[12:04] <Snoopy010481> mehaga: does it work?
[12:07] <samoura> #samoura
[12:08] <samual> could somebody please try to help? my dhcp is not starting at boot-time and I have to start it each time manually...
[12:08] <Snoopy010481> i will leave now
[12:08] <Snoopy010481> bye
[12:08] <noteventime> samual
[12:08] <noteventime> postbin /etc/network/interfaces
[12:10] <samual> noteventime: auto lo
[12:10] <samual> noteventime: iface lo inet loopback
[12:10] <noteventime> !postbin
[12:10] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[12:11] <samual> noteventime: what is postbin?
[12:11] <noteventime> !pastebin
[12:11] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[12:11] <noteventime> pastebin i mean, sorry
[12:11] <samual> noteventime: don't have such a command.
[12:12] <noteventime> its not a commad its a webpage
[12:12] <noteventime> !pastebin
[12:12] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[12:12] <noteventime> :)
[12:14] <samual> noteventime: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d9275
[12:14] <RomanK> Hi all!
[12:14] <noteventime> ok
[12:15] <RomanK> i've got a problem... i just installed kubuntu (5.10) and now kde-su doesn't work... something about "not able to contact su"... "sudo -s" doesn't work either... it asks for my password and then open's a shell... but not for root but for the same user who executed "sudo -s"
[12:15] <noteventime> samual: auto rausb0 should do the work
[12:16] <samual> noteventime: really?
[12:16] <samual> noteventime: that would be cool. gotta go and try. :-)
[12:16] <noteventime> Strange thing it doesn't
[12:16] <noteventime> you already have that
[12:17] <noteventime> thats the problem
[12:18] <samual> noteventime: hmmm, and what about line 11?
[12:18] <samoura> #samoura
[12:18] <noteventime> thats what i mean
[12:19] <xwolf-> how do i play wmv files?
[12:19] <samual> noteventime: I take it out then?
[12:19] <noteventime> no
[12:19] <noteventime> no
[12:19] <noteventime> xwolf install w32codecs
[12:19] <noteventime> !wmv
[12:19] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:22] <samual> noteventime: so, you wouldn't know the answer?
[12:22] <noteventime> No, I'm sorry
[12:22] <noteventime> i thought you might have missed the auto for some reason
[12:23] <RomanK> re
[12:27] <RomanK> kubuntu seemed to miss to edit my /etc/sudoers-file during installation...
[12:28] <RomanK> could someone please show me, how my primary user should be listed in there?
[12:30] <Mrono> hiya
[12:32] <s_v_e_n> Help with Knoda please, Im runnung Kubunto and cant get scripting to work
[12:33] <xwolf-> i installed w32codecs package... but i can't find mplayer in apt
[12:34] <Mrono> course not
[12:34] <Mrono>  it's not there
[12:34] <Mrono> command line
[12:34] <xwolf-> great.
[12:34] <RomanK> hm... is the admin-group in kubuntu 5.10 "admin" or "adm"?
[12:34] <Mrono> yep
[12:34] <Mrono> or
[12:35] <Mrono> you can also do an open with
[12:35] <Mrono> and put mplayer in it
[12:35] <Mrono> :)
[12:35] <Mrono> so when you double click on the file it runs the command
[12:35] <xwolf-> but i don't think it is installed, mrono
[12:35] <Mrono> mplayer file
[12:35] <Mrono> try
[12:36] <samoura> hello
[12:36] <samoura> noteventime
[12:36] <samoura> come back i was eating :D
[12:37] <xwolf-> Mrono 'cannot find mplayer program'
[12:37] <xwolf-> well, that's the ideia
[12:37] <xwolf-> *idea
[12:37] <zephryos> Hobbsee HEEEEEELP!
[12:37] <Mrono> I compiled mine
[12:37] <Mrono> lol
[12:38] <Mrono> lol
[12:38] <Mrono> krita keeps crashing
[12:38] <samoura> mrono?
[12:38] <Mrono> yo
[12:38] <samoura> can you help me
[12:38] <samoura> ?
[12:39] <Mrono> do...
[12:39] <zephryos> HOBBSEE!!
[12:39] <samoura> help me with a boot
[12:39] <Mrono> what's wrong with it
[12:39] <Mrono> I might know something
[12:39] <zephryos> hoooooobsse e eee
[12:39] <zephryos> :- (
[12:39] <Mrono> lol
[12:39] <Mrono> what's wrong
[12:39] <zephryos> I cant find a driver that works
[12:40] <samoura> i have set it up but i cant connect the bot to any server so can you read this becouse you understand better engilish than me http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php    and than go down and read it please ;S
[12:40] <Mrono> lol
[12:40] <Mrono> I have to recompile my kernal
[12:41] <samoura> mrono
[12:41] <Mrono> yeh
[12:41] <samoura> #samoura come on this channal please :( to help me
[12:41] <Mrono> uh ok
[12:42] <xwolf-> how do i install mplayer? ;>
[12:42] <Mrono> try
[12:42] <Mrono> apt-get install mplayer
[12:42] <Mrono> er
[12:42] <Hobbsee> hey zephryos
[12:42] <Mrono> sudo that
[12:42] <xwolf-> couldnt.
[12:42] <Mrono> ok
[12:42] <Mrono> compile it
[12:42] <xwolf-> yeah, i'm downloading the bz2 already ;/
[12:43] <xwolf-> but i don't have enough kung fu yet
[12:43] <gamma> dumb question.. is there an easy way of selecting links in a web browser w/o a mouse?
[12:43] <Mrono> uh huh
[12:43] <Mrono> extentions
[12:44] <xwolf-> ahm
[12:44] <xwolf-> gamma pressing TAB? ;P
[12:44] <gamma> bleh :P
[12:44] <gamma> that's annoying on sites with tons of clickables
[12:44] <xwolf-> true.
[12:45] <gamma> guess mouse it is..
[12:46] <Mrono> I need some help with setting up my mousde
[12:46] <Mrono> the middle button doesn't work right
[12:46] <Hobbsee> gamma: you could always use elinks/w3m if you want a web browser without a mouse
[12:47] <gamma> i was hoping there was something i could do using konqueror
[12:47] <gamma> shift from mouse to kb wastes time :P
[12:48] <Mrono> lol
[01:06] <Mrono> I need to get more codecs for my mplayer
[01:06] <Mrono> and i got a video of my poiwermate
[01:10] <gamma> w32codecs includes a lot of crap :P
[01:11] <Mrono> I still need more
[01:11] <Mrono> I have no other video players
[01:12] <Mrono> mplayer is the only one that works
[01:12] <Mrono> two major things
[01:12] <Mrono> I need to get video playback working
[01:12] <Mrono> I need to get wifi working
[01:13] <Mrono> those are pretty much the two major things
[01:13] <Hobbsee> !tell Mrono about wifi
[01:13] <Mrono> besides my toshiba stuff
[01:13] <Mrono> yada
[01:13] <Mrono> seen it
[01:13] <Mrono> the last week has been one big scavenger hunt
[01:13] <Mrono> it's taken me a whole week to get here
[01:13] <Mrono> literally
[01:13] <Hobbsee> lol
[01:13] <Mrono> almost I started on sunday
[01:14] <Mrono> anyone use smart DJ
[01:15] <Mrono> weird
[01:16] <gamma> all the problems i've had with kubuntu have been minor stuff compared to gentoo
[01:16] <Mrono> my wine dispeared when I upgraded to 3.5.1
[01:16] <gamma> kubuntu makes everything easy imo :P
[01:16] <gamma> it's probably there, the icon is just gone
[01:16] <Mrono> it is
[01:16] <Mrono> sweet
[01:16] <blackvd> to install kde 3.5 i just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop right?
[01:16] <Mrono> UT seems to run
[01:16] <blackvd> fresh install of ubuntu
[01:17] <gamma> blackvd: if you're running dapper, yes
[01:17] <Mrono> install the KDE repositories
[01:17] <blackvd> no just 5.10
[01:17] <Mrono> noo
[01:17] <gamma> you'll need the extra repositories for breezy
[01:17] <Mrono> it just crashed
[01:17] <Mrono> darnit
[01:17] <blackvd> can you point me in the right direction to get it?
[01:18] <gamma> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[01:18] <farous> !3.5.1
[01:18] <ubotu> 3.5
[01:18] <gamma> !3.5
[01:18] <ubotu> gamma: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:18] <gamma> !kde-351
[01:18] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gamma
[01:18] <farous> hmm i guess there was a factoid about it and was in the topic before
[01:18] <gamma> !amarok
[01:18] <ubotu> methinks amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[01:18] <Hobbsee> blackvd: you can get kde with only version 3.4.3 with just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5
[01:18] <ubotu> (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:19] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.1
[01:19] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:19] <gamma> aha
[01:19] <Hobbsee> blackvd: ^
[01:19] <gamma> !amarok-1.4
[01:19] <ubotu> gamma: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:19] <Mrono> !amarok
[01:19] <ubotu> I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[01:19] <farous> Hobbsee: to the rescue :)
[01:19] <Hobbsee> farous: :)
[01:19] <blackvd> cool thanks
[01:21] <McScruff> i fooked up my kubuntu install earlier, i went to remove a package and it ended up removeing 99% of kubuntu, is there a way to fix this for next time?
[01:21] <gamma> McScruff: don't do that again
[01:21] <gamma> :P
[01:21] <McScruff> lol, i will try not to :)
[01:21] <zephryos> ok I foudn a drvier and it seems to work
[01:21] <gamma> McScruff: if you do it again just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:21] <zephryos> now I just cant connect to the network.. or something
[01:21] <zephryos> i dont know
[01:21] <gamma> should give you all the basics again
[01:21] <farous> McScruff: try the -s option to simulate before installing or removing next time
[01:21] <McScruff> gamma , i tried that, apt-get has been removed
[01:22] <gamma> wtf did you try removing? 0.o
[01:22] <McScruff> i cant remember :)
[01:22] <gamma> like the kernel? cuz i did that once -.-
[01:22] <McScruff> it prob was the kernel
[01:22] <zephryos> Hobbsee you there?
[01:22] <McScruff> coz for some reason 386 gets installed , grrrr
[01:22] <gamma> yea make sure you preview the changes of stuff it's going to remove when you get rid of stuff
[01:22] <Hobbsee> zephryos: yeah
[01:23] <gamma> McScruff: there isn't any speed difference between 686 and 386 kernel wise, so don't worry too much about switching over
[01:23] <McScruff> i already switched on this install :)
[01:23] <zephryos> Hobbsee: I found the correct driver for my wireless card. I had my stepdad make the network open for a little while to see if it will work.
[01:23] <gamma> there were performance benchmarks out there on the net and they were neck and neck
[01:23] <Hobbsee> oh goody!
[01:24] <zephryos> Hobbsee: It will detect the network, and it shows it in KWiFiManager, Channel 8, and that .. but I have no IP addy and I cant get anything from it when I disable the lan connection.
[01:24] <McScruff> Got to install vmware now :O
[01:24] <Hobbsee> zephryos: try a sudo ifup wlan0
[01:25] <Hobbsee> then a sudo dhclient wlan0
[01:25] <zephryos> I did...
[01:25] <McScruff> to package people, how come vmware player isnt a package :S
[01:25] <xwolf-> Mrono
[01:25] <xwolf-> i ran ./configure
[01:25] <Mrono> you be wanting me?
[01:25] <xwolf-> then make
[01:26] <Mrono> and?
[01:26] <xwolf-> what do i do now?
[01:26] <Mrono> type sudo make install
[01:27] <xwolf-> done
[01:27] <xwolf-> isn't there a gui or sth?
[01:28] <__mikem> Why does ubuntu run slowly under vmware?
[01:28] <Mrono> nope
[01:28] <Mrono> see the man pages for help
[01:28] <Mrono> or to have it auto run a file
[01:28] <Mrono> right click on the file
[01:28] <Mrono> click open with
[01:29] <Mrono> type in mplayer in the top
[01:29] <McScruff> __mikem : when i tested it before it was fine for me
[01:29] <Mrono> then click use for all file types or whatever
[01:29] <Mrono> then ok
[01:31] <Mrono> hmm
[01:31] <treyh0> ooh cool volatile
[01:33] <samoura> hello is there a computer pro here?
[01:34] <zephryos> damnit Hobbsee >.<
[01:34] <Hobbsee> zephryos: it didnt like it?
[01:34] <Hobbsee> what happened?
[01:35] <samoura> First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?
[01:35] <samoura> hello help
[01:36] <zephryos> ! register
[01:36] <ubotu> register is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[01:37] <Zephryos> Can anyone see me type? :- \
[01:38] <Mrono> hey xwolf did it work?
[01:38] <Mrono> no
[01:38] <samoura> First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?
[01:38] <Zephryos> bah where'd Hobbsee go?
[01:38] <Mrono> lol
[01:38] <Hobbsee> Zephryos: have you never heard of a /whois
[01:39] <Zephryos> ?
[01:39] <samoura> First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?
[01:39] <Zephryos> What about it?
[01:40] <samoura> Help me please
[01:40] <samoura> does no body knows about this?
[01:41] <ryanakca> how do you find out what video card your using? I think its intel815... but I'm not sure...
[01:42] <farous> ryanakca: lspci
[01:42] <farous> in a terminal
[01:42] <samoura> First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?  PLEASE can any one knows this yes or no?
[01:43] <samoura>  how do i copy and paste in Konsole help
[01:44] <farous> samoura: use the mouse buttons
[01:45] <farous> right click and select paste
[01:46] <Mrono> sweet
[01:46] <Mrono> I just ran UT through WINE
[01:46] <Mrono> and it worked
[01:46] <Mrono> brb
[01:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Shift+Insert is also paste in Konsole.
[01:46] <Mrono> setting it up
[01:48] <gosuflavor> Hey,  can someone help me out?
[01:48] <gosuflavor> I'm getting a problem with ndiswrapper
[01:49] <Hobbsee> gosuflavor: what problem?
[01:49] <gosuflavor> I'm trying to install a driver for my wireless adapter
[01:50] <ryanakca> how do you get cron to run "apt-get update" every hour on the hour?
[01:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> gosuflavor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[01:50] <gosuflavor> Checked that
[01:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh
[01:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> Didn't work?
[01:51] <gosuflavor> I got to sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:51] <gosuflavor> I checked the log, but it hangs
[01:51] <gosuflavor> There isn't any "taro@ubuntu:~$"
[01:52] <gosuflavor> The log says <3>ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1534):loadndiswrapper failed (11); check system log for messages from 'loadndiswrapper'
[01:53] <robotgeek> gosuflavor: check /var/log/syslog or "dmesg | grep ndis"
[01:54] <gosuflavor> I get the same message, but at the end, I have Feb 24 19:41:46 ubuntu -- MARK --
[01:55] <robotgeek> gosuflavor: what wireless card do you have?
[01:55] <gosuflavor> WUSB54G
[01:55] <gosuflavor> v4
[01:56] <robotgeek> gosuflavor: and which chipset is it? "lspci -v"
[01:57] <samoura> First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in  how do i copy this by simple copy and paste?  PLEASE can any one knows this yes or no?
[01:57] <samoura>  how do i copy and paste in Konsole help
[01:57] <gosuflavor> The thing is, it's not a PCI card
[01:57] <gosuflavor> It's USB
[01:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> samoura: To copy, select the text, right click, and press copy
[01:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> samoura: to paste, press Shift + Insert
[01:57] <samoura> IT WONT WORK
[01:58] <robotgeek> gosuflavor: sorry, "lsusb -vvv"
[01:58] <robotgeek> CheeseBurgerMan: i think samoura needs copy file
[01:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh.
[01:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> cp <thing to copy> <place to copy to>
[01:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> IIRC
[02:00] <gosuflavor> So far, it isn't responding
[02:00] <samoura> how do i use cp
[02:00] <samoura> file:///home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub
[02:00] <samoura>  how do i copy and paste in Konsole help
[02:01] <gosuflavor> It's letting me type on the new lines with no "taro@ubuntu:~&"
[02:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> samoura: cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub <put location you want to copy the thing to here>
[02:02] <farous> mm funny thing the most common reply in #debian is google it. sometimes i feel i want to use it here
[02:02] <samoura> i want to copy this conf.hub to the binary
[02:02] <Hobbsee> farous: yes, same.  or do a copy paste of what was said above
[02:02] <samoura> how do i do that
[02:02] <samoura> i want to copy this conf.hub to the binary
[02:02] <samoura> how do i do that
[02:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> samoura: Where is the binary?
[02:03] <samoura>  /usr/bin
[02:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:04] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:04] <samoura> cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/bin/conf.hub': Permission denied
[02:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> then sudo it
[02:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:04] <farous> tale care Hobbsee got to do some real work now. Take care all :)
[02:04] <samoura> sudo: /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found
[02:04] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$
[02:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> BRB
[02:05] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo  ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:05] <samoura> sudo: /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found
[02:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> you have to use sudo cp, not just sudo
[02:06] <gosuflavor> The "lsusb -vvv" didn't work
[02:08] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo /Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:08] <samoura> sudo: /Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub: command not found
[02:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> samoura:  sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:08] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ samoura:  sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:08] <samoura> bash: samoura:: command not found
[02:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Don't include your name
[02:09] <samoura> now output?
[02:09] <samoura> no output ?
[02:10] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$  sudo cp ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> if you want output, type sudo cp  -v ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:11] <samoura> `/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub' -> `/usr/bin/conf.hub'
[02:11] <samoura> no out put :S
[02:11] <samoura> is it bad?
[02:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> No. It copied.
[02:11] <samoura> yppi
[02:11] <samoura> can you help me more
[02:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dunno if my patience can handle it, but what's the problem?
[02:12] <samoura> read this i cant anderstand http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php  down down
[02:14] <gosuflavor> Can someone help me?
[02:14] <hatake_kakashi> ask the question and you might get an answer
[02:15] <gosuflavor> I already asked
[02:15] <samoura> nice come back
[02:15] <brydenn> anyone here running KBFX?
[02:15] <Hobbsee> gosuflavor: which version of ndiswrapper are you using?
[02:15] <gosuflavor> The one that came with 5.10, I don't have internet access on that one
[02:16] <hatake_kakashi> ahh man, usb wifi
[02:16] <Hobbsee> gosuflavor: you can compile a newer version of ndiswrapper if you like, to see if that works better
[02:17] <gosuflavor> Will I be able to without the updated files?
[02:17] <gosuflavor> Or would I have to burn them to a CD?
[02:17] <gosuflavor> Wait...
[02:17] <gosuflavor> Dumb question, nevermind
[02:18] <gosuflavor> Ok, I'll try that
[02:18] <gosuflavor> Thanks
[02:18] <Hobbsee> download them on the comp with a net connection, along with instructions, use a cd/usb stick or whatever to transfer them over?
[02:18] <Hobbsee> 1.10 also works on dapper - untried on breezy though
[02:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> it works, and I don't want to fiddle with  it. :P
[02:19] <Hobbsee> hehe true
[02:19] <Hobbsee> you're lucky - it's borked on dapper, so you have to compile it yourself
[02:19] <Hobbsee> fortunately, it's very simple
[02:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, ./configure make install stuff. ;)
[02:19] <samoura> sudo cp  -v ~/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub /usr/bin
[02:19] <samoura> `/home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7/cfg-examples/conf.hub' -> `/usr/bin/conf.hub'
[02:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> great, samoura. We saw that.
[02:20] <samoura> okei did you read this
[02:20] <samoura> hey come on  #samoura
[02:20] <samoura> to help me better please
[02:20] <hatake_kakashi> -_-
[02:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> if you have a problem, I'll help you in here.
[02:21] <samoura> okei
[02:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> or, try to. ;)
[02:21] <samoura> read this i cant anderstand http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php  down down
[02:21] <samoura> i am trying to install a bot
[02:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just use chanserv. :P
[02:21] <samoura> this bot has 44 bots in it and the bots can go on the same channal
[02:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> great, 44 bots to memorize.
[02:22] <samoura> yes
[02:22] <samoura> and i want it ;(
 BTW
[02:22] <samoura> please help me
[02:23] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ psotnic -c config.file
[02:23] <samoura> Psotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51)
[02:23] <samoura> Copyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin <grusin@gmail.com>
[02:23] <samoura> [*]  Loading decrypted config from 'config.file'
[02:23] <samoura> [-]  Cannot open config file: No such file or directory
[02:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> if you'd read it, it says " First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :)"
[02:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> So, edit it
[02:23] <samoura> ohh why cant this just run :(
[02:23] <samoura> how?
[02:23] <crimsun> make sure the path to config.file is correct
[02:23] <samoura> i am new in this linux
[02:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> No idea, that's what it says.
[02:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[02:24] <raphink> hi delphlelfe
[02:24] <samoura> crimsun do you have than kind of bot
[02:24] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: you are supposed to put it where it asks you, not where-ever you desire.
[02:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[02:25] <crimsun> samoura: ...no
[02:25] <ryanakca> how do you get cron to run "apt-get update" every hour on the hour?
[02:26] <samoura> i am trying to put it in a binary folder
[02:26] <samoura> and i dont know how
[02:27] <hatake_kakashi> ryanakca: assuming you are using vixie cron: http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[02:28] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: did it say to put it there? isn't there a manual to say where its put?
[02:29] <hatake_kakashi> psotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub <-- try this
[02:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> samoura: by 'edit it' it means to..well..edit the /usr/bin/conf.hub using the options given in  section 1. (nick, realname, nickappend, etc)
[02:32] <samoura> http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page
[02:32] <samoura> every one help me please
[02:32] <thomas> Hi, I accidentally installed kscreensaver, and when I try to install it, it tells me to insert the CD
[02:33] <thomas> my CD drive dosen't work, btw
[02:33] <Mrono> hey
[02:33] <Mrono> mplayer-386:
[02:33] <Mrono>  Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20  but it is not installable
[02:33] <samoura> http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page
[02:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> thomas: try sudo apt-get remove kscreensaver
[02:33] <thomas> it says it isn't installed
[02:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh
[02:33] <thomas> but it refuses to download it, just wants the CD
[02:34] <thomas> could I modify my sources.lst to fix that?
[02:34] <hatake_kakashi> comment out the line that contains about the cdrom I presume?
[02:34] <samoura> Psotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51)
[02:34] <samoura> Copyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin <grusin@gmail.com>
[02:34] <samoura> [*]  Loading decrypted config from 'config.file'
[02:34] <samoura> [-]  Cannot open config file: No such file or directory
[02:34] <samoura> [-]  Cannot open config file: No such file or directory  how to run it
[02:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> good grief, samoura. Try what hatake_kakashi said.
[02:36] <thomas> ha, it's the first line too :)
[02:36] <samoura> what did hi sayd
[02:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> psotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub
[02:36] <thomas> thank you :)
[02:36] <hatake_kakashi> thomas: don't forget to apt-get update after uncommenting it
[02:36] <hatake_kakashi> err commenting it out
[02:36] <hatake_kakashi> np
[02:37] <samoura> [-]  Cannot open config file: Permission denied
[02:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo psotnic -c /usr/bin/conf.hub
[02:38] <samoura> Psotnic C++ edition, version 0.2.7-ipv6 (Feb 24 2006 18:42:51)
[02:38] <samoura> Copyright (C) 2003-2005 Grzegorz Rusin <grusin@gmail.com>
[02:38] <samoura> [*]  Loading decrypted config from '/usr/bin/conf.hub'
[02:38] <samoura> [-]  /usr/bin/conf.hub:8: Unknown host: 127.0.0.1.
[02:38] <samoura> [-]  Failed to load config
[02:38] <thomas> hmm... what's interesting is that the Random screensaver has waaay more screensavers in it than I can choose from :?
[02:38] <hatake_kakashi> TD-Linux: not sure
[02:38] <louis^> Hello
[02:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo psotnic /usr/bing/conf.hub
[02:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> hello
[02:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> whoops
[02:39] <louis^> i need to test my fps with glxgear
[02:39] <louis^> how?
[02:39] <hatake_kakashi> sudo psotnic /usr/bin/conf.hub
[02:39] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ [-]  Failed to load config
[02:39] <samoura> bash: [-] : command not found
[02:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol, thanks hatake_kakashi
[02:39] <hatake_kakashi> np CheeseBurgerMan
[02:39] <ltmon> Does anyone know where i can get a package for Amarok 1.4b1 for Dapper that has been compiled with ipod support?
[02:40] <samoura> hateke-kakashi please help me on #samoura channal
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> louis^: I think its glxgears -showfps but you need to type that in konsole and wait for a few seconds because it will output it afterwards
[02:40] <louis^> k
[02:40] <samoura> hateke-kakashi please help me on #samoura channal
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: no.. I'll only help in here, I'm already in far too many channels
[02:41] <hatake_kakashi> louis^: err try -printfps
[02:41] <louis^> k
[02:41] <samoura> hateke-kakashi can you help than?
[02:41] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: not really, I can probably try
[02:41] <samoura> http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php it is down in this page
[02:41] <ltmon> louis^:glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[02:42] <louis^> ...
[02:42] <samoura> http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php read it it is there i am reading and trying folow after
[02:42] <louis^> glxgears -showfps
[02:42] <louis^> oot@Louis-Philippe:/etc/X11# glxgears -printfps
[02:42] <louis^> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:42] <louis^> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:42] <louis^> Error: couldn't open display :0.0
[02:42] <louis^> root@Louis-Philippe:/etc/X11#
[02:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> man glxgears. ;)
[02:42] <ltmon> i'm not being facetious louis^ .... that's a real option !! :)
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> louis^: you are running it as super-user, you are supposed to run it as you own user account, the one thats logged into the Xorg server
[02:43] <louis^> k
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: did you properly config your config file?
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> s/you/your
[02:43] <louis^> louis@Louis-Philippe:~$ glxgears -printfps
[02:43] <louis^> 1047 frames in 5.0 seconds = 207.508 FPS
[02:43] <louis^> thanks!
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> np
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> ltmon: amazing, that also works too :)
[02:44] <samoura> i don even know how to confuger
[02:44] <samoura> tell me please
[02:44] <louis^> hihi
[02:44] <samoura> ;S
[02:44] <louis^> i'll reboot, in order to reboot my X server :)
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: its been explained on that url you have pasted
[02:44] <louis^> i ajusted my ati drivers
[02:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> louis^: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[02:44] <ltmon> hatake_kakashi: Yeah... i think it's some X developer getting sick of people using the fps as some kind of graphics card bench
[02:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> restarts the X server.
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> louis^: you don't have to reboot your computer just to do that
[02:44] <samoura> i don understand "I am new in linux" komon
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> ltmon: yeah I heard about that, but apparently -printfps also works :)
[02:45] <ltmon> hatake_kakashi: yes... but it isn't as fun
[02:45] <samoura> how do i do this just tell me i extracted all the fails in desktop
[02:45] <samoura>  /home/samoura/Desktop/psotnic-0.2.7
[02:45] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: that's no real excuse, even if you are new you are supposed to learn. Open the config file with your favourite editor and adjust it to your taste according to that site
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> ltmon: heh, either way :)
[02:46] <samoura> okei
[02:46] <samoura> you mean that
[02:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Section 1 tells you the options you can put in.
[02:47] <samoura> op en up the config and write a password ?
[02:47] <ryanakca> is there a howto on making cron run "apt-get update" hourly?
[02:47] <ryanakca> kcron doesn't really help...
[02:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> samoura: Section 1 give you the options you can use
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> ryanakca: the site I posted before didn't help?
[02:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> sorry ryanakca, I'm still in the beginner stages of learning. ;)
[02:48] <ryanakca> no...
[02:48] <raphink> pfiew, it went all over the place
[02:48] <samoura> okei i have confugerd the config what than?
[02:48] <hatake_kakashi> I can't imagine why not
[02:49] <ryanakca> I need it to run as root...
[02:49] <samoura> op en up the config and write a password ?
[02:49] <hatake_kakashi> ryanakca: you can't run apt-get as normal user
[02:50] <ryanakca> obviously
[02:50] <hatake_kakashi> unless if you do suid, etc
[02:50] <samoura> hateke okei have confugerd what than
[02:50] <samoura> hateke okei have confugerd what than
[02:50] <hatake_kakashi> you get root to add it into the cron themself
[02:50] <samoura> whot?
[02:50] <Hobbsee> raphink: hehe - i shoulda defenestrated it from a high window
[02:50] <Hobbsee> but it does work, with windows
[02:51] <samoura> hateke okei have confugerd what than
[02:51] <raphink> Hobbsee: what kind of printer is it?
[02:51] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: actually, I think you are supposed to make a config file from scratch. Does hub.conf look similar to the one on the website? if not then you need to make one from scratch
[02:51] <raphink> Hobbsee: sure, defenestrating works with windows ;)
[02:51] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:51] <samoura> how?
[02:51] <raphink> Hobbsee: still didn't try the ssh ?
[02:51] <ryanakca> I'm confusled
[02:52] <samoura> how?
[02:52] <Hobbsee> raphink: no, i didnt - i reinstalled since then, so i dont have the commands
[02:52] <Hobbsee> and i havent had anything to build
[02:52] <raphink> Hobbsee: ok
[02:52] <raphink> Hobbsee: keep in mind that whenver you want, you can access my machine for a build
[02:52] <Hobbsee> ok :) thanks
[02:52] <raphink> it's all set
[02:52] <samoura> samoura: actually, I think you are supposed to make a config file from scratch. Does hub.conf look similar to the one on the website? if not then you need to make one from scratch  all i hear is blabla la what is scratch ?
[02:52] <fatejudger> I'm having trouble mounting samba drives on boot
[02:53] <fatejudger> the drive tries to get mounted before Samba is loaded
[02:53] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to get around this?
[02:55] <hatake_kakashi> samoura: have you tried asking your questions on that web irc link?
[02:55] <samoura> web irk link
[02:55] <samoura> in what channal?
[02:56] <hatake_kakashi> dunno, it there is a link of it on the url
[02:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dunno - it's a javascript link.
[02:56] <hatake_kakashi> yeah, you need java
[02:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> look in the forums, there's probably a thread that shows the info.
[02:57] <hatake_kakashi> yeah that too
[03:12] <samoura>  First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'.
[03:13] <samoura> how do i do this?
[03:17] <fatejudger> anyone know of a good alternative to VMWare for KDE?
[03:19] <stoned> none are worth it
[03:19] <stoned> vmware is it
[03:19] <stoned> it is*
[03:19] <samoura>  First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'.  Hwo to this pleas help
[03:19] <samoura>  First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'.  Hwo to this pleas help
[03:19] <stoned> hey man
[03:20] <natas> would anyone recommend a gui prog for firewalling on  kubuntu?
[03:21] <stoned> natas, i would, but its better to learn iptables, THEN find a gui, with a supposition that you don't know iptalbes, if you do, there a bunch of them that get installed when you install full kubuntu.  or you can check 'apt-cache search kde|grep fire'
[03:22] <natas> hehe
[03:23] <natas> not sure if i have my apt-get setup or it should be by default?
[03:25] <natas> did that with sudo - nothing came up
[03:25] <stoned> huh?
[03:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> apt is setup by default
[03:25] <stoned> oh thats what hes askin
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> I think so.
[03:26] <stoned> man people need to TRY and use better sentence structure and grammar
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:26] <stoned> i can't decipher all this shit
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> I know it.
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Practice makes perfect though. ;)
[03:27] <stoned> natas, just type what i said, dont' worry about sudo.  when you find the package in the list, then use sudo apt-get install package
[03:27] <KaoticEvil> hey all :)
[03:27] <stoned> evil is not cool
[03:27] <stoned> chaos is even more uncool
[03:27] <KaoticEvil> lol
[03:27] <stoned> I like order, and good
[03:27] <KaoticEvil> im not really Kaotic or Evil...
[03:27] <natas> well i did it in terminal - no list showed up
[03:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, just like I don't really like cheeseburgers. ;)
[03:27] <natas> i dont have any package manager open so i dont know why nothing came up
[03:28] <stoned> natas, what did you type?
[03:28] <natas> apt-cache search kde|grep fire
[03:28] <natas> that
[03:28] <KaoticEvil> i just got a new keyboard... and its a multimedia keyboard...
[03:28] <Mabus06> I'm brand new to kubuntu, but I've used ubuntu a while.. how do you change the screen resolution in kubuntu?
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oooh. lemme guess the problem.
[03:28] <natas> opened new terminal window
[03:28] <stoned> well
[03:28] <stoned> i guess no packages exist then
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> The multimedia keys don't work. ;)
[03:28] <KaoticEvil> lol CheeseBurgerMan
[03:28] <KaoticEvil> exactly ;)
[03:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[03:28] <KaoticEvil> just need a starting point where to look
[03:28] <natas> same thing
[03:28] <Mabus06> Just noticed that too, now that you mention it.
[03:29] <natas> how is that possible with installed apps?
[03:29] <Mabus06> They worked with ubuntu, not with kubuntu.
[03:29] <stoned> natas, you can do apt-cache search firewall
[03:29] <stoned> or better yet
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> KaoticEvil: I actually haven't a clue how to fix it - that was just a guess. :P
[03:29] <__mikem> Is there any way to get ubuntu to run faster under vmware
[03:29] <natas> ok
[03:29] <KaoticEvil> lol CheeseBurgerMan... thanks :P
[03:29] <CheeseBurgerMan> No problem. ;)
[03:29] <KaoticEvil> heh
[03:29] <natas> shorewall i will try
[03:29] <stoned> i know there are like two or three kde firewall gui's that get installed
[03:29] <stoned> i can't remember thier name
[03:30] <stoned> well i guess there aren't any
[03:30] <natas> hmm
[03:30] <stoned> you can google for one
[03:30] <natas> iwill
[03:30] <stoned> i know there are some in kde
[03:30] <samoura>  First of all copy hub.conf from cfg-examples dir to the dir where psotinic binary is located in. Then edit it :). Next thing that is needed to be done is ecnryption of the config file, to do that run `psotnic -c config.file'.  Hwo to this pleas help
[03:30] <callie> Firestarter?
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> KaoticEvil: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133610&highlight=multimedia
[03:31] <stoned> yes
[03:31] <stoned> firestarter, kfirewall
[03:31] <callie> !firestarter
[03:31] <natas> http://www.webmin.com/download/modules/shorewall.wbm.gz
[03:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[03:31] <KaoticEvil> one problem tho...
[03:31] <KaoticEvil> will X recognize the extra keys?
[03:31] <stoned> but i still say you should learn iptables
[03:32] <KaoticEvil> my old one was only a 104 key
[03:32] <stoned> KaoticEvil, i actually just added a factoid about that
[03:32] <stoned> :)
[03:32] <callie> iptables are solid
[03:32] <stoned> !keytouch
[03:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, keytouch is http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - KeyTouch is a program which allows you to easily configure the extra function keys of your INTERNET/MULTIMEDIA ready keyboard. Ubuntu packages available.
[03:32] <natas> i know a little about iptables - and that is - copy everything mostly and fill in ip's with what you want
[03:32] <callie> i still dont fully get iptables, maybe one day
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, but is it a true rumor. ;)
[03:32] <natas> ip's / ports
[03:32] <KaoticEvil> thanks stoned :)
[03:32] <stoned> sure
[03:33] <natas> but i find that there are differences between progs for firewall & actual iptables rules
[03:33] <natas> that is the confusing part
[03:33] <KaoticEvil> i found the same link here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaKeys?action=show&redirect=MultimediaKeysHowto
[03:33] <callie> how does being stoned and linux mix?
[03:33] <stoned> KaoticEvil, don't use 2.1 beta, it will crash your X.  use only the stable older 2.0 keytouch
[03:33] <KaoticEvil> ok, will do
[03:33] <stoned> KaoticEvil, you will also have to install keytouch editor
[03:34] <stoned> KaoticEvil, and it is well documented as to how to setup your keyboard
[03:34] <stoned> if you have any trouble, i can help you with it, I spent a good solid 2 days on it with 3 diff keyboards
[03:34] <stoned> but if you can read and follow directions and think, you're good to go
[03:35] <KaoticEvil> lol
[03:35] <stoned> 'man woman'
[03:35] <KaoticEvil> well, i had a similar issue on a previous distro...
[03:35] <stoned> and also, another program should be called woman
[03:35] <stoned> the counterpart for man
[03:35] <KaoticEvil> the only difference was that the multimedia keyboard was attached from the start, so it was easier :P
[03:35] <callie> lol
[03:36] <KaoticEvil> stoned: what about X? will it see the new keys?
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah "woman chmod" - that'll make chmod more fun. :P
[03:36] <KaoticEvil> :))
[03:36] <stoned> you can modity the source for make, and edit a few strings, recompile, then type 'make love' and if you can think, it should say 'can't make love, too many arguments'
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:36] <KaoticEvil> or will i need to modify the conf file for it?
[03:36] <stoned> KaoticEvil, yes
[03:36] <stoned> KaoticEvil, only use keytouch, thats all
[03:36] <KaoticEvil> sweet :>
[03:38] <stoned> KaoticEvil, btw, when you get done generating the keyboard file for your keyboard, keep in mind that the keyboard file should be named after MODEL.MANUFACTURER. for example if i have an HP H7389 keyboard, I would name the file H7389.HP and place it manually in /usr/share/keytouch/keyboards/
[03:38] <stoned> KaoticEvil, make sure the file name corresponds to the manufac. and model in the generated XML file
[03:39] <KaoticEvil> will do
[03:39] <stoned> don't use dashes/slashes/weird characters anywhere either
[03:39] <KaoticEvil> good thing i tore the model number slip off the box before i threw it in the trash ;)
[03:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[03:40] <stoned> after you get done, please send your generated keyboard file to the author of keytouch so he can add that to the list
[03:43] <KaoticEvil> stoned: i will do :)
[03:46] <Mabus06> Can somebody please tell me how to set the screen resolution?
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > Peripherals > Display
[03:46] <tristanmike> Mabus06, right click desktop-Configure Desktop-Display
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh
[03:46] <tristanmike> or that way
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, you COULD do it the easy way. ;)
[03:47] <tristanmike> lol
[03:47] <Mabus06> tristanmike: it's not in settings?
[03:47] <Mabus06> Okay, thanks.
[03:47] <natas> easiest way to vnc - install vnc ?
[03:48] <stoned> natas, sudo apt-get install xtightvncserver xtigntvncviewer
[03:48] <stoned> doh
[03:48] <stoned> tightvncserver
[03:48] <McScruff> does anyone use amsn?
[03:48] <stoned> fuck no
[03:48] <McScruff> grr
[03:48] <tristanmike> HA!
[03:48] <callie> lol
[03:48] <McScruff> i cant get the music plugin working
[03:48] <tristanmike> really don't like it eh, stoned ?
[03:48] <natas> hehe
[03:49] <natas> ok
[03:49] <stoned> i can't dig micsoft
[03:49] <lampshade> I'm not actually running kubuntu, but an ubuntu install that I added KDE to (technically the KDE-base with apt)  I was wondering, is there a weather applet I can install like the one you can choose in gnome?  So that a little sun and the temp are shown in my tray?
[03:49] <stoned> not becuause of the MS hate bandwagon
[03:49] <stoned> mostly because its useless
[03:49] <callie> lampshade, try Superkaramba with liquid weather
[03:49] <tristanmike> and mostly just cause you should, :P
[03:49] <callie> !superkaramba
[03:49] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[03:50] <stoned> i never can get this damn karamba thing to work
[03:50] <tristanmike> lampshade, yes, superkaramba is cool, but there's a simple "kweather" applet
[03:50] <natas> said couldnt find package
[03:50] <stoned> natas, dude, learn apt.  apt-cache search vncserver
[03:50] <stoned> or sudo apt-get install vncserver xtightvncviewer
[03:50] <callie> lampshade, http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=6384
[03:50] <natas> i did that with vnc
[03:51] <stoned> then vncserver -depth 24 -geometry 800x600 or whatever else you want
[03:51] <Mrono> hi
[03:51] <natas> and i got krdc - krfb and libvncathauth-dev - libvncauth0
[03:51] <callie> im a semi noob and i managed to get superkaramba working nicely
[03:51] <stoned> natas, what are you trying to do?>
[03:51] <natas> trying to vnc to this box
[03:52] <stoned> callie, mostly becuase i hate bloatware, with the exception of the kde-core i don't evne use full kubuntu
[03:52] <stoned> natas, what is the other box running as os
[03:52] <KaoticEvil> ok... well, stoned and CheeseBurgerMan... thanks for the help :)
[03:52] <natas> os x - i have some vnc prog
[03:53] <stoned> natas, you don't need to do that
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP..even though i didn't help. ;)
[03:53] <natas> ok
[03:53] <KaoticEvil> im sure i will be back if u run into another question...
[03:53] <stoned> os x runs an x server and has ssh installed by default
[03:53] <natas> yep
[03:53] <natas> so can do from terminal or something
[03:53] <CellarDoor> I dumped Windows from my computer altogether in 2004, no regrets.
[03:54] <KaoticEvil> right now, ive got to go reconfigure my network... gotta get windows and linux networking again happily...
[03:54] <Mabus06> Can you make it like GNOME where each workspace has it's own taskbar?
[03:54] <KaoticEvil> peace yall :-)
[03:54] <Mabus06> The whole point of workspaces, for me, is so I can have many windows open with low resolution.
[03:54] <natas> only reason i cannot dump winedows is games - and once all games go to vista - i may give up gaming besides console - which will suck - i think i will still play wow though
[03:54] <stoned> all you need to do is ssh -X login@osx.ip.here, then enter the password for the user that exists on os x, once you are logged into the os x box, run an X11 app and it should show up on your monitor
[03:55] <natas> well im trying to do the opposite - so it should still work the other way around i just have to do it through x11 app?
[03:55] <stoned> you are on osx wanting to log into linux and run linux apps?
[03:55] <natas> yes
[03:55] <stoned> the same should hold true
[03:55] <natas> linux is gonna be my firewall/router - without display
[03:55] <stoned> doesn't matter if osx is bsd based or not, it still uses x11
[03:56] <natas> i wonder - can linux use x11 vnc session without video card or no?
[03:56] <stoned> so i dunno, you can try ssh -X into linux FROM osx and run an xterm & and see whats going on
[03:56] <natas> since im not going to have monitor hooked up to it anyway
[03:56] <stoned> yes
[03:56] <natas> that would be cool
[03:56] <stoned> wait
[03:56] <stoned> use one line man
[03:56] <stoned> confusing me n shit :/
[03:57] <natas> ok
[03:58] <stoned> unless you have onboard video on the motherboard
[03:58] <stoned> if there is no onboard video, you will need a gfx card
[03:58] <Mrono> hey
[03:59] <stoned> for that for can get a cheap 20$ 32mb video card
[03:59] <Mrono> how do I move stuff around on the taskbar
[03:59] <stoned> and anything linux, go with nvidia
[03:59] <stoned> Mrono, right lick, select move item, and just move it
[03:59] <natas> ok i dont have onboard so im stuck ;) no biggi though
[03:59] <Mrono> it's the system tray
[03:59] <Mrono> so when i right click on it
[03:59] <Mrono> it brings up the menu for that item
[04:00] <stoned> Mrono, move the mouse around in the immediate area surrounding the systray, you should see a small black arrow , click it, and then select move
[04:00] <Mrono> oh right
[04:00] <Mrono> I turned those off
[04:00] <stoned> turn those back on
[04:00] <stoned> put them on fade out
[04:00] <Mrono> yeah
[04:00] <stoned> i like to have those as divisors on my panel
[04:01] <stoned> makes it easy for me
[04:01] <natas> do i have to log in as root or i should be able to log in as user?
[04:02] <natas> i tried user and it said connection refused
[04:02] <stoned> natas, is sshd running on linux? is /etc/ssh/sshd_config configured with X11Forwarding On or whatever th eoptin it.  look through there and enable it
[04:03] <natas> k i will
[04:03] <stoned> natas, you have to login with the username/password that exists on linux machine, NOT on osx
[04:04] <natas> i know that much - im guessing its that x11 config on the linux machine
[04:05] <stoned> natas, x11 on my broken scren laptop is not configured, only x-window-system-core is installed, I login with ssh -X user@laptop and i run any app i want
[04:06] <stoned> if you have a connection refused, tell me where you get it
[04:06] <stoned> is the linux not able to connect to the X11 server
[04:06] <stoned> or are you able to login with ssh
[04:07] <natas> i tried ssh as well said refused as well
[04:08] <stoned> hmm
[04:09] <stoned> i dunno your setup, but I do that with my osx box and debian sid
[04:09] <natas> there is no firewall running by default ?
[04:09] <stoned> you should check your osx settings
[04:09] <natas> i disabled on os x---
[04:09] <stoned> you should look on osx/linux networking on google
[04:09] <natas> same thing - error message points to auth on linux
[04:10] <stoned> irc support should really be your last avenue, after you have exhausted all other means
[04:11] <natas> some reason i dont think ssh was installed ; X
[04:11] <natas> i just installed it now going to try
[04:12] <natas> ok i connected now - but how do i pull up a gui?
[04:20] <fatejudger> for some reason my volume seems really low
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Use KMix.
[04:20] <fatejudger> has there been some weird update to alsa?
[04:20] <fatejudger> CheeseBurgerMan: no shit
[04:20] <fatejudger> lol
[04:20] <natas> ping
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[04:22] <fatejudger> I think it's some ALSA update in Dapper
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah, Dapper
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[04:23] <lampshade> ugh, I don't think I have a weather station for my city :-/  how bout that...... damn Nebraska
[04:26] <tristanmike> lampshade, i thought that too, just play with it, you should get it. My town is really obscure and I ended up getting it
[04:28] <tristanmike> Is it possible to change the icon that Katapult associates with any given program/application?
[04:36] <Mrono> HI!
[05:02] <Mrono> hey
[05:02] <Mrono> where can I get an amarok controller
[05:02] <Hobbsee> an amarok controller?  as in what?
[05:04] <Mrono> something that sits on your desktop and controls amarok
[05:04] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:04] <Hobbsee> well, there are shortcut keys that you can set in amarok, if you want to do it that way.  otherwise, i'd say you're looking at a superkaramba theme
[05:05] <Mrono> ah
[05:05] <reid> if i install all of the Kubuntu extras (the graphics, toys, wallpapers ,ect) will it slow it down?
[05:06] <kubby510> im having a lot of trouble with hotplug, can anyone help me?
[05:06] <Steven_M> does anyone here use aptitude?
[05:06] <farous>  Steven_M what is your question
[05:07] <kubby510> hotplug wont load at startup
[05:07] <kubby510> and it wont load when i try to start it in the services menu either...
[05:08] <slloyd> hello, I am a newbie. Can anyone tell me when the next version of kubuntu (dapper) will be out?
[05:08] <Steven_M> farous: typing it out now
[05:10] <Hobbsee> slloyd: 20 april 2006
[05:10] <kubby510> anyone know much about hotplug?
[05:10] <Steven_M> farous: Cedega, is recogised as being installed in adept, but it's not on aptitude's list. I installed Cedega from a local .deb file (not from a repository) does anyone know how to make aptitude find it?
[05:10] <slloyd> thanks hobsee, are there instructions somewhere about how to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[05:11] <Hobbsee> slloyd: are you sure you want to?  it can be quite buggy
[05:11] <farous> Steven_M: that is a prob with aptitude it keeps a seperate list than dpkg and apt-get
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !upgrade2breezy
[05:11] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:11] <Hobbsee> substitute breezy for dapper in that guide
[05:11] <slloyd> thank you very much
[05:11] <Hobbsee> slloyd: if you're new to linux, you probably want to wait a while
[05:12] <slloyd> not new to linux per se, just to ubuntu I have always used rpm based distros before (mandrake)
[05:12] <farous> i am afraid though i do not know a work around. You are luck aptitude wants to uninstall my custom fglrx driver every time i run it
[05:13] <slloyd> I am still getting used to the whole apt thing - but it is very cool, wey better way to upgrade
[05:13] <Hobbsee> true
[05:13] <farous> slloyd: dapper was highly unstable on my test notebook
[05:13] <farous> and once you upgrade you can not down grade
[05:13] <slloyd> re: dapper unstable - I am using a ibook g4 and ubuntu has worked no problem
[05:14] <slloyd> oh :-( you can't do a roll-back if there is a problem?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> farous: without reinstalling
[05:14] <Hobbsee> slloyd: it'd be like going from...mandrake 7 to mandrake 8 or something
[05:14] <Hobbsee> whatever the version numbers are, i dont remember...
[05:14] <farous> Hobbsee: ? reinstalling is not rolling back
[05:15] <slloyd> ah, so wait and see. Good to know. How will I know when the best time to upgrade is?
[05:15] <GameOver69> anyone can tell me how to install azureus 2.4 possibly in the same light u can install firefox 1.5 from the ubuntu wiki?
[05:15] <Hobbsee> farous: well...yeah...but it is a way to get back to the previous version
[05:15] <Hobbsee> slloyd: when a lot of people do, probably in a couple of months
[05:15] <Hobbsee> !azureus
[05:15] <ubotu> azureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[05:15] <Hobbsee> like that?
[05:15] <farous> Hobbsee: agree. yet it was my test pc. a fresh breezy install then an upgrade. whenever i ifup the ethernet the whole pc freeze
[05:15] <slloyd> a couple of months after the official release or from now/
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> only problem I have with dapper is that kde and cups don't cooperate.
[05:16] <Hobbsee> farous: ah yuck, i get that when i pull my wireless driver out
[05:16] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: even if you ignore the warning?
[05:16] <GameOver69> Hobbsee, i was wondering about the enwesst release
[05:16] <GameOver69> 2.4
[05:16] <GameOver69> thats the old relase
[05:16] <GameOver69> and for some reason u cant update it properly
[05:16] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: no warning, it simply tells me it can't talk to cups server.
[05:17] <slloyd> Well, thanks again all, I guess I will check back here when the official release for dapper comes out.
[05:17] <farous> slloyd: install breezy its rock stable. Wait till the official release of dapper is out than enjoy the ride. Coming from Mandrake 9.0 , 10. myself
[05:18] <Hobbsee> too late lol
[05:18] <Steven_M> farous: in that case is there a way to do a purge with adept? All I get from Adept is a remove button.
[05:18] <Hobbsee> GameOver69: compile it yourself, i think - debian doesnt have a newer version than that
[05:18] <farous> yah too late :)
[05:18] <GameOver69> i dont know how to compile
[05:18] <GameOver69> :(
[05:19] <Hobbsee> !compile
[05:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[05:19] <GameOver69> but besides that i mean.... in the wiki... u can put in firefox easily... and update it and everything..... i was wondering if i could do the same thing iwth azureus
[05:19] <farous> Steven_M: sorry i do not use adept. I mainly use aptitude for package management
[05:19] <farous> form the command line
[05:19] <LeeJunFan> What I don't get is why people get mad when an unstable version is um, well, unstable.
[05:19] <Hobbsee> GameOver69: i doubt it, it's packaged completely differently i expect
[05:19] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: hehe yeah.  i dont either
[05:20] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: you use dapper, right?  do you use kopete at all?
[05:20] <Nomad411> !dapper
[05:20] <farous> LeeJunFan: :) i guess you can just smile
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: I don't use dapper very often, I need to be able to print too much. :)
[05:20] <Hobbsee> ok
[05:20] <fatejudger> is there kaffeine-gstreamer for Dapper?
[05:21] <Steven_M> farous: so do have any idea how to purge this package?
[05:21] <farous> Steven_M: which package you wana purge
[05:21] <Hobbsee> Steven_M: apt-get remove --purge packag
[05:21] <Hobbsee> e
[05:21] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: I've got 2 / partitions on my laptop, one for stable install one for devel (to play). Most of the time I do okay with devel releases, I can get by with things not working right for a day or week, but the dapper printing thing puts a big kink in things for me.
[05:21] <farous> sudo apt-get remove
[05:21] <GameOver69> sorry i exited by accident
[05:22] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: definetly, that's what i tend to do as well, before i moved to dapper full time
[05:22] <farous> Hobbsee: much faster than me. I need some time to compile the question ;)
[05:22] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> I am running 3.5.1 on breezy with kopete.
[05:22] <Mrono> hmmm
[05:22] <fatejudger> wtf, gstreamer isn't installed at all in Dapper Flight 4?
[05:22] <Mrono> weird
[05:23] <Mrono> I am getting alot of cpu usage
[05:23] <Mrono> 40%
[05:23] <Mrono> just sitting there
[05:23] <GameOver69> so how can i install the new amorak... my understanding u need the latest beta build of dapper?
[05:23] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: there was a move to xine instead.
[05:24] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: really, why?
[05:24] <Hobbsee> GameOver69: looks like you can get 1.3.8 on breezy.  you do need dapper if you want 1.4 beta1
[05:24] <farous> LeeJunFan: do you know if they are going with the network manager?
[05:24] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: xine video sucks, I can't even fast forward
[05:24] <GameOver69> Hobbsee, is there anyway i can download dapper through apt-get... im too cheap to burn it to cd?
[05:24] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: at least over the network
[05:24] <Steven_M> farous: my cedega package the one I installed from a loacal .deb file that aptitude can't find.
[05:24] <Hobbsee> farous: in dapper?  network manager is having problems, i'm not sure if they're putting it in, knetworkmanager requires lots of things from cvs
[05:25] <Hobbsee> GameOver69: if you want to, but expect lots of bugs
[05:25] <farous> Steven_M: as Hobbsee said use apt-get remove --purge <package name>
[05:25] <GameOver69> Hobbsee, how buggy we talkin about?
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: I dunno what the reasoning was, but I was never able to get gstreamer to work so I've always used xine.
[05:26] <farous> Hobbsee: ok i guess that is what keep breaking my notebook then thanks Hobbsee
[05:26] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:26] <Hobbsee> could well be, i dont konw
[05:27] <fatejudger> I can't even hear anything in Xine
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> Anyone else not able to suspend to RAM with "official" [sic. crap]  ATI drivers.
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> ?
[05:28] <fatejudger> and there's this stupid delay between you turning down the volume and it actually going down
[05:28] <farous> LeeJunFan: i can not do it here neither with the opensource drivers or the prop ones
[05:28] <GameOver69> Hobbsee, ?
[05:28] <farous> and i gave up on it totally. Not a big deal for me here
[05:28] <Steven_M> farous: is there a way I can confirm what the exact package name is?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> GameOver69: different people have different levels of buggyness - they say it's not for production machines
[05:28] <farous> Steven_M: search for it in adept
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> farous: hrm, the opensource ones allow me to, the prop ones will resume to a fubar display.
[05:29] <farous> Steven_M: i prefer synaptic myself
[05:29] <GameOver69> Hobbsee, what do u mean production machines?
[05:29] <Hobbsee> ones that you have to do work on and work all the time
[05:29] <Hobbsee> make sure you know how to troubleshoot a network - seems to be lots of fun problems there
[05:30] <fatejudger> I see what's going on, Xine doesn't have smb:/ support
[05:30] <farous> LeeJunFan: hybernate suspend to ram sleep all break my sys here. As i said though on my laptop i have no problems shutting down and turning on again
[05:30] <fatejudger> is there any way to get that?
[05:30] <farous> break sys = does not work properly
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: I guess what works for one doesn't work for all. heh. xine is flawless for me.
[05:30] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: even over smb:// ?
[05:30] <Mrono> oh I know what it was
[05:30] <Steven_M> farous: ok thanks for your help, and for yours Hobbsee :-)
[05:30] <GameOver69> ok well how do u download the latest build through adept?
[05:30] <Mrono> it was superkaramba
[05:30] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:31] <farous> :)
[05:31] <Mrono> superkaramba was sucking up my sys resources
[05:31] <Hobbsee> ah yes, that's normal
[05:31] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: I haven't used it over smb in a long time, but I cant imagine why that would cause your volume delay even so.
[05:31] <Hobbsee> it likes doing that
[05:31] <Mrono> damn you brenden
[05:31] <Hobbsee> mind you, so does a pbuilder :P
[05:31] <Mrono> I hought you were going to help me rebuild my kernal
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> Mrono: yeah, superkaramba == cpu monitor that uses all your cpu time.
[05:32] <Mrono> lol
[05:32] <LeeJunFan> Mrono: it's not that bad with certain themes though.
[05:32] <farous> Mrono: i use some gdesklets does not consume as much
[05:32] <farous> depends why you use them anyway
[05:32] <Mrono> hmmm
[05:32] <Mrono> gdesklets
[05:32] <Mrono> never heard of em
[05:32] <farous> do not know if it will work on kde though
[05:33] <Mrono> GTK+ might work
[05:33] <LeeJunFan> gkrellm works fine for me. May not be the prettiest but it doesn't turn my fans into scramjets either.
[05:34] <farous> gkrellm working fine here too. have all what i need. gdesklets just for the weather. My demands are not heavy for eye candys
[05:35] <Mrono> unfortunately I am
[05:35] <GullyFoyle> amarok won't start, gives me error about no sound engine plugins
[05:35] <GameOver69> anyone know how to install the latest dapper build through apt-get or some other way wtihout burning to cd?
[05:36] <farous> !dapper
[05:36] <farous> !+dapper
[05:36] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it, or use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[05:36] <Hobbsee> GullyFoyle: apt-get install amarok-xine
[05:37] <GullyFoyle> Hobbsee: i already did that. i also installed gstreamer etc..
[05:37] <farous> GameOver69: basically change breezy to dapper in your sources.list file
[05:37] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[05:37] <GameOver69> anyone in particular?
[05:37] <GameOver69> or all of them
[05:38] <LeeJunFan> Eye candy comes a a price, there's a reason there wasn't eye candy on C= vic 20's you know :)
[05:38] <Hobbsee> now that's cool!  the update
[05:38] <Hobbsee> r
[05:38] <farous> GameOver69: i do not know which repos you have but i did them all
[05:39] <GameOver69> farous, and how does dapper work for u?
[05:39] <farous> GameOver69: it is broken here
[05:39] <GameOver69> farous, so its not worth to upgrade yet?
[05:39] <farous> others had  better luck so it is a chancy decision
[05:39] <Hobbsee> GameOver69: works mostly here, ndiswrapper is borked, there's lots of fun wireless trouble at the moment.
[05:40] <Hobbsee> oh, and checkinstall is borked as well
[05:40] <farous> GameOver69: people upgrade to test it. They know it is not stable so they normally do that on a spare machine
[05:40] <Hobbsee> farous: well...smart people do hehe....
[05:40] <farous> Hobbsee: :)
[05:40] <Hobbsee> :P
[05:40] <fatejudger> CUPS is broken
[05:40] <GameOver69> hmmm... well i already have problems with ndis  wrapper
[05:41] <GameOver69> like my wireless card never starting up with it
[05:41] <GameOver69>  i have to always dhclient
[05:41] <farous> GameOver69: do not think your problems will be easier if you upgrade. Most probably they will get worse
[05:42] <farous> and frankly i find the ethernet here more reliable. Though my card has an open source drive. Wireless is just too much troubles
[05:42] <GameOver69> great... how come they just cant release something easy.... like for instance in windows were u can select the network.. and put in your wep key if needed
[05:42] <Hobbsee> GameOver69: new version of ndiswrapper may well fix that
[05:43] <Hobbsee> GameOver69: it's kwifimanager - doesnt seem to work too well.  also, the network manager in system settings
[05:43] <GameOver69> Hobbsee, theres a new version????? or ur just saying a new version when it comes out might fix it
[05:43] <farous> GameOver69: install network manager works perfect with breezy
[05:43] <GameOver69> Hobbsee, yea i know... it doesnt work well
[05:43] <GameOver69> network manager?... thats a package in adept
[05:44] <farous> network-manager
[05:44] <farous> though it breaks if you upgrade to dapper now ;)
[05:44] <Steven_M> farous: are you still there?
[05:44] <farous> Steven_M: here my friend
[05:44] <GameOver69> ok installing now
[05:44] <GameOver69> i hope it works
[05:45] <farous> !+networkmanager
[05:45] <ubotu> from memory, networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[05:45] <farous> GameOver69: ^   ^ read the howto
[05:45] <farous> there is a setting you need to make to load it
[05:45] <Hobbsee> doesnt that only work with gnome though?
[05:46] <Steven_M> I seemed to have problems, follow this link to see complete output
[05:46] <farous> Hobbsee: worked with me under fluxbox. hmm do not know about kde. GameOver69 better check the howto before installing
[05:46] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[05:47] <Steven_M> farous: http://pastebin.com/571477
[05:47] <tristanmike> How can I make Katapult aware of a program?
[05:48] <Hobbsee> tristanmike: killall katapult, katapult
[05:48] <farous> Steven_M: are you hooked up to the net
[05:48] <Steven_M> yeah
[05:49] <farous> ok type sudo aptitude update
[05:49] <farous> you just need to reload the package list
[05:49] <tristanmike> Hobbsee, cool, thanx
[05:49] <farous> not a big problem
[05:50] <Steven_M> farous: why's that?
[05:50] <farous> and from the post you sent it removed the package
[05:50] <farous> Steven_M: i guess you have not done that for a while
[05:50] <fatejudger> does anyone have CUPS working in Dapper?
[05:50] <fatejudger> KDE doesn't seem to be able to communicate with the CUPS server
[05:50] <Hobbsee> let me try...
[05:50] <farous> Steven_M: ande that is in case new package lists are added to the repos. or new updates are available
[05:50] <Hobbsee> how to reproduce - just add a printer?
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: just open the printer manager should be enough.
[05:51] <farous> hmm can you connect to it through konquer or firefox
[05:52] <Hobbsee> no errors here
[05:52] <farous> localhost:631 if i remember correctly
[05:52] <Hobbsee> trying to add a printer
[05:52] <Steven_M> farous: but I didn't download cedega with apt-get, it was from a 33rd party .deb file.
[05:52] <Hobbsee> slow though
[05:52] <Steven_M> I mean 3rd
[05:53] <farous> Steven_M: apt-get checks for new software or updates on the mirrors on the net when you run it automatically
[05:53] <farous> Steven_M: so it is not specific to the cedega package you removed
[05:54] <Steven_M> farous: oh ok, sorry I'm fairly new
[05:54] <farous> Steven_M: no problem my friend
[05:55] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: freeflying:  it seems ok, i just added a printer thru the control centre, with no problems.  it says it's using CUPS
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: did you add it with a kde app like thru kcontrol->peripherals->printers?
[05:56] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: yep, that's exactly how i did it
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: interesting, I tried just yesterday and it still wasn't working. At the bottom right of the printer control screen in kcontrol it should say how it's connected to cups - do you have localhost:631 or /var/run/cups/cups.sock:631?
[05:58] <Hobbsee> server:  localhost:631
[05:58] <fatejudger> hmm
[05:58] <Hobbsee> did you want a screenshot of what i see, or what?
[05:58] <fatejudger> let me change mine to that
[05:58] <Mrono> man
[05:59] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: that's what mine is set to also. just a min, lemme boot to dapper and do updates.
[05:59] <Mrono> I really don't want to be running my processor so high
[05:59] <Mrono> but I want ym widgets
[05:59] <Hobbsee> i've never changed mine - it worked out of the box
[05:59] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: Flight 4?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: flight 1, then updated.  both times
[06:00] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I think the problem was post Flight 1
[06:00] <Hobbsee> ah ok...
[06:00] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: someone probably had a little brain fart and change the path by accident
[06:00] <Hobbsee> lol
[06:01] <fatejudger> hmm, it's still not working
[06:01] <fatejudger> printing seems to get very little priority
[06:01] <fatejudger> it's sad
[06:02] <Hobbsee> it is
[06:02] <fatejudger> I like the new login screen though
[06:02] <fatejudger> that's pretty cool
[06:02] <Hobbsee> figure it out and write a patch?
[06:02] <fatejudger> heh
[06:02] <Hobbsee> indeed
[06:02] <fatejudger> I'm not that good
[06:02] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: you can code?
[06:02] <Hobbsee> nope
[06:03] <Hobbsee> not yet, anyway
[06:03] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/19661
[06:03] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: lol
[06:03] <Hobbsee> i'm doing some programming in my uni degree
[06:03] <Steven_M> farous: I'm updating the package now
[06:03] <Hobbsee> so hopefully after that, i'll be able to do more...
[06:03] <GameOver69> that network manager never connects
[06:04] <farous> Steven_M: cool
[06:04] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: so you have to build a couple of packages then?
[06:04] <Steven_M> *package list
[06:04] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: yeah, the entire kdenetwork
[06:04] <Mrono> how do I get stuff to boot up with login
[06:04] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: and you know how to do that?
[06:04] <farous> GameOver69: did you check if it is not the router?
[06:04] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I've never taken the time to learn how to build debian packages by hand
[06:04] <LeeJunFan> well, I still don't seem to be able to print but some funky other stuff happened. Apparently Xorg now supports glx with ATI native?
[06:05] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: ?
[06:05] <GameOver69> well i was connected b4
[06:05] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: you mean fglrx?
[06:05] <GameOver69> this disconnected me
[06:05] <farous> in a term type iwlist <wlan0 O eth1 > scan
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: yeah.
[06:05] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: it has for awhile
[06:05] <GameOver69> asks me for my password... and never connects
[06:05] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: months
[06:05] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: not for me until just now.
[06:05] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: you probably had some conflicting driver
[06:05] <farous> GameOver69: did you reboot
[06:05] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: I did
[06:06] <farous> in the howto it say you have too
[06:06] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: it was the Seveas repo
[06:06] <GameOver69> no
[06:06] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: a fresh Dapper install fixed it though
[06:06] <GameOver69> it detected my connections just never logged in
[06:06] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: I only have standard ubuntu repos. My own kernel compiled vanilla, only external driver is madwifi-ng and I haven't changed that stuff in months.
[06:06] <farous> GameOver69: i remember they said you need to reboot to activate some services try that
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: owell, cool anyway.
[06:07] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: are you going to try and fix CUPS?
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> all my fonts are huge now though. hehe
[06:07] <GameOver69> alright doesnt hurt i guess....alright then i can just add that to my start uo script and it shoudl work withiout having to dhclient and iwconfig all the time?
[06:07] <farous> fatejudger: seveas have 3-d accel for the open ati drivers in his repos?
[06:07] <fatejudger> farous: no, he has fgrlx drivers for Breezy
[06:07] <Steven_M> farous: apart from that are you sure cedega was purged properly?
[06:07] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: ah yeah, i hate that - only done that once, and it didnt work properly
[06:08] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: did you get any error at all?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> but i do upgrading bits, and changing bits - just not from scratch
[06:08] <farous> fatejudger: ok.
[06:08] <farous> Steven_M: you can check using synaptic or adept
[06:08] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: for which?  cups?  i did the first time i installed, and just hit ok
[06:09] <Mrono> how do I get stuff to boot up with login
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: when you went into the kcontrol printer module? I get can't connect to cups every time I open it.
[06:09] <Hobbsee> i think i did once, i've not again
[06:09] <LeeJunFan> So I hit it again and I'm trying to add a printer now.
[06:09] <Hobbsee> yep
[06:11] <Steven_M>  farous  ok. is there a way to install a local .deb file through aptitute so that it will know of it's existance?
[06:11] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: you hit what again?
[06:11] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: tell me if you fix it, I really hate switching to Windows to print
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> Hobbsee: okay, I added printer and it didn't show in list until I restarted kcontrol, don't know if I can print yet, if I try I'll probably be looking at a divorce since it's in the room my wife's sleeping in.
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: when you get the error about not connecting to cups, just hit ok. Then add a printer anyway, it won't show up in the list until you stop and start kcontrol again, then once you have a printer installed it doens't error any more.
[06:12] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[06:12] <Hobbsee> yeah
[06:12] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: what about that server thing?
[06:13] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: does it need to be on localhost?
[06:13] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: or the default?
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: yeah
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: localhost:631
[06:13] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: probably work with the path to cups.sock the same way.
[06:15] <Steven_M> farous: that's my last question
[06:15] <farous> shoot Steven_M
[06:15] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: I don't think so
[06:15] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: I tried that same process before
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> I'll be damned, all this time I probably could have been using dapper w/o any real problems. I remember when kde and cups first started integration, that problem was there until you had a printer added, forgot all about it.
[06:15] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: in fact, I don't get that "can't connect to CUPS" error anymore
[06:16] <Steven_M> farous:  is there a way to install a local .deb file through aptitute so that it will know of it's existance?
[06:16] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: someone needs to report the fix
[06:16] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: it's trivial and easy
[06:16] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: what's the fix?
[06:16] <farous> Steven_M: i do not know
[06:16] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: it needs to be set to "localhost"
[06:17] <Steven_M> ok thanks for your help farous :-)
[06:17] <LeeJunFan> Even when I talked with Riddell about it though a couple weeks ago he said dapper and cups were still a no go. hrm.
[06:17] <Mrono> arg
[06:17] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: patch it?
[06:17] <Mrono> how do I resolve this
[06:17] <Mrono> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/metabar_0.7-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/metabar.png', which is also in package konq-plugins
[06:17] <farous> :)
[06:18] <LeeJunFan> there have to have been changed to kde codebase, becuase I know the root of the problem was/is that cups changed their API's.
[06:18] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: you can fix it
[06:18] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: you have access to the packages don't you?
[06:18] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: i wouldnt bet on it
[06:18] <Hobbsee> and anyone has access to it
[06:18] <Hobbsee> apt-get source blah
[06:19] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I meant you can upload them
[06:19] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: the fixes
[06:19] <Hobbsee> to revu?  i thought you could as well
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> I think only Riddell and one other guy have access to the kde core stuff.
[06:19] <Hobbsee> i dont have access to kde core...
[06:19] <Hobbsee> i'm just a packager - more on the outside
[06:19] <Hobbsee> darn it!  it failed!
[06:20] <fatejudger> damn, my color cartridge is running out
[06:20] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: message Riddell
[06:20] <fatejudger> Riddell: ping
[06:21] <crimsun> please file a bug on it and attach a debdiff
[06:21] <Mrono> !pastebin
[06:21] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:21] <fatejudger> wtf is a debdiff?
[06:21] <Mrono> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9289
[06:21] <Mrono> errors
[06:21] <Mrono> can anyone make anything out of em
[06:21] <Mrono> trying to install this
[06:21] <Mrono> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28725
[06:22] <Mrono> got those in the make part
[06:22] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: difference file - *.dsc > blah.debdiff
[06:22] <fatejudger> crimsun: does Kubuntu have its own bug system?
[06:22] <fatejudger> I don't know how to do any of that
[06:22] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: it's in malone
[06:22] <fatejudger> I'm not familiar with the system
[06:22] <Hobbsee> !launchpad
[06:22] <crimsun> fatejudger: no
[06:22] <ubotu> methinks launchpad is a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/
[06:22] <Hobbsee> !malone
[06:22] <fatejudger> who's going to file the bug?
[06:23] <fatejudger> I don't want to file it twice
[06:23] <crimsun> you are.
[06:23] <Hobbsee> you can
[06:23] <fatejudger> gee, thanks
[06:23] <crimsun> "gee, thanks"?
[06:23] <fatejudger> which package is responsible for controlling that stuff
[06:23] <fatejudger> crimsun: in case you didn't catch it, I was being sarcastic
[06:24] <fatejudger> should I just file it under the general package "cups"?
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> so now I suppose that I have 3d accel though I can't suspend/resume. hehe
[06:24] <farous> LeeJunFan: it is worth it
[06:24] <crimsun> fatejudger: sure; we'll reassign as necessary.
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> farous: not for me.
[06:24] <LeeJunFan> farous: I have to go work at other locations a lot.
[06:25] <farous> LeeJunFan: not for games i am not a gamer. but for my presentations they run much smoother now
[06:25] <LeeJunFan> find out in a sec, be ready for ping timeout from me :)
[06:26] <farous> LeeJunFan: read it on the forums that the new opensource ati will support 3-d natively. am not sure if dapper will have it or not
[06:27] <fatejudger> wtf
[06:27] <fatejudger> "something went wrong in launchpad"?
[06:27] <crimsun> tell them about it in #launchpad
[06:28] <fatejudger> lol
[06:28] <fatejudger> now I have to file two bugs?
[06:28] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:28] <crimsun> are you complaining about filing bugs?
[06:28] <crimsun> that's the ENVIABLE position
[06:28] <Hobbsee> bug filing is good for you - just make sure you assign it correctly - unassigned ones are so annoying
[06:28] <Hobbsee> rofl yeah!
[06:31] <fatejudger> wtf
[06:31] <fatejudger> how is filing bugs good for me?
[06:31] <fatejudger> see, this is why people use Windows
[06:31] <Hobbsee> well, you learn how to do it?
[06:32] <farous> fatejudger: its how you payback all the effort that is put in the distro that you use
[06:32] <farous> fatejudger: and good practice for you too to curse ;)
[06:32] <Hobbsee> well, fatejudger doesnt have to contribute
[06:32] <Hobbsee> but it's hard to get things fixed if you dont contribute
[06:33] <fatejudger> true
[06:35] <Hobbsee> i thought you already did a lot of kubuntu stuff fatejudger
[06:35] <LeeJunFan> told ya :p
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> so I suppose if I comment out the 3d stuff from xorg.conf I should be able to suspend/resume again.
[06:36] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: no, not really
[06:36] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I just hang around #kubuntu a lot
[06:36] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: and answer questions
[06:36] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: do you work on skim/scim?
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> farous: btw - I can't suspend with klaptop app, it hangs, but if I killall klaptop_acpi_helper after it does suspend.
[06:36] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: no
[06:36] <Hobbsee> oh, maybe i've got you confused then
[06:37] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I'm too lazy to do any of this stuff
[06:37] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I could do it, I know how to program, but I'm just lazy
[06:37] <crimsun> fatejudger: if you don't file bugs when you find stuff that's broken, how are we supposed to fix them?
[06:37] <Hobbsee> LeeJunFan: i find that suspend works, but is very slow
[06:37] <fatejudger> crimsun: hire a psychic?
[06:37] <farous> LeeJunFan: hmm cool tip. Yet 3-d accel is number one priority here
[06:37] <crimsun> fatejudger: well if it were that easy, why don't you fix them before we write them?
[06:37] <fatejudger> crimsun: to tell you the truth, I didn't know you wanted bugs filed for alpha software
[06:38] <crimsun> fatejudger: you should always file bugs when you find broken stuff
[06:38] <fatejudger> crimsun: I'll keep that in mind next time I have a problem with Kubuntu
[06:38] <crimsun> excellent.
[06:38] <fatejudger> crimsun: Dapper has been getting much better though, this CUPS thing was my last problem I think
[06:39] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: oh, i'm confusing you with freeflying!  silly me!
[06:39] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I don't know him
[06:39] <LeeJunFan> actually hire a physic for the developers to tell them they are about to write a bug and they can then avoid it.
[06:39] <Hobbsee> i thought there was only one long name starting with f
[06:39] <Hobbsee> lol
[06:39] <freeflying> Hobbsee: hmmm...
[06:39] <farous> lol
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> damn all you f'ers!
[06:40] <LeeJunFan> :)
[06:40] <crimsun> LeeJunFan: it'd be better to have psychics for nonsense feature-add user requests so they could be rejected. ;-)
[06:40] <Hobbsee> hehe @ crimsun
[06:40] <crimsun> "well of course Dapper's not going to fix your marriage, sheesh"
[06:40] <fatejudger> crimsun: what's wrong with wishlists?
[06:41] <fatejudger> crimsun: everyone wishes for eye-candy anyway
[06:41] <crimsun> fatejudger: the keyword being nonsense
[06:41] <Hobbsee> it'd be nice if they were actually filed as wishlists too
[06:41] <farous> for me i know all the hardwork that goes into development and for that am just thankfull for the developers
[06:41] <fatejudger> oh wait, I remember my other problem now
[06:41] <farous> if they make a mistake they need a way to know and we are all human. Doing lots of coding and programming and know how stupid pcs can be sometimes ;)
[06:41] <fatejudger> drives get  mounted before Samba gets started
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> Thank you for the developers, and for the code they have delivered unto us this day....
[06:42] <crimsun> Xgl isn't a nonsense feature; it's a useful overhaul
[06:42] <fatejudger> so you can't mount samba shares at boot
[06:42] <fatejudger> crimsun: Xgl is broken in Kubuntu
[06:42] <crimsun> I don't think of things as "eye candy"
[06:42] <LeeJunFan> forgive us our bugs, as we forgive our buggers. :)
[06:42] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: lol
[06:42] <crimsun> fatejudger: malone # ?
[06:42] <fatejudger> crimsun: umm, X freezes when I start it with XGL
[06:43] <fatejudger> crimsun: there's no howto for XGL on Kubuntu
[06:43] <fatejudger> crimsun: so I think I might be setting it up wrong
[06:43] <farous> LeeJunFan: lol
[06:43] <fatejudger> crimsun: it also says it can't find the fglrx module
[06:43] <fatejudger> crimsun: but fglrx works fine...
[06:43] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: can you submit that CUPS bug for me?
[06:43] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: Launchpad isn't working for me
[06:44] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: I keep getting an error
[06:44] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: i cant reproduce it
[06:44] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: don't worry about that, just file the bug
[06:44] <fatejudger> Hobbsee: someone will figure it out
[06:44] <LeeJunFan> I think the localhost:631 was fixed some time ago, but it wouldn't clear itself up because it got saved in your users .kde prefs
[06:44] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: no, I did a fresh install of Flight 4 when it came o ut
[06:45] <fatejudger> crimsun: do you know of any Xgl howto for Kubuntu?
[06:45] <kunjan> [23:44]  [470]  #java ##java Forwarding to another channel
[06:45] <kunjan> [23:44]  [Channel]  You need to be identified to join that channel
[06:45] <kunjan> wht does that mean/
[06:45] <kunjan> ?
[06:45] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bugs
[06:45] <farous> kunjan: you need to register
[06:46] <kunjan> this is kinda offtopic here but how to register?
[06:46] <farous> !+register
[06:46] <ubotu> methinks register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[06:46] <kunjan> thanks guys!
[06:46] <crimsun> fatejudger: are you serious?
[06:46] <crimsun> fatejudger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[06:46] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: if you rm ~/.kde/share/config/kdeprintrc before you login to kde it will start over with defaults, I could swear it was the localhost:631 last time I tried.
[06:46] <fatejudger> crimsun: that's for Gnome
[06:46] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[06:47] <crimsun> fatejudger: it's very much not GNOME-centric
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> What kinda P2P clients are there for Linux that work? mldonkey sucks big-time, and apparently, it's also quite well blacklisted all over.
[06:47] <fatejudger> crimsun: look at step 6
[06:47] <crimsun> fatejudger: and look at step 3
[06:47] <fatejudger> crimsun: I see that
[06:47] <fatejudger> crimsun: now look at step 6
[06:47] <kunjan> got it! thanks!
[06:47] <fatejudger> crimsun: and tell me the KDE equivalent
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> I'm talking the overnet, gnutella2, etc.,
[06:48] <fatejudger> crimsun: because I know that gnome-window-decorator sure as hell isn't for KDE
[06:48] <Mrono>  grr
[06:48] <Mrono> my arts engine keeps crashing
[06:48] <Mrono> but it comes right back  up
[06:48] <crimsun> fatejudger: take a wild guess from http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=compiz-kde&version=dapper&arch=i386
[06:48] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: nope, you're correct. I just created a new user and it's using /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[06:49] <fatejudger> crimsun: there's nothing in there
[06:49] <crimsun> fatejudger: choose another mirror
[06:50] <crimsun> (hint: -rwxr-xr-x root/root     18320 2006-02-19 05:59:33 ./usr/bin/kde-window-decorator)
[06:50] <fatejudger> crimsun: you still didn't answer my question about step 6
[06:50] <crimsun> I just did.
[06:50] <fatejudger> crimsun: so just "kde-window-decorator"?
[06:50] <fatejudger> crimsun: and I still use gedit?
[06:50] <crimsun> fatejudger: instead of gnome-window-decorator
[06:51] <Mrono> how do I un rar things
[06:51] <Mrono> ark doesn't work
[06:51] <crimsun> Mrono: you probably want unrar-nonfree in multiverse
[06:51] <crimsun> !info unrar-nonfree
[06:51] <fatejudger> compiz-kde uses QT 4?
[06:51] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[06:51] <Mrono> "the utility unrar is not in your PATH"
[06:52] <crimsun> fatejudger: yes
[06:52] <fatejudger> crimsun: weird
[06:52] <fatejudger> crimsun: ok, I'm gonna log out of KDE
[06:52] <fatejudger> crimsun: should I print out step 6?
[06:52] <crimsun> if it helps you, sure
[06:53] <Mrono> crimsun:I installed unrar-free
[06:53] <fatejudger> crimsun: can you print out a highlighted selection in Konq?
[06:53] <Mrono> how do I get the nonfree one
[06:53] <fatejudger> Mrono: multiverse
[06:53] <crimsun> Mrono: enable multiverse and install 'unrar-nonfree'
[06:53] <Mrono> they are enabled but i'm not seeing it
[06:54] <crimsun> fatejudger: I don't use Konqueror
[06:54] <Mrono> E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[06:54] <fatejudger> does anyone here know how to print a highlighted selection of text in Konqueror?
[06:54] <crimsun> !tell Mrono about repos
[06:55] <LeeJunFan> I responded to one of the already existing cups bugs on this subject for kde.
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> And I'll ask Jonathan about it next time I see him online.
[06:56] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: thanks
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: you actually printed didn't you? I can't test right now :(
[06:57] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: yeah, it works
[06:57] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: I think they fixed the CUPS margin problem too
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: nice.
[06:58] <fatejudger> ok so, before I restart
[06:58] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to mount smb drives using the fstab?
[06:58] <fatejudger> it tries mounting them before samba is loaded
[06:58] <fatejudger> and doesn't work
[06:58] <fatejudger> I didn't know whether there was a way around that
[06:59] <Mrono> I added those repositories to the sources.list and it just gives me errors galore
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: I think the problem is probably more nmbd not being loaded than samba, what if you put the names of the systems as they appear in your fstab in /etc/hosts, or use IP#'s?
[07:00] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: I am using IPs
[07:00] <crimsun> Mrono: "those repositories"? What're the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list? Use pastebin.
[07:00] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: it still says, "failed"
[07:00] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: hrm, I dunno then. Never done samba shares that way.
[07:00] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: amarok won't read them unless they're mounted
[07:00] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: and xine is crippled too
[07:01] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: it's very disappointing, because it's a pain in the ass to mount them
[07:01] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: especially since I have to turn off my computer every night
[07:01] <Mrono> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9293
[07:01] <fatejudger> ok well, brb
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: that might be the way kde sends the URL's because it tries to access them as smb:/whatever, try editing the menu entry for xine or amarok and change the  to %F.
[07:01] <fatejudger> gonna try to install Xgl
[07:02] <crimsun> mount(8) doesn't do anything with smbfs via /etc/fstab
[07:03] <fatejudger> crimsun: I don't have a ./gnomerc
[07:03] <fatejudger> */,gnomerc
[07:03] <fatejudger> crimsun: that's gnome specific
[07:03] <crimsun> fatejudger: then ignore it
[07:03] <fatejudger> crimsun: what is the KDE counterpart?
[07:03] <kunjan> my Xgl runs fine if i run like "Xgl" but running a term and loading up compiz and gnome-window-dekorator or kde-win*-deco* doesnt work
[07:03] <fatejudger> crimsun: how can I ignore it?
[07:03] <fatejudger> crimsun: I'll have to manually start compiz every time I log in
[07:03] <kunjan> and if i run using kdm it still starts up Xorg server
[07:03] <kunjan> not xgl
[07:03] <crimsun> fatejudger: ask for the KDE equivalent in here
[07:04] <fatejudger> crimsun: cmon, you know what it is
[07:04] <crimsun> e.g., ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:04] <fatejudger> crimsun: that's after KDE starts though
[07:05] <crimsun> fatejudger: about what are you unclear?
[07:05] <fatejudger> crimsun: whether your suggestion to use Autostart will work
[07:06] <crimsun> fatejudger: your question seems to be concerned with how to avoid manually starting compiz each time you log in
[07:06] <fatejudger> crimsun: exactly
[07:06] <crimsun> so what's unclear?
[07:06] <fatejudger> crimsun: so how would I do avoid having to do that?
[07:07] <fatejudger> crimsun: you said using KDE's Autostart
[07:07] <fatejudger> crimsun: but don't you have to run compiz before you start KDE?
[07:07] <crimsun> fatejudger: no
[07:07] <fatejudger> crimsun: ok, thank you for clearing that up then
[07:07] <fatejudger> brb, restarting KDE
[07:10] <fatejudger> crimsun: I just got an error
[07:10] <fatejudger> crimsun: it can't detect my display
[07:11] <fatejudger> crimsun: I think I read something about this, it's an fglrx problem
[07:11] <fatejudger> crimsun: do you know anything about it?
[07:11] <Hobbsee> fatejudger: [17:09]  <-- crimsun has left this server ("'night").
[07:12] <fatejudger> damnit!
[07:12] <fatejudger> now how am I supposed to fix this?
[07:12] <fatejudger> I'm stuck in stupid bitchx
[07:13] <fatejudger> can anyone help me?
[07:13] <fatejudger> I don't think I can join another channel without leaving this one...
[07:14] <Hobbsee> you should be able to - you certainly can with irssi
[07:14] <fatejudger> well then I won't know how to get back
[07:15] <fatejudger> isn't there anyone in here that can help me?
[07:15] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: do you know anything about Xgl in KDE?
[07:15] <LeeJunFan> fatejudger: nope.
[07:15] <fatejudger> damnit
[07:15] <kunjan> whts happening fatejudger?
[07:15] <Mrono> you guys need to get yakuake
[07:15] <fatejudger> compiz can't open my display
[07:16] <fatejudger> Mrono: yes, we all realize how cool it is
[07:16] <Mrono> ok good
[07:16] <Mrono> i didn't talk about it earlier did I?
[07:16] <fatejudger> I doubt it
[07:16] <fatejudger> so
[07:16] <Mrono> ok good
[07:16] <fatejudger> back to my "can't open display" problem
[07:16] <Mrono> I have a bad memory
[07:16] <Mrono> whats up
[07:16] <kunjan> fatejudger: open a terminl in X and "echo  $DISPLAY" whts the output?
[07:17] <fatejudger> kunjan: nothing
[07:17] <kunjan> did u open a xterm?
[07:17] <fatejudger> I'm in the terminal right now
[07:17] <fatejudger> I can't get into KDE
[07:17] <fatejudger> that's my problem
[07:17] <fatejudger> I'm in bitchx
[07:17] <Piete> mrono: Oooh.. that's a nice app :) Thanks telling..
[07:17] <kunjan> start X in a failsafe mode
[07:18] <Mrono> heh
[07:18] <fatejudger> I have an idea, brb
[07:18] <kunjan> ok
[07:18] <Mrono> opengl and 3d acceleartion failed on my computer
[07:19] <fatejudger> well that didn't work out too well
[07:19] <richard2> How I make a newtwork for 2 computers?
[07:19] <kunjan> hmm
[07:19] <kunjan> wht did u try
[07:19] <fatejudger> I tried starting KDE
[07:19] <fatejudger> lol
[07:19] <farous> fatejudger: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:19] <fatejudger> it just hangs
[07:19] <kunjan> whts the command line u use to start compiz?
[07:20] <fatejudger> the one in the ubuntu wiki
[07:20] <kunjan> do u see kde splash?
[07:20] <fatejudger> wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto
[07:20] <fatejudger> no, it hangs
[07:20] <kunjan> try adding --display :0
[07:20] <kunjan> or :1
[07:20] <kunjan> see if that helps
[07:20] <fatejudger> I did
[07:21] <fatejudger> I tried both
[07:21] <fatejudger> I'm wondering whether I should just restart my computer
[07:21] <fatejudger> let me try that
[07:21] <kunjan> can u see kde splash
[07:22] <orugo> hey all
[07:22] <kunjan> should someone tell him that he isnt running windows?
[07:22] <kunjan> lol
[07:22] <orugo> what
[07:22] <kunjan> why the restart
[07:23] <orugo> hey
[07:23] <orugo> is there a new beta ofkubuntu?
[07:23] <kunjan> flight 4
[07:23] <fatejudger> nothing
[07:23] <kunjan> so did that work
[07:23] <kunjan> nope
[07:23] <fatejudger> no
[07:23] <kunjan> ok lets see if ur actually running Xgl or Xorg
[07:24] <_aaron> my sshd ain't working... it only says "fail"
[07:24] <orugo> flight 4 has a live cd right
[07:24] <fatejudger> orugo: yes
[07:24] <kunjan> orugo: i think so
[07:24] <orugo> does it have a .. normal cd?
[07:24] <_aaron> and I need to get flash working ...
[07:24] <orugo> haha
[07:24] <kunjan> fatejudger can u check ur ps output and see wht server ur running?
[07:24] <Mrono> um
[07:24] <fatejudger> both
[07:24] <fatejudger> I'm running both
[07:24] <Mrono> anyone installed ati radon drivers
[07:25] <kunjan> u cant be running both
[07:25] <Mrono> the ati drivers
[07:25] <fatejudger> wait a second
[07:25] <fatejudger> ok, it says that it's running Xorg at runlevel 7
[07:25] <fatejudger> and it's running Xgl at runlevel ?
[07:25] <_aaron> I can't find the ssh log in /var/log
[07:25] <orugo> does anybody try flight 4?
[07:25] <fatejudger> so
[07:25] <fatejudger> it's trying to use Xorg to run KDE atm
[07:25] <kunjan> i have no clue!
[07:26] <kunjan> runlevel 7?
[07:26] <fatejudger> kunjan: that wasn't a question
[07:26] <fatejudger> kunjan: it is running at runlevel ?
[07:26] <kunjan> yeah i got that
[07:26] <kunjan> afaik there is no runlevel 7
[07:26] <fatejudger> tty7
[07:26] <kunjan> yeah
[07:26] <fatejudger> whatever it is
[07:26] <fatejudger> so
[07:26] <kunjan> VT 7
[07:26] <kunjan> virtual terminal 7
[07:26] <fatejudger> how do I go about changing that then?
[07:27] <kunjan> thats fine u dont need to change it
[07:27] <fatejudger> I need to stop Xorg right?
[07:27] <kunjan> yeah
[07:27] <fatejudger> it can't be trying to start KDe
[07:27] <kunjan> do this
[07:27] <kunjan> wait
[07:27] <kunjan> wait
[07:28] <fatejudger> yes, I did symlink it too
[07:28] <kunjan> u have ati or nvidia?
[07:28] <fatejudger> if that's what you're thinking
[07:28] <fatejudger> ati
[07:28] <fatejudger> I'm using fglrx
[07:29] <richard2> someone know how  to make a network in kubuntu for 2 computer?
[07:29] <kunjan> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=739758
[07:29] <fatejudger> richard2: you mean filesharing?
[07:29] <fatejudger> kunjan: I can't read that
[07:29] <kunjan> see that link fatejudger
[07:29] <kunjan> why not?
[07:29] <fatejudger> kunjan: I'm in the terminal
[07:30] <fatejudger> kunjan: bitchx
[07:30] <kunjan> apt-get install lynx
[07:30] <fatejudger> how will I remember that link?
[07:30] <kunjan> thats text mode web brower
[07:30] <fatejudger> I know what it is
[07:30] <fatejudger> but the link is gone already
[07:30] <kunjan> write it down
[07:30] <fatejudger> and I can't scroll up
[07:30] <kunjan> wait
[07:31] <kunjan> open another terminal
[07:31] <kunjan> and
[07:31] <kunjan>   /usr/bin/Xgl :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo
[07:31] <fatejudger> lol
[07:31] <kunjan> tell me does it start xgl?
[07:31] <kunjan> fatejudger u know how to use wget?
[07:32] <kunjan> and do u have it installed?
[07:32] <kunjan> nvermind its easier to type
[07:32] <fatejudger> I just tried it
[07:33] <fatejudger> it isn't working because kdm is already running
[07:33] <orugo> hey
[07:33] <fatejudger> and I can't stop KDM
[07:33] <orugo> does anybody try flight?
[07:33] <orugo> it is good?
[07:33] <orugo> does it work?
[07:33] <fatejudger> I use flight 4, does it look like it's working to you?
[07:33] <orugo> haha
[07:33] <orugo> oh
[07:33] <orugo> sorry
[07:33] <fatejudger> lol, no seriously
[07:34] <fatejudger> it's good
[07:34] <fatejudger> I just screwed it up
[07:34] <orugo> haha
[07:34] <fatejudger> just don't install Xgl
[07:34] <orugo> hahaha
[07:34] <fatejudger> and you'll be fine
[07:34] <orugo> ok
[07:34] <orugo> ill download the live cd
[07:34] <orugo> tks
[07:34] <fatejudger> the live cd isn't that good
[07:34] <fatejudger> better off trying the regular install
[07:34] <orugo> yes but..
[07:34] <orugo> is there a intall cd?
[07:34] <orugo> i just saw the live cd
[07:34] <orugo> (my english sucks)
[07:35] <fatejudger> yeah
[07:35] <fatejudger> there is a live cd
[07:35] <fatejudger> ok, I'm going to have to restart into the recovery mode
[07:35] <kunjan> fatejudeger: to stop kdm type this /etc/
[07:35] <kunjan> fatejudeger: to stop kdm type this /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[07:35] <fatejudger> ok...
[07:35] <kunjan> then open another terminal and execute this
[07:35] <kunjan> Xgl :1 -ac -nolisten tcp -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer & DISPLAY=:1 xterm
[07:35] <fatejudger> not working
[07:35] <fatejudger> it's locked up
[07:35] <kunjan> that cant lock up!
[07:36] <fatejudger> let me restart into recovery mode
[07:36] <kunjan> i got to go
[07:36] <fatejudger> wait a sec
[07:36] <kunjan> i havent figureed out xgl myself
[07:36] <kunjan> ok sure
[07:36] <fatejudger> it'll only take a minute
[07:36] <fatejudger> then you can copy and paste it in here
[07:36] <kunjan> okk!
[07:36] <fatejudger> lol, thanks
[07:36] <fatejudger> I really appriciate it
[07:36] <fatejudger> brb, restart
[07:36] <kunjan> no prob
[07:39] <Mrono> sigh
[07:39] <Mrono> this would be so much easier if I had a linux guru beside me
[07:39] <kunjan> wht is it mrono?
[07:40] <kunjan> ha there
[07:40] <Mrono> trying to install my ati radon 9000
[07:40] <fatejudger> lol
[07:40] <fatejudger> sorry about that
[07:40] <kunjan> lol
[07:40] <fatejudger> I tried the /etc/init.d/kdm stop thing one more time before I gave up
[07:40] <kunjan> Xgl :1 -ac -nolisten tcp -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer & DISPLAY=:1 xterm
[07:40] <kunjan> wht did it do?
[07:40] <fatejudger> I wasn't sure that Xorg would be loaded in recovery mode
[07:40] <kunjan> mrono: i have no clue abt ati h/w
[07:40] <richard2> fatejudger: yes filesharing
[07:40] <Mrono> yep
[07:40] <kunjan> i have nvidia
[07:41] <fatejudger> ok, recovery mode lets me have only 1 terminal open
[07:41] <kunjan> i think u should have some repos for it
[07:41] <kunjan> yeah
[07:41] <fatejudger> so kunjan, I'm gonna have to write that down then get back in here
[07:41] <kunjan> hey
[07:41] <kunjan> u can telinit 3
[07:41] <kunjan> which is textmode for ubuntu
[07:42] <kunjan> that ought to give u multiple terminals
[07:42] <kunjan> i think ;)
[07:42] <Mrono> ok
[07:42] <fatejudger> I'll still have to exit bitch to do that
[07:42] <fatejudger> *bitchx
[07:42] <kunjan> yeah
[07:42] <fatejudger> ok so, brb again
[07:42] <Mrono> i'm configuring the xorg server as told to in the ati walkthrough
[07:42] <kunjan> wht link is it
[07:42] <kunjan> ?
[07:42] <Mrono> what modules do I select to autoload?
[07:42] <kunjan> let me take a look at it
[07:42] <Mrono> !ati
[07:42] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[07:43] <kunjan> fglrx is all u need i think
[07:43] <kunjan> did u add fglrx  to /etc/modules?
[07:44] <fatejudger> ok, that was really unhelpful
[07:44] <fatejudger> lol
[07:44] <fatejudger> get this
[07:44] <fatejudger> it starts up x
[07:44] <kunjan> hmm
[07:44] <fatejudger> and then gives me this tiny ass little terminal
[07:44] <kunjan> yeah
[07:44] <fatejudger> so I've been downgraded
[07:44] <kunjan> r u in that terminal?
[07:44] <fatejudger> yeah
[07:44] <kunjan> ok
[07:44] <kunjan> u have kde right?
[07:44] <fatejudger> yeah
[07:44] <kunjan> ok do this
[07:45] <kunjan> exit that terminal, type "kwin & ; konsole &"
[07:45] <kunjan> shit
[07:45] <fatejudger> ?
[07:45] <kunjan> dont exit the terminal
[07:45] <fatejudger> lol
[07:45] <kunjan> exit bitchx
[07:45] <Mrono> here
[07:45] <fatejudger> ok
[07:45] <kunjan> and type that
[07:45] <Mrono> i'll give you some options
[07:45] <kunjan> yeah mrono?
[07:45] <Mrono> !pastebin
[07:45] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:46] <Mrono> yep
[07:46] <Mrono> 3.5
[07:46] <Mrono> !pastebin
[07:46] <fatejudger> kunjan: should I exit and do that command?
[07:46] <fatejudger> kunjar: or do you have something else to add?
[07:46] <Mrono> sorry about what i'm about to do
[07:46] <Mrono> which one
[07:46] <Mrono> i use the drop down one
[07:46] <Mrono> i'm still in the xorg config
[07:46] <kunjan> did u try this mrono? As of november 2005, ATI provides usable, properly packaged drivers which can be used on Ubuntu. They can even be installed easily!
[07:46] <Mrono> here man
[07:46] <Mrono> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9296
[07:46] <Mrono> which ones do I select
[07:47] <fatejudger> kunjan: I guess I'll try that command then...
[07:47] <fatejudger> brb
[07:47] <richard2> someone know how to filesharing?
[07:47] <fatejudger> richard2: install NFS
[07:47] <Mrono> !ntfs
[07:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:49] <kunjan> mrono not sure... do u have this command on ur system? aticonfig --initial
[07:49] <Mrono> not sure
[07:49] <kunjan> that should set up ur xorg.conf automagically
[07:49] <Mrono> let me check
[07:49] <kunjan> richard2 look at samba docs
[07:49] <fatejudger> ok, so now my windows are KDEized
[07:49] <kunjan> yeah
[07:49] <kunjan> now
[07:50] <fatejudger> and it started an instance of Konsole
[07:50] <kunjan> now check if ur running xorg or xgl
[07:50] <Mrono> mrono@weridkid:~/Desktop$ sudo aticonfig --initial
[07:50] <Mrono> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:50] <Mrono> Found fglrx primary device section
[07:50] <Mrono> mrono@weridkid:~/Desktop$
[07:51] <kunjan> hmm thts it?
[07:51] <fatejudger> Xgl is in tty1
[07:51] <fatejudger> damnit
[07:51] <kunjan> dyeah
[07:51] <kunjan> now
[07:51] <fatejudger> it's freezing
[07:51] <kunjan> wht?
[07:51] <kunjan> freezing wht?
[07:51] <fatejudger> tty1 Grabbing the mouse failed with "GrabInvalidTime"
[07:52] <kunjan> weird
[07:52] <fatejudger> ok so
[07:52] <fatejudger> Xgl is in tty1
[07:52] <fatejudger> Xorg is in tty2
[07:52] <kunjan> its screwed man
[07:52] <kunjan> lol
[07:52] <fatejudger> lol
[07:52] <fatejudger> shouldn't I just manually stop Xorg?
[07:53] <kunjan> i gave up on installing xgl dont have time to mess with it
[07:53] <kunjan> i m gonna sleep now man
[07:53] <kunjan> good luck!
[07:53] <fatejudger> alright, thanks
[07:53] <richard2> fatejudger nsf-common?
[07:53] <kunjan> later!
[07:53] <fatejudger> richard2: I think so
[07:53] <fatejudger> damn, I'm screwed
[07:54] <Mrono> now what kunjan
[07:54] <richard2> ok
[08:05] <firephoto> jfyi, i rebooted the kubuntu dapper box just now, meant to go into gentoo at the grub prompt but missed it by a moment, hit esc after that, maybe another key(s), got a root@kubuntu prompt, whoami says root
[08:10] <Mrono> brb rebooting
[08:34] <richard2> Someone know How make a file sharing?
[09:03] <Mrono> hi
[09:03] <Mrono> !seen brenden_
[09:03] <Mrono> darn
[09:03] <ubotu> Mrono: i haven't seen 'brenden_'
[09:05] <Mrono> hmm
[09:05] <Mrono> I need some help recompiling my kernal to support my wifi
[09:06] <Mrono> he said he was going to be here today
[09:06] <Mrono> well he said he hoped he was going to be here
[09:06] <Mrono> o-well
[09:21] <Eiscreme> hi
[09:21] <Eiscreme> is kubuntu  Debian  unstable?
[09:23] <Psi-Jack> Eiscreme: Ummm.. What?
[09:23] <Psi-Jack> Eiscreme: No, Kubuntu is Kubuntu.
[09:24] <Eiscreme> Psi-Jack: but it is based on Debian?
[09:24] <Eiscreme> Psi-Jack: may I tell you why I ask that?
[09:24] <Psi-Jack> It is not Debian. It's based on Debian, but is not Debian.
[09:25] <Eiscreme> Psi-Jack: knoppix / kanotix and mepis are also  Distributions
[09:25] <Eiscreme> they all are based on debian but now they are their own distros
[09:25] <Eiscreme> well, the problem was:
[09:25] <Eiscreme> when I wanted to update software or install new software,  I always had to say a prayer if it works or not
[09:26] <Eiscreme> because sometimes something broke
[09:26] <Eiscreme> the worst thing was libc6 that broke
[09:26] <Psi-Jack> Okay?
[09:26] <Eiscreme> libc6 disturbed near my whole PC just because of ONE program I wanted to install
[09:26] <Eiscreme> well
[09:26] <Eiscreme> the reason why I tell you this story:
[09:26] <Eiscreme> can something like this happen with kubuntu?
[09:27] <Mrono> not that I know of
[09:27] <Mrono> this is pretty stable
[09:27] <Psi-Jack> It could.
[09:27] <Mrono> well
[09:27] <Mrono> nigth kiddies
[09:27] <Psi-Jack> But it's doubtful.
[09:28] <Eiscreme> hum
[09:28] <Eiscreme> one last question:
[09:28] <Eiscreme> what makes kubuntu good?  (versus debian sarge)
[09:28] <Eiscreme> maybe you think kubuntu is better, otherwise you would not use it
[09:28] <Psi-Jack> Eiscreme: It's updated every 6 months, and not once every 2-3 years.
[09:29] <Eiscreme> so what makes kubuntu better than debian?
[09:29] <Eiscreme> hum
[09:29] <Eiscreme> Psi-Jack: but when debian is only updates every 2-3 years,  the packages are up2date ?
[09:29] <Eiscreme> or am I wrong?
[09:31] <Psi-Jack> Debian Sarge still only has KDE 3.2.something, while Kubuntu has KDE 3.5.1 available to it, released initially with 3.4.2
[09:39] <pulver> hi! installed kde (3.4) from ubuntu install.. how do you get kde to automount a cd?
[09:40] <Psi-Jack> First of all, upgrade to kde 3.5.1. Instructions at kubuntu.org
[09:40] <pulver> Psi-Jack: ok thanks will do.. after cleared som hdd space
[09:41] <Psi-Jack> Second, anything in /etc/fstab for your CDROM drive(s) should be set to mount in /media/* instead of /mnt (Kubuntu's installer should have done that automatically).
[09:43] <Eiscreme> does Kubuntu give me X by default or do I have to configure things?
[09:43] <pulver> ok now it says /media/cdrom0
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> Eiscreme: Yes.
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> Kubuntu comes with X and KDE, preinstalled. That's what the K in Kubuntu means. Ubuntu, the base distribution, comes with Gnome preinstalled.
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> Or you can opt to do a server install, and get very minimal, up front.
[09:47] <Eiscreme> Psi-Jack: thats cool
[09:47] <Eiscreme> thank you very much!
[09:55] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm on kubuntu 5.10 now, if I want to start using the testing release (not unstable) what changes to i need to make to my apt sources to switch over?
[09:55] <stoned> how can i install all the real/quicktime/microsoft codecs for kde?
[09:56] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell stoned about w32codecs
[09:56] <stoned> i have that package installed already
[09:56] <stoned> but only mplayer will play wmv files etc.
[09:56] <FliesLikeABrick> vlc is also good
[09:56] <FliesLikeABrick> i'm not sure about quicktime, but there is a linux version of realplayer
[09:56] <stoned> konqeuror doesn't even show previes for anything except those codecs.  anything like real/ms/qt won't have previes either
[09:56] <stoned> and i have properly configures
[09:57] <stoned> everything is selected in preives and hugest possible file size
[09:59] <Psi-Jack> stoned: Mind you, they're not for KDE specifically.
[09:59] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry stoned  i don't know anything about konqueror plugins
[10:02] <Psi-Jack> stoned: To be frank, there's no "good" media plugins for Mozilla/Konqueror that are really "good"
[10:02] <fatejudger> is there a way to call Xorg functions by using KDE's keyboard mapping system?
[10:02] <fatejudger> I don't really want to have to use xmodmap
[10:03] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: KDE already uses Xkb.
[10:03] <fatejudger> ?
[10:03] <Psi-Jack> They didn't reinvent the wheel. They just utiilized what Xorg already provided.,
[10:03] <fatejudger> I need it to call Xorg functions like XF86AudioLowerVolume
[10:03] <fatejudger> can the KDE keyboard mapping thing do that?
[10:03] <fatejudger> I tried it, but I couldn't get it to work
[10:04] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: So setup the keyboard mapping in KDE's Control Center, and set it to do it, where you want. kmix for example, will use XF86AudioVolumeUp, or whatever.
[10:04] <fatejudger> ?
[10:04] <Psi-Jack> If you have KDE 3.5.1 of course.
[10:04] <fatejudger> I do
[10:04] <fatejudger> I tried putting in the function name
[10:04] <fatejudger> but it wouldn't work
[10:04] <fatejudger> it just would do a Konq search for the function name
[10:04] <fatejudger> it was weird
[10:04] <Psi-Jack> Umm.
[10:05] <Psi-Jack> What exactly are you doing?
[10:05] <Psi-Jack> And what are you TRYING to do?
[10:05] <fatejudger> System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility
[10:05] <fatejudger> -> Input Actions
[10:05] <fatejudger> I'm trying to set some keys to raise, lower, and mute the volume
[10:05] <fatejudger> win + "+"
[10:05] <fatejudger> win + "-"
[10:06] <fatejudger> win + "*" = mute
[10:06] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: Do you have a multimedia keyboard?
[10:06] <fatejudger> no
[10:06] <fatejudger> lol
[10:06] <fatejudger> I'm trying to cheat
[10:06] <fatejudger> see?
[10:06] <Psi-Jack> I see.
[10:06] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: : Then, do this. Open up kmix
[10:06] <fatejudger> got it
[10:06] <fatejudger> ohhhh
[10:06] <fatejudger> I see what you're going to do
[10:06] <Psi-Jack> Setitngs, Global Shortcuts
[10:06] <fatejudger> yeah
[10:06] <fatejudger> but then the thing is
[10:06] <fatejudger> you don't get that cool dialogue
[10:06] <Psi-Jack> Yes, yes, you do.
[10:06] <fatejudger> really?
[10:07] <Psi-Jack> Umm, Yeah.. kmix 3.5.1 has a little popup dialog that tells you what's going on.
[10:07] <Psi-Jack> I rather... Big, very well noticable one,. heh
[10:08] <fatejudger> I don't see it
[10:08] <fatejudger> are you using Dapper?
[10:08] <Psi-Jack> Works on mine. No I'm not.
[10:08] <fatejudger> ah, that might be why
[10:08] <fatejudger> volume lower doesn't work either
[10:08] <Psi-Jack> Shouldn't be.
[10:09] <Psi-Jack> Because, 3.5.1 is ported BACk from Dapper.
[10:09] <Psi-Jack> Did you set the shortcuts?
[10:09] <fatejudger> yeah
[10:09] <fatejudger> but
[10:09] <fatejudger> I have Xorg 7.0
[10:09] <fatejudger> so it might be different
[10:09] <Psi-Jack> So?
[10:09] <fatejudger> it calls functions from Xorg
[10:09] <Psi-Jack> Xorg7 still uses xkb
[10:10] <fatejudger> well it isn't showing the cool volume thingy
[10:10] <fatejudger> so apparently something is going on
[10:10] <fatejudger> which is causing it not to show it
[10:10] <Psi-Jack> Something else could already have those shortcuts bound.
[10:10] <fatejudger> no
[10:10] <fatejudger> the actual process of lowering and raising the volume works
[10:10] <fatejudger> but
[10:11] <fatejudger> the dialogue thing
[10:11] <fatejudger> it doesn't show up
[10:11] <Psi-Jack> Try restarting kmix?
[10:11] <fatejudger> nothing
[10:12] <Psi-Jack> Purhaps your KDE configuration is messed up. Try it with a different user.
[10:12] <Psi-Jack> different/new user, that is.
[10:12] <micand> Hello ... I'm on a brand new install of Kubuntu on a ATI X1900 video card, and I can't get X working. The tail of my Xorg.0.log is here: http://pastebin.com/571592. Thanks in advance!
[10:13] <fatejudger> wtf, I just installed Dapper 3 days ago
[10:13] <fatejudger> it can't be messed up already
[10:13] <fatejudger> it must be the fact that I have Xorg 7
[10:13] <fatejudger> there's no other explination
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> Try it.
[10:14] <jmstylr> hi, i just upgraded kde to 3.5.1, and now kdm doesn't start automatically on boot. i can start it manually and it runs fine. anybody know what's going on?
[10:14] <fatejudger> a new user?
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> Yes.
[10:14] <fatejudger> I'll just delete my KDE config files
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> Or that.
[10:14] <fatejudger> or maybe not
[10:14] <fatejudger> don't want to erase all of my settings
[10:15] <pulver> uhm tried the mirrors listed at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php and get a gpg error when trying to update :( any ideas?
[10:15] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: Or you could just mv .kde .kde-backup
[10:16] <Psi-Jack> While not logged in, of course.
[10:16] <Psi-Jack> Into KDE that is. :)
[10:16] <fatejudger> probably easier to create a new user
[10:16] <pulver> nevermind got it (no sleep)
[10:17] <fatejudger> brb
[10:18] <Psi-Jack> You know.
[10:18] <Psi-Jack> You can load another session without logging out, right? :)
[10:21] <fatejudger> well that sucked
[10:21] <Psi-Jack> oh?
[10:22] <fatejudger> yeah, I didn't have the permissions set right or something
[10:22] <fatejudger> I wish they would default it to the permission that you need to run your sound system, at the very least
[10:22] <Psi-Jack> Did you create a new user, and not add them to the audio group? :)
[10:22] <fatejudger> I thought I selected all the ones that my account had
[10:22] <fatejudger> but apparently not
[10:23] <fatejudger> adm, admin, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video
[10:23] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, looks sane.
[10:23] <fatejudger> no, that was for my own reference
[10:23] <fatejudger> I thought I could copy and paste it
[10:23] <fatejudger> but for some reason it wouldn't let me
[10:24] <fatejudger> I just bought a gig of RAM a couple of days ago
[10:24] <fatejudger> it's the best purchase I've made in awhile
[10:24] <Psi-Jack> Oh, I bet.
[10:24] <fatejudger> Kubuntu runs amazing
[10:25] <fatejudger> well, I did buy this awesome freaking 24 inch widescreen dell monitor
[10:25] <Psi-Jack> Widescreen? Nice. :)
[10:25] <fatejudger> yeah, that was a treat
[10:25] <Psi-Jack> Only 24" though? Not so nice.
[10:25] <fatejudger> lol
[10:25] <fatejudger> wtf?
[10:25] <fatejudger> that's the second biggest monitor they make
[10:25] <fatejudger> aside from the 30 inch one
[10:25] <fatejudger> which requires two DVI inputs
[10:26] <Psi-Jack> Hehehe
[10:26] <Psi-Jack> I was kidding. :p
[10:26] <fatejudger> and costs 2,100 bucks
[10:26] <fatejudger> a little out of my price range...
[10:26] <fatejudger> 920 already hurt enough
[10:26] <fatejudger> anyway, brb, switching users
[10:26] <Psi-Jack> I've got 3 26" widescreens. :)
[10:28] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:28] <fatejudger> it's amazing how little RAM Kubuntu uses vs Windows
[10:28] <fatejudger> anyway
[10:28] <fatejudger> didn't show the audio thing
[10:28] <noteventime> Mine uses a lot less :S
[10:29] <fatejudger> then again. I'm not running any desktop widgets right now
[10:29] <fatejudger> so I have to give it that
[10:29] <fatejudger> and Linux uses up a bit of RAM doing that pre-emptive tasking thing
[10:29] <fatejudger> I forget what it's called
[10:29] <noteventime> prelinking?
[10:30] <pulver> what kde pkgs should one upgrade from 3.4 to 3.5? dont want to break stuff and looks like can't upgrade the kde meta pkg...
[10:31] <noteventime> You can't, it worked for me, i think installing only some KDE packages would break it...
[10:31] <noteventime> Does someone know how to change the background image that appears between KDM-login and the splashscreen
[10:32] <Psi-Jack> pulver: Why can't you upgrade by the kde meta package?
[10:32] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: should I try just doing xmodmap manually?
[10:32] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: xmodmap is old, and deprecated in favor of xkb.
[10:33] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: what is xkb?
[10:33] <Psi-Jack> It's part of X. heh. Been part of Xorg for a long time.
[10:33] <fatejudger> really?
[10:33] <Psi-Jack> Uhh yeah.
[10:33] <fatejudger> well then that must be what KMix uses
[10:33] <fatejudger> so
[10:33] <fatejudger> I guess I'm out of options then
[10:33] <Psi-Jack> No, that's what KDE uses.
[10:33] <fatejudger> ok
[10:33] <fatejudger> which would mean that KMix uses it
[10:34] <fatejudger> so set the Global Shortcuts
[10:34] <fatejudger> *to
[10:34] <_tim> hi all
[10:34] <pulver> Psi-Jack: hehe guess it works after all.. just didnt see the option in synaptic.. so went cli
[10:35] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: Not sure, exactly. I think for event handling, KDE uses it's own interfaces. It uses xkb for keyboard layouts.
[10:35] <fatejudger> what should I try doing then?
[10:35] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:35] <fatejudger> it works on my Breezy laptop
[10:35] <fatejudger> with xmodmap
[10:35] <fatejudger> I haven't tried it with the kmix global shortcuts
[10:36] <Psi-Jack> Heh. Wow.. You must be old school-ish, to not keep up with some things. ;)
[10:36] <fatejudger> lol, no
[10:36] <fatejudger> the laptop volume keys just aren't recognized by KDE
[10:36] <fatejudger> I had to manually stick them in there
[10:37] <Psi-Jack> Ahhh.
[10:38] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: it doesn't work on my laptop
[10:39] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: can't I just call that function?
[10:39] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: XF86AudioRaiseVolume
[10:39] <fatejudger> ?
[10:39] <fatejudger> I just want to bind that set of keys to that function
[10:40] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, That you could do. That, still requires the use of xmodmap. ;)
[10:40] <fatejudger> lol
[10:40] <fatejudger> yeah
[10:40] <fatejudger> I'd rather do it the hard way and get the cool volume notifier
[10:40] <fatejudger> than have nothing at all
[10:40] <Psi-Jack> Which, I'm not saying you can't do. :)
[10:40] <Dreamstar> hello all
[10:40] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:40] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: I don't understand why it's working for you though
[10:41] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: Because I'm actually USING XF86AudioRaise/LowerVolume from the use of my xkb-mapped multimedia Logitech Coordless Freedom keyboard.
[10:41] <Dreamstar> i have a prob trying to compile Superkaramba 0.37 coz it reports that cpp is not correctly installed, but i checked with synaptic and i have it, how is it possible?!?
[10:41] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: ?
[10:42] <Psi-Jack> Mayhaps, That dialog only works, when those XF86Audio* signals are caught.
[10:42] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: how did you map it?
[10:42] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: I used KControl.
[10:42] <noteventime> Well, that didn't work att all :(
[10:42] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: where in Kcontrol?
[10:42] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: Selected my keyboard layout.
[10:42] <noteventime> :/ Hmmm... Anyone knows how to change the background image that is shown after login and before splash?
[10:43] <Dreamstar> anybody  helping me?:)
[10:43] <noteventime> Sure, whats the problem?
[10:43] <Dreamstar> i have a prob trying to compile Superkaramba 0.37 coz it reports that cpp is not correctly installed, but i checked with synaptic and i have it, how is it possible?!?
[10:43] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: I used the Regional & Accessability -> Keyboard Layout.
[10:43] <noteventime> You probably don't have everything you need to compile
[10:44] <noteventime> There is a package called build-essential
[10:44] <noteventime> Install that
[10:44] <Dreamstar> ok i try
[10:44] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: And, so the volume knob on my keyboard, sends XF86AudioRaiseVolume and XF86AudioLowerVolume
[10:44] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: did you call the functions manually?
[10:44] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: No.
[10:44] <noteventime> Dreamstart: I think that is what you need
[10:44] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: then how did you set it up?
[10:44] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: There's an xkb map for my keyboard.
[10:45] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: In other words. I didn't have to do anything overly complicated, since I /have/ a multimedia keyboard. ;)
[10:45] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: can you look at the individual keys?
[10:45] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: see what it calls to acheieve the results?
[10:45] <Psi-Jack> fatejudger: Not there, no.
[10:46] <fatejudger> Psi-Jack: well that's a bunch of crap
[10:46] <Dreamstar> noteventime: thx i'm trying this, i think the prob is that it tries to find cpp in a dir while it is in another one
[10:46] <noteventime> We can take a look if you want?
[10:46] <noteventime> sudo locate -u
[10:46] <noteventime> first
[10:47] <Dreamstar> noteventime: it worked now!!! :D it asks me to install KDE headers but the prob with cpp is gone, thx very much :)))
[10:47] <noteventime> np
[10:48] <noteventime> Have fun :)
[10:48] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:49] <Dreamstar> noteventime: eheh with linux i always have fun (5 days without using windows till now and counting ^^)
[10:49] <noteventime> Nice :)
[10:50] <Dreamstar> i'm writing php scripts in a pure apache/php/mysql enviroment, what to ask more?!? :D
[10:50] <noteventime> Dreamstar: gcc and g++ are installed into directories that are in the path, yes like the one found in windows, thats why I didn't think it was in another directory
[10:50] <noteventime> :)
[10:50] <noteventime> Dreamstar: Manually set up or xampp?
[10:50] <Dreamstar> manually ;)
[10:50] <noteventime> nice
[10:50] <Dreamstar> that's the fun :D
[10:51] <noteventime> Have you tried AJAX?
[10:51] <Dreamstar> nope, what is it?
[10:51] <noteventime> It's like a javascript thingy which makes you able to call a php script without reloading the site
[10:52] <Dreamstar> wow!
[10:52] <noteventime> You can make "realtime" websites :)
[10:53] <Dreamstar> i was even looking for something to make my php redistribuitable, like compiling my scripts in "exe" file so that they could be usable even without a call on the net, do u think is possible?
[10:53] <noteventime> Yes
[10:53] <noteventime> That is possible, but not as an exe
[10:54] <Dreamstar> mmm tell me more
[10:54] <noteventime> You can use the php binary
[10:54] <noteventime> Some PHP IDEs use that for previewing
[10:55] <noteventime> you can run like: php thepage.php <---- Not the real command
[10:55] <noteventime> Its pretty easy if you know basic javascript. I've almost never used Javascript, not in a few years anyway, and I figured out how to use it in less then an hour.
[10:55] <noteventime> ^- ajax that is
[10:56] <Dreamstar> mmmm in this way is possible to have "standalone" php programs?
[10:56] <noteventime> Yes
[10:56] <Dreamstar> even on a windoze system?
[10:56] <noteventime> I think it generates a html file
[10:56] <noteventime> yes
[10:57] <Dreamstar> ok so i'll look for the php binaries right?
[10:57] <noteventime> so you could make a script that runt the file through php and open the generated html
[10:57] <noteventime> Dreamstar: yep
[10:57] <Dreamstar> thx :)
[10:57] <noteventime> np
[10:58] <noteventime> Dreamstar: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-ajaxintro1.html  this is a lot more fun though ;)
[10:59] <Dreamstar> looking at it right now :) thx^^
[10:59] <noteventime> hehe
[11:01] <pulver> what do you type to upgrade kde? sudo apt-get upgrade kde says 250 not upgraded....
[11:02] <noteventime> try dist-upgrade
[11:03] <Dreamstar> btw be sure that u've set the repositories with the new version
[11:03] <Dreamstar> ah btw anyone here a part me using dapper drake?
[11:03] <noteventime> pulver: Du r svensk va?
[11:04] <noteventime> Yes, i do
[11:04] <Dreamstar> which are ur impressions on it noteventime?
[11:04] <noteventime> It's way better than breezy :)
[11:04] <noteventime> Lots of stuff fixed :)
[11:05] <Dreamstar> LOL :) and btw even if it's a development version i think it's stable at least and even more than breezy!
[11:05] <noteventime> I've had nearly no problems at all
[11:05] <pulver> wouldnt that upgrade evrything? yea the 3.5 versions are available... (japp svensk :)
[11:06] <noteventime> pulver: Bredbandsbolaget avsljade dig :D, distupgrade upgrades everything, yes
[11:07] <noteventime> But why wouldn't you want to upgrade everything?
[11:07] <Dreamstar> me too! never had probs! it works so smoothly
[11:07] <noteventime> I've had a few dependency errors...
[11:08] <noteventime> Do you have the new KOffice beta too?
[11:08] <Dreamstar> pulver last KDE version is 3.5.1, it has been made avaible even for breezy users
[11:08] <Dreamstar> noteventime: nope, i'm openoffice addicted ^^
[11:08] <noteventime> Hehe, I like openoffice but i wan't to use KDE apps as much as possible, I love the KDE integration
[11:09] <Dreamstar> Koffice support the odt document as openoffice do?
[11:09] <noteventime> I suppose so :) I havn't been able to install it :P
[11:10] <noteventime> depends on something called kexi :(
[11:10] <Dreamstar> nver heard of it :S
[11:10] <Dreamstar> ah noteventime did u notice that even in dapper when u click on th K menu it still shows 5.10 ? :D
[11:11] <pulver> hehe frstod det.. yeah maybe im using the wrong repos then pkgs are like 3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1/2/3
[11:11] <Molea> how can I get Kmail to open links in FireFox and not Konqueror?
[11:11] <noteventime> pulver, yes there are newer ones :)
[11:12] <noteventime> Molea: In the user settings there is a tab called prefered applications
[11:12] <Irvine> how to install amarok themes?
[11:12] <noteventime> in amaroK settings dialog
[11:12] <noteventime> pulver: just a min i will get the repo for you
[11:13] <noteventime> pulver: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main
[11:13] <noteventime> Dreamstar: Lol, no i hadn't noticed that
[11:14] <noteventime> Dreamstar: It shows dapper drake at boot and shutdown though
[11:14] <Dreamstar> yep samehere! but in the K menu it says Kubuntu 5.10 ^^
[11:15] <noteventime> :) Man, thats irritating :P
[11:15] <pulver> noteventime: danke maybe that will do it
[11:15] <Dreamstar> noteventime: to develop using AJAX u use some kind of frameworks, of IDEs?
[11:15] <noteventime> Dreamstar: You dont need too
[11:16] <noteventime> It's an IBM tutorial so they make some adverticing about websphere :P
[11:16] <Irvine> how to use baghira?
[11:16] <Dreamstar> ah ok
[11:16] <Irvine> anyone
[11:16] <noteventime> Install and change in window deco and style
[11:17] <noteventime> Whats wrong with my English today :S
[11:17] <noteventime> Irvine: Just install it and choose it in Window decorations and style
[11:18] <_vincent> hi, I have a CD-DVD writer with different speeds for writing CD and DVD, which one should I input in k3b as the maximum speed ?
[11:19] <Molea> noteventime: thanks :-)
[11:19] <noteventime> np
[11:19] <Irvine> noteventime: how?
[11:19] <noteventime> Irvine: Have you installed it?
[11:19] <Irvine> yeah
[11:19] <noteventime> from apt-get/adept?
[11:20] <Irvine> ok
[11:20] <noteventime> ?
[11:20] <noteventime> It was a question :)
[11:20] <Irvine> i install it by apt-get
[11:20] <noteventime> good
[11:20] <noteventime> now start system settings
[11:21] <Dreamstar> _vincent: it depends on how ur writer is burnfree or not
[11:21] <Irvine> ok
[11:21] <noteventime> now go to appearence
[11:21] <Dreamstar> _vincent: i have an old LG 32x10x40x and i use k3b at 32x with no prob at all
[11:21] <Irvine> ok
[11:22] <noteventime> irvine: now go into style
[11:22] <noteventime> Found it?
[11:22] <Irvine> yes
[11:23] <noteventime> In the widget style menu choose baghira
[11:23] <tameritoke> Hey people... why do you you make the wiki under SSL?
[11:23] <Irvine> ok
[11:23] <noteventime> now press apply
[11:24] <noteventime> but dont close the window
[11:24] <noteventime> Everything working till now?
[11:24] <Irvine> yes
[11:24] <noteventime> Now go to window decoratipon
[11:25] <noteventime> in the dropdown menu choose baghira
[11:25] <noteventime> Then press apply
[11:26] <noteventime> Irvine: Looking good? :)
[11:27] <Irvine> yes
[11:27] <noteventime> There are some ways to get more appleish look
[11:28] <noteventime> There is a guide on the webpage, do you want me to send you the link?
[11:28] <Irvine> yeah
[11:28] <pulver> noteventime: thanks for the repo.. still don't get why the pkgs are held back when trying to upgrade them...
[11:29] <noteventime> pulver: Thats strange :/
[11:29] <noteventime> irvine: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[11:29] <noteventime> pulver, lets see....
[11:29] <noteventime> pulver: Would you mind upgrading to dapper drake?
[11:30] <Irvine> noteventime: need to download xorg?
[11:30] <noteventime> irvine: no, you don't have to install enythiing
[11:30] <noteventime> irvine: It's all installed already :), skip down to the configuration part
[11:32] <pulver> hehe.. yea maybe thats the way to go
[11:33] <Irvine> where is CAT configuration?
[11:33] <noteventime> pulver: It's easy, only change breezy to dapper and remove the repo i gave you
[11:34] <Irvine> noteventime: how?
[11:34] <noteventime> irvine: configuring the cat, apple baghira, i think :P
[11:34] <noteventime> irvine let me see
[11:35] <noteventime> irvine: start "Step 2: I want a Mac OS X like menubar!"
[11:35] <noteventime> All above isn't needed
[11:35] <_tim> hi all has anyone had trouble connecting to yahoo via kopete?
[11:36] <pulver> noteventime: ok yea will do in a min.. after freeing some hdd space :)
[11:36] <noteventime> pulver: I can send pastebin my sources.list so you can get the new amaroK too
[11:36] <Dreamstar> noteventime: sry do u know how to locate where something has been installed?
[11:37] <noteventime> Dreamstar: Either press details in adept
[11:37] <pulver> noteventime: what's that?
[11:37] <Dreamstar> well the package isn't displayed as installed in adept or synaptic :S
[11:37] <noteventime> or locate -u (creates a database of all your files) then locate WHAT_EVER_YOU_WANT_TO_FIND
[11:37] <Dreamstar> ok i'll use the second way, thx :D
[11:37] <noteventime> pulver: The best music player availible to man kind :)
[11:38] <noteventime> Dreamstar: Np
[11:38] <Dreamstar> lol :D
[11:38] <noteventime> The only player availible even remotely as good as amaroK is bansee
[11:38] <pulver> noteventime: lol so it plays music thats great
[11:39] <Irvine> noteventime: how to change amarok themes?
[11:39] <noteventime> Irvine: Its in the options menu :)
[11:39] <noteventime> Irvine: I'll take a closer look
[11:40] <noteventime> Irvine: Settings->configure amaroK->appearence->install theme
[11:40] <noteventime> !pastebin
[11:40] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[11:41] <Dreamstar> mmmmm---with locate it seems i have not superkaramba but it still start from the K menu! strange...
[11:42] <Irvine> noteventime: thanks
[11:42] <noteventime> Dreamstar: you did make install right?
[11:42] <noteventime> Irvine: np
[11:42] <Dreamstar> yep noteventime
[11:42] <noteventime> pulver: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9298 <- thats my config, it uses swedish mirrors, mostly
[11:42] <Irvine> noteventime: is there any file sharing program for linux?
[11:43] <pulver> watching the screenshots amarok looks pretty cool
[11:43] <Dreamstar> i'll try restarting the system...brb
[11:43] <pulver> noteventime: ok ty
[11:43] <noteventime> Irvine: sure, bittorrent dc++ and frostwire
[11:43] <noteventime> pulver: frostwire uses the limewire network
[11:44] <noteventime> !register
[11:44] <ubotu> register is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[11:45] <noteventime> Irvine: bittorrent it the best bet for larger things, while frostwire is nice for small things
[11:45] <Irvine> how to install frostwire?
[11:46] <noteventime> sudo apt-get install frostwire
[11:46] <raphink> Irvine: there is one way to install stuff on Ubuntu
[11:46] <raphink> well one way to install them easily
[11:46] <raphink> ;)
[11:46] <Irvine> how?
[11:47] <raphink> apt-get
[11:47] <raphink> once you know that, you don't really have to wonder how to install stuff
[11:47] <raphink> Irvine: as noteventime told you
[11:47] <Irvine> Couldn't find package frostwire
[11:47] <raphink> hmm
[11:47] <noteventime> hmmm
[11:47] <raphink> yeah, frostwire is not in ubuntu :p
[11:47] <Hentai^XP> you mean the repos ro w] e?
[11:47] <noteventime> Ahhhh i think its in universe
[11:48] <raphink> what is it btw?
[11:48] <samoura> noteventime
[11:48] <Hentai^XP> by the way
[11:48] <samoura> :) hI
[11:48] <Hentai^XP> BTW
[11:48] <pulver> noteventime: swedish mirrors for universe,multiverse.. do they have all the apps available?
[11:48] <noteventime> samoura: 'ello
[11:48] <samoura> #samoura and help me please ;(
[11:48] <samoura> what zup
[11:48] <noteventime> pulver: Yes
[11:48] <Hentai^XP> oh nm raphink lol thought you asked "what is btw"
[11:48] <raphink> Hentai^XP: :p
[11:48] <Hentai^XP> got a new computer!
[11:48] <pulver> noteventime: nice
[11:49] <raphink> hmmm
[11:49] <raphink> frostwire looks like yet another amule clone
[11:49] <noteventime> pulver: I've had problems with one mirror, i changed it to german
[11:49] <samoura> TUPAC shakur is alive :D
[11:49] <raphink> emule
[11:49] <noteventime> frostwire is limewire
[11:49] <noteventime> gnutella
[11:49] <Irvine> emule slow
[11:50] <arrinmurr> Irvine: download, unpack, run "java -jar FrostWire.jar". but first you need java if you don't have it already - http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/frostwire/FrostWire-4.10.9-1-AnyOS.zip?download
[11:50] <pulver> noteventime: ok
[11:50] <raphink> Irvine: if you want frostwire in Ubuntu, you can add it here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates
[11:50] <Irvine> raphink: how to add it?
[11:51] <raphink> Irvine: this is a wiki ... you edit the page, you write a line for frostwire the way other lines are written, and you save
[11:51] <djib> hey
[11:51] <Irvine> i download frostwire packages for ubuntu
[11:52] <Dreamstar> mmmm it stills run superkaramba even if it looks i don't have it on my pc O__O
[11:52] <djib> Is there a bandwidth monitor for Kubuntu ?
[11:52] <freeflying> raphink: I think this page need impovement, then we can know package is in which status
[11:52] <Irvine> i downloaded frostwire package for ubuntu
[11:52] <raphink> freeflying: you're welcome to improve it :)
[11:52] <Irvine> now how to install it?
[11:52] <raphink> Irvine: then you run sudo dpkg -i thenameofyourfile.deb
[11:52] <samoura> is there a utorrent for linux :P i want it
[11:52] <samoura> ?
[11:53] <djib> or a command in konsole to type and get the size of my transfers for the last few hours ?
[11:53] <freeflying> raphink: or merge this into lauchpad , it will be more easier for the guy prepare to package
[11:54] <raphink> freeflying: that would be called RFPs then
[11:54] <raphink> freeflying: or ITPs ;)
[11:54] <raphink> freeflying: we'll have to get to that if Ubuntu keeps growing imo though
[11:54] <raphink> so we'll end up with (Closes : Malone #XXXXX) changelogs on REVU soon enough ;)
[11:57] <raphink> freeflying: given the huge number of requests on the page, it could be interesting to introduce the need for RFPs at next TB maybe
[11:58] <noteventime> pulver: Is it working out for you?
[11:59] <Dreamstar> anybody knows if XEN can create even windoze virtual images?
[11:59] <Hobbsee> raphink: RFP?
[12:00] <raphink> Hobbsee: well taht's what this page is about
[12:00] <Hobbsee> ah
[12:01] <raphink> Hobbsee: well this is a list of candidates for universe
[12:02] <raphink> Hobbsee: in other words : programs users want to have in Ubuntu
[12:02] <Hobbsee> oh, that page, right, yes
[12:02] <raphink> Hobbsee: if they were dealt with on LP, it would be logical to use RFPs for these
[12:02] <Hobbsee> true
[12:03] <voicu> i got kde 3.5.1 off the net and when i run make i get errors like "file abc.o not found". how can this be? (configure worked all right)
[12:03] <raphink> Hobbsee: so if there comes to be too many requests that'll be the easiest way
[12:03] <Hobbsee> true
[12:03] <raphink> voicu: why would you compile it ?
[12:03] <noteventime> voicu: Why not get it from the repos?
[12:04] <pulver> noteventime: it is :) downloading/upgrading "the stuff" hopefully it wont break but dont mind its fun anyway.. ty for your help
[12:04] <noteventime> pulver: NP, worked without any problems for me
[12:04] <voicu> last time i did that i got it from the repos i messed up the system
[12:04] <raphink> voicu: you're gonna mess up your system much more by compiling it imho
[12:04] <voicu> so i tried to compile it
[12:05] <raphink> voicu: especially if you're already not able to compile it yourself
[12:05] <raphink> if you compile kde on your system and install it, apt-get will lose the track of the existence of these files
[12:05] <raphink> so you won't control anything in kde through apt-get anymore
[12:05] <raphink> you better be really good to do that ;)
[12:05] <voicu> i know... the thing is that it worked yesterday and now it doesn't
[12:05] <noteventime> apt-get everything and use deb packages for everything else: )
[12:05] <voicu> i use checkinstall to keep track of what i install
[12:06] <raphink> and given that kde is very easy to compile and you failed, I'm pretty sure you should use the binary packages
[12:06] <raphink> you use checkinstall on KDE ???
[12:06] <voicu> why not?
[12:06] <raphink> I can't imagine the mess you get with that ;)
[12:07] <raphink> especialy that it will create packages with totally differrent names as the ones we have officially
[12:07] <raphink> so you'll just prevent your computer from ever upgrading KDE
[12:07] <voicu> hmm, nobody said that when they suggested it to me
[12:07] <raphink> voicu: who suggested you to use checkinstall on KDE?
[12:07] <raphink> I mean to compile KDE and use checkinstall
[12:08] <voicu> i don't know, someone on irc
[12:08] <raphink> voicu: whoever did that surely doesn't know much about KDE packages in Debian/Ubuntu systems
[12:08] <raphink> imo you're pretty sure to break everything on your system with that
[12:08] <voicu> when i asked about how to uninstall stuff
[12:08] <raphink> so that to upgrade to next official KDE or Ubuntu
[12:08] <raphink> you'll need to deinstall all your checkinstall KDE stuff manually
[12:08] <raphink> one by one
[12:09] <raphink> and install the official packages again
[12:09] <voicu> ok, great :P
[12:09] <raphink> voicu: really, I will never advise anyone but a developer to install KDE by compiling
[12:09] <raphink> unless you want to have fun
[12:09] <noteventime> voicu: Upgrade to dapper drake :)
[12:09] <raphink> or you are running a slack
[12:09] <Chousuke> raphink: unless he's a gentoo user
[12:10] <raphink> Chousuke: no, a slack user
[12:10] <raphink> Chousuke: gentoo users don't build from tar.gz
[12:10] <voicu> oh, right, i forgot... the idea was to install two versions of kde on the same computer
[12:10] <Chousuke> well, they do
[12:10] <Chousuke> but it's automated
[12:10] <voicu> all this trouble made me forget the main purpose :P
[12:10] <Chousuke> I wanted to install some KDE apps on my system but funk doesn't work ;p
[12:10] <Chousuke> fink*
[12:10] <dwkr> hi
[12:11] <raphink> Chousuke: you're on MacOS?
[12:11] <raphink> hi dwkr
[12:11] <dwkr> i need some help
[12:11] <Chousuke> raphink: yes.
[12:11] <raphink> voicu: do you want a working system, upgradable and all? or are you just playing around ?
[12:11] <noteventime> dwkr: Just ask, don't ask about asking :D
[12:11] <freeflying> Chousuke: what's u meant "fink dosen't work"
[12:11] <Chousuke> freeflying: it fails
[12:12] <raphink> Chousuke: ah! I had it work pretty well some time ago
[12:12] <Chousuke> it fails at building python :/
[12:12] <voicu> raphink: well, i wanted to install kde 3.5.1 and keep kde 3.4.0 too. if i like the new one i'll keep it and forget 3.4
[12:12] <dwkr> i have just finished to put dapper drake but at xorg configuration the sreen start corrupt
[12:12] <raphink> voicu: and how do you plan to do that?
[12:13] <raphink> voicu: why, tell me, don't you use Kubuntu Dapper Flight 4 to test kde 3.5.1 on live CD ?
[12:13] <dwkr> so i dont know what i have put for root password
[12:13] <voicu> by installing kde 3.5.1 in a different directory and i can't do that by installing packages, right?
[12:13] <raphink> voicu: instead of bugging your system like this
[12:13] <voicu> i wanted to see if i'm able to do it
[12:14] <raphink> voicu: if you want to try out kde 3.5.1, why don't you use a live CD ?
[12:14] <raphink> voicu: oh right ;)
[12:14] <raphink> well then fine
[12:14] <raphink> do it :)
[12:14] <Chousuke> installing KDE from sources is a painful process.
[12:14] <dwkr> how do i change/remove root password, but i dont have the old one
[12:14] <raphink> Chousuke: no, its not, it's just very long
[12:14] <Chousuke> raphink: yes, that's what I meant ;P
[12:14] <raphink> dwkr: do you have a root password already?
[12:14] <noteventime> dwkr: if you havn't created one yes, sudo passwd root
[12:14] <Chousuke> and if it fails, you'll be pissed.
[12:14] <dwkr> sure but i dont know it
[12:15] <raphink> Chousuke: hehe yes
[12:15] <voicu> the thing is that make doesn't find some files. i didn't change anything in the sources. how can that happen?
[12:15] <Chousuke> raphink: and remember that he will have to resolve any dependencies manually too
[12:15] <dwkr> ok noteventime i trie that
[12:15] <raphink> dwkr: how do you know you've got one ?
[12:15] <raphink> voicu: what do you use to compile kde ?
[12:15] <dwkr> just press enter fo the reste of installation but dont know what 've do
[12:15] <raphink> Chousuke: yes, I know that, thats' what I said : he''s going to bug his system entirely
[12:16] <raphink> dwkr: did you install in expert mode?
[12:16] <Chousuke> raphink: it's possible to do cleanly too
[12:16] <voicu> i have gcc3.3, g++ 3.3, automake 1.9 and all the dependant packages
[12:16] <dwkr> passwd: password updated successfully
[12:16] <Chousuke> just install to /usr/local/
[12:16] <dwkr> no normal mode
[12:16] <noteventime> yo kitsch :)
[12:16] <dwkr> it seem i dont have one before :p
[12:16] <raphink> dwkr: then you had no root password so far, and it would have probably been better to keep none
[12:16] <voicu> raphink: if configure works, why does make give me errors?
[12:16] <raphink> by default you have no root password, adn that's how it's meant to be
[12:17] <dwkr> thanks
[12:17] <raphink> voicu: because you might miss some dependencies I guess
[12:17] <dwkr> i have one now
[12:17] <raphink> voicu: many times, configure works and make fails ;)
[12:17] <raphink> voicu: tens of times a day I'm afraid I get configure scrits that are happy with everything, and make fails
[12:17] <raphink> pff
[12:18] <voicu> raphink: ok, that seems a nasty job trying to get all the dependencies
[12:18] <raphink> noteventime: imo it's better to explain users why they don't have a root password and how to use sudo ...
[12:18] <dwkr> damn adept not working
[12:18] <voicu> i guess i'll leave it alone :P
[12:18] <raphink> voicu: it's a horrible job. Ask Riddell about it ;)
[12:19] <raphink> dwkr: adept won't be working with your root password
[12:19] <noteventime> raphink: I always think they already know but need su for some reason :)
[12:19] <raphink> noteventime: ask before thinking this
[12:19] <raphink> s/thinking/assuming/
[12:19] <noteventime> raphink: Yes, i know i should have :P
[12:19] <raphink> ;)
[12:19] <dwkr> raphink: it doesnt load anything
[12:19] <dwkr> it doesnt ask any password
[12:20] <raphink> voicu: you'll need to set your kde paths manually, too
[12:20] <noteventime> dwkr: Do you know how to use sudo?
[12:20] <dwkr> yeah
[12:20] <dwkr> sudo command :p
[12:20] <raphink> hhmpf
[12:20] <dwkr> type password
[12:20] <raphink> why would you need a root account dwkr ?
[12:20] <noteventime> dwkr: Your better of using sudo, only use su if you realy need to
[12:20] <voicu> raphink: that i managed, thankfully
[12:21] <noteventime> You need an root account to install crossoveroffice
[12:21] <raphink> ah
[12:21] <dwkr> adept asked me root password
[12:22] <noteventime> You use your own :)
[12:22] <noteventime> it uses sudo :)
[12:22] <raphink> dwkr: adept asks your own password, using kdesu (equ. of sudo)
[12:22] <raphink> noteventime: s/sudo/kdesu/ this is very differnt although the result is the same
[12:23] <raphink> noteventime: kdesu is not sudo, it asks for your own password, but makes you root (like user root) whereas sudo doesn't make you root but only gives you root rights
[12:23] <Hobbsee> ok, i think i'm back lol
[12:23] <raphink> Hobbsee: it seems you are
[12:23] <noteventime> raphink: Really, I should have known that when trying to install crossoveroffice
[12:24] <raphink> noteventime: ;)
[12:24] <raphink> noteventime: using sudo -i has quite the same effect, too, imo
[12:24] <Hobbsee> raphink: been having lots of fun with this new kernel freezing, or just plain not booting - now most recently my kopete wouldnt sign in - i just gave up and went to 2.6.15-15-386
[12:24] <raphink> Hobbsee: argh
[12:24] <raphink> the kernel boots fine here, but the comp doesn't shut down ;)
[12:25] <Hobbsee> heh great
[12:25] <Hobbsee> had some of that too - power button works well
[12:25] <raphink> lol
[12:25] <raphink> I think it's kdm again, that doesn't want to be shut down
[12:25] <Hobbsee> ugh
[12:25] <raphink> Hobbsee: yeah sure ;)
[12:25] <raphink> I think I'll be installing DF5 when it comes out
[12:25] <Hobbsee> this is revenge for saying that i wasnt having many bugs, wasnt it!
[12:25] <raphink> or maybe even DF4
[12:26] <raphink> having a brand clean account
[12:26] <raphink> with Tonio's settings :)
[12:27] <Hobbsee> good idea
[12:31] <dwkr> rhaa
[12:34] <tomas_> hello people
[12:34] <noteventime> 'ello
[12:34] <tomas_> is there anyone that can help me with some packeting?
[12:35] <noteventime> :) I'll do my best
[12:35] <Hobbsee> some packeting?
[12:35] <tomas_> :)
[12:35] <tomas_> ah :P
[12:35] <tomas_> i have a package with a depency problem on dapper drake
[12:35] <stoned> I want to run amarok/etc. or other apps which use sound, that are running on laptop, so send thier sound over to the arts server running on desktop.  so that i don't have to keep switching wires.  like all the laptop sound gets to desktop ove the network and comes out of my desktop speakers
[12:35] <tomas_> but there is package in dapper drake that can replace it
[12:35] <tomas_> so i want to go inside the .deb file and change the depency
[12:35] <tomas_> dependency
[12:36] <noteventime> ok
[12:36] <tomas_> do you know how?
[12:37] <noteventime> Open the deb file in ark and take a look :9
[12:37] <tomas_> i have
[12:37] <tomas_> i changed the depency in control also
[12:37] <tomas_> and used dpkg
[12:37] <tomas_> to build the package
[12:37] <tomas_> it worked
[12:37] <raphink> noteventime: now that is a dirty practice
[12:37] <noteventime> :)
[12:37] <raphink> hehe
[12:37] <tomas_> but when i try to install it complains something about rm
[12:37] <tomas_> *-)
[12:38] <noteventime> rm?
[12:38] <tomas_> yes
[12:38] <tomas_> i will try to translate it into english :P
[12:38] <noteventime> raphink: Now I only helped him/her, It was his/her idea :-) I'm compleatly inocent, hehe
[12:38] <raphink> tomas_: paste it as is
[12:38] <raphink> noteventime: yeah yeah
[12:39] <tomas_> raphink: in swedish?
[12:39] <tomas_> raphink: are you sure about that ;)
[12:39] <raphink> tomas_: if you there is a dependency issue in dapper drake, I'd rather you report it to malone so it's fixed officially
[12:39] <raphink> tomas_: ja :)
[12:39] <noteventime> gr s
[12:39] <tomas_> aha
[12:39] <tomas_> s ni r svenskar :P
[12:40] <tomas_> men hjlp
[12:40] <tomas_> vad man ska jobba sig :P
[12:40] <raphink> :)
[12:40] <raphink> noteventime: ah du talar svenska ?
[12:40] <noteventime> Borde ha stt p telia.se
[12:40] <noteventime> raphink: Hehe, tydligen
[12:40] <raphink> hehe :)
[12:40] <Chousuke> Meh.
[12:40] <tomas_> "rmdir" p paketets kontrollinformation "usr" svarade inte "ej katalog": Katalog inte tom
[12:41] <raphink> tomas_: ok go on paste your output
[12:41] <raphink> tomas_: and please reoprt the bug, so everybody benefits from the fix
[12:41] <raphink> tomas_: even even post a patch if you fixed thebug
[12:41] <Chousuke> It's been so long since I studied swedish that I don't even understand all of that ;P
[12:41] <raphink> Chousuke: kind of same here ;)
[12:41] <tomas_> raphink: maybe i should tell you that this deb isnt a part of the repository :p
[12:41] <raphink> tomas_: what deb is it?
[12:42] <Chousuke> tomas_: that's normal then I suppose.
[12:42] <tomas_> raphink: it's called ktechlab and is working in dapper drake (expect that any packager manager removes it due to dependecy problem
[12:42] <raphink> tomas_: do you plan on getting it in Ubuntu?
[12:42] <tomas_> http://ktechlab.org/
[12:42] <Chousuke> tomas_: I've gotten that sometimes. It doesn't really hurt.
[12:43] <tomas_> it just the depency were changed to kdelibs4c2a or whatever it's called it wont complain
[12:43] <tomas_> if
[12:43] <tomas_> dependency
[12:43] <raphink> tomas_: seems like a nice app, you could try to get it in Dapper+1
[12:43] <tomas_> oki
[12:43] <noteventime> tomas_ I had that one too
[12:43] <noteventime> tomas_ I compiled it though
[12:43] <raphink> tomas_: then building it again would b emuch better, if you can find the package sources
[12:43] <tomas_> i will try to look into the .deb once again cause i saw that the data.tar.gz was empty :$
[12:44] <raphink> the dependencies will be updated automatically with your version of the libs
[12:44] <raphink> looking into the deb is dirty
[12:44] <noteventime> hehe
[12:44] <raphink> building it is the way
[12:44] <tomas_> but
[12:44] <noteventime> bad hacks are nice :)
[12:44] <tomas_> i wonder where there aren't any good graphical .deb maniupulator
[12:44] <tomas_> why
[12:44] <raphink> tomas_: because we never work on .deb files
[12:45] <tomas_> =?
[12:45] <tomas_> mkay
[12:45] <raphink> tomas_: we build deb files for installation
[12:45] <noteventime> You create deb files
[12:45] <raphink> but we never edit them
[12:45] <raphink> or quite
[12:45] <raphink> tomas_: when you create an openoffice document
[12:45] <raphink> would you ever try to read and mofidy the binary ?
[12:45] <raphink> that would be stupid
[12:46] <noteventime> :) but geek
[12:46] <tomas_> it would
[12:46] <raphink> noteventime: I make a different between geek practices and useless/stupid ones
[12:46] <tomas_> but .deb isn't oo documents ;)
[12:46] <raphink> tomas_: .deb is binary stuff
[12:46] <tomas_> there are some readable data in .debs
[12:46] <noteventime> raphink: Useless geekish stuff :D
[12:46] <raphink> it contains binary contents
[12:46] <tomas_> okioki
[12:47] <tomas_> back to source then
[12:47] <raphink> tomas_: we work on the sources
[12:47] <tomas_> any good tutorial to do packeting?
[12:47] <raphink> orig.tar.gz, diff.gz and dsc
[12:47] <tomas_> packeting for n00bs
[12:47] <raphink> tomas_: sure, the New Debian Maintainer's Guide
[12:47] <tomas_> i hope its a crash course :p
[12:47] <Hobbsee> lol
[12:48] <Hobbsee> it's certainly comprehensive
[12:48] <tomas_> just what i didnt want to hear :p
[12:48] <raphink> tomas_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Packaging/Tips
[12:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:48] <tomas_> does anyone knows the status for libfmod?
[12:48] <tomas_> are we gonna se it soon?
[12:48] <raphink> tomas_: Dapper Drake is in FeatureFreeze
[12:48] <raphink> so if it's not in now, it won't be in 2 months
[12:48] <raphink> ;)
[12:49] <raphink> that's the status
[12:49] <tomas_> if i dont fix it myself then :p
[12:49] <tomas_> motiviation to learn :p
[12:49] <tomas_> vation
[12:49] <raphink> if you want packages in Ubuntu, you get them in ;)
[12:49] <raphink> tomas_: the best way for you to be sure to get ktechlab in  Dapper+1 is to get it in yourself
[12:49] <tomas_> i will see what i can do then :)
[12:49] <tomas_> thank you all for your help :)
[12:49] <tomas_> have a nice day
[12:50] <tomas_> hej d ;)
[12:50] <raphink> tomas_: hand on on #ubuntu-motu for help
[12:50] <raphink> #kubuntu is not for packaging stuff, #ubuntu-motu is
[12:50] <raphink> ;)
[12:50] <tomas_> thank you
[12:50] <tomas_> bye
[12:50] <raphink> hej da, tomas :)
[12:51] <noteventime> Hehe, mnga svenska som anvnder kubuntu XD
[12:53] <raphink> noteventime: hehe
[12:53] <raphink> but french people are already taking it over :p
[12:54] <noteventime> haha
[12:54] <raphink> hehe
[12:55] <raphink> and we have Riddell and dholbach on our side :p
[12:55] <noteventime> i found 5 others
[12:55] <noteventime> by looking at domain
[12:55] <raphink> for what?
[12:55] <raphink> ah?
[12:55] <noteventime> In the user list omn the right
[12:55] <raphink> let's see
[12:56] <noteventime> kitsch and malte
[12:56] <noteventime> are those i remember right now
[12:56] <samoura> is there a boy who is a irc Pro ?
[12:56] <samoura> is there a boy who is a irc Pro ?
[12:57] <raphink> what's the problem samoura ?
[12:57] <noteventime> osh_
[12:57] <raphink> what is it that you want most? a boy or an irc pro?
[12:57] <noteventime> What about a female IRC pro?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:58] <noteventime> awwww is swedish
[12:58] <Hobbsee> noteventime: females dont exist on the internet
[12:58] <noteventime> ahhh
[12:58] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:58] <noteventime> pulver is awwww
[12:58] <raphink> anyone has seen Hobbsee around?
[12:58] <noteventime> Yes
[12:59] <Hobbsee> raphink: hmmm?
[12:59] <noteventime> :)
[12:59] <raphink> I can't see her
[12:59] <raphink> seems she's disappeared
[12:59] <raphink> doh! females don't exist on the internet
[12:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:59] <yello> hi everyone im having some problems playing dvds has anyon experienced this before?
[12:59] <Hobbsee> of course, yes
[12:59] <Hobbsee> i'm an illusion
[12:59] <raphink> yello yello
[12:59] <yello> sorry to interupt
[12:59] <yello> lol hi
[12:59] <raphink> did you install libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2 yello?
[12:59] <yello> ... no
[01:00] <yello> ill check on adept
[01:00] <raphink> then do
[01:00] <yello> thanks
[01:00] <Hobbsee> raphink: noteventime and whoever else:  http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27
[01:00] <noteventime> you need to add PLF repos
[01:00] <raphink> you won't find libdvdcss2 on adept though yello
[01:00] <pulver> this dist-upgrade thingy is gonna take all day lol
[01:00] <raphink> noteventime: noooooooooo!
[01:00] <raphink> no plf repo please
[01:00] <noteventime> libdvdcss are in the PLF repos
[01:00] <raphink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:00] <noteventime> haha, you dont like those either?
[01:00] <raphink> libdvdcss can be installed from libdvdread3 with a script
[01:01] <raphink> I don't want users to have plf and then complain about non official debs they can't control
[01:01] <raphink> noteventime: we try to make ubuntu reliable
[01:01] <raphink> using plf doesn't help
[01:01] <yello> ok via terminal
[01:01] <yello> :D
[01:01] <noteventime> raphink: comeon it's like three ppackages
[01:02] <raphink> noteventime: no, it's like a repository in sources.list
[01:02] <noteventime> w32codecs libdvdcss and the sun-jre
[01:02] <yello> it all seems to be working
[01:02] <raphink> yello good
[01:02] <Dreamstar> hei people anybody has fixed the prob with sound configu?
[01:02] <noteventime> you can remove it afterward :)
[01:02] <yello> i had libdvdread
[01:02] <yello> just not the libdvdcss2
[01:02] <raphink> what problem Dreamstar ?
[01:02] <yello> fingers crossed
[01:03] <raphink> yello oh ok
[01:03] <raphink> so you just had to launch the script
[01:03] <Dreamstar> i mean about device being busy for the system sounds so that other app can't use that device
[01:03] <yello> woah
[01:03] <yello> thanks so much
[01:03] <yello> linux is just gettin easier and easier
[01:03] <yello> thanku all so much :D
[01:03] <noteventime> Dreamster: You could tunnel through artsdsp
[01:04] <Dreamstar> artsdsp?how to use it?
[01:04] <noteventime> artsdsp THE_APPLICATION
[01:05] <noteventime> Some apps start throught scripts, and raphink probably won't let me tell you to add artsdsp to the starter script
[01:05] <Dreamstar> so for example i should put "artsdsp" before the calling of the app iin the K menu noteventime?
[01:05] <noteventime> yes
[01:05] <raphink> noteventime: hehe
[01:05] <noteventime> just try it in the termina l first
[01:05] <iwang> helo2
[01:05] <noteventime> to see that it works
[01:05] <raphink> noteventime: I'd so like users to report all the things they find to malone, that would be so helpful
[01:05] <noteventime> iwang: 'ello
[01:05] <iwang> ello
[01:06] <noteventime> Why isn't there a way to make evertthing go through artS :)
[01:06] <Dreamstar> artsdsp is an application? it looks i dont have it
[01:06] <iwang> sumone
[01:06] <iwang> can u help me for mounting drice
[01:06] <iwang> *drive
[01:06] <noteventime> drice?
[01:06] <noteventime> aha
[01:06] <noteventime> sure
[01:06] <iwang> can u pm me
[01:07] <noteventime> Why?
[01:07] <iwang> hehe
[01:07] <iwang> easy to communicate
[01:07] <Dreamstar> damn adept doesnt find artsdsp :(
[01:07] <noteventime> its installed
[01:07] <noteventime> by kde
[01:07] <iwang> actually
[01:07] <Dreamstar> ah ok i'll try so
[01:07] <iwang> i got 3 partition
[01:07] <noteventime> iwang: better do it here so others can se
[01:07] <noteventime> ok
[01:08] <iwang> but rite now only one can be read/open
[01:08] <noteventime> raphink can tell you whats dengerous to do, haha :D
[01:08] <raphink> noteventime: :p
[01:08] <_samoura> noteeventime
[01:08] <raphink> iwang: what are the formats of each of your partitions ?
[01:08] <noteventime> sorry, I just had tp
[01:08] <iwang> ntfs
[01:08] <hatake_kakashi> !tell iwang about ntfs
[01:09] <raphink> iwang: you know you won't be able to write on ntfs, and only be able to read as root
[01:09] <iwang> ntfs for windows rite
[01:09] <raphink> untill you get to Dapper
[01:09] <raphink> iwang: yes
[01:09] <raphink> hatake_kakashi: seems like the bot is off
[01:09] <iwang> how to make is as ext
[01:09] <raphink> ubotu: hello!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:09] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, raphink
[01:09] <hatake_kakashi> raphink: the bot is still there
[01:09] <Dreamstar> noteventime: it didnt work, as i open amarok it's still says that the alsa device is busy :(
[01:09] <raphink> iwang: you remove it and make a new one ;)
[01:09] <raphink> iwang: but windows won't work on ext
[01:09] <hatake_kakashi> iwang: backup data, repartition, format and then put the data back.. that's how I'm planning to do it
[01:10] <noteventime> aha
[01:10] <iwang> its ok
[01:10] <raphink> an option might be install windows on fat32 instead iwang
[01:10] <iwang> im not using windows anymore
[01:10] <noteventime> Dreamstar: amaroK can use artS
[01:10] <hatake_kakashi> raphink: though there is ext2 fs for windows.. which can also do ext3
[01:10] <raphink> hatake_kakashi: dapper's kernel supports ntfs iirc
[01:10] <raphink> that's another option
[01:10] <iwang> how to remove it from terminal
[01:10] <noteventime> go to settings then engine
[01:10] <hatake_kakashi> raphink: though not in rw mode, only ro mode :)
[01:10] <raphink> hatake_kakashi: yes, you can read/write ext on windows, but not boot on it imo
[01:10] <raphink> ah
[01:10] <iwang> ok
[01:11] <iwang> i try go to setting and engine
[01:11] <hatake_kakashi> raphink: ahh yes of course not, windows is dodgy ;)
[01:11] <Dreamstar> well i dont have the arts for amarok, i'll take them from the repos of the beta?
[01:11] <raphink> iwang: use gparted to remove the partitions
[01:11] <noteventime> Dreamster: configure-> amaroK -> engine -> there you probably can choose artS
[01:11] <raphink> or qtparted
[01:11] <iwang> how to use im
[01:11] <iwang> im nooB
[01:11] <raphink> iwang: do you have gparted installed?
[01:11] <Dreamstar> noteventime: i only have gstreamer for amarok
[01:11] <raphink> or qtparted
[01:11] <hatake_kakashi> search for parted HOWTO iwang
[01:12] <noteventime> Dreamster: A few cm down
[01:12] <Dreamstar> ah found it! ok it's working now
[01:12] <noteventime> nice
[01:12] <noteventime> Have fun :)
[01:12] <Dreamstar> and for the other apps instead i can use artsdsp? (skype, teamspeak2 and so on)?
[01:13] <noteventime> Dreamster: mostly yes
[01:13] <Dreamstar> oki thank u sooooooooooo much :)
[01:13] <noteventime> np
[01:14] <raphink> iwang: right?
[01:15] <iwang> yero
[01:15] <iwang> thanks
[01:15] <iwang> done already
[01:15] <iwang> mwach@
[01:15] <raphink> good :)
[01:16] <raphink> well done
[01:18] <iwang> may i know tools like adobe photoshop
[01:19] <raphink> gimp, krita
[01:19] <iwang> izit?
[01:19] <iwang> hurm
[01:19] <iwang> i got trouble with gimp
[01:19] <iwang> hehe
[01:19] <iwang> ok now
[01:19] <raphink> well gimp is maybe the best equivalent to photoship around
[01:20] <iwang> i got sumthing to do
[01:20] <raphink> although krita is getting very good now
[01:20] <iwang> thanks for ur help
[01:20] <raphink> np
[01:20] <iwang> we meet again later
[01:20] <iwang> tha~
[01:20] <raphink> sure
[01:20] <noteventime> Yay i'm back
[01:20] <raphink> and I'm belly
[01:21] <noteventime> Ok
[01:21] <noteventime> Well, thats good for you :D
[01:21] <raphink> hej noteventime :) hur gar dej ?
[01:21] <raphink> hmmpf
[01:21] <noteventime> jodu, bara bra
[01:21] <tomas_> hall igen :p
[01:21] <raphink> :)
[01:22] <noteventime> Hejsan
[01:22] <raphink> ah, welcome back tomas_
[01:22] <tomas_> fick en /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline nr jag gjorde en make, any ideas?
[01:22] <raphink> tomas_: I had a quick look at ktechlab, seems interesting
[01:22] <raphink> and the libs are already in dapper
[01:22] <tomas_> dont try to steal it for me :p
[01:22] <noteventime> Its cool
[01:22] <tomas_> im compiling ;)
[01:22] <tomas_> :P
[01:23] <raphink> tomas_: I won't steal it
[01:23] <raphink> tomas_: just know that it won't get in Ubuntu before dapper+1 though
[01:23] <noteventime> I've used it, didn't get it to use gsimul, or whatever its called, though
[01:23] <tomas_> noteventime: are you running dapper?
[01:23] <noteventime> Yes
[01:23] <tomas_> it works perfectly here for me :)
[01:23] <raphink> :)
[01:23] <tomas_> except that synaptic removes it everytime cause of dependency issues :P
[01:23] <noteventime> Not when I ran ktechlab though
[01:23] <raphink> tomas_: so are you currently packaging ktechlab?
[01:23] <tomas_> i dont know :p
[01:24] <tomas_> trying to compile it :p
[01:24] <tomas_> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline"
[01:24] <noteventime> readline is a library
[01:24] <tomas_> that i have installed :)
[01:24] <raphink> you need to find where realine lib is
[01:24] <raphink> and have your package depend on it
[01:24] <noteventime> its not in a path probably
[01:24] <raphink> yep
[01:24] <tomas_> just what i thought :/
[01:25] <noteventime> What is the name of the lib path again?
[01:25] <tomas_> i dont know :p
[01:25] <tomas_> readline :p
[01:25] <tomas_> ?
[01:25] <tomas_> i have a libreadline.so.5 in my lib
[01:25] <tomas_> if thats the file *-)
[01:25] <noteventime> I have a python lib called readline
[01:25] <raphink> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=readl
[01:26] <raphink> funny
[01:26] <noteventime> /lib/libreadline.so.5.1
[01:26] <noteventime> /lib/libreadline.so.5
[01:26] <noteventime> /lib/libreadline.so.4.3
[01:26] <noteventime> /lib/libreadline.so.4
[01:26] <raphink> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=readline&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386
[01:26] <noteventime> hehe
[01:26] <raphink> sorry
[01:26] <tomas_> so do i only need to PATH=/lib/libreadline.so.5?
[01:26] <raphink> ah
[01:26] <raphink> in libreadline?
[01:27] <tomas_> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lreadline"
[01:27] <tomas_> i dont want this error
[01:27] <tomas_> :p
[01:27] <noteventime> Isnt there a special path for libraries?
[01:27] <raphink> I'd patch configure
[01:27] <raphink> hehe
[01:27] <tomas_> *-)
[01:27] <noteventime> :-) What a surprice :)
[01:28] <noteventime> tomas_: You better use kcontrol
[01:28] <tomas_> KControl? for what?
[01:28] <noteventime> Editing the path
[01:28] <tomas_> ah
[01:28] <raphink> kcontrol?
[01:28] <tomas_> Systeminstllningarna ;)
[01:28] <tomas_> or something
[01:28] <noteventime> systeminstllningar is buggy
[01:28] <noteventime> i like kcontrol better
[01:29] <tomas_> yup
[01:29] <raphink> so buggy that I don't have it :p
[01:29] <noteventime> just put kcontrol in run
[01:29] <raphink> lol
[01:29] <noteventime> hehe
[01:29] <tomas_> :p
[01:29] <raphink> yeah
[01:29] <raphink> systemsettings was released in ubuntu too fast
[01:29] <raphink> we shouldn't have it imo
[01:29] <raphink> s/fast/early/
[01:29] <noteventime> I didn't know kcontrol was still there till yesterday :)
[01:30] <noteventime> So i have been using systemsettingsXD
[01:30] <tomas_> :p
[01:31] <tomas_> its nice that moodin or whatever its called was included in dapper :)
[01:31] <raphink> yes
[01:31] <raphink> and it's now defauilt
[01:31] <raphink> since 3 days ago
[01:31] <raphink> we have a brand new kdm theme + kslash
[01:31] <raphink> using moodin :)
[01:31] <raphink> that will be in dapper flight 5 :)
[01:31] <noteventime> It is?
[01:32] <raphink> yep :)
[01:32] <noteventime> Cool
[01:32] <raphink> just try it :)
[01:32] <noteventime> I had to compile it myself :)
[01:32] <raphink> no it's in main now
[01:32] <noteventime> It wasn't in the repo, please forgive me
[01:32] <raphink> :;)
[01:32] <raphink> :)
[01:32] <raphink> and installed by default in kubuntu
[01:33] <noteventime> When is dapper released
[01:34] <raphink> 19th of april :)
[01:34] <noteventime> OMG, adept died on me for the first time :O
[01:34] <tomplast> i had a nice time last time i updated dapper :p
[01:34] <raphink> now it's bug fixing, polishing, polishing :)
[01:34] <noteventime> yay, 3 days before my birthsday
[01:34] <tomplast> it was yesterday when i ran both ubuntu and dapper and i just had  updated dapper
[01:34] <tomplast> i couldn't login :p
[01:34] <tomplast> i got a x error :p
[01:34] <tomplast> something about one_level :p
[01:35] <raphink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[01:35] <raphink> kubuntu has been polished quite a lot lately
[01:35] <raphink> thanks to Tonio
[01:35] <noteventime> OMG, adept is dead :P
[01:36] <tomplast> isnt  that normal :p
[01:36] <tomplast> any btw, was adept gonna get a new look?
[01:36] <raphink> it is
[01:36] <tomplast> with some pictures i hope :p
[01:36] <raphink> dapper now has more adept stuff
[01:36] <tomplast> i saw a screenshot for adept 2.0 i think
[01:36] <raphink> adept itself has a new look
[01:37] <raphink> then adept_installer is an easy to use interface
[01:37] <raphink> for most common apps
[01:37] <tomplast> and btw the adept notifier or whatever its called is not so good
[01:37] <raphink> and there's adept_notifier
[01:37] <noteventime> lol, adept wont even start anymore :P
[01:37] <HEY> hui
[01:37] <raphink> working with adept-updater
[01:37] <HEY> hi
[01:37] <raphink> tomplast: why?
[01:37] <noteventime> il make restart X and hope for the best
[01:37] <tomplast> like it seems that it checks once a day for updates
[01:37] <raphink> noteok
[01:37] <tomplast> often i start adept-updater
[01:37] <raphink> tomplast: sure
[01:38] <tomplast> and then the notifier finds something :p
[01:38] <kmon> Hi, doesnanyone here know if installing turbogears as they say on their web will screw my current ubuntu installation?
[01:38] <tomplast> every 15th minute would be good
[01:38] <raphink> tomplast: taht's very normal
[01:38] <tomplast> or setting the checking time yourself
[01:38] <raphink> tomplast: every 15 minute is too much for most people
[01:38] <raphink> tomplast: you can set it yourself ;)
[01:38] <tomplast> yeah but if you could set it yourself :)
[01:38] <raphink> sudo crontab -e
[01:38] <tomplast> ah :p
[01:38] <tomplast> how :p
[01:38] <tomplast> aha :p
[01:38] <raphink> and there you go
[01:39] <raphink> tomplast: the check for updates is independant from adept-notifier
[01:39] <tomplast> oki
[01:39] <raphink> adept-notifier does nothing
[01:39] <zblach> hi. my kd is having some weirdness. i cannot access shells with ctrl+alt+f#. how can this be fixed?
[01:39] <raphink> it just grabs the apt cache
[01:39] <tomplast> :p
[01:39] <tomplast> oki
[01:39] <noteventime> yay
[01:39] <raphink> the upadate is ran as a crontab
[01:40] <raphink> zblach: did you check if you didn't push the F lock key by mistake ?
[01:40] <tomplast> my crontab is empty :p
[01:40] <noteventime> Hmm... Why is there another background between my KDM theme and my splashscreen
[01:40] <tomplast> should it be that :xp:?
[01:40] <zblach> regardless of FLock's status, i cannot switch to a shell
[01:40] <raphink> tomplast: not yours, the root's :p
[01:41] <noteventime> I changed the roots
[01:41] <noteventime> It's still the same
[01:41] <tomplast> i ran it with sudo
[01:41] <raphink> hmm
[01:41] <tomplast> so shouldnt i see anything then ?
[01:41] <zblach> i remember trying to enable other keys on my board, and switching it to utf8 mode? '+<space> = '
[01:41] <raphink> tomplast: must be another crontab then
[01:42] <tomplast> or maybe it never updates :p
[01:42] <raphink> tomplast: :p
[01:42] <raphink> tomplast: you should ask mornfall about that
[01:42] <tomplast> maybe i should try to reinstall adept-notifier or something
[01:42] <noteventime> raphink: My login would be so nice if i could get the background away :)
[01:42] <tomplast> someday :p
[01:42] <raphink> noteventime: that's easy
[01:42] <tomplast> i have some creepy ekorre as bootsplash
[01:42] <tomplast> the guy from ice age
[01:43] <raphink> noteventime: with kdmtheme
[01:43] <noteventime> raphink: I have kdmtheme
[01:43] <noteventime> raphink: And I have changed my theme and my splash screen so they match
[01:43] <raphink> noteventime: oh no sorry it's not in kdmtheme it's in the login manager in kcontrol
[01:43] <noteventime> ok
[01:44] <zblach> raphink, FLock nothing doing
[01:44] <raphink> zblach: weird
[01:44] <raphink> did you try restarting KDE zblach ?
[01:44] <zblach> after toggling the FLock?
[01:44] <zblach> i've had kb strangeness for a few weeks
[01:45] <raphink> ah
[01:46] <noteventime> Lets hope it works now
[01:48] <noteventime> What is the command to the the kernel version again?
[01:48] <hugelmopf> uname -r
[01:49] <noteventime> thanks
[02:00] <tomplast> have anyone tried perlbox?
[02:01] <tomplast> http://perlbox.org/
[02:01] <tomplast> it has speech recognition ;)
[02:02] <noteventime> :D yay raphink it worked, weee consistend look and feel
[02:02] <raphink> :D
[02:03] <noteventime> You would'nt by any chance know where to get the newet kexi as a deb? X)
[02:05] <ciga> hi
[02:05] <ciga> can I read perldoc in a konqueror window?
[02:05] <ciga> like man:// ?
[02:05] <raphink> noteventime: building the debian sid version?
[02:06] <FiNeZ> Hello!
[02:07] <noteventime> raphink: I dunno, just one so i caninstall the koffice meta package
[02:08] <noteventime> ciga: yes
[02:08] <noteventime> 'ello
[02:09] <noteventime> ciga: I think
[02:09] <ciga> noteventime: :)
[02:09] <mada> salut
[02:09] <noteventime> Geetings
[02:09] <ciga> noteventime: I can find a way: man:/usr/share/man/man3/open.3perl.gz , but what about pods and other stuffs?
[02:10] <noteventime> ciga: I'm sorry I dont even know what a pod is XD, but i know you can read UNIX man pages with man://
[02:11] <_samoura_> noteventime what is agein the irc.simnet.is ip ?
[02:12] <noteventime> samoura: ping irc.simnet.is
[02:12] <noteventime> and you will see the ip
[02:12] <_samoura_> what pin where write?
[02:12] <noteventime> ping in the console
[02:12] <noteventime> Does someone know a book about design patterns in C++ XD
[02:29] <noteventime> Could someone give me a nice subversion frontend for KDE?
[02:31] <noteventime> katapult is the best thing that ever happened to an OS X)
[02:40] <_samoura_> noteventime what do i do when i enter ls and than  psotnic-current-1.tar.gz but there is no output  :S
[02:44] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ls
[02:44] <_samoura_> commands   psotnic-0.2.7         psotnic-current-1.tar.gz
[02:44] <_samoura_> commands~  psotnic-0.2.7.tar.gz  psotnic-current.tar.gz
[02:44] <_samoura_> conf.hub   psotnic-current       trash.desktop
[02:46] <noteventime> ls outputs whats in the current directory
[02:47] <noteventime> psotnic-current-1.tar.gz is a gzipped tar kinda like a zip or rar
[02:55] <_samoura_> noteventime how do i move that psotnic to home folder  by konsole how
[02:55] <_samoura_> please tell me :P
[02:56] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$  move to home folder ?
[02:57] <_samoura_> i am learning this i have just installd i fail by my salfe :P
[02:58] <_samoura_> :D i am the best ever was
[03:11] <_samoura_> #ubuntu
[03:12] <SirKillalot> do you know a volume manager with OSD?
[03:17] <noteventime> samoura: mv FILE_TO_MOVE WHERE_TO_MOVE
[03:19] <_samoura_>  mv psotnic ~/home/ ?
[03:19] <noteventime> ~ means home
[03:19] <noteventime> mv psotnic ~/
[03:20] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$ mv psotnic ~/
[03:20] <_samoura_> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current/bin$
[03:20] <noteventime> :)
[03:20] <_samoura_> fine?
[03:21] <noteventime> yes
[03:21] <_samoura_> okei how do i copy?
[03:21] <Ilokaasu> cp what where
[03:21] <noteventime> if you want output you need to ad -v like mv -v psotnic ~/
[03:21] <noteventime> mv - move    cp - copy     rm - remove
[03:22] <_samoura_> #samoura  noteventime i thnik you can help me with the rest :P
[03:30] <Acidic32> !kde3.5
[03:30] <ubotu> (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[03:47] <ryanakca> !named
[03:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ryanakca
[03:47] <ryanakca> !bind
[03:47] <ubotu> ryanakca: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:48] <ryanakca> anybody know if BIND/named creates the domain? like say I wanted a domain say... ryanakca.org, would it create it, or would it just say that ryanakca.org is at 24.226.20.171?
[04:02] <fjellrev1> Anyone here have any experience with nvidia and tv out??i found something called nvtv,but the program seems to disappear
[04:17] <Pingjockey> good morning folks, quick question on usb audio
[04:18] <Pingjockey> Trying to get the EQ to work using xmms with no luck.. is that normal??
[04:29] <tid-wave> hello! in ichat style, kopete displays white background for text
[04:29] <tid-wave> it looks very annoying
[04:29] <tid-wave> (breezy)
[04:32] <jpatrick> hola pablud
[04:32] <raphink> hola chiquito
[04:33] <pablud> hola
[04:37] <samoura> #samoura
[04:38] <kubby510> hello everyone
[04:39] <ryanakca> anybody know where I can find the kubuntu logo on a transparent background???
[04:40] <jpatrick> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork
[04:41] <ryanakca> ty
[05:03] <Snake__> !dapper
[05:21] <tomas_> hi everyone
[05:21] <tomas_> are there any kubuntu-devs here?
[05:22] <jpatrick> me
[05:22] <tomas_> :)
[05:22] <tomas_> good
[05:22] <tomas_> one annoying bug in kde is when i try to make a file runable
[05:23] <jpatrick> known
[05:23] <tomas_> it works but i get a messagebox with the path to the file
[05:23] <tomas_> aha
[05:23] <tomas_> :)
[05:24] <tomas_> can you also tell me if its possible to access a sony handycam through usb?
[05:24] <jpatrick> should be
[05:25] <tomas_> Much people says no but nothing is possible imo
[05:25] <xwolf-> is there a way to list recently installed packages?
[05:25] <richard2> Some know how to access a share folders?
[05:25] <jpatrick> xwolf-: /var/log/dpkg.log
[05:26] <tomas_> jpatrick: can you tell me why amarok hangs when trying to play a stream?
[05:26] <jpatrick> tomas_: tried using a different engine
[05:26] <jpatrick> ?
[05:27] <xwolf-> what about uninstalling some of them?
[05:27] <tomas_> jpatrick: xine worked before :/
[05:27] <tomas_> hmm
[05:28] <tomas_> jpatrick: the playlist is finished as soon as i start a song :/
[05:28] <jpatrick> some problem with your sound server then
[05:28] <tomas_> some other sound works
[05:28] <tomas_> and amarok seems to believe that each song is 0 sec long :/
[05:29] <tomas_> i'll try with reinstalling amarok and xine
[05:29] <jpatrick> anything on the status bar?
[05:29] <tomas_> there is a big bubble that says the song title
[05:30] <tomas_> but just a half second comes the next "playlist finished"
[05:30] <tomas_> after
[05:31] <DevGet> tomas_: have you set the correct enegine?
[05:31] <tomas_> i have xine now
[05:31] <tomas_> i have done this before
[05:31] <tomas_> worked in breezy
[05:31] <tomas_> and in dapper
[05:31] <tomas_> before
[05:31] <tomas_> i will try gstreamer as well
[05:32] <jpatrick> gstreamer got pulled out in dapper
[05:32] <tomas_> aha
[05:32] <tomas_> maybe i can change automatic to alsa
[05:32] <tomas_> or oss
[05:32] <tomas_> *-)
[05:32] <tomas_> i dont think it will help but trying isnt wrong
[05:33] <ryanakca> how do you make firefox your default web browser in kde?
[05:33] <ryanakca> (instead of konqueror)
[05:33] <irvken> what does mepis have/do that kubuntu does not?
[05:33] <jpatrick> ryanakca: kcontrol
[05:34] <tomas_> irvken: an ugly control panel :p
[05:34] <irvken> why might anyone use mepis over kubuntu
[05:34] <pagux> hello kubututites
[05:34] <pagux> :-)
[05:34] <tomas_> hi pagux
[05:34] <jpatrick> hello pagux
[05:34] <aeon17x> That has too many t's
[05:34] <ccc_> irvken: nothing imo
[05:34] <pagux> hi guys
[05:34] <tomas_> is advertising recommendened here :p
[05:34] <irvken> but thousnads of them do
[05:34] <tomas_> or some tipping :p
[05:35] <tomas_> cause i know a poker site which have nice freerolls :)
[05:35] <irvken> I run mepis
[05:35] <tomas_> that works in linux ;)
[05:35] <JakubS> irvken: it is usable immediately after installation
[05:35] <pagux> anybody ever ran java webstart on kubuntu ?
[05:35] <aeon17x> tomas_: better do it on the offtopic channel, I guess.
[05:35] <jpatrick> tomas_: xine works here
[05:35] <JakubS> for kubuntu you have to install lots of stuff first
[05:35] <tomas_> jpatrick: :/
[05:35] <irvken> ah
[05:35] <tomas_> pagux: i have, just a couple of mins ago
[05:35] <jpatrick> (breezy)
[05:36] <irvken> examples JakubS
[05:36] <tomucho> hello
[05:36] <irvken> do you mean openoffice or do you mean apache
[05:36] <pagux> thomas :javaweb start  with jdk 1.5 ?
[05:36] <McScruff> is there a firewall running by default on kubuntu?
[05:36] <JakubS> irvken: working java/flash/mplayers/codecs
[05:36] <tomucho> anyone knows what is the login/pass for the latest kubuntu live cd please ?
[05:36] <jpatrick> no
[05:36] <pagux> no
[05:36] <jpatrick> tomucho: there is none
[05:36] <tomas_> pagus: i dont know. i have installed j2re1.4 and mozilla-plugin
[05:37] <tomucho> jpatrick, It ask me to put a login and pass :(
[05:37] <tomas_> pagux: and that works fine for me ;)
[05:37] <irvken> JakubS, I've never managed to get them working first time with mepis
[05:37] <pagux> have u tried "javaws" in console ?
[05:37] <ryanakca> jpatrick: what command? "firefox %s" "firefox" "firefox %u" "firefox %U" etc, etc
[05:37] <irvken> I've never used kubuntu
[05:37] <jpatrick> tomucho: try 'ubuntu' with no pass
[05:37] <irvken> but looks like I ight have to
[05:37] <JakubS> weird, i had them working immediately after installation
[05:37] <tomas_> pagux: works like a charm
[05:37] <tomucho> jpatrick, it said login failed
[05:38] <jpatrick> ryanakca: check the command for your kmenu
[05:38] <irvken> http://www.mepis.org/node/9096
[05:38] <tomas_> pagux: doesnt it work for you?
[05:38] <pagux> not for me :-(
[05:38] <tomas_> pagux: but try to install j2re1.4
[05:38] <tomas_> pagux: and the mozilla-plugin for it :)
[05:38] <ryanakca> jpatrick: wouldnt that give me "firefox %whatever letter it is for my homepage"?
[05:38] <tomas_> pagux: that works for me anyway :)
[05:39] <pagux> Java Web Start splash screen process exiting .....
[05:39] <pagux> Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory
[05:39] <ryanakca> hmmm
[05:39] <djk_> how do i change a pdf?
[05:40] <jpatrick> djk_: impossible
[05:40] <jpatrick> afaik
[05:40] <JakubS> djk_: import it in kword then edit
[05:40] <jpatrick> ^^
[05:40] <tomas_> pagux: have you tried google?
[05:41] <tomas_> pagux: this page could maybe help you: http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?forumID=38&threadID=196066
[05:41] <ryanakca> hmmm... with "firefox %U" it opens two tabs of GMAIL when I left click the gmail notifier instead of one
[05:41] <Dany> people who can speak russian :)
[05:41] <tomas_> pagux: they talk about a similiar problem anyway
[05:41] <DevGet> !de
[05:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:41] <Dany> help me
[05:41] <DevGet> !se
[05:41] <ubotu> DevGet: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:41] <Dany> please
[05:41] <tomas_> what is it dany?
[05:41] <DevGet> !sv
[05:41] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DevGet
[05:42] <tomas_> Dany? Whats your problem?
 i cann't install wifi adapter ^(
[05:42] <Dany> on kubunyu
[05:42] <tomas_> Dany: i dont know anything about wifi but i can try to help you anyway :p
[05:42] <tomas_> Dany: what doesnt work exactly?
[05:43] <Dany> asus wl161
[05:43] <Dany> i download driver
[05:43] <ryanakca> Dany: you want russian?
[05:43] <Dany> yes
[05:43] <ryanakca> !ru
[05:43] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:43] <jpatrick> tomas_: woah, xine is way better than gstreamer
[05:43] <tomas_> Dany: Have you tried KWifiManager?
[05:43] <jpatrick> KWifiManager sucks :P
[05:43] <tomas_> japtric: it seems that some program or something have stoolen my sound system or something :p
[05:44] <tomas_> japtrick :/
[05:44] <tomas_> jpatrick
[05:44] <tomas_> stupid keyboard :p
[05:44] <jpatrick> jp + tab
[05:44] <tomas_> i wonder whats a japtrick is *-)
 drivers are not installed ^(
[05:45] <tomas_> Dany: isnt your wireless card detected ?
[05:45] <jpatrick> tomas_: https://launchpad.net/people/jpatrick :P
[05:45] <tomas_> oki?
[05:45] <Dany> how i can se it &
[05:46] <tomas_> InformationCentral
[05:46] <tomas_> or something
[05:46] <tomas_> i ithink its called
[05:46] <tomas_> its in the system menu
[05:46] <jpatrick> KInfoCenter
[05:46] <Dany> KWifiManager cannt find wriles lan
[05:47] <tomas_> *-)
[05:48] <Dany> :(
[05:48] <tomas_> Sorry Dany maybe jpatrick knows better
[05:48] <Dany> :(  sorry for ma english ^(
[05:48] <jpatrick> kwifimanager is meant for wireless connections
[05:49] <chx> is it possible to print a PDF magnified?
[05:50] <DevGet> can't xine play mp3's?
[05:51] <jpatrick> :?
[05:51] <Dany> no
[05:51] <tomas_away> ?
[05:51] <tomas_away> are you funny?
[05:51] <tomas_away> download w32codecs and it will be fine
[05:52] <jpatrick> there is no w32codecs
[05:52] <tomas_away> =?
[05:52] <tomas_away> what do you mean by that?
[05:52] <tomas_away> extra repository its called AFAIK
[05:52] <DevGet> the homepages says that xine says it support mp3
[05:53] <tomucho> anyone knows what is the login/pass for the latest kubuntu live cd please ?
[05:53] <DevGet> but I can't play mp3 in amarok
[05:53] <jpatrick> DevGet: what site?
[05:53] <DevGet> http://xinehq.de/index.php/features
[05:54] <DevGet> Ahh, may I ned extracodecs
[05:55] <tomas_away> i told you -)
[05:55] <DevGet> yes, thx :)
[05:56] <tomas_away> isnt it deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
[05:56] <tomas_away> im not totaly sure but i think that repository contains w32codecs
[05:56] <jpatrick> marillat is not recommended
[05:56] <tomas_away> why?
[05:56] <tomas_away> i have heard from some that you can install w32codecs but you should deactivate marillat after
[05:56] <jpatrick> breaks stuff
[05:56] <DevGet> istall libxine-extracodecs was enough
[05:57] <tomas_away> i did anyway
[05:57] <tomas_away> no
[05:57] <tomas_away> now its time for some card play
[05:57] <tomas_away> see ya all
[05:57] <tomas_away> bye
[06:02] <pagux> how much memory kubuntu needs to run respectfully ?
[06:03] <margouyab> 256 Mo I think
[06:03] <margouyab> and 512 Mo for better performance
[06:03] <jpatrick> yep ^^
[06:07] <kakei> hi,does any body have make a podcast in audacity?
[06:10] <ryanakca> how do you figure out how many gigabytes you have left on your hd?
[06:10] <callie> Hi, i've got this old computer i found and im trying to get it going, I'm getting a CMOS checksum error and cant seem to get into the BIOS any ideas guys?
[06:10] <spiritz> ryanakca:  df -h
[06:10] <callie> ryanakca, df -h
[06:10] <callie> yeah, what he said
[06:11] <ryanakca> phew... still 18gb...
[06:11] <callie> Whew!
[06:13] <callie> robotgeek, you know anything about CMOS checksum errors?
[06:13] <robotgeek> callie: nope, might be a battery issue or something
[06:14] <callie> yeah, already tried swapping it out, but no joy there either
[06:16] <robotgeek> callie: no clue, don't use PC's
[06:16] <tristanmike> callie: did you try pulling the jumpers?
[06:17] <callie> you mean flashing the bios tristanmike ? yeah i did
[06:18] <tristanmike> callie: without just pulling the cmos right?
[06:18] <callie> tristanmike, i'm not sure what you mean? pulling?
[06:18] <tristanmike> callie: removing the cmos battery is one way, there is also a more "hardcoded" way to do it, and that's via the jumpers
[06:19] <callie> yeah, i thought i already said i did that
[06:19] <tristanmike> callie: just making sure I didn't misunderstand you
[06:19] <callie> cool
[06:20] <callie> i had to flash the bios initialy becuase the bios had a p/w on it
[06:20] <callie> now i cant even get to the bios
[06:20] <callie> im assuming becuase of this error
[06:22] <callie> are there any floppy utils i could try?
[06:22] <tristanmike> callie: did you backup the old bios?
[06:23] <callie> nope
[06:23] <tristanmike> wha!?
[06:23] <tristanmike> callie: tisk, tisk
[06:23] <callie> it was password protected tristanmike
[06:24] <tristanmike> callie: ok, did you get the same error on the old bios? the cmos checksum error?
[06:24] <callie> no i dont think so
[06:25] <tristanmike> callie: I assumed you used you're board's manufactuer's tool's for flashing the bios? the file and the actual tool used?
[06:25] <tristanmike> what's the mobo?
[06:26] <callie> tristanmike, a gigabyte something, hang on i'll check
[06:29] <callie> tristanmike, Gigabyte GA-6WMMC7
[06:29] <pagux> how i remove something fociblly or reinstall ?
[06:30] <pagux> it seems achache it not working on kubuntu
[06:30] <pagux> i can remove via apt as dependency issues
[06:34] <penguinboy> hey hey hey
[06:34] <_tristanmike> callie: sorry, I lost my internet
[06:35] <callie> _tristanmike, thats cool
[06:35] <callie> did you get my answer tristanmike ?
[06:35] <callie> _tristanmike, Gigabyte GA-6WMMC7
[06:35] <_tristanmike> cool
[06:36] <_tristanmike> did you use the manufacture's tool for upgrading as well as their bios file?
[06:36] <callie> i dont know how to do that _tristanmike, and remember this a computer i found dumped
[06:36] <_tristanmike> haha
[06:37] <callie> i just thought it might be fun to try and get it going, the power supply was knackered and i was hoping that was its only fault
[06:38] <_tristanmike> callie: where are you? USA?
[06:39] <callie> UK
[06:40] <callie> why do you as tristanmike ?
[06:40] <tristanmike> just so I get to the right Gigabyte homepage for the bios files etc.
[06:41] <tristanmike> so I can stalk you....
[06:42] <callie> lol
[06:43] <callie> i've found some bios files already, i guess i just put them on a floppy and boot?
[06:43] <tristanmike> callie: you _must_ use the offical files and tool to do it, using anything else may result in errors
[06:44] <tristanmike> and when I say "_must_" i _must_ really emphasise that
[06:44] <callie> these are from gigabyte
[06:44] <tristanmike> cool
[06:44] <tristanmike> lemme see, are you from the usa?
[06:44] <tristanmike> or NA for that matter
[06:44] <callie> UK
[06:45] <tristanmike> see, things are different over there than here, I'm in Canada
[06:45] <jpatrick> < UK
[06:45] <callie> :D
[06:47] <callie> i'll brb
[06:47] <tristanmike> callie: you went here to get the files?  http://uk.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-6WMMC7.htm?
[06:48] <pagux> how do i install autpackage ?
[06:48] <pagux> its not in any repo
[06:49] <tristanmike> !autopackage
[06:49] <ubotu> well, autopackage is evil
[06:49] <tristanmike> good ubotu
[06:49] <tristanmike> !botsnack
[06:49] <ubotu> :)
[06:51] <callie> hey tristanmike sorry bout that
[06:51] <tristanmike> callie: no probs at all :)
[06:51] <tristanmike> http://uk.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-6WMMC7.htm  ?
[06:51] <tristanmike> callie: did you go there to get the bios?
[06:51] <callie> yeah
[06:52] <tristanmike> callie: and you used Qflash?
[06:52] <callie> i got the F8 bios
[06:52] <callie> qflash? explain
[06:53] <callie> sorry this is kinda new territory for me
[06:53] <tristanmike> no need to be sorry my friend
[06:53] <tristanmike> http://uk.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Support/BIOS/HowToReflash/HowToReflash_1.htm
[06:54] <tristanmike> callie: did you follow these instructions?
[06:55] <tristanmike> one sec
[06:56] <callie> i havent got that far all i've got is a file, and .exe and thats it
[06:59] <callie> s/and/an
[07:02] <tristanmike> callie: can we step back for one sec, how did you flash the bios?
[07:02] <callie> using the jumpers tristanmike
[07:03] <kubby510> lol NA
[07:03] <kubby510> sorry i was just scrolling up
[07:03] <kubby510> :p
[07:03] <kubby510> im in the NA
[07:03] <kubby510> sorta
[07:04] <kubby510> i dont practice...
[07:04] <kubby510> :(
[07:04] <tristanmike> callie: ahhh, I see
[07:05] <tristanmike> callie: so you had a mobo with a password on the bios, had no "errors" or "problems" per se, so you used the jumpers to try and clear the bios and now you get a cmos checksum error? am i right?
[07:05] <callie> exactly tristanmike
[07:07] <tristanmike> ahhh
[07:07] <tristanmike> what jumpers did you use? how did you go about it?
[07:09] <callie> Found the little table on the board which tells you the jumper setting and JP number, in this case 13, with the machine off i then moved the jumper over into the flash position, left it for 30 seconds and the replaced it to the original postion before powering back up
[07:10] <callie> Damn! my g/f is here, i shall have to continue this some other time
[07:10] <callie> thanks though tristanmike i'm sure i'll be back soon to pick your brains if thats ok?
[07:10] <tristanmike> ok, quick question
[07:10] <callie> yeah?
[07:10] <tristanmike> did you use a brand new fresh battery when you swapped
[07:11] <callie> its not that new, but then not that old either
[07:11] <callie> less that a year old
[07:11] <tristanmike> follow these instructions http://uk.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Support/BIOS/HowToReflash/HowToReflash_1.htm  and do it from "dos" and you should be ok
[07:11] <tristanmike> when you did the jumpers, everything was unplugged and you held the power button for 10 sec's right?
[07:12] <callie> the power was still connected i think
[07:12] <callie> i thought it was supposed to be
[07:12] <callie> ah
[07:12] <callie> damn
[07:12] <pollomax> #kubuntu/es
[07:14] <pollomax> join chanel kubuntu-es
[07:15] <jpatrick> pollomax: /join #kubuntu-es
[07:15] <tristanmike> callie: NEVER play with jumpers with the power plugged in, and with out releasing the "flea power" by holding the pwr button for 10 sec after unplugging it
[07:16] <tristanmike> callie: good luck
[07:17] <pollomax> how download automatix
[07:17] <tristanmike> !automatix
[07:17] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[07:19] <noteventime> !easyubuntu
[07:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[07:20] <noteventime> pollomax: Your better of with easyubuntu
[07:21] <noteventime> Ennu mer svenskar? :)
[07:23] <noteventime> Does someone know a good database manager that works with mysql
[07:30] <tanubis> Anyone know how to get samba working properly?
[07:37] <johnntirado> hello all
[07:37] <noteventime> 'ello
[07:37] <johnntirado> I have been trying to learn linux
[07:38] <johnntirado> and one thing is confusing
[07:38] <noteventime> ok, thats god :)
[07:38] <noteventime> good*
[07:38] <noteventime> Whats confusing you?
[07:38] <johnntirado> how do I intall software that I want to add like crossoffice
[07:38] <johnntirado> well in windows you just click
[07:38] <johnntirado> and the installer does it all
[07:38] <noteventime> Thats one of the hardest things for a linux beginner to learn.
[07:39] <johnntirado> well leave it to me to ask
[07:39] <noteventime> There are multiple ways
[07:39] <johnntirado> ok
[07:39] <_nano> hi
[07:39] <johnntirado> all the web sites don't really answer my question
[07:39] <noteventime> one, the "standard" one in debian based distros is apt-get
[07:39] <noteventime> You probably know about that one
[07:39] <johnntirado> lol no
[07:40] <johnntirado> too green for that
[07:40] <noteventime> You have used adept?
[07:40] <johnntirado> nope
[07:40] <johnntirado> heck Im just trying out this live kubuntu cd
[07:40] <noteventime> How have you installed things till now?
[07:40] <noteventime> ahhh... :) ok
[07:40] <johnntirado> well in the live cd for kubuntu the cd installes it
[07:41] <noteventime> ok
[07:41] <johnntirado> btw thanks for the time
[07:41] <noteventime> Well, crossover office
[07:41] <noteventime> has a install file just like in windows
[07:41] <noteventime> just you need to start it from the command line
[07:41] <johnntirado> it has a file that ends in sh I think
[07:41] <noteventime> yes
[07:41] <noteventime> its a script
[07:41] <johnntirado> oh ok
[07:42] <johnntirado> so the command like is like dos
[07:42] <noteventime> yes
[07:42] <johnntirado> is the command $ install-yadayada yad-sh
[07:43] <noteventime> but you have to write ./ to mark that the file is in the current directory
[07:43] <johnntirado> hmmmm  ok
[07:43] <noteventime> so open a console
[07:43] <johnntirado> good start
[07:43] <johnntirado> how do I do thaty
[07:43] <noteventime> :) i'll help you install it
[07:43] <johnntirado> well not ready for that lol
[07:44] <johnntirado> just getting ahead of myself
[07:44] <noteventime> In the kmenu->system->konsole
[07:44] <noteventime> ok
[07:44] <johnntirado> thanks for the start
[07:44] <noteventime> :)
[07:44] <johnntirado> now kubuntu wont load in my litttle older computer
[07:44] <noteventime> Do you know what root is?
[07:44] <johnntirado> root is like the head operator
[07:45] <johnntirado> admin
[07:45] <noteventime> yes
[07:45] <johnntirado> or c:\
[07:45] <noteventime> both :)
[07:45] <johnntirado> yeppers
[07:45] <noteventime> I'm reffering to the administrator
[07:45] <johnntirado> now in kubuntu there is a run command thing
[07:45] <noteventime> yes
[07:45] <noteventime> But its often better to use the console
[07:45] <johnntirado> so I can type the install command there right
[07:45] <johnntirado> oh ok
[07:46] <noteventime> in the console you can see more output if there would be an error
[07:46] <johnntirado> so how do I load the konsole again
[07:46] <noteventime> in the console you just have to run the sh file
[07:46] <johnntirado> ok
[07:46] <noteventime> just specify the path
[07:47] <noteventime> like /home/me/install-crossoveroffice.sh
[07:47] <noteventime> Do you know what debian is?
[07:47] <johnntirado> ok
[07:47] <johnntirado> no sorry I have heard of it
[07:47] <johnntirado> lol man I need to get a book huh
[07:47] <noteventime> Ubuntu is based in debian, its another linux ditro
[07:48] <noteventime> jhonntirado: not really, you learn if you use :)
[07:48] <johnntirado> lol well Im willing
[07:48] <tristanmike> johnntirado: no book is needed, just time, just like windows when you first started
[07:48] <johnntirado> gotcha
[07:49] <johnntirado> heck I remember spending nights with windows and dos
[07:49] <noteventime> hehe
[07:49] <johnntirado> my first computer had a 20meg hd
[07:49] <tristanmike> then you should slide in easily
[07:49] <noteventime> the first thing you should learn is how to use apt-get and adept
[07:49] <johnntirado> ok
[07:49] <johnntirado> where do I type that command
[07:49] <noteventime> Its the package system used in debian based linux distros
[07:50] <noteventime> in the console
[07:50] <johnntirado> ok lemme look around for console
[07:50] <noteventime> sure
[07:50] <noteventime> most things are kinda like dos
[07:50] <noteventime> cd to change directory
[07:50] <gleesond> what is the best way to change my login screen theme?
[07:50] <johnntirado> ok console is upp
[07:50] <noteventime> gleesond: KDM?
[07:51] <noteventime> good, cd - change directory
[07:51] <noteventime> ls (ell ess) list all files in the current directory (like dir in dos)
[07:51] <gleesond> I'm not sure, I installed ubuntu before I switched over to kubuntu so it might be GDM
[07:51] <gleesond> is there a way to find out
[07:52] <tristanmike> gleesond: what's the login you have now? Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[07:52] <noteventime> try to stop kdm and you will see
[07:52] <gleesond> kubuntu
[07:52] <johnntirado> how do I list my directorys in konsole
[07:52] <noteventime> ls
[07:52] <johnntirado> like /dir
[07:52] <johnntirado> in dos
[07:52] <noteventime> ls (ell ess) list all files in the current directory (like dir in dos)
[07:52] <tristanmike> gleesond: meaning, when you log in, the logon screen says Kubuntu?
[07:53] <gleesond> yeah
[07:53] <tristanmike> gleesond: then you
[07:53] <tristanmike> *'re running kdm
[07:53] <noteventime> then you need to install kdm theme manager
[07:53] <gleesond> ok is there a pkg name
[07:53] <johnntirado> ok
[07:53] <gleesond> or is it just kdm theme manager
[07:53] <noteventime> cp file dest - copies a file
[07:54] <noteventime> mv file dest - moves a file
[07:54] <noteventime> rm file - removes a file
[07:54] <johnntirado> good lesson
[07:54] <noteventime> :)
[07:54] <johnntirado> like unix commands
[07:54] <tristanmike> gleesond: I'm not sure
[07:54] <gleesond> ok thannks
[07:54] <noteventime> johnntirado: exavtly
[07:55] <johnntirado> noteventime thanks for the lesson
[07:55] <noteventime> np :)
[07:55] <johnntirado> I will be back in a bit
[07:55] <noteventime> sure
[07:58] <blackflag> hello all
[07:58] <blackflag> I want to fax with openoffice
[07:59] <blackflag> in the document are jpeg's
[07:59] <blackflag>  when I try to save as txt then the jpegs are gone
[07:59] <noteventime> Do faxes still exist :P
[07:59] <blackflag> how can I fax such documents
[08:00] <blackflag> I have a lan with hylafax
[08:00] <blackflag>  and when I try to sent with kdesendfax it cant send the odt file
[08:00] <noteventime> Maybe convert the file?
[08:01] <blackflag> How can I fax scanned documents?
[08:01] <noteventime> Use ocr in kooka
[08:01] <blackflag> convert? what for a format?
[08:01] <noteventime> to convert the
[08:01] <noteventime> image to text
[08:01] <noteventime> I dont know which formats ksendfax supports
[08:02] <noteventime> ok
[08:02] <noteventime> ksendfax only supports text files
[08:02] <blackflag> then the best way is OCR ?
[08:02] <noteventime> I would say so
[08:03] <noteventime> Do you know hoe to use ocs in kooka?
[08:03] <blackflag> no, its the first time then to use OCR
[08:03] <blackflag> you have some tips?
[08:04] <noteventime> Acyualy no, i've only used it once :)
[08:04] <blackflag> okay thanks for help I will try it!
[08:05] <noteventime> :) sorry for not being able to provide more comprahensive help
[08:05] <noteventime> comprehensive*
[08:07] <noteventime> hejsan
[08:23] <hibatsu> hi
[08:24] <hibatsu> can anyone help me with dapper?
[08:24] <jpatrick> maybe
[08:25] <hibatsu> I don't have any sound in amarok when trying to play an mp3
[08:25] <hibatsu> neither with xine nor the arts plugin
[08:25] <hibatsu> and I installed the w32codecs
[08:25] <mluser-home> Hello.. where can I get information on the format for the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[08:26] <jpatrick> mluser-home: man:/interfaces
[08:26] <mluser-home> jpatrick: thanks :)
[08:26] <tristanmike> hibatsu: you need to install gstreamer0.8-mad to enable mp3 playback
[08:26] <tristanmike> !mp3
[08:26] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.13 Stopped
[08:26] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:27] <noteventime> you need gstreamer-mad
[08:27] <noteventime> Ops, tristanmike is right gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:28] <hibatsu> ok, thanks
[08:29] <honesty> Can someone give me the dapper testing channel because I am having problems installing it - something like ALERT! /dev/ram does not exist
[08:32] <noteventime> there is a dapper testing channel?
[08:32] <Tm_T> #ubuntu-dapper maybe?
[08:32] <Tm_T> !dapper
[08:33] <noteventime> I'm trying a few comoinations
[08:33] <Tm_T> #ubuntu+1
[08:33] <noteventime> #ubuntu+1
[08:33] <Tm_T> w
[08:33] <noteventime> ahh
[08:35] <honesty> thx
[08:37] <Tm_T> everything is been fine here?
[08:37] <tomas_> hi everyone
[08:37] <noteventime> 'ello
[08:37] <Tm_T> moin
[08:37] <noteventime> hejsan igen :D
[08:37] <tomas_> hehe :P
[08:38] <tomas_> innan jag borjar tigga hjalp :P
[08:38] <tomas_> so ska jag stalla en annan typ av fraga :P
[08:38] <tomas_> var i sverige finns du noteventime :)?
[08:38] <hibatsu> I've already installed gstramer0.8-mad but I can't select it in the engines in amarok
[08:39] <tomas_> saj inte stockholm bara :p
[08:39] <noteventime> Nre rebro
[08:39] <tomas_> jaja :p
[08:39] <tomas_> det ar val okej da ;)
[08:39] <Tm_T> hibatsu: also install amarok-gstreamer
[08:39] <tomas_> sjalv so bor man nere i halland :)
[08:39] <tomas_> langt ifran stockholm :D
[08:39] <noteventime> Nra rebro, I en liten smstad :P
[08:39] <hibatsu> there is no such package
[08:39] <hibatsu> in dapper
[08:40] <Tm_T> tomas_: stop, use english tack, jag tycker inte om sverige hr
[08:40] <tomas_> noteventime: kanner du till nagon bugg som gor att det inte hjalper att stalla in svenskt tangenbord? jag har fortfarande inga svenska tecken :/
[08:40] <noteventime> Kr du XGL?
[08:40] <noteventime> Sorry
[08:40] <noteventime> You'r not using XGL are you?
[08:40] <Tm_T> that sounds much better ;)
[08:41] <noteventime> !se
[08:41] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[08:41] <tomas_> so, liebst to die deutsche sprache TM_T :p ?
[08:41] <tomas_> du
[08:41] <tomas_> just kidding :p
[08:41] <noteventime> Haha, kans du auch deutch?
[08:41] <hibatsu> sicher
[08:41] <tomas_> nur wenig deutsch :p
[08:41] <tomas_> thats my favourite line :p
[08:41] <noteventime> haha
[08:41] <noteventime> !de
[08:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:41] <tomas_> du bisst ein elch ist auch gut
[08:41] <tomas_> yeahyeah :p
[08:42] <tomas_> i guess english will have to do :)
[08:42] <hibatsu> sure
[08:42] <tomas_> anyway
[08:42] <tomas_> a WE-HATE-SWEDISH-KEYBOARD-BUG
[08:42] <tomas_> do you know anything about that?
[08:42] <noteventime> Wieso ist da en Deutcher kanal und kein shwedisher?
[08:42] <Tm_T> tomas_: ...
[08:42] <tomas_> es ist diskrimerung or something :p
[08:42] <noteventime> Hmmm nice work of spelling that was :P
[08:43] <tomas_> i know :p
[08:43] <tomas_> but
[08:43] <Tm_T> guys, please ;(
[08:43] <tomas_> to my real questions
[08:43] <tomas_> are all windows controlled by x?
[08:43] <Tm_T> tomas_: what you mean by that?
[08:43] <noteventime> By kwin if your using kde
[08:43] <_b> what bug ? 
[08:43] <tomas_> i would like to have a command that closes an active windows
[08:43] <Tm_T> 
[08:43] <noteventime> 
[08:43] <tomas_> so i can use it in perlbox voice :P
[08:43] <tomas_> like COMPUTER: Close window :P
[08:44] <Tm_T> tomas_: hmm, maybe kwin have dcop call
[08:44] <Tm_T> tomas_: if you use KDE
[08:44] <noteventime> kwin has a dcop im pretty sure
[08:44] <tomas_> Tm_T: i dont think that I found such
[08:45] <tomas_> but hasnt X control over all windows?
[08:45] <tomas_> like some window buffer or something :p
[08:45] <noteventime> Should have anyway
[08:45] <tomas_> have anyone of you tried perlbox voice?
[08:47] <Tm_T> noteventime: yup, but looks like dcop of kwin is very limited
[08:47] <noteventime> Nope
[08:47] <noteventime> Ok
[08:47] <tomas_> its so nice :p
[08:47] <noteventime> What is it?
[08:47] <tomas_> http://perlbox.org/pbtk/
[08:47] <tomas_> its a speech recognition think
[08:47] <noteventime> hehe
[08:47] <tomas_> you can program words
[08:48] <noteventime> sounds cool
[08:48] <tomas_> like Shutdown  :p
[08:48] <tomas_> or Give me da music :P
[08:48] <_b> voice is usless imo
[08:48] <tomas_> voice is funny :p
[08:48] <tomas_> and its healthy :P
[08:48] <tomas_> for your arms :p
[08:48] <_b> your throut gets sore long before fingers ! :P
[08:48] <tomas_> no :p
[08:48] <tomas_> im talking so much anyway ;)
[08:48] <noteventime> You have that kind of functionality in opera
[08:49] <noteventime> X) Dont you hate it when you get segmention faults
[08:50] <noteventime> tomas_: Have you tried xgl?
[08:50] <tomas_> noteventime: no, what is it really? something about opengl?
[08:50] <noteventime> OpenGl accelerated X
[08:51] <tomas_> benefits?
[08:51] <tomas_> faster X?
[08:51] <tomas_> hotter GPU :p ?
[08:51] <tomas_> less  for gaming?
[08:51] <noteventime> faster X less CPU used
[08:51] <tomas_> :p
[08:51] <tomas_> :p
[08:51] <noteventime> and COOOOOL effects :D
[08:51] <tomas_> how :p
[08:51] <tomas_> tell me :p
[08:51] <tomas_> how :p
[08:51] <tomas_> :p
[08:51] <noteventime> take a look at the video
[08:52] <noteventime> http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
[08:52] <tomas_> :p
[08:52] <noteventime> What GPU are you using?
[08:52] <hibatsu> xgl is only gtk, isn't it?
[08:52] <tomas_> NVIDIA 5900 XT
[08:52] <noteventime> no
[08:52] <noteventime> Yes!
[08:52] <noteventime> tomas_: Nice for you
[08:52] <tomas_> CANT WATCH IT :
[08:52] <tomas_> :"
[08:52] <tomas_> i gonna do a reboot
[08:52] <tomas_> see ya
[08:52] <tomas_> shortly
[08:53] <noteventime> :
[08:53] <noteventime> )
[08:53] <noteventime> hibatsu: xgl is simply xserver using the GPU
[08:53] <jpatrick> re apokryphos
[08:53] <noteventime> Or not simple but basicly
[08:55] <apokryphos> jpatrick: hey, how's it going? :)
[08:55] <jpatrick> no good - ran out of hdd space
[08:55] <tomas_> :
[08:55] <tomas_> WHERE IS MY SWEDISH KEYBOARD!!!
[08:56] <noteventime> Have you taken a look in the xorg.conf?
[08:56] <tomas_> me?
[08:56] <noteventime> yes :)
[08:56] <tomas_> and can you give me the link again please
[08:56] <noteventime> http://www.freedesktop.org/~davidr/xgl-demo1.xvid.avi
[08:56] <Tm_T> tomas_: dont yell here
[08:56] <tomas_> sorry
[08:57] <tomas_> i just get so mad when the system tell me its working but its not
[08:57] <noteventime> !pastebin
[08:57] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:57] <tomas_> i know about pastebin
[08:57] <tomas_> havent so much to paste yet
[08:58] <tomas_> expect some furniture soon :Xp:
[08:58] <noteventime> ?
[08:58] <noteventime> I needed the link :)
[08:58] <noteventime> tomas_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9311
[08:58] <tomas_> =?
[08:58] <tomas_> aha
[08:58] <tomas_> you mean that i should post my config?
[08:58] <noteventime> no
[08:58] <noteventime> i posted mine
[08:59] <tomas_> aha
[08:59] <noteventime> just the keyboard part :)
[08:59] <tomas_> moki
[08:59] <tomas_> i will compare it
[08:59] <lampshade> Is there a way to set what key combo (default is ctrl+tab) makes me switch desktops?  The ctrl+tab default is messing me up when I use programs like gaim and firefox where I want to ctrl+tab through my tabbed windows
[08:59] <noteventime> Takea look
[08:59] <noteventime> lampshade: khotkey?
[08:59] <noteventime> khotkeys
[08:59] <tomas_> noteventime: its identical
[08:59] <lampshade> khotkey?  I didn't see anything like that.  Perhaps I don't have it installed.
[08:59] <Tm_T> lampshade: systemsettings has keyboard section
[09:00] <noteventime> tomas_: hmmm
[09:00] <lampshade> ok, this is stupid, but how do I get to system settings
[09:00] <lampshade> I am lost on KDE
[09:00] <noteventime> main menu :)
[09:00] <Tm_T> lampshade: you do find Kmenu?
[09:00] <seaLne> K menu -> system settings
[09:00] <Tm_T> :p
[09:00] <tomas_> noteventime: Now I even can't play a shitty movie
[09:01] <lampshade> I click the Kmen -->  and then I have  settings or system not a system settings, though?
[09:01] <tomas_> noteventime: mpeg works :/
[09:01] <lampshade> perhaps I'm missing an app
[09:01] <lampshade> or several
[09:01] <tomas_> i'll try mplayer
[09:02] <noteventime> tomas_: Its xvid
[09:02] <tomas_> noteventime: i know, and it doesnt works in kaffeine, i'll try mplayer
[09:03] <noteventime> tomas_: Do you have xvid installed?
[09:03] <tomas_> isnt it a part of w32codecs?
[09:03] <lampshade> oh I didn't have systemsettings installed
[09:03] <lampshade> I thinks that's whys
[09:04] <noteventime> tomas_: There is a gstreamer one
[09:04] <tomas_> I'LL REMOVE W32codecs
[09:04] <tomas_> oki
[09:04] <tomas_> great
[09:04] <tomas_> first im going to remove this crap
[09:04] <tomas_> gstreamer for amarok was removed right?
[09:04] <kylev> adept-update has become worthless to me :(
[09:05] <kylev> I installed the pile of updates for 5.10, rebooted
[09:05] <kylev> and now starting adept-update tells me "You need to run this application as root to make make any use of it."
[09:05] <kylev> (doubled="make" not a typo)
[09:05] <tomas_> do you get a sudoers error?
[09:05] <tomas_> that you are not in the sudoers file or something?
[09:06] <kylev> nah, I can fire up a shell and try running adept-updater from sudo directly
[09:06] <tomas_> oki
[09:06] <tomas_> then i dont know :/
[09:06] <kylev> or "sudo su"
[09:06] <kylev> or "sudo bash"
[09:06] <noteventime> :/ im having the same problem with adept, I can't run it through kdesu
[09:07] <tomas_> i have no problems with it
[09:07] <tomas_> i may have done some insecure thing
[09:07] <kylev> are there any non-graphical updaters that I can check for updates?
[09:07] <lampshade> does your system settings have an entry on the keyboard for switching desktops?  There is no entry on mine to change?  I'm just curious.
[09:07] <tomas_> i added myself to the sudoers file
[09:07] <tomas_> but i guess that was another error
[09:07] <kylev> well, my user is in the admin group, which is in /etc/sudoers
[09:08] <kylev> sudo is running fine
[09:08] <kylev> but something is dropping privs, or adept is mi-detecting uid
[09:08] <tomas_> noteventime: help me :'(
[09:08] <noteventime> tomas_: ok
[09:08] <kylev> or maybe some file perm is borked, and adept thinks that failing to opena  file means it isn't root...
[09:09] <noteventime> tomas_: I missed your problem though
[09:09] <tomas_> noteventime: i cant get anything to play
[09:09] <tomas_> noteventime: i installed a package for xvid
[09:09] <noteventime> tolled?mas_: have you got gstreamer insta
[09:09] <tomas_> -but it doesnt work
[09:09] <noteventime> ok
[09:09] <tomas_> YES
[09:09] <noteventime> I'll try it out myself
[09:09] <tomas_> doso
[09:09] <tomas_> btw
[09:09] <noteventime> ?
[09:09] <tomas_> i can only select one engine in kaffeine :/
[09:10] <noteventime> Me too
[09:10] <noteventime> But i think there is a xine plugin
[09:10] <tomas_> i have that :/
[09:11] <noteventime> :( OMG 30mb/s
[09:11] <noteventime> kb
[09:11] <noteventime> :P
[09:11] <tomas_> i know
[09:11] <tomas_> its VERY SLOW
[09:11] <tomas_> streaming is easier
[09:11] <tomas_> noteventime: can you play most videos?
[09:12] <noteventime> I havn't played that many to be honest
[09:12] <tomas_> noteventime: i mean, do you have w32codecs?
[09:12] <tomas_> oh
[09:12] <tomas_> oki
[09:12] <noteventime> Yes i have w32codecs
[09:12] <tomas_> from where did you get it?
[09:12] <noteventime> PLF
[09:12] <tomas_> PLF?
[09:12] <tomas_> penguin liberation front :p ?
[09:13] <noteventime> yes
[09:13] <tomas_> :xp:
[09:13] <tomas_> oki
[09:13] <noteventime> hehe
[09:13] <noteventime> im trying the video now
[09:13] <noteventime> hmmm....
[09:13] <noteventime> I'm not getting any image :)
[09:14] <kylev> fucking lame
[09:14] <tomas_> ah
[09:14] <tomas_> noteventime: thank you :)
[09:14] <tomas_> anyway :p
[09:14] <noteventime> Yep?
[09:14] <tomas_> can you try to figure out why my keyboard doesnt work :p
[09:14] <noteventime> I'm trying ;)
[09:14] <kylev> this never happens in Fedora
[09:15] <_hupp3l> WTF is xlib6g?
[09:15] <tomas_> no but fedora sucks :p
[09:15] <tomas_> :p
[09:15] <_hupp3l> im having alot of dependecy problems :(
[09:15] <_hupp3l> can someone please help me
[09:15] <noteventime> sure
[09:15] <tomas_> fedora is just a thing red hat throwed away *-)
[09:15] <kylev> the inability to install updates kind of puts a damper on my "kubuntu experience"
[09:15] <kylev>  :-P
[09:15] <noteventime> _hupp3l: Are you running dapper?
[09:16] <tomas_> anyone going to buy ps3?
[09:16] <_hupp3l> yes
[09:16] <_hupp3l> and yes
[09:16] <tomas_> :p
[09:16] <tomas_> great hupp3l :D
[09:16] <noteventime> I'm not
[09:16] <tomas_> why :p
[09:17] <_hupp3l> ah boo
[09:17] <tomas_> dont tell me that you have bought crappy360
[09:17] <noteventime> _hupp3l: Are you running dapper
[09:17] <noteventime> Nope
[09:17] <_hupp3l> yes I am noteventime
[09:17] <noteventime> I've bought none
[09:17] <_hupp3l> dapper 3
[09:17] <_hupp3l> flight 3
[09:17] <xChomp> what security measures would you prefer after a kubuntu linux installation? i have a fresh installed kubuntu linux installation here on my machine
[09:17] <tomas_> its okay noteventime :p. as long as you dont support msoft ;)
[09:17] <noteventime> _hupp3l: i'll send you my sources.list
[09:17] <noteventime> and you can see if you miss one of the repos
[09:18] <noteventime> I barely play games so it's not worth the money
[09:18] <_hupp3l> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9312
[09:18] <seaLne> xChomp: a default install won't have any remotely connectable services so should be fine
[09:18] <_b> expensive titles
[09:18] <noteventime> ps3 will be 600$ :D
[09:18] <_hupp3l> but I uncommented the main dapper reposes in the meanwhile and I commented out the vlc ones
[09:18] <_b> aaah
[09:18] <xChomp> seaLne: ok, thanks for the info :)
[09:19] <Tm_T> kylev: any problems?
[09:19] <tomas_> noteventime: my ass, its speculation. it may be but none knows yet
[09:19] <kylev> Tm_T: I'm re-doing the install
[09:19] <noteventime> tomas_: :D
[09:19] <kylev> Tm_T: maybe it'll not suck this time
[09:20] <Tm_T> kylev: ok, just try to keep your language clean ;)
[09:20] <tomas_> haha :p
[09:20] <noteventime> _hupp3l: Doesn't look bad :/
[09:20] <tomas_> COMPUTER: terminal :P
[09:20] <tomas_> this is fun :p
[09:20] <_b> in the console world its allways rumors etc !
[09:20] <_hupp3l> yeah I dont understand why im having these dependency problems
[09:20] <noteventime> I don't even play computer games anymore
[09:20] <_hupp3l> would you like to see the pastebin of the error?
[09:20] <tomas_> noteventime: :/
[09:20] <kylev> Tm_T: no promises, but I won't curse unreasonably :-)
[09:20] <_hupp3l> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9312
[09:20] <Tm_T> kylev: and I won't kick unreasonably
[09:21] <Tm_T> ;)
[09:21] <noteventime> _hupp3l: Looks good :/
[09:21] <kylev> excellent
[09:21] <robotgeek> heh Tm_T :)
[09:21] <noteventime> _hupp3l: i'll paste mine
[09:21] <_hupp3l> ok thanx
[09:21] <brodel> how can I make the links open with firefox instead of konqueror?
[09:21] <Tm_T> robotgeek: yuh, bad day here ;(
[09:21] <tomas_> KControl
[09:21] <Tm_T> robotgeek: and hi to you too =)
[09:21] <robotgeek> Tm_T: why so?
[09:21] <tomas_> brodel: KControl
[09:22] <Tm_T> robotgeek: women...
[09:22] <Tm_T> robotgeek: actually just one ;)
[09:22] <robotgeek> Tm_T: hah, this is a linux only support channel :)
[09:22] <kylev> Tm_T: that means you're 1 woman up on most of the poeple here
[09:22] <tomas_> brodel: KControl > KDE-Components ( i guess) - Components
[09:23] <tomas_> oh :p
[09:23] <kylev> (myself included)
[09:23] <robotgeek> kylev: ssssh, don't depress me mate
[09:23] <tomas_> do we have a woman here?
[09:23] <noteventime> _hupp3l: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9314
[09:23] <_hupp3l> can I just copy yours over mine?
[09:23] <Tm_T> kylev: bad assuming ;)
[09:23] <noteventime> The last time i played a computer  game was 1 week ago and that was the beta off DDO
[09:23] <Tm_T> robotgeek: indeed
[09:24] <tomas_> btw :p
[09:24] <tomas_> do not forget to download dosbox :p
[09:24] <tomas_> and winter :p
[09:24] <tomas_> and lotus :p
[09:24] <noteventime> ahh, thanks
[09:24] <tomas_> and all those nice games :p
[09:24] <tomas_> dont forget lemmings :p
[09:24] <tomas_> and lost vikings :p
[09:24] <tomas_> and jones in the fast lane :D
[09:24] <brodel> tomas_: ahh.. that did it. Thanks.
[09:24] <noteventime> The only thing you need for hardcore gaming is scummvm :D
[09:24] <tomas_> :)
[09:24] <_hupp3l> noteventime: can I just copy your repos over mine?
[09:25] <tomas_> scummvm :p
[09:25] <noteventime> _hupp3l: how do you mean?
[09:25] <tomas_> CP SOURCES.LIST :o
[09:25] <DocTomoe> my sound just ceased to work under dapper - without updating anything. any ideas what to do?
[09:25] <tomas_> sorry guys :xp:
[09:25] <_hupp3l> like delete my repos in my sources.list file and copy in yours?
[09:25] <tomas_> im a little high tonight :p
[09:25] <noteventime> You should be able to, but you would get the swedish mirrors
[09:26] <noteventime> tomas_: dont tell me you havn't played monkey island?
[09:26] <tomas_> just change se to your countries prefix
[09:26] <_hupp3l> hmm I dont think that would matter too much
[09:26] <tomas_> noteventime: i have :p
[09:26] <tomas_> noteventime: 1-3
[09:26] <tomas_> and the 3d one too
[09:26] <comptoyou> how do I install crossover in ubuntu ?
[09:26] <tomas_> i like 3 the most :p
[09:26] <noteventime> nice
[09:26] <tomas_> doesnt crossover cost?
[09:26] <noteventime> same here
[09:26] <comptoyou> yup
[09:27] <noteventime> hehe
[09:27] <tomas_> noteventime: a pirate i was meant to be. trim the sails and roam the sea :p
[09:27] <noteventime> depends :D
[09:27] <noteventime> tomas_: This is just ridiculus
[09:27] <tomas_> noteventime :p
[09:27] <tomas_> i have the song somewhere :p
[09:27] <noteventime> tomas_: I have that one
[09:27] <tomas_> :p
[09:27] <noteventime> tomas_: I have 7:45 minutes of monkey island music XD
[09:28] <noteventime> 7h 45 min
[09:28] <tomas_> noteventime: noooooooooooo :gonk: lycko dig :p
[09:28] <hibatsu> How can I get gstreamer to work in amarok in dapper?
[09:28] <noteventime> www.scummbar.com
[09:28] <tid-wave> activate universe
[09:28] <tid-wave> and then install gstreamer-mad
[09:28] <hibatsu> already happened
[09:28] <hibatsu> and w32codecs
[09:29] <hibatsu> and ffmpeg installed
[09:29] <noteventime> tomas_: 295 lster, kan laddas ner frn www.scummbar.com
[09:29] <noteventime> ltar*
[09:29] <hibatsu> but I can't select the gstreamer-engine
[09:29] <tomas_> noteventime: :D
[09:29] <hibatsu> in the amarok menu
[09:29] <noteventime> tomas_: The problem is you have to download them one by one XD
[09:29] <tomas_> hey!
[09:29] <tomas_> noteventime: i can play mp3s in mplayer :p
[09:29] <noteventime> nice
[09:30] <noteventime> not in amaroK?
[09:30] <tomas_> noteventime: but not in amarok or kaffeine :p
[09:30] <noteventime> you have gstreamer-mad
[09:30] <apokryphos> tomas_: install amarok-xine
[09:30] <apokryphos> gstreamer0.8-mad to use the gstreamer engine
[09:30] <tomas_> mm
[09:30] <tomas_> i better remove it?
[09:30] <noteventime> It works for me :)
[09:30] <apokryphos> huh?
[09:30] <tomas_> oki
[09:32] <noteventime> Lets see how big they are gzipped
[09:32] <louis_> Hello
[09:32] <louis_> I have this:http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=30780
[09:32] <louis_> and i want to install it
[09:32] <tomas_> still it doesnt work :/
[09:32] <tomas_> just in mplayer :/
[09:32] <louis_> but in the KDM, when i browse to add a theme, it doesn't want to install
[09:32] <tomas_> noteventime: have you hear Puff The Magic Dragon :p ?
[09:33] <noteventime> You are not supposed to extract the files louis_
[09:33] <louis_> oh
[09:33] <noteventime> tomas_: MI song?
[09:33] <jpatrick> louis_: edit your /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[09:33] <pulver> hey! did a kubuntu server install to get encrypted ROOT.. it works in breezy but after upgrade to dapper i get devfs errors at boot. suspect the line '#kopt=root=/dev/mapper/root devfs=mount ro' in /boot/grub/menu.lst. any ideas how to make it right? im no guru...
[09:33] <tomas_> noteventime: MI?
[09:33] <noteventime> monkey island
[09:33] <louis_> pulver, then use ubuntu!
[09:33] <louis_> for a server install, that's the same thing
[09:34] <tomas_> noteventime: no :p
[09:34] <tomas_> noteventime: puff the magic dragon lived by the sea :p
[09:34] <noteventime> no :D
[09:34] <tomas_> noteventime: awesome song :p
[09:34] <pulver> louis_: the encryption problem is not ubuntu specific, so whats your point
[09:34] <louis_> noteventime: herm. :/ it doesn't find the configuration file
[09:34] <tomas_> noteventime: oh puff the magic dragon :p
[09:35] <louis_> pulver: my point is: why using Kubuntu, with a bit less support then Ubuntu, if you run only console mode
[09:35] <robotgeek> louis_: cause kde > gnome :)
[09:35] <louis_> robotgeek , i know
[09:36] <louis_> but in console only (server), what's the difference?
[09:36] <pulver> louis_: well was just asking if someone had experienced the same thing and had any ideas. never mind i'll figure it out..eventually
[09:36] <robotgeek> louis_: yeah, no difference
[09:36] <noteventime> tomas_: Accept the transfer :)
[09:36] <louis_> heh :)
[09:36] <louis_> noteventime , it says that it don't find the config file :/
[09:37] <tomplast_mekar> aha you can send files :p
[09:37] <tomplast_mekar> slow speed :p
[09:38] <tomas_> do you have msn noteventime?
[09:38] <noteventime> Yes
[09:38] <tomas_> can i have yours?
[09:38] <noteventime> noteventime@gmail.com
[09:38] <tomas_> :)
[09:39] <noteventime> Wel try there instead XD
[09:39] <noteventime> Was way to slow
[09:40] <noteventime> spaceprogrammer?
[09:40] <tomas_> ^^
[09:41] <jpatrick> it is not wise to surf as root
[09:41] <pulver> :)
[09:42] <seg-fault> I know I'm currently in Single user mode... Having issues with my Dlink wireless and Dapper
[09:43] <louis_> does anyone have/know a pack to transform my Kubuntu into MacOsX look?
[09:43] <seg-fault> Interesting issue. Kernel picks up wlan0 card ..but the link light only lights up during initialization.
[09:44] <noteventime> louis_ use baghira
[09:44] <louis_> what is this?
[09:45] <noteventime> A theme
[09:45] <noteventime> Or rather a pack of themes
[09:45] <louis_> oh
[09:45] <noteventime> Do you know how o change themes?
[09:46] <louis_> yeah :)
[09:46] <louis_> i just had trouble with kdm ;/
[09:46] <louis_> and still
[09:47] <noteventime> Do you habe theme KDM manager installed
[09:47] <noteventime> The channel is a bit more calm now
[09:48] <louis_> yeah
[09:48] <louis_> oh
[09:48] <louis_> is it installed in kubuntu?
[09:48] <louis_> by default
[09:50] <louis_> hum
[09:50] <louis_> noteventime, will baghira replace kde?
[09:51] <kylev> ... and I crashed adept
[09:53] <noteventime> lous_: sorry im back now, no
[09:53] <louis_> ;p
[09:53] <noteventime> lous_: Its only a KDM theme
[09:53] <louis_> k
[09:53] <noteventime> search baghira in adept
[09:55] <NRG88> when i try to play a dvd, it appears on only half a screen, even in fullscreen mode in mplayer
[09:55] <NRG88> why? :(
[09:57] <noteventime> NRG88: What player?
[09:57] <NRG88> mplayer
[09:57] <hugelmopf> NRG88: choose another video outpu
[09:58] <hugelmopf> t
[09:58] <louis_> noteventime , thanks
[09:58] <louis_> and other thing
[09:58] <hugelmopf> NRG88: xv
[09:58] <noteventime> sure
[09:58] <louis_> wait*
[09:58] <noteventime> I vill :)
[09:58] <louis_> :P okay ;)
[10:01] <hugelmopf> NRG88: does it work?
[10:01] <tomplast> nah, now its enough of this for today. bye everyone. goodnight in some hours
[10:02] <NRG88> 1 min
[10:02] <noteventime> bye
[10:03] <NRG88> strange, the dvd doesn't mount
[10:03] <dirk_> hey
[10:03] <noteventime> 'ello
[10:04] <dirk_> i need some help
[10:04] <noteventime> Just ask :D
[10:05] <louis_> noteventime , do you read french?
[10:05] <dirk_> one harddisk(my data harddisk to switch files with windows) doesnt work
[10:05] <noteventime> louis_: Just very very very very little :P
[10:05] <louis_> ok
[10:05] <louis_> i'll make a screenshot for you of the problem with my kdm
[10:05] <NRG88> dirk_, more details?
[10:05] <noteventime> dirk_: you can get the files directly from the windows disk
[10:05] <kubby510> can someone help me get hotplug working?
[10:06] <noteventime> louis_: sure
[10:06] <dirk_> and it says Mount:can't find /dev/hdc6 in ect/fstab or ect/mtab
[10:06] <noteventime> Then you have to add it :)
[10:06] <tigerkub> can someone tell me what files arr important for hotplug?
[10:07] <syl> hi
[10:07] <dirk_> wit what parameters?
[10:07] <syl> i have kubuntu 5.10 and hibernate dont work
[10:08] <syl> it say in log
[10:08] <syl> hibernate: [10]  Executing EnsureSwsusp2Capable ...
[10:08] <syl> Your kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in.
[10:08] <dirk_> (im using dapper drake flight 4)
[10:08] <ciga> hi
[10:09] <louis_> :)
[10:09] <dirk_> what parameters do i have to ad?
[10:09] <NRG88> hugelmopf,
[10:09] <NRG88> thanks, it works
[10:10] <ciga> I try to compile amarok from trunk on breezy with kde 3.5.1. It fails with an errors: threadweaver.h:101: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of QMutex with no type
[10:10] <ciga> anyone can help me with this?
[10:11] <dirk_> some one please help!
[10:11] <louis_> noteventime , notice me your e-mail please
[10:11] <_b> is there a way to list a unknow drive partions like xp diskmanager ?
[10:12] <Metalface> ?
[10:13] <dirk_> some one please help?
[10:13] <louis_> noteventime :)
[10:13] <noteventime> back
[10:13] <noteventime> sorrt
[10:15] <louis_> :)
[10:15] <louis_> notice me your e-mail please
[10:15] <louis_> i'll send ya the screenshot
[10:15] <noteventime> !pastebin
[10:15] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:15] <noteventime> you use that -^
[10:16] <louis_> well!
[10:16] <louis_> nice
[10:16] <noteventime> :))
[10:16] <_hupp3l> noteventime: I still cant get vlc to install
[10:17] <noteventime> hmmm
[10:17] <louis_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9319
[10:18] <louis_> traduction: "Impossible to load theme's configuration file."
[10:19] <noteventime> hmmm, i actualy could read that :D
[10:19] <louis_> ;)
[10:20] <noteventime> hmm...
[10:20] <noteventime> I'll take a look at the theme
[10:20] <louis_> k
[10:21] <noteventime> It works for me
[10:21] <louis_> huh o_O
[10:21] <noteventime> just enter http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=30780&id=1&PHPSESSID=f67edaeb58f934613736d43df09cd74e in the location
[10:21] <noteventime> It will download and install automaticly
[10:21] <louis_> oh
[10:21] <louis_> ok :L)
[10:21] <louis_> -L
[10:22] <noteventime> Works better now?
[10:22] <louis_> i'll try
[10:23] <louis_> it's laggy because i'm installing limewire
[10:23] <noteventime> why not frostwire
[10:25] <louis_> same error, n
[10:25] <noteventime> :~( hmmm
[10:25] <louis_> ;/
[10:25] <noteventime> Thats strange
[10:25] <louis_> yay
[10:25] <noteventime> +
[10:25] <noteventime> ?
[10:25] <louis_> ?
[10:26] <noteventime> yay?
[10:26] <noteventime> Was it just ment as yes?
[10:26] <noteventime> or was it yay! as in yes it worked?
[10:26] <louis_> it was in yes, to agree that it's strange
[10:27] <louis_> omg
[10:27] <louis_> and limewire doesn't want to start ;/
[10:27] <noteventime> try frostwire
[10:27] <louis_> i installed limewire with alien
[10:28] <louis_> how i uninstall it?
[10:29] <noteventime> i have no idea dpkg --purge limewire?
[10:29] <louis_> i'll try
[10:29] <louis_> just apt-get remove limewire-free worked ;)
[10:30] <noteventime> nice
[10:31] <louis_> and where i find this "frostwire?"
[10:31] <noteventime> google ;)
[10:31] <dirk_> www.frostwire.com
[10:37] <Mrono> where be brenden
[10:38] <__mikem> is it posible to use screen resolutions higher than 1024x768 in kde
[10:38] <Mrono> yep
[10:38] <Mrono> i'm running at 1440x900
[10:38] <__mikem> I tried running kubuntu under vmware, and for the life of me couldn't get it to go higher than 1024x768
[10:38] <Mrono> need help setting it higher
[10:39] <Mrono> gotta configure the xorg
[10:39] <__mikem> I did that
[10:39] <Mrono> and.
[10:39] <__mikem> nothing happened
[10:39] <Mrono> did you restart X
[10:39] <__mikem> yes
[10:40] <__mikem> does it matter that it was running under vmware
[10:40] <Mrono> to be honest I don't even know what vmware is
[10:40] <__mikem> www.vmware.com
[10:41] <Mrono> so it's like virtual machine
[10:41] <louis_> me, i have an ati radeon 7000 with dual screen output, and i don't know how to activate the 2nd screen
[10:41] <louis_> Mrono it's
[10:41] <__mikem> thats exactly what it is
[10:41] <ciga> louis_: I think you should use fglrx
[10:41] <Mrono> I have an ati radon 9000 and I can't get the opengl or 3d acceleartion to work
[10:41] <ciga> __mikem: what driver do you use for xorg?
[10:41] <__mikem> the funny thing is I also have ubuntu (gnome based) running on another virtual machine and I can but that at what ever res I want
[10:42] <Mrono> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing
[10:42] <Mrono> just different window managers
[10:42] <louis_> ;) ok
[10:42] <seg-fault> I think mvware mught not allow access to the frame buffer
[10:42] <dragonkh> hi
[10:42] <Mrono> KDM and GDM
[10:42] <__mikem> Mrono I know thats what befuddles me
[10:42] <Mrono> not sure
[10:42] <ciga> __mikem: prolly cos you are running ubuntu without vmware, right?
[10:42] <louis_> ciga: , it's installing!
[10:42] <louis_> thanks
[10:42] <Mrono> hobbsee
[10:42] <dragonkh> how do I remove the first entry in an array?
[10:42] <Mrono> you here
[10:42] <__mikem> I have both running under vmware
[10:42] <dragonkh> pop ?
[10:43] <ciga> dragonkh: pop is the last, does not it?
[10:43] <dragonkh> shift
[10:43] <dragonkh> I think works
[10:44] <__mikem> ???????????
[10:44] <ciga> __mikem: maybe you need to copy the good xorg.conf to the one that is in vmware
[10:44] <kylev> adept seems to crash on the unzip update...
[10:44] <_b> !ntfs
[10:44] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:44] <ciga> __mikem: of course the one that was worked right inside vmware.
[10:44] <__mikem> Problem is I am not sure how to do that, don't worry about it for now, Ill live with it
[10:46] <__mikem> !wine
[10:46] <louis_> ciga
[10:46] <louis_> i have 1 tv output and 2 screen outputs.
[10:48] <Mrono> is there any way to mount an ntfs filesytstem as write
[10:48] <Mrono> hey mike
[10:48] <louis_> yeh
[10:48] <louis_> google it, i found something yesterday
[10:48] <Mrono> I have a working wine repository
[10:48] <Mrono> if ya want it
[10:49] <Mrono> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[10:49] <__mikem> I already have wine, I have been trying to get rhapsody jukebox to run under it
[10:49] <Mrono> ah
[10:50] <Mrono> I got UT to run under it
[10:50] <Mrono> i'm happy
[10:50] <Mrono> lol
[10:50] <louis_> is it possible to convert Kubuntu into Ubuntu easy?
[10:50] <Mrono> yep
[10:50] <__mikem> I got Bejeweled 2 to run under it
[10:50] <Mrono> install the GDM and remove the KDE
[10:50] <Mrono> KDM
[10:50] <__mikem> YOu don't need to remove kde
[10:50] <Mrono> true
[10:50] <__mikem> you can have both on the same box
[10:50] <__mikem> like me
[10:51] <kosh> yeah you can be crazy just like __mikem ;)
[10:51] <kosh> just teasing
[10:51] <Mrono> is it possible to chage the size of the linux partition easy?
[10:51] <__mikem> lol
[10:51] <louis_> but Mrono, is it gonna be easy?
[10:51] <__mikem> Yup
[10:52] <Mrono> lol
[10:52] <louis_> and does all the kde shits will stay there?
[10:52] <louis_> configs?
[10:52] <Mrono> I have a duek biit
[10:52] <louis_> and shares? icons?
[10:52] <Mrono> duel boot winxp
[10:52] <__mikem> Its as easy as opening your faorite package manager, and finding the right package
[10:52] <Mrono> so I want to make a fat32 partition to be read by both
[10:53] <__mikem> *faVorite
[10:53] <Mrono> brb
[10:53] <Mrono> eat
[10:53] <__mikem> hb
[10:53] <_hupp3l> what program can I use to show my stats and like batterylife on my desktop?
[10:53] <_hupp3l> something like konfabulator or samurize?
[10:53] <noteventime> super karamba
[10:53] <__mikem> Atleast on my laptop, ubuntu already does that
[10:53] <kylev> ... and there goes adept again
[10:54] <_hupp3l> super karamba?
[10:54] <_hupp3l> will it come with dapper?
[10:54] <noteventime> I dont think so
[10:55] <noteventime> There will be an equvivalent thing in KDE4 though
[10:55] <__mikem> I wonder what KDE4 will be like
[10:55] <noteventime> super cool X)
[10:55] <__mikem> no doubt
[10:55] <jpatrick> _hupp3l: it is in Dapper
[10:55] <__mikem> !kde
[10:55] <ubotu> it has been said that kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[10:56] <_hupp3l> whereunder?
[10:56] <__mikem> !kde4
[10:56] <ubotu> it has been said that kde4 is http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html
[10:58] <_b> anyone using a old 2,5 drive in usb chase here ?
[11:09] <rocafella> How do I change my default display manager in kubunu? I want it to start xdm on boot instead of KDM
[11:10] <__mikem> dpkg-reconfigure xdm
[11:10] <__mikem> something like that
[11:11] <rocafella> thanks, mikem
[11:11] <flixor> is there a special dapper channel
[11:13] <arrinmurr> well, there's #ubuntu+1
[11:13] <flixor> oke anybody overhere installed dapper
[11:16] <rocafella> how do I disable the tap to click function on my laptop? it is getting pretty annoying
[11:18] <cadfael> 'lo all, anyone around to give a noob some help?
[11:18] <__mikem> only another noob
[11:18] <Mrono> hi
[11:18] <Mrono> ditto
[11:18] <cadfael> Oi.
[11:19] <cadfael> Well.  I am have two problems.
[11:19] <cadfael> First, Kubuntu seems unable to reboot the box.  It just goes to sleep or something.  This happened during the initial install and every time after.
[11:20] <cadfael> Second, even tho I have all the repos enabled in Adept, I know I am not seeing the correct number of packages.
[11:20] <cadfael> See http://pastebin.com/572403 ,,, that's my sources list
[11:21] <__mikem> I am considering just installing vmware on this laptop and using reactos or something
[11:23] <spiritz> I'm struggling to make my fglrx driver 8.22.5 to work on dapper. I get stuck because of a weird message "did you mean tab instead of 8 spaces" when doing module-assistant. Has anyone expercienced this?
[11:23] <cadfael> can anyone open up adept and see how many packages you have available?  I show 16886, my other kubuntu box shows ~17k
[11:23] <cadfael> spiritz: no, sorry
[11:26] <spiritz> thanks anyway :)
[11:28] <robotgeek> spiritz: in a make file, you have to have tabs instead of spaces somewhere
[11:29] <spiritz> ok
[11:29] <spiritz> I'll have a look
[11:29] <spiritz> how can ATI provide drivers with such a mistake?:o
[11:29] <Biff`> It's ATI.
[11:30] <spiritz> ;)
[11:30] <spiritz> actually I have no idea what the module-assistant is triggering
[11:31] <hDp`> ET merc dispo
[11:32] <cadfael> I know nothing about graphics cards, but someone just clued me in that the Radeon that comes with this box (OEM) somehow "shares" ram with the comp
[11:32] <cadfael> instead of having its own onboard memory, apparently, it sucks down like 128m of system ram
[11:32] <spiritz> maybe but not mine
[11:33] <spiritz> this is shared memory, low cost video card have such "feature"... but most of ati cards are not low cost ones
[11:33] <brodel> a lot of cards do that now.
[11:33] <Mrono> I hate shared memory
[11:33] <Mrono> it decreises the gfx performence
[11:33] <Mrono> anf unfortunately I have one
[11:34] <spiritz> which one do u have? the intel something?
[11:35] <Mrono> ati
[11:35] <Mrono> ati radon 9000
[11:35] <spiritz> ok it's a old one
[11:35] <Mrono> which is stupid
[11:35] <Mrono> cuz this computer is brand new
[11:35] <Mrono> well
[11:35] <spiritz> I m not even sure ati is providing support for this one through their drivers, right?
[11:35] <Mrono> mabye a few months old
[11:35] <Mrono> they should be
[11:37] <NRG88> why can't i eject a cd from the device itself? i need to rightclick and eject from linux
[11:37] <spiritz> NRG88: it required to be unmounted before ejecting
[11:38] <brodel> I hate that too NRG88
[11:38] <NRG88> :(
[11:40] <Mrono> mines ejects just fine
[11:41] <cadfael> shared ram is a stupid idea
[11:41] <cadfael> I mean sure it's cheap
[11:41] <cadfael> but why would I pay for a video card except to take some load off the system?
[11:41] <Mrono> yep
[11:41] <Mrono> this laptop is 3.33ghz
[11:41] <Mrono> 1gb ram
[11:42] <Mrono> 100gb HD
[11:42] <Mrono> 17in screen
[11:42] <cadfael> It will be fine once I get more RAM perhaps, but this one just came with 256m (got it offa craigslist, don't laugh)
[11:42] <Mrono> and they put an ati radon 9000 with 128mb shared rn
[11:42] <Biff`> haha
[11:42] <cadfael> shut up Chris
[11:42] <Biff`> I have some "unaccounted for" ram at work.
[11:42] <cadfael> you don't say...
[11:43] <Mrono> heh
[11:43] <brodel> best laptop I've ever owned
[11:43] <cadfael> any chance you could just...misplace one of the alienware boxes?
[11:43] <Mrono> they are cheap bastards
[11:43] <Biff`> I just had to send 2 alienware laptops back for service.
[11:43] <Mrono> this laptop overheats
[11:43] <Mrono> screens going
[11:43] <cadfael> it's not overheating.  it is a lap warmer.
[11:43] <brodel> vaios
[11:43] <Mrono> has mem problems
[11:43] <Mrono> unconfirmed
[11:44] <brodel> sounds like my sony I had hehe
[11:44] <Mrono> I ran a mem test and it did 9 passes with 0 error
[11:44] <Biff`> I have an old Vaio at work... Kubuntu works great on it... can't get XP to run at optimal resolution at all.
[11:44] <Mrono> It's like a fricking jumbo jet
[11:44] <Mrono> loud
[11:44] <coolio10> hi
[11:44] <Mrono> xp works great on it because of all the damn drivers I have to use to get it to work right
[11:44] <brodel> I have dropped my toshiba pretty hard a few times and worried it wouldn't work again. the worst that ever happened is the speaker cover popped off.
[11:44] <cadfael> We should see if we can get Dave to donate it.
[11:44] <Mrono> I like dells
[11:44] <Biff`> brodel ... is it a toughbook?
[11:44] <cadfael> Tell him it's broken
[11:45] <brodel> Biff`:  no
[11:45] <brodel> just an old-ish satellite
[11:45] <Mrono> mines a p35-s111
[11:45] <Mrono> satellite
[11:45] <Biff`> cadfael ... it won't even POST ... dout it's even usefull as a boat anchor.
[11:45] <Mrono> I set it on a bed and in 30 sec it overheats
[11:46] <coolio10> how do you use wine?
[11:46] <Biff`> apt -get install wine
[11:46] <Biff`> wine yourprogram.exe
[11:46] <Biff`> I'm chatting with mIRC via wine.
[11:46] <Mrono> really
[11:46] <Mrono> mine closes after a fedw min
[11:46] <brodel> haha
[11:46] <cadfael> are you just too good for Konversation?  Is that it?
[11:46] <Mrono> it'll open
[11:46] <Mrono> but then it closes
[11:46] <Biff`> mirc is teh shiat.
[11:46] <Mrono> I want my mirc back
[11:47] <Mrono> agreed
[11:47] <coolio10> what you mean wine myprogram.exe?
[11:47] <cadfael> Biff`:  you're running bitchx too aren't you?
[11:47] <Mrono> coolio10
[11:47] <Mrono> right click on the exe
[11:47] <Mrono> click open with
[11:47] <Mrono> and type wine in the top
[11:47] <Biff`> cadfael ... nope... just mIRC.
[11:47] <Mrono> then click ok
[11:47] <cadfael> I want to run kubuntu inside a vmware box inside wine on kubuntu
[11:48] <Tm_T> ok
[11:48] <Biff`> What could go wrong?
[11:48] <cadfael> nothing!  that's the beauty of it.
[11:49] <cadfael> if something goes wrong with the plan, just change it and claim it was always like that
[11:49] <brodel> I couldn't get vmware to run in linux
[11:50] <Mrono> s
[11:50] <Mrono> eesee
[11:50] <Mrono> see*
[11:50] <Mrono> it'll run
[11:50] <Mrono> but then i'll crash in a few min
[11:50] <Biff`> I'm running mIRC 6.16 just fine.
[11:50] <Mrono> WW: test
[11:51] <Biff`> Wine even created a shortcut on my desktop... no problems.
[11:51] <_b> does audio app run under wine ?
[11:51] <_b> i mean is the ms sound mapper shit emulated ?
[11:51] <Mrono> like what
[11:52] <Mrono> oh yeah
[11:52] <cadfael> Biff`: you never have any problems
[11:52] <cadfael> you lead a charmed life
[11:52] <_b> nice!
[11:52] <cadfael> remember what a pain in the ass it was when I tried to install Superkaramba?
[11:52] <_b> got some app hard to live without
[11:52] <Biff`> It was easy here.
[11:53] <cadfael> Maybe if I stopped using computers from 10 years ago I would have fewer problems
[11:53] <Biff`> your sources.list was teh suck.
[11:53] <Biff`> heh.
[11:53] <cadfael> Can you loan me $3k until payday?
[11:53] <Mrono> hmm
[11:53] <Biff`> 1990 called. It wants its PC back.
[11:53] <Mrono> it's running rather well
[11:54] <_b> im running old epia 500 mhz
[11:54] <cadfael> So today I find my roommate had halflife 2.  I never got to play it (was running a p3/500 when it was out) so now I'm all excited
[11:54] <cadfael> up until it asks for a CD key.  "Ozzy, have you got the CD key?"  "What CD key?"
[11:55] <cadfael> "The one that came with the game, and the manuals, in the box."  "I tossed all that shit out."
[11:55] <_b> lol!
[11:55] <cadfael> He's all "I thought steam would just register it for you."
[11:56] <cadfael> ok brb reboot
[11:57] <reidms> Can someone please help me, I am having serious problems!
[11:57] <Mrono> lol
[11:57] <_b> u re online it cant be that serious !
[11:57] <Mrono> wee
[11:57] <Mrono> I got my mirc back
[11:57] <Mrono> happy days
[11:58] <reidms> Im using a live CD
[11:58] <_b> ops
[11:58] <Mrono> I'm going to try to run linux on my server
[11:58] <Mrono> see if it works
[11:58] <Mrono> I may end up doing that
[11:59] <reidms> I had Kubuntu booting fine, then I tried to install Fedora Core 4 and it wouldnt work.  I reinstalled Kubuntu and now when I try to boot it all it is a a blinking curser.
[12:00] <NRG88> if i go under ctrl+alt+f1 for example, how do i return?
[12:01] <reidms> What do you think I did?  Did I destroy my MBR?  Kubuntu says that I installed grub, but grub wont come up.
[12:01] <Mrono> ctrl+alt+f7
[12:01] <Mrono> I use it as like a restore thing
[12:01] <NRG88> thanks Mrono
[12:01] <Mrono> incase something in the xwindow screwes up
[12:01] <Mrono> and I cant get to a console
[12:02] <Mrono> I just do that and do ps -x to show all the processes
[12:02] <NRG88> yeah, vmware screewed it up for me last time
[12:02] <Mrono> and kill what I need
[12:02] <NRG88> i did the same thing, only didn't know how to come back :D i used ctrl+alt+f8
[12:02] <NRG88> and the f11 i think, and could'n switch anymore
[12:03] <NRG88> these are terminals?
[12:03] <Mrono> y
[12:03] <Mrono> ep