[12:04] mehaga: does it work? === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === beast [n=beast@host-73-147-220-24.midco.net] has joined #kubuntu === hutschenreiter [n=hutschen@dslb-084-060-008-063.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === hutschenreiter is now known as samual === samoura [n=samoura@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] #samoura === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:08] could somebody please try to help? my dhcp is not starting at boot-time and I have to start it each time manually... [12:08] i will leave now [12:08] bye [12:08] samual [12:08] postbin /etc/network/interfaces [12:10] noteventime: auto lo [12:10] noteventime: iface lo inet loopback [12:10] !postbin [12:10] Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime [12:11] noteventime: what is postbin? [12:11] !pastebin [12:11] well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :) [12:11] pastebin i mean, sorry [12:11] noteventime: don't have such a command. [12:12] its not a commad its a webpage [12:12] !pastebin [12:12] somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :) [12:12] :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-113-76.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26188.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] noteventime: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d9275 [12:14] Hi all! [12:14] ok === dark_suic [n=dark_sui@82.213.133.120] has joined #kubuntu [12:15] i've got a problem... i just installed kubuntu (5.10) and now kde-su doesn't work... something about "not able to contact su"... "sudo -s" doesn't work either... it asks for my password and then open's a shell... but not for root but for the same user who executed "sudo -s" [12:15] samual: auto rausb0 should do the work [12:16] noteventime: really? [12:16] noteventime: that would be cool. gotta go and try. :-) [12:16] Strange thing it doesn't [12:16] you already have that [12:17] thats the problem === samoura [n=samoura@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [12:18] noteventime: hmmm, and what about line 11? [12:18] #samoura [12:18] thats what i mean [12:19] how do i play wmv files? [12:19] noteventime: I take it out then? [12:19] no [12:19] no [12:19] xwolf install w32codecs [12:19] !wmv [12:19] restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats === theball [n=shane@perseus.mpcu.com] has joined #kubuntu === kongen [n=kongen@128.39.146.7] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] noteventime: so, you wouldn't know the answer? === theball [n=shane@perseus.mpcu.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:22] No, I'm sorry [12:22] i thought you might have missed the auto for some reason === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26188.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:23] re [12:27] kubuntu seemed to miss to edit my /etc/sudoers-file during installation... [12:28] could someone please show me, how my primary user should be listed in there? === iris [n=iris@cm-83-97-232-131.telecable.es] has joined #kubuntu [12:30] hiya === s_v_e_n [n=sven@p5487EB51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:32] Help with Knoda please, Im runnung Kubunto and cant get scripting to work === xwolf- [n=igor@201.32.254.119] has joined #kubuntu [12:33] i installed w32codecs package... but i can't find mplayer in apt [12:34] course not [12:34] it's not there [12:34] command line [12:34] great. [12:34] hm... is the admin-group in kubuntu 5.10 "admin" or "adm"? [12:34] yep [12:34] or [12:35] you can also do an open with [12:35] and put mplayer in it [12:35] :) [12:35] so when you double click on the file it runs the command [12:35] but i don't think it is installed, mrono [12:35] mplayer file [12:35] try [12:36] hello [12:36] noteventime [12:36] come back i was eating :D [12:37] Mrono 'cannot find mplayer program' [12:37] well, that's the ideia [12:37] *idea [12:37] Hobbsee HEEEEEELP! [12:37] I compiled mine [12:37] lol === tafsen [n=tafsen@41.82-134-62.bkkb.no] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] lol [12:38] krita keeps crashing === gamma [n=gamma@192.237.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] mrono? [12:38] yo === wimpies [n=u19809@cable-87-244-144-61.upc.chello.be] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] can you help me [12:38] ? [12:39] do... [12:39] HOBBSEE!! [12:39] help me with a boot [12:39] what's wrong with it [12:39] I might know something [12:39] hoooooobsse e eee [12:39] :- ( === zephryos cries [12:39] lol [12:39] what's wrong [12:39] I cant find a driver that works [12:40] i have set it up but i cant connect the bot to any server so can you read this becouse you understand better engilish than me http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php and than go down and read it please ;S [12:40] lol [12:40] I have to recompile my kernal [12:41] mrono [12:41] yeh === zephryos /me /me /me /me === zephryos meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [12:41] #samoura come on this channal please :( to help me [12:41] uh ok [12:42] how do i install mplayer? ;> [12:42] try [12:42] apt-get install mplayer [12:42] er [12:42] hey zephryos [12:42] sudo that [12:42] couldnt. === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [12:42] ok [12:42] compile it [12:42] yeah, i'm downloading the bz2 already ;/ [12:43] but i don't have enough kung fu yet [12:43] dumb question.. is there an easy way of selecting links in a web browser w/o a mouse? [12:43] uh huh [12:43] extentions [12:44] ahm [12:44] gamma pressing TAB? ;P [12:44] bleh :P [12:44] that's annoying on sites with tons of clickables [12:44] true. [12:45] guess mouse it is.. [12:46] I need some help with setting up my mousde [12:46] the middle button doesn't work right [12:46] gamma: you could always use elinks/w3m if you want a web browser without a mouse === Zappa [n=andrew@81-86-167-73.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:47] i was hoping there was something i could do using konqueror [12:47] shift from mouse to kb wastes time :P === kitsch [n=sam@84-217-27-2.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] lol === chavo [n=chavo@fl-atlnfl-u3-c4b-189.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === julian [n=julian@host157.201-252-90.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu === Mazingaro [n=tetsuja@host21-226.pool8710.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] I need to get more codecs for my mplayer [01:06] and i got a video of my poiwermate === Ahmuck [n=chatzill@24.225.23.76] has joined #kubuntu [01:10] w32codecs includes a lot of crap :P [01:11] I still need more [01:11] I have no other video players [01:12] mplayer is the only one that works [01:12] two major things [01:12] I need to get video playback working [01:12] I need to get wifi working === chavo [n=chavo@fl-atlnfl-u3-c4b-189.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] those are pretty much the two major things === farous [n=farous@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] !tell Mrono about wifi [01:13] besides my toshiba stuff [01:13] yada [01:13] seen it [01:13] the last week has been one big scavenger hunt [01:13] it's taken me a whole week to get here [01:13] literally [01:13] lol [01:13] almost I started on sunday === xwolf- [n=igor@201.32.254.119] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] anyone use smart DJ === chavo [n=chavo@fl-atlnfl-u3-c4b-189.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:15] weird [01:16] all the problems i've had with kubuntu have been minor stuff compared to gentoo [01:16] my wine dispeared when I upgraded to 3.5.1 === georgy [n=georgy@217-117-42-55.teledisnet.be] has joined #kubuntu === blackvd [n=blackvd@cpe-24-27-16-114.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] kubuntu makes everything easy imo :P [01:16] it's probably there, the icon is just gone [01:16] it is [01:16] sweet [01:16] to install kde 3.5 i just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right? [01:16] UT seems to run [01:16] fresh install of ubuntu [01:17] blackvd: if you're running dapper, yes [01:17] install the KDE repositories [01:17] no just 5.10 [01:17] noo [01:17] you'll need the extra repositories for breezy [01:17] it just crashed [01:17] darnit [01:17] can you point me in the right direction to get it? [01:18] http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php [01:18] !3.5.1 [01:18] 3.5 [01:18] !3.5 [01:18] gamma: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ [01:18] !kde-351 [01:18] Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gamma [01:18] hmm i guess there was a factoid about it and was in the topic before === McScruff [n=mcscruff@cpc3-folk1-3-0-cust141.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] !amarok [01:18] methinks amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ [01:18] blackvd: you can get kde with only version 3.4.3 with just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [01:18] !kde3.5 [01:18] (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". [01:19] !kde3.5.1 [01:19] To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". [01:19] aha [01:19] blackvd: ^ [01:19] !amarok-1.4 [01:19] gamma: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ [01:19] !amarok [01:19] I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ [01:19] Hobbsee: to the rescue :) [01:19] farous: :) [01:19] cool thanks [01:21] i fooked up my kubuntu install earlier, i went to remove a package and it ended up removeing 99% of kubuntu, is there a way to fix this for next time? [01:21] McScruff: don't do that again [01:21] :P === zephryos [n=zephryos@c-67-166-172-29.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:21] lol, i will try not to :) [01:21] ok I foudn a drvier and it seems to work [01:21] McScruff: if you do it again just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [01:21] now I just cant connect to the network.. or something [01:21] i dont know === zephryos cries again [01:21] should give you all the basics again [01:21] McScruff: try the -s option to simulate before installing or removing next time [01:21] gamma , i tried that, apt-get has been removed [01:22] wtf did you try removing? 0.o [01:22] i cant remember :) [01:22] like the kernel? cuz i did that once -.- [01:22] it prob was the kernel [01:22] Hobbsee you there? [01:22] coz for some reason 386 gets installed , grrrr [01:22] yea make sure you preview the changes of stuff it's going to remove when you get rid of stuff [01:22] zephryos: yeah === CheeseBurgerMan [n=bigk@63.150.80.167] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] McScruff: there isn't any speed difference between 686 and 386 kernel wise, so don't worry too much about switching over [01:23] i already switched on this install :) [01:23] Hobbsee: I found the correct driver for my wireless card. I had my stepdad make the network open for a little while to see if it will work. [01:23] there were performance benchmarks out there on the net and they were neck and neck [01:23] oh goody! === Hysty [n=Me@cwpp-p-144-134-211-254.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] Hobbsee: It will detect the network, and it shows it in KWiFiManager, Channel 8, and that .. but I have no IP addy and I cant get anything from it when I disable the lan connection. [01:24] Got to install vmware now :O [01:24] zephryos: try a sudo ifup wlan0 [01:25] then a sudo dhclient wlan0 [01:25] I did... [01:25] to package people, how come vmware player isnt a package :S [01:25] Mrono [01:25] i ran ./configure [01:25] you be wanting me? [01:25] then make [01:26] and? [01:26] what do i do now? [01:26] type sudo make install === __mikem [n=michael@201-106.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] done [01:27] isn't there a gui or sth? [01:28] <__mikem> Why does ubuntu run slowly under vmware? [01:28] nope [01:28] see the man pages for help [01:28] or to have it auto run a file [01:28] right click on the file [01:28] click open with [01:29] type in mplayer in the top [01:29] __mikem : when i tested it before it was fine for me [01:29] then click use for all file types or whatever [01:29] then ok === georgy [n=georgy@217-117-42-55.teledisnet.be] has left #kubuntu ["BYE"] === Mazingaro is back (gone 00:00:47) [01:31] hmm [01:31] ooh cool volatile === Mazingaro is back (gone 00:00:49) === Mazingaro is away: I'm busy === kitsch| [n=sam@84-217-23-209.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:33] hello is there a computer pro here? === zephryos [n=zephryos@c-67-166-172-29.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === _djib [n=djib@brusa.chu.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] damnit Hobbsee >.< [01:34] zephryos: it didnt like it? [01:34] what happened? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu === acelin [n=acelin@pool-151-200-122-151.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === zephryos [n=zephryos@c-67-166-172-29.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:35] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in how do i copy this by simple copy and paste? [01:35] hello help [01:36] ! register [01:36] register is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :)) === zephryos is now known as Zephryos [01:37] Can anyone see me type? :- \ [01:38] hey xwolf did it work? [01:38] no [01:38] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in how do i copy this by simple copy and paste? [01:38] bah where'd Hobbsee go? [01:38] lol === Hobbsee is here, in bits and pieces [01:38] Zephryos: have you never heard of a /whois [01:39] ? [01:39] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in how do i copy this by simple copy and paste? === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] What about it? === Mrono is here in bits and bytes [01:40] Help me please [01:40] does no body knows about this? [01:41] how do you find out what video card your using? I think its intel815... but I'm not sure... [01:42] ryanakca: lspci [01:42] in a terminal [01:42] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in how do i copy this by simple copy and paste? PLEASE can any one knows this yes or no? [01:43] how do i copy and paste in Konsole help [01:44] samoura: use the mouse buttons [01:45] right click and select paste [01:46] sweet [01:46] I just ran UT through WINE [01:46] and it worked [01:46] brb [01:46] Shift+Insert is also paste in Konsole. [01:46] setting it up === gosuflavor [n=taromsn@c-24-63-87-236.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu [01:48] Hey, can someone help me out? [01:48] I'm getting a problem with ndiswrapper === s_v_e_n [n=sven@p5487EB51.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] [01:49] gosuflavor: what problem? [01:49] I'm trying to install a driver for my wireless adapter [01:50] how do you get cron to run "apt-get update" every hour on the hour? [01:50] gosuflavor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29 [01:50] Checked that [01:50] oh [01:50] Didn't work? === [muttox] [n=dave@203-206-237-194.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] I got to sudo modprobe ndiswrapper [01:51] I checked the log, but it hangs [01:51] There isn't any "taro@ubuntu:~$" === [muttox] [n=dave@203-206-237-194.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:52] The log says <3>ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1534):loadndiswrapper failed (11); check system log for messages from 'loadndiswrapper' [01:53] gosuflavor: check /var/log/syslog or "dmesg | grep ndis" === l3m [n=l3m@84-73-62-186.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] I get the same message, but at the end, I have Feb 24 19:41:46 ubuntu -- MARK -- [01:55] gosuflavor: what wireless card do you have? [01:55] WUSB54G [01:55] v4 [01:56] gosuflavor: and which chipset is it? "lspci -v" [01:57] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in how do i copy this by simple copy and paste? PLEASE can any one knows this yes or no? [01:57] how do i copy and paste in Konsole help [01:57] The thing is, it's not a PCI card [01:57] It's USB [01:57] samoura: To copy, select the text, right click, and press copy [01:57] samoura: to paste, press Shift + Insert [01:57] IT WONT WORK === RickKnight [n=sforwk@63.81.143.202] has left #kubuntu [] [01:58] gosuflavor: sorry, "lsusb -vvv" [01:58] CheeseBurgerMan: i think samoura needs copy file [01:58] Oh. [01:58] cp [01:58] IIRC === hDp` [n=headup@abo-0-249.modems.semnet.tm.fr] has joined #kubuntu [02:00] So far, it isn't responding [02:00] how do i use cp [02:00] file:///home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub [02:00] how do i copy and paste in Konsole help [02:01] It's letting me type on the new lines with no "taro@ubuntu:~&" [02:01] samoura: cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub [02:02] mm funny thing the most common reply in #debian is google it. sometimes i feel i want to use it here [02:02] i want to copy this conf.hub to the binary [02:02] farous: yes, same. or do a copy paste of what was said above [02:02] how do i do that [02:02] i want to copy this conf.hub to the binary [02:02] how do i do that [02:02] samoura: Where is the binary? [02:03] /usr/bin [02:03] cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:04] samoura@dhcppc0:~$ cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:04] cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/bin/conf.hub': Permission denied [02:04] then sudo it [02:04] sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:04] tale care Hobbsee got to do some real work now. Take care all :) [02:04] sudo: /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found [02:04] samoura@dhcppc0:~$ [02:04] BRB [02:05] samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:05] sudo: /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found [02:06] you have to use sudo cp, not just sudo === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26188.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:06] The "lsusb -vvv" didn't work === hDp` [n=headup@abo-0-249.modems.semnet.tm.fr] has joined #kubuntu [02:08] samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo /Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:08] sudo: /Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found [02:08] samoura: sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:08] samoura@dhcppc0:~$ samoura: sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:08] bash: samoura:: command not found [02:08] Don't include your name [02:09] now output? [02:09] no output ? [02:10] samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:10] if you want output, type sudo cp -v ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:11] `/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub' -> `/usr/bin/conf.hub' [02:11] no out put :S [02:11] is it bad? [02:11] No. It copied. [02:11] yppi [02:11] can you help me more [02:11] Dunno if my patience can handle it, but what's the problem? [02:12] read this i cant anderstand http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php down down === yellowdart [n=yellowda@cpe-24-166-51-128.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] Can someone help me? [02:14] ask the question and you might get an answer [02:15] I already asked [02:15] nice come back === hatake_kakashi scrolls up [02:15] anyone here running KBFX? [02:15] gosuflavor: which version of ndiswrapper are you using? [02:15] The one that came with 5.10, I don't have internet access on that one [02:16] ahh man, usb wifi [02:16] gosuflavor: you can compile a newer version of ndiswrapper if you like, to see if that works better [02:17] Will I be able to without the updated files? [02:17] Or would I have to burn them to a CD? [02:17] Wait... [02:17] Dumb question, nevermind [02:18] Ok, I'll try that [02:18] Thanks [02:18] download them on the comp with a net connection, along with instructions, use a cd/usb stick or whatever to transfer them over? === Hobbsee is using 1.11rc1 and it seems to be working ok here [02:18] 1.10 also works on dapper - untried on breezy though === CheeseBurgerMan uses whatever came with it on breezy [02:19] it works, and I don't want to fiddle with it. :P [02:19] hehe true [02:19] you're lucky - it's borked on dapper, so you have to compile it yourself [02:19] fortunately, it's very simple [02:19] yeah, ./configure make install stuff. ;) [02:19] sudo cp -v ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin [02:19] `/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub' -> `/usr/bin/conf.hub' [02:20] great, samoura. We saw that. [02:20] okei did you read this === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:20] hey come on #samoura [02:20] to help me better please [02:20] -_- [02:20] if you have a problem, I'll help you in here. [02:21] okei [02:21] or, try to. ;) [02:21] read this i cant anderstand http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php down down [02:21] i am trying to install a bot [02:21] Just use chanserv. :P [02:21] this bot has 44 bots in it and the bots can go on the same channal [02:22] great, 44 bots to memorize. [02:22] yes [02:22] and i want it ;( [02:22] BTW [02:22] please help me === delphlelfe [n=delphlel@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === brodel [n=brodel@pool-70-16-230-211.rich.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] samoura@dhcppc0:~$ psotnic -c config.file [02:23] Psotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51) [02:23] Copyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin [02:23] [*] Loading decrypted config from 'config.file' [02:23] [-] Cannot open config file: No such file or directory === jhughes [n=jhughes@64.113.172.10] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] if you'd read it, it says " First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :)" [02:23] So, edit it [02:23] ohh why cant this just run :( [02:23] how? [02:23] make sure the path to config.file is correct [02:23] i am new in this linux [02:24] No idea, that's what it says. [02:24] ;) [02:24] hi delphlelfe [02:24] crimsun do you have than kind of bot [02:24] samoura: you are supposed to put it where it asks you, not where-ever you desire. [02:25] lol [02:25] samoura: ...no [02:25] how do you get cron to run "apt-get update" every hour on the hour? [02:26] i am trying to put it in a binary folder [02:26] and i dont know how [02:27] ryanakca: assuming you are using vixie cron: http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm === aseigo is now known as aseigo_tgif [02:28] samoura: did it say to put it there? isn't there a manual to say where its put? [02:29] psotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub <-- try this [02:30] samoura: by 'edit it' it means to..well..edit the /usr/bin/conf.hub using the options given in section 1. (nick, realname, nickappend, etc) [02:32] http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page [02:32] every one help me please === thomas [n=thomas@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] Hi, I accidentally installed kscreensaver, and when I try to install it, it tells me to insert the CD [02:33] my CD drive dosen't work, btw [02:33] hey [02:33] mplayer-386: [02:33] Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable [02:33] http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page [02:33] thomas: try sudo apt-get remove kscreensaver [02:33] it says it isn't installed [02:33] oh [02:33] but it refuses to download it, just wants the CD [02:34] could I modify my sources.lst to fix that? [02:34] comment out the line that contains about the cdrom I presume? [02:34] Psotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51) [02:34] Copyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin [02:34] [*] Loading decrypted config from 'config.file' [02:34] [-] Cannot open config file: No such file or directory === ltmon [n=ltmon@dsl-220-235-91-227.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:34] [-] Cannot open config file: No such file or directory how to run it === stoned [i=bunghole@ip68-12-72-181.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:35] good grief, samoura. Try what hatake_kakashi said. [02:36] ha, it's the first line too :) [02:36] what did hi sayd [02:36] psotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub [02:36] thank you :) [02:36] thomas: don't forget to apt-get update after uncommenting it [02:36] err commenting it out [02:36] np [02:37] [-] Cannot open config file: Permission denied [02:37] sudo psotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub [02:38] Psotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51) [02:38] Copyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin [02:38] [*] Loading decrypted config from '/usr/bin/conf.hub' [02:38] [-] /usr/bin/conf.hub:8: Unknown host: 127.0.0.1. [02:38] [-] Failed to load config [02:38] hmm... what's interesting is that the Random screensaver has waaay more screensavers in it than I can choose from :? === thomas is now known as TD-Linux === _chavo [n=chavo@fl-atlnfl-u3-c4b-189.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === Daillew [n=david@82-39-76-207.cable.ubr02.jarr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === louis^ [n=louis@modemcable145.80-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:38] TD-Linux: not sure [02:38] Hello [02:38] sudo psotnic /usr/bing/conf.hub [02:38] hello [02:38] whoops [02:39] i need to test my fps with glxgear [02:39] how? [02:39] sudo psotnic /usr/bin/conf.hub [02:39] samoura@dhcppc0:~$ [-] Failed to load config [02:39] bash: [-] : command not found [02:39] lol, thanks hatake_kakashi [02:39] np CheeseBurgerMan [02:39] Does anyone know where i can get a package for Amarok 1.4b1 for Dapper that has been compiled with ipod support? [02:40] hateke-kakashi please help me on #samoura channal [02:40] louis^: I think its glxgears -showfps but you need to type that in konsole and wait for a few seconds because it will output it afterwards [02:40] k [02:40] hateke-kakashi please help me on #samoura channal [02:40] samoura: no.. I'll only help in here, I'm already in far too many channels === Daillew [n=david@82-39-76-207.cable.ubr02.jarr.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === michael [n=michael@201-106.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:41] louis^: err try -printfps [02:41] k [02:41] hateke-kakashi can you help than? [02:41] samoura: not really, I can probably try [02:41] http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page [02:41] louis^:glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark [02:42] ... [02:42] http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php read it it is there i am reading and trying folow after [02:42] glxgears -showfps [02:42] oot@Louis-Philippe:/etc/X11# glxgears -printfps [02:42] Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server [02:42] Xlib: No protocol specified [02:42] Error: couldn't open display :0.0 [02:42] root@Louis-Philippe:/etc/X11# [02:42] man glxgears. ;) [02:42] i'm not being facetious louis^ .... that's a real option !! :) [02:43] louis^: you are running it as super-user, you are supposed to run it as you own user account, the one thats logged into the Xorg server [02:43] k [02:43] samoura: did you properly config your config file? [02:43] s/you/your [02:43] louis@Louis-Philippe:~$ glxgears -printfps [02:43] 1047 frames in 5.0 seconds = 207.508 FPS [02:43] thanks! [02:43] np [02:43] ltmon: amazing, that also works too :) [02:44] i don even know how to confuger [02:44] tell me please [02:44] hihi [02:44] ;S [02:44] i'll reboot, in order to reboot my X server :) === Hobbsee throws out her old printer [02:44] samoura: its been explained on that url you have pasted [02:44] i ajusted my ati drivers [02:44] louis^: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace [02:44] hatake_kakashi: Yeah... i think it's some X developer getting sick of people using the fps as some kind of graphics card bench [02:44] restarts the X server. [02:44] louis^: you don't have to reboot your computer just to do that [02:44] i don understand "I am new in linux" komon [02:44] ltmon: yeah I heard about that, but apparently -printfps also works :) [02:45] hatake_kakashi: yes... but it isn't as fun [02:45] how do i do this just tell me i extracted all the fails in desktop [02:45] /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7 [02:45] samoura: that's no real excuse, even if you are new you are supposed to learn. Open the config file with your favourite editor and adjust it to your taste according to that site [02:46] ltmon: heh, either way :) [02:46] okei [02:46] you mean that [02:46] Section 1 tells you the options you can put in. [02:47] op en up the config and write a password ? [02:47] is there a howto on making cron run "apt-get update" hourly? [02:47] kcron doesn't really help... [02:47] samoura: Section 1 give you the options you can use [02:47] ryanakca: the site I posted before didn't help? [02:48] sorry ryanakca, I'm still in the beginner stages of learning. ;) === raphink gets down to not get Hobbsee's printer in the face [02:48] no... [02:48] pfiew, it went all over the place [02:48] okei i have confugerd the config what than? [02:48] I can't imagine why not [02:49] I need it to run as root... [02:49] op en up the config and write a password ? === morgie [n=morgie@Quebec-HSE-ppp214406.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] ryanakca: you can't run apt-get as normal user === morgie [n=morgie@Quebec-HSE-ppp214406.qc.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:50] obviously [02:50] unless if you do suid, etc [02:50] hateke okei have confugerd what than [02:50] hateke okei have confugerd what than [02:50] you get root to add it into the cron themself [02:50] whot? [02:50] raphink: hehe - i shoulda defenestrated it from a high window [02:50] but it does work, with windows [02:51] hateke okei have confugerd what than [02:51] Hobbsee: what kind of printer is it? === tarmath [n=tarmath@Quebec-HSE-ppp224829.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:51] samoura: actually, I think you are supposed to make a config file from scratch. Does hub.conf look similar to the one on the website? if not then you need to make one from scratch [02:51] Hobbsee: sure, defenestrating works with windows ;) [02:51] hehe === tarmath is now known as Tarmath [02:51] how? [02:51] Hobbsee: still didn't try the ssh ? [02:51] I'm confusled [02:52] how? [02:52] raphink: no, i didnt - i reinstalled since then, so i dont have the commands [02:52] and i havent had anything to build [02:52] Hobbsee: ok [02:52] Hobbsee: keep in mind that whenver you want, you can access my machine for a build [02:52] ok :) thanks [02:52] it's all set [02:52] samoura: actually, I think you are supposed to make a config file from scratch. Does hub.conf look similar to the one on the website? if not then you need to make one from scratch all i hear is blabla la what is scratch ? [02:52] I'm having trouble mounting samba drives on boot [02:53] the drive tries to get mounted before Samba is loaded [02:53] does anyone know how to get around this? === stoned [i=bunghole@ip68-12-72-181.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:55] samoura: have you tried asking your questions on that web irc link? [02:55] web irk link [02:55] in what channal? [02:56] dunno, it there is a link of it on the url [02:56] Dunno - it's a javascript link. [02:56] yeah, you need java [02:57] look in the forums, there's probably a thread that shows the info. === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.134.119] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] yeah that too === _satan [n=satan@ip24-250-55-140.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu === zblach [n=zblach@Toronto-HSE-ppp3726494.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === kkrizka [n=kkrizka@d206-116-1-46.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu === mluser-home [n=mluser@ip68-0-79-59.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === zblach [n=zblach@Toronto-HSE-ppp3726494.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === natas [n=satan@ip24-250-55-140.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.101.135] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'. [03:13] how do i do this? === kaliwanagan [n=kaliwana@crous-inh.univ-angers.fr] has joined #kubuntu === __mikem [n=michael@201-106.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:17] anyone know of a good alternative to VMWare for KDE? [03:19] none are worth it [03:19] vmware is it [03:19] it is* [03:19] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'. Hwo to this pleas help [03:19] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'. Hwo to this pleas help [03:19] hey man === kaliwanagan [n=kaliwana@crous-inh.univ-angers.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@213.208.70.155] has joined #kubuntu [03:20] would anyone recommend a gui prog for firewalling on kubuntu? [03:21] natas, i would, but its better to learn iptables, THEN find a gui, with a supposition that you don't know iptalbes, if you do, there a bunch of them that get installed when you install full kubuntu. or you can check 'apt-cache search kde|grep fire' [03:22] hehe [03:23] not sure if i have my apt-get setup or it should be by default? [03:25] did that with sudo - nothing came up [03:25] huh? [03:25] apt is setup by default [03:25] oh thats what hes askin [03:26] I think so. [03:26] man people need to TRY and use better sentence structure and grammar [03:26] lol [03:26] i can't decipher all this shit [03:26] I know it. [03:26] Practice makes perfect though. ;) === KaoticEvil [n=kao@72.16.77.192] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] natas, just type what i said, dont' worry about sudo. when you find the package in the list, then use sudo apt-get install package [03:27] hey all :) [03:27] evil is not cool [03:27] chaos is even more uncool [03:27] lol [03:27] I like order, and good [03:27] im not really Kaotic or Evil... [03:27] well i did it in terminal - no list showed up [03:27] Yeah, just like I don't really like cheeseburgers. ;) [03:27] i dont have any package manager open so i dont know why nothing came up [03:28] natas, what did you type? === Mabus06 [n=Mabus@hlfxns0149w-142177142186.ns.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:28] apt-cache search kde|grep fire [03:28] that [03:28] i just got a new keyboard... and its a multimedia keyboard... [03:28] I'm brand new to kubuntu, but I've used ubuntu a while.. how do you change the screen resolution in kubuntu? [03:28] Oooh. lemme guess the problem. [03:28] opened new terminal window [03:28] well [03:28] i guess no packages exist then [03:28] The multimedia keys don't work. ;) [03:28] lol CheeseBurgerMan [03:28] exactly ;) [03:28] :P [03:28] just need a starting point where to look [03:28] same thing [03:28] Just noticed that too, now that you mention it. [03:29] how is that possible with installed apps? [03:29] They worked with ubuntu, not with kubuntu. [03:29] natas, you can do apt-cache search firewall [03:29] or better yet [03:29] KaoticEvil: I actually haven't a clue how to fix it - that was just a guess. :P [03:29] <__mikem> Is there any way to get ubuntu to run faster under vmware [03:29] ok [03:29] lol CheeseBurgerMan... thanks :P [03:29] No problem. ;) [03:29] heh [03:29] shorewall i will try [03:29] i know there are like two or three kde firewall gui's that get installed [03:29] i can't remember thier name === CheeseBurgerMan searches wiki/forums. === KaoticEvil does the same [03:30] well i guess there aren't any [03:30] hmm [03:30] you can google for one [03:30] iwill [03:30] i know there are some in kde [03:30] First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'. Hwo to this pleas help [03:30] Firestarter? [03:31] KaoticEvil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133610&highlight=multimedia === KaoticEvil finds a HowTo [03:31] yes [03:31] firestarter, kfirewall [03:31] !firestarter [03:31] http://www.webmin.com/download/modules/shorewall.wbm.gz [03:31] Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic. [03:31] one problem tho... [03:31] will X recognize the extra keys? [03:31] but i still say you should learn iptables [03:32] my old one was only a 104 key [03:32] KaoticEvil, i actually just added a factoid about that [03:32] :) [03:32] iptables are solid [03:32] !keytouch [03:32] rumour has it, keytouch is http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - KeyTouch is a program which allows you to easily configure the extra function keys of your INTERNET/MULTIMEDIA ready keyboard. Ubuntu packages available. [03:32] i know a little about iptables - and that is - copy everything mostly and fill in ip's with what you want [03:32] i still dont fully get iptables, maybe one day [03:32] Ah, but is it a true rumor. ;) [03:32] ip's / ports [03:32] thanks stoned :) [03:32] sure [03:33] but i find that there are differences between progs for firewall & actual iptables rules [03:33] that is the confusing part [03:33] i found the same link here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaKeys?action=show&redirect=MultimediaKeysHowto [03:33] how does being stoned and linux mix? [03:33] KaoticEvil, don't use 2.1 beta, it will crash your X. use only the stable older 2.0 keytouch [03:33] ok, will do [03:33] KaoticEvil, you will also have to install keytouch editor [03:34] KaoticEvil, and it is well documented as to how to setup your keyboard [03:34] if you have any trouble, i can help you with it, I spent a good solid 2 days on it with 3 diff keyboards [03:34] but if you can read and follow directions and think, you're good to go [03:35] lol === CheeseBurgerMan runs "man think" in Konsole [03:35] 'man woman' [03:35] well, i had a similar issue on a previous distro... [03:35] and also, another program should be called woman [03:35] the counterpart for man === _avdi [n=avdi@216.108.203.126] has joined #kubuntu [03:35] the only difference was that the multimedia keyboard was attached from the start, so it was easier :P [03:35] lol [03:36] stoned: what about X? will it see the new keys? [03:36] yeah "woman chmod" - that'll make chmod more fun. :P [03:36] :)) [03:36] you can modity the source for make, and edit a few strings, recompile, then type 'make love' and if you can think, it should say 'can't make love, too many arguments' [03:36] lol [03:36] or will i need to modify the conf file for it? [03:36] KaoticEvil, yes [03:36] KaoticEvil, only use keytouch, thats all [03:36] sweet :> [03:38] KaoticEvil, btw, when you get done generating the keyboard file for your keyboard, keep in mind that the keyboard file should be named after MODEL.MANUFACTURER. for example if i have an HP H7389 keyboard, I would name the file H7389.HP and place it manually in /usr/share/keytouch/keyboards/ [03:38] KaoticEvil, make sure the file name corresponds to the manufac. and model in the generated XML file [03:39] will do [03:39] don't use dashes/slashes/weird characters anywhere either [03:39] good thing i tore the model number slip off the box before i threw it in the trash ;) [03:39] hehe === tobe [n=tobe@dslb-084-063-009-242.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === tobe is now known as _tobe_ === _tobe_ [n=tobe@dslb-084-063-009-242.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:40] after you get done, please send your generated keyboard file to the author of keytouch so he can add that to the list === MusculosoMandao [n=Nome@200.175.227.75.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === MusculosoMandao [n=Nome@200.175.227.75.adsl.gvt.net.br] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:43] stoned: i will do :) === Mabus06 [n=Mabus@hlfxns0149w-142177142186.ns.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:46] Can somebody please tell me how to set the screen resolution? === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:46] Control Center > Peripherals > Display [03:46] Mabus06, right click desktop-Configure Desktop-Display [03:46] oh [03:46] or that way [03:47] yeah, you COULD do it the easy way. ;) [03:47] lol [03:47] tristanmike: it's not in settings? [03:47] Okay, thanks. [03:47] easiest way to vnc - install vnc ? [03:48] natas, sudo apt-get install xtightvncserver xtigntvncviewer === lampshade [n=mrw@69-23-135-209.cable.inebraska.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:48] doh [03:48] tightvncserver [03:48] does anyone use amsn? [03:48] fuck no [03:48] grr [03:48] HA! [03:48] lol [03:48] i cant get the music plugin working [03:48] really don't like it eh, stoned ? [03:48] hehe [03:49] ok [03:49] i can't dig micsoft [03:49] I'm not actually running kubuntu, but an ubuntu install that I added KDE to (technically the KDE-base with apt) I was wondering, is there a weather applet I can install like the one you can choose in gnome? So that a little sun and the temp are shown in my tray? [03:49] not becuause of the MS hate bandwagon [03:49] mostly because its useless [03:49] lampshade, try Superkaramba with liquid weather [03:49] and mostly just cause you should, :P [03:49] !superkaramba [03:49] SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org [03:50] i never can get this damn karamba thing to work [03:50] lampshade, yes, superkaramba is cool, but there's a simple "kweather" applet [03:50] said couldnt find package [03:50] natas, dude, learn apt. apt-cache search vncserver [03:50] or sudo apt-get install vncserver xtightvncviewer [03:50] lampshade, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6384 [03:50] i did that with vnc [03:51] then vncserver -depth 24 -geometry 800x600 or whatever else you want [03:51] hi [03:51] and i got krdc - krfb and libvncathauth-dev - libvncauth0 [03:51] im a semi noob and i managed to get superkaramba working nicely [03:51] natas, what are you trying to do?> [03:51] trying to vnc to this box [03:52] callie, mostly becuase i hate bloatware, with the exception of the kde-core i don't evne use full kubuntu [03:52] natas, what is the other box running as os [03:52] ok... well, stoned and CheeseBurgerMan... thanks for the help :) [03:52] os x - i have some vnc prog [03:53] natas, you don't need to do that [03:53] NP..even though i didn't help. ;) [03:53] ok [03:53] im sure i will be back if u run into another question... [03:53] os x runs an x server and has ssh installed by default [03:53] yep [03:53] so can do from terminal or something [03:53] I dumped Windows from my computer altogether in 2004, no regrets. [03:54] right now, ive got to go reconfigure my network... gotta get windows and linux networking again happily... [03:54] Can you make it like GNOME where each workspace has it's own taskbar? [03:54] peace yall :-) [03:54] The whole point of workspaces, for me, is so I can have many windows open with low resolution. === gamma [n=gamma@192.237.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:54] only reason i cannot dump winedows is games - and once all games go to vista - i may give up gaming besides console - which will suck - i think i will still play wow though [03:54] all you need to do is ssh -X login@osx.ip.here, then enter the password for the user that exists on os x, once you are logged into the os x box, run an X11 app and it should show up on your monitor [03:55] well im trying to do the opposite - so it should still work the other way around i just have to do it through x11 app? [03:55] you are on osx wanting to log into linux and run linux apps? [03:55] yes === gamma [n=gamma@192.237.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:55] the same should hold true [03:55] linux is gonna be my firewall/router - without display [03:55] doesn't matter if osx is bsd based or not, it still uses x11 [03:56] i wonder - can linux use x11 vnc session without video card or no? [03:56] so i dunno, you can try ssh -X into linux FROM osx and run an xterm & and see whats going on [03:56] since im not going to have monitor hooked up to it anyway [03:56] yes [03:56] that would be cool [03:56] wait [03:56] use one line man [03:56] confusing me n shit :/ [03:57] ok [03:58] unless you have onboard video on the motherboard [03:58] if there is no onboard video, you will need a gfx card [03:58] hey [03:59] for that for can get a cheap 20$ 32mb video card [03:59] how do I move stuff around on the taskbar [03:59] and anything linux, go with nvidia [03:59] Mrono, right lick, select move item, and just move it [03:59] ok i dont have onboard so im stuck ;) no biggi though [03:59] it's the system tray [03:59] so when i right click on it [03:59] it brings up the menu for that item [04:00] Mrono, move the mouse around in the immediate area surrounding the systray, you should see a small black arrow , click it, and then select move [04:00] oh right [04:00] I turned those off [04:00] turn those back on [04:00] put them on fade out [04:00] yeah [04:00] i like to have those as divisors on my panel [04:01] makes it easy for me === angasule [n=angasule@190.48.165.225] has left #kubuntu ["So] === tba44 [n=jw@adsl-68-93-67-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] do i have to log in as root or i should be able to log in as user? [04:02] i tried user and it said connection refused === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [04:02] natas, is sshd running on linux? is /etc/ssh/sshd_config configured with X11Forwarding On or whatever th eoptin it. look through there and enable it [04:03] k i will [04:03] natas, you have to login with the username/password that exists on linux machine, NOT on osx [04:04] i know that much - im guessing its that x11 config on the linux machine === tba44 [n=jw@adsl-68-93-67-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:05] natas, x11 on my broken scren laptop is not configured, only x-window-system-core is installed, I login with ssh -X user@laptop and i run any app i want === Ahmuck [n=chatzill@24.225.23.76] has joined #kubuntu [04:06] if you have a connection refused, tell me where you get it [04:06] is the linux not able to connect to the X11 server [04:06] or are you able to login with ssh [04:07] i tried ssh as well said refused as well === tba44 [n=jw@adsl-68-93-67-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === tba44 is now known as n5dwi [04:08] hmm [04:09] i dunno your setup, but I do that with my osx box and debian sid [04:09] there is no firewall running by default ? [04:09] you should check your osx settings === andred is now known as andre^off [04:09] i disabled on os x--- [04:09] you should look on osx/linux networking on google [04:09] same thing - error message points to auth on linux [04:10] irc support should really be your last avenue, after you have exhausted all other means === tba44 [n=jw@adsl-68-93-67-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === tba44 [n=jw@adsl-68-93-67-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === tba44 [n=jw@adsl-68-93-67-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === tba44 is now known as N5DWI [04:11] some reason i dont think ssh was installed ; X [04:11] i just installed it now going to try === __Ace__ [n=love@kr-lun-162-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:12] ok i connected now - but how do i pull up a gui? [04:20] for some reason my volume seems really low [04:20] Use KMix. [04:20] has there been some weird update to alsa? [04:20] CheeseBurgerMan: no shit [04:20] lol [04:20] ping [04:20] :P [04:22] I think it's some ALSA update in Dapper [04:22] Ah, Dapper [04:22] ;) [04:23] ugh, I don't think I have a weather station for my city :-/ how bout that...... damn Nebraska === xwolf- [n=igor@201.32.254.119] has joined #kubuntu === Nomad411 [n=Nomad411@CPE000d88f1925d-CM000a73668bc0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === digitalhobbit [n=mirko@adsl-71-132-235-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:26] lampshade, i thought that too, just play with it, you should get it. My town is really obscure and I ended up getting it [04:28] Is it possible to change the icon that Katapult associates with any given program/application? === tba44 [n=jw@adsl-68-93-67-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === tba44 is now known as N5DWI === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu [04:36] HI! === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #kubuntu === grimse [n=grimse@p5481C203.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === robotgee1 [i=venkat@digital.celebris.net] has joined #kubuntu === Pupeno [n=Pupeno@host136.201-252-53.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu === farous [n=farous@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === McScruff [n=mcscruff@cpc3-folk1-3-0-cust141.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Psi-Jack [n=psi-jack@cpe-70-112-220-160.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:02] hey [05:02] where can I get an amarok controller [05:02] an amarok controller? as in what? [05:04] something that sits on your desktop and controls amarok [05:04] ah === Steven_M [n=gold@210-246-21-123.paradise.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [05:04] well, there are shortcut keys that you can set in amarok, if you want to do it that way. otherwise, i'd say you're looking at a superkaramba theme [05:05] ah === reid [n=reid@adsl-159-204-202.bix.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === kubby510 [n=bbarker@adsl-69-105-44-140.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:05] if i install all of the Kubuntu extras (the graphics, toys, wallpapers ,ect) will it slow it down? [05:06] im having a lot of trouble with hotplug, can anyone help me? [05:06] does anyone here use aptitude? [05:06] Steven_M what is your question [05:07] hotplug wont load at startup === slloyd [n=slloyd@216-197-244-40.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #kubuntu [05:07] and it wont load when i try to start it in the services menu either... === chriswk [n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [05:08] hello, I am a newbie. Can anyone tell me when the next version of kubuntu (dapper) will be out? [05:08] farous: typing it out now === reid [n=reid@adsl-159-204-202.bix.bellsouth.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:10] slloyd: 20 april 2006 [05:10] anyone know much about hotplug? === kubuntu [n=kubuntu@dsl-29-8.cofs.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:10] farous: Cedega, is recogised as being installed in adept, but it's not on aptitude's list. I installed Cedega from a local .deb file (not from a repository) does anyone know how to make aptitude find it? === Hobbsee thinks she should have used raphink's machine instead of her own for building this! [05:10] thanks hobsee, are there instructions somewhere about how to upgrade from breezy to dapper? [05:11] slloyd: are you sure you want to? it can be quite buggy [05:11] Steven_M: that is a prob with aptitude it keeps a seperate list than dpkg and apt-get [05:11] !upgrade2breezy [05:11] The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade [05:11] substitute breezy for dapper in that guide [05:11] thank you very much [05:11] slloyd: if you're new to linux, you probably want to wait a while [05:12] not new to linux per se, just to ubuntu I have always used rpm based distros before (mandrake) [05:12] i am afraid though i do not know a work around. You are luck aptitude wants to uninstall my custom fglrx driver every time i run it [05:13] I am still getting used to the whole apt thing - but it is very cool, wey better way to upgrade [05:13] true [05:13] slloyd: dapper was highly unstable on my test notebook === jordan [n=jordan@c-71-196-196-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:13] and once you upgrade you can not down grade [05:13] re: dapper unstable - I am using a ibook g4 and ubuntu has worked no problem === emergence [n=area@CPE0014bf079de7-CM000e5c709370.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === GameOver69 [n=GameOver@ool-4350fc5b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:14] oh :-( you can't do a roll-back if there is a problem? [05:14] farous: without reinstalling [05:14] slloyd: it'd be like going from...mandrake 7 to mandrake 8 or something [05:14] whatever the version numbers are, i dont remember... [05:14] Hobbsee: ? reinstalling is not rolling back [05:15] ah, so wait and see. Good to know. How will I know when the best time to upgrade is? [05:15] anyone can tell me how to install azureus 2.4 possibly in the same light u can install firefox 1.5 from the ubuntu wiki? [05:15] farous: well...yeah...but it is a way to get back to the previous version [05:15] slloyd: when a lot of people do, probably in a couple of months [05:15] !azureus [05:15] azureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo [05:15] like that? [05:15] Hobbsee: agree. yet it was my test pc. a fresh breezy install then an upgrade. whenever i ifup the ethernet the whole pc freeze [05:15] a couple of months after the official release or from now/ [05:16] only problem I have with dapper is that kde and cups don't cooperate. [05:16] farous: ah yuck, i get that when i pull my wireless driver out [05:16] LeeJunFan: even if you ignore the warning? [05:16] Hobbsee, i was wondering about the enwesst release [05:16] 2.4 [05:16] thats the old relase [05:16] and for some reason u cant update it properly === Hobbsee goes to look at the guide [05:16] Hobbsee: no warning, it simply tells me it can't talk to cups server. [05:17] Well, thanks again all, I guess I will check back here when the official release for dapper comes out. [05:17] slloyd: install breezy its rock stable. Wait till the official release of dapper is out than enjoy the ride. Coming from Mandrake 9.0 , 10. myself [05:18] too late lol [05:18] farous: in that case is there a way to do a purge with adept? All I get from Adept is a remove button. [05:18] GameOver69: compile it yourself, i think - debian doesnt have a newer version than that [05:18] yah too late :) [05:18] i dont know how to compile [05:18] :( [05:19] !compile [05:19] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware [05:19] but besides that i mean.... in the wiki... u can put in firefox easily... and update it and everything..... i was wondering if i could do the same thing iwth azureus [05:19] Steven_M: sorry i do not use adept. I mainly use aptitude for package management === GullyFoyle [n=jon@64.252.90.204] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] form the command line === sonarbill [n=bill@c-68-35-133-8.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:19] What I don't get is why people get mad when an unstable version is um, well, unstable. [05:19] GameOver69: i doubt it, it's packaged completely differently i expect [05:19] LeeJunFan: hehe yeah. i dont either [05:20] LeeJunFan: you use dapper, right? do you use kopete at all? [05:20] !dapper [05:20] LeeJunFan: :) i guess you can just smile [05:20] Hobbsee: I don't use dapper very often, I need to be able to print too much. :) [05:20] ok === Hobbsee hopes this works [05:20] is there kaffeine-gstreamer for Dapper? === sonarbill [n=bill@c-68-35-133-8.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:21] farous: so do have any idea how to purge this package? [05:21] Steven_M: which package you wana purge [05:21] Steven_M: apt-get remove --purge packag === GameOver69 [n=GameOver@ool-4350fc5b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:21] e [05:21] Hobbsee: I've got 2 / partitions on my laptop, one for stable install one for devel (to play). Most of the time I do okay with devel releases, I can get by with things not working right for a day or week, but the dapper printing thing puts a big kink in things for me. [05:21] sudo apt-get remove [05:21] sorry i exited by accident [05:22] LeeJunFan: definetly, that's what i tend to do as well, before i moved to dapper full time [05:22] Hobbsee: much faster than me. I need some time to compile the question ;) [05:22] hehe [05:22] I am running 3.5.1 on breezy with kopete. [05:22] hmmm === nidev [n=nidev@211.213.60.63] has joined #kubuntu [05:22] wtf, gstreamer isn't installed at all in Dapper Flight 4? [05:22] weird [05:23] I am getting alot of cpu usage [05:23] 40% [05:23] just sitting there [05:23] so how can i install the new amorak... my understanding u need the latest beta build of dapper? [05:23] fatejudger: there was a move to xine instead. [05:24] LeeJunFan: really, why? [05:24] GameOver69: looks like you can get 1.3.8 on breezy. you do need dapper if you want 1.4 beta1 [05:24] LeeJunFan: do you know if they are going with the network manager? [05:24] LeeJunFan: xine video sucks, I can't even fast forward [05:24] Hobbsee, is there anyway i can download dapper through apt-get... im too cheap to burn it to cd? [05:24] LeeJunFan: at least over the network [05:24] farous: my cedega package the one I installed from a loacal .deb file that aptitude can't find. [05:24] farous: in dapper? network manager is having problems, i'm not sure if they're putting it in, knetworkmanager requires lots of things from cvs [05:25] GameOver69: if you want to, but expect lots of bugs [05:25] Steven_M: as Hobbsee said use apt-get remove --purge [05:25] Hobbsee, how buggy we talkin about? [05:25] fatejudger: I dunno what the reasoning was, but I was never able to get gstreamer to work so I've always used xine. [05:26] Hobbsee: ok i guess that is what keep breaking my notebook then thanks Hobbsee [05:26] hehe [05:26] could well be, i dont konw [05:27] I can't even hear anything in Xine [05:27] Anyone else not able to suspend to RAM with "official" [sic. crap] ATI drivers. [05:27] ? [05:28] and there's this stupid delay between you turning down the volume and it actually going down [05:28] LeeJunFan: i can not do it here neither with the opensource drivers or the prop ones [05:28] Hobbsee, ? [05:28] and i gave up on it totally. Not a big deal for me here [05:28] farous: is there a way I can confirm what the exact package name is? [05:28] GameOver69: different people have different levels of buggyness - they say it's not for production machines [05:28] Steven_M: search for it in adept [05:29] farous: hrm, the opensource ones allow me to, the prop ones will resume to a fubar display. [05:29] Steven_M: i prefer synaptic myself [05:29] Hobbsee, what do u mean production machines? [05:29] ones that you have to do work on and work all the time [05:29] make sure you know how to troubleshoot a network - seems to be lots of fun problems there [05:30] I see what's going on, Xine doesn't have smb:/ support [05:30] LeeJunFan: hybernate suspend to ram sleep all break my sys here. As i said though on my laptop i have no problems shutting down and turning on again [05:30] is there any way to get that? [05:30] break sys = does not work properly [05:30] fatejudger: I guess what works for one doesn't work for all. heh. xine is flawless for me. [05:30] LeeJunFan: even over smb:// ? [05:30] oh I know what it was [05:30] farous: ok thanks for your help, and for yours Hobbsee :-) [05:30] ok well how do u download the latest build through adept? [05:30] it was superkaramba [05:30] :) [05:31] :) [05:31] superkaramba was sucking up my sys resources [05:31] ah yes, that's normal [05:31] fatejudger: I haven't used it over smb in a long time, but I cant imagine why that would cause your volume delay even so. [05:31] it likes doing that [05:31] damn you brenden [05:31] mind you, so does a pbuilder :P [05:31] I hought you were going to help me rebuild my kernal [05:32] Mrono: yeah, superkaramba == cpu monitor that uses all your cpu time. [05:32] lol === [muttox] [n=dave@203-206-237-194.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [05:32] Mrono: it's not that bad with certain themes though. [05:32] Mrono: i use some gdesklets does not consume as much [05:32] depends why you use them anyway [05:32] hmmm [05:32] gdesklets [05:32] never heard of em [05:32] do not know if it will work on kde though === [muttox] [n=dave@203-206-237-194.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:33] GTK+ might work [05:33] gkrellm works fine for me. May not be the prettiest but it doesn't turn my fans into scramjets either. [05:34] gkrellm working fine here too. have all what i need. gdesklets just for the weather. My demands are not heavy for eye candys [05:35] unfortunately I am === Mrono is an eye candy adict [05:35] amarok won't start, gives me error about no sound engine plugins [05:35] anyone know how to install the latest dapper build through apt-get or some other way wtihout burning to cd? [05:36] !dapper [05:36] !+dapper [05:36] methinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break. join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it, or use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates [05:36] GullyFoyle: apt-get install amarok-xine [05:37] Hobbsee: i already did that. i also installed gstreamer etc.. [05:37] GameOver69: basically change breezy to dapper in your sources.list file [05:37] ah ok [05:37] anyone in particular? [05:37] or all of them [05:38] Eye candy comes a a price, there's a reason there wasn't eye candy on C= vic 20's you know :) [05:38] now that's cool! the update [05:38] r [05:38] GameOver69: i do not know which repos you have but i did them all [05:39] farous, and how does dapper work for u? [05:39] GameOver69: it is broken here [05:39] farous, so its not worth to upgrade yet? [05:39] others had better luck so it is a chancy decision === CellarDoor [n=unperson@d58-106-231-44.sun4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [""But] [05:39] GameOver69: works mostly here, ndiswrapper is borked, there's lots of fun wireless trouble at the moment. [05:40] oh, and checkinstall is borked as well [05:40] GameOver69: people upgrade to test it. They know it is not stable so they normally do that on a spare machine [05:40] farous: well...smart people do hehe.... [05:40] Hobbsee: :) === flamingxmonkey [n=upirc@d226-49-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:40] :P [05:40] CUPS is broken [05:40] hmmm... well i already have problems with ndis wrapper [05:41] like my wireless card never starting up with it [05:41] i have to always dhclient [05:41] GameOver69: do not think your problems will be easier if you upgrade. Most probably they will get worse [05:42] and frankly i find the ethernet here more reliable. Though my card has an open source drive. Wireless is just too much troubles [05:42] great... how come they just cant release something easy.... like for instance in windows were u can select the network.. and put in your wep key if needed [05:42] GameOver69: new version of ndiswrapper may well fix that [05:43] GameOver69: it's kwifimanager - doesnt seem to work too well. also, the network manager in system settings [05:43] Hobbsee, theres a new version????? or ur just saying a new version when it comes out might fix it [05:43] GameOver69: install network manager works perfect with breezy [05:43] Hobbsee, yea i know... it doesnt work well [05:43] network manager?... thats a package in adept [05:44] network-manager [05:44] though it breaks if you upgrade to dapper now ;) [05:44] farous: are you still there? === nidev [n=nidev@211.213.60.63] has joined #kubuntu [05:44] Steven_M: here my friend [05:44] ok installing now [05:44] i hope it works [05:45] !+networkmanager [05:45] from memory, networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto [05:45] GameOver69: ^ ^ read the howto [05:45] there is a setting you need to make to load it [05:45] doesnt that only work with gnome though? [05:46] I seemed to have problems, follow this link to see complete output [05:46] Hobbsee: worked with me under fluxbox. hmm do not know about kde. GameOver69 better check the howto before installing [05:46] ah ok === Hobbsee thought you needed knetworkmanager from cvs for that [05:47] farous: http://pastebin.com/571477 [05:47] How can I make Katapult aware of a program? [05:48] tristanmike: killall katapult, katapult [05:48] Steven_M: are you hooked up to the net [05:48] yeah [05:49] ok type sudo aptitude update [05:49] you just need to reload the package list [05:49] Hobbsee, cool, thanx [05:49] not a big problem [05:50] farous: why's that? [05:50] and from the post you sent it removed the package [05:50] Steven_M: i guess you have not done that for a while [05:50] does anyone have CUPS working in Dapper? [05:50] KDE doesn't seem to be able to communicate with the CUPS server [05:50] let me try... [05:50] Steven_M: ande that is in case new package lists are added to the repos. or new updates are available [05:50] how to reproduce - just add a printer? [05:51] Hobbsee: just open the printer manager should be enough. [05:51] hmm can you connect to it through konquer or firefox [05:52] no errors here [05:52] localhost:631 if i remember correctly [05:52] trying to add a printer [05:52] farous: but I didn't download cedega with apt-get, it was from a 33rd party .deb file. === GullyFoyle [n=jon@64.252.90.204] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:52] slow though [05:52] I mean 3rd [05:53] Steven_M: apt-get checks for new software or updates on the mirrors on the net when you run it automatically [05:53] Steven_M: so it is not specific to the cedega package you removed [05:54] farous: oh ok, sorry I'm fairly new [05:54] Steven_M: no problem my friend [05:55] LeeJunFan: freeflying: it seems ok, i just added a printer thru the control centre, with no problems. it says it's using CUPS [05:55] Hobbsee: did you add it with a kde app like thru kcontrol->peripherals->printers? [05:56] LeeJunFan: yep, that's exactly how i did it [05:57] Hobbsee: interesting, I tried just yesterday and it still wasn't working. At the bottom right of the printer control screen in kcontrol it should say how it's connected to cups - do you have localhost:631 or /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631? [05:58] server: localhost:631 [05:58] hmm [05:58] did you want a screenshot of what i see, or what? [05:58] let me change mine to that [05:58] man [05:59] Hobbsee: that's what mine is set to also. just a min, lemme boot to dapper and do updates. [05:59] I really don't want to be running my processor so high [05:59] but I want ym widgets [05:59] i've never changed mine - it worked out of the box [05:59] Hobbsee: Flight 4? [05:59] fatejudger: flight 1, then updated. both times [06:00] Hobbsee: I think the problem was post Flight 1 [06:00] ah ok... === Hobbsee has the updates, so expect that she should have hit that problem too [06:00] Hobbsee: someone probably had a little brain fart and change the path by accident [06:00] lol [06:01] hmm, it's still not working [06:01] printing seems to get very little priority [06:01] it's sad [06:02] it is [06:02] I like the new login screen though [06:02] that's pretty cool [06:02] figure it out and write a patch? [06:02] heh [06:02] indeed [06:02] I'm not that good === Hobbsee is working on a bug fix in kopete at the moment - we'll see.. [06:02] Hobbsee: you can code? [06:02] nope === GameOver69 [n=GameOver@ool-4350fc5b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] not yet, anyway [06:03] fatejudger: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/19661 [06:03] Hobbsee: lol [06:03] i'm doing some programming in my uni degree [06:03] farous: I'm updating the package now [06:03] so hopefully after that, i'll be able to do more... [06:03] that network manager never connects [06:04] Steven_M: cool [06:04] Hobbsee: so you have to build a couple of packages then? === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] *package list [06:04] fatejudger: yeah, the entire kdenetwork [06:04] how do I get stuff to boot up with login [06:04] Hobbsee: and you know how to do that? [06:04] GameOver69: did you check if it is not the router? [06:04] Hobbsee: I've never taken the time to learn how to build debian packages by hand [06:04] well, I still don't seem to be able to print but some funky other stuff happened. Apparently Xorg now supports glx with ATI native? [06:05] LeeJunFan: ? [06:05] well i was connected b4 [06:05] LeeJunFan: you mean fglrx? [06:05] this disconnected me [06:05] in a term type iwlist scan [06:05] fatejudger: yeah. [06:05] LeeJunFan: it has for awhile [06:05] asks me for my password... and never connects [06:05] LeeJunFan: months [06:05] fatejudger: not for me until just now. [06:05] LeeJunFan: you probably had some conflicting driver [06:05] GameOver69: did you reboot [06:05] LeeJunFan: I did [06:06] in the howto it say you have too [06:06] LeeJunFan: it was the Seveas repo [06:06] no [06:06] LeeJunFan: a fresh Dapper install fixed it though [06:06] it detected my connections just never logged in [06:06] fatejudger: I only have standard ubuntu repos. My own kernel compiled vanilla, only external driver is madwifi-ng and I haven't changed that stuff in months. [06:06] GameOver69: i remember they said you need to reboot to activate some services try that [06:07] fatejudger: owell, cool anyway. [06:07] LeeJunFan: are you going to try and fix CUPS? [06:07] all my fonts are huge now though. hehe [06:07] alright doesnt hurt i guess....alright then i can just add that to my start uo script and it shoudl work withiout having to dhclient and iwconfig all the time? [06:07] fatejudger: seveas have 3-d accel for the open ati drivers in his repos? [06:07] farous: no, he has fgrlx drivers for Breezy [06:07] farous: apart from that are you sure cedega was purged properly? [06:07] fatejudger: ah yeah, i hate that - only done that once, and it didnt work properly [06:08] Hobbsee: did you get any error at all? [06:08] but i do upgrading bits, and changing bits - just not from scratch [06:08] fatejudger: ok. [06:08] Steven_M: you can check using synaptic or adept [06:08] LeeJunFan: for which? cups? i did the first time i installed, and just hit ok [06:09] how do I get stuff to boot up with login [06:09] Hobbsee: when you went into the kcontrol printer module? I get can't connect to cups every time I open it. [06:09] i think i did once, i've not again [06:09] So I hit it again and I'm trying to add a printer now. [06:09] yep [06:11] farous ok. is there a way to install a local .deb file through aptitute so that it will know of it's existance? [06:11] LeeJunFan: you hit what again? [06:11] LeeJunFan: tell me if you fix it, I really hate switching to Windows to print [06:11] Hobbsee: okay, I added printer and it didn't show in list until I restarted kcontrol, don't know if I can print yet, if I try I'll probably be looking at a divorce since it's in the room my wife's sleeping in. [06:12] fatejudger: when you get the error about not connecting to cups, just hit ok. Then add a printer anyway, it won't show up in the list until you stop and start kcontrol again, then once you have a printer installed it doens't error any more. [06:12] hehe! [06:12] yeah [06:12] LeeJunFan: what about that server thing? === manveru is now known as manveru|afk [06:13] LeeJunFan: does it need to be on localhost? [06:13] LeeJunFan: or the default? [06:13] fatejudger: yeah [06:13] fatejudger: localhost:631 [06:13] fatejudger: probably work with the path to cups.sock the same way. [06:15] farous: that's my last question [06:15] shoot Steven_M [06:15] LeeJunFan: I don't think so [06:15] LeeJunFan: I tried that same process before [06:15] I'll be damned, all this time I probably could have been using dapper w/o any real problems. I remember when kde and cups first started integration, that problem was there until you had a printer added, forgot all about it. [06:15] LeeJunFan: in fact, I don't get that "can't connect to CUPS" error anymore [06:16] farous: is there a way to install a local .deb file through aptitute so that it will know of it's existance? [06:16] LeeJunFan: someone needs to report the fix [06:16] LeeJunFan: it's trivial and easy [06:16] fatejudger: what's the fix? [06:16] Steven_M: i do not know [06:16] Hobbsee: it needs to be set to "localhost" [06:17] ok thanks for your help farous :-) [06:17] Even when I talked with Riddell about it though a couple weeks ago he said dapper and cups were still a no go. hrm. [06:17] arg [06:17] fatejudger: patch it? [06:17] how do I resolve this [06:17] E: /var/cache/apt/archives/metabar_0.7-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/metabar.png', which is also in package konq-plugins [06:17] :) === Steven_M [n=gold@210-246-21-123.paradise.net.nz] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:18] there have to have been changed to kde codebase, becuase I know the root of the problem was/is that cups changed their API's. [06:18] Hobbsee: you can fix it [06:18] Hobbsee: you have access to the packages don't you? [06:18] fatejudger: i wouldnt bet on it [06:18] and anyone has access to it [06:18] apt-get source blah [06:19] Hobbsee: I meant you can upload them [06:19] Hobbsee: the fixes [06:19] to revu? i thought you could as well [06:19] I think only Riddell and one other guy have access to the kde core stuff. [06:19] i dont have access to kde core... [06:19] i'm just a packager - more on the outside [06:19] darn it! it failed! [06:20] damn, my color cartridge is running out [06:20] Hobbsee: message Riddell [06:20] Riddell: ping [06:21] please file a bug on it and attach a debdiff [06:21] !pastebin [06:21] I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :) [06:21] wtf is a debdiff? [06:21] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9289 [06:21] errors [06:21] can anyone make anything out of em [06:21] trying to install this [06:21] http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28725 [06:22] got those in the make part [06:22] fatejudger: difference file - *.dsc > blah.debdiff [06:22] crimsun: does Kubuntu have its own bug system? [06:22] I don't know how to do any of that [06:22] fatejudger: it's in malone [06:22] I'm not familiar with the system [06:22] !launchpad [06:22] fatejudger: no [06:22] methinks launchpad is a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/ [06:22] !malone [06:22] who's going to file the bug? [06:23] I don't want to file it twice [06:23] you are. [06:23] you can [06:23] gee, thanks [06:23] "gee, thanks"? [06:23] which package is responsible for controlling that stuff [06:23] crimsun: in case you didn't catch it, I was being sarcastic [06:24] should I just file it under the general package "cups"? [06:24] so now I suppose that I have 3d accel though I can't suspend/resume. hehe [06:24] LeeJunFan: it is worth it [06:24] fatejudger: sure; we'll reassign as necessary. [06:24] farous: not for me. [06:24] farous: I have to go work at other locations a lot. [06:25] LeeJunFan: not for games i am not a gamer. but for my presentations they run much smoother now [06:25] find out in a sec, be ready for ping timeout from me :) [06:26] LeeJunFan: read it on the forums that the new opensource ati will support 3-d natively. am not sure if dapper will have it or not [06:27] wtf === vinux [n=vinux@c-68-53-56-224.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:27] "something went wrong in launchpad"? [06:27] tell them about it in #launchpad [06:28] lol [06:28] now I have to file two bugs? [06:28] hehe [06:28] are you complaining about filing bugs? [06:28] that's the ENVIABLE position [06:28] bug filing is good for you - just make sure you assign it correctly - unassigned ones are so annoying [06:28] rofl yeah! [06:31] wtf [06:31] how is filing bugs good for me? [06:31] see, this is why people use Windows [06:31] well, you learn how to do it? === |kkathma| [n=kvirc@h-66-167-143-240.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === |kkathma| [n=kvirc@h-66-167-143-240.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Hello,] [06:32] fatejudger: its how you payback all the effort that is put in the distro that you use [06:32] fatejudger: and good practice for you too to curse ;) [06:32] well, fatejudger doesnt have to contribute === Snake|Carshow is now known as Snake__ [06:32] but it's hard to get things fixed if you dont contribute === pharmd24 [n=pharmd24@c-68-63-31-242.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:33] true === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:35] i thought you already did a lot of kubuntu stuff fatejudger [06:35] told ya :p [06:36] so I suppose if I comment out the 3d stuff from xorg.conf I should be able to suspend/resume again. [06:36] Hobbsee: no, not really [06:36] Hobbsee: I just hang around #kubuntu a lot [06:36] Hobbsee: and answer questions [06:36] fatejudger: do you work on skim/scim? [06:36] farous: btw - I can't suspend with klaptop app, it hangs, but if I killall klaptop_acpi_helper after it does suspend. [06:36] Hobbsee: no [06:36] oh, maybe i've got you confused then [06:37] Hobbsee: I'm too lazy to do any of this stuff [06:37] Hobbsee: I could do it, I know how to program, but I'm just lazy [06:37] fatejudger: if you don't file bugs when you find stuff that's broken, how are we supposed to fix them? [06:37] LeeJunFan: i find that suspend works, but is very slow [06:37] crimsun: hire a psychic? [06:37] LeeJunFan: hmm cool tip. Yet 3-d accel is number one priority here [06:37] fatejudger: well if it were that easy, why don't you fix them before we write them? [06:37] crimsun: to tell you the truth, I didn't know you wanted bugs filed for alpha software [06:38] fatejudger: you should always file bugs when you find broken stuff [06:38] crimsun: I'll keep that in mind next time I have a problem with Kubuntu [06:38] excellent. [06:38] crimsun: Dapper has been getting much better though, this CUPS thing was my last problem I think [06:39] fatejudger: oh, i'm confusing you with freeflying! silly me! [06:39] Hobbsee: I don't know him [06:39] actually hire a physic for the developers to tell them they are about to write a bug and they can then avoid it. [06:39] i thought there was only one long name starting with f [06:39] lol [06:39] Hobbsee: hmmm... [06:39] lol [06:40] damn all you f'ers! [06:40] :) [06:40] LeeJunFan: it'd be better to have psychics for nonsense feature-add user requests so they could be rejected. ;-) [06:40] hehe @ crimsun [06:40] "well of course Dapper's not going to fix your marriage, sheesh" [06:40] crimsun: what's wrong with wishlists? [06:41] crimsun: everyone wishes for eye-candy anyway [06:41] fatejudger: the keyword being nonsense [06:41] it'd be nice if they were actually filed as wishlists too [06:41] for me i know all the hardwork that goes into development and for that am just thankfull for the developers [06:41] oh wait, I remember my other problem now [06:41] if they make a mistake they need a way to know and we are all human. Doing lots of coding and programming and know how stupid pcs can be sometimes ;) [06:41] drives get mounted before Samba gets started [06:42] Thank you for the developers, and for the code they have delivered unto us this day.... [06:42] Xgl isn't a nonsense feature; it's a useful overhaul [06:42] so you can't mount samba shares at boot [06:42] crimsun: Xgl is broken in Kubuntu [06:42] I don't think of things as "eye candy" [06:42] forgive us our bugs, as we forgive our buggers. :) [06:42] LeeJunFan: lol [06:42] fatejudger: malone # ? [06:42] crimsun: umm, X freezes when I start it with XGL [06:43] crimsun: there's no howto for XGL on Kubuntu [06:43] crimsun: so I think I might be setting it up wrong [06:43] LeeJunFan: lol [06:43] crimsun: it also says it can't find the fglrx module [06:43] crimsun: but fglrx works fine... [06:43] Hobbsee: can you submit that CUPS bug for me? [06:43] Hobbsee: Launchpad isn't working for me [06:44] Hobbsee: I keep getting an error [06:44] fatejudger: i cant reproduce it [06:44] Hobbsee: don't worry about that, just file the bug [06:44] Hobbsee: someone will figure it out === kunjan [n=kunjan@adsl-66-140-72-167.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] I think the localhost:631 was fixed some time ago, but it wouldn't clear itself up because it got saved in your users .kde prefs [06:44] LeeJunFan: no, I did a fresh install of Flight 4 when it came o ut [06:45] crimsun: do you know of any Xgl howto for Kubuntu? [06:45] [23:44] [470] #java ##java Forwarding to another channel [06:45] [23:44] [Channel] You need to be identified to join that channel [06:45] wht does that mean/ [06:45] ? [06:45] fatejudger: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bugs [06:45] kunjan: you need to register [06:46] this is kinda offtopic here but how to register? [06:46] !+register [06:46] methinks register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :)) [06:46] thanks guys! [06:46] fatejudger: are you serious? [06:46] fatejudger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto [06:46] fatejudger: if you rm ~/.kde/share/config/kdeprintrc before you login to kde it will start over with defaults, I could swear it was the localhost:631 last time I tried. [06:46] crimsun: that's for Gnome [06:46] Hmm [06:47] fatejudger: it's very much not GNOME-centric [06:47] What kinda P2P clients are there for Linux that work? mldonkey sucks big-time, and apparently, it's also quite well blacklisted all over. [06:47] crimsun: look at step 6 [06:47] fatejudger: and look at step 3 [06:47] crimsun: I see that [06:47] crimsun: now look at step 6 [06:47] got it! thanks! [06:47] crimsun: and tell me the KDE equivalent [06:47] I'm talking the overnet, gnutella2, etc., [06:48] crimsun: because I know that gnome-window-decorator sure as hell isn't for KDE [06:48] grr [06:48] my arts engine keeps crashing [06:48] but it comes right back up [06:48] fatejudger: take a wild guess from http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=compiz-kde&version=dapper&arch=i386 [06:48] fatejudger: nope, you're correct. I just created a new user and it's using /var/run/cups/cups.sock [06:49] crimsun: there's nothing in there [06:49] fatejudger: choose another mirror [06:50] (hint: -rwxr-xr-x root/root 18320 2006-02-19 05:59:33 ./usr/bin/kde-window-decorator) [06:50] crimsun: you still didn't answer my question about step 6 [06:50] I just did. [06:50] crimsun: so just "kde-window-decorator"? [06:50] crimsun: and I still use gedit? [06:50] fatejudger: instead of gnome-window-decorator [06:51] how do I un rar things [06:51] ark doesn't work [06:51] Mrono: you probably want unrar-nonfree in multiverse [06:51] !info unrar-nonfree [06:51] compiz-kde uses QT 4? [06:51] unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB [06:51] "the utility unrar is not in your PATH" [06:52] fatejudger: yes [06:52] crimsun: weird [06:52] crimsun: ok, I'm gonna log out of KDE [06:52] crimsun: should I print out step 6? [06:52] if it helps you, sure [06:53] crimsun:I installed unrar-free [06:53] crimsun: can you print out a highlighted selection in Konq? [06:53] how do I get the nonfree one [06:53] Mrono: multiverse [06:53] Mrono: enable multiverse and install 'unrar-nonfree' [06:53] they are enabled but i'm not seeing it [06:54] fatejudger: I don't use Konqueror [06:54] E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate [06:54] does anyone here know how to print a highlighted selection of text in Konqueror? [06:54] !tell Mrono about repos [06:55] I responded to one of the already existing cups bugs on this subject for kde. [06:56] And I'll ask Jonathan about it next time I see him online. [06:56] LeeJunFan: thanks [06:57] fatejudger: you actually printed didn't you? I can't test right now :( [06:57] LeeJunFan: yeah, it works [06:57] LeeJunFan: I think they fixed the CUPS margin problem too === howard [n=howard@S010600032f09bbb2.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:57] fatejudger: nice. [06:58] ok so, before I restart === howard [n=howard@S010600032f09bbb2.vs.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:58] does anyone know how to mount smb drives using the fstab? [06:58] it tries mounting them before samba is loaded [06:58] and doesn't work [06:58] I didn't know whether there was a way around that [06:59] I added those repositories to the sources.list and it just gives me errors galore [06:59] fatejudger: I think the problem is probably more nmbd not being loaded than samba, what if you put the names of the systems as they appear in your fstab in /etc/hosts, or use IP#'s? === howard [n=howard@S010600032f09bbb2.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:00] LeeJunFan: I am using IPs [07:00] Mrono: "those repositories"? What're the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list? Use pastebin. [07:00] LeeJunFan: it still says, "failed" [07:00] fatejudger: hrm, I dunno then. Never done samba shares that way. [07:00] LeeJunFan: amarok won't read them unless they're mounted [07:00] LeeJunFan: and xine is crippled too [07:01] LeeJunFan: it's very disappointing, because it's a pain in the ass to mount them [07:01] LeeJunFan: especially since I have to turn off my computer every night [07:01] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9293 [07:01] ok well, brb [07:01] fatejudger: that might be the way kde sends the URL's because it tries to access them as smb:/whatever, try editing the menu entry for xine or amarok and change the to %F. [07:01] gonna try to install Xgl [07:02] mount(8) doesn't do anything with smbfs via /etc/fstab [07:03] crimsun: I don't have a ./gnomerc [07:03] */,gnomerc [07:03] crimsun: that's gnome specific [07:03] fatejudger: then ignore it [07:03] crimsun: what is the KDE counterpart? [07:03] my Xgl runs fine if i run like "Xgl" but running a term and loading up compiz and gnome-window-dekorator or kde-win*-deco* doesnt work [07:03] crimsun: how can I ignore it? [07:03] crimsun: I'll have to manually start compiz every time I log in [07:03] and if i run using kdm it still starts up Xorg server [07:03] not xgl [07:03] fatejudger: ask for the KDE equivalent in here [07:04] crimsun: cmon, you know what it is [07:04] e.g., ~/.kde/Autostart [07:04] crimsun: that's after KDE starts though [07:05] fatejudger: about what are you unclear? [07:05] crimsun: whether your suggestion to use Autostart will work [07:06] fatejudger: your question seems to be concerned with how to avoid manually starting compiz each time you log in [07:06] crimsun: exactly [07:06] so what's unclear? [07:06] crimsun: so how would I do avoid having to do that? [07:07] crimsun: you said using KDE's Autostart [07:07] crimsun: but don't you have to run compiz before you start KDE? [07:07] fatejudger: no [07:07] crimsun: ok, thank you for clearing that up then [07:07] brb, restarting KDE === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] crimsun: I just got an error [07:10] crimsun: it can't detect my display [07:11] crimsun: I think I read something about this, it's an fglrx problem [07:11] crimsun: do you know anything about it? [07:11] fatejudger: [17:09] <-- crimsun has left this server ("'night"). [07:12] damnit! [07:12] now how am I supposed to fix this? [07:12] I'm stuck in stupid bitchx [07:13] can anyone help me? [07:13] I don't think I can join another channel without leaving this one... [07:14] you should be able to - you certainly can with irssi [07:14] well then I won't know how to get back === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] isn't there anyone in here that can help me? [07:15] LeeJunFan: do you know anything about Xgl in KDE? === Piete [n=abri@203.229.206.22] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] fatejudger: nope. [07:15] damnit [07:15] whts happening fatejudger? [07:15] you guys need to get yakuake [07:15] compiz can't open my display [07:16] Mrono: yes, we all realize how cool it is [07:16] ok good [07:16] i didn't talk about it earlier did I? [07:16] I doubt it [07:16] so [07:16] ok good [07:16] back to my "can't open display" problem [07:16] I have a bad memory [07:16] whats up [07:16] fatejudger: open a terminl in X and "echo $DISPLAY" whts the output? === hatake_kakashi [n=meh@60-241-0-178.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] kunjan: nothing [07:17] did u open a xterm? [07:17] I'm in the terminal right now [07:17] I can't get into KDE [07:17] that's my problem [07:17] I'm in bitchx [07:17] mrono: Oooh.. that's a nice app :) Thanks telling.. [07:17] start X in a failsafe mode === richard2 [n=richard2@200.6.214.122] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] heh [07:18] I have an idea, brb [07:18] ok [07:18] opengl and 3d acceleartion failed on my computer === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:19] well that didn't work out too well [07:19] How I make a newtwork for 2 computers? [07:19] hmm [07:19] wht did u try [07:19] I tried starting KDE [07:19] lol [07:19] fatejudger: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart [07:19] it just hangs [07:19] whts the command line u use to start compiz? [07:20] the one in the ubuntu wiki [07:20] do u see kde splash? [07:20] wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto [07:20] no, it hangs [07:20] try adding --display :0 [07:20] or :1 [07:20] see if that helps [07:20] I did [07:21] I tried both [07:21] I'm wondering whether I should just restart my computer [07:21] let me try that [07:21] can u see kde splash === orugo [n=orugo@200-122-16-53.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [07:22] hey all [07:22] should someone tell him that he isnt running windows? [07:22] lol [07:22] what [07:22] why the restart [07:23] hey [07:23] is there a new beta ofkubuntu? === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:23] flight 4 === _aaron [n=aaron@71-32-86-177.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:23] nothing [07:23] so did that work [07:23] nope [07:23] no [07:23] ok lets see if ur actually running Xgl or Xorg [07:24] <_aaron> my sshd ain't working... it only says "fail" [07:24] flight 4 has a live cd right [07:24] orugo: yes [07:24] orugo: i think so [07:24] does it have a .. normal cd? [07:24] <_aaron> and I need to get flash working ... [07:24] haha [07:24] fatejudger can u check ur ps output and see wht server ur running? [07:24] um [07:24] both [07:24] I'm running both [07:24] anyone installed ati radon drivers [07:25] u cant be running both [07:25] the ati drivers [07:25] wait a second [07:25] ok, it says that it's running Xorg at runlevel 7 [07:25] and it's running Xgl at runlevel ? [07:25] <_aaron> I can't find the ssh log in /var/log [07:25] does anybody try flight 4? [07:25] so [07:25] it's trying to use Xorg to run KDE atm [07:25] i have no clue! [07:26] runlevel 7? [07:26] kunjan: that wasn't a question [07:26] kunjan: it is running at runlevel ? [07:26] yeah i got that [07:26] afaik there is no runlevel 7 [07:26] tty7 [07:26] yeah [07:26] whatever it is [07:26] so [07:26] VT 7 [07:26] virtual terminal 7 [07:26] how do I go about changing that then? [07:27] thats fine u dont need to change it [07:27] I need to stop Xorg right? [07:27] yeah [07:27] it can't be trying to start KDe [07:27] do this [07:27] wait [07:27] wait [07:28] yes, I did symlink it too [07:28] u have ati or nvidia? [07:28] if that's what you're thinking [07:28] ati [07:28] I'm using fglrx [07:29] someone know how to make a network in kubuntu for 2 computer? [07:29] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=739758 [07:29] richard2: you mean filesharing? [07:29] kunjan: I can't read that [07:29] see that link fatejudger [07:29] why not? [07:29] kunjan: I'm in the terminal [07:30] kunjan: bitchx [07:30] apt-get install lynx [07:30] how will I remember that link? [07:30] thats text mode web brower [07:30] I know what it is [07:30] but the link is gone already [07:30] write it down [07:30] and I can't scroll up [07:30] wait [07:31] open another terminal [07:31] and [07:31] /usr/bin/Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo [07:31] lol [07:31] tell me does it start xgl? === fatejudger wishes terminal had copy and paste [07:31] fatejudger u know how to use wget? [07:32] and do u have it installed? [07:32] nvermind its easier to type [07:32] I just tried it [07:33] it isn't working because kdm is already running [07:33] hey [07:33] and I can't stop KDM [07:33] does anybody try flight? [07:33] it is good? [07:33] does it work? [07:33] I use flight 4, does it look like it's working to you? [07:33] haha [07:33] oh [07:33] sorry [07:33] lol, no seriously [07:34] it's good [07:34] I just screwed it up [07:34] haha [07:34] just don't install Xgl [07:34] hahaha [07:34] and you'll be fine [07:34] ok [07:34] ill download the live cd [07:34] tks [07:34] the live cd isn't that good [07:34] better off trying the regular install [07:34] yes but.. [07:34] is there a intall cd? [07:34] i just saw the live cd [07:34] (my english sucks) [07:35] yeah [07:35] there is a live cd [07:35] ok, I'm going to have to restart into the recovery mode [07:35] fatejudeger: to stop kdm type this /etc/ [07:35] fatejudeger: to stop kdm type this /etc/init.d/kdm stop [07:35] ok... [07:35] then open another terminal and execute this [07:35] Xgl :1 -ac -nolisten tcp -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer & DISPLAY=:1 xterm [07:35] not working [07:35] it's locked up [07:35] that cant lock up! [07:36] let me restart into recovery mode [07:36] i got to go [07:36] wait a sec [07:36] i havent figureed out xgl myself [07:36] ok sure [07:36] it'll only take a minute [07:36] then you can copy and paste it in here [07:36] okk! [07:36] lol, thanks [07:36] I really appriciate it [07:36] brb, restart [07:36] no prob [07:39] sigh [07:39] this would be so much easier if I had a linux guru beside me [07:39] wht is it mrono? === root_____ [n=root@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === root_____ is now known as fatejudger [07:40] ha there [07:40] trying to install my ati radon 9000 [07:40] lol [07:40] sorry about that [07:40] lol [07:40] I tried the /etc/init.d/kdm stop thing one more time before I gave up [07:40] Xgl :1 -ac -nolisten tcp -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer & DISPLAY=:1 xterm [07:40] wht did it do? [07:40] I wasn't sure that Xorg would be loaded in recovery mode [07:40] mrono: i have no clue abt ati h/w [07:40] fatejudger: yes filesharing [07:40] yep [07:40] i have nvidia [07:41] ok, recovery mode lets me have only 1 terminal open [07:41] i think u should have some repos for it === TheZanke [n=TheZanke@12.205.82.30] has joined #kubuntu [07:41] yeah [07:41] so kunjan, I'm gonna have to write that down then get back in here [07:41] hey [07:41] u can telinit 3 [07:41] which is textmode for ubuntu [07:42] that ought to give u multiple terminals [07:42] i think ;) [07:42] ok [07:42] I'll still have to exit bitch to do that [07:42] *bitchx [07:42] yeah [07:42] ok so, brb again [07:42] i'm configuring the xorg server as told to in the ati walkthrough [07:42] wht link is it [07:42] ? [07:42] what modules do I select to autoload? [07:42] let me take a look at it [07:42] !ati [07:42] it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589 [07:43] fglrx is all u need i think [07:43] did u add fglrx to /etc/modules? === fatejudger [n=root@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:44] ok, that was really unhelpful [07:44] lol [07:44] get this [07:44] it starts up x [07:44] hmm [07:44] and then gives me this tiny ass little terminal [07:44] yeah [07:44] so I've been downgraded [07:44] r u in that terminal? [07:44] yeah [07:44] ok [07:44] u have kde right? [07:44] yeah [07:44] ok do this === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu [07:45] exit that terminal, type "kwin & ; konsole &" [07:45] shit [07:45] ? [07:45] dont exit the terminal [07:45] lol [07:45] exit bitchx [07:45] here [07:45] ok [07:45] and type that [07:45] i'll give you some options [07:45] yeah mrono? [07:45] !pastebin [07:45] pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :) [07:46] yep [07:46] 3.5 [07:46] !pastebin [07:46] kunjan: should I exit and do that command? [07:46] kunjar: or do you have something else to add? [07:46] sorry about what i'm about to do [07:46] which one [07:46] i use the drop down one [07:46] i'm still in the xorg config === chavo [n=chavo@fl-atlnfl-u3-c4b-189.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:46] did u try this mrono? As of november 2005, ATI provides usable, properly packaged drivers which can be used on Ubuntu. They can even be installed easily! [07:46] here man [07:46] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9296 [07:46] which ones do I select [07:47] kunjan: I guess I'll try that command then... [07:47] brb [07:47] someone know how to filesharing? [07:47] richard2: install NFS === robotgeek [i=venkat@digital.celebris.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:47] !ntfs [07:47] rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions === chavo [n=chavo@fl-atlnfl-u3-c4b-189.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:49] mrono not sure... do u have this command on ur system? aticonfig --initial [07:49] not sure [07:49] that should set up ur xorg.conf automagically [07:49] let me check [07:49] richard2 look at samba docs === fatejudger [n=root@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:49] ok, so now my windows are KDEized [07:49] yeah [07:49] now === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] and it started an instance of Konsole === gamma is now known as naptimegamma [07:50] now check if ur running xorg or xgl [07:50] mrono@weridkid:~/Desktop$ sudo aticonfig --initial [07:50] Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf [07:50] Found fglrx primary device section [07:50] mrono@weridkid:~/Desktop$ [07:51] hmm thts it? [07:51] Xgl is in tty1 [07:51] damnit [07:51] dyeah [07:51] now [07:51] it's freezing [07:51] wht? [07:51] freezing wht? [07:51] tty1 Grabbing the mouse failed with "GrabInvalidTime" === chavo [n=chavo@fl-atlnfl-u3-c4b-189.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:52] weird [07:52] ok so [07:52] Xgl is in tty1 [07:52] Xorg is in tty2 [07:52] its screwed man [07:52] lol [07:52] lol [07:52] shouldn't I just manually stop Xorg? [07:53] i gave up on installing xgl dont have time to mess with it [07:53] i m gonna sleep now man [07:53] good luck! [07:53] alright, thanks [07:53] fatejudger nsf-common? [07:53] later! [07:53] richard2: I think so [07:53] damn, I'm screwed [07:54] now what kunjan [07:54] ok === sauli [n=sauli@a88-113-247-61.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu === firephoto [n=tom@71.115.213.49] has joined #kubuntu [08:05] jfyi, i rebooted the kubuntu dapper box just now, meant to go into gentoo at the grub prompt but missed it by a moment, hit esc after that, maybe another key(s), got a root@kubuntu prompt, whoami says root [08:10] brb rebooting === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === _fitz [n=fitz@host130-84.pool82105.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.100.50] has joined #kubuntu === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mez_ [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu === Mez_ [n=mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === DevGet [n=gustav@h187n2fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === chriswk [n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [08:34] Someone know How make a file sharing? === tristanmike [n=tristanm@blk-224-251-101.eastlink.ca] has joined #kubuntu === ludwig [n=ludwig@cpe-24-174-73-48.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === ludwig [n=ludwig@cpe-24-174-73-48.houston.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ludwig [n=ludwig@cpe-24-174-73-48.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Lacerta [n=Silakka@dsl-imtgw1-ffffc000-124.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === _ludwig [n=ludwig@cpe-24-174-73-48.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu === _fitz [n=fitz@host130-84.pool82105.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === faked_ [n=faked@85-124-41-79.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === daenz [n=daenz@ip-62-235-32-223.dial.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ [n=snake@adsl-65-43-232-224.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === bz0b [n=bz0b@unaffiliated/bz0b] has joined #kubuntu [09:03] hi [09:03] !seen brenden_ [09:03] darn [09:03] Mrono: i haven't seen 'brenden_' === bz0b [n=bz0b@unaffiliated/bz0b] has joined #kubuntu [09:05] hmm === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #kubuntu [09:05] I need some help recompiling my kernal to support my wifi [09:06] he said he was going to be here today === DevGet [n=gustav@h187n2fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] well he said he hoped he was going to be here [09:06] o-well === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D1216.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [n=nicolas@ron34-1-82-225-191-130.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Eiscreme [i=foobar@85.237.25.72] has joined #kubuntu [09:21] hi [09:21] is kubuntu Debian unstable? === firephoto [n=tom@71.115.213.49] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:23] Eiscreme: Ummm.. What? [09:23] Eiscreme: No, Kubuntu is Kubuntu. [09:24] Psi-Jack: but it is based on Debian? [09:24] Psi-Jack: may I tell you why I ask that? [09:24] It is not Debian. It's based on Debian, but is not Debian. [09:25] Psi-Jack: knoppix / kanotix and mepis are also Distributions [09:25] they all are based on debian but now they are their own distros [09:25] well, the problem was: [09:25] when I wanted to update software or install new software, I always had to say a prayer if it works or not [09:26] because sometimes something broke [09:26] the worst thing was libc6 that broke [09:26] Okay? [09:26] libc6 disturbed near my whole PC just because of ONE program I wanted to install [09:26] well [09:26] the reason why I tell you this story: [09:26] can something like this happen with kubuntu? [09:27] not that I know of [09:27] this is pretty stable [09:27] It could. [09:27] well [09:27] nigth kiddies [09:27] But it's doubtful. [09:28] hum [09:28] one last question: [09:28] what makes kubuntu good? (versus debian sarge) [09:28] maybe you think kubuntu is better, otherwise you would not use it [09:28] Eiscreme: It's updated every 6 months, and not once every 2-3 years. [09:29] so what makes kubuntu better than debian? [09:29] hum [09:29] Psi-Jack: but when debian is only updates every 2-3 years, the packages are up2date ? [09:29] or am I wrong? [09:31] Debian Sarge still only has KDE 3.2.something, while Kubuntu has KDE 3.5.1 available to it, released initially with 3.4.2 === shogouki [n=nicolas@ron34-1-82-225-191-130.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu [] === pulver [n=awwww@c-621e70d5.019-10-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === Snake__ [n=snake@adsl-65-43-232-224.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:39] hi! installed kde (3.4) from ubuntu install.. how do you get kde to automount a cd? [09:40] First of all, upgrade to kde 3.5.1. Instructions at kubuntu.org [09:40] Psi-Jack: ok thanks will do.. after cleared som hdd space [09:41] Second, anything in /etc/fstab for your CDROM drive(s) should be set to mount in /media/* instead of /mnt (Kubuntu's installer should have done that automatically). [09:43] does Kubuntu give me X by default or do I have to configure things? [09:43] ok now it says /media/cdrom0 === Snake__ is now known as Snake|Sleep === chriswk [n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [09:46] Eiscreme: Yes. [09:46] Kubuntu comes with X and KDE, preinstalled. That's what the K in Kubuntu means. Ubuntu, the base distribution, comes with Gnome preinstalled. [09:46] Or you can opt to do a server install, and get very minimal, up front. === faked_ [n=faked@83-65-234-229.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:47] Psi-Jack: thats cool [09:47] thank you very much! === hatake_kakashi [n=meh@60-241-0-178.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #kubuntu [09:55] I'm on kubuntu 5.10 now, if I want to start using the testing release (not unstable) what changes to i need to make to my apt sources to switch over? [09:55] how can i install all the real/quicktime/microsoft codecs for kde? [09:56] !tell stoned about w32codecs [09:56] i have that package installed already [09:56] but only mplayer will play wmv files etc. [09:56] vlc is also good [09:56] i'm not sure about quicktime, but there is a linux version of realplayer [09:56] konqeuror doesn't even show previes for anything except those codecs. anything like real/ms/qt won't have previes either [09:56] and i have properly configures [09:57] everything is selected in preives and hugest possible file size === changeme [n=changeme@209.74.182.130.brick.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:59] stoned: Mind you, they're not for KDE specifically. [09:59] sorry stoned i don't know anything about konqueror plugins === roconnor [n=roconnor@i129246.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] stoned: To be frank, there's no "good" media plugins for Mozilla/Konqueror that are really "good" [10:02] is there a way to call Xorg functions by using KDE's keyboard mapping system? === hatake_kakashi [n=meh@60-241-0-178.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [10:02] I don't really want to have to use xmodmap [10:03] fatejudger: KDE already uses Xkb. [10:03] ? === beka [n=beka@81.189.102.241] has joined #kubuntu [10:03] They didn't reinvent the wheel. They just utiilized what Xorg already provided., [10:03] I need it to call Xorg functions like XF86AudioLowerVolume === joel [n=joel@h10n7c1o1044.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:03] can the KDE keyboard mapping thing do that? [10:03] I tried it, but I couldn't get it to work [10:04] fatejudger: So setup the keyboard mapping in KDE's Control Center, and set it to do it, where you want. kmix for example, will use XF86AudioVolumeUp, or whatever. [10:04] ? [10:04] If you have KDE 3.5.1 of course. [10:04] I do [10:04] I tried putting in the function name [10:04] but it wouldn't work [10:04] it just would do a Konq search for the function name [10:04] it was weird [10:04] Umm. [10:05] What exactly are you doing? [10:05] And what are you TRYING to do? [10:05] System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility [10:05] -> Input Actions [10:05] I'm trying to set some keys to raise, lower, and mute the volume [10:05] win + "+" [10:05] win + "-" [10:06] win + "*" = mute [10:06] fatejudger: Do you have a multimedia keyboard? [10:06] no [10:06] lol [10:06] I'm trying to cheat [10:06] see? [10:06] I see. [10:06] fatejudger: : Then, do this. Open up kmix [10:06] got it [10:06] ohhhh [10:06] I see what you're going to do [10:06] Setitngs, Global Shortcuts [10:06] yeah [10:06] but then the thing is [10:06] you don't get that cool dialogue [10:06] Yes, yes, you do. [10:06] really? [10:07] Umm, Yeah.. kmix 3.5.1 has a little popup dialog that tells you what's going on. [10:07] I rather... Big, very well noticable one,. heh [10:08] I don't see it [10:08] are you using Dapper? [10:08] Works on mine. No I'm not. [10:08] ah, that might be why [10:08] volume lower doesn't work either [10:08] Shouldn't be. [10:09] Because, 3.5.1 is ported BACk from Dapper. [10:09] Did you set the shortcuts? [10:09] yeah [10:09] but [10:09] I have Xorg 7.0 [10:09] so it might be different [10:09] So? [10:09] it calls functions from Xorg [10:09] Xorg7 still uses xkb [10:10] well it isn't showing the cool volume thingy [10:10] so apparently something is going on [10:10] which is causing it not to show it === micand [n=micand@S01060050da1ff72c.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:10] Something else could already have those shortcuts bound. [10:10] no [10:10] the actual process of lowering and raising the volume works [10:10] but [10:11] the dialogue thing [10:11] it doesn't show up [10:11] Try restarting kmix? [10:11] nothing [10:12] Purhaps your KDE configuration is messed up. Try it with a different user. [10:12] different/new user, that is. [10:12] Hello ... I'm on a brand new install of Kubuntu on a ATI X1900 video card, and I can't get X working. The tail of my Xorg.0.log is here: http://pastebin.com/571592. Thanks in advance! === jmstylr [n=james@spc1-pool3-5-0-cust76.cosh.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:13] wtf, I just installed Dapper 3 days ago [10:13] it can't be messed up already [10:13] it must be the fact that I have Xorg 7 [10:13] there's no other explination [10:14] Try it. [10:14] hi, i just upgraded kde to 3.5.1, and now kdm doesn't start automatically on boot. i can start it manually and it runs fine. anybody know what's going on? [10:14] a new user? [10:14] Yes. [10:14] I'll just delete my KDE config files [10:14] Or that. [10:14] or maybe not [10:14] don't want to erase all of my settings [10:15] uhm tried the mirrors listed at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php and get a gpg error when trying to update :( any ideas? === seaLne [n=seaLne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:15] fatejudger: Or you could just mv .kde .kde-backup [10:16] While not logged in, of course. [10:16] Into KDE that is. :) [10:16] probably easier to create a new user [10:16] nevermind got it (no sleep) === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-14-185.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:17] brb [10:18] You know. [10:18] You can load another session without logging out, right? :) [10:21] well that sucked [10:21] oh? [10:22] yeah, I didn't have the permissions set right or something === seaLne [n=seaLne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:22] I wish they would default it to the permission that you need to run your sound system, at the very least [10:22] Did you create a new user, and not add them to the audio group? :) [10:22] I thought I selected all the ones that my account had [10:22] but apparently not [10:23] adm, admin, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video [10:23] Hmm, looks sane. [10:23] no, that was for my own reference [10:23] I thought I could copy and paste it [10:23] but for some reason it wouldn't let me [10:24] I just bought a gig of RAM a couple of days ago [10:24] it's the best purchase I've made in awhile [10:24] Oh, I bet. [10:24] Kubuntu runs amazing [10:25] well, I did buy this awesome freaking 24 inch widescreen dell monitor [10:25] Widescreen? Nice. :) [10:25] yeah, that was a treat [10:25] Only 24" though? Not so nice. [10:25] lol [10:25] wtf? [10:25] that's the second biggest monitor they make [10:25] aside from the 30 inch one [10:25] which requires two DVI inputs [10:26] Hehehe [10:26] I was kidding. :p [10:26] and costs 2,100 bucks [10:26] a little out of my price range... [10:26] 920 already hurt enough [10:26] anyway, brb, switching users [10:26] I've got 3 26" widescreens. :) === noteventime [n=tilo@h192n5c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:28] 'ello === _tim [n=tim@58.164.47.212] has joined #kubuntu [10:28] it's amazing how little RAM Kubuntu uses vs Windows [10:28] anyway [10:28] didn't show the audio thing [10:28] Mine uses a lot less :S [10:29] then again. I'm not running any desktop widgets right now [10:29] so I have to give it that [10:29] and Linux uses up a bit of RAM doing that pre-emptive tasking thing [10:29] I forget what it's called [10:29] prelinking? [10:30] what kde pkgs should one upgrade from 3.4 to 3.5? dont want to break stuff and looks like can't upgrade the kde meta pkg... [10:31] You can't, it worked for me, i think installing only some KDE packages would break it... [10:31] Does someone know how to change the background image that appears between KDM-login and the splashscreen [10:32] pulver: Why can't you upgrade by the kde meta package? [10:32] Psi-Jack: should I try just doing xmodmap manually? === Yokalosh [n=andrew@cpc3-cbly2-0-0-cust594.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Yokalosh [n=andrew@cpc3-cbly2-0-0-cust594.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has left #kubuntu [] [10:32] fatejudger: xmodmap is old, and deprecated in favor of xkb. [10:33] Psi-Jack: what is xkb? === faked [n=faked@83-65-232-70.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [10:33] It's part of X. heh. Been part of Xorg for a long time. [10:33] really? [10:33] Uhh yeah. [10:33] well then that must be what KMix uses [10:33] so [10:33] I guess I'm out of options then [10:33] No, that's what KDE uses. [10:33] ok [10:33] which would mean that KMix uses it [10:34] so set the Global Shortcuts [10:34] *to === tid-wave [n=tid-wave@82.76.187.13] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] <_tim> hi all [10:34] Psi-Jack: hehe guess it works after all.. just didnt see the option in synaptic.. so went cli [10:35] fatejudger: Not sure, exactly. I think for event handling, KDE uses it's own interfaces. It uses xkb for keyboard layouts. [10:35] what should I try doing then? [10:35] 'ello [10:35] it works on my Breezy laptop [10:35] with xmodmap [10:35] I haven't tried it with the kmix global shortcuts [10:36] Heh. Wow.. You must be old school-ish, to not keep up with some things. ;) [10:36] lol, no [10:36] the laptop volume keys just aren't recognized by KDE [10:36] I had to manually stick them in there [10:37] Ahhh. === jmstylr [n=james@spc1-pool3-5-0-cust76.cosh.broadband.ntl.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:38] Psi-Jack: it doesn't work on my laptop [10:39] Psi-Jack: can't I just call that function? [10:39] Psi-Jack: XF86AudioRaiseVolume [10:39] ? [10:39] I just want to bind that set of keys to that function === Dreamstar [n=cristian@213-140-19-124.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:40] Hmm, That you could do. That, still requires the use of xmodmap. ;) [10:40] lol [10:40] yeah [10:40] I'd rather do it the hard way and get the cool volume notifier [10:40] than have nothing at all [10:40] Which, I'm not saying you can't do. :) [10:40] hello all [10:40] 'ello [10:40] Psi-Jack: I don't understand why it's working for you though === Psi-Jack suddenly starts dreaming of Dreamstar . [10:41] fatejudger: Because I'm actually USING XF86AudioRaise/LowerVolume from the use of my xkb-mapped multimedia Logitech Coordless Freedom keyboard. [10:41] i have a prob trying to compile Superkaramba 0.37 coz it reports that cpp is not correctly installed, but i checked with synaptic and i have it, how is it possible?!? [10:41] Psi-Jack: ? === noteventime [n=tilo@h192n5c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:42] Mayhaps, That dialog only works, when those XF86Audio* signals are caught. [10:42] Psi-Jack: how did you map it? [10:42] fatejudger: I used KControl. [10:42] Well, that didn't work att all :( [10:42] Psi-Jack: where in Kcontrol? [10:42] fatejudger: Selected my keyboard layout. [10:42] :/ Hmmm... Anyone knows how to change the background image that is shown after login and before splash? [10:43] anybody helping me?:) [10:43] Sure, whats the problem? [10:43] i have a prob trying to compile Superkaramba 0.37 coz it reports that cpp is not correctly installed, but i checked with synaptic and i have it, how is it possible?!? [10:43] fatejudger: I used the Regional & Accessability -> Keyboard Layout. [10:43] You probably don't have everything you need to compile [10:44] There is a package called build-essential [10:44] Install that [10:44] ok i try [10:44] fatejudger: And, so the volume knob on my keyboard, sends XF86AudioRaiseVolume and XF86AudioLowerVolume [10:44] Psi-Jack: did you call the functions manually? [10:44] fatejudger: No. [10:44] Dreamstart: I think that is what you need [10:44] Psi-Jack: then how did you set it up? [10:44] fatejudger: There's an xkb map for my keyboard. [10:45] fatejudger: In other words. I didn't have to do anything overly complicated, since I /have/ a multimedia keyboard. ;) [10:45] Psi-Jack: can you look at the individual keys? [10:45] Psi-Jack: see what it calls to acheieve the results? [10:45] fatejudger: Not there, no. [10:46] Psi-Jack: well that's a bunch of crap [10:46] noteventime: thx i'm trying this, i think the prob is that it tries to find cpp in a dir while it is in another one [10:46] We can take a look if you want? [10:46] sudo locate -u [10:46] first [10:47] noteventime: it worked now!!! :D it asks me to install KDE headers but the prob with cpp is gone, thx very much :))) [10:47] np [10:48] Have fun :) === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu [10:48] 'ello [10:49] noteventime: eheh with linux i always have fun (5 days without using windows till now and counting ^^) [10:49] Nice :) [10:50] i'm writing php scripts in a pure apache/php/mysql enviroment, what to ask more?!? :D [10:50] Dreamstar: gcc and g++ are installed into directories that are in the path, yes like the one found in windows, thats why I didn't think it was in another directory [10:50] :) [10:50] Dreamstar: Manually set up or xampp? [10:50] manually ;) [10:50] nice [10:50] that's the fun :D [10:51] Have you tried AJAX? [10:51] nope, what is it? [10:51] It's like a javascript thingy which makes you able to call a php script without reloading the site [10:52] wow! === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu [10:52] You can make "realtime" websites :) [10:53] i was even looking for something to make my php redistribuitable, like compiling my scripts in "exe" file so that they could be usable even without a call on the net, do u think is possible? [10:53] Yes [10:53] That is possible, but not as an exe [10:54] mmm tell me more [10:54] You can use the php binary [10:54] Some PHP IDEs use that for previewing [10:55] you can run like: php thepage.php <---- Not the real command === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu [10:55] Its pretty easy if you know basic javascript. I've almost never used Javascript, not in a few years anyway, and I figured out how to use it in less then an hour. [10:55] ^- ajax that is [10:56] mmmm in this way is possible to have "standalone" php programs? [10:56] Yes [10:56] even on a windoze system? [10:56] I think it generates a html file [10:56] yes === _jeroen [n=jeroen@ip3e83670c.speed.planet.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:57] ok so i'll look for the php binaries right? === tim_ [n=tim@58.164.47.212] has joined #kubuntu [10:57] so you could make a script that runt the file through php and open the generated html [10:57] Dreamstar: yep [10:57] thx :) [10:57] np [10:58] Dreamstar: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-ajaxintro1.html this is a lot more fun though ;) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu [10:59] looking at it right now :) thx^^ === bimberi [n=dave@ppp-41-103.grapevine.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === pulver [n=awwww@c-621e70d5.019-10-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [10:59] hehe [11:01] what do you type to upgrade kde? sudo apt-get upgrade kde says 250 not upgraded.... [11:02] try dist-upgrade [11:03] btw be sure that u've set the repositories with the new version [11:03] ah btw anyone here a part me using dapper drake? [11:03] pulver: Du r svensk va? [11:04] Yes, i do [11:04] which are ur impressions on it noteventime? [11:04] It's way better than breezy :) === paolo [i=darkrad@xd-85-20-217-180.mi2.albacom.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:04] Lots of stuff fixed :) === paolo is now known as kiil_Bill [11:05] LOL :) and btw even if it's a development version i think it's stable at least and even more than breezy! [11:05] I've had nearly no problems at all [11:05] wouldnt that upgrade evrything? yea the 3.5 versions are available... (japp svensk :) [11:06] pulver: Bredbandsbolaget avsljade dig :D, distupgrade upgrades everything, yes [11:07] But why wouldn't you want to upgrade everything? [11:07] me too! never had probs! it works so smoothly [11:07] I've had a few dependency errors... [11:08] Do you have the new KOffice beta too? [11:08] pulver last KDE version is 3.5.1, it has been made avaible even for breezy users [11:08] noteventime: nope, i'm openoffice addicted ^^ [11:08] Hehe, I like openoffice but i wan't to use KDE apps as much as possible, I love the KDE integration === _ole [n=ole@194.19.98.159] has joined #kubuntu [11:09] Koffice support the odt document as openoffice do? [11:09] I suppose so :) I havn't been able to install it :P === _ole is now known as Molea === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] depends on something called kexi :( [11:10] nver heard of it :S === citr0n [n=citr0n@0x535ba984.aaanxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] ah noteventime did u notice that even in dapper when u click on th K menu it still shows 5.10 ? :D [11:11] hehe frstod det.. yeah maybe im using the wrong repos then pkgs are like 3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1/2/3 === DevGet [n=gustav@h187n2fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:11] how can I get Kmail to open links in FireFox and not Konqueror? [11:11] pulver, yes there are newer ones :) === Irvine [n=nick@219.95.0.80] has joined #kubuntu [11:12] Molea: In the user settings there is a tab called prefered applications [11:12] how to install amarok themes? [11:12] in amaroK settings dialog [11:12] pulver: just a min i will get the repo for you === douglas_ [n=douglas@c-69-139-66-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === m0ns00n [n=m0ns00n@213.167.96.196] has joined #kubuntu [11:13] pulver: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main [11:13] Dreamstar: Lol, no i hadn't noticed that [11:14] Dreamstar: It shows dapper drake at boot and shutdown though [11:14] yep samehere! but in the K menu it says Kubuntu 5.10 ^^ [11:15] :) Man, thats irritating :P [11:15] noteventime: danke maybe that will do it [11:15] noteventime: to develop using AJAX u use some kind of frameworks, of IDEs? [11:15] Dreamstar: You dont need too [11:16] It's an IBM tutorial so they make some adverticing about websphere :P === nxv_ [n=matrix@dslb-084-056-106-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] how to use baghira? [11:16] ah ok [11:16] anyone [11:16] Install and change in window deco and style [11:17] Whats wrong with my English today :S === _vincent [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:17] Irvine: Just install it and choose it in Window decorations and style [11:18] <_vincent> hi, I have a CD-DVD writer with different speeds for writing CD and DVD, which one should I input in k3b as the maximum speed ? [11:19] noteventime: thanks :-) [11:19] np [11:19] noteventime: how? [11:19] Irvine: Have you installed it? [11:19] yeah [11:19] from apt-get/adept? [11:20] ok [11:20] ? [11:20] It was a question :) === manveru|afk is now known as manveru [11:20] i install it by apt-get [11:20] good [11:20] now start system settings [11:21] _vincent: it depends on how ur writer is burnfree or not [11:21] ok [11:21] now go to appearence [11:21] _vincent: i have an old LG 32x10x40x and i use k3b at 32x with no prob at all === tameritoke [i=tamerito@81.10.53.22] has joined #kubuntu [11:21] ok [11:22] irvine: now go into style [11:22] Found it? [11:22] yes [11:23] In the widget style menu choose baghira [11:23] Hey people... why do you you make the wiki under SSL? [11:23] ok [11:23] now press apply [11:24] but dont close the window [11:24] Everything working till now? [11:24] yes [11:24] Now go to window decoratipon [11:25] in the dropdown menu choose baghira [11:25] Then press apply [11:26] Irvine: Looking good? :) [11:27] yes [11:27] There are some ways to get more appleish look [11:28] There is a guide on the webpage, do you want me to send you the link? [11:28] yeah [11:28] noteventime: thanks for the repo.. still don't get why the pkgs are held back when trying to upgrade them... [11:29] pulver: Thats strange :/ [11:29] irvine: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php [11:29] pulver, lets see.... [11:29] pulver: Would you mind upgrading to dapper drake? [11:30] noteventime: need to download xorg? === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [11:30] irvine: no, you don't have to install enythiing [11:30] irvine: It's all installed already :), skip down to the configuration part === Dreamstar strongly suggesting pulver to upgrade to dapper drake :))) [11:32] hehe.. yea maybe thats the way to go [11:33] where is CAT configuration? [11:33] pulver: It's easy, only change breezy to dapper and remove the repo i gave you [11:34] noteventime: how? [11:34] irvine: configuring the cat, apple baghira, i think :P [11:34] irvine let me see === _tim [n=tim@58.164.47.212] has joined #kubuntu === djib [n=djib@brusa.chu.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu === faked_ [n=faked@83-65-237-91.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [11:35] irvine: start "Step 2: I want a Mac OS X like menubar!" [11:35] All above isn't needed [11:35] <_tim> hi all has anyone had trouble connecting to yahoo via kopete? [11:36] noteventime: ok yea will do in a min.. after freeing some hdd space :) [11:36] pulver: I can send pastebin my sources.list so you can get the new amaroK too [11:36] noteventime: sry do u know how to locate where something has been installed? [11:37] Dreamstar: Either press details in adept [11:37] noteventime: what's that? [11:37] well the package isn't displayed as installed in adept or synaptic :S [11:37] or locate -u (creates a database of all your files) then locate WHAT_EVER_YOU_WANT_TO_FIND [11:37] ok i'll use the second way, thx :D [11:37] pulver: The best music player availible to man kind :) [11:38] Dreamstar: Np === Dreamstar loves AMAROK!!!!! [11:38] lol :D [11:38] The only player availible even remotely as good as amaroK is bansee [11:38] noteventime: lol so it plays music thats great [11:39] noteventime: how to change amarok themes? [11:39] Irvine: Its in the options menu :) [11:39] Irvine: I'll take a closer look [11:40] Irvine: Settings->configure amaroK->appearence->install theme [11:40] !pastebin [11:40] methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] mmmmm---with locate it seems i have not superkaramba but it still start from the K menu! strange... [11:42] noteventime: thanks [11:42] Dreamstar: you did make install right? [11:42] Irvine: np [11:42] yep noteventime [11:42] pulver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9298 <- thats my config, it uses swedish mirrors, mostly [11:42] noteventime: is there any file sharing program for linux? [11:43] watching the screenshots amarok looks pretty cool [11:43] i'll try restarting the system...brb [11:43] noteventime: ok ty [11:43] Irvine: sure, bittorrent dc++ and frostwire [11:43] pulver: frostwire uses the limewire network [11:44] !register [11:44] register is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :)) === arrinmurr [n=arrinmur@MMMCLX.tun.saunalahti.fi] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] Irvine: bittorrent it the best bet for larger things, while frostwire is nice for small things === Hentai^XP [n=justin@202.131.164.87.cmts2.guam.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] how to install frostwire? [11:46] sudo apt-get install frostwire [11:46] Irvine: there is one way to install stuff on Ubuntu === samoura [n=samoura@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [11:46] well one way to install them easily [11:46] ;) [11:46] how? [11:47] apt-get [11:47] once you know that, you don't really have to wonder how to install stuff [11:47] Irvine: as noteventime told you [11:47] Couldn't find package frostwire [11:47] hmm [11:47] hmmm [11:47] yeah, frostwire is not in ubuntu :p [11:47] you mean the repos ro w] e? [11:47] Ahhhh i think its in universe [11:48] what is it btw? [11:48] noteventime [11:48] by the way [11:48] :) hI [11:48] BTW [11:48] noteventime: swedish mirrors for universe,multiverse.. do they have all the apps available? [11:48] samoura: 'ello [11:48] #samoura and help me please ;( [11:48] what zup === Dreamstar [n=cristian@213-140-19-124.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:48] pulver: Yes [11:48] oh nm raphink lol thought you asked "what is btw" [11:48] Hentai^XP: :p [11:48] got a new computer! [11:48] noteventime: nice [11:49] hmmm [11:49] frostwire looks like yet another amule clone [11:49] pulver: I've had problems with one mirror, i changed it to german [11:49] TUPAC shakur is alive :D [11:49] emule === hDp` [n=headup@abo-0-249.modems.semnet.tm.fr] has joined #kubuntu [11:49] frostwire is limewire [11:49] gnutella [11:49] emule slow [11:50] Irvine: download, unpack, run "java -jar FrostWire.jar". but first you need java if you don't have it already - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/frostwire/FrostWire-4.10.9-1-AnyOS.zip?download === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44abcf.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [11:50] noteventime: ok === luite [n=luite@belphegor.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:50] Irvine: if you want frostwire in Ubuntu, you can add it here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates [11:50] raphink: how to add it? === Dreamstar [n=cristian@213-140-19-124.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:51] Irvine: this is a wiki ... you edit the page, you write a line for frostwire the way other lines are written, and you save [11:51] hey [11:51] i download frostwire packages for ubuntu [11:52] mmmm it stills run superkaramba even if it looks i don't have it on my pc O__O [11:52] Is there a bandwidth monitor for Kubuntu ? [11:52] raphink: I think this page need impovement, then we can know package is in which status [11:52] i downloaded frostwire package for ubuntu [11:52] freeflying: you're welcome to improve it :) [11:52] now how to install it? [11:52] Irvine: then you run sudo dpkg -i thenameofyourfile.deb [11:52] is there a utorrent for linux :P i want it [11:52] ? [11:53] or a command in konsole to type and get the size of my transfers for the last few hours ? [11:53] raphink: or merge this into lauchpad , it will be more easier for the guy prepare to package === g8m [n=evil@cp82868-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:54] freeflying: that would be called RFPs then === Telep [i=telep@bot.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu [11:54] freeflying: or ITPs ;) [11:54] freeflying: we'll have to get to that if Ubuntu keeps growing imo though [11:54] so we'll end up with (Closes : Malone #XXXXX) changelogs on REVU soon enough ;) === morphyus [n=morphyus@dsl5400A812.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu [11:57] freeflying: given the huge number of requests on the page, it could be interesting to introduce the need for RFPs at next TB maybe [11:58] pulver: Is it working out for you? [11:59] anybody knows if XEN can create even windoze virtual images? [11:59] raphink: RFP? [12:00] Hobbsee: well taht's what this page is about [12:00] ah === Hobbsee looks for the page that they're reffering to === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.134.119] has joined #kubuntu === voicu [n=voicu@86.106.134.105] has joined #kubuntu [12:01] Hobbsee: well this is a list of candidates for universe [12:02] Hobbsee: in other words : programs users want to have in Ubuntu [12:02] oh, that page, right, yes === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@3e44abcf.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [12:02] Hobbsee: if they were dealt with on LP, it would be logical to use RFPs for these [12:02] true [12:03] i got kde 3.5.1 off the net and when i run make i get errors like "file abc.o not found". how can this be? (configure worked all right) [12:03] Hobbsee: so if there comes to be too many requests that'll be the easiest way [12:03] true [12:03] voicu: why would you compile it ? === _victor [n=victor@85-53-93-65.mad1.adsl.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu [12:03] voicu: Why not get it from the repos? [12:04] noteventime: it is :) downloading/upgrading "the stuff" hopefully it wont break but dont mind its fun anyway.. ty for your help === Marrs [n=marrs@planetmarrs.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === _victor [n=victor@85-53-93-65.mad1.adsl.uni2.es] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:04] pulver: NP, worked without any problems for me [12:04] last time i did that i got it from the repos i messed up the system [12:04] voicu: you're gonna mess up your system much more by compiling it imho [12:04] so i tried to compile it [12:05] voicu: especially if you're already not able to compile it yourself [12:05] if you compile kde on your system and install it, apt-get will lose the track of the existence of these files [12:05] so you won't control anything in kde through apt-get anymore [12:05] you better be really good to do that ;) [12:05] i know... the thing is that it worked yesterday and now it doesn't [12:05] apt-get everything and use deb packages for everything else: ) [12:05] i use checkinstall to keep track of what i install [12:06] and given that kde is very easy to compile and you failed, I'm pretty sure you should use the binary packages === Kayb_NOOB [n=Kayb_NOO@tra78-1-87-88-161-224.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #Kubuntu [12:06] you use checkinstall on KDE ??? [12:06] why not? [12:06] I can't imagine the mess you get with that ;) === Kayb_NOOB [n=Kayb_NOO@tra78-1-87-88-161-224.dsl.club-internet.fr] has left #Kubuntu [] [12:07] especialy that it will create packages with totally differrent names as the ones we have officially [12:07] so you'll just prevent your computer from ever upgrading KDE [12:07] hmm, nobody said that when they suggested it to me === freqmod [n=freqmod@44.80-203-31.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] voicu: who suggested you to use checkinstall on KDE? === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] I mean to compile KDE and use checkinstall [12:08] i don't know, someone on irc [12:08] voicu: whoever did that surely doesn't know much about KDE packages in Debian/Ubuntu systems [12:08] imo you're pretty sure to break everything on your system with that [12:08] when i asked about how to uninstall stuff [12:08] so that to upgrade to next official KDE or Ubuntu [12:08] you'll need to deinstall all your checkinstall KDE stuff manually [12:08] one by one [12:09] and install the official packages again [12:09] ok, great :P [12:09] voicu: really, I will never advise anyone but a developer to install KDE by compiling [12:09] unless you want to have fun [12:09] voicu: Upgrade to dapper drake :) [12:09] or you are running a slack [12:09] raphink: unless he's a gentoo user [12:10] Chousuke: no, a slack user [12:10] Chousuke: gentoo users don't build from tar.gz [12:10] oh, right, i forgot... the idea was to install two versions of kde on the same computer [12:10] well, they do [12:10] but it's automated [12:10] all this trouble made me forget the main purpose :P === wincide [n=WeReTheC@165.Red-83-33-169.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] I wanted to install some KDE apps on my system but funk doesn't work ;p [12:10] fink* [12:10] hi [12:11] Chousuke: you're on MacOS? [12:11] hi dwkr [12:11] i need some help === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] raphink: yes. [12:11] voicu: do you want a working system, upgradable and all? or are you just playing around ? [12:11] dwkr: Just ask, don't ask about asking :D [12:11] Chousuke: what's u meant "fink dosen't work" [12:11] freeflying: it fails [12:12] Chousuke: ah! I had it work pretty well some time ago [12:12] it fails at building python :/ [12:12] raphink: well, i wanted to install kde 3.5.1 and keep kde 3.4.0 too. if i like the new one i'll keep it and forget 3.4 [12:12] i have just finished to put dapper drake but at xorg configuration the sreen start corrupt === Snoopy010481 [n=thorsten@ACB37C70.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:12] voicu: and how do you plan to do that? [12:13] voicu: why, tell me, don't you use Kubuntu Dapper Flight 4 to test kde 3.5.1 on live CD ? [12:13] so i dont know what i have put for root password [12:13] by installing kde 3.5.1 in a different directory and i can't do that by installing packages, right? [12:13] voicu: instead of bugging your system like this [12:13] i wanted to see if i'm able to do it [12:14] voicu: if you want to try out kde 3.5.1, why don't you use a live CD ? [12:14] voicu: oh right ;) [12:14] well then fine [12:14] do it :) [12:14] installing KDE from sources is a painful process. [12:14] how do i change/remove root password, but i dont have the old one [12:14] Chousuke: no, its not, it's just very long [12:14] raphink: yes, that's what I meant ;P [12:14] dwkr: do you have a root password already? [12:14] dwkr: if you havn't created one yes, sudo passwd root [12:14] and if it fails, you'll be pissed. [12:14] sure but i dont know it [12:15] Chousuke: hehe yes [12:15] the thing is that make doesn't find some files. i didn't change anything in the sources. how can that happen? [12:15] raphink: and remember that he will have to resolve any dependencies manually too [12:15] ok noteventime i trie that [12:15] dwkr: how do you know you've got one ? [12:15] voicu: what do you use to compile kde ? [12:15] just press enter fo the reste of installation but dont know what 've do [12:15] Chousuke: yes, I know that, thats' what I said : he''s going to bug his system entirely [12:16] dwkr: did you install in expert mode? [12:16] raphink: it's possible to do cleanly too [12:16] i have gcc3.3, g++ 3.3, automake 1.9 and all the dependant packages [12:16] passwd: password updated successfully [12:16] just install to /usr/local/ === kitsch [n=sam@84-217-25-171.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:16] no normal mode [12:16] yo kitsch :) [12:16] it seem i dont have one before :p [12:16] dwkr: then you had no root password so far, and it would have probably been better to keep none [12:16] raphink: if configure works, why does make give me errors? [12:16] by default you have no root password, adn that's how it's meant to be [12:17] thanks [12:17] voicu: because you might miss some dependencies I guess [12:17] i have one now [12:17] voicu: many times, configure works and make fails ;) === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu [12:17] voicu: tens of times a day I'm afraid I get configure scrits that are happy with everything, and make fails [12:17] pff === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:18] raphink: ok, that seems a nasty job trying to get all the dependencies [12:18] noteventime: imo it's better to explain users why they don't have a root password and how to use sudo ... [12:18] damn adept not working [12:18] i guess i'll leave it alone :P [12:18] voicu: it's a horrible job. Ask Riddell about it ;) [12:19] dwkr: adept won't be working with your root password [12:19] raphink: I always think they already know but need su for some reason :) [12:19] noteventime: ask before thinking this [12:19] s/thinking/assuming/ [12:19] raphink: Yes, i know i should have :P [12:19] ;) [12:19] raphink: it doesnt load anything [12:19] it doesnt ask any password [12:20] voicu: you'll need to set your kde paths manually, too [12:20] dwkr: Do you know how to use sudo? [12:20] yeah [12:20] sudo command :p [12:20] hhmpf [12:20] type password [12:20] why would you need a root account dwkr ? [12:20] dwkr: Your better of using sudo, only use su if you realy need to [12:20] raphink: that i managed, thankfully === DevGet [n=gustav@h187n2fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] You need an root account to install crossoveroffice [12:21] ah [12:21] adept asked me root password [12:22] You use your own :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] it uses sudo :) [12:22] dwkr: adept asks your own password, using kdesu (equ. of sudo) [12:22] noteventime: s/sudo/kdesu/ this is very differnt although the result is the same === Tudor_b [n=tudor@82.76.230.141] has joined #kubuntu [12:23] noteventime: kdesu is not sudo, it asks for your own password, but makes you root (like user root) whereas sudo doesn't make you root but only gives you root rights [12:23] ok, i think i'm back lol [12:23] Hobbsee: it seems you are [12:23] raphink: Really, I should have known that when trying to install crossoveroffice [12:24] noteventime: ;) === hDp` [n=headup@abo-0-249.modems.semnet.tm.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] noteventime: using sudo -i has quite the same effect, too, imo [12:24] raphink: been having lots of fun with this new kernel freezing, or just plain not booting - now most recently my kopete wouldnt sign in - i just gave up and went to 2.6.15-15-386 [12:24] Hobbsee: argh [12:24] the kernel boots fine here, but the comp doesn't shut down ;) [12:25] heh great [12:25] had some of that too - power button works well [12:25] lol [12:25] I think it's kdm again, that doesn't want to be shut down [12:25] ugh [12:25] Hobbsee: yeah sure ;) [12:25] I think I'll be installing DF5 when it comes out [12:25] this is revenge for saying that i wasnt having many bugs, wasnt it! [12:25] or maybe even DF4 [12:26] having a brand clean account [12:26] with Tonio's settings :) === SirKillalot [n=nerd@dslb-084-056-091-107.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] good idea === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #kubuntu === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:31] rhaa === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has joined #kubuntu === tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === tomas_ [n=tomas@81-234-92-64-no91.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:34] hello people [12:34] 'ello [12:34] is there anyone that can help me with some packeting? [12:35] :) I'll do my best [12:35] some packeting? [12:35] :) [12:35] ah :P [12:35] i have a package with a depency problem on dapper drake [12:35] I want to run amarok/etc. or other apps which use sound, that are running on laptop, so send thier sound over to the arts server running on desktop. so that i don't have to keep switching wires. like all the laptop sound gets to desktop ove the network and comes out of my desktop speakers [12:35] but there is package in dapper drake that can replace it [12:35] so i want to go inside the .deb file and change the depency [12:35] dependency [12:36] ok [12:36] do you know how? [12:37] Open the deb file in ark and take a look :9 [12:37] i have [12:37] i changed the depency in control also [12:37] and used dpkg [12:37] to build the package [12:37] it worked [12:37] noteventime: now that is a dirty practice [12:37] :) [12:37] hehe [12:37] but when i try to install it complains something about rm [12:37] *-) [12:38] rm? === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@p509218E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] yes [12:38] i will try to translate it into english :P [12:38] raphink: Now I only helped him/her, It was his/her idea :-) I'm compleatly inocent, hehe [12:38] tomas_: paste it as is [12:38] noteventime: yeah yeah [12:39] raphink: in swedish? [12:39] raphink: are you sure about that ;) [12:39] tomas_: if you there is a dependency issue in dapper drake, I'd rather you report it to malone so it's fixed officially [12:39] tomas_: ja :) [12:39] gr s [12:39] aha [12:39] s ni r svenskar :P [12:40] men hjlp [12:40] vad man ska jobba sig :P [12:40] :) [12:40] noteventime: ah du talar svenska ? [12:40] Borde ha stt p telia.se [12:40] raphink: Hehe, tydligen [12:40] hehe :) [12:40] Meh. [12:40] "rmdir" p paketets kontrollinformation "usr" svarade inte "ej katalog": Katalog inte tom [12:41] tomas_: ok go on paste your output [12:41] tomas_: and please reoprt the bug, so everybody benefits from the fix [12:41] tomas_: even even post a patch if you fixed thebug [12:41] It's been so long since I studied swedish that I don't even understand all of that ;P [12:41] Chousuke: kind of same here ;) [12:41] raphink: maybe i should tell you that this deb isnt a part of the repository :p [12:41] tomas_: what deb is it? [12:42] tomas_: that's normal then I suppose. [12:42] raphink: it's called ktechlab and is working in dapper drake (expect that any packager manager removes it due to dependecy problem [12:42] tomas_: do you plan on getting it in Ubuntu? [12:42] http://ktechlab.org/ [12:42] tomas_: I've gotten that sometimes. It doesn't really hurt. [12:43] it just the depency were changed to kdelibs4c2a or whatever it's called it wont complain [12:43] if [12:43] dependency [12:43] tomas_: seems like a nice app, you could try to get it in Dapper+1 [12:43] oki [12:43] tomas_ I had that one too [12:43] tomas_ I compiled it though [12:43] tomas_: then building it again would b emuch better, if you can find the package sources [12:43] i will try to look into the .deb once again cause i saw that the data.tar.gz was empty :$ [12:44] the dependencies will be updated automatically with your version of the libs [12:44] looking into the deb is dirty [12:44] hehe [12:44] building it is the way [12:44] but [12:44] bad hacks are nice :) [12:44] i wonder where there aren't any good graphical .deb maniupulator [12:44] why [12:44] tomas_: because we never work on .deb files [12:45] =? [12:45] mkay [12:45] tomas_: we build deb files for installation [12:45] You create deb files [12:45] but we never edit them [12:45] or quite [12:45] tomas_: when you create an openoffice document [12:45] would you ever try to read and mofidy the binary ? [12:45] that would be stupid [12:46] :) but geek [12:46] it would [12:46] noteventime: I make a different between geek practices and useless/stupid ones [12:46] but .deb isn't oo documents ;) [12:46] tomas_: .deb is binary stuff [12:46] there are some readable data in .debs [12:46] raphink: Useless geekish stuff :D [12:46] it contains binary contents [12:46] okioki [12:47] back to source then [12:47] tomas_: we work on the sources [12:47] any good tutorial to do packeting? [12:47] orig.tar.gz, diff.gz and dsc [12:47] packeting for n00bs [12:47] tomas_: sure, the New Debian Maintainer's Guide [12:47] i hope its a crash course :p [12:47] lol [12:48] it's certainly comprehensive [12:48] just what i didnt want to hear :p [12:48] tomas_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Packaging/Tips [12:48] hehe [12:48] does anyone knows the status for libfmod? === ziza [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] are we gonna se it soon? [12:48] tomas_: Dapper Drake is in FeatureFreeze [12:48] so if it's not in now, it won't be in 2 months === PaKyKo [n=pakyko@84-121-160-88.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:48] ;) [12:49] that's the status [12:49] if i dont fix it myself then :p [12:49] motiviation to learn :p [12:49] vation === chaotic [n=stefan@dyndsl-085-016-054-136.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] if you want packages in Ubuntu, you get them in ;) === tid-wave [n=tid-wave@82.76.187.13] has left #kubuntu [] [12:49] tomas_: the best way for you to be sure to get ktechlab in Dapper+1 is to get it in yourself [12:49] i will see what i can do then :) [12:49] thank you all for your help :) [12:49] have a nice day [12:50] hej d ;) [12:50] tomas_: hand on on #ubuntu-motu for help [12:50] #kubuntu is not for packaging stuff, #ubuntu-motu is [12:50] ;) [12:50] thank you [12:50] bye [12:50] hej da, tomas :) === tomas_ [n=tomas@81-234-92-64-no91.tbcn.telia.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:51] Hehe, mnga svenska som anvnder kubuntu XD [12:53] noteventime: hehe [12:53] but french people are already taking it over :p [12:54] haha === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26FA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:54] hehe [12:55] and we have Riddell and dholbach on our side :p [12:55] i found 5 others [12:55] by looking at domain [12:55] for what? [12:55] ah? [12:55] In the user list omn the right [12:55] let's see [12:56] kitsch and malte [12:56] are those i remember right now [12:56] is there a boy who is a irc Pro ? [12:56] is there a boy who is a irc Pro ? [12:57] what's the problem samoura ? [12:57] osh_ [12:57] what is it that you want most? a boy or an irc pro? === raphink goes hide [12:57] What about a female IRC pro? [12:58] heh [12:58] awwww is swedish [12:58] noteventime: females dont exist on the internet [12:58] ahhh [12:58] hehe [12:58] pulver is awwww [12:58] anyone has seen Hobbsee around? [12:58] Yes [12:59] raphink: hmmm? [12:59] :) === _tim [n=tim@58.164.47.212] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] I can't see her === _tim is now known as yello [12:59] seems she's disappeared [12:59] doh! females don't exist on the internet [12:59] hehe [12:59] hi everyone im having some problems playing dvds has anyon experienced this before? [12:59] of course, yes [12:59] i'm an illusion [12:59] yello yello [12:59] sorry to interupt [12:59] lol hi [12:59] did you install libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 yello? [12:59] ... no [01:00] ill check on adept [01:00] then do [01:00] thanks [01:00] raphink: noteventime and whoever else: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 [01:00] you need to add PLF repos === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@p50921AED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] you won't find libdvdcss2 on adept though yello [01:00] this dist-upgrade thingy is gonna take all day lol [01:00] noteventime: noooooooooo! [01:00] no plf repo please [01:00] libdvdcss are in the PLF repos [01:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [01:00] haha, you dont like those either? [01:00] libdvdcss can be installed from libdvdread3 with a script [01:01] I don't want users to have plf and then complain about non official debs they can't control [01:01] noteventime: we try to make ubuntu reliable [01:01] using plf doesn't help === ubuntu is now known as lolsen === _samoura [n=samoura@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [01:01] ok via terminal [01:01] :D === syl [n=dima@85.236.161.66] has joined #kubuntu [01:01] raphink: comeon it's like three ppackages [01:02] noteventime: no, it's like a repository in sources.list [01:02] w32codecs libdvdcss and the sun-jre === Dreamstar [n=cristian@213-140-19-124.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:02] it all seems to be working [01:02] yello good [01:02] hei people anybody has fixed the prob with sound configu? [01:02] you can remove it afterward :) [01:02] i had libdvdread [01:02] just not the libdvdcss2 [01:02] what problem Dreamstar ? [01:02] fingers crossed [01:03] yello oh ok [01:03] so you just had to launch the script [01:03] i mean about device being busy for the system sounds so that other app can't use that device [01:03] woah [01:03] thanks so much [01:03] linux is just gettin easier and easier [01:03] thanku all so much :D [01:03] Dreamster: You could tunnel through artsdsp [01:04] artsdsp?how to use it? [01:04] artsdsp THE_APPLICATION [01:05] Some apps start throught scripts, and raphink probably won't let me tell you to add artsdsp to the starter script [01:05] so for example i should put "artsdsp" before the calling of the app iin the K menu noteventime? [01:05] yes === iwang [n=iwang@219.95.97.132] has joined #kubuntu [01:05] noteventime: hehe [01:05] just try it in the termina l first [01:05] helo2 [01:05] to see that it works [01:05] noteventime: I'd so like users to report all the things they find to malone, that would be so helpful [01:05] iwang: 'ello [01:05] ello [01:06] Why isn't there a way to make evertthing go through artS :) [01:06] artsdsp is an application? it looks i dont have it [01:06] sumone [01:06] can u help me for mounting drice [01:06] *drive [01:06] drice? [01:06] aha [01:06] sure [01:06] can u pm me [01:07] Why? [01:07] hehe [01:07] easy to communicate [01:07] damn adept doesnt find artsdsp :( [01:07] its installed [01:07] by kde [01:07] actually [01:07] ah ok i'll try so [01:07] i got 3 partition [01:07] iwang: better do it here so others can se [01:07] ok [01:08] but rite now only one can be read/open [01:08] raphink can tell you whats dengerous to do, haha :D [01:08] noteventime: :p [01:08] <_samoura> noteeventime [01:08] iwang: what are the formats of each of your partitions ? [01:08] sorry, I just had tp [01:08] ntfs === puckman [n=gerard@dynamic-212-225-59-82.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:08] !tell iwang about ntfs [01:09] iwang: you know you won't be able to write on ntfs, and only be able to read as root [01:09] ntfs for windows rite [01:09] untill you get to Dapper [01:09] iwang: yes [01:09] hatake_kakashi: seems like the bot is off [01:09] how to make is as ext [01:09] ubotu: hello!!!!!!!!!!! [01:09] Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, raphink [01:09] raphink: the bot is still there [01:09] noteventime: it didnt work, as i open amarok it's still says that the alsa device is busy :( [01:09] iwang: you remove it and make a new one ;) [01:09] iwang: but windows won't work on ext [01:09] iwang: backup data, repartition, format and then put the data back.. that's how I'm planning to do it [01:10] aha [01:10] its ok === _samoura is now known as samoura [01:10] an option might be install windows on fat32 instead iwang [01:10] im not using windows anymore [01:10] Dreamstar: amaroK can use artS [01:10] raphink: though there is ext2 fs for windows.. which can also do ext3 [01:10] hatake_kakashi: dapper's kernel supports ntfs iirc [01:10] that's another option [01:10] how to remove it from terminal === samoura is now known as _samoura_ [01:10] go to settings then engine [01:10] raphink: though not in rw mode, only ro mode :) [01:10] hatake_kakashi: yes, you can read/write ext on windows, but not boot on it imo [01:10] ah [01:10] ok [01:11] i try go to setting and engine [01:11] raphink: ahh yes of course not, windows is dodgy ;) [01:11] well i dont have the arts for amarok, i'll take them from the repos of the beta? [01:11] iwang: use gparted to remove the partitions [01:11] Dreamster: configure-> amaroK -> engine -> there you probably can choose artS [01:11] or qtparted [01:11] how to use im [01:11] im nooB [01:11] iwang: do you have gparted installed? [01:11] noteventime: i only have gstreamer for amarok [01:11] or qtparted [01:11] search for parted HOWTO iwang [01:12] Dreamster: A few cm down [01:12] ah found it! ok it's working now [01:12] nice [01:12] Have fun :) === Ilokaasu [n=matti@dsl-aur-ff27c000-33.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] and for the other apps instead i can use artsdsp? (skype, teamspeak2 and so on)? [01:13] Dreamster: mostly yes [01:13] oki thank u sooooooooooo much :) [01:13] np === noteventime is now known as noteventime_bbl [01:14] iwang: right? [01:15] yero [01:15] thanks [01:15] done already [01:15] mwach@ [01:15] good :) [01:16] well done === Dreamstar [n=cristian@213-140-19-124.fastres.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] may i know tools like adobe photoshop [01:19] gimp, krita [01:19] izit? [01:19] hurm [01:19] i got trouble with gimp [01:19] hehe [01:19] ok now [01:19] well gimp is maybe the best equivalent to photoship around [01:20] i got sumthing to do [01:20] although krita is getting very good now [01:20] thanks for ur help [01:20] np [01:20] we meet again later [01:20] tha~ === noteventime_bbl is now known as noteventime [01:20] sure [01:20] Yay i'm back === lewnidas_ [i=user@patr530-a132.otenet.gr] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] and I'm belly [01:21] Ok [01:21] Well, thats good for you :D [01:21] hej noteventime :) hur gar dej ? [01:21] hmmpf === tomas_ [n=tomas@81-234-92-64-no91.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:21] jodu, bara bra === raphink goes to find his old swedish book [01:21] hall igen :p [01:21] :) [01:22] Hejsan [01:22] ah, welcome back tomas_ [01:22] fick en /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline nr jag gjorde en make, any ideas? [01:22] tomas_: I had a quick look at ktechlab, seems interesting [01:22] and the libs are already in dapper [01:22] dont try to steal it for me :p [01:22] Its cool [01:22] im compiling ;) [01:22] :P [01:23] tomas_: I won't steal it [01:23] tomas_: just know that it won't get in Ubuntu before dapper+1 though === hugelmopf [n=frank@p54B3C81D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] I've used it, didn't get it to use gsimul, or whatever its called, though === emergence [n=area@CPE0014bf079de7-CM000e5c709370.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:23] noteventime: are you running dapper? [01:23] Yes [01:23] it works perfectly here for me :) [01:23] :) [01:23] except that synaptic removes it everytime cause of dependency issues :P [01:23] Not when I ran ktechlab though [01:23] tomas_: so are you currently packaging ktechlab? [01:23] i dont know :p [01:24] trying to compile it :p [01:24] "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline" [01:24] readline is a library [01:24] that i have installed :) [01:24] you need to find where realine lib is [01:24] and have your package depend on it [01:24] its not in a path probably [01:24] yep [01:24] just what i thought :/ [01:25] What is the name of the lib path again? [01:25] i dont know :p [01:25] readline :p [01:25] ? [01:25] i have a libreadline.so.5 in my lib [01:25] if thats the file *-) [01:25] I have a python lib called readline [01:25] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=readl [01:26] funny [01:26] /lib/libreadline.so.5.1 [01:26] /lib/libreadline.so.5 [01:26] /lib/libreadline.so.4.3 [01:26] /lib/libreadline.so.4 [01:26] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=readline&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386 [01:26] hehe [01:26] sorry [01:26] so do i only need to PATH=/lib/libreadline.so.5? [01:26] ah === iouiou [n=iouiou@mts78-1-82-235-109-51.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:26] in libreadline? === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26FA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline" [01:27] i dont want this error [01:27] :p [01:27] Isnt there a special path for libraries? [01:27] I'd patch configure [01:27] hehe [01:27] *-) === raphink is a barbarian [01:27] :-) What a surprice :) === puckman [n=gerard@dynamic-212-225-59-82.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] tomas_: You better use kcontrol === tomas_ likes to finding the light switch in the darkness [01:28] KControl? for what? [01:28] Editing the path [01:28] ah [01:28] kcontrol? [01:28] Systeminstllningarna ;) [01:28] or something [01:28] systeminstllningar is buggy [01:28] i like kcontrol better [01:29] yup [01:29] so buggy that I don't have it :p [01:29] just put kcontrol in run [01:29] lol [01:29] hehe [01:29] :p === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.100.137] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] yeah === jind [n=jind@213.161.249.249] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] systemsettings was released in ubuntu too fast [01:29] we shouldn't have it imo [01:29] s/fast/early/ === zblach [n=zblach@Toronto-HSE-ppp3726494.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] I didn't know kcontrol was still there till yesterday :) === andre^off is now known as andred [01:30] So i have been using systemsettingsXD [01:30] :p === andred is now known as andre^off [01:31] its nice that moodin or whatever its called was included in dapper :) [01:31] yes [01:31] and it's now defauilt [01:31] since 3 days ago [01:31] we have a brand new kdm theme + kslash [01:31] using moodin :) [01:31] that will be in dapper flight 5 :) [01:31] It is? [01:32] yep :) [01:32] Cool [01:32] just try it :) [01:32] I had to compile it myself :) [01:32] no it's in main now [01:32] It wasn't in the repo, please forgive me [01:32] :;) [01:32] :) [01:32] and installed by default in kubuntu === tomas_ is now known as tomas_away [01:33] When is dapper released [01:34] 19th of april :) [01:34] OMG, adept died on me for the first time :O === tomas_away is now known as tomplast [01:34] i had a nice time last time i updated dapper :p [01:34] now it's bug fixing, polishing, polishing :) [01:34] yay, 3 days before my birthsday === andre^off is now known as andred [01:34] it was yesterday when i ran both ubuntu and dapper and i just had updated dapper [01:34] i couldn't login :p [01:34] i got a x error :p [01:34] something about one_level :p [01:35] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule [01:35] kubuntu has been polished quite a lot lately [01:35] thanks to Tonio [01:35] OMG, adept is dead :P [01:36] isnt that normal :p [01:36] any btw, was adept gonna get a new look? [01:36] it is [01:36] with some pictures i hope :p [01:36] dapper now has more adept stuff [01:36] i saw a screenshot for adept 2.0 i think [01:36] adept itself has a new look [01:37] then adept_installer is an easy to use interface [01:37] for most common apps === HEY [n=keqiugua@bb220-255-77-244.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu [01:37] and btw the adept notifier or whatever its called is not so good [01:37] and there's adept_notifier [01:37] lol, adept wont even start anymore :P [01:37] hui [01:37] working with adept-updater [01:37] hi === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:37] tomplast: why? [01:37] il make restart X and hope for the best [01:37] like it seems that it checks once a day for updates [01:37] noteok [01:37] often i start adept-updater [01:37] tomplast: sure [01:38] and then the notifier finds something :p [01:38] Hi, doesnanyone here know if installing turbogears as they say on their web will screw my current ubuntu installation? [01:38] every 15th minute would be good [01:38] tomplast: taht's very normal === _matteo [n=matteo@host-84-220-162-25.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:38] or setting the checking time yourself [01:38] tomplast: every 15 minute is too much for most people [01:38] tomplast: you can set it yourself ;) [01:38] yeah but if you could set it yourself :) [01:38] sudo crontab -e [01:38] ah :p [01:38] how :p [01:38] aha :p [01:38] and there you go [01:39] tomplast: the check for updates is independant from adept-notifier [01:39] oki [01:39] adept-notifier does nothing [01:39] hi. my kd is having some weirdness. i cannot access shells with ctrl+alt+f#. how can this be fixed? === noteventime [n=tilo@h192n5c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] it just grabs the apt cache [01:39] :p [01:39] oki [01:39] yay [01:39] the upadate is ran as a crontab === b0re [n=b0re@c-67-169-195-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:40] zblach: did you check if you didn't push the F lock key by mistake ? [01:40] my crontab is empty :p [01:40] Hmm... Why is there another background between my KDM theme and my splashscreen [01:40] should it be that :xp:? [01:40] regardless of FLock's status, i cannot switch to a shell === _matteo [n=matteo@host-84-220-162-25.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:40] tomplast: not yours, the root's :p [01:41] I changed the roots === pm [n=pm@80.50.255.82] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] It's still the same [01:41] i ran it with sudo [01:41] hmm [01:41] so shouldnt i see anything then ? [01:41] i remember trying to enable other keys on my board, and switching it to utf8 mode? '+ = ' [01:41] tomplast: must be another crontab then === _matteo [n=matteo@host-84-220-162-25.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:42] or maybe it never updates :p [01:42] tomplast: :p [01:42] tomplast: you should ask mornfall about that [01:42] maybe i should try to reinstall adept-notifier or something [01:42] raphink: My login would be so nice if i could get the background away :) [01:42] someday :p [01:42] noteventime: that's easy [01:42] i have some creepy ekorre as bootsplash [01:42] the guy from ice age [01:43] noteventime: with kdmtheme [01:43] raphink: I have kdmtheme === pm [n=pm@80.50.255.82] has joined #kubuntu [01:43] raphink: And I have changed my theme and my splash screen so they match [01:43] noteventime: oh no sorry it's not in kdmtheme it's in the login manager in kcontrol [01:43] ok === tomplast tomplast_busy === tomplast is now known as tomplast_busy [01:44] raphink, FLock nothing doing [01:44] zblach: weird [01:44] did you try restarting KDE zblach ? === matteo_ [n=matteo@host-84-220-162-25.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] after toggling the FLock? === roconnor [n=roconnor@i129246.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] i've had kb strangeness for a few weeks [01:45] ah === blackflag [n=blackfla@212.144.239.86] has joined #kubuntu [01:46] Lets hope it works now [01:48] What is the command to the the kernel version again? [01:48] uname -r [01:49] thanks === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26FA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === h1dd3nh4xx0r [n=h1dd3nh4@c-58ce70d5.28-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === SkrotFFS [n=magnus@bl166a.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #kubuntu === _vincent [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === DevGet [n=gustav@h187n2fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === grimse [n=grimse@p5481C203.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === jind [n=jind@213.161.249.249] has joined #kubuntu === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === tomplast_busy is now known as tomplast [02:00] have anyone tried perlbox? [02:01] http://perlbox.org/ [02:01] it has speech recognition ;) === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _vincent [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === thmas [n=thomas@i577BC1D3.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === noteventime [n=tilo@h192n5c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:02] :D yay raphink it worked, weee consistend look and feel [02:02] :D [02:03] You would'nt by any chance know where to get the newet kexi as a deb? X) === dolmans [n=dolmans@222.129.235.169] has joined #kubuntu === ciga [n=ciga@82-77-103-20.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] hi [02:05] can I read perldoc in a konqueror window? === FiNeZ [n=FiNeX@host4-254.pool870.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] like man:// ? [02:05] noteventime: building the debian sid version? [02:06] Hello! [02:07] raphink: I dunno, just one so i caninstall the koffice meta package [02:08] ciga: yes [02:08] 'ello === mada [n=mada@86.123.187.43] has joined #kubuntu === yanawillow [n=yanawill@2.94.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:09] ciga: I think [02:09] noteventime: :) [02:09] salut [02:09] Geetings [02:09] noteventime: I can find a way: man:/usr/share/man/man3/open.3perl.gz , but what about pods and other stuffs? === yanawillow is now known as margouyab [02:10] ciga: I'm sorry I dont even know what a pod is XD, but i know you can read UNIX man pages with man:// [02:11] <_samoura_> noteventime what is agein the irc.simnet.is ip ? [02:12] samoura: ping irc.simnet.is [02:12] and you will see the ip [02:12] <_samoura_> what pin where write? [02:12] ping in the console [02:12] Does someone know a book about design patterns in C++ XD === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === noteventime Just realised this is not the right place to ask at all === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === tobe [n=tobe@dslb-084-063-001-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === tobe is now known as _tobe_ === fita [n=ircap@82.158.0.208] has joined #kubuntu === _tobe_ [n=tobe@dslb-084-063-001-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === h1dd3nh4xx0r [n=h1dd3nh4@c-58ce70d5.28-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === JohnFlux [n=imy@konversation/developer/JohnFlux] has joined #kubuntu === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Gunni [n=Gunni@xdsl-81-173-228-239.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu === pradeepto [n=pradeept@dialpool-210-214-14-185.maa.sify.net] has joined #kubuntu === thmas_ [n=thomas@i577BDDB4.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === _vincent [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] Could someone give me a nice subversion frontend for KDE? [02:31] katapult is the best thing that ever happened to an OS X) === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26FA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === kitsch [n=sam@84-217-25-171.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:40] <_samoura_> noteventime what do i do when i enter ls and than psotnic-current-1.tar.gz but there is no output :S === _vincent [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:44] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ls [02:44] <_samoura_> commands psotnic-0.2.7 psotnic-current-1.tar.gz [02:44] <_samoura_> commands~ psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz psotnic-current.tar.gz [02:44] <_samoura_> conf.hub psotnic-current trash.desktop === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@dsl54009FFC.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu [02:46] ls outputs whats in the current directory === asraniel [n=asraniel@28.203.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu [02:47] psotnic-current-1.tar.gz is a gzipped tar kinda like a zip or rar === fx [n=fx@ras75-3-82-225-165-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _jeroen [n=jeroen@ip3e83670c.speed.planet.nl] has joined #kubuntu === admrl [n=admrl@24-180-218-205.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === _vincent [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === FiNeZ [n=FiNeX@host4-254.pool870.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu [] === Orvil [n=danieljp@62.61.133.61.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk] has joined #kubuntu === caly [n=caly@adsl-ull-150-144.47-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [02:55] <_samoura_> noteventime how do i move that psotnic to home folder by konsole how [02:55] <_samoura_> please tell me :P [02:56] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$ move to home folder ? [02:57] <_samoura_> i am learning this i have just installd i fail by my salfe :P [02:58] <_samoura_> :D i am the best ever was === buz [n=buz@80-218-105-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === hDp` [n=headup@abo-0-249.modems.semnet.tm.fr] has joined #kubuntu [03:11] <_samoura_> #ubuntu === HymnToLife [n=_mfb@dyn-213-36-162-203.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] do you know a volume manager with OSD? === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu === chriswk [n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu === Paradosso [n=Paradoss@host55-113.pool875.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@dsl54009FFC.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu [03:17] samoura: mv FILE_TO_MOVE WHERE_TO_MOVE [03:19] <_samoura_> mv psotnic ~/home/ ? [03:19] ~ means home [03:19] mv psotnic ~/ [03:20] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$ mv psotnic ~/ [03:20] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$ [03:20] :) [03:20] <_samoura_> fine? [03:21] yes [03:21] <_samoura_> okei how do i copy? [03:21] cp what where [03:21] if you want output you need to ad -v like mv -v psotnic ~/ === sto6ma9ch [n=sto6ma9c@216.223.173.45] has joined #kubuntu [03:21] mv - move cp - copy rm - remove === roconnor [n=roconnor@i129246.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [03:22] <_samoura_> #samoura noteventime i thnik you can help me with the rest :P === caly [n=caly@adsl-ull-150-144.47-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@dsl54009FFC.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === caly [n=caly@adsl-ull-150-144.47-151.net24.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Acidic32 [i=blade@i.shot-up.dizzee-rascal.biz] has joined #kubuntu [03:30] !kde3.5 [03:30] (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". === _ubuntu [n=ubuntu@203.213.199.161] has joined #kubuntu === _ubuntu [n=ubuntu@203.213.199.161] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2D9AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === _alexis [n=alexis@84-120-1-251.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Pl [n=che@p548B017B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Pl [n=che@p548B017B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === DevGet [n=gustav@h187n2fls31o1096.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === usercamp5 [n=usercamp@202.155.149.254] has joined #kubuntu === seicherlbob [n=peter@dsl-159-74.utaonline.at] has joined #kubuntu === pv__ [n=pv@a212-54-30-232.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] !named [03:47] What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ryanakca [03:47] !bind [03:47] ryanakca: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ [03:48] anybody know if BIND/named creates the domain? like say I wanted a domain say... ryanakca.org, would it create it, or would it just say that ryanakca.org is at 24.226.20.171? === buz [n=buz@80-218-105-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ciga_ [n=ciga@82-77-103-20.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has joined #kubuntu === ciga_ is now known as ciga === xandhy [n=xandhy@drozd.smutek.pl] has joined #kubuntu === ciga_ [n=ciga@82-77-103-20.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has joined #kubuntu === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === JakubS [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === RomanK [n=roman@p54A26FA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === __mikem [n=michael@201-106.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === MeTa [n=sajt@dsl54009FFC.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu === fjellrev1 [n=fjellrev@193.90.57.44] has joined #kubuntu === _ubuntu [n=ubuntu@p5081977E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:02] Anyone here have any experience with nvidia and tv out??i found something called nvtv,but the program seems to disappear === mata_svada [n=mata@85-124-109-142.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === kitsch| [n=sam@84-217-175-88.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #kubuntu === Xemanth^ [n=xemanth@dsl-hkigw7-fedcdc00-213.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #Kubuntu === hatake_kakashi [n=meh@60-241-0-178.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Snake|Sleep is now known as Snake__ === _b [n=b@c-2a99e255.1310-7-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === richard2 [n=richard2@200.6.221.38] has joined #kubuntu === mike____ [n=mike@ip70-161-23-193.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@dsl51B66A25.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === Pingjockey [n=mike@ip70-161-23-193.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === edinho [n=edinho@20150182063.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] good morning folks, quick question on usb audio [04:18] Trying to get the EQ to work using xmms with no luck.. is that normal?? === noteventime [n=tilo@h192n5c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === squidy [n=squidy@82-45-244-207.cable.ubr03.camd.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@dsl51B66A25.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@dsl51B66A25.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === Eruantalon [n=hans@56344E27.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #kubuntu === tid-wave [n=tid-wave@82.76.187.13] has joined #kubuntu [04:29] hello! in ichat style, kopete displays white background for text [04:29] it looks very annoying [04:29] (breezy) === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@dsl51B66AB9.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu === Xemanth^ [n=xemanth@dsl-hkigw7-fedcdc00-213.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #Kubuntu === pablud [n=pablud@194.Red-83-46-147.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:32] hola pablud [04:32] hola chiquito [04:33] hola === mata [n=mata@85-124-102-94.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === reagleBRKLN [n=reagleBR@69.206.224.97] has joined #kubuntu === reagleBRKLN [n=reagleBR@69.206.224.97] has left #kubuntu ["Ooh,] === samoura [n=samoura@dsl-225-59.hive.is] has joined #kubuntu [04:37] #samoura [04:38] hello everyone [04:39] anybody know where I can find the kubuntu logo on a transparent background??? [04:40] http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork [04:41] ty === Snoopy010481 [n=thorsten@ACB37C70.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === Mazingaro [n=tetsuja@host21-226.pool8710.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === tid-wave [n=tid-wave@82.76.187.13] has left #kubuntu [] === angasule [n=angasule@190.48.165.20] has joined #kubuntu === wu_nex [n=wu_nex@M350P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu === carel [n=carel@j244107.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === aeon17x [n=aeon17x@210.5.113.157] has joined #kubuntu === puckman_afk [n=gerard@dynamic-212-225-59-82.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === McScruff [n=mcscruff@cpc3-folk1-3-0-cust141.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === wirr [n=wirr@i53874BBF.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === fascinated [n=nate@user-12l26fr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:03] !dapper === Wesselaar [n=Wesselaa@i230149.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Wesselaar [n=Wesselaa@i230149.upc-i.chello.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Tjo] === uri [n=uri@host241-108.pool879.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === irvken [n=sean@82-45-13-249.cable.ubr01.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === uri_ [n=uri@host241-108.pool879.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === tomas_ [n=tomas@81-234-92-64-no91.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu === _yann [n=yann@bgn92-4-82-238-212-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:21] hi everyone [05:21] are there any kubuntu-devs here? === _ubuntu [n=ubuntu@dsl-sjkgw4-fee1f800-117.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu [05:22] me [05:22] :) [05:22] good [05:22] one annoying bug in kde is when i try to make a file runable [05:23] known [05:23] it works but i get a messagebox with the path to the file [05:23] aha [05:23] :) [05:24] can you also tell me if its possible to access a sony handycam through usb? === xwolf- [n=igor@201.32.254.94] has joined #kubuntu [05:24] should be === richard2 [n=richard2@200.6.221.38] has joined #kubuntu [05:25] Much people says no but nothing is possible imo [05:25] is there a way to list recently installed packages? [05:25] Some know how to access a share folders? [05:25] xwolf-: /var/log/dpkg.log [05:26] jpatrick: can you tell me why amarok hangs when trying to play a stream? [05:26] tomas_: tried using a different engine [05:26] ? [05:27] what about uninstalling some of them? [05:27] jpatrick: xine worked before :/ === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:27] hmm [05:28] jpatrick: the playlist is finished as soon as i start a song :/ [05:28] some problem with your sound server then [05:28] some other sound works [05:28] and amarok seems to believe that each song is 0 sec long :/ [05:29] i'll try with reinstalling amarok and xine === Snoopy010481 [n=thorsten@ACB37C70.ipt.aol.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:29] anything on the status bar? [05:29] there is a big bubble that says the song title [05:30] but just a half second comes the next "playlist finished" [05:30] after [05:31] tomas_: have you set the correct enegine? [05:31] i have xine now [05:31] i have done this before [05:31] worked in breezy [05:31] and in dapper [05:31] before [05:31] i will try gstreamer as well [05:32] gstreamer got pulled out in dapper [05:32] aha [05:32] maybe i can change automatic to alsa [05:32] or oss [05:32] *-) [05:32] i dont think it will help but trying isnt wrong === freemanen [n=freemane@c83-248-209-102.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === pagux [n=pagux@59.144.244.92] has joined #kubuntu [05:33] how do you make firefox your default web browser in kde? [05:33] (instead of konqueror) [05:33] what does mepis have/do that kubuntu does not? [05:33] ryanakca: kcontrol [05:34] irvken: an ugly control panel :p [05:34] why might anyone use mepis over kubuntu [05:34] hello kubututites [05:34] :-) [05:34] hi pagux [05:34] hello pagux [05:34] That has too many t's [05:34] irvken: nothing imo [05:34] hi guys [05:34] is advertising recommendened here :p [05:34] but thousnads of them do [05:34] or some tipping :p [05:35] cause i know a poker site which have nice freerolls :) [05:35] I run mepis [05:35] that works in linux ;) [05:35] irvken: it is usable immediately after installation [05:35] anybody ever ran java webstart on kubuntu ? [05:35] tomas_: better do it on the offtopic channel, I guess. [05:35] tomas_: xine works here [05:35] for kubuntu you have to install lots of stuff first [05:35] jpatrick: :/ [05:35] ah [05:35] pagux: i have, just a couple of mins ago [05:35] (breezy) [05:36] examples JakubS === tomucho [i=tomucho@62-14-223-238.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] hello [05:36] do you mean openoffice or do you mean apache [05:36] thomas :javaweb start with jdk 1.5 ? === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] is there a firewall running by default on kubuntu? [05:36] irvken: working java/flash/mplayers/codecs [05:36] anyone knows what is the login/pass for the latest kubuntu live cd please ? [05:36] no [05:36] no [05:36] tomucho: there is none [05:36] pagus: i dont know. i have installed j2re1.4 and mozilla-plugin [05:37] jpatrick, It ask me to put a login and pass :( === Xemanth^ [n=xemanth@dsl-hkigw7-fedcdc00-213.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #Kubuntu [05:37] pagux: and that works fine for me ;) [05:37] JakubS, I've never managed to get them working first time with mepis [05:37] have u tried "javaws" in console ? [05:37] jpatrick: what command? "firefox %s" "firefox" "firefox %u" "firefox %U" etc, etc [05:37] I've never used kubuntu [05:37] tomucho: try 'ubuntu' with no pass [05:37] but looks like I ight have to [05:37] weird, i had them working immediately after installation [05:37] pagux: works like a charm === dwkr [n=dwkr@lns-bzn-20-82-248-96-241.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:37] jpatrick, it said login failed [05:38] ryanakca: check the command for your kmenu [05:38] http://www.mepis.org/node/9096 [05:38] pagux: doesnt it work for you? [05:38] not for me :-( [05:38] pagux: but try to install j2re1.4 [05:38] pagux: and the mozilla-plugin for it :) === Donvinzk [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:38] jpatrick: wouldnt that give me "firefox %whatever letter it is for my homepage"? [05:38] pagux: that works for me anyway :) [05:39] Java Web Start splash screen process exiting ..... [05:39] Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory === djk_ [n=djk@p54A2FBB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === jpatrick prefers konqueror again === frojnd [n=wildchil@BSN-77-169-220.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu === _yann [n=yann@bgn92-4-82-238-212-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:39] hmmm [05:39] how do i change a pdf? [05:40] djk_: impossible [05:40] afaik [05:40] djk_: import it in kword then edit === Dany [n=ad@84.54.70.65] has joined #kubuntu [05:40] ^^ [05:40] pagux: have you tried google? [05:41] pagux: this page could maybe help you: http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=38&threadID=196066 === hugelmopf [n=frank@p54B3C81D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:41] hmmm... with "firefox %U" it opens two tabs of GMAIL when I left click the gmail notifier instead of one [05:41] people who can speak russian :) [05:41] pagux: they talk about a similiar problem anyway [05:41] !de [05:41] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de [05:41] help me [05:41] !se [05:41] DevGet: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/ [05:41] please [05:41] what is it dany? [05:41] !sv [05:41] Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DevGet [05:42] Dany? Whats your problem? [05:42] i cann't install wifi adapter ^( === keurl [n=keurl@192.116.112.149] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] on kubunyu [05:42] Dany: i dont know anything about wifi but i can try to help you anyway :p [05:42] Dany: what doesnt work exactly? [05:43] asus wl161 [05:43] i download driver [05:43] Dany: you want russian? [05:43] yes [05:43] !ru [05:43] Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help [05:43] tomas_: woah, xine is way better than gstreamer [05:43] Dany: Have you tried KWifiManager? [05:43] KWifiManager sucks :P [05:43] japtric: it seems that some program or something have stoolen my sound system or something :p === _yann [n=yann@bgn92-4-82-238-212-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:44] japtrick :/ [05:44] jpatrick [05:44] stupid keyboard :p [05:44] jp + tab [05:44] i wonder whats a japtrick is *-) === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-91.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] drivers are not installed ^( [05:45] Dany: isnt your wireless card detected ? [05:45] tomas_: https://launchpad.net/people/jpatrick :P === _yann [n=yann@bgn92-4-82-238-212-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] oki? [05:45] how i can se it & [05:46] InformationCentral [05:46] or something [05:46] i ithink its called [05:46] its in the system menu [05:46] KInfoCenter [05:46] KWifiManager cannt find wriles lan [05:47] *-) [05:48] :( [05:48] Sorry Dany maybe jpatrick knows better [05:48] :( sorry for ma english ^( === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #kubuntu [05:48] kwifimanager is meant for wireless connections [05:49] is it possible to print a PDF magnified? === tomas_ is now known as tomas_away [05:50] can't xine play mp3's? [05:51] :? [05:51] no [05:51] ? [05:51] are you funny? [05:51] download w32codecs and it will be fine [05:52] there is no w32codecs [05:52] =? [05:52] what do you mean by that? [05:52] extra repository its called AFAIK [05:52] the homepages says that xine says it support mp3 [05:53] anyone knows what is the login/pass for the latest kubuntu live cd please ? [05:53] but I can't play mp3 in amarok [05:53] DevGet: what site? === mata_svada [n=mata@85-124-102-94.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] http://xinehq.de/index.php/features [05:54] Ahh, may I ned extracodecs [05:55] i told you -) [05:55] yes, thx :) === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu === flo [n=flo@i577B291A.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:56] isnt it deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main [05:56] im not totaly sure but i think that repository contains w32codecs [05:56] marillat is not recommended [05:56] why? [05:56] i have heard from some that you can install w32codecs but you should deactivate marillat after [05:56] breaks stuff [05:56] istall libxine-extracodecs was enough [05:57] i did anyway [05:57] no [05:57] now its time for some card play === jpatrick never needed w32codecs anyway [05:57] see ya all [05:57] bye === tomas_away says that jpatrick doesnt likes movies === ugn [n=ugn@dslb-082-083-037-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === tristanmike [n=tristanm@blk-224-251-101.eastlink.ca] has joined #kubuntu === yanawillow [n=yanawill@2.94.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === _ugn [n=ugn@dslb-082-083-037-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === ugn_ [n=ugn@dslb-082-083-037-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === yanawillow is now known as margouyab [06:02] how much memory kubuntu needs to run respectfully ? === weedar [n=weedar@ti500710a080-0335.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu [06:03] 256 Mo I think [06:03] and 512 Mo for better performance [06:03] yep ^^ === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _victor [n=victor@85-53-93-65.mad1.adsl.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === _victor [n=victor@85-53-93-65.mad1.adsl.uni2.es] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === kakei [n=kakei@unaffiliated/kakei] has joined #kubuntu [06:07] hi,does any body have make a podcast in audacity? === DHGE [n=alois@i577A9A42.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu === callie [n=callie@host86-129-71-238.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:10] how do you figure out how many gigabytes you have left on your hd? === kokujo [n=jason@cpe-70-95-210-87.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:10] Hi, i've got this old computer i found and im trying to get it going, I'm getting a CMOS checksum error and cant seem to get into the BIOS any ideas guys? [06:10] ryanakca: df -h [06:10] ryanakca, df -h === richard2 [n=richard2@200.6.221.38] has joined #kubuntu [06:10] yeah, what he said [06:11] phew... still 18gb... === robotgeek [n=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu [06:11] Whew! === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse === mata [n=mata@85-124-6-222.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] robotgeek, you know anything about CMOS checksum errors? [06:13] callie: nope, might be a battery issue or something [06:14] yeah, already tried swapping it out, but no joy there either === bejoy [n=skiritku@202.41.228.162] has joined #kubuntu [06:16] callie: no clue, don't use PC's === bejoy [n=skiritku@202.41.228.162] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:16] callie: did you try pulling the jumpers? [06:17] you mean flashing the bios tristanmike ? yeah i did [06:18] callie: without just pulling the cmos right? [06:18] tristanmike, i'm not sure what you mean? pulling? === manveru is now known as manveru|sleep [06:18] callie: removing the cmos battery is one way, there is also a more "hardcoded" way to do it, and that's via the jumpers [06:19] yeah, i thought i already said i did that [06:19] callie: just making sure I didn't misunderstand you [06:19] cool [06:20] i had to flash the bios initialy becuase the bios had a p/w on it [06:20] now i cant even get to the bios [06:20] im assuming becuase of this error [06:22] are there any floppy utils i could try? [06:22] callie: did you backup the old bios? [06:23] nope [06:23] wha!? === kosh [n=kosh@aesaeion.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:23] callie: tisk, tisk [06:23] it was password protected tristanmike [06:24] callie: ok, did you get the same error on the old bios? the cmos checksum error? [06:24] no i dont think so [06:25] callie: I assumed you used you're board's manufactuer's tool's for flashing the bios? the file and the actual tool used? [06:25] what's the mobo? [06:26] tristanmike, a gigabyte something, hang on i'll check [06:29] tristanmike, Gigabyte GA-6WMMC7 [06:29] how i remove something fociblly or reinstall ? [06:30] it seems achache it not working on kubuntu [06:30] i can remove via apt as dependency issues === jind [n=jind@213.161.249.249] has joined #kubuntu === penguinboy [n=penguinb@24-159-145-55.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:34] hey hey hey === _tristanmike [n=tristanm@blk-224-251-101.eastlink.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:34] <_tristanmike> callie: sorry, I lost my internet [06:35] _tristanmike, thats cool [06:35] did you get my answer tristanmike ? [06:35] _tristanmike, Gigabyte GA-6WMMC7 [06:35] <_tristanmike> cool === Cheapy [n=Adm@londonderry-cuda1-68-234-71-44.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-91.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [06:36] <_tristanmike> did you use the manufacture's tool for upgrading as well as their bios file? === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.96.153] has joined #kubuntu [06:36] i dont know how to do that _tristanmike, and remember this a computer i found dumped [06:36] <_tristanmike> haha [06:37] i just thought it might be fun to try and get it going, the power supply was knackered and i was hoping that was its only fault [06:38] <_tristanmike> callie: where are you? USA? [06:39] UK [06:40] why do you as tristanmike ? [06:40] just so I get to the right Gigabyte homepage for the bios files etc. [06:41] so I can stalk you.... === McScruff [n=mcscruff@cpc3-folk1-3-0-cust141.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Chairman_Wow [n=Chairman@213-202-172-178.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] lol [06:43] i've found some bios files already, i guess i just put them on a floppy and boot? === _asraniel [n=asraniel@190.38.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] callie: you _must_ use the offical files and tool to do it, using anything else may result in errors [06:44] and when I say "_must_" i _must_ really emphasise that [06:44] these are from gigabyte [06:44] cool [06:44] lemme see, are you from the usa? [06:44] or NA for that matter [06:44] UK [06:45] see, things are different over there than here, I'm in Canada [06:45] < UK [06:45] :D === bbeck [n=bbeck@12-201-93-110.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:47] i'll brb [06:47] callie: you went here to get the files? http://uk.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-6WMMC7.htm? [06:48] how do i install autpackage ? [06:48] its not in any repo [06:49] !autopackage [06:49] well, autopackage is evil [06:49] good ubotu [06:49] !botsnack [06:49] :) === callie [n=callie@host86-129-71-238.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] hey tristanmike sorry bout that [06:51] callie: no probs at all :) [06:51] http://uk.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-6WMMC7.htm ? === nicky [n=nicky@n219078123208.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] callie: did you go there to get the bios? [06:51] yeah [06:52] callie: and you used Qflash? [06:52] i got the F8 bios [06:52] qflash? explain [06:53] sorry this is kinda new territory for me [06:53] no need to be sorry my friend [06:53] http://uk.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Support/BIOS/HowToReflash/HowToReflash_1.htm [06:54] callie: did you follow these instructions? === jol [n=jol@put92-2-82-66-41-102.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === noteventime [n=tilo@h192n5c1o291.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:55] one sec [06:56] i havent got that far all i've got is a file, and .exe and thats it === hass [n=david@eu83-213-214-167.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #kubuntu [06:59] s/and/an [07:02] callie: can we step back for one sec, how did you flash the bios? [07:02] using the jumpers tristanmike [07:03] lol NA [07:03] sorry i was just scrolling up [07:03] :p === _anne [n=anne@host-85-27-48-218.brutele.be] has joined #kubuntu === _anne [n=anne@host-85-27-48-218.brutele.be] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:03] im in the NA [07:03] sorta [07:04] i dont practice... [07:04] :( [07:04] callie: ahhh, I see [07:05] callie: so you had a mobo with a password on the bios, had no "errors" or "problems" per se, so you used the jumpers to try and clear the bios and now you get a cmos checksum error? am i right? [07:05] exactly tristanmike === _yann [n=yann@bgn92-4-82-238-212-83.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:07] ahhh [07:07] what jumpers did you use? how did you go about it? [07:09] Found the little table on the board which tells you the jumper setting and JP number, in this case 13, with the machine off i then moved the jumper over into the flash position, left it for 30 seconds and the replaced it to the original postion before powering back up [07:10] Damn! my g/f is here, i shall have to continue this some other time [07:10] thanks though tristanmike i'm sure i'll be back soon to pick your brains if thats ok? [07:10] ok, quick question [07:10] yeah? [07:10] did you use a brand new fresh battery when you swapped [07:11] its not that new, but then not that old either [07:11] less that a year old === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:11] follow these instructions http://uk.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Support/BIOS/HowToReflash/HowToReflash_1.htm and do it from "dos" and you should be ok [07:11] when you did the jumpers, everything was unplugged and you held the power button for 10 sec's right? === pollomax [n=pollomax@201.221.131.119] has joined #kubuntu === Eruantalon [n=hans@56344E27.rev.stofanet.dk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:12] the power was still connected i think [07:12] i thought it was supposed to be [07:12] ah [07:12] damn [07:12] #kubuntu/es [07:14] join chanel kubuntu-es === wincide [n=WeReTheC@165.Red-83-33-169.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] pollomax: /join #kubuntu-es === wincide [n=WeReTheC@165.Red-83-33-169.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["AaaAaArrghh!"] === stefano [n=stefano@85-18-14-3.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] callie: NEVER play with jumpers with the power plugged in, and with out releasing the "flea power" by holding the pwr button for 10 sec after unplugging it [07:16] callie: good luck === wu_nex [n=wu_nex@M260P012.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu === MetaMorfoziS [n=sajt@dsl5402AFEA.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu [07:17] how download automatix [07:17] !automatix [07:17] automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation. [07:19] !easyubuntu [07:19] easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu === h1dd3nh4xx0r [n=h1dd3nh4@c-58ce70d5.28-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [07:20] pollomax: Your better of with easyubuntu [07:21] Ennu mer svenskar? :) === jol [n=jol@put92-2-82-66-41-102.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:23] Does someone know a good database manager that works with mysql === bigfun [n=bigfun@anh178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === kubby510 [n=bbarker@adsl-69-105-44-140.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === tanubis [n=tanubis@69.156.2.253] has joined #kubuntu [07:30] Anyone know how to get samba working properly? === patrick_ [n=patrick@p50924261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === patrick_ is now known as p_k === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@wisp.24.248.95.34.b2xonline.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu_ is now known as johnntirado === Chairman_Wow [n=Chairman@213-202-172-178.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [07:37] hello all [07:37] 'ello [07:37] I have been trying to learn linux [07:38] and one thing is confusing [07:38] ok, thats god :) [07:38] good* [07:38] Whats confusing you? [07:38] how do I intall software that I want to add like crossoffice [07:38] well in windows you just click [07:38] and the installer does it all [07:38] Thats one of the hardest things for a linux beginner to learn. === _nano [n=nano@p5091262C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:39] well leave it to me to ask [07:39] There are multiple ways [07:39] ok [07:39] <_nano> hi [07:39] all the web sites don't really answer my question [07:39] one, the "standard" one in debian based distros is apt-get [07:39] You probably know about that one [07:39] lol no [07:40] too green for that [07:40] You have used adept? [07:40] nope [07:40] heck Im just trying out this live kubuntu cd [07:40] How have you installed things till now? [07:40] ahhh... :) ok [07:40] well in the live cd for kubuntu the cd installes it [07:41] ok [07:41] btw thanks for the time [07:41] Well, crossover office [07:41] has a install file just like in windows [07:41] just you need to start it from the command line === reid [n=reid@adsl-1-44-165.bix.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:41] it has a file that ends in sh I think === ToyMan [n=stuq@170.215.53.24] has joined #kubuntu [07:41] yes [07:41] its a script [07:41] oh ok [07:42] so the command like is like dos [07:42] yes [07:42] is the command $ install-yadayada yad-sh [07:43] but you have to write ./ to mark that the file is in the current directory [07:43] hmmmm ok [07:43] so open a console [07:43] good start [07:43] how do I do thaty [07:43] :) i'll help you install it [07:43] well not ready for that lol [07:44] just getting ahead of myself [07:44] In the kmenu->system->konsole [07:44] ok [07:44] thanks for the start [07:44] :) [07:44] now kubuntu wont load in my litttle older computer [07:44] Do you know what root is? [07:44] root is like the head operator [07:45] admin [07:45] yes [07:45] or c:\ [07:45] both :) [07:45] yeppers [07:45] I'm reffering to the administrator [07:45] now in kubuntu there is a run command thing [07:45] yes [07:45] But its often better to use the console [07:45] so I can type the install command there right [07:45] oh ok [07:46] in the console you can see more output if there would be an error [07:46] so how do I load the konsole again [07:46] in the console you just have to run the sh file [07:46] ok [07:46] just specify the path === FaTBaT [n=FaTBaT@87.252.230.24] has joined #kubuntu === tid-wave [n=ovidiu@82.76.187.13] has joined #kubuntu [07:47] like /home/me/install-crossoveroffice.sh [07:47] Do you know what debian is? [07:47] ok [07:47] no sorry I have heard of it [07:47] lol man I need to get a book huh [07:47] Ubuntu is based in debian, its another linux ditro [07:48] jhonntirado: not really, you learn if you use :) [07:48] lol well Im willing [07:48] johnntirado: no book is needed, just time, just like windows when you first started [07:48] gotcha [07:49] heck I remember spending nights with windows and dos [07:49] hehe [07:49] my first computer had a 20meg hd [07:49] then you should slide in easily [07:49] the first thing you should learn is how to use apt-get and adept [07:49] ok [07:49] where do I type that command [07:49] Its the package system used in debian based linux distros [07:50] in the console [07:50] ok lemme look around for console [07:50] sure [07:50] most things are kinda like dos [07:50] cd to change directory [07:50] what is the best way to change my login screen theme? [07:50] ok console is upp [07:50] gleesond: KDM? [07:51] good, cd - change directory [07:51] ls (ell ess) list all files in the current directory (like dir in dos) [07:51] I'm not sure, I installed ubuntu before I switched over to kubuntu so it might be GDM [07:51] is there a way to find out [07:52] gleesond: what's the login you have now? Ubuntu or Kubuntu? [07:52] try to stop kdm and you will see [07:52] kubuntu [07:52] how do I list my directorys in konsole [07:52] ls [07:52] like /dir [07:52] in dos [07:52] ls (ell ess) list all files in the current directory (like dir in dos) [07:52] gleesond: meaning, when you log in, the logon screen says Kubuntu? [07:53] yeah [07:53] gleesond: then you [07:53] *'re running kdm [07:53] then you need to install kdm theme manager [07:53] ok is there a pkg name [07:53] ok [07:53] or is it just kdm theme manager [07:53] cp file dest - copies a file [07:54] mv file dest - moves a file [07:54] rm file - removes a file [07:54] good lesson [07:54] :) [07:54] like unix commands [07:54] gleesond: I'm not sure [07:54] ok thannks [07:54] johnntirado: exavtly [07:55] noteventime thanks for the lesson [07:55] np :) [07:55] I will be back in a bit [07:55] sure === blackflag [n=blackfla@212.144.239.86] has joined #kubuntu === gleesond [i=devong@ceti.cs.pdx.edu] has joined #kubuntu [07:58] hello all [07:58] I want to fax with openoffice [07:59] in the document are jpeg's [07:59] when I try to save as txt then the jpegs are gone [07:59] Do faxes still exist :P [07:59] how can I fax such documents [08:00] I have a lan with hylafax [08:00] and when I try to sent with kdesendfax it cant send the odt file [08:00] Maybe convert the file? [08:01] How can I fax scanned documents? [08:01] Use ocr in kooka [08:01] convert? what for a format? [08:01] to convert the [08:01] image to text [08:01] I dont know which formats ksendfax supports [08:02] ok [08:02] ksendfax only supports text files [08:02] then the best way is OCR ? [08:02] I would say so [08:03] Do you know hoe to use ocs in kooka? [08:03] no, its the first time then to use OCR [08:03] you have some tips? === Snake__ [n=snake@adsl-65-43-232-224.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:04] Acyualy no, i've only used it once :) [08:04] okay thanks for help I will try it! [08:05] :) sorry for not being able to provide more comprahensive help [08:05] comprehensive* === vicks [n=chatzill@c-dd8870d5.037-42-67626719.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [08:07] hejsan === clowder [n=daniel@227.Red-217-125-37.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === patwack [n=paddy@cpc2-blfs2-0-0-cust120.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === bigfun is now known as bigfun_afk === bigfun_afk is now known as bigfun === jerware [n=jerware@156.12.172.81] has joined #kubuntu === hibatsu [n=hibatsu@171.30.78.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu [08:23] hi [08:24] can anyone help me with dapper? [08:24] maybe [08:25] I don't have any sound in amarok when trying to play an mp3 === mluser-home [n=mluser@ip68-0-79-59.tu.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:25] neither with xine nor the arts plugin [08:25] and I installed the w32codecs [08:25] Hello.. where can I get information on the format for the /etc/network/interfaces file? [08:26] mluser-home: man:/interfaces [08:26] jpatrick: thanks :) [08:26] hibatsu: you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad to enable mp3 playback [08:26] !mp3 [08:26] Winamp 5.13 Stopped [08:26] I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [08:27] you need gstreamer-mad [08:27] Ops, tristanmike is right gstreamer0.8-mad === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:28] ok, thanks === honesty [n=honesty@cpe-065-191-078-152.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-151.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] Can someone give me the dapper testing channel because I am having problems installing it - something like ALERT! /dev/ram does not exist [08:32] there is a dapper testing channel? [08:32] #ubuntu-dapper maybe? [08:32] !dapper [08:33] I'm trying a few comoinations [08:33] #ubuntu+1 [08:33] #ubuntu+1 [08:33] w [08:33] ahh [08:35] thx === tomas_ [n=tomas@81-234-92-64-no91.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:37] everything is been fine here? [08:37] hi everyone [08:37] 'ello [08:37] moin === m0ns00n [n=m0ns00n@213.167.96.196] has joined #kubuntu [08:37] hejsan igen :D [08:37] hehe :P [08:38] innan jag borjar tigga hjalp :P [08:38] so ska jag stalla en annan typ av fraga :P [08:38] var i sverige finns du noteventime :)? [08:38] I've already installed gstramer0.8-mad but I can't select it in the engines in amarok [08:39] saj inte stockholm bara :p [08:39] Nre rebro [08:39] jaja :p [08:39] det ar val okej da ;) [08:39] hibatsu: also install amarok-gstreamer [08:39] sjalv so bor man nere i halland :) [08:39] langt ifran stockholm :D [08:39] Nra rebro, I en liten smstad :P [08:39] there is no such package [08:39] in dapper [08:40] tomas_: stop, use english tack, jag tycker inte om sverige hr [08:40] noteventime: kanner du till nagon bugg som gor att det inte hjalper att stalla in svenskt tangenbord? jag har fortfarande inga svenska tecken :/ [08:40] Kr du XGL? [08:40] Sorry [08:40] You'r not using XGL are you? [08:40] that sounds much better ;) [08:41] !se [08:41] What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime [08:41] so, liebst to die deutsche sprache TM_T :p ? [08:41] du === jol [n=jol@put92-2-82-66-41-102.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:41] just kidding :p [08:41] Haha, kans du auch deutch? [08:41] sicher [08:41] nur wenig deutsch :p [08:41] thats my favourite line :p [08:41] haha [08:41] !de [08:41] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de [08:41] du bisst ein elch ist auch gut [08:41] yeahyeah :p [08:42] i guess english will have to do :) [08:42] sure [08:42] anyway [08:42] a WE-HATE-SWEDISH-KEYBOARD-BUG [08:42] do you know anything about that? [08:42] Wieso ist da en Deutcher kanal und kein shwedisher? [08:42] tomas_: ... [08:42] es ist diskrimerung or something :p [08:42] Hmmm nice work of spelling that was :P [08:43] i know :p [08:43] but [08:43] guys, please ;( [08:43] to my real questions [08:43] are all windows controlled by x? [08:43] tomas_: what you mean by that? [08:43] By kwin if your using kde [08:43] <_b> what bug ? [08:43] i would like to have a command that closes an active windows [08:43] [08:43] [08:43] so i can use it in perlbox voice :P [08:43] like COMPUTER: Close window :P === tibal [n=tibal@sac91-1.tibal.info] has joined #kubuntu [08:44] tomas_: hmm, maybe kwin have dcop call [08:44] tomas_: if you use KDE === Donvinzk [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:44] kwin has a dcop im pretty sure === chris [n=chris@i5387ECB8.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [08:44] Tm_T: i dont think that I found such === kitsch [n=jin@84-217-175-88.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:45] but hasnt X control over all windows? [08:45] like some window buffer or something :p [08:45] Should have anyway [08:45] have anyone of you tried perlbox voice? [08:47] noteventime: yup, but looks like dcop of kwin is very limited [08:47] Nope [08:47] Ok [08:47] its so nice :p [08:47] What is it? [08:47] http://perlbox.org/pbtk/ === frojnd [n=wildchil@BSN-77-169-220.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:47] its a speech recognition think [08:47] hehe [08:47] you can program words [08:48] sounds cool [08:48] like Shutdown :p [08:48] or Give me da music :P [08:48] <_b> voice is usless imo [08:48] voice is funny :p [08:48] and its healthy :P [08:48] for your arms :p [08:48] <_b> your throut gets sore long before fingers ! :P [08:48] no :p [08:48] im talking so much anyway ;) [08:48] You have that kind of functionality in opera [08:49] X) Dont you hate it when you get segmention faults [08:50] tomas_: Have you tried xgl? [08:50] noteventime: no, what is it really? something about opengl? [08:50] OpenGl accelerated X [08:51] benefits? [08:51] faster X? [08:51] hotter GPU :p ? [08:51] less for gaming? [08:51] faster X less CPU used [08:51] :p [08:51] :p [08:51] and COOOOOL effects :D [08:51] how :p [08:51] tell me :p [08:51] how :p [08:51] :p [08:51] take a look at the video [08:52] http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi [08:52] :p === Donvinzk [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:52] What GPU are you using? [08:52] xgl is only gtk, isn't it? [08:52] NVIDIA 5900 XT [08:52] no [08:52] Yes! [08:52] tomas_: Nice for you [08:52] CANT WATCH IT : [08:52] :" [08:52] i gonna do a reboot [08:52] see ya [08:52] shortly [08:53] : [08:53] ) === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu === _hupp3l [n=hupp3l@pool-71-254-175-188.lsanca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:53] hibatsu: xgl is simply xserver using the GPU [08:53] re apokryphos [08:53] Or not simple but basicly [08:55] jpatrick: hey, how's it going? :) === tomas_ [n=tomas@81-234-92-64-no91.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:55] no good - ran out of hdd space [08:55] : [08:55] WHERE IS MY SWEDISH KEYBOARD!!! [08:56] Have you taken a look in the xorg.conf? [08:56] me? [08:56] yes :) [08:56] and can you give me the link again please [08:56] http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi [08:56] tomas_: dont yell here [08:56] sorry [08:57] i just get so mad when the system tell me its working but its not [08:57] !pastebin [08:57] I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :) [08:57] i know about pastebin [08:57] havent so much to paste yet [08:58] expect some furniture soon :Xp: [08:58] ? [08:58] I needed the link :) [08:58] tomas_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9311 [08:58] =? === lampshade [n=mrw@69-23-135-209.cable.inebraska.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:58] aha [08:58] you mean that i should post my config? [08:58] no [08:58] i posted mine [08:59] aha [08:59] just the keyboard part :) [08:59] moki [08:59] i will compare it [08:59] Is there a way to set what key combo (default is ctrl+tab) makes me switch desktops? The ctrl+tab default is messing me up when I use programs like gaim and firefox where I want to ctrl+tab through my tabbed windows [08:59] Takea look [08:59] lampshade: khotkey? [08:59] khotkeys [08:59] noteventime: its identical [08:59] khotkey? I didn't see anything like that. Perhaps I don't have it installed. [08:59] lampshade: systemsettings has keyboard section [09:00] tomas_: hmmm [09:00] ok, this is stupid, but how do I get to system settings [09:00] I am lost on KDE [09:00] main menu :) [09:00] lampshade: you do find Kmenu? [09:00] K menu -> system settings [09:00] :p [09:00] noteventime: Now I even can't play a shitty movie [09:01] I click the Kmen --> and then I have settings or system not a system settings, though? === Snake__ [n=snake@adsl-65-43-232-224.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] noteventime: mpeg works :/ [09:01] perhaps I'm missing an app [09:01] or several === bigfun [n=bigfun@anh178.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["yupikajey"] [09:01] i'll try mplayer [09:02] tomas_: Its xvid [09:02] noteventime: i know, and it doesnt works in kaffeine, i'll try mplayer [09:03] tomas_: Do you have xvid installed? [09:03] isnt it a part of w32codecs? [09:03] oh I didn't have systemsettings installed [09:03] I thinks that's whys === kylev [n=kylev@fett.beeker.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] tomas_: There is a gstreamer one [09:04] I'LL REMOVE W32codecs [09:04] oki [09:04] great [09:04] first im going to remove this crap [09:04] gstreamer for amarok was removed right? [09:04] adept-update has become worthless to me :( [09:05] I installed the pile of updates for 5.10, rebooted === xChomp [n=xchomp@e180026253.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu === Donvinzk [n=vincent@190.43.101-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:05] and now starting adept-update tells me "You need to run this application as root to make make any use of it." [09:05] (doubled="make" not a typo) [09:05] do you get a sudoers error? [09:05] that you are not in the sudoers file or something? [09:06] nah, I can fire up a shell and try running adept-updater from sudo directly [09:06] oki [09:06] then i dont know :/ [09:06] or "sudo su" [09:06] or "sudo bash" [09:06] :/ im having the same problem with adept, I can't run it through kdesu [09:07] i have no problems with it [09:07] i may have done some insecure thing [09:07] are there any non-graphical updaters that I can check for updates? [09:07] does your system settings have an entry on the keyboard for switching desktops? There is no entry on mine to change? I'm just curious. [09:07] i added myself to the sudoers file === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@CPE0015e91a5c3d-CM0f0079804818.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:07] but i guess that was another error [09:07] well, my user is in the admin group, which is in /etc/sudoers [09:08] sudo is running fine [09:08] but something is dropping privs, or adept is mi-detecting uid [09:08] noteventime: help me :'( [09:08] tomas_: ok [09:08] or maybe some file perm is borked, and adept thinks that failing to opena file means it isn't root... === kylev theorizes wildly [09:09] tomas_: I missed your problem though [09:09] noteventime: i cant get anything to play [09:09] noteventime: i installed a package for xvid [09:09] tolled?mas_: have you got gstreamer insta [09:09] -but it doesnt work [09:09] ok [09:09] YES [09:09] I'll try it out myself [09:09] doso [09:09] btw [09:09] ? [09:09] i can only select one engine in kaffeine :/ [09:10] Me too [09:10] But i think there is a xine plugin [09:10] i have that :/ [09:11] :( OMG 30mb/s [09:11] kb [09:11] :P [09:11] i know [09:11] its VERY SLOW [09:11] streaming is easier [09:11] noteventime: can you play most videos? === TecnoVM64 [n=tecnovm@unaffiliated/tecnovm64] has joined #kubuntu [09:12] I havn't played that many to be honest [09:12] noteventime: i mean, do you have w32codecs? [09:12] oh [09:12] oki [09:12] Yes i have w32codecs [09:12] from where did you get it? [09:12] PLF [09:12] PLF? [09:12] penguin liberation front :p ? [09:13] yes [09:13] :xp: [09:13] oki [09:13] hehe [09:13] im trying the video now [09:13] hmmm.... [09:13] I'm not getting any image :) === kylev tries another fresh install === brodel [n=brodel@pool-70-16-230-211.rich.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:14] fucking lame [09:14] ah [09:14] noteventime: thank you :) [09:14] anyway :p [09:14] Yep? [09:14] can you try to figure out why my keyboard doesnt work :p [09:14] I'm trying ;) [09:14] this never happens in Fedora === kylev ducks :-) [09:15] <_hupp3l> WTF is xlib6g? [09:15] no but fedora sucks :p === noteventime throws a tomato [09:15] :p [09:15] <_hupp3l> im having alot of dependecy problems :( [09:15] <_hupp3l> can someone please help me [09:15] sure [09:15] fedora is just a thing red hat throwed away *-) [09:15] the inability to install updates kind of puts a damper on my "kubuntu experience" [09:15] :-P [09:15] _hupp3l: Are you running dapper? [09:16] anyone going to buy ps3? [09:16] <_hupp3l> yes [09:16] <_hupp3l> and yes [09:16] :p [09:16] great hupp3l :D [09:16] I'm not [09:16] why :p === robotgeek [n=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu [09:17] <_hupp3l> ah boo [09:17] dont tell me that you have bought crappy360 [09:17] _hupp3l: Are you running dapper [09:17] Nope [09:17] <_hupp3l> yes I am noteventime [09:17] I've bought none [09:17] <_hupp3l> dapper 3 [09:17] <_hupp3l> flight 3 [09:17] what security measures would you prefer after a kubuntu linux installation? i have a fresh installed kubuntu linux installation here on my machine [09:17] its okay noteventime :p. as long as you dont support msoft ;) [09:17] _hupp3l: i'll send you my sources.list [09:17] and you can see if you miss one of the repos [09:18] I barely play games so it's not worth the money [09:18] <_hupp3l> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9312 [09:18] xChomp: a default install won't have any remotely connectable services so should be fine [09:18] <_b> expensive titles [09:18] ps3 will be 600$ :D [09:18] <_hupp3l> but I uncommented the main dapper reposes in the meanwhile and I commented out the vlc ones [09:18] <_b> aaah [09:18] seaLne: ok, thanks for the info :) [09:19] kylev: any problems? [09:19] noteventime: my ass, its speculation. it may be but none knows yet [09:19] Tm_T: I'm re-doing the install [09:19] tomas_: :D [09:19] Tm_T: maybe it'll not suck this time [09:20] kylev: ok, just try to keep your language clean ;) [09:20] haha :p [09:20] _hupp3l: Doesn't look bad :/ [09:20] COMPUTER: terminal :P [09:20] this is fun :p [09:20] <_b> in the console world its allways rumors etc ! [09:20] <_hupp3l> yeah I dont understand why im having these dependency problems [09:20] I don't even play computer games anymore [09:20] <_hupp3l> would you like to see the pastebin of the error? [09:20] noteventime: :/ [09:20] Tm_T: no promises, but I won't curse unreasonably :-) [09:20] <_hupp3l> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9312 [09:20] kylev: and I won't kick unreasonably [09:21] ;) [09:21] _hupp3l: Looks good :/ [09:21] excellent [09:21] heh Tm_T :) [09:21] _hupp3l: i'll paste mine [09:21] <_hupp3l> ok thanx [09:21] how can I make the links open with firefox instead of konqueror? [09:21] robotgeek: yuh, bad day here ;( [09:21] KControl [09:21] robotgeek: and hi to you too =) [09:21] Tm_T: why so? [09:21] brodel: KControl [09:22] robotgeek: women... [09:22] robotgeek: actually just one ;) [09:22] Tm_T: hah, this is a linux only support channel :) [09:22] Tm_T: that means you're 1 woman up on most of the poeple here [09:22] brodel: KControl > KDE-Components ( i guess) - Components [09:23] oh :p [09:23] (myself included) [09:23] kylev: ssssh, don't depress me mate [09:23] do we have a woman here? [09:23] _hupp3l: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9314 [09:23] <_hupp3l> can I just copy yours over mine? [09:23] kylev: bad assuming ;) [09:23] The last time i played a computer game was 1 week ago and that was the beta off DDO [09:23] robotgeek: indeed [09:24] btw :p [09:24] do not forget to download dosbox :p [09:24] and winter :p [09:24] and lotus :p [09:24] ahh, thanks === hDp` [n=headup@abo-0-249.modems.semnet.tm.fr] has joined #kubuntu [09:24] and all those nice games :p [09:24] dont forget lemmings :p [09:24] and lost vikings :p === DocTomoe [n=martin@p54A81FAC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:24] and jones in the fast lane :D [09:24] tomas_: ahh.. that did it. Thanks. [09:24] The only thing you need for hardcore gaming is scummvm :D [09:24] :) [09:24] <_hupp3l> noteventime: can I just copy your repos over mine? === pulver [n=root@c-451e70d5.019-10-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [09:25] scummvm :p [09:25] _hupp3l: how do you mean? [09:25] CP SOURCES.LIST :o [09:25] my sound just ceased to work under dapper - without updating anything. any ideas what to do? [09:25] sorry guys :xp: [09:25] <_hupp3l> like delete my repos in my sources.list file and copy in yours? [09:25] im a little high tonight :p [09:25] You should be able to, but you would get the swedish mirrors === Ahmuck [n=chatzill@24.225.23.76] has left #kubuntu [] === tomas_ -) === comptoyou [n=airplane@adsl-70-233-158-142.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:26] tomas_: dont tell me you havn't played monkey island? [09:26] just change se to your countries prefix [09:26] <_hupp3l> hmm I dont think that would matter too much [09:26] noteventime: i have :p [09:26] noteventime: 1-3 [09:26] and the 3d one too [09:26] how do I install crossover in ubuntu ? [09:26] i like 3 the most :p [09:26] nice [09:26] doesnt crossover cost? [09:26] same here [09:26] yup [09:27] hehe [09:27] noteventime: a pirate i was meant to be. trim the sails and roam the sea :p [09:27] depends :D === kylev watches boot, hopes [09:27] tomas_: This is just ridiculus [09:27] noteventime :p [09:27] i have the song somewhere :p [09:27] tomas_: I have that one [09:27] :p [09:27] tomas_: I have 7:45 minutes of monkey island music XD [09:28] 7h 45 min [09:28] noteventime: noooooooooooo :gonk: lycko dig :p [09:28] How can I get gstreamer to work in amarok in dapper? === mister_roboto [n=roboto@216-80-50-65.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:28] www.scummbar.com [09:28] activate universe [09:28] and then install gstreamer-mad [09:28] already happened [09:28] and w32codecs [09:29] and ffmpeg installed [09:29] tomas_: 295 lster, kan laddas ner frn www.scummbar.com [09:29] ltar* [09:29] but I can't select the gstreamer-engine [09:29] noteventime: :D [09:29] in the amarok menu [09:29] tomas_: The problem is you have to download them one by one XD [09:29] hey! [09:29] noteventime: i can play mp3s in mplayer :p [09:29] nice [09:30] not in amaroK? [09:30] noteventime: but not in amarok or kaffeine :p [09:30] you have gstreamer-mad [09:30] tomas_: install amarok-xine [09:30] gstreamer0.8-mad to use the gstreamer engine [09:30] mm [09:30] i better remove it? [09:30] It works for me :) [09:30] huh? [09:30] oki === louis_ [n=louis@modemcable145.80-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [09:32] Lets see how big they are gzipped [09:32] Hello [09:32] I have this:http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30780 [09:32] and i want to install it [09:32] still it doesnt work :/ [09:32] just in mplayer :/ [09:32] but in the KDM, when i browse to add a theme, it doesn't want to install [09:32] noteventime: have you hear Puff The Magic Dragon :p ? [09:33] You are not supposed to extract the files louis_ [09:33] oh [09:33] tomas_: MI song? [09:33] louis_: edit your /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc [09:33] hey! did a kubuntu server install to get encrypted ROOT.. it works in breezy but after upgrade to dapper i get devfs errors at boot. suspect the line '#kopt=root=/dev/mapper/root devfs=mount ro' in /boot/grub/menu.lst. any ideas how to make it right? im no guru... [09:33] noteventime: MI? [09:33] monkey island [09:33] pulver, then use ubuntu! === Hahn [n=christia@85.31.48.65] has joined #kubuntu [09:33] for a server install, that's the same thing === comptoyou [n=airplane@adsl-70-233-158-142.dsl.okcyok.sbcglobal.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:34] noteventime: no :p [09:34] noteventime: puff the magic dragon lived by the sea :p [09:34] no :D [09:34] noteventime: awesome song :p [09:34] louis_: the encryption problem is not ubuntu specific, so whats your point [09:34] noteventime: herm. :/ it doesn't find the configuration file [09:34] noteventime: oh puff the magic dragon :p [09:35] pulver: my point is: why using Kubuntu, with a bit less support then Ubuntu, if you run only console mode === gamma [n=gamma@192.237.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === tomas_ is now known as tomas_tryingtoge === tomas_tryingtoge is now known as tomplast_mekar [09:35] louis_: cause kde > gnome :) === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-048.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:35] robotgeek , i know [09:36] but in console only (server), what's the difference? [09:36] louis_: well was just asking if someone had experienced the same thing and had any ideas. never mind i'll figure it out..eventually [09:36] louis_: yeah, no difference [09:36] tomas_: Accept the transfer :) [09:36] heh :) === roconnor [n=roconnor@i129246.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [09:36] noteventime , it says that it don't find the config file :/ === glroig [n=gerardo@73-187-89-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #kubuntu [09:37] aha you can send files :p === glroig [n=gerardo@73-187-89-200.fibertel.com.ar] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:37] slow speed :p === tomplast_mekar is now known as tomas_ [09:38] do you have msn noteventime? [09:38] Yes [09:38] can i have yours? [09:38] noteventime@gmail.com [09:38] :) [09:39] Wel try there instead XD [09:39] Was way to slow [09:40] spaceprogrammer? [09:40] ^^ === root______ [n=root@CPE0050f2cf3b77-CM0011e6ee0a42.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === root______ is now known as seg-fault [09:41] it is not wise to surf as root [09:41] :) === tomas_ is now known as tomplast_away [09:42] I know I'm currently in Single user mode... Having issues with my Dlink wireless and Dapper === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-91.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:43] does anyone have/know a pack to transform my Kubuntu into MacOsX look? [09:43] Interesting issue. Kernel picks up wlan0 card ..but the link light only lights up during initialization. === rysiek [n=rysiek@213-238-69-17.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #kubuntu [09:44] louis_ use baghira [09:44] what is this? [09:45] A theme === Chairman_Wow [n=Chairman@213-202-172-178.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #kubuntu === louise [n=louise@83.209.34.112] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] Or rather a pack of themes [09:45] oh [09:45] Do you know how o change themes? [09:46] yeah :) === Snake__ is now known as Snake|Mall [09:46] i just had trouble with kdm ;/ [09:46] and still [09:47] Do you habe theme KDM manager installed [09:47] The channel is a bit more calm now [09:48] yeah [09:48] oh [09:48] is it installed in kubuntu? [09:48] by default === louise is now known as _louise === _louise is now known as louise [09:50] hum [09:50] noteventime, will baghira replace kde? [09:51] ... and I crashed adept === _louise [n=louise@83.209.34.112] has joined #kubuntu === Chairman_Wow [n=Chairman@213-202-172-178.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:53] lous_: sorry im back now, no [09:53] ;p [09:53] lous_: Its only a KDM theme [09:53] k [09:53] search baghira in adept === NRG88 [n=nrg88@86.126.206.35] has joined #kubuntu [09:55] when i try to play a dvd, it appears on only half a screen, even in fullscreen mode in mplayer [09:55] why? :( [09:57] NRG88: What player? [09:57] mplayer [09:57] NRG88: choose another video outpu [09:58] t [09:58] noteventime , thanks [09:58] and other thing [09:58] NRG88: xv [09:58] sure [09:58] wait* [09:58] I vill :) [09:58] :P okay ;) === tomplast_away is now known as tomas_ === tomas_ is now known as tomplast === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu === HymnToLife [n=_mfb@dyn-213-36-160-217.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@72-254-140-8.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu === syl [n=dima@85.236.161.66] has joined #kubuntu [10:01] NRG88: does it work? [10:01] nah, now its enough of this for today. bye everyone. goodnight in some hours [10:02] 1 min [10:02] bye === hugelmopf is now known as _hugelmopf === _hugelmopf is now known as hugelmopf_ === AudioMove [n=cathal@83.167.252.16] has joined #kubuntu [10:03] strange, the dvd doesn't mount === asraniel [n=asraniel@190.38.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu === dirk_ [n=dirk@ck399499-a.dokku1.fr.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:03] hey [10:03] 'ello === hugelmopf_ is now known as hugelmopf [10:04] i need some help [10:04] Just ask :D === Niekie [n=Niekie@niekie/unaffiliated] has joined #kubuntu [10:05] noteventime , do you read french? [10:05] one harddisk(my data harddisk to switch files with windows) doesnt work [10:05] louis_: Just very very very very little :P [10:05] ok [10:05] i'll make a screenshot for you of the problem with my kdm [10:05] dirk_, more details? [10:05] dirk_: you can get the files directly from the windows disk [10:05] can someone help me get hotplug working? [10:06] louis_: sure [10:06] and it says Mount:can't find /dev/hdc6 in ect/fstab or ect/mtab [10:06] Then you have to add it :) [10:06] can someone tell me what files arr important for hotplug? [10:07] hi [10:07] wit what parameters? [10:07] i have kubuntu 5.10 and hibernate dont work [10:08] it say in log [10:08] hibernate: [10] Executing EnsureSwsusp2Capable ... [10:08] Your kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in. [10:08] (im using dapper drake flight 4) === ciga [n=ciga@82-77-103-20.cable-modem.hdsnet.hu] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] hi [10:09] :) [10:09] what parameters do i have to ad? [10:09] hugelmopf, [10:09] thanks, it works === dirk_ listens MF Doom-Potholderz feat. Count Bass D [10:10] I try to compile amarok from trunk on breezy with kde 3.5.1. It fails with an errors: threadweaver.h:101: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of QMutex with no type [10:10] anyone can help me with this? [10:11] some one please help! [10:11] noteventime , notice me your e-mail please === ClayG [n=claygucc@c-66-177-234-195.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:11] <_b> is there a way to list a unknow drive partions like xp diskmanager ? === dirk_ is now known as Metalface [10:12] ? === Metalface is now known as dirk_ [10:13] some one please help? [10:13] noteventime :) [10:13] back [10:13] sorrt === joerg [n=joerg@d066116.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #kubuntu === Hahn [n=christia@85.31.48.65] has left #kubuntu [] [10:15] :) [10:15] notice me your e-mail please [10:15] i'll send ya the screenshot [10:15] !pastebin [10:15] it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :) [10:15] you use that -^ [10:16] well! [10:16] nice [10:16] :)) [10:16] <_hupp3l> noteventime: I still cant get vlc to install [10:17] hmmm [10:17] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9319 [10:18] traduction: "Impossible to load theme's configuration file." === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.134.119] has joined #kubuntu [10:19] hmmm, i actualy could read that :D [10:19] ;) [10:20] hmm... [10:20] I'll take a look at the theme === ss [n=ss@host86-129-219-6.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:20] k === irvken [n=sean@82-45-13-249.cable.ubr01.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:21] It works for me [10:21] huh o_O [10:21] just enter http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=30780&id=1&PHPSESSID=f67edaeb58f934613736d43df09cd74e in the location === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu [10:21] It will download and install automaticly [10:21] oh [10:21] ok :L) [10:21] -L === chris_wk [n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no] has joined #kubuntu [10:22] Works better now? [10:22] i'll try [10:23] it's laggy because i'm installing limewire === ss [n=ss@host86-129-219-6.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:23] why not frostwire === margouyab [n=yanawill@2.94.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:25] same error, n === Glin|Jol [i=bobo@cpe-24-90-132-254.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:25] :~( hmmm [10:25] ;/ [10:25] Thats strange [10:25] yay [10:25] + [10:25] ? [10:25] ? [10:26] yay? [10:26] Was it just ment as yes? [10:26] or was it yay! as in yes it worked? [10:26] it was in yes, to agree that it's strange [10:27] omg [10:27] and limewire doesn't want to start ;/ [10:27] try frostwire [10:27] i installed limewire with alien [10:28] how i uninstall it? === avdi [n=avdi@216.108.203.126] has joined #kubuntu [10:29] i have no idea dpkg --purge limewire? [10:29] i'll try [10:29] just apt-get remove limewire-free worked ;) [10:30] nice [10:31] and where i find this "frostwire?" [10:31] google ;) [10:31] www.frostwire.com === zblach [n=zblach@Toronto-HSE-ppp3726494.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === tanghus [n=tol@0x535c8e66.boanxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu === _michael [n=michael@201-106.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _michael is now known as __mikem [10:37] where be brenden [10:38] <__mikem> is it posible to use screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 in kde [10:38] yep === livebox [n=livebox@81-235-191-246-no48.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:38] i'm running at 1440x900 [10:38] <__mikem> I tried running kubuntu under vmware, and for the life of me couldn't get it to go higher than 1024x768 [10:38] need help setting it higher [10:39] gotta configure the xorg [10:39] <__mikem> I did that [10:39] and. [10:39] <__mikem> nothing happened [10:39] did you restart X [10:39] <__mikem> yes === victor [n=victor@85-53-93-65.mad1.adsl.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu === victor [n=victor@85-53-93-65.mad1.adsl.uni2.es] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:40] <__mikem> does it matter that it was running under vmware [10:40] to be honest I don't even know what vmware is [10:40] <__mikem> www.vmware.com [10:41] so it's like virtual machine [10:41] me, i have an ati radeon 7000 with dual screen output, and i don't know how to activate the 2nd screen [10:41] Mrono it's [10:41] <__mikem> thats exactly what it is === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [10:41] louis_: I think you should use fglrx [10:41] I have an ati radon 9000 and I can't get the opengl or 3d acceleartion to work [10:41] __mikem: what driver do you use for xorg? [10:41] <__mikem> the funny thing is I also have ubuntu (gnome based) running on another virtual machine and I can but that at what ever res I want === dragonkh [n=kings@dr4g0nn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [10:42] ubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing [10:42] just different window managers [10:42] ;) ok [10:42] I think mvware mught not allow access to the frame buffer [10:42] hi [10:42] KDM and GDM [10:42] <__mikem> Mrono I know thats what befuddles me [10:42] not sure [10:42] __mikem: prolly cos you are running ubuntu without vmware, right? [10:42] ciga: , it's installing! [10:42] thanks [10:42] hobbsee [10:42] how do I remove the first entry in an array? [10:42] you here [10:42] <__mikem> I have both running under vmware [10:42] pop ? [10:43] dragonkh: pop is the last, does not it? [10:43] shift [10:43] I think works === livebox [n=livebox@81-235-191-246-no48.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] <__mikem> ??????????? [10:44] __mikem: maybe you need to copy the good xorg.conf to the one that is in vmware [10:44] adept seems to crash on the unzip update... [10:44] <_b> !ntfs [10:44] I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions [10:44] __mikem: of course the one that was worked right inside vmware. [10:44] <__mikem> Problem is I am not sure how to do that, don't worry about it for now, Ill live with it === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-24-5-49-160.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:46] <__mikem> !wine [10:46] ciga [10:46] i have 1 tv output and 2 screen outputs. [10:48] is there any way to mount an ntfs filesytstem as write [10:48] hey mike [10:48] yeh [10:48] google it, i found something yesterday [10:48] I have a working wine repository [10:48] if ya want it [10:49] deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ [10:49] <__mikem> I already have wine, I have been trying to get rhapsody jukebox to run under it [10:49] ah [10:50] I got UT to run under it [10:50] i'm happy [10:50] lol [10:50] is it possible to convert Kubuntu into Ubuntu easy? [10:50] yep [10:50] <__mikem> I got Bejeweled 2 to run under it [10:50] install the GDM and remove the KDE [10:50] KDM [10:50] <__mikem> YOu don't need to remove kde [10:50] true [10:50] <__mikem> you can have both on the same box [10:50] <__mikem> like me [10:51] yeah you can be crazy just like __mikem ;) [10:51] just teasing [10:51] is it possible to chage the size of the linux partition easy? [10:51] <__mikem> lol [10:51] but Mrono, is it gonna be easy? [10:51] <__mikem> Yup [10:52] lol [10:52] and does all the kde shits will stay there? [10:52] configs? [10:52] I have a duek biit [10:52] and shares? icons? [10:52] duel boot winxp [10:52] <__mikem> Its as easy as opening your faorite package manager, and finding the right package [10:52] so I want to make a fat32 partition to be read by both [10:53] <__mikem> *faVorite [10:53] brb [10:53] eat [10:53] <__mikem> hb [10:53] <_hupp3l> what program can I use to show my stats and like batterylife on my desktop? [10:53] <_hupp3l> something like konfabulator or samurize? [10:53] super karamba [10:53] <__mikem> Atleast on my laptop, ubuntu already does that [10:53] ... and there goes adept again === h1dd3nh4xx0r [n=h1dd3nh4@c-58ce70d5.28-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [10:54] <_hupp3l> super karamba? [10:54] <_hupp3l> will it come with dapper? [10:54] I dont think so [10:55] There will be an equvivalent thing in KDE4 though [10:55] <__mikem> I wonder what KDE4 will be like [10:55] super cool X) [10:55] <__mikem> no doubt [10:55] _hupp3l: it is in Dapper [10:55] <__mikem> !kde [10:55] it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/ [10:56] <_hupp3l> whereunder? [10:56] <__mikem> !kde4 [10:56] it has been said that kde4 is http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@d199-126-137-168.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:58] <_b> anyone using a old 2,5 drive in usb chase here ? === h1dd3nh4xx0r [n=h1dd3nh4@c-58ce70d5.28-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === h1dd3nh4xx0r [n=h1dd3nh4@c-58ce70d5.28-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === opizi [n=opizi@213.163.122.81] has joined #kubuntu === rocafella [n=rocafell@adsl-68-92-33-147.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === h1dd3nh4xx0r [n=h1dd3nh4@c-58ce70d5.28-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [11:09] How do I change my default display manager in kubunu? I want it to start xdm on boot instead of KDM === flixor [n=flixor@ip5457002f.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] <__mikem> dpkg-reconfigure xdm === _pedro [n=pedro@218.Red-88-5-97.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] <__mikem> something like that [11:11] thanks, mikem [11:11] is there a special dapper channel [11:13] well, there's #ubuntu+1 [11:13] oke anybody overhere installed dapper === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.134.119] has joined #kubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu === C-O-L-T [i=icechat5@193.231.163.10] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] how do I disable the tap to click function on my laptop? it is getting pretty annoying === Biff` [n=biff@ip70-161-85-205.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === cadfael [n=peter@ip70-160-44-114.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:18] 'lo all, anyone around to give a noob some help? [11:18] <__mikem> only another noob [11:18] hi === admrl_ [n=admrl@24-180-218-205.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:18] ditto [11:18] Oi. [11:19] Well. I am have two problems. [11:19] First, Kubuntu seems unable to reboot the box. It just goes to sleep or something. This happened during the initial install and every time after. [11:20] Second, even tho I have all the repos enabled in Adept, I know I am not seeing the correct number of packages. === SirKillalot [n=nerd@dslb-084-056-087-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:20] See http://pastebin.com/572403 ,,, that's my sources list [11:21] <__mikem> I am considering just installing vmware on this laptop and using reactos or something === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu [11:23] I'm struggling to make my fglrx driver 8.22.5 to work on dapper. I get stuck because of a weird message "did you mean tab instead of 8 spaces" when doing module-assistant. Has anyone expercienced this? [11:23] can anyone open up adept and see how many packages you have available? I show 16886, my other kubuntu box shows ~17k [11:23] spiritz: no, sorry === jol [n=jol@put92-2-82-66-41-102.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:26] thanks anyway :) === andreas___ [n=andreas@chello212186208202.32.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu [11:28] spiritz: in a make file, you have to have tabs instead of spaces somewhere [11:29] ok [11:29] I'll have a look [11:29] how can ATI provide drivers with such a mistake?:o [11:29] It's ATI. [11:30] ;) [11:30] actually I have no idea what the module-assistant is triggering [11:31] ET merc dispo [11:32] I know nothing about graphics cards, but someone just clued me in that the Radeon that comes with this box (OEM) somehow "shares" ram with the comp [11:32] instead of having its own onboard memory, apparently, it sucks down like 128m of system ram [11:32] maybe but not mine [11:33] this is shared memory, low cost video card have such "feature"... but most of ati cards are not low cost ones [11:33] a lot of cards do that now. [11:33] I hate shared memory === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [11:33] it decreises the gfx performence [11:33] anf unfortunately I have one [11:34] which one do u have? the intel something? [11:35] ati [11:35] ati radon 9000 [11:35] ok it's a old one [11:35] which is stupid [11:35] cuz this computer is brand new [11:35] well [11:35] I m not even sure ati is providing support for this one through their drivers, right? [11:35] mabye a few months old [11:35] they should be === NRG88 re [11:37] why can't i eject a cd from the device itself? i need to rightclick and eject from linux === rocafella [n=rocafell@adsl-68-92-33-147.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu [] [11:37] NRG88: it required to be unmounted before ejecting [11:38] I hate that too NRG88 [11:38] :( [11:40] mines ejects just fine [11:41] shared ram is a stupid idea [11:41] I mean sure it's cheap [11:41] but why would I pay for a video card except to take some load off the system? [11:41] yep === __Ace__ [n=love@kr-lun-162-144-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] this laptop is 3.33ghz [11:41] 1gb ram [11:42] 100gb HD [11:42] 17in screen === pm [n=pm@80.50.255.82] has joined #kubuntu [11:42] It will be fine once I get more RAM perhaps, but this one just came with 256m (got it offa craigslist, don't laugh) [11:42] and they put an ati radon 9000 with 128mb shared rn [11:42] haha [11:42] shut up Chris === Mrono hates toshiba [11:42] I have some "unaccounted for" ram at work. [11:42] you don't say... === brodel loves toshiba [11:43] heh [11:43] best laptop I've ever owned [11:43] any chance you could just...misplace one of the alienware boxes? [11:43] they are cheap bastards [11:43] I just had to send 2 alienware laptops back for service. === brodel hates Viaos [11:43] this laptop overheats [11:43] screens going [11:43] it's not overheating. it is a lap warmer. [11:43] vaios === coolio10 [n=coolio10@CPE0040ca74d9df-CM000a739b54a4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:43] has mem problems [11:43] unconfirmed [11:44] sounds like my sony I had hehe [11:44] I ran a mem test and it did 9 passes with 0 error [11:44] I have an old Vaio at work... Kubuntu works great on it... can't get XP to run at optimal resolution at all. [11:44] It's like a fricking jumbo jet [11:44] loud [11:44] hi [11:44] xp works great on it because of all the damn drivers I have to use to get it to work right [11:44] I have dropped my toshiba pretty hard a few times and worried it wouldn't work again. the worst that ever happened is the speaker cover popped off. [11:44] We should see if we can get Dave to donate it. [11:44] I like dells === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu [11:44] brodel ... is it a toughbook? [11:44] Tell him it's broken [11:45] Biff`: no === coolio10 [n=coolio10@CPE0040ca74d9df-CM000a739b54a4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] just an old-ish satellite === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.97.94] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] mines a p35-s111 [11:45] satellite [11:45] cadfael ... it won't even POST ... dout it's even usefull as a boat anchor. [11:45] I set it on a bed and in 30 sec it overheats [11:46] how do you use wine? [11:46] apt -get install wine [11:46] wine yourprogram.exe [11:46] I'm chatting with mIRC via wine. [11:46] really [11:46] mine closes after a fedw min [11:46] haha [11:46] are you just too good for Konversation? Is that it? [11:46] it'll open === jind [n=jind@213.161.249.249] has joined #kubuntu [11:46] but then it closes [11:46] mirc is teh shiat. [11:46] I want my mirc back [11:47] agreed [11:47] what you mean wine myprogram.exe? [11:47] Biff`: you're running bitchx too aren't you? [11:47] coolio10 [11:47] right click on the exe [11:47] click open with [11:47] and type wine in the top [11:47] cadfael ... nope... just mIRC. [11:47] then click ok [11:47] I want to run kubuntu inside a vmware box inside wine on kubuntu === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu [11:48] ok [11:48] What could go wrong? [11:48] nothing! that's the beauty of it. [11:49] if something goes wrong with the plan, just change it and claim it was always like that [11:49] I couldn't get vmware to run in linux [11:50] s [11:50] eesee [11:50] see* [11:50] it'll run [11:50] but then i'll crash in a few min [11:50] I'm running mIRC 6.16 just fine. [11:50] WW: test [11:51] Wine even created a shortcut on my desktop... no problems. [11:51] <_b> does audio app run under wine ? [11:51] <_b> i mean is the ms sound mapper shit emulated ? [11:51] like what [11:52] oh yeah [11:52] Biff`: you never have any problems [11:52] you lead a charmed life [11:52] <_b> nice! [11:52] remember what a pain in the ass it was when I tried to install Superkaramba? [11:52] <_b> got some app hard to live without [11:52] It was easy here. [11:53] Maybe if I stopped using computers from 10 years ago I would have fewer problems === andred is now known as andre^off [11:53] your sources.list was teh suck. [11:53] heh. [11:53] Can you loan me $3k until payday? [11:53] hmm [11:53] 1990 called. It wants its PC back. [11:53] it's running rather well [11:54] <_b> im running old epia 500 mhz [11:54] So today I find my roommate had halflife 2. I never got to play it (was running a p3/500 when it was out) so now I'm all excited [11:54] up until it asks for a CD key. "Ozzy, have you got the CD key?" "What CD key?" [11:55] "The one that came with the game, and the manuals, in the box." "I tossed all that shit out." [11:55] <_b> lol! [11:55] He's all "I thought steam would just register it for you." === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu [11:56] ok brb reboot === reidms [n=reidms@adsl-1-44-165.bix.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === Gunni [n=Gunni@xdsl-213-196-220-126.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:57] Can someone please help me, I am having serious problems! [11:57] lol [11:57] <_b> u re online it cant be that serious ! [11:57] wee [11:57] I got my mirc back [11:57] happy days [11:58] Im using a live CD [11:58] <_b> ops [11:58] I'm going to try to run linux on my server [11:58] see if it works [11:58] I may end up doing that [11:59] I had Kubuntu booting fine, then I tried to install Fedora Core 4 and it wouldnt work. I reinstalled Kubuntu and now when I try to boot it all it is a a blinking curser. === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu === cadfael [n=peter@ip70-160-44-114.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === NRG88 [n=nrg88@86.126.206.35] has joined #kubuntu [12:00] if i go under ctrl+alt+f1 for example, how do i return? [12:01] What do you think I did? Did I destroy my MBR? Kubuntu says that I installed grub, but grub wont come up. [12:01] ctrl+alt+f7 [12:01] I use it as like a restore thing [12:01] thanks Mrono [12:01] incase something in the xwindow screwes up [12:01] and I cant get to a console [12:02] I just do that and do ps -x to show all the processes [12:02] yeah, vmware screewed it up for me last time [12:02] and kill what I need [12:02] i did the same thing, only didn't know how to come back :D i used ctrl+alt+f8 [12:02] and the f11 i think, and could'n switch anymore [12:03] these are terminals? [12:03] y [12:03] ep