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| psusi | what the crap? git-unpack-objects says it is unpacking 187,127 objects.... only it doesn't.... the objects aren't there | 05:29 |
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| psusi | shouldn't git-unpack-objects < .git/objects/pack/pack-xxxx.pack undo a git-repack? | 05:30 |
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| dolson | if there is a driver that I want to see get into Ubuntu, how do I make that request? do I open a bug on Malone? | 05:51 |
| psusi | if the driver is in the linux kernel, it should be in ubuntu already | 05:53 |
| dolson | it isn't | 05:53 |
| psusi | it isn't in the stock kernel or it isn't built into the ubuntu build? | 05:54 |
| dolson | I don't think it's in either. it's for Logitech Quickcam Communicate. I don't think it works with the `quickcam` module, and I did some searching, and I found http://home.mag.cx/messenger/ which has another driver | 05:55 |
| dolson | unless I'm a moron and can't figure it out for myself. | 05:56 |
| psusi | if it isn't in the stock kernel, it won't go into ubuntu AFAIK | 05:56 |
| dolson | well there is a big list of add-on drivers in the kernel source tree, in the debian folder | 05:56 |
| psusi | hrm.... interesting.... | 05:57 |
| dolson | podxtpro is one of them that I can recall, and I don't think it's in a stock kernel | 05:57 |
| === psusi needs to figure out how to compare the ubuntu kernel git tree with linus's to see what's different | ||
| psusi | it is open source right? | 05:58 |
| dolson | yes, well, it looks like it's based on the qce code. I am going to look more into it, because I am not sure why it looks like the same stuff as the standard quickcam module.. modinfo quickcam doesn't show an alias for my vendor+device ID that I get from lsusb though | 05:59 |
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| dolson | hrmm. that's not good. it makes a module called `quickcam` | 06:04 |
| Mithrandir | kernel bugs should be assigned to kernel-source-$version or ? | 07:53 |
| fabbione | linux | 07:54 |
| fabbione | afaik | 07:54 |
| fabbione | otherwise linux-source-$version | 07:54 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, linux worked. It kinda sucks that the "choose" dialog just gives you some semi-random ordering rather than anything sensible. | 07:56 |
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| Tonio_ | hi everyone | 11:09 |
| netzmeister | hi | 11:09 |
| Tonio_ | just noticed there is no "build" simlink in /lib/modules/2.6.15-16-386 with linux-headers version 2.6.15-16-386 | 11:10 |
| Tonio_ | the resulting is about al kernel modules compilations are failing... is that normal ? | 11:10 |
| netzmeister | i have the same problem too | 11:12 |
| netzmeister | i have installed the ......-686 Kernel. And all works fine | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | hum, probematic :) | 11:12 |
| netzmeister | *g* | 11:12 |
| Tonio_ | s/b/bl | 11:12 |
| netzmeister | why is this problematic? | 11:13 |
| Tonio_ | well much people will install directly there uname -r linux header versions | 11:14 |
| netzmeister | yes thats right.. | 11:18 |
| netzmeister | let's wait.. | 11:19 |
| netzmeister | the maintainers are sleeping ;-) | 11:19 |
| netzmeister | -are | 11:19 |
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| fabbione | BenC: ping? | 02:31 |
| fabbione | hmm it's a bit early... | 02:32 |
| fabbione | BenC: please pull from my tree and push to kernel org. | 02:33 |
| fabbione | Changes: | 02:33 |
| fabbione | More SUN4V love and fixed a few problems on old sparc hw | 02:33 |
| fabbione | * Update redhat cluster suite to CVS20060222. | 02:33 |
| fabbione | * Stop spca5xx to redefine PUD_SHIFT that's arch specific mem management. | 02:33 |
| fabbione | * Import OCFS2 and configfs bug fixes from 2.6.16-rc5. This commit must be | 02:33 |
| fabbione | reverted before we will sync 2.6.16 directly from git or they will | 02:33 |
| fabbione | conflict badly. | 02:33 |
| fabbione | if you can also push to kernel.org it would be lovely | 02:34 |
| fabbione | i also checked the git purge stuff | 02:34 |
| fabbione | it works just fine | 02:34 |
| fabbione | it basically removes from the tree al unrequired objects | 02:34 |
| fabbione | making the tree WAYYY smaller | 02:34 |
| fabbione | i meant.. git prine | 02:35 |
| fabbione | ARGH | 02:35 |
| fabbione | GIT PRUNE <- | 02:35 |
| fabbione | ^^^^^ | 02:35 |
| fabbione | that one | 02:35 |
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| BenC | fabbione: getting it in just a minute | 02:59 |
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| fabbione | BenC: cool | 04:05 |
| BenC | git-pruned the kernel.org and people repo's, finishing the repack on people right now | 04:06 |
| fabbione | nice | 04:12 |
| BenC | git-repack needs to be done before git-prune (/me makes a note) | 04:21 |
| BenC | have to run prune after repack anyway | 04:21 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:26 |
| BenC | ok, both repo's done, and my local repo is nice and tidy :) | 04:31 |
| fabbione | BenC: if you did pull/push i will be glad to trash my local one and clone again... | 04:31 |
| BenC | I've got it, so yeah, go ahead and ditch your local repo | 04:31 |
| BenC | push in progress | 04:32 |
| === fabbione frees up a few tons of GB | ||
| fabbione | BenC: note that the OCFS2 update has not been done via git-cherry | 04:33 |
| fabbione | we will need to revert that commit before we sync 2.6.16 | 04:33 |
| fabbione | it was way too complicate to do it with cherry | 04:33 |
| BenC | ok | 04:36 |
| fabbione | nice.. pack rsyncing here :) | 04:36 |
| fabbione | much much better :) | 04:36 |
| === desrt pokes BenC | ||
| desrt | turns out my firewire woes are fixed by a patch that you personally signed off on for inclusion upstream :) | 04:38 |
| BenC | desrt: really? :) | 04:39 |
| BenC | point me to it, and I'll include it | 04:39 |
| desrt | BenC; i've been annoying the heck out of you on launchpad :p | 04:39 |
| BenC | is it Al Viro's patch? | 04:39 |
| desrt | BenC; it seems like launchpad reduces the effectiveness of communication by a good 80% | 04:40 |
| BenC | my bug emails are backlogged, so I guess I'll get to it soon | 04:40 |
| desrt | fwiw, this one: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/28174 | 04:40 |
| desrt | it's "from the scsi maintainers" | 04:41 |
| BenC | ok | 04:41 |
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| davyd_ | ok | 05:12 |
| davyd_ | on #30557 | 05:12 |
| davyd_ | at the moment, on 2.6.15-16 | 05:12 |
| davyd_ | when my machine boots up, it is putting itself into C2 | 05:12 |
| davyd_ | and the idle counter goes whack, and it clocks the CPU up | 05:13 |
| davyd_ | if I force the machine into C1, the idle counter starts working | 05:13 |
| davyd_ | but my CPU can't idle properly | 05:13 |
| BenC | davyd_: what CPU type is this? | 05:14 |
| davyd_ | Pentium < | 05:15 |
| davyd_ | M | 05:15 |
| davyd_ | on the i915 chipset | 05:15 |
| davyd_ | incidently, and possibly related to this, is that my laptop is running very warm | 05:15 |
| BenC | which cpufreq module is being used? | 05:15 |
| davyd_ | and the fan isn't engaging | 05:15 |
| davyd_ | (it hard locked once because of this) | 05:15 |
| davyd_ | BenC: userspace | 05:15 |
| BenC | you're not using speedstep or anything? | 05:16 |
| BenC | powernowd uses a kernel module | 05:16 |
| davyd_ | oh, right, let me look | 05:16 |
| davyd_ | where is that kept now, it is no longer in proc | 05:16 |
| BenC | lsmod | grep cpu | 05:16 |
| davyd_ | speedstep_centrino | 05:17 |
| davyd_ | but yeah, it counts idle ticks properly in C1, but not C2, never seems to go into C3 | 05:17 |
| davyd_ | the fan is also not engaging reliably | 05:17 |
| davyd_ | my machine was at 64C | 05:18 |
| davyd_ | since my options were C1 or dodgy idle times causing the CPU to clock up | 05:18 |
| BenC | was there a prior 2.6.15 kernel that worked ok? | 05:18 |
| davyd_ | the fan trip would appear to be 114C | 05:19 |
| davyd_ | (as a result the machine hard locked) | 05:19 |
| davyd_ | BenC: I've not have a lot of success with Ubuntu 2.6.15 | 05:19 |
| davyd_ | 2.6.12 worked perfectly | 05:19 |
| BenC | what was the first 2.6.15 kernel you used? | 05:19 |
| davyd_ | I didn't personally try, but someone said Debian 2.6.15 was working on this | 05:19 |
| BenC | but that doesn't help me much :) | 05:19 |
| davyd_ | two secs | 05:20 |
| davyd_ | the first 2.6.15 I have installed is -15 | 05:20 |
| BenC | trying to find out if there was a point where this went bad with our kernel | 05:20 |
| davyd_ | I only upgraded this machine to dapper about a fortnight ago | 05:20 |
| BenC | ok, so you've only used very recent ones | 05:20 |
| BenC | any chance of you trying flight 1/2/3 liveCD's to see if they fix anything? | 05:20 |
| davyd_ | someone with an ASUS has had this problem forever | 05:20 |
| BenC | I assume you are using the -686 kernel, have you tested the -386 kernel? | 05:21 |
| davyd_ | I haven't tested -386, I can | 05:21 |
| BenC | yeah, that would help a little | 05:21 |
| davyd_ | interestingly, forcing C1 seems to stop cpufreq from working, scrollkeeper update didn't clock my CPU up from 600Mhz | 05:22 |
| davyd_ | ok, I'm installing linux-image-2.6.15-16-386 | 05:22 |
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| davyd_ | ok, testing -386, back in a bit | 05:31 |
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| davyd | BenC: positive results with -386 | 05:38 |
| davyd | machine has put itself into C3 | 05:39 |
| davyd | getting 100 idle ticks/s (~) | 05:39 |
| davyd | cpufreq is clocking up and down as required | 05:39 |
| davyd | fan cut in and out to cool the machine down | 05:39 |
| davyd | sky2 still seems busted though :-( | 05:41 |
| BenC | ok, so we have an SMP issue | 05:41 |
| BenC | the 686 kernel is compiled with SMP support, it's really the only difference from the 686 kernel | 05:41 |
| BenC | 386 kernel | 05:41 |
| BenC | Please annotate the bug about this...I would stick with the 386 version (it's really not a performance hit as most people would think) | 05:45 |
| bluefoxicy | the 686 kernel can see more than 900M of RAM | 05:45 |
| BenC | so can 386 | 05:46 |
| bluefoxicy | no it can't | 05:46 |
| bluefoxicy | unless I missed something new | 05:46 |
| BenC | 386 kernel has highmem | 05:46 |
| bluefoxicy | in Dapper? | 05:46 |
| BenC | yes | 05:46 |
| bluefoxicy | but not breezy | 05:46 |
| BenC | we aren't talking about breezy :) | 05:47 |
| bluefoxicy | ok just making sure | 05:47 |
| bluefoxicy | I know the 386 has never had highmem before | 05:47 |
| davyd | hmm, on the network front sk98lin is also dysfunctional | 05:50 |
| davyd | have you had any reports on ethernet usefulness with dapper and the R200? | 05:50 |
| davyd | (you can tell I use wireless all the time, but that I perhaps forgot to install the -restricted package) | 05:50 |
| BenC | not that I recall | 05:51 |
| davyd | ok, I just booted into Windows to check the hardware was actually working | 05:52 |
| davyd | sky2 gives me an interface, but does no link detection or dhcp | 05:53 |
| davyd | sk98lin, which used to work, doesn't even give me an interface | 05:53 |
| davyd | I suppose I should file this as a separate issue | 05:53 |
| BenC | yeah, I probably need to update the sky2 driver | 05:53 |
| === bluefoxicy holy craps at all the patches in -mm | ||
| davyd | ok, -386 seems sane | 06:08 |
| davyd | do you want me to file on sky2? | 06:08 |
| BenC | I marked it on my todo, so no need | 06:15 |
| davyd | ok | 06:17 |
| davyd | thanks for your help | 06:17 |
| BenC | no, thanks for checking in | 06:20 |
| BenC | hopefully I'll get this squared away for you | 06:20 |
| davyd | no probs | 06:22 |
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| BenC | mjg59: ping | 07:53 |
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| bluefoxicy | psusi: the via dri in 2.6.15 seems horridly broken, do any of the devs have via chipsets, or do you know if it's part of mainline? | 09:26 |
| bluefoxicy | if it's part of mainline I'll hit the lkml with the bug. | 09:26 |
| psusi | via dri? I have a via chipset, but my video card is an ati radeon 9800 pro | 09:27 |
| bluefoxicy | my via chipset has a via video adaptor in its north bridge | 09:27 |
| psusi | ewww.... don't use it... integrated video sucks ;) | 09:27 |
| BenC | I have a VIA EPIA, I can try that some time | 09:28 |
| psusi | it robs memory space and time from the cpu | 09:28 |
| bluefoxicy | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 01) | 09:28 |
| bluefoxicy | psusi: I don't need heavy video | 09:28 |
| bluefoxicy | I'm running VESA right now, and if I play any animated videos the CPU hits 100% and they lag and X drags and shit. | 09:28 |
| psusi | bluefoxicy: that's fine... it's still slowing down processing because of the stollen memory cycles | 09:28 |
| BenC | that doesn't sound like a kernel issue | 09:29 |
| psusi | what exactly does "horrbily broken" mean? | 09:29 |
| bluefoxicy | with the Via driver, I can actually seek back and forth while playing videos, and I get decent GLX gears performance, and the CPU usage is lower. | 09:29 |
| BenC | My VIA EPIA M10k dies completely in windows if I startup any opengl apps :) | 09:29 |
| bluefoxicy | psusi: um, well, if I use the via driver in X | 09:29 |
| bluefoxicy | my kernel oopses several times | 09:29 |
| bluefoxicy | and somewhere between an hour and 5 hours in I get a hard freeze (kernel level memory corruption?) | 09:30 |
| BenC | ah, that's a different story :) | 09:30 |
| psusi | oopsesses are not good ;) | 09:30 |
| BenC | yeah, dem oopsses is bad tings | 09:30 |
| bluefoxicy | at first I thought it was because of rhythmbox so I filed a bug against rhythmbox, then i changed the bug saying it was video related, and worked down :) | 09:31 |
| bluefoxicy | (I thought it was rhythmbox because it seemed playing shit in rhythmbox made my kernel freeze in about 5 minutes) | 09:31 |
| === psusi wishes there was something like Soft Ice for the linux kernel | ||
| BenC | kernel freezes are always the kernels fault | 09:31 |
| bluefoxicy | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/29586 | 09:32 |
| BenC | just because it happened when app Foo was running, doesn't make it the apps fault | 09:32 |
| BenC | reassign to linux-source-2.6.15 | 09:32 |
| bluefoxicy | yeah | 09:32 |
| BenC | don't create a new target, just rename the old one | 09:32 |
| bluefoxicy | It's targeted at kernel | 09:32 |
| bluefoxicy | also when 2.6.16 is out will there be a universe package for it? ^o.o^ | 09:33 |
| zul | no | 09:35 |
| BenC | bluefoxicy: target it at "linux-source-2.6.15", else I will never see it | 09:40 |
| bluefoxicy | BenC: what's the priority | 09:43 |
| === bluefoxicy already marked it as critical severity. . . kernel bug. . . . . | ||
| BenC | Major | 09:44 |
| bluefoxicy | priority low med high? | 09:44 |
| BenC | Is it a regression from breezy, or did 2.6.12 work ok? | 09:44 |
| bluefoxicy | Back in the day of 2.6.12 there wasn't even a driver IIRC | 09:44 |
| bluefoxicy | I KNOW there was no X driver in breezy | 09:44 |
| BenC | well, if it's not a regression, and there exists a workaround, and it affects few people (this is the first I have heard of it), then mark it Normal, High | 09:47 |
| bluefoxicy | reassigned | 10:11 |
| peterz | BenC: I got 2.6.15-16-686 and it still won't boot a UML kernel. | 10:43 |
| BenC | was that related to the 1G/3G change? | 10:50 |
| BenC | right now it's 2G/2G | 10:50 |
| peterz | might be; I'll try and boot one of my own kernels for a change and see what they do with a 2/2 split | 10:51 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Hi | 11:21 |
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