:36
ryanakcaanybody know how to make the keys at the top of an internet keyboard work in kde? (like hotkeys)01:36
calliei think its just an older version of superkaramba tristanmike01:37
tristanmikecallie, that's what I figured, but I'm still new to all of this, is superkaramba hard to configure, or does it take over my desktop, lol?01:37
MronoI don't like it01:37
calliei love it01:38
Mronoit doesn't work very well01:38
Mronoor at all really01:38
callieworks fine here01:38
tristanmikewhat would you suggest Mrono?01:38
callieyou probably dont have the right libraries Mrono01:38
MronoI don't have anything to suggest for widgets01:38
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tristanmikeWhen I go to configure the Weather Report applet, it just says "Empty Page" and displays nothing, and where the icon for the weather is suppose to be, it's just blank...any ideas?01:40
callieyou probably need to direct to a weather server or something01:40
Mronoit errored when I tried to install liquid weather01:41
Mrononow I can't uninstall it to try again01:41
calliewhat was the error Mrono ?01:41
Mronoi don't remember01:41
Mronoit was earlier today01:41
tristanmikecallie, there is no configure screen, that's the problem01:41
callietristanmike, i've never used Kweather so i dont know, try looking on some forums01:42
tristanmikeyeah, it seems to work for everyone else, lol01:42
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CellarDoorhello kubuntu'ers01:42
callieheya CellarDoor01:42
CellarDoorhi callie01:43
tristanmikecallie, so i just installed superkaramba, now what...lol, care to give me a quick tutorial?01:43
CellarDoorAnyone in the mood for some Gates bashing humor ?01:43
CellarDoorI found some quotes ;)01:43
tristanmikeI'm _always_ in the mood for Gates bashing, lol01:43
Mronosure01:43
CellarDoorhehe01:44
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CellarDoor"There are people who don't like capitalism, and people who don't like PCs.  But there's no-one who likes the PC who doesn't like Microsoft" - Bill Gates, Free Market and the LA Times01:44
tristanmikelol01:44
CellarDoor"I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time. As the successor to DOS, which has over 10,000,000 systems in use, it creates incredible opportunities for01:45
CellarDooreveryone involved with PCs." - Bill Gates, from "OS/2 Programmer's Guide" (forward by Bill Gates)01:45
Mronoheh01:45
CellarDoor:P01:45
Mronohe once said that he would never see anyone using more the 32kb of memory01:45
CellarDoor"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates circa 198101:46
Mronothat's what it was01:46
CellarDooryeah01:46
CellarDoor"If you can't make it good, at least make it look good." - Bill Gates on the solid code base of Win9X01:46
Tm_T=)01:47
CellarDoor"Anybody who thinks a little 9,000-line program that's distributed free and can be cloned by anyone is going to affect anything we do at Microsoft has his head screwed on wrong." - Bill Gates to George Gilder responding to Java (shortly before licensing Java and dumping Blackbird).01:47
calliehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:4mbramvax.jpg this is what 4MB of ram used to look like01:47
CellarDoorwow01:48
CellarDoorlol01:48
Mronowoah01:48
ryanakcaanybody know how to make the keys at the top of an internet keyboard work in kde? (like hotkeys)01:48
CellarDoorhmm ryanakca dunno, I've got those, but I never used them even when I had Windows :P01:48
Mronoah crud01:49
ryanakcaholy... that's huge... 4mb.... lol01:49
Mronoscrewed up my xine engine01:49
Mronoand none of the others worked01:49
Mrono!wifi01:49
ubotuwell, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto01:49
CellarDoor"There won't be anything we won't say to people to try and convince them that our way is the way to go." - Bill Gates on Microsoft marketing01:49
callieimagine a gig of that stuff!01:49
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CellarDoorcallie: dont scare me01:50
callielol01:50
callieimagine 3 gig of that stuff!01:51
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CellarDoorImagine how may ENIAC type computers you'd need to play Quake4 ?01:51
callielmao01:51
CellarDoor:P01:51
callieor quake 1 even01:51
adubwhen i open network settings for my network in kde i cant click administrator mode because the screen is too large01:51
aduband when i go to resize it wont let me?????01:51
calliethats a known bug i think adub01:52
CellarDoorhmm01:52
adubcallie is there a work around01:52
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callieannoyingly i dont know01:52
Mronogrrrrr01:52
adubKDE: 3.4.3 is my version01:52
Mronoxine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.01:52
Mronohey adub01:53
robotgeek_awayadub: alt + drag01:53
robotgeek_awaygotta go, later01:53
calliec ya robotgeek_away01:53
adubthanks01:54
Mronois it like this http://www.mrono.net/main/lazy-index.php?file=blogcontent/kde343bugsyssettings.png01:54
CellarDoordo I need to update my sources to upgrade from kde350 to 351.... and uh, is it worth it ? Or shall I just wait till the next kubuntu release ?01:54
adubheh i cant win for losing01:54
adubnow it wont let me into administrator mode??01:55
Mronowhy01:55
adubwell it seems to authenticate the password but then everything is grey and at the top it still says changes in this section require root access01:55
adub:)01:55
CellarDoorI'm gonna get a box full of kubuntu ship it disks next release... because I can :)01:55
CellarDoorooh does anyone know about the problem with BenQ dvd burners ?01:56
CellarDoorI have a couple of friends who cant install kubuntu via their BenQ drives (one of them used my pioneer without problem, but kubuntu still wouldnt recognise his BenQ afterwards) ??01:57
adubwell network settings wont let me do anything within kde01:58
adublol anyhow01:58
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CellarDoorno problem with network settings here... but I'm using kde 3.5.001:58
blackflagokay , again, when I do lsusb then it tells me Bus 001 device 005 so what is the device in /dev ?01:59
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MrBallZhi01:59
MrBallZis kubuntu a good replacement for Sarge ?02:00
callieblackflag, you could have tried tty1-15 by now 10 times over02:00
blackflagyes, and tis not a good solution to do it so02:01
calliey not?02:01
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blackflagwe are talking about linux and linux is comfoprtabel02:01
CellarDoorMrBallZ: you could start a very long debate on such a topic :P02:01
blackflagso I think there must be a command or something else for it02:01
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calliethat im not denying, but no one here seems to know, so i'm merely stating that its the next best solution02:02
Mronohey adub02:02
Mronotry this02:02
CellarDoorInterviewer:  Is studying computer science the best way to prepare to be a programmer? Gates:  No, the best way to prepare is to write programs, and to study02:02
CellarDoorgreat programs that other people have written.  In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating system. - Bill Gates, from "Programmers at Work" by Microsoft Press, interview with Bill02:02
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MrBallZCellarDoor: i know i know, the thing is that sometimes I would like to have some of the newest versions of several progz, and other software ... and I do love the stability and security of Sarge , but I'm thinking on trying kubuntu for my laptop ...02:02
Mronoopen up a run command, type kcontrol &02:02
Mronoanyone here using kubuntu on a toshiba laptop02:03
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CellarDoorMrBallZ: ah yes, I like the bleeding edge too :P02:03
s_v_e_nHallo, any Idea How to use scripting in Knoda, a KDE-SQL-Frontend. "hk_classes-python" ist missing  !    ???02:03
s_v_e_nIs there a *.deb ???02:03
CellarDoor"If you don't know what you need Windows NT for, you don't need it." - Bill Gates02:04
MrBallZCellarDoor: hahahah , the thing is that I would like to have newest KDE , kphoto, better wifi suppport , newest kernels faster ...02:05
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CellarDoorMrBallZ: yeah02:05
CellarDoorwhats kphoto like, I dont think I've tried that ?02:06
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CellarDoor"Imagine the disincentive to software development if after months of work another company could come along and copy your work and market it under it's own name...without legal restraints to such copying, companies like Apple could not afford to advance the state of the art." - Bill Gates, on Microsoft's GUI innovations (unconfirmed quote)02:07
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man2d!dapper02:10
CellarDooroh its part of koffice ?02:10
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CellarDoorI havent played with koffice in a while :$02:11
ryanakcaI found my keyboard... I just don't know what "kind" of keyboard it is for kcontrol... you guys have any clue: http://can-tech.com.tw/CAN-3000.htm  ?02:11
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MrBallZCellarDoor: Kphoto is very good for digicams02:14
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CellarDoorMrBallZ: ah rite... I'm installing Koffice now02:14
MrBallZi just said kphoto ... its not part of koffice ...02:15
CellarDooroh02:15
CellarDoordang02:15
MrBallZI  think ill go back to #debian ...02:15
MrBallZhahahaha02:15
MrBallZbye02:15
CellarDoorI google'd and saw mention of it02:15
CellarDoorpfft02:15
CellarDoorsnobby debian users02:15
brendan_lol02:16
CellarDoorkphoto isn't on the repos02:16
tristanmikecan someone help with a compiling problem?02:16
brendan_sure, what's up?02:16
tristanmikeI'm trying to compile Superkaramba and I'm getting an odd error02:17
CellarDoorooh02:17
tristanmikechecking for KDE... configure: error:02:17
tristanmikein the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.02:17
tristanmikeSo, check this please and use another prefix!02:17
brendan_try ./configure --prefix=/usr02:17
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brendan_that's the default for kubuntu02:17
MronoI had issues with superkamba configuring it and making it as well02:17
tristanmikeMrono, lol02:18
tristanmikebrendan_, no, that didn't work, same error02:18
brendan_isn't there a .deb? I feel like it's part of the standard install02:18
tristanmikeI don't know, the one in the repos is .3602:18
calliei have .37 in my repo02:19
brendan_ok, tristanmike, you might need the kde-devel package02:20
brendan_if you don't have it installed, that is02:20
tristanmikeI'll try02:21
brendan_I haven't actually compiled superkaramba on kubuntu, though I don't remember having a whole lot of problems on sid a few months ago02:21
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tristanmikeIf things can go wrong they usually do for me02:22
CellarDoordoes kphoto even exist ?02:22
CellarDoorI've never heard of it02:22
CellarDoorcan't seem to find anything on it02:22
brendan_hmmm, yeah, I've got superkaramba .38 installed under 3.5.102:22
CellarDoorI thought superkaramba was part of kde02:23
CellarDooras of 3.502:23
tristanmikebrendan_, just like to say....BINGO!02:23
Mronohey guys02:23
brendan_kde-devel worked?02:23
tristanmikeyessir, thanx a bunch02:24
Mronowhy would iwconfig of wirelesstools hang02:24
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brendan_no worries02:24
Mronoit just sits there02:24
CellarDoorMrono: no idea :P02:24
brendan_you need it for kde native themes too, so it's good to have anyways02:24
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tristanmikesure, I'm cool02:24
SmrtJustinhow can I make my system clock ETC instead of UTC, so my scripts that require the date command aren't off?02:24
julianhi everybody02:24
CellarDoorhey does anyone have any "new" screenshots of KDE4... got any scoops ?02:25
CellarDoorhi julian02:25
julianwhich is the kubuntu channel in spanish?02:25
CellarDoorThere is a kubuntu channel in spanish ?02:25
julianhow do i list all channels in korversation?02:25
julianthere is02:25
CellarDooruh... /list02:25
Mronowhat is midnight commander02:26
CellarDoorfile management02:26
Mronoah02:26
Mronoi see02:26
CellarDoor:P02:26
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CellarDoornot that I've ever really used it02:27
brendan_julian, try #kubuntu-es02:27
brendan_all of them are listed at http://www.kubuntu.org/support.php02:27
CellarDooraah02:27
CellarDoorfreenode... geek paradise02:28
brendan_never been in there, but the website seems to suggest it exists02:28
brendan_lol, yea02:28
brendan_h02:28
CellarDoorI should be an advertising exec02:28
CellarDoor:P02:28
CellarDoorargh... I've just installed Koffice and its dumped all its stuff in my "office" menu02:29
brendan_oh, lol, I just got my first BSOD running win98 in vmware player on my thinkpad02:29
tristanmikebrendan_, checkinstall failed02:29
CellarDooroooer02:29
CellarDoorhaha02:29
tristanmikedpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`superkaramba') doesn't contain any digits02:29
tristanmikedpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file02:30
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brendan_oh, you were compiling to deb?02:30
tristanmikebrendan_, I guess, I was told to use checkinstall02:30
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CellarDoorexcellent02:30
brendan_well, I mean, when you were compiling superkaramba, did you use:02:31
Mronobrb02:31
Mronorebooting02:31
brendan_./configure --prefix=/usr ; make && sudo make install02:31
brendan_or did you do it the "debian way"?02:31
tristanmikeI did it the way I was told to on the ubuntu irc help02:31
brendan_ah, k02:32
tristanmikebrendan_, apparently I had to change the version from "superkaramba" to "0.37" and it worked02:33
brendan_huh02:33
tristanmikeweird02:33
brendan_ok, well, if it works, I guess it's not worth complaining ;)02:33
tristanmikelol, I don't know if it "works" yet, I don't even know how to use it, I was just told to install it02:34
brendan_lol, oh02:34
brendan_well, superkaramba is fun, but I usually run it for a few days and then decide it's slowing stuff down and turn it off again02:35
brendan_kinda like konfabulator under windows02:35
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holotoneAnyone want to help a computer literate *nix newb get a Proxim Orinoco Gold B card up and running?02:40
holotoneI'm connected via ethernet at the moment, so I am on the computer in question02:40
Mronoback02:41
holotonethe forums don't seem to be much help @ the moment02:41
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brodelis there anyway I can continue a multisession disc with k3b? I'd rather not have to reboot to windows just to use Nero :\02:42
holotoneAny wireless gurus out there tonight?02:42
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Mronoi need one as well02:45
Mronoiwconfig just hangs on my computer02:46
brendan_hmmm02:46
brendan_mine kinda worked out of the box... I'm using centrino wireless (ipw2100)02:46
brendan_although I've set it up on debian/gentoo/etc. before on the same computer02:46
holotonegrrr.02:46
brendan_before ipw2100 was part of the standard kernel package02:47
brendan_but I'm not sure about the Orinoco02:47
Mronogrr02:48
brendan_what point in the install have you been able to get to?02:48
brendan_err, and Mrono, which card are you using?02:49
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Mronoif I remember right it's an atheros02:49
Mronoeither a 2000 or a 400002:49
Mronolet me look02:49
Mronoand you guys wonder why more people don't use linux02:50
Mronooh and btw02:50
Mronomy mp3 don't play again02:50
brendan_lol, well, it could be said that's part of the fun02:50
brendan_though I see where you're coming from02:50
Mronowait02:51
Mrononvm02:51
Mronoa REBOOT fixed em02:51
Mronolol02:51
brendan_the wireless too, or just the mp3?02:51
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Mronomp302:51
Mronowireless never worked02:51
Mronoworkes on slax02:51
brendan_ah, k02:51
Mronoout of box02:51
Mronobut not here02:52
brendan_um, does it detect the card and load the driver when you put it in?02:52
Mronointerenal02:52
brendan_ah02:52
brendan_well, if you do 'lsmod' can you see the driver that corresponds to the card?02:52
CellarDoorI always make sure I buy linux friendly hardware02:54
Mronoath_pci                69148  002:54
MronoI wasn't planning on this being a linux system02:54
Mronoand I didn't buy i02:54
Mronoit*02:54
CellarDoorwell, there you go then ;)02:54
brendan_hmmm02:55
brendan_ok, well, first off, maybe try 'rmmod ath_pci' and then 'modprobe ath_pci'02:55
CellarDoordunno if this will help, but here tis: http://sxs.sourceforge.net/sxs/02:55
Mronoremoving ath_pcu, operation not permitted02:56
CellarDoorerm... prolly wont help02:56
Mrononothing happens when I put in rmmod ath_pci02:56
Mronoer02:57
Mrononothing happens when I put in modprobeath_pci02:57
Mronoyeah02:57
brendan_er, sudo rmmod rmmod ath_pci02:57
brendan_sorry, scratch that02:57
brendan_um, ok, if you say lsmod, are there any other modules listed beside the entry for ath_pci?02:58
brendan_i.e. modules that depend on it02:58
Mronoath_pci                69148  002:58
Mronoath_rate_sample        14344  1 ath_pci02:58
Mronowlan                  120988  3 ath_pci,ath_rate_sample02:58
Mronoath_hal               148432  3 ath_pci,ath_rate_sample02:58
CellarDoorI think I'm getting a headache02:59
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tristanmikeanyone know how I get the OSX style dock?02:59
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brendan_ah02:59
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tristanmikelol02:59
brendan_try kooldock or... there's another one that's escaping me at the moment02:59
CellarDoorApple are officially evil you know02:59
brendan_take a look at kde-apps.org03:00
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CellarDoorprolly on kde-look.org somewhere03:00
brendan_well, that too03:00
tristanmikei like the way the icons bounce03:00
brendan_they're basically the same site03:00
CellarDooreither or03:00
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brendan_um... ok Mrono, basically the ath_pci is your driver, but ath_hal is probably the layer that sits between the hardware and software03:00
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Mronohardware abstraction layer03:01
brendan_yeah03:01
CellarDooryou know hal is an evil name ;)03:01
tristanmikeout of curiosity, that isn't some apple could sue for is it? like say I released my own distro, but with the dock as a standard?03:01
Mronolol03:01
brendan_so you should be able to sudo rmmod ath_pci, afaik03:01
Mronolike this "sudo rmmod ath_pci, afaik"03:02
brendan_er, no, sorry, the afaik was as far as I know03:02
brendan_sudo rmmod ath_pci03:02
brendan_and then:03:02
brendan_sudo modprobe ath_pci03:02
brendan_basically reloading the module03:02
CellarDoortristanmike: they've stolen so much open source software I think it would be laughable for them to go to court over something like that03:02
tristanmikeyeah, but *cough*gates*cough*03:03
CellarDoorApple doesn't share code changes, they "code bomb"03:03
brendan_well, to be fair, I believe Darwin has a BSD based license, which is a lot less restrictive than the GPL03:03
CellarDoorWebCore... Safari...03:03
CellarDoorpopcorn anyone ?03:03
brendan_lol, Safari is mostly konqueror03:04
CellarDoorexactly03:04
brendan_though they did make it a lot more stable in the process03:04
Mronolovely03:04
Mronoroot@weridkid:~# rmmod ath_pci03:04
Mronoand sits there03:04
brendan_which I think went back down the dev chain03:04
Mronoi hit enter03:04
CellarDoortheyre not making it easy for the konqueror folks at all though03:04
Mronoand nothing happens03:04
brendan_like, it doesn't print anything out, or it doesn't finish properly?03:05
Mronothe curser goes a line down and sits03:05
brendan_ah03:05
Mronoplease tell me that's a good 'ah'03:05
brendan_well, ctrl+c, I guess to end it, and then try a lsmod03:06
brendan_sometimes the kernel doesn't really like adding and removing drivers, especially when they've got a web of dependencies like that03:06
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Mronoctrl+c doesn't do anything03:06
brendan_um, the other thing you can try if your driver is in there and running, is just doing a "sudo ifconfig ethX down" where ethX is your wifi card, and then trying iwconfig after that03:07
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dmdmhow do i see what harddrives are installed?03:07
brendan_if you just type mount, it'll give you a listing of all mounted drives03:07
brendan_df -h gives you free disk space (in human readable form)03:07
Kamping_Kaisercat /proc/partitions03:08
brendan_or you can use other things if the drives aren't mounted03:08
dmdmhm03:08
dmdmwell im installed a drive into the system03:08
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dmdmhm03:08
GameCatI am trying to play a dvd and failing - keep getting told I don't have permissions on the media03:08
dmdmmount gives out loads of proc /dev/ etc stuff03:08
brendan_um, Mrono, if it's not letting you close it, it may not work with the driver until you restart03:08
GameCatany ideas what might be wrong?03:08
brendan_unfortunately that's one of the things that can mess with the kernel a bit03:09
MronoethX: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device03:09
brendan_err, well, use eth0 or eth1 or whatever corresponds to your wireless card03:10
Mronook03:10
Mronoi try03:10
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Mronowait03:10
brendan_that'll disable your card03:10
Mronohow do I find out which one is the device03:10
brendan_err....03:10
brendan_iwconfig is crashing for you, isn't it?03:10
brendan_normally you could type "iwconfig" and it'll tell you what devices have wireless extensions available03:10
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Mronoiwconfig does nothing for me03:11
Mronobrb03:11
brendan_k03:11
Mronobooting onto my slax to check something03:11
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juliandoes somebody know the repository for mldonkew?03:13
juliandoes somebody know the repository for mldonkey?03:13
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Joltbrendan, what, in your opinion, is the most user friendly Distro...03:22
Joltuser friendly, meaning... easy for amateurs03:23
bimberi!info kmldonkey03:23
ubotukmldonkey: (KDE GUI for MLDonkey), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 891 kB, Installed size: 3036 kB03:23
dmdmto learn or to use?03:23
Joltboth, if that's possible03:23
bimberijulian: it's in the universe repository03:23
dmdmi think ubuntu03:23
dmdmim a noob03:24
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dmdmand ive got the furthest with it03:24
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brendan_um, jolt, ubuntu and kubuntu are both very good03:24
brendan_mandrake used to be one of the better ones, back when a lot of the newer ones didn't exist03:24
brendan_but it mostly did that by removing functionality03:25
brendan_so yeah, I'd say kubuntu/ubuntu are both very good03:25
brendan_I haven't really used the redhat based distros since about version 6, so I can't really comment on that03:25
Joltbrendan, bipolar suggested modules would be a better option for the Wireless USB Dongle, than Drivers03:25
brendan_I mean, any distro can be made to be easy to use for the end user, but it's a case of how difficult it is to administrate I'm guessing03:25
GameCatcan someone help me play a dvd with xine? I have libdvdcss2 installed, but trying to play a disc gets me a box telling me it's crypted.03:26
Jolttrue03:26
brendan_well, modules are basically the linux equivalent of drivers under windows03:26
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Joltah, k03:26
brendan_i.e. you load the kernel module for the program, and it tells the linux kernel how to talk with it03:26
brendan_um, so anyways, I'd say that kubuntu is pretty easy to use03:27
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brendan_certainly more so than debian standard03:27
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jerwarefellaz03:27
CellarDoorkubuntu is great for n00bs03:27
_adubwhere can i pick which AP i want to associate with03:27
GameCatcan someone help me play a dvd with xine? I have libdvdcss2 installed, but trying to play a disc gets me a box telling me it's crypted and can't be played03:28
brendan_I actually really like gentoo as well, but it's a pain in the a** to get it working properly03:28
jerwarewhat nic cards file do i edit, to manually edit ip addressing info?03:28
CellarDoorI learned more with kubuntu in a week than I did after using Manriva for six months03:28
CellarDoorI like its "simplicity", whilst not hiding the "real linux" from the user03:28
brendan__adub, there are some kde based tools, though in my experience they're a bit inconsistent in how well they work03:29
brendan_jerware, manual ip addressing is handled through ifconfig03:29
jerwaredoh03:29
jerwareok03:29
brendan_you can do it in kde as well though03:29
_adubits showing in networking settings in kde i have no network profiles03:29
brendan_if you look under the control centre and networking03:29
jerwarei thought i can edit a file that ifconfig reads/writes03:29
_adubis there a  way i can choose which AP to associate with from a list03:30
brendan_um... anybody want to field this?03:30
brendan_I usually use iwconfig to just set it up manually, but that's for networks I know03:30
brendan_I haven't looked at the graphical tools much lately03:30
_adubcellerdoor amen brother03:31
_adubi have used linux since 9703:31
_aduband i have used all the most popular distros03:31
_adubyour using the best one03:31
brendan_yeah, very true CellarDoor, re: the man(drake/driva) issue03:31
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Mrono|wifisee03:32
Joltbrendan, I was shown these drivers earlier... ( for the rt2570 Dongle ), and bipolar said he wud try and sort something out for me. Not sure what he was going to do... any ideas?03:32
Jolthttp://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads03:32
jerwareafter i configure a new ip address manually(to move laptop from subnet to subnet),  must i restart some sort of networking service?03:32
Mrono|wifimy wifi is wireless friendly03:32
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brendan_the thing with Mandrake was that it didn't have any of the devel tools, and it had weird non-standard packages03:32
brendan_I haven't used it since about 9.0, so I can't speak to mandriva03:32
brendan_um.... lemme take a look jolt03:33
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brendan_yep, I think I ran across that sourceforge page earlier03:33
CellarDoorbrendan_: yes, I think simplicity is the key, rather than each distro having its own "third party" graphical apps (even though I do like YAST)... simplicity allows a new user to get his/her head around Linux/Unix concepts easier, rather than being always in the dark and reliant upon distro specific apps when things dont work right...03:34
Mrono|wifihey brendan03:35
Mrono|wifiath0 is my wifi03:35
brendan_ah, k03:35
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Mrono|wifinow to boot back into my os03:35
CellarDoorhey, did anyone hear about London's announcement that theyre gonna have a 1km square wifi hotspot in the middle of London's business district... for free ?03:35
Mrono|wifii'm on slax03:35
Mrono|wifihttp://slax.linux-live.org03:36
brendan_yeah, apparently they're putting them on lampposts, etc.03:36
CellarDoorcoolness03:36
Joltlampposts eh?? yoink03:36
CellarDoormoble phone companies arent happy about it I heard03:36
_adubdoes anyone know how to associate with one wireless AP from linux03:36
brendan_if you know the AP, you can type: sudo iwconfig eth0 essid AP03:37
CellarDoorJolt: as long as it works... if it works, who cares ;)03:37
brendan_where eth0 is your wireless card03:37
_adubi dont know if i need sometihng that will allow me to go into monitor mode and still be able to talk out to the internet to accomplish this or what but i need this functionality thats for sure03:37
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brendan_and "AP" is your access point ssid03:37
brendan_well, the nice thing with the way linux handles wireless is that you put it into promiscuous mode the same way as you would with a wired ethernet card03:38
brendan_it's all insulated from ifconfig with iwconfig03:38
Joltbrendan... the sourceforge page... what do you do with the drivers?03:39
_adubbrendan thanks man i hope this works im going to try a few things03:40
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Mrono|wifibrb03:40
Mrono|wifirebooting into kubuntu03:40
CellarDoorfingers crossed...03:41
brendan_just taking a look at the docs jolt03:41
brendan_it looks like you need to have the kernel headers installed... do you?03:41
brendan_and are you running a kubuntu kernel, or a custom one?03:41
brendan_ok, good luck with it _adub03:42
Joltbrendan, i'm going to be blatently honest.... I have no idea03:43
Jolti doubt somehow it's custom... it's a fresh install03:43
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kakeihi does any one have installed Pureline (KDE-theme) after i compile it i dont get a kde theme file .. any idea?03:44
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brendan_ok jolt, no worries03:45
brendan_kakei, after typing make, type sudo make install03:45
brendan_that should install it03:45
brendan_ok jolt, basically what we have to do is compile the driver to match your running kernel03:46
brendan_so first off, you need to open Adept03:46
kakeibrendan_, no it doesn't. :(03:46
brendan_ah, k03:47
brendan_I remember having problems with pureline too03:47
brendan_um, let me check03:47
kakeibrendan_,03:47
kakeiis theres no way to u send me ur kde theme file _?03:47
brendan_err, yeah, that might work I suppose, assuming we're running the same kernel version03:47
kakei2.6.12-1003:48
brendan_although I'm running kde 3.5.1, so I'm not sure that it'd install correctly on yours03:48
brendan_unless you're running that as well03:48
kakeii run kde 3.5.1 too03:48
brendan_k03:48
brendan_lemme take a look then03:48
Mronook03:49
Mronoback03:49
brendan_jolt, you still around?03:49
Joltyup03:49
Mrononow03:49
brendan_ok, got adept open?03:49
Mronohow shall I go about this03:49
kakeibrendan_, so ? :D03:50
Joltfraid i can't, machine is turned off03:50
Jolt "uname -r" = 2.6.12-9-38603:50
Joltis that what you need? ^^03:50
Mronohey brendan03:50
MronoI got good and bad news03:50
brendan_just looking into it kakei, I'm trying to figure out how I got it to compile03:51
kakeibad first i guess03:51
brendan_it's got files all over the place, so it's probably easier for me to figure out how to get it to work on yours03:51
Mronowhat are you compiline03:51
brendan_yep, jolt, I figured that's probably what you were running03:51
brendan_you need to install a couple of things though, to get it to compile the driver03:51
brendan_that's what I meant03:51
Joltah, k03:52
brendan_just trying to help jolt get his wireless working03:52
brendan_so what's the good vs bad news Mrono?03:52
Mronoash03:52
Mronowell03:52
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Mronogood is that iwconfig works03:52
kakeibrendan_, hmm but send me ur kth file maybe thats easier hehe we use the same kernel,kde version03:52
Mronobad is that it doesn't see my card03:52
brendan_kakei ah, I see what you mean03:52
kakei:)03:53
brendan_ah Mrono, lol, that's probably why iwconfig works, lol03:53
Mronoyeah...03:53
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adubbrendan you around?03:53
brendan_lol, yep, just doing 4 things at once03:53
brendan_what's up?03:53
adubthe command didnt work it just changes the name of essid not what im associating with03:53
adubim still hooked to the same MAC and AP03:53
brendan_ah03:54
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brendan_um, not sure on that one03:54
brendan_you might try to autoconfigure (i.e. with dhcpcd or something similar) and see if that works03:54
brendan_or you might want to make sure that the card is offline first03:54
brendan_as with ifconfig eth0 down03:54
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adubright03:55
adubyeah i tried it down and thing commands03:55
adubetc03:55
kakeibrendan_, so :(03:55
brendan_kakei, pureline has a bunch of libraries it installs03:55
kakeii install qtdevel03:56
brendan_um, lemme make sure we're talking about the same thing03:56
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brendan_this is the pureline window decoration, right?03:56
kakeiya03:56
kakeihttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3050103:56
brendan_k03:56
Mronoheh03:56
Mronohttp://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/84075/google-loses-image-battle-with-soft-porn-publisher.html03:56
kakeiinteresting, just the url03:56
kakeilol03:57
brendan_yep, that's what I'm running, I think03:57
kakeiur kth file will work :D!03:57
brendan_um... it doesn't make a kth file03:58
kakeihow did u put it at themes?03:58
brendan_it's a native windeco, not a theme03:58
kakeifor example03:58
kakeiargh03:58
kakeii got baghira03:58
kakeiand i have a kth03:58
brendan_well, yeah, baghira creates one, I believe, but baghira also has a visual style03:59
brendan_I just tried recompiling to make sure, and pureline definitely doesn't create any .kth file03:59
kakeibrendan_, could u share a desktop screenshot ?03:59
kakeibrendan_, i compiled it but nothing happens :(03:59
MronoI like mine03:59
Mronocrystal04:00
brendan_err, ok, so what happens when you do the configure? it runs properly?04:00
kakeihttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969 his one?04:00
kakeibrendan_,04:00
kakei./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` && make && sudo make install04:00
kakeii did that04:00
kakeibut nothing happen04:01
Mrono1 sec04:01
Mronoi'll upload mine04:01
brendan_k, kakei, I'm going to upload a screenshot for you, and then I'll package my compiled pureline folder and upload that too04:04
brendan_then you should be able to just do a make install from that04:04
kakeik04:05
kakeiand thx man04:05
Mronomy turn!04:07
Joltlol04:07
kakeiahaha04:07
Mronoi'm making a list of things to fix04:07
brendan_ok kakei, for the screenshot, try http://bitsmithy.net/screen.png04:07
brendan_I just turned pureline on to get it working04:07
brendan_give me a second to package the compiled directory04:08
CellarDoornice04:08
CellarDoorwhat window deco is that ?04:08
kakeihttp://bitsmithy.net/ ur blog ? http://kakei.us [but it's in spanish(native language..)] 04:09
brendan_yeah, I'm still setting it up04:09
brendan_haven't had a chance to spend much time on it yet04:09
kakeiOh04:09
brendan_as you might have guessed from the front page04:09
brendan_lol04:09
kakeibrendan_, have u test wordpress?04:09
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brendan_I looked at it, but i ended up choosing cmsmadesimple04:09
brendan_I like the XHTML, it's nice and clean04:09
CellarDoorgimp's interface needs a major overhaul04:10
yeonhoohi04:10
yeonhoowhat text edit program is on kubuntu?04:10
CellarDooroh... how dumb am I...04:10
CellarDoor:P04:10
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yeonhooim trying to type kate archive_name but it crashes..04:11
Joltyeonhoo, OpenOffice AFAIK04:11
CellarDoornevermind me... nothing to see here... move along04:11
brendan_http://bitsmithy.net/pureline-forkakei.tar.gz04:11
yeonhoojolt, on konsole04:12
Joltvi04:12
yeonhoowhat command to excute their programs?04:12
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brendan_anyways, yeah, I haven't really used pureline lately, so I just switched into it for the screenshot04:12
yeonhoomore easy program-.-04:12
yeonhoovi is very difficult to novice as im04:12
Jolt"./filename" for VI04:12
brendan_I actually like crystal with the vista-style borders, though it's a bit of a resource hog04:12
Joltoh04:12
yeonhoogui program could be great04:13
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yeonhoobut i dont know whats the command to excute their program04:13
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yeonhoowow04:13
yeonhoothank you04:13
yeonhooim working with fpc04:13
Mronohttp://mrono.net/main/photos/computer/desktop02232006.png04:13
Mronowhoops04:14
brendan_any luck kakei?04:14
kakeidownloading04:14
brendan_ok, anyways, I feel like I was helping other people, lol04:14
Mrononow it works04:14
brendan_what's next? ;)04:14
brendan_the wireless?04:14
Joltplease04:15
Jolt:)04:15
brendan_ok jolt, err, what point were we at?04:15
brendan_we needed to install the kernel source, right?04:15
Mronoi'll be figuring out my wireless at the moment04:15
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Mronojust say my name when someone can help04:15
brendan_k04:15
Mrono!wifi04:16
ubotuI guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto04:16
Jolt  "uname -r" = 2.6.12-9-386 was the last info I posted04:16
brendan_kinda running out of ideas for yours Mrono, sorry it's not working out so well04:16
brendan_yep04:16
Mronowell04:16
Mrononow that the iwconfig works04:16
Mronoi might be able to go somewhere with this04:16
brendan_true enough Mrono04:17
brendan_so if you type iwconfig, does it tell you an interface that has "wireless extensions"?04:17
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kakeibrendan_, nothing04:17
brendan_kakei, you typed make install?04:17
kakeii did04:17
Mronobrenden_04:17
brendan_um... ok, just to double check kakei, you know it's called "deckgen...something...pureline" right?04:18
Mronowireless tools is also avalable as a package04:18
brendan_it's in the menu under d04:18
kakeiargh ??04:18
brendan_err, afaik iwconfig is part of wireless tools04:18
Mronoyeah04:18
_tomim trying to access an ntfs partition (sda2) but kubuntu says 'could not enter folder /media/sda2' .. whats wrong?!04:18
Mronodon't pay attn to me kakai04:18
admrlanyone here using amarok 1.4 beta04:18
Mronoanyone see my desktop04:19
MronoI AM04:19
Mronolol04:19
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d8vidI have a "Kat Desktop Search Environment" icon in my system tray. Anyone know how to get rid of the thing?04:19
admrlthats it..?04:20
brendan_err, kinda lost track of things in the conversation there Mrono... what do you get if you just type 'iwconfig' ?04:20
Mronono ath004:20
Mronoi get....04:20
admrlno good04:20
Mronolo        no wireless extensions.04:20
Mronoeth0      no wireless extensions.04:20
Mronosit0      no wireless extensions.04:20
d8vidThe thing doesn't seem to have any option to quit or anything. :(04:20
brendan_k04:20
Mronobut04:20
_adubsomething that should be so easy has now become so hard04:20
_adublol04:20
brendan_so it looks like it might not be loading the driver04:20
Mronoremember we uninstalled iot04:20
Mronoremember04:20
brendan_yeah04:21
farousjust checking can anyone check if he can draw an open circle with openoffice draw. I want to know if it is specific to my openoffice or is it a bug04:21
_adubi still can not figure out how to get this crap to associate with one ap04:21
_adublol04:21
Mrononow we just have to reinstall it04:21
Mronolol04:21
brendan_so if you modprobe the driver back in (something like modprobe ath_pci), then do iwconfig, does it work?04:21
brendan_yeah, lol, isn't this fun?04:21
Mronobash: modeprobe: command not found04:22
brendan_sudo modprobe ath_pci04:22
brendan_sorry, you need to do most of this with root privelages04:22
Mronoi did04:22
Mronoi did su04:22
Mronoroot@weridkid:/home/mrono# modeprobe ath_pci04:22
Mronobash: modeprobe: command not found04:22
farousMrono: you had the command wrong its modprobe not modeprobe04:22
brendan_make sure you use "modprobe" without the E04:23
Mronolol04:23
Mronotypo04:23
brendan_ah, k04:23
MronoFATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/madwifi/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)04:23
farousMrono: just copy and paste from the channel04:23
brendan_ooh, fun04:23
brendan_lol04:23
Mronoyep04:23
brendan_err, what's at the end if you type "dmesg"04:23
Mronoa 50 page essay04:24
brendan_yeah, but it'll have something at the very end, that'll be the most recent04:24
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Mrono[4296884.350000]  ath_pci: Unknown symbol ieee80211_ioctl_giwtxpow04:24
brendan_huh04:24
brendan_well, that's new04:24
brendan_um... I *think* it's looking for a module that controls the transmission power of the card04:25
Mronolol04:25
Mronoi see that04:25
Mrono'txpow'04:25
brendan_yeah04:25
brendan_um.... if it's not loading that by default, I'm at a bit of a loss... it should auto-load dependencies04:25
Mronois it any help to know that it works when i'm on a distro on my flash drive04:26
brendan_well, I would guess that that's precompiled with the driver04:26
brendan_right in the kernel modules, I would suspect04:27
brendan_um...04:27
brendan_just to double check, what kernel version are you using?04:27
Mronoum04:27
MronoRelease:  2.6.12-10-68604:27
Mronothat what you need?04:27
brendan_jolt, I've lost track of what you were doing again... did you get a chance to install the package "linux-source-2.6.12"?04:27
Jolti dunno how......04:28
brendan_ok, so yeah, that's the current kubuntu kernel04:28
brendan_oh04:28
JoltMan, I actually feel like a retard04:28
brendan_ok, jolt, can you open Adept?04:28
Mronoyou and me both04:28
brendan_lol, well, I'm not much better04:28
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Joltbrendan... i don't have the machine handy...04:28
brendan_yeah, I like synaptic too for somethings, it's got a better search function in some ways... but adept is installed by default with kubuntu04:28
brendan_oh04:28
brendan_um, it's a bit involved04:29
Joltcan you giv a short list of instructions04:29
brendan_I can try04:29
brendan_um04:29
Joltor wud it be easier to come back tomo say, and walk through it04:29
brendan_yeah, could be04:29
brendan_um... ok, lemme see if I can summarize04:29
brendan_in a console:04:29
brendan_sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1204:30
Joltdon't i need the internet conn. for that?04:30
brendan_err, yes, probably04:30
brendan_you might get away with your install dvd/cd04:30
Joltlol... that's wat i'm trying to get ;)04:30
Joltahh yes04:30
Joltmaybe04:31
brendan_ok, second command:04:31
brendan_cd /lib/modules/2.6.12/04:31
Mronoweird04:31
Joltk04:31
Mronomy kopete is all messed up04:32
Mronono accounts anymore04:32
brendan_err, sorry, a step before that04:32
brendan_cd /usr/src04:32
Joltnp04:32
brendan_tar -xjvf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz204:32
Jolt4th step? ^04:32
brendan_err, that last one should have a sudo before it04:33
brendan_that will untar the kernel sources for you04:33
brendan_yep04:33
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Mrono|kophmm04:33
brendan_you know what? I'm just going to put this in a text file for you04:33
brendan_gimme a sec04:33
Mrono|kopit worked04:33
Joltk04:33
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brendan_any idea what worked for Mrono?04:35
Mronoeh?04:35
Mronofor what04:35
brendan_oh, you're still here04:36
Mronoyeah04:36
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brendan_oh, your kopete, you mean?04:36
Mronoyeah04:36
Mronoit's being weurd04:36
brendan_um, anyways Mrono, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around your problem04:36
Mronolol04:36
brendan_it seems to me that your driver isn't behaving properly... did you compile it, or is it just part of kubuntu04:37
Mronopart of kubuntu04:37
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Mronothat's right kopete04:38
MronoDIE!04:38
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Mronoah04:39
Mronodownloading at 350kb/s is great04:39
MronoI wonder how bad setting up linux would have been if I had been on dial-up04:40
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brendan_yeah, that would be unfortunate, lol04:40
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brendan_um, ok, if it's not detecting the hardware on its own, I suspect you may need to do a kernel recompile with a driver from source04:40
brendan_maybe there's something specific about your hardware that's not working, or maybe the kubuntu driver is old04:41
brendan_not sure04:41
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Mronoum04:41
Mronojust how bad is it going to be to do a kernal compile04:42
Mronoooo04:42
Mronoif I do that04:42
MronoI need to add in some other things as well04:42
Mronosuch as toshiba support04:42
Tulgahi all! I want install xgl on dapper 4. please suggest me good howto04:42
Snake__!xgl04:42
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/04:42
Mronowait a minue04:42
Mronoyou guys ever use kconfigure04:44
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Mronosigh04:45
xwolf-is there a way to disable kopete's auto-correction feat?04:45
Mronoi'm recompilile kopete04:45
Mronohuh04:45
brendan_ok jolt, I've got my *best guess* as to what will work04:46
xwolf-annoying thingie lol04:46
Mronowhat is it04:46
Joltbrendan, k04:46
Mronoum ok04:46
brendan_http://bitsmithy.net/jolt.txt04:46
brendan_give or take a bit, those are the basic steps04:47
brendan_but it may or may not work very well... I'll try to be on tomorrow when you've got a computer to compare it against04:47
brendan_ok Mrono, sorry about that, I'm back now04:47
Mrononp04:47
Joltmuch appreciated04:47
brendan_kernel compiles take a while if you're not used to them04:47
brendan_yep, no worries jolt04:47
Mronoi'm busy recompiling kopete04:47
Joltbrendan, what time GMT are you likely to be on tomo?04:48
brendan_they're a bit tricky to get your head around, because there're a lot of options (linux basically supports *everything* made in the last 30 years)04:48
Tulga!xgl04:48
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/04:48
Mronoi soooo want thato work04:49
Mronobut nooo04:49
Mronomine has to be fussy04:49
Mronohmmmmm04:49
Mronodefine dapper04:49
brendan_um...not sure jolt, I've got some stuff I need to get done tomorrow, but I'm hoping to be on by maybe... 17:00 or 18:00 GMT04:49
Mrono!dapper04:49
brendan_next version after breezy04:49
Mronoah04:50
Mronoflight cd 404:50
Joltbrendan, k, again much appreciated... thanks04:50
brendan_yep, no worries04:50
brendan_glad to help04:50
tristanmikei'm back for more, lol04:50
tristanmikewhen I try to download a file with Konqueror, it opens Kate and doesn't save it, any suggestions/04:51
tristanmike?04:51
brendan_err... it's probably on the server side, I'd guess their mime settings are wrong04:51
tristanmikekde-look.org?04:52
brendan_as to a solution, there's always right click/save link as04:52
brendan_lol, well, hard to say04:52
tristanmikethat saves a file called "download.php"04:52
brendan_might be on your end then04:52
brendan_oh04:52
brendan_I see04:52
brendan_um... firefox?04:52
adub_how do you associate with an AP04:52
brendan_some other browser other than konqueror is probably the easiest solution04:52
tristanmikeyeah, that works, but that's a "band-aid" but I suppose I can't expect sites to work with konqueror, but kde-look.org, lol04:53
brendan_not sure of the exact cause... usually it's because they don't have mime set up properly, and the file says it's download.php, not whatever extension is expected04:53
brendan_lol, yeah04:53
brendan_it's kinda a weird system04:53
brendan_I've run across that before, but I never really looked for a solution, since I usually use firefox anyways04:54
brendan_hmmm, those xgl videos do look cool04:55
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Mronoman04:58
MronoI sure do enjoy a good clean configure and make install04:59
brendan_lol, your kopete install?04:59
Mronobah04:59
Mrononot yet04:59
Mronostill missing a few things04:59
brendan_ah04:59
Mronoit's like a scavenger hunt everythime i install something04:59
Mronogo find this file05:00
Mronogo find this lib05:00
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brendan_anyways, as far as your kernel compile goes, I can help you through it if you like, but I think maybe not tonight, lol05:00
brendan_if you haven't done it before, it can take a while05:00
Mronotomorrow05:00
brendan_yep, I'm hoping to be on05:00
Mronofun thing05:00
brendan_I'm on reading week right now, so I've got a bit of time :)05:01
MronoI installed a run as user program05:01
Mronoso I can run konq a root05:01
Mronomake my life easier05:01
brendan_well, you know that kdesu will do that?05:01
Mronosure05:01
Mronolol05:01
brendan_i.e. kdesu konqueror05:02
MronoI saw it in synaptic05:02
brendan_ah, k05:02
Mronoeverytime I open synaptic I install 20 things05:02
brendan_yeah, I know what you mean with that, lol05:02
brendan_I still do most of my work with apt-get, but the graphical tools are handy for seeing what's available05:02
brendan_though you can also do:05:03
brendan_apt-cache pkgnames | grep whatever05:03
Mronolots of text confuses me05:03
Mronolol05:03
Mronothat's why I like Kconfigure05:03
brendan_yeah, I used Debian long before ubuntu exists, so I did most of it from the command line05:04
Mronoah05:04
Mronoi'm a linux newb05:04
Mronoso a gui is alot easier05:04
brendan_actually, at one point, I had Debian woody running on a 100 MHz, 16MB of ram pentium notebook05:04
brendan_no X, but it ran a webserver, ssh, etc. quite nicely05:05
Mronolol05:05
brendan_it was fun05:05
MronoI have win 2000 server running on a 233mhz 128mb ram05:05
brendan_even played mp3's if there wasn't much else running05:05
Mronolaptop05:05
brendan_hmmm, didn't know it'd run on that05:05
Mronoyep05:05
Mronovery well acually05:05
Mronotwo windrops05:05
brendan_XP needs (supposedly) 300 MHz and 64 MB of ram05:05
Mrono1 mirc05:05
Mronoand a few other misc05:06
Mronoand the processor is only at 3%05:06
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brendan_of course, anything less than about 500 MHz and 128 MB of ram will barely boot05:06
brendan_and even that...05:06
brendan_cool05:06
MronoI ran xp on that machine05:06
Mronomain computer05:06
CellarDoormy computer came with xp05:06
CellarDoor256meg of ram05:06
Mronoif I didn't need mirc on it05:06
CellarDoorran like a dog05:07
brendan_yeah, I'm running a debian server that I use as a remote X server/dvd movie machine, etc. in my room, but this computer that i'm on now is a thinkpad05:07
Mronoi'd run slax on it05:07
brendan_cool05:07
Mronothis suckers horrible05:07
Mronoand I hate toshiba for building it05:07
brendan_the thinkpad I'm on now is a 1500 MHz Centrino with 1400x1050 screen res and 512 mb of ram05:07
Mronoand you'll see why once you see the vid05:07
brendan_dual booting xp pro and kubuntu (I occasionally need XP)05:08
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Mronoditto05:08
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Mronowoah05:08
Mronothey acually stopped selling finally05:08
brendan_over the course of the last couple of years, this computer has had knoppix, debian, gentoo, debian, more debian, and kubuntu on it05:09
brendan_done a few reinstalls, lol05:09
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brendan_gentoo is fun05:09
brendan_but it's a lot of work05:09
brendan_really speedy though05:09
brendan_but kubuntu is so easy05:09
CellarDoorI bought this computer a couple of years ago... first PC I had bought in years... since Win98 ran fast on much lesser systems I was really annoyed to find WinXP running like a slug on an AthonXP2800+... everyone was telling me, "you really need 512meg for it to run well"... I thought "get lost" and started playing with Linux...05:09
brendan_lol, yeah05:09
brendan_I have mixed feelings about XP05:10
brendan_I think that XP and 98 SE are about the only decent versions made recently... used winME for a while and it really turned me off of Windows05:10
Mronohttp://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006ZKIK6/102-6152066-1521714?v=glance&n=54196605:11
brendan_but for most people, I've gotta admit, Linux just isn't there yet05:11
Mronothat's mine05:11
Mronowin me is horrible05:11
Mronoblack spot on windows05:11
brendan_crazy05:11
brendan_lol, yeah05:11
Mronoyeah05:11
brendan_although its defrag utility isn't bad05:11
CellarDoorI am "most people"05:11
tristanmikeif I can interject, only not there because of third party support, like games and other popular software05:11
CellarDoorI'm running kubuntu05:11
CellarDoorits not that hard05:11
Mronoit's got a ati radon 900005:11
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Mrono129mb SHARED mem05:12
Mrono128*05:12
brendan_yeah, don't get me wrong, I like linux a lot better, lol, I run it for most things05:12
Mronokeep in mind05:12
Mronothis came out after the 980005:12
Mronoand toshiba has the audasity to put a 9000 in it05:12
CellarDooras someone who still considers himself a linux n00b, I'm much happier with kubuntu than I ever was with XP05:12
brendan_fair enough05:12
Mronoit will take awhile for me to be haooy with linux05:12
CellarDoorAnd I dont mind having to simply make sure I buy linux friendly hardware05:13
brendan_I've actually been playing with vmware player lately05:13
Mronoat the moment i'd be happy to scrap this and reformat with winxp pro05:13
brendan_well, for better or worse, XP has the market inertia05:14
brendan_but linux is certainly moving up05:14
MronoI can't wait till beta 2 of vista comes out05:14
Mronoyeah05:14
MronoI want KDE 405:14
Mronoit's the vista of linux05:14
brendan_lol, indeed05:14
CheeseBurgerManlol05:14
CellarDoorthats one reason I think Apple wont open OSX up and sell it on PC's in general... apart from the fact that they've never done something like that, It would open up OSX to the same hardware support issues that face Linux... and I dare say that Linux would come of better unless Apple could muster broad support from hardware suppliers prior to such a release...05:15
brendan_the thing that bugs me about vista is that, from what I've read, you're going to need a workstation class video card just to be able to run the user interface05:15
CellarDoorbrendan_: I think thats only if you want to use "aero glass"05:15
CheeseBurgerManYeah, and you can't really turn too much of it off either, from what I've heard.05:15
brendan_yeah, part of the advantage that apple's always had is that they build on closed hardware05:15
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Mronoyeah05:16
Mronobrb05:16
CellarDoorno, you can still run Vista in "classic" mode (a la Win98 look)05:16
brendan_they know *exactly* what hardware the user's going to have, so they don't have to make everything run on anything05:16
CheeseBurgerManOh, OK05:16
brendan_yeah, true enough05:16
brendan_although, from what I've heard, most of the advances they're touting are user-interface oriented05:16
CellarDoornot advances05:17
brendan_though I'm sure there's lots of stuff under the hood as well05:17
CellarDoorripoffs05:17
brendan_haha, true05:17
CellarDoorI cant think of one "feature" that Microsoft is gonna push on Vista that other OSes dont already have...05:17
CheeseBurgerManWell, there's those who invent, and those who make a living off taking others inventions. ;)05:17
CellarDoorI mean... image gallery ? Come on !05:18
brendan_lol05:18
CellarDoorGadgets ? erm...05:18
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brendan_they dropped all the "My ..." names, anc changed them to just "Computer" and "Documents"05:18
CellarDoora la Widgets, a la Konfabulator...05:18
CellarDoorsecurity ? *scoff*05:18
brendan_which, to be fair, apple also ripped off, didn't they?05:19
CellarDooroh yeah05:19
CheeseBurgerManCellarDoor: Sure, but it has more security built in to it than XP does.05:19
CellarDoorCheeseBurgerMan: XP has security ?05:19
CellarDoor;)05:19
CheeseBurgerManExactly. ;)05:19
CellarDoorhehe05:19
CheeseBurgerManXP has the Windows firewall if you have SP2 - that's about it...05:20
CheeseBurgerManVista adds WIndows Defender.05:20
CellarDoorhey you know about a couple of virii or worms that apparently can infect Apple systems ?05:20
CellarDoorrecent things05:20
CheeseBurgerManThe "trojan-horse" thing?05:20
CellarDoorI was reading an article earlier that was from about middle of last year05:21
brendan_ooh, "Windows Defender"... exciting sounding05:21
CellarDoorthat basically predicted such a thing would happen05:21
CheeseBurgerManYes, it's icon is even a shield! How can that be bad? :P05:21
CellarDoorVista wont have "too much" security05:21
natexanyone have a reason not to use a single 250 GB partition?05:21
CellarDoorIf it does, Microsoft wont make any money entering the market for security software ;)05:21
CheeseBurgerManVista and "too much security" don't belong in the same sentence.05:22
CheeseBurgerMannatex: Yeah, I don't have a 250GB drive. :P05:22
natex:)05:22
brendan_well, to be fair, it *is* supposed to run with non-administrator privelages (a la every operating system other than windows)05:22
brendan_so I guess that could be considered to be a feature05:22
CheeseBurgerManAt least, an advancement.05:22
CheeseBurgerManto the modern day.05:23
CheeseBurgerManwell05:23
MronoI had Windows oncare05:23
CheeseBurgerManmaybe not 'modern' ideas there.05:23
Mronoonecare*05:23
Mronogood program05:23
Mronoantivirus05:23
Mronofirewall05:23
CellarDoorWhat really erks me is that M$ with all their billions, cant to anything better than rip off others (and that, belatedly)... the propaganda is always the same, and people keep falling for it... Ive seen it all before, back in the 90's... I assure you, they havent changed...05:23
Mronoand i had microsoft antispyware beta05:23
CheeseBurgerManMrono: Oh. I use AntiVir. MS antispyware, Spybot, Adware, and Kerio Personal Firewall05:24
CheeseBurgerManAdaware*05:24
CheeseBurgerManlol05:24
brendan_http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/02/microsoft_antispyware_deleting_1.html05:24
Mronouh05:24
brendan_this is a great article on so many levels...05:24
brendan_lol05:24
CheeseBurgerManAlthough I haven't used any of them in awhile - Windows won't detect my wireless network. :)05:24
CheeseBurgerManlol, I heard about that.05:25
CheeseBurgerManHilarious. :)05:25
CheeseBurgerMan(or however you spell that)05:25
CellarDoorbrendan_: hahaha thats so funny.... not that Microsoft havent done anything like that before ;)05:25
CellarDoorI smell a court case on the horizon05:25
Mronoarg05:25
brendan_haha, no, it's "beta quality" software05:25
Mronono matter how many packages i install i still get05:26
Mronoconfigure: WARNING: Could not find ilbc headers or libs. Please install ilbc package from http://www.linphone.org if you want iLBC codec support in Kopete Jabber plugin.05:26
CellarDoorhehe05:26
brendan_that means that MIcrosoft isn't held accountable for anything05:26
CheeseBurgerManEven if it is Giant Anti-Spyware - which was a non-beta program.05:26
brendan_huh05:26
brendan_I've never compiled kopete05:26
CellarDoorI love it05:26
Mronoi've got the package05:26
Mronoi just installed it twice05:26
CellarDoorMicrosoft spokesperson: "oops, wonder how that got there"05:26
brendan_on the other hand, do you actually use voip in jabber through kopete?05:26
Mronono but05:26
CheeseBurgerManMrono: I know how you feel - Firefox does that for me, can't find a lib that I actually have.05:27
Mronogoogle chat uses it05:27
CheeseBurgerManWierd.05:27
brendan_ah05:27
brendan_fair enough, hadn't thought of that05:27
CheeseBurgerManGaim! ;)05:27
Mronokopeteutils_private.cpp:50: warning: unused parameter 'action'05:27
Mronokopetelistview.cpp: In constructor 'Kopete::UI::ListView::ListView::Private::Private()':05:27
Mronokopetelistview.cpp:160: warning: 'Kopete::UI::ListView::ListView::Private::mouseNavigation' will be initialized after05:27
Mronokopetelistview.cpp:131: warning:   'QStyle::SubControl Kopete::UI::ListView::ListView::Private::pressedControl'05:27
Mronokopetelistview.cpp:162: warning:   when initialized here05:27
Mronofair05:27
CellarDoorhey, if there's a google chat plugin for kopete, let me know :D05:27
Mronoit IS beta05:27
Mronoget the beta05:28
Mronoi think it's in there05:28
CellarDoorlast time I looked they only supported gaim05:28
tristanmikethere's a possiblity that microsoft will have ad's on their welcome screen for vista too05:28
CellarDoorargh05:28
CellarDoorand music ?05:28
tristanmikehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Antitrust-Case-In-The-Making-17865.shtml05:29
MronoKopete now features experimental support for Google Talk voice chats.05:29
CellarDoorplease dont say there's music05:29
brendan_hehe, for some reason I find that funny and not worrying05:29
CheeseBurgerManCellarDoor: As Mrono said, Google Talk uses the Jabber protocol, so it should work with any Jabber client.05:29
CellarDoorMrono: excellent05:29
CellarDooroh ok05:29
CheeseBurgerManHeh, guess we need an Adblock for Windows now, and not just Firefox. ;)05:29
CellarDoorpardon my n00bness05:29
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CheeseBurgerManNP - we're all n00bs at some point.05:29
Mronoyou know whats better then a quick clean install?05:29
CellarDoor:)05:30
Mronoan install that sails through after you've had to hunt for 3-4 packages05:30
CheeseBurgerManMrono:  A quick clean install with ads!05:30
CheeseBurgerManoh. :P05:30
Mronoha!05:30
Mronolol05:30
brendan_yeah, I know what you mean05:31
brendan_it's kinda satisfying to finally get it to work05:31
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CheeseBurgerManYeah.05:31
CheeseBurgerManI spent two days trying to get my wireless working in here.05:31
CheeseBurgerManFelt great when it worked. ;)05:31
Mronowoah05:31
robotgeek_away /nick robotgeek05:32
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Mronois it possible to run KDE on mac05:32
brendan_I feel like I need a cooler name... that underscore is starting to get rediculous05:32
Mronotrue05:32
brendan_afaik, it is05:32
robotgeekMrono: i tht i read it somewhere05:32
CheeseBurgerManHeh05:32
Mronodarn05:32
CheeseBurgerManA friend of mine is trying to do that too. :P05:32
Mronoman05:33
Mronothis is quite the install05:33
Mronostill going05:33
CellarDoorah qca-tls is already installed... excellent05:33
CellarDoorooh this is exciting05:33
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flamingmonkeyhuh, well, who would have thought that'd be in use05:34
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CheeseBurgerManlol05:34
CheeseBurgerManI've actually never had CheeseBurgerMan be in use. :D05:34
brendan_hmmm05:35
Mronolol05:35
brendan_lol05:35
brendan_ah well05:35
brendan_I'll have to come up with something sleek and exciting sounding05:35
CheeseBurgerManbrendan_: become greaseballofdoom05:35
CheeseBurgerMan:D05:35
brendan_you know, like with 6000 on the end05:35
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Mronodarnit05:36
Mronoit didn't work05:36
brendan_lol, nah, I'm good05:36
CheeseBurgerMan:P05:36
brendan_greaseballofdoom is probably taken anyways, such a prime name and all05:36
Mronobut you know what05:36
CellarDoorerm.. what is google's talk server ?05:36
brendan_I feel like it's talk.google.com05:37
CellarDoorI just used talk.google.com and got an unknown host05:37
brendan_but I havent' checked that05:37
brendan_ah05:37
Mronoidk05:37
CheeseBurgerManbrendan_: Yeah, those grease balls are everywhere.05:37
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flamingxmonkeywell, that one's not taken05:37
CellarDooroh... my jabber ID is prolly already in use...05:37
Mronohey05:38
Mronohow do you install .jar05:38
flamingxmonkeyusually a .jar is just runnable with the java runtime05:40
flamingxmonkeyjava *.jar05:40
flamingxmonkeyor something like that05:40
flamingxmonkeyyou might need to give it the path05:40
Mronouh05:40
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CellarDoorI'm not getting anywhere here05:41
flamingxmonkeyhmmm, ok, well, I've got this name registered now, so I guess this is what I'll use05:42
CheeseBurgerManlol, that works.05:43
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flamingxmonkeyyeah, it's fun at least05:43
CellarDooroh... you have to have a google mail address to use google talk ?05:43
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CheeseBurgerManI guess. I've never bothered with it.05:43
CellarDoorwhat a pain05:44
flamingxmonkeyyeah, I think you do05:44
CellarDoor"dont be evil" my arse05:44
flamingxmonkeylol05:44
CheeseBurgerManhehe05:44
flamingxmonkeywell, they've put themselves in a bit of a position lately05:44
gammacups works for me on dapper :D!!!05:45
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Snake__cups?05:47
flamingxmonkeycommon unix printing system05:47
Snake__ah05:47
gammaonly issue i have now with dapper is kaffeine sometimes crashes konqueror using embedded files from websites05:47
gammanot exactly sure how to fix it either..05:47
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CellarDoorargh05:49
CellarDoorthere doesnt seem to be any sign up info on the gmail page other than "sign up using your mobile phone"05:49
CellarDoorwhat the hell is that !05:49
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gammaCellarDoor: give me your current email addy ill send you an invite05:50
Mronooh05:51
MronoI couldhave as well05:51
gammai think anyone could.. 99 invites left :P05:52
gammai think they should keep the registration system like this05:52
CheeseBurgerManlol, I think I have that many too05:52
flamingxmonkeyI probably do, lol05:52
CheeseBurgerManTogether, we can invite the channel! ;)05:52
flamingxmonkeyhmmm, yeah 100 left05:54
CheeseBurgerManlol05:54
gammayou could send invites to yourself and have 1billion invites after a while :P05:55
CheeseBurgerManlol05:55
gammafor a massive 1billion*2GB of storage05:55
CheeseBurgerManyeah, but I haven't even used up my current HDD. :)05:56
CheeseBurgerManAlthough it'd be a nice backup. :P05:56
gammahow do you guys like my current ss? http://home.cfl.rr.com/gamma/images/ss-kde.png05:57
CheeseBurgerManLooks good.05:59
CheeseBurgerManNice high resolution. :P05:59
flamingxmonkeyif I recall correctly, there was a project a little while back to make a linux kernel driver to allow you to use multiple, distributed gmail accounts as a hard drive05:59
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flamingxmonkeyso you could chain them together, and just mount them like a standard block device05:59
_mefistokontact keeps crashing on me with a sigsegv06:00
gammaflamingxmonkey: yea.. i remember that.. you could mount gmail accounts as hard drives06:00
flamingxmonkeyhttp://www.tipmonkies.com/2005/05/08/use-gmail-as-an-extra-hard-drive/06:00
gamma1600x1200 on a 15" laptop.. gotta love it06:00
CheeseBurgerManWow06:01
admrl_amarok 1.4!!!06:01
CheeseBurgerManI have a 14" running 1280x76806:01
flamingxmonkeyyeah, I'm running 1400x1050, but you outdue me by one :)06:01
CheeseBurgerManhttp://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8695/snapshot28aj.png <---My screenshot06:02
gammai don't mine 1024x768 as long as i'm using a good window manager06:02
CheeseBurgerManWhoa. I just tried to type into the Gaim on my screenshot. :P06:02
gammain kde i dont even use multiple desktops.. too much of a pain to manage06:02
CheeseBurgerMangamma: same.06:02
CheeseBurgerMani don't want to think about what's on what desktop.06:02
gammaCheeseBurgerMan: why aren't you using konversation?06:02
CheeseBurgerManI like Gaim. :P06:03
gammaeww :P06:03
CheeseBurgerManlol06:03
gammagaim-2.0 looks gross and breaks everything good in gaim-1.506:03
CheeseBurgerManI don't have 2.0 ;)06:03
gammagood man :P06:04
gammaadmrl_: yea amarok1.4 rocks06:04
gammai used to hate amarok, but i must have been stupid before06:04
CellarDoorfinally... my gmail account is registered.... arrrgghhhgh !06:04
=== CheeseBurgerMan uses XMMS.
gammaosd, query, podcasts and dynamic mode rules06:05
=== Snake__ doesnt understand dynamic mode..
admrl_ive been working on graphic design for amarok06:05
CellarDoordynamic mode is rather cool06:05
CheeseBurgerManAmaroK doesn't seem to recognise the soundcard, but I've gotta restore my backup and get my music back before I can see if it was a quirk in my install.06:05
gammaCheeseBurgerMan: try another backend..06:05
Snake__I dont understand how it owrks06:06
CellarDooryeah06:06
Snake__or what it does for that matter06:06
CellarDoorget rid of gstreamer06:06
CheeseBurgerMansir, yes sir!06:06
CheeseBurgerMan:P06:06
Snake__Get xine06:06
gammaSnake__: it's basically random mode, but it always keeps the list full06:06
CellarDoorits erm... well... dynamic :D06:06
gammaxine ftw06:06
Snake__gamma: I just tell it to put my whole collection in the player..06:06
Snake__lol06:06
CellarDoorIt adds songs to the list it thinks you like06:06
gammamy current amarok theme is slow and laggy, but looks so cool06:06
gammaSnake__: how many songs is that roughly?06:07
CellarDoormy amarok is unthemed atm06:07
CellarDoorplain ol amarok06:07
gammaew :P06:07
Snake__gamma: collection count is at 1306 tracks06:07
CellarDoorhehe06:07
CheeseBurgerManOnly 1300? ;)06:07
Snake__Yea :-/06:07
Snake__lol06:07
Snake__Im workin on uppin it ;)06:07
CheeseBurgerManlol06:07
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CellarDoorbut I'm using baghira for my kde, so plain looks alright06:08
gammai useed to add my whole playlist like that, but it was too annoying to shift between tracks and i don't like to listen to everything in order.. or everything totally random06:08
gammaCellarDoor: got a ss?06:08
Snake__gamma: how do I use dynamic mode?06:08
CellarDoorss ?06:08
Snake__screenshot06:08
gammaare you on 1.4? or 1.3.8?06:08
CellarDooroh06:08
Snake__gamma: me?06:08
gammayea06:08
Snake__1.3.8 is my regular player06:08
Snake__but I been playin with 1.406:09
Snake__Freakin awesome player06:09
Snake__(just give me directions to 1.3.8 :) )06:09
gammago to playlists and select random mix in dynamic mode06:09
gammaor there should be a little cube icon in the status bar on the bottom06:09
Mronohey06:10
Snake__wow...this isnt to smart is it..06:10
Snake__lol06:10
Mronohow do I install .jar06:10
gammaMrono: like a firefox theme?06:10
Mronono06:10
Mronolike a program I downloaded06:10
gammaoh.. i thought jars were java zips06:11
CellarDoorgamma: do you want this screenshot ?06:11
gammaoh06:11
gammayea06:11
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flamingxmonkeyhttp://bitsmithy.net/screen.png if anybody's interested06:11
gammadidn't see the dcc :P06:11
CellarDoormy desktop is pretty ordinary06:11
Mronohttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=126211&package_id=139264&release_id=36939706:11
flamingxmonkeymine's simple enough06:12
flamingxmonkeyerr, or not06:12
gammaMrono: try java -jar jarfile.here06:12
Mronohttp://mrono.net/main/photos/computer/desktop02232006.png06:12
Mronomine06:12
MronoI can extract it with ark06:12
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flamingxmonkeyseems it didn't update my new screenshot06:12
Snake__flamingxmonkey: I like your window manager06:12
gammaflamingxmonkey: intersting color choices :P06:12
CellarDoorah not bad06:12
Snake__gamma: wanna see intresting colors?06:12
Mronois that KDE?06:13
flamingxmonkeyis that the thing with the purple stripe?06:13
admrl_snake hes using kde06:13
gammayea06:13
flamingxmonkeythat's the screenshot I was working on with the guy earlier06:13
Snake__hang on06:13
flamingxmonkeyI actually use crystal normally... seems that the screenshot didn't update properly06:13
Snake__admrl_: I ment his window theme06:13
Snake__okay?06:13
Snake__lol06:13
gammaMrono: that shroom ss is like 7 years old ;) still looks good though06:13
admrl_haha06:13
GyozaI'm building a PC for my brother.  nforce2.  X randomly restarts.  What the heck?06:13
gammaCellarDoor: looks good06:13
CellarDoorMrono is that crystal windecos ?06:13
Mronojust crystal06:14
Snake__gamma: here06:14
Snake__http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6357/sweet23dr.jpg06:14
Snake__mine06:14
Snake__;)06:14
Mronoshroom?06:14
gammamy progress bars @ amarok don't work06:14
gammadunno how yours are working06:14
CellarDoorwhoah06:14
Snake__hehe06:14
CellarDoorhey I dont mind that Snake__06:14
gammaSnake__: is that your everday desktop?06:14
Snake__gamma: It was for about 3 months06:15
Snake__gamma: its blue now06:15
CellarDoorits loud and erm... pink... but I like it06:15
Snake__:)06:15
admrl_lol06:15
CheeseBurgerManlol06:15
CellarDooroh06:15
gammai'm in a dark room and my shirt just glowed purple when i opened that window06:15
gammavery BRIGHT06:15
CellarDoorI see what you've done06:15
CellarDoorI used to have that wallpaper06:15
arthompsanybody got input on getting audigy z2 driver to be used instead of onboard pos sound?06:15
Snake__LOL gamma !06:15
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Snake__gamma: you would like my flux box ;) Pure black with gray text :)06:16
gammahaha that's too dark :P06:16
admrl_oh i used to LOVE fluxbox06:16
gammai tried a peach desktop once06:16
Snake__how did that work out?06:16
gammait was alright.. easy on the eyes and kinda relaxing06:16
gammared desktops or bright blue make me frusterated06:17
CellarDoorI like xfce06:17
Snake__heh06:17
CellarDoorits a littly crashy atm though06:17
CheeseBurgerManMine's green, black, and purple. :P06:17
admrl_mine is greenish right now06:17
admrl_i did a really full vista like look06:17
CheeseBurgerManDesktop that is, not window manager. ;)06:17
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gammahttp://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1938&c=3 was my old desktop06:17
CellarDoorSnake__: what are you using as a dockapp at the bottom of your desktop ?06:18
Snake__CellarDoor: Kicker06:19
admrl_http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/8080/vistalook13bo.jpg06:19
Snake__CellarDoor: I have kicker all over the place06:19
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admrl_this is an old vista one i did06:19
CellarDooroh06:19
gammaadmrl_: is that true transparency?06:19
Snake__This is my current, and will stay like this one for a while06:19
Snake__http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/773/untitled8by.jpg06:19
CheeseBurgerManAnd that is what happens when you press "signoff" in Gaim instead of "Preferences"06:19
gammaSnake__: wtf is that hting in the top left corner?06:19
gammahaha06:20
Snake__gamma: just what it says :)06:20
Snake__its a sk theme I made06:20
flamingxmonkeyhmm, got my proper screenshot up06:20
gammano the bar graph thingy i mean06:20
flamingxmonkeyhttp://bitsmithy.net/screen1.png06:20
Snake__gamma: Hmm? OHH06:20
Snake__Thats my wifi06:20
admrl_gamma where...?06:20
Snake__Handy lil tool06:21
gammaoho06:21
gammaadmrl_: in your vista shot06:21
admrl_the toolbar..?06:21
admrl_i mean panel06:21
gammanooo the windows06:21
gammaor is that via composite06:21
admrl_no there isnt transparency06:21
Snake__does vista have trans?06:21
admrl_i think it will06:22
admrl_im not going to try06:22
admrl_it06:22
admrl_i know that :D06:22
Snake__me neither06:22
gammahttp://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png is a nice desktop06:22
Snake__admrl_: MS is going to be charging for their spyware software now06:22
gammathat's going to be free i heard06:23
Snake__gamma: you herd wrong06:23
Snake__hang on06:23
admrl_im sticking with linux06:23
Snake__same06:23
admrl_i think im going to try openSuSe06:23
gammai thought they were going to bundle it with vista or something06:23
Snake__admrl_: suse is very nice06:23
admrl_they have apt06:23
admrl_:D!!!06:23
gammaadmrl_: don't try the betas06:23
Snake__gamma: yes for $50 a year06:23
=== admrl_ likes apt
flamingxmonkeythe one you just posted looks nice, gamma06:24
gammai got rid of my windows partition so i could care list06:24
Mronoyeah06:24
gammathx06:24
flamingxmonkeyit's nice and clean06:24
Snake__gamma: http://www.zdnetindia.com/news/business/stories/134053.html06:24
robotgeek06:24
Mronobtw06:24
Mronogamma06:24
Mronowhat's the controller for amarok by your start menu06:24
admrl_Snake__: wasnt it you that wanted to know how to watch videos on the command line06:24
Snake__lol yea06:25
admrl_i foudn that out awhile back06:25
gammaSnake__: that's their antivirus.. not spyware :P06:25
admrl_install mplayer and aalib06:25
Snake__gamma: thats their whole deal.06:25
admrl_mplayer -vo aa *video*06:25
Snake__gamma: read it06:25
admrl_renders in ascii :D06:25
Snake__admrl_: sweet, ill check it out06:25
Snake__:)06:25
gammaoh.. yea but they also said they're going to have the spyware thing seperate for download too or something..06:25
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Snake__who know..they will be charging to update thier OS in due time06:26
admrl_or if you install caca mplayer -vo caca *video*06:26
gammaMrono: what.. the launcher thingy?06:26
admrl_for ansi06:26
Mronothe amarok controller06:26
tristanmikegamma, how do you get the amarok highlighted selection rounded like that?06:26
Snake__admrl_: no aalib in repos??06:26
admrl_libaa1..?06:26
admrl_maybe06:26
admrl_tristanmike thats 1.4 beta06:26
Snake__!info aalib106:27
ubotuaalib1: (ascii art library - transitional package), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.4p5-28ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 28 kB06:27
Snake__thats it06:27
admrl_i made the currenttrackbar06:27
gammatristanmike: that's the new amarok-1.4bta106:27
admrl_caca renders in color06:27
gammabeta*06:27
tristanmikemmmm...06:27
Snake__admrl_: is caca better?06:27
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admrl_no06:27
admrl_it renders in color tho06:28
admrl_lol06:28
Snake__ah ok06:28
Snake__now I cant find my vids06:28
Snake__lol06:28
admrl_for awhile i even had my webcam rendering in ascii06:28
Snake__nice06:28
flamingxmonkeythat's great06:28
admrl_haha06:28
gammaSnake__: http://www.google.com/search?q=microsoft+antispyware+to+remain+free&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-806:28
gamma:P06:28
Snake__lol06:29
tristanmikeSnake__, how did you get the graident in your bottom panel?06:29
admrl_its just an image06:29
admrl_it will stretch it to the right size06:29
Mronothe amarok controller, how06:29
admrl_use inkscape make a gradient06:29
Snake__very seet admrl_06:29
Snake__sweet*06:29
gammaMrono: the tray icon?06:30
admrl_http://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/asciicam1.jpg06:30
Mronono06:30
Mronothe ipod looking thing06:30
Mronoit looks like itunes when it's in mini mode06:30
admrl_thats my webcam06:30
Snake__lol06:30
Mronolol06:31
admrl_you gotta step back to see it06:31
Snake__its amazing how fast this thing renders06:31
CheeseBurgerManhehe06:31
gammawhat ss are you looking at Mrono?06:31
admrl_ya i know06:31
Mronohttp://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png06:31
Mronothat's yours isn't it06:31
Snake__admrl_: and its only using 49% of my lil P3's power06:31
admrl_haha06:32
admrl_we have a new no cover icon in amarok today06:32
admrl_the svn06:32
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MronoI don't think I want to bleed06:32
Snake__admrl_: I wonder if that works in a full CLI enviroment..06:32
flamingxmonkeyseems that it should06:32
flamingxmonkeyif it's really just text06:33
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flamingxmonkeyanyways, I'm off all06:33
flamingxmonkeycheers06:33
Snake__Brb im gonna find out06:33
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gammaMrono: oh no.. that's some other guys06:34
Mronooh06:34
gammai dunno what the player is.. probably like a superkaramba thingy06:34
Snake__HOLY CRAP IT DOES06:34
Snake__admrl_: LOL I CAN WATCH VIDS ON SERVER INSTALLS06:34
gammabrb06:34
admrl_Snake__ what are you can you do..?06:34
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admrl_ive never heard of cli06:35
Snake__admrl_: are you being serious.06:35
Snake__rofl.06:35
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admrl_lol i am06:35
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CellarDooradmrl_: command line interface06:35
Snake__Command Line Input...terminal...console..06:35
Snake__kik06:35
Snake__lol*06:35
admrl_ok06:35
CellarDooror that yeah06:35
CellarDoor:P06:35
robotgeek!cli06:35
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org06:35
Snake__admrl_: I just alt+ctrl+f1 and watched the movie06:36
admrl_never heard anyone call it that06:36
Snake__its pretty sweet06:36
admrl_Snake__ i know06:36
CellarDoorah see, ubotu says I was right06:36
CellarDoor;)06:36
admrl_thats how i use it06:36
Snake__Hehe06:36
CellarDoorSnake__: you didnt know you could play vids from a bash prompt ?06:36
admrl_:0-:7 are my friends06:36
Snake__ClayG: I knew I could, I didnt know how tho06:37
admrl_you cant do it in konsole or terminal06:37
Snake__Wow Mplayer is aawesome06:37
=== Snake__ plays music in terminal
Snake__hehe06:37
CellarDoorI hate mplayer06:37
admrl_Snake__ what do you use for music..?06:37
Snake__admrl_: amarok06:37
admrl_mp3123..?06:37
admrl_i mean in the terminal06:37
admrl_caca looses it in the terminal tho06:38
Snake__admrl_: dont really play music in the terminal06:38
admrl_oh06:38
CellarDoor$play coolmusic.mp306:38
admrl_aplay works too06:38
CellarDooraplay ?06:38
admrl_yep06:38
Snake__for?06:38
CellarDoorwhats the difference ?06:38
admrl_aplay -t WAV song.wav06:38
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CellarDoorI'm actually getting into The Church's Starfish album06:40
CellarDoornot sure if this is a good thing06:40
admrl_at my school ive been using terminal for alot06:40
admrl_im making scripts for a radio station that doesnt need to be touched06:40
admrl_just let it go06:40
admrl_where you can vote for songs and such06:41
CellarDoorI'm gonna buy a book to work my way through06:41
admrl_work your way through what..?06:41
CellarDoorI know there's online resources, but I like the idea of working my way through a book06:41
=== Snake__ is now known as Snake|Sleep
Snake|SleepNight guys06:41
CellarDoornite Snake|Sleep06:41
admrl_CellarDoor bash..?06:41
Snake|SleepThanks admrl_ for the aa hint :)06:41
admrl_oh yep06:41
admrl_anytime06:41
admrl_CellarDoor if your just learning bash and dont know much about programming learn arrays and loops06:42
admrl_they are the most important thing you can learn starting out06:42
CellarDooradmrl_: I'm thinking of getting this - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0131478230/qid=1140669418/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-2402939-9300824?s=books&v=glance&n=28315506:42
admrl_get one that only covers bash06:43
admrl_i made the mistake of getting a unix shell book06:43
CellarDoorI'm a n00b, and the reviews of this book are pretty good06:43
admrl_do you know what a shell is..?06:43
CellarDooryeah06:43
admrl_bash or ash and such06:43
CellarDooryeah06:43
admrl_goes on and on06:43
admrl_well learn bash06:43
admrl_thats the linux shell06:44
admrl_if you get a book that covers to many shells it gets really confusing trying to read the book06:44
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CellarDooryeah it covers bash and tcsh06:44
admrl_ya that should be good06:44
CellarDooryeah pretty much everything uses bash06:45
admrl_not too expencive either06:45
admrl_expensive*06:45
=== admrl_ thinks about how he should really learn to spell
admrl_:)06:45
CellarDoor:)06:45
CellarDoorI see some shocking spelling on IRC06:45
admrl_lol oh ya..?06:45
admrl_whats the worst youve seen06:46
CellarDoorno06:46
CellarDoor:P06:46
admrl_lol06:46
admrl_i reallly need to rework the current track bar in amarok06:46
CellarDoorA Practical Guide to Linux: Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming. Looks good. I need to start learning something...06:47
admrl_i just noticed how bad it looks in one of those screenshots06:47
CellarDoorlemme se06:47
CellarDoor*lemmy see06:47
admrl_http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png06:47
admrl_idk whos screenshot that is06:48
admrl_but the bar shows a grey gradient in it06:48
CellarDooroh yeah I saw that shot06:48
CellarDoorit has potential06:48
admrl_its becuz when i made the bar i made it grey06:48
admrl_and the gradient wasnt strong enough or something06:48
admrl_or maybe to strong you shouldnt see grey thru it its jsut the way we are overlaying the color it makes it show up06:49
admrl_like if you do a real overlay then it shows up perfect06:49
CellarDoorI dont even have a clue how to make an amarok theme06:49
admrl_im not talking about the theme06:50
CellarDooroh06:50
admrl_i do graphic design on amarok06:50
CellarDoorooh06:50
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admrl_yep yep06:50
CellarDooris this for the next version ?06:50
admrl_yep06:50
CellarDoorcool06:50
Tulgahi all! I Installed compiz-kde on dapper 4. but startx not working now. :(06:51
admrl_Tulga how long have you been using linux..?06:51
Tulgaadmrl_: 1 year06:51
admrl_lol ok06:51
admrl_if you where new i was going to say dont use dapper :)06:52
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Mronowho mentioned alt+ctrl+f1106:52
Tulgaadmrl_: but I want to see xgl06:52
Mrono!xgl06:52
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/06:52
Mrono!tell tulga about xgl06:52
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admrl_Mrono me and Snake__ where talking about it06:52
CellarDooradmrl_: I baghira'ify amarok and it looks loverly :P06:52
Mronojust what does it do06:52
MronoI had to do a hard reboot06:53
admrl_Mrono ctrl-alt-f106:53
admrl_not f1106:53
admrl_it takes you to a fullscreen terminal06:53
Mronoah06:53
CellarDoorI've been using kubuntu for about a year now06:53
Mronoand how do you exit it06:53
admrl_then ctrl-alt-f706:53
CellarDoorThis is the longest I've used any distro... thats saying something06:53
admrl_CellarDoor me to06:54
admrl_i couldnt pick until i used ubuntu06:54
CellarDooryah06:54
admrl_but sadly it is only becuz it uses a debian package manager06:54
admrl_not becuz ubuntu is amazing :D06:54
admrl_lol06:54
admrl_since ive been using it ive found a few problems i dont like06:55
CellarDoorI was considering Suse till I had a look at kubuntu... and I fell in love with apt... and kubuntu is simple... helps someone like me get to grips with things06:55
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admrl_CellarDoor Suse now uses apt06:55
CellarDooryeah I've heard about that06:56
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CellarDoorwhich is good06:56
InteliWaspany of you guys good with wireless cards and non-satndard inf files?06:56
admrl_i need to do a few icons before i go to sleep i still have like 4 undone currenttrack_bar icons for amarok to do06:56
admrl_haha06:57
CellarDoorI thought it was interesting that Suse 10 lets you install RPM's from any RPM distro too... though you'll have to put up with dependancy messages...06:57
admrl_12:57 and i start working06:57
Mronohmmm06:57
Mronostupid06:57
Mronome06:57
CellarDoorSuse with apt sounds good... but its using kde 3.406:57
MronoI hit it again before seeing how to get out of it06:58
Mronolol06:58
admrl_so does ubuntu06:58
admrl_but you can upgrade kde06:58
admrl_im using 3.5.106:58
CellarDoorI'm using 3.506:58
Mrono3.4.3 here06:58
CellarDoordo I need to update my sources for 3.5.1 ?06:58
admrl_lol if you want06:58
admrl_only bug fixes06:58
CellarDooryeah I wasnt sure if it was worth it06:59
admrl_3.4 to 3.5 was amazing06:59
admrl_im still in heaven from that update06:59
CellarDoorroll on KDE4 :D06:59
admrl_haha06:59
admrl_going to need to eventually06:59
CellarDoorI cant wait07:00
admrl_im doing some things for kalzium and if i want to see anything i need qt407:00
Mronoreally07:00
CellarDooryeh07:00
Mronowhats changed from 3.4to 3.507:00
InteliWaspuh... can you help me or do I need to go somewere else?07:00
admrl_InteliWasp maybe check the forums i dont know anything about it07:01
CellarDoorInteliWasp: sorry, thats a bit beyond my knowledge :P07:01
admrl_Mrono alot07:01
admrl_its a need07:01
InteliWaspoh well, thanks anyway07:01
Mronohmmmm07:01
admrl_and upgrade konversation07:01
Mronoi'll do it after I recompile my kernal tomorrow07:01
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admrl_your going to need to do it from source cuz there isnt an ubuntu package07:01
MronoI have konversation .1407:02
admrl_but 0.19 is AMAZING07:02
Mronowhoops07:02
Mrono.1807:02
Mronoreally07:02
admrl_compared to .1807:02
admrl_ya07:02
Mronois it as good as mirc07:02
CellarDoorI'm still using .1807:02
admrl_i dont use mirc07:02
MronoI script on mirc07:02
CellarDoormIRC !!!??07:02
admrl_ya kubuntu only has a deb for .1807:02
Mronoyeah07:02
CellarDoormIRC is teh sux0r07:02
Mronowhere can i get the source for .1907:03
CellarDoorI was on xchat till I discovered konversation07:03
admrl_http://download.berlios.de/konversation/konversation-0.19.tar.bz207:03
CellarDoorkonversation won me over07:03
admrl_ya i was usinx xchat to07:03
admrl_and i used bitchx or whatever for awhile07:03
admrl_but i dont remember what side the x and the bitch are on07:04
admrl_haha07:04
Dasnipa`mirc scripting lol thats like visual basic programming07:04
Dasnipa`just about as useless07:04
Dasnipa`perl irc scripts > *07:04
admrl_konversation .18 sucks for alot of channels07:05
Mronoyes it does07:05
Mronoomg yes ut does07:05
admrl_.19 is WAY better07:05
Mronoi ususally have like 15 or spo07:05
Mronohmm07:05
Mronojust finished dl07:05
admrl_its amazing07:06
admrl_we need a package for it07:06
admrl_but i dont know how to package debs07:06
Mronowoah07:07
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Mrononow that's a problem07:07
admrl_whats the problem..?07:07
Mronoguess what just crashed07:07
CellarDoorhow do I install .19 ?07:07
chavo.19 is in dapper already07:07
Mronokicker07:07
admrl_CellarDoor you need the source07:07
admrl_then you gotta extract it07:07
Dasnipa`or the dapper repo admrl_07:08
Mronocrap07:08
admrl_Dasnipa`: will it work fine..?07:08
Mronothere we go07:08
Mronolol07:08
Dasnipa`it most likely would... or you could wait 2 months for dapper stable to come out07:08
Mronoso what does this require07:09
Mronoor is it a clean install07:09
Mronobrb07:09
Mronoinstalling07:09
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CellarDoorbbl guys07:09
admrl_i love .1907:09
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chavoit's hott07:10
admrl_aseigo you use kubuntu..?07:10
aseigoadmrl_: on some machines here, yes07:10
admrl_i didnt expect to see you in this room07:10
admrl_alot more people use ubuntu than i thought07:11
Mronowhat are a few reason my wallpaper would dissapear07:12
admrl_if you xkill it i think it will disapear07:12
Mronohow do i get it back07:12
admrl_im pretty sure that happened to me once..07:12
admrl_lol i dont know i restarted07:13
Mronorestart x?07:13
Mronook07:13
admrl_ctrl-alt-backspace07:13
aseigoadmrl_: i think kubuntu has some real promise in areas other distros don't... i've been helping a regional IT support company move from being a windows support company to a kubuntu support company over the last year, actually07:13
Mronoi'll do that after i install konversatiuon07:13
aseigoadmrl_: which has been a rather interesting experience for everyone involved07:13
Mronohmm07:13
Mronovery neat07:13
admrl_ya it seems to07:13
aseigothey still do windows related work, obviously, but almost all their new work is coming in the form of linux, and they use kubuntu for smb/sme installs07:13
aseigothat and i like kubuntu too .. riddel's a great guy, and the distro is really taking shape07:14
admrl_thats cool i tried using kubuntu in my school but the only box was a p2 and it went really really slow07:14
aseigoMrono: nah07:14
admrl_haha07:14
aseigoMrono: just open a konsole and run kdesktop07:14
Mrononvm,07:15
Mronoit was just the wallpaper07:15
Mronoweird07:15
admrl_lol07:15
Mronobrb07:15
Mronorestarting x07:15
aseigoadmrl_: less important than proc is mem obviously =) though we had a box at SCALE the other week with 64MB of ram running KDE on debian that was doing quite nicely07:15
aseigoadmrl_: and that was a PII55007:15
aseigoadmrl_: not a speed demon, obviously07:15
admrl_ya definately07:16
admrl_i had that box running debian at one point07:16
admrl_it was soo slow and i thought setting up printers in kubuntu was alot easier then i found out about hplip07:17
admrl_cups and lp confused me07:18
admrl_ive only been using linux for a year and 2 months now tho07:19
Mronowoah07:22
Mronodifferent07:22
admrl_like it..?07:22
admrl_it needs to be in the backports07:22
tristanmikeI can't update my KDE menu using the Menu Editor, can someone lend a hand please?07:22
admrl_tristanmike what do you mean update your kde menu07:23
tristanmikelike add something to it or move something around07:23
Mronoyeah07:23
admrl_whats it say when you try to do it07:24
Mronoi wish they would drop that whole icon by the name07:24
MronoI want symbols07:24
tristanmikeit appears to work, but doesn't07:24
Mronolike V and O and ~ and & and @07:24
admrl_haha07:24
admrl_i wouldnt like symbols07:24
Mronoit's hard to tell07:24
tristanmikeI save the new configuration, it updates the system (though the progress bar just kinda blinks). but when I close, it's not there07:25
Mronocuz it doesn't support & and ~07:25
Mronoit just says those are O07:25
admrl_idk what to say it works to me the first time07:26
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tristanmikeyeah, it used to for me too07:28
Mronothis is so much better07:29
Ex-Cyberwhat's a good hex-capable calculator app?07:29
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admrl_ sudo apt-cache search hex calculator    ??07:30
Ex-Cyberapt-cache doesn't give recommendations07:32
Mronogrrrrr07:32
Mronothe thing i hate most about this client is that it doesn't support thr /hop command07:32
admrl_Ex-Cyber i gave you one :D07:33
admrl_but you didnt like it07:33
admrl_try google07:33
Ex-Cyberadmrl_: great job missing the point entirely07:36
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admrl_i did the best i could to help you07:37
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Ex-Cyberadmrl_: if I want Google, I know where to find it07:43
Mronohow do you make files hidden07:45
Ex-CyberMrono: filenames starting with a period are normally not displayed by most things07:46
Mronoyep07:46
Mronojust figured that out07:46
Ex-Cyberit's really just a convention though; there's nothing special about the files as far as the system is concerned07:47
Mronoit makes it easier on my eyes07:49
Mronosince there isn't a program files folder07:49
Mronoor a my documents07:49
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Ex-CyberMrono: your home directory essentially is "My Documents"07:53
Mronounfortunately so07:54
MronoI always had the my documents07:54
Mronothen I had another folder where my other stuff went07:54
Mronoshortcuts07:54
Mronoinstallers07:54
Mronoetc07:54
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Mronocya guys tomorrow08:04
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dmdmso eh08:04
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dmdmis there anything equivalent to "my computer" in kubuntu08:05
_giorgiohi08:05
dmdmyo08:07
dmdmi wanna know if the drives on this pc are being seen by linux08:07
dmdmand if i can access em08:07
stonedi deleted my kde main menu, how can i get it back.  where is the default kde menu file located, i can load it with kmenuedit, i can't seem to find it08:07
dmdmif i do 'mount' i cant realy decipher the outcome08:08
dmdmso need to know how to like go to a location where i can view drives08:08
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tristanmikeCan anyone help me with Kubuntu's Menu Editor please?08:10
dmdm!xgl08:10
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_mindspin! ask08:13
_mindspin!ask08:14
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_mindspintristanmike: ask your question, otherwise you'll get no other answer than "yes"08:19
tristanmike_mindspin, oh, sorry, menu wont take my edits08:19
tristanmikeedits08:19
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farous!tell bubba about repos08:20
_mindspinwhat did you edit? what do you get? grayed ou menu entry ? nothing happens?08:21
tristanmikelooks like it works, but nadda08:21
faroussorry wrong chan08:21
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robotgeekdmdm: try System Settings -> Disks and FileSystems08:21
dmdmnice one thanks man08:22
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_mindspintristanmike: all information you gave yet is that you did some changes and they did't work08:23
_mindspin!work08:23
ubotu_mindspin: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:23
tristanmikelol08:23
_mindspinwhat answer would you give if yoe were an expert?08:23
tristanmike_mindspin, it's simple, I try to make any change to the kubuntu menu, make the save, everything looks fine, exit, no change, go back, looks like how I left it08:23
_mindspintry to be more precise08:23
_mindspinwhat dou you mean with any change08:24
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tristanmikea move, create a new entry, anything, I've been at this for 2 or 3 hours now08:24
_mindspinmaybe the programs you wanna edit are not installed?08:24
tristanmikeplease, I'm not _that_ dumb08:25
_mindspinok08:25
tristanmikelol08:25
_mindspinhow should I know?08:25
tristanmikelol, fair enough08:25
CyberMadi got this error when installing kubuntu: Loading /install/vmlinuz isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4280, drive 9F. Boot Failed08:25
CyberMadwhat that happen?08:25
CyberMadusually i install this kubuntu (CD) with other computer is ok08:26
_mindspintristanmike: which kubuntu? you are logged in as user?08:26
_mindspinwhich kde?08:26
tristanmike5.10, Breezy, normal install, I am the only user, and there is only one user08:27
_mindspintry updating kde to 3.4.108:27
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tristanmikeI have "removed" my ~./kde folder and let it create another one, to no avail08:27
_mindspinit helped me in several ocasions like administration interface08:27
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tristanmikeok, I'm not _that_ proficent yet either, lol08:27
_mindspinmom08:28
tristanmikehaha08:28
daviddude, I just did a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper and it just worked 'out of the box', thet's really impressive imo! :)08:28
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_mindspintristanmike: add this to your sources.list08:29
_mindspindeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main08:29
bozcallie   Hi i finally got a clean install!!!  all i had to do was but another computer !! ; P08:29
_mindspinyou also need to do this: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg08:30
tristanmikehmm, I'm not really comfortable with upgrading right now...i'm still a little to fresh for something as extravagent as that08:30
_mindspinand this:sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg08:30
bozcallie buy, lol08:30
davidnow that I'm on dapper to I use upgrade or dist-upgrade when updating dapper?08:30
_mindspinuncomment the old entry for kde08:30
robotgeekdavid: you have to dist-upgrade from time to time on dapper08:30
_mindspinso open adept08:31
tristanmike...the old entry? what old entry, I have no kde entry in my sources.list?08:31
davidok thans robotgeek08:31
_mindspinedit your repos  by adding the above mentioned entry08:31
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_mindspinyou should have...08:31
_mindspin!dapper08:32
dmdmapt-get dist-upgrade would upgrade the whole ubuntu os to the latest one?08:32
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robotgeekdmdm: yes, but it is quite unstable, and you should not be using it :)08:32
dmdmshit..08:33
dmdm:P08:33
davidrobotgeek: can I do dist-upgrade in the gui of aptitude?08:33
bozhey, if anyones looking for a wireless card belkin fsb7010 is the sh*t!  right out of the box!08:33
robotgeekdavid: i dunno about aptitude, sorry. it should be possible, though08:33
robotgeekboz: what chipset does it have, ralink?08:33
bozyah08:33
davidrobotgeek: yeah I use aptitude dist-upgrade but the gui would me nicer, thanks anyway08:34
bozbut all i had to do was insert it, ubuntu asked me for the winxp driver and off we go08:34
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boz(after beating my brains out with a wpc1108:35
robotgeekboz: that ain't out of the box :)08:35
bozclose 'nuff, lol08:35
bozit was well worth the 32 bucks,  lol08:36
dmdmi have a belkin08:36
dmdmi cant get it to work08:36
dmdmhave to use wired lan :[08:36
tristanmike_mindspin, heh, actually, it seems that it's a permissions problem08:36
dmdmhow do i see what chipset it is, cant remember command, something liek ifconfig or iwconfig or something08:37
robotgeekdmdm: lspci08:37
tristanmike_mindspin, I was naughty and ran gedit way earlier today using sudo instead of kdesu, i wasn't thinking until now08:37
dmdmbroadcom 430608:37
robotgeek!ndiswrapper08:37
ubotuit has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:37
robotgeekdmdm: ^^08:37
dmdmah cool08:38
dmdmis it included in kubuntu?08:38
robotgeekdmdm: there's also a nice link at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs08:38
boz(thats why i love this channel ; ) )08:38
_mindspintristanmike: see thats why I asked "you are logged in as user?"08:38
tristanmike_mindspin, I'm logged in as user as per norm, but i was editing a file earlier, now that i recall, and i remember using sudo, not thinking, and didn't encounter a problem until the menu edit thing, that's why it seemed so mysterious08:40
_mindspini understood08:41
tristanmikeI just like to say it so I understand better08:41
_mindspindid you enable root log in on your system08:41
tristanmikeum, no08:41
tristanmikepretty sure i didn't08:42
_mindspinI never had this although heard about08:42
_mindspinI osfte fire up an sudo command on the terminal08:42
_mindspinoften08:42
_mindspinbut never had any issues...08:43
tristanmikeyeah, I get all the stupid ones08:43
davidas long as you don't start a graphical application it shouldn't be a problem08:43
_mindspinconsider a kde update, its real better integrated and more stable08:43
_mindspinah08:43
_mindspinI do it always on konsule, but no sometimes I star kynaptic08:44
_mindspinbut it works fine08:44
tristanmikeand since I was using gedit, poof there go my settings08:44
_mindspintake vi08:44
david_mindspin: it's saver to use kdesu to start graphical apps08:44
_mindspinI know menwhile08:44
_mindspinI just stated thad I myself never seen those problems08:45
davidok :)08:45
_mindspinIt was enouh work to get su out of my head to replace it with sudo08:46
_mindspinso I have to lear to use kdesudo08:46
bozi know i'll get my head bashed , but i install the automatix script and the new (in the last two weeks) is awsome08:46
_mindspinbut I'm doing half my work on konsole08:46
Mrono!alien08:46
ubotualien is, like, totally, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/08:46
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boz!automatix08:47
ubotuautomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.08:47
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davidwow, the new kdm is nice08:50
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dmdmis there a way to switch to gnome in kubuntu?08:53
gnumdkdmdm: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:53
dmdmdoes that require any prior knowledge or linux?08:55
dmdmor is it completly automated08:55
Mronocrap08:55
Mronohow do I install .jar08:55
MronoI just spent 20 min installing java08:56
Mronohad to convert it to .deb08:56
Mrono!jar08:56
ubotuMrono: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:56
Mronobtw08:56
Mronojust how do i upgrade my kde08:57
tristanmikethanx for the help _mindspin, going to bed now, g'night08:57
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Kamping_Kaiserdmdm: to make ubuntu into Kubuntu install Kubuntu-desktop08:58
Kamping_Kaiseryou can do it with apt- or adept08:58
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dmdmomg08:59
dmdmneeds about a hundred dependencies :P08:59
Kamping_Kaiserlol.l yep09:00
Kamping_Kaiserthat's what KDE is :)09:00
robotgeekso is gnome09:01
Kamping_Kaisersure.09:01
Kamping_Kaiserit wasnt a critism :/09:01
robotgeekKamping_Kaiser: :)09:01
Kamping_Kaiser:)09:02
dmdmeverything ive experianced about linux so far is basically one long string of dependancy packages09:03
Kamping_Kaiserrofl.09:04
Kamping_Kaiserthat's a good thing :)09:04
dmdmwhat do i type to make apt get all the dependancies?09:04
dmdmmust be a switch ?09:04
Kamping_Kaiserit does it itslef09:04
Kamping_Kaiser*itslf09:05
robotgeekitself, even09:05
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Kamping_Kaiser*itself09:05
dmdmDepends: zenity but it is not going to be installed09:05
dmdmsais that with em all09:05
Kamping_Kaiserdmdm: are you installing ubuntu or Kubuntu desktop?09:05
dmdmubuntu-desktop09:05
_hupp3lif i were to compile something do I just use sudo make?09:05
Kamping_Kaiseroh. you have to change your sources list (i expect)09:05
robotgeek!compile09:05
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware09:05
dmdmim using kde with kubuntu atm09:05
robotgeek_hupp3l: take a look at that, and you should never have to compile as root09:06
_hupp3lah thanx09:06
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dmdmhow do i get to /var/cache/apt09:09
dmdmi cant see it in the file system09:09
=== dmdm hello :o
dmdmare there any linux-adopt-a-noob channels anywhere?09:11
Kamping_Kaiserlol09:11
farousdmdm: you just type it in your konq09:11
farousaddress bar09:11
Kamping_Kaiserjust because you ask don't expect an instant reply09:11
dmdmi dont expect09:11
dmdmu lot are very helpfull09:11
_hupp3ldoes anyone here use a broadcom wireless land chipseT?09:11
Kamping_Kaiserdmdm: :)09:12
dmdmim just one impatient mofo09:12
farous_hupp3l: land wireless !09:12
farousi have a broadcom here09:12
_hupp3ldid you set it up in linux?09:12
bozbrOADCOM <<<09:12
farous_hupp3l: ndiswrapper09:12
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_hupp3lurrggg :(09:13
_hupp3lim having trouble using fwcutter09:13
dmdmi dont have permission to delete stuff :|09:13
robotgeek_hupp3l: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx09:13
dmdmhow do i let konq know im root09:13
farousdmdm: type sudo infront of your command09:13
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dmdmim using konqueror09:14
dmdmok09:14
_hupp3lrobotgeek: i would like to use the linux drivers though09:14
dmdmhow do i get to /var/cache/apt through the konsole09:14
robotgeek_hupp3l: look at the dapper section below09:14
Kamping_Kaisercd /var/cache/apt/archives09:14
bozuse the xp driver, lol, believe me09:14
_hupp3lahh ok thank you09:15
_hupp3lwhy boz09:15
robotgeek_hupp3l: are you on dapper?09:15
_hupp3lyes i am09:15
robotgeek_hupp3l: ah nice, the driver works great!09:15
_hupp3lyeah i had it running a while ago09:15
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_hupp3lthen i re did my pc and now i struggle with th fwcutter part09:16
_hupp3land yeah it works great09:16
_hupp3lit even works with kismet09:16
dmdm!del09:16
ubotudmdm: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:16
dmdm!delete command09:16
ubotudmdm: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:16
boz_huppa31: plug your broadcom card in and go to system>administration.windows wireless drivers09:17
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dumkopfIs there a way to get K's device handling services to mount my USB hard drive as /media/usbhd1 instead of /media/sda1 ?09:18
Kaiser_Awaynot without some serious work09:19
dumkopfi wrote a udev rule to handle the device naming09:19
dumkopfbleh.09:19
boz_huppa3l: i had a linksys wpc11 and i gave it to the neighbor and bought a belkin card,  after banging my head against the "Fridge"09:19
robotgeekboz: the broadcom device now has "native" linux drivers09:20
robotgeekboz: so does your card :)09:20
dumkopfsee, all my music is on this external drive, since I use primarily a laptop.  I need the device to be consistently mounted in the same place so it doesn't bork with amarok's collection db09:20
bozlol, i know i'm just so happy after fighting the linksys card i could pee myself! ; )09:21
[Vampis] cant you just remount it after it has been found by the system ?09:22
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_hupp3lrobotgeek: do they have fwcutter in a repositry?09:22
robotgeek_hupp3l: yes, fwcutter will be in the download of the driver. Read wiki :)09:22
dmdmdoes the broadcom 4306 have native linux drivers now?09:22
_hupp3lnah but the wiki says use svn09:22
dumkopf[Vampis] : well, the point is that remounting it adds an additional step the the process :)  i could by all means just use pmount for it and it shows up automatically under /media09:23
_hupp3land i dont have svn installed09:23
_hupp3ldmdm yes09:23
dmdmcool09:23
dmdmso my card should be installed?09:23
[Vampis] dumkopf: if you  make your on bash-script you would just have to make one step :)09:23
dmdmi dont need to use ndiswrapper?09:23
_hupp3lno you have to extract firmware09:23
_hupp3lnot anymore09:23
_hupp3lhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx09:23
dmdmwhat can i do to make this thing work?09:24
_hupp3lread the last section09:24
dmdmthankyou09:24
robotgeekdmdm: if you are breezy, read the everything but the last section09:24
dmdmbreezy, ive heard this expression, i presume thats the name for the latest release?09:24
_hupp3lo yeah sorry forgot to mention09:24
_hupp3lno dapper is09:25
dmdmbreezy is what?09:25
[Vampis] well, dapper isnt finished yet so09:25
robotgeekdmdm: the current version is breezy, and the next release is dapper09:25
bozrobotgeek :  where were ya when i needed ya? lol09:25
[Vampis] dmdm: Breezy Badger. Ubuntu 5.1009:25
[Vampis] the latest STABLE version of ubuntu09:25
dmdmah so its the current stable release09:25
[Vampis] exactly09:25
robotgeekboz: hmm, you did not say my name :)09:25
[Vampis] Dapper will be released as stable in april09:26
bozlol09:26
dmdm[08:25]  <_hupp3l> o yeah sorry forgot to mention < pls go on :>09:26
[Vampis] Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.0409:26
_mindspin!dapper09:27
bozlol hope they can get my rio working...09:27
_hupp3ldmdm do you have dapper?09:27
dumkopfmy rio isn't mass storage :(09:27
dmdmyeer09:27
dmdmflight 409:27
_hupp3lwell then get the fwcutter program09:27
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dmdmapt-get install fwcutter ?09:28
_hupp3luhm no you gotta get it from the berlios site09:28
bozdumkopf: amen brother, thats the only thing keeping from wiping windoze09:28
_hupp3lalso you have to get the .sys driver from here http://sidulus.textdrive.com/bcmwl5sys.zip09:28
_hupp3lhttp://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=454709:29
_hupp3lfwcutter from here09:29
dumkopfboz:  someone will write a driver for amarok, i betcha09:29
dumkopfboz:  the media device handling in 1.4 so far is really spiffy09:29
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robotgeek_hupp3l: do you know if all the firmwares are same, like airport extreme/something else09:29
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_hupp3luhm no they arnt09:30
_hupp3llook in the fwcutter readme for a list of drivers09:30
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robotgeekoh well, my airport extreme firmware works great :)09:31
bozdumkopf :seriously thats the only depressing thing about changing over so far. callie really helped me figure outit wasn't me : ) or i'da been lost.  this channel is so great09:31
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_hupp3lrobotgeek what version of fwcutter did you use?09:31
_hupp3ldid you by any chance use the newest one09:32
_hupp3l?09:32
robotgeek_hupp3l: hmm, not sure. i got it from svn a couple of weeks back.09:32
robotgeek_hupp3l: 2006-02-12 is the exact date09:33
_hupp3lhow did you get svn to work in ubuntu?09:33
dumkopfboz:  well, i have a Rio Chiba.  the non-mass-storageness of it frustrates the hell out of me, but even though i've got an ipod now i'll put some energy into seeing just how much work it takes to write an amarok plugin for it09:33
_hupp3lo then you didnt get the newest ones09:33
[Vampis] exit09:33
_hupp3land did you compile it as root?09:33
dumkopfboz:  if it turns out to be doable, i'll do it09:34
robotgeek_hupp3l: what do you mean, get svn to work?09:34
boz<<<nitrus : (09:34
_hupp3lwell svn isnt working in ubuntu for me right now09:35
bozdumkopf: and it does'nt help that rio is belly up09:35
dumkopfboz:  one of the drawbacks is probably going to be that amarok's media device management relies wholly on k's media device framework.  if k can't make sense of it, there's little hope for amarok09:36
_hupp3ldammit i am doing something wrong09:36
dumkopfboz:  RIP Rio, killed by Apple in the conservatory with an Ipod09:36
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bozyup, i can get everything to work from command line, though, thats what makes it soooo frustrating09:36
_hupp3ldid you just compile it and then typed fwcutter -w etc?09:37
dumkopfboz:  got an email address?  if I come up with anything I'll shoot you an email09:37
boz(with rioutil)09:37
dumkopfboz:  it's too late to start on anything tonight, but I'll bang my head against it tomorrow after my hawt date09:38
bozbozinsek@budweiser.com.  please do, lol09:38
_hupp3lO nevermind09:38
_hupp3li got it09:38
bozdumkoph: it would save me driving to the office to reload the mp3 player, lol09:40
robotgeek_hupp3l: sorry, my wireless connection crapped out09:44
_hupp3lhaha dont worry i almost got it09:46
_hupp3lthx though09:46
_hupp3lhello09:47
_hupp3lanyone here?09:47
_hupp3llo lo09:47
_hupp3llo lo09:47
dmdmwine can open .exe files so i can extract the contents right?09:51
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jasperi'm having trouble with my wireless nic....it shows up fine but i can't enable it....any suggestions09:52
robotgeekjasper, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto09:52
jasperbeen there done that.....i'm not getting anywhere09:53
jasperi've been at this for 24 hours now lol09:53
robotgeekjasper: what chipset, card etc?09:55
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jasperbroadcom 431809:55
llukaxhey does anyone know if wine works on powerpc yet?09:55
robotgeekllukax: hmm, might work, too slow, i guess09:56
jaspershows up as eth0, shows a signal, but won't enable09:56
robotgeekjasper: are you using ndiswrapper?09:56
llukaxim trying to install libfst09:56
jasperyes09:56
llukaxto use windows vst plugins, linux audio09:56
robotgeekllukax: no clue, sorry09:56
jasperit autodetected it, but didn't work, so config'd ndis09:56
llukaxk thanks anyways tho! :)09:57
robotgeekllukax: what about bochs or something like that09:57
llukaxlibfst works with wine :/ so i guess i have no choice09:57
llukaxproblem is i cant even find libfst for ppc09:57
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dmdmok10:07
dmdmi opened a self extracting .exe file with wine10:07
dmdmwhere would the files go to?10:07
llukaxim trying to compile , but im having a problem, i get this error i get this error configure: error: Library requirements (jack >= 0.91.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them10:08
llukaxbut my version of jack is updated10:08
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robotgeekllukax: you need the -dev libraries10:09
cyblivioushey guys, what MMORPG for linux can you suggest? Kinda tired of these linux games, penguins and all.10:09
llukaxfor jack?10:09
dmdmi opened a self extracting .exe file with wine10:10
dmdmwhere would the files go to?10:10
cyblivious~/.kde/wine/drive_c?10:10
llukaxthanx that got me over that part10:11
llukaxnow it wants gtk+2.010:11
llukax:P10:11
llukaxone sec10:11
llukaxwhat do i install in synaptic?10:12
llukaxkoz there are like 10 of them10:13
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robotgeekubotu: tell llukax about compile10:24
robotgeeklib-gtk2.0-dev or something simliar :)10:25
robotgeekllukax: libgtk2.0-dev10:25
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dmdmsudo ndiswrapper -m10:31
dmdmfor conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do10:31
dmdmsudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile10:31
dmdmdone10:31
dmdmwhen i do that i get 5 permission denied lines10:32
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robotgeekdmdm: cause you are trying to write to $conffile, but you dont have permission10:33
robotgeekcat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' | sudo tee $conffile10:34
samouraHELLO how can i have linux and window xp i have tryid reboot the computer and than delete and than bios advanced and than bios secounse but i cant change it to boot from the cd help please <S10:34
dmdmwhat do i do instead10:35
samourahelp please i want to uninstall linux and than install window xp and than reinstall window xp how do i uninstall linux }10:36
samoura?10:36
dmdmcheers robotgeek10:36
samourawhat}10:36
robotgeekdmdm: :)10:36
samoura?10:36
samourarobootgeek help me please10:37
robotgeeksamoura: i'm reading, one sec10:37
robotgeeksamoura: why can't you change it to boot from cd?10:37
samourai don't know it wont let me10:38
samourahow do i uninstall this linux help please10:39
robotgeeksamoura: moment10:40
robotgeeksamoura: it is very difficult/impossible if you can't boot from cd10:43
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samourai reboot the computer and than i press delete and than password and i go in advanced bios featuers than i can't do boot from cd the up and down keys doesn't work nothing keys working just the esc10:45
samouramaybe reinstall kubuntu linux ?:S10:46
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samourarobotgeek Uninstall the  bootloader (generally grub) from the Master Boot Record (MBR). To do so, boot under DOS and run the fdisk /mbr command. can i do this}10:48
samoura?10:48
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muzzleI have to install some SVC program. Which one should I use?10:49
muzzleand how do I set it up?10:50
muzzleWe have the server. Just need to set a client up10:50
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llukaxhey does anyone know how to install wine?10:52
muzzlellukax: apt-get it10:52
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llukaxim on a ppc10:53
llukaxi cant apt it10:53
bimberillukax: no wine for ppc :|10:53
llukax:( crap10:54
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dmdmhmm10:57
dmdmhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx10:57
dmdmive followed this guide to the t but the lights dont come on and network reports disabled wireless network device. can anyone help me?10:58
muzzleI hate there isn't any CVS guides10:59
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samourahello i found this how to remove this ubuntu but i don't under stand it can any one help to under stand this11:00
samoura1. Boot to MS-DOS, and then type the following:11:00
samoura fdisk /mbr11:00
samoura 2. Restart your computer.11:00
samoura 3. Delete the linux partiton using fdisk, recreate it, and format it in windows.11:00
samoura11:00
samoura and you're done.11:00
dmdmu dont understand?11:00
dmdmwhat part11:00
Necroni just installed kubuntu and just did the initial restart (after booting from cd) .. now it hangs at "Ok, booting the kernel. Loading, please wait ..." Any idea what i can do?11:00
dmdmmaybe eh, wait?: )11:00
samourai don't under stand how to do 1. Boot to MS-DOS}11:01
samoura?11:01
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samouradoes that mean terminal program and teyp 1. Boot to MS-DOS?11:02
dmdmid imagine it means putting ms dos on a boot floppy and booting that11:03
dmdmbut im a noob so i dunno11:03
dmdmi wasent aware linux had anything to do with dos11:03
samouradoes that mean terminal program and teyp 1. Boot to MS-DOS?11:03
samourahow do i put it there}11:04
samoura? i just want to get read of this linux and get back to window xp11:04
dmdmah11:05
dmdmwell11:05
dmdmgo to www.bootdisk.com11:05
dmdmdownload the win98se bootdisk11:05
dmdmthen open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install wine11:05
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samourai but i want xp :S11:06
Ilokaasusamoura:  what are u trying to do ?11:06
dmdmrun the downloaded bootdisk through wine and insert a floppy to write, once its done leave the floppy in the drive and reboot11:06
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samouraunninstall linux and than install window xp11:06
dmdmthen format it11:06
Ilokaasuwell u can just stuck winxp in your cdrom and install it ?11:06
dmdmlol11:07
dmdmtrue!11:07
samourai can't11:07
Ilokaasuwheres the problem :P ?11:07
samourait won't let me :S11:07
dmdmwhat happens?11:07
Ilokaasuwhat does it say ?11:07
samourai have tryd to boot from the cd but it doesn't work11:07
Ilokaasudoes it start the installer ?11:08
Ilokaasudo u have boot on cdrom enabled in bios ?11:08
dmdmis your cd drive in the bootlist in the bios11:08
dmdmbefore your harddrive11:08
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samourayess11:09
dmdmits the rounds isent it11:10
samouraroundS?11:10
samouradmdm where can i install win xp from a web?11:11
dmdmdid it work11:11
dmdmyou cant11:11
dmdmeh11:11
dmdmo_O11:11
dmdmdude11:11
dmdmeither boot the cd or its damaged11:11
Ilokaasusamoura: i can give u simple orders how u get your windows back if u just listen and answer11:11
dmdmso download or buy another one11:11
samourahttp://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm from there ? can i not install it11:12
dmdmno11:12
dmdmi was just pointing you toward a means to format your disk11:12
samouraokei11:12
samoura:P11:13
samourathanks11:13
dmdmbut if u boot the winxp install cd you cna partition/format with that11:13
samouranice11:13
samouraokei can you help me11:13
samoura}11:13
samourato do this11:13
dmdmso what i was telling you was esentialy worthless11:13
dmdmsorry11:13
dmdm:)11:13
tylermmm, dapper is running so well now.11:13
tylerso many improvements in the last week.11:14
Ilokaasuif the cd wont autostart u must check your bios bootlist samoura11:14
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dmdmbeen fiddling with linux all night11:16
dmdmhavent actually completed anything ive tried to do, but its been a good learning experiance as always11:17
dmdmmaybe one day ill install a driver or something hehg :C11:17
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_samoura!nvidia11:21
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ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:21
_samoura!help11:21
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fedorafanis anyone here?11:24
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Ilokaasuye11:26
kubby510hi11:27
dmdminstalled gnome desktop enviroment and some of it had error status 127?? whats this mean11:30
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pointyI need a wireless netcard for a desktop PC, which card would you guys recommend? I know that linux wireless support isn't exactly great, but are there any cards that have good open source drivers?11:34
dmdmhow do i switch desktop enviroment11:35
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dmdmhm11:39
dmdmive got a ubuntu 5.10 cd here, was wondering if its possible to install that and upgrade it to the latest flight using apt-get by any chance?11:40
kubby510i hate ubuntu11:42
kubby510this thing does not work at all :(11:42
kubby510its locked at "Checking battery state" now, when i am trying to boot up my computer11:43
Ilokaasukubby510:11:44
Ilokaasui had same problem yesterday11:44
kubby510what did u do?11:44
Ilokaasuu have to reconfigure your xorg.conf11:44
kubby510ok11:44
kubby510i need to use recovery mode i think11:44
Ilokaasui just now dont remember the command..it was something like dpkg  - -11:44
kubby510i read something about that11:45
kubby510its a little config application right?11:45
bimberi!xorg11:45
ubotuxorg is, like, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:45
Ilokaasudpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:45
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Ilokaasudamn u were faster :P11:45
dmdmive got a ubuntu 5.10 cd here, was wondering if its possible to install that and upgrade it to the latest flight using apt-get by any chance?11:46
kubby510lol11:46
bimberiIlokaasu: only cause i used the bot :)11:46
kubby510thanks people11:46
Ilokaasuyeah, i dont know the bot commands :P11:46
kubby510im gonna try this right now11:46
kubby510:)11:46
bimberidmdm: yes you can.  Although the upgrade download would probably be nearly as big as a flight4 download11:47
bimberi!flight411:47
ubotuflight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight411:47
dmdmok11:47
JUDGEhello11:47
dmdmis there anyway to make my current install clean?11:47
dmdmlike as if it was new11:48
dmdmno updatse/packages etc11:48
dmdmcos ive fucked it up and used lots of packages from wierd repsoitories11:48
kubby510its asking me to choose my x server driver11:49
kubby510i have a nvidia geforce11:49
kubby510theres one option that says nv11:50
kubby510is that it?11:50
bimberikubby510: yes, unless you can see 'nvidia'11:50
bimberikubby510: btw, if this doesn't work, retry and choose 'vesa' at this point11:50
JUDGEhi all.. running new install kubuntu. I was wondering of there is a way to make internet browsing faster. I'm really new with linux so not sure how to configure my network to work better.11:51
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kubby510sweet i think that worked :)11:58
kubby510and that program is the same one that i was afraid i was gonna have to use to configure my video card11:58
kubby510so that should be all working now :)11:58
kubby510chat rooms rule!11:59
kubby510lol11:59
kubby510now maybe someone can help me figure out why i cant get onto the internet... :(11:59
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Ilokaasucheck your network connections12:01
kubby510eh12:01
kubby510i dont think i want to use ubuntu12:01
Ilokaasuwhys that12:01
kubby510if its this hard to get running i can only imagine what its gonna be like to maintain...12:01
maehow can i specify a literal newline with ehco12:02
maeecho *12:02
Ilokaasukubby510:  i had like 4 problems in the beginning (3weeks ago)...then i solved them and no problems after tat :P12:02
Ilokaasuthat12:02
kubby510the battery problem is still happening12:02
Ilokaasutbh its harder to maintain windows that this :P12:02
kubby510i chose the correct driver for my video card12:03
Ilokaasutry to add "vesa" where u chose videocard12:03
kubby510and input the monitor12:03
kubby510add?12:03
Ilokaasuwelll retry that setup program12:03
kubby510like just tyupe that in?12:03
Ilokaasuthen choose vesa insted of your videocard12:03
kubby510what is vesa?12:04
Ilokaasuits some "normal" driver or something, i dont know so well12:04
kubby510hm12:04
kubby510well i want to get the most ouot of my hardware12:04
bimberi!nvidia12:05
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:05
kubby510i guess i could at least see how it acts if i get it running12:05
kubby510lol12:05
Ilokaasuyou can add your deriver later12:05
Ilokaasudriver12:05
kubby510yea12:05
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kubby510k im taking another shot at it12:05
bimberikubby510: ^^^ those instructions are for installing the nvidia drivers12:05
bimberikubby510: (the ubotu post above)12:05
kubby510how do i specify the PCI bus location?12:06
kubby510oh cool thanks12:06
kubby510i mean12:06
kubby510how do i find out what the pci bus location for my vid card is?12:06
kubby510do i have to reboot or can i just let it guess?12:06
luite_try lspci12:07
Ilokaasuin console then, not in the setup :P12:07
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luite_uhm, yes, that would probably work better ;)12:08
bimberikubby510: iirc it's a good guesser :)12:08
bimberikubby510: or you might be able to ctrl-alt-f2 to get to another virtual console to type lspci12:08
bimberikubby510: ctrl-alt-f1 to get back :)12:09
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_b!wmv12:15
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:15
kubby510nope its still getting stuck at "checking battery state"12:17
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callieboz?12:27
callieyou there12:27
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cmvoHi! Anybody besides me having random system lockups on dapper flight 3 and 4 (bug #32055, P4, i875, agp radeon)?12:27
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kubby510nope its still getting stuck at "checking battery state"12:31
kubby510does anyone know what its doing when its running that?12:31
kubby510are there any settings i can mess with?12:31
kubby510or...12:31
kubby510does anyone know where i can find out some options to put in when i install ubuntu so that i can configure these things ahead of time?12:32
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calliei just realised that i've had my ram clock speed set wrong all along12:58
calliedoh12:59
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itahi all01:12
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sylvian00How do I solve this? "Qt installation not detected. Set $QTDIR correctly and rerun."01:15
Hobbseeinstall kde-devel01:15
Hobbsee!info kde-devel01:16
ubotukde-devel: (the K Desktop Environment development files and modules), section universe/kde, is extra. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB01:16
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Infectohellp01:24
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Infectocan some on tell me01:24
Infectoiv got inafff :(01:24
Infectoxinerama + ati 9600 mobility01:24
Infecto+ kde01:24
Infectodont wont to work01:24
Infectothe problem is i cant set main window at ful size01:25
Infectoi see only a part of screen01:25
Infectobut when i run only xinit it works ok01:25
Infectowhat can be the problem ?01:25
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SkrotFFSHi. Anyone using XGL with Compiz and KDE?01:26
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Infectojust tel me how to enable in kcontrol->peripherals->Display01:31
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SkrotFFShm. Just dist-upgraded with dapper and now all fonts are weird, and widgets seem to take more space than usual. Any clue what that might be all about?01:47
HobbseeTonio_: ping01:48
Tonio_Hobbsee: ?01:48
Tonio_ok01:48
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HobbseeTonio_: thought you might like the feedback from SkrotFFS01:48
Tonio_SkrotFFS: did you changed the default font size ?01:49
SkrotFFSnope. I did now though, since 8 is more suiting than 5 with this change01:49
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SkrotFFSDPI is the same by the way01:49
Tonio_SkrotFFS: dpi should actually be set to 9601:49
Tonio_and fonts are now 9 by default01:50
SkrotFFSAlways? Isn't that calculated from the resolution?01:50
Tonio_SkrotFFS: nope01:50
Tonio_screen dpi is, but not xft.dpi01:50
SkrotFFSI see. My DPI is 125x126 according to xinfocenter01:50
SkrotFFSerr, kinfocenter*01:50
Tonio_this is because we had lots of issues on that point, and most distros including ubuntu is fixing the xft.dpi for that reason01:50
Tonio_let me compare01:50
SkrotFFSOn a 1280x800 display01:50
Tonio_I have the same01:51
SkrotFFS125x126?01:51
SkrotFFSOr 1280x800?01:51
Tonio_128001:51
SkrotFFSokay01:51
SkrotFFSThings look much better with font size 8 by the way01:52
Tonio_SkrotFFS: the problem is not dpi but xft.dpi01:52
Tonio_SkrotFFS: default is now 901:52
SkrotFFSokay :)01:52
Tonio_xft.dpi + fonts sets to 9 should give exactly the same size on all computers01:52
Tonio_is you set that to 5, you changed the kubuntu default, that's the reason you got the problem ;) and that's why that was my first question in fact01:53
SkrotFFSI see. I've used 5 since I started using dapper, and I haven't done a dist-upgrade for about two-three weeks now before today when it suddenly changed the look :)01:54
SkrotFFSSo I guess the changes was made in that area of time?01:54
Tonio_it has been changed yesterday :)01:55
SkrotFFSah :)01:55
Tonio_don't forget that dapper is in developpment so things can be completly changed from one day to another01:55
SkrotFFSI know :)01:55
Tonio_that's why the best thing to do is to keep your profile unset01:55
Tonio_keep all you can to it's default value01:55
Infectohmm i found kde-guidance but it is no redy to use01:57
Infectocan some one help me with runing this ?01:57
SkrotFFSTonio_: I see. What's your part in kunutu if you don't mind me asking? :)01:58
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HobbseeTonio_: he's modifying the kubuntu-default-settings package, at the moment01:59
Infectoreset01:59
Tonio_SkrotFFS: I'm doing a few things, packaging, and diverse stuff, but yes, my actuall priority is the desktop configuration02:00
SkrotFFSI see :)02:00
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Tonio_for example the new kdm theme, all aplications default config etc......02:01
Tonio_but only kde stuff, I don't work at all on the ubuntu side :)02:01
SkrotFFSah, that's an importnt piece of work :)02:01
SkrotFFSimportant*02:01
SkrotFFSAs I figure you want kubuntu to look it's best when it ships02:02
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Tonio_I would like kubuntu to require about no config out of the box02:02
Tonio_and that was one of breezy's main problems in my view02:02
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SkrotFFSIndeed. Any way I can help?02:03
Tonio_but there is still so much to do02:03
Tonio_SkrotFFS: suggest me things :)02:03
Tonio_if there are things that should be configured by default and that are not set actually, that can be one02:03
Tonio_s/one/done02:03
SkrotFFSOkay, I would probably know next time I install from scratch, since I usually spend 1-2 hours tweaking :)02:04
Tonio_and if you want to contribute by yourself, of of course can02:04
SkrotFFSBut I must admit, changing from debian (with KDE buildt from source) to kubutnu was a mind blower02:04
Tonio_SkrotFFS: that's the problem ;)02:04
Tonio_I force myself to work with  default profile to search for config lacks02:04
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SkrotFFSnew profile = new user with a clean ~/.kde?02:05
Hobbseeyeah02:06
Al-Dajadoes kubuntu have root?02:06
SkrotFFSyes02:06
jpatrickAl-Daja: not by default02:06
SkrotFFSBut it does have it, if you set a root password02:07
Hobbsee!root02:07
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:07
Al-Dajai'm go to adept i tell's only the root can install or unistall things02:08
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samourahello i was trying to install dapper and allweys stop at 60% on server-xorg why02:17
samoura?02:17
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samoura!nvidia02:18
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:18
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Tonio_Al-Daja: do not simply launch "adept"02:19
Tonio_the K menu entry uses kdesu adept02:20
Tonio_that's the reason you are prompted to be logged as root02:20
Al-DajaTonio_: already done02:20
Al-Dajaplz let me dance02:20
Al-Dajalol02:20
Tonio_and you still get that error message ?02:21
Al-Dajanop02:21
Al-Dajasudo adept02:21
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Al-Dajachanged my root pass02:21
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samourahello i was trying to install dapper and allweys stop at 60% on server-xorg why?02:22
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samourahello i was trying to install dapper and allweys stop at 60% on xserver-xorg why?02:23
zizahi, what's the easiest way to change the pointing location of a symbolic link? intuitively i tried to do that in the properties dialog, but apparently Konqueror doesn't want to be user friendly because it doesn't let me edit the pointing location...02:25
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samoura!nvidia02:26
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736802:26
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_princehhhhhhhhhhhh02:29
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admrlthis is the quietest ive ever seen his channel02:56
zizathen please be so kind an answer my question above :)02:56
xwolf-lol02:57
admrlwhat did you ask02:57
zizawhat's the easiest way to change the pointing location of a symbolic link? intuitively i tried to do that in the properties dialog, but apparently Konqueror doesn't want to be user friendly because it doesn't let me edit the pointing location...02:57
admrlziza like a .desktop02:58
admrlopen it in kate02:58
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admrl:) i dont know the correct syntax like if your wanting to run sh shell.sh in your ~/shellscripts02:58
zizai tried that, but it opens the file the link points to :(02:59
admrlbad syntax maybe02:59
zizai'll try with the shell then02:59
admrlmaybe change it to sh ~/shellscripts/script.sh03:00
admrlsomething like that03:00
admrlbut that will only work when running as the user thats home its in03:00
zizaare we talking about the same thing?03:00
admrli dont know03:00
admrllol03:00
zizathe problem is, i have some symbolic links to qt applications in /usr/local/bin03:01
admrloh03:01
zizai compiled a new version of qt (4.1.1)03:01
admrli have no clue03:01
admrlwow! im to scared to do that03:01
admrllol03:01
zizanow i want those links to point to the new dir :)03:01
zizawhy? it's absolutely easy hehe :D03:02
zizaok, thanks anyway for bothering :)03:03
SkrotFFSDoesn't ffmpeg in kubuntu dapper have support for aac?03:03
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zizaSkrotFFS: as far as i know dapper uses gstreamer 0.10.3 (or was it 0.13?) as the default multimedia library throughout all applications...03:05
SkrotFFSWhat does that have to do with ffmpeg+aac? I'm trying to encode, not decode03:05
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zizai don't know much about these things anyway, lol, just gave you an answer from the top of my head so that you don't feel frustrated by the silence of this channel :D03:08
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admrlziza thats what i was trying to do with you i had no clue what your talking about03:10
admrl:D03:10
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zizalol03:11
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CellarDoor[01:13]  <CellarDoor> I've never understood how to get that side bit up in konqueror that shows previews and file info in the left panel whilst leaving the normal folder view in the right panel... help ?03:14
CellarDoorIve just got a simple icon view03:14
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_bive installed w32codec pack kaffine shows pink jitter and mplayer crashes when playing wmv have i missed something ?03:20
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samourahello does anyone knows about a web that sees all the command in terminal?03:24
samouralike sudo or some like that a list of terminal commands03:24
samoura!help03:25
samoura!nvidia03:25
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:25
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m_1unahello everybody03:28
xwolf-sup03:29
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jpatrickxwolf-: not much, just fixing bugs03:30
m_1unajpatrick: you fix bugs, I crash03:32
xwolf-that's murphy acting03:32
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zizasamoura: pressing tab twice in a blank command line will display all commands available on your system03:33
zizabut that's not very helpful, instead use "apropos" and some key words to find a command that fits your query03:34
samouratwice?03:34
samourawhat key is twice03:34
samourai am from iceland03:34
m_1unayes, two times03:34
zizayep :)03:34
m_1unayes, two times = twice03:34
MetaMorfoziS:)03:34
samoura:P03:34
samourai thought twice is a key :D03:35
zizano, it's an adverb :P03:35
MetaMorfoziSwhere is the any key:)03:35
m_1unado not worry03:35
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xwolf-lol03:35
m_1unaXD03:36
MetaMorfoziSthis is an international room:)03:36
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m_1unaMetaMorfoziS: where are you from?03:36
MetaMorfoziS^^03:36
MetaMorfoziSHungary03:36
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m_1unaI thouth you were kidding03:37
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samourais ubuntu 5.10 GNOME better than  kbuntu 5.10 KDM?03:37
MetaMorfoziSm_1una:  yes:)03:37
samourareally?03:38
MetaMorfoziSsamoura: i don't think so:)03:38
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m_1unaubuntu 5.10 is an earlier version03:38
Chousukehm03:38
MetaMorfoziSbut what you want? gnome is very simple and elegant...03:38
m_1unapardon03:38
MetaMorfoziSearlier?03:38
m_1unamy fever03:38
Chousukeyou can't compare gnome to kdm. :P03:38
MetaMorfoziSnot 5.10 the newest stable?03:38
m_1unai am writting silly things03:38
m_1unaI do not discriminate03:39
m_1unaits like politics03:39
MetaMorfoziS:)03:39
zizayep Gnome is very simple, in fact it's simple as is requiring an additional application to EDIT menu items!03:39
MetaMorfoziSyes, kde has menu editor.03:39
m_1unawhen people divide, they loose strength03:39
MetaMorfoziSand kde has a very big design development community: kde-look.org03:40
MetaMorfoziSokay, gnome-look.org03:40
MetaMorfoziSbut kde is nicer than gnome:)03:40
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m_1unaMetaMorfoziS: do you really think arguing about kde and gnome helps sl?03:41
MetaMorfoziSarguing?03:41
MetaMorfoziSsorry i don'T understand ^^03:41
MetaMorfoziSsl?03:41
MetaMorfoziSokay, i have the "arguable" meaning, but what is sl?03:42
m_1unasorry sl is the spanish initials for Software LIbre =FreeSoftware03:42
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m_1unaI am Spaniard03:43
MetaMorfoziS:) np03:43
zizasay OSS = Open Source Software :P03:43
MetaMorfoziSwhy "sl" needs help?03:43
MetaMorfoziSi think something lost in translation03:43
m_1unait doesn't, it is good enouth03:43
m_1unaleave it03:44
MetaMorfoziSok:)03:44
m_1unaI am too ill to talk03:44
MetaMorfoziSsometimes, detto:D03:44
m_1unadetto?03:44
MetaMorfoziSit's not international?03:44
MetaMorfoziSdetto in hungarian means equal03:44
MetaMorfoziS:D03:44
MetaMorfoziSsame..03:44
MetaMorfoziS.ditto!03:45
MetaMorfoziS:))03:45
MetaMorfoziShttp://dict.sztaki.hu/dict_search.php?L=HUN%3AENG%3AEngHunDict&O=HUN&flash=&E=1&sid=026c633fdd4b9370c3499b46598d4e8d&in_form=1&W=detto&M=2&P=0&C=1&A=1&T=103:45
m_1una=03:45
MetaMorfoziSyes:DD03:45
noteventimeI think ubuntu is better then kubuntu but KDE is better than Gnome so i stick with kubuntu03:45
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noteventimeHow do i get FireFox to use artS, or any other kind of software mixing because i get no sound in Firefox03:46
MetaMorfoziSthe only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the window manager:)03:46
samourawhere can i get  xfce ?03:46
samourai want to install it03:46
MetaMorfoziSapt-get?03:46
noteventimexubuntu :03:46
noteventime)03:46
MetaMorfoziS:D03:46
noteventimegnome is better integrated in ubuntu than KDE in kubuntu03:47
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MetaMorfoziSok, may, but i don't know:)03:47
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop03:47
samouraReading package lists... Done03:47
samouraBuilding dependency tree... Done03:47
samouraE: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop03:47
MetaMorfoziStry adept03:47
MetaMorfoziSor synaptic03:47
m_1unanoteventime: I agree03:47
MetaMorfoziSQt: 3.3.403:48
MetaMorfoziSKDE: 3.5.103:48
MetaMorfoziSkde-config: 1.003:48
MetaMorfoziSahye03:48
MetaMorfoziS:DD03:48
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MetaMorfoziS./kdeversion03:48
MetaMorfoziSm_1una:03:49
MetaMorfoziS[15:48:42]  [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )03:49
MetaMorfoziSso03:49
MetaMorfoziSadept is the kde's package manager03:49
MetaMorfoziSsynaptic is the gnome pm03:49
samourahello where can i download xubuntu-desktop? help please03:49
m_1unayes but I am learning so I like to do it in manual03:49
m_1unaI love my terminal03:49
admrlsamoura isnt that a metapackage or whatever for xfce..?03:50
MetaMorfoziSokay03:50
noteventimejust search xfce in adept or synaptic03:50
MetaMorfoziSi'm idnetified myself:D03:50
admrlsudo apt-cache search xfce03:50
noteventimeHow do i get Firefox to use software mixer ... :'(03:50
noteventimeI get no sound while watching flashfiles :(03:50
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MetaMorfoziSnoteventime: you need to install the flashpalyer03:51
MetaMorfoziSand you need to copy or symlink it to your  ~/.mozilla/plugins directory03:51
noteventimeI have but I dont get any sound :(03:51
sylvian00Hello again, I'm getting this error "Qt installation not detected. Set $QTDIR correctly and rerun." but I've got the kde-devel packages installed as Hodsee suggested before03:51
noteventimeqt4-dev?03:51
MetaMorfoziSother programs can' sound03:51
noteventimeAll KDE programs anyway03:52
samourahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132056  <-help me here  i don under stand i cant find xfce03:52
sylvian00noteventime: In konquerors setting, in the dialog where you can scan for netscape plugins, tick "use artsd to send sound to other applications" or something like that.03:53
samourai installd this and saved in home how to get it work http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/xfce/xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin?use_mirror=easynews03:53
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sylvian00noteventime: I can't remeber out of the top of my head, but it says somthing like that. That'll give you sound.03:53
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MetaMorfoziSnoteventime: i don't know..03:54
noteventimeok03:54
noteventimeThanks03:54
samouranoteventime03:54
pradeeptohi everybody.03:54
samourai installd this and saved in home how to get it work http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/xfce/xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin?use_mirror=easynews03:54
noteventimeWhy dont you use adept?03:55
pradeeptoCan anybody please tell where can I find Kubuntu logos?03:55
admrlpradeepto do you want an svg..?03:55
samouraadept i want to learn how to download files and run them please03:55
pradeeptoAnything that works.03:55
samourajust needed03:55
samourai want to learn how to download files and run them please03:55
pradeeptoadmrl svg will be great actually.03:55
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noteventimefound it03:56
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pradeeptoadmrl: do you know where can I get those ?03:58
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noteventimeyay it workd ^^ thanks03:59
sylvian00noteventime: No problem.03:59
sylvian00No one knows anything about my problem?04:00
noteventimeSalad finers talk again :D04:00
MetaMorfoziSsylvian00: try install build-essentials04:00
MetaMorfoziSand qt* devs04:01
MetaMorfoziSqt3-mt and other...04:01
sylvian00MetaMorfoziS: I have build essentials and all the qt-dev-packages I can find.04:01
MetaMorfoziSinstall all thing you see... and a nice day, it works good:)04:01
MetaMorfoziSfind: "qt3"04:01
MetaMorfoziSor qt404:01
pradeeptoCan anybody please tell where can I find Kubuntu logos? Please.04:01
noteventimeWebsite?04:02
MetaMorfoziSwww.kde-look.org04:02
MetaMorfoziSor kde.org04:02
MetaMorfoziS@ kde org have a specified page04:02
MetaMorfoziShttp://www.kde.org/stuff/04:02
sylvian00MetaMorfoziS: The only one that I know I havent got is libqt3-mt-dbg. Im installing that now04:02
MetaMorfoziSokay...04:03
sylvian00But really, shouldn't kde-devel provide me with $QTDIR?04:03
noteventimehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork04:03
sylvian00Is there some way to set the variable manually?04:03
noteventime^- There you go04:03
MetaMorfoziSsylvian00: i don't know any other...04:03
noteventimepradeepto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork04:03
pradeeptonoteventime: thanks.04:04
noteventimenp04:04
sylvian00MetaMorfoziS: Okey...I'llsee what happens when I get libqt3-mt-dbg installed.04:04
noteventimeDoes dapper drake use hardware accelerated X?04:06
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sylvian00MetaMorfoziS: Still nothing..04:07
MetaMorfoziS:(04:07
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samourawhy doesn this linux play mp3?04:07
sylvian00Does anyone know ho to set the variable $QTDIT manually?04:07
MetaMorfoziSsorry i can't help anyithing04:07
samourawhy doesn this linux play mp3?04:07
sylvian00MetaMorfoziS: Thanks anyway04:07
_tomaspeople :'(04:07
_tomasi cant get dapper drake to start anymore :/04:07
moronihi04:08
_tomasx complains about ONE_LEVEL something04:08
_tomas:/04:08
_tomasthis problem appeared after i did a sudo apt-get upgrade :/04:08
_tomasnow x wont start :/04:08
osh_Am I way off base when I think that --purge should remove config-files? I tried it on both apache and apache2 and they both left config-files in /etc/apache and /etc/apache2 respectivly.04:08
samourawhy can i  play mp3? HELP ME PLEASE? TUPAC SHAKUR is the best04:09
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_tomashi samoura04:09
samourawhy can i  play mp3? HELP ME04:09
_tomasyou got problems with playing mp3s?04:09
samourayess04:09
osh_!mp304:09
Glin|JolWinamp  5.13 Stopped04:09
ubotuwell, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:09
noteventimeinstall gstreamer-mad04:09
m_1unamplayer04:09
_tomas(y)04:09
noteventimei think the package is called04:09
_tomasyup04:10
_tomasbyebye04:10
hibatsuI can't play mp3s either on dapper04:11
hibatsudo I have to install gstreamer?04:11
osh_hibatsu: probably04:11
hibatsuwon't it work over xine somehow?04:12
hibatsuand do I have to install 0.8 or 0.1004:13
hibatsu?04:13
samourai open up adept and than search for gstreamer  full of lists 50 lists shude i install all the list?04:13
samouraif i put in mp3 this error comes up04:14
samouraAn error occurred while loading media:/sde1:04:14
samouraThe file or folder media:/sde1 does not exist.04:14
hibatsuIs your mp3 on a cd or another external media?04:15
samourajust a mp3 on usb04:15
samourastick it in usb04:15
hibatsulet me guess04:15
hibatsuits not mounted?04:15
hibatsuor the usb stick is actually sda104:16
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samourai don know i am new in linux04:16
samourawhen i was in window xp i just have to stick it and than media player pupps up04:16
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hibatsuso what happened when you sticked it in?04:17
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samourahow likes Tupac shakur ? www.folk.is/tupac my site :P04:17
samouraerror appirs ;S04:18
samouraAn error occurred while loading media:/sde1:04:18
samouraThe file or folder media:/sde1 does not exist.04:18
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hibatsuhm04:19
hibatsutry opening a terminal04:19
hibatsuand entering:04:19
hibatsumount /dev/sda104:19
samouramount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab :S04:20
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Broxtorsamoura: you have to enter in which directory you want to mount e.g. mount /dev/sda1 /home/user/mount04:21
hibatsuyeah04:21
hibatsuon kubuntu dapper, which gstreamer should I install 0.8 or 0.10?04:22
hibatsufor amarok and kaffeine?04:22
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samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ mount /dev/sda1 /home/user/mount04:24
samouramount: only root can do that04:24
samoura;S04:24
samourahelp04:24
hibatsuexchange user in /home/user/mount through your username04:24
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samouraHibatsu like this -> mount /dev/sda1 /home/user/mount/samoura?04:26
hibatsumount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount04:26
samouraheh :P in user samoura okei now i under stand04:27
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount04:27
samouramount: only root can do that04:27
samoura;S04:27
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Tonio_anyone there using yakuake ?04:29
Broxtorsamoura: try: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount04:29
jpatrickTonio_: why? :)04:29
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Tonio_jpatrick: I can't find that transparency setting..........;04:29
Broxtorsamoura: please make sure the folder /home/samoura/mount already exists04:29
Tonio_sounds incredible but I'm searching for about 5 minutes........04:30
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jpatricksorry I don't04:30
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samouraBroxtor do you mean creat a folder with name mount?04:31
samoura /home/samoura/04:31
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samoura /home/samoura/creat-folder-with-name-Mount  -> /home/samoura/mount04:32
samoura?04:32
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hibatsugo into /home/samoura04:34
hibatsuwith konqueror04:34
hibatsuand press f10 to make a new dir04:34
hibatsucalled mount04:34
osh_Hmm, I installed gstreamer (and a whole lot of deps) on a machine. Is there a simple way to remove it all again?04:35
samourawhere is konqueror in my system :S ?04:37
osh_How do I get aptitude to show a list of installed packages? Like rpm -qa on an rpm-based distro.04:38
MetaMorfoziS!kbfx04:38
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS04:38
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samourawhere is konqueror in my system :S ?04:39
hibatsudo you have kde or gnome?04:39
samourakde04:40
osh_samoura: which konqueror04:40
samourai have kde04:40
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osh_samoura: type what I told you.04:40
yan747bonjour04:40
yan747Hi04:41
hibatsuhi04:41
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samourahey thanks04:41
hibatsudid it work?04:43
samoura<hibatsu> go into /home/samoura <hibatsu> with konqueror     i see there bookmarks.xml bookmarks.xml.bak bookmarks.xml.tbcache konq_history  what shude i open up then ? :S04:43
hibatsudoes the sound work now?04:44
hibatsuthen the konqueror stuff isn't necessary now04:44
samourai havent tryd yet :S04:44
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samourano i sayd thanks for find this konqueror:S04:45
hibatsuok04:45
samourain konqueror     i see there bookmarks.xml bookmarks.xml.bak bookmarks.xml.tbcache konq_history  what shude i open up then ? :S04:45
hibatsuthen create a folder called mount04:45
samourain there?04:46
samourakonqueror04:46
hibatsuyes04:46
hibatsuand then enter the following command into your konsole04:46
hibatsusudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount04:46
samourathis -> /home/samoura/.kde/share/apps/konqueror04:47
samourasudo /home/samoura/.kde/share/apps/konqueror?04:47
samourasudo /home/samoura/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/mount?04:47
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noteventimeDoes anyone know if there is work being done on the i810 drivers?04:49
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samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount04:50
samouramount: you must specify the filesystem t04:50
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samoura;S04:50
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JoltDo you need an internet conn. to use the command "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12" ??04:51
samouratolking to me?04:52
Joltanybody...04:52
jpatrickyes04:52
noteventimewhat packages do i need to install koffice?04:52
noteventimeOr rather what packages are koffice04:53
Joltjpatrick, is there any way I can do it without an internet conn.?04:54
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kubby510hello everyone04:54
Joltget it from the installation cd maybe?04:54
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jpatrickJolt: download it from packages.ubuntu.com04:55
Jolthow big is it?04:55
noteventimeabout 50mb04:55
noteventimei think04:55
noteventimeif its the full kernel source04:55
kubby510I have a question about a new installation of kubuntu 5.10...04:56
kubby510I have installed it and im trying to run it for the first time and it keeps getting stuck at the point where it says "Checking Battery State"...04:56
samourasudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop why doesn work sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :S04:58
samourahelp me please04:58
noteventimeHmm.04:58
Joltjpatrick, I'm lost in those packages... is there an actual link for the "linux-source-2.6.12"?04:58
noteventimeHave you tried searching for xfce in adept/synaptic?04:58
samourayess04:58
samourai have04:58
noteventimeAnd you cant find anything?04:58
noteventimeI can find it04:59
noteventimeits called xfce404:59
samourawhere?04:59
noteventimetry: sudo apt-get install xfce404:59
samouraE: Couldn't find package xfce404:59
samouraE: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktopsudo05:00
jpatrickJolt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-source-2.6.1205:00
samourai have downloaded xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin but don know how to run it05:00
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noteventimeDo you know how to use the console?05:01
Joltjpatrick, thank you05:01
samouranoteventime -> i have downloaded xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin but don know how to run it05:01
samourayess i know05:01
noteventimegood go to the directory with the bin file in it05:01
samourawhere?05:01
noteventimethen run sudo ./xfce4-4........05:01
samouraokei05:01
noteventimethe ./ is important05:02
noteventimeDoes it work :)05:03
samourasudo./xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin? ;S05:04
noteventimea space after sudo ;)05:05
noteventimeHow do i get the new kexi package for koffice 1.5?05:05
MetaMorfoziShow can i re set the kicker's procces list?05:05
samourasudo ./xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin;S?05:05
MetaMorfoziSit's not lists my windows05:05
noteventimesamora: yes05:06
noteventimemetamorfozis: restart kicker?05:06
MetaMorfoziSbecause i had an accident05:06
MetaMorfoziSand deleted it05:06
noteventimeaha05:06
noteventimeits an applet05:06
MetaMorfoziSi have kicker05:06
MetaMorfoziSyes05:06
MetaMorfoziSbut what applet?05:06
noteventimerightklick then add05:06
MetaMorfoziSwhat is it's name?05:06
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noteventimewait a second il take a look05:06
noteventimetaskbar05:06
seezerhi05:07
noteventimehullo05:07
MetaMorfoziSit's in hungarian..05:07
MetaMorfoziSshit05:07
noteventimehaha05:07
noteventimewait, il take a look where its placed05:07
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MetaMorfoziSfeladatlista!!405:07
MetaMorfoziS:DDD05:07
MetaMorfoziSokay i have it, thank you05:07
noteventimenp05:07
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noteventimesamora: Hows it going?05:08
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samouraomg my computer frisesszzzzz05:09
noteventimehmmm  :/ after running the bin file?05:09
SkrotFFSAnyone know how I can compile kmplayer for kubuntu so it's embedded with konqueror?05:09
samourasudo ./xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin like this right?05:09
noteventimesamora do you know how to edit your repoitories for apt?05:10
noteventimesamora: yes05:10
tristanmikewouldn't you have to "chmod +x <filename>?05:10
samourano :(05:10
noteventimesamora: but i still think you should use apt05:10
samourai am new in this shitt05:10
noteventimeok05:10
noteventimestart adept05:10
samourathan?05:10
noteventimeadept->manage repos05:11
noteventimeyou found it?05:11
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yan747Hi05:12
samourai am in package manager (adept)05:12
noteventime'ello05:12
yan747what the name of stater bar for superkaramba ?05:12
samourais that right?05:12
noteventimeyes now go to adept (in the menu) -> manage repos05:12
noteventimeyes05:12
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samourafound it05:13
noteventimegood05:13
samourawhat to do than?05:13
noteventimeon every line that begins with #deb rightclick and press enable05:13
noteventimeonly those that begin with #deb or #deb-src05:14
dumezilhow do i get my bluetooth mouse paired with my laptop?  i found a utility to remove pairings, but not to add them05:14
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samouraokei i done it shude i enable to ded-src?05:15
samouraokei i done it shude i enable  ded-src?05:15
noteventimeYou can but you dont have to05:15
samouraokei it is better to do it right? :P05:15
noteventimesure05:15
noteventimeWhen your finished press apply05:15
samourafinito what next?05:16
noteventimepress close05:16
noteventimeafter pressing aplpy05:16
noteventimeapply*05:16
samouraokei05:16
samouranext?05:16
noteventimeNow you've told apt to use some "unsupported" repositores05:16
noteventimepress fetch updates05:17
samouraokei05:17
noteventimeThis might take a minute05:17
samouraupdate finish05:17
noteventimeWhen it finishes you should be able to install xubuntu-desktop05:17
samourasudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?05:18
noteventimeyes05:18
noteventimedumezil: I think there is some kind od kbluetooth app, have you tried it?05:18
samouraokei i will come back don go away please05:19
noteventimeI never had to use bloetooth so im afraid i can't help you any more. :(05:19
samoura;S05:19
noteventime?05:19
yan747any idea ?05:20
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noteventimeI was talking to dumezil05:20
samouraokei05:20
samoura:D05:20
noteventimeIl stay :)05:20
noteventimeyan747: What was your problem?05:20
noteventimeaha05:20
noteventimeFound it now05:20
noteventimeI'm not sure i understood it :S05:22
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noteventime'ello05:24
samourahello okei it worked :P but nothing is coming on the desktop:S05:24
noteventimehmmm :/ how do you mean?05:24
dumezilnoteventime: i odn't know where it is...  i found a page on ubuntu's wiki talking about it...  im trudging through the directions05:24
samourahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13205605:24
samourachack it this http://www.xfce.org/ there is a image of the desktop05:26
noteventimeI know how it looks, i've used it once, but it was abit too lightweight for me :)05:26
noteventimeYou know you have to choose xfce at login?05:27
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samouraokei where do i open it :S05:27
samoura?05:27
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noteventimeat login05:28
noteventimeyou have to choose session type05:28
noteventimei think it is called, and there you choose xfce, its a small menu under where you enter your password/username05:29
samouranoteventime okei i don have to warry :P05:30
samouracan you help me with nvidia to update :S i know you say no05:30
noteventimesure05:31
noteventimeI'l try05:31
samouraokei05:31
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samourawhere to start?05:31
noteventimeYou want to install the nvidia drivers?05:31
samourayess05:31
noteventimeok, a minute.05:32
samouramy computer allweyz frizzzz;S05:32
noteventimeok :)05:32
samoura;) not funny05:32
samourai have this website by the way www.folk.is/tupac i am a tupac shakur fan :D05:33
noteventimehmm....05:36
noteventime!nvidia05:36
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:36
noteventimeWhat is the name of you r graphics card?05:36
samoura:( i have read it it doesn help me :(05:36
samouraGe force fx 660005:37
samouraGT05:37
noteventimeok05:37
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voicuhi, can i have kde 3.4 and kde 3.5 running on the same system?05:37
noteventimesudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx05:37
noteventimevoicu: I don't think so05:38
samourayess it is working05:38
samourayou are my hero man05:38
noteventimehehe05:38
noteventimeNp05:38
noteventimewhen the installation is finished05:38
samourawhat than?05:39
noteventimesudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules05:39
voicunoteventime: are you sure there is no way to make them work?05:39
noteventimevoicu: No, but i think they share some resources, try in the KDE channel, you will probably find someone who is better it these kind of things05:40
samouranoteventime sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules;S05:40
voicuok05:40
noteventimesamora: ok05:40
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules05:40
samouraReading package lists... Done05:40
samouraBuilding dependency tree... Done05:40
samouraE: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules05:40
noteventimewait a minute il yake a look05:41
samouraokei05:41
noteventimewhat processor do you have?05:41
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samourashude i check?05:41
samourain adept?05:41
noteventimeDo yo have Intel or AMD?05:42
noteventimeor something else05:42
samouraamd05:42
noteventimeok 64?05:42
samouraAMD6405:42
noteventimeok05:42
noteventimesudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-common05:43
noteventimeI had the wrong package name05:43
samourathanks05:43
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noteventime:)05:43
samourano it is working05:43
samouranow05:43
tameritokeHi people05:43
samoura;:S05:43
tameritokeI have a problem to get kubuntu05:44
tameritoke:(05:44
noteventimenow run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable05:44
tameritokeI want to get the dabber release with jigdo05:44
noteventimetameritoke: Just ask :)05:44
tameritokeBut I don't know which mirror to take05:44
noteventimejigdo?05:44
tameritokeyes05:44
samouraokei i will restar the computer right?05:44
tameritokeThis is the fastest way to download the files05:44
noteventimeNO05:45
samouraokei05:45
noteventimehave you ryb sudo nvidia-glx-config enable05:45
samourayess05:45
tameritokeIt is being offered by kubuntu, but I don't know which mirrors to take05:45
samourai did05:45
noteventimeif so press ctrl+alt+backspace05:45
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samouraWarning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.05:45
samouraIn order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to05:45
samourabe restarted.05:45
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noteventimeyou only have to restart X05:45
tameritokeIs there a site where to display which mirror I may choose that all necessary files are being downloaded?!05:45
noteventimeif so press ctrl+alt+backspace05:45
noteventimetameritoke: Do you run kubuntu right now?05:46
samourabackspace?05:46
tameritokeno...05:46
tameritokeI shot gentoo away and now I want to install dapper drake05:46
tameritokehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/05:46
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tameritoketherer is it being offered05:46
noteventimethe one above enter05:46
samourawhat key word is backspace?05:46
samourashift?05:46
noteventimeno05:47
noteventimeabove enter05:47
noteventimethe one you delete chars with05:47
samourais the key ENTER? :S new english maybe i am from iceland05:47
samouraokei05:48
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samouranow i got it05:48
samoura:=)05:48
noteventimectrl+alt+backspace (backspace being the one above enter)05:48
tameritokeany ideas?05:48
noteventimehehe05:48
noteventimetameritoke: You can get the cd via bittorrent05:48
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noteventimesamora: ?05:51
noteventimedoes it work?05:51
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samourayess it is working :P05:52
samourai love it05:52
noteventimenice05:52
samourathank you thank you so match05:52
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noteventimexfce also working?05:52
samourajim &100000000 thanks to you05:53
noteventimeNP05:53
samourajim %100000000 thanks to you05:53
noteventime:) always glad to help05:53
dumezilis there an easy way to setup wifi?  a gui tool to show available wireless networks and connect to one and if necessary, ask for a WEP key?05:53
noteventimeyes05:53
dumezilwhat is it?05:53
noteventimekwifimanager05:53
dumezilcool thanks05:53
noteventimeI never realy tried it though because i use WPA05:54
dumezilok so im connected to a network, but i don't have an ip address...  what do i need to do to get an ip address05:54
noteventimeWhat is the name of the network adapter eth1?05:55
dumezilwhat do you mean?05:55
noteventimetry writing iwconfig in the console05:56
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dumezilyeah it spits out this whole bit about wlan0 and lots of stuff05:56
gilrimanyone know something about getting perl to work right?05:58
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dumezilhow to i tell my wireless adapter to look for an ip address when it connects to a network?05:59
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gilrimrun dhclient06:00
samouranoteventime do you know about this -> http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/sources.php i installd and i want run it can you teach me how to download program and run the program ?06:00
samourapsotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz06:00
noteventimesure06:01
samouracan you help me06:01
samourajust this and than i will lif you alone06:01
noteventimedumezil: try ifup wlan006:02
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noteventimesamora: have you looked if you can find it in adept?06:02
dumezilnoteventime: i did that and i got no dhcp offers...06:02
samourai vill luck06:03
noteventimeok06:04
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noteventimedumex06:04
noteventimedumezil: are you using wep or wpa?06:04
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noteventimesamora: Can you find it?06:05
samourai cant find it there ;S psotnic06:05
noteventimeHaha, psotnic again, or was it you asking yesterday?06:06
noteventimeSomeone asket about psotnic yesterday too :P06:06
samouranot me?06:06
samourareally? :D06:06
noteventimeYes06:06
samouraLOL06:06
noteventimeOk06:07
noteventimeThat is a sourcecode package which you have to compile06:07
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samouraokei06:07
noteventimefirst you need to extract it06:07
noteventimelike a zip file06:07
dumezilnoteventime: im not using either...  its an open network06:08
samourawait i am trying to find the home place06:08
noteventimedumezil: ok06:08
samouranew dektop :P06:08
noteventimeok :)06:08
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noteventimedumezil: have you tried using wifimanager?06:08
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Tonio_noteventime: kwifimanager ?06:09
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noteventimeyes06:09
samourafainaly found it i think i was wery fast06:11
noteventime?06:12
samouraokei how to excute?06:12
noteventimeyou need to compile it first, it only sourcecode06:12
alleedumezil: in case it's not answered yet: to pair the mouse 'sudo hidd --search' and press the 'pairing' buttun on your mouse. You may have to repeat it if it does not work on first go06:12
noteventimefirst open the console and go the the directory where you extracted the files06:13
samourahow to  compile?06:13
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noteventimefirst open the console and go the the directory where you extracted the files06:13
noteventimethen ./configure06:13
samourayou tolking to me or anothor guy?06:13
noteventimeyou06:13
samouraokei sorry i am silly06:13
noteventimeNp :)06:15
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noteventimeSorry im a bit slow im helping a friend with a thing at the same time06:15
samourai savded on the desktop so i say sudo /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz?06:15
samourais it right?06:16
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noteventimefirst you have to extract the files from the tar.gz06:16
samouraokei06:16
noteventimetar.gz is kinda lika a zip file06:16
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samouraif i click it it wont open ;S06:16
noteventimehmmm... try: ark /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz06:17
samouraokei thanks finished extracted06:18
samouranow knosole06:18
noteventimeyes06:18
noteventimego to the directory where you extracted the files06:18
samourai am in there and than?06:19
noteventime./configure06:19
samoura./configure bash: ./configure: No such file or directory ;(06:20
noteventimetry ls and see what it outputs06:21
noteventimeIt should work, I think your in the wrong directory06:21
samourain konsole?06:21
noteventimeyes06:21
samourajust ls?06:21
noteventimeyes06:22
samourabash: syntax error near unexpected token `in'06:22
noteventimels06:22
noteventimenot is :)06:22
samouraDesktop  xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin06:22
samourawhat than?06:23
noteventimeYour not in the directory where you extracted the files06:23
noteventimeyour in your home directory06:23
samourait is on the desktop06:23
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noteventimethen cd Desktop06:23
wincidehi, someone who uses openlazslo please ??06:23
noteventimeSorry, i dont even knoww what that is :P06:24
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noteventimesamora: ???06:24
noteventimesamora: Have you fount the folder where you extracted the files06:25
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samourano?06:25
noteventimecd Desktop06:25
noteventimethen ls again06:25
samouraokei than06:26
noteventimewhat does ls output?06:26
samourablue color Desktop  whit colorxfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin06:27
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burepe!japanese06:27
ubotuburepe: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:27
jpatrick!ja06:27
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jpatrick06:27
noteventimehmm06:28
burepeI need to install Japanese input. I though it might tell me06:28
noteventimeI've been trying to get ot too06:28
samourahey wait06:28
noteventimeGoogle for ot06:28
samoura:P06:28
blackflaghello all06:29
noteventimesamora, what was the name of the folder you extracted the files to?06:29
noteventime'ello06:29
blackflagdoes someone know a good hylafax client?06:29
noteventimehylafax-client?06:30
jpatrickskim?06:30
blackflagskim? where can I find that?06:30
jpatrickit's in Dapper06:31
Mronohi06:31
noteventime'ello06:31
blackflagokay I have breezy06:32
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noteventimeblackflag: there is a package called hylafax-client?06:32
noteventimeops there was not supposed to ba a ?06:32
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CellarDoorhello06:32
CellarDoor:P06:32
noteventime'ello06:32
CellarDoorI mean, :)06:32
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jpatrickblackflag: might be in backports06:33
CellarDooranyone know much about konqueror ?06:33
noteventimeA bit :)06:33
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samourai don have to switch06:33
noteventimeok06:33
CellarDoorI've seen screenshots where konqueror has a left panel that has info and previews but I cant see it anywhere in konqueror, do I need a plugin ?06:34
blackflagYes there IS a hylaclient package06:34
blackflagbut it is not accesible06:35
noteventimeCellarDoor: Yes, it is a plugin i've read about it in a tutorial sometime06:35
noteventimeblackflag: How do you mean?06:35
CellarDooris it on the repos ?06:35
samouranoteventime Desktop  xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin but i have extracted psotnic-0.2.706:35
noteventimewhere have wwyou extracted it?06:36
blackflagthe client is not a gui06:36
noteventimeplease give the full path06:36
samouraokei i am gonna install new and put it on the desktop wait a min06:36
blackflagI only find hylafax gui clients for M$ !!!06:36
blackflagand nothing for linux or KDE06:37
noteventimehttp://www.further.com/jeremy/khylafax06:37
noteventimehttp://freshmeat.net/projects/movifax/06:37
noteventimeblackflag: Take a look at those06:38
blackflagkhylaFAX > not found under that URL06:39
noteventimeok06:39
noteventimesorry, what about the other one06:39
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blackflagI have a look...06:41
samouranoteventime okei i have downloaded agein and extracted to desktop what to do But one problem why comes this up when i press Desktop  xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin;S06:41
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noteventimeSorry, but I didnt understand the question. :(06:42
samourain knosole LS Desktop  xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin06:42
noteventimeok06:42
noteventimecd Deskrop06:42
noteventimeand youl get to the desktop06:42
samouracd dekstop in knosole?06:43
noteventimecd Desktop06:43
noteventimein konsole06:43
samouraokei06:43
samouraand than?06:43
Mronohmm06:43
Mrono!bin06:43
ubotuMrono: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:43
MronoI don't remember how to install .bin06:44
Mronoah06:44
tristanmikeshouldn't you "chmod +x file.bin" first?06:44
noteventimesudo ./NAME_OF_BIN06:44
noteventimeyes06:44
Mronoyeah06:44
Mronomake sure you set the permissions06:44
noteventimesamora: are you in the folder06:44
tristanmikeone can also "checkinstall file.bin" too06:44
Mronosudo chmod +x <file>06:45
Mronosudo ./<file>06:45
noteventimethat should work :)06:45
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samouranoteventime ups i am a litl confused i am trying to install psotnic06:46
noteventimeYay, 9 hours of monkey island music06:46
samourait is not bin06:46
samoura;S06:46
noteventimesamora: Go to the directory where you extraced the files in the konsole06:47
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samouraokei06:47
noteventimeYou there06:48
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ here06:48
samouraand what to write there?06:49
noteventimeok06:49
noteventimedid you extrace all the files to the desktop?06:49
samourayess06:49
samourayes sorry06:49
noteventimeok06:49
noteventime./configure06:49
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$  ./configure06:50
samourabash: ./configure: No such file or directory06:50
samoura:S i am in deep shit06:50
noteventimethen you didnt extract them to the desktop? ;)06:50
Dasnipa`is there a file named configure?06:50
samouraokei i vill see that agein06:50
Mronoby default they extract to your home folder06:50
Dasnipa`on occasion a chmod +x configure is needed06:51
Dasnipa`but the permissions should be set06:51
noteventimeI  think you extracted them to a folder on your desktop06:51
noteventimetry ls06:51
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samourayes06:51
samourai did that06:51
noteventimewhat dos it show06:51
samourapsotnic-0.2.7  psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz  trash.desktop06:51
noteventimegood06:52
noteventimenow cd psotnic-0.2.706:52
noteventimeIt was inside the folder psotnic-0.2.706:52
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samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$06:52
noteventimetry ./configure now06:52
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samouraYEAH06:53
samourababy06:53
noteventimehehe06:53
Dasnipa`not dont yet06:53
Dasnipa`;)06:53
noteventimethis could tae a minute or two06:53
samouraokei what next?06:53
Dasnipa`make06:53
Dasnipa`then sudo make install06:54
noteventimemake compiles it ("translates it to binary code)06:54
tristanmikesudo checkinstall06:54
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noteventimebrb06:54
tristanmikeit's recommended that you use "sudo checkinstall"  Will have to install "checkinstall"06:54
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noteventimeI have o go for a few minutes06:55
noteventimeIl brb06:55
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samouraokei06:55
ricky_dsHi, I have problems making samba work on kubuntu. I configured it by right-clicking on a folder and saying "share". But it doesn't appear in my samba places, nor on the winXP client. Can anyone help?06:56
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jrhonkwhy kubuntu uses memory so much? about 300-400mb06:58
jrhonki have 1gb ram memory06:58
Dasnipa`jrhonk, linux manages memory a lot differently from other operating systems06:58
MetaMorfoziSanybody wants to run an ut server?06:59
MetaMorfoziS:)))06:59
MetaMorfoziSut2k406:59
bhnajrhonk: most memory is used as harddisk-cache06:59
Mronolol06:59
samourayou abck yppi06:59
noteventime_brbim back07:00
noteventime_brbMy onky uses about 190mb07:00
jrhonkcan i remove harddisk-cache? sorry i'm noob07:00
samourayppi thanks man07:00
Dasnipa`you dont want to jrhonk07:01
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tristanmikeI'm using 400 too, but I got superkaramba and Amarok running07:01
noteventime_brbsamora: all working?07:01
Dasnipa`it would slow down your performance07:01
bhnajrhonk: why?07:01
Dasnipa`its not a problem that so much ram is in use07:01
samourawhat shude i do after ./config07:01
noteventime_brbmake07:01
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samouramake?07:01
noteventime_brbonly make07:01
samourain console?07:01
tristanmikesamoura, yes, "make" is a command07:01
samourachill07:01
noteventime_brbmake compiles the code07:01
tristanmikeyup, in a console07:01
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tristanmikein the same folder where you ran ./configure07:02
jrhonkgnome uses about 100-200mb07:02
samourabrb07:02
bhnajrhonk: how do you test this?07:04
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Dasnipa`i think the problem mostly was that he was probably familiar with windows where having 300-400 mb of ram in use is a very bad thing while that percentage of ram in use is normal in linux he was just confused07:05
Mronohow do I upgrade to KDE 507:05
Mrono!upgrade07:05
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, Upgrading to dapper? Use the dist-upgrade manager and /join #ubuntu+107:05
samourai back07:05
Dasnipa`KDE 5?07:05
Mronolol07:05
Mronosorry07:05
Mrono3.507:05
noteventimeadd repository07:05
samouranoteventime07:05
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ make07:05
samourabash: make: command not found07:05
Dasnipa`ahh07:06
noteventimesamora: Ok you need another package07:06
Dasnipa`you need to get the untils for that samoura07:06
Dasnipa`atils*07:06
Dasnipa`blah typing utils*07:06
samourais hi right noteventime?07:06
noteventimeIl try to find the package anme07:06
Dasnipa`build-essentials package should contain make shouldnt it?07:06
noteventimewould be wierd otherwise :P07:07
noteventimesudp apt-get install build-essentials07:07
Dasnipa`otherwise its automake1.907:07
samoura sudp apt-get install build-essentials?07:08
Dasnipa`sudo07:08
OtisEvening, Mplayer plays WMV files fine but if I open them with KMplayer, it takes minutes before playback begins. I can provide the console output of KMplayer for anyone kind enough to help me.07:08
samouraE: Couldn't find package build-essentials07:08
Dasnipa`sounds like a question for the mplayer development team07:08
tristanmikesudo apt-get install build-essential   -no "s"07:08
noteventimeuse paste bin and post the URL and il do my best07:08
samouraokei07:09
noteventimesamora: Did you get the package?07:09
tristanmikesamoura, while you're at it, "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"07:09
Dasnipa`as much as we'd like to... we cant have knowledge of every individual program in linux Otis: your best bet is tracking down the mplayer forums/irc channel07:09
samourahttp://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/sources.php07:09
Dasnipa`yes, checkinstall is a good one to have too07:09
samouraand try the psotnic-current.tar.gz07:10
OtisDasnipa`: I don't have a problem with mplayer, I have a problem w/ kmplayer07:10
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Dasnipa`noteventime, i just looked at the package for that util samoura is trying to install07:16
noteventimeok07:16
Dasnipa`samoura, youll have to type make dynamic    to get it to compile07:16
noteventimedynamic linking?07:16
Dasnipa`theres three targets07:17
noteventimeok07:17
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ i am in there07:17
samouraokei what than?07:17
Dasnipa`typing make gives the target choice and says dynamic is the usual one07:17
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Dasnipa`and theres a crapload of warnings that g++ spits... hopefully the programmers of this program fix that later07:17
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noteventimeHehe, no wonder it wasnt in the deb repos :)07:18
Dasnipa`~/program_tarballs/psotnic-current$ make07:18
Dasnipa`Available targets:07:18
Dasnipa`* dynamic (prefered for most systems)07:18
Dasnipa`* static07:18
Dasnipa`* debug07:18
samouramake dynamic doesn work07:18
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noteventimecd psotnic-0.2.707:19
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noteventimethen make dynamic07:19
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ make dynami07:20
samourabash: make: command not found07:20
samoura;S07:20
samouraups config right?07:20
samourafirst ./config07:20
jpatricksudo apt-get install make?07:20
Dasnipa`jpatrick, its not make its automake1.907:20
Dasnipa`sudo apt-get install automake1.907:21
jpatrickoh yeah07:21
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samouradasnip & noteventime thanks i did sudo apt-get install automake1.9 and it worked what is next07:22
samoura?07:22
Dasnipa`make dynamic07:23
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$  make dynamic07:24
samourabash: make: command not found07:24
Dasnipa`hrms07:24
samourait doesn work :S07:24
Dasnipa`oh wait automake is the package for generating makefiles07:25
Dasnipa`not execing them07:25
Dasnipa`i always get the two confused07:25
samouraokei and does that mean i am finshed?07:26
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samouracan i now make many boots?07:26
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Mronohey07:27
Dasnipa`no you need a package for the correct make07:27
Dasnipa`let me find it07:27
Mronoi'm having trouble installing a splash screen07:27
Mronoit uses the Mooding engine07:27
Mronobut I can't figure out how to install it07:27
Mronomoodin*07:27
samouramrono you ll have to wait man dasnipa is helping me07:27
MronoI know i'm just throwing it out incase someone else is in the room07:28
noteventimesorry I'm unable to help right now. I'l probably be able to do so in a few minutes07:28
Mronolol07:28
Mrononp07:28
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Dasnipa`samoura, sudo apt-get install make07:29
samouraokei07:29
samourathanks07:29
samourais it now ready?07:30
Dasnipa`after getting the package make you will be ready to run make dynamic07:30
Dasnipa`and that command will then work07:30
Dasnipa`then youll want to type 'make install' after make dynamic07:30
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Dasnipa`and then you will be done07:30
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ make dynamic07:30
samouramake: *** No rule to make target `dynamic'.  Stop.07:30
Dasnipa`just try make then07:30
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ make07:31
samouramake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.07:31
Dasnipa`really hrms07:31
samouramybe sudo make?07:31
Dasnipa`no07:31
Dasnipa`do an ls07:31
Dasnipa`and look for anything that has makefile in it07:32
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samourain ls are hunderds of somthing i don know but there are match of list07:32
Dasnipa`you might have to ./configure again if the configure script didnt detect make it might have not generated the makefile07:32
Dasnipa`try ./configure again07:32
samouraokei than?07:33
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Dasnipa`does it look like it went thru?07:33
samourayes it does07:33
Dasnipa`does the output say it generated makefiles?07:33
samourathe config worked07:33
Dasnipa`okay there _should_ be a make file now07:34
Dasnipa`try make dynamic again07:34
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ ./configure07:34
samoura[*]  Running system check (this may take a while)07:34
samoura[*]  Operating system: GNU/Linux07:34
samoura`-> testing ipv4.c: failed07:34
samourawoo hoo hoo, your system cannot compile event the simplet code, there is something really wrong with it at tests/test.pm line 51.07:34
Dasnipa`okay well that is a failure message from ./configure07:34
Dasnipa`that explains why it didnt work...07:34
samouramaybe install anothor package?07:35
samourai just installd 1 package07:35
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Dasnipa`do me a favor and type g++ at the console and tell me what it outputs07:35
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ g++07:36
samourabash: g++: command not found07:36
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Dasnipa`heh07:37
samourawhat heh?07:37
Dasnipa`yeah they didnt have you get a compiler07:37
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samouraand?07:37
Dasnipa`sudo apt-get install g++07:37
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sebastianI love ubuntu/kubuntu but why the heck cd burning is not working???07:38
samouraokei and than?07:38
xChomphi! what package do i have to install to get the microsoft fonts?07:38
Dasnipa`then try the ./configure again07:38
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samouraDo you want to continue [Y/n] ?  ./configure07:39
samouraAbort.07:39
xChompouch!07:39
Dasnipa`oh you wanted to type y07:39
Dasnipa`so try sudo apt-get install g++07:39
Dasnipa`then type y07:39
samouraokei07:40
samourait downloaded07:40
samourawhat than?07:40
Dasnipa`now try the ./confugyre07:40
Dasnipa`./configure07:40
Dasnipa`*07:40
kubby510hi everyone07:41
samouraUhhhhh i love it is this over07:41
samoura:P07:41
Dasnipa`did it work this time samoura ?07:41
Dasnipa`what did it output07:41
samourayes07:41
samoura:P07:41
Dasnipa`what did it output?07:41
Dasnipa`many lines?07:41
samourayes07:41
Mronohi kubby07:41
Dasnipa`what was the last line it outputted?07:42
xChompwhere do i have to put the microsoft fonts so that i can use it, please?07:42
samouraRandom seed (seed.h) exists, using existing one.07:42
Mronohey kubby you perchanch know how to install moddin splash screens?07:42
noteventimeHow is it going :) you getting the hang of it samora :)07:42
Dasnipa`okay samoura07:42
Dasnipa`now make dynamic07:42
Mronoxchomp you use the font installer07:42
kubby510no sorry mrono07:42
kubby510im a noob :p07:42
samourauhh buja07:42
Mronounfortunately so am i07:42
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samourait worked07:42
kubby510I need help too :(07:42
Mronowhat is it07:43
xChompMrono: and what is the command to start the font installer?07:43
Mronokcontrol &07:43
kubby510everyone if anyone can help me with this problem of my computer freezing when it reaches "Checking battery state" could you please let me know! :)07:43
Dasnipa`samoura, now sudo make install07:43
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Mronotry messin with the spci07:43
Mronoapci*07:43
noteventime /usr/share/fonts/truetype/07:43
kubby510apic?07:43
samourawhat?07:44
samoura sudo make install07:44
noteventimeyes07:44
noteventimeI think the font folder is /usr/share/fonts/truetype/07:44
noteventimesamora07:44
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ sudo make install07:44
samouramake: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.07:44
Mronoxchomp: run command, "kcontrol &", the font installer is under administration at the bottom07:44
Dasnipa`apparently there isnt an install for it07:44
Dasnipa`samoura, now to run the program07:45
Dasnipa`cd bin07:45
kubby510should i try the "linux noapic nolapic" option at installation?07:45
xChompMrono: alright, thank you!07:45
Mrononp07:45
samouraokei than?07:45
Dasnipa`and then ./psotnic07:45
Mronoapic?07:45
Dasnipa`with the correct flags and paths07:45
Mronoapci07:45
Mronoyou can07:45
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin$ ./psotnic07:46
samouraSyntax: ./psotnic [-v]  [-p]  [-c decypted config]  [cryped config] 07:46
Dasnipa`thats how to run the program you just installed samoura07:46
kubby510well07:46
samoura:)07:46
kubby510the flag is "noapic" and "nolapic"07:46
samouraNoteventime thanks07:46
Dasnipa`samoura, what is the goal/purpose for installing this psotnic program?07:46
noteventimeIts an IRC bot07:46
Dasnipa`i dont know what the program is/what it does07:46
kubby510would a flag like that possibly help with a battery check problem?07:46
noteventimeaperently07:46
Dasnipa`oh07:46
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samouraokei shude i now start up x chat?07:47
Dasnipa`would be nice if they included a manpage so i could look up what all their flags mean07:47
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noteventime:) Well hope its good samoura becuse it was lots of work XD It's no problem though07:47
Mronook07:47
noteventimeOk, i have to go and eat now07:47
kubby510POLL OF THE DAY: Why is ubuntu such a PITA to install???07:47
kubby510:(07:47
noteventimeBye07:47
Mronoso who here knows how to install moodin themes07:47
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Mronolol07:48
samouraNoteventime YOU rock man but TUPAC is the best :P07:48
Mronoit's not to install07:48
Mronojust to configure07:48
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xChompMrono: but i cannot add TTF fonts with it07:48
MronoI did07:48
Dasnipa`samoura, http://polibuda.info/~grusin for more info. should be a manual for how to use the program there07:49
xChompit says: "Only fonts may be installed"07:49
MronoI did07:49
Mronoi installed both .ttf and .TTF07:49
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xChompMrono: do you need to install a special font server first or something?07:50
Mrononot that I know of07:50
EruantalonAnyone know geda? I don't seem to have refdes_renum installed with the kubuntu packages... anyone know where i can get it?07:51
Eruantalonnvm07:52
EruantalonFound it in geda-utils07:52
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xChompMrono: ahh now it works... the fonts had the wrong rights :) my bad!07:52
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samouradashnipa where is this boot installd?07:53
samouraplease tell me07:53
osh_samoura: /boot?07:55
samourai downloaded Psotnic07:56
samouraand want to know where it is installd07:56
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Dasnipa`its installed in ~/Desktop/<your psotnic dir>/bin07:57
Dasnipa`or maybe just ~/Desktop/<your psotnic dir> will be needed07:57
Dasnipa`something like that07:58
samouraokei07:58
samourahow can change the display menu change pictures07:59
samourait is to brigness07:59
samourait is to brigtness07:59
Mronomoodin splash screens08:00
Mronoanybody08:00
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Dasnipa`samoura, maybe read the psonic manual on their website to find out that info08:02
samouraokei08:02
vikke_what amaroK output-plugin / engine supports mp3 format?08:03
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osh_!mp308:04
Glin|JolWinamp  5.13 Stopped08:04
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:04
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vikke_oki08:05
JUDGEcrap.. I tried to add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ to my adept package manager for kubuntu but now it wont run and I cant edit the list!08:05
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JUDGEanyone have any ideas on how to fix it?08:07
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Mronolol08:07
MronoI did the same thing08:07
Mronoyeah08:07
MronoI do08:08
Mrono1 sec and i'll find the file08:08
JUDGEim a linux noob... so really just trying to learn.. have no idea how to fix it.. much appreciated08:08
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MronoI am too08:09
Mronoonly been on for a few days08:09
JUDGEso were you able to get that repositiory to work?08:09
Mrono!adept08:09
ubotu[adept]  a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto08:09
MronoI use synaptic08:09
Mronomainly cuz adept screwed up for me08:09
Mronodo a reboot08:09
Mronoit might help08:10
Mronoi'll try to find the file08:10
JUDGEalrighty08:10
MronoI saw it a few days ago08:10
Mronothere it is08:10
Mronook08:11
Mronojudge08:11
JUDGEyes?08:11
Mrono/etc/apt/08:11
Mronoedit the sources file08:11
Mronosources.list08:11
JUDGEer.... how? lol08:12
osh_reboot is rarely a solution in linux imho. not unless you've screwed up royally with some kernel crap...08:12
MronoI have that same repository and synaptic or adept have no problem with it08:12
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Mronolol08:12
MronoI did but then I rebooted and it was fine08:12
Mronoosh_ you know how to install moodin themes08:12
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JUDGEso look in the /etc/apt/ folder and edit the sources list?08:13
osh_Mrono: moodin? never heard of it. put some files in some theme dir probably.08:13
Mronohmmmm08:14
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JUDGEahh ok .. I found the source list08:15
Mronoheh08:15
Mronosweet08:15
MronoI got my powermate to flash intime with my music08:15
JUDGEso I should remove the entry that is messing everything up and then get the synaptic program?08:15
Mrononah08:15
Mronogo to a command line and type08:16
Mronoapt-get install synaptic08:16
Mronoer08:16
Mronosudo apt-get install synaptic08:16
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JUDGEcan I type that in the run command window?08:16
Mrononot that I know of08:16
noteventime_brbsamoura: Are you still here ?08:17
morrowarg... this damn shift-insert / x-window copy thing... when i mark some text it does not get into the klipper (for use with shift-insert into the konsole) but middle-click works...08:17
JUDGEok.. So use the terminal program for that command?08:17
JUDGEdamn.. I removed the line in the source list.. but it wont save. even simple tasks are confusing for me.. lol08:19
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Mronoah08:20
Mronoyeah08:20
Mronouse the terminal08:20
Mronoi dislike the klipper08:20
JUDGEMrono I cant edit the source list.. wont let me save it.. I don't have the correct permission .. im the only user.. so wtf?08:21
Mronoheh08:22
Mronohmm08:22
Mronowhat was that command08:22
JUDGE?08:22
Mrono!dorun08:23
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono08:23
Mronohmm08:23
Mronorun this command08:23
Mronogksuexec08:23
Mrono] what does it give you08:23
JUDGEme?08:24
Mronoyeah08:24
Mronoit should give you a dialog08:24
noteventime_brb!mono08:24
ubotu[mono]  implementation of .NET framework on linux.  For details http://www.go-mono.com08:24
JUDGEtyping in the run command window... I get "could not run specified command"08:24
Mronothought so08:24
Mronoopen up a command windpow08:24
Mronoa console08:25
Mronotype ssu08:25
Mronosu08:25
JUDGEis that the terminal?08:25
Mronoyeah08:25
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JUDGEok08:25
Mronothen cd /etc/apt08:25
Mronothen pico sources.list08:25
Mronoscroll down till you see the repository08:25
Mronosel it08:26
Mronothen use ctrl+o to save the file08:26
Mronodel it*08:26
Mronoand ctrl+x to exit the file08:26
JUDGEI typed su .. asked for password, I typed my password .. it said failed authentication..08:26
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pussfelleranyone used wengophone?08:27
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pussfelleri wanna do long distance but i dont wanna go thru the hassle of setting up asterisk again08:28
Mronolol08:28
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Mronotype cd /etc/apt08:28
Mronothen sudo pico sources.list08:28
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Mronoahhhh08:28
gilrimcould anyone here give me some help on a issue with perl, I suspect it's related to some path-variable... I'm trying to setup fuseftp, but it's complaining about missing dependencies, but I've already installed those with cpan..08:29
JUDGEok im in08:30
samourahello i installd http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/src/psotnic-current.tar.gz but how where is the fail that runs the installer i installd it excuted and confuger it but i don know the fail i installd08:30
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samourato run the irc boot08:31
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Mronojudge08:32
Mronoremove the repository08:32
samourai know where psotnic-0.2.7 is but i dont know what is the fail that runs it?08:32
Mronolike you wanted to08:32
JUDGEso frustrating... I removed the offending line... and saved the file.. but its still in there..08:32
samourai know where psotnic-0.2.7 is but i dont know what is the fail that runs it?08:32
Mronolol08:32
samourashut up i am new in this08:33
JUDGEits like every thing I try doesnt work in this damn os08:33
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JUDGEseriously.. open the sources list inthe console, select the line, delete the line.. save the file.. open the file again to check.. and the line is back.08:37
Mronolol08:38
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noteventime_brbJUDGE: what editor did you use?08:39
noteventime_brbsamoura: it probably installed into one of the bin directories so you dont have to woory about where it installed it, jus run the command08:40
JUDGEi was trying to edit it in kate, then the terminal... nothing is working08:41
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JUDGEpermission denied.. no matter what I try.. I cant edit that sources list08:43
noteventime_brbJUDGE; sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:43
noteventime_brbYou have to edit is as su08:43
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JUDGE"You have to edit is as su" I'm sorry, I dont know what that means08:44
Mronoroot pretty much08:44
JUDGEi have the file open in nano.. looking at the contents..08:45
Mrononote, he was editing it as su08:45
Mronosudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list08:45
JUDGEi can see the line in the file I want to remove.. when I remove it and attempt to save the file.. I get permission denied08:46
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noteventime_brbJUDGE: su is superuser, like the administrator08:46
JUDGEok08:46
noteventime_brbYou (normal user) dosnt have permission to edit system files08:46
noteventime_brbexcuse the english in the last sentence08:47
JUDGEhow can I become super? (heh)08:47
noteventime_brbsudo THE_KOMMAND08:47
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JUDGEoh08:47
noteventime_brbso to edit the file as super user08:47
noteventime_brbsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:47
noteventime_brb;)08:48
samouranoteventime08:48
noteventime_brbif you want the kde version: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:48
samouracan you help me ?08:49
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noteventime_brbsasure08:49
JUDGEomg.. Ithink it worked08:49
noteventime_brbhehe08:49
noteventime_brbsamoura: sure08:49
samouranoteventime how do i run the boot ?08:49
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samouranoteventime how do i run the boot ? :(08:49
noteventimeboot?08:49
samourathat you helpd me to install08:49
samouraBot08:49
noteventimeaha08:49
samoura;/08:49
noteventimesorry, i should have understood that08:49
noteventimepsotnic maybe08:50
noteventimetry psotnic in the konsole08:50
JUDGEso if su means super user what does pi mean?08:50
JUDGEer pico08:50
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samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ psotnic08:51
samourabash: psotnic: command not found08:51
samouraOhh arg08:51
noteventimeok08:51
samourasry i am not mad at you08:51
Mronolol08:51
noteventimeJUDGE: Where do you se that?08:51
noteventimesamoura: hehe, dont worry08:52
Mronopico is an editor08:52
noteventimeok08:52
noteventimelike nano ;)08:52
JUDGEok.. pico is an editor and nano is a different editor? didnt know that08:52
noteventimesamoura: Can you give me the page again?08:52
Mronothey look the same08:52
JUDGEso new at this .. it seriously hurts08:52
Snake__lol08:52
Mronojoin the club08:52
noteventimelol, pico is nano08:53
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$  psotnic08:53
samourabash: psotnic: command not found08:53
JUDGEsorry to inflict my complete ignorance on you all =)08:53
Snake__JUDGE: we've had worse08:53
noteventimesamoura: What was the webpage of the bot?08:53
Snake__!lol08:53
ubotuSnake__: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:53
Snake__right there08:53
samourawait08:54
samourahttp://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/08:54
Snake__oh08:54
noteventimesamoura: try sudo locate -u & locate psotnic08:55
samoura: ? sudo locate -u & locate psotnic08:56
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noteventimeyes08:56
noteventimecould take a minute before it finishes08:57
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo locate -u & locate psotnic08:57
samoura[1]  1193008:57
noteventimedoes it output [1]  11930?08:57
samourayess08:57
samourawhat than?08:58
noteventimehmm...08:58
noteventimeIt ouldtn output that08:58
noteventimetry running sudo locate -u08:58
noteventimewithout the other stuff08:58
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samourai have to wait08:59
noteventimeyes08:59
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noteventimea minute or two08:59
samouraokei finshed08:59
samourabut it doesn show the fails09:00
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noteventime?09:00
samourait doesnt show the output09:00
noteventimeo09:00
noteventimegood09:00
samouragood?09:01
noteventimenow: locate psotnic09:01
samoura:(09:01
noteventimelocate searches your hd09:01
samouraokei not it shows the out put09:01
noteventimelocate -u makes an index of all your files09:01
samoura;P09:01
noteventimecan you pastebin the output09:01
noteventime!pastebin09:02
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)09:02
samouraokei i will read ;S09:02
noteventimeyou paste your output and send me the page so i can read09:03
samouraokei what is it noteventime09:03
noteventimethat wway we dont flood the chat09:03
samouraokei09:04
samourahow do i paste?09:04
noteventimepaste all the output from locate on that site09:04
noteventimerightclick -> paste09:04
samoura:P coppy and paste :P09:04
samouraright?09:04
noteventimeyes09:04
noteventime:)09:04
samouraokei maybe is best to open a new konsole09:05
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samourai have writed many stupid things09:05
noteventimehaha, :) don't we all09:06
noteventime!console09:06
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime09:06
noteventime!terminal09:06
noteventime!konsole09:07
ubotunoteventime: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:07
noteventimeHows it going samoura?09:07
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noteventimehejsan09:08
samouraokei i have send it09:08
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noteventimenice, give me the URL09:09
noteventimewhat is the URL?09:09
samouraurl of what?09:09
samourahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9261?09:09
samourahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9261         ?09:10
noteventimeyes09:10
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noteventime /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin/psotnic09:10
noteventimeis the only binary09:10
samourawhat?09:10
samourai pasted all09:11
noteventimetry sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin/psotnic /usr/bin/09:11
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin/psotnic /usr/bin/ nothing shows up09:11
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin/psotnic /usr/bin/09:11
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$09:11
noteventimenothing is supposed to show up09:12
noteventimebut now you can run psotnic09:12
samouranothing09:12
samouraamoura@dhcppc0:~$ psotnic09:12
samouraSyntax: psotnic [-v]  [-p]  [-c decypted config]  [cryped config] 09:12
noteventimeyay!09:12
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noteventimeits alive ;)09:12
samouraokei :D yeah09:12
samoura:P09:12
samouraLol09:12
nedschnittthey room09:13
noteventimenow you should be able to use the guide on the website09:13
noteventime'ello09:13
samourahow do i start this?09:13
noteventimesamoura: Because I have no idea how to cinfigure this bot09:13
samourayou don have to09:13
noteventimeI think there was a tutorial on the website09:14
samouraokei09:14
nedschnitttIf I needed help with figuring out a problem with installing kubuntu, would this be the place to be or is there another?09:14
noteventimethis would be the place ;)09:14
nedschnitttsweet09:14
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noteventime#ubuntu is more alive but you probably cant get much KDE help there09:15
nedschnitttokay09:15
nedschnitttit isn't so much kde as it is ubuntu09:15
noteventimehehe09:15
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noteventimeI'll do my best to help09:15
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nedschnitttwhile installing, the program hangs while trying to install "libgstreamer0.8-0"09:16
noteventimedoes apt-get hang or adept?09:17
nedschnitttit just sits there with this error message: Fontconfig error: cannot load default config file09:17
noteventimeok09:17
noteventime:/09:17
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noteventime!fontconfig09:17
ubotunoteventime: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:17
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noteventimenedschnittt: I'm sorry, you'l have to try the #ubuntu channel09:19
nedschnitttokay09:19
nedschnitttthanks09:19
noteventimethat as much a KDE problem as a Gnome09:19
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noteventime:) Sorry for not being able to help09:20
nedschnitttyeah09:20
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nedschnitttit's all good09:20
nedschnitttI'm glad you too k the time out to help09:20
noteventimenp09:20
nedschnitttI'll see what I can find...thanks again09:21
nedschnitttbye09:21
volkanhi everyone09:21
volkanis there any way to run spe in kubuntu?09:21
noteventimespe?09:21
noteventime!spe09:21
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime09:22
volkanstani's python editor09:22
noteventimeahhh09:22
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noteventimeI've never tried09:22
noteventimeil make a try09:22
noteventimebut i recommend kdevelop09:22
volkankdevelop doesn't have code completing for python09:23
noteventimeok09:23
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noteventimeyou can install rpms using alien09:24
noteventimeor compile from source09:24
noteventime!rpm09:24
ubotuI guess rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien09:24
noteventime!alien09:25
ubotuwell, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/09:25
noteventimethat should help you09:25
Mronohmm09:27
Mronoanyone know how to install moddin splash screens09:28
noteventimeyes09:28
Mronohow09:28
noteventimeI downloaded the source and compilled but is exists in adept repos09:28
Mronono no09:28
MronoI already installed the program09:29
noteventimeAha09:29
Mronobut I got another splash screen09:29
noteventimethe same way you install others09:29
Mronohow do I install that one09:29
noteventimethe same way you install normal09:29
Mronohttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3413809:29
Mronodoesn't see it09:29
noteventimeDo you know how to install non-moodin themes09:30
noteventime!kdm09:30
ubotunoteventime: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:30
Mrono!KDM09:30
ubotuMrono: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:30
noteventimeWait il try to install it09:30
Mronook09:31
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Mronounless09:31
noteventimekitsch: www.piratbyran.org ??09:31
kitschnoteventime: yea :)09:32
noteventimehaha, hejsan09:32
Mronohmm09:32
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noteventimekitsch: jag kan inte PMa, jag r inte reggad09:34
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kaliwanaganhi there. is there anyway to do a network install of kubuntu?09:37
noteventimemrono: im sorry but i cant find where i install nre splash themes in kde 3.5.109:38
Mronoit's in kcontrol &09:38
Mronojust how much different is 3.5 from 3.4.309:38
flamingxmonkeyhey Mrono, I'm online, if you're still looking for help... sorry I'm later than expected, but I ran into some delays09:38
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Mrononp09:39
Mronohmmmmm09:40
Mronoso what's so different09:40
Mronoin 3.5.109:41
noteventimeI cant find the splashscreen menu :S09:41
flamingxmonkeyum... overall some stuff has been tidied up, e.g. with the system settings, etc.09:41
flamingxmonkeysome new options for things like the kicker taskbar appearance09:41
noteventimenow09:41
noteventimei found it09:42
Mronohmm09:42
Mronohow do I upgrade09:42
noteventimeto 3.5?09:42
Mronoyeah09:42
flamingxmonkeyintegration of transparency and shadows into the window settings, though that may have been in 3.4.3, if I'm mistaken09:42
Mronoit's here09:42
Mronobut it doesn't work09:42
flamingxmonkeywell, as far as I know, you still need the composite extension running in your xorg.conf09:42
flamingxmonkeyand it's fairly slow anyways, though it does look cool09:43
MronoDRI09:43
flamingxmonkeydepends on your video card09:43
flamingxmonkeyyeah09:43
Mronoso how do I upgrade09:43
flamingxmonkeyI'm on a laptop, so I'm only running a radeon 750009:43
Mrono9000 here09:44
Mronolaptop as well09:44
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noteventimethe moodin splash installs without any problems :)09:44
Mronohow09:44
Mronowait09:44
noteventimeLika any other splash09:44
Mronothe one I sent09:44
Mronoor the program09:44
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noteventimeyes09:44
flamingxmonkeywell, you basically need to add the kde 3.5.1 repositories to your apt list, and then do a dist upgrade09:44
volkan!knemo09:45
ubotuvolkan: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:45
Mronohmm09:45
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Mronook09:45
noteventimedeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main09:45
flamingxmonkeyhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php09:45
Mrononotecentime talk me through it09:45
flamingxmonkeyyeah09:45
volkanhow do I start knemo?09:45
Mronoinstalling the splash screen09:45
Mronoi've tried alot of things and nothing works09:46
noteventimeok09:46
flamingxmonkeyfor moodin?09:46
noteventimefirst start kcontrol09:46
Mronohttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3413809:46
flamingxmonkeyyeah, I seem to remember having trouble with that09:46
Mronouh huh09:46
flamingxmonkeyah, that's the one I'm using09:46
Mronostarted09:46
flamingxmonkeylooks good with the bliss kdm theme09:46
noteventimeaper and theme09:46
Mronok09:46
noteventimesplash screen09:47
volkancool meadow09:47
Mronok09:47
noteventimeadd09:47
Mronok09:47
noteventimethen just select the tar.gx you downloaded09:47
noteventimegz*09:47
Mronooh09:47
Mronolmao09:47
Mronoi'm an idiot09:47
noteventimenp :)09:47
MronoI was extracting it09:47
Mronothanks09:47
samouranoteventime common help me please i can anderstand how to start this boot there is a example folder in my folder i can let you have it09:47
noteventimeI made the same misstake a while ago with a gnome theme09:47
noteventimesamoura: sure09:48
noteventimeil take a look at the webpage09:48
samourahow do i run the program?09:49
samoura;S09:49
noteventimesamora, this guide is pretty good: http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php09:50
noteventimeMrono: Works now?09:50
noteventimeIts to long to explain though09:50
samouraokei thanks :D09:51
samourathat is just i needed09:51
_b!bittorrent09:51
ubotuhmm... bittorrent is the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html09:51
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samouranoteventime i dont know where in09:55
samouranick   bot's nickname09:55
samoura  realname  bot's real name09:55
samoura  nickappend  bunch of characters that will be appended to nick if it is taken (eg. -|`^, this setting is taken in consideration if `altuidnick' is set to 0)09:55
samoura  myipv4  ip address of the bot (eg. 88.45.56.15, 0.0.0.0 means any address)09:55
kaliwanaganokay i got something close to what i needed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix09:55
kaliwanaganthanks :)09:55
noteventimeRead a few lines down09:56
samourak09:56
noteventimesamoura: The guide begins a few lines down, for some strange reason it begins with a referense09:56
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noteventimeok, il brb09:57
Mronowow that's a long list of depentisies09:57
flamingxmonkeyyeah09:57
Mronohmm09:58
Mronoweird09:58
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Mronoi'm trying to put in a different background for a theme09:58
Mronobut it goes all weird when I do09:59
noteventimeDo you have the same resolution and format as the original theme09:59
Mronomostlikely not10:00
Mronobrb10:00
Mronoi'll set that up10:01
noteventimehehe10:01
samouranoteventime how do i bigger sceen i mean every thing is so litl like i cant see the text how can let it bigger?10:01
samouranoteventime how do i bigger screen i mean every thing is so litl like i cant see the text how can let it bigger screen ?10:01
samouranoteventime how do i confuger bigger screen i mean every thing is so litl like i cant see the text how can let it bigger screen ?10:02
Mronostill10:03
Mronoi'm trying to put http://www.microsoft.com/nz/windowsxp/images/5833d952e664cda.jpg10:03
Mronoonto that splash screne10:03
samouraNice10:03
samouraUhh10:03
Mrononot working10:04
samoura;S10:04
Mronoit just gives me a weird blue box when I test it10:04
samourahow can change my splash screne10:04
noteventimein kcontrol10:04
noteventimemrono what is the size and format of the original image10:04
Mrono1280x102410:05
MronoI resized that image to be 1280x102410:05
noteventimesamoura: Use kcontrol10:05
noteventimeMrono: and what format? png ? jpeg?10:05
Mronojpg10:05
Mronoah ha10:05
noteventimeok10:05
Mronoit's because i'm compressing it10:06
Mronook10:06
Mronoso10:06
noteventimechange the name format and reolution to the same10:06
samourakmenu/there is no control in there ;S10:06
Mronohow do I insert an image into a tar.gz10:06
noteventimeno you have to start it in run10:06
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sebastianhi10:06
noteventimeextract the tar.gz edit and then re-pack10:06
sebastianhow do i set suid for a binarY?10:06
noteventimehullo10:06
MronoI unpackaged the theme10:07
noteventimechown?10:07
Mronoremoved their background10:07
Mronoinserted the modified one of mine10:07
Mronoand repackaged it10:07
noteventimewith the same name?10:07
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flamingxmonkeyI feel like it's a chmod option10:07
Mronothat could also be it10:07
Mronobrb10:07
samourakmenu/there is no control in there ;S10:07
noteventimesamoura: You have to run it from a console or from "run"10:07
samourathanks10:08
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flamingxmonkeyI believe it's chmod -s filename, sebastian10:08
Mronotried it10:08
Mronosame name10:08
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Mronohttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3413810:09
Mronothat theme10:09
noteventimeok let me try it out10:09
Mronowith the afore mentioned background10:09
Mronook10:09
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flamingxmonkeyoh, wait, you said suid, nut setuid10:09
flamingxmonkeyerr, nm sebastian10:09
Mronobrb10:10
Mronoupdating my KDE10:10
Mronopray for me10:10
Mronowow10:10
Mrono141mb/s to download10:10
Mronothank goodness for cable internet10:11
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flamingxmonkeygoing to 3.5.1 Mrono?10:12
Mronoyep10:13
flamingxmonkeycool :)10:13
Mronoanything I need to know about10:13
noteventimeOk10:13
noteventimeIts working for me :)10:14
noteventimeIn test anyway10:14
noteventimeMrono: It works10:14
Mronogrr10:14
Mronosend it to me10:14
noteventimeDo you want me to send you the package?10:14
noteventimesur10:14
noteventimee10:14
Mronoyes please10:14
noteventimeemail?10:14
noteventimeor something else?10:15
Mronohmm10:15
Mronoyeah10:15
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Mronoemail10:15
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Mronoanyone know of a gmail notifier for linux?10:16
noteventimeThere is a plugin for super karamba i think10:16
noteventimeand for firefox10:16
noteventimeOk, the mail is sent now10:17
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noteventimetry it out10:17
Mronothanks10:17
noteventimenp10:18
Mronoooo10:18
Mronohttp://gmail-notify.sourceforge.net/10:18
noteventimehehe10:18
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noteventimedoes it woek Mrono?10:20
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Mrononope10:20
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tomas_hi everyone10:20
tomas_when i run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable i get10:20
tomas_Error: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum10:20
tomas_are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is10:20
tomas_installed correctly.10:20
Mronowoah10:21
tomas_how do i solve that?10:21
MronoI can't use my screen cap program anymore10:21
Mronooh duh10:21
Mronolol10:21
noteventime?10:21
Mronoi'm upgrading10:21
Mronodurr10:21
noteventimeMrono: Doesnt the kdesplash work?10:21
noteventimetomas_ I think youl have to edit the xorg.conf manually10:21
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noteventime!nvidia10:22
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736810:22
Mronoheh10:22
tomas_i have installed it before noteventime10:22
Mronoonce I finish upgrading i'll send you a screen cap10:22
tomas_im in dapper10:22
tomas_thats the thing10:22
Mronohmm10:23
MronoE: /var/cache/apt/archives/libcvsservice0_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkdeinit_cvsaskpass.so', which is also in package cervisia10:23
Mronocrap10:23
MronoI don't know if it finished10:23
noteventimetomas_: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8178/README/chapter-03-section-02.html10:23
Mronobrb10:23
Mronorestarting X10:23
tomas_noteventime: isnt ubuntu/kubuntu using xorg?10:24
noteventimeok10:24
noteventimeyes10:24
tomas_why do i get complains about xfree86 path then :/10:24
noteventimeThe config file looks the same though10:24
tomas_aha10:24
noteventimeohh10:24
tomas_Error: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum10:24
tomas_are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is10:24
tomas_installed correctly.10:24
noteventimehave you installed the driver from the nvidia webpage?10:25
tomas_i tried that first10:25
noteventimeok10:25
tomas_it compiled10:25
tomas_but10:25
tomas_i needed to use an old version :/10:25
tomas_from march last year10:25
tomas_or something10:25
tomas_but10:25
tomas_when i runned glxgears i got a segmentation fault10:25
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noteventimesudo apt-get install nvisia-glx-legacy i think the driver is called10:25
noteventimelegacy is the old one10:26
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tomas_=?10:26
tomas_legacy10:26
noteventimeyou run like a tnt or gf2 right?10:26
tomas_im not using an old10:26
tomas_no10:26
noteventimeok10:26
tomas_fx 5900 ;)10:26
noteventimehehe10:26
tomas_i may have solved it by myself10:26
tomas_brb10:26
noteventimeelse get the driver from adept ;)10:26
noteventimebrb10:28
Mronohmm10:29
Mronointerestering10:29
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noteventimeIm back10:36
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Mronook10:36
noteventimeMrono: How are things working out for you :)10:37
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Mrono3 broken packages10:37
Mronobut otherwise ok10:37
Mronocervisia10:37
Mronogmail-notify10:37
Mronowhich to fix would remove my 3.510:37
Mronoand kdevelop3-plugins10:37
noteventimeok10:38
Mronolooks like I can fix em10:38
ryanakcais there a good gui for apt other than adept/synaptic/aptitude10:38
noteventimeYes10:38
noteventimekpackage10:38
Mronohmm10:38
Mronokpackage10:38
Mronoi'll check it out10:38
noteventimeI hate it :D10:39
Mronolol10:39
noteventimeIts pretty nice for browsing though10:39
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noteventimeIf you dont know what you want but want something to do :P10:40
Mronolol10:40
Mronoyeah10:40
noteventimeI still think adept is by far the best10:40
noteventimeAlthough synaptic is better integrated with gnome10:41
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tomas_synaptic is the best IMO10:41
MronoI use synaptic10:41
noteventimeok10:41
tomas_noteventime: can you tell me how to apply patches?10:41
noteventimesure10:41
tomas_noteventime: i got a patch that should fix it (according to some fellow dapper users)10:41
noteventimeNever done it myself though, but i think i know how10:42
noteventimeA patch for what?10:42
tomas_https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/nvidia-glx/+bug/2923410:42
noteventimeok10:42
tomas_"This error occured on my machine as well. I edited the paths within nvidia-glx-config, and this fixed. The attached patch details the necessary changes."10:42
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NRG88how can i add my user to group disk?10:43
noteventimeok10:43
noteventimeYou have to patch the script file10:43
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tomas_noteventime: yeah but how10:43
noteventimeFirst you have to find the script10:43
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tomas_noteventime: mokey10:43
samouraFirst of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in how do i do this?10:44
samourawhat is dir?10:44
noteventimelocate nvidia-glx-config10:44
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noteventimedir is short for directory10:44
samourawhere psotinic binary is?10:44
noteventimeyes10:44
samourawher is this10:44
tomas_noteventime: i know dir ;)10:45
noteventimein /usr/bin/10:45
tomas_noteventime: i have installed w32codecs, plugins and everything ;)10:45
noteventime?10:45
tomas_noteventime: sorry i read wrong :$10:45
noteventimeo10:45
noteventime'ello10:45
noteventime'ello10:45
noteventime'ello10:45
noteventime'ello10:45
tomas_noteventime: its on /usr/sbin10:45
noteventimeopps10:45
tomas_in10:45
noteventimeok10:46
samourawhere psotinic binary is?10:46
tomas_but where is the source :/10:46
samoura /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7 ?10:46
noteventimesamoura: its in /usr/bin10:46
noteventimewe moved it there10:46
tomas_stupid me :p10:46
noteventimetomas_: Ok, now whe have to apply the patch to /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config10:46
tomas_its good to have the source installed :$10:46
Mronook10:46
Mronosay I wanted to mount a winxp ntfs10:47
Mronoit's in /dev/hda110:47
Mronoand I wanted it at /mnt/winxp10:47
Mronowhats the command10:47
noteventimesudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -tntfs10:47
noteventime!ntfs10:47
ubotuntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:47
tomas_oki noteventime :)10:47
tomas_time to patch :)10:47
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noteventimeHmm.. lts just try tp find the command10:48
tomas_diff?10:48
noteventimeyes10:48
tomas_:)10:48
noteventimeI think its the one :P10:48
noteventimeyou know this better than me :D10:48
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tomas_noteventime: not really :P10:49
noteventimebut isnt diff for making patches?10:49
noteventimemaybe not10:49
tomas_noteventime: it is :)10:49
tomas_noteventime: i read it somewhere i guess :P10:49
Mronohmm10:49
noteventimehaha10:49
samourai have done the copy of this conf.hud fail but i cant paste it there /usr/bin why?10:49
MronoI need to play .wav10:49
tomas_noteventime: thanks :)10:49
noteventimepatch10:49
tomas_patch?10:49
samourapatch?10:49
noteventimeis the command i think :p10:49
tomas_:P10:49
tomas_right :P10:49
samourai have done the copy of this conf.hud fail but i cant paste it there /usr/bin why?10:50
tomas_patch source  dest?10:50
noteventimei think dest source10:50
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noteventimebut im not sure10:50
tomas_oki10:50
tomas_we will see :P10:50
noteventimetry patch --help10:50
noteventimesamoura: you need to copy as rot10:50
noteventimeroot*10:50
samouraokei here we go agein ;(10:51
samourabut how?10:51
noteventimesudo cp /PATH_TO_CONFIG /usr/bin10:51
jasperi need some help with wireless (i've read all the howto's), almost got it but not quite10:51
noteventimejasper: Are you using WPA?10:51
jeanNON10:51
jeanGOOD10:52
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noteventime?10:52
jasperno10:52
jeanJE PARLE FRANCAIS10:52
tomas_no i will restart :D10:52
noteventimeok, wep?10:52
jeanatend10:52
samourasudo cp /conf.hub  /usr/bin?10:52
noteventimeno10:52
jasperi turned off my network key to get it setup10:52
noteventimeI dont speak frensh10:52
samouraLOL10:52
samoura:D10:53
noteventimesamoura: where is the conf.hub located?10:53
samouraups not funny10:53
samourait is /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples10:53
noteventimejasper, can you pastebin the output from iwconfig10:53
noteventimesudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/config.hub /usr/bin/10:54
jaspereth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"jasper"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"10:54
jasper          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s10:54
jasper          Tx-Power=off10:54
samoura it is there /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub10:54
jasper          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off10:54
noteventime!pastebin10:54
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)10:54
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jasperoops, sorry about that10:54
noteventimenp10:54
noteventime:)10:54
noteventimeAre you going to use wpa?10:55
jeanje ve que tu french10:55
jeanfrench10:55
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/config.hub /usr/bin/10:55
samouracp: cannot stat `/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/config.hub': No such file or directory10:55
robotgeek!fr10:55
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais10:55
jasperat this point, i just want it to work....it's been a week now10:55
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jasperi can live without wpa or wep10:56
tomas_:@10:56
ryanakcawho do I talk to for spelling mistakes in ubotu?10:56
tomas_SEGMENTATION FAULT10:56
noteventimeyou should use WPA, because i know how to configure that :P10:56
jeanjeannicolas.leroy@free.fr10:56
jasperok then, whatever it takes10:56
tomas_that will be tomorrows problem :P10:56
tomas_thank you for everything noteventime :)10:56
jasperlike i said....i'm just frustrated with it10:56
samouratomas maybe i vill help you and noteeventime helps me10:56
jeanallo...10:56
robotgeekryanakca: where is the error?10:56
noteventimetomas_: np10:56
jeanatend10:57
tomas_its allright samoura, its soon bedtime and there are other things i can do for now :)10:57
jeanmoi jean kde10:57
tomas_thanks anyway10:57
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tomas_do yourself a favour and buy ps3 when it comes out :)10:57
noteventimehehe, way to much money :P10:57
jean9]  <noteventime> maybe not[22:49]  <tomas_> noteventime: it is :)[22:49]  <tomas_> noteventime: i read it somewhere i guess :P[22:49]  <Mrono> hmm[22:49]  <noteventime> haha[22:49]  <samoura> i have done the copy of this conf.hud fail but i cant paste it there /usr/bin why?[22:49]  <Mrono> I need to play .wav[22:49]  <tomas_> noteventime: thanks :)[22:49]  <noteventime> patch[22:49]  <tomas_> patch?[22:49]  <samoura> patch?[22:49]  <noteventime> is the command i think :p10:57
jean]  <tomas_> right :P[22:50]  <samoura> i have done the copy of this conf.hud fail but i cant paste it there /usr/bin why?[22:50]  <tomas_> patch source  dest?[22:50]  <noteventime> i think dest source[22:50]  --> jasper a rejoint le canal. (n=jasper@modemcable209.99-81-70.mc.videotron.ca)[22:50]  <noteventime> but im not sure[22:50]  <tomas_> oki[22:50]  <tomas_> we will see :P[22:50]  <noteventime> try patch --help[22:50]  <noteventime> samoura: you need to copy as rot10:57
tomas_how much do you think it will cost?10:57
noteventimeabout 500$10:58
tomas_yeah10:58
tomas_sound reasonable10:58
noteventimemaybe 600$10:58
tomas_none knows10:58
tomas_but it will be worth it :P10:58
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noteventimeRevolution will cost 150$ :D10:58
tomas_someday running ubuntu on it :P10:58
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samoura600 it is i am reach i vill bay this for a 10023$10:58
tomas_and revolution is a snail10:58
jaspernoteventime: it's odd though, when i try to start it up it looks like its going to work, but then says "network down" and fails10:58
kwwiihi10:58
tomas_compared to ps310:58
tomas_anyway10:58
noteventimehmmm10:58
tomas_goodnight10:58
tomas_take care10:58
tomas_bye10:59
noteventimeBye10:59
samouranoteventime can you now help me?10:59
noteventimesure10:59
noteventimebut i need to help jasper too10:59
samouracp: cannot stat `/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/config.hub': No such file or directory10:59
kwwiican anyone point me to a good source of information about setting up a development environment?10:59
samoura:( the party is on :(10:59
noteventimewhich development nvirement10:59
ryanakcaVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais  should be  Vas  #ubuntu-fr out #kubuntu.fr pour aide et discussion en franais11:00
noteventimesamoura lets open a new channel11:00
samouraokei cool11:00
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noteventimejoin #samoura11:00
kwwiiI simply want to build code, gcc11:00
noteventimeKDevelop?11:00
kwwiihehe11:00
noteventimeis nice11:00
kwwiiI mean the path and other system variables11:00
ryanakcaA: "Va" becomes "Vas", and theres a pile of accent and other embelishemend errors11:00
kwwiiI installed make, gcc, etc...11:01
noteventimeYou dont have to11:01
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noteventimeIt should work11:01
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robotgeek!fr11:01
ubotumethinks fr is Vas `a #ubuntu-fr out #kubuntu.fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:01
noteventimejasper join #jasper11:01
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kwwiiyeah, once I exported variables like AUTOCONF, AUTOMAKE, etc.11:01
robotgeekryanakca: is that correct?11:01
kwwiithen it did not find gcc11:02
kwwii:-)11:02
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wk2001hello! can some one help me? i want to reinstall grub from live cd - can you say me how to do that?11:02
noteventimeIt should work by itself11:02
kwwiihrm11:02
kwwiiok, thanks11:02
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robotgeek!grub11:02
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting11:02
ryanakcaAccent should be on a (like this: , not like this: `a) ,and its franais, not francais11:02
robotgeekryanakca: can i /msg you?11:03
ryanakcayes11:03
wk2001ubotu did you ment me?11:03
ubotuwk2001: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:03
ryanakcadont bother asking... I started irc where people dont bother asking...11:03
Blissexwk2001: 'man grub-install'11:03
_bkubu whants orginal cd when installing bittornado, i dont whant that ! can i modify apt-scources to aviod this somehow ?11:04
Mronolmao11:04
Mronomy arm was hurting and I couldn't figure out how I hit it11:05
Mronothen I reached for my keyboard and did it again11:05
Mronosmacked it on the corner of my desk11:05
Mrono!wifi11:05
uboturumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:05
kwwiihehe, I just found the dependency package for gcc :-) thanks anyway11:05
kwwiihalf an hour of google down the drain11:06
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Mronobash: ispci: command not found11:06
Mronowhat do I need to dlk11:06
Mronodl*11:06
noteventimeits lsci11:07
noteventimeits lspci11:07
noteventimenit ispc11:07
noteventimei11:07
noteventimeits an L not an i11:07
Mronoah11:08
Mronobash: ispci: command not found11:08
Mronolol11:08
MronoI read it wrong11:08
Mronoanyone know what the default sound is for incoming mail in windows11:09
Mronoif I could play.wav I could find it11:09
noteventimemplayer play.wav11:09
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MronoI have to use mplayer for all my videos11:10
Mrononothing else works11:10
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ubuntualguem portugues????11:11
ubuntueu estou num emulador para mac11:11
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noteventimeI dont think there is a mac emulator11:11
noteventimebecause mac uses another platform11:11
noteventimeother hardware11:11
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mehagacan anyone help me with PCMCIA network card configuration, please?11:12
desmondthe generic drivers arent working properly for my asus tv card11:13
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danimo_did anyone get kat to work without causing a segfault in kded (dapper)11:15
danimo_?11:15
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mehagacan anyone help me with PCMCIA network card configuration, please?11:18
noteventimeSorry, I don't know how to use PCMCIA11:19
Mronobrb11:19
Mronorestarting11:19
robotgeekmehaga: have you taken a look at this?11:19
robotgeekmehaga, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:19
noteventime!pcmcia11:19
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime11:19
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mehagarobotbeek: it's not Wifi in question, it's regular lan11:20
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angasulehow can I view image thumbnails in konqueror, without getting the retarded-mode selection?11:20
harritjmehaga how much is working atm? if the card recognized?11:20
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harritjs/if/is11:20
mehagasorry what is 'atm'?11:20
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harritjat the moment11:21
mehagaharritj: well it's hard to say11:21
mehagaharritj: I can't get my DHCP working11:21
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mehagaharritj: card looks like recognized, but it's acting funny11:22
harritjlooks recognized as modules loaded for it?11:23
mehagaharritj: modules are loaded11:23
harritjwhat modules & what card?11:24
mehagaharritj: moduls: 3c574_cs , card: 3com 3CCFEM556B11:24
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linuxboyfriendhi all11:25
mehagaharritj: with lshw I get Ethernet interface11:25
linuxboyfriend i was trying to connect to internet but kppp gives this error: http://pastebin.com/57093511:25
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mehagaharritj: but there is no name for my card11:25
harritjno logical name you mean?11:25
harritjin lshw output?11:26
mehagaharritj: I have logical name, but no informations for card, like vednor, real name11:26
mehagaharritj: yes in lshw output11:26
harritjkk logical name is verified?11:27
mehagaharritj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13579711:27
mehagaharritj: i described here problem in more details..11:27
harritjreading.. sec =)11:27
mehagaharritj: ok,thx11:27
harritjemm in your interfaces file you have it set to eth not eth0 ..11:29
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mehagaharritj: just sec, to check..11:29
harritjin the iface line..11:29
mehagaharritj: nop, in file is OK, just a typing error11:30
mehagasorry...11:30
mehagaharritj: any idea?11:31
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harritjwhat does /var/log/daemon.log tell ya? As in dhclient logging11:32
Snoopy010481Mehaga - you have to identify a network-card?11:32
mehagaharritj: dhcpient says ther is no DHCPOFFER11:32
mehagaSnoopy010481: how do you meen?11:33
Snoopy010481What is your problem?11:33
mehagaSnoopy010481: ckeck this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13579711:33
mehagai described is there11:33
mehaga* it there..11:33
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noteventime!pastebin11:34
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)11:34
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Snoopy010481Okay, the problem is that the card will not get any ip-address from dhcp running in network?11:35
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mehagabut i have another PC working perfectly fine...11:36
mehagaalso Ubuntu11:36
Snoopy010481Did you check the dhcp-logs?11:36
mehagawith my DHCP server11:36
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mehagahow can I check dhcp-logs, do you meen on server or client?11:37
Snoopy010481I mean the server.11:37
Snoopy010481I don't know what kind of dhcp you're running.11:37
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mehagawell i'not sure how to do that, it's WinXp machine..11:37
Snoopy010481XP is doing dhcp?11:38
harritj:X11:38
mehagayeah--11:38
Snoopy010481With Jana-Server?11:38
mehagai'm not sure..11:38
mehagai just setup11:38
mehagawindows network..11:38
Snoopy010481XP itselfs cannot provide dhcp-services in default configuration.11:38
mehagai setup on XP IP to be automaticly...11:39
Snoopy010481The automatic assignment of IPs in a microsoft network is not a dhcp!11:39
mehagaand my other computers..11:39
mehagaok..11:39
mehagabut my other computers are fine with it..11:39
mehagai meen11:39
mehagai have another ubuntu machine11:39
Snoopy010481Are you sure that they have dynamic IP and no static one?11:39
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mehagathey are dynamic 100%11:40
Snoopy010481Supsicious...11:40
mehagamy another machine has DHCP11:40
Snoopy010481Do you use a router?11:40
mehagausing ubuntu, ofcourse?11:40
mehagano, cable modem..11:41
mehagabut he is connected to winXP11:41
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mehagaan from there I share connection..11:41
Snoopy010481Can you connect this PC with XP if you set a static IP?11:41
mehagaa did not try..11:42
Snoopy010481You know IP has to be in same subnet.11:42
Snoopy010481Then you should try, I think.11:42
mehagayes..11:42
Snoopy010481I guess the dhcp is the problem.11:42
mehagaok..11:42
mehagaok I will try, but I don't anderstand it...11:42
mehagaall other11:43
Snoopy010481If you don't have a dhcp it is just luck if it runs or not11:43
mehagacomputers work fine..11:43
Snoopy010481Sorry, my english is terrible... :-)11:43
mehagaok.. no problem..11:43
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mehagaim going to try static IP-s11:44
Snoopy010481fine11:44
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PerversusBuenas noches11:46
Perversusalguien en el canal?11:46
PerversusUna pregunta tengo un PIV 3.0 Hyper treaning ,lo tnego como smp "Es correcto"?11:47
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Snoopy010481mehaga: does it work?11:48
zephryosHobbsee you there?11:48
Hobbseezephryos: for a min, yeah - i'm about to reboot and have serious words with dapper's new kernel and ndiswrapper11:49
zephryos>.< I needed some help finding a driver.11:49
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zephryosone i found didnt work for my card11:49
Hobbseedid you check if it was listed in !wireless11:50
zephryos?11:50
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zephryoswhere?11:50
Hobbsee!wireless11:50
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards11:50
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Hobbseehttp://linux-wless.passys.nl/ <-- there as well11:51
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zephryoshmm11:53
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noteventime!pastebin12:00
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)12:00
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