=== LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:10] hi LaserJock [12:14] hi Tonio_ [12:14] ;) [12:15] searching for settings that could/should be set on the desktop part === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-188.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.187.153] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.96.205] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.96.205] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.96.205] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-188.xlate.ufl.edu] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === huahua [n=hua@222.50.182.199] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-188.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.101.30] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.98.39] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.101.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.99.30] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.103.167] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.102.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.96.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.100.228] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:03] hi [09:04] hey [09:04] what's up? [09:05] looking into whether a compiler that runs thru cygwin in my computer course can run native through linux. [09:05] i have not yet found an answer [09:05] also trying to replace the kmenu [09:08] yup === Tm_T would like to see some easy way to set "customized kmenu/default kmenu" [09:08] would be great [09:09] definetly [09:09] suggest it to tonio lol [09:10] gah, he's not here! [09:11] hehe i know! [09:11] ofcourse when we have some work for him, coward... [09:11] ;( === Tm_T would like to tweak kmenu to hold apps in three major categories, instead of 10 like now [09:12] or, order those 10 to three major [09:15] to be windows like? [09:16] windows? [09:16] I don't know how it's in windows [09:17] most or all the apps are in all programs, and it's a painful job trying to find the one you want [09:17] it's very nice having them all categorisied by what they actually do [09:18] true [09:18] then again, you could easily combine system and utilities - they seem to be synonymous, to me [09:18] aye [09:18] also tools and editors... editors are tools? [09:18] etc etc [09:18] i dont have editors and tools, but yeah [09:19] hmm, I don't have tools either [09:19] actually the way "debian" menu is ordered... === lianghu [n=lianghu@60.166.101.227] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T would like to have one group holding all apps (debian is good) and then just three other groups holding apps I use [09:22] WTF! [09:22] where's "display" module from kcontrol [09:27] http://kapsi.fi/tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kcontrol-display-wtf.png === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:28] yay! [09:28] i think this worked [09:28] it was working last week [09:28] or before [09:34] I assume someone in here knows C [09:34] I want to investigate if an already declared string contains a given string [09:35] I know C is fine letter [09:35] also programming language [09:35] like, if "hejsan" contains "hej" then do something === _Sime|AFK_FOSDEM is now known as _Sime [09:36] nlindblad: treat the string as an array, step through it and look for your pattern. if str[3] ==h, check if str[4] ==e and so on [09:37] oh [09:38] nlindblad: there may be libraries that contains functions that do exactly what you want. glibc probably have something, or libpcre might do [09:38] okey [09:38] I'd like to achieve it without having to properly learn C [09:38] just the string part [09:39] nlindblad: then use something like perl ;-D [09:40] if( "hej" =~ $string ) { do something }; [09:40] I'm writing a patch for sshd [09:40] :D === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:41] hmmm...my default kmenu setttings dont stick === Riddell returns home [09:45] hey Riddell! [09:45] Riddell: have you seen this? http://kapsi.fi/tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kcontrol-display-wtf.png [09:45] not good I think [09:46] maybe I should file a bug [09:46] I've not seen that [09:46] _Sime: any idea what's causing that? === Hobbsee wonders if there's a prettier icon for the kmenu around... === klugez [i=kluge@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:55] ubijtsa2: http://pastebin.com/574576 could you please have a look [09:56] hello [09:56] hey Tonio_ [09:56] the man of the moment [09:56] Hobbsee: hi [09:57] Hobbsee: ? the moment ? :) [09:57] Tonio_: i'll pastebin [09:57] Hobbsee: k [09:57] Tonio_: http://pastebin.com/574579 [09:59] Hobbsee: okay === Hobbsee_away is off to watch some tv [09:59] in fact that's not very easy cause there is no "default" K menu [09:59] it is build dynamically reading the .desktop files in several directories [09:59] including /usr/share/applications, your profiles etc.... [10:00] ugh right [10:00] Hobbsee_away: the only thing is that what is customized is in your profile [10:00] and what isn't is in /usr/share [10:00] *nods* [10:01] but the only way to "switch" between menus is to have an application that allows to edit and move/rename between several kmenurc files in your profile [10:01] Hobbsee_away: not possible for me to do that ;) [10:02] that would need a complete developpment [10:02] Hobbsee_away: good news, the kate sessions problem is resolved :) [10:02] nlindblad: looking now [10:03] :D [10:04] Tonio_: you're somekind of KDE config wizard? [10:04] nlindblad: hmm.. I gather sscanf takes a template for its input.. (/me not too familiar with C) [10:05] ubijtsa2: it's for the ssh daemon [10:05] Tm_T: I think Riddelldoesn't like those wizzards, and I must say I agree his choice [10:05] Tonio_: errrh [10:05] ubijtsa2: I've read the RFC for the protocol and straced it and used netstat [10:05] Tm_T: talking about the possibility to config the K menu with the first boot ? [10:05] no [10:05] ho sorry, what about then ? [10:05] nlindblad: looks good to me.. but as I said, not a pro programmer :) [10:05] Tonio_: I'm talkong about your skills and knowledge related to KDE configs [10:05] ubijtsa2: all client_version_string's are of the format SSH-X.x-client-.x.y [10:06] Tm_T: ok ;) Well I don't know much more than anyone in fact... I'm just searching problem per problem, that's all :) [10:06] Tonio_: I would like to have some way to switch between "default" kmenu (like it now) and "custom" kmenu (something that user like to see) [10:06] each problem is a file, and diff -ru .kde .kde2 IS MY FRIEND ;) [10:07] Tm_T: I understood that [10:07] that can be possible in fact, but hard to manage... [10:07] uh [10:07] the K menu is build dynamically, and you can customize it with your own .desktop files + kmenburc file [10:07] kmenurc [10:07] because I would like to reorder my kmenu hard way, but also would like to have something to fall back [10:08] the problem is to switch easilly between all those settings [10:08] heh [10:08] not an easy job to do it propper [10:08] yes, comming back to the virgin menu [10:08] problem is how to keep them both uptodate [10:08] is that what you're talking about ? [10:08] yup, sort of [10:08] hum [10:09] the default menu is always up to date, cause it soedn't exist technically [10:09] aye [10:09] it is rebuild every session [10:09] reding the desktop files [10:09] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9424 [10:09] all specific settings you do are in desktop files in your profile [10:10] hmm, so technically it's just disabling/enabling my tweaks [10:10] Tm_T: and if you reorder or hinde some, it is in kmenurc [10:10] ok [10:10] if you delete this file, or rename it, you will be back to the default one [10:11] ~/./share/config/kmenueditrc [10:11] here is the exact file, it isn't kmenurc, sorry ;) [10:11] ooh [10:11] does it apply "on the fly" ? [10:12] in fact the K menu is the combination of many thigs [10:12] aye [10:12] Tm_T: yes, a few seconds only to apply [10:12] ah [10:12] then it's good [10:12] and yes I know it's mixture of many things but I'm talking about that application section [10:12] the K menu is the result of the readin of .desktop files in /usr/share/appliations, the equivalent in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings, that kmenueditrc, .desktop files in your profile etc..... [10:12] so you already answered to my question [10:13] it is a comomplete mess in fact [10:13] hehe [10:13] indeed [10:13] "complete" [10:15] hmm === Tm_T has done many changes to kmenu through kmenuedit but kmenueditrc doesn't contain any of them [10:16] so all of that is somewhere else [10:17] hum, isn't that the good file ? [10:17] let me check [10:17] weird konq won't run for me today [10:18] Tm_T: ~/./.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu [10:18] sont parameters are there too [10:18] if you're talking about displaying or not some menus, apps etc.......; [10:18] ah [10:18] another file :) messy lol [10:18] yes and where they are displayed [10:18] yes, that's in that file in xml format [10:19] and if you modified .desktop entries, you should find them in your profile too [10:19] hmm, I wonder what happens if I move that file... [10:20] let's try! =) [10:21] suposedly you will get a full complete default K menu [10:21] ah yes [10:21] immediately [10:21] yep [10:21] so all I need is move that file around [10:21] would be that too afwul thing to offer in systemsettings to every user? [10:22] Tm_T: no idea, I have never coded anything ;) [10:22] hehe [10:22] could be done as a guidance tool maybe [10:23] Tonio_: thank you very much, now I can modify kmenu free without worrying backups :) [10:24] anyone good at looking at strace output? konq just sits forever at a read: http://www2.duffus.org/tmp/konq.txt [10:24] Tm_T: you're servant [10:27] <_Sime> Tm_T: can you run "xset -q" and email the result to simon@simonzone.com? I'll have a lot at that python exception problem. [10:28] _Sime: sure [10:28] _Sime: whatever helps :) [10:28] <_Sime> Riddell: Hi. I see you are back at the jo. :) [10:28] <_Sime> Tm_T: cool, thanks, [10:30] what do I need to install to get the developers version of the C-libraries? [10:35] glibc-dev ? [10:36] _Sime: in what situation I should run that? just now or do I need kcontrol running or... [10:38] <_Sime> Tm_T: just from the shell in enough. [10:43] ok [10:44] _Sime: http://kapsi.fi/tm_travolta/temp/foo-sime.txt [10:44] <_Sime> Tm_T: thanks [10:45] Tonio_: yay @ the kate sessions! [10:54] hmm ok kmail, kopete and amarok aren't working either === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:55] i wonder what broke over the weekend on my machine [10:56] seaLne: try the old kernel maybe? [10:57] not working as in freezing or what? [10:57] kernel hasn't changed recently [10:57] http://www2.duffus.org/tmp/konq.txt konq just sits trying to read never displaying anything [10:57] i meant to 2.6.15-16-blah [10:57] 2.6.15-15-k7 [10:58] this morning i dist-upgraded and restarted X [10:58] _Sime: else I can do? [11:00] Hobbsee: any idea if anything much changed in the kernel between -15 and -16? can't see that would stop stuff working after it had been fine all last week === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:02] seaLne: i dont know, but i got major networking problems for it, machine would freeze while loading ndiswrapper, kopete would freeze randomly, etc [11:03] i'm using -15 now [11:03] i'll try a kernel upgrade and a reboot just to be sure [11:05] *nods* [11:05] Tonio_: have we thought about using crystal clear as our default kde icon scheme at all? [11:08] hum........ why not, but that needs to be duscussed ;) I like the default theme :) [11:09] *nods* [11:09] crystal, crystal clear, or another one, are all quite nice === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:16] oh, now my menu is sooo beautiful [11:18] Hobbsee: err rebooting seems to have fixed things, but i really doubt it was the kernel.. [11:19] seaLne: it may well not have been - i just found i had problems with it [11:20] hmm, somehow this doesn't work right [11:22] possibly a combination of upgrades without a reboot since early last week [11:22] may I play ape format file with amarok-xine ? [11:35] oh my oh my [11:35] kmenuedit creates _ugly_ xml [11:48] well, printing to an IPP printer *definetly* works on my dapper machine === Tm_T thinks he should some day clean his new menu some day [11:52] but now it works and look good, enough for now [11:52] ...less codeine to me, don't you think? [11:53] I have very numb feeling [11:54] because of painkillers [11:55] weird though, those painkillers does mess my head but pain still exists very strong :p [12:12] guys, in the actual config, except the tab position on application and kate sessions which is actually resolved, what could/should be configured according to you ? [12:12] there are certainly improvements I'm missing [12:27] raphink: did you want CDs? [12:27] hmm sure that can be useful Riddell :) [12:28] I still have some, but I spare them in the fear that I might run low on them [12:28] brb [12:29] <_Sime> Tm_T: that bug is fixed in the next guidance release. (some time this week). [12:29] _Sime: jolly good, thank you :) [12:29] Riddell: I've mail you my address , got it ? [12:30] freeflying: yes, got yours :) [12:30] trying to remember who else has asked === Tm_T thinks he forgot something important [12:30] ah! [12:30] Riddell: I'll mail my postal address now =) === freeflying I got kubntu cd request every day [12:31] heh [12:31] Riddell: your email address was... [12:32] jriddell@ubuntu.com [12:32] Riddell: hi ! [12:32] Riddell: kate's sessions issues is resolved [12:32] but requires a patch for kdebase [12:34] Tonio_: hmm, ok [12:34] Riddell: can i select language with kdm like gdm dose [12:34] wonder how much that'll annoy the kate developers :) [12:34] freeflying: no, I don't think you can, that's something I'd like added [12:35] Riddell: if that can be added ,another problems about CJK can be solved [12:35] s/problems/problem [12:36] Tonio_: can you look at the kdm theme and add back the restart X option? [12:36] Tonio_: and while you're there see if there's a way to have a language menu? (but I suspect there isn't) [12:36] Riddell: yep, I'l have a look [12:36] Riddell: just sent you a mail with the patch for kate.desktop [12:37] other part of the config is in k-d-s [12:37] hum, Riddell no way for a language menu actually, need to ask to upstream [12:37] Tm_T: awaiting e-mail.. [12:37] sent [12:38] Tonio_: suse has a bunch of patches to kdm, I wonder if it's in one of theirs. can't remember what the branch is called though [12:38] Tonio_: #ubuntu-fi is on freenode now? [12:38] -fr ? [12:38] Riddell: apparently yes [12:38] don't think Tm_T speaks French [12:39] :p [12:39] #ubuntu-fi is always been in freenode [12:39] ah, the message wasn't to me so..... [12:39] oh, so why is !kubuntu-fi on some other network again? [12:39] #ubuntu.fi && !kubuntu.fi is in IRCnet [12:39] Tonio_: oh, sorry, my fault :) [12:39] Riddell: ;) [12:39] Tm_T: what is #ubuntu+1? [12:40] hm [12:40] 13:40 < ubotu> [dapper] the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break. join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it, or use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates [12:40] Tm_T: I only have i386 CDs [12:41] Riddell: thats fine too [12:41] Riddell: it's the place where they chucked all the dapper people from #ubuntu in === Hobbsee watches a few more people flying through the air [12:41] Riddell: dot thing posted. [12:41] Hobbsee: =) [12:41] Some links are missing though, but the text should be OK> [12:41] :P [12:42] Hobbsee: interesting that support of testers is "let's dump they all to their own channel!" ;( [12:42] Riddell: u mean suse has patched kdm for language select? [12:43] Tm_T: true, but the breezy people cant exactly troubleshoot dapper-specific problems, i guess [12:43] true too [12:44] freeflying: it has patched kdm, I'm not sure if language select is one of their added features [12:46] Riddell: one thing is sure, the actual kdm theme has words in images, and thought will not be translated whatever is patched [12:46] I should discuss with the developper about a multilangage functionnality in the future [12:47] Tonio_: yes, that needs to be fixed [12:47] Tonio_: it's fairly easy to fix, just use the correct label in the .xml file instead of images for text [12:47] Riddell: yes sure, but can a kdm theme be i18n ? === Hobbsee contemplates emailing herself to check that this redirect works === Riddell wonders what the Finnish for "Scotland" is [12:48] Hobbsee: going to join UbuntuWomen? [12:49] Riddell: got no idea - might help if i look at it first [12:50] always good to make sure we have a kubuntu influence everywhere :) [12:50] hehe true [12:50] Riddell: skotlanti [12:51] Riddell: if that's what you were asking =) [12:51] Riddell: concerning that kdm option missing, did we loose it while updating the kdm theme ? cause I don't see anything relating to options to display in it...... [12:53] ok, well that redirect works :D === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:54] grmpf..... don't understand [12:55] of course, having 8+ email accounts means it's easy to send from one to another to test... [12:56] hmm hmm! === Tm_T feels Riddell has been spying him [12:59] Riddell: I was thinking about gtk_qt_engine this WE, and there is a little problem with it... [12:59] by default, it is not configured on a new profile, and to activate, a user has to go in systemsettings, change and undo, then click "apply" [01:00] that is not very convenient, so I was thinking about automating the 2 config files creation by default for new profiles [01:00] thought that /etc/skel is not convenient, because k-d-s is installed after the initial profile is created [01:01] another option is an autostart script in /usr/share/autostart which would do a if -x blabla_rc then cp etc.... [01:01] your opinion on this ? [01:07] Riddell: Missed your presentation at fosdem and the pre-fosdem event, too:-( [01:09] Is it possible to get more zeroconf support into KDE? [01:09] Like fish and sftp [01:09] ? [01:09] Those are supported by konqueror just fine, they just are not recognized by zeroconf. === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] Riddell: for the "Restart X server" option in kdm, s/AllowClose=false/AllowClose=true in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc [01:11] nothing to do with k-d-s [01:12] Riddell: do you want a patch for kdebase for this ? [01:19] Riddell: just sent you a patch for kdmrc for this pb, tested here, works perfectly [01:30] Tonio_: cool [01:31] Tonio_: neither of those sound very convenient for gtk, there must be a gtk way to set default theme [01:31] probably a gconf thing [01:32] Riddell: yes, the default theme needs to be set in .gtkrc-2.0 [01:33] but how to have that create without launching a gtk app first ? [01:33] that's the reason I'm searching for a way to get that file copied from the kde starting or something....... [01:33] Tonio_: there must be a way to do it outside the home directory though [01:34] same as we do for kde stuff [01:34] Riddell: hum, yes, certainly [01:34] like kubuntu-default-settings [01:34] Tonio_: although we could just have a bit on startkde if ~/.gtkrc-2.0 not exist, echo 'gtk-theme-name="Qt"' > ~/.gtkrc-2.0 [01:35] the problem is that gtk_qt_engine_rc is created from a standard file [01:35] s/is/isn't [01:35] it is created "from nothing" [01:35] yes [01:36] that's why my idea was to provide those 2 files with k-d-s and set a little startkde script eventually [01:36] yeah, we can do that, but ask some gnome people if there's a way to do it outside the home directory first [01:37] okay [01:37] last thing (sorry), I was thinking about the default size of icons in konq [01:37] gtk-qt engine used to substitute gnome icons to kde icons but doesn't any more for me, feel free to investigate that one too :) [01:38] default for the desktop is 48, which is nice, but default for konq is 64, which results very big icons on a 1024*768 screen [01:38] Riddell: wouldn't 48 be enough ? [01:39] hum, yes, works with fonts and theme but not icons.... [01:39] I don't find 64 too large at all [01:39] Riddell: what is your resolution ? [01:39] 1024 [01:39] ah... :) [01:40] okay let's keep it like that so.... I was just finding 48 better for visibility anyway [01:40] Riddell: any example for icons replacement failing (I don't use ANY gtk app) ? [01:41] gnome [01:41] gimp [01:41] firefox too [01:42] it might be a compile option for all I know [01:43] okay, I'm on this right now, and will send you a new version of k-d-s today with kate sessions configured (although a patch on .desktop is required for everything to work) === hua [n=hua@221.172.51.66] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] Riddell: iconTheme = kdeConfigValue("Icons", "Theme", "crystal"); [02:03] Riddell: here is the problem, that parser function looks in kdeglobals and as far as I can see, the theme is set there anymore [02:05] curious [02:06] yes, but that's what I understand from the sources... [02:06] well we can patch gtk-qt-engine to have it on by default I guess [02:06] Riddell: I can force th value, ut if a user changes the default theme, that may not use the good one.... [02:06] I'm searching where is that value set now [02:07] I think it's just set in the kde code, and only written to file if it's not the default [02:07] Riddell: what we can do so is to patch the kdeglobals file in k-d-s [02:07] another way to proceed [02:07] maybe easier [02:10] Riddell: aren't kde environnment options readable via a cpp function ? that could make it very easy to patch [02:11] yes [02:11] see the KConfig docs [02:11] Riddell: okay........ I just hope I will understand, as my cpp knowledge is about -50 [02:12] okay, so let's try to get the value reading the variables instead of parsing [02:14] _Sime: do you have FOSDEM photos online? [02:26] Riddell, you know expect ? [02:27] viviersf: I know of it, never used it [02:27] :( === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:37] any1 else here know expect ???? === hunger [n=tobias@p54A6304F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:44] Riddell: I didn't find anyway to read the icontheme except what is called a "dirty hack" [02:45] so I patched to let the value to "crystalsvg" if the parsing function returns nothing [02:45] I think that's clean... [02:45] Tonio_: if you change the icons theme it must set that somewhere [02:45] Riddell: yes, true [02:45] let me check [02:46] although I don't know if gtk-qt-engine can use KConfig [02:48] well if it is set in kdeglobals and if the parser then works, it makes sense to force the value to crystalsvg by default if that's hardcoded on kde no ? [02:50] Riddell: the setting is indeed in kdeglobals === allee_ [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:50] but is empty by default if it is crystalsvg [02:51] so my idea is to let the parsing function, and if result is empty, then force the value to "crystalsvg", are you fine with that ? === alleeHol [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:06] Riddell: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/krita_1%3a1.4.90-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): [03:06] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-raw.desktop', which is also in package digikam [03:08] sebas: hmm yes, must get that sorted [03:09] Ok, 'twas just so you know :) [03:09] raw.desktop needs added to KDE really, but the files are slightly different and they need merged === sebas pours tea. === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:15] <_Sime> Riddell: no, I didn't really take any photos worth fetching from the camera... [03:16] _Sime: just as a warning I'm currently using a very flattering photo of you in the fosdem dot article :) [03:17] Riddell: gtk_qt patched and working [03:17] uses by default crystalsvg except if another value is set... [03:18] Riddell: just emailing you the patch [03:49] toma_: ping [03:49] toma_: what's the best x-raw.desktop file to use? [03:49] i.e. why does digikam and krita not just use the one in kdelibs? === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:53] Riddell: did you receive the patches ? [03:54] cause I have problems with my smtp server today.... [03:55] yes, 1 for gtk and 1 for kdmrc [03:57] Riddell: i found package in main FBFTS, ten what shall do for it [03:57] s/ten/then [03:58] Riddell: you should have another one for kate.desktop [03:58] don't you have it ? [04:00] Riddell: s/FBFTS/FTBFS [04:02] Tonio_: oh yes [04:02] freeflying: fix it and send me the patch? [04:03] Riddell: okay, cool === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:18] Riddell: about adept, I think there should be only one entry in the Kmenu [04:19] Riddell: just as it is done in gnome adept-updater could only accessed through adept-notifier, adept_installer as a systemsettings/kcontrol module, and adept in the Kmenu [04:19] that would make things much easier for users [04:22] had not thought about kcontrol module, interesting, not sure though === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:23] raphink: i'd agree about the single menu entry, i only worked out a month or so ago that the adept menu entries were different === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:24] seaLne: there are now 4 pieces in the adept puzzle : adept manager, adept-updater, adept-installer and adept-notifier [04:24] does gnome not have a menu entry for synaptic then? only gnome-app-install? [04:24] seaLne: only one should appear in the K menu: adept manager [04:25] Riddell: in the application menu is only the gnome-app-install [04:25] yeah [04:25] the synaptic entry is in administration [04:25] adept is an advanced feature [04:25] adept-installer should be in systemsettings imo, since this is where people will go for an easy to set interface [04:25] I also think that actually, adept-updater and adept-notifier are not of any use in the Kmenu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-48-188.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:26]