[12:06] <dolson> back. :(
[12:13] <LaserJock> hi Hobbsee
[12:13] <Hobbsee> hey LaserJock
[12:21] <LaserJock> hi seth
[12:21] <tseng> I had to turn Xgl off to watch video
[12:21] <seth> hiya LaserJock
[12:22] <LaserJock> so does Xgl run regular stuff faster? or is it just bling?
[12:22] <tseng> its all bling
[12:22] <tseng> and only works on a few bits of hardware
[12:23] <tseng> people like to harp on how it makes things appear "smoother" by redrawing damage in an offscreen buffer
[12:23] <crimsun> KDE won't even load with Xgl on the i810 driver
[12:23] <tseng> but that makes it play video at half speed
[12:23] <tseng> on my geforce4 ti
[12:24] <tseng> not what i consider a low end piece of equipment
[12:25] <LaserJock> I kinda wish X was faster but I kinda like the bling too. OSX has really nice bling I'm finding.
[12:25] <Amaranth> OS X bling is nice
[12:43] <minghua> isn't graphical interface at all just bling? :-P
[12:45] <dolson> minghua uses one of those keyboards with 4 keys, 0, 1, abort, and enter
[12:45] <minghua> real men don't need abort
[12:46] <LaserJock> minghua: to some degree I agree, but there are quite a few apps that just aren't the same in ASCII art ;-)
[12:46] <dolson> yeah, well, you shouldn't need enter either. you should just code that in with extra 1s and 0s
[12:46] <dolson> LaserJock: he plays games like UT with libaa :)
[12:46] <crimsun> abort is for wussies, real men don't need to abort because their programs never have bugs
[12:47] <minghua> btw I never claimed I don't like bling, or I am a real man :-)
[12:47] <dolson> Xgl looks great, but simply is way too immature at this time. especially if something like GNOME MouseKeys crashes it. :(
[01:20] <LaserJock> hi raphink
[01:21] <raphink> hello LaserJock <><
[01:21] <LaserJock> how's it going?
[01:22] <raphink> quite good :)
[01:22] <raphink> just back from playing billards with a friend
[01:22] <raphink> and I tried to install Kubuntu DF4 and enable Xgl+compiz to see if it worked "out of the box"
[01:23] <raphink> how about you LaserJock ?
[01:24] <LaserJock> I tried to get Flight 4 to install in a OSX qemu but it kept freezing. Breezey installed ok though.
[01:24] <LaserJock> I'm trying to work on the Packaging Guide and figure if I need to do some UVF exception requests
[01:25] <LaserJock> I should be doing a lot more work at school but Ubuntu is much more exciting
[01:25] <raphink> hehe indeed :)
[01:26] <raphink> LaserJock: is the packaging guide to be released with dapper?
[01:26] <LaserJock> yes
[01:26] <raphink> maybe I should spend some time helping you then
[01:26] <raphink> I'm going to work on REVU2 I think
[01:26] <raphink> then a bit on klik
[01:27] <raphink> and I might get some time to work on the packaging guide if you want me in ;)
[01:27] <LaserJock> it's in the gnome-help, I'm not sure if it is in KDE yet
[01:27] <LaserJock> raphink: any help is always welcome, I'd like at least to get some MOTU's to look it over when I'm reasonablly done
[01:28] <raphink> sure :)
[01:28] <raphink> I have to set some goals now
[01:28] <raphink> reviewing is not a priority anymore
[01:28] <raphink> so my main activity is gone ;)
[01:28] <raphink> and I'm not much of a bug fixer ;)
[01:31] <LaserJock> I'm not very good at bug fixing either, it seems like it usually comes down to something upstream needs to fix.
[01:31] <raphink> mhm
[01:31] <raphink> I'll let people who are good at it fix bugs ;)
[01:32] <raphink> I'll review and upload fixes when that's useful ;)
[01:32] <raphink> but I enjoy developping more
[01:32] <raphink> if I can do it
[01:33] <LaserJock> everybody has their specialization
[01:34] <raphink> LaserJock: sure :)
[01:34] <LaserJock> I'll like organizing and documenting, and merging ;-)
[01:35] <raphink> yes, too :)
[01:35] <raphink> I had fun working on the wiki
[01:36] <raphink> :)
[01:40] <raphink> I think I'll be waiting a bit for klik
[01:40] <raphink> although I think it's already in a distro
[03:19] <LaserJock> hi marcin`
[03:20] <marcin`> LaserJock: hi
[03:43] <LaserJock> dolson: what's wrong?
[03:44] <dolson> LaserJock: oh lots of things. :)
[03:44] <Se7h> hi
[03:45] <dolson> LaserJock: I just discovered some sore spots on my head... gotta ask the doc about that. and I'm disappointed at the Gnome screensaver stuff on the -devel list
[03:45] <LaserJock> I see
[03:45] <dolson> I guess I'm stupid to think that a screensaver that requires configuration options should be configurable to be user-friendly
[03:47] <LaserJock> dolson: well, to be honest I really don't understand why Gnome what it does sometimes. I've given up trying to figure out what they are thinking. For the most part it works for me so I leave it at that.
[03:48] <dolson> LaserJock: yeah, but it is a source for headaches.. maybe that's where the sore spots came from!
[03:48] <LaserJock> lol, could be. I've got a hole in my tooth I need to get fixed. Maybe it is from all the Malone bugs ;-)
[03:50] <dolson> I need to get my wisdom teeth pulled, not looking forward to that
[03:54] <marcin`> LaserJock: remember our discussion we had yesterday about problems with collaboration?
[04:11] <LaserJock> marcin`: sorry, was eating dinner. yes, I remember
[04:11] <hub> is that bug ok to fix? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/exiv2/+bug/32905
[04:11] <Ubugtu> malone bug 32905 in exiv2 "improper split -dev and lib and dependencies there of" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[04:11] <hub> I just filed it, and I am willing to fix it
[04:19] <minghua> hub: looks like proper analysis to me
[04:20] <hub> minghua: well I'm having the problem
[04:20] <hub> when I see how the package is made, I'm not surprised
[04:20] <hub> I'll fix it
[04:20] <hub> debian has a newer version anyway
[04:21] <hub> I'll check it a report upstream to have it fixed
[04:25] <marcin`> LaserJock: no problem...
[04:25] <hub> so the question is do I upload directly or not
[04:27] <marcin`> LaserJock: anyway today I just realized that vtigercm package in REVU is broken
[04:27] <minghua> hub: my understanding is that for new debian version you need a UVF exception, right?  so I'll just upload the fix if I were you
[04:28] <marcin`> LaserJock: and is broken because Maintainer removed my changes but did it wothout care so now package doesn't work properly in few cases
[04:28] <hub> no
[04:28] <hub> not new debian
[04:28] <hub> juste a patch of this one
[04:28] <hub> I didn';t intend to update from debian
[04:32] <LaserJock> minghua: new debian version is ok, just not new upstream version
[04:33] <minghua> LaserJock: oh yes your are right
[04:36] <LaserJock> marcin`: ok, well can you make a patch to fix it?
[04:37] <hub> LaserJock: afaik new debian version not ok
[04:37] <hub> LaserJock: anyway I'm just fixing the package in place
[04:37] <hub> LaserJock: I'll check the debian package in sid and submit a debdiff
[04:38] <LaserJock> hub: no, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpstreamVersionFreeze
[04:39] <hub> LaserJock: new debian = upstream
[04:39] <LaserJock> no
[04:40] <hub> "The point at which we cease accepting new upstream versions of packages, whether they are sourced from Debian or not."
[04:41] <LaserJock> yeah, whether they come from Debian or not we don't take any newer upstream versions which is not the Debian versions
[04:42] <hub> well whatever.
[04:42] <hub> there is not need to get a newer version
[04:42] <hub> just fixing the package
[04:42] <LaserJock> right
[04:42] <hub> the newer version will come after the release
[04:48] <hub> uploaded
[04:49] <LaserJock> sweet
[06:42] <crimsun> Seveas: is someone working on the hoary and dapper fixes for CAN-2006-0579?
[06:45] <crimsun> (rather, did you coordinate w/ someone to push in those fixes?)
[07:24] <zakame> hello MOTUS
[07:26] <crimsun> hi zak
[07:44] <TheMuso> c
[07:44] <TheMuso> crap...
[07:45] <jsgotangco> d
[07:45] <jsgotangco> darn...
[07:45] <TheMuso> heh!
[07:46] <TheMuso> Twas the wrong window, as sometimes my KVM decides to hahve a little screw up. :)
[09:17] <fabbione> hellp
[09:17] <fabbione> hello
[09:17] <fabbione> who is "Gauvain Pocentek"?
[09:17] <crimsun> 'lo fabbione
[09:18] <fabbione> hey crimsun
[09:18] <fabbione> does he IRC?
[09:18] <robitaille> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gauvain
[09:18] <fabbione> thanks
[09:19] <fabbione> he is  not online
[09:19] <fabbione> i assume he is a fresh MOTU
[09:19] <fabbione> right?
[09:19] <fabbione> can somebody please explain to him that:
[09:19] <fabbione> Changes:
[09:19] <fabbione>  splay (0.9.5.2-7build1) dapper; urgency=low
[09:19] <fabbione>  .
[09:19] <fabbione>    * Ubuntu rebuild
[09:19] <fabbione> makes no sense
[09:20] <fabbione> there must be a reason for a rebuild..
[09:20] <fabbione> specially for 4 pkgs...
[09:20] <crimsun> he doesn't have upload right afaict
[09:20] <fabbione> oh i see
[09:20] <fabbione> ah ah ah
[09:20] <zakame> hmm where is he?
[09:23] <fabbione> ok
[09:23] <fabbione> thanks for the info guys
[09:23] <crimsun> np :)
[09:50] <zakame> hey Gloubiboulga
[09:51] <Gloubiboulga> hey zakame :)
[09:51] <zakame> Gloubiboulga: fabbione was looking for you earlier, re: 4 pkgs with `Ubuntu rebuild' in the debian/changelog
 Changes:
  splay (0.9.5.2-7build1) dapper; urgency=low
  .
    * Ubuntu rebuild
 makes no sense
 there must be a reason for a rebuild..
 specially for 4 pkgs...
[10:03] <Gloubiboulga> zakame, yes, I mailed me
[10:04] <Gloubiboulga> he mailed me*
[10:04] <zakame> ah
[10:04] <zakame> heya poningru
[10:04] <Gloubiboulga> I've posted debdiffs on malone for the unmet deps, but have not been precise in the changelog
[10:05] <Gloubiboulga> this won't happen again ;)
[10:33] <TheMuso> Is there any way in malone to search only for universe bugs?
[10:33] <TheMuso> If there is, I haven't found it yet. :)
[10:37] <raphink> TheMuso: not that I know
[10:37] <raphink> TheMuso: but when you look at a bug, using the package overview tells you whether it's a universe or main package
[10:38] <TheMuso> Right. I guess another way would be to look up one's apt-cache to see where it is from.
[11:02] <Lathiat> hrm is anyone here using apache2 on breezy with suexec on vhosts?
[11:02] <Lathiat> i cant seem to get mine to play ball and im wondering if theres a bug
[11:02] <Lathiat> if i pout the SuexecUserGroup line in, the scripts give "immature end of headers back", bu the same script runs fine if i suexec it with mod_userdir (e.g. ~lathiat/squaa.org/test.cgi rather than squaa.org/test.cgi)
[11:10] <jsgotangco> uh oh
[11:10] <jsgotangco> tv is now showing tanks
[11:13] <jsgotangco> oh crap
[11:19] <raphink> yop gusaweb racoon97
[11:19] <racoon97> raphink>  hi :)
[11:19] <raphink> && hello jpatrick too :)
[11:19] <gusaweb> raphink hello
[11:20] <jpatrick> yo raphink
[11:20] <raphink> :)
[11:20] <raphink> pretty silent today :)
[11:21] <jpatrick> do you remember what this XDG .desktop file thing was about?
[11:21] <jpatrick> I'm adding it to the PackagingGuide
[11:21] <raphink> sure jpatrick I documented it on the wiki
[11:21] <raphink> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Reviewing#head-8ee1f680b469a5bb2c262876490529a32362cf9d
[11:21] <raphink> jpatrick: there are links to FreeDesktop.org
[11:21] <jpatrick> great
[11:35] <TheMuso> c
[11:35] <TheMuso> sorry wrong window again.
[11:35] <jsgotangco> lol
[11:37] <TheMuso> Has to do with switching back to this machine with my KVM. I could press the button on the KVM as I moved it onto my desk today, but am still used to using the keyboard to switch around.
[11:37] <TheMuso> And speakup sometimes likes to play tricks on me.
[11:51] <Tonio_> hi
[11:52] <Gloubiboulga> hi Tonio_
[11:52] <ivoks> hi
[11:52] <Tonio_> hello Gloubiboulga
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> Hey, what's the best way to dist-upgrade to dapper right now?
[12:02] <ivoks> dist-upgrade
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> With apt, that is. :)
[12:03] <jpatrick> ^^
[12:03] <Psi-Jack> dist-upgrade alone, does not prove to work.
[12:03] <jpatrick> change all breezy's to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:03] <Psi-Jack> Where's the Hoary to Breezy upgrade wiki?
[12:04] <ivoks> or ask in #ubuntu
[12:04] <ssam> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:04] <Psi-Jack> That's the one. :)
[12:05] <Psi-Jack> I remember someone saying using that, was safer than just dist-upgrade. and since I have a server running Dapper, now, and it had problems JUST dist-upgrading, with just very bare minimums, I don't want to just dist-upgrade.
[12:06] <ivoks> ?
[12:07] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. That's odd..
[12:07] <Psi-Jack> I was banned in #ubuntu, and I haven't even been there for days..
[12:08] <ssam> dist-upgrade can remove packages
[12:09] <ssam> i wondered if somebody could talk me though fixing bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/falconseye/+bug/31096
[12:09] <Ubugtu> malone bug 31096 in falconseye "menu entries of some games not correct" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[12:10] <ivoks> let me look at that..
[12:10] <ssam> i am pretty sure it just involves changing the .desktop files for a number of packages
[12:11] <ssam> or change the $PATH
[12:11] <ivoks> huh?
[12:11] <ssam> the gnome games use a full path like /usr/games/sol
[12:11] <ivoks> /usr/games isn't in PATH?
[12:12] <ivoks> afaik, /usr/games isn't in PATH only for uid 0
[12:12] <ivoks> that is - root
[12:12] <ivoks> it is in my $PATH
[12:13] <ssam> its not in mine, i installed off a nightly about a week ago
[12:17] <ssam> maybe its https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/coreutils/+bug/30287
[12:17] <Ubugtu> malone bug 30287 in coreutils "$PATH screwed up; fixable but doesn't stay after reboot" [Normal,Unconfirmed] 
[12:20] <ivoks> siretart: ping
[12:20] <siretart> ivoks: hey ivoks! long time no see, how are you?
[12:21] <ivoks> broken :( you?
[12:21] <ivoks> i had a major accident on skiing :/
[12:21] <ivoks> but... i have one question
[12:22] <ivoks> i fixed one bug in vpnc, should I ask for UVF exception or just upload it?
[12:28] <siretart> ivoks: oh,. sad to hear :( - I hope you'll recover soon!
[12:28] <siretart> ivoks: if the fix doesn't include a new upstream version, which may break other stuff, just upload it
[12:29] <ivoks> ok
[12:29] <ivoks> it recreates /var/run/vpnc
[12:29] <ivoks> i hate that /var/run on tmpfs :/
[12:30] <ivoks> thanks
[12:31] <siretart> ah, then its obvious. just fix and upload.
[12:31] <siretart> and send a copy of your patch as wishlist bug to debian, so that they can include that in their next upload, faciliating our next merge
[12:32] <ivoks> do they have /var/run on tmpfs too?
[12:32] <ivoks> if not, then they don't need this
[12:33] <ivoks> but i will send it...
[12:33] <siretart> ivoks: there are plans to introduce that in debian as well
[12:33] <ivoks> bye
[12:33] <ivoks> bon appetit :)
[12:42] <fredix> hi
[12:43] <fredix> what about this bug ? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libgtk-mozembed-ruby1.8/+bug/6631
[12:43] <Ubugtu> malone bug 6631 in libgtk-mozembed-ruby1.8 "libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file" [Normal,Confirmed] 
[12:47] <fredix> Does should I change the severity tag to critical ?
[12:48] <siretart> a fix would be even better ;)
[12:49] <fredix> siretart: sure, but how and who ?
[12:49] <siretart> fredix: who: everyone. how: I don't know about ruby
[12:50] <fredix> siretart: I suggested to rebuild the package, because it is fixed in Debian testing/sid
[12:51] <fredix> siretart: So who can rebuild this package ?
[12:51] <siretart> fredix: ah, after having a loog at this, it seems to be debian #345888
[12:51] <Ubugtu> debian bug 345888 in libgtk-mozembed-ruby1.8 "package has no lib files." [<em,Fixed]  http://bugs.debian.org/345888
[12:51] <siretart> so this bug can be fixed by just syncing it
[12:52] <fredix> siretart: great, so who can syncing ? :)
[12:53] <siretart> elmo hasn't processed syncs since 3 weeks :(
[12:53] <jpatrick> he's working on the code
[12:53] <siretart> this reminds me. I wanted to do another sync report, I will add this sync
[12:54] <fredix> ok
[01:01] <siretart> slomo_: do you have any open sync requests?
[01:01] <siretart> slomo_: could you please paste them me somewhere? I'm preparing a sync summary
[01:03] <fredix> siretart: libgtk-trayicon-ruby1.8 have the same prob, but not fixed in debian ...
[01:08] <slomo> siretart: see the answer to your sync-thread on -motu :)
[01:09] <siretart> slomo: I don't find your answer
[01:10] <siretart> I see only answers from sistpoty, \sh, dholbach
[01:10] <slomo_> siretart: "Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:45:57 +0100"
[01:11] <slomo_> siretart: but for mono-tools we already have a newer version so remove that
[01:11] <siretart> slomo_: please bounce me that message, or better, give me an updated list, please
[01:13] <slomo_> siretart: you can sync libgdiplus, gtk-sharp2, ikvm, nemerle, banshee, ipod-sharp, libipoddevice, gmime2.1... xsp and mod-mono have new upstream versions now in debian so we can't sync them anymore *shrug*
[01:15] <siretart> email sent
[01:16] <siretart> okay, another mplayer bug bites the dust
[01:21] <ogra> siretart, ping ....
[01:21] <siretart> ogra: hi
[01:21] <siretart> ogra: did I break something?
[01:21] <siretart> :)
[01:21] <ogra> siretart, sorry for 6620, i wasnt aware of it ...
[01:21] <ogra> didnt know you were working on it
[01:21] <siretart> ogra: no problem, I'm glad you fixed that
[01:21] <siretart> ogra: I just subscribed you before closing it, I hope this didn't annoy you too much
[01:22] <ogra> nah
[01:22] <ogra> i knew there was such a bug, but malone didnt want to sow it to me ....
[01:22] <ogra> *show
[01:24] <siretart> I know about every mplayer bug, because the motumedia team is bug contact for mplayer and other multimedia related packages
[01:24] <ogra> ah
[01:24] <siretart> Seveas: nut?
[01:25] <Seveas> siretart, see my previous mails about it to the motu list
[01:26] <Seveas> tuesday, 15:59 and friday 17:05
[01:28] <siretart> Seveas: besides that the UVF request was not granted yet, did you really check that the packages builds and works correctly in dapper? which version did you check?
[01:28] <siretart> a mail with the body 'nut' does not suggest me that ;)
[01:29] <Seveas> lol ;)
[01:29] <Seveas> I did not check the very latest yet, will do now
[01:35] <siretart> raphink: we did not agree on the UVF of wesnoth yet
[01:35] <siretart> that is UVFER (exception request)
[01:45] <siretart> who is Sasha Tsykin?
[02:08] <bmonty> siretart: ping
[02:08] <siretart> bmonty: hey, long time no see, how are you?
[02:09] <bmonty> siretart: doing well
[02:09] <bmonty> siretart: question on the open sync email
[02:09] <bmonty> I think it is missing the packages from the wiki WorkInProgress page
[02:10] <bmonty> siretart: I think it is missing the packages from the wiki WorkInProgress page
[02:11] <bmonty> did it make it through that time?
[02:11] <siretart> bmonty: I didn't check any wiki pages.
[02:11] <bmonty> OK, do you want me to put the packages on the wiki page in to an email?
[02:14] <siretart> that would be great
[02:15] <bmonty> OK, will do
[02:15] <siretart> I think collecting syncs via email is a better idea. I know that others don't, so I do this experiment.
[02:20] <bmonty> siretart: thanks for making the effort, we definately needed a change from how it was being done before
[02:20] <siretart> https://launchpad.net/people/motu/+poll/motu-workflow
[02:20] <siretart> so nobody voted on using WorkInProgress, most of them voted for using the mailing list.
[02:21] <siretart> I conclude from that that my opinion seems to be the majority
[02:22] <bmonty> I think that eventually Malone needs to have features to support MOTU work
[02:22] <siretart> bmonty: will add your sync request in the next summary next sunday
[02:22] <bmonty> ok, thanks
[02:24] <bmonty> grr, #python is useless....anyone done any external module development for python?
[03:48] <bmonty> hey zakame
[03:48] <zakame> hello MOTUs! :D
[03:48] <zakame> hi bmonty! :D
[05:04] <gusaweb> #ubuntu-doc
[05:04] <gusaweb> sorry
[05:04] <gusaweb> :)
[05:20] <Seveas> siretart, newer nut builds and installs perfectly fine on dapper - can't comment on usage since I don't have a UPS
[06:45] <sistpoty> hi folks
[06:46] <trappist> how to mark a bug report as a dupe in malone?
[06:47] <sistpoty> trappist: there should be a link "mark bug as duplicate" (on the right side iirc)
[06:48] <sistpoty> dolson: I'm just filing a few bug reports and assign them to you for your packages that have made it into the archive that lack a manpage
[06:49] <trappist> sistpoty: thanks, totally missed that
[06:49] <sistpoty> np
[07:08] <terrex> ( o Y o )
[07:21] <G0SUB> hello!
[07:21] <G0SUB> I contribute directly to Debian which eventually percolate down to Ubuntu ... will this contribution count as contribution to Ubuntu?
[07:46] <jpatrick> G0SUB: yes
[07:46] <G0SUB> jpatrick awesome
[07:46] <jpatrick> all deb devs == ubuntu devs
[07:46] <G0SUB> jpatrick I am the maintainer of two debian packages in main & also the lead translator of Debian G-I to Bengali
[07:47] <jpatrick> cool
[07:48] <G0SUB> jpatrick I wonder if I could do some exclusive ubuntu work too
[07:48] <G0SUB> jpatrick if you have any packages to maintain, I'd be happy to help
[07:49] <jpatrick> I can't go though the NM process because I hardly the deb devs
[07:49] <G0SUB> jpatrick but you are a Ubuntu member ... you can help me with that at least
[07:50] <jpatrick> I'm MOTU
[07:50] <G0SUB> aah, a MOTU awesome
[07:51] <G0SUB> jpatrick can you tell me how I can help?
[07:52] <jpatrick> right now it's limited to bug fixing
[07:52] <G0SUB> I see, I can do that too
[07:53] <jpatrick> http://launchpad.net/people/motu/+assignedbugs
[07:55] <G0SUB> jpatrick how do I submit fixes?
[07:55] <jpatrick> get an MOTU to upload it
[07:55] <G0SUB> ok ...
[07:55] <G0SUB> jpatrick can/will you?
[07:55] <jpatrick> sure
[07:56] <G0SUB> great! :)
[07:57] <G0SUB> jpatrick one query ... if the bug is fixed in sid, will it still be open in malone?
[07:57] <jpatrick> if it hasn't been synced no
[07:57] <G0SUB> hmm
[08:04] <G0SUB> jpatrick can you point me to some easyfix bug?
[08:04] <jpatrick> G0SUB: maybe the motu-reviewers team? https://launchpad.net/people/motureviewers/+assignedbugs
[08:06] <G0SUB> okay, those look easy enough!
[08:07] <G0SUB> btw, do I need to join the team to submit fixes? or do I just prepare the fixed package and ask someone here?
[08:07] <jpatrick> prepare and ask
[08:07] <G0SUB> ok
[08:25] <siretart> lol: Accepted cdebootstrap 0.3.11 (source i386)
[08:25] <siretart>    * "The too late for Dapper, but not for Etch" upload
[08:25] <siretart> err, that was this one: Accepted rsibreak 0.5.0-1 (source i386)
[08:25] <siretart> not cdebootstrap
[08:26] <dolson> when's Etch due for release? March
[08:26] <dolson> March 2009 or so?
[08:26] <G0SUB> haha
[08:27] <siretart> dolson: currently debian targets december 2006 for etch release. currently debian is still on track for that date
[08:27] <dolson> whoa.. why so soon?
[08:27] <siretart> 18 months since sarge was targeted
[08:28] <dolson> that's fast for debian though
[08:28] <dolson> I don't wanna have to reboot my server *again* this Christmas
[08:28] <siretart> dolson: they targeted 18 month for sarge as well, but there were some, uhm, lets say, 'exceptional circumstances'
[08:29] <G0SUB> branden's aim in life is to have faster releases in debian
[08:31] <dolson> I guess I don't have to upgrade my server if I don't want to. ah well, I'm sure there'll be a power outage long enough to trip my UPS shortly after the release
[08:33] <dolson> G0SUB: is Branden going to release 8 versions of Etch? if so, I want to get Etch Ultimate for my system! :)
[08:34] <G0SUB> dolson haha!
[08:41] <G0SUB> jpatrick
[08:41] <G0SUB> I have fixed Malone #6587
[08:41] <Ubugtu> malone bug 6587 in seahorse "[patch]  Seahorse uses wrong category Cryptography in .desktop file" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6587
[08:42] <G0SUB> kindly take a look at http://zope.gnowledge.org:8080/ubuntu/seahorse/
[08:43] <jpatrick> G0SUB: native package
[08:43] <G0SUB> ?
[08:44] <jpatrick> there's no .orig.tar.gz or .diff file
[08:44] <G0SUB> oh, ok ... in a sec
[08:46] <jpatrick> G0SUB: making a .diff for the patch is better than touch the orig src
[08:50] <G0SUB> jpatrick http://zope.gnowledge.org:8080/ubuntu/seahorse/diff.patch
[08:51] <G0SUB> is it ok now?
[08:54] <jpatrick> looks okay
[08:54] <G0SUB> jpatrick :)
[08:55] <G0SUB> when will it be uploaded?
[08:56] <jpatrick> when I've done
[08:56] <G0SUB> okay
[08:56] <G0SUB> jpatrick when are you online usually? I will do more fixes tomorrow ... it's 01:26 here, I will leave now
[08:57] <jpatrick> I'm online most of the time
[08:57] <G0SUB> jpatrick yes, but we are in diff. TZs
[08:57] <G0SUB> I hope you sleep for sometime :)
[08:58] <jpatrick> I'm GMT + 1
[08:59] <G0SUB> okay
[08:59] <G0SUB> I am +05:30
[08:59] <G0SUB> see you tomorrow
[08:59] <G0SUB> good night
[08:59] <jpatrick> night
[09:00] <G0SUB> jpatrick I hope I didn't bug you too much ....
[09:00] <jpatrick> not at all
[09:00] <G0SUB> :)
[09:00] <G0SUB> bye
[09:37] <Tonio_> re
[10:13] <thierry> does the package mathomatic have a gui?
[10:14] <jpatrick> I don't think so
[10:15] <thierry> k
[10:16] <jpatrick> it has libncurses5
[10:16] <thierry> yeah but I mean the package itself is not a gui right?
[10:18] <jpatrick> not gui deps
[10:19] <jpatrick> s/no/not
[11:01] <jroes> hey guys - I'm not sure if I am experienced enough to go about this - but it appears the samba package may depend on mailutils
[11:01] <jroes> its panic script uses the mail binary, which is in mailutils
[11:03] <jroes> I'm still getting acquainted to the whole scene, so I'm not sure my claim is even correct yet
[11:18] <jroes> I put in a bug report, hopefully I don't get flamed :x
[11:18] <jroes> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/32987
[11:18] <Ubugtu> malone bug 32987 in samba "Samba depends on mailutils/mailx" [Normal,Unconfirmed]