[12:03] <Mrono> yep*
[12:03] <NRG88> and konsole for example is a terminal emulator?
[12:03] <Mrono> yeah
[12:04] <NRG88> good :) know it's clear for me
[12:04] <Mrono> look up yukuake
[12:04] <NRG88> i'm only a beginner in linux
[12:04] <NRG88> whell i used suse 8.1 for a day, 9.3 for 2 or 3 days a year ago, but that was a dessaster for me :)
[12:05] <NRG88> kubuntu is fine, haven't met any "conflicts" with packages yet
[12:05] <NRG88> and the dependencies are well resolved
[12:08] <Mrono> hmm
[12:10] <McScruff> hi, can someone help me set up my sound so i can listen to java sound and amarok at the same time pls
[12:12] <Chani> McScruff: you mean java in konq?
[12:12] <McScruff> naa, i mean 2 things in general
[12:12] <Chani> er, artsd should be doing it for you./
[12:12] <McScruff> like flash and mp3's at the same time
[12:13] <Chani> I know that for flash you have to manually change a setting in konq, but most kde styuff should just work
[12:13] <McScruff> im playing poker and got that noise in a java window, (firefox) but its hogging all the sound so i cant play anything in amarok
[12:13] <Chani> firefox... I don't know
[12:13] <McScruff> is there an alternative to arts
[12:13] <Chani> you can try running artsdsp firefox
[12:14] <Chani> that sometimes tricks programs into not hogging the card
[12:14] <Chani> there is esd for gnome, but it's up to the individual programs top support sound daemons instaed of trying to take over the card
[12:15] <Chani> actually I'm here 'cause I'm wondering how to sanely manage two sound cards
[12:15] <Chani> I have onboard sound and I just got a new sound card
[12:15] <crimsun> Chani: are you using Breezy or Dapper?
[12:16] <Chani> breezy
[12:16] <crimsun> Chani: then you need to use the cli tool called set-default-soundcard
[12:17] <crimsun> Chani: alternately, if you know you always want to use the new sound card as the default, you can force a certain ordering
[12:17] <Chani> I don't even know if it loaded the right module for the new card, or how to test it
[12:17] <crimsun> Chani: well, what new card did you get?
[12:17] <Chani> I'll probably go back to gentoo and work on it there, though
[12:17] <Mrono> hmm
[12:17] <Mrono> stupid video
[12:18] <Mrono> anyone here set up mplayer and get ti to work correctly
[12:18] <Mrono> mines not working right
[12:19] <crimsun> mine works fine, but I'm using Dapper
[12:19] <Chani> 0000:02:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[12:19] <Chani> oh, I meant to test mplayer at some point
[12:19] <crimsun> Chani: yes, that will work fine. The driver is snd-cmipci, and Kubuntu handles loading the driver for you via udev+hotplug.
[12:20] <Chani> mmkay, I see that module
[12:20] <Mrono> it doesn't like all my videos
[12:21] <Mrono> i've got all the codecs
[12:21] <coolio10> how do you use wine?
[12:21] <crimsun> Chani: now, do you prefer your onboard or the new cmipci?
[12:21] <Mrono> look it up
[12:21] <_b> wine win32app.exe
[12:21] <coolio10> i tried open with then type wine but it doesnt load up right
[12:21] <Mrono> then wine doesn't support it
[12:22] <Chani> crimsun: dunno yet. but I managed to get alsamixer to open the new one
[12:22] <crimsun> Chani: sure, just pass it the correct card index, which is in the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[12:23] <opizi> can i install rpm on kubuntu ?!
[12:23] <Mrono> damn windows server 2000
[12:24] <crimsun> opizi: not directly, no. You can use alien to convert the rpm to a deb, then install that, but it's far preferable to use native Kubuntu packages
[12:27] <Chani> crimsun: um, yes, that's what I did
[12:28] <Chani> but I can't get it to produce any sound... tried cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp1
[12:29] <Mrono> wee
[12:29] <Mrono> mirc works
[12:29] <Mrono> yay
[12:29] <Mrono> lol
[12:29] <Chani> I'll go back to gentoo and fiddle there.
[12:29] <Mrono> huzzah
[12:30] <crimsun> Chani: pastebin the output from amixer -c1
[12:30] <crimsun> Chani: (presuming that the cmipci is card 1)
[12:30] <opizi> i need good source list
[12:30] <opizi> ?
[12:30] <crimsun> !tell opizi about repos
[12:30] <opizi> did anybody have one ?>
[12:33] <Chani> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/572507
[12:34] <_hupp3l> hey
[12:34] <_hupp3l> how can I delete a whole folder and the things in it?
[12:34] <tid-wave> rm -rf /path/to/folder
[12:34] <crimsun> Chani: you need to mute anything related to IEC958
[12:34] <Chani> why?
[12:35] <crimsun> Chani: you may also need to unmute 'Exchange DAC'
[12:35] <_hupp3l> thank you
[12:35] <Mrono> ah much better
[12:35] <crimsun> Chani: because unless you're using the digital/optical out, they should all be muted
[12:35] <Mrono> running mirc
[12:36] <Chani> crimsun: no luck
[12:37] <crimsun> Chani: what did you change?
[12:39] <Chani> crimsun: muted that stuff and tried toggling the exchange one
[12:39] <Chani> and unmuted just about everything else
[12:39] <crimsun> Chani: make only one set of changes each time, and test
[12:40] <crimsun> Chani: how are you testing?
[12:40] <Chani> cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp1
[12:40] <crimsun> Chani: no, use aplay
[12:41] <Chani> how do I make aplay use card 1? -c seems to do something else
[12:41] <crimsun> Chani: -Dplughw:1
[12:41] <Chani> maybe -D
[12:41] <Chani> ah
[12:42] <Chani> where'd you get the plughw: part?
[12:42] <bill> hi
[12:42] <crimsun> Chani: we always test with plugfoo first
[12:45] <Chani> no luck...
[12:46] <crimsun> Chani: please use speaker-test, then
[12:46] <epoizot> is it possible to restore data from a RAID0 partition
[12:47] <Mrono> hey
[12:47] <Mrono> how do I get commands to run at login
[12:48] <tid-wave> Mrono: put them in autorun ?
[12:50] <Mrono> hiw?
[12:50] <Mrono> how*
[12:52] <tid-wave> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Autostart_Programs#KDE
[12:52] <_silje> hi everyone, ive got this problem, I cant get neither my ali unknown device 5263 or my wierd wan card to work I have a Packard Bell Easynote
[12:54] <_silje> Have anyone had a smiular problem?
[12:56] <_silje> anyone?
[12:57] <_silje> I realt need help here
[12:57] <_silje> pleas anyone: (a)
[12:57] <luisito> what?
[12:57] <Chani> aha!
[12:57] <Mrono> he's having driver issues
[12:57] <coolio10> how do you use alien to convert rpm to deb (its installed already but dont know how to use it)
[12:57] <Chani> crimsun: it was plughw:1,1
[12:58] <Mrono> !tell coolioro about alien
[12:58] <luisito> _silje: talk
[12:58] <_silje> what
 hi everyone, ive got this problem, I cant get neither my ali unknown device 5263 or my wierd wan card to work I have a Packard Bell Easynote
[12:59] <Mrono> that's his issue
[12:59] <_b> u could try google your laptop name and and the problem se if something comes up
[12:59] <luisito> _silje: where you need help?
[12:59] <_silje> ive tried a millions of times
[12:59] <Mrono> so do I
[12:59] <crimsun> Chani: there.
[12:59] <_silje> Ive googled it for weeks
[12:59] <Mrono> but the person who is going to help me reompile my kernal isn't here
[12:59] <Mrono> so i'm stuck
[12:59] <_silje> ok
[12:59] <Chani> crimsun: aplay still won't work, but oh well
[01:00] <_silje> but anyone
[01:00] <Mrono> well
[01:00] <crimsun> Chani: plughw:1,1 doesn't work?
[01:00] <Mrono> time to put linux on my server
[01:00] <Chani> crimsun: not for aplay. only speaker-test
[01:00] <_silje> is there a good howto on ndiswrapper for my pc?
[01:00] <Mrono> !ndiswrapper
[01:00] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:00] <crimsun> Chani: if it works for speaker-test, it has to work for aplay...
[01:00] <_silje> ok
[01:01] <_silje> and ndiswrapper does not support eth0
[01:01] <Chani> crimsun: wait...
[01:01] <_silje> I mean "wierd" net
[01:01] <Chani> crimsun: trying to play /dev/random does nothing
[01:01] <Mrono> well i'm yet to see a wired card that isn't supported
[01:01] <Mrono> lol
[01:01] <crimsun> Chani: um, the syntax is aplay some.wav
[01:02] <_b> !porn
[01:02] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _b
[01:02] <_silje> anyone? Doesnt ndiswrapper support wierd ethernet?
[01:02] <Chani> I was hoping it could just treat /dev/random as a wav file
[01:02] <crimsun> I don't know what wav files you have by default, but since I installed kubuntu-desktop over Ubuntu, I have /usr/share/sounds/
[01:03] <crimsun>  /dev/random is a bad thing to drain. Use /dev/urandom instead for those purposes.
[01:03] <crimsun> and no, you cannot "treat /dev/random as a wav file"
[01:03] <Mrono> someone remind me why I don't need anti spyware
[01:03] <Mrono> or a firewall
[01:03] <_silje> The url ubotu gave me = This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists.
[01:03] <Mrono> or antivirus
[01:04] <Chani> crimsun: oooh! I tracked down a wav file and it worked :D
[01:04] <Chani> crimsun: thanks
[01:04] <crimsun> np
[01:04] <coolio10> anyone help with alien
[01:05] <Chani> I'm gonna sing the doom song now! :D
[01:05] <Snake__> doomdoomdooom
[01:05] <Snake__> gir....
[01:05] <Snake__> dooom dooom
[01:05] <Mrono> it's pretty easy
[01:05] <natex> Mrono: you don't need: antispyware - cause it's opensource, antivirus - cause there aren't any, you should use a firewall but it's not imperative if you hav no services running,
[01:06] <Snake__> natex: there are viruses...
[01:06] <Snake__> <10
[01:06] <Snake__> lol
[01:06] <natex> any that work?
[01:07] <Snake__> I think < 3 that work
[01:07] <natex> e.g. know of any that have caused anyone grief? documented?
[01:07] <Snake__> Hmmmmmm I doubt it
[01:09] <Mrono> wow
[01:09] <Mrono> there really are windows zelots
[01:09] <Snake__> Well I still love the motto "To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it"
[01:10] <Mrono> that is so true
[01:10] <Mrono> I have a duek boot on here
[01:10] <Mrono> since i'm learning linux I wanted something to fall back on
[01:10] <Snake__> heh
[01:10] <Mrono> < linux user for 5 days
[01:11] <Mrono> and
[01:11] <Chani> huh. krec doesn't seem to be installed
[01:11] <Mrono> last night I loaded up windows to configure it
[01:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> Mrono: I dual boot too, but my networking doesn't work in Windows, so I've been using Linux mostly. ;)
[01:11] <Mrono> sonce I have a laptop i have to install drivers to get all my nifty things working
[01:11] <Mrono> my networking doesn't work in linux very well
[01:11] <Mrono> wifi doesn't
[01:11] <Mrono> my cat5 connection does
[01:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> ndiswrapper
[01:11] <Mrono> heh
[01:12] <Mrono> i'm not that good
[01:12] <Snake__> ^seconded
[01:12] <Snake__> ndis is easy
[01:12] <Mrono> so
[01:12] <Chani> Snake__: sadly that is *not* true all the time. my bf can crash linux just by looking at it
[01:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[01:12] <Snake__> theres plenty of manuals
[01:12] <Mrono> don't interupt my story
[01:12] <Snake__> Chani: There is no patch for human stupidity
[01:12] <Mrono> I loaded up winfows to install the toshiba programs and drivers
[01:12] <Chani> Snake__: it's not stupidity.. just an uncanny talent for breaking anything electronic
[01:12] <Mrono> and explorer.exe prompt;y crashed
[01:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> How fun. ;)
[01:13] <Mrono> yep
[01:13] <Snake__> Chani: Ah, :) Well I have that effect too, but its is difficult to break a linux box without sudoing commands.....
[01:13] <Chani> his comp barely runs kubuntu right now. he's lucky if he can get windoze to boot at all without crashing. knoppix crashed quite ften too
[01:13] <Mrono> so when I started it up again
[01:13] <Mrono> the cd/dvd drve wouldn't work
[01:13] <Mrono> so I rebooted and it worked
[01:13] <Snake__> Chani: obviouslt if you sudo- rm -r / your gonna break it :)
[01:13] <Chani> hehe :)
[01:13] <Mrono> llol
[01:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> haha
[01:14] <Chani> yah. I didn't even give sudo permission to the main account at his house when I installed kubuntu
[01:14] <Snake__> I thought about doing that one day just for fun
[01:14] <Snake__> would it let me?
[01:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, don't leave sudo -rm -r / typed into a terminal. ;)
[01:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Someone might hit enter... :o
[01:14] <Snake__> LOL
[01:14] <Snake__> CheeseBurgerMan: Think it would allow me to do that?
[01:14] <Chani> I had a dream where I was going around doing  rm -rf / on all of my computers
[01:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Snake__: I'm not about to try it.
[01:15] <Snake__> Hmm
[01:15] <Snake__> I will.
[01:15] <Snake__> Im gonna try it
[01:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> Chani: you need to get out more. ;)
[01:15] <Snake__> Social experiment time
[01:15] <Chani> CheeseBurgerMan: that was several years ago. I do, now :)
[01:15] <Snake__> Do you guys want feedback on what happens??
[01:15] <Chani> but now I have no time for my own stuff :(
[01:15] <Hobbsee> yeah, why not hehe?
[01:15] <Snake__> Hobbsee: ya want feedback??
[01:16] <Snake__> hehe
[01:16] <Chani> anyways, I need to reboot!
[01:16] <Hobbsee> seeing as i've never tried it, why not?
[01:16] <Snake__> Alright
[01:17] <Snake__> Im gonna need the metal for this
[01:17] <Snake__> :)
[01:17] <robotgeek> can anyone tell me how Amarok handles ipods?
[01:17] <Mrono> horribily
[01:18] <Mrono> acually I don't know
[01:18] <Mrono> since I don't own a peice of crap
[01:18] <Mrono> I usually flush those
[01:18] <Mrono> but I might be able to help you
[01:18] <Mrono> wadda ya need
[01:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Looks like he needs to know how Amarok handles iPods.
[01:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[01:19] <robotgeek> Mrono: acutally, i am writing documentation for it, and i don't own an ipod. lol
[01:19] <Mrono> great, now I feel stupid
[01:19] <Mrono> good job
[01:19] <Mrono> lol
[01:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P
[01:19] <Mrono> usually there'
[01:19] <Mrono> s something else they need thoughj
[01:19] <robotgeek> Mrono: does clicking on media device work?
[01:20] <Mrono> i'm in the same boat as you man, don't have one
[01:20] <Mrono> why are you writing documentation for something you don't have
[01:20] <robotgeek> Mrono: okay, i am going to assume that it works that way, cause Amarok's handbook says so
[01:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[01:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> Good rule - if you don't know, go by the manual. ;)
[01:21] <robotgeek> Mrono: cause it's easier to take stuff out, than put it in :)
[01:21] <Hobbsee> nah, it's not RTFM - it's ITFM - ignore the friendly manual :P
[01:21] <_silje> http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm  -  witch of those drivers should i use, and will them work on my rt2500 card on kubuntu?
[01:22] <Mrono> heh
[01:22] <robotgeek> _silje: your ralink card should work out of the box
[01:22] <Snake__> QUICK MATH PROBLEM!!!! What is 20% of 12 Gigs?
[01:22] <_silje> robotgeek: but now it doesnt
[01:22] <_silje> robotgeek: will these drivers work or not?
[01:22] <Mrono> uhhh....
[01:22] <Mrono> crud
[01:22] <Mrono> durrrr
[01:23] <Mrono> lol
[01:23] <robotgeek> _silje: there's a nice guide on the wiki, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[01:23] <coolio10> im trying to instal limewire rpm with alien and i do sudo alien LimeWireLinux.rpm but it doesnt find the file on my desktop
[01:24] <coolio10> how do i get it to use directory desktop
[01:24] <_silje> robotgeek: that page is empty
[01:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> 2,457.6MB, Snake__. :P
[01:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, I know. Not quick...
[01:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> ;)
[01:25] <_silje> robotgeek: it is no guide there that is helpfull
[01:25] <Snake__> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks man :)
[01:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP
[01:25] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500 _silje
[01:25] <Snake__> CheeseBurgerMan: im install kubuntu now... I cant wait to do this
[01:25] <Snake__> :)
[01:25] <_silje> robotgeek: but maybe im in luck today, and your into networking, and maybe you might help me
[01:26] <robotgeek> _silje: sure, read the wiki article, and tell me if it doesn't work for you.
[01:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Snake__: Go for it! :D
[01:27] <Snake__> CheeseBurgerMan: you can do it after me! It will be like one of those pact suicides!
[01:27] <Snake__> lol
[01:27] <_silje> robotgeek: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) now supports the RT2500 Out of the box. You should be able to plug in the card, go to menu System->Administration->Networking. "System->Administration->Networking" does not exist in kubuntu, because that guide is for gnome, not for kde
[01:27] <Snake__> _silje: did you look in kcontrol?
[01:28] <Mrono> !autostart
[01:28] <ubotu> Mrono: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:28] <Mrono> hmm
[01:28] <Mrono> how do I autostartstuff
[01:28] <Snake__> Mrono: whatcah mean
[01:28] <Mrono> stuff that starts when I log in
[01:28] <_silje> Snake__: yes
[01:28] <robotgeek> _silje: you can try kwifimanager then
[01:28] <_silje> ok
[01:29] <Mrono> like I want the program kopete and the command powermated to run when I log in
[01:29] <Snake__> Mrono: when you log out have the programs runnin
[01:29] <Snake__> then it should autostart them back up
[01:29] <Dasnipa`> if you have it open when you logout it saves that config
[01:29] <Mrono> the commands don't run
[01:29] <Mrono> like powermated
[01:29] <Snake__> ah...dunno :(
[01:29] <Dasnipa`> youd probably have to script that?
[01:29] <Mrono> I run that from the 'run command'
[01:29] <Mrono> hmm
[01:30] <coolio10> anyone here have alien?
[01:30] <Mrono> Id o
[01:30] <Mrono> I do
[01:30] <Dasnipa`> if you wrote a shell script to start the program and run the commands then you could have it run the shell script on boot
[01:30] <Mrono> true
[01:30] <Mrono> but how do I do that
[01:30] <Mrono> !bootstart
[01:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono
[01:30] <Mrono> lol
[01:31] <robotgeek> _silje: the rest of the document does tell you how to set it up on cli too
[01:31] <Mrono> hey
[01:31] <Mrono> how do I resize a linux partition
[01:31] <Dasnipa`> i wonder if cron jobs can do that
[01:31] <_silje> robotgeek: I am a real newb, as you might have understood by now. Its a bit embarrasing, but what is cli?
[01:31] <Mrono> I have a 100gb HD
[01:32] <Dasnipa`> not the resize
[01:32] <robotgeek> !cli
[01:32] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[01:32] <Mrono> I want 5 for win
[01:32] <Mrono> and 20 for linux
[01:32] <Mrono> and the rest fat32
[01:32] <robotgeek> _silje: no issues, i'll try and help you out
[01:32] <Mrono> but i've already installed linux and windows
[01:32] <kakei> hi,does any body knows a simple way to start streaming (home radio) :)?
[01:32] <Mrono> hmmm
[01:32] <robotgeek> kakei: shoutcast
[01:32] <Mrono> let me think
[01:32] <Snake__> kakei: on linux?
[01:32] <Mrono> I saw this
[01:32] <Snake__> Shoutcast is simple as hell
[01:33] <Mrono> true
[01:33] <Mrono> it works on linux?
[01:33] <kakei> Snake__, yes on kubuntu
[01:33] <Snake__> kakei: shoutcast is great, but its kinda hard to find DJ software for linux
[01:33] <Snake__> Mrono: The server works on linux
[01:33] <reid> Hi, I was using Kubuntu when I decided to install Fedora Core 4. Fedora Core came up with an error. I restarted and the computer wouldnt boot. There was a flashing cursor on a black screen. I reinstalled Kubuntu and it worked. But, when I rebooted there was that flashing curser again. The install setup said it installed grub fine though.
[01:33] <reid> Whats wrong?
[01:33] <reid> Im a Linux newb.
[01:33] <reid> I have two HD.
[01:33] <reid> My original OS was Windows XP Home.
[01:33] <reid> My RAM is 512MB.
[01:33] <Mrono> gah
[01:33] <Mrono> flood
[01:33] <robotgeek> !paste
[01:33] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[01:33] <coolio10> mrono how do you use alien?
[01:33] <Mrono> uhh
[01:33] <Mrono> look it up
[01:33] <Mrono> I dont' remember
[01:33] <coolio10> i did it came up file not found
[01:33] <Snake__> But theres no DJ programs that I know of..
[01:34] <Mrono> did you install it right
[01:34] <Snake__> Im sure some exist..but I havn't seen any
[01:34] <Mrono> mines there
[01:34] <Mrono> wadda ya trying to do
[01:34] <Dasnipa`> coolio10, man alien
[01:34] <robotgeek> _silje: open up a konsole, K-Menu -> System -> Konsole
[01:35] <_silje> robotgeek: well, I had kubuntu for half an hour ago, but the first I did was removing hotplug and then tried to install it again, and that faild. I dont know why i did it, because it doesnt make any sense
[01:35] <_silje> robotgeek: but now im half past the installation
[01:36] <robotgeek> _silje: okay, i don't know if i'll be around, but if i am, i'll help you out
[01:36] <_silje> robotgeek: I see, thnaks
[01:37] <robotgeek> what is a good audio editing tool for kde?
[01:37] <louis_> robotgeek: audacity
[01:37] <robotgeek> louis_:
[01:37] <louis_> what?
[01:37] <robotgeek> i believe that is gtk
[01:37] <louis_> it runs in kde too
[01:38] <louis_> konversation just s*cks
[01:38] <louis_> use xchat :p
[01:38] <crimsun> I don't mind Konversation too much, but I hate how it, like X-Chat, groups the tabs
[01:38] <robotgeek> louis_: i know that gtk apps run in kde, i was wondering if there was a kde apps specifically
[01:38] <louis_> oh
[01:38] <louis_> dunno
[01:38] <louis_> crimsun: use mIRC then!
[01:38] <coolio10> im trying to install limewire rpm
[01:39] <crimsun> granted I'm a corner case, but I literally have to fall back to irssi because having to scroll horizontally through hundreds of tabs gets old FAST
[01:39] <_silje> But i got this second computer, that also runs on kubuntu, i got a problem on that one to:P How do i get a path for my mp3 player?
[01:39] <louis_> coolio10: please don't. use frostwire.
[01:39] <Snake__> crimsun: you know the Atl+Number hot key works in konversation right?
[01:39] <coolio10> i hate frostwire
[01:39] <louis_> well
[01:39] <louis_> apt-get install alien
[01:39] <robotgeek> _silje: most probably in /media
[01:39] <louis_> then install limewire
[01:39] <Mrono> I got my mirc back
[01:40] <Mrono> i'm so happy
[01:40] <coolio10> how?
[01:40] <robotgeek> apollon does gnutella fine
[01:40] <_silje> robotgeek: nope, its not there
[01:40] <coolio10> i have alien but dont kno how to use it
[01:40] <crimsun> Snake__: yes, but how does that work for window #216, for instance?
[01:40] <Snake__> crimsun: ...good point
[01:40] <louis_> coolio10: , alien -i rpmfile
[01:40] <crimsun> I have eighty-six open tabs in Konversation right now
[01:40] <brydenn> ok so I want to install Inkscape 0.43 and I added the repository it told me to but when i hit Install... under Action it says: BREAK (install)... is that bad?
[01:40] <Snake__> Holy crap
[01:40] <robotgeek> crimsun: :)
[01:40] <Snake__> crimsun: do you talk in all those places??
[01:41] <_silje> hmm
[01:41] <crimsun> Snake__: not all at once, no. I'm not quite that crazy.
[01:41] <_silje> im realy not sure
[01:41] <Snake__> Lol
[01:41] <_silje> can it be floppy0?
[01:41] <kakei> Snake__, another solution different from shoutcast?
[01:42] <Snake__> kakei: Whats wrong with shoutcast??
[01:42] <SirKillalot> can I create right-click-on-a-file scripts for konq like I can do in nautilus?
[01:42] <kakei> Snake__, dunno is not free
[01:42] <brydenn> Snake__: if i'm trying to install a program through Adept and it says: BREAK (install) after i hit the install button is that bad?
[01:42] <Snake__> kakei: shoutcast is very free
[01:42] <brydenn> yah shoutcast is nice
[01:42] <kakei> Snake__, brydenn where can i get it
[01:42] <Snake__> kakei: and its very very VERY easy to run and set up
[01:43] <_silje> anyoing that the mp3 device doesnt exists?
[01:43] <Snake__> kakei: shoutcast.com
[01:43] <Brydenn> lol yah shoutcast.com
[01:43] <Brydenn> snake... you got the answer to my question?
[01:43] <Snake__> Brydenn: naw :-/
[01:43] <Brydenn> lol
[01:43] <coolio10> it keeps saying file not found
[01:43] <Brydenn> dude it if says BREAK (install) after i hit the instal button in Adept... isnt that bad?
[01:43] <Brydenn> i'm afraid to install the crap
[01:44] <coolio10> it wont let you anyway
[01:44] <kakei> Brydenn, Snake__ theres no deb ?XD
[01:44] <Brydenn> coolio10: so you're saying it wont let me install if like that?
[01:44] <coolio10> yes
[01:44] <coolio10> it wil start then say wont continue cause commit will break other packages
[01:45] <Brydenn> hmmm alright... i guess i'm stuck with the stable version then ;)
[01:45] <Brydenn> i just wanted to get Inkscape 0.43
[01:45] <Brydenn> but all the stable version i guess is 0.42 in Adept
[01:45] <Snake__> kakei: you dont need one
[01:45] <Snake__> kakei: its just a script you run
[01:45] <Snake__> kakei: just CD into the dir you download, and run the script, no install needed
[01:46] <ghanthar> hi everybody
[01:46] <Snake__> Hello
[01:46] <coolio10> do the rpms that alien converts have to be in a specific folder cause the rpm is on the desktop and the command keeps saying file not found
[01:46] <Snake__> Welcome to our humble hell
[01:47] <ghanthar> is there any person who could get klamav with on access scan working? tried everything dazuko is installed and solved the issue with capability but no chance
[01:49] <Snake__> wb NRG88
[01:49] <Snake__> ...
[01:49] <Snake__> wb nalioth
[01:49] <kakei> Snake__, i downloaded it already how do i run it i untared it already too
[01:49] <Snake__> kakei: read the read me
[01:49] <orion_fr_24> !skype
[01:49] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[01:50] <nalioth> howdy
[01:50] <tristanmike> hey hey
[01:50] <Snake__> tristanmike: your not allowed in here at the same time
[01:51] <Snake__>  /kick tristanmike Go away!
[01:51] <Snake__> hehe
[01:51] <tristanmike> I see how it is...
[01:51] <Snake__> Yep.
[01:52] <kakei> Snake__, the server is up
[01:52] <kakei> how do i administrate it?
[01:53] <Snake__> kakei: alright, what do you mean by administer?
[01:53] <kakei> Snake__, put the music,talk.
[01:53] <Snake__> kakei: did you edit the config file?
[01:53] <Snake__> Ahh
[01:53] <kakei> yes
[01:53] <Snake__> kakei: You need to get DJ software for that
[01:53] <kakei> i guess it's Download the SHOUTcast DSP Plug-In for Mac OS X, Linux and FreeBSD
[01:53] <Snake__> kakei: which is the hard part...I dunno how well that works
[01:54] <Mrono> !ndiswrappers
[01:54] <ubotu> Mrono: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:54] <Mrono> er
[01:54] <Mrono> did I spell it wrong
[01:54] <Snake__> !+ndiswrapper
[01:54] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:54] <Mrono> ah
[01:56] <_silje> robotgeek: the guide do not work
[01:57] <robotgeek> _silje: not work doesn't help, please give me details :)
[01:57] <LiteHedded> linux-686-smp  gives me the smp kernel right?
[01:57] <_silje> robotgeek: in kwifi it cant find anything
[01:57] <_silje> no signal
[01:58] <_silje> no network, no accespoint, no local ip, no freques
[01:58] <nalioth> LiteHedded: yes
[01:58] <Mrono> well time to restart x
[01:58] <LiteHedded> nalioth will i have to redo the ati drivers?
[01:58] <robotgeek> _silje: please open up a konsole
[01:58] <nalioth> LiteHedded: unknown. i know not what you have now.
[01:58] <Mrono> brb
[01:58] <_silje> robotgeek: a terminal?
[01:58] <LiteHedded> i am running the regular kernel
[01:59] <LiteHedded> with ati drivers installed
[01:59] <robotgeek> _silje: yup
[01:59] <_silje> robotgeek: A konsole is up and running
[01:59] <robotgeek> _silje: lsmod | grep rt2500
[01:59] <_silje> robotgeek: gives me nothing
[02:00] <robotgeek> _silje: then "sudo modprobe rt2500"
[02:00] <LiteHedded> does anyone know?
[02:00] <_silje> robotgeek: done
[02:01] <robotgeek> _silje: it should show up now, i think. try the lsmod | grep rt2500 again to confirm that it has been loaded
[02:01] <_silje> robotgeek: its been loaded
[02:01] <_silje> robotgeek: but is in use by 0
[02:02] <robotgeek> _silje: iwconfig should show ra0
[02:02] <_silje> robotgeek: yes, it does
[02:02] <robotgeek> _silje: try kwifi manager now, it should work now
[02:02] <LiteHedded> anyone?
[02:03] <_silje> it now shows signal strenght,  but now network is found
[02:03] <robotgeek> _silje: connect away, i guess :)
[02:03] <tarmath> okay heres the newb question... ive got many partitions that are automatically mounted at boot and all I want is to be able to write to them without using sudo... how can I do something this simple?
[02:05] <_silje> robotgeek: now when i enable it, it disables after half a second
[02:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> ah yes, that's always fun.
[02:05] <robotgeek> !wifi
[02:05] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:06] <robotgeek> _silje: try that guide, with ra0 being your wireless card
[02:06] <_silje> ok
[02:06] <Mrono> hey guys
[02:06] <coolio10> how do you change directory (cd wont work)
[02:06] <_silje> robotgeek: but isnt it a kind of strange that my eth0 wont work?
[02:06] <Mrono> whats another way to configure my wifi card
[02:06] <Mrono> kwifi freezes
[02:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> Set your gateway and nameservers (assuming you have dhcp)
[02:06] <Mrono> !wifi
[02:06] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > Network Settings
[02:10] <NoSuchNick> Hi
[02:11] <Mrono> lets see
[02:11] <NoSuchNick> Is there an easy way to switch between the different gcc versions? (like gcc_select)
[02:11] <pcnerd37> Hello.  Im looking to put Linux on my grandparents old computer.  Its a pII 350MHz machine, would kubuntu be good for a machine that slow?
[02:11] <robotgeek> NoSuchNick: export gcc=/usr/bin/gcc-your-fave-version
[02:11] <Snake__> pcnerd37: Are you familer with linux?
[02:12] <NoSuchNick> robotgeek: thx!
[02:12] <coolio10> how do i change directry? cd command wont work
[02:12] <Snake__> pcnerd37: is your Linux Level high enough to do a server install, then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[02:12] <pcnerd37> fairly familiar, but by no means an expert
[02:12] <pcnerd37> yea, i could likely do that
[02:12] <Snake__> pcnerd37: because KDE would drag on that PC, but xfce would be a nice choice
[02:12] <coolio10> is server install basically kubuntu without x?
[02:13] <Snake__> coolio10: pretty much
[02:13] <Snake__> And most of KDE's programs arn't installed
[02:13] <coolio10> oh
[02:13] <Snake__> Then you install xubuntu-desktop, and it gives you all of Xfces desktop
[02:13] <pcnerd37> yea, i figured KDE would make it slow.  Its running Win98 right now
[02:13] <_silje> f*** my internet went out
[02:13] <Snake__> pcnerd37: ya, go with xubuntu ;)
[02:13] <_silje> robotgeek: Ive done as the guide says, and now i get best signal strenght in wifi, but when i trie to enable ra0 it wont
[02:14] <robotgeek> _silje: try it from command line
[02:14] <pcnerd37> ok, i will consider that.  I really like kubuntu, but i know other ones like Slackware are better on older comps
[02:14] <_silje> robotgeek: what from command line?
[02:14] <pcnerd37> The OS on there is corrupt really bad and i want something to replace it.  Its only real use is for dial up internet
[02:15] <robotgeek> _silje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:15] <Snake__> pcnerd37: Bah, just give them CLI :)
[02:15] <Snake__> :P
[02:15] <pcnerd37> How would i go about using the MSN internet dial up on Linux?
[02:16] <Snake__> Not sure...would MSN's software work on linux?
[02:16] <pcnerd37> i dont have a clue
[02:16] <Snake__> im not sure either
[02:17] <pcnerd37> thats how they connect to the internet, so before i switch them i need to know if it will work on it, and if it doesnt, what ISP has software that works on linux
[02:21] <tarmath> pcnerd37: you dont need isp software to connect on linux
[02:22] <Snake__> CheeseBurgerMan: Man...kubuntu takes forever to install
[02:22] <Snake__> lol
[02:22] <Snake__> CheeseBurgerMan: im djing, so thats not really a option :)
[02:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> then DJ away. :P
[02:22] <Snake__> buy it use it break it fix it
[02:22] <Snake__> lol
[02:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol,
[02:23] <Snake__> technologic
[02:23] <_silje> mother****
[02:23] <Hobbsee> Snake__: it's quicker than a lot of other distros
[02:23] <Hobbsee> besides, often you can use irssi while it's installing
[02:23] <_silje> it just wont work
[02:24] <Snake__> Hobbsee: really? I didnt know that..
[02:24] <Hobbsee> Snake__: yeah, once it's configured irssi, you can use it
[02:24] <Hobbsee> once it's configured the program, yeah
[02:24] <Snake__> Cool
[02:24] <Snake__> Hobbsee: I cant wait for the live installer
[02:24] <Snake__> thats gonna be tight
[02:24] <robotgeek> Snake__: w3m, links etc etc
[02:24] <Snake__> yea
[02:24] <_silje> some one knows how to enable ra0 from command line?
[02:24] <Snake__> cool
[02:25] <Snake__> _silje: sudo ifup ra0
[02:25] <Mrono> hmm
[02:27] <_silje> Snake__: this took quite a while
[02:27] <mluser-home> Could someone tell me what package contains the "network-admin" utility?
[02:27] <Snake__> lol
[02:28] <_silje> Snake__: got; No dhcpoffers
[02:29] <Hobbsee> _silje: sud dhclient ra0
[02:29] <_silje> starting dhcpdiscover
[02:30] <_silje> Snake__: No dhcpoffers
[02:31] <Snake__> _silje: not really sure man, you just asked how to enable it
[02:31] <Snake__> lol
[02:31] <_silje> Snake__: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[02:31] <_silje> Snake__: it doesnt seem like it enabled it
[02:31] <robotgeek> _silje: did you setup your essid and stuff
[02:34] <pcnerd37> if i dont need the isp's dialup software to connect with linux, how would i use dialup to connect in linux?
[02:36] <tristanmike> 3 am, wow
[02:37] <Mrono> lol
[02:37] <tristanmike> wait, which 3 am, yours? mine? GMT?
[02:39] <Mrono> woah'
[02:39] <Mrono>  [fre'hatake_kakashi TIME reply] : Sun Feb 26 11:39:02 2006
[02:39] <kakei> Mrono, wazap?
[02:40] <Mrono> nuthing
[02:40] <Mrono> board
[02:40] <Mrono> and putting off a party tghat starts in 10 mion
[02:40] <Mrono> keyboard tilt
[02:40] <Mrono> lol
[02:40] <Mrono> it's annoying
[02:40] <Mrono> noooo!
[02:41] <Mrono> heh
[02:44] <samoura> noteventime
[02:44] <samoura> msg/ noteventime
[02:44] <_silje> how do i setup essid
[02:44] <Mrono> lol
[02:46] <Mrono> gtg
[02:46] <Mrono> ttyou all later
[02:48] <_dominic> hi, i got a quick question
[02:48] <_dominic> I want to install the packages for ldap-based logins under kubuntu
[02:49] <_dominic> i installed 5.10/amd64 without checking first and i don't see libnss-ldap (or pam_ldap) in the repository
[02:49] <_dominic> are those packages available for the kubuntu distro somewhere?
[02:50] <pussfeller> how i get my correct busid for my nvidia if i moved it to a diff slot, i put 1:6:0 in xorg.conf but that dont work and thats shat lspci shows
[02:50] <pussfeller> _dominic: you might try apt-cache search ldap or some such
[02:51] <intenz> psotnic is the best it addes a bots on channal  at 166 nicks of bots :P cool?
[02:51] <intenz> psotnic is the best it addes a bots on channal  at 166 nicks of bots :P cool?
[02:51] <_dominic> oh, i think I just had a panic attack
[02:51] <_dominic> I forgot to add universe/multiverse first
[02:51] <_dominic> they're in there
[02:53] <intenz> check here this ROCKs xfierwall and more http://sat2k.com/download.htm
[02:58] <simoncifer> hello, I have a question about KDE
[02:58] <simoncifer> Has anyone used kasbar?
[02:58] <simoncifer> I noticed that when I go to "Hiding" tab in "Configure Panel", and select "Show left panel-hiding button", an arrow button would appear, but the icon on the other end would have the wrong size.
[02:58] <simoncifer> It seems the last icon has been truncated.
[02:59] <simoncifer> hello.......
[03:01] <_silje> I have installed my rt2500 wireless card
[03:01] <_silje> but cant find my dhcp
[03:01] <_silje> does anyone know what it could be?
[03:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Did you set your nameservers?
[03:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Fiddle with it over and over again?
[03:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:06] <intenz> hello why cant i play any video clips
[03:06] <intenz> i am trying to see trix a break
[03:06] <intenz> and i can t :S
[03:06] <intenz> shude i install something?
[03:07] <intenz> help me what shude i install to play video clips on online?
[03:16] <simoncifer> intenz: have you tried the "Unofficial User Guide for Ubuntu"
[03:16] <simoncifer> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[03:18] <sonic> Hi there, does anyone know where I can get libXft.so.1?
[03:19] <tigerkub> hi everyone
[03:22] <intenz> I AM NOT a ubont user i am kbuntu user
[03:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> lovely. But can you spell?
[03:23] <intenz> hmm no
[03:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> obviously. ;)
[03:23] <simoncifer> So, has anyone tried using kasbar?
[03:24] <intenz> yes i can i thin a b e c d e g  md right ?
[03:24] <intenz> or a b c d o k s j d
[03:24] <intenz> i cant remember nrd
[03:24] <intenz> nerd
[03:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
[03:25] <robotgeek> intenz: CheeseBurgerMan please don't spam :)
[03:25] <intenz> good for you copy and paste
[03:25] <tigerkub> mm
[03:25] <tigerkub> i want a chessburger
[03:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> robotgeek: Oops, sorry.
[03:26] <intenz> omg sick ness
[03:26] <intenz> noteventime are you here brotha?
[03:29] <intenz> robotgeek i have kubuntu linux and why cant i play video clips on online
[03:29] <robotgeek> intenz, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:31] <Brydenn> how do i change the color of the fonts on my desktop?
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > Appearence > Desktop > Advanced Options
[03:32] <CheeseBurgerMan> Appearance *
[03:34] <Brydenn> CheeseBurgerMan:  that path doesnt exist bro
[03:34] <Brydenn> i see Appearance and Themes
[03:34] <Brydenn> or just Desktop under Control Center
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, Appearance and themes
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> that's the right one.
[03:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> I abbreviated. ;)
[03:34] <Brydenn> hehe yah but there is no "desktop" under Appearance and Themes
[03:34] <Brydenn> :(
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oops, sorry
[03:36] <Brydenn> hehe its cool... so where to then?
[03:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > Appearance & Themes > Background > Advanced Options
[03:37] <Brydenn> sweet... thank you CheeseBurgerMan
[03:37] <Brydenn> i'm gonna make a screen dump of my desktop for ya :)
[03:37] <Brydenn> i've been making myself some eye-candy heh
[03:37] <Brydenn> brb
[03:42] <intenz> Totem could not play 'fd://0'.   There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugin
[03:42] <intenz> i cant play it
[03:42] <intenz> i downloaded all
[03:42] <intenz> that says on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:42] <robotgeek> intenz: mplayer + mozilla + w32codecs plugin plays everything!
[03:42] <robotgeek> except realplayer, and a few other things
[03:43] <robotgeek> intenz: try kaffeine-xine + w32codecs + konqueror too
[03:44] <intenz> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. okei great i cant install it
[03:45] <intenz> could not commit changes - adept
[03:45] <intenz> i cant install nothing in adept
[03:45] <intenz> so do i do it in console?
[03:46] <intenz> sudo install  kaffeine-xine ?
[03:52] <Zoder2> HEY ALL
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hello
[03:53] <Zoder2> i need some help with my ALSA becuase i dont get sound out of my rear left speaker... i have 5.1 and abuilt on 7.1 card ECS915p-a 1.2
[03:53] <Zoder2> can anyone help? :P
[03:55] <Zoder2> anyone?
[03:58] <Zoder2> hello?? lol
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Zoder2: I haven't a clue, hence my silence.
[03:59] <_silje> gaddamn
[03:59] <_silje> my rt2500 card is impossible to get working
[04:00] <_silje> are there any experts here?
[04:00] <_silje> i need help
[04:00] <_silje> its an emergency
[04:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> So...what have you done?
[04:01] <_silje> ive been forced to use wincrap for a year now, because the network card is so hard to install, but then a day i saw that kubuntu had the driver. Ive done all guides, lisend to all kind of people, but noen have worked?
[04:01] <blanky> has ubuntu's kde support gotten any better
[04:02] <robotgeek> _silje: unless you tell us what is not working, it's impossible to help
[04:02] <Zoder2> CheeseBurgerMan, do you know where i can get my kernel sources? so i can load ALSA a module
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Not a clue.
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm in here more to read what the people who know what they're talking about say, and learn from that. ;)
[04:03] <Zoder2> lol
[04:04] <Thedek> Same here. =)
[04:05] <Zoder2> CheeseBurgerMan,  hey u have ur orig. kernel rrunning?
[04:05] <intenz> CheeseBurgerMan how do i download w32codecs? i cant download nothing in adept There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. okei great i cant install it
[04:06] <brydenn> hey, whats the program thats in Ubuntu that's similar to TaskManager in windows?
[04:06] <brydenn> i need to see all the programs that are running
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> KSysGuard
[04:06] <brydenn> and kill them if i need to :)
[04:06] <brydenn> thanks
[04:11] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell intenz about w32codecs
[04:26] <cameron> there any way to play line in through speakers?
[04:26] <cameron> i want to hear what i input
[04:28] <cameron> is there anyway to play the line in through the speakers?
[04:28] <twit_army> I'm running the flight 4 version of kubuntu and I can't launch espresso....any tips? (as user it launches, but tells me it needs root access)
[04:29] <noteventime> !midi
[04:29] <ubotu> from memory, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[04:29] <cameron> if your click on it can you run as root?
[04:30] <twit_army> cameron: if you're talking to me, there's no icon on the desktop (I am running the livecd).  This is all through command line
[04:31] <twit_army> maybe an upgrade of the kubuntu-live package?  Worth a shot I guess
[04:31] <cameron> what if you type sudo <command>
[04:32] <twit_army> I did the sudo su then typed espresso....it does nothing
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> not sudo su
[04:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> that's a bit redundant. ;)
[04:33] <twit_army> yea, just tried it....works now
[04:33] <twit_army> thanks cameron and CheeseBurgerMan
[04:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> You use sudo su in Knoppix?
[04:34] <twit_army> yea...in version 4.02 it's worked before
[04:34] <twit_army> gives me root in konsole
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> ah
[04:35] <twit_army> lol
[04:35] <cameron> i am pretty new at this what is the difference between sudo and su
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Seems to me that sudo or su would work, not both
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> but w/e
[04:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo makes you root for the command
[04:35] <twit_army> not sure here cameron...I've just read before that to get root in knoppix to do sudo su...no idea on the diff.
[04:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> su makes you root for the session.
[04:36] <cameron> ahh
[04:37] <cameron> anyone use gentoo?
[04:37] <twit_army> I tried gentoo before...got tired of compiling everything lol
[04:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm not ready for Gentoo by any means. ;)
[04:37] <cameron> it didn't seem worth it
[04:38] <cameron> i kept having to install it when i broke it
[04:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:38] <twit_army> it can be a pain in the butt
[04:39] <cameron> sometimes a bit too much
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> I installed Ubuntu, then Kubuntu, and then went to VectorLinux, and then back to Kubuntu
[04:39] <cameron> kubuntu is easy
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> although I've only had Kubuntu installed more more than a day.
[04:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[04:40] <cameron> i would like it more if i had my sound setup correctly
[04:40] <__mikem> You know whats really fun to do... sudo rm -r ~ ... O wait, no, don't do that thats bad
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> I'm not THAT n00bish. ;)
[04:40] <__mikem> lol
[04:40] <cameron> remove some important files
[04:41] <cameron> real fun
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah, for the person beside you.
[04:41] <__mikem> some jerk actually told someone to do that in here
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> :o
[04:41] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[04:42] <__mikem> THe scary thing is, the guy almost did
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ouch
[04:42] <Psi-Jack> You shouldn't be really keeping files in your /root anyway. ;)
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> That'd suck.
[04:42] <__mikem> anyway
[04:44] <noteventime> !seq
[04:44] <ubotu> noteventime: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:44] <noteventime> !mid
[04:44] <ubotu> noteventime: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:44] <noteventime> !midi
[04:44] <ubotu> [midi]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[04:47] <twit_army> hey guys...I recently had flight 4 of ubuntu installed and wine was broken on it...any problems in kubuntu flight 4?
[04:48] <brydenn> how do i take a screenshot of my desktop?
[04:48] <brydenn> PRINT SCREEN doesnt seem to work hehe
[04:49] <brydenn> at least when i try to paste it into GIMP
[04:49] <twit_army> not sure brydenn...I guess try to find some software that will do it?  Never tried it myself
[04:50] <twit_army> and never mind on my question...time to reboot and I'll see for myself
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> brydenn: KSnapshot
[04:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> K Menu > Graphics
[04:53] <zblach> hi. how are accents done? o
[04:53] <zblach> i am having trouble setting them up
[04:58] <_tim> hey im really sorry but does anyone know how to get cinelerra on kubuntu?
[04:58] <_tim> iv been searching the net but cant find anything
[05:01] <_tim> please can anyone help?
[05:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Googleing*
[05:03] <_tim> lol wat does that mean sorry?
[05:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Using Google to search. ;)
[05:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Looks like you download the RPM, and use rpm -i --force --nodeps <package name>
[05:03] <_tim> lol ok
[05:03] <_tim> how?
[05:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> according to the download page.
[05:04] <_tim> i was trying to figure that out b4
[05:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> Open up Konsole and type it in.
[05:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> then press enter. :)
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> you'll have to use alien to convert it to .dpkg first.
[05:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh
[05:04] <_tim> wats alien?
[05:04] <LeeJunFan> !alien
[05:04] <ubotu> well, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[05:04] <_tim> ok
[05:04] <_tim> thanks
[05:04] <Psi-Jack> Oh got, DO NOT install an RPM as if you actually had an RPM database. :p
[05:05] <Psi-Jack> s/got/god
[05:05] <_tim> lol wat do u mean sorry?
[05:06] <Psi-Jack> LeeJunFan: You mean .deb, not .dpkg. :p
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> he means don't use rpm on a non rpm based system. convert it to your distro's native package type, ie - dpkg.
[05:06] <Psi-Jack> [22:04]  <CheeseBurgerMan> Looks like you download the RPM, and use rpm -i --force --nodeps <package name>
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> yeah,
[05:06] <LeeJunFan> sry.
[05:06] <Psi-Jack> ^-- BAD
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh, oops. :o
[05:07] <Psi-Jack> You know, I've been playing Hitman 2 lately. Maybe I should check any contracts out for you, CheeseBurgerMan. :}
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> _tim: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47617&page=2
[05:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=429143&postcount=20 post in particular.
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Well, I don't know enough to say it off the top of my head, so I Google. :P
[05:12] <Psi-Jack> LeeJunFan: Hehe. Who needs a glock? Nice good 9mm w/silencer does the trick. :)
[05:15] <Zoder2> hey all again i fixed my speaker problem now i just needa get my mic to work
[05:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> so...it's not working I assume. ;)
[05:16] <Zoder2> lol
[05:16] <Zoder2> nope
[05:16] <Zoder2> my sound works great
[05:16] <Zoder2> just my mic doesnt work at all
[05:16] <Zoder2> rofl
[05:17] <LeeJunFan> Zoder2: nobody want's to hear you anyway.
[05:17] <LeeJunFan> :p
[05:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:17] <qupada> i'm going to recommend you try the volume control
[05:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, I was going to suggest that you make sure it's plugged in.
[05:18] <Snake|OnAir> OKAY GUYS
[05:18] <Snake|OnAir> CheeseBurgerMan: IM DOIN IT
[05:18] <Snake|OnAir> Here we go.
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> yeah, and go to input section and make sure mic is selected (unmuted) and volume up, also might need to go to options section and turn on mic boost if you have it.
[05:18] <Snake|OnAir> The command of doom
[05:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Doing what?
[05:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh
[05:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> right
[05:18] <Snake|OnAir> :)
[05:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo rm -rf /
[05:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> sudo rm -rf / ?  [WARNING: don't do that!] 
[05:18] <qupada> damnit cheese, beaten to the punchline
[05:18] <Snake|OnAir> Yep.
[05:18] <LeeJunFan> CheeseBurgerMan: lol
[05:18] <__mikem> or sudo rm -r ~
[05:18] <Snake|OnAir> Here we go.
[05:19] <__mikem> we were talking about this earlier
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> Bye...nice knowing you. ;)
[05:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> qupada: :P
[05:19] <Snake|OnAir> Hmm cannot removie dir // boot...
[05:19] <Snake|OnAir> to many busy resoures
[05:19] <__mikem> ????????????????????
[05:19] <LeeJunFan> why the hell would you do that?
[05:19] <__mikem> don't tell me you tried it
[05:20] <Snake|OnAir> Yes I did
[05:20] <Snake|OnAir> its going now
[05:20] <Snake|OnAir> :)
[05:20] <__mikem> HIT CONTROL C NOW
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> just do mkswap /dev/hda [ that'll fsck things up good for ya] 
[05:20] <Snake|OnAir> __mikem: naaa
[05:20] <Snake|OnAir> :)
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> it's too late for ctrl-c by now anyway.
[05:20] <Snake|OnAir> Its done.
[05:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> Snake knows what he's doing....I think...hope..
[05:20] <Snake|OnAir> yes Ido
[05:21] <__mikem> you do realize that box WON'T boot again unless you do a reinstall
[05:21] <Snake|OnAir> Hahaha!!! the whole system is fsk!
[05:21] <Snake|OnAir> I cant even CD
[05:21] <CheeseBurgerMan> great..you ruined it.
[05:21] <Snake|OnAir> :)
[05:21] <Snake|OnAir> no more ls either
[05:21] <Snake|OnAir> my /bin is gone
[05:22] <__mikem> thanks
[05:22] <Zoder2> LeeJunFan, ur funny
[05:22] <Zoder2> CheeseBurgerMan, i do lol
[05:22] <Snake|OnAir> I need a screenshot of this
[05:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> NP, and you might want some ice for the swelling.
[05:22] <__mikem> Snake, just tell me, WHY, O FOR GOD SAKES WHY!?
[05:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Zoder2: So it's plugged in.
[05:23] <Snake|OnAir> __mikem: Why not?
[05:23] <__mikem> I just hoped you were backed up
[05:23] <Zoder2> CheeseBurgerMan, yes it is
[05:23] <LeeJunFan> makes it more secure.
[05:23] <Snake|OnAir> __mikem: nope
[05:23] <Snake|OnAir> hehe
[05:23] <__mikem> CheeseBurgerMan how drunk is he
[05:23] <Snake|OnAir> __mikem: its okay dude, it was a fresh install, I didnt screw up any thing
[05:23] <LeeJunFan> That sounds like such fun I think I'll go rm -rf / on my mailservers now.
[05:23] <Snake|OnAir> LOL
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> That it! on the count of three we'll all type rm -rm /!
[05:24] <LeeJunFan> __mikem: rm -rf / - do it. Join US!
[05:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> Don't unless you wanna lose your data BTW.
[05:24] <Snake|OnAir> Lol
[05:24] <Snake|OnAir> Its like flipping the red switch
[05:25] <__mikem> I took a snap shoot of an install I had on vm ware and tried it earlier
[05:25] <__mikem> the only thing that really happens is suddenly NOTHING WORKS
[05:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:25] <LeeJunFan> makes me feel like a scientologist.
[05:25] <Snake|OnAir> __mikem: pretty much
[05:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, that makes sense.
[05:26] <Snake|OnAir> this is depressing
[05:26] <jloden> hi guys, I've got a sound card that suddenly, randomly stopped playing sound today. It seems like something is muted someplace but I can't figure out what or where. Can someone give me a hand?
[05:26] <Snake|OnAir> no commands work any more :(
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> jloden: Open Kmix.
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> assuming you haven't already.
[05:26] <jloden> done
[05:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Is it muted?
[05:26] <__mikem> I was thinking, there is really no need for such a command, they should write a bit of code into the shell that will automaticly reject that command
[05:26] <jloden> nothing I can see in kmix is muted, no
[05:26] <Snake|OnAir> __mikem: thats what I thought too, thats why I wanted to test
[05:26] <LeeJunFan> you know the same thing could be accomplished by simply chrooting to an empty dir you dumbass! :)
[05:27] <Snake|OnAir> Or atleast have a prompt taht says "YOUR ABOUT TO KILL THIS PC!! Continue?"
[05:27] <__mikem> lmao
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> LeeJunFan: But that doesn't give the same feeling of violence (or something)
[05:27] <__mikem> hey jloden, its probably a missing package
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> jloden: I assume the volume isn't down either.
[05:27] <jloden> no, volume is up on everything
[05:27] <CheeseBurgerMan> uh, yeah, and what __mikem said.
[05:27] <LeeJunFan> Shock jocks.
[05:28] <LeeJunFan> rm -rf / is like http://stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3578626a4560,00.html
[05:28] <jloden> sound was working earlier today, then stopped. The only thing I did in between working and not working was create a new user on my laptop and log in as that user. That user wasn't part of the audio group so of course access was denied to the sound server for the new user
[05:29] <jloden> then after that, sound stopped working for my regular user
[05:29] <LeeJunFan> jloden: is that user still logged in? have you rebooted?
[05:29] <__mikem> you could do a dpkg-reconfigure on your sound drivers
[05:29] <jloden> I rebooted since then
[05:29] <jloden> how can I grep out a list of my sound drivers? lsmod ?
[05:30] <__mikem> that command greps out everything else also
[05:30] <LeeJunFan> lsmod | grep sound
[05:31] <jloden> that only gives:
[05:31] <jloden> soundcore               9184  2 snd
[05:31] <__mikem> thats what I am using
[05:31] <LeeJunFan> maybe snd instead of sound.
[05:31] <jloden> it looks like from lsmod that I'm using snd_intel8x0
[05:31] <jloden> the rest is snd_ac97, snd_pcm, snd_pcm_oss and so on, which I assume are generic drivers?
[05:31] <LeeJunFan> dmesg | grep snd --- to see if the kernel complained about loading the mod?
[05:32] <jloden> dmesg | grep snd returns nothing
[05:32] <__mikem> good
[05:32] <orugo>  C:\hi all \
[05:32] <jloden> it seems like everything loaded ok / is loaded, and I tried playing sound with aplay with verbose output, but there's no errors that I can see
[05:33] <jloden> that's why I'm thinking it might be muted somewhere or some kind of output/input config is screwy
[05:33] <orugo> hey
[05:33] <__mikem> dpkg-reconfigure | grep sound
[05:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> yoz0rz
[05:34] <LeeJunFan> jloden: what if you run - artsshell status?
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> brb
[05:35] <jloden> server status: suspended
[05:35] <orugo> hey ive tried to install flight 4
[05:35] <orugo> and i have a problem
[05:35] <jloden> any other output you want from that command? I can't paste it all in, it's a little large
[05:36] <__mikem> my touchpad is suddenly very hard to control
[05:36] <orugo> the install said that pool/main/b/bind9/libdns21_9.3.2ubuntu1_i386.deb
[05:36] <orugo> is corrupt
[05:36] <orugo> and too many other files
[05:36] <orugo> someone with a problem like that?
[05:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Burn your ISO at a slower speed
[05:36] <orugo> yes.. i did it
[05:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh
[05:36] <orugo> and i took the same prob
[05:36] <orugo> maybe i can download the iso again..
[05:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> redownload.
[05:36] <orugo> but i dunno
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> check the MD5 sum
[05:37] <jloden> I usually get best results from burning at 12 or less and verifying the image
[05:37] <orugo> taht
[05:37] <orugo> it said that MDS cannot .... something
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> jloden: I'm cautious, I burn at 1x
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> :
[05:37] <orugo> (i havent a good english)
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> :P*
[05:37] <jloden> haha
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> orugo: cannot verify?
[05:37] <orugo> verify?
[05:37] <orugo> wait a sec
[05:37] <orugo> ill try
[05:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK
[05:37] <__mikem> you could do a dpkg-reconfigure on your sound drivers
[05:38] <Steven_M> hi all
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> yoz0rz.
[05:38] <orugo> o i forget
[05:38] <orugo> i erased the iso
[05:38] <orugo> :(
[05:38] <jloden> I'm not familiar with dpkg-reconfigure or how to specifically configure the sound drivers with it
[05:38] <orugo> im dowloading again
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> orugo: Redownload then. ;)
[05:38] <orugo> haha
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:38] <orugo> but i have the files
[05:38] <Steven_M> who  can  help me with setting up a local repository step by step?
[05:38] <orugo> in a folder
[05:39] <orugo> one of my tries was burning without the iso
[05:39] <orugo> maybe if i burn it with the same name
[05:39] <orugo> slow..
[05:39] <orugo> haha
[05:39] <Snake|OnAir> Hmm
[05:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> and prepares for a reinstall, eh?
[05:42] <Snake|OnAir> CheeseBurgerMan: naa
[05:42] <Snake|OnAir> :)
[05:42] <LeeJunFan> ubotu: tell Steven_M about repos
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> Steven_M: doh, misunderstood question. sry
[05:43] <LeeJunFan> Steven_M: you mean you want to mirror ubuntu?
[05:44] <Steven_M> typing out goal
[05:44] <jloden> CheeseBurgerMan: any more ideas? :)
[05:45] <LeeJunFan> jloden: are your perms on /dev/dsp right? crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2006-02-24 19:33 /dev/dsp
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> jloden: of course if they weren't arts would probably complain when you start kde.
[05:46] <jloden> yeah, that's what they are
[05:46] <LeeJunFan> jloden: I wonder if it's more an arts problem than sound driver problem.
[05:46] <jloden> it could be, it seems like the actual sound driver is ok
[05:46] <jloden> but something is borked somewhere for sure
[05:47] <jloden> arts hav ea log file or something I can check?
[05:49] <LeeJunFan> jloden: I don't think so, you could perhaps remove the kcmartsrc file from .kde/share/config/kcmartsrc and relogin with arts defaults to see if that helps.
[05:49] <jloden> ah hah, I think i found something
[05:49] <jloden> when I run the test sound button in kcontrol, this gets output to stderr:
[05:49] <jloden> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:455:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[05:49] <jloden> handle==0
[05:49] <Snake|OnAir> ftp://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/temp/untitled.JPG
[05:50] <Snake|OnAir> CheeseBurgerMan: check the SS
[05:50] <Snake|OnAir> ;)
[05:50] <LeeJunFan> jloden: if I'm not mistaken that's only for midi output.
[05:50] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:50] <jloden> well, I didn't hit the "test midi" button
[05:50] <Steven_M> LeeJunFan: I mean I want to be able to make a repo on my hard disk so that I can place 3rd party .deb in them, so that I install them through aptitude instead of dpkg -i
[05:51] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nice amendments there, Snake. ;)
[05:51] <Snake|OnAir> ty :)
[05:51] <kreit> does the latest flight cd already include the new installer/livecd system?
[05:51] <LeeJunFan> jloden: may be onto something I don't get that error.
[05:52] <jloden> now it doesn't output that error anymore either haha
[05:53] <jloden> gonna try removing the kcmartsrc and log out and back in
[05:53] <crxyem> so this might be a stupid question but is there a way  to create a link to a device on a panel ??
[05:54] <Steven_M> LeeJunFan: any ideas?
[05:55] <Snake|OnAir> Hey guys
[05:55] <LeeJunFan> Steven_M: I dunno.
[05:55] <Snake|OnAir> How do I restore a Grub 15 error?
[05:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> haha
[05:56] <Snake|OnAir> Cuz uhh my PC wont boot
[05:56] <Snake|OnAir> :-P
[05:56] <LeeJunFan> haha, that's what you get!
[05:56] <Snake|OnAir> :)
[05:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> I use my Windows disk to fixmbr, but when you reinstall it will configure GRUB again. :)
[05:57] <Snake|OnAir> lol
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> grub-install /dev/hda
[05:57] <kakei> hi does anybody have use firestarter and then have problems to connect to msn
[05:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh yeah
[05:57] <LeeJunFan> err. grub-install hd0
[05:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> that too, LeeJunFan. (not that i knew you could do that)
[05:58] <Snake|OnAir> I think I should add this pick to the wiki
[05:58] <Snake|OnAir> lol
[05:58] <Snake|OnAir> To warn newbies :)
[05:58] <CheeseBurgerMan> What? How not to use the CLI?
[05:58] <LeeJunFan> Erasing linux for dummies
[05:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[05:59] <Steven_M> oh ok
[06:01] <jloden> well, that didnt help
[06:01] <jloden> I can't get a single peep out of the speakers
[06:02] <Steven_M> is there any way of getting aptitude to recignise a package that has been installed by dpkg -i?
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Do they have a volume contorl, jloden? And is it turned up? (I know, simple, but if every other option has been exhausted...)
[06:03] <LeeJunFan> jloden: are both your pcm and master volume up and not muted?
[06:03] <jloden> yep
[06:03] <jloden> I'm still thinking it's muted though
[06:03] <jloden> is there some other volume or setting that could mute the sound?
[06:04] <LeeJunFan> jloden: not that I'm aware of.
[06:08] <jloden> found another error message:
[06:08] <jloden> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[06:11] <jindiaz> hey i have a question, is there a way to add cursors and such instead of using themes?
[06:11] <LeeJunFan> jloden: perhaps try running alsamixer from konsole and see if it's all good there?
[06:11] <jindiaz> or do i have to make a theme package or something?
[06:12] <jloden> alsamixer shows PCM and Master both up to 100%
[06:12] <jloden> not muted
[06:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> check the hardware.
[06:13] <jloden> I'll try a bootable CD or something I guess, but I dont have anything handy so I guess I'm done for tonight. God that was frustrating
[06:14] <jloden> well, thanks for the help anyway, take care
[06:15] <blanky> is kubuntu doing better with kde?
[06:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'better'?
[06:15] <LeeJunFan> blanky: better than what?
[06:16] <blanky> not better than anything lol
[06:16] <blanky> I just remember it having problems with KDE
[06:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> yes, it's better than nothing. ;)
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> define problems
[06:17] <pussfeller> iftop is cool as heck
[06:17] <LeeJunFan> I like jnettop better
[06:17] <jindiaz> okkk, anyone know?
[06:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> know what?
[06:17] <jindiaz> how to change cursors
[06:18] <jindiaz> as in, do i need to creat a package or something?
[06:18] <jindiaz> because i want to customize this machine
[06:18] <LeeJunFan> jindiaz: mouse cursors?
[06:18] <jindiaz> yes, mous cursors
[06:19] <jindiaz> pleeeeeeeeeease tell me the ones from windows will work on linux
[06:19] <jindiaz> well, with kde i suppose
[06:19] <LeeJunFan> jindiaz: I beleive they come in themes only, not one by one.
[06:19] <jindiaz> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[06:20] <jindiaz> man....
[06:20] <jindiaz> dang..
[06:20] <jindiaz> so how do i create a theme?
[06:22] <LeeJunFan> been a long time for me working on x cursor stuff, I really can't remember.
[06:22] <jindiaz> awwww... dang.  do you know a webpage or anything i can read thru and work on it?>
[06:28] <crxyem> so this might be a stupid question but is there a way  to create a link to a device on a panel ??
[06:34] <kreit> any idea why all gtk apps are lagging on my operating system?
[06:36] <psycho_oreos> kreit: are you sure its not gam_server that is hogging the processes?
[06:37] <kreit> psycho_oreos: what is gam_server?
[06:38] <psycho_oreos> kreit: its some file monitoring application. Google it and it will define better :) I have tried killing it but it keeps respawning, if I move the file away from its usual working directory, all the other apps go crazy
[06:43] <tamer> Hi people! I want to update kde to 3.5.1, and I don't know how
[06:44] <Snake__> !kde351
[06:44] <ubotu> Snake__: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <tamer> I followed the instuction on the website and run apt-get upgrade, apt-get update
[06:44] <Snake__> !+kde3.5.1
[06:44] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[06:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> That too
[06:46] <tamer> he doesn't make anything :(
[06:46] <tamer> 0 renewed, 0 new installed and 69 not updated
[06:47] <jindiaz> hey i have one more question
[06:47] <tamer> either if I run sudo apt-get upgrade, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:47] <jindiaz> well for tonight
[06:47] <jindiaz> lol
[06:47] <jindiaz> how do i install things exactly
[06:47] <jindiaz> ?
[06:47] <jindiaz> yes im pure noob
[06:47] <jindiaz> well, slightly more then noob, only very slightly
[06:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> sudo apt-get install <package> if there's a package for it.
[06:47] <jindiaz> ahaha
[06:48] <jindiaz> o, i mean, i have them on my desktop
[06:48] <jindiaz> the bz2 things
[06:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> .deb?
[06:48] <jindiaz> tar.gz
[06:48] <jindiaz> i mean
[06:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> oh
[06:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[06:48] <jindiaz> from source i belive its called
[06:48] <Snake__> Ahhh compling..
[06:48] <Snake__> good f*ing luck :)
[06:48] <jindiaz> hahahahahahaha
[06:48] <jindiaz> awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[06:48] <jindiaz> that isnt good.....
[06:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://www.psychocats.net/linux/installingsoftware.php
[06:49] <Snake__> Na its not hard, just it seems developers like to mess up their code and make headaches for you
[06:49] <jindiaz> hahahaha, craptacular
[06:53] <jindiaz> yah that didnt work
[06:53] <jindiaz> hahahahahaha
[06:53] <jindiaz> hmmmm...  ummmn does -xvzf have to be something else?
[06:53] <Snake__> whats the error
[06:54] <Snake__> jindiaz: ah...thats only for tar.gz
[06:54] <Snake__> if its tar.bz2 or whatever, its diffrent
[06:54] <Snake__> I suggest you just unpack it with ark
[06:55] <jindiaz> crap.  actually one moment... sorta skipped a step
[06:55] <jindiaz> hahaha
[06:56] <jindiaz> damn, same deal
[06:56] <jindiaz> ok, so unpack with ark, whut will that do?
[06:57] <jindiaz> and.... how?
[06:57] <jindiaz> lol
[06:57] <Snake__> jindiaz: thats what the tar -xvzf obscure-1.0.tar.gz is doing, its unpacking the software
[06:57] <Snake__> but ark has a GUI
[06:57] <Snake__> and is much easier to use
[06:58] <jindiaz> ooooooooo.  well it didnt work though
[06:58] <jindiaz> but ok, so i opened it with ark, and whut now?
[06:58] <Snake__> See the little blue box thingy?
[06:58] <Snake__> Click it
[06:58] <jindiaz> extract? then yes
[06:58] <Snake__> Yes
[06:59] <jindiaz> cool, so extract to wehre?
[06:59] <jindiaz> where i install stuff to?>
[06:59] <Snake__> no extract to to your home folder
[06:59] <jindiaz> ok cool
[06:59] <Snake__> now go back to your konsole
[06:59] <Snake__> and pick up with the steps after "cd obscure-1.0/"
[07:02] <jindiaz> ummm no such luck
[07:02] <jindiaz> crappppppppppppppp
[07:02] <Snake__> why
[07:02] <jindiaz> llol
[07:02] <jindiaz> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[07:02] <Snake__> what are you compling
[07:02] <jindiaz> gimp
[07:02] <Snake__> Like I said, developers suck, and like to make headaches
[07:02] <jindiaz> 2. something
[07:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> 2.2.10?
[07:02] <Snake__> WOAHH!!! gimps not compliing??
[07:02] <jindiaz> yah
[07:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[07:03] <Snake__> jindiaz: are you in the right dir?
[07:03] <jindiaz> i figure i have to learn it sometime, so id start with one i thought would work
[07:03] <jindiaz> ummmmmmmmm
[07:03] <jindiaz> possibly
[07:03] <jindiaz> hahahahaha
[07:03] <jindiaz> i have no idea
[07:03] <Snake__> .......
[07:03] <jindiaz> AHAHAHAHA
[07:03] <jindiaz> sorry man
[07:03] <Snake__> Well first its good if you sober up
[07:03] <jindiaz> im pure noob at this
[07:03] <jindiaz> HAHA
[07:03] <ja> in GNOME when I put a DVD in the drive it auromagicly starts playing it in totem, how do I get KDE to do that?
[07:03] <jindiaz> i am sober!
[07:04] <Snake__> jindiaz: hang on a secon
[07:04] <jindiaz> lol, cool man, thanks again
[07:04] <Snake__> snake@Laptop:~/Downloads$
[07:04] <Snake__> yours should say something like that
[07:04] <Snake__> whats it say?
[07:05] <jindiaz> jindiaz@CP2:~$ ./configure
[07:05] <Snake__> your in your home directory
[07:05] <jindiaz> o so i put desktop there?
[07:05] <jindiaz> or home?
[07:05] <Snake__> no, there should be another folder...something like gimp2.2 or something you have to go into
[07:05] <Snake__> type ls to list your files
[07:05] <Snake__> then cd to go into the gimp's dir
[07:06] <Snake__> then use cd**
[07:06] <jindiaz> ls worked, but cd didnt
[07:06] <jindiaz> which is odd
[07:06] <Snake__> ubotu: realworld is This is what happens when a moron types a deadly command in his konsole --DO NOT USE THIS COMMAND, IT WILL RUN SYSTEMS-- nake@Laptop:~/Downloads$
[07:06] <ubotu> okay, Snake__
[07:06] <Snake__> argh
[07:07] <Snake__> ubotu: realworld is This is what happens when a moron types a deadly command in his konsole --DO NOT USE THIS COMMAND, IT WILL RUN SYSTEMS-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rmroot
[07:07] <jindiaz> lol
[07:07] <ubotu> ...but realworld is already something else...
[07:07] <Snake__> ubotu: forget realworld
[07:07] <ubotu> Snake__: i forgot realworld
[07:07] <Snake__> ubotu: realworld is This is what happens when a moron types a deadly command in his konsole --DO NOT USE THIS COMMAND, IT WILL RUN SYSTEMS-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rmroot
[07:07] <jindiaz> ryyyyyyyyght
[07:07] <tristanmike> don't you mean RUIN?
[07:07] <Snake__> ubotu: realworld is This is what happens when a moron types a deadly command in his konsole --DO NOT USE THIS COMMAND, IT WILL RUIN SYSTEMS-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rmroot
[07:07] <ubotu> Snake__: okay
[07:07] <Snake__> Just seen that :)
[07:08] <ja> in GNOME when I put a DVD in the drive it automagicly starts playing it in totem, how do I get KDE to do that?
[07:08] <jindiaz> hmm ill have to address this some other time i supopose
[07:08] <Snake__> jindiaz: do you see something like gimp2.2 or something??
[07:08] <Snake__> lol
[07:08] <jindiaz> thanks for the help though
[07:08] <Snake__> Alright
[07:08] <Snake__> cy
[07:08] <Snake__> a
[07:08] <jindiaz> yup
[07:09] <jindiaz> but another time, gotta get an assignment done
[07:09] <jindiaz> lates all
[07:09] <Snake__> N00b.
[07:09] <Snake__> lol
[07:09] <Thedek> Anyone here have a TiVo and use Galleon?
[07:10] <Snake__> no
[07:10] <Snake__> :)
[07:11] <Thedek> Working on getting MythTV working, but I'm sticking with my TV till it's stable. =P
[07:22] <Mrono> hi
[07:23] <Mrono> I have an issue
[07:23] <Mrono> I have no 'network-admin'
[07:24] <tamer> hey people! Really I need your help
[07:24] <Mrono> hi
[07:24] <tamer> I am a ubuntu newbie
[07:24] <tamer> I want to update kde to 3.5.1 and tried everything
[07:24] <tamer> I followed all instructions and don't know further.
[07:24] <Mrono> did you update your repositories
[07:25] <Mrono> it's not that hard
[07:25] <tamer> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dselect-update
[07:25] <tamer> I tried anything
[07:25] <Thedek> apt-get upgrade | apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:25] <Mrono> right
[07:25] <Mrono> 1 sec
[07:25] <Thedek> err, update first, shoot me, it's late. =P
[07:26] <Mrono> sudo apt-get install kdm
[07:26] <Mrono> sudo apt-get install kdm-theme
[07:27] <Mrono> yo thedek
[07:27] <tamer> he don't make it
[07:27] <Mrono> I have no network-admin
[07:27] <Mrono> 'Ubuntu ships with a fantastic GUI network tool called network-admin.'
[07:27] <Mrono> I don't
[07:27] <Mrono> -l: network-admin: command not found
[07:27] <tamer> I recive the message 0, updated, 0 new instaled, 58 packages to update
[07:27] <Mrono> so update
[07:28] <Thedek> sudo apt-get update
[07:28] <tamer> he did it, but nothing else happens
[07:28] <tamer> :(
[07:28] <Thedek> then upgrade or dist-upgrade
[07:28] <Thedek> sudo apt-get upgrade or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:28] <Mrono> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[07:29] <Mrono> that's not good
[07:29] <tamer> he don't make it
[07:29] <tamer> shit software, fuck !
[07:29] <Thedek> Define "don't make it"
[07:29] <Mrono> !tell tamer about rules
[07:29] <tamer> 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 58 nicht aktualisiert.
[07:29] <Mrono> ooo german
[07:29] <Thedek> Did you do the dist-upgrade?
[07:30] <tamer> yes
[07:30] <tamer> dist-upgrade, dist-update
[07:30] <tamer> at 1st I got the gpg key and added it, then the 3 lines in sources.list
[07:30] <tamer> everything
[07:31] <tamer> killed kdm and wanted to make the upgrade, he don't make it
[07:31] <tamer> and it is a brand new installation
[07:32] <Thedek> Are you using these sources: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[07:32] <tamer> yes
[07:32] <Mrono> I need a podcast catcher
[07:32] <tamer> that was the 1st step I made
[07:35] <Thedek> Mrono: btw, the only ref I can find to network-admin is the gnome-system-tools package.  But I honestly don't know much about that.
[07:36] <tamer> I think something is wrong with the apt-get tool
[07:36] <tamer> Is it possible to accomplish this task with dselect?
[07:36] <Mrono> hmnm
[07:36] <Mrono> interestering
[07:36] <Thedek> tamer:  Do you get any errors with apt-get update?
[07:36] <tamer> he said, he did it
[07:37] <tamer> everything okay
[07:37] <tamer> but if i run apt-get upgrade, he shows me the huge list of files he downloaded before and tells me in german: 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 58 nicht aktualisiert
[07:38] <kreit> has anybody found a solution for gam_server?
[07:38] <tamer> the same in english: 0 updated, 0 new to install, 58 not updated
[07:38] <tamer> if i run uptitude, he shows me all upgradeble files
[07:38] <Mrono> hey
[07:39] <tamer> he downloaded it, shows me all packages, but from kde
[07:39] <Mrono> you guys know how to switch between window managers
[07:39] <Mrono> between KDM and GDM
[07:39] <Thedek> tamer: got me... dist-upgrade always works.
[07:39] <Thedek> for me that is
[07:39] <tamer> NO IT DOES NOT
[07:39] <kreit> Mrono: yes, most of us do
[07:40] <Mrono> how do you do it
[07:40] <tamer> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade brings me the same message: 0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 58 nicht aktualisiert.
[07:40] <kreit> Mrono: from kdm
[07:40] <Mrono> wanna let me in on the secret
[07:40] <kreit> Mrono: "k menu" / "switch user"
[07:40] <kreit> Mrono: then:
[07:41] <Thedek> tamer: try apt-get check or apt-get autoclean maybe?
[07:41] <kreit> Mrono: (on the new display) "session type" / <the_other_desktop_env>
[07:42] <Mrono> so
[07:42] <Mrono> I would type
[07:42] <Mrono> session type /GDM
[07:43] <kreit> Mrono: no. just browse the menu for the items i quoted you above.
[07:43] <crimsun> tamer: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:43] <kreit> Mrono: are you in gnome or kde?
[07:43] <Mrono> kde
[07:43] <Mrono> i just installed gnome and i'm trying to switch to it
[07:44] <kreit> ok, go to the "k menu" and do what i said.
[07:45] <kreit> Mrono: do you know what kdm is?
[07:45] <Mrono> kde desktop manager
[07:45] <kreit> right
[07:45] <kreit> so you can logout and choose a new "session type" from the menu
[07:46] <kreit> it's as simple as that.
[07:46] <jasper_> i need some help with wireless (i've got the firmware installed, and the light is on, shows a signal, just can't get an ip)
[07:47] <trappist> jasper_: try sudo dhclient
[07:47] <trappist> jasper_: I was stuck at that part for months.  dhclient finished the job once I finally thought to try something obvious.
[07:48] <jasper_> trappist: just keeps trying to discover
[07:48] <jasper_> trappist: it took me 2 weeks to get this far lol
[07:48] <trappist> sounds like you need to finish configuring it for your netword
[07:48] <trappist> essid, wep key, whatever
[07:48] <trappist> use kwifimanager to set that up
[07:48] <jasper_> not using wep, turned everything off to get it working
[07:48] <jasper_> essid is setup
[07:49] <trappist> also, is your ap a dhcp server or do you maybe need to specify ip, default gateway, dns etc.
[07:49] <kreit> what is gam_server and how do i get rid of it?
[07:49] <trappist> and does your network show up in kwifimanager
[07:50] <kreit> how do i find out which package installed this file?
[07:50] <trappist> kreit: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search gam-server
[07:50] <jasper_> trappist: kwifi shows that i'm connected to the network, but the ap is all FF and local ip is unavailable
[07:50] <jasper_> trappist: shows signal at 100
[07:51] <kreit> trappist: thank you
[07:51] <trappist> jasper_: I forget what to click, but once you've got that network selected in kwifimanager dhclient should do the trick.  did for me, anyway.
[07:52] <jasper_> trappist: odd, when i click scan for networks, it says no networks available
[07:52] <trappist> wow, lame
[07:52] <jasper_> trappist: it's not reaching the ap for some reason
[07:53] <jasper_> i am out of ideas
[07:53] <trappist> try iwlist <interface> scanning
[07:53] <jasper_> no results
[07:53] <trappist> what card?
[07:53] <jasper_> lol broadcom 4318
[07:53] <trappist> I got no experience with that
[07:54] <trappist> but I've had bad luck with broadcom ethernet cards and modems :)
[07:54] <jasper_> oh i know
[07:54] <jasper_> i just got sick of windows and it's integrated
[07:54] <trappist> I managed to find a very nice b/g atheros card for $20 and I'm hangin on to it
[07:54] <trappist> oh
[07:54] <LeeJunFan> broadcom modems were the biggest headache when I worked in the dial-up ISP business.
[07:54] <trappist> laptop?
[07:55] <jasper_> yeah
[07:55] <trappist> jasper_: see if `dmesg` has anything interesting to say
[07:56] <jasper_> hmmm
[07:56] <trappist> look for firmware errors, netdev watchdog messages, anything to do with your device
[07:56] <jasper_> eth0: link is not ready
[07:56] <trappist> does your laptop have a hardware switch to enable the device?
[07:56] <jasper_> yes and it's on
[07:57] <trappist> what's the network device called?  like eth1, ath0, wlan0 etc
[07:57] <jasper_> oh shit
[07:57] <jasper_> hang on
[07:58] <lampshade> any idea why mp3's wouldn't play even after installing the gstreamer mad file?
[07:59] <crimsun> did you execute sudo gst-register-0.8 ?
[07:59] <lampshade> damnit no
[07:59] <jasper_> trappist: i turned it off and then back on and i'm getting a list of networks
[08:00] <jasper_> trappist: brb
[08:00] <trappist> good deal
[08:01] <Steven_M> is there any way of getting aptitude to recignise a package that has been installed by dpkg -i?
[08:01] <trappist> aptitude should recognize it just fine
[08:06] <Steven_M> the last time I installed cedega from a local .deb file, aptitude didn't know it existed.
[08:06] <jasper_> trappist: when i click the network to switch, it doesnt do anything.....looking at dmesg it says softmac authentication response rec'vd from [the mac address]  but no queue item exists
[08:07] <trappist> no idea what that means.  try dhclient again.
[08:08] <tamer> I solved the problem!
[08:08] <stoned> !games
[08:08] <ubotu> [games]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[08:08] <Thedek> tamer: what was it?
[08:08] <tamer> uncommen ALL #deb sources from sources.list
[08:09] <tamer> even those which are not recommended
[08:09] <Mrono> hey
[08:09] <Mrono> I'm in dire need of an expert
[08:09] <tamer> I thought, try it out and it was working later
[08:09] <stoned> how come people are all making rts kinda games
[08:10] <Mrono> I did something to my system
[08:10] <stoned> every other damn game is like that
[08:10] <stoned> :/
[08:10] <Mrono> not sure what
[08:10] <tamer> in the whole sources.list I uncomment everything and then run the other stept....
[08:10] <Mrono> and when I boot it fails mounting my local file system
[08:10] <tamer> The kde 3.5.1 was installable
[08:10] <Mrono> and it doesn't like my netowork card anymore
[08:10] <tamer> for me still a riddle why otherwise it wasn't possible
[08:10] <Steven_M> Is there any way of installing a local .deb file through aptitude instead of dpkg -i?
[08:11] <Mrono> sigh
[08:11] <Thedek> no clue tamer, glad its working now, though.
[08:11] <Mrono> ya know what it'll be easier to just reinstall
[08:11] <jasper_> trappist: i'm gonna try a reboot
[08:11] <Mrono> wipe it out and reinstall
[08:11] <jasper_> trappist: can't think of anything else.....brb
[08:12] <tamer> thanks all for your help... perhaps it has to be discussed in a forum
[08:12] <Steven_M> trappist: ?
[08:12] <tamer> in the kde 3.5.1 upgrade page is nothing written for successfull upgrade and installation steps...
[08:12] <tamer> and I am ubuntu newbie
[08:13] <Thedek> tamer: After everything gets updated, when you are in KDE, in any KDE app look at About KDE and it'll show you the version number you are running.
[08:13] <stoned>  does anyone know anything about how to transport sound over the network.  e.g. I want to play multimedia on my laptop, but have the sound come from the desktop speakers.  right now if i play dvds sound comes from laptop. I want it come on desktop.  kcontrol,sound, and network audio is enabled.  I don't know how to tell laptop to connect to artsd on desktop. any help would be greatly appreciated.
[08:13] <tamer> shows me 3.5.1
[08:13] <tamer> now
[08:13] <lampshade> lol stoned I'm kinda dicking around with the reverse concept, music from computer mounted over network to my laptop
[08:14] <Thedek> tamer:  Then yer good. =)
[08:14] <lampshade> unfortunately it wasn't as easy as fish://mycomp/music in amarok... I hoped it would be but it doesn't play right when I do that.  AMarok chokes for some reason I don't get... :-/
[08:14] <Steven_M> trappist: Is there any way of installing a local .deb file through aptitude instead of dpkg -i?
[08:14] <tamer> I ment on thw kubuntu.org website for updating kde 3.5.1
[08:14] <tamer> you know what I mean?
[08:14] <stoned> lampshade, use nfs and mount the share. amarok will work fine
[08:15] <lampshade> nfs you say eh?
[08:15] <tamer> The documentation and installation guide should be expanded detailly to make a successfully upgrade for newbies easy.
[08:15] <lampshade> what does fish do?
[08:15] <tamer> I would offer you guys my help.
[08:15] <Thedek> stoned:  Might find something here: http://linux-sound.org/netaudio.html
[08:15] <tamer> fish is a SSH client
[08:15] <lampshade> ahhh  so it is actually sshing over
[08:15] <lampshade> ok
[08:15] <Steven_M> never mind
[08:15] <stoned> Thedek, I've already scanned that
[08:16] <stoned> onlything I saw related to arts and network was NAS and there is an option for it in kcontrol sound also, but i cant  find out how to make the two work
[08:16] <Mrono> mabye I should just go back to windows
[08:17] <Tezkah> anyone else have a ralink card that freezes the system?
[08:17] <trappist> stoned: you could make your own apt repository
[08:18] <trappist> err oops
[08:18] <Java_the_Hutt> hello I have installed ubuntu-desktop over my kubuntu, now when I login to KDE my GTK sytyles doesn't apply to applications like Firefox. How can I fix this ?
[08:19] <trappist> Java_the_Hutt: launch kcontrol and go to appearance and themes or whatever it's called - therein somewhere you'll find a setting to apply your kde themes to gtk apps
[08:19] <_sniff> guys
[08:19] <Thedek> stoned: http://www.arts-project.org/doc/handbook/faq.html ... section toward the bottom called Network Transparency
[08:19] <_sniff> anyone i know here?
[08:19] <Tezkah> yep, look for GTK Styles
[08:19] <stoned> lampshade, sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel server && sudo echo "/dir/you/want/to/share/ withnameofpchere(rw,sync)" > /etc/exports && sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start && nano /etc/fstab and add a line for this nfs share
[08:19] <_sniff> well
[08:19] <_sniff> anyone know how to set bogofilter to move messages when they are 90% certain of being spam, not 99%?
[08:20] <stoned> Thedek, I read that already, I started arts with the proper switches, through konsole as well as through the gui config.  how do I tell the laptop to connec to arts on desktop
[08:20] <Java_the_Hutt> trappist: yes I know that, but after I installed ubuntu-destktop, now kde themes settings does not affect anything. That is my problem
[08:21] <trappist> Java_the_Hutt: uncheck the box, apply, recheck it and apply.  installing ubuntu-desktop probably clobbered the settings and they need to be reapplied.
[08:21] <lampshade> stoned, awesome, thanks
[08:23] <Thedek> stoned:  See this one? http://tips.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/05/11/1853249&tid=85&tid=70&tid=43
[08:24] <Java_the_Hutt> trappist: there is no checkbox to uncheck, only radiobuttons
[08:24] <Java_the_Hutt> trappist: even ICON of firefox has been changed
[08:25] <stoned> ARTS_SERVER!
[08:25] <trappist> Java_the_Hutt: ok select another radio button, apply, etc.
[08:26] <stoned> I don't see why they don't make the clearer to the younger people today
[08:26] <Thedek> stoned:  I'm new too, I'm just good at Googling. =)
[08:27] <stoned> what string did you search
[08:27] <Java_the_Hutt> trappist: it doesnt work
[08:28] <Thedek> stoned: artsd exporting sound (there are a few other probably useful links on that google result list)
[08:29] <stoned> I remember now
[08:29] <stoned> I actually came across this
[08:29] <stoned> but it wouldn't work for me
[08:29] <stoned> because I am going through ssh -X, and I need to find a tunnel for audio traffic
[08:29] <stoned> :/
[08:30] <Thedek> stoned: Try this one, further down, then... seems to talk about using SSH forwarding: http://deccan.cs.berkeley.edu/wiki/index.php/Linux:ExportSound
[08:32] <MeshGearFox> !help internet
[08:32] <stoned> I came across that as well
[08:32] <stoned> only problem, it doesn't mention arts
[08:32] <stoned> :/
[08:32] <MeshGearFox> Okay, that was the wrong trigger ^^
[08:32] <stoned> !internet
[08:32] <ubotu> stoned: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:33] <stoned> !sex
[08:33] <ubotu> stoned: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:33] <stoned> lol
[08:33] <MeshGearFox> Heh. Anyway, I lost my internet connection, probably as a result of me needless screwing around withmy soundcard's PCI latency. Wondering if there's some way I could get it back?
[08:33] <stoned> ubotu: sex is good
[08:33] <ubotu> okay, stoned
[08:33] <stoned> !sex
[08:33] <ubotu> sex is probably good
[08:33] <stoned> lol
[08:33] <stoned> its true
[08:34] <stoned> anyway
[08:34] <stoned> man this thing is kicking my ass
[08:34] <MeshGearFox> stoned what's wrong :(
[08:34] <stoned> i been trying to get this working for a long time
[08:34] <Thedek> stoned: when you do "export ARTS_SERVER=LOCAL:16001", you are replacing LOCAL with the ip/name of the machine running artsd with network transparency, right?
[08:34] <stoned> Thedek, of course mate
[08:35] <stoned> pretend i've been using a computer for say 43 years
[08:35] <stoned> no wtf
[08:35] <stoned> typo
[08:35] <Thedek> Ok... I'lls top helping, you know more than me. =P
[08:35] <stoned> 23 yrs :D
[08:35] <stoned> no its not that
[08:35] <stoned> im jsut saying, like oh nevermind
[08:35] <Thedek> I know, just giving you a bad time. =)
[08:36] <Thedek> If I had access to a 2nd linux box atm, I'd try it myself and see what happens, but I only have 1 running right now. =/
[08:37] <stoned> you can use free wmvware player, download a free linux virtual machine image, and boot up, it should be made so that it appears also as a physical machine in your internal network
[08:37] <stoned> you can experimnt with diff things that way
[08:37] <stoned> :D
[08:37] <Thedek> Yeah, I was just thinking that, actually. =P
[08:37] <Thedek> I have the VMWare Player and Ubuntu image on this winblows machine.
[08:37] <stoned> perfect way to learn without fucking shit up
[08:38] <Thedek> I have a 'toy box' in another room I SSH into and VNC into with x11vnc for :0 display.
[08:38] <stoned> ugh
[08:38] <stoned> why
[08:38] <stoned> vnc sucks dude
[08:38] <stoned> check out Xming
[08:38] <Thedek> Ok, enlighten me. =P
[08:38] <MeshGearFox> So, yeah, er, anyone have any idea how I'd go about restarting my internet connection :|
[08:39] <Thedek> MeshGearFox: Is the machine getting an ip?
[08:39] <stoned> its a port of Xserver for windows, then simply use putty to ssh -X into toy box and run linux apps, all should be dandy
[08:39] <Tezkah> MeshGearFox: "dhclient eth0" or whatever is your connection
[08:39] <stoned> or actualy in putty you hvae to select X11 forwarding
[08:39] <stoned> sshX is much faster/better than vnc
[08:40] <Thedek> Ok, I'll check it out.  I've been having problems getting x11vnc to run at startup anyway.
[08:40] <stoned> if all fails, you could always ditch vmware and run cygwin
[08:40] <Thedek> bleh
[08:40] <stoned> if you feel really brave give colinux a shot
[08:41] <stoned> colinux isa port of the linux kernel that runs side by side wint windows
[08:41] <stoned> really fast too
[08:41] <Thedek> I'll stick with VMWare Player, I've got about 3 other images I created for it. =P
[08:41] <stoned> yeh, you can use the demo version to create all sorts of virtual images
[08:41] <stoned> then you can play them with vmplayer
[08:41] <stoned> its great
[08:42] <Thedek> Yup, you see they made desktop (whatever they call it) free?
[08:42] <stoned> ?
[08:43] <Thedek> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
[08:43] <stoned> i just made copies of my windows server 2003 fully loaded with everything immaginable for a server, on a dvd as a virtual machine.  its a 4gb image, prety good for traveling
[08:44] <stoned> or sharing illegal copies of virtual machines of ms products
[08:44] <stoned> hehe
[08:44] <Thedek> Yeah, i'm working on a bootable flash drive with kubuntu / windows
[08:44] <MeshGearFox> Oh, wait.
[08:44] <stoned> i have not used windows since 1997
[08:45] <MeshGearFox> My IP address expired today. That's probably what messed it up. Not me screwing around with the PCI latency thinger.
[08:45] <stoned> except for stuff i relly need it for, then i just find a way to virtualize
[08:45] <Thedek> stoned: That's where I'm trying to go.  Quickbooks/Quicken are my 'killer apps' at this point.
[08:47] <Thedek> and games... I'd miss a lot of windows games. =P
[08:48] <MeshGearFox> There's Cedega/cvscedega/wine.
[08:49] <Thedek> stoned: bah, my VMware image is ubuntu and didn't seem to be using arts.  I'll have to try it tomorrow when my roommate and his laptop are here.
[08:58] <nlindblad> how do I use GPG with Kontakt?
[08:59] <Thedek> stoned: Xming doesn't give me console :0, though.
[09:03] <stoned> Thedek, xming is an xserver for windows.  run it.  then use putty, and configure it to use X11 forwarding(go through the gui, you'll find it, or search google) then ssh to the linux box, run any X application and it will show up on windows
[09:04] <Thedek> Yeah, I got firefox and xterm to run on my windows box, but I wanted to SEE the actual console on the remote machine (desktop, menu, panel, etc).  Hence why I was using vnc.
[09:06] <stoned> all you need to do is run kicker & in putty while logged, and p lace kicker on top of the screen.  on bottom startba, on top kicker
[09:06] <stoned> if you feel really brave, you can run kdesktop &
[09:08] <Thedek> now I'm getting: /usr/bin/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/myuser/.Xauthority
[09:11] <Thedek> oh well, maybe tomorrow.  Night. =)
[09:22] <MeshGearFox> OKay, I ran dhclient eth0, but it said it couldn't find any working leases in the persistent database.
[10:03] <_sniff>     bogoutil -l wordlist.db.new < wordlist.utf8.txt
[10:04] <_sniff> sorry
[10:14] <tomas_> good morning everyone
[10:15] <tomas_> Can anyone tell me why I can't play anything in any player  except MPlayer? I have tried amarok, noatunm, kaffeine and juk or whatever its called. Only MPlayer works :/
[10:15] <tomas_> I get sound when I login so there are no clear problem with the sound system *-)
[10:15] <tomas_> problems
[10:18] <fatejudger> every time I try and "kdesu", I get the error "conversation with su failed"
[10:18] <fatejudger> anyone know what I screwed up?
[10:20] <fatejudger> so I tried using "sudo" and it says that the timestamp is too far in the future
[10:22] <fatejudger> I think I've had this problem before
[10:23] <fatejudger> nm, fixed it
[10:43] <aceofhertz> is there any way to make kubuntu allow my geforce fx 5200 to use both the DVI-adapter, the VGA adapter and tv-out at the same time?
[10:45] <bosjsdfl> !repos
[10:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:04] <bosjsdfl> can i use paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 for kubuntu?
[11:04] <bosjsdfl> not just ubuntu
[11:04] <bosjsdfl> is it the best to use for kubuntu
[11:04] <uniq> yes you can.
[11:05] <bosjsdfl> ok thanks
[11:06] <bimberi> bosjsdfl: sure you can, there's also http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/ if you like :)
[11:07] <bosjsdfl> bimberi: I was refering to the actual paste
[11:08] <bosjsdfl> paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[11:08] <bosjsdfl> 6047
[11:08] <bosjsdfl> just wanted to know if the apt repo list on there is the one to use
[11:09] <bosjsdfl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[11:09] <ADC_> I've run into a weird problem and need help. My display drivers aren't correct for my monitor or possibly my video card, I dunno which. I don't know how to fix it. Can anyone point me at the proper place to look for help, or give me a hand?
[11:10] <bimberi> bosjsdfl: looks good to me, apart from the typo in the comments ('pacakges') :)
[11:14] <bosjsdfl> :)
[11:16] <bosjsdfl> hey how do i change tabs in konqueror
[11:16] <bosjsdfl> alt tab don't work
[11:16] <bosjsdfl> like what i do in firefox in gnome
[11:17] <jpatrick> alt-tab is for something different
[11:17] <egibbs> konqueror dosent have tabs
[11:17] <bosjsdfl> yeah
[11:17] <bosjsdfl> yeah it does
[11:17] <jpatrick> egibbs: it does
[11:17] <bosjsdfl> now
[11:17] <ADC_> Guess nobody knows where/how to update display drivers?
[11:18] <bosjsdfl> well in kde how do i change tabs in firefox or konqueror
[11:18] <bosjsdfl> anyone?
[11:18] <ADC_> Try ctrl-tab?
[11:18] <ADC_> That's my guess.
[11:18] <bosjsdfl> tryed that
[11:18] <bosjsdfl> thats what i ment before
[11:19] <bosjsdfl> sorry
[11:19] <bosjsdfl> ctrl tab
[11:19] <ADC_> Ahhh. Hmm, lemme try a thing or two.
[11:19] <jpatrick> bosjsdfl: Ctrl+. OR Ctrl+,
[11:19] <jpatrick> bosjsdfl: Tools -> Configure Shortcuts
[11:21] <ADC_> What jpatrick said, yeah. I didn't find anything else.
[11:21] <bosjsdfl> jpatrick: chears :D
[11:22] <jpatrick> bosjsdfl: be happy :)
[11:23] <bosjsdfl> settings -> Configure Shortcuts
[11:23] <bosjsdfl> and yes , yes i will :D
[11:24] <ADC_> Still need help with my display problem. I can't see enough of my screen to actually poke around in settings at the moment - though I can tell that my display thing thinks 640x480 at 60hz is all this monitor can handle.
[11:25] <jpatrick> ADC_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:26] <ADC_> jpatrick: Thankyouthankyouthankyou.
[11:27] <bimberi> oi oi oi
[11:28] <bimberi> :P
[11:29] <Pringaillo> kubuntu 5.1 has several fails with eth0
[11:30] <ADC_> Now, a reboot... if I'm not back, it either worked or I fried. Either way, thanks very much for the right commandline.
[11:32] <epoizot> can't make my printer working
[11:33] <epoizot> cupsd deamon disappear after a moement
[11:34] <epoizot> i have to restart it manually
[11:34] <epoizot> unable to load http://localhost:631 page
[11:42] <_roland> moin
[11:43] <_roland> ich dachte ich versuch nochmal den sprung von suse in ein halbwegs vernnftiges linux
[11:43] <_roland> hab grad kubuntu installiert
[11:43] <_roland> und versuche diesmal als erstes meine AVerTV DVB-T Karte ans laufen zu bekommen
[11:44] <_roland> sag mir doch bitte einer, ob ich da berhaupt eine chance habe?
[11:44] <callahan> i hate rules.
[11:44] <jpatrick> !de
[11:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:45] <_roland> Sorry
[11:46] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> How do I get FlashPlayer working in Konqueror? I have dowloaded the files from Macromedia and I'm able to install it for firefox but not for Konqueror
[11:46] <v|ffm|egan> _roland: please go to #kubuntu-de , pehaps I can help you there
[11:46] <epoizot> can't make my printer working
[11:51] <epoizot> cpusd restart many times but does not stay
[11:51] <Tonio_> yop
[11:53] <epoizot> * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd              [ok] 
[11:53] <epoizot> but not seen when ps -eaf | grep cups
[12:01] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> I suppose....
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> I'm feeling brave enough to upgrade to dapper.
[12:02] <jpatrick> :P
[12:03] <Psi-Jack> jpatrick: I need a suggestion. Got any? :)
[12:03] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <edulix> hi ppl!
[12:10] <_epoizot> i'm new with kubuntu and got a lots of problems with it
[12:11] <_epoizot> printer is not working
[12:11] <edulix> _epoizot: hello =)
[12:11] <_epoizot> hi
[12:12] <edulix> mayb your printer is not a linux supported model?
[12:12] <Pringaillo> hello
[12:13] <edulix> hola pringaillo jeje
[12:13] <_epoizot> i think it is : hp deskjet 845c usb
[12:13] <Pringaillo> can I mount a ntfs partition?
[12:13] <_epoizot> with cups, shouldn't be any pbs
[12:13] <Hobbsee> !tell Pringaillo about mount
[12:13] <_epoizot> but unable to load localhost:631
[12:14] <_epoizot> i desintall and reinstll cupsys, restart the box... for nothing
[12:15] <Pringaillo> Hobbsee but... do you know if there is problems to mount a ntfs partition?
[12:15] <Hobbsee> Pringaillo: as read only, there are no problems.  as write, there are many
[12:15] <_epoizot> even with systemsetting, it freez in initialising manager...
[12:15] <Acksaw> hey guys
[12:16] <Acksaw> anyone wanna help me set up a dual boot windows/kubuntu?
[12:16] <Pringaillo> ok Hobbsee, im going to read
[12:16] <edulix> Acksaw: the best way is to first install windows, and then kubuntu
[12:16] <Hobbsee> Acksaw: sure, what do you need to know about it?
[12:18] <Hobbsee> Acksaw: basically, install windows, defrag, install kubuntu and resize windows in the process - use the manual partition bit.  you can tell it to auto allocate the free space after you've resized windows.
[12:19] <samoura> someone here?
[12:19] <_epoizot> hi
[12:19] <Pringaillo> hey, where do I have to copy sources-list?
[12:20] <Hobbsee> Pringaillo:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <Pringaillo> what directori?
[12:20] <samoura> NOTEVENTIME are you here ?
[12:20] <Pringaillo> thanks again
[12:20] <Hobbsee> Pringaillo: as in sudo cp ~/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <Hobbsee> i'm assuming
[12:20] <Pringaillo> and, how can I use su?
[12:21] <Hobbsee> !sudo
[12:21] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:21] <Pringaillo> default password?
[12:21] <Pringaillo> I whould rather use su instead of sudo
[12:21] <Pringaillo> but I dont know default passowrd, I should use sudo?
[12:21] <hibatsu> Hi
[12:21] <_epoizot> you can set root passwd with sudo passwd root
[12:21] <Pringaillo> Im going
[12:21] <Hobbsee> use sudo -s if you're that desperate
[12:21] <hibatsu> can anyone help me with this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135648
[12:21] <Psi-Jack> Pringaillo: You can sudo su -
[12:22] <Pringaillo> yeah
[12:23] <Acksaw> about the dual boot
[12:23] <Acksaw> i already have widnows installed
[12:23] <Acksaw> do i just stick in the kubuntu install disc?
[12:23] <Acksaw> will that set it up for a dual boot/
[12:23] <Acksaw> im gonna be using windows for gaming
[12:24] <jpatrick> Psi-Jack: NOT sudo su
[12:24] <Hobbsee> !dualboot
[12:24] <ubotu> [dualboot]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:24] <Hobbsee> Acksaw: ^
[12:25] <Psi-Jack> jpatrick: Heh.. sudo su -  is just like sudo -s
[12:25] <jpatrick> no it ain't
[12:25] <Psi-Jack> jpatrick: The difference is, sudo su -  actually runs a login shell, where, sudo -s does not.
[12:26] <hibatsu> can anyone help me with this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=135648
[12:26] <jpatrick> sudo -s is /tmp
[12:26] <jpatrick> sudo -i == sudo su
[12:27] <Pringaillo> hey Hobbsee, command line to sources.list? apt-get search PROGRAM? or aptitude..?
[12:27] <samoura> hobbsee
[12:27] <Hobbsee> Pringaillo: as in, kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:27] <samoura> hobbsee
[12:27] <Hobbsee> samoura:
[12:27] <Psi-Jack> jpatrick: Heh. so sudo -i is an interactive (login), shell, and -s is not. Basically, there's not much difference that I, personally, can see.
[12:27] <samoura> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/quickhacks.htm can you help me
[12:28] <jpatrick> Pringaillo: apt-cache search....
[12:29] <Hobbsee> ice: what in particular about it?
[12:30] <ice|vargur> i want to know waht Shellscript  is?
[12:30] <Pringaillo> i found firefox program but i cant install from aptitude/apt-get
[12:30] <Hobbsee> Pringaillo: firefox 1.5?
[12:30] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[12:31] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:31] <Acksaw> can i buy kubuntu discs?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> ice|vargur: google bash script or something similar
[12:31] <Acksaw> or are they free like ubuntu?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> Acksaw: i think the dapper ones are planned to be free - maybe dapper +1
[12:33] <ice|vargur> kize
[12:35] <Hobbsee> ice|vargur: it's rude to private message without permission.
[12:35] <Hobbsee> besides that, i dont know the answer to your question
[12:48] <_antonio> hello
[12:48] <jpatrick> hola _antonio
[12:48] <_antonio> how can i see ntfs in kubuntu?
[12:48] <_antonio> please help from spain
[12:48] <Hobbsee> !mount
[12:48] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:48] <Hobbsee> !windowsdrives
[12:48] <ubotu> from memory, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[12:48] <_antonio> ok
[12:48] <_antonio> thanks
[12:51] <Acksaw> how do i unistall kubuntu if i dont like it?
[12:52] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get remove libqt-mt
[12:52] <Hobbsee> Acksaw: ^
[12:52] <Hobbsee> but that will leave you with no kde
[12:52] <ice|vargur> http://images.google.is/imgres?imgurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/images/2003-3-8_thumb.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php&h=150&w=200&sz=8&tbnid=EU8Z6pYM34dCLM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=99&hl=is&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlinux%2Bhacks%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dis%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG    how do i install script
[12:52] <Chousuke> Acksaw: Do you want to get rid of it completely, or do you want to switch back to Ubuntu?
[12:54] <Hobbsee> ice|vargur: take the text there, save it as whatever.sh, sudo chmod +x whatever.sh, then ./whatever.sh
[12:54] <Hobbsee> just like it say sin the instructions up the top
[12:58] <callahan> anybody here a self-righteous type of person?
[01:03] <jpatrick> callahan: maybe me
[01:04] <callahan> jpatrick: no, i guess you're just being honest. :P
[01:04] <callahan> jpatrick: i mean really self-righteous type of persons. :)
[01:06] <callahan> how dangerous is this: "kernel: journal commit I/O error"
[01:07] <jpatrick> er..
[01:07] <jpatrick> very I guess
[01:07] <callahan> jpatrick: must i fsck?
[01:07] <jpatrick> I would
[01:09] <callahan> jpatrick: thanks
[01:12] <Acksaw> well
[01:12] <Acksaw> what i mean is
[01:12] <Acksaw> if i dont like kubuntu
[01:13] <Acksaw> and i wanna go back to single boot windows
[01:13] <Acksaw> how would that be achieved/
[01:13] <Chousuke> Acksaw: you boot to windows and remove the kubuntu partition from there.
[01:13] <Acksaw> okey
[01:13] <Acksaw> now to burn the install disc
[01:14] <Chousuke> do you have free space for kubuntu already? :)
[01:14] <Chousuke> I mean unpartitioned space. You can't install kubuntu on windows partitions.
[01:14] <Acksaw> i dunno
[01:15] <Acksaw> i just installed windows
[01:15] <Acksaw> not just, like 1 month ago
[01:15] <Acksaw> so ive no idea
[01:15] <Chousuke> Ah.
[01:15] <Chousuke> I suppose you might have given windows the whole disk then :/
[01:15] <Acksaw> prolly
[01:15] <Chousuke> In which case you will need to resize the partition to free some space for kubuntu
[01:16] <Acksaw> how?
[01:16] <Chousuke> You need some tool that can resize ntfs, like partition magic
[01:16] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> UltimateBootCD for example has botable tools for resizing
[01:16] <Chousuke> I don't know any other tools for that.
[01:17] <Chousuke> Acksaw: how big is your HD?
[01:17] <Chousuke> Acksaw: also, how big is your C drive?
[01:17] <Chousuke> and do you have any other drives?
[01:17] <Acksaw> just one 200gb
[01:17] <Acksaw> sata
[01:17] <Chousuke> and that's all C?
[01:17] <Chousuke> :p
[01:17] <Acksaw> yup
[01:17] <Chousuke> Okay then, you need to resize it.
[01:18] <Chousuke> !resize
[01:18] <ubotu> Chousuke: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:18] <Acksaw> how do i do that?
[01:18] <Chousuke> hm. :/
[01:18] <Chousuke> I'm not sure.
[01:18] <Chousuke> Windows can't do it on its own
[01:18] <Chousuke> And as far as I know Ubuntu can't either.
[01:18] <Chousuke> Maybe others on this channel know better than I.
[01:19] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> www.ultimatebootcd.com <--- Burn it out and boot from it. It has QTParted to resize the disk to make space for Kubuntu
[01:19] <Chousuke> h1dd3nh4xx0r: can it handle ntfs?
[01:19] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> Yup
[01:19] <Chousuke> nice.
[01:19] <Chousuke> I wonder if the Ubuntu installer will integrate such tools at some point.
[01:21] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> Make sure you get the full version of UBCD. It contains INSERT, a Knoppix bootable which has QTParted
[01:22] <margouyab> what is the best and easiest torrent client on kubuntu???
[01:22] <ccc_> margouyab: try ktorrent
[01:23] <ccc_> margouyab: get the version from their website, http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=downloads
[01:24] <ccc_> 1.2 is not in any repos yet afaik
[01:24] <margouyab> thanks
[01:25] <stefano> guys
[01:25] <stefano> how can i share my printer to windows-clients?
[01:25] <stefano> my sister's gonna need the printer :>
[01:43] <margouyab> with samba
[01:44] <margouyab> but i don't know how it work
[01:44] <margouyab> too late
[01:50] <tomas_> hi everyone
[01:50] <tomas_> anyone running dapper with amarok working?
[02:04] <roythemean> can someone help a complete newbie? ^_^
[02:04] <margouyab> for what??
[02:05] <margouyab> i a non complete newbie and if i can help
[02:05] <roythemean> I just installed kubuntu today, to try it out, and stuff is fine, etc. But I downloaded firefox and extracted the tar, and I don't know how to run it
[02:05] <Chousuke> roythemean: you should install firefox with APT
[02:06] <Chousuke> and on KDE, perhaps you should try konqueror. It's KDE native and a very good browser. :)
[02:06] <Paradosso> roythemean: sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:06] <roythemean> I'm using Konqueror right now, but I'm really used to firefox :D
[02:06] <roythemean> thanks guys, I'll try it out :D
[02:07] <Chousuke> You won't get the newest firefox with apt though.
[02:07] <Chousuke> breezy still uses 1.0.7
[02:07] <roythemean> who is breezy?
[02:07] <Chousuke> breezy is the newest ubuntu version.
[02:07] <Chousuke> 5.10
[02:08] <Chousuke> (also kubuntu)
[02:08] <roythemean> I got this error:
[02:08] <roythemean> Reading package lists... Done
[02:08] <roythemean> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:08] <roythemean> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:08] <roythemean> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:08] <roythemean> is only available from another source
[02:08] <roythemean> E: Package firefox has no installation candidate
[02:08] <roythemean> have I done it wrong?
[02:08] <Chousuke> hmm.
[02:09] <roythemean> actually I was willing to use konqueror for a while, but gmail won't give me the full version when I use it, I only get the HTML-only version
[02:18] <FaTBaT> 2roythemean: try Opera. It works good with gmail.
[02:19] <ana> hello. i've got a small problem with amarok. an album (mp3 files) doesn't play right, it's sounds like it a disk skipping, even though in windows it worked just fine.and other mp3 files play just fine in amarok... what could the problem be?
[02:20] <samoura> hello someone here
[02:20] <tomas_> ana: i cant play anything in dapper ( i guess there is some faulty package)
[02:20] <moret> hi all
[02:20] <tomas_> hi samoura
[02:20] <tomas_> hi moret
[02:20] <samoura_Hello> hello someone here?
[02:20] <tomas_> im here :p
[02:20] <moret> I need help with "automount" in kubuntu breezy
[02:20] <samoura_Hello> http://images.google.is/imgres?imgurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/images/2003-3-8_thumb.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php&h=150&w=200&sz=8&tbnid=EU8Z6pYM34dCLM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=99&hl=is&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlinux%2Bhacks%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dis%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG can anybody help me to install this xplanet :D
[02:21] <moret> automount is with ivman right?
[02:21] <moret> how can I configure it in order to when I push eject button it automaticly umount it
[02:21] <moret> ?
[02:21] <tomas_> moret: what do you want to accomplish?
[02:21] <dIG|Vargur> http://images.google.is/imgres?imgurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/images/2003-3-8_thumb.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php&h=150&w=200&sz=8&tbnid=EU8Z6pYM34dCLM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=99&hl=is&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlinux%2Bhacks%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dis%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG can anybody help me to install this xplanet :D
[02:22] <moret> tomas_: when I insert a CD, Kubuntu automaticly mount it, but, if I want eject CDROM I must do it from Storage media
[02:23] <moret> and I want only push de button
[02:23] <dIG|Vargur> Hello someone here ;S
[02:23] <tomas_> tomas: aha, do you use any software with it before trying to ejecting it?
[02:24] <tomas_> tomas: cause I think it's possible that some problem is still using the drive or something *-)
[02:24] <tomas_> program
[02:24] <tomas_> hmm, i understand you *-)
[02:25] <tomas_> moret: i guess you will have to rightclick on the cd and click unmount or something like that :/
[02:25] <tomas_> eject
[02:25] <tomas_> i mean
[02:25] <tomas_> i dont really know, sorry :/
[02:27] <tomas_> its the same in dapper so i dont think it will change
[02:27] <tomas_> take care
[02:27] <tomas_> bye
[02:28] <jind> How about just "eject /dev/cdrom" from a terminal as root
[02:28] <dIG|Vargur> Notevent time here
[02:33] <dIG|Vargur> #ubuntu
[02:34] <NRG88> why won't xchat system tray minimize in gnome/
[02:34] <NRG88> ?
[02:35] <dIG|Vargur> can i hack gnome desktop to kubuntu?
[02:35] <NRG88> dIG|Vargur, no need to hack :)
[02:35] <visik7> uh ?
[02:35] <NRG88> just install
[02:35] <visik7> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:38] <NRG88> dIG|Vargur, sudo apt-get install gnome
[02:38] <dIG|Vargur> http://images.google.is/imgres?imgurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/images/2003-3-8_thumb.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php&h=150&w=200&sz=8&tbnid=EU8Z6pYM34dCLM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=99&hl=is&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3DLinux%2BHacks%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dis%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG    How can install this ;( it says gnome desktop ;S
[02:38] <NRG88> or if you want full ubuntu desktop, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <dIG|Vargur> ThaNKS!
[02:39] <NRG88> welcome
[02:39] <AdTheRat> Could anyone guide me to how to set up Kubuntu as a Samba server?
[02:39] <AdTheRat> or point me to a guide ^^;
[02:41] <dIG|Vargur> NRG88 http://images.google.is/imgres?imgurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/images/2003-3-8_thumb.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php&h=150&w=200&sz=8&tbnid=EU8Z6pYM34dCLM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=99&hl=is&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3DLinux%2BHacks%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dis%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG  chack this please i want to install it but i dont know how ;9
[02:42] <NRG88> i'll check it
[02:42] <dIG|Vargur> k :)
[02:42] <dIG|Vargur> NRG88 is your name Noteventime on irc ?
[02:42] <NRG88> no
[02:42] <NRG88> NRG88
[02:42] <dIG|Vargur> k
[02:43] <NRG88> i suppose you install gnome first
[02:43] <NRG88> then sudo apt-get install xplanet
[02:43] <dIG|Vargur> noteventime is good boy like you that is why i thought you ware him :P
[02:43] <dIG|Vargur> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ sudo apt-get install xplanet
[02:43] <dIG|Vargur> Reading package lists... Done
[02:43] <dIG|Vargur> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:43] <dIG|Vargur> xplanet is already the newest version.
[02:43] <dIG|Vargur> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 97 not upgraded.
[02:44] <NRG88> then it is installed :)
[02:44] <NRG88> try alt+f2
[02:44] <NRG88> and xplanet
[02:44] <NRG88> i don't know this program
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> Warning: Can't find earth.jpg in
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> xplanet/images
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> /home/samoura/.xplanet/images
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> /usr/share/xplanet/images
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> Warning: Can't find map file earth.jpg
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> Warning: Can't load map file earth.jpg
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> ;(
[02:45] <NRG88> dhm
[02:45] <NRG88> strange
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> can you come one channal #dsdssadas   to help me :P
[02:45] <NRG88> ok
[02:45] <dIG|Vargur> so we dont flood the channal
[02:49] <bigmouth> Hello, is there somebody who can help me with a sound card?
[02:50] <_silje> hi everyone
[02:50] <_silje> have anyone had a problem that the ethernet device disables when you enable it
[02:50] <bigmouth> The card is a C-Media CM8738, kernel modules are loaded, but alsamixer and KDE mixer cannot set volume, and I can't get anz sound out of it
[02:51] <_silje> ive enabled it but to seconds after it disables
[02:51] <jpatrick> _silje: known bug
[02:51] <bigmouth> z <-> y, (sorry, german keyboard, with italian mapping.)
[02:53] <_silje> jpatrick: but is it possible to solve?
[02:53] <jpatrick> _silje: edit your /etc/network/interfaces manually
[02:54] <_silje> jpatrick: what should i edit, in there
[02:56] <jpatrick> _silje: see man:/interfaces
[02:57] <bigmouth> Anybody helps me with a soud card, pleas?
[02:58] <bigmouth> Thanks.
[03:02] <zblach> quick question. i'm using a microsoft natural ergonomic 4000 kb, and i've a few buttons left undetectable. how can I use 'em?
[03:06] <_epoizot> have a look at xbindkey
[03:09] <viktor> err, how do i change my desktop? i just happend to change to gnome i think while running kde :P
[03:10] <arrinmurr> viktor: so you have both gnome and kde installed?
[03:11] <viktor> yes
[03:11] <arrinmurr> viktor: and you're now in gnome but would like to use kde?
[03:11] <viktor> yes, i would like that
[03:12] <jpatrick> install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[03:13] <arrinmurr> viktor: log out, choose kde from the login prompt and login?
[03:13] <viktor> okay, ill try that
[03:30] <samoura> Noteventime here
[03:31] <Acksaw> how do i set up a partition?
[03:31] <Acksaw> in windows
[03:31] <samoura> how do i download window
[03:31] <samoura> i have linux
[03:31] <samoura> and i want window
[03:31] <visik7> u can't :)
[03:31] <samoura> why?
[03:32] <visik7> 'couse it's not free asd
[03:32] <visik7> free as free beer
[03:32] <visik7> :)
[03:32] <samoura> FUCKED LINUX
[03:32] <visik7> right
[03:32] <Acksaw> yeh
[03:32] <samoura> ohhhhh but i can remove linux and than install window right?
[03:32] <samoura> ohhhhh but i can remove linux and than install window right?
[03:32] <Acksaw> so, anyone wanna help me set up a partition
[03:33] <Acksaw> samoura
[03:33] <samoura> and than reinstall window
[03:33] <Acksaw> just get a windows install disc and format
[03:33] <Plouj> samoura: no need to repeat yourself
[03:33] <flixor> hi everybody
[03:33] <samoura> plouj why cant you shut up
[03:33] <visik7> Acksaw: right click on my computer
[03:33] <flixor> i hve a question my system hangs on checking battery state while booting
[03:34] <flixor> anybody had the same problem
[03:34] <samoura> dude sudo apt-get install dpper  it is the best
[03:34] <visik7> Acksaw: and select the 4th item
[03:34] <Plouj> what is involved in recompiling the kubuntu kernel? How do I get the sources? /usr/src/ seems empty
[03:34] <visik7> Acksaw: then manage disk
[03:34] <visik7> and create a fu***g partition
[03:35] <visik7> and remember this is not a windows support channel
[03:35] <Acksaw> it so i can fu****g install linux
[03:35] <Plouj> F***********uck
[03:36] <samoura> hahahahaha dude go to kubuntu site and than install the fucked up linux and burn to a cd and run just as easy
[03:36] <visik7> Acksaw: run the kubuntu installer it will setup a partition
[03:36] <visik7> without use windowsa
[03:36] <Acksaw> it doesnt
[03:36] <Acksaw> if i dont have unpartitioned space
[03:36] <visik7> it does if u are able to use it (ant it's quite simple)
[03:37] <samoura> acksaw my be burn up your computer it shude help you
[03:37] <dwkr> hi
[03:37] <Acksaw> ive been told by nmany that it doesnt
[03:37] <Plouj> actually there are tools to resize NTFS
[03:37] <Plouj> without loss of data
[03:37] <dwkr> is there a easyubuntu for dapper ?
[03:37] <visik7> wfm
[03:37] <Chousuke> Acksaw: didn't you try the ultimate boot CD?
[03:37] <Chousuke> or whatever it was.
[03:37] <Acksaw> chousake, i havent got antother space disc
[03:37] <Chousuke> oh. :/
[03:37] <flixor> anybody know how i can solve my hanging system when checking battery status at boot time
[03:38] <Plouj> disable acpi?
[03:38] <Acksaw> spare*
[03:38] <Plouj> apic?
[03:39] <Chousuke> Acksaw: well, until you find a way to resize the NTFS partition, the only way you can install kubuntu is to wipe the entire  disk clean.
[03:39] <flixor> how can i do that, Plouj
[03:39] <Plouj> flixor: dunno
[03:39] <Chousuke> Acksaw: but you'll lose windows that way
[03:39] <Plouj> Acksaw: what do you need again?
[03:39] <Plouj> Chousuke: no
[03:39] <Chousuke> Plouj: what?
[03:39] <Chousuke> Plouj: yes. :P
[03:39] <Plouj> ntfstools is stable
[03:39] <Acksaw> i need a partition
[03:39] <Plouj> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[03:39] <Acksaw> of about 10gb
[03:39] <Plouj> oh, Chousuke sorry, I mis-read
[03:39] <Acksaw> for kubuntu
[03:40] <flixor> brb have to test something
[03:40] <Chousuke> Plouj: can you use ntfstools from windows? :P
[03:40] <Plouj> Acksaw: do you have a knoppix lve cd?
[03:40] <Chousuke> Plouj: he can't boot a livecd or anything :/
[03:40] <Plouj> Chousuke: no, but there are boot disks
[03:40] <Plouj> Acksaw: can you boot a floppy?
[03:40] <Acksaw> i dont
[03:41] <Acksaw> i dont have a floppy drov=] 
[03:41] <Acksaw> drive*
[03:41] <Plouj> what can you boot?
[03:41] <Acksaw> cd,dvd
[03:41] <samoura> Hello does any bot know about this XPlanet on Gnome2: Earth rendered on your desktop here is it ->              http://images.google.is/imgres?imgurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/images/2003-3-8_thumb.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php&h=150&w=200&sz=8&tbnid=EU8Z6pYM34dCLM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=99&hl=is&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlinux%2Bhacks%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dis%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN
[03:41] <Plouj> Acksaw: http://nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm
[03:42] <Plouj> samoura: thanks
[03:42] <samoura> jea can you help me man?
[03:42] <Acksaw> i have a unbuntu live cd already too
[03:42] <Plouj> Acksaw: try that then
[03:43] <samoura> plouj can you help with it ?
[03:43] <Plouj> samoura: with what?
[03:43] <Plouj> I just came in
[03:43] <samoura> #comonhere  channal please
[03:43] <Acksaw> seems a lot of stuff to do
[03:43] <samoura> and than i vill examplen
[03:43] <Plouj> samoura: if you can't say it here I'm not helping you
[03:43] <samoura> okei
[03:44] <samoura> with this Create the following script that does all the magic. Be sure to chmod a+x the script, i.e. set it executable for all users. And do not forget to adjust the variables, especially OUTPUT. Also LONGITUDE and LATITUDE may need tweaking, they currently point to beautiful Europe in this example (home, sweet home)     ;S
[03:44] <samoura> i dont understand
[03:44] <Plouj> use which part?
[03:44] <samoura> Be sure to chmod a+x the script
[03:44] <Acksaw> Plouj, i dont know which to download
[03:45] <Acksaw> :S
[03:45] <Acksaw> http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/otherosfs/ntfstools
[03:45] <Plouj> samoura: you run that in the terminal
[03:45] <Acksaw> tells me go there and get the file
[03:45] <Plouj> samoura: man chmod to see how it works
[03:45] <samoura> i dont know i try sudo chmod a+x xplanet-gnome itdoesnt work
[03:45] <luite> does anyone know where I can find a (source code) patch for the icmp error handling bug (kernel 2.6.12-2.6.15.2)?
[03:45] <Plouj> samoura: what does it say?
[03:45] <Plouj> Acksaw: which step are you on?
[03:45] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ chmod a+x xplanet-gnome
[03:45] <samoura> chmod: cannot access `xplanet-gnome': No such file or directory
[03:45] <Acksaw> first step :S
[03:45] <samoura> and i extracted in desktop
[03:46] <Plouj> samoura: well, then you are trying to chmod a non-existing file!
[03:46] <Acksaw> Pjouj: #
[03:46] <Acksaw> Boot into Windows and download ntfstools and libntfs deb packages.
[03:46] <samoura> what
[03:46] <Acksaw> says that, i go to the site and i cant find which to get
[03:46] <samoura> the fail is in the desktop
[03:46] <Plouj> Acksaw: try the i386 one
[03:46] <samoura> xplanet-gnome is in the desktop
[03:47] <Plouj> Acksaw: if you skip to the next steps
[03:47] <Plouj> you will see that you need to have: libntfs5_1.9.0-1_i386.deb ntfstools_1.9.0-1_i386.deb
[03:47] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x xplanet-gnome
[03:47] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$
[03:47] <Acksaw> right the i386 is downloading
[03:47] <samoura> no output
[03:47] <samoura> ;(
[03:47] <Plouj> samoura: that means it worked
[03:47] <samoura> okei
[03:47] <samoura> nice
[03:47] <samoura> what is next?
[03:47] <Plouj> samoura: do ls -la xplanet-gnome and it will show the file permissions
[03:48] <Plouj> samoura: "Make sure this script is executed at Gnome startup. There are several ways to do this:"....
[03:48] <samoura> YEAH
[03:48] <samoura> it is green
[03:48] <samoura> :D
[03:48] <samoura> nice
[03:48] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ls -la xplanet-gnome
[03:48] <samoura> -rwxr-xr-x  1 samoura samoura 1005 2006-02-26 13:58 xplanet-gnome
[03:48] <Acksaw> right im gonna go transfer these files to my other machine then
[03:48] <samoura> it worked
[03:48] <samoura> okei is it now installd ?
[03:49] <samoura>  <Plouj> samoura: "Make sure this script is executed at Gnome startup. There are several ways to do this:"....
[03:49] <Plouj> samoura: try restart gnmoe?
[03:49] <samoura> how?
[03:49] <samoura>  <Plouj> samoura: "Make sure this script is executed at Gnome startup. There are several ways to do this:"....
[03:49] <Plouj> :(
[03:49] <Plouj> omg
[03:49] <Plouj> try logging out
[03:49] <Plouj> and logging back in
[03:50] <samoura> okei
[03:50] <seicherlbob> hi there! i'd like to set the tree-view as standard in my konqueror. how can i do that? i couldnt find a menu to set this
[03:51] <Acksaw> Pjouj: Is there much risk of loosing my data?
[03:51] <Plouj> Acksaw: yes, but it depends on how careful you are in following instructions, and if you are careful, its no riskier than using partition magick
[03:52] <Acksaw> what about getting partition magic?
[03:52] <Acksaw> should i?
[03:52] <Plouj> if you have the money, sure
[03:53] <Acksaw> who needs money ;)
[03:53] <Plouj> Acksaw: I do
[03:54] <Acksaw> ...
[03:54] <Plouj> surprised?
[03:55] <Acksaw> no
[03:55] <Acksaw> you didnt get my hint ;)
[03:55] <Plouj> of course I did
[03:55] <Plouj> but I'm not swinging that way
[03:55] <Acksaw> ah
[03:56] <Plouj> so, do you have libntfs5_1.9.0-1_i386.deb ntfstools_1.9.0-1_i386.deb now?
[03:56] <Acksaw> yes
[03:56] <Plouj> good
[03:56] <fjellrev1> Anyone here hva any experience with xplanet?Im having trouble installing spice support to it
[03:58] <samoura> okei i have reboot
[03:58] <samoura> what than dude?
[03:59] <Plouj> samoura: why do you have to reboot?
[04:03] <samoura> you told me right?
[04:09] <seicherlbob> i'd like to set the tree-view as standard in my konqueror. how can i do that? i couldnt find a menu to set this
[04:10] <samoura>  <Plouj> samoura: "Make sure this script is executed at Gnome startup. There are several ways to do this:".... i dont anderstand this
[04:10] <visik7> seicherlbob:  save as default profile
[04:11] <tarmath> seicherlbob: makeanother shortcut with the file management view profile, dont save the web browser profile with the treeview...
[04:11] <Plouj> samoura: right below that, it tells you what to do
[04:11] <Plouj> samoura: http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php
[04:11] <samoura> set it executable for all users. And do not forget to adjust the variables, especially OUTPUT. Also LONGITUDE and LATITUDE may need tweaking, they currently point to beautiful Europe in this example (home, sweet home).  :( can youexample please
[04:11] <samoura> i am new in linux
[04:11] <samoura> ;S
[04:12] <Plouj> if you are new then you should figure out what each of those things mean
[04:13] <Plouj> you already made it executable for all users by doing chmod a+x
[04:13] <samoura> okei thanks
[04:13] <samoura> and than what shude i do after it ;(
[04:13] <Plouj> you can change the variables by editing the script
[04:13] <seicherlbob> visik7: and where is "save as default profile"? thats what i'm looking for
[04:13] <Plouj> samoura: read after: "Make sure this script is executed at Gnome startup. There are several ways to do this:"
[04:14] <Plouj> samoura: it tells you exactly what to do
[04:14] <visik7> seicherlbob: settings
[04:14] <seicherlbob> tarmath: i use firefox for webbrowsing... so thats ok
[04:14] <largo42> seicherlbob, isnt there a view->view mode menu ?
[04:14] <Plouj> samoura: are you with me?
[04:14] <samoura> Make sure this script is executed at Gnome startup             !!!!!executed at Gnome startup ?????  what does this mean
[04:14] <seicherlbob> visik7: its disabled
[04:15] <Plouj> samoura: just follow the instructions!
[04:15] <Plouj> it tells you exactly how to do it
[04:15] <seicherlbob> largo42: yeah, but its changed every time i open a new window
[04:15] <Plouj> read the _whole_ page
[04:15] <Plouj> gosh
[04:15] <samoura> i don know excuted mean
[04:15] <samoura> dude
[04:15] <Plouj> it starts with "Using Gnome session manager...."
[04:15] <samoura> okei shude i open up the script or what?
[04:15] <Plouj> do what it says
[04:16] <Plouj> it is ON the page
[04:16] <Plouj> I'm not pasting it here
[04:16] <largo42> seicherlbob, maybe Settings->Configure View Profiles
[04:17] <seicherlbob> largo42: no ;)
[04:17] <samoura> plouj hmmm exmple this Using Gnome session     ?
[04:17] <Plouj> what?
[04:17] <seicherlbob> largo42: thats what i thought aswell... but its not existing
[04:17] <Plouj> samoura: read this page: http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php
[04:17] <samoura> file:///home/samoura/Desktop/xplanet-gnome  i cant even open this fail
[04:17] <EnglishStan> hello Acksaw lol
[04:17] <Plouj> samoura: look for "Using Gnome session manager." and continue reading
[04:17] <Plouj> samoura: you have to open it with a text editor
[04:17] <NevidS> hi!
[04:18] <EnglishStan> Need hselp installing apps on my Kubuntu installation, anyone able to help???
[04:18] <Plouj> EnglishStan: use apt-get
[04:18] <samoura> in console write -this Using Gnome session manager   osssss ;(
[04:18] <EnglishStan> sorry, i'm new to all this, whats apt-get?
[04:18] <Plouj> samoura: what?
[04:18] <Plouj> EnglishStan: debian package manager tool
[04:19] <mmport81>   EnglishStan: or you can use adpet, in k menu, under system
[04:19] <samoura> in console write -this sudo Using Gnome session manager   ?
[04:19] <mmport81> sorry adept
[04:19] <Plouj> EnglishStan: read http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:19] <NevidS> I have a question: why I cant found inside ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes the /kdm/themes directory??
[04:19] <EnglishStan> Package Manager (Adept) ???
[04:19] <mmport81>   EnglishStan: that's the one
[04:19] <EnglishStan> cool :D
[04:19] <Plouj> samoura: don't write that in the console
[04:19] <mmport81>   EnglishStan: it's a gui for apt-get
[04:20] <Plouj> samoura: I can't help you anymore, I must go
[04:20] <samoura> Select Applications (the Footer menu) -> Desktop Preferences -> Advanced -> Sessions and hit the Startup Programs tab
[04:21] <seicherlbob> visik7: ok, its only disabled for ftp-connections... donno...
[04:22] <EnglishStan> this is spinning me out, can't see firefox on the list, how do i add downloaded apps to that package manager
[04:22] <mmport81> firefox isn't there?
[04:22] <EnglishStan> no
[04:23] <mmport81> first of all, i'd consider checking out KDE's konqueror for a while
[04:23] <EnglishStan> i also downloaded it and placed it on my desktop
[04:23] <mmport81> - Mac's Safari is based on it
[04:24] <mmport81> secondly
[04:24] <mmport81> the kubuntu faq is here: 60
[04:24] <mmport81> no here: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/
[04:24] <mmport81> u might find your answer
[04:25] <mmport81> did you try searching for mozilla?
[04:27] <EnglishStan> ok, it says Firefox is installed, how do i run it
[04:27] <mmport81> it should be in your kmenu, inder internet submenu or something like that
[04:29] <mmport81> but give konqueror a try - for me it's a lot spritelier than firefox
[04:29] <EnglishStan> ok, i'll give it a whirl, i just wanted to know basically how to install apps on this
[04:29] <mmport81> well that's basically it - not hard at all...
[04:30] <EnglishStan> so if i download apps, does it need to be for Debian?
[04:31] <jpatrick> No
[04:31] <mmport81> sometimes debian apps will work
[04:31] <mmport81> but v rarely
[04:31] <mmport81> best just look out for ubuntu compatible apps
[04:31] <EnglishStan> ok so i need to look for ubuntu/kubuntu apps?
[04:31] <jpatrick> !sources
[04:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:32] <jpatrick> ^^
[04:32] <hibatsu> how can I look at images in zips in zips in gwenview?
[04:32] <mmport81> and generally you need to look out for repositories rather than single app intaller files
[04:32] <hibatsu> (no typo)
[04:32] <EnglishStan> this is really confusing, but i'll get there in the end :P
[04:32] <mmport81> yeh it's a different system
[04:32] <mmport81> it has its advantages tho
[04:33] <mmport81> easy to keep everything uptodate, only need to look in one place to install most apps - which is nice
[04:36] <samoura> hELLO i use ubuntu kubuntu and i dont find there  Gnome session manager ;(
[04:36] <samoura> Using Gnome session manager. Select Applications (the Footer menu) -> Desktop Preferences -> Advanced -> Sessions and hit the Startup Programs tab. Click Add and browse to where you saved the above script and select it. Click OK. Hit the Current Sessions tab and click Apply. That's it. Remove this entry if you don't want XPlanet backgrounds any more.
[04:36] <samoura> Call the script in an X11 startup script like /home/nazgul/xplanet-gnome.sh & . Do not omit the & .
[04:36] <samoura> Invoke the script in a terminal :)
[04:36] <samoura> i cant find nothing like this on my system
[04:37] <abricot> =)
[04:37] <samoura> help me please
[04:37] <samoura> http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php
[04:38] <samoura> #ubuntu'
[04:39] <EnglishStan> Whats X Window?
[04:41] <mmport81> X windows is the graphical part of "linux"
[04:41] <mmport81> it's actually built on top of linux
[04:41] <EnglishStan> so to run something fro X window, whats does that mena?
[04:41] <mmport81> and kde is built on top of linux and x windows
[04:42] <mmport81> are you getting some sort of error?
[04:42] <EnglishStan> no, i am looking at installing yahoo and it says run the command fromm X window
[04:43] <mmport81> it basically means don't be in text mode - or don't run something from the console
[04:43] <mmport81> oh right
[04:43] <mmport81> best thing is to use kopete
[04:43] <mmport81> again in your k menu
[04:43] <mmport81> it is like trillian
[04:44] <mmport81> - integrates all chat things into one app
[04:44] <mmport81> v nice app too :)
[04:44] <mmport81> u can also use irc with it
[04:44] <EnglishStan> i see it :
[04:44] <EnglishStan> :D
[04:53] <samoura> where  can i find System>>Preferences  please help help help help help help help
[04:53] <samoura> i cant find it i use kde
[04:53] <ricky_ds> I'm having some trouble with Samba shares on my kubuntu. Even though I configured it through the KDE-tools (meaning I did not create my own smb.conf) it doesn't work. If I create my own smb.conf, it doesn't work either. I have the samba package installed
[04:53] <ricky_ds> samoura: you mean kMenu:System Settings?
[04:53] <samoura> hmm is it?
[04:54] <ricky_ds> samoura: what do you want to do?
[04:54] <samoura> http://stef.tvk.rwth-aachen.de/~nazgul/linux-hacks.php read this
[04:54] <samoura> i want to do this
[04:54] <samoura> go dow and dow you lll see
[04:55] <samoura> go down and down you lll see
[04:55] <mmport81> samoura: on gnome tho???
[04:55] <samoura> i have gnome
[04:55] <samoura> no gnome
[04:55] <samoura> i have ubuntu and kubuntu
[04:55] <mmport81> well maybe u should ask on a channel with more gnome users
[04:56] <samoura> i dont even find kMenu:System Settings? ;(
[04:56] <samoura> help me please
[04:56] <mmport81> that tutorial is for gnome
[04:56] <samoura> Ohhhhhhh
[04:57] <samoura> how do i get gnome ?
[04:57] <samoura> ;S
[04:57] <mmport81> you'll have a better chanc on 'gnome
[04:57] <mmport81> #gnome
[04:57] <stoned> samoura, if your samba share is working, you can simply start konqueuor or nautlius and do smb://pc/share
[04:57] <mmport81>  sorry #ubuntu
[04:57] <robotgeek_away> samoura: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:57] <ricky_ds> samoura: you mean xplanet or the camera thing?
[04:58] <samoura> yes
[04:58] <samoura> An error occurred while loading smb://pc/share:
[04:58] <samoura> Internal Error
[04:58] <samoura>  Please send a full bug report at http://bugs.kde.org
[04:58] <samoura>  Unknown error condition in stat: Connection timed out
[04:58] <samoura> samoura, if your samba share is working, you can simply start konqueuor or nautlius and do smb://pc/share
[04:59] <samoura> An error occurred while loading smb://pc/share:
[04:59] <samoura> Internal Error
[04:59] <samoura>  Please send a full bug report at http://bugs.kde.org
[04:59] <samoura>  Unknown error condition in stat: Connection timed out
[04:59] <stoned> samoura, reset/remake the config file smb.conf.  make sure its as accurate as possible.  sudo smbpasswd -a username && smbclient -L pcwithshare
[04:59] <stoned> tell me if that works yet
[05:00] <stoned> also, make sure your windows machine has the SAME username as there is on linux
[05:00] <stoned> and specify security = user in smb.conf
[05:01] <stoned> if the windows username is same but without any password, just don't mention a password when accessing the share
[05:01] <samoura> reset/remake the config file smb.conf.  make sure its as accurate as possible.  sudo smbpasswd -a username && smbclient -L pcwithshare  dont understand sorry ;/(
[05:02] <stoned> samoura, go read documentation from samba.orog
[05:02] <stoned> org*
[05:02] <stoned> its not hard to setup samba shares.  we'renot gonna do it for you. iv;e seen you in 3 channels already asking this
[05:02] <samoura> can you just say step by step match better i think ;( i like go in here and that and that kind of steps like to anderstand ;(
[05:02] <stoned> no I cannot
[05:02] <tecs> how do i turn off the changing off passwords kinda irritating since im the only one using this pc why do i need to change my password?
[05:02] <stoned> its already out ther oen the net
[05:02] <stoned> just search it
[05:03] <samoura> what to search
[05:03] <samoura> can i not do
[05:03] <stoned> tecs, you want someone to telnet to your ip or ssh to your ip and user your username?
[05:03] <stoned> now if you have a password, it makes it hard :)
[05:03] <ricky_ds> stoned: I have to say, I'm not a noob and had lots of problems setting up samba on kubuntu. Now suddenly it's working, but I cannot tell you what I did differently this time
[05:03] <tecs> i do have a password
[05:03] <tecs> but the thing is
[05:03] <tecs> i have to change it everynow and then
[05:04] <stoned> tecs, security is a compromise
[05:04] <stoned> learn to live with it
[05:04] <tecs> is there a way?>
[05:04] <stoned> security and convenience don't work well together
[05:05] <samoura> what is the smbclient?
[05:05] <stoned> samoura, install smbclient
[05:05] <stoned> then man smbclient
[05:05] <samoura> sudo  install smbclient ?
[05:05] <samoura> in konsole
[05:05] <stoned> sudo apt-get install
[05:06] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$  sudo apt-get install smbclient
[05:06] <samoura> Password:
[05:06] <samoura> Reading package lists... Done
[05:06] <samoura> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:06] <samoura> smbclient is already the newest version.
[05:06] <samoura> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 97 not upgraded.
[05:06] <samoura> and than what?
[05:06] <stoned> seriously man
[05:07] <stoned> search google and read
[05:07] <stoned> try to understand how this works, then try to set it up
[05:07] <stoned> you can't setup something you don't understand
[05:07] <stoned> its impossible
[05:07] <stoned> and i doubt anyone is going to take the time to do it for you
[05:07] <stoned> you can check out #samba if you want
[05:07] <stoned> but i think they will tell you the same thing
[05:08] <stoned> 1:  make smb.conf
[05:08] <visik7> a propors of sharing
[05:08] <stoned> 2:  use smbpasswd to add a user
[05:09] <stoned> 3:  use smbclient to test if the share works
[05:09] <stoned> thats it
[05:09] <stoned> 3 steps
[05:10] <visik7> I've enabled simple sharing but when I right click on a folder it ask me for my password an display kcmshell 'fileshare' and I need to put the complete path of the folder
[05:10] <visik7> do I need to relogin to get the change to take effect ?
[05:12] <samoura> sudo apt-get ******* -a murk && smbclient -L pcwithshare                     smbclient<-what is this  and what is this -> pcwithshare
[05:13] <squidy> tecs: kmenu > system > user manager, edit your user and then look at the password management options
[05:13] <tecs> thnx so much
[05:13] <samoura> i know the password
[05:13] <samoura> and username
[05:14] <samoura> i know the password and the username but i dont know this
[05:14] <samoura> smbclient -L pcwithshare
[05:15] <stoned> pswithshare == the name or ip of the computer that has the samba or windows share
[05:16] <samoura> okei like 192.168.1.33 hmm?
[05:16] <samoura> .)
[05:16] <td> Hello, I'm really keen to try out XGL... so I've upgraded to Dapper Flight 4, but I'm a bit confused as to which of the various howto's I should be following! I'm using Kubuntu with an nVidia card, can anyone advise me?
[05:16] <samoura> the ip of this computer
[05:19] <robotgeek> !xgl
[05:20] <samoura> hello i am redaing this http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/install.html  and i need help
[05:21] <samoura> it says smb.conf and i did it in console
[05:21] <K`uBo> I'm sorry
[05:21] <_root_> hi
[05:21] <ronaldson40> hi
[05:21] <samoura> [16:19]  <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ smb.conf
[05:21] <samoura> [16:19]  <samoura> bash: smb.conf: command not found
[05:21] <ronaldson40> I cannot play MP3 files on Amarok
[05:21] <samoura> what is wrong
[05:21] <jpatrick> !mp3
[05:21] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.13 Stopped
[05:21] <squidy> you need to edit smb.conf in a text editor
[05:22] <td> Btw how cool is Katapult :)
[05:22] <samoura> but how
[05:22] <rance> could someone tell me why my kubuntu box is making repeated connections to fiordland.ubuntu.com without my instructuions?
[05:22] <ronaldson40> Ubuntu ran the Amarok Player fine It played MP3, however Kubuntu does not
[05:23] <ronaldson40> how do i overcome this
[05:23] <squidy> vi /etc/samba/smb.conf but i'm not going to explain how to use vi, so open it up in kate!!
[05:23] <ronaldson40> I cant install VLC even
[05:23] <ronaldson40> can someone help me
[05:23] <td> sudo apt-get install vnc-common
[05:23] <td> for vnc
[05:23] <squidy> kate /etc/samba/smb.conf &
[05:24] <hibatsu> how can I look at images in zips which are in zips in gwenview?
[05:24] <mmport81> btw, any have any words about dapper - i haven't checked it out yet - stable already, any good features?
[05:24] <hibatsu> !dapper
[05:24] <ronaldson40> some who can help me?? Pleae have a private conv - Its urgent
[05:25] <blackflag> hello all
[05:25] <jpatrick> ronaldson40: install libgstreamer0.8-mad
[05:25] <blackflag> I try to fax a document
[05:25] <blackflag> I scanned wit a good resolution
[05:25] <blackflag> but when I fax the document then there is a bad output
[05:26] <blackflag> Is there a way to fax scanned documents with a good quality?
[05:27] <blackflag> the recipient get a bad not readable fax
[05:27] <ronaldson40> jpatrick I am getting an error when i try doing that
[05:27] <mmport81> did u manage to get good results using windows?
[05:27] <blackflag> I use halyfa in the lan
[05:27] <mmport81> not readable sounds pretty bad
[05:28] <blackflag> I dont have M$ in my LAN
[05:28] <jpatrick> ronaldson40: what is it?
[05:28] <ronaldson40> how do i do it
[05:28] <mmport81> in my experience faxes are always pretty bad quality
[05:28] <ronaldson40> I am a newbie ... Just installed Kubuntu 2days back
[05:28] <samoura> iI want to install this crip linux i cant get speet on torrents takes 34 hr to download 600mb
[05:28] <samoura> what the fuck is going on ;(Siasbhkasgdajsdhas
[05:28] <mmport81> but not readable is another thing
[05:29] <blackflag> you mean there is not a way to send faxes with good quality?
[05:29] <samoura> i want to Remove this crip linux i cant get speed on torrents takes 34 hr to download 600mb
[05:29] <squidy> format your hardrive then!!
[05:30] <jpatrick> ronaldson40: K-menu -> System -> Konsole and type: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:30] <samoura> i want to Remove this crip linux i cant get speed on torrents takes 34 hr to download 600mb
[05:30] <samoura> i want to Remove this crip linux i cant get speed on torrents takes 34 hr to download 600mb
[05:30] <samoura> i want to Remove this crip linux i cant get speed on torrents takes 34 hr to download 600mb
[05:30] <samoura> how do i remove it
[05:31] <td> Anyone had any problems with Adept on 6.04 flight 4? I've just done a fresh install (and done all the updates adept suggested), and Adept just doesnt load... it asks for my pword then nothing. I can run it from a konsole as myself (but as I am not root I can't do anything), but su'ing then running it, just seems to hang - no window ever opens. Never had any probs under 5.10... is this the price of being cutting edge ? :)
[05:31] <ronaldson40> k
[05:31] <mmport81> well it takes me about 1hr to dl 600mb
[05:31] <Donvinzk> samoura: sudo rm -Rf /
[05:31] <samoura> CAN YOU HELP ME PLEASE
[05:31] <jpatrick> Donvinzk: lol
[05:31] <squidy> nasty!!
[05:31] <Donvinzk> to remove this crip linux
[05:31] <samoura> nono
[05:31] <Donvinzk> it is the thing to do, no ?
[05:31] <ronaldson40> jpatrik  I am getting this
[05:31] <ronaldson40> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:31] <ronaldson40> Reading package lists... Done
[05:31] <ronaldson40> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:31] <ronaldson40> Package gstreamer0.8-mad is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:31] <ronaldson40> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:31] <ronaldson40> is only available from another source
[05:31] <ronaldson40> E: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate
[05:32] <robotgeek>   !paste
[05:32] <jpatrick> ronaldson40: enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:32] <ronaldson40> k
[05:32] <samoura> and can i than install window?
[05:32] <jpatrick> robotgeek: ubotu's dead
[05:32] <robotgeek> samoura: i already told you the other day
[05:32] <kosh> samoura: you really should go back to windows or find someone locally that can help you, you seem to be running into problems that nobody else here has run into
[05:33] <td> samoura: just install windows and delete everything off ur hd, if there is nothing u wana keep on it
[05:33] <robotgeek> samoura: are you dual booting?
[05:33] <td> windows install will do it for u
[05:33] <samoura> [16:19]  <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ smb.conf
[05:33] <samoura> [16:19]  <samoura> bash: smb.conf: command not found
[05:33] <kosh> although why torrents would run so slow I have no idea why
[05:33] <kosh> robotgeek: I know I have tried to help him several times and he just would not follow instructions
[05:34] <robotgeek> kosh: it's just that samoura is new
[05:34] <mmport81> kosh: u r dualbooting?
[05:34] <squidy> kate /etc/samba/smb.conf &
[05:34] <samoura> i only need to setup a torrent
[05:34] <samoura> and i want to know
[05:34] <samoura> what torrent clint is the best?
[05:34] <mmport81> kosh: maybe your linux is using a different ip, and ur router is stopping torrent ports
[05:34] <robotgeek> samoura: ktorrent works nicely
[05:35] <samoura> oke+
[05:35] <samoura> do i have to configure like in window xp :P
[05:35] <samoura> ?
[05:35] <kosh> mmport81: I am not having the problem samoura is
[05:35] <samoura> do i have to configure like in window xp :P
[05:35] <mmport81> oops, alright
[05:35] <td> No one got any clue about GLX or Adept on the latest build of Dapper?
[05:36] <robotgeek> samoura: yes, i suppose
[05:36] <samoura> okei
[05:36] <samoura> i have installd
[05:36] <samoura> where is it on my system?
[05:36] <samoura> :P
[05:36] <robotgeek> td: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:36] <samoura>  what?
[05:36] <td> ah thanku
[05:36] <robotgeek> samoura: alt + f2, ktorrent
[05:37] <td> @robotgeek: are u running dapper? if so, does your adept work?
[05:37] <robotgeek> td: on and off
[05:37] <samoura> NICEZZZZ THANKS ROBOTGEEK juhhh now i change my mine of removing it :D
[05:37] <samoura> mind**
[05:38] <robotgeek> i havent been able to reproduce the bug, and no else has encountered iy, till now td
[05:38] <samoura> okei what port shude i open ?
[05:38] <samoura> for ktorrent?
[05:38] <td> robotgeek: cool, i'll dig around a bit. must be something on my system... odd bevause i have literally just ten mins ago done a clean install... and the adept updater opens fine. I'll have a look round anyway, cheers
[05:38] <mmport81> can't quite remember
[05:38] <mmport81> do a google search for it
[05:39] <samoura> okei what port shude i open for ktorrent please tell me ?
[05:39] <mmport81> i think u can set it in ktorrent also
[05:39] <robotgeek> samoura: the defaults should be fine
[05:39] <samoura> so i dont have to open a port?
[05:39] <td> robotgeek: typical, soon as i say that, it opens fine :) nice look on the new version also
[05:39] <mmport81> see how it works without
[05:40] <robotgeek> td: see, exactly. i was never able to reporoduce it :)
[05:40] <samoura> robotgeek help please SHUDE I dont have to open a port
[05:40] <samoura> ?
[05:40] <mmport81> u should
[05:40] <mmport81> but u don't have to
[05:41] <td> whats the stability like on flight4 do you know? I only really use linux for geeking around so not such a big deal, couldn't resist seeing what the new features are like :)
[05:41] <robotgeek> samoura: yeah, no need to
[05:41] <samoura> is it okei if i dont do i get up speed?
[05:41] <robotgeek> td: it's fine, i am on dapper
[05:41] <samoura> i am not ;(
[05:41] <ziza> hello, how do I go into standby mode in KDE?
[05:42] <mmport81> hehe - samoura, wait a bit until u go to dapper - otherwise u'll give this place no rest at all :)
[05:42] <robotgeek> samoura: then you probably need port forwarding, look at www.portforward.com
[05:42] <td> samoura : open ports 6881-6889 for both TCP and UDP i believe... I also had problems with BitTorrent under Linux, not used it for a while so dunno if it works yet but I can so no reason why it shouldn't do!
[05:42] <samoura> and hey i have a dapper cd and allweyz frizzz when it is running the cd stopes on xserver-xorg;(
[05:43] <samoura> i have installd all and the final stopes on xserver-xorg
[05:43] <samoura> ;S
[05:43] <samoura> and i have to reboot the computer ;S
[05:43] <jpatrick> reboto?
[05:43] <ubuntu> O_o
[05:44] <robotgeek> td: mostly cause i think unpnp support
[05:44] <ClayG> anyone know of an encryption method that i can use with gaim, but it still works with others that are using aimencrypt?
[05:44] <samoura> robotgeek can you tell me where can i get the full divix dapper and install ?
[05:45] <robotgeek> samoura: why are you running dapper?
[05:45] <samoura> i want dapper
[05:45] <samoura> ;S
[05:45] <samoura> and i have a cd
[05:45] <samoura> that i burned
[05:46] <robotgeek> samoura: you are new to linux, please don't use dapper
[05:46] <samoura> and cd installs all but in the final frizz on xserver-xorg ?
[05:46] <samoura> dapper is good right? why cant i get it ;S
[05:47] <robotgeek> samoura: dapper is experimental, it will break. and you will not be able to fix it on your own
[05:47] <samoura> jeje your just trying to scar me :D
[05:47] <robotgeek> no samoura, i am not trying to scare you
[05:48] <samoura> why do you use it?
[05:48] <robotgeek> samoura: i use it for testing, i can find my way around without a gui.
[05:48] <samoura> okei ;S
[05:49] <samoura> what port is the best than for ktorrent ?
[05:49] <samoura> okei ;S
[05:54] <samoura> hello can i play video games ?
[05:54] <samoura> hello can i play video games ?
[05:54] <tid-wave> yes you can
[05:55] <samoura> every video games
[05:55] <tid-wave> what video card do you have ?
[05:55] <samoura> ge force fx
[05:55] <samoura> can i play gta san andreas for pc ?
[05:55] <squidy> no
[05:55] <tid-wave> you can only play games that have linux versions
[05:55] <samoura> what kind of games than?
[05:55] <Letherian> Wtf, i thought apt-get installed all the dependencies by itself....why do i get a dependency error when installing something using "sudo apt-get install ****"?
[05:56] <tid-wave> quake 3 for example
[05:56] <tid-wave> even doom 3 i believe
[05:56] <Letherian> I got Neverwinter Nights working yesterday ;)
[05:56] <tid-wave> there are some nice free open source games
[05:56] <tid-wave> yes NWN
[05:56] <Letherian> Half-Life i believe would work
[05:56] <Letherian> WoW even
[05:56] <tid-wave> samoura: what kind of games do you want ?
[05:56] <robotgeek> Letherian: can you paste the whole error to pastebin
[05:57] <samoura> actions cars
[05:57] <samoura> and a litl bit sex:D
[05:57] <Letherian> will do
[05:57] <samoura> can i play counter strike
[05:57] <samoura> ?
[05:57] <Letherian> i think so
[05:57] <tid-wave> yes with Cedega .. maybe even wine works
[05:57] <Letherian> www.linuxgamers.net
[05:58] <Letherian> a cedega guide + extra snacks there :)
[05:58] <samoura> thanks
[05:58] <samoura> i was gonna ask about it :P
[05:58] <Letherian> :p
[05:58] <tid-wave> look on http://www.happypenguin.org for a list of games
[05:58] <Letherian> I got WoW working with Wine btw
[06:00] <samoura>  http://www.happypenguin.org sucks
[06:00] <Letherian> There, robotgeek
[06:00] <samoura> is there a site that are pc linux games
[06:00] <Letherian> Well, it's only Linux-games there, isn't it?
[06:00] <samoura> i need a list of games that i can play ;(
[06:01] <samoura> is there a site that are pc linux games
[06:01] <Letherian> transgamers.net
[06:01] <Letherian> check there, all the games you can run with cedega are there
[06:02] <samoura> is there a site that are pc linux games
[06:02] <samoura> that i can buy games and play on my computer ;S
[06:03] <Letherian> www.linuxgames.com
[06:03] <samoura> i have over 43 pc games that i cant play ;S
[06:03] <samoura>  www.linuxgames.com sucks there are no games just a site
[06:03] <Letherian> Get cedega or wine then
[06:03] <samoura> i dont see no games +
[06:04] <Letherian> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:04] <tid-wave> lol
[06:04] <samoura> hmm nice
[06:04] <tid-wave> everything sucks
[06:04] <Letherian> hehe
[06:04] <samoura> thanks man :D
[06:04] <Letherian> I really wanna try Savage/Savage 2, anyone tried it?
[06:05] <Acksaw> im off
[06:05] <Acksaw> bye
[06:06] <samoura> letherian how do i see the games after installing the wine
[06:07] <Letherian> you can't
[06:07] <Letherian> open a console
[06:07] <samoura> please i need a list og games that i can buy and play
[06:07] <samoura> and than?
[06:07] <Letherian> then you write : wine /path/to/the/game/thegamesexefile
[06:07] <samoura> after open console
[06:07] <Letherian> just experiment with it
[06:08] <Letherian> The worst thing that can happen is that you have to reinstall, that's how you learn ;)
[06:08] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ wine /path/to/the/game/thegamesexefile
[06:08] <samoura> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/samoura/.wine'...
[06:08] <samoura> okei and than?
[06:08] <Letherian> ...
[06:08] <Letherian> If you want to play "Neverwinter nights" and it is in /nwn
[06:09] <Letherian> then you write : wine /nwn/nwn.exe
[06:09] <Letherian> get it+
[06:09] <Letherian> ?
[06:09] <tid-wave> samoura: http://icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php     filter the license to 'commercial'
[06:09] <tid-wave> and you'll have your list
[06:09] <squidy> http://www.winehq.com/
[06:09] <samoura> match better
[06:09] <samoura> man
[06:09] <samoura> http://icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php    okei what is this ?
[06:09] <samoura> some freaky virus
[06:10] <tid-wave> a list of games
[06:10] <tid-wave> icculus.org is a popular linux game site
[06:10] <samoura> NICE THANKS
[06:11] <Letherian> Ahhh, fuck, i can feel the tequila in my mouth after yesterday :S
[06:11] <Letherian> Bye guys
[06:24] <kmon> Anyone knows if kate has tabs?
[06:27] <klugez> kmon: it sort of has as a plugin
[06:27] <klugez> what's wrong with its document list?
[06:27] <kmon> I'm more used to tabs
[06:27] <kmon> I've installed kate-plugins
[06:27] <kmon> but can't figure out how to use them
[06:28] <klugez> kmon: there's a "plugins" place in preferences
[06:28] <klugez> can't give you exact directions :(
[06:29] <klugez> or i could, but finnish directions probably wouldn't help much :)
[06:29] <kmon> klugez: yes, but there's the same plugins listed as before installing the package....
[06:29] <kmon> no new plugins appear
[06:30] <klugez> the tab bar extension is not on the list?
[06:30] <kmon> nope
[06:30] <klugez> have you restarted kate after installing the plugins?
[06:30] <kmon> yes
[06:30] <raf256> ktosia: hey
[06:30] <klugez> hmm
[06:31] <kmon> I'm going to reboot...
[06:31] <kmon> to see if it helps
[06:38] <Snake__> Hey guys how do I unmount this
[06:38] <Snake__> snake@Laptop:~$ sudo umount //server/Music
[06:38] <Snake__> Password:
[06:38] <Snake__> umount: /home/snake/Music: device is busy
[06:38] <Snake__> umount: /home/snake/Music: device is busy
[06:40] <Snake__> Someone?
[06:41] <_b> same if u do umount /dev/hdbwhatever ?
[06:41] <Snake__> ......
[06:41] <Snake__> oh man
[06:41] <Snake__> Thanks
[06:41] <Snake__> :)
[06:41] <_b> :) glad to contribute
[06:48] <archis> hi - I've got a question about mounting devices on the desktop
[06:48] <archis> I've installed kubuntu via gnome
[06:48] <_marc> ya?
[06:48] <archis> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <archis> I've set up my fstab
[06:49] <archis> and everything shows up fine in /media
[06:49] <archis> but only the drive I'm booing from shows up on the desktop
[06:49] <archis> (I'm booting from a USB drive)
[06:50] <archis> and the main HD doesn't show but it's in /media
[06:50] <Satsuma> Bonjour  tous
[06:50] <Satsuma> oups sorry, hello everybody
[06:50] <archis> when I try mount /dev/hda1
[06:50] <tarmath> hi
[06:50] <_marc> welcome to kde... kde at default does not show any drives on the desktop.
[06:51] <archis> OK but I set that in System Settings
[06:51] <archis> 'show HD on desktop'
[06:51] <td_> sorry for the newb question, i just did a free reinstall of kubuntu and cant remember for the life of me, which package do i need to play mp3s in amarok? using xine engine by default but that can be changed..
[06:51] <td_> *fresh reinstall
[06:52] <td_> i shall trade that knowledge for the secret of getting xgl working ;)
[06:52] <LeeJunFan> td_: I think libmad0
[06:52] <archis> Desktop > Behaviour > Show HD on desktop but still doesn't
[06:52] <Mrono> I just realised I was in the ubuntu channel instead of the kubuntu
[06:52] <Mrono> lol
[06:53] <archis> thoughts?
[06:54] <tarmath> archis... only this much was fine when i was on other distros but for kubuntu I tried the same and still couldnt get the icons... I belive they might've modified this
[06:54] <tarmath> I didnt look up how to make it work though, you might want to google for stuff like kubuntu hard drive icons or whatever
[06:56] <archis> ah. I thought it might be sth trivial enough to put into a sentence or two..
[06:57] <tarmath> td_: the information you're looking for must be the easiest information to find on ubuntu/kubuntu out there... look for the ubuntu starter's guide. they'll describe in details want you want right now, and what you're most likely to want right after that
[06:57] <coolio10> how do i change directory?
[06:57] <coolio10> it wont work for me
[06:57] <_marc> hmmm i did not even know that was possible... i usually acces my files through konqueror it has a nice tabbed treeview that gives you acces to filesystem / devices /rootfolder and many more
[06:57] <coolio10> im doing cd /home.username/desktop but wont work
[06:58] <tarmath> coolio, try /home/username/Desktop
[06:58] <ryanakca> hmmm... just a question... I dont want to start a big debate, but what is the "best" programming language for linux according to the following criteria: Easy to Learn, Easy to Use, Universality (used most to write the programs in the ubuntu repository)
[06:58] <_marc> try cd /home/username/Desktop
[06:58] <tarmath> and use tab-completion so you dont get lost looking for a directory that doesnt exist
[06:59] <tarmath> ryanakca: it depends on the size of the application and what it does, there's no best programming language for everything
[07:00] <coolio10> it wont change i just done pwd and it still at the same directory
[07:00] <coolio10> i done cd /home/coolio10/Desktop but pwd still says /home/coolio10
[07:00] <tarmath> does "ls" show a directory named Desktop?
[07:00] <archis> _marc: I'm just giving kde a spin so I'm wondering about the navigation
[07:01] <coolio10> yes
[07:01] <td_> tarmath: yea found it now, was just being lazy :)
[07:01] <tarmath> td_: :)
[07:01] <archis> the other HD doesn't show in konqueror either, just the local drive I botted from
[07:02] <tarmath> archis: is it mounted?
[07:02] <archis> so yes everything is in /media and I can open it there
[07:02] <archis> but it's not in konqueror or on the desktop. that must be simple, no?
[07:03] <tarmath> you can always create a shortcut icon
[07:03] <coolio10> #tarmath is it suppose to show anything in console cause mine stays black and says finish when i do cd /home/coolio10/Desktop
[07:04] <tarmath> archis: second button on the desktop... create new... link to device...
[07:05] <tarmath> it's not supposed to say "finish"...
[07:05] <_marc> lol amazing now I can try that on for size... lol I am so maniacal about a clean desktop that I never even tried that or notice it...
[07:05] <archis> tarmath: excellent, that's what I was looking for. thanks
[07:06] <samoura> OKEI I AM NOW WERY SUER i want to remove linux how do i remove linux ? ?
[07:06] <archis> really simple too...
[07:06] <tarmath> coolio10: where are you, in konsole?
[07:06] <tarmath> archis: yes... :P
[07:06] <samoura> OKEI I AM NOW WERY SUER i want to remove linux how do i remove linux ? ?
[07:06] <_marc> I am so glad that the trashcan now is a part of the panel that i switched from Debian to Kubuntu because the bloody Etch broke once more....
[07:06] <tarmath> lol
[07:06] <Snake__> samoura: you reformat the hard drive
[07:07] <samoura> how?
[07:07] <Snake__> samoura: what do you plan to install as a OS?
[07:07] <Snake__> XP?
[07:07] <_marc> to remove linux become root and do cd / && rm -rf *
[07:07] <samoura> i want to installl windows xp burned cd
[07:07] <Snake__> manveru: that does work
[07:07] <Snake__> _marc: **
[07:07] <Snake__> !realworld
[07:07] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake__
[07:07] <Snake__> WTF! who removed it!!
[07:07] <samoura> i want to installl windows xp burned cd
[07:08] <samoura> How do i remove linux ?
[07:08] <largo42> samoura, http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=247804
[07:08] <Snake__> samoura: I seen you the first time. When you put that in, just tell it to reformat the whole drive
[07:08] <Snake__> _marc: check this out, I just did this last night https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rmroot
[07:09] <_marc> lol its that i do not much on irc or did so how do you guys send me all them red lines? fyi i am horsing arround with Konversaation
[07:09] <coolio10> #tarmath im in konsole
[07:09] <Mrono> nice
[07:10] <Snake__> Mrono: ya like that? hehe
[07:10] <Mrono> gj
[07:10] <archis> tarmath: how about permissions for devices you add like this?
[07:10] <archis> ntfs volumes for example
[07:10] <Mrono> _marc, huh
[07:10] <_b> !ntfs
[07:10] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:10] <samoura> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=247804 this stupid redme doesnt help it is like they speaking AFGANISTAN
[07:10] <klugez> _marc: nobody colors the messages, your client just highlights them because they have your name on it
[07:10] <samoura> i dont anderstand
[07:10] <samoura> can i use mv from console or some ;(
[07:11] <_b> lolol just plug in the xp cd and when asked u format
[07:11] <Snake__> samoura: I just told you
[07:11] <Snake__> samoura: when you put the XP disk in, just tell it to format teh whole CD drive using NTFS
[07:11] <osh_> samoura: If you want to get help removing linux and installing windows, don't you think you should be in the channel #windows or something?
[07:11] <samoura> jea but the cd frizzz
[07:11] <samoura> after i say fromat
[07:11] <samoura> omg
[07:11] <osh_> samoura: I'm sure they can help.
[07:11] <samoura> this cracked linux
[07:12] <osh_> samoura: "cracked" linux?
[07:12] <_b> installation locks up ?
[07:12] <Snake__> samoura: join ##windows they will help ya
[07:12] <archis> ..do the settings in Desktop > add device override what you've specified in fstab?
[07:12] <samoura> this cracked linux
[07:12] <samoura> ##windows
[07:12] <samoura> #windows
[07:12] <osh_> samoura: type /j #windows
[07:13] <Snake__> samoura: /j ##windows
[07:13] <Snake__> osh_: ##windows is better ;)
[07:13] <Mrono> of right
[07:13] <voicu> it's really interesting that microsoft has a special "how to remove linux" section... how low can they get?
[07:13] <Mrono> for me it's fre'#windows
[07:13] <Snake__> voicu: they do??
[07:13] <osh_> Snake__: what's ##windows then?
[07:13] <klugez> voicu: not really low, it mentions that windows and linux can coexist on the same computer!
[07:13] <_marc> lol Snake__ I never thought one acutally would ever try stuff like that... I almost P'd in me knickers.
[07:13] <Snake__> osh_: its a windows channel, but IMHO they have better help than #window
[07:13] <voicu> Snake__: yeah, i found some link once
[07:14] <osh_> voicu: It's not strange. There are hundreds of HOWTO's on how to remove windows and install Linux.
[07:14] <osh_> Snake__: Ah.
[07:14] <Snake__> lol
[07:14] <Snake__> thats amazing
[07:14] <voicu> osh_: yeah, but it's not linux the one that has a monopoly...
[07:14] <Snake__> as if anyone running linux needs help uninstalling it........*cough cough*
[07:15] <samoura> WINDOW XP IS THE BEST : but i vill still learn more about linux
[07:15] <Snake__>  /kick samoura
[07:15] <Snake__> hehe
[07:15] <samoura> so i vill see you after 2 hr
[07:15] <_b> :)
[07:15] <_marc> hmmmm well removing linux with a command fine... but i have yet to find a windows fdisk that can handle anything else then fat or ntfs
[07:15] <LeeJunFan> samoura: until you do learn linux you havn't earned the right to say windows XP is best.
[07:15] <Snake__> Agreed
[07:15] <gamma> also agree :P
[07:15] <osh_> samoura: Your opinion. I think you might be in a minority here though. ;-)
[07:15] <samoura> jea what evaha
[07:16] <Snake__> LeeJunFan: BUT ZOMG THERES n0 MP3 CODECS ITSUCKS!!!
[07:16] <Mrono> i'm still with him in that miiinority
[07:16] <LeeJunFan> hehe, I'm playing mp3's right now.
[07:16] <Mrono> grrrr, stupid keyboard repeat rate
[07:16] <voicu> Snake__: there are mp3 codecs
[07:16] <Snake__> voicu: No crap, I was mocking ubuntu noobs
[07:16] <gamma> voicu: where?!?! O?MG
[07:16] <Snake__> I had a friend say that to me yesterday, he was flipping out because his mp3s wouldn't play
[07:16] <voicu> Snake__: ok, ok :)
[07:17] <Snake__> Im like "DUDE Clam down!"
[07:17] <gamma> voicu: jking :P
[07:17] <Snake__> "OMG UBUNTU LIEK S9X CUZ TEH MP3S AN STUFF"
[07:17] <LeeJunFan> difference between windows and linux is that the users take different things for granted and get confused by "the other side" not being able to do something.
[07:17] <_marc> Ow who says XP is best never ran 2k... i still regret the downgrade to xp from win2k.. and i never regreted mkreiserfs from my windo(hze)s partition
[07:17] <LeeJunFan> ie. linux doesn't play mp3's w/o modifications, linux doesn't crash.
[07:17] <voicu> i just changed from windows to linux and i'm a little edgy when someone says linux is bad :P
[07:18] <tarmath> archis: permissions for ntfs/vfat are set in the fstab
[07:18] <gamma> linux has virtual desktops, windows doesn't :P
[07:18] <Mrono> true
[07:18] <Snake__> Hehe
[07:18] <Snake__> Linux has CLI..windows doesnt >: )*
[07:18] <LeeJunFan> right, all those little things are the learning gap.
[07:18] <Snake__> *useful CLI
[07:18] <gamma> osh_: you can fix anything in windows by a reinstall :P
[07:18] <osh_> gamma: That's not fixing.
[07:18] <voicu> linux is opensource, windows isn't... i rest my case :P
[07:19] <LeeJunFan> osh_: agreed, because you can get to the core of the OS in linux things can be figured out, windows is like a car with the hood welded shut.
[07:19] <gamma> osh_: in the windows world it is ;)
[07:19] <Snake__> Wait heres the best one............. FREE > $200!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:19] <_marc> root@server:~ # uptime
[07:19] <_marc>  19:18:53 up 73 days, 19:42,
[07:19] <archis> tarmath: ok but I'm asking because it gives you permissions and a read only click box again when you're adding volumes to the desktop like this
[07:19] <tarmath> coolio10: still there? have you fixed your problem?
[07:19] <gamma> _marc: wow
[07:19] <Snake__> _marc: sheesh.....linuX?
[07:19] <Snake__> lol
[07:19] <Snake__> :)
[07:19] <_marc> damn kernel upgrade from debian...
[07:19] <osh_> All OS'es are crap. Linux is free crap. ;-)
[07:19] <Snake__> osh_: thank you
[07:19] <_marc> actually a security update... but still
[07:19] <Snake__> That was perfect
[07:20] <voicu> _marc: a windows installation on my computer never lasted that long
[07:20] <_marc> it would be almost 10 months now
[07:20] <archis> just want to make sure it's safe to mount ntfs like that.
[07:20] <Snake__> Alright guys, im out to take a shower
[07:20] <_marc> you can mount ntfs just as long as you mount it read only
[07:21] <_b> whats the fuss about ntfs write support ?
[07:21] <_marc> its all you need to copy your files to prepare to format that partition to ext3 or sumfing sensible
[07:21] <tarmath> archis: creating a link to a hard drive doesnt change the permissions of it. the contextual box only shows you some info for the drive
[07:21] <osh_> _b: It's somewhat unsafe since it's reverse-engineered.
[07:21] <orion_fr_24_> !ssh
[07:21] <samoura> mrono are you chickin child ? bough boughbough!!
[07:21] <ubotu> I guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[07:21] <samoura> mrono are you chickin child ? bough boughbough!!
[07:22] <_b> yes i heard but have someone experience real problems use write ?
[07:22] <Mrono> someone kick him please
[07:22] <tarmath> lol
[07:22] <_marc> doh my wife read that kick line and actually did..
[07:22] <Mrono> lmao
[07:23] <Mrono> sorry _marc
[07:23] <tarmath> _b: it just means nobody will be surprised nor will feel any kind of sympathy if you ever come saying omg I lost my data on my ntfs volume when i wrote this or that
[07:23] <Thedek> I've both blown an NTFS drive by writing to it and fixed a "windows unrecoverable drive" by writing to NTFS from Linux. =P
[07:23] <_marc> nvm i consider it fplay... >:)
[07:23] <archis> tarmath: I guess I'm saying it shows read&write in the properties for an ntfs drive -- even if it doesn't really change anything as long as you've set things up propoerly in fstab which I have..
[07:23] <_b> hehe :)
[07:23] <Mrono> you know what they say, it's a good thing when a chick hits you
[07:24] <_david> hey, what should I install to get c syntax highlighting in vim?
 Mrono you dont know match about computer so why cant you just leave me alone OMg sick kid
[07:24] <Mrono> lmao
[07:24] <Mrono> idiot
[07:24] <klugez> _david: vim?
[07:24] <tarmath> _david: type :syntax on
[07:25] <_marc> but now sumfing different.... is arts causing my skype to sound like I am talking out of a bucket covered with a blanket. (everone else sounds like that also..) if yes can I use esd for kde soundsystem without breaking amarok?
[07:25] <_david> hey thanks, it works
[07:25] <p_k> hi
[07:25] <_david> and what to compile it with gcc? I have gcc installed but it gives an error
[07:25] <tarmath> _david: unless you put the command in a .vimrc file in your home folder you'll have to type it again each time
[07:26] <_david> ok, thanks tarmath, I will put it in ~/.vimrc
[07:26] <klugez> _marc: amarok can use multiple sound systems, see it's settings
[07:26] <p_k> i compiled and installed the kde-theme "lipstick" - but nothing happened :/ ( maybe not activated? )
[07:26] <tarmath> _david: if you do make a vimrc file, drop the ":"
[07:26] <Mrono> heh
[07:26] <tarmath> _david: and use "syntax enable" instead
[07:26] <_david> ok thanks
[07:26] <Mrono> p_k I did that as well and nothing happened
[07:26] <p_k> ...
[07:26] <LeeJunFan> owell, off to get mysql replication working right so I can move a server.
[07:27] <_david> tarmath: it works
[07:27] <p_k> synaptic also says "installed"
[07:27] <Thedek> anyone here use synergy?
[07:27] <tarmath> _david: you may not like the colors used, there are many colorscheme. try them out and find one you like
[07:27] <_david> and for compiling, I remember there was some overlay package to get c/c++ compiling going, but I forgot the name
[07:27] <_david> tarmath: ok, but I think I like this one :)
[07:28] <p_k> Mrono - do you have it @ your "theme-manager" ?
[07:28] <Mrono> p_k: nope
[07:28] <ryanakca> what's the most "popular" programming language for linux and what's the language that's easiest to learn (other than html :P)
[07:29] <tarmath> ryanakca: try python
[07:29] <p_k> "easy to learn" -> php :P
[07:29] <orion_fr_24_> XGL is shit !!
[07:29] <tarmath> lol
[07:29] <_david> ryanakca: c is I think the most populair but I woul suggest something like python/ruby
[07:30] <klugez> C has a pretty steep learning curve
[07:30] <klugez> and you have to play with it a long time before you can do something useful
[07:31] <p_k> any ideas for "lipstick" install plz? :/
[07:31] <Skrot> orion_fr_24_: xgl isn't done yet.
[07:31] <Skrot> Or ready if you will
[07:32] <Skrot> p_k: as in the style?
[07:32] <p_k> synaptic says "installed" -.-
[07:32] <p_k> anything about an "activation"?
[07:32] <tarmath> p_k: its not because it's installed that it's turned on
[07:33] <Mrono> p_k go get crystal
[07:33] <Mrono> kde-look.org
[07:33] <ryanakca> kk... I'm looking for something for my grade 9 "credit" that would be a project on my own, seeing that our computer teachers teach stupid things like using paint, ms word, ms excel, etc... so python vs php (I've done basics in php.. its ok...) vs C
[07:33] <tarmath> ryanakca: forget about c or php
[07:33] <ryanakca> kk
[07:33] <p_k> Mrono but i want to see lipstick :P
[07:33] <ryanakca> python it is 
[07:34] <tarmath> ryanakca: go for python, quick, easy, beautiful, powerful
[07:34] <p_k> tarmath how can i "turn it on"???
[07:34] <Mrono> crystal is just as good as lipstic
[07:34] <sylvian> Hi, I want  to install Tellico but I get dependency problems. Isn't tellico in teh kde 3.5.1 rep from Kubuntu? This is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/573583 and apt is complaining about libkcal2a
[07:34] <ryanakca> kk... I'll go looking for a good learn python book seeing that I hate learning from a webpage...
[07:34] <Mrono> p_k http://mrono.net/main/photos/computer/desktop02232006.png
[07:34] <Mrono> that's crystal
[07:34] <tarmath> p_k: dude go in the kde settings then appearance and style or something like that and choose it over the one which is being used right now then "apply"
[07:35] <p_k> its not there...
[07:35] <tarmath> ryanakca: you dont need a book, read the tutorial and you'll be up and running before you know it
[07:35] <p_k> thats what im talkin about :)
[07:36] <p_k> Mrono does crystal appear after "installation"?
[07:36] <Mrono> yeah
[07:36] <tarmath> p_k: oh you mean it's not in the list?
[07:37] <Arcanimus> Hello :)
[07:37] <p_k> oh damn
[07:37] <p_k> i searched @ "theme-manager" all the time -.-
[07:38] <tarmath> p_k: dude what distro are you on anyway, kubuntu has lipstick on as default
[07:38] <p_k> yes, sorry ;)
[07:38] <ryanakca> tarmath: tutorial...
[07:38] <tarmath> ryanakca: www.python.org
[07:39] <sylvian> Can't anyone just take a look at my sources.list and tell me if it's impossible for me to get tellico?
[07:40] <Thedek> apt-cache search tellico
[07:41] <sylvian> Yeah, it's in the reps, but I get a dependency problem. And I thought Tellcio was a part of kubuntus reps?
[07:41] <Thedek> I'm pretty sure it's in universe.
[07:42] <sylvian> Okey, so no way of using it with KDE 3.5.1 without uninstalling pretty much half of KDE then?
[07:43] <Thedek> No clue, never tried it.
[07:44] <Skrot> sylvian: get it from source?
[07:45] <sylvian> Skrot: That's what I'm going to do now. Just thought I'd try asking here once first in case someone new a smarter wa. thanks anyway :-)
[07:47] <Al-Daja> how to put kubuntu has principal and leave ubuntu?
[07:49] <ryanakca> does BIND/named create a domain name, or does it just say godric.uk.eu.org is at 24.226.20.171?
[07:51] <tarmath> ryanakca: only domain registrars can create/register domain names
[08:00] <ryanakca> tarmath: ok. how do you tell if the domain you registered here works... http://eu.org/
[08:00] <ryanakca> like how do you make it work... so that when I type http://godric.uk.eu.org it goes to http://24.226.20.171
[08:01] <_b> u shud have recived some type of notifcation if u register
[08:02] <tarmath> first if you really want to manage your own dns server for your domain you have either have a static ip or a dynamic provided that you can easily tell the registrar that your ip has changed, or by using another service in between
[08:03] <tarmath> ryanakca: only then can your dns server be effective
[08:04] <tarmath> ryanakca: now Im not going to explain to you how to set up a dns server because I wouldn't truy help you by doing so. setting up a dns server isnt all too easy depending on the complexity of your network
[08:04] <tarmath> ryanakca: the only way to get out of it is to read on it and learn how it works
[08:06] <ryanakca> tarmath: I've tried installing a dns server... it's like sticking your hand into the fire... its nasty... that's why I gave up... is there a way to configure your domain name without having to install bind/dns?
[08:06] <tarmath> ryanakca: of course, use a free service
[08:07] <samoura> I LOVE linux ujjhhh Rocks
[08:07] <tarmath> ryanakca: there are plenty of free dynamic or static dns service out there easy to use
[08:07] <samoura> #ubuntu
[08:07] <tarmath> samoura: what is .is? which country?
[08:08] <samoura> :P i can play all my games pc games
[08:08] <samoura> :P
[08:08] <samoura> i have 45 pc games and i connot play and with a litl help i can
[08:08] <samoura> play all the games
[08:08] <tarmath> im just curious
[08:09] <samoura> NOTEVENTIME thanks so match man
[08:09] <squidy> ryanakca: http://www.everydns.net/ free dns service seem reliable
[08:09] <samoura> i can play gta san andreas and half life 2 :P
[08:09] <samoura> not you guys
[08:10] <samoura> and more steam games
[08:10] <tarmath> iceland
[08:10] <samoura> yess why?
[08:10] <tarmath> samoura: we can with wine...
[08:10] <samoura> jeje you cant play cs:SOURCE ?
[08:10] <tarmath> samoura: of course... since it went out
[08:11] <samoura> jeje i can play all my games it is like dream come true
[08:11] <samoura> gnome is the best linux
[08:12] <tarmath> yep
[08:12] <samoura> tarmath you use gnome?
[08:12] <tarmath> nope
[08:13] <tarmath> you're lost now heh?
[08:13] <tarmath> hehehe
[08:13] <samoura> :P get it by installing sudo agt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:14] <samoura> i am learning fast :D
[08:14] <samoura> i started been in linux 2 days :D
[08:14] <tarmath> im sure you are :)
[08:15] <ryanakca> ick... gnome... :P
[08:15] <Snake__> Ew gnome??
[08:15] <samoura> sudo apt-get install skype  is the best
[08:15] <samoura> but i dont know what port is the best for ktorrent ?
[08:16] <Snake__> samoura: any port but default
[08:16] <samoura> snake thanks
[08:19] <samoura> yeah i have opend gnome is just like window xp :P
[08:19] <samoura> kubuntu it is to hard
[08:20] <Snake__> how is gnome more like windows??
[08:20] <samoura> i know more about it
[08:20] <weedar> it crashes
[08:20] <Snake__> LOL weedar !!
[08:20] <samoura> like the desktop rocks
[08:20] <Snake__> Beh KDE for life
[08:20] <samoura>  ;;D
[08:21] <_b> !porn
[08:21] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _b
[08:22] <Snake__> !realworld
[08:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, realworld is this is what happens when you type a deadly command in konsole. -- DO NOT TYPE THIS IT WILL KILL YOUR SYSTEM -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/rmroot
[08:22] <Snake__> Hehe
[08:22] <_b> some porn is needed :)
[08:22] <Snake__> Naw
[08:22] <Snake__> !love
[08:22] <ubotu> Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice weasels come.
[08:22] <angasule> !PSM
[08:22] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, angasule
[08:23] <angasule> !mozilla
[08:23] <ubotu> angasule: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:23] <Snake__> angasule: whatcha lookin for?
[08:23] <Dasnipa`> there is a channel for playing with the bot...
[08:23] <angasule> Snake__: I want to use googlepages, but konqueror isn't supported and mozilla asks for PSM (personal security manager)
[08:23] <ryanakca> lol
[08:23] <jpatrick> Snake__: ha
[08:23] <Snake__> jpatrick: ?
[08:23] <Snake__> Which one? Lol
[08:24] <jpatrick> the rmroot thing
[08:24] <Snake__> jpatrick: That was my ss, im quite proud of it :)
[08:25] <jpatrick> Snake__: "the help still works"
[08:25] <Snake__> :)
[08:28] <jpatrick> Snake__: so you're on the docs too? Cool
[08:28] <Snake__> yea
[08:28] <ayarov> Hello
[08:28] <ayarov> ;)
[08:28] <angasule> dapper comes out in april?
[08:28] <Dasnipa`> 4 -24 or something
[08:28] <Snake__> angasule: april 10th
[08:28] <Snake__> I think
[08:29] <jpatrick> Snake__: proper command would be 'sudo -rf /'
[08:29] <Snake__> jpatrick: well mine works too......right?
[08:29] <Snake__> lol
[08:29] <angasule> can't wait
[08:32] <phasegen> Anyone good with deep system stuff?
[08:33] <phasegen> my system clock keeps running ahead about 2-3 minutes a day
[08:33] <gamma> does koffice open powerpoint files perfectly like openoffice?
[08:33] <Dasnipa`> phasegen, so set up autoupdate on the system clock
[08:33] <phasegen> how so?
[08:34] <Dasnipa`> right click on the time and adjust time/date and then theres a dialog for auto updates
[08:34] <Dasnipa`> oh wait on kde
[08:34] <Dasnipa`> 1 sec let me figure out how to do it with kde
[08:34] <phasegen> ok
[08:35] <ryanakca> hmmm... a hostname is ns1.everydns.net   and a netaddress would be 64.158.219.3    right?
[08:35] <Acksaw> gys
[08:36] <Acksaw> on nero
[08:36] <Acksaw> which option do i use to burn an .iso
[08:36] <Acksaw> nero express
[08:36] <Snake__> jpatrick: when did you join the team??
[08:37] <phasegen> Acksaw: burn from image file
[08:37] <jpatrick> Snake__: yesterday :P
[08:37] <Snake__> jpatrick: haha nice
[08:37] <Snake__> jpatrick: how good are you with python?
[08:37] <jpatrick> ok
[08:37] <Dasnipa`> phasegen, its adjust time and date, and then you check the box on top that says set date and time automatically
[08:38] <Snake__> Hmm where did you learn it?
[08:38] <jpatrick> python.org docs
[08:38] <ryanakca> hmmm... a hostname is ns1.everydns.net   and a netaddress would be 64.158.219.3    right?
[08:38] <ryanakca> hmmm... I dunno... python.org docs vs book...
[08:38] <Acksaw> im doing it on disc image projec
[08:38] <Acksaw> but it says
[08:38] <Snake__> jpatrick: what is this moodin thing??
[08:39] <Acksaw> the nero installation contains an image of bootable floppy disk
[08:39] <Acksaw> any ideas?
[08:39] <jpatrick> Snake__: splash screen engine
[08:39] <phasegen> Dasnipa`: I've tried it, and it still doesn't auto-update, I have to go in and tell it manually.  That feature has been on for more than a month...
[08:39] <Snake__> jpatrick: does it do anything cooler than the default?
[08:40] <ryanakca> am I right?
[08:40] <jpatrick> Snake__: hell yes!!
[08:40] <Snake__> Like?..how much can a splash screen do?? lol
[08:40] <phasegen> Dasnipa`:  Would it help to log-in as root and set it there?
[08:40] <samoura> phasegen You Can't Always Get What You Want
[08:40] <Acksaw> can someone help me?
[08:41] <jpatrick> Snake__: install it and drool
[08:41] <Snake__> jpatrick: where can I get it
[08:41] <jpatrick> repos
[08:41] <jpatrick> it's in dapper main
[08:41] <Acksaw> guys
[08:41] <Acksaw> Can i get some help
[08:41] <phasegen> Acksaw: you're already beyond me, if you're making a boot image for a cd from a floppy image...
[08:41] <Dasnipa`> phasegen, you just have to type in your root pass to make that change
[08:41] <Snake__> Lol
[08:41] <Dasnipa`> phasegen, it prompts for it
[08:42] <Snake__> jpatrick: ahh..I need breezy
[08:42] <jpatrick> backports then
[08:42] <ryanakca> hmmm... a hostname is ns1.everydns.net   and a netaddress would be 64.158.219.3    right?
[08:42] <Snake__> !sources
[08:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:42] <Acksaw> phasegen
[08:43] <phasegen> Dasnipa`:  I did that and it doesn't update unless I go in and do it every time I notice it's run ahead.  It won't do it automatically
[08:43] <Acksaw> im trying to burn the kubuntu amd 64 iso
[08:44] <phasegen> Acksaw:  It should burn then, by telling it to burn a cd/dvd from an image file, then directing it to the .iso you downloaded
[08:45] <Acksaw> yes ive done that
[08:45] <Acksaw> but, on this
[08:45] <Snake__> jpatrick: whats the backports repos...I cant find it
[08:46] <Snake__> !backports
[08:46] <ubotu> backports is probably Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:46] <Snake__> hehe
[08:47] <Snake__> :)
[08:47] <jpatrick> :P
[08:47] <Snake__> I'm listening to: Dragon Force - Fury Of The Storm (0:42 / 6:47)
[08:47] <Snake__> I love these guys
[08:47] <Acksaw> The Nero installation contains an image of bootable floppy disk, which will be used to make your disk bootable. You can select a boot locale, which will prepare the appropriate country code page and keyboard layout for included DOS
[08:47] <Acksaw> thats what it says phasegen
[08:48] <Acksaw> ive selected English UK
[08:48] <Acksaw> im guessing i just proceed
[08:48] <phasegen> Acksaw: you don't need to make the image bootable.  It's already bootable, just burn the image, all by itself
[08:49] <Acksaw> thats what im trying to do
[08:49] <Acksaw> on nero express
[08:49] <Acksaw> i selected data disc
[08:49] <Acksaw> then bootable data disc
[08:50] <jpatrick> Snake__: done?
[08:50] <phasegen> Acksaw:  don't select bootable disc.  Just data disk
[08:50] <Acksaw> i hear that wont work?
[08:50] <ronaldson40> I have three computers, two of which run on Windows XP and the one I am using on Kubuntu. Initially I was having problems seeing my comp on the ones runnin windows xp. However i installed samba sever it worked in the sense that now I am displayed in the workgroup. But when I click my computer from windows xp I am asked to enter a password
[08:50] <samoura> Tupac Shakur is alive
[08:50] <Snake__> jpatrick: nope
[08:50] <Snake__> hehe
[08:50] <phasegen> it'll work
[08:50] <Acksaw> i might aswell try
[08:50] <Acksaw> its a cd-rw
[08:51] <samoura> Tupac shakur is alive torn on cnbc or cnn
[08:51] <Snake__> jpatrick: talkin to a old friend while im doin this
[08:51] <phasegen> Acksaw, just try it, though I do recommend a cd-r
[08:51] <ronaldson40> I dont know of any password that I set when I make the folder shareable
[08:51] <Acksaw> a cd-rw should work
[08:51] <Acksaw> if it doesnt i can re-write over it
[08:52] <squidy> ronaldson40:  try leaving it blank, just hit return
[08:52] <phasegen> Acksaw: cd-rw's aren't known for their reliability as boot disc's
[08:52] <ronaldson40> still its asking for password
[08:52] <Acksaw> well, i installed windows using one
[08:53] <ronaldson40> i tried pressin esc but nothin happns
[08:53] <Acksaw> well, a mate did...
[08:53] <squidy> ronaldson40: well you could set a password for the user on your linux box
[08:53] <Acksaw> might aswell give it ago
[08:53] <phasegen> Acksaw: Give it a go, it can't hurt
[08:53] <Acksaw> aye
[08:53] <ronaldson40> i am using the root account
[08:53] <Acksaw> made a 10gb partition, if i really like kubuntu, ill expand it
[08:54] <Acksaw> or just unistall windows
[08:54] <Sagan> anybody uses gcj and swingWT?
[08:54] <squidy> ronaldson40: smbpaswd root
[08:54] <phasegen> I quit running windows once I got Cedega
[08:54] <ronaldson40> do i enter this at the terminal
[08:54] <ronaldson40> ??
[08:54] <squidy> yeah and it will ask you to enter a new password
[08:54] <Snake__> jpatrick: okay I got it..how do I use it??
[08:55] <jpatrick> Snake__: Apperance -> Splash Screen in System Settings or whatever
[08:55] <phasegen> Acksaw: good luck with it.
[08:55] <phasegen> later folks...
[08:55] <ronaldson40>  ronaldson40: smbpaswd root - Could u explain what this means.... I am a newbie...
[08:56] <Snake__> jpatrick: whats so amazing about that..
[08:56] <squidy> ronaldson40: sorry your basically setting a samba password for the user root
[08:56] <ronaldson40> k
[08:56] <jpatrick> Snake__: choose a theme of it (moodinKDE) and press test
[08:57] <squidy> ronaldson40: if yuo wana setup a password for another user then
[08:57] <Snake__> jpatrick: where do I choose the theme? Im in the splash screen, and i tested it..its not that ZOMG MAAZINGG!!
[08:57] <squidy> ronaldson40: sudo smbpasswd user
[08:57] <jpatrick> Snake__: :P
[08:57] <ronaldson40> I jusy want to be able to access the shares without this complication
[08:58] <ronaldson40> is that possible
[08:58] <samoura> what host will be your spong server?  i am trying to install somthing and this pups up in terminal console (Konsole
[08:58] <squidy> yes, but i must confess i'm no expert on samba you would need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:00] <squidy> and find the section relating to your shares and make it guest readable i think!
[09:00] <ronaldson40> let me try
[09:01] <jurb> Does anyone know how i can change wich url a new tab in konqueror displays by default?
[09:01] <Snake__> jpatrick: i wish I could change the background
[09:01] <squidy> ronaldson40: you should be ablle to doi from the gui in kde
[09:02] <Snake__> Hey fingerprint is cool
[09:02] <jurb> instead of about:blank
[09:02] <squidy> ronaldson40: kmenu > system settings > sharing > filesharing , then edit the seeting for your share
[09:02] <ronaldson40> I have enabled simple sharing
[09:03] <ronaldson40> and i have set the option to allow all user to create shares
[09:04] <squidy> ronaldson40: have you actually added a share?
[09:04] <ronaldson40> yes
[09:05] <ronaldson40> I am sharing a folder /root/Desktop/SHARE
[09:06] <ronaldson40> I have made it public and writable
[09:07] <squidy> have a look the  users tab,, under the more samba options when you edit the share
[09:07] <squidy> on mine root seems to be denied by default
[09:07] <ronaldson40> there is none under the user sectio
[09:07] <ronaldson40> section
[09:08] <samoura> what is spong server
[09:08] <samoura> for gods of sake lets Eat some kake
[09:08] <squidy> can you connect to the share on the linux box, from a terminal
[09:09] <squidy> i.e smbclient //servername/sharename
[09:09] <ronaldson40> let me try
[09:10] <ronaldson40> yes i am able to open it
[09:10] <ronaldson40> i can see two folders SHARE AND HOME
[09:11] <ronaldson40> but when i click it says that these folders do not exist
[09:11] <Plouj_> yo
[09:11] <Plouj_> has anyone here re-compiled their *ubuntu kernel?
[09:12] <samoura> what is DNS server is it geway ip ?
[09:12] <samoura> what is DNS server is it geway ip ?
[09:12] <Plouj_> samoura: once only, please
[09:12] <Plouj_> samoura: its not a gateway ip
[09:12] <squidy> sorry how are you doing this? the clicking bit
[09:12] <samoura> what is it
[09:12] <samoura> 192.168.1.1
[09:12] <ronaldson40> yes
[09:12] <samoura> hmm ?
[09:12] <Plouj_> no
[09:13] <Plouj_> dns would be something your ISP asssigns to you
[09:13] <Snake__> http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b211/hCwAngel/i%20hate%20ms/ms_car_bb.jpg
[09:13] <Snake__> HHAHAHAHAHAH
[09:13] <Plouj_> can be found using ipconfig /all
[09:13] <squidy> i confused now!!  i asked you to run a command from a terminal, you don't genrally click on things in a terminal
[09:13] <squidy> what program are you using
[09:13] <ronaldson40> oh sorry i will run it in the terminal
[09:14] <ronaldson40> i did in the GUI
[09:14] <squidy> ok well if you can connect fine then thats ok
[09:14] <Plouj_> humm
[09:14] <squidy> erm are you entering a username on windoze box
[09:14] <squidy> i.e root
[09:14] <samoura> where do i find my dns server ip?
[09:15] <Plouj_> do you have windows installed?
[09:15] <Plouj_> do you have your ISP's manual?
[09:15] <samoura> hmm i have another computer
[09:15] <ronaldson40> root@toshiba:~# smbclient//toshiba/SHARE
[09:15] <ronaldson40> bash: smbclient//toshiba/SHARE: No such file or directory
[09:15] <samoura> i am i lan
[09:15] <samoura> hmm i have another computer
[09:15] <samoura> i am i lan
[09:15] <squidy> add a space
[09:15] <ronaldson40> i am gettin this
[09:15] <Plouj_> samoura: if you are in windows, try ipconfig /all
[09:15] <Plouj_> in linux, try cat /etc/resolv.conf
[09:15] <samoura> the other computer has window xp
[09:15] <squidy> smbclient //
[09:16] <ronaldson40> yah its workin but it is askign me for a password
[09:16] <ronaldson40> wat do i enter
[09:16] <squidy> did you run smbpasswd at any time
[09:17] <ronaldson40> yes
[09:17] <ronaldson40> i set to a password
[09:17] <squidy> use that password then
[09:18] <ronaldson40> i enter that password this is wat i get
[09:18] <ronaldson40> root@toshiba:~# smbclient //toshiba/SHARE
[09:18] <ronaldson40> Password:
[09:18] <ronaldson40> Domain=[TOSHIBA]  OS=[Unix]  Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Ubuntu] 
[09:18] <ronaldson40> tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[09:20] <ronaldson40> wat does this mean
[09:20] <Mrono> it means that your trying to login remotely
[09:20] <Mrono> and that it's failing
[09:20] <Mrono> because it can't connect to the domain controller to auth your user/pass
[09:21] <squidy> i thin the that the SHARE does not exsits, but i'm not certain, trying to check
[09:21] <Mrono> < is guesssing
[09:21] <ronaldson40> so how do i rectify this
[09:24] <hatake_kakashi> ronaldson40: check via smbtree
[09:24] <ronaldson40> wait i created another folder called HDD and i am able to access it
[09:24] <ronaldson40> root@toshiba:~# smbclient //toshiba/HDD
[09:24] <ronaldson40> Password:
[09:24] <ronaldson40> Domain=[TOSHIBA]  OS=[Unix]  Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Ubuntu] 
[09:24] <ronaldson40> smb: \>
[09:24] <ronaldson40> i am gettin this
[09:25] <squidy> try from your windoze box now
[09:26] <ronaldson40> that by goin to my network places> Workgroup computers > Toshiba rite
[09:27] <squidy> yeah or you can type //toshiba/HDD in internet explorer
[09:27] <samoura> plauj YOu are the man THANKS SO MATCH for the dns help :)
[09:27] <ronaldson40> let me try
[09:27] <samoura> it worked :D
[09:28] <ronaldson40> thanks guys its working.... when i enter //toshiba/HDD
[09:29] <Mrono> anyone seen brenden today?
[09:29] <samoura> plauj thanks agein uhh my counter strike server works
[09:29] <samoura> i like to move move it i like to move move it MOVE IT ;)
[09:30] <Mrono> !tell samoura about rules
[09:31] <ronaldson40> why i am unable to login via the workgrp
[09:31] <samoura> I am sorry ;(
[09:32] <ronaldson40> while from the run comamand this is possible
[09:32] <samoura> i am just glad that i can play all my steam games and playstation games on my computer :D
[09:32] <samoura> linux gnome is the best
[09:33] <Acksaw> im off
[09:33] <Acksaw> bye
[09:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi guys
[09:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have  a problem with multimedia
[09:34] <squidy> both should work!! where you havinf to supply a username password from the run command
[09:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have installed the plugin for firefox to enable multimedia integration
[09:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and the use of kaffeine inside webpages
[09:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> for reproduce mp3 for example, but it doesn't work
[09:35] <ronaldson40> but here i called it directly ie from run i called my comp folder but not the comp
[09:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> suppose that there'a a file in streaming in a webpage protected by passord
[09:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> if i have the followed link, is there a way of playing the file outside of firefox in streaming, after authenticating from web? http://webct.sfu.ca/fpa147spring06/journalaudio/Schaeffer.mp3
[09:38] <ronaldson40> how do i become a member
[09:41] <Mrono> hey guys
[09:41] <Mrono> is it possible for me to modify my start menu to have the winxp format
[09:42] <Mrono> in KDE
[09:43] <_jeroen> hi everyone, Can someone tell me how to setup KLaptop correctly, to show me the current battery status? Right now it's telling me no battery is present
[09:45] <Mrono> enable your acpi
[09:45] <Mrono> !acpi
[09:45] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono
[09:45] <Mrono> !apcu
[09:45] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono
[09:45] <Mrono> !apci
[09:45] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mrono
[09:45] <Mrono> screw ti
[09:45] <Mrono> lol
[09:45] <_jeroen> :)
[09:46] <ronaldson40> hi
[09:46] <ronaldson40> i have another problem....
[09:46] <_jeroen> Mrono: ok, i will look for that, thank you
[09:47] <ronaldson40> I have a laserjet 2600n hp connected via ethernet port to my router ..........
[09:47] <ronaldson40> I want to be able to print from Kubuntu
[09:47] <ronaldson40> however drivers are not available
[09:47] <ronaldson40> wat do i do
[09:48] <ronaldson40> i am getting stuck at the selection of driver page
[09:49] <ronaldson40> i am doin this from the System settins>PRINTERS - > Add Printer Class
[09:53] <squidy> ronaldson40: try reading this http://www.clug.ca/node/346
[09:53] <squidy> f
[09:54] <ronaldson40> thanks
[09:56] <samoura> i am the best in linux i started 2 days ago and i can play games listen to mp3 and mor more i dont need help :P
[09:56] <ryanakca> lol
[09:56] <ryanakca> samoura: I started linux a year ago and I still need help...
[09:56] <jpatrick> samoura: I've used linux for ~7 months and I'm a Kubuntu dev and MOTU
[09:57] <ryanakca> mind you... you probably dont attempt to do stupid impossible things like setup a sendmail server
[09:58] <samoura> hey you can do this sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop  i am using it ;:D
[09:58] <FFIXXX> hello just a few questions
[09:58] <jpatrick> FFIXXX: fire away
[09:58] <FFIXXX> I just downloaded kubuntu dapper
[09:58] <FFIXXX> live cd
[09:59] <jpatrick> cool
[09:59] <ryanakca> samoura: Your out of your mind?!?!? GNOME??? mind you... gnome isnt as bad as some people make it out to be... its nice... but I like my kde themes more than I like gnome
[09:59] <MeshGearFox> Ah, hello. I was on last night asking about lost internet connections although it was sort of dead. Someone told me to run dhclient eth0 to,er, I think aquire my IP or something. Only gave me some error about no valid leases found, though.
[09:59] <FFIXXX> but the version insays its 5.10
[09:59] <MeshGearFox> ryanakca: I think Gnome looks totally functionally. Just sort of ugly.
[09:59] <FFIXXX> I sort of wanted to try xgl and compiz
[09:59] <FFIXXX> but cant find it
[10:00] <ryanakca> MeshGearFox: yeah
[10:00] <MeshGearFox> http://gnome-th.sourceforge.net/images/screenshot-01.png <- That, and I could never really read its text displays very well ;)
[10:00] <samoura> ryanacka sorry man ;( did you get a hard attack
[10:00] <FFIXXX> i used this link
[10:00] <FFIXXX> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/dapper-live-i386.iso
[10:01] <jpatrick> !xgl
[10:01] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:01] <MeshGearFox> Oh, anyway, so I got my IP from that windows network manager thing under the control panel, and basically just copied my IP address over and added it in manually via ifconfig. That... didn't do anything (not that I'm surprised :P).
[10:01] <ryanakca> MeshGearFox: gah! ugly
[10:02] <ryanakca> samoura: no... I didnt get a heart attack.. I just made a couple dark vows to go out and hunt down the people who brainwashed you...  it isn't really your fault you don't know anybetter... just like a toddler running on the highway... :P
[10:02] <FFIXXX> can it run with a live cd?
[10:02] <ryanakca> samoura: dont worry... I was in the same mess as you until a couple of months ago
[10:03] <MeshGearFox> WTF. I though I turned alternate pixel center setting off... Beh :|
[10:03] <ryanakca> O.o
[10:03] <MeshGearFox> !dhclient
[10:03] <ubotu> MeshGearFox: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:03] <MeshGearFox> !ifconfig
[10:03] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, MeshGearFox
[10:05] <jpatrick> FFIXXX: I wouldn't try because it would be really slow
[10:05] <MeshGearFox> That worked well :| Maybe I should figure out how to set up a static IP or something.
[10:05] <FFIXXX> okay
[10:05] <FFIXXX> so one more question
[10:06] <FFIXXX> how can I check the version?
[10:06] <_jeroen> hmm, i just checked if ACPI is enabled and it is, modules are loaded and everything seems to work fine, except it's not finding any battery ....
[10:07] <Mrono> "oh god I want to hit you right now!"
[10:07] <Mrono> lol @ american dad
[10:07] <Mrono> ACPI has issues on kubuntu
[10:07] <MeshGearFox> Wait, maybe I have multiple ethernet cards.
[10:07] <Mrono> I'm going to recompile my kernel with better support for it
[10:08] <Mrono> well
[10:08] <Mrono> gtg
[10:08] <Mrono> be back in 20 min or so
[10:09] <samoura> Mrono
[10:10] <jpatrick> Mrono: apci=off
[10:12] <cristian> hello
[10:12] <MeshGearFox> Hm. I'll ask around in #ubuntu
[10:12] <jpatrick> hola cristian
[10:12] <MeshGearFox> Hey :)
[10:12] <cristian> hey, what packets should I install to get divx, mp3, xvid, ac3 codecs etc?
[10:13] <MeshGearFox> XMMS comes with MP3 support.
[10:13] <MeshGearFox> No clue about the other three.
[10:13] <cristian> and for divx?
[10:13] <MeshGearFox> Did you search through Adept?
[10:13] <ronaldson40> how do  i use the make command
[10:15] <ryanakca> how do you remove glib 2.8.6? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9374
[10:15] <ronaldson40> squid are u there
[10:15] <squidy> ronaldson40: is this still for your printer, i think you can install those drivers drom adept
[10:15] <squidy> search for foo2zjs
[10:15] <ronaldson40> yah
[10:21] <ryanakca> how do you remove glib 2.8.6? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9374
[10:21] <ronaldson40> squidy
[10:22] <squidy> sorry what!
[10:22] <ronaldson40> after i installed it from adept do i need to restart my system
[10:22] <ronaldson40> becos i can find it in the printer model selection page
[10:22] <gloin> anyone here go through compiling gtkradiant?
[10:22] <gloin> I'm having dependency troubles
[10:23] <gloin> something libgl is not installed
[10:23] <squidy> unlikely, are you following the instuctions on that link
[10:23] <squidy> ignoring the make make install bi now that you have used adpet
[10:23] <ronaldson40> but they have used GNOME
[10:25] <squidy> this link http://www.clug.ca/node/346 just skip the driver bit and folllow the rest
[10:25] <MeshGearFox> gloin: Something libgl? What, specifically?
[10:25] <squidy> i.e From there i was able to ...
[10:25] <gloin> error: GL_ZERO undeclared here (not in a function)
[10:26] <gloin> lots of those
[10:26] <gloin> GL_ONE
[10:26] <gloin> etc
[10:26] <MeshGearFox> Do you have libgl? Or is there a package named somethingl ike that?
[10:29] <Ilokaasu> im unable to start firestarter, if someone can help i would be pleased
[10:29] <gloin> hrm
[10:30] <Ilokaasu> says some files missing
[10:30] <gloin> is there an ubuntu version of http://packages.debian.org anywhere?
[10:30] <gloin> I need to search on "provides" to find the libs
[10:44] <bsjkl> !repos
[10:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:45] <cristian> can I mount ntfs partitions?
[10:47] <hatake_kakashi> !tell cristian about ntfs
[10:53] <samoura> Noteventime ?
[10:57] <cristian> I cant write on ntfs partition!!!!!?????
[10:58] <Ilokaasu> cristian: linuxes dont have proper support writing to ntfs partition
[10:58] <Ilokaasu> some have but its not so good
[10:58] <MisterMom> cristian: this is a known problem,  u sould create a fat partion to write to
[11:01] <gloin> can someone look at http://pastebin.com/573930 and offer a guess as to which packages I'm missing?  I've tried several...
[11:06] <MisterMom> gloin: only a guess but it looks like a problem with open gl
[11:06] <gloin> MisterMom: yeah
[11:06] <gloin> I have that guess as well
[11:10] <judgen> how do i get +rwx on a ntfs parttion in ubuntu?
[11:11] <judgen> also, i wonder why i cant seem to get accelerated 2d what ever i do
[11:11] <Ilokaasu> linux has poor writing support to ntfs partitions
[11:13] <judgen> i know but there is no alternative at the moment
[11:13] <MisterMom> judgen: i always make sure i have a fat partion to write to,  and then move copy from there
[11:14] <judgen> MisterMom: not possible, fat cant handle that big files
[11:14] <brydenn> hey, who wants to see what my desktop looks like :)
[11:14] <brydenn> here's a screenshot of it :) http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9398/snapshot19tj.png
[11:14] <MisterMom> judgen:  how big?
[11:15] <Mrono> http://mrono.net/main/photos/computer/desktop02232006.png
[11:15] <Mrono> mine
[11:15] <MisterMom> judgen:  ok then make a share in linux and copy the file from ntfs
[11:15] <judgen> MisterMom: 55gb
[11:15] <brydenn> thats nice Mrono
[11:15] <gloin> http://www.taupehat.com/images/misc/advocacy.png
[11:15] <gloin> mine
[11:15] <brydenn> i like the glass windows :)
[11:15] <Mrono> yep
[11:16] <Mrono> it looks better now
[11:16] <Mrono> I upgraded to 3.5.1
[11:16] <Mrono> neways
[11:16] <Mrono> gtg
[11:16] <gloin> werr
[11:16] <gloin> wrong pic
[11:16] <judgen> how to get acc 2d/3d on an ati 9800 card?
[11:16] <MisterMom> judgen:  only other idea is to burn to cd/dvd and copy fron there
[11:17] <brydenn> hey Mrono ... here is one with my window decoration :) http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1315/snapshot25fk.png
[11:17] <brydenn> i like it :)
[11:17] <judgen> MisterMom: that will be very many dvds'as the files are updated once a week
[11:17] <MisterMom> judgen: so make a linux share and copy from ntfs
[11:18] <brydenn> hehe i love my eye-candy :)
[11:18] <judgen> MisterMom: i get the new file yeah, but i cant update to the ntfs again from linux then?
[11:19] <MisterMom> judgen:  no linux can not write to ntfs so do it the other way around
[11:20] <judgen> i saw some article on osnews claiming that linux can write to ntsf now
[11:21] <Ilokaasu> yeah some can
[11:21] <MisterMom> judgen:  not reliably and you will most likely lose data
[11:21] <Zoder2> hi all
[11:21] <Lure> judgen: for more info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NTFSReadWrite
[11:22] <Zoder2> can someone help me with my CMedia 9880? please
[11:25] <Zoder2> anyone here know what they are doing? not with sound but new kernels?
[11:26] <tarmath> brydenn: whats do you use for the weather up there?
[11:26] <brydenn> liquid weather
[11:26] <brydenn> why?
[11:26] <tarmath> superkaramba, right?
[11:26] <brydenn> yep
[11:26] <judgen> what is the name fglrx package?
[11:27] <brydenn> i like that little weather widget :)
[11:27] <tarmath> brydenn: yea it rocks, ima get it right now heheh
[11:27] <Pyrobob> I don't see the point in weather widgets
[11:27] <brydenn> yah just download superkaramba. once you do that you can simply install liquid weather from superkaramba
[11:27] <brydenn> Pyrobob: cuz i hate watching the news to find out
[11:27] <MisterMom> judgen: sorry i cant help with ati card ive never had one
[11:27] <Pyrobob> lol
[11:28] <brydenn> and since i'm on my computer more than the TV its easy for me
[11:28] <brydenn> lol
[11:28] <Pyrobob> I got the computer and the TV running at the same time most of the time
[11:28] <tarmath> pyrobob: some people actually go out :P
[11:28] <Pyrobob> I do
[11:28] <brydenn> yah well when i get a tv tuner for my computer i may care lol
[11:28] <Pyrobob> you can rig one for cable if you have a cable modem
[11:28] <Pyrobob> but im not sure if it works on Linux or not
[11:28] <brydenn> i have a cable modem
[11:29] <Pyrobob> works on my win98 downstairs
[11:29] <brydenn> i'm more interested in hacking a surfboard modem to jack free cable internet... but thats just me
[11:29] <Zoder2> can someone help me with my sound in my kernel??? i have no mic in and i have SOME crackly sound some meaning only cirtain programs do this i use kubuntu 5.1 and have a cmedia 9880
[11:29] <tarmath> another thing Im looking for is probly another plugin for superkaramba that shows news titles on the desktop... from rss feeds... havent found that
[11:29] <Pyrobob> is there a master list anywhere that says what programs are compatable with Wine?
[11:30] <Pyrobob> other than wineHQ
[11:30] <Zoder2> look on google
[11:30] <Zoder2> just
[11:30] <Pyrobob> was already doing that when I asked lol
[11:30] <Zoder2> wine program
[11:30] <Zoder2> o lol
[11:30] <Zoder2> what program
[11:30] <Pyrobob> trying to cut down searching time
[11:30] <Pyrobob> but I guess no one knows <_<
[11:30] <Zoder2> oh lol nope
[11:31] <Zoder2> Pyrobob, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[11:31] <Pyrobob> 5.10
[11:31] <Pyrobob> I think
[11:31] <Zoder2> you any good? :P
[11:31] <Pyrobob> what do you man "any good"
[11:32] <Pyrobob> mean*
[11:32] <Zoder2> do you know what your doing?
[11:32] <Pyrobob> somewhat
[11:32] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:32] <Pyrobob> haven't crashed it yet
[11:32] <Zoder2> lol would you mind trying to help?
[11:32] <Pyrobob> I could try
[11:32] <Pyrobob> not an expert at linux yet....
[11:32] <fatejudger> !fglrx
[11:32] <ubotu> from memory, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:33] <Zoder2> you know how to recompile a kernel? and get it to work with LVM?
[11:33] <Pyrobob> not a clue
[11:33] <Zoder2> dang lol ok ty
[11:33] <Pyrobob> I can on an xbox, but never tried it on a PC
[11:33] <Pyrobob> on a modded xbox, I mean
[11:34] <Zoder2> lol
[11:34] <Zoder2> my sound is messed up
[11:34] <Zoder2> and i dont know how to disbale it in kernel so i can use modules
[11:34] <Pyrobob> sure its not just a bad connection to the sound card?
[11:34] <Zoder2> so i can alsaconf
[11:34] <Zoder2> i have 5.1 working fine in some programs
[11:35] <Zoder2> but i have no mic input volume and its crackly in WoW and wc3 (i cant install wine for soem reason)
[11:35] <Zoder2> well i can but its only through command line
[11:35] <Zoder2> and i have no tools for it even though it says they are installed
[11:35] <Pyrobob> on wine what happens when you try to install it?
[11:35] <confrey> I have installed kde in ubuntu breezy, after gnome; now in kde I haven't automaitc mount of cd and usbpen, what can I do?
[11:36] <Zoder2> nothing
[11:36] <Zoder2> it instlals
[11:36] <Zoder2> installs*
[11:36] <Pyrobob> you said you couldn't install it a second ago
[11:36] <hyperactivecrond> this is the situation: i have a web server running apache now.
[11:36] <Zoder2> but i cant open tools ar the graphical interface
[11:36] <hyperactivecrond> i want to add a mail server
[11:36] <hyperactivecrond> both of them having the same internet IP address
[11:36] <Zoder2> it wont install correctly*
[11:37] <hyperactivecrond> the mail server needs to use apache also
[11:37] <Zoder2> well all i want to fix now is my mic...
[11:37] <hyperactivecrond> how would i configure this?
[11:37] <ryanakca> for a highschool credit... what would you do if you wanted to become a Unix System Administrator later on: a) write a program in python or b) setup and configure a sendmail server
[11:37] <hyperactivecrond> they're on the same network
[11:37] <hyperactivecrond> sendmail imo ryanakca
[11:38] <hyperactivecrond> i want the main web server to be www.baz.com  and the mail server to be mail.baz.com
[11:38] <ryanakca> hyperactivecrond: kk... anybody else have a suggestion?
[11:39] <Pyrobob> nope sry
[11:41] <hyperactivecrond> any have an idea as to how i would configure this?
[11:43] <ryanakca> apt-get install ???    for PyGTK
[11:43] <_max_> Anyone try xgl in kubuntu yet ?
[11:43] <fatejudger> _max_: I tried to get it working, but X would hang every time I started it
[11:44] <_max_> =/
[11:44] <_max_> looks amazing :) gona try get it working tmrw at work
[11:48] <raphink> _max_: tried it
[11:48] <raphink> works quite fine
[11:48] <raphink> there are a few bugs
[11:48] <raphink> especially with kde
[11:48] <raphink> but it works
[11:49] <fatejudger> raphink: ATI card?
[11:49] <noteventime> XGL?
[11:49] <raphink> yep
[11:49] <raphink> noteventime: yes
[11:49] <raphink> fatejudger: radeon 9200
[11:50] <fatejudger> raphink: fglrx drivers?
[11:50] <noteventime> ok, runns pretty stable for me on my i915 intel laptop, flickering while using cube thoug
[11:50] <hyperactivecrond> _max_ i tried xgl in gnome
[11:50] <raphink> fatejudger: no, ati
[11:50] <hyperactivecrond> but it doesn't work for kde atm
[11:50] <raphink> noteventime: same
[11:50] <_max_> hmm... dont like gnome :S
[11:50] <noteventime> yes it does
[11:50] <fatejudger> Gnome sucks
[11:50] <raphink> hyperactivecrond: yes it does
[11:50] <hyperactivecrond> btw
[11:50] <noteventime> I'm using xgl with KDE
[11:50] <raphink> hyperactivecrond: you didn't get it work with kde that is
[11:50] <hyperactivecrond> if you hit shift-backspace you kill your X server
[11:50] <fatejudger> noteventime: ATI drivers or fglrx
[11:51] <raphink> hyperactivecrond: yes, pretty annoying
[11:51] <hyperactivecrond> raphink: how did you get kde-window-decorator to work?
[11:51] <noteventime> fatejudger: I'm using an Intel graphics card
[11:51] <spiritz> noteventime: I'm trying to use XGL with kde but it's quiet diffcult due to the very buggy taskbar :(
[11:51] <raphink> hyperactivecrond: kde-w-d doesnt work, but g-w-d works with kde
[11:51] <hyperactivecrond> ah.
[11:51] <raphink> ;)
[11:51] <noteventime> I'm having no probs at alll
[11:51] <raphink> you just get gnome bars on kde windows
[11:51] <raphink> not so terrible
[11:52] <noteventime> just use gnome-window-decorator
[11:52] <noteventime> :)
[11:52] <ryanakca> apt-get install ???    for PyGTK
[11:52] <raphink> noteventime: yes
[11:52] <spiritz> raphink: are u able to see running programs (not systray) in the task bar?
[11:52] <raphink> kde-w-d cn't be used
[11:52] <noteventime> kde-window-decorator dosn't do anything at all...:/
[11:52] <raphink> didn't check
[11:52] <noteventime> more swedes :P
[11:52] <raphink> one annoying thing is that you get only 1 virtual desktop in the bar
[11:53] <raphink> noteventime: yes it doen't work
[11:53] <spiritz> raphink: ok... I don't, so as soon as I minimize something I can't even bring it back :d
[11:53] <noteventime> haha, I've noticed that too
[11:53] <judgen> if the opengl screensavers runs smoothly, i should have working hwogl right?
[11:53] <raphink> judgen: try glxgears to check
[11:53] <spiritz> any clue of the time span it's gonna take to get some kind of "alright" for kde?
[11:53] <raphink> judgen: or run glxinfo | grep direct
[11:54] <raphink> spiritz: a few months maybe
[11:54] <raphink> maybe less
[11:54] <raphink> should be pretty fast, given the success of compiz
[11:54] <judgen> raphink: runs smooth as a whistle
[11:54] <raphink> nice :)
[11:54] <noteventime> Why use compiz with KDE KDE4 will be better
[11:54] <spiritz> raphink: I wasn't expecting that much... All problem I have with kde should be a matter of debugging
[11:55] <judgen> raphink: how do i make videos stop being pixly?
[11:55] <raphink> noteventime: in 8 months or so maybe
[11:55] <spiritz> noteventime: KDE 4 is going to be released in a looooooong time
[11:55] <raphink> judgen: pixly?
[11:55] <noteventime> The beta is supposed to be out in half a year or sp
[11:55] <raphink> spiritz: in a few months, should be
[11:55] <ryanakca> how do you install PyGTK?
[11:55] <judgen> raphink: video acceleration
[11:56] <raphink> ryanakca: apt-cache search pygtk
[11:56] <raphink> ryanakca: btw, pygtk is a gnome stuff, and it's kubuntu here
[11:56] <judgen> raphink: in windows and beos i cant see any pixles in the movies when watching with vlc but now i have installed ubuntu, and i do
[11:56] <raphink> ah
[11:57] <judgen> all videos looks crappy
[11:57] <raphink> :(
[11:57] <raphink> what format?
[11:57] <judgen> all formats
[11:57] <raphink> hmm
[11:57] <raphink> how about with other players ?
[11:57] <judgen> havent tried dvd though
[11:57] <ryanakca> raphink: you need it to install gimp 2.3.7
[11:57] <spiritz> judgen: are u sure both vlc are set with the same "postprocessing" level?
[11:57] <raphink> like kaffeine
[11:58] <raphink> ryanakca: well then install gimp and it'll be there
[11:58] <judgen> spiritz: nope im not sure, how do i check?
[11:59] <judgen> spiritz: both are default
[11:59] <spiritz> It's in the video submenu
[11:59] <ryanakca> raphink: I'm not installing gimp with apt... I'm installing gimp from source seeing that we don't have gimp 2.3.7 in our repositories
[11:59] <Zoder2> i have the worst luck with linux
[11:59] <osh_> What's the diff between apt-get and aptitude? I get different results when installing with them. Odd isn't it?
[11:59] <judgen> kaboodle has the same problem
[12:00] <raphink> ryanakca: why not update the current package then and provide it to other people?
[12:00] <spiritz> judgen: Altough Im not sure but I think I also noticed crappy video quality when using xgl
[12:00] <raphink> osh_: aptitude installs recommends, apt-get doesn't
[12:00] <osh_> aptitude install drupal wants to install apache but apt-get is quite happy with my apache2 installation...
[12:00] <ryanakca> raphink: how do you "update" the current package?
[12:00] <osh_> raphink: Ahh, that explains some things. Is there some way to make it not do that?
[12:00] <raphink> osh_: apt-get lets you control what you want to install, aptitude crows your computer with stuff you don't want or need
[12:01] <raphink> osh_: use apt-get
[12:01] <raphink> ;)
[12:01] <raphink> ryanakca: you have to learn about packages
[12:01] <raphink> ryanakca: I can take you through an update if you want
[12:01] <judgen> gaaah this screen if freaking my out!
[12:01] <raphink> if you have some time
[12:02] <judgen> raphink:  how do i change the hz of the screen to 75?
[12:02] <judgen> flatscreen
[12:02] <raphink> sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:02] <Thedek> raphink: I'd love to learn package updating, but won't be on for long.  You offer a raincheck on that knowledge? =)
[12:02] <judgen> tried that, still ends up with 60hz
[12:03] <ryanakca> raphink: I have some time... I think... I'll go check when's supper
[12:03] <raphink> Thedek: you can study the New Debian Maintainer's Guide
[12:03] <raphink> ryanakca: ok
[12:03] <osh_> Still seems to be some oddities with the drupal package. It puts a drupal.conf in /etc/apache even though there apache isn't installed... :-/
[12:03] <raphink> Thedek: I'd like to give some teaching on packaging and reviewing some time but don't know when