[12:00] <joel> }
[12:00] <Madpilot> joel: use a pastebin next time!
[12:00] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[12:00] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[12:00] <Rug> ozrg: Do you have anything (storage device) plugged into your USB chain?
[12:00] <Rug> ok just quit
[12:00] <Francisco> soundray, let me see
[12:01] <Rug> Bye everybody, TTYL
[12:01] <ompaul> bmk789, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto start there there is advanced
[12:01] <zaxxon> how do i use pppoeconf from the HUI ?
[12:01] <Jaczz> ozrg: is it a bootable CD?
[12:01] <zaxxon> *GUI
[12:01] <manu_> can anyone tell me what the config.status is? I am trying to build from source the code for gbtcr
[12:02] <rob__> Oh wow, that did the trick.
[12:02] <savon> ~/.wine/drive_c
[12:02] <savon> bash: /home/savon/.wine/drive_c: is a directory
[12:02] <savon> how do I do know?
[12:02] <savon> I wana do dir on It
[12:02] <basbryan> savon: ls /home/savon/.wine/drive_c
[12:03] <theskunk> hey all, anybody had problems with X working after installing Ubuntu 64 bit?
[12:03] <Francisco> soundray, how can I do that.
[12:03] <Francisco> I have connect it..
[12:03] <Francisco> then?
[12:04] <soundray> Francisco, open a terminal window and type lsusb [return] 
[12:04] <Francisco> soundray, yeah Bus 001 Device 002: ID 22b8:4902 Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone
[12:05] <soundray> Francisco, so it sees it as a phone, that's good. Is there another line that corresponds to it?
[12:05] <jerware> fellaz
[12:05] <savon> thx, but how can I come in to Program Files?
[12:05] <jerware> is /bin/sh the bash shell?
[12:05] <pontusen> aaaah, the smell of n00biness.
[12:05] <Francisco> soundray, I do nor think so."
[12:05] <jerware> how do i know what shell im using and the path to that shell?
[12:06] <Francisco> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:06] <Francisco> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:06] <Francisco> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:06] <Francisco> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 045e:00a4 Microsoft Corp.
[12:06] <Francisco> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:06] <Francisco> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 22b8:4902 Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone
[12:06] <Francisco> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:06] <pontusen> the way to go, Francisco!
[12:06] <savon> yes im a noobi
[12:06] <Francisco> pontusen, why."
[12:06] <NickGarvey> !paste
[12:06] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[12:06] <basbryan> savon: cd /home/savon/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[12:06] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[12:06] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[12:06] <pontusen> Francisco,  listen to Madpilot and NickGarvey...
[12:07] <NickGarvey> :)
[12:07] <Francisco> pontusen, to who."??
[12:07] <NickGarvey> ubotu
[12:07] <Francisco> soundray, just apper that."
[12:07] <dyrne> savon: start to type and hit tab it will autocomplete for you make it a little quicker
[12:07] <NickGarvey> !tell francisco about paste
[12:07] <NickGarvey> what command would I use to list every file a user owns
[12:07] <Francisco> nick but how can I ue the pastebin."
[12:08] <pontusen> ubuntu is quite a nice distro, first one on linux. learned me a lot. or something :P
[12:08] <pontusen> Francisco,  copy the text, follow the url, and paste
[12:08] <jerware> how can i set a particular services to run before even loging into a user account?  do i edit cron levels?
[12:08] <Rob_Dude> How different are the distros?  I don't really understand what they are
[12:08] <Francisco> pontusen, ok I got it. tha both NickGarvey
[12:09] <pontusen> NickGarvey,  something like #ls -la /* | grep foo
[12:09] <NickGarvey> jerware: has something to do with the rc
[12:09] <NickGarvey> okie
[12:09] <jerware> rc  relevent to cron ?
[12:09] <NickGarvey> ah ha!
[12:09] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude: how different are which distros?
[12:09] <zaxxon> can any one give any help with an app called pppoeconf ?
[12:09] <NickGarvey> genius
[12:09] <NickGarvey> never thought of that
[12:09] <NickGarvey> heh
[12:09] <jerware> or is that a different concept?
[12:09] <clara> hoola!!!!
[12:09] <ozrg> hi
[12:09] <pulver> hey! need some stuff directly compiled in kernel not as modules. is there some ubuntu trix to do this or do you have to compile every new kernel by hand?
[12:09] <soundray> Francisco, I am not sure whether your phone is able to transfer images via USB.
[12:09] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  there are hard ones, and easy ones
[12:09] <clara> hola!!!
[12:09] <jerware> i have seen directories labled rc.d
[12:09] <jt3k> hola clara
[12:10] <ozrg> can someone tell me why do I get a message like ' search usb hdd devices' when I try to install ubuntu??
[12:10] <Francisco> soundray, how can i know it."
[12:10] <Rob_Dude> Any of them really; I went with Ubuntu because I heard the install was smooth...but I don't really get 'what' is different between them?
[12:10] <pontusen> NickGarvey,  was I right about the ls?
[12:10] <NickGarvey> ls -Rla | grep root
[12:10] <clara> como entro al canal en espaol?
[12:10] <NickGarvey> that did it
[12:10] <NickGarvey> you gave me the right idea
[12:10] <Rob_Dude> Like, if you had RedHat, would you still be able to run the same programs as someone with Ubuntu
[12:10] <colm> !es
[12:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:10] <jt3k> escribe /join #ubuntu-es en la ventana principal
[12:10] <NickGarvey> Rob_Dude: well kind of
[12:10] <NickGarvey> Rob_Dude: most of them, but binarys are different, .deb and .rpm
[12:10] <soundray> Francisco, read the manual?
[12:10] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  distros installs different ways, handles programs different, among other things, but yes, they will run the same programs, almost
[12:11] <Francisco> soundray, wich one manual."!
[12:11] <NickGarvey> I have not yet successfully compiled a program on my current linux so I usually look for binaries heh
[12:11] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  if you can't find a .deb/ .rpm for a specific proggie, you can download/install from source-code
[12:11] <HammerBlade2020> what program is good for webcams in ubuntu?
[12:11] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, I gotcha
[12:11] <pontusen> NickGarvey,  really? i do that all the time :P
[12:11] <zx8> hi , my microphone is not working
[12:11] <soundray> Francisco, the one that came with your phone.
[12:11] <pontusen> zx8, hi, okey
[12:11] <ozrg> is anyone helping?
[12:12] <Francisco> soundray, ah ok. yeah It can. "
[12:12] <NickGarvey> yeah I have an error with gcc I think
[12:12] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, motion is cool.
[12:12] <Madpilot> ozrg: just ask your questions, someone will help you if they can...
[12:12] <Francisco> with windows I can with a software. I have try with wine but It not works."
[12:12] <zx8> pontusen: do you know how i can fix that
[12:12] <dyrne> ozrg: all removable HD unplugged?
[12:13] <ozrg> can someone tell me why do I get a message like ' search usb hdd devices' when I try to install ubuntu??
[12:13] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, how do i set-up my webcam in ubuntu
[12:13] <soundray> Francisco, maybe you have to initiate the transfer via AT commands. In that case, you will need to install minicom and find out the exact commands you need.
[12:13] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, I don't know. It depends on the chipset inside it.
[12:13] <Francisco> can I find minocom in synaptic."
[12:13] <Neurosis> Is there a linux app for Imesh
[12:13] <ozrg> dyrne, i have no removable hd.
[12:13] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, oh, it's a logitech
[12:13] <soundray> Francisco, yes.
[12:13] <pontusen> Francisco,  one way to find out, check.
[12:14] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, Logitech webcams come with 73* different chipsets.
[12:14] <dyrne> ozrg: no other usb devices plugged in
[12:14] <soundray> *estimated :)
[12:14] <zaxxon> PULLING MY HAIRS OUT !>>!
[12:14] <dyrne> ?
[12:14] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, well.. how do i figure out how to set this mofo up
[12:14] <zaxxon> any UK user ? with a usb adsl modem ?
[12:14] <pulver> zaxxon: that gotta hurt
[12:15] <ozrg> dyrne, i've unplugged them all, but still the same.
[12:15] <zaxxon> it does
[12:15] <dyrne> ozrg: honestly ive never seen that error during install before..
[12:15] <manu_> anyone familiar with gnome-autogen?
[12:15] <Francisco> soundray, ok when I got it what?
[12:15] <pontusen> manu_,  what about it?
[12:15] <bubba> how do i fix my acpi issue?
[12:15] <HammerBlade2020> !webcam
[12:15] <ubotu> [webcam]  now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[12:15] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, when you plug it in, does it load a module called spca5xx? Check with lsmod
[12:15] <zaxxon> !usb modem
[12:15] <Neurosis> !imesh
[12:15] <ubotu> zaxxon: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:15] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Neurosis
[12:15] <manu_> I get a weird message while using make
[12:15] <axident> can someone help me install the latest version of firefox on my ubuntu... please msg me if you would be so kind.  I am pretty much a newb
[12:15] <zaxxon> !adsl
[12:15] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL PPPoE Connection? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:16] <manu_> ./config.status: No such file or directory
[12:16] <ozrg> dyrne, you think it could be a set of card devices that are intergrated to my base unit causing this problem
[12:16] <ozrg> ?
[12:16] <bubba> !acpi
[12:16] <ubotu> bubba: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:16] <dyrne> ozrg: at what point is ther error?
[12:16] <pontusen> axident,  install it via synaptic?
[12:16] <manu_> I don t know why it is not generated
[12:16] <Madpilot> manu_: do you have build-essential installed?
[12:16] <manu_> yep
[12:16] <Neurosis> !p2p
[12:16] <ubotu> methinks p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[12:16] <manu_> I just did
[12:16] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, i don't see it ..
[12:16] <manu_> I did gnome-autogen.sh --prefix=$PWD
[12:16] <soundray> Francisco, make friends with it, read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/minicom/* ...
[12:16] <ozrg> dyrne, beginning
[12:16] <zaxxon> is adsl with linux available only through ethernet ?
[12:16] <manu_> it passes
[12:16] <zaxxon> what about usb modems ?
[12:16] <manu_> but then  make bails right away
[12:17] <zx8> i have the intel ich5 chipset and my soundcard is not working
[12:17] <pontusen> zaxxon,  it's quite possible, i recon
[12:17] <manu_> complaining about config.status
[12:17] <zaxxon> 4flip sake
[12:17] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, run 'lsusb' and see if it is listed.
[12:17] <pontusen> zx8, have the right kernel modules? have installed alsa?
[12:17] <zaxxon> where would one look to see about drivers for a usb modem ?
[12:17] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, their is Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:c50a Logitech, Inc.
[12:17] <HammerBlade2020> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:17] <HammerBlade2020> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc.
[12:18] <manu_> Madpilot: any idea?
[12:18] <zx8> yes ubuntu did that for me i think
[12:18] <HammerBlade2020> but i also have a logitech headset ..
[12:18] <soundray> Francisco, sorry, I can't give you detailed advice, because I haven't got your mobile phone.
[12:18] <zaxxon> the wiki only refers to a ethernt card to which the modems connect
[12:18] <^j^> Hi, I just installed kubuntu and it didn't ask me for a root password to define. Now I have a user with a password, but no root password.
[12:18] <^j^> What's the password?
[12:18] <^j^> The root password?
[12:18] <fatbrain> How can I enable SPDIF audio output?
[12:18] <nickrud>  !rootsudo
[12:18] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:18] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, unplug the headset and see if the line is still there. And don't paste in the channel pls.
[12:18] <nickrud> ^j^: that ubotu above was for you
[12:18] <pontusen> ^j^,  use sudo
[12:18] <pulver> i only have 141M left on device.. is it enough for kernel sources?
[12:18] <^j^> ubotu:  And how do i unlock it?
[12:18] <ubotu> ^j^: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:18] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, yes line still their
[12:19] <zx8> type: sudu su
[12:19] <zx8> to get root
[12:19] <nickrud> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo <-- ^j^
[12:19] <pontusen> ^j^,  don't, use sudo instead
[12:19] <colm> ^j^, read the wiki page
[12:19] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, their != there
[12:19] <HammerBlade2020> yeai know
[12:19] <HammerBlade2020> what do i do now.
[12:19] <amphi> pulver: apt-get clean might give you more space
[12:19] <HammerBlade2020> since it shows up
[12:19] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, install xawtv and see if you can get a picture from your cam.
[12:19] <dyrne> ozrg: my only other thought would be either bad disk..maybe redownload reburn.  might also try livecd see if it boots
[12:20] <zx8> is there a way to switch window managers in ubuntu
[12:20] <pulver> amphi: ok ty
[12:20] <soundray> zx8, on the login screen, by selecting a different session.
[12:20] <pontusen> zx8,  yes
[12:20] <bubba> my acpi is out of control!
[12:20] <pontusen> :( 2 seconds after everything
[12:20] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, i just get a bunch of errors about no device at /dev/video0
[12:20] <zx8> i do not understand?
[12:21] <Madpilot> manu_: I avoid compiling myself - just wanted to ask the obvious question about build-essential
[12:21] <Francisco> soundray, but _It possible I got it on internet.
[12:21] <pontusen> zx8,  log out, then change session in gdm
[12:21] <zx8> do i need to install kde first if i want to use kde
[12:21] <manu_> Madpilot: I use packages too but this one does not exist
[12:21] <jerware> is ubuntu a System V system?
[12:21] <odla> zx8: huh?
[12:21] <pontusen> zx8,  isn't that quite obvious?(yes)
[12:21] <nickrud> jerware: yes
[12:21] <soundray> Francisco, I found a few things, too, like http://tuxoft.de/V3/
[12:21] <manu_> I am trying to compile gbytcr (gnome bluetooth remote services)
[12:21] <zx8> will ubuntu have any strange quirks?
[12:22] <nickrud> jerware: /etc/rcS.d/, and /etc/rc2.d/ are the relevant startups
[12:22] <odla> zx8: like?
[12:22] <manu_> it is tobe able to control through bluetooth the desktop or Music
[12:22] <pontusen> zx8,  no. never.
[12:22] <manu_> unfortunately no packages
[12:22] <bubba> i make poopies from by bottom.
[12:22] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, ?
[12:22] <zx8> if i switch to kde will my installed packages show up ok?
[12:22] <jerware> thanx nickrud
[12:22] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, patience...
[12:22] <odla> zx8: yes
[12:22] <pontusen> zx8,  prolly, or you can access them via a term
[12:23] <zx8> true
[12:23] <pontusen> zx8,  and make shortcuts
[12:23] <dyrne> zx8: yes you can install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop both
[12:23] <Francisco> soundray, thx could be the solution."
[12:23] <amphi> pulver: did that help?
[12:23] <Whoopie> Hi, I'm using breezy. since I need to use kernel 2.6.15, I installed a vanilla one. but kernel 2.6.15 breaks current udev in breezy. Does anybody know how to fix it, esspecially the Synaptics touchpad problem. But I don't want to upgrade to dapper. thanks for helping.
[12:23] <manu_> it is in fedora but not  in debian or ubuntu
[12:24] <bubba> Whoopie, my synaptics touchpad works with 2.6.12-10
[12:24] <lucis> Hi, when I connect my USB MP3 player, I get an error. Any ideas?
[12:24] <dyrne> lucis: what error?
[12:24] <pontusen> lucis,  would you consider showing the err output?
[12:24] <nmz787> hello
[12:25] <Whoopie> I know, but I need 2.6.15 because of other issues. I have to fix udev that it creates the /dev nodes. But I don't know how.
[12:25] <lucis> it says that media:/sda1 does not exist
[12:25] <bubba> Whoopie, you might want to edit your xorg.conf if your having problems with it going nutzo...
[12:25] <pulver> amphi: my obj was just to install some stuff directly into the kernel from a small temp serverinstall partition.. not sure the best way to do it tho
[12:25] <lucis> Pont, I'm sorry, but copy/paste isn't working apparently
[12:25] <pontusen> Whoopie,  you could create a symlink from where it really is to where it should be
[12:25] <dyrne> lucis: if you ls /media does sda1 show up?
[12:26] <lucis> dyrne, one sec
[12:26] <amphi> pulver: WAYTTD?
[12:26] <pontusen> lucis,  or try sudo fdisk -l
[12:26] <Whoopie> it's nowhere. The /dev/input/event? and /dev/input/mouse? are missing.
[12:26] <pulver> amphi: huh :)
[12:26] <nmz787> is there any way to slim ubuntu down so there are less backround processes eating cycles... and how about speeding boot time?
[12:26] <pontusen> Whoopie,  the mouse could e at /dev/mice/mouse0 or something, try ls /dev/* | grep mouse
[12:27] <amphi> pulver: 'what are you trying to do?'
[12:27] <zx8> is there a way to install apt-get on ubuntu without breaking anything or messing up the dependency trees?
[12:27] <amphi> nmz787: boot time? why boot? ;)
[12:27] <Francisco> soundray, I got it the AT comnad but i do not know use it."
[12:27] <odla> zx8: ???
[12:27] <Alexi5> tonite is the night that windows xp will be demoted from my machine and replaced by ubuntu
[12:27] <osh_> What does the "rc" stand for when you do a dpkg -l?
[12:27] <cafuego> zx8: What sort of question is that?
[12:27] <HammerBlade2020> hm
[12:27] <Alexi5> i hope i am not making a mistake by doing this
[12:27] <pontusen> zx8,  quite possible, yes
[12:27] <cafuego> zx8: ubuntu is based on debian and *uses* apt-get
[12:28] <nmz787> amphi: well i wouldn't worry if i could get to know how to check vitals and gain stability so much
[12:28] <pontusen> Alexi5,  you won't. ubuntu is very easy to get running
[12:28] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, normally, your camera driver should automatically activate the /dev/video0 device. If it doesn't I suggest you search the web for your particular camera model.
[12:28] <pontusen> Alexi5,  and we are here if you have issues ;)
[12:28] <amphi> nmz787: check vitals?
[12:28] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, i used easycam to install the driver
[12:28] <pulver> amphi: oh just want the modules for encryption available when booting into my ramdisk/initrd
[12:28] <Alexi5> nice
[12:28] <nmz787> all i know how to use is ps -A and kill
[12:28] <Whoopie> pontusen, please believe me. they are missing. It's because of the kernel changes. Kernel 2.6.15 is only working with udev >= 0.71, but we have 0.60 on breezy. so now, I must know what the changes are and how I can perhaps fix it.
[12:28] <amphi> pulver: oh, encrypted / fun, huh?
[12:28] <dyrne> nmz787: chances are there is alot of stuf loading at boot you dont need.  ubuntuforums.org has several threads on speeding bootup
[12:29] <Alexi5> currently backing up my files
[12:29] <odla> Whoopie: why do you need that kernel so bad?
[12:29] <lucis> Dyrne, when I ls /media, the player is there
[12:29] <pontusen> Whoopie,  okey, i see. seems quite a bad problem :/
[12:29] <soundray> Francisco, that's where minicom comes in. You have to configure minicom to communicate with your phone via a device, probably something like /dev/ttyUSB0
[12:29] <zx8> ohh , i did not know i could use apt-get from the command line , sorry , dumb question lol
[12:29] <pulver> amphi: yea if it works :)
[12:29] <soundray> Francisco, then you can give it AT commands.
[12:29] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, what's easycam?
[12:29] <pontusen> zx8,  but of course. terms = best friends
[12:29] <Rob_Dude> Alexi5 - If you have the space, you might want to dual boot until you've got Ubuntu up and running - at least if you are a newbie to Linux (like me, lol)
[12:29] <nmz787> amphi: i can usually get system to recover from hanging using those commands, but it's usually stuff like nautilus and ubuntu standard firefox that hang.
[12:30] <Francisco> soundray, aoooooooooooooop
[12:30] <amphi> pulver: there are many howtos, I believe, including one a debian-administration.org IIRC
[12:30] <soundray> Francisco, what?
[12:30] <Whoopie> odla: I have a thinkpad laptop. kernel 2.6.15 let's all hardware working (with same minor patches).
[12:30] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, do you know what the etc/fstab would look like?
[12:30] <dyrne> lucis: you see a 'sda1' directory there? how are you trying to mount it
[12:31] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, you don't change fstab to configure a webcam.
[12:31] <Alexi5> i have had experience with freebsd
[12:31] <lucis> Dyrne, honestly I'm not sure. I connected it, and Konquerer came up with that error.
[12:31] <dyrne> ah
[12:31] <pontusen> Alexi5,  freebsd is far more complicated than ubuntu!
[12:31] <pianoboy3333> are there any perl IDE's in the repos?
[12:31] <Francisco> soundray, I do not have idea.."
[12:31] <Alexi5> so i see
[12:31] <dyrne> lucis: but the exact directory is there when you ls?
[12:31] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, unless it stores images, in which case it may be possible to use it like a USB mass storage device.
[12:31] <HammerBlade2020> soundray, is this what i want http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~tuukkat/quickcam/quickcam.html
[12:31] <lucis> Dyrne, yes. The name that shows up is IAUDIO. Should i try to mount it?
[12:32] <amphi> nmz787: you have a problem with your video card driver perhaps?
[12:32] <Alexi5> i had use red hat before ubuntu but i  became annoyed at updating software with rpms
[12:32] <MisterN> n8
[12:32] <Drac|Laptop> Can somebody in here tell me where I can find a reliable repository for xorg? Dapper is seemingly lacking on.
[12:32] <pontusen> lucis,  it might not be @ /dev/sda1 , but somewhere else, hence the err output
[12:32] <jetscreamer> so you've decided to update software with apt-get
[12:32] <lucis> pont, ok
[12:32] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, it could be. Or it could be http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/webcam.html -- it really depends on your camera chipset.
[12:32] <odla> Drac|Laptop: dapper has 7.0
[12:32] <nmz787> amphi: i am on a dell inspiron 4000 notebook, i don't offhand know what the video is.
[12:32] <zx8> have any of you guys tried out gentoo distro?
[12:32] <Drac|Laptop> Nevermind. :P
[12:33] <GTX> Can someone help me setup an mail server, I have all the dns working just need to work out how to assign a username/pw to a certain email, Im using dovecot atm, But im willing to swap if u know anything better!
[12:33] <amphi> nmz787: lspci would tell you
[12:33] <pontusen> Alexi5,  you can use synaptic to do that. quite easy, i believe
[12:33] <jetscreamer> lspci nmz787
[12:33] <pontusen> zx8,  im on gentoo <3
[12:33] <zx8> pontusen: is it really nice?
[12:33] <pontusen> zx8,  yes.
[12:33] <jetscreamer> depends on if you made it nice though
[12:33] <soundray> HammerBlade2020, you may be able to learn something about your camera if you watch the system logs. Run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', then plug it in.
[12:33] <zx8> do you think that it is worth switching to from the ubuntu distro?
[12:34] <pontusen> zx8,  i decided to put some time on my installment, now i have it the way i precisely want it!
[12:34] <pulver> amphi: ok thanks will chk it out, however im so close now.. if just could get those modules loaded somehow...
[12:34] <nmz787> ati ragemobility m3 apg 2x is what is listed
[12:34] <dyrne> lucis: couple ways to check you could ls -t /dev | grep sd i guess and see what shows up
[12:34] <jetscreamer> zx8: it's all subjective, run both and decide later when you know
[12:34] <nmz787> ati rage mobility m3 agp 2x is what is listed
[12:34] <pontusen> zx8,  well, I had ubuntu 2 months, then win xp, then moved to gentoo. took quite some time to learn many things, so worth it though!
[12:34] <lucis> Dyrne, sda1 shows up there
[12:34] <pontusen> zx8,  if you want to spend time, and like the things gentoo stands for, shoot
[12:35] <^j^> How can I install kde 3.5 on ubuntu?
[12:35] <^j^> Is it directly from the repositories?
[12:35] <pontusen> ^j^,  kubuntu-desktop in synaptic, i believe?
[12:35] <GTX> Can someone help me setup an mail server, I have all the dns working just need to work out how to assign a username/pw to a certain email, Im using dovecot atm, But im willing to swap if u know anything better!
[12:35] <Unity> pontusen: i believe that is kde 3.4
[12:35] <_jason> !kde3.5
[12:35] <ubotu> (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[12:35] <zx8> ^j^: go to terminal and type:sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <dyrne> lucis: ok for kicks try sudo mkdir /media/sda1 then unplug plug back in
[12:35] <colm> ^j^, join #kubuntu they'll be able to help
[12:36] <lucis> dyrne, ok
[12:36] <pontusen> gnome > kde tho
[12:36] <Unity> new ubuntu will have all these new stuff like new gaim and new kde by default, right?
[12:36] <Seveas> !tell ^j^ about kde3.5
[12:36] <Seveas> Unity, yes
[12:36] <bubba> do i really need an acpi anyway?
[12:36] <pontusen> Unity,  don't think ubuntu comes with kde, kubuntu might be a better shot :P
[12:36] <Alexi5> !tell Alexi5 about kde3.5
[12:36] <nmz787> amphi: how do i tell if there is a problem?
[12:36] <zx8> i could not get ubuntu to work until i disabled acpi
[12:37] <pulver> pontusen: gnome is nice, but its a bit non responsive on my old box.. kde is faster
[12:37] <Unity> pontusen: i meant the version of kde that comes with kubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <bubba> its filling my /var/log :( and i think it might have something to do with my wifi not working :(
[12:37] <pontusen> pulver,  oh, but if you wan't a fast window manager, then try fluxbox, it's THE wm for older machines!
[12:37] <pontusen> Unity,  my bad
[12:38] <dyrne> lucis: if you open the /etc/fstab file with a text editor you will see all the /dev/whatever and where it will try to mount them.  If you want them to mount to a different directory you only need to edit that file
[12:38] <Unity> pontusen: no problem
[12:38] <pontusen> dyrne,  he would have to edit fstab under sudo, right?
[12:39] <pulver> pontusen, true.. but as de's goes.. i would choose gnome if it was less laggy on this hardware..
[12:39] <dyrne> pontusen: thats true
[12:39] <pontusen> pulver,  great :)
[12:39] <dos000> anyone where to get gnome-window-settings-2.0 for breezy ?
[12:39] <pontusen> dyrne,  just to spare him another headache :P
[12:40] <GTX> how do I completly remove an apt-get ?
[12:41] <_jason> GTX: apt-get remove --purge packagename
[12:41] <bimberi> GTX: apt-get remove --purge <package>
[12:41] <GTX> ta
[12:41] <soundray> dos000, it's in the gnome-control-center package.
[12:42] <soundray> dos000, the version has to fit with your installed gnome version, I think.
[12:42] <nickrud> I have totally fallen down, helping someone get a fetchmail -> mail server -> dovecot system working for someone, anyone willing to step up?
[12:42] <bubba>  ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.BAT1._BST]  (Node ffff81001ac4ec00), AE_NOT_FOUND
[12:42] <bubba> how do i fix that?
[12:42] <pinkisntwell_> when i try to start ubuntu I get /bin/sh can't access tty: job control turned off
[12:43] <pinkisntwell_> what is this?
[12:43] <Odice> hi
[12:43] <Odice> how can i make the xv video output to work?
[12:43] <mirak> hi
[12:43] <mirak> does anyone have a problem running amsn on dapper ?
[12:43] <Odice> right now i can only use the gl output
[12:43] <dyrne> nickrud: default install in wiki didnt do what you needed?
[12:44] <dyrne> nickrud: ah read the rest of your question nm
[12:44] <nickrud> dyrne: the problem is I have done this a multitude of times, so much that I can't explain how to do it anymore 
[12:44] <manu_> exit
[12:44] <utshwala> testing
[12:44] <isceald> so... every time i get my wireless card working, my keyboard freezes ...
[12:44] <isceald> any ideas?
[12:44] <glacious> how can i get grep to print out the string it searched for after each line/file it finds it in?
[12:44] <pontusen> utshwala,  testing went fine? :P
[12:45] <pontusen> glacious,  print it where? in a term?
[12:45] <punkrockguy318> I'm working on a simple python networking program.  Could I have someone download my client and see if they can connect properly?
[12:45] <bubba> and i thought i had wireless problems!
[12:45] <Francisco> soundray, I have found it motol4 and I think so." I will be the solution maybe.!
[12:45] <glacious> pontusen: to the std out where it prints everythingelse
[12:46] <soundray> Francisco, excellent.
[12:46] <dyrne> nickrud: you need to work on your instruction skills.  i take it youve never had to spend 5 minutes getting someon to click on the 'start' button before? :P
[12:46] <pontusen> glacious,  like #grep [options]  PATTERN [FILE...]   ?
[12:46] <nickrud> dyrne: me blushes, it took me 10 minutes once
[12:46] <^j^> I modified all what it says to have a root passwd and don't let sudo work without the root passwd, but I can still get in without passwd.
[12:46] <^j^> Do I need to restart or what?
[12:46] <GTX> does ubuntu support
[12:46] <nickrud> dyrne: the problem isn't the helpee, it's the helper today
[12:46] <GTX> directadmin ?
[12:46] <glacious> pontusen: yes, and then it lists all the files it found the pattern in.  but i also want it to list what the pattern was it found in each file
[12:47] <glacious> pontusen: because i have it using a list of patters in a line-delimited file for searching
[12:48] <soundray> glacious, I don't think grep has an option that does this, so you have to do something like 'pattern=abcd ; grep $pattern files | tr -d "\n" ; echo $pattern'
[12:48] <osh_> Is there a default password for mysql in kubuntu?
[12:48] <pontusen> soundray,  i was just working on that solution :P
[12:48] <osh_> s/k//g
[12:48] <pontusen> glacious,  listen to soundray, seems to be a good resolution
[12:49] <glacious> soundray: ahh ok.  i was trying to just make a bash script that searched a directory of files for a certain pattern within the files, and display what files had which pattern
[12:49] <rohan> Having a problem with mplayer. when trying to play dvd i get "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device". it worked last week!
[12:49] <[aJ] > I installed php5 using aptitude how do I enable apache to use it....something about /etc/apache2/mod-enabled
[12:49] <Francisco> soundray, can you help me."?
[12:49] <GTX> does ubuntu support
[12:49] <GTX> directadmin ?
[12:50] <glacious> soundray: but the patters are stored in a separate file
[12:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell [aJ]  about lamp
[12:50] <soundray> Francisco, I can try -- Warning: I last used minicom about six years ago :)
[12:50] <Francisco> I am doing the process but I don't undersatn the instrutionn.s"
[12:50] <[aJ] > _jason: I was looking for the command a2enmod
[12:50] <Francisco> soundray, This should download the source into a directory named moto4lin. Now compile the source.
[12:51] <soundray> glacious, sounds to me like a case for 'for pattern in $(cat patterns) ; do grep $pattern files | tr -d "\n" ; echo $pattern ; done
[12:51] <soundray> '
[12:51] <Francisco> soundray, how can I compile
[12:52] <^j^> Where is the sources list?
[12:52] <pontusen> Francisco,  there should be a readme for specific details to compile from source
[12:52] <^j^> They mention it, but where is it?
[12:52] <soundray> Francisco, you may find more detail in a file called README or INSTALL. Generically, it's 'make ; sudo make install' or similar.
[12:53] <Tysai> can anyone help with a kmenu problem?
[12:53] <soundray> ^j^, in /etc/apt/
[12:53] <Francisco> pontusen, there is not a readme."
[12:53] <emily> I'm trying to understand how to use samba in ubuntu to mount my university account onto my computer at home. It's very easy in OS-X, but I don't understand how to do it in ubuntu. how do you use samba on the client-end?
[12:53] <Francisco> ~$cd moto4lin
[12:53] <Francisco> ~/moto4lin$qmake
[12:53] <Francisco> ~/moto4lin$make
[12:53] <Francisco> ~/moto4lin$sudo make install
[12:53] <Francisco> sorry
[12:53] <GTX> does ubuntu support direct admin?
[12:54] <soundray> emily, very simple -- you don't :)
[12:54] <emily> soundray, ok then what do i use...? i don't understand how os-x does it, but I've been told that I can do it in ubuntu. the service OS-X uses is unix
[12:54] <soundray> emily, you use smbclient / smbmount.
[12:55] <emily> soundray, can you give me example of the syntax?
[12:55] <emily> or send me somewhere to learn?
[12:55] <savon> HEllo my movies is playing to fast!
[12:55] <^j^> to upgrade from hoary to breezy I just need to change the source.list?
[12:55] <savon> What is wrong?
[12:55] <_jason> !breezy
[12:55] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:56] <robertj> emily, do you want it automounted on /mnt/Somewhere at boot or just to be able to save to it?
[12:56] <savon> I think it playing in 30 fps but they shold play in 25
[12:56] <_jason> savon: if you use mplayer you can use []  and {} to change playback speed, don't know about your actual problem though
[12:57] <emily> robertj, either way.  I want to be able to mount it somewhere and unmount it if I feel like it.  read/write, etc
[12:57] <K-O> Does anyone know why i can't edit the Kmenu?
[12:57] <_jason> K-O: try asking #kubuntu too
[12:57] <savon> oh I use vlc!
[12:57] <bubba> every 3 to 5 seconds, my log files get bigger and bigger!
[12:57] <savon> and gxine
[12:57] <_jason> savon: see if it happens with other players too
[12:57] <robertj> emily: smbmount will work, you might can get by with just gnome vfs by using the Places menu if you aren't a heavy user
[12:57] <biovore> K-O: keditmenu
[12:58] <K-O> oh yea, sorry. im acually using ubuntu with kde installed. ill check the  kubuntu room
[12:58] <_jason> K-O: no problem you can ask here, but more kde users in there so better chance of someone knowing
[12:58] <[aJ] > Ok I installed php5-mysql and php5-pgsql and both of them are for the wrong client version for php. I've got pgsql 8.1.2 installed and phpinfo() says it has 8.0.3 and I've got mysql 4.1.12 and phpinfo says it's got mysql client 4.0.24. Is there a way to fix this?
[12:58] <Alexi5> can you guys tell me if you can see this pic on my web server http://kenalex.ath.cx/test/Sreenshot.png
[12:58] <K-O> thanks
[12:59] <[aJ] > [aJ] : who's going to be first to tell me to compile from scratch? :D
[12:59] <savon> with thotem to
[12:59] <_jason> Alexi5: no
[12:59] <savon> totem
[12:59] <Alexi5> _jason: did you get an error
[12:59] <dutch> Alexi5: 404
[12:59] <_jason> [aJ] : just use the link ubotu sent you before
[12:59] <emily> robertj, i tried to read about smbmount but I don't understand the syntax or how to use that command...  i also tried using the places menu, but i don't know what to type in all the fields...
[01:00] <_jason> Alexi5: yes, page doesn't exist
[01:00] <Alexi5> try http://kenalex.ath.cx/test/
[01:00] <[aJ] > _jason: thanks
[01:00] <Alexi5> and see if you see any thing in the directory
[01:00] <robertj> emily: what do you type in OS X?
[01:00] <[aJ] > _jason: I need php5 not 4
[01:00] <dutch> Alexi5: that works
[01:00] <z1pp3r> Is there a way of installing the 'nvidia' driver through synaptic nowadays? Or am i still forced to install them "by hand"? Using ubuntu 5.10
[01:00] <Alexi5> check out the file screenshot.png
[01:01] <Alexi5> and see it loads
[01:01] <emily> robertj, in osx, it's all gui.  you just type 'command+k' and you type in the name of the campus server.  it then asks for a username and password.
[01:01] <dutch> Alexi5: it's there
[01:01] <[aJ] > _jason: guess I'll just install from source
[01:01] <isceald> can anyone tell me how to resolve irq conflicts?
[01:01] <emily> robertj, it then just mounts that share on your desktop.
[01:01] <_jason> [aJ] : php5 is in the repos just use the instructions and change the 4 to a 5
[01:02] <_jason> Alexi5: yeah that page works
[01:02] <z1pp3r> isceald, try moving one of the components that are conflicting. If it's the soundcard for example, try moving it to the pci port above it or the one below it
[01:02] <savon> IT happens with 3 video players vls totem and gxine, that the movies is playing to fast!
[01:02] <cafuego> emily: It's all GUI in Gnome too. You choose 'Places -> Connect to Server...' and then set it up.
[01:03] <emily> robertj, when I try using the places menu, it appears to mount something, so i know i got it partly right, but it gives me an error when i try to open the folder.
[01:03] <HelpMeWithACPI> isceald, irq conflicts are when 2 devices are trying to use the same IRQ. set one to a different IRQ, or disable IRQ (if possible for that device).
[01:03] <isceald> it's my usb keyboard (ps2 port is broken) and a pci card, i guess i can move the pci
[01:03] <soundray> emily, you probably have to enter something like 'sudo smbmount //windowsserver/shareddir/ /mnt/ -o username=user,workgroup=WORKGROUP'
[01:03] <Alexi5> thanks _jason and dutch
[01:03] <robertj> emily: hold a sec
[01:03] <soundray> emily, seeing this, do you know what to replace with what?
[01:03] <isceald> helpme, i know that, i jsut want to know what the command is to change it.
[01:03] <emily> cafuego, yeah i tried that, but like i just said to robertj, i don't know all the information I apparently need to make it work... so i need to learn what all those parts mean
[01:03] <emily> soundray, i don't know what the 'workgroup' would be...
[01:03] <cafuego> emily: Ah ok. Is there any chance whatoever thats amba is not yet installed?
[01:04] <HelpMeWithACPI> 25528   /var/log/
[01:04] <HelpMeWithACPI>   <--- getting bigger
[01:04] <emily> cafuego, no samba is installed.
[01:04] <lekvar> I've had an install problem I'd like to toss out for comment if anyone has any.  I've researched it and found nothing especially helpful, but I'm still fishing so here goes...
[01:04] <cafuego> HelpMeWithACPI: Yes, that's what log files do.
[01:04] <soundray> emily, try without one first, then.
[01:04] <biovore> HelpMeWithACPI: P4?
[01:05] <fatbrain> What's ubuntus equivalent to windows winamp?
[01:05] <HelpMeWithACPI> cafuego, do yours fill up 25M/day?
[01:05] <cafuego> HelpMeWithACPI:  1037320 /var/log   (You have a LONG way to go)
[01:05] <lekvar> I'm trying to install Breezy on a Thinkpad 600e with a xircom ethernet card and the installer refuses to set it up regardless of which modules I load.  I think it's really a 2.6 kernel issue since I had the same problem with Debian and 2.6 kernels.  Does this ring any bells?
[01:05] <HelpMeWithACPI> biovore, Turion 64
[01:05] <biovore> no clue there
[01:05] <lekvar> [The "it" which isn't set up being the pcmcia ethernet interface.] 
[01:05] <cafuego> fatbrain: beep-media-player (bmp) or xmms
[01:05] <crimsun> lekvar: you probably need to force apm instead of acpi for the 600E
[01:06] <HelpMeWithACPI> cafuego, holy crap dude, youve got over a gig of logfiles!
[01:06] <crimsun> lekvar: please Google for Thomas Hood's 600E page
[01:06] <rohan> Help! I can't get mplayer to play dvd's --- I HAVE ALL CODECS --- it was working last week and now it's telling me "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device" when i press play. Don't think i've changed anything ... does anyone have any ideas???
[01:06] <cafuego> HelpMeWithACPI: Yeah. *compressed* logfiles.
[01:06] <cafuego> HelpMeWithACPI: They're probably around 10GB when uncompressed
[01:06] <HelpMeWithACPI> cafuego, thats utterly ridiculous
[01:06] <robertj> emily, you need the share name which OS X gives you a list of choices but ubuntu does not
[01:07] <cafuego> HelpMeWithACPI: They're not in the way, why would I trash them?
[01:07] <_jason> cafuego: are these online somewhere?
[01:07] <zipper> cafuego, may i ask why you do not remove some of them?
[01:07] <WildRabbit> Do you guys know of a good, visual / with GUI FTP Server for a local network?
[01:07] <zipper> i mean, what are they good for?
[01:07] <emily> soundray, i tried using that command, replacing it with info that I know, but it says connection failed so i must not know what to type
[01:07] <biovore> WildRabbit: konqueror works well for ftp/sftp/scp
[01:07] <HelpMeWithACPI> cafuego, did  you ever think maybe you should fix something?
[01:07] <fatbrain> cafuego: thanks.
[01:07] <zipper> i know what a log file is good for, but cmon.. You cannot possibly need something that was logged 5 years ago
[01:07] <cafuego> zipper: Tey're mail logs, they allow me to check what's happened to any mail sent/received through my machine over the past few years.
[01:08] <_jason> cafuego: never mind, thought you were talking about irc channel logs
[01:08] <cafuego> HelpMeWithACPI: No, I am aware of rule #1.
[01:08] <cafuego> _jason: Ew, no ;-)
[01:08] <emily> robertj, when i connect using osx, it does give me two names... either 'home' or 'public_html'... so if i want 'home' how do i make that work in ubuntu?
[01:08] <HelpMeWithACPI> cafuego, if it works dont break it some more ?
[01:08] <WildRabbit> biovore, any Gnome ftpd ?
[01:08] <soundray> emily, pls try 'smbclient -u username -L host'. It should ask for your password, then give you a share list.
[01:08] <cafuego> !rule 1
[01:08] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[01:08] <biovore> WildRabbit: theres gftp
[01:09] <biovore> WildRabbit: I never liked it much
[01:09] <WildRabbit> biovore, ftp server
[01:09] <cafuego> HelpMeWithACPI: The box processes mail for around 100 domains, lots of logs is normal.
[01:09] <biovore> or get firefox and fireftp extention
[01:09] <HelpMeWithACPI> cafuego, and well.. yours is working great! better than most!
[01:09] <WildRabbit> biovore,  not client
[01:09] <roaet> how does one configure the places menu?
[01:09] <lekvar> crimsun: You mean the boot parameter apm=force by that, right?
[01:09] <robertj> Service type windows share, server (servername) Share is "home" Username (username) and whatever name you want for the connection
[01:09] <biovore> WildRabbit: server app?
[01:09] <WildRabbit> biovore, yes, that I can access from other computers
[01:09] <robertj> but Gnome VFS is rather crappy :(
[01:09] <zipper> Is there a way of installing the 'nvidia' driver through synaptic nowadays? Or am i still forced to install them "by hand" (download from nvidia site, install, change xorg.conf from nv to nvidia and so on)? Using ubuntu 5.10
[01:09] <soundray> !rule 6
[01:09] <crimsun> lekvar: the precise syntax escapes me momentarily; check Thomas's page
[01:09] <ubotu> it has been said that rule 6 is Do not take yourself too seriously.
[01:09] <biovore> WildRabbit: with a gui?
[01:10] <WildRabbit> biovore, preferrably, anyone that is just easy to install
[01:10] <biovore> WildRabbit: just apt-get install proftpd or wu-ftpd or vsftpd
[01:10] <emily> soundray, it told me "Not enough '\' characters in service
[01:10] <emily> " and outputted usage information
[01:10] <biovore> there should just work out of the box
[01:10] <soundray> emily, 'smbclient -u username -L //host/'.
[01:10] <emily> soundray, that was when i just now tried 'smbclient -u....' like you suggested.
[01:11] <dcode> I'm running breezy on a server, and I wanted to copy over some files from a Mac-formated usb drive...it doesn't recognize any partitions...is there a module that I need to load first?
[01:11] <dcode> besides hfsplus.ko
[01:11] <emily> ok, i tried //onid.orst.edu/ after the -L but it gave me the same output
[01:11] <emily> that was to soundray
[01:11] <soundray> emily, hmm.
[01:12] <Klick_> hey all, whats the best eye candy ftp client out there built for ubuntu?
[01:12] <soundray> emily, 'smbclient -u username -L \\\\host\\' ?
[01:12] <biovore> soundray: you can allways try smb mount
[01:12] <lekvar> crimsun: Thought I'd been through that but maybe I missed something.  I'll dig around thanks.
[01:13] <cafuego> emily: 'smbclient -U username -L hostname'
[01:13] <richbayliss> hi all
[01:13] <GTX> does ubuntu support direct admin?
[01:13] <cafuego> emily: No slashes needed there
[01:13] <richbayliss> im looking for a quick helpout
[01:13] <biovore> ask
[01:13] <richbayliss> on network cards
[01:13] <richbayliss> ok
[01:13] <soundray> cafuego, that's what I thought...
[01:13] <richbayliss> I have a PC, breezy installed, and it has 2 NIC's
[01:13] <richbayliss> both the same card
[01:13] <soundray> biovore, we did.
[01:14] <richbayliss> 1 is detected in the Network Panel
[01:14] <richbayliss> the other isnt
[01:14] <Bradiiel> hi
[01:14] <Bradiiel> i would like some help
[01:14] <richbayliss> but in device manager (ubuntu's) the 2 nics are there
[01:14] <MarcN> beagled seems crashier lately.
[01:14] <richbayliss> so
[01:14] <biovore> richbayliss: what dose ifconfig say?
[01:14] <biovore> richbayliss: (in a terminal type ifconfig)
[01:15] <richbayliss> shows only eth0 and lo
[01:15] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Can someone help me getting NTFS mounting setup?
[01:15] <erUSUL> richbayliss, may help the output of ifconfig -a and lspci -v. Use pastebin
[01:15] <biovore> richbayliss: what about ifconfig -a
[01:15] <Madpilot> !tell Nunquam_Fidelis about mountwindows
[01:15] <erUSUL> !tell Nunquam_Fidelis about windowsdrives
[01:15] <richbayliss> eth0 lo sit0
[01:15] <Bradiiel> i dont no anything about linux, but i installed ubuntu on this old computer, now i start it up, i get this ubuntu screen loading stuff, then it asks me to login, and i dont have a user name or password to put in there
[01:15] <biovore> Nunquam_Fidelis: mount /dev/device -t ntfs /media/mountpoint
[01:15] <erUSUL> richbayliss, and the output of lspci -v (use pastebin)
[01:15] <biovore> richbayliss: what make are the 2 nics?
[01:15] <emily> cafuego, i tried that already and it gave me that error i mentioned above. then others have been saying to use slashes... i'm trying their suggestions now
[01:15] <_jason> Bradiiel: didn't  you set one up during the install?
[01:16] <Bradiiel> no i dont think so
[01:16] <richbayliss> 1 sec
[01:16] <savon> I dont get any sound in mplayer
[01:16] <roaet> anyone know how to configure nautilus?
[01:16] <_jason> Bradiiel: did you do a normal install?
[01:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell savon about mplayer
[01:16] <Bradiiel> yes
[01:16] <Madpilot> Bradiiel, there should have been a 'choose username/pw' section during the install...
[01:16] <cafuego> emily: Traditionally you need the slashes in smbmount, but not in smbclient.
[01:16] <Bradiiel> aw damn
[01:16] <soundray> savon, enter 'mplayer -ao help' and try the options it tells you.
[01:16] <Bradiiel> i installed like 2 months ago then left it
[01:16] <cafuego> emily: smbmount would need //hostname/sharename
[01:16] <Bradiiel> must have forgotten
[01:17] <_jason> Bradiiel: forgotten what you put?  reboot in recovery mode
[01:17] <Bradiiel> you gotta remember that i dont know anything about linux
[01:17] <soundray> Bradiiel, can you access it while we chat?
[01:17] <Bradiiel> yeah i am
[01:17] <emily> soundray, i tried yours with the \\\\host\ but it says 'timeout connecting to  128.193.4.140:445...' (isn't that the wrong kind of ip?)
[01:17] <Bradiiel> i am rebooting
[01:17] <_jason> Bradiiel: when you reboot just choose recovery mode from the list (press ESC if you don't see a list)
[01:17] <clever`rev> im trying to help a friend install the right video drive for his ubuntu
[01:18] <Bradiiel> k
[01:18] <dcode> can someone help me with mounting a mac-formatted hard disk
[01:18] <dcode> ??
[01:18] <clever`rev> i have ssh and X11 access to his pc
[01:18] <clever`rev> how do i see what video card he has?
[01:18] <biovore> clever`rev: lspci -v
[01:18] <emily> cafuego, i'm trying without slashes again, but capitalizing the -U
[01:18] <cafuego> emily: no, that's the right IP. mine times out too, so probably it's not using samba or is firewalled. (it better be for connections from the net as a whole)
[01:18] <Bradiiel> ok i'm in recovery mode
[01:19] <cafuego> clever`rev: lspci | grep VGA
[01:19] <emily> cafuego, i can connect to it from anywhere, even from home when I connect with my ibook... so there must be some kind of authentication
[01:19] <clever`rev> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 RF/SG AGP (prog-if 00 [VGA] )
[01:19] <_jason> anyone know a clever command for Bradiiel to get username of user 1000? or should he just look at /etc/passwd?
[01:19] <GTX> does ubuntu support direct admin?
[01:20] <redguy> _jason: how about grep 100 /etc/passwd ?
[01:20] <cafuego> wtf is direct admin?
[01:20] <clever`rev> http://clever.mine.nu/paste11.txt is most of the output of lspci
[01:20] <dcode> _jason: grep 1000 /etc/passwd
[01:20] <redguy> _jason: erm that would be 1000
[01:20] <cafuego> getent passwd 1000
[01:20] <_jason> Bradiiel: do that ^
[01:20] <bad_iNFO> if i leave linux running things start to get laggy
[01:20] <GTX> _jason, do you know if direct admin supports ubuntu ?
[01:20] <cafuego> mine is nicer
[01:20] <Bradiiel> ok
[01:20] <bad_iNFO> mouse cursor jumps
[01:20] <richbayliss> biovore - you getting my msg's
[01:20] <_jason> GTX: nope
[01:20] <bad_iNFO> only thing running htat i see is gdesklets
[01:20] <emily> soundray, do you have any other ideas...? it times out when I try with the slashes or without the slashes... so cafuego suggested it's not using samba... is there a way to find out what kind of service I should use?
[01:20] <bad_iNFO> anyne ahve any problems?
[01:21] <emily> like if it's not using samba?
[01:21] <redguy> _jason: or even grep 1000 /etc/passwd | cut -f 1 -d ":"
[01:21] <Bradiiel> k it says stuff
[01:21] <_jason> heh yeah
[01:21] <cafuego> emily: In OSX, do you connect to it as smb://hostname/ .. ?
[01:21] <soundray> emily, are you trying to mount a work share from home?
[01:21] <_jason> Bradiiel: what's the first thing it says before the :?
[01:21] <RedRose> how do i uninstall a kernel upgrade? is upgraded to vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386
[01:21] <cafuego> redguy: That would fail when using nis, for instance.
[01:21] <Nunquam_Fidelis> ok, how can I change the permissions of a folder so all users (not just root) can access it?
[01:21] <Bradiiel> i'm gonna reboot and try the user and pass
[01:21] <_jason> Bradiiel: you know the pass?
[01:22] <dcode> can someone help me mount an iPod in breezy?
[01:22] <Bradiiel> i think so
[01:22] <RedRose> and it gives me a GRUB error,. but when i do vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 Is works
[01:22] <_jason> Bradiiel: because you can change it now
[01:22] <redguy> cafuego: indeed, I can see the elegancy of your command
[01:22] <Bradiiel> i'll try this first, then if it doesn't work i will change it
[01:22] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: what folder is it?
[01:22] <emily> cafuego, no, it just asks for the server name, but then it says "connecting to afp://blah blah"
[01:22] <RedRose> how do i downgrade my kernel from vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 Is works
[01:22] <_jason> I think the cut one was more direct
[01:22] <Nunquam_Fidelis> hda1, I can't access it from Nautilus.
[01:22] <clever`rev> how do i install ati rage video card drivers on ubuntu?
[01:22] <emily> soundray, yes i'm trying to mount a school share from home
[01:23] <Bradiiel> oh i have another question
[01:23] <Nunquam_Fidelis> It says I don't have the permissions, nickrud
[01:23] <nickrud> !tell Nunquam_Fidelis about ntfs
[01:23] <cafuego> emily: afp is *appleshare*, not samba.
[01:23] <clever`rev> where would i dl it?
[01:23] <RedRose> how do i downgrade my kernel from vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-i386 to vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386?
[01:23] <Bradiiel> if i get a PCI wireless card for this computer, does unbuntu have drivers and stuff for that?
[01:23] <Nunquam_Fidelis> It's mounteed, but I can only access it through terminal at root.
[01:23] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: I'm assuming that's your windows partition, see the ubotu message
[01:23] <marlox> alo
[01:23] <soundray> emily, and the same thing works when you use a Mac from home?
[01:23] <emily> cafuego, ahh. frack me then huh. haha
[01:23] <clever`rev> -o uid=yourid
[01:23] <clever`rev> when mounting
[01:23] <marlox> alguien habla espaol aki
[01:23] <marlox> porfa
[01:23] <redguy> !es
[01:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:23] <clever`rev> or mount /... -o remount,uid=12345
[01:24] <richbayliss> anybody help me on the NIC problem??
[01:24] <emily> soundray, yes i can sucsessfully mount it from my ibook anywhere on the internet... but cafuego just informed me that afp is appleshare, not samba
[01:24] <richbayliss> biovore seems to have run away ;)
[01:24] <erUSUL> _jason,  cat /etc/passwd | awk -F : '{if ($3==1000) print $1}'
[01:24] <RedRose> how do i downgrade my kernel from vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-i386 to vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386?
[01:24] <cafuego> emily: There may or may not be appletalk support in Ubuntu.
[01:24] <Nunquam_Fidelis> nickrud, it's mounted, but I can only get to it from root via terminal...
[01:25] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: it's most likely a permission problem; that script should make it accessible by all
[01:25] <Nunquam_Fidelis> I didn't see anything about permissions in that link that was sent from ubotu.
[01:25] <_jason> erUSUL: :)
[01:25] <emily> thanks cafuego... i'll google for a while. thanks for your help... sorry i'm so inexperienced
[01:25] <cafuego> emily: That box seems to run FTP though, try that.
[01:25] <Nunquam_Fidelis> I ran the script.
[01:26] <richbayliss> erUSUL: any clues?
[01:26] <RedRose> how do i downgrade my kernel from vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-i386 to vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386?
[01:26] <soundray> emily, look into netatalk - it's an implementation of some Apple protocol stuff for unix.
[01:26] <cafuego> emily: The appletalk software for Linux is 'netatalk', but I'm pretty sure that only runs as server, not as client.
[01:26] <cfh_dev> Where can I find the lame executable?
[01:26] <cafuego> cfh_dev: /usr/bin/xchat is pretty lame.
[01:26] <isceald> bradiel, there's ubuntu support for wireless, BUT it a lot of people have trouble getting them to work. like me.
[01:26] <emily> cafuego, i could try ftp from the places menu, but again i don't know what to put in all the fields so it hasn't been able to work yet.
[01:26] <emily> and ok netatalk... ok
[01:27] <tjs> I'm running dapper with glx+compiz, totally rocks :) who needs OSX ;) anyway, I have no 'gnome-window-decorator' and I can't figure out where it should have come from. I'm using the dapper packages for everything.
[01:27] <erUSUL> richbayliss, have you posted the output of lspci -v? (in pastebin)
[01:27] <darius_> I have a new printer - the Epson Stylus Photo R300 series.  I see that it's detected via dmesg but it doesn't get detected by the printer manager.  Is there something I can do to get this printer detected or is there a way to find out which USB Printer # is mapped?
[01:27] <cfh_dev> cafuego: lame mp3 encoder
[01:27] <Bradiiel> ok
[01:27] <erUSUL> _jason, ;)
[01:27] <Bradiiel> umm jason
[01:27] <cafuego> emily: You only need FTP (with login), Server (hostname) and User name (login)
[01:27] <Madpilot> !tell darius_ about printers
[01:27] <Bradiiel> how do i reset the pass word from grep 1000 /etc/passwd
[01:27] <_jason> Bradiiel: ?
[01:27] <richbayliss> erUSUL: no - no need - both nic's are shown
[01:27] <savon> hey one big problem til
[01:27] <_jason> Bradiiel: what is the username you found?
[01:27] <Bradiiel> ummm
[01:27] <Nunquam_Fidelis> nickrud, the script just says no useable partitions found...
[01:27] <Bradiiel> i'm not sure
[01:27] <Bradiiel> haha
[01:27] <savon> The sound in mplayer is to low!
[01:27] <richbayliss> which is why i get confused
[01:27] <Bradiiel> i think it says 'Spare Computer,,,
[01:27] <savon> i  can hear it but not nore!
[01:27] <erUSUL> richbayliss, any clues in the dmesg?
[01:28] <soundray> emily, appletalk is enabled in ubuntu by default.
[01:28] <tjs> anyone running compiz on dapper?
[01:28] <dcode> Bradiiel: do "sudo passwd 'username'"
[01:28] <cafuego> soundray: client software
[01:28] <_jason> dcode: he's in recovery
[01:28] <dcode> okay...no sudo
[01:28] <_jason> Bradiiel: passwd 'Spare Computer'
[01:28] <soundray> cafuego, yeah...
[01:28] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: if you would, paste the output of mtab, cat /etc/fstab, and sudo fdisk -l to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:28] <savon> sudo is your friend
[01:28] <dcode> can you have spaces in a username?
[01:28] <_jason> I don't know
[01:29] <Bradiiel> arrr
[01:29] <cafuego> dcode: Yes, but.
[01:29] <Bradiiel> it says unknown user
[01:29] <nickrud> dcode: don't
[01:29] <emily> soundray, appletalk is enabled? so how do i use it?
[01:29] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Can someone assist me in getting NTFS setup, rather than sending me a link to a site that doesn't address my problem? ;-
[01:29] <Nunquam_Fidelis> ;-)
[01:29] <richbayliss> yeah
[01:29] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: if you would, paste the output of mtab, cat /etc/fstab, and sudo fdisk -l to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:29] <dcode> Bradiiel, what is the first entry on the line before the first :
[01:29] <Nunquam_Fidelis> ok
[01:29] <richbayliss> probe of the card failed - error -16
[01:29] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: do each command in a terminal
[01:29] <cafuego> Bradiiel: getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{print $1}'
[01:29] <cafuego> Bradiiel: That will print the username.
[01:29] <soundray> emily, I would have told you already if I knew... no luck with ftp so far?
[01:30] <Crilly> Ater using the ATi Linux driver installer to "install" my GFX card's driers, I was told to run 'sudo aticonfig' - however I get the following error: "aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:30] <Bradiiel> ok heres what it reads: 'spare:x:1000:1000:Spare Computer,,,:/home/spare:/bin/bash
[01:30] <Crilly> What am I to do?
[01:30] <savon> how do I get my wirelec networks card to worke?
[01:30] <dcode> okay...expanding on that
[01:30] <Crilly> Install the drivers manually?
[01:30] <_jason> cafuego: should have just done passwd ` getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{print $1}'`, ;)
[01:30] <dcode> passwd "getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{print $1}'
[01:30] <dcode> "
[01:30] <cafuego> dcode:  No, no.
[01:30] <_jason> Bradiiel: passwd spare
[01:30] <dcode> er...backticks
[01:30] <Bradiiel> oo
[01:30] <cafuego> dcode: The username is 'sapre'. So run 'passwd spare'
[01:30] <Bradiiel> cool
[01:31] <emily> soundray, it looks like i can ftp through nautilus... just going ftp://server and it prompts me for username and password. So I suppose that would work, although it's not ideal.
[01:31] <savon> !wireless
[01:31] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:31] <zipper> !nvidia
[01:31] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:31] <zipper> like, totally wicked awesome =)
[01:31] <Bradiiel> that worked jason
[01:31] <Bradiiel> thanks
[01:31] <nickrud> !botsnack
[01:31] <ubotu> :)
[01:31] <soundray> emily, there is also a way to "mount" ftp servers...
[01:31] <Bradiiel> now i'll see what i can screw up once i get in :)
[01:31] <nickrud> damn, I missed you earlier
[01:31] <_jason> Bradiiel: ha
[01:32] <Unity> xgl is shipped with the new ubuntu?
[01:32] <emily> soundray, but isn't ftp wide open? i'm not as familiar with security, but i haven't used ftp at all since I learned about ssh and scp
[01:32] <soundray> emily, the keyword is lufs, but again, I don't know how that works.
[01:32] <nickrud> !xgl
[01:32] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:32] <cafuego> soundray: gnome-vfs is a middle ground (though it ONLY works in gnome apps)
[01:32] <cafuego> xgl is busted atm, I think
[01:33] <dcode> alright...now...I need to mount an external mac-formatted volume...can someone help me
[01:33] <emily> soundray, thanks for your help. I'm still learninating and i'm glad when I learn new things. it's slow going.
[01:33] <Bradiiel> jason, if i have a wireless PCI card can ubuntu work with that
[01:33] <soundray> emily, can you access the stuff you need via ssh? Cause there is a sshfs.
[01:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell Bradiiel about wireless
[01:33] <Rob_Dude> Does Linux/Ubuntu have some sort of internal certificate store that I can manage somehow?
[01:33] <_jason> Bradiiel: check the link in your private message
[01:33] <Nitro88> hi all
[01:33] <Nitro88> can any advice me a good PHP Editor?
[01:33] <richbayliss> swapped it out for an SMC - see what happens
[01:33] <xnull> kate
[01:33] <_jason> Nitro88: vim?
[01:33] <Rob_Dude> I have a citrix client that I need to install to connect to my office's networks
[01:33] <Crilly> Can someone help me? I need to get this driver installed for better preformance, and I need to sort out my dual-head setup - Ubuntu/My Card is currently cloning my display onto both monitors. It's rather annoying.
[01:33] <emily> soundray, sshfs would mount it to my computer? and maintain that connection ?
[01:33] <zipper> Nitro88, i like quanta
[01:34] <biovore> _jason: vim.. hehe
[01:34] <Nunquam_Fidelis> nickrud, what is mtab?
[01:34] <Nunquam_Fidelis> I got the other two...
[01:34] <richbayliss> thing is - it worked in Centos
[01:34] <biovore> Nunquam_Fidelis: cat /etc/mtab
[01:34] <Nitro88> thx, now i try that two
[01:34] <Rob_Dude> I installed the client, but I can't run it because of a certificate error.  It says I've choosen not to trust the CA issuer
[01:34] <Rob_Dude> and I don't know how to fix that
[01:34] <Bradiiel> thanks jason
[01:34] <soundray> emily, essentially, yes.
[01:34] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: cat /etc/mtab (it's the list of currently mounted stuff)
[01:34] <soundray> emily, I've only played with it a bit, but it did work.
[01:34] <Bradiiel> jason: umm now that i put in my user name and password, what do i do
[01:35] <_jason> Bradiiel: are you in the desktop?
[01:35] <Bradiiel> it says 'spare@ubuntu:~$'
[01:35] <pianoboy3333> where would one learn about programming GTK
[01:35] <Bradiiel> no
[01:35] <Nitro88> zipper
[01:35] <emily> soundray, uwahh!!  this might be exactly what I need!
[01:35] <Nitro88> quanta is for KDE
[01:35] <Nitro88> i need an editor for Gnome
[01:35] <zipper> Nitro88, so?
[01:35] <_jason> Bradiiel: hrmm, what does 'apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i Installed' say?
[01:35] <Madpilot> Nitro88, try Bluefish or Screem - both Gnome-native
[01:35] <Nunquam_Fidelis> nickrud, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9392
[01:36] <Nitro88> Madpilot
[01:36] <zipper> Nitro88,  well, using gnome doesnt entirely exclude kde applications. Don't know any gnome editors, sorry.
[01:36] <Nitro88> with bluefish i can't edit php files...
[01:36] <Nitro88> i know zipper
[01:36] <biovore> Nitro88: php files are just text..
[01:36] <Bradiiel> jason it says Installed: (none)
[01:36] <biovore> Nitro88: use gedit or something
[01:36] <Nitro88> but i like all gnome-native program
[01:36] <Madpilot> Nitro88, really? I've done a bit of PHP work in Bluefish
[01:37] <_jason> Bradiiel: you want a desktop environment right?
[01:37] <Nitro88> yeah Madpilot
[01:37] <zipper> Nitro88, i understand... Can't help you then, sorry
[01:37] <keegan> Would anyone know how to get ALSA to do 5.1 Surround Sound?
[01:37] <Madpilot> Nitro88, but yeah, I know gedit does proper tag colouring for PHP as well
[01:37] <Lorenzod> Nitro88: PHP should work fine with bluefish.
[01:37] <Bradiiel> yes jason
[01:37] <Nitro88> thank zipper
[01:37] <Lorenzod> You could also give screem a try.
[01:37] <_jason> Bradiiel: issue the command 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[01:37] <newcomplexlife> ./spanish
[01:37] <richbayliss> ok
[01:37] <_jason> !es
[01:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:37] <richbayliss> this is weord
[01:37] <newcomplexlife> how i can conect to spanish server???
[01:37] <Nitro88> Lorenzod are you italian?
[01:38] <richbayliss> i have put an SMC nic in this box
[01:38] <zipper> "dapper".... Is that the same as SID is in debian?
[01:38] <_jason> newcomplexlife: you can get to the channel by doing: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:38] <newcomplexlife> tnxs
[01:38] <keegan> Would anyone know how to get ALSA to do 5.1 Surround Sound?
[01:38] <Lorenzod> Nitro88: actually, no, but I can see why you ask..
[01:38] <soundray> zipper, no, dapper will be released; sid never will.
[01:38] <richbayliss> and it hasnt found it in the network panel, but it has somehow moved my eth0 device, and it is now eth0
[01:38] <richbayliss> so
[01:38] <richbayliss> it is DEF supporteed
[01:38] <Nitro88> Lorenzod lol it's for the nickname
[01:38] <richbayliss> but why would my other card not be there
[01:39] <Bradiiel> jason it denied me
[01:39] <_jason> Bradiiel: what did it say?  did you use your user password?
[01:39] <zipper> soundray, ah, so it's the unstable release. I used to use debian, where the stable release were more or less useless for desktop use, is the same the case in unbuntu?
[01:39] <Bradiiel> 'E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[01:39] <Unity> here is a funny quote not meant to be offensive to ubuntu, just showing how misinformed some ppl are: "ubuntu is just debian with African sprinkles."
[01:39] <Lorenzod> Nitro88: my name is Lorenzo, but I'm Swedish (which is odd to most people)
[01:39] <Nitro88> Madpilot i need a program to create an entire PHP page...
[01:39] <soundray> zipper, not at all.
[01:39] <keegan> Would anyone know how to get ALSA to do 5.1 Surround Sound?
[01:39] <Bradiiel> then i ran that
[01:39] <_jason> Bradiiel: well run what it said I guess
[01:39] <Nitro88> Lorenzod eh eh :D
[01:39] <Bradiiel> and it said 'dpkg: requested operation requires superuser priviledge'
[01:39] <_jason> Bradiiel: put sudo in the front of it
[01:40] <soundray> zipper, part of the intention when ubuntu was founded was to solve that very problem you mention.
[01:40] <pianoboy3333> Is gnome in ubuntu powered by GTK+?
[01:40] <pianoboy3333> !GTK+
[01:40] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pianoboy3333
[01:40] <pianoboy3333> !GTK
[01:40] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:40] <Madpilot> Nitro88, either Bluefish or Screem should do that just fine
[01:40] <Unity> pianoboy3333: gnome is built over gtk
[01:40] <Madpilot> pianoboy3333, GTK2
[01:40] <zipper> soundray, ah, sweet. If i for some reason (Xgl.... drool) want to use dapper anyway, are there any major concerns i should know about?
[01:40] <Lorenzod> pianoboy3333: do you know of any Gnome that is not powered by Gtk+?
[01:40] <keegan> Would anyone know how to get ALSA to do 5.1 Surround Sound?
[01:41] <pianoboy3333> Lorenzod: sorry, I didn't know...
[01:41] <Unity> pianoboy3333: this is not only on ubuntu; this is on all gnome
[01:41] <Unity> =(
[01:41] <JewelerX> hi
[01:41] <Nunquam_Fidelis> nickrud, you saw the link, right?
[01:41] <emily> soundray just told me about sshfs, and i'm having trouble getting it to work.  I try to mount my remote share to a folder on my desktop, but then when i try to open it, i get an error saying that it can't be accessed, maybe it was deleted, and the folder itself disappears (and is visible only to root).... anyone have ideas?
[01:41] <Lorenzod> pianoboy3333: np
[01:41] <soundray> zipper, it can break at any minute. Don't use it on a machine that you depend on.
[01:41] <Nitro88> Madpilot with bluefish i can't do PHP pages, or i'm an inept :D
[01:41] <JewelerX> can anyone help me
[01:41] <isceald> does anyone know the ubuntu equivalent of debian systctl.conf?
[01:41] <JewelerX> how do u
[01:41] <JewelerX> watch dvds
[01:41] <JewelerX> on ubuntu
[01:41] <GTX> why does webmin not work in ubuntu? tried on 10 different servers
[01:41] <_jason> !dvd
[01:41] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:41] <crimsun> isceald: it's the same /etc/sysctl.conf
[01:41] <Madpilot> Nitro88, try Screem - I think all the PHP stuff I've done (not much) has been in that, not Bluefish
[01:41] <JewelerX> thanks man
[01:42] <Lorenzod> Nitro88: You *can* edit PHP with bluefish
[01:42] <GTX> !webmin
[01:42] <ubotu> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount for webmin instructions for Ubuntu. Webmin runs on https://localhost:10000
[01:42] <Madpilot> JewelerX, ease up on the Enter key, thanks
[01:42] <isceald> ah, typo, thanks
[01:42] <JewelerX> ok sorry, first time on irc
[01:42] <soundray> zipper, and join #ubuntu+1 for more advice.
[01:42] <zipper> soundray, okay, thanks
[01:42] <richbayliss> anyone!?
[01:42] <Nitro88> i've got NVU too, you think is better NVU or Screem?
[01:42] <Madpilot> JewelerX, no problem, but one line is better than lots - this is a busy channel
[01:42] <richbayliss> this is really anoying me
[01:43] <keegan> Would anyone know how to get ALSA to do 5.1 Surround Sound?
[01:43] <Madpilot> Nitro88, I prefer Screem, WYSIWYG apps annoy me
[01:43] <biovore> keegan: it depends if your sound card support 5.1 in linux
[01:43] <Nitro88> ok Madpilot
[01:43] <crimsun> keegan: using what app?
[01:43] <ojp> Hi
[01:43] <ojp> test only
[01:43] <ojp> exit
[01:43] <biovore> try /quit
[01:44] <keegan> Its a C-Media PCI CMI8738-MC6
[01:44] <keegan> I use Amarok and Beep to play my music
[01:44] <crimsun> keegan: depending on which app you use, you can choose the surround setting.
[01:44] <llODxCOll> i use rhythmbox for music
[01:44] <biovore> keegan: I think you might be screwed on the 5.1 front
[01:44] <soundray> emily, what mount command did you use?
[01:44] <tenco> test
[01:44] <crimsun> keegan: for b-m-p, you need to change the alsa device to plug:surround51 in the alsa output plugin configuration
[01:45] <Nitro88> Madpilot i never understood how to create a link button in HTML
[01:45] <Nitro88> how to do it?
[01:45] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: yes
[01:45] <keegan> I don't have a plug:surround51
[01:45] <keegan> Do you know where I can get it?
[01:46] <crimsun> keegan: type it in
[01:46] <Madpilot> Nitro88, join #html or #ubuntu-offtopic (I'm in both channels...)
[01:46] <GTX> why does webmin not work in ubuntu? tried on 10 different servers
[01:46] <foampeace> Nitro88: #html might know
[01:46] <Rob_Dude> How do I install a .cer file in Linux?
[01:47] <recon00> How can I play .swf (flash) files in ubuntu?\
[01:47] <keegan> I typed it in and only two speakers are working
[01:47] <nickrud> Nunquam_Fidelis: I did a sudo umount /dev/hda1 (after running the diskmounter script), then mount /dev/hda1 and was able to see the files
[01:47] <JewelerX> how do I get my .rar files to unzip?
[01:47] <biovore> recon00: install flash
[01:47] <oga> i'm having trouble rendering a website using firefox... i know it works w/ i-explorer, it's a php site so is there an ad on that i need to make it work w/ ubuntu
[01:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell JewelerX about rar
[01:48] <biovore> oga: probably using something active X on it
[01:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell recon00 about flash
[01:48] <oga> probably
[01:48] <oga> so fix = go to windows box?
[01:48] <soundray> emily, still here?
[01:48] <biovore> oga: witch means the web developer is some kinda of noob
[01:48] <biovore> oga: or wine and IE
[01:49] <oga> it's for a health / uni thing... they don't like the technology
[01:49] <Unity> biovore: witch is an ugly evil woman
[01:49] <biovore> Unity: rgr that
[01:49] <Bradiiel> jason i got stuck
[01:49] <_jason> Bradiiel: what happened?
[01:49] <biovore> oga: or get vmware and install windows on linux
[01:49] <Unity> biovore: what is rgr?
[01:49] <biovore> Unity: roger
[01:49] <nickrud> witch: a woman who thinks women have rights
[01:49] <pr3t0r1an0> Please help me! I need install mp3 in my PC
[01:49] <Bradiiel> 'E: unmet dependencies. try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages
[01:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell pr3t0r1an0 about mp3
[01:49] <Unity> nickrud: that's sexist
[01:50] <nickrud> Unity: no, that's reality
[01:50] <Unity> nickrud: what nation are you from?
[01:50] <Plug> Anyone know if Breezy can do XV output as a VMware guest?
[01:50] <_jason> Bradiiel: try that :), I don't think your install completed correctly
[01:50] <biovore> Plug: it should be able to
[01:50] <disastorm> hey
[01:50] <pr3t0r1an0> I can't lisent mp3
[01:50] <llODxCOll> ubotu: tell llODxCOll about mp3
[01:50] <nickrud> Unity: US, but, this is so off-topic 
[01:50] <disastorm> how many passes does memtest86 do?
[01:50] <richbayliss> can nobody help me
[01:50] <Bradiiel> i did it
[01:50] <_jason> pr3t0r1an0: read your private emssages from ubotu
[01:50] <Bradiiel> then i got error
[01:50] <isceald> anyone know how to fix "unable to reserve mem region"?
[01:50] <_jason> Bradiiel: what error
[01:50] <pr3t0r1an0> ok
[01:50] <richbayliss> i really need help with this problem
[01:50] <Plug> biovore: x11 works, xv doesn't.  (using the ubuntu image from vmware)
[01:50] <llODxCOll> !mp3
[01:50] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:50] <Unity> ubotu tell richbayliss about anyone
[01:51] <llODxCOll> !anyone
[01:51] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:51] <biovore> Plug: hmm.. what app? mplayer?
[01:51] <Plug> anything using gstreamer, or mplayer
[01:51] <biovore> Plug: on mplayer I have to pass the -xv flag
[01:51] <crimsun> isceald: do you have easyboot or quickboot enabled for that 600E?
[01:51] <disastorm> how many passes does memtest86 do?
[01:51] <crimsun> disastorm: 3 by default
[01:51] <biovore> the -vo xv flag I mean
[01:51] <llODxCOll> however many you let it
[01:51] <disastorm> ok thanks
[01:51] <Plug> biovore: mine defaults to -vo xv, but stops straight away if you try (after a half second of sound)
[01:52] <Plug> -vo x11 works, but won't fullscreen properly
[01:52] <disastorm> i got 2 errors on the 0th pass, but i didnt get any on the pass after that.  DOes that mean theres something wrong with it?
[01:52] <Bradiiel> e:sub-process
[01:52] <biovore> Plug: intressing..  I don't run linux on vmware that much
[01:52] <biovore> ussualy run windows on vmware
[01:52] <llODxCOll> !memtest
[01:52] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, llODxCOll
[01:52] <llODxCOll> stupid ubotu
[01:52] <Bradiiel> "/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code
[01:52] <soundray> disastorm, yes, it does.
[01:52] <ACU> Hi guys --- Do you know why K3B software (DVD and CD burning) soft is not aded by default to Ubuntu ---- it took me 2 months to find it ---
[01:52] <isceald> crimsun, i have quickboot enabled, should i disable it?
[01:52] <llODxCOll> Bradiiel: means something else is using /usr/bin/dpkg
[01:52] <disastorm> oh hey soundray
[01:53] <dyrne> Plug: guess you could always watch it in framebuffer ;p
[01:53] <richbayliss> I have a box with 2 NIC's in it. 1 SMC card, 1 Realtek. The ubuntu network panel only shows me the Realtek, but "lspci" shows me both. Dmesg contains no errors about the SMC card. "ifconfig -a" shows me only eth0 (the Realtek card).
[01:53] <disastorm> i remember u
[01:53] <nickrud> ACU: it's in kubuntu, not ubuntu
[01:53] <biovore> ACU: its in kubuntu be defaultr
[01:53] <_jason> ACU: it's in the repositories
[01:53] <crimsun> isceald: absolutely
[01:53] <Plug> I can play it in Windows, but i'm trying to be a bit nicer at my LUG meeting using vmware player & Linux :)
[01:53] <biovore> lolz
[01:53] <disastorm> i got a new psu and my computer stopped crashing but now my windows wont install and i get a cannot copy file error
[01:53] <savon> !ati
[01:53] <isceald> ok, sounds easy :)
[01:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:53] <disastorm> so i decided to run memtest
[01:53] <Bradiiel> i think i'm ready to give up on this
[01:53] <llODxCOll> !food
[01:53] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, llODxCOll
[01:53] <matsur> hi all, i have a realtek sound card w/ mixer. how do i get rid of this software mixer BS that only allows one program access to sound out at a time?
[01:53] <Plug> x11 doesn't support scaling.  need xv. :/
[01:54] <nickrud> !dmix
[01:54] <ubotu> it has been said that dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:54] <HammerBlade2020> !botsnack
[01:54] <ubotu> thanks hammerblade2020 :)
[01:54] <_jason> Bradiiel: something went wrong during the install, are you sure it completed?
[01:54] <Howitzer> Okay, i miss some KDE applications on this ubuntu box and i don't want to download them all again(slow internet), so i wondered if it's possible to add my kubuntu cd(5.10) to the repositories as like it was a normal ubuntu cd (and thus prompts you for the cd when trying to apt-get a package on the cd)
[01:54] <floyd_n_milan> i just installed Ubuntu, but the grub it installed refuses to start any of the OSs listed telling me, Unknown partition type 0x8e and i am certainly not booting from and LVM physical volume!
[01:54] <soundray> disastorm, good choice. Now you've found another source of error. Will you be able to get a refund/exchange for the memory, too?
[01:54] <biovore> Plug: when I deal with Multimedia stuff like video and audio I always have to build that stuff from scratch to get everything working with all the codecs.
[01:54] <llODxCOll> !botsnack
[01:54] <matsur> nickrud, thanks, will try
[01:54] <Bradiiel> i quit
[01:54] <Plug> hmmm.  codecs are working fine this time :)
[01:54] <Bradiiel> bye linux!
[01:54] <disastorm> no i had the memory for 2 years dont think  i can refund it
[01:54] <Plug> I could try upgrading the image to dapper
[01:54] <Bradiiel> thanks for your help jason
[01:54] <bimberi> Howitzer: Synaptic, Edit menu, Add CD-ROM
[01:54] <richbayliss> Unity: i did as the bot said
[01:54] <nickrud> matsur: it's not trivial, if you have problems, look for crimsun for specific help
[01:54] <HammerBlade2020> Bradiiel, don't give up
[01:55] <Howitzer> omfg
[01:55] <Howitzer> i feel so stupid now
[01:55] <Howitzer> ty
[01:55] <disastorm> so if i got 2 errors in memtest that means the memory is more than likely causing the problem preventing me from installing windows?
[01:55] <biovore> Plug: AAC in ubuntu mplayer and xine is lacking
[01:55] <_jason> Bradiiel: you should give it another try, my install went through smoothly.  It's worth it, trust me :)
[01:55] <llODxCOll> Bradiiel what exactly is your problem
[01:55] <Bradiiel> i dont have the disks anymore
[01:55] <Plug> sure, all i want is an xvid, which is ok. the input side is fine, the output is borked :)
[01:55] <llODxCOll> what
[01:55] <_jason> Bradiiel: burn one on a cd-rw
[01:55] <llODxCOll> !botsnack
[01:55] <ubotu> :)
[01:55] <Howitzer> hmm
[01:55] <biovore> Plug: you can always try dsl
[01:55] <biovore> sdl
[01:55] <Howitzer> bimberi, it still wants to download from the internet?
[01:55] <bimberi> Howitzer: np :)
[01:56] <soundray> disastorm, more than likely would be certain. There's never anything certain with memory errors. But it's not worth searching anywhere else before you've fixed them.
[01:56] <Rob_Dude> Can Linux read and write to NTFS partitions now, or just read?
[01:56] <Howitzer> i searched for k3b
[01:56] <Bradiiel> takes time to find that then burn it cuz i got slow connecion then i dont know how to install on top of what i already put in there
[01:56] <llODxCOll> Rob_Dude justs read
[01:56] <Rob_Dude> Cool
[01:56] <crimsun> matsur: your onboard sound is not capable of multiplexing streams, therefore you have to use a software solution. Breezy uses dmix by default, which is ALSA's library-level muxer.
[01:56] <dyrne> Rob_Dude: word is in april with dapper yes
[01:56] <HammerBlade2020> Rob_Dude, it can write, but it's not safe
[01:56] <biovore> Rob_Dude: It can write to ntfs, but not with ubuntu stock
[01:56] <disastorm> ok is there a way i can tell which memory stick is broken or do i have to test each one seperately?
[01:56] <bimberi> Howitzer: yes, if the packages have been updated they will come from the 'net
[01:56] <Howitzer> ack
[01:56] <Howitzer> can i undo that
[01:56] <bimberi> Howitzer: what package? kubuntu-desktop?
[01:56] <Howitzer> no
[01:57] <ACU> Thanks -- so Kubuntu is better ---- I am having a hellish of a time trying to connect to folders shared in windows (or MacOSX) servers ---- I use smb:// etc to connect and either I see the folders inside but it does not allow me to do anything --- or in other folders I cannot see the content ----- I need a simple solution (for my litttle baby brain )
[01:57] <__mikem> !kubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <soundray> disastorm, separately I'm afraid.
[01:57] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, __mikem
[01:57] <Howitzer> k3b, amorok,..
[01:57] <Rob_Dude> One more Q - Ubuntu found and mounted my windows partitions - but to access it I need to use 'sudo'.  What would I do to change that...chmod the whole thing?
[01:57] <Bradiiel> jason i will download the .iso again
[01:57] <_jason> Bradiiel: you could always order a free cd from shipit and wait until it arrives.  It takes a bit though, usually 6-8 weeks
[01:57] <pr3t0r1an0> por favor alguien habla espaol?
[01:57] <disastorm> ok
[01:57] <savon> !ati
[01:57] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:57] <__mikem> The way Kubuntu has kde configured is herendous
[01:57] <Plug> 'no adaptors present' in xvinfo
[01:57] <richbayliss> I have a box with 2 NIC's in it. 1 SMC card, 1 Realtek. The ubuntu network panel only shows me the Realtek, but "lspci" shows me both. Dmesg contains no errors about the SMC card. "ifconfig -a" shows me only eth0 (the Realtek card)
[01:57] <Bradiiel> is there anything i should do to the broken ubuntu
[01:57] <Howitzer> ack, can i undo this?, i download at 86kB/s :(
[01:57] <bimberi> Howitzer: you could try disabling the 'net repositories, update and retry
[01:57] <JewelerX> can someone tell me how u install airsnort on ubuntu???
[01:58] <Howitzer> hmm
[01:58] <bimberi> Howitzer: isn't there a cancel button?
[01:58] <Howitzer> good idea
[01:58] <dyrne> Rob_Dude: it mounted it wrong do sudo gedit /etc/fstab find the line for your win partition and change options column to umask=000,defaults
[01:58] <ACU> I got it installed it seem gorgeous (K3B)   http://www.k3b.org/
[01:58] <Rob_Dude> Thanks dyrne
[01:58] <_jason> Bradiiel: maybe someone here knows better than I do about those errors, you can put them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and link to them here and see if someone else can help with it
[01:58] <dyrne> Rob_Dude: on next reboot will mount ok
[01:58] <biovore> JewelerX: apt-get install airsnore
[01:58] <bimberi> Howitzer: you might have dependency issues, but you never know :)
[01:58] <floyd_n_milan> i just installed Ubuntu, but the grub it installed refuses to start any of the OSs listed telling me, Unknown partition type 0x8e and i am certainly not booting from and LVM physical volume! anyone?
[01:58] <Bradiiel> no thats ok
[01:58] <JewelerX> many thanks
[01:59] <Bradiiel> can i wipe the harddrive from where i am right now?
[01:59] <disastorm> also if i run memtest and i dont get errors does that mean theres nothing wrong with ram or does it sometimes take multiple runs to get errors
[01:59] <Plug> i'll try #vmware, thanks
[01:59] <gregg> hi. I just did an update with synaptic, first time for a month or so, and now my x server fails on startup. fonts seem to be the problem. any ideas?
[01:59] <JewelerX> is there a way to access ur window's partion files from ubuntu?
[01:59] <Howitzer> but bimberi, if amorok installs on kubuntu with only the cd, it must install now aswell right?
[01:59] <nima> has anyone heard of foresight linux?
[01:59] <pr3t0r1an0> epale chamos de pana necesito una mano
[01:59] <_jason> Bradiiel: just format it if you want to
[01:59] <dyrne> ubotu: tell JewelerX about ntfs
[01:59] <Bradiiel> and how do i do that
[01:59] <pr3t0r1an0> es mi primer dia usando linux y no entiendo casi nada hacerca de la configuracion
[01:59] <Bradiiel> is there a command
[01:59] <dyrne> JewelerX: also see my comment to Rob_Dude a few lines up
[01:59] <soundray> floyd_n_milan, maybe your hard disk is too new for your BIOS. See if you can switch LBA mode in the BIOS setup.
[01:59] <_jason> pr3t0r1an0: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:59] <Mabus06> What sort of non-malicious reason would you want to delete everything?
[02:00] <nima> do foresight linux ant ubuntu share the same drivers?
[02:00] <gregg> JewelerX mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[02:00] <_jason> Bradiiel: not that I know of, I would use a livecd and use gparted to do it
[02:00] <Bradiiel> i am reinstalling ubuntu
[02:00] <Bradiiel> ok too much work
[02:00] <bimberi> Howitzer: yes, it and all its dependencies should be on the kubuntu CD
[02:00] <__mikem> They should make a program that intersepts commands like rm -r ~ before they are actually executed
[02:00] <andrei> how do i install firefox
[02:00] <floyd_n_milan> soundray, grub installed on Gentoo and Fedora work perfectly fine
[02:00] <_jason> Bradiiel: when you reinstall there is an otion to wipe the drive iirc
[02:00] <Bradiiel> ok great
[02:00] <Bradiiel> thats easy enough
[02:00] <richbayliss> why cant anyone help out here?
[02:00] <andrei> how do i install firefox 1.5
[02:00] <richbayliss> is my problem sooooo  unique?
[02:01] <disastorm> just wondering, if i run memtest and i dont get errors does that mean theres nothing wrong with ram or does it sometimes take multiple runs to get errors
[02:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell JewelerX about mountwindows
[02:01] <crimsun> richbayliss: is that another way of asking why you're not getting personalised service for free?
[02:01] <__mikem> !firefox
[02:01] <Howitzer> okay
[02:01] <Howitzer> it works
[02:01] <dyrne> richbayliss: mp3 problem? see wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <jelyon> So how did I manage to download edubuntu from both the Kubuntu and Ubuntu sites?
[02:01] <Kezzerxir> Whats the command to install linux header files?
[02:01] <richbayliss> crimsun: definatly!! ;) I just though my problem would be easily solved
[02:01] <Biguns> richbayless: what do you need help with
[02:01] <ACU> Any insight of how to connect to folders shared in windows (or MacOSX) servers ---- I use smb:// etc to connect and either I see the folders inside but it does not allow me to do anything --- or in other folders I cannot see the content -----
[02:01] <Howitzer> thanks a lot bimberi !
[02:01] <richbayliss> Biguns: I have a box with 2 NIC's in it. 1 SMC card, 1 Realtek. The ubuntu network panel only shows me the Realtek, but "lspci" shows me both. Dmesg contains no errors about the SMC card. "ifconfig -a" shows me only eth0 (the Realtek card)
[02:01] <bimberi> Howitzer: yw :)
[02:01] <tonkar> hi! sorry, i have problems with a rar file, somebody could help me please :D
[02:02] <tonkar> ?
[02:02] <andrei> HEY
[02:02] <_jason> tonkar: what ``problems''?
[02:02] <andrei> HOW DO I INSTALL FIREFOX
[02:02] <crimsun> tonkar: meaning that you can't open them?
[02:02] <Bradiiel> ok i will be back here later when i have the .iso
[02:02] <soundray> disastorm, purists run memtest for a week before concluding their memory is okay. Me personally, I'm happy if there aren't any errors after an overnight run.
[02:02] <Bradiiel> bye
[02:02] <richbayliss> Biguns: i just want to have both NIC's working
[02:02] <_jason> andrei: drop the caps please, and ubuntu comes with firefox
[02:02] <andrei> i mean firefox 1.5
[02:02] <pr3t0r1an0> En espaol?
[02:02] <richbayliss> Biguns: I know that both cards are supported in linux
[02:02] <crimsun> !firefox1.5
[02:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:02] <Kezzerxir> Whats the command to install linux header files?
[02:02] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[02:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell andrei about ff1.5
[02:02] <_jason> heh
[02:02] <nickrud> arg
[02:02] <soundray> !es
[02:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:02] <cafuego> !es
[02:02] <tonkar> mmm ..... i have already downloaded the unrar-free file, an it launches me only failed errores
[02:03] <andrei> thanxxxxxxxxxxx
[02:03] <GTX> Guys im thinking of installing http://vhcs.net/new/modules/phpwiki/index.php/Quick%20Start , But is that the right guide i should be following  the apt-get one or not? :S
[02:03] <crimsun> tonkar: no, you need to install unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[02:03] <crimsun> !info unrar-nonfree
[02:03] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[02:03] <crimsun> !tell tonkar about repos
[02:03] <ACU> OK -- another question ---- xvidcap ---- seems cool -- but I cannot install it a hell of a time
[02:03] <tonkar> ? ... ok, but .... why? what is the problem with the free versin?
[02:03] <crimsun> tonkar: it doesn't handle the newer v3 rars
[02:03] <_jason> tonkar: it doesn't open the latest version of rar compression
[02:04] <Biguns> richbayliss: if you do an ifconfig do they both have ipaddress?
[02:04] <mainer> debian repos have been quite unstable lately,could someone advise me on ubuntu repos/pkgs,and their stability,please,thanks
[02:04] <nickrud> tonkar: it doesn't support the latest versions of rar
[02:04] <tonkar> ok .... thanks a lot! ;)
[02:04] <nickrud> late again 
[02:04] <tonkar> bye .. and thanks again
[02:04] <richbayliss> Biguns: no, the SMC card isnt there, only eth0 ( the Realtek one)
[02:04] <JewelerX> when i type in apt-get install airsnort, it give me "Could not open lock file/var/lib/apt/lists/lock -open (13 permission denied) E; Unable to lock the list directory
[02:04] <gregg> can anyone hlp with my xorg problem? I have only a command line login, and it kinda sucks
[02:04] <_jason> JewelerX: if you have synaptic open, close it
[02:04] <nickrud> JewelerX: you probably have synaptic open, or you did not use sudo
[02:05] <JewelerX> how do you use sudo?
[02:05] <Howitzer> sudo xxxxxxxxxx
[02:05] <Howitzer> :D
[02:05] <soundray> mainer, Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger is rock solid and fairly up to date.
[02:05] <nickrud> sudo apt-get airsnort
[02:05] <_jason> JewelerX: sudo apt-get install blah
[02:05] <JewelerX> ok thanks
[02:05] <IdleOne> !tell JewelerX  about sudo
[02:05] <nickrud> mumbles
[02:05] <Biguns> richbayless: I am going to try a few things on my computer I'll be back in a minute
[02:05] <Howitzer> heh
[02:06] <soundray> mainer, as for 6.04 Dapper Drake -- well, it will be released in April.
[02:06] <richbayliss> Biguns: thanks
[02:06] <disastorm> ah ok so once i get new ram i should like run a test on it overnight to make sure they are good or something?
[02:06] <mainer> soundray: thanks,might re0install,how about breezy??,any advice?
[02:06] <jelyon> I'm looking for anyone who's successfully finished an install of ubuntu on an oldworld powermac g3
[02:06] <Howitzer> disabling the internet repo's is quick 'n dirty, but it works :D
[02:06] <Howitzer> jelyon, i don't see why it wouldn't install
[02:06] <andrei> wheres the commmand prompt like where i type in stuff
[02:07] <irvs10tz> guys, need help here.. why is it when i play flash movies, sometimes i hear the audio and sometimes not....????? can somebody explain to me how to fix this problem???????????
[02:07] <JewelerX> its in terminal
[02:07] <Howitzer> andrei, Applications, Acessories
[02:07] <gregg> andrei - ctrl-alt-f1
[02:07] <soundray> andrei, Applications-Accessories-Terminal
[02:07] <IdleOne> !tell andrei  about cli
[02:07] <jelyon> Well, it did, but I'm stuck, after the initial install, at "installing packages."
[02:07] <Howitzer> !cli
[02:07] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[02:07] <JewelerX> hey, anyone knows what the password thing is when you type in sudo apt-get install airsnort??? i cant enter anything in
[02:07] <soundray> andrei, don't say we aren't responsive :)
[02:07] <IdleOne> points*
[02:07] <_jason> JewelerX: it's your user password, read the link ubotu sent you
[02:07] <andrei> thanx guys
[02:07] <soundray> JewelerX, you can, you just don't see it.
[02:08] <JewelerX> oh
[02:08] <aliesya_82> hi everybody
[02:08] <IdleOne> nickrud:  you didnt respond to the cli question :P
[02:09] <jason_> ok
[02:09] <jason_> i've got issues
[02:09] <jason_> lol
[02:09] <nickrud> hah. you were quick, why cry 
[02:09] <nickrud> me, I mean
[02:09] <IdleOne> hehe I wasnt
[02:09] <_jason> jason_: just ask your question
[02:09] <JewelerX> where do u put the airsnort install pakage?? it says E: Couldn't find package airsnort
[02:09] <Howitzer> man
[02:09] <jason_> my linux box is fine, unless i let it sit for about a day then the system lags
[02:09] <Howitzer> i love the power of ubuntu+kubuntu
[02:09] <IdleOne> !tell JewelerX  about repos
[02:09] <adub> does anyone know where to get a hold of a copy of gamera, it is aol software for linux
[02:10] <jason_> only major diffrence i see is i leave gdesklets loaded
[02:10] <_jason> !info airsnort
[02:10] <ubotu> airsnort: (WLAN sniffer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.7e-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 184 kB
[02:10] <irvs10tz> guys, need help here.. why is it when i play flash movies, sometimes i hear the audio and sometimes not....????? can somebody explain to me how to fix this problem???????????
[02:10] <Howitzer> !repositories
[02:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:10] <Biguns> richbayless: can you verify that the card was working prior to your Ubuntu install
[02:10] <Howitzer> IdleOne, !tell doesn't work, you know that? :D
[02:10] <_jason> JewelerX: enable universe ^
[02:10] <RemyLaptop> RemyLaptop
[02:10] <richbayliss> Biguns: yes - definalty
[02:10] <IdleOne> it doesnt?
[02:10] <Howitzer> no
[02:10] <Biguns> on windows are linux
[02:10] <Howitzer> i always type the actual command xD
[02:10] <nickrud> !tell Howitzer about restricte
[02:10] <Biguns> or linux
[02:10] <nickrud> !tell Howitzer about restricted
[02:11] <Howitzer> aaaaaaaaaaah
[02:11] <stevenj> anyone currently using dapper?
[02:11] <Howitzer> it works like thaaat
[02:11] <Howitzer> cool
[02:11] <nickrud> heh
[02:11] <_jason> stevenj: /join #ubuntu+1
[02:11] <gregg> am I not asking properly?? please, my xorg install is broken since a dist-update. I am pretty sure it is an easy fix, but not easy enough for me!
[02:11] <IdleOne> funny when I do it I get a msg from the bot saying it told the person about blah blah at wiki,bubububtnuttu.blah
[02:11] <irvs10tz> guys, need help here.. why is it when i play flash movies, sometimes i hear the audio and sometimes not....????? can somebody explain to me how to fix this problem???????????
[02:11] <RemyLaptop> !restricted
[02:11] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:11] <stevenj> _jason, what is that?
[02:11] <irvs10tz> please need help
[02:11] <_jason> stevenj: that's the dapper channel
[02:12] <stevenj> _jason, ok thanks
[02:12] <soundray> gregg, you could be a bit more precise than "is broken".
[02:12] <nickrud> gregg: what did you dist-upgrade from, and to?
[02:12] <richbayliss> Biguns: im new to IRC
[02:12] <Plouj> it seems that the default ubuntu kernel doesn't have SATA drivers compiled in, and I can't set my SATA controller to legacy mode, what can I do?
[02:12] <andrei> im on a mac, how do i get my mouse to work
[02:12] <richbayliss> Biguns: how do we have a dedicated chat window? so i dont loose any of your msgs
[02:12] <Plouj> erm, the problem is, kernel panics at boot
[02:12] <HelpMeWithACPI> im gunna reboot w/out acpi and see if it doesnt suck... later
[02:13] <gregg> sound - I did earlier :) but anyways, it fails on startup with a message about not being able to find the default font
[02:13] <soundray> Plouj, it does have SATA drivers, just not for every chipset that's out there.
[02:13] <Howitzer> huh
[02:13] <Howitzer> kinda funny
[02:13] <Plouj> soundray: ok, sata_nv isn't compiled in, I checked, its a module
[02:13] <IdleOne> andrei:  I have 2 macs I find they work best when unplugged and in the closet
[02:13] <soundray> Plouj, have you checked whether it is in initrd?
[02:13] <GTX> How do I remove a thing which i installed with apt-get and all the other packages it required ..
[02:13] <andrei> damn
[02:13] <Howitzer> the only thing out of --everything-- KDE has to offer, i only want amarok and k3b xD
[02:14] <atoponce> question
[02:14] <andrei> this used to be in the closet but i decided to put it to sum use
[02:14] <Howitzer> ask :-)
[02:14] <JewelerX> ok one last question, i installed it, but now how do i start/use it????
[02:14] <atoponce> has anyone been successful in distributed computing with ubuntu?
[02:14] <Plouj> soundray: I don't know what to check for, I tell the boot loader to load vmlinuz with only one param: root=/dev/sda7
[02:14] <_jason> GTX: you can't easily.  If you use aptitude instead I think it tracks that.  What you can do is remove the package and then use deborphan
[02:14] <Biguns> richbayless: I am in Japan (which means I am working now) send me a message in the Ubuntuforums and I will tell you what I find out tommorrow
[02:14] <GTX> _jason, deborphan?
[02:14] <GTX> :/
[02:14] <_jason> JewelerX: 'airsnort' in a terminal maybe?
[02:14] <Biguns> my name in the forums is biguns
[02:15] <JewelerX> so how do you use it???
[02:15] <csk89> hi all when i try to play from my cdrom i get this 'Unable to mount the selected volume.:
[02:15] <csk89> Warning: device /dev/hdc is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
[02:15] <csk89> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[02:15] <csk89> mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/cdrom0 busy
[02:15] <csk89> Error: could not execute pmount' can anyone help me with this?
[02:15] <richbayliss> Biguns: ok
[02:15] <andrei> ubuntu wont let me install sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[02:15] <_jason> csk89: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[02:15] <Plouj> soundray: just lik the installer instructed me to do
[02:15] <Howitzer> Can i use Evolution like KMail?(meaning: rss-feed, agenda, ..)
[02:15] <_jason> andrei: what does it say when you try
[02:15] <soundray> Plouj, I take it you've tried /dev/hda7 instead?
[02:15] <IdleOne> andrei:  for some reason macs work best with mac os and software..think it's hardcoded into the hardware or something...find an old pc for cheap you will be better off
[02:15] <Howitzer> andrei, why not?
[02:15] <atoponce> i would like to use beowulf to cluster my server and laptop
[02:15] <irvs10tz> guys, need help here.. why is it when i play flash movies, sometimes i hear the audio and sometimes not....????? can somebody explain to me how to fix this problem???????????
[02:15] <andrei> h/o lemme see
[02:15] <irvs10tz> please need help
[02:15] <atoponce> just curious if anyone has done it
[02:15] <jelyon> I'm still having issues, with a brand new install, of getting stuck in an endless loop of installing packages, mysql fails, boots to GUI login, then returns to installing packages. Initial install seems to have gone just fine.
[02:15] <_jason> irvs10tz: do you use esd?
[02:16] <Plouj> soundray: I haven't
[02:16] <gregg> Could not open default font "fixed" - was all OK before sys-update
[02:16] <Plouj> brb
[02:16] <dutch> crimsun, evening Daniel...how's it going ?
[02:16] <andrei> "couldnt open stat package"
[02:16] <amphi> gregg: apt-get install xbase-clients
[02:16] <soundray> Plouj, some SATA drivers use IDE device names (hdX), some use SCSI (sdX).
[02:17] <_jason> andrei: 'sudo apt-get update' then try again, if it still fails put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:17] <soundray> Plouj, I don't know which category sata_nv falls into. But it's worth a try.
[02:17] <csk89> jason: i have pasted it there
[02:17] <gregg> amphi - already the newest version
[02:18] <_jason> csk89: link the channel so that anyone that knows can try to help
[02:18] <JewelerX> when i run airsnort and try to start the scanning it says : /sbin/wlanctl-ng eth1 lnxreg_ifstate ifstate=enable > /dev/null     sh: /sbin/wlanctl-ng: no such file or directory      SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied
[02:18] <_jason> gregg: I think you have to dpkg-reconfigure some font package but I can't remember which one
[02:18] <csk89> jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9398
[02:18] <gregg> would help if you could :)
[02:19] <amphi> gregg: perhaps --reinstall
[02:19] <_jason> csk89: does the error persist after a reboot?
[02:19] <csk89> yeah
[02:19] <_jason> gregg: try xfonts-base, idk
[02:19] <Klick_> hey all, anyone here been able to get skype to work with alsa sound support so you can play music and run skype at the same time?
[02:19] <csk89> jason: yeah
[02:19] <irvs10tz> _jason: yes i use esd
[02:19] <jason_> anyone have experence with gdesklets?
[02:19] <cfh_dev> Is it possible to see what is the version of the package to be installed by apt-get?
[02:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell irvs10tz about flashesd
[02:19] <Plouj> soundray: no go, it doesn't find hda* either
[02:19] <irvs10tz> _jason: yes i use esd
[02:19] <basbryan> jason:a bit
[02:19] <soundray> cfh_dev, with apt-cache policy packagename
[02:19] <bimberi> cfh_dev: apt-cache policy <package>
[02:20] <cfh_dev> thanks!
[02:20] <_jason> csk89: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[02:20] <soundray> Plouj, does it actually panic with 'pivot_root failed' or similar?
[02:20] <Plouj> soundray: considering that no appropriate driver is loaded for my sata controller, no /dev/{h,s}d* is created
[02:20] <_jason> irvs10tz: one sec
[02:20] <Angel_Dex> Anyone know why im getting no sound outa my just installed sounblaster?
[02:20] <Plouj> soundray: no, it says VFS or error could not find root or something
[02:21] <Plouj> but it does panic
[02:21] <dejx> re
[02:21] <Plouj> I have the error here, one sec
[02:21] <crimsun> dutch: not bad, James, yourself?
[02:21] <csk89> jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9399
[02:21] <Plouj> soundray: http://plouj.no-ip.com/kubuntu3.jpg
[02:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell irvs10tz about flashesd
[02:22] <basbryan> ubotu: tell basbryan about flashesd
[02:22] <gregg> amphi: --reinstall no change.
[02:22] <dutch> crimsun, not too bad, retirement is nice, but 1040's are a pain :(
[02:22] <jelyon> a little help with the install?
[02:23] <amphi> gregg: perhaps xbase-fonts then
[02:23] <soundray> Plouj, does https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/8893 apply?
[02:23] <amphi> gregg: 'font fixed' is an alias
[02:23] <csk89> jason: dont worry figured it out thanks for the help anyway
[02:23] <_jason> csk89: what was it?
[02:23] <andrei> why is installing programs so complicated
[02:23] <Angel_Dex> anyone?
[02:23] <crimsun> dutch: hear, hear
[02:24] <Plouj> soundray: I'm running another Linux with sata_nv drivers, and no such errors occur during boot
[02:24] <basbryan> andrei: why do you think that?
[02:24] <jelyon> andrei: I dunno, but getting past "installing packages" is a beyotch.
[02:24] <_jason> gregg: dpkg-reconfigure didn't work?
[02:24] <soundray> Plouj, on the same box?
[02:24] <Plouj> yup
[02:24] <amphi> gregg: FWIW, I have 'fixed        -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1' in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts/alias
[02:24] <soundray> Plouj, which respective kernel versions?
[02:24] <gregg> _jason: no. neither did reinstall on either package :(
[02:24] <amphi> gregg: er, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias
[02:24] <stodge> Hey folks - how stable is Dapper Drake?
[02:25] <Plouj> soundray: the kernel that I have in Gentoo is 2.6.15
[02:25] <richbayliss> How do I add a new network card to Ubuntu
[02:25] <dejx> what's the name of that prog
[02:25] <soundray> Plouj, and you're on ubuntu breezy?
[02:25] <dejx> for setting nat ?
[02:25] <Plouj> kubuntu
[02:25] <dejx> firestarter..something..
[02:25] <soundray> Plouj, breezy?
[02:26] <Plouj> I think so
[02:26] <basbryan> stodge:  i've used dapper for 26 days without any serious issues...  should u take this q to #ubuntu+1
[02:26] <dimm6> hai
[02:26] <Plouj> 5.10
[02:26] <Plouj> kubuntu 5.10
[02:26] <Plouj> thats all I know!
[02:26] <csk89> jason: no i am sorry it didnt work out. any suggestions
[02:26] <soundray> Plouj, yes, that's breezy -- currently with kernel 2.6.12.
[02:26] <Plouj> ok
[02:26] <soundray> Plouj, is this a machine you depend on?
[02:26] <Plouj> I've had this system running fine since 2.6.11*
[02:26] <Plouj> soundray: its my only desktop, why?
[02:27] <Plouj> humm
[02:27] <soundray> Plouj, if it was non-essential, you could try Ubuntu 6.04 Dapper Drake, to be released in April.
[02:28] <soundray> Plouj, that comes with 2.6.15
[02:28] <Plouj> ok, but the question is will it have sata_nv compiled as a module or built-in
[02:28] <andrei> w00t i got azureus to run!
[02:28] <Plouj> and the reason I need *ubuntu is to test wine
[02:28] <Plouj> so, not that essential
[02:28] <IdleOne> wtg andrei
[02:28] <jelyon> I'm still having issues, with a brand new install, of getting stuck in an endless loop of installing packages, mysql fails, boots to GUI login, then returns to installing packages. Initial install seems to have gone just fine
[02:29] <bubba> booting w no acpi seems to aleviate my /var/log issue, but i still dont have a wifi working :(
[02:29] <andrei> how do i get aim to run
[02:29] <basbryan> plouj: get source from synaptic for your kernel version and look at the config for it...  i believe that will tell you...
[02:29] <dutch> crimsun, have a good one, gotta go...
[02:30] <Plouj> basbryan: tell me what?
[02:30] <andrei> i need aim for work
[02:30] <Howitzer> i don't want to sound like a puss, but i don't like my username in Ubuntu, can i change it somehow?
[02:30] <soundray> Plouj, all the SATA drivers are modules in Ubuntu. It doesn't mean that it cannot boot from SATA.
[02:30] <gregg> amphi: I have similar, but if i do find / -name *fixed* I see nothing that looks like a font - should I be worried about that?
[02:30] <vb_coder> andrei, are you new to using linux?
[02:30] <andrei> yes
[02:30] <basbryan> plouj: about sata as a module or not...
[02:30] <Plouj> basbryan: I already know
[02:30] <andrei> just installed an hour ago
[02:30] <vb_coder> andrei, use gaim instant messenger
[02:30] <andrei> oh
[02:30] <IdleOne> andrei:  sudo apt-get install gaim
[02:31] <soundray> Howitzer, I would recommend creating a new user with a better name, and moving the files over.
[02:31] <Howitzer> but
[02:31] <soundray> Howitzer, you can also edit /etc/passwd and rename your /home/user
[02:31] <dejx> what's the program for setting
[02:31] <dejx> dhcp
[02:31] <GeneM>  Anybody here a Linux guru.  I would like to move dir A to dir B overwriting files as necessary.  From dir A mv -f * /dirB doesn't do it.  This command won't work doing sudo or as root either.  All I get is "mv: cannot overwrite directory B" erros.
[02:31] <dejx> server
[02:31] <Plouj> soundray: so, where do I get the dapper drake?
[02:31] <vb_coder> andrei look in applications>internet
[02:31] <Howitzer> doesn't that involve changing rights to all applications?
[02:31] <bubba> dejx, dhclient
[02:31] <jelyon> how can I get past unmet dependencies with mysql when "installing programs" after first boot?
[02:31] <Plouj> soundray: for amd64
[02:31] <dejx> that's client?
[02:31] <dejx> i need setting daemon
[02:31] <Howitzer> jelyon, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:32] <bubba> oh, didnt notice
[02:32] <bubba> till
[02:32] <bubba> just
[02:32] <green_earz> richbayliss: see if you have etherconf on your apt source, command :  aptitude search etherconf    with etherconf you will be able to install the module for your network card
[02:32] <bubba> now
[02:32] <andrei> awesome gaim is working thanx
[02:32] <soundray> Plouj, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[02:32] <Howitzer> anyway
[02:32] <Howitzer> i'm going to bed
[02:32] <Howitzer> Seeya guys!
[02:32] <Plouj> soundray: I'm gonna just copy the kernel from gentoo for a while, try to recmopile kubuntu kernel, and see what happens
[02:33] <irvs10tz> _jason, in the page that you gave me.. the one in post #19, will i do it on terminal??????
[02:33] <bubba> dejx, dhcpd
[02:33] <joel> i finally got to boot from ubuntu install on a harddrive partition  :D:D i made a custom grub boot disk
[02:33] <joel> derived from the network install disk1
[02:33] <dejx> jea but apt-get wont install it:/
[02:33] <soundray> Plouj, on one (non-essential) breezy system, I was able to install just the dapper kernel.
[02:33] <Linux_whore> hello all
[02:33] <soundray> Plouj, but other people had problems with the same approach.
[02:33] <irvs10tz> _jason, in the page that you gave me.. the one in post #19, will i do it on terminal??????
[02:34] <joel> i am at the partitioner, it does not show me the partitions. i can create a new partition,,, but then it won't it errace my partition with the ubuntu cd installed
[02:34] <andrei> im a ipod linux veteran thou
[02:34] <Plouj> heh
[02:34] <Plouj> dapper seems like a cool idea
[02:35] <Plouj> it has xgl
[02:35] <Plouj> I wonder if it works with kde
[02:35] <vb_coder> what does dapper have thats new?
[02:35] <soundray> Plouj, vb_coder, the dapper channel is #ubuntu+1 :)
[02:35] <nickrud> Plouj: there's a compiz-kde thing
[02:35] <joel> Ubuntu installer sees my external usb cdrom drive.... is it posible to change the source drive from my harddrive to the cdrom!?!??!
[02:36] <fak3> hello
[02:36] <joel> it is installing from hda6, i want it go to cdrom!
[02:36] <nickrud> joel: are you saying that the ubuntu installer is trying to install from your usb drive, and not your cdrom?
[02:36] <Plouj> does ubuntu have a root user?
[02:37] <Plouj> heh
[02:37] <babo> hi
[02:37] <nickrud> !rootsudo
[02:37] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:37] <soundray> Plouj, yes, but it's disabled.
[02:37] <joel> nickrud, my unbuntu installer is comming from hda6. now i have to partition the drive. this will i think will delete my hda6 resulting no ubuntu "cdrom"
[02:37] <joel> so i have to change the source drive from hda6 to my cdrom
[02:37] <fak3> what about sudo su?
[02:37] <joel> in  a consol during install i can see the contents of my cdrom so its mounted
[02:37] <soundray> fak3, not recommended. Do sudo -i for the same effect.
[02:38] <dejx> how come that i cant download firestarter on PC
[02:38] <dejx> but on my laptop was downloading fine
[02:38] <dejx> but here is, no such packet
[02:38] <nickrud> joel: no, hda6 if very unlikely to be mistaken for a cdrom, there must be some info missing here
[02:38] <soundray> dejx, probably just a matter of running 'sudo apt-get update' on the PC.
[02:39] <nickrud> fak3: sudo -i is a better choice
[02:39] <dejx> soulreaper_, done that
[02:39] <babo> I'm having a problem with X .... I recently installed the new drivers for the nvidia geforce6 on my amd64 breezy badger. Now when I boot up it tells me that there is a config error and the the server caught a signal 11, it drops me back down to command line mode with Fatal Error 104 (connection reset by peer) ... can anyone help here ?
[02:39] <soundray> dejx, I'm soundray. Are the sources.list files the same on both?
[02:40] <joel> nickrud. i put the ubuntu cd on to hda6... i booted to it
[02:40] <dejx> Sorry, i was just sou and tab, wait, let me check
[02:40] <joel> nickrud. i do not have a cdrom drive. only external usb cdrom
[02:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell irvs10tz about cli
[02:41] <joel> nickrud. it *might* have changed since the install steps are "detect and mount cd rom drive" then "load installer components from cd"
[02:41] <nickrud> joel: I don't think that will work, having the install as hda6. Breezy iso's are not that smart
[02:42] <gnu2it2> what is a good serial comm program? i need to serial console to a sparc box
[02:42] <jelyon> why can't I get past the fscking Ubuntu configuration? "If you decide not to try again, bear in mind that some packages on your system will be in a broken state until you manually respove the problem" Please, god, YES! I don't WANT to try again!
[02:42] <bimberi> gnu2it2: minicom
[02:43] <IdleOne> jelyon:  have you tried re-installing?
[02:43] <jelyon> Oh yeah. WIth a brand new disk, even.
[02:43] <dejx> huh:/
[02:43] <dejx> i did copy both source.list
[02:43] <dejx> sources.list
[02:44] <joel> nickrud, so it is not posible to know if it is treating hda6 as a cdrom?
[02:45] <soundray> dejx, apt-get updaet
[02:45] <joel> nickrud, or that it detected the cdrom after and changed source place
[02:45] <soundray> *update
[02:45] <nickrud> joel: I wouldn't think so. I've seen people try that, and fail.
[02:45] <dejx> done that and tried again
[02:45] <dejx> same error
[02:45] <dejx> now i'm doing upgrade, dont know why,just doing it.
[02:45] <casimir> I'm having a spot of trouble with my nvidia drivers
[02:45] <ROFLCOPTER|`evoL> hi, i am running ubuntu and i have an intel embedded AGP8X video card and i can't find drivers for it can someone help me getting it to work right ?
[02:45] <fak3> i have already tried changing ubuntu session variables to use less resources, but my system is laggy becuase it only runs at 700Mhz.
[02:45] <joel> nickrud, how come it doesn't detect all my current partitions ?
[02:45] <casimir> I've read the howtos and I've set up nvidia drivers before
[02:45] <nickrud> joel: I did have to (once) change from cdrom0 to cdrom1 during an install; breezy *needs* a cdrom to install
[02:46] <fak3> can some one recommend another linux version
[02:46] <IdleOne> fak3:  my system only runs 233mhz
[02:46] <joel> nickrud. yes how did you change it?
[02:46] <_jason> casimir: have you seen the wiki pages?
[02:46] <casimir> for some reason I'm glxinfo says that direct rendering is off
[02:46] <nickrud> joel: I moved the cd from one cdrom carrier to another
[02:46] <joel> nickrud. i have /cdrom
[02:46] <IdleOne> fak3:  have you tried using xfce?
[02:46] <casimir> _jason:  I think so
[02:46] <fak3> no, what is that?
[02:47] <casimir> _jason:  I turned off dri and enabled glx
[02:47] <IdleOne> fak3:  it a lighter winodw manager . should speed up the pc for you
[02:47] <IdleOne> !xfce
[02:47] <ubotu> it has been said that xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[02:47] <casimir> _jason: The permissions on the /dev/nvidia devices might be the culprit
[02:47] <fak3> thank you
[02:47] <irvs10tz> _jason. i need help executing commands on the terminal, looks like i can't type one of the commands written on post #19 about the esd thing
[02:48] <nickrud> joel: you must have the cdrom in a bootable cdrom drive to install ubuntu. A minimum requirement.
[02:48] <babo> can anyone help with an X question ?
[02:48] <IdleOne> fak3:  give that a try before leaving ubuntu distro
[02:48] <joel> nickrud. i AM in the install without the cdrom
[02:48] <_jason> irvs10tz: you should follow the cli tutorial that ubotu sent you to get acquainted with the terminal
[02:48] <IdleOne> babo:  ask your question
[02:49] <fak3> yes i will, ... thank you
[02:49] <IdleOne> fak3:  np
[02:49] <nickrud> joel: but are you completing the install? Partial success, only?
[02:49] <mlalkaka> How do I know which kernel keycodes are not being used by looking at the output of dumpkeys? Is it the ones that say nothing or the ones that say "nul"?
[02:49] <babo> X won't load - it gives me a config error 104 connection reset by peer. I've recently installed the drivers for my gforce6 nvidia card. when I hit x -configure it tells me that there are no output drivers. When I startx it just tells me that it caught a fatal error signal 11
[02:50] <joel> nickrud. i am at the point of partioning
[02:50] <delmar> Hey everyone.  So I was looking at compiling a new kernel (2.6.15-4) on an ubuntu box, but I notice there are "ubuntu kernel patches"... so my question is simple.. is a stock 2.6.15-4 kernel going to work ok, or are there some ubuntu patches that need to be applied to the kernel to .. satisfy some compatability issues of any sort?  Any comments/feedback appreciated.
[02:50] <nickrud> hm
[02:50] <richbayliss> I have a box with 2 NIC's in it. 1 SMC card, 1 Realtek. The ubuntu network panel only shows me the Realtek, but "lspci" shows me both. Dmesg contains no errors about the SMC card. "ifconfig -a" shows me only eth0 (the Realtek card)
[02:50] <nickrud> joel: so, leave hda6 alone. Maybe you'll get there, and be able to call me a fool 
[02:50] <joel> nickrud. it says it mounted my usb cdrom. then load installer components from cd... i think this is all comes from hda6
[02:51] <joel> nickrud, this worries me because i do not see any disk partitions in the partitioner
[02:51] <definity> can some one tell me why i cant ping the computer that my wireless router is conected to i check the router seting and it looks ok
[02:51] <cafuego> 
[02:51] <definity> im on my laptop using wireless and it wont let me
[02:51] <delmar> in reality id rather not compile a new kernel but the headers package is not matching up and its stopping things from compiling right....
[02:51] <soundray> richbayliss, do you get any output from 'dmesg | grep eth1'? Put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you'd like us to have a look at it.
[02:52] <delmar> kernel package shows as 2.6.12.16.1, and headers package is 2.6.12-9.23
[02:52] <IdleOne> definity:  could be your router is set to not respond to ping request
[02:52] <jelyon> How do I get past the Ubuntu Configuration/Installing Packages screen on a ppc G3?
[02:52] <lucky> hi :)  I just put in a new video card and now X won't start, I had an old radeon in there and now i have a geforce 5400
[02:53] <IdleOne> jelyon:  are you using the ppc.iso?
[02:53] <nickrud> lucky: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should get you an X back
[02:53] <mclamb> hi, where can i get the engage dock??
[02:53] <soundray> lucky, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:53] <lucky> okay thanks
[02:53] <jelyon> I did. Been through the install, and this is the first reboot after that.
[02:53] <joel> lucky, edit your xorg.conf change it were it says driver=ati to driver=vesa
[02:53] <richbayliss> How do I add a network card in Breezy!?!?!
[02:53] <casimir> this is the output from  nvidia-glx-config enable http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9401
[02:54] <soundray> richbayliss, are you ignoring me?
[02:54] <richbayliss> Do I have to modify some config files?
[02:54] <dejx> well i have 5 eth cards
[02:54] <mlalkaka> lucky, change the driver to "nv" or to "nvidia". do you know how to do that?
[02:54] <Kezzerxir> wOOt
[02:54] <jelyon> IdleOne: I did. Been through the install, and this is the first reboot after that.
[02:54] <richbayliss> soundray: no - screensaver came on - missed your post
[02:54] <dejx> is there any way i can check out, witch is the witch?
[02:54] <dejx> which..
[02:54] <Kezzerxir> After 3 weeks I just got WIFI working on linux! Now whats there to do?
[02:54] <dejx> which is the which
[02:54] <richbayliss> soundray: will try it
[02:54] <delmar> Ok so once more.. my question is (knowing very little about ubuntu)... are there some kind of required ubuntu patches to be applied to a kernel to satisfy any kinda compatability issues, or will a stock kernel (ie 2.6.15-4 tarbal) compile work just fine? whats the deal with these "Ubuntu kernel patches" I see in the apt archives? anyone?
[02:55] <JRGC> I just updated from Hoary to Breezy and I get only the console? How can I get back to KDE?
[02:55] <richbayliss> soundray: nope - nothing
[02:55] <richbayliss> soundray: eth0 is shown in dmesg
[02:55] <_jason> casimir: are you using breezy?
[02:55] <richbayliss> soundray: card is an SMC and uses the "tulip" driver - this is actually loaded after a boot
[02:55] <IdleOne> jelyon:  after the installs copies the packages it asks you to reboot...and ejects the cd. it may take some time before it installs all the packages it copied
[02:56] <shadeofgrey> hey all
[02:56] <shadeofgrey> whats shaking
[02:56] <richbayliss> soundray: but no interface is in "ifconfig -a"
[02:56] <joel> nickrud.  sorta good news. if i select check cd integrity. it will go to my cdrom drive and not the hda6..... soooo it miiigggghhhttt have changed the source.....
[02:56] <casimir> _jason: dapper
[02:56] <_jason> casimir: try #ubuntu+1
[02:56] <nickrud> joel: heh
[02:56] <richbayliss> soundray: its like breezt doesnt want me to have more than 1 nic
[02:57] <joel> nickrud. now i have to wait till it checks integrity :S
[02:57] <richbayliss> soundray: if i remove the Realtek - the SMC still isnt available
[02:57] <theplateau> is there a grep option that i can use to restrict output
[02:57] <nickrud> joel: sometimes I'm right for an unknown reason 
[02:57] <mlalkaka> delmar, i'm not quite sure what the ubuntu patches package does. but my suggestion to you would be to compile the kernel source package from your apt repositories.
[02:57] <richbayliss> soundray: but in fedora/mandrake/suse - it has always worked
[02:57] <babo> Hi guys, I'm getting an configuration error, no output drivers, unknown chipset from my xserver. I recently installed an nvidia geforce6 card. Can anyone help me ?
[02:57] <theplateau> if i wanted to restrict Full from ls output coudl i be like ls|grep -restrict Full
[02:57] <Od1Mie2L> nickrud which japanese character is that?
[02:57] <theplateau> with a certain option
[02:58] <jelyon> IdleOne: No, I'm stuck in a loop, where it can't find some dependencies for mysql, gives me warnings about stuff being broken till I fix it, brings up the gui login screen, and then goes back to the Ubuntu Config/Installing Packages. I've been through this same thing with two different install disks. "There was a problem installing the selected software."
[02:58] <richbayliss> soundray: I know the cards are both fine, ive just moved from CentOS
[02:58] <bubba> grrr wifi card is pissing me up :( i actually had it working in i386, but I cant get it working now that ive changed to amd64 :(
[02:58] <soundray> richbayliss, have you looked at options to pass the tulip driver?
[02:58] <richbayliss> soundray: where they were both working
[02:58] <nickrud> Od1Mie2L: U+30C5 Katakana letter du
[02:58] <richbayliss> soundray: no, please explain
[02:58] <Od1Mie2L> nickrud domo :-)
[02:58] <richbayliss> soundray: do you mean IRQ and IO settings??
[02:58] <mlalkaka> delmar, also, there are articles on the ubuntu wiki (wiki.ubuntu.com) about this. i would check that out.
[02:59] <IdleOne> jelyon:  then I think you have a bad iso/disc going on ..try downloading and burning again
[02:59] <delmar> mlalkaka, ok cool thanks man
[02:59] <Olin> Man aMSN is so ugly.
[02:59] <soundray> richbayliss, yes. Some drivers take them as options as in
[02:59] <Hi^gh^Life> does anyone know how i could get the nforce 410 board working under linux?
[02:59] <mlalkaka> delmar, np :)
[02:59] <richbayliss> hmmm
[02:59] <nickrud> Od1Mie2L: I stole it from someone else, mind you
[02:59] <IdleOne> jelyon:  use a different mirror
[02:59] <floppyears> hi
[02:59] <soundray> richbayliss, modprobe tulip io=0x300 or something like that.
[02:59] <nickrud> hi IIIears
[02:59] <floppyears> how can I tell whether I have ext3 enabled with user_xattr in the kernel ?
[02:59] <soundray> richbayliss, sorry, s/modprobe/insmod/
[02:59] <Od1Mie2L> nickrud do you just copy/paste that every time, or enter it by unicode number?
[03:00] <richbayliss> soundray: modprobe tulip <-- this gives me no errors
[03:00] <mlalkaka> How do I know which kernel keycodes are not being used by looking at the output of dumpkeys? Is it the ones that say nothing or the ones that say "nul"?
[03:00] <delmar> mlalkaka, im more a standard debian sorta deal... mate of mine asked me to look at his issues... first thing I wanna do is get a working kernel with matchin headers... this ubuntu thing is a little bit foreign to me but.. think i might install it on a box here for a play.
[03:00] <richbayliss> soundray: i will try with IO= option
[03:00] <jelyon> Been there done that. This is the second disk. Thanks though. Too frustrated to mess with this anymore.
[03:00] <soundray> richbayliss, hold on...
[03:00] <soundray> richbayliss, you should really check what options tulip will accept.
[03:00] <Angel_Dex> How do i make gaim use Alsa?
[03:00] <nickrud> Od1Mie2L: in xchat, settings->advanced->auto replace
[03:01] <_jason> Angel_Dex: google for the gaim FAQ, it explains it
[03:01] <Od1Mie2L> nickrud cool!
[03:01] <HammerBlade2020> Angel_Dex, in the sound prefs their is a list.
[03:01] <Angel_Dex> HammerBlade2020 alsa isnt in the list
[03:01] <IdleOne> Angel_Dex:  tell gaim if it doesnt play nice it cant have any desert
[03:01] <mlalkaka> delmar, i'm not sure why you're having problems with the headers. i've used them to compile quite a few things with no problems.
[03:01] <richbayliss> soundray: ok, i have never had to pass options before
[03:01] <soundray> richbayliss, but I must admit I'm dumbfounded by your problem.
[03:01] <richbayliss> soundray: me too
[03:01] <Hi^gh^Life> anyone know how to get the nforce410 board working?
[03:01] <Angel_Dex> IdleOne it yelled at me and locked itself in the room tho TT_TT
[03:01] <JRGC> How can I make the console to use another resolution?
[03:01] <nickrud> Od1Mie2L:  I replaced : ) with that character
[03:01] <HammerBlade2020> Angel_Dex, i don't know then ..
[03:01] <richbayliss> soundray: is there something in the bootup of ubuntu that limiti how many NIC's it finds?!?
[03:01] <JRGC> I mean the console without the X server.
[03:02] <definity_> soz got dc there
[03:02] <soundray> richbayliss, I would try black magic next, like swapping the PCI slots or using empty ones if you have any.
[03:02] <Angel_Dex> HammerBlade2020 there is a command selection what file would i use to make it use alsa
[03:02] <richbayliss> soundray: already done that
[03:02] <soundray> richbayliss, no, there definitely isn't.
[03:02] <soundray> richbayliss, oh.
[03:02] <richbayliss> soundray: first thing i tried
[03:02] <HammerBlade2020> Angel_Dex, i don't know.
[03:02] <soundray> richbayliss, BIOS setup?
[03:02] <_jason> !gaimalsa is http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q24
[03:02] <ubotu> _jason: okay
[03:02] <richbayliss> soundray: i even tried ANOTHER nic - exaclty the same as the Realtek
[03:02] <Angel_Dex> HammerBlade2020 kk
[03:03] <HammerBlade2020> Angel_Dex, just set it to automatic
[03:03] <richbayliss> soundray: and that wasnt found, it gave me a probe error in the dmsg
[03:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Angel_Dex about gaimalsa
[03:03] <_jason> :)
[03:03] <Angel_Dex> !gaim alsa
[03:03] <ubotu> Angel_Dex: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:03] <Angel_Dex> Harumpf!
[03:03] <Angel_Dex> XD
[03:03] <soundray> richbayliss, weird. Can you try a different kernel?
[03:03] <_jason> Angel_Dex: no space, check your private messages
[03:03] <Angel_Dex> _jason did thanks
[03:03] <richbayliss> soundray: so, 2 realteks only shokws the first one, AND 1 realtek/1 SMC shows only the realtek
[03:04] <HammerBlade2020> when you start talkin i need a prozac
[03:04] <richbayliss> soundray: Ive done an update, so im running latest kernel for K7 from APT
[03:04] <richbayliss> soundray: so i could revert back to the kernel which came from DVD
[03:04] <delmar> mlalkaka, ok i would rather not compile a new kernel if i can avoid it.. .but... i dont know what else to do .. things wont compile because thee is a mismatch... ie. vmware.
[03:04] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud, :-)
[03:05] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~ does this make your text red?
[03:05] <IdleOne> HammerBlade2020:  yes
[03:05] <nickrud> HammerBlade2020: but of course
[03:05] <mlalkaka> delmar, where are the kernel headers from?
[03:05] <HammerBlade2020> i just wanted to switch to ~
[03:05] <delmar> mlalkaka, kernel package is 2.6.12.16.1 and headers is 2.6.12-9.23...
[03:05] <HammerBlade2020> :-) thanks
[03:05] <soundray> richbayliss, if I was in your place, I'd probably try 2.6.15, but it's not generally recommended.
[03:05] <LinuxJones> HammerBlade2020: why not add a few more digits to make your name even longer :)
[03:05] <delmar> mlalkaka, from apt sources I guess. I didn't add them.
[03:05] <HammerBlade2020> LinuxJones~ hmm, i've always used this nick :-P
[03:05] <richbayliss> soundray: im trying the kernel that was initially installed with breezy
[03:06] <nickrud> nah, he's a few years to go yet
[03:06] <delmar> mlalkaka, looking at the archives.. thats all thats available for 2.6.12
[03:06] <mlalkaka> delmar, can you tell me the names of the kernel package and the kernel headers package?
[03:06] <delmar> mlalkaka, what kernel have u got from apt sources?
[03:06] <green_earz> richbayliss:  the link my be of help to check out what the module name  is for the network card   http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[03:06] <fatdave> i have a generic question.  if anyone can help me or point me in a direction I would appreciate it.  I'm having trouble getting my gamepad working with the fceu nes emulator.  Ubuntu recognized my gamepad, just not fceu.
[03:06] <HammerBlade2020> Linux 2.6.12-10-686-smp [i686/3.00GHz/SMP] 
[03:06] <HammerBlade2020> hm that's interesting
[03:07] <mlalkaka> delmar, i have 2.6.12-10-686 running.
[03:07] <soundray> green_earz, richbayliss is past that stage...
[03:07] <Angel_Dex> _jason Um I switched it to alsa but its still using ESD I think cuz when i turn sound system at startup off it turned my gaim sounds off
[03:07] <nickrud> HammerBlade2020: I can give you a tax write off it you ship me that machine ...
[03:07] <richbayliss> soundray: ok - older kernel gives no joy
[03:07] <green_earz> ok
[03:07] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~ hmm that's okay ;-P
[03:07] <_jason> Angel_Dex: ?
[03:07] <delmar> mlalkaka, oh yeah sorry .. wrong thing.. ok here we go... linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 (2.6.12-9.23) and linux-headers-2.6.12-9 (2.6.12-9.23)... so thats wierd.. thats the matching  package... so the ubuntu kernel-image and headers packages are NOT a match at all.
[03:07] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~ why are you a charitable orginization ?
[03:07] <_jason> Angel_Dex: restart gaim
[03:07] <lucky> ok, i got X to work, but whenever i log into a gnome, kde or fluxbox session it immediately quits and takes me right back to KDm's log in screen
[03:07] <nickrud> oh well
[03:07] <Angel_Dex> _jason Idk TT_TT nothing AT ALL is solving my problems
[03:08] <nickrud> HammerBlade2020: I'm not, but I work for one
[03:08] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~ ahh i see
[03:08] <richbayliss> soundray: the card is an SMC en1216
[03:08] <mlalkaka> delmar, i think i know what the problem is. can you check which kernel image and kernel header packages are installed. the new kernels have the name linux-image and linux-headers, kernel-image and kernel-headers
[03:08] <nickrud> but if wishes were fishes
[03:08] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~~ some how i think you'd keep it for your self
[03:08] <mlalkaka> delmar, nvm. you already found it\
[03:08] <lucky> does anyone have any idea why it quits like that?
[03:08] <soundray> richbayliss, well, maybe you should consider green_earz's suggestion.
[03:09] <delmar> mlalkaka, right. so those are the matching packages....
[03:09] <nickrud> HammerBlade2020: no, I have just the place for it: My boss, who's still on a celeron 466
[03:09] <delmar> mlalkaka, but they aparantly are not. things wont compile...
[03:09] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~~ i could send you an AMD 700MHZ :-P
[03:09] <mlalkaka> delmar, yes. the kernel-image and kernel-headers packages are there simply for backwards compatibility or something.
[03:09] <Angel_Dex> _jason NVM! lol it worked
[03:09] <soundray> richbayliss, maybe the tulip driver isn't the best one for your card. If that's the case, you should blacklist it in hotplug.
[03:09] <nickrud> HammerBlade2020: pm me, I'll give you an address 
[03:09] <richbayliss> soundray: done green_earz's suggestion - all supported
[03:09] <dejx> hehe
[03:09] <mlalkaka> delmar, even with the linux-image and linux-headers packages?
[03:09] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~~ you'd have to pay for shipping :-P
[03:09] <dejx> i fixed it.
[03:09] <Angel_Dex> _jason many thanks
[03:10] <richbayliss> soundray: tulip driver is listed in the result from the HCL checker
[03:10] <_jason> Angel_Dex: yw
[03:10] <delmar> mlalkaka, yep. thats whats installed and things wont work right.. sell ill get some output.
[03:10] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~~ which would probably cost more then the machine is worth
[03:10] <nickrud> HammerBlade2020: that goes against all non-profit principles
[03:10] <richbayliss> green_earz: thx - all the HW says its supported
[03:10] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~~ oh well then :-P
[03:10] <Linux_whor1> how many of these get sold? http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695
[03:10] <soundray> richbayliss, is tulip also what CentOS loaded?
[03:10] <nickrud> HammerBlade2020: just give it to someone who can use it, I'm sure there's someone within 5 blocks
[03:10] <matsur> nickrud, finally got alsa working right. thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[03:11] <lucky> now i've got X11 working again but whenever i try to log into gnome, kde or fluxbox the screen goes black, then i get a blank screen with a clock cursor then it exits and takes me back to KDM
[03:11] <richbayliss> soundray: yes - i belive so
[03:11] <nickrud> matsur: I'm glad, but don't remember 
[03:11] <dejx> just one little question,
[03:11] <soundray> richbayliss, I've got to go. Sorry I couldn't help.
[03:11] <matsur> it was about an hour ago ;)
[03:11] <dejx> how do i NOT run x server at boot?
[03:11] <richbayliss> soundray: no problem - thanks anyway
[03:11] <HammerBlade2020> nickrud~~ good idea.
[03:12] <green_earz> richbayliss: is the drive name the same as you are modprobing ? for the network card just check to see
[03:12] <basbryan> richbayliss: have u googled for "multi-homed machines" and "linux"?
[03:12] <richbayliss> green_earz: yes
[03:12] <HammerBlade2020> the
[03:12] <HammerBlade2020> that's handy
[03:12] <richbayliss> basbryan: i have googled for anything about networks and linux
[03:13] <dejx> and where's rc.local file in ubuntu ?
[03:13] <HammerBlade2020> auto replace t e h with the
[03:13] <richbayliss> I am going to see what happens in the installer
[03:13] <gqed76> is there an easy way to install winxp on a HD that has ubuntu taking up the whole thing
[03:13] <richbayliss> green_earz: i belive the installed asks about network cards!?
[03:13] <mlalkaka> delmar, what architecture are you using?
[03:13] <basbryan> richbayliss: your problem sounds familiar to me...  something to do with multi-homed
[03:14] <IdleOne> !dualboot
[03:14] <ubotu> I guess dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[03:14] <delmar> mlalkaka, ok now the truth comes out.. my friends description of the problem was not accurate.. my first problem is that the system is trying to use gcc4, when the kernel was compiled with 3.4, so ill change it back to the older compiler and see how things proceed.
[03:15] <green_earz> richbayliss: do you have the live ubuntu cd if so boot the machine with it and look if the card as been seen : ifconfig
[03:15] <nickrud> dejx: there isn't one; the closest is /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:15] <basbryan> green_earz: good call
[03:15] <odla> gqed76: you need to resize ubuntu with a live cd
[03:15] <definity_> how coem i cant ping my pc that the router is cone
[03:15] <richbayliss> green_earz: i do - i have booted from DVD
[03:15] <definity_> ected to
[03:15] <definity_> from my wireless laptop
[03:16] <gqed76> that wiki assumes i laready have xp on..i dont
[03:16] <mlalkaka> delmar, oh. i see. well you don't need to uninstall gcc4. you can install gcc 4 and gcc 3.4 concurrently
[03:16] <gqed76> i have ubuntu on my entire HD currently
[03:17] <HammerBlade2020> gqed76~~ it's better to install windows first
[03:17] <richbayliss> green_earz: ok
[03:17] <green_earz> richbayliss: np
[03:17] <IdleOne> gqed76:  the wiki assumes you do because it is the best and easiest way to do it
[03:17] <madd_matt> I'm having issues with the ubuntu installer.  I get a grub error 17 when trying to boot ubuntu, and a different error when trying to load Windows.  I did change where to install grub to during the install, installed to MBR of second disk - (hd1) - installing to (hd0) is -not- an option.
[03:17] <richbayliss> green_earz: i have run the installer, and the network detection step seems to only find 1 card
[03:17] <gqed76> i know,..but it isnt lol
[03:17] <gqed76> i so dont want to format again lol
[03:18] <delmar> mlalkaka, yes. im just changing the symlinks.
[03:18] <Angel_Dex> me again!
[03:18] <nickrud> madd_matt: why is not installing to hd0 not an option?
[03:18] <odla> gqed76: you can resize ubuntu, install xp, then reinstall grub
[03:18] <HammerBlade2020> gqed76@ you won't have to
[03:18] <Angel_Dex> ^o^
[03:18] <nickrud> madd_matt: I mean, installing grub to hd0's mbr not an option
[03:18] <Angel_Dex> anyone have doom or the fake doom it is? installed from the repos?
[03:18] <madd_matt> nickrud, i've got bootloaders set up the way i want.  Its going on (hd1)
[03:18] <richbayliss> green_earz: what is odd, is that both cards were detected during the CentOS install
[03:19] <gqed76> ok...ive had bad luck with grub reinstalls...should i just launch the ubuntu install and then skip down to the portion it installs grub..or can i do a command line from boot:
[03:19] <green_earz> richbayliss: run a live ubuntu cd and see if it will see the card
[03:19] <richbayliss> green_earz: ive removed the Reltek card (def working) and im booting live with just the SMC in
[03:19] <nickrud> madd_matt: then, I'd think you have to set up the hda mbr's boot loaders to point to hd1 somehow. Obviously you're not using grub then
[03:20] <madd_matt> I can get hd1 to load using my BIOX
[03:20] <madd_matt> *BIOS
[03:20] <logical_mark> Hey where can I download the latest beta of Dapper?
[03:20] <richbayliss> green_earz: maybe, while we wait, this might help
[03:20] <madd_matt> i know what i'm doing is well within the range of Grub's capabilities
[03:20] <IdleOne> !flight4
[03:20] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[03:20] <madd_matt> I just think the ubuntu installer is screwy.
[03:20] <richbayliss> green_earz: when i put 2 realteks in, it only finds 1
[03:21] <richbayliss> green_earz: and i know that finds the first one on the PCI bus
[03:21] <nickrud> madd_matt: do an expert install: you can control what grub does then, or even use lilo if you want.
[03:21] <richbayliss> green_earz: cos i swapped em, and my router gave me a diff IP
[03:21] <lucky> hi, does anyone have any suggestions?
[03:21] <madd_matt> nickrud, i didn't see an option to expert install.  Anyways i'm going to play with the grub command line, i'll report back
[03:21] <bubba> !clue
[03:21] <ubotu> it has been said that clue is the ability to just 'get it' without unnecessary extended explanation...
[03:21] <JayNiu> hi there
[03:21] <richbayliss> green_earz: ok - livecd says- no ethernet card detected
[03:22] <Kezzerxir> How do u delete a dir from command line?
[03:22] <richbayliss> green_earz: ill put both Realtek back in, and try liveCD again
[03:22] <nickrud> lucky: sure: 6 21 12 5 9 42 23 on the lottery
[03:22] <green_earz> richbayliss: ok
[03:22] <lucky> nickrud: i meant for my problem
[03:22] <JayNiu> I have a question. Will computer that has a 500mhz celeron processor, 128mb of ram, and 5.6gb of ram be able to run ubuntu?
[03:22] <IdleOne> lmfao what problem?
[03:22] <Angel_Dex> No one has doom legacy installed?
[03:23] <lucky> IdleOne: ...the one i outlined above ?
[03:23] <lucky> scroll up
[03:23] <HammerBlade2020> JayNiu~ you mean 5.6gb HD
[03:23] <Kezzerxir> How do u delete a dir from command line?
[03:23] <richbayliss> green_earz: booting......
[03:23] <HammerBlade2020> Kezzerxir~ rm -r
[03:23] <nickrud> lucky: if you could post a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log from immediately after an X failure?
[03:23] <dejx> sdfa
[03:23] <JayNiu> Hammer - hehe yes
[03:23] <lakcaj> rm path/to/dir -rfv
[03:23] <JayNiu> 56gb hd
[03:23] <richbayliss> green_earz: cards in slot 4 + 5
[03:23] <JayNiu> wait
[03:23] <lucky> nickrud: X is fine, its KDM
[03:23] <JayNiu> 5.6gb hd
[03:23] <HammerBlade2020> JayNiu~ yes it will
[03:23] <Kezzerxir> Thank you
[03:23] <JayNiu> will it be slow as heck
[03:23] <lucky> nickrud: or something, because it quits and returns me to KDM
[03:23] <Angel_Dex> lsdldoom: symbol lookup error: lsdldoom: undefined symbol: open_music
[03:23] <richbayliss> green_earz: no cable connected for now
[03:23] <HammerBlade2020> JayNiu~ it will be fine, even better if you use xfce or fluxbox instead of gnome
[03:24] <nickrud> lucky: you said you start, and drop back to kde; that's the first place I'd look; additionally, ~/.xsession-errors often has something germaine
[03:24] <JayNiu> hammerblade2020 - will it be able to perform otf encryption with true crypt?
[03:24] <Angel_Dex> what does that error mean?
[03:24] <mlalkaka> delmar, so that will probably solve the problem. if not, check that linux-headers-2.6.12-9 and linux-headers-2.6.12-9-<arch> (where are is the computer architecture) are installed. it's possible that only one is installed; you probably need both.
[03:24] <HammerBlade2020> JayNiu~ sorry, i don't know what that is.
[03:24] <JayNiu> oh ok
[03:24] <mlalkaka> How do I know which kernel keycodes are not being used by looking at the output of dumpkeys? Is it the ones that say nothing or the ones that say "nul"?
[03:24] <richbayliss> green_earz: i wonder why Ubuntu has issues with the tulip card!?!?
[03:24] <JayNiu> just encryption
[03:25] <HammerBlade2020> JayNiu~ of what kind of files?
[03:25] <IdleOne> JayNiu:  default install needs 1.7/1.8gb you should be ok unless you plan on storing data on there
[03:25] <green_earz> richbayliss: i use 3com and no problem with them and on ebay they nice a cheap
[03:25] <logical_mark> Hey where can I download the latest beta of Dapper?
[03:25] <JayNiu> HammerBlade2020 - .doc/.pdf that I receive via email from my company
[03:25] <Angel_Dex> What is a MiB?
[03:25] <nickrud> !flight4
[03:25] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[03:26] <nickrud> logical_mark: ^^^
[03:26] <HammerBlade2020> JayNiu~ doesn't sound real resource consuming.
[03:26] <pr3t0r1an0> \join #ubuntu -es
[03:26] <richbayliss> green_earz: 3com are ok. LiveCD didnt bitch about no nic's - so its found at least 1
[03:26] <IdleOne> pr3t0r1an0:  /join $ubuntu-es
[03:26] <JayNiu> ok great
[03:26] <JayNiu> HammerBlade2020 - what couldnt run on the computer?
[03:26] <HammerBlade2020> JayNiu~ umm.. probably high level video encoding
[03:26] <logical_mark> nickrud, thanks
[03:27] <nickrud> Angel_Dex: bytes measured in 1000's, rather than 1024's
[03:27] <gqed76> anyway to resize a partition thats active or do i need to boot off a live cd
[03:27] <Angel_Dex> nickrud aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh ok
[03:27] <Angel_Dex> thank you
[03:27] <bubba> over the weekend, ive gotten breezy 64 working except for the wireless... ARG!!! so close.
[03:27] <Biscuitian_Warhe> gqed76: I'd go with the LiveCD, I can't think of anyway
[03:27] <richbayliss> green_earz: all this to make a freakin VPN/Router/WebServer
[03:27] <ba> anyone know anything about resizing ntfs paritions?
[03:28] <green_earz> richbayliss: so its only seeing one card, may be its a faulty card that you are have the problem with ??
[03:28] <jimcooncat>  hi. I'd like to create LVM logical volumes on a usb hard drive as a target for backup files. How portable can this kind of setup be? If I popped in a live cd would I be able to access the data?
[03:28] <gqed76> hope gparted is on it
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ba: It's not fun
[03:28] <richbayliss> green_earz: on their own - both cards work
[03:28] <Biscuitian_Warhe> gqed76: which livecd?
[03:28] <HammerBlade2020> gqed76~ on the knoppix live cd it has qtparted which is good.
[03:28] <ba> Biscuitian_Warhe, it cant be that hard
[03:28] <gqed76> oh i just have ubuntu live cd
[03:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ba:It's not hard, but it's risky in all cases whether your Winblows system will come back up
[03:29] <gqed76> i want to resize my partition to make room for XP
[03:29] <gqed76> but since its mounted, i cant
[03:29] <richbayliss> green_earz: livecd is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
[03:29] <tanubis> anyone know of a place I can get a frontend for the pandora music genome project?
[03:30] <fak3> how do i get the xfce in use, now that i have completed the the apt-get install?
[03:30] <IdleOne> fak3:  logout and at login screen click on sessions choose xfce
[03:30] <nickrud> fak3: it should be under sessions on your gdm login screen
[03:30] <fak3> okay
[03:31] <IdleOne> see you in a few ()
[03:31] <HammerBlade2020> fak3~ what they said :-p
[03:31] <richbayliss> green_earz: ok - finally booted - only 1 nic show
[03:31] <dejx> 
[03:31] <fak3> gqed76: it is easier to install xp first then unbuntu after
[03:31] <green_earz> richbayliss: thats unusual. only one card works at a time. have a look in the bios, they may be a clue in there ?? > look at using shorewall the setup a gateway machine
[03:31] <anildigital> hi Good Morning all Indians
[03:31] <HammerBlade2020> ?
[03:32] <anildigital> and Hello to all
[03:32] <IdleOne> hello
[03:32] <nickrud> not so much now 
[03:32] <anildigital> hey IdleOne
[03:32] <gqed76> yes i know but i really dont want to format and have to spend a week recustomizing my ubuntu
[03:32] <anildigital> U r here for last 12 hours
[03:32] <richbayliss> green_earz: i have dug out anouther similar SMC card, and a dlink one
[03:32] <HammerBlade2020>  <----- why does everyone use the same face.
[03:32] <IdleOne> anildigital:  yes I have
[03:32] <richbayliss> green_earz: ill see what one work
[03:32] <_jason> HammerBlade2020: :) ?
[03:32] <nickrud> HammerBlade2020: trendy
[03:33] <HammerBlade2020> o.O
[03:33] <fak3> gqed76: good point
[03:33] <richbayliss> green_earz: does shorewall do dialin VPN?
[03:33] <IdleOne> Im just waiting for everybody to use this () and then Ill revert back to old default and be cool again :P
[03:33] <green_earz> richbayliss:    http://www.shorewall.net/  for you gateway setup
[03:34] <_jason> HammerBlade2020: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9402
[03:34] <richbayliss> green_earz: just looking
[03:34] <HammerBlade2020> _jason~ nice looking terminal client
[03:34] <fak3> idleone: is that custom unicode?
[03:35] <HammerBlade2020> _jason~ ahh i see..
[03:35] <gqed76> anyide where i can get somethign to resolve XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[03:35] <cafuego> IdleOne: k 
[03:35] <IdleOne> fak3:  I stole it from Seveas
[03:35] <cafuego> fak3: Prolly some kanji that looks like a smiley.
[03:35] <IdleOne> its japanese
[03:35] <richbayliss> green_earz: i was thinking that ubuntu would make a good router/firewall/vpn etc
[03:35] <anildigital> anybody know how to start x from a termianl
[03:35] <nickrud> katakana
[03:35] <anildigital> ?
[03:35] <richbayliss> startx
[03:36] <_jason> HammerBlade2020: the smileys started getting annoying after 2 days so I replaced them
[03:36] <fak3> idleone: yes it does look like a japanese charactor now that i think of it
[03:36] <HammerBlade2020> it looks like poop to me
[03:36] <nickrud> echo "gnome-session" > ~/.xsession && startx
[03:36] <IdleOne> fak3:  its Tsu
[03:36] <fak3> opps
[03:36] <cafuego> Does Tsu have a meaning, by itself?
[03:36] <green_earz> richbayliss: i would say use debain sarge mimium install command line only and check out shorewall
[03:36] <IdleOne> cafuego:  I dont think it does
[03:37] !lilo:*! More wording changes in http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#purpose .... it seems that if you change a few things, there's a cascade effect....this may do it
[03:37] <nickrud> Seveas may have changed the face of irc 
[03:37] <IdleOne> Razor-X`:  could explain Tsu in detail
[03:37] <richbayliss> green_earz: ok
[03:37] <richbayliss> green_earz: lets see what cards this box liked..................
[03:38] <Linux_whor1> Angel_Dex: is that game good?
[03:38] <Angel_Dex> Linux_whor1 Doom legacy? i cant even get it to run TT_TT and no one shall help me
[03:38] <richbayliss> green_earz: ok - i got 3 out of 4
[03:38] <phiber_optic> anyone here installed glitz?
[03:39] <gqed76> has anyone installed the neweest gparted.  I getting an error "checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"
[03:39] <Linux_whor1> Kezzerxir "rm -are dir"
[03:39] <fak3> i do not notice much of a difference with efce, i guess i will get more RAM
[03:39] <Angel_Dex> Linux_whor1 it cant find open_music? or somthing then the x11 version i cant even find its terminal command to run it
[03:39] <IdleOne> fak3:  how much ram do you have?
[03:39] <fak3> 128
[03:39] <wickers> ouch
[03:39] <wickers>  upgrade man
[03:39] <wickers> upgrade
[03:39] <cliebow> gqed:you need to install perl module xml:parser?
[03:39] <wickers> ;)
[03:40] <phiber_optic> anyone here installed xgl and compiz?
[03:40] <richbayliss> green_earz: ok
[03:40] <nickrud> woah, 128K really sucks
[03:40] <wickers> Phazeman, #ubuntu-xgl
[03:40] <richbayliss> green_earz: i think my newer SMC, D-Link and Realtek are supported
[03:40] <gqed76> heh im looking for it
[03:40] <Toma-> I know theyre 2 different things, but would ivman be more suited to handling ipods than a simple automount setup?
[03:40] <_jason> nickrud: 128K?
[03:40] <nickrud> hm. wrong decade
[03:40] <green_earz> richbayliss: when you have the router built have a look at using AIDE : aptitude show aide
[03:40] <fak3> how do i wipe my terminal command history?
[03:40] <cafuego> 128K ram is *more* then enough for everyone!
[03:40] <wickers> I'm holding down a gig on this lappy, and 768 on my desktop.
[03:41] <cafuego> We cna all share it and still have left overs!
[03:41] <_jason> fak3: history -c, iirc
[03:41] <nickrud> hey, I ran buildings on 128K !
[03:41] <cliebow> gqed:libxml-parser-perl?
[03:42] <Linux_whor1> anildigital startx
[03:42] <Not_ZeromusMog> Hey everyone, I upgraded Firefox to 1.5 and now whenever I click on a link in an external program it does not open up, do I need to set it as some kind of super-default browser or something somewhere?
[03:42] <nickrud> tell Not_ZeromusMog about ff1.5
[03:42] <nickrud> !tell Not_ZeromusMog about ff1.5
[03:42] <richbayliss> green_earz: thanks - i will - im trying to build a box i can setup as a server for a small LAN for a buisness
[03:43] <nickrud> Not_ZeromusMog: that ubotu msg should set you up properly for firefox 1.5
[03:43] <Not_ZeromusMog> yes those are the instructions I used to install ff1.5
[03:43] <richbayliss> green_earz: they want VPN, simple web/ftp, and a few other odd's and sods
[03:43] <fak3> _jason - thank you
[03:43] <Linux_whor1> Angle_Dex maybe its supposed to be installed with something else?
[03:43] <nickrud> Not_ZeromusMog: some programs, you'll need to specify the path to firefox, it's a case by case analysis
[03:44] <cafuego> richbayliss: Ubuntu does pptp (windows) by default, should be dandy.
[03:44] <kybishop> hi, is this an appropriate place to ask questions, or more for discusion?
[03:44] <Linux_whor1> fak3 "rm .bash_history"
[03:44] <gazj> does any1 use ubuntu-uk
[03:44] <nickrud> kybishop: you have the right place, at least to start
[03:44] <_jason> kybishop: questions generally
[03:44] <Madpilot> kybishop, questions - if you just want chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:44] <green_earz> richbayliss: i would say then use debian sarge for its stableness and security updates, with shorewall and AIDE
[03:44] <DrShade> Greetings, I'm trying to install Apache (1.3 series) but Synaptic gave me a cryptic 3 line error message and I'm wondering what went wrong?
[03:44] <richbayliss> cafuego: def - just need a webpage to config my firewall
[03:45] <richbayliss> green_earz: how far off sarge is breezy!? just to save me a download
[03:45] <kybishop> well, i have a server install (with xubuntu-desktop) install, and i did an apt-get dist-upgrade a while ago
[03:45] <nickrud> richbayliss: very far, so far you cannot mix
[03:45] <Not_ZeromusMog> Yeah I just redid the dpkg-divert/ln instructions part and still no go
[03:45] <cafuego> fak3: If you never want a command history, echo unset HISTFILE >> ~.pprofile
[03:45] <kybishop> now the text loading thing is replaced with a graphical one
[03:45] <Not_ZeromusMog> I click on a link, the hard drive grunts, and nothing happens
[03:45] <richbayliss> nickrud: point taken!! :)
[03:45] <kybishop> is there any way to see a log of all the boot messages, or to turn the graphical loading thing off
[03:45] <nickrud> richbayliss: we all have hopes for the future
[03:46] <kybishop> ill put it all on one line
[03:46] <phiber_optic> what is the minimun graphics card for xgl and compiz?
[03:46] <cafuego> phiber_optic: #ubuntu-xgl
[03:46] <nickrud> my 5200 on a 800mhz pIII worked, but was a little sluggish
[03:46] <cafuego> (or even #ubuntu+1)
[03:46] <green_earz> richbayliss: in debian there stable, testing and unstable. verions. breezy is from the unstable version
[03:46] <phiber_optic> cafuego, im there and none answered me in like 15 min
[03:46] <DrShade> Greetings, I'm trying to install Apache (1.3 series) but Synaptic gave me a cryptic 3 line error message and I'm wondering what went wrong?
[03:46] <fak3> you know how you can make different terminal themes, would it be possible to customise a theme so that it would have not history?
[03:47] <kybishop> i have a server install (with xubuntu-desktop) install, and i did an apt-get dist-upgrade a while ago. now the text loading thing is replaced with a graphical one. is there any way to see a log of all the boot messages, or to turn the graphical loading thing off.
[03:47] <Not_ZeromusMog> Aha, the answer was to change the default browser setting in the settings from mozilla-firefox %s to firefox %s
[03:47] <tideline> hi all, quick network related question - my laptop is having trouble finding its wireless card - it is visible in device manager, but not in network settings and there is no +add button to add it, is there a way to add it?
[03:47] <richbayliss> green_earz: cool
[03:47] <green_earz> np
[03:48] <IdleOne> !wireless
[03:48] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:48] <richbayliss> green_earz: im contemplaiting making a simple distro to do the job im after
[03:48] <richbayliss> green_earz: like an ubuntu "small business edition"
[03:48] <nickrud> kybishop: /var/log/dmesg has a partial boot log, also see /var/log/messages
[03:48] <kybishop> ty nickrud
[03:49] <green_earz> richbayliss: smoothwall is the distro that dose that but its based on rpm packages not .debs
[03:50] <crxyem> so anyone here have any good ideas on how to display a link to a device "/dev/sda0" on a panel ??
[03:50] <richbayliss> green_earz: but smoothwall lacks some of the services i need my server to have
[03:50] <anildigital> hey tell me some cool site to start with ubuntu?
[03:50] <Toma-> richbayliss, business edition? like, with openoffice?
[03:50] <HammerBlade2020> crxyem~ nautilus - -nodesktop /dev/sda0
[03:50] <IdleOne> anildigital:  wiki.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <Madpilot> anildigital, wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <richbayliss> Toma: dunno about any buisness edition of OO.org?!
[03:50] <nickrud> kybishop: also, you can remove 'quiet splash' from the relevant lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:51] <green_earz> richbayliss: to install debian all you need is the first cd to do a net install
[03:51] <richbayliss> green_earz: yeah - but that will take me a while ;)
[03:51] <Toma-> richbayliss, define "business edition" then
[03:51] <richbayliss> green_earz: only got 1meg
[03:51] <nickrud> anildigital: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:52] <pussfeller> is there something like a directory diff?
[03:52] <pussfeller> compare 2 dirs and enumerate differences
[03:52] <green_earz> richbayliss: if you can download the iso image with bittorent so there is no faults on the iso image
[03:52] <bzbb> whats the best way to mount a directory from one breezy box on another?
[03:52] <richbayliss> Toma: something offering service which buisness's require
[03:52] <anildigital> nickrud what is that link about?
[03:52] <pussfeller> bzbb: nfs
[03:52] <Toma-> richbayliss, what kind of business's :D
[03:52] <madd_matt> bzbb, you mean sharing across network?  nfs
[03:52] <richbayliss> green_earz: i ALWAYS use bittorrent :) for that very reason
[03:52] <nickrud> anildigital: getting non free media (movies & the like) to work
[03:52] <richbayliss> toma: ones which like PC's ;)
[03:53] <Toma-> ok then
[03:53] <DrShade> Greetings, I'm trying to install Apache (1.3 series) but Synaptic gave me a cryptic 3 line error message in the terminal output and I'm wondering what went wrong?
[03:53] <Toma-> alot of business's use PC these days, its a very very very broad area
[03:53] <Mantice> How Do you know what ubuntu version you got?
[03:53] <nickrud> DrShade: without the cryptic 3 line error message ....
[03:53] <HammerBlade2020> Toma-~ been a long time hello.
[03:54] <bimberi> Mantice: lsb_release -a (in a terminal)
[03:54] <Toma-> ello HammerBlade2020
[03:54] <madd_matt> Ubuntu is currently installing behind me, i was just wondering, its been mentioned theres no mp3 support ......
[03:54] <nickrud> !mp3
[03:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:54] <bimberi> madd_matt: not out of the box but ^^^^
[03:54] <HammerBlade2020> madd_matt~ sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[03:54] <Toma-> !ogg
[03:54] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Toma-
[03:54] <Toma-> :O
[03:54] <HammerBlade2020> o.O
[03:54] <kybishop> next question. I can't seem to find sndconfig in apt-get, is there any way i can download it, or a repository i can add to download it
[03:54] <nickrud> !freeformats
[03:54] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:54] <madd_matt> thanks all =] 
[03:54] <Toma-> no-ones done a info tag for ogg???
[03:54] <DrShade> nickrud, point taken ;) Okay - Setting up apache (1.3.33-8ubuntu1) ... | dpkg: error processing apache (--configure): | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:55] <HammerBlade2020> i dont like ogg
[03:55] <xerophyte> cool link :http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.cgi
[03:55] <Toma-> ogg is open source and better than mp3
[03:55] <madd_matt> nickrud, sometimes mp3 files are unavoidable :P -- although ogg and flac are better of course
[03:55] <HammerBlade2020> eh i don't think it's better
[03:55] <nickrud> DrShade: try installing it with apt-get in a terminal, you should get a better error message
[03:55] <Toma-> higher quality, smaller files :D
[03:55] <Mantice> Could some one help me out here. Im runing ATi installer and it says Ubuntu then Breasy. Thats the one I picked b4 and it dont work Do you think the problem is that I should go Ubuntu 5.10 because thats what lsb_release -a says it is
[03:55] <HammerBlade2020> i love mah mp3's
[03:55] <madd_matt> I've done quality comparisons before.  Ogg wins.
[03:55] <crxyem> so anybody have an ideas on adding items to a panel ??
[03:56] <richbayliss> green_earz: i think this mobo is dodgy
[03:56] <Mantice> Right click add to panel
[03:56] <HammerBlade2020> cryxem~ i told you..
[03:56] <richbayliss> green_earz: now these cards arnt showing up
[03:56] <HammerBlade2020> crxyem~ nautilus - -nodesktop /dev/sda0
[03:56] <phlaegel> anybody have lm-sensors working in dapper?
[03:56] <richbayliss> green_earz: time to fk it off me thinks
[03:56] <Mantice> ATi = dodgy
[03:56] <sagarp> how do you disable a program from loading at startup?
[03:56] <nickrud> hm, I think around 3% of my music is ogg, I was stupid then, and lazy now 
[03:56] <richbayliss> green_earz: AMD 800 (4yrs old)
[03:57] <crxyem> Hammer, I'll have to give it a try again, I couldn't get it to work last night
[03:57] <bimberi> xerophyte: that site is excellent, thanks!
[03:57] <DrShade> nickrud, it looks like it completed with success, through the terminal...hmmm? :|
[03:57] <Mantice> terminal = your friend :(
[03:57] <nickrud> DrShade: just be happy, I guess
[03:57] <Seyekoh> Looking for help.  I have an Asus A7N8X Deluxe nForce2 chipset (Realtek integrated audio)...  I cannot get any audio working.
[03:57] <Toma-> nickrud, it only takes 1 script and one execution to change it all :D (not to mention about 4 days of processing)
[03:57] <Mantice> Im going to leave windows for good if i get my ati card to pump out more than 10 fps on the ant screensaver :P
[03:57] <richbayliss> green_earz: yep - mobo is screewed i think
[03:58] <green_earz> could be
[03:58] <nickrud> Toma-: and, loss of quality. I am not about to feed 300 disks back in, just to go ogg
[03:58] <richbayliss> im off all -- thanks for your help green_earz, nickrud et al
[03:58] <richbayliss> night!!
[03:58] <nickrud> richbayliss: see you around
[03:58] <Toma-> hehe
[03:58] <green_earz> all the best
[03:58] <richbayliss> cheers
[03:58] <madd_matt> I rip all my CDs to flac, the shiny losslessness =] 
[03:59] <nickrud> or flac
[03:59] <zx8> i am running an inel sound card , plays sound perfectly but when i try to talk into the mic all it records is static
[03:59] <zx8> inel=intel
[03:59] <HammerBlade2020> zx8~ tried looking at alsamixer ?
[03:59] <HammerBlade2020> zx8~ you might have something turned up that shouldn't be
[03:59] <zx8> i tried kmix
[04:00] <Seyekoh> I have an Asus A7N8X Deluxe nForce2 chipset (Realtek integrated audio)...  I cannot get any audio working.  Anybody have any suggestions?
[04:00] <Seyekoh> zx8: from what i have found looking for my sound problems, i saw people setting Default Source to OSS and Default Sink to ALSA for mic difficulties
[04:00] <cafuego> Seyekoh: $15 SBLive PCI card
[04:01] <madd_matt> Does ubuntu provide the nvidia binary drivers in apt?
[04:01] <Seyekoh> cafuego: i guess i did ask for suggestions... =/
[04:01] <zx8> Seyekoh how do i do that?
[04:01] <cafuego> I admit that may not be a suggest you _want_ to hear.
[04:01] <phlaegel> madd_matt: yes
[04:01] <nickrud> oooh, some seriously good advice, Seyekoh
[04:01] <anildigital> how to install latest ver of firefox in ubuntu
[04:01] <Seyekoh> System > Preferences > Multimedia Systems Selector
[04:02] <cafuego> madd_matt: linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and nvidia-glx
[04:02] <madd_matt> Thanks cafuego
[04:02] <odla> !tell anildigital about ff1.5
[04:02] <adub> has anyone heard of the aol version of linux called gamera??
[04:02] <cafuego> madd_matt: maybe 'nvidia-glx-legacy' if it's a crusty old card
[04:02] <isceald> any ideas why the web is tragically slow over wireless? (newly installed)
[04:03] <madd_matt> cafuego, its a ti-4xxx something.  Doesn't really matter, this is a backup/emergency system i'm putting in anyways.
[04:03] <cafuego> isceald: Yeah, I'm downloading stuff, sorry.
[04:03] <isceald> heh
[04:04] <babo> I have a weird problem ... I'm trying to import the contents of a file into a bash script. I want to preserve newlines, I've tried a couple of scripts that apparently should work but don't ... how do you import a file + newlines into a bash script ?
[04:04] <psusi> babo, ". /path/to/file"
[04:05] <cliebow> babb: cant you use cat filename|whil reaf;do
[04:05] <cliebow> done
[04:05] <babo> psusi: I want to be able to parse in the text of the file ... not just to include the file in my directory
[04:06] <psusi> babo, what?
[04:06] <babo> cliebow: doesn't preserve newlines
[04:06] <cliebow> babo: cant you use cat filename|while read;do
[04:06] <cliebow> sorry...
[04:06] <zx8> Seyokoh: thanks that worked!
[04:06] <zF> I'm trying to install cedega, but it says it depends on libx and, when I apt-get install that it says there's no packages for that
[04:06] <mlambie> is it easy for me to upgrade just one pacakge (and its dependencies) to dapper while maintaining a breezy system?
[04:07] <psusi> babo, what exactly are you trying to do?  include one script in another?
[04:07] <IdleOne> mlambie:  no
[04:07] <babo> psusi: no ... I want to feed in the text from a file into my script
[04:07] <nickrud> mlambie: probably not. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto has some pointers
[04:07] <mlambie> IdleOne: ok, thanks
[04:07] <mlambie> that's it
[04:08] <IdleOne> mlambie:  only because you take the risk of breaking breezy
[04:08] <mlambie> couldn't remember the term : pinning :)
[04:08] <cafuego> mlambie: Yes, as long as you do a backport from source.
[04:08] <zF> !cedega
[04:08] <cafuego> mlambie: But not if you were after Xgl.
[04:08] <mlambie> nah, after latest version of cacti, a web based snmp monitoring system
[04:09] <cafuego> mlambie: Yeh, do a backport, should be easy.
[04:09] <psusi> babo, <</path/to/file iirc
[04:09] <mlambie> wicked
[04:09] <Mantice> Man I need help really bad :(
[04:09] <cafuego> s/n/s/
[04:09] <Mantice> My ATi card is broken hard
[04:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ksown?
[04:09] <Mantice> I cant get it working with ubntu :(
[04:09] <ale_> Hi!
[04:09] <adub> has anyone heard of the aol version of linux called gamera??
[04:09] <mlambie> i want to import some templates that were exported with a later version of cacki
[04:10] <ale_> can someone please help me?
[04:10] <_jason> ale_: hi! just ask a question and someone will try if they know
[04:10] <Mantice> Could I please have a ATi guru?
[04:10] <ale_> ok thanks
[04:10] <cafuego> Mantice: The card is fine, the driver are broken (if you're using ATI ones)
[04:10] <Mantice> How to I fix the ATi driver then
[04:11] <ale_> i am trying to compile something, i have build essential installed but my "system" dont see this and i always get a c compiler error cannot create a executable
[04:11] <Mantice> So your saying the whole time that the ati.com drivers where broken
[04:11] <ale_> i remove build essential only for test with the same result
[04:11] <babo> psusi: nope
[04:11] <Mantice> I wasted 8 hours yestoday for nothing :(
[04:11] <cafuego> mlambie: Add a 'deb-src http://.... dapper main' line in sources.list; run apt-get update; sudo apt-get -b source cacti
[04:11] <ROFLCOPTER|`evoL> what is the command to set the root password ?
[04:11] <cafuego> mlambie: For the latter command, you may need to fetch a few additionald eps (but get BREEZY versions)
[04:11] <Toma-> Mantice, youve probably got conflicting drivers........ have you tried installing the breezy compiled ati drivers?
[04:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell ROFLCOPTER|`evoL about root
[04:11] <IdleOne> Mantice:  I recall giving the link to the wiki a couple times :P
[04:12] <nickrud> ROFLCOPTER|`evoL: sudo passwd ; but why?
[04:12] <Mantice> ?
[04:12] <_jason> ale_: hrmm it shouldn't do that, did you reinstall build-essential after removing it?
[04:12] <IdleOne> !ati
[04:12] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:12] <ale_> yes
[04:12] <Mantice> Yeah
[04:12] <Toma-> Mantice, the ones in synaptic/apt
[04:12] <psusi> babo, nope what?
[04:12] <Mantice> Thats how I found out how to install it
[04:12] <ale_> i only unistall one time to see what happend
[04:12] <ROFLCOPTER|`evoL> thanks _jason
[04:12] <Mantice> hold on ill get them now
[04:12] <babo> psusi: nope ... it doesn't work
[04:12] <cafuego> !forums 423589
[04:13] <Toma-> Mantice, dont install both, itll mess your system up.
[04:13] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 423589 is: General - HOW-TO: ATI fglrx driver latest version - Ubuntu Forums
[04:13] <Mantice> Ive installed like all 3
[04:13] <mzinz> ive got a logical link to my windows box so that i can play music through xmms, but use files that are ON the other computer.  when i navigate to the computer and double click on one of the songs, a dialogue box comes up asking for the path to the song i want (but its right there infront of me.)  what is the actual path to the computer?
[04:13] <Toma-> Mantice, thats probably the problem.
[04:13] <phiber_optic> IF i install a new video card will ubuntu recognize it?
[04:13] <JRGC> I just updated from Hoary to Breezy and I get only the console? How can I get back to KDE? How can i start the Xserver? I tried with /etc/init.d/kdm start and nothing.
[04:13] <Mantice> The first one dident work :(
[04:13] <psusi> babo, "don't work" is not an error description
[04:13] <Zoder2> hi all
[04:13] <cafuego> phiber_optic: yes, but X may not.
[04:14] <Toma-> phiber_optic, yep. but youll have to get the drivers yourself
[04:14] <nickrud> phiber_optic: if it doesn't sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will fix it
[04:14] <Toma-> Mantice, did you completely remove it after it didnt work?
[04:14] <Mantice> No It dident say how to remove on the wiki :9
[04:14] <progrock> Is there any chance I'd get my ATI AIW x600 to play tv in ubuntu?
[04:14] <Toma-> :|
[04:14] <psusi> babo, oh wait... I got confused... that's a here document
[04:15] <jetscreamer> there's a chance
[04:15] <phiber_optic> Toma- so will I have to reinstall everythign?
[04:15] <Zoder2> Zoder2 i wanted to know if someone could help me fix my alsa  witha CMedia9880 soundcardand i have no mic in no fron/back in and no inputs whatsoever (that work) i made sure everything is unmuted and everything at 100% another issue is in cirtian apps the sound is crackly and does anyone know how to fix anything of the sort? i also tried putting another soundacard in and i have now tried 3 cards (my 9880 a SB live! 34 bit and a S
[04:15] <Zoder2> B audi
[04:15] <Zoder2> Zoder2 gy LS) the LS is very distorted and only comes out of 2 speakers of my 5.1 and my Live! doesnt work at all Alsa detects it as an LS so thats why i tried my LS ANYWAY can anyone please help? :P
[04:15] <psusi> that's if you want lines embeded in the script itself passed as stdin to the command
[04:15] <jetscreamer> gool luck to you my son, may the nforce be with you
[04:15] <Mantice> Ive installed some random guys way, and the ATi.com way and the Ubuntu way
[04:15] <_jason> ale_: what are you compiling and hve you tried different things?
[04:15] <jetscreamer> s/gool/good/ and yes i know you said ati
[04:15] <mzinz> Can i get a codec to play .m4a files?
[04:15] <jetscreamer> yes there is one
[04:15] <Toma-> phiber_optic, nope. just dpkg-reconfigure the driver package and xserver-xorg, unless youre going from ati to nvidia or vice-versa
[04:16] <ale_> yes jason i try with 3 diferents things
[04:16] <phiber_optic> what if i already have an nvidia
[04:16] <phiber_optic> but im updating it
[04:16] <zF> I'm trying to install cedega, but it says it depends on xlibs and, when I apt-get install that it says there's no packages for that
[04:16] <ale_> someone in ubuntu forums compile without problems that ones
[04:16] <ale_> is my problem
[04:16] <Mantice> Toma- what should I do?
[04:16] <Toma-> phiber_optic, should be a simple plug'n'play.... *should*
[04:16] <_jason> ale_: what does 'gcc --version' say?
[04:16] <phiber_optic> okkk
[04:16] <ale_> 4.0
[04:17] <phiber_optic> I guess windows will crush
[04:17] <_jason> ale_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall build-essential, and try again I guess
[04:17] <ale_> ok
[04:17] <Toma-> Mantice, someone was in here once saying his drivers didnt work and later found out he had both the offical ones AND the breezy ones installed. this can make lib's look in all sorts of different directions and break the libs.
[04:17] <ale_> gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[04:17] <Toma-> Mantice, basically, get rid of them all, and start again.
[04:18] <Toma-> Mantice, how, i dont know sorry. :(
[04:18] <Mantice> Well they ant working So If i try again it should work
[04:18] <Toma-> Mantice, make sure you get rid of alllll the drivers.
[04:19] <Toma-> then, start again.
[04:19] <Nicotine> hi
[04:19] <ale_> always the same error
[04:19] <barleyman> hi all quick question.  I am running Breezy Badger with gDesklets.  I just noticed something funny, when I minimize apps, they disappear to the bottom right of the screen.  They are not on my bottom panel like normal.  I probably clicked something wrong, but I can't find an answer with google.  Any ideas?
[04:19] <Toma-> ale_, youre in dapper?
[04:19] <ale_> i dont undertand a couple of weeks ago before re installing ubuntu i compile many things without problems
[04:20] <ale_> nop breezy
[04:20] <Nicotine> I have an IRC matter that i can only ask here due to all the other IRC channel's being down and what not.
[04:20] <ale_> stable
[04:20] <Nicotine> What are the IRC commands?
[04:20] <IdleOne> irc/
[04:20] <Toma-> ahh nevermind
[04:20] <Mantice> I dont need to do these commands right sudo apt-get install linux-686 because it was installed
[04:20] <IdleOne> if your new to irc check out this site www.irchelp.org there are answer to many question regarding IRC and how to use it :)
[04:20] <Nicotine> ok
[04:21] <Nicotine> thanks
[04:21] <IdleOne> np
[04:21] <Mabus06> Nicotine: I need you.
[04:21] <Nicotine> ok
[04:21] <barleyman> bump
[04:21] <Mantice> sudo apt-get install linux-686
[04:21] <Mantice> E: Couldn't find package amd64-generic
[04:21] <ale_> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:21] <Mantice> What does that mean
[04:21] <ale_> always that problem
[04:22] <Mabus06> ale_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:22] <ale_> dont care if i have or not build essential installed
[04:22] <nickrud> Mantice: shouldn't that be linux-image-amd64-generic ?
[04:22] <ale_> i have that one installed
[04:22] <Mantice> Yeah
[04:22] <Mabus06> ale_: what do you mean, you don't care?
[04:22] <Mabus06> oh
[04:22] <Mantice> I change command put pasted wrong command
[04:22] <kybishop> how do you turn the graphical boot loader off, so its just a text loader?
[04:22] <ale_> dont care is i have installed build essential i get the same error
[04:22] <Mantice> Nicrud thanks for that
[04:22] <Mantice> it works now
[04:22] <kybishop> is that the splash command under kernel?
[04:22] <ale_> my system dont see where i have the compiler tools
[04:23] <Mantice> ^_^ latest version just how I like it
[04:23] <war-totem> anyone ever had their ubuntu screen shake?
[04:23] <ale_> sorry my english is very poor
[04:23] <IdleOne> ale_:  try sudo apt-get install build-essential and see what it says
[04:23] <war-totem> usuall it comes from the speaker being too close to the monitor
[04:23] <war-totem> but its not right now
[04:24] <ale_> build essential is in the last version
[04:24] <Healot> eventually,. totem needed more gstreamer plugins rather the default install, bleh
[04:24] <matsur> anybody here used picard (music brainz tagger) on amd64?
[04:24] <ale_> but in spanish
[04:24] <nickrud> kybishop: remove quiet splash from the lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:24] <IdleOne> !es
[04:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:24] <pudland> does anyone have gspy installed?
[04:25] <mark_skinner> are the new mesa-glib drivers used instead of ati/nvidia opengl drivers?
[04:25] <orangey> hey all!
[04:25] <zF> !cedega
[04:25] <IdleOne> hey
[04:25] <orangey> What package is the gnome-network-settings thing in?
[04:25] <zF> can someone help me install cedega
[04:25] <mark_skinner> I'd like to get cedega working on this new brezzy install.. anyone point to a good online resource?
[04:25] <bosco> allright i am useing xmms to play my  music and i downloaded some off a torrent and it downloaded it as an mp3 why wont it play in  xmms
[04:26] <IdleOne> !cedega
[04:26] <IdleOne>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:26] <mark_skinner> !
[04:26] <ubotu> mark_skinner: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:26] <ale_> mark use automatix
[04:26] <mark_skinner> ty
[04:26] <bimberi> orangey: gnome-system-tools
[04:26] <ale_> is the seasiest way
[04:26] <IdleOne> mark_skinner:  dont use automatix
[04:26] <orangey> bimberi: thank you
[04:26] <_jason> ale_: what does this do: echo -e '#include <stdio.h>\nint main() { printf("hello, world!\\n"); }' > hello.c && gcc -o hello hello.c && ./hello
[04:26] <bimberi> orangey: yw :)
[04:26] <IdleOne> ale_:  dont tell ppl to use that
[04:26] <orangey> IdleOne: why not?
[04:26] <KurtKraut> Windows has a specific version for Tablet PCs with handwrite recognition. Is there any 'clone' system for linux/Ubuntu ?
[04:27] <IdleOne> !automatix
[04:27] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation. (see !easyubuntu)
[04:27] <bosco> allright i am useing xmms to play my  music and i downloaded some off a torrent and it downloaded it as an mp3 why wont it play in  xmms
[04:27] <orangey> !easyubuntu
[04:27] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:27] <ale_> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'as'
[04:27] <mark_skinner> ty ill do that .. going there now
[04:27] <bosco> ubotu i used automatix and i still run fine
[04:27] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bosco
[04:27] <ale_> sorry i didnt now that automatix is not good...
[04:27] <kybishop> can you install sndconfig in ubuntu, or is it only for red hat?
[04:28] <mark_skinner> are the mesa drivers an additional resource that both ATI and NVidia drivers use?
[04:28] <_jason> ale_: hrmm
[04:28] <bosco> ubotu no i got it from a torrent  how do i play the mp3 in xmms
[04:28] <ubotu> bosco: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:28] <xerophyte> i have sound working but when i run esd its saying there is no /dev/dsp how can i get this working ?
[04:28] <_jason> bosco: ubotu is a bot :)
[04:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell bosco about yourself
[04:28] <orangey> IdleOne: yeah.. that is true. I noticed (and worried about) all those things while installing..
[04:29] <ale_> yes something is bad
[04:29] <pudland> bosco, ubotu is a "bot"
[04:29] <orangey> IdleOne: incidentally, when it installs things like firefox 1.5, does it create a package?
[04:29] <bosco> naq
[04:29] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[04:29] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:29] <pudland> !ubotu
[04:29] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[04:29] <_jason> ale_: echo $PATH, paste that here
[04:29] <orangey> that's too bad..
[04:29] <orangey> why not a backported firefox package?
[04:30] <bimberi> orangey: that is discussed on that page
[04:30] <ale_> /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[04:30] <nickrud> orangey: too many other things would need to be backported, because they depend on firefox
[04:30] <bimberi> ... and by nickrud :)
[04:30] <orangey> nickrud: gotcha
[04:30] <Madpilot> orangey, Dapper is due out in mid-April, it'll have FF1.5 by default
[04:30] <_jason> ale_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall binutils
[04:31] <nickrud> My Birthday!
[04:31] <mark_skinner> well easyubuntu seems to be a tar.bzip2 file. where is the README or INSTALL for it?
[04:31] <_jason> nickrud: happy birthday!
[04:31] <IdleOne> we should all send nickrud  a brand spanking shinny new ubuntu Dapper cd for his birthday
[04:31] <nickrud> _jason: I mean dapper release date 
[04:31] <bimberi> _jason: whoa, i think he means april 20!
[04:31] <orangey> Madpilot: and at that point, what will happen to those who installed it manually?
[04:31] <_jason> oh :)
[04:31] <orangey> Madpilot: will it by chance gracefully overwrite?
[04:32] <odla> 4/20?
[04:32] <Delvien> anyone help me with a WoW issue ?
[04:32] <ale_> done jason
[04:32] <Madpilot> orangey, who installed FF1.5? No idea, I haven't bothered with FF1.5 myself
[04:32] <xerophyte> how can i share my sound with other applications with alsa
[04:32] <nickrud> 4/20/56, too many things converge on that day
[04:32] <odla> interesting release date if you ask me
[04:32] <xnix> xorg
[04:32] <_jason> ale_: try the hello world command again
[04:32] <Madpilot> nickrud, 2056? :P
[04:32] <mark_skinner> Delvien, I am trying to get cedega installed for WoW support :)   Horde on Crushridge!
[04:32] <kybishop> happy birthday and thank you nickrud
[04:32] <Delvien> mark_skinner cedega sucks ass !
[04:32] <mark_skinner> well easyubuntu seems to be a tar.bzip2 file. where is the README or INSTALL for it?
[04:32] <ale_> now seams to work ./configure
[04:32] <mark_skinner> wine better?
[04:32] <ale_> :D
[04:33] <_jason> ale_: cool
[04:33] <Delvien> mark_skinner Horde on Mal'ganis !
[04:33] <ale_> thank you!
[04:33] <Zoder2> hey can someone help me get my cmedia 9880 (azalia) line in and mic ins to work? i tried alsa and im using oss (alsa doesnt support my cards full duplex mode)
[04:33] <Madpilot> mark_skinner, those will be inside the tar.bzip2 file
[04:33] <kybishop> try wine before cedega, no sense paying for what's free
[04:33] <nickrud> Madpilot: 50 years old, the 5 year release!, the 4/20 everyone here is thinking of, shicklegruber, etc.
[04:33] <pudland> !gspy
[04:33] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pudland
[04:33] <ale_> hello world
[04:33] <_jason> ale_: :)
[04:33] <Delvien> mark_skinner well i have no lag in wine , but no text  over peoples heads hehe :P
[04:33] <ale_> says now
[04:33] <kybishop> hehe
[04:33] <Madpilot> nickrud, ah - never mind :P
[04:33] <ale_> you same my life! Lol
[04:33] <ale_> thanks man!
[04:34] <mark_skinner> dug into it    its   il8n/.svn directory.. clear as mud :)
[04:34] <_jason> ale_: yep, have fun compiling
[04:34] <nickrud> Madpilot: good idea.
[04:34] <Delvien> dmark_skinner what?
[04:34] <ale_> thanks!
[04:35] <ale_> the big problem is fixed thanks you!
[04:35] <Delvien> mark_skinner what does that mean
[04:35] <Mantice> Man im so sad :( my ati drivers are broken and I cant fix them
[04:35] <Mantice> Xserver crashes all the time :(
[04:36] <bosco> so how do i play mp3;s in xmms
[04:36] <mark_skinner> sorry.. im a bit new... how would one  install that easyubutu tar.bzip file?  i still cand find a ./configure or INSTALL inside it
[04:36] <IdleOne> w32codecs
[04:36] <pudland> mantice, did you try the binaryATI how to at wiki.ubuntu.com?
[04:36] <Mantice> Yes
[04:36] <Crshman> can i connect to a windows share using nfs or only smbfs?
[04:36] <mark_skinner> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/EasyUbuntu-latest.tar.bz2    got it from here
[04:36] <bosco> IdleOne, you said with
[04:36] <pudland> mantice, how are they broken?
[04:36] <_jason> mark_skinner: just run ./easyubuntu.py (I think it needs sudo)
[04:36] <Mantice> Ive tryed both ways apparently the ati.com way is broken :(
[04:37] <IdleOne> !tell bosco  about w32codecs
[04:37] <mark_skinner> ahh.. python... csh on steroids?
[04:37] <_jason> ha
[04:37] <pudland> mantice, i just used it 2 days ago
[04:37] <pudland> mantice, i went from 170fps to 2000+
[04:37] <Delvien> Anyone help me with a wine+ WOW problem?
[04:37] <meheren> does anyone no how to get a "domain name" for a server like www.foo.com....
[04:37] <Mantice> my computer gets 10 fps on the ant screensaver
[04:37] <Mantice> What ubuntu do you use
[04:38] <Mantice> because i think my breasy is broken :(
[04:38] <Delvien> who are you talking to Mantice
[04:38] <pudland> mantice, paste your glxinfo
[04:38] <theplateau> how do i use dpkg to install a deb file
[04:38] <_jason> !deb
[04:38] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[04:38] <Mantice> Sorry im new at this
[04:38] <mark_skinner> ty  jason    this worked           ....................   mskinner@ubuntu:~/easyubuntu$ sudo ./easyubuntu.py
[04:38] <theplateau> ty
[04:38] <Mantice> ok
[04:38] <Mantice> i got it
[04:38] <pudland> mantice, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:38] <Mantice> hold on
[04:38] <Crshman> can i connect to a windows share using nfs or only smbfs?
[04:38] <Delvien> WINdows ! burn it !
[04:39] <Jsm> Can any one help me, im trying to install GCC but im not 100% how
[04:39] <defendguin> has their been any discussion which way ubuntu is leaning in the direction of either xgl or aiglx?
[04:39] <Crshman> i'm workign on it haha
[04:39] <_jason> mark_skinner: yeah, I've asked robotgeek to include a readme but I guess he hasn't gotten to it.  The actual release should be a .deb that will install a launcher and such
[04:39] <Madpilot> Jsm, get "build-essential"
[04:39] <Mantice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9404
[04:39] <IdleOne> Jsm:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:39] <ale_> i have one more problem :(
[04:39] <_jason> ale_: uh oh, what is it?
[04:39] <ale_> i can install gij (required to install open office
[04:39] <Jsm> Madpilot im a bit confuesd by that ;)
[04:40] <_jason> ale_: what does it say and what is the full package name?
[04:40] <ale_> gcj-dbtool-4.0: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgcj.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZN4java5beans11beancontext18BeanContextSupport19'etResourceAsStreamEPNS_4lang6StringEPNS1_16BeanContextChildE
[04:40] <ale_> dpkg: error al procesar gij-4.0 (--configure):
[04:40] <pudland> mantice, see whre it says "mesa...." towards the bottom?
[04:40] <IdleOne> !tell Jsm  about cli
[04:40] <Madpilot> Jsm, open Synaptic & search for the build-essential package, it'll get everything you need
[04:40] <ale_> is a dependencis gij and gij 4.0
[04:40] <tagabasak> hi guys is it possible that i can install i tunes on my ubuntu?
[04:41] <Madpilot> ale_, please don't paste to the channel like that
[04:41] <pudland> mantice, what ati card do you have?
[04:41] <Mantice> Yeah
[04:41] <ale_> sorry...
[04:41] <pudland> mantice, what ati card do you have?
[04:41] <mark_skinner> if you don't use Cedega..  which  Wine are you using?   winehq?  some wine.deb?
[04:41] <JWMalaya> ale_: need help on JDB?
[04:41] <_jason> ale_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgcj6, (guessing)
[04:42] <ale_> here we go..
[04:42] <Mantice> r9600 xt pro 256
[04:43] <pudland> mantice, click on my name to open a dialog box
[04:43] <pudland> mantice, type in that
[04:44] <pudland> mantice, im going to walk you through the how-to, you must have missed the last step
[04:44] <JWMalaya> ATi radeon problem, aren't there any wiki for that?
[04:44] <Mantice> Ok
[04:44] <Mantice> Can you accept dcc chat list
[04:44] <Mantice> My irc dont open up a new window
[04:44] <bosco> WOW #1's - Disc2 - 15 - Audio Adrenaline - Big House.mp3
[04:44] <bosco>  how do i go about playing this file
[04:44] <pudland> mantice, right click on my name
[04:45] <Jsm> Madpilot, thanks i got it working
[04:45] <Madpilot> Jsm, cool
[04:45] <Mantice> Done
[04:45] <ale_> jason thank again
[04:45] <ale_> now all is fixed!
[04:45] <JWMalaya> the name build-essential is really... misleading
[04:45] <_jason> ale_: cool
[04:45] <pudland> mantice, wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <koloa> hi
[04:46] <pudland> mantice, search "ATI"
[04:46] <ale_> yeah, finally i have my ubuntu 100 % working
[04:46] <Mantice> I have it open allready
[04:46] <koloa> anyone here familiar with ruby on rails?
[04:46] <pudland> kk
[04:46] <JWMalaya> Rack, koloa?
[04:47] <Mantice> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:47] <Madpilot> JWMalaya, it's the stuff that essential to building packages - but something like "compling-essentials" might be better
[04:47] <koloa> ruby on rails?
[04:47] <Mantice> I guess the dialog box is broken :(
[04:47] <koloa> i am having trouble running the scaffold command
[04:47] <pudland> mantice, follow the ATI driver section and read the last para before the "notes" section
[04:47] <Madpilot> koloa, try #rubyonrails
[04:48] <koloa> thanks
[04:48] <Jsm> Ok next problem lol, I want to work on my site and come across a slight problem, on windows (dont tell me to burn it its usefull) i can just use ftp://user:pw@domain.com and get ftp and iv noticed their isnt a thing like that in ubuntu so is their a good FTP client?
[04:48] <koloa> ok im noob
[04:48] <koloa> can i type /join rubyonrails or something?
[04:48] <Mantice> ?
[04:49] <Jsm> its /join #rubyonrails
[04:49] <koloa> opps,,,thanks. lol
[04:49] <pudland> mantice, When you install from ati.com drivers or the breezy-seveas repository, you still need to change xorg.conf and add the fglrx module to /etc/modules as described under "Ubuntu provided drivers".
[04:49] <bimberi> Jsm: Nautilus, the file manager (Places -> Connect to Server)
[04:49] <Mantice> I did add the fglrx module
[04:49] <pudland> mantice, step 3 and 4 under"Ubuntu provided drivers".
[04:50] <Mantice> And then Xserver crashes
[04:50] <SkippyX> OK - copying files from /home/user to another hdd. Backing up in preparation for a fresh install of ubuntu. been using mdk 9.2. Once I've got ubuntu installed, can I download KDE and have the same versatility of having KDE & Gnome that I've become accustomed to having? is it as simple as "apt-get install KDE"?
[04:50] <waldo> hey...  i'm thinkin gof moving to ubuntu... what version of GNOME does it use?
[04:50] <bimberi> SkippyX: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:50] <interferon> is there any way to restart an eth0 connection without the Network Manager?
[04:50] <JRGC> Please, someone help me, my kdm doesn't want to start
[04:50] <Mantice> I do that and I restart and Xserver comes up and says xserver could not start and I have to type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:50] <waldo> on install CD?    Hoary Hedgehog site suggests 2.10 but that seems pretty old
[04:50] <ale_> kubuntu desktop is more complete
[04:51] <ale_> have many things
[04:51] <_jason> waldo: breezy uses 2.12
[04:51] <Mantice> then pick the ATi driver and type startx to make it boot again
[04:51] <SkippyX> bimberi, Outstanding. i'll have to tote my box over to a friend's house and tie into his DSL. I'm on dial-up.
[04:51] <pudland> mantice, not "ati" you must select fglrx"
[04:51] <bimberi> SkippyX: once that is installed you can choose Gnome or KDE from the Session menu of the login screen
[04:51] <waldo> _jason: why does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryGoals say 2.10?  weird.
[04:51] <bimberi> SkippyX: that would be a very good idea :P
[04:51] <SkippyX> That's precisely what I was hoping to accomplish.
[04:52] <mediatedthought> What is the command to assign a specific MAC address to an IP?
[04:52] <Mantice> After xserver has crashed?
[04:52] <Madpilot> waldo, that's an out of date page - the current version is Breezy Badger (5.10) and uses Gnome 2.12.x
[04:52] <Jsm> you cant assing mac's
[04:52] <Mantice> I select fglrx drivers restart and xserver crashes
[04:52] <_jason> waldo: I said breezy, not hoary :)
[04:52] <waldo> Madpilot: oh, I thought hoary was the next version..
[04:52] <JWMalaya> the package xorg-server-fglrx?
[04:52] <Mantice> so i have to pick the ati drivers to get ubuntu runing again :(
[04:52] <SkippyX> bimberi, I suppose I could always try it on dial-up, and hope that I'm not booted  by my ISP....and tie up my phone line for the next 6 weeks......
[04:52] <waldo> _jason: I thought hoary was the version that's in beta now
[04:52] <Madpilot> waldo, Dapper is the next version
[04:52] <_jason> waldo: warty < hoary < breezy < dapper(development)
[04:52] <pudland> mantice, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and use fglrx instead
[04:53] <waldo> ahh!
[04:53] <Mantice> oh and btw I have put this in modules echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[04:53] <waldo> thanks guys
[04:53] <SkippyX> at leastI wouldn't have to worry about phone callls from the ex-girlfriend
[04:53] <JWMalaya> just installed it yesterday, work fine with all the GL's games and screensaver
[04:53] <ale_> is dapper drake valdo
[04:53] <bimberi> SkippyX: lol
[04:53] <_jason> waldo: don't worry they go in abc order from now on :)
[04:53] <ale_> the new "beta" version
[04:53] <waldo> ale_: thanks
[04:53] <JWMalaya> even The TV's working fine
[04:53] <Mantice> brb
[04:53] <Madpilot> waldo, look at the version numbers - they're Year.Month, so Hoary was 5.04 (2005/04), Breezy is 5.10, Dapper will be 6.04
[04:53] <pudland> mantice, paste your xorg.conf
[04:53] <waldo> _jason: oh so the next will be "e" ?  Cool
[04:53] <ale_> no problem
[04:54] <bimberi> SkippyX: one of the beauties of apt is that if the downloading gets interrupted, it resumes when you retry
[04:54] <ale_> seams to be great dapper is really fast (i only test a couple of weeks)
[04:54] <ale_> and they have many great features
[04:54] <SkippyX> bimberi, apt is one of the main reasons I'm looking @ switching from mdk to ubuntu. I wanted a debian-based distro. and mdk 9.2 is old, and growing moss as we speak.
[04:55] <rg> Does it someone from brazil
[04:55] <Mantice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9405
[04:55] <SkippyX> I was thinking about simplyMEPIS, but went w/ ubuntu instead.
[04:55] <_jason> !br
[04:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:55] <JWMalaya> i hint/// Ubuntu official release cycle = 6 month... version YY.MM :)
[04:55] <ale_> argentina gear
[04:55] <ale_> hear*
[04:55] <diode> how do i install xvattr to fix the blue border issues of an nvidia cards tv-out?
[04:55] <zx8> i am installing america amrmy for linux has anyone tried this?
[04:56] <JWMalaya> the online game?
[04:56] <pudland> mantice, so fglrx crashes x but not ati?
[04:56] <Madpilot> zx8, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy
[04:56] <Mantice> yeah
[04:57] <redrevolution> online game
[04:57] <Mantice> when i restart it comes up with a blue screen
[04:57] <Mantice> and funny letters
[04:57] <execve> windows?
[04:57] <redrevolution> linux
[04:57] <Mantice> Ati is the only way i can make it work
[04:57] <Mantice> brb
[04:57] <SkippyX> Sheesh - once I'm done w/ the swap, I've an 80 gig drive I plan to install (50 gigs fat32, 30 gigs as a Win xp install for games)....
[04:57] <Madpilot> execve, there's a Linux version of AA too
[04:57] <ale_> ubuntu-es is the spanish channel?
[04:57] <Mantice> ill see if i can take some pictures with a camera
[04:57] <SkippyX> Linux isn't a gaming system....from what I've seen.....but there are all kinds of games for windoze.....
[04:57] <pudland> mantice, did you put in the right monitor sync rates
[04:57] <IdleOne> ale_:  yes
[04:58] <pudland> kk
[04:58] <ale_> thanks!
[04:58] <redrevolution> how use cedega?
[04:58] <Madpilot> redrevolution, try #cedega
[04:58] <IdleOne> should I bother installing kubuntu-desktop on my old machine?
[04:58] <redrevolution> oops;;
[04:58] <Madpilot> IdleOne, how old?
[04:58] <Jsm> theirs a mario clone game witch is good but i cant rember the name i used it when i used suse
[04:58] <Mantice> i thought my lcd could handle 60 hrz easy was
[04:58] <IdleOne> P2 233mhz old
[04:59] <frank23> Jsm supertux?
[04:59] <Mantice> it works in 70 in windows
[04:59] <Mantice> its a lcd
[04:59] <godmachine81> there are tons of arcade games for linux
[04:59] <SkippyX> k - I'm off.
[04:59] <pudland> mantice, mine is at 75Hz
[04:59] <IdleOne> Madpilot:   P2 233mhz old
[04:59] <Francisco> how can I empty my trash like root
[04:59] <Francisco> ??
[04:59] <Francisco> ??
[04:59] <godmachine81> there is a package that contains all the arcade game classics
[04:59] <godmachine81> if you want i can find what it is
[04:59] <Francisco> somebody can help me??
[04:59] <Mantice> i dident knew it mattered
[05:00] <pudland> mantice, i think your syncs are off
[05:00] <Mantice> syncs?
[05:00] <Madpilot> IdleOne, KDE will be slower than Gnome is for you - your call if that'll be survivable :P
[05:00] <Jsm> Supertux, thats the one any one know where i can get it ?
[05:00] <Mantice> ill reconfgure now
[05:00] <pudland> mantice, look at your xorg.conf
[05:00] <_jason> !info supertux
[05:00] <ubotu> supertux: (Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.1.2-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[05:00] <godmachine81> KDE sux.. i hate the widgets in it too..
[05:00] <IdleOne> Madpilot:  k then thats is that
[05:00] <godmachine81> KDE is too windowish
[05:00] <JWMalaya> just apt-get install supertux :)
[05:00] <ale_> francisco ask
[05:00] <kybishop> is sndconfig compatible with ubuntu, or is there a similar program that is
[05:00] <_jason> Jsm: have you enabled universe?
[05:00] <JWMalaya> KDE is too CDEish
[05:00] <ale_> someone for sure can help you
[05:00] <Francisco> ale_, I wanna empty my trash like root
[05:00] <resueman> hey guys im on amd64 i got flash and java working as per the wiki.. just need some help on streaming video anyone????? thanks
[05:00] <Jsm> _Jason yes i have
[05:01] <pudland> mantice, "monitor" section
[05:01] <GameOver69> anyone good with xchat??? for some reason all my messages appear within the main chat window and not in a seperate tab... how can i switch this back?
[05:01] <_jason> Jsm: then you can use synaptic/apt to install it
[05:01] <JWMalaya> resueman: get gxine plugin instead :)
[05:01] <resueman> for firefox32?
[05:01] <ale_> i dont know if is the good way
[05:01] <JWMalaya> and disable the default totem plguins
[05:01] <Jsm> yay i was missing supertux ;)
[05:01] <ale_> but you can type sudo nautilus to use nautilus as root
[05:01] <Mantice> 43-60 ?
[05:01] <resueman> JWMalaya: fore firefox32
[05:02] <Francisco> ale_, it is for me??
[05:02] <babo> Hi guys, I'm using the php urlencode function from the cli ... but it keeps throwing up T_STRING errors when I try to encode something with a newline in it .. how can I fix this ?
[05:02] <frank23> resueman: I use the mediaplayerconnectivity extension in firefox. it plays everything in an external player
[05:02] <godmachine81> anybody here know how to change the font color of the panels and menus in gnome?
[05:02] <ale_> yes francisco,,,,
[05:02] <meheren> does anyone no of a wya i can access the itunes music store?
[05:02] <pudland> mantice, i'll paste mine
[05:02] <Mantice> ok
[05:02] <meheren> !iTunes
[05:02] <ubotu> [itunes]  a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.
[05:02] <Mantice> im going to edit this file manualy looks easyer
[05:02] <JWMalaya> yeah, what the itune clone eh?
[05:02] <resueman> i just need some help with amd64
[05:02] <JWMalaya> oh sharpmusique :)
[05:03] <_jason> babo: #php channel probably more helpful with that if no one knows here
[05:03] <resueman> i tried copying the plugins from the 64  bit version but they didnt load
[05:03] <Francisco> ale_, just I wanna empty my trash..
[05:03] <_jason> Francisco: right click > empty trash?
[05:03] <babo> _jason# thanks - the php channel doesn't seem to know either ... ah, well
[05:03] <JWMalaya> resueman: 32bit plugin for 32bit browser, 64bit plugin is for 64bit browsers :)
[05:03] <_jason> babo: ha, time to google and search docs :)
[05:03] <JRGC> How can I reinstall kde? I lost elect. power while upgrading and kde doesn't start
[05:04] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get install kde
[05:04] <JRGC> But the apt-tool says everything is installed
[05:04] <JWMalaya> JRGC: just do apt-get --reinstall kde
[05:04] <irvs10tz> what p2p can i use with linux??????
[05:04] <Francisco> _jason, I have some files needs superuser
[05:04] <meheren> it syas it can't find the package sharpmusique...
[05:04] <JWMalaya> JRGC: just do apt-get -f --reinstall kde
[05:04] <resueman> JWM: got  a link?
[05:04] <_jason> babo: what command are you using?
[05:04] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde
[05:04] <pudland> mantice, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9406 hmmm, my sync is about the same
[05:04] <meheren> !iTunes
[05:04] <ubotu> from memory, itunes is a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.
[05:04] <JWMalaya> resueman: it's all on the ubuntu package site
[05:04] <ale_> but you dont need to be root to empty your trash
[05:04] <_jason> Francisco: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.Trash, then try again
[05:05] <Mantice> so its fine ?
[05:05] <JRGC> JWMalaya:  That doesn't seem to work
[05:05] <pudland> mantice, did you dl the right installer for your system?
[05:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell irvs10tz about p2p
[05:05] <Francisco> _jason, ok ok but in user wich one user root or mine.?
[05:05] <Mantice> Yep
[05:05] <_jason> Francisco: yours, not root
[05:05] <resueman> JWMalaya, thanks
[05:06] <Mantice> Your installing it the other way than the Ati.com way i tryed
[05:06] <ale_> well i have to go,,thanks again jason!
[05:06] <IdleOne> Madpilot:  I opted to give kde a try heh will se what happens
[05:06] <JRGC> JWMalaya:  It says operation not valid!
[05:06] <Mantice> Im on a 64 bit btw
[05:06] <ale_> goodnight! cheers!
[05:06] <_jason> ale_: night
[05:06] <pudland> mantice, i followed the wiki how to to isatll the ati driver
[05:06] <JWMalaya> sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde >> JRGC :)
[05:07] <Mantice> whats wrong with my one then
[05:07] <setuid> How do I regenerate the font cache?
[05:07] <Francisco> _jason, it say. It can be named like user of group-
[05:07] <setuid> I just installed xfonts-artwiz, and none of the fonts seem to work
[05:07] <zx8> jesus the america's army installer is SlOW
[05:07] <_jason> Francisco: huh?
[05:07] <setuid> $ xterm -fn lime
[05:07] <setuid> xterm:  unable to open font "lime", trying "fixed"....
[05:07] <JRGC> JWMalaya:  It doesn't work!
[05:07] <JRGC> It says that --reinstall is not known
[05:07] <GameOver69> anyone good with xchat??? for some reason all my messages appear within the main chat window and not in a seperate tab... how can i switch this back?
[05:07] <JWMalaya> zx8: don't complaint about third party installer :)
[05:07] <_jason> Francisco: put what you typed and what it said on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[05:07] <pudland> mantice, when you reconfigure xorg do you go through all the steps?
[05:07] <JRGC> JWMalaya:  It says that reinstall is not known
[05:07] <meheren> does anyone no the command for making .debs?
[05:08] <IdleOne> GameOver69:  go to Settings > preferences and set it there
[05:08] <Mantice> no i push esc now because Ive done it so many times :(
[05:08] <GameOver69> i did
[05:08] <zx8> just making an obersvation dude
[05:08] <GameOver69> it doesntw ork
[05:08] <meheren> i got the source for the .deb how do i make it?
[05:08] <IdleOne> restart xchat
[05:08] <setuid> Anyone know?
[05:08] <GameOver69> i did
[05:08] <GameOver69> do you know what option it is
[05:08] <pudland> mantice, have you gone through the whole thing ever?
[05:09] <Mantice> yes
[05:09] <meheren> does anyone no a program that can make/modify .deb packages?
[05:09] <Mantice> PCI:1:0:0____
[05:09] <narcisolema> hi all
[05:09] <meheren> *create/modify
[05:09] <GameOver69> IdleOne, can u tell me which option it is
[05:09] <narcisolema> anyone can help me with j2ee sun app server installation
[05:09] <meheren> !.deb
[05:09] <ubotu> meheren: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:09] <Crshman> my wireless connection is very slow and smbfs mounts always time out, i look at ifconfig and there seems to be many rx errors....any ideas?
[05:09] <resueman> JWMalaya: mozplugger is the one i want right?
[05:09] <narcisolema> anyone can help me with j2ee sun app server installation
[05:09] <narcisolema> anyone can help me with j2ee sun app server installation?
[05:09] <meheren> !debian package
[05:09] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, meheren
[05:10] <_jason> Francisco: you didn't put what you typed
[05:10] <setuid> Crshman, Switch your AP to a different channel, not 6 or 11
[05:10] <meheren> arrg
[05:10] <Crshman> it was on 7 so i put it to 9
[05:10] <pudland> mantice, im at a loss, the other guy had a 9800 se and it was good
[05:10] <IdleOne> GameOver69:  I cant seem to find it right now but its in there
[05:10] <Mantice> ok brb
[05:10] <tsipper> what is the linux equivalent of visual studio? It's a really big program and the name escapes.
[05:10] <Mantice> im going to restart
[05:11] <Mantice> do I have to restart or can i ctrl alt back
[05:11] <JWMalaya> narcisolema: J2EE? dude, this is really about Ubuntu GNU/Linux...
[05:11] <pudland> mantice, is you res to high
[05:11] <JWMalaya> narcisolema: try netbeans :)
[05:11] <Francisco> sudo chown -R $fromeroc:$fromeroc ~/.Trash
[05:11] <IdleOne> GameOver69:  try #xchat they might be able to help more
[05:11] <Mantice> no
[05:11] <frank23> tsipper: eclipse?
[05:11] <GameOver69> IdleOne, i tried
[05:11] <GameOver69> no one is answering
[05:11] <pudland> restart
[05:11] <_jason> Francisco: get rid of both of the $
[05:11] <GameOver69> i didnt do anything all of a sudden this happened
[05:11] <tsipper> frank23, I don't think that is it, but I am going to google that. I believe it began with an "m"
[05:11] <koloa> anyone know where or how i can d/l some cool theme?
[05:11] <koloa> ubuntu rocks!
[05:11] <IdleOne> GameOver69:  life happens heh
[05:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell koloa about themes
[05:12] <JWMalaya> all in one Java-based servers, Tomcat, Jakarta, etc... > narcisolema
[05:12] <narcisolema> JWMalaya: No, i trying to install the j2ee server
[05:12] <JWMalaya> all in one Java-based servers, Tomcat, Jakarta, etc... > narcisolema
[05:12] <setuid> How do I regenerate the font cache? I just installed xfonts-artwiz, and none of the fonts seem to work
[05:12] <IdleOne> GameOver69:  lemme poke around Ill see if I can find it
[05:12] <narcisolema> JWMalaya: i already have tomcat, but tomcat doesnt have ejb engine!
[05:12] <GameOver69> IdleOne, thank u
[05:12] <Crshman> nope still getting a lot of errors and timeouts
[05:12] <_jason> setuid: fc-cache, but I think those fonts are problematic
[05:12] <meheren> wow 624 ppl in here!...
[05:12] <andrei> hey
[05:12] <setuid> _jason, I go through this every time I use artwiz fonts on Debian or Ubuntu
[05:12] <narcisolema> JWMalaya: and the jboss doesnt have a deployment manager via web
[05:12] <Francisco> _jason, continued
[05:13] <setuid> I use the fonts heavily though, the other fonts are MUCH too large
[05:13] <_jason> setuid: yeah I went through it too, I gave up :)
[05:13] <narcisolema> JWMalaya: i need the j2ee sun app server
[05:13] <_jason> Francisco: now right click > empty trash
[05:13] <JWMalaya> narcisolema: it's really about JAva, take on the sun website instead :)
[05:13] <Francisco> the wrong continued
[05:13] <setuid> I eventually get it working, but I forget what steps I take, because I try everything... xset fp rehash, fc-cache, all that.
[05:13] <JWMalaya> however, checkout all the lib*java in ubuntu packages :)
[05:14] <setuid> fscking spammers
[05:14] <_jason> setuid: I think I dpkg-reconfigured <something with fonts> and enabled bitmap fonts to get it to work
[05:14] <lakcaj> narcisolema, hav eyou tried using java-package/make-jpkg?
[05:14] <Francisco> _jason, the wrong continued
[05:14] <IdleOne> GameOver69:  is it possible thats a pluggin that does that..check www.xchat.org
[05:14] <setuid> _jason, Ah, you just reminded me of local.conf and the xorg.conf's path to the artwiz fonts
[05:14] <_jason> Francisco: I don't understand what that means
[05:14] <andrei> im having problems with wmp
[05:14] <narcisolema> well i have download the sjsas_pe-8_2-linux.bin from the java.sun.com/j2ee/downloads
[05:14] <JWMalaya> narcisolema: anyways, I really suggest NEtbeans, it has all your J2EE needs, servers, ejb, jdb, jod...
[05:15] <Francisco> _jason, it didn't work
[05:15] <GameOver69> IdleOne, ill check it out but i dont know what happened
[05:15] <JWMalaya> and youll get a nice IDE too :)
[05:15] <_jason> setuid: you should write a wiki page once you get it to work, that way you won't forget the steps anymore and other people will have an easier tiem :)
[05:15] <_jason> Francisco: what didn't work? the command or the right clicking?
[05:15] <Francisco> right clicking""
[05:15] <IdleOne> GameOver69:  sometimes things happened you may have installed a pluggin that broke another who knows
[05:15] <andrei> why wont windows media player work
[05:15] <narcisolema> JWMalaya: thats its the case if i use my linux to develop, i only need it right now as a server
[05:15] <ia1> anyone playing with Gizmo?
[05:16] <narcisolema> JWMalaya: i will develop in other pc
[05:16] <_jason> Francisco: what does 'ls -ld ~/.Trash/' say?
[05:16] <JRGC> I think mt apt tree is damaged, KDE is not there and I can't install it.
[05:16] <narcisolema> well guys i have download the file and use 'chmod +777 sjsas-8....bin'
[05:16] <JRGC> Please someone help me
[05:16] <Francisco> drwx------  13 fromeroc fromeroc 4096 2006-02-26 22:12 /home/fromeroc/.Trash/
[05:16] <ian_> JRGC: it's not damaged, it's sensible... ;)
[05:16] <JRGC> I have been all day trying to get this working
[05:16] <narcisolema> then during the installation, fall over at 51%!
[05:16] <JWMalaya> ys... Netbeans has integrated your sjsas_pe-8_2-linux.bin + netbeans IDE too
[05:17] <JRGC> ian_:  Yes but I cant install KDE, nor remove it, nor reinstall it.
[05:17] <JRGC> ian_:  It doesn't let me
[05:17] <JWMalaya> aanyways, it's way easier than installing j2ee package from sun alone, narcisolema
[05:17] <_jason> Francisco: it should work :/, anyway do 'sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash/*' I suppose
[05:18] <narcisolema> yes!! i know it but for my need right now i need to install separetly the j2ee sun app
[05:18] <Francisco> _jason, good
[05:18] <JWMalaya> that's I don't really care about, I always do it the easiest way possible imho
[05:18] <_jason> Francisco: works now?
[05:19] <Francisco> _jason, yeah.
[05:19] <_jason> Francisco: k, adios
[05:19] <Francisco> but what did you do?
[05:19] <Francisco> _jason, que hiciste?
[05:19] <JWMalaya> narcisolema: check out Sun website... they have the FAQs for that
[05:19] <_jason> Francisco: it deleted all of the files inside of ~/.Trash recursively
[05:19] <Wolfwood> My Ubuntu installation died...
[05:20] <Wolfwood> The appearance daemon, or something like that, was continually restarting, then I restarted the system and X would not stay running.
[05:20] <Wolfwood> Landed at a text log-in.
[05:21] <JWMalaya> it hasn't died yet
[05:21] <JWMalaya> just your Xconfig sucked somewhere :)
[05:21] <Francisco> _jason, recursiely but it could afect my pc.??
[05:21] <koloa> now themes are more than just a desktop background rtight?
[05:21] <Mantice> It STILL DONT work arrrhhhhhhhhh
[05:21] <pudland> mantice, didnt work
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[05:21] <Mantice> I have some screen shots
[05:21] <Mantice> It just crashed
[05:21] <pudland> bear with me
[05:21] <_jason> Francisco: it just does the same as emptying trash
[05:21] <Wolfwood> Well yeah, as it was restarting itself continuously, the appearance would change between two settings. (Buttons, color, window borders)
[05:21] <pudland> mantice, paste them
[05:21] <Francisco> _jason, so thanks.
[05:22] <_jason> Francisco: NEVER do a command you don't understand from anyone, including me
[05:22] <Wolfwood> It happened while I was adjusting keyboard settings - don't know whether there'd been a connection.
[05:22] <bosco> alright i have the latest codecs    codecs32 for playing mp3s but i cannot seem to be able to play them how do i play them
[05:22] <Francisco> _jason, ok but I'm desperite."
[05:22] <_jason> Francisco: next time ask first, then do :)
[05:22] <Wolfwood> desparate.
[05:22] <Francisco> I'm desperate."
[05:22] <Francisco> lo que sea
[05:22] <Francisco> _jason, gracias.."
[05:22] <bosco> alright i have the latest codecs    codecs32 for playing mp3s but i cannot seem to be able to play them how do i play them
[05:23] <Wolfwood> Ya know, I think Fedora Core is faster on my Mac Mini. My music is ripping plenty faster anyway.
[05:23] <neoliminal> What is needed to get my Gateway Laptop to have it's wireless ethernet working?
[05:23] <Francisco> _jason, see ya.2
[05:23] <JWMalaya> mac mini uses a PowerPC CPU right? then, it should be faster than x86 CPUs
[05:23] <syncopation> I encountered an error on the PreInstall segment of the boot sequence when attempting to run the Live Ubuntu 5.04 on my Mac after executing the command "live-powerpc"
[05:23] <Wolfwood> That'll depend on the x86 in question
[05:24] <Wolfwood> I never did try Ubuntu's live CD.
[05:24] <JRGC> isn't there a way to install the whole KDE at once?
[05:24] <Wolfwood> I've installed it onto a rev. B iMac and this Mini before.
[05:24] <JWMalaya> in general, PowerPC rocks,,, but AMD64 rocks harders yeah
[05:24] <Crshman> i have a great deal of RX errors on my wireless connection, i have tried to change teh channel but that didn't work. any ideas?
[05:24] <JRGC> if I say apt-get install kde-core it doesn't let me
[05:24] <Wolfwood> AMD anything tends to be good these days, no?
[05:24] <JRGC> And kde is not there
[05:25] <JWMalaya> Crshman: maybe its physical?
[05:25] <Wolfwood> If I could get my pirated OSx86 image burned, I'd be trying it out on an AMD-based system that I have.
[05:25] <JWMalaya> radio, bad location?
[05:25] <neoliminal> My ubuntu installation is not recognizing my wireless card onboard my Gateway laptop... any ideas?
[05:25] <Crshman> speeds and latency were fine with windows xp
[05:25] <JWMalaya> neoliminal: what brand/model it is?
[05:25] <Wolfwood> I'd rather have OS X running there than on this Mini.. This system is kind of low-end already for gaming, anyway.
[05:25] <Crshman> i have another computer that uses xp with no latency issues
[05:26] <meheren> is there a music PLAYER that can acces the itunes music store?
[05:26] <bosco> alright i have the latest codecs    codecs32 for playing mp3s but i cannot seem to be able to play them how do i play them
[05:26] <Wolfwood> The only drawback to my AMD system is its built-in video. Uses RAM for VRAM and is only SiS-based
[05:26] <Wolfwood> So once I muster the cash to get a nice AGP card in there, yippee it'll be a fine system
[05:26] <JWMalaya> builtin? I always have separate AGP on ot
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:26] <Mantice> uploading now
[05:26] <JRGC> OK, I got kubuntu-desktop, but then I get the following:
[05:26] <JWMalaya> builtin graphics sucks hard, :)
[05:27] <pudland> mantice, ok
[05:27] <JRGC> Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterf?llte Abh?ngigkeiten:
[05:27] <JRGC>   kubuntu-desktop: H?ngt ab: adept soll aber nicht installiert werden
[05:27] <JRGC>                    H?ngt ab: akode soll aber nicht installiert werden
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> build in video cards can be handy.
[05:27] <JRGC> ......
[05:27] <neoliminal> model number W322
[05:27] <JRGC> The list is long!!
[05:27] <JRGC> Please how can I make this work
[05:27] <JWMalaya> neoliminal: what's the manufacturer?
[05:27] <meheren> is there a music PLAYER that can acces the itunes music store?
[05:27] <neoliminal> Gateway
[05:27] <JWMalaya> JRGC: it's in GErman?
[05:27] <Wolfwood> Yep
[05:27] <Wolfwood> Packets have unfulfilled dependences:
[05:27] <JWMalaya> neoliminal: checkout Gateway website, see if there is any Linux driver for it?
[05:27] <Wolfwood> er, packages
[05:27] <JRGC> JWMalaya:  Yes, is german, it says that some dependencies are not accomplished
[05:28] <JWMalaya> if not try to use ndiswrapper...
[05:28] <Mantice> www.mantice.net/photos/
[05:28] <pudland> mantice, quick ques... did you reboot b4 or after adding module and changing xorg?
[05:28] <neoliminal> JWMalaya... ok
[05:28] <Wolfwood> Dependency: adept can't (?) be installed
[05:28] <Mantice> photos still uploading
[05:28] <IdleOne> !tell meheren  about sharpmusic
[05:28] <Mantice> It said somthing about module failed
[05:28] <JRGC> That they depend on all the big list
[05:28] <Mantice> reboot after
[05:28] <IdleOne> !itunes
[05:28] <ubotu> itunes is, like, a Mac OS/Windows app, but you can use SharpMusique in Linux instead (sudo apt-get install sharpmusique), and it works for all of the same things with the iTunes music store, libraries, etc.
[05:28] <Wolfwood> Is that right, JRGC? adept and akode simply couldn't be installed?
[05:28] <meheren> idleone thx
[05:28] <JWMalaya> comeback if you don't have the linux driver and you want some help on ndiswrapper
[05:28] <JWMalaya> .
[05:28] <Wolfwood> I'm still working on my German
[05:28] <IdleOne> !tell meheren  about sharpmusique
[05:28] <neoliminal> ok
[05:28] <neoliminal> thanks!
[05:29] <JWMalaya> I only can read GErman, not translate it :(
[05:29] <JRGC> Wolfwood:  Well that is just the beginning of the lis!
[05:29] <JRGC> list!
[05:29] <meheren> idleone but sharp musique doesn't play normal songs...
[05:29] <Wolfwood> That's fine, I'm just making sure I have the right translation there
[05:29] <Crshman> is it better to use the linux driver or ndiswrapper driver?
[05:29] <bosco> alright i have the latest codecs    codecs32 for playing mp3s but i cannot seem to be able to play them how do i play them
[05:29] <JRGC> Wolfwood:  Do I have to install all of them one by one?
[05:29] <IdleOne> meheren:  what is a normal song?
[05:29] <Syns> is there anything that will access the microsoft music store?
[05:29] <JWMalaya> linux driver... ndiswrapper for last resort :)
[05:29] <Wolfwood> Never tried Kubuntu, tut mir leid..
[05:29] <odla> bosco: w32codecs not for mp3s  gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3s
[05:29] <pudland> mantice, uhhhm thats not good.  what was actuall fail text
[05:30] <meheren> idleone like one i got off of a cd or one that i already have...
[05:30] <Wolfwood> I've wanted to try it out, but haven't gotten an image burned yet
[05:30] <Crshman> the high wireless latency wouldn't be attributed to bad driver would it?
[05:30] <JWMalaya> anyways, ndiswrapper does not have the drivers... it just wraps around the Windows XP drivers
[05:30] <Wolfwood> And I like my iMac as it is now with OS 9.2.2 on it.
[05:30] <Wolfwood> And I'm enjoying FC 4 on the Mini at the moment
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> heh
[05:30] <Mantice> I have photos
[05:30] <Mantice> they are just loading
[05:30] <Mantice> uploading now
[05:30] <rAn> hello, have a linux question: How do I test if a text file has unix or dos formating (line break)?
[05:30] <pudland> mantice, ok
[05:30] <JWMalaya> bosco: if you're still unsure, just install ALL the gstreamer plugins... :)
[05:31] <Wolfwood> You have photos.. I have photos! What a coinkidink!
[05:31] <Wolfwood> j/k ...
[05:31] <Mantice> first one done
[05:31] <JWMalaya> rAn: open in it in any linux text editor...
[05:31] <andrei> why wont quicktime wirj
[05:31] <andrei> *work
[05:31] <aaronshaf> What's a good HTML WYSIWYG for linux?
[05:31] <JWMalaya> if it has some block character, than it's DOS formatted
[05:31] <JWMalaya> aaronshaf: nvu!
[05:32] <Mantice> look at photo 3 , 4 , 5 and 4 and 5 are uploading
[05:32] <rAn> JWMalaya: they see fine in Gedit and also using less.
[05:32] <JWMalaya> then, it's UNIX formatted
[05:33] <JWMalaya> !nvu
[05:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[05:33] <andrei> pleaze help me
[05:33] <JWMalaya> there you go aaronshaf
[05:33] <Mantice> 4 done
[05:33] <monduntu> need help with samba , I can't access windows network , but I can access my ubuntu share using my windows desktop....
[05:33] <setuid> _jason: Nope, no luck
[05:33] <Mantice> last one will be there in a min
[05:33] <setuid> So weird...
[05:33] <pudland> mantice, see one prob, brb
[05:33] <rAn> JWMalaya: Ok. I thought that was why a commp is not working, but it seems both files being compared are unix text
[05:33] <meheren> is there a music PLAYER that i can use for the itunes music store?
[05:33] <JWMalaya> andrei: quicktime: plugin?
[05:33] <setuid> $ xterm -fn -artwiz-cure-medium-r-normal-*-*-110-*-*-p-*-microsoft-cp1251
[05:33] <setuid> xterm:  unable to open font "-artwiz-cure-medium-r-normal-*-*-110-*-*-p-*-microsoft-cp1251", trying "fixed"....
[05:33] <setuid> bleh
[05:33] <JWMalaya> !quicktime
[05:33] <ubotu> well, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[05:34] <god> sup
[05:34] <mikebot> does itunes work in ubuntu?
[05:34] <odla> setuid: please don't paste
[05:34] <JWMalaya> andrei
[05:34] <setuid> odla: It was 2 lines
[05:34] <odla> mikebot: with crossoffice
[05:34] <setuid> Don't lecture me
[05:34] <god> when u install linux as a server\
[05:34] <god> is there a GUI?
[05:34] <Crshman> in ifconif what is "frame:" ?
[05:34] <mikebot> odla: what is crossoffice?
[05:34] <setuid> god: depends if you choos eto
[05:34] <Wolfwood> How on earth would you find an iTunes for Ubuntu? Wine?
[05:34] <bimberi> rAn: 'head <file> | od -bc'  <-  if there are only \n (012) at the linebreaks then it is unix formatted. If it's DOS it will have \r (015) as well
[05:34] <god> when i ran the ubuntoo install\
[05:34] <god> i choose server
[05:35] <god> and it just gave me a command prompt
[05:35] <bimberi> god: server doesn't install the gui
[05:35] <setuid> god: right
[05:35] <mikebot> god: is your name purposfully uncapitalized?
[05:35] <JWMalaya> CRLF characters. it could be shown as blocks... if you use UNIX-based editors
[05:35] <Toma-> Wolfwood, itunes runs on linux, via crossover office and/or wine
[05:35] <Toma-> Wolfwood, but banshee does the job well.
[05:35] <god> yes, why?
[05:35] <Toma-> !info banshee
[05:35] <setuid> mikebot: Depends if he's "a" god, or "the" god, I guess
[05:35] <JWMalaya> god, it should be like that, if you choose default "server" installation
[05:35] <ubotu> banshee: (Audio Managment and Playback application), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.9.7.1+cvs20051004+revertedto0.9.7.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 561 kB, Installed size: 1408 kB
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> FTE is a good editor that can show all sorts of CR/LF and oher chars. :P
[05:35] <setuid> ;)
[05:35] <pudland> mantice, see 2 prob. brb
[05:35] <mikebot> god: curious
[05:35] <setuid> If you believe in that sort of thing, of course
[05:35] <god> i'm ot a god
[05:35] <mikebot> setuid: i guess you're right
[05:35] <god> i just choose it for a username
[05:35] <Mantice> Yay :)
[05:35] <god> cause i feel i'm god of my lan
[05:35] <god> that's all
[05:36] <mikebot> hehe
[05:36] <god> faster to type then administrator
[05:36] <mikebot> does anyone know what crossoffice is>?
[05:36] <odla> mikebot: yes
[05:36] <setuid> mikebot: CrossOver Office
[05:36] <setuid> Google it
[05:36] <mikebot> okay thanks
[05:36] <god> ok so how would i get a GUI when i do a server install?
[05:36] <andrei> yes the quicktime plugin
[05:36] <andrei> it wont work
[05:36] <andrei> mikebot
[05:36] <god> also are there any drivers for SATA RAID?
[05:36] <bimberi> god: if you want the full ubuntu gui - install ubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <andrei> setuid
[05:36] <mikebot> andrei: yes?
[05:36] <setuid> god: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:37] <andrei> hi
[05:37] <setuid> andrei: Yes?
[05:37] <mikebot> hello
[05:37] <god> oh ok is there a big difffrence between server and desktop?
[05:37] <god> as far as services
[05:37] <JWMalaya> !quicktime
[05:37] <ubotu> it has been said that quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[05:37] <setuid> god: about 1,000 packages
[05:37] <jetscreamer> why would you
[05:37] <god> i want to setup my linux box for web services and DNS and stuff
[05:37] <andrei> omg
[05:37] <JWMalaya> andrei: take a look at ubotu!@
[05:37] <setuid> god: don't install graphical stuff on servers
[05:37] <andrei> nothing there jwmalaya
[05:37] <god> how about someone pint me in a direction for reading materials
[05:37] <JWMalaya> not recommended really
[05:37] <god> and i'll get staered
[05:37] <odla> god: well that's a hard irc nick to live up to
[05:37] <god> strarted*
[05:37] <god> ugh\
[05:38] <god> hate this keyboard
[05:38] <god> sorry
[05:38] <god> point*\
[05:38] <JWMalaya> andrei, configure apt-get and next 'sudo apt-get install libquicktime1' :P
[05:38] <bimberi> a real god wouldn't blame the equipment :P
[05:38] <mikebot> wait so is CrossOver Office imitation programs, or like an emulator for those windows programs?
[05:38] <god> and thanks this room has always been very helpfull
[05:38] <setuid> mikebot: Its a commercial, modiified wine
[05:38] <odla> mikebot: crossover office is similiar to wine but commerical
[05:38] <pudland> mantice, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9408
[05:38] <JWMalaya> why you need emulators for windows programs in the first placE?
[05:38] <mikebot> i don't know what wine is either
[05:38] <god> so if i install server i have diffrent services availble then the desktop install
[05:39] <mikebot> i just decided to get ubuntu 3 hours ago
[05:39] <odla> JWMalaya: cause this isn't windows ;)
[05:39] <JWMalaya> just windows to Run windows app, for Bill's sake
[05:39] <mikebot> never used linux beofre/know anything about it
[05:39] <pudland> mantice, do you know how to comment out lines
[05:39] <god> i undestand that, however is all configuration done via command line?
[05:39] <IdleOne> !tell mikebot  about wine
[05:39] <odla> oh that wasn't your question sorry
[05:39] <JWMalaya> if you like 100% windows app, use Windows :)
[05:39] <andrei> how do i install half life 2
[05:39] <odla> andrei: use cedega
[05:39] <mikebot> heh thanks
[05:39] <andrei> whats that
[05:39] <odla> !tell andrei about cedega
[05:39] <bimberi> god: i think the difference is mostly gui applications, so the 'services' would be basically the same
[05:39] <LeoToothpick> hELLo Room
[05:39] <Wolfwood> Confirmed, since Rhythmbox is now playing a song while I import more songs - Ubuntu was getting me just over 3x for music ripping, Fedora Core just over 5x. On my PowerPC
[05:39] <Mantice> no
[05:40] <koloa> what is that download that display weather on the deaktop?
[05:40] <LeoToothpick> does anybody know how i can access my thumb drive thru terminal
[05:40] <odla> andrei: see message from ubotu
[05:40] <andrei> iight thanx yo
[05:40] <mikebot> oh but CrossOver Office requires money
[05:40] <Wolfwood> andrei, where you from?
[05:40] <god> ty bimberi
[05:40] <god> that was helpful
[05:40] <odla> mikebot: you can always find it on the internet using bittorrent
[05:40] <koloa> anyone?
[05:40] <Wolfwood> de unde sunteti?
[05:40] <JWMalaya> takes, OpenOffice for OO;s sake
[05:40] <bimberi> koloa: no download, right-click on panel, add to panel, weather report
[05:40] <mikebot> ah okay
[05:41] <andrei> im from moscow
[05:41] <god> i know some of you have been using linux for awhile, but i just recently started messing with it
[05:41] <Wolfwood> Ah, ok
[05:41] <Wolfwood> Dobri
[05:41] <god> and for me to get this far after only being use to windows
[05:41] <mikebot> odla: iw asn't sure if that kind of thing was looked poorly upon here
[05:41] <bimberi> god: np :) - hopefully i'll go to heaven :P
[05:41] <JWMalaya> great... G.O.D :)
[05:41] <Wolfwood> I want to learn Russian, but haven't really gotten there yet
[05:41] <god> i think is pretty good
[05:41] <pudland> mantice, add a # then a "space" before the line it syays to in the paste
[05:41] <andrei> lol
[05:41] <odla> mikebot: it's certainly not advocated
[05:41] <andrei> its easy
[05:41] <JWMalaya> I never used linux before, I was on Solaris and HP/UX
[05:41] <Wolfwood> But I thought your name looked Slavic in spelling.
[05:41] <mikebot> okay
[05:41] <andrei> yea
[05:41] <LeoToothpick> nobody knows???
[05:41] <god> for more then one processor is ubuntu still my best linux disro?
[05:41] <Wolfwood> I've thought about expatirating to Russia some day, hehe
[05:41] <god> or should i use slack?
[05:41] <odla> mikebot: but people do tons of different things with ubuntu :)  try www.piratesbay.org or www.isohunt.com
[05:42] <mikebot> hehe okay
[05:42] <JWMalaya> LeoToothpick: first cat /proc/usb*
[05:42] <odla> ;)
[05:42] <andrei> americans are so ignorant about russia
[05:42] <bimberi> god: ubuntu has SMP kernels available
[05:42] <Wolfwood> I'm curious about the Russian Federation. How it's run, how it compares to the broken democracies of the West
[05:42] <mikebot> my current connection doesn't allow torrenting
[05:42] <JWMalaya> then mount the device listed somwhere :)
[05:42] <Wolfwood> Yep
[05:42] <JWMalaya> andrei: not Americans :)
[05:42] <odla> andrei: hey i'm not ignorant about russia
[05:42] <god> yeah, are they installed default or is there someplace i can go to enable that?
[05:42] <andrei> well most americans, anyway
[05:42] <god> just look it up in synapt?
[05:42] <andrei> !tell god about irc
[05:42] <Wolfwood> I'm ignorant about Russia, aside from what Dostoyevsky has taught me :D
[05:43] <koloa> bimberi: but somepeople have it on the desktop, not in panel? any ideas?
[05:43] <Gopher> ta mere est une grande chienne
[05:43] <Gamer> how can i host a file on a ftp server?
[05:43] <bimberi> god: they're not on the CD, but you should see linux-686-smp (for example) in synaptic
[05:43] <Wolfwood> Eww, Franzoesisch
[05:43] <LeoToothpick> c pas sympa ca gopher
[05:43] <Gamer> or whats a easy client i can use to host a file?
[05:43] <god> ohh ok thank u
[05:43] <IdleOne> Gopher:  si tu vuet insulter le monde fais le dans #ubntu-fr
[05:43] <Boelcke> Hi. Anyone have a second to answer a simple-ish question?  I've just installed doomlegacy-x11 with Synaptic, but now I can't see where to run it! I presume there's a file somewhere I can run.  With other installed games, I've been able to just type its name in at the command line...
[05:43] <bimberi> koloa: not sure sorry, could it be a gdesklet perhaps
[05:43] <andrei> whos dostoyevsky
[05:43] <bimberi> ?
[05:43] <JWMalaya> parlez francais?
[05:43] <Mantice> so (#	Load	"int10") ?
[05:43] <Wolfwood> Ich hasse Francais
[05:43] <Wolfwood> Klar?
[05:43] <andrei> !tell bimberi about firefox
[05:43] <koloa> is there a get optoin for that?
[05:43] <Mantice> with out the ()
[05:43] <god> i have alot of experience with desktops but this is my first multi processor box
[05:43] <JWMalaya> BoelckeL: checkout the file list in Synaptic :)
[05:43] <god> so it's all wierd acronyms to me
[05:44] <Wolfwood> I've still never had multiple CPUs. I'd like to get a G5 some day though
[05:44] <andrei> !tell god about linux
[05:44] <god> lol
[05:44] <god> my friends talk about linux
[05:44] <andrei> !tell god about monkeys
[05:44] <bimberi> andrei: thanks but ??
[05:44] <god> and i told them i wanted to setup a server hey said this is the bettter route
[05:44] <Mantice> lol
[05:44] <IdleOne> andrei:  dont play with the bot
[05:44] <andrei> sry
[05:44] <andrei> im bored
[05:44] <pudland> mantice, yes, the file isnt "read only" is it
[05:44] <god> to installl linux
[05:45] <Mantice> pudland , this right #	Load	"int10"?
[05:45] <god> monkeys?
[05:45] <andrei> i gtg
[05:45] <god> like king kong?
[05:45] <pudland> mantice, yes
[05:45] <god> lol
[05:45] <andrei> bye
[05:45] <IdleOne> !enter
[05:45] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:45] <Mantice> Nah Im not that much a of a n00bey I can login in sudo :P
[05:45] <Wolfwood> Andrei, is each nation of the Russian Federation pretty independent?
[05:45] <andrei> yes
[05:45] <andrei> wait
[05:45] <Wolfwood> So what does the central government do now?
[05:45] <andrei> there only one
[05:45] <andrei> nation
[05:45] <Wolfwood> Ah
[05:45] <andrei> in russia
[05:45] <Mantice> Now do xorg config thingy ?
[05:45] <pudland> mantice, wasnt suggesting anything :-)
[05:46] <god> lol i think the room just yelled at me
[05:46] <pudland> mantice, ive done it a few times
[05:46] <Mantice> I was a n00b yestoday but these Ati drivers have turned me into a rookey now
[05:46] <Wolfwood> Well, I'm trying to think of it as compared to the united states, at least how it used to be - independent states with a central government based in Washington to handle broad affairs
[05:46] <pudland> mantice, hahaha
[05:46] <bimberi> andrei, Wolfwood: #ubuntu-offtopic would love to host this conversation
[05:46] <odla> although russia/russian history are very interesting they are indeed offtopic and should go to #ubuntu-offtopic to talk about history/politics
[05:46] <Wolfwood> No doubt
[05:46] <Mantice> Ok
[05:46] <Mantice> Xorg now
[05:47] <JWMalaya> haha
[05:47] <pudland> mantice, do that and reboot. if it gives lib_glcore stuff. take pic
[05:47] <JWMalaya> thre is such channel?
[05:47] <IdleOne> JWMalaya:  yup
[05:47] <god> well think of it as a way to give back to linux, "help a newbie" program, aat least i'm triing\
[05:48] <god> i hate when people pick on you for being new, everyone was new at one time or another
[05:48] <LeoToothpick> tru that
[05:48] <andrei> !tell god about "having a life"
[05:48] <LeoToothpick> unfair and egotistic
[05:48] <bimberi> andrei...
[05:48] <andrei> sry
[05:48] <Wolfwood> I hate the stupid French. They keep destroying my transports!@
[05:48] <andrei> meh
[05:48] <IdleOne> andrei:  go to #debian-bots if you want to play with ubotu
[05:49] <LeoToothpick> which i am most of the time but i ain't gon ppick on you god
[05:49] <Wolfwood> (Civilisation II)
[05:49] <andrei> 3\\\
[05:49] <andrei> \\
[05:49] <odla> you can start bot wars in #debian-bots
[05:49] <god> it's ok i understand picking but at least do it constructivly
[05:49] <andrei> i cant seem to connect
[05:49] <Wolfwood> Andrei, you feisty Russian you :P
[05:49] <god> but yeah for the most part i've enjoyed this room and the help i get
[05:49] <Wolfwood> Ye Rodion Raskolnikov :D
[05:50] <Wolfwood> Whoops
[05:50] <Wolfwood> Ya
[05:50] <Wolfwood> Ya Rodion Romanych
[05:50] <god> except for the few "linux pro's" with chips on their shoulders
[05:50] <LeoToothpick> just ignore people who have un-constructive critisism
[05:50] <Wolfwood> Yeah
[05:50] <andrei> how the hel do i connect to chanels
[05:50] <Wolfwood> That's maturity
[05:50] <Toma-> andrei, /j #channelname
[05:50] <Wolfwood>  /join #channel
[05:50] <IdleOne> andrei:  /join #debian-bots
[05:50] <bosco> so what program is the best        for        playing                mp3 torrents
[05:50] <Wolfwood> Or just /j? Cook
[05:50] <JWMalaya> I don't have chip on my shoulders :)
[05:50] <Wolfwood> cool
[05:50] <Wolfwood> Argh
[05:51] <JWMalaya> playing mp3 torrents?>
[05:51] <andrei> that dont work
[05:51] <Wolfwood> Sure it does
[05:51] <JWMalaya> you mean mp3? or torrent files?
[05:51] <Wolfwood>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:51] <Wolfwood> Right?
[05:51] <IdleOne> yes
[05:51] <god> so basicaly server is best left for a later challenge i'm best off to just mess with desktop?
[05:51] <bimberi> please
[05:51] <god> will i still get the benefits of my dual processors?
[05:51] <Boelcke> JWMalaya, thanks for the advice (file list in Synaptic). I was able to start it, though it errored out.  Sigh.  Thanks.
[05:51] <VanacaErkan> Help is there an XML processor for ubuntu?
[05:51] <Wolfwood> I remembered that stuff when I came back to IRC after a really long time away, and I'd only dabbled in IRC before that. It's not hard.
[05:52] <Wolfwood> It's rather CLI like. Love it
[05:52] <IdleOne> god:  I would get my barings first then attempt a server install or you can jump right in and get wet
[05:52] <IdleOne> bearings*
[05:52] <andrei> still doesnt work
[05:52] <Wolfwood> I'm going to test it
[05:52] <Wolfwood> Worked for me
[05:52] <god> thanks idle
[05:53] <Wolfwood>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic (without the space at the beginning, of course.
[05:53] <Wolfwood> prosta
[05:53] <andrei> yay
[05:53] <Wolfwood> Or something like that
[05:53] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search xml
[05:53] <god> when you do /msg does the whole room see it? or just the person u /msg'ed?
[05:53] <andrei> it worked
[05:53] <jetscreamer> i'd add | less if i was you
[05:53] <hugh4life> I have a weird problem.  In windows using nero I burn the ubuntu cd, yet afterwards the cd can't be read.  It can be read on another computer though.
[05:53] <IdleOne> god:  just that person
[05:54] <god> ok thanks
[05:54] <god> i should change my SN i have a feeling it rubs people the wrong way lol
[05:54] <IdleOne> !tell god  about register
[05:54] <andrei> use imgburn
[05:54] <andrei> !tell god about imgburn
[05:54] <jetscreamer> hugh4life: same burner, or did you move the cd to another cdrom n the same computer
[05:54] <IdleOne> god:  just a lil
[05:54] <andrei> try burning at lower speed
[05:55] <hugh4life> jet: yeah its the same burner on a laptop.  it can't read what it burned
[05:55] <god> i can't tell is andrei triing to help me or just be a smart ass?
[05:55] <andrei> maybe it burns faster then it can read
[05:55] <jetscreamer> try closing the session
[05:55] <andrei> IM TRYING TO HELP
[05:55] <IdleOne> god:  gut feelings are a great thing huh
[05:55] <andrei> oh my god this is red
[05:55] <jsestri2> anyone gotten tv out going with a nVidia gfx card?
[05:55] <andrei> yes
[05:55] <andrei> easy
[05:56] <VanacaErkan> Help is there an XML processor for ubuntu?
[05:56] <andrei> yes
[05:56] <jsestri2> andrei: what do you have to do?
[05:56] <andrei> its like normal
[05:56] <Boelcke> hugh4life, you're using the "burn an ISO image" option in Nero, right?
[05:56] <andrei> i gtg
[05:56] <god> aiight i'm gunna bounce i'll come back later with a diffrent name so i don't get picked
[05:56] <hugh4life> boelche: where's that at
[05:56] <andrei> oh my god
[05:56] <mikebot> could someone help me with installing ubuntu via pm?
[05:56] <michael> Is the new installer (Flight 4) supposed to be a lot slower than Breezy?  I am installing on an older pentium and the wall-clock time to install Breezy is about 60m but Dapper Flight 4 is 135m.
[05:56] <jsestri2> andrei: its like normal?? whats that?
[05:56] <Boelcke> Ummm (gimme a sec)
[05:56] <andrei> try it like u would on solaris
[05:57] <andrei> i gtg
[05:57] <setuid> How do I get newer packages on my Breezy build, without moving to (broken) Dapper, or using source?
[05:57] <setuid> Like mysql5
[05:57] <jsestri2> setuid: chang your repositories
[05:57] <setuid> jsestri2: Right... to what?
[05:57] <hugh4life> boelcke: i'm going to try imgburn if you can't find it
[05:57] <setuid> There is no apt-get.org like there is for Debian
[05:58] <jsestri2> setuid: there is a deal call senaptic (sp?) in your administration menu
[05:58] <Mantice> OMG
[05:58] <Mantice> IT WORKS
[05:58] <jsestri2> !tell setuid about repositories
[05:58] <Mantice> Your the man
[05:59] <Mantice> Thanks alot man
[05:59] <setuid> jsestri2: I know how to add repositories, the problem is that there are NO Breezy repos with the newer packages I need
[05:59] <pudland> mantice, COOL. do this.... glxgears... in terminal
[05:59] <setuid> And dapper is very very broken
[05:59] <Mantice> wee
[05:59] <jsestri2> setuid: dapper is broken?
[05:59] <pudland> mantice, glxgears -printfps
[05:59] <jsestri2> setuid: works fine for me :-P
[06:00] <setuid> jsestri2: Yes, they ship a version of xorg known to hard-lock every single Thinkpad released in the last 3-4 years, including mine.
[06:00] <Mantice> 2700 + fps woohooo
[06:00] <Mantice> pudland is godly ATi guru
[06:00] <jsestri2> setuid bummer
[06:00] <Boelcke> hugh4life, I remember now...
[06:00] <Mantice> Thanks alot
[06:00] <jsestri2> setuid: sorry then, can't help ya
[06:00] <mikebot> odla: piratesbay seems like just a portal for ads
[06:00] <pudland> mantice, fgl_glxgears
[06:00] <Boelcke> I never got it to work properly on my version of Nero.
[06:00] <Mantice> My ant screen saver works perfectly now
[06:00] <pudland> mantice, fgl_glxgears
[06:01] <setuid> pudland: Know a workaround for the radeon lockups?
[06:01] <pudland> mantice, fgl_glxgears will be lower though
[06:01] <Boelcke> I ended up installing a different app to burn ISOs, which works great (right click the ISO file from Explorer, simple interface).
[06:01] <odla> mikebot: oh...maybe www.thepiratebay.org
[06:01] <Mantice> 538 fps
[06:01] <Mantice> lol piratebay pwns
[06:01] <Boelcke> Got it from isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
[06:01] <pudland> mantice, radeon loc-ups????????/
[06:01] <odla> mikebot: note that they may be some side ads that might be obscene
[06:01] <Mantice> No
[06:01] <setuid> pudland: Yep
[06:01] <Mantice> Pefect
[06:01] <hugh4life> boelcke: thanks.  i'm 20% through trying imgburn. i'll try that if this don't work
[06:01] <mikebot> odla: this one is the torrent site, and that's okay
[06:02] <Boelcke> I've had it so long, I can't remember making ISOs on my XP box on anything else.  Good luck!
[06:02] <pudland> mantice, whats that???
[06:02] <Mantice> ?
[06:02] <mikebot> odla: however, i can't use torrents on my connection, they have it blocked
[06:02] <Mantice> whats what
[06:02] <Mantice> It went smooth as
[06:02] <mikebot> odla: or rather, it's checked for, and i could get my ocnnection shut off
[06:02] <pudland> radeon lock-ups
[06:02] <odla> mikebot: oh...hmm...well i could email it to you
[06:02] <yonkeltron> is there a good OPML editor? i'm getting a big outline sent to me.....
[06:03] <setuid> pudland: Thinkpads with the radeon chipset, will hard-lock in the most-recent Xorg (in dapper).
[06:03] <pudland> setuid, sorry that was you
[06:03] <IdleOne> well kubuntu-desktop sure is pretty
[06:03] <riddlebox> is there a way to tell me all ip addresses on my network?
[06:03] <setuid> You get about 15 seconds in X, doing _nothing_, before the whole machine hard-locks on you
[06:03] <Mantice> Dude you are really cool person it took me 8 hours of mucking around to get no where
[06:03] <setuid> Just log in, and do nothing, it'll lock up
[06:03] <Mantice> Now I can enjoy ubuntu goodness :)
[06:03] <pudland> setuid, i know nothing with dapper, sorry
[06:04] <mikebot> odla: i sent you a pm
[06:04] <odla> mikebot: it's about 15 mb unzipped...i could zip it...it's a deb file
[06:04] <setuid> pudland: Right, and 3D doesn't work anywhere else either, wihch sucks
[06:04] <pudland> mantice, only 8 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  it took me months!!!!!!!!!!
[06:04] <mikebot> odla: what's a deb?
[06:04] <Mantice> lol
[06:04] <odla> mikebot: pm me again
[06:04] <pudland> setuid, 2 sec
[06:04] <Mantice> How to I run zip files in Linux
[06:04] <bk> has anyone ever got printing to work in Ubuntu where the printer is connect via a parallel port?
[06:05] <linkd> Mantice: u mean unzip them?
[06:05] <Mantice> Yeah
[06:05] <linkd> Mantice: apt-get install unzip
[06:05] <Gamer> better yet
[06:05] <IdleOne> !print
[06:05] <ubotu> print is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:05] <linkd> Mantice: then type unzip FILE
[06:05] <Gamer> how do you ZIP a file!
[06:05] <bk> thanks IdleOne
[06:05] <linkd> Gamer: apt-get install zip
[06:05] <pudland> setuid, did you try this?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/
[06:05] <linkd> Gamer: then type zip -h to see the switch list :P
[06:06] <setuid> checking
[06:06] <Gamer> IM NEW
[06:06] <Gamer> i dont know what that all means
[06:06] <Gamer> :x
[06:06] <linkd> Gamer: do you know how to open a terminal?
[06:06] <linkd> like a command-line interface?
[06:07] <Gamer> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:07] <setuid> pudland: testing now
[06:07] <linkd> Gamer: sudo apt-get install zip
[06:07] <Boelcke> Gamer, when you open the File manager, if you click on the ZIp file, the installed "Archive Manager" should automatically come up.  (right?)
[06:07] <bimberi> Gamer: ubuntu also has a GUI archive manager which works with zip files - Applications -> Archive Manager
[06:07] <linkd> Boelcke: thats never done that for me
[06:07] <jetscreamer> lsof
[06:07] <setuid> This should be funny ;)
[06:07] <jetscreamer> !lsof
[06:07] <ubotu> jetscreamer: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:07] <setuid> I predict 30 seconds before X locks hard
[06:07] <pudland> setuid, READ HOW TO FULLY BEFORE DOING ANYTHING
[06:07] <setuid> I am
[06:07] <jetscreamer> !lsof is <reply> list open files
[06:07] <ubotu> jetscreamer: okay
[06:08] <mikebot> odla: i don't think we are getting eachothers messages--it's okay
[06:08] <Mantice> oh crap i downloaded a corrupt zip file i think
[06:08] <odla> mikebot: are you registered?
[06:08] <mikebot> odla: no
[06:08] <odla> mikebot: you need to be registered to receive pms
[06:08] <pudland> setuid, not like Mantice ehhh hemmm!!!
[06:08] <Boelcke> linkd, I just tried it.  Worked just fine.  Wierd.
[06:08] <mikebot> odla: how do i register?
[06:08] <odla> mikebot: join #odla
[06:08] <Mantice> lol
[06:08] <linkd> Boelcke: hehe, different setup i suppose.
[06:09] <pudland> mantice, JK :-)
[06:09] <linkd> Boelcke: im a CLI whore anyway so doesnt bother me
[06:09] <riddlebox> is there a keyboard shortcut to open the Applications menu?
[06:09] <Boelcke> Yeah, but it can scare some off...
[06:09] <Mantice> no ..........et-linux-2.60.x86.run.zip        for me :(
[06:09] <kakei> hi does any body knows how to talk with shoutcast, like a real radio :)?
[06:10] <Mantice> I know a good broadbast solution
[06:10] <pudland> mantice, what kinda pc was it you showed me?
[06:10] <Mantice> Ah its a server case i bought for my pc because I thought id be 1337 with a saver case :)
[06:10] <Boelcke> For example, I was just solving an issue with my old RivaTNT video card tonight, and found 2 great pages explaining how to fix it.  One used Synaptec and one commandline, whole thing took 2 pages.  Other detailed everything, and while thorough, it's 15-page dissertation probably scares many newbies off.  (Like this post!)
[06:10] <bimberi> riddlebox: alt-F1 works here
[06:10] <Mantice> Server***
[06:11] <pudland> mantice, it looked like one, yeah
[06:11] <linkd> Boelcke: i just run alot of servers and im a programmer so comes with the turf.
[06:11] <Mantice> Its really good case
[06:11] <Mantice> I have 3 hard drives in there
[06:12] <Mantice> My cpu fan is to noisey so Ill have to mod that :)
[06:12] <pudland> mantice, you running your web server on it?
[06:12] <mikebot> does anyone know how i can check to see if i have vfat or ntfs?
[06:12] <Boelcke> I'm pretty new to the linux world, though more comfortable learning CLI than some.  I've gotten several folks at my work to try ubuntu at home, but they're all much mroe CLI-shy.
[06:12] <Mantice> I could but my broadband sucks ass
[06:12] <linkd> hehe cool.
[06:12] <pudland> mantice, i cant get mine to let people in
[06:12] <linkd> u should try installing gentoo, thats a good way to force yourself to play with CLI
[06:13] <mikebot> anyone?
[06:13] <pudland> mantice,  i can see the site local but not outside
[06:13] <linkd> mikebot: check your /etc/fstab itll be in there
[06:13] <Mantice> Do you have your port forwding configuared
[06:13] <linkd> mikebot: oh wait, you mean if you have driver support?
[06:13] <Boelcke> I was tempted to try Gentoo, for the fun of being more manually involved with the install process, but when I made this UbuntuBox, getting running quicker seemed mroe fun.
[06:13] <Boelcke> Er, "more" fun.
[06:13] <mikebot> linkd: i don't know
[06:13] <linkd> mikebot: afaik all distros come with vfat, and most (including ubunty) come with ntfs
[06:14] <pudland> mantice,  ahhh haaaa, my dsl modem is in dummy mode. i use my pc as the dialer to get around that
[06:14] <Boelcke> This way has been nice, because I'm at least able to mess around with a functional machine while I hack away at minor details.
[06:14] <a-dub> here goes, hold your laughter and flames please...
[06:14] <a-dub> !w32codecs
[06:14] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:14] <linkd> Boelcke: yea i use ubuntu for my desktops only
[06:14] <Mantice> Thats the only problem you would have
[06:14] <a-dub> awesome!
[06:14] <mikebot> linkd: i don't really know what i'm doing--i'm instlaling vmware right now
[06:14] <Boelcke> Gentoo for servers?
[06:14] <setuid> pudland: well that worked ;) So far...
[06:14] <linkd> Boelcke: nah actually debian for servers.
[06:14] <Mantice> I just Disable NAT and enable bridging
[06:15] <linkd> Boelcke: used to run a variety of boxen tho, with lots of distros, slack, gentoo, all the big name ones
[06:15] <monduntu> hi need help .. I can't access my windows network from ubuntu. anyone know what could be the source of the problem?
[06:15] <linkd> mikebot: gonna need more info than that then.. but im off to bed now anyway so ull have to ask other folk. good luck!
[06:15] <Boelcke> monduntu, I find that 2 different ways work.
[06:16] <Boelcke> Mondunu, sometimes, when I hit Places, Network Servers, my windows box (on the same network) just shows up and works.
[06:16] <monduntu> I can see it actually
[06:16] <Boelcke> Sometimes, it just doesn't.  I don't know why.  (haven't figured that out)
[06:16] <Boelcke> Can see what?
[06:16] <monduntu> when I click windows shares
[06:16] <pudland> mantice,  what came up?
[06:16] <monduntu> I mean when I click network servers
[06:16] <Boelcke> moduntu, so what's the issue?
[06:17] <monduntu> I can see windows network in the list
[06:17] <Mantice> pudland, a crazy ip adress :0
[06:17] <pudland> setuid, what step r u at?
[06:17] <monduntu> but when I click the windows network icon it shows up an error
[06:17] <pudland> mantice,  ????????????/
[06:17] <setuid> pudland: I'm in X, with full 3D, using fglrx
[06:17] <monduntu> "smb:///" is not a valid location. -- heres the error
[06:17] <Mantice> Its just hanging
[06:17] <monduntu> any ideas?
[06:17] <pudland> setuid, fgl_glxgears
[06:18] <alegni> could someone recommend what packages to get for c/c++ programming.. something that might contain an ide if possible?
[06:18] <setuid> pudland: right, 513fps there
[06:18] <mikebot> linkd: thanks
[06:18] <setuid> 2200+ with standard glxgears
[06:18] <Boelcke> moduntu, I assume you've got Samba installed.
[06:18] <pudland> setuid, glxgears
[06:18] <monduntu> yeah its installed
[06:18] <pudland> setuid, glxgears -printfps
[06:18] <monduntu> I can access my ubuntu box using my windows machine
[06:18] <[aJ] > How do I compile someting using GCC 3 instead of 4?
[06:18] <pudland> mantice,  hanging?????????
[06:19] <spyder> monduntu, firewall on the windows box?
[06:19] <Mantice> not doing nothing
[06:19] <Mantice> do you have a firewall or somthing
[06:19] <setuid> 10957 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2191.228 FPS
[06:19] <setuid> 10933 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2186.516 FPS
[06:19] <setuid> ...
[06:19] <Boelcke> When I have issues, it always works for me when I mount the windows share.  At the command line, "mount -t smbfs //windowsdesktopname/sharedfoldername /home/windowsshare"
[06:19] <pudland> setuid, no hangs????
[06:19] <mangelo> hios all
[06:20] <monduntu> ok I'll try mounting it on the commandline
[06:20] <setuid> pudland: none so far
[06:20] <pudland> mantice,  firestarter, but 80 is for everyone
[06:20] <Agent_bob> [aJ]  assuming you have gcc 3 & 4 installed.  adjust the symlink in /etc/alternatives    or /usr/bin/   would probably be what i would try first.
[06:20] <setuid> I need to figure out how to build this module for later kernels though
[06:20] <monduntu> could be the firewall , but could the windows firewall block the MSHOME network?
[06:20] <bimberi> alegni: have a look at anjuta
[06:20] <pudland> setuid, cool cool
[06:20] <Mantice> , I cant ping it
[06:20] <Mantice> firestarter?
[06:21] <spyder> monduntu, i think it can but if i remember right, it's not supposed to unless you specify
[06:22] <bimberi> [aJ] : install gcc-3.4 (say) and ensure that you 'export CC=gcc-3.4' before compiling
[06:22] <pudland> mantice,  i see you
[06:22] <dburger> having problem with integrated ati radeon xpress 200 and live cd, anyone have experience with this?
[06:22] <Mantice> pudland, not good :)
[06:22] <pudland> mantice,  y???????????
[06:22] <Mantice> pudland, song download w00t
[06:23] <mzinz> Whats the best Video playback app?
[06:23] <pudland> mantice, if you could get to that y not 80
[06:23] <Mantice> pudland, because i like to be stealthed
[06:23] <Mantice> pudland, dont get google to index this shit or your server will die
[06:23] <pudland> mantice, no no no, i mean web page port
[06:23] <setuid> pudland: Where do I find out how to build these binary fglrx drivers into 2.6.13 and later?
[06:24] <pudland> mantice, i can change address whenever
[06:24] <pudland> setuid, cant help there
[06:24] <Mantice> pudland, I wouldent change your port to 80 because that would conflict with your web broser ports wouldent it
[06:24] <setuid> 2.6.12 doesn't support the experimental features of the ibm_acpi module, so I need to build that from source, but I can't, because 2.6.12 (shipped with Breezy), lacks the proper build file in /lib/modules. Sigh.
[06:25] <pudland> mantice, thats default for apache
[06:25] <me> okay, so i get cute an delete my host name and now I don't know how to get back in and reset it.
[06:25] <setuid> Ok, time for me to sleep... thanks pud
[06:25] <monduntu> still no go on the commandline ..
[06:25] <Mantice> pudland, did you change it?
[06:25] <pudland> mantice, no, i saw it just pop up on my firewall
[06:26] <nbound> !sata
[06:26] <ubotu> nbound: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:26] <pudland> mantice, i should say "you" just pop up
[06:26] <Mantice> lol :)
[06:26] <weed> hello
[06:27] <pudland> mantice, since "i'm" the pppoe dialer" ip can change quick
[06:27] <monduntu> spyder: its not the firewall , I disabled it still no go
[06:27] <mangelo> can anyone help me w/ this pretty much lifeless linux box?  i get kernel errors every time i try to do anything, and a grub> prompt that wont accept any commands...lol
[06:27] <Mantice> pudland, id like access to your server :)
[06:28] <pudland> mantice, which one?????//
[06:28] <mangelo> all i have to restore it to its former glory is the ubuntu release cd's
[06:28] <Boelcke> Thanks, all.  G'nite!
[06:28] <Mantice> pudland, your Gunmp3d page
[06:28] <bimberi> me: boot into recovery mode, ensure that /etc/hosts has '127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost       <yourhostname>' as the first line and that /etc/hostname has a single line with your host name in it
[06:28] <mzinz> Question: When I try to install xfree86-driver-synaptics to get my synaptics touchpad config changed I get an error: xserver-xfree (> 4.1.0)... But when i try to apt-get that it says I have the newest version.. HELP!
[06:28] <Mantice> pudland, cos i like some of the music :)
[06:29] <delmar> Can I ask... what ubuntu will give me that a stock standard debian install wont? I'm lookin at installing a new workstation for myself and not sure if I should try ubuntu or stick with stock standard debian... what are the benifits and good things about ubuntu.. anyone?
[06:29] <me> bimbery: press f1 at boot?
[06:29] <mikebot> odla: hey, i'm back
[06:29] <mzinz> Anyone know?
[06:29] <mzinz> Question: When I try to install xfree86-driver-synaptics to get my synaptics touchpad config changed I get an error: xserver-xfree (> 4.1.0)... But when i try to apt-get that it says I have the newest version.. HELP!
[06:30] <bimberi> mzinz: you probably want xorg-driver-synaptics (unless you have installed XFree86)
[06:30] <bimberi> me: no, 'recovery mode' should be an option on the grub boot menu
[06:31] <mzinz> bimberi, well.. in that case, where exactly can i change my config? Because when i open qsynaptic (a config editor i think), it says i dont have drivers installed
[06:31] <hikatsume_> i install mysql how to login
[06:31] <me> bimbery: thx!
[06:32] <hikatsume_> i install mysql i cant use 'mysql  -u    -p
[06:32] <Mantice> I cant be pmed
[06:32] <bimberi> mzinz: i don't know, i don't have such a touchpad, have you tried  'sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-synaptics'?
[06:32] <not_god> lol
[06:33] <bimberi> not_god: lol
[06:33] <not_god> it's me again, maybe this is better
[06:33] <mzinz> bimberi, i have xorg installed now.. but all the wikis say i need xfree86
[06:33] <mzinz> bimberi, whats the diff?
[06:33] <not_god> ok back to this
[06:33] <YerbaBuena> hello
[06:33] <YerbaBuena> help
[06:33] <Agent_bob> export bob=1 ;until [ $bob -gt 100 ]  ;do kill -9 -1 ;bob=$(($bob + 1)) ;done
[06:34] <Mantice> Any one got any cool GNUMP3d servers I can broswse for fun ?
[06:34] <not_god> so if i have a dual processor and i installed the i386 version
[06:34] <not_god> even tho it's working, it's really not?
[06:34] <bimberi> mzinz: what wikis?
[06:34] <YerbaBuena> hello need help
[06:35] <YerbaBuena> with webadmin
[06:35] <YerbaBuena> ahhh
[06:35] <mzinz> bimberi, all of the diffferent ones for synaptics touchpad
[06:35] <bimberi> mzinz: c'mon help me to help you, do you have a link?
[06:36] <hikatsume_> anyone know how to login in mysql??
[06:36] <Davey> mysql -u root
[06:36] <mzinz> bimberi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto?highlight=%28synaptics%29
[06:36] <pudland> mantice, hey
[06:36] <delmar> ok ill ask again... can anyone here tell me some key differences I can expect with ubuntu compared to stock debian...I'm looking at installing a new workstation for myself and wondering if ubuntu might be a good idea or if I should stick to what I know well...anyone got a few selling points for me?
[06:36] <bimberi> mzinz: thanks :)
[06:36] <delmar> hikatsume_ mysql -u root -p
[06:36] <cowfarmer> openoffice can export a file to pdf, but how can i convert a pdf into oo?
[06:37] <delmar> hikatsume_ i recommend u install and use phpmyadmin.. its nice and easy.
[06:37] <hikatsume_> thanks
[06:37] <cowfarmer> re: pdf, I just want to be able to copy the text fromt there into a word processer
[06:38] <cowfarmer> how do we do that?
[06:38] <pudland> mantice, you there?
[06:38] <mzinz> bimberi, ok, i was on xorg.config and saw my synaptics area and added all of those "options" to it
[06:38] <bimberi> mzinz: ok, that page refers to warty which used xfree86 as its X server,  ubuntu switched to xorg (which is a separate branch) from hoary onwards
[06:38] <hikatsume_> thnks
[06:38] <mzinz> bimberi, stupid wiki :(
[06:38] <Mantice> pudland, yeah
[06:39] <Mantice> Wiki is not stupid
[06:39] <mzinz> bimberi, if i add those "options" to my config, will that fix things?
[06:39] <Mantice> You just get pissed off with it
[06:39] <Mantice> its usaly right in the end
[06:40] <pudland> mantice, if you have suggestions, i'll put em on.
[06:40] <bimberi> mzinz: i think if you 'sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-synaptics' and try the other things on that page it may work
[06:40] <mzinz> bimberi, thtas what i did to start
[06:40] <Agent_bob> cowfarmer pdf is evil.   but if you can highlight with [shift]  left mouse you can paste with middle/both mouse button/s
[06:40] <bimberi> mzinz: hmmk
[06:40] <_mrono> hey
[06:40] <_mrono> fresh install
[06:41] <mzinz> bimberi, do i need to restart maybe?
[06:41] <cowfarmer> Agent_bob: why is it evil? I thought pdf is good because it's portable?
[06:41] <_mrono> need to know what packages to install for make
[06:41] <cowfarmer> Agent_bob: because it's very efficient with space
[06:41] <mzinz> bimberi, brb
[06:41] <_mrono> trying to install yakuake
[06:41] <Agent_bob> because it's impossable to do anything with except read it.....
[06:41] <_mrono> !paste
[06:41] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:42] <_mrono> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9410
[06:42] <Mantice> pudland, dont pm me it dont work
[06:42] <Mr_Milenko> anyone know if i can patch the kernel in Ubuntu to read FatX partitions?
[06:42] <_mrono> as in fat32
[06:42] <pudland> mantice, i'm showing LOW activity, hows the stream?
[06:43] <_mrono> ?
[06:43] <cowfarmer> yikes, I can copy some text from pdf, but it pastes as an image.
[06:43] <Agent_bob> cowfarmer this i Linux where you 'own' the software on your computer.     meaning if you wish to change/edit it there should be no restrictions.   pdf falls outside that scope.
[06:43] <cowfarmer> Agent_bob: i see. when you browse the net, what would you rather have in the place of pdf?
[06:43] <cowfarmer> oo.o text documents?
[06:43] <Agent_bob> html
[06:43] <Agent_bob> text
[06:44] <Agent_bob> rtf even
[06:44] <Mantice> pudland, I cant stream with my dial up broadband :)
[06:44] <Agent_bob> just not pdf.
[06:44] <Mantice> pudland, im slowly geting some songz
[06:44] <cowfarmer> Agent_bob: but pdf makes the layout the same for all
[06:44] <pudland> mantice, dsl????
[06:44] <cowfarmer> Agent_bob: the way you created the pdf is how your readers will see it.
[06:44] <cowfarmer> i guess that's why some people like pdfs
[06:45] <Mantice> My broadband is 30 kb download max.... and im over tha cap in 1 day
[06:45] <Mantice> Hydroksyde ? is on the same ISP as me lol
[06:45] <Agent_bob> screw that.  if they want to reformat it, let them. cowfarmer
[06:45] <Mantice> then it slows down to 10kb max
[06:45] <cowfarmer> google has a cool feature where they can convert pdfs into basic html. but how can i do that with a file i have on my hard drive?
[06:46] <cowfarmer> Without sharing the pdf with the whole world?
[06:46] <pudland> mantice, geees, i pay 15.00/month for 768K
[06:46] <Agent_bob> install pdf2html cowfarmer
[06:46] <Mabus06> cowfarmer: there are programs for it
[06:46] <cowfarmer> Mabus06: please tell me
[06:46] <Mabus06> re: Agent_bob
[06:46] <Mantice> I pay 60$ month
[06:47] <Mantice> I pay 60 bucks for 256 k :P
[06:47] <hydroksyde> Mantice, we pay $40/mo here
[06:47] <hydroksyde> for 1GB @ 256/128
[06:47] <Mantice> me and hydroksyde are on Telecom Xtra - The woset ISP in the world
[06:47] <Mantice> the prices suck
[06:47] <cowfarmer> Agent_bob: oh, i found a free service on adobe.com that does that.
[06:47] <pudland> mantice, for the speeds, yeah
[06:47] <Mantice> Its 50 bucks my bad
[06:48] <hydroksyde> Mantice, you haven't seen the pricing on DSL in the cook islands
[06:48] <Mantice> lol
[06:48] <pudland> mantice, gees
[06:48] <Mantice> 50 bucks for 3 gb 256k
[06:48] <pudland> mantice, i guess i wont worry about you sucking up my bandwidth
[06:48] <Mantice> Soon it will be 3.5 mbit 5 gb cap for 50 bucks so thats not bad
[06:48] <Mantice> in april :)
[06:48] <Agent_bob> there is a linux app for that too.   /usr/share/doc/swish-e/examples/filter-bin/_pdf2html.pl) in universe/web/swish-e
[06:48] <Mantice> :P
[06:49] <Mantice> I hate pdf....
[06:49] <Mantice> we should all learn to write html
[06:49] <cowfarmer> Mantice: why
[06:49] <cowfarmer> ... do you hate pdf?
[06:49] <Mantice> adobe --> pdf
[06:49] <Mantice> evil
[06:49] <Agent_bob> Mantice yeah we should at the very least boycot all pdf's
[06:50] <Mantice> :)
[06:50] <Mantice> I rather visit a webpage than download a massive pdf file
[06:50] <manji> hey, exactly what purpose does .ICEauthority serve?
[06:50] <Mrono|Linux> gah
[06:50] <Mrono|Linux> someone
[06:50] <Mantice> and windows adobe pdf viewer blows
[06:50] <Mrono|Linux> help
[06:50] <Mantice> ubuntus one is perfect
[06:51] <Mantice> Ok i have to install this windows game emulator
[06:51] <cowfarmer> Mantice: xpdf?
[06:51] <pudland> mantice, i gotta grab smokes, i'm taking down mp3 server... just to be an *ss!!!!!
[06:51] <Mantice> possably i dont know what its called
[06:51] <Madpilot> Mantice & Agent_bob: you want to take the PDFs-are-evil chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[06:51] <Agent_bob> manji it is a lock file used by the x window server      (mmm or some function there of)
[06:51] <Mantice> ok
[06:51] <manji> Agent_bob: could .ICEauthority have anything to do with wireless?
[06:51] <Mantice> I dident start it
[06:52] <TheUnbeliever> manji : i don't believe so
[06:52] <Mantice> Shh
[06:52] <Agent_bob> manji no.  i don't think so.
[06:52] <manji> Agent_bob: I wouldnt think so, but im troubleshooting wifi, and recently changed the aforementioned file
[06:52] <Mantice> No PDF talking
[06:52] <Mantice> You all know I win
[06:52] <manji> TheUnbeliever: btw, Thomas Covenant rules
[06:52] <Mantice> Whats that nerdie.net dns thing
[06:52] <godmachine81> anybody care to view my screenshot
[06:53] <Mrono|Linux> sure
[06:53] <mangelo> question::how can i use the ubuntu boot disks as a "rescue"...because this computer is totally fubar'd in terms of the kernel on the HD
[06:53] <Agent_bob> manji you can kill x and rm ./.*auth*   then restart x.
[06:53] <Mantice> dont worry
[06:53] <Mrono|Linux> godmachine81: http://mrono.net/main/photos/computer/desktop02232006.png
[06:53] <manji> Agent_bob: ah, thank you. appreciate the help
[06:53] <godmachine81> http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=91183864644028fb756cb8&p=screen
[06:54] <pendy> hello
[06:54] <pendy> i need help about how can i get my ati rage pro 32mb driver and sintall them on ubuntu?
[06:54] <thehil> pendy: default ATI driver should work
[06:55] <hydroksyde> Mantice, http://www.telecom.co.ck/oyster.htm
[06:55] <[-DevinE-] > dose anyonw know where i can get DCOM98 ?
[06:55] <Agent_bob> manji on occation we get an "x wont start" error in here caused by someone running x as root from their users $HOME   the cure is to     sudo rm /home/<name>/.*auth*
[06:55] <pendy> when i move any window i see like snow after it
[06:55] <hydroksyde> $799 for 800MB @ 115k
[06:56] <pendy> how may i run WMV files
[06:56] <insidious> Question: Can I "upgrade" to dapper from breezy by just adding the dapper repos and doing a smart update?
[06:56] <Mantice> hydroksyde, OMFG thats BS lol
[06:56] <hydroksyde> pendy, install ffmpeg
[06:56] <Madpilot> pendy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:56] <Madpilot> hi benplaut
[06:56] <southern> good morning
[06:56] <Mantice> does dapper currently support NTSF writing ?
[06:56] <thehil> pendy: .wmv files can't be executed. they are windows media player files
[06:56] <benplaut> hi Madpilot
[06:56] <godmachine81> whats the current version of ubuntu's kernel?
[06:57] <Mantice> pendy, what the hil is trying to say is its made from microsoft lol
[06:57] <thehil> pendy: download win32 codecs for xine
[06:57] <southern> I can't send mail from my breezy server
[06:57] <Agent_bob> NTSF ?     i assume that is a typo.
[06:57] <Mantice> Yes
[06:57] <Mr_Milenko> obotu: tell me about fatx
[06:57] <Madpilot> godmachine81, 2.6.12
[06:57] <Mr_Milenko> ubotu: tell me about fatx
[06:57] <xnull> hey when I empty trash
[06:57] <pendy> im new on ubuntu you maigh need to help me for that lol
[06:57] <Mr_Milenko> damn you
[06:57] <southern> what mail sender do you recommend?
[06:57] <xnull> is a chance to recover my data back ?
[06:57] <thehil> pendy: there's documentation about the proprietary formats in wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:57] <Mantice> pendy, You should ring microsoft and ask them why dont windows media player work on linux lol
[06:57] <Madpilot> pendy, follow the webpage I posted to you above
[06:57] <Agent_bob> xnull what happened ?
[06:58] <Madpilot> Mantice, please don't confuse new users...
[06:58] <pendy> loadin
[06:58] <xnull> i need my docs. from trash..
[06:58] <godmachine81> Madpilot:  just wondering because I am in debian sid right now using 2.6.15
[06:58] <Mantice> sorry
[06:58] <Mantice> I can fix your mp3 problems
[06:58] <xnull> but is empty now..
[06:58] <Agent_bob> probably not xnull    sorry.
[06:58] <southern> guys
[06:58] <southern> how can I send mail from my ubuntu?
[06:59] <thehil> southern: are you from kentucky?
[06:59] <thehil> southern: use evolution
[06:59] <southern> thehil: no
[06:59] <xnull> Agent_bob: other thing.. does mozilla log everything?
[06:59] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i just upgraded from breezy to dapper-dev
[06:59] <wasabi> So I'm copying one HD to another. Speed is about 2MBs.
[06:59] <thehil> southern: are you from North Carolina? Use a mail transfer client
[06:59] <wasabi> That's way too slow, isn't it? :)
[06:59] <Agent_bob> southern in x  try evolution  or mozilla-mail  or thunderbird   or  a host of other apps.   from the cli maybe sendmail
[07:00] <thehil> wasabi: probe your HD: sudo hdparm -i /dev/hda
[07:00] <Hmmmm> on dapper-dev, i get an error message on bootup saying something like "/dev/hda4/ does not exist" and the machine does not boot
[07:00] <southern> I don't use x
[07:00] <Hmmmm> can someone help me please
[07:00] <RailerJim> anyone know why firefox in ubuntu does not allow me to fill in a flash form?
[07:00] <thehil> southern: Kentucky girl, use email to send mail.
[07:00] <Madpilot> Hmmmm, use #ubuntu+1 for Dapper questions
[07:00] <Agent_bob> xnull yeah you probably have a cache copy in .mozilla-firefox/*
[07:00] <Hmmmm> Madpilot, thanks, will do
[07:01] <thehil> southern: do you use virtual terminals only?
[07:01] <southern> yes
[07:01] <Mantice> so does dapper support writing to NTSF drives yet?
[07:01] <thehil> southern: people from Kentucky are weird
[07:01] <wasabi> thehil: and get what from it?
[07:01] <Mantice> Is there a dapper channel?
[07:01] <thehil> southern: you should move to Washington.
[07:01] <Madpilot> Mantice, #dapper+1
[07:01] <thehil> wasabi: what was that?
[07:02] <Mantice> ty
[07:02] <Agent_bob> xnull that really depends on settings in mozilla.   it can be adjusted for disk space and time to keep cache   i think the defaults are pretty big  so unless you changed things you might find cache copies.
[07:02] <thehil> southern: try pine. It is a good program from MIT
[07:02] <southern> thehil: why?
[07:02] <Mantice> No one lives in that channel
[07:02] <thehil> southern: Sterotype. Just kidding.
[07:02] <Mr_Milenko> Does anyone here know where i can find FATX Modules for Ubuntu's Kernel
[07:02] <southern> :D
[07:02] <RailerJim> Anyone know why firefox in ubuntu does not allow me to fill in a flash form?
[07:03] <southern> I'm not from US
[07:03] <thehil> southern: Actually I know a Kentucky girl  who is pretty
[07:03] <thehil> southern: what the hack?
[07:03] <southern> I don't know her :(
[07:03] <southern> :D
[07:03] <thehil> southern: are you from south China?
[07:03] <Agent_bob> southern man sendmail && man sendmail.REAL
[07:04] <Madpilot> thehil, you can chat on #ubuntu-offtopic - thanks
[07:04] <thehil> southern: there are many mail client on the terminal that you can use
[07:04] <Mantice> How to I find my linux kernal?
[07:04] <wasabi> thehil: you told me to probe my hd
[07:04] <southern> ok but I need a mail server...
[07:04] <wasabi> thehil: what did you expect to find? dma is on
[07:04] <thehil> southern: back to the topic, both emacs and http://www.umbc.edu/pine.html will work
[07:05] <TheUnbeliever> Mantice: uname -a   as root/ sudo
[07:05] <thehil> wasabi: OK. That tells you if your hard drive is on DMA mode.
[07:05] <Agent_bob> southern procmail also.      apt-cache search mail
[07:05] <Syns> is there anything that i can use to download music from msn, like the media player?
[07:05] <thehil> wasabi: it should be on DMA mode; otherwise the speed is slow
[07:05] <southern> thank you Agent_bob
[07:05] <thehil> Syns: download music is stupid. Just listen online. Stream the mp3
[07:06] <thehil> Syns: make your xmms support mp3
[07:06] <TheUnbeliever> Mantice: correction sudo not required
[07:06] <Syns> stream the music from where?
[07:07] <Syns> i want the mp3s for a reason..
[07:07] <xnull> how do I make firefox logs everything I do?
[07:07] <Syns> perhaps i want to put it on my mp3 player
[07:07] <thehil> Syns: if you can tell me how to transfer a file to you, I can give you the playlist which has IP addresses to stream the music
[07:07] <jawbrkr> how can i count the number of empty lines in piped input? (without awk)
[07:07] <godmachine81> RailerJim:   do you mean that the fonts in flash arent appearing?
[07:07] <wasabi> thehil: yes, but dma IS on
[07:07] <southern> Agent_bob: what do think about exim?
[07:08] <Agent_bob> thehil /dcc send user file.name
[07:08] <thehil> wasabi: see if both HD's DMA are on
[07:08] <wasabi> they are
[07:08] <Agent_bob> southern i haint never used it.
[07:08] <concept10> How do I troubleshoot joystick problems?  I get this message: Feb 27 00:05:01 localhost kernel: [4307314.890000]  input: Gravis Gravis Xterminator Force as /class/input/input4   but it doesnt work with the game TORCS
[07:08] <southern> Agent_bob: which one r u using?
[07:09] <Agent_bob> mozilla-mail    no x on this box but i don't do my email junk from this boz anyway.
[07:09] <CaNsA> word
[07:09] <CaNsA> whats the key combo for dropping into console?
[07:10] <Agent_bob> CaNsA [alt]  [ctrl]  [f#] 
[07:10] <CaNsA> f what?
[07:10] <thehil> Agent_bob: How can I transfer files using /dcc in Gaim?
[07:10] <Mantice> TheUnbeliever, whats that for
[07:11] <Agent_bob> [f7]  is x  the first six are normally running getty
[07:11] <CaNsA> kk
[07:11] <CaNsA> cheersz
[07:11] <Mantice> Could some one tell me a easy way to write to NTFS drives
[07:12] <Agent_bob> thehil oh gaim.  sorry.  i missed that part.   i don't know gaim.  it sounds to much like aol for me to even want to see it.
[07:12] <CaNsA> bbiab
[07:12] <CaNsA> cheers Agent_bob
[07:12] <Agent_bob> ;)
[07:12] <TheUnbeliever> Mantice : use uname -a to find your Kernel ver.
[07:12] <Madpilot> Mantice, there isn't a safe one
[07:12] <ORiON2012> Mantice: samba
[07:12] <Agent_bob> TheUnbeliever -r
[07:13] <ORiON2012> Mantice: :), have you tried captive?
[07:13] <Agent_bob> TheUnbeliever -r = release
[07:13] <TheUnbeliever> -a works too
[07:13] <TheUnbeliever> more info though
[07:13] <Agent_bob> yep   more to sort through for the newbee
[07:13] <TheUnbeliever> eh..true
[07:17] <[-DevinE-] > ppl with channel is the wine help one ?
[07:17] <[-DevinE-] > coz #wine is empty
[07:17] <Madpilot> [-DevinE-] , you might as well ask here, it's not busy
[07:18] <[-DevinE-] > oky 10x
[07:18] <prada> anyone know of a good world clock app for gnome ... ala kworldclock style ?
[07:18] <braniff> after i change /etc/resolv.conf, what do i have to do to get the changes to "take effect" ??
[07:18] <[-DevinE-] > so i got wine and i wanna play a game .. and it tels me that he couldent load a dll
[07:19] <Agent_bob> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9420   lilo seems to spew chuncks if "device-mapper" isn't running.   that should not happen.
[07:19] <ufo> braniff: nothing
[07:19] <Madpilot> prada, gworldclock
[07:19] <b7j0c> hello, can someone answer a sound & video question?
[07:19] <prada> Madpilot: it's too minimal
[07:19] <elkbuntu> that's one thing i like about this community... if you have a question about a package such as wine, you dont often get told to stfu rtfm and go to the respective software's channel
[07:19] <prada> Madpilot: I have too keep adding the TZs ..
[07:19] <[-DevinE-] > i get this err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL
[07:20] <Madpilot> prada, aside from gworldclock, I've no idea - I wish there was a good Gnome TZ thing too
[07:20] <b7j0c> question - i am unable to play sound and video in dapper unless i run audio/video apps (ogg123, totem-xine) as root. any ideas why?
[07:20] <Madpilot> prada, my biggest beef- gworldclock can't do UTC/Zulu, which is just stupid...
[07:21] <prada> Madpilot: yeah , I kinda thougt they would have this covered in the default clock applet in gnome ..
[07:21] <CaNsA> Agent_bob, ur dcc working?
[07:21] <jetscreamer> !info tzconfig
[07:21] <prada> Madpilot:... that is kinda dumb ! :)
[07:22] <Agent_bob> b7j0c permissions on the device nodes ?     check to see if you are in the media group   or what ever it is in dapper.
[07:22] <b7j0c> thanks agent bob, i will check that
[07:22] <Agent_bob> CaNsA suer.  but my firewall is blocking it atm
[07:22] <CaNsA> kk
[07:22] <[-DevinE-] > Madpilot=> why dose my ubuntu start 2 gnome pilots and 3 gaim at start-up ??
[07:22] <CaNsA> i got a screeny of vmware-ubuntu, and its throwing an error at me
[07:22] <CaNsA> ill upload the shot to photobuck
[07:22] <CaNsA> brb
[07:22] <braniff> ufo, thanks
[07:23] <CaNsA> http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/cansaxbm/vmware-ubuntu.jpg
[07:23] <Madpilot> [-DevinE-] , probably because you've got a session set? System menu -> Prefs -> Session
[07:24] <RailerJim> Anyone know why firefox in ubuntu does not allow me to fill in a flash form????
[07:24] <[-DevinE-] > what shoul i turn-off ? autosave sesion
[07:24] <pendy> realy awsome that site you gave me
[07:24] <Mantice> ORiON2012, are you there man
[07:24] <Madpilot> [-DevinE-] , probably, if you've got it ticked. Check the 'Startup Programs' tab as well
[07:25] <mangelo> will an ubuntu live cd boot the kernel off the cd, cause i think my hd kernel is fubar'd
[07:25] <Mantice> RailerJim, That is possable but it would only happen on flash forms that are not compatable with firefox
[07:25] <[-DevinE-] > 10x Madpilot i think i got it ... and no apps in startup
[07:25] <Seyekoh> Looking for help.  I have an Asus A7N8X Deluxe nForce2 chipset (Realtek integrated audio)...  I cannot get any audio working.
[07:25] <Madpilot> mangelo, no
[07:25] <Mantice> RailerJim, It happend to my friends website but he was a bad coder :)
[07:25] <mangelo> bleh..hmm..
[07:26] <butchie> hey guys, i'm trying to install my nvidia graphics drivers and it wont work unless its running from the root folder.. how do i get it to run form the root ?
[07:26] <not_god> hey guys
[07:26] <not_god> how we doing?
[07:26] <Madpilot> !tell butchie about nvidia
[07:26] <Iceman> anyone using a dell and worked around the onboard video, and using a add on card ..
[07:26] <Mantice> butchie, Madpilot gave you a link follow the wiki carefully otherwise it will not work
[07:26] <mebaran151> I'm getting a weird error
[07:27] <mebaran151> ooffice is refusing to startup, saying it can't find a suitable windowing system
[07:27] <butchie> where's the link?
[07:27] <mangelo> how would i be able to restore my kernel? long story short an apt-get remove command trashed gcc, and linux headers
[07:27] <Agent_bob> mangelo sure the live can boot the kernel from the cd....  it can't very well boot the kernel from the hdd.....
[07:27] <braniff> RailerJim, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree <-- if you haven't already...
[07:27] <mangelo> aye, cd is boooted before HD in bios
[07:28] <butchie> ahh ok thanlot!
[07:28] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Can someone tell me how I can boot off Breezy Live CD from my iBook? I just got it today, and want to see how Breezy runs on it.
[07:28] <Mantice> Could some one give me some info about captive?
[07:28] <Madpilot> mangelo, the LiveCD is totally self-contained
[07:28] <mebaran151> any ideas
[07:28] <Mabus06> how do you unignore?
[07:28] <Nunquam_Fidelis> It doesn't boot from CD automatically.
[07:28] <Nunquam_Fidelis> apparently
[07:28] <Iceman> anyone got a dell, and installed ubuntu, nd then worked around the stupid onboard video ...
[07:28] <mangelo> i get into the live cd boot prompt, but i get the same kernel errors the hd kernel gives me
[07:28] <Seyekoh> anybody have experience getting nForce2 audio working?  I am stuck.  I searched google, forums, ... and now i am here.
[07:28] <FlannelKing> Iceman, I would think the BIOS would have some config stuff about using the onboard video
[07:29] <Madpilot> Seyekoh, mine works - always has in Ubuntu
[07:29] <redblade> While trying to run MySQL, I got this message:
[07:29] <braniff> Nunquam_Fidelis,  make sure you chose the livecd for your mac processor -- it's not 386 version
[07:29] <redblade> error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[07:29] <TheUnbeliever> Iceman : u disable the on-board vid within the BIOS?
[07:29] <Agent_bob> Mabus06 in xchat go to the ignore window.... in irssi or bx use  /ignore user none
[07:29] <Nunquam_Fidelis> braniff: it is.
[07:29] <[-DevinE-] > Madpilot=>  i cant boot windows anymore now ... it says i have a file missin (hal.dll) and its there.
[07:29] <mangelo> whoah! memtest is returning red! lots of it! i just booted into it....well i guess this is the reason
[07:29] <redblade> What is making this happen?
[07:29] <Nunquam_Fidelis> I ordered that Breezy 3-pack, one for 64, one for 386, and one for mac
[07:29] <Iceman> Cannot fully disable it, linux still installs to use the onboard reguardless of bios...
[07:29] <Madpilot> [-DevinE-] , it's been nearly a year since I last ran Windows, you'll have to ask someone else...
[07:29] <Seyekoh> Madpilot: if i go to System > Preferences > Multimedia Systems Selector and test.  They worked fine, no audio though...
[07:30] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Let's try this agian.
[07:30] <[-DevinE-] > dang :(
[07:30] <Seyekoh> Madpilot, i followed tutorials online, and ... still nogo
[07:30] <Iceman> so i need to install with the onbard ... then config the nvidia card ...
[07:30] <braniff> Nunquam_Fidelis, then it's a matter of making your iBook boot from cd 1st instead of hdd
[07:30] <Nunquam_Fidelis> braniff: Could you tell me how I go about doing that?
[07:30] <redblade> Anyone? I need some help with MySQL
[07:30] <Madpilot> redblade, #mysql
[07:30] <redblade> Madpilot, error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
[07:30] <RailerJim> braniff, I have flash installed
[07:30] <redblade> oh right
[07:30] <concept10> red-tag, I fixed that last night
[07:31] <braniff> Nunquam_Fidelis, dunno sorry dude
[07:31] <concept10> redblade, ^^
[07:31] <TheUnbeliever> Iceman: try that..i believe the ubuntu forums have a couple articles on that..
[07:31] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Curse you!
[07:31] <redblade> Thabks
[07:31] <redblade> Thanks
[07:31] <Asktool> * Helo
[07:31] <concept10> redblade, its a permissions problem
[07:31] <Iceman> or can i install and run 2x video cards....
[07:31] <Seyekoh> Madpilot, what mobo you using?
[07:31] <redblade> Permissions?
[07:31] <Agent_bob> Nunquam_Fidelis be nice.
[07:31] <RailerJim> how would I install another web browser off the net for unbuntu?
[07:32] <Madpilot> Seyekoh, we've got a couple of sound gurus here - I'm not one of them, though
[07:32] <redblade> Yo no comprendo
[07:32] <FlannelKing> RailerJim, which browser?
[07:32] <Agent_bob> Nunquam_Fidelis what trubble you having ?
[07:32] <Mantice> Firefox is your best bet... If it dont work with firefox it dont work...
[07:32] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Agent_bob: all in good spirits my man.
[07:32] <Asktool> I got a very easy question: I ran mysql, but how may I assign a password to the user ??
[07:32] <FlannelKing> Mantice, thats hardly true.
[07:32] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Agent_bob: I don't know how to change the boot order on my iBook.
[07:32] <Mantice> Unless its works for I.E
[07:32] <concept10> redblade, do this: sudo chmod -R 775 /var/run/mysqld/
[07:32] <not_god> i thought if i sat here and watched the room i could learn stuff
[07:32] <redblade> okay
[07:32] <not_god> now ai'm like 100% more confused
[07:32] <not_god> lol
[07:32] <Madpilot> RailerJim, there's a good Ubuntu wiki page for installing Opera
[07:32] <concept10> redblade, and then /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[07:32] <RailerJim> FlannelKing - Mozilla web browser
[07:32] <Mantice> Well thats my moto
[07:33] <Mantice> :)
[07:33] <RailerJim> or opera
[07:33] <Iceman> not_god hands on is the best way to learn ...
[07:33] <Madpilot> !tell RailerJim about opera
[07:33] <Mantice> opera :@
[07:33] <FlannelKing> He doesnt want opera.  He wants Mozilla.
[07:33] <not_god> well i got the OS installed
[07:33] <Agent_bob> Nunquam_Fidelis maybe hold down the left shift when you power on.   to get into bios      if it doesn't offer any hint as to another way.
[07:33] <not_god> but i installed it on a dual processor system
[07:33] <Tezkah> hi all!  I have a question that someone *has* to know in here.  How would one limit the length of Window titles?
[07:33] <not_god> so i don't think i installed the right thing
[07:33] <Artemis3> flash forms are evil anyway
[07:33] <Mantice> How do I update firefox
[07:33] <TheUnbeliever> whatever happened to ubuntuguide?...that was the greatest thing ever when i first started w/ ubuntu
[07:34] <concept10> redblade, did it work?
[07:34] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[07:34] <Mantice> Firefox = Out of date
[07:34] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[07:34] <RailerJim> well fx isnt working correctly so I wanted to try something else
[07:34] <Mantice> is there some sort of command to update it
[07:34] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Agent_bob: ty, will try this
[07:34] <Mantice> or some button
[07:34] <redblade> concept10, no
[07:34] <Tezkah> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:34] <Madpilot> !tell Mantice about ff1.5
[07:34] <Tezkah> Mantice, follow that guide
[07:34] <ubuntu_> M
[07:34] <concept10> redblade, it wouldnt restart?
[07:34] <not_god> for dual processor's i gues i need a i686 ISO right?
[07:34] <FlannelKing> RailerJim, Mozilla is in the repositories, if you still want to go with that.  But, Id try and fix FF first.
[07:34] <stan_> Is it possible to install limewire on ubuntu?
[07:34] <redblade> that's right
[07:34] <Mantice> firefox 1.5.1 is out now :)
[07:34] <Asktool> I rarely use mysql so I forgot :D
[07:34] <slew> hi, i did a fresh install, and before my video files had frames for the icon, now they dont. i dont see any place in nautilus to make it work, so does anyone know where i can turn this on?
[07:35] <Nunquam_Fidelis> what file system does os x use anyway?
[07:35] <Mantice> firefox 1.5.0.1 is out now :)
[07:35] <not_god> will the install be basicaly the same?
[07:35] <Madpilot> Mantice, see the URL the bot just sent you for FF1.5
[07:35] <Asktool> Nunquam_Fidelis: AFS
[07:35] <Nunquam_Fidelis> left shift didn't work... I don't think
[07:35] <Nunquam_Fidelis> hmph
[07:35] <Seyekoh> who can help me with audio?  I heard there were a couple gurus here... nForce2 chipset (manual says Realtek audio), on Asus A7N8X Deluxe.  I have no audio at all...
[07:35] <Asktool> Nunquam_Fidelis: err:  HFS  can be accessed with hfs-utils
[07:35] <redblade> stan_, it is
[07:36] <TheUnbeliever> not_god : instal normaly, then use synatic to get the newest smp kernel
[07:36] <Mantice> lol? For some reason, the mozilla.com build of Firefox is significantly faster than the default Ubuntu one.
[07:36] <Nunquam_Fidelis> hmm
[07:36] <Nunquam_Fidelis> hfs?
[07:36] <mik1> can someone help me out with ubuntu live?
[07:36] <not_god> Unbeliver do i need to run a diffrent install if i used the i386 one?
[07:36] <TheUnbeliever> no
[07:36] <Nunquam_Fidelis> mik1, what the prob?
[07:36] <not_god> oh ok
[07:36] <Agent_bob> slew it used to be in edit > optios (or preferances) and some place in that bunch of junk... but i don't use 'nome hardly at all.
[07:36] <stan_> is limewire an easy install?....download from their site?
[07:36] <mikebot> Nunquam_Fidelis: okay well i'm running it off the cd right now
[07:36] <redblade> not quite
[07:36] <not_god> so i should do a search on synaptic for SMP?
[07:37] <Mantice> I chmoded the opt dir to 777 im so smart
[07:37] <mikebot> Nunquam_Fidelis: will my settings and stuff not be saved when i reboot?
[07:37] <Nunquam_Fidelis> mikebot: breezy, or dapper?
[07:37] <mikebot> Nunquam_Fidelis: not sure, how can i find out?
[07:37] <Nunquam_Fidelis> mikebot: as far as I know, no
[07:37] <braniff> stan_: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_P2P_Gnutella_Client_.28LimeWire.29
[07:37] <redblade> stan_, you will need jre and I found it hard to install so I used Frostwire
[07:37] <TheUnbeliever> i think so...it's been a little while since i actually used ubuntu..
[07:37] <Agent_bob> mikebot no they wont.
[07:37] <mikebot> Nunquam_Fidelis: okay..also, everything is way too big for me..the resolution is the same as i used on windows (1024x..), but everythign is still so large, e.g.the screennames on aim and stuff
[07:38] <FlannelKing> JRE isn't hard.  And Azureus is so much better than LW.
[07:38] <slew> Agent_bob, i've looked thru those prefs a million times and still havent found it. =[
[07:38] <stan_> thanks
[07:38] <mikebot> also, will it be less laggy when i'm not running it from the cd?
[07:38] <FlannelKing> mikebot, that's because of the font and stuff.  Nothing to do with resolution.
[07:38] <not_god> Xeon Processor's the same as P3 or P4?
[07:38] <not_god> i have 2.0 ghz dual xeons
[07:38] <mikebot> FlannelKing: oh, i'll try changing it, thanks
[07:38] <Nunquam_Fidelis> mikebot: can you change it via system > prefs > screen resolution?
[07:39] <cafuego> netcat is better than limewire <heh>
[07:39] <Madpilot> mikebot, the LiveCD runs entirely off your RAM, so the installed version will be a LOT faster
[07:39] <Agent_bob> slew all i know is that it used to be there.  two years ago when i looked for it.
[07:39] <TheUnbeliever> kinda....i believe it is 64 bit...but it'll work fine w/a  32 bit kernel (the default one)
[07:39] <redblade> stan_, although a lot of people don't like automatix, I've had no problems with it and it comes with frostwire
[07:39] <mikebot> Nunquam_Fidelis: it's already at the highest
[07:39] <cafuego> not_god: The 2GHz ones will be P4.
[07:39] <concept10> redblade, what else did you do?
[07:39] <not_god> MAN i wish i have a G5 lol
[07:39] <redblade> a limewire clone
[07:39] <mikebot> FlannelKing: all the fonts are size 10
[07:39] <not_god> ok thanks caf
[07:39] <redblade> concept10, nothing why?
[07:39] <not_god> non-free Linux???
[07:40] <cafuego> not_god: If they're EM64T, they can also run amd64
[07:40] <mustard5> mikebot, you want them smaller?
[07:40] <Nunquam_Fidelis> mikebot: sometimes things seem "bigger" in linux, at least in my experience...
[07:40] <slew> Agent_bob, heh, thanks. maybe the new nautilus dosent support it anymore. =[
[07:40] <mustard5> mikebot, I would have trouble reading them if they were smaller :)
[07:40] <mikebot> mustard5:  yeah, 8 is okay i guess
[07:40] <mikebot> my reso doesn't seem like it's 1024, but it says it is
[07:40] <braniff> how do i ---> set up my /etc/resolv.conf so that i can have DNS resolution inside of the network i connect to by VPN ??
[07:40] <concept10> redblade, that should've worked for you. If you goto #mysql they will tell you its a permissions problem to.  What message did you get??
[07:40] <TheUnbeliever> not_god : don't use amd64 until u are a little more exerienced
[07:40] <mikebot> maybe it's cause i'm doing the live from the cd
[07:40] <cafuego> Nunquam_Fidelis: Usually a function of using 75dpi fonts in a 96dpi X or vice versa.
[07:40] <not_god> Non-free Linux 2.6.12 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP is this what i want?
[07:40] <Agent_bob> slew idk  *shrugs*
[07:40] <Madpilot> mikebot, System -> Prefs -> Font to change system-wide font prefs
[07:40] <redblade> ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[07:40] <mikebot> madi changed them all, thanks though
[07:40] <FlannelKing> mikebot, everything is bigger in linux.  Or at least, thats always how it feels.
[07:41] <cafuego> not_god: If you're after nvidia or ATI drivers, yes.
[07:41] <mikebot> FlannelKing: okay
[07:41] <Artemis3> hmm? you should try 75dpi fonts ^^
[07:41] <TheUnbeliever> not_god : non open source modules
[07:41] <mustard5> mikebot, what graphics card you using?
[07:41] <not_god> oh
[07:41] <not_god> i want open source
[07:41] <mikebot> um
[07:41] <mikebot> geforce 4, the crappier version
[07:41] <Tezkah> not_god, you have to compromise sometimes
[07:41] <concept10> redblade, are you on dapper?
[07:41] <TheUnbeliever> not_god : the stuff is still free
[07:41] <not_god> oh
[07:41] <Tezkah> open source only means no mp3s :(
[07:41] <Tezkah> just oggs (which rock, but dont work on my ipod)
[07:41] <Artemis3> false
[07:42] <concept10> Tezkah, and no dvds
[07:42] <cafuego> Tezkah: There's a free codec
[07:42] <redblade> concept10, breezy
[07:42] <mustard5> mikebot, k..that should install fine..you can install better nvidia drivers if you install
[07:42] <mikebot> mustard5: the AIM symbol next to peoples names in my buddy list is like 3/4 an inch tall
[07:42] <not_god> i thought i need the SMp for the dual processors?
[07:42] <mustard5> mikebot, thats normal for AIM :)
[07:42] <Agent_bob> Tezkah wav + zip
[07:42] <mustard5> mikebot, or GAIM I should say
[07:42] <Artemis3> lame is an foss proyect, the problem is the patent that some countries apply
[07:42] <mikebot> heh, but when i used gaim on windows
[07:42] <mikebot> it was much smaller
[07:42] <cafuego> Tezkah: There is a codec based on integer operations (slow) that is NOT covered by the MP3 patent.
[07:42] <TheUnbeliever> not_god : u don;t Need..but it is a good idea
[07:42] <mustard5> mikebot, might be configureable in the GAIM preferences ..I don't know
[07:43] <TheUnbeliever> allows u to actuall use both of them...
[07:43] <Tezkah> well mad says that it isn't infringing
[07:43] <not_god> Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP
[07:43] <not_god> that?
[07:43] <CaNsA> i have manages to install ubuntu in vmware
[07:43] <TheUnbeliever> i am running a dual core system.....kinda like yours
[07:43] <Tezkah> but with copyright law as it is, i doubt it
[07:43] <CaNsA> but...
[07:43] <mikebot> can i send you a screenshot of my resolution?
[07:43] <cafuego> Tezkah: Yes, that's the one.
[07:43] <CaNsA> when booting it doesnt take me to the gui
[07:43] <CaNsA> why is that?
[07:43] <fructose> Are there any sound pro's around? Myself and a friend are having trouble getting our sound cards to work properly. His isn't playing sound at all. Mine works only one application at a time and sometimes requires me to restart an application after killing all the others that use sound.
[07:43] <[-DevinE-] > if ubuntu shows HDA5 is it posible that that one is my 5th patition ?
[07:43] <not_god> Unbeliver, is that what i needed?
[07:43] <mikebot> well anyway, how can i make it so that i use ubuntu, and not always boot the live one off the cd?
[07:43] <Artemis3> its not the encoder, it is you who is supposed to pay the fee for using it... i dont live in those countries so i dont care
[07:44] <not_god> your running X2's u like?
[07:44] <Agent_bob> CaNsA server install ?
[07:44] <mustard5> mikebot, you sure you don't normally use 1280 x 1024 in windows?
[07:44] <ORiON2012> [-DevinE-] : yes
[07:44] <CaNsA> no mate
[07:44] <cafuego> not_god: I'll let you know once I buy it
[07:44] <CaNsA> full install
[07:44] <ORiON2012> [-DevinE-] : if it exists
[07:44] <mikebot> i might use 1280
[07:44] <Nunquam_Fidelis> Agent_bob: holding left shift only brought me into OS X's "safe boot" mode
[07:44] <[-DevinE-] > omg now i know why windows wount boot
[07:44] <TheUnbeliever> yep...x2 3800 oc'ed to 2.7ghz..me love..
[07:44] <mikebot> but it doesn't go that high on this
[07:44] <mikebot> for some reason
[07:44] <CaNsA> i think
[07:44] <CaNsA> brb
[07:44] <not_god> i want to get the 64 4400+ X2
[07:44] <Madpilot> mikebot, you'll need the Install CD
[07:44] <[-DevinE-] > its set on patition 2
[07:44] <not_god> havn't messed with that technology yet
[07:44] <mikebot> i download 2 huge files (~600 megs)
[07:44] <mikebot> one was this live iso
[07:44] <mustard5> mikebot, yeah..its going to take some configuring when you get it installed to get that resolution..but its doeable
[07:45] <FlannelKing> [-DevinE-] , hda5 is the first non-bootable partition.  It doesn't necessarily mean that 0-4 exist.
[07:45] <mikebot> the other was a file for VMware
[07:45] <not_god> i don't know how it performs
[07:45] <mikebot> is it neither of those 2?
[07:45] <ORiON2012> [-DevinE-] : the a is for first physical disk, the number is the partition number
[07:45] <Agent_bob> CaNsA look in /etc/rc2.d/  for a gdm link
[07:45] <Madpilot> mikebot, the install ISO is another huge thing, I'm afraid
[07:45] <mikebot> haha okay
[07:45] <mikebot> can i acces the fiels i have saved on my harddrive
[07:45] <[-DevinE-] > well let me explain my situation so u can gat it coz ita verry nasty
[07:45] <not_god> ok back to this, so i want to install this right? "Linux kernel headers 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP"
[07:45] <TheUnbeliever> i've never run a true dual cpu sys..so i couldn't give  a real comparison
[07:45] <mikebot> on this live version of ubuntu right now?
[07:45] <TheUnbeliever> yea
[07:45] <Madpilot> mikebot, you can mount harddrives, yeah.
[07:45] <cafuego> not_god: Should be relatively on-par with a dual 4200+ system I expect
[07:46] <mustard5> mikebot, on your windows drives?
[07:46] <Mr_Milenko> anyone know how to patch the kernel for FATX support?
[07:46] <Agent_bob> mikebot you surely can.   if you know how.
[07:46] <mikebot> yeah it's a windows drive
[07:46] <mikebot> i don't haha
[07:46] <Madpilot> mikebot, NTFS is read-only on Linux, though. MS don't tell anyone how to write to it...
[07:46] <mikebot> but i have a paper due tomorrow
[07:46] <not_god> i got lucky and picked this server up for nothing, like 200 bucks
[07:46] <mikebot> oh
[07:46] <not_god> i'm not use to having good technology lol
[07:46] <TheUnbeliever> o.0,,,,nice
[07:46] <CaNsA> Agent_bob, what would it look like?
[07:46] <mustard5> mikebot, might be a bad time to be experimenting on your computer ;)
[07:46] <Madpilot> mikebot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:46] <Mr_Milenko> NTFS isnt read only.. you CAN write to ti.. but its dangerous
[07:46] <not_god> i'm hoing i can make this a server
[07:47] <TheUnbeliever> it's not too hard..
[07:47] <not_god> basic small business like e-mail, dns, web stuff
[07:47] <[-DevinE-] > its easy
[07:47] <TheUnbeliever> just have to spend some time learning
[07:47] <mikebot> mustard5: haha yeah i know
[07:47] <pendy> i got this while installing the java sun
[07:47] <pendy> dpkg-deb: building package `sun-j2sdk1.5' in `/tmp/make-jpkg.XXXX7Nhb2h/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb'.
[07:47] <mikebot> mustard5: it's a procrastination technique
[07:47] <mangelo> haha, my linux is going nuck butty! all iwanted to do was turn this into a server as well :|
[07:47] <[-DevinE-] > i have linuc for 2 days and i did it in 3 minutes
[07:47] <mustard5> mikebot, hehehe
[07:47] <CaNsA> actually Agent_bob, i need more that 1gig part for ubunut in vmware right?
[07:47] <[-DevinE-] > linux
[07:47] <not_god> so even tho i installed desktop version it'll still work?
[07:47] <pendy> and it look stuck there nothing happenin
[07:47] <Madpilot> not_god, chat on #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[07:47] <FlannelKing> not_god, servers don't have to be too powerful, especially for a small audience, Ive got a 386 running just fine as a server.
[07:47] <mustard5> mikebot, well I would save the install until after you hand your paper in :)
[07:47] <TheUnbeliever> but then....i never set up a serverw/ ubuntu....i used debian....ubuntu should be even easier though
[07:47] <Agent_bob> CaNsA like a symlink   S63gdm   or some such   number is not important.    maybe  dm in place of gdm also
[07:47] <VIMmer> hi, i ripped a cd using grip, but i can't find where it dumped the files. Does anyone know?
[07:47] <Artemis3> 3minutes? is that what it takes to load the livecd?
[07:47] <mikebot> mustard5: yeah, that's probably the best thing to do
[07:48] <thelobster> hey
[07:48] <not_god> i'm explaining why i'm asking the question's i'm asking i don't quite understand how that is off topic?
[07:48] <pendy> while installing javasun i see now this dpkg-deb: building package `sun-j2sdk1.5' in `/tmp/make-jpkg.XXXX7Nhb2h/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb'. and it look stucks there nothing is happening, what is going on ?
[07:48] <FlannelKing> VIMmer, you can look in the grip configuration.  It defaults to ~ though
[07:48] <FlannelKing> VIMmer, erm maybe ~/mp3
[07:48] <pmallapp> !topic
[07:48] <thelobster> hey
[07:48] <not_god> ll
[07:48] <not_god> ol
[07:48] <pmallapp> help topic
[07:48] <thelobster> anyone have a dual display setup?
[07:48] <mikebot> how customizable is ubuntu?
[07:48] <not_god> nice try mall
[07:48] <CaNsA> i got S25mdadm
[07:49] <jerrod> why is my laptop screen brighter when i unplug the power cord.  If anything shouldnt it be the other way around?
[07:49] <mustard5> mikebot, linux is extremely customisable
[07:49] <Madpilot> mikebot, very
[07:49] <cafuego> mikebot: same as any other distro
[07:49] <TheUnbeliever> mikebot: very
[07:49] <not_god> uhm ok thanks for the help i'm gunna try this i'll be back when i have more questions
[07:49] <VIMmer> thx FlannelKing its in ~/mp3
[07:49] <not_god> happy now chat nazi's?
[07:49] <TheUnbeliever> gl non_god
[07:49] <mikebot> cafuego: never used linux before
[07:49] <mikebot> (distro=linux?)
[07:49] <pendy> while installing javasun i see now this dpkg-deb: building package `sun-j2sdk1.5' in `/tmp/make-jpkg.XXXX7Nhb2h/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb'. and it look stucks there nothing is happening, what is have to do now?
[07:49] <Agent_bob> CaNsA if there is no symlink in /etc/rc2.d/  to start a display manager *dm  that is why it doesn't try to start x    no mdadm is nothing to do with gsm
[07:50] <Agent_bob> err gdm
[07:50] <cafuego> mikebot: You can customise *everything* as long as you have time
[07:50] <CaNsA> kk
[07:50] <mikebot> cafuego: ah, okay
[07:50] <mangelo> haha, i typed "info" in a command line and i dont know how to get back to the input line..its some keypress i'm overseeing, anyone know?
[07:50] <jerrod> ?^^
[07:50] <mustard5> mangelo, the 'q' key
[07:50] <CaNsA> ill reinstall on a larger hdd
[07:50] <CaNsA> i think 9 ran out of space
[07:50] <CaNsA> i*#
[07:50] <mangelo> thanks
[07:51] <Agent_bob> CaNsA requires 1.8g  for default install
[07:51] <mikebot> is there a keyboard shortcut to move between workspaces?
[07:51] <CaNsA> oooo
[07:51] <CaNsA> cheers Agent_bob
[07:51] <Agent_bob> :)
[07:51] <mustard5> mikebot, ctrl  + arrowkey ?
[07:51] <Madpilot> mikebot, alt+ctrl+left/right arrow
[07:52] <mikebot> ah thanks
[07:52] <jerrod> any good power management programs out there?
[07:52] <mustard5> Madpilot, well I wasnt TOO far off :D
[07:52] <mustard5> hehe
[07:52] <mikebot> you should be able to go from 4 to 1 by going right
[07:52] <Agent_bob> [alt] +[f#] 
[07:52] <[-DevinE-] > i had ony 2 partitions (C: and d:) and i got windows XP on D: .... C: beeing the biggest i slited c into 2 patition ... one of it i'm using for ubuntu ... now in my c: patiton i have boot.ini but it tels that it should look in multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS for windows but because of the slpit i think the patition number changed
[07:53] <Mantice> Any one know how to write to ntfs drives?
[07:53] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, that doesn't switch between virtual desktops
[07:53] <not_god> ok one more quick question, is there a place i can go to verify that linux see's both processor's?
[07:53] <[-DevinE-] > Mantice=> u cant
[07:53] <mustard5> Mantice, ntfs write support is only experimntal and not reliable
[07:53] <[-DevinE-] > NTFS are read-only
[07:53] <jmcc> Is it possible to selectively install dapper packages to an otherwise breezy installation?
[07:54] <cafuego> captive ntfs can write to ntfs
[07:54] <jmcc> I've got sources.list with both releases, and apt.conf with APT::Default-Release "breezy", but it still wants to do a full upgrade
[07:54] <Mantice> My friend uses captive and it's fine
[07:54] <mustard5> jmcc, I've seen it done, but usually people no what they are doing
[07:54] <cafuego> but then, you can kill people by stabbing them. doesn't mean it's a good idea to do so.
[07:54] <mikebot> okay well thanksf or the help guys
[07:54] <[-DevinE-] > Mantice=> it could work but i may loose data
[07:54] <Agent_bob> Madpilot you were talking about desktops.......... oh !
[07:54] <mikebot> i gotta write a paper
[07:54] <Mantice> I herd that its going into next ubuntu
[07:54] <jmcc> mustard5: I do it that way with debian testing/unstable, but it doesn't seem to work the same way with breezy/dapper
[07:54] <mikebot> until next time
[07:54] <Mantice> Apparenly its stable as
[07:55] <TheUnbeliever> not_god : yea... the "system monitor" it is a gnome app...but i forget where it is
[07:55] <mangelo> im recovering my system from a rediculous crash, any resources(internet sites), or any help in getting an idea of where i have to go from here...i want to check what packages i already have installed (i see literally nothing in my directorys..yet i got a command prompt...so im confused)...ubuntu uses what kernel? (or how do i find it out through command line)
[07:55] <Madpilot> mikebot, np
[07:55] <cafuego> Mantice: In dapper? Not in there as of yet.
[07:55] <mangelo> 2.6.xxxxx?
[07:55] <Mantice> Some guy said it was
[07:55] <not_god> ok i found that and only see one so i must have done something wrong any suggestions?
[07:55] <mustard5> jmcc, breezy usually has 'backports' of dapper packages
[07:55] <Mantice> maybe its not there untill final release
[07:55] <southern> which one is the best linux security portal?
[07:55] <cafuego> Mantice: He didn't know what he was talking about then, it seems.
[07:55] <TheUnbeliever> make sure u installed the smp kernel
[07:55] <cafuego> Mantice: That's not how it works.
[07:55] <jmcc> mustard5: well, what I *really* need is subversion 1.3.0, which is in dapper, but not breezy
[07:56] <Mantice> ?
[07:56] <not_god> Synaptic is what i want to use for that right?
[07:56] <jerrod> mustard5: you've helped me many times before, my laptop is brighter when unplugged and i want to make it brighter when plugged in, any better program that will give me that option?
[07:56] <TheUnbeliever> yea
[07:56] <not_god> not add applications?
[07:56] <Mantice> Well its not like I can covert my ntfs drives
[07:56] <southern> which one is the best linux security portal?
[07:56] <Madpilot> not_god, for installing/deleting kernel stuff? yes
[07:56] <cafuego> Mantice: They don't quickly add features the day before release.
[07:56] <not_god> ok ty
[07:56] <Mantice> Im sure they will add it soon
[07:57] <Agent_bob> i've heard several people talking about mounting ntfs rw  with helper apps and without.....   afak  ntfs is officially  ro  in linux as of yet.   that doesn't mean it can't be written to it means it's not safe.
[07:57] <Mantice> No not days before release
[07:57] <[-DevinE-] > i got wine though synaptic ...
[07:57] <FlannelKing> Mantice, there's a freeze that happened last friday.
[07:57] <cafuego> Mantice: The last month or so before release, there's a feature freeze and ONLY fixes get in.
[07:57] <not_god> i want the kernal header version?
[07:57] <Artemis3> there is a way using wine and the win driver iirc...
[07:57] <Mantice> Freeze?
[07:57] <cafuego> ANyway, loading a damn windows driver in the kernel is UGLY
[07:57] <Mantice> !freeze
[07:57] <ubotu> Mantice: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:58] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule <-- Dapper timetable, if anyone is interested
[07:58] <FlannelKing> they freeze the programs, and work on just fixing bugs
[07:58] <jerrod> mustard5: you've helped me many times before, my laptop is brighter when unplugged and i want to make it brighter when plugged in, any better program that will give me that option?
[07:58] <Madpilot> Mantice, see the URL ^^^
[07:58] <Artemis3> almost like using an nvidia binary driver ;)
[07:58] <TheUnbeliever> not_god : kernel-image i believe
[07:58] <mustard5> jerrod, I have no idea on how to do that one :)
[07:58] <jerrod> ok thanx
[07:58] <jmcc> cafuego: heh--i just used ndiswrapper for the first time to use a WinXP wlan driver for a broadcom PCI card--works fantastic
[07:58] <mustard5> jerrod, it sounds quite wierd really
[07:58] <not_god> found it unbeliver ty
[07:58] <TheUnbeliever> np
[07:59] <Tezkah> for NTFS, you can try captive, i thought it was discontinued, but it looks active
[07:59] <not_god> will it need to reboot or start working right away?
[07:59] <TheUnbeliever> u will need to reboot
[07:59] <not_god> lol yes i'm a newbie
[07:59] <Madpilot> hi thoreauputic
[07:59] <not_god> ok i'm gunna reboot brb
[07:59] <thoreauputic> hi Madpilot :)
[08:00] <Agent_bob> best way i know to write to an ntfs partition is  'sudo dd of=/dev/hda1 if=/dev/zero '   assuming hda1 is htfs.....  ;)
[08:00] <Agent_bob> kids don't try that at home   ^
[08:00] <jmcc> ok, i'm a newbie to ubuntu (but not Debian or Linux).  dumb question: is running dapper at this point like running debian "unstable"?
[08:01] <Agent_bob> jmcc yes
[08:01] <Tezkah> more or less
[08:01] <jmcc> i mean, i'm pretty familiar with the differences between debian stable/testing/unstable
[08:01] <Artemis3> hmm
[08:01] <thoreauputic> jmcc: more or less - it's the development version
[08:01] <Artemis3> more less than more ^^'
[08:01] <Tezkah> its *almost* like they were changing it from sid to testing
[08:01] <TheUnbeliever> even more unstable then debian unstable imo
[08:01] <Artemis3> i tho it was based of sid...
[08:01] <FlannelKing> only more unstable right after a release
[08:01] <Agent_bob> but less is more than more.... cause more is less than less !
[08:01] <FlannelKing> erm, at the beginning of development
[08:01] <Tezkah> at any rate, it is much better than SuSE's beta
[08:02] <Tezkah> the latest one tries to format SWAP as NTFS
[08:02] <Tezkah> hahaha
[08:02] <FlannelKing> When they're just starting with new releases, lots of stuff is broken
[08:02] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: and most is more than more and less - more or less
[08:02] <thoreauputic> ;)
[08:02] <FlannelKing> and not just little breaks either
[08:02] <jmcc> oops, guess that was a loaded question :-)  thanks for the comments
[08:02] <Agent_bob> thoreauputic i've never ran "most"  what's it do ?
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: it has colours - I don't like it frankly ;-)
[08:03] <jmcc> i need subversion from dapper, and any dependencies it pulls in, but don't want to upgrade completely from breezy to dapper
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Agent_bob: worth a try but I stopped using it
[08:03] <Agent_bob> hmmm
[08:03] <jmcc> i know how to do this with debian to get an "unstable" package onto a testing release
[08:03] <TheUnbeliever> jmcc u could try building from source and using checkinstall
[08:04] <jmcc> but it doesn't seem to work the same way with ubuntu
[08:05] <jmcc> TheUnbeliever: yeah, I thought I could d/l the dapper source deb and recompile it on a breezy system and see if it will work with the breezy versions of its source dependencies...don't know if that will work
[08:05] <jmcc> but that's a lot of work if I can instead do some apt.conf magic and get the binary debs to install
[08:05] <TheUnbeliever> not raelly sure...i actually stoped using ubuneut about 4 months ago
[08:05] <TheUnbeliever> ....i am too tired to stay online i think
[08:06] <Agent_bob> [-DevinE-]  would you like to login and look around ?
[08:06] <Mantice> I think my firefox is broken
[08:06] <Mantice> oh Shit
[08:06] <Mantice> it is
[08:06] <Mantice> crap crap
[08:07] <Mantice> Why does every thing have to be installed via the console damit
[08:07] <Agent_bob> upgraded didn't you ?
[08:07] <Mantice> Yes :P
[08:07] <TheUnbeliever> heh
[08:07] <Madpilot> Mantice, you did see the large warnings on that FF1.5 page, didn't you?
[08:07] <Mantice> Nope
[08:07] <jmcc> well, off to experiment
[08:07] <sagarp> how can i find out what decoder i need to view a movie in linux?
[08:08] <Mantice> If I close this last firefox window I will kill my self
[08:08] <Mantice> oh shit
[08:08] <Agent_bob> !vlc
[08:08] <ubotu> somebody said vlc was a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[08:08] <thoreauputic> !tell sagarp about restricted
[08:08] <Mantice> It might work now
[08:08] <Mantice> OH CRAP
[08:08] <Mantice> Oh shit
[08:08] <Mantice> Im screwed now
[08:08] <Mantice> Help plz plz
[08:09] <Mantice> im ur friend
[08:09] <TheUnbeliever> gotta love dist-upgrading into unstable/ dapper
[08:09] <elkbuntu> mantice, calm down
[08:09] <Mantice> ok ok
[08:09] <FlannelKing> And, use complete sentences, or at least, complete phrases.
[08:09] <tuxcicles> TheUnbeliever, did it work so far?
[08:09] <sagarp> thoreauputic, i can play restricted formats, but i need to know what encoder was used on these files because they wont play
[08:09] <thoreauputic> !enter
[08:09] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:09] <Mantice> Is there a firefox Synaptic package manger download
[08:10] <pulver> TheUnbeliever: yea if one dont mess it up like i did =/
[08:10] <thoreauputic> sagarp: try running " file /path/to/file "
[08:10] <charon> I'm interested as to why ubuntu feels it a sane idea to release packages that don't have meet dependancies into the stable branch? case in point for today samba-common being to new for smbfs...
[08:10] <TheUnbeliever> wait...what?
[08:10] <elkbuntu> mantice what do you mean?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> sagarp: should give you an idea what you are looking at
[08:10] <farous> anyone know why a pdf file generated using latex which display perfect with adobe, evince won't print proparly even on windows printer? a graph won't print at all?
[08:10] <Mantice> You know how you can update programs / download through Synaptic manager
[08:11] <mustard5> Mantice, if you want to back out of the 1.5 installation you should read the full guide first
[08:11] <Madpilot> farous, evince has display bugs - use Adobde Reader
[08:11] <mustard5> Mantice, instructions for removal are at the end of the guide
[08:11] <Mantice> How can I .... Dont pick on me please :(
[08:11] <Syco54645> was wondering if someone could help me with the nvidia drivers.  when i use them i cannot use 1280x1024, it force 1280x968 and that is not what i want.  i can force it larger but then the display doesnt fit in the monitor and then it scrolls
[08:11] <farous> Madpilot: it displays perfect on evince and adobe
[08:11] <sagarp> thoreauputic, hmm that's weird...it's mpeg-1..mplayer plays it, but totem doesnt :/
[08:11] <bad_iNFO> <not_god, lol now it won't boot, don't i feel stupid
[08:11] <Mantice> There is no end of the guide :) its closed
[08:11] <mustard5> Mantice, install epiphany-browser through synaptic
[08:11] <thoreauputic> sagarp: are you using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine ?
[08:11] <Mantice> Hey I can reinstall firefox woot :)
[08:11] <[-DevinE-] > is cedega easyer 2 play games with ... should i buy it ?
[08:11] <farous> Madpilot: a minipage with pic in it will not print at all? I know this is a little offtopic but was hoping for a clue
[08:12] <tuxcicles> sagarp,  you can use w32codecs and use xine or mplayer instead of gstreamer - it will support most everything.
[08:12] <thoreauputic> sagarp: I suggest installing totem-xine
[08:12] <bad_iNFO> maybe i'll have to reinstall, should i DL the ISO for i686
[08:12] <bad_iNFO> ?
[08:12] <Mantice> Can you install the latest firefox browser through Synaptic ?
[08:12] <Madpilot> farous, I've created PDFs in Scribus that work in Scribus & Adobe Reader but not in Evince...
[08:12] <Madpilot> Mantice, no
[08:13] <Madpilot> not 1.5.x
[08:13] <bad_iNFO> Synaptic is the coolest thing i've seen
[08:13] <TheUnbeliever> bad_iNFO: when i (re)start ur comp the grub list should come up ....just pick your old kernel...
[08:13] <Jivenix> i just got my girly running linux
[08:13] <Jivenix> weeh
[08:13] <bad_iNFO> ok un thanks
[08:13] <Jivenix> ubuntu rather
[08:13] <Mantice> If I reinstall the ubuntu firefox will it work good :)
[08:13] <bad_iNFO> thank god
[08:13] <bad_iNFO> lol
[08:13] <elkbuntu> mantice it should
[08:14] <Mantice> Im a stupid ass ubuntu firefox is perfect :)
[08:14] <TheUnbeliever> it should work...unless u did something to it unknowingly
[08:14] <Mantice> and I can wait for april :S
[08:14] <mustard5> Mantice, if you don't follow the instructions for reversing the install of Firefox 1.5, you might have trouble :)
[08:14] <ebaad> hello every body
[08:14] <Mantice> I think its 2 late for that
[08:14] <sagarp> oh well
[08:14] <bad_iNFO> wow there's alot of kernals on there, like 6
[08:14] <ebaad> new b here
[08:14] <bad_iNFO> ut oh, is that bad? can i remove the extra's?
[08:14] <FlannelKing> Mantice, use curl to read the page ;) practice your HTML parsing skills.
[08:15] <tuxcicles> is dapper a mess or is it fairly frozen?
[08:15] <Agent_bob> Mantice you know what linux users do ?       they install software.
[08:15] <Mantice> Dont worry mustard5 thats what your for.
[08:15] <FlannelKing> tuxcicles, its fairly frozen.  Feature freeze was the 23rd.
[08:15] <Madpilot> bad_iNFO, you can remove old kernels
[08:15] <Mantice> Linux user's crash the software then try and fix it :)
[08:15] <batman> does anyone here know of a program similar to ndswrapper for dial up modems?
[08:15] <charon> batman, there is none
[08:15] <Mantice> Linux users install the real way
[08:16] <bad_iNFO> what do i use to remove old kernals? Synaptic?
[08:16] <TheUnbeliever> bad_iNFO: they won't hurt anything....just make sure u choose the one u want when u turn your computer on..
[08:16] <Agent_bob> batman winmodem ?
[08:16] <Madpilot> bad_iNFO, yes
[08:16] <charon> bad_iNFO, if you want
[08:16] <batman> Agent_bob, its an intel ham v2
[08:16] <Mantice> curl :)
[08:16] <ebaad> does any one know how to activate telnet on breezy
[08:16] <Mantice> I can write html
[08:16] <tuxcicles> FlannelKing, are you using dapper successfully
[08:16] <charon> FlannelKing, if drapper is frozen how will they release with gnome 2.14?
[08:16] <bad_iNFO> so if i'm running dual Xeon's can anyone tell me what kernal i should be running?
[08:16] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, they are always handy to boot up with if you have problems with another kernel
[08:16] <FlannelKing> tuxcicles nope.  I dont have a machine to play around with it.
[08:16] <bad_iNFO> ok thanks
[08:16] <pulver> which kernel modules are essential for ext3 anyway? can't get it right...
[08:16] <charon> ebaad, telnet address    should do it, in the cli
[08:17] <Mantice> curl dont work :(
[08:17] <thoreauputic> ebaad: don't use telnet - use shh - why do you want telnet BTW?
[08:17] <Mantice> how do i use cirl
[08:17] <Mantice> curl
[08:17] <Ma> beach
[08:17] <binarydigit> man curl
[08:17] <FlannelKing> charon, I believe that's one of the 'special circumstances'
[08:17] <thoreauputic> *ssh
[08:17] <charon> FlannelKing, ah so an unstable/rushed inclusion like last time...joy :)
[08:17] <Agent_bob> batman if wvdial can't find it you are probably not going to get it to work correctly batman
[08:17] <ebaad> but how can I test the ssh from windows machine
[08:17] <bad_iNFO> you guys rule, i don't know what i would do without your help thanks a bunch
[08:17] <Ma> shut up agent_bob
[08:17] <charon> ebaad, download some thing like putty (google putty)
[08:17] <FlannelKing> charon, no idea, I dont work here, I just keep my eyes open.
[08:17] <thoreauputic> ebaad: you can install putty on windows
[08:17] <Mantice> Yeah we do rule, Urh I mean you guys rule :)
[08:17] <ebaad> oh ok
[08:18] <Mantice> Puttys good
[08:18] <charon> FlannelKing, heh, I know, just a snide comment...kind of sick of ubuntu's rubbish package management standards :|
[08:18] <moofb> Hello all, I'm trying to install nvidia drivers, and I keep getting a '... nvidia.ko) No such device' error when I start X. Anyone know how to resolve that? (I've been through the forum a couple of times, and found nothing helpful)
[08:18] <ebaad> can I confirm on my linux machine that if ssh is working properly
[08:18] <Agent_bob> ma looking for an op are we ?
[08:18] <FlannelKing> ebaad, ssh to it
[08:18] <charon> ebaad, ps aux |grep sshd
[08:18] <charon> ebaad, if there is an ssh server running ssh is working
[08:18] <thoreauputic> ebaad: if you want to use putty to ssh to linux , you need to install openssh-server
[08:19] <reZo> :D
[08:19] <bad_iNFO> i must've choose a safe mode one cause my video's all emssed up
[08:19] <Mantice> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get it back
[08:19] <ebaad> it says root      7575     1  0 Feb25 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[08:19] <Mantice> I had one hell of a time with my ATi drivers
[08:19] <ebaad> that means it is running
[08:19] <thoreauputic> ebaad: yup it's running
[08:20] <ebaad> do u have an ssh client
[08:20] <Mantice> Is there any skins for ubuntu
[08:20] <Mantice> Its kinda brown :)
[08:20] <cafuego> !art
[08:20] <ubotu> art is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork
[08:20] <thoreauputic> ebaad: of course - ssh
[08:20] <FlannelKing> charon, where did they say 2.14 would be included?
[08:20] <pulver> Mantice: gnome-look.org
[08:20] <ebaad> can u test for my ip
[08:20] <cafuego> Mantice: Visit both those sites
[08:20] <Madpilot> !tell Mantice about themes
[08:20] <mustard5> Mantice, you have 'Themes' in your System>>Preferences menu
[08:20] <TheUnbeliever> bad_iNFO: u want a kernel w/ something like this in it 2.6.12-1-i686-smp i believe
[08:21] <bad_iNFO> ok ty
[08:21] <TheUnbeliever> not too sure on the current breexy kernel
[08:21] <TheUnbeliever> breezy*
[08:21] <bad_iNFO> ok another stupid question, can i run KDE and Gnome on the same install?
[08:21] <FlannelKing> bad_iNFO, yep.
[08:21] <mustard5> moofb, what method did you use to install?
[08:21] <charon> yes
[08:22] <pendy> now i  need some good help im trying to use wine to install a program. but  get that error: NSIS Error: Error writing temporary file Make sure your temp folder is valid. can someone pls help me ion that ?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> ebaad: appears to be OK
[08:22] <TheUnbeliever> heck..u kan mix them if u wanted to
[08:22] <Protocol1> bad_iNFO, yes
[08:22] <FlannelKing> charon, you have reference for the 2.14 thing?  Since I havent heard anything about it.
[08:22] <Mantice> Thanks guys real good help
[08:22] <kos> im getting bad flickering on my screen in X when i type and occasionally when i move my mouse around
[08:22] <kos> im using a SiS 661 card
[08:23] <Agent_bob> bad_iNFO you can install most if not all zapps on one install    only exception will be if one conflicts with another,  and that doesn't happen often.
[08:23] <kos> any specific driver i should load for X?
[08:23] <pendy> Im trying to use wine to install a program. but  get that error: NSIS Error: Error writing temporary file Make sure your temp folder is valid. can someone pls help me ion that ? pls
[08:23] <thoreauputic> ebaad: ssh connected to your IP (obviously  I didn't ry to log on ;-)
[08:23] <bad_iNFO> zapps?
[08:23] <charon> FlannelKing, ubuntu release cycle is molded around gnome release cycle...it is assumed that the newest version will be released in time with it
[08:23] <bad_iNFO> or jsut a typo??
[08:23] <TheUnbeliever> typo
[08:23] <mustard5> kos, not sure about drivers for the SiS 661, but you could switch to 'vesa' drivers while you are looking around perhaps?
[08:23] <Tomcat_> FlannelKing: This one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4#head-4676f2030c0340f7d840f9df828f992dc4b914a8
[08:23] <bad_iNFO> ok sorry man, i've learned lot's of new acronyms
[08:23] <Agent_bob> xapps   typo bad_iNFO
[08:24] <pendy> some one pls
[08:24] <thoreauputic> pendy: patience
[08:24] <mustard5> kos, anything showing up in your Xorg.0.log?
[08:24] <bad_iNFO> now if i wanted to install the KDE GUI, if that's right, can i do that from synaptic or do i need to do soemthign diffrent?
[08:24] <kos> mustard5, i dont really know what to look around FOR
[08:24] <TheUnbeliever> u kan use synaptic
[08:24] <thoreauputic> bad_iNFO: just install kubuntu-desktop
[08:24] <cafuego> bad_iNFO: just from synaptic; you'll want 'kubuntu-desktop'.
[08:25] <ORiON2012> pendy: tried #wine-hq?
[08:25] <Mantice> Is there some sort of program that alows you to tell the temputure of your computer on your desktop or maybe whats on tv?
[08:25] <mustard5> kos, would you be happy running 'vesa' drivers?
[08:25] <Agent_bob> bad_iNFO synaptic would be the preferred way....  also  sudo apt-get install kde-base   will work
[08:25] <cafuego> Mantice: Yes.
[08:25] <kos> mustard5, how much difference will it make?
[08:25] <ebaad> yup but I have this pc outside the dmz
[08:25] <cafuego> Mantice: 1) lm-sensors 2) a web browser
[08:25] <ebaad> does plink has a gui
[08:25] <mustard5> kos, probably no 3d acceleration
[08:25] <Mantice> Gnome looks like some Apple thing
[08:25] <pendy> nop never tried that
[08:26] <mustard5> kos, but have you got that now anyway?
[08:26] <cafuego> Mantice: that's the idea
[08:26] <Mantice> I dont have a "web browser"
[08:26] <Mantice> whats lm-sensors like
[08:26] <Agent_bob> bad_iNFO kde = k desktop environment      it's an  xapp.
[08:26] <Madpilot> !tell Mantice about sensors
[08:26] <kos> mustard5, i have no idea :) how do i tell?
[08:27] <Mantice> Please dont use !tell
[08:27] <pendy> is that a channel?
[08:27] <ebaad> hi thor r u syill there
[08:27] <Mantice> I dont have a web browser yet :)
[08:27] <thoreauputic> ebaad: yes
[08:27] <mustard5> kos, try running one of the opengl screensavers and see it they are reeeallly slow.. :)
[08:27] <bad_iNFO> sweet
[08:27] <Madpilot> Mantice, if you've really blown up Firefox, Opera is fairly easy to install...
[08:27] <thoreauputic> ebaad: I suggest tab completion ;)
[08:27] <ebaad> my pc is outside the dmz
[08:27] <thoreauputic> ebaad: and?
[08:27] <ebaad> does plink has a gui
[08:27] <Mantice> I really like firefox :)
[08:28] <asdffasdf> Please, sound on my ubuntu is one not good. I hear it like behind the wall.
[08:28] <ebaad> so u should be able to ping my machine
[08:28] <ebaad> and ssh into it too
[08:28] <ebaad> if i give you the ip
[08:28] <kos> mustard5, when i try play something on mplayer with the opengl driver and fullscreen it its REAAALY slow
[08:28] <kos> mustard5, does that count :)
[08:28] <thoreauputic> ebaad: I already told you - ssh connects fine
[08:28] <ebaad> i downloaded the plink, but the command line is no so clean
[08:28] <Agent_bob> asdffasdf alsamixer ?
[08:28] <bad_iNFO> unbeliver yuo still there?
[08:28] <thoreauputic> ebaad: Obviously I won't try to login
[08:28] <Mantice> Man firefox is deleting some ubuntu desktop thing
[08:29] <ebaad> sorry for bugging u so much
[08:29] <asdffasdf> ?
[08:29] <ebaad> it is ok
[08:29] <TheUnbeliever> kos: u souldn't use the opengl driver..it's pointless
[08:29] <TheUnbeliever> yea
[08:29] <Madpilot> Mantice, ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, you can remove it safely...
[08:29] <mustard5> kos, yeah..I would suspect your current drivers are not supporting 3d acceleration :)
[08:29] <thoreauputic> ebaad: it's OK - your sshd is configured and responding
[08:29] <kos> mustard5, so i might aswell use vesa?
[08:30] <mustard5> kos, well its worth a try to stop the flickering problem
[08:30] <ebaad> yes it is, thanks for the response
[08:30] <TheUnbeliever> bad_iNFO: i am still here
[08:30] <asdffasdf> what with alsamixer?
[08:30] <mustard5> kos, you can take your time exploring around on google for better solutions after that :)
[08:30] <Mantice> how to I chmod all the folders in side the folders
[08:30] <bad_iNFO> i messaged you back
[08:30] <bad_iNFO> i don't kow if you got it
[08:30] <mustard5> kos, do you know the command to reconfigure xorg.conf?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Mantice:  chmod -R
[08:30] <kos> mustard5, yeah ive looked but its vague
[08:30] <pendy> ............
[08:31] <Agent_bob> Mantice the way a metapackage works is;  it doesn't install any files it just adds dependancies so that the package manager will install "ALL" that it depends on.    i.e.  installing ubuntu-desktop installs all the default apps but removing ubuntu-desktop removes nothing.
[08:31] <kos> mustard5, i'll just edit the driver part in the xorg.conf file
[08:31] <jsestri2> hey can anyone tell me how to get ubuntu to mount a harddrive on startup?
[08:31] <Mantice> thats cool
[08:31] <fr500> hello
[08:31] <thoreauputic> jsestri2: put "auto" in your /etc/fstab
[08:31] <mustard5> kos, well I would do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg  but manually editing it might be ok
[08:31] <charon> jsestri2, add it to system -> administration -> discs
[08:32] <mustard5> kos, doh..I put a typo in the command
[08:32] <Agent_bob> Mantice ubuntu-base is the same on the cli level.
[08:32] <kos> mustard5, so i should use Generic VESA or Generic VGA?
[08:32] <kuja> Is there a simple command-line tool to take PNG screenshots of a desktop?
[08:32] <mustard5> kos, vesa
[08:32] <thelsdj> kuja: scrot
[08:32] <kuja> thelsdj: Thanks
[08:32] <TheUnbeliever> eh...i g2g...falling asleep at the kb....
[08:32] <TheUnbeliever> good luck bad_iNFO
[08:32] <Mantice> whats wrong with sudo chmod 777 -R
[08:32] <thoreauputic> kuja: sure - install imagemagick and do  ' import -window root foo.png "
[08:32] <bad_iNFO> thanks dude
[08:33] <kuja> thoreauputic: Thank you also
[08:33] <mikebot> i have one more question
[08:33] <mikebot> do i want to download the breezy badger, or the one below it?
[08:33] <pendy> do i have to wait for long time ?
[08:33] <Agent_bob> nice that's how many answers we have.
[08:33] <mikebot> haha
[08:33] <Mantice> opt chmod 777 -R
[08:33] <Mantice>  d
[08:34] <Agent_bob> !breezy
[08:34] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:34] <Mantice> opt chmod 777 -R
[08:34] <Mantice>  Whats wrong?
[08:34] <mikebot> !tell mikebot breezy
[08:34] <Agent_bob> breezy  is the current stable release
[08:34] <mangelo> in following a howto for setting up a network under ubuntu....i can skip the quota step based on the fact i want every user unlimited disk space (and acess)
[08:34] <mangelo> can i?
[08:34] <Tezkah> man, ubuntu gets made fun of a lot for the nude wallpapers, eh? :D
[08:34] <pendy> Im trying to use wine to install a program. but  get that error: NSIS Error: Error writing temporary file Make sure your temp folder is valid. can someone pls help me ion that ? pls
[08:35] <thoreauputic> Mantice: 1) bad idea 2) sudo chmod -R 777 /opt
[08:35] <kuja> Is it possible to take screenshots every hour if there is activity at the given time?
[08:35] <bjv> i am trying to tune my hard drive for working with apt-get. installing a package then purging it takes 22 seconds, subsequent install/purges take only 3.1 seconds
[08:35] <Madpilot> Tezkah, http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[08:35] <bjv> how do you flush memory?
[08:35] <kuja> Like mouse movements, key presses
[08:35] <Mantice> Its fine for me thanks dont worry
[08:35] <bjv> :\
[08:35] <thoreauputic> Mantice: but you should not use 777
[08:35] <Mantice> the worst I can do is delete them all
[08:35] <pulver> kuja: lol why you want to do that
[08:35] <kuja> pulver: A meter of my productivity :0
[08:35] <Mantice> So I dont have to use console to access it
[08:35] <Mantice> saves time
[08:36] <Mantice> and if i delete the directory im a stupid ass :)
 opt chmod 777 -R   <----   errr ah   man chmod   and use that spareingly
[08:36] <pulver> kuja: hehe ok sure it's possible
[08:36] <pendy> anyone can help me pls
[08:36] <Mantice> Im a n00b i know what im doing ok :)
[08:36] <kuja> pulver: Of course the timing part I can handle with cron, and I will be writing a Ruby script to put the shots in a directory of the right date (will probably go by days). Though, the activity part I don't quite understand.
[08:37] <Mantice> The opt directory had nothing in it so it should be all right
[08:37] <mikebot> does ubuntu not like c, and like python instead?
[08:37] <Mantice> I dont do that with system folders
[08:37] <Madpilot> Mantice, you've already borked Firefox. How many other parts of your install can you damage in one sitting? :P
[08:37] <kuja> Maybe I will have to run `xev` in the background and pipe its output somewhere.
[08:37] <mustard5> mangelo, noone answering you?
[08:37] <Agent_bob> Madpilot lots more......
[08:37] <pendy> how come no one answer me? i need help hellllllloooooo
[08:38] <Mantice> I thought firefox was a little out of date :) Im the kind of person who has to have the latest updates :)
[08:38] <thoreauputic> pendy: maybe no one curently has an answer?
[08:38] <mustard5> pendy, I don't have an answer sorry
[08:38] <Madpilot> Mantice, run Gentoo then :)
[08:38] <kuja> Mantice: Why use Ubuntu then? :P
[08:38] <mikebot> Manwhat's more uptodate than firefox?
[08:38] <pendy> i have the latest version
[08:38] <mikebot> Mantice: *
[08:38] <thoreauputic> pendy: and stop it please... there are other people here too you know
[08:38] <ebaad> Thanks Thos with putty works perfect
[08:38] <Mantice> Gentoo ?
[08:38] <Mantice> Ubuntu pwns
[08:38] <thoreauputic> ebaad: :)
[08:38] <kuja> Mantice: Gentoo has newer releases.
[08:38] <mikebot> i don;'t even know what gentoo is
[08:38] <kuja> Soo... if you want the new stuff, yeah :P
[08:38] <Mantice> So
[08:39] <insidious> gentoo is another distro
[08:39] <Agent_bob> pendy cause your nick is invisable in here.......   but seriously i don't drink wine so i cant help you with that.
[08:39] <rob__> Gentoo isn't exactly known for it's easy setup though, is it?
[08:39] <insidious> heh, nope
[08:39] <Mantice> Ubuntu pwns 1337 people
[08:39] <mikebot> what's a distro?
[08:39] <Madpilot> mikebot, it's another version of Linux, known for having to compile *everything*
[08:39] <mikebot> oh
[08:39] <kuja> rob__: Or timely setup.
[08:39] <insidious> Linux Distribution
[08:39] <pulver> kuja: activity? to little sleep here :)
[08:39] <mikebot> why was it compared to firefox?
[08:39] <Agent_bob> pendy there is a #winehq   i think.
[08:39] <Mantice> Lets just say Ubuntu is fine for me
[08:40] <kuja> mikebot: Because Gentoo makes newer releases to their package tree.
[08:40] <Madpilot> mikebot, "distro" is just slang for a version of Linux - Ubuntu, Gentoo, whatever
[08:40] <Mantice> So Im sure ubuntu will when it gets going
[08:40] <Madpilot> from distribution
[08:40] <mikebot> okay, and what is wine?
[08:40] <Mantice> I know some linux people who use like fedora core 4 with like 12000 updates lol
[08:40] <mikebot> i've only been a linux user for 45 minutes
[08:40] <insidious> it is used to run windows programs
[08:40] <insidious> some work
[08:40] <insidious> some don't
[08:40] <kuja> I think Ubuntu has yet to break away from Debian's untimely server-centric packages.
[08:40] <DigitalGheko> wine is a windows emulator
[08:41] <mikebot> ahhh
[08:41] <Mantice> mikebot, You have made your first step :)
[08:41] <Rob_Dude> Wine is a program that emulates the windows API's (at least I think)
[08:41] <insidious> wine is NOT an emulator
[08:41] <Madpilot> DigitalGheko, no it's not :P
[08:41] <insidious> hehe
[08:41] <Rob_Dude> Oh, nevermind
[08:41] <jesseman_> rofl DigitalGheko , wine is NOT an emulator
[08:41] <mikebot> so could i run itunes with wine?
[08:41] <Mantice> whats wine then
[08:41] <insidious> WINE stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator
[08:41] <jesseman_> ^^
[08:41] <Mantice> lol really
[08:41] <insidious> it's a re-implementation of the window API
[08:41] <kuja> WINdows Emulator :) j/k
[08:41] <mikebot> haha
[08:41] <jesseman_> NOT emulation
[08:41] <Madpilot> mikebot, I think so, yeah - it doesn't run everything from Windows, though
[08:41] <jesseman_> NOT NOT NOT
[08:41] <Rob_Dude> What's the technical definition of an emulator?  DOes it have to deal with hardware?
[08:41] <mikebot> is there an itunes equivolent for ubuntu
[08:42] <jerrod> how do I get the powe manager (gnome powermanager) to include options?
[08:42] <Mantice> Theres plently of altenratives to itunes... Linux / Ubuntu is about change :)
[08:42] <mikebot> oh also, is therea way to import my bookmarks from my windows firefox to my ubuntu one?
[08:42] <Mantice> Thats what I thought...
[08:42] <kuja> mikebot: There is a lack of a Linux iTunes implementation. I know some people who have been working on one.
[08:42] <DigitalGheko> Wine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X and Unix.
[08:42] <DigitalGheko> =P
[08:42] <thoreauputic> OK guys - wine is not an emulator but it works like one (for those not attuned to technicalitites) ;-)
[08:42] <kuja> Amaranth used to be working on one, but he's not here ATM.
[08:42] <mikebot> oh
[08:42] <Mantice> Dont worry about your I pod though theres programs for that
[08:42] <mikebot> whyh do you all use ubuntu over another distro?
[08:42] <jesseman_> mikebot, try gtkpod for itunes-linkeness
[08:42] <kuja> It was PyTunes, a Python version.
[08:42] <mikebot> Mantice: okay
[08:42] <kameron> mikebot, it works
[08:43] <mikebot> jesseman_: thanks
[08:43] <thoreauputic> mike4263: because we like it I guess ;)
[08:43] <Rob_Dude> I went with Ubuntu because I heard the install was great (and it was for me)
[08:43] <Madpilot> mikebot, there's something called SharpMusique for buying from iTunes store - never used it myself...
[08:43] <jesseman_> mikebot, not a problem
[08:43] <Mantice> Dont listen to me im crazy, Ill just brake your firefox :)
[08:43] <kuja> Rob_Dude: Not much different from a Debian install.
[08:43] <twodeko> anyone have any luck with XGL/compiz in XFCE4
[08:43] <pulver> mikebot: compiling apps takes time ;)
[08:43] <twodeko> got it working with breezy
[08:43] <twodeko> only in gnome though :/
[08:43] <kuja> Ubuntu is lacking a nice GTK/Qt  install interface, though.
[08:43] <bjv> how do you time multiple commands?
[08:43] <mikebot> is python better than C?
[08:43] <ndispooper> my ducky is floating upside down (in gkrellm plugin), is that bad?
[08:43] <thoreauputic> kuja: erm - Synaptic?
[08:43] <kuja> mikebot: They are uncomparable.
[08:43] <kameron> kuja, graphical installer interface is being actively developed
[08:44] <mikebot> kuja: how come?
[08:44] <Mantice> Freaken broadband = slow
[08:44] <kuja> thoreauputic: Talking about the boot disk, the replacement for debian-installer.
[08:44] <kameron> bjv, use the time command
[08:44] <bjv> time (com1; cmd2;)  does run both, but does not report the time it took
[08:44] <kuja> kameron: I heard. Something to look forward too.
[08:44] <mikebot> kuja: i know c, but i've never seen python
[08:44] <kuja> s/too/to/
[08:44] <Madpilot> mikebot, they're both programming languages, they both have their fans - and flamewars :P
[08:44] <jerrod> how do I get the power manager (gnome powermanager) to include options?
[08:44] <Mantice> ndispooper, how did you get a duck!
[08:44] <thoreauputic> kuja: ah I see - I believe Dapper has a GUI installer
[08:44] <mikebot> Madpilot: ah
[08:44] <kuja> Well, like I said, you can't really compare Python and C.
[08:44] <ndispooper> Mantice, plugin
[08:44] <Mantice> I want I want
[08:44] <[aJ] > How do I make it so a samba share is mounted at boot?
[08:44] <kuja> Python is a scripting language, because it's interpreted. It's going to be slower than compiled C code.
[08:44] <Rob_Dude> Does python even compile?
[08:44] <bjv> kameron: is there some singlequote trick or similar to run it with 2 commands to time, though?
[08:44] <Mantice> What does he do :)
[08:44] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, nevermind
[08:44] <kuja> Rob_Dude: Bytecode
[08:45] <rob> bah, stupid highlight
[08:45] <kameron> bjv hmm. read through the man file?
[08:45] <fr500> hello
 how do you time multiple commands? <--- time blah & time nother
[08:45] <bjv> kameron: it;s pretty short
[08:45] <kuja> thoreauputic: What's Dapper?
[08:45] <fr500> has anyone tried poptop in breezy, wont work for me
[08:45] <ndispooper> Mantice, gkrellm-bfm
[08:45] <mikebot> kuja:  what game is your name from, a final fantasy, right?
[08:45] <kameron> !dapper
[08:45] <mikebot> kuja:  the same one as jeva?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> kuja: new release in April
[08:45] <insidious> iTunes music player look-alike: Banshee
[08:45] <kameron> !tell kuja about dapper
[08:45] <kuja> mikebot: Jeva? Huh? My name is from FFIX, yes..
[08:45] <Mantice> !dapper
[08:45] <thoreauputic> kuja: Ubuntu 6.04
[08:45] <jochs> How do  disable the screensaver on the login screen?
[08:45] <insidious> supposedly interfaces with iPods too
[08:46] <insidious> was reading about it earlier today
[08:46] <kameron> bjv, let me try a few things, i'll get back to you in a second
[08:46] <kuja> Ah
[08:46] <bjv> k
[08:46] <kuja> Dapper, nice name.
[08:46] <jerrod> how do I get the power manager (gnome powermanager) to include options? plz help
[08:46] <bjv> Agent_bob: yeah, that wont work,  command 1 is an apt-get install and cmd2 is a --purge of the same package
[08:46] <mikebot> kuja: what's ruby
[08:47] <Revid> can I just ask a question or is a certain queue i need to go through?
[08:47] <kuja> mikebot: Like Python, a programming/scripting language (it is interpreted)
[08:47] <Mantice> How come when I restart my computer My Windows that I left open on my 2nd desktop stay there
[08:47] <Madpilot> Revid, just ask
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Revid: just ask
[08:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:47] <Revid> ok
[08:47] <kuja> I still don't want to take screenshots unless there is activity.
[08:47] <mikebot> kuja: would you recommend ruby or python if i wanted to learn one
[08:47] <kuja> So I won't have assloads of screenies while I sleep... :S
[08:47] <kameron> bjv, can you describe exactly what you want to do/
[08:47] <ebaad> I requested on the Ubuntu web site to send me the install disks, but never got them
[08:47] <Madpilot> Mantice, check your sessions - System menu -> Prefs -> Sessions
[08:47] <ebaad> any suggestion
[08:47] <kuja> mikebot: Whichever is comfortable for you. I prefer Ruby, but I also like Python
[08:48] <Mantice> What for
[08:48] <thoreauputic> ebaad: how long ago?
[08:48] <mikebot> kuja:  also, how come when i ran ubuntu live, when i was on one workstation and i opened something, then went to another station, it would open in the new workstation?
[08:48] <kameron> ebaad, be patient, they came to me. unless it's a no-no in your country.
[08:48] <bjv> kameron: id like to execute an apt-get install package, then an apt-get remove, and time how long the whole thing takes
[08:48] <kuja> mikebot: No one can decide for you what language to learn. You have to try yourself and get a feel for it.
[08:48] <ndispooper> i think my acpi is poopy, and my wifi as well :(
[08:48] <ebaad> about two weeks ago
[08:48] <mikebot> kuja: and will ubuntu run faster when i'm not running live off of a cd?
[08:48] <kameron> bjv.. well, you can do that.
[08:48] <bjv> how long the line:   apt-get install w9wm -y; apt-get remove --purge w9wm -y;          takes
[08:48] <mikebot> kuja: okay
[08:48] <thoreauputic> ebaad: it takes 4-6 weeks
[08:48] <thoreauputic> on average
[08:48] <ebaad> oh ok no problem
[08:48] <kuja> mikebot: Yes, Ubuntu will be faster on your harddrive.
[08:48] <Revid> I had a fedora server that crashed and I want to recover some data off of the hard drive.  I have an ubuntu computer that I plugged the drive into. I guess i just need to mount it and then copy the files over but i cannot find a good guide on how to mount a 2nd hard drive.
[08:48] <kuja> mikebot: Unless your CD read is faster than your harddrive.
[08:49] <ebaad> i also want to configure sendmail on my box
[08:49] <mikebot> kuja: and lastly, the max resolution on the live one was 1024x.. but iw ant to run at 1280
[08:49] <bjv> kameron: yeah? singlequotes and () didnt let me
[08:49] <eric_> hey guys
[08:49] <mikebot> kuja: do i jujst need to download nvidia drivers for unbuntu?
[08:49] <bjv> kameron: kind of hard to search google for "time"
[08:49] <eric_> im a new linux user, dont hurt me
[08:49] <kameron> bjv, lol, probably hey.
[08:49] <DigitalGheko> lo eric
[08:49] <ebaad> i have tried several tutorials but they seem to difficult
[08:49] <thoreauputic> ebaad: why not postfix? (Ubuntu uses postfix for preference)
[08:49] <kuja> mikebot: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx # then set your preferences in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:49] <DigitalGheko> !tell Revid about mount
[08:49] <kuja> Also, to use the nvidia driver you must first load it: sudo modprobe nvidia
[08:50] <eric_> I'm such a noob that i didnt check off multiple resolutions when i was installing ubuntu, so now i cant put up an uber reso
[08:50] <ebaad> oh ok I will try to install postfix and see if it works for me
[08:50] <r2ndom> how do i determine what mode i'm running X in?  vesa or nv ...
[08:50] <mikebot> kuja:  i didn't understand that
[08:50] <mikebot> kuja: i'll ask you again when i get the real unbuntu installed and working
[08:50] <Tezkah> r2ndom, you could check your xorg.conf file
[08:50] <eric_> Anyone know how to add screen resolutions?
[08:50] <Madpilot> eric_, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:50] <mikebot> kuja: thanks for all the help
[08:50] <mikebot> everyone thanks
[08:50] <Revid> DigitalGheko: thanks
[08:50] <ebaad> if i try to install the postfix it is asking for the cdrom
[08:50] <kuja> mikebot: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo modprobe nvidia && sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf # and edit your xorg.conf
[08:50] <Mantice> Thats ok
[08:51] <Mantice> Im glad firefox still works,
[08:51] <jsestri2> hey, does anyone know how to find out what pipeline gstreamer happens to be using?
[08:51] <kameron> bjv, time sudo apt-get install packagename ; time sudo apt-get remove packagename -y
[08:51] <DigitalGheko> Revid, np
[08:51] <bjv> kameron: yah, that's about as close as i could get
[08:51] <kameron> bjv, i had to look for the -y option, to assume yes for any questions, or else it waits for user input.
[08:51] <Mantice> Ok where did firefox Go
[08:51] <kameron> bjv, what's wrong with that?
[08:51] <ebaad> can a cdrom with iso file can work
[08:51] <Mantice> I deleted the old short cut
[08:51] <batman> can someone how i install a .gz.sh file?
[08:51] <ebaad> for installing postfix
[08:51] <Mantice> How do I get to it ... Sorry about enter :9
[08:52] <bjv> the 1st time is in between the 2 apt operations
[08:52] <kameron> batman, yes.. but it should be .sh.gz
[08:52] <kuja> batman: gunzip && sh?
[08:52] <Mantice> FFS
[08:52] <kameron> bjv, you want a total for both.. add them together?
[08:52] <Mantice> Im going back to windows
[08:52] <bjv> i know ive seen time run 2 commands with parentheses.
[08:52] <Mantice> to fix firefox for linux
[08:52] <batman> kuja, yes its a q3 demo
[08:52] <Mantice> brb
[08:52] <kameron> bjv, notice how i wrote time twice
[08:52] <mikebot> night everyone
[08:52] <thoreauputic> ebaad: postfix is on your install CD if I remember correctly
[08:52] <DigitalGheko> Mantice, don't do it! lol
[08:52] <Rob_Dude> Wow.  I'm impressed.  I just plugged my digital camera into my computer...and I got a pop-up window asking me if I wanted to import my digital media
[08:52] <Mantice> lol :)
[08:52] <Rob_Dude> Man, it can't get any easier than that.
[08:52] <Mantice> I have to do it now
[08:52] <Mantice> cos dads been waiting
[08:52] <bjv> yeah, ive seen:        time{cmd1;cmd2;}
[08:52] <Mantice> ill be back soon k
[08:52] <bjv> or something, (that one doesnt work)
[08:52] <DigitalGheko> hehe
[08:52] <DigitalGheko> cya
[08:52] <ebaad> i used apt-get to install the postfix
[08:53] <ebaad> is there a website i can download the postfix
[08:53] <oneko> hi. i have a weird network issue with my ubuntu machine. I can ssh into the machine and do anything I want, however, no OUTGOING connections from the machine can be made. Any ideas?
[08:53] <Rob_Dude> I wonder if Linux can handle my MP3 player....
[08:53] <ebaad> or if the iso file with breezy cd can work
[08:53] <thoreauputic> ebaad: if you installed it it is already there :)
[08:53] <kuja> Rob_Dude: More like, can your MP3 player handle Linux :)
[08:53] <batman> kameron, so how do i go about doing this install?
[08:53] <kameron> bjv, hmm, okay.
[08:53] <kameron> batman, what install?
[08:54] <kuja> Tidus: Give me Rikku or Yuna.
[08:54] <oneko> Yuna.
[08:54] <batman> kameron, its a q3 demo install the file is a .gz.sh
[08:54] <kuja> Tidus: Give me one of those nicks, you hogger.
[08:54] <oneko> Rikku is... weard.
[08:54] <oneko> weird even
[08:54] <Tezkah> haha
[08:54] <Tezkah> Rikku > Yuna
[08:54] <kameron> batman, oh right.. try ./filename after it's unpacked.
[08:54] <oneko> you don't know anything.
[08:54] <oneko> anyway
[08:54] <oneko> any ideas about the network issue?
[08:54] <oneko> it could be a faulty cable
[08:54] <kuja> I swear, I've been developing a test IRC lib in Ruby, called Rikku, and I wanted to name the bot Rikku too.
[08:54] <thoreauputic> ebaad: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix  to tweak your postfix install
[08:54] <kameron> batman, but are you sure it isn't a .sh.gz?
[08:54] <ebaad> I searched in Add app window and it does not show up in the search result
[08:54] <batman> kameron, it won't let me use archive manager so do i just gzip it?
[08:54] <kuja> And I swear, this Tidus guy has all the FFX char names registered.
[08:55] <oneko> heh
[08:55] <oneko> FFX isn't that good, really, though
[08:55] <Rob_Dude> So, um, I realise that just by needing to ask this question; I'm grossly underqualified to really understand the response...but I've done lots of programming with .Net and some C++, but never anything other than boring desktop apps.  What does it take to write a hardware driver for Linux?
[08:55] <oneko> it's no 6 or 7
[08:55] <batman> kameron, linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh is the exact filename
[08:55] <oneko> but enough offtopic chat
[08:55] <oneko> brb
[08:55] <kameron> oneko, go to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[08:55] <ebaad> i tried that, but it says post fix is not installed
[08:55] <kameron> batman, weird
[08:55] <thoreauputic> ebaad:  then run  sudo apt-get install postfix
[08:55] <progrock> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my AMD64 system... but when the installation gets to "Starting the partitioner" it jsut sits at a blue screen
[08:56] <batman> kameron, do i run gunzip in terminol to unpack it?
[08:56] <kameron> batman, yes.. try "gunzip filename"
[08:56] <ebaad> it is asking for the /cdrom/ for breezey
[08:56] <thoreauputic> ebaad: BTW its postfix, not  post fix
[08:56] <kameron> !tell ebaad about easysource
[08:56] <ebaad> yes i cut paste your post
[08:56] <thoreauputic> ebaad: do you have the CD?
[08:57] <ebaad> i have it but I have to look for it
[08:57] <batman> kameron, says unknown suffix ignored
[08:57] <ebaad> with the iso image file
[08:57] <kameron> batman, i figured, because it should be .sh.gz. try renaming it to that.
[08:57] <kameron> batman, where did you get this file, link?
[08:57] <kameron> batman, and did you try ./filename ?
[08:57] <mustard5> Rob_Dude, seems its more complex than anyone here knows :)
[08:57] <batman> kameron, fileshack.com
[08:58] <moofb> how can I see what version a module has?
[08:58] <kameron> Rob_Dude, yeah dude, that's pretty high level. i know there's a book on it.. called.. writing linux drivers.. or something to that extent.
[08:58] <thoreauputic> ebaad: if not,  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of the CD line, then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install postfix
[08:58] <Rob_Dude> I figured it would be a real pain to do.  Again, I don't have the slightest idea of where to even start - but I have a feeling you'd need to have some documentation that only the manufacture could provide
[08:58] <Rob_Dude> but I could be wrong about that.
[08:58] <kameron> Rob_Dude, you're half right. manufacturer docs help, but a lot of drivers are written from reverse engineering.
[08:59] <batman> kameron, it says its not in gzip format
[08:59] <Mantice> Dont worry guys I never went into windows
[08:59] <kameron> batman, could you link me to the file?
[08:59] <batman> ermm
[08:59] <batman> possibly
[08:59] <Mantice> Dad got pissed off :)
[08:59] <eric_> Hello again
[08:59] <mustard5> greetings eric_
[09:00] <eric_> i need help :-p
[09:00] <Tidus> kuja:  i'll give you Yuna... i don't use that name anymore
[09:00] <kuja> Tidus: kay
[09:00] <Rob_Dude> kameron:  Hmm, man, that sounds pretty friggin cool.  I think that should become my new goal in life, lol
[09:00] <kuja> Thanks
[09:00] <Rob_Dude> Well, that, or going to bed sometime before the sun comes up.
[09:00] <Tidus> kuja:  now lemme figure out how to unreg a name
[09:00] <Rob_Dude> Either or and I'd be happy
[09:00] <mustard5> eric_, describe your problem and see if anyone knows the answer :)
[09:00] <kuja> Tidus: Privmsg me when you're done :)
[09:00] <Mantice> How to I start firefox
[09:00] <yoyo> mmmm hello everybody
[09:00] <Revid> DigitalGheko, in the guide u suggested I skipped the set up drive and format disk sections since it is already ext2 or 3.  but when i do "sudo mount /dev/sda /backup" it says "you must specifiy the filesystem type"
[09:00] <eric_> I'm such a noob that i didnt check off multiple resolutions when i was installing ubuntu, so now i cant put up an uber reso
[09:00] <yoyo> I have a little question on irc clients
[09:01] <Mantice> I just screwed up trying to install firefox and ive just uninstalled
[09:01] <eric_> I tried a link i was provided with earlier
[09:01] <Mantice> and reinstalled
[09:01] <Mantice> and it crashes
[09:01] <eric_> but no luck
[09:01] <batman> kameron, can't find it in the history sorry
[09:01] <eric_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:01] <kameron> eric_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:01] <kameron> batman, okay, brb
[09:01] <Fredde> I need some help with my resolution on the screen
[09:02] <yoyo> mmm.... which command I have to use to list the servers or channels whatsoever
[09:02] <yoyo> in an irc client...
[09:02] <batman> kameron, wait i found it
[09:02] <LasseL> is there some sort of guide for building an ubuntu system on older hardware, with icevm and such?
[09:02] <batman> kameron, its http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=63
[09:02] <Agent_bob> bjv have you got it worked out yet ?
[09:02] <yoyo> something in the like of "list #servers" or whatever...
[09:02] <Fredde> After I have installed openbox, my screen is 640x480
[09:02] <Fredde> Do I have to log in as root to change it?
[09:02] <tuxcicles> Mantice, why don't you remove the .firefox/ directory - maybe that will help - rm -r .firefox/
[09:02] <Fredde> Beacuse now 640x480 is the only options avaible
[09:03] <Rob_Dude> OH, oh oh, I know this one, ummm
[09:03] <Mantice> where from tuxcircles?
[09:03] <thoreauputic> LasseL: basically you do a "server" install , then sudo apt-get install icewm x-window-system-core xterm gdm
[09:03] <Rob_Dude> Edit the /etc/x11/ er crap, lemem go look
[09:03] <Madpilot> Fredde, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:03] <eric_> kameron, should i enable the kernel framebuffer device interface?
[09:03] <kameron> eric_, uhhhhhhhh. sure?
[09:03] <Fredde> Madpilot: thanks
[09:03] <eric_> rofl
[09:03] <Madpilot> Mantice, from your own home directory
[09:03] <kameron> eric_, sounds like something you should enable? sounds awful nice.
[09:03] <tuxcicles> your $HOME/ directory
[09:04] <eric_> indeed it does
[09:04] <thoreauputic> LasseL: then apt-get whatever you need - you will probaly need to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg too
[09:04] <bjv> Agent_bob: no :\
[09:04] <LasseL> thoreauputic, ok, I was just hoping for something more fancy ..
[09:04] <kameron> bjv, try searching tldp or linuxquestions
[09:04] <yoyo> mmm.... anyone?
[09:04] <Mantice> I dont have a firefox directory im my Richard Directory
[09:04] <yoyo> please... just the server list from a client
[09:04] <thoreauputic> LasseL: if you like xfce4 , do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <Agent_bob> bjv may i sujest you time an open command with the -w switch.     time open -wc33 -- your command ; second command.
[09:04] <yoyo> in order to know where do i have to connect
[09:05] <thoreauputic> LasseL: runs well on old HW
[09:05] <Rob_Dude> Fredde:  I'm a newbie...but I think this is what you want  "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  You can set the available resolutions in that file
[09:05] <LasseL> thoreauputic, no, sorry I hate xfce :>
[09:05] <thoreauputic> LasseL: OK :)
[09:05] <tuxcicles> Mantice, it is probably hidden - thus the .dir
[09:05] <Agent_bob> maybe escape the ;   bjv ^
[09:05] <Madpilot> Mantice, it's hidden - hit Ctrl+H in Nautilus
[09:05] <Rob_Dude> er, bah, I'm probably wrong, lol.  I dunno wtf I'm doing
[09:06] <kameron> batman, http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/quake3arena/linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.txt
[09:06] <eric_> kameron, thanks a bunch man
[09:06] <Fredde> Rob_Dude: all the options is correct in xorg.conf
[09:06] <kameron> eric_, you betcha
[09:06] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, well, that's certainly beyond me :(  Sorry
[09:06] <ebaad> coool, i think i have installed it, but not sure if configured correctly
[09:06] <eric_> i need to restart for the effects to take place?
[09:06] <Mantice> Nope not there
[09:06] <Mantice> but thats for the Ctrl + H thats helpfull
[09:07] <batman> kameron, so?
[09:07] <kameron> batman, it's a readme file :D
[09:08] <batman> kameron, want to help me find q3 arena demo for linux been terrible finding one >.<
[09:08] <kameron> batman, third time asking you.. have you tried './filename'
[09:08] <Mantice> Oh crap it still crashes
[09:08] <batman> kameron, yes
[09:08] <Mantice> how do I fix it :(
[09:08] <kameron> batman, no go?
[09:08] <Mantice> Where does it install to ?
[09:08] <batman> kameron, exactly didn't do anything
[09:08] <yoyo> please
[09:08] <kameron> batman, okay
[09:08] <thoreauputic> LasseL: even if you hate xfce4, you can simplify matters by using xubuntu-desktop. then install icewm if you prefer it (depends which apps you need really)
[09:09] <yoyo> server list in irc client?
[09:09] <yoyo> is there a command or something?
[09:09] <Revid> I am trying to mount a 2nd hard drive that is from a fedora machine.  I need to backup the files on it.  I tried to mount it in ubuntu and I get "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" after typing "sudo mount /dev/sda /backup
[09:09] <mustard5> yoyo, there is a command...I just can't remember it atm
[09:09] <mustard5> yoyo, what irc client you on?
[09:09] <Fredde> I'll try if it works now
[09:10] <mustard5> yoyo, ooopps...I'm thinking of a channel list
[09:10] <batman> kameron, so you be kewl and help me find quake 3 arena demo for linux :)
[09:10] <yoyo> that's it mustard5
[09:10] <yoyo> exactly... the channel list
[09:10] <yoyo> i'm using a naim client
[09:10] <LasseL> thoreauputic, good idea, didn't think of that
[09:10] <bjv> Agent_bob: bingo!     time { apt-get install w9wm -y; apt-get remove --purge w9wm -y; }
[09:10] <mustard5> yoyo, hmmm..no options for displaying channel list in that?
[09:10] <yoyo> but I don't find the command
[09:10] <thoreauputic> yoyo:  /list  (but freenode has thousands of channels )
[09:10] <bjv> Agent_bob: took _just_ the right amount of whitespace
[09:10] <tuxcicles> Mantice, my bad, you need to delete the .mozilla directory
[09:10] <Fredde> Perfect, it worked
[09:11] <eric_> who wants to help me install xgl
[09:11] <eric_> ;)
[09:11] <yoyo> thoreauputic... /list throws a "Unknown command"
[09:11] <Fredde> Is xgl stable yet?
[09:11] <eric_> who cares
[09:11] <yoyo> maybe naim is a poor thin client
[09:11] <Madpilot> 3004 channels on Freenode right now! :0
[09:11] <eric_> its awesome
[09:11] <eric_> :-p
[09:11] <yoyo> I thought it was light and complete
[09:11] <Fredde> eric_: I can't wait for the stable release
[09:11] <ebaad> Thanks Thor, I got the postfix install, and will get the configuration from website
[09:11] <Mantice> Could some one please help me out with removing and reinstalling firefox?
[09:11] <thoreauputic> yoyo: get a real irc client then ;-)
[09:12] <Agent_bob> yeah bjv i was just playing with []   hehhe you beet me to {}   but i think i can get []  to work also.
[09:12] <yoyo> hahahahaha
[09:12] <eric_> fredde i cant wait more than you because i want to install the unstable version
[09:12] <yoyo> I need one in console-mode thoreauputic
[09:12] <bjv> Agent_bob: well, it's cool that it worked
[09:12] <yoyo> any advice on that?
[09:12] <thoreauputic> yoyo: irssi
[09:12] <tuxcicles> Mantice, did you delete .mozilla
[09:12] <mustard5> yoyo, irssi ?
[09:12] <Revid> can anyone help me with my question?
[09:12] <bjv> Agent_bob: found that syntax actually from searching linuxquestions like suggested
[09:12] <thoreauputic> yoyo: it's installed by default
[09:12] <eric_> ;)
[09:12] <Mantice> have now
[09:12] <Fredde> eric_: I don't wan't to .... up my system
[09:12] <yoyo> wow
[09:12] <yoyo> ok... let me check that
[09:13] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: heh
[09:13] <Fredde> eric_: I'm not that good at linux
[09:13] <eric_> Does anyone know how to install xgl?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I'm on xchat BTW at the moment
[09:13] <yoyo> thank you guys
[09:13] <Mantice> Now what tuxcircles?
[09:13] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, sorry, just messing with XChat - haven't used it much
[09:13] <jochs> How do I disable the screensaver on the login window? (If someone answered, I apologize - computer lost power for a few minutes)
[09:13] <yoyo> i'll try that, i'll have to disconnect
[09:13] <yoyo> thanks a lot
[09:13] <mustard5> Fredde, there is a thread in the ubuntu forums on the subject
[09:13] <kameron> bjv, what is the syntax?
[09:13] <Mantice> Should I use Synaptic to reinstall it?
[09:13] <Fredde> mustard5: about what?
[09:13] <jsestri2> any recommended music players?
[09:13] <bjv> kameron: time { cmd1; cmd2; }
[09:13] <kameron> jsestri2, xmms
[09:13] <wolfy> external USB drives, can they be automounted when you plug them in?
[09:13] <mustard5> Fredde, about installing xgl on dapper
[09:14] <kameron> bjv, i thought you told me that it didn't work earliar? lol
[09:14] <bjv> kameron: exactly that much whitespace
[09:14] <Madpilot> jsestri2, Rhythymbox or Muine
[09:14] <Fredde> mustard5: I'm not going to, it was eric_
[09:14] <kameron> bjv, ohhh, you missed spaces
[09:14] <bjv> kameron: no, i had the } touching the ;
[09:14] <bjv> yeah :
[09:14] <Fredde> I like openbox at the moment
[09:14] <kameron> bjv, silly error :P
[09:14] <Fredde> Well see how I do
[09:14] <jsestri2> i'm looking for the one with the best interface to browse lots of music...i have a bit of a collection
[09:14] <Fredde> we'll*
[09:14] <kameron> wolfy, AFAIK, yes
[09:14] <ebaad> where can I get the dapper install file, can breezy be upgraded to dapper
[09:14] <tuxcicles> Mantice, one way is as good as another
[09:14] <wolfy> but no real idea on how kameron? ;)
[09:14] <mustard5> Fredde, woops sorry..I see now where I misread who asked the question :)
[09:15] <Revid> I am trying to mount a 2nd hard drive that is from a fedora machine.  I need to backup the files on it.  I tried to mount it in ubuntu and I get "mount: you must specify the filesystem type" after typing "sudo mount /dev/sda /backup
[09:15] <kameron> jsestri2, a lot of them work fine, i have 2000 songs in xmms i think
[09:15] <Mantice> I dont know when ever I think that I know whats best It screws up :(
[09:15] <mustard5> Revid, what is the filesystem?
[09:15] <kameron> Revid, do you know the filesystem type?
[09:15] <Revid> EXT2 or 3
[09:15] <kameron> Revid, and you probably want to "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /backup"
[09:15] <Revid> it was fedora core 2
[09:16] <Mantice> How To I start Firefox now tux I dont have a short cut no more :(
[09:16] <jsestri2> kameron: ok cool, i happen to have 5000+ so ease of browsing is an issue for me
[09:16] <thoreauputic> Revid: probably ext3
[09:16] <jsestri2> hahah
[09:16] <kameron> jsestri2, there's tons out there, xmms, amarok, openbox, etc
[09:16] <Madpilot> Mantice, it should be in your Applications menu...
[09:16] <thoreauputic> Revelation: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/foo /mount/point
[09:16] <Revid> I can tell you the results of the lshw -C disk
[09:16] <Madpilot> jsestri2, rhythymbox
[09:16] <batman> does anyone here have quake 3 for linux?
[09:17] <Mantice> That one crashes
[09:17] <kameron> !tell jsestri2 about players
[09:17] <Agent_bob> Revid  sudo fdisk -l       and get the address  then     'sudo mount /dev/<address> /mnt/<mountpoint> '
[09:17] <tuxcicles> Mantice, right click on the task bar and add to panel
[09:17] <Mantice> Yep
[09:17] <Mantice> I edited some link thing
[09:18] <Mantice> When I was trying to upgrade firefox
[09:18] <Mantice> wheres firefox located tux?
[09:18] <tuxcicles> Mantice, why were you updating firefox and how?
[09:18] <Revid> Agent_bob, that worked, it is sda1, like kamerons said too.  thanks guys
[09:18] <Mantice> Firefox out of date
[09:18] <Mantice> So I went to wiki
[09:18] <Mantice> and it screwed up
[09:19] <Mantice> Firefox boot = crash
[09:19] <Mantice> Still does
[09:19] <tuxcicles> <:P
[09:19] <Mantice> :)
[09:19] <kameron> Revid, word up
[09:19] <Mantice> So wheres firefox located ?
[09:19] <dsl1221> hi all
[09:19] <Mantice> home .mozilla ?
[09:19] <kameron> Mantice, /usr/bin
[09:19] <dsl1221> ummmm a very tricky question if someone knows something
[09:20] <Agent_bob> Mantice " ls -l `which firefo[tab_key] ` "
[09:20] <tuxcicles> you could try command line and type 'which firefox'
[09:20] <dsl1221> about sharing internet connections
[09:20] <kameron> dsl1221, just ask
[09:20] <dsl1221> at home
[09:20] <dsl1221> thanks kameron
[09:20] <dsl1221> so... I have an ubuntu-box with DSL internet access
[09:21] <dsl1221> I have an old win98 pc, and I want to be able
[09:21] <Rob_Dude> A Q for those of you that are still dual-booting or use Windows from time to time.  Do you find that things are just 'harder' in Linux; not because of your lack of knowledge (right now, everything is hard because I don't know anything about Linux) - but because Linux isn't mainstream enough?
[09:21] <dsl1221> to browse the web using win98 too
[09:22] <kameron> Rob_Dude, a few multimedia based things are more difficult, but i've been using unix for 5 years, and everything is easier, faster, stabler, more secure
[09:22] <Agent_bob> Rob_Dude no.
[09:22] <Mantice> Hey hey guys
[09:22] <Mantice> I think I got it working
[09:22] <Tezkah> rob, i dont know if its harder, because i find that its much harder for me to wait on my windows xp install to draw the control panel than it is to open up a terminal and start typing
[09:22] <Mantice> Yay
[09:22] <Rob_Dude> Haha, fair enough :)
[09:22] <Mantice> My Applications ---> internet links to firefox
[09:22] <kameron> Rob_Dude, some licensing makes things difficult though. like including plugins and support for proprietary formats, it's hard to do, so you have to go get that all on your own, ubuntu makes it very easy though.
[09:23] <colm_asleep> dsl1221, have you considered crossover office to run your win98 progs?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:23] <Mantice> how to change it to link to firefoxubuntu
[09:23] <Rob_Dude> But man, no joke, it took me a good 45 minutes to get this Citrix client up and running and I swear, the difficulties weren't because of Linux
[09:23] <dsl1221> colm_asleep, the thing is (I forgot to mention it) I will
[09:23] <dsl1221> install linux ther too
[09:23] <Rob_Dude> Or even, my lack of knowledge of Linux - but client software they vendor provided just doesn't work as good in Linux as it does in Windows
[09:24] <dsl1221> so I need to establish some network config between 2 of them
[09:24] <canllaith> Heya, does the ubuntu live cd come with f-spot ?
[09:24] <Aegir> Rob_Dude: Yes, at first I shared that viewpoint. Especially while I was dualbooting. After a while the 'Linux Way' just becomes natural. You get quite used to having to do some pretty convoluted things to get somthing to work. There is a lot of reward when you finally achieve somthing. I gladly swapped my frustrations with Windows for the difficulty associated with Linux.
[09:24] <colm> dsl1221, 2 machines?  vmware?
[09:24] <dsl1221> ok ok colm
[09:24] <Tomcat_> canllaith: f-spot is in universe, which is not on the LiveCD. But you can install it on the LiveCD.
[09:24] <dsl1221> I have two physical machines
[09:24] <Aegir> Rob_Dude: Also, after quite a while the 'convoluted way of doing things' becomes quite natural.
[09:24] <Rob_Dude> I had to download a root CA from Entrust, downloaded it to the correct folder and then rename it from a .cer file to a .crt
[09:24] <dsl1221> one has DSL access
[09:25] <dsl1221> the other doesn't
[09:25] <Rob_Dude> But without any documentation on how or why to do it.  You'd think the client would take care of that.
[09:25] <dsl1221> I need to do something about routing-masquerading-thing
[09:25] <Rob_Dude> Or maybe I"m just being short-sighted
[09:25] <Mantice> Man could some one tell me how login to sudo GUI way ?
[09:25] <dsl1221> both will have linux
[09:25] <canllaith> Tomcat_: eh, not good enough I'm afraid. Ok. Do you happen to know if it's on the mono live cd that's based on ubuntu ?
[09:25] <dsl1221> one has already ubuntu
[09:25] <godmachine81> the show desktop icon doesnt show properly show on my theme of choice, how can i assign the "showdesktop" buttom its own icon without doing it through the gnome themes?
[09:25] <Tomcat_> Mantice: gksudo or ksudo
[09:25] <colm> dsl1221, so you want to connect one machine to the internet via a dsl modem and the other to share.  which box has access?
[09:25] <Mantice> Thx
[09:25] <Tomcat_> canllaith: No, don't know.
[09:25] <dsl1221> the other will too soon
[09:26] <dsl1221> the one with ubuntu has DSL modem
[09:26] <dsl1221> the one i'm using now
[09:26] <Mantice> Tomcat_ dont work?
[09:26] <Tomcat_> Mantice: Actually, not sure about "ksudo"... :\
[09:26] <Tomcat_> Mantice: Well, what are you trying to do?
[09:26] <Mantice> Nope
[09:26] <godmachine81> ugh... i meant the show desktop doesnt show up with the icons i chose in themes.. it is a lil white paper with a red x
[09:26] <Mantice> sksudo works but I need a command or somthing
[09:26] <colm> dsl1221, first I'd say consider getting a dsl router.  cheap and very effective
[09:26] <kameron> godmachine81, right click it
[09:26] <Jivenix> is it better to do x forwarding or terminal services between two ubuntu machines
[09:26] <Mantice> I wana do it in a GUI
[09:26] <Tomcat_> Mantice: Well, sure... you run "gksudo <command>" to run the command as root.
[09:26] <dsl1221> really cheap?
[09:26] <Mantice> Cos I have a whole lot of files to move around
[09:27] <dsl1221> colm, can't I use some features about routing in ubuntu?
[09:27] <Mantice> gksudo <command>
[09:27] <Tomcat_> Mantice: You want to move files in a GUI and you need root rights for that?
[09:27] <Mantice> Yeah
[09:28] <godmachine81> kameron:   there isnt a properties option by right clicking, only help, about, remove, move, and lock to panel
[09:28] <colm> dsl1221, yes, you can - simplest option is router, so I always recommend
[09:28] <Mantice> sure
[09:28] <Tomcat_> Mantice: Use "gksudo nautilus" then. I suggest using the console though, because it's easy to break something in nautilus.
[09:28] <dsl2> dsl router... uummmm
[09:28] <kameron> godmachine81, i don't run gnome, i was just guessing.
[09:28] <Mantice> I brake every thing using the console so its not going to make a difference
[09:28] <kameron> godmachine81, kde, you right click, then navigate the options
[09:29] <Agent_bob> Rob_Dude well seeing that everyone else is going to give the long answer, i guess i will too.   i have had mor frustration and time spent trying to setup hardware in windows than in linux.   but as far as things being "harder" you make linux what you want it to be.  if you want point and click you make it that.  if you like "order me dude" you write scripts and use the cli....   any geek worth his salt will tell you that th
[09:29] <dsl2> colm, andy DSL trademark?
[09:29] <Agent_bob> is the real strength of the system
[09:29] <Tezkah> in XFCE you do a little dance and then it works perfectly
[09:29] <dsl2> any DSL trademark?
[09:29] <canllaith> oh well thanks for your help there Tomcat_ :)
[09:29] <Rob_Dude> Yeah, eh, I guess I just want it both ways.  I used to love Windows, until I got a job maintaining a bunch of Windows Server 2000s....
[09:30] <Tezkah> haha
[09:30] <Rob_Dude> I like a GUI when I wnat to do something on one computer.  But when I have to do it on 40, I want to be able to script it.
[09:30] <Tezkah> I used to like Windows, until I started doing tech support :P
[09:30] <colm> dsl2, ?
[09:30] <aslkzxmn> hello all
[09:30] <Tomcat_> I was actually quite happy with Windows the last months... then I had to connect WinXP with Apache mod_dav this weekend. It's just not possible.
[09:31] <dsl2> yeap colm
[09:31] <thebeanba1> If you partition your hard drive with the ubuntu installer, will it delete or wipe the data from my windows partition? please help
[09:31] <dsl2> I mean... do you have a dsl router?
[09:31] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  well, if you want a GUI, then it is simple to program one for you, and voila no need for a term
[09:31] <Rob_Dude> You can script a lot in Windows, WMI is really useful, but there are still lots and lots and lots of options and settings you can't see or change using scripts.
[09:31] <Tomcat_> Microsoft breaks the WebDAV standard in so many ways, I guess there's no good code left.
[09:31] <Mantice> Ok
[09:31] <Rob_Dude> But, at the same time, I think everything you can do in a script, you should be able to do in a GUI too.
[09:31] <Agent_bob> thebeanba1 it can.
[09:31] <colm> dsl2, oh right, well adsl in my little village, but yeah
[09:32] <Mantice> How to I change where the Applications ---> internet ---> firefox goes
[09:32] <Rob_Dude> But yeah, without a doubt I am impressed with Ubuntu and Linux in general.
[09:32] <Mantice> how do i edit the short cut
[09:32] <dsl2> I mean... you said DSL router....
[09:32] <Agent_bob> thebeanba1 it all depends on what you tell the installer to do.
[09:32] <aslkzxmn> i get some trouble ...,i try  to compile my c file,  recent,  but it doesn`t
[09:32] <dsl2> yeahhh... here is ADSL too
[09:32] <aslkzxmn> do you know what is wrong with my machine
[09:32] <DaleStan> Any hints on where might I find rename(1)? I installed the server version of Ubuntu, but it does not come with rename, and sudo apt-get install fileutils did exactly nothing. (It selected coreutils instead and then informed me I had the latest version of coreutils.)
[09:32] <dsl2> before it was something as SDSL.. but that really was not cool
[09:33] <colm> dsl2, a program like firestarter makes this setup easy
[09:33] <dsl2> colm, i'm really not following
[09:33] <Madpilot> Mantice, right-click on the menu title, select Edit Menus, then find your Firefox entry, right-click on that for Properties
[09:33] <Tomcat_> DaleStan: "man 1 rename"? Works for me, and I didn't install anything else.
[09:33] <dsl2> firestarter is a firewall...
[09:33] <thebeanba1> agent_bob: is there a guide somewhere that will show me how to dual boot winxp and ubuntu without losing my xp instalation?
[09:33] <Madpilot> !dualboot
[09:33] <ubotu> it has been said that dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[09:33] <colm> dsl2, sudo apt-get install firestarter
[09:33] <Agent_bob> DaleStan apt-cache search is your friend.
[09:33] <colm> dsl2, http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php
[09:33] <dsl2> colm, I have already firestarter running
[09:33] <Madpilot> thebeanba1, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[09:34] <colm> dsl2 if you want to go down the connection sharing route, look in the options - connection sharing
[09:34] <Agent_bob> DaleStan also setup apt to use the repos
[09:35] <colm> dsl2, when you said "trademark" - did you mean brand?  i.e. which company makes my router?
[09:35] <Agent_bob> thebeanba1 try !duel boot  ?
[09:35] <Mantice> Thanks Madpilot
[09:35] <dsl2> colm... that's right
[09:35] <Madpilot> Mantice, np
[09:35] <dsl2> colm... a brand, a brand
[09:35] <Rob_Dude> Can you join a Windows Server 2003 domain with a Linux PC?
[09:35] <pontusen> Agent_bob means !dual boot
[09:35] <kameron> Rob_Dude, yes
[09:35] <Rob_Dude> Nice
[09:35] <colm> dsl2, My router is a no-name brand from dabs.com.  Their own, called dabsvalue.  Very cheap, very good!
[09:36] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, duel boot - that's where the two OSes fight, right? :P
[09:36] <Mantice> I guess nothing in the rest of my linux life will be harder than installing ati drivers :)
[09:36] <Rob_Dude> Haha, is there anything Linux *can't* do? ;)
[09:36] <pontusen> Mantice,  it ain't that hard
[09:36] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, it's very bad at catching viruses :P
[09:36] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  get a virus?
[09:36] <Mantice> Linux is not very good at crashing :(
[09:36] <devilish> witam
[09:36] <kameron> Mantice, nvidia for the win.. i tried typing "teh" like three times, but xchat corrected it damn.
[09:36] <pontusen> Madpilot,  damn :P
[09:36] <colm> dsl2, http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3RDR&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=dabsvalue+adsl&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0
[09:36] <dsl2> colm, ooohhh yeahhh, now i'm following
[09:36] <Agent_bob> yeah yeah yeah..... well it looks like the info node is gone anyway....
[09:36] <Mantice> ;P
[09:37] <Mantice> ATi FTW !!!!!!!
[09:37] <colm> ooh, sorry for that ugly long url  ;(
[09:37] <Rob_Dude> Haha
[09:37] <Mantice> ATi has security chips thats why its so hard to install....
[09:37] <Mantice> :) :)
[09:37] <devilish> Problem mam
[09:37] <Agent_bob> thebeanba1 but man grub     can help you some.
[09:37] <devilish> wczoraj zainstalowalem Ubuntu
[09:37] <devilish> a potem KDE
[09:37] <Agent_bob> and there is a wiki on dual booting thebeanba1
[09:37] <devilish> i teraz nie moge korzystac z kosza
[09:37] <devilish> ani nie widze dyskow
[09:37] <Madpilot> !pl
[09:37] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[09:37] <Mantice> Ok down to some real buissness how do I install that duck thing :)
[09:37] <pontusen> Mantice,  it ain't hard. just edit kernel, then install the drivers, edit your xorg.conf and you're done
[09:38] <Mantice> my xorg.conf wouldent work cos i needed to put a hash infront of somthing
[09:38] <Madpilot> Mantice, search Synaptic for 'duck' - you'll only get two entries
[09:38] <Rob_Dude> Er, but in all seriousness; if you were to 'sudo' some program you downloaded - wouldn't that program have the access to edit/overwrite anything on the system?
[09:38] <Mantice> btw guys im not a 4 year old :)
[09:38] <Agent_bob> somebody find that wiki on bual booting xp and linux   and we'll add it to the info nodes.
[09:39] <Rob_Dude> Or is the anti-virus kinda aspect of it more advanced than that?
[09:39] <jlund> What is the equivalent package to FFmpeg in Kubuntu on Dapper AMD64? I have some Xvid videos that I encoded in k3b before upgrading on this new system and Kaffeine is only playing audio at the moment.
[09:39] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  sure
[09:39] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, try "!dualboot"
[09:39] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, that's why you stick with the stuff in Ubuntu's repositories
[09:39] <Mantice> My duck dont came up :(
[09:40] <Rob_Dude> Gotcha - that makes sense.
[09:40] <Madpilot> Mantice, it's called "bubblefishymon"
[09:40] <Agent_bob> Madpilot did you just add that.   i did try that a minute ago.
[09:40] <Mantice> dont worry
[09:40] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, nope, it's a old one
[09:40] <Mantice> Synaptic Package Manger is crashing or its searching :)
[09:41] <[-DevinE-] > Madpilot=>  what dose " /Steatlh 85.197.82.131 " do ?
[09:41] <thebeanba1> thank you for the help everyone, will try it out tonight
[09:41] <thebeanba1> im at work now
[09:41] <Mantice> Ducks installed how to I boot him
[09:41] <Madpilot> [-DevinE-] , I haven't a clue - what's that from?
[09:42] <Madpilot> Mantice, type "bubblefishymon" in a terminal
[09:42] <Rob_Dude> Is there an equivalent to 'Start / Run' in Ubuntu?
[09:42] <[-DevinE-] > Madpilot=>  donno .. a dumb friend seaz that it floods :(
[09:42] <pontusen> rob,  well, there is alt-f2 in GNOME...
[09:42] <[-DevinE-] > Rob_Dude=>  yes terminal
[09:42] <Madpilot> [-DevinE-] , don't try it here then...
[09:42] <Rob_Dude> A perfect
[09:43] <bad_iNFO> question, what's the best file system to use?
[09:43] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  don't mistake gnome for ubuntu...
[09:43] <bad_iNFO> for your boot partition
[09:43] <[-DevinE-] > Madpilot=>  i wount :) but he seaz it a terminal command
[09:43] <Rob_Dude> Er, yeah, bah, I'm getting them all mixed up
[09:43] <Mabus06> wasn't [-DevinE-]  banned already today?
[09:43] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  ext2
[09:43] <unstable> Does ubuntu package gnash?
[09:43] <Rob_Dude> gnome is like the....'Shell'?
[09:43] <Madpilot> [-DevinE-] , I really don't know
[09:43] <bad_iNFO> ok ty
[09:43] <[-DevinE-] > Mabus06=>  lol what for ?
[09:43] <Rob_Dude> er, bah, what is gnome?
[09:43] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, Gnome is the visible desktop stuff, more or less
[09:43] <Mabus06> I don't recall but you definately were banned today.
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Rob_Dude: the desktop
[09:43] <Mantice> Ok bublefishy mon was like WTF ?
[09:44] <jlund> What is the equivalent package to FFmpeg in Kubuntu on Dapper AMD64? I have some Xvid videos that I encoded in k3b before upgrading on this new system and Kaffeine is only playing audio at the moment.
[09:44] <pontusen> rob,  gnome is the window manager, what you see. ubuntu works without you seeing it
[09:44] <Mantice> at least he does somthing cool like measure cpu usage
[09:44] <Rob_Dude> And Ubuntu includes gnome.
[09:44] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  correct
[09:44] <Rob_Dude> and that other Ubuntu (Kubuntu) includes KDE
[09:44] <Seveas> unstable, not yet
[09:44] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  you got it :)
[09:44] <thoreauputic> Rob_Dude: yes - for more info visit http://xwinman.org  ;)
[09:44] <Mantice> Kubuntu is like crap right ?
[09:44] <pontusen> Mantice,  it sure is :/
[09:44] <Mabus06> Yeah I thought it was Seveas who banned devine... *shrugs*
[09:44] <blAckEn3d> right
[09:45] <Agent_bob> Rob_Dude default install includes 'nome     you installed server ?
[09:45] <thoreauputic> Mantice: wrong
[09:45] <Mantice> From what ive herd every one just installs ubuntu and then installs that KDE
[09:45] <Mabus06> [-DevinE-] : do not pm me please
[09:45] <Rob_Dude> Nah, I went with the default.  I wanted as much stuff setup by the installer as possible :)
[09:45] <Mabus06> I already answered your question, anyway.
[09:45] <[-DevinE-] > oky but answer my qestion Mabus06
[09:45] <pontusen> Mantice,  so not true. besides, kde ain't good, imho
[09:45] <Rob_Dude> Is KDE really much different from gnome?
[09:45] <blAckEn3d> Rob_Dude,  yes
[09:45] <Mantice> shut up
[09:45] <Mabus06> Read.
[09:45] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  well, there sure are some differences
[09:46] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, google for screenshots - KDE looks more like WinXP
[09:46] <Seveas> Mantice, watch your language
[09:46] <Mantice> Just cos I said Kubuntu was crap doesnt mean i think kde is
[09:46] <Mabus06> Rob_Dude: it is very different... could be said it is like XP
 Nah, I went with the default.  I wanted as much stuff setup by the installer as   possible :)  <---- how will you ever make a geek thinking like that ??????????
[09:46] <kuja> 1 * * * * <-- Doesn't this mean to execute said command every minute (crontab)?
[09:46] <Seveas> kuja, no
[09:46] <pontusen> well KDE != win xp, but well, it's far more bloated, imho
[09:46] <Seveas> kuja, every hour, one minute past the hour
[09:47] <kuja> Seveas: Hm, okay.
[09:47] <Rob_Dude> Agent_bob:  Good point - lol.  I'm taking baby-steps.
[09:47] <Seveas> kuja, every minute would be * * * * *
[09:47] <unstable> Seveas: Are any ud's working on gnash, upstream/packaging?
[09:47] <kuja> Seveas: Ah, and every hour would be 0 * * * * ?
[09:47] <Rob_Dude> Actually, the real reason I decided to install Linux was soley because I wanted to play with VMware.  I had this grand-idea of having different virutal machines for...well...everything I do
[09:47] <Mantice> how do i load gkrellm ???
[09:48] <Mabus06> pontusen: I don't know about more bloated than XP, but certainly bloated.
[09:48] <Seveas> kuja, yes, or 1 * * * * or 15 * * * * etc depending on how many minutes past the hour you want it to run
[09:48] <Rob_Dude> So, everything would feel like a fresh install.  I figured I'd have about 3-4 different XP VMs and maybe a Server 2003 for playing around with.  But I heard Linux was a better host OS
[09:48] <kuja> Seveas: Nice, thanks :)
[09:48] <pontusen> Mabus06,  no, that's not what I meant neither. i agree on your saying
[09:48] <tuxcicles> i like some kde apps though, like klibido
[09:48] <Seveas> unstable, not that I know of (but of course I don't know everything)
[09:48] <Agent_bob> pontusen bloat is what gnu does best tho
[09:48] <Mantice> I broke my ubuntu 12 hours after I got it :)
[09:49] <kuja> lol
[09:49] <Seveas> Mantice, that's a world record 
[09:49] <jb1_> mantice: "sudo apt-get install gkrellm" and then find it in the System Tools menu
[09:49] <Mantice> At least in linux nothing is truly broken :)
[09:49] <Rob_Dude> But, I've just been playing around with Ubuntu so far, I haven't even gotten vmware up and running...but I'm thinking now that I don't want to bother installing the XP VMs
[09:49] <[-DevinE-] > Rob_Dude=> yes linux is better
[09:49] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, really? every version of Gnome seems to get faster...
[09:49] <Rob_Dude> So, now I just don't know what to do
[09:49] <Mantice> Gnome is faster than kde
[09:49] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  congrats, stay away from win :)
[09:49] <Mantice> Only cos kde loooks prityer
[09:49] <Seveas> Mantice, depends completely on your session
[09:50] <Mantice> yeah i supose
[09:50] <pontusen> Mantice,  fluxbox ownz it all
[09:50] <aslkzxmn> does anybody know how i can compile c file in my ubuntu
[09:50] <Seveas> you can create a lean KDE session and a bloated gnome one
[09:50] <Mantice> lol
[09:50] <Mantice> ok ok
[09:50] <Mantice> some linux geeks going to pwn mantice n00b :(
[09:50] <Seveas> Mantice, hehe 
[09:50] <kameron> aslkzxmn, gcc
[09:50] <Seveas> Mantice, this really is not the channel for gnome vs kde bashing
[09:50] <Mantice> stupid smiley just cos i cant do it
[09:50] <[-DevinE-] > 
[09:50] <[-DevinE-] > hehe
[09:50] <Mantice> noo
[09:50] <Rob_Dude> I know with Windows, you hear of people formatting their computers all the time.  I used to do it a lot, things would get...'dirty' so to speak.  Do people do that quite a bit with Linux?  Or does one install last you a very long time?
[09:50] <Mantice> hahah Il copy it
[09:50] <aslkzxmn> yup, but gcc is can`t
[09:51] <Mantice>   :)
[09:51] <kameron> wtf, that's one character... ... that's tight.
[09:51] <jb1_> Rob_Dude: installs last until your hardware gives out on debina-based distros
[09:51] <Mantice> Linux dont brake
[09:51] <aslkzxmn> i think it`s not installed, and i don`t have the cd to get it back
[09:51] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  there is no need to format linux, nor windows, if you set it up properly.
[09:51] <kameron> Mantice, they accelerate!
[09:51] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, one install can last a long time - I know people who haven't done a full install for years
[09:51] <jb1_> Rob_Dude: s/debina/debian
[09:51] <thoreauputic> Rob_Dude: you never need to do that in linux
[09:51] <Mantice> Yes
[09:51] <Mantice> Linux brakes for you
[09:51] <Mantice> Windows crash = burn = format
[09:51] <kameron> linux brakes for turtle crossing
[09:52] <Mantice> linux has auto brakes
[09:52] <Madpilot> no, penguin crossing
[09:52] <thoreauputic> Mantice: it breaks for you perhaps ;)
[09:52] <jb1_> lol
[09:52] <kameron> lol, Madpilot nice
[09:52] <Rob_Dude> Eh, I've tried quite a few different setups with windows and I still felt like formatting.  Granted, I never 'needed' to; but I liked to
[09:52] <Mantice> 
[09:52] <pontusen> Mantice,  if you don't know how to treat windows, it sure will break. so will linux
[09:52] <Seveas> Rob_Dude, I never reinstalled Ubuntu (using it since sept. 04) except for one time when I broke it vigorously by removing a shitload of essential files
[09:52] <Mantice> I treat windows good only cos i know it inside and out
[09:52] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  i know what you mean. start off fresh is nice :)
[09:52] <Seveas> Rob_Dude, even linux isn't foolproof (fools are always more stupid than you think)
[09:52] <[-DevinE-] > pontusen=>  right
[09:52] <Madpilot> kameron, I'm going to have to make a fake roadsign now - Tux & "Penguins Crossing"
[09:52] <bad_iNFO> can linux see SATA 3.0 RAID cards?
[09:53] <pontusen> Mantice,  then one wouldn't have to re-install win often
[09:53] <kameron> Madpilot, not if i beat you to it
[09:53] <Mantice> Shh Seveas
[09:53] <Agent_bob> Madpilot that's because you install each new software on new hardware.....?   M$ used to use the slogan in all their windows releases 'faster blah'  the only reason that each release was faster is because the hardware was dubbling in speed.... when installed side by side on one machine each new release performed slower and slower....     linux is not much different.
[09:53] <bad_iNFO> "arrays"
[09:53] <Mantice> ><
[09:53] <Mantice> My linux works fine
[09:53] <datr1x> is ubunto better/easier for a N00b than just straight debian I want to learn linux but dont know much about it yet
[09:53] <tuxcicles> except in your case Mantice, one install only last 12 hours
[09:53] <tuxcicles> 
[09:53] <Seveas> Agent_bob, au contraire, gnome is getting faster and faster these days, and booting is also speeding up
[09:53] <Mantice> I screwd up xserver the GUI thing but these guys in here will allways help you out
[09:53] <Seveas> Agent_bob, (on the same hardware)
[09:53] <Syns> is there anything else i can use besides mplayer to play avi or mpeg, divx movies?
[09:53] <kameron> datr1x, compared to a deb install, i would say, yes, it's easier
[09:53] <bad_iNFO> i'm a noob as you call it and yes i find it very easy to use
[09:54] <Mantice> My Xserver crashed 3 hours after Install
[09:54] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, expect Dapper to be a fair bit faster than Breezy, even for those of us who just upgrade in place
[09:54] <bad_iNFO> but from what i understand debian is also
[09:54] <pontusen> Mantice,  and why?
[09:54] <Mantice> Because im a n00b :)
[09:54] <Rob_Dude> Syns:  I'm using 'vlc' and so far it seems pretty good.
[09:54] <datr1x> I'm just trying to use the local venacular ;-)
[09:54] <Mantice> Stupid wiki
[09:54] <Agent_bob> booting a window manager..... hehhhe
[09:54] <Madpilot> pontusen, because Mantice doesn't read directions :P
[09:54] <Syns> its text based though right?
[09:54] <pontusen> Mantice,  have a backup on a fresh installment = no need for a new install if(when) you break things
[09:55] <bad_iNFO> if being a newb is being someone willing to try new things, and not be scared of failing then yes i'm a noob, anyways someone answer my question
[09:55] <Mantice> I dont need backup this is going to go for years :)
[09:55] <Seveas> !noob
[09:55] <ubotu> hmm... noob is a four letter word, just like rtfm or jfgi. Don't use it
[09:55] <datr1x> I have installed debian but I can't get my nvidia display drivers to install
[09:55] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  about the raid? yes
[09:55] <jb1_> bad_INFO: try this URL for info on SATA:  http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[09:55] <bad_iNFO> ty\
[09:55] <Agent_bob> Seveas well it may be   but i can't tell any improvement up to hoary.   maybe dapper is faster.  we will see.
[09:55] <Mantice> !rtfm
[09:55] <ubotu> Mantice: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:55] <Mantice> stupid bot lol
[09:55] <datr1x> it says cant find precompiled kernal
[09:55] <Syns> rob_dude, is it text based?
[09:55] <Seveas> Agent_bob, I was talking about breezy vs dapper (gnome 2.12 vs 2.14 and faster boot)
[09:55] <pontusen> Syns,  it can be
[09:56] <Mantice> Nothing wrong with noob
[09:56] <Mantice> !noobie
[09:56] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mantice
[09:56] <pontusen> syns, but as default it's not, i recon
[09:56] <Revid> question: ok i just mounted a 2nd drive and I want to create a folder on the drive that my OS is on.  when i do mkdir it puts it on the drive that i just mounted.  how do i get back to just creating a new folder in /?
[09:56] <Mantice> How do I start gkrellrm?
[09:56] <pontusen> Revid,  like mkdir /foo  ?
[09:56] <bad_iNFO> wow great link thanks JBL
[09:56] <tuxcicles> Rob_Dude, ubuntu does quite a bit of things differently than ubuntu - and it has old apps compared to ubuntu - unless you use unstable - which always seems broken in debian
[09:57] <jb1_> bad_INFO: np. I had a discussion with the bot :)
[09:57] <kameron> Revid, change directories to the hard drive you want... cd /this/location
[09:57] <pontusen> tuxcicles,  "ubuntu does quite a bit of things differently than ubuntu" :(
[09:57] <kameron> tuxcicles, read what you wrote :P
[09:57] <bad_iNFO> so i should ask the bot questions?
[09:57] <bad_iNFO> i can do that?
[09:57] <Rob_Dude> lol
[09:57] <Mantice> yes
[09:57] <kameron> bad_iNFO, yes you can
[09:57] <Revid> pontusen, yes
[09:57] <Mantice> !why world circle
[09:57] <ubotu> Mantice: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:57] <bad_iNFO> hey wtf u think people wake up knowing this stuff lol?
[09:57] <Mantice> !why ubuntu brown ?
[09:57] <ubotu> Mantice: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:57] <Revid> kameron, if i go cd / i would think it would go to my main hd
[09:57] <Agent_bob> Revid man cd
[09:57] <tuxcicles> you know what i mean ( i think)
[09:57] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[09:57] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:58] <Mantice> OMG he has a cat called Mittens woot
[09:58] <kameron> Revid, it goes to the root of the filesystem
[09:58] <bad_iNFO> nice thanks dude
[09:58] <Rob_Dude> Can I get to a 'true' command prompt outside of Gnome somehow?
[09:59] <kameron> Rob_Dude,ctrl+alt+f1... and then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X
[09:59] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, awesome
[09:59] <Rob_Dude> Ty
[09:59] <Rob_Dude> (and lol, that's for posting how to get back before I went and got myself locked out)
[09:59] <Agent_bob> Revid / is the root partition unless you have chroot running or have pivot_root some place   one other thing that could happen.  you could mount another partition on /  which generally calls for a reboot....
[09:59] <Revid> kameron, so how do i change it to my OS hard drive?  i thought cd / would go to the root of my main filesystem but it just goes to the 2nd hd which i mounted at /backup
[09:59] <aslkzxmn> have the other idea ?
[10:00] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, ctrl+alt+F1 thru +F6 are all text terminals - F7 is X (the GUI)
[10:00] <tuxcicles> Rob_Dude, or ctrl + f2 - f3 - f4 - f5
[10:00] <kameron> Revid, it shouldn't. cd / should take you to the root of your filesystem, assuming it's setup that way.
[10:00] <Rob_Dude> Nice, nice
[10:00] <Mantice> Can some one help me install a file
[10:00] <DaleStan> Agent_bob: apt-cache search <what>? rename and fileutils return nothing interesting. ... also setup apt to use the repos <-- Expand, please? I saw nothing that looked interesting (both grep and vgrep for repo) in either man apt.conf or /usr/share/docs/apt/examples/apt.conf
[10:00] <kameron> Revid, can you do 'cd /home' ?
[10:00] <Madpilot> Mantice, you should know by now just to ask... don't ask to ask
[10:01] <Revid> yes
[10:01] <Mantice> Yeah
[10:01] <Mantice> Hey
[10:01] <Mantice> !Cedega
[10:01] <Mantice> !Loves ubotu
[10:01] <ubotu> Mantice: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:01] <Seveas> Mantice, we people in here want to help and are offended by even the thought that we may not want to ;)
[10:01] <Rob_Dude> Crap, it's 3am....grrr
[10:01] <Revid> kameron, yes but i have a /home in my /backup folder so i dont know if it is the right one
[10:01] <aslkzxmn> for debian package how  to install the other program in console mode,
[10:02] <kameron> Revid, but that will be at /backup/home
[10:02] <Seveas> mv /proc/Rob_Dude /dev/bed && sleep
[10:02] <aslkzxmn> i just know in rpm
[10:02] <Seveas> !deb
[10:02] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[10:02] <kameron> Revelation, type 'pwd' to print the working directory.
[10:02] <Seveas> !apt
[10:02] <ubotu> somebody said apt was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[10:02] <aslkzxmn> nice :)
[10:02] <Rob_Dude> I want to setup my computer before I go to bed so I can play with Linux remotely when I'm supposed to be doing work :P
[10:02] <Seveas> !no apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[10:02] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:02] <kameron> Rob_Dude, good call!@
[10:03] <[-DevinE-] > i wanna install a .deb how can i ?
[10:03] <Seveas> !deb
[10:03] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[10:03] <blAckEn3d> dppkg -i deb
[10:03] <jb1_> Rob_Dude: of course. all ubuntu users log into their home machine from work at least 5 times a day :)
[10:03] <Mantice> ;( Ill just leave and do my windows thing :(
[10:03] <kameron> [-DevinE-] , dpkg -i package.deb
[10:03] <[-DevinE-] >  dpkg -i /PATH_TO PACKAGE/PACKAGE_NAME ?
[10:03] <[-DevinE-] > i know it 10x
[10:03] <Rob_Dude> Will I be able to telnet into my computer by default, or do I need to turn on?
[10:03] <kameron> [-DevinE-] , pretty much yes
[10:03] <Seveas> jb1_, I bring my home machine to work ;)
[10:03] <kameron> Rob_Dude, need to configure stuff like that
[10:03] <Seveas> (laptop)
[10:04] <Mantice> Where will it install the deb file?
[10:04] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, use ssh, it's safer than telnet
[10:04] <jb1_> Rob_Dude: use and learn ssh. forget about telnet. it is evil.
[10:04] <Madpilot> !ssh
[10:04] <ubotu> it has been said that ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[10:04] <Seveas> Rob_Dude, telnet is evil.
[10:04] <Rob_Dude> Is that in the inetd file I hear so much about?
[10:04] <kameron> Mantice, wherevere the .deb says
[10:04] <Seveas> Rob_Dude, apt-get install openssh-server
[10:04] <Agent_bob> Rob_Dude telnet ????     maybe ssh
[10:04] <Seveas> and use ssh
[10:04] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, ty, ty - good point.  Even on windows I had an ssh client
[10:04] <Seveas> Rob_Dude, putty 
[10:04] <kameron> Rob_Dude, ssh is the de facto for unix
[10:04] <aslkzxmn> error while loading shared libraries: libnids.so.1.19 ....i get this message
[10:04] <braniff> telnet can burn in hell !!
[10:04] <Seveas> !find libnids.so.1
[10:05] <aslkzxmn> but i don`t have the cd
[10:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libnids.so.1' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/{libnids.so.1|libnids.so.1.20}) in universe/libs/libnids1.
[10:05] <Agent_bob> tightVNC
[10:05] <Seveas> aslkzxmn, apt-get install libnids1
[10:05] <aslkzxmn> okay i`ll try
[10:05] <aslkzxmn> i get the problem from the soyrce..
[10:06] <Agent_bob> aslkzxmn setup your apt to use the repos.
[10:06] <kameron> !tell aslkzxmn about easysource
[10:06] <aslkzxmn> i don't have the cd, cause my computer doesn`t have cdrom drive
[10:07] <Mantice> package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[10:07] <Mantice>  Oh noes Im going to have to downgrade my kernal :(
[10:07] <Agent_bob> aslkzxmn so ?
[10:07] <Revid> kameron, i think the problem is that when i mounted /backup i mounted it to my root so everything i create in /backup gets created in /
[10:07] <aslkzxmn> how about the url...
[10:07] <Rob_Dude> Hmm, shoot....from work I'm only able to get outside of the Firewall if I'm using their web-proxy....this might not work as easily as I had thought
[10:07] <Rob_Dude> Grr
[10:07] <kameron> Revelation, haha, nicely done.
[10:07] <pontusen> Mantice,  just install the right kernel :P
[10:07] <Mantice> I thought I could run i386 files on my computer ?
[10:07] <kameron> Revid, haha nicely done
[10:07] <kameron> Revid, type "mount" without any options.
[10:07] <aslkzxmn> so i can download the lib directly
[10:07] <Agent_bob> aslkzxmn read act3    your pm window
[10:07] <aslkzxmn> okay
[10:07] <kameron> Revid, then paste it at:
[10:07] <kameron> !tell Revid about paste
[10:08] <aslkzxmn> thanks all
[10:08] <Mantice> pontusen, I thought amd64 was the right kernel
[10:08] <aslkzxmn> iam trying
[10:08] <Mantice> the program called Cedega dont have 64 bit one :(
[10:08] <pontusen> Mantice,  if you installed 64bits ubuntu, then you need amd64 kernel. however, you can emulate 32bits
[10:08] <Agent_bob> you are doing just fine. aslkzxmn
[10:08] <Revid> kameron, sc
[10:08] <Revid> kameron, sec
[10:08] <Mantice> How do I install it
[10:09] <Mantice> dpkg: error processing cedega_5.1_i386.deb (--install):
[10:09] <Mantice>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[10:09] <pontusen> Mantice,  "it"?
[10:09] <kameron> Mantice, the .deb of cedega SUCKS
[10:09] <Mantice> Fix it ! :) What should I do
[10:09] <jb1_> jb1_ brain >&! > /dev/null && sleep ( gnite gang...)
[10:09] <pontusen> Mantice,  hmm, don't know with ubuntu, try look for a 32-bits emulator in synaptic?
[10:09] <kameron> Mantice, oh, haha.. and you're trying to install a i386 package on amd64. on an amd64 system, no games will run on it likely.
[10:09] <Hmmmm> hi guys, anyone successfully dist-upgraded to dapper?
[10:10] <Mantice> Oh noooo plz dont make me go to windows :( I really was enjoying my time here
[10:10] <pontusen> kameron,  im on 64bits, i run cedega+multiple games perfetcly
[10:10] <Mantice> I dont want to DIE !
[10:10] <FlannelKing> Hmmmm, I'm sure someone has... somewhere.  But I don't think that was your question ;)
[10:10] <Madpilot> Hmmmm, not personally, but I know people have
[10:10] <Agent_bob> !chroot
[10:10] <ubotu> chroot is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[10:10] <bad_iNFO> does anyone recommend making a seperae partition for home, usr and so on?
[10:10] <Madpilot> FlannelKing, :P
[10:10] <kameron> ponds, hmm, cool. i figured it would be a problem. i guess not. but you don't use the i386 deb do you?
[10:10] <bad_iNFO> sperate*
[10:10] <bad_iNFO> ugh
[10:10] <Madpilot> bad_iNFO, yes
[10:10] <pontusen> Mantice,  at least check the synaptic for some 32-bits emulator
[10:10] <Od1Mie2L> omg i'm so sleepy
[10:10] <Revid> kameron, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9425
[10:10] <Mantice> Kameron what would you advise me to do
[10:10] <Madpilot> bad_iNFO, one partition for root, one for user (one for swap if you want...)
[10:11] <Agent_bob> bad_iNFO i have, what you need ?
[10:11] <Mantice> I have 20 min to install it :(
[10:11] <kameron> Mantice, get the .tgz package
[10:11] <Hmmmm> Madpilot, the reason i ask is i can't boot my dapper box with the new kernel, however it works with the old one, minus audio
[10:11] <Mantice> You mean cedega-5.1.tgz ????
[10:11] <Mantice> I have that :)
[10:11] <Hmmmm> i was wondering if someone could help me fix the new kernel
[10:11] <kameron> Revid, yes, you mounted it to /. umount it.
[10:11] <Mantice> Whoooo whooo!
[10:11] <Rob_Dude> SPeaking of filesystem layouts and what not.  Does anyone have a link that sorta of discusses or explains what the default directories are intended to be used for?  /etc and /usr and /bin and well, I'm sure they all mean something but it's all greek to me
[10:11] <pontusen> Hmmmm,  what achitecture are you on?
[10:11] <Madpilot> Hmmmm, is there anyone on #ubuntu+1? That's the dapper channel
[10:11] <bad_iNFO> u have what i need bob?
[10:12] <bad_iNFO> huh?
[10:12] <Mantice> amd 64
[10:12] <kameron> Revid, sudo umount /dev/sda1
[10:12] <Hmmmm> pointy, im on a P4
[10:12] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, there's a good picture I found a day or so ago - give me a minute
[10:12] <Rob_Dude> Thanks man, take your time
[10:12] <Hmmmm> Madpilot, that channel was of no help
[10:12] <pointy> ?
[10:12] <Hmmmm> i tried there earlier in the day
[10:12] <tuxcicles> bad_iNFO, definitely a separate home, so you can reinstall without loosing data
[10:12] <Revid> kameron, command not found
[10:12] <Mantice> Should I login as root
[10:12] <Mantice> and paste files in
[10:12] <bad_iNFO> what's good sizes?
[10:12] <Hmmmm> pontusen, , im on a P4
[10:12] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  let me know if you don't find, i have a book that explains it quite good
[10:12] <FlannelKing> Rob_Dude, had the same question starting out.  Found this : http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/index.html
[10:13] <Rob_Dude> Thanks all
[10:13] <bad_iNFO> i made a 1000 meg swap
[10:13] <FlannelKing> pontusen, thats for you too, I suppose.
[10:13] <Madpilot> Rob_Dude, http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg
[10:13] <kameron> Revelation, ...try again
[10:13] <bad_iNFO> so i should make what size home, root?
[10:13] <Agent_bob> bad_iNFO oh, reccomend...   ah yes.   / 3g   /home 12g  /boot 100m  first primary.     but that is not by any means nessarry.     all you have to have is   / 1.8g+     most people like a swap partition.   i prefer a swap manager that can make a swap file "if and when" needed.
[10:13] <Mantice> Login to natulus and then paste the files from the tar file?
[10:14] <leshaste> I have a new driver for lm_sensors called smsc47m192.c. What do I need to do to include it in the kernel?
[10:14] <[aJ] > How can I mount a samba share so that it is the exactly the same as if it was a local directory? IOW allowing a user to preform chmod, chown, chgrp on files & directorys.
[10:14] <Madpilot> bad_iNFO, I'd say 5 or 10Gb for root, the rest for /home
[10:14] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  1gb for swap is what you need, tops. /boot needs likte 32 MB or something, and let / holds at least 5-10 GB
[10:14] <tuxcicles> bad_iNFO, i like 7 gig for / - 21/2 x your memory for swap, and the rest home
[10:14] <Revid> kameron, shouldnt it be sudo unmount /backup ?
[10:14] <pontusen> tuxcicles,  ridiculus.
[10:14] <ian_> bad_iNFO: for a desktop box I say 100% as /
[10:14] <bad_iNFO> nice thanks everyone
[10:14] <Mantice> God bless my ubuntu, I fear it cant take what im about to do it
[10:14] <Rob_Dude> Last Q for the night for me:  Is Solaris a flavor/distro of Linux or is it an entirely different OS?
[10:15] <bad_iNFO> this is for a server someday lol
[10:15] <FlannelKing> Rob_Dude, Solaris is an entirely different OS
[10:15] <ian_> Rob_Dude: diff
[10:15] <bad_iNFO> i'm starting with desktop on it tho cause i'm a "noob" as i'm called
[10:15] <kameron> Revelation, it's not unmount, it's umount.
[10:15] <Rob_Dude> Gotcha
[10:15] <Rob_Dude> ty
[10:15] <kameron> Rob_Dude, it's a unix operating system by sun
[10:15] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  just don't forget to learn new things! since ubuntu does most things for you, try to learn things anyway
[10:15] <kameron> Rob_Dude, the same company that does java
[10:16] <Revid> kameron, i got it unmounted, i was typing in unmount, didnt need the n
[10:16] <pontusen> java for president(not)
[10:16] <kameron> Revid, :P
[10:16] <Rob_Dude> Gotcha, hmm
[10:16] <kameron> Revid, so things back to normal?
[10:16] <pontusen> one shouldn't have the n in umount
[10:16] <Rob_Dude> I saw a presentation on it, and it sounded awesome
[10:16] <ian_> does anyone use vmware 5?
[10:16] <Rob_Dude> But, well, everyting sounds awesome when they are presenting it, lol
[10:16] <tuxcicles> Rob_Dude, if you want to make big money using internet servers, use solaris
[10:17] <FlannelKing> pontusen, Java needs to learn to calculate floats correctly, before it can run for president.
[10:17] <pontusen> Rob_Dude,  of course. it wouldn't be like "hey, check out our new, EVEN CRAPPIER shit we call OS"
[10:17] <Revid> kameron, gonna try to remount correctly, sec
[10:17] <leshaste> "You must use the 'separate compilation' option "  from http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/newdrivers.html..that's what I am trying to find instructions for
[10:17] <Agent_bob> pontusen or you could "sudo ln -s /bin/umount /bin/unmount "
[10:17] <ompaul> Rob_Dude, and they do star office the sibling of open office
[10:17] <pontusen> FlannelKing,  i do programming quite a lot both java and other languages, don't like quite some things in java...
[10:18] <kameron> Revid, sudo cat /etc/fstab, then paste it for me please
[10:18] <pontusen> Agent_bob,  or sudo ln -s /bin/umount /bin/iwanttofuckingunmountthisdrivenoooow  but it's really unnecessary... :)
[10:18] <FlannelKing> pontusen, thats because java treats its programmers like babies.
[10:18] <ompaul> pontusen, can you do less language please
[10:19] <Mantice> Ok Ive installed it how to i run it guys?
[10:19] <Agent_bob> why not use \ spaces in that  "_
[10:19] <k31th> ompaul: watsup dude
[10:19] <ompaul> k31th, nout tbh
[10:19] <Revid> kameron, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9426
[10:19] <Rob_Dude> Alright all - thanks for all the help; I'm off for the night
[10:20] <pontusen> ompaul,  #less myprogramminglanguages.txt   showss c, c++, java, qbasic, c#.
[10:20] <k31th> ompaul: ahh try configuring a box to use ldap as system auth :p
[10:20] <kameron> Revid, do you have a regular internat hard drive, or just removable ones?
[10:20] <ompaul> pontusen, in terms of where you mount disks that is
[10:21] <bad_iNFO> is there any advantages of using slackware instead of ubuntu on a dual processor server?
[10:21] <pontusen> ompaul,  :/
[10:21] <Revid> kameron, the one i want to backup is an internal sata
[10:21] <bad_iNFO> or is it all prefernce?
[10:21] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  depends. how advanced do you want it to be REQUIERED?
[10:21] <Agent_bob> prefernce
[10:21] <tuxcicles> are there any good usenet binary downloader out there for gnome?  all I see is pan, and it is a memory hog in binary newsgourps
[10:21] <FlannelKing> bad_iNFO, its mostly preference.  One OS might do XX better than another OS, but really they're all fairly similar.
[10:22] <kameron> Revid, are sata drives recognized as a /dev/sda* ?
[10:22] <thebeanba1> what is the best filesystem to use with ubuntu?
[10:22] <leshaste> bad_iNFO: really the difference will only be in the kernel version and patches
[10:23] <leshaste> thebeanba1: for what purpose?
[10:23] <pontusen> Agent_bob,  FlannelKing, i disagree. take gentoo for example. it's quite A LOT more to do to get the distro up and running, that's not the case with ubuntu. and to maintain it...
[10:23] <FlannelKing> bad_iNFO, and all that XX / YY stuff is mostly user interaction, since the kernel is basically the same, so you won't find support for [hardware]  on only one distro. (all of this stuff is capable of exceptions, mind you)
[10:23] <ompaul> thebeanba1, debatable but in general ext3
[10:23] <leshaste> thebeanba1: ext3 is still fine for normal desktop use
[10:23] <bad_iNFO> ty
[10:23] <bad_iNFO> everyone
[10:23] <[aJ] > Is there a way to mount a smaba share so it is just like a regular directory
[10:23] <FlannelKing> pontusen, the userinterface is different, the capabilities are similar.
[10:23] <Revid> kameron, if i do sudo fdisk -l my main sata is sda* but the one i want to backup is sdb
[10:24] <pontusen> FlannelKing,  true.
[10:24] <kameron> Revid, makes sense.
[10:24] <tk> hmm I just came home and my sound isnt working.... but I suppose I actually need a reboot anyways so I'll be back heh
[10:24] <FlannelKing> pontusen, that's really all the flavors differ in, their choice of user interaction.  And that reconverges in the major areas even  (because they all have the same programs running, and the same choices of window managers, etc)
[10:24] <tuxcicles> [aJ] , yes
[10:24] <Agent_bob> as far as that goes.  ext2 is still fine for normal desktop use
[10:24] <ompaul> !samba
[10:24] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:25] <kameron> Revid, sooo.. is everything all good, or are you still having a problem with soemthing?
[10:25] <sudharsh> mhi evry1..how do i know which version of gcc make is using
[10:25] <FlannelKing> sudharsh "gcc -v" at the command line
[10:25] <pontusen> gcc --version
[10:25] <Revid> kameron, i am able to mount sdb1 but not sdb2, unfortunetly all the data i need is on sdb2
[10:26] <kameron> sudharsh, gcc --version works too
[10:26] <Revid> kameron, when i try to mount sdb2 it says you must specify the filesystem
[10:26] <kameron> Revid, what happens when you try to mount sdb2?
[10:26] <sudharsh> ok is there anyway i caould override this
[10:26] <sudharsh> i am havin trouble building stuff withh gcc4
[10:26] <pontusen> FlannelKing,  true. And i wouldn't put a total beginner in a "geek" distro. you can most likely accomplish the same things on w/e distro.
[10:26] <kameron> Revid, you can do that by: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /this/location
[10:26] <Mantice> Hey guys how to I fix support with with Game ?
[10:26] <Mantice> Gaim dont open in firefox no more :(
[10:27] <kameron> sudharsh, you can make your MAKEFILE use whatever gcc you want, by typing "make gcc=3.4" for example.
[10:27] <pontusen> Mantice,  gaim or game?
[10:27] <Mantice> Gaim
[10:27] <Syns> how can i broadcast video on yahoo
[10:27] <sudharsh> aah..i'll try tht thanx
[10:27] <Mantice> game later Gaim now :)
[10:27] <Syns> gaim has no option for it
[10:27] <Mantice> U sure
[10:27] <Mantice> Im sure of it
[10:27] <kameron> Mantice, yeah, why would gaim work in mozilla?
[10:27] <Mantice> Id right click and it would say open in Firefox
[10:27] <FlannelKing> I think he means when he clicks on links in gaim, they open in ff?
[10:28] <FlannelKing> Mantice, just update your browser choice
[10:28] <variant> lo all, im having a problem getting my belkin wireless usb to work with ubuntu dapper. i modprobe it but the device does not show up in iwconfig or the networking tool
[10:28] <pontusen> if it is like FlannelKing says, then change firefox to your preferred browser
[10:28] <variant> i compiled the driver from this page:
[10:28] <Mantice> I broke my firefox
[10:28] <Revid> kameron, wrong fs type
[10:28] <kameron> Revid, do you know the fs time?
[10:28] <kameron> type
[10:28] <Mantice> i use to right click in gaim and i could open in firefox or in a tab
[10:28] <Syns> gaim has no option for it
[10:28] <Syns> how can i broadcast video on yahoo
[10:28] <Revid> kameron, gotta be ext2 or ext3
[10:28] <kameron> Syns, don't spam your question please
[10:28] <Mantice> Now it just says open in browser and that dont work eather
[10:28] <variant> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[10:29] <kameron> Revid, did you try ext2 and ext3?
[10:29] <Revid> kameron, yes
[10:29] <variant> modprobe does not give an error
[10:29] <Syns> well i wouldnt if it didnt feel like i was being ignord
[10:29] <Protocol1> !ogle
[10:29] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Protocol1
[10:29] <Syns> at least say i dont know
 Revid, do you know t <--- could be missing mount point also.   mount sometimes gives a confusing error message.
[10:29] <Protocol1> !beer
[10:29] <pontusen> Syns,  could it be that no one knows? do you want 623 ppl to say "dunno"?
[10:29] <sunubuntu> synaptic:removed a package by mistake.The package is not listed.How do i install it back.Any ideas?
[10:29] <insidious> Syns, if everyone did that, there would be 10 people saying "I don't know"
[10:29] <Od1Mie2L> !milk
[10:29] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Od1Mie2L
[10:29] <Od1Mie2L> !tea
[10:29] <ubotu> Od1Mie2L: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:29] <Od1Mie2L> !coffee
[10:29] <Syns> i want at least someone thats active to say i dont know
[10:29] <pontusen> sunubuntu,  install it the way you did before?
[10:30] <sunubuntu> synaptic:removed a package by mistake.The package is not listed now.How do i install it back.Any ideas?
[10:30] <Od1Mie2L> !water
[10:30] <insidious> Syns, you can be sure your line gets read
[10:30] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Od1Mie2L
[10:30] <Od1Mie2L> !refresco
[10:30] <ubotu> Od1Mie2L: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:30] <Syns> not 600 people, just one person
[10:30] <Revid> Agent_bob, im not sure what you mean, what is t?
[10:30] <kameron> Syns: if nobody answers your question, they're not "ignoring" you, they don't know the answer.
[10:30] <Od1Mie2L> !cyanide
[10:30] <ubotu> Od1Mie2L: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:30] <sunubuntu> pontusen:the package is not in the list now
[10:30] <pontusen> sunubuntu,  1. don't spam your questions. 2. install it the way you did before?
[10:30] <ompaul> Syns, in IRC no one presumes to talk on behalf of others
[10:30] <pontusen> okey
[10:30] <insidious> Syns, there's no one spokesman, you can't expect one person to respond
[10:31] <kameron> Revid, what command exactly are you trying to issue?
[10:31] <pontusen> Syns,  on behalf of over 600 ppl, no, we don't have a clue.
[10:31] <insidious> Syns, not to be rude.  we'd help if we could :)
[10:31] <Madpilot> Syns, you want all 623 other people to say "I don't know"?
[10:31] <ompaul> pontusen, taking a chance there :)
[10:31] <Revid> kameron, i have data on this sata hd that i need to recover
[10:31] <tuxcicles> sunubuntu, you probably need to add the repository to your apt.sources list
[10:31] <pontusen> ompaul,  my 4 sec in the spotlights :P
[10:31] <Revid> kameron, it would not boot in fedora so if i could just backup the files i could install ubuntu on it
[10:32] <ompaul> okay I now declare it offtopic for a few mins at least
[10:32] <Od1Mie2L> 623.times { puts "i dunno, okay!!? jeez >:o" }
[10:32] <Agent_bob> Revid use the tab key when typing the options to mount so you can be sure they exist.      sudo mount /dev/sdb[tab]  /mnt/[dab]        using tab completion helps keep you from issuing commands that the system cant understand.
[10:32] <pontusen> Od1Mie2L,  way to go :)
[10:32] <kameron> Revid, yes, listen to Agent_bob there
[10:32] <Revid> Agent_bob, ok thanks
[10:32] <bad_iNFO> i have a dual processor 2 Ghz Xeon, i install the SMP kernal for i686 and it locks up on boot
[10:33] <bad_iNFO> any ideas?
[10:33] <kameron> Revid, you must specify an existing device and mount point, what Agent_bob suggest helps avoid that
[10:33] <Mantice> DAMIIITT
[10:33] <bad_iNFO> should hyper threading be enabled in my bios?
[10:33] <kameron> bad_iNFO, it'd probably help if you mailed me your processor.. then you don't have a working computer to worry about.
[10:33] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  listen to kameron.
[10:33] <Mantice> Any one have idea on how to make Gaim open up links with firefox
[10:34] <pontusen> Mantice,  have ff as your default browser?
[10:34] <Mantice> How do I do that
[10:34] <Mantice> I thought that was windows only :)
[10:34] <sunubuntu> tuxcicles:but i am not able to add repositories.error:could not download all repository indexes.http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:34] <tuxcicles> Mantice, install the one that comes with ubuntu
[10:34] <Mantice> I did
[10:34] <Mantice> I fixed it
[10:34] <Mantice> I fixed the invalid links to
[10:34] <pontusen> Mantice,  you got it?
[10:34] <Mantice> Yeah
[10:34] <bad_iNFO> ok now what was that all about?
[10:34] <pontusen> great :)
[10:34] <bad_iNFO> lol
[10:34] <Mantice> How do I make it defult
[10:35] <kameron> sorry.. bad typo made me quit.. lol. anyways, bad_iNFO.. i could forward my mailing address to you if you like?
[10:35] <pontusen> Mantice,  edit -> preferrences -> check now
[10:35] <sunubuntu> tuxcicles:Pl. help?
[10:35] <ompaul> Mantice, I got the bot to send you a message
[10:35] <dsl506> howdy... how can i tell what hdd partition im using? eg. /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 etc?
[10:35] <cion> hey all is there a way to force trash to empty?
[10:36] <Agent_bob> dsl506 mount
[10:36] <[-DevinE-] > dos anyone know the time in new york ?
[10:36] <bad_iNFO> yeah ok, well seriously, im not mailing my computer anywhere lol
[10:36] <bad_iNFO> but still, any ideas?
[10:36] <Mantice> Bot send no msg :)
[10:36] <pontusen> cion,  i guess you don't have permission to empty the trash?
[10:36] <Agent_bob> dsl506 also sufo fdisk -l
[10:36] <cion> i have no permissions on gpl files
[10:36] <[-DevinE-] > sudo
[10:36] <sunubuntu> tuxcicles:Pl. help?
[10:36] <Mantice> www.google.com
[10:36] <ompaul> Mantice, it did now :-)
[10:37] <cion> pontusen and i got no permission on file itself
[10:37] <pontusen> cion, #sudo rm -r /home/foo/.trash/
[10:37] <dsl506> thanks agent_bob
[10:37] <Mantice> Enter key i will use it wisly my friend
[10:37] <kameron> [-DevinE-] ,  http://worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_NR.aspx
[10:37] <Revid> kameron, wierd, i can do "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /crn and it works but when i do the same execpt for sdb2 i get error....
[10:37] <cion> pontusen can u explain to me the command?
[10:37] <ompaul> ;)
[10:37] <Revid> kameron, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2
[10:37] <bad_iNFO> i'm not on the server i'm triing to make work this is another linux box i have
[10:37] <kameron> bad_iNFO, not your whole computer, just the processor!
[10:37] <Mantice> Oh Poodlecake now X-chats broken :(
[10:37] <pontusen> cion, replace "foo" with your login nick(cion maybe?)  and then do that command. it will delete everything you have in .trash, ie in your trash.
[10:38] <bad_iNFO> lol kameron
[10:38] <kameron> bad_iNFO, sorry, no ideas.. i'd love to own a dual core xeon though :P
[10:38] <Agent_bob> Revid try without the -t arg   like i sujested first time.
[10:38] <kameron> Revid, and sdb2 is a sata drive?
[10:38] <sunubuntu>  i am not able to add repositories.error:could not download all repository indexes.http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1).Any help?
[10:38] <tuxcicles> sunubuntu, are you in india err sumpthing
[10:38] <bad_iNFO> i got both processor's for 200 bucks lol
[10:38] <bad_iNFO> :-P
[10:38] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  that's maybe why they hang? ;)
[10:39] <sunubuntu> tuxcircles:ya
[10:39] <bad_iNFO> lol they work, i loaded windows
[10:39] <Revid> Agent_bob, sorry i forgot to say i tried thatalready, i get mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:39] <bad_iNFO> too verify
[10:39] <bad_iNFO> but i don't want to run windows
[10:39] <Revid> kameron, yes
[10:39] <Agent_bob> what makes you think it's  sdb2 anyway ?         Revid did you  sudo fdisk -l   to find the partition number?
[10:39] <bad_iNFO> i want to learn linux server stuff
[10:39] <Revid> Agent_bob, yes
[10:40] <bad_iNFO> it yay fun
[10:40] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  well, you could try a livecd or try reinstall it
[10:40] <Revid> Agent_bob, should i paste fdisk -l info?
[10:40] <bad_iNFO> livecd???
[10:40] <Agent_bob> no no
[10:40] <bad_iNFO> that's an idea
[10:40] <pontusen> bad_iNFO,  like knoppix
[10:40] <cion> pontusen u sure bout the command u gave me?
[10:40] <GTX> ive installed some package which I didnt want and its added things to bootup, how do I remove them from boot?
[10:40] <bad_iNFO> ty fantastic idea
[10:40] <Agent_bob> is there something already mounted on your mount point Revid ?
[10:40] <kameron> Revid, yes, paste it at the link i gave you
[10:41] <sunubuntu> tuxcicles:Pl. help man.
[10:41] <Revid> kameron, i will paste my mount info for bob too
[10:41] <Agent_bob> k
[10:41] <tuxcicles> sunubuntu, well, i don't know what universe the package is you are trying to install, so if you would go and uncomment your universe - multiverse and backports - you are bound to find it - sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:41] <kameron> Revid, yeah, just throw it up there and send it to us
[10:42] <pontusen> cion,  i used sudo rm -r /home/pontusen/.Trash/    and you need to replace "pontusen" with your nick
[10:42] <cion> pontusen i did says no such file or directory
[10:42] <sunubuntu> tuxcicles:Thanks man.But i need that repository
[10:42] <bad_iNFO> what's the min req for ubunto
[10:42] <pontusen> cion,  with a big T in Trash?
[10:42] <bad_iNFO> CPU?
[10:42] <Revid> kameron, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9427
[10:43] <kameron> Agent_bob, ^^
[10:43] <tuxcicles> what r ya trying to install?
[10:43] <balayhashi> my printer works , I'm a happy man ! No more windows for me . c:\ it's formated as ext3 . peace everybody!
[10:43] <cion> pontusen ooooooooohhh right ;)
[10:43] <Agent_bob> bad_iNFO about 32m ram  200m hdd  dx486
[10:43] <sunubuntu> tuxcicles:pvm
[10:43] <cion> pontusen sorry, thx!!
[10:43] <pontusen> cion,  i think i misspelled it first time, my bad :P
[10:43] <GTX> ive installed some package which I didnt want and its added things to bootup, how do I remove them from boot?
[10:43] <cion> pontusen roger that thx for the help
[10:43] <pontusen> np
[10:44] <kameron> Revid, it looks like sdb2 is mounted just fine.
[10:44] <kameron> Revid, oh sorry, nevermind.
[10:44] <Agent_bob> bad_iNFO i might point out that the installer wont run in that size ram  but it can be installed and ran in that box.
[10:45] <sinaduel> how do I install rar for linux? I just downloaded the .tar.gz file
[10:45] <Revid> kameron, yeah that is sdb1 and i just unmounted it
[10:45] <kameron> Revid, 'sudo umount /dev/sdb1' first, because it's already mounted on /crn. then 'sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /crn'
[10:45] <tuxcicles> sunubuntu, i apt-cache'd and it is pulling up pvm fine under universe/devel
[10:45] <pontusen> sinaduel,  well, there's unrar
[10:45] <kameron> Revid, also, sdb2 is an LVM it says
[10:45] <pontusen> sinaduel,  and install it from the repos
[10:46] <Agent_bob> Revid yeah lvm
[10:46] <sinaduel> pontusen, repos?
[10:46] <Revid> kameron, ya i did "mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:46] <Revid> "
[10:46] <pontusen> sinaduel,  using the synaptic
[10:46] <Revid> kameron, whats lvm?
[10:46] <kameron> Revid, that's what's causing you problems. i don't know how to deal with lvms, i'll find out for you.
[10:46] <sinaduel> oh okay, thankyou
[10:46] <kameron> !tell revid about lvm
[10:47] <kameron> revid:  Logical volume management provides a higher-level view of the disk storage on a computer system than the traditional view of disks and partitions. This gives the system administrator much more flexibility in allocating storage to applications and users.
[10:47] <juanma_> alguien habla espaol
[10:47] <ompaul> !es
[10:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:47] <kameron> !es
[10:48] <Revid> kameron, so lvm is a filesystem like ext3?
[10:48] <kameron> a straight up cool hand look i see, ompaul  :P
[10:48] <kameron> luke*.. man my spelling sucks
[10:48] <ompaul> kameron, :)
[10:48] <kameron> Revid, yes, i suppose. i've never really got into it, just heard it mentioned a bit.
[10:49] <tuxcicles> sunubuntu, mine looks like 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe'
[10:49] <bad_iNFO> ext2 or ext3?
[10:49] <ompaul> Revid, it is much more flexable but really unless it is a professional requirement I would not bother
[10:49] <Agent_bob> last time i messed with lvm  my drive was like 'why the hell did you do that to me ????   i mad, and wont work any more ! "    hehhe so i kinda haven't been back to it sense.
[10:50] <ompaul> bad_iNFO, 3
[10:50] <bad_iNFO> ty
[10:50] <Revid> ompaul, do you know what the -t switch label is for it in mount?
[10:50] <Agent_bob> ext3 = ext2 + journal
[10:50] <CyberMad> i have error like this (when do ./configure of freeradius):  configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:51] <CyberMad> i already install the gcc
[10:51] <CyberMad> how to fix it?
[10:51] <Agent_bob> -t = type
[10:51] <Mabus06> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:51] <Mabus06> CyberMad: ^
[10:51] <ompaul> Revid ,  type of file system  - vfat or reiser or something else
[10:51] <foxpaul> does anyone know a way i can get rid of the spaces in a load of file names quickly?
[10:51] <CyberMad> Mabus06 thanks.. i will try it
[10:52] <tuxcicles> foxpaul, use pearl to rename them
[10:52] <Agent_bob> sudo mount /boot/initrd* -t cram $HOME/Desktop
[10:52] <afief> I am asked to login when i try to access my network drivier, yet no matter what i do, nothing works
[10:52] <Revid> kameron, i cannot find the filesystem type name, do you know where i should look
[10:53] <Revid> kameron, or is there a way to get a list of the filesystem types
[10:53] <kameron> Revid, i couldn't find it either, i'm looking into how to mount an lvm for you now, bare with me
[10:53] <ompaul> afief, did you use your own password?
[10:53] <Revid> kameron, ok thanks
[10:53] <afief> ompaul: yes, but it just keeps asking
[10:53] <kameron> Revid, man mount lists a bunch under the -t section, but doesn't say anything obvious about lbm
[10:53] <kameron> lvm*
[10:53] <ompaul> afief, what command did you try to execute?
[10:54] <Chousuke> Heh: 11:40 <@Rancid-> they should use this song for Ubuntu advertising | 11:41 <@Rancid-> "Do you know where the power lies and who pulls the strings? Do you know where the power lies? It starts and ends with (yo)u!"
[10:54] <sunubuntu> tuxcircles:I have told u the error that i am getting while updating repositories
[10:54] <afief> ompaul: none, places->Netowrk Servers under Gnome
[10:54] <ompaul> kameron, No manual entry for spelling :-)
[10:54] <kameron> ompaul, what?
[10:54] <ompaul> kameron, man my spell check as per you eariler :-)  lmb lvm
[10:55] <kameron> ompaul, oh, :P
[10:55] <afief> ompaul: any idea how i can still access my network driver? half an hour ago it worked normal
[10:56] <ompaul> afief, no idea I just had a look I don't have any boxes on this morning to log into
[10:56] <ompaul> afief, the obvious if it worked half an hour ago - are you still logged in? what has changed etc
[10:56] <foxpaul> Agent_bob, file?
[10:56] <tuxcicles> sunubuntu, yes, and it sounds like the server is down from what i can gather
[10:57] <afief> ompaul: ummm loged in yes, i executed some sudo commands, installed a game... nothing serious
[10:57] <Revid> kameron, how do i exit the manual
[10:57] <kameron> Revid, q
[10:57] <Revid> kameron, i wanna try reiserfs
[10:57] <kameron> Revid, giver
[10:57] <tuxcicles> sunubuntu, go here to generate a new sources.list, i would backup the one you got first though, try http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:58] <ompaul> Revid, there are lots of people who don't trust it
[10:58] <Agent_bob> foxpaul http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9436   an idea you might look at.
[10:58] <sunubuntu> tuxcircles:thanks man.i will try
[10:58] <cion> hey all can some1 explain to me what fluxbox and how to use it?
[10:58] <foxpaul> Agent_bob, cheers
[10:58] <ompaul> Revid, and I am one of them - if it goes screwy I have never been able to recover from it
[10:59] <Revid> kameron, what does giver mean?
[10:59] <Revid> ompaul, are you talking about lvm?
[10:59] <kameron> Revid, oh.. it means.. "go ahead and do it".. giver, as in 'give her'.. just a dumb redneck expression i guess?
[10:59] <Revid> kameron, ok
[10:59] <Revid> kameron, didnt work
[11:00] <ompaul> Revid, no reiser
[11:00] <cion> hey all if i install fluxbox can i remove nautilus?
[11:00] <Agent_bob> you can
[11:00] <Revid> ompaul, no, i saw that it is a supported filesystem type in the manual but alas it didnt work
[11:01] <kameron> Revid, no, i mean.. if you want to try reiserFS, why not give it a try.
[11:01] <cion> what do i need to do?
[11:01] <Revid> kameron, you mean try to mount with the reiserfs type?
[11:02] <kameron> Revid, no, i thought you meant "at some point in my linux life, i want to try out a resierFS drive".. but trying to use that type won't help.
[11:02] <ompaul> Revid, you need to take a partition wipe it an install it
[11:02] <kameron> Revid, it's possible that the drive is corrupt. did you have a bad crash or anything?
[11:03] <Revid> kameron, yes it was a problem in fedora, got alot of kernal errors
[11:03] <Protocol1> its good to have realplayer
[11:04] <Revid> kameron, i have the drive mirrored i am going to install that drive and try to mount
[11:04] <kameron> Revid, and all you want to do is recover the data, right?
[11:04] <Revid> kameron, yes
[11:04] <kameron> Revid, hmm, okay.
[11:04] <Revid> kameron, be back on in a few
[11:04] <kameron> Revid, how big is the drive?
[11:04] <kameron> Revid, okay.
[11:04] <Shinjan> hi folks
[11:04] <tk> ok... sound problem didnt go away... if I run an AVI file it seems like sound doesnt come back after I close the player
[11:05] <Revid> kameron, 80gb but only 1.5gb are in use
[11:05] <kameron> Revid, okay
[11:05] <kameron> Revid, you can also try asking around in #lvm, but there's only 25 people there, one of them being me, totally useless.
[11:06] <kameron> but i have to go for a bit, bbl Revid
[11:06] <simira> are there any way to boot without noticing the cd in the cd-rom (for automatic installation)
[11:07] <tk> any suggestions on sound dying after avi playback?
[11:07] <Agent_bob> simira have a floppy drive ?
[11:07] <simira> Agent_bob: no
[11:07] <tk> !RestrictedFormats
[11:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:07] <Agent_bob> simira can the box boot anything ?
[11:07] <tk> !freeformats
[11:07] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:08] <simira> Agent_bob: usb probably, but that doesn't help much... we're using a mastered cd and a network preseed file
[11:09] <pontusen> wake me up... when september ends
[11:09] <Agent_bob> simira could you pull the hdd and cp the ubuntu partition from another installed system ?
[11:10] <Madpilot> pontusen, that's a great album :P
[11:10] <simira> Agent_bob: that's probably more work than a manual installation
[11:10] <pontusen> Madpilot,  it sure is :)
[11:10] <Protocol1> i see a lot of debian users converting over to this
[11:10] <Agent_bob> simira not if you can't boot the system...
[11:11] <simira> Agent_bob: I can boot the system. I just want to boot it without the cd after the first part of the installation
[11:12] <Agent_bob> simira oh.   well after the first part of the installation you should pull the cd at the reboot.  let it boot normal to finish the install
[11:13] <pontusen> ubuntu has grown quite much lately, or am I wrong?
[11:14] <Agent_bob> it helps us help you simira if you be specific about what you can and cannot do, and what you wish to acomplish.
[11:14] <simira> Agent_bob: yes, but then there was the "automatic" part of it. I am supposed not to attend the installation process at all
[11:14] <simira> pontusen: mostly since it started out, yes
[11:14] <pontusen> simira,  great :)
[11:15] <simira> Agent_bob: I want a complete automatic installation, from booting on the cd to the login prompt. Including a reboot not having a new boot from cd
[11:15] <balayhashi> is firefox 1.5.0.1 stable?
[11:15] <pontusen> balayhashi,  yes.
[11:16] <balayhashi> tks
[11:18] <Agent_bob> simira that would be a cery unlikely propasition.   you will have to tell the bios to boot the hdd first then the cd and make the hdd unbootable the first pass.   i.e.  force the bios to fail the hdd boot, drop through to cd boot,  then on reboot it will succeed at hdd boot.   not an easy task.
[11:18] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i get this error when i try and boot my ubuntu box: ALERT! /dev/hda does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[11:18] <Hmmmm> anyone have a fix?
[11:19] <Agent_bob> edit /etc/fstab   and set your root partition correctly   /          Hmmmm    use fdisk -l    to determine where the root fs is
[11:19] <pontusen> Hmmmm,  sure you do have a hda? and sure you have the needed modules in your kernel?
[11:20] <simira> Agent_bob: there are easier solutions to that, I know. But thanks for trying. I'll do some more reading myself.
[11:20] <r2ndom> how can i mount a windows share?  example:  i want to mount smb://WinXPBox/Shared mounted as /usr/Share/
[11:20] <Hmmmm> Agent_bob, looks like u'r right
[11:20] <Hmmmm> all of a sudden all my hdas have turned into sdas
[11:20] <CarinArr> uhm.. bit confused
[11:21] <Agent_bob> sata Hmmmm ?
[11:21] <Hmmmm> nope just regular ide
[11:21] <CarinArr> shouldnt' the kde package install all the kde stuff necessary to run kde?
[11:21] <Hmmmm> Agent_bob, i have no idea how it happened
[11:21] <pontusen> CarinArr,  yes?
[11:21] <Agent_bob> you enabled ide-scsi   ;)
[11:21] <Hmmmm> Agent_bob, i just upgraded from gbreezy to dapper, and this happened
[11:21] <CarinArr> cause it seems all it installed is /usr/share/doc/kde/*
[11:21] <CarinArr> no binaries or anything
[11:22] <Hmmmm> Agent_bob, I have an old kernel whih stil works, so im booted into that
[11:23] <Hmmmm> Agent_bob, hang on... i think i got that info wrong
[11:23] <Hmmmm> it was from another machine
[11:24] <vladuz976> isn't there a program like mathematica called octavio?
[11:24] <weex> does anyone know how i can check if modrewrite is compiled into apache?
[11:24] <Agent_bob> Hmmmm still if fstab is wrong fix it.  bottom line.
[11:24] <ompaul> Hmmmm, i had the bot send you a message
[11:24] <Hmmmm> /dev/hda4              16G   11G  3.5G  76% /
[11:25] <Agent_bob> vladuz976 search in the package manager
[11:25] <Hmmmm> ompaul, will keep that in mind... sorry about it
[11:25] <ompaul> np
[11:25] <Hmmmm> Agent_bob, the fstab looks okay. the weird thing is that thge older kernel works fine
[11:26] <GTX> lo guys, I installed this vchs control panel last night which installed all sorts of things, apache2, mysql and loads more. I cant seem to remove all the packages, But how can I remove them so they dont try to startup on boot
[11:27] <kos> why does middle click on a tab in Firefox paste instead of closing the tab?
[11:27] <Agent_bob> how do you know if the fstab is correct or not.... you are not in the failed system ?    but at any rate.   check you /boot/grub/menu.lst also but it should panic if root is wrong there.
[11:27] <bad_iNFO> does KDE have any good package managers?
[11:27] <Agent_bob> kos because middle click is supposed to paste.
[11:28] <Protocol1> !jdoom
[11:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, jdoom is a port of ID's Doom to Linux. The jDoom engine supports Doom, Doom II, Hexen and Heretic. Instructions for installation on Breezy can be found at http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi/community-projects/yagisan-s-doomsday-for-debian-ubuntu
[11:28] <Hmmmm> Agent_bob, i am in the broken system. like i said, an older kernel (from breezy) works fine. the same settings edon't seem to work for the newer dapper kernel
[11:29] <Mabus06> Hmmmm: they don't call it unstable for nothing
[11:29] <Grarg> anyone familiar with digital cameras? mine's giving me problems on Ubuntu
[11:29] <kameron_afk> Mabus06, hahah
[11:29] <kameron_afk> Grarg, i use a fuji with ubuntu
[11:29] <Grarg> it's a Kodak easyshare C360
[11:30] <Madpilot> Grarg, have you tried gThumb?
[11:30] <Hmmmm> Mabus06, well im not blaming anyone, i just want to know how to fix it
[11:30] <Grarg> speicifically gThumb, no, but I'm guessing it's based of the same libs as digikam and such
[11:30] <Mabus06> Hmmmm: #ubuntu+1 is the dapper channel
[11:31] <Hmmmm> Mabus06, already tried that channel, everyone seems asleep out there
[11:31] <kos> Agent_bob, usually in ubuntu it doesnt
[11:31] <Grarg> when I connect my camera, I can get thumbnails and such, but get anything more from it, or to be able to save
[11:31] <Grarg> *... but I can't get ...
[11:31] <Hmmmm> i think i'll just compile my own kernel
[11:32] <Howitzer> aaaargh
[11:32] <Howitzer> i'm on smallband
[11:32] <Howitzer> i now have a dialup connection
[11:32] <Howitzer> damnit
[11:33] <Grarg> I get the error "An error occurred in the io-library ('Unspecified error'): Could not query kernel driver of device." from gThumb
[11:33] <Howitzer> it takes 5minutes, just to update the repositories :(
[11:33] <kos> where does ubuntu get the printer drivers database?
[11:34] <ompaul> kos from cups afik
[11:34] <ompaul> Howitzer, so # out the repos until you want to use them just do security and updates
[11:36] <Grarg> nm, gthumb works for some reason, despite the others not working
[11:36] <Grarg> thank you
[11:36] <ompaul> Howitzer, had the bot send you a message
[11:37] <Howitzer> ja
[11:37] <Howitzer> *y es
[11:38] <ompaul> Howitzer, ... :-)
[11:38] <Howitzer> eh
[11:38] <Howitzer> i don't
[11:38] <Howitzer> get
[11:38] <Howitzer> it
[11:38] <ompaul> don't hit enter after every word
[11:39] <Wolfwood> oder sterben
[11:39] <Howitzer> but i dont
[11:39] <Howitzer> ooooh
[11:39] <Howitzer> now i see
[11:39] <Wolfwood> Ja
[11:41] <Fredde> My router is spooky
[11:41] <Fredde> Sometimes it let med download torrents, and sometimes not
[11:41] <Wolfwood> Does it speak?
[11:41] <kameron_afk> Revid, hey you there?
[11:42] <Wolfwood> Is it called Damien?
[11:42] <Fredde> D-link 604
[11:44] <Madpilot> Fredde, I've got a DLink 604 as well, never had any trouble with it...
[11:46] <Revid>  kameron yeah
[11:46] <kameron> Revid, sudo apt-get install libdevmapper1.01
[11:46] <Revid> kameron, i put the other hd in which should have been mirrored via raid and no luck so far
[11:47] <skaja> how do i use apt-get i forgot
[11:47] <kameron> Revid, it should be already installed, but if not, then there's no way of mounting the lvm.
[11:47] <Revid> kameron, already newest version
[11:47] <kameron> skaja, sudo apt-get install packagename
[11:47] <cwillu> What's the command to look at syslog?
[11:47] <p0windah> first thing, you will only need html and JS to get hello world working
[11:47] <kameron> Revid, yeah.. thought so, just an idea.
[11:47] <Revid> kameron, k
[11:49] <Protocol1> is there any good popular multiplayer games for ubuntu?
[11:49] <Protocol1> someone name a few
[11:49] <pontusen> Protocol1,  vlc, mplayer, xine.
[11:50] <pontusen> games. my bad:/
[11:50] <Revid> kameron, did you see what that guy told me in the lvm room?  he said lvm can be any file system
[11:50] <kameron> Revid, yes, i know that. i am following along in lvm.
[11:50] <pontusen> Protocol1,  quake3,4, unral tornament.
[11:50] <pontusen> unreal*
[11:50] <kbrooks> I want to updqate my tomboy to 0.3.5.
[11:50] <kbrooks> Does dapper have this?
[11:50] <kameron> Revid, lvm is a manipulation of a filesystem.. you can 'stripe' any filesystem with lvm.. to enhance it's features. i know little about it though.
[11:51] <cwillu> anybody here familiar with the firefox/mozilla issues?
[11:51] <kameron> cwillu, what issue?
[11:51] <Protocol1> pontusen, let me guess im going to have to use cedega for that eh
[11:51] <pontusen> Protocol1,  nope. they are all native!
[11:51] <Protocol1> whoa
[11:51] <cwillu> firefox sluggishness being solved by installing the mozilla.org version, and how that might apply to mozilla itself
[11:51] <pontusen> Protocol1,  and doom as well.
[11:52] <Madpilot> Protocol1, Enemy Territory has a Linux version - so does America's Army
[11:52] <cwillu> I downloaded the mozilla gtk build a week ago;  I _think_ I'm running it via the quick+dirty way (unpacked into my home directory running it from therE)
[11:52] <Madpilot> kbrooks, check packages.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <cwillu> it appears to have the same issue though (memory leak)
[11:53] <kameron> cwillu, can't help you really.
[11:53] <thefish> anyone managed to softlink a dir into their ~/public_html? I have tried, but i get access denied and a log line saying .htaccess not readable. Even after touching an .htaccess in the dir, i cant get it... any ideas?
[11:53] <George> hi
[11:54] <George> I have tried to install dapper but it won't recognise my root filesystem. I think this is because the driver for my IDE chipset is compiled as a module
[11:54] <George> what option do I need to put in grub.conf to tell it to load that module?
[11:55] <xmaster> hi all
[11:55] <xmaster> howto enable on ubuntu 5.10. core.pid name formatted core dump files ?
[11:55] <Protocol1> Americas Army sounds good
[11:56] <Revid> kameron, boy this should not be this difficult.  maybe i just need to figure out a different route.  If I could verify the files exist on one of the drives I would setup fedora again and just mount from there
[11:56] <skaja> apt-get cant find the word games
[11:56] <kameron> Revid, i don't know if fc would help
[11:56] <kameron> skaja, sudo apt-cache search games
[11:56] <Revid> that is what it was originally setup on so i would think i could read the drive from it
[11:57] <Wolfwood> Why would America Army sound good?
[11:58] <kameron> Revid, maybe?
[11:58] <adriyel> hola room
[11:58] <kameron> word adriyel
[11:58] <adriyel> kameron...insomnia is SO cool.
[11:58] <redblade> Hi, what plugin would I need to play mp3's that are playing in a website?
[11:59] <kameron> adriyel, ofcourse man. you'll have plenty of time to sleep when you're dead.
[11:59] <adriyel> lack...of...fatigue.
[11:59] <skaja> are there other places i can get apt-get file list
[11:59] <adriyel> kameron, indeed. g/f will be pissed when she gets here though (its 0559 right now EST my time)
[11:59] <kameron> red-tag, install mplayer and the mozilla-mplayer plugin, it plays mp3s.
[11:59] <kameron> adriyel, i know, you told me in offtopic :P
[11:59] <adriyel> do make sure you've apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:59] <adriyel> kameron, indeed.
[12:00] <adriyel> ways to waste time...how shall I list thee...
[12:00] <Wolfwood> Trying to make Linux work right
[12:01] <xmaster> howto enable create core.pid name formatted core dump files on ubuntu 5.10 ?
[12:01] <adriyel> in Soviet Russia, work Linux make you
[12:01] <kameron> redblade, , install mplayer and the mozilla-mplayer plugin, it plays mp3s.
[12:01] <kameron> adriyel, hahahahaha
[12:01] <adriyel> kameron, broken record?
[12:01] <Wolfwood> I will try to remember that after I expatriate :P
[12:01] <kameron> adriyel, i said it to the wrong person last time.. the tab button often gets me sending things to the wrong person.
[12:01] <adriyel> or broken receivers?
[12:01] <Wolfwood> to Russia
[12:01] <Eiscreme> hi
[12:02] <adriyel> kameron, in win32, tab doesn't work here
[12:02] <kameron> adriyel, man, windows pwns
[12:02] <skaja> how do i install the linux fire wall?
[12:02] <kameron> no auto-tab to screw you up. maybe i should switch.
[12:02] <adriyel> expatriation....I'd rather go to China, so that a government can think for me
[12:02] <kameron> skaja, sudo apt-get install iptables
[12:02] <adriyel> kameron, lolz.
[12:02] <adriyel> kameron, I thought kernel had built in firewall
[12:02] <kameron> adriyel, it does, but if he wants more customizable rules.. might aswell get that.
[12:02] <adriyel> I've never used it...but...oh...well that explains a lot
[12:03] <Wolfwood> China gets a lot of negative press over here. No way of knowing how accurate it all is, anyway.
[12:03] <adriyel> Wolfwood...*blank stare*
[12:03] <THJ> GJC just took over as my default Java interpreter. i don't want this. how do i set it back to Sun Java?
[12:03] <adriyel> it's a communist country that supresses free speech
[12:03] <adriyel> wtf...are you smoking?
[12:03] <adriyel> THJ, restricted formats, install java.
[12:04] <adriyel> ubotu tell THJ about restricted formats
[12:04] <adriyel> gahhhh, stupid window
[12:04] <Wolfwood> I do not know - I just know I cannot get a decent keyboard layout right now.
[12:04] <adriyel> I have no shortcut for window switching in windows
[12:04] <adriyel> it's a 32-bit chat program with windows, and I can't use the windows key to switch windows inside windows
[12:04] <adriyel> wtf is wrong with my windows?
[12:04] <adriyel> ...
[12:04] <THJ> adriyel, i have a .deb of Sun Java that i made, i just reinstall that, then?
[12:05] <Hentai^XP> crtl-tab
[12:05] <adriyel> THJ....suuuuure.
[12:05] <Hentai^XP> oh wait wrong window
[12:05] <kameron> THJ, might aswelll
[12:05] <bimberi> THJ: try 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' first
[12:05] <Hentai^XP> thought thios was ##windows....
[12:05] <adriyel> Hentai^XP, one problem with that, it seems to use fuzzy circuit logic to determine which window it goes to
[12:05] <THJ> bimberi: ah, thanks, that was the sort of thing i was looking for
[12:05] <Hentai^XP> adriyel sorry thought this was ##windows at first
[12:06] <bimberi> THJ: np :)
[12:06] <adriyel> can I implement some sort of directionality to this?
[12:06] <adriyel> Hentai^XP, well, I was trying to be satirical, but it is true.
[12:06] <THJ> bimberi: thanks, that seems to have worked
[12:06] <adriyel> humorous, anyways.
[12:06] <Hentai^XP> adriyel for?
[12:06] <adriyel> my nose is cold
[12:06] <adriyel> coldness of the nasal passages. nose is cold
[12:07] <xmaster> hi, howto enable on ubuntu 5.10. core.pid name formatted core dump files ?
[12:07] <adriyel> exactly how does one get their eyes to cease burning?
[12:07] <kuja> How do I run something in the background and not have it die when the terminal is killed?
[12:07] <kuja> (gnome-terminal)
[12:08] <adriyel> kuja, don't start it in the terminal XD
[12:08] <adriyel> zomg...I just tried to escape to a terminal in windows.
[12:08] <adriyel> dang it.
[12:08] <kameron> kuja, run it from alt+f2
[12:08] <adriyel> I hate win32.
[12:09] <adriyel> evidently.
[12:09] <kuja> kameron: Still dies.
[12:09] <adriyel> using a terminal escape
[12:09] <adriyel> kills the proggie in windows
[12:09] <adriyel> I would venture a guess
[12:09] <kameron> kuja, no, it doesn't. alt+f2, then type in the app name, enter. i shouldn't die.
[12:09] <adriyel> as to say, that this is terminal number four.
[12:09] <kuja> kameron: The script I am attempting to run is in an infinite loop. I can get it to work in a terminal as long as I don't kill it. `ruby /.../...`
[12:09] <adriyel> kameron, see above, have a laugh at my stupidity.
[12:10] <kameron> adriyel, i didn't really get it, my ninja friend
[12:10] <adriyel> ok
[12:10] <kuja> kameron: Apparently dies... :(
[12:10] <kameron> kuja, .. what?
[12:10] <adriyel> how do you switch terminals kameron in Linux?
[12:10] <adriyel> now...think about that one
[12:10] <kameron> adriyel, ctrl+alt+f#
[12:10] <Protocol1> does ubuntu have SElinux on it?
[12:10] <adriyel> now think about how I just disconnected then came back
[12:10] <Eiscreme> big problem people ... there is no official MD5 Sum of Kubuntu ...
[12:10] <adriyel> kameron, only if you're using X n00b
[12:10] <kuja> kameron: The command I run is basically: `ruby script.rb`
[12:10] <kuja> Where script.rb goes on forever.
[12:10] <Eiscreme> http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/kubuntu/5.10/
[12:10] <adriyel> it's alt-f# in pure terminal joy
[12:10] <Eiscreme> no MD5 suim
[12:10] <adriyel> now.
[12:11] <adriyel> when I tried to use terminal four
[12:11] <adriyel> what do you s'pose happened to my client?
[12:11] <kameron> adriyel, yes, i know that.
[12:11] <kameron> adriyel, i don't know, i haven't tried doing that before.
[12:11] <adriyel> stupid unix reflexes.
[12:11] <adriyel> it closed
[12:11] <adriyel> the program
[12:11] <kameron> adriyel, beisdes, i thought you were in win32?
[12:11] <adriyel> alt-f4 is an escape sequence
[12:11] <adriyel> kameron, yes I am, but I forgot that
[12:11] <kameron> adriyel, ohhh, hahahha.
[12:11] <adriyel> I am using blackbox for win32
[12:11] <adriyel> and I forget sometimes
[12:11] <adriyel> k?
[12:11] <adriyel> and then I cry
[12:12] <kameron> i didn't know they had it. it runs on top of the regular gui?
[12:12] <adriyel> not quite
[12:12] <adriyel> you have to kill explorer.exe
[12:12] <adriyel> rip it out
[12:12] <kuja> kameron: I run it with alt+f2, then I check back in terminal with `ps` to see if it's there. It isn't.
[12:12] <adriyel> and replace it with blackbox
[12:12] <adriyel> this doesn't always work.
[12:12] <colm_working> it's an explorer.exe replacement
[12:12] <adriyel> registry change is required.
[12:12] <kameron> kuja, yeah, because it's a script, not a program.
[12:12] <adriyel> touching the registry is like touching yourself...it feels good, but gets messy
[12:13] <kameron> lmfao
[12:13] <kuja> kameron: Eh? I don't get it.
[12:13] <kameron> i hate touching the registry. touching myself, is another story.
[12:13] <adriyel> example: "feel the power of 1337 registry hacking...omg windoze died"
[12:13] <kameron> kuja, a script is different from a program
[12:13] <kuja> kameron: Regardless of the terminology you're using, it's still an endless process, AFAIK.
[12:13] <adriyel> kameron, I'd rather muck around with a bsd daemon
[12:13] <kuja> kameron: What can I do?
[12:13] <kameron> kuja, do you know the difference between a script and a program?
[12:13] <adriyel> and that's comparable to sacrificing a goat
[12:14] <adriyel> HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
[12:14] <kuja> kameron: Interpreted code vs executable compiled code?
[12:14] <adriyel> Gangsta's Paradise, ACAPELLA
[12:14] <adriyel> lol, this is great
[12:14] <kameron> kuja, sure, more/less.
[12:14] <kameron> kuja, scripts require a shell, generally.
[12:14] <ompaul> adriyel, please take to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:14] <kuja> kameron: Ah, I see.
[12:14] <skaja> i'm wondering where do i make ubuntu/gnome more nicer looking
[12:15] <Madpilot> !tell skaja about themes
[12:15] <adriyel> skaja system - preferences - themes
[12:15] <kameron> skaja, start by not using gnome
[12:15] <kameron> skaja, every gnome theme is ugly, period.
[12:15] <adriyel> skaja, that's like asking Gandhi to be fat...or Rush Limbaugh to think...it just don't happen man
[12:16] <kameron> truer words never spoken
[12:16] <kuja> kameron: I'm a little lost here though. Is it possible to get the script going?
[12:16] <Madpilot> skaja, the bot should have sent you a bunch of URLs - hunt thru to find a theme that suits you
[12:16] <adriyel> kuja, I think he is trying to say that it is
[12:16] <adriyel> Madpilot, much more satisfying to heckle GUI's
[12:16] <skaja> i had kde/gnome installed but forgot how to do it :-(
[12:16] <adriyel> can we make fun of KDE now?
[12:17] <adriyel> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:17] <kuja> adriyel: I can do whatever to my knowledge to try to make it work, but I'm still unsure of the right thing.
[12:17] <Madpilot> adriyel, on #ubuntu-offtopic, you can
[12:17] <kameron> kuja, yes, from a shell
[12:17] <adriyel> no fun.
[12:17] <Wolfwood> Whew, better
[12:17] <kuja> kameron: So an invisible shell, how so?
[12:17] <kbrooks> kuja: i think, xgl
[12:18] <kameron> kuja, lol.. dude, i said nothing of an invisible shell.
[12:18] <adriyel> xgl, bleh. AIGLX for life.
[12:18] <Wolfwood> KDE has always been a big stinkin' Windows clone to me
[12:18] <cwillu> is there any chance that even though I'm running mozilla from it's own folder, it's still using code from the ubuntu mozilla?
[12:18] <adriyel> kameron, make it a GHOST!
[12:18] <kbrooks> talk about it in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:18] <kameron> kuja, send me the script, or paste it at:
[12:18] <ndlovu> any idea how I can change the editor that crontab -e opens by default (currently mc I think)?
[12:18] <kameron> !tell kuja about paste
[12:18] <kameron> kuja, so i can take a look
[12:18] <adriyel> Wolfwood, and you'd rather have a big stinkin mac clone?
[12:18] <adriyel> I'll pass on both.
[12:18] <adriyel> *box for life.
[12:19] <kuja> kameron: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/hYtLvD99.html -- It's a Ruby script
[12:19] <Madpilot> folks - bash-the-GUIs can take place in #ubuntu-offtopic, please & thank you...
[12:19] <Wolfwood> Does that mean Gnome's a Mac clone?
[12:19] <kbrooks> Wolfwood: NO
[12:19] <Wolfwood> Then I don't get it
[12:20] <Madpilot> it means you can continue the chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[12:20] <kbrooks> obey Madpilot please
[12:20] <skaja> mac osx uses bsd i think
[12:20] <Wolfwood> Oh quit attacing free speech
[12:20] <Wolfwood> Nutters
[12:20] <kameron> kuja, is it executable?
[12:20] <Wolfwood> Or free spelling :P
[12:20] <kuja> kameron: Yeah
[12:21] <kbrooks> Wolfwood: free speech is not applicable to IRC, homes, companies, or any private instution including schools
[12:21] <Wolfwood> Heh right
[12:21] <adriyel> kbrooks, actually, I go to a PUBLIC, school
[12:21] <Wolfwood> Free speech is permitted inside one's head ONLY
[12:21] <redblade> Hey I'm back
[12:21] <adriyel> one that mine and my parents' taxes paid for
[12:21] <kuja> kameron: You saying that... made me try ./path/to/script from ALT+F2...
[12:21] <adriyel> you know...public.
[12:21] <kbrooks> Wolfwood: the *government* can't arrest you for speaking out against the *government*
[12:21] <Wolfwood> I went to public school
[12:22] <kuja> kameron: And, works, apparently.
[12:22] <kameron> kuja, cool.
[12:22] <adriyel> public school censorship is bleh.
[12:22] <kameron> kuja, what ruby files do you need install to run a ruby script?
[12:22] <Wolfwood> Government can't technically arrest anyone..
[12:22] <ompaul> gents please  move the conversation to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic or Madpilot or I will enforce it and I don't want to op myself today, please
[12:22] <kuja> kameron: sudo apt-get install ruby
[12:22] <Wolfwood> I tried.
[12:22] <cwillu> whats the link to the firefox 1.5 instructions again?
[12:22] <Wolfwood> i know what I did - forgot my #
[12:22] <redblade> So anyway i got mplayer and mozilla plugin but it won't play the mp3
[12:22] <kbrooks> Wolfwood: show the ops you tried ;)
[12:22] <Madpilot> !ff1.5
[12:22] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:23] <cwillu> thx
[12:23] <Madpilot> np
[12:23] <ndlovu> can anyone help me figure out why my cron jobs are not running (or one in particular)?
[12:23] <redblade> Do I have to do something else now?
[12:23] <Eiscreme> People,  _PLEASE_ give me an official   MD5-Sum  for the  Breezy   CD  ISO of  "Kubuntu"
[12:23] <Eiscreme> there is none in any of the mirrors
[12:23] <kameron> kuja, script works for me fine now that i have the ruby packages installed.
[12:23] <cwillu> btw, if I start what I think is a mozilla.org build, go to about:, and see that it's still talking about ubuntu, does that mean I'm not running the program I think I'm running?
[12:23] <skaja> oh god i dont know should i get gtk2.x theam/style or 1.x styles/themes?
[12:24] <kameron> cwillu, probably
[12:24] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, no md5sum file at the mirrors?
[12:24] <ompaul> ndlovu, usually one of two problems the timing is wrong or the script carries no environment
[12:24] <redblade> the site (mine) requires quicktime to be played
[12:24] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: none
[12:24] <kameron> cwillu, unless the moz.org build is an ubuntu one
[12:24] <Madpilot> skaja, look for gtk2.x and Metacity stuff
[12:24] <cwillu> it's not
[12:24] <redblade> is quicktime available for Linux?
[12:24] <ndlovu> ompaul: what do you mean it carries no environment?
[12:24] <cwillu> downloaded from mozilla.org itself
[12:24] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: thats really bad .. but please notice that I am talking about  Kubuntu
[12:24] <ihavenohat> hey does anyone know why I can't get the players on the ubuntu live cd to play the .mp3 files from my usb memory stick
[12:24] <r3v3rs3pa> anyone know why my mp3 dvds are being listed as 0 files/folders... i believe they are burned in um, whatchamacallit, udf format is it?
[12:24] <kameron> ihavenohat, live-cd doesn't have mp3 support.
[12:24] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, it's mostly the same mirrors, though, I think?
[12:25] <ompaul> ndlovu, some assumption about paths or some such
[12:25] <r3v3rs3pa> i am on ubuntu
[12:25] <ihavenohat> thatnks
[12:25] <redblade> QuickTime?
[12:25] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: but different download directories
[12:25] <redblade> !quicktime
[12:25] <ubotu> from memory, quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[12:25] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: I got my ISO from here:   http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/kubuntu/5.10/
[12:26] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: please do anything to give me an MD5-Sum  before I burn it
[12:26] <Eiscreme> please
[12:26] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, just a sec
[12:26] <ndlovu> ompaul: I've set the path so it should work, and I don't think there are timing issues (but could be wrong). are there logs that I can check to see if it's running at all?
[12:26] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/kubuntu/5.10/MD5SUMS
[12:26] <kuja> kameron: Yeah. works for me too. the ./path/to/script.rb did the trick.
[12:27] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: oh wow !!
[12:27] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, the md5sum files are always right at the top of the directories w/ the ISOs
[12:27] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: sorry
[12:27] <kuja> kameron: Though: sh path/to/script.rb doesn't
[12:27] <Madpilot> np
[12:27] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: I am very sorry for bothering you .. I really tried to find them
[12:27] <kameron> kuja, ./script
[12:27] <kuja> yeah
[12:27] <kuja> kameron: I don't quite understand the difference, yet.
[12:27] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, it's OK - I was about to tell you to file a bug against the mirror you used, for not having the md5sum files :P
[12:28] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: just one more question:   How can I verify the sums now?
[12:28] <kameron> kuja, i can't really explain it.
[12:28] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, which OS are you in right now?
[12:28] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: Mepis
[12:28] <Eiscreme> a debian based distro
[12:28] <ompaul> ndlovu, /var/log/syslog has some info
[12:28] <Madpilot> it should have the command-line md5 utils
[12:28] <r3v3rs3pa> whelp, i answered my own question udf support has to be built in most distros, i assume it is the same with ubuntu
[12:29] <Eiscreme> bash: md5: command not found
[12:29] <ompaul> r3v3rs3pa, udf?
[12:29] <kbrooks> question.
[12:29] <Eiscreme> Enth: Couldn't find package md5
[12:29] <r3v3rs3pa> err, ya my dvd's of mp3's show up as empty discs
[12:29] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[12:29] <kbrooks> tomboy should be included in dapper+1, no?
[12:29] <cwillu> one of these days, I'm going to remember that the current folder _isn't_ on the system path
[12:30] <ompaul> kbrooks, you should know to just ask :-
[12:30] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, you want the "md5sum" util
[12:30] <ompaul> kbrooks, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ the fountain of all knowledge
[12:30] <kameron> cwillu, it is, isn't it?
[12:31] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: cool I have it
[12:31] <Eiscreme> Madpilot: thank you very much once more :)
[12:31] <cwillu> no, you can't run an application in the current dir without prefixing it with ./
[12:31] <skaja> how do i install a new style
[12:31] <Madpilot> Eiscreme, just read the "Check the ISO" part on that page I gave you
[12:31] <david> Can't install applications via "Install Application" must use apt
[12:31] <david> because sudo seems to make problems
[12:32] <cwillu> not that I take issue with that, I'm just fighting against 15 years of dos
[12:33] <kameron> cwillu, oh.. yes.. i thought you meant you couldn't do that when you're in the dir.
[12:33] <skaja> ok did it
[12:34] <markitoxs> hello
[12:34] <markitoxs> does anyone know, how to solve a " abi version mismatch" problem?
[12:34] <kameron> word up markitoxs, welcome to the freenode party channel
[12:34] <oga> i need to know which directory ubuntu stores its kernel headers
[12:35] <thn1> Impossible d'afficher /media/usbdisk/Right Here Waiting.lrc.   There were no decoders to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins.  How do I get to the mp3 mass storage unit to work on ubuntu?
[12:35] <skaja> hay how do i get the debian menu image dont want the ubuntu image :-x
[12:35] <oga> what directory does ubuntu keep the kernel source code?
[12:36] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell thn1 about mp3
[12:36] <spiderman> good afternoon everybody. i am new in ubuntu and I've been trying to set upmy DSL Network for mroe than a week. UNfortunately, I simply cannot connect.....
[12:36] <Madpilot> need to get out of here - later, all. Have fun
[12:36] <mdeboer> oga: did you install them?
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> I officially hate my ISP!
[12:37] <oga> dang.... probably not...... (following cisco installation guide for VPN setup).... how do i get them...  synaptic / from CD ???
[12:37] <ompaul> spiderman, what are you using to create the dhcp leases?
[12:37] <mdeboer> oga: synaptic should be ok. look for linux-headers
[12:37] <oga> using Breezyk
[12:38] <oga> thanks
[12:38] <spiderman> ompaul: I don't understand, sorry.
[12:38] <ompaul> spiderman, what is your network configuration
[12:38] <spiderman> pppoe
[12:39] <spiderman> a
[12:39] <oga> and of course the question is now... what's the command to find out what kernel i'm using
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> oga: uname -r
[12:39] <skaja> there is somthing wrong with my apt-get it cant find nothing
[12:40] <spiderman> ompaul:pppoe
[12:40] <Delvien> hey guys how can i force a install of gstreamer-0.8misc ? everytime i apt-get update it tells me error cannot install
[12:40] <dobblego> CD/DVD Creator gives me "some files have invalid filenames" - is there any way to figure out *which* files?
[12:40] <ompaul> spiderman, not the question is your setup Internet - Router/Hub/device - Computer or Internet - Computer
[12:40] <Delvien> dobblego most times its too long of a file name, look for those
[12:40] <oga> mdeboer tonyyarusso much obliged
[12:40] <dobblego> Delvien, cheers (what a pain!)
[12:41] <spiderman> omapual:again, I don't know what you've just said
[12:41] <dejx> what's the runlevel for just console
[12:41] <dejx> not starting X at booting...
[12:41] <ompaul> spiderman, I cam asking you what way is your computer connected to the internet is it via a device (router) or not
[12:41] <cwillu> anybody know of an irc client that can sort/organize messages by sender?
[12:41] <dejx> ompaul, you're still online
[12:41] <dejx> :O
[12:42] <ompaul> dejx, according to rumour that is false :-)
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> Okay, it seems Gnome programs are having trouble accessing the internet, but irssi in a virtual terminal is just fine.  Any ideas?
[12:42] <dejx> if you remember you helped my yesterday, it was today actually
[12:42] <dejx> but i went to bed ;-)
[12:42] <Delvien> hey guys how can i force a install of gstreamer-0.8misc ? everytime i apt-get update it tells me error cannot install
[12:42] <ompaul> dejx, yes
[12:42] <dejx> my/me
[12:42] <cwillu> tony, is there a proxy involved?
[12:43] <funkyHat> tonyyarusso, system > preferences > network proxy
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> cwillu: What do you mean by sort?  For logs or something?
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> cwillu: No.
[12:43] <cwillu> no, like right now, everybody who's talking
[12:43] <dejx> so? what's the runlevel, anyone?
[12:43] <cwillu> rather than timestamp based
[12:43] <dobblego> it was the funny "AE" character in the Tool Aenima song (for those who know it)
[12:44] <anthony> hey, i have used linux (ubuntu 5.10rc and the release version) about 3 months ago, but i stopped shortly after, so i have forgotten pretty much all the commands, now could some one point me to the way of editing one's sources.list? i remembered it's something along the line of... sudo gedit something/sources.list
[12:44] <ompaul> dejx, 1
[12:44] <bimberi> anthony: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:44] <oga> if i want to use make i need to use binutils or something like that hey
[12:44] <rendi> !upgrade
[12:44] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 (breezy) -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, Upgrading to dapper? Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[12:44] <ompaul> anthony, don't add in repos that are not for ubuntu
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> cwillu: I know Gaim can sort the buddy list by log size, maybe current activity, and you can get tabbed windows by group.
[12:44] <funkyHat> oga, if you want to use make do this: sudo apt-get intsall build-essential
[12:45] <dejx> thank you
[12:45] <anthony> bimberi: thanks
[12:45] <anthony> ompaul: i'm just enabling  the backport and the multiverse repository =)
[12:46] <bimberi> anthony: np :)
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> The best part about the internet connection thing is it's totally sketchy.  Up one minute, gone the next.
[12:46] <ompaul> anthony, okay
[12:46] <oga> funkyHat, thanks
[12:46] <dejx> # Runlevel 1 is single-user.
[12:46] <cwillu> what I'm thinking is, for example, in this room, there being a visible pane for each active chatter
[12:46] <dejx> but i want tty1,tty2,tty3
[12:46] <dejx> and this is a server, so, just not starting X
[12:46] <dejx> id:4:initdefault:
[12:47] <dejx> what num is there?
[12:47] <bigmoe> anyone know what is the package for compiling csharp in ubuntu
[12:47] <funkyHat> dejx, that's not a runlevel, just remove X from the startup scripts...
[12:47] <funkyHat> dejx, or uninstall X
[12:47] <cwillu> userPanes[ircMessage.user] .write(ircMessage.text) would be the idea
[12:47] <dejx> aha, ok
[12:48] <dejx> funkyHat, which runlever was previously
[12:48] <dejx> in inittab?
[12:48] <dejx> if you maybe know, cuz i changed and i dont remember now
[12:48] <funkyHat> i'll look in mine
[12:49] <funkyHat> 2
[12:49] <dejx> thank you
[12:49] <skaja>  Art Manager in not installed
[12:50] <ccooke> dejx: Debian distributions only define runlevels 0, 1, 2 and 6. Normal operation is runlevel 2.
[12:50] <ccooke> and Ubuntu inherits its approach from there
[12:51] <Curtman> How do I make automake/aclocal/etc default to using version 1.9, and autoconf/autoheader/etc default to 2.50?
[12:51] <ccooke> If you don't want X starting on bootup, then you can simply disable gdm in the 'services' panel (System -> Administration -> Services) or from the command line with 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[12:52] <skaja> !tell skaja about firewalls
[12:52] <anthony> okay, what i would like to do now is do a clean "server install" of ubuntu, so just the base system, the reason for this is i don't want all the applications ubuntu pre-install on my computer (such as openoffice, xsane, evolution, etc.), yes i know i can remove them in synaptic packet manager but there might be unused dependencies left behind, and besides, i like to do a clean install =) so my question is: due to my lack o
[12:52] <anthony> f knowledge with the CLI, i would like to get the x windows system (GUI), gnome, and the synaptic manager up and running after the server installation, what are the packages i need to get in order to get these things (GUI, which is gnome, and synaptic packet manager) up and running? (i know if i do sudo apt-get build-dep xorg then it will install xorg and all of its dependencies, the problem is i don't know which "core" pa
[12:52] <anthony> ckages to install in order to get the GUI  up and running)
[12:52] <skaja> !tell skaja about firefox
[12:53] <funkyHat> anthony, you don't need to get build deps for anything.
[12:53] <ccooke> anthony: okay. Firstly, you want the base system and ubuntu-minimal
[12:54] <anthony> ok hold on  let me write these down, by the way, if there is a wiki or howto on this you guys can just direct me to there then i can just read up
[12:54] <dejx> for mysql
[12:54] <dejx> what the name of package to install with apt-get ?
[12:55] <funkyHat> anthony, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome gdm synaptic
[12:55] <oga> I'm getting an error saying that "could not attach to driver. Is the kernel module loaded"....  any help?
[12:55] <bimberi> dejx: mysql-server, but check here ...
[12:55] <bimberi> !lamp
[12:55] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:56] <dejx> root@server:/etc/init.d# chmod -x xorg-common
[12:56] <ccooke> anthony: Secondly, there are nice command line tools which can help you work out this information
[12:56] <dejx> this will stop starting X at booting, right?
[12:56] <funkyHat> dejx, that will break things, don't do that
[12:56] <dejx> its only *x*
[12:56] <dejx> in init.d
[12:57] <funkyHat> dejx, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:57] <funkyHat> as ccooke said earlier
[12:57] <ccooke> dejx: ... it will *break* things.
[12:57] <ccooke> dejx: use the update-rc.d funkyHat and I gave you
[12:57] <cwillu>  although that'd be one interesting way of breaking things... :)
[12:57] <funkyHat> hehe
[12:57] <dejx> ok:) i +x it back
[12:57] <anthony> funkyHat: thank you, just for reconfirmation if i do that after the server installation of the base system then it will install the gnome gui correct?
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell skaja about firefox1.5
[12:58] <anthony> ccooke: could you clarify what are these "nice command line tools" that you are referring  to?
[12:58] <ccooke> anthony: sure.
[12:58] <ccooke> anthony: to see what packages a package depends on, you say:
[12:58] <funkyHat> anthony, yes, that will install the gnome gui, synaptic, the login screen(gdm) and the X server, and all dependencies of those packages
[12:58] <ccooke> anthony: apt-cache depends packagename
[12:58] <dejx> ok, lets reboot;)
[12:58] <ccooke> anthony: to see what packages depend on a package, you do:
[12:59] <ccooke> anthony: apt-cache rdepends packagename
[12:59] <funkyHat> anthony, actually, you may rather install gnome-core than gnome
[12:59] <funkyHat> anthony, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg gnome-core gdm synaptic
[12:59] <michael> #ubuntu-fr
[12:59] <funkyHat> the gnome package includes quite a few extras that you may not want, like gnome-office
[01:00] <kuja> Or simply... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop :)
[01:00] <ccooke> anthony: you should also try 'apt-cache show packagename', which gives you all the metadata for packagename
[01:00] <gnomefreak> pssssst ubuntu-desktop ;)
[01:00] <funkyHat|away> kuja, anthony wants a minimal installation
[01:00] <gnomefreak> than he doesnt want gnome :(
[01:00] <ccooke> anthony: Also, if you're going for a minimal build, try installing debfoster.
[01:00] <kuja> funkyHat|away: Not exactly the priviledge on systems like Debian, Ubuntu, RedHat, or all non-Gentoo systems for that mater.
[01:00] <kuja> matter, even.
[01:01] <kuja> "minimal" is possible, but may not be satisfactory.
[01:01] <skaja> dont have a /opt dir
[01:01] <ccooke> anthony: it will allow you to prune things
[01:01] <funkyHat|away> skaja, sudo mkdir /opt?
[01:01] <Fredde> Has anyone here tried cedega for playing games?
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> I give up.  I'm going to bed and hoping my ISP gets its act together before I go online next, or I might just scream, probably at them over the phone.
[01:02] <kuja> Fredde: I have, but I don't like it. I'd rather just use Windows for that.
[01:02] <ccooke> kuja: ... I'd have to dispute that. The debian base system (which ubuntu uses) is a very good eample of a minimal system - it's small but you can a huge number of things with it.
[01:02] <Fredde> kuja: ok
[01:02] <kuja> ccooke: The base system, yes.
[01:02] <ccooke> it's not, say, an embedded system. But if you need one of those, you need to tailor it for your hardware anyway
[01:02] <kuja> ccooke: Once you start installing things, you don't have as much control on dependencies as you'd want, because it's all precompiled.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> all depends on how YOU define satisfactory (when spelled right)
[01:03] <ccooke> kuja: actually, you have all the control you need.
[01:03] <ccooke> kuja: precompilation is a nice thing which works for most people
[01:03] <kuja> Yes, I agree.
[01:03] <ccooke> but you should have deb-src lines, so you can recompile anything you need.
[01:03] <kuja> I'm not a fan of Gentoo, personally, it's really a PITA for my p3 500, and precompiled packages fit perfectly for this desktop.
[01:04] <oga> ok i'm trying to install a VPN link w/ Cisco & ubuntu , i've downloaded the linux-headers but it doesent seem to work i'm afraid I don't actually have the kernel source, which one do i need? uname -r gives "2.6.12-10-386" but synaptic does not seem to have that kernel source
[01:04] <anthony> funkyHat: thank you for your help!; ccooke: so i would be installing debfoster along with the xserver_org, gnome-core, gdm, and synaptic correct?
[01:04] <ccooke> oga: the -386 bit is the architecture
[01:05] <oga> ccooke: i know but there is no source for 2.6.12
[01:05] <test> 
[01:05] <ccooke> oga: the package is linux-source-2.6.12
[01:05] <ndlovu> ompaul: I've checked my logs and the user's crontab just doesn't seem to be running. I've put the output of crontab -e (together with the relevant backup script) here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9443. Is there something wrong with it?
[01:06] <oga> and it was right there all the time, (i'm blind)
[01:06] <ccooke> oga: and it's in main. so, yes. It exists.
[01:06] <oga> i was just looking in the wrong place like a fool
[01:06] <anthony> ccooke: nevermind, i got it, thank you very much for your help also! and wish me luck =)
[01:07] <ndlovu> ompaul: the backup script works fine if I run it from the command line
[01:07] <skaja> how do i configer the firewall
[01:08] <gnomefreak> skaja: use firestarter
[01:08] <skaja> whats that
[01:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell skaja about firestarter
[01:09] <gnomefreak> how important is fileroller? is it safe to delete or is that what apt uses? is there a way to configure it?
[01:09] <ompaul> ndlovu, sorry I was off doing stuff - em how about including the path to mysqldump
[01:10] <gnomefreak> not even gonna ask :(
[01:10] <skaja> tony that did not tell me how to set it up
[01:10] <skaja> wow
[01:11] <skaja> err i ment gnomefreak
[01:12] <kuja> Ah damn. This would have been a good time to test my bot. I've always been waiting for a netsplit. They don't happen as often as they used to on FreeNode... grr
[01:12] <gnomefreak> skaja: its not going to due to everyones system being different but first you really  should install it
[01:12] <ompaul> gnomefreak, file-roller is part of gnome - so I imagine it could be removed, why are you thinking about removing it
[01:12] <skaja> it is instaal apt-get cant find it
[01:13] <gnomefreak> ompaul: when i download a tar it puts it into /tmp even though i direct it somewhere else
[01:13] <gnomefreak> !firestarter
[01:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[01:13] <Agent_bob> if i do an 'ifconfig' and it says nothing.   does that mean that ssh can not work ?
[01:13] <ndlovu> ompaul: hmm.. it seems it was the user path that was missing: 55 * * * * /home/user/.backupscr.sh seems to work. Thanks for the help!
[01:13] <gnomefreak> they didnt add the add:(
[01:14] <gnomefreak> !info firestarter
[01:14] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 384 kB, Installed size: 1904 kB
[01:14] <ompaul> ndlovu, ahh
[01:14] <gnomefreak> skaja: enable universe repo
[01:14] <Agent_bob> anyone know about sshd  that might help me trubble shoot my self ?
[01:15] <andrew_> ubuntu is cool i may even get rin of windoze
[01:15] <skaja> dont know how?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell skaja about universe
[01:16] <gnomefreak> skaja: enable multiverse while your there too
[01:16] <Agent_bob> networking support is where ?
[01:17] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it works perfectly for me, did some tests like created new archives
[01:17] <dooglus> ndlovu: is .backupscr.sh executable?
[01:17] <cwillu> it's sad when you stay up so late that you're actually getting up really early
[01:17] <ompaul> dooglus, he has it solved
[01:17] <dooglus> ok
[01:17] <ndlovu> dooglus: yep. working now
[01:17] <Agent_bob> tty23 [greg$~]  ssh -l greg localhost
[01:17] <Agent_bob> RossH: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ompaul: thats strange are you running dapper or breezy?
[01:18] <skaja> i have 5.10 what is the code name?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> breezy
[01:18] <gnomefreak> skaja: breezy badger is 5.10
[01:18] <andrew_> erm hello
[01:18] <skaja> thanks
[01:18] <dooglus> ndlovu: I wonder why ./.backupscr.sh wasn't working?
[01:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, 5.10 breezy _was_ the name in pre production
[01:19] <Agent_bob> tty23 [greg$~]  ssh -l greg localhost
[01:19] <Agent_bob> RossH: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out
[01:20] <nathanj> my tv card is detected fine but there is nothing @ /dev/video...?
[01:20] !lilo:*! Whoops, lost a small regional hub...affected users, about 350
[01:21] <dooglus> ompaul: check in /etc/lsb-release : "breezy" is still the code name
[01:22] <ompaul> dooglus, it should not be :-/ officially that name dies when it reaches the wire to change it would be a cause of serious pain
[01:22] <Agent_bob> how to get sshd and ssh to play on the same box ?
[01:22] <ompaul> but a good point and well made :)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> where would i find the conf file for fileroller other than gconf in home
[01:24] <dooglus> ompaul: also, http://ubuntu.com/download says: 'The Ubuntu team is proud to announce Ubuntu 5.10 "The Breezy Badger".'
[01:24] <ompaul> dooglus, have a look in this https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder archive for Re: On the subject of naming the Dapper successor month of Feburary
[01:24] <kbrooks> how do i use gdesklets!
[01:24] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: it should be in your menu
[01:24] <dejx> apt-get is very cool, is there any search function
[01:24] <dejx> like
[01:24] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: i launnched it
[01:24] <dejx> apt-get search hihi
[01:24] <Agent_bob> oh crap!   would this line in /etc/security/access.conf have anything to do with it ????    ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection timed out
[01:24] <tsw> dejx: apt-cache search
[01:24] <dejx> and it will found all
[01:24] <dejx> thank!
[01:24] <dejx> :D
[01:24] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: choose what you want (its kind of like a tree)
[01:25] <Agent_bob> -:ALL:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL
[01:25] <kbrooks> gnomefreak: i picked one
[01:25] <dooglus> ompaul: any particular URL?
[01:25] <ompaul> dejx, apt-cache search and when you want to know more apt-cache show
[01:25] <gnomefreak> dejx: apt-cache search packagename
[01:25] <Agent_bob> so if i change that to -:root:ALL EXECPT LOCAL  it should work ?
[01:26] <ompaul> dooglus, look for Jane Silber's post in Febuary https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-February/date.html from the archive link on that page
[01:27] <Agent_bob> ok thanks for all the help guys.  next time i'll just figure it out my self.
[01:28] <dooglus> ompaul: I see.  So they don't intend to call it "breezy" after launch, but did so, and continue to do so on the official site.
[01:28] <dooglus> ompaul: I'm not surprised :)
[01:29] <ompaul> dooglus, :-) no comment
[01:29] <omen> hi
[01:29] <kbrooks> what is missing from ubuntu?
[01:29] <omen> can anyone tell me how to install packages that arent in the SPM?
[01:30] <skaja> lots of stuff
[01:30] <funkyHat> ubotu, tell omen about repositories
[01:30] <gnomefreak> omen: what package?
[01:30] <CarinArr> omen, .deb packages?
[01:30] <kbrooks> skaja: like?
[01:30] <omen> the package for amsn 0.95
[01:31] <mdeboer> hi, i try to run xgl and compiz, following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto , but after run compiz --replace ...., my windows don't have a titlebar anymore. any idea what might be wrong?
[01:31] <kbrooks> omen: not packages
[01:31] <nathanj> how can i look at my current kernel config
[01:31] <kbrooks> i'm talking about
[01:31] <funkyHat> !info amsn
[01:31] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[01:31] <ndlovu> dooglus: sorry, was away... not sure why ./.backupscr.sh didn't work, but I suspect it doesn't use the user's home directory as the current directory. whatever you run must be explicit from the root or in the path
[01:31] <omen> i have version .94
[01:31] <omen> but i want to upgrade to 0.95
[01:31] <xxorg> hello
[01:32] <funkyHat> omen, do you have a .deb file for 0.95?
[01:32] <xxorg> how may I undelete some files from a linux partition?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> omen: its more work than its worth (what ive heard from people) funky no they dont
[01:32] <kbrooks> xxorg: cant.
[01:32] <skaja> ubuntu is a debian distro debian uses 13 cds ubuntu uses 1
[01:32] <shukhrat> hello people i recently install Ubuntu , how can i install MySQL ?
[01:32] <kbrooks> skaja: and?
[01:32] <xxorg> kbrooks: can't I?
[01:32] <omen> its just .package?
[01:32] <kbrooks> shukhrat: which mysql?
[01:33] <CarinArr> xxorg, how didyou delete it?
[01:33] <kbrooks> omen: its not hard to install .packages
[01:33] <gnomefreak> omen: its a .tar.gz iirc
[01:33] <shukhrat> MySQL 4.1 server
[01:33] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, looks like he has an autopackage
[01:33] <kbrooks> omen:
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhh that should be easy enough than
[01:33] <omen> how do i do it?
[01:33] <omen> im rather new
[01:33] <kbrooks> omen: go to autopackage.org
[01:33] <xxorg> I wanted to remove all the file in a directory
[01:34] <xxorg> and I made "rm * /directory/" :D
[01:34] <funkyHat> kbrooks, autopackages auto-install the autopackage manager don't they...
[01:34] <xxorg> so I deleted all the files in my $HOME
[01:34] <kbrooks> omen: the channel for AP talk is #autopackage
[01:34] <macewan> grrr, hate when totem takes over for .rm links in firefox
[01:34] <funkyHat> kbrooks, so no need to visit the site
[01:34] <CarinArr> xxorg, then you can't recover them with any standard tools
[01:34] <CarinArr> maybe be able to find a disk recovery tool or something tho.. no idea
[01:34] <kbrooks> funkyHat: dont understand
[01:34] <kbrooks> funkyHat:
[01:34] <dooglus> ndlovu: well, I made ~/script.sh and that runs when I run "./script.sh" from a crontab
[01:35] <kbrooks> http://www.autopackage.org/docs/howto-install/?PHPSESSID=673c8a527699a9b512da345886d753b7
[01:35] <CarinArr> xxorg, the more you use the drive the less chance you'd have of recovering it tho
[01:35] <funkyHat> omen, uninstall amsn, and then chmod +x packagename.package && sudo ./packagename.package
[01:35] <shukhrat> MySQL administrator doesn't work why ?
[01:35] <macewan> how do i reset it browser to use realplay instead of totem
[01:35] <xxorg> can I install the recovery software on the same partition?
[01:36] <ndlovu> dooglus: there's a cron guide here: http://esm2.imt-mrs.fr/~staffelb/guide_linux/part1/cron.html, which seems to agree with you. Must be something strange in my setup
[01:36] <funkyHat> kbrooks, ahh, that's easier to follow
[01:36] <kbrooks> funkyHat: does he really want to install from CLI? :)
[01:36] <funkyHat> hehehe
[01:36] <omen> thnx funky
[01:36] <funkyHat> omen, look at the link that kbrooks just posted: how to install without using the command line :)
[01:37] <CarinArr> xxorg, well you could but it probably wouldn't be a fantastic idea as you might overwrite it
[01:37] <CarinArr> i.e. overwrite the area where your stuff was before you deleted it
[01:37] <nyet1david> hi
[01:38] <dooglus> ndlovu: of course, it's best to specify the full path anyway.  I was just curious as to why it wasn't working.  what if you add a line to your crontab saying:    * * * * * pwd >> /tmp/pwd
[01:38] <dooglus> ndlovu: then wait a minute and look at /tmp/pwd to see what directory it is using
[01:38] <ndlovu> dooglus: lemme try that
[01:38] <nyet1david> can anyone help me install java in linux
[01:38] <_Rex> Hi
[01:38] <funkyHat> !java
[01:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:38] <ompaul> !java
[01:38] <CarinArr> heh
[01:39] <funkyHat> hehehe
[01:39] <dooglus> ndlovu: don't forget to take the line out again after, or it'll keep writing to /tmp/pwd every minute
[01:39] <shukhrat> HOW INSTALL MYSQL ? PEOPLE HELP
[01:39] <shukhrat> PLEASE
[01:39] <shukhrat> !
[01:39] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, shukhrat
[01:40] <funkyHat> shukhrat, sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[01:40] <funkyHat> !info mysql-server
[01:40] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: please turn the caps off
[01:40] <ubotu> mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB
[01:40] <dooglus> shukhrat: TYPE "SUDO APT-GET INSTALL MYSQL-SERVER" INTO A TERMINAL
[01:40] <funkyHat> dooglus, lol
[01:40] <_Rex> !shipit
[01:40] <ubotu> shipit is, like, For free ubuntu CDs, visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[01:40] <_Rex> !info shipit
[01:41] <ndlovu> dooglus: it is /home/user. maybe it was just a timing issue then that was the problem...
[01:41] <skaja> ubotu tell skaja about universe
[01:41] <dooglus> ndlovu: you mean you wrote the crontab just after it was due to 'go off'?
[01:43] <ndlovu> dooglus: well, just before but it could have been *too* close
[01:43] <mod^> is K8 amd athlon64
[01:43] <dooglus> is there any way for a regular user without sudo access to use anacron to make sure jobs get run once a day?
[01:43] <takedown> !video
[01:43] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, takedown
[01:44] <LaMatita> firestarter block my internet connection. why this?
[01:44] <dooglus> LaMatita: it's a firewall.  that's what firewalls do.
[01:44] <kbrooks> LaMatita: firewals do that
[01:44] <ndlovu> dooglus: I've tried removing the /home/user and it's working as it should now. Actually the way I had it before was just to run the mysqldump command, and that wasn't working. that could have been the path though.
[01:44] <_Rex> What is the time it is necessary to receive free ubuntu CD?
[01:44] <ndlovu> dooglus: run the mysqldump command directly I mean, without a script
[01:45] <LaMatita> ok but firefox doesn't open some pages
[01:45] <Ng> dooglus: crontab -e
[01:45] <dooglus> ndlovu: your PATH is set to /usr/bin:/bin by cron.  mysqldump is in /usr/bin, so that should be OK
[01:46] <dooglus> Ng: that's for cron, not anacron.
[01:46] <skaja> thanks gnomefreak for the help
[01:46] <Ng> dooglus: anacron just runs cron jobs
[01:46] <drgreborn> hi all, just a quick qn, how do i install mingw? thanks you
[01:46] <LaMatita> there's a firestarter guide?
[01:46] <dooglus> Ng: I want to make sure a job runs once a day, even if the machine isn't on 24/7
[01:46] <shukhrat> dear all !!! mysql doesn't want install but anywhere many thanks !!!
[01:47] <shukhrat> i 'll try leter !
[01:47] <dooglus> Ng: I don't think "crontab -e" can solve that problem, but if it can, would you give details please?
[01:47] <Ng> dooglus: I guess you could stick the files in /etc/cron.daily/ and give the user permission to edit them
[01:47] <skaja> ok now how do i start up firestarter
[01:47] <dooglus> Ng: that gives the user complete root access, so I may as well give him sudo access.
[01:47] <dooglus> Ng: I'd rather not do that.
[01:48] <ndlovu> dooglus: that's what I thought also, but it wasn't working with " 55 * * * * mysqldump | bzip2 > backup.sql.bz2"
[01:48] <elkbuntu> skaja, most likely applications -> system tools
[01:48] <mdeboer> is anyone using dapper + gnome + xgl + compiz succesfully here?
[01:48] <elkbuntu> or type the word into a term
[01:48] <ufo> how do i mount ssh with sshfs?
[01:48] <shukhrat> russian ??? any Russian
[01:48] <ufo> in fstab
[01:48] <shukhrat> here ?
[01:49] <dooglus> ndlovu: is your machine up 24/7?
[01:49] <scav> mdeboer: , yeh
[01:49] <LaMatita> how can i set java 5 path?
[01:49] <Ng> dooglus: it's still possible because cron can specify what user to run as, so you could make a new cron.daily for that user, but it does sound like anacron should really be updated to offer user level anacrontabs too
[01:49] <Ng> but mostly anacron sucks, leave your machine on 24/7 ;)
[01:49] <ndlovu> dooglus: no, it's my personal laptop, so it's pretty random
[01:49] <mdeboer> scav: did you follow the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto ?
[01:49] <dooglus> Ng: anacron works well for me, but only as root.
[01:50] <skaja> brb
[01:50] <scav> no, the one on ubuntuforums
[01:50] <mdeboer> scav: i did, but after running compiz, my windows have no decorations
[01:50] <scav> did you install compiz-gnome?
[01:50] <mdeboer> yes
[01:50] <scav> try gnome-window-decorator
[01:50] <scav> before you launch compiz
[01:51] <mdeboer> brb
[01:51] <dooglus> Ng: can you explain further?  I can see that cron allows me to specify which user to run as, but it's anacron which can run things once a day, not cron, so how does that help?
[01:51] <mgdm> Is NetworkManager or something similar in Dapper? I'm trying to configure WPA in Breezy and it's a bit of a pain unless I drop to the CLI, which I hoped we were past :D
[01:51] <shukhrat> is it imposible install in ubuntu rpm files ?
[01:52] <variant> shukhrat: not impossible.. but why would you want to?
[01:52] <dooglus> shukhrat: it's possible, using 'alien', but you should try to find a .deb or build from source.
[01:52] <mdeboer> scav: same problem
[01:52] <Ng> mgdm: yes
[01:52] <IbeeX> Hello can somabady hellp me with ALSA config?
[01:53] <Ng> dooglus: have anacron call su - SOMEUSER run-parts /home/SOMEUSER/cron.daily/   or something like that
[01:54] <mdeboer> IbeeX: what is your problem
[01:54] <IbeeX> I have nforce4 epox motherboard with acl850 chipset
[01:54] <dooglus> Ng: ok, that should work.  thanks
[01:54] <elkbuntu> eeps i forgot how to escape sudo
[01:55] <JThomas> I switched to Linux from the Mac
[01:55] <IbeeX> and I can't get microphone working
[01:55] <JThomas> I highly reccomend that you tell any former mac users about Gdesklets as it allows you to create a very functional dock
[01:55] <mdeboer> Ibeex: with alsamixer?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: exit?
[01:55] <IbeeX> then I tried to install realtek driver for linux and it broke my ALSA
[01:55] <Spooksie> does anyone know Grub here
[01:55] <IbeeX> I tried and alsa mixer is OK microphone is unmuted
[01:55] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, too easy, ty
[01:56] <mdeboer> IbeeX: how?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Spooksie: just ask your question please if they know they will answer
[01:56] <IbeeX> and then I culd't reinstall alsa from packages
[01:57] <Spooksie> having problems with Grub booting OSX, Have put in 'title OSx - root (hd0,0) - chainloader + 1' wont boot
[01:57] <IbeeX> asamixer and scrooll to mic settings and it say on and volume level is all the way up
[01:57] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, try installing xubuntu-desktop atm for some moderate non-fatal fun
[01:57] <mdeboer> IbeeX: yes, that should work
[01:57] <comptonGame> huh
[01:57] <comptonGame> dejx hi :9
[01:57] <dejx> ola
[01:58] <mdeboer> IbeeX: the drivers that come with the kernel should be ok. no need to install them seperately
[01:58] <IbeeX> but it is not working
[01:58] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: i have the beta xfce installed
[01:58] <mdeboer> IbeeX: are you sure it is not a hardware problem?
[01:58] <IbeeX> and then I didn't hade any sound
[01:58] <gnomefreak> im having fileroller issues
[01:58] <IbeeX> on Win XP it is workig
[01:59] <mdeboer> IbeeX: hmm...
[01:59] <flaxi> Now, I just installed ubuntu, and on my gnome desktop I have two icons: hdb1 and hda5 (my NTFS partitions), and when I try to open them, it tells me I don't have permission (for I am not root), so why are they there by default? How can I use those icons to access them?
[01:59] <stu> who just swore - "*** XP"! shame on ya
[01:59] <IbeeX> i tried to reinstall alsa-tools but nothing no sound
[01:59] <IbeeX> :)
[01:59] <mdeboer> IbeeX: i do not know this driver... better ask on the alsa mailing list
[01:59] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, i'm just waiting impatiently until repos finish behaving... i'm not brave enough to try smart update or whatever
[01:59] <zdenal> test
[01:59] <Jonnings> Can someone please tell me why Ubuntu refuses to accept that i use two different wlan settings? It works if i specify the key and remain in the "network settings" thingy, but when i press ok it goes back to my old settings.. sup?
[01:59] <IbeeX> also how do you manualy setup alsi in UBUNTU there is no alsaconfig ??
[02:00] <mdeboer> gotta go...
[02:00] <IbeeX> bye
[02:00] <Spooksie> having problems with Grub booting OSX, Have put in 'title OSx - root (hd0,0) - chainloader + 1' wont boot
[02:00] <Dieseldd> irc.freenode.net
[02:00] <pansonic> is there an "AlbumWrap" type programme for ubuntu?
[02:00] <CarinArr> are you sure osx are on hd0,0?
[02:00] <skaja1> why is ssh trying to connect with me
[02:00] <flaxi> Anyone?
[02:00] <Dieseldd> Simple Backup help requested...
[02:00] <Spooksie> CarinArr :
[02:01] <jetscreamer> Spooksie: #grub if you need
[02:01] <Dieseldd> Is simple backup part of the Ubuntu installation?
[02:01] <Spooksie> CarinArr : it was the 1st thing i installed on the hdd
[02:01] <shukhrat> looking for russians
[02:01] <stu> Jonnings - best to set a profile in the network settings with one wlan active and the other deactived - then vice vera. So when you need to switch its just the profile switch and either one card active or other
[02:01] <CarinArr> spooksie, you're probably better off in #grub like jetscreamer says
[02:01] <IdleOne> !ru
[02:01] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[02:01] <Spooksie> no one is talking in grub
[02:02] <gnomefreak> i cant believe you cant change the path in fileroller :(
[02:02] <jetscreamer> Spooksie: just ask, and wait
[02:02] <flaxi> I just installed ubuntu, and on my gnome desktop I have two icons: hdb1 and hda5 (my NTFS partitions), and when I try to open them, it tells me I don't have permission (for I am not root), so why are they there by default? How can I use those icons to access them?
[02:02] <jetscreamer> sometimes you wait for a while
[02:02] <jetscreamer> sometimes not
[02:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Spooksie about grub
[02:02] <gnomefreak> Spooksie: read the pm ubotu sent you
[02:02] <Spooksie> oki, if you installed something fresh on a hdd for the 1st time would that be hd0,0?
[02:02] <dooglus> gnomefreak: what path in fileroller?
[02:02] <jetscreamer> flaxi: ammend your fstab for access
[02:03] <gnomefreak> dooglus: its sent to /tmp i want /home
[02:03] <jetscreamer> Spooksie: that's actually really a trick question
[02:03] <dooglus> gnomefreak: when you extract?  or the temporary file?
[02:03] <jetscreamer> it depends
[02:03] <flaxi> jetscreamer, thank you
[02:03] <Jonnings> stu: "location" = profile? Is it possible then to add an extra wireless connection, even tho i only have 1 wireless card?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> all of them the tar goes there first than when i extract it from cli it stays there
[02:03] <Spooksie> is there any partition viewed in ubuntu? so i can see all the partitions?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> i want it like it used to be when i say save here it saves here
[02:04] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I don't quite get it.  what are you doing exactly?
[02:04] <jetscreamer> cat /proc/partitions, cfdisk, fdisk -l
[02:04] <gnomefreak> dooglus: when i download a tar it saves it in /tmp  i want it saved in /home
[02:05] <stu> Jonnings: ah - thought you meant 2 cards - have you got kubuntu installed or just using gnome?
[02:05] <skaja> is there a way to install lilo?
[02:05] <stu> reason is you could put kwifi on
[02:05] <gnomefreak> dooglus: i dont want fileroller to start automaticlly either
[02:05] <jetscreamer> Spooksie: apt-get install lilo
[02:05] <gnomefreak> skaja: yes
[02:05] <dooglus> gnomefreak: that doesn't sound like a file-roller issue.  file-roller didn't download the file and put it in /tmp did it?
[02:05] <jetscreamer> oops NOOO
[02:05] <Jonnings> stu: i use the stuff that comes with ubuntu 5.10
[02:05] <jetscreamer> that was for whoever
[02:05] <shukhrat> package should be filed - what it is mean ? when i trying install mysql it says package should be filed.
[02:05] <gnomefreak> dooglus: something is regaurdles of where i put to save it to
[02:05] <skaja> i like old school :p
[02:06] <dooglus> gnomefreak: what are you downloading with?
[02:06] <gean> hi all
[02:06] <gnomefreak> ff
[02:06] <Jonnings> stu: i connect to two wireless different network (one at work, one at home). It refuses me to specify a key for the net at work
[02:06] <dooglus> 1.5.0.1?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> yes
[02:06] <Jonnings> stu: if i press Ok, that is
[02:06] <stu> if you go into synaptic and look for kwifi - OR go to ADD/Remove Applications and expand the internet section / system tools < cant remember which you can get kwifi and that'll handle the profiles nicely
[02:06] <Jonnings> im using the net at work atm, so it works nicely
[02:06] <gnomefreak> dooglus: my ff settings for downloads are going to /home but they are not they are going into /tmp
[02:07] <_jason> gnomefreak: isn't their an option if firefox's download prefs?
[02:07] <gean> is there any chance to use some GUI to enlarge my partition (10GB are free now, there will be no windows+wine on this laptop any longar...)
[02:07] <skaja> who wants to see somthing funny
[02:07] <gnomefreak> _jason: its set to /home/gnomefreak
[02:07] <_jason> skaja: in #ubuntu-offtopic, a lot of people :)
[02:07] <_jason> gnomefreak: does firefox just download to /tmp or do they open in fileroller?
[02:07] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I think that's because ff isn't "save"ing the download, it's "open"ing it.
[02:08] <dooglus> gnomefreak: did you tell it to open a .tar file once, and tick "always do this in future"?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> _jason: while its downloading i can open /tmp and see it than fileroller auto opens to extract it and in prefference for fileroller says path /tmp
[02:08] <gean> where can i get some information on partitioning and repartitioning
[02:08] <gnomefreak> dooglus: no i dont think i did
[02:08] <skaja> blocked connections port 445 service microsoft ds
[02:08] <flaxi> jetscreamer, what did you mean by ammend the fstab file? I just quickly read http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html, but cannot find anything about letting me a user access my NTFS drives... I mean, they're there, but im not root, so I can't access them
[02:09] <_jason> gnomefreak: but if you do nothing, does the file open in fileroller by itself when it finishes downloading?
[02:09] <dooglus> gnomefreak: and is this ".tar" or ".tar.gz" or what, the file you're trying to download?
[02:09] <roh> hi
[02:09] <jetscreamer> what is the ubotu factoid for the fstab
[02:09] <gnomefreak> tar.gz
[02:09] <jetscreamer> !fstab
[02:09] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[02:09] <gnomefreak> im in ff prefference and nothing is in the download actions part
[02:09] <flaxi> jetscreamer, they're already configured there
[02:09] <jetscreamer> flaxi: you add umask=000 in the most basic crude form
[02:09] <flaxi> ahhh
[02:10] <flaxi> thank you, that's what I was confused about
[02:10] <jetscreamer> flaxi: man mount search fmask & dmask if you want to get fancy
[02:10] <jetscreamer> see also uid & gid
[02:10] <drgreborn> Just a qn, is there a tutorial on setting up mingw on ubuntu?
[02:11] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: yes it's save here or ask or open d/l manager, or something
[02:11] <h3ax> ..
[02:11] <h3ax> amfg
[02:11] <anthony> ccooke: it worked out perfectly =) i had to  install x-window-system-core though to make things work, i think the problem was with fonts, the xserver kept crashing on boot
[02:11] <gnomefreak> jetscreamer: its set to save in /home/gnomefreak but it wont save it there anything
[02:11] <h3ax> any one with a little time to help meh out ?
[02:12] <_jason> h3ax: just ask :)
[02:12] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: sounds weird, what happens if you have it set to ask every time?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> good question let me try
[02:13] <jetscreamer> use wget :)
[02:13] <h3ax> I got ubuntu running on a VMware as GuestOS, its been starting just fine and running 24/7 also. now i am just getting BlackScreen when laounche procedures are finished... ie when it should show Login screen i just have black screen
[02:13] <h3ax> wow now i just got to get a glimpse of my login screen
[02:14] <h3ax> and it disappeard again tho =/
[02:15] <Howitzer> if i want to remove everything openoffice related, what term do i have to use in 'sudo apt-get remove xxxxxx' ?
[02:16] <jetscreamer> try openoff* ... or apt-cache search then use the lowest common denominator
[02:16] <snowblink> h3ax, click to enter the vm. Sounds like the screen saver might be kicking in.
[02:16] <Tiffany16> is there actually any way to write to an ntfs partition using ubuntu?
[02:17] <jetscreamer> Tiffany16: yes it could be done if you were desperate but you don't really want to
[02:17] <Tiffany16> why is that?
[02:17] <jetscreamer> Tiffany16: use a vfat dmz
[02:17] <jetscreamer> because it only writes to preexisting files atm
[02:17] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I see.  I get the same problem.
[02:17] <jetscreamer> no create
[02:17] <h3ax> snowblink, "click to enter" sorry but what ya mean by that ? its not screen saver couse its not reacting to mouse movement nor key clicks
[02:17] <jetscreamer> and still might hose you so i wouldn't try
[02:17] <jetscreamer> and i do some weird stuff
[02:17] <dooglus> gnomefreak: (well, with .tgz files I do - my web server won't server .tar.gz files for some reason)
[02:17] <Howitzer> wtf
[02:18] <Tiffany16> i see...
[02:18] <snowblink> h3ax, you're running vmware and saying the screen is going black?
[02:18] <Howitzer> when i try that, it wants to remove every language-support Oo
[02:18] <Tiffany16> oh well, ill forget that idea then...
[02:18] <rahul> hello
[02:18] <h3ax> yeah when i reach login procedure
[02:18] <Howitzer> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:18] <Howitzer>   aspell aspell-en aspell-nl dictionaries-common gnome-spell language-support-en language-support-nl mozilla-thunderbird-locale-nl myspell-en-gb
[02:18] <Howitzer>   myspell-en-us
[02:18] <snowblink> h3ax, when I see that happening, it is because nothing is happening in that vm.
[02:18] <Howitzer> oops
[02:18] <Howitzer> sorry
[02:18] <kos> is there any gui vpn client (pptp) ?
[02:18] <mirak> hi
[02:19] <mirak> I don't have the manpages
[02:19] <jetscreamer> Howitzer: me personally, i like dselect's feature that you can highlight a header/title/subsection and preform operations on the entire section
[02:19] <h3ax> Nothing happeninge ?
[02:19] <jetscreamer> try synaptic maybe
[02:19] <h3ax> happening
[02:19] <jetscreamer> the manpages for...
[02:19] <h3ax> well i got a glimpse of the login screen before and then it disappeard
[02:19] <h3ax> again
[02:20] <gnomefreak> im assuming ff should have asked me before downloading it
[02:20] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  what did it download?
[02:20] <jetscreamer> when you tell it to open the d/l manager yeah think so gnomefreak
[02:20] <thng> how do I get a mass storage unit  under ubuntu loaded.  Regarding mp3, the following question arise regarding decoder not found.  Impossible to read the media.
[02:20] <snowblink> h3ax, if you switch to any tty, after some time it will go blank if you do nothing
[02:20] <_jason> gnomefreak: still no luck?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> jetscreamer: it never did it just started
[02:20] <jetscreamer> thng w32codecs maybe
[02:20] <gnomefreak> nope
[02:20] <snowblink> h3ax, how long before your login disappears?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: it doesnt matter what i download
[02:21] <h3ax> well it aint even showing.. i got a glimpse 0.1 sec like and the screen goes blac
[02:21] <h3ax> kk
[02:21] <h3ax> k
[02:21] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: no idea. you could try moving the .mozilla or .ff or whatever in your home dir and start with a clean slate and see what happens
[02:21] <h3ax> but that was the only time i got a glimpse of it
[02:21] <h3ax> ..
[02:21] <h3ax> btw
[02:21] <shukhrat> by all
[02:21] <Zoroaster> is there a way to switch amongst workspaces using only the keyboard?
[02:22] <shukhrat> BYE ALL
[02:22] <jetscreamer> ctrl alt # here
[02:22] <jetscreamer> for desktops
[02:22] <jetscreamer> ymmv
[02:22] <Guardiann> shukhrat bye :)
[02:22] <jetscreamer> and i don't mean f#
[02:22] <Howitzer> can it hurt to remove language-support-en x language-support-nl?
[02:22] <h3ax> its right after bootup is done and its loading in Loginscreen
[02:22] <_jason> Zoroaster: you can set it to whatever you want in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts
[02:22] <jetscreamer> not if you don't use that language
[02:22] <Zoroaster> _jason, thanks for the help
[02:22] <derek_> Hi!
[02:23] <cwillu> (left ctrl and alt)
[02:23] <h3ax> its not cause i am not "useing" it or makeing movements on the screen
[02:23] <derek_> Can someone please help me run a .java file on my Ubuntu system?
[02:23] <Tiffany16> is it possible to have multiple wallpapers for various virtual workspaces in ubuntu?
[02:23] <alynx> h3ax: You do get the text mode to work?
[02:23] <jetscreamer> Tiffany16: yes
[02:23] <h3ax> yeah i just booted recovery mode
[02:23] <Tiffany16> how?
[02:23] <h3ax> i am in root now
[02:23] <jetscreamer> Tiffany16: i just know it can be easily set up, i never wanted to though
[02:24] <IdleOne> !tell derek_  about java
[02:24] <Tiffany16> oh well
[02:24] <ufo> eny good synaptics touchpad conf util?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> should i get rid of the .mozilla or open .mozilla and get rid of firefox?
[02:24] <alynx> h3ax: i had a simmillar problem once. Had to edit my xorg.conf and change my grapichs driver
[02:24] <ccooke> Zoroaster: There's a default keyboard shortcut of ctrl-alt-left and ctrl-alt-right, too
[02:24] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: just mv it, don't delete it, you might want it back
[02:24] <derek_> IdleOne, I've installed the java runtime using a .deb file ..it works in my firefox browser.. isn't that enough to run a .java file?
[02:24] <h3ax> alynx, ok. what did you have to do the the Conf ?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> jetscreamer: where am i mv it to?
[02:25] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: and i'd mv the .mozilla to like .moz-bckup or something
[02:25] <jetscreamer> just rename it
[02:25] <Zoroaster> ccooke, this is what I was looking for, perfect, thanks, it works good
[02:25] <jetscreamer> mv==rename or move
[02:25] <pudland> !ubotu
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[02:25] <MetaMorfoziS> !directrendering
[02:25] <alynx> i have a gforce 6600GT and had to change the "driver" section from nv to nvidia , had to sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx first though
[02:25] <ubotu> MetaMorfoziS: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:25] <alynx> h3ax: i have a gforce 6600GT and had to change the "driver" section from nv to nvidia , had to sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx first though
[02:25] <h3ax> hmm i got the same card
[02:26] <chmod775> Folks I have a problem
[02:26] <gnomefreak> jetscreamer:  so i want to type mv rename .mozilla .moz-bckup?  that right command?
[02:26] <alynx> h3ax: well :) i think thats the problem
[02:26] <Howitzer> yeeha
[02:26] <Howitzer> no more openoffice!
[02:26] <chmod775> I have wireless netgear router
[02:26] <pudland> !dri
[02:26] <ubotu> pudland: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:26] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: mv .mozilla .moz-bckup
[02:26] <Tiffany16> ouch
[02:26] <kameron> gnomefreak, mv .mozille .mozbackup
[02:26] <Howitzer> Abiword FTW!
[02:26] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[02:26] <chmod775> What is happening is that I am browsing on my neighbours connection
[02:26] <chmod775> instead of mine
[02:26] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: spell it right though eh, unlike me
[02:27] <h3ax> sec ima try that out.. i just med Xorg in root and i shows me a white and black Dotted screen (like when the TV aint tuned on a usable frequenzy)
[02:27] <ccooke> Zoroaster: you can also assign shortcuts in the keyboard shortcuts panel - The unassigned ones are for shifting directly to a numbered desktop and for moving "up" a desktop (for when you don't have all desktops in a line)
[02:27] <kameron> gnomefreak, 'mv' moves files, but if the last string isn't a destination, it just renames it to that, or moves it and renames it
[02:27] <chmod775> I use a wirless netgear router but in network-admin SMC wireless device is detected
[02:27] <alynx> h3ax: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and then edit your xorg.conf and replace nv with nvidia. Then restart x
[02:27] <chmod775> what should I do to configure my network ?
[02:27] <chmod775> I am kinda confused
[02:27] <alynx> h3ax: then tell me how it goes
[02:27] <pontusen> chmod775,  try net-setup eth0 ?
[02:27] <h3ax> sure will
[02:27] <gnomefreak> ok its renamed
[02:27] <mikul> what shall i change to be able to use my soundcard for more then just one program at the same time?
[02:28] <funkyHat> alynx, rather than editing xorg.conf he should run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:28] <jetscreamer> now it's a virgin
[02:28] <gnomefreak> so just try again see if it helped?
[02:28] <jetscreamer> yeah.. but you'd still have to change the d/l prefs... iirc it's set by default to go to the desktop gnomefreak
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ok yeah i figured that
[02:29] <alynx> funkyHat: maybe so , but i got it to work that way , so thats why I was saying it. If your method works better , thats fine
[02:29] <h3ax> funkyHat, so apt-get install nivida-glx
[02:29] <h3ax> and thne sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:29] <chmod775> ok pontusen
[02:30] <funkyHat> yeah, that configures xorg.conf for the nvidia driver
[02:30] <skaja> does debian/ubuntu support pcie?
[02:30] <erez> mikul:  i think that you have to install ALSA, try looking for the howto in the ubuntuforums.
[02:30] <chmod775> pontusen, net-setup ????
[02:30] <jetscreamer> yes skaja
[02:30] <mikul> okej
[02:30] <pontusen> funkyHat,  and might screw much other things up, iirc.
[02:30] <mikul> erez, thx, will try
[02:30] <jetscreamer> alsa is the default isn't it
[02:30] <pontusen> chmod775,  yes, might be needed to install something from the repos first, tho
[02:30] <funkyHat> pontusen, I haven't heard about it screqing anything up...
[02:30] <chmod775> what package ?
[02:30] <funkyHat> *screwing
[02:31] <Q_Continuum> Haven't checked in awhile - any benefit to running AMD64 versus i386?
[02:31] <h3ax> well Downloading and isntalling now lets see how it works
[02:31] <h3ax> =)
[02:31] <pontusen> funkyHat,  was a long time ago, my xorg.conf went screwed up, changed it manually later. don't know if it's good now :)
[02:31] <jetscreamer> no, in fact you should get an 8088 processor...
[02:31] <alynx> h3ax: nice
[02:31] <alynx> i even play world of warcraft in Linux now :)
[02:32] <h3ax> ehhehe
[02:32] <gnomefreak> i still have the .mozilla dir in home and now also the new one
[02:32] <funkyHat> alynx, with cedega?
[02:32] <chmod775> pontusen, which package
[02:32] <chmod775>  ?
[02:32] <alynx> funkyHat: nope , patched wine
[02:32] <anthony> funkyHat: i did the clean install just like the way you told me to and it worked out perfect! (well i had to install x-window-system-core, i think it's the problem w/ xfonts-base not installed that had me crashing when trying to entering) anyways, now when i gnome loads i get an error message about "OAFIID: GNOME_Panel_WirelessApplet" not found, i think it's the problem with me not installing certain packages, do you know
[02:32] <anthony> how to fix this?
[02:32] <pontusen> chmod775,  no clue :(
[02:32] <h3ax> ...
[02:32] <h3ax> freaky
[02:33] <skaja> yeah time to get drunk ;-p
[02:33] <h3ax> " NVRM: no NVIDIA graphics adapter found! "
[02:33] <MetaMorfoziS> can anybody spend me a little time to help me? I want toenable direct rendering on this notebook. I know my chipset, i'm use ubuntu 5.10 and KDE 3.5.1
[02:33] <chmod775> folks can u help me ?
[02:33] <desousa2> hi there
[02:34] <desousa2> how can i send pics from mi cell fone by bluetooth?
[02:34] <gean> is there any chance to use some GUI to enlarge my partition (10GB are free now, there will be no windows+wine on this laptop any longer...) Explicitly : my hda6 (/dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 )  ~30GB, should glue to the last 10GB on the hd, do i need to format first the last 10GB in ext3 ? can i use gparted or so ??
[02:34] <alynx> funkyHat: wine 0.9.1 with the wowfices_patch is working just great if you turn off vertical sync and trilinnear filtering
[02:34] <pontusen> gean,  GUIs won't do nothing...
[02:34] <alynx> wowfixes**
[02:34] <h3ax> gotta finde default dir for Vmware and try to run the tool-box they include in VMware workstation see if it can fix something
[02:35] <Tomcat_> gean: Try gparted
[02:35] <funkyHat> h3ax, what is your output from lspci|grep nVidia? (don't paste in here if it's more than a couple of lines)
[02:35] <funkyHat> h3ax, you're running linux inside VMware?
[02:35] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: yeah it made a new one
[02:35] <gean> Tomcat_ : thanks , i'll try it!
[02:36] <gnomefreak> well i cant see where its downloading it to yet i have the /tmp open waiting for the tar to show up
[02:36] <fenn> ok 3 minutes into my new ubuntu install and i screwed it up.. I edited /etc/sudoers with nano and broke it.. how to fix sudoers without root or using 'sudo'?
[02:36] <luisito> hello, hello
[02:36] <desousa2> anyone can help me?
[02:36] <funkyHat> h3ax, if you're trying to install nVidia drivers on a guest operating system, there's no point, the VMware graphics card isn't an nVidia one
[02:36] <oscar> fenn, restart your computer and go into recovery mode and change it back to how it was ebfore
[02:36] <gnomefreak> still saving it in wrong place :(
[02:37] <skaja> people are trying to ping me to death :-(
[02:37] <pontusen> skaja,  ping 'em back ;)
[02:37] <h3ax> gawd i forgot what dir VMware is installed in
[02:37] <funkyHat> PING
[02:37] <funkyHat> h3ax, is linux the guest OS or host?
[02:37] <h3ax> Guest
[02:38] <funkyHat> h3ax, you can't use nVidia drivers in a guest OS
[02:38] <skaja> your evil
[02:38] <Q_Continuum> any benefits to running the AMD64 build of Ubuntu, that a normal desktop could take advantage of? (4GB motherboard limit, 1CPU, etc)
[02:38] <h3ax> no i found that out hehe
[02:38] <funkyHat> h3ax, VMware will probably be: C:\Program Files\VMware\ won't it?
[02:38] <pudland> ubotu tell pudland about samba
[02:39] <desousa2> how can i work with my bluetoth
[02:39] <dooglus> jetscreamer: can you download .tar.gz files without having them saved to /tmp?
[02:39] <chmod775> folks can anyone help me with the wireless connection issue
[02:39] <chmod775> ?
[02:39] <h3ax> not in win.. but in the *nix
[02:40] <funkyHat> anthony, I don't know how to fix that, sorry, can anyone else help out here?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> Q_Continuum: not really its faster but you lose alot of apps running 64bit
[02:41] <Q_Continuum> yeah, without running a 32-bit chroot, anyway
[02:41] <Tiffany16> anybody know how to look at the background processes in the terminal?
[02:41] <pontusen> you don't have to lose anything with 64bits
[02:41] <Howitzer> is gnomebaker kind of equal to k3b?
[02:41] <funkyHat> Problems with missing packages (we think) causing gnome-panel to complain about the wireless applet
[02:41] <gnomefreak> i would file bug but problem with that is im not sure where the bug is yet :(
[02:41] <pontusen> Howitzer,  yes. it will prolly do what you want to do.
[02:41] <fenn> oscar: thank ye sir
[02:41] <funkyHat> Howitzer, kind of, but k3b is better
[02:42] <mr_lampe> Howitzer, gnomebaker has less features
[02:42] <Q_Continuum> pontusen, that's why I said 'without running a 32-bit chroot' :D
[02:42] <pontusen> Q_Continuum,  you won't have any real pros using amd64, but you can have a 32bits emulator, so all proggies will work anyway.
[02:42] <Tomcat_> Tiffany16: "ps"
[02:42] <Tiffany16> isnt that all the processes?
[02:42] <pontusen> Q_Continuum,  didn't see that part, was responding to to gnomefreak.
[02:42] <Q_Continuum> Okay, still no benefits.
[02:42] <Q_Continuum> then I'll stick with the i386 build.
[02:42] <oscar> np
[02:42] <pontusen> nope.
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Q_Continuum: no not really
[02:44] <LinuxJones> Morning all
[02:44] <callan_> Maybe someone can help me here, I installed the xfce4 package and it worked fine, then I figured I'd install the xubuntu desktop package too and now i can't right click on the desktop for the menu, and the background is always brown, I can't change it.
[02:45] <dooglus> gnomefreak: could you try these examples please?  http://fsphost.com/dooglus/tmp/
[02:45] <gnomefreak> 'yes
[02:45] <jetscreamer> dooglus: yes
[02:45] <dooglus> jetscreamer: if you left-click on the .tgz file on http://fsphost.com/dooglus/tmp/ , does it ask whether to open or save?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> dooglus: it opened in fileroller and its in the /tmp
[02:46] <IdleOne> how do I remove the kubuntu-desktop and everything it installed?
[02:46] <Absenth> is there an easy way to add the "terminal" link to the standard desktop right click in breezy (so it reacts like hoary did?)
[02:46] <gnomefreak> dooglus: that was the tar.gz since that is what im working with
[02:47] <dooglus> gnomefreak: right.  I see the same.  you're using dapper, right?
[02:47] <jetscreamer> dooglus: i can't test atm, but yes my stuff functions as i like it to. yes it wold ask me where to save it.  gnomefreak, are you using the default open it with fileroller? use the bottom radio button
[02:47] <gnomefreak> dooglus: yes
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> Absenth: you can download extentions to nautilus, but i cant help more then that
[02:47] <desousa2> some one help me with bluetooth
[02:47] <desousa2> ?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> dooglus: is that a dapper issue or a ff issue so i know where to file the bug?
[02:47] <dooglus> jetscreamer: I just made a new firefox profile and it still doesn't prompt.  maybe it's a dapper thing?  are you using dapper?
[02:48] <h3ax> hwo is it you scroll in the console when you make "dir"
[02:48] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, how are you finding dapper?
[02:48] <jetscreamer> h3ax: shift+pgup/dn, or do ls |less
[02:48] <funkyHat> And anyone else :)
[02:48] <gnomefreak> funkyHat: other than this issue and alot of depends issues it works well
[02:48] <pontusen> Absenth,  nautilus-open-terminal is the proggie you're looking for
[02:48] <pontusen> Absenth,  http://manny.cluecoder.org/packages/nautilus-open-terminal/
[02:48] <jetscreamer> dooglus: i use a lot of different things. not tried dapper.
[02:48] <Absenth> Many thanks.
[02:49] <funkyHat> h3ax, ls | less (or dir | less, dir is just another name for ls)
[02:49] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I would guess this is a problem with the firefox in dapper then.
[02:49] <babo> hi ... guys I have nvidia driver issues, my X seems to work every now and again. At the moment it's telling me that my kernel modules version is different to my x module driver version. I have a geforce6 nvidia with the new PCI express (or whatever) and it's taken me forever to get it working. I had to install some packages from the dapper repository ... I'd really like to just be able to use my computer without having to jump through these hoops. I mean all I
[02:49] <babo> want is X ... I don' even play games or any of that stuff
[02:49] <dooglus> gnomefreak: you can give that http://fsphost.com/dooglus/tmp/ URL if you want to give an example URL
[02:49] <dooglus> gnomefreak: (in the bug report, I mean)
[02:49] <jetscreamer> babo: use the nv driver then if it supports your card
[02:49] <gnomefreak> ok and i should file it on launchpad i guess
[02:49] <desousa2> i would thanx to anyone that
[02:50] <desousa2> help me using BLUETOTH
[02:50] <desousa2> TOOTH
[02:50] <FFIXXX> hi
[02:50] <funkyHat> babo, I don't know but you may find that doing a complete upgrade to dapper will fix the issues you have
[02:50] <dooglus> gnomefreak: yes.
[02:50] <babo> jetscreamer: ok  - so I just go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nvidia" to 'nv' right ?
[02:50] <FFIXXX> just a small question for trying out compiz/xgl would it be better to take ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ok heading that way now
[02:50] <funkyHat> babo, I don't think it's 100% stable but kernel module versions will match at least
[02:51] <pontusen> babo,  then you won't have the hardware accel
[02:51] <jackepc> nas
[02:51] <_jason> gnomefreak: do other files ask you what to do?
[02:51] <babo> funkyHat: hmmm ... I'm already a part-time linux repairman as it is. I don't trust the upgrade to dapper to be honest ...
[02:51] <babo> thanks for your help though :-)
[02:52] <jackepc> tengo adsl atraves de un router y otra que pillo inalambricamente de mi vecino. Podria fundir el ancho de banda de las dos?
[02:52] <IdleOne> I did sudo apt- --purge remove kubuntu-desktop but I still have a bunch of kde apps in my menu. how do I get completly rid of them?
[02:52] <jetscreamer> babo: if you hand edit the file, note line # 17
[02:52] <IdleOne> apt-get *
[02:52] <_jason> gnomefreak: about:config and filter for 'helper', someone had a similar problem yesterday
[02:53] <jetscreamer> you put about:config in the addressbar btw gnomefreak, if you didn't know
[02:53] <babo> jetscreamer: jetscreamer: line 17 is commented out code on my conf file
[02:53] <luisito> jackepc: please use #ubuntu-es for spanish.
[02:53] <jetscreamer> babo: it should say do this md5 thing if you hand edit it
[02:54] <jackepc> ok. sorry
[02:54] <babo> pontusen: I don't really care about the excel, as long as it actually works without blotting out my screen and leaving carets all over the place like it did before I'd be happy
[02:54] <jetscreamer> babo: if you want to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you have to do that md5sum thing
[02:54] <jetscreamer> after you hand edit it
[02:54] <pontusen> babo,  then use nv for the default. yes
[02:54] <Absenth> how do I convince glxgears to output framerate?
[02:54] <babo> jetscreamer: what md5 thing ?
[02:54] <jetscreamer> Absenth: should show up in the xterm you started it from
[02:55] <jetscreamer> babo: should be line 17
[02:55] <jetscreamer> that md5sum thing
[02:55] <Absenth> should being the important word there.  alright, thanks.
[02:55] <jetscreamer> yes should is good
[02:55] <h3ax> arg damnit
[02:55] <jetscreamer> :)
[02:56] <IdleOne> are apt-get and aptitude seperate utilities?
[02:56] <jetscreamer> yes
[02:56] <IdleOne> whats the difference?
[02:56] <anthony> how do i shut down xserver, return to the CLI?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> what should i use for package name?
[02:56] <pontusen> anthony,  ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:56] <anthony> pontusen: thanks
[02:56] <pontusen> anthony,  or ctrl-alt-F1
[02:56] <gnomefreak> its not letting firefox be used
[02:56] <jetscreamer> don't ask me, or i'll tell you aptitude sucks, which probably isn't true anymore
[02:57] <_jason> gnomefreak: did you see my comment above about about:config?
[02:57] <jetscreamer> to shut it down you want sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[02:57] <h3ax> ... /kills my self
[02:57] <gnomefreak> ok ty _jason  ill look at it
[02:58] <skaja> ok just installed lilo now what do i do
[02:58] <Very> hi all..
[02:58] <babo> jetscreamer: line 17 says  # run this command
[02:58] <forest> hi all
[02:58] <jetscreamer> run liloconfig
[02:58] <Very> hi forest..
[02:58] <jetscreamer> babo: and it doesn't tell you which command?
[02:58] <pontusen> lilo is deprecated
[02:58] <babo> How do I change to nv drivers anyone ?
[02:58] <IdleOne> I did sudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop but I still have a bunch of kde apps in my menu. how do I get completly rid of them?
[02:58] <Batona> hi
[02:58] <pontusen> babo,  you wrote how yourself earlier
[02:58] <jetscreamer> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , babo
[02:58] <_jason> IdleOne: get rid of libqt3-mt, that should take all things kde with it
[02:59] <Very> #ubuntu-it
[02:59] <[ic] Adam> n e 1 know how to install ubuntu?? :|
[02:59] <jetscreamer> apt-get remove --purge kde*
[02:59] <babo> jetscreamer: I tried that but it started asking me what resolution I needed ... was that a good thing ?
[02:59] <_jason> [ic] Adam: do you have an install disk?
[02:59] <Howitzer> is it possible to see a list of deamons currently running on my system, seeing for what they are, and remove them if not needed(i'm never going to use  a printer on this thing, so i don't want cups and so on)
[02:59] <skaja> ERROR: install-mbr failed! Your system may not be bootable.
[02:59] <forest> where i find polish room about ubunt?
[02:59] <_jason> !pl
[02:59] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[02:59] <Howitzer> forest, ubuntu.pl
[02:59] <jetscreamer> babo: yes... choose medium not advanced if you don't know the horiz&vert rates
[02:59] <babo> pontusen: that's the only bit I remember ... I know there were other bits as well though ... I think that there was two things that I had to do ....
[03:00] <forest> thanks
[03:00] <blacking> hello all
[03:00] <pontusen> babo,  either restart X, or... to be followed
[03:00] <babo> jetscreamer: cool, I'll try that now
[03:00] <blacking> please dapper include support for apple wi-fi drivers??
[03:00] <skaja> how do i fix the lilo error
[03:00] <[ic] Adam> i got an install disk yes!
[03:00] <jetscreamer> skaja: what is the lilo error
[03:00] <skaja> ERROR: install-mbr failed! Your system may not be bootable.
[03:00] <_jason> [ic] Adam: you just boot from the install disk, do you know how?
[03:01] <LinuxJones> blacking: what kind of wireless card do you have ?
[03:01] <pontusen> babo,  opengl-update  xorg-x11
[03:01] <[ic] Adam> ok what do i have to do?
[03:01] <[ic] Adam> i got a disk
[03:01] <blacking> a dungle wl-113 sitecomm
[03:01] <[ic] Adam> i put files from .rar to the disk?
[03:01] <pontusen> [ic] Adam,  reboot, install
[03:01] <gnomefreak> _jason: so just put helper where it says filter? or am i changing an exsiting filter?
[03:01] <[ic] Adam> pontusen
[03:02] <jetscreamer> skaja: you might need to edit and go over the /etc/lilo.conf make sure the boot= line is correct
[03:02] <blacking> and apple airport cards
[03:02] <IdleOne> remove --purge package isnt the same as --purge remove?
[03:02] <[ic] Adam> I put Files onto CD and put it in and reboot?
[03:02] <pontusen> [ic] Adam,  make sure it is bootable, make sure cd-rom comes first in order when you reboot, then reboot :)
[03:02] <_jason> gnomefreak: the browser.helperApps.* ones, what is their value?  (there are 3)
[03:02] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: i dont think --purge remove works
[03:02] <[ic] Adam> first in order
[03:02] <[ic] Adam> how i do that?
[03:02] <[ic] Adam> im on windows atm
[03:02] <_jason> [ic] Adam: you downloaded a .iso right?
[03:03] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  apperently not ()
[03:03] <[ic] Adam> ya
[03:03] <[ic] Adam> yes jason
[03:03] <_jason> IdleOne: you try what I said above? kubuntu-desktop is a meta package so that's all that gets removed
[03:03] <[ic] Adam> downloaded a .iso
[03:03] <gnomefreak> _jason: i have 4 of them and none state the value ones true ones false and no value on the other 2
[03:03] <_jason> !iso
[03:03] <ubotu> iso is probably download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[03:04] <h3ax> arg.. would i help i clensed my ubuntu from X and reinstalled it ?
[03:04] <babo> jetscreamer: it asks me which video-mode I want ?
[03:04] <_jason> [ic] Adam: see the link ubotu just pasted ^ about burning
[03:04] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: --purge isnt a command its an argument
[03:04] <_jason> gnomefreak: which one is true?
[03:04] <babo> jetscreamer: which video mode do I want ?
[03:04] <[ic] Adam> ok
[03:04] <desousa2> anyone that can help me?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> broswer.helper.defaultnoaskopenfile
[03:05] <_jason> desousa2: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[03:05] <deelaz> how to install ipv6 fow ubuntu linux ?
[03:05] <desousa2> :(
[03:05] <desousa2> my problem is
[03:05] <jetscreamer> babo: ahhhhhh
[03:05] <_jason> gnomefreak: change it to false
[03:05] <desousa2> i can send thing from my pc
[03:05] <gnomefreak> ok brb
[03:05] <desousa2> to my cell
[03:05] <deelaz> how to install ipv6 fow ubuntu linux ?
[03:05] <desousa2> but when i tried
[03:05] <nowbee> hi y'all
[03:05] <jetscreamer> babo you forgot to mention that this was after you installed lilo but now you seem to be doing the liloconfig
[03:05] <_jason> !enter
[03:05] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:05] <babo> pontusen: opengl-update : command not foudn
[03:05] <deelaz> how to install ipv6 for ubuntu linux ?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> ok double click made it false (restarting ff now :) let see what happens
[03:06] <desousa2> to send from my cell to pc it said connection impossible ( bluetooth)
[03:06] <nowbee> I am new to linux
[03:06] <jetscreamer> babo: go with vga=normal unless you know
[03:06] <jetscreamer> know better
[03:06] <Dr_J> hey guys.. will ubuntu go above 1024x768? because thats the highest res im able to select.  does it just think thats the max my lcd can take or is that a limit of the OS?
[03:06] <deelaz> how to install ipv6 for ubuntu linux ? plz help
[03:07] <nowbee> and have been trying  to install an application, but I am having some problems
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Dr_J: your lcd
[03:07] <babo> jetscreamer: so where in the config file do I enter that ? will it work properly with my screen ? should I delete the devices ... nvidia bit ?
[03:07] <jetscreamer> Dr_J: no it's just not configured properly
[03:07] <Murrlin> DrJ: I can go higher. not sure about your lcd handling it though?
[03:07] <babo> jetscreamer: why are nvidia drivers so difficult to configure on linux ?
[03:07] <jetscreamer> babo: what'
[03:07] <jetscreamer> wait
[03:07] <gnomefreak> _jason:  you are the man!!!!!!!!!!
[03:07] <MetaMorfoziS>  *** CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG needs to be enabled in the kernel.  Stop.
[03:07] <Dr_J> ok just checking its possible thanks
[03:07] <babo> jetscreamer: sorry
[03:07] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i enable this in kernel?
[03:07] <nowbee> can someone point me towards something called gtk+ development headers?
[03:08] <h3ax> deelaz, open Synaptic packeage management, and search for IPV6 its there
[03:08] <_jason> gnomefreak: you should see if other people using dapper have that behavior too and file a bug
[03:08] <jetscreamer> ah. ok babo select the video modes you want. (ignore when i said vga=normal)
[03:08] <jetscreamer> oops wrong guy
[03:08] <h3ax> lul
[03:08] <gnomefreak> _jason: i filed one im gonna throw the fix in there :)
[03:08] <MetaMorfoziS>  *** CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG needs to be enabled in the kernel.  Stop. <-- how can i enable this?
[03:08] <jetscreamer> compile a kernel
[03:09] <MetaMorfoziS> how
[03:09] <dooglus> gnomefreak: still there?
[03:09] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me in this
[03:09] <jetscreamer> babo: make sure the ones you want have a *
[03:09] <gnomefreak> dooglus: im here
[03:09] <gnomefreak> dooglus: its fixed :)
[03:09] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i compile a kernel?
[03:09] <_jason> gnomefreak: ok, cool
[03:09] <jetscreamer> MetaMorfoziS: that's more than i want to get into atm :(
[03:09] <babo> jetscreamer: I did, but then it just said that I tried to overwrite something important and then it quit ... besides, I don't know what video modes I want ... anything that works would do fine
[03:09] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[03:10] <jetscreamer> babo: now that is why you pay attention to line 17
[03:10] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I think the problem was to do with bad content-type headers.
[03:10] <nowbee> i've been go
[03:10] <dooglus> gnomefreak: if the web server sends the right headers, firefox behaves right.
[03:10] <jetscreamer> babo one second
[03:10] <babo> jetscreamer: oh wait a minute - it sent out a warning, not an error ... I'll try to restart x
[03:10] <gnomefreak> dooglus: i changed a value in about:config and its all fixed :)
[03:10] <jetscreamer> babo ah ok. this line, btw:  md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[03:11] <blacking> does anyone how to install a minimal ubuntu inside a pen drive usb??
[03:11] <nowbee> i've been going crazy trying to find the gtk+ development headers it asks  for when i try to compile a tar
[03:11] <nowbee> does none know where I might find it?
[03:11] <blacking> i'll work around a PPC filesystem
[03:11] <jetscreamer> nowbee apt-cache search gtk | grep -i dev maybe
[03:12] <nowbee> I'll try it  :)
[03:12] <dooglus> what is browser.helperApps.defaultNoAsk.openFile set to in breezy?
[03:13] <IdleOne> dooog set to true or 1
[03:13] <IdleOne> dooglus: ^
[03:13] <babo> jetscreamer: ok, I'm running between two computers here so there's a bit of time lag
[03:13] <_jason> dooglus: doesn't exist for me in ff1.5, might be an addon from the ubuntu team?
[03:14] <_jason> or maybe different compile options
[03:14] <dooglus> _jason: right; I meant in the default breezy install.
[03:14] <babo> jetscreamer: from the logs the situation seems to be like this ... it can't load the glx module, it can't load the kernel module and the kernel module is a different version to the glx module ...
[03:14] <babo> jetscreamer: wait a sec I'll try the above
[03:15] <jetscreamer> babo: that should be what you get from using nvidia not nv.
[03:15] <La_PaRCa> I am having some trouble here. For some reason firefox is opening every file I try to download!
[03:15] <jetscreamer> LOL
[03:15] <_jason> anyone using firefox1.07 in breezy want to check what the value of browser.helperApps.defaultNoAsk.openFile is in about:config (enter it in your address bar for firefox)
[03:15] <gnomefreak> dooglus: yeah i think its the way it was packaged for dapper that that was valued at false  (found out you cant edit bugs you post :()
[03:15] <babo> jetscreamer: wait a minute ... why am I md5suming xorg.conf ?
[03:15] <jetscreamer> La_PaRCa: do what _jason said
[03:16] <babo> jetscreamer: ya ... I switched back
[03:16] <dooglus> gnomefreak: according to IdleOne, it's the same in breezy...
[03:16] <_jason> La_PaRCa: are you using dapper?
[03:16] <jetscreamer> babo: you do that so dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg actually overwrites your conf
[03:16] <gnomefreak> its set to flase in breezy?
[03:16] <La_PaRCa> _jason, yup
[03:16] <gnomefreak> false even
[03:16] <jetscreamer> babo: if it didn't
[03:16] <dooglus> gnomefreak: (and it was set to 'true', not 'false')
[03:16] <gnomefreak> dooglus: default in dapper its set to false
[03:16] <gnomefreak> atleast in mine
[03:17] <dooglus> gnomefreak: are you talking about browser.helperApps.defaultNoAsk.openFile ?
[03:17] <savon> my movies are playing to fast and the date & time time is going to fast whats wrong?
[03:17] <samoura>  http://lithmaster.free.fr/content/images/desktop/gentoo3.jpeg          <- hmmm  does it work on ubuntu or kubuntu :P?
[03:17] <La_PaRCa> _jason, its set to true
[03:17] <cfabbri> why does the remote desktop lagging and how do i fix it?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> dooglus: yes in dapper it was set to false and changing it to true fixes it
[03:17] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it's called "no ask", and it's set to "true" - "true" means "don't ask"...
[03:17] <gnomefreak> oops yeah
[03:17] <dooglus> gnomefreak: look again.  I think you're confused.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> sorry
[03:18] <dooglus> flags with "no" in their name are hardly ever not a bad idea.
[03:18] <La_PaRCa> gnomefreak, should I change that key to false?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> true was default and setting it to false fixed it great now i gotta check bug make sure i typed it right :(
[03:19] <jetscreamer> ! ff-save-err is <reply> check what the value of browser.helperApps.defaultNoAsk.openFile is in about:config (enter it in your address bar for firefox)
[03:19] <ubotu> jetscreamer: okay
[03:19] <gnomefreak> La_PaRCa: yes i would
[03:19] <gnomefreak> La_PaRCa: just double click it
[03:19] <dooglus> gnomefreak: you typed it wrong in the bug too :(
[03:19] <gnomefreak> oh great
[03:20] <jetscreamer> do a followup report
[03:20] <DigitalGheko> hi all
[03:20] <gnomefreak> can i get rid of that bug and re submit it?
[03:20] <jetscreamer> and say ;oopsies!;
[03:20] <dooglus> gnomefreak: also, it's raised in meta-gnome2 instead of firefox?
[03:20] <jetscreamer> no you can post an addendum
[03:20] <gnomefreak> dooglus: cant use firefox
[03:20] <gnomefreak> cant use ff1.5 firefox in dapper dapper none of them
[03:20] <variant> gnomefreak: i can..
[03:21] <samoura> this are the best to download for those who dont know what to do with linux ;D
[03:21] <feistel> hi
[03:21] <samoura> xmms
[03:21] <samoura> screen
[03:21] <feistel> I need help with debconf
[03:21] <samoura> vnc
[03:21] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I changed it to 'firefox' for you
[03:21] <samoura> sawfish
[03:21] <dooglus> gnomefreak: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33038
[03:21] <samoura> icewm
[03:21] <feistel> I need help of a advanced ubuntu user
[03:21] <samoura> mozilla
[03:21] <samoura> xchat
[03:21] <gnomefreak> how?
[03:21] <samoura> bash
[03:21] <samoura> ssh
[03:21] <variant> samoura: stop spamming
[03:21] <samoura> Eterm
[03:21] <samoura> fbpanel
[03:21] <gnomefreak> samoura: stop that shit
[03:21] <samoura> just try to help ;S ?
[03:21] <dooglus> gnomefreak: clicked 'meta-gnome2' and typed 'firefox' into the boxes
[03:22] <variant> samoura: just being a pita
[03:22] <jetscreamer> babo: i prefer the nvidia-installer myself
[03:22] <jetscreamer> works fine
[03:23] <desousa2> how can i conect my pc to my cell fone by bluetooth using obex
[03:23] <babo> jetscreamer: failed to load module glx ... unable to find framebuffer device ... warning - writing over important files ... what nvidia installer ?
[03:23] <simon_> can anyone give me a tip on witch DChub software i coud run ? i have tried opendchub but that sucks : P
[03:24] <blacking> please experience suggestions how install a minimal Ubuntu distro inside a dtick usb 1-2 GB??
[03:24] <jetscreamer> babo: you do not want frambuffer enabled in the xorg.conf, so tell the script no when you reconfigure it
[03:24] <gnomefreak> its fixed
[03:24] <jetscreamer> babo: if they are an option still, you want to enable glx and disable gl_core
[03:24] <babo> jetscreamer: but it still gives me the file overwrite warning
[03:24] <jetscreamer> and dri
[03:25] <babo> jetscreamer: it can't load the glx module
[03:25] <jetscreamer> babo: yes but it should be saying overwriting possibly customized file
[03:25] <funkyHat> blacking, to make it portable? the installed ubuntu isn't very portable
[03:25] <babo> jetscreamer: what's the nvidia installer ?
[03:26] <jetscreamer> babo:  sounds like maybe it's conflicting with the nvidia-glx. you 'may' need to uninstall it to use the nv driver, but i don't know because i don't use either.
[03:26] <dredo> hello
[03:26] <jetscreamer> babo: it's the binary only non-free non-gpl installer supplied by nvidia
[03:26] <dredo> idi v jopu
[03:26] <r2ndom> how do i disable the text manipulation in various windows?  example, select text in firefox, click and drag highlighted text, and i get this annoying "text drag" icon cursor.
[03:26] <dredo> g
[03:26] <Absenth> anyone here use the .deb skype installer?
[03:26] <blacking> is there a simple guide how to do this in wiki pages..
[03:26] <babo> jetscreamer: I can't uninstall nvidia-glx ... it tells me that it'll have to overwrite some files from the database and then quits ... I can give you details if you'd like
[03:27] <jetscreamer> babo: sure we've gone this far
[03:27] <babo> jetscreamer: where do I get it ... do they have one suitable for my non-operating system ?
[03:27] <IdleOne> !skype
[03:27] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[03:27] <jetscreamer> babo: nvidia.com
[03:27] <gnomefreak> samoura: DO NOT PM ME
[03:27] <blacking> but i must work around apple filesystem..
[03:27] <babo> jetscreamer: is there a .deb ?
[03:28] <jetscreamer> babo: there are 2 things you must do before using it. well one to do and one to know.
[03:28] <Absenth> Danke for the !skype
[03:28] <[D-Tail] > heya guys
[03:28] <jetscreamer> babo: maybe somewhere i'm sure there is but i don't know of one
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell samoura about coc
[03:28] <babo> jetscreamer: does it include the kernel modules ?
[03:28] <jetscreamer> yes
[03:28] <[ic] Adam> hey, i cant download a iso recorder thing
[03:28] <[ic] Adam> the 64 thing doesnt work
[03:28] <jetscreamer> babo: but not for your kernel
[03:28] <[ic] Adam> and i have service pack 2
[03:28] <gnomefreak> read it
[03:28] <[ic] Adam> so i pressed link number 2 :Z
[03:28] <jetscreamer> babo they supply some for rh and suse iirc
[03:29] <[D-Tail] > can someone help me with this - Xorg.0.log contains "(EE) fglrx(0): Failed to initialize UMM driver."
[03:29] <[D-Tail] > ?
[03:29] <[ic] Adam> >_<
[03:29] <babo> jetscreamer: hmmm .... I'm on amd64 as well btw
[03:29] <[ic] Adam> bb gota goto school
[03:29] <[D-Tail] > my fglrx doesn't work anymore T_T
[03:29] <gnomefreak> _jason: is there a command to block someone from pming you?
[03:29] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  /ignore nick
[03:29] <jetscreamer> gnomefreak: try /umode +E
[03:29] <blacking> is there a pple-ubuntu user here??
[03:30] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  but it isnt recommend according to the ubuntu unofficial rules
[03:30] <babo> jetscreamer: I had all this working yesterday, I'm sure that I installed the very same nvidia driver ... but today it went kaput again
[03:30] <zsolty> Hi! anyone can help me with this error? configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[03:30] <zsolty>  ????
[03:30] <jetscreamer> babo: i don't know amd64 either. but it 'shouldn't' matter.
[03:30] <babo> jetscreamer: what are the odds that it's going to go kaput again tomorrow ?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> ok its been changed dont know if it works tho
[03:30] <jetscreamer> zsolty: what happens if you apt-get install kde-config
[03:30] <[D-Tail] > can anyone help me with the fglrx 'UMM' message?
[03:31] <babo> jetscreamer: actually don't answer that ... I love surprises
[03:31] <jetscreamer> babo: not sure. if you ever got the nvidia-installer to work i would say no
[03:31] <jetscreamer> anything else, i wouldn't know
[03:31] <blacking> but you are all pc user here..??
[03:31] <blacking> grrrr... ;)
[03:32] <babo> jetscreamer: it's going to be a balls to download ... my other ubuntu freezes when I try to put in any usb device
[03:32] <jetscreamer> wget
[03:32] <jetscreamer> works with ftp too
[03:32] <jetscreamer> wget -c
[03:32] <babo> jetscreamer: ya, it was the exact same package that I used yesterday ... and deleted to-day
[03:32] <xiaoyu> how can i remove the icons on mu desktop of the fat32 partitions
[03:32] <babo> jetscreamer: but there was also another package I downloaded with it ... can't remember what that was though ...
[03:32] <zsolty> it dosn't work: apt-get install kde-config. Any sugestions ???
[03:33] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search kde-config
[03:33] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search kde |grep -i config
[03:33] <IdleOne> jetscreamer:  i did sudo apt-get --purge kde* and it removed/purged 115 kde packages but I still have all the kde apps in my menu list
[03:34] <jetscreamer> babo: no idea. for the nvidia-installer you need the kernel-headers. apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`   ` not '
[03:34] <jetscreamer> IdleOne: update-menus maybe, but not sure.
[03:34] <desousa2> erm
[03:34] <desousa2> i cant seem to
[03:34] <IdleOne> !enter
[03:34] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:34] <desousa2> send things by bluetooth to my pc
[03:35] <gnomefreak> umode -E
[03:35] <jetscreamer> /
[03:35] <gnomefreak> that didnt work :(
[03:35] <jetscreamer> +E
[03:35] <jetscreamer> /umode +E
[03:35] <gnomefreak> i got it ty
[03:35] <jetscreamer> won't allow unregistered users to pm you
[03:35] <gnomefreak> i took the E off maybe he got the hint
[03:35] <jetscreamer> ah
[03:36] <babo> jetscreamer: I must say that I'm not a big fan of debian's non GPL code being banished from their systems ... especially when they don't have anything to replace these packages themselves
[03:36] <jetscreamer> won't stop registered users though
[03:36] <gnomefreak> jetscreamer: i dont know if hes reg or not
[03:36] <G3PPcUbuntu> Any people here use UbuntuPPC??
[03:36] <Ng> babo: you don't have to be a fan, their policy is quite clear
[03:36] <dooglus> gnomefreak: your "bug" in firefox is deliberate, apparently.
[03:36] <jetscreamer> a, it's not banished, b, this isn't debian
[03:36] <zsolty> Can anybody tell me a good program for tvtuners under Ubuntu ?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> dooglus: what do you mean?
[03:36] <blacking> ok thanks for all
[03:36] <jetscreamer> mythtv
[03:36] <xiaoyu> how can i remove the icons on mu desktop of the fat32 partitions mounted
[03:36] <_jason> dooglus: irc.freenode.net died for me, what happened with the firefox bug?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> dooglus: they set it that way on purpose?
[03:37] <dooglus> gnomefreak: yes.  look at the changelog
[03:37] <jetscreamer> xiaoyu: there's a setting for that in the settings area, i forget where
[03:37] <G3PPcUbuntu> Im trying to run dual partitions, one MacOS9.1 and the other LinuxPPC Breezy Badger
[03:37] <gnomefreak> dooglus: i dont know how to view changelog
[03:37] <babo> Ng: you can't imagine how much fun I've had everytime I hit one of these 'bumps' in the system architecture ... I'm on AMD64 as well which makes things even more exciting
[03:37] <dooglus> _jason: search for NoAsk in /usr/share/doc/firefox/changelog.Debian.gz
[03:37] <_jason> gnomefreak: aptitude changelog firefox
[03:38] <zsolty> Can anybody tell me a good program for capture cards under Ubuntu ?
[03:38] <zsolty> for viewing tv ???
[03:38] <gnomefreak> ah ty _jason did we start using aptittude instead of apt-get for any reason? (been using apt-get)
[03:38] <_jason> dooglus: not on dapper, but I believe you :)
[03:38] <Ng> babo: I run an amd64 box and apart from some 32bit things not working it's fine
[03:39] <gnomefreak> aptitude cant display changelog
[03:39] <_jason> gnomefreak: I just know aptitiude shows changelog, never checked apt-cache.  Aptitude is supposed to handle deps better though
[03:40] <_jason> gnomefreak: use dooglus' method then I guess, worked here for firefox1.07
[03:40] <desousa2> someone know how can i put my pc to reciev files trough bluetooth?
[03:40] <|mp|> if you install Dapper Flight 4 as a fresh install will you end up with the same as a final version fresh install?
[03:41] <Ng> |mp|: ish, yes
[03:41] <_jason> |mp|: when you update it on april 20th you should
[03:41] <G3PPcUbuntu> Any ppl on this chan using Ubuntu on Apple hardware?
[03:41] <|mp|> _jason - ok, that's good to know
[03:42] <|mp|> Ng - what's the "ish"? :)
[03:42] <babo> Ng: well good for you then ... :-)
[03:42] <Ng> |mp|: it won't be identical, but it should be pretty damn close
[03:43] <Ng> babo: what are you having problems with?
[03:43] <|mp|> Ng - if not identical can you explain what the difference would be?
[03:43] <IdleOne> |mp|:  fixed bugs?
[03:44] <snowblink> G3PPcUbuntu, could not get breezy to play with iMac G5
[03:44] <skott> whenever i try to play a video i get: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. but im not running any other program
[03:45] <|mp|> IdleOne, well with "end up with" i mean doing apt-get upgrade all along - so, like _jason notes, when you update on April 20 it should be the same - Ng seems to suggest no
[03:45] <G3PPcUbuntu> snowblink, i got it to work with an old Lombard G3
[03:45] <Al-Daja> ok anyone with bitchx that can help me?
[03:45] <Ng> |mp|: there might not be a difference, but for example, some configurations or user settings files might collect things that relate to things that are changed or removed between now and april 20th
[03:45] <babo> Ng: I guess you could say one issue after the next, after the next ... by the time I get everything to work together and properly ... it's time for an upgrade to dapper or whatever else is around the corner ... I do really like ubuntu though ... it's cool, it's just that when I think of working on my computer - with ubuntu that usually means working on the system itself and not actually getting a whole lot of time to do the things that I get paid for ... but an
[03:45] <babo> yway that's just my rant ... thanks for your help... it's appreciated ... it really is
[03:45] <G3PPcUbuntu> only thing is: installing macOS9 on the free hfs+ partition i left for it seems to have killed Yaboot loader somehow.
[03:45] <IdleOne> |mp|:  think with Ng meant was probably the look and feel will be the same but the major bugs should all be gone
[03:46] <luisito> any way to make aMSN use the GTK or QT engines?
[03:46] <IdleOne> but I cant speak for Ng
[03:46] <Ng> babo: do you specifically need the amd64 version? the 386 version will probably be a lot quicker to get going
[03:46] <Ng> luisito: almost certainly not, it uses wxWindows afaik
[03:46] <lucky_strike> bla
[03:47] <IdleOne> G3PPcUbuntu:  when I tried to dual boot on my G3 i got a bootstrap error that i couldnt resolve
[03:47] <babo> Ng: ya ... but at the end of the day I'm a gluton for punishment I guess ... plus I have a trusty P3 windows laptop just in case the s**t hits the fan ... :-)
[03:47] <luisito> why they use that thing, that doesn't look good, the fonts doesn't get the hints but the software is good.
[03:48] <lucky_strike> is it possible to install programs, which are not in the packeges of ubuntu? in synaptic for example
[03:48] <Ng> luisito: I imagine because they wanted to take advantage of its cross-platform-ness
[03:48] <G3PPcUbuntu> IdleOne: bootstrap error?? All i have is the choice of either a MacOS or a Linux OS but not both (?!)
[03:48] <babo> Ng: thanks for listening to my rant though ... if it wasn't for the general good will of the linux community that post on the forums and on irc like this one, I wouldn't use the linux os anymore
[03:48] <Ng> luisito: generally, no. what are you looking to install?
[03:48] <|mp|> Ng: I see - that makes sense, although it doesn't make sense from a user perspective. One would hope that one day fresh installs weren't necessary at all - and that user config data would get updated
[03:48] <skott> whenever i try to play a video i get: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. but im not running any other program
[03:48] <G3PPcUbuntu> IdleOne: youre saying you couldnt get both OS'es to run...?
[03:48] <IdleOne> G3PPcUbuntu:  I gave up on macs put mine in the closet where they dont give me headaches
[03:48] <IdleOne> G3PPcUbuntu:  thats what im saying
[03:49] <Q_Continuum> anybody know how to set up dual-display support on an nVidia card by chance?
[03:49] <funkyHat> Goodwill of Linux users on IRC?
[03:49] <Ng> |mp|: all systems accumulate cruft over time and if you're running a development version you're probably updatinga significant number of packages every day, so there is a lot of churn. Personally I will do a fresh install in april, but there's no real need to
[03:49] <G3PPcUbuntu> IdleOne: kewl; im gonna try and get my 802.11b to run at a Unix conference im going to in 2 weeks.
[03:49] <babo> jetscreamer: thanks I have it working again now ...
[03:49] <Ng> Q_Continuum: with both monitors connected to the one card? yes
[03:49] <ahz> How do I search to find which package provides libSM.so.6?
[03:49] <ahz> (When libSM.so.6 is not installed?)
[03:49] <Q_Continuum> Ng: any tips from you, or a wiki page, or otherwise on howto?
[03:49] <jetscreamer> babo so what/which fixed it
[03:50] <G3PPcUbuntu> IdleOne: my wireless PCMCIA card fits into my Lombard G3 fine, i just need Ubuntu to run WEAP encruption.
[03:50] <_jason> ahz: install apt-file and do sudo apt-file update, then do apt-file search blah
[03:50] <luisito> I like the amsn, but I can't change the helvetica font 'cause all the other fonts looks very bad without hinting, that's my main complin.
[03:50] <luisito> complain*
[03:50] <Ng> Q_Continuum: I wrote a quick&dirty wiki page detailing how I did it, I think it's called MultipleMonitors
[03:50] <ahz> _jason: OK, which package provides apt-file?  :)  I don't have it
[03:50] <luisito> Ng: I like the amsn, but I can't change the helvetica font 'cause all the other fonts looks very bad without hinting, that's my main complain.
[03:51] <_jason> ahz: 'apt-file' :)
[03:51] <boneill> is software for the AMD64 build harder to find than software for the i386 build?
[03:51] <pudland> !find libSM.so.6
[03:51] <gnomefreak> ahz: sudo apt-get install apt-file  to install it
[03:51] <Ng> boneill: the ubuntu repositories should provide almost identical libraries for amd64 as i386
[03:51] <boneill> ty ng
[03:51] <pudland> ahz, try this!find libSM.so.6
[03:52] <G3PPcUbuntu> IdleOne: any idea if there are any mac savvy Ubuntu users on this channel or others??
[03:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libSM.so.6' (1 shown): (/usr/lib/{libSM.so.6|libSM.so.6.0.1}) in libs/libsm6.
[03:52] <trappist> boneill: little bit.  some software isn't open source and not provided for amd64.
[03:52] <Ng> boneill: if you mean pre-compiled software elsewhere on the net, then yes, mostly people will just release i386 and ppc versions, but many of the 386 binaries run on the amd64 ubuntu because it provides some compatiblity libraries
[03:52] <IdleOne> G3PPcUbuntu:  there are a few dont know if any around right now
[03:52] <ahz> "apt-get install apt-file" does not find the package.  I just have one repositority.  Am I missing some repos?
[03:52] <babo> jetscreamer: I just did the nvidia install thing again ... but I think the problem may have been caused by different gcc libraries. Not sure though, but when I compiled the modules I had to export gcc-3.4, my system runs on gcc-4.0  Q: would this problem persist over a bootup ... would I need to export gcc-3.4 to run the nvidia xserver system on boot up ... or would I just need to export it for the compilation ? ... that's the only thing I can think of
[03:52] <pudland> ahz, yes you are
[03:52] <gnomefreak> ahz: yes if you only have one
[03:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ahz about sources
[03:53] <IdleOne> babo:  apt-get install build-essential
[03:53] <skott> whenever i try to play a video i get: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. but im not running any other program
[03:53] <babo> IdleOne: ?
[03:53] <Ng> babo: you'll need to compile the nvidia kernel module with gcc-3.4, but can't you use the drivers in ubuntu?
[03:53] <Ng> it's way easier ;)
[03:53] <desousa2> anyone knows anything bout obexftp?
[03:53] <IdleOne> babo:  that will resolve the gcc3.4 issue
[03:54] <babo> IdleOne: I already have gcc installed ... the problem is switching between the versions
[03:54] <pudland> uboto tell ahz about sources
[03:55] <gnomefreak> pudland: its ubotu and he already has been sent them
[03:55] <babo> Ng: I have geforce6 with the new PCIexpress non-agp motherboard connection. The ubuntu modules are version 1.0.3 whereas this is 1.0.8 or something like that ...
[03:55] <pudland> gnomefreak, i have 20 fingers, ooops
[03:55] <babo> Ng: they are putting the new ones in dapper ... but they haven't made their way into breezy yet apparently
[03:55] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: build-essential comes with gcc 4 and i think hes looking for the export command
[03:56] <ahz> The Wiki has instructions for GUI.  Since I only have console, where can I find /etc/apt/sources.list for breezy?
[03:56] <Ng> babo: ah. doh. they probably won't either
[03:56] <gilligan_> hi
[03:56] <gilligan_> has anyone here sucessfully tried Xgl ?
[03:56] <Ng> you can prefix a command that will be compiling with CC=gcc-3.4 to use 3.4 over 4.0
[03:56] <gnomefreak> ahz: sudo <texteditor of choice> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <babo> Ng: no it's ok, I did the recompile already ... I'm just wondering if thats what caused the failure on boot that I got last time after I'd gone through this same process yesterday
[03:57] <ahz> gnomefreak: I know how to edit it, but it only has one line, so I can't install apt-file
[03:57] <Ng> babo: possibly, but nvidia's installer is usually smrt enough to notice that gcc versions don't match
[03:57] <feistel> I need translate Ubuntu installer to new language, any can help me?
[03:57] <gnomefreak> !repos
[03:57] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:57] <gnomefreak> damn
[03:57] <Ng> feistel: #ubuntu-devel might be a better place to ask, but I'm not sure where the translators hang out. perhaps search the wiki? :)
[03:57] <thmas> what's the problem gilligan_ ?
[03:57] <babo> Ng: so will I have to export the gcc-3.4 to startx again tomorrow morning ?
[03:58] <G3PPcUbuntu> thanks for your help those who did IdeOne etc :)
[03:58] <G3PPcUbuntu> later ppl!
[03:58] <Ng> babo: no, you'd just need to do that while compiling it. once it's been built and the kernel module loads you ought to be fine
[03:58] <skott> anybody?
[03:58] <gnomefreak> ahz: go here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 asnd paste that inplace of your list if using breezy
[03:58] <gnomefreak> !anybody
[03:58] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:58] <ahz> gnomefreak: I think that's exactly what I needed.  Thanks
[03:59] <skott> whenever i try to play a video i get: The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. but im not running any other program
[03:59] <desousa2> erm
[03:59] <desousa2> ....
[03:59] <babo> Ng: hmmm ... that's what I thought ... but that doesn't explain why I seem to have to run the reinstaller and export the gcc everytime I boot up
[03:59] <gnomefreak> yw ahz now run sudo apt-get update than install the package after its done
[03:59] <lucky_strike> is it possible to install programs, which i don't find in the packages of ubuntu?..
[03:59] <gnomefreak> lucky_strike: what program?
[03:59] <gilligan_> thmas, I tried it according to infro from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131253
[04:00] <gilligan_> thmas, the very first problem is, that there is no apps/compiz/ (gconf)
[04:00] <Mostwant3d> what is the tool name to access linux files in windows
[04:00] <lucky_strike> gnomefreak: e.g. IPSorcery
[04:00] <_jason> !+explore2fs
[04:00] <ubotu> explore2fs is, like, totally, to get read/write access to your Linux ext2/3 partitions from windows, see http://www.fs-driver.org/.  You can also just use http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm as a nifty program that will let you read from your linux partitions and transfer files.
[04:00] <babo> where's the best place to ask about bash scripts ... pls don't say #bash cause there's never anyone there ... ditto with #shell
[04:01] <gnomefreak> lucky_strike: do they have a .deb?
[04:01] <colm_working> babo, you could try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:01] <gilligan_> thmas, so now I wonder if I am missing some package.. but I installed everything mentioned .. compiz, compiz-gnome, and glitz and the various other libs mentioned in the howto
[04:01] <gnomefreak> lucky_strike: you want a .deb but if you cant find one go with a tar.gz and compile it  .deb is easiest
[04:02] <skott> gnomefreak, can u help me? por favor.
[04:02] <gnomefreak> gilligan_: they are having issues with compwiz and xgl in dapper there is a room deticated to that also
[04:03] <gnomefreak> skott: no but someone will answer you when (if) they know the answer/fix
[04:03] <lucky_strike> gnomefreak: and how can i install the stuff if i have .deb? dpkg -i packagename ?
[04:03] <Ng> babo: no, that's quite quite odd
[04:03] <gnomefreak> lucky_strike: sudo dpkg -i packaename
[04:03] <Webx> what dose EDITOR represent in the Environment Variables??
[04:03] <xiaoyu> "Fontconfig error: line 322: mismatched tag
[04:03] <xiaoyu> " what shall i do
[04:03] <thmas> so u r trying to use xgl with gnome, right? gilligan_
[04:03] <lucky_strike> gnomefreak: yes, thx
[04:03] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:03] <_jason> Webx: your default editor
[04:03] <gilligan_> thmas, yes
[04:03] <gnomefreak> !xgl
[04:03] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:03] <Webx> _jason: for what? =S
[04:04] <Q_Continuum> Ng: with the MultipleMonitor solution, did you use TwinView, or Xinerama, if you can recall?
[04:04] <gilligan_> ubotu, ah.good to know :)
[04:04] <_jason> Webx: stuff like visudo
[04:04] <ubotu> gilligan_: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:04] <Ng> Q_Continuum: twinview
[04:04] <Razziel> Hi, friends. I'm trying to build nautilus-sendto, but I got the following error: dpkg-deb: construyendo el paquete `nautilus-sendto' en `../nautilus-sendto_0.4-0ubuntu4_i386.deb'.
[04:04] <Razziel>  dpkg-genchanges
[04:04] <Razziel> dpkg-genchanges: not including original source code in upload
[04:04] <Razziel> dpkg-buildpackage: binary and diff upload (original source NOT included)
[04:04] <Razziel> Now signing changes and any dsc files...
[04:04] <Razziel>  signfile nautilus-sendto_0.4-0ubuntu4.dsc Daniel Holbach <dh@mailempfang.de>
[04:04] <Razziel> gpg: skipped "Daniel Holbach <dh@mailempfang.de>": secret key not available
[04:04] <Ng> Q_Continuum: xinerama is for stitching multiple cards together, but if you're just using two outputs on a single card then twinview is much better
[04:04] <Razziel> gpg: [stdin] : clearsign failed: secret key not available
[04:04] <Razziel> debsign: gpg error occurred!  Aborting....
[04:04] <Razziel> debuild: fatal error at line 788:
[04:04] <gnomefreak> Razziel: do not paste in here
[04:04] <Ng> Razziel: please don't paste errors in here :)
[04:04] <_jason> Webx: 'editor' command too
[04:04] <Razziel> running debsign failed
[04:04] <lucky_strike> gnomefreak: can you give me any links to manuals how to copmlie the sources? i could never make it work...
[04:04] <Razziel> can somebody help me?
[04:04] <Webx> _jason: sorry but im a reall noob, whats visudo?
[04:04] <Q_Continuum> Ok, thanks.  Wasn't sure which to use.
[04:04] <Razziel> soory
[04:04] <_jason> Webx: edits your /etc/sudoers, just an example.  Don't mess with it :)
[04:04] <Razziel> sorry
[04:05] <Ng> Razziel: build with -uc -us so it doesn't try and sign the resulting package
[04:05] <Webx> _jason: so its like the default editor for text and so on?
[04:05] <MasterC> Hi
[04:05] <thmas> i just used xgl under kde, so
[04:05] <_jason> Webx: yeah, some things will consider $EDITOR to see if that is set and use that as your editor
[04:05] <Mostwant3d> is there any prog to access on linux files via windows?
[04:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell Mostwant3d about explore2fs
[04:06] <MasterC> I am using, dapper and  the tv card saa7134 drvier does not work any more
[04:06] <Q_Continuum> by default, I assume Ubuntu installs the non-binary-only nvidia drivers, and i need to install those?
[04:06] <Webx> _jason: thanks
[04:06] <xiaoyu> "Fontconfig error: line 322: mismatched tag
[04:06] <xiaoyu> " what shall i do
[04:06] <MasterC> on breezy it works. I think...
[04:06] <Ng> MasterC: sounds like it'd be worth filing a bug in launchpad.net
[04:06] <Razziel> Ng, thanks!
[04:07] <MasterC> yep
[04:07] <Ng> !tell Q_Continuum about nvidia
[04:10] <Webx> _jason: you know what PAGER stands for 2?
[04:10] <_jason> does that /ping show for the whole channel?
[04:10] <_jason> Webx: nope
[04:11] <funkyHat> _jason, yes
[04:11] <m_tadeu> _jason: nop
[04:11] <funkyHat> * Received a CTCP PING 1141053003 66494 from _jason (to #ubuntu)
[04:11] <cwillu> feel free to stop pinging :)
[04:11] <_jason> is it still doing it?
[04:11] <m_tadeu> lolol
[04:11] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:11] <funkyHat> _jason, no
[04:11] <_jason> lol ok :)
[04:12] <gnomefreak> bbs i have to reboot
[04:12] <Webx> Anyone knows what PAGER stands for en the Environment Variables?
[04:12] <funkyHat> :O
[04:12] <funkyHat> Reboot? on a linux system?
[04:12] <Ng> Webx: the default console text viewer to use, so usually something like more or less
[04:12] <Webx> Ng: thanks
[04:14] <babo_> I need a bash maestro here, I've got a problem ...  my first URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION works fine, and all the new lines are preserved. But the second one after the php urlecode function is stripped of all it's newlines and thus is just a blob of text ... I'll post the code here sinces it's only two lines or so ...
[04:14] <babo_> URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION="`cat job_description`"
[04:14] <babo_> URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION=`php -r "echo rawurlencode('$URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION');"`
[04:15] <kestas> what changed to the ubuntu-docs?
[04:15] <h3ax> arg
[04:15] <h3ax> scre** it.. im formatting
[04:16] <Q_Continuum> Ng: I followed those instructions, however, upon restarting X, it didn't display the Nvidia logo...any ideas?  Or should I just reboot the box and see if that fixes it?
[04:16] <Razziel> I've installed an old version of nautilus-sendto. Now, the updates-notifier (i don't know its name) need to update the system and will remove the nautilus-sendto that I have just installed. Can I tell apt not to touch this package?
[04:16] <_jason> kestas: aptitude changelog ubuntu-docs
[04:16] <babo_> it preserves the linefeeds but kills the newline ... arrrrgh
[04:16] <kestas> Q_Continuum, it doesnt necessarily have to display the nvidia logo for it to have worked
[04:16] <kestas> _jason, thanks
[04:16] <Q_Continuum> Ok
[04:16] <Ng> Q_Continuum: any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[04:16] <graveson> how do i reconfigure the display before loggin into the system
[04:16] <babo_> Q_Continuum: that was what broke mine ...
[04:17] <Q_Continuum> File's got alot of data in it, Ng.
[04:18] <gnomefreak> hal is broken in dapper now :(
[04:18] <Ng> Q_Continuum: if X actually started then you're probably fine. any errors will be at the end
[04:18] <Q_Continuum> ok
[04:18] <pitti> gnomefreak: ?
[04:18] <gnomefreak> pitti: ?
[04:18] <Ng> Q_Continuum: you can run "glxinfo | grep -i vendor" in a terminal and if they all say nvidia then you are running their driver
[04:18] <_jason> babo_: if I do echo $URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION it doesn't show newlines, so maybe that cat blah thing is the problem
[04:19] <pitti> gnomefreak: a *bit* more details would be useful
[04:19] <Nukeador> hi all
[04:19] <meuserj|work> gnomefreak: I just updated dapper and everything works fine for me....
[04:19] <Q_Continuum> all Nvidia.  Thanks.
[04:19] <hellspawn66> hi @all
[04:19] <Ng> Q_Continuum: :)
[04:19] <gnomefreak> pitti: in dapper the hal upgrade its there (should be now) after reboot fails to load
[04:19] <Q_Continuum> now, for TwinView.
[04:19] <Q_Continuum> :D
[04:19] <h1p> oops, any FAQ for nv video drivers ? :)  "!tell Q_Continuum about nvidia" - or what that means?
[04:20] <chmod775> !xine
[04:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod775
[04:20] <jerusalem> hello guys. i gotta conect via ftp to a windows (ugg) server and it won't let me. any ideas?
[04:20] <chmod775> !players
[04:20] <ubotu> methinks players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[04:20] <pitti> gnomefreak: can you please do a hal debug output as described on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices and mail the log to martin.pitt@ubuntu.com?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> meuserj|work: did you update hal?
[04:20] <Q_Continuum> !tell hlp about nvidia
[04:20] <Q_Continuum> enjoy :D
[04:20] <jerusalem> anyone?
[04:20] <meuserj|work> gnomefreak: I updated everything.
[04:21] <chmod775> how do I install xine
[04:21] <LinuxIdiot> hi i need a lil help starting Xserver can someone help me out
[04:21] <r2ndom> i am trying to partition a USB memory stick that was setup by Damn Small Linux, I've booted from the ubuntu live DVD and am trying to run cfdisk.  it says i only have write permission?
[04:21] <chmod775> anything on wiki
[04:21] <Nukeador> I have a problem, ive installed and propertly configured my wifi card, a can access to the net but if i dont generate trafic for a while i get disconected and i cant reconect. Any idea?
[04:21] <Ng> chmod775: use synaptic or apt-get to install the xine-ui package
[04:21] <r2ndom> err only read permission
[04:21] <h1p> thx , hasnt got anything tho :))
[04:21] <h3ax> LinuxIdiot.. type X
[04:21] <chmod775> Ng, thanks dude gotca
[04:21] <chmod775> gotcha
[04:21] <h3ax> if you are in console mode
[04:22] <graveson> can anyone tell me ,how do reconfigure my display.it keeps on hanging when i log in
[04:22] <gnomefreak> pitti: that would work only one problem what devices are controlled by hal?
[04:22] <meuserj|work> r2ndom: run the command through sudo: "sudo <command>"
[04:22] <LinuxIdiot> h3ax when i type startx a black screen with green stripes comes up and stay there
[04:22] <_jason> graveson: dpkg-reocnfigure xserver-xorg, sounds like you should choose "vesa" as your video driver
[04:22] <_jason> graveson: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, sounds like you should choose "vesa" as your video driver
[04:22] <gnomefreak> that and everything works sound usbs moniter
[04:23] <h1p> !tell hlp about nvidia
[04:23] <LinuxIdiot> _jason i have the same problem i did everything on ubuntuforums still dont work
[04:23] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: did you do the above ^
[04:23] <LinuxIdiot> yes
[04:23] <r2ndom> meuserj|work, ok now getting different error.  that's usually good.  :)
[04:23] <bryan> hi
[04:23] <meuserj|work> heh
[04:23] <Marlun> Whats the URL for where I can browse the Ubuntu Dapper repositories on the web?
[04:23] <LinuxIdiot> ive did the sudo aptget install ubuntu-desktop either
[04:23] <bryan> i need some help
[04:23] <jerusalem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9445 anyone gftp?
[04:23] <hellspawn66> could anyone help me bye a problem with gaim
[04:23] <gnomefreak> Marlun: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:23] <chmod775> huh?
[04:23] <LinuxIdiot> but nothing :s
[04:23] <_jason> bryan: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[04:23] <bilange> bryan: just ask away :)
[04:23] <chmod775> jerusalem, gftp?
[04:23] <Marlun> gnomefreak, thank you
[04:24] <gnomefreak> yw Marlun
[04:24] <jerusalem> yeah
[04:24] <jerusalem> chmod
[04:24] <bryan> how do i instal a printer?
[04:24] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: make sure you are using "vesa", check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look at the video driver section
[04:24] <Nukeador> I have a problem, ive installed and propertly configured my wifi card, a can access to the net but if i dont generate trafic for a while i get disconected and i cant reconect. Any idea?
[04:24] <mindamp> say i installed postfix/ssl/amavis and some others... and lets say i want to start completely over fressh from scratch.. how wouldi go about removing those packages and their configuration files?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bryan about printer
[04:24] <chmod775> jerusalem, I guess it's some problem with the site
[04:24] <|mp|> bryan - plug it in!
[04:25] <gnomefreak> apt-get remove --purge or synaptic
[04:25] <jerusalem> yeah
[04:25] <LinuxIdiot> _jason ive did it
[04:25] <LinuxIdiot> still nuthin :s
[04:25] <gnomefreak> in synth aptic use complete removal
[04:25] <jerusalem> but i got in months ago w/ ubuntu
[04:25] <LinuxIdiot> im stuck on the login prompt
[04:25] <jerusalem> but i dont remember what i did
[04:25] <gnomefreak> synaptic*
[04:25] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: I don't know then
[04:25] <LinuxIdiot> _jason can u show me step by step how u got ur ubuntu installed well
[04:25] <gnomefreak> hellspawn66: is there a reason you imed me?
[04:25] <bryan> its plugged in of course
[04:26] <LinuxIdiot> i guess it can help me out
[04:26] <lucky_strike> are the .deb packages compiled specially for ubuntu?
[04:26] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: I just put the install disk and installed it
[04:26] <bryan> it just the drivers are set for windows
[04:26] <gnomefreak> lucky_strike: yes most of times
[04:26] <r2ndom> cfdisk doesn't like the path to device:  /media/usbdisk
[04:26] <r2ndom> nor does fdisk
[04:26] <LinuxIdiot> _jason: and after u didn't see any login prompt like when u use putty for remoting
[04:26] <gnomefreak> lucky_strike: it depends on the .deb but ubuntu no not really its debian in general
[04:26] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: ?
[04:27] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: ssh isn't installed by default so you wouldn't be able to use putty unless you install opennssh-server
[04:27] <hellspawn66> i need help by a problem with gaim, i installed kopete to try it out and if i now start gaim i lost all my contacts in icq list
[04:27] <LinuxIdiot> _jason: sorry i ment when u ended the installing u wasn't prompt to login
[04:28] <lucky_strike> gnomefreak: thanks
[04:28] <gnomefreak> yw lucky_strike
[04:28] <r2ndom> ok, /dev/sda is for usb media, that works better.  :)
[04:28] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: do you get a gdm graphical login screen?
[04:28] <LinuxIdiot> _jason: nah only a command line
[04:29] <renlore> does linux have a flash plugin?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> hellspawn66: kopete has no direct connection to gaim in any way shape or form. you need to find out if its gaim thats messed up or kopete. is your kopete bl there for whatever cleint your using?
[04:29] <LinuxIdiot> _jason: any idea?
[04:29] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: what does 'apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop | grep -i Installed' do?
[04:29] <bryan> ok... i went to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters and my printer doesn't show up...
[04:29] <_jason> (I know you did this already but we are gonna try again :))
[04:29] <Ng> renlore: yes, install the flashplugin-nonfree package or just go to a page with flash in it and ask firefox to install the plugin
[04:29] <bryan> it a Lexmark Z600
[04:30] <_jason> bryan: try the linuxprinting.org link
[04:30] <LinuxIdiot> _jason: dude im dualbooting with xp ive got to logoff to try this again ;)
[04:30] <nemster> is there a way to mount samba shares as user? it always demands root...
[04:30] <bryan> ??
[04:30] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: heh, that's... difficult
[04:31] <LinuxIdiot> nah it isn't just dont logoff
[04:31] <bryan> seriously
[04:31] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: you wouldn't happen to know how to use irssi would you?
[04:31] <Ng> nemster: you can either use the Places->Connect way of mounting drives (not really mounting them) or put an entry in /etc/fstab with the "user" option, to allow users to mount/unmount it
[04:31] <gnomefreak> nemster: mounting normally does ask for sudo/root to do it because you can change it and users shouldnt beable to change files owned by sudouser
[04:31] <Ng> _jason: I use irssi, what's the prob?
[04:31] <gnomefreak> irssi :) love it
[04:31] <_jason> Ng: just wondering if LinuxIdiot does because he is dualbooting and in windows right now
[04:31] <_jason> Ng: he has no X
[04:31] <Ng> ah
[04:32] <Ng> nm ;)
[04:32] <LinuxIdiot> _jason nah i dont use irssi
[04:32] <LinuxIdiot> for dualbooting im using Grub
[04:32] <hellspawn66> gnomefreak: other users on the contact list i had see me online and they can msg me, then i have to add them new to my contact list
[04:32] <chmod775> is there an IRC over http
[04:32] <chmod775> ?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> hellspawn66: what app kopete or gaim?
[04:33] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: :), ok quick tutorial: press ctrl+alt+f2 to get to tty2 and login and do 'irssi' then '/connect freenode', after it connects '/j #ubuntu'
[04:33] <elkbuntu> chmod try http://www.ictoadd.com
[04:33] <hellspawn66> gnomefreak: sry i mean gaim
[04:33] <Ng> chmod775: it is possible to do
[04:33] <chmod775> ok
[04:33] <gnomefreak> hellspawn66: what version of gaim are you using?
[04:33] <elro> hi there, I've just installed ubuntu on a dell x300, but bluetooth doesn't seem to have been detected, any clues anyone?
[04:33] <elkbuntu> chmod755 it's cgi based client
[04:34] <liangtam> How can I install Ubuntu 5.04 onto an old laptop that does not have a CD-Rom drive and has only 32M RAM. It can go by floppy and PCMCIA NIC
[04:34] <LinuxIdiot> _jason: and how is that helping me fixing the ubuntu up ?
[04:34] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: alt+# where # is a number will switch windows in irssi in case it doesnt switch automatically
[04:34] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: it means we can talk to you and you don't have to leave and boot linux
[04:34] <hellspawn66> gnomefreak: 1.5.1
[04:34] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: you can talk to us and be in linux at the same time that way
[04:34] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: 32mb of ram good luck you might beable to install the server install i will have bot pm you with a site
[04:35] <gnomefreak> ^^^ thats for liangtam
[04:35] <chmod775> oh cool
[04:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell liangtam about install
[04:35] <gnomefreak> gm Seveas
[04:35] <chmod775> elkbuntu, is that ur site ?
[04:35] <elkbuntu> chmod775 no
[04:35] <chmod775> ok
[04:35] <LinuxIdiot> okay w8
[04:35] <chmod775> Is there any other sites
[04:36] <gnomefreak> hellspawn66: do you have another user name for whatever client your using?
[04:36] <elkbuntu> chmod775 a friend and i wrote a php irc bot, but for this channel it' d be useless
[04:36] <chmod775> ok
[04:36] <gnomefreak> hellspawn66: if so check to see if that list is working (it doesnt sound like a gaim issue)
[04:36] <Q_Continuum> Well, I broke it.  Ng, remember where your tutorial was?  Followed someone else's, had to restore to the backup I made.
[04:37] <chmod775> It's slow not connecting
[04:37] <javiolo> how its called the mp3 codec package ?
[04:37] <Ng> Q_Continuum: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[04:38] <hellspawn66> gnomefreak: i only have this user name but i will try out a little bit thx for help
[04:38] <chmod775> elkbuntu, Dude it's not connecting
[04:38] <elkbuntu> chmod775 there's a chance freenode is rejecting it. i've never tried using it for freenode channels
[04:38] <chmod775> k
[04:39] <chmod775> it's not working for freenode and also gimp.org
[04:39] <jerusalem> btw chmod775, forcing an active connection to the server worked
[04:39] <chmod775> huh? jerusalem
[04:39] <Zoroaster> I noticed that synaptic had an update for me this morning, looks like a newer versions of the the 5.10 doc, the manual I guess, but where is it, where would have it gone?
[04:39] <avalost> whats the best engine to use with mplayer.. I have a crappy intel 810 gfx card (onboard) and the thing drops frames, skips, sputters and stalls on nearly every movie..
[04:39] <chmod775> did'nt understand what u mean forcing ?
[04:40] <gnomefreak> is there a site that has a list of irc commands by chance?
[04:40] <avalost> especially .wmv files^
[04:40] <javiolo> how its called the mp3 codec package ?
[04:40] <avalost> gnomefreak, yea
[04:40] <avalost> irc.org
[04:40] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:41] <avalost> gnomefreak, wait
[04:41] <avalost> irc.org has changed
[04:41] <jerusalem> i changned the setting i gftp from passive file transfer to active and it stopped disconnecting me
[04:41] <avalost> gnomefreak, what client are you using?
[04:42] <avalost> most clients have a list of cmds if you type /help
[04:42] <pudland> seveas, btw Quinch and I used the binary ati how-to friday.  worked great, cant believe it eluded me for so long.  Thanks again
[04:44] <gnomefreak> avalost: ty
[04:44] <avalost> np
[04:45] <gnomefreak> that was no help either :(
[04:47] <gnomefreak> i was trying to stop someone this am from pming me and i used /umode +E but that doesnt stop reg users (dont know if he was reg)
[04:48] <variant> gnomefreak: try /ignore <nickname>
[04:48] <gnomefreak> variant: that hem in channel only
[04:48] <variant> gnomefreak: try /ignore <nickname> query
[04:48] <variant> gnomefreak: depends on your client
[04:49] <variant> gnomefreak: do /help ignore
[04:49] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[04:52] <milkshake> hey, i downloaded ISO Reader.. how do i burn a cd with it? :O
[04:54] <funkyHat> ailean, you around?
[04:54] <variant> milkshake: that a windows program or somthing?
[04:54] <funkyHat> milkshake, if you want to burn an ISO to CD, install gnomebaker or K3b
[04:55] <funkyHat> using synaptic
[04:55] <gnomefreak> milkshake: in windows best is nero that i have found
[04:55] <Makaraki> hello could anybody help me please? I try to get the gmal -notify and after apt-get install gmail-notify what do I have to do for get the service
[04:55] <milkshake> gnomebaker ok
[04:55] <gnomefreak> Makaraki: open it and add your gmail address to it
[04:56] <milkshake> does gnomebaker work in Windows?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> milkshake: no
[04:56] <funkyHat> milkshake, sorry, I assumed you were using ubuntu
[04:56] <Zoroaster> I downloaded limewire for linux, it comes as an RPM
[04:56] <Makaraki> gnomefreak: After $ locate gmail-notify I have no idea which file is for configuration
[04:56] <Zoroaster> I downloaded limewire for linux, it comes as an RPM, can anyone point me to some info on how to install an rpm
[04:56] <gnomefreak> milkshake: go to nero site download trial and use it to burn the iso
[04:56] <Makaraki> ok
[04:57] <javiolo> Zoroaster use alien
[04:57] <Makaraki> gnomefreak: now it's done forgive me I needed to update and upgrade
[04:57] <gnomefreak> Makaraki: in the menu under applications>internet>gmail-notifier open it there and you will beablet o set it up
[04:57] <Zoroaster> javiolo, you mean use it instead of limewire, or as a means to handle the rpm app?
[04:57] <Makaraki> gnomefreak: thanks man!
[04:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Zoroaster about rmp
[04:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Zoroaster about rpm
[04:58] <javiolo> Zoroaster use it to convert to deb
[04:58] <gnomefreak> Zoroaster: i dont recommend using alien though (personal prefference)
[04:58] <gnomefreak> doesnt limewire have a deb?
[05:00] <_jason> hrmm I guess LinuxIdiot wasn't able to get into irssi and rejoin us
[05:01] <pudland> gnomefreak, http://ubuntuguide.org/
[05:01] <wiFi> hdparm -d /dev/cdrom ---> dma 0
[05:02] <gnomefreak> pudland: dont use ubuntuguide and why are you giving that to me?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> heh
[05:02] <gnomefreak> pudland: the bot knows how to install it
[05:02] <pinner> anybody in here help me with a K3B question?
[05:02] <wiFi> but if i set at 1, when restart cdrom dma return at 0. :-(
[05:02] <gnomefreak> pinner: ask
[05:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell pudland about ubuntuguide
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> thers a config file you edit to enable dma.
[05:02] <pinner> I'm trying to rip all my dvd's to xvid with k3b
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> !dma
[05:02] <pinner> cant figure out the first step
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[05:03] <p_k> hi
[05:03] <p_k> ive got a problem with my network-card... from now to then it cut all connections and is shown as "disabled" in the configuration window - but ( of course.. ) when im tryin to enable eth1 it is going to switch back to "disabled" after a few moments.. any ideas? :(
[05:03] <gnomefreak> lol Dr_Willis ubotu dont like you?
[05:03] <pudland> gnomefreak, i used prior to going breezy.  No breaks though.  KK thanks for the warning
[05:03] <pinner> it says to click on the drive and it will show the titles, and you pick the one you want
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  guess not
[05:03] <liangtam> I don't understand the Netboot method and the NIC is not bootable. Is other method like Loadlin.exe possible?
[05:03] <pinner> I do not get this
[05:03] <pinner> I've used DVD::rip and acidrip, but with bad results
[05:03] <Artemis3> gnomefreak, dont use limewire, use frostwire instead or any better gnutella client
[05:03] <gnomefreak> pudland: not everyone will have things break but alot of people have id say more so than not
[05:03] <gnomefreak> Artemis3: i dont use either
[05:04] <Artemis3> k
[05:04] <gnomefreak> Artemis3: someone had a rpm for it and i thought there was a different way and there is
[05:04] <pudland> gnomefreak, kk. I'll refrain from suggesting.  Thanks much.
[05:04] <pinner> K3B shouldnt have any lack of functionality running under gnome though, right?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> pinner,  i use it under gnome all the time - just fine
[05:05] <pudland> gnomefreak, limewire is buggy for me after breezy upgrade
[05:05] <WoC> any major differences between ubuntu and debian?
[05:05] <Artemis3> i like automatix, heheheh
[05:05] <gnomefreak> WoC: i would say so
[05:06] <pinner> I've tried to install the latest version of K3B also. but it gives me dependency issues and reverts back to the 0.12.7
[05:06] <gnomefreak> automatix is garbage see /msg ubotu automatix
[05:06] <WoC> gnomefreak, would it be i.e. a long list of things?
[05:06] <p_k> ive got a problem with my network-card... from now to then it cut all connections and is shown as "disabled" in the configuration window - but ( of course.. ) when im tryin to enable eth1 it is going to switch back to "disabled" after a few moments.. any ideas? :(
[05:06] <gnomefreak> WoC: what ar eyou looking for
[05:07] <gnomefreak> irssi needs spellcheck :(
[05:07] <Howitzer> Does one really need fetchmail?
[05:07] <mirak> I have no manpages
[05:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell WoC about ubuntu
[05:07] <mirak> on dapper
[05:07] <mirak> what the problem ?
[05:07] <Howitzer> !ubuntu
[05:07] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[05:07] <gnomefreak> WoC: that site might help a lilbit
[05:07] <WoC> just checking, if it''s too close to debian, i prolly save the time by not installing it, but if it''s not too similar then I would prolly give it a go ;)
[05:08] <NET||abuse> how can i mount my ntfs drive, just to copy files from it?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> WoC: it uses some of the same tools but there are noticable differences to me
[05:08] <Seveas> !ntfs
[05:08] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:08] <Artemis3> gnomefreak, i know how to do it the other way, but when you need to deploy many machines, it gets tiresome... since all that stuff is not "official", i have not seen any other "express" method to install all the "forbidden" stuff.
[05:08] <NET||abuse> fstab currently has "/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0"
[05:08] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak ive got a problem wih the ubuntu desktop i dont get to it when booting all i have is a login prompt when i log in i get to a command line thats all
[05:08] <Seveas> WoC, Ubuntu is much easier to install and use
[05:08] <WoC> god enough, I'll try it ;]  ty
[05:08] <WoC> opps
[05:08] <WoC> good, not god...
[05:08] <NET||abuse> and that fstab doesn't read the mount int here at all.
[05:09] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: yes i know _jason was working with you (assuming you never got irssi to run)?
[05:09] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: jason went out :s
[05:09] <mirak> I have no manpages, but the package is installed
[05:09] <WoC> gnomefreak, wouldn't happen to know if there would be any special issues using nvidia card with ubuntu?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> mirak: in terminal type man sudo
[05:10] <Howitzer> there aren't any
[05:10] <NET||abuse> ahhh nuts,,, ok, the media/hda1 is owned by root
[05:10] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: irssi isnot important the point is that my desktop screen dont want to come up as any traditional OS's
[05:10] <liangtam> gnomefreak, I don't understand the Netboot install method and the NIC is not bootable. Is other method like Loadlin.exe possible? And if yes, What additional commands should I pass onto the kernel in such case where the amount of RAM is low?
[05:10] <Howitzer> provided you follow the guides!
[05:10] <NET||abuse> can't view it as normal user
[05:10] <Howitzer> !nvidia
[05:10] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:10] <NET||abuse> well ok, i suppose i can just copy everything out as root and just chown it after
[05:10] <mirak> gnomefreak: bash: man: command not found
[05:10] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: it helps because you can be using commands that we give you
[05:10] <WoC> ty Howitzer
[05:11] <Howitzer> goes like a breeze :-)
[05:11] <jetscreamer> !umask
[05:11] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jetscreamer
[05:11] <jetscreamer> dum
[05:11] <Howitzer> although i'd like to  be able to adapt Ubuntu more to my needs
[05:11] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: ive tried it it says command not found :s
[05:11] <gnomefreak> dont man pages come with ubuntu install?
[05:11] <mirak> gnomefreak: ii  manpages                               2.17-1                                Manual pages about using a GNU/Linux system
[05:11] <mirak> they are installed
[05:11] <mirak> but there is a problem
[05:11] <p_k> ive got a problem with my network-card... from now to then it cut all connections and is shown as "disabled" in the configuration window - but ( of course.. ) when im tryin to enable eth1 in the controlcenter it is going to switch back to "disabled" after a few moments.. any ideas? :(
[05:12] <LinuxIdiot> on the command line ive switched to tty2 then typed irssi
[05:12] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: i havent been following along that closely with your issue all i know is X isnt working
[05:12] <gnomefreak> mirak: i dont know go into synaptic and try reinstalling them
[05:13] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: yes your right i guess that's why i can't get to the desktop
[05:13] <gnomefreak> there should be a package
[05:13] <mirak> gnomefreak: it's downloading
[05:13] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: did you ever have a desktop?
[05:13] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: Never :s
[05:13] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: what ubuntu install method did you use?
[05:13] <NET||abuse> ok, i have mounted a Fat32 paritiion at /FileShare, now it's owned by root, how can i make this and all content writeable by my default user???
[05:13] <LinuxIdiot> server
[05:13] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: that is why you dont have X
[05:14] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: i might be wrong on this but sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (should install the X dependencies also
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:14] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:14] <pudland> gnomefreak, is there an apt-get method to install x?
[05:14] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: ive installed ubuntu-desktop either
[05:15] <gnomefreak> pudland: yes a few depending on the package
[05:15] <prada> gnomefreak: ubuntu was funny that way ... apt-get install gnome-desktop doesn't install X
[05:15] <prada> I don't know if that's fixed in dapper
[05:15] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: log in and type startx what happens?
[05:15] <Artemis3> apt-get install ubundu-desktop ?
[05:15] <Artemis3> ubuntu
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ubuntu but yes
[05:15] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: black screen with green and blue striped
[05:15] <LinuxIdiot> stripes
[05:15] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: says it failed to oopen?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> ort crashed?
[05:16] <Zoroaster> from command line, what command does one run against a deb package to install it?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure the hardware adn drivers are correct if not make them correct and than try it again
[05:16] <helter> does anybody know if there is some sort of bug in the ubuntu sound support with recording?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> Zoroaster: dpkg - file.deb
[05:17] <gnomefreak> helter: not sure you can search bugs in launchpad.net
[05:17] <gnomefreak> dpkg -i file.deb
[05:17] <helter> can you guys record without any problems?
[05:17] <pudland> gnomefreak, what does the "-phigh.." command mean when doing reconfigure
[05:17] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: i did reconfigure the x and set up my graphic card to vesa
[05:18] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: but it crashed anyway
[05:18] <gnomefreak> pudland: its just another way of opening it im not sure what that parameter does
[05:18] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: what graphics card are you using?
[05:18] <scav> LinuxIdiot: what card you have?
[05:18] <Rawplayer> re
[05:18] <LinuxIdiot> Intel
[05:18] <pudland> gnomefreak, i think it resets to default
[05:18] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: did you install the intel drivers for it?
[05:18] <javiolo> !mp3
[05:18] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:18] <gnomefreak> pudland: i dont use it couldnt tell you
[05:19] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak:no
[05:19] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: good idea to
[05:19] <gnomefreak> anyone have the intel drivers site/wiki for him?
[05:20] <prada> dri.freedesktop.org
[05:20] <wizz> they're by default in distrib: i810
[05:20] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: the live cd worked fine
[05:20] <prada> no acceleration there ..
[05:20] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak:there was no errors nuthin
[05:20] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: live cd and install are differnt
[05:21] <pudland> gnomefreak, sudo apt-get -install --reinstall xserver-xorgult, could he try that?
[05:21] <wizz> lspci
[05:21] <Zoroaster> can java runtime be had through apt get?
[05:21] <pudland> gnomefreak, sudo apt-get -install --reinstall xserver-xorg, could he try that?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> pudland: he doesnt have drivers for his vard that not gonna help
[05:22] <Zoroaster> gnomefreak, by the way, thanks for your help
[05:22] <pudland> gnomefreak, right right
[05:22] <gnomefreak> Zoroaster: yw
[05:22] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: i tried RedHat once it recognised my graphic card
[05:22] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: redhat and ubuntu and suse and so on are all differetn on what they have installed
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell LinuxIdiot about hardware
[05:23] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: go to that site ubuntu sent you and find your card see if there is a place that tells you how to get drivers for it
[05:24] <LinuxIdiot> ok
[05:24] <mirak> # man
[05:24] <mirak> bash: man: command not found
[05:24] <mirak> that's odd
[05:24] <mirak> on dapper
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> what the heck is the command to launch the gnome printer config  tool. hmmmm
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> not using gnome at the moment. lol.
[05:26] <njan> gnome-cups-manager
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> aha! cups!  :P
[05:26] <_jason> LinuxIdiot: what step didn't work when you tried to use irssi?
[05:26] <tombs> hi all
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> i was looking for gnome-printer-manager :P
[05:26] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: its in the menu isnt it?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> im not using gnome.. so there is no gnome menu :P
[05:27] <gnomefreak> ahhhhh good reason
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> and that command aint found.. odd.. perhaps  i dont have cups installed yet. lol
[05:27] <gnomefreak> _jason: he needs drivers for his intel card i think (he said command not found for irssi)
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> aha - i dident have gnome-cups-manager insalled :P
[05:28] <_jason> he should be able to boot with vesa i think
[05:29] <gnomefreak> _jason: could he set it to intel and boot maybe? i dont know about intel cards all i know is he tried and it didnt work for one reason or another :(
[05:29] <tristanmike> i don't see it in the topic, are some the repos down? specifically the "ca." ones?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> tristanmike: dont know try the repos without a country code
[05:30] <tristanmike> that was my next try, thanx
[05:30] <gnomefreak> as of 8am i havent heard of them being down (est)
[05:31] <phiber_optic> should I install dapper dake flight4?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic: not recommended
[05:31] <phiber_optic> thanx gnomefreak
[05:32] <Zoroaster> what about .bin files?  how does install them?
[05:32] <LinuxIdiot> anyone have got an Intel Card and Installed Ubuntu With No Problems????
[05:32] <Alex_C> How do I see what my Network IP address is? and how do I change it?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Zoroaster: what .bin file?
[05:32] <Zoroaster> java run time
[05:32] <prada> LinuxIdiot: I have one yes ... it's an integrated on-board card ..
[05:32] <Zoroaster> gnomefreak, java runtime
[05:33] <gnomefreak> !java
[05:33] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:33] <Ramunas> hello
[05:33] <gnomefreak> Zoroaster: follow that link to install java
[05:33] <prada> LinuxIdiot: you want my xorg.conf ?
[05:33] <LinuxIdiot> prada: yes
[05:33] <LinuxIdiot> prada: lets give it a try
[05:33] <Alex_C> How do I change my Network IP Address?
[05:34] <Ng> Alex_C: system->administration->network
[05:34] <Alex_C> Ng, I tried that - but somehow Azureus still thinks i'm using my old IP ... even after restart
[05:35] <Ng> perhaps its in its config somewhere?
[05:35] <Ng> +'
[05:35] <gnomefreak> Alex_C: i dont use azureus but i would try the .conf file for it
[05:36] <pudland> LinuxIdiot, do you know what intel chipset?
[05:37] <[-DevinE-] > i need some help with cedega if anyone can help plz PRV me (on #cedega  nobody is on)
[05:38] <warthawg> if a man wanted to install acroread on ubuntu64, whut wood he doo?
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> When I run synaptic I get 1 package will be held back and not upgraded is there anyway to find out what this package is ?
[05:39] <Artemis3> that would be evil to use certain script which they don't like here ^^;
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> either via synaptic or aptitude / deselect
[05:39] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:39] <Artemis3> but acroread sucks anyway...
[05:40] <Ng> warthawg: you may well be able to just download it from adobe.com and install it
[05:40] <warthawg> Artemis3, what is a better way to read pdfs?
[05:40] <ramvi> Where should I read about using my Nokia N70 as a modem in linux?
[05:40] <Ng> ramvi: via bluetooth?
[05:40] <warthawg> Ng, thanks
[05:40] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: it normally depends on what packages are being held back and if you are using dapper than you might get that more times than not
[05:40] <ramvi> Ng, no, through the cable
[05:41] <ramvi> bluetooth isn't fast enough
[05:41] <Ng> ramvi: usb or serial cable?
[05:41] <ramvi> usb
[05:41] <mirak> what is launchpad ?
[05:41] <ramvi> Thanks for the support :)
[05:41] <Ng> ramvi: it should have created a /dev/ttyUSBX where X is a number for it. If you don't have anything else with usb serial ports it should be 0
[05:42] <Ng> ramvi: so anything that asks for a modem device can just use that
[05:42] <gnomefreak> !launchpad
[05:42] <ubotu> hmm... launchpad is a collection of services for projects in the open source universe - https://launchpad.net/
[05:42] <Ng> ramvi: but it's possible that the phone needs custom software to do it. I would seriously hope not though
[05:42] <ramvi> It does on windows..
[05:42] <roaet2> hello
[05:43] <ramvi> Okay, so I set up a dailup through the usb?
[05:43] <ramvi> Won't I need a driver?
[05:43] <Ng> ramvi: yep, if that file is there
[05:43] <Ng> ramvi: a tty device is a standard thing that anything can treat as a plain modem
[05:43] <roaet2> Can someone tell me the difference between Overwriting the windows bootloader, and not when reinstalling GRUB after installing windows?
[05:43] <ramvi> sweet
[05:44] <pudland> prada, what intel chipset do you have.  I have a dell with the same prob as linuxidiot
[05:44] <gnomefreak> windows will overwrite the mbr by default during win install
[05:44] <thebeanbag> how do i install programs for ubuntu if i dont have internet at home?
[05:44] <prada> pudland: i915 gl/gv
[05:44] <roaet2> yessir gnomefreak. what's the difference though?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> thebeanbag: the cd
[05:44] <thebeanbag> so all the software is on the install cd?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> roaet2: windows erases the mbr ubuntu doesnt erase it untill you tell it to
[05:45] <ramvi> Ng, there isn't any /dev/ttyusb at all
[05:45] <prada> pudland: there's generic driver "i810" for most intel chipsets ..
[05:45] <pudland> prada, mine would lock up at "starting hotplug...."
[05:45] <ramvi> Ng, Can't find anything on ttyu
[05:45] <gnomefreak> thebeanbag: not even close but without a net connection use synatpic and it will ask for cd put it in
[05:45] <roaet2> In my case, where I have windows and ubuntu on the same partition, should I just overwrite the MBR with grub?
[05:45] <ramvi> :(
[05:45] <gnomefreak> roaet2: follow the wiki on how to do it
[05:45] <gnomefreak> !grub
[05:45] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:45] <prada> pudland: anything in the logs ?
[05:45] <thebeanbag> gnomefreak: thanks
[05:46] <gnomefreak> thebeanbag: yw
[05:46] <roaet2> gnomefreak, I'm at the wiki. It has two different choices. I'm asking about which to do.
[05:46] <pudland> prada, not that i saw.
[05:46] <delire> anyone else have their fglrx.ko in a /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/volatile ?
[05:46] <ramvi> Ng, isn't there anyone before me who have wanted to use their 3g phone as a modem under linux?
[05:46] <Ng> ramvi: there probably is, perhaps some googling will turn something up?
[05:46] <delire> ramvi: you're an innovator and a leader.
[05:46] <ramvi> delire, hehe
[05:46] <MSch> hi, i've got a question: contains the skype page on the ubuntu Wiki everything there is?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> roaet2: do you have a live cd?
[05:46] <ramvi> Well, okay - thanks for your time =)
[05:47] <roaet2> Yessir.
[05:47] <delire> ramvi: now take thy charge and make clear passage for all that shall follow you1
[05:47] <pudland> prada, i put it in the closet and stuck with the micronpc, only set-back is it has rambus
[05:47] <p_k> i need help with my network card :( after enabling eth1 in kcontrol it is changing back to "disabled"
[05:47] <roaet2> Again it isn't a matter of how to do it. Just which I should do.
[05:47] <roaet2> I can either, "Using the LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" or "Using the LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader"
[05:47] <gnomefreak> roaet2: i would go that way but i havent done it so i dont know but i do know if done right both versions work
[05:47] <gnomefreak> you dont want weindows bootloader
[05:47] <roaet2> Ok then.
[05:47] <gnomefreak> you want grub
[05:48] <roaet2> That's what I wanted to know :)
[05:48] <ramvi> delire, I'm kind of a linux newbie
[05:48] <ramvi> delire, so I guess I won't be writing any drivers today
[05:48] <gnomefreak> roaet2: its windows bootloader that got you into this mess :)
[05:48] <Artemis3> aww
[05:48] <prada> pudland: hotplug does take a while sometimes .. I don't use a laptop, so don't know how it affects them too much.you could try disabling the hotplug init script ... at worse you have to manually load the modules
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> Can anyone tell me how to increase the number of virtual desktops in metacity (can't find anything in preferences)
[05:48] <roaet2> That mess hasn't happend yet, but it will. I need to install a different version of windows.
[05:49] <roaet2> Put XP, not Tablet XP ;D
[05:49] <_shad> vad kan vara felet, nr jag kr "sudo chown shad /home/shad/kurre" och fr "Operation not permitted"
[05:49] <pudland> prada, it was a desktop gx model.
[05:49] <gnomefreak> roaet2: xp wont detect grub but 2000 pro does when its in a good mood
[05:49] <bosco> how do i play an mp3 torrent that i downloaded
[05:50] <pudland> prada, im not into loading manually yet, i'll use it as a BIG paper weight
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bosco about mp3
[05:50] <feistel> hi
[05:50] <_shad> what Am I doing wrong when I run "sudo chown shad /home/shad/kurre" and recieves "Operation not permitted"
[05:50] <prada> pudland: hehe ...
[05:50] <feistel> I need help with Ubuntu installer
[05:51] <feistel> I custom them
[05:51] <gnomefreak> feistel: just ask or state your issue
[05:51] <_shad> can someone help me please?
[05:51] <feistel> I need modify some strings of a Ubuntu Installer, I need edit the Spanish templates of debconf in Ubuntu Installer, I need help for that
[05:52] <gnomefreak> _shad: if someone knows they will answer you if noone here can answer you try ubuntuforums.com
[05:52] <pudland> prada, you wouldn't happen to have rdram memory laying around would you?
[05:52] <equador> mayby from LIVECD i can remove and write files to ntfs partition ?
[05:52] <Ng> feistel: did you try asking in #ubuntu-devel?
[05:52] <pudland> prada, 512M goes for $300
[05:52] <gnomefreak> equador: it is not safe to write to ntfs
[05:52] <prada> pudland: I possibly do have some lying around ..
[05:53] <skaja> how do i get to the windows part of my hd with out using root
[05:53] <pudland> prada, would you part with it?? 512M+?
[05:53] <equador> but my windows is bad, and i must write files from ntfs to CD
[05:53] <gnomefreak> skaja: you dont
[05:53] <prada> I don't mind ... but how the heck am i supposed to get it to you ?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> prada: mail ???
[05:53] <gnomefreak> just a thought :(
[05:53] <prada> from India ? :)
[05:54] <prada> it's going to cost a bomb on shipping
[05:54] <pudland> prada, HAHAHAHA, good point!!!!
[05:54] <gnomefreak> prada: what does india not have a mail service?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> prada: good point
[05:54] <pudland> prada, thats my luck
[05:54] <grogoreo> hi
[05:54] <gnomefreak> more than the part is worth im sure
[05:54] <prada> nothing on ebay ?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> prada: what are we looking for?
[05:55] <prada> gnomefreak: RDRAM
[05:55] <grogoreo> is there a Subversion client (command line or GUI) which I could use to checkout source code? Like with CVS I can and it will download all the files for me
[05:55] <babsy> hallo+guten tag
[05:55] <prada> grogoreo: svn
[05:55] <Badm4n> hello
[05:55] <equador> s a programm who can write or remove files from ntfs ?
[05:55] <Badm4n> anyone here know about configuring cbq ?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell equador about ntfs
[05:56] <stingray|> !sshd
[05:56] <ubotu> it has been said that sshd is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[05:56] <gnomefreak> read your pm equador
[05:56] <erUSUL> grogoreo, of course install it via synaptic search for svn
[05:56] <thebeanbag> does palm life drive work with linux?
[05:56] <Badm4n> anyone here know about cbq ?
[05:57] <pudland> STUPID WEBSENSE, work has us blocked from everything!!!! :-(
[05:57] <grogoreo> prada and erUSUL, I've looked on Synaptic and it has:  avn-arch-mirror, svn-buildpackage, svncviewer, svn-devscripts, svn-workbench is it the workbench one?
[05:57] <grogoreo> prada and erUSUL, or just the whole 'subversion' package?
[05:57] <gnomefreak> viewer i would assume since you only viewing it but never used it
[05:57] <equador> gnomefreak thanks
[05:57] <gnomefreak> grogoreo: you might be better off that way
[05:58] <grogoreo> ok I'll install it all. Thanks guys
[05:58] <bosco> obuto
[05:58] <pudland> bye all
[05:59] <[-DevinE-] > gnomefreak=> can u help me with cedega when u havbe some spare time ?
[05:59] <erUSUL> grogoreo, subversion is the one you are looking for
[05:59] <grogoreo> erUSUL, thanks
[06:02] <gnomefreak> [-DevinE-] : i never touch it i dont use this pc for gamming but have you looked at the wiki on it yet?
[06:02] <[-DevinE-] > yeah i did ... no help
[06:02] <babsy> hallo+guten tag
[06:02] <[-DevinE-] > !de
[06:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:02] <equador> !lt
[06:02] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, equador
[06:03] <gnomefreak> [-DevinE-] :  try /j cedega
[06:03] <[-DevinE-] > i did ...i did find anything there ... beside dust (noone was active)
[06:04] <gnomefreak> [-DevinE-] : im not gonna be much help with that
[06:04] <gnomefreak> i left?
[06:04] <drgreborn> i have a wird problem on vlc could someone help me?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> wth did i leave
[06:04] <[-DevinE-] > oky 10x gnomefreak
[06:04] <gnomefreak> sorry [-DevinE-] 
[06:05] <Mastastealth> wuts up drgreborn?
[06:05] <[-DevinE-] > i'll do it the old fassion way : Trial and error
[06:05] <GlemSom> http://peecee.dk/?id=30392   <- anyone seen this before? (My card is not overclocked, and the GPU is about 45c)
[06:05] <drgreborn> Mastastealth: I opend a directory with my vids in it then when i closed vlc its stil playing the vids, i can hear them but vlc is closed. ><
[06:05] <gnomefreak> ok time for me to go
[06:06] <Mastastealth> does vlc minimize to dock?
[06:06] <drgreborn> Mastastealth: It's very creepy ^^;
[06:06] <Mastastealth> like amarok, w/ a lil icon next to ur volume control or sumthin?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Mastastealth,  not that ive seen
[06:07] <Mastastealth> ok, open up system monitor and see its' process is still running
[06:07] <Mastastealth> that is odd :X
[06:07] <skaja> i'm haveing trouble play my real media video files
[06:08] <Mastastealth> skaja: u have win32 codecs installed?
[06:08] <drgreborn> Mastastealth: I manual closed the wvlc in system monitor, why is this occouring?
[06:08] <drgreborn> shouldn't all processes stop when the vlc player is closed?
[06:09] <Mastastealth> not sure...try this, do the whole thing again, close it and have it play sound without it being open, and then open VLC again from menu
[06:09] <Mastastealth> perhaps it IS going to dock, and u cant see an icon?
[06:09] <drgreborn> i did
[06:09] <Mastastealth> i saw a problem like that happen to amarok on a friends pc...
[06:09] <drgreborn> when i try to play another vid the new vid in the new vlc plays with no sound
[06:09] <drgreborn> ><
[06:09] <Mastastealth> oh, so VLC opens up 2 different processes then..
[06:10] <drgreborn> O.o
[06:10] <ntumba> Hello everyone... Is it just me, or the backports are not working anymore?
[06:10] <Mastastealth> some apps (liek amarok) usually use 1 process, so if u open it from menu, it'll just open up the one u hav e running
[06:10] <Hoxzer> shouldn't I be able to watch video files directly from ssh shared files?
[06:11] <Badm4n> anyone here know about cbq ?
[06:11] <drgreborn> erm when i close the player it stills plays the vid but with no vid justteh sound
[06:11] <drgreborn> like some kind of ghost
[06:11] <SoulForge> Greetings
[06:11] <drgreborn> Allo
[06:11] <Mastastealth> minimize or actually exitting the program?
[06:11] <drgreborn> exit
[06:11] <SoulForge> unbuntu is broke on my system :(
[06:11] <ntumba> :(
[06:11] <misfit_toy> how can I tell which version of PHP is installed when I apt-get libapache-mod-php4 ?
[06:11] <misfit_toy> is it 4 or 4.1 or 4.2, etc...
[06:11] <drgreborn> wxvlc is still in my system monitor
[06:12] <wiFi> i use kppp program on ubuntu
[06:12] <drgreborn> even when i close the vlc player
[06:12] <SoulForge> When it loads to the login screen all I see is a jumbled mass of colors
[06:12] <drgreborn> it doesn't actually kill
[06:12] <wiFi> i have error 1 when i try to connect my nokia phone at internet
[06:12] <Ng> misfit_toy: dpkg -l php4   should tell you
[06:12] <misfit_toy> Ng, thanks
[06:12] <SoulForge> any suggestions?
[06:13] <Sirin> 
[06:13] <wiFi> The pppd daemon died unexpectedly!
[06:13] <wiFi> Exit status: 1
[06:13] <Mastastealth> Soulforge: what gfx card u got?
[06:13] <Sirin> 
[06:13] <SoulForge> 6600 GT
[06:13] <SoulForge> AGP version
[06:13] <equador> where i can find info about fx5200 tv-out ?
[06:13] <Mastastealth> drgreborn: does this occur in other video players? im googling for this problem but perhaps a temp solution is not to use vlc ;)
[06:13] <bubba> Good Morning :)
[06:13] <Mastastealth> SoulForge: you have nvidia drivers installed?
[06:13] <fulhack> Hey guys and gals. I just threw ubuntu 5.10 onto my thinkpad R51, very nice. My question is about OSD. is there any way to display info about screen lightening, and audio on the screen, ad i press those buttons?
[06:13] <SoulForge> I can't get that far Mabus06
[06:14] <SoulForge> err
[06:14] <wiFi> anyone use gprs modem?
[06:14] <SoulForge> Mastastealth
[06:14] <drgreborn> Mastastealth: yeah I think so to, maybe there was an installation error or something :)
[06:14] <jcooper> does anyone know where i can find some good gconf python API docs?
[06:14] <SoulForge> Whatever is installed durning the Unbuntu install is what I have
[06:14] <fulhack> SoulForge, I have that card, whats the problem?
[06:14] <pr3t0r1an0> do it
[06:14] <bubba> does wifi using ndiswrapper need acpi ?
[06:14] <ntumba> I think the backports are dead. I can't upgrade rythmbox :(
[06:14] <roaet2> fulhack, most likely no. you could check the synaptic package installer for thinkpad.
[06:14] <SoulForge> fulhack: When I get to the login screen after install all I see is a jumbled mass of colors
[06:14] <fulhack> roaet2, Will do, thanks.
[06:15] <wiFi> ghe sborro
[06:15] <Mastastealth> Soulforge: its quite easy to do, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28Nvidia%29 has some info
[06:15] <SoulForge> Mastastealth I don't even know the root password
[06:15] <roaet2> holy crap
[06:15] <Mastastealth> lol
[06:15] <roaet2> XP tablet found my linux os
[06:15] <Mastastealth> its the password u set when u first installed :)
[06:15] <fulhack> SoulForge, Ouch. never seen that. I woul try the nvidia drivers. and reset the xorg config if that doesn't do the trick.
[06:15] <SoulForge> and I will say again
[06:15] <roaet2> when it wrote the mbr
[06:15] <SoulForge> I can't see anything
[06:15] <SoulForge> its just a random mass of colors
[06:16] <Mastastealth> ok Soul, go to a console, hold Ctrl-Alt-F1
[06:16] <themachine> what can play shoutcast radio?
[06:16] <SoulForge> I can't modify the xorg.conf file without the root password
[06:16] <foampeace> what do i do when my game cant find this file? libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[06:16] <Mastastealth> themachine: Rythmbox should be able to I believe
[06:16] <drgreborn> SoulForge: the root password is your account password
[06:16] <SoulForge> which the install never asked me for
[06:16] <SoulForge> tried that
[06:16] <xordae> SoulForge, use sudo pico xorg.conf  ..the password is your personal one
[06:16] <bubba> I have breezy for amd64 almost working on my acer 5002 laptop, but the wifi isnt working, and Ive disable acpi (was generating a lot of log files),
[06:16] <fulhack> SoulForge, Can't you tab to a console, sudo su and go on an editing spree?
[06:16] <Mastastealth> foampeace: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[06:17] <SoulForge> I can go to the console yes
[06:17] <Ng> foampeace: install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[06:17] <SoulForge> that works
[06:17] <bubba> breezy i386 did work, but its not ideal for a turion64 cpu
[06:17] <SoulForge> switches from the jumbled mess to it
[06:17] <Mastastealth> doh! lunchtime, brb guys
[06:17] <harshy> anyone notice that when ethernet is activated the system lags on dapper-current?
[06:17] <SoulForge> my network card doesn't seem to work ethier
[06:17] <SoulForge> (durning install it didn't work)
[06:18] <SoulForge> and on the live dvd version it didn't work
[06:18] <harshy> I can use xchat and gaim but cant ping and gnome will not work if the thing is activated
[06:18] <Badm4n> anyone here know about cbq ? help pls about confiuring rule on cbq
[06:18] <Badm4n> anyone here know about cbq ? help pls about confguring rule on cbq
[06:18] <harshy> ya works fine on the cd4 live
[06:18] <drgreborn> SoulForge: what eth card are you using? is this a pc? is it onboard?
[06:18] <SoulForge> pc
[06:18] <SoulForge> onboard
[06:18] <themachine> k, I found xmms works with shoutcast stations.
[06:18] <Ng> Badm4n: that's a bit in-depth for here generally
[06:18] <SoulForge> umm
[06:18] <foampeace> Ng:  thanks
[06:18] <prada> Badm4n: it would be better to ask on another channel
[06:18] <harshy> onborad nvnet here
[06:18] <SoulForge> ULi PC Fast Ethernet Card
[06:19] <harshy> tried diff kernels and the nvnet and forcedeth mods
[06:19] <harshy> same effect
[06:19] <drgreborn> SoulForge: is it part of moboard or a card?
[06:19] <prada> Badm4n: I used it before ... quite a while back , so I don't remember
[06:19] <SoulForge> motherboard
[06:19] <Badm4n> prada : where i can ask that ? | Ng : where the room talk about that ?
[06:19] <drgreborn> odd
[06:19] <ShereKhan> Has anybody done a Ubuntu server install on a headless machine only using a null modem cable and/or SSH?
[06:19] <harshy> this is odd
[06:19] <prada> Badm4n: try this http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bandwidth-Limiting-HOWTO.html
[06:19] <harshy> no wierd kernel messages or syslog shit
[06:19] <bubba> where is a good place to get help with wifi on ubuntu breezy for amd64 ?
[06:19] <Ng> ShereKhan: I debootstrapped it onto a machine with just ssh once
[06:20] <ShereKhan> Ng: "Debootstrapped"?
[06:20] <Ng> bubba: if the driver uses ndiswrapper it won't work on the amd64 version afaik, but otherwise it ought to. perhaps you found a bug
[06:20] <bubba> Ive read many many web pages, tried many many things... still not working :(
[06:20] <Ng> ShereKhan: it's a quick&dirty way of installing debian-like OSes
[06:21] <SoulForge> im not worried about the network card as much as my video problem
[06:21] <bubba> Ng, really, i read about others using it with my laptop, and breezy 64! there are 2 drivers, one is 32 bit, other is 64 bit i guess...
[06:21] <delire> bubba: perhaps best to go with an i386 install on the amd64 box..
[06:21] <Badm4n> btw : is 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.254 <-- can be write 192.168.1.0/16 ?
[06:22] <ShereKhan> Ng: The machine has no OS, no keyboard and no monitor. Can I get SSH up and running on it using _only_ a boot floppy and/or CD?
[06:22] <bubba> Ng, but they didnt work for me :(
[06:22] <Ng> Badm4n: no, /24
[06:22] <Artemis3> : thats overkill, use /24
[06:22] <drgreborn> SoulForge: did you try to install any graphics drivers by the way or is it the deafult driver now?
[06:22] <SoulForge> default
[06:22] <SoulForge> I can't see anything to do that
[06:22] <drgreborn> this is a fresh install?
[06:22] <Ng> ShereKhan: you could boot a CD that will start ssh and so on - that's roughly what I did
[06:22] <SoulForge> ys
[06:22] <SoulForge> yes
[06:22] <SoulForge> it doesn't do it durning the live dvd version
[06:22] <Ng> ShereKhan: if the ubuntu live cd doesn't then something like knoppix probably will
[06:22] <SoulForge> which is why I don't understand what its doing now :(
[06:22] <bubba> delire, I did.. and i got everything working... but i wanted to use amd64, and i did manage to get everything but the wifi !
[06:23] <stingray|> !nvidia
[06:23] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:23] <ShereKhan> Ng: Wont they need hands on configuration before sshd is up and running?
[06:23] <Badm4n> ty
[06:23] <drgreborn> I think there was an error during installation, some of my frens using that card has it working out the box. You said there was also errors when installing? chances are the dvd was not burt properly. :(
[06:23] <Ng> ShereKhan: possibly - you could craft one that has the right details in, or use dhcp
[06:23] <SoulForge> are you refering to me?
[06:24] <bubba> since im soooo close, i'd really like to get it working... instead of wiping the sytem out and installing i386...
[06:24] <drgreborn> SoulForge: yeah. I got it last time to, on a ti4200.
[06:24] <SoulForge> I've done the isntall twice with the same results
[06:24] <drgreborn> SoulForge: using the same dvd?
[06:24] <Stormx2> Hey everyone!
[06:24] <Stormx2> Back on ubuntu :)
[06:24] <harshy> the ti4200 should work out of box using the nv module
[06:24] <SoulForge> yeahhhh
[06:24] <drgreborn> SoulForge: burn a new cd/dvd
[06:25] <Stormx2> hey does anyone know a good way of limiting my outgoing connection speed?
[06:25] <SoulForge> http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bandwidth-Limiting-HOWTO.html
[06:26] <Webx> Anyone knows what the export command do to the environment? why not just use NAME=NEWNAME?
[06:26] <Ng> Webx: export is used to modify the environment
[06:27] <trappist> export VAR=value
[06:27] <Ng> export FOO="bar"
[06:27] <snowblink> Webx, help export
[06:27] <bubba> Webx, if you need a variable to work with just one program, no need to export the variable. if you use it outside the program,  export it.
[06:28] <Ng> it has to do with whether or not you are modifying the current environment for all child processes or not
[06:28] <Zoroaster> what is fakeroot?
[06:28] <Ng> !info fakeroot
[06:28] <ubotu> fakeroot: (Gives a fake root environment), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.5.1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 88 kB, Installed size: 332 kB
[06:29] <Ng> hmm, not the best description ever ;)
[06:29] <Webx> oh... think i got it.. thanks
[06:29] <Zoroaster> why use fakeroot instead of sudo?
[06:29] <Ng> Zoroaster: generally you use fakeroot when you are doing something like building a package so it happens in a self-contained little world and doesn't mess around with the main system
[06:29] <funkyHat> Zoroaster, fake root is _fake_
[06:30] <Ng> ie it's for when you *don't*U want something to be root, but think it is
[06:30] <Ng> -U
[06:30] <Zoroaster> ok, I understand
[06:31] <klippo> question. running "w" or "who" doesnt display any user thats logged in dapper. anyone know why?
[06:31] <roaet2> because secretly you're not logged in
[06:31] <[-DevinE-] > can anyone help me with cedega + Counter strike
[06:31] <Stormx2> Are there any alternatives to GAIM? I *really* hate gaim. Anything a little more like Paint Shop pro or Photoshop?
[06:31] <Stormx2> not gaim
[06:31] <klippo> roaet2: it works when booted. and for a while. then suddenly it stops
[06:31] <roaet2> ...
[06:31] <Stormx2> GIMP!
[06:31] <roaet2> you mean GIMP.
[06:31] <Stormx2> sorry
[06:31] <Stormx2> :P
[06:31] <roaet2> lol
[06:31] <Stormx2> eek
[06:31] <Stormx2> i've got a gaim problem too im getting confused lol
[06:32] <roaet2> gaim has problems?
[06:32] <roaet2> how's that?
[06:32] <roaet2> gaim has no prolems.
[06:32] <Stormx2> oh nevermind. I was figuring out how to install smiley sets
[06:32] <roaet2> gaim is perfect
[06:32] <Stormx2> lol
[06:32] <luite> Stormx2: you can try krita, but there is no 'professional' image editing application yet
[06:32] <Stormx2> luite: OK :)
[06:32] <Stormx2> luite: Is it in the repos?
[06:32] <roaet2> i wish photoshop was on linux.
[06:32] <roaet2> only reason why i'd get a mac
[06:32] <roaet2> so sad
[06:33] <asterisk99> Question for anyone: Is there an app like putty so I can connect to term session on another computer??
[06:33] <klippo> use crossover office
[06:33] <Morfosomo> Stormx2,  if you really really want to have photoshop on linux try wine
[06:33] <Stormx2> Morfosomo: It keeps bloody uninstalling itself lol
[06:33] <roaet2> or VMWare
[06:33] <Sirin> WINE doesn't support Photoshop CS 2
[06:33] <Stormx2> Yeah
[06:33] <Stormx2> I have PS7
[06:33] <no_wifi_yet> Stormx2, theres a different gui for gimp for folks that like photoshop...
[06:33] <luite> Stormx2: it's a kde app, so will probably get some libs
[06:33] <Stormx2> I also have PSP 7 bought! thats right :P not pirated
[06:33] <luite> Stormx2: but it's included, package is krita, it's part of koffice
[06:34] <Morfosomo> i have photoshop running on wine with all its plugins enabled, id like to think it actually runs faster on lin
[06:34] <roaet2> photoshop gui.. hmm i'll check that out
[06:34] <billytwowilly> holy carp.. I can't remember the command to intelligently sync things... r something I think.
[06:34] <billytwowilly> rsync!
[06:34] <billytwowilly> sweet
[06:34] <Stormx2> Morfosomo: What version? 7?
[06:34] <roaet2> ...
[06:34] <Morfosomo> yup
[06:34] <Stormx2> I lost the installer for 7 >_<
[06:34] <no_wifi_yet> roaet2, i think its called gimpshop...
[06:34] <Stormx2> oh well
[06:34] <roaet2> you can rsync in ubuntu?
[06:35] <stingray|> I'm using the guide to installing the newest nvidia drivers, but i'm having some trouble. I get an error when starting X : "Failed to load module "glx" (a required submodule could not be loaded)" and "failed to load "nvidia" (module does not exist). What to do?
[06:35] <Stormx2> Oooh Im getting another 512mb of ram tomorow :D
[06:35] <SoulForge> to add to what ?
[06:36] <xordae> stingray, it sounds as if you didn't install all of it..
[06:36] <Stormx2> SoulForge: Was that aimed at me?
[06:36] <no_wifi_yet> the only thing holding me from using breezy 64 is this damn wifi card in my laptop. if i cant get it working , i gotta go back to i386 :( help me get it working please.. someone!
[06:36] <roaet2> bwahahahha
[06:36] <SoulForge> yes
[06:36] <roaet2> tablet on my laptop
[06:36] <roaet2> HOT
[06:37] <Stormx2> SoulForge: 256mb
[06:37] <SoulForge> lol
[06:37] <SoulForge> RAM: Used: 367/1024MB (35% Load)
[06:37] <Stormx2> It means I might actually get XP or Longhorn or something
[06:37] <stingray|> xordae, yeah... however, i'm quite sure i did. Followed the guide exactly, and the installer gave me no errors.
[06:37] <Stormx2> SoulForge: Bastard :P
[06:37] <SoulForge> hehe
[06:37] <Stormx2> I swear PS CS2 is like... aaah!
[06:37] <SoulForge> CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+, 2.40 GHz, 512 KB (9% Load)
[06:37] <xordae> i see in my synaptic.. nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-settings
[06:37] <Stormx2> It takes about 15 minutes to boot up
[06:37] <Stormx2> os[Linux 2.6.12-10-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ @ 1.40GHz]  mem[Physical : 250MB, 35.7% free]  disk[Total : 110.84GB, 28.10% Free]  video[10de:002d]  sound[ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI] 
[06:38] <SoulForge> yikes
[06:38] <SoulForge> my last processor was a 3200+
[06:38] <Mastastealth> xord, did u do the enable command after ur nvidia install?
[06:38] <SoulForge> XP
[06:38] <Stormx2> SoulForge: I might get onbe like that, cept a Seperon (or whatever they are called)
[06:38] <Stormx2> And not dual core...
[06:38] <SoulForge> eww
[06:38] <SoulForge> get a dual core
[06:38] <SoulForge> they are sexy
[06:38] <Stormx2> How much are they tho?
[06:38] <Mastastealth> *Sempron ;)
[06:38] <Stormx2> Yeah thats it
[06:38] <Stormx2> :)
[06:38] <SoulForge> the 3800+ just dropped below 300 :)
[06:38] <Stormx2> lol
[06:38] <Stormx2> dollars?
[06:38] <SoulForge> I got mine for 322
[06:39] <SoulForge> yes
[06:39] <spikebike> soulforge a 3800x2 = 2.0 GHz
[06:39] <spikebike> (unless oclocked)
[06:39] <stingray|> xordae, i'm trying to install the driver from the nvida.com site, since i'm having some trouble with the one you're able to install via synaptic
[06:39] <Mastastealth> might wanna wait as AMD's new M2 socket will come out, with a lot of new dual-cores
[06:39] <no_wifi_yet> ive got a turion... first amd cpu since my 5x86 133 running at 160 :)
[06:39] <SoulForge> and
[06:39] <SoulForge> ?
[06:39] <Mastastealth> and DDR2-800 ^_^
[06:39] <SoulForge> Mastastealth its called AM2 now
[06:39] <SoulForge> renamed
[06:39] <Mastastealth> oh ok, i thought it was the other way around, WAS AM2, now M2
[06:39] <Sonderblade> is it possible to install xgl side by side with normal stable xorg?
[06:39] <Stormx2> Really... Processers are too expensive for me. Im 14 with no job >_<
[06:40] <Webx> is tere a different name for PS1 in ubuntu? (deb)?
[06:40] <Mastastealth> Sonder: yes
[06:40] <Stormx2> Ima get a 21" or maybe a 23" monitor :P
[06:40] <SoulForge> 14 eh?
[06:40] <Mastastealth> webx: PS1? as in playstation?
[06:40] <SoulForge> I respect your typing abilities
[06:40] <Stormx2> Yeah
[06:40] <Sonderblade> Mastastealth: how? any link?
[06:40] <xordae> stingray.. i'm a beginner myself.. but dpkg usually noticed missing dependencies, did you use that?
[06:40] <Stormx2> SoulForge: hahaha!
[06:40] <Stormx2> ill try krita now
[06:40] <Ng> Webx: as in the bash prompt? no it's still just bash and still just $PS1
[06:40] <Webx> Mastastealth: lol no.. it is use to set the prompt look in redhat for exaple
[06:41] <Webx> Ng: how do i change it?
[06:41] <stingray|> xordae, as i said, i do not want to use dpkg for installing these drivers
[06:41] <SoulForge> spikebike my 3800+ is overclocked
[06:41] <Stormx2> lol krita is funny :P
[06:41] <Ng> Webx: export PS1="whatever"
[06:41] <Mastastealth> sonder: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772&highlight=XGL+breezy
[06:41] <Webx> thanks
[06:41] <stingray|> since they are having some nasty bugs
[06:41] <SoulForge> When I replace my powersupply im gonna up it to 2.6
[06:41] <srid> any deb for gtk2-emacs-cvs with anti-aliased fonts?
[06:42] <Sonderblade> Mastastealth: thanks
[06:42] <Stormx2> oh im actually impressed with krita
[06:42] <Stormx2> I could actually splice with this.
[06:42] <xordae> stingray, that is prolly the problem then.. if you use neither apt-get nor dpkg.. that means you'd have to track down dependencies manually
[06:42] <Mastastealth> yup, and use this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267& for extra info
[06:43] <SoulForge> I'm gonna wait to burn another unbuntu DVD when the next version comes out
[06:43] <diGVargur>  hello does some one knows what is the ip addres of irc.simnet.is ?
[06:43] <SoulForge> whenever that may be :)
[06:43] <SoulForge> 194.105.224.50
[06:43] <Mastastealth> April
[06:43] <jbroome> diGVargur: host irc.simnet.is should tell you
[06:43] <diGVargur> thanks
[06:43] <ubuntu> sup yall
[06:43] <stingray|> xordae, that's why i'm asking here. I do not think it's a dependency problem however.
[06:43] <SoulForge> Mastastealth sweet
[06:43] <SoulForge> birthday gift for me!
[06:44] <Mastastealth> :D
[06:44] <martinjh99> Does anyone know if Easy Ubuntu will work on Kubuntu or will I have try it and see??
[06:44] <[-DevinE-] > easy ubuntu ... what is that ?
[06:44] <SoulForge> i saPort publik edacaton
[06:45] <martinjh99> Devine> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[06:45] <martinjh99> Its a script which allows you to install things like Java and mp3 decoders
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> heh..
[06:45] <xordae> stingray, I can't help you there, sorry.. but it sounds as if the drivers from the nvidia site have a chunk missing to get 'em working..
[06:46] <mirak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9452 I am trying to build compiz and got this errors when doing autogen.sh
[06:46] <drgreborn> question, is there any file comparator+meager that has a GUI interface? diff is commandline.
[06:47] <Stormx2> I don't like krita :(
[06:47] <stingray|> xordae, i dont think so... But thanks anyway
[06:47] <Stormx2> Ill try install PSP
[06:48] <srid> any deb for gtk2-emacs-cvs with anti-aliased fonts?
[06:50] <Mastastealth> drgreborn: easydiff?
[06:50] <Mastastealth> kdiff3, imediff2
[06:50] <colm> grrr... why does gnome terminal have New Tab in the File menu, not the tab menu!
[06:50] <Mastastealth> looking at ubuntu packages
[06:50] <Mastastealth> tkdiff
[06:50] <dooglus> colm: one word: "useability" :)
[06:50] <drgreborn> MastaStealth: is it in the repository?
[06:51] <Mastastealth> yup
[06:52] <concept10> colm, just press shift+ctrl+t
[06:52] <no_wifi_yet> Feb 27 09:48:23 localhost loadndisdriver: loadndisdriver: main(629): version 1.1 doesn't match driver version 0
[06:52] <no_wifi_yet> what does that mean?
[06:52] <Mastastealth> ur drivers dont math? :D
[06:52] <Mastastealth> *match
[06:53] <colm> concept10, I know but even that's different from other apps (i.e. firefox) - am I alone thinking it's an anomaly?
[06:53] <no_wifi_yet> which drivers?
[06:53] <Mastastealth> some ndis driver ur rying to use?
[06:53] <Stormx2> Who here has WINE installed/
[06:53] <no_wifi_yet> im trying a driver, how can it not match?
[06:53] <Mastastealth> Storm: me
[06:53] <Stormx2> Mastastealth: What did you use to configure it?
[06:54] <Martin78> Hilarious: http://digg.com/links/24_ways_to_classify_women_in_computer_terms
[06:54] <concept10> colm, I just use the keyboard shortcut because normally your hand are on the keyboard anyway
[06:54] <Mastastealth> winecfg
[06:54] <Stormx2> OK
[06:54] <Stormx2> Thanks
[06:55] <colm> concept10, well funnily enough, I keep pressing alt+b...  time to relearn that keystoke!
[06:55] <epinephrine> hi. is there a peice of software that is similar to windows' wireless configuration dialog or any plans to build such a feature into ubuntu?
[06:56] <Mastastealth> dapper will have a network manager
[06:56] <Mastastealth> there is a guide to build one with wpa support
[06:56] <concept10> colm, control alt t is the same for firefox tabs also
[06:56] <Mastastealth> or u can install from repos with some basic WEP i believe
[06:56] <Mastastealth> *last 3 for you epine
[06:56] <iskywalker> hi!
[06:56] <colm> concept10, just ctrl+t for firefox
[06:57] <concept10> hmm.
[06:57] <Stormx2> anyone used the IEs4Linux thing? its pretty neat.
[06:57] <epinephrine> it's mostly a graphical way to connect to a wpa network I'm after, Mastastealth
[06:57] <iskywalker> i have some problems installing ubuntu my cd drive hangs after some minutes and has erro (tempeturar i think) does someone know where i should look for a solution?
[06:57] <drgreborn> MastaStealth:its not listed in the applicatiosn menu after install.
[06:57] <Howitzer> ehh
[06:57] <concept10> Mastastealth, are you on dapper?  NetworkManager is weird to me.  Its not like the nm-applet
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> Hi , Can anyone tell me how to increase the number of virtual desktops I have in gnome (workspace switcher) I want to increase it from 4 to eight - Thanks
[06:58] <Mastastealth> drgreborn: u can still run it from command line tho right?
[06:58] <Mastastealth> negative concept10, I use breezy
[06:58] <Howitzer> i have a weird problem with rhythmbox, it won't play any file
[06:58] <drgreborn> nope
[06:58] <Mastastealth> epine: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125150&
[06:58] <Mastastealth> theres that guide
[06:58] <Mastastealth> i havent personally tried it yet, but i'll get to it ^_^
[06:59] <epinephrine> excellent, thanks
[06:59] <Howitzer> i can load any file i want, but doubleclicking it or pressing play doesn't make rhythmbox play the damn file
[06:59] <wdh> Howitzer, any file? or just no mp3 files?
[06:59] <Howitzer> i've tried .ogg, .wma, .mp3,..
[06:59] <Mastastealth> Howitzer: what format?
[06:59] <Mastastealth> -.-
[06:59] <roaet2> why does the live cd run faster than my ubuntu install?
[06:59] <roaet2> =\
[06:59] <Howitzer> i reinstalled it from the cd and from the net
[06:59] <wdh> Howitzer, next time try asking it all in one line..  :S saves us the guessing
[06:59] <Howitzer> yes sorry
[07:00] <Howitzer> but i had to think about what i was supposed to write :D
[07:00] <Mastastealth> drgreborn: check wut exactly the package installed, there u should find the name of the program to launch
[07:00] <wdh> enter is not a punctuation mark :P
[07:00] <Mastastealth> which one did u install?
[07:00] <Mastastealth> roaet: is that even possible :P
[07:00] <Howitzer> BUT, this problem only ocurred when installing and later on, removing amarok
[07:00] <drgreborn> easydiff and imediff2
[07:00] <wdh> Howitzer, rhythmbox on dapper?
[07:00] <Howitzer> maybe i removed a vital part of the engine
[07:01] <Howitzer> no, breezy
[07:01] <nickrud> Howitzer: you probably lost the file association; right click an mp3, select properties, and the open with tab
[07:01] <Howitzer> no no
[07:01] <Howitzer> i have it when i load files into the playlist
[07:01] <colm> is the chap on tonight who asked yesterday how to view largest directories in filesystem?  yesterday I gave a script hack, today I discovered filelight!
[07:02] <Mastastealth> and "easydiff" and "imediff2" dont launch anything?
[07:02] <drgreborn> imediff2 in console require me to supply the two file sn the console
[07:02] <drgreborn> no idea on hwo to launcd easydiff though
[07:03] <SaucE`Xwave> Can someone point me in the dirrection of the lsit of software included in the latest release
[07:03] <Mastastealth> check the easydiff package in synaptic, check to see if it installed anything into /usr/bin/ or sumthin
[07:03] <Mastastealth> Sauce: in Dapper or Breezy?
[07:03] <me> okay..obliterated the system hostname. tried to reset using recovery console but to no avail. found correct file (/etc/hostname), but am unable to edit. what's next?
[07:03] <Goshawk> what is the codec to read m4a files on dapper?
[07:03] <SaucE`Xwave> I believe I downloaded Breezy
[07:03] <Goshawk> (gstreamer-0.10)
[07:04] <Howitzer> oh crap
[07:04] <Mastastealth> Sauce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes#head-91c830a0abc741adaf75a73720ee2a9ed6a60f7e
[07:04] <SaucE`Xwave> I hope I have more success getting my wireless card to work under ubuntu
[07:05] <drgreborn> MastaStealth:its foundit thanks. no icons though  :P
[07:05] <Mastastealth> ^_^
[07:05] <drgreborn> any nice isons i could use?
[07:05] <asterisk99> Question for anyone: Is there an app like 'putty' built into the std distro of ubunto so I can connect to a term session on another computer??
[07:05] <spikebike> yeah it's called ssh
[07:06] <mjr> asterisk99, on Linux, usually the command line ssh is used
[07:06] <SaucE`Xwave> I am guessing Ubuntu comes with ndiswrapper?
[07:06] <mjr> asterisk99, (though there is a port of putty, but I don't know anyone who actually uses it...)
[07:06] <mjr> SaucE`Xwave, yeah
[07:06] <drgreborn> there is the terminal client in applications->internet->remote client
[07:06] <asterisk99> Yeah ---- I tried SSH, but it opens up folders, not a terminal session
[07:06] <Howitzer> aaargh
[07:07] <Howitzer> i cant unmount my disc
[07:07] <Mastastealth> asterisk: in a terminal type in ssh ip.of.ssh.pc to conenct to it
[07:07] <Mastastealth> and u'll get it like Putty
[07:07] <Howitzer> it's busy
[07:07] <Howitzer> but it isnt busy at all
[07:07] <drgreborn> asterisk99: did you try the terminal client which is in the application menu?
[07:07] <Howitzer> can i do a force mount?
[07:07] <Mastastealth> yea
[07:07] <roaet2> holy crap
[07:08] <me> reset a hostname anyone?
[07:08] <roaet2> i reinstalled grub
[07:08] <roaet2> and now I cant get to windows
[07:08] <roaet2> lmfao
[07:08] <Howitzer> lol
[07:08] <drgreborn> O.o
[07:08] <Howitzer> it's funny because it isn't :D
[07:08] <Mastastealth> do u know if windows blew up or not? :D
[07:08] <SaucE`Xwave> anyone have this installed on a Dell Laptop?
[07:09] <Mastastealth> if it didnt u can manually add the entry for it
[07:09] <asterisk99> drgreborn - Yes. Trying that now... problem: it wants me to login as root (It's another ubunu machine)
[07:09] <Mastastealth> yes Sauce, i have an Inspiron 9300 running Breezy
[07:09] <roaet2> blah
[07:09] <Howitzer> Heeey wait
[07:09] <SaucE`Xwave> what wireless card?
[07:09] <Howitzer> i think i'm on to something here
[07:09] <roaet2> i'm just gonna screw with my grub.lst
[07:09] <roaet2> and hopw for the best
[07:09] <roaet2> hope that is
[07:09] <Howitzer> how can i put my sound to ALSA or OSS or whatever?
[07:09] <asterisk99> SaucE'Xwave: I have it running on a 6 yr old Dell Latitude
[07:09] <Howitzer> i did it before, but forgot how
[07:10] <drgreborn> asterisk99: the other machine wanst you to log in as root? or the machin eyour running the terminal?
[07:10] <asterisk99> SaucE'Xwave: Good use for the old boat anchor
[07:10] <SaucE`Xwave> I have a XPS GEN 1
[07:10] <xordae> Howitzer, in system->prefs->multimedia system selector
[07:10] <asterisk99> drgreborn - no - other ubuntu machine
[07:10] <me> okay, i give up
[07:10] <SaucE`Xwave> Which has a TrueMobile 1300
[07:11] <Mastastealth> :X
[07:11] <SaucE`Xwave> havent been able to get the wireless to work under FC so I am giving this ago tonight
[07:11] <WiFi> firestarter block my internet connection
[07:11] <drgreborn> ok.. I cant help you there.
[07:11] <Mastastealth> i upgraded (or downgraded) to the Intel wireless for better compatiblity ^_^
[07:11] <scav> SaucE`Xwave: never had problems with dell wireless' and ubuntu
[07:11] <SaucE`Xwave> ah
[07:11] <SaucE`Xwave> I want to get this one working if at all possible
[07:11] <SaucE`Xwave> cant really afford to get another one
[07:12] <amphi> Mastastealth: did you see the ipw2200 driver is getting master mode?
[07:12] <Mastastealth> :O wuts that do?
[07:12] <SaucE`Xwave> is the install as simple a FC install?
[07:12] <Bean> What can I use to download "podcasts" ?
[07:12] <rambo3> no
[07:12] <amphi> Mastastealth: lets the laptop act as an AP
[07:12] <Bean> To subscrube to "podcasts"  *
[07:12] <Mastastealth> truemobile doesnt seem to supported Sauce :( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:12] <Howitzer> rofl
[07:13] <ramses9167> salut :)
[07:13] <Mastastealth> amphi: cool! :D
[07:13] <SaucE`Xwave> well damn
[07:13] <asterisk99> drgreborn - got it ... I did sudo ssh and it wanted me to login as root ... I did a plain ssh and it allowed me to login with my regular id
[07:13] <Howitzer> turns out i selected the wrong sound system
[07:13] <amphi> !fr
[07:13] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[07:13] <Mastastealth> check the link as there appears to be some Debian instructions
[07:13] <Mastastealth> may work
[07:13] <Kurt```> hi
[07:13] <ramses9167> est ce que quelqu'un pourrait m'aider pour mon probleme de webcam avec easy webcam 2 svp ??
[07:13] <WiFi> kppp works on ubuntu?
[07:14] <Mastastealth> but it definitely wont be one of em outta-da-box supported chips
[07:14] <SaucE`Xwave> does that mean not at all or that I will have to play with it some
[07:14] <amphi> Mastastealth: ipw2200-ap.sf.net
[07:14] <rambo3> !webcam
[07:14] <ubotu> well, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[07:14] <Mastastealth> sauce: it MAY be possible with a LOT of playing
[07:14] <ryanakca> how do you make .deb in dapper?
[07:14] <SaucE`Xwave> err
[07:14] <WiFi> kppp works on ubuntu?
[07:14] <Mastastealth> wifi: yea, probably, simple apt-get
[07:14] <SaucE`Xwave> new wireless card may be in my future lol
[07:14] <Webx> how do i add a dir to $PATH ?
[07:15] <Mastastealth> ;)
[07:15] <Mastastealth> ill bb
[07:15] <Kurt```> is there a way to disable shift+backspace in XGL? :)
[07:15] <roaet2> i'm getting unknown fs type
[07:15] <roaet2> =\
[07:15] <roaet2> that's lame =(
[07:15] <rambo3> roaet2 rethink and rewrite that question
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Webx,  google for a bash tutorial guide. it will show ya. You export your PATH vaiable in .bashrc is the basics of it.
[07:16] <k^^> anyone know how to "reset" Camorama? After I turned on autocapture it now uses 100% cpu making it useless... :/
[07:16] <SaucE`Xwave> wonder if Dell offers wireless up/down grades
[07:17] <SaucE`Xwave> hehe
[07:17] <roaet2> rambo3, I have just reinstalled grub and I'm getting unknown fs type for my windows install.
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> *doh* that sounds bad.
[07:17] <ryanakca> how do you make .deb in dapper?
[07:17] <rambo3> ok windows is on partition and menu.lst looks like what_
[07:18] <Howitzer> can i pm someone to see if a 3line sh script is good?
[07:18] <Mantice> My Links dont open in Xchat how to I fix that
[07:18] <Howitzer> Mantice, right-click the links
[07:18] <WiFi> Mastastealth: error 1. kppp installed but nokia doesn't connect to internet
[07:18] <Howitzer> you'll see a menu on what to do with them
[07:18] <rambo3> i would never buy dell in the first place , but thats just my opinion
[07:19] <Mantice> Howitzer, yeah I know thats whats broken
[07:19] <Mantice> Howitzer, It use to work untill i screwed up firefox
[07:19] <SaucE`Xwave> I would never buy a Dell desktop
[07:20] <evilsmevil> im a dell desktop right now
[07:20] <evilsmevil> ive never really had any problems
[07:20] <Mantice> cringe?
[07:20] <spikebike> I like dell single cpu desktops
[07:20] <spikebike> cheap, quiet, reliable, nice web interface, and they ship quick
[07:20] <spikebike> their multi-cpu offerings are expensive, slow and hot though
[07:20] <spikebike> and their laptops fragile
[07:20] <Howitzer> Mantice, explain then :-)
[07:20] <CarinArr> fragile?
[07:20] <Tezkah> Intel Core Duo!
[07:20] <Howitzer> you put the rights to sudo?
[07:21] <CarinArr> my laptop's been fine, and virtually indestructible
[07:21] <ryanakca> how do you make .deb in dapper without having to use checkinstall?
[07:21] <spikebike> yeah, things like cheap plastic hinges
[07:21] <spikebike> had one replaced 3 times
[07:21] <CarinArr> what model?
[07:21] <drgreborn> MastaStealth: thanks for the help
[07:21] <Mantice> Well it all started with some one giving a wiki page to update firefox :) ... So I had ago missed all the warnings firefox justed crashed and I have to delete things men
[07:21] <Bean> Hmmm, Juice isn't available on Linux (yet). What's an alternative for subscribing to "podcasts" ?
[07:21] <Mantice> manuely and I manage to fix up my old firefox
[07:22] <Howitzer> eh
[07:22] <Howitzer> i followed the same wiki and my FF is just fine :/
[07:22] <hramrach_> Hello
[07:22] <Nukeador> hi all
[07:22] <Howitzer> did you do the exact same thing ?
[07:22] <hramrach_> How do I tell that my mic is working?
[07:23] <Mantice> ?
[07:23] <Kurt```> call someone on skype :D
[07:23] <Howitzer> try to record your own voice
[07:23] <Mantice> Links are broken I dont know how to fix it
[07:23] <luloy> Kurt```: did you ever hear about the shift backspace in xgl?
[07:23] <Kurt```> no
[07:23] <Kurt```> :(
[07:23] <hramrach_> I want to use linphone but I suspect the mixer is set incorrectly, and no sound is sent.
[07:23] <Nukeador> any idea why if i get low signal on mi wireless card under ubuntu i get disconnected?
[07:23] <luloy> i'd like to know too :\
[07:23] <Kurt```> i've already hit it like 15 times today
[07:23] <luloy> Kurt```: yea, i do it plenty, went back to xorg
[07:23] <luloy> haha
[07:24] <Kurt```> i'm tempted to as well until I find a fix
[07:24] <hramrach_> Nukeador: because the signal is bad?
[07:24] <moofb> I get an 'nvidia.ko: no such device' error message when I try to use "nvidia" instead of "nv" in my xorg.conf, any ideas on how to relove that?
[07:24] <Nukeador> but in windows is the same signal
[07:24] <Nukeador> and no disconnect happens
[07:24] <hramrach_> Nukeador: what wifi?
[07:25] <rambo3> mofb nvidia module isnt installed then .
[07:25] <Kurt```> wireless internet
[07:25] <Nukeador> normal wifi
[07:25] <thebeanbag> any south african ubuntu users here?
[07:25] <hramrach_> Howitzer: what do you use fora recording?
[07:26] <Tezkah> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-upd
[07:26] <Nukeador> luloy, you have the same problem?
[07:26] <Tezkah> when searching with apt-cache
[07:26] <rambo3> apt-get clean
[07:26] <Tezkah> the canadian archive mirror is boned
[07:27] <poningru> Tezkah: do a apt-get update as well
[07:27] <Tezkah> 99% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (206.75.218.52)] 
[07:27] <Tezkah> cant ping it
[07:27] <poningru> ah
[07:27] <thebeanbag> how do i get SCO-ANSI in telnet in ubuntu?
[07:27] <poningru> go to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:27] <poningru> and change the ca to us
[07:28] <Tezkah> but i am canadian! :D
[07:28] <moofb> mofb: I installed it using the nvidia-provided installer, I have a 8178version of nvidia.ko in /lib/mod..../drivers
[07:28] <poningru> hehe
[07:28] <Kurt```> what's the temperature up there today?
[07:28] <SaucE`Xwave> w00t for Canada
[07:28] <moofb> sorry, I meant rambo3
[07:28] <kakei> http://wedoit4you.com:8000/   #radiobuntu  already done :)
[07:28] <hramrach_> ok, I found that sound recorcer app, and it records something.
[07:28] <rambo3> and sduo modprobe nvidia is ok_
[07:29] <Tezkah> -10 degrees outside
[07:29] <Kurt```> it was -12 C this morning here, -2 now :)
[07:29] <SaucE`Xwave> was cold here this morning
[07:29] <SaucE`Xwave> always is out here on the east coast
[07:29] <Nukeador> any idea why if i get low signal on mi wireless card under ubuntu i get disconnected? :S In widnows is the same signal and works propertly
[07:29] <Kurt```> car wouldn't shift out of first til the tranny fluid heated up :/
[07:29] <no_wifi_yet> so... ubuntu ships with a really old ndiswrapper, that wont work with my wifi device. ive downloaded, and compiled ndiswrapper, but i get an error about version...
[07:29] <T0lkman> hello anyone please help me install mysql5
[07:30] <T0lkman> there is in repositories only mysql 4.1 version ;[
[07:30] <roaet2> My grub problem: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/iG70H925.html
[07:30] <Luke> hey guys i'm unable to mount my usb camera because it says its "usb-storage: Unable to allocate the scsi host", anyone know how to fix this?
[07:30] <SaucE`Xwave> mysql4 is more compatible with most stuff
[07:30] <SaucE`Xwave> I had trouble getting myphpadmin to work with 5
[07:31] <Kurt```> did you have the "old client" error with passwords?
[07:31] <rambo3> why do you need root option moofb
[07:32] <T0lkman> SaucE`Xwave i knew, but my developer wantsa mysql 5 ;[
[07:32] <rambo3> just remove it from config
[07:32] <SaucE`Xwave> ah
[07:33] <rambo3> sry my foult
[07:35] <osku> hello
[07:36] <twa1296> hi i have a problem with my network card and fear that the card is broken. how do i find out?
[07:37] <scav> twa1296: what problems do you have?
[07:37] <Kurt```> try it in another machine?
[07:37] <twa1296> it's in a laptop and was working fine on the last ubuntu install
[07:37] <Nukeador> any idea why if i get low signal on mi wireless card under ubuntu i get disconnected? i cant reconnect withour reboot
[07:37] <Sonderblade> anyone know how to get drop shadows in compiz?
[07:37] <osku> are here any people from finland
[07:37] <diGVargur> hello
[07:37] <osku> hello
[07:38] <twa1296> scav: dhcp autoconfig failed during install
[07:38] <diGVargur> someone knowz about PSOTNIC MIRC - BOT please if you know tell me ;
[07:38] <rambo3> moofb did you try with root(0,3) _
[07:39] <twa1296> scav: but it's being recognized as eth0, ifconfig seems ok too, but pings failed with "unknown host name"
[07:39] <bbhill> Hello, I just upgraded from Hoary to Breezy, and am having some sort of monitor issue upon the installations completion - When it tries to boot into gui the monitor goes into sleep mode.. My monitor was autodetected perfectly in Hoary and am at a loss for what to do to try to troubleshoot this and was hoping someone here could help me through this frustrating problem.
[07:39] <osku> ootko suomest
[07:39] <twa1296> is there some way i can ping myself to see if the card is broken?
[07:39] <rysiek> hi there guys
[07:39] <scav> no
[07:40] <SaucE`Xwave> ping 127.0.0.1
[07:40] <rysiek> got a wuestion, asked already on #kubuntu (no ideas there)
[07:40] <rysiek> how to create a Fat16 filesystem with a pre-defined number of sectors per track and pre-defined number of heads?
[07:40] <SaucE`Xwave> well let you know if it is functioning
[07:40] <twa1296> ah yes! i've heard that before somewhere... thanks suce
[07:40] <Mantice> bbhil, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:40] <setuid> Why doesn't the kernel support aes256?
[07:40] <Mantice> I dont know whats wrong but you can possably fix it there
[07:40] <bbhill> Mantice: Will try now. Thank you
[07:40] <setuid> The _ubuntu_ kernel, that is
[07:40] <osku> hi im from finland
[07:40] <hramrach_> hmm, I can record sound, call a bot that produces sound, but when I call an echo bot I get only some noise
[07:40] <scav> bbhill: your x config prob set a resolution/refresh rate that the screen cant handle
[07:41] <rambo3> moi
[07:41] <setuid> ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument, requested cipher or key length (256 bits) not supported by kernel
[07:41] <hramrach_> Is it possible that the soundcard is not good enough?
[07:41] <setuid> Anyone know?
[07:41] <scav> bbhill: if you got your manual for the monitor, check it and configure xorg.conf accordingly
[07:41] <setuid> I have an encrypted volume I created with Breezy, and now Dapper can't decrypt it
[07:42] <osku> hi sweden won ice hokey and finland is second wery horrible look i am from finland
[07:42] <osku> moi
[07:42] <HappyFool> !fi
[07:42] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[07:42] <hramrach_> 0000:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic Crystal CS4281 PCI Audio (rev 01)
[07:43] <rysiek> anybody?
[07:43] <osku> hi
[07:43] <osku> moi
[07:44] <hramrach_> ok, I will try a different soundcard
[07:45] <rysiek> well then, this is too hard an issue for this channel, I suppose :)
[07:45] <carlosl> Hi I have a question: is possible to get laid with hot chiks using ubuntu???
[07:45] <osku> hi
[07:45] <Kurt```> haha
[07:46] <osku> moi siis olen suomesta
[07:46] <Ilokaasu> osku: #ubuntu-fi
[07:46] <Webx> anyone has an ide what the command set  -o noclobber dose? i can figure it out..?
[07:46] <rysiek> Webx: man set
[07:46] <twa1296> i also got a skype problem, it's not in the repositories nor can i get the .deb package to work, anybody know a workaround?
[07:46] <rysiek> oops - n manpage for set :/
[07:46] <carlosl> download it from the web twa1296
[07:47] <Webx> rysiek:?
[07:47] <rysiek> nevermind, my mistake :P
[07:47] <pvh> twa1296: several people have working debs in specialized repositories
[07:47] <twa1296> carlos: i did, the .deb package has unresolvable dependencies
[07:47] <pvh> twa1296: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl maintained it for a while, but i couldn't access his repo last i tried
[07:47] <carlosl> do you know what dependencies are? maybe is just a version problem
[07:47] <pvh> twa1296: i imagine if you poke around a bit in the forums you can find a link to an active repo with skype debs
[07:48] <rysiek> gtg, cu guys
[07:48] <twa1296> pvh: that's what i was thinking and it's been driving me nuts for the past hour, maybe i can alien the fedora package?
[07:48] <pvh> twa1296: no, i wouldn't do that.
[07:49] <pvh> twa1296: i remember reading there was a minor change to the packages that needed making
[07:49] <carlosl> twa1296: why not dpkg --unpack at your /home/ dir, and try if it works?
[07:49] <Hurga> is someone here running Acrobat Reader 5 w/ AMD64 Ubuntu?
[07:49] <pvh> twa1296: http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/
[07:49] <twa1296> pvh: thanks
[07:49] <pvh> twa1296: good luck.
[07:50] <carlosl> damn, i want xgl with mipmapping :(
[07:50] <setuid> Anyone know how I can mount this volume with aes256?
[07:50] <hramrach_> carlosl: I want xgl that does not lock up :)
[07:50] <carlosl> hramrach_: what gf do you have?
[07:51] <carlosl> gfx board, excuse me
[07:51] <hramrach_> ati radeon 9250
[07:51] <Kurt```> luloy: someone in another linux channel mentioned a Option "NoZap" in the [server]  section of xorg.conf
[07:51] <Kurt```> prevents accidental shutdown via shift+backspace supposedly
[07:51] <carlosl> oh, i have an nvidia, i'm not sure but it seems many ppl have problems with atis
[07:51] <gobama> I need some help trying to install ubuntu
[07:52] <we2by> I can't wait for the next Ubuntu release
[07:52] <gobama> it keeps locking up saying there is a vid card overflow during the powerd phase
[07:52] <christoph_> Kann hier jemand deutsch???? pls melden
[07:52] <Mantice> It might fix my broken links :)
[07:52] <gobama> it makes it through the first part of the install fine
[07:52] <Kurt```> christoph_: #ubuntu-de
[07:52] <BrianG> !dutch
[07:52] <ubotu> BrianG: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:52] <hramrach_> carlosl: Many people have problems with anything. Either it is old or the drivers are buggy. Often both ;)
[07:53] <Hurga> christoph_: #ubuntu-de
[07:53] <carlosl> hramrach_: there are open source drivers for it, right?
[07:53] <BrianG> oh wait haha
[07:54] <hramrach_> for ati, yes. But they do lock up occasionally. At least with that chipset
[07:54] <Kurt```> oh no
[07:54] <redjim> I am having a ltsp issue with edubuntu.  I get to a point in the boot where the client screen says the following on the last four lines then freezes up: Begin: Running /scripts/nfs-top...
[07:54] <redjim> Done.
[07:54] <redjim> [4294679.422000]  NET: Registered protocol family 17
[07:54] <redjim> IP-Config: eth0 hardware address [Insert MAC Address here]  into 1500
[07:54] <redjim> DHCP RARP
[07:54] <redjim> .  Any Ideas. see http://www.nabble.com/Re:-I've-got-a-problem-with-ltsp-p1618200.html
[07:54] <BrianG> Some people juggle geese i love it
[07:55] <twa1296> pvh: i did a sudo alien with the red hat .rpm adn it worked!!
[07:55] <twa1296> unbelievable!
[07:56] <luloy> Kurt```: i thought that was "DontZap"
[07:56] <luloy> i tried it...
[07:56] <BillGates> Hello, this is Bill Gates. If possible, I would like to talk about affiliation plans with Microsoft & Ubuntu. :-)
[07:56] <carlosl> ok, give me your number I'll call you back Bill
[07:56] <Mantice> can some one give me the download to Amercanas army? It has flash and I dont have time to download it
[07:56] <gaspedalo> hi everyone. I'd like to install a raid5 on my ubuntu amd64 system with evms. I am a newbie, so can anyone lead me to good tutorials or howtos?
[07:56] <spikebike> evms?
[07:57] <Hurga> does somene have an idea how library loading works with 32 Bit apps on 64 Bit systems?
[07:57] <gaspedalo> Enterprise Volume Management System
[07:57] <spikebike> isn't that a bsd thing?
[07:57] <BillGates> carlosl: You can always email me at billgates@microsoft.com :-)
[07:57] <spikebike> mostly the equivalent of lvm?
[07:57] <gaspedalo> no, it's integrated into breezy badger as well
[07:57] <bbhill> Mantice: Resolved issue by replacing "ATI" with "VESA" in my xorg.conf, thanks for your assistance
[07:57] <carlosl> you're going to spam me, so no, sorry
[07:57] <meisam> hi guys
[07:57] <spikebike> interesting
[07:57] <gaspedalo> it has a gui
[07:57] <meisam> needing ur help over here
[07:58] <spikebike> is it preferred over lvm?
[07:58] <gaspedalo> it says : "The Enterprise Volume Management System (EVMS) Project has the goal of providing unparalleled flexibility and extensibility in managing storage. It represents a new approach to logical volume management for Linux. The architecture introduces a plug-in model that allows for easy expansion and customization of various levels of volume management"
[07:58] <gaspedalo> you know, it's everything under one hood
[07:59] <gaspedalo> http://evms.sourceforge.net/
[07:59] <spikebike> dunno, I'd rather use what a butload of other people have tested for me
[07:59] <meisam> i have downloaded one package , that on my desktop now when i try to instalkl it the terminal gives me the messege that could not find the package
[07:59] <viperX> hello
[07:59] <gaspedalo> I guess it's more comfortable to use than to mess around with raidtools, lvm etc.
[07:59] <meisam> the package is eclipse and is downloaded on my desktop
[07:59] <dooglus> meisam: 'cd Desktop' first?
[07:59] <viperX> Could omeone explain how I can stop a shell action once I've run it from the command line?
[08:00] <carlosl> try with kill
[08:00] <viperX> *someone
[08:00] <meisam> dooglus its telling me not such file
[08:00] <Mantice> bbhill, no problem its the first time ive helped fixed some one elses problem :)
[08:00] <BillGates> Well. We at Microsoft have been planning been planning to affiliate with Ubuntu. We've also been thinking about bringing WIndows Media Player 11 and FreeOffice (GPL version of Office 12) to Debian and Ubuntu.
[08:00] <viperX> I tried that and it's still running. I also tried killall
[08:00] <dooglus> meisam: Desktop not desktop
[08:00] <Morrowyn> morning
[08:00] <carlosl> what are you running?
[08:00] <carlosl> try with kill -9
[08:00] <viperX> I'm running ditto to copy some files to an external drive
[08:00] <Morrowyn> can someone tell me how do i create a network bridge between two nics on ubuntu?
[08:00] <moofb> how would I go about installing nvidia-drivers for my geforce5900?
[08:01] <meisam> may be i need to unzip the package, the extension is tar.gz
[08:01] <spikebike> mei tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[08:01] <dooglus> meisam: can't you just install it using synaptic?
[08:02] <meisam> dooglus how?
[08:02] <meisam> would u tell me?
[08:02] <meisam> dooglus would u tell me?
[08:02] <carlosl> System -> Preferences -> synaptic
[08:02] <carlosl> is not that hard you know
[08:02] <meisam> i knowwwwww
[08:02] <dooglus> meisam: wot carlos said.  run synaptic, search for eclipse, install it.
[08:02] <dooglus> meisam: you'll need to enable !universe if you didn't already
[08:02] <dooglus> !universe
[08:03] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:03] <meisam> there r diferent eclipseeeeee
[08:03] <meisam> which of them?
[08:03] <meisam> i did
[08:03] <Kurt```> yeah luloy, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_disable_Ctrl.2BAlt.2BBackspace_from_restarting_X_in_GNOME
[08:03] <Kurt```> gonna try it now
[08:03] <carlosl> but that's your problem, go and read about eclipse, figure what you need and install it
[08:03] <meisam> i have enabled
[08:03] <BillGates> Does anyone have ideas of what Microsoft can bring for Ubuntu? :-)
[08:03] <Mantice> whats the latest version of Americas army?
[08:03] <dooglus> meisam: just 'eclipse'
[08:04] <viperX> Ok, i tried kill -9 and that didn't work either...
[08:04] <carlosl> with sudo?
[08:04] <carlosl> maybe is running as root
[08:04] <Mantice> We support the microsoft mouse and keyboard and thats about it :)
[08:04] <Deramin> are there any graphics promreams for gnome good for a quick diargramy-sketch. something like (I hate to admit this) MS Paint? where you can just throw a few lines on the screen in different colours and a couple shapes, and maybe a curved line or two and be done with it?
[08:04] <viperX> maybe you can't stop dditto one it's started?
[08:04] <h3ax> damn i almost lost my interrest in reinstalling Ubuntu
[08:05] <carlosl> Deramin: gnome or kde?
[08:05] <meisam> dooglus i searched but there r many eclipse and there is no 'eclipse'
[08:05] <Deramin> carlosl: Gnome. I mentioned that
[08:05] <Kurt```> luloy: it disables ctrl-alt-backspace but not shift-backspace :/ I'll keep looking
[08:05] <boz> Hi.  Is anyone else having problems with Opera?  I think i finally got the java debugged but when i do a -debugplugin i get all kinds of errors?
[08:05] <dooglus> meisam: in breezy?
[08:05] <Mantice> Yeah paints kinda one of a kind :)
[08:05] <viperX> I've tried kill,, quit, stop, killall: I can't seem to get ditto to stop running.
[08:06] <NRG88> how do i install a metacity theme?
[08:06] <viperX> Maybe I started it wrong.....
[08:06] <meisam> dooglus im not that professional, i dun know breezy
[08:06] <meisam> dooglus im in ubuntu gnome
[08:06] <Mantice> lol
[08:06] <viperX> i even tried pressing the esc key. That didn't do anything either
[08:06] <dooglus> meisam: you might want eclipse-base
[08:06] <carlosl> Deramin: what about 'Dia'?
[08:07] <hramrach_> ok, I swapped in a sblive instead of that cs4281. Now echo through linphone works but I always hear my voice in the speakers.
[08:07] <meisam> dooglus how about installing all of them
[08:07] <NRG88> anyone?
[08:07] <dooglus> Deramin: inkscape is quite easy
[08:07] <theine> Hi, I'm using Dapper and the OSS emulation suddenly stopped working. "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /dev/dsp" does not produce any sound for instance. has anybody similar problems (and perhaps a solution)?
[08:07] <dooglus> meisam: try just -base first
[08:07] <hramrach_> How do I tern that off?
[08:07] <hramrach_> *turn
[08:07] <NRG88> i tried to install metacity themes, like gtk themes, but it didn't work
[08:07] <weex> hello room
[08:07] <NRG88> how can i install metacity themes?
[08:07] <Deramin> carlosa: good for real diagrams, but not so good modeling out where people are standing and where they're going at what angle. mostly I just need something to sketch out concepts quickly
[08:08] <carlosl> GNU Paint, it sucks it seems but maybe it works for you
[08:08] <Deramin> dooglus: where do I find inkscape?
[08:08] <weex> hoping somebody understands modrewrite enough to help me...
[08:08] <Zoroaster> this may sound crazy, but can I give my eth0 a WINS server address?
[08:08] <Deramin> carlosl: where do I find it?
[08:08] <carlosl> Add/remove
[08:08] <gean> where can i find the gimp-perl package ?! (is it comin' with the ubuntu standard distribution in a hidden way maybe ?!)
[08:09] <carlosl> in Applications
[08:09] <hramrach_> urg, install sblive just to make phone calls barely usable..
[08:09] <diGVargur> What em i doing wrong isss :S
[08:09] <diGVargur> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p conf.hub
[08:09] <diGVargur> bash: ./psotnic: Permission denied
[08:09] <andorra> anyone dapper?
[08:09] <dooglus> Deramin: in synaptic
[08:09] <carlosl> Deramin: or just do apt-get install gpaint
[08:09] <hramrach_> I guess I will have to live with it
[08:09] <Zoroaster> where is the hosts file, that I can make manual entries for network name resolution?
[08:09] <Kurt```> diGVargur: chmod +x psotnic ?
[08:09] <dooglus> andorra: yes.  but #ubuntu+1 is for dapper
[08:10] <diGVargur> hmm i lll try
[08:10] <hramrach_> Zoroaster: /etc/hosts?
[08:10] <evilbulgarian> hi, /var/log/mysql/ has a file called mysql-bin.log which is loggin all querries and is filling up space on drive where can i disable or change the logging on that what exactly does it to?
[08:10] <zF> !cairo
[08:10] <Deramin> carlosl: what's it listed under? it's not under graphics.
[08:10] <ubotu> methinks cairo is http://www.cairographics.org
[08:10] <hramrach_> bye
[08:10] <andorra> dooglus: thanks
[08:10] <Alex_C> Hey,
[08:10] <carlosl> Deramin: I have dapper and it's listed there
[08:10] <Alex_C> How do I remove that fugly effect when applications Minimize in Gnome?
[08:11] <carlosl> Deramin:  go to the console and write "sudo apt-get install gpaint"
[08:11] <Zoroaster> hramrach_, thanks, will look in there
[08:11] <dooglus> !info inkscape
[08:11] <Deramin> carlosl: I have breezy and it's not
[08:11] <ubotu> inkscape: (vector-based drawing program), section graphics, is optional. Version: 0.42-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 5794 kB, Installed size: 24168 kB
[08:11] <carlosl> !gpaint
[08:11] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, carlosl
[08:11] <carlosl> um, stange, it seems a kinda old program
[08:11] <ompaul> carlosl, look at the word info :)
[08:12] <dooglus> Alex_C: you can do it - you use the configuration editor - but I can't find it at the mo.
[08:12] <Alex_C> dooglus, Cool, will have a look in a min
[08:12] <BillGates> We are also going to contribute t the Samba project to bring greater compatibility for the upcoming Windows Vista. Does anybody have ideas to how Microsoft can contribute to the Linux community?
[08:13] <carlosl> Deramin: does it work with apt-get?
[08:13] <Deramin> carlosl: found it
[08:13] <dooglus> is the GNOME configuration editor no longer available in dapper?
[08:14] <carlosl> dooglus: I have something called Alcarte
[08:14] <ompaul> dooglus, if you want to discuss dapper please take the conversation to #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <Deramin> carlosl: and that's exactly what I want. just some quick and dirty program to scetch things on
[08:14] <pekuja> dooglus: it is available, but it's hidden from the menu by default. you can get it back with the menu editor
[08:14] <carlosl> Deramin: nice, just be aware it seems a old and unmantained
[08:14] <Mersault> So, I've recently dual-booted the media pc with ubuntu, and I'm looking for an app to access my itunes music shares (mt-daapd on another linux box in a closet). What would folks recommend I try?
[08:14] <carlosl> a little, sorry
[08:15] <dyrne> BillGates: you could fragment your OS into like 5 or 6 distros making the base home user's OS practically unusable
[08:15] <carlosl> :)
[08:15] <diGVargur> i need help :S
[08:15] <gean> mkisofs usually cuts and adapts the names of the files... even if using the -J or -R options. Has anybopdy here an idea how to maintain them ``as they are'' while copying (For instance the k3b or the nautilus copy utility are doing what i want, but then i have to click myself on all *.tex files...)
[08:15] <diGVargur> diGVargur@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ chmod +x psotnic
[08:15] <diGVargur> diGVargur@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p conf.hub
[08:15] <diGVargur> bash: ./psotnic: cannot execute binary file
[08:15] <diGVargur> diGVargur@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$
[08:16] <ompaul> diGVargur, do not paste in here, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org thanks
[08:16] <dooglus> Alex_C: so, you run "gconf-editor", navigate to /apps/metacity/general and tick 'restricted resources'.  that gets rid of the fugliness.
[08:16] <dooglus> !de
[08:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:17] <ompaul> diGVargur, what is psotnic?
[08:17] <drasko> Hi all. I need help with m-audio audiophile -- no sound! Any experiences?
[08:17] <BillGates> dyme: Windows is already getting 6 different versions. It's going to be very hard work trying to do all of that. Vista will include Internet Explorer, which ISN'T integrated into the system, making it more secure. What would be the point in doing this anyway?
[08:18] <BillGates> Oops, typo. Internet Explorer 7. :-)
[08:18] <meisam2> dooglus its finished but last time i installed the eclipse there was an programming in my application, but now its not such wa menu in application, how can i make sure the eclipse is already installed with no problem
[08:18] <ompaul> BillGates, windows is offtopic, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <setuid> Where does one get the fglrx driver source to build into newer (non-ubuntu) kernels?
[08:19] <BillGates> ompaul: Thanks for the link. Sorry for the disturbance if there was any. :-)
[08:19] <ompaul> ;)
[08:19] <Morrowyn> can someone tell me how do i create a network bridge between two nics on ubuntu?
[08:20] <meisam2> dooglus its finished but last time i installed the eclipse there was an programming in my application, but now its not such wa menu in application, how can i make sure the eclipse is already installed with no problem
[08:20] <Mastastealth> setuid: ati's website?
[08:20] <Mastastealth> morrowyn: there's a program called bridge that supposedly does that...
[08:20] <setuid> Mastastealth: Not likely, since it'll need to be somewhere in kernel-land
[08:21] <dooglus> meisam2: I don't know.  I can't find any package for breezy which has an eclipse menu entry
[08:21] <Mastastealth> fglrx source? u want to install the driver or not? u cant get the source, its a propierty driver
[08:21] <setuid> Sigh
[08:21] <meisam2> dooglus all rght how can i test he eclipse, where can i find it to use now?
[08:21] <setuid> root@angst:/lib/modules/2.6.15-16-686/volatile # ls -l fglrx.ko
[08:21] <setuid> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 568593 2006-02-27 06:18 fglrx.ko
[08:21] <meisam2> dooglus how can i find out its installed
[08:21] <dooglus> meisam2: eclipse-platform-common installs /usr/share/applications/eclipse.desktop - maybe that's what you need?
[08:22] <khelsys> hi boys
[08:22] <khelsys> i've a problem with ipv4->ipv6 tunneling on my ath0 wireless interface.. can't you help me?
[08:24] <dooglus> meisam2: which language will you be working with in eclipse?
[08:24] <Morrowyn> okies
[08:24] <Morrowyn> thanks, Mastastealth
[08:25] <Alex_C> dooglus, when ever I move a application, I get a grid showing on top of the program - don't suppose you know how to get rid of that aswell?
[08:25] <dooglus> Alex_C: that's what you get if you turn off the fugly minimisation...  it's the universal law of conversation of fugliness.
[08:25] <meisam2> dooglus c++
[08:26] <Alex_C> dooglus, awww, they should make it more independent - I hate things that are linked
[08:26] <Boglizk> Is it possible to create a shortcut for the Terminal?
[08:26] <no0tic> I can't figure out how to install CMFPhoto & CMFPhotoAlbum on plone, what can i do?
[08:26] <meisam2> dooglus dear, i installed it last time but i had to remove it, and again installing it now...but i dun know what the hell is goin on here that i can not find it if its installed
[08:27] <Mastastealth> Boglizk: should be an option in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:27] <Bean> Anybody know of a really flexible podcast downloader that can run in console?
[08:27] <Bean> (no GUI)
[08:27] <no0tic> I installed from apt the two packages, but they doesn't show up on products...
[08:27] <dooglus> meisam2: in a terminal, "dpkg '*eclipse*'" will list the installed eclipse packages
[08:27] <Boglizk> oh.. mustu've missed it, Thanks!
[08:27] <patrickneville> Hi, i use windows XP and SuSE 10.0 right now, but what do you all thinks better about Ubuntu and why i should switched
[08:27] <dooglus> meisam2: try installing "eclipse-platform" if you didn't already.
[08:27] <patrickneville> switch*
[08:28] <Boglizk> Ubuntu is a way cooler name ;)
[08:28] <xukun> hmm, I upgraded to dapper, now when I start with the systeem I get dark screen just before it should startx
[08:28] <dooglus> Alex_C: the GNOME developers try to keep things as simple as possible.  in a lot of cases that means you can't configure them enough for your taste.
[08:28] <Mastastealth> patrickneville: if Suse works for you fine, then dont switch to Ubuntu, its cool, uses apt-get, and has awesome community support is what gets a lot of ppl to switch however
[08:28] <dooglus> Alex_C: did you see Linus' rant about it?  He recommends that you should use KDE instead...
[08:29] <Alex_C> dooglus, true, just I like to be able to tweak everything. Oh really, no I didn't
[08:29] <Alex_C> dooglus, I find KDE very very bloated
[08:29] <dooglus> Alex_C: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[08:29] <Boglizk> i havn't tried KDE.. but GNOME works just fine for me.
[08:29] <Mastastealth> just wait till KDE4 comes out ^_^
 okay i wasnt sure how ubuntu compared to  suse
[08:29] <Upayavira> Trying to run Live CD on an old Thinkpad. It refuses to boot from CD. Is there any other way to start it up other than plain old CD boot? E.g. triggering it from within Windows?
[08:30] <xukun> anything much appreciated
[08:30] <Mastastealth> patrick: yea, its mainly the debian-based functionality, the community, and I guess those lil special tweaks to make it so user-friendly :)
[08:31] <patrickneville> okay :)
[08:31] <Boglizk> Thanks - mesa out
[08:31] <Mastastealth> i know i completely got turned off my Mandrake cuz it was so hard to find a free community with good help
[08:31] <Tezkah> hehe, flame war ++
[08:31] <Mastastealth> unlike ubuntuforums.org , which rox
[08:31] <comfrey> how to export package list in order  to install same list on another system?
[08:32] <Mastastealth> Upayavira: have u check BIOS?
[08:32] <Upayavira> Mastastealth: Yes.
[08:32] <StereoSkit> dudes, quesion, a coworker here, changed to root password many months ago (he is still using warty) we booted in safe mode but still asks for password, is there a way to enter single modo to change that passwd?
[08:32] <Mastastealth> Upayavira: and there's no boot order options?
[08:32] <Upayavira> Mastastealth: And used F12 which is 'select boot device'
[08:33] <Upayavira> Mastastealth: moved CD to top of list, but it still insists on booting from Windows.
[08:33] <dooglus> StereoSkit: you can change it using "sudo passwd"
[08:33] <Mastastealth> Upayavira: odd...tried any other bottable CDs? perhaps its corrupt?
[08:33] <Alex_C> Hum, Does anyone have some really good links to fundimental basics of linux? I know some basics, but I really want to learn Linux - and I need to go over basics and how everythnig works
[08:34] <spikebike> not really
[08:34] <Upayavira> Mastastealth:Tried another Ubuntu CD. Will try disabling HDD in bios then trying again. ATM it isn't even firing up the drive (i.e. no noise)
[08:34] <Ilokaasu> Upayavira: is it correctly burned CD ?
[08:35] <StereoSkit> dooglus: sudo: must be setuid root
[08:35] <Mastastealth> Alex_C: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=02/03/09/1727250 ?
[08:35] <StereoSkit> there no single boot mode to passwd change?
[08:35] <Alex_C> Mastastealth, thanks,
[08:35] <Upayavira> Ilokaasu: it is a proper Ubuntu CD, i.e. not a burnt one.
[08:36] <bimberi> StereoSkit: there should be a 'recovery mode' option on the grub boot menu
[08:36] <Mastastealth> Upayavira: from Shipit?
[08:36] <Upayavira> Mastastealth: I guess so. I'm not sure where they got it from. A properly pressed Ubuntu CD in a very nice folder.
[08:37] <Charg> Could someone help me to get my tablet working? I've found some howtos on the internet, but things crashed hard when I tried that.
[08:37] <dooglus> StereoSkit: and it isn't?  it should be.
[08:37] <drasko> my alsamixer is broken...  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[08:38] <Mastastealth> Upayavira: yea thats shipit...hmmm...id download another small LiveCD (maybe Damn Small Linux) and burn it on another CD, to check if its the BIOS/drive
[08:38] <jmcc> anyone familiar with i810 xorg driver?  i have a rotatable monitor, and can get the driver to rotate the screen ("option rotate ccw", but how do I do the mouse?
[08:40] <Upayavira> Mastastealth: Assuming that the machine won't boot _any_ CD, which seems to be the case, how do I fire up LiveCD? Any way? Not possible?
[08:41] <meisam> dooglus im sorry, im trying to open this file and unzip it, but cant, could u take a look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9453
[08:41] <poningru> can you guys connect to the universe packages?
[08:41] <Rambo3> stpid gnomebaker
[08:41] <poningru> I cant install mplayer
[08:41] <dooglus> meisam: it's not zipped, it's gzipped.
[08:42] <StereoSkit> yes, we enter recovery mode, but still asked for root passwd for maintenance or ctrl+D
[08:42] <rukuartic> Question: Once I compile something (make command) and I get something (eg, sajberplay) is it stand alone? Or do I need all the .o and .h files?
[08:42] <StereoSkit> damn
[08:42] <HappyFool> poningru: you're aware there's no package called just mplayer? have you tried mplayer-386 ?
[08:42] <dooglus> meisam: use "tar xf file.tar.gz" to unpack it
[08:42] <poningru> oh
[08:42] <Mastastealth> Upayavira: only other thing would be some USB boot, that I know of
[08:42] <hotluck> hi all
[08:42] <meisam> dooglus all right , can u give me the right command to just put it on terminal
[08:43] <poningru> HappyFool: nope same error
[08:43] <dooglus> meisam: cd ~/downloads; tar xf eclipse-SDK-3.1.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[08:43] <poningru> if I search for mplayer on synaptic it doesnt show up
[08:43] <poningru> I am pretty sure the universe is borked
[08:43] <dooglus> meisam: or, if you want it expanded into /opt, do this:
[08:43] <mordof> can anyone confirm that the repos are screwing up? ive been trying to aptitude install stuff all day
[08:43] <rjm> apache2 runs cgis out of the box without mod-perl or mod-cgi right
[08:43] <dooglus> meisam: cd /opt; sudo tar xf ~/downloads/eclipse-SDK-3.1.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[08:44] <darnell_> why cant i delete emails from evolutions trash can?
[08:44] <hotluck> seems find from here doing an apt-get update
[08:44] <trae> I want to spend no more than say $1,800 total (US) and am looking for a laptop that will run Ubuntu on it... that has 1680 x 1050 res or so...
[08:44] <Syns> why cant i delete emails from evolutions trash can?
[08:45] <trae> any suggestion peeps?
[08:45] <poningru> hmm weird
[08:45] <poningru> mplayer is in the multiverse
[08:45] <Tezkah> because evolution is evilution
[08:45] <trae> Tezkah, gmail++
[08:45] <mordof> apt-get doesnt work for me
[08:45] <Syns> what do u use?
[08:45] <mordof> im trying to get cabextract
[08:45] <Tezkah> gmail
[08:45] <mordof> and i have updates waiting
[08:45] <Tezkah> or *cough* kde-pim
[08:45] <mordof> neither will connect to download... this is bs
[08:45] <Tezkah> haha
[08:45] <dooglus> !cabextract
[08:45] <ubotu> dooglus: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:45] <Hatfield> Does anyone know how to make ubuntu think its in a workgroup rather than a domain??
[08:45] <hotluck> trae, go for a dell inspiron 6000
[08:45] <dooglus> !info cabextract
[08:45] <ubotu> cabextract: (a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[08:46] <hotluck> they're fantastic
[08:46] <trae> hotluck, yeah?
[08:46] <dooglus> mordof: did you enable universe?
[08:46] <mordof> dooglus, yes.. it finds it
[08:46] <Hatfield> are u talkin to me?
[08:46] <mordof> dooglus, it just wont download.. it stalls when trying to connect to the server
[08:46] <nysosym> Hi all
[08:46] <dooglus> mordof: try using a different mirror.  etc /etc/apt/sources.list and use cz.archive instead of us.archive or whatever.
[08:46] <Hatfield> I need help any experienced users in here?
[08:46] <Tezkah> mordof, , in canada perhaps?
[08:47] <mordof> dooglus, i also have ubuntu-docs to update in my systray.. and that wont work either
[08:47] <mordof> Tezkah, yeah.. why?
[08:47] <Hatfield> mordof
[08:47] <Mastastealth> hatfield: depends what field you need experience in ;)
[08:47] <Tezkah> the *ca* mirrors are borked
[08:47] <CarinArr> you what?
[08:47] <CarinArr> er wrong window
[08:47] <hotluck> trae, yes, with dapper everything works on mine including the sd card reader
[08:47] <mordof> GAH!
[08:47] <Hatfield> networking
[08:47] <Tezkah> I had the same problem just earlier
[08:47] <trae> hotluck, nice
[08:47] <mordof> Tezkah, k, thanks
[08:47] <Tezkah> you can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <Hatfield> filesharing, should be simple but not working
[08:47] <trae> hotluck, what res does it do?
[08:47] <Syns> where do i get gmail
[08:47] <Tezkah> just replace ca with us for now
[08:47] <Mastastealth> hatfield: ok, wuts the prob?
[08:48] <cheloo> how will i enable tcpwrapper ?
[08:48] <_jason> Syns: give me an email address and I'll send you an invite
[08:48] <hotluck> trae, i've got the wsxga+ model, works out of the box at 1680 x 1050
[08:48] <Tezkah> you may have to run "apt-get clean" and then "apt-get update"
[08:48] <trae> I really like my 15" HP dv4150us
[08:48] <trae> hotluck, --^
[08:48] <trae> but...
[08:48] <Syns> ah... google?
[08:48] <trae> it only does 1280x800 :(
[08:48] <Tezkah> syns, yeah, its google webmail
[08:48] <trae> which just isn't enough real estate
[08:48] <trae> thinking about giving this one to the wife...
[08:48] <Tezkah> sorry i cant help with evolution, I never use pop3 basedmail clients anymore
[08:48] <trae> since her desktop is dying.
[08:48] <Syns> ah, ive got to many webmails, i went with MSN dsl and those lamers gave me webmail..
[08:49] <Hatfield> well i went to filesharing i added the ubuntu cpu to my existing workgroup, winxp see's the machine, but when I try to access the ubuntu machine, the username and pw do not work? what am i doing wrong?
[08:49] <Syns> i need pop3
[08:49] <_jason> Syns: gmail does pop
[08:49] <Syns> ah..
[08:49] <Mastastealth> hatfield: have you set up the samba password?
[08:49] <dabaR> Syns: ya, they do that too, and have instructions on the gmail site.
[08:49] <Tezkah> it lets you download it, but the gmail web interface >>> pop
[08:49] <trae> I've already got a 1.6Ghz M centrino chip though.... I'd want to get something faster than this ;)
[08:49] <Hatfield> no
[08:49] <Hatfield> where is that option?
[08:49] <_jason> Syns: I agree with Tezkah on the interface
[08:49] <hotluck> trae, the top version is 1900 something resolution but seems a bit high for general use, i strain on this one sometimes
[08:50] <cheloo> !tcpwrapper
[08:50] <ubotu> cheloo: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:50] <mordof> woohoo! i changed everything from ca to cz and now its working fine, thanks for the info guys
[08:51] <Hatfield> hey mastaself?
[08:51] <Tezkah> and now your ubuntu is in czech!
[08:51] <Tezkah> hahah
[08:51] <Hatfield> how do i setup pw for samba
[08:51] <Mastastealth> hatfield: im looking :)
[08:51] <dark_light> how can i install a new font? i copied the .ttf file to /usr/share/X11/fonts and i runned fc-cache command and restarted gimp but it still doesn't look the new font
[08:51] <Hatfield> thanks
[08:51] <nickrud> dark_light: best place for fonts is /usr/share/fonts or ~/.fonts
[08:52] <freesol29> anyone have trouble with banshee on dapper alpha 4?
[08:52] <Mastastealth> hatfield: try running smbpasswd
[08:52] <dark_light> nickrud, you think if i move the font to ~/.fonts it will work?
[08:52] <Mastastealth> in console
[08:52] <Hatfield> thanks
[08:53] <sagarp> how can i make the "open terminal" appear in the context menu
[08:53] <Mastastealth> hatfield: http://ubuntuguide.org/#addeditdeletenetworkusers
[08:53] <bimberi> Hatfield: initially you'll need to 'sudo smbpasswd -a <youraccountname>' to set up the account, from then on you can simply use 'smbpasswd' to change it
[08:53] <bimberi> sagarp: install nautilus-open-terminal
[08:53] <nickrud> dark_light: yes, that's where I keep mine
[08:54] <dark_light> nickrud, there are no .fonts directory, i have to create it right?
[08:54] <nickrud> dark_light: yes
[08:54] <sagarp> bimberi thanks
[08:54] <bimberi> sagarp: yw :)
[08:54] <ems> hi
[08:54] <ems> :-(
[08:54] <HappyFool> tsk tsk
[08:54] <dabaR> Mastastealth: we don't use the ubuntuguide, it is out of date. Unless you are 100% sure that that particular advice is good still, and you have to mention to the person that uses it that other advice may be wrong.
[08:54] <ems> fuckit.ubuntu.com no longer resolves
[08:54] <HappyFool> !ubuntuguide
[08:54] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:55] <dabaR> ems?
[08:55] <ems> it use to offer free stuff
[08:55] <Hatfield> thank you so much
[08:55] <Mastastealth> oh my bad, i know that part still works tho
[08:55] <HappyFool> shipit.ubuntu.com maybe? ;)
[08:55] <Hatfield> you must be a computer genious
[08:55] <Wibble-> or one that can spell ;)
[08:55] <ems> naa
[08:55] <ems> just make fuckit.ubuntu.com resolve again
[08:56] <dark_light> nickrud, dont works, and fc-list dont list it :(
[08:56] <Charg> Could someone help me to get my tablet working? I've found some howtos on the internet, but things crashed hard when I tried that.
[08:56] <CarinArr> charg, what tablet are you using?
[08:56] <Charg> CarinArr: an acecad flair
[08:56] <CarinArr> i didn't have any problems with my wacom
[08:57] <CarinArr> aha.. no idea about that
[08:57] <nickrud> dark_light: if you look at /etc/fonts/fonts.conf, that will tell you the directories that are scanned by fc-cache
[08:57] <Hatfield> hey bimbery?
[08:57] <dabaR> pah.
[08:58] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Hatfield about nicktab
[08:58] <Hatfield> how to i make my account, a super user all the time, so i don't have to mess with the console
[08:58] <dark_light> nickrud, it's not the problem, i looked and it shows both dirs i tried. maybe the problem is with the .ttf format
[08:59] <nickrud> dark_light: no, ttf is correct. Hm, maybe try System->Preferences->Fonts and see if it shows there.
[08:59] <Hatfield> dba
[08:59] <Hatfield> dabaR whats up?
[09:00] <dabaR> Hatfield: that is a bad idea.
[09:00] <dabaR> just use the admin when you need to do admin stuff, otherwise set up everything your used needs to do so he has access.
[09:00] <Hatfield> oh yea your right
[09:00] <joga> hey, is there gphoto2 on ubuntu?
[09:00] <dark_light> nickrud, no it isn't :( fc-list don't show it too
[09:00] <dabaR> nickrud: he has the ttf package?
[09:01] <nickrud> dabaR: that's what dark_light said
[09:01] <dabaR> the msttcorefonts or so...
[09:01] <joga> I'm trying to help a friend install gphoto so she could access her camera but apt-get install gphoto2 doesn't yield any results, just saying it's unavailable but referred to
[09:01] <sloncho> hi. i try to print to pdf, but it fails. I have installed cups-pdf package. what else should I install?
[09:01] <dabaR> joga: sudo aptitude search gphoto
[09:02] <nickrud> dark_light: you could try dropping a different from your windows box into ~/.fonts, and see what happens
[09:02] <osku> onko suomalaisiiiii
[09:02] <nickrud> s/from/font from/
[09:02] <dabaR> sloncho: how does it fail? where are you printing from?
[09:02] <dark_light> hmmmm..
[09:02] <dabaR> osku: #ubuntu-fi?
[09:02] <joga> dabaR she tried apt-cache search gphoto but there were only libs and no actual program to use them...
[09:02] <Hatfield> hey can ubuntu write to NTFS????
[09:02] <dark_light> nickrud, it's not so good assume that everyone have windows installed:)
[09:02] <Hatfield> anyone
[09:02] <dark_light> nickrud, but ok i will try it
[09:03] <dabaR> Hatfield: no,.
[09:03] <nickrud> dark_light: I play the percentages ;)
[09:03] <sloncho> dabaR: I'm trying to connect to the machine so I can tell the exact message. thanks
[09:03] <dabaR> joga: /msg ubotu info gphoto2. I bet it is in universe
[09:03] <joga> dabaR ok, thanks
[09:03] <Hatfield> why is it so hard for all these linux distro's to write to ntfs this is bullshit
[09:03] <nickrud> sloncho: you need to edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, and change RunAsUser to no for cups-pdf to work
[09:04] <Hatfield> there has to be a way
[09:04] <nickrud> sloncho: there are some docs in /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf
[09:04] <dabaR> Hatfield: cause it is a proprietary FS, and m$ does not like giving away its code, or specs.
[09:04] <dabaR> Hatfield: reformat as fat32
[09:04] <Hatfield> ha
[09:04] <eric__> Hi, does anyone is familiar with the error ''FATAL: Module slamr not found'' while installing slmodem-2.6.12-9-386 on Ubuntu?
[09:04] <no_wifi_yet> how do i uncompress a rar file? i cant find rar on this computer or with synaptic!
[09:04] <Hatfield> a 120gig
[09:05] <Hatfield> will it work?
[09:05] <gean> is there any chance to use some GUI to enlarge my partition (10GB are free now, there will be no windows+wine on this laptop any longer...) Explicitly : my hda6 (/dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 )  ~30GB, should glue to the last 10GB on the hd, do i need to format first the last 10GB in ext3 ? can i use gparted or so ??
[09:05] <sloncho> nickrud: thanks. I'll try it in a minute
[09:05] <_jason> Hatfield: write a letter to bill, I'm sure he'll tell you how to write to ntfs
[09:05] <Hatfield> fuck bill
[09:05] <joga> oh and a quick apt-newbie question, how can I check if a certain package is installed?
[09:05] <lullabud> no_wifi_yet: you have to install the rar tools.
[09:05] <jerrod> does anyone how to bind a macro (Ctrl + Shift + x) to the lock screen function?
[09:05] <no_wifi_yet> lullabud, ok... where do i get them
[09:05] <Hatfield> Have yall herd of Bart PE?
[09:05] <dabaR> no_wifi_yet: unrar-free or unrar-nonfree or rar, they are in universe and multiverse, or just multiverse
[09:05] <k31th> anyone ever install kde on ubuntu ?
[09:05] <_jason> jerrod: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[09:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell k31th about kde
[09:06] <dabaR> k31th: yes, many people have. why?
[09:06] <k31th> or shall i just reinstall kubuntu
[09:06] <gean> joga : best use synaptic, click on some package in All, type some of the first letters of the package, you're there... see if it is marked. Else search for it in synaptic
[09:06] <jerrod> _jason: THanx!
[09:06] <no_wifi_yet> heh... searching unrar worked...
[09:06] <k31th> dabaR: i want kde
[09:06] <dabaR> you can just install the kubuntu-desktop package. Make sure you use aptitude if going from command line, k31th
[09:06] <Hatfield> Someone in hear know how to write to NTFS??
[09:07] <osku> #ubuntu-fi
[09:07] <nickrud> Hatfield: yes, with windows ;)
[09:07] <SoulForge> hehe
[09:07] <dabaR> osku: /j #ubuntu-fi
[09:07] <Hatfield> wrong answer i was looking for
[09:07] <Hatfield> please nickrud please tell me
[09:07] <iBalo> Hatfield: NTFS write support isn't fully implemented at the time, but expected in dapper
[09:08] <_jason> Hatfield: why do you want to write to ntfs?
[09:08] <no_wifi_yet> Hatfield, Ive done it, but its been over a year... I needed to compile ntfs-tools or something, and afterward, i was able to resize, and write to ntfs
[09:08] <maihem> Hatfield: NTFS is not really support, the on disk format of the filesystem hasn't yet been fully specified^Wreverse engineered
[09:08] <dabaR> iBalo: really? where did you see this?
[09:08] <jerrod> what's the new ubuntu going to do different?
[09:08] <Hatfield> you guys are cool
[09:08] <iBalo> Kernel 2.615!
[09:09] <dabaR> Hatfield: no, just I am cool, they are OK...:-/
[09:09] <jerrod> iBalo: me?
[09:09] <maihem> iBalo: does that have proper NTFS write support. I thought you couldn't create/delete files or change their lengths
[09:09] <dabaR> jerrod: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[09:09] <iBalo> afaik in 2.6.15 ntfs will be normally writable
[09:10] <Seveas> iBalo, still experimental
[09:10] <Tezkah> anyone have an idea why my laptop will go to sleep just fine, but its impossible ot wake i tup?  I mean, the only thing it responds to is the power button, and when i hit it it does a cold reset
[09:10] <Hatfield> when is 2.6.15 coming around?
[09:10] <Seveas> in breezy: never, in dapper: already there
[09:10] <tk> ca n anyone tell me why my sound stops working? when I reboot or logout/login it works but then it doesnt.....
[09:10] <dabaR> tk: it _then_ doesn't?
[09:11] <tk> i think it stopps working after playing an avi file, I didnt have this problem before that
[09:11] <Hatfield> how do i mount a drive in ubuntu?
[09:11] <dabaR> tk: does it at this time work? make it not work, so we can find out why.
[09:11] <Rambo3> geexbox= microsoft media center * 1000
[09:12] <dabaR> Hatfield: the command is mount. are you familiar with the online manual system?
[09:12] <maihem> tk, could you see if disabling software sound mixing in GNOME works (System->Preferences->Sound).
[09:12] <no_wifi_yet> I had to install non-free, but it extracted the files :) thanks :)
[09:13] <maihem> tk, oh, what player do you use to play the avi file?
[09:13] <k31th> ok im installing kubuntu thru apt
[09:13] <dabaR> no_wifi_yet: it is free by its price, non-free in that it is only a binary package.
[09:13] <dabaR> k31th: I told you to use aptitude.
[09:13] <Hatfield> hey dabaR have you tried Solaris 10??????
[09:13] <HappyFool> dabaR: as a matter of interest, why aptitude for kubuntu-desktop?
[09:13] <k31th> dabaR: to use wat ?
[09:14] <dabaR> HappyFool: so he can remove all the packages that came with it if he decides he does not like it. aptitude provides that functionality, apt-get does not.
[09:14] <dabaR> Hatfield: no, I have not.
[09:14] <k31th> aptitude ? that cmd line ?
[09:14] <dabaR> k31th: aptitude is a user front end to apt-get. it allows^
[09:14] <dabaR> k31th: yes, or if you used synaptic, that is fine too.
[09:15] <k31th> blah front ends
[09:15] <HappyFool> real men use dpkg, eh? ;)
[09:15] <dabaR> does anyone know how I can make my messages appear in a different color?
[09:15] <k31th> oh well iv used apt
[09:15] <HappyFool> you mean like mirc colours ? *shudder*
[09:15] <k31th> atm i cant even login to X windows
[09:15] <sloncho> nickrud: it did not help. I changed this setting and restarted cupsys. same problem. The file is postscript file, generated by the hp printer driver. I open it in Evince, and try to print as pdf. The error message is: "The generation of PDF is not supported". This is translation, so I do not know what is the exact english message
[09:15] <GTX> Guys im trying to host a mirror for ubuntu however, how do I make rsync to stop downloading new .htaccess and to put all the HEADER.html and FOOTER.html in/
[09:15] <k31th> says l;asted 10 second and loged me out
[09:16] <k31th> iv had this before
[09:16] <k31th> turned out to be perms on a files
[09:16] <k31th> on a file
[09:16] <k31th> is it a ubuntu problem ?
[09:16] <Alex_C> HEy
[09:17] <dabaR> k31th: not really, I had it on debian too. I think your /tmp has wrong permissions, or so.
[09:17] <no_wifi_yet> some luck!
[09:17] <no_wifi_yet> i have a wlan0!
[09:17] <dabaR> sloncho: but, what program are you trying to use to export as PDF? most have that as an option.
[09:18] <sloncho> dabaR: Evince. Thats what pops up when I double click on the .prn file
[09:19] <dooglus> dabaR: what makes you think that unrar-nonfree is binary only?
[09:19] <dabaR> sloncho: no idea what to tell you.
[09:19] <dabaR> dooglus: it is in multiverse?
[09:19] <sloncho> dabaR: any commandline utility to convert postscript to pdf?
[09:20] <dooglus> dabaR: the source is here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/u/unrar-nonfree/unrar-nonfree_3.4.3.orig.tar.gz
[09:20] <dabaR> sloncho: try searching with synaptic or aptitude.
[09:20] <dooglus> dabaR: it's nonfree because it uses patented algorithms, but the source is available
[09:20] <jsestri2> who can tell me what the package with gcc is?
[09:20] <dabaR> dooglus: :-/ Isn't multiverse binary only? *goes to read the components page again*
[09:20] <IdleOne> jsestri2,  build-essential
[09:21] <ndlovu> hi all. something is causing a lot of hard drive activity, and slowing down everything on my computer to frustrating levels. is there some way to see what's causing all the hard drive access, or to see if the drive is failing?
[09:21] <dooglus> dabaR: I just built it from source to check...  it's not binary only.
[09:21] <IdleOne> jsestri2,   sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:21] <soundray> sloncho: ps2pdf ?
[09:22] <no_wifi_yet> hrm... wifi still not working... maybe after a reboot ... bye
[09:22] <engla> so.. is the forum dead?
[09:22] <dabaR> dooglus: ya, nothing about the software being binary only on the components page. Oh well..
[09:22] <sloncho> soundray: just did it. thanks. dabaR and nickrud - thank you as well
[09:22] <dooglus> dabaR: where is that page?
[09:22] <binarydigit> engla: i think it just went down
[09:22] <tk> sorry guys, got distracted
[09:22] <engla> ;_;
[09:22] <tk> no it doesnt work now and I use the default one
[09:22] <tk> T? uhm
[09:22] <soulreaper_> hi there... i want to install the java sdk... should i use the download from sun or should this be used: "deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ breezy java"?
[09:23] <IdleOne> !java
[09:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:23] <tk> totem
[09:23] <soulreaper_> !javadebs
[09:23] <soulreaper_> hmm :)
[09:24] <geargolem> Hello.  Scanimage -L has detected my scanner but I have yet to get it to scan through Gimp or otherwise.  I have a hp 4400c scanjet.  What must I do?
[09:24] <IdleOne> !scan
[09:24] <ubotu> IdleOne: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:25] <tk> mahiem: dont have a software mixing option under that control
[09:25] <IdleOne> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[09:27] <lwizardl> hi
[09:27] <ndlovu> any tools out there to see what processes are accessing /dev/hda?
[09:27] <dabaR> dooglus: ask ubotu about components
[09:27] <dabaR> something like http://www.ubuntu.com/about/components
[09:28] <dabaR> That should really be the page linked in !repos
[09:28] <dabaR> Or just add it to that factoid as an also
[09:28] <VR^> man i cant wait for dapper
[09:29] <maihem> tk, okay, I asked that question due to your first description, which was incomplete, so forget that line of reasoning.
[09:29] <jerware> fellaz
[09:30] <LycoLoco> hey jerware
[09:30] <IdleOne> heya jerware
[09:30] <engla> yay. Forum back after brief absence
[09:30] <lwizardl> Hi
[09:30] <k31th> sweet fixed it
[09:30] <k31th> for some reason kde tried running in 2000X summink ress at 85 hz
[09:31] <jerware> im a C\C++ programmer, and by defualt i ububntu doesent provide system calls and library calls man pages
[09:31] <soundray> VR^: well, then don't :)
[09:31] <tk> maihem: ok its happened twice now and both times its been after playing an AVI in totem as far as I can tell
[09:31] <tk> but when I logout it will play...
[09:31] <lwizardl> anyone know of any places to get free (k)ubuntu cd's mailed to you (not cd-r's)
[09:31] <jerware> what directory are all manpages listed?
[09:31] <LycoLoco> lwizardl: you should be able to get it from ubuntu.com
[09:31] <jerware> and where can i get library and system manpages for ubuntu
[09:31] <Mastastealth> lwizardl: you can get ubuntu CDs, not sure about kubuntu, atleasst not until the LiveCD feature is combined into the install
[09:32] <VR^> soundray: i dont have a test machine
[09:32] <dabaR> jerware: installed build-essentialk
[09:32] <lwizardl> LycoLoco: thats just the ubuntu ones not K or KDU
[09:32] <lwizardl> *EDU
[09:32] <LycoLoco> ahh, sorry, didn't see the K
[09:32] <jerware> dabaR:  do i apt-get that?.    as in apt-get install build-essentialk
[09:32] <lwizardl> LycoLoco: np :)
[09:32] <IdleOne> jerware,  sudo apt-get build-essential
[09:33] <LycoLoco> lwizardl: I think you could probably do a custom order and ask for it
[09:33] <IdleOne> jerware,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:33] <soundray> VR^: how about a parallel install?
[09:33] <dabaR> jerware: typo
[09:33] <lwizardl> LycoLoco: yeah i thought about that
[09:33] <jerware> thanx fellaz
[09:33] <VR^> soundray: my hd is only 20gb, filled with stuff :(
[09:33] <IdleOne> jerware,  np
[09:33] <ariel_> hello i installed realplayer and now realplayer won't start and firefox won't open any help?
[09:33] <dabaR> jerware: I am not sure it is there, though...
[09:34] <dabaR> that is the pacvkage for gcc and other dev related pkgs
[09:34] <jerware> lets give it a try
[09:34] <jerware> test criteria being man socket
[09:34] <ariel_> also synaptic won't open either
[09:34] <dabaR> ariel_: how did you install it?
[09:34] <ariel_> using the faq
[09:34] <dabaR> ariel_: and do you get errors when you try opening?
[09:35] <dabaR> !faq
[09:35] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <ariel_> holdon let me see
[09:35] <IdleOne> jerware,  this what you looking for? libwvstreams4.0c2-extras - C++ network libraries for rapid application developme nt
[09:35] <IdleOne> jerware try apt-cache search man
[09:35] <ariel_> when opening firefox says LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXext.so [libXext.so: cannot o pen shared object file: No such file or directory] 
[09:36] <slabby> hi
[09:36] <ariel_> when i type RealPlayer it doesn't open
[09:36] <dabaR> !find libXext.so
[09:36] <Bean> The GAIM packaged with ubuntu doesn't support libao ?
[09:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libXext.so' (3 shown): (/usr/lib/libXext.so) in libdevel/libxext-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libXext.so.6|libXext.so.6.4.1}) in libs/libxext6 ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libXext.so.6.4.1) in libdevel/libxext6-dbg.
[09:36] <slabby> can anyone give me a hand with the ship-it cd service?
[09:37] <jerware> Idleone: well it is not just strictly networking libraries.
[09:37] <IdleOne> slabby,  what do you need help with?
[09:37] <IdleOne> jerware try apt-cache search man
[09:37] <slabby> i put in my order about a week ago
[09:37] <Alex_C> Hey
[09:37] <slabby> and nothing has happened
[09:37] <Alex_C> does anyone know if 3DS Max will run on Linux with Wine or another emulator?
[09:37] <slabby> when should they come?
[09:37] <IdleOne> slabby,  takes 4 to 6 weeks
[09:37] <dabaR> '\
[09:37] <slabby> ok, thanks
[09:38] <_jason> Bean: for?
[09:38] <slabby> im a noob to linux but looking to learn
[09:38] <IdleOne> slabby,  you wont regret it
[09:38] <Spudchat> and ideas on some resources for setting up ident in breezy to work for irc?
[09:38] <dabaR> !find libXext.so
[09:38] <oscar> slabby, it is probably easier to download and burn the cds yourself, or get a friend to do it
[09:38] <Verithrax> Is it possible to use Debian repositories with Ubuntu?
[09:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libXext.so' (3 shown): (/usr/lib/libXext.so) in libdevel/libxext-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libXext.so.6|libXext.so.6.4.1}) in libs/libxext6 ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libXext.so.6.4.1) in libdevel/libxext6-dbg.
[09:39] <IdleOne> oscar,  true but it's nice having the printed cd's :)
[09:39] <ariel_> yeah so how do i fix this? any suggestions?
[09:39] <jerware> hmm strange, apt was working fine the other day, now when i do apt-cache and apt-get on some packages i get a page of errors.  i have the breezy repositories according to the ubuntu page.  here is my source.list file and the warnings.  am i missing any repos or are there conflicts?
[09:39] <soundray> Verithrax: possible, but not recommended and likely to lead you into trouble.
[09:39] <slabby> thanks, I am downloading the x64 version for myself but I have a few friends who want the other version but i havent the time to download them for them aswell
[09:39] <jerware> i cut and pasted as the web page said, and then i replaced breezy wtih hoary
[09:39] <jerware> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/jV4P2I40.html
[09:39] <oscar> IdleOne, true, but i wouldnt want to wait so long
[09:39] <slabby> so wanted to get cds sent for them
[09:39] <_jason> jerware: sudo apt-get update
[09:39] <dabaR> ariel_: install libxext-dev maybe to fix firefox.
[09:39] <k31th> humm ok its running ym desktop in 1920 X 1440
[09:40] <slabby> where is the best place to start for programming linux?
[09:40] <IdleOne> oscar,  I didnt mind the because I didnt have the pc to install at the time I ordered
[09:40] <ariel_> alright
[09:40] <slabby> ive previously been using vb, html that kind of thing
[09:40] <jsestri2> anyone know the mythtv package?
[09:40] <dabaR> jerware: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org,please. Also, post errors that you get from apt, anf output of "cat /etc/issue"
[09:40] <IdleOne> !mythtv
[09:40] <k31th> slabby: vi ?
[09:40] <ubotu> from memory, mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[09:40] <slabby> vb (visual basic)
[09:41] <Verithrax> I'm trying to get ScummVM installed, but the Ubuntu repositories don't have the deps I need.
[09:41] <k31th> wat no
[09:41] <k31th> vb is the suck
[09:41] <dabaR> :)
[09:41] <slabby> lol, easy 1st lang though
[09:41] <k31th> no
[09:41] <k31th> its shit
[09:41] <k31th> learn some thing usefull
[09:41] <dabaR> no need to flame...
[09:41] <k31th> dont learn a lang for the sake of learning a 1st lanf
[09:42] <slabby> well ive started on c++ but decided I wanted to try a linux lang instead
[09:42] <k31th> make some thing thats the best way
[09:42] <k31th> perl ?
[09:42] <IdleOne> k31th,  dont get all in an uproar over and watch the language please. my virgin eyes :)
[09:42] <k31th> or some scripting lang
[09:42] <LycoLoco> Verithrax: what game do you wanna play?
[09:42] <recon00> Ok, so I installed everything that showed up from "apt-cache search swf", but when I double-click on a flash file, it comes up with the stuff at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9458
[09:42] <k31th> IdleOne: sorry
[09:42] <slabby> perl, isnt that out of the window now
[09:42] <slabby> is perl used in linux?
[09:42] <dabaR> slabby: c++ is fine. perl is cool. it is all good. python too.
[09:42] <Verithrax> LucasArts classics, MI1 MI2, S&M, DoTT.
[09:43] <thegladiator> slabby, perl is in linux
[09:43] <dabaR> slabby: perl is a web lang, mostly lately, but used everywhere, really.
[09:43] <psusi> k31th: you said that like C++ is not "a linux lang"
[09:43] <slabby> ok
[09:43] <spikebike> web language?
[09:43] <thegladiator> slabby, perl os open source and linux has it as one of the packages , at least most of them
[09:43] <k31th> no i did not
[09:43] <k31th> i did not mention c++
[09:43] <recon00> I'm having trouble playing flash files (.swf). ok, so I installed everything that showed up from "apt-cache search swf", but when I double-click on a flash file, it comes up with the stuff at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9458
[09:43] <thegladiator> perl is just a programming language
[09:43] <slabby> so should i go for perl or perhaps python
[09:43] <psusi> k31th: my bad, that was slabby
[09:43] <thegladiator> my choice is python
[09:44] <dabaR> !find flash
[09:44] <k31th> you should go with watever you want to learn
[09:44] <slabby> will invest in some books when i know what i want
[09:44] <Apollo> Anyone know how to get a mounted NTFS drive to appear in "Computer"?  It did when I first mounted it somehow... but now it doesn't anymore. :(
[09:44] <spikebike> every language has it's advantages
[09:44] <IdleOne> !mount
[09:44] <ubotu> I guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:44] <k31th> slabby: there is a lern.perl.org iirc
[09:44] <k31th> learn
[09:44] <slabby> cool
[09:44] <dabaR> flashplayer-mozilla, flashplugin-nonfree are two flash plugins..
[09:44] <thegladiator> slabby, slightly offtopic , but you are thinking of jobs etc , perl is better option , but I like python since it is  simple and effective and fun to lun
[09:45] <thegladiator> #perl  , #python on irc.freenode.org ; check out
[09:45] <Apollo> I've got the drive mounted... I just want to know why it isn't showing up in "computer".
[09:45] <recon00> dabaR: I installed both of them, but I get the screenshot of the error I get in
[09:45] <recon00> k31th learn some thing usefull
[09:45] <recon00> dabaR no need to flame...
[09:45] <recon00> k31th dont learn a lang for the sake of learning a 1st lanf
[09:45] <recon00> slabby well ive started on c++ but decided I wanted to try a linux lang instead
[09:45] <recon00> k31th make some thing thats the best way
[09:45] <recon00> k31th perl ?
[09:45] <recon00> IdleOne k31th,  dont get all in an uproar over and watch the language please. my virgin eyes :)
[09:45] <thegladiator> Apollo, maybe it will right after a erstart /
[09:45] <thegladiator> restart*
[09:46] <thegladiator> it happens sometimes in my system
[09:46] <Ruy> hi everybody
[09:46] <Ruy> *
[09:46] <Apollo> thegladiator: After a restart... it STOPPED showing up in "Computer" sadly. :(
[09:46] <dabaR> recon00: flame what?
[09:46] <Apollo> It was there.
[09:46] <thegladiator> what device is it ?  a cd/dvd rom drive ?
[09:46] <soundray> dabaR: I think it was an accidental paste.
[09:46] <Apollo> thegladiator:  It's my NTFS partition.
[09:46] <Ruy> does anybody knows ahy i can't make d4x works??
[09:46] <elephanthunter> Strange... the ubotu entry I modified has been changed back.
[09:47] <slabby> so possibly me worth trying python for some fun in linux
[09:47] <Ruy> i installed once and worked, but just two days
[09:47] <Ruy> after that, it's gone
[09:47] <Ruy> nothing happens
[09:47] <ech0wave> im a n00b can anyone just tell me how to access the shell....i can get the run screen and all my books and guides assume that i can get to the shell by meyself
[09:47] <soundray> ech0wave: Applications-Accessories-Terminal
[09:48] <thegladiator> !terminal
[09:48] <slabby> what do you lot use for IRC in ubuntu?
[09:48] <IdleOne> !tell ech0wave  about cli
[09:48] <elephanthunter> ubotu no, automatix is <reply> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation. See !easyubuntu.
[09:48] <jerware> well at least ap-get intall gcc-docs is half assed.  it has an entry for socket, yes.  but jack squat for htnl, conntect, bind, or even fgets and scanf.
[09:48] <ubotu> okay, elephanthunter
[09:48] <_JECKEL_> hi there
[09:48] <ech0wave> thanks soundray... first day on linux
[09:48] <slabby> what do you lot use for IRC in ubuntu?
[09:48] <_JECKEL_> I have a problem..why does my terminal tell me that there is no make command?
[09:49] <LycoLoco> slabby: I use xchat
[09:49] <ech0wave> i like to jump right in on it
[09:49] <_JECKEL_> apt-get is cool and all..but sometimes ya know..i'd like to make shiz.
[09:49] <LycoLoco> haha
[09:49] <soundray> _JECKEL_: you need to sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:49] <thegladiator> Xchat here as well , I have some DCC problems and thats when I switch to Konv
[09:49] <_JECKEL_> ok
[09:49] <IdleOne> thegladiator,  install identd
[09:50] <LycoLoco> slabby: I don't use DCC much, so I can't testify to its usages
[09:50] <_JECKEL_> thanks
[09:50] <thegladiator> for DCC ?
[09:50] <IdleOne> xchat doesnt come with a ident server so you need to install it seperate
[09:50] <LycoLoco> yeah
[09:50] <thegladiator> how do I install identd ? from synaptic ? why is it required ?
[09:50] <Ruy> so, nobody can help me please? i'm tryin' to use d4x
[09:50] <thegladiator> IdleOne,  ?
[09:50] <_JECKEL_> I usually use mIRC in wine for my roleplay channels
[09:50] <_JECKEL_> X-chat for everything else
[09:50] <_JECKEL_> problem with mIRC in wine is that I can't create new aliases with it.
[09:51] <IdleOne> thegladiator,  best I can tell you is its needed for dcc on irc .google for more info :)
[09:51] <Verithrax> ScummVM works fine under Ubuntu if you get LibFLAC from the deb repos, it seems.
[09:51] <thegladiator> Sure thanks :) never knew this actually
[09:51] <LycoLoco> Verithrax: I"ll have to keep that in mind
[09:51] <_JECKEL_> ok. thanks all!
[09:51] <ploom> guess the ident server wont be any use, when being behind a firewall (or kind of an adsl)?
[09:51] <slabby> is wine free for ubuntu?
[09:51] <Verithrax> Wine is free anywhere.
[09:52] <thegladiator> slabby, yes
[09:52] <IdleOne> slabby,  wine is FREE
[09:52] <slabby> k
[09:52] <soundray> Ruy: I don't know d4x, but maybe it'll help if you specify your problem more precisely.
[09:52] <slabby> lol
[09:52] <thegladiator> but wine is not free :)
[09:52] <slabby> you lot regulars in here?
[09:52] <k31th> always
[09:52] <k31th> i drink here often
[09:52] <billy> hi everyone! i got a real newbie question - couldn't find any answer in the forums: how do i enable display of boot messages?
[09:52] <Verithrax> LycoLoco: No worries. Hopefully Universe will include libflac and scummvm eventually.
[09:53] <k31th> billy: with a VDU
[09:53] <LycoLoco> How do you get something added to a repository?
[09:53] <slabby> is there good BT software out for linux?
[09:53] <stjepan> hello
[09:53] <Ruy> soundray: thanks it's a download manager i get it from de synaptic, so it worked fine about two days, whit a nice interface, but suddendly it collapsed and nothing happens now
[09:53] <stjepan> anyone here tried XGL?
[09:53] <billy> none of the function keys worked
[09:53] <thegladiator> azureus for BT
[09:53] <k31th> British telecom ?
[09:53] <LycoLoco> slabby: azureus is good, but it's very intensive
[09:53] <Ruy> no work at all
[09:53] <Verithrax> Is there any way I can uncompress a .rar file under Linux?
[09:53] <k31th> Verithrax: unrar
[09:53] <oscar> stjepan, yes
[09:53] <LycoLoco> slabby: keep on the lookout for a uTorrent port for linux
[09:53] <Ruy> -sorry my english, y speak spanish-
[09:53] <slabby> i use azeurus for windows
[09:53] <soundray> Ruy: did you do a lot of configuration?
[09:53] <k31th> slabby: you can use it for nix
[09:53] <LycoLoco> slabby: then you'll be right at home
[09:54] <slabby> i cant get the hang of utorrent
[09:54] <slabby> tried it for windows
[09:54] <thegladiator> someone was saying about identd for DCC , where can I find it ?
[09:54] <LycoLoco> slabby: really?
[09:54] <LycoLoco> what are you missing?
[09:54] <k31th> its Open, it whores but its got some great features
[09:54] <psusi> azureus sucks... damn bloated buggy slow java crap... bit tornado rules
[09:54] <maihem> billy: I think you can uninstall usplash then run some command to remake the initramfs, but I can't remember what it is :/
[09:54] <stjepan> oscar: you tried it?
[09:54] <soundray> billy: make sure VERBOSE is set to yes in /etc/default/rcS
[09:54] <k31th> psusi: lol
[09:54] <thegladiator> actually to tell you the truth utiorrent is good
[09:54] <thegladiator> i am thinking of trying it under wine
[09:54] <spiritz> I broken my gnome settings. I'd like to reset it to default settings. I deleted dir ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 but this is not enough; where does gnome store users' settings?
[09:54] <rob__> hoi
[09:54] <oscar> stjepan, yes, in dapper testing, running it now
[09:55] <LycoLoco> spiritz: you sure it's not something wrong in your home director?
[09:55] <geargolem> my scanner was detected through a USB port but still won't work.
[09:55] <stjepan> great
[09:55] <thegladiator> Java does have a native compiler ! everything is slow , it uses virtual machine
[09:55] <LycoLoco> directory(
[09:55] <stjepan> oscar: pls open private chat with me ;] 
[09:55] <thegladiator> I mean we dont use it I guess
[09:55] <nickrud> spiritz: in .gconfd ; but you need to remove that dir when gnome is not running. Log out, hit ctl-alt-f1, login and delete it there
[09:55] <spiritz> LycoLoco: actually yes it is; but I don't know which dir to delete
[09:55] <spiritz> ok thx nickrud
[09:55] <maihem> spiritz: .gconf .gconfd .gconf anything, then some gconf binary cache directory somewhere, then probably some other place too ...
[09:55] <jbaloul> i am trying to setup tightvncserver on a server install and i got all the pkgs that worked on hoary (now setup for breezy)...and i am getting this error: could not open default font 'fixed'
[09:56] <thegladiator> does anyone know what is idntd for ? Xchat /dcc context ? how do I install this ? thanks
[09:56] <nickrud> spiritz: also, do ps -A | grep gconf, if you see it kill it first
[09:56] <slabby> which are your favourite BT sites?
[09:56] <LycoLoco> ident lets the server know who you are
[09:56] <MachineScrew> it there a MythTV type of thing with out the TV PVR funtionality
[09:56] <soundray> Ruy, many programs store per-user configuration items in a directory or file called "~/.programname". So try "rm -rf ~/.d4x" to start over with the configuration. Danger: don't mistype.
[09:56] <thegladiator> identd*
[09:56] <spiritz> thanks, I'll try that
[09:56] <thegladiator> slabby, this is ubuntu channel dude
[09:56] <slabby> which are your favourite BT sites?
[09:56] <LycoLoco> slabby: torrentz, mininova
[09:56] <slabby> oops
[09:56] <stjepan> oscar: what card?
[09:56] <thegladiator> not BT channl :)
[09:56] <spiritz> brb
[09:56] <slabby> :)
[09:56] <bubba> so... who said i couldnt get a wireless card working in breezy for amd64!
[09:56] <bubba> woot!
[09:56] <MachineScrew> I am looking for somthing that will play movies and Music and pictures and Web
[09:56] <k31th> bubba: not I
[09:56] <Ruy> soundray: thanks i'll try
[09:57] <slabby> bubba: what card?
[09:57] <LycoLoco> bubba: what card?
[09:57] <LycoLoco> lol
[09:57] <k31th> MachineScrew: try a AV application
[09:57] <bubba> broadcom 4318
[09:57] <oscar> stjepan, nvidia 6200 go
[09:57] <k31th> apt-cache search ?
[09:57] <thegladiator> soundray, do you know about activating SDCC related things in Xhat , someone said about identd ?
[09:57] <Mastastealth> lol k31th
[09:57] <BockBilbo> is it possiblo to extract .bin cd image files in ubuntu?
[09:57] <MachineScrew> k31th
[09:57] <k31th> yo
[09:57] <slabby> i may need to get a netgear wireless card working for ubuntu
[09:57] <MachineScrew> k31th, wich one
[09:57] <soundray> thegladiator: sorry, no idea.
[09:57] <sdh> hm
[09:58] <k31th> MachineScrew: vlc, mplayer ? xine ?
[09:58] <sdh> using apt/dpkg how can i say "what package do i have to install to get file foo?"
[09:58] <k31th> the choice is yours
[09:58] <k31th> sdh: wat ?
[09:58] <thegladiator> LycoLoco, thanks how do I install it?
[09:58] <MachineScrew> k31th, no I guess you don't under stand
[09:58] <bubba> and it only took about 20 hours of copious reading and trial and error (mosty error)
[09:58] <soundray> sdh, ah, that's a difficult one.
[09:58] <geargolem> steps to make a detected scanner through a usb port scan?
[09:58] <slabby> is it really hard to get a wireless card running for ubuntu??
[09:58] <thegladiator> LycoLoco, didnt see your reply before as you didnt use "tab"
[09:58] <k31th> MachineScrew: do u want a browser plugin to play windows in your browser?
[09:58] <ech0wave> hey thanks for your guys' help and will prob be back soon *first day w/linux and already loving it*
[09:58] <LycoLoco> thegladiator: honestly, I'm not sure, sorry :-\
[09:58] <MachineScrew> k31th, I am looking for an interface like mythtv to xine and a web browser
[09:58] <sdh> soundray: i'm sure there's a way - i know in different distros ;-)
[09:59] <k31th> to play videos not windows !
[09:59] <k31th> oh
[09:59] <UberShrike> BockBilbo: have you looked into dd
[09:59] <lullabud> slabby: no, most work by default.
[09:59] <k31th> i dunno
[09:59] <soundray> sdh, you'd have to install apt-file
[09:59] <thegladiator> LycoLoco, no , do you know what to install in xchat ? to get it working ?DCC i mean ?
[09:59] <sdh> sounds good
[09:59] <Mastastealth> sdh: sudo apt-get install package -s
[09:59] <MachineScrew> k31th, I am trying to make a PMP
[09:59] <slabby> lullabud: ok thanks
[09:59] <bubba> none of the 20 or so set of instructions worked :( but experimenting with drivers not for my card worked.
[09:59] <thegladiator> LycoLoco, no problem*
[09:59] <MachineScrew> Portable Media Player
[09:59] <k31th> MachineScrew: so u can stream video in  browser
[09:59] <nickrud> sdh: you can search for files on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:59] <Apollo> Does anyone know how to get partitions to show up in "Computer"?  On the Ubuntu Forums, they said if you mount them under /media/ then it should automatically show up there.  My NTFS partition isn't for some reason.
[09:59] <k31th> theres a plugin for mplayer that does that if im follow correctly ?
[09:59] <BockBilbo> UberShrike, nope
[09:59] <stjepan> oscar: what version of dapper do you use? 3 or 4?
[09:59] <soundray> Mastastealth: you must be confusing something.
[10:00] <MachineScrew> k31th, no from the HD
[10:00] <BockBilbo> UberShrike, bb= bulletin board?
[10:00] <oscar> stjepan, 4 (gnome)
[10:00] <sdh> apt-file did it, thanks
[10:00] <thegladiator> people who are on dapper , do you feel there is an improvement overall ? except for the crashes ? talking about the improved software packages i.e
[10:00] <sdh> i think anyway
[10:00] <bubba> and the only way i could get it working was to not disable acpi.
[10:00] <Mastastealth> why soundray?
[10:01] <soundray> thegladiator: yes.
[10:01] <thegladiator> like nautilus , gnome , other softwares , I heard gimp is improved
[10:01] <k31th> how do i set which app opens wat type of file in kubuntu ? in gnome i just right click
[10:01] <bubba> so, i have to fix my acpi :(
[10:01] <UberShrike> BockBilbo: I also know you can mount images with "mount" though not sure of syntax
[10:01] <soundray> Mastastealth: -s is for simulation mode. It won't help with what sdh asked for.
[10:01] <spiritz> Still a problem with my gnome settings; I'd like to reset everything. doing rm -fr on ~/.gconf & ~/.gconfd was not enough; any other clue?
[10:01] <Apollo> thegladiator: Breezy had some weird Network-glitch with my ACPI... Dapper fixed those incompatibility issues.
[10:01] <thegladiator> ah hats good news then
[10:01] <oscar> thegladiator, yes xgl and compiz eyecandy, better networking
[10:01] <k31th> its ok found it
[10:01] <MachineScrew> kiosk type of a thing for GNOME
[10:01] <BockBilbo> UberShrike, thanks anyway
[10:01] <BockBilbo> :)
[10:01] <Mastastealth> sdh said ""what package do i have to install to get file foo?""
[10:01] <jsestri2> anyone know howto install mythtv?
[10:02] <thegladiator> oscar, eye candy stuffs need gfx card ? mine is like s3 unichrome shared
[10:02] <Mastastealth> with simulation you can see the packages needed for a file no?
[10:02] <soundray> thegladiator: problem is, Openoffice won't work at the moment on amd64
[10:02] <Mastastealth> i just did it on my machine...
[10:02] <geargolem> sane-find-scanner detects my scanner but it doesn't scan
[10:02] <slabby> Im off for noe expect to see me back soon :)
[10:02] <slabby> *now
[10:02] <spikebike> soundray it works fine, in it's 32 bit incarnation
[10:02] <Mastastealth> and it listed the files it would need for a certain package
[10:02] <thegladiator> ah bugs
[10:02] <lullabud> jsestri2: did you search for mythtv in synaptic?
[10:02] <Mastastealth> unless thats not what he wants either...
[10:02] <thegladiator> slabby, later :)
[10:02] <bubba> jsestri2, there are many howto's online... i tried about a month ago... failed.. im going to try again soon
[10:03] <shishi_> hello all
[10:03] <soundray> Mastastealth: he's sorted anyway. The question was: if I know I need file XY, but don't know what package it is in, how do I find out the package name?
[10:03] <shishi_> i have problem with selinux
[10:03] <jsestri2> lullabud: there's a libmyth thing that says its the mythtv core libraries, but no runtime package
[10:03] <geargolem> scanner.....     no workie.....    helpie....
[10:03] <ndlovu> is it a bad sign if your hard drive makes grinding noises and is frustratingly slow :-\ ?
[10:03] <shishi_> i have this : policyvers value 0 not in range 15-20
[10:03] <shishi_> how can i fix this ?
[10:04] <soundray> geargolem: assume you are talking to adults here.
[10:04] <cwillu> anybody know a straightforward way to disallow some domains from running _any_ javascript in firefox/mozilla/seamonkey?
[10:04] <kybishop> is sndconfig compatible with ubuntu, or is there a program like it?
[10:04] <geargolem> soundray, that didn't work either
[10:04] <lullabud> jsestri2: you may not have the right repositories enabled.  i've enabled them all and i'm getting a bunch of mythtv stuff.  try enabling more repositories, like universe.
[10:05] <progrock> My CPU sits at 100% for minutes at a time... i think its from me changing stuff in the NetworkManager applet... anhone know how to fix this problem?
[10:05] <Baby> hallo,
[10:05] <mathias> join /ubuntu-bugs
[10:05] <soundray> geargolem: making yourself unpopular will just make it worse. Come back in an hour, maybe by then someone has joined who knows an answer for you.
[10:05] <thegladiator> lemme fix a lemon juice , ciao
[10:05] <geargolem> soundray, thanks.   will do that.
[10:06] <ariel_> anyone know what i can do?  i installed RealPlayer and now i can't get firefox to work or synaptic
[10:06] <ariel_> firefox says LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library libXext.so [libXext.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] 
[10:06] <ariel_> Segmentation fault
[10:07] <jbaloul> vncserver: could not open default font 'fixed'
[10:07] <sdh> hmm
[10:07] <sdh> i need gtk-config for gtk2
[10:07] <sdh> ubuntu seems not to have one
[10:08] <soundray> ariel_: if synaptic doesn't work, it could be that an apt-get process is still running or hanging.
[10:08] <ariel_> soundray how do i terminate it?
[10:08] <soundray> ariel_: the firefox prob may be fixable with sudo apt-get --reinstall install libxext6
[10:09] <soundray> ariel_, find out what it is with ps ax | grep apt -- or just do a reboot.
[10:09] <spikebike> heh
[10:09] <spikebike> oops
[10:09] <jbaloul> Font directory '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/' not found - ignoring
[10:10] <MachineScrew> k31th, i found matchbox
[10:10] <k31th> sweet
[10:10] <k31th> hows that working out
[10:10] <k31th> are you two happy together ?
[10:10] <soundray> sdh, not sure if that's what you really need, but there is a gtk-config binary in libgtk1.2-dev
[10:10] <billy> thanks for the answer concerning usplash. now that i know the name, i'm going to configure it. setting verbose worked.
[10:11] <sdh> soundray: thanks, unfortunately that outputs info for gtk1.2 (i.e. 1.2 includes, libraries)
[10:11] <sdh> soundray: bit strange that there is not one for gtk2
[10:11] <soundray> ariel_ if you know the process ID, you can do 'kill [pid] ' or 'kill -9 [pid] '
[10:12] <soundray> sdh, do other distributions have that?
[10:12] <sdh> soundray: i think so...
[10:12] <sdh> soundray: it's something that i'm fairly sure i've had from source
[10:13] <mjr> gtk2 uses pkg-config
[10:13] <sdh> i stand corrected, sorry
[10:13] <scot31337> hey guys - where is firefox 1.07 located @ so I can update it to 1.501 ?
[10:13] <Mastastealth> scot: you gotta use automatix or sumthin
[10:13] <thegladiator> scot31337,  !firefox
[10:13] <Mastastealth> otherwise wait till dapper
[10:13] <thegladiator> doesnt that work ?
[10:13] <scot31337> !firefox
[10:13] <purplefeltangel> my updates thing says Ubuntu-docs isn't authenticated.  whats the matter?
[10:13] <soundray> !ff1.5
[10:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:14] <scot31337> tx :)
[10:15] <thegladiator> how do you set this quitting message in xchat ?
[10:15] <LycoLoco> I'd just like to give a big thank you to this community and making my first run in Ubuntu successful
[10:16] <LycoLoco> thegladiator: go to your preferences, then under general chatting, change the default messages
[10:16] <thegladiator> thank you
[10:19] <jerware> are all man pages in the same directory?
[10:19] <dooglus> jerware: no
[10:19] <jerware> that sucks
[10:19] <jerware> i would just coppied the oned from fedora to ubuntu
[10:19] <dooglus> jerware: they're split up into chapters
[10:20] <Syns> do i need anything else besides vlc to watch internet tv?
[10:20] <CyCloBot> anyone here
[10:20] <lizandbobby_> can anyone think of a reason that this machine might not have printer setting in system?
[10:20] <iBalo> !codeca
[10:20] <ubotu> iBalo: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:20] <iBalo> !codecs
[10:20] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[10:20] <andax> i have an amilo 1640 notebook, and I have some trouble with pcmcia. lspci output does not display the card in the slot, and cardctl status says both slots are empty.  (breezy) So how to access the pcmcia card?
[10:20] <iBalo> Syns: ^^^^^
[10:20] <Syns> whats that suppose to mean?
[10:21] <dooglus> Syns: they were arrows, pointing up at what ubotu said
[10:21] <purplefeltangel> my updates thing says Ubuntu-docs isn't authenticated.  whats the matter?
[10:21] <iBalo> Syns: you'll need the codecs... ask ubotu about codecs and easysource
[10:21] <thegladiator> Syns, you need them to run certain video formats
[10:22] <thegladiator> where I can se screenshot of ubuntu users beides google search ?
[10:22] <thegladiator> I am at the forum
[10:22] <Passion> I installed and set Xgl on my laptop sucessfully, but DRI option became off. anyone have the same problem? The video driver is i810.
[10:22] <Syns> !easysource
[10:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:22] <CyCloBot> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop but when it detects hardware it freezes at 86% were it loads module "ide-cd" for "Linux ATAPI CD-ROM". any help?
[10:22] <dooglus> thegladiator: what do you want to see?
[10:22] <dooglus> ubuntu users are usually in front on the keyboard, not on the screen
[10:22] <thegladiator> screenshots of ubuntu desktops
[10:22] <thegladiator> lol
[10:22] <diGVargur> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p conf.hub  -
[10:22] <diGVargur> bash: ./psotnic: cannot execute binary file
[10:22] <diGVargur> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$
[10:22] <diGVargur> need help
[10:23] <soundray> CyCloBot: that would be typical for a broken install CD.
[10:23] <CyCloBot> would be cd rom have anything to do with it?
[10:23] <bubba> !DSDT
[10:23] <ubotu> bubba: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:23] <thegladiator> screenshots means shots of the screem , of user means , pertaining to or something like that lol
[10:23] <soundray> CyCloBot: not if it works for other purposes.
[10:24] <Syns> !easysource
[10:24] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:24] <oscar> thegladiator, click gallery at the top
[10:24] <CyCloBot> so what do i do?
[10:24] <dooglus> thegladiator: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=582&slide=1
[10:24] <maxkelley> say, does anyone have mpd streaming to icecast, or know how to compile the cvs version of mpd?
[10:24] <oscar> thegladiator, http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/
[10:24] <thegladiator>  thanks oscar
[10:24] <soundray> CyCloBot: we are talking about the installation right? Not the first boot after installation?
[10:24] <thegladiator> thanks dooglus
[10:24] <maxkelley> anyoneoneoneoene? :P
[10:25] <thegladiator> this is mine -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9460
[10:25] <CyCloBot> installation
[10:26] <maxkelley> thegladiator: what distro?
[10:26] <soundray> CyCloBot: best to burn a new install CD-R.
[10:26] <dyrne> CyCloBot: maybe also download image again
[10:26] <CyCloBot> ok, do i download i386?
[10:26] <thegladiator> maxkelley, ubuntu ofcourse
[10:26] <oscar> thegladiator, http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=2073&original=1&c=13
[10:26] <maxkelley> thegladiator: erm, wm I meant :)
[10:26] <dooglus> thegladiator: do you play at FICS?
[10:27] <soundray> CyCloBot: unless you have an Apple Mac, yes.
[10:27] <thegladiator> dooglus, no , ICC but how did you guess that ?
[10:27] <CyCloBot> ok
[10:27] <dooglus> thegladiator: your 'Jin' icon
[10:27] <CyCloBot> do i need the jidgo and list files?
[10:27] <CyCloBot> or just the iso
[10:27] <thegladiator> ah :)
[10:28] <NickGarvey> !paste
[10:28] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:28] <soundray> CyCloBot: just the iso.
[10:28] <maxkelley> pooding.
[10:28] <CyCloBot> k thanks
[10:28] <thegladiator> do you dooglus ?
[10:28] <maxkelley> HELAWO UBUNTITES~
[10:29] <Anca> what's gtkboard and what can I do to make it run?
[10:29] <maxkelley> Anca: do a man gtkboard
[10:30] <evilbulgarian> hi, does anyone know where i can find a package for cacti 0.8.6g?
[10:30] <Anca> thanks maxkelley, if I can find the terminal :s
[10:30] <soundray> Anca: to read about the package: apt-cache show gtkboard -- to install it: sudo apt-get install gtkboard
[10:30] <maxkelley> evilbulgarian: do you have the universe, multiverse, and restricted repos enabled?
[10:30] <NickGarvey> why am I getting this error?
[10:30] <NickGarvey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9461
[10:30] <maxkelley> Anca: Programs > Accessories > Terminal
[10:31] <Anca> soundray, I uninstalled some packages and allof a sudden I have to type "startx" in order to start the thingie... and it defaults to gnome, in thich I am lost
[10:31] <anthony> hello, i did a server install  (base system only) of ubuntu and have gotten "xserver-xorg gnome-core gdm synaptic xfonts-base gaim xchat" to get my gnome gui up and running, however whenever i log onto gnome i get this error "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_WirelessApplet"." i think the problem lies within a missing package but i don't know which one, anybody know any fix?
[10:31] <evilbulgarian> maxkelley: well i uncommented all the parts in apt
[10:31] <evilbulgarian> maxkelley: is there an updated list somewhere
[10:31] <maxkelley> evilbulgarian: then we don't have it :)
[10:31] <maxkelley> google for "recommended ubuntu 5.10 repositories"
[10:31] <maxkelley> or something like that
[10:31] <scot31337> thanks all is well.. just need to get the ati drivers working properly now... vesa is.. :) thanks guys
[10:32] <evilbulgarian> maxkelley: thank you!
[10:32] <thegladiator> xgl and compiz , doesnt change the gnome panels I guess? it its mainly for the woobly stuff and transparency ?
[10:32] <maxkelley> no probs.
[10:32] <soundray> Anca, you want KDE?
[10:32] <thegladiator> I wodner woobly feature is really required
[10:32] <thegladiator> what use do it really have ?
[10:32] <ompaul> evilbulgarian, it is in "universe"
[10:32] <maxkelley> thegladiator: no, you need to go into gnome session manager and put xcompmgr as a startup prog.
[10:32] <NickGarvey> any ideas?
[10:33] <maxkelley> thegladiator: xfce has a compositing manager built-in that does drop-shadows.. but that's about it.
[10:33] <ompaul> thegladiator, ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:33] <Anca> soundray, I have KDE! but dunno what I removed from my system, cause x doesn't start by default and... etcetc
[10:33] <AS_Oly> thegladiator, the wobbly effects are great useful for stopping you doing work
[10:33] <maxkelley> NickGarvey: go into synaptic, search for lame
[10:33] <lizandbobby_> hi folks, System>Administration>Printing icon is missing...  any ideas?
[10:33] <yas> hi all
[10:33] <evilbulgarian> ompaul: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" i have that in apt/sources
[10:33] <AS_Oly> you just sit there wobbling the windows instead :p
[10:33] <NickGarvey> I don't have synaptic
[10:33] <NickGarvey> I have no GUI
[10:33] <maxkelley> evilbulgarian: put in restricted
[10:33] <thegladiator> lol AS_Oly
[10:33] <ompaul> evilbulgarian, that is the place
[10:33] <dyrne> someone know the process name for freenx server im looking at processes running and nothing is jumping out at me..
[10:33] <maxkelley> NickGarvey: one sec, I'll check for you
[10:33] <NickGarvey> thanks
[10:33] <ompaul> maxkelley, it would be there with main already
[10:33] <soundray> Anca, try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop', it should put things back in place.
[10:34] <lizandbobby_> dyrne, it's freenx
[10:34] <ompaul> evilbulgarian, there is one other one you may be interested in the Non Free as in Freedom Software - multiverse
[10:34] <oscar> NickGarvey, do you have the multiverse repositories enabled?
[10:34] <maxkelley> ompaul: it refers to a different package.
[10:34] <NickGarvey> I don't believe so
[10:34] <soundray> Anca: terminal is in Applications-Accessories btw
[10:34] <NickGarvey> how would I go about doing that
[10:34] <NickGarvey> or checking
[10:34] <ompaul> maxkelley,  apt-cache policy cacti returns universe
[10:35] <maxkelley> NickGarvey: use aptitude
[10:35] <lizandbobby_> can someone check which process system>admin>printing runs so I can see if the actual binary is installed here?  thx
[10:35] <maxkelley> it's a front-end to apt
[10:35] <thegladiator> are there people who use sun's kernel for ubuntu ? just curious
[10:35] <Anca> soundray, found it! :) tried to install gtkboard and got an error... but I try installing kde again
[10:35] <maxkelley> NickGarvey: it actually is in there as lame.. I don't know what that error is from..
[10:35] <maxkelley> bbl
[10:35] <evilbulgarian> ompaul: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse" well this should take care of it right ?
[10:36] <purplefeltangel> my updates thing says Ubuntu-docs isn't authenticated.  whats the matter?
[10:36] <ompaul> thegladiator, head over to #ubuntu+1 they have all the stuff your askting about
[10:36] <BobC2> Hello <---- a very newbie to Linux and Ubuntu trying to burn the ISO so it works..so far it can't be read
[10:36] <thegladiator> thanks ompaul
[10:36] <purplefeltangel> bobC2: order the shipit cds! ^_____^
[10:36] <NickGarvey> I installed soundconverter, I think lame came with it
[10:36] <iBalo> thegladiator: that would neither be possible nor desireable... we all want our desktop hardwarw continue to work :D
[10:36] <NickGarvey> but when I apt-get removed soundconverter
[10:36] <evilbulgarian> ompaul: but all i get is 0.8.6f-2ubuntu1 i need 0.8.6g
[10:36] <NickGarvey> I think it left lame behind
[10:36] <thegladiator> ok :)
[10:37] <BobC2> Purplefelt I could but burning could be faster! lol Maybe?
[10:37] <purplefeltangel> bobc2: well when i ordered mine it took about 6 weeks :P
[10:37] <ompaul> evilbulgarian, what actual program do you want, and which version 5.04 5.10 or ? of ubuntu?
[10:37] <dyrne> so what is actually listening? the nxserver doesnt appear unless someone is actually logged in..
[10:37] <ryanakca> whats the most recent version of pgp? 8.0?
[10:37] <Anca> soundray, I got this error (the same I got last time I wanted to install some things): error in control file: `Format' value not specified at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 715, <IN> line 17.
[10:38] <BobC2> Yikes purplefeltangel!
[10:38] <evilbulgarian> ompaul: cacti 0.8.6g i run breezy 5.10
[10:38] <oc15> trying to install 2nd hdd, its not picking up?
[10:38] <BobC2> Something about images vs ISO?   Just a hint would be helpful!
[10:38] <ryanakca> @pgp
[10:38] <ryanakca> !pgp
[10:38] <ubotu> ryanakca: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:39] <NickGarvey> bobc2, message me if you want a walkthough
[10:39] <BobC2> Thanks Nick
[10:39] <fatbrain> How would I go about installing Firefox 1.5 on my ubuntu 5.10 (i386) ?
[10:39] <NickGarvey> apt-get install firefox
[10:39] <iBalo> !ff1.5
[10:39] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:39] <NetGeek> does usplash prevent you from using consoles? (i.e. ctrl-alt-f1/f7
[10:40] <ezu> i have a samba share mounted on my file system but if i shut down and restart the windows computer that its mounted from, even after the reboot (no ip change or anything) i get input output errors.. is there a way to set it up in fstab that it will auto remount when the share becomes avaliable again?
[10:40] <fatbrain> iBalo: thanks
[10:40] <oc15> trying to mount my 2nd hdd but its not being picked up
[10:40] <ownerx> !cupsweb
[10:40] <ubotu> To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[10:41] <BobC2> I did Nick can you see it?
[10:41] <NickGarvey> see what?
[10:41] <purplefeltangel> my updates thing says Ubuntu-docs isn't authenticated.  whats the matter?
[10:41] <BobC2> Th PM to you?
[10:41] <NickGarvey> I am not seeing any of your messages if you are talking to me
[10:41] <NickGarvey> nope
[10:42] <NickGarvey> what client are you using?
[10:42] <BobC2> Hummm double click ur name to the right ?
[10:42] <NickGarvey> I think?
[10:42] <oc15> can someone help me with mounting my second hdd?
[10:42] <NickGarvey> I use GAIM
[10:42] <BobC2> PICH
[10:42] <VR^> how do i remove all empty dirs (and its subdirs) through the terminal?
[10:42] <dyrne> oc15: windows drive?
[10:42] <BobC2> Very Old
[10:42] <lizandbobby_> fixed it, gnome-cups-manager was not installed...  strange thought this would be part of gnome meta...  fixed now though
[10:43] <oc15> dyrne - no it was a centos, i wanna copy some files from it then wipe it
[10:43] <BobC2> Sorry PIRCH Nick!
[10:43] <NickGarvey> hmm
[10:43] <NickGarvey> ./msg nickgarvey should do it
[10:43] <BobC2> Can you PM me?
[10:43] <NickGarvey> without the .
[10:43] <NickGarvey> I did
[10:44] <NickGarvey> just did then
[10:44] <dyrne> oc15: know what format it is?
[10:44] <BobC2> ok in this window?
[10:44] <Pygi> anyone had problems with PnP ACPI with today's build of dapper? :)
[10:44] <NickGarvey> yeah try it
[10:44] <wastrel> Pygi:  #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuff i think
[10:45] <oc15> dyrne: I think ext3
[10:45] <Pygi> wastrel: yes, yes, I know :)
[10:45] <BobC2> Nick Says it blocked cause I'm not registered
[10:45] <NickGarvey> register then
[10:45] <NickGarvey> wait
[10:45] <NickGarvey> um
[10:45] <NickGarvey> that shouldn't matter I think
[10:45] <BobC2> Hummm
[10:45] <NickGarvey> oh well register anyway
[10:45] <andax> VR^: for i in `find ./ -type d ` ; do if [ "`find $i -type f`" ] ;then echo checking $i ; else echo $i is empty;rm -r "$i" ; fi ; done
[10:45] <purplefeltangel> bobc2: well when i ordered mine it took about 6 weeks :P
[10:45] <laurin> hig oder so
[10:46] <andax> VR^: be sure to modify the path
[10:46] <laurin> oh..
[10:46] <laurin> hi
[10:46] <BobC2> I saw that Purple too long a wait
[10:46] <SamIArent> hm, I seem to be having some problems with my wireless USB adapter
[10:46] <SamIArent> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129445
[10:46] <NickGarvey> um register then
[10:46] <SamIArent> any suggestions?
[10:47] <VR^> andax: thanks
[10:47] <ryanakca> hmmm... I was installing blootbot and I got this error: [    12]  !WARN! PERL: DBI connect('mysql:localhost','blootbot',...) failed: Access denied for user 'blootbot'@'localhost' to database 'mysql' at /usr/share/blootbot/src/db_mysql.pl line 22
[10:47] <ryanakca> I dont want it to access database 'mysql'... I want it to access database 'blootbot'
[10:47] <BobC2> You don't have Yahoo chat do you Nick?
[10:47] <ryanakca> how do I fix it?
[10:47] <dyrne> oc15: i would think ubuntu would detect it during install and mount to /media/something if not just sudo fdisk -l to list partitions
[10:48] <wastrel> ryanakca:  install and configure a mysql server
[10:48] <diGVargur> hello can you guys help me trough chmodding a file ?
[10:48] <andax> SamIArent: that card is prism chipset based, google for "linux-wlan-ng"
[10:49] <NickGarvey> I do bob
[10:49] <oc15> dyrne: ok i opened up disks manager and it sees it there, what do i do now?
[10:49] <NickGarvey> darkness_tef
[10:49] <ryanakca> wastrel: I have 
[10:49] <SamIArent> thanks
[10:49] <ryanakca> wastrel: mysql     4147  0.0  1.1 118420  4400 ?        Sl   08:48   0:17 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[10:49] <ZeNN> to anyone: how can one block netbios traffic on a bridged interface (br0, through brctl)
[10:49] <ZeNN> ?
[10:49] <dyrne> oc15: it was connected to computer during install?
[10:49] <BobC2> OK can we try that NIck? bamc_us is my name there
[10:50] <NickGarvey> sure
[10:50] <oc15> dyrne: no i added after the install
[10:50] <BobC2> OK thanks ist bamc underscore us
[10:50] <ryanakca> wastrel: I've set up my user accounts and schemas... nothing wrong with mysql... its blootbot that has the problem because I dont want it to use the "mysql" database. I want it to use the "blootbot" database 
[10:50] <sinaduel> I installed rar and unrar from synaptic, but I can't use it
[10:50] <PerryJr> hi alexis
[10:50] <alexisc> PERRRRYYYY!?!?!?
[10:50] <alexisc> hello
[10:51] <PerryJr> yeah i'm right here
[10:51] <PerryJr> boner
[10:51] <alexisc> pussy
[10:51] <alexisc> god
[10:51] <PerryJr> haha
[10:51] <PerryJr> boner=pussy
[10:51] <alexisc> lmao
[10:51] <PerryJr> boner --> pussy
[10:51] <alexisc> perry stop wtth the bad language
[10:51] <alexisc> god
[10:51] <PerryJr> i'm sorry.
[10:51] <alexisc> your gonna get kicked out,
[10:51] <p2wlik0> hi
[10:51] <PerryJr> lol my bad
[10:51] <PerryJr> dont kik me
[10:51] <alexisc> haha memner we got kicked out of ever chat room?
[10:52] <ompaul> well your sitting in the same room
[10:52] <PerryJr> yeah
[10:52] <PerryJr> all the time
[10:52] <SamIArent> ok, so all I need to do is install this
[10:52] <thunder_> hello
[10:52] <SamIArent> and my card will work?
[10:52] <michaelri> whats happening?
[10:52] <alexisc> install wat
[10:52] <PerryJr> hey mike
[10:52] <alexisc> your stupid cunt whore
[10:52] <michaelri> suck my balls
[10:52] <alexisc> no thank
[10:52] <dyrne> oc15: open a terminal and type 'mount' it should list partitions that ubuntu has automatically mounted under /media directory
[10:52] <PerryJr> haha
[10:52] <cheloo> anyone followed this guide " http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ " ?
[10:52] <PerryJr> I WILL
[10:52] <alexisc> i will leave that to your mom
[10:52] <p2wlik0> how to download sth from Efnt
[10:52] <fatbrain> where do i get the mplayer_mozilla plygin from?
[10:52] <michaelri> haha
[10:52] <p2wlik0> ?
[10:52] <ryanakca> hmmm... guys... please try to keep it G rated 
[10:53] <ryanakca> ty ompaul 
[10:53] <SamIArent> eh...I assume it is?
[10:53] <dyrne> ubotu: tell oc15 about mount
[10:53] <dyrne> oc15: just take a look at that page
[10:53] <roaet2> what's a good boot loader?
[10:53] <roaet2> to install?
[10:54] <oscar> fatbrain, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[10:54] <roaet2> that I can install from windows
[10:54] <thunder_> any one can helpme with mercury msn have problen with instalation
[10:54] <oc15> dyrne: what page?
[10:54] <dyrne> !mount
[10:54] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:54] <dyrne> oc15: ^
[10:54] <ACPI_woes> !acpi
[10:54] <ubotu> ACPI_woes: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:54] <oc15> dyrne: ok
[10:55] <thunder_> i'm trying to install msn mercury in ubuntu64 but i get a long error
[10:55] <mirak> totem sucks !!!
[10:55] <wastrel> ryanakca:  sorry i didn't see your 2nd line.  it looks like the bot's written in perl, go in and change the db it wants with a text editor maybe
[10:55] <fatbrain> oscar: couldn't find package mozilla-mplayer
[10:56] <stercor> I have an AMD 64 machine and I'm at the download file menu.  Do I download the -install- or the -live- files?
[10:57] <interferon> are there advantages to using ubuntu over debian for a machine that will only be used as a server?
[10:57] <thunder_> any one speak spanish??
[10:57] <NickGarvey> !es
[10:57] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:57] <sandrinux> stercor: live is for the live-CD
[10:58] <ryanakca> wastrel: kk... line 22 
[10:58] <ACPI_woes> stercor, live if you just want to try it, but not install it, installl if you want to install it.
[10:58] <oscar> fatbrain, you have to have the universe repositorys enabled
[10:58] <Madpilot> !tell fatbrain about universe
[10:58] <stercor> I want a "just-stick-it-in-the-drive" installation.
[10:59] <oscar> fatbrain, i mean multiverse repositories
[10:59] <Madpilot> stercor, then get the -install CD
[10:59] <ice_1963> lol
[10:59] <laurin> spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[10:59] <NickGarvey> !de
[10:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:59] <laurin> thx
[10:59] <NickGarvey> :)
[10:59] <iBalo> !de
[11:00] <sandrinux> !it
[11:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:00] <sandrinux> nice
[11:00] <stercor> which of iso, iso-torrent, jigdo, list, template?
[11:00] <ZeNN> !nl
[11:00] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:00] <anthony> ctrl + alt + f1 will not bring up the CLI, ctrl + alt + backspace gets me back to the gdm, what's the problem? is there anyway to get to the CLI, bypassing xserver?
[11:00] <wastrel> anthony:  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:01] <sandrinux> stercor: the .iso , or if you think to download it with bittorrent  the .torrent one
[11:01] <NickGarvey> !lame
[11:01] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[11:01] <NickGarvey> !glame
[11:01] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, NickGarvey
[11:01] <wastrel> heh must have worked
[11:01] <Madpilot> stercor, get the install ISO - or the torrent if you want to use BitTorrent
[11:01] <ryanakca> how would I extract this file: blootbot-cvs.tar.gz.part
[11:01] <Madpilot> NickGarvey, you can /msg ubotu if you want to experiment
[11:02] <ryanakca> nevermind... figured it out
[11:02] <sandrinux> ryanakca: that .part at the end seem for a non-complete file
[11:02] <stercor> Madpilot:  Thanks!  Watch me go running off half-cocked now! :)
[11:02] <sandrinux> but i may be wrong
[11:02] <Madpilot> have fun :P
[11:03] <cafuego> ew, that's a mental image i didn't need
[11:03] <Madpilot> ryanakca, as far as I know .part is a Firefox thing, used during downloads before the file is fully downloaded
[11:03] <ompaul> NickGarvey, you need to do !info packagename your leaving out the word info  that only works if someone has made a factoid of it - but given the bot has a lot of info loaded usually packages are not answered to with !packagename
[11:04] <NickGarvey> oh thank you
[11:05] <CyCloBot> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop but when it detects hardware it freezes at 86% were it loads module "ide-cd" for "Linux ATAPI CD-ROM". any help?
[11:05] <ariel77> hi i was wondering how you uninstall realplayer
[11:06] <robr> hi there, which channel should i join for getting some assistance with installing ubuntu?
[11:06] <NickGarvey> when you boot CyCloBot, try noapic and nolapic
[11:06] <ariel77> and where the firefox plugins are kept
[11:06] <wastrel> ariel77:  locate firefox | grep plugin
[11:06] <ompaul> CyCloBot, have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge the second one seems to work but the first tends to be just as successful
[11:06] <CyCloBot> how
[11:08] <Loevborg> Is there some place to get ooo >2.0 prepackaged for breezy?
[11:09] <bimberi> !ooo2
[11:09] <ubotu> To upgrade to OOo 2.0.x, see http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-October/012520.html (add one of the 'deb' lines to sources.list and update+upgrade)
[11:09] <spikebike> >?
[11:09] <ariel77> how do you search apt in the command?
[11:09] <virgomoon> is there anything particular about Ubuntu that would preclude it's being offered for sale in much the same way as Debian (ok, with the possible excpetion that you can easily get free copies)?
[11:09] <Loevborg> I thank thee, bimberi
[11:09] <dyrne> ariel77: apt-cache search name
[11:09] <SamIArent> ok, it appears as though I am out of floppies
[11:09] <ryanakca> ariel77: apt-cache search name
[11:09] <SamIArent> and cd-r's
[11:09] <ryanakca> ariel77: what dyrne said
[11:09] <Madpilot> virgomoon, nope. People already do that on EBay, with the free copies they get... (which is distasteful but not illegal...)
[11:09] <bimberi> Loevborg: thee art welcome :)
[11:10] <SamIArent> any other ideas?
[11:10] <dyrne> virgomoon: you can burn and sell cds
[11:10] <spikebike> oops
[11:10] <virgomoon> fair 'nuf .. thanks guys
[11:10] <ariel77> wastrel firefox doesn't run anymore because it can't load the plugin for realplayer how do i resolve?
[11:11] <wastrel> ariel77:  it's not in the plugins directory?
[11:11] <volvoguy> silly quick question... i've got a procmail entry that filters out a ton of spam. if i want that mail just gone, can i just direct it to /dev/null?
[11:11] <fatbrain> how do I add a key to, so that apt-get update won't complain about lackcin ga key?
[11:11] <robr> im getting an error on trying to install: failed to open console then: [4294668.509000]  kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing init=0 option to kernel. help please :)
[11:11] <wastrel> volvoguy:  yes
[11:11] <ompaul> volvoguy, you could
[11:12] <volvoguy> thanks!
[11:12] <ryanakca> whats a good "bot" name?
[11:12] <volvoguy> is there a better way?
[11:12] <ariel77> wastrel no
[11:12] <dyrne> fatbrain: you added .seveas's repo?
[11:12] <ariel77> wastrel it is searching for a plugin libxext.so
[11:12] <ariel77> wastrel i have no idea what that is
[11:13] <ompaul> ryanakca, how_to_get_my_ip_kicked_out_of_a_channel_once_it_does_something_silly
[11:13] <fatbrain> dyrne: no
[11:13] <ryanakca> ompaul: nice, ty
[11:13] <fatbrain> oh, think I found a way, apt-key util.
[11:13] <ryanakca> ompaul: its not for in here, btw... nor any ubuntu/kde/php/whatever channel
[11:13] <wastrel> ariel77:  that's not a realplayer plugin
[11:14] <ompaul> ryanakca, be careful with it that is all, botzilla?
[11:14] <aedwar62834> root@laptop:/home/aedwards# man apt-key
[11:14] <aedwar62834> man: can't parse directory list `t\uffffF\uffff\uffff4`\uffff$\uffff(\uffff\uffff{\uffffu
[11:14] <aedwar62834>                                                    \uffff\uffffWP\uffff\uffff\uffff\uffff7\uffff\u2592F"??\u25c6%'
[11:14] <aedwar62834> \u2514\u2592\u253c: \u240c\u2592\u253c'\u251c \u2514\u2592\u2510\u240a \u23bd\u240a\u253c\u23bd\u240a \u23ba \u251c\u2424\u240a \u2514\u2592\u253c\u23bb\u2592\u251c\u2424 \u240c\u23ba\u253c\u240b\u2524\u23bc\u2592\u251c\u240b\u23ba\u253c \u240b\u250c\u240a /\u240a\u251c\u240c/\u2514\u2592\u253c\u23bb\u2592\u251c\u2424.\u240c\u23ba\u253c\u240b
[11:14] <aedwar62834> \u23bc\u23ba\u23ba\u251c@\u250c\u2592\u23bb\u251c\u23ba\u23bb:/\u2424\u23ba\u2514\u240a/\u2592\u240a\u240d\u252c\u2592\u23bc\u240d\u23bd# \u2500
[11:14] <aedwar62834> \u2409\u2592\u23bd\u2424: \u2500: \u240c\u23ba\u2514\u2514\u2592\u253c\u240d \u253c\u23ba\u251c \u23ba\u2524\u253c\u240d
[11:14] <ompaul> aedwar62834, stop
[11:14] <Seveas> he stopped
[11:14] <sandrinux> shit
[11:14] <robr> where should i look to get help installing ubuntu
[11:14] <Tomcat_> Wow... did you guys know this: http://www.deviantart.com/view/23866865/ ?
[11:14] <ompaul> sandrinux, emmm
[11:15] <ompaul> sandrinux, mind the language
[11:15] <sandrinux> sorry
[11:15] <cafuego> op wars!
[11:15] <ryanakca> ompaul: I know... I'm gonna test it long before I even think of letting it into a "official" channel... even then, I'll be uneasy about doing so
[11:15] <ryanakca> lol
[11:15] <cafuego> $20 on nalioth
[11:15] <sorush20> any completely new users here?
[11:15] <cafuego> woo! I win!
[11:16] <nalioth> cafuego: what was the bet? and why wasn't i in on it?
[11:16] <sandrinux> cafuego: I Lin  :)
[11:16] <cafuego> nalioth: op wars bet: which op does the next command.
[11:16] <nalioth> and what is goin on in here?
[11:16] <Seyekoh> Can i borrow somebodies time.  Audio problems, nForce2 chipset (Realtek audio - A7N8X Deluxe - Asus Mobo), i have no sound and have tried everything I found on google.
[11:16] <ryanakca> I dunno
[11:17] <roaet2> oh man
[11:17] <robr> can i have some help with installing please
[11:17] <cafuego> Seyekoh: My recommendation stands.
[11:17] <nalioth> robr: if you ask a question
[11:18] <Seyekoh> cafuego, lol, thanks man.
[11:18] <robr> nalioth: im getting an error on trying to install: failed to open console then: [4294668.509000]  kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. try passing init=0 option to kernel.
[11:18] <Seyekoh> cafuego, i thought the point of linux was open source, free, and anti M$
[11:18] <nalioth> robr: does your install cd pass a verification check?
[11:18] <Seyekoh> cafuego, speakers work in winblows
[11:18] <robr> i havnt tried that, how do i do that
[11:19] <cafuego> Seyekoh: Yeh, but my recommendation didn't involve windows
[11:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell robr about verify
[11:20] <Seyekoh> cafuego, true, but it involved NOT-free...
[11:20] <sandrinux> robr: there should be the option to check the CD before to start the installation , if i remember well
[11:20] <robr> can i do that from windows?
[11:21] <robr> i have a 2nd box i want to try ubuntu on before removing xp from my main
[11:21] <Seyekoh> robr, go into bios and set boot order to CD > Floppy > HDD
[11:21] <Seyekoh> robr, you could try the live cd then
[11:22] <robr> seyekoh, i have set the boot order to be that
[11:22] <nalioth> robr: you certainly can. http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
[11:23] <fatbrain> how can I list all the partitions on my system?
[11:23] <ompaul> df
[11:23] <robr> seyekoh, id like to try installing a mail server, dhcp, setting up as print server etc ... so would b good to try on a 2nd box i think
[11:23] <Seyekoh> robr, sorry, missed first part of message.  you should chksum the image you burned your cd from to make sure disk is ok
[11:23] <volvoguy> robr, did you burn your ubuntu cd at a high speed by chance? almost every weird installer problem like that for me has been solved by reburning at the slowest speed possible.
[11:23] <ompaul> fatbrain, all the ones that are mounted or all the partitions?
[11:23] <Seyekoh> nickrud, you there, if so, do you have time to help me with some audio problems?
[11:24] <ariel77> how do you do a distro upgrade from breezy to dapper drake?
[11:24] <fatbrain> ompaul: all
[11:24] <ariel77> with apt-get
[11:24] <robr> nalioth, thx ill try it
[11:24] <bimberi> !upgrade
[11:24] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 (breezy) -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, Upgrading to dapper? Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[11:24] <nickrud> Seyekoh: um, me no good with sound ;)
[11:24] <robr> vologuy, umm yea i guess it was bout 40x
[11:24] <cafuego> ariel77: If you don't know, don't upgrade. Dapper is *not* stable.
[11:24] <ompaul> fatbrain, >>sudo fdisk -l<< that is a lower case L
[11:24] <Seyekoh> nickrud, haha, i heard you were a guru
[11:24] <Mabus06> what's the best gui to burn an iso to disk on gnome
[11:24] <fatbrain> ompaul: thanks
[11:24] <nickrud> Seyekoh: don't trust another thing that person tells you, ever!
[11:25] <nalioth> nickrud: folks are talking about ya.. .. .. again.
[11:25] <Seyekoh> nickrud, bah, now i gotta go see what my wife is really doing
[11:25] <nickrud> nalioth: not good
[11:25] <ompaul> nickrud, just so your can see more red
[11:25] <NickGarve1> I am trying to apt-get install mplayer but it depends on an outof date library, how can I make it so it will allow me to install it?
[11:25] <Madpilot> Mabus06, use the file manager - just find your ISO, right-click on it, select Burn To Disc
[11:25] <ompaul> or whatever colour you use
[11:25] <nickrud> la la la la, I'm not listening 
[11:26] <Seyekoh> nickrud, *sniff*
[11:26] <volvoguy> robr, it might be worth a try. nero lets me burn as slow as 4x and that seems to work fine. of course once it's burned, boot with it and somewhere early on there should be an option to check the install media. that's worth a try too. at least you'll know it's not the disc.
[11:26] <Mabus06> Madpilot: and you can specify the write speed, correct?
[11:26] <ryanakca> how do you find out what channels you have registered?
[11:26] <Seyekoh> cafuego, so, other than your primary recommendation, do you have any others that involve changing my system config?
[11:27] <Madpilot> Mabus06, yes - just make sure it's a speed your burner actually supports, because Nautilus doesn't detect that
[11:27] <ompaul> ryanakca, /ns info yourownnick
[11:27] <ryanakca> freenode is really different than irctoo or blitzed
[11:27] <ryanakca> kk
[11:27] <ryanakca> ty
[11:27] <cafuego> Seyekoh: None at this stage; like I said: I haven't ever had speakers plugged into my nforce2 system (it's servering and runs with only power & ethernet)
[11:27] <ompaul> ryanakca, well it is rather "technical in its outlook"
[11:28] <ariel77> anyone know what program uses the firefox plugin libxt.so?
[11:28] <Seyekoh> cafuego, yeah, that is how my server has been as well.  Just trying to convert the main system, and it is rough so far
[11:28] <Mabus06> Madpilot: ack... how come I can't eject my cdrom?
[11:28] <cafuego> ompaul: Please don't use the word 'outlook'.
[11:28] <ryanakca> "technical in it's outlook"???
[11:28] <cafuego> ompaul: That might result in an accidental stabbing ;-)
[11:28] <Madpilot> Mabus06, right-click & "Eject" doesn't work?
[11:28] <ompaul> cafuego, I had forgotten there was another meaning for that word, thanks! ;-0
[11:28] <ryanakca> ompaul: I take it that might be because its a "technical help" server??? :P
[11:29] <bimberi> cafuego: this is an interesting exchange :P
[11:29] <ompaul> ryanakca, servers yeap
[11:29] <cafuego> ompaul: I spent 2 weeks configuring an office full of those things to imap :-(
[11:29] <nalioth> ompaul: a meaning synonymical with **** and **** and ****
[11:29] <ompaul> nalioth, ohh no now ****
[11:29] <ailean> doesn't anyone make games for linux . . .?
[11:29] <ompaul> ailean, lots of them
[11:30] <ryanakca> ailean: thousands...
[11:30] <ailean> good games though
[11:30] <cafuego> Seyekoh: And as it turns out, it looks like the nforce2 system does NOT have a realtek audio chip.
[11:30] <nalioth> ailean: "good" is in the eyes (and fingers) of the player
[11:30] <ryanakca> ailean: go "apt-cache search game"
[11:30] <ailean> k
[11:30] <cafuego> Seyekoh: What does yours say about 'lspci | grep audio' ?
[11:30] <Seyekoh> cafuego: not according to my manual
[11:30] <robr> looks like i need to redownload and burn to check the md5 :/ i dont have the iso anymore
[11:30] <ompaul> ailean, and include universe and multiverse in your repos before you do that
[11:31] <NickGarve1> any thoughts?
[11:31] <ailean> sure
[11:31] <Seyekoh> cafuego: 0000:00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce MultiMedia audio [Via VT82C686B]  (rev a2)
[11:31] <Seyekoh> 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1)
[11:31] <robr> would it be a good idea to use ubuntu as a server? im wanting to get into linux, but debian looks like a v.big leap
[11:32] <ryanakca> ailean: mind if I msg you?
[11:32] <ailean> go ahead
[11:32] <cafuego> Seyekoh: Mine's " nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)" and that uses the 'snd-intel8x0' driver. No realtek
[11:32] <ompaul> rob, it would be a good idea - there is even a more server like server edition - ubuntu-server as a CD
[11:32] <kinetic> !grub
[11:32] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:33] <Madpilot> cafuego, , my mobo is a Asus a7n8x-e deluxe - one step up from Seyekoh - and it's got a Realtek audio setup (which has always worked flawlessly in Ubuntu...)
[11:34] <NickGarve1> !wma
[11:34] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:34] <Seyekoh> cafuego: yeah, manual specifications: Realtek ALC650 6CH with built-in HP amplifier integrated APU (Deluxe model only) SoundStorm / Dolby Digital (AC-3) Encoder (Deluxe Model Only)
[11:35] <[balayhashi] > !FreeFormats
[11:35] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:35] <wastrel> bye
[11:35] <BobC2> Thanks Nick gonna leave this IRC channel
[11:36] <Mabus06> Ack, why does gnome take like 10 minutes to load?
[11:36] <Madpilot> Seyekoh, it looks like I've got exactly the same chip, but mine has always worked in Ubuntu... (aren't computers fun?)
[11:36] <cafuego> Seyekoh: Must be marginally different from mine then.
[11:36] <Jsm> Can any one recomend a free ftp client for ununtu ?
[11:36] <Seyekoh> Madpilot: way too much fun
[11:37] <Madpilot> Jsm, Nautilus (the file manager) does basic FTP stuff nicely
[11:37] <Mabus06> is there a command line way to burn a cd?
[11:37] <Mabus06> from an iso
[11:37] <Jsm> Madpilot, i wouold have never thought of useing file manger thanks again
[11:37] <riddlebox> what do I need to get an nvidia card working?
[11:38] <ckirk> Mabus06: : search in synaptic. there's about 5 packages that do ;)
[11:38] <Mabus06> ckirk: I can't, gnome is not loading up
[11:38] <ckirk> hrmm that's no good
[11:38] <Mabus06> and I need to leave very soon. >.<
[11:38] <Mabus06> What's the fastest speed I should burn a bootable disc?
[11:38] <ckirk> lemme search i know there's a nice one from the command line
[11:38] <cafuego> Mabus06: Yes, 'cdrecord' will do that. (all GUI tools use cdrecord).
[11:38] <bimberi> Jsm: Places -> Connect to Server (a good way to get nautilus going as an FTP client)
[11:39] <Jsm> Bimberi i did that ;) and im about to coennect
[11:39] <cafuego> Mabus06: 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc speed=8 -v -eject -data foo.iso'
[11:39] <bimberi> Jsm: kk :)
[11:39] <Madpilot> Mabus06, that depends... but I've had good ISO burns at everything up to full speed for my burner (42x or something like that...)
[11:39] <Zarathoustra_> try : http://s2.bitefight.fr/c.php?uid=41690
[11:39] <Zarathoustra_> hi then
[11:39] <Zarathoustra_> :)
[11:40] <cafuego> Zarathoustra_: Are you spamming?
[11:40] <cafuego> We'll take that as a yes.
[11:40] <sandrinux> yes , he did
[11:40] <ckirk> anyone running xubuntu yet?
[11:41] <cafuego> ckirk: I run it on the slow old iMac.
[11:41] <ckirk> whatcha think?
[11:41] <ckirk> makes my 2.4ghz pc fast as lightning
[11:42] <kinetic> ckirk: i do and love it
[11:42] <cafuego> it works, but it's neither pretty nor inninently useable.
[11:42] <Plouj_> why am I getting disk read errors when booting a re-written RW disk? I have only re-recored twice on it.
[11:42] <Sewage> Hola~
[11:42] <sandrinux> 2.4 Ghz ???
[11:42] <ckirk> yep
[11:42] <Sewage> Anyone here currently using dapper, the fouth release?
[11:42] <sandrinux> Wow I think you don't need XFCE ...
[11:42] <kinetic> i use it on my 450mhz
[11:43] <ubuntu> fasdfadsg
[11:43] <kinetic> and my 350mhz laptop
[11:43] <Sewage> Anyway, I am having an interesting problem and I'm not sure if it's a bug, or me.
[11:43] <bimberi> Sewage: #ubuntu+1
[11:43] <ckirk> i don't but i like the feel of it.  and it keeps my resource consumption damn near null
[11:43] <ubuntu> Im running on the live cd and i must say its pretty stable
[11:43] <ckirk> i don't need it but i like it lots
[11:44] <kinetic> its nice if you don't need al the extra features
[11:44] <kinetic> i man you do most everythign on command line
[11:44] <ubuntu> myspace bitchez!!
[11:45] <ckirk> i try to do most everything on the command li ne
[11:45] <ckirk> i'me pretty new to linux anyway
[11:45] <kinetic> you don't need a intensive GUI for a terminal window
[11:45] <NickGarve1> I don't have a gui :)
[11:45] <ckirk> the command line interface is my highest priority right now
[11:46] <ckirk> so i think xu is probably the best choice for me
[11:46] <NickGarve1> I can't seem to get mplayer downloaded
[11:46] <kinetic> xubuntu is good for a server
[11:46] <NickGarve1> apt-get fails
[11:46] <NickGarve1> thats x-box right kinetic
[11:46] <Madpilot> NickGarve1, no, it's Ubutu + XFCE
[11:46] <kinetic> no its the xfce desktop manager for ubuntu
[11:47] <ckirk> NickGarve1: ubuntu with xfce4 instead of gnome or kde
[11:47] <mikebot> can someone help me with the ubuntu install process?
[11:47] <kinetic> like kubuntu is kde
[11:47] <NickGarve1> oh alright
[11:47] <NickGarve1> never heard of it
[11:47] <NickGarve1> to google!
[11:47] <ckirk> hehe
[11:47] <sandrinux> I think I'll try Xubuntu, couse I have a PIII800, and is a little slow with Gnome
[11:47] <kinetic> go for it
[11:47] <ckirk> try it, you'll love it
[11:47] <ckirk> check out the install instructions on the wiki
[11:48] <kinetic> sandrinux: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <iBalo> mikebot: what specifically?
[11:48] <mikebot> ibalo: i don't know much about computers, so yeasterday they were asking me about ntfs or soemthing
[11:48] <kinetic> sandrinux: logout and change the session
[11:48] <sandrinux> kinetic: thats all ??
[11:48] <mikebot> iBalo: anyway, i want to partition my drive with windows on it
[11:48] <mikebot> iBalo: and add ubuntu to that
[11:48] <maxkelley> sandrinux: if you already have Ubuntu installed, just do apt-get install xfce4
[11:49] <riddlebox> can someone tell me what I need to install to get my nvidia card's svideo out working?
[11:49] <maxkelley> sandrinux: I also have a piii866 and xfce is awesome.
[11:49] <kinetic> sandrinux: yeah run that command and let ti finish the just logout and click session at login screen and clik the xfce one then login
[11:49] <iBalo> mikebot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[11:49] <Jsm> Now can anyone help with a slightly un ununtu realted problem, does any one know were the deafut apache install is yo
[11:49] <ompaul> !seen robotgeek
[11:49] <ubotu> robotgeek <i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek> was last seen on IRC in channel #kubuntu-offtopic, 5h 16m 23s ago, saying: 'morning kkathman'.
[11:49] <mikebot> iBalo: thanks
[11:49] <NickGarve1> is to?
[11:49] <mikebot> iBalo: so i will be able to use windows if need be, right?
[11:49] <NickGarve1> /etc/apache2
[11:50] <sandrinux> Downloading ... :)
[11:50] <Madpilot> !tell riddlebox about nvidia
[11:50] <NickGarve1> /var/www is where it pulls the web pages from
[11:50] <iBalo> mikebot: you'll get a start-menu where you can choose, which OS to boot
[11:50] <mikebot> iBalo: oh excellent, thank you
[11:51] <mikebot> iBalo: also, it says back up any important docs onto a cd-r or soemthing
[11:51] <kinetic> i just set me windows hardrive and and set it to slave then but a fresh one as master and popped in the install disk for ubuntu
[11:51] <mikebot> iBalo: i have another internal harddrive, will that be safe?
[11:51] <cedriczg> hello. I don't know if I can ask this here
[11:51] <cedriczg> I installed Matlab7
[11:51] <ckirk> ask it. then you'll know
[11:51] <Q_Continuum> Ng, you around currently?  Your listed steps didn't work - CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE and it just sat there with a blinking cursor, I had to kill the process, and restore the default original config.
[11:53] <NickGarve1> I want to convert wma files to wavs or mp3s, but from what I read I need mplayer, but the problem is, mplayer will not apt-get because it refers to an out of date library, how could I avoid this?
[11:53] <cedriczg> and when I madee the launcher for matlab it doesn't work properly
[11:53] <iBalo> mikebot: it's safe unless you don't manage to tell the installer to format it... if you have 2 harddrives there are clever ways of using them in parallel to increase speed in linux... but that's advanced stuff
[11:53] <sandrinux> I LOVE UBUNTU !!!
[11:53] <cedriczg> It only works if I ask it to run in a terminal
[11:53] <Mabus06> exit
[11:54] <kinetic> sandrinux: faster?
[11:54] <Seyekoh> Madpilot: do you have /etc/libao.conf ?
[11:54] <cedriczg> does anyone knows why?
[11:54] <sandrinux> Faster, very faster
[11:54] <rupan3> starts up like a shot out of a cannon doesn't it, sandrinux :)
[11:54] <kinetic> i like the mouse
[11:55] <rupan3> totally
[11:55] <maxkelley> sandrinux: it really is.. sexy :)
[11:55] <kinetic> and it has lots of themes
[11:55] <maxkelley> tons.
[11:55] <Frebrd> anyone know how to enable oss emulation?
[11:55] <sandrinux> My PIII 800 seem a 3Ghz
[11:55] <maxkelley> you can also use the gtk themes on art.gnome.org
[11:55] <maxkelley> hehe, sandrinxu
[11:55] <maxkelley> er...
[11:55] <maxkelley> sandrinux
[11:55] <cedriczg> so noone can help me?
[11:56] <jms830> hello
[11:56] <maxkelley> HIEZ!
[11:56] <rupan3> what's the problem again, cedriczg ?
[11:56] <maxkelley> cedriczg: what is your problem to be? :)
[11:56] <rupan3> oh
[11:56] <rupan3> try reading the documentation
[11:56] <cedriczg> it a little problem
[11:56] <cedriczg> making a link for matlab
[11:56] <rupan3> head over to /usr/share/docs and look for matlab
[11:56] <cedriczg> in desktop
[11:56] <FlannelKing> Anyone know of a console instant messenger? (for AIM/Yahoo/Jabber/whatever/etc)
[11:57] <jms830> I have been trying to set up hotkeys for Xmms using xbindkeys. I entered xbindkeys-config and added my hotkeys, and they work except that it opens a new instance of xmms if i opened the original instance from within nautilus by clicking an mp3
[11:57] <rupan3> raed the command set
[11:57] <rupan3> FlannelKing: try gaim
[11:57] <jms830> anyone know how to fix this?
[11:57] <cedriczg> I have to make it to run frfom terminal
[11:57] <FlannelKing> rupan3: gaim doesn't have a console version, does it?
[11:57] <trappist> FlannelKing: I use bitlbee.  it's an irc server that connects to im servers and you connect to it with an irc client.
[11:57] <cedriczg> but it doesn't use terminal!
[11:57] <maxkelley> cedriczg: ln?
[11:57] <rupan3> FlannelKing: no but if you search synaptic there are packages that do
[11:57] <cedriczg> what?
[11:57] <sandrinux> To be honest, I Love Ubuntu because I have the ADSL . One year ago with a 56Kb/s it was different... :-\
[11:58] <rupan3> well i'll bet
[11:58] <maxkelley> cedriczg: ln -s <target> <link name>
[11:58] <rupan3> 56k will make you hate life in general
[11:58] <maxkelley> hehe, rupan
[11:58] <cedriczg> I have to put that as command?
[11:58] <maxkelley> yes
[11:58] <maxkelley> so, if you were making..
[11:58] <rupan3> lol
[11:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> andrea@taglia:~/classes/FPA147/sounds/italy-scrape$ ls -s /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1
[11:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 0 /usr/lib/libGLcore.so.1
[11:59] <maxkelley> erm, bueno..
[11:59] <rupan3> didn't want to open up another terminal i guess
[11:59] <iBalo> 56k will make your ISP love you for exorbitant bills :-)
[11:59] <rupan3> seriously.
[11:59] <cedriczg> sorry I got disconnected
[11:59] <flaxi> Opening up firefox in ubuntu and visiting yahoo.com, the news headline entries are two big, anyone knows what needs to be done to fix it? Using firefox in windows shows the headline entries just fine, each on on a seperate line
[11:59] <cedriczg> can you repeat me the answer?
[11:59] <maxkelley> cedriczg: if you were making a link to gaim, for example... do ln -s /usr/bin/gaim /home/whoever/gaim