=== mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-153-81.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] doko: ping? do you know something about valgrind and can confirm that http://slomosnail.de/~slomo/temp/valgrind_3.1.0-2.1ubuntu1.debdiff is the correct solution for bug 2958? [12:16] malone bug 2958 in valgrind "valgrind is generating warnings on /lib/ld-2.3.5.so" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/2958 [12:17] slomo: can look at it, but not before the weekend [12:18] doko: ok, thanks... just ping me when you have some time... shouldn't take too long :) === PounK [n=jkhc@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:27] hello [12:27] does dapper will have ubuntu express? === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] PounK, yes [12:31] but why it is in Deferred BreezyGoals ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake ) [12:31] does this raise any concerns http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2006-02-22/debian-versioning-of-mozilla-libraries-harmful [12:31] +? [12:31] oh, breezy goal lol [12:32] PounK, that is old [12:32] is it in the flight cd 4? [12:33] yes [12:33] good === AlinuxOS [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-25-250.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] and does kubuntu live contain ubuntu express? [12:36] PounK, they are working on a kubuntu-express [12:37] and it will be avalaible for dapper / it avalaible on flight 4 ? [12:39] ready for dapper, not ready for flight 4, afaik [12:39] ok, thank [12:40] np [01:10] dapper install, grub step, error. should I be able to run grub from the VT2 shell? cuz I can't. === yosch [n=yosch@lns-bzn-55-82-255-182-222.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:16] good night === theine [n=theine@c202078.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nix4me [n=nix4me@49.104.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul_ [n=ompaul@213-202-180-115.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ohoel [n=eruin@unaffiliated/eruin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.10.74.179.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AlinuxOS [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-25-250.cust.tele2.it] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:06] ( http://appelsinjuice.org/firefox-huge-error.png ) Malone next stop? [02:07] ohoel: no, quit firefox and restart [02:07] ohoel: you probably upgraded it underneath a running session [02:08] persistent after a firefox restart and a reboot [02:09] ah, nailed it to the nb/no language pack === Amaranth_ [n=travis@24-116-61-125.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:13] torkel: thanks === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-136-53.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-136-53.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel === huahua [n=hua@221.172.49.112] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nekohayo [n=nekohayo@ip216-239-83-191.vif.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === huahua [n=hua@221.172.49.112] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pietrus [n=pietrus@c92583d3.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:37] hello. [03:37] Anyone familiar with ACX100/110 driver? === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:38] jouston: if you are having issue with it, please test the latest dapper and file a bug [03:39] Burglaptop: I don't think it is a bug. I also already installed Feb 17 dapper [03:39] jouston: if it doesn't work ootb, it is a bug [03:39] Burglaptop: BTW, your promptly reply surprice me. XD [03:39] I try [03:40] Burglaptop: I suppose everybody is sleeping in another side of earth. XD [03:40] jouston: yes [03:40] Burglaptop: I just want to explain this issue and ask it is a bug or not. [03:41] ACX driver need proper firmware to drive the cards. [03:41] ok [03:42] Unfortunately, my card isn't supported by default firmware in dapper. [03:42] then file a bug [03:42] More unluckly, we don't have any firmware compatible with ACX driver on PCi's website. [03:43] Burglaptop: But. NDISwrapper can support this card. [03:43] jouston: if it doesn't work out of teh box, it is a bug [03:44] How can I tell a good story for this bug? I'm wondering. [03:44] say it doesn't work and relate all information you have about it === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-136-53.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:49] Burglaptop: thanks. [03:49] jouston: np === g14 [n=SEJeff@12-211-125-247.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:52] And I have another issue. There is no "jdmouse" for ubuntu [03:52] jouston: jdmouse? [03:52] This is essential for a Sony vaio. [03:53] http://jr0bak.homelinux.net/~imai/linux/jogdial.html [03:53] Sorry it is a Japenese site. [03:53] hardware that doesn't work out of the box is a bug, file it as such [03:53] Basically, it will ran as a daemon to handle Fn KEY event for a Vaio [03:53] not saying it will be dealt with, but at least we know it is there [03:54] Burglaptop: OK. I'll file two bugs. [03:54] Burglaptop: But where can I file? I'm not familiar with Ubuntu development process. === jouston making a lot of trouble. :-~ [03:55] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug [03:56] Burglaptop: Great thanks. [03:58] np === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-136-53.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === stu1 [n=stub@ppp-58.10.73.80.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tulga [n=tulga@202.179.3.210] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:47] hi all! I want install xgl on kubuntu dapper 4. please recommend me good howto [04:47] Tulga: please redirect to #kubuntu === Tulga [n=tulga@202.179.3.210] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === zakame [n=zak@210.213.69.93] has joined #ubuntu-devel === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jlj [n=agp@cpe-204-210-33-233.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ozamosi- [n=nozamosi@h139n4c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Se7h [n=MUAHAHAH@81.193.85.34] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:05] mjg59 u available? [05:05] Se7h: it is 6am where he is [05:06] :o u don't say [05:06] thats ok, i'll 'try again later' [05:06] he has been idle for 7+ hours [05:06] :) [05:06] robitaille i didn't check hes idle [05:07] more than likely asleep, being in the UK [05:08] uk? [05:08] im confused [05:08] its not 6am in uk [05:08] sorry, 4am, my math was off [05:09] same timezone here ;) [05:09] So I must now get Xgl working [05:09] How do our packages fare? === ozamosi- is now known as ozamosi [05:10] i'll expose the annoying thing here. My external usb hd is getting into 'sleep mode' while being used [05:11] Se7h: file a bug. this channel is for discussion of your fix to that bug, not the bug itself [05:13] sure, i dont even know if its a bug, i'm just asking for some suggestions any of u might have [05:20] whoever; pong [05:22] Se7h: if it doesn't work on a default install of Ubuntu, it is a bug [05:22] desrt: salut [05:22] long time, no see [05:23] its been always like this, i thought it might be something with configs or something [05:23] indeed [05:23] how is life? [05:25] work isn't bad. Book writing is harder than expected. But the cool new thing I am organizing is a Freegeek style organization for Victoria [05:31] what are you writing a book about? [05:32] desrt: Ubuntu === shaya [n=spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:32] any kernel guys here? [05:32] myself, Jono and Mako are writing "The official Ubuntu book" [05:32] there might be a bug in isofs [05:32] dvd i burnt reads fine in windows, but on dapper gets a "trying to read past end of device" error [05:44] Burglaptop: in fact, i'm writing it RIGHT NOW [05:44] mako: hoping to have it available under some free license? [05:44] mako: racing to the deadline like me, hmm? [05:44] ajmitch_: yes [05:44] ajmitch_: in fact it will [05:44] Burglaptop: when is the deadline? [05:45] great [05:45] Burglaptop: i think one chapter will be a few days late === Burglaptop just laughs [05:45] next monday [05:45] hmm.. maybe i will make it [05:45] ajmitch_: the currently plan is cc-by-sa 2.0 and gfdl, same as the doc team [05:46] no, probalby not [05:46] it might actually be stored in the docteam repos [05:46] Burglaptop: you should have seen my last book.. SO LATE [05:46] mako: how many pages to go? [05:46] Burglaptop: i'm not really counting by pages [05:46] mako: I gathered that from speaking deb [05:46] Burglaptop: ok, shippable in main/universe? [05:46] with deb, even [05:46] i got it all in before i needed to be [05:46] ajmitch_: not for dapper, afaik [05:47] but it was under the line [05:47] Burglaptop: ah well === ajmitch_ will have to get an autographed hard copy [05:47] ajmitch_: it will be published by just after dapper [05:47] hence the tight deadline [05:48] it's not so bad [05:48] well, review is a pain in the ass [05:48] author review and all that [05:48] mako, I figure I will look good compared to you, if I get it all in on the deadline [05:48] :D [05:48] getting the autographs might be a fun task [05:48] yeah, i'll have all but one chapter in by the deadline [05:48] and the last one in by.. next week i guess [05:48] the money from this book should fund me to the next conference [05:48] that would be great [05:48] I doubt I'll be at the next one [05:49] screw my student loan [05:49] my loan is already well over [05:49] 10k to go! === ajmitch_ is doing a bit of C# work right now that might pay for it, if I really wanted to go [05:50] ajmitch_: windows or mono? [05:53] Burglaptop: yeah, i always find time for this but my real life has to take priority [05:54] Burglaptop: i had a big academic AI paper due on tuesday night that i was working on [05:54] mako: holy crap ya [05:54] mako: what degree are you working on? [05:55] LaserJock: SM->PhD [05:55] Burglaptop: win ce.net [05:55] at the MIT Media Lab [05:55] ajmitch_: at least it isn't php [05:56] mako: cool, I'm working on my PhD too, but in Physical Chemistry === Burglaptop is looking for someone to integrate Userful's multiseat hacks into X.org multiseat for dapper+1 [05:56] Burglaptop: that was my last job, for several months [05:56] Burglaptop: when I met you in .ca I was a self-confessed php hacker [05:57] my kingdom for more and better free software jobs === ajmitch_ is shocked to see his laptop swapping away [05:58] but I did just start OOo2 [06:00] ajmitch_: how much ram do you have in that thing? [06:01] 1GB [06:01] whiprush: how is that detriot youth and ubuntu thing [06:01] swapping with 1gb??? [06:01] but it's bzr chewing the RAM doing a merge [06:01] ah [06:01] and vmware server running winxp [06:01] so you do you development in bzr and ubuntu, with wince running in vmware? [06:02] Burglaptop: just got started, got about 20 of them done. [06:02] still figuring out logistics, donations, etc. etc. [06:02] no, winxp is in vmware to run some windows apps for this job [06:02] whiprush: how quickly do you think you are going to scale? [06:02] Burglaptop: once I get pics I'll blog a status report. [06:02] whiprush: and you are recycling computers or using new? [06:02] recycling [06:02] morning guys [06:03] morning fabbione [06:03] people and companies donate, get the tax writeoff, and then people can buy edubuntu PCs for $100. [06:03] whiprush: sounds reasonable [06:03] for everyone they buy a needy family in detroit gets a free PC. [06:03] whiprush: ah cool. I am in the beginnings of doing something similar in Victoria [06:03] ah, have you seen freegeek? [06:03] whiprush: what made you choose edubuntu? [06:03] yep [06:04] ajmitch_: seemed like the natural choice. [06:04] whiprush: targetting the families with kids? [06:04] I was thinking of taking the old p1 and p2s and running a pure gcompris desktop on them [06:04] yeah, well, kids actually refurb the PCs and stuff. [06:04] whiprush: http://www.relectronics.org/ <-- who I am basing it off of === ajmitch_ didn't think that you'd need the edubuntu server functionality [06:04] it's tied into a program in the city that is designed to educate kids on technology and whatnot. [06:05] ajmitch_: it has a workstation mode. [06:05] whiprush: have you thought about multiseat? [06:05] whiprush: yeah I know [06:05] whiprush: because if you can find a development, I have some code for you [06:05] s/ment/er [06:05] Burglaptop: the key was to just attach to an existing charity. They did all the legwork on getting corporate sponsorship, getting nonprofit status, etc. [06:05] Burglaptop: you're allowed to release some of the code from work? [06:06] Burglaptop: not at this point. [06:06] ajmitch_: already technically gpl/lgpl [06:06] and X now has multiseat [06:06] Burglaptop: nice, I thought it was based on the X code [06:07] http://openuserful.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Patches [06:07] already released [06:07] Burglaptop: the neat thing is that some towns around here are doing free municipal wifi, so a refurbed PC with a wifi nic is feasable without the ongoing cost of an internet connection. [06:08] whiprush: I am going to attach myself to habitat for humanity (who are much less christian in .ca) [06:08] Burglaptop: you've shown these to ogra? [06:08] ajmitch_: I will once dapper releases === ajmitch_ imagones 1 or 2 at least might be useful [06:08] so, right now we're bouncing the idea of corporate sponsors kicking in for the price of the PC, and in return we could do like an RSS-like screensaver that'll show off their products or something. [06:09] whiprush: you'll love that f-spot has a gnome-screensaver hack in it now [06:09] yeah I read that, awesome. [06:09] you doing it volunteer? [06:09] me? yeah. [06:09] whiprush: I have 0.1.10 ready here, needs UVF exception though [06:09] nice nice. [06:09] Burglaptop: we've already approached Ford Motor for sponsorship [06:10] ogra: http://openuserful.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Patches [06:10] so like, they help subsidize the PC, they get a screensaver with the latest model of the car or whatever. [06:10] cool [06:10] then us volunteers just run classes for the kids and stuff while they build the PCs. [06:10] whiprush: can we chat on the phone tomorrow about how you are doing it? [06:11] one of our loco guys is going to do simple python classes and whatnot. [06:11] whiprush: I can all you wherever [06:11] yeah sure, 248-370-2584, I'm on EST. [06:12] thanks. I am trying to talk to all the various organizations like freegeek, etc. about what they are doing === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:12] yeah we just started so we're finding all sorts of problems, heh. [06:12] and one more longdistance phone call really doesn't matter [06:13] we're going to have the local news stop by in a few sessions. [06:13] how many people do you have volunteering? [06:13] ~20-ish so far. [06:13] we haven't done brochures yet or anything though. [06:13] whiprush: http://freegeekcolumbus.org/wiki/Main_Page <-- these people install Ubuntu [06:13] that's the nice thing about hitching with an existing charity. [06:14] they usually have this infrastructure already in place. [06:14] yep [06:14] partnering with hfh gets me their restore, which means i get retail space [06:15] the first few hours suck, rebuilding all those PCs, but once the kids get going in the gimp or whatever it's really rewarding. === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:16] you think edubuntu is a better fit for most than ubuntu? [06:17] now that would be a nice a idea, spread this to portugal schools instead of that malicious windows [06:17] Se7h: spain leads europe in number of linux (and gnome) desktop, from what I understand [06:18] well, i'd rather trust ogra and co. to pick out the good educational apps than me customizing a CD to add kid programming. [06:18] i don't doubt of it [06:18] plus, ideally we can provide good feedback to edubuntu [06:18] uncle bill came here not long ago (few weeks) to spread his 'faith' [06:18] :> === mpt__ [n=mpt@219-89-133-196.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:19] evening mpt__ :) === ctd [i=ctd@succubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:20] but realy, i'd enjoy seeing ubuntu/edubuntu in school computers instead of just 'lets talk about linux now' for just a fews weeks at classes [06:21] Se7h: make it happen [06:22] i will if i get the chance, dont doubt [06:23] whiprush: ogra is looking for someone to help packaging willow, a bayseian web filter [06:24] yeah I need to get our plan in order a bit more still though. [06:24] that would be a nice step for PC's sellers to asked 'i want linux on my desktop/laptop' [06:24] *to be asked [06:25] well 5.25am, it's bed time === floam [n=nnfloam@sh.nu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:25] later all [06:26] whiprush: jsut reading the point about tiger_whitehead wanting filtering [06:26] yeah, I've been looking at integrating dansguardian. [06:26] I'm still researching around though. === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:27] whiprush: ogra seemed to love willion because it is bayesian [06:27] bed for me too, we'll talk more tomorrow. [06:28] http://www.digitallumber.com/willow [06:36] ajmitch_: the mounted volumes not placing icons on the desktop. Is that a policy decision or a bug? [06:37] policy, I *think* [06:37] I can't seem to find anything on DapperDesktopPlan [06:38] it's a gconf key (/apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible) [06:38] so I imagine it's been set off by default [06:39] you'll have to check with seb128 [06:39] appears to be unchecked [06:40] ah, bloody hell, stupid gpm [06:40] hiding while on AC is crack === Burglaptop fires off two mails to -desktop === stub [n=stub@gb.ja.101.40.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:10] Hi [07:10] hey pitti [07:10] hi ajmitch_ [07:30] Hi === marilize [n=marilize@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:30] Anyone knows where the hotplug directory is? [07:30] I would like to put some non-free firmware into my Dapper === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:37] jouston: hotplug is gone from Dapper. [07:38] jouston: please ask in #ubuntu+1 [07:39] bbl, see you next week [07:42] Burglaptop: THX === bmon [n=monnahan@218.Red-81-36-139.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lixus [n=lixuss@lixus.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ritvik [n=ritvik@mailout1.vmware.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [n=ccheney@ip70-185-4-246.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === j^ [n=j@e178035222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [n=carlos@84.76.255.40] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Aegir [n=richard@d220-238-100-20.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:55] morning [08:55] morning :) === Gloubiboulga is now known as Gloubi|Aw === jlj [n=agp@cpe-204-210-33-233.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:03] hey siretart === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:09] Kamion: When you're up - any chance you can NEW spiftacity? It'd be good to be able to say this is all in at FOSDEM [09:09] (No rush, though) === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-241-20.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:10] spiftacity? :) [09:10] spiftastic metacity, I assume? [09:10] (no rush, but FOSDEM is tomorrow :P) [09:13] : ping? [09:13] tepsipakki: Pong. [09:14] infinity: hi! do you have time to push a new version of libnfsidmap? I've asked for UVF already (no answer yet, though)... [09:15] tepsipakki: No can do without the UVF from mdz or Kamion. [09:15] inifinity: ok, I'll try to get that first, then ,) [09:15] ;) === infinity nods. [09:16] I'll be happy to go over your changes and sponsor the upload once you get approval. [09:17] it's here, if you'd like to take a first look.. (it's repackaged according to the feedback I got from libgssapi and librpcsecgss which made it in) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2019 [09:19] sorry, Section: libs is still missing from the Source: [09:21] new version on the way.. [09:26] uuuuh === siretart notices that openal is in main [09:27] :/ === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:31] tepsipakki: Can you mail me about it (better yet, CC me on your UVF enquiries, so I know when it's okay to sponsor the upload?) [09:31] tepsipakki: I'm off for the weekend now, so... Mail is always best. adconrad@ubuntu [09:32] infinity: ok, thanks! [09:32] will do === mvo [n=egon@p54A67DA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B2DAD.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] good morning [09:41] hey dholbach [09:41] dholbach: are you going to FOSDEM? [09:41] Treenaks: no, sorry, I won't. [09:49] mjg59: source NEWed, will check for binaries later === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@mailhost.newtec.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:54] Kamion: Thanks! [09:55] yay hal 0.5.7 [09:55] pitti: There's a pretty vital looking patch in there (lets hal-input-addon work with ADB keyboards) [09:57] mjg59: so.. what's spiftacity? just metacity + build-options? or a complete fork? [09:58] mjg59: whoa, that's a whole lot of bug fixes in the changelog === stub [n=stub@gb.ja.101.40.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-132-228.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:59] sjoerd: new hal's out for 2 hours, so where's your deb? :-P [10:00] Treenaks: Metacity CVS + build options + libcm dependency === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:01] hey seb128 [10:01] hi pitti :) [10:01] hey seb128! === seb128 grumpf to yesterday dist-upgrade which took ages, thanks to pitti :p === pitti whistles innocently === seb128 hugs pitti [10:02] dholbach: hi :) === cassidy [n=cassidy@ace-pc3.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:05] Any chance of seeing malone #23388 fixed in dapper? [10:05] malone bug 23388 in lsb lsb-base "tput used in /lib/lsb/init-functions after /usr is unmounted" [Minor,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/23388 [10:06] The bug is marked for ubuntu-6.04... but so far I have not seen anybody working on the issue. [10:07] pitti: that means we will divert from Debian for all the packages you uploaded now? [10:08] seb128: I actually diverted very few, maybe 5 [10:08] seb128: most of them were already diverted before [10:08] ekiga (1.99.1-0ubuntu3) dapper; urgency=low [10:08] . [10:08] * debian/rules: Add gettext domain to .server and .desktop files to get [10:08] language pack support for them. (Similarly to cdbs' gnome.mk) [10:08] [10:08] stuff like that? [10:08] yep [10:08] hum, k [10:08] pitti: morning [10:08] hey sivang [10:09] pitti: did you send me anything? [10:09] sivang: no, not yet [10:09] I thought I'd wait for you, and check if you actually have time [10:10] sivang: anyway, I'm already down to 7 packages on the TODO list [10:10] pitti: since when have you been working? ;-) === pitti is up since 6:30 [10:10] or wasn't there a lot of package in the first place.. [10:10] it wasn't that much any more [10:10] wow [10:11] okay, where the todo list? [10:11] sivang: tomboy tuxmath tuxtype vim xmms xsane xscreensaver [10:12] ogra: will xscreensaver stay in main? [10:13] ogra: nevermind, -data will [10:15] pitti: I have a XUL error (launchpad-related I think) in Mozilla === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:16] Treenaks: how can LP cause them? [10:16] that rather means some locale package or so is not in sync [10:16] (' That _sounds_ like launchpad-integration to me [10:17] Treenaks: IIRC seb128 did that, you can ask him. [10:17] yes, true [10:17] the patch should just be reverted, mozilla is universe now [10:17] pitti: it's firefox, sorry [10:17] what patch? [10:17] pitti: you think we patched mozilla for lpi? :) [10:18] one browser is enough :p [10:18] seb128: I hope not :) [10:18] anyway [10:18] " Bookmark, search and translation reference regression fixes: [10:18] * Restore `Translate This Application' and `Get Help Online'" [10:18] from the upload Diziet did yesterday [10:19] OK, so that broke it [10:19] or broke.. [10:19] I have a perfectly working firefox [10:19] with an XML error at the bottom [10:19] (and no help menu) === mvo is going to to his first commit to the new *bzr* tree of synaptic [10:20] mvo: !!! :) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo goes to create a ubuntu branch [10:22] history happening here? wish i could understand all of it :) [10:22] pitti: so, when will the firefox locales be updated? :) [10:23] Treenaks: I have no idea how to change them [10:23] great! [10:23] so where do I file the bug? [10:23] well, I'll check out the issue [10:23] ok [10:23] Treenaks: file it on firefox please [10:25] it is already filed multiple times [10:26] Treenaks: See #32651 for a workaround. === vuntz [n=vuntz@volin.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] what's wrong with LP builders? I uploaded cdbs almost two hours ago, and the new deb is still not even attempted to be built === carlos_ [n=carlos@62.87.127.194] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zeedo [n=zeedo@reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cassidy_ [n=cassidy@ace-pc3.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-132-228.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:59] Hmmm... shouldn't be readahead get run only after /usr is mounted? [11:00] It tries to read files from /usr after all... or maybe it could be run twice? [11:01] It is about 50% of the files in /usr after all. === cassidy_ is now known as cassidy === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel === theine [n=theine@c179054.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-209.nr.ip.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:18] pitti, xscreensaver will stay in main for xfce === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-4-35.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:18] ogra: yep, nevermind, the .desktop files are in -data and we need them anyway I guess [11:18] ogra: besides, it's already fixed :) [11:19] the .desktop files for gnome-screensaver dont need to be translateable for now ... they only show the app name ... [11:19] so dont waste time on them [11:20] ogra: well, I might want to change 'Gears' to something else in Dutch... ? [11:21] really ? [11:22] ogra: yeah, in Dutch it's 'Tandwielen' [11:22] was it translated in xscreensaver ? === ogra cant remember and is to lazy to install it ... [11:23] ogra: no, but that's not the point :) === Gman- [n=gman@nwkea-socks-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:25] Is Michael Vogt still around? [11:25] hunger: I see acpi-support bugs without them being assigned to me [11:27] mjg59: Sorry then. I am trying to clean out my reported-bugs list somewhat. [11:27] hunger: it's mvo [11:28] dholbach: Thanks. [11:31] in general reporters should not assign bugs to people in malone [11:31] you can subscribe other people to a bug if you want them to see it [11:31] the assigned-to field is (I'm told) intended to mean "this person is working on the bug" [11:32] Kamion: Is that documented somewhere? [11:32] the UI is not great when you're *re*assigning, so this doesn't always work right, but at least we can avoid reporters declaring that the maintainer is working on a bug when this is not true :) [11:32] hunger: no idea, I'm not a Malone developer [11:33] Kamion: I do not want to do something wrong... I am just doing what seems to get the bug fixed. [11:33] Kamion: assigning one works wonders most of the time;-) [11:35] Kamion: Besides: somebody recommended here to assign to the last person mentioned in the changelog a while back when LP was still new. === lemsto [n=salim@ANantes-154-1-6-210.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:36] Kamion: and the UI is not great whatever you do;-) [11:37]