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kmongood night everyone12:20
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Hobbseebye kmon 12:21
Hobbseehey seth!12:21
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robotgeekhey Hobbsee, seth12:31
Hobbseehi robotgeek :)12:32
robotgeekHobbsee: howz it going?12:36
Hobbseepretty good, just woke up12:36
robotgeekHobbsee: ah, nice. I'm at a friends house, meeting him after 3 years!12:37
robotgeekhe's sleeping, but he's got wireless :)12:37
Hobbsee:) fun!12:37
Tm_THobbsee: o/12:38
Hobbseehey Tm_T 12:38
Tm_THobbsee: how you're always up this late12:38
Tm_T... you live in US?12:38
Hobbseeit's 10.38am sunday - no12:38
crimsunhah, try the other side of the world12:38
Tm_TAus :)12:39
Tm_T0139 here12:39
Hobbseehehe12:39
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robotgeekhi, can someone tell me what to use inplace of gstreamer, since kubuntu doesn't use it anymore? http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch03s03.html01:58
Hobbsee_awayrobotgeek: xine, i think01:59
robotgeekHobbsee_away: would you be able to give me a list of packages to install? like in the link?02:00
Hobbsee_awayer...um...*thinks*02:03
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robotgeekHobbsee_away: later is also okay :)02:03
Tm_THobbsee_away: cheater!02:03
=== Tm_T will use gstreamer a lot
Tm_Tgst 0.10 in amaroK for example02:04
=== robotgeek wants a installable list, really :)
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robotgeekTm_T: tell me, lol02:06
Tm_Trobotgeek: for what purpose?02:06
Tm_Tw32codecs and humm, libxine?02:07
robotgeekhttp://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch03s03.html similiar for kde02:07
Tm_Toh well...02:07
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=== Tm_T also feels kinda WTF here
robotgeekwow02:09
Tm_Tsomehow I feel "push the cancel before it really start removing"02:10
Tm_Tyup02:10
Tm_Tcounts and counts and counts files02:10
Tm_TI think I use bash... feels more safe02:12
Tm_Toh no...02:20
Tm_T2G freed and I didn't even really start :o02:20
Tm_Tuff 5G sources'n'stuff removed02:24
Hobbseerobotgeek: i'm not sure which plugins you need02:24
robotgeekHobbsee: hmm, okay. but the ones there won't work, right?02:25
Hobbseei'm probably not the right person to ask - my system plays oggs, mp3's and wav files with just amarok and amarok-xine, which come as a part of kubuntu desktop02:26
Hobbseefrom whta i hear, it shouldnt02:26
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robotgeekanyways , thanks Hobbsee02:32
Hobbseeno problems02:32
Hobbseeunless it checked that i was in AU, then automatically installed the codecs, which is possible02:33
robotgeekreally?02:34
Hobbseegot no idea02:34
robotgeekheh02:34
robotgeekanyways, gotta go now02:34
robotgeeklater02:35
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Hobbseebut my system isnt normal, it seems02:35
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jpatrickhi Hobbsee 11:32
Hobbseehi jpatrick :)11:32
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Tonio_hello11:51
jpatrickhey Tonio_ 11:52
Tonio_jpatrick: fine ?11:52
jpatrickyes, you?11:52
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Hobbseehi Tonio_ 12:11
Tonio_jpatrick: fine, internet is back at home :)12:12
Tonio_Hobbsee: hello ;)12:12
jpatrickat last12:12
freeflyinghttp://static.flickr.com/36/104089906_aa454bd6fb_m.jpg12:14
Hobbseeoh eww freeflying!12:16
freeflying:)12:16
freeflyingMy amarok still can nor play mp3 file12:17
jpatrickmine can12:18
Hobbseejpatrick: so i'm not alone!12:18
freeflyingwhich engine ?12:18
jpatrickxine and gst12:18
freeflyingpoor me 12:19
freeflyingI cn not find package amarok-gst 12:20
jpatrickit was removed12:20
freeflyingthen how can I use get ?12:21
Lathiathrm why was it removed?12:21
Lathiatto get rid of gst0.8 in kubuntu?12:21
jpatricknew gst0.10 does not work with amaroK12:21
freeflyingseems gst will not too12:22
Lathiatgst will if you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed12:22
Lathiatthat said amarok-gstreamer seems non existant now even in universe12:22
Lathiatwhich is a bit odd12:22
jpatrickLathiat: I told you it was removed12:23
Lathiat"even in universe ... which is a bit odd"12:23
freeflyingI'e gstreamer0.8-mad installed , but I can not play mp3 file with amarok, although I have amarok-xine and w32codecs installed12:25
Tonio_freeflying: dapper ,12:26
Lathiatof course12:26
Tonio_,12:26
Tonio_?12:26
Lathiatgstreamer09.8-mad woudl only work with amarok-gstreamer12:26
Tonio_there is a new package to install12:26
freeflyingTonio_: dapper 12:26
Tonio_libmad0 doesn't work12:26
Tonio_freeflying: install libxine-extracodecs12:26
Lathiati thought xine picked up on libmad0 if it was installed12:26
Lathiati guess noit12:26
Tonio_something like that12:26
Tonio_this package contains a libmad0 lib and a few others12:26
Tonio_works perfectly12:27
Tonio_but we will have lots of wikipages to update ;)12:27
Lathiatwhat package?12:27
Lathiata custom xine package?12:27
Lathiatthe problem is the default installed xine cant depend on mad for licensing reasons12:27
Tonio_Lathiat: libxine-extracodecs12:28
Tonio_contains libmad0, a few others and works perfectly12:28
Tonio_it is in universe12:28
Tonio_multiverse, sorry12:28
freeflyingI wonder why can't I use gst play mp3 file with amarok ?12:29
Lathiatahh, cool.12:29
Lathiatfreeflying: becaus eyou are using the xine amarok backend!12:30
Tonio_Lathiat: xine is the default for dapper12:30
freeflyingLathiat: actually , I can not select the engine of amarok to gst12:30
Tm_Tyup12:30
LathiatTonio_: yes, i know12:30
=== Tm_T uses gst 0.10 in amaroK atm
Tonio_gstreamer has been removed because it doesn't work very nicely for the moment12:31
Tonio_well, all we have to know is to install libxine-extracodecs12:31
Tonio_the problem is not any wikipage has that, so we will have lots of question when dapper is out12:31
Lathiatright12:31
Tonio_we have to update the docs before12:31
Lathiatplease feel free to fix that :)12:31
freeflyingTonio_: it means that we can not use gst under dapper ?12:31
Lathiatfreeflying: bit wutg anarij12:32
Tonio_freeflying: you can of course, but it is not by default12:32
Lathiatbit wutg anarij12:32
Lathiatbah12:32
Tm_TTonio_: you mean gst 0.8 doesn't work in some cases...12:32
Lathiatstupid keyboar12:32
Tm_TTonio_: here it just works ;(12:32
Tm_Tgst 0.10 is nice too12:32
Tonio_Tm_T: I'm saying there are lots of files that just don't work with gstreamer;;;;;;;;;;12:32
freeflyingTm_T: how can you guys make it work ?12:32
Tonio_although there is no pb with sound files most of the time12:32
Tm_Tfreeflying: I compile my amaroK from svn12:33
Tonio_there is another problem with amarok12:33
Tonio_impossibloe to have it localized12:33
Tonio_only english12:33
Tm_T?12:33
Tonio_can someone confirm this ,12:33
Tonio_?12:33
=== Tm_T use amaroK in cymraeg
Lathiatwhats yoru $LANG?12:34
Tonio_Lathiat: FR12:34
Tonio_fr_FR.UTF-812:34
Tonio_that's it12:34
freeflyingTonio_: 1.3.8?12:35
Tonio_freeflying: yes12:36
freeflyingTonio_: confirm12:36
Tonio_freeflying: okay, we have to post a launchpad bug on this12:36
Tonio_freeflying: confirm for FR or all localizations ,12:37
Tonio_,12:37
Tonio_aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh?12:37
Tonio_shift doesn't work on my keyboard............12:37
LathiatTonio_: sorry I can't read small letters can you type it in caps for me? ;p12:38
Tonio_Lathiat: OK12:38
Tonio_SOUNDS COMPLICATED :)12:38
Lathiatwhat do you mean it doesnt work :)12:38
freeflyingTonio_: I use zh_CN12:38
Tonio_freeflying: OK12:38
freeflyingTonio_: you or I 12:38
Tonio_Lathiat: I JUST MEAN THAT AMAROK STAYS IN ENGLISH AND THAT'S IT12:39
freeflyinghow to play mp3 on kubuntu-ppc with amarok ?12:39
Lathiatfreeflying: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?12:40
freeflyingLathiat: seems no libxine-extracodecs for ppc12:41
Tonio_freeflying: that's a problem indeed.........;12:41
freeflyingthen I'd use realplayer for mp3 12:42
Lathiatfreeflying: then file a bug12:42
freeflyingLathiat: amarok-1.4 is not in dapper now12:42
freeflyingTonio_: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/3292812:50
jpatrickhmm...12:54
jpatrickmaybe it's not been translated?12:54
Lathiathttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/zh12:56
Lathiatindeed12:56
Lathiathttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/zh_CN looks a little better but still very small12:56
Lathiatfreeflying: start translating? :)12:56
jpatrickLathiat: 'roK's not on that list so it will be difficult12:57
Lathiatyeh hwo do you fix that?12:57
jpatrickcan't until it's been pulled in12:57
jpatrickand I think that's after dapper's released12:59
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nlindbladanyone using mutt and gmail?01:08
freeflyingnlindblad: I've used01:08
nlindbladset sendmail="/usr/bin/nbsmtp -d smtp.gmail.com -h smtp.gmail.com -f nlindblad@se.linux.org -p 465 -U niklas.lindblad -P mypassword -M p -S"01:09
nlindbladI'm using that in my .muttrc, I'm trying to send mails using  the gmail smtp server01:09
nlindbladbut I think the auth is messed or something, it just says "sending message..." then doing nothing01:09
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nlindbladany clues freeflying?01:10
jpatrickhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-February/005858.html <- I had no idea01:10
nlindbladpornview_0.2pre1-5build1.dsc?01:11
freeflyingnlindblad: nothing can tell, hehe01:12
nlindblad:(01:13
jpatrickwow, it's raining01:16
nlindbladaynone with GPG I can try my setup with?02:02
jpatrickwhat?02:20
jpatrickuse KGPG02:20
nlindbladI need to try it out02:35
nlindbladcould someone add me to  their keychain (0xDE0BA1F1) and mail nlindblad@se.linux.org02:37
jpatrickdid you upload to keyserver?02:40
nlindbladyeah02:42
nlindbladgot it working when recieving a mail encrypted to match my key02:43
nlindbladnot sure how to send an encrypted though02:43
nlindbladjpatrick: mind if I try sending an encrypted mail to you?02:45
jpatricknlindblad: you have to encrypt with my key02:45
nlindbladI know02:46
nlindbladI'll import you to my chain02:46
jpatrick 9500B1A202:47
nlindbladwhat keyserver?02:47
jpatrickkeyserver.ubuntu.com02:47
nlindbladcan I add mine to that server aswell?02:48
jpatrickyes02:48
nlindbladsent it02:51
nlindbladencrypted here atleast02:52
jpatrickEncrypted message (decryption not possible)02:52
jpatrickReason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data.02:53
jpatrickError: Bad passphrase02:53
jpatrickright...02:53
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nlindbladjpatrick: weird03:00
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tencowas kaffeine-gstreamer dropped in favour of kaffeine-xine?03:06
jpatrickthink so03:07
jpatrickbecsause of gst0.1003:08
tencoso its only part of the transition to gst0.10?03:09
jpatricki don't think kaffeine supports it03:10
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nlindbladyakuake is wonderful03:11
tencojpatrick: so dapper will use the xine backend?03:12
jpatrickyes03:12
tencogood. :-)03:13
jpatricknlindblad: I think there's something wrong with your key03:13
nlindbladjpatrick: I can receive encrypted mails03:14
tencobye03:14
jpatricknlindblad: i can't get kmail to accept it03:15
nlindbladweird03:15
jpatricknow it does03:16
nlindbladcan you read it?03:16
jpatricki've sent a message03:18
nlindbladokey03:18
nlindbladworks03:18
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jpatrickhey robotgeek_away 04:58
robotgeekhey jpatrick, damn nick wasn't quitting :)04:59
robotgeeki put dapper on a external usb yesterday, was fun!05:00
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nlindbladthis sucks06:03
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kmonHi06:11
jpatricknlindblad: what?06:11
nlindblada malfunctioning program created a billion files in ~06:12
jpatrickwoah06:12
robotgeeklol06:12
nlindbladgot it now06:13
nlindbladbut it was a little scary06:13
kmonThe system:/ slave give's more headaches than benefits. I can't compress a folder from konqueror if the url is using the system:/ slave. Is this a known bug?06:13
jpatrickyes06:14
kmonok06:16
kmonthanxs for the info06:16
jpatrickfile more bugs (if you can on my pkgs)06:17
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kmonNearly every bug I've filed has already been fixed :)06:18
kmonat least the ones related to kde06:18
kmonDoes the knetwork-manager front end riddell did on the last distro sprint work with current dapper nm package?06:19
jpatrickdunno06:20
kmonI gess the number 1 priority is finishing off the kde live installer so we can have kubuntu in ship-it06:21
kmondoes kate has tabs?06:26
jpatricksort of06:30
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LeeJunFanLooks like display properties can't change resolution in kde any more eh?06:48
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jpatrickLeeJunFan: what?07:45
LeeJunFanwhen you right click on desktop there was a place to change display resolutions, it's not there any more, neither is dpms settings.07:46
LeeJunFanin configure desktop07:46
jpatrick:|07:46
Tonio_re08:03
Tonio_need to find a way to make gtk_qt_engine configured out of the box08:04
jpatrickanyone know where gnome stores it's icons?08:05
ubijtsajpatrick: /usr/share/pixmaps08:06
ubijtsaiirc08:06
jpatrickprefect08:06
jpatrickhunger: are you still affected by #31923 ?08:24
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Tonio_re09:36
jpatrickf/d Tonio_ 09:46
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tonio_hi again11:44
tonio_Riddell: working on kubuntu-default-settings (1:6.04-9)11:44
tonio_first entry in the changelog is for kate sessions11:45
tonio_first file opens a new blank session and other files open in the same window11:45
tonio_I think that's the way people want it to work11:45
Luretonio_: I can only agree11:49

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