[12:05] <samoura>  __ /home/samoura there is NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg0.run and how do i excute this?
[12:06] <SkrotFFS> samoura: cd /home/samoura;chmod a+x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg0.run;./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7667-pkg0.run but why do you want to do that?
[12:07] <samoura> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:07] <Mrono> I can play em in mplayer but that is simple
[12:07] <samoura> i am following after this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368 to install driver nvidia
[12:07] <hDp`> NeeD MerC FR
[12:15] <os2mac> does anyone use Firefox on Kubuntu?
[12:16] <Mrono> I do
[12:16] <SkrotFFS> So do I
[12:16] <Mrono> !firefox
[12:16] <SkrotFFS> For whatever pages konqueror can't handle at least
[12:17] <Mrono> !tell os2mac about firefox
[12:17] <Hobbsee> os2mac: i do as well, what did you want to know?
[12:17] <os2mac> I am having a problem with it... when ever I go to certian websites (cnn.com for example) the browser just shuts down....
[12:17] <JasonF> !tell me about firefox
[12:18] <os2mac> I can fix this by disabling javascript in the options but that limits functionality....
[12:18] <os2mac> anyone got any ideas how to correct?
[12:18] <Hobbsee> os2mac: which version of firefox?
[12:20] <os2mac> current one...
[12:22] <os2mac> 1.5 with no updates
[12:24] <os2mac> Hobbsee?
[12:25] <Hobbsee> os2mac: hmmm - not reproducing it here, dapper with the firefox from the mozilla site
[12:25] <samoura> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:25] <samoura> ctl-alt-f1 (so as to get to the command line, not a windowed terminal, but out of the graphical interface GUI)
[12:25] <samoura> 
[12:25] <samoura>  login with your username and password (if required)
[12:25] <samoura> 
[12:25] <samoura>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (or "kdm stop" if you use KDE)
[12:25] <samoura> 
[12:25] <samoura>  cd directory where you have the nvidia installer
[12:26] <samoura> what with cd }
[12:26] <m_1una> I cannot open anything
[12:26] <m_1una> neither the Terminal
[12:26] <os2mac> Hobbsee... I am on breezy.
[12:26] <Hobbsee> os2mac: true, but you'd be using the same version of firefox then.  i'm not sure why you'd have taht problem
[12:27] <Hobbsee> samoura: please see !enter, and where did you download the nvidia installer to?  your home directory?
[12:27] <samoura> yess
[12:27] <__mikem> !enter whats that
[12:27] <ubotu> __mikem: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:28] <os2mac> maybe I need to reinstall
[12:28] <__mikem> !enter
[12:28] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:28] <samoura> cd directory where you have the nvidia installer i don't understand this
[12:28] <Hobbsee> samoura: did you download a nvidia installer?
[12:28] <os2mac> ubotu:!firefox.15
[12:28] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, os2mac
[12:28] <__mikem> !flood
[12:28] <ubotu> somebody said flood was for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[12:28] <os2mac> ubotu:!firefox1.5
[12:28] <ubotu> os2mac: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:28] <samoura> i downloaded
[12:28] <Hobbsee> !+msgthebot
[12:28] <__mikem> !troll
[12:28] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:28] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, __mikem
[12:28] <samoura> yess i downloaded
[12:28] <os2mac> !firefox1.5
[12:28] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:28] <samoura> Send a message via AIM to tseliot
[12:29] <samoura> Default   HOWTO: Latest NVIDIA drivers
[12:29] <samoura> If you want to install Nvidia driver with the nvidia installer (I've tried v.7667) and you use a kernel from Ubuntu Hoary or you compiled it from Hoary sources (or kernel.org sources), then just try this HOWTO.
[12:29] <samoura>  If you have a kernel from Ubuntu Breezy then try this HOWTO:
[12:29] <samoura>  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=52924 OR just look at point 2 of the problems section of THIS guide.
[12:29] <samoura> 
[12:29] <Hobbsee> samoura: where did you download it to?
[12:29] <__mikem> !bot abuse
[12:29] <ubotu> somebody said bot abuse was a bannable offense
[12:29] <samoura> to home&samoura
[12:29] <Hobbsee> well...that saves me having to do it lol...
[12:29] <__mikem> !ban
[12:29] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, __mikem
[12:29] <Hobbsee> ok, so just cd - cd means change directory
[12:29] <__mikem> sorry, its fun to abuse ubotu though
[12:29] <Hobbsee> and samoura: dont paste, otherwise i will kick and/or ban you
[12:30] <samoura> okei sorry
[12:30] <Hobbsee> __mikem: it's also fun to kick/ban you, yes :P
[12:30] <__mikem> ok, ok, sorry
[12:30] <Hobbsee> :P
[12:30] <Mrono> hmmmmmm
[12:31] <m_1una> ciao
[12:31] <samoura>  <Hobbsee> cd means change diroctory i don't understand what change diroctory? please tell me i am new in linux
[12:31] <Mrono> hmmm
[12:31] <Hobbsee> samoura: cd to the directory you downloaded means "if you downloaded it to the Desktop, then you type "cd Desktop" into a console, then do the next step from there
[12:31] <Hobbsee> !cli
[12:31] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[12:31] <Mrono> video is annoying to get working correctly
[12:31] <sorin4u> salve
[12:32] <__mikem> cd is also a windows shell command
[12:32] <sorin4u> este cineva din romania?
[12:33] <Phazeman> __mikem: actually it is not :)
[12:33] <Phazeman> it's a DOS shell command :)
[12:33] <__mikem> They are the same d*mn thing
[12:33] <Phazeman> _also_ ;-)
[12:33] <sorin4u> do you understand my language?
[12:33] <Phazeman> __mikem: well.. not exactly
[12:33] <Phazeman> :-)
[12:34] <Chousuke> aahh... DOS.
[12:34] <Phazeman> but nevermind
[12:34] <sorin4u> its easy
[12:34] <Phazeman> Chousuke: lol
[12:34] <__mikem> AAAHHH OSX
[12:34] <__mikem> lol jk
[12:34] <Chousuke> installing kdevelop with fink
[12:34] <Chousuke> whee.
[12:35] <Chousuke> I wonder if it'll be compiling in the morning still.
[12:35] <__mikem> what are you doing in the ubuntu chanel if you are using OSX
[12:35] <__mikem> I am on ubuntu
[12:35] <__mikem> right now
[12:35] <Hobbsee> Chousuke: you usually run kubuntu dont you?
[12:35] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: just apt-get update/upgrade and all back online :)
[12:35] <Chousuke> Hobbsee: Not actually.
[12:35] <Chousuke> I'm here because I'm interested in Ubuntu and kubuntu
[12:35] <Hobbsee> __mikem: that means i could ask you the same question...
[12:35] <Phazeman> __mikem: why does it matter which distro he runs ?
[12:36] <Chousuke> I was a user of Ubuntu before my old machine broke and I bought a powerbook.
[12:36] <Phazeman> i run kubuntu and i'm on #mandriva too
[12:36] <Hobbsee> Chousuke: for some weird reason i thought you were already running it
[12:36] <Hobbsee> fun
[12:36] <__mikem> Phazeman it doesn't, why?
[12:36] <os2mac> hobbsee: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/569363
[12:36] <Hobbsee> Phazeman: yay :)
[12:36] <Phazeman> < __mikem> what are you doing in the ubuntu chanel if you are using OSX
[12:36] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: i was an op there once
[12:36] <Phazeman> before the general reconstruction of freenode
[12:36] <__mikem> OSX is for MAC isn't it
[12:36] <Phazeman> __mikem: yah
[12:37] <Hobbsee> os2mac: probably file a bug for it, not sure
[12:37] <Phazeman> Hobbsee: look at my hostmask :)
[12:37] <__mikem> And its based on FreeBSD, not Linux
[12:37] <Hobbsee> do what it says to get a backtrace
[12:37] <Phazeman> __mikem: yep
[12:37] <Chousuke> OS X is really cool. it has some things I want to see in Linux.
[12:37] <Hobbsee> heh nice
[12:37] <Chousuke> Most of all quicksilver. :P
[12:37] <Chousuke> ;(
[12:37] <__mikem> my point exactly
[12:37] <Chousuke> Katapult just doesn't cut it.
[12:37] <Hobbsee> what's quicksilver again?
[12:37] <Phazeman> Chousuke: the only thing i miss from OS X or W$ is photoshop
[12:37] <__mikem> Hobbsee Mercury
[12:38] <Chousuke> Hobbsee: swiss army knife of the software world.
[12:38] <Chousuke> and duct tape
[12:38] <Hobbsee> hehe yeah, but it's a launcher?
[12:38] <__mikem> google is your friend
[12:38] <Chousuke> that's its most basic functionality. :)
[12:38] <Mrono> you know why major software companies don't develop for linux
[12:39] <Chousuke> you can use QS in any way the plugins and your imagination allow you to.
[12:39] <Phazeman> monopoly and $
[12:39] <Mrono> support
[12:39] <__mikem> Because they are too proud to admit that linux is better
[12:39] <Mrono> think of how hard it would be to support it
[12:39] <Phazeman> Mrono: not actually.. because they don't care about operation system that doesn't have the corporate ws
[12:39] <Mrono> all those different distrobutions
[12:39] <__mikem> I can get free linux tech support, all I have to do is call my brother
[12:39] <Hobbsee> about as hard to support as all the repositories are
[12:39] <Mrono> you have your theory and I have mine
[12:40] <Phazeman> __mikem: thats why IRC is always here for me
[12:40] <Mrono> :)
[12:40] <__mikem> Yeh that to
[12:40] <Mrono> i've gotten so much help in ihere
[12:40] <Mrono> i'd be back at square one if I wasn't in ihere
[12:40] <__mikem> Same here, I usually just like to hang out here and watch peoples suggestions on fixing problems, its a great way to learn
[12:41] <Phazeman> Mrono: fortunately for me, the first linux experience for me under the watch of an older debian'ist that helped me alot
[12:41] <Phazeman> then i came to #mandriva (#mandrake at past)
[12:41] <Mrono> this is my first linux experience
[12:41] <Phazeman> ahh
[12:41] <Mrono> i'm acually sticking to it
[12:41] <__mikem> My brother and father are red hat diehards
[12:41] <__mikem> they both think fedora is the best
[12:41] <Mrono> I havent booted into windows for a few days
[12:42] <Chousuke> Hobbsee: Today I discovered a rather leet  thing about QS. You can use it from the command line. ;P
[12:42] <__mikem> yeh right, Fedora sucks. Its nothing more than the remains a dev group that went to the dark side
[12:42] <Hobbsee> ooh fun!
[12:42] <Phazeman> __mikem: remember that almost the only distro that suporrted by oracle is fedora
[12:42] <Chousuke> this means I can do find ./ whatever  and pipe the output to QS, and do whatever atrocities I want with the files.
[12:42] <Phazeman> so what is QS ? some one enlight me ?
[12:42] <Chousuke> though you can do that with pipes and command line utilities.
[12:43] <Chousuke> but the trick is, QS does the same for GUI apps :)
[12:43] <Phazeman> people.. show off your desktops... :-)
[12:44] <Phazeman> some screenshots would be nice to see
[12:44] <Phazeman> :)
[12:44] <__mikem> I am currently in gnome, if you want me to launch kde, I can though
[12:44] <__mikem> I have both installed on my laptop
[12:44] <Phazeman> __mikem: it doesn't matter, i don't like gnome though
[12:44] <Phazeman> gnome is "the old way" for me...
[12:44] <Phazeman> just never liked it..
[12:45] <Phazeman> fluxbox or kde when i have the resource for it
[12:45] <__mikem> I like kde better also, but when I opened the lid of my laptop this morning, gnome was running, and I didn't feel like logging out and back in
[12:46] <Phazeman> __mikem: it's only a personal choice thingy... i really don't care what people use... but it has to be a good looking thingy :)
[12:46] <Phazeman> __mikem: show off the desktop :)
[12:46] <__mikem> Then I would imagine that you hate xfce for all thats holly
[12:46] <Phazeman> __mikem: i don't hate anything
[12:46] <__mikem> excuse me, "don't like" xfce for all that is holly
[12:47] <Phazeman> i don't thing that a sluggish DM with the look of gnome can work better then a normaly configured fluxbox
[12:47] <Phazeman> xfce is slow and resources eating thing
[12:47] <Phazeman> did you try e17 ?
[12:47] <__mikem> e17?
[12:47] <__mikem> !e17
[12:47] <Phazeman> :-)
[12:48] <Phazeman> you don' tknow what is it ??? really ???
[12:48] <__mikem> Yes, I am a noobe
[12:48] <Phazeman> http://www.enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/DR17/
[12:48] <Phazeman> it's the general look so you'll have the idea what is it
[12:49] <Phazeman> it's a beta but a VERY solid one
[12:49] <Phazeman> looks very good i think
[12:49] <__mikem> Wow, thats nice
[12:49] <Phazeman> and runs very fast
[12:49] <__mikem> it almost looks better than kde
[12:49] <Phazeman> unfortunately i can't see an apt package for it in my repositories
[12:49] <Phazeman> it looks better
[12:49] <Phazeman> and runs faster
[12:49] <Phazeman> IMHO off course
[12:50] <Chousuke> People: try ion3. ;)
[12:50] <__mikem> when theres a stable release, Ill definitely try it
[12:50] <__mikem> I dont use beta software though
[12:50] <__mikem> !ion3
[12:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, ion3 is a window manager
[12:50] <__mikem> Chousuke how about a url
[12:51] <Chousuke> ion3 doesn't have much fluff
[12:51] <Chousuke> but it's interesting.
[12:51] <Phazeman> __mikem: i think it will take time... but e17 is developed for a long time now.. i think it's like wine... no release :)
[12:51] <Mrono> hmm
[12:51] <Phazeman> Chousuke: did you see the e17 thingy ?
[12:51] <Mrono> I think I saw that package
[12:51] <Phazeman> i've tried it on my mandy machine some time ago
[12:51] <Chousuke> http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[12:51] <Phazeman> Mrono: ?
[12:51] <__mikem> Phazeman I still can't believe you said xfce runs slow
[12:51] <Mrono> enlightenment
[12:52] <Phazeman> __mikem: it's VERY sluggish on my machine... fluxbox is _much_ faster
[12:52] <Mrono> yeah it's installed
[12:52] <Phazeman> Mrono: which repository ?
[12:52] <Mrono> can't tell
[12:52] <__mikem> !fluxbox
[12:52] <ubotu> it has been said that fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[12:52] <Phazeman> better... what is the name of the package ? may be a loog for a wrong thingy
[12:53] <Mrono> The Enlightenment Window Manager
[12:53] <Phazeman> __mikem: gimme a sec.. i'll try to locate some screenshot of mine
[12:53] <Phazeman> Mrono: it's e16
[12:53] <Mrono> package enlightenment
[12:53] <Phazeman> the stable
[12:53] <Mrono> ah
[12:53] <Mrono> I see
[12:53] <Mrono> how is ito
[12:53] <Mrono> it*
[12:53] <Phazeman> Mrono: never tried it...
[12:54] <Phazeman> i've tried only e17 and it was about a year ago
[12:54] <__mikem> I saw the screen shots on their website
[12:54] <Mrono> man, for the life of me I just can not get video playing
[12:54] <__mikem> hold on
[12:54] <__mikem> brb
[12:57] <__mikem> ok back
[12:57] <__mikem> I switched over to kde
[12:57] <Mrono> how did you do that
[12:58] <__mikem> I have a duel instalation of kde and gnome
[12:58] <__mikem> I also have xfce on here
[12:58] <Mrono> do you have to reboot to change windows systems
[12:59] <__mikem> no, gdm, or kdm allows you to choose the session that loads, all you have to do is log out, sellect a session type, and log back in
[12:59] <Mrono> ah
[12:59] <Mrono> hmm
[01:00] <__mikem> theres really no point to a set up like this, unless your like me and can't decide between desktop environments
[01:00] <Mrono> lol
[01:00] <Mrono> true
[01:01] <callie> hmmmmm any ideas what i can do with this old computer i found?
[01:02] <callie> i need a project or something
[01:02] <__mikem> is it a complete computer
[01:02] <callie> it will be in a couple of days
[01:02] <callie> just waiting for some SDRAM to arrive
[01:02] <__mikem> then, install ubuntu/kubuntu on it
[01:02] <Mrono> make a streaming media server
[01:02] <__mikem> and/or do that
[01:03] <callie> __mikem, i'm already runniong kubuntu on this box
[01:03] <__mikem> o ok
[01:03] <callie> hence me being in #kubuntu
[01:04] <__mikem> I was in gnome a few secconds ago, and I have beeen hanging out in kubuntu all day
[01:04] <Mrono> who can play videos
[01:04] <__mikem> I can
[01:04] <Mrono> what do you use
[01:04] <__mikem> kaffine
[01:04] <Mrono> with what engine
[01:05] <__mikem> you need to install some packages, I forgot which ones though, it was a while since I did it
[01:05] <callie> just download the whole repository
[01:05] <blackflag> hello all
[01:06] <robotgeek> hey blackflag
[01:06] <blackflag> I have a modem question
[01:06] <callie> hey blackflag
[01:06] <robotgeek> oops, i dunno anything about modems, sorry
[01:06] <blackflag> I have a telphone system installed
[01:06] <__mikem> !modems
[01:06] <ubotu> __mikem: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:06] <blackflag> its connected via USB
[01:06] <blackflag> and I want to use Hylafax
[01:07] <blackflag> but I dont know which port the modem is connected to
[01:07] <__mikem> port 80
[01:07] <blackflag> is there a command to find this out?
[01:07] <callie> or do you mean usb port?
[01:07] <callie> lsusb will do that
[01:07] <blackflag> there is a USB hub between
[01:07] <Mrono> i think I know why my fglrx doesn't work
[01:08] <__mikem> do tell
[01:08] <Mrono> why i'm not getting my ati card working with 3d
[01:08] <blackflag> and in / /dev I have about 15 USB devices
[01:08] <Mrono> I have kernal 2.6.10
[01:08] <Mrono> 686
[01:08] <blackflag> so how can I find the modem?
[01:08] <Mrono> the drivers are for kernal 2.6.12
[01:08] <Mrono> 686
[01:08] <Mrono> how do IO upgrade
[01:08] <Mrono> I*
[01:09] <callie> blackflag, lsusb like i said
[01:09] <blackflag> I tried lsusb
[01:09] <blackflag> there is the modem
[01:09] <blackflag> but in dev tehere are ttyUSb1....15
[01:09] <blackflag> so which is it?
[01:10] <blackflag> lsusb dont tell it to me
[01:10] <blackflag> so which ttyUSB is it?
[01:11] <callie> dude
[01:11] <callie> hang on
[01:12] <N6pfk> Hello.  Kubuntu is the first live distro I have tried that recognizes my built in wifi chip as eth1 but I can't seem to enable the transmitter?
[01:12] <callie> im assuming that you tried ttyusb1 blackflag ?
[01:12] <blackflag> yes
[01:12] <callie> and the other 14?
[01:12] <__mikem> Does anyone know how to run rhapsody on linux
[01:12] <blackflag> is it the only way to try step by step
[01:12] <blackflag> there is no command which is tell it to me?
[01:12] <ryanakca> how do you get the hot keys at the top of the keyboard (like the play, web, back, refresh, etc) to work? (in kde)....... I'm told sticky keys is what I want, but I cant seem to find out how that would be it... in case you're wondering what I mean by hotkeys, look at the grey keys at the top of the keyboard.... surrounded by blue plastic: http://image.devpia.com/Devpia/MSProduct/UploadImage/natural_multimedia.gif
[01:12] <callie> i dont know blackflag
[01:13] <ryanakca> the keys get recognised by Gnome, but KDE ignores them...
[01:13] <N6pfk> The module is ipw2200.
[01:13] <__mikem> what is black flag
[01:13] <callie> a band
[01:13] <blackflag> yes, also
[01:15] <N6pfk> I am using a compaq v2000 laptop with a Turion 64 processer.
[01:16] <ryanakca> how do you get the hot keys at the top of the keyboard (like the play, web, back, refresh, etc) to work? (in kde)....... I'm told sticky keys is what I want, but I cant seem to find out how that would be it... in case you're wondering what I mean by hotkeys, look at the grey keys at the top of the keyboard.... surrounded by blue plastic: http://image.devpia.com/Devpia/MSProduct/UploadImage/natural_multimedia.gif       They are also what make
[01:18] <__mikem> you already said this
[01:20] <Mrono> I th ought that looked familier
[01:26] <man2d> hi all
[01:27] <man2d> i have a problem with running counter-strike 1.6 with wine, can smb help?
[01:27] <blackflag> transgaming.com
[01:27] <blackflag> show for winex
[01:27] <man2d> i used manual on linux-gamers.net
[01:28] <man2d> game loaded, but very buggy
[01:33] <callie> sounds like wine to me
[01:34] <callie> never really had much success with it really
[01:35] <tristanmike> Hi, I'm having a problem with Kweather, as in it doesn't seem to work, can someone please give me a hand?
[01:35] <callie> tristanmike, if you want use superkaramba and Liquid weather
[01:35] <callie> check it out
[01:36] <tristanmike> callie, I was wondering about superkaramba, what is it exactly?
[01:36] <callie> !superkaramba
[01:36] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[01:36] <tristanmike> I noticed there is karamba and superkaramba, what are the differences?
[01:36] <callie> !karamba
[01:36] <ubotu> callie: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:36] <ryanakca> anybody know how to make the keys at the top of an internet keyboard work in kde? (like hotkeys)
[01:37] <callie> i think its just an older version of superkaramba tristanmike
[01:37] <tristanmike> callie, that's what I figured, but I'm still new to all of this, is superkaramba hard to configure, or does it take over my desktop, lol?
[01:37] <Mrono> I don't like it
[01:38] <callie> i love it
[01:38] <Mrono> it doesn't work very well
[01:38] <Mrono> or at all really
[01:38] <callie> works fine here
[01:38] <tristanmike> what would you suggest Mrono?
[01:38] <callie> you probably dont have the right libraries Mrono
[01:38] <Mrono> I don't have anything to suggest for widgets
[01:40] <tristanmike> When I go to configure the Weather Report applet, it just says "Empty Page" and displays nothing, and where the icon for the weather is suppose to be, it's just blank...any ideas?
[01:40] <callie> you probably need to direct to a weather server or something
[01:41] <Mrono> it errored when I tried to install liquid weather
[01:41] <Mrono> now I can't uninstall it to try again
[01:41] <callie> what was the error Mrono ?
[01:41] <Mrono> i don't remember
[01:41] <Mrono> it was earlier today
[01:41] <tristanmike> callie, there is no configure screen, that's the problem
[01:42] <callie> tristanmike, i've never used Kweather so i dont know, try looking on some forums
[01:42] <tristanmike> yeah, it seems to work for everyone else, lol
[01:42] <CellarDoor> hello kubuntu'ers
[01:42] <callie> heya CellarDoor
[01:43] <CellarDoor> hi callie
[01:43] <tristanmike> callie, so i just installed superkaramba, now what...lol, care to give me a quick tutorial?
[01:43] <CellarDoor> Anyone in the mood for some Gates bashing humor ?
[01:43] <CellarDoor> I found some quotes ;)
[01:43] <tristanmike> I'm _always_ in the mood for Gates bashing, lol
[01:43] <Mrono> sure
[01:44] <CellarDoor> hehe
[01:44] <CellarDoor> "There are people who don't like capitalism, and people who don't like PCs.  But there's no-one who likes the PC who doesn't like Microsoft" - Bill Gates, Free Market and the LA Times
[01:44] <tristanmike> lol
[01:45] <CellarDoor> "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time. As the successor to DOS, which has over 10,000,000 systems in use, it creates incredible opportunities for
[01:45] <CellarDoor> everyone involved with PCs." - Bill Gates, from "OS/2 Programmer's Guide" (forward by Bill Gates)
[01:45] <Mrono> heh
[01:45] <CellarDoor> :P
[01:45] <Mrono> he once said that he would never see anyone using more the 32kb of memory
[01:46] <CellarDoor> "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates circa 1981
[01:46] <Mrono> that's what it was
[01:46] <CellarDoor> yeah
[01:46] <CellarDoor> "If you can't make it good, at least make it look good." - Bill Gates on the solid code base of Win9X
[01:47] <Tm_T> =)
[01:47] <CellarDoor> "Anybody who thinks a little 9,000-line program that's distributed free and can be cloned by anyone is going to affect anything we do at Microsoft has his head screwed on wrong." - Bill Gates to George Gilder responding to Java (shortly before licensing Java and dumping Blackbird).
[01:47] <callie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:4mbramvax.jpg this is what 4MB of ram used to look like
[01:48] <CellarDoor> wow
[01:48] <CellarDoor> lol
[01:48] <Mrono> woah
[01:48] <ryanakca> anybody know how to make the keys at the top of an internet keyboard work in kde? (like hotkeys)
[01:48] <CellarDoor> hmm ryanakca dunno, I've got those, but I never used them even when I had Windows :P
[01:49] <Mrono> ah crud
[01:49] <ryanakca> holy... that's huge... 4mb.... lol
[01:49] <Mrono> screwed up my xine engine
[01:49] <Mrono> and none of the others worked
[01:49] <Mrono> !wifi
[01:49] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:49] <CellarDoor> "There won't be anything we won't say to people to try and convince them that our way is the way to go." - Bill Gates on Microsoft marketing
[01:49] <callie> imagine a gig of that stuff!
[01:50] <CellarDoor> callie: dont scare me
[01:50] <callie> lol
[01:51] <callie> imagine 3 gig of that stuff!
[01:51] <CellarDoor> Imagine how may ENIAC type computers you'd need to play Quake4 ?
[01:51] <callie> lmao
[01:51] <CellarDoor> :P
[01:51] <callie> or quake 1 even
[01:51] <adub> when i open network settings for my network in kde i cant click administrator mode because the screen is too large
[01:51] <adub> and when i go to resize it wont let me?????
[01:52] <callie> thats a known bug i think adub
[01:52] <CellarDoor> hmm
[01:52] <adub> callie is there a work around
[01:52] <callie> annoyingly i dont know
[01:52] <Mrono> grrrrr
[01:52] <adub> KDE: 3.4.3 is my version
[01:52] <Mrono> xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[01:53] <Mrono> hey adub
[01:53] <robotgeek_away> adub: alt + drag
[01:53] <robotgeek_away> gotta go, later
[01:53] <callie> c ya robotgeek_away
[01:54] <adub> thanks
[01:54] <Mrono> is it like this http://www.mrono.net/main/lazy-index.php?file=blogcontent/kde343bugsyssettings.png
[01:54] <CellarDoor> do I need to update my sources to upgrade from kde350 to 351.... and uh, is it worth it ? Or shall I just wait till the next kubuntu release ?
[01:54] <adub> heh i cant win for losing
[01:55] <adub> now it wont let me into administrator mode??
[01:55] <Mrono> why
[01:55] <adub> well it seems to authenticate the password but then everything is grey and at the top it still says changes in this section require root access
[01:55] <adub> :)
[01:55] <CellarDoor> I'm gonna get a box full of kubuntu ship it disks next release... because I can :)
[01:56] <CellarDoor> ooh does anyone know about the problem with BenQ dvd burners ?
[01:57] <CellarDoor> I have a couple of friends who cant install kubuntu via their BenQ drives (one of them used my pioneer without problem, but kubuntu still wouldnt recognise his BenQ afterwards) ??
[01:58] <adub> well network settings wont let me do anything within kde
[01:58] <adub> lol anyhow
[01:58] <CellarDoor> no problem with network settings here... but I'm using kde 3.5.0
[01:59] <blackflag> okay , again, when I do lsusb then it tells me Bus 001 device 005 so what is the device in /dev ?
[01:59] <MrBallZ> hi
[02:00] <MrBallZ> is kubuntu a good replacement for Sarge ?
[02:00] <callie> blackflag, you could have tried tty1-15 by now 10 times over
[02:01] <blackflag> yes, and tis not a good solution to do it so
[02:01] <callie> y not?
[02:01] <blackflag> we are talking about linux and linux is comfoprtabel
[02:01] <CellarDoor> MrBallZ: you could start a very long debate on such a topic :P
[02:01] <blackflag> so I think there must be a command or something else for it
[02:02] <callie> that im not denying, but no one here seems to know, so i'm merely stating that its the next best solution
[02:02] <Mrono> hey adub
[02:02] <Mrono> try this
[02:02] <CellarDoor> Interviewer:  Is studying computer science the best way to prepare to be a programmer? Gates:  No, the best way to prepare is to write programs, and to study
[02:02] <CellarDoor> great programs that other people have written.  In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating system. - Bill Gates, from "Programmers at Work" by Microsoft Press, interview with Bill
[02:02] <MrBallZ> CellarDoor: i know i know, the thing is that sometimes I would like to have some of the newest versions of several progz, and other software ... and I do love the stability and security of Sarge , but I'm thinking on trying kubuntu for my laptop ...
[02:02] <Mrono> open up a run command, type kcontrol &
[02:03] <Mrono> anyone here using kubuntu on a toshiba laptop
[02:03] <CellarDoor> MrBallZ: ah yes, I like the bleeding edge too :P
[02:03] <s_v_e_n> Hallo, any Idea How to use scripting in Knoda, a KDE-SQL-Frontend. "hk_classes-python" ist missing  !    ???
[02:03] <s_v_e_n> Is there a *.deb ???
[02:04] <CellarDoor> "If you don't know what you need Windows NT for, you don't need it." - Bill Gates
[02:05] <MrBallZ> CellarDoor: hahahah , the thing is that I would like to have newest KDE , kphoto, better wifi suppport , newest kernels faster ...
[02:05] <CellarDoor> MrBallZ: yeah
[02:06] <CellarDoor> whats kphoto like, I dont think I've tried that ?
[02:07] <CellarDoor> "Imagine the disincentive to software development if after months of work another company could come along and copy your work and market it under it's own name...without legal restraints to such copying, companies like Apple could not afford to advance the state of the art." - Bill Gates, on Microsoft's GUI innovations (unconfirmed quote)
[02:10] <man2d> !dapper
[02:10] <CellarDoor> oh its part of koffice ?
[02:11] <CellarDoor> I havent played with koffice in a while :$
[02:11] <ryanakca> I found my keyboard... I just don't know what "kind" of keyboard it is for kcontrol... you guys have any clue: http://can-tech.com.tw/CAN-3000.htm  ?
[02:14] <MrBallZ> CellarDoor: Kphoto is very good for digicams
[02:14] <CellarDoor> MrBallZ: ah rite... I'm installing Koffice now
[02:15] <MrBallZ> i just said kphoto ... its not part of koffice ...
[02:15] <CellarDoor> oh
[02:15] <CellarDoor> dang
[02:15] <MrBallZ> I  think ill go back to #debian ...
[02:15] <MrBallZ> hahahaha
[02:15] <MrBallZ> bye
[02:15] <CellarDoor> I google'd and saw mention of it
[02:15] <CellarDoor> pfft
[02:15] <CellarDoor> snobby debian users
[02:16] <brendan_> lol
[02:16] <CellarDoor> kphoto isn't on the repos
[02:16] <tristanmike> can someone help with a compiling problem?
[02:16] <brendan_> sure, what's up?
[02:17] <tristanmike> I'm trying to compile Superkaramba and I'm getting an odd error
[02:17] <CellarDoor> ooh
[02:17] <tristanmike> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[02:17] <tristanmike> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:17] <tristanmike> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:17] <brendan_> try ./configure --prefix=/usr
[02:17] <brendan_> that's the default for kubuntu
[02:17] <Mrono> I had issues with superkamba configuring it and making it as well
[02:18] <tristanmike> Mrono, lol
[02:18] <tristanmike> brendan_, no, that didn't work, same error
[02:18] <brendan_> isn't there a .deb? I feel like it's part of the standard install
[02:18] <tristanmike> I don't know, the one in the repos is .36
[02:19] <callie> i have .37 in my repo
[02:20] <brendan_> ok, tristanmike, you might need the kde-devel package
[02:20] <brendan_> if you don't have it installed, that is
[02:21] <tristanmike> I'll try
[02:21] <brendan_> I haven't actually compiled superkaramba on kubuntu, though I don't remember having a whole lot of problems on sid a few months ago
[02:22] <tristanmike> If things can go wrong they usually do for me
[02:22] <CellarDoor> does kphoto even exist ?
[02:22] <CellarDoor> I've never heard of it
[02:22] <CellarDoor> can't seem to find anything on it
[02:22] <brendan_> hmmm, yeah, I've got superkaramba .38 installed under 3.5.1
[02:23] <CellarDoor> I thought superkaramba was part of kde
[02:23] <CellarDoor> as of 3.5
[02:23] <tristanmike> brendan_, just like to say....BINGO!
[02:23] <Mrono> hey guys
[02:23] <brendan_> kde-devel worked?
[02:24] <tristanmike> yessir, thanx a bunch
[02:24] <Mrono> why would iwconfig of wirelesstools hang
[02:24] <brendan_> no worries
[02:24] <Mrono> it just sits there
[02:24] <CellarDoor> Mrono: no idea :P
[02:24] <brendan_> you need it for kde native themes too, so it's good to have anyways
[02:24] <tristanmike> sure, I'm cool
[02:24] <SmrtJustin> how can I make my system clock ETC instead of UTC, so my scripts that require the date command aren't off?
[02:24] <julian> hi everybody
[02:25] <CellarDoor> hey does anyone have any "new" screenshots of KDE4... got any scoops ?
[02:25] <CellarDoor> hi julian
[02:25] <julian> which is the kubuntu channel in spanish?
[02:25] <CellarDoor> There is a kubuntu channel in spanish ?
[02:25] <julian> how do i list all channels in korversation?
[02:25] <julian> there is
[02:25] <CellarDoor> uh... /list
[02:26] <Mrono> what is midnight commander
[02:26] <CellarDoor> file management
[02:26] <Mrono> ah
[02:26] <Mrono> i see
[02:26] <CellarDoor> :P
[02:27] <CellarDoor> not that I've ever really used it
[02:27] <brendan_> julian, try #kubuntu-es
[02:27] <brendan_> all of them are listed at http://www.kubuntu.org/support.php
[02:27] <CellarDoor> aah
[02:28] <CellarDoor> freenode... geek paradise
[02:28] <brendan_> never been in there, but the website seems to suggest it exists
[02:28] <brendan_> lol, yea
[02:28] <brendan_> h
[02:28] <CellarDoor> I should be an advertising exec
[02:28] <CellarDoor> :P
[02:29] <CellarDoor> argh... I've just installed Koffice and its dumped all its stuff in my "office" menu
[02:29] <brendan_> oh, lol, I just got my first BSOD running win98 in vmware player on my thinkpad
[02:29] <tristanmike> brendan_, checkinstall failed
[02:29] <CellarDoor> oooer
[02:29] <CellarDoor> haha
[02:29] <tristanmike> dpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`superkaramba') doesn't contain any digits
[02:30] <tristanmike> dpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file
[02:30] <brendan_> oh, you were compiling to deb?
[02:30] <tristanmike> brendan_, I guess, I was told to use checkinstall
[02:30] <CellarDoor> excellent
[02:31] <brendan_> well, I mean, when you were compiling superkaramba, did you use:
[02:31] <Mrono> brb
[02:31] <Mrono> rebooting
[02:31] <brendan_> ./configure --prefix=/usr ; make && sudo make install
[02:31] <brendan_> or did you do it the "debian way"?
[02:31] <tristanmike> I did it the way I was told to on the ubuntu irc help
[02:32] <brendan_> ah, k
[02:33] <tristanmike> brendan_, apparently I had to change the version from "superkaramba" to "0.37" and it worked
[02:33] <brendan_> huh
[02:33] <tristanmike> weird
[02:33] <brendan_> ok, well, if it works, I guess it's not worth complaining ;)
[02:34] <tristanmike> lol, I don't know if it "works" yet, I don't even know how to use it, I was just told to install it
[02:34] <brendan_> lol, oh
[02:35] <brendan_> well, superkaramba is fun, but I usually run it for a few days and then decide it's slowing stuff down and turn it off again
[02:35] <brendan_> kinda like konfabulator under windows
[02:40] <holotone> Anyone want to help a computer literate *nix newb get a Proxim Orinoco Gold B card up and running?
[02:40] <holotone> I'm connected via ethernet at the moment, so I am on the computer in question
[02:41] <Mrono> back
[02:41] <holotone> the forums don't seem to be much help @ the moment
[02:42] <brodel> is there anyway I can continue a multisession disc with k3b? I'd rather not have to reboot to windows just to use Nero :\
[02:42] <holotone> Any wireless gurus out there tonight?
[02:45] <Mrono> i need one as well
[02:46] <Mrono> iwconfig just hangs on my computer
[02:46] <brendan_> hmmm
[02:46] <brendan_> mine kinda worked out of the box... I'm using centrino wireless (ipw2100)
[02:46] <brendan_> although I've set it up on debian/gentoo/etc. before on the same computer
[02:46] <holotone> grrr.
[02:47] <brendan_> before ipw2100 was part of the standard kernel package
[02:47] <brendan_> but I'm not sure about the Orinoco
[02:48] <Mrono> grr
[02:48] <brendan_> what point in the install have you been able to get to?
[02:49] <brendan_> err, and Mrono, which card are you using?
[02:49] <Mrono> if I remember right it's an atheros
[02:49] <Mrono> either a 2000 or a 4000
[02:49] <Mrono> let me look
[02:50] <Mrono> and you guys wonder why more people don't use linux
[02:50] <Mrono> oh and btw
[02:50] <Mrono> my mp3 don't play again
[02:50] <brendan_> lol, well, it could be said that's part of the fun
[02:50] <brendan_> though I see where you're coming from
[02:51] <Mrono> wait
[02:51] <Mrono> nvm
[02:51] <Mrono> a REBOOT fixed em
[02:51] <Mrono> lol
[02:51] <brendan_> the wireless too, or just the mp3?
[02:51] <Mrono> mp3
[02:51] <Mrono> wireless never worked
[02:51] <Mrono> workes on slax
[02:51] <brendan_> ah, k
[02:51] <Mrono> out of box
[02:52] <Mrono> but not here
[02:52] <brendan_> um, does it detect the card and load the driver when you put it in?
[02:52] <Mrono> interenal
[02:52] <brendan_> ah
[02:52] <brendan_> well, if you do 'lsmod' can you see the driver that corresponds to the card?
[02:54] <CellarDoor> I always make sure I buy linux friendly hardware
[02:54] <Mrono> ath_pci                69148  0
[02:54] <Mrono> I wasn't planning on this being a linux system
[02:54] <Mrono> and I didn't buy i
[02:54] <Mrono> it*
[02:54] <CellarDoor> well, there you go then ;)
[02:55] <brendan_> hmmm
[02:55] <brendan_> ok, well, first off, maybe try 'rmmod ath_pci' and then 'modprobe ath_pci'
[02:55] <CellarDoor> dunno if this will help, but here tis: http://sxs.sourceforge.net/sxs/
[02:56] <Mrono> removing ath_pcu, operation not permitted
[02:56] <CellarDoor> erm... prolly wont help
[02:56] <Mrono> nothing happens when I put in rmmod ath_pci
[02:57] <Mrono> er
[02:57] <Mrono> nothing happens when I put in modprobeath_pci
[02:57] <Mrono> yeah
[02:57] <brendan_> er, sudo rmmod rmmod ath_pci
[02:57] <brendan_> sorry, scratch that
[02:58] <brendan_> um, ok, if you say lsmod, are there any other modules listed beside the entry for ath_pci?
[02:58] <brendan_> i.e. modules that depend on it
[02:58] <Mrono> ath_pci                69148  0
[02:58] <Mrono> ath_rate_sample        14344  1 ath_pci
[02:58] <Mrono> wlan                  120988  3 ath_pci,ath_rate_sample
[02:58] <Mrono> ath_hal               148432  3 ath_pci,ath_rate_sample
[02:59] <CellarDoor> I think I'm getting a headache
[02:59] <tristanmike> anyone know how I get the OSX style dock?
[02:59] <brendan_> ah
[02:59] <tristanmike> lol
[02:59] <brendan_> try kooldock or... there's another one that's escaping me at the moment
[02:59] <CellarDoor> Apple are officially evil you know
[03:00] <brendan_> take a look at kde-apps.org
[03:00] <CellarDoor> prolly on kde-look.org somewhere
[03:00] <brendan_> well, that too
[03:00] <tristanmike> i like the way the icons bounce
[03:00] <brendan_> they're basically the same site
[03:00] <CellarDoor> either or
[03:00] <brendan_> um... ok Mrono, basically the ath_pci is your driver, but ath_hal is probably the layer that sits between the hardware and software
[03:01] <Mrono> hardware abstraction layer
[03:01] <brendan_> yeah
[03:01] <CellarDoor> you know hal is an evil name ;)
[03:01] <tristanmike> out of curiosity, that isn't some apple could sue for is it? like say I released my own distro, but with the dock as a standard?
[03:01] <Mrono> lol
[03:01] <brendan_> so you should be able to sudo rmmod ath_pci, afaik
[03:02] <Mrono> like this "sudo rmmod ath_pci, afaik"
[03:02] <brendan_> er, no, sorry, the afaik was as far as I know
[03:02] <brendan_> sudo rmmod ath_pci
[03:02] <brendan_> and then:
[03:02] <brendan_> sudo modprobe ath_pci
[03:02] <brendan_> basically reloading the module
[03:02] <CellarDoor> tristanmike: they've stolen so much open source software I think it would be laughable for them to go to court over something like that
[03:03] <tristanmike> yeah, but *cough*gates*cough*
[03:03] <CellarDoor> Apple doesn't share code changes, they "code bomb"
[03:03] <brendan_> well, to be fair, I believe Darwin has a BSD based license, which is a lot less restrictive than the GPL
[03:03] <CellarDoor> WebCore... Safari...
[03:03] <CellarDoor> popcorn anyone ?
[03:04] <brendan_> lol, Safari is mostly konqueror
[03:04] <CellarDoor> exactly
[03:04] <brendan_> though they did make it a lot more stable in the process
[03:04] <Mrono> lovely
[03:04] <Mrono> root@weridkid:~# rmmod ath_pci
[03:04] <Mrono> and sits there
[03:04] <brendan_> which I think went back down the dev chain
[03:04] <Mrono> i hit enter
[03:04] <CellarDoor> theyre not making it easy for the konqueror folks at all though
[03:04] <Mrono> and nothing happens
[03:05] <brendan_> like, it doesn't print anything out, or it doesn't finish properly?
[03:05] <Mrono> the curser goes a line down and sits
[03:05] <brendan_> ah
[03:05] <Mrono> please tell me that's a good 'ah'
[03:06] <brendan_> well, ctrl+c, I guess to end it, and then try a lsmod
[03:06] <brendan_> sometimes the kernel doesn't really like adding and removing drivers, especially when they've got a web of dependencies like that
[03:06] <Mrono> ctrl+c doesn't do anything
[03:07] <brendan_> um, the other thing you can try if your driver is in there and running, is just doing a "sudo ifconfig ethX down" where ethX is your wifi card, and then trying iwconfig after that
[03:07] <dmdm> how do i see what harddrives are installed?
[03:07] <brendan_> if you just type mount, it'll give you a listing of all mounted drives
[03:07] <brendan_> df -h gives you free disk space (in human readable form)
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> cat /proc/partitions
[03:08] <brendan_> or you can use other things if the drives aren't mounted
[03:08] <dmdm> hm
[03:08] <dmdm> well im installed a drive into the system
[03:08] <dmdm> hm
[03:08] <GameCat> I am trying to play a dvd and failing - keep getting told I don't have permissions on the media
[03:08] <dmdm> mount gives out loads of proc /dev/ etc stuff
[03:08] <brendan_> um, Mrono, if it's not letting you close it, it may not work with the driver until you restart
[03:08] <GameCat> any ideas what might be wrong?
[03:09] <brendan_> unfortunately that's one of the things that can mess with the kernel a bit
[03:09] <Mrono> ethX: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[03:10] <brendan_> err, well, use eth0 or eth1 or whatever corresponds to your wireless card
[03:10] <Mrono> ok
[03:10] <Mrono> i try
[03:10] <Mrono> wait
[03:10] <brendan_> that'll disable your card
[03:10] <Mrono> how do I find out which one is the device
[03:10] <brendan_> err....
[03:10] <brendan_> iwconfig is crashing for you, isn't it?
[03:10] <brendan_> normally you could type "iwconfig" and it'll tell you what devices have wireless extensions available
[03:11] <Mrono> iwconfig does nothing for me
[03:11] <Mrono> brb
[03:11] <brendan_> k
[03:11] <Mrono> booting onto my slax to check something
[03:13] <julian> does somebody know the repository for mldonkew?
[03:13] <julian> does somebody know the repository for mldonkey?
[03:22] <Jolt> brendan, what, in your opinion, is the most user friendly Distro...
[03:23] <Jolt> user friendly, meaning... easy for amateurs
[03:23] <bimberi> !info kmldonkey
[03:23] <ubotu> kmldonkey: (KDE GUI for MLDonkey), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 891 kB, Installed size: 3036 kB
[03:23] <dmdm> to learn or to use?
[03:23] <Jolt> both, if that's possible
[03:23] <bimberi> julian: it's in the universe repository
[03:23] <dmdm> i think ubuntu
[03:24] <dmdm> im a noob
[03:24] <dmdm> and ive got the furthest with it
[03:24] <brendan_> um, jolt, ubuntu and kubuntu are both very good
[03:24] <brendan_> mandrake used to be one of the better ones, back when a lot of the newer ones didn't exist
[03:25] <brendan_> but it mostly did that by removing functionality
[03:25] <brendan_> so yeah, I'd say kubuntu/ubuntu are both very good
[03:25] <brendan_> I haven't really used the redhat based distros since about version 6, so I can't really comment on that
[03:25] <Jolt> brendan, bipolar suggested modules would be a better option for the Wireless USB Dongle, than Drivers
[03:25] <brendan_> I mean, any distro can be made to be easy to use for the end user, but it's a case of how difficult it is to administrate I'm guessing
[03:26] <GameCat> can someone help me play a dvd with xine? I have libdvdcss2 installed, but trying to play a disc gets me a box telling me it's crypted.
[03:26] <Jolt> true
[03:26] <brendan_> well, modules are basically the linux equivalent of drivers under windows
[03:26] <Jolt> ah, k
[03:26] <brendan_> i.e. you load the kernel module for the program, and it tells the linux kernel how to talk with it
[03:27] <brendan_> um, so anyways, I'd say that kubuntu is pretty easy to use
[03:27] <brendan_> certainly more so than debian standard
[03:27] <jerware> fellaz
[03:27] <CellarDoor> kubuntu is great for n00bs
[03:27] <_adub> where can i pick which AP i want to associate with
[03:28] <GameCat> can someone help me play a dvd with xine? I have libdvdcss2 installed, but trying to play a disc gets me a box telling me it's crypted and can't be played
[03:28] <brendan_> I actually really like gentoo as well, but it's a pain in the a** to get it working properly
[03:28] <jerware> what nic cards file do i edit, to manually edit ip addressing info?
[03:28] <CellarDoor> I learned more with kubuntu in a week than I did after using Manriva for six months
[03:28] <CellarDoor> I like its "simplicity", whilst not hiding the "real linux" from the user
[03:29] <brendan_> _adub, there are some kde based tools, though in my experience they're a bit inconsistent in how well they work
[03:29] <brendan_> jerware, manual ip addressing is handled through ifconfig
[03:29] <jerware> doh
[03:29] <jerware> ok
[03:29] <brendan_> you can do it in kde as well though
[03:29] <_adub> its showing in networking settings in kde i have no network profiles
[03:29] <brendan_> if you look under the control centre and networking
[03:29] <jerware> i thought i can edit a file that ifconfig reads/writes
[03:30] <_adub> is there a  way i can choose which AP to associate with from a list
[03:30] <brendan_> um... anybody want to field this?
[03:30] <brendan_> I usually use iwconfig to just set it up manually, but that's for networks I know
[03:30] <brendan_> I haven't looked at the graphical tools much lately
[03:31] <_adub> cellerdoor amen brother
[03:31] <_adub> i have used linux since 97
[03:31] <_adub> and i have used all the most popular distros
[03:31] <_adub> your using the best one
[03:31] <brendan_> yeah, very true CellarDoor, re: the man(drake/driva) issue
[03:32] <Mrono|wifi> see
[03:32] <Jolt> brendan, I was shown these drivers earlier... ( for the rt2570 Dongle ), and bipolar said he wud try and sort something out for me. Not sure what he was going to do... any ideas?
[03:32] <Jolt> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[03:32] <jerware> after i configure a new ip address manually(to move laptop from subnet to subnet),  must i restart some sort of networking service?
[03:32] <Mrono|wifi> my wifi is wireless friendly
[03:32] <brendan_> the thing with Mandrake was that it didn't have any of the devel tools, and it had weird non-standard packages
[03:32] <brendan_> I haven't used it since about 9.0, so I can't speak to mandriva
[03:33] <brendan_> um.... lemme take a look jolt
[03:33] <brendan_> yep, I think I ran across that sourceforge page earlier
[03:34] <CellarDoor> brendan_: yes, I think simplicity is the key, rather than each distro having its own "third party" graphical apps (even though I do like YAST)... simplicity allows a new user to get his/her head around Linux/Unix concepts easier, rather than being always in the dark and reliant upon distro specific apps when things dont work right...
[03:35] <Mrono|wifi> hey brendan
[03:35] <Mrono|wifi> ath0 is my wifi
[03:35] <brendan_> ah, k
[03:35] <Mrono|wifi> now to boot back into my os
[03:35] <CellarDoor> hey, did anyone hear about London's announcement that theyre gonna have a 1km square wifi hotspot in the middle of London's business district... for free ?
[03:35] <Mrono|wifi> i'm on slax
[03:36] <Mrono|wifi> http://slax.linux-live.org
[03:36] <brendan_> yeah, apparently they're putting them on lampposts, etc.
[03:36] <CellarDoor> coolness
[03:36] <Jolt> lampposts eh?? yoink
[03:36] <CellarDoor> moble phone companies arent happy about it I heard
[03:36] <_adub> does anyone know how to associate with one wireless AP from linux
[03:37] <brendan_> if you know the AP, you can type: sudo iwconfig eth0 essid AP
[03:37] <CellarDoor> Jolt: as long as it works... if it works, who cares ;)
[03:37] <brendan_> where eth0 is your wireless card
[03:37] <_adub> i dont know if i need sometihng that will allow me to go into monitor mode and still be able to talk out to the internet to accomplish this or what but i need this functionality thats for sure
[03:37] <brendan_> and "AP" is your access point ssid
[03:38] <brendan_> well, the nice thing with the way linux handles wireless is that you put it into promiscuous mode the same way as you would with a wired ethernet card
[03:38] <brendan_> it's all insulated from ifconfig with iwconfig
[03:39] <Jolt> brendan... the sourceforge page... what do you do with the drivers?
[03:40] <_adub> brendan thanks man i hope this works im going to try a few things
[03:40] <Mrono|wifi> brb
[03:40] <Mrono|wifi> rebooting into kubuntu
[03:41] <CellarDoor> fingers crossed...
[03:41] <brendan_> just taking a look at the docs jolt
[03:41] <brendan_> it looks like you need to have the kernel headers installed... do you?
[03:41] <brendan_> and are you running a kubuntu kernel, or a custom one?
[03:42] <brendan_> ok, good luck with it _adub
[03:43] <Jolt> brendan, i'm going to be blatently honest.... I have no idea
[03:43] <Jolt> i doubt somehow it's custom... it's a fresh install
[03:44] <kakei> hi does any one have installed Pureline (KDE-theme) after i compile it i dont get a kde theme file .. any idea?
[03:45] <brendan_> ok jolt, no worries
[03:45] <brendan_> kakei, after typing make, type sudo make install
[03:45] <brendan_> that should install it
[03:46] <brendan_> ok jolt, basically what we have to do is compile the driver to match your running kernel
[03:46] <brendan_> so first off, you need to open Adept
[03:46] <kakei> brendan_, no it doesn't. :(
[03:47] <brendan_> ah, k
[03:47] <brendan_> I remember having problems with pureline too
[03:47] <brendan_> um, let me check
[03:47] <kakei> brendan_,
[03:47] <kakei> is theres no way to u send me ur kde theme file _?
[03:47] <brendan_> err, yeah, that might work I suppose, assuming we're running the same kernel version
[03:48] <kakei> 2.6.12-10
[03:48] <brendan_> although I'm running kde 3.5.1, so I'm not sure that it'd install correctly on yours
[03:48] <brendan_> unless you're running that as well
[03:48] <kakei> i run kde 3.5.1 too
[03:48] <brendan_> k
[03:48] <brendan_> lemme take a look then
[03:49] <Mrono> ok
[03:49] <Mrono> back
[03:49] <brendan_> jolt, you still around?
[03:49] <Jolt> yup
[03:49] <Mrono> now
[03:49] <brendan_> ok, got adept open?
[03:49] <Mrono> how shall I go about this
[03:50] <kakei> brendan_, so ? :D
[03:50] <Jolt> fraid i can't, machine is turned off
[03:50] <Jolt>  "uname -r" = 2.6.12-9-386
[03:50] <Jolt> is that what you need? ^^
[03:50] <Mrono> hey brendan
[03:50] <Mrono> I got good and bad news
[03:51] <brendan_> just looking into it kakei, I'm trying to figure out how I got it to compile
[03:51] <kakei> bad first i guess
[03:51] <brendan_> it's got files all over the place, so it's probably easier for me to figure out how to get it to work on yours
[03:51] <Mrono> what are you compiline
[03:51] <brendan_> yep, jolt, I figured that's probably what you were running
[03:51] <brendan_> you need to install a couple of things though, to get it to compile the driver
[03:51] <brendan_> that's what I meant
[03:52] <Jolt> ah, k
[03:52] <brendan_> just trying to help jolt get his wireless working
[03:52] <brendan_> so what's the good vs bad news Mrono?
[03:52] <Mrono> ash
[03:52] <Mrono> well
[03:52] <Mrono> good is that iwconfig works
[03:52] <kakei> brendan_, hmm but send me ur kth file maybe thats easier hehe we use the same kernel,kde version
[03:52] <Mrono> bad is that it doesn't see my card
[03:52] <brendan_> kakei ah, I see what you mean
[03:53] <kakei> :)
[03:53] <brendan_> ah Mrono, lol, that's probably why iwconfig works, lol
[03:53] <Mrono> yeah...
[03:53] <adub> brendan you around?
[03:53] <brendan_> lol, yep, just doing 4 things at once
[03:53] <brendan_> what's up?
[03:53] <adub> the command didnt work it just changes the name of essid not what im associating with
[03:53] <adub> im still hooked to the same MAC and AP
[03:54] <brendan_> ah
[03:54] <brendan_> um, not sure on that one
[03:54] <brendan_> you might try to autoconfigure (i.e. with dhcpcd or something similar) and see if that works
[03:54] <brendan_> or you might want to make sure that the card is offline first
[03:54] <brendan_> as with ifconfig eth0 down
[03:55] <adub> right
[03:55] <adub> yeah i tried it down and thing commands
[03:55] <adub> etc
[03:55] <kakei> brendan_, so :(
[03:55] <brendan_> kakei, pureline has a bunch of libraries it installs
[03:56] <kakei> i install qtdevel
[03:56] <brendan_> um, lemme make sure we're talking about the same thing
[03:56] <brendan_> this is the pureline window decoration, right?
[03:56] <kakei> ya
[03:56] <kakei> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30501
[03:56] <brendan_> k
[03:56] <Mrono> heh
[03:56] <Mrono> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/84075/google-loses-image-battle-with-soft-porn-publisher.html
[03:56] <kakei> interesting, just the url
[03:57] <kakei> lol
[03:57] <brendan_> yep, that's what I'm running, I think
[03:57] <kakei> ur kth file will work :D!
[03:58] <brendan_> um... it doesn't make a kth file
[03:58] <kakei> how did u put it at themes?
[03:58] <brendan_> it's a native windeco, not a theme
[03:58] <kakei> for example
[03:58] <kakei> argh
[03:58] <kakei> i got baghira
[03:58] <kakei> and i have a kth
[03:59] <brendan_> well, yeah, baghira creates one, I believe, but baghira also has a visual style
[03:59] <brendan_> I just tried recompiling to make sure, and pureline definitely doesn't create any .kth file
[03:59] <kakei> brendan_, could u share a desktop screenshot ?
[03:59] <kakei> brendan_, i compiled it but nothing happens :(
[03:59] <Mrono> I like mine
[04:00] <Mrono> crystal
[04:00] <brendan_> err, ok, so what happens when you do the configure? it runs properly?
[04:00] <kakei> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969 his one?
[04:00] <kakei> brendan_,
[04:00] <kakei> ./configure --prefix=`kde-config --prefix` && make && sudo make install
[04:00] <kakei> i did that
[04:01] <kakei> but nothing happen
[04:01] <Mrono> 1 sec
[04:01] <Mrono> i'll upload mine
[04:04] <brendan_> k, kakei, I'm going to upload a screenshot for you, and then I'll package my compiled pureline folder and upload that too
[04:04] <brendan_> then you should be able to just do a make install from that
[04:05] <kakei> k
[04:05] <kakei> and thx man
[04:07] <Mrono> my turn!
[04:07] <Jolt> lol
[04:07] <kakei> ahaha
[04:07] <Mrono> i'm making a list of things to fix
[04:07] <brendan_> ok kakei, for the screenshot, try http://bitsmithy.net/screen.png
[04:07] <brendan_> I just turned pureline on to get it working
[04:08] <brendan_> give me a second to package the compiled directory
[04:08] <CellarDoor> nice
[04:08] <CellarDoor> what window deco is that ?
[04:09] <kakei> http://bitsmithy.net/ ur blog ? http://kakei.us [but it's in spanish(native language..)] 
[04:09] <brendan_> yeah, I'm still setting it up
[04:09] <brendan_> haven't had a chance to spend much time on it yet
[04:09] <kakei> Oh
[04:09] <brendan_> as you might have guessed from the front page
[04:09] <brendan_> lol
[04:09] <kakei> brendan_, have u test wordpress?
[04:09] <brendan_> I looked at it, but i ended up choosing cmsmadesimple
[04:09] <brendan_> I like the XHTML, it's nice and clean
[04:10] <CellarDoor> gimp's interface needs a major overhaul
[04:10] <yeonhoo> hi
[04:10] <yeonhoo> what text edit program is on kubuntu?
[04:10] <CellarDoor> oh... how dumb am I...
[04:10] <CellarDoor> :P
[04:11] <yeonhoo> im trying to type kate archive_name but it crashes..
[04:11] <Jolt> yeonhoo, OpenOffice AFAIK
[04:11] <CellarDoor> nevermind me... nothing to see here... move along
[04:11] <brendan_> http://bitsmithy.net/pureline-forkakei.tar.gz
[04:12] <yeonhoo> jolt, on konsole
[04:12] <Jolt> vi
[04:12] <yeonhoo> what command to excute their programs?
[04:12] <brendan_> anyways, yeah, I haven't really used pureline lately, so I just switched into it for the screenshot
[04:12] <yeonhoo> more easy program-.-
[04:12] <yeonhoo> vi is very difficult to novice as im
[04:12] <Jolt> "./filename" for VI
[04:12] <brendan_> I actually like crystal with the vista-style borders, though it's a bit of a resource hog
[04:12] <Jolt> oh
[04:13] <yeonhoo> gui program could be great
[04:13] <yeonhoo> but i dont know whats the command to excute their program
[04:13] <yeonhoo> wow
[04:13] <yeonhoo> thank you
[04:13] <yeonhoo> im working with fpc
[04:13] <Mrono> http://mrono.net/main/photos/computer/desktop02232006.png
[04:14] <Mrono> whoops
[04:14] <brendan_> any luck kakei?
[04:14] <kakei> downloading
[04:14] <brendan_> ok, anyways, I feel like I was helping other people, lol
[04:14] <Mrono> now it works
[04:14] <brendan_> what's next? ;)
[04:14] <brendan_> the wireless?
[04:15] <Jolt> please
[04:15] <Jolt> :)
[04:15] <brendan_> ok jolt, err, what point were we at?
[04:15] <brendan_> we needed to install the kernel source, right?
[04:15] <Mrono> i'll be figuring out my wireless at the moment
[04:15] <Mrono> just say my name when someone can help
[04:15] <brendan_> k
[04:16] <Mrono> !wifi
[04:16] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:16] <Jolt>   "uname -r" = 2.6.12-9-386 was the last info I posted
[04:16] <brendan_> kinda running out of ideas for yours Mrono, sorry it's not working out so well
[04:16] <brendan_> yep
[04:16] <Mrono> well
[04:16] <Mrono> now that the iwconfig works
[04:16] <Mrono> i might be able to go somewhere with this
[04:17] <brendan_> true enough Mrono
[04:17] <brendan_> so if you type iwconfig, does it tell you an interface that has "wireless extensions"?
[04:17] <kakei> brendan_, nothing
[04:17] <brendan_> kakei, you typed make install?
[04:17] <kakei> i did
[04:17] <Mrono> brenden_
[04:18] <brendan_> um... ok, just to double check kakei, you know it's called "deckgen...something...pureline" right?
[04:18] <Mrono> wireless tools is also avalable as a package
[04:18] <brendan_> it's in the menu under d
[04:18] <kakei> argh ??
[04:18] <brendan_> err, afaik iwconfig is part of wireless tools
[04:18] <Mrono> yeah
[04:18] <_tom> im trying to access an ntfs partition (sda2) but kubuntu says 'could not enter folder /media/sda2' .. whats wrong?!
[04:18] <Mrono> don't pay attn to me kakai
[04:18] <admrl> anyone here using amarok 1.4 beta
[04:19] <Mrono> anyone see my desktop
[04:19] <Mrono> I AM
[04:19] <Mrono> lol
[04:19] <d8vid> I have a "Kat Desktop Search Environment" icon in my system tray. Anyone know how to get rid of the thing?
[04:20] <admrl> thats it..?
[04:20] <brendan_> err, kinda lost track of things in the conversation there Mrono... what do you get if you just type 'iwconfig' ?
[04:20] <Mrono> no ath0
[04:20] <Mrono> i get....
[04:20] <admrl> no good
[04:20] <Mrono> lo        no wireless extensions.
[04:20] <Mrono> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[04:20] <Mrono> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[04:20] <d8vid> The thing doesn't seem to have any option to quit or anything. :(
[04:20] <brendan_> k
[04:20] <Mrono> but
[04:20] <_adub> something that should be so easy has now become so hard
[04:20] <_adub> lol
[04:20] <brendan_> so it looks like it might not be loading the driver
[04:20] <Mrono> remember we uninstalled iot
[04:20] <Mrono> remember
[04:21] <brendan_> yeah
[04:21] <farous> just checking can anyone check if he can draw an open circle with openoffice draw. I want to know if it is specific to my openoffice or is it a bug
[04:21] <_adub> i still can not figure out how to get this crap to associate with one ap
[04:21] <_adub> lol
[04:21] <Mrono> now we just have to reinstall it
[04:21] <Mrono> lol
[04:21] <brendan_> so if you modprobe the driver back in (something like modprobe ath_pci), then do iwconfig, does it work?
[04:21] <brendan_> yeah, lol, isn't this fun?
[04:22] <Mrono> bash: modeprobe: command not found
[04:22] <brendan_> sudo modprobe ath_pci
[04:22] <brendan_> sorry, you need to do most of this with root privelages
[04:22] <Mrono> i did
[04:22] <Mrono> i did su
[04:22] <Mrono> root@weridkid:/home/mrono# modeprobe ath_pci
[04:22] <Mrono> bash: modeprobe: command not found
[04:22] <farous> Mrono: you had the command wrong its modprobe not modeprobe
[04:23] <brendan_> make sure you use "modprobe" without the E
[04:23] <Mrono> lol
[04:23] <Mrono> typo
[04:23] <brendan_> ah, k
[04:23] <Mrono> FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/madwifi/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:23] <farous> Mrono: just copy and paste from the channel
[04:23] <brendan_> ooh, fun
[04:23] <brendan_> lol
[04:23] <Mrono> yep
[04:23] <brendan_> err, what's at the end if you type "dmesg"
[04:24] <Mrono> a 50 page essay
[04:24] <brendan_> yeah, but it'll have something at the very end, that'll be the most recent
[04:24] <Mrono> [4296884.350000]  ath_pci: Unknown symbol ieee80211_ioctl_giwtxpow
[04:24] <brendan_> huh
[04:24] <brendan_> well, that's new
[04:25] <brendan_> um... I *think* it's looking for a module that controls the transmission power of the card
[04:25] <Mrono> lol
[04:25] <Mrono> i see that
[04:25] <Mrono> 'txpow'
[04:25] <brendan_> yeah
[04:25] <brendan_> um.... if it's not loading that by default, I'm at a bit of a loss... it should auto-load dependencies
[04:26] <Mrono> is it any help to know that it works when i'm on a distro on my flash drive
[04:26] <brendan_> well, I would guess that that's precompiled with the driver
[04:27] <brendan_> right in the kernel modules, I would suspect
[04:27] <brendan_> um...
[04:27] <brendan_> just to double check, what kernel version are you using?
[04:27] <Mrono> um
[04:27] <Mrono> Release:  2.6.12-10-686
[04:27] <Mrono> that what you need?
[04:27] <brendan_> jolt, I've lost track of what you were doing again... did you get a chance to install the package "linux-source-2.6.12"?
[04:28] <Jolt> i dunno how......
[04:28] <brendan_> ok, so yeah, that's the current kubuntu kernel
[04:28] <brendan_> oh
[04:28] <Jolt> Man, I actually feel like a retard
[04:28] <brendan_> ok, jolt, can you open Adept?
[04:28] <Mrono> you and me both
[04:28] <brendan_> lol, well, I'm not much better
[04:28] <Jolt> brendan... i don't have the machine handy...
[04:28] <brendan_> yeah, I like synaptic too for somethings, it's got a better search function in some ways... but adept is installed by default with kubuntu
[04:28] <brendan_> oh
[04:29] <brendan_> um, it's a bit involved
[04:29] <Jolt> can you giv a short list of instructions
[04:29] <brendan_> I can try
[04:29] <brendan_> um
[04:29] <Jolt> or wud it be easier to come back tomo say, and walk through it
[04:29] <brendan_> yeah, could be
[04:29] <brendan_> um... ok, lemme see if I can summarize
[04:29] <brendan_> in a console:
[04:30] <brendan_> sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[04:30] <Jolt> don't i need the internet conn. for that?
[04:30] <brendan_> err, yes, probably
[04:30] <brendan_> you might get away with your install dvd/cd
[04:30] <Jolt> lol... that's wat i'm trying to get ;)
[04:30] <Jolt> ahh yes
[04:31] <Jolt> maybe
[04:31] <brendan_> ok, second command:
[04:31] <brendan_> cd /lib/modules/2.6.12/
[04:31] <Mrono> weird
[04:31] <Jolt> k
[04:32] <Mrono> my kopete is all messed up
[04:32] <Mrono> no accounts anymore
[04:32] <brendan_> err, sorry, a step before that
[04:32] <brendan_> cd /usr/src
[04:32] <Jolt> np
[04:32] <brendan_> tar -xjvf linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[04:32] <Jolt> 4th step? ^
[04:33] <brendan_> err, that last one should have a sudo before it
[04:33] <brendan_> that will untar the kernel sources for you
[04:33] <brendan_> yep
[04:33] <Mrono|kop> hmm
[04:33] <brendan_> you know what? I'm just going to put this in a text file for you
[04:33] <brendan_> gimme a sec
[04:33] <Mrono|kop> it worked
[04:33] <Jolt> k
[04:35] <brendan_> any idea what worked for Mrono?
[04:35] <Mrono> eh?
[04:35] <Mrono> for what
[04:36] <brendan_> oh, you're still here
[04:36] <Mrono> yeah
[04:36] <brendan_> oh, your kopete, you mean?
[04:36] <Mrono> yeah
[04:36] <Mrono> it's being weurd
[04:36] <brendan_> um, anyways Mrono, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around your problem
[04:36] <Mrono> lol
[04:37] <brendan_> it seems to me that your driver isn't behaving properly... did you compile it, or is it just part of kubuntu
[04:37] <Mrono> part of kubuntu
[04:38] <Mrono> that's right kopete
[04:38] <Mrono> DIE!
[04:39] <Mrono> ah
[04:39] <Mrono> downloading at 350kb/s is great
[04:40] <Mrono> I wonder how bad setting up linux would have been if I had been on dial-up
[04:40] <brendan_> yeah, that would be unfortunate, lol
[04:40] <brendan_> um, ok, if it's not detecting the hardware on its own, I suspect you may need to do a kernel recompile with a driver from source
[04:41] <brendan_> maybe there's something specific about your hardware that's not working, or maybe the kubuntu driver is old
[04:41] <brendan_> not sure
[04:41] <Mrono> um
[04:42] <Mrono> just how bad is it going to be to do a kernal compile
[04:42] <Mrono> ooo
[04:42] <Mrono> if I do that
[04:42] <Mrono> I need to add in some other things as well
[04:42] <Mrono> such as toshiba support
[04:42] <Tulga> hi all! I want install xgl on dapper 4. please suggest me good howto
[04:42] <Snake__> !xgl
[04:42] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:42] <Mrono> wait a minue
[04:44] <Mrono> you guys ever use kconfigure
[04:45] <Mrono> sigh
[04:45] <xwolf-> is there a way to disable kopete's auto-correction feat?
[04:45] <Mrono> i'm recompilile kopete
[04:45] <Mrono> huh
[04:46] <brendan_> ok jolt, I've got my *best guess* as to what will work
[04:46] <xwolf-> annoying thingie lol
[04:46] <Mrono> what is it
[04:46] <Jolt> brendan, k
[04:46] <Mrono> um ok
[04:46] <brendan_> http://bitsmithy.net/jolt.txt
[04:47] <brendan_> give or take a bit, those are the basic steps
[04:47] <brendan_> but it may or may not work very well... I'll try to be on tomorrow when you've got a computer to compare it against
[04:47] <brendan_> ok Mrono, sorry about that, I'm back now
[04:47] <Mrono> np
[04:47] <Jolt> much appreciated
[04:47] <brendan_> kernel compiles take a while if you're not used to them
[04:47] <brendan_> yep, no worries jolt
[04:47] <Mrono> i'm busy recompiling kopete
[04:48] <Jolt> brendan, what time GMT are you likely to be on tomo?
[04:48] <brendan_> they're a bit tricky to get your head around, because there're a lot of options (linux basically supports *everything* made in the last 30 years)
[04:48] <Tulga> !xgl
[04:48] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:49] <Mrono> i soooo want thato work
[04:49] <Mrono> but nooo
[04:49] <Mrono> mine has to be fussy
[04:49] <Mrono> hmmmmm
[04:49] <Mrono> define dapper
[04:49] <brendan_> um...not sure jolt, I've got some stuff I need to get done tomorrow, but I'm hoping to be on by maybe... 17:00 or 18:00 GMT
[04:49] <Mrono> !dapper
[04:49] <brendan_> next version after breezy
[04:50] <Mrono> ah
[04:50] <Mrono> flight cd 4
[04:50] <Jolt> brendan, k, again much appreciated... thanks
[04:50] <brendan_> yep, no worries
[04:50] <brendan_> glad to help
[04:50] <tristanmike> i'm back for more, lol
[04:51] <tristanmike> when I try to download a file with Konqueror, it opens Kate and doesn't save it, any suggestions/
[04:51] <tristanmike> ?
[04:51] <brendan_> err... it's probably on the server side, I'd guess their mime settings are wrong
[04:52] <tristanmike> kde-look.org?
[04:52] <brendan_> as to a solution, there's always right click/save link as
[04:52] <brendan_> lol, well, hard to say
[04:52] <tristanmike> that saves a file called "download.php"
[04:52] <brendan_> might be on your end then
[04:52] <brendan_> oh
[04:52] <brendan_> I see
[04:52] <brendan_> um... firefox?
[04:52] <adub_> how do you associate with an AP
[04:52] <brendan_> some other browser other than konqueror is probably the easiest solution
[04:53] <tristanmike> yeah, that works, but that's a "band-aid" but I suppose I can't expect sites to work with konqueror, but kde-look.org, lol
[04:53] <brendan_> not sure of the exact cause... usually it's because they don't have mime set up properly, and the file says it's download.php, not whatever extension is expected
[04:53] <brendan_> lol, yeah
[04:53] <brendan_> it's kinda a weird system
[04:54] <brendan_> I've run across that before, but I never really looked for a solution, since I usually use firefox anyways
[04:55] <brendan_> hmmm, those xgl videos do look cool
[04:58] <Mrono> man
[04:59] <Mrono> I sure do enjoy a good clean configure and make install
[04:59] <brendan_> lol, your kopete install?
[04:59] <Mrono> bah
[04:59] <Mrono> not yet
[04:59] <Mrono> still missing a few things
[04:59] <brendan_> ah
[04:59] <Mrono> it's like a scavenger hunt everythime i install something
[05:00] <Mrono> go find this file
[05:00] <Mrono> go find this lib
[05:00] <brendan_> anyways, as far as your kernel compile goes, I can help you through it if you like, but I think maybe not tonight, lol
[05:00] <brendan_> if you haven't done it before, it can take a while
[05:00] <Mrono> tomorrow
[05:00] <brendan_> yep, I'm hoping to be on
[05:00] <Mrono> fun thing
[05:01] <brendan_> I'm on reading week right now, so I've got a bit of time :)
[05:01] <Mrono> I installed a run as user program
[05:01] <Mrono> so I can run konq a root
[05:01] <Mrono> make my life easier
[05:01] <brendan_> well, you know that kdesu will do that?
[05:01] <Mrono> sure
[05:01] <Mrono> lol
[05:02] <brendan_> i.e. kdesu konqueror
[05:02] <Mrono> I saw it in synaptic
[05:02] <brendan_> ah, k
[05:02] <Mrono> everytime I open synaptic I install 20 things
[05:02] <brendan_> yeah, I know what you mean with that, lol
[05:02] <brendan_> I still do most of my work with apt-get, but the graphical tools are handy for seeing what's available
[05:03] <brendan_> though you can also do:
[05:03] <brendan_> apt-cache pkgnames | grep whatever
[05:03] <Mrono> lots of text confuses me
[05:03] <Mrono> lol
[05:03] <Mrono> that's why I like Kconfigure
[05:04] <brendan_> yeah, I used Debian long before ubuntu exists, so I did most of it from the command line
[05:04] <Mrono> ah
[05:04] <Mrono> i'm a linux newb
[05:04] <Mrono> so a gui is alot easier
[05:04] <brendan_> actually, at one point, I had Debian woody running on a 100 MHz, 16MB of ram pentium notebook
[05:05] <brendan_> no X, but it ran a webserver, ssh, etc. quite nicely
[05:05] <Mrono> lol
[05:05] <brendan_> it was fun
[05:05] <Mrono> I have win 2000 server running on a 233mhz 128mb ram
[05:05] <brendan_> even played mp3's if there wasn't much else running
[05:05] <Mrono> laptop
[05:05] <brendan_> hmmm, didn't know it'd run on that
[05:05] <Mrono> yep
[05:05] <Mrono> very well acually
[05:05] <Mrono> two windrops
[05:05] <brendan_> XP needs (supposedly) 300 MHz and 64 MB of ram
[05:05] <Mrono> 1 mirc
[05:06] <Mrono> and a few other misc
[05:06] <Mrono> and the processor is only at 3%
[05:06] <brendan_> of course, anything less than about 500 MHz and 128 MB of ram will barely boot
[05:06] <brendan_> and even that...
[05:06] <brendan_> cool
[05:06] <Mrono> I ran xp on that machine
[05:06] <Mrono> main computer
[05:06] <CellarDoor> my computer came with xp
[05:06] <CellarDoor> 256meg of ram
[05:06] <Mrono> if I didn't need mirc on it
[05:07] <CellarDoor> ran like a dog
[05:07] <brendan_> yeah, I'm running a debian server that I use as a remote X server/dvd movie machine, etc. in my room, but this computer that i'm on now is a thinkpad
[05:07] <Mrono> i'd run slax on it
[05:07] <brendan_> cool
[05:07] <Mrono> this suckers horrible
[05:07] <Mrono> and I hate toshiba for building it
[05:07] <brendan_> the thinkpad I'm on now is a 1500 MHz Centrino with 1400x1050 screen res and 512 mb of ram
[05:07] <Mrono> and you'll see why once you see the vid
[05:08] <brendan_> dual booting xp pro and kubuntu (I occasionally need XP)
[05:08] <Mrono> ditto
[05:08] <Mrono> woah
[05:08] <Mrono> they acually stopped selling finally
[05:09] <brendan_> over the course of the last couple of years, this computer has had knoppix, debian, gentoo, debian, more debian, and kubuntu on it
[05:09] <brendan_> done a few reinstalls, lol
[05:09] <brendan_> gentoo is fun
[05:09] <brendan_> but it's a lot of work
[05:09] <brendan_> really speedy though
[05:09] <brendan_> but kubuntu is so easy
[05:09] <CellarDoor> I bought this computer a couple of years ago... first PC I had bought in years... since Win98 ran fast on much lesser systems I was really annoyed to find WinXP running like a slug on an AthonXP2800+... everyone was telling me, "you really need 512meg for it to run well"... I thought "get lost" and started playing with Linux...
[05:09] <brendan_> lol, yeah
[05:10] <brendan_> I have mixed feelings about XP
[05:10] <brendan_> I think that XP and 98 SE are about the only decent versions made recently... used winME for a while and it really turned me off of Windows
[05:11] <Mrono> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006ZKIK6/102-6152066-1521714?v=glance&n=541966
[05:11] <brendan_> but for most people, I've gotta admit, Linux just isn't there yet
[05:11] <Mrono> that's mine
[05:11] <Mrono> win me is horrible
[05:11] <Mrono> black spot on windows
[05:11] <brendan_> crazy
[05:11] <brendan_> lol, yeah
[05:11] <Mrono> yeah
[05:11] <brendan_> although its defrag utility isn't bad
[05:11] <CellarDoor> I am "most people"
[05:11] <tristanmike> if I can interject, only not there because of third party support, like games and other popular software
[05:11] <CellarDoor> I'm running kubuntu
[05:11] <CellarDoor> its not that hard
[05:11] <Mrono> it's got a ati radon 9000
[05:12] <Mrono> 129mb SHARED mem
[05:12] <Mrono> 128*
[05:12] <brendan_> yeah, don't get me wrong, I like linux a lot better, lol, I run it for most things
[05:12] <Mrono> keep in mind
[05:12] <Mrono> this came out after the 9800
[05:12] <Mrono> and toshiba has the audasity to put a 9000 in it
[05:12] <CellarDoor> as someone who still considers himself a linux n00b, I'm much happier with kubuntu than I ever was with XP
[05:12] <brendan_> fair enough
[05:12] <Mrono> it will take awhile for me to be haooy with linux
[05:13] <CellarDoor> And I dont mind having to simply make sure I buy linux friendly hardware
[05:13] <brendan_> I've actually been playing with vmware player lately
[05:13] <Mrono> at the moment i'd be happy to scrap this and reformat with winxp pro
[05:14] <brendan_> well, for better or worse, XP has the market inertia
[05:14] <brendan_> but linux is certainly moving up
[05:14] <Mrono> I can't wait till beta 2 of vista comes out
[05:14] <Mrono> yeah
[05:14] <Mrono> I want KDE 4
[05:14] <Mrono> it's the vista of linux
[05:14] <brendan_> lol, indeed
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:15] <CellarDoor> thats one reason I think Apple wont open OSX up and sell it on PC's in general... apart from the fact that they've never done something like that, It would open up OSX to the same hardware support issues that face Linux... and I dare say that Linux would come of better unless Apple could muster broad support from hardware suppliers prior to such a release...
[05:15] <brendan_> the thing that bugs me about vista is that, from what I've read, you're going to need a workstation class video card just to be able to run the user interface
[05:15] <CellarDoor> brendan_: I think thats only if you want to use "aero glass"
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, and you can't really turn too much of it off either, from what I've heard.
[05:15] <brendan_> yeah, part of the advantage that apple's always had is that they build on closed hardware
[05:16] <Mrono> yeah
[05:16] <Mrono> brb
[05:16] <CellarDoor> no, you can still run Vista in "classic" mode (a la Win98 look)
[05:16] <brendan_> they know *exactly* what hardware the user's going to have, so they don't have to make everything run on anything
[05:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, OK
[05:16] <brendan_> yeah, true enough
[05:16] <brendan_> although, from what I've heard, most of the advances they're touting are user-interface oriented
[05:17] <CellarDoor> not advances
[05:17] <brendan_> though I'm sure there's lots of stuff under the hood as well
[05:17] <CellarDoor> ripoffs
[05:17] <brendan_> haha, true
[05:17] <CellarDoor> I cant think of one "feature" that Microsoft is gonna push on Vista that other OSes dont already have...
[05:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, there's those who invent, and those who make a living off taking others inventions. ;)
[05:18] <CellarDoor> I mean... image gallery ? Come on !
[05:18] <brendan_> lol
[05:18] <CellarDoor> Gadgets ? erm...
[05:18] <brendan_> they dropped all the "My ..." names, anc changed them to just "Computer" and "Documents"
[05:18] <CellarDoor> a la Widgets, a la Konfabulator...
[05:18] <CellarDoor> security ? *scoff*
[05:19] <brendan_> which, to be fair, apple also ripped off, didn't they?
[05:19] <CellarDoor> oh yeah
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> CellarDoor: Sure, but it has more security built in to it than XP does.
[05:19] <CellarDoor> CheeseBurgerMan: XP has security ?
[05:19] <CellarDoor> ;)
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Exactly. ;)
[05:19] <CellarDoor> hehe
[05:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> XP has the Windows firewall if you have SP2 - that's about it...
[05:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Vista adds WIndows Defender.
[05:20] <CellarDoor> hey you know about a couple of virii or worms that apparently can infect Apple systems ?
[05:20] <CellarDoor> recent things
[05:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> The "trojan-horse" thing?
[05:21] <CellarDoor> I was reading an article earlier that was from about middle of last year
[05:21] <brendan_> ooh, "Windows Defender"... exciting sounding
[05:21] <CellarDoor> that basically predicted such a thing would happen
[05:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yes, it's icon is even a shield! How can that be bad? :P
[05:21] <CellarDoor> Vista wont have "too much" security
[05:21] <natex> anyone have a reason not to use a single 250 GB partition?
[05:21] <CellarDoor> If it does, Microsoft wont make any money entering the market for security software ;)
[05:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Vista and "too much security" don't belong in the same sentence.
[05:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> natex: Yeah, I don't have a 250GB drive. :P
[05:22] <natex> :)
[05:22] <brendan_> well, to be fair, it *is* supposed to run with non-administrator privelages (a la every operating system other than windows)
[05:22] <brendan_> so I guess that could be considered to be a feature
[05:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> At least, an advancement.
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> to the modern day.
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> well
[05:23] <Mrono> I had Windows oncare
[05:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> maybe not 'modern' ideas there.
[05:23] <Mrono> onecare*
[05:23] <Mrono> good program
[05:23] <Mrono> antivirus
[05:23] <Mrono> firewall
[05:23] <CellarDoor> What really erks me is that M$ with all their billions, cant to anything better than rip off others (and that, belatedly)... the propaganda is always the same, and people keep falling for it... Ive seen it all before, back in the 90's... I assure you, they havent changed...
[05:23] <Mrono> and i had microsoft antispyware beta
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Mrono: Oh. I use AntiVir. MS antispyware, Spybot, Adware, and Kerio Personal Firewall
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Adaware*
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:24] <brendan_> http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/02/microsoft_antispyware_deleting_1.html
[05:24] <Mrono> uh
[05:24] <brendan_> this is a great article on so many levels...
[05:24] <brendan_> lol
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Although I haven't used any of them in awhile - Windows won't detect my wireless network. :)
[05:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol, I heard about that.
[05:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hilarious. :)
[05:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> (or however you spell that)
[05:25] <CellarDoor> brendan_: hahaha thats so funny.... not that Microsoft havent done anything like that before ;)
[05:25] <CellarDoor> I smell a court case on the horizon
[05:25] <Mrono> arg
[05:25] <brendan_> haha, no, it's "beta quality" software
[05:26] <Mrono> no matter how many packages i install i still get
[05:26] <Mrono> configure: WARNING: Could not find ilbc headers or libs. Please install ilbc package from http://www.linphone.org if you want iLBC codec support in Kopete Jabber plugin.
[05:26] <CellarDoor> hehe
[05:26] <brendan_> that means that MIcrosoft isn't held accountable for anything
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Even if it is Giant Anti-Spyware - which was a non-beta program.
[05:26] <brendan_> huh
[05:26] <brendan_> I've never compiled kopete
[05:26] <CellarDoor> I love it
[05:26] <Mrono> i've got the package
[05:26] <Mrono> i just installed it twice
[05:26] <CellarDoor> Microsoft spokesperson: "oops, wonder how that got there"
[05:26] <brendan_> on the other hand, do you actually use voip in jabber through kopete?
[05:26] <Mrono> no but
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Mrono: I know how you feel - Firefox does that for me, can't find a lib that I actually have.
[05:27] <Mrono> google chat uses it
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wierd.
[05:27] <brendan_> ah
[05:27] <brendan_> fair enough, hadn't thought of that
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Gaim! ;)
[05:27] <Mrono> kopeteutils_private.cpp:50: warning: unused parameter 'action'
[05:27] <Mrono> kopetelistview.cpp: In constructor 'Kopete::UI::ListView::ListView::Private::Private()':
[05:27] <Mrono> kopetelistview.cpp:160: warning: 'Kopete::UI::ListView::ListView::Private::mouseNavigation' will be initialized after
[05:27] <Mrono> kopetelistview.cpp:131: warning:   'QStyle::SubControl Kopete::UI::ListView::ListView::Private::pressedControl'
[05:27] <Mrono> kopetelistview.cpp:162: warning:   when initialized here
[05:27] <Mrono> fair
[05:27] <CellarDoor> hey, if there's a google chat plugin for kopete, let me know :D
[05:27] <Mrono> it IS beta
[05:28] <Mrono> get the beta
[05:28] <Mrono> i think it's in there
[05:28] <CellarDoor> last time I looked they only supported gaim
[05:28] <tristanmike> there's a possiblity that microsoft will have ad's on their welcome screen for vista too
[05:28] <CellarDoor> argh
[05:28] <CellarDoor> and music ?
[05:29] <tristanmike> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Antitrust-Case-In-The-Making-17865.shtml
[05:29] <Mrono> Kopete now features experimental support for Google Talk voice chats.
[05:29] <CellarDoor> please dont say there's music
[05:29] <brendan_> hehe, for some reason I find that funny and not worrying
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> CellarDoor: As Mrono said, Google Talk uses the Jabber protocol, so it should work with any Jabber client.
[05:29] <CellarDoor> Mrono: excellent
[05:29] <CellarDoor> oh ok
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> Heh, guess we need an Adblock for Windows now, and not just Firefox. ;)
[05:29] <CellarDoor> pardon my n00bness
[05:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP - we're all n00bs at some point.
[05:29] <Mrono> you know whats better then a quick clean install?
[05:30] <CellarDoor> :)
[05:30] <Mrono> an install that sails through after you've had to hunt for 3-4 packages
[05:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> Mrono:  A quick clean install with ads!
[05:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh. :P
[05:30] <Mrono> ha!
[05:30] <Mrono> lol
[05:31] <brendan_> yeah, I know what you mean
[05:31] <brendan_> it's kinda satisfying to finally get it to work
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah.
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> I spent two days trying to get my wireless working in here.
[05:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Felt great when it worked. ;)
[05:31] <Mrono> woah
[05:32] <robotgeek_away>  /nick robotgeek
[05:32] <Mrono> is it possible to run KDE on mac
[05:32] <brendan_> I feel like I need a cooler name... that underscore is starting to get rediculous
[05:32] <Mrono> true
[05:32] <brendan_> afaik, it is
[05:32] <robotgeek> Mrono: i tht i read it somewhere
[05:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Heh
[05:32] <Mrono> darn
[05:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> A friend of mine is trying to do that too. :P
[05:33] <Mrono> man
[05:33] <Mrono> this is quite the install
[05:33] <Mrono> still going
[05:33] <CellarDoor> ah qca-tls is already installed... excellent
[05:33] <CellarDoor> ooh this is exciting
[05:34] <flamingmonkey> huh, well, who would have thought that'd be in use
[05:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> I've actually never had CheeseBurgerMan be in use. :D
[05:35] <brendan_> hmmm
[05:35] <Mrono> lol
[05:35] <brendan_> lol
[05:35] <brendan_> ah well
[05:35] <brendan_> I'll have to come up with something sleek and exciting sounding
[05:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> brendan_: become greaseballofdoom
[05:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> :D
[05:35] <brendan_> you know, like with 6000 on the end
[05:36] <Mrono> darnit
[05:36] <Mrono> it didn't work
[05:36] <brendan_> lol, nah, I'm good
[05:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[05:36] <brendan_> greaseballofdoom is probably taken anyways, such a prime name and all
[05:36] <Mrono> but you know what
[05:36] <CellarDoor> erm.. what is google's talk server ?
[05:37] <brendan_> I feel like it's talk.google.com
[05:37] <CellarDoor> I just used talk.google.com and got an unknown host
[05:37] <brendan_> but I havent' checked that
[05:37] <brendan_> ah
[05:37] <Mrono> idk
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> brendan_: Yeah, those grease balls are everywhere.
[05:37] <flamingxmonkey> well, that one's not taken
[05:37] <CellarDoor> oh... my jabber ID is prolly already in use...
[05:38] <Mrono> hey
[05:38] <Mrono> how do you install .jar
[05:40] <flamingxmonkey> usually a .jar is just runnable with the java runtime
[05:40] <flamingxmonkey> java *.jar
[05:40] <flamingxmonkey> or something like that
[05:40] <flamingxmonkey> you might need to give it the path
[05:40] <Mrono> uh
[05:41] <CellarDoor> I'm not getting anywhere here
[05:42] <flamingxmonkey> hmmm, ok, well, I've got this name registered now, so I guess this is what I'll use
[05:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol, that works.
[05:43] <flamingxmonkey> yeah, it's fun at least
[05:43] <CellarDoor> oh... you have to have a google mail address to use google talk ?
[05:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> I guess. I've never bothered with it.
[05:44] <CellarDoor> what a pain
[05:44] <flamingxmonkey> yeah, I think you do
[05:44] <CellarDoor> "dont be evil" my arse
[05:44] <flamingxmonkey> lol
[05:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[05:44] <flamingxmonkey> well, they've put themselves in a bit of a position lately
[05:45] <gamma> cups works for me on dapper :D!!!
[05:47] <Snake__> cups?
[05:47] <flamingxmonkey> common unix printing system
[05:47] <Snake__> ah
[05:47] <gamma> only issue i have now with dapper is kaffeine sometimes crashes konqueror using embedded files from websites
[05:47] <gamma> not exactly sure how to fix it either..
[05:49] <CellarDoor> argh
[05:49] <CellarDoor> there doesnt seem to be any sign up info on the gmail page other than "sign up using your mobile phone"
[05:49] <CellarDoor> what the hell is that !
[05:50] <gamma> CellarDoor: give me your current email addy ill send you an invite
[05:51] <Mrono> oh
[05:51] <Mrono> I couldhave as well
[05:52] <gamma> i think anyone could.. 99 invites left :P
[05:52] <gamma> i think they should keep the registration system like this
[05:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol, I think I have that many too
[05:52] <flamingxmonkey> I probably do, lol
[05:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Together, we can invite the channel! ;)
[05:54] <flamingxmonkey> hmmm, yeah 100 left
[05:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:55] <gamma> you could send invites to yourself and have 1billion invites after a while :P
[05:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:55] <gamma> for a massive 1billion*2GB of storage
[05:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, but I haven't even used up my current HDD. :)
[05:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Although it'd be a nice backup. :P
[05:57] <gamma> how do you guys like my current ss? http://home.cfl.rr.com/gamma/images/ss-kde.png
[05:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Looks good.
[05:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nice high resolution. :P
[05:59] <flamingxmonkey> if I recall correctly, there was a project a little while back to make a linux kernel driver to allow you to use multiple, distributed gmail accounts as a hard drive
[05:59] <flamingxmonkey> so you could chain them together, and just mount them like a standard block device
[06:00] <_mefisto> kontact keeps crashing on me with a sigsegv
[06:00] <gamma> flamingxmonkey: yea.. i remember that.. you could mount gmail accounts as hard drives
[06:00] <flamingxmonkey> http://www.tipmonkies.com/2005/05/08/use-gmail-as-an-extra-hard-drive/
[06:00] <gamma> 1600x1200 on a 15" laptop.. gotta love it
[06:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wow
[06:01] <admrl_> amarok 1.4!!!
[06:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> I have a 14" running 1280x768
[06:01] <flamingxmonkey> yeah, I'm running 1400x1050, but you outdue me by one :)
[06:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8695/snapshot28aj.png <---My screenshot
[06:02] <gamma> i don't mine 1024x768 as long as i'm using a good window manager
[06:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Whoa. I just tried to type into the Gaim on my screenshot. :P
[06:02] <gamma> in kde i dont even use multiple desktops.. too much of a pain to manage
[06:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> gamma: same.
[06:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> i don't want to think about what's on what desktop.
[06:02] <gamma> CheeseBurgerMan: why aren't you using konversation?
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> I like Gaim. :P
[06:03] <gamma> eww :P
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:03] <gamma> gaim-2.0 looks gross and breaks everything good in gaim-1.5
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> I don't have 2.0 ;)
[06:04] <gamma> good man :P
[06:04] <gamma> admrl_: yea amarok1.4 rocks
[06:04] <gamma> i used to hate amarok, but i must have been stupid before
[06:04] <CellarDoor> finally... my gmail account is registered.... arrrgghhhgh !
[06:05] <gamma> osd, query, podcasts and dynamic mode rules
[06:05] <admrl_> ive been working on graphic design for amarok
[06:05] <CellarDoor> dynamic mode is rather cool
[06:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> AmaroK doesn't seem to recognise the soundcard, but I've gotta restore my backup and get my music back before I can see if it was a quirk in my install.
[06:05] <gamma> CheeseBurgerMan: try another backend..
[06:06] <Snake__> I dont understand how it owrks
[06:06] <CellarDoor> yeah
[06:06] <Snake__> or what it does for that matter
[06:06] <CellarDoor> get rid of gstreamer
[06:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> sir, yes sir!
[06:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[06:06] <Snake__> Get xine
[06:06] <gamma> Snake__: it's basically random mode, but it always keeps the list full
[06:06] <CellarDoor> its erm... well... dynamic :D
[06:06] <gamma> xine ftw
[06:06] <Snake__> gamma: I just tell it to put my whole collection in the player..
[06:06] <Snake__> lol
[06:06] <CellarDoor> It adds songs to the list it thinks you like
[06:06] <gamma> my current amarok theme is slow and laggy, but looks so cool
[06:07] <gamma> Snake__: how many songs is that roughly?
[06:07] <CellarDoor> my amarok is unthemed atm
[06:07] <CellarDoor> plain ol amarok
[06:07] <gamma> ew :P
[06:07] <Snake__> gamma: collection count is at 1306 tracks
[06:07] <CellarDoor> hehe
[06:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Only 1300? ;)
[06:07] <Snake__> Yea :-/
[06:07] <Snake__> lol
[06:07] <Snake__> Im workin on uppin it ;)
[06:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:08] <CellarDoor> but I'm using baghira for my kde, so plain looks alright
[06:08] <gamma> i useed to add my whole playlist like that, but it was too annoying to shift between tracks and i don't like to listen to everything in order.. or everything totally random
[06:08] <gamma> CellarDoor: got a ss?
[06:08] <Snake__> gamma: how do I use dynamic mode?
[06:08] <CellarDoor> ss ?
[06:08] <Snake__> screenshot
[06:08] <gamma> are you on 1.4? or 1.3.8?
[06:08] <CellarDoor> oh
[06:08] <Snake__> gamma: me?
[06:08] <gamma> yea
[06:08] <Snake__> 1.3.8 is my regular player
[06:09] <Snake__> but I been playin with 1.4
[06:09] <Snake__> Freakin awesome player
[06:09] <Snake__> (just give me directions to 1.3.8 :) )
[06:09] <gamma> go to playlists and select random mix in dynamic mode
[06:09] <gamma> or there should be a little cube icon in the status bar on the bottom
[06:10] <Mrono> hey
[06:10] <Snake__> wow...this isnt to smart is it..
[06:10] <Snake__> lol
[06:10] <Mrono> how do I install .jar
[06:10] <gamma> Mrono: like a firefox theme?
[06:10] <Mrono> no
[06:10] <Mrono> like a program I downloaded
[06:11] <gamma> oh.. i thought jars were java zips
[06:11] <CellarDoor> gamma: do you want this screenshot ?
[06:11] <gamma> oh
[06:11] <gamma> yea
[06:11] <flamingxmonkey> http://bitsmithy.net/screen.png if anybody's interested
[06:11] <gamma> didn't see the dcc :P
[06:11] <CellarDoor> my desktop is pretty ordinary
[06:11] <Mrono> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=126211&package_id=139264&release_id=369397
[06:12] <flamingxmonkey> mine's simple enough
[06:12] <flamingxmonkey> err, or not
[06:12] <gamma> Mrono: try java -jar jarfile.here
[06:12] <Mrono> http://mrono.net/main/photos/computer/desktop02232006.png
[06:12] <Mrono> mine
[06:12] <Mrono> I can extract it with ark
[06:12] <flamingxmonkey> seems it didn't update my new screenshot
[06:12] <Snake__> flamingxmonkey: I like your window manager
[06:12] <gamma> flamingxmonkey: intersting color choices :P
[06:12] <CellarDoor> ah not bad
[06:12] <Snake__> gamma: wanna see intresting colors?
[06:13] <Mrono> is that KDE?
[06:13] <flamingxmonkey> is that the thing with the purple stripe?
[06:13] <admrl_> snake hes using kde
[06:13] <gamma> yea
[06:13] <flamingxmonkey> that's the screenshot I was working on with the guy earlier
[06:13] <Snake__> hang on
[06:13] <flamingxmonkey> I actually use crystal normally... seems that the screenshot didn't update properly
[06:13] <Snake__> admrl_: I ment his window theme
[06:13] <Snake__> okay?
[06:13] <Snake__> lol
[06:13] <gamma> Mrono: that shroom ss is like 7 years old ;) still looks good though
[06:13] <admrl_> haha
[06:13] <Gyoza> I'm building a PC for my brother.  nforce2.  X randomly restarts.  What the heck?
[06:13] <gamma> CellarDoor: looks good
[06:13] <CellarDoor> Mrono is that crystal windecos ?
[06:14] <Mrono> just crystal
[06:14] <Snake__> gamma: here
[06:14] <Snake__> http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6357/sweet23dr.jpg
[06:14] <Snake__> mine
[06:14] <Snake__> ;)
[06:14] <Mrono> shroom?
[06:14] <gamma> my progress bars @ amarok don't work
[06:14] <gamma> dunno how yours are working
[06:14] <CellarDoor> whoah
[06:14] <Snake__> hehe
[06:14] <CellarDoor> hey I dont mind that Snake__
[06:14] <gamma> Snake__: is that your everday desktop?
[06:15] <Snake__> gamma: It was for about 3 months
[06:15] <Snake__> gamma: its blue now
[06:15] <CellarDoor> its loud and erm... pink... but I like it
[06:15] <Snake__> :)
[06:15] <admrl_> lol
[06:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:15] <CellarDoor> oh
[06:15] <gamma> i'm in a dark room and my shirt just glowed purple when i opened that window
[06:15] <gamma> very BRIGHT
[06:15] <CellarDoor> I see what you've done
[06:15] <CellarDoor> I used to have that wallpaper
[06:15] <arthomps> anybody got input on getting audigy z2 driver to be used instead of onboard pos sound?
[06:15] <Snake__> LOL gamma !
[06:16] <Snake__> gamma: you would like my flux box ;) Pure black with gray text :)
[06:16] <gamma> haha that's too dark :P
[06:16] <admrl_> oh i used to LOVE fluxbox
[06:16] <gamma> i tried a peach desktop once
[06:16] <Snake__> how did that work out?
[06:16] <gamma> it was alright.. easy on the eyes and kinda relaxing
[06:17] <gamma> red desktops or bright blue make me frusterated
[06:17] <CellarDoor> I like xfce
[06:17] <Snake__> heh
[06:17] <CellarDoor> its a littly crashy atm though
[06:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Mine's green, black, and purple. :P
[06:17] <admrl_> mine is greenish right now
[06:17] <admrl_> i did a really full vista like look
[06:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Desktop that is, not window manager. ;)
[06:17] <gamma> http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1938&c=3 was my old desktop
[06:18] <CellarDoor> Snake__: what are you using as a dockapp at the bottom of your desktop ?
[06:19] <Snake__> CellarDoor: Kicker
[06:19] <admrl_> http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/8080/vistalook13bo.jpg
[06:19] <Snake__> CellarDoor: I have kicker all over the place
[06:19] <admrl_> this is an old vista one i did
[06:19] <CellarDoor> oh
[06:19] <gamma> admrl_: is that true transparency?
[06:19] <Snake__> This is my current, and will stay like this one for a while
[06:19] <Snake__> http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/773/untitled8by.jpg
[06:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> And that is what happens when you press "signoff" in Gaim instead of "Preferences"
[06:19] <gamma> Snake__: wtf is that hting in the top left corner?
[06:20] <gamma> haha
[06:20] <Snake__> gamma: just what it says :)
[06:20] <Snake__> its a sk theme I made
[06:20] <flamingxmonkey> hmm, got my proper screenshot up
[06:20] <gamma> no the bar graph thingy i mean
[06:20] <flamingxmonkey> http://bitsmithy.net/screen1.png
[06:20] <Snake__> gamma: Hmm? OHH
[06:20] <Snake__> Thats my wifi
[06:20] <admrl_> gamma where...?
[06:21] <Snake__> Handy lil tool
[06:21] <gamma> oho
[06:21] <gamma> admrl_: in your vista shot
[06:21] <admrl_> the toolbar..?
[06:21] <admrl_> i mean panel
[06:21] <gamma> nooo the windows
[06:21] <gamma> or is that via composite
[06:21] <admrl_> no there isnt transparency
[06:21] <Snake__> does vista have trans?
[06:22] <admrl_> i think it will
[06:22] <admrl_> im not going to try
[06:22] <admrl_> it
[06:22] <admrl_> i know that :D
[06:22] <Snake__> me neither
[06:22] <gamma> http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png is a nice desktop
[06:22] <Snake__> admrl_: MS is going to be charging for their spyware software now
[06:23] <gamma> that's going to be free i heard
[06:23] <Snake__> gamma: you herd wrong
[06:23] <Snake__> hang on
[06:23] <admrl_> im sticking with linux
[06:23] <Snake__> same
[06:23] <admrl_> i think im going to try openSuSe
[06:23] <gamma> i thought they were going to bundle it with vista or something
[06:23] <Snake__> admrl_: suse is very nice
[06:23] <admrl_> they have apt
[06:23] <admrl_> :D!!!
[06:23] <gamma> admrl_: don't try the betas
[06:23] <Snake__> gamma: yes for $50 a year
[06:24] <flamingxmonkey> the one you just posted looks nice, gamma
[06:24] <gamma> i got rid of my windows partition so i could care list
[06:24] <Mrono> yeah
[06:24] <gamma> thx
[06:24] <flamingxmonkey> it's nice and clean
[06:24] <Snake__> gamma: http://www.zdnetindia.com/news/business/stories/134053.html
[06:24] <robotgeek> 
[06:24] <Mrono> btw
[06:24] <Mrono> gamma
[06:24] <Mrono> what's the controller for amarok by your start menu
[06:24] <admrl_> Snake__: wasnt it you that wanted to know how to watch videos on the command line
[06:25] <Snake__> lol yea
[06:25] <admrl_> i foudn that out awhile back
[06:25] <gamma> Snake__: that's their antivirus.. not spyware :P
[06:25] <admrl_> install mplayer and aalib
[06:25] <Snake__> gamma: thats their whole deal.
[06:25] <admrl_> mplayer -vo aa *video*
[06:25] <Snake__> gamma: read it
[06:25] <admrl_> renders in ascii :D
[06:25] <Snake__> admrl_: sweet, ill check it out
[06:25] <Snake__> :)
[06:25] <gamma> oh.. yea but they also said they're going to have the spyware thing seperate for download too or something..
[06:26] <Snake__> who know..they will be charging to update thier OS in due time
[06:26] <admrl_> or if you install caca mplayer -vo caca *video*
[06:26] <gamma> Mrono: what.. the launcher thingy?
[06:26] <admrl_> for ansi
[06:26] <Mrono> the amarok controller
[06:26] <tristanmike> gamma, how do you get the amarok highlighted selection rounded like that?
[06:26] <Snake__> admrl_: no aalib in repos??
[06:26] <admrl_> libaa1..?
[06:26] <admrl_> maybe
[06:26] <admrl_> tristanmike thats 1.4 beta
[06:27] <Snake__> !info aalib1
[06:27] <ubotu> aalib1: (ascii art library - transitional package), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.4p5-28ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 28 kB
[06:27] <Snake__> thats it
[06:27] <admrl_> i made the currenttrackbar
[06:27] <gamma> tristanmike: that's the new amarok-1.4bta1
[06:27] <admrl_> caca renders in color
[06:27] <gamma> beta*
[06:27] <tristanmike> mmmm...
[06:27] <Snake__> admrl_: is caca better?
[06:27] <admrl_> no
[06:28] <admrl_> it renders in color tho
[06:28] <admrl_> lol
[06:28] <Snake__> ah ok
[06:28] <Snake__> now I cant find my vids
[06:28] <Snake__> lol
[06:28] <admrl_> for awhile i even had my webcam rendering in ascii
[06:28] <Snake__> nice
[06:28] <flamingxmonkey> that's great
[06:28] <admrl_> haha
[06:28] <gamma> Snake__: http://www.google.com/search?q=microsoft+antispyware+to+remain+free&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[06:28] <gamma> :P
[06:29] <Snake__> lol
[06:29] <tristanmike> Snake__, how did you get the graident in your bottom panel?
[06:29] <admrl_> its just an image
[06:29] <admrl_> it will stretch it to the right size
[06:29] <Mrono> the amarok controller, how
[06:29] <admrl_> use inkscape make a gradient
[06:29] <Snake__> very seet admrl_
[06:29] <Snake__> sweet*
[06:30] <gamma> Mrono: the tray icon?
[06:30] <admrl_> http://admrlpix.tripod.com/dktoppix/asciicam1.jpg
[06:30] <Mrono> no
[06:30] <Mrono> the ipod looking thing
[06:30] <Mrono> it looks like itunes when it's in mini mode
[06:30] <admrl_> thats my webcam
[06:30] <Snake__> lol
[06:31] <Mrono> lol
[06:31] <admrl_> you gotta step back to see it
[06:31] <Snake__> its amazing how fast this thing renders
[06:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[06:31] <gamma> what ss are you looking at Mrono?
[06:31] <admrl_> ya i know
[06:31] <Mrono> http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png
[06:31] <Mrono> that's yours isn't it
[06:31] <Snake__> admrl_: and its only using 49% of my lil P3's power
[06:32] <admrl_> haha
[06:32] <admrl_> we have a new no cover icon in amarok today
[06:32] <admrl_> the svn
[06:32] <Mrono> I don't think I want to bleed
[06:32] <Snake__> admrl_: I wonder if that works in a full CLI enviroment..
[06:32] <flamingxmonkey> seems that it should
[06:33] <flamingxmonkey> if it's really just text
[06:33] <flamingxmonkey> anyways, I'm off all
[06:33] <flamingxmonkey> cheers
[06:33] <Snake__> Brb im gonna find out
[06:34] <gamma> Mrono: oh no.. that's some other guys
[06:34] <Mrono> oh
[06:34] <gamma> i dunno what the player is.. probably like a superkaramba thingy
[06:34] <Snake__> HOLY CRAP IT DOES
[06:34] <Snake__> admrl_: LOL I CAN WATCH VIDS ON SERVER INSTALLS
[06:34] <gamma> brb
[06:34] <admrl_> Snake__ what are you can you do..?
[06:35] <admrl_> ive never heard of cli
[06:35] <Snake__> admrl_: are you being serious.
[06:35] <Snake__> rofl.
[06:35] <admrl_> lol i am
[06:35] <CellarDoor> admrl_: command line interface
[06:35] <Snake__> Command Line Input...terminal...console..
[06:35] <Snake__> kik
[06:35] <Snake__> lol*
[06:35] <admrl_> ok
[06:35] <CellarDoor> or that yeah
[06:35] <CellarDoor> :P
[06:35] <robotgeek> !cli
[06:35] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[06:36] <Snake__> admrl_: I just alt+ctrl+f1 and watched the movie
[06:36] <admrl_> never heard anyone call it that
[06:36] <Snake__> its pretty sweet
[06:36] <admrl_> Snake__ i know
[06:36] <CellarDoor> ah see, ubotu says I was right
[06:36] <CellarDoor> ;)
[06:36] <admrl_> thats how i use it
[06:36] <Snake__> Hehe
[06:36] <CellarDoor> Snake__: you didnt know you could play vids from a bash prompt ?
[06:36] <admrl_> :0-:7 are my friends
[06:37] <Snake__> ClayG: I knew I could, I didnt know how tho
[06:37] <admrl_> you cant do it in konsole or terminal
[06:37] <Snake__> Wow Mplayer is aawesome
[06:37] <Snake__> hehe
[06:37] <CellarDoor> I hate mplayer
[06:37] <admrl_> Snake__ what do you use for music..?
[06:37] <Snake__> admrl_: amarok
[06:37] <admrl_> mp3123..?
[06:37] <admrl_> i mean in the terminal
[06:38] <admrl_> caca looses it in the terminal tho
[06:38] <Snake__> admrl_: dont really play music in the terminal
[06:38] <admrl_> oh
[06:38] <CellarDoor> $play coolmusic.mp3
[06:38] <admrl_> aplay works too
[06:38] <CellarDoor> aplay ?
[06:38] <admrl_> yep
[06:38] <Snake__> for?
[06:38] <CellarDoor> whats the difference ?
[06:38] <admrl_> aplay -t WAV song.wav
[06:40] <CellarDoor> I'm actually getting into The Church's Starfish album
[06:40] <CellarDoor> not sure if this is a good thing
[06:40] <admrl_> at my school ive been using terminal for alot
[06:40] <admrl_> im making scripts for a radio station that doesnt need to be touched
[06:40] <admrl_> just let it go
[06:41] <admrl_> where you can vote for songs and such
[06:41] <CellarDoor> I'm gonna buy a book to work my way through
[06:41] <admrl_> work your way through what..?
[06:41] <CellarDoor> I know there's online resources, but I like the idea of working my way through a book
[06:41] <Snake|Sleep> Night guys
[06:41] <CellarDoor> nite Snake|Sleep
[06:41] <admrl_> CellarDoor bash..?
[06:41] <Snake|Sleep> Thanks admrl_ for the aa hint :)
[06:41] <admrl_> oh yep
[06:41] <admrl_> anytime
[06:42] <admrl_> CellarDoor if your just learning bash and dont know much about programming learn arrays and loops
[06:42] <admrl_> they are the most important thing you can learn starting out
[06:42] <CellarDoor> admrl_: I'm thinking of getting this - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0131478230/qid=1140669418/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-2402939-9300824?s=books&v=glance&n=283155
[06:43] <admrl_> get one that only covers bash
[06:43] <admrl_> i made the mistake of getting a unix shell book
[06:43] <CellarDoor> I'm a n00b, and the reviews of this book are pretty good
[06:43] <admrl_> do you know what a shell is..?
[06:43] <CellarDoor> yeah
[06:43] <admrl_> bash or ash and such
[06:43] <CellarDoor> yeah
[06:43] <admrl_> goes on and on
[06:43] <admrl_> well learn bash
[06:44] <admrl_> thats the linux shell
[06:44] <admrl_> if you get a book that covers to many shells it gets really confusing trying to read the book
[06:44] <CellarDoor> yeah it covers bash and tcsh
[06:44] <admrl_> ya that should be good
[06:45] <CellarDoor> yeah pretty much everything uses bash
[06:45] <admrl_> not too expencive either
[06:45] <admrl_> expensive*
[06:45] <admrl_> :)
[06:45] <CellarDoor> :)
[06:45] <CellarDoor> I see some shocking spelling on IRC
[06:45] <admrl_> lol oh ya..?
[06:46] <admrl_> whats the worst youve seen
[06:46] <CellarDoor> no
[06:46] <CellarDoor> :P
[06:46] <admrl_> lol
[06:46] <admrl_> i reallly need to rework the current track bar in amarok
[06:47] <CellarDoor> A Practical Guide to Linux: Commands, Editors, and Shell Programming. Looks good. I need to start learning something...
[06:47] <admrl_> i just noticed how bad it looks in one of those screenshots
[06:47] <CellarDoor> lemme se
[06:47] <CellarDoor> *lemmy see
[06:47] <admrl_> http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4354/screenshot20060221busy6ht.png
[06:48] <admrl_> idk whos screenshot that is
[06:48] <admrl_> but the bar shows a grey gradient in it
[06:48] <CellarDoor> oh yeah I saw that shot
[06:48] <CellarDoor> it has potential
[06:48] <admrl_> its becuz when i made the bar i made it grey
[06:48] <admrl_> and the gradient wasnt strong enough or something
[06:49] <admrl_> or maybe to strong you shouldnt see grey thru it its jsut the way we are overlaying the color it makes it show up
[06:49] <admrl_> like if you do a real overlay then it shows up perfect
[06:49] <CellarDoor> I dont even have a clue how to make an amarok theme
[06:50] <admrl_> im not talking about the theme
[06:50] <CellarDoor> oh
[06:50] <admrl_> i do graphic design on amarok
[06:50] <CellarDoor> ooh
[06:50] <admrl_> yep yep
[06:50] <CellarDoor> is this for the next version ?
[06:50] <admrl_> yep
[06:50] <CellarDoor> cool
[06:51] <Tulga> hi all! I Installed compiz-kde on dapper 4. but startx not working now. :(
[06:51] <admrl_> Tulga how long have you been using linux..?
[06:51] <Tulga> admrl_: 1 year
[06:51] <admrl_> lol ok
[06:52] <admrl_> if you where new i was going to say dont use dapper :)
[06:52] <Mrono> who mentioned alt+ctrl+f11
[06:52] <Tulga> admrl_: but I want to see xgl
[06:52] <Mrono> !xgl
[06:52] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[06:52] <Mrono> !tell tulga about xgl
[06:52] <admrl_> Mrono me and Snake__ where talking about it
[06:52] <CellarDoor> admrl_: I baghira'ify amarok and it looks loverly :P
[06:52] <Mrono> just what does it do
[06:53] <Mrono> I had to do a hard reboot
[06:53] <admrl_> Mrono ctrl-alt-f1
[06:53] <admrl_> not f11
[06:53] <admrl_> it takes you to a fullscreen terminal
[06:53] <Mrono> ah
[06:53] <CellarDoor> I've been using kubuntu for about a year now
[06:53] <Mrono> and how do you exit it
[06:53] <admrl_> then ctrl-alt-f7
[06:53] <CellarDoor> This is the longest I've used any distro... thats saying something
[06:54] <admrl_> CellarDoor me to
[06:54] <admrl_> i couldnt pick until i used ubuntu
[06:54] <CellarDoor> yah
[06:54] <admrl_> but sadly it is only becuz it uses a debian package manager
[06:54] <admrl_> not becuz ubuntu is amazing :D
[06:54] <admrl_> lol
[06:55] <admrl_> since ive been using it ive found a few problems i dont like
[06:55] <CellarDoor> I was considering Suse till I had a look at kubuntu... and I fell in love with apt... and kubuntu is simple... helps someone like me get to grips with things
[06:55] <admrl_> CellarDoor Suse now uses apt
[06:56] <CellarDoor> yeah I've heard about that
[06:56] <CellarDoor> which is good
[06:56] <InteliWasp> any of you guys good with wireless cards and non-satndard inf files?
[06:56] <admrl_> i need to do a few icons before i go to sleep i still have like 4 undone currenttrack_bar icons for amarok to do
[06:57] <admrl_> haha
[06:57] <CellarDoor> I thought it was interesting that Suse 10 lets you install RPM's from any RPM distro too... though you'll have to put up with dependancy messages...
[06:57] <admrl_> 12:57 and i start working
[06:57] <Mrono> hmmm
[06:57] <Mrono> stupid
[06:57] <Mrono> me
[06:57] <CellarDoor> Suse with apt sounds good... but its using kde 3.4
[06:58] <Mrono> I hit it again before seeing how to get out of it
[06:58] <Mrono> lol
[06:58] <admrl_> so does ubuntu
[06:58] <admrl_> but you can upgrade kde
[06:58] <admrl_> im using 3.5.1
[06:58] <CellarDoor> I'm using 3.5
[06:58] <Mrono> 3.4.3 here
[06:58] <CellarDoor> do I need to update my sources for 3.5.1 ?
[06:58] <admrl_> lol if you want
[06:58] <admrl_> only bug fixes
[06:59] <CellarDoor> yeah I wasnt sure if it was worth it
[06:59] <admrl_> 3.4 to 3.5 was amazing
[06:59] <admrl_> im still in heaven from that update
[06:59] <CellarDoor> roll on KDE4 :D
[06:59] <admrl_> haha
[06:59] <admrl_> going to need to eventually
[07:00] <CellarDoor> I cant wait
[07:00] <admrl_> im doing some things for kalzium and if i want to see anything i need qt4
[07:00] <Mrono> really
[07:00] <CellarDoor> yeh
[07:00] <Mrono> whats changed from 3.4to 3.5
[07:00] <InteliWasp> uh... can you help me or do I need to go somewere else?
[07:01] <admrl_> InteliWasp maybe check the forums i dont know anything about it
[07:01] <CellarDoor> InteliWasp: sorry, thats a bit beyond my knowledge :P
[07:01] <admrl_> Mrono alot
[07:01] <admrl_> its a need
[07:01] <InteliWasp> oh well, thanks anyway
[07:01] <Mrono> hmmmm
[07:01] <admrl_> and upgrade konversation
[07:01] <Mrono> i'll do it after I recompile my kernal tomorrow
[07:01] <admrl_> your going to need to do it from source cuz there isnt an ubuntu package
[07:02] <Mrono> I have konversation .14
[07:02] <admrl_> but 0.19 is AMAZING
[07:02] <Mrono> whoops
[07:02] <Mrono> .18
[07:02] <Mrono> really
[07:02] <admrl_> compared to .18
[07:02] <admrl_> ya
[07:02] <Mrono> is it as good as mirc
[07:02] <CellarDoor> I'm still using .18
[07:02] <admrl_> i dont use mirc
[07:02] <Mrono> I script on mirc
[07:02] <CellarDoor> mIRC !!!??
[07:02] <admrl_> ya kubuntu only has a deb for .18
[07:02] <Mrono> yeah
[07:02] <CellarDoor> mIRC is teh sux0r
[07:03] <Mrono> where can i get the source for .19
[07:03] <CellarDoor> I was on xchat till I discovered konversation
[07:03] <admrl_> http://download.berlios.de/konversation/konversation-0.19.tar.bz2
[07:03] <CellarDoor> konversation won me over
[07:03] <admrl_> ya i was usinx xchat to
[07:03] <admrl_> and i used bitchx or whatever for awhile
[07:04] <admrl_> but i dont remember what side the x and the bitch are on
[07:04] <admrl_> haha
[07:04] <Dasnipa`> mirc scripting lol thats like visual basic programming
[07:04] <Dasnipa`> just about as useless
[07:04] <Dasnipa`> perl irc scripts > *
[07:05] <admrl_> konversation .18 sucks for alot of channels
[07:05] <Mrono> yes it does
[07:05] <Mrono> omg yes ut does
[07:05] <admrl_> .19 is WAY better
[07:05] <Mrono> i ususally have like 15 or spo
[07:05] <Mrono> hmm
[07:05] <Mrono> just finished dl
[07:06] <admrl_> its amazing
[07:06] <admrl_> we need a package for it
[07:06] <admrl_> but i dont know how to package debs
[07:07] <Mrono> woah
[07:07] <Mrono> now that's a problem
[07:07] <admrl_> whats the problem..?
[07:07] <Mrono> guess what just crashed
[07:07] <CellarDoor> how do I install .19 ?
[07:07] <chavo> .19 is in dapper already
[07:07] <Mrono> kicker
[07:07] <admrl_> CellarDoor you need the source
[07:07] <admrl_> then you gotta extract it
[07:08] <Dasnipa`> or the dapper repo admrl_
[07:08] <Mrono> crap
[07:08] <admrl_> Dasnipa`: will it work fine..?
[07:08] <Mrono> there we go
[07:08] <Mrono> lol
[07:08] <Dasnipa`> it most likely would... or you could wait 2 months for dapper stable to come out
[07:09] <Mrono> so what does this require
[07:09] <Mrono> or is it a clean install
[07:09] <Mrono> brb
[07:09] <Mrono> installing
[07:09] <CellarDoor> bbl guys
[07:09] <admrl_> i love .19
[07:10] <chavo> it's hott
[07:10] <admrl_> aseigo you use kubuntu..?
[07:10] <aseigo> admrl_: on some machines here, yes
[07:10] <admrl_> i didnt expect to see you in this room
[07:11] <admrl_> alot more people use ubuntu than i thought
[07:12] <Mrono> what are a few reason my wallpaper would dissapear
[07:12] <admrl_> if you xkill it i think it will disapear
[07:12] <Mrono> how do i get it back
[07:12] <admrl_> im pretty sure that happened to me once..
[07:13] <admrl_> lol i dont know i restarted
[07:13] <Mrono> restart x?
[07:13] <Mrono> ok
[07:13] <admrl_> ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:13] <aseigo> admrl_: i think kubuntu has some real promise in areas other distros don't... i've been helping a regional IT support company move from being a windows support company to a kubuntu support company over the last year, actually
[07:13] <Mrono> i'll do that after i install konversatiuon
[07:13] <aseigo> admrl_: which has been a rather interesting experience for everyone involved
[07:13] <Mrono> hmm
[07:13] <Mrono> very neat
[07:13] <admrl_> ya it seems to
[07:13] <aseigo> they still do windows related work, obviously, but almost all their new work is coming in the form of linux, and they use kubuntu for smb/sme installs
[07:14] <aseigo> that and i like kubuntu too .. riddel's a great guy, and the distro is really taking shape
[07:14] <admrl_> thats cool i tried using kubuntu in my school but the only box was a p2 and it went really really slow
[07:14] <aseigo> Mrono: nah
[07:14] <admrl_> haha
[07:14] <aseigo> Mrono: just open a konsole and run kdesktop
[07:15] <Mrono> nvm,
[07:15] <Mrono> it was just the wallpaper
[07:15] <Mrono> weird
[07:15] <admrl_> lol
[07:15] <Mrono> brb
[07:15] <Mrono> restarting x
[07:15] <aseigo> admrl_: less important than proc is mem obviously =) though we had a box at SCALE the other week with 64MB of ram running KDE on debian that was doing quite nicely
[07:15] <aseigo> admrl_: and that was a PII550
[07:15] <aseigo> admrl_: not a speed demon, obviously
[07:16] <admrl_> ya definately
[07:16] <admrl_> i had that box running debian at one point
[07:17] <admrl_> it was soo slow and i thought setting up printers in kubuntu was alot easier then i found out about hplip
[07:18] <admrl_> cups and lp confused me
[07:19] <admrl_> ive only been using linux for a year and 2 months now tho
[07:22] <Mrono> woah
[07:22] <Mrono> different
[07:22] <admrl_> like it..?
[07:22] <admrl_> it needs to be in the backports
[07:22] <tristanmike> I can't update my KDE menu using the Menu Editor, can someone lend a hand please?
[07:23] <admrl_> tristanmike what do you mean update your kde menu
[07:23] <tristanmike> like add something to it or move something around
[07:23] <Mrono> yeah
[07:24] <admrl_> whats it say when you try to do it
[07:24] <Mrono> i wish they would drop that whole icon by the name
[07:24] <Mrono> I want symbols
[07:24] <tristanmike> it appears to work, but doesn't
[07:24] <Mrono> like V and O and ~ and & and @
[07:24] <admrl_> haha
[07:24] <admrl_> i wouldnt like symbols
[07:24] <Mrono> it's hard to tell
[07:25] <tristanmike> I save the new configuration, it updates the system (though the progress bar just kinda blinks). but when I close, it's not there
[07:25] <Mrono> cuz it doesn't support & and ~
[07:25] <Mrono> it just says those are O
[07:26] <admrl_> idk what to say it works to me the first time
[07:28] <tristanmike> yeah, it used to for me too
[07:29] <Mrono> this is so much better
[07:29] <Ex-Cyber> what's a good hex-capable calculator app?
[07:30] <admrl_>  sudo apt-cache search hex calculator    ??
[07:32] <Ex-Cyber> apt-cache doesn't give recommendations
[07:32] <Mrono> grrrrr
[07:32] <Mrono> the thing i hate most about this client is that it doesn't support thr /hop command
[07:33] <admrl_> Ex-Cyber i gave you one :D
[07:33] <admrl_> but you didnt like it
[07:33] <admrl_> try google
[07:36] <Ex-Cyber> admrl_: great job missing the point entirely
[07:37] <admrl_> i did the best i could to help you
[07:43] <Ex-Cyber> admrl_: if I want Google, I know where to find it
[07:45] <Mrono> how do you make files hidden
[07:46] <Ex-Cyber> Mrono: filenames starting with a period are normally not displayed by most things
[07:46] <Mrono> yep
[07:46] <Mrono> just figured that out
[07:47] <Ex-Cyber> it's really just a convention though; there's nothing special about the files as far as the system is concerned
[07:49] <Mrono> it makes it easier on my eyes
[07:49] <Mrono> since there isn't a program files folder
[07:49] <Mrono> or a my documents
[07:53] <Ex-Cyber> Mrono: your home directory essentially is "My Documents"
[07:54] <Mrono> unfortunately so
[07:54] <Mrono> I always had the my documents
[07:54] <Mrono> then I had another folder where my other stuff went
[07:54] <Mrono> shortcuts
[07:54] <Mrono> installers
[07:54] <Mrono> etc
[08:04] <Mrono> cya guys tomorrow
[08:04] <dmdm> so eh
[08:05] <dmdm> is there anything equivalent to "my computer" in kubuntu
[08:05] <_giorgio> hi
[08:07] <dmdm> yo
[08:07] <dmdm> i wanna know if the drives on this pc are being seen by linux
[08:07] <dmdm> and if i can access em
[08:07] <stoned> i deleted my kde main menu, how can i get it back.  where is the default kde menu file located, i can load it with kmenuedit, i can't seem to find it
[08:08] <dmdm> if i do 'mount' i cant realy decipher the outcome
[08:08] <dmdm> so need to know how to like go to a location where i can view drives
[08:10] <tristanmike> Can anyone help me with Kubuntu's Menu Editor please?
[08:10] <dmdm> !xgl
[08:10] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:13] <_mindspin> ! ask
[08:14] <_mindspin> !ask
[08:19] <_mindspin> tristanmike: ask your question, otherwise you'll get no other answer than "yes"
[08:19] <tristanmike> _mindspin, oh, sorry, menu wont take my edits
[08:19] <tristanmike> edits
[08:20] <farous> !tell bubba about repos
[08:21] <_mindspin> what did you edit? what do you get? grayed ou menu entry ? nothing happens?
[08:21] <tristanmike> looks like it works, but nadda
[08:21] <farous> sorry wrong chan
[08:21] <robotgeek> dmdm: try System Settings -> Disks and FileSystems
[08:22] <dmdm> nice one thanks man
[08:23] <_mindspin> tristanmike: all information you gave yet is that you did some changes and they did't work
[08:23] <_mindspin> !work
[08:23] <ubotu> _mindspin: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:23] <tristanmike> lol
[08:23] <_mindspin> what answer would you give if yoe were an expert?
[08:23] <tristanmike> _mindspin, it's simple, I try to make any change to the kubuntu menu, make the save, everything looks fine, exit, no change, go back, looks like how I left it
[08:23] <_mindspin> try to be more precise
[08:24] <_mindspin> what dou you mean with any change
[08:24] <tristanmike> a move, create a new entry, anything, I've been at this for 2 or 3 hours now
[08:24] <_mindspin> maybe the programs you wanna edit are not installed?
[08:25] <tristanmike> please, I'm not _that_ dumb
[08:25] <_mindspin> ok
[08:25] <tristanmike> lol
[08:25] <_mindspin> how should I know?
[08:25] <tristanmike> lol, fair enough
[08:25] <CyberMad> i got this error when installing kubuntu: Loading /install/vmlinuz isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4280, drive 9F. Boot Failed
[08:25] <CyberMad> what that happen?
[08:26] <CyberMad> usually i install this kubuntu (CD) with other computer is ok
[08:26] <_mindspin> tristanmike: which kubuntu? you are logged in as user?
[08:26] <_mindspin> which kde?
[08:27] <tristanmike> 5.10, Breezy, normal install, I am the only user, and there is only one user
[08:27] <_mindspin> try updating kde to 3.4.1
[08:27] <tristanmike> I have "removed" my ~./kde folder and let it create another one, to no avail
[08:27] <_mindspin> it helped me in several ocasions like administration interface
[08:27] <tristanmike> ok, I'm not _that_ proficent yet either, lol
[08:28] <_mindspin> mom
[08:28] <tristanmike> haha
[08:28] <david> dude, I just did a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper and it just worked 'out of the box', thet's really impressive imo! :)
[08:29] <_mindspin> tristanmike: add this to your sources.list
[08:29] <_mindspin> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main
[08:29] <boz> callie   Hi i finally got a clean install!!!  all i had to do was but another computer !! ; P
[08:30] <_mindspin> you also need to do this: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[08:30] <tristanmike> hmm, I'm not really comfortable with upgrading right now...i'm still a little to fresh for something as extravagent as that
[08:30] <_mindspin> and this:sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[08:30] <boz> callie buy, lol
[08:30] <david> now that I'm on dapper to I use upgrade or dist-upgrade when updating dapper?
[08:30] <_mindspin> uncomment the old entry for kde
[08:30] <robotgeek> david: you have to dist-upgrade from time to time on dapper
[08:31] <_mindspin> so open adept
[08:31] <tristanmike> ...the old entry? what old entry, I have no kde entry in my sources.list?
[08:31] <david> ok thans robotgeek
[08:31] <_mindspin> edit your repos  by adding the above mentioned entry
[08:31] <_mindspin> you should have...
[08:32] <_mindspin> !dapper
[08:32] <dmdm> apt-get dist-upgrade would upgrade the whole ubuntu os to the latest one?
[08:32] <robotgeek> dmdm: yes, but it is quite unstable, and you should not be using it :)
[08:33] <dmdm> shit..
[08:33] <dmdm> :P
[08:33] <david> robotgeek: can I do dist-upgrade in the gui of aptitude?
[08:33] <boz> hey, if anyones looking for a wireless card belkin fsb7010 is the sh*t!  right out of the box!
[08:33] <robotgeek> david: i dunno about aptitude, sorry. it should be possible, though
[08:33] <robotgeek> boz: what chipset does it have, ralink?
[08:33] <boz> yah
[08:34] <david> robotgeek: yeah I use aptitude dist-upgrade but the gui would me nicer, thanks anyway
[08:34] <boz> but all i had to do was insert it, ubuntu asked me for the winxp driver and off we go
[08:35] <boz> (after beating my brains out with a wpc11
[08:35] <robotgeek> boz: that ain't out of the box :)
[08:35] <boz> close 'nuff, lol
[08:36] <boz> it was well worth the 32 bucks,  lol
[08:36] <dmdm> i have a belkin
[08:36] <dmdm> i cant get it to work
[08:36] <dmdm> have to use wired lan :[
[08:36] <tristanmike> _mindspin, heh, actually, it seems that it's a permissions problem
[08:37] <dmdm> how do i see what chipset it is, cant remember command, something liek ifconfig or iwconfig or something
[08:37] <robotgeek> dmdm: lspci
[08:37] <tristanmike> _mindspin, I was naughty and ran gedit way earlier today using sudo instead of kdesu, i wasn't thinking until now
[08:37] <dmdm> broadcom 4306
[08:37] <robotgeek> !ndiswrapper
[08:37] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:37] <robotgeek> dmdm: ^^
[08:38] <dmdm> ah cool
[08:38] <dmdm> is it included in kubuntu?
[08:38] <robotgeek> dmdm: there's also a nice link at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[08:38] <boz> (thats why i love this channel ; ) )
[08:38] <_mindspin> tristanmike: see thats why I asked "you are logged in as user?"
[08:40] <tristanmike> _mindspin, I'm logged in as user as per norm, but i was editing a file earlier, now that i recall, and i remember using sudo, not thinking, and didn't encounter a problem until the menu edit thing, that's why it seemed so mysterious
[08:41] <_mindspin> i understood
[08:41] <tristanmike> I just like to say it so I understand better
[08:41] <_mindspin> did you enable root log in on your system
[08:41] <tristanmike> um, no
[08:42] <tristanmike> pretty sure i didn't
[08:42] <_mindspin> I never had this although heard about
[08:42] <_mindspin> I osfte fire up an sudo command on the terminal
[08:42] <_mindspin> often
[08:43] <_mindspin> but never had any issues...
[08:43] <tristanmike> yeah, I get all the stupid ones
[08:43] <david> as long as you don't start a graphical application it shouldn't be a problem
[08:43] <_mindspin> consider a kde update, its real better integrated and more stable
[08:43] <_mindspin> ah
[08:44] <_mindspin> I do it always on konsule, but no sometimes I star kynaptic
[08:44] <_mindspin> but it works fine
[08:44] <tristanmike> and since I was using gedit, poof there go my settings
[08:44] <_mindspin> take vi
[08:44] <david> _mindspin: it's saver to use kdesu to start graphical apps
[08:44] <_mindspin> I know menwhile
[08:45] <_mindspin> I just stated thad I myself never seen those problems
[08:45] <david> ok :)
[08:46] <_mindspin> It was enouh work to get su out of my head to replace it with sudo
[08:46] <_mindspin> so I have to lear to use kdesudo
[08:46] <boz> i know i'll get my head bashed , but i install the automatix script and the new (in the last two weeks) is awsome
[08:46] <_mindspin> but I'm doing half my work on konsole
[08:46] <Mrono> !alien
[08:46] <ubotu> alien is, like, totally, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[08:47] <boz> !automatix
[08:47] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[08:50] <david> wow, the new kdm is nice
[08:53] <dmdm> is there a way to switch to gnome in kubuntu?
[08:53] <gnumdk> dmdm: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <dmdm> does that require any prior knowledge or linux?
[08:55] <dmdm> or is it completly automated
[08:55] <Mrono> crap
[08:55] <Mrono> how do I install .jar
[08:56] <Mrono> I just spent 20 min installing java
[08:56] <Mrono> had to convert it to .deb
[08:56] <Mrono> !jar
[08:56] <ubotu> Mrono: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:56] <Mrono> btw
[08:57] <Mrono> just how do i upgrade my kde
[08:57] <tristanmike> thanx for the help _mindspin, going to bed now, g'night
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> dmdm: to make ubuntu into Kubuntu install Kubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can do it with apt- or adept
[08:59] <dmdm> omg
[08:59] <dmdm> needs about a hundred dependencies :P
[09:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.l yep
[09:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's what KDE is :)
[09:01] <robotgeek> so is gnome
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure.
[09:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> it wasnt a critism :/
[09:01] <robotgeek> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[09:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:03] <dmdm> everything ive experianced about linux so far is basically one long string of dependancy packages
[09:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> rofl.
[09:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> that's a good thing :)
[09:04] <dmdm> what do i type to make apt get all the dependancies?
[09:04] <dmdm> must be a switch ?
[09:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> it does it itslef
[09:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> *itslf
[09:05] <robotgeek> itself, even
[09:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> *itself
[09:05] <dmdm> Depends: zenity but it is not going to be installed
[09:05] <dmdm> sais that with em all
[09:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> dmdm: are you installing ubuntu or Kubuntu desktop?
[09:05] <dmdm> ubuntu-desktop
[09:05] <_hupp3l> if i were to compile something do I just use sudo make?
[09:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh. you have to change your sources list (i expect)
[09:05] <robotgeek> !compile
[09:05] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[09:05] <dmdm> im using kde with kubuntu atm
[09:06] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: take a look at that, and you should never have to compile as root
[09:06] <_hupp3l> ah thanx
[09:09] <dmdm> how do i get to /var/cache/apt
[09:09] <dmdm> i cant see it in the file system
[09:11] <dmdm> are there any linux-adopt-a-noob channels anywhere?
[09:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[09:11] <farous> dmdm: you just type it in your konq
[09:11] <farous> address bar
[09:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> just because you ask don't expect an instant reply
[09:11] <dmdm> i dont expect
[09:11] <dmdm> u lot are very helpfull
[09:11] <_hupp3l> does anyone here use a broadcom wireless land chipseT?
[09:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> dmdm: :)
[09:12] <dmdm> im just one impatient mofo
[09:12] <farous> _hupp3l: land wireless !
[09:12] <farous> i have a broadcom here
[09:12] <_hupp3l> did you set it up in linux?
[09:12] <boz> brOADCOM <<<
[09:12] <farous> _hupp3l: ndiswrapper
[09:13] <_hupp3l> urrggg :(
[09:13] <_hupp3l> im having trouble using fwcutter
[09:13] <dmdm> i dont have permission to delete stuff :|
[09:13] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[09:13] <dmdm> how do i let konq know im root
[09:13] <farous> dmdm: type sudo infront of your command
[09:14] <dmdm> im using konqueror
[09:14] <dmdm> ok
[09:14] <_hupp3l> robotgeek: i would like to use the linux drivers though
[09:14] <dmdm> how do i get to /var/cache/apt through the konsole
[09:14] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: look at the dapper section below
[09:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:14] <boz> use the xp driver, lol, believe me
[09:15] <_hupp3l> ahh ok thank you
[09:15] <_hupp3l> why boz
[09:15] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: are you on dapper?
[09:15] <_hupp3l> yes i am
[09:15] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: ah nice, the driver works great!
[09:15] <_hupp3l> yeah i had it running a while ago
[09:16] <_hupp3l> then i re did my pc and now i struggle with th fwcutter part
[09:16] <_hupp3l> and yeah it works great
[09:16] <_hupp3l> it even works with kismet
[09:16] <dmdm> !del
[09:16] <ubotu> dmdm: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:16] <dmdm> !delete command
[09:16] <ubotu> dmdm: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:17] <boz> _huppa31: plug your broadcom card in and go to system>administration.windows wireless drivers
[09:18] <dumkopf> Is there a way to get K's device handling services to mount my USB hard drive as /media/usbhd1 instead of /media/sda1 ?
[09:19] <Kaiser_Away> not without some serious work
[09:19] <dumkopf> i wrote a udev rule to handle the device naming
[09:19] <dumkopf> bleh.
[09:19] <boz> _huppa3l: i had a linksys wpc11 and i gave it to the neighbor and bought a belkin card,  after banging my head against the "Fridge"
[09:20] <robotgeek> boz: the broadcom device now has "native" linux drivers
[09:20] <robotgeek> boz: so does your card :)
[09:20] <dumkopf> see, all my music is on this external drive, since I use primarily a laptop.  I need the device to be consistently mounted in the same place so it doesn't bork with amarok's collection db
[09:21] <boz> lol, i know i'm just so happy after fighting the linksys card i could pee myself! ; )
[09:22] <[Vampis] > cant you just remount it after it has been found by the system ?
[09:22] <_hupp3l> robotgeek: do they have fwcutter in a repositry?
[09:22] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: yes, fwcutter will be in the download of the driver. Read wiki :)
[09:22] <dmdm> does the broadcom 4306 have native linux drivers now?
[09:22] <_hupp3l> nah but the wiki says use svn
[09:23] <dumkopf> [Vampis] : well, the point is that remounting it adds an additional step the the process :)  i could by all means just use pmount for it and it shows up automatically under /media
[09:23] <_hupp3l> and i dont have svn installed
[09:23] <_hupp3l> dmdm yes
[09:23] <dmdm> cool
[09:23] <dmdm> so my card should be installed?
[09:23] <[Vampis] > dumkopf: if you  make your on bash-script you would just have to make one step :)
[09:23] <dmdm> i dont need to use ndiswrapper?
[09:23] <_hupp3l> no you have to extract firmware
[09:23] <_hupp3l> not anymore
[09:23] <_hupp3l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[09:24] <dmdm> what can i do to make this thing work?
[09:24] <_hupp3l> read the last section
[09:24] <dmdm> thankyou
[09:24] <robotgeek> dmdm: if you are breezy, read the everything but the last section
[09:24] <dmdm> breezy, ive heard this expression, i presume thats the name for the latest release?
[09:24] <_hupp3l> o yeah sorry forgot to mention
[09:25] <_hupp3l> no dapper is
[09:25] <dmdm> breezy is what?
[09:25] <[Vampis] > well, dapper isnt finished yet so
[09:25] <robotgeek> dmdm: the current version is breezy, and the next release is dapper
[09:25] <boz> robotgeek :  where were ya when i needed ya? lol
[09:25] <[Vampis] > dmdm: Breezy Badger. Ubuntu 5.10
[09:25] <[Vampis] > the latest STABLE version of ubuntu
[09:25] <dmdm> ah so its the current stable release
[09:25] <[Vampis] > exactly
[09:25] <robotgeek> boz: hmm, you did not say my name :)
[09:26] <[Vampis] > Dapper will be released as stable in april
[09:26] <boz> lol
[09:26] <dmdm> [08:25]  <_hupp3l> o yeah sorry forgot to mention < pls go on :>
[09:26] <[Vampis] > Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.04
[09:27] <_mindspin> !dapper
[09:27] <boz> lol hope they can get my rio working...
[09:27] <_hupp3l> dmdm do you have dapper?
[09:27] <dumkopf> my rio isn't mass storage :(
[09:27] <dmdm> yeer
[09:27] <dmdm> flight 4
[09:27] <_hupp3l> well then get the fwcutter program
[09:28] <dmdm> apt-get install fwcutter ?
[09:28] <_hupp3l> uhm no you gotta get it from the berlios site
[09:28] <boz> dumkopf: amen brother, thats the only thing keeping from wiping windoze
[09:28] <_hupp3l> also you have to get the .sys driver from here http://sidulus.textdrive.com/bcmwl5sys.zip
[09:29] <_hupp3l> http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4547
[09:29] <_hupp3l> fwcutter from here
[09:29] <dumkopf> boz:  someone will write a driver for amarok, i betcha
[09:29] <dumkopf> boz:  the media device handling in 1.4 so far is really spiffy
[09:29] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: do you know if all the firmwares are same, like airport extreme/something else
[09:30] <_hupp3l> uhm no they arnt
[09:30] <_hupp3l> look in the fwcutter readme for a list of drivers
[09:31] <robotgeek> oh well, my airport extreme firmware works great :)
[09:31] <boz> dumkopf :seriously thats the only depressing thing about changing over so far. callie really helped me figure outit wasn't me : ) or i'da been lost.  this channel is so great
[09:31] <_hupp3l> robotgeek what version of fwcutter did you use?
[09:32] <_hupp3l> did you by any chance use the newest one
[09:32] <_hupp3l> ?
[09:32] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: hmm, not sure. i got it from svn a couple of weeks back.
[09:33] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: 2006-02-12 is the exact date
[09:33] <_hupp3l> how did you get svn to work in ubuntu?
[09:33] <dumkopf> boz:  well, i have a Rio Chiba.  the non-mass-storageness of it frustrates the hell out of me, but even though i've got an ipod now i'll put some energy into seeing just how much work it takes to write an amarok plugin for it
[09:33] <_hupp3l> o then you didnt get the newest ones
[09:33] <[Vampis] > exit
[09:33] <_hupp3l> and did you compile it as root?
[09:34] <dumkopf> boz:  if it turns out to be doable, i'll do it
[09:34] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: what do you mean, get svn to work?
[09:34] <boz> <<<nitrus : (
[09:35] <_hupp3l> well svn isnt working in ubuntu for me right now
[09:35] <boz> dumkopf: and it does'nt help that rio is belly up
[09:36] <dumkopf> boz:  one of the drawbacks is probably going to be that amarok's media device management relies wholly on k's media device framework.  if k can't make sense of it, there's little hope for amarok
[09:36] <_hupp3l> dammit i am doing something wrong
[09:36] <dumkopf> boz:  RIP Rio, killed by Apple in the conservatory with an Ipod
[09:36] <boz> yup, i can get everything to work from command line, though, thats what makes it soooo frustrating
[09:37] <_hupp3l> did you just compile it and then typed fwcutter -w etc?
[09:37] <dumkopf> boz:  got an email address?  if I come up with anything I'll shoot you an email
[09:37] <boz> (with rioutil)
[09:38] <dumkopf> boz:  it's too late to start on anything tonight, but I'll bang my head against it tomorrow after my hawt date
[09:38] <boz> bozinsek@budweiser.com.  please do, lol
[09:38] <_hupp3l> O nevermind
[09:38] <_hupp3l> i got it
[09:40] <boz> dumkoph: it would save me driving to the office to reload the mp3 player, lol
[09:44] <robotgeek> _hupp3l: sorry, my wireless connection crapped out
[09:46] <_hupp3l> haha dont worry i almost got it
[09:46] <_hupp3l> thx though
[09:47] <_hupp3l> hello
[09:47] <_hupp3l> anyone here?
[09:47] <_hupp3l> lo lo
[09:47] <_hupp3l> lo lo
[09:51] <dmdm> wine can open .exe files so i can extract the contents right?
[09:52] <jasper> i'm having trouble with my wireless nic....it shows up fine but i can't enable it....any suggestions
[09:52] <robotgeek> jasper, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:53] <jasper> been there done that.....i'm not getting anywhere
[09:53] <jasper> i've been at this for 24 hours now lol
[09:55] <robotgeek> jasper: what chipset, card etc?
[09:55] <jasper> broadcom 4318
[09:55] <llukax> hey does anyone know if wine works on powerpc yet?
[09:56] <robotgeek> llukax: hmm, might work, too slow, i guess
[09:56] <jasper> shows up as eth0, shows a signal, but won't enable
[09:56] <robotgeek> jasper: are you using ndiswrapper?
[09:56] <llukax> im trying to install libfst
[09:56] <jasper> yes
[09:56] <llukax> to use windows vst plugins, linux audio
[09:56] <robotgeek> llukax: no clue, sorry
[09:56] <jasper> it autodetected it, but didn't work, so config'd ndis
[09:57] <llukax> k thanks anyways tho! :)
[09:57] <robotgeek> llukax: what about bochs or something like that
[09:57] <llukax> libfst works with wine :/ so i guess i have no choice
[09:57] <llukax> problem is i cant even find libfst for ppc
[10:07] <dmdm> ok
[10:07] <dmdm> i opened a self extracting .exe file with wine
[10:07] <dmdm> where would the files go to?
[10:08] <llukax> im trying to compile , but im having a problem, i get this error i get this error configure: error: Library requirements (jack >= 0.91.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them
[10:08] <llukax> but my version of jack is updated
[10:09] <robotgeek> llukax: you need the -dev libraries
[10:09] <cyblivious> hey guys, what MMORPG for linux can you suggest? Kinda tired of these linux games, penguins and all.
[10:09] <llukax> for jack?
[10:10] <dmdm> i opened a self extracting .exe file with wine
[10:10] <dmdm> where would the files go to?
[10:10] <cyblivious> ~/.kde/wine/drive_c?
[10:11] <llukax> thanx that got me over that part
[10:11] <llukax> now it wants gtk+2.0
[10:11] <llukax> :P
[10:11] <llukax> one sec
[10:12] <llukax> what do i install in synaptic?
[10:13] <llukax> koz there are like 10 of them
[10:24] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell llukax about compile
[10:25] <robotgeek> lib-gtk2.0-dev or something simliar :)
[10:25] <robotgeek> llukax: libgtk2.0-dev
[10:31] <dmdm> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[10:31] <dmdm> for conffile in /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/*.conf; do
[10:31] <dmdm> sudo cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' > $conffile
[10:31] <dmdm> done
[10:32] <dmdm> when i do that i get 5 permission denied lines
[10:33] <robotgeek> dmdm: cause you are trying to write to $conffile, but you dont have permission
[10:34] <robotgeek> cat $conffile | sed -e 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/' | sudo tee $conffile
[10:34] <samoura> HELLO how can i have linux and window xp i have tryid reboot the computer and than delete and than bios advanced and than bios secounse but i cant change it to boot from the cd help please <S
[10:35] <dmdm> what do i do instead
[10:36] <samoura> help please i want to uninstall linux and than install window xp and than reinstall window xp how do i uninstall linux }
[10:36] <samoura> ?
[10:36] <dmdm> cheers robotgeek
[10:36] <samoura> what}
[10:36] <robotgeek> dmdm: :)
[10:36] <samoura> ?
[10:37] <samoura> robootgeek help me please
[10:37] <robotgeek> samoura: i'm reading, one sec
[10:37] <robotgeek> samoura: why can't you change it to boot from cd?
[10:38] <samoura> i don't know it wont let me
[10:39] <samoura> how do i uninstall this linux help please
[10:40] <robotgeek> samoura: moment
[10:43] <robotgeek> samoura: it is very difficult/impossible if you can't boot from cd
[10:45] <samoura> i reboot the computer and than i press delete and than password and i go in advanced bios featuers than i can't do boot from cd the up and down keys doesn't work nothing keys working just the esc
[10:46] <samoura> maybe reinstall kubuntu linux ?:S
[10:48] <samoura> robotgeek Uninstall the  bootloader (generally grub) from the Master Boot Record (MBR). To do so, boot under DOS and run the fdisk /mbr command. can i do this}
[10:48] <samoura> ?
[10:49] <muzzle> I have to install some SVC program. Which one should I use?
[10:50] <muzzle> and how do I set it up?
[10:50] <muzzle> We have the server. Just need to set a client up
[10:52] <llukax> hey does anyone know how to install wine?
[10:52] <muzzle> llukax: apt-get it
[10:53] <llukax> im on a ppc
[10:53] <llukax> i cant apt it
[10:53] <bimberi> llukax: no wine for ppc :|
[10:54] <llukax> :( crap
[10:57] <dmdm> hmm
[10:57] <dmdm> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[10:58] <dmdm> ive followed this guide to the t but the lights dont come on and network reports disabled wireless network device. can anyone help me?
[10:59] <muzzle> I hate there isn't any CVS guides
[11:00] <samoura> hello i found this how to remove this ubuntu but i don't under stand it can any one help to under stand this
[11:00] <samoura> 1. Boot to MS-DOS, and then type the following:
[11:00] <samoura>  fdisk /mbr
[11:00] <samoura>  2. Restart your computer.
[11:00] <samoura>  3. Delete the linux partiton using fdisk, recreate it, and format it in windows.
[11:00] <samoura> 
[11:00] <samoura>  and you're done.
[11:00] <dmdm> u dont understand?
[11:00] <dmdm> what part
[11:00] <Necron> i just installed kubuntu and just did the initial restart (after booting from cd) .. now it hangs at "Ok, booting the kernel. Loading, please wait ..." Any idea what i can do?
[11:00] <dmdm> maybe eh, wait?: )
[11:01] <samoura> i don't under stand how to do 1. Boot to MS-DOS}
[11:01] <samoura> ?
[11:02] <samoura> does that mean terminal program and teyp 1. Boot to MS-DOS?
[11:03] <dmdm> id imagine it means putting ms dos on a boot floppy and booting that
[11:03] <dmdm> but im a noob so i dunno
[11:03] <dmdm> i wasent aware linux had anything to do with dos
[11:03] <samoura> does that mean terminal program and teyp 1. Boot to MS-DOS?
[11:04] <samoura> how do i put it there}
[11:04] <samoura> ? i just want to get read of this linux and get back to window xp
[11:05] <dmdm> ah
[11:05] <dmdm> well
[11:05] <dmdm> go to www.bootdisk.com
[11:05] <dmdm> download the win98se bootdisk
[11:05] <dmdm> then open up a terminal and type sudo apt-get install wine
[11:06] <samoura> i but i want xp :S
[11:06] <Ilokaasu> samoura:  what are u trying to do ?
[11:06] <dmdm> run the downloaded bootdisk through wine and insert a floppy to write, once its done leave the floppy in the drive and reboot
[11:06] <samoura> unninstall linux and than install window xp
[11:06] <dmdm> then format it
[11:06] <Ilokaasu> well u can just stuck winxp in your cdrom and install it ?
[11:07] <dmdm> lol
[11:07] <dmdm> true!
[11:07] <samoura> i can't
[11:07] <Ilokaasu> wheres the problem :P ?
[11:07] <samoura> it won't let me :S
[11:07] <dmdm> what happens?
[11:07] <Ilokaasu> what does it say ?
[11:07] <samoura> i have tryd to boot from the cd but it doesn't work
[11:08] <Ilokaasu> does it start the installer ?
[11:08] <Ilokaasu> do u have boot on cdrom enabled in bios ?
[11:08] <dmdm> is your cd drive in the bootlist in the bios
[11:08] <dmdm> before your harddrive
[11:09] <samoura> yess
[11:10] <dmdm> its the rounds isent it
[11:10] <samoura> roundS?
[11:11] <samoura> dmdm where can i install win xp from a web?
[11:11] <dmdm> did it work
[11:11] <dmdm> you cant
[11:11] <dmdm> eh
[11:11] <dmdm> o_O
[11:11] <dmdm> dude
[11:11] <dmdm> either boot the cd or its damaged
[11:11] <Ilokaasu> samoura: i can give u simple orders how u get your windows back if u just listen and answer
[11:11] <dmdm> so download or buy another one
[11:12] <samoura> http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm from there ? can i not install it
[11:12] <dmdm> no
[11:12] <dmdm> i was just pointing you toward a means to format your disk
[11:12] <samoura> okei
[11:13] <samoura> :P
[11:13] <samoura> thanks
[11:13] <dmdm> but if u boot the winxp install cd you cna partition/format with that
[11:13] <samoura> nice
[11:13] <samoura> okei can you help me
[11:13] <samoura> }
[11:13] <samoura> to do this
[11:13] <dmdm> so what i was telling you was esentialy worthless
[11:13] <dmdm> sorry
[11:13] <dmdm> :)
[11:13] <tyler> mmm, dapper is running so well now.
[11:14] <tyler> so many improvements in the last week.
[11:14] <Ilokaasu> if the cd wont autostart u must check your bios bootlist samoura
[11:16] <dmdm> been fiddling with linux all night
[11:17] <dmdm> havent actually completed anything ive tried to do, but its been a good learning experiance as always
[11:17] <dmdm> maybe one day ill install a driver or something hehg :C
[11:21] <_samoura> !nvidia
[11:21] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:21] <_samoura> !help
[11:24] <fedorafan> is anyone here?
[11:26] <Ilokaasu> ye
[11:27] <kubby510> hi
[11:30] <dmdm> installed gnome desktop enviroment and some of it had error status 127?? whats this mean
[11:34] <pointy> I need a wireless netcard for a desktop PC, which card would you guys recommend? I know that linux wireless support isn't exactly great, but are there any cards that have good open source drivers?
[11:35] <dmdm> how do i switch desktop enviroment
[11:39] <dmdm> hm
[11:40] <dmdm> ive got a ubuntu 5.10 cd here, was wondering if its possible to install that and upgrade it to the latest flight using apt-get by any chance?
[11:42] <kubby510> i hate ubuntu
[11:42] <kubby510> this thing does not work at all :(
[11:43] <kubby510> its locked at "Checking battery state" now, when i am trying to boot up my computer
[11:44] <Ilokaasu> kubby510:
[11:44] <Ilokaasu> i had same problem yesterday
[11:44] <kubby510> what did u do?
[11:44] <Ilokaasu> u have to reconfigure your xorg.conf
[11:44] <kubby510> ok
[11:44] <kubby510> i need to use recovery mode i think
[11:44] <Ilokaasu> i just now dont remember the command..it was something like dpkg  - -
[11:45] <kubby510> i read something about that
[11:45] <kubby510> its a little config application right?
[11:45] <bimberi> !xorg
[11:45] <ubotu> xorg is, like, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:45] <Ilokaasu> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:45] <Ilokaasu> damn u were faster :P
[11:46] <dmdm> ive got a ubuntu 5.10 cd here, was wondering if its possible to install that and upgrade it to the latest flight using apt-get by any chance?
[11:46] <kubby510> lol
[11:46] <bimberi> Ilokaasu: only cause i used the bot :)
[11:46] <kubby510> thanks people
[11:46] <Ilokaasu> yeah, i dont know the bot commands :P
[11:46] <kubby510> im gonna try this right now
[11:46] <kubby510> :)
[11:47] <bimberi> dmdm: yes you can.  Although the upgrade download would probably be nearly as big as a flight4 download
[11:47] <bimberi> !flight4
[11:47] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[11:47] <dmdm> ok
[11:47] <JUDGE> hello
[11:47] <dmdm> is there anyway to make my current install clean?
[11:48] <dmdm> like as if it was new
[11:48] <dmdm> no updatse/packages etc
[11:48] <dmdm> cos ive fucked it up and used lots of packages from wierd repsoitories
[11:49] <kubby510> its asking me to choose my x server driver
[11:49] <kubby510> i have a nvidia geforce
[11:50] <kubby510> theres one option that says nv
[11:50] <kubby510> is that it?
[11:50] <bimberi> kubby510: yes, unless you can see 'nvidia'
[11:50] <bimberi> kubby510: btw, if this doesn't work, retry and choose 'vesa' at this point
[11:51] <JUDGE> hi all.. running new install kubuntu. I was wondering of there is a way to make internet browsing faster. I'm really new with linux so not sure how to configure my network to work better.
[11:58] <kubby510> sweet i think that worked :)
[11:58] <kubby510> and that program is the same one that i was afraid i was gonna have to use to configure my video card
[11:58] <kubby510> so that should be all working now :)
[11:59] <kubby510> chat rooms rule!
[11:59] <kubby510> lol
[11:59] <kubby510> now maybe someone can help me figure out why i cant get onto the internet... :(
[12:01] <Ilokaasu> check your network connections
[12:01] <kubby510> eh
[12:01] <kubby510> i dont think i want to use ubuntu
[12:01] <Ilokaasu> whys that
[12:01] <kubby510> if its this hard to get running i can only imagine what its gonna be like to maintain...
[12:02] <mae> how can i specify a literal newline with ehco
[12:02] <mae> echo *
[12:02] <Ilokaasu> kubby510:  i had like 4 problems in the beginning (3weeks ago)...then i solved them and no problems after tat :P
[12:02] <Ilokaasu> that
[12:02] <kubby510> the battery problem is still happening
[12:02] <Ilokaasu> tbh its harder to maintain windows that this :P
[12:03] <kubby510> i chose the correct driver for my video card
[12:03] <Ilokaasu> try to add "vesa" where u chose videocard
[12:03] <kubby510> and input the monitor
[12:03] <kubby510> add?
[12:03] <Ilokaasu> welll retry that setup program
[12:03] <kubby510> like just tyupe that in?
[12:03] <Ilokaasu> then choose vesa insted of your videocard
[12:04] <kubby510> what is vesa?
[12:04] <Ilokaasu> its some "normal" driver or something, i dont know so well
[12:04] <kubby510> hm
[12:04] <kubby510> well i want to get the most ouot of my hardware
[12:05] <bimberi> !nvidia
[12:05] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:05] <kubby510> i guess i could at least see how it acts if i get it running
[12:05] <kubby510> lol
[12:05] <Ilokaasu> you can add your deriver later
[12:05] <Ilokaasu> driver
[12:05] <kubby510> yea
[12:05] <kubby510> k im taking another shot at it
[12:05] <bimberi> kubby510: ^^^ those instructions are for installing the nvidia drivers
[12:05] <bimberi> kubby510: (the ubotu post above)
[12:06] <kubby510> how do i specify the PCI bus location?
[12:06] <kubby510> oh cool thanks
[12:06] <kubby510> i mean
[12:06] <kubby510> how do i find out what the pci bus location for my vid card is?
[12:06] <kubby510> do i have to reboot or can i just let it guess?
[12:07] <luite_> try lspci
[12:07] <Ilokaasu> in console then, not in the setup :P
[12:08] <luite_> uhm, yes, that would probably work better ;)
[12:08] <bimberi> kubby510: iirc it's a good guesser :)
[12:08] <bimberi> kubby510: or you might be able to ctrl-alt-f2 to get to another virtual console to type lspci
[12:09] <bimberi> kubby510: ctrl-alt-f1 to get back :)
[12:15] <_b> !wmv
[12:15] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:17] <kubby510> nope its still getting stuck at "checking battery state"
[12:27] <callie> boz?
[12:27] <callie> you there
[12:27] <cmvo> Hi! Anybody besides me having random system lockups on dapper flight 3 and 4 (bug #32055, P4, i875, agp radeon)?
[12:31] <kubby510> nope its still getting stuck at "checking battery state"
[12:31] <kubby510> does anyone know what its doing when its running that?
[12:31] <kubby510> are there any settings i can mess with?
[12:31] <kubby510> or...
[12:32] <kubby510> does anyone know where i can find out some options to put in when i install ubuntu so that i can configure these things ahead of time?
[12:58] <callie> i just realised that i've had my ram clock speed set wrong all along
[12:59] <callie> doh
[01:12] <ita> hi all
[01:15] <sylvian00> How do I solve this? "Qt installation not detected. Set $QTDIR correctly and rerun."
[01:15] <Hobbsee> install kde-devel
[01:16] <Hobbsee> !info kde-devel
[01:16] <ubotu> kde-devel: (the K Desktop Environment development files and modules), section universe/kde, is extra. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[01:24] <Infecto> hellp
[01:24] <Infecto> can some on tell me
[01:24] <Infecto> iv got inafff :(
[01:24] <Infecto> xinerama + ati 9600 mobility
[01:24] <Infecto> + kde
[01:24] <Infecto> dont wont to work
[01:25] <Infecto> the problem is i cant set main window at ful size
[01:25] <Infecto> i see only a part of screen
[01:25] <Infecto> but when i run only xinit it works ok
[01:25] <Infecto> what can be the problem ?
[01:26] <SkrotFFS> Hi. Anyone using XGL with Compiz and KDE?
[01:31] <Infecto> just tel me how to enable in kcontrol->peripherals->Display
[01:47] <SkrotFFS> hm. Just dist-upgraded with dapper and now all fonts are weird, and widgets seem to take more space than usual. Any clue what that might be all about?
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: ping
[01:48] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: ?
[01:48] <Tonio_> ok
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: thought you might like the feedback from SkrotFFS
[01:49] <Tonio_> SkrotFFS: did you changed the default font size ?
[01:49] <SkrotFFS> nope. I did now though, since 8 is more suiting than 5 with this change
[01:49] <SkrotFFS> DPI is the same by the way
[01:49] <Tonio_> SkrotFFS: dpi should actually be set to 96
[01:50] <Tonio_> and fonts are now 9 by default
[01:50] <SkrotFFS> Always? Isn't that calculated from the resolution?
[01:50] <Tonio_> SkrotFFS: nope
[01:50] <Tonio_> screen dpi is, but not xft.dpi
[01:50] <SkrotFFS> I see. My DPI is 125x126 according to xinfocenter
[01:50] <SkrotFFS> err, kinfocenter*
[01:50] <Tonio_> this is because we had lots of issues on that point, and most distros including ubuntu is fixing the xft.dpi for that reason
[01:50] <Tonio_> let me compare
[01:50] <SkrotFFS> On a 1280x800 display
[01:51] <Tonio_> I have the same
[01:51] <SkrotFFS> 125x126?
[01:51] <SkrotFFS> Or 1280x800?
[01:51] <Tonio_> 1280
[01:51] <SkrotFFS> okay
[01:52] <SkrotFFS> Things look much better with font size 8 by the way
[01:52] <Tonio_> SkrotFFS: the problem is not dpi but xft.dpi
[01:52] <Tonio_> SkrotFFS: default is now 9
[01:52] <SkrotFFS> okay :)
[01:52] <Tonio_> xft.dpi + fonts sets to 9 should give exactly the same size on all computers
[01:53] <Tonio_> is you set that to 5, you changed the kubuntu default, that's the reason you got the problem ;) and that's why that was my first question in fact
[01:54] <SkrotFFS> I see. I've used 5 since I started using dapper, and I haven't done a dist-upgrade for about two-three weeks now before today when it suddenly changed the look :)
[01:54] <SkrotFFS> So I guess the changes was made in that area of time?
[01:55] <Tonio_> it has been changed yesterday :)
[01:55] <SkrotFFS> ah :)
[01:55] <Tonio_> don't forget that dapper is in developpment so things can be completly changed from one day to another
[01:55] <SkrotFFS> I know :)
[01:55] <Tonio_> that's why the best thing to do is to keep your profile unset
[01:55] <Tonio_> keep all you can to it's default value
[01:57] <Infecto> hmm i found kde-guidance but it is no redy to use
[01:57] <Infecto> can some one help me with runing this ?
[01:58] <SkrotFFS> Tonio_: I see. What's your part in kunutu if you don't mind me asking? :)
[01:59] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: he's modifying the kubuntu-default-settings package, at the moment
[01:59] <Infecto> reset
[02:00] <Tonio_> SkrotFFS: I'm doing a few things, packaging, and diverse stuff, but yes, my actuall priority is the desktop configuration
[02:00] <SkrotFFS> I see :)
[02:01] <Tonio_> for example the new kdm theme, all aplications default config etc......
[02:01] <Tonio_> but only kde stuff, I don't work at all on the ubuntu side :)
[02:01] <SkrotFFS> ah, that's an importnt piece of work :)
[02:01] <SkrotFFS> important*
[02:02] <SkrotFFS> As I figure you want kubuntu to look it's best when it ships
[02:02] <Tonio_> I would like kubuntu to require about no config out of the box
[02:02] <Tonio_> and that was one of breezy's main problems in my view
[02:03] <SkrotFFS> Indeed. Any way I can help?
[02:03] <Tonio_> but there is still so much to do
[02:03] <Tonio_> SkrotFFS: suggest me things :)
[02:03] <Tonio_> if there are things that should be configured by default and that are not set actually, that can be one
[02:03] <Tonio_> s/one/done
[02:04] <SkrotFFS> Okay, I would probably know next time I install from scratch, since I usually spend 1-2 hours tweaking :)
[02:04] <Tonio_> and if you want to contribute by yourself, of of course can
[02:04] <SkrotFFS> But I must admit, changing from debian (with KDE buildt from source) to kubutnu was a mind blower
[02:04] <Tonio_> SkrotFFS: that's the problem ;)
[02:04] <Tonio_> I force myself to work with  default profile to search for config lacks
[02:05] <SkrotFFS> new profile = new user with a clean ~/.kde?
[02:06] <Hobbsee> yeah
[02:06] <Al-Daja> does kubuntu have root?
[02:06] <SkrotFFS> yes
[02:06] <jpatrick> Al-Daja: not by default
[02:07] <SkrotFFS> But it does have it, if you set a root password
[02:07] <Hobbsee> !root
[02:07] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:08] <Al-Daja> i'm go to adept i tell's only the root can install or unistall things
[02:17] <samoura> hello i was trying to install dapper and allweys stop at 60% on server-xorg why
[02:17] <samoura> ?
[02:18] <samoura> !nvidia
[02:18] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:19] <Tonio_> Al-Daja: do not simply launch "adept"
[02:20] <Tonio_> the K menu entry uses kdesu adept
[02:20] <Tonio_> that's the reason you are prompted to be logged as root
[02:20] <Al-Daja> Tonio_: already done
[02:20] <Al-Daja> plz let me dance
[02:20] <Al-Daja> lol
[02:21] <Tonio_> and you still get that error message ?
[02:21] <Al-Daja> nop
[02:21] <Al-Daja> sudo adept
[02:21] <Al-Daja> changed my root pass
[02:22] <samoura> hello i was trying to install dapper and allweys stop at 60% on server-xorg why?
[02:23] <samoura> hello i was trying to install dapper and allweys stop at 60% on xserver-xorg why?
[02:25] <ziza> hi, what's the easiest way to change the pointing location of a symbolic link? intuitively i tried to do that in the properties dialog, but apparently Konqueror doesn't want to be user friendly because it doesn't let me edit the pointing location...
[02:26] <samoura> !nvidia
[02:26] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:29] <_prince> hhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:56] <admrl> this is the quietest ive ever seen his channel
[02:56] <ziza> then please be so kind an answer my question above :)
[02:57] <xwolf-> lol
[02:57] <admrl> what did you ask
[02:57] <ziza> what's the easiest way to change the pointing location of a symbolic link? intuitively i tried to do that in the properties dialog, but apparently Konqueror doesn't want to be user friendly because it doesn't let me edit the pointing location...
[02:58] <admrl> ziza like a .desktop
[02:58] <admrl> open it in kate
[02:58] <admrl> :) i dont know the correct syntax like if your wanting to run sh shell.sh in your ~/shellscripts
[02:59] <ziza> i tried that, but it opens the file the link points to :(
[02:59] <admrl> bad syntax maybe
[02:59] <ziza> i'll try with the shell then
[03:00] <admrl> maybe change it to sh ~/shellscripts/script.sh
[03:00] <admrl> something like that
[03:00] <admrl> but that will only work when running as the user thats home its in
[03:00] <ziza> are we talking about the same thing?
[03:00] <admrl> i dont know
[03:00] <admrl> lol
[03:01] <ziza> the problem is, i have some symbolic links to qt applications in /usr/local/bin
[03:01] <admrl> oh
[03:01] <ziza> i compiled a new version of qt (4.1.1)
[03:01] <admrl> i have no clue
[03:01] <admrl> wow! im to scared to do that
[03:01] <admrl> lol
[03:01] <ziza> now i want those links to point to the new dir :)
[03:02] <ziza> why? it's absolutely easy hehe :D
[03:03] <ziza> ok, thanks anyway for bothering :)
[03:03] <SkrotFFS> Doesn't ffmpeg in kubuntu dapper have support for aac?
[03:05] <ziza> SkrotFFS: as far as i know dapper uses gstreamer 0.10.3 (or was it 0.13?) as the default multimedia library throughout all applications...
[03:05] <SkrotFFS> What does that have to do with ffmpeg+aac? I'm trying to encode, not decode
[03:08] <ziza> i don't know much about these things anyway, lol, just gave you an answer from the top of my head so that you don't feel frustrated by the silence of this channel :D
[03:10] <admrl> ziza thats what i was trying to do with you i had no clue what your talking about
[03:10] <admrl> :D
[03:11] <ziza> lol
[03:14] <CellarDoor> [01:13]  <CellarDoor> I've never understood how to get that side bit up in konqueror that shows previews and file info in the left panel whilst leaving the normal folder view in the right panel... help ?
[03:14] <CellarDoor> Ive just got a simple icon view
[03:20] <_b> ive installed w32codec pack kaffine shows pink jitter and mplayer crashes when playing wmv have i missed something ?
[03:24] <samoura> hello does anyone knows about a web that sees all the command in terminal?
[03:24] <samoura> like sudo or some like that a list of terminal commands
[03:25] <samoura> !help
[03:25] <samoura> !nvidia
[03:25] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:28] <m_1una> hello everybody
[03:29] <xwolf-> sup
[03:30] <jpatrick> xwolf-: not much, just fixing bugs
[03:32] <m_1una> jpatrick: you fix bugs, I crash
[03:32] <xwolf-> that's murphy acting
[03:33] <ziza> samoura: pressing tab twice in a blank command line will display all commands available on your system
[03:34] <ziza> but that's not very helpful, instead use "apropos" and some key words to find a command that fits your query
[03:34] <samoura> twice?
[03:34] <samoura> what key is twice
[03:34] <samoura> i am from iceland
[03:34] <m_1una> yes, two times
[03:34] <ziza> yep :)
[03:34] <m_1una> yes, two times = twice
[03:34] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[03:34] <samoura> :P
[03:35] <samoura> i thought twice is a key :D
[03:35] <ziza> no, it's an adverb :P
[03:35] <MetaMorfoziS> where is the any key:)
[03:35] <m_1una> do not worry
[03:35] <xwolf-> lol
[03:36] <m_1una> XD
[03:36] <MetaMorfoziS> this is an international room:)
[03:36] <m_1una> MetaMorfoziS: where are you from?
[03:36] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^
[03:36] <MetaMorfoziS> Hungary
[03:37] <m_1una> I thouth you were kidding
[03:37] <samoura> is ubuntu 5.10 GNOME better than  kbuntu 5.10 KDM?
[03:37] <MetaMorfoziS> m_1una:  yes:)
[03:38] <samoura> really?
[03:38] <MetaMorfoziS> samoura: i don't think so:)
[03:38] <m_1una> ubuntu 5.10 is an earlier version
[03:38] <Chousuke> hm
[03:38] <MetaMorfoziS> but what you want? gnome is very simple and elegant...
[03:38] <m_1una> pardon
[03:38] <MetaMorfoziS> earlier?
[03:38] <m_1una> my fever
[03:38] <Chousuke> you can't compare gnome to kdm. :P
[03:38] <MetaMorfoziS> not 5.10 the newest stable?
[03:38] <m_1una> i am writting silly things
[03:39] <m_1una> I do not discriminate
[03:39] <m_1una> its like politics
[03:39] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[03:39] <ziza> yep Gnome is very simple, in fact it's simple as is requiring an additional application to EDIT menu items!
[03:39] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, kde has menu editor.
[03:39] <m_1una> when people divide, they loose strength
[03:40] <MetaMorfoziS> and kde has a very big design development community: kde-look.org
[03:40] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, gnome-look.org
[03:40] <MetaMorfoziS> but kde is nicer than gnome:)
[03:41] <m_1una> MetaMorfoziS: do you really think arguing about kde and gnome helps sl?
[03:41] <MetaMorfoziS> arguing?
[03:41] <MetaMorfoziS> sorry i don'T understand ^^
[03:41] <MetaMorfoziS> sl?
[03:42] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, i have the "arguable" meaning, but what is sl?
[03:42] <m_1una> sorry sl is the spanish initials for Software LIbre =FreeSoftware
[03:43] <m_1una> I am Spaniard
[03:43] <MetaMorfoziS> :) np
[03:43] <ziza> say OSS = Open Source Software :P
[03:43] <MetaMorfoziS> why "sl" needs help?
[03:43] <MetaMorfoziS> i think something lost in translation
[03:43] <m_1una> it doesn't, it is good enouth
[03:44] <m_1una> leave it
[03:44] <MetaMorfoziS> ok:)
[03:44] <m_1una> I am too ill to talk
[03:44] <MetaMorfoziS> sometimes, detto:D
[03:44] <m_1una> detto?
[03:44] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not international?
[03:44] <MetaMorfoziS> detto in hungarian means equal
[03:44] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[03:44] <MetaMorfoziS> same..
[03:45] <MetaMorfoziS> .ditto!
[03:45] <MetaMorfoziS> :))
[03:45] <MetaMorfoziS> http://dict.sztaki.hu/dict_search.php?L=HUN%3AENG%3AEngHunDict&O=HUN&flash=&E=1&sid=026c633fdd4b9370c3499b46598d4e8d&in_form=1&W=detto&M=2&P=0&C=1&A=1&T=1
[03:45] <m_1una> =
[03:45] <MetaMorfoziS> yes:DD
[03:45] <noteventime> I think ubuntu is better then kubuntu but KDE is better than Gnome so i stick with kubuntu
[03:46] <noteventime> How do i get FireFox to use artS, or any other kind of software mixing because i get no sound in Firefox
[03:46] <MetaMorfoziS> the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is the window manager:)
[03:46] <samoura> where can i get  xfce ?
[03:46] <samoura> i want to install it
[03:46] <MetaMorfoziS> apt-get?
[03:46] <noteventime> xubuntu :
[03:46] <noteventime> )
[03:46] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[03:47] <noteventime> gnome is better integrated in ubuntu than KDE in kubuntu
[03:47] <MetaMorfoziS> ok, may, but i don't know:)
[03:47] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:47] <samoura> Reading package lists... Done
[03:47] <samoura> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:47] <samoura> E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktop
[03:47] <MetaMorfoziS> try adept
[03:47] <MetaMorfoziS> or synaptic
[03:47] <m_1una> noteventime: I agree
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS> Qt: 3.3.4
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS> KDE: 3.5.1
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS> kde-config: 1.0
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS> ahye
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS> :DD
[03:48] <MetaMorfoziS> ./kdeversion
[03:49] <MetaMorfoziS> m_1una:
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[03:49] <MetaMorfoziS> so
[03:49] <MetaMorfoziS> adept is the kde's package manager
[03:49] <MetaMorfoziS> synaptic is the gnome pm
[03:49] <samoura> hello where can i download xubuntu-desktop? help please
[03:49] <m_1una> yes but I am learning so I like to do it in manual
[03:49] <m_1una> I love my terminal
[03:50] <admrl> samoura isnt that a metapackage or whatever for xfce..?
[03:50] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[03:50] <noteventime> just search xfce in adept or synaptic
[03:50] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm idnetified myself:D
[03:50] <admrl> sudo apt-cache search xfce
[03:50] <noteventime> How do i get Firefox to use software mixer ... :'(
[03:50] <noteventime> I get no sound while watching flashfiles :(
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> noteventime: you need to install the flashpalyer
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> and you need to copy or symlink it to your  ~/.mozilla/plugins directory
[03:51] <noteventime> I have but I dont get any sound :(
[03:51] <sylvian00> Hello again, I'm getting this error "Qt installation not detected. Set $QTDIR correctly and rerun." but I've got the kde-devel packages installed as Hodsee suggested before
[03:51] <noteventime> qt4-dev?
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> other programs can' sound
[03:52] <noteventime> All KDE programs anyway
[03:52] <samoura> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132056  <-help me here  i don under stand i cant find xfce
[03:53] <sylvian00> noteventime: In konquerors setting, in the dialog where you can scan for netscape plugins, tick "use artsd to send sound to other applications" or something like that.
[03:53] <samoura> i installd this and saved in home how to get it work http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/xfce/xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin?use_mirror=easynews
[03:53] <sylvian00> noteventime: I can't remeber out of the top of my head, but it says somthing like that. That'll give you sound.
[03:54] <MetaMorfoziS> noteventime: i don't know..
[03:54] <noteventime> ok
[03:54] <noteventime> Thanks
[03:54] <samoura> noteventime
[03:54] <pradeepto> hi everybody.
[03:54] <samoura> i installd this and saved in home how to get it work http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/xfce/xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin?use_mirror=easynews
[03:55] <noteventime> Why dont you use adept?
[03:55] <pradeepto> Can anybody please tell where can I find Kubuntu logos?
[03:55] <admrl> pradeepto do you want an svg..?
[03:55] <samoura> adept i want to learn how to download files and run them please
[03:55] <pradeepto> Anything that works.
[03:55] <samoura> just needed
[03:55] <samoura> i want to learn how to download files and run them please
[03:55] <pradeepto> admrl svg will be great actually.
[03:56] <noteventime> found it
[03:58] <pradeepto> admrl: do you know where can I get those ?
[03:59] <noteventime> yay it workd ^^ thanks
[03:59] <sylvian00> noteventime: No problem.
[04:00] <sylvian00> No one knows anything about my problem?
[04:00] <noteventime> Salad finers talk again :D
[04:00] <MetaMorfoziS> sylvian00: try install build-essentials
[04:01] <MetaMorfoziS> and qt* devs
[04:01] <MetaMorfoziS> qt3-mt and other...
[04:01] <sylvian00> MetaMorfoziS: I have build essentials and all the qt-dev-packages I can find.
[04:01] <MetaMorfoziS> install all thing you see... and a nice day, it works good:)
[04:01] <MetaMorfoziS> find: "qt3"
[04:01] <MetaMorfoziS> or qt4
[04:01] <pradeepto> Can anybody please tell where can I find Kubuntu logos? Please.
[04:02] <noteventime> Website?
[04:02] <MetaMorfoziS> www.kde-look.org
[04:02] <MetaMorfoziS> or kde.org
[04:02] <MetaMorfoziS> @ kde org have a specified page
[04:02] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.kde.org/stuff/
[04:02] <sylvian00> MetaMorfoziS: The only one that I know I havent got is libqt3-mt-dbg. Im installing that now
[04:03] <MetaMorfoziS> okay...
[04:03] <sylvian00> But really, shouldn't kde-devel provide me with $QTDIR?
[04:03] <noteventime> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork
[04:03] <sylvian00> Is there some way to set the variable manually?
[04:03] <noteventime> ^- There you go
[04:03] <MetaMorfoziS> sylvian00: i don't know any other...
[04:03] <noteventime> pradeepto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuArtwork
[04:04] <pradeepto> noteventime: thanks.
[04:04] <noteventime> np
[04:04] <sylvian00> MetaMorfoziS: Okey...I'llsee what happens when I get libqt3-mt-dbg installed.
[04:06] <noteventime> Does dapper drake use hardware accelerated X?
[04:07] <sylvian00> MetaMorfoziS: Still nothing..
[04:07] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[04:07] <samoura> why doesn this linux play mp3?
[04:07] <sylvian00> Does anyone know ho to set the variable $QTDIT manually?
[04:07] <MetaMorfoziS> sorry i can't help anyithing
[04:07] <samoura> why doesn this linux play mp3?
[04:07] <sylvian00> MetaMorfoziS: Thanks anyway
[04:07] <_tomas> people :'(
[04:07] <_tomas> i cant get dapper drake to start anymore :/
[04:08] <moroni> hi
[04:08] <_tomas> x complains about ONE_LEVEL something
[04:08] <_tomas> :/
[04:08] <_tomas> this problem appeared after i did a sudo apt-get upgrade :/
[04:08] <_tomas> now x wont start :/
[04:08] <osh_> Am I way off base when I think that --purge should remove config-files? I tried it on both apache and apache2 and they both left config-files in /etc/apache and /etc/apache2 respectivly.
[04:09] <samoura> why can i  play mp3? HELP ME PLEASE? TUPAC SHAKUR is the best
[04:09] <_tomas> hi samoura
[04:09] <samoura> why can i  play mp3? HELP ME
[04:09] <_tomas> you got problems with playing mp3s?
[04:09] <samoura> yess
[04:09] <osh_> !mp3
[04:09] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.13 Stopped
[04:09] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:09] <noteventime> install gstreamer-mad
[04:09] <m_1una> mplayer
[04:09] <_tomas> (y)
[04:09] <noteventime> i think the package is called
[04:10] <_tomas> yup
[04:10] <_tomas> byebye
[04:11] <hibatsu> I can't play mp3s either on dapper
[04:11] <hibatsu> do I have to install gstreamer?
[04:11] <osh_> hibatsu: probably
[04:12] <hibatsu> won't it work over xine somehow?
[04:13] <hibatsu> and do I have to install 0.8 or 0.10
[04:13] <hibatsu> ?
[04:13] <samoura> i open up adept and than search for gstreamer  full of lists 50 lists shude i install all the list?
[04:14] <samoura> if i put in mp3 this error comes up
[04:14] <samoura> An error occurred while loading media:/sde1:
[04:14] <samoura> The file or folder media:/sde1 does not exist.
[04:15] <hibatsu> Is your mp3 on a cd or another external media?
[04:15] <samoura> just a mp3 on usb
[04:15] <samoura> stick it in usb
[04:15] <hibatsu> let me guess
[04:15] <hibatsu> its not mounted?
[04:16] <hibatsu> or the usb stick is actually sda1
[04:16] <samoura> i don know i am new in linux
[04:16] <samoura> when i was in window xp i just have to stick it and than media player pupps up
[04:17] <hibatsu> so what happened when you sticked it in?
[04:17] <samoura> how likes Tupac shakur ? www.folk.is/tupac my site :P
[04:18] <samoura> error appirs ;S
[04:18] <samoura> An error occurred while loading media:/sde1:
[04:18] <samoura> The file or folder media:/sde1 does not exist.
[04:19] <hibatsu> hm
[04:19] <hibatsu> try opening a terminal
[04:19] <hibatsu> and entering:
[04:19] <hibatsu> mount /dev/sda1
[04:20] <samoura> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab :S
[04:21] <Broxtor> samoura: you have to enter in which directory you want to mount e.g. mount /dev/sda1 /home/user/mount
[04:21] <hibatsu> yeah
[04:22] <hibatsu> on kubuntu dapper, which gstreamer should I install 0.8 or 0.10?
[04:22] <hibatsu> for amarok and kaffeine?
[04:24] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ mount /dev/sda1 /home/user/mount
[04:24] <samoura> mount: only root can do that
[04:24] <samoura> ;S
[04:24] <samoura> help
[04:24] <hibatsu> exchange user in /home/user/mount through your username
[04:26] <samoura> Hibatsu like this -> mount /dev/sda1 /home/user/mount/samoura?
[04:26] <hibatsu> mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount
[04:27] <samoura> heh :P in user samoura okei now i under stand
[04:27] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount
[04:27] <samoura> mount: only root can do that
[04:27] <samoura> ;S
[04:29] <Tonio_> anyone there using yakuake ?
[04:29] <Broxtor> samoura: try: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount
[04:29] <jpatrick> Tonio_: why? :)
[04:29] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I can't find that transparency setting..........;
[04:29] <Broxtor> samoura: please make sure the folder /home/samoura/mount already exists
[04:30] <Tonio_> sounds incredible but I'm searching for about 5 minutes........
[04:30] <jpatrick> sorry I don't
[04:31] <samoura> Broxtor do you mean creat a folder with name mount?
[04:31] <samoura>  /home/samoura/
[04:32] <samoura>  /home/samoura/creat-folder-with-name-Mount  -> /home/samoura/mount
[04:32] <samoura> ?
[04:34] <hibatsu> go into /home/samoura
[04:34] <hibatsu> with konqueror
[04:34] <hibatsu> and press f10 to make a new dir
[04:34] <hibatsu> called mount
[04:35] <osh_> Hmm, I installed gstreamer (and a whole lot of deps) on a machine. Is there a simple way to remove it all again?
[04:37] <samoura> where is konqueror in my system :S ?
[04:38] <osh_> How do I get aptitude to show a list of installed packages? Like rpm -qa on an rpm-based distro.
[04:38] <MetaMorfoziS> !kbfx
[04:38] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MetaMorfoziS
[04:39] <samoura> where is konqueror in my system :S ?
[04:39] <hibatsu> do you have kde or gnome?
[04:40] <samoura> kde
[04:40] <osh_> samoura: which konqueror
[04:40] <samoura> i have kde
[04:40] <osh_> samoura: type what I told you.
[04:40] <yan747> bonjour
[04:41] <yan747> Hi
[04:41] <hibatsu> hi
[04:41] <samoura> hey thanks
[04:43] <hibatsu> did it work?
 go into /home/samoura <hibatsu> with konqueror     i see there bookmarks.xml bookmarks.xml.bak bookmarks.xml.tbcache konq_history  what shude i open up then ? :S
[04:44] <hibatsu> does the sound work now?
[04:44] <hibatsu> then the konqueror stuff isn't necessary now
[04:44] <samoura> i havent tryd yet :S
[04:45] <samoura> no i sayd thanks for find this konqueror:S
[04:45] <hibatsu> ok
[04:45] <samoura> in konqueror     i see there bookmarks.xml bookmarks.xml.bak bookmarks.xml.tbcache konq_history  what shude i open up then ? :S
[04:45] <hibatsu> then create a folder called mount
[04:46] <samoura> in there?
[04:46] <samoura> konqueror
[04:46] <hibatsu> yes
[04:46] <hibatsu> and then enter the following command into your konsole
[04:46] <hibatsu> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount
[04:47] <samoura> this -> /home/samoura/.kde/share/apps/konqueror
[04:47] <samoura> sudo /home/samoura/.kde/share/apps/konqueror?
[04:47] <samoura> sudo /home/samoura/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/mount?
[04:49] <noteventime> Does anyone know if there is work being done on the i810 drivers?
[04:50] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/samoura/mount
[04:50] <samoura> mount: you must specify the filesystem t
[04:50] <samoura> ;S
[04:51] <Jolt> Do you need an internet conn. to use the command "sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12" ??
[04:52] <samoura> tolking to me?
[04:52] <Jolt> anybody...
[04:52] <jpatrick> yes
[04:52] <noteventime> what packages do i need to install koffice?
[04:53] <noteventime> Or rather what packages are koffice
[04:54] <Jolt> jpatrick, is there any way I can do it without an internet conn.?
[04:54] <kubby510> hello everyone
[04:54] <Jolt> get it from the installation cd maybe?
[04:55] <jpatrick> Jolt: download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:55] <Jolt> how big is it?
[04:55] <noteventime> about 50mb
[04:55] <noteventime> i think
[04:55] <noteventime> if its the full kernel source
[04:56] <kubby510> I have a question about a new installation of kubuntu 5.10...
[04:56] <kubby510> I have installed it and im trying to run it for the first time and it keeps getting stuck at the point where it says "Checking Battery State"...
[04:58] <samoura> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop why doesn work sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :S
[04:58] <samoura> help me please
[04:58] <noteventime> Hmm.
[04:58] <Jolt> jpatrick, I'm lost in those packages... is there an actual link for the "linux-source-2.6.12"?
[04:58] <noteventime> Have you tried searching for xfce in adept/synaptic?
[04:58] <samoura> yess
[04:58] <samoura> i have
[04:58] <noteventime> And you cant find anything?
[04:59] <noteventime> I can find it
[04:59] <noteventime> its called xfce4
[04:59] <samoura> where?
[04:59] <noteventime> try: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[04:59] <samoura> E: Couldn't find package xfce4
[05:00] <samoura> E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-desktopsudo
[05:00] <jpatrick> Jolt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-source-2.6.12
[05:00] <samoura> i have downloaded xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin but don know how to run it
[05:01] <noteventime> Do you know how to use the console?
[05:01] <Jolt> jpatrick, thank you
[05:01] <samoura> noteventime -> i have downloaded xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin but don know how to run it
[05:01] <samoura> yess i know
[05:01] <noteventime> good go to the directory with the bin file in it
[05:01] <samoura> where?
[05:01] <noteventime> then run sudo ./xfce4-4........
[05:01] <samoura> okei
[05:02] <noteventime> the ./ is important
[05:03] <noteventime> Does it work :)
[05:04] <samoura> sudo./xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin? ;S
[05:05] <noteventime> a space after sudo ;)
[05:05] <noteventime> How do i get the new kexi package for koffice 1.5?
[05:05] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i re set the kicker's procces list?
[05:05] <samoura> sudo ./xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin;S?
[05:05] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not lists my windows
[05:06] <noteventime> samora: yes
[05:06] <noteventime> metamorfozis: restart kicker?
[05:06] <MetaMorfoziS> because i had an accident
[05:06] <MetaMorfoziS> and deleted it
[05:06] <noteventime> aha
[05:06] <noteventime> its an applet
[05:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i have kicker
[05:06] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[05:06] <MetaMorfoziS> but what applet?
[05:06] <noteventime> rightklick then add
[05:06] <MetaMorfoziS> what is it's name?
[05:06] <noteventime> wait a second il take a look
[05:06] <noteventime> taskbar
[05:07] <seezer> hi
[05:07] <noteventime> hullo
[05:07] <MetaMorfoziS> it's in hungarian..
[05:07] <MetaMorfoziS> shit
[05:07] <noteventime> haha
[05:07] <noteventime> wait, il take a look where its placed
[05:07] <MetaMorfoziS> feladatlista!!4
[05:07] <MetaMorfoziS> :DDD
[05:07] <MetaMorfoziS> okay i have it, thank you
[05:07] <noteventime> np
[05:08] <noteventime> samora: Hows it going?
[05:09] <samoura> omg my computer frisesszzzzz
[05:09] <noteventime> hmmm  :/ after running the bin file?
[05:09] <SkrotFFS> Anyone know how I can compile kmplayer for kubuntu so it's embedded with konqueror?
[05:09] <samoura> sudo ./xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin like this right?
[05:10] <noteventime> samora do you know how to edit your repoitories for apt?
[05:10] <noteventime> samora: yes
[05:10] <tristanmike> wouldn't you have to "chmod +x <filename>?
[05:10] <samoura> no :(
[05:10] <noteventime> samora: but i still think you should use apt
[05:10] <samoura> i am new in this shitt
[05:10] <noteventime> ok
[05:10] <noteventime> start adept
[05:10] <samoura> than?
[05:11] <noteventime> adept->manage repos
[05:11] <noteventime> you found it?
[05:12] <yan747> Hi
[05:12] <samoura> i am in package manager (adept)
[05:12] <noteventime> 'ello
[05:12] <yan747> what the name of stater bar for superkaramba ?
[05:12] <samoura> is that right?
[05:12] <noteventime> yes now go to adept (in the menu) -> manage repos
[05:12] <noteventime> yes
[05:13] <samoura> found it
[05:13] <noteventime> good
[05:13] <samoura> what to do than?
[05:13] <noteventime> on every line that begins with #deb rightclick and press enable
[05:14] <noteventime> only those that begin with #deb or #deb-src
[05:14] <dumezil> how do i get my bluetooth mouse paired with my laptop?  i found a utility to remove pairings, but not to add them
[05:15] <samoura> okei i done it shude i enable to ded-src?
[05:15] <samoura> okei i done it shude i enable  ded-src?
[05:15] <noteventime> You can but you dont have to
[05:15] <samoura> okei it is better to do it right? :P
[05:15] <noteventime> sure
[05:15] <noteventime> When your finished press apply
[05:16] <samoura> finito what next?
[05:16] <noteventime> press close
[05:16] <noteventime> after pressing aplpy
[05:16] <noteventime> apply*
[05:16] <samoura> okei
[05:16] <samoura> next?
[05:16] <noteventime> Now you've told apt to use some "unsupported" repositores
[05:17] <noteventime> press fetch updates
[05:17] <samoura> okei
[05:17] <noteventime> This might take a minute
[05:17] <samoura> update finish
[05:17] <noteventime> When it finishes you should be able to install xubuntu-desktop
[05:18] <samoura> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[05:18] <noteventime> yes
[05:18] <noteventime> dumezil: I think there is some kind od kbluetooth app, have you tried it?
[05:19] <samoura> okei i will come back don go away please
[05:19] <noteventime> I never had to use bloetooth so im afraid i can't help you any more. :(
[05:19] <samoura> ;S
[05:19] <noteventime> ?
[05:20] <yan747> any idea ?
[05:20] <noteventime> I was talking to dumezil
[05:20] <samoura> okei
[05:20] <samoura> :D
[05:20] <noteventime> Il stay :)
[05:20] <noteventime> yan747: What was your problem?
[05:20] <noteventime> aha
[05:20] <noteventime> Found it now
[05:22] <noteventime> I'm not sure i understood it :S
[05:24] <noteventime> 'ello
[05:24] <samoura> hello okei it worked :P but nothing is coming on the desktop:S
[05:24] <noteventime> hmmm :/ how do you mean?
[05:24] <dumezil> noteventime: i odn't know where it is...  i found a page on ubuntu's wiki talking about it...  im trudging through the directions
[05:24] <samoura> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132056
[05:26] <samoura> chack it this http://www.xfce.org/ there is a image of the desktop
[05:26] <noteventime> I know how it looks, i've used it once, but it was abit too lightweight for me :)
[05:27] <noteventime> You know you have to choose xfce at login?
[05:27] <samoura> okei where do i open it :S
[05:27] <samoura> ?
[05:28] <noteventime> at login
[05:28] <noteventime> you have to choose session type
[05:29] <noteventime> i think it is called, and there you choose xfce, its a small menu under where you enter your password/username
[05:30] <samoura> noteventime okei i don have to warry :P
[05:30] <samoura> can you help me with nvidia to update :S i know you say no
[05:31] <noteventime> sure
[05:31] <noteventime> I'l try
[05:31] <samoura> okei
[05:31] <samoura> where to start?
[05:31] <noteventime> You want to install the nvidia drivers?
[05:31] <samoura> yess
[05:32] <noteventime> ok, a minute.
[05:32] <samoura> my computer allweyz frizzzz;S
[05:32] <noteventime> ok :)
[05:32] <samoura> ;) not funny
[05:33] <samoura> i have this website by the way www.folk.is/tupac i am a tupac shakur fan :D
[05:36] <noteventime> hmm....
[05:36] <noteventime> !nvidia
[05:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:36] <noteventime> What is the name of you r graphics card?
[05:36] <samoura> :( i have read it it doesn help me :(
[05:37] <samoura> Ge force fx 6600
[05:37] <samoura> GT
[05:37] <noteventime> ok
[05:37] <voicu> hi, can i have kde 3.4 and kde 3.5 running on the same system?
[05:37] <noteventime> sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx
[05:38] <noteventime> voicu: I don't think so
[05:38] <samoura> yess it is working
[05:38] <samoura> you are my hero man
[05:38] <noteventime> hehe
[05:38] <noteventime> Np
[05:38] <noteventime> when the installation is finished
[05:39] <samoura> what than?
[05:39] <noteventime> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[05:39] <voicu> noteventime: are you sure there is no way to make them work?
[05:40] <noteventime> voicu: No, but i think they share some resources, try in the KDE channel, you will probably find someone who is better it these kind of things
[05:40] <samoura> noteventime sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules;S
[05:40] <voicu> ok
[05:40] <noteventime> samora: ok
[05:40] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[05:40] <samoura> Reading package lists... Done
[05:40] <samoura> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:40] <samoura> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules
[05:41] <noteventime> wait a minute il yake a look
[05:41] <samoura> okei
[05:41] <noteventime> what processor do you have?
[05:41] <samoura> shude i check?
[05:41] <samoura> in adept?
[05:42] <noteventime> Do yo have Intel or AMD?
[05:42] <noteventime> or something else
[05:42] <samoura> amd
[05:42] <noteventime> ok 64?
[05:42] <samoura> AMD64
[05:42] <noteventime> ok
[05:43] <noteventime> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-common
[05:43] <noteventime> I had the wrong package name
[05:43] <samoura> thanks
[05:43] <noteventime> :)
[05:43] <samoura> no it is working
[05:43] <samoura> now
[05:43] <tameritoke> Hi people
[05:43] <samoura> ;:S
[05:44] <tameritoke> I have a problem to get kubuntu
[05:44] <tameritoke> :(
[05:44] <noteventime> now run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:44] <tameritoke> I want to get the dabber release with jigdo
[05:44] <noteventime> tameritoke: Just ask :)
[05:44] <tameritoke> But I don't know which mirror to take
[05:44] <noteventime> jigdo?
[05:44] <tameritoke> yes
[05:44] <samoura> okei i will restar the computer right?
[05:44] <tameritoke> This is the fastest way to download the files
[05:45] <noteventime> NO
[05:45] <samoura> okei
[05:45] <noteventime> have you ryb sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:45] <samoura> yess
[05:45] <tameritoke> It is being offered by kubuntu, but I don't know which mirrors to take
[05:45] <samoura> i did
[05:45] <noteventime> if so press ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:45] <samoura> Warning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.
[05:45] <samoura> In order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to
[05:45] <samoura> be restarted.
[05:45] <noteventime> you only have to restart X
[05:45] <tameritoke> Is there a site where to display which mirror I may choose that all necessary files are being downloaded?!
[05:45] <noteventime> if so press ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:46] <noteventime> tameritoke: Do you run kubuntu right now?
[05:46] <samoura> backspace?
[05:46] <tameritoke> no...
[05:46] <tameritoke> I shot gentoo away and now I want to install dapper drake
[05:46] <tameritoke> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[05:46] <tameritoke> therer is it being offered
[05:46] <noteventime> the one above enter
[05:46] <samoura> what key word is backspace?
[05:46] <samoura> shift?
[05:47] <noteventime> no
[05:47] <noteventime> above enter
[05:47] <noteventime> the one you delete chars with
[05:47] <samoura> is the key ENTER? :S new english maybe i am from iceland
[05:48] <samoura> okei
[05:48] <samoura> now i got it
[05:48] <samoura> :=)
[05:48] <noteventime> ctrl+alt+backspace (backspace being the one above enter)
[05:48] <tameritoke> any ideas?
[05:48] <noteventime> hehe
[05:48] <noteventime> tameritoke: You can get the cd via bittorrent
[05:51] <noteventime> samora: ?
[05:51] <noteventime> does it work?
[05:52] <samoura> yess it is working :P
[05:52] <samoura> i love it
[05:52] <noteventime> nice
[05:52] <samoura> thank you thank you so match
[05:52] <noteventime> xfce also working?
[05:53] <samoura> jim &100000000 thanks to you
[05:53] <noteventime> NP
[05:53] <samoura> jim %100000000 thanks to you
[05:53] <noteventime> :) always glad to help
[05:53] <dumezil> is there an easy way to setup wifi?  a gui tool to show available wireless networks and connect to one and if necessary, ask for a WEP key?
[05:53] <noteventime> yes
[05:53] <dumezil> what is it?
[05:53] <noteventime> kwifimanager
[05:53] <dumezil> cool thanks
[05:54] <noteventime> I never realy tried it though because i use WPA
[05:54] <dumezil> ok so im connected to a network, but i don't have an ip address...  what do i need to do to get an ip address
[05:55] <noteventime> What is the name of the network adapter eth1?
[05:55] <dumezil> what do you mean?
[05:56] <noteventime> try writing iwconfig in the console
[05:56] <dumezil> yeah it spits out this whole bit about wlan0 and lots of stuff
[05:58] <gilrim> anyone know something about getting perl to work right?
[05:59] <dumezil> how to i tell my wireless adapter to look for an ip address when it connects to a network?
[06:00] <gilrim> run dhclient
[06:00] <samoura> noteventime do you know about this -> http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/sources.php i installd and i want run it can you teach me how to download program and run the program ?
[06:00] <samoura> 	psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz
[06:01] <noteventime> sure
[06:01] <samoura> can you help me
[06:01] <samoura> just this and than i will lif you alone
[06:02] <noteventime> dumezil: try ifup wlan0
[06:02] <noteventime> samora: have you looked if you can find it in adept?
[06:02] <dumezil> noteventime: i did that and i got no dhcp offers...
[06:03] <samoura> i vill luck
[06:04] <noteventime> ok
[06:04] <noteventime> dumex
[06:04] <noteventime> dumezil: are you using wep or wpa?
[06:05] <noteventime> samora: Can you find it?
[06:05] <samoura> i cant find it there ;S psotnic
[06:06] <noteventime> Haha, psotnic again, or was it you asking yesterday?
[06:06] <noteventime> Someone asket about psotnic yesterday too :P
[06:06] <samoura> not me?
[06:06] <samoura> really? :D
[06:06] <noteventime> Yes
[06:06] <samoura> LOL
[06:07] <noteventime> Ok
[06:07] <noteventime> That is a sourcecode package which you have to compile
[06:07] <samoura> okei
[06:07] <noteventime> first you need to extract it
[06:07] <noteventime> like a zip file
[06:08] <dumezil> noteventime: im not using either...  its an open network
[06:08] <samoura> wait i am trying to find the home place
[06:08] <noteventime> dumezil: ok
[06:08] <samoura> new dektop :P
[06:08] <noteventime> ok :)
[06:08] <noteventime> dumezil: have you tried using wifimanager?
[06:09] <Tonio_> noteventime: kwifimanager ?
[06:09] <noteventime> yes
[06:11] <samoura> fainaly found it i think i was wery fast
[06:12] <noteventime> ?
[06:12] <samoura> okei how to excute?
[06:12] <noteventime> you need to compile it first, it only sourcecode
[06:12] <allee> dumezil: in case it's not answered yet: to pair the mouse 'sudo hidd --search' and press the 'pairing' buttun on your mouse. You may have to repeat it if it does not work on first go
[06:13] <noteventime> first open the console and go the the directory where you extracted the files
[06:13] <samoura> how to  compile?
[06:13] <noteventime> first open the console and go the the directory where you extracted the files
[06:13] <noteventime> then ./configure
[06:13] <samoura> you tolking to me or anothor guy?
[06:13] <noteventime> you
[06:13] <samoura> okei sorry i am silly
[06:15] <noteventime> Np :)
[06:15] <noteventime> Sorry im a bit slow im helping a friend with a thing at the same time
[06:15] <samoura> i savded on the desktop so i say sudo /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz?
[06:16] <samoura> is it right?
[06:16] <noteventime> first you have to extract the files from the tar.gz
[06:16] <samoura> okei
[06:16] <noteventime> tar.gz is kinda lika a zip file
[06:16] <samoura> if i click it it wont open ;S
[06:17] <noteventime> hmmm... try: ark /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz
[06:18] <samoura> okei thanks finished extracted
[06:18] <samoura> now knosole
[06:18] <noteventime> yes
[06:18] <noteventime> go to the directory where you extracted the files
[06:19] <samoura> i am in there and than?
[06:19] <noteventime> ./configure
[06:20] <samoura> ./configure bash: ./configure: No such file or directory ;(
[06:21] <noteventime> try ls and see what it outputs
[06:21] <noteventime> It should work, I think your in the wrong directory
[06:21] <samoura> in konsole?
[06:21] <noteventime> yes
[06:21] <samoura> just ls?
[06:22] <noteventime> yes
[06:22] <samoura> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `in'
[06:22] <noteventime> ls
[06:22] <noteventime> not is :)
[06:22] <samoura> Desktop  xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin
[06:23] <samoura> what than?
[06:23] <noteventime> Your not in the directory where you extracted the files
[06:23] <noteventime> your in your home directory
[06:23] <samoura> it is on the desktop
[06:23] <noteventime> then cd Desktop
[06:23] <wincide> hi, someone who uses openlazslo please ??
[06:24] <noteventime> Sorry, i dont even knoww what that is :P
[06:24] <noteventime> samora: ???
[06:25] <noteventime> samora: Have you fount the folder where you extracted the files
[06:25] <samoura> no?
[06:25] <noteventime> cd Desktop
[06:25] <noteventime> then ls again
[06:26] <samoura> okei than
[06:26] <noteventime> what does ls output?
[06:27] <samoura> blue color Desktop  whit colorxfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin
[06:27] <burepe> !japanese
[06:27] <ubotu> burepe: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:27] <jpatrick> !ja
[06:27] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jpatrick
[06:28] <noteventime> hmm
[06:28] <burepe> I need to install Japanese input. I though it might tell me
[06:28] <noteventime> I've been trying to get ot too
[06:28] <samoura> hey wait
[06:28] <noteventime> Google for ot
[06:28] <samoura> :P
[06:29] <blackflag> hello all
[06:29] <noteventime> samora, what was the name of the folder you extracted the files to?
[06:29] <noteventime> 'ello
[06:29] <blackflag> does someone know a good hylafax client?
[06:30] <noteventime> hylafax-client?
[06:30] <jpatrick> skim?
[06:30] <blackflag> skim? where can I find that?
[06:31] <jpatrick> it's in Dapper
[06:31] <Mrono> hi
[06:31] <noteventime> 'ello
[06:32] <blackflag> okay I have breezy
[06:32] <noteventime> blackflag: there is a package called hylafax-client?
[06:32] <noteventime> ops there was not supposed to ba a ?
[06:32] <CellarDoor> hello
[06:32] <CellarDoor> :P
[06:32] <noteventime> 'ello
[06:32] <CellarDoor> I mean, :)
[06:33] <jpatrick> blackflag: might be in backports
[06:33] <CellarDoor> anyone know much about konqueror ?
[06:33] <noteventime> A bit :)
[06:33] <samoura> i don have to switch
[06:33] <noteventime> ok
[06:34] <CellarDoor> I've seen screenshots where konqueror has a left panel that has info and previews but I cant see it anywhere in konqueror, do I need a plugin ?
[06:34] <blackflag> Yes there IS a hylaclient package
[06:35] <blackflag> but it is not accesible
[06:35] <noteventime> CellarDoor: Yes, it is a plugin i've read about it in a tutorial sometime
[06:35] <noteventime> blackflag: How do you mean?
[06:35] <CellarDoor> is it on the repos ?
[06:35] <samoura> noteventime Desktop  xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin but i have extracted psotnic-0.2.7
[06:36] <noteventime> where have wwyou extracted it?
[06:36] <blackflag> the client is not a gui
[06:36] <noteventime> please give the full path
[06:36] <samoura> okei i am gonna install new and put it on the desktop wait a min
[06:36] <blackflag> I only find hylafax gui clients for M$ !!!
[06:37] <blackflag> and nothing for linux or KDE
[06:37] <noteventime> http://www.further.com/jeremy/khylafax
[06:37] <noteventime> http://freshmeat.net/projects/movifax/
[06:38] <noteventime> blackflag: Take a look at those
[06:39] <blackflag> khylaFAX > not found under that URL
[06:39] <noteventime> ok
[06:39] <noteventime> sorry, what about the other one
[06:41] <blackflag> I have a look...
[06:41] <samoura> noteventime okei i have downloaded agein and extracted to desktop what to do But one problem why comes this up when i press Desktop  xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin;S
[06:42] <noteventime> Sorry, but I didnt understand the question. :(
[06:42] <samoura> in knosole LS Desktop  xfce4-4.2.3.2-installer.bin
[06:42] <noteventime> ok
[06:42] <noteventime> cd Deskrop
[06:42] <noteventime> and youl get to the desktop
[06:43] <samoura> cd dekstop in knosole?
[06:43] <noteventime> cd Desktop
[06:43] <noteventime> in konsole
[06:43] <samoura> okei
[06:43] <samoura> and than?
[06:43] <Mrono> hmm
[06:43] <Mrono> !bin
[06:43] <ubotu> Mrono: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:44] <Mrono> I don't remember how to install .bin
[06:44] <Mrono> ah
[06:44] <tristanmike> shouldn't you "chmod +x file.bin" first?
[06:44] <noteventime> sudo ./NAME_OF_BIN
[06:44] <noteventime> yes
[06:44] <Mrono> yeah
[06:44] <Mrono> make sure you set the permissions
[06:44] <noteventime> samora: are you in the folder
[06:44] <tristanmike> one can also "checkinstall file.bin" too
[06:45] <Mrono> sudo chmod +x <file>
[06:45] <Mrono> sudo ./<file>
[06:45] <noteventime> that should work :)
[06:46] <samoura> noteventime ups i am a litl confused i am trying to install psotnic
[06:46] <noteventime> Yay, 9 hours of monkey island music
[06:46] <samoura> it is not bin
[06:46] <samoura> ;S
[06:47] <noteventime> samora: Go to the directory where you extraced the files in the konsole
[06:47] <samoura> okei
[06:48] <noteventime> You there
[06:48] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ here
[06:49] <samoura> and what to write there?
[06:49] <noteventime> ok
[06:49] <noteventime> did you extrace all the files to the desktop?
[06:49] <samoura> yess
[06:49] <samoura> yes sorry
[06:49] <noteventime> ok
[06:49] <noteventime> ./configure
[06:50] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$  ./configure
[06:50] <samoura> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:50] <samoura> :S i am in deep shit
[06:50] <noteventime> then you didnt extract them to the desktop? ;)
[06:50] <Dasnipa`> is there a file named configure?
[06:50] <samoura> okei i vill see that agein
[06:50] <Mrono> by default they extract to your home folder
[06:51] <Dasnipa`> on occasion a chmod +x configure is needed
[06:51] <Dasnipa`> but the permissions should be set
[06:51] <noteventime> I  think you extracted them to a folder on your desktop
[06:51] <noteventime> try ls
[06:51] <samoura> yes
[06:51] <samoura> i did that
[06:51] <noteventime> what dos it show
[06:51] <samoura> psotnic-0.2.7  psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz  trash.desktop
[06:52] <noteventime> good
[06:52] <noteventime> now cd psotnic-0.2.7
[06:52] <noteventime> It was inside the folder psotnic-0.2.7
[06:52] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$
[06:52] <noteventime> try ./configure now
[06:53] <samoura> YEAH
[06:53] <samoura> baby
[06:53] <noteventime> hehe
[06:53] <Dasnipa`> not dont yet
[06:53] <Dasnipa`> ;)
[06:53] <noteventime> this could tae a minute or two
[06:53] <samoura> okei what next?
[06:53] <Dasnipa`> make
[06:54] <Dasnipa`> then sudo make install
[06:54] <noteventime> make compiles it ("translates it to binary code)
[06:54] <tristanmike> sudo checkinstall
[06:54] <noteventime> brb
[06:54] <tristanmike> it's recommended that you use "sudo checkinstall"  Will have to install "checkinstall"
[06:55] <noteventime> I have o go for a few minutes
[06:55] <noteventime> Il brb
[06:55] <samoura> okei
[06:56] <ricky_ds> Hi, I have problems making samba work on kubuntu. I configured it by right-clicking on a folder and saying "share". But it doesn't appear in my samba places, nor on the winXP client. Can anyone help?
[06:58] <jrhonk> why kubuntu uses memory so much? about 300-400mb
[06:58] <jrhonk> i have 1gb ram memory
[06:58] <Dasnipa`> jrhonk, linux manages memory a lot differently from other operating systems
[06:59] <MetaMorfoziS> anybody wants to run an ut server?
[06:59] <MetaMorfoziS> :)))
[06:59] <MetaMorfoziS> ut2k4
[06:59] <bhna> jrhonk: most memory is used as harddisk-cache
[06:59] <Mrono> lol
[06:59] <samoura> you abck yppi
[07:00] <noteventime_brb> im back
[07:00] <noteventime_brb> My onky uses about 190mb
[07:00] <jrhonk> can i remove harddisk-cache? sorry i'm noob
[07:00] <samoura> yppi thanks man
[07:01] <Dasnipa`> you dont want to jrhonk
[07:01] <tristanmike> I'm using 400 too, but I got superkaramba and Amarok running
[07:01] <noteventime_brb> samora: all working?
[07:01] <Dasnipa`> it would slow down your performance
[07:01] <bhna> jrhonk: why?
[07:01] <Dasnipa`> its not a problem that so much ram is in use
[07:01] <samoura> what shude i do after ./config
[07:01] <noteventime_brb> make
[07:01] <samoura> make?
[07:01] <noteventime_brb> only make
[07:01] <samoura> in console?
[07:01] <tristanmike> samoura, yes, "make" is a command
[07:01] <samoura> chill
[07:01] <noteventime_brb> make compiles the code
[07:01] <tristanmike> yup, in a console
[07:02] <tristanmike> in the same folder where you ran ./configure
[07:02] <jrhonk> gnome uses about 100-200mb
[07:02] <samoura> brb
[07:04] <bhna> jrhonk: how do you test this?
[07:04] <Dasnipa`> jrhonk left
[07:05] <Dasnipa`> i think the problem mostly was that he was probably familiar with windows where having 300-400 mb of ram in use is a very bad thing while that percentage of ram in use is normal in linux he was just confused
[07:05] <Mrono> how do I upgrade to KDE 5
[07:05] <Mrono> !upgrade
[07:05] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, Upgrading to dapper? Use the dist-upgrade manager and /join #ubuntu+1
[07:05] <samoura> i back
[07:05] <Dasnipa`> KDE 5?
[07:05] <Mrono> lol
[07:05] <Mrono> sorry
[07:05] <Mrono> 3.5
[07:05] <noteventime> add repository
[07:05] <samoura> noteventime
[07:05] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ make
[07:05] <samoura> bash: make: command not found
[07:06] <Dasnipa`> ahh
[07:06] <noteventime> samora: Ok you need another package
[07:06] <Dasnipa`> you need to get the untils for that samoura
[07:06] <Dasnipa`> atils*
[07:06] <Dasnipa`> blah typing utils*
[07:06] <samoura> is hi right noteventime?
[07:06] <noteventime> Il try to find the package anme
[07:06] <Dasnipa`> build-essentials package should contain make shouldnt it?
[07:07] <noteventime> would be wierd otherwise :P
[07:07] <noteventime> sudp apt-get install build-essentials
[07:07] <Dasnipa`> otherwise its automake1.9
[07:08] <samoura>  sudp apt-get install build-essentials?
[07:08] <Dasnipa`> sudo
[07:08] <Otis> Evening, Mplayer plays WMV files fine but if I open them with KMplayer, it takes minutes before playback begins. I can provide the console output of KMplayer for anyone kind enough to help me.
[07:08] <samoura> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[07:08] <Dasnipa`> sounds like a question for the mplayer development team
[07:08] <tristanmike> sudo apt-get install build-essential   -no "s"
[07:08] <noteventime> use paste bin and post the URL and il do my best
[07:09] <samoura> okei
[07:09] <noteventime> samora: Did you get the package?
[07:09] <tristanmike> samoura, while you're at it, "sudo apt-get install checkinstall"
[07:09] <Dasnipa`> as much as we'd like to... we cant have knowledge of every individual program in linux Otis: your best bet is tracking down the mplayer forums/irc channel
[07:09] <samoura> http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/sources.php
[07:09] <Dasnipa`> yes, checkinstall is a good one to have too
[07:10] <samoura> and try the 	psotnic-current.tar.gz
[07:10] <Otis> Dasnipa`: I don't have a problem with mplayer, I have a problem w/ kmplayer
[07:16] <Dasnipa`> noteventime, i just looked at the package for that util samoura is trying to install
[07:16] <noteventime> ok
[07:16] <Dasnipa`> samoura, youll have to type make dynamic    to get it to compile
[07:16] <noteventime> dynamic linking?
[07:17] <Dasnipa`> theres three targets
[07:17] <noteventime> ok
[07:17] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ i am in there
[07:17] <samoura> okei what than?
[07:17] <Dasnipa`> typing make gives the target choice and says dynamic is the usual one
[07:17] <Dasnipa`> and theres a crapload of warnings that g++ spits... hopefully the programmers of this program fix that later
[07:18] <noteventime> Hehe, no wonder it wasnt in the deb repos :)
[07:18] <Dasnipa`> ~/program_tarballs/psotnic-current$ make
[07:18] <Dasnipa`> Available targets:
[07:18] <Dasnipa`> * dynamic (prefered for most systems)
[07:18] <Dasnipa`> * static
[07:18] <Dasnipa`> * debug
[07:18] <samoura> make dynamic doesn work
[07:19] <noteventime> cd psotnic-0.2.7
[07:19] <noteventime> then make dynamic
[07:20] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ make dynami
[07:20] <samoura> bash: make: command not found
[07:20] <samoura> ;S
[07:20] <samoura> ups config right?
[07:20] <samoura> first ./config
[07:20] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get install make?
[07:20] <Dasnipa`> jpatrick, its not make its automake1.9
[07:21] <Dasnipa`> sudo apt-get install automake1.9
[07:21] <jpatrick> oh yeah
[07:22] <samoura> dasnip & noteventime thanks i did sudo apt-get install automake1.9 and it worked what is next
[07:22] <samoura> ?
[07:23] <Dasnipa`> make dynamic
[07:24] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$  make dynamic
[07:24] <samoura> bash: make: command not found
[07:24] <Dasnipa`> hrms
[07:24] <samoura> it doesn work :S
[07:25] <Dasnipa`> oh wait automake is the package for generating makefiles
[07:25] <Dasnipa`> not execing them
[07:25] <Dasnipa`> i always get the two confused
[07:26] <samoura> okei and does that mean i am finshed?
[07:26] <samoura> can i now make many boots?
[07:27] <Mrono> hey
[07:27] <Dasnipa`> no you need a package for the correct make
[07:27] <Dasnipa`> let me find it
[07:27] <Mrono> i'm having trouble installing a splash screen
[07:27] <Mrono> it uses the Mooding engine
[07:27] <Mrono> but I can't figure out how to install it
[07:27] <Mrono> moodin*
[07:27] <samoura> mrono you ll have to wait man dasnipa is helping me
[07:28] <Mrono> I know i'm just throwing it out incase someone else is in the room
[07:28] <noteventime> sorry I'm unable to help right now. I'l probably be able to do so in a few minutes
[07:28] <Mrono> lol
[07:28] <Mrono> np
[07:29] <Dasnipa`> samoura, sudo apt-get install make
[07:29] <samoura> okei
[07:29] <samoura> thanks
[07:30] <samoura> is it now ready?
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> after getting the package make you will be ready to run make dynamic
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> and that command will then work
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> then youll want to type 'make install' after make dynamic
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> and then you will be done
[07:30] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ make dynamic
[07:30] <samoura> make: *** No rule to make target `dynamic'.  Stop.
[07:30] <Dasnipa`> just try make then
[07:31] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ make
[07:31] <samoura> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[07:31] <Dasnipa`> really hrms
[07:31] <samoura> mybe sudo make?
[07:31] <Dasnipa`> no
[07:31] <Dasnipa`> do an ls
[07:32] <Dasnipa`> and look for anything that has makefile in it
[07:32] <samoura> in ls are hunderds of somthing i don know but there are match of list
[07:32] <Dasnipa`> you might have to ./configure again if the configure script didnt detect make it might have not generated the makefile
[07:32] <Dasnipa`> try ./configure again
[07:33] <samoura> okei than?
[07:33] <Dasnipa`> does it look like it went thru?
[07:33] <samoura> yes it does
[07:33] <Dasnipa`> does the output say it generated makefiles?
[07:33] <samoura> the config worked
[07:34] <Dasnipa`> okay there _should_ be a make file now
[07:34] <Dasnipa`> try make dynamic again
[07:34] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ ./configure
[07:34] <samoura> [*]  Running system check (this may take a while)
[07:34] <samoura> [*]  Operating system: GNU/Linux
[07:34] <samoura> `-> testing ipv4.c: failed
[07:34] <samoura> woo hoo hoo, your system cannot compile event the simplet code, there is something really wrong with it at tests/test.pm line 51.
[07:34] <Dasnipa`> okay well that is a failure message from ./configure
[07:34] <Dasnipa`> that explains why it didnt work...
[07:35] <samoura> maybe install anothor package?
[07:35] <samoura> i just installd 1 package
[07:35] <Dasnipa`> do me a favor and type g++ at the console and tell me what it outputs
[07:36] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ g++
[07:36] <samoura> bash: g++: command not found
[07:37] <Dasnipa`> heh
[07:37] <samoura> what heh?
[07:37] <Dasnipa`> yeah they didnt have you get a compiler
[07:37] <samoura> and?
[07:37] <Dasnipa`> sudo apt-get install g++
[07:38] <sebastian> I love ubuntu/kubuntu but why the heck cd burning is not working???
[07:38] <samoura> okei and than?
[07:38] <xChomp> hi! what package do i have to install to get the microsoft fonts?
[07:38] <Dasnipa`> then try the ./configure again
[07:39] <samoura> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?  ./configure
[07:39] <samoura> Abort.
[07:39] <xChomp> ouch!
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> oh you wanted to type y
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> so try sudo apt-get install g++
[07:39] <Dasnipa`> then type y
[07:40] <samoura> okei
[07:40] <samoura> it downloaded
[07:40] <samoura> what than?
[07:40] <Dasnipa`> now try the ./confugyre
[07:40] <Dasnipa`> ./configure
[07:40] <Dasnipa`> *
[07:41] <kubby510> hi everyone
[07:41] <samoura> Uhhhhh i love it is this over
[07:41] <samoura> :P
[07:41] <Dasnipa`> did it work this time samoura ?
[07:41] <Dasnipa`> what did it output
[07:41] <samoura> yes
[07:41] <samoura> :P
[07:41] <Dasnipa`> what did it output?
[07:41] <Dasnipa`> many lines?
[07:41] <samoura> yes
[07:41] <Mrono> hi kubby
[07:42] <Dasnipa`> what was the last line it outputted?
[07:42] <xChomp> where do i have to put the microsoft fonts so that i can use it, please?
[07:42] <samoura> Random seed (seed.h) exists, using existing one.
[07:42] <Mrono> hey kubby you perchanch know how to install moddin splash screens?
[07:42] <noteventime> How is it going :) you getting the hang of it samora :)
[07:42] <Dasnipa`> okay samoura
[07:42] <Dasnipa`> now make dynamic
[07:42] <Mrono> xchomp you use the font installer
[07:42] <kubby510> no sorry mrono
[07:42] <kubby510> im a noob :p
[07:42] <samoura> uhh buja
[07:42] <Mrono> unfortunately so am i
[07:42] <samoura> it worked
[07:42] <kubby510> I need help too :(
[07:43] <Mrono> what is it
[07:43] <xChomp> Mrono: and what is the command to start the font installer?
[07:43] <Mrono> kcontrol &
[07:43] <kubby510> everyone if anyone can help me with this problem of my computer freezing when it reaches "Checking battery state" could you please let me know! :)
[07:43] <Dasnipa`> samoura, now sudo make install
[07:43] <Mrono> try messin with the spci
[07:43] <Mrono> apci*
[07:43] <noteventime>  /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[07:43] <kubby510> apic?
[07:44] <samoura> what?
[07:44] <samoura>  sudo make install
[07:44] <noteventime> yes
[07:44] <noteventime> I think the font folder is /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[07:44] <noteventime> samora
[07:44] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7$ sudo make install
[07:44] <samoura> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[07:44] <Mrono> xchomp: run command, "kcontrol &", the font installer is under administration at the bottom
[07:44] <Dasnipa`> apparently there isnt an install for it
[07:45] <Dasnipa`> samoura, now to run the program
[07:45] <Dasnipa`> cd bin
[07:45] <kubby510> should i try the "linux noapic nolapic" option at installation?
[07:45] <xChomp> Mrono: alright, thank you!
[07:45] <Mrono> np
[07:45] <samoura> okei than?
[07:45] <Dasnipa`> and then ./psotnic
[07:45] <Mrono> apic?
[07:45] <Dasnipa`> with the correct flags and paths
[07:45] <Mrono> apci
[07:45] <Mrono> you can
[07:46] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin$ ./psotnic
[07:46] <samoura> Syntax: ./psotnic [-v]  [-p]  [-c decypted config]  [cryped config] 
[07:46] <Dasnipa`> thats how to run the program you just installed samoura
[07:46] <kubby510> well
[07:46] <samoura> :)
[07:46] <kubby510> the flag is "noapic" and "nolapic"
[07:46] <samoura> Noteventime thanks
[07:46] <Dasnipa`> samoura, what is the goal/purpose for installing this psotnic program?
[07:46] <noteventime> Its an IRC bot
[07:46] <Dasnipa`> i dont know what the program is/what it does
[07:46] <kubby510> would a flag like that possibly help with a battery check problem?
[07:46] <noteventime> aperently
[07:46] <Dasnipa`> oh
[07:47] <samoura> okei shude i now start up x chat?
[07:47] <Dasnipa`> would be nice if they included a manpage so i could look up what all their flags mean
[07:47] <noteventime> :) Well hope its good samoura becuse it was lots of work XD It's no problem though
[07:47] <Mrono> ok
[07:47] <noteventime> Ok, i have to go and eat now
[07:47] <kubby510> POLL OF THE DAY: Why is ubuntu such a PITA to install???
[07:47] <kubby510> :(
[07:47] <noteventime> Bye
[07:47] <Mrono> so who here knows how to install moodin themes
[07:48] <Mrono> lol
[07:48] <samoura> Noteventime YOU rock man but TUPAC is the best :P
[07:48] <Mrono> it's not to install
[07:48] <Mrono> just to configure
[07:48] <xChomp> Mrono: but i cannot add TTF fonts with it
[07:48] <Mrono> I did
[07:49] <Dasnipa`> samoura, http://polibuda.info/~grusin for more info. should be a manual for how to use the program there
[07:49] <xChomp> it says: "Only fonts may be installed"
[07:49] <Mrono> I did
[07:49] <Mrono> i installed both .ttf and .TTF
[07:50] <xChomp> Mrono: do you need to install a special font server first or something?
[07:50] <Mrono> not that I know of
[07:51] <Eruantalon> Anyone know geda? I don't seem to have refdes_renum installed with the kubuntu packages... anyone know where i can get it?
[07:52] <Eruantalon> nvm
[07:52] <Eruantalon> Found it in geda-utils
[07:52] <xChomp> Mrono: ahh now it works... the fonts had the wrong rights :) my bad!
[07:53] <samoura> dashnipa where is this boot installd?
[07:53] <samoura> please tell me
[07:55] <osh_> samoura: /boot?
[07:56] <samoura> i downloaded Psotnic
[07:56] <samoura> and want to know where it is installd
[07:57] <Dasnipa`> its installed in ~/Desktop/<your psotnic dir>/bin
[07:57] <Dasnipa`> or maybe just ~/Desktop/<your psotnic dir> will be needed
[07:58] <Dasnipa`> something like that
[07:58] <samoura> okei
[07:59] <samoura> how can change the display menu change pictures
[07:59] <samoura> it is to brigness
[07:59] <samoura> it is to brigtness
[08:00] <Mrono> moodin splash screens
[08:00] <Mrono> anybody
[08:02] <Dasnipa`> samoura, maybe read the psonic manual on their website to find out that info
[08:02] <samoura> okei
[08:03] <vikke_> what amaroK output-plugin / engine supports mp3 format?
[08:04] <osh_> !mp3
[08:04] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.13 Stopped
[08:04] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:05] <vikke_> oki
[08:05] <JUDGE> crap.. I tried to add deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ to my adept package manager for kubuntu but now it wont run and I cant edit the list!
[08:07] <JUDGE> anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
[08:07] <Mrono> lol
[08:07] <Mrono> I did the same thing
[08:07] <Mrono> yeah
[08:08] <Mrono> I do
[08:08] <Mrono> 1 sec and i'll find the file
[08:08] <JUDGE> im a linux noob... so really just trying to learn.. have no idea how to fix it.. much appreciated
[08:09] <Mrono> I am too
[08:09] <Mrono> only been on for a few days
[08:09] <JUDGE> so were you able to get that repositiory to work?
[08:09] <Mrono> !adept
[08:09] <ubotu> [adept]  a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:09] <Mrono> I use synaptic
[08:09] <Mrono> mainly cuz adept screwed up for me
[08:09] <Mrono> do a reboot
[08:10] <Mrono> it might help
[08:10] <Mrono> i'll try to find the file
[08:10] <JUDGE> alrighty
[08:10] <Mrono> I saw it a few days ago
[08:10] <Mrono> there it is
[08:11] <Mrono> ok
[08:11] <Mrono> judge
[08:11] <JUDGE> yes?
[08:11] <Mrono> /etc/apt/
[08:11] <Mrono> edit the sources file
[08:11] <Mrono> sources.list
[08:12] <JUDGE> er.... how? lol
[08:12] <osh_> reboot is rarely a solution in linux imho. not unless you've screwed up royally with some kernel crap...
[08:12] <Mrono> I have that same repository and synaptic or adept have no problem with it
[08:12] <Mrono> lol
[08:12] <Mrono> I did but then I rebooted and it was fine
[08:12] <Mrono> osh_ you know how to install moodin themes
[08:13] <JUDGE> so look in the /etc/apt/ folder and edit the sources list?
[08:13] <osh_> Mrono: moodin? never heard of it. put some files in some theme dir probably.
[08:14] <Mrono> hmmmm
[08:15] <JUDGE> ahh ok .. I found the source list
[08:15] <Mrono> heh
[08:15] <Mrono> sweet
[08:15] <Mrono> I got my powermate to flash intime with my music
[08:15] <JUDGE> so I should remove the entry that is messing everything up and then get the synaptic program?
[08:15] <Mrono> nah
[08:16] <Mrono> go to a command line and type
[08:16] <Mrono> apt-get install synaptic
[08:16] <Mrono> er
[08:16] <Mrono> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[08:16] <JUDGE> can I type that in the run command window?
[08:16] <Mrono> not that I know of
[08:17] <noteventime_brb> samoura: Are you still here ?
[08:17] <morrow> arg... this damn shift-insert / x-window copy thing... when i mark some text it does not get into the klipper (for use with shift-insert into the konsole) but middle-click works...
[08:17] <JUDGE> ok.. So use the terminal program for that command?
[08:19] <JUDGE> damn.. I removed the line in the source list.. but it wont save. even simple tasks are confusing for me.. lol
[08:20] <Mrono> ah
[08:20] <Mrono> yeah
[08:20] <Mrono> use the terminal
[08:20] <Mrono> i dislike the klipper
[08:21] <JUDGE> Mrono I cant edit the source list.. wont let me save it.. I don't have the correct permission .. im the only user.. so wtf?
[08:22] <Mrono> heh
[08:22] <Mrono> hmm
[08:22] <Mrono> what was that command
[08:22] <JUDGE> ?
[08:23] <Mrono> !dorun
[08:23] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono
[08:23] <Mrono> hmm
[08:23] <Mrono> run this command
[08:23] <Mrono> gksuexec
[08:23] <Mrono> ] what does it give you
[08:24] <JUDGE> me?
[08:24] <Mrono> yeah
[08:24] <Mrono> it should give you a dialog
[08:24] <noteventime_brb> !mono
[08:24] <ubotu> [mono]  implementation of .NET framework on linux.  For details http://www.go-mono.com
[08:24] <JUDGE> typing in the run command window... I get "could not run specified command"
[08:24] <Mrono> thought so
[08:24] <Mrono> open up a command windpow
[08:25] <Mrono> a console
[08:25] <Mrono> type ssu
[08:25] <Mrono> su
[08:25] <JUDGE> is that the terminal?
[08:25] <Mrono> yeah
[08:25] <JUDGE> ok
[08:25] <Mrono> then cd /etc/apt
[08:25] <Mrono> then pico sources.list
[08:25] <Mrono> scroll down till you see the repository
[08:26] <Mrono> sel it
[08:26] <Mrono> then use ctrl+o to save the file
[08:26] <Mrono> del it*
[08:26] <Mrono> and ctrl+x to exit the file
[08:26] <JUDGE> I typed su .. asked for password, I typed my password .. it said failed authentication..
[08:27] <pussfeller> anyone used wengophone?
[08:28] <pussfeller> i wanna do long distance but i dont wanna go thru the hassle of setting up asterisk again
[08:28] <Mrono> lol
[08:28] <Mrono> type cd /etc/apt
[08:28] <Mrono> then sudo pico sources.list
[08:28] <Mrono> ahhhh
[08:29] <gilrim> could anyone here give me some help on a issue with perl, I suspect it's related to some path-variable... I'm trying to setup fuseftp, but it's complaining about missing dependencies, but I've already installed those with cpan..
[08:30] <JUDGE> ok im in
[08:30] <samoura> hello i installd http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/src/psotnic-current.tar.gz but how where is the fail that runs the installer i installd it excuted and confuger it but i don know the fail i installd
[08:31] <samoura> to run the irc boot
[08:32] <Mrono> judge
[08:32] <Mrono> remove the repository
[08:32] <samoura> i know where psotnic-0.2.7 is but i dont know what is the fail that runs it?
[08:32] <Mrono> like you wanted to
[08:32] <JUDGE> so frustrating... I removed the offending line... and saved the file.. but its still in there..
[08:32] <samoura> i know where psotnic-0.2.7 is but i dont know what is the fail that runs it?
[08:32] <Mrono> lol
[08:33] <samoura> shut up i am new in this
[08:33] <JUDGE> its like every thing I try doesnt work in this damn os
[08:37] <JUDGE> seriously.. open the sources list inthe console, select the line, delete the line.. save the file.. open the file again to check.. and the line is back.
[08:38] <Mrono> lol
[08:39] <noteventime_brb> JUDGE: what editor did you use?
[08:40] <noteventime_brb> samoura: it probably installed into one of the bin directories so you dont have to woory about where it installed it, jus run the command
[08:41] <JUDGE> i was trying to edit it in kate, then the terminal... nothing is working
[08:43] <JUDGE> permission denied.. no matter what I try.. I cant edit that sources list
[08:43] <noteventime_brb> JUDGE; sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:43] <noteventime_brb> You have to edit is as su
[08:44] <JUDGE> "You have to edit is as su" I'm sorry, I dont know what that means
[08:44] <Mrono> root pretty much
[08:45] <JUDGE> i have the file open in nano.. looking at the contents..
[08:45] <Mrono> note, he was editing it as su
[08:45] <Mrono> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:46] <JUDGE> i can see the line in the file I want to remove.. when I remove it and attempt to save the file.. I get permission denied
[08:46] <noteventime_brb> JUDGE: su is superuser, like the administrator
[08:46] <JUDGE> ok
[08:46] <noteventime_brb> You (normal user) dosnt have permission to edit system files
[08:47] <noteventime_brb> excuse the english in the last sentence
[08:47] <JUDGE> how can I become super? (heh)
[08:47] <noteventime_brb> sudo THE_KOMMAND
[08:47] <JUDGE> oh
[08:47] <noteventime_brb> so to edit the file as super user
[08:47] <noteventime_brb> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <noteventime_brb> ;)
[08:48] <samoura> noteventime
[08:48] <noteventime_brb> if you want the kde version: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:49] <samoura> can you help me ?
[08:49] <noteventime_brb> sasure
[08:49] <JUDGE> omg.. Ithink it worked
[08:49] <noteventime_brb> hehe
[08:49] <noteventime_brb> samoura: sure
[08:49] <samoura> noteventime how do i run the boot ?
[08:49] <samoura> noteventime how do i run the boot ? :(
[08:49] <noteventime> boot?
[08:49] <samoura> that you helpd me to install
[08:49] <samoura> Bot
[08:49] <noteventime> aha
[08:49] <samoura> ;/
[08:49] <noteventime> sorry, i should have understood that
[08:50] <noteventime> psotnic maybe
[08:50] <noteventime> try psotnic in the konsole
[08:50] <JUDGE> so if su means super user what does pi mean?
[08:50] <JUDGE> er pico
[08:51] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ psotnic
[08:51] <samoura> bash: psotnic: command not found
[08:51] <samoura> Ohh arg
[08:51] <noteventime> ok
[08:51] <samoura> sry i am not mad at you
[08:51] <Mrono> lol
[08:51] <noteventime> JUDGE: Where do you se that?
[08:52] <noteventime> samoura: hehe, dont worry
[08:52] <Mrono> pico is an editor
[08:52] <noteventime> ok
[08:52] <noteventime> like nano ;)
[08:52] <JUDGE> ok.. pico is an editor and nano is a different editor? didnt know that
[08:52] <noteventime> samoura: Can you give me the page again?
[08:52] <Mrono> they look the same
[08:52] <JUDGE> so new at this .. it seriously hurts
[08:52] <Snake__> lol
[08:52] <Mrono> join the club
[08:53] <noteventime> lol, pico is nano
[08:53] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$  psotnic
[08:53] <samoura> bash: psotnic: command not found
[08:53] <JUDGE> sorry to inflict my complete ignorance on you all =)
[08:53] <Snake__> JUDGE: we've had worse
[08:53] <noteventime> samoura: What was the webpage of the bot?
[08:53] <Snake__> !lol
[08:53] <ubotu> Snake__: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:53] <Snake__> right there
[08:54] <samoura> wait
[08:54] <samoura> http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/
[08:54] <Snake__> oh
[08:55] <noteventime> samoura: try sudo locate -u & locate psotnic
[08:56] <samoura> : ? sudo locate -u & locate psotnic
[08:56] <noteventime> yes
[08:57] <noteventime> could take a minute before it finishes
[08:57] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo locate -u & locate psotnic
[08:57] <samoura> [1]  11930
[08:57] <noteventime> does it output [1]  11930?
[08:57] <samoura> yess
[08:58] <samoura> what than?
[08:58] <noteventime> hmm...
[08:58] <noteventime> It ouldtn output that
[08:58] <noteventime> try running sudo locate -u
[08:58] <noteventime> without the other stuff
[08:59] <samoura> i have to wait
[08:59] <noteventime> yes
[08:59] <noteventime> a minute or two
[08:59] <samoura> okei finshed
[09:00] <samoura> but it doesn show the fails
[09:00] <noteventime> ?
[09:00] <samoura> it doesnt show the output
[09:00] <noteventime> o
[09:00] <noteventime> good
[09:01] <samoura> good?
[09:01] <noteventime> now: locate psotnic
[09:01] <samoura> :(
[09:01] <noteventime> locate searches your hd
[09:01] <samoura> okei not it shows the out put
[09:01] <noteventime> locate -u makes an index of all your files
[09:01] <samoura> ;P
[09:01] <noteventime> can you pastebin the output
[09:02] <noteventime> !pastebin
[09:02] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[09:02] <samoura> okei i will read ;S
[09:03] <noteventime> you paste your output and send me the page so i can read
[09:03] <samoura> okei what is it noteventime
[09:03] <noteventime> that wway we dont flood the chat
[09:04] <samoura> okei
[09:04] <samoura> how do i paste?
[09:04] <noteventime> paste all the output from locate on that site
[09:04] <noteventime> rightclick -> paste
[09:04] <samoura> :P coppy and paste :P
[09:04] <samoura> right?
[09:04] <noteventime> yes
[09:04] <noteventime> :)
[09:05] <samoura> okei maybe is best to open a new konsole
[09:05] <samoura> i have writed many stupid things
[09:06] <noteventime> haha, :) don't we all
[09:06] <noteventime> !console
[09:06] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[09:06] <noteventime> !terminal
[09:07] <noteventime> !konsole
[09:07] <ubotu> noteventime: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:07] <noteventime> Hows it going samoura?
[09:08] <noteventime> hejsan
[09:08] <samoura> okei i have send it
[09:09] <noteventime> nice, give me the URL
[09:09] <noteventime> what is the URL?
[09:09] <samoura> url of what?
[09:09] <samoura> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9261?
[09:10] <samoura> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9261         ?
[09:10] <noteventime> yes
[09:10] <noteventime>  /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin/psotnic
[09:10] <noteventime> is the only binary
[09:10] <samoura> what?
[09:11] <samoura> i pasted all
[09:11] <noteventime> try sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin/psotnic /usr/bin/
[09:11] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin/psotnic /usr/bin/ nothing shows up
[09:11] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/bin/psotnic /usr/bin/
[09:11] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$
[09:12] <noteventime> nothing is supposed to show up
[09:12] <noteventime> but now you can run psotnic
[09:12] <samoura> nothing
[09:12] <samoura> amoura@dhcppc0:~$ psotnic
[09:12] <samoura> Syntax: psotnic [-v]  [-p]  [-c decypted config]  [cryped config] 
[09:12] <noteventime> yay!
[09:12] <noteventime> its alive ;)
[09:12] <samoura> okei :D yeah
[09:12] <samoura> :P
[09:12] <samoura> Lol
[09:13] <nedschnittt> hey room
[09:13] <noteventime> now you should be able to use the guide on the website
[09:13] <noteventime> 'ello
[09:13] <samoura> how do i start this?
[09:13] <noteventime> samoura: Because I have no idea how to cinfigure this bot
[09:13] <samoura> you don have to
[09:14] <noteventime> I think there was a tutorial on the website
[09:14] <samoura> okei
[09:14] <nedschnittt> If I needed help with figuring out a problem with installing kubuntu, would this be the place to be or is there another?
[09:14] <noteventime> this would be the place ;)
[09:14] <nedschnittt> sweet
[09:15] <noteventime> #ubuntu is more alive but you probably cant get much KDE help there
[09:15] <nedschnittt> okay
[09:15] <nedschnittt> it isn't so much kde as it is ubuntu
[09:15] <noteventime> hehe
[09:15] <noteventime> I'll do my best to help
[09:16] <nedschnittt> while installing, the program hangs while trying to install "libgstreamer0.8-0"
[09:17] <noteventime> does apt-get hang or adept?
[09:17] <nedschnittt> it just sits there with this error message: Fontconfig error: cannot load default config file
[09:17] <noteventime> ok
[09:17] <noteventime> :/
[09:17] <noteventime> !fontconfig
[09:17] <ubotu> noteventime: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:19] <noteventime> nedschnittt: I'm sorry, you'l have to try the #ubuntu channel
[09:19] <nedschnittt> okay
[09:19] <nedschnittt> thanks
[09:19] <noteventime> that as much a KDE problem as a Gnome
[09:20] <noteventime> :) Sorry for not being able to help
[09:20] <nedschnittt> yeah
[09:20] <nedschnittt> it's all good
[09:20] <nedschnittt> I'm glad you too k the time out to help
[09:20] <noteventime> np
[09:21] <nedschnittt> I'll see what I can find...thanks again
[09:21] <nedschnittt> bye
[09:21] <volkan> hi everyone
[09:21] <volkan> is there any way to run spe in kubuntu?
[09:21] <noteventime> spe?
[09:21] <noteventime> !spe
[09:22] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[09:22] <volkan> stani's python editor
[09:22] <noteventime> ahhh
[09:22] <noteventime> I've never tried
[09:22] <noteventime> il make a try
[09:22] <noteventime> but i recommend kdevelop
[09:23] <volkan> kdevelop doesn't have code completing for python
[09:23] <noteventime> ok
[09:24] <noteventime> you can install rpms using alien
[09:24] <noteventime> or compile from source
[09:24] <noteventime> !rpm
[09:24] <ubotu> I guess rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[09:25] <noteventime> !alien
[09:25] <ubotu> well, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[09:25] <noteventime> that should help you
[09:27] <Mrono> hmm
[09:28] <Mrono> anyone know how to install moddin splash screens
[09:28] <noteventime> yes
[09:28] <Mrono> how
[09:28] <noteventime> I downloaded the source and compilled but is exists in adept repos
[09:28] <Mrono> no no
[09:29] <Mrono> I already installed the program
[09:29] <noteventime> Aha
[09:29] <Mrono> but I got another splash screen
[09:29] <noteventime> the same way you install others
[09:29] <Mrono> how do I install that one
[09:29] <noteventime> the same way you install normal
[09:29] <Mrono> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34138
[09:29] <Mrono> doesn't see it
[09:30] <noteventime> Do you know how to install non-moodin themes
[09:30] <noteventime> !kdm
[09:30] <ubotu> noteventime: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:30] <Mrono> !KDM
[09:30] <ubotu> Mrono: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:30] <noteventime> Wait il try to install it
[09:31] <Mrono> ok
[09:31] <Mrono> unless
[09:31] <noteventime> kitsch: www.piratbyran.org ??
[09:32] <kitsch> noteventime: yea :)
[09:32] <noteventime> haha, hejsan
[09:32] <Mrono> hmm
[09:34] <noteventime> kitsch: jag kan inte PMa, jag r inte reggad
[09:37] <kaliwanagan> hi there. is there anyway to do a network install of kubuntu?
[09:38] <noteventime> mrono: im sorry but i cant find where i install nre splash themes in kde 3.5.1
[09:38] <Mrono> it's in kcontrol &
[09:38] <Mrono> just how much different is 3.5 from 3.4.3
[09:38] <flamingxmonkey> hey Mrono, I'm online, if you're still looking for help... sorry I'm later than expected, but I ran into some delays
[09:39] <Mrono> np
[09:40] <Mrono> hmmmmm
[09:40] <Mrono> so what's so different
[09:41] <Mrono> in 3.5.1
[09:41] <noteventime> I cant find the splashscreen menu :S
[09:41] <flamingxmonkey> um... overall some stuff has been tidied up, e.g. with the system settings, etc.
[09:41] <flamingxmonkey> some new options for things like the kicker taskbar appearance
[09:41] <noteventime> now
[09:42] <noteventime> i found it
[09:42] <Mrono> hmm
[09:42] <Mrono> how do I upgrade
[09:42] <noteventime> to 3.5?
[09:42] <Mrono> yeah
[09:42] <flamingxmonkey> integration of transparency and shadows into the window settings, though that may have been in 3.4.3, if I'm mistaken
[09:42] <Mrono> it's here
[09:42] <Mrono> but it doesn't work
[09:42] <flamingxmonkey> well, as far as I know, you still need the composite extension running in your xorg.conf
[09:43] <flamingxmonkey> and it's fairly slow anyways, though it does look cool
[09:43] <Mrono> DRI
[09:43] <flamingxmonkey> depends on your video card
[09:43] <flamingxmonkey> yeah
[09:43] <Mrono> so how do I upgrade
[09:43] <flamingxmonkey> I'm on a laptop, so I'm only running a radeon 7500
[09:44] <Mrono> 9000 here
[09:44] <Mrono> laptop as well
[09:44] <noteventime> the moodin splash installs without any problems :)
[09:44] <Mrono> how
[09:44] <Mrono> wait
[09:44] <noteventime> Lika any other splash
[09:44] <Mrono> the one I sent
[09:44] <Mrono> or the program
[09:44] <noteventime> yes
[09:44] <flamingxmonkey> well, you basically need to add the kde 3.5.1 repositories to your apt list, and then do a dist upgrade
[09:45] <volkan> !knemo
[09:45] <ubotu> volkan: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:45] <Mrono> hmm
[09:45] <Mrono> ok
[09:45] <noteventime> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main
[09:45] <flamingxmonkey> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[09:45] <Mrono> notecentime talk me through it
[09:45] <flamingxmonkey> yeah
[09:45] <volkan> how do I start knemo?
[09:45] <Mrono> installing the splash screen
[09:46] <Mrono> i've tried alot of things and nothing works
[09:46] <noteventime> ok
[09:46] <flamingxmonkey> for moodin?
[09:46] <noteventime> first start kcontrol
[09:46] <Mrono> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34138
[09:46] <flamingxmonkey> yeah, I seem to remember having trouble with that
[09:46] <Mrono> uh huh
[09:46] <flamingxmonkey> ah, that's the one I'm using
[09:46] <Mrono> started
[09:46] <flamingxmonkey> looks good with the bliss kdm theme
[09:46] <noteventime> aper and theme
[09:46] <Mrono> k
[09:47] <noteventime> splash screen
[09:47] <volkan> cool meadow
[09:47] <Mrono> k
[09:47] <noteventime> add
[09:47] <Mrono> k
[09:47] <noteventime> then just select the tar.gx you downloaded
[09:47] <noteventime> gz*
[09:47] <Mrono> oh
[09:47] <Mrono> lmao
[09:47] <Mrono> i'm an idiot
[09:47] <noteventime> np :)
[09:47] <Mrono> I was extracting it
[09:47] <Mrono> thanks
[09:47] <samoura> noteventime common help me please i can anderstand how to start this boot there is a example folder in my folder i can let you have it
[09:47] <noteventime> I made the same misstake a while ago with a gnome theme
[09:48] <noteventime> samoura: sure
[09:48] <noteventime> il take a look at the webpage
[09:49] <samoura> how do i run the program?
[09:49] <samoura> ;S
[09:50] <noteventime> samora, this guide is pretty good: http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php
[09:50] <noteventime> Mrono: Works now?
[09:50] <noteventime> Its to long to explain though
[09:51] <samoura> okei thanks :D
[09:51] <samoura> that is just i needed
[09:51] <_b> !bittorrent
[09:51] <ubotu> hmm... bittorrent is the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[09:55] <samoura> noteventime i dont know where in
[09:55] <samoura> nick   bot's nickname
[09:55] <samoura>   realname  bot's real name
[09:55] <samoura>   nickappend  bunch of characters that will be appended to nick if it is taken (eg. -|`^, this setting is taken in consideration if `altuidnick' is set to 0)
[09:55] <samoura>   myipv4  ip address of the bot (eg. 88.45.56.15, 0.0.0.0 means any address)
[09:55] <kaliwanagan> okay i got something close to what i needed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromKnoppix
[09:55] <kaliwanagan> thanks :)
[09:56] <noteventime> Read a few lines down
[09:56] <samoura> k
[09:56] <noteventime> samoura: The guide begins a few lines down, for some strange reason it begins with a referense
[09:57] <noteventime> ok, il brb
[09:57] <Mrono> wow that's a long list of depentisies
[09:57] <flamingxmonkey> yeah
[09:58] <Mrono> hmm
[09:58] <Mrono> weird
[09:58] <Mrono> i'm trying to put in a different background for a theme
[09:59] <Mrono> but it goes all weird when I do
[09:59] <noteventime> Do you have the same resolution and format as the original theme
[10:00] <Mrono> mostlikely not
[10:00] <Mrono> brb
[10:01] <Mrono> i'll set that up
[10:01] <noteventime> hehe
[10:01] <samoura> noteventime how do i bigger sceen i mean every thing is so litl like i cant see the text how can let it bigger?
[10:01] <samoura> noteventime how do i bigger screen i mean every thing is so litl like i cant see the text how can let it bigger screen ?
[10:02] <samoura> noteventime how do i confuger bigger screen i mean every thing is so litl like i cant see the text how can let it bigger screen ?
[10:03] <Mrono> still
[10:03] <Mrono> i'm trying to put http://www.microsoft.com/nz/windowsxp/images/5833d952e664cda.jpg
[10:03] <Mrono> onto that splash screne
[10:03] <samoura> Nice
[10:03] <samoura> Uhh
[10:04] <Mrono> not working
[10:04] <samoura> ;S
[10:04] <Mrono> it just gives me a weird blue box when I test it
[10:04] <samoura> how can change my splash screne
[10:04] <noteventime> in kcontrol
[10:04] <noteventime> mrono what is the size and format of the original image
[10:05] <Mrono> 1280x1024
[10:05] <Mrono> I resized that image to be 1280x1024
[10:05] <noteventime> samoura: Use kcontrol
[10:05] <noteventime> Mrono: and what format? png ? jpeg?
[10:05] <Mrono> jpg
[10:05] <Mrono> ah ha
[10:05] <noteventime> ok
[10:06] <Mrono> it's because i'm compressing it
[10:06] <Mrono> ok
[10:06] <Mrono> so
[10:06] <noteventime> change the name format and reolution to the same
[10:06] <samoura> kmenu/there is no control in there ;S
[10:06] <Mrono> how do I insert an image into a tar.gz
[10:06] <noteventime> no you have to start it in run
[10:06] <sebastian> hi
[10:06] <noteventime> extract the tar.gz edit and then re-pack
[10:06] <sebastian> how do i set suid for a binarY?
[10:06] <noteventime> hullo
[10:07] <Mrono> I unpackaged the theme
[10:07] <noteventime> chown?
[10:07] <Mrono> removed their background
[10:07] <Mrono> inserted the modified one of mine
[10:07] <Mrono> and repackaged it
[10:07] <noteventime> with the same name?
[10:07] <flamingxmonkey> I feel like it's a chmod option
[10:07] <Mrono> that could also be it
[10:07] <Mrono> brb
[10:07] <samoura> kmenu/there is no control in there ;S
[10:07] <noteventime> samoura: You have to run it from a console or from "run"
[10:08] <samoura> thanks
[10:08] <flamingxmonkey> I believe it's chmod -s filename, sebastian
[10:08] <Mrono> tried it
[10:08] <Mrono> same name
[10:09] <Mrono> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34138
[10:09] <Mrono> that theme
[10:09] <noteventime> ok let me try it out
[10:09] <Mrono> with the afore mentioned background
[10:09] <Mrono> ok
[10:09] <flamingxmonkey> oh, wait, you said suid, nut setuid
[10:09] <flamingxmonkey> err, nm sebastian
[10:10] <Mrono> brb
[10:10] <Mrono> updating my KDE
[10:10] <Mrono> pray for me
[10:10] <Mrono> wow
[10:10] <Mrono> 141mb/s to download
[10:11] <Mrono> thank goodness for cable internet
[10:12] <flamingxmonkey> going to 3.5.1 Mrono?
[10:13] <Mrono> yep
[10:13] <flamingxmonkey> cool :)
[10:13] <Mrono> anything I need to know about
[10:13] <noteventime> Ok
[10:14] <noteventime> Its working for me :)
[10:14] <noteventime> In test anyway
[10:14] <noteventime> Mrono: It works
[10:14] <Mrono> grr
[10:14] <Mrono> send it to me
[10:14] <noteventime> Do you want me to send you the package?
[10:14] <noteventime> sur
[10:14] <noteventime> e
[10:14] <Mrono> yes please
[10:14] <noteventime> email?
[10:15] <noteventime> or something else?
[10:15] <Mrono> hmm
[10:15] <Mrono> yeah
[10:15] <Mrono> email
[10:16] <Mrono> anyone know of a gmail notifier for linux?
[10:16] <noteventime> There is a plugin for super karamba i think
[10:16] <noteventime> and for firefox
[10:17] <noteventime> Ok, the mail is sent now
[10:17] <noteventime> try it out
[10:17] <Mrono> thanks
[10:18] <noteventime> np
[10:18] <Mrono> ooo
[10:18] <Mrono> http://gmail-notify.sourceforge.net/
[10:18] <noteventime> hehe
[10:20] <noteventime> does it woek Mrono?
[10:20] <Mrono> nope
[10:20] <tomas_> hi everyone
[10:20] <tomas_> when i run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable i get
[10:20] <tomas_> Error: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[10:20] <tomas_> are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is
[10:20] <tomas_> installed correctly.
[10:21] <Mrono> woah
[10:21] <tomas_> how do i solve that?
[10:21] <Mrono> I can't use my screen cap program anymore
[10:21] <Mrono> oh duh
[10:21] <Mrono> lol
[10:21] <noteventime> ?
[10:21] <Mrono> i'm upgrading
[10:21] <Mrono> durr
[10:21] <noteventime> Mrono: Doesnt the kdesplash work?
[10:21] <noteventime> tomas_ I think youl have to edit the xorg.conf manually
[10:22] <noteventime> !nvidia
[10:22] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:22] <Mrono> heh
[10:22] <tomas_> i have installed it before noteventime
[10:22] <Mrono> once I finish upgrading i'll send you a screen cap
[10:22] <tomas_> im in dapper
[10:22] <tomas_> thats the thing
[10:23] <Mrono> hmm
[10:23] <Mrono> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libcvsservice0_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libkdeinit_cvsaskpass.so', which is also in package cervisia
[10:23] <Mrono> crap
[10:23] <Mrono> I don't know if it finished
[10:23] <noteventime> tomas_: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8178/README/chapter-03-section-02.html
[10:23] <Mrono> brb
[10:23] <Mrono> restarting X
[10:24] <tomas_> noteventime: isnt ubuntu/kubuntu using xorg?
[10:24] <noteventime> ok
[10:24] <noteventime> yes
[10:24] <tomas_> why do i get complains about xfree86 path then :/
[10:24] <noteventime> The config file looks the same though
[10:24] <tomas_> aha
[10:24] <noteventime> ohh
[10:24] <tomas_> Error: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[10:24] <tomas_> are missing from your system. Please be sure that your xserver package is
[10:24] <tomas_> installed correctly.
[10:25] <noteventime> have you installed the driver from the nvidia webpage?
[10:25] <tomas_> i tried that first
[10:25] <noteventime> ok
[10:25] <tomas_> it compiled
[10:25] <tomas_> but
[10:25] <tomas_> i needed to use an old version :/
[10:25] <tomas_> from march last year
[10:25] <tomas_> or something
[10:25] <tomas_> but
[10:25] <tomas_> when i runned glxgears i got a segmentation fault
[10:25] <noteventime> sudo apt-get install nvisia-glx-legacy i think the driver is called
[10:26] <noteventime> legacy is the old one
[10:26] <tomas_> =?
[10:26] <tomas_> legacy
[10:26] <noteventime> you run like a tnt or gf2 right?
[10:26] <tomas_> im not using an old
[10:26] <tomas_> no
[10:26] <noteventime> ok
[10:26] <tomas_> fx 5900 ;)
[10:26] <noteventime> hehe
[10:26] <tomas_> i may have solved it by myself
[10:26] <tomas_> brb
[10:26] <noteventime> else get the driver from adept ;)
[10:28] <noteventime> brb
[10:29] <Mrono> hmm
[10:29] <Mrono> interestering
[10:36] <noteventime> Im back
[10:36] <Mrono> ok
[10:37] <noteventime> Mrono: How are things working out for you :)
[10:37] <Mrono> 3 broken packages
[10:37] <Mrono> but otherwise ok
[10:37] <Mrono> cervisia
[10:37] <Mrono> gmail-notify
[10:37] <Mrono> which to fix would remove my 3.5
[10:37] <Mrono> and kdevelop3-plugins
[10:38] <noteventime> ok
[10:38] <Mrono> looks like I can fix em
[10:38] <ryanakca> is there a good gui for apt other than adept/synaptic/aptitude
[10:38] <noteventime> Yes
[10:38] <noteventime> kpackage
[10:38] <Mrono> hmm
[10:38] <Mrono> kpackage
[10:38] <Mrono> i'll check it out
[10:39] <noteventime> I hate it :D
[10:39] <Mrono> lol
[10:39] <noteventime> Its pretty nice for browsing though
[10:40] <noteventime> If you dont know what you want but want something to do :P
[10:40] <Mrono> lol
[10:40] <Mrono> yeah
[10:40] <noteventime> I still think adept is by far the best
[10:41] <noteventime> Although synaptic is better integrated with gnome
[10:41] <tomas_> synaptic is the best IMO
[10:41] <Mrono> I use synaptic
[10:41] <noteventime> ok
[10:41] <tomas_> noteventime: can you tell me how to apply patches?
[10:41] <noteventime> sure
[10:41] <tomas_> noteventime: i got a patch that should fix it (according to some fellow dapper users)
[10:42] <noteventime> Never done it myself though, but i think i know how
[10:42] <noteventime> A patch for what?
[10:42] <tomas_> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/nvidia-glx/+bug/29234
[10:42] <noteventime> ok
[10:42] <tomas_> "This error occured on my machine as well. I edited the paths within nvidia-glx-config, and this fixed. The attached patch details the necessary changes."
[10:43] <NRG88> how can i add my user to group disk?
[10:43] <noteventime> ok
[10:43] <noteventime> You have to patch the script file
[10:43] <tomas_> noteventime: yeah but how
[10:43] <noteventime> First you have to find the script
[10:43] <tomas_> noteventime: mokey
[10:44] <samoura> First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in how do i do this?
[10:44] <samoura> what is dir?
[10:44] <noteventime> locate nvidia-glx-config
[10:44] <noteventime> dir is short for directory
[10:44] <samoura> where psotinic binary is?
[10:44] <noteventime> yes
[10:44] <samoura> wher is this
[10:45] <tomas_> noteventime: i know dir ;)
[10:45] <noteventime> in /usr/bin/
[10:45] <tomas_> noteventime: i have installed w32codecs, plugins and everything ;)
[10:45] <noteventime> ?
[10:45] <tomas_> noteventime: sorry i read wrong :$
[10:45] <noteventime> o
[10:45] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:45] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:45] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:45] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:45] <tomas_> noteventime: its on /usr/sbin
[10:45] <noteventime> opps
[10:45] <tomas_> in
[10:46] <noteventime> ok
[10:46] <samoura> where psotinic binary is?
[10:46] <tomas_> but where is the source :/
[10:46] <samoura>  /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7 ?
[10:46] <noteventime> samoura: its in /usr/bin
[10:46] <noteventime> we moved it there
[10:46] <tomas_> stupid me :p
[10:46] <noteventime> tomas_: Ok, now whe have to apply the patch to /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config
[10:46] <tomas_> its good to have the source installed :$
[10:46] <Mrono> ok
[10:47] <Mrono> say I wanted to mount a winxp ntfs
[10:47] <Mrono> it's in /dev/hda1
[10:47] <Mrono> and I wanted it at /mnt/winxp
[10:47] <Mrono> whats the command
[10:47] <noteventime> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp -tntfs
[10:47] <noteventime> !ntfs
[10:47] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:47] <tomas_> oki noteventime :)
[10:47] <tomas_> time to patch :)
[10:48] <noteventime> Hmm.. lts just try tp find the command
[10:48] <tomas_> diff?
[10:48] <noteventime> yes
[10:48] <tomas_> :)
[10:48] <noteventime> I think its the one :P
[10:48] <noteventime> you know this better than me :D
[10:49] <tomas_> noteventime: not really :P
[10:49] <noteventime> but isnt diff for making patches?
[10:49] <noteventime> maybe not
[10:49] <tomas_> noteventime: it is :)
[10:49] <tomas_> noteventime: i read it somewhere i guess :P
[10:49] <Mrono> hmm
[10:49] <noteventime> haha
[10:49] <samoura> i have done the copy of this conf.hud fail but i cant paste it there /usr/bin why?
[10:49] <Mrono> I need to play .wav
[10:49] <tomas_> noteventime: thanks :)
[10:49] <noteventime> patch
[10:49] <tomas_> patch?
[10:49] <samoura> patch?
[10:49] <noteventime> is the command i think :p
[10:49] <tomas_> :P
[10:49] <tomas_> right :P
[10:50] <samoura> i have done the copy of this conf.hud fail but i cant paste it there /usr/bin why?
[10:50] <tomas_> patch source  dest?
[10:50] <noteventime> i think dest source
[10:50] <noteventime> but im not sure
[10:50] <tomas_> oki
[10:50] <tomas_> we will see :P
[10:50] <noteventime> try patch --help
[10:50] <noteventime> samoura: you need to copy as rot
[10:50] <noteventime> root*
[10:51] <samoura> okei here we go agein ;(
[10:51] <samoura> but how?
[10:51] <noteventime> sudo cp /PATH_TO_CONFIG /usr/bin
[10:51] <jasper> i need some help with wireless (i've read all the howto's), almost got it but not quite
[10:51] <noteventime> jasper: Are you using WPA?
[10:51] <jean> NON
[10:52] <jean> GOOD
[10:52] <noteventime> ?
[10:52] <jasper> no
[10:52] <jean> JE PARLE FRANCAIS
[10:52] <tomas_> no i will restart :D
[10:52] <noteventime> ok, wep?
[10:52] <jean> atend
[10:52] <samoura> sudo cp /conf.hub  /usr/bin?
[10:52] <noteventime> no
[10:52] <jasper> i turned off my network key to get it setup
[10:52] <noteventime> I dont speak frensh
[10:52] <samoura> LOL
[10:53] <samoura> :D
[10:53] <noteventime> samoura: where is the conf.hub located?
[10:53] <samoura> ups not funny
[10:53] <samoura> it is /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples
[10:53] <noteventime> jasper, can you pastebin the output from iwconfig
[10:54] <noteventime> sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/config.hub /usr/bin/
[10:54] <jasper> eth0      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"jasper"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[10:54] <jasper>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s
[10:54] <jasper>           Tx-Power=off
[10:54] <samoura>  it is there /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub
[10:54] <jasper>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[10:54] <noteventime> !pastebin
[10:54] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:54] <jasper> oops, sorry about that
[10:54] <noteventime> np
[10:54] <noteventime> :)
[10:55] <noteventime> Are you going to use wpa?
[10:55] <jean> je ve que tu french
[10:55] <jean> french
[10:55] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo cp /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/config.hub /usr/bin/
[10:55] <samoura> cp: cannot stat `/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/config.hub': No such file or directory
[10:55] <robotgeek> !fr
[10:55] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:55] <jasper> at this point, i just want it to work....it's been a week now
[10:56] <jasper> i can live without wpa or wep
[10:56] <tomas_> :@
[10:56] <ryanakca> who do I talk to for spelling mistakes in ubotu?
[10:56] <tomas_> SEGMENTATION FAULT
[10:56] <noteventime> you should use WPA, because i know how to configure that :P
[10:56] <jean> jeannicolas.leroy@free.fr
[10:56] <jasper> ok then, whatever it takes
[10:56] <tomas_> that will be tomorrows problem :P
[10:56] <tomas_> thank you for everything noteventime :)
[10:56] <jasper> like i said....i'm just frustrated with it
[10:56] <samoura> tomas maybe i vill help you and noteeventime helps me
[10:56] <jean> allo...
[10:56] <robotgeek> ryanakca: where is the error?
[10:56] <noteventime> tomas_: np
[10:57] <jean> atend
[10:57] <tomas_> its allright samoura, its soon bedtime and there are other things i can do for now :)
[10:57] <jean> moi jean kde
[10:57] <tomas_> thanks anyway
[10:57] <tomas_> do yourself a favour and buy ps3 when it comes out :)
[10:57] <noteventime> hehe, way to much money :P
[10:57] <jean> 9]  <noteventime> maybe not[22:49]  <tomas_> noteventime: it is :)[22:49]  <tomas_> noteventime: i read it somewhere i guess :P[22:49]  <Mrono> hmm[22:49]  <noteventime> haha[22:49]  <samoura> i have done the copy of this conf.hud fail but i cant paste it there /usr/bin why?[22:49]  <Mrono> I need to play .wav[22:49]  <tomas_> noteventime: thanks :)[22:49]  <noteventime> patch[22:49]  <tomas_> patch?[22:49]  <samoura> patch?[22:49]  <noteventime> is the command i think :p
[10:57] <jean> ]  <tomas_> right :P[22:50]  <samoura> i have done the copy of this conf.hud fail but i cant paste it there /usr/bin why?[22:50]  <tomas_> patch source  dest?[22:50]  <noteventime> i think dest source[22:50]  --> jasper a rejoint le canal. (n=jasper@modemcable209.99-81-70.mc.videotron.ca)[22:50]  <noteventime> but im not sure[22:50]  <tomas_> oki[22:50]  <tomas_> we will see :P[22:50]  <noteventime> try patch --help[22:50]  <noteventime> samoura: you need to copy as rot
[10:57] <tomas_> how much do you think it will cost?
[10:58] <noteventime> about 500$
[10:58] <tomas_> yeah
[10:58] <tomas_> sound reasonable
[10:58] <noteventime> maybe 600$
[10:58] <tomas_> none knows
[10:58] <tomas_> but it will be worth it :P
[10:58] <noteventime> Revolution will cost 150$ :D
[10:58] <tomas_> someday running ubuntu on it :P
[10:58] <samoura> 600 it is i am reach i vill bay this for a 10023$
[10:58] <tomas_> and revolution is a snail
[10:58] <jasper> noteventime: it's odd though, when i try to start it up it looks like its going to work, but then says "network down" and fails
[10:58] <kwwii> hi
[10:58] <tomas_> compared to ps3
[10:58] <tomas_> anyway
[10:58] <noteventime> hmmm
[10:58] <tomas_> goodnight
[10:58] <tomas_> take care
[10:59] <tomas_> bye
[10:59] <noteventime> Bye
[10:59] <samoura> noteventime can you now help me?
[10:59] <noteventime> sure
[10:59] <noteventime> but i need to help jasper too
[10:59] <samoura> cp: cannot stat `/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/config.hub': No such file or directory
[10:59] <kwwii> can anyone point me to a good source of information about setting up a development environment?
[10:59] <samoura> :( the party is on :(
[10:59] <noteventime> which development nvirement
[11:00] <ryanakca> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais  should be  Vas  #ubuntu-fr out #kubuntu.fr pour aide et discussion en franais
[11:00] <noteventime> samoura lets open a new channel
[11:00] <samoura> okei cool
[11:00] <noteventime> join #samoura
[11:00] <kwwii> I simply want to build code, gcc
[11:00] <noteventime> KDevelop?
[11:00] <kwwii> hehe
[11:00] <noteventime> is nice
[11:00] <kwwii> I mean the path and other system variables
[11:00] <ryanakca> A: "Va" becomes "Vas", and theres a pile of accent and other embelishemend errors
[11:01] <kwwii> I installed make, gcc, etc...
[11:01] <noteventime> You dont have to
[11:01] <noteventime> It should work
[11:01] <robotgeek> !fr
[11:01] <ubotu> methinks fr is Vas `a #ubuntu-fr out #kubuntu.fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:01] <noteventime> jasper join #jasper
[11:01] <jasper> k
[11:01] <kwwii> yeah, once I exported variables like AUTOCONF, AUTOMAKE, etc.
[11:01] <robotgeek> ryanakca: is that correct?
[11:02] <kwwii> then it did not find gcc
[11:02] <kwwii> :-)
[11:02] <wk2001> hello! can some one help me? i want to reinstall grub from live cd - can you say me how to do that?
[11:02] <noteventime> It should work by itself
[11:02] <kwwii> hrm
[11:02] <kwwii> ok, thanks
[11:02] <robotgeek> !grub
[11:02] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:02] <ryanakca> Accent should be on a (like this: , not like this: `a) ,and its franais, not francais
[11:03] <robotgeek> ryanakca: can i /msg you?
[11:03] <ryanakca> yes
[11:03] <wk2001> ubotu did you ment me?
[11:03] <ubotu> wk2001: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:03] <ryanakca> dont bother asking... I started irc where people dont bother asking...
[11:03] <Blissex> wk2001: 'man grub-install'
[11:04] <_b> kubu whants orginal cd when installing bittornado, i dont whant that ! can i modify apt-scources to aviod this somehow ?
[11:04] <Mrono> lmao
[11:05] <Mrono> my arm was hurting and I couldn't figure out how I hit it
[11:05] <Mrono> then I reached for my keyboard and did it again
[11:05] <Mrono> smacked it on the corner of my desk
[11:05] <Mrono> !wifi
[11:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:05] <kwwii> hehe, I just found the dependency package for gcc :-) thanks anyway
[11:06] <kwwii> half an hour of google down the drain
[11:06] <Mrono> bash: ispci: command not found
[11:06] <Mrono> what do I need to dlk
[11:06] <Mrono> dl*
[11:07] <noteventime> its lsci
[11:07] <noteventime> its lspci
[11:07] <noteventime> nit ispc
[11:07] <noteventime> i
[11:07] <noteventime> its an L not an i
[11:08] <Mrono> ah
[11:08] <Mrono> bash: ispci: command not found
[11:08] <Mrono> lol
[11:08] <Mrono> I read it wrong
[11:09] <Mrono> anyone know what the default sound is for incoming mail in windows
[11:09] <Mrono> if I could play.wav I could find it
[11:09] <noteventime> mplayer play.wav
[11:10] <Mrono> I have to use mplayer for all my videos
[11:10] <Mrono> nothing else works
[11:11] <ubuntu> alguem portugues????
[11:11] <ubuntu> eu estou num emulador para mac
[11:11] <noteventime> I dont think there is a mac emulator
[11:11] <noteventime> because mac uses another platform
[11:11] <noteventime> other hardware
[11:12] <mehaga> can anyone help me with PCMCIA network card configuration, please?
[11:13] <desmond> the generic drivers arent working properly for my asus tv card
[11:15] <danimo_> did anyone get kat to work without causing a segfault in kded (dapper)
[11:15] <danimo_> ?
[11:18] <mehaga> can anyone help me with PCMCIA network card configuration, please?
[11:19] <noteventime> Sorry, I don't know how to use PCMCIA
[11:19] <Mrono> brb
[11:19] <Mrono> restarting
[11:19] <robotgeek> mehaga: have you taken a look at this?
[11:19] <robotgeek> mehaga, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:19] <noteventime> !pcmcia
[11:19] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[11:20] <mehaga> robotbeek: it's not Wifi in question, it's regular lan
[11:20] <angasule> how can I view image thumbnails in konqueror, without getting the retarded-mode selection?
[11:20] <harritj> mehaga how much is working atm? if the card recognized?
[11:20] <harritj> s/if/is
[11:20] <mehaga> sorry what is 'atm'?
[11:21] <harritj> at the moment
[11:21] <mehaga> harritj: well it's hard to say
[11:21] <mehaga> harritj: I can't get my DHCP working
[11:22] <mehaga> harritj: card looks like recognized, but it's acting funny
[11:23] <harritj> looks recognized as modules loaded for it?
[11:23] <mehaga> harritj: modules are loaded
[11:24] <harritj> what modules & what card?
[11:24] <mehaga> harritj: moduls: 3c574_cs , card: 3com 3CCFEM556B
[11:25] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:25] <mehaga> harritj: with lshw I get Ethernet interface
[11:25] <linuxboyfriend>  i was trying to connect to internet but kppp gives this error: http://pastebin.com/570935
[11:25] <mehaga> harritj: but there is no name for my card
[11:25] <harritj> no logical name you mean?
[11:26] <harritj> in lshw output?
[11:26] <mehaga> harritj: I have logical name, but no informations for card, like vednor, real name
[11:26] <mehaga> harritj: yes in lshw output
[11:27] <harritj> kk logical name is verified?
[11:27] <mehaga> harritj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135797
[11:27] <mehaga> harritj: i described here problem in more details..
[11:27] <harritj> reading.. sec =)
[11:27] <mehaga> harritj: ok,thx
[11:29] <harritj> emm in your interfaces file you have it set to eth not eth0 ..
[11:29] <mehaga> harritj: just sec, to check..
[11:29] <harritj> in the iface line..
[11:30] <mehaga> harritj: nop, in file is OK, just a typing error
[11:30] <mehaga> sorry...
[11:31] <mehaga> harritj: any idea?
[11:32] <harritj> what does /var/log/daemon.log tell ya? As in dhclient logging
[11:32] <Snoopy010481> Mehaga - you have to identify a network-card?
[11:32] <mehaga> harritj: dhcpient says ther is no DHCPOFFER
[11:33] <mehaga> Snoopy010481: how do you meen?
[11:33] <Snoopy010481> What is your problem?
[11:33] <mehaga> Snoopy010481: ckeck this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135797
[11:33] <mehaga> i described is there
[11:33] <mehaga> * it there..
[11:34] <noteventime> !pastebin
[11:34] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[11:35] <Snoopy010481> Okay, the problem is that the card will not get any ip-address from dhcp running in network?
[11:36] <mehaga> but i have another PC working perfectly fine...
[11:36] <mehaga> also Ubuntu
[11:36] <Snoopy010481> Did you check the dhcp-logs?
[11:36] <mehaga> with my DHCP server
[11:37] <mehaga> how can I check dhcp-logs, do you meen on server or client?
[11:37] <Snoopy010481> I mean the server.
[11:37] <Snoopy010481> I don't know what kind of dhcp you're running.
[11:37] <mehaga> well i'not sure how to do that, it's WinXp machine..
[11:38] <Snoopy010481> XP is doing dhcp?
[11:38] <harritj> :X
[11:38] <mehaga> yeah--
[11:38] <Snoopy010481> With Jana-Server?
[11:38] <mehaga> i'm not sure..
[11:38] <mehaga> i just setup
[11:38] <mehaga> windows network..
[11:38] <Snoopy010481> XP itselfs cannot provide dhcp-services in default configuration.
[11:39] <mehaga> i setup on XP IP to be automaticly...
[11:39] <Snoopy010481> The automatic assignment of IPs in a microsoft network is not a dhcp!
[11:39] <mehaga> and my other computers..
[11:39] <mehaga> ok..
[11:39] <mehaga> but my other computers are fine with it..
[11:39] <mehaga> i meen
[11:39] <mehaga> i have another ubuntu machine
[11:39] <Snoopy010481> Are you sure that they have dynamic IP and no static one?
[11:40] <mehaga> they are dynamic 100%
[11:40] <Snoopy010481> Supsicious...
[11:40] <mehaga> my another machine has DHCP
[11:40] <Snoopy010481> Do you use a router?
[11:40] <mehaga> using ubuntu, ofcourse?
[11:41] <mehaga> no, cable modem..
[11:41] <mehaga> but he is connected to winXP
[11:41] <mehaga> an from there I share connection..
[11:41] <Snoopy010481> Can you connect this PC with XP if you set a static IP?
[11:42] <mehaga> a did not try..
[11:42] <Snoopy010481> You know IP has to be in same subnet.
[11:42] <Snoopy010481> Then you should try, I think.
[11:42] <mehaga> yes..
[11:42] <Snoopy010481> I guess the dhcp is the problem.
[11:42] <mehaga> ok..
[11:42] <mehaga> ok I will try, but I don't anderstand it...
[11:43] <mehaga> all other
[11:43] <Snoopy010481> If you don't have a dhcp it is just luck if it runs or not
[11:43] <mehaga> computers work fine..
[11:43] <Snoopy010481> Sorry, my english is terrible... :-)
[11:43] <mehaga> ok.. no problem..
[11:44] <mehaga> im going to try static IP-s
[11:44] <Snoopy010481> fine
[11:46] <Perversus> Buenas noches
[11:46] <Perversus> alguien en el canal?
[11:47] <Perversus> Una pregunta tengo un PIV 3.0 Hyper treaning ,lo tnego como smp "Es correcto"?
[11:48] <Snoopy010481> mehaga: does it work?
[11:48] <zephryos> Hobbsee you there?
[11:49] <Hobbsee> zephryos: for a min, yeah - i'm about to reboot and have serious words with dapper's new kernel and ndiswrapper
[11:49] <zephryos> >.< I needed some help finding a driver.
[11:49] <zephryos> one i found didnt work for my card
[11:50] <Hobbsee> did you check if it was listed in !wireless
[11:50] <zephryos> ?
[11:50] <zephryos> where?
[11:50] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[11:50] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:51] <Hobbsee> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ <-- there as well
[11:53] <zephryos> hmm
[12:00] <noteventime> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)