=== dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:06] back. :( === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] hi Hobbsee [12:13] hey LaserJock === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] hi seth [12:21] I had to turn Xgl off to watch video [12:21] hiya LaserJock [12:22] so does Xgl run regular stuff faster? or is it just bling? [12:22] its all bling [12:22] and only works on a few bits of hardware [12:23] people like to harp on how it makes things appear "smoother" by redrawing damage in an offscreen buffer [12:23] KDE won't even load with Xgl on the i810 driver [12:23] but that makes it play video at half speed [12:23] on my geforce4 ti [12:24] not what i consider a low end piece of equipment [12:25] I kinda wish X was faster but I kinda like the bling too. OSX has really nice bling I'm finding. [12:25] OS X bling is nice === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] isn't graphical interface at all just bling? :-P [12:45] minghua uses one of those keyboards with 4 keys, 0, 1, abort, and enter [12:45] real men don't need abort [12:46] minghua: to some degree I agree, but there are quite a few apps that just aren't the same in ASCII art ;-) [12:46] yeah, well, you shouldn't need enter either. you should just code that in with extra 1s and 0s [12:46] LaserJock: he plays games like UT with libaa :) [12:46] abort is for wussies, real men don't need to abort because their programs never have bugs [12:47] btw I never claimed I don't like bling, or I am a real man :-) [12:47] Xgl looks great, but simply is way too immature at this time. especially if something like GNOME MouseKeys crashes it. :( === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] hi raphink [01:21] hello LaserJock <>< [01:21] how's it going? [01:22] quite good :) [01:22] just back from playing billards with a friend [01:22] and I tried to install Kubuntu DF4 and enable Xgl+compiz to see if it worked "out of the box" [01:23] how about you LaserJock ? [01:24] I tried to get Flight 4 to install in a OSX qemu but it kept freezing. Breezey installed ok though. [01:24] I'm trying to work on the Packaging Guide and figure if I need to do some UVF exception requests [01:25] I should be doing a lot more work at school but Ubuntu is much more exciting [01:25] hehe indeed :) [01:26] LaserJock: is the packaging guide to be released with dapper? [01:26] yes [01:26] maybe I should spend some time helping you then [01:26] I'm going to work on REVU2 I think [01:26] then a bit on klik [01:27] and I might get some time to work on the packaging guide if you want me in ;) [01:27] it's in the gnome-help, I'm not sure if it is in KDE yet [01:27] raphink: any help is always welcome, I'd like at least to get some MOTU's to look it over when I'm reasonablly done [01:28] sure :) [01:28] I have to set some goals now [01:28] reviewing is not a priority anymore [01:28] so my main activity is gone ;) [01:28] and I'm not much of a bug fixer ;) [01:31] I'm not very good at bug fixing either, it seems like it usually comes down to something upstream needs to fix. [01:31] mhm [01:31] I'll let people who are good at it fix bugs ;) [01:32] I'll review and upload fixes when that's useful ;) [01:32] but I enjoy developping more [01:32] if I can do it [01:33] everybody has their specialization === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@12-211-125-247.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] LaserJock: sure :) [01:34] I'll like organizing and documenting, and merging ;-) [01:35] yes, too :) [01:35] I had fun working on the wiki [01:36] :) [01:40] I think I'll be waiting a bit for klik [01:40] although I think it's already in a distro === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBB43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-150-142.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBB43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["...] === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] hi marcin` [03:20] LaserJock: hi === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5486EE41.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson groans === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] dolson: what's wrong? [03:44] LaserJock: oh lots of things. :) [03:44] hi [03:45] LaserJock: I just discovered some sore spots on my head... gotta ask the doc about that. and I'm disappointed at the Gnome screensaver stuff on the -devel list [03:45] I see [03:45] I guess I'm stupid to think that a screensaver that requires configuration options should be configurable to be user-friendly === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] dolson: well, to be honest I really don't understand why Gnome what it does sometimes. I've given up trying to figure out what they are thinking. For the most part it works for me so I leave it at that. [03:48] LaserJock: yeah, but it is a source for headaches.. maybe that's where the sore spots came from! [03:48] lol, could be. I've got a hole in my tooth I need to get fixed. Maybe it is from all the Malone bugs ;-) === freeflying [n=zhengpen@60.166.3.94] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] I need to get my wisdom teeth pulled, not looking forward to that === freeflying [n=zhengpen@60.166.3.94] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBB43.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] LaserJock: remember our discussion we had yesterday about problems with collaboration? === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] marcin`: sorry, was eating dinner. yes, I remember [04:11] is that bug ok to fix? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/32905 [04:11] malone bug 32905 in exiv2 "improper split -dev and lib and dependencies there of" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [04:11] I just filed it, and I am willing to fix it [04:19] hub: looks like proper analysis to me [04:20] minghua: well I'm having the problem [04:20] when I see how the package is made, I'm not surprised [04:20] I'll fix it [04:20] debian has a newer version anyway [04:21] I'll check it a report upstream to have it fixed [04:25] LaserJock: no problem... [04:25] so the question is do I upload directly or not === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-95.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] LaserJock: anyway today I just realized that vtigercm package in REVU is broken [04:27] hub: my understanding is that for new debian version you need a UVF exception, right? so I'll just upload the fix if I were you [04:28] LaserJock: and is broken because Maintainer removed my changes but did it wothout care so now package doesn't work properly in few cases [04:28] no [04:28] not new debian [04:28] juste a patch of this one [04:28] I didn';t intend to update from debian [04:32] minghua: new debian version is ok, just not new upstream version [04:33] LaserJock: oh yes your are right [04:36] marcin`: ok, well can you make a patch to fix it? [04:37] LaserJock: afaik new debian version not ok [04:37] LaserJock: anyway I'm just fixing the package in place [04:37] LaserJock: I'll check the debian package in sid and submit a debdiff [04:38] hub: no, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpstreamVersionFreeze [04:39] LaserJock: new debian = upstream [04:39] no === g14 [n=SEJeff@12-211-125-247.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] "The point at which we cease accepting new upstream versions of packages, whether they are sourced from Debian or not." [04:41] yeah, whether they come from Debian or not we don't take any newer upstream versions which is not the Debian versions [04:42] well whatever. [04:42] there is not need to get a newer version [04:42] just fixing the package [04:42] right [04:42] the newer version will come after the release [04:48] uploaded [04:49] sweet === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:42] Seveas: is someone working on the hoary and dapper fixes for CAN-2006-0579? [06:45] (rather, did you coordinate w/ someone to push in those fixes?) === at1as__ [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] hello MOTUS [07:26] hi zak [07:44] c [07:44] crap... [07:45] d [07:45] darn... [07:45] heh! [07:46] Twas the wrong window, as sometimes my KVM decides to hahve a little screw up. :) === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] hellp [09:17] hello [09:17] who is "Gauvain Pocentek"? [09:17] 'lo fabbione [09:18] hey crimsun [09:18] does he IRC? [09:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gauvain [09:18] thanks [09:19] he is not online [09:19] i assume he is a fresh MOTU [09:19] right? [09:19] can somebody please explain to him that: [09:19] Changes: [09:19] splay (0.9.5.2-7build1) dapper; urgency=low [09:19] . [09:19] * Ubuntu rebuild [09:19] makes no sense [09:20] there must be a reason for a rebuild.. [09:20] specially for 4 pkgs... [09:20] he doesn't have upload right afaict [09:20] oh i see [09:20] ah ah ah === fabbione warms up the big fat clue bat [09:20] hmm where is he? [09:23] ok [09:23] thanks for the info guys [09:23] np :) === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:50] hey Gloubiboulga [09:51] hey zakame :) [09:51] Gloubiboulga: fabbione was looking for you earlier, re: 4 pkgs with `Ubuntu rebuild' in the debian/changelog [09:51] Changes: [09:51] splay (0.9.5.2-7build1) dapper; urgency=low [09:51] . [09:51] * Ubuntu rebuild [09:51] makes no sense [09:51] there must be a reason for a rebuild.. [09:51] specially for 4 pkgs... [10:03] zakame, yes, I mailed me [10:04] he mailed me* [10:04] ah === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-104.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:04] heya poningru [10:04] I've posted debdiffs on malone for the unmet deps, but have not been precise in the changelog [10:05] this won't happen again ;) === jsg_ [n=jsg@125.212.125.7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:33] Is there any way in malone to search only for universe bugs? [10:33] If there is, I haven't found it yet. :) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] TheMuso: not that I know [10:37] TheMuso: but when you look at a bug, using the package overview tells you whether it's a universe or main package === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] Right. I guess another way would be to look up one's apt-cache to see where it is from. === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.41.251] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vuntz [n=vuntz@ctse33.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] hrm is anyone here using apache2 on breezy with suexec on vhosts? [11:02] i cant seem to get mine to play ball and im wondering if theres a bug [11:02] if i pout the SuexecUserGroup line in, the scripts give "immature end of headers back", bu the same script runs fine if i suexec it with mod_userdir (e.g. ~lathiat/squaa.org/test.cgi rather than squaa.org/test.cgi) === highvoltage [n=Jono@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:10] uh oh [11:10] tv is now showing tanks [11:13] oh crap === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gusaweb [n=gusaweb@lns-bzn-39-82-255-52-13.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === racoon97 [n=racoon97@APointe-a-Pitre-102-1-6-154.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] yop gusaweb racoon97 [11:19] raphink> hi :) [11:19] && hello jpatrick too :) [11:19] raphink hello [11:20] yo raphink [11:20] :) [11:20] pretty silent today :) [11:21] do you remember what this XDG .desktop file thing was about? [11:21] I'm adding it to the PackagingGuide [11:21] sure jpatrick I documented it on the wiki [11:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Reviewing#head-8ee1f680b469a5bb2c262876490529a32362cf9d [11:21] jpatrick: there are links to FreeDesktop.org [11:21] great === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBE6F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nelk [n=nelk@mtl93-7-82-238-70-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:35] c [11:35] sorry wrong window again. [11:35] lol [11:37] Has to do with switching back to this machine with my KVM. I could press the button on the KVM as I moved it onto my desk today, but am still used to using the keyboard to switch around. [11:37] And speakup sometimes likes to play tricks on me. === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gusaweb [n=gusaweb@lns-bzn-39-82-255-52-13.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] hi [11:52] hi Tonio_ === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] hi [11:52] hello Gloubiboulga [12:02] Hey, what's the best way to dist-upgrade to dapper right now? [12:02] dist-upgrade [12:02] With apt, that is. :) [12:03] ^^ [12:03] dist-upgrade alone, does not prove to work. === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ssam [n=sam@80-41-78-121.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] change all breezy's to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list [12:03] Where's the Hoary to Breezy upgrade wiki? [12:04] or ask in #ubuntu [12:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade [12:04] That's the one. :) [12:05] I remember someone saying using that, was safer than just dist-upgrade. and since I have a server running Dapper, now, and it had problems JUST dist-upgrading, with just very bare minimums, I don't want to just dist-upgrade. [12:06] ? === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:07] Hmm. That's odd.. [12:07] I was banned in #ubuntu, and I haven't even been there for days.. [12:08] dist-upgrade can remove packages [12:09] i wondered if somebody could talk me though fixing bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/falconseye/+bug/31096 [12:09] malone bug 31096 in falconseye "menu entries of some games not correct" [Normal,Confirmed] [12:10] let me look at that.. [12:10] i am pretty sure it just involves changing the .desktop files for a number of packages [12:11] or change the $PATH [12:11] huh? [12:11] the gnome games use a full path like /usr/games/sol [12:11] /usr/games isn't in PATH? [12:12] afaik, /usr/games isn't in PATH only for uid 0 [12:12] that is - root [12:12] it is in my $PATH === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.175] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] its not in mine, i installed off a nightly about a week ago === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:17] maybe its https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/30287 [12:17] malone bug 30287 in coreutils "$PATH screwed up; fixable but doesn't stay after reboot" [Normal,Unconfirmed] === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nomed [n=nomed@host66-124.pool872.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] siretart: ping [12:20] ivoks: hey ivoks! long time no see, how are you? [12:21] broken :( you? [12:21] i had a major accident on skiing :/ [12:21] but... i have one question [12:22] i fixed one bug in vpnc, should I ask for UVF exception or just upload it? === fredix [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] ivoks: oh,. sad to hear :( - I hope you'll recover soon! [12:28] ivoks: if the fix doesn't include a new upstream version, which may break other stuff, just upload it [12:29] ok [12:29] it recreates /var/run/vpnc [12:29] i hate that /var/run on tmpfs :/ [12:30] thanks [12:31] ah, then its obvious. just fix and upload. [12:31] and send a copy of your patch as wishlist bug to debian, so that they can include that in their next upload, faciliating our next merge [12:32] do they have /var/run on tmpfs too? [12:32] if not, then they don't need this [12:33] but i will send it... [12:33] ivoks: there are plans to introduce that in debian as well === siretart lunch - cu later [12:33] bye [12:33] bon appetit :) === racoon97 is now known as z_racoon97 === z_racoon97 is now known as racoon97 [12:42] hi [12:43] what about this bug ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libgtk-mozembed-ruby1.8/+bug/6631 [12:43] malone bug 6631 in libgtk-mozembed-ruby1.8 "libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file" [Normal,Confirmed] [12:47] Does should I change the severity tag to critical ? [12:48] a fix would be even better ;) [12:49] siretart: sure, but how and who ? [12:49] fredix: who: everyone. how: I don't know about ruby [12:50] siretart: I suggested to rebuild the package, because it is fixed in Debian testing/sid [12:51] siretart: So who can rebuild this package ? === racoon97 [n=racoon97@APointe-a-Pitre-102-1-6-154.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["An] [12:51] fredix: ah, after having a loog at this, it seems to be debian #345888 [12:51] debian bug 345888 in libgtk-mozembed-ruby1.8 "package has no lib files." [ so this bug can be fixed by just syncing it [12:52] siretart: great, so who can syncing ? :) [12:53] elmo hasn't processed syncs since 3 weeks :( [12:53] he's working on the code [12:53] this reminds me. I wanted to do another sync report, I will add this sync [12:54] ok [01:01] slomo_: do you have any open sync requests? [01:01] slomo_: could you please paste them me somewhere? I'm preparing a sync summary [01:03] siretart: libgtk-trayicon-ruby1.8 have the same prob, but not fixed in debian ... [01:08] siretart: see the answer to your sync-thread on -motu :) [01:09] slomo: I don't find your answer [01:10] I see only answers from sistpoty, \sh, dholbach [01:10] siretart: "Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:45:57 +0100" [01:11] siretart: but for mono-tools we already have a newer version so remove that [01:11] slomo_: please bounce me that message, or better, give me an updated list, please [01:13] siretart: you can sync libgdiplus, gtk-sharp2, ikvm, nemerle, banshee, ipod-sharp, libipoddevice, gmime2.1... xsp and mod-mono have new upstream versions now in debian so we can't sync them anymore *shrug* === spacey [n=herman@a82-93-13-195.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] email sent [01:16] okay, another mplayer bug bites the dust [01:21] siretart, ping .... [01:21] ogra: hi [01:21] ogra: did I break something? [01:21] :) [01:21] siretart, sorry for 6620, i wasnt aware of it ... [01:21] didnt know you were working on it [01:21] ogra: no problem, I'm glad you fixed that [01:21] ogra: I just subscribed you before closing it, I hope this didn't annoy you too much [01:22] nah [01:22] i knew there was such a bug, but malone didnt want to sow it to me .... [01:22] *show === ogra thinks sometimes that we probably shouldnt interpret "full text search" with "you need to enter the full text to find it" [01:24] I know about every mplayer bug, because the motumedia team is bug contact for mplayer and other multimedia related packages [01:24] ah [01:24] Seveas: nut? === gusaweb [n=gusaweb@lns-bzn-37-82-253-18-60.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] siretart, see my previous mails about it to the motu list [01:26] tuesday, 15:59 and friday 17:05 [01:28] Seveas: besides that the UVF request was not granted yet, did you really check that the packages builds and works correctly in dapper? which version did you check? [01:28] a mail with the body 'nut' does not suggest me that ;) [01:29] lol ;) [01:29] I did not check the very latest yet, will do now [01:35] raphink: we did not agree on the UVF of wesnoth yet [01:35] that is UVFER (exception request) === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBE6F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] who is Sasha Tsykin? === nomed_ [n=nomed@host89-124.pool872.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] siretart: ping [02:08] bmonty: hey, long time no see, how are you? [02:09] siretart: doing well [02:09] siretart: question on the open sync email [02:09] I think it is missing the packages from the wiki WorkInProgress page === siretart doesn't see your question [02:10] siretart: I think it is missing the packages from the wiki WorkInProgress page [02:11] did it make it through that time? [02:11] bmonty: I didn't check any wiki pages. [02:11] OK, do you want me to put the packages on the wiki page in to an email? [02:14] that would be great === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-175.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] OK, will do [02:15] I think collecting syncs via email is a better idea. I know that others don't, so I do this experiment. === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] siretart: thanks for making the effort, we definately needed a change from how it was being done before [02:20] https://launchpad.net/people/motu/+poll/motu-workflow [02:20] so nobody voted on using WorkInProgress, most of them voted for using the mailing list. [02:21] I conclude from that that my opinion seems to be the majority [02:22] I think that eventually Malone needs to have features to support MOTU work [02:22] bmonty: will add your sync request in the next summary next sunday [02:22] ok, thanks [02:24] grr, #python is useless....anyone done any external module development for python? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@125.212.125.7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-091-017.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === at1as___ [n=at1as@24-247-15-243.static.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:48] hey zakame [03:48] hello MOTUs! :D [03:48] hi bmonty! :D === ivoks [n=ivoks@161.53.50.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBE6F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-motu ["...] === vuntz [n=vuntz@ctse19.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === _jason [n=jasonr@dhcp0534.hrn.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rcliii [n=rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gusaweb [n=gusaweb@lns-bzn-37-82-253-18-60.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth_ [n=travis@24-117-51-164.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:04] #ubuntu-doc [05:04] sorry [05:04] :) === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] siretart, newer nut builds and installs perfectly fine on dapper - can't comment on usage since I don't have a UPS === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-251-119-104.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pietrus [n=pietrus@c92583d3.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nomed [n=nomed@host89-124.pool872.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-150-142.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-46-11.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] hi folks === trappist [i=trappist@tra.ppi.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:46] how to mark a bug report as a dupe in malone? [06:47] trappist: there should be a link "mark bug as duplicate" (on the right side iirc) [06:48] dolson: I'm just filing a few bug reports and assign them to you for your packages that have made it into the archive that lack a manpage [06:49] sistpoty: thanks, totally missed that [06:49] np === terrex [n=capitant@84-122-88-34.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c128096.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === sistpoty is off again... cya [07:08] ( o Y o ) === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:21] hello! [07:21] I contribute directly to Debian which eventually percolate down to Ubuntu ... will this contribution count as contribution to Ubuntu? === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-119-121.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] G0SUB: yes [07:46] jpatrick awesome [07:46] all deb devs == ubuntu devs [07:46] jpatrick I am the maintainer of two debian packages in main & also the lead translator of Debian G-I to Bengali [07:47] cool [07:48] jpatrick I wonder if I could do some exclusive ubuntu work too [07:48] jpatrick if you have any packages to maintain, I'd be happy to help [07:49] I can't go though the NM process because I hardly the deb devs [07:49] jpatrick but you are a Ubuntu member ... you can help me with that at least [07:50] I'm MOTU [07:50] aah, a MOTU awesome [07:51] jpatrick can you tell me how I can help? [07:52] right now it's limited to bug fixing [07:52] I see, I can do that too [07:53] http://launchpad.net/people/motu/+assignedbugs [07:55] jpatrick how do I submit fixes? [07:55] get an MOTU to upload it [07:55] ok ... [07:55] jpatrick can/will you? [07:55] sure [07:56] great! :) [07:57] jpatrick one query ... if the bug is fixed in sid, will it still be open in malone? [07:57] if it hasn't been synced no [07:57] hmm === raptoid [n=raptoid@85.96.31.64] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] jpatrick can you point me to some easyfix bug? [08:04] G0SUB: maybe the motu-reviewers team? https://launchpad.net/people/motureviewers/+assignedbugs [08:06] okay, those look easy enough! [08:07] btw, do I need to join the team to submit fixes? or do I just prepare the fixed package and ask someone here? [08:07] prepare and ask [08:07] ok [08:25] lol: Accepted cdebootstrap 0.3.11 (source i386) [08:25] * "The too late for Dapper, but not for Etch" upload [08:25] err, that was this one: Accepted rsibreak 0.5.0-1 (source i386) [08:25] not cdebootstrap [08:26] when's Etch due for release? March [08:26] March 2009 or so? [08:26] haha [08:27] dolson: currently debian targets december 2006 for etch release. currently debian is still on track for that date [08:27] whoa.. why so soon? [08:27] 18 months since sarge was targeted [08:28] that's fast for debian though [08:28] I don't wanna have to reboot my server *again* this Christmas [08:28] dolson: they targeted 18 month for sarge as well, but there were some, uhm, lets say, 'exceptional circumstances' [08:29] branden's aim in life is to have faster releases in debian [08:31] I guess I don't have to upgrade my server if I don't want to. ah well, I'm sure there'll be a power outage long enough to trip my UPS shortly after the release === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] G0SUB: is Branden going to release 8 versions of Etch? if so, I want to get Etch Ultimate for my system! :) [08:34] dolson haha! === biovore [n=kvirc@c-68-54-94-223.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:41] jpatrick [08:41] I have fixed Malone #6587 [08:41] malone bug 6587 in seahorse "[patch] Seahorse uses wrong category Cryptography in .desktop file" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6587 [08:42] kindly take a look at http://zope.gnowledge.org:8080/ubuntu/seahorse/ [08:43] G0SUB: native package [08:43] ? [08:44] there's no .orig.tar.gz or .diff file [08:44] oh, ok ... in a sec [08:46] G0SUB: making a .diff for the patch is better than touch the orig src === godiane [n=godiane@58.69.4.157] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] jpatrick http://zope.gnowledge.org:8080/ubuntu/seahorse/diff.patch [08:51] is it ok now? === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:54] looks okay [08:54] jpatrick :) [08:55] when will it be uploaded? [08:56] when I've done [08:56] okay [08:56] jpatrick when are you online usually? I will do more fixes tomorrow ... it's 01:26 here, I will leave now [08:57] I'm online most of the time [08:57] jpatrick yes, but we are in diff. TZs [08:57] I hope you sleep for sometime :) [08:58] I'm GMT + 1 [08:59] okay [08:59] I am +05:30 [08:59] see you tomorrow [08:59] good night [08:59] night [09:00] jpatrick I hope I didn't bug you too much .... [09:00] not at all [09:00] :) [09:00] bye === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBE6F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] re === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549FBE6F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable023.222-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] does the package mathomatic have a gui? [10:14] I don't think so [10:15] k === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:16] it has libncurses5 [10:16] yeah but I mean the package itself is not a gui right? [10:18] not gui deps [10:19] s/no/not === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === g14 [n=SEJeff@12-211-125-247.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jroes [i=jroes@everest.sosdg.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] hey guys - I'm not sure if I am experienced enough to go about this - but it appears the samba package may depend on mailutils [11:01] its panic script uses the mail binary, which is in mailutils === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:03] I'm still getting acquainted to the whole scene, so I'm not sure my claim is even correct yet === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === basbryan [n=bryan@c-68-53-233-250.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === basbryan [n=bryan@c-68-53-233-250.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:18] I put in a bug report, hopefully I don't get flamed :x [11:18] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/32987 [11:18] malone bug 32987 in samba "Samba depends on mailutils/mailx" [Normal,Unconfirmed] === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rave_ [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-78-35.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu