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Snoopy010481mehaga: does it work?12:04
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samoura#samoura12:07
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samualcould somebody please try to help? my dhcp is not starting at boot-time and I have to start it each time manually...12:08
Snoopy010481i will leave now12:08
Snoopy010481bye12:08
noteventimesamual12:08
noteventimepostbin /etc/network/interfaces12:08
samualnoteventime: auto lo12:10
samualnoteventime: iface lo inet loopback12:10
noteventime!postbin12:10
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime12:10
samualnoteventime: what is postbin?12:11
noteventime!pastebin12:11
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)12:11
noteventimepastebin i mean, sorry12:11
samualnoteventime: don't have such a command.12:11
noteventimeits not a commad its a webpage12:12
noteventime!pastebin12:12
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)12:12
noteventime:)12:12
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samualnoteventime: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d927512:14
RomanKHi all!12:14
noteventimeok12:14
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RomanKi've got a problem... i just installed kubuntu (5.10) and now kde-su doesn't work... something about "not able to contact su"... "sudo -s" doesn't work either... it asks for my password and then open's a shell... but not for root but for the same user who executed "sudo -s"12:15
noteventimesamual: auto rausb0 should do the work12:15
samualnoteventime: really?12:16
samualnoteventime: that would be cool. gotta go and try. :-)12:16
noteventimeStrange thing it doesn't12:16
noteventimeyou already have that12:16
noteventimethats the problem12:17
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samualnoteventime: hmmm, and what about line 11?12:18
samoura#samoura12:18
noteventimethats what i mean12:18
xwolf-how do i play wmv files?12:19
samualnoteventime: I take it out then?12:19
noteventimeno12:19
noteventimeno12:19
noteventimexwolf install w32codecs12:19
noteventime!wmv12:19
uboturestricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:19
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samualnoteventime: so, you wouldn't know the answer?12:22
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noteventimeNo, I'm sorry12:22
noteventimei thought you might have missed the auto for some reason12:22
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RomanKre12:23
RomanKkubuntu seemed to miss to edit my /etc/sudoers-file during installation...12:27
RomanKcould someone please show me, how my primary user should be listed in there?12:28
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Mronohiya12:30
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s_v_e_nHelp with Knoda please, Im runnung Kubunto and cant get scripting to work12:32
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xwolf-i installed w32codecs package... but i can't find mplayer in apt12:33
Mronocourse not12:34
Mrono it's not there12:34
Mronocommand line12:34
xwolf-great.12:34
RomanKhm... is the admin-group in kubuntu 5.10 "admin" or "adm"?12:34
Mronoyep12:34
Mronoor12:34
Mronoyou can also do an open with12:35
Mronoand put mplayer in it12:35
Mrono:)12:35
Mronoso when you double click on the file it runs the command12:35
xwolf-but i don't think it is installed, mrono12:35
Mronomplayer file12:35
Mronotry12:35
samourahello12:36
samouranoteventime12:36
samouracome back i was eating :D12:36
xwolf-Mrono 'cannot find mplayer program'12:37
xwolf-well, that's the ideia12:37
xwolf-*idea12:37
zephryosHobbsee HEEEEEELP!12:37
MronoI compiled mine12:37
Mronolol12:37
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Mronolol12:38
Mronokrita keeps crashing12:38
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samouramrono?12:38
Mronoyo12:38
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samouracan you help me12:38
samoura?12:38
Mronodo...12:39
zephryosHOBBSEE!!12:39
samourahelp me with a boot12:39
Mronowhat's wrong with it12:39
MronoI might know something12:39
zephryoshoooooobsse e eee12:39
zephryos:- (12:39
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Mronolol12:39
Mronowhat's wrong12:39
zephryosI cant find a driver that works12:39
samourai have set it up but i cant connect the bot to any server so can you read this becouse you understand better engilish than me http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php    and than go down and read it please ;S12:40
Mronolol12:40
MronoI have to recompile my kernal12:40
samouramrono12:41
Mronoyeh12:41
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samoura#samoura come on this channal please :( to help me12:41
Mronouh ok12:41
xwolf-how do i install mplayer? ;>12:42
Mronotry12:42
Mronoapt-get install mplayer12:42
Mronoer12:42
Hobbseehey zephryos12:42
Mronosudo that12:42
xwolf-couldnt.12:42
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Mronook12:42
Mronocompile it12:42
xwolf-yeah, i'm downloading the bz2 already ;/12:42
xwolf-but i don't have enough kung fu yet12:43
gammadumb question.. is there an easy way of selecting links in a web browser w/o a mouse?12:43
Mronouh huh12:43
Mronoextentions12:43
xwolf-ahm12:44
xwolf-gamma pressing TAB? ;P12:44
gammableh :P12:44
gammathat's annoying on sites with tons of clickables12:44
xwolf-true.12:44
gammaguess mouse it is..12:45
MronoI need some help with setting up my mousde12:46
Mronothe middle button doesn't work right12:46
Hobbseegamma: you could always use elinks/w3m if you want a web browser without a mouse12:46
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gammai was hoping there was something i could do using konqueror12:47
gammashift from mouse to kb wastes time :P12:47
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Mronolol12:48
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MronoI need to get more codecs for my mplayer01:06
Mronoand i got a video of my poiwermate01:06
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gammaw32codecs includes a lot of crap :P01:10
MronoI still need more01:11
MronoI have no other video players01:11
Mronomplayer is the only one that works01:12
Mronotwo major things01:12
MronoI need to get video playback working01:12
MronoI need to get wifi working01:12
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Mronothose are pretty much the two major things01:13
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Hobbsee!tell Mrono about wifi01:13
Mronobesides my toshiba stuff01:13
Mronoyada01:13
Mronoseen it01:13
Mronothe last week has been one big scavenger hunt01:13
Mronoit's taken me a whole week to get here01:13
Mronoliterally01:13
Hobbseelol01:13
Mronoalmost I started on sunday01:13
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Mronoanyone use smart DJ01:14
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Mronoweird01:15
gammaall the problems i've had with kubuntu have been minor stuff compared to gentoo01:16
Mronomy wine dispeared when I upgraded to 3.5.101:16
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gammakubuntu makes everything easy imo :P01:16
gammait's probably there, the icon is just gone01:16
Mronoit is01:16
Mronosweet01:16
blackvdto install kde 3.5 i just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right?01:16
MronoUT seems to run01:16
blackvdfresh install of ubuntu01:16
gammablackvd: if you're running dapper, yes01:17
Mronoinstall the KDE repositories01:17
blackvdno just 5.1001:17
Mrononoo01:17
gammayou'll need the extra repositories for breezy01:17
Mronoit just crashed01:17
Mronodarnit01:17
blackvdcan you point me in the right direction to get it?01:17
gammahttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php01:18
farous!3.5.101:18
ubotu3.501:18
gamma!3.501:18
ubotugamma: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:18
gamma!kde-35101:18
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gamma01:18
faroushmm i guess there was a factoid about it and was in the topic before01:18
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gamma!amarok01:18
ubotumethinks amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/01:18
Hobbseeblackvd: you can get kde with only version 3.4.3 with just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:18
Hobbsee!kde3.501:18
ubotu(you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".01:18
Hobbsee!kde3.5.101:19
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".01:19
gammaaha01:19
Hobbseeblackvd: ^01:19
gamma!amarok-1.401:19
ubotugamma: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:19
Mrono!amarok01:19
ubotuI guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/01:19
farousHobbsee: to the rescue :)01:19
Hobbseefarous: :)01:19
blackvdcool thanks01:19
McScruffi fooked up my kubuntu install earlier, i went to remove a package and it ended up removeing 99% of kubuntu, is there a way to fix this for next time?01:21
gammaMcScruff: don't do that again01:21
gamma:P01:21
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McScrufflol, i will try not to :)01:21
zephryosok I foudn a drvier and it seems to work01:21
gammaMcScruff: if you do it again just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:21
zephryosnow I just cant connect to the network.. or something01:21
zephryosi dont know01:21
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gammashould give you all the basics again01:21
farousMcScruff: try the -s option to simulate before installing or removing next time01:21
McScruffgamma , i tried that, apt-get has been removed01:21
gammawtf did you try removing? 0.o01:22
McScruffi cant remember :)01:22
gammalike the kernel? cuz i did that once -.-01:22
McScruffit prob was the kernel01:22
zephryosHobbsee you there?01:22
McScruffcoz for some reason 386 gets installed , grrrr01:22
gammayea make sure you preview the changes of stuff it's going to remove when you get rid of stuff01:22
Hobbseezephryos: yeah01:22
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gammaMcScruff: there isn't any speed difference between 686 and 386 kernel wise, so don't worry too much about switching over01:23
McScruffi already switched on this install :)01:23
zephryosHobbsee: I found the correct driver for my wireless card. I had my stepdad make the network open for a little while to see if it will work.01:23
gammathere were performance benchmarks out there on the net and they were neck and neck01:23
Hobbseeoh goody!01:23
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zephryosHobbsee: It will detect the network, and it shows it in KWiFiManager, Channel 8, and that .. but I have no IP addy and I cant get anything from it when I disable the lan connection.01:24
McScruffGot to install vmware now :O01:24
Hobbseezephryos: try a sudo ifup wlan001:24
Hobbseethen a sudo dhclient wlan001:25
zephryosI did...01:25
McScruffto package people, how come vmware player isnt a package :S01:25
xwolf-Mrono01:25
xwolf-i ran ./configure01:25
Mronoyou be wanting me?01:25
xwolf-then make01:25
Mronoand?01:26
xwolf-what do i do now?01:26
Mronotype sudo make install01:26
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xwolf-done01:27
xwolf-isn't there a gui or sth?01:27
__mikemWhy does ubuntu run slowly under vmware?01:28
Mrononope01:28
Mronosee the man pages for help01:28
Mronoor to have it auto run a file01:28
Mronoright click on the file01:28
Mronoclick open with01:28
Mronotype in mplayer in the top01:29
McScruff__mikem : when i tested it before it was fine for me01:29
Mronothen click use for all file types or whatever01:29
Mronothen ok01:29
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Mronohmm01:31
treyh0ooh cool volatile01:31
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samourahello is there a computer pro here?01:33
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zephryosdamnit Hobbsee >.<01:34
Hobbseezephryos: it didnt like it?01:34
Hobbseewhat happened?01:34
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samouraFirst of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?01:35
samourahello help01:35
zephryos! register01:36
uboturegister is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))01:36
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ZephryosCan anyone see me type? :- \01:37
Mronohey xwolf did it work?01:38
Mronono01:38
samouraFirst of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?01:38
Zephryosbah where'd Hobbsee go?01:38
Mronolol01:38
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HobbseeZephryos: have you never heard of a /whois01:38
Zephryos?01:39
samouraFirst of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?01:39
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ZephryosWhat about it?01:39
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samouraHelp me please01:40
samouradoes no body knows about this?01:40
ryanakcahow do you find out what video card your using? I think its intel815... but I'm not sure...01:41
farousryanakca: lspci01:42
farousin a terminal01:42
samouraFirst of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?  PLEASE can any one knows this yes or no?01:42
samoura how do i copy and paste in Konsole help01:43
faroussamoura: use the mouse buttons01:44
farousright click and select paste01:45
Mronosweet01:46
MronoI just ran UT through WINE01:46
Mronoand it worked01:46
Mronobrb01:46
CheeseBurgerManShift+Insert is also paste in Konsole.01:46
Mronosetting it up01:46
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gosuflavorHey,  can someone help me out?01:48
gosuflavorI'm getting a problem with ndiswrapper01:48
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Hobbseegosuflavor: what problem?01:49
gosuflavorI'm trying to install a driver for my wireless adapter01:49
ryanakcahow do you get cron to run "apt-get update" every hour on the hour?01:50
CheeseBurgerMangosuflavor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2901:50
gosuflavorChecked that01:50
CheeseBurgerManoh01:50
CheeseBurgerManDidn't work?01:50
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gosuflavorI got to sudo modprobe ndiswrapper01:51
gosuflavorI checked the log, but it hangs01:51
gosuflavorThere isn't any "taro@ubuntu:~$"01:51
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gosuflavorThe log says <3>ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1534):loadndiswrapper failed (11); check system log for messages from 'loadndiswrapper'01:52
robotgeekgosuflavor: check /var/log/syslog or "dmesg | grep ndis"01:53
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gosuflavorI get the same message, but at the end, I have Feb 24 19:41:46 ubuntu -- MARK --01:54
robotgeekgosuflavor: what wireless card do you have?01:55
gosuflavorWUSB54G01:55
gosuflavorv401:55
robotgeekgosuflavor: and which chipset is it? "lspci -v"01:56
samouraFirst of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?  PLEASE can any one knows this yes or no?01:57
samoura how do i copy and paste in Konsole help01:57
gosuflavorThe thing is, it's not a PCI card01:57
gosuflavorIt's USB01:57
CheeseBurgerMansamoura: To copy, select the text, right click, and press copy01:57
CheeseBurgerMansamoura: to paste, press Shift + Insert01:57
samouraIT WONT WORK01:57
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robotgeekgosuflavor: sorry, "lsusb -vvv"01:58
robotgeekCheeseBurgerMan: i think samoura needs copy file01:58
CheeseBurgerManOh.01:58
CheeseBurgerMancp <thing to copy> <place to copy to>01:58
CheeseBurgerManIIRC01:58
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gosuflavorSo far, it isn't responding02:00
samourahow do i use cp02:00
samourafile:///home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub02:00
samoura how do i copy and paste in Konsole help02:00
gosuflavorIt's letting me type on the new lines with no "taro@ubuntu:~&"02:01
CheeseBurgerMansamoura: cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub <put location you want to copy the thing to here>02:01
farousmm funny thing the most common reply in #debian is google it. sometimes i feel i want to use it here02:02
samourai want to copy this conf.hub to the binary02:02
Hobbseefarous: yes, same.  or do a copy paste of what was said above02:02
samourahow do i do that02:02
samourai want to copy this conf.hub to the binary02:02
samourahow do i do that02:02
CheeseBurgerMansamoura: Where is the binary?02:02
samoura /usr/bin02:03
CheeseBurgerMancp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:03
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:04
samouracp: cannot create regular file `/usr/bin/conf.hub': Permission denied02:04
CheeseBurgerManthen sudo it02:04
CheeseBurgerMansudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:04
faroustale care Hobbsee got to do some real work now. Take care all :)02:04
samourasudo: /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found02:04
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$02:04
CheeseBurgerManBRB02:04
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo  ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:05
samourasudo: /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found02:05
CheeseBurgerManyou have to use sudo cp, not just sudo02:06
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gosuflavorThe "lsusb -vvv" didn't work02:06
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samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo /Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:08
samourasudo: /Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found02:08
CheeseBurgerMansamoura:  sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:08
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ samoura:  sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:08
samourabash: samoura:: command not found02:08
CheeseBurgerManDon't include your name02:08
samouranow output?02:09
samourano output ?02:09
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$  sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:10
CheeseBurgerManif you want output, type sudo cp  -v ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:10
samoura`/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub' -> `/usr/bin/conf.hub'02:11
samourano out put :S02:11
samourais it bad?02:11
CheeseBurgerManNo. It copied.02:11
samourayppi02:11
samouracan you help me more02:11
CheeseBurgerManDunno if my patience can handle it, but what's the problem?02:11
samouraread this i cant anderstand http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php  down down02:12
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gosuflavorCan someone help me?02:14
hatake_kakashiask the question and you might get an answer02:14
gosuflavorI already asked02:15
samouranice come back02:15
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brydennanyone here running KBFX?02:15
Hobbseegosuflavor: which version of ndiswrapper are you using?02:15
gosuflavorThe one that came with 5.10, I don't have internet access on that one02:15
hatake_kakashiahh man, usb wifi02:16
Hobbseegosuflavor: you can compile a newer version of ndiswrapper if you like, to see if that works better02:16
gosuflavorWill I be able to without the updated files?02:17
gosuflavorOr would I have to burn them to a CD?02:17
gosuflavorWait...02:17
gosuflavorDumb question, nevermind02:17
gosuflavorOk, I'll try that02:18
gosuflavorThanks02:18
Hobbseedownload them on the comp with a net connection, along with instructions, use a cd/usb stick or whatever to transfer them over?02:18
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Hobbsee1.10 also works on dapper - untried on breezy though02:18
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CheeseBurgerManit works, and I don't want to fiddle with  it. :P02:19
Hobbseehehe true02:19
Hobbseeyou're lucky - it's borked on dapper, so you have to compile it yourself02:19
Hobbseefortunately, it's very simple02:19
CheeseBurgerManyeah, ./configure make install stuff. ;)02:19
samourasudo cp  -v ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin02:19
samoura`/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub' -> `/usr/bin/conf.hub'02:19
CheeseBurgerMangreat, samoura. We saw that.02:20
samouraokei did you read this02:20
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samourahey come on  #samoura02:20
samourato help me better please02:20
hatake_kakashi-_-02:20
CheeseBurgerManif you have a problem, I'll help you in here.02:20
samouraokei02:21
CheeseBurgerManor, try to. ;)02:21
samouraread this i cant anderstand http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php  down down02:21
samourai am trying to install a bot02:21
CheeseBurgerManJust use chanserv. :P02:21
samourathis bot has 44 bots in it and the bots can go on the same channal02:21
CheeseBurgerMangreat, 44 bots to memorize.02:22
samourayes02:22
samouraand i want it ;(02:22
CheeseBurgerMan</sarcasm> BTW02:22
samouraplease help me02:22
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samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ psotnic -c config.file02:23
samouraPsotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51)02:23
samouraCopyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin <grusin@gmail.com>02:23
samoura[*]  Loading decrypted config from 'config.file'02:23
samoura[-]  Cannot open config file: No such file or directory02:23
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CheeseBurgerManif you'd read it, it says " First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :)"02:23
CheeseBurgerManSo, edit it02:23
samouraohh why cant this just run :(02:23
samourahow?02:23
crimsunmake sure the path to config.file is correct02:23
samourai am new in this linux02:23
CheeseBurgerManNo idea, that's what it says.02:24
CheeseBurgerMan;)02:24
raphinkhi delphlelfe02:24
samouracrimsun do you have than kind of bot02:24
hatake_kakashisamoura: you are supposed to put it where it asks you, not where-ever you desire.02:24
CheeseBurgerManlol02:25
crimsunsamoura: ...no02:25
ryanakcahow do you get cron to run "apt-get update" every hour on the hour?02:25
samourai am trying to put it in a binary folder02:26
samouraand i dont know how02:26
hatake_kakashiryanakca: assuming you are using vixie cron: http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm02:27
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hatake_kakashisamoura: did it say to put it there? isn't there a manual to say where its put?02:28
hatake_kakashipsotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub <-- try this02:29
CheeseBurgerMansamoura: by 'edit it' it means to..well..edit the /usr/bin/conf.hub using the options given in  section 1. (nick, realname, nickappend, etc)02:30
samourahttp://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page02:32
samouraevery one help me please02:32
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thomasHi, I accidentally installed kscreensaver, and when I try to install it, it tells me to insert the CD02:32
thomasmy CD drive dosen't work, btw02:33
Mronohey02:33
Mronomplayer-386:02:33
Mrono Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20  but it is not installable02:33
samourahttp://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page02:33
CheeseBurgerManthomas: try sudo apt-get remove kscreensaver02:33
thomasit says it isn't installed02:33
CheeseBurgerManoh02:33
thomasbut it refuses to download it, just wants the CD02:33
thomascould I modify my sources.lst to fix that?02:34
hatake_kakashicomment out the line that contains about the cdrom I presume?02:34
samouraPsotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51)02:34
samouraCopyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin <grusin@gmail.com>02:34
samoura[*]  Loading decrypted config from 'config.file'02:34
samoura[-]  Cannot open config file: No such file or directory02:34
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samoura[-]  Cannot open config file: No such file or directory  how to run it02:34
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CheeseBurgerMangood grief, samoura. Try what hatake_kakashi said.02:35
thomasha, it's the first line too :)02:36
samourawhat did hi sayd02:36
CheeseBurgerManpsotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub02:36
thomasthank you :)02:36
hatake_kakashithomas: don't forget to apt-get update after uncommenting it02:36
hatake_kakashierr commenting it out02:36
hatake_kakashinp02:36
samoura[-]  Cannot open config file: Permission denied02:37
CheeseBurgerMansudo psotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub02:37
samouraPsotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51)02:38
samouraCopyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin <grusin@gmail.com>02:38
samoura[*]  Loading decrypted config from '/usr/bin/conf.hub'02:38
samoura[-]  /usr/bin/conf.hub:8: Unknown host: 127.0.0.1.02:38
samoura[-]  Failed to load config02:38
thomashmm... what's interesting is that the Random screensaver has waaay more screensavers in it than I can choose from :?02:38
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hatake_kakashiTD-Linux: not sure02:38
louis^Hello02:38
CheeseBurgerMansudo psotnic /usr/bing/conf.hub02:38
CheeseBurgerManhello02:38
CheeseBurgerManwhoops02:38
louis^i need to test my fps with glxgear02:39
louis^how?02:39
hatake_kakashisudo psotnic /usr/bin/conf.hub02:39
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~$ [-]  Failed to load config02:39
samourabash: [-] : command not found02:39
CheeseBurgerManlol, thanks hatake_kakashi02:39
hatake_kakashinp CheeseBurgerMan02:39
ltmonDoes anyone know where i can get a package for Amarok 1.4b1 for Dapper that has been compiled with ipod support?02:39
samourahateke-kakashi please help me on #samoura channal02:40
hatake_kakashilouis^: I think its glxgears -showfps but you need to type that in konsole and wait for a few seconds because it will output it afterwards02:40
louis^k02:40
samourahateke-kakashi please help me on #samoura channal02:40
hatake_kakashisamoura: no.. I'll only help in here, I'm already in far too many channels02:40
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hatake_kakashilouis^: err try -printfps02:41
louis^k02:41
samourahateke-kakashi can you help than?02:41
hatake_kakashisamoura: not really, I can probably try02:41
samourahttp://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page02:41
ltmonlouis^:glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark02:41
louis^...02:42
samourahttp://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php read it it is there i am reading and trying folow after02:42
louis^glxgears -showfps02:42
louis^oot@Louis-Philippe:/etc/X11# glxgears -printfps02:42
louis^Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server02:42
louis^Xlib: No protocol specified02:42
louis^Error: couldn't open display :0.002:42
louis^root@Louis-Philippe:/etc/X11#02:42
CheeseBurgerManman glxgears. ;)02:42
ltmoni'm not being facetious louis^ .... that's a real option !! :)02:42
hatake_kakashilouis^: you are running it as super-user, you are supposed to run it as you own user account, the one thats logged into the Xorg server02:43
louis^k02:43
hatake_kakashisamoura: did you properly config your config file?02:43
hatake_kakashis/you/your02:43
louis^louis@Louis-Philippe:~$ glxgears -printfps02:43
louis^1047 frames in 5.0 seconds = 207.508 FPS02:43
louis^thanks!02:43
hatake_kakashinp02:43
hatake_kakashiltmon: amazing, that also works too :)02:43
samourai don even know how to confuger02:44
samouratell me please02:44
louis^hihi02:44
samoura;S02:44
louis^i'll reboot, in order to reboot my X server :)02:44
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hatake_kakashisamoura: its been explained on that url you have pasted02:44
louis^i ajusted my ati drivers02:44
CheeseBurgerManlouis^: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace02:44
ltmonhatake_kakashi: Yeah... i think it's some X developer getting sick of people using the fps as some kind of graphics card bench02:44
CheeseBurgerManrestarts the X server.02:44
hatake_kakashilouis^: you don't have to reboot your computer just to do that02:44
samourai don understand "I am new in linux" komon02:44
hatake_kakashiltmon: yeah I heard about that, but apparently -printfps also works :)02:44
ltmonhatake_kakashi: yes... but it isn't as fun02:45
samourahow do i do this just tell me i extracted all the fails in desktop02:45
samoura /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.702:45
hatake_kakashisamoura: that's no real excuse, even if you are new you are supposed to learn. Open the config file with your favourite editor and adjust it to your taste according to that site02:45
hatake_kakashiltmon: heh, either way :)02:46
samouraokei02:46
samourayou mean that02:46
CheeseBurgerManSection 1 tells you the options you can put in.02:46
samouraop en up the config and write a password ?02:47
ryanakcais there a howto on making cron run "apt-get update" hourly?02:47
ryanakcakcron doesn't really help...02:47
CheeseBurgerMansamoura: Section 1 give you the options you can use02:47
hatake_kakashiryanakca: the site I posted before didn't help?02:47
CheeseBurgerMansorry ryanakca, I'm still in the beginner stages of learning. ;)02:48
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ryanakcano...02:48
raphinkpfiew, it went all over the place02:48
samouraokei i have confugerd the config what than?02:48
hatake_kakashiI can't imagine why not02:48
ryanakcaI need it to run as root...02:49
samouraop en up the config and write a password ?02:49
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hatake_kakashiryanakca: you can't run apt-get as normal user02:49
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ryanakcaobviously02:50
hatake_kakashiunless if you do suid, etc02:50
samourahateke okei have confugerd what than02:50
samourahateke okei have confugerd what than02:50
hatake_kakashiyou get root to add it into the cron themself02:50
samourawhot?02:50
Hobbseeraphink: hehe - i shoulda defenestrated it from a high window02:50
Hobbseebut it does work, with windows02:50
samourahateke okei have confugerd what than02:51
raphinkHobbsee: what kind of printer is it?02:51
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hatake_kakashisamoura: actually, I think you are supposed to make a config file from scratch. Does hub.conf look similar to the one on the website? if not then you need to make one from scratch02:51
raphinkHobbsee: sure, defenestrating works with windows ;)02:51
Hobbseehehe02:51
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samourahow?02:51
raphinkHobbsee: still didn't try the ssh ?02:51
ryanakcaI'm confusled02:51
samourahow?02:52
Hobbseeraphink: no, i didnt - i reinstalled since then, so i dont have the commands02:52
Hobbseeand i havent had anything to build02:52
raphinkHobbsee: ok02:52
raphinkHobbsee: keep in mind that whenver you want, you can access my machine for a build02:52
Hobbseeok :) thanks02:52
raphinkit's all set02:52
samourasamoura: actually, I think you are supposed to make a config file from scratch. Does hub.conf look similar to the one on the website? if not then you need to make one from scratch  all i hear is blabla la what is scratch ?02:52
fatejudgerI'm having trouble mounting samba drives on boot02:52
fatejudgerthe drive tries to get mounted before Samba is loaded02:53
fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to get around this?02:53
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hatake_kakashisamoura: have you tried asking your questions on that web irc link?02:55
samouraweb irk link02:55
samourain what channal?02:55
hatake_kakashidunno, it there is a link of it on the url02:56
CheeseBurgerManDunno - it's a javascript link.02:56
hatake_kakashiyeah, you need java02:56
CheeseBurgerManlook in the forums, there's probably a thread that shows the info.02:57
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hatake_kakashiyeah that too02:57
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samoura First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'.03:12
samourahow do i do this?03:13
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fatejudgeranyone know of a good alternative to VMWare for KDE?03:17
stonednone are worth it03:19
stonedvmware is it03:19
stonedit is*03:19
samoura First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'.  Hwo to this pleas help03:19
samoura First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'.  Hwo to this pleas help03:19
stonedhey man03:19
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nataswould anyone recommend a gui prog for firewalling on  kubuntu?03:20
stonednatas, i would, but its better to learn iptables, THEN find a gui, with a supposition that you don't know iptalbes, if you do, there a bunch of them that get installed when you install full kubuntu.  or you can check 'apt-cache search kde|grep fire'03:21
natashehe03:22
natasnot sure if i have my apt-get setup or it should be by default?03:23
natasdid that with sudo - nothing came up03:25
stonedhuh?03:25
CheeseBurgerManapt is setup by default03:25
stonedoh thats what hes askin03:25
CheeseBurgerManI think so.03:26
stonedman people need to TRY and use better sentence structure and grammar03:26
CheeseBurgerManlol03:26
stonedi can't decipher all this shit03:26
CheeseBurgerManI know it.03:26
CheeseBurgerManPractice makes perfect though. ;)03:26
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stonednatas, just type what i said, dont' worry about sudo.  when you find the package in the list, then use sudo apt-get install package03:27
KaoticEvilhey all :)03:27
stonedevil is not cool03:27
stonedchaos is even more uncool03:27
KaoticEvillol03:27
stonedI like order, and good03:27
KaoticEvilim not really Kaotic or Evil...03:27
nataswell i did it in terminal - no list showed up03:27
CheeseBurgerManYeah, just like I don't really like cheeseburgers. ;)03:27
natasi dont have any package manager open so i dont know why nothing came up03:27
stonednatas, what did you type?03:28
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natasapt-cache search kde|grep fire03:28
natasthat03:28
KaoticEvili just got a new keyboard... and its a multimedia keyboard...03:28
Mabus06I'm brand new to kubuntu, but I've used ubuntu a while.. how do you change the screen resolution in kubuntu?03:28
CheeseBurgerManOooh. lemme guess the problem.03:28
natasopened new terminal window03:28
stonedwell03:28
stonedi guess no packages exist then03:28
CheeseBurgerManThe multimedia keys don't work. ;)03:28
KaoticEvillol CheeseBurgerMan03:28
KaoticEvilexactly ;)03:28
CheeseBurgerMan:P03:28
KaoticEviljust need a starting point where to look03:28
natassame thing03:28
Mabus06Just noticed that too, now that you mention it.03:28
natashow is that possible with installed apps?03:29
Mabus06They worked with ubuntu, not with kubuntu.03:29
stonednatas, you can do apt-cache search firewall03:29
stonedor better yet03:29
CheeseBurgerManKaoticEvil: I actually haven't a clue how to fix it - that was just a guess. :P03:29
__mikemIs there any way to get ubuntu to run faster under vmware03:29
natasok03:29
KaoticEvillol CheeseBurgerMan... thanks :P03:29
CheeseBurgerManNo problem. ;)03:29
KaoticEvilheh03:29
natasshorewall i will try03:29
stonedi know there are like two or three kde firewall gui's that get installed03:29
stonedi can't remember thier name03:29
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stonedwell i guess there aren't any03:30
natashmm03:30
stonedyou can google for one03:30
natasiwill03:30
stonedi know there are some in kde03:30
samoura First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'.  Hwo to this pleas help03:30
callieFirestarter?03:30
CheeseBurgerManKaoticEvil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133610&highlight=multimedia03:31
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stonedyes03:31
stonedfirestarter, kfirewall03:31
callie!firestarter03:31
natashttp://www.webmin.com/download/modules/shorewall.wbm.gz03:31
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.03:31
KaoticEvilone problem tho...03:31
KaoticEvilwill X recognize the extra keys?03:31
stonedbut i still say you should learn iptables03:31
KaoticEvilmy old one was only a 104 key03:32
stonedKaoticEvil, i actually just added a factoid about that03:32
stoned:)03:32
callieiptables are solid03:32
stoned!keytouch03:32
uboturumour has it, keytouch is http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - KeyTouch is a program which allows you to easily configure the extra function keys of your INTERNET/MULTIMEDIA ready keyboard. Ubuntu packages available.03:32
natasi know a little about iptables - and that is - copy everything mostly and fill in ip's with what you want03:32
calliei still dont fully get iptables, maybe one day03:32
CheeseBurgerManAh, but is it a true rumor. ;)03:32
natasip's / ports03:32
KaoticEvilthanks stoned :)03:32
stonedsure03:32
natasbut i find that there are differences between progs for firewall & actual iptables rules03:33
natasthat is the confusing part03:33
KaoticEvili found the same link here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaKeys?action=show&redirect=MultimediaKeysHowto03:33
calliehow does being stoned and linux mix?03:33
stonedKaoticEvil, don't use 2.1 beta, it will crash your X.  use only the stable older 2.0 keytouch03:33
KaoticEvilok, will do03:33
stonedKaoticEvil, you will also have to install keytouch editor03:33
stonedKaoticEvil, and it is well documented as to how to setup your keyboard03:34
stonedif you have any trouble, i can help you with it, I spent a good solid 2 days on it with 3 diff keyboards03:34
stonedbut if you can read and follow directions and think, you're good to go03:34
KaoticEvillol03:35
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stoned'man woman'03:35
KaoticEvilwell, i had a similar issue on a previous distro...03:35
stonedand also, another program should be called woman03:35
stonedthe counterpart for man03:35
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KaoticEvilthe only difference was that the multimedia keyboard was attached from the start, so it was easier :P03:35
callielol03:35
KaoticEvilstoned: what about X? will it see the new keys?03:36
CheeseBurgerManyeah "woman chmod" - that'll make chmod more fun. :P03:36
KaoticEvil:))03:36
stonedyou can modity the source for make, and edit a few strings, recompile, then type 'make love' and if you can think, it should say 'can't make love, too many arguments'03:36
CheeseBurgerManlol03:36
KaoticEvilor will i need to modify the conf file for it?03:36
stonedKaoticEvil, yes03:36
stonedKaoticEvil, only use keytouch, thats all03:36
KaoticEvilsweet :>03:36
stonedKaoticEvil, btw, when you get done generating the keyboard file for your keyboard, keep in mind that the keyboard file should be named after MODEL.MANUFACTURER. for example if i have an HP H7389 keyboard, I would name the file H7389.HP and place it manually in /usr/share/keytouch/keyboards/03:38
stonedKaoticEvil, make sure the file name corresponds to the manufac. and model in the generated XML file03:38
KaoticEvilwill do03:39
stoneddon't use dashes/slashes/weird characters anywhere either03:39
KaoticEvilgood thing i tore the model number slip off the box before i threw it in the trash ;)03:39
CheeseBurgerManhehe03:39
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stonedafter you get done, please send your generated keyboard file to the author of keytouch so he can add that to the list03:40
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KaoticEvilstoned: i will do :)03:43
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Mabus06Can somebody please tell me how to set the screen resolution?03:46
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CheeseBurgerManControl Center > Peripherals > Display03:46
tristanmikeMabus06, right click desktop-Configure Desktop-Display03:46
CheeseBurgerManoh03:46
tristanmikeor that way03:46
CheeseBurgerManyeah, you COULD do it the easy way. ;)03:47
tristanmikelol03:47
Mabus06tristanmike: it's not in settings?03:47
Mabus06Okay, thanks.03:47
nataseasiest way to vnc - install vnc ?03:47
stonednatas, sudo apt-get install xtightvncserver xtigntvncviewer03:48
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stoneddoh03:48
stonedtightvncserver03:48
McScruffdoes anyone use amsn?03:48
stonedfuck no03:48
McScruffgrr03:48
tristanmikeHA!03:48
callielol03:48
McScruffi cant get the music plugin working03:48
tristanmikereally don't like it eh, stoned ?03:48
natashehe03:48
natasok03:49
stonedi can't dig micsoft03:49
lampshadeI'm not actually running kubuntu, but an ubuntu install that I added KDE to (technically the KDE-base with apt)  I was wondering, is there a weather applet I can install like the one you can choose in gnome?  So that a little sun and the temp are shown in my tray?03:49
stonednot becuause of the MS hate bandwagon03:49
stonedmostly because its useless03:49
callielampshade, try Superkaramba with liquid weather03:49
tristanmikeand mostly just cause you should, :P03:49
callie!superkaramba03:49
ubotuSuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org03:49
stonedi never can get this damn karamba thing to work03:50
tristanmikelampshade, yes, superkaramba is cool, but there's a simple "kweather" applet03:50
natassaid couldnt find package03:50
stonednatas, dude, learn apt.  apt-cache search vncserver03:50
stonedor sudo apt-get install vncserver xtightvncviewer03:50
callielampshade, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=638403:50
natasi did that with vnc03:50
stonedthen vncserver -depth 24 -geometry 800x600 or whatever else you want03:51
Mronohi03:51
natasand i got krdc - krfb and libvncathauth-dev - libvncauth003:51
callieim a semi noob and i managed to get superkaramba working nicely03:51
stonednatas, what are you trying to do?>03:51
natastrying to vnc to this box03:51
stonedcallie, mostly becuase i hate bloatware, with the exception of the kde-core i don't evne use full kubuntu03:52
stonednatas, what is the other box running as os03:52
KaoticEvilok... well, stoned and CheeseBurgerMan... thanks for the help :)03:52
natasos x - i have some vnc prog03:52
stonednatas, you don't need to do that03:53
CheeseBurgerManNP..even though i didn't help. ;)03:53
natasok03:53
KaoticEvilim sure i will be back if u run into another question...03:53
stonedos x runs an x server and has ssh installed by default03:53
natasyep03:53
natasso can do from terminal or something03:53
CellarDoorI dumped Windows from my computer altogether in 2004, no regrets.03:53
KaoticEvilright now, ive got to go reconfigure my network... gotta get windows and linux networking again happily...03:54
Mabus06Can you make it like GNOME where each workspace has it's own taskbar?03:54
KaoticEvilpeace yall :-)03:54
Mabus06The whole point of workspaces, for me, is so I can have many windows open with low resolution.03:54
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natasonly reason i cannot dump winedows is games - and once all games go to vista - i may give up gaming besides console - which will suck - i think i will still play wow though03:54
stonedall you need to do is ssh -X login@osx.ip.here, then enter the password for the user that exists on os x, once you are logged into the os x box, run an X11 app and it should show up on your monitor03:54
nataswell im trying to do the opposite - so it should still work the other way around i just have to do it through x11 app?03:55
stonedyou are on osx wanting to log into linux and run linux apps?03:55
natasyes03:55
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stonedthe same should hold true03:55
nataslinux is gonna be my firewall/router - without display03:55
stoneddoesn't matter if osx is bsd based or not, it still uses x1103:55
natasi wonder - can linux use x11 vnc session without video card or no?03:56
stonedso i dunno, you can try ssh -X into linux FROM osx and run an xterm & and see whats going on03:56
natassince im not going to have monitor hooked up to it anyway03:56
stonedyes03:56
natasthat would be cool03:56
stonedwait03:56
stoneduse one line man03:56
stonedconfusing me n shit :/03:56
natasok03:57
stonedunless you have onboard video on the motherboard03:58
stonedif there is no onboard video, you will need a gfx card03:58
Mronohey03:58
stonedfor that for can get a cheap 20$ 32mb video card03:59
Mronohow do I move stuff around on the taskbar03:59
stonedand anything linux, go with nvidia03:59
stonedMrono, right lick, select move item, and just move it03:59
natasok i dont have onboard so im stuck ;) no biggi though03:59
Mronoit's the system tray03:59
Mronoso when i right click on it03:59
Mronoit brings up the menu for that item03:59
stonedMrono, move the mouse around in the immediate area surrounding the systray, you should see a small black arrow , click it, and then select move04:00
Mronooh right04:00
MronoI turned those off04:00
stonedturn those back on04:00
stonedput them on fade out04:00
Mronoyeah04:00
stonedi like to have those as divisors on my panel04:00
stonedmakes it easy for me04:01
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natasdo i have to log in as root or i should be able to log in as user?04:01
natasi tried user and it said connection refused04:02
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stonednatas, is sshd running on linux? is /etc/ssh/sshd_config configured with X11Forwarding On or whatever th eoptin it.  look through there and enable it04:02
natask i will04:03
stonednatas, you have to login with the username/password that exists on linux machine, NOT on osx04:03
natasi know that much - im guessing its that x11 config on the linux machine04:04
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stonednatas, x11 on my broken scren laptop is not configured, only x-window-system-core is installed, I login with ssh -X user@laptop and i run any app i want04:05
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stonedif you have a connection refused, tell me where you get it04:06
stonedis the linux not able to connect to the X11 server04:06
stonedor are you able to login with ssh04:06
natasi tried ssh as well said refused as well04:07
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stonedhmm04:08
stonedi dunno your setup, but I do that with my osx box and debian sid04:09
natasthere is no firewall running by default ?04:09
stonedyou should check your osx settings04:09
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natasi disabled on os x---04:09
stonedyou should look on osx/linux networking on google04:09
natassame thing - error message points to auth on linux04:09
stonedirc support should really be your last avenue, after you have exhausted all other means04:10
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natassome reason i dont think ssh was installed ; X04:11
natasi just installed it now going to try04:11
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natasok i connected now - but how do i pull up a gui?04:12
fatejudgerfor some reason my volume seems really low04:20
CheeseBurgerManUse KMix.04:20
fatejudgerhas there been some weird update to alsa?04:20
fatejudgerCheeseBurgerMan: no shit04:20
fatejudgerlol04:20
natasping04:20
CheeseBurgerMan:P04:20
fatejudgerI think it's some ALSA update in Dapper04:22
CheeseBurgerManAh, Dapper04:22
CheeseBurgerMan;)04:22
lampshadeugh, I don't think I have a weather station for my city :-/  how bout that...... damn Nebraska04:23
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tristanmikelampshade, i thought that too, just play with it, you should get it. My town is really obscure and I ended up getting it04:26
tristanmikeIs it possible to change the icon that Katapult associates with any given program/application?04:28
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MronoHI!04:36
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Mronohey05:02
Mronowhere can I get an amarok controller05:02
Hobbseean amarok controller?  as in what?05:02
Mronosomething that sits on your desktop and controls amarok05:04
Hobbseeah05:04
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Hobbseewell, there are shortcut keys that you can set in amarok, if you want to do it that way.  otherwise, i'd say you're looking at a superkaramba theme05:04
Mronoah05:05
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reidif i install all of the Kubuntu extras (the graphics, toys, wallpapers ,ect) will it slow it down?05:05
kubby510im having a lot of trouble with hotplug, can anyone help me?05:06
Steven_Mdoes anyone here use aptitude?05:06
farous Steven_M what is your question05:06
kubby510hotplug wont load at startup05:07
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kubby510and it wont load when i try to start it in the services menu either...05:07
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slloydhello, I am a newbie. Can anyone tell me when the next version of kubuntu (dapper) will be out?05:08
Steven_Mfarous: typing it out now05:08
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Hobbseeslloyd: 20 april 200605:10
kubby510anyone know much about hotplug?05:10
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Steven_Mfarous: Cedega, is recogised as being installed in adept, but it's not on aptitude's list. I installed Cedega from a local .deb file (not from a repository) does anyone know how to make aptitude find it?05:10
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slloydthanks hobsee, are there instructions somewhere about how to upgrade from breezy to dapper?05:10
Hobbseeslloyd: are you sure you want to?  it can be quite buggy05:11
farousSteven_M: that is a prob with aptitude it keeps a seperate list than dpkg and apt-get05:11
Hobbsee!upgrade2breezy05:11
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:11
Hobbseesubstitute breezy for dapper in that guide05:11
slloydthank you very much05:11
Hobbseeslloyd: if you're new to linux, you probably want to wait a while05:11
slloydnot new to linux per se, just to ubuntu I have always used rpm based distros before (mandrake)05:12
farousi am afraid though i do not know a work around. You are luck aptitude wants to uninstall my custom fglrx driver every time i run it05:12
slloydI am still getting used to the whole apt thing - but it is very cool, wey better way to upgrade05:13
Hobbseetrue05:13
farousslloyd: dapper was highly unstable on my test notebook05:13
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farousand once you upgrade you can not down grade05:13
slloydre: dapper unstable - I am using a ibook g4 and ubuntu has worked no problem05:13
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slloydoh :-( you can't do a roll-back if there is a problem?05:14
Hobbseefarous: without reinstalling05:14
Hobbseeslloyd: it'd be like going from...mandrake 7 to mandrake 8 or something05:14
Hobbseewhatever the version numbers are, i dont remember...05:14
farousHobbsee: ? reinstalling is not rolling back05:14
slloydah, so wait and see. Good to know. How will I know when the best time to upgrade is?05:15
GameOver69anyone can tell me how to install azureus 2.4 possibly in the same light u can install firefox 1.5 from the ubuntu wiki?05:15
Hobbseefarous: well...yeah...but it is a way to get back to the previous version05:15
Hobbseeslloyd: when a lot of people do, probably in a couple of months05:15
Hobbsee!azureus05:15
ubotuazureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo05:15
Hobbseelike that?05:15
farousHobbsee: agree. yet it was my test pc. a fresh breezy install then an upgrade. whenever i ifup the ethernet the whole pc freeze05:15
slloyda couple of months after the official release or from now/05:15
LeeJunFanonly problem I have with dapper is that kde and cups don't cooperate.05:16
Hobbseefarous: ah yuck, i get that when i pull my wireless driver out05:16
HobbseeLeeJunFan: even if you ignore the warning?05:16
GameOver69Hobbsee, i was wondering about the enwesst release05:16
GameOver692.405:16
GameOver69thats the old relase05:16
GameOver69and for some reason u cant update it properly05:16
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LeeJunFanHobbsee: no warning, it simply tells me it can't talk to cups server.05:16
slloydWell, thanks again all, I guess I will check back here when the official release for dapper comes out.05:17
farousslloyd: install breezy its rock stable. Wait till the official release of dapper is out than enjoy the ride. Coming from Mandrake 9.0 , 10. myself05:17
Hobbseetoo late lol05:18
Steven_Mfarous: in that case is there a way to do a purge with adept? All I get from Adept is a remove button.05:18
HobbseeGameOver69: compile it yourself, i think - debian doesnt have a newer version than that05:18
farousyah too late :)05:18
GameOver69i dont know how to compile05:18
GameOver69:(05:18
Hobbsee!compile05:19
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware05:19
GameOver69but besides that i mean.... in the wiki... u can put in firefox easily... and update it and everything..... i was wondering if i could do the same thing iwth azureus05:19
farousSteven_M: sorry i do not use adept. I mainly use aptitude for package management05:19
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farousform the command line05:19
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LeeJunFanWhat I don't get is why people get mad when an unstable version is um, well, unstable.05:19
HobbseeGameOver69: i doubt it, it's packaged completely differently i expect05:19
HobbseeLeeJunFan: hehe yeah.  i dont either05:19
HobbseeLeeJunFan: you use dapper, right?  do you use kopete at all?05:20
Nomad411!dapper05:20
farousLeeJunFan: :) i guess you can just smile05:20
LeeJunFanHobbsee: I don't use dapper very often, I need to be able to print too much. :)05:20
Hobbseeok05:20
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fatejudgeris there kaffeine-gstreamer for Dapper?05:20
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Steven_Mfarous: so do have any idea how to purge this package?05:21
farousSteven_M: which package you wana purge05:21
HobbseeSteven_M: apt-get remove --purge packag05:21
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Hobbseee05:21
LeeJunFanHobbsee: I've got 2 / partitions on my laptop, one for stable install one for devel (to play). Most of the time I do okay with devel releases, I can get by with things not working right for a day or week, but the dapper printing thing puts a big kink in things for me.05:21
faroussudo apt-get remove05:21
GameOver69sorry i exited by accident05:21
HobbseeLeeJunFan: definetly, that's what i tend to do as well, before i moved to dapper full time05:22
farousHobbsee: much faster than me. I need some time to compile the question ;)05:22
Hobbseehehe05:22
LeeJunFanI am running 3.5.1 on breezy with kopete.05:22
Mronohmmm05:22
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fatejudgerwtf, gstreamer isn't installed at all in Dapper Flight 4?05:22
Mronoweird05:22
MronoI am getting alot of cpu usage05:23
Mrono40%05:23
Mronojust sitting there05:23
GameOver69so how can i install the new amorak... my understanding u need the latest beta build of dapper?05:23
LeeJunFanfatejudger: there was a move to xine instead.05:23
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: really, why?05:24
HobbseeGameOver69: looks like you can get 1.3.8 on breezy.  you do need dapper if you want 1.4 beta105:24
farousLeeJunFan: do you know if they are going with the network manager?05:24
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: xine video sucks, I can't even fast forward05:24
GameOver69Hobbsee, is there anyway i can download dapper through apt-get... im too cheap to burn it to cd?05:24
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: at least over the network05:24
Steven_Mfarous: my cedega package the one I installed from a loacal .deb file that aptitude can't find.05:24
Hobbseefarous: in dapper?  network manager is having problems, i'm not sure if they're putting it in, knetworkmanager requires lots of things from cvs05:24
HobbseeGameOver69: if you want to, but expect lots of bugs05:25
farousSteven_M: as Hobbsee said use apt-get remove --purge <package name>05:25
GameOver69Hobbsee, how buggy we talkin about?05:25
LeeJunFanfatejudger: I dunno what the reasoning was, but I was never able to get gstreamer to work so I've always used xine.05:25
farousHobbsee: ok i guess that is what keep breaking my notebook then thanks Hobbsee05:26
Hobbseehehe05:26
Hobbseecould well be, i dont konw05:26
fatejudgerI can't even hear anything in Xine05:27
LeeJunFanAnyone else not able to suspend to RAM with "official" [sic. crap]  ATI drivers.05:27
LeeJunFan?05:27
fatejudgerand there's this stupid delay between you turning down the volume and it actually going down05:28
farousLeeJunFan: i can not do it here neither with the opensource drivers or the prop ones05:28
GameOver69Hobbsee, ?05:28
farousand i gave up on it totally. Not a big deal for me here05:28
Steven_Mfarous: is there a way I can confirm what the exact package name is?05:28
HobbseeGameOver69: different people have different levels of buggyness - they say it's not for production machines05:28
farousSteven_M: search for it in adept05:28
LeeJunFanfarous: hrm, the opensource ones allow me to, the prop ones will resume to a fubar display.05:29
farousSteven_M: i prefer synaptic myself05:29
GameOver69Hobbsee, what do u mean production machines?05:29
Hobbseeones that you have to do work on and work all the time05:29
Hobbseemake sure you know how to troubleshoot a network - seems to be lots of fun problems there05:29
fatejudgerI see what's going on, Xine doesn't have smb:/ support05:30
farousLeeJunFan: hybernate suspend to ram sleep all break my sys here. As i said though on my laptop i have no problems shutting down and turning on again05:30
fatejudgeris there any way to get that?05:30
farousbreak sys = does not work properly05:30
LeeJunFanfatejudger: I guess what works for one doesn't work for all. heh. xine is flawless for me.05:30
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: even over smb:// ?05:30
Mronooh I know what it was05:30
Steven_Mfarous: ok thanks for your help, and for yours Hobbsee :-)05:30
GameOver69ok well how do u download the latest build through adept?05:30
Mronoit was superkaramba05:30
Hobbsee:)05:30
farous:)05:31
Mronosuperkaramba was sucking up my sys resources05:31
Hobbseeah yes, that's normal05:31
LeeJunFanfatejudger: I haven't used it over smb in a long time, but I cant imagine why that would cause your volume delay even so.05:31
Hobbseeit likes doing that05:31
Mronodamn you brenden05:31
Hobbseemind you, so does a pbuilder :P05:31
MronoI hought you were going to help me rebuild my kernal05:31
LeeJunFanMrono: yeah, superkaramba == cpu monitor that uses all your cpu time.05:32
Mronolol05:32
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LeeJunFanMrono: it's not that bad with certain themes though.05:32
farousMrono: i use some gdesklets does not consume as much05:32
farousdepends why you use them anyway05:32
Mronohmmm05:32
Mronogdesklets05:32
Mrononever heard of em05:32
farousdo not know if it will work on kde though05:32
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MronoGTK+ might work05:33
LeeJunFangkrellm works fine for me. May not be the prettiest but it doesn't turn my fans into scramjets either.05:33
farousgkrellm working fine here too. have all what i need. gdesklets just for the weather. My demands are not heavy for eye candys05:34
Mronounfortunately I am05:35
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GullyFoyleamarok won't start, gives me error about no sound engine plugins05:35
GameOver69anyone know how to install the latest dapper build through apt-get or some other way wtihout burning to cd?05:35
farous!dapper05:36
farous!+dapper05:36
ubotumethinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it, or use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates05:36
HobbseeGullyFoyle: apt-get install amarok-xine05:36
GullyFoyleHobbsee: i already did that. i also installed gstreamer etc..05:37
farousGameOver69: basically change breezy to dapper in your sources.list file05:37
Hobbseeah ok05:37
GameOver69anyone in particular?05:37
GameOver69or all of them05:37
LeeJunFanEye candy comes a a price, there's a reason there wasn't eye candy on C= vic 20's you know :)05:38
Hobbseenow that's cool!  the update05:38
Hobbseer05:38
farousGameOver69: i do not know which repos you have but i did them all05:38
GameOver69farous, and how does dapper work for u?05:39
farousGameOver69: it is broken here05:39
GameOver69farous, so its not worth to upgrade yet?05:39
farousothers had  better luck so it is a chancy decision05:39
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HobbseeGameOver69: works mostly here, ndiswrapper is borked, there's lots of fun wireless trouble at the moment.05:39
Hobbseeoh, and checkinstall is borked as well05:40
farousGameOver69: people upgrade to test it. They know it is not stable so they normally do that on a spare machine05:40
Hobbseefarous: well...smart people do hehe....05:40
farousHobbsee: :)05:40
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Hobbsee:P05:40
fatejudgerCUPS is broken05:40
GameOver69hmmm... well i already have problems with ndis  wrapper05:40
GameOver69like my wireless card never starting up with it05:41
GameOver69 i have to always dhclient05:41
farousGameOver69: do not think your problems will be easier if you upgrade. Most probably they will get worse05:41
farousand frankly i find the ethernet here more reliable. Though my card has an open source drive. Wireless is just too much troubles05:42
GameOver69great... how come they just cant release something easy.... like for instance in windows were u can select the network.. and put in your wep key if needed05:42
HobbseeGameOver69: new version of ndiswrapper may well fix that05:42
HobbseeGameOver69: it's kwifimanager - doesnt seem to work too well.  also, the network manager in system settings05:43
GameOver69Hobbsee, theres a new version????? or ur just saying a new version when it comes out might fix it05:43
farousGameOver69: install network manager works perfect with breezy05:43
GameOver69Hobbsee, yea i know... it doesnt work well05:43
GameOver69network manager?... thats a package in adept05:43
farousnetwork-manager05:44
farousthough it breaks if you upgrade to dapper now ;)05:44
Steven_Mfarous: are you still there?05:44
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farousSteven_M: here my friend05:44
GameOver69ok installing now05:44
GameOver69i hope it works05:44
farous!+networkmanager05:45
ubotufrom memory, networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto05:45
farousGameOver69: ^   ^ read the howto05:45
farousthere is a setting you need to make to load it05:45
Hobbseedoesnt that only work with gnome though?05:45
Steven_MI seemed to have problems, follow this link to see complete output05:46
farousHobbsee: worked with me under fluxbox. hmm do not know about kde. GameOver69 better check the howto before installing05:46
Hobbseeah ok05:46
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Steven_Mfarous: http://pastebin.com/57147705:47
tristanmikeHow can I make Katapult aware of a program?05:47
Hobbseetristanmike: killall katapult, katapult05:48
farousSteven_M: are you hooked up to the net05:48
Steven_Myeah05:48
farousok type sudo aptitude update05:49
farousyou just need to reload the package list05:49
tristanmikeHobbsee, cool, thanx05:49
farousnot a big problem05:49
Steven_Mfarous: why's that?05:50
farousand from the post you sent it removed the package05:50
farousSteven_M: i guess you have not done that for a while05:50
fatejudgerdoes anyone have CUPS working in Dapper?05:50
fatejudgerKDE doesn't seem to be able to communicate with the CUPS server05:50
Hobbseelet me try...05:50
farousSteven_M: ande that is in case new package lists are added to the repos. or new updates are available05:50
Hobbseehow to reproduce - just add a printer?05:50
LeeJunFanHobbsee: just open the printer manager should be enough.05:51
faroushmm can you connect to it through konquer or firefox05:51
Hobbseeno errors here05:52
farouslocalhost:631 if i remember correctly05:52
Hobbseetrying to add a printer05:52
Steven_Mfarous: but I didn't download cedega with apt-get, it was from a 33rd party .deb file.05:52
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Hobbseeslow though05:52
Steven_MI mean 3rd05:52
farousSteven_M: apt-get checks for new software or updates on the mirrors on the net when you run it automatically05:53
farousSteven_M: so it is not specific to the cedega package you removed05:53
Steven_Mfarous: oh ok, sorry I'm fairly new05:54
farousSteven_M: no problem my friend05:54
HobbseeLeeJunFan: freeflying:  it seems ok, i just added a printer thru the control centre, with no problems.  it says it's using CUPS05:55
LeeJunFanHobbsee: did you add it with a kde app like thru kcontrol->peripherals->printers?05:55
HobbseeLeeJunFan: yep, that's exactly how i did it05:56
LeeJunFanHobbsee: interesting, I tried just yesterday and it still wasn't working. At the bottom right of the printer control screen in kcontrol it should say how it's connected to cups - do you have localhost:631 or /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631?05:57
Hobbseeserver:  localhost:63105:58
fatejudgerhmm05:58
Hobbseedid you want a screenshot of what i see, or what?05:58
fatejudgerlet me change mine to that05:58
Mronoman05:58
LeeJunFanHobbsee: that's what mine is set to also. just a min, lemme boot to dapper and do updates.05:59
MronoI really don't want to be running my processor so high05:59
Mronobut I want ym widgets05:59
Hobbseei've never changed mine - it worked out of the box05:59
fatejudgerHobbsee: Flight 4?05:59
Hobbseefatejudger: flight 1, then updated.  both times05:59
fatejudgerHobbsee: I think the problem was post Flight 106:00
Hobbseeah ok...06:00
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fatejudgerHobbsee: someone probably had a little brain fart and change the path by accident06:00
Hobbseelol06:00
fatejudgerhmm, it's still not working06:01
fatejudgerprinting seems to get very little priority06:01
fatejudgerit's sad06:01
Hobbseeit is06:02
fatejudgerI like the new login screen though06:02
fatejudgerthat's pretty cool06:02
Hobbseefigure it out and write a patch?06:02
fatejudgerheh06:02
Hobbseeindeed06:02
fatejudgerI'm not that good06:02
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fatejudgerHobbsee: you can code?06:02
Hobbseenope06:02
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Hobbseenot yet, anyway06:03
Hobbseefatejudger: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/1966106:03
fatejudgerHobbsee: lol06:03
Hobbseei'm doing some programming in my uni degree06:03
Steven_Mfarous: I'm updating the package now06:03
Hobbseeso hopefully after that, i'll be able to do more...06:03
GameOver69that network manager never connects06:03
farousSteven_M: cool06:04
fatejudgerHobbsee: so you have to build a couple of packages then?06:04
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Steven_M*package list06:04
Hobbseefatejudger: yeah, the entire kdenetwork06:04
Mronohow do I get stuff to boot up with login06:04
fatejudgerHobbsee: and you know how to do that?06:04
farousGameOver69: did you check if it is not the router?06:04
fatejudgerHobbsee: I've never taken the time to learn how to build debian packages by hand06:04
LeeJunFanwell, I still don't seem to be able to print but some funky other stuff happened. Apparently Xorg now supports glx with ATI native?06:04
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: ?06:05
GameOver69well i was connected b406:05
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: you mean fglrx?06:05
GameOver69this disconnected me06:05
farousin a term type iwlist <wlan0 O eth1 > scan06:05
LeeJunFanfatejudger: yeah.06:05
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: it has for awhile06:05
GameOver69asks me for my password... and never connects06:05
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: months06:05
LeeJunFanfatejudger: not for me until just now.06:05
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: you probably had some conflicting driver06:05
farousGameOver69: did you reboot06:05
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: I did06:05
farousin the howto it say you have too06:06
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: it was the Seveas repo06:06
GameOver69no06:06
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: a fresh Dapper install fixed it though06:06
GameOver69it detected my connections just never logged in06:06
LeeJunFanfatejudger: I only have standard ubuntu repos. My own kernel compiled vanilla, only external driver is madwifi-ng and I haven't changed that stuff in months.06:06
farousGameOver69: i remember they said you need to reboot to activate some services try that06:06
LeeJunFanfatejudger: owell, cool anyway.06:07
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: are you going to try and fix CUPS?06:07
LeeJunFanall my fonts are huge now though. hehe06:07
GameOver69alright doesnt hurt i guess....alright then i can just add that to my start uo script and it shoudl work withiout having to dhclient and iwconfig all the time?06:07
farousfatejudger: seveas have 3-d accel for the open ati drivers in his repos?06:07
fatejudgerfarous: no, he has fgrlx drivers for Breezy06:07
Steven_Mfarous: apart from that are you sure cedega was purged properly?06:07
Hobbseefatejudger: ah yeah, i hate that - only done that once, and it didnt work properly06:07
LeeJunFanHobbsee: did you get any error at all?06:08
Hobbseebut i do upgrading bits, and changing bits - just not from scratch06:08
farousfatejudger: ok.06:08
farousSteven_M: you can check using synaptic or adept06:08
HobbseeLeeJunFan: for which?  cups?  i did the first time i installed, and just hit ok06:08
Mronohow do I get stuff to boot up with login06:09
LeeJunFanHobbsee: when you went into the kcontrol printer module? I get can't connect to cups every time I open it.06:09
Hobbseei think i did once, i've not again06:09
LeeJunFanSo I hit it again and I'm trying to add a printer now.06:09
Hobbseeyep06:09
Steven_M farous  ok. is there a way to install a local .deb file through aptitute so that it will know of it's existance?06:11
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: you hit what again?06:11
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: tell me if you fix it, I really hate switching to Windows to print06:11
LeeJunFanHobbsee: okay, I added printer and it didn't show in list until I restarted kcontrol, don't know if I can print yet, if I try I'll probably be looking at a divorce since it's in the room my wife's sleeping in.06:11
LeeJunFanfatejudger: when you get the error about not connecting to cups, just hit ok. Then add a printer anyway, it won't show up in the list until you stop and start kcontrol again, then once you have a printer installed it doens't error any more.06:12
Hobbseehehe!06:12
Hobbseeyeah06:12
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: what about that server thing?06:12
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fatejudgerLeeJunFan: does it need to be on localhost?06:13
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: or the default?06:13
LeeJunFanfatejudger: yeah06:13
LeeJunFanfatejudger: localhost:63106:13
LeeJunFanfatejudger: probably work with the path to cups.sock the same way.06:13
Steven_Mfarous: that's my last question06:15
farousshoot Steven_M06:15
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: I don't think so06:15
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: I tried that same process before06:15
LeeJunFanI'll be damned, all this time I probably could have been using dapper w/o any real problems. I remember when kde and cups first started integration, that problem was there until you had a printer added, forgot all about it.06:15
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: in fact, I don't get that "can't connect to CUPS" error anymore06:15
Steven_Mfarous:  is there a way to install a local .deb file through aptitute so that it will know of it's existance?06:16
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: someone needs to report the fix06:16
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: it's trivial and easy06:16
Hobbseefatejudger: what's the fix?06:16
farousSteven_M: i do not know06:16
fatejudgerHobbsee: it needs to be set to "localhost"06:16
Steven_Mok thanks for your help farous :-)06:17
LeeJunFanEven when I talked with Riddell about it though a couple weeks ago he said dapper and cups were still a no go. hrm.06:17
Mronoarg06:17
Hobbseefatejudger: patch it?06:17
Mronohow do I resolve this06:17
MronoE: /var/cache/apt/archives/metabar_0.7-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/metabar.png', which is also in package konq-plugins06:17
farous:)06:17
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LeeJunFanthere have to have been changed to kde codebase, becuase I know the root of the problem was/is that cups changed their API's.06:18
fatejudgerHobbsee: you can fix it06:18
fatejudgerHobbsee: you have access to the packages don't you?06:18
Hobbseefatejudger: i wouldnt bet on it06:18
Hobbseeand anyone has access to it06:18
Hobbseeapt-get source blah06:18
fatejudgerHobbsee: I meant you can upload them06:19
fatejudgerHobbsee: the fixes06:19
Hobbseeto revu?  i thought you could as well06:19
LeeJunFanI think only Riddell and one other guy have access to the kde core stuff.06:19
Hobbseei dont have access to kde core...06:19
Hobbseei'm just a packager - more on the outside06:19
Hobbseedarn it!  it failed!06:19
fatejudgerdamn, my color cartridge is running out06:20
fatejudgerHobbsee: message Riddell06:20
fatejudgerRiddell: ping06:20
crimsunplease file a bug on it and attach a debdiff06:21
Mrono!pastebin06:21
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)06:21
fatejudgerwtf is a debdiff?06:21
Mronohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/928906:21
Mronoerrors06:21
Mronocan anyone make anything out of em06:21
Mronotrying to install this06:21
Mronohttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2872506:21
Mronogot those in the make part06:22
Hobbseefatejudger: difference file - *.dsc > blah.debdiff06:22
fatejudgercrimsun: does Kubuntu have its own bug system?06:22
fatejudgerI don't know how to do any of that06:22
Hobbseefatejudger: it's in malone06:22
fatejudgerI'm not familiar with the system06:22
Hobbsee!launchpad06:22
crimsunfatejudger: no06:22
ubotumethinks launchpad is a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/06:22
Hobbsee!malone06:22
fatejudgerwho's going to file the bug?06:22
fatejudgerI don't want to file it twice06:23
crimsunyou are.06:23
Hobbseeyou can06:23
fatejudgergee, thanks06:23
crimsun"gee, thanks"?06:23
fatejudgerwhich package is responsible for controlling that stuff06:23
fatejudgercrimsun: in case you didn't catch it, I was being sarcastic06:23
fatejudgershould I just file it under the general package "cups"?06:24
LeeJunFanso now I suppose that I have 3d accel though I can't suspend/resume. hehe06:24
farousLeeJunFan: it is worth it06:24
crimsunfatejudger: sure; we'll reassign as necessary.06:24
LeeJunFanfarous: not for me.06:24
LeeJunFanfarous: I have to go work at other locations a lot.06:24
farousLeeJunFan: not for games i am not a gamer. but for my presentations they run much smoother now06:25
LeeJunFanfind out in a sec, be ready for ping timeout from me :)06:25
farousLeeJunFan: read it on the forums that the new opensource ati will support 3-d natively. am not sure if dapper will have it or not06:26
fatejudgerwtf06:27
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fatejudger"something went wrong in launchpad"?06:27
crimsuntell them about it in #launchpad06:27
fatejudgerlol06:28
fatejudgernow I have to file two bugs?06:28
Hobbseehehe06:28
crimsunare you complaining about filing bugs?06:28
crimsunthat's the ENVIABLE position06:28
Hobbseebug filing is good for you - just make sure you assign it correctly - unassigned ones are so annoying06:28
Hobbseerofl yeah!06:28
fatejudgerwtf06:31
fatejudgerhow is filing bugs good for me?06:31
fatejudgersee, this is why people use Windows06:31
Hobbseewell, you learn how to do it?06:31
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farousfatejudger: its how you payback all the effort that is put in the distro that you use06:32
farousfatejudger: and good practice for you too to curse ;)06:32
Hobbseewell, fatejudger doesnt have to contribute06:32
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Hobbseebut it's hard to get things fixed if you dont contribute06:32
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fatejudgertrue06:33
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Hobbseei thought you already did a lot of kubuntu stuff fatejudger06:35
LeeJunFantold ya :p06:35
LeeJunFanso I suppose if I comment out the 3d stuff from xorg.conf I should be able to suspend/resume again.06:36
fatejudgerHobbsee: no, not really06:36
fatejudgerHobbsee: I just hang around #kubuntu a lot06:36
fatejudgerHobbsee: and answer questions06:36
Hobbseefatejudger: do you work on skim/scim?06:36
LeeJunFanfarous: btw - I can't suspend with klaptop app, it hangs, but if I killall klaptop_acpi_helper after it does suspend.06:36
fatejudgerHobbsee: no06:36
Hobbseeoh, maybe i've got you confused then06:36
fatejudgerHobbsee: I'm too lazy to do any of this stuff06:37
fatejudgerHobbsee: I could do it, I know how to program, but I'm just lazy06:37
crimsunfatejudger: if you don't file bugs when you find stuff that's broken, how are we supposed to fix them?06:37
HobbseeLeeJunFan: i find that suspend works, but is very slow06:37
fatejudgercrimsun: hire a psychic?06:37
farousLeeJunFan: hmm cool tip. Yet 3-d accel is number one priority here06:37
crimsunfatejudger: well if it were that easy, why don't you fix them before we write them?06:37
fatejudgercrimsun: to tell you the truth, I didn't know you wanted bugs filed for alpha software06:37
crimsunfatejudger: you should always file bugs when you find broken stuff06:38
fatejudgercrimsun: I'll keep that in mind next time I have a problem with Kubuntu06:38
crimsunexcellent.06:38
fatejudgercrimsun: Dapper has been getting much better though, this CUPS thing was my last problem I think06:38
Hobbseefatejudger: oh, i'm confusing you with freeflying!  silly me!06:39
fatejudgerHobbsee: I don't know him06:39
LeeJunFanactually hire a physic for the developers to tell them they are about to write a bug and they can then avoid it.06:39
Hobbseei thought there was only one long name starting with f06:39
Hobbseelol06:39
freeflyingHobbsee: hmmm...06:39
farouslol06:39
LeeJunFandamn all you f'ers!06:40
LeeJunFan:)06:40
crimsunLeeJunFan: it'd be better to have psychics for nonsense feature-add user requests so they could be rejected. ;-)06:40
Hobbseehehe @ crimsun06:40
crimsun"well of course Dapper's not going to fix your marriage, sheesh"06:40
fatejudgercrimsun: what's wrong with wishlists?06:40
fatejudgercrimsun: everyone wishes for eye-candy anyway06:41
crimsunfatejudger: the keyword being nonsense06:41
Hobbseeit'd be nice if they were actually filed as wishlists too06:41
farousfor me i know all the hardwork that goes into development and for that am just thankfull for the developers06:41
fatejudgeroh wait, I remember my other problem now06:41
farousif they make a mistake they need a way to know and we are all human. Doing lots of coding and programming and know how stupid pcs can be sometimes ;)06:41
fatejudgerdrives get  mounted before Samba gets started06:41
LeeJunFanThank you for the developers, and for the code they have delivered unto us this day....06:42
crimsunXgl isn't a nonsense feature; it's a useful overhaul06:42
fatejudgerso you can't mount samba shares at boot06:42
fatejudgercrimsun: Xgl is broken in Kubuntu06:42
crimsunI don't think of things as "eye candy"06:42
LeeJunFanforgive us our bugs, as we forgive our buggers. :)06:42
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: lol06:42
crimsunfatejudger: malone # ?06:42
fatejudgercrimsun: umm, X freezes when I start it with XGL06:42
fatejudgercrimsun: there's no howto for XGL on Kubuntu06:43
fatejudgercrimsun: so I think I might be setting it up wrong06:43
farousLeeJunFan: lol06:43
fatejudgercrimsun: it also says it can't find the fglrx module06:43
fatejudgercrimsun: but fglrx works fine...06:43
fatejudgerHobbsee: can you submit that CUPS bug for me?06:43
fatejudgerHobbsee: Launchpad isn't working for me06:43
fatejudgerHobbsee: I keep getting an error06:44
Hobbseefatejudger: i cant reproduce it06:44
fatejudgerHobbsee: don't worry about that, just file the bug06:44
fatejudgerHobbsee: someone will figure it out06:44
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LeeJunFanI think the localhost:631 was fixed some time ago, but it wouldn't clear itself up because it got saved in your users .kde prefs06:44
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: no, I did a fresh install of Flight 4 when it came o ut06:44
fatejudgercrimsun: do you know of any Xgl howto for Kubuntu?06:45
kunjan[23:44]  [470]  #java ##java Forwarding to another channel06:45
kunjan[23:44]  [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel06:45
kunjanwht does that mean/06:45
kunjan?06:45
Hobbseefatejudger: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bugs06:45
farouskunjan: you need to register06:45
kunjanthis is kinda offtopic here but how to register?06:46
farous!+register06:46
ubotumethinks register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))06:46
kunjanthanks guys!06:46
crimsunfatejudger: are you serious?06:46
crimsunfatejudger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto06:46
LeeJunFanfatejudger: if you rm ~/.kde/share/config/kdeprintrc before you login to kde it will start over with defaults, I could swear it was the localhost:631 last time I tried.06:46
fatejudgercrimsun: that's for Gnome06:46
Psi-JackHmm06:46
crimsunfatejudger: it's very much not GNOME-centric06:47
Psi-JackWhat kinda P2P clients are there for Linux that work? mldonkey sucks big-time, and apparently, it's also quite well blacklisted all over.06:47
fatejudgercrimsun: look at step 606:47
crimsunfatejudger: and look at step 306:47
fatejudgercrimsun: I see that06:47
fatejudgercrimsun: now look at step 606:47
kunjangot it! thanks!06:47
fatejudgercrimsun: and tell me the KDE equivalent06:47
Psi-JackI'm talking the overnet, gnutella2, etc.,06:47
fatejudgercrimsun: because I know that gnome-window-decorator sure as hell isn't for KDE06:48
Mrono grr06:48
Mronomy arts engine keeps crashing06:48
Mronobut it comes right back  up06:48
crimsunfatejudger: take a wild guess from http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=compiz-kde&version=dapper&arch=i38606:48
LeeJunFanfatejudger: nope, you're correct. I just created a new user and it's using /var/run/cups/cups.sock06:48
fatejudgercrimsun: there's nothing in there06:49
crimsunfatejudger: choose another mirror06:49
crimsun(hint: -rwxr-xr-x root/root     18320 2006-02-19 05:59:33 ./usr/bin/kde-window-decorator)06:50
fatejudgercrimsun: you still didn't answer my question about step 606:50
crimsunI just did.06:50
fatejudgercrimsun: so just "kde-window-decorator"?06:50
fatejudgercrimsun: and I still use gedit?06:50
crimsunfatejudger: instead of gnome-window-decorator06:50
Mronohow do I un rar things06:51
Mronoark doesn't work06:51
crimsunMrono: you probably want unrar-nonfree in multiverse06:51
crimsun!info unrar-nonfree06:51
fatejudgercompiz-kde uses QT 4?06:51
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB06:51
Mrono"the utility unrar is not in your PATH"06:51
crimsunfatejudger: yes06:52
fatejudgercrimsun: weird06:52
fatejudgercrimsun: ok, I'm gonna log out of KDE06:52
fatejudgercrimsun: should I print out step 6?06:52
crimsunif it helps you, sure06:52
Mronocrimsun:I installed unrar-free06:53
fatejudgercrimsun: can you print out a highlighted selection in Konq?06:53
Mronohow do I get the nonfree one06:53
fatejudgerMrono: multiverse06:53
crimsunMrono: enable multiverse and install 'unrar-nonfree'06:53
Mronothey are enabled but i'm not seeing it06:53
crimsunfatejudger: I don't use Konqueror06:54
MronoE: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate06:54
fatejudgerdoes anyone here know how to print a highlighted selection of text in Konqueror?06:54
crimsun!tell Mrono about repos06:54
LeeJunFanI responded to one of the already existing cups bugs on this subject for kde.06:55
LeeJunFanAnd I'll ask Jonathan about it next time I see him online.06:56
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: thanks06:56
LeeJunFanfatejudger: you actually printed didn't you? I can't test right now :(06:57
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: yeah, it works06:57
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: I think they fixed the CUPS margin problem too06:57
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LeeJunFanfatejudger: nice.06:57
fatejudgerok so, before I restart06:58
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fatejudgerdoes anyone know how to mount smb drives using the fstab?06:58
fatejudgerit tries mounting them before samba is loaded06:58
fatejudgerand doesn't work06:58
fatejudgerI didn't know whether there was a way around that06:58
MronoI added those repositories to the sources.list and it just gives me errors galore06:59
LeeJunFanfatejudger: I think the problem is probably more nmbd not being loaded than samba, what if you put the names of the systems as they appear in your fstab in /etc/hosts, or use IP#'s?06:59
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fatejudgerLeeJunFan: I am using IPs07:00
crimsunMrono: "those repositories"? What're the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list? Use pastebin.07:00
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: it still says, "failed"07:00
LeeJunFanfatejudger: hrm, I dunno then. Never done samba shares that way.07:00
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: amarok won't read them unless they're mounted07:00
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: and xine is crippled too07:00
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: it's very disappointing, because it's a pain in the ass to mount them07:01
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: especially since I have to turn off my computer every night07:01
Mronohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/929307:01
fatejudgerok well, brb07:01
LeeJunFanfatejudger: that might be the way kde sends the URL's because it tries to access them as smb:/whatever, try editing the menu entry for xine or amarok and change the  to %F.07:01
fatejudgergonna try to install Xgl07:01
crimsunmount(8) doesn't do anything with smbfs via /etc/fstab07:02
fatejudgercrimsun: I don't have a ./gnomerc07:03
fatejudger*/,gnomerc07:03
fatejudgercrimsun: that's gnome specific07:03
crimsunfatejudger: then ignore it07:03
fatejudgercrimsun: what is the KDE counterpart?07:03
kunjanmy Xgl runs fine if i run like "Xgl" but running a term and loading up compiz and gnome-window-dekorator or kde-win*-deco* doesnt work07:03
fatejudgercrimsun: how can I ignore it?07:03
fatejudgercrimsun: I'll have to manually start compiz every time I log in07:03
kunjanand if i run using kdm it still starts up Xorg server07:03
kunjannot xgl07:03
crimsunfatejudger: ask for the KDE equivalent in here07:03
fatejudgercrimsun: cmon, you know what it is07:04
crimsune.g., ~/.kde/Autostart07:04
fatejudgercrimsun: that's after KDE starts though07:04
crimsunfatejudger: about what are you unclear?07:05
fatejudgercrimsun: whether your suggestion to use Autostart will work07:05
crimsunfatejudger: your question seems to be concerned with how to avoid manually starting compiz each time you log in07:06
fatejudgercrimsun: exactly07:06
crimsunso what's unclear?07:06
fatejudgercrimsun: so how would I do avoid having to do that?07:06
fatejudgercrimsun: you said using KDE's Autostart07:07
fatejudgercrimsun: but don't you have to run compiz before you start KDE?07:07
crimsunfatejudger: no07:07
fatejudgercrimsun: ok, thank you for clearing that up then07:07
fatejudgerbrb, restarting KDE07:07
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fatejudgercrimsun: I just got an error07:10
fatejudgercrimsun: it can't detect my display07:10
fatejudgercrimsun: I think I read something about this, it's an fglrx problem07:11
fatejudgercrimsun: do you know anything about it?07:11
Hobbseefatejudger: [17:09]  <-- crimsun has left this server ("'night").07:11
fatejudgerdamnit!07:12
fatejudgernow how am I supposed to fix this?07:12
fatejudgerI'm stuck in stupid bitchx07:12
fatejudgercan anyone help me?07:13
fatejudgerI don't think I can join another channel without leaving this one...07:13
Hobbseeyou should be able to - you certainly can with irssi07:14
fatejudgerwell then I won't know how to get back07:14
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fatejudgerisn't there anyone in here that can help me?07:15
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: do you know anything about Xgl in KDE?07:15
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LeeJunFanfatejudger: nope.07:15
fatejudgerdamnit07:15
kunjanwhts happening fatejudger?07:15
Mronoyou guys need to get yakuake07:15
fatejudgercompiz can't open my display07:15
fatejudgerMrono: yes, we all realize how cool it is07:16
Mronook good07:16
Mronoi didn't talk about it earlier did I?07:16
fatejudgerI doubt it07:16
fatejudgerso07:16
Mronook good07:16
fatejudgerback to my "can't open display" problem07:16
MronoI have a bad memory07:16
Mronowhats up07:16
kunjanfatejudger: open a terminl in X and "echo  $DISPLAY" whts the output?07:16
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fatejudgerkunjan: nothing07:17
kunjandid u open a xterm?07:17
fatejudgerI'm in the terminal right now07:17
fatejudgerI can't get into KDE07:17
fatejudgerthat's my problem07:17
fatejudgerI'm in bitchx07:17
Pietemrono: Oooh.. that's a nice app :) Thanks telling..07:17
kunjanstart X in a failsafe mode07:17
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Mronoheh07:18
fatejudgerI have an idea, brb07:18
kunjanok07:18
Mronoopengl and 3d acceleartion failed on my computer07:18
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fatejudgerwell that didn't work out too well07:19
richard2How I make a newtwork for 2 computers?07:19
kunjanhmm07:19
kunjanwht did u try07:19
fatejudgerI tried starting KDE07:19
fatejudgerlol07:19
farousfatejudger: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart07:19
fatejudgerit just hangs07:19
kunjanwhts the command line u use to start compiz?07:19
fatejudgerthe one in the ubuntu wiki07:20
kunjando u see kde splash?07:20
fatejudgerwiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto07:20
fatejudgerno, it hangs07:20
kunjantry adding --display :007:20
kunjanor :107:20
kunjansee if that helps07:20
fatejudgerI did07:20
fatejudgerI tried both07:21
fatejudgerI'm wondering whether I should just restart my computer07:21
fatejudgerlet me try that07:21
kunjancan u see kde splash07:21
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orugohey all07:22
kunjanshould someone tell him that he isnt running windows?07:22
kunjanlol07:22
orugowhat07:22
kunjanwhy the restart07:22
orugohey07:23
orugois there a new beta ofkubuntu?07:23
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kunjanflight 407:23
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fatejudgernothing07:23
kunjanso did that work07:23
kunjannope07:23
fatejudgerno07:23
kunjanok lets see if ur actually running Xgl or Xorg07:23
_aaronmy sshd ain't working... it only says "fail"07:24
orugoflight 4 has a live cd right07:24
fatejudgerorugo: yes07:24
kunjanorugo: i think so07:24
orugodoes it have a .. normal cd?07:24
_aaronand I need to get flash working ...07:24
orugohaha07:24
kunjanfatejudger can u check ur ps output and see wht server ur running?07:24
Mronoum07:24
fatejudgerboth07:24
fatejudgerI'm running both07:24
Mronoanyone installed ati radon drivers07:24
kunjanu cant be running both07:25
Mronothe ati drivers07:25
fatejudgerwait a second07:25
fatejudgerok, it says that it's running Xorg at runlevel 707:25
fatejudgerand it's running Xgl at runlevel ?07:25
_aaronI can't find the ssh log in /var/log07:25
orugodoes anybody try flight 4?07:25
fatejudgerso07:25
fatejudgerit's trying to use Xorg to run KDE atm07:25
kunjani have no clue!07:25
kunjanrunlevel 7?07:26
fatejudgerkunjan: that wasn't a question07:26
fatejudgerkunjan: it is running at runlevel ?07:26
kunjanyeah i got that07:26
kunjanafaik there is no runlevel 707:26
fatejudgertty707:26
kunjanyeah07:26
fatejudgerwhatever it is07:26
fatejudgerso07:26
kunjanVT 707:26
kunjanvirtual terminal 707:26
fatejudgerhow do I go about changing that then?07:26
kunjanthats fine u dont need to change it07:27
fatejudgerI need to stop Xorg right?07:27
kunjanyeah07:27
fatejudgerit can't be trying to start KDe07:27
kunjando this07:27
kunjanwait07:27
kunjanwait07:27
fatejudgeryes, I did symlink it too07:28
kunjanu have ati or nvidia?07:28
fatejudgerif that's what you're thinking07:28
fatejudgerati07:28
fatejudgerI'm using fglrx07:28
richard2someone know how  to make a network in kubuntu for 2 computer?07:29
kunjanhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=73975807:29
fatejudgerrichard2: you mean filesharing?07:29
fatejudgerkunjan: I can't read that07:29
kunjansee that link fatejudger07:29
kunjanwhy not?07:29
fatejudgerkunjan: I'm in the terminal07:29
fatejudgerkunjan: bitchx07:30
kunjanapt-get install lynx07:30
fatejudgerhow will I remember that link?07:30
kunjanthats text mode web brower07:30
fatejudgerI know what it is07:30
fatejudgerbut the link is gone already07:30
kunjanwrite it down07:30
fatejudgerand I can't scroll up07:30
kunjanwait07:30
kunjanopen another terminal07:31
kunjanand07:31
kunjan  /usr/bin/Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo07:31
fatejudgerlol07:31
kunjantell me does it start xgl?07:31
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kunjanfatejudger u know how to use wget?07:31
kunjanand do u have it installed?07:32
kunjannvermind its easier to type07:32
fatejudgerI just tried it07:32
fatejudgerit isn't working because kdm is already running07:33
orugohey07:33
fatejudgerand I can't stop KDM07:33
orugodoes anybody try flight?07:33
orugoit is good?07:33
orugodoes it work?07:33
fatejudgerI use flight 4, does it look like it's working to you?07:33
orugohaha07:33
orugooh07:33
orugosorry07:33
fatejudgerlol, no seriously07:33
fatejudgerit's good07:34
fatejudgerI just screwed it up07:34
orugohaha07:34
fatejudgerjust don't install Xgl07:34
orugohahaha07:34
fatejudgerand you'll be fine07:34
orugook07:34
orugoill download the live cd07:34
orugotks07:34
fatejudgerthe live cd isn't that good07:34
fatejudgerbetter off trying the regular install07:34
orugoyes but..07:34
orugois there a intall cd?07:34
orugoi just saw the live cd07:34
orugo(my english sucks)07:34
fatejudgeryeah07:35
fatejudgerthere is a live cd07:35
fatejudgerok, I'm going to have to restart into the recovery mode07:35
kunjanfatejudeger: to stop kdm type this /etc/07:35
kunjanfatejudeger: to stop kdm type this /etc/init.d/kdm stop07:35
fatejudgerok...07:35
kunjanthen open another terminal and execute this07:35
kunjanXgl :1 -ac -nolisten tcp -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer & DISPLAY=:1 xterm07:35
fatejudgernot working07:35
fatejudgerit's locked up07:35
kunjanthat cant lock up!07:35
fatejudgerlet me restart into recovery mode07:36
kunjani got to go07:36
fatejudgerwait a sec07:36
kunjani havent figureed out xgl myself07:36
kunjanok sure07:36
fatejudgerit'll only take a minute07:36
fatejudgerthen you can copy and paste it in here07:36
kunjanokk!07:36
fatejudgerlol, thanks07:36
fatejudgerI really appriciate it07:36
fatejudgerbrb, restart07:36
kunjanno prob07:36
Mronosigh07:39
Mronothis would be so much easier if I had a linux guru beside me07:39
kunjanwht is it mrono?07:39
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kunjanha there07:40
Mronotrying to install my ati radon 900007:40
fatejudgerlol07:40
fatejudgersorry about that07:40
kunjanlol07:40
fatejudgerI tried the /etc/init.d/kdm stop thing one more time before I gave up07:40
kunjanXgl :1 -ac -nolisten tcp -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer & DISPLAY=:1 xterm07:40
kunjanwht did it do?07:40
fatejudgerI wasn't sure that Xorg would be loaded in recovery mode07:40
kunjanmrono: i have no clue abt ati h/w07:40
richard2fatejudger: yes filesharing07:40
Mronoyep07:40
kunjani have nvidia07:40
fatejudgerok, recovery mode lets me have only 1 terminal open07:41
kunjani think u should have some repos for it07:41
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kunjanyeah07:41
fatejudgerso kunjan, I'm gonna have to write that down then get back in here07:41
kunjanhey07:41
kunjanu can telinit 307:41
kunjanwhich is textmode for ubuntu07:41
kunjanthat ought to give u multiple terminals07:42
kunjani think ;)07:42
Mronook07:42
fatejudgerI'll still have to exit bitch to do that07:42
fatejudger*bitchx07:42
kunjanyeah07:42
fatejudgerok so, brb again07:42
Mronoi'm configuring the xorg server as told to in the ati walkthrough07:42
kunjanwht link is it07:42
kunjan?07:42
Mronowhat modules do I select to autoload?07:42
kunjanlet me take a look at it07:42
Mrono!ati07:42
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358907:42
kunjanfglrx is all u need i think07:43
kunjandid u add fglrx  to /etc/modules?07:43
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fatejudgerok, that was really unhelpful07:44
fatejudgerlol07:44
fatejudgerget this07:44
fatejudgerit starts up x07:44
kunjanhmm07:44
fatejudgerand then gives me this tiny ass little terminal07:44
kunjanyeah07:44
fatejudgerso I've been downgraded07:44
kunjanr u in that terminal?07:44
fatejudgeryeah07:44
kunjanok07:44
kunjanu have kde right?07:44
fatejudgeryeah07:44
kunjanok do this07:44
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kunjanexit that terminal, type "kwin & ; konsole &"07:45
kunjanshit07:45
fatejudger?07:45
kunjandont exit the terminal07:45
fatejudgerlol07:45
kunjanexit bitchx07:45
Mronohere07:45
fatejudgerok07:45
kunjanand type that07:45
Mronoi'll give you some options07:45
kunjanyeah mrono?07:45
Mrono!pastebin07:45
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)07:45
Mronoyep07:46
Mrono3.507:46
Mrono!pastebin07:46
fatejudgerkunjan: should I exit and do that command?07:46
fatejudgerkunjar: or do you have something else to add?07:46
Mronosorry about what i'm about to do07:46
Mronowhich one07:46
Mronoi use the drop down one07:46
Mronoi'm still in the xorg config07:46
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kunjandid u try this mrono? As of november 2005, ATI provides usable, properly packaged drivers which can be used on Ubuntu. They can even be installed easily!07:46
Mronohere man07:46
Mronohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/929607:46
Mronowhich ones do I select07:46
fatejudgerkunjan: I guess I'll try that command then...07:47
fatejudgerbrb07:47
richard2someone know how to filesharing?07:47
fatejudgerrichard2: install NFS07:47
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Mrono!ntfs07:47
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions07:47
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kunjanmrono not sure... do u have this command on ur system? aticonfig --initial07:49
Mrononot sure07:49
kunjanthat should set up ur xorg.conf automagically07:49
Mronolet me check07:49
kunjanrichard2 look at samba docs07:49
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fatejudgerok, so now my windows are KDEized07:49
kunjanyeah07:49
kunjannow07:49
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fatejudgerand it started an instance of Konsole07:50
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kunjannow check if ur running xorg or xgl07:50
Mronomrono@weridkid:~/Desktop$ sudo aticonfig --initial07:50
MronoUsing /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:50
MronoFound fglrx primary device section07:50
Mronomrono@weridkid:~/Desktop$07:50
kunjanhmm thts it?07:51
fatejudgerXgl is in tty107:51
fatejudgerdamnit07:51
kunjandyeah07:51
kunjannow07:51
fatejudgerit's freezing07:51
kunjanwht?07:51
kunjanfreezing wht?07:51
fatejudgertty1 Grabbing the mouse failed with "GrabInvalidTime"07:51
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kunjanweird07:52
fatejudgerok so07:52
fatejudgerXgl is in tty107:52
fatejudgerXorg is in tty207:52
kunjanits screwed man07:52
kunjanlol07:52
fatejudgerlol07:52
fatejudgershouldn't I just manually stop Xorg?07:52
kunjani gave up on installing xgl dont have time to mess with it07:53
kunjani m gonna sleep now man07:53
kunjangood luck!07:53
fatejudgeralright, thanks07:53
richard2fatejudger nsf-common?07:53
kunjanlater!07:53
fatejudgerrichard2: I think so07:53
fatejudgerdamn, I'm screwed07:53
Mrononow what kunjan07:54
richard2ok07:54
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firephotojfyi, i rebooted the kubuntu dapper box just now, meant to go into gentoo at the grub prompt but missed it by a moment, hit esc after that, maybe another key(s), got a root@kubuntu prompt, whoami says root08:05
Mronobrb rebooting08:10
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richard2Someone know How make a file sharing?08:34
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Mronohi09:03
Mrono!seen brenden_09:03
Mronodarn09:03
ubotuMrono: i haven't seen 'brenden_'09:03
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Mronohmm09:05
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MronoI need some help recompiling my kernal to support my wifi09:05
Mronohe said he was going to be here today09:06
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Mronowell he said he hoped he was going to be here09:06
Mronoo-well09:06
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Eiscremehi09:21
Eiscremeis kubuntu  Debian  unstable?09:21
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Psi-JackEiscreme: Ummm.. What?09:23
Psi-JackEiscreme: No, Kubuntu is Kubuntu.09:23
EiscremePsi-Jack: but it is based on Debian?09:24
EiscremePsi-Jack: may I tell you why I ask that?09:24
Psi-JackIt is not Debian. It's based on Debian, but is not Debian.09:24
EiscremePsi-Jack: knoppix / kanotix and mepis are also  Distributions09:25
Eiscremethey all are based on debian but now they are their own distros09:25
Eiscremewell, the problem was:09:25
Eiscremewhen I wanted to update software or install new software,  I always had to say a prayer if it works or not09:25
Eiscremebecause sometimes something broke09:26
Eiscremethe worst thing was libc6 that broke09:26
Psi-JackOkay?09:26
Eiscremelibc6 disturbed near my whole PC just because of ONE program I wanted to install09:26
Eiscremewell09:26
Eiscremethe reason why I tell you this story:09:26
Eiscremecan something like this happen with kubuntu?09:26
Mrononot that I know of09:27
Mronothis is pretty stable09:27
Psi-JackIt could.09:27
Mronowell09:27
Mrononigth kiddies09:27
Psi-JackBut it's doubtful.09:27
Eiscremehum09:28
Eiscremeone last question:09:28
Eiscremewhat makes kubuntu good?  (versus debian sarge)09:28
Eiscrememaybe you think kubuntu is better, otherwise you would not use it09:28
Psi-JackEiscreme: It's updated every 6 months, and not once every 2-3 years.09:28
Eiscremeso what makes kubuntu better than debian?09:29
Eiscremehum09:29
EiscremePsi-Jack: but when debian is only updates every 2-3 years,  the packages are up2date ?09:29
Eiscremeor am I wrong?09:29
Psi-JackDebian Sarge still only has KDE 3.2.something, while Kubuntu has KDE 3.5.1 available to it, released initially with 3.4.209:31
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pulverhi! installed kde (3.4) from ubuntu install.. how do you get kde to automount a cd?09:39
Psi-JackFirst of all, upgrade to kde 3.5.1. Instructions at kubuntu.org09:40
pulverPsi-Jack: ok thanks will do.. after cleared som hdd space09:40
Psi-JackSecond, anything in /etc/fstab for your CDROM drive(s) should be set to mount in /media/* instead of /mnt (Kubuntu's installer should have done that automatically).09:41
Eiscremedoes Kubuntu give me X by default or do I have to configure things?09:43
pulverok now it says /media/cdrom009:43
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Psi-JackEiscreme: Yes.09:46
Psi-JackKubuntu comes with X and KDE, preinstalled. That's what the K in Kubuntu means. Ubuntu, the base distribution, comes with Gnome preinstalled.09:46
Psi-JackOr you can opt to do a server install, and get very minimal, up front.09:46
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EiscremePsi-Jack: thats cool09:47
Eiscremethank you very much!09:47
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FliesLikeABrickI'm on kubuntu 5.10 now, if I want to start using the testing release (not unstable) what changes to i need to make to my apt sources to switch over?09:55
stonedhow can i install all the real/quicktime/microsoft codecs for kde?09:55
FliesLikeABrick!tell stoned about w32codecs09:56
stonedi have that package installed already09:56
stonedbut only mplayer will play wmv files etc.09:56
FliesLikeABrickvlc is also good09:56
FliesLikeABricki'm not sure about quicktime, but there is a linux version of realplayer09:56
stonedkonqeuror doesn't even show previes for anything except those codecs.  anything like real/ms/qt won't have previes either09:56
stonedand i have properly configures09:56
stonedeverything is selected in preives and hugest possible file size09:57
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Psi-Jackstoned: Mind you, they're not for KDE specifically.09:59
FliesLikeABricksorry stoned  i don't know anything about konqueror plugins09:59
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Psi-Jackstoned: To be frank, there's no "good" media plugins for Mozilla/Konqueror that are really "good"10:02
fatejudgeris there a way to call Xorg functions by using KDE's keyboard mapping system?10:02
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fatejudgerI don't really want to have to use xmodmap10:02
Psi-Jackfatejudger: KDE already uses Xkb.10:03
fatejudger?10:03
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Psi-JackThey didn't reinvent the wheel. They just utiilized what Xorg already provided.,10:03
fatejudgerI need it to call Xorg functions like XF86AudioLowerVolume10:03
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fatejudgercan the KDE keyboard mapping thing do that?10:03
fatejudgerI tried it, but I couldn't get it to work10:03
Psi-Jackfatejudger: So setup the keyboard mapping in KDE's Control Center, and set it to do it, where you want. kmix for example, will use XF86AudioVolumeUp, or whatever.10:04
fatejudger?10:04
Psi-JackIf you have KDE 3.5.1 of course.10:04
fatejudgerI do10:04
fatejudgerI tried putting in the function name10:04
fatejudgerbut it wouldn't work10:04
fatejudgerit just would do a Konq search for the function name10:04
fatejudgerit was weird10:04
Psi-JackUmm.10:04
Psi-JackWhat exactly are you doing?10:05
Psi-JackAnd what are you TRYING to do?10:05
fatejudgerSystem Settings -> Regional & Accessibility10:05
fatejudger-> Input Actions10:05
fatejudgerI'm trying to set some keys to raise, lower, and mute the volume10:05
fatejudgerwin + "+"10:05
fatejudgerwin + "-"10:05
fatejudgerwin + "*" = mute10:06
Psi-Jackfatejudger: Do you have a multimedia keyboard?10:06
fatejudgerno10:06
fatejudgerlol10:06
fatejudgerI'm trying to cheat10:06
fatejudgersee?10:06
Psi-JackI see.10:06
Psi-Jackfatejudger: : Then, do this. Open up kmix10:06
fatejudgergot it10:06
fatejudgerohhhh10:06
fatejudgerI see what you're going to do10:06
Psi-JackSetitngs, Global Shortcuts10:06
fatejudgeryeah10:06
fatejudgerbut then the thing is10:06
fatejudgeryou don't get that cool dialogue10:06
Psi-JackYes, yes, you do.10:06
fatejudgerreally?10:06
Psi-JackUmm, Yeah.. kmix 3.5.1 has a little popup dialog that tells you what's going on.10:07
Psi-JackI rather... Big, very well noticable one,. heh10:07
fatejudgerI don't see it10:08
fatejudgerare you using Dapper?10:08
Psi-JackWorks on mine. No I'm not.10:08
fatejudgerah, that might be why10:08
fatejudgervolume lower doesn't work either10:08
Psi-JackShouldn't be.10:08
Psi-JackBecause, 3.5.1 is ported BACk from Dapper.10:09
Psi-JackDid you set the shortcuts?10:09
fatejudgeryeah10:09
fatejudgerbut10:09
fatejudgerI have Xorg 7.010:09
fatejudgerso it might be different10:09
Psi-JackSo?10:09
fatejudgerit calls functions from Xorg10:09
Psi-JackXorg7 still uses xkb10:09
fatejudgerwell it isn't showing the cool volume thingy10:10
fatejudgerso apparently something is going on10:10
fatejudgerwhich is causing it not to show it10:10
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Psi-JackSomething else could already have those shortcuts bound.10:10
fatejudgerno10:10
fatejudgerthe actual process of lowering and raising the volume works10:10
fatejudgerbut10:10
fatejudgerthe dialogue thing10:11
fatejudgerit doesn't show up10:11
Psi-JackTry restarting kmix?10:11
fatejudgernothing10:11
Psi-JackPurhaps your KDE configuration is messed up. Try it with a different user.10:12
Psi-Jackdifferent/new user, that is.10:12
micandHello ... I'm on a brand new install of Kubuntu on a ATI X1900 video card, and I can't get X working. The tail of my Xorg.0.log is here: http://pastebin.com/571592. Thanks in advance!10:12
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fatejudgerwtf, I just installed Dapper 3 days ago10:13
fatejudgerit can't be messed up already10:13
fatejudgerit must be the fact that I have Xorg 710:13
fatejudgerthere's no other explination10:13
Psi-JackTry it.10:14
jmstylrhi, i just upgraded kde to 3.5.1, and now kdm doesn't start automatically on boot. i can start it manually and it runs fine. anybody know what's going on?10:14
fatejudgera new user?10:14
Psi-JackYes.10:14
fatejudgerI'll just delete my KDE config files10:14
Psi-JackOr that.10:14
fatejudgeror maybe not10:14
fatejudgerdon't want to erase all of my settings10:14
pulveruhm tried the mirrors listed at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php and get a gpg error when trying to update :( any ideas?10:15
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Psi-Jackfatejudger: Or you could just mv .kde .kde-backup10:15
Psi-JackWhile not logged in, of course.10:16
Psi-JackInto KDE that is. :)10:16
fatejudgerprobably easier to create a new user10:16
pulvernevermind got it (no sleep)10:16
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fatejudgerbrb10:17
Psi-JackYou know.10:18
Psi-JackYou can load another session without logging out, right? :)10:18
fatejudgerwell that sucked10:21
Psi-Jackoh?10:21
fatejudgeryeah, I didn't have the permissions set right or something10:22
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fatejudgerI wish they would default it to the permission that you need to run your sound system, at the very least10:22
Psi-JackDid you create a new user, and not add them to the audio group? :)10:22
fatejudgerI thought I selected all the ones that my account had10:22
fatejudgerbut apparently not10:22
fatejudgeradm, admin, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video10:23
Psi-JackHmm, looks sane.10:23
fatejudgerno, that was for my own reference10:23
fatejudgerI thought I could copy and paste it10:23
fatejudgerbut for some reason it wouldn't let me10:23
fatejudgerI just bought a gig of RAM a couple of days ago10:24
fatejudgerit's the best purchase I've made in awhile10:24
Psi-JackOh, I bet.10:24
fatejudgerKubuntu runs amazing10:24
fatejudgerwell, I did buy this awesome freaking 24 inch widescreen dell monitor10:25
Psi-JackWidescreen? Nice. :)10:25
fatejudgeryeah, that was a treat10:25
Psi-JackOnly 24" though? Not so nice.10:25
fatejudgerlol10:25
fatejudgerwtf?10:25
fatejudgerthat's the second biggest monitor they make10:25
fatejudgeraside from the 30 inch one10:25
fatejudgerwhich requires two DVI inputs10:25
Psi-JackHehehe10:26
Psi-JackI was kidding. :p10:26
fatejudgerand costs 2,100 bucks10:26
fatejudgera little out of my price range...10:26
fatejudger920 already hurt enough10:26
fatejudgeranyway, brb, switching users10:26
Psi-JackI've got 3 26" widescreens. :)10:26
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noteventime'ello10:28
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fatejudgerit's amazing how little RAM Kubuntu uses vs Windows10:28
fatejudgeranyway10:28
fatejudgerdidn't show the audio thing10:28
noteventimeMine uses a lot less :S10:28
fatejudgerthen again. I'm not running any desktop widgets right now10:29
fatejudgerso I have to give it that10:29
fatejudgerand Linux uses up a bit of RAM doing that pre-emptive tasking thing10:29
fatejudgerI forget what it's called10:29
noteventimeprelinking?10:29
pulverwhat kde pkgs should one upgrade from 3.4 to 3.5? dont want to break stuff and looks like can't upgrade the kde meta pkg...10:30
noteventimeYou can't, it worked for me, i think installing only some KDE packages would break it...10:31
noteventimeDoes someone know how to change the background image that appears between KDM-login and the splashscreen10:31
Psi-Jackpulver: Why can't you upgrade by the kde meta package?10:32
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: should I try just doing xmodmap manually?10:32
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Psi-Jackfatejudger: xmodmap is old, and deprecated in favor of xkb.10:32
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: what is xkb?10:33
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Psi-JackIt's part of X. heh. Been part of Xorg for a long time.10:33
fatejudgerreally?10:33
Psi-JackUhh yeah.10:33
fatejudgerwell then that must be what KMix uses10:33
fatejudgerso10:33
fatejudgerI guess I'm out of options then10:33
Psi-JackNo, that's what KDE uses.10:33
fatejudgerok10:33
fatejudgerwhich would mean that KMix uses it10:33
fatejudgerso set the Global Shortcuts10:34
fatejudger*to10:34
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_timhi all10:34
pulverPsi-Jack: hehe guess it works after all.. just didnt see the option in synaptic.. so went cli10:34
Psi-Jackfatejudger: Not sure, exactly. I think for event handling, KDE uses it's own interfaces. It uses xkb for keyboard layouts.10:35
fatejudgerwhat should I try doing then?10:35
noteventime'ello10:35
fatejudgerit works on my Breezy laptop10:35
fatejudgerwith xmodmap10:35
fatejudgerI haven't tried it with the kmix global shortcuts10:35
Psi-JackHeh. Wow.. You must be old school-ish, to not keep up with some things. ;)10:36
fatejudgerlol, no10:36
fatejudgerthe laptop volume keys just aren't recognized by KDE10:36
fatejudgerI had to manually stick them in there10:36
Psi-JackAhhh.10:37
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fatejudgerPsi-Jack: it doesn't work on my laptop10:38
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: can't I just call that function?10:39
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: XF86AudioRaiseVolume10:39
fatejudger?10:39
fatejudgerI just want to bind that set of keys to that function10:39
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Psi-JackHmm, That you could do. That, still requires the use of xmodmap. ;)10:40
fatejudgerlol10:40
fatejudgeryeah10:40
fatejudgerI'd rather do it the hard way and get the cool volume notifier10:40
fatejudgerthan have nothing at all10:40
Psi-JackWhich, I'm not saying you can't do. :)10:40
Dreamstarhello all10:40
noteventime'ello10:40
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: I don't understand why it's working for you though10:40
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Psi-Jackfatejudger: Because I'm actually USING XF86AudioRaise/LowerVolume from the use of my xkb-mapped multimedia Logitech Coordless Freedom keyboard.10:41
Dreamstari have a prob trying to compile Superkaramba 0.37 coz it reports that cpp is not correctly installed, but i checked with synaptic and i have it, how is it possible?!?10:41
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: ?10:41
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Psi-JackMayhaps, That dialog only works, when those XF86Audio* signals are caught.10:42
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: how did you map it?10:42
Psi-Jackfatejudger: I used KControl.10:42
noteventimeWell, that didn't work att all :(10:42
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: where in Kcontrol?10:42
Psi-Jackfatejudger: Selected my keyboard layout.10:42
noteventime:/ Hmmm... Anyone knows how to change the background image that is shown after login and before splash?10:42
Dreamstaranybody  helping me?:)10:43
noteventimeSure, whats the problem?10:43
Dreamstari have a prob trying to compile Superkaramba 0.37 coz it reports that cpp is not correctly installed, but i checked with synaptic and i have it, how is it possible?!?10:43
Psi-Jackfatejudger: I used the Regional & Accessability -> Keyboard Layout.10:43
noteventimeYou probably don't have everything you need to compile10:43
noteventimeThere is a package called build-essential10:44
noteventimeInstall that10:44
Dreamstarok i try10:44
Psi-Jackfatejudger: And, so the volume knob on my keyboard, sends XF86AudioRaiseVolume and XF86AudioLowerVolume10:44
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: did you call the functions manually?10:44
Psi-Jackfatejudger: No.10:44
noteventimeDreamstart: I think that is what you need10:44
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: then how did you set it up?10:44
Psi-Jackfatejudger: There's an xkb map for my keyboard.10:44
Psi-Jackfatejudger: In other words. I didn't have to do anything overly complicated, since I /have/ a multimedia keyboard. ;)10:45
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: can you look at the individual keys?10:45
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: see what it calls to acheieve the results?10:45
Psi-Jackfatejudger: Not there, no.10:45
fatejudgerPsi-Jack: well that's a bunch of crap10:46
Dreamstarnoteventime: thx i'm trying this, i think the prob is that it tries to find cpp in a dir while it is in another one10:46
noteventimeWe can take a look if you want?10:46
noteventimesudo locate -u10:46
noteventimefirst10:46
Dreamstarnoteventime: it worked now!!! :D it asks me to install KDE headers but the prob with cpp is gone, thx very much :)))10:47
noteventimenp10:47
noteventimeHave fun :)10:48
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noteventime'ello10:48
Dreamstarnoteventime: eheh with linux i always have fun (5 days without using windows till now and counting ^^)10:49
noteventimeNice :)10:49
Dreamstari'm writing php scripts in a pure apache/php/mysql enviroment, what to ask more?!? :D10:50
noteventimeDreamstar: gcc and g++ are installed into directories that are in the path, yes like the one found in windows, thats why I didn't think it was in another directory10:50
noteventime:)10:50
noteventimeDreamstar: Manually set up or xampp?10:50
Dreamstarmanually ;)10:50
noteventimenice10:50
Dreamstarthat's the fun :D10:50
noteventimeHave you tried AJAX?10:51
Dreamstarnope, what is it?10:51
noteventimeIt's like a javascript thingy which makes you able to call a php script without reloading the site10:51
Dreamstarwow!10:52
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noteventimeYou can make "realtime" websites :)10:52
Dreamstari was even looking for something to make my php redistribuitable, like compiling my scripts in "exe" file so that they could be usable even without a call on the net, do u think is possible?10:53
noteventimeYes10:53
noteventimeThat is possible, but not as an exe10:53
Dreamstarmmm tell me more10:54
noteventimeYou can use the php binary10:54
noteventimeSome PHP IDEs use that for previewing10:54
noteventimeyou can run like: php thepage.php <---- Not the real command10:55
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noteventimeIts pretty easy if you know basic javascript. I've almost never used Javascript, not in a few years anyway, and I figured out how to use it in less then an hour.10:55
noteventime^- ajax that is10:55
Dreamstarmmmm in this way is possible to have "standalone" php programs?10:56
noteventimeYes10:56
Dreamstareven on a windoze system?10:56
noteventimeI think it generates a html file10:56
noteventimeyes10:56
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Dreamstarok so i'll look for the php binaries right?10:57
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noteventimeso you could make a script that runt the file through php and open the generated html10:57
noteventimeDreamstar: yep10:57
Dreamstarthx :)10:57
noteventimenp10:57
noteventimeDreamstar: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-ajaxintro1.html  this is a lot more fun though ;)10:58
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Dreamstarlooking at it right now :) thx^^10:59
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noteventimehehe10:59
pulverwhat do you type to upgrade kde? sudo apt-get upgrade kde says 250 not upgraded....11:01
noteventimetry dist-upgrade11:02
Dreamstarbtw be sure that u've set the repositories with the new version11:03
Dreamstarah btw anyone here a part me using dapper drake?11:03
noteventimepulver: Du r svensk va?11:03
noteventimeYes, i do11:04
Dreamstarwhich are ur impressions on it noteventime?11:04
noteventimeIt's way better than breezy :)11:04
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noteventimeLots of stuff fixed :)11:04
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DreamstarLOL :) and btw even if it's a development version i think it's stable at least and even more than breezy!11:05
noteventimeI've had nearly no problems at all11:05
pulverwouldnt that upgrade evrything? yea the 3.5 versions are available... (japp svensk :)11:05
noteventimepulver: Bredbandsbolaget avsljade dig :D, distupgrade upgrades everything, yes11:06
noteventimeBut why wouldn't you want to upgrade everything?11:07
Dreamstarme too! never had probs! it works so smoothly11:07
noteventimeI've had a few dependency errors...11:07
noteventimeDo you have the new KOffice beta too?11:08
Dreamstarpulver last KDE version is 3.5.1, it has been made avaible even for breezy users11:08
Dreamstarnoteventime: nope, i'm openoffice addicted ^^11:08
noteventimeHehe, I like openoffice but i wan't to use KDE apps as much as possible, I love the KDE integration11:08
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DreamstarKoffice support the odt document as openoffice do?11:09
noteventimeI suppose so :) I havn't been able to install it :P11:09
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noteventimedepends on something called kexi :(11:10
Dreamstarnver heard of it :S11:10
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Dreamstarah noteventime did u notice that even in dapper when u click on th K menu it still shows 5.10 ? :D11:10
pulverhehe frstod det.. yeah maybe im using the wrong repos then pkgs are like 3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1/2/311:11
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Moleahow can I get Kmail to open links in FireFox and not Konqueror?11:11
noteventimepulver, yes there are newer ones :)11:11
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noteventimeMolea: In the user settings there is a tab called prefered applications11:12
Irvinehow to install amarok themes?11:12
noteventimein amaroK settings dialog11:12
noteventimepulver: just a min i will get the repo for you11:12
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noteventimepulver: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main11:13
noteventimeDreamstar: Lol, no i hadn't noticed that11:13
noteventimeDreamstar: It shows dapper drake at boot and shutdown though11:14
Dreamstaryep samehere! but in the K menu it says Kubuntu 5.10 ^^11:14
noteventime:) Man, thats irritating :P11:15
pulvernoteventime: danke maybe that will do it11:15
Dreamstarnoteventime: to develop using AJAX u use some kind of frameworks, of IDEs?11:15
noteventimeDreamstar: You dont need too11:15
noteventimeIt's an IBM tutorial so they make some adverticing about websphere :P11:16
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Irvinehow to use baghira?11:16
Dreamstarah ok11:16
Irvineanyone11:16
noteventimeInstall and change in window deco and style11:16
noteventimeWhats wrong with my English today :S11:17
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noteventimeIrvine: Just install it and choose it in Window decorations and style11:17
_vincenthi, I have a CD-DVD writer with different speeds for writing CD and DVD, which one should I input in k3b as the maximum speed ?11:18
Moleanoteventime: thanks :-)11:19
noteventimenp11:19
Irvinenoteventime: how?11:19
noteventimeIrvine: Have you installed it?11:19
Irvineyeah11:19
noteventimefrom apt-get/adept?11:19
Irvineok11:20
noteventime?11:20
noteventimeIt was a question :)11:20
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Irvinei install it by apt-get11:20
noteventimegood11:20
noteventimenow start system settings11:20
Dreamstar_vincent: it depends on how ur writer is burnfree or not11:21
Irvineok11:21
noteventimenow go to appearence11:21
Dreamstar_vincent: i have an old LG 32x10x40x and i use k3b at 32x with no prob at all11:21
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Irvineok11:21
noteventimeirvine: now go into style11:22
noteventimeFound it?11:22
Irvineyes11:22
noteventimeIn the widget style menu choose baghira11:23
tameritokeHey people... why do you you make the wiki under SSL?11:23
Irvineok11:23
noteventimenow press apply11:23
noteventimebut dont close the window11:24
noteventimeEverything working till now?11:24
Irvineyes11:24
noteventimeNow go to window decoratipon11:24
noteventimein the dropdown menu choose baghira11:25
noteventimeThen press apply11:25
noteventimeIrvine: Looking good? :)11:26
Irvineyes11:27
noteventimeThere are some ways to get more appleish look11:27
noteventimeThere is a guide on the webpage, do you want me to send you the link?11:28
Irvineyeah11:28
pulvernoteventime: thanks for the repo.. still don't get why the pkgs are held back when trying to upgrade them...11:28
noteventimepulver: Thats strange :/11:29
noteventimeirvine: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php11:29
noteventimepulver, lets see....11:29
noteventimepulver: Would you mind upgrading to dapper drake?11:29
Irvinenoteventime: need to download xorg?11:30
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noteventimeirvine: no, you don't have to install enythiing11:30
noteventimeirvine: It's all installed already :), skip down to the configuration part11:30
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pulverhehe.. yea maybe thats the way to go11:32
Irvinewhere is CAT configuration?11:33
noteventimepulver: It's easy, only change breezy to dapper and remove the repo i gave you11:33
Irvinenoteventime: how?11:34
noteventimeirvine: configuring the cat, apple baghira, i think :P11:34
noteventimeirvine let me see11:34
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noteventimeirvine: start "Step 2: I want a Mac OS X like menubar!"11:35
noteventimeAll above isn't needed11:35
_timhi all has anyone had trouble connecting to yahoo via kopete?11:35
pulvernoteventime: ok yea will do in a min.. after freeing some hdd space :)11:36
noteventimepulver: I can send pastebin my sources.list so you can get the new amaroK too11:36
Dreamstarnoteventime: sry do u know how to locate where something has been installed?11:36
noteventimeDreamstar: Either press details in adept11:37
pulvernoteventime: what's that?11:37
Dreamstarwell the package isn't displayed as installed in adept or synaptic :S11:37
noteventimeor locate -u (creates a database of all your files) then locate WHAT_EVER_YOU_WANT_TO_FIND11:37
Dreamstarok i'll use the second way, thx :D11:37
noteventimepulver: The best music player availible to man kind :)11:37
noteventimeDreamstar: Np11:38
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Dreamstarlol :D11:38
noteventimeThe only player availible even remotely as good as amaroK is bansee11:38
pulvernoteventime: lol so it plays music thats great11:38
Irvinenoteventime: how to change amarok themes?11:39
noteventimeIrvine: Its in the options menu :)11:39
noteventimeIrvine: I'll take a closer look11:39
noteventimeIrvine: Settings->configure amaroK->appearence->install theme11:40
noteventime!pastebin11:40
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)11:40
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Dreamstarmmmmm---with locate it seems i have not superkaramba but it still start from the K menu! strange...11:41
Irvinenoteventime: thanks11:42
noteventimeDreamstar: you did make install right?11:42
noteventimeIrvine: np11:42
Dreamstaryep noteventime11:42
noteventimepulver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9298 <- thats my config, it uses swedish mirrors, mostly11:42
Irvinenoteventime: is there any file sharing program for linux?11:42
pulverwatching the screenshots amarok looks pretty cool11:43
Dreamstari'll try restarting the system...brb11:43
pulvernoteventime: ok ty11:43
noteventimeIrvine: sure, bittorrent dc++ and frostwire11:43
noteventimepulver: frostwire uses the limewire network11:43
noteventime!register11:44
uboturegister is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))11:44
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noteventimeIrvine: bittorrent it the best bet for larger things, while frostwire is nice for small things11:45
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Irvinehow to install frostwire?11:45
noteventimesudo apt-get install frostwire11:46
raphinkIrvine: there is one way to install stuff on Ubuntu11:46
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raphinkwell one way to install them easily11:46
raphink;)11:46
Irvinehow?11:46
raphinkapt-get11:47
raphinkonce you know that, you don't really have to wonder how to install stuff11:47
raphinkIrvine: as noteventime told you11:47
IrvineCouldn't find package frostwire11:47
raphinkhmm11:47
noteventimehmmm11:47
raphinkyeah, frostwire is not in ubuntu :p11:47
Hentai^XPyou mean the repos ro w] e?11:47
noteventimeAhhhh i think its in universe11:47
raphinkwhat is it btw?11:48
samouranoteventime11:48
Hentai^XPby the way11:48
samoura:) hI11:48
Hentai^XPBTW11:48
pulvernoteventime: swedish mirrors for universe,multiverse.. do they have all the apps available?11:48
noteventimesamoura: 'ello11:48
samoura#samoura and help me please ;(11:48
samourawhat zup11:48
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noteventimepulver: Yes11:48
Hentai^XPoh nm raphink lol thought you asked "what is btw"11:48
raphinkHentai^XP: :p11:48
Hentai^XPgot a new computer!11:48
pulvernoteventime: nice11:48
raphinkhmmm11:49
raphinkfrostwire looks like yet another amule clone11:49
noteventimepulver: I've had problems with one mirror, i changed it to german11:49
samouraTUPAC shakur is alive :D11:49
raphinkemule11:49
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noteventimefrostwire is limewire11:49
noteventimegnutella11:49
Irvineemule slow11:49
arrinmurrIrvine: download, unpack, run "java -jar FrostWire.jar". but first you need java if you don't have it already - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/frostwire/FrostWire-4.10.9-1-AnyOS.zip?download11:50
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pulvernoteventime: ok11:50
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raphinkIrvine: if you want frostwire in Ubuntu, you can add it here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates11:50
Irvineraphink: how to add it?11:50
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raphinkIrvine: this is a wiki ... you edit the page, you write a line for frostwire the way other lines are written, and you save11:51
djibhey11:51
Irvinei download frostwire packages for ubuntu11:51
Dreamstarmmmm it stills run superkaramba even if it looks i don't have it on my pc O__O11:52
djibIs there a bandwidth monitor for Kubuntu ?11:52
freeflyingraphink: I think this page need impovement, then we can know package is in which status11:52
Irvinei downloaded frostwire package for ubuntu11:52
raphinkfreeflying: you're welcome to improve it :)11:52
Irvinenow how to install it?11:52
raphinkIrvine: then you run sudo dpkg -i thenameofyourfile.deb11:52
samourais there a utorrent for linux :P i want it11:52
samoura?11:52
djibor a command in konsole to type and get the size of my transfers for the last few hours ?11:53
freeflyingraphink: or merge this into lauchpad , it will be more easier for the guy prepare to package11:53
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raphinkfreeflying: that would be called RFPs then11:54
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raphinkfreeflying: or ITPs ;)11:54
raphinkfreeflying: we'll have to get to that if Ubuntu keeps growing imo though11:54
raphinkso we'll end up with (Closes : Malone #XXXXX) changelogs on REVU soon enough ;)11:54
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raphinkfreeflying: given the huge number of requests on the page, it could be interesting to introduce the need for RFPs at next TB maybe11:57
noteventimepulver: Is it working out for you?11:58
Dreamstaranybody knows if XEN can create even windoze virtual images?11:59
Hobbseeraphink: RFP?11:59
raphinkHobbsee: well taht's what this page is about12:00
Hobbseeah12:00
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raphinkHobbsee: well this is a list of candidates for universe12:01
raphinkHobbsee: in other words : programs users want to have in Ubuntu12:02
Hobbseeoh, that page, right, yes12:02
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raphinkHobbsee: if they were dealt with on LP, it would be logical to use RFPs for these12:02
Hobbseetrue12:02
voicui got kde 3.5.1 off the net and when i run make i get errors like "file abc.o not found". how can this be? (configure worked all right)12:03
raphinkHobbsee: so if there comes to be too many requests that'll be the easiest way12:03
Hobbseetrue12:03
raphinkvoicu: why would you compile it ?12:03
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noteventimevoicu: Why not get it from the repos?12:03
pulvernoteventime: it is :) downloading/upgrading "the stuff" hopefully it wont break but dont mind its fun anyway.. ty for your help12:04
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noteventimepulver: NP, worked without any problems for me12:04
voiculast time i did that i got it from the repos i messed up the system12:04
raphinkvoicu: you're gonna mess up your system much more by compiling it imho12:04
voicuso i tried to compile it12:04
raphinkvoicu: especially if you're already not able to compile it yourself12:05
raphinkif you compile kde on your system and install it, apt-get will lose the track of the existence of these files12:05
raphinkso you won't control anything in kde through apt-get anymore12:05
raphinkyou better be really good to do that ;)12:05
voicui know... the thing is that it worked yesterday and now it doesn't12:05
noteventimeapt-get everything and use deb packages for everything else: )12:05
voicui use checkinstall to keep track of what i install12:05
raphinkand given that kde is very easy to compile and you failed, I'm pretty sure you should use the binary packages12:06
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raphinkyou use checkinstall on KDE ???12:06
voicuwhy not?12:06
raphinkI can't imagine the mess you get with that ;)12:06
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raphinkespecialy that it will create packages with totally differrent names as the ones we have officially12:07
raphinkso you'll just prevent your computer from ever upgrading KDE12:07
voicuhmm, nobody said that when they suggested it to me12:07
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raphinkvoicu: who suggested you to use checkinstall on KDE?12:07
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raphinkI mean to compile KDE and use checkinstall12:07
voicui don't know, someone on irc12:08
raphinkvoicu: whoever did that surely doesn't know much about KDE packages in Debian/Ubuntu systems12:08
raphinkimo you're pretty sure to break everything on your system with that12:08
voicuwhen i asked about how to uninstall stuff12:08
raphinkso that to upgrade to next official KDE or Ubuntu12:08
raphinkyou'll need to deinstall all your checkinstall KDE stuff manually12:08
raphinkone by one12:08
raphinkand install the official packages again12:09
voicuok, great :P12:09
raphinkvoicu: really, I will never advise anyone but a developer to install KDE by compiling12:09
raphinkunless you want to have fun12:09
noteventimevoicu: Upgrade to dapper drake :)12:09
raphinkor you are running a slack12:09
Chousukeraphink: unless he's a gentoo user12:09
raphinkChousuke: no, a slack user12:10
raphinkChousuke: gentoo users don't build from tar.gz12:10
voicuoh, right, i forgot... the idea was to install two versions of kde on the same computer12:10
Chousukewell, they do12:10
Chousukebut it's automated12:10
voicuall this trouble made me forget the main purpose :P12:10
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ChousukeI wanted to install some KDE apps on my system but funk doesn't work ;p12:10
Chousukefink*12:10
dwkrhi12:10
raphinkChousuke: you're on MacOS?12:11
raphinkhi dwkr12:11
dwkri need some help12:11
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Chousukeraphink: yes.12:11
raphinkvoicu: do you want a working system, upgradable and all? or are you just playing around ?12:11
noteventimedwkr: Just ask, don't ask about asking :D12:11
freeflyingChousuke: what's u meant "fink dosen't work"12:11
Chousukefreeflying: it fails12:11
raphinkChousuke: ah! I had it work pretty well some time ago12:12
Chousukeit fails at building python :/12:12
voicuraphink: well, i wanted to install kde 3.5.1 and keep kde 3.4.0 too. if i like the new one i'll keep it and forget 3.412:12
dwkri have just finished to put dapper drake but at xorg configuration the sreen start corrupt12:12
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raphinkvoicu: and how do you plan to do that?12:12
raphinkvoicu: why, tell me, don't you use Kubuntu Dapper Flight 4 to test kde 3.5.1 on live CD ?12:13
dwkrso i dont know what i have put for root password12:13
voicuby installing kde 3.5.1 in a different directory and i can't do that by installing packages, right?12:13
raphinkvoicu: instead of bugging your system like this12:13
voicui wanted to see if i'm able to do it12:13
raphinkvoicu: if you want to try out kde 3.5.1, why don't you use a live CD ?12:14
raphinkvoicu: oh right ;)12:14
raphinkwell then fine12:14
raphinkdo it :)12:14
Chousukeinstalling KDE from sources is a painful process.12:14
dwkrhow do i change/remove root password, but i dont have the old one12:14
raphinkChousuke: no, its not, it's just very long12:14
Chousukeraphink: yes, that's what I meant ;P12:14
raphinkdwkr: do you have a root password already?12:14
noteventimedwkr: if you havn't created one yes, sudo passwd root12:14
Chousukeand if it fails, you'll be pissed.12:14
dwkrsure but i dont know it12:14
raphinkChousuke: hehe yes12:15
voicuthe thing is that make doesn't find some files. i didn't change anything in the sources. how can that happen?12:15
Chousukeraphink: and remember that he will have to resolve any dependencies manually too12:15
dwkrok noteventime i trie that12:15
raphinkdwkr: how do you know you've got one ?12:15
raphinkvoicu: what do you use to compile kde ?12:15
dwkrjust press enter fo the reste of installation but dont know what 've do12:15
raphinkChousuke: yes, I know that, thats' what I said : he''s going to bug his system entirely12:15
raphinkdwkr: did you install in expert mode?12:16
Chousukeraphink: it's possible to do cleanly too12:16
voicui have gcc3.3, g++ 3.3, automake 1.9 and all the dependant packages12:16
dwkrpasswd: password updated successfully12:16
Chousukejust install to /usr/local/12:16
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dwkrno normal mode12:16
noteventimeyo kitsch :)12:16
dwkrit seem i dont have one before :p12:16
raphinkdwkr: then you had no root password so far, and it would have probably been better to keep none12:16
voicuraphink: if configure works, why does make give me errors?12:16
raphinkby default you have no root password, adn that's how it's meant to be12:16
dwkrthanks12:17
raphinkvoicu: because you might miss some dependencies I guess12:17
dwkri have one now12:17
raphinkvoicu: many times, configure works and make fails ;)12:17
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raphinkvoicu: tens of times a day I'm afraid I get configure scrits that are happy with everything, and make fails12:17
raphinkpff12:17
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voicuraphink: ok, that seems a nasty job trying to get all the dependencies12:18
raphinknoteventime: imo it's better to explain users why they don't have a root password and how to use sudo ...12:18
dwkrdamn adept not working12:18
voicui guess i'll leave it alone :P12:18
raphinkvoicu: it's a horrible job. Ask Riddell about it ;)12:18
raphinkdwkr: adept won't be working with your root password12:19
noteventimeraphink: I always think they already know but need su for some reason :)12:19
raphinknoteventime: ask before thinking this12:19
raphinks/thinking/assuming/12:19
noteventimeraphink: Yes, i know i should have :P12:19
raphink;)12:19
dwkrraphink: it doesnt load anything12:19
dwkrit doesnt ask any password12:19
raphinkvoicu: you'll need to set your kde paths manually, too12:20
noteventimedwkr: Do you know how to use sudo?12:20
dwkryeah12:20
dwkrsudo command :p12:20
raphinkhhmpf12:20
dwkrtype password12:20
raphinkwhy would you need a root account dwkr ?12:20
noteventimedwkr: Your better of using sudo, only use su if you realy need to12:20
voicuraphink: that i managed, thankfully12:20
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noteventimeYou need an root account to install crossoveroffice12:21
raphinkah12:21
dwkradept asked me root password12:21
noteventimeYou use your own :)12:22
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noteventimeit uses sudo :)12:22
raphinkdwkr: adept asks your own password, using kdesu (equ. of sudo)12:22
raphinknoteventime: s/sudo/kdesu/ this is very differnt although the result is the same12:22
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raphinknoteventime: kdesu is not sudo, it asks for your own password, but makes you root (like user root) whereas sudo doesn't make you root but only gives you root rights12:23
Hobbseeok, i think i'm back lol12:23
raphinkHobbsee: it seems you are12:23
noteventimeraphink: Really, I should have known that when trying to install crossoveroffice12:23
raphinknoteventime: ;)12:24
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raphinknoteventime: using sudo -i has quite the same effect, too, imo12:24
Hobbseeraphink: been having lots of fun with this new kernel freezing, or just plain not booting - now most recently my kopete wouldnt sign in - i just gave up and went to 2.6.15-15-38612:24
raphinkHobbsee: argh12:24
raphinkthe kernel boots fine here, but the comp doesn't shut down ;)12:24
Hobbseeheh great12:25
Hobbseehad some of that too - power button works well12:25
raphinklol12:25
raphinkI think it's kdm again, that doesn't want to be shut down12:25
Hobbseeugh12:25
raphinkHobbsee: yeah sure ;)12:25
raphinkI think I'll be installing DF5 when it comes out12:25
Hobbseethis is revenge for saying that i wasnt having many bugs, wasnt it!12:25
raphinkor maybe even DF412:25
raphinkhaving a brand clean account12:26
raphinkwith Tonio's settings :)12:26
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Hobbseegood idea12:27
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dwkrrhaa12:31
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tomas_hello people12:34
noteventime'ello12:34
tomas_is there anyone that can help me with some packeting?12:34
noteventime:) I'll do my best12:35
Hobbseesome packeting?12:35
tomas_:)12:35
tomas_ah :P12:35
tomas_i have a package with a depency problem on dapper drake12:35
stonedI want to run amarok/etc. or other apps which use sound, that are running on laptop, so send thier sound over to the arts server running on desktop.  so that i don't have to keep switching wires.  like all the laptop sound gets to desktop ove the network and comes out of my desktop speakers12:35
tomas_but there is package in dapper drake that can replace it12:35
tomas_so i want to go inside the .deb file and change the depency12:35
tomas_dependency12:35
noteventimeok12:36
tomas_do you know how?12:36
noteventimeOpen the deb file in ark and take a look :912:37
tomas_i have12:37
tomas_i changed the depency in control also12:37
tomas_and used dpkg12:37
tomas_to build the package12:37
tomas_it worked12:37
raphinknoteventime: now that is a dirty practice12:37
noteventime:)12:37
raphinkhehe12:37
tomas_but when i try to install it complains something about rm12:37
tomas_*-)12:37
noteventimerm?12:38
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tomas_yes12:38
tomas_i will try to translate it into english :P12:38
noteventimeraphink: Now I only helped him/her, It was his/her idea :-) I'm compleatly inocent, hehe12:38
raphinktomas_: paste it as is12:38
raphinknoteventime: yeah yeah12:38
tomas_raphink: in swedish?12:39
tomas_raphink: are you sure about that ;)12:39
raphinktomas_: if you there is a dependency issue in dapper drake, I'd rather you report it to malone so it's fixed officially12:39
raphinktomas_: ja :)12:39
noteventimegr s12:39
tomas_aha12:39
tomas_s ni r svenskar :P12:39
tomas_men hjlp12:40
tomas_vad man ska jobba sig :P12:40
raphink:)12:40
raphinknoteventime: ah du talar svenska ?12:40
noteventimeBorde ha stt p telia.se12:40
noteventimeraphink: Hehe, tydligen12:40
raphinkhehe :)12:40
ChousukeMeh.12:40
tomas_"rmdir" p paketets kontrollinformation "usr" svarade inte "ej katalog": Katalog inte tom12:40
raphinktomas_: ok go on paste your output12:41
raphinktomas_: and please reoprt the bug, so everybody benefits from the fix12:41
raphinktomas_: even even post a patch if you fixed thebug12:41
ChousukeIt's been so long since I studied swedish that I don't even understand all of that ;P12:41
raphinkChousuke: kind of same here ;)12:41
tomas_raphink: maybe i should tell you that this deb isnt a part of the repository :p12:41
raphinktomas_: what deb is it?12:41
Chousuketomas_: that's normal then I suppose.12:42
tomas_raphink: it's called ktechlab and is working in dapper drake (expect that any packager manager removes it due to dependecy problem12:42
raphinktomas_: do you plan on getting it in Ubuntu?12:42
tomas_http://ktechlab.org/12:42
Chousuketomas_: I've gotten that sometimes. It doesn't really hurt.12:42
tomas_it just the depency were changed to kdelibs4c2a or whatever it's called it wont complain12:43
tomas_if12:43
tomas_dependency12:43
raphinktomas_: seems like a nice app, you could try to get it in Dapper+112:43
tomas_oki12:43
noteventimetomas_ I had that one too12:43
noteventimetomas_ I compiled it though12:43
raphinktomas_: then building it again would b emuch better, if you can find the package sources12:43
tomas_i will try to look into the .deb once again cause i saw that the data.tar.gz was empty :$12:43
raphinkthe dependencies will be updated automatically with your version of the libs12:44
raphinklooking into the deb is dirty12:44
noteventimehehe12:44
raphinkbuilding it is the way12:44
tomas_but12:44
noteventimebad hacks are nice :)12:44
tomas_i wonder where there aren't any good graphical .deb maniupulator12:44
tomas_why12:44
raphinktomas_: because we never work on .deb files12:44
tomas_=?12:45
tomas_mkay12:45
raphinktomas_: we build deb files for installation12:45
noteventimeYou create deb files12:45
raphinkbut we never edit them12:45
raphinkor quite12:45
raphinktomas_: when you create an openoffice document12:45
raphinkwould you ever try to read and mofidy the binary ?12:45
raphinkthat would be stupid12:45
noteventime:) but geek12:46
tomas_it would12:46
raphinknoteventime: I make a different between geek practices and useless/stupid ones12:46
tomas_but .deb isn't oo documents ;)12:46
raphinktomas_: .deb is binary stuff12:46
tomas_there are some readable data in .debs12:46
noteventimeraphink: Useless geekish stuff :D12:46
raphinkit contains binary contents12:46
tomas_okioki12:46
tomas_back to source then12:47
raphinktomas_: we work on the sources12:47
tomas_any good tutorial to do packeting?12:47
raphinkorig.tar.gz, diff.gz and dsc12:47
tomas_packeting for n00bs12:47
raphinktomas_: sure, the New Debian Maintainer's Guide12:47
tomas_i hope its a crash course :p12:47
Hobbseelol12:47
Hobbseeit's certainly comprehensive12:48
tomas_just what i didnt want to hear :p12:48
raphinktomas_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Packaging/Tips12:48
Hobbseehehe12:48
tomas_does anyone knows the status for libfmod?12:48
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tomas_are we gonna se it soon?12:48
raphinktomas_: Dapper Drake is in FeatureFreeze12:48
raphinkso if it's not in now, it won't be in 2 months12:48
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raphink;)12:48
raphinkthat's the status12:49
tomas_if i dont fix it myself then :p12:49
tomas_motiviation to learn :p12:49
tomas_vation12:49
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raphinkif you want packages in Ubuntu, you get them in ;)12:49
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raphinktomas_: the best way for you to be sure to get ktechlab in  Dapper+1 is to get it in yourself12:49
tomas_i will see what i can do then :)12:49
tomas_thank you all for your help :)12:49
tomas_have a nice day12:49
tomas_hej d ;)12:50
raphinktomas_: hand on on #ubuntu-motu for help12:50
raphink#kubuntu is not for packaging stuff, #ubuntu-motu is12:50
raphink;)12:50
tomas_thank you12:50
tomas_bye12:50
raphinkhej da, tomas :)12:50
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noteventimeHehe, mnga svenska som anvnder kubuntu XD12:51
raphinknoteventime: hehe12:53
raphinkbut french people are already taking it over :p12:53
noteventimehaha12:54
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raphinkhehe12:54
raphinkand we have Riddell and dholbach on our side :p12:55
noteventimei found 5 others12:55
noteventimeby looking at domain12:55
raphinkfor what?12:55
raphinkah?12:55
noteventimeIn the user list omn the right12:55
raphinklet's see12:55
noteventimekitsch and malte12:56
noteventimeare those i remember right now12:56
samourais there a boy who is a irc Pro ?12:56
samourais there a boy who is a irc Pro ?12:56
raphinkwhat's the problem samoura ?12:57
noteventimeosh_12:57
raphinkwhat is it that you want most? a boy or an irc pro?12:57
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noteventimeWhat about a female IRC pro?12:57
Hobbseeheh12:58
noteventimeawwww is swedish12:58
Hobbseenoteventime: females dont exist on the internet12:58
noteventimeahhh12:58
Hobbseehehe12:58
noteventimepulver is awwww12:58
raphinkanyone has seen Hobbsee around?12:58
noteventimeYes12:58
Hobbseeraphink: hmmm?12:59
noteventime:)12:59
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raphinkI can't see her12:59
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raphinkseems she's disappeared12:59
raphinkdoh! females don't exist on the internet12:59
Hobbseehehe12:59
yellohi everyone im having some problems playing dvds has anyon experienced this before?12:59
Hobbseeof course, yes12:59
Hobbseei'm an illusion12:59
raphinkyello yello12:59
yellosorry to interupt12:59
yellolol hi12:59
raphinkdid you install libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 yello?12:59
yello... no12:59
yelloill check on adept01:00
raphinkthen do01:00
yellothanks01:00
Hobbseeraphink: noteventime and whoever else:  http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/2701:00
noteventimeyou need to add PLF repos01:00
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raphinkyou won't find libdvdcss2 on adept though yello01:00
pulverthis dist-upgrade thingy is gonna take all day lol01:00
raphinknoteventime: noooooooooo!01:00
raphinkno plf repo please01:00
noteventimelibdvdcss are in the PLF repos01:00
raphinkhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:00
noteventimehaha, you dont like those either?01:00
raphinklibdvdcss can be installed from libdvdread3 with a script01:00
raphinkI don't want users to have plf and then complain about non official debs they can't control01:01
raphinknoteventime: we try to make ubuntu reliable01:01
raphinkusing plf doesn't help01:01
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yellook via terminal01:01
yello:D01:01
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noteventimeraphink: comeon it's like three ppackages01:01
raphinknoteventime: no, it's like a repository in sources.list01:02
noteventimew32codecs libdvdcss and the sun-jre01:02
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yelloit all seems to be working01:02
raphinkyello good01:02
Dreamstarhei people anybody has fixed the prob with sound configu?01:02
noteventimeyou can remove it afterward :)01:02
yelloi had libdvdread01:02
yellojust not the libdvdcss201:02
raphinkwhat problem Dreamstar ?01:02
yellofingers crossed01:02
raphinkyello oh ok01:03
raphinkso you just had to launch the script01:03
Dreamstari mean about device being busy for the system sounds so that other app can't use that device01:03
yellowoah01:03
yellothanks so much01:03
yellolinux is just gettin easier and easier01:03
yellothanku all so much :D01:03
noteventimeDreamster: You could tunnel through artsdsp01:03
Dreamstarartsdsp?how to use it?01:04
noteventimeartsdsp THE_APPLICATION01:04
noteventimeSome apps start throught scripts, and raphink probably won't let me tell you to add artsdsp to the starter script01:05
Dreamstarso for example i should put "artsdsp" before the calling of the app iin the K menu noteventime?01:05
noteventimeyes01:05
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raphinknoteventime: hehe01:05
noteventimejust try it in the termina l first01:05
iwanghelo201:05
noteventimeto see that it works01:05
raphinknoteventime: I'd so like users to report all the things they find to malone, that would be so helpful01:05
noteventimeiwang: 'ello01:05
iwangello01:05
noteventimeWhy isn't there a way to make evertthing go through artS :)01:06
Dreamstarartsdsp is an application? it looks i dont have it01:06
iwangsumone01:06
iwangcan u help me for mounting drice01:06
iwang*drive01:06
noteventimedrice?01:06
noteventimeaha01:06
noteventimesure01:06
iwangcan u pm me01:06
noteventimeWhy?01:07
iwanghehe01:07
iwangeasy to communicate01:07
Dreamstardamn adept doesnt find artsdsp :(01:07
noteventimeits installed01:07
noteventimeby kde01:07
iwangactually01:07
Dreamstarah ok i'll try so01:07
iwangi got 3 partition01:07
noteventimeiwang: better do it here so others can se01:07
noteventimeok01:07
iwangbut rite now only one can be read/open01:08
noteventimeraphink can tell you whats dengerous to do, haha :D01:08
raphinknoteventime: :p01:08
_samouranoteeventime01:08
raphinkiwang: what are the formats of each of your partitions ?01:08
noteventimesorry, I just had tp01:08
iwangntfs01:08
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hatake_kakashi!tell iwang about ntfs01:08
raphinkiwang: you know you won't be able to write on ntfs, and only be able to read as root01:09
iwangntfs for windows rite01:09
raphinkuntill you get to Dapper01:09
raphinkiwang: yes01:09
raphinkhatake_kakashi: seems like the bot is off01:09
iwanghow to make is as ext01:09
raphinkubotu: hello!!!!!!!!!!!01:09
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, raphink01:09
hatake_kakashiraphink: the bot is still there01:09
Dreamstarnoteventime: it didnt work, as i open amarok it's still says that the alsa device is busy :(01:09
raphinkiwang: you remove it and make a new one ;)01:09
raphinkiwang: but windows won't work on ext01:09
hatake_kakashiiwang: backup data, repartition, format and then put the data back.. that's how I'm planning to do it01:09
noteventimeaha01:10
iwangits ok01:10
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raphinkan option might be install windows on fat32 instead iwang01:10
iwangim not using windows anymore01:10
noteventimeDreamstar: amaroK can use artS01:10
hatake_kakashiraphink: though there is ext2 fs for windows.. which can also do ext301:10
raphinkhatake_kakashi: dapper's kernel supports ntfs iirc01:10
raphinkthat's another option01:10
iwanghow to remove it from terminal01:10
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noteventimego to settings then engine01:10
hatake_kakashiraphink: though not in rw mode, only ro mode :)01:10
raphinkhatake_kakashi: yes, you can read/write ext on windows, but not boot on it imo01:10
raphinkah01:10
iwangok01:10
iwangi try go to setting and engine01:11
hatake_kakashiraphink: ahh yes of course not, windows is dodgy ;)01:11
Dreamstarwell i dont have the arts for amarok, i'll take them from the repos of the beta?01:11
raphinkiwang: use gparted to remove the partitions01:11
noteventimeDreamster: configure-> amaroK -> engine -> there you probably can choose artS01:11
raphinkor qtparted01:11
iwanghow to use im01:11
iwangim nooB01:11
raphinkiwang: do you have gparted installed?01:11
Dreamstarnoteventime: i only have gstreamer for amarok01:11
raphinkor qtparted01:11
hatake_kakashisearch for parted HOWTO iwang01:11
noteventimeDreamster: A few cm down01:12
Dreamstarah found it! ok it's working now01:12
noteventimenice01:12
noteventimeHave fun :)01:12
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Dreamstarand for the other apps instead i can use artsdsp? (skype, teamspeak2 and so on)?01:12
noteventimeDreamster: mostly yes01:13
Dreamstaroki thank u sooooooooooo much :)01:13
noteventimenp01:13
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raphinkiwang: right?01:14
iwangyero01:15
iwangthanks01:15
iwangdone already01:15
iwangmwach@01:15
raphinkgood :)01:15
raphinkwell done01:16
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iwangmay i know tools like adobe photoshop01:18
raphinkgimp, krita01:19
iwangizit?01:19
iwanghurm01:19
iwangi got trouble with gimp01:19
iwanghehe01:19
iwangok now01:19
raphinkwell gimp is maybe the best equivalent to photoship around01:19
iwangi got sumthing to do01:20
raphinkalthough krita is getting very good now01:20
iwangthanks for ur help01:20
raphinknp01:20
iwangwe meet again later01:20
iwangtha~01:20
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raphinksure01:20
noteventimeYay i'm back01:20
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raphinkand I'm belly01:20
noteventimeOk01:21
noteventimeWell, thats good for you :D01:21
raphinkhej noteventime :) hur gar dej ?01:21
raphinkhmmpf01:21
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noteventimejodu, bara bra01:21
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tomas_hall igen :p01:21
raphink:)01:21
noteventimeHejsan01:22
raphinkah, welcome back tomas_01:22
tomas_fick en /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline nr jag gjorde en make, any ideas?01:22
raphinktomas_: I had a quick look at ktechlab, seems interesting01:22
raphinkand the libs are already in dapper01:22
tomas_dont try to steal it for me :p01:22
noteventimeIts cool01:22
tomas_im compiling ;)01:22
tomas_:P01:22
raphinktomas_: I won't steal it01:23
raphinktomas_: just know that it won't get in Ubuntu before dapper+1 though01:23
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noteventimeI've used it, didn't get it to use gsimul, or whatever its called, though01:23
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tomas_noteventime: are you running dapper?01:23
noteventimeYes01:23
tomas_it works perfectly here for me :)01:23
raphink:)01:23
tomas_except that synaptic removes it everytime cause of dependency issues :P01:23
noteventimeNot when I ran ktechlab though01:23
raphinktomas_: so are you currently packaging ktechlab?01:23
tomas_i dont know :p01:23
tomas_trying to compile it :p01:24
tomas_"/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline"01:24
noteventimereadline is a library01:24
tomas_that i have installed :)01:24
raphinkyou need to find where realine lib is01:24
raphinkand have your package depend on it01:24
noteventimeits not in a path probably01:24
raphinkyep01:24
tomas_just what i thought :/01:24
noteventimeWhat is the name of the lib path again?01:25
tomas_i dont know :p01:25
tomas_readline :p01:25
tomas_?01:25
tomas_i have a libreadline.so.5 in my lib01:25
tomas_if thats the file *-)01:25
noteventimeI have a python lib called readline01:25
raphinkhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=readl01:25
raphinkfunny01:26
noteventime/lib/libreadline.so.5.101:26
noteventime/lib/libreadline.so.501:26
noteventime/lib/libreadline.so.4.301:26
noteventime/lib/libreadline.so.401:26
raphinkhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=readline&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i38601:26
noteventimehehe01:26
raphinksorry01:26
tomas_so do i only need to PATH=/lib/libreadline.so.5?01:26
raphinkah01:26
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raphinkin libreadline?01:26
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tomas_"/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline"01:27
tomas_i dont want this error01:27
tomas_:p01:27
noteventimeIsnt there a special path for libraries?01:27
raphinkI'd patch configure01:27
raphinkhehe01:27
tomas_*-)01:27
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noteventime:-) What a surprice :)01:27
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noteventimetomas_: You better use kcontrol01:28
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tomas_KControl? for what?01:28
noteventimeEditing the path01:28
tomas_ah01:28
raphinkkcontrol?01:28
tomas_Systeminstllningarna ;)01:28
tomas_or something01:28
noteventimesysteminstllningar is buggy01:28
noteventimei like kcontrol better01:28
tomas_yup01:29
raphinkso buggy that I don't have it :p01:29
noteventimejust put kcontrol in run01:29
raphinklol01:29
noteventimehehe01:29
tomas_:p01:29
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raphinkyeah01:29
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raphinksystemsettings was released in ubuntu too fast01:29
raphinkwe shouldn't have it imo01:29
raphinks/fast/early/01:29
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noteventimeI didn't know kcontrol was still there till yesterday :)01:29
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noteventimeSo i have been using systemsettingsXD01:30
tomas_:p01:30
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tomas_its nice that moodin or whatever its called was included in dapper :)01:31
raphinkyes01:31
raphinkand it's now defauilt01:31
raphinksince 3 days ago01:31
raphinkwe have a brand new kdm theme + kslash01:31
raphinkusing moodin :)01:31
raphinkthat will be in dapper flight 5 :)01:31
noteventimeIt is?01:31
raphinkyep :)01:32
noteventimeCool01:32
raphinkjust try it :)01:32
noteventimeI had to compile it myself :)01:32
raphinkno it's in main now01:32
noteventimeIt wasn't in the repo, please forgive me01:32
raphink:;)01:32
raphink:)01:32
raphinkand installed by default in kubuntu01:32
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noteventimeWhen is dapper released01:33
raphink19th of april :)01:34
noteventimeOMG, adept died on me for the first time :O01:34
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tomplasti had a nice time last time i updated dapper :p01:34
raphinknow it's bug fixing, polishing, polishing :)01:34
noteventimeyay, 3 days before my birthsday01:34
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tomplastit was yesterday when i ran both ubuntu and dapper and i just had  updated dapper01:34
tomplasti couldn't login :p01:34
tomplasti got a x error :p01:34
tomplastsomething about one_level :p01:34
raphinkhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule01:35
raphinkkubuntu has been polished quite a lot lately01:35
raphinkthanks to Tonio01:35
noteventimeOMG, adept is dead :P01:35
tomplastisnt  that normal :p01:36
tomplastany btw, was adept gonna get a new look?01:36
raphinkit is01:36
tomplastwith some pictures i hope :p01:36
raphinkdapper now has more adept stuff01:36
tomplasti saw a screenshot for adept 2.0 i think01:36
raphinkadept itself has a new look01:36
raphinkthen adept_installer is an easy to use interface01:37
raphinkfor most common apps01:37
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tomplastand btw the adept notifier or whatever its called is not so good01:37
raphinkand there's adept_notifier01:37
noteventimelol, adept wont even start anymore :P01:37
HEYhui01:37
raphinkworking with adept-updater01:37
HEYhi01:37
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raphinktomplast: why?01:37
noteventimeil make restart X and hope for the best01:37
tomplastlike it seems that it checks once a day for updates01:37
raphinknoteok01:37
tomplastoften i start adept-updater01:37
raphinktomplast: sure01:37
tomplastand then the notifier finds something :p01:38
kmonHi, doesnanyone here know if installing turbogears as they say on their web will screw my current ubuntu installation?01:38
tomplastevery 15th minute would be good01:38
raphinktomplast: taht's very normal01:38
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tomplastor setting the checking time yourself01:38
raphinktomplast: every 15 minute is too much for most people01:38
raphinktomplast: you can set it yourself ;)01:38
tomplastyeah but if you could set it yourself :)01:38
raphinksudo crontab -e01:38
tomplastah :p01:38
tomplasthow :p01:38
tomplastaha :p01:38
raphinkand there you go01:38
raphinktomplast: the check for updates is independant from adept-notifier01:39
tomplastoki01:39
raphinkadept-notifier does nothing01:39
zblachhi. my kd is having some weirdness. i cannot access shells with ctrl+alt+f#. how can this be fixed?01:39
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raphinkit just grabs the apt cache01:39
tomplast:p01:39
tomplastoki01:39
noteventimeyay01:39
raphinkthe upadate is ran as a crontab01:39
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raphinkzblach: did you check if you didn't push the F lock key by mistake ?01:40
tomplastmy crontab is empty :p01:40
noteventimeHmm... Why is there another background between my KDM theme and my splashscreen01:40
tomplastshould it be that :xp:?01:40
zblachregardless of FLock's status, i cannot switch to a shell01:40
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raphinktomplast: not yours, the root's :p01:40
noteventimeI changed the roots01:41
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noteventimeIt's still the same01:41
tomplasti ran it with sudo01:41
raphinkhmm01:41
tomplastso shouldnt i see anything then ?01:41
zblachi remember trying to enable other keys on my board, and switching it to utf8 mode? '+<space> = '01:41
raphinktomplast: must be another crontab then01:41
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tomplastor maybe it never updates :p01:42
raphinktomplast: :p01:42
raphinktomplast: you should ask mornfall about that01:42
tomplastmaybe i should try to reinstall adept-notifier or something01:42
noteventimeraphink: My login would be so nice if i could get the background away :)01:42
tomplastsomeday :p01:42
raphinknoteventime: that's easy01:42
tomplasti have some creepy ekorre as bootsplash01:42
tomplastthe guy from ice age01:42
raphinknoteventime: with kdmtheme01:43
noteventimeraphink: I have kdmtheme01:43
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noteventimeraphink: And I have changed my theme and my splash screen so they match01:43
raphinknoteventime: oh no sorry it's not in kdmtheme it's in the login manager in kcontrol01:43
noteventimeok01:43
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zblachraphink, FLock nothing doing01:44
raphinkzblach: weird01:44
raphinkdid you try restarting KDE zblach ?01:44
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zblachafter toggling the FLock?01:44
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zblachi've had kb strangeness for a few weeks01:44
raphinkah01:45
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noteventimeLets hope it works now01:46
noteventimeWhat is the command to the the kernel version again?01:48
hugelmopfuname -r01:48
noteventimethanks01:49
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tomplasthave anyone tried perlbox?02:00
tomplasthttp://perlbox.org/02:01
tomplastit has speech recognition ;)02:01
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noteventime:D yay raphink it worked, weee consistend look and feel02:02
raphink:D02:02
noteventimeYou would'nt by any chance know where to get the newet kexi as a deb? X)02:03
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cigahi02:05
cigacan I read perldoc in a konqueror window?02:05
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cigalike man:// ?02:05
raphinknoteventime: building the debian sid version?02:05
FiNeZHello!02:06
noteventimeraphink: I dunno, just one so i caninstall the koffice meta package02:07
noteventimeciga: yes02:08
noteventime'ello02:08
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noteventimeciga: I think02:09
ciganoteventime: :)02:09
madasalut02:09
noteventimeGeetings02:09
ciganoteventime: I can find a way: man:/usr/share/man/man3/open.3perl.gz , but what about pods and other stuffs?02:09
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noteventimeciga: I'm sorry I dont even know what a pod is XD, but i know you can read UNIX man pages with man://02:10
_samoura_noteventime what is agein the irc.simnet.is ip ?02:11
noteventimesamoura: ping irc.simnet.is02:12
noteventimeand you will see the ip02:12
_samoura_what pin where write?02:12
noteventimeping in the console02:12
noteventimeDoes someone know a book about design patterns in C++ XD02:12
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=== noteventime Just realised this is not the right place to ask at all
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noteventimeCould someone give me a nice subversion frontend for KDE?02:29
noteventimekatapult is the best thing that ever happened to an OS X)02:31
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_samoura_noteventime what do i do when i enter ls and than  psotnic-current-1.tar.gz but there is no output  :S02:40
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_samoura_samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ls02:44
_samoura_commands   psotnic-0.2.7         psotnic-current-1.tar.gz02:44
_samoura_commands~  psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz  psotnic-current.tar.gz02:44
_samoura_conf.hub   psotnic-current       trash.desktop02:44
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noteventimels outputs whats in the current directory02:46
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noteventimepsotnic-current-1.tar.gz is a gzipped tar kinda like a zip or rar02:47
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_samoura_noteventime how do i move that psotnic to home folder  by konsole how02:55
_samoura_please tell me :P02:55
_samoura_samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$  move to home folder ?02:56
_samoura_i am learning this i have just installd i fail by my salfe :P02:57
_samoura_:D i am the best ever was02:58
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_samoura_#ubuntu03:11
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SirKillalotdo you know a volume manager with OSD?03:12
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noteventimesamoura: mv FILE_TO_MOVE WHERE_TO_MOVE03:17
_samoura_ mv psotnic ~/home/ ?03:19
noteventime~ means home03:19
noteventimemv psotnic ~/03:19
_samoura_samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$ mv psotnic ~/03:20
_samoura_samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$03:20
noteventime:)03:20
_samoura_fine?03:20
noteventimeyes03:21
_samoura_okei how do i copy?03:21
Ilokaasucp what where03:21
noteventimeif you want output you need to ad -v like mv -v psotnic ~/03:21
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noteventimemv - move    cp - copy     rm - remove03:21
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_samoura_#samoura  noteventime i thnik you can help me with the rest :P03:22
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Acidic32!kde3.503:30
ubotu(you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".03:30
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ryanakca!named03:47
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ryanakca03:47
ryanakca!bind03:47
uboturyanakca: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:47
ryanakcaanybody know if BIND/named creates the domain? like say I wanted a domain say... ryanakca.org, would it create it, or would it just say that ryanakca.org is at 24.226.20.171?03:48
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fjellrev1Anyone here have any experience with nvidia and tv out??i found something called nvtv,but the program seems to disappear04:02
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Pingjockeygood morning folks, quick question on usb audio04:17
PingjockeyTrying to get the EQ to work using xmms with no luck.. is that normal??04:18
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tid-wavehello! in ichat style, kopete displays white background for text04:29
tid-waveit looks very annoying04:29
tid-wave(breezy)04:29
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jpatrickhola pablud04:32
raphinkhola chiquito04:32
pabludhola04:33
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samoura#samoura04:37
kubby510hello everyone04:38
ryanakcaanybody know where I can find the kubuntu logo on a transparent background???04:39
jpatrickhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork04:40
ryanakcaty04:41
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tomas_hi everyone05:21
tomas_are there any kubuntu-devs here?05:21
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jpatrickme05:22
tomas_:)05:22
tomas_good05:22
tomas_one annoying bug in kde is when i try to make a file runable05:22
jpatrickknown05:23
tomas_it works but i get a messagebox with the path to the file05:23
tomas_aha05:23
tomas_:)05:23
tomas_can you also tell me if its possible to access a sony handycam through usb?05:24
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jpatrickshould be05:24
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tomas_Much people says no but nothing is possible imo05:25
xwolf-is there a way to list recently installed packages?05:25
richard2Some know how to access a share folders?05:25
jpatrickxwolf-: /var/log/dpkg.log05:25
tomas_jpatrick: can you tell me why amarok hangs when trying to play a stream?05:26
jpatricktomas_: tried using a different engine05:26
jpatrick?05:26
xwolf-what about uninstalling some of them?05:27
tomas_jpatrick: xine worked before :/05:27
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tomas_hmm05:27
tomas_jpatrick: the playlist is finished as soon as i start a song :/05:28
jpatricksome problem with your sound server then05:28
tomas_some other sound works05:28
tomas_and amarok seems to believe that each song is 0 sec long :/05:28
tomas_i'll try with reinstalling amarok and xine05:29
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jpatrickanything on the status bar?05:29
tomas_there is a big bubble that says the song title05:29
tomas_but just a half second comes the next "playlist finished"05:30
tomas_after05:30
DevGettomas_: have you set the correct enegine?05:31
tomas_i have xine now05:31
tomas_i have done this before05:31
tomas_worked in breezy05:31
tomas_and in dapper05:31
tomas_before05:31
tomas_i will try gstreamer as well05:31
jpatrickgstreamer got pulled out in dapper05:32
tomas_aha05:32
tomas_maybe i can change automatic to alsa05:32
tomas_or oss05:32
tomas_*-)05:32
tomas_i dont think it will help but trying isnt wrong05:32
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ryanakcahow do you make firefox your default web browser in kde?05:33
ryanakca(instead of konqueror)05:33
irvkenwhat does mepis have/do that kubuntu does not?05:33
jpatrickryanakca: kcontrol05:33
tomas_irvken: an ugly control panel :p05:34
irvkenwhy might anyone use mepis over kubuntu05:34
paguxhello kubututites05:34
pagux:-)05:34
tomas_hi pagux05:34
jpatrickhello pagux05:34
aeon17xThat has too many t's05:34
ccc_irvken: nothing imo05:34
paguxhi guys05:34
tomas_is advertising recommendened here :p05:34
irvkenbut thousnads of them do05:34
tomas_or some tipping :p05:34
tomas_cause i know a poker site which have nice freerolls :)05:35
irvkenI run mepis05:35
tomas_that works in linux ;)05:35
JakubSirvken: it is usable immediately after installation05:35
paguxanybody ever ran java webstart on kubuntu ?05:35
aeon17xtomas_: better do it on the offtopic channel, I guess.05:35
jpatricktomas_: xine works here05:35
JakubSfor kubuntu you have to install lots of stuff first05:35
tomas_jpatrick: :/05:35
irvkenah05:35
tomas_pagux: i have, just a couple of mins ago05:35
jpatrick(breezy)05:35
irvkenexamples JakubS05:36
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tomuchohello05:36
irvkendo you mean openoffice or do you mean apache05:36
paguxthomas :javaweb start  with jdk 1.5 ?05:36
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McScruffis there a firewall running by default on kubuntu?05:36
JakubSirvken: working java/flash/mplayers/codecs05:36
tomuchoanyone knows what is the login/pass for the latest kubuntu live cd please ?05:36
jpatrickno05:36
paguxno05:36
jpatricktomucho: there is none05:36
tomas_pagus: i dont know. i have installed j2re1.4 and mozilla-plugin05:36
tomuchojpatrick, It ask me to put a login and pass :(05:37
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tomas_pagux: and that works fine for me ;)05:37
irvkenJakubS, I've never managed to get them working first time with mepis05:37
paguxhave u tried "javaws" in console ?05:37
ryanakcajpatrick: what command? "firefox %s" "firefox" "firefox %u" "firefox %U" etc, etc05:37
irvkenI've never used kubuntu05:37
jpatricktomucho: try 'ubuntu' with no pass05:37
irvkenbut looks like I ight have to05:37
JakubSweird, i had them working immediately after installation05:37
tomas_pagux: works like a charm05:37
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tomuchojpatrick, it said login failed05:37
jpatrickryanakca: check the command for your kmenu05:38
irvkenhttp://www.mepis.org/node/909605:38
tomas_pagux: doesnt it work for you?05:38
paguxnot for me :-(05:38
tomas_pagux: but try to install j2re1.405:38
tomas_pagux: and the mozilla-plugin for it :)05:38
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ryanakcajpatrick: wouldnt that give me "firefox %whatever letter it is for my homepage"?05:38
tomas_pagux: that works for me anyway :)05:38
paguxJava Web Start splash screen process exiting .....05:39
paguxSplash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory05:39
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ryanakcahmmm05:39
djk_how do i change a pdf?05:39
jpatrickdjk_: impossible05:40
jpatrickafaik05:40
JakubSdjk_: import it in kword then edit05:40
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jpatrick^^05:40
tomas_pagux: have you tried google?05:40
tomas_pagux: this page could maybe help you: http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=38&threadID=19606605:41
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ryanakcahmmm... with "firefox %U" it opens two tabs of GMAIL when I left click the gmail notifier instead of one05:41
Danypeople who can speak russian :)05:41
tomas_pagux: they talk about a similiar problem anyway05:41
DevGet!de05:41
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de05:41
Danyhelp me05:41
DevGet!se05:41
ubotuDevGet: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:41
Danyplease05:41
tomas_what is it dany?05:41
DevGet!sv05:41
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DevGet05:41
tomas_Dany? Whats your problem?05:42
Dany<tomas_> i cann't install wifi adapter ^(05:42
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Danyon kubunyu05:42
tomas_Dany: i dont know anything about wifi but i can try to help you anyway :p05:42
tomas_Dany: what doesnt work exactly?05:42
Danyasus wl16105:43
Danyi download driver05:43
ryanakcaDany: you want russian?05:43
Danyyes05:43
ryanakca!ru05:43
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help05:43
jpatricktomas_: woah, xine is way better than gstreamer05:43
tomas_Dany: Have you tried KWifiManager?05:43
jpatrickKWifiManager sucks :P05:43
tomas_japtric: it seems that some program or something have stoolen my sound system or something :p05:43
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tomas_japtrick :/05:44
tomas_jpatrick05:44
tomas_stupid keyboard :p05:44
jpatrickjp + tab05:44
tomas_i wonder whats a japtrick is *-)05:44
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Dany<tomas_> drivers are not installed ^(05:45
tomas_Dany: isnt your wireless card detected ?05:45
jpatricktomas_: https://launchpad.net/people/jpatrick :P05:45
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tomas_oki?05:45
Danyhow i can se it &05:45
tomas_InformationCentral05:46
tomas_or something05:46
tomas_i ithink its called05:46
tomas_its in the system menu05:46
jpatrickKInfoCenter05:46
DanyKWifiManager cannt find wriles lan05:46
tomas_*-)05:47
Dany:(05:48
tomas_Sorry Dany maybe jpatrick knows better05:48
Dany:(  sorry for ma english ^(05:48
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jpatrickkwifimanager is meant for wireless connections05:48
chxis it possible to print a PDF magnified?05:49
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DevGetcan't xine play mp3's?05:50
jpatrick:?05:51
Danyno05:51
tomas_away?05:51
tomas_awayare you funny?05:51
tomas_awaydownload w32codecs and it will be fine05:51
jpatrickthere is no w32codecs05:52
tomas_away=?05:52
tomas_awaywhat do you mean by that?05:52
tomas_awayextra repository its called AFAIK05:52
DevGetthe homepages says that xine says it support mp305:52
tomuchoanyone knows what is the login/pass for the latest kubuntu live cd please ?05:53
DevGetbut I can't play mp3 in amarok05:53
jpatrickDevGet: what site?05:53
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DevGethttp://xinehq.de/index.php/features05:53
DevGetAhh, may I ned extracodecs05:54
tomas_awayi told you -)05:55
DevGetyes, thx :)05:55
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tomas_awayisnt it deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main05:56
tomas_awayim not totaly sure but i think that repository contains w32codecs05:56
jpatrickmarillat is not recommended05:56
tomas_awaywhy?05:56
tomas_awayi have heard from some that you can install w32codecs but you should deactivate marillat after05:56
jpatrickbreaks stuff05:56
DevGetistall libxine-extracodecs was enough05:56
tomas_awayi did anyway05:57
tomas_awayno05:57
tomas_awaynow its time for some card play05:57
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tomas_awaysee ya all05:57
tomas_awaybye05:57
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paguxhow much memory kubuntu needs to run respectfully ?06:02
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margouyab256 Mo I think06:03
margouyaband 512 Mo for better performance06:03
jpatrickyep ^^06:03
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kakeihi,does any body have make a podcast in audacity?06:07
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ryanakcahow do you figure out how many gigabytes you have left on your hd?06:10
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callieHi, i've got this old computer i found and im trying to get it going, I'm getting a CMOS checksum error and cant seem to get into the BIOS any ideas guys?06:10
spiritzryanakca:  df -h06:10
callieryanakca, df -h06:10
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callieyeah, what he said06:10
ryanakcaphew... still 18gb...06:11
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callieWhew!06:11
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callierobotgeek, you know anything about CMOS checksum errors?06:13
robotgeekcallie: nope, might be a battery issue or something06:13
callieyeah, already tried swapping it out, but no joy there either06:14
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robotgeekcallie: no clue, don't use PC's06:16
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tristanmikecallie: did you try pulling the jumpers?06:16
callieyou mean flashing the bios tristanmike ? yeah i did06:17
tristanmikecallie: without just pulling the cmos right?06:18
callietristanmike, i'm not sure what you mean? pulling?06:18
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tristanmikecallie: removing the cmos battery is one way, there is also a more "hardcoded" way to do it, and that's via the jumpers06:18
callieyeah, i thought i already said i did that06:19
tristanmikecallie: just making sure I didn't misunderstand you06:19
calliecool06:19
calliei had to flash the bios initialy becuase the bios had a p/w on it06:20
callienow i cant even get to the bios06:20
callieim assuming becuase of this error06:20
callieare there any floppy utils i could try?06:22
tristanmikecallie: did you backup the old bios?06:22
callienope06:23
tristanmikewha!?06:23
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tristanmikecallie: tisk, tisk06:23
callieit was password protected tristanmike06:23
tristanmikecallie: ok, did you get the same error on the old bios? the cmos checksum error?06:24
callieno i dont think so06:24
tristanmikecallie: I assumed you used you're board's manufactuer's tool's for flashing the bios? the file and the actual tool used?06:25
tristanmikewhat's the mobo?06:25
callietristanmike, a gigabyte something, hang on i'll check06:26
callietristanmike, Gigabyte GA-6WMMC706:29
paguxhow i remove something fociblly or reinstall ?06:29
paguxit seems achache it not working on kubuntu06:30
paguxi can remove via apt as dependency issues06:30
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penguinboyhey hey hey06:34
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_tristanmikecallie: sorry, I lost my internet06:34
callie_tristanmike, thats cool06:35
calliedid you get my answer tristanmike ?06:35
callie_tristanmike, Gigabyte GA-6WMMC706:35
_tristanmikecool06:35
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_tristanmikedid you use the manufacture's tool for upgrading as well as their bios file?06:36
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calliei dont know how to do that _tristanmike, and remember this a computer i found dumped06:36
_tristanmikehaha06:36
calliei just thought it might be fun to try and get it going, the power supply was knackered and i was hoping that was its only fault06:37
_tristanmikecallie: where are you? USA?06:38
callieUK06:39
calliewhy do you as tristanmike ?06:40
tristanmikejust so I get to the right Gigabyte homepage for the bios files etc.06:40
tristanmikeso I can stalk you....06:41
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callielol06:42
calliei've found some bios files already, i guess i just put them on a floppy and boot?06:43
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tristanmikecallie: you _must_ use the offical files and tool to do it, using anything else may result in errors06:43
tristanmikeand when I say "_must_" i _must_ really emphasise that06:44
calliethese are from gigabyte06:44
tristanmikecool06:44
tristanmikelemme see, are you from the usa?06:44
tristanmikeor NA for that matter06:44
callieUK06:44
tristanmikesee, things are different over there than here, I'm in Canada06:45
jpatrick< UK06:45
callie:D06:45
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calliei'll brb06:47
tristanmikecallie: you went here to get the files?  http://uk.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-6WMMC7.htm?06:47
paguxhow do i install autpackage ?06:48
paguxits not in any repo06:48
tristanmike!autopackage06:49
ubotuwell, autopackage is evil06:49
tristanmikegood ubotu06:49
tristanmike!botsnack06:49
ubotu:)06:49
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calliehey tristanmike sorry bout that06:51
tristanmikecallie: no probs at all :)06:51
tristanmikehttp://uk.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-6WMMC7.htm  ?06:51
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tristanmikecallie: did you go there to get the bios?06:51
callieyeah06:51
tristanmikecallie: and you used Qflash?06:52
calliei got the F8 bios06:52
callieqflash? explain06:52
calliesorry this is kinda new territory for me06:53
tristanmikeno need to be sorry my friend06:53
tristanmikehttp://uk.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Support/BIOS/HowToReflash/HowToReflash_1.htm06:53
tristanmikecallie: did you follow these instructions?06:54
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tristanmikeone sec06:55
calliei havent got that far all i've got is a file, and .exe and thats it06:56
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callies/and/an06:59
tristanmikecallie: can we step back for one sec, how did you flash the bios?07:02
callieusing the jumpers tristanmike07:02
kubby510lol NA07:03
kubby510sorry i was just scrolling up07:03
kubby510:p07:03
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kubby510im in the NA07:03
kubby510sorta07:03
kubby510i dont practice...07:04
kubby510:(07:04
tristanmikecallie: ahhh, I see07:04
tristanmikecallie: so you had a mobo with a password on the bios, had no "errors" or "problems" per se, so you used the jumpers to try and clear the bios and now you get a cmos checksum error? am i right?07:05
callieexactly tristanmike07:05
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tristanmikeahhh07:07
tristanmikewhat jumpers did you use? how did you go about it?07:07
callieFound the little table on the board which tells you the jumper setting and JP number, in this case 13, with the machine off i then moved the jumper over into the flash position, left it for 30 seconds and the replaced it to the original postion before powering back up07:09
callieDamn! my g/f is here, i shall have to continue this some other time07:10
calliethanks though tristanmike i'm sure i'll be back soon to pick your brains if thats ok?07:10
tristanmikeok, quick question07:10
callieyeah?07:10
tristanmikedid you use a brand new fresh battery when you swapped07:10
callieits not that new, but then not that old either07:11
callieless that a year old07:11
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tristanmikefollow these instructions http://uk.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Support/BIOS/HowToReflash/HowToReflash_1.htm  and do it from "dos" and you should be ok07:11
tristanmikewhen you did the jumpers, everything was unplugged and you held the power button for 10 sec's right?07:11
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calliethe power was still connected i think07:12
calliei thought it was supposed to be07:12
callieah07:12
calliedamn07:12
pollomax#kubuntu/es07:12
pollomaxjoin chanel kubuntu-es07:14
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jpatrickpollomax: /join #kubuntu-es07:15
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tristanmikecallie: NEVER play with jumpers with the power plugged in, and with out releasing the "flea power" by holding the pwr button for 10 sec after unplugging it07:15
tristanmikecallie: good luck07:16
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pollomaxhow download automatix07:17
tristanmike!automatix07:17
ubotuautomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.07:17
noteventime!easyubuntu07:19
ubotueasyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu07:19
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noteventimepollomax: Your better of with easyubuntu07:20
noteventimeEnnu mer svenskar? :)07:21
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noteventimeDoes someone know a good database manager that works with mysql07:23
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tanubisAnyone know how to get samba working properly?07:30
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johnntiradohello all07:37
noteventime'ello07:37
johnntiradoI have been trying to learn linux07:37
johnntiradoand one thing is confusing07:38
noteventimeok, thats god :)07:38
noteventimegood*07:38
noteventimeWhats confusing you?07:38
johnntiradohow do I intall software that I want to add like crossoffice07:38
johnntiradowell in windows you just click07:38
johnntiradoand the installer does it all07:38
noteventimeThats one of the hardest things for a linux beginner to learn.07:38
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johnntiradowell leave it to me to ask07:39
noteventimeThere are multiple ways07:39
johnntiradook07:39
_nanohi07:39
johnntiradoall the web sites don't really answer my question07:39
noteventimeone, the "standard" one in debian based distros is apt-get07:39
noteventimeYou probably know about that one07:39
johnntiradolol no07:39
johnntiradotoo green for that07:40
noteventimeYou have used adept?07:40
johnntiradonope07:40
johnntiradoheck Im just trying out this live kubuntu cd07:40
noteventimeHow have you installed things till now?07:40
noteventimeahhh... :) ok07:40
johnntiradowell in the live cd for kubuntu the cd installes it07:40
noteventimeok07:41
johnntiradobtw thanks for the time07:41
noteventimeWell, crossover office07:41
noteventimehas a install file just like in windows07:41
noteventimejust you need to start it from the command line07:41
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johnntiradoit has a file that ends in sh I think07:41
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noteventimeyes07:41
noteventimeits a script07:41
johnntiradooh ok07:41
johnntiradoso the command like is like dos07:42
noteventimeyes07:42
johnntiradois the command $ install-yadayada yad-sh07:42
noteventimebut you have to write ./ to mark that the file is in the current directory07:43
johnntiradohmmmm  ok07:43
noteventimeso open a console07:43
johnntiradogood start07:43
johnntiradohow do I do thaty07:43
noteventime:) i'll help you install it07:43
johnntiradowell not ready for that lol07:43
johnntiradojust getting ahead of myself07:44
noteventimeIn the kmenu->system->konsole07:44
noteventimeok07:44
johnntiradothanks for the start07:44
noteventime:)07:44
johnntiradonow kubuntu wont load in my litttle older computer07:44
noteventimeDo you know what root is?07:44
johnntiradoroot is like the head operator07:44
johnntiradoadmin07:45
noteventimeyes07:45
johnntiradoor c:\07:45
noteventimeboth :)07:45
johnntiradoyeppers07:45
noteventimeI'm reffering to the administrator07:45
johnntiradonow in kubuntu there is a run command thing07:45
noteventimeyes07:45
noteventimeBut its often better to use the console07:45
johnntiradoso I can type the install command there right07:45
johnntiradooh ok07:45
noteventimein the console you can see more output if there would be an error07:46
johnntiradoso how do I load the konsole again07:46
noteventimein the console you just have to run the sh file07:46
johnntiradook07:46
noteventimejust specify the path07:46
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noteventimelike /home/me/install-crossoveroffice.sh07:47
noteventimeDo you know what debian is?07:47
johnntiradook07:47
johnntiradono sorry I have heard of it07:47
johnntiradolol man I need to get a book huh07:47
noteventimeUbuntu is based in debian, its another linux ditro07:47
noteventimejhonntirado: not really, you learn if you use :)07:48
johnntiradolol well Im willing07:48
tristanmikejohnntirado: no book is needed, just time, just like windows when you first started07:48
johnntiradogotcha07:48
johnntiradoheck I remember spending nights with windows and dos07:49
noteventimehehe07:49
johnntiradomy first computer had a 20meg hd07:49
tristanmikethen you should slide in easily07:49
noteventimethe first thing you should learn is how to use apt-get and adept07:49
johnntiradook07:49
johnntiradowhere do I type that command07:49
noteventimeIts the package system used in debian based linux distros07:49
noteventimein the console07:50
johnntiradook lemme look around for console07:50
noteventimesure07:50
noteventimemost things are kinda like dos07:50
noteventimecd to change directory07:50
gleesondwhat is the best way to change my login screen theme?07:50
johnntiradook console is upp07:50
noteventimegleesond: KDM?07:50
noteventimegood, cd - change directory07:51
noteventimels (ell ess) list all files in the current directory (like dir in dos)07:51
gleesondI'm not sure, I installed ubuntu before I switched over to kubuntu so it might be GDM07:51
gleesondis there a way to find out07:51
tristanmikegleesond: what's the login you have now? Ubuntu or Kubuntu?07:52
noteventimetry to stop kdm and you will see07:52
gleesondkubuntu07:52
johnntiradohow do I list my directorys in konsole07:52
noteventimels07:52
johnntiradolike /dir07:52
johnntiradoin dos07:52
noteventimels (ell ess) list all files in the current directory (like dir in dos)07:52
tristanmikegleesond: meaning, when you log in, the logon screen says Kubuntu?07:52
gleesondyeah07:53
tristanmikegleesond: then you07:53
tristanmike*'re running kdm07:53
noteventimethen you need to install kdm theme manager07:53
gleesondok is there a pkg name07:53
johnntiradook07:53
gleesondor is it just kdm theme manager07:53
noteventimecp file dest - copies a file07:53
noteventimemv file dest - moves a file07:54
noteventimerm file - removes a file07:54
johnntiradogood lesson07:54
noteventime:)07:54
johnntiradolike unix commands07:54
tristanmikegleesond: I'm not sure07:54
gleesondok thannks07:54
noteventimejohnntirado: exavtly07:54
johnntiradonoteventime thanks for the lesson07:55
noteventimenp :)07:55
johnntiradoI will be back in a bit07:55
noteventimesure07:55
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blackflaghello all07:58
blackflagI want to fax with openoffice07:58
blackflagin the document are jpeg's07:59
blackflag when I try to save as txt then the jpegs are gone07:59
noteventimeDo faxes still exist :P07:59
blackflaghow can I fax such documents07:59
blackflagI have a lan with hylafax08:00
blackflag and when I try to sent with kdesendfax it cant send the odt file08:00
noteventimeMaybe convert the file?08:00
blackflagHow can I fax scanned documents?08:01
noteventimeUse ocr in kooka08:01
blackflagconvert? what for a format?08:01
noteventimeto convert the08:01
noteventimeimage to text08:01
noteventimeI dont know which formats ksendfax supports08:01
noteventimeok08:02
noteventimeksendfax only supports text files08:02
blackflagthen the best way is OCR ?08:02
noteventimeI would say so08:02
noteventimeDo you know hoe to use ocs in kooka?08:03
blackflagno, its the first time then to use OCR08:03
blackflagyou have some tips?08:03
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noteventimeAcyualy no, i've only used it once :)08:04
blackflagokay thanks for help I will try it!08:04
noteventime:) sorry for not being able to provide more comprahensive help08:05
noteventimecomprehensive*08:05
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noteventimehejsan08:07
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hibatsuhi08:23
hibatsucan anyone help me with dapper?08:24
jpatrickmaybe08:24
hibatsuI don't have any sound in amarok when trying to play an mp308:25
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hibatsuneither with xine nor the arts plugin08:25
hibatsuand I installed the w32codecs08:25
mluser-homeHello.. where can I get information on the format for the /etc/network/interfaces file?08:25
jpatrickmluser-home: man:/interfaces08:26
mluser-homejpatrick: thanks :)08:26
tristanmikehibatsu: you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad to enable mp3 playback08:26
tristanmike!mp308:26
Glin|JolWinamp  5.13 Stopped08:26
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:26
noteventimeyou need gstreamer-mad08:27
noteventimeOps, tristanmike is right gstreamer0.8-mad08:27
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hibatsuok, thanks08:28
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honestyCan someone give me the dapper testing channel because I am having problems installing it - something like ALERT! /dev/ram does not exist08:29
noteventimethere is a dapper testing channel?08:32
Tm_T#ubuntu-dapper maybe?08:32
Tm_T!dapper08:32
noteventimeI'm trying a few comoinations08:33
Tm_T#ubuntu+108:33
noteventime#ubuntu+108:33
Tm_Tw08:33
noteventimeahh08:33
honestythx08:35
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Tm_Teverything is been fine here?08:37
tomas_hi everyone08:37
noteventime'ello08:37
Tm_Tmoin08:37
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noteventimehejsan igen :D08:37
tomas_hehe :P08:37
tomas_innan jag borjar tigga hjalp :P08:38
tomas_so ska jag stalla en annan typ av fraga :P08:38
tomas_var i sverige finns du noteventime :)?08:38
hibatsuI've already installed gstramer0.8-mad but I can't select it in the engines in amarok08:38
tomas_saj inte stockholm bara :p08:39
noteventimeNre rebro08:39
tomas_jaja :p08:39
tomas_det ar val okej da ;)08:39
Tm_Thibatsu: also install amarok-gstreamer08:39
tomas_sjalv so bor man nere i halland :)08:39
tomas_langt ifran stockholm :D08:39
noteventimeNra rebro, I en liten smstad :P08:39
hibatsuthere is no such package08:39
hibatsuin dapper08:39
Tm_Ttomas_: stop, use english tack, jag tycker inte om sverige hr08:40
tomas_noteventime: kanner du till nagon bugg som gor att det inte hjalper att stalla in svenskt tangenbord? jag har fortfarande inga svenska tecken :/08:40
noteventimeKr du XGL?08:40
noteventimeSorry08:40
noteventimeYou'r not using XGL are you?08:40
Tm_Tthat sounds much better ;)08:40
noteventime!se08:41
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime08:41
tomas_so, liebst to die deutsche sprache TM_T :p ?08:41
tomas_du08:41
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tomas_just kidding :p08:41
noteventimeHaha, kans du auch deutch?08:41
hibatsusicher08:41
tomas_nur wenig deutsch :p08:41
tomas_thats my favourite line :p08:41
noteventimehaha08:41
noteventime!de08:41
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de08:41
tomas_du bisst ein elch ist auch gut08:41
tomas_yeahyeah :p08:41
tomas_i guess english will have to do :)08:42
hibatsusure08:42
tomas_anyway08:42
tomas_a WE-HATE-SWEDISH-KEYBOARD-BUG08:42
tomas_do you know anything about that?08:42
noteventimeWieso ist da en Deutcher kanal und kein shwedisher?08:42
Tm_Ttomas_: ...08:42
tomas_es ist diskrimerung or something :p08:42
noteventimeHmmm nice work of spelling that was :P08:42
tomas_i know :p08:43
tomas_but08:43
Tm_Tguys, please ;(08:43
tomas_to my real questions08:43
tomas_are all windows controlled by x?08:43
Tm_Ttomas_: what you mean by that?08:43
noteventimeBy kwin if your using kde08:43
_bwhat bug ? 08:43
tomas_i would like to have a command that closes an active windows08:43
Tm_T08:43
noteventime08:43
tomas_so i can use it in perlbox voice :P08:43
tomas_like COMPUTER: Close window :P08:43
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Tm_Ttomas_: hmm, maybe kwin have dcop call08:44
Tm_Ttomas_: if you use KDE08:44
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noteventimekwin has a dcop im pretty sure08:44
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tomas_Tm_T: i dont think that I found such08:44
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tomas_but hasnt X control over all windows?08:45
tomas_like some window buffer or something :p08:45
noteventimeShould have anyway08:45
tomas_have anyone of you tried perlbox voice?08:45
Tm_Tnoteventime: yup, but looks like dcop of kwin is very limited08:47
noteventimeNope08:47
noteventimeOk08:47
tomas_its so nice :p08:47
noteventimeWhat is it?08:47
tomas_http://perlbox.org/pbtk/08:47
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tomas_its a speech recognition think08:47
noteventimehehe08:47
tomas_you can program words08:47
noteventimesounds cool08:48
tomas_like Shutdown  :p08:48
tomas_or Give me da music :P08:48
_bvoice is usless imo08:48
tomas_voice is funny :p08:48
tomas_and its healthy :P08:48
tomas_for your arms :p08:48
_byour throut gets sore long before fingers ! :P08:48
tomas_no :p08:48
tomas_im talking so much anyway ;)08:48
noteventimeYou have that kind of functionality in opera08:48
noteventimeX) Dont you hate it when you get segmention faults08:49
noteventimetomas_: Have you tried xgl?08:50
tomas_noteventime: no, what is it really? something about opengl?08:50
noteventimeOpenGl accelerated X08:50
tomas_benefits?08:51
tomas_faster X?08:51
tomas_hotter GPU :p ?08:51
tomas_less  for gaming?08:51
noteventimefaster X less CPU used08:51
tomas_:p08:51
tomas_:p08:51
noteventimeand COOOOOL effects :D08:51
tomas_how :p08:51
tomas_tell me :p08:51
tomas_how :p08:51
tomas_:p08:51
noteventimetake a look at the video08:51
noteventimehttp://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi08:52
tomas_:p08:52
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noteventimeWhat GPU are you using?08:52
hibatsuxgl is only gtk, isn't it?08:52
tomas_NVIDIA 5900 XT08:52
noteventimeno08:52
noteventimeYes!08:52
noteventimetomas_: Nice for you08:52
tomas_CANT WATCH IT :08:52
tomas_:"08:52
tomas_i gonna do a reboot08:52
tomas_see ya08:52
tomas_shortly08:52
noteventime:08:53
noteventime)08:53
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noteventimehibatsu: xgl is simply xserver using the GPU08:53
jpatrickre apokryphos08:53
noteventimeOr not simple but basicly08:53
apokryphosjpatrick: hey, how's it going? :)08:55
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jpatrickno good - ran out of hdd space08:55
tomas_:08:55
tomas_WHERE IS MY SWEDISH KEYBOARD!!!08:55
noteventimeHave you taken a look in the xorg.conf?08:56
tomas_me?08:56
noteventimeyes :)08:56
tomas_and can you give me the link again please08:56
noteventimehttp://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi08:56
Tm_Ttomas_: dont yell here08:56
tomas_sorry08:56
tomas_i just get so mad when the system tell me its working but its not08:57
noteventime!pastebin08:57
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)08:57
tomas_i know about pastebin08:57
tomas_havent so much to paste yet08:57
tomas_expect some furniture soon :Xp:08:58
noteventime?08:58
noteventimeI needed the link :)08:58
noteventimetomas_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/931108:58
tomas_=?08:58
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tomas_aha08:58
tomas_you mean that i should post my config?08:58
noteventimeno08:58
noteventimei posted mine08:58
tomas_aha08:59
noteventimejust the keyboard part :)08:59
tomas_moki08:59
tomas_i will compare it08:59
lampshadeIs there a way to set what key combo (default is ctrl+tab) makes me switch desktops?  The ctrl+tab default is messing me up when I use programs like gaim and firefox where I want to ctrl+tab through my tabbed windows08:59
noteventimeTakea look08:59
noteventimelampshade: khotkey?08:59
noteventimekhotkeys08:59
tomas_noteventime: its identical08:59
lampshadekhotkey?  I didn't see anything like that.  Perhaps I don't have it installed.08:59
Tm_Tlampshade: systemsettings has keyboard section08:59
noteventimetomas_: hmmm09:00
lampshadeok, this is stupid, but how do I get to system settings09:00
lampshadeI am lost on KDE09:00
noteventimemain menu :)09:00
Tm_Tlampshade: you do find Kmenu?09:00
seaLneK menu -> system settings09:00
Tm_T:p09:00
tomas_noteventime: Now I even can't play a shitty movie09:00
lampshadeI click the Kmen -->  and then I have  settings or system not a system settings, though?09:01
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tomas_noteventime: mpeg works :/09:01
lampshadeperhaps I'm missing an app09:01
lampshadeor several09:01
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tomas_i'll try mplayer09:01
noteventimetomas_: Its xvid09:02
tomas_noteventime: i know, and it doesnt works in kaffeine, i'll try mplayer09:02
noteventimetomas_: Do you have xvid installed?09:03
tomas_isnt it a part of w32codecs?09:03
lampshadeoh I didn't have systemsettings installed09:03
lampshadeI thinks that's whys09:03
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noteventimetomas_: There is a gstreamer one09:04
tomas_I'LL REMOVE W32codecs09:04
tomas_oki09:04
tomas_great09:04
tomas_first im going to remove this crap09:04
tomas_gstreamer for amarok was removed right?09:04
kylevadept-update has become worthless to me :(09:04
kylevI installed the pile of updates for 5.10, rebooted09:05
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kylevand now starting adept-update tells me "You need to run this application as root to make make any use of it."09:05
kylev(doubled="make" not a typo)09:05
tomas_do you get a sudoers error?09:05
tomas_that you are not in the sudoers file or something?09:05
kylevnah, I can fire up a shell and try running adept-updater from sudo directly09:06
tomas_oki09:06
tomas_then i dont know :/09:06
kylevor "sudo su"09:06
kylevor "sudo bash"09:06
noteventime:/ im having the same problem with adept, I can't run it through kdesu09:06
tomas_i have no problems with it09:07
tomas_i may have done some insecure thing09:07
kylevare there any non-graphical updaters that I can check for updates?09:07
lampshadedoes your system settings have an entry on the keyboard for switching desktops?  There is no entry on mine to change?  I'm just curious.09:07
tomas_i added myself to the sudoers file09:07
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tomas_but i guess that was another error09:07
kylevwell, my user is in the admin group, which is in /etc/sudoers09:07
kylevsudo is running fine09:08
kylevbut something is dropping privs, or adept is mi-detecting uid09:08
tomas_noteventime: help me :'(09:08
noteventimetomas_: ok09:08
kylevor maybe some file perm is borked, and adept thinks that failing to opena  file means it isn't root...09:08
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noteventimetomas_: I missed your problem though09:09
tomas_noteventime: i cant get anything to play09:09
tomas_noteventime: i installed a package for xvid09:09
noteventimetolled?mas_: have you got gstreamer insta09:09
tomas_-but it doesnt work09:09
noteventimeok09:09
tomas_YES09:09
noteventimeI'll try it out myself09:09
tomas_doso09:09
tomas_btw09:09
noteventime?09:09
tomas_i can only select one engine in kaffeine :/09:09
noteventimeMe too09:10
noteventimeBut i think there is a xine plugin09:10
tomas_i have that :/09:10
noteventime:( OMG 30mb/s09:11
noteventimekb09:11
noteventime:P09:11
tomas_i know09:11
tomas_its VERY SLOW09:11
tomas_streaming is easier09:11
tomas_noteventime: can you play most videos?09:11
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noteventimeI havn't played that many to be honest09:12
tomas_noteventime: i mean, do you have w32codecs?09:12
tomas_oh09:12
tomas_oki09:12
noteventimeYes i have w32codecs09:12
tomas_from where did you get it?09:12
noteventimePLF09:12
tomas_PLF?09:12
tomas_penguin liberation front :p ?09:12
noteventimeyes09:13
tomas_:xp:09:13
tomas_oki09:13
noteventimehehe09:13
noteventimeim trying the video now09:13
noteventimehmmm....09:13
noteventimeI'm not getting any image :)09:13
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kylevfucking lame09:14
tomas_ah09:14
tomas_noteventime: thank you :)09:14
tomas_anyway :p09:14
noteventimeYep?09:14
tomas_can you try to figure out why my keyboard doesnt work :p09:14
noteventimeI'm trying ;)09:14
kylevthis never happens in Fedora09:14
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_hupp3lWTF is xlib6g?09:15
tomas_no but fedora sucks :p09:15
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tomas_:p09:15
_hupp3lim having alot of dependecy problems :(09:15
_hupp3lcan someone please help me09:15
noteventimesure09:15
tomas_fedora is just a thing red hat throwed away *-)09:15
kylevthe inability to install updates kind of puts a damper on my "kubuntu experience"09:15
kylev :-P09:15
noteventime_hupp3l: Are you running dapper?09:15
tomas_anyone going to buy ps3?09:16
_hupp3lyes09:16
_hupp3land yes09:16
tomas_:p09:16
tomas_great hupp3l :D09:16
noteventimeI'm not09:16
tomas_why :p09:16
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_hupp3lah boo09:17
tomas_dont tell me that you have bought crappy36009:17
noteventime_hupp3l: Are you running dapper09:17
noteventimeNope09:17
_hupp3lyes I am noteventime09:17
noteventimeI've bought none09:17
_hupp3ldapper 309:17
_hupp3lflight 309:17
xChompwhat security measures would you prefer after a kubuntu linux installation? i have a fresh installed kubuntu linux installation here on my machine09:17
tomas_its okay noteventime :p. as long as you dont support msoft ;)09:17
noteventime_hupp3l: i'll send you my sources.list09:17
noteventimeand you can see if you miss one of the repos09:17
noteventimeI barely play games so it's not worth the money09:18
_hupp3lhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/931209:18
seaLnexChomp: a default install won't have any remotely connectable services so should be fine09:18
_bexpensive titles09:18
noteventimeps3 will be 600$ :D09:18
_hupp3lbut I uncommented the main dapper reposes in the meanwhile and I commented out the vlc ones09:18
_baaah09:18
xChompseaLne: ok, thanks for the info :)09:18
Tm_Tkylev: any problems?09:19
tomas_noteventime: my ass, its speculation. it may be but none knows yet09:19
kylevTm_T: I'm re-doing the install09:19
noteventimetomas_: :D09:19
kylevTm_T: maybe it'll not suck this time09:19
Tm_Tkylev: ok, just try to keep your language clean ;)09:20
tomas_haha :p09:20
noteventime_hupp3l: Doesn't look bad :/09:20
tomas_COMPUTER: terminal :P09:20
tomas_this is fun :p09:20
_bin the console world its allways rumors etc !09:20
_hupp3lyeah I dont understand why im having these dependency problems09:20
noteventimeI don't even play computer games anymore09:20
_hupp3lwould you like to see the pastebin of the error?09:20
tomas_noteventime: :/09:20
kylevTm_T: no promises, but I won't curse unreasonably :-)09:20
_hupp3lhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/931209:20
Tm_Tkylev: and I won't kick unreasonably09:20
Tm_T;)09:21
noteventime_hupp3l: Looks good :/09:21
kylevexcellent09:21
robotgeekheh Tm_T :)09:21
noteventime_hupp3l: i'll paste mine09:21
_hupp3lok thanx09:21
brodelhow can I make the links open with firefox instead of konqueror?09:21
Tm_Trobotgeek: yuh, bad day here ;(09:21
tomas_KControl09:21
Tm_Trobotgeek: and hi to you too =)09:21
robotgeekTm_T: why so?09:21
tomas_brodel: KControl09:21
Tm_Trobotgeek: women...09:22
Tm_Trobotgeek: actually just one ;)09:22
robotgeekTm_T: hah, this is a linux only support channel :)09:22
kylevTm_T: that means you're 1 woman up on most of the poeple here09:22
tomas_brodel: KControl > KDE-Components ( i guess) - Components09:22
tomas_oh :p09:23
kylev(myself included)09:23
robotgeekkylev: ssssh, don't depress me mate09:23
tomas_do we have a woman here?09:23
noteventime_hupp3l: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/931409:23
_hupp3lcan I just copy yours over mine?09:23
Tm_Tkylev: bad assuming ;)09:23
noteventimeThe last time i played a computer  game was 1 week ago and that was the beta off DDO09:23
Tm_Trobotgeek: indeed09:23
tomas_btw :p09:24
tomas_do not forget to download dosbox :p09:24
tomas_and winter :p09:24
tomas_and lotus :p09:24
noteventimeahh, thanks09:24
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tomas_and all those nice games :p09:24
tomas_dont forget lemmings :p09:24
tomas_and lost vikings :p09:24
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tomas_and jones in the fast lane :D09:24
brodeltomas_: ahh.. that did it. Thanks.09:24
noteventimeThe only thing you need for hardcore gaming is scummvm :D09:24
tomas_:)09:24
_hupp3lnoteventime: can I just copy your repos over mine?09:24
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tomas_scummvm :p09:25
noteventime_hupp3l: how do you mean?09:25
tomas_CP SOURCES.LIST :o09:25
DocTomoemy sound just ceased to work under dapper - without updating anything. any ideas what to do?09:25
tomas_sorry guys :xp:09:25
_hupp3llike delete my repos in my sources.list file and copy in yours?09:25
tomas_im a little high tonight :p09:25
noteventimeYou should be able to, but you would get the swedish mirrors09:25
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noteventimetomas_: dont tell me you havn't played monkey island?09:26
tomas_just change se to your countries prefix09:26
_hupp3lhmm I dont think that would matter too much09:26
tomas_noteventime: i have :p09:26
tomas_noteventime: 1-309:26
tomas_and the 3d one too09:26
comptoyouhow do I install crossover in ubuntu ?09:26
tomas_i like 3 the most :p09:26
noteventimenice09:26
tomas_doesnt crossover cost?09:26
noteventimesame here09:26
comptoyouyup09:26
noteventimehehe09:27
tomas_noteventime: a pirate i was meant to be. trim the sails and roam the sea :p09:27
noteventimedepends :D09:27
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noteventimetomas_: This is just ridiculus09:27
tomas_noteventime :p09:27
tomas_i have the song somewhere :p09:27
noteventimetomas_: I have that one09:27
tomas_:p09:27
noteventimetomas_: I have 7:45 minutes of monkey island music XD09:27
noteventime7h 45 min09:28
tomas_noteventime: noooooooooooo :gonk: lycko dig :p09:28
hibatsuHow can I get gstreamer to work in amarok in dapper?09:28
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noteventimewww.scummbar.com09:28
tid-waveactivate universe09:28
tid-waveand then install gstreamer-mad09:28
hibatsualready happened09:28
hibatsuand w32codecs09:28
hibatsuand ffmpeg installed09:29
noteventimetomas_: 295 lster, kan laddas ner frn www.scummbar.com09:29
noteventimeltar*09:29
hibatsubut I can't select the gstreamer-engine09:29
tomas_noteventime: :D09:29
hibatsuin the amarok menu09:29
noteventimetomas_: The problem is you have to download them one by one XD09:29
tomas_hey!09:29
tomas_noteventime: i can play mp3s in mplayer :p09:29
noteventimenice09:29
noteventimenot in amaroK?09:30
tomas_noteventime: but not in amarok or kaffeine :p09:30
noteventimeyou have gstreamer-mad09:30
apokryphostomas_: install amarok-xine09:30
apokryphosgstreamer0.8-mad to use the gstreamer engine09:30
tomas_mm09:30
tomas_i better remove it?09:30
noteventimeIt works for me :)09:30
apokryphoshuh?09:30
tomas_oki09:30
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noteventimeLets see how big they are gzipped09:32
louis_Hello09:32
louis_I have this:http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3078009:32
louis_and i want to install it09:32
tomas_still it doesnt work :/09:32
tomas_just in mplayer :/09:32
louis_but in the KDM, when i browse to add a theme, it doesn't want to install09:32
tomas_noteventime: have you hear Puff The Magic Dragon :p ?09:32
noteventimeYou are not supposed to extract the files louis_09:33
louis_oh09:33
noteventimetomas_: MI song?09:33
jpatricklouis_: edit your /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc09:33
pulverhey! did a kubuntu server install to get encrypted ROOT.. it works in breezy but after upgrade to dapper i get devfs errors at boot. suspect the line '#kopt=root=/dev/mapper/root devfs=mount ro' in /boot/grub/menu.lst. any ideas how to make it right? im no guru...09:33
tomas_noteventime: MI?09:33
noteventimemonkey island09:33
louis_pulver, then use ubuntu!09:33
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louis_for a server install, that's the same thing09:33
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tomas_noteventime: no :p09:34
tomas_noteventime: puff the magic dragon lived by the sea :p09:34
noteventimeno :D09:34
tomas_noteventime: awesome song :p09:34
pulverlouis_: the encryption problem is not ubuntu specific, so whats your point09:34
louis_noteventime: herm. :/ it doesn't find the configuration file09:34
tomas_noteventime: oh puff the magic dragon :p09:34
louis_pulver: my point is: why using Kubuntu, with a bit less support then Ubuntu, if you run only console mode09:35
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robotgeeklouis_: cause kde > gnome :)09:35
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louis_robotgeek , i know09:35
louis_but in console only (server), what's the difference?09:36
pulverlouis_: well was just asking if someone had experienced the same thing and had any ideas. never mind i'll figure it out..eventually09:36
robotgeeklouis_: yeah, no difference09:36
noteventimetomas_: Accept the transfer :)09:36
louis_heh :)09:36
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louis_noteventime , it says that it don't find the config file :/09:36
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tomplast_mekaraha you can send files :p09:37
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tomplast_mekarslow speed :p09:37
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tomas_do you have msn noteventime?09:38
noteventimeYes09:38
tomas_can i have yours?09:38
noteventimenoteventime@gmail.com09:38
tomas_:)09:38
noteventimeWel try there instead XD09:39
noteventimeWas way to slow09:39
noteventimespaceprogrammer?09:40
tomas_^^09:40
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jpatrickit is not wise to surf as root09:41
pulver:)09:41
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seg-faultI know I'm currently in Single user mode... Having issues with my Dlink wireless and Dapper09:42
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louis_does anyone have/know a pack to transform my Kubuntu into MacOsX look?09:43
seg-faultInteresting issue. Kernel picks up wlan0 card ..but the link light only lights up during initialization.09:43
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noteventimelouis_ use baghira09:44
louis_what is this?09:44
noteventimeA theme09:45
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noteventimeOr rather a pack of themes09:45
louis_oh09:45
noteventimeDo you know how o change themes?09:45
louis_yeah :)09:46
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louis_i just had trouble with kdm ;/09:46
louis_and still09:46
noteventimeDo you habe theme KDM manager installed09:47
noteventimeThe channel is a bit more calm now09:47
louis_yeah09:48
louis_oh09:48
louis_is it installed in kubuntu?09:48
louis_by default09:48
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louis_hum09:50
louis_noteventime, will baghira replace kde?09:50
kylev... and I crashed adept09:51
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noteventimelous_: sorry im back now, no09:53
louis_;p09:53
noteventimelous_: Its only a KDM theme09:53
louis_k09:53
noteventimesearch baghira in adept09:53
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NRG88when i try to play a dvd, it appears on only half a screen, even in fullscreen mode in mplayer09:55
NRG88why? :(09:55
noteventimeNRG88: What player?09:57
NRG88mplayer09:57
hugelmopfNRG88: choose another video outpu09:57
hugelmopft09:58
louis_noteventime , thanks09:58
louis_and other thing09:58
hugelmopfNRG88: xv09:58
noteventimesure09:58
louis_wait*09:58
noteventimeI vill :)09:58
louis_:P okay ;)09:58
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hugelmopfNRG88: does it work?10:01
tomplastnah, now its enough of this for today. bye everyone. goodnight in some hours10:01
NRG881 min10:02
noteventimebye10:02
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NRG88strange, the dvd doesn't mount10:03
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dirk_hey10:03
noteventime'ello10:03
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dirk_i need some help10:04
noteventimeJust ask :D10:04
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louis_noteventime , do you read french?10:05
dirk_one harddisk(my data harddisk to switch files with windows) doesnt work10:05
noteventimelouis_: Just very very very very little :P10:05
louis_ok10:05
louis_i'll make a screenshot for you of the problem with my kdm10:05
NRG88dirk_, more details?10:05
noteventimedirk_: you can get the files directly from the windows disk10:05
kubby510can someone help me get hotplug working?10:05
noteventimelouis_: sure10:06
dirk_and it says Mount:can't find /dev/hdc6 in ect/fstab or ect/mtab10:06
noteventimeThen you have to add it :)10:06
tigerkubcan someone tell me what files arr important for hotplug?10:06
sylhi10:07
dirk_wit what parameters?10:07
syli have kubuntu 5.10 and hibernate dont work10:07
sylit say in log10:08
sylhibernate: [10]  Executing EnsureSwsusp2Capable ...10:08
sylYour kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in.10:08
dirk_(im using dapper drake flight 4)10:08
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cigahi10:08
louis_:)10:09
dirk_what parameters do i have to ad?10:09
NRG88hugelmopf,10:09
NRG88thanks, it works10:09
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cigaI try to compile amarok from trunk on breezy with kde 3.5.1. It fails with an errors: threadweaver.h:101: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of QMutex with no type10:10
cigaanyone can help me with this?10:10
dirk_some one please help!10:11
louis_noteventime , notice me your e-mail please10:11
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_bis there a way to list a unknow drive partions like xp diskmanager ?10:11
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Metalface?10:12
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dirk_some one please help?10:13
louis_noteventime :)10:13
noteventimeback10:13
noteventimesorrt10:13
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louis_:)10:15
louis_notice me your e-mail please10:15
louis_i'll send ya the screenshot10:15
noteventime!pastebin10:15
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)10:15
noteventimeyou use that -^10:15
louis_well!10:16
louis_nice10:16
noteventime:))10:16
_hupp3lnoteventime: I still cant get vlc to install10:16
noteventimehmmm10:17
louis_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i931910:17
louis_traduction: "Impossible to load theme's configuration file."10:18
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noteventimehmmm, i actualy could read that :D10:19
louis_;)10:19
noteventimehmm...10:20
noteventimeI'll take a look at the theme10:20
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louis_k10:20
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noteventimeIt works for me10:21
louis_huh o_O10:21
noteventimejust enter http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=30780&id=1&PHPSESSID=f67edaeb58f934613736d43df09cd74e in the location10:21
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noteventimeIt will download and install automaticly10:21
louis_oh10:21
louis_ok :L)10:21
louis_-L10:21
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noteventimeWorks better now?10:22
louis_i'll try10:22
louis_it's laggy because i'm installing limewire10:23
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noteventimewhy not frostwire10:23
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louis_same error, n10:25
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noteventime:~( hmmm10:25
louis_;/10:25
noteventimeThats strange10:25
louis_yay10:25
noteventime+10:25
noteventime?10:25
louis_?10:25
noteventimeyay?10:26
noteventimeWas it just ment as yes?10:26
noteventimeor was it yay! as in yes it worked?10:26
louis_it was in yes, to agree that it's strange10:26
louis_omg10:27
louis_and limewire doesn't want to start ;/10:27
noteventimetry frostwire10:27
louis_i installed limewire with alien10:27
louis_how i uninstall it?10:28
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noteventimei have no idea dpkg --purge limewire?10:29
louis_i'll try10:29
louis_just apt-get remove limewire-free worked ;)10:29
noteventimenice10:30
louis_and where i find this "frostwire?"10:31
noteventimegoogle ;)10:31
dirk_www.frostwire.com10:31
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Mronowhere be brenden10:37
__mikemis it posible to use screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 in kde10:38
Mronoyep10:38
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Mronoi'm running at 1440x90010:38
__mikemI tried running kubuntu under vmware, and for the life of me couldn't get it to go higher than 1024x76810:38
Mrononeed help setting it higher10:38
Mronogotta configure the xorg10:39
__mikemI did that10:39
Mronoand.10:39
__mikemnothing happened10:39
Mronodid you restart X10:39
__mikemyes10:39
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__mikemdoes it matter that it was running under vmware10:40
Mronoto be honest I don't even know what vmware is10:40
__mikemwww.vmware.com10:40
Mronoso it's like virtual machine10:41
louis_me, i have an ati radeon 7000 with dual screen output, and i don't know how to activate the 2nd screen10:41
louis_Mrono it's10:41
__mikemthats exactly what it is10:41
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cigalouis_: I think you should use fglrx10:41
MronoI have an ati radon 9000 and I can't get the opengl or 3d acceleartion to work10:41
ciga__mikem: what driver do you use for xorg?10:41
__mikemthe funny thing is I also have ubuntu (gnome based) running on another virtual machine and I can but that at what ever res I want10:41
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Mronoubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing10:42
Mronojust different window managers10:42
louis_;) ok10:42
seg-faultI think mvware mught not allow access to the frame buffer10:42
dragonkhhi10:42
MronoKDM and GDM10:42
__mikemMrono I know thats what befuddles me10:42
Mrononot sure10:42
ciga__mikem: prolly cos you are running ubuntu without vmware, right?10:42
louis_ciga: , it's installing!10:42
louis_thanks10:42
Mronohobbsee10:42
dragonkhhow do I remove the first entry in an array?10:42
Mronoyou here10:42
__mikemI have both running under vmware10:42
dragonkhpop ?10:42
cigadragonkh: pop is the last, does not it?10:43
dragonkhshift10:43
dragonkhI think works10:43
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__mikem???????????10:44
ciga__mikem: maybe you need to copy the good xorg.conf to the one that is in vmware10:44
kylevadept seems to crash on the unzip update...10:44
_b!ntfs10:44
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:44
ciga__mikem: of course the one that was worked right inside vmware.10:44
__mikemProblem is I am not sure how to do that, don't worry about it for now, Ill live with it10:44
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__mikem!wine10:46
louis_ciga10:46
louis_i have 1 tv output and 2 screen outputs.10:46
Mronois there any way to mount an ntfs filesytstem as write10:48
Mronohey mike10:48
louis_yeh10:48
louis_google it, i found something yesterday10:48
MronoI have a working wine repository10:48
Mronoif ya want it10:48
Mronodeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/10:49
__mikemI already have wine, I have been trying to get rhapsody jukebox to run under it10:49
Mronoah10:49
MronoI got UT to run under it10:50
Mronoi'm happy10:50
Mronolol10:50
louis_is it possible to convert Kubuntu into Ubuntu easy?10:50
Mronoyep10:50
__mikemI got Bejeweled 2 to run under it10:50
Mronoinstall the GDM and remove the KDE10:50
MronoKDM10:50
__mikemYOu don't need to remove kde10:50
Mronotrue10:50
__mikemyou can have both on the same box10:50
__mikemlike me10:50
koshyeah you can be crazy just like __mikem ;)10:51
koshjust teasing10:51
Mronois it possible to chage the size of the linux partition easy?10:51
__mikemlol10:51
louis_but Mrono, is it gonna be easy?10:51
__mikemYup10:51
Mronolol10:52
louis_and does all the kde shits will stay there?10:52
louis_configs?10:52
MronoI have a duek biit10:52
louis_and shares? icons?10:52
Mronoduel boot winxp10:52
__mikemIts as easy as opening your faorite package manager, and finding the right package10:52
Mronoso I want to make a fat32 partition to be read by both10:52
__mikem*faVorite10:53
Mronobrb10:53
Mronoeat10:53
__mikemhb10:53
_hupp3lwhat program can I use to show my stats and like batterylife on my desktop?10:53
_hupp3lsomething like konfabulator or samurize?10:53
noteventimesuper karamba10:53
__mikemAtleast on my laptop, ubuntu already does that10:53
kylev... and there goes adept again10:53
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_hupp3lsuper karamba?10:54
_hupp3lwill it come with dapper?10:54
noteventimeI dont think so10:54
noteventimeThere will be an equvivalent thing in KDE4 though10:55
__mikemI wonder what KDE4 will be like10:55
noteventimesuper cool X)10:55
__mikemno doubt10:55
jpatrick_hupp3l: it is in Dapper10:55
__mikem!kde10:55
ubotuit has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/10:55
_hupp3lwhereunder?10:56
__mikem!kde410:56
ubotuit has been said that kde4 is http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html10:56
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_banyone using a old 2,5 drive in usb chase here ?10:58
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rocafellaHow do I change my default display manager in kubunu? I want it to start xdm on boot instead of KDM11:09
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__mikemdpkg-reconfigure xdm11:10
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__mikemsomething like that11:10
rocafellathanks, mikem11:11
flixoris there a special dapper channel11:11
arrinmurrwell, there's #ubuntu+111:13
flixoroke anybody overhere installed dapper11:13
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rocafellahow do I disable the tap to click function on my laptop? it is getting pretty annoying11:16
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cadfael'lo all, anyone around to give a noob some help?11:18
__mikemonly another noob11:18
Mronohi11:18
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Mronoditto11:18
cadfaelOi.11:18
cadfaelWell.  I am have two problems.11:19
cadfaelFirst, Kubuntu seems unable to reboot the box.  It just goes to sleep or something.  This happened during the initial install and every time after.11:19
cadfaelSecond, even tho I have all the repos enabled in Adept, I know I am not seeing the correct number of packages.11:20
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cadfaelSee http://pastebin.com/572403 ,,, that's my sources list11:20
__mikemI am considering just installing vmware on this laptop and using reactos or something11:21
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spiritzI'm struggling to make my fglrx driver 8.22.5 to work on dapper. I get stuck because of a weird message "did you mean tab instead of 8 spaces" when doing module-assistant. Has anyone expercienced this?11:23
cadfaelcan anyone open up adept and see how many packages you have available?  I show 16886, my other kubuntu box shows ~17k11:23
cadfaelspiritz: no, sorry11:23
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spiritzthanks anyway :)11:26
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robotgeekspiritz: in a make file, you have to have tabs instead of spaces somewhere11:28
spiritzok11:29
spiritzI'll have a look11:29
spiritzhow can ATI provide drivers with such a mistake?:o11:29
Biff`It's ATI.11:29
spiritz;)11:30
spiritzactually I have no idea what the module-assistant is triggering11:30
hDp`ET merc dispo11:31
cadfaelI know nothing about graphics cards, but someone just clued me in that the Radeon that comes with this box (OEM) somehow "shares" ram with the comp11:32
cadfaelinstead of having its own onboard memory, apparently, it sucks down like 128m of system ram11:32
spiritzmaybe but not mine11:32
spiritzthis is shared memory, low cost video card have such "feature"... but most of ati cards are not low cost ones11:33
brodela lot of cards do that now.11:33
MronoI hate shared memory11:33
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Mronoit decreises the gfx performence11:33
Mronoanf unfortunately I have one11:33
spiritzwhich one do u have? the intel something?11:34
Mronoati11:35
Mronoati radon 900011:35
spiritzok it's a old one11:35
Mronowhich is stupid11:35
Mronocuz this computer is brand new11:35
Mronowell11:35
spiritzI m not even sure ati is providing support for this one through their drivers, right?11:35
Mronomabye a few months old11:35
Mronothey should be11:35
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NRG88why can't i eject a cd from the device itself? i need to rightclick and eject from linux11:37
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spiritzNRG88: it required to be unmounted before ejecting11:37
brodelI hate that too NRG8811:38
NRG88:(11:38
Mronomines ejects just fine11:40
cadfaelshared ram is a stupid idea11:41
cadfaelI mean sure it's cheap11:41
cadfaelbut why would I pay for a video card except to take some load off the system?11:41
Mronoyep11:41
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Mronothis laptop is 3.33ghz11:41
Mrono1gb ram11:41
Mrono100gb HD11:42
Mrono17in screen11:42
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cadfaelIt will be fine once I get more RAM perhaps, but this one just came with 256m (got it offa craigslist, don't laugh)11:42
Mronoand they put an ati radon 9000 with 128mb shared rn11:42
Biff`haha11:42
cadfaelshut up Chris11:42
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Biff`I have some "unaccounted for" ram at work.11:42
cadfaelyou don't say...11:42
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Mronoheh11:43
brodelbest laptop I've ever owned11:43
cadfaelany chance you could just...misplace one of the alienware boxes?11:43
Mronothey are cheap bastards11:43
Biff`I just had to send 2 alienware laptops back for service.11:43
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Mronothis laptop overheats11:43
Mronoscreens going11:43
cadfaelit's not overheating.  it is a lap warmer.11:43
brodelvaios11:43
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Mronohas mem problems11:43
Mronounconfirmed11:43
brodelsounds like my sony I had hehe11:44
MronoI ran a mem test and it did 9 passes with 0 error11:44
Biff`I have an old Vaio at work... Kubuntu works great on it... can't get XP to run at optimal resolution at all.11:44
MronoIt's like a fricking jumbo jet11:44
Mronoloud11:44
coolio10hi11:44
Mronoxp works great on it because of all the damn drivers I have to use to get it to work right11:44
brodelI have dropped my toshiba pretty hard a few times and worried it wouldn't work again. the worst that ever happened is the speaker cover popped off.11:44
cadfaelWe should see if we can get Dave to donate it.11:44
MronoI like dells11:44
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Biff`brodel ... is it a toughbook?11:44
cadfaelTell him it's broken11:44
brodelBiff`:  no11:45
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brodeljust an old-ish satellite11:45
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Mronomines a p35-s11111:45
Mronosatellite11:45
Biff`cadfael ... it won't even POST ... dout it's even usefull as a boat anchor.11:45
MronoI set it on a bed and in 30 sec it overheats11:45
coolio10how do you use wine?11:46
Biff`apt -get install wine11:46
Biff`wine yourprogram.exe11:46
Biff`I'm chatting with mIRC via wine.11:46
Mronoreally11:46
Mronomine closes after a fedw min11:46
brodelhaha11:46
cadfaelare you just too good for Konversation?  Is that it?11:46
Mronoit'll open11:46
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Mronobut then it closes11:46
Biff`mirc is teh shiat.11:46
MronoI want my mirc back11:46
Mronoagreed11:47
coolio10what you mean wine myprogram.exe?11:47
cadfaelBiff`:  you're running bitchx too aren't you?11:47
Mronocoolio1011:47
Mronoright click on the exe11:47
Mronoclick open with11:47
Mronoand type wine in the top11:47
Biff`cadfael ... nope... just mIRC.11:47
Mronothen click ok11:47
cadfaelI want to run kubuntu inside a vmware box inside wine on kubuntu11:47
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Tm_Tok11:48
Biff`What could go wrong?11:48
cadfaelnothing!  that's the beauty of it.11:48
cadfaelif something goes wrong with the plan, just change it and claim it was always like that11:49
brodelI couldn't get vmware to run in linux11:49
Mronos11:50
Mronoeesee11:50
Mronosee*11:50
Mronoit'll run11:50
Mronobut then i'll crash in a few min11:50
Biff`I'm running mIRC 6.16 just fine.11:50
MronoWW: test11:50
Biff`Wine even created a shortcut on my desktop... no problems.11:51
_bdoes audio app run under wine ?11:51
_bi mean is the ms sound mapper shit emulated ?11:51
Mronolike what11:51
Mronooh yeah11:52
cadfaelBiff`: you never have any problems11:52
cadfaelyou lead a charmed life11:52
_bnice!11:52
cadfaelremember what a pain in the ass it was when I tried to install Superkaramba?11:52
_bgot some app hard to live without11:52
Biff`It was easy here.11:52
cadfaelMaybe if I stopped using computers from 10 years ago I would have fewer problems11:53
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Biff`your sources.list was teh suck.11:53
Biff`heh.11:53
cadfaelCan you loan me $3k until payday?11:53
Mronohmm11:53
Biff`1990 called. It wants its PC back.11:53
Mronoit's running rather well11:53
_bim running old epia 500 mhz11:54
cadfaelSo today I find my roommate had halflife 2.  I never got to play it (was running a p3/500 when it was out) so now I'm all excited11:54
cadfaelup until it asks for a CD key.  "Ozzy, have you got the CD key?"  "What CD key?"11:54
cadfael"The one that came with the game, and the manuals, in the box."  "I tossed all that shit out."11:55
_blol!11:55
cadfaelHe's all "I thought steam would just register it for you."11:55
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cadfaelok brb reboot11:56
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reidmsCan someone please help me, I am having serious problems!11:57
Mronolol11:57
_bu re online it cant be that serious !11:57
Mronowee11:57
MronoI got my mirc back11:57
Mronohappy days11:57
reidmsIm using a live CD11:58
_bops11:58
MronoI'm going to try to run linux on my server11:58
Mronosee if it works11:58
MronoI may end up doing that11:58
reidmsI had Kubuntu booting fine, then I tried to install Fedora Core 4 and it wouldnt work.  I reinstalled Kubuntu and now when I try to boot it all it is a a blinking curser.11:59
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NRG88if i go under ctrl+alt+f1 for example, how do i return?12:00
reidmsWhat do you think I did?  Did I destroy my MBR?  Kubuntu says that I installed grub, but grub wont come up.12:01
Mronoctrl+alt+f712:01
MronoI use it as like a restore thing12:01
NRG88thanks Mrono12:01
Mronoincase something in the xwindow screwes up12:01
Mronoand I cant get to a console12:01
MronoI just do that and do ps -x to show all the processes12:02
NRG88yeah, vmware screewed it up for me last time12:02
Mronoand kill what I need12:02
NRG88i did the same thing, only didn't know how to come back :D i used ctrl+alt+f812:02
NRG88and the f11 i think, and could'n switch anymore12:02
NRG88these are terminals?12:03
Mronoy12:03
Mronoep12:03

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