[12:58] <Tekeo> anyone here got the possability to answer a few questions?
[01:04] <Tekeo> well...
[01:05] <Tekeo> is it possible to integrate the desktop computers with edubuntu to storages (user specified) of the windows network?
[01:05] <Tekeo> *on
[01:08] <Tekeo> pleait would be really nice with answers plz
[01:13] <Vego> Are you asking if edubuntu can use a Windows server as homedirs for users?
[01:13] <Tekeo> yes
[01:13] <Tekeo> you know user specified storages on the network
[01:14] <Vego> I'm not too famliar with Edubuntus setup, but I would guess they use NFS, and not SMB (windows share system) for home directories by default.
[01:14] <spacey> is there a way to globally disable all screensavers except blank screen?
[01:15] <Vego> But it is possible to set up homedirs on samba mounts, i.e. windows shares.
[01:15] <Vego> How you do this, I'm not too familiar, as its ages since I had to do it.
[01:15] <Tekeo> well I want user X to get access to ONLY user X storage on the windows network
[01:16] <Tekeo> so that's possible?
[01:16] <Vego> Tekeo: What you can do is look at smbmount.
[01:18] <Vego> But I'd guess someone somewhere has done something similar on Edubuntu. On #Debian-Edu several teachers have to mix linux and windows
[01:18] <Vego> Best bet to find out would be to ask on the mailinglists.
[01:19] <Tekeo> ok
[01:19] <Vego> I myself mount up my university homedirs fra windows servers to my Ubuntu desktop, so yes, it is possible.
[01:20] <Vego> But how to do it smart, and genereically for all users, I don't know.
[01:20] <Vego> fra = from
[01:20] <Tekeo> ok
[01:22] <Tekeo> because the situation is this: there is a computer room which only 1/3 of the schools students should have access to and there are like windows 95/08/xp etc on the computer and still those other 2/3 got access there
[01:22] <Tekeo> *computers
[01:23] <Tekeo> and then ofcource money matters
[01:23] <Tekeo> so a switch to linux would be really nice
[01:29] <Vego> If you are considdering a swtich, you should talk to a local support group or company that supports different GNU/linux solutions. Alternatively, use quite a bit of time to set yourself into GNU/Linux.
[01:29] <Vego> Which is the best, in every case.
[01:30] <Vego> The more you know, the easier it is to make it work seamlessly.
[01:46] <karU> Hello...
[01:48] <karU> hello ogra
[01:49] <karU> Anyone, I wanted to install edubuntu on an older pc today and wanted to know if this would be an appropriate chat room to turn to if I had any probs?
[01:50] <Tekeo> I guess so
[01:50] <karU> thanks, didn't know if this was just for useability q's only.
[04:54] <spacey> can someone enlighten me on the way to add systemwide stuff to the gnome menu?
[04:54] <spacey> just adding the .desktop icons is not enough
[04:54] <spacey> you need to register them somewhere
[04:54] <spacey> but i cannot find where
[04:55] <spacey> at most I found some undocumented scripts which seem to do this
[04:55] <spacey> ogra: ? someone else?
[04:57] <ogra> putting them to /usr/share/applications should suffice
[04:57] <spacey> doesn't work
[04:57] <spacey> update-desktop-database --help
[04:57] <spacey> is not really helpful
[04:57] <ogra> then the contents of the .desktop file might be wrong 
[04:58] <spacey> I created the .desktop files with the menu editor
[04:58] <ogra> it works to copy them there without running update-desktop-database
[04:58] <spacey> and they work for 1 user
[04:58] <spacey> but even if i copy ~/.local to another user
[04:58] <spacey> it doesn't work
[04:58] <ogra> look into th efile 
[04:59] <ogra> (paste it anywhere)
[05:00] <spacey> i don't understand how it determines the category in the menu either
[05:00] <spacey> but it works
[05:00] <spacey> somehow
[05:00] <spacey> for that one user
[05:03] <spacey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9363
[05:04] <lucasvo> what do you think, is it good publicity for a commercial company to have an oss project?
[05:04] <lucasvo> hm, actually it is the strategy from canonical ;-P
[05:05] <spacey> lucasvo: all depends on how they handle the project i guess;p
[05:06] <ogra> spacey, youre missing category entries ...
[05:06] <spacey> yeah i noticed 
[05:07] <spacey> but still a bit wierd
[05:07] <ogra> als dont use spaces in such filenames
[05:07] <ogra> nautilus will show you the name inside the file, no need to make the filename overcomplicated ...
[05:08] <ogra> additionally, dont use paths for icons
[05:08] <spacey> if you want a subdirectory you can just specify Category in a .directory file
[05:08] <spacey> hmm
[05:09] <spacey> just the filename of the icon i see in other .desktop files
[05:09] <ogra> thats wrong ...
[05:09] <ogra> the spac forbids pathnames to make it possible to theme the icons
[05:10] <spacey> ok
[05:10] <spacey> thats nice
[05:10] <ogra> (might not be really important for selfmade custom icons)
[05:11] <spacey> X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=gnome-menus
[05:11] <spacey> that needed?
[05:11] <ogra> thats only for apps in main
[05:11] <spacey> oh ok
[05:11] <ogra> its used by the language pack generator
[05:11] <spacey> its a .directory btw
[05:11] <spacey> ok
[05:12] <ogra> in any case the category entry should let the icon appear magically in your menu :)
[05:12] <ogra> (systemwide)
[05:14] <spacey> yeah but it needs its own category
[05:14] <spacey> to seperate it from the rest
[05:14] <spacey> i'm gonna edit the files a bit
[05:14] <spacey> and try again
[05:24] <spacey> http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~spacey/files/menu/
[05:24] <spacey> should this work
[05:24] <spacey> ?
[05:24] <spacey> ogra:)
[05:25] <ogra> try it, i never added a toplevel category ...
[05:25] <spacey> doesn't seem to
[05:25] <spacey> ;x
[05:26] <spacey> nope doesn't work
[05:30] <spacey> but it has something to do with the Category stuff
[05:30] <spacey> if i put it in Category Office it shows up
[05:43] <lucasvo> !limewire
[05:52] <spacey> ogra: i guess the toplevel dirs need to be registered somewhere
[05:52] <ogra> /etc/menu-xdg or something ? 
[05:53] <ogra> /etc/xdg/menus/
[05:54] <spacey> yay
[05:55] <spacey> your my personal hero
[05:55] <spacey> ;)
[05:59] <spacey> ogra: it works, thanks
[06:06] <spacey> ogra: today we switched 15 pc's to edubuntu thinclients. and we will get feedback next week. after that we'll switch the rest of the 50 to be clients
[06:06] <ogra> yay \o/
[06:07] <littlepaul> spacey, would you like to write a story about this?
[06:19] <spacey> littlepaul: for what?:)
[06:19] <littlepaul> for fridge :)
[06:19] <spacey> sur
[06:19] <spacey> e
[06:19] <spacey> i will blog about it as well
[06:19] <spacey> but i can write something for the fridge as well
[06:20] <littlepaul> great, thx. I am very interested 
[06:20] <spacey> littlepaul: ofcourse when its finished
[06:20] <littlepaul> sure
[06:20] <spacey> every thinclient has autologin :)
[06:20] <littlepaul> nice