=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:51] Riddell: ping? [12:52] LaserJock: idle for 12 hours - must be out for the night [12:52] and morning [12:52] no, still night - i cant figure out timezones [12:52] 12 hours, jeeze. How can he survive without IRC that long ;-) [12:52] lol [12:53] I don't drink coffee, I just start IRC [12:54] hehehe [12:54] yeah, or start browsing the net, either works [12:54] yeah, first thing in the morning, I pop open the laptop and get on IRC and check the email. [12:55] heh - i see that i'm not alone [12:55] much to my mother's discust [12:55] s/discust/disgust [12:56] and my wife's :( [12:58] hehe yeah [12:58] I've heard more than once, "You need to divorce your computer!" [01:01] eep! [01:01] i've heard the "sharing the same computer is spelt divorce" but not that one === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ltmon [n=ltmon@dsl-220-235-91-227.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ltmon [n=ltmon@dsl-220-235-91-227.vic.westnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [03:01] ugh, malone search is borked. [03:01] or not === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.101.135] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hua [n=hua@221.172.51.66] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock_away [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@213.208.70.155] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee goes bug squishing [03:25] Hobbsee: morning [03:26] hey freeflying [03:29] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/32442 for tonio_ === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:03] Riddell: ping? === toma is now known as toma_ [04:29] you're kidding...this cant be such a simple fix for a bug that's been annoying me for ages... [04:33] no, it's not, the bug is still there. didnt think so. [04:33] Hobbsee: do you ever get the feeling that your just talking to yourself :-) [04:34] hehe [04:34] sure [05:24] Hobbsee: r u here now ? [05:25] freeflying: yeah [05:25] Hobbsee: can ou play mp3 file with amarok-xine now [05:26] freeflying: yep [05:27] Hobbsee: with the latest amarok in dapper ? [05:27] yes [05:27] no, wait [05:27] 1.3.8 [05:28] Hobbsee: 1.3.8-0ubuntu6 [05:29] Version: 2:1.3.8-0ubuntu6 [05:29] yep [05:30] use xine as engine [05:31] yep === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:18] Hobbsee: I can not play mp3 with amarok-xine .although I've w32codecs installed [06:18] i dont have w32codecs installed, my system plays mp3's fine [06:25] Hobbsee: if you haven't w32codecs installed , how can you play mp3 with amarok-xin [06:25] i honestly have no idea... [06:25] at least, i ahvent installed it, so unless it installed it via a previous repo or something, or somehow carried over with my /home folder...i dont know [06:26] w32codecs is needed with xine i think yeh [06:26] its a dodgy package [06:26] google for ubuntu w32codecs and you can find it [06:26] or install gstreamer0.8-mad and amarok-gstreamer === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:40] Lathiat: it's seems that amarok can not uset gst as engine now === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.100.50] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez_ [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez_ [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:59] how come there's no more xorgcfg in Dapper? === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D1216.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne [n=seaLne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seaLne [n=seaLne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebas [n=sebas@belphegor.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] man this thing likes having problems! === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.100.137] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ is now known as toma [01:49] hi [01:50] hey kmon [01:51] kubuntu seems to be more polished as of today, congratulations everyone :) [01:51] anyone know if usplash-down will enter dapper? [01:52] or on the contrary it's been deferred? [01:54] kmon: what is usplash-down? [01:55] usplash but when rebooting/halting the distro [01:55] so insted of a forward progress bar you need a backwards bar [01:57] ah [01:57] thanks [02:00] lastest usplash packages included a executable called: /usr/sbin/usplash_down [02:00] but it's not used yet [02:00] at least in kubuntu === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6098C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=hua@222.50.182.47] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:01] just wanted to say upgraded finally to flight 4 w/ a fresh install and it rocks :) [06:03] jjesse: cool :) [06:04] jjesse: true - it is just nice [06:04] jjesse: did you manage to configure KMail with Exchange === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:10] re jjesse_ === robotgeek [n=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:14] hey robotgeek [06:15] hey jpatrick [06:21] jjesse: any part of the docs I can help with? [06:23] jpatrick: heh, you can help with Kubuntu Desktop Guide too :) [06:24] robotgeek: ok, it's just that with FF I can't make NEW packages [06:25] jpatrick: heh, good for the doc team :) [06:26] :) [06:29] jpatrick: there's still a tips and tricks which needs major love [06:30] jpatrick: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html is the UDG, only the last section needs some major love [06:31] ok then: === jpatrick is playing Let There Be Love by Oasis on Don't Believe The Truth [amaroK] [06:31] ;-) === robotgeek would have kicked jpatrick in #kubuntu for that, lol === jpatrick gets doc svn [06:32] jpatrick: don't worry about the add-applications stuff not being in there, it has not been commited yet [06:33] robotgeek: the "getting more help" bit? [06:34] jpatrick: no, i am trying to maintain the structure as close to the UDG as possible. The second chapter isn't commited yet [06:35] jpatrick: getting more help is done, i think. [06:35] saw that [06:35] jpatrick: 4. Configuring Your System needs love :) [06:35] ok === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.96.153] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:36] too bad I only use KDE [06:36] hopefully, it will be up for review by next week. [06:36] jpatrick: i use kde only too, but we needs to make equivalent substituions, that makes it easy for us :) [06:38] jpatrick: i need to go right now, feel free to ask on mailing list/ -doc if you need anything [06:38] oh I see [06:39] you want me to do for KDG what UDG has done [06:39] jpatrick: exactly, no need to start from scratch :) [06:39] cya robotgeek [06:39] jpatrick: thanks for the help! [06:39] no problem === TheK [n=KaiL@p548F5F1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheK is now known as KaiL === verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0099B.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:44] hello Riddell [07:44] you were at fosdem today? [07:45] i went in for a few mins, but i don't saw anybody there i recognized :( [07:45] didn't see* === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-250-120.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-250-120.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:10] hey LaserJock [08:10] hi jpatrick [08:12] is Riddell around? [08:13] No (I think) [08:13] hmm, jjesse? [08:13] in that he hasn't said anything on irc so far today [08:13] I haven't seen him today (or yesterday) [08:14] me neither [08:14] s/me/him [08:15] LaserJock: can I help with Packaging Guide? [08:16] jpatrick: sure, I'm always needing help :-) [08:16] cool :) [08:16] in fact I was going to ask you if you could do a little section on pacakging for Kubuntu [08:18] fine :) [08:19] jpatrick: do you have a doc team svn repo checkout? [08:19] I have the svn here [08:19] going though it [08:20] jpatrick: ok, so the packaging guide is in generic/ , it also gets built into html daily at doc.ubuntu.com [08:20] I saw that [08:21] how can it be kubuntu-specific? [08:22] well, I mean packaging for KDE [08:24] okay [08:25] I see now [08:25] does that make sense? [08:25] 1) .pot file generation, etc [08:26] I mean, I just want to make sure any issues specific to Kubuntu(KDE) are addressed. [08:26] yes === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-151.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:31] gotta learn docbook.... [08:31] jpatrick: if you don't want to or don't have time you can just email me the text and I'll docbookize it ;-) [08:31] I'll be fine - I'll try === jpatrick just ran out of hdd space === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:55] jpatrick: uhh oh :( [08:55] jpatrick: =) [08:55] well on my /home hdd [08:56] jpatrick: rm -rf /prOn [08:56] :P === seaLne had a user earlier who managed to fill up a home partition with a 196Gb .xsession-serros file :-/ [08:56] wow [08:56] =) [08:56] seaLne: rofl [08:56] Tm_T: surely it would be rm -rf ~/work before ~/pr0n :) [08:57] this is what happens when you rip too many cds [08:57] I've never been close to filling up that much space. I generally use about 20-30 GB out of 120GB [08:57] LaserJock: well in total I have around 16GBs space on this old thing [08:57] seaLne: sad but true, yes ;( [08:57] heh === Tm_T have ~100GB useless backups [08:58] speaking of backups anyone know how to work around differing versions of rdiff-backup breezy/sarge [08:58] hmm, I don't have any ~/pr0n, but Unreal Tournament and America's Army take up quite a bit ;-) [08:59] jpatrick: have you noticed those two brothers in #kubuntu does make a lot of noise? [08:59] err dapper/sarge [08:59] tomas_ && another? === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away [09:01] d'oh he left [09:02] :p [09:02] jpatrick: yup, I was almost ready to kick him but they gave up "international" part from conversation === nlindblad hugs Katapult === seaLne wonders why katapult won't start knode [09:05] seaLne: not in kmenu [09:05] the only main difference i could see was it had an unknown icon for knode and never showed the exec icon [09:06] jpatrick: is that the reason? katapult only shows stuff from kmenu? [09:06] LaserJock_away: for when you come back: http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot285fa.png <- how do make the "Generating..." part a subtitle? [09:06] seaLne: yep [09:06] it check .desktop files there i think [09:07] ah, i was confused by why even xterm worked [09:08] jpatrick: or I think, wiki.ubuntu.com/DocBook and w.u.c./DocBookReference ;-) [09:08] jpatrick: why can't it read all .desktop files? [09:08] whoever wrote katapult, I love you [09:09] nlindblad: tvo, Mez and some others === nlindblad hugs 'em [09:09] right-click icon -> About Katapult [09:10] seaLne: dunno [09:10] right-click where? [09:10] on the launcher? [09:10] jpatrick: in breezy knode runs from katapult [09:10] right-click (systray) icon [09:10] hmm, not here [09:11] jpatrick: that last comment in relation to knode? [09:11] I type it and nothing happens [09:12] I have no systray for it [09:12] works for me with or without kontatct running [09:12] 3.5.1? [09:13] yes [09:13] strange [09:15] anyone else on breezy able to test katapult and knode? [09:16] Tm_T: some people are been rude on #kubuntu === robotgeek [n=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:16] ? [09:17] jpatrick: tell me more (bit blind atm) [09:17] [21:14:06] fucking lame [09:18] aaah [09:19] oh well, have to watch if I have a chance to kick some asses ;-P [09:19] but noisy today too [09:21] rock! http://img497.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot294vw.png [09:21] :o [09:24] jpatrick: how did you get the location bar to stay there? I do it, and (mysteriously -- I'm serious), the main toolbar and the location one go on to seperate lines and then absolutely refuse to stay on one again [09:24] though tbh I can't figure out how to get rid of the blasted Google bar, too (kind of consider it obsolete with the handy gg: konq shortcuts) [09:25] apokryphos: it was like that [09:25] it's been one of konqueror's recurring idiosyncrasies for me. Odd :P [09:30] OMG, I love yakuake [09:31] Tm_T: those two are gonna gibberish the whole day [09:31] nlindblad: you love alot of thing [09:31] things* [09:31] nah, just kick-ass KDE apps [09:31] I hate lot of things [09:31] atm I hate people in general [09:32] Tm_T: don't hate me! [09:32] I think he already does [09:33] ] ;= [09:33] ^^ he's a bull - they kill those in spain [09:34] yup [09:34] I've seen them at it === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:36] re allee [09:36] hi jpatrick [09:37] evening allee [09:37] toma: hi [09:37] toma: tonight is digikam bug day ;) === toma hides behind a big rock [09:38] toma: last fix, fixed ppc but broke amd64 :( [09:38] i saw it [09:38] nice catch [09:38] toma: I extract Gilles send patch version [09:39] s/send/second/ [09:40] toma: do you think you feel like working on media again before 0.9? [09:40] how do you switch between tabs in konsole? [09:40] allee: i've worked on a library untill 4am this morning [09:40] nlindblad: shift-left/right [09:40] toma: oh, great. [09:41] allee: i think that is a better solution. [09:41] toma: I think Gilles work is important for semi-profis, but media is important for all ;) [09:41] thanks [09:41] toma: agreed. I'm looking forward to use the lib for codeine [09:42] Tm_T: looks like they've gone to chat on msn [09:42] allee: im just unsure what to do with the code, upload in playground or just plain copies where needed [09:42] in other words, pack it or not [09:43] toma: lets try them with two/three apps via copy. If API is proven to be flexible enough, but it in library [09:43] sigh s/put/but/ [09:43] oki [09:43] s/but/put/ even [09:44] i need two evenings to wrap it up next week, then i'll clean up digikam and maybe give you a patch for codeine [09:45] whow that would be great!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:46] yeah, strange thing is that all functionality is in kde, only very hidden, so it is just a convinience lib [09:57] jpatrick: yup [10:11] hunger: at fosdem? [10:15] jpatrick: peaceful there now ;) [10:18] gnight -> === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:28] hello kmon [10:28] hi jpatrick === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:42] jpatrick: do you know if kubuntu will go with klaptop or kpowersave? [10:42] not sure [10:42] I think Lure was working on that [10:43] kmon: problem with kpowersave is that it does not go well with powernowd [10:43] and powernowd is required by *-desktop meta package [10:44] yes, the other day I was about to give it a go, but noticed that removal [10:44] so I didn't do it. [10:44] otherwise I like the design and split of daemon and applet code [10:45] but it does not go well with Ubuntu/g-p-m minimalistic way [10:45] It would be worth to open discussion with ubuntu-laptop people for Dapper+1 [10:46] maybe we can find a way for interoperability [10:50] jpatrick: where is the image and resolution specified for new default moodin [10:50] In it's config [10:50] Theme.rc seems not to be enough [10:50] :/ [10:51] I have changed Bacground and BaseResultion to match my screen, but I still get resized [10:52] that is odd [10:52] Readme mentioned that I should repackage and install again [10:53] try iy [10:53] it* === LaserJock_away is now known as LaserJock [11:10] LaserJock: this is coming on really well [11:11] jpatrick: great [11:11] doing the REVU bit now [11:20] jpatrick: when you get a chunck done could you email it to me? it is easier if I deal with more than one small diff than one big one. [11:21] yes, I've read that [11:21] gonna finish revu-part and send [11:21] ok, great [11:24] too bad, Riddell removed kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff from the site [11:27] kubuntu section's html file isn't being created here [11:27] jpatrick: where? [11:28] http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/572424 [11:31] jpatrick: could be it isn't validating or it is in with another section. === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.97.94] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel