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| j^ | will ubuntu switch from firefox-dev to xulrunner for dapper+1? | 12:46 |
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| Burglaptop | j^: might. Would be nice | 12:47 |
| Burglaptop | then we can ship epiphany and not FF | 12:47 |
| j^ | i dont want epiphany | 12:47 |
| j^ | i want ff | 12:47 |
| dolson | ick | 12:48 |
| Burglaptop | it is not about what any of us want, it is about what is a good default for users | 12:49 |
| j^ | and imho epiphany is not a good default | 12:50 |
| j^ | its firefox | 12:50 |
| j^ | ff has momentum | 12:50 |
| Burglaptop | to be honest, users don't care and don't know. My company (Userful) sells FC4-based machines for public use (to libraries, etc.) and we ship Epiphany | 12:51 |
| Burglaptop | never heard or had anything feedback that is negative | 12:51 |
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| j^ | Burglaptop its about switching, not shiping firefox, you loose everybody that just switched to firefox and liked it. | 12:53 |
| j^ | but no need to repeat that enless thread from ubuntu-dev on irc | 12:54 |
| Burglaptop | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/epiphany-list/2005-October/msg00077.html | 12:54 |
| dolson | I don't think that someone is going to install Linux and not know how to use Firefox | 12:54 |
| Burglaptop | that is restricting your market | 12:55 |
| Burglaptop | and what about those that get Ubuntu pre-installed for them? | 12:55 |
| dolson | ?? a lot of Windows users are installing Firefox on their own now | 12:56 |
| Burglaptop | 10% at most | 12:56 |
| dolson | a browser is a browser is a browser | 12:56 |
| Burglaptop | indeed, hence the arguement FOR epipahny | 12:57 |
| dolson | if it just worked, then yeah, I'd agree | 12:57 |
| Burglaptop | currently FF takes up about 1/2 of Diziet's time. That is huge for a relatively minor package. And that doesn't even include the security issues or the trademark ones... | 12:58 |
| crimsun | getting off-topic, but epiphany uses ff anyhow. | 12:58 |
| dolson | ok, you have convinced me. so why haven't we already switched to Epiphany for Dapper? | 12:58 |
| Burglaptop | dolson: readup about xulrunner | 12:59 |
| Burglaptop | currently you need to have a copy of either FF or Moz installed to get gecko | 12:59 |
| Burglaptop | which is also needed for yelp and a few other packages | 12:59 |
| Burglaptop | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EpiphanyDefaultBrowser | 01:00 |
| dolson | so people who have been using Ubuntu all this time will be thrown for a loop when the next version comes out and Firefox is gone | 01:00 |
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| Burglaptop | they would be able to install it, just like with Thunderbird now | 01:01 |
| dolson | so we assume that users are too stupid to use Firefox but are smart enough to install it if it's suddenly changed on them? | 01:02 |
| Burglaptop | it is not about relative intelligence | 01:02 |
| Burglaptop | it is about good defaults | 01:02 |
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| Burglaptop | my company dogfoods, so we have all linux desktops | 01:02 |
| Burglaptop | I am the only person who uses Linux at home. None of the six of us have any extensions installed | 01:03 |
| dolson | I remember when I read about Epiphany becoming the new default, and so I installed it, and I used it for about an hour, and it continually crashed | 01:03 |
| Burglaptop | that is a bug and I have never seen that | 01:03 |
| dolson | it was on a relatively new Breezy install. I haven't tried it on Dapper yet, but I will. | 01:04 |
| Burglaptop | basically, I have seen real Windows users using a Linux desktop for 6 months straight and seen where they curse and where they don't | 01:04 |
| dolson | I may as well get started moving over my bookmarks and passwords and stuff now | 01:04 |
| dolson | to be honest, I hate both browsers equally | 01:05 |
| Burglaptop | I switch to epiphany full time about four months ago. I hated it at first but then discovered all the cool things (like better bookmark handling) and love it | 01:05 |
| dolson | the last time I used it, it didn't have any icons on my bookmark panel.. does it have that now? | 01:05 |
| dolson | I haven't used a good browser since the old Galeon 1.x series. And then it got screwed over when they bumped it up to 2.0 and then it seems to have been forgotten about | 01:06 |
| HiddenWolf | dolson: the galeon developers are out of time, and porting galeon functionality as plugins to epiphany, basically merging the browsers | 01:07 |
| dolson | that's good news | 01:07 |
| HiddenWolf | Burglaptop: I have a similar story, It took me some time to get used to it, but I like epi a lot now. | 01:07 |
| dolson | I haven't used Galeon for a long long time.. I think I was still using Mandrake when I last used it | 01:07 |
| HiddenWolf | There are some things I sorely miss still, but I'll wait on the plugins. :) | 01:07 |
| dolson | Firefox used to crash on me randomly, just like Epiphany did | 01:08 |
| dolson | but 1.5 seems to not have had that issue (yet) | 01:08 |
| Burglaptop | not being able to drag tabs in FF 1 sucked and the visuals for tab dragging in Epip "feel" more smooth | 01:09 |
| dolson | another thing I remember about Epiphany was there seemed to be a lot of wasted screen space | 01:11 |
| Burglaptop | never seen that | 01:11 |
| Burglaptop | anyway *if* we switch, it will stir up a giant firestorm of controversy | 01:11 |
| Burglaptop | we will probably lose users | 01:12 |
| dolson | in Firefox I can move pretty much anything anywhere. like, I have the File Edit, etc menu, and on the same bar, I have the Address bar and google bar.. can you do that in Epiphany? | 01:12 |
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| Burglaptop | should be able to | 01:12 |
| StevenK | Hang on, didn't we already punt mozilla to universe in Dapper? | 01:12 |
| Burglaptop | StevenK: we did | 01:12 |
| j^ | Burglaptop so will we get users by switching to epiphany? | 01:13 |
| Burglaptop | part of ReducingDuplication | 01:13 |
| dolson | is that a wise idea then? risk losing users just for a browser? | 01:13 |
| StevenK | Which means using xulrunner is pretty much moot, right? | 01:13 |
| Burglaptop | StevenK: xulrunner != mozilla | 01:13 |
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| StevenK | I'm well aware of that | 01:13 |
| Burglaptop | dolson, j^, we will provide a better user experience for the vast majority | 01:13 |
| Burglaptop | the people we actually need to target, the average computer user | 01:13 |
| j^ | can i install the annodex plugin? (http://annodex.net/) | 01:14 |
| Burglaptop | and in the end, it is not a pissing content about getting most users | 01:14 |
| Burglaptop | j^: this is all hot air right now, so any questions like that are premature | 01:14 |
| dolson | I know that, but why would you want to annoy existing users? | 01:14 |
| dolson | part of the reason I switched from debian was that everything good to use was there by default, meaning gnome, gaim, firefox,etc | 01:15 |
| Burglaptop | because I fell Epiphany provides a better out of the box experinece for users | 01:15 |
| Burglaptop | s/fell/feel | 01:15 |
| dolson | and then if someone wants to remove it and install firefox, it'll take ubuntu-desktop with it, right? | 01:15 |
| Burglaptop | dolson: just like they would with evolution now | 01:16 |
| Burglaptop | and -desktop is not important after install | 01:16 |
| dolson | for upgrades it is. so we'll end up downloading a bunch of extra stuff just to delete it again and download yet more stuff | 01:17 |
| StevenK | ubuntu-desktop can Depend on ephiphany | firefox | 01:17 |
| dolson | is evolution being replaced too? | 01:17 |
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| StevenK | And you can educate aptitude to upgrade firefox and leave ephiphany uninstalled. | 01:17 |
| Burglaptop | dolson: evolution will never be replaced by thunderbird | 01:17 |
| StevenK | Besides, ephiphany is hard to type. | 01:17 |
| Burglaptop | regardless, this is all hot air | 01:17 |
| dolson | I didn't specify what it would be replaced by | 01:17 |
| dolson | it's not an official gnome project, is it? | 01:18 |
| Burglaptop | evo? yes it is | 01:18 |
| dolson | ah, ok | 01:18 |
| Burglaptop | since 2.8 I think | 01:18 |
| dolson | so evo = kmail for gnome | 01:18 |
| Burglaptop | yes | 01:18 |
| dolson | alright, I didn't know it was adopted as their own | 01:19 |
| dolson | I still don't like it. I use gmail only, so having evolution junk running in the background is useless to me | 01:19 |
| dolson | but I think it's the better software | 01:19 |
| Burglaptop | evolution-data-server != evolution | 01:20 |
| Burglaptop | e-d-s is used by more than evo | 01:20 |
| Burglaptop | http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointThirteen/Desktop | 01:20 |
| dolson | yeah, I know | 01:20 |
| Burglaptop | this is getting off-topic, so we should probably end it here | 01:20 |
| dolson | It takes two hours for the calendar to open up while it searches for appointments when I click on the date in the gnome panel | 01:20 |
| Burglaptop | again, file bugs, this is not the place to discuss such issues | 01:21 |
| Burglaptop | upstream if you have a fix | 01:21 |
| dolson | right, sorry. | 01:21 |
| Burglaptop | np | 01:22 |
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| SEJeff | How do I get gdb to run a command with arguments to the command? | 01:39 |
| StevenK | SEJeff: set args='' | 01:40 |
| StevenK | Without the =, sorry. | 01:41 |
| SEJeff | so something like, gdb /usr/bin/executable then set args '--sync' then run? | 01:42 |
| StevenK | SEJeff: Yes | 01:58 |
| SEJeff | thanks | 01:58 |
| StevenK | SEJeff: And setting breaks and stuff before run if needed | 01:59 |
| StevenK | doko: Er, it seems I didn't check hard enough, moinmoin-common Replaces and Conflicts moin. | 02:01 |
| desrt | SEJeff; much easier way | 02:01 |
| desrt | gdb --args /usr/bin/executable these are your arguments | 02:01 |
| SEJeff | desrt, thanks, but xchat-gnome still dies and doesn't give gdb anything remotely useful | 02:02 |
| desrt | then just (gdb) run | 02:02 |
| desrt | not my problem :) | 02:02 |
| desrt | try blowing away your config files | 02:02 |
| SEJeff | It is a bug with xchat-gnome and the nvidia driver. says the server doesn't support the operation | 02:03 |
| SEJeff | malone bug #31705 | 02:03 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 31705 in xchat-gnome "Crash when turning on transparent" [Normal,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/31705 | 02:03 |
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| Kyral | kinda stupid question, but what Volume Manager is Dapper Current using (need to know so I can pass it to Thunar) | 02:34 |
| crimsun | gnome-volume-manager | 02:35 |
| crimsun | if you mean Ubuntu Dapper | 02:35 |
| Kyral | I meant in general.At the low level. | 02:35 |
| crimsun | meaning pmount, hal, and udev? | 02:36 |
| Kyral | yah | 02:36 |
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| Kyral | I didn't have libhal-storage-dev installed..thats why it wasn't picking up on it lol | 02:40 |
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| mdke | jpatrick, around? | 12:40 |
| jpatrick | mdke: yes, sir | 12:40 |
| mdke | jpatrick, ah cool. would you join #ubuntu-doc? | 12:40 |
| jpatrick | there | 12:40 |
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| tenco | why is anacron and cron installed on ubuntu by default? | 02:57 |
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| Kamion | Riddell: FYI, there are some substantial changes in my espresso archive you'll want to keep up with; I've moved the copy and config stages to debconffilter, which involves adding a debconf_progress_region method to your frontend and changing all the stuff around progress_loop (or whatever your equivalent is) | 03:09 |
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| tuhl | hi all! where do I find a xen 3.0.1 kernel for ubunut? | 03:21 |
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| mdke | Kamion, do you think it might be desirable to include the ubuntu css that I've applied to the installation-guide online in the packages too? | 03:22 |
| Kamion | mdke: probably not, don't want to diverge where I don't have to | 03:22 |
| mdke | Kamion, no problem, just thought I'd ask. | 03:22 |
| Kamion | it looks good though | 03:23 |
| mdke | Kamion, :) | 03:23 |
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| tuhl | hi! any help for activating the composite extension and Xorg-air? | 03:42 |
| mjg59 | tuhl: Not in here, no | 03:44 |
| mjg59 | tuhl: #ubuntu is a better bet | 03:44 |
| tseng | mjg59: could you hit me with a clue about my multimedia keys | 03:46 |
| tseng | mjg59: volume down has stopped sending a keypress event (dell 600m) | 03:46 |
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| tseng | volume up, rather | 03:46 |
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| mjg59 | tseng: Uhm. | 03:50 |
| mjg59 | tseng: Nothing shows up if you hit it on the console while running showkeys ? | 03:50 |
| tseng | hm i was using xev | 03:51 |
| tseng | mjg59: nope, nothing on showkey either | 03:52 |
| tseng | only for vol down and mute | 03:52 |
| mjg59 | tseng: Sounds like a hardware problem | 03:52 |
| mjg59 | I'm fairly sure we haven't changed anything that would touch that | 03:52 |
| tseng | ok. | 03:53 |
| mjg59 | tseng: Test under a Breezy livecd? | 03:53 |
| tseng | sure | 03:53 |
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| Lathiat | kerry? | 04:04 |
| tseng | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1820 | 04:05 |
| Lathiat | ah, knew i'd seen it somewhere | 04:05 |
| jpatrick | not me | 04:07 |
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| pitti | hi ogra | 06:59 |
| ogra | hey pitti | 06:59 |
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| ogra | pitti, would you mind taking a look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/esd.patch if you find time ? | 07:04 |
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| pitti | ogra: I can't judge whether it works, but it looks innocent enough | 07:05 |
| pitti | ogra: but isn't ESPEAKER already checked in a different place? | 07:06 |
| ogra | oki :) | 07:06 |
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| pitti | ogra: I faintly remember that we already applied a similar patch in the past | 07:06 |
| ogra | might be, i just need to aviod the clashing filenames for the sockets | 07:06 |
| pitti | ogra: ah, right, that patch is just for determining the socket name | 07:06 |
| ogra | you applied the getuid change: sprintf (dirname, "/tmp/.esd%s-%i", audiodev, getuid()); | 07:07 |
| ogra | but that doesnt help if you run with the same user several times :) | 07:07 |
| pitti | yes, I wasn't aware where that patch actually applied (socket, not output device) | 07:07 |
| pitti | yes, looks reasonable then | 07:07 |
| pitti | ogra: be aware that it'll break with third-party apps | 07:08 |
| ogra | are there apps accessing the socket directly apart from esd ? | 07:08 |
| pitti | ogra: i. e. commercial apps which don't use our libesd, but just look for /tmp/.esd | 07:08 |
| pitti | ogra: but we never particularly worried about these :) | 07:08 |
| ogra | but that will break already through the getuid change ;) | 07:09 |
| Treenaks | Argh! The logout dialog somehow triggers my mind into thinking 'Touch screen!' | 07:09 |
| pitti | right | 07:09 |
| ogra | i'm just setting audiodev ... | 07:09 |
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| Treenaks | must be because they look like the (touch screen) train ticket machines here in .nl | 07:09 |
| Treenaks | pitti: thanks :) | 07:10 |
| ogra | perhaps we should make the buttons bigger :) | 07:10 |
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| Treenaks | ogra: sure, make them full-screen# | 07:11 |
| Treenaks | ogra: saves you having to code the fade-effect too ;) | 07:11 |
| ogra | yeah :) | 07:11 |
| Treenaks | ogra: did you see the new moviegotchis I caught at FOSDEM? :) | 07:12 |
| ogra | nah, url ? | 07:12 |
| Treenaks | ogra: foodfight.org/movies/Ubuntu%20Fanpeople | 07:13 |
| Treenaks | (ross, daniels, ploum and sladen x2) | 07:13 |
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| Treenaks | and: the movies work GREAT in dapper + totem-gstreamer + firefox | 07:14 |
| Treenaks | all sync problems, etc. have magically gone away, it seems | 07:14 |
| Treenaks | \o/ gstreamer people | 07:14 |
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| tseng | Treenaks: they really do work great | 07:19 |
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| Treenaks | yeah, I think gst 0.10 rocks :) | 07:20 |
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| Riddell | Kamion: ok, will look at that tomorrow | 08:06 |
| Riddell | tseng: no | 08:06 |
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| sivang | Treenaks: have you been able to make emacs work under xgl? | 08:33 |
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| sivang | (or anyone elase know if Kinnison solved ths issue and/or how?) | 08:34 |
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| _lemsx1_ | hello all | 08:38 |
| jpatrick | hello _lemsx1_ | 08:38 |
| _lemsx1_ | is there a way that somebody can apply this patch to the ubuntu artwiz-cursor/xfonts package? this is an old bug with a patch | 08:38 |
| _lemsx1_ | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-artwiz/+bug/3255 | 08:38 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 3255 in xfonts-artwiz "fonts install in non-standard directory" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 08:38 |
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| _lemsx1_ | jpatrick: hello | 08:39 |
| _lemsx1_ | i started fixing just that same bug and then found it in malone... next time i'll look first ;-) | 08:39 |
| simira | what package do I meld a bug on when I don't get the external monitor working for my laptop? | 08:45 |
| jpatrick | xorg? | 08:45 |
| simira | possibly | 08:45 |
| Kamion | _lemsx1_: I'll have a quick look now | 08:47 |
| Kamion | ugh, what possessed the reporter to patch version 1.3 anyway | 08:49 |
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| Kamion | ah, epoch, never mind me | 08:50 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: thanks. because i'm trying to apply the patch and it's giving me problems | 08:52 |
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| Kamion | that use of update-alternatives is evil | 08:53 |
| Kamion | tempted to drop that bit of the patch until somebody sorts it out properly | 08:53 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: the idea is the dpkg-divert should be done in /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc | 08:54 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: dpkg-divert --package artwiz-cursor --remove --rename --divert \ | 08:54 |
| _lemsx1_ | /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/cursor.pcf.gz-artwiz \ | 08:54 |
| _lemsx1_ | /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/cursor.pcf.gz | 08:54 |
| _lemsx1_ | sorry for the paste | 08:54 |
| _lemsx1_ | you get the idea | 08:54 |
| Kamion | dpkg-divert != update-alternatives; I'm not talking about dpkg-divert | 08:54 |
| Kamion | I understand the code | 08:55 |
| _lemsx1_ | then an artwiz-cursor.theme needs to be created | 08:55 |
| Kamion | but using update-alternatives --set / update-alternatives --auto is fundamentally wrong | 08:55 |
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| _lemsx1_ | ok, update-alternative needs to install a link for x-cursor-theme to some real .theme file (since the core.theme is not part of Ubuntu's Xorg package) | 08:55 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: i agree. i didn't see that --auto stuff | 08:56 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: i almost had my package done before i saw this | 08:56 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: and i was taking a similar approach | 08:56 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: ok, i just diff the dpkg-source -x (extract) of the original package as is in ubuntu now (dapper) | 09:00 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: against the stuff i had done so far... can i give you this patch? | 09:00 |
| Kamion | use debdiff, attach to bug | 09:00 |
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| Kamion | not sure even *more* big monolithic patches will actually help though :) | 09:00 |
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| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: this is a small patch | 09:01 |
| Kamion | is it a subset of Seth's? | 09:01 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: exactly | 09:01 |
| Kamion | no need then | 09:01 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: ok | 09:01 |
| Kamion | I just went through Seth's patch and trimmed it down a bit | 09:02 |
| Kamion | I'll upload once I've tested it | 09:02 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: thanks | 09:02 |
| _lemsx1_ | Kamion: i'll stop this none sense here then ;-) put my efforts somewhere else | 09:03 |
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| jpatrick | there's a 0.4.2pre2 verison of gpac in multiverse that can't build because of dep problems however malone #32362 fixes it, if I upload will it be considered as NEW? | 09:23 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 32362 in gpac "Unmet dependency" [Normal,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/32362 | 09:23 |
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| setuid | doh | 09:32 |
| setuid | Weak references are not implemented in the version of perl at /usr/lib/perl5/AptPkg/hash.pm line 8 | 09:32 |
| setuid | BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/AptPkg/hash.pm line 8. | 09:32 |
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| setuid | wow, apt-file is broken | 09:35 |
| setuid | Server file no newer than local file `/var/cache/apt/Contents-i386.gz' -- not retrieving. | 09:35 |
| setuid | # ls -l /var/cache/apt/Contents-i386.gz | 09:35 |
| setuid | dolson: /var/cache/apt/Contents-i386.gz: No such file or directory | 09:35 |
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| setuid | s/dolson/ls:/ | 09:35 |
| setuid | How do I know which package a specific file is in? | 09:36 |
| setuid | (normally, I'd use dlocate or apt-file, but they're both broken in dapper) | 09:37 |
| dolson | auto-apt search file | 09:38 |
| glatzor | setuid: dpkg -S FILE | 09:41 |
| Seveas | setuid, maybe the server has no Contents-i386.gz at all | 09:42 |
| sivang | anybody here uses emacs and has tab completion enabled / working / know how to set it up? | 09:50 |
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| Kamion | gpac | 0.2.0-0.0 | dapper/multiverse | amd64, i386, powerpc | 09:59 |
| Kamion | gpac | 0.4.0+rc2-0.0 | dapper/multiverse | source | 09:59 |
| Kamion | jpatrick: no, won't be NEW unless it creates new binaries | 10:00 |
| Kamion | as in, binaries whose names are new to dapper | 10:00 |
| jpatrick | Kamion: I figured that out and uploaded | 10:00 |
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| Kamion | Seveas: it has Contents-*, but it hasn't been generated since January 19 | 10:01 |
| Kamion | I assume that was just rsynced over from the katie-based archive | 10:01 |
| Kamion | yeah, same timestamps | 10:01 |
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| desrt | where did the nice logout dialog go? | 10:37 |
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| tsdgeos | are fixes for dapper accepted or is it already frozen? | 10:39 |
| simira | I think it is still accepted | 10:40 |
| xxenon | hmm, I installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly as documented, but I still get no mp3 support in xine. Any clue ? | 10:41 |
| desrt | xxenon; you're seriously in the wrong channel | 10:41 |
| desrt | xxenon; you mean to ask that in #ubuntu | 10:41 |
| xxenon | ok .. | 10:41 |
| xxenon | well, Im testing flight 4 | 10:41 |
| desrt | see topic: Ubuntu Development (not support, even with dapper) | 10:41 |
| tsdgeos | does aspell-ca has a mantainer? do you need one? I filed a bug against it but don't know if there's anyone that can do the work, if not i'd be willing to take the job | 10:42 |
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| desrt | seb128; i know you're lurking | 10:47 |
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| ploum | hello | 11:01 |
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| ploum | Hi JanC | 11:15 |
| ploum | I didn't see you at FOSDEM | 11:15 |
| JanC | hi ploum, you did see mee | 11:15 |
| ploum | Arf ! | 11:15 |
| ploum | Have you said that you was JanC ? | 11:16 |
| ploum | or just your real name ? | 11:16 |
| JanC | I introduced myself as Jan Claeys | 11:16 |
| ploum | OKI ! | 11:16 |
| ploum | I didn't make the link | 11:16 |
| ploum | (altought it was obious) | 11:16 |
| ploum | sorrrryyyy ! | 11:16 |
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| ploum | (I've meet so many people) | 11:16 |
| JanC | no problem | 11:16 |
| ploum | I remember :-) | 11:17 |
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| JanC | jdub already created a list? ;-) | 11:17 |
| ploum | he will do tonight ! | 11:18 |
| JanC | great | 11:18 |
| ploum | Have you seen his final talk ? | 11:18 |
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| ploum | JanC it was really great to see so much people for ubuntu-be ! | 11:18 |
| JanC | yeah, and I hope the video of jeff's talk will be released | 11:18 |
| ploum | awesome, awesome | 11:19 |
| JanC | (someone was filming it I saw) | 11:19 |
| ploum | cool :-) | 11:19 |
| ploum | I didn't hear much feedback from nederlandstaligen after the ubuntu-be meeting | 11:19 |
| JanC | there weren't that many there I guess, but those that were are really interested | 11:20 |
| JanC | and some others are interested too | 11:20 |
| ploum | cool :-) | 11:20 |
| JanC | some of the people that I know are interested were at other talks or even helping out with the organisation | 11:21 |
| ploum | I understand | 11:21 |
| ploum | But it's cool they are interested | 11:22 |
| JanC | also some people didn't come to fosdem--not everybody is a geek! ;-) | 11:22 |
| ploum | the only bad point is the bad guy who was late and who was always joking during my speech | 11:22 |
| ploum | (follow my eyes) | 11:22 |
| JanC | hehe :P | 11:22 |
| ploum | Someone started a forum to discuss about ubuntu-be between us. I'm not sure it's a good idea but it exists : http://www.carolinux.be/ | 11:23 |
| ploum | you have to register | 11:23 |
| JanC | I don't really like web forums ;-) | 11:23 |
| JanC | ploum: do you know the people who registered ubuntu-linux.be or ubuntulinux.be ? | 11:26 |
| JanC | to me it seems like they only try to profit from ubuntu's popularity :-( | 11:27 |
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| JanC | hm ubuntu-linux.be is now redirected to a webmail | 11:27 |
| JanC | but www.ubuntulinux.be still redirects to a company website that doesn't even mention ubuntu... | 11:28 |
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