hugelmopfMrono: you seem to need some python devel packages12:03
Mronothankyou, something can look for12:04
hugelmopfMrono: and probably X devel packages12:05
hugelmopfMrono: python i am not really sure.12:05
Dasnipa`hugelmopf, wheres the archives listing?12:06
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev12:07
hugelmopfMrono: ^^^12:07
hugelmopfDasnipa`: do you mean /etc/apt/sources.list ?12:07
Dasnipa`the mirror listing rather12:09
Dasnipa`im sure theres a copy on kubuntu.com somewhere12:09
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:10
hugelmopfDasnipa`: ^^^ that might help. i think you only have to add the two-letter code of your country, e. g. de.archive.ubuntu.com12:11
hDp`NeeD 3 Mercs fr12:11
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bobbydcan anyone rcommend a simple app for encoding video from a video4linux compatible capture card?12:20
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dereksis there remote desktoping built into kde?12:21
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bobbydI was just finding it12:22
bobbydk->internet->remote desktop connection12:22
dereksbobbyd: i am looking to connect from another computer to it12:22
bobbydyou can connect to VNC or windows remote desktop12:22
bobbydinternet->desktop sharing12:22
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bobbydheven't used that though12:22
MronoI have12:23
Mronoat least the rdp12:23
bobbyddereks, "nomachine" is really good for that btw.12:23
bobbydbut the standard thing should work12:23
Mronodoesn't work out of box12:23
Mronogotta install rdesktop12:23
bobbydMrono, nomachine or rdp?12:23
dereks"Cannot find KInetD. The KDE daemon (kdeb) may have crashed or has not been started at all, or the installation failed)12:23
Mronosudo apt-get install rdesktop12:23
dereksMrono: why is it nicer than desktop sharing12:23
bobbyddereks, what Mrono said :)12:23
samalHi. I'm a complete Kubuntu noob and I'm having some real beginner probs with it. I just installed it 20 mins ago on top of Ubuntu using synaptic. My prob is that even with a reboot the system is still using gnome and I can't find a place where I can change this so it uses KDE instead. Any suggestions?12:24
Mronostupid fricking install issues12:24
dereksMrono: seems that is the client not the server12:24
dereksi need the server12:25
Mronoyour trying to do a server12:25
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Mrononever done that12:25
Mronotry this12:25
Mronosudo apt-get install kdeb12:25
samalplz someone... anyone?12:25
Mronologon screen12:26
Tm_Tsamal: where you enter your password, there's "session" button12:26
dereksMrono: apt-cache show kdeb12:26
derekswirr: Unable to locate package kdeb12:26
Tm_Thow about kded12:26
dereksi am running breezy12:26
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Tm_Tbut oh, part of kdebase I think12:27
Tm_Tkded aka KDE Daemon is basic thing in KDE12:27
dereksTm_T: how come it isn't started?12:27
dereksor why does desktop sharing think it isn't12:27
Tm_Tdereks: maybe it is12:27
Tm_Tdunno, never used desktop sharing12:28
Tm_Tdereks: try if forums know something about it12:28
dereksshould i try a reboot? :)12:28
Tm_Tdereks: as you like12:28
dereksthats what i will try12:29
dereksthere goes my 60 something day uptime12:29
dereksgetting latest security updates first :)12:30
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ubotuMrono: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:31
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there12:31
Tallia1Kubuntui am in trouble12:31
hagbard_hi, i cant get eclipse to work on my amd64.... any suggestions? error log: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/304/12:31
Tallia1Kubuntui have founded this wiki on multisouce audio sound12:32
Tallia1Kubuntui followed each step perfectly12:32
Tallia1Kubuntubut i still can't get anything..12:32
Tallia1Kubuntuwhen audacity starts i get the error regarding the audio layer12:33
Tallia1Kubuntuand skype can't make calls12:33
Tallia1Kubuntubut the sound works in other programs12:33
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hDp`6o6 LoW PikaSkill Serv On12:34
derekShmm, lets see if this helped12:34
Tallia1Kubuntu? anybody can help me?12:35
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Tallia1Kubuntui just tried to come back to OSS and when i do it, eventually skype and audacity work12:36
Tallia1Kubuntui did the modprobe suggested in the wiki too ....12:37
Tallia1Kubuntuany clue?12:37
derekSTm_T: restarted, still no good12:37
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Tm_TderekS: ok, I'm not in full functionalityso I don't know what to do12:44
derekSTm_T: :) thanks anyways12:44
Mronoanyone ever used powermated12:45
Mronoor gizmod12:45
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purplefeltangelHELP! krita keeps saying "error during autosave! partition full?" and then when i try to save it says THE SPECIFIED FOLDER DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS NOT READABLE12:57
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purplefeltangelhi :)01:05
as_284i have a .bin file for the real player, how do i install the program with that file?01:05
robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats << as_28401:06
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diGVarguri need help01:07
robotgeekdiGVargur: sure, go ahead and ask01:08
diGVargursamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p conf.hub01:09
diGVargurbash: ./psotnic: cannot execute binary file01:09
diGVargur;S i dont understand01:09
robotgeekdiGVargur: new nick, huh :)01:09
diGVargurjea :| ?01:09
robotgeekdiGVargur: postnic is probably not on your desktop01:10
diGVargurso you are not gonna help me ;S?01:10
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diGVargurpsotnic is on my desktop01:10
robotgeekdiGVargur: is it executable? chmod +x psotnic01:10
g3n3ra1can anyone help me out with some theme issues?01:11
ubotuI heard ask is just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html01:11
robotgeekthanks Snake__01:12
diGVarguri cant open the psotnic by clicking it it says01:12
diGVargurCould not open "psotnic"01:12
diGVargurArchive type not supported.01:12
Snake__robotgeek: not a prob01:12
robotgeekdiGVargur: i would have  compiled it for you, but i don't have a x86 machine01:12
diGVarguri am trying to folow after this check it out :S http://didek.net/link/hub.htm01:13
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diGVargurrobotgeek check it out for me please01:16
robotgeekdiGVargur: ./psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static01:16
diGVargursamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static01:17
diGVargurSyntax: ./psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static [-v]  [-p]  [-u [site] ]  [-l]  [-c decypted config]  [cryped config] 01:17
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robotgeekdiGVargur: yeah, you have to use that instead of ./psotnic01:17
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robotgeekdiGVargur: yes, i say again. use "/.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static -p conf.hub" instead of "./psotnic -p conf.hub"01:19
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diGVargursamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ /.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static -p conf.hub01:21
diGVargurbash: /.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static: No such file or directory01:21
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robotgeekdiGVargur: I'm sorry, i am on a different architecture. i can't really help01:22
diGVargurplease just example for me ;S      this site ->  http://didek.net/link/hub.htm01:22
robotgeekdiGVargur: again, i can't help cause i am on a different architecture, and it will not work for me.01:23
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ganymed i need a programme or script for resizing pics in a row, so efficiently. any ideas?01:24
robotgeekganymed: imagemagick, has a program called convert01:25
robotgeekcommand line, oh so sweet :)01:25
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ubuntuhow i install linux on a XP SYSTEM01:26
robotgeekubuntu: let me point you to a link01:28
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ganymedis there anything not command line based (i love the bash, but i would like to see what i am doing)01:29
robotgeekganymed: hmm, i am not very sure.01:29
robotgeeksamoura: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:30
ganymedwell, if it works, it's fine. just maybe a bit more user friendly as my girl friend has te be able to use it, too. (i know, i could write a script)01:30
robotgeekganymed: and you want it for batch conversion?01:31
robotgeeki mean, a gui tool for mass image resizing?01:32
ganymedif batch means doing the job i one row: yes. those things exist for windows...01:32
ganymeddon't get me wrong. i do NOT say that it is faster or more comfortable if you know the command line01:33
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robotgeekganymed: no, i just don't know one. lemme look01:33
ganymedbut for those who don't...01:33
ganymedthx anyway01:33
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robotgeekganymed: can you try looking for konqueror scripts?01:36
ganymedkonqueror scripts? didn't know there is sth. like this...01:37
robotgeekganymed: umm, i mean try right clicking in a directory of images, and look at actions01:37
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robotgeekganymed: maybe it has stuff for resizing. also look at www.kde-apps.org01:38
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robotgeekganymed: maybe gwenview has something too, i am not very sure. sorry01:39
ganymedthanks very much anyway. you helped me a lot01:40
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alleerobotgeek, ganymed: when you install kipi-plugins, resize capabilities will magicly appear in  gwenview and showimg01:44
robotgeekallee: awesome, i'll make sure to add this information to the Desktop Guide :)01:44
Tonio_allee: hum, shouldn't that be a dependancy in that case ?01:45
alleerobotgeek: kipi-plugins is not in main01:45
Tonio_could be usefull no ?01:45
robotgeekallee: sure, no problems01:45
Tonio_allee: shouldn't we ask for main inclusion and add a depandancy on this ?01:45
Tonio_that's a major feature, really01:46
alleeTonio_: no digikam, showimg, gwenview, kimdaba work perfectly well without kipi-plugins.01:46
Tonio_is it at least "recommended" ?01:46
alleeTonio_: all 4 apps should recommend kipi-plugins (at least digikam does ;)01:46
Tonio_or suggested :)01:46
ganymedallee: thanks01:46
Tonio_okay, I'll remember for next gwenview update :)01:46
alleeTonio_: no definitely recommends IMHO01:46
ganymedallee: where can i find it?01:47
alleeaptitude install kipi-plugins01:47
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ganymedoh, it is in the repoaitory. didn't know this. sorry01:48
fhenriqueAlgum br ae??01:48
ganymedwell, it is too big for me right now.01:48
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ganymedhow do i specify a certain height with convert without specifiying the width?01:49
alleeganymed: yeah, size suffers due to documentation :(01:49
flixHow to install a .deb file?01:49
robotgeekganymed: one sec, lemme look up the man page myself01:49
alleedpkg -i file.deb01:50
robotgeekflix: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb01:50
ganymedthere is nothing written01:50
flixthank you01:50
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Tonio_flix: if you have kubuntu, right click on it01:50
robotgeekganymed: oh, i tht you meant convert. sorry :(01:50
Tonio_then kubuntu package menu, and Install :)01:50
flixahhh.. I do... next time I will do that... would be much easier01:50
flixthank you01:50
Tonio_no pb :)01:51
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alleeTonio_: cool01:51
Tonio_allee: you didn't knew that ?01:51
robotgeekTonio_: to be honest, even i did not know that. another one for the guide :)01:51
Tonio_robotgeek: well I didn't implement it, but I suggest that to riddell a few month ago, that's the reason I know it, but very few people do01:52
alleeTonio_: I manage pkg soley from cmd line.  No gui support installation on dozends of hosts.  So I never used them01:52
Tonio_everyone is using the shell for this01:52
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Tonio_allee: same for me, I just know it because the desktop work is my actual absolute priority :)01:53
robotgeekTonio_: write once, work everywhere :)01:53
Tonio_robotgeek: I didn't write it, it is a public service menu you can find on kde-apps.org :)01:54
alleeTonio_: and we are happy and thankful that it's high in your priority!01:54
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Tonio_allee: well, at list one personn  is required for this ;)01:54
ganymedhey cool, there's a php interface01:55
robotgeekTonio_: btw, did you find a nice desktop background?01:55
Tonio_I have the feeling the desktop is nicer on dapper that it was on breezy, so I'm happy ;)01:55
pulverhey! this kde 3.5.1 is pretty cool...01:55
Tonio_robotgeek: not at the moment I must say01:55
alleeTonio_: right01:55
robotgeekpulver: join the party!01:55
Tonio_I heard canonical might made one or something01:55
Tonio_allee: and finally we have good fonts, without forcing the full dpi :)01:56
ubotufrom memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358901:56
alleeTonio_: :) :)01:56
pulverrobotgeek: yea was using the gnomes before but this feels more responsive.. looks great too01:57
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flixa lot of packages sometimes say they depend on some version of a package like and the one I have is or something like that... how do you solve these problems?02:00
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Tonio_flix: the best thing is probably to avoid installing stuff that is not on the repos02:00
Tonio_local installation of .deb files can cause dependancies issues02:00
Tonio_unless you know how to manage them of course02:01
Tonio_what are you installing ?02:01
ganymedare you using dapper already?02:02
flixim installing this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3494802:02
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coolio10just open the deb in kpackage02:03
coolio10if u dont have kpackage get it from adept or synaptic02:03
Tonio_flix: crappy package........02:04
Tonio_is it required to install it from a deb ?02:04
Tonio_kde can install any theme with a tar.gz easilly02:04
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flixcoolio10, it can't be found in synaptic02:05
Tonio_.deb files are usefull for themes on repos, but that's all02:05
flixTonio_, ahhh ok02:05
goruscould anybody please point me to some guide on how to install nvidia drivers ??02:05
flixTonio_, I will then need to just forget it about it.. it's not worth the hassle if they haven't packaged it up for easy consumption02:05
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Tonio_flix: you can build a home package with checkinstall02:06
Tonio_not good for repos, but quite okay for homeuse02:06
Tonio_./configure && make && checkinstall and that's it :)02:07
gorusanybody ??02:07
coolio10i need them too02:08
flixTonio_, thank you, I will do more research on checkinstall02:09
pussfelleri plugged in my ipod but its not showing up all of a sudden, the ipod aint even blanking02:09
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Tonio_flix: just install it with apt or adept, and when you compile, simply replace the "make install" directive, by checkinstall02:09
pussfellermaybe i need to restart hal02:09
flixexcellent, will try that!02:10
pussfellerhal shouldnt affect the kern.log or messages tho02:10
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gorusdidnt anybody install nvidia driver here ??02:12
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brodeloi, I have a guy at work that I'm trying to get into linux. Me being a newbie myself, it's hard to help with certain things. One thing I thought you guys might be able to help me with is the USB drives. On my PC when I stick in a USB drive it automounts and puts it on the desktop. On his I had to go find it somewhere in /media. Can I get his to automount like mine?02:18
ganymedthx a lot and ciao02:21
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Brydennk i have a question about the damn clock02:25
Brydenni dont know WHY this is happening... but the clock will somehow be AHEAD time after being left alone for several hours02:26
Brydennwhy is the clock getting ahead of the real time?02:26
Brydennis there a way for it to say in touch with a "network" so it's always in synch?02:27
Brydenn*stay in touch02:27
Brydennlol well dont everyone talk at once lmfao ;)02:28
theballhey brydenn02:29
theballif you go into adjust date and time you can tell it to adjust automatically02:29
theballright click the clock02:29
theballbrydenn you still here02:31
Brydennyes i'm here02:31
Brydennsorry :)02:31
theballso whats new with you?02:32
Brydennyah go to Adjust Date and Time right?02:32
Brydennthen check mark the Set date and time automatically box right?02:32
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theballyeppers, works for me anyway02:32
Brydennyah well it works too... however02:33
Brydennonce i do that02:33
Brydennand leave the computer running overnight (for example)... the next day its like 5 to 10mins fast02:33
Brydenni dont know how the hell that happens02:33
Brydennbut its irritating02:33
Brydenni want the damn thing to adjust itself every hour on the hour if need be02:34
theballi have seen that 2 or 3 times at my shop, typically its because the rtc onboard is going goofy02:34
Brydennyah i wouldnt doubt it any02:34
Brydennbut still02:34
Mronohey guys02:34
MronoI got a major issue02:34
Brydennlet me guess02:34
Brydennyou watched Brokeback Mountain and liked it?02:34
MronoI updated my video card by following the instructions in the walkthrough02:35
ubotuhmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=42358902:35
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Mronoand now when I boot up it loads everything and then it freezes02:35
Mronodoesn't matter what I do02:35
theballbb got dinner on the table02:35
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Brydennbuy an nVidia card :)02:35
Mronoharr harr02:35
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Mronofricking toshiba02:36
Brydenndamn Mrono ... that ATI card is giving you trouble02:36
JohnFluxHow do I send someone a message via nickserv?02:36
Brydennyah i wouldnt buy a lappy without an nVidia02:36
MronoI just did a fresh install too02:36
Mronowiped out my linux install and reinstalled it02:36
BrydennJohnFlux: you mean a private message?02:36
Mronohaving issues with making stuff too02:36
JohnFluxBrydenn: yeah02:36
JohnFluxBrydenn: they aren't logged in at the moment02:36
Brydennjohn type /msg <nickname> <message>02:36
Brydennyou want to leave a memo then02:37
JohnFluxBrydenn: so I want them to get the message when they log in02:37
JohnFluxfor some reason I see nothing when doing /msg nickserv help02:37
JohnFluxnothign relevant02:37
BrydennJohnFlux: type /msg memoserv help02:37
Brydennhas all the answers you need02:37
JohnFluxah memoserv!02:37
Brydennlol I know IRC dammit02:37
Mronoif I hit ctrl+f1 i can get to another login prompt02:37
Brydennhahah (k)Ubuntu... i'm a n00b02:38
Mronoand log in and ieverything and it doesn't freeze02:38
Brydennthats bizzare Mrono02:38
MronoI tried killing everything that booted as well02:38
Brydenni dunno what to tell ya02:38
Mronothen switching back02:38
Mronofrooze as soon as I did02:38
MronoI really don't want to reinstall again02:38
Brydennseriously though Mrono ... this OS isnt bad02:38
Mronolet me tell ya02:39
Mronothis OS has given me more issues then windows has ever02:39
Mronothe last week has been hellf or me02:39
Brydennnp JohnFlux02:39
Brydenngot your memo02:39
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JohnFluxBrydenn: :)02:39
JohnFluxMrono: Blame ATI :-)02:39
Mronounless your a hot chick with a nice ass I wouldn't go around giving people hugs02:40
Brydennlol @ Mrono02:40
BrydennMrono:  does blame ATI02:40
Brydennbut he has a lappy02:40
Mronogood thing I installed windows02:40
Brydennits not like he can just swap cards02:40
JohnFluxah a lappy with ATI02:40
JohnFluxeven worse :)02:40
JohnFluxactually my lappy with ATI worked fine :)02:40
Mronotoshiba satellite P35-s11102:40
BrydennMrono: what kinda lappy is it02:40
Brydenna toshiba what? what series02:40
Mronoand don't even get me started on this laptop02:41
callieanyone know how to flash a bios without using jumpers?02:41
JohnFluxMrono: I had a toshiba P30 which worked fine02:41
JohnFluxMrono: go figure :)02:41
JohnFluxcallie: you want to update the firmware, or just restore the settings to default?02:41
Brydenncallie: that info is typically in your motherboard manual ;)02:41
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calliethat helps a lot Brydenn02:42
callieits an computer i found02:42
Brydennheh ;) np callie02:42
Brydenni'm not too sure callie02:43
Brydennif you knew the brand and series you could maybe look it up on google or tomshardware02:43
calliespare me the smartarse then02:43
Mronoguess what I got02:43
MronoI got an internship02:43
Brydennoh god02:43
Brydennnot with bill clinton i hope ;)02:43
Mronodoing networking at a local computer store02:43
Mronobeing only 19 this is very good for me02:44
callieJohnFlux, i'm trying to correct a CMOS checsum error and flashing the BIOS  via jumpers doesnt seem to correct it02:44
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Mronoit'll give me the experience I need02:44
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JohnFluxcallie: stop saying flashing the bios via jumpers02:45
JohnFluxcallie: it doesn't mean anything :)02:45
callieJohnFlux, it doesnt?02:45
dcodeI need some help....my debconf is totally farked...now any package that depends on it can't intstall02:45
dcodedebconf fails during the setup stage of the package02:45
callieJohnFlux, you know what i mean02:45
JohnFluxcallie: you are either flashing the bios to replace the firmware02:45
callieok reseting02:46
JohnFluxcallie: or you are resetting to default values02:46
JohnFluxcallie: not whatever, you need to be clear which you want to do and what you are doing :)02:46
JohnFluxcallie: does your system boot?02:46
callieyou're splitting hairs a little02:46
JohnFluxits important02:46
callieno need to be obtuse02:46
JohnFluxstop being difficult!02:47
JohnFluxdoes your system boot?02:47
calliei think thats what i'm saying02:47
Brydenni'm downloading Gentoo 2006.0 right now02:47
Brydenncant wait to see it :)02:47
calliewhich question shall i answer first JohnFlux ?02:47
JohnFluxcallie: the boot one02:47
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JohnFluxcallie: does it boot at the moment02:47
theballbrydenn have u ever succesfully installed gentoo?02:47
Brydennholy $h*t ... 800k/sec download hehe02:47
Brydenntheball: yes02:48
Brydennjust never installed gnome or kde02:48
callieJohnFlux, no it doesnt, but the hard drive is blank02:48
theballi have yet got it going happy02:48
dcodecan someone help me fix my debconf problem?02:48
Brydennsorry theball its not all that hard though :(02:48
JohnFluxcallie: but it does continue and attempt to boot?02:48
JohnFluxcallie: can you enter the setup?02:48
theballguess i just didnt read the instruction right!lol02:48
ramonmartinezkubuntu sucks ass02:48
callieJohnFlux, it doesnt seem so, and no i cant enter setup02:49
Mronosomeone who agrees02:49
JohnFluxcallie: when it gives you that error, does it just hang there?02:49
callieJohnFlux, yup02:49
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Mronowhere the hell are all the experts02:49
JohnFluxMrono: the ati drivers for your laptop don't work02:50
g4syhey guys... anyone setup a palm on kubuntu? i've done it a million times in debian etc but... ubuntu seems to be eluding me02:50
JohnFluxMrono: what can we do?02:50
JohnFluxMrono: bug ati :)02:50
theballMrono did you get the ati problem figured out yet, i was gone02:50
Mronohow do I roll back these drivers02:50
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JohnFluxMrono: apt-get remove  them then rerun  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:51
JohnFluxcallie: It shouldn't just hang02:51
JohnFluxcallie: when did you start getting this problem?02:51
Mronoi'll go try that02:51
JohnFluxcallie: I think the CMOS error is a side effect of a broken motherboard02:51
JohnFluxcallie: that happens fairly often02:51
theballMrono dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg pick the generic driver from the list and then reboot and uninstall the drivers u installed.02:51
JohnFluxtheball: beat you :)02:52
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theballnow i see opps!02:52
httpdsscallie: battery ?02:52
theballyou rock today JF02:52
callieJohnFlux, well like i said its a computer i found so guess thats why it was on the street02:52
g4syanybody? i have the usbserial and visor modules loaded.... but NOTHING comes up in dmesg or anywhere else when i hit the sync button on my palm02:52
calliehttpdss, tried that one02:52
Mronoi'm just going to kill that one02:52
JohnFluxhttpdss: That's my first thought, but if it hangs then replacing the battery won't help02:52
Mronoblow it away02:52
Mronogood bye linux02:53
JohnFluxcallie: it shouldn't hang, so I'm 99% sure you have a mobo problem02:53
Mronocya guys, i'm gone for good02:53
callieJohnFlux, shame, i was gonna try and build a server from it too02:53
Mronoi've given up on linux02:53
JohnFluxcallie: luckily the motherboard is the cheapest componenet in the box02:53
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ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:53
callieJohnFlux, especially for a socket 37002:54
JohnFluxg4sy: are you sure ubuntu even targets the palm?02:54
theballg4sy: did you start the setserial to listen yet?02:54
g4syno i didn't .... never had to do that with debian. could you explain, theball?02:55
theballhang on g4sy getting the page i used02:55
g4sythnx man!!02:55
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theballcrap web just bogged02:58
g4sylol... i could search for it if you give me a couple ideas03:00
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theballQ: How to configure PalmOS Devices?03:04
theball   1. Read General Notes03:04
theball   2.03:04
theball      sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/10-custom.rules03:04
theball   3. Insert the following line into the new file03:05
theball      BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL="ttyUSB*", NAME{ignore_remove}="pilot", MODE="666"03:05
theball   4. Save the edited file (sample)03:05
theball   5. System -> Preferences -> PalmOS Devices03:05
theball   6. Follow the instructions on screen03:05
theballsorry for the paste of all03:05
theballg4sy i was thinking of when i configured my pocket pc03:05
theballthis approach does work03:05
theballg4sy i did a search for configure ubuntu with usb palm several good google responses03:07
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theballg4sy see if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78918.html03:10
theballBrydenn you still around?03:10
Brydennwhats up?03:11
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theballhow does gentoo look or behave as opposed to other distros?03:11
Brydenni dont know yet03:11
Brydennthe latest version of Gentoo is out03:12
Brydenncame out yesterday03:12
Brydenni downloaded and installed the old version... but i never installed gnome or KDE03:12
Brydennit was just command line03:12
theballlet me know what you think, i would like to give it a try again03:12
Brydenni believe its BSD based though03:12
Brydennok theball ... i'll let ya know03:12
Brydenni'm 60% done with the download now :)03:13
Brydenni'm gonna instal it in VMware03:13
theballdo you have a spare machine or hard drive for this ?03:13
Brydenni have 3 hard drives03:13
Brydennone is 120 gigs, one is 80 i think and the other is like 1703:13
Brydenni have more space than i need lol03:13
theballi have a 120 and its all but full of all of my cd,s03:14
theballneed more space on that pc03:14
Brydennwhat CDs do you have on there?03:14
theballgot pclinux os running on that machine yesterday03:14
Brydennis it just audio CDs or programs?03:14
BrydennPCLinux hahaha03:14
Brydennlame lame lame03:15
theballjust music03:15
Brydenni hate that OS03:15
Brydenni remember tyring it03:15
theballitworks so simple and easy03:15
theballi left it03:15
theballeverything worked from the get go03:15
theballnot much of a challenge03:15
Brydennhehe 451k/sec on this gentoo download ;)03:16
Brydenni love cable internet03:16
theballyeah when the neighborhood isnt sucking it down!!03:16
theballi have wireless from my job to here, its pretty quick03:16
Brydennyah well apparently i dont have a bunch of computer nerds in my area haha03:16
Brydennyah thats why i want a lappy03:17
Brydenni have a couple wireless networks in my area03:17
Brydennthey're just out of range03:17
Brydennone of them might be the starbucks across the way03:17
Q_Continuummore powerful wireless card then.03:17
Brydennbut i wanna crack their damn WEP03:17
Q_Continuumand/or Pringlescantenna03:17
Brydennlol or maybe just get an amplifier03:17
Q_Continuumsame diff.03:17
Q_Continuumpringles = cheaper03:18
Q_Continuumand very directional03:18
Brydennmoney is no object to me lol03:18
Brydennlol j/k ;)03:18
Q_Continuumwell, pringles = more fun03:18
Brydennwhy's that03:18
Q_Continuumyou learn about it.03:18
theballjust get a card that accepts external antenna03:18
Q_Continuumthen if you want a wide-range antenna, you use a coffee can instead.03:18
theballthat can get you 24dbi gain03:18
Q_Continuumwhen you make a pringles/coffee can, YOU pick the power :D03:19
Brydennthats funny as hell03:19
theballi am shooting 12 mile with this one and get 600+ k constant03:19
Q_Continuumwant enough to nuke the ants on the sidewalk?  Go ahead.03:19
Brydennwhat? theball  are you serious?03:19
theballvery much so, been in place for 3 years now03:20
Brydenntheball: we're gonna talk PM lol03:21
theballi am firing over the colombia river and it shows a 5 mg connection03:21
Q_ContinuumDefcon wifi shootout03:21
Q_Continuum72 miles current record03:21
Q_Continuumsignal lost due to driving over a hill.03:22
Q_ContinuumLOS failure.03:22
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Brydenndamn 72 miles is nuts03:25
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coolio10anyone here?03:29
HymnToLifehi :)03:31
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gleesondI can't figure out how to make kubuntu not turn off my monitor03:45
gleesondcould it be that gnome is messing with stuff because I had ubuntu before I switched to kubuntu03:46
Q_Continuumfirst or second monitor, when, and what changes, if any, did you do?03:47
gleesondits the only monitor that I have. I have not made any in KDE that I can think of03:47
Q_ContinuumHow did you switch, just reinstall, and wipe out the old partitions, or what?03:47
gleesondI added the KDE pkgs and the kubuntu desktop03:48
gleesondeverything seems to work great, I just cant seems to keep my monitor on03:49
Q_Continuum(not being much of a *nix guru myself) sounds like KDE is using a different configuration file, and it isn't configured to work with your monitor.03:49
Q_ContinuumI can't really help beyond that, but hopefully someone here can.03:49
marc_the monitor just goes off while your working?03:50
sampanwhat's the command for stopping/restarting cups?  (i had to turn off my printer to put in new toner and now it's not printing -- restarting cups might return it to functionality?)03:51
gleesondno, it goes to sleep after a while03:51
gleesondof not doing anything03:52
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marc_sounds like it may be the power saving features03:52
gleesondit would be a   power management option but I cant find that particular option03:53
marc_check in system settings for the display.  there should be a 'power control' tab.03:53
marc_on that tab you should find "power off after:"03:53
gleesondthats the wierd thing, the power managment check box is not even checked03:54
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gleesondshould I enable power management display. but that seems to be counter to what my problem is03:56
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marc_just for kicks, i would try enabling power management and set 'power off after' to disabled.03:57
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gleesondnow I guess I'll see the results after I go to bed03:59
gleesonduh, I guess I wont see them03:59
gleesondbut in the morning03:59
ronaldson40I have this problem : I have a rar file split into par00.rar, part01.rar....u understand the meaning ... I tried opening this with unrar... It cannot handle it... If it were windows I could use Winrar...So wats the alternative03:59
ronaldson40for kubuntu03:59
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Ex-Cyberronaldson40: which unrar are you using?04:00
Ex-CyberI think the latest unrar-nonfree can handle that scheme but I'm not sure04:01
ronaldson40the one i downloaded from Adept just yesterday04:01
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kameronanyone running dvorak layout?04:03
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avatarmanhas anyone installed the game EternalLands?04:04
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kleptoanyone know how to lockout ssh passwords on 3 bad password attempts?04:05
frogfrogfrogi get this error when trying to install kubuntu E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kicker_4%3a3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/apps/kmenu.png', which is also in package kdelibs-data04:06
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graftcan anyone tell me how i can configure that media-auto-run thing? It's not in kcontrol...04:09
graftthat i can find04:09
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graftno one's ever active here04:10
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_ubuntu_i need some help if possible04:18
kleptowhat's the prob?04:18
_ubuntu_I'm running kubuntu off the live disk and need to dock my portable harddrive04:18
_ubuntu_so i can save some stuff04:19
_ubuntu_could you explain to me breifly how to do it or give me the syntax required?04:19
kleptodid you mount the drive?04:19
_ubuntu_don't know how..04:20
_ubuntu_i need to mount...04:20
kleptowhat file system is it?04:20
_ubuntu_what do you mean?04:21
_ubuntu_I'm runnin Kubuntu live04:21
kleptois it windows formatted drive, or a linux formatted drive?04:21
_ubuntu_not formatted04:21
_ubuntu_i just have it parted04:21
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_ubuntu_i have about 8 gigs to mount...04:22
kleptohmm.. do you know the physical address? like /dev/hda?04:22
_ubuntu_no sorry how could i figure that out?04:23
_ubuntu_i have it04:23
kleptodo this:04:23
kleptomkdir /mnt/harddrive04:24
kleptomount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive04:24
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_ubuntu_it says permission denied04:24
kleptosudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive04:24
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_ubuntu_it sais that it doesn't exist04:26
kleptolet me check if i have the format correctly04:26
frogfrogfrogi get this error when trying to install kubuntu04:26
frank23is the mount point created?04:26
frogfrogfrogE: /var/cache/apt/archives/kicker_4%3a3.4.3-0ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/128x128/apps/kmenu.png', which is also in package kdelibs-data04:26
kleptothat format is correct04:28
kleptoit says that /dev/hdb2 doesn't exist?04:28
marc_where did u see media:/sdb2? could it already have been automounted by kde?04:28
_ubuntu_ubuntu@rs232169:~$ sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive04:29
_ubuntu_mount: mount point /mnt/harddrive does not exist04:29
_ubuntu_ubuntu@rs232169:~$ sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive04:29
_ubuntu_mount: mount point /mnt/harddrive does not exist04:29
_ubuntu_ubuntu@rs232169:~$ sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb2/ /mnt/harddrive04:29
_ubuntu_mount: mount point /mnt/harddrive does not exist04:29
kleptosudo mkdir /mnt/harddrive04:29
kleptothen run the mount again04:29
_ubuntu_still nothing04:30
kleptogo to /mnt/harddrive04:30
kleptocd /mnt/harddrive04:30
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_ubuntu_i just unplugged it and plugged it back in..04:31
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_ubuntu_media:/sdb1  is what it called it now04:31
_ubuntu_ok i did the cd... it works so far..04:31
_ubuntu_now what?04:32
kleptowhat did you want to do with the drive?04:32
_ubuntu_no i mean04:32
_ubuntu_i typed that command and it changed the directory04:32
kleptotype df -h04:33
kleptopaste it here04:33
_ubuntu_ubuntu@rs232169:/mnt/harddrive$ df -h04:33
_ubuntu_Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on04:33
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_ubuntu_                      2.0G  1.3G  626M  68% /04:33
_ubuntu_tmpfs                 507M  4.0K  507M   1% /dev/shm04:33
_ubuntu_tmpfs                 507M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile04:33
_ubuntu_tmpfs                 507M   40K  507M   1% /tmp04:33
_ubuntu_tmpfs                  10M  3.0M  7.1M  30% /dev04:33
_ubuntu_/dev/sdb1             5.9G  414M  5.5G   7% /media/sdb104:33
kleptoyour drive is mounted04:34
kleptokde mounted it04:34
kleptoso it's at /media/sdb104:34
_ubuntu_what does that mean?04:34
kleptocd /media/sdb104:34
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.04:34
_ubuntu_the change worked...04:35
kleptoyour drive is there04:35
_ubuntu_so i can save stuff off the net there now right04:35
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_ubuntu_alright thanks man04:35
kleptono prob04:35
_ubuntu_i'm new to the whole linux world..04:36
kleptoubuntuforums.org is a great place to ask questions04:36
kleptohave fun04:36
_ubuntu_i used to have ubuntu but i haven't had it in about 2 yrs04:36
_ubuntu_in ur mind what is the best form of linux to use?04:36
kleptoi like ubuntu and gentoo04:37
robotgeek_ubuntu_: did you expect anything else in #kubuntu :)04:37
_ubuntu_what are the perks of gentoo over ubuntu04:37
kleptoubuntu has a great community04:37
_ubuntu_any chance you could help me get a c compiler on this thing?04:38
_ubuntu_i have a program i need to write and i don't wanna have to go back to windows right now04:38
kleptoyou should already have one04:38
julianhey people04:38
robotgeek_ubuntu_: sudo apt-get install build-essential04:38
julianhow r u all?04:38
juliani have a little problem04:39
robotgeekjulian: don't ask to ask, just ask04:39
juliani have installed winetools and xdialog04:39
_ubuntu_thanks rob04:39
_ubuntu_and klept04:39
julianthey both installed correctly04:39
kleptono prob04:39
julianbut when i execute winetools04:39
juliani get this message04:39
juliandetectando la versin de Wine...done.04:40
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julianDrive C: is /home/julian/.wine/drive_c04:40
julianWine 0.9.804:40
julianse ejecuta wine como wine04:40
julianLos parmetros son --noexit04:40
julianBrowser is /usr/bin/konqueror.04:40
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:40
julianWINEVER is "0.9.8".04:40
kleptowine isn't my forte either04:40
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julian/usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3300: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: is a directory04:40
AttAcKeRis there someaone to help me please ?04:40
julianse ejecuta wine como  "wine".04:40
julianConfig is /home/julian/.wine/winetools.log.04:40
julian/usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3211: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: is a directory04:40
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julian/usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3242: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: is a directory04:40
julian/usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3026: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: is a directory04:40
julianany suggestions?04:40
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.04:40
AttAcKeRsomeone to help please ?04:41
frogfrogfrogi get an error wheal installing kubuntu04:41
robotgeekjulian: i have never used wine, so i can;t help you, sorry04:41
robotgeekAttAcKeR: just ask04:41
frogfrogfrogbonbon in paste bin04:41
julianok, thanks anyway rob04:41
AttAcKeRI have problem with my mouse, it is not a ps2 mouse04:41
robotgeekand it is a serial or a usb mouse?04:42
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AttAcKeRbut in /etc/dev there is not ttyS0 only mice event0 and event104:43
frogfrogfrogi get an error while installing kubuntu something to do with kicker04:43
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AttAcKeRin xorg.conf what have i to change ?04:43
AttAcKeRdevice /dev/mice04:43
robotgeekAttAcKeR: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:43
AttAcKeRbut nothing change04:44
AttAcKeRhave i to change /dev/mice to /dev/ttyS0 ? i tried this but not working04:44
robotgeekAttAcKeR: i am really not sure, havent used a serial mice ever. sorry04:44
kleptoanyone know how to lockout ssh passwords on 3 bad password attempts?04:45
frogfrogfrogi get an error while installing kubuntu something to do with kicker04:45
_ubuntu_hey rob u there?04:46
AttAcKeRso what can i change to make it work ? in forum posts they say edit xorg.conf and put ttyS0 but where to put it ?04:46
_ubuntu_i ran that line of code... now what do i do?04:46
_ubuntu_how can i bring up the c compiler04:46
robotgeek_ubuntu_: the compiler is gcc04:46
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_ubuntu_so how do i use it?04:47
robotgeek_ubuntu_: http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Courses/C/clab2.html04:47
_ubuntu_i need a graphical compiler04:47
AttAcKeRplease someone help me with my mouse :)04:47
robotgeekAttAcKeR: feel free to ask in #ubuntu also04:47
trooper00_ubuntu_: i would shake that habit if i were you04:48
AttAcKeRok thanks04:48
robotgeek_ubuntu_: all graphical compilers use gcc too :)04:48
robotgeek_ubuntu_: plus, graphical compiler doesn't make sense04:48
_ubuntu_yea but i'm not that good at c lol04:48
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robotgeekyou mean an IDE04:48
_ubuntu_maybe? lol i'm new here lol04:48
robotgeek_ubuntu_: that's not a linux specific thing, really :)04:49
_ubuntu_lol alright04:49
_ubuntu_so am i safe to go to download.com and download a c compiler04:49
_ubuntu_like the dev c / c++ compiler?04:49
robotgeek_ubuntu_: no, you don't need one04:50
marc_an IDE is a graphical front-end to the compiler04:50
robotgeek_ubuntu_: gcc is the compiler, and if you need a compile button, use kdevelop04:50
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_ubuntu_ok how can i get an IDE or whatever?04:50
koshsudo apt-get install kdevelop304:51
koshthat will give you an ide04:51
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_ubuntu_it didn't work04:53
_ubuntu_E: Couldn't find package kdevelop304:53
koshyou are running kubuntu right?04:53
frank23_ubuntu_: you need to enable the universe repository04:53
frank23!tell _ubuntu_ about repos04:54
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frogfrogfrogi get an error while trying to install kubuntu-desktop04:55
robotgeekfrogfrogfrog: apt-get -f install ?04:55
frogfrogfrogi dont understand04:57
frogfrogfrogthe error is in the paste bin04:58
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robotgeekfrogfrogfrog: and the link?04:58
robotgeekfrogfrogfrog: did you install any other packages, etc?05:00
frogfrogfrogyeah i installed all of them05:01
robotgeekfrogfrogfrog: i meant, from other sources/mixed repositories?05:01
frogfrogfrogmaybe tis quit possible05:02
frank23frogfrogfrog: that was my guess too. did you install stuff from non ubuntu sources?05:02
frogfrogfrogwhat ones should i use or not use05:02
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robotgeekfrogfrogfrog: if you stick to the official ubuntu sources, you will be fine05:02
vandalhey guys how can i get hyper threading working on my machine ( i installed smp kernel)05:02
frogfrogfrogok i will try05:03
frank23vandal: they found hyperthreading was a security risk so its disabled by default. I dont know how to activate it though05:03
vandali read how to05:03
vandalbut it doesn't appear to work05:03
vandalht=on kernel param05:03
frank23frogfrogfrog: you could try to force the install of kicker05:04
Q_ContinuumFor whatever reason, I can't get the second display to work. (Nvidia TwinView) www.outspokengeek.net/misc/xorg.conf05:04
Q_ContinuumSecond video port (whichever monitor I hook up) won't get a signal it can handle.05:04
frank23vandal: I don't know how to enable HT, sorry05:05
frogfrogfrogfrank23:  sudo apt-get -f install kubuntu-desktop05:05
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frank23frogfrogfrog: did you try that?05:06
coolhi guys!05:06
frogfrogfrogfrank23: yes05:06
coolanyone can help me05:06
frank23cool: just ask05:06
coolhow to configure my network05:06
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cooli can't configure it05:07
frank23what do you want to do?05:07
cooli want to change my Ip add05:07
cooland i want to put my domain05:07
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cooli can't find my self in the network05:07
coolbut i can see them!05:08
coolthey using windows platform05:08
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cooland only me using kubuntu05:08
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:08
coolhow will  i do bro05:08
frank23cool: I dont know much about networking.05:08
coolis the can help???05:09
coolis the site can help!!!!05:09
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coolco'z i want to setup a FTP server05:10
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frank23cool: check the ubuntu wiki and forums05:11
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coolfrank23 do u have some application that i can used in this platform??? like games etc....05:13
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frank23cool: what kind of application?05:14
cooldo u have other FTP application????05:14
coolor some games???05:14
coolif u don;t mind05:14
hatake_kakashicool: there are vsftpd, proftpd, wuftpd and I'm sure there are more.. if you googled it along with HOWTO, you will find some05:15
_ubuntu_ok i just downloaded the kdevelop off line....... now what do i do?05:16
frank23ftp client or server.  gftp is a good ftp client05:16
frank23_ubuntu_: what do you mean offline?  why dont you install it with adept?05:16
_ubuntu_i mean i have it installed..05:17
_ubuntu_now how do i get it goin05:17
_ubuntu_so i can program05:17
frank23_ubuntu_: I never used it. is it in the menu?05:17
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coolohh thanks!05:18
coolanybody here can share me the link :P05:18
frank23_ubuntu_: try kdevelop or kdevelop3 in a terminal05:18
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frank23cool: you can get all those ftp programs through adept05:19
coolahh ic05:19
_ubuntu_frank.. can u tell me how to do this?05:19
coolur a good coach :)05:19
_ubuntu_jsut start from teh beginning05:19
frank23cool: there are 1000s of programs available at your fingertips ;)05:20
frank23_ubuntu_: open a terminal  K->System->Terminal Program05:21
_ubuntu_got it05:21
frank23try kdevelop05:21
_ubuntu_bash: kdevelop: command not found05:22
frank23kdevelop3 then?05:22
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_ubuntu_can u just tell me how to get it from step one05:22
frank23_ubuntu_: how did you install kdevelop?05:22
_ubuntu_i dunno that i did...05:22
_ubuntu_can u just explain from square 105:23
frank23!tell _ubuntu_ about repos05:23
_ubuntu_didn't help05:23
_ubuntu_i tried that..05:23
_ubuntu_wasn't there05:23
frank23did you add universe?05:23
_ubuntu_i'm runnin kubuntu anyway05:23
_ubuntu_yea i think05:23
frank23_ubuntu_: the kubuntu instructions are at the end of the page05:24
farous_ubuntu_: did you try easysource05:24
coolwat is the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu????05:24
coolanyone knows???05:24
coolco'z i have no idea05:24
frank23cool: ubuntu use GNOME and kubuntu KDE05:25
farouscool just the looks all programs work on both equally05:25
coolco'z my linux is kubuntu05:25
frank23cool: you can even have both at the same time if you want05:25
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous05:26
faroushmm works on debian though lol05:26
coolhow??? can u share me the idea???05:26
farouscool try googling on diff window managers for looks. Gnome and KDE are desktops though05:26
frank23cool: how to get GNOME too??05:26
farousinstall ubuntu-desktop05:27
frank23cool: in adept you install the  ubuntu-desktop package.  the menus get messy though because it installs a bunch of programs05:27
hatake_kakashion KDE you may only see mostly Gnome apps, same vice-versa05:28
coolwow nice...05:28
farouscool better use sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop05:28
farousso if you do not like it you can just type sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-desktop to get rid of it05:28
hatake_kakashiit can be done with apt-get as well05:28
coolin a terminal????05:28
faroushatake_kakashi: not with all dependencies05:29
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hatake_kakashisudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop05:29
frank23farous: do you know if you need to install with aptitude to be able to purge like that05:29
farousapt-get does not keep track of all installed packages depending on the meta package ubuntu-desktop05:29
frank23hatake_kakashi: that doesnt work. it will not remove everything05:29
hatake_kakashifarous: heh well I'm too used to using apt-get, aptitude seems a little too odd at times with its 'half-GUI05:29
farousfrank23: nothing to be installed with it05:29
faroushatake_kakashi: i never use the aptitude gui :)05:30
farousand by the way i do not recommend it for it is buggy05:30
hatake_kakashifarous: I mean just typing 'aptitude' on the command line through konsole :)05:30
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hatake_kakashioh well too late my other box has ubuntu as main base and kubuntu-desktop to add that extra bit05:31
coolguys brb!!!05:31
farouscool cool ;)05:31
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faroushi Hobbsee and congrat for membership :) though late05:34
Hobbseehey farous - thankyou :)05:34
farousurw :)05:35
frank23what does that mean? memebrship05:35
Hobbseefarous: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember05:36
farousHobbsee: that is for frank23 right :)05:36
Hobbseeer, yeah05:36
frank23Hobbsee: thats pretty cool ;)  what is your contribution to the project?05:37
farousoh by the way anyone running latex i highly recommend lyx1.4 though still in testing :( but it is incredibally great :)05:38
Hobbseefrank23: packaging, irc, some wiki stuff05:39
frank23Hobbsee: cool. Is dapper the 3year supported release or is that the one after?05:40
Hobbseefrank23: that's this one05:40
frank23Are they gonna market it more? Get in the big leagues?05:41
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Hobbseefrank23: i presume so, got no idea05:45
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brydennwho was it here earlier that was asking me about Gentoo?05:56
brydennand getting it successfully installed?05:56
farousbrydenn: i think when you use it no one will ans ;)05:57
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brydennhehe yah maybe05:59
brydennwell the latest version of gentoo... version 2006.0 is easy to install. a retard can do it... seriously.05:59
farousbrydenn: than i might give it a try ;)05:59
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farousbrydenn: do i need a lot of compilation and manual config ?06:01
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brydennfarous: no... it has a gui front end now that walks you through everything06:03
brydenneasy as hell06:03
faroushmm and what is the gain. Am just asking what is the diff from ubuntu?06:04
frank23brydenn: I tried to install gentoo once but wasnt successful. I didnt try too hard though. I did it from step 1 or tier 1 or whatever its called06:04
brydennstage1 you mean06:05
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brydennthats basic install06:05
brydennfrank23: let me give you the link.. hold on06:05
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brydennfrank23: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/releases/x86/2006.0/livecd/06:06
brydenngo there and download the .iso06:06
brydennif you want06:06
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brydennfarous... whats to gain? well i am too new to linux to tell you for certain. But i've heard Gentoo and Debian are pretty good linux OSes06:07
faroussorry that was for wrong room06:07
frank23Yeah, thanks. I'm happy with ubuntu. maybe I'll try it in vmware. I don't know what is the advantages of gentoo for me. I think they have a great community though. But so do we ;)06:07
brydennGentoo from what i've been told is very stable and has good overall preformance06:08
Q_ContinuumDebian is pretty good, but not exactly user-friendly.06:08
brydennyah frank23 i got it in VMware now hehe06:08
Q_ContinuumUbuntu/Kubuntu is Debian-simplified.06:08
brydennyes i understand Q_Continuum06:08
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Q_Continuumnever tried Gentoo though...06:08
Q_ContinuumI learned the hard way, myself.06:09
Brydennyah i'm gonna give it a whirl06:09
Q_Continuumfrom dialup.06:09
Q_Continuumoh wait - that was mandrake.  Debian I never got the modem working.06:09
Q_Continuum"I just downloaded the Mozilla package at 18MB...and now I need HOW MANY dependencies!?!?!"06:09
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CyberMadhow to upgrade the installed packaged? right now i use FreeRADIUS v1.0.1 and i would like upgrade it to v1.1.006:37
frank23CyberMad: well 1.0.4 is in the repository06:40
CyberMadso there is no way to upgrade it to 1.1.0 from apt? then i must install it from source/06:40
frank23CyberMad: If that's not enough, you can try to find a deb repository for it but installing from source is the safest way06:41
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CyberMadok then..06:41
frank23CyberMad: are there new features in the latest version that you need?06:42
CyberMadrlm_sqlcounter i need it.. i just can't find it at 1.0.1 or maybe i don't know where is it? :) do you know?06:42
frank23CyberMad: do you know how to install from source?06:42
CyberMadyes,.. i already tried install freeradius from source before06:43
CyberMad./configure   make   make install :)06:43
frank23CyberMad: try checkinstall   instead of make install.06:43
CyberMaddo you ever use freeradius?06:43
frank23It makes a .deb and installs it for you06:44
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frank23It's more apt friendly06:44
CyberMadfrank23 i never use checkinstall before06:44
frank23no. I have no idea what it does06:44
CyberMadso, i must do ./configure then: make  then: checkinstall  ?06:45
frank23you just install checkinstall and   substitute the sudo make install step for  sudo checkinstall06:45
frank23then the package shows up in synaptic, adept, its easier to manage and remove06:45
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CyberMadi don't use KDE06:45
CyberMadi just install the server mode06:46
frank23you could do apt-get remove for the package you just compiled06:46
CyberMadhow to find a package from keyword? i forget >.<06:49
Thedekapt-cache search bleh06:49
Dasnipa`apt-cache search06:49
CyberMadthanks,... :))06:50
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eob84does anyone know why my KDE menus won't update?06:51
eob84any time I install a new application...06:51
eob84the menu doesn't update06:51
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Dasnipa`eob84, i think you need smeg06:53
eob84what is that?06:53
Dasnipa`man smeg06:54
eob84no entry for it06:54
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Dasnipa`okay well the program should be listed in system < menu editor (smeg)06:55
eob84what does it do why do I need it06:56
eob84no it's not there06:56
eob84it isn't installed06:56
Dasnipa`well smeg, is a menu editor06:56
eob84I installed with kynaptic06:56
Dasnipa`so you should be able to add in your programs to the menu with it06:56
eob84hmm looks like I get errors when I try to run it06:57
eob84I have a ubuntu disk... I just did a server install then told it to install kubuntu-desktop06:57
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eob84I have never had more problems with a distro lol06:58
Dasnipa`are you actually running kde eob84? you do know you have to reboot and choose to startup with KDE06:58
eob84I get KDM06:58
eob84when I reboot06:58
eob84and not console06:58
eob84I didn't have to choose anything06:58
eob84I am in KDE06:58
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eob84I didn't have this problem last time I installed kubuntu-desktop06:59
Dasnipa`well i dont know what to tell ya... ive never had problems with ubuntu06:59
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eob84I didn't either up till now07:00
eob84I guess I need to just get the kubuntu ISO then07:00
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blankyhey guys07:00
blankyhow do I make the clock at the bottom right into local time or whatever instead of military07:00
Dasnipa`hi blanket07:00
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blankylol hello Dasnipa`  :)07:01
eob84is that how you installed... kubuntu ISO... or did you use ubuntu disk then just install kubuntu-desktop07:01
Dasnipa`i used apt-get to install kubuntu desktop07:01
blankyfine don't help me :'(07:02
eob84sigh... me too07:02
Dasnipa`and then for a couple months was booting to gnome still stupid me not realizing i wasnt in KDE07:02
Dasnipa`blanky, just a sec07:02
blankyDasnipa`, please cause I gotta go :(07:02
eob84i'ts odd it won't update my menu at all07:02
Dasnipa`blanky, i dont know off the top of my head... i would tell ya if i knew right away07:02
eob84ok help him... I am going to reinstall all my apps lol07:02
blankyoh well thanks Dasnipa` :(07:03
eob84I know blanky07:03
blankyeob84, really? can you please help me07:03
eob84you have to right click on it07:03
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eob84select date and time format07:03
eob84click the time and dates tab07:03
eob84pH:MM:SS AMPM07:04
blankyooo thanks sir!07:04
Dasnipa`oh yeah i knew that07:04
blankybye bye I gotta go to sleep :(07:04
Dasnipa`it was so long ago since i didthat07:04
blankylol thanks Dasnipa` :)07:04
eob84sigh... and I have a real problem lol07:04
Dasnipa`man i was helping this girl on here the other day had a whole lot more problems then you eob84... but none of them were with her system07:05
eob84it is more anoying then a problem...07:05
Dasnipa`she wanted to setup some apps and had no clue how to so i basically walked her thru using apt and stuff and youd tell her okay now perform ./configure07:05
eob84there use to be a menu update tool in KDE07:05
Dasnipa`and shed say it worked... then id say okay run make07:06
eob84did you direct her twords checkinstall07:06
Dasnipa`and make wouldnt work because configure didnt work07:06
Dasnipa`i didnt even bother because she couldnt understand anything for herself07:06
eob84yea manpages taught me all I know07:06
Dasnipa`yeah if you cant read a manpage then linux is not for you07:07
eob84the problem with these IRC rooms is everyone can ancwer easy stuff07:07
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eob84then when you come in with a hard problem like two people out of the 150 people can help you07:07
Dasnipa`yeah and the people that can answer the tough stuff are usually too busy to07:07
Dasnipa`because the people that can answer the tough stuff are in development so all their time goes to coding not working tech support07:08
eob84I had a hell of a time getting nvidia drivers to work07:09
Dasnipa`oh yeah i remember doing that07:09
Dasnipa`actually where i had problems with that was in debian07:09
eob84I had to solve my problem on my own07:09
Dasnipa`worked like a charm when i loaded up ubuntu07:09
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736807:10
Dasnipa`that didnt work for ya?07:10
eob84well yes07:10
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eob84but I needed editional steps07:10
eob84nvidia driver uses EDID07:10
Dasnipa`yeah yes and no for me too in deb... but not in ubu07:10
eob84my monitor is old and not compatible with EDID07:11
Dasnipa`what generation nvidia card?07:11
eob84not sure 6800 gt07:11
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Dasnipa`lol way more than i have hehe07:11
Dasnipa`my comp is old... 1.6 ghz p4 geforce3 ti20007:11
eob84well the driver uses your monitor HSYNC and VSYNC for the driver07:11
eob84EDID gets those values07:11
Dasnipa`and an old monitor cant send that info07:11
Dasnipa`i gotcha07:12
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eob84so I needed three lines in xorg that told it to use the values in xorg07:12
Dasnipa`so you probably had to lookup those values and enter the values in the conf file manually?07:12
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eob84but and tell the driver to IgnoreEDID07:12
eob84that was the line I needed07:13
eob84aparently I am the first person in the world to use a old monitor lol07:13
Dasnipa`installing gentoo really teaches you all you need to know about editing conf files hehe ;)07:13
eob84cause no one could help me07:13
eob84haha yea I know that07:13
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Dasnipa`and then some07:13
eob84I learned a lot using slackware07:13
SoBeIcedThow would i go about installing kubuntu on top of my pre existing gentoo installation07:14
Dasnipa`i did a stage 3 install once on a pentium2 300 mhz07:14
eob84like a duel boot?07:14
SoBeIcedTmaybe, i can live without gentoo07:14
eob84is your HD partitioned allready?07:14
Dasnipa`oo a duel boot? like the boots duel? with lightsabers?07:14
eob84easy then07:14
Dasnipa`hehe givig you a hard time eob8407:15
eob84install kubuntu on the unocupied partition07:15
SoBeIcedTill just kill windoze07:15
eob84and the kubuntu install will handle the rest07:15
Dasnipa`yeah... the grub installation should take care of setting up the bootloader for it07:15
SoBeIcedTis there a way to use the same home and users and stuff07:15
eob84well not really user07:15
eob84cause some libs and stuff are diffrent per distro07:16
Dasnipa`yeah probably not users... but you can mount that partition07:16
SoBeIcedThow about my application configs07:16
SoBeIcedTlike .gaim directory07:16
Dasnipa`you can probably get away with copying some of those files07:16
SoBeIcedTi have like years of chat logs and stuff like that07:16
Dasnipa`but maybe not all of them07:16
Dasnipa`chat logs and stuff you can probably get away with07:16
eob84that will be a postinstall setup07:16
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SoBeIcedTi really want to get away from gentoo, portage is way too slow for me07:17
eob84I know what you mean07:17
eob84so try this07:17
SoBeIcedTi cant stand compiling everything from scratch07:17
SoBeIcedTit was a good way to learn linux07:17
Dasnipa`tut tut07:17
SoBeIcedTbut now im moving on07:17
eob84save your home directory to a cd or a pen drive07:17
Dasnipa`usually its the other way for people lol07:17
Dasnipa`they switch to gentoo because you compile everything07:17
SoBeIcedTyeah, my friend introduced me to linux, and he was all hardcore like you have to do it this way07:18
eob84and just copy the contents of the old home to your new one07:18
Dasnipa`that = more optimized - faster system07:18
SoBeIcedTso you can learn how everything works07:18
SoBeIcedTi did a stage 1 install07:18
eob84well gentoo doesn't have everything in portage07:18
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eob84and if you want to create a package07:18
Dasnipa`no packaged distro can have _everything_07:18
eob84emerge is a real bitch to configure07:18
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SoBeIcedTso like basically built the system, its all ive ever used07:18
eob84well I use checkinstall with kubunt07:19
eob84i basically uses makewatch to watch the makeinstall command and creates a .deb package for you07:19
SoBeIcedTany other recomendations for distros07:19
eob84so if I need to do a source compile... I can07:20
SoBeIcedTim sure this is an unbiased audience07:20
eob84it is07:20
eob84I like ubuntu, or slackware the best07:20
eob84fedora has it's charm but the install is a little to bulky for my taste07:20
trooper00debian is great. i run it on every router i've ever configured.. i used to use it for my desktop but i appreciate having things configured for me, working right out of the install07:21
Dasnipa`i tried slackware didnt care much for it... ive installed about 8 different distros and ubuntu has been the easiest to install for me07:21
eob84I guess so07:21
SoBeIcedTive got no knowledge of other distros, i want to be able to do everything, i want some type of package management07:21
eob84not to many options07:21
Dasnipa`and yeah i didnt care too much for fedora and redhat and distros like that... way too bulky07:21
SoBeIcedTwhat do you mean by too bulky?07:22
eob84slackware is the closet to unix... thus the least compatability with certain linux sources07:22
eob84it comes with so much07:22
eob84it is like a 4 gig install07:22
macdthere are plenty of nice ackage management systems, (I use kubuntu myself apt-get)  but gentoos emerge is nice, as is bsd ports.07:22
trooper00heh. it comes with lack of package management.. its a great system to install and then break07:22
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macdIve never actualy had a linux install break :/07:23
eob84ubuntu has the best package system07:23
trooper00macd: install slackware and try to upgrade software over time :)07:23
yellohey has anyone had trouble running 3d programs using opengl with ati mobility vid cards?07:23
eob84hehe that is what I did07:23
macdI had some long running slack workstations07:23
eob84never had it break07:23
eob84tons of overhead in slackware07:23
eob84anyone a LFS fan lol07:23
macdoh yes, servers love LFS07:24
macdand SOL Linux07:24
macdturbolinux as well07:24
macdrh enterprose07:24
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eob84my friend did LFS07:24
Dasnipa`i broke a linux install once... on that 400 mhz box... but that was because i reformatted and installed distros on it like 12 times and eventually for the bootsector corrupted07:24
eob843 weeks later he had a base system lol07:24
macdheh, your bootloader can fix that easily.07:24
SoBeIcedTwhats lfs07:24
eob84linux from scratch07:25
macdhttp://pastebin.com/575742Linux From Scratch07:25
eob84basically your gentoo install... but without emerge07:25
macdheh prior to Linux thats a piece of code Im working07:25
eob84you have to compile everything your self07:25
SoBeIcedTsounds like fun07:25
eob84and install it your self07:25
eob84and if you want a package manager... install one07:25
macdjust dont use adept its very inept :)07:26
eob84I love linspire07:26
SoBeIcedTok so i just looked at some confs. i have 2 hds, i have a / partition and a home partition and a windows partition07:26
eob84it was the first stable debian distro07:26
SoBeIcedTcould i install kubuntu over the / partition07:26
Dasnipa`lol i still have an iso from when it was called lindows and they ran a promotion where they gave away the isos for free07:27
eob84yea you could07:27
trooper00first stable debian distro.. what sort of nonsense goes on in this channel07:27
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SoBeIcedTand configure it to use my home partition for aall the home directories07:27
eob84don't forget to tell ubuntu install that your home directory is /home07:27
macdjust get rid of the / partition then create a new partition07:27
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eob84getting games to run in linux has been disapointing07:28
macdehhh, its not a gaming platform07:28
eob84bought it07:28
eob84it can be07:28
eob84native games ran great07:28
Dasnipa`cedega has done a great job with that07:28
SoBeIcedThas anyone used an ipod with amarok in kubuntu?, ive tried using one in gentoo but i always seem to have problems07:28
eob84well cedega sux with CS: S07:28
macdI think its better suited to developers and "power users" rite now07:28
macdand the "handy" EU07:29
eob84yea I have07:29
Dasnipa`lol well CS is for jr high kiddies07:29
eob84it doesn't do a real good job with it07:29
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eob84haha no way07:29
eob84counterstrike source is so good07:29
eob84well I am going to give it up for the fill switch to linux07:29
Dasnipa`because the subscribers decide what the cedega developers work on nothing ever gets done for CS because most people hate that lol07:30
eob84I think linux is well suited for the home user07:30
me2wineob84: you could use cedega07:30
Dasnipa`havent you noticed that anytime a CS vote comes up it gets like -30007:30
eob84I own cedega07:30
eob84I pay the subscription07:30
eob84but the smoother 1.6 out lol07:30
eob84which is so odd07:30
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me2win*shrug* i dual boot just to play battlefield07:31
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eob84I duel boot only for CS: S and my pvr apps07:31
Dasnipa`speaking of the devil... how about vista having 6 versions? tech support nightmare07:31
eob84how about vista fucking off lol07:32
eob84I hate vista07:32
macdrough, or train your support staff for groups of product07:32
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Dasnipa`i see grandmas buying computers for their grandsons because they are cheap because they have that home basic version installed that has no support for anything else07:32
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eob84if I get one more app in windows written in VB I will flip07:32
Dasnipa`and then the grandson has to get a different version so that he can do anything other than internet and textedit07:33
Dasnipa`so m$ gets paid off twice07:33
Dasnipa`and thats how theyll make a killing on it07:33
me2winthats why usenet exists07:33
eob84not just that07:33
eob84but vista pts a tight grip on your PC07:34
eob84specific preccesor, graphics card07:34
Dasnipa`and i think that 3d desktop stuff is gay...07:34
eob84only runs signed windows apps07:34
Dasnipa`a desktop should not need 3d acceleration just to run07:34
eob84emeded mp3 protection07:34
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eob84I saw a vidoe07:35
eob84seemed pointless07:35
Dasnipa`omg we got "1337 speak"guys07:35
Dasnipa`apparently he doesnt know that real hackers dont use numbers for words07:35
eob84the lady had all the folders and windows spinning in a cirle07:35
frank23Dasnipa`: well did you guys see the xgl demo videos. they looked pretty cool07:36
me2winonce kde 4 comes07:36
me2winill be happy07:36
eob84when will I ever need to spin my windows in a cyclone?07:36
eob84anyone try kde 4.5?07:36
Dasnipa`eob84, considering half the computers america have an onboad videochip without directx... half of all people have to get a new computer if they want vista07:37
Dasnipa`4.5? lets not jump the gun07:37
me2win3.5 you mean?07:37
eob84ha yea07:37
me2winim using 3.5.1 right now07:37
eob84is that the veriosn that comes with kubuntu07:37
eob84so how is it then!07:38
Dasnipa`i think the bot has a doc on it07:38
ubotuDasnipa`: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:38
ubotu(you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".07:38
ubotuTo upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".07:38
frank23kubuntu comes with 3.4.3 but its easy to put 3.5.107:38
me2windapper comes with 3.5.107:38
me2winflight 4 does at leasdt07:39
robotgeek3.5.1 is very slick07:39
eob84are there any benefits to 3.5?07:39
Dasnipa`i would imagine there are07:40
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robotgeekbugfixes, and some bugs :)07:40
frank23eob84: I didnt notice much difference07:40
eob84if I can get tac ops working... I won't need CS07:41
frank23I'm sure there are improvements but I couldn't name you anything striking07:41
eob84so if you don't like HL2 what games do you play?07:41
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me2winWinning Eleven07:41
Dasnipa`me? i dont do much gaming... especially given that my comp is old07:42
eob84solitare then07:42
Dasnipa`just some older games07:42
eob84the legen of soltare07:42
Dasnipa`dII dungeonkeeperII some rpgs07:42
Dasnipa`i dont play anything consistantly07:43
Dasnipa`just when i need a break from hours of coding07:43
eob84what do you dev?07:43
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Dasnipa`nothing specific atm university student07:43
eob84when I dev... I dev games07:43
Dasnipa`i am in an independent study group doing game dev on a 2d-isomentric rpg though07:44
eob84I get pretty burnt out after a day all that07:44
me2winwhat languages?07:44
eob84that is my thing 2d isomet. MMORPG07:44
Dasnipa`mmorpg bleh07:44
eob84I was use DX but I stoped07:44
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frank232d isometric. is that the diablo view?07:44
Dasnipa`c++ mainly07:44
Dasnipa`and c07:45
Dasnipa`i know and hate java07:45
me2windont hate java07:45
me2winits useful sometimes07:45
me2winbut then again07:45
Dasnipa`its useful if you dont care about how much ram something is going to use07:45
me2winmost people who start with C++ end up hating everything else because they have less control07:45
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Dasnipa`and dont care about not having access to anything low level07:46
Dasnipa`yeah exactly07:46
_timhey wat video card best works with kubntu?07:46
Dasnipa`java is like a car with automatic trans... you are in the car but you arent actually driving it... c/c++ is a stickshift... then you are really driving07:46
me2win_tim: lots of video cards work with it07:46
_timlol yea but is nvidia more compatible that ati?07:47
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Dasnipa`java and languages like it limit the creativity of the developer07:47
me2winnvidia has better open GL support than ati07:48
_timok well then nvidia is prolly my choice07:48
Dasnipa`_tim, nvidia is generally more compatable because for awhile ati stopped putting out linux versions of drivers for their chips07:48
_timiv had tooo many problems with ati07:48
Dasnipa`but now they are making linux versions again07:48
me2winDasnipa`: java is very easy to use and develop in07:48
Dasnipa`right just like a car with auto trans is ez to drive07:48
me2wini LOVE c++, but i like java07:48
me2winafter programming so much with it07:48
Dasnipa`i dont hate java all that much just dont prefer it07:49
Dasnipa`its not like id go spam java forums with hate messages07:49
Dasnipa`i do like laughing at those who wish to do _everything_ in java07:50
Dasnipa`i tell them... yeah go program an operating system in java...07:50
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Dasnipa`robotgeek, its not like anyone is asking for help right now... the activity is good because then if someone comes in they see activity07:51
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robotgeekhmm, yes that is nice. Dasnipa`07:52
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me2winthe Java OS actually looks very promising07:52
Dasnipa`lol are you kidding?07:52
Dasnipa`that would take like 1.5 gig of ram minimum system requirement07:52
me2winthe demo video was very innovative07:53
Dasnipa`that is interesting07:53
Dasnipa`maybe one day when that much ram is a drop in the bucket07:53
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Dasnipa`i really hope my cd arrives tomorrow...07:55
Dasnipa`wow that was random sorry07:55
Tallia1Kubuntu[22:53]  <Tallia1Kubuntu> how can i change the program associated with a file in firefox?07:56
Tallia1Kubuntu[22:53]  <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have just seen that it doesn't consider KDE preferences..07:56
me2winwhat cd?07:56
Dasnipa`me2win, the latest dragonforce cd... european speed metal07:56
me2winTallia1Kubuntu: go to KDE preferences, click user account, then default applications07:57
me2winselect web browser07:57
me2winthe rest is intuition07:57
Tallia1Kubuntu:) tnx07:57
me2winDasnipa`: where do you live?07:58
Tallia1Kubuntuuser account?07:58
Dasnipa`im pretty much a music connoisour i have just a hair over 15,000 music files07:58
me2winDasnipa`: i have 140 gigs of music07:59
Tallia1Kubuntume2win: what do you mean by user account?07:59
Dasnipa`hehe very nice07:59
me2winthe User Account option07:59
Tallia1Kubuntuok nada07:59
Tallia1Kubuntui was in kcontro07:59
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy everybody prefers system settings now?08:00
Dasnipa`me2win, are you one of those who has that all in long techno files in like 256 kb/sec encoding? or is that all normal length songs08:00
me2winwhat version of kde do you have?08:00
me2winDasnipa`: nah, all normal length, its music dating back to the days of napster08:00
me2winwhen napster was free08:01
Dasnipa`yeah thats about same for me... except i got my music when i was a dj08:01
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Dasnipa`i was actualyl with a fairly large company they had some deal with the recording industry were i could get free songs08:02
Dasnipa`yeah it made me happy08:02
Dasnipa`but later i moved on to more unique styles scandinavian folk, traditional west african, european metals, and stuff like that08:03
Tallia1Kubuntume2win: i am in default applications now.. but i can't change the open with property of firefox, the only thing that i can do is to set firefox as default browser...08:03
me2winDasnipa`: nice08:04
me2winTallia1Kubuntu: isnt that the point?08:04
Dasnipa`me2win, i think he meant stuff that programs open with by default within firefox08:04
Dasnipa`like open a pdf... open with kghostview instead of evince08:04
Dasnipa`or such08:04
Tallia1Kubuntume2win: no...08:05
Tallia1Kubuntume2win: when i click on a wav file firefox offers me only to open with totem..08:05
Tallia1Kubuntume2win: and i'd like to open wav with realplayer08:05
me2wini see i see08:05
me2wini misunderstood08:05
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me2winthose are firefox options i believe08:08
me2winprobably in preferences08:08
me2wingo to edit08:09
me2winpreferences, downloads, then click where it says view and edit actions08:09
me2winTallia1Kubuntu: that should work08:09
Dasnipa`me2win, if you know of them... did you hear blind guardians new one was announced?08:10
me2winDasnipa`: didn't know08:10
Dasnipa`im excited about that one08:11
Dasnipa`me2win, headphones or nice speakers?08:13
me2winboth if possible08:13
me2wini have a pair of sennheiser hd55508:14
Dasnipa`i agree although the speakers i dont have anymore they fried on me...08:14
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Dasnipa`i had a klipsch promedia 5.108:14
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Tallia1Kubuntume2win: i have alredy tried that08:15
me2wini have a logitech 5.1 system08:15
Tallia1Kubuntui can't set anything :(08:15
Dasnipa`they got fried when my house was being added on to they dripped something into the sub08:15
Dasnipa`and i didnt notice and tried to fire em up and just heard zap08:15
Dasnipa`my hd265s i got for nearly a steal at 60$ considering the retail was 12008:16
me2wini got my 555s for 115, retail 20008:16
Dasnipa`i chose the 265s because of the distortion rating and freq range08:17
Dasnipa`< 0.15 dist 10-25,000 hz08:18
Dasnipa`its like 300 ohms so the SPL is low08:18
Dasnipa`but i dont need that all that much08:18
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Q_Continuumwhat's a good media player that also supports maintaining a library, ala Winamp or iTunes?08:25
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me2winbeep is like a winamp clone08:27
me2winbeep is actually xmms extended right?08:27
Dasnipa`i believe so08:27
Dasnipa`i personally dont care much for beep... but thats personal preference08:27
me2wini still think winamp is the best media player to date08:28
Dasnipa`nullsoft is a dead company now though...08:28
Dasnipa`we'll never see a new version08:28
me2winthey just released an update a few days ago08:28
me2winwinamp 5.208:29
Dasnipa`when did that happen? last i heard aol bought nullsoft and disbanded the company08:29
me2winthey've been releasing updates08:29
Dasnipa`when i did windows i prefered foobar anyway08:29
Dasnipa`i didnt care for winamp 4 and never cared for winamp 5... when i was a winamp user it was all about winamp 3 after that they tried to make it do too much08:30
Q_ContinuumI'll be writing up the new Winamp08:31
Dasnipa`its all about a program being good at one thing and sticking to that one thing... i dont want a video player in my audio player08:31
Q_Continuumthey finally sold out to higher AOL interests08:31
me2winDasnipa`: then dont enable the support08:32
me2wini used Media Player Classic to play video, winamp for audio08:32
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me2windidnt even enable video support on winamp08:32
me2winmedia player classic + ffdshow = all you need08:32
Dasnipa`me2win, its a programming level decision though because they dedicated time to write video integration thats fewer programmers making the audio system better08:32
me2winhow does the audio system get better than it does?08:33
Dasnipa`focused program development08:33
me2wineverything is there08:33
me2winac3 support08:33
Dasnipa`its not about supporting formats its in the audio translation08:33
me2winthey aren't any further behind than anybody else08:34
Dasnipa`i still hate to see when programmers try to extend their project beyond the scope of the programs intentions08:35
Dasnipa`emacs is the best example of that i can think of08:35
Dasnipa`i mean seriously does emacs need integrated games?08:35
me2winthe intention was to put out an all around good media player08:36
GullyFoyleyou can live your entire life in emacs. welcome to the matrix. :P08:37
Dasnipa`i dunno... i got disappointed with nullsoft when they put out winamp 4... and i know that 5 corrected their abortion in 4... but i had lost interest by then08:37
Dasnipa`i guess i never really gave 5 a chance... but by then i was satisfied with foobar08:39
Dasnipa`very light client08:39
Dasnipa`took like 1/3 the ram winamp used08:39
Dasnipa`and worked great08:40
me2wincan use winamp lite08:40
me2winall the features stay, just lite08:40
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Dasnipa`yeah it doesnt really matter anymore... the only reason i have an ntfs partition at all is because i dont feel like nor do i have the free space to copy my music and files over to a linux partition to format that partition to ext3 and move it back08:42
me2winand lol08:43
Dasnipa`okay it is indeed time for me to hit the hay...08:45
me2winheh aight08:46
me2winhave fun, cya later08:46
me2winim off too, cya08:47
coolhey guys! i have a question!!!!08:49
coolhow can i configure the su?????08:49
coolwhen i enter it08:49
coolit asking for a password???08:50
coolwat password can i supply>>????08:50
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:50
coolok thanks08:50
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rysiekhi there guys08:59
rysiekI've been searching the Kubuntu Wiki pages for it, but can't find the damn thing - and I am *sure* I've seen it! How to change Konqueror's"simplified" setting so thet it has it's normal, default ones?09:00
rysiekI mean: splitting the window, additional tool panel on the left, etc09:00
GullyFoylehey irssi is pretty kool. i'm so used to gui apps but this console thing aint half bad09:00
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ubotumethinks konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org09:00
rysiek!konqueror profile09:01
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek09:01
Hobbseerysiek: is it in wiki.ubuntu.com/PsiJack by any chance?09:01
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angasulehmm, there are two eric packages, I think they are the same software (Although different minor versions)09:05
angasulealso, the font installation through the context menu is borked09:05
rysiekHobbsee: nope, that's not it, although it's a nice one, too :)09:07
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Hobbseeah ok09:07
id_sonicI use Konqueror , when I click "Ctrl" it display the access keys for me. but I don't want it, how can I do?09:08
id_soniconlyone can help me?09:09
rysiekwith what? :)09:09
id_sonicI use Konqueror , when I click "Ctrl" it display the access keys for me. but I don't want it, how can I do?09:10
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rysiekoh... I don't have a clue :/09:10
coolbrb guys!!!09:11
id_sonicI just wanna cry..09:11
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robewaldid_sonic: you cannot do anything, there is no option for that09:12
robotgeekhey jpatrick09:13
robewaldid_sonic: except for removing the relevant part in the source09:13
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id_sonicrobewald oh, thanks09:14
jpatrickhey robotgeek09:14
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rysiekanybody any ideas? I'm searching through the Wiki, but still no luck09:15
robotgeekid_sonic: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/156909:16
robotgeekrysiek: what do you need help with, konq profiles?09:16
rysiekI don't want the "simplified" Konqueror09:18
rysiekI would love to have the full-blown, heavy'n'dirty one back :)09:18
robotgeekkonqueror --profiles lists all the profiles09:19
robotgeekkonqueror --profile webbrowsing09:19
robotgeekmaybe, later you can save the profile to your choosing09:20
rysiekok, testing09:21
rysiekdamn, they're all the same o_O09:22
rysiekI remember one had to delete/rename a file somewhere - but where? that's the question09:22
rysiekrofl... and I've search both Wikis through :] 09:23
rysiek"If you cannot find it, you're looking in the wrong place". thx, jpatrick09:24
jpatrickboth wikis?09:25
rysiekKubuntu and Ubuntu... or are they the same Wiki with a different look? :] 09:26
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id_sonicrobewald thanks, are you a konqueror developer ?09:26
jpatricksame, different look09:26
jpatrickand edubuntu's09:26
rysiekI definetely woke up too early today09:26
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coolhello guys09:28
coolim back!09:28
coolquestion again!!! :p09:28
rysiekgo for it ;)09:28
coolhow can i change the permission of the folder usr???09:29
cooli can't paste any file there09:29
rysieksamoura: I'm not a registered users, I can't send privs09:29
rysiekjust write it here :)09:29
coolpls help me guys!!!!09:30
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rysiekcool: sudo chmod <permissions> /usr09:30
rysiekbut I would not recommend that09:30
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rysiekit has the perms it has not without a reason - one being not allowing the users to fcuk up something09:31
samouracan anybody try to example for me this ;( http://friends.polibuda.info/~grusin/howto-en.php   i am trying to setup psontic bot and i cant anderstand it09:31
w4eg_illuminatusfriend of mine  did a "chmod -R 777 /" ...09:32
w4eg_illuminatusit was the third day he was using linux09:32
rysieksamoura: I don't have any experience in setting-up irc bots :/09:33
samouraokei thanks09:33
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w4eg_illuminatusis anyone here who knows how to install DRI ?09:33
rysiekw4eg_illuminatus: how long dod it take him to destroy his system? :)09:33
w4eg_illuminatuswell... three days then09:33
rysiekcool: what d'ya need it for, anyway?09:34
w4eg_illuminatusbut what suprised me: the "chmod 777"-System did still boot09:34
rysiekcool: you can always sudo cp <source> <dest>09:34
coolthanks bro09:35
w4eg_illuminatusyes, but sudo sucks after some time...09:35
rysiek"To damage a Windows box, it's enought to work with it. To damage a Linux box, you have to work on it"09:35
coolbut in (permission)09:35
coolhow can i supply it09:35
coollike this ->  -rwcr-xr-r09:35
w4eg_illuminatusis there a reason to disable root-login by default in (k)ubuntu09:36
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rysiekno idea09:36
rysiekyou can aither use the XXX format - x's being digits from 0 to 709:36
coollike this-> sudo chmod xxx /usr09:37
rysiekor the long format: [ugoa] [+=-] [rwxs]  - for example: u=rwx09:37
rysiekdo a man chmod09:37
coolthanks bro!!!09:37
coolur great09:37
rysiekit's all wel;l documented there09:37
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rysiekgood thing I didn't tell him about -R flag... yet :)09:38
coolhow can i back to it's original setting09:42
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w4eg_illuminatusyou have to remmeber them09:44
w4eg_illuminatus"ctrl-z" won't do it09:44
w4eg_illuminatusyou have to do a chmod again09:44
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rysieksid: "make"?09:49
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samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p09:50
samourabash: ./psotnic: cannot execute binary file09:50
samourabut i am trying to excute source fail :S?09:50
sidin breezy, make does not work properly how do i make "make" work09:50
samouraon the dekstop09:51
robotgeeksid: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:53
rysieksamoura: does the file have permissions for being executed?09:53
samourahnmm jea :?09:53
samourai have all on the desktop09:54
rysiekand are you sure you are the user that is allowed to execute it? :)09:54
rysiekthat's not the point09:54
samourayess i am sure09:54
rysiekopen Konsole09:54
rysiekcd ~/Desktop09:54
rysiekls -l | grep psotnic09:55
rysiekand paste it here :)09:55
sidwow it worked, thank you robotgeek09:55
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robotgeeksid: sure, np09:55
samourait is a list09:55
samouradrwxr-xr-x  7 samoura samoura   4096 2006-02-21 10:54 psotnic-current09:55
rysiekdo you have a "psotnic" file on your desktop?09:56
samourayes it is psotnic-current09:56
rysiekthen you don't have that file - you have potnic-current :] 09:56
rysiekin Konslole try:09:57
rysiek./psotnic-current -p09:57
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samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic-current -p09:58
samourabash: ./psotnic-current: is a directory09:58
rysiekcd psotnic-current09:59
rysiek(how on earth did I miss that "d" :) )09:59
samourawhot ?09:59
rysiekdo you have any files you want to execute?09:59
samourajust all the fails in the psotnic-current10:00
rysiekI don't get something here10:00
rysiek<samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ ./psotnic -p10:00
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rysiekdo you have a file named "psotnic" on your desktop?10:01
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samourait is10:01
samouraremove it ?10:01
rysiekso you didn't give me the whole list, did you ;)10:01
rysiekls -l | grep psotnic10:01
rysiekthe whole list this time, please10:01
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current$ ls -l | grep psotnic10:02
samoura-rw-r--r--  1 samoura samoura     0 2005-04-29 17:52 class-psotnic.cpp10:02
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martinjh99Morning!  Trying to compile KOffice 1.5Beta and am looking for the imagemagick dev packages anyone know what they are called?  Can't find them on packages.ubuntu.com10:02
rysieksamoura: that's not all, is it :_10:02
samourayes it is now10:02
samourabefore was a full list10:03
robotgeekmartinjh99: apt-get buil-dep koffice1.5 (if that is the packagename), will get you all the dependencies :)10:03
rysiekpreviously I got only the directory name10:03
martinjh99RobotGeek - Ta!10:03
samourathere you have it in your private message10:04
rysieka, that's ok now ;)10:04
samourawhat than ?10:04
rysiekmaybe: file psotnic10:04
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current$ file psotnic10:05
samourapsotnic: ERROR: cannot open `psotnic' (No such file or directory)10:05
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rysiekcd ..; file psotnic10:05
rysiek(wrong dir - forgot we're in psotnic-current)10:05
samourasamoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic-current$  cd ..; file psotnic10:05
samourapsotnic: gzip compressed data, was "psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static.tar", from Unix, max compression10:05
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rysiekhow exactly did you get this file?10:06
samourathere is a fail in the desktop psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static.tar10:06
rysiekyes, I see10:06
rysiekI am talking about the file "psotnic"10:07
[Vampis] ellu10:07
samouravampis is this noteventime ?10:07
rysieksamoura: join #rysiek-samoura10:07
[Vampis] I'm I the only one that have problems with Ktorrent in kde 3.5.0 ? It locks itself all the time, and I have to kill the process the get it upp and running again, and then it locks itself again :P10:08
[Vampis] samoura: excuse me ?10:08
[Vampis] ehum , ok10:08
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robotgeek[Vampis] : can you try upgrading to kde 3.5.1, i have no such issues with ktorrent10:09
[Vampis] robotgeek: I have deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main in sources.list and 3.5.0 is all i get10:10
robotgeek[Vampis] : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php10:11
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[Vampis] ahaaa10:12
[Vampis] thanks m8 :)10:13
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[Vampis] *running dist-upgrade*10:13
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[Vampis] robotgeek: do you think it's enough to restart X or should i reboot the whole computer ?10:15
robotgeek[Vampis] : restart X is enough10:18
[Vampis] :)10:18
[Vampis] Errors were encountered while processing:10:18
[Vampis] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdesdk-kio-plugins_4%3a3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb10:18
[Vampis] damn10:18
jpatrickapt-get install -f10:18
[Vampis] install -f is the shit10:18
[Vampis] jpatrick: way ahead :)10:19
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[Vampis] *restarting X10:20
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[Vampis] robotgeek: The kmail package was held back and now I cant run it :(10:22
robotgeek[Vampis] : try dist-upgrading again?10:22
[Vampis] yep10:22
[Vampis] The following packages have been kept back:10:22
[Vampis]   kmail10:22
[Vampis] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.10:22
[Vampis] trying to installing it manually10:23
robotgeek[Vampis] : hmm, weird10:23
[Vampis] aah, now its working10:23
[Vampis] :D10:23
[Vampis] *trying ktorrent*10:23
[Vampis] robotgeek: seems to work10:30
[Vampis] thanks a bunch10:30
robotgeek[Vampis] : cool, upgrading mostly works, lol10:30
[Vampis] and there it hanged itself10:33
[Vampis] damn!10:33
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[Vampis] And now the torrent server thinks I'm downloading it twice10:34
robotgeek[Vampis] : file a bug, please :)10:34
[Vampis] kde.org ?10:35
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jpatrick[Vampis] : fixed in dapper10:41
SirKillalothow do I find out which program calls a dcop function all the time?10:41
SirKillalotit is fucking my system10:41
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ubotucoc is probably the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/10:41
robotgeekSirKillalot: ^^10:42
robotgeekSirKillalot: probably amarok10:42
SirKillalotwhy should amarok call dcop to change its OWN labels? :=)10:42
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[Vampis] jpatrick: is it ?10:43
jpatrick[Vampis] : yes.10:43
SirKillalotand no, its still being called when stopping amaroK10:43
[Vampis] jpatrick: nice, just have to w8 to april then :)10:43
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ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek10:58
ubotuDid you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek10:58
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[Vampis] hm, when I try to clear downloaded torrents in Ktorrent it warns me that It will remove the downloaded files to, how do I remove It without removing the downloaded files ?11:06
SirKillalotI think I'll die... everytime I try to look at the "properties" or "share" of a directory using konqueror it crashes11:08
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[Vampis] I have had problem with konqeror chrasing since i dont know when11:10
rysiekjpatrick: sorry, was busy googlin'n'wikipedin' for it ;)11:10
rysiekbut thanks :)11:10
hummillionany body know what could cause my laptop to occassionaly not automatically turn off when shutting down11:11
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rysiekgotta go guys11:12
rysiekcu all some time later :)11:12
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visik7hummillion: got same problem11:13
visik7hummillion: I use ctr+alt+stamp+ins+o11:13
visik7and than got shutdown11:13
hummillionwhat does "ctr+alt+stamp+ins+o" do? and what does the stamp stand for?11:14
hummillionstamping the ground?11:15
robotgeekany one running dapper here?11:15
pulvervisik7: is that a keybinding? looks kinda long11:15
visik7pulver: yes right into the kernel11:15
visik7hummillion: stamp->print11:15
visik7so called sysrq11:16
hummillionso what does that do special that the normal shut down procedure doesn'y?11:16
visik7hummillion: they just poweroff the machine11:16
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hummillionwell thats got to be better for it than just holding down the power button till it turns off.11:18
hummilliondo you by any chance know hao to get hibernate to recover as well?11:19
visik7hibernate works whell for me (on a ubuntu machine)11:19
visik7but there is no hibernate button in logout dialog of kde11:20
visik7so never tried11:20
hummillionyea, i'm using kubuntu11:20
hummillionand things like hibernate, suspend and standby are provided by the power managment software11:20
hummillioncalled KLaptop (original name)11:21
visik7I've a klaptopdaemon installed but no klaptop applet in the applet list11:23
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hummillionyea, i have that installed two, and the applet for the task bar11:26
hummillionbut the screen in it does say its all experimental, so can't expect too mcuh11:27
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ubotuVas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais11:34
robotgeekPastis: :)11:35
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Pastisthx ^11:36
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hibatsuhow can I setup konqueror to open zip files in konqueror itself instead of opening ark?11:45
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TurKisH_BoYhow are you11:58
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TurKisH_BoYwhy ?12:02
ejofeeis the linux kernel better than kde?12:02
ejofee(that is a silly question, just starting a debate)12:02
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hibatsuhow can I setup konqueror to open zip files in konqueror itself instead of opening ark?12:03
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hibatsuand how can I install rar und unrar in dapper?12:03
ejofeehibatsu: isn't it the same as in breezy?!12:03
ubijtsa2ejofee: comparing the kernel with KDE? that's like asking if an elephant is a better car than a sofa12:07
hibatsunah, the packages don't exist12:07
hibatsuand do you know how to setup konqueror to open zip files in konqueror itself instead of opening ark?12:08
ejofeeubijtsa2: i am just wondering (and amazed) why we call ubuntu "ubuntu linux" instead of "ubuntu kde" or "ubuntu gnome". i think the kernel is unessential for most people. i myself almost never used linux. i mostly use kde.12:10
ejofeelinux can't even edit a text file12:10
ejofeemore than this, i never watched movies on linux12:10
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ejofeeeven trying to listen to web radio on linux would sound stupid for most of us.12:11
ubijtsa2ubuntu = ubuntu with gnome, kubuntu = ubuntu with kde (as the default)12:11
ejofeeyes, but why adding "linux" after "ubuntu"?12:11
ejofeewhy not "ubuntu x11"12:11
ubijtsa2ejofee: in case someone produces ubuntu with the Hurd ?12:11
ejofeewhy should i find the kernel mentioned all the time12:11
hibatsuwithout the kernel nothing works12:12
hibatsux11 without the kernel is a heap of shit12:12
ejofeehibatsu: linux without x11 is a heap of shit too12:12
hibatsuwell sure12:12
ubijtsa2ejofee: you probably find that most people in here refers to ubuntu or kubuntu.. we all know that the kernel is Linux12:12
ejofeehibatsu: i don't think something is more essential just because it's lower level12:12
hibatsubut without the kernel it wouldn't even boot12:13
pulverejofee: negative you can watch those movies in frame buffer console and stuff12:13
ejofeehibatsu: then we have the processor wich is even lower level12:13
hibatsuthere would be no hardware support12:13
hibatsubut the processor has nothing to do with the operating system12:13
ubijtsa2for people that don't know Ubuntu, mentioning that it is Linux means they know *what* it is, sort of anyway12:13
ejofeepulver: who watches movies in the frame buffer console and how specific is the buffer console to the kernel itself?12:13
ubijtsa2ejofee: if you use SDL, libsvga or Qtopia, you don't use X11 at all12:14
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Tonio_very interesting debate............. although I think it is not that that will make ubuntu better anyway.....12:14
ubijtsa2anyway, arguing about why Linux is even mentioned is something for the -advocacy channel..12:15
Tonio_and why ubuntu and not kawaspu ???12:15
Tonio_or chloubiswip ?12:15
hibatsubecause ubuntu12:15
hibatsumeans humanity12:15
hibatsuin bemba12:16
hibatsuI thnk12:16
pulverejofee:  i do :) check out http://geexbox.org/  , well fb must be supported in the kernel etc...12:16
Tonio_hibatsu: I know that, I was just thinking that a debate on "why adding linux"12:16
Tonio_1/ is not of any use12:16
Tonio_2/ will not change anything12:16
Tonio_3/ has no response :)12:16
hibatsuit would rather help12:16
jeantu pu12:16
hibatsuto tell me12:16
hibatsuhow can I setup konqueror to open zip files in konqueror itself instead of opening ark?12:16
Tonio_it is "Ubuntu GNU/Linux" because it is it's name, as my one is Anthony, basta !12:17
jeanje parle francais12:17
ubotuVas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais12:17
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Tonio_hibatsu: on dapper ?12:20
Tonio_yes, I changed that :)12:21
Tonio_well, it is set with the package kubuntu-default-settings12:21
Tonio_to make all compressed files managed the same way12:21
hibatsuso a dpkg-reconfigure will do?12:21
Tonio_if you want to change this, let me check how to do it with your profile12:21
Tonio_hibatsu: nope, let me check12:21
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hibatsutell me what info you need12:22
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Tonio_hibatsu:  cp /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-zip.desktop ~/.kde/share/mimelnk12:24
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Tonio_that will take the original definition of the zip protocol and should overwrite the kubuntu default settings12:25
Tonio_there are three levels for the configuration, the profile first, then kubuntu-default-settings, then /usr/share12:27
Tonio_so supposedly it will work, can you confirm ?12:27
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hibatsu_found anything?12:29
Tonio_hibatsu yes12:29
Tonio_can't  you see my previous posts ?12:29
Tonio_cp /usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-zip.desktop ~/.kde/share/mimelnk12:29
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rysiek|plidentify indywidualista212:42
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hibatsu_that's all?12:44
rysiek|plhi all12:44
rysiek|planybody has an idea how to tell KDE *not to* automagically open the inserted cd's/plugged in mem devices in Konqueror?12:45
rysiek|plit's quite annoying, really :)12:45
hibatsu_I think you can set it in the system settings12:45
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hibatsu_actually it isn't automatic12:45
rysiek|plyeah. where? :)12:45
hibatsu_it must be storage devices or something like that12:46
hibatsu_I've only got it in german right now12:46
hibatsu_in the hardware section12:46
hibatsu_of the kde system settings12:46
hibatsu_or which version are you using?12:46
hibatsu_breezy? dapper?12:46
kokurya-kaiisn't it eable medium application autostart after mount?12:47
kokurya-kaienable ^^12:47
rysiek|plkokurya-kai: ?12:47
kokurya-kaisystem settings - storage media - advanced12:48
kokurya-kaibut i'm not sure, because i'm not @ my machine yet12:48
hibatsu_there you can switch it off12:48
rysiek|plno such thing as "storage media" in System Settings12:48
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hibatsu_so what is there in the hardware category?12:49
kokurya-kaijup definitly strange12:49
hibatsu_should be the one most right12:49
rysiek|plmost right in Hardware?12:50
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rysiek|plgimme a sec12:50
servjewhi... so wheres that file i can edit so that samba will join my windows network, and where i can specify static IP adress for the network card ?12:50
rysiek|plhibatsu_: here's what I have in Hardware (translating from Polish): Keyboard, Mouse, Joystick, Printers, Display, Laptops & Power, Digital Camera, Pilots12:51
kokurya-kaihm strange but i should be there?! maybe in poland u are not allowed to have storage media ;)12:52
hibatsu_or this part was only introduced in dapper...12:53
rysiek|plany other ideas?12:53
kokurya-kaino its in breezy too12:53
kokurya-kaibecause it is at my homecomputer12:53
hibatsu_really strange12:54
rysiek|plI'm trying to hack my mp3player (format the memory so that it actually *uses* it;) ) but I need to plug it in and out every 5 mins12:54
rysiek|pland Konquerror poppin-up everytime is not the best thing I need ;)12:54
kokurya-kaiyeah that sucks a little bit ^^12:54
rysiek|pltell me about it :)12:55
rysiek|plbesides - although there might be no GUI tool, there must be some config file somewhere on the system12:55
rysiek|pl(I really prefer editing the files by myself - at least I know what's going on)12:56
kokurya-kaiu have kde 3.5 or?12:56
kokurya-kaia k thats the problem....12:56
rysiek|plit's my "production environment", therefore I was reluctant with installing the new KDE ;)12:57
kokurya-kaii think in 3.5 its standart12:57
rysiek|plnevertheless, there still is, somewhere on the system, a file that contains a magic line that fires konqueror12:58
kokurya-kaimay be u can install the plug in manually its named "storage media 0.6"12:58
rysiek|pltrying :)12:58
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kokurya-kaiso time for something to eat cu l8er12:58
rysiek|plcu, thx :)12:58
rysiek|plnope, haven't got it in repo's, I'm afraid :/ anybody else?12:59
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hibatsu_try kde-apps.org01:02
rysiek|plheh. the point is: I don't want to install a GUI, I would just like to knwo, which file which line is it :)01:03
rysiek|plthat would be the ideal solution01:03
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hibatsu_sorry, haven't got the slightest idea01:03
rysiek|plI'l have to live with that untill I install KDE3.5, then :)01:05
rysiek|plok, thanks guys01:09
rysiek|plcu all01:09
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callahanohow effective anti-keyloggers actually are?01:10
Riddellcallahano: not as effective as just installing a secure operating system like kubuntu01:13
callahanoRiddell: what do you mean? afaik, kubuntu is not meant to be secure, but user-friendly.01:15
callahanoRiddell: the two purposes are mutually exclusive these days.01:15
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ubuntusomeone knows why the new live cd of kubuntu ) the one woth kde 3.5.1 and Koffice 1.5 beta is not on englsh?01:31
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poimensomeone knows why the new live cd of kubuntu ) the one woth kde 3.5.1 and Koffice 1.5 beta is not on englsh?01:32
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stendonhello erverybody!01:46
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Hobbseehey SirKillalot01:59
Ardarandirund wech.... besuch...01:59
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ronaldson40how do i enable JETDIRECT PRINTING IN KUBUNTU02:41
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ronaldson40this is urgent02:41
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admrlronaldson40 you using hplip..?02:47
admrlalot of settings and such can be configured using hplip ive never heard of jet direct printing but it just might work02:47
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ronaldson40wat is hplip02:50
ronaldson40admrl r u there02:51
admrlit has all the settings for printing and such02:51
admrlits really useful02:51
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ronaldson40how do i download it02:54
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ronaldson40is hplip a software02:55
admrlsorry ive been reading02:56
admrlsudo apt-get install hplip02:56
admrlin the command line02:56
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ronaldson40after i do this, where can i access it from02:57
ronaldson40the Settings page??02:57
admrlkmenu>run command>hplip02:57
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admrlthen you need to ad your user name to the lp admin group02:58
admrli need to read up on what its called02:58
ubotuflood is, like, totally, for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.02:58
ronaldson40wat is my default username and password02:59
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ronaldson40its asking me a password02:59
admrlronaldson40 you need to add your user to the admin group02:59
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ronaldson40i am using root as the user03:00
ronaldson40I am logged in as root03:00
admrlronaldson40 sure but your not printer admin03:01
admrlor it would work03:01
ronaldson40so how do i do it03:01
admrlthere is a groups list in /etc/03:01
admrli dont remember what its called i think its groups tho03:01
admrlwhen you find that grep it for lp03:02
admrland tell me what you get03:02
admrlcat /etc/groups | grep lp03:02
admrldo you get anything03:03
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ronaldson40root@toshiba:~# cat /etc/groups | grep lp03:03
ronaldson40cat: /etc/groups: No such file or directory03:03
ronaldson40I am getting this03:03
admrli dont know what the groups file is in etc03:04
admrljpatrick do you know..?03:04
admrli need to be on my computer :(03:04
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jpatrickcat /etc/group | grep lp03:05
admrlits just group :D03:05
SiriusAhey, i think my transluency doesnt work correct. often active windows are transparent, but i regarding to my config, they shouldnt...03:05
ronaldson40jpatrick where do i enter this03:06
ronaldson40in the terminal..03:06
ronaldson40or in the run command03:06
admrlthe terminal03:06
ronaldson40root@toshiba:~# cat /etc/group | grep lp03:06
ronaldson40i am getting this03:06
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admrlya add your user after lpadmin:x:104:username03:07
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admrland lp:x:7:cupsys, username03:07
admrllike that03:07
ronaldson40so which file should i open for this03:07
admrlsudo kate /etc/group03:08
admrljust like that03:08
admrlin the terminal03:08
admrlthat will open the file03:08
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ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)03:09
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ronaldson40this is my first few lines03:09
admrlya ronaldson you need to find those lines03:09
ronaldson40so instead of lp:x:7:cupsys I need to change it to03:10
admrlyou just add a comma after cupsys and put your user name after it03:10
ronaldson40will it ask for a passwordd03:11
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admrlsame thing with lpadmin03:11
ronaldson40when i click adminstration03:11
admrlronaldson40 use your user name and password03:11
admrlthe one that you added in03:11
ronaldson40this is correct rite03:12
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ronaldson40put a comma and then root for lpadmin03:12
vega-why root?03:13
admrlvega- i think hes using root03:14
admrlas a username03:14
admrlfor lpadmin you just need to type root after the :03:15
admrljust like that03:15
ubotuwell, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only03:15
admrlwell i hope i helped him03:16
admrli dont understand why hplip isnt added by default03:16
admrlits an amazing program03:17
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kujegerI'm having an odd problem, when I lock the screen none of my passwords let me unlock it. Where do I reset/change it?03:18
vega-on the command line, type passwd. But there's probably also some nice gui for it, dunno03:19
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kujegervega: thanks, that fixed it03:23
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visik7where is the klaptop applet ? I can't find it03:30
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ronaldson40when i click the Users and Groups in the System Settings03:46
ronaldson40I getting this message " The module Users & Gropus could not be loaded"03:47
admrlronaldson40 did you get hplip working..?03:47
ronaldson40Its still asking me for password03:47
ronaldson40i enter <username> as root03:47
ronaldson40and password03:47
admrldid you put user and your root password03:47
admrlyour root password..?03:47
ronaldson40where i do that03:47
ronaldson40in etc/groups itself03:47
admrli dont know what that screen looks like03:48
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admrlif i was on my omputer i could help you alot more03:48
ronaldson40can i paste images on this server03:48
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ronaldson40However i am getting this error when i click the Users and groups option03:50
ronaldson40do i need to reinstall Kunbuntu for this03:50
ronaldson40or removing it and reinstall a package in Adept would do...03:50
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admrli have no clue03:54
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ToyMan2hmm.  what's the full address for the breezy-update repository?03:58
ToyMan2is ubuntu breezy-update separate from kubuntu breezy-update?03:58
admrlToyMan2 do you mean backports04:01
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ToyMan2no.. looking at the channel topic04:01
ToyMan2"Breezy fixes in breezy-updates"04:02
ToyMan2just trying to make sure I have the correct repositories included04:02
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visik7Tonio_: no04:03
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Tonio_hi visik704:06
arrinmurrToyMan2: kubuntu is part of ubuntu, so they share the same repositories04:06
visik7kubuntu ubuntu edubuntu xubuntu are the same distro with different installers04:06
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ToyMan2k, thanks arrinmurr04:07
kakeihi i downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/dapper-live-i386.iso but i dont have CD's already but i have Dvd's if i burn it on a DVD it will work?04:09
kakeivisik7, 100% sure?04:10
kakeivisik7, why so sure?04:13
visik7what kind of question is it ?04:13
kakeidunno maybe u try it  dunno just to know04:13
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visik7how can I add event using hal/udev/hotplug/don'tknow ?04:31
visik7how can I script events using hal/udev/hotplug/don'tknow ?04:31
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DrCurlIf I understand the topic correctly, if I install kubuntu today, I will get  Amarok 1.4 beta 1, KDE 3.5.1 and KOffice 1.504:38
RoC_MMspeaking of kubuntu04:38
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RoC_MMwhy does Samba ask me for a username and passsword when connecting to a samba share.  The user account on the Windows computer has "no" password.04:39
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RoC_MMSounds right DrCurl04:41
admrlDrCurl: no amarok 1.4 beta was just released04:41
DrCurlwow, talk about up to date distro!04:41
RoC_MMyou bet04:41
admrlwith a kubuntu package04:41
visik7apt-cache unmet |wc -l04:41
visik7is this normal ?04:41
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: congrats to robotgeek and Hobbsee on membership | Amarok 1.4 beta 1, KDE 3.5.1, KOffice 1.5 beta out (kword now fixed) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat
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noteventime(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (module does not exist, 0), shouldnt this give very BAD performance in OpenGL apps?04:47
noteventimeOr not even let them run?04:47
RoC_MMhmmm... morrow I get between 300 and 500 results for that query04:47
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime04:47
RoC_MMwhat exactly does this query give back?  what is it counting?04:47
nskhow to login as root in kubuntu terminal ?04:48
RoC_MMsudo su04:48
visik7nsk: sudo -i04:48
noteventimeor simply sudo if its only one command :)04:49
ubotuit has been said that su is see !sudo04:49
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.04:49
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joelI think I am not the joel who you think04:55
guemai44fock u04:55
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guemai44don't u show her04:56
ubotuit has been said that coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/04:56
ozgeki60stop be like that04:56
guemai44or i'll fock u04:56
dikatlonAre you talking to me?04:56
guemai44 i 'm serious04:56
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ozgeki60i di talk to04:56
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dikatlonOkey, my username is Joel but my nick is dikatlon04:57
robotgeekguemai44: please behave yourself04:57
dikatlonso if I have someone angry cause one other using that username - I am sry04:57
robotgeekdikatlon: not your problem04:57
dikatlonrobotgeek: Ok04:57
noteventimeAnyone here tried xorg-air?04:58
ubotufrom memory, member is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/community/processes/newmember04:59
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jpatrickbeen there done that^04:59
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robotgeekjpatrick: oh05:00
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jpatrickrobotgeek: i was talking about the link05:00
guemai44stop niw ekin05:00
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robotgeekozgeki60: please stop spamming, really05:03
acolai35hey weh the go an?05:03
ozgeki60i got a question05:03
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ozgeki60one quesiton05:03
robotgeekozgeki60: ask away05:03
ozgeki60how do i do a private chat05:03
noteventimeClickon the nick05:04
ozgeki60with someone05:04
ozgeki60it says05:04
noteventimeJust double click on a nick :)05:04
ozgeki60prviate messagae05:04
robotgeekozgeki60: you need to be registered, i think05:04
ozgeki60from unregisteredusers05:04
uboturumour has it, register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))05:04
noteventimeAhh, you need to register05:04
ozgeki60how do i do that/05:05
ozgeki60any clue?05:05
noteventimeSee the message05:05
ozgeki60going for break05:05
guemai44don't ask me05:05
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noteventimeHow do i create deb files for the repositories and check that they are "secure"?05:06
noteventimeLike, KTechLab if I would want to compile KTechLab and would like to make a deb file, what do I do to check that "enyone" can use the file?05:08
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noteventimeanyone, hmm The spelling and grammar in my last sentence was wierd :P05:08
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blackflaghello all05:09
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blackflagdoes someone has an idea how I can use kdeprintfax within openoffice2 ?05:09
blackflagI tried spadmin05:09
blackflagbut this dont work with kdeprindfax05:10
admrlit would be more likely integrated into koffice wouldnt it05:10
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angasulehey, what's with the two 'eric' packages? they have different minor versions but seem to be the same package (in the same repo)05:12
richard2How do I play mpeg file?05:12
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blackflagkoffice , cool :) this works!05:13
ubotuangasule: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:14
blackflagBut why is there no way in OO2 ?05:14
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ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime05:16
ubotuangasule: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:16
noteventimerichard2: Do you know if you use xine or gstreamer?05:16
ubotuangasule: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:16
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:17
noteventimeTake a look here   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------^05:17
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blackflagCan someone tell me how I can set in kdeprintfax a passwort so I can use my hylafaxserver?05:19
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noteventimeHow do you mean?05:20
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noteventimeAnd what is the problem?05:21
blackflagI have hylafaxserver running and set a user with password05:21
blackflagin kdeprintfax I can set a user for connecting to hylafax05:21
blackflagbut I can not find a way to tell kdeprintfax to use a password too05:22
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noteventimeI'm sorry but I've used nither of these these applicantions :(05:22
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linuxboyfriendhi all05:30
linuxboyfriendI have installed gcc-3.4 (instead of latest one i.e gcc-4, cuse of my modem problems) and everytime when I try to configure any package manually, I have to give extra option of CC=gcc-3.4, how can I permanently set this option so ./configure script pick it automatically?05:32
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linuxboyfriendcan anyone help me about that?05:35
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noteventimeI'm not sure if that is possible because the configure file is created by the author of the software, or rather the build system.05:37
noteventimeozgeki60: 'ello05:37
ozgeki60how do i regsiter?05:37
ozgeki60pls help me05:37
ubotu[register]  type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))05:37
ozgeki60i coudnt find out05:37
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noteventime /msg NickServ register PASSWORD05:37
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noteventimeChange PASSWORD to whatever password you want05:38
ozgeki60sorry to bother05:38
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noteventimeThats why we are here :)05:38
ozgeki60how do i change ti?05:38
noteventimeYou password?05:39
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: hmm, does it mean that I have to give this option everytime I wanna configure something?05:39
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reagleBRKLNartsdsp doesn't seem to work anymore with 3.5.1, always complains "artsdsp works only for binaries"05:39
ozgeki60yes my password05:39
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noteventimelinuxboyfriend: The problem is that configure isnt a "global" program, its a script file generated by the person who writes the code, not compleatly true but trie enough.05:40
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angasulewhat's with the two 'eric' packages? they have different minor versions but seem to be the same package (in the same repo), not sure which one to use05:41
noteventimeozgeki60: /msg nickserv set password NEWPASS i think05:41
reagleBRKLNwhere best to ask my arts question?05:42
noteventimeangsule: One minute, i'll take a looko05:42
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noteventimereagleBRKLN: There is nothing wrong with artsDSP05:42
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reagleBRKLNnoteventime: it's not working for me05:42
Tonio_Mez: ping ?05:43
noteventimereagleBRKLN: It's because you are trying to run a script through artsDSP05:43
reagleBRKLNno, running a binary as well and it still complains05:43
noteventimeAre you sure05:44
reagleBRKLNalso, for scripts, how would I use it then?05:44
noteventimeangsule: Do you mean eric and eric3?05:44
reagleBRKLNurd:/home/reagle> file -L /usr/lib/parallels/parallels-linux05:45
reagleBRKLN/usr/lib/parallels/parallels-linux: setuid setgid ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped05:45
reagleBRKLNurd:/home/reagle> artsdsp /usr/lib/parallels/parallels-linux05:45
reagleBRKLNartsdsp works only for binaries05:45
ozgeki60it worked05:45
ozgeki60the passworf05:45
noteventimereagleBRKLN: I've been asking that myself, I always add artsDSP to the config file, not very good practice though05:45
noteventimeozgeki60: Good :)05:45
angasulenoteventime: yes05:45
reagleBRKLNat first i thought i had to add it to wrapper script, then found even ELF bins are failing for whatever reason05:46
noteventimeangsule: I suppse the one with the higher version number :)05:46
angasulenoteventime: they seem to be the same, 'eric' has an url to the eric3 homepage, the descriptions match05:46
noteventimereagleBRKLN: Are you running dapper?05:46
angasulenoteventime: I was going for that one as well, I'm just a bit surprised to see it twice for no aparent reason05:46
noteventimeangsule: Yes, i saw that too, maybe eric3 and older eric's where devided into two packages earlyer05:47
noteventimeand now have merged into one, and the old eric3 is still there :)05:48
ozgeki60where u guys from?/05:48
ozgeki60ohh really05:48
ozgeki60i am at scholl right now05:48
ozgeki60i live in Belize05:48
ozgeki60Central America05:48
guemai44how is sweden?05:48
ozgeki60but i am actually from Turkey05:48
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ozgeki60guemai44 is my gf05:49
noteventimeguemai: what do you want me to answer to that :P05:49
angasuleargentina here05:49
angasulejag talar inte svenska :/05:49
guemai44just asking05:49
ozgeki60naber lan kemo?05:49
noteventimetomas_: guemai vill veta hur det r att leva i sverige :)05:49
ozgeki60she is my girl05:49
ozgeki60what u said to her?:)05:50
guemai44i'm his wife05:50
ozgeki60nah we still go to college05:50
noteventime"guemai vill veta hur det r att leva i sverige :)" = "Guemai want's to know how it's to live in sweden"05:50
ozgeki60u speak spamish?05:51
noteventimeNot much05:51
tomas_hi everyone, is it possible to use a firewire device as a webcam in amsn?05:51
ozgeki60hablas espanol?05:51
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: also configure script is giving error that "can not find X includes", how can i tell it about the path of X?05:51
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ozgeki60neither do i05:51
angasuleyo si :P05:51
ozgeki60but guemai does05:51
tomas_hello noteventime :)05:51
noteventimetomas_: 'ello05:51
tomas_noteventime: do you know if amsn supports firewire cameras?05:51
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Do you have the X includes?05:51
tomas_noteventime: i have got my sony handycam working in kino and i would be so happy if it worked as a webcam05:52
noteventimetomas_: I would say thats more up to the OS than to the msn client05:52
noteventimetomas_: Have you tried in kopete?05:52
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: atleast I have installed X05:52
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: can you guide me about X includes?05:52
tomas_noteventime: does it have webcam support now? my "normal" webcam works in amsn05:52
noteventimetomas_: The X includes aren't installed y the same package as X05:53
guemai44huw old r u05:53
noteventimetomas_: yes, go to configure kopete05:53
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: that me, not tomas:)05:53
noteventimeoh, sorry05:53
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: how can I find about X includes :)05:53
tomas_noteventime: off course, i abandoned kopete when the file transfer bug came :p05:54
noteventimeOne minute i will find the packages name05:54
noteventimetomas_: Hehe, ok05:54
tid-waveis kde-systemsettings kubuntu-exclusive ? or is it part of KDE ?05:54
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: xserver-xorg-dev05:54
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: give me 1 min to check it05:55
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: libx11-dev05:55
tomas_noteventime: nope, it cant find my handycam05:55
tomas_noteventime: i guess that firewire devices aren't a priority05:55
noteventimetomas_: Does linux see it as a handycam?05:55
noteventimetomas_: * with webcam capabilyties05:56
noteventimeops, very wrong spelling here05:56
tomas_noteventime: i can see it working in kino so its def. working05:56
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: xserver-xorg-dev says command not found!05:56
ozgeki60are you able to webcam on this?05:56
uboturumour has it, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.05:56
jpatrickit's in Kopete05:56
noteventimeozgeki60: Linux or IRC?05:57
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev05:57
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev05:57
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: now how can i install x includes?05:57
tomas_there are webcam support in both amsn and kopete, the problem is just that it doesnt find my firewire webcam05:57
ozgeki60i am new to this program05:57
tomas_i guess it will take time05:57
ozgeki60but its really cool05:57
ozgeki60it seems05:57
tomas_but im satisfied of being able to transfer movies to my computer from my camera :D05:58
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok, plz give some time :)05:58
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: You have all the time in the world :)05:58
noteventimetomas_: I think you need to install it a a webcam05:58
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: apt is saying that xserver-xorg-dev is not found05:59
noteventimetomas_: read the guide05:59
morrowis there any plan to add groupchat functions to kopete-jabber? :)05:59
ozgeki60any body know about Ultima Online?05:59
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Try sudo apt-get install libx11-dev05:59
noteventimeozgeki60: yes, a bit05:59
ozgeki60u play?05:59
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok sir ;005:59
tomas_noteventime: what are you talking about =?05:59
ozgeki60its a game05:59
tomas_noteventime: usb webcams is DETECTED AUTOMATICALLY05:59
tomas_noteventime: my firewire isn't06:00
tomas_i will do some googling06:00
tomas_but thanks anyway06:00
noteventimeThats too bad :(06:00
ozgeki60anyways gotta go06:00
ozgeki60class is over06:00
ozgeki60i am going06:00
ozgeki60cya  guys06:00
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok it will download in 5 minutes, i will comeback after 5 mins if error still persists, by the way thanks a lot buddy ;)06:00
noteventimeHope it works :)06:01
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blackflagCan someone tell me how I tell kdeprintfax to use user and password for hylafax?06:03
blackflagI googled around but can not find any information06:03
blackflagIm wondering that I can set on hylafaxserver user and password06:04
blackflagbut not at client site06:04
blackflagI can only set a user without a password06:04
blackflagthere must be a way that I can authicate at the hylafaxserver06:04
blackflagHow can I set this in kdeprintfax?06:05
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blackflagcan someone help?06:05
noteventimeMaybe there is a config file in /etc?06:05
blackflagfor kdeprintfax?06:06
noteventimeOr maybe in ~/.kdeprintfax06:06
noteventimeAnything there?06:07
blackflagno nothing to find06:08
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noteventimeWell, could have worked :)06:08
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reagleBRKLNweird, why would artsdsp be throwing a binary error when it IS an ELF binary? see
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linuxboyfriendhi all06:09
blackflagI tried in kdeprintfax user:password06:09
blackflagbut this also dont work06:09
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: no, still the X Includes error is coming06:09
blackflagIm going crazy here06:09
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Hmm....06:10
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: do you have any idea?06:11
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: and you cant find xserver-xorg-dev?06:11
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reagleBRKLNhrmm.. in the bash artsdsp, how to negate the "case in"06:12
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: check this:06:12
linuxboyfriendsudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev06:12
linuxboyfriendReading package lists... Done06:12
linuxboyfriendBuilding dependency tree... Done06:12
linuxboyfriendE: Couldn't find package xserver-xorg-dev06:12
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linuxboyfriendnoteventime: should I apt-get update?06:13
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linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok :) give me 2 mins :)06:13
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Np, the problem might be that I'm using xorg706:14
noteventimeyou are probably using 6.8, in case your not using dapper.06:14
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: yes its 6.806:15
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: no, after apt-get update, still its not finding it :(06:16
noteventimeOk, the package might have another name06:16
noteventimein 6.806:16
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noteventimesudo apt-cache search xorg-dev06:16
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linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok lemme c06:17
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: no result06:17
noteventimeI'l take a look at the ubuntu repo homepage06:17
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jpatrick!info xorg-dev06:18
Dasnipa`you dont have to run apt-cache thru sudo btw06:18
KaoticEvilanyone installed gnome on kubuntu?06:18
Dasnipa`thats what ubuntu is for06:19
KaoticEvili know that...06:19
KaoticEvilbut ive got kubuntu installed and running...06:19
KaoticEviland i dont want to mess it all up to install ubuntu06:19
KaoticEvili like kde, but i wanna try gnome out too.. havent used it in forever, and i wanna see how different recent versions are06:19
Dasnipa`right so its just a matter of getting the package which i believe there is for gnome let me look06:19
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KaoticEvilits ubuntu-desktop ;)06:20
ubotunoteventime: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:20
MeTa[OFF] what is the name of the kde's on screen keyboard?06:20
Dasnipa`convieniently enough... i was hoping they would stick to that same convention for the gnome but i couldnt be sure06:20
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: so, I think there is not solution for me :(06:20
KaoticEvilDasnipa`: ive got the package name ;)06:20
Dasnipa`yeah i know i read06:21
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: There is06:21
KaoticEvili just wanted to know if anyone else had done it...06:21
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: I just don't know the name of the package because i use dapper drak06:21
KaoticEviland how easy/difficult it is to switch back and forth between the 206:21
noteventimeKaoticEvil:  I have both gnome and kde installed06:21
Dasnipa`you just logout and choose which you want to boot to on the login splash06:22
noteventimeKaoticEvil: Just choose KDM as your display manager and all will stay the same06:22
KaoticEvilah, cool06:22
MetaMorfoziSwhat is the name of the kde's on screen keyboard?06:22
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: can you tell what search string should I use at google to get answer about it?06:22
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: I'm searching :)06:22
KaoticEvillinuxboyfriend: are you looking for a specific package?06:22
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: thanks a lot06:22
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: apt-cache search Xorg dasnipa (Thanks for the info)06:23
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: while configuring packages (manually) it gives error about X Includes06:23
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: lemme check06:23
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: no result :(06:23
noteventimeapt-cache search Xorg06:23
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noteventimenot dasnippa, that was supposed to be inside the paranthesises06:24
KaoticEvilnoteventime: hows dapper running so far?06:24
noteventimeKaoticEvil: Very stable for me06:24
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KaoticEvilvery cool... im looking forward to upgrading :)06:25
noteventimeDo so :)06:25
KaoticEvili assume it comes with kde 3.5?06:25
noteventimeKaoticEvil: 3.5.106:25
KaoticEvilsame difference :P06:25
noteventimeTo be exact :)06:25
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: apt-cache search Xorg gave a lot of results06:25
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: I was afraid of that06:25
noteventimeapt-cache search Xorg | grep dev06:25
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noteventimetry that06:26
KaoticEvili was running RC1.. but had problems with my new wireless.. ill not go into it... suffice to say i put another OS on here06:26
KaoticEviland eventually started looking for a way to get it working.. found it, and i am happily back on breezy :D06:26
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: it also gave 50 to 60 results06:26
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: which specific package should i look?06:26
noteventimeKaoticEvil: Do you use an Intel card?06:26
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noteventimesomething that looks like xorg-dev06:27
KaoticEvilno, an Airnet card.. marvell chipset.. ndiswrapper works great... i wasnt aware that it came as a kernel module already however...06:27
KaoticEvilsome one told me that i would ahve to compile a new kernel... ive done it before, but i dont like doing it :P06:27
Dasnipa`you only like about 30 results if you apt-cache search xorg dev06:27
urbananyone experienced with dapper?06:28
noteventimeA bit06:28
urbangot some probs i'd need help with06:28
urbanfirst off, evdev doesn't work anymore06:28
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linuxboyfriendnoteventime: no, it gave many results starting with x11 but not xorg06:28
noteventimeok, try xorg06:28
linuxboyfriendDasnipa`: yes, I miscounted :) quickly06:28
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Can you pastebin it06:29
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)06:29
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok, you mean apt-cache search Xorg | grep xorg?06:30
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linuxboyfriendnoteventime: give me one min06:30
noteventimebut | grep dev06:30
noteventimeapt-cache search Xorg | grep dev06:30
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ronaldson40how do i allow root to login via KDE06:31
ronaldson40I mean at the log in scree06:31
KaoticEvilronaldson40: you dont06:31
noteventimeDo you gave root enabked?06:31
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: http://pastebin.com/57692506:31
KaoticEvilyou use sudo06:31
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:31
ronaldson40i have unlocked everythin ... only i need to know how to allow root to login06:32
ronaldson40at the KDE prompt for username and password06:32
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KaoticEvilall i had to do was switch to a different display and login as root...06:32
noteventimeronaldson40:In ksettings06:33
linuxboyfriendronaldson40: in "kdmrc" give "true" value to AllowRoot via kdm06:33
ronaldson40how do i go to ksettings06:33
ronaldson40tell how do i proceed in the GUI06:34
ronaldson40should i click system settings06:34
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noteventimefrom run06:34
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: now, do you have any idea?06:34
noteventimeI think you enable it in kcontrol->system->login manager06:34
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Are these really the packages you get from apt-cache search xorg dev?06:35
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: yes06:35
noteventime:S hmmm06:35
KaoticEvilnoteventime: is dapper available in the repos?06:35
KaoticEvilgot a link for me? :)06:36
KaoticEvili asked ubotu... didnt help06:36
noteventimeKaoticEvil, you can have my sources.list if you want06:36
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: wait i am giving you another pastebin link06:36
KaoticEvilthat would work :)06:36
KaoticEvilthanks :)06:36
noteventimeBut you get the swedish servers :S06:37
noteventimeWhere do you livev?06:37
noteventimecan you paste one of your servvers in /etc/apt/sources.list06:37
noteventimeone is enough06:38
noteventimeSo i know what upi change06:38
KaoticEvilsure can06:38
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linuxboyfriendnoteventime: http://pastebin.com/57693306:38
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: plz check this06:39
KaoticEvilnoteventime: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted06:39
noteventimetry to install this x11proto-core-dev06:40
noteventimeKaoticEvil, ok06:40
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok06:40
KaoticEvilfaster than pastebin'ing it :)06:40
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: are talking to me?06:40
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: it says it is already installed06:41
noteventimekaoticevil: 'ere you go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/954906:41
KaoticEvilnoteventime: thanks man :)06:41
noteventimelinuxboyfriend, then  lets find anotherone06:42
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok06:42
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linuxboyfriendnoteventime: :)06:42
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noteventimetomas_: You are using dapper right?06:43
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Hmm, this is very odd06:43
KaoticEvili can take the deb-src repos out, yeah/06:44
noteventimeKaoticEvil: I think so06:44
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: configure scripts says this: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"06:44
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KaoticEvilcould that be the X devel headers?06:45
tomas_noteventime: yes06:45
noteventimeI dont know the package name06:45
KaoticEvilfor breezy?06:45
KaoticEvilhang on, ill see if i can find something :006:45
tomas_noteventime: so, whats the question?06:45
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noteventimetomas_: linuxboyfriend has problems compiling programs using X06:46
tomas_the missing x libraries?06:46
noteventimetomas_: The configure script tells him the X development files are missing06:46
noteventimeyes, and i don't know the name of the package for breezy06:47
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75143.html06:47
tomas_i dont know sadly cause i have the same problem.06:47
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: i find this06:47
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KaoticEvillixuxboyfriend: tried xlibs-static-dev ?06:48
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: lemme chek06:48
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noteventimelinuxboyfriend: x-window-system-dev06:48
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Found it att the page06:48
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: try that06:48
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: and what about that KaoticEvil told me to install06:48
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KaoticEvili dont really know all that much.. just looking thru my search results, and trying to help...06:49
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noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Try thatone too, doesn't hurt06:49
noteventime_deus: 'ello06:49
_deusspak italian?06:49
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: ok give me some time :) lemme check both06:49
KaoticEvildont forget maybe libx11-dev06:50
noteventimetried that one06:50
KaoticEviloh, ok *bluch*06:50
KaoticEvilblush too06:50
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: apt is not finding it06:50
bhnaHow can i start kdm with Xephyr?06:50
KaoticEvillinuxboyfriend: thats odd...06:50
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: i mean libx11-dev06:50
KaoticEvilit shows up in atp-cache search xorg06:51
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: sometime I think that every odd problem occurs to me only :D06:51
KaoticEvillol linuxboyfriend06:52
KaoticEvilive felt the same way sometimes :)06:52
noteventimebhna: Link X to the xephyr binary06:52
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KaoticEvilbut whats Xephyr?06:53
noteventimeApperenaly an xserver06:53
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: so we are the travellers of same ship, "The Odd Ship" :D06:53
bhnaKaoticEvil: a replacment for xnest06:53
KaoticEvillol linuxboyfriend06:53
KaoticEvilbhna: ah, ok.. ty :)06:53
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bhnanoteventime: i need a new xsession in a new window on top off my desktop.06:54
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: in between, can you tell me that is there any MSN Messenger which can enable audio and video chat (in linux)?06:55
noteventime /etc/init.d/kdm  is the script/binary06:55
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: can I tell something funny!06:56
noteventimesure :)06:56
KaoticEvillinuxboyfriend: no clue whatsoever... i hate MSn messenger.. and never use audio/video in any messenger client :)06:56
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: kdm scripte does not exists in my /etc/init.d and i made a script manually and add in system startup :o06:56
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: ok, np06:57
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Lol, you my friend, DO have problems :D06:58
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noteventimebhna: Hmmm....06:59
noteventimeOk, I'll go ans war, bbl06:59
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tomas_there must be some technical guru here :/07:00
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: fist of all thanks for saying me your friend (I dont think you are linux :) as I am linuxboyfriend), x-window-system-dev is a big package, I will install it later and will tell you the results07:00
linuxboyfriendnoteventime_bbl: :D07:00
linuxboyfriendnoteventime_bbl: am I funny07:00
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tomas_where are those techical freaks when you need them :'(07:00
KaoticEvilnoteventime: how do i switch between gdm and kdm?07:01
linuxboyfriendnoteventime_bbl: I think you dont mind my joke!07:02
tomas_KaoticEvil: as which will be standard?07:02
KaoticEvilwell... not really..07:02
tomas_what do you want then?07:03
tomas_chose if you should login to gnome or kde?07:03
KaoticEvili want kdm to be my default, but i would like to be able to switch between them on-the-fly07:03
KaoticEviltomas_: yes, exactly that...07:03
tomas_hmm, running kde and gnome at the same time?07:03
KaoticEvilwell, not exactly...07:03
KaoticEvilchange the way i login07:03
tomas_when you login you can always chose if you should login to gnome or kde07:03
tomas_i guess i dont really know, sorry :/07:04
KaoticEvilwell, i know when kubuntu starts up, i can see it saying "starting kdm"07:04
KaoticEvilthen it drops me at the K login screen07:04
KaoticEvilwill i be able to select gnome from there?07:04
tomas_there is a drop down box07:04
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tomas_or something07:04
KaoticEvilok,, cool07:04
tomas_where you chose GNO;ME, KDE07:05
tomas_i dont see the login screen in front of me but its there07:05
KaoticEvilso then to go back to kde, just logout from gmd, and when im back at the login screen, schange it to kde?07:05
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KaoticEvilyeah, ive seen the box youre talking about...07:05
KaoticEvilso its that easy, eh?07:06
KaoticEvilcool :D07:06
tomas_i guess so07:06
KaoticEvilihope so :p07:06
tomas_if your question isnt the ultimate question ;)07:06
KaoticEvileh.. the answer to that is 42 ;)07:06
tomas_no not really07:06
tomas_i would say ps307:07
tomas_and certainly not xbox 36007:07
tomas_or microsoft07:07
KaoticEvilactually, i was referring to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything07:07
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tomas_i know07:07
tomas_so did i ;)07:07
KaoticEvilthought so07:07
KaoticEvillove those books...07:08
KaoticEvilthe new movie was not all that great really, tho07:08
tomas_yeah, they are hillairous07:08
tomas_but it was oaky07:08
tomas_it could have been worse07:08
KaoticEvil. o O ( the trick to flying is to throw yourself ay the ground and miss.... )07:08
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linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager for your default display manager07:09
KaoticEvillinuxboyfriend: ah, ok07:10
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linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: there also will be a script for kdm in /etc/init.d07:10
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: i think you also have to put it in your system startup07:11
KaoticEvilwell, ill see if i can just change it at the login screen ;)07:11
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: and have to remove gdm from system startup07:11
KaoticEviloy... thats a lot of work :P07:11
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: no lot of, it will take only 2 minutes :D07:12
KaoticEvilnot for me :P07:12
KaoticEvili dont even know where the syste startup stuff is :P07:12
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linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: /etc/init.d07:12
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: update-rc.d -f kdm defaults07:14
linuxboyfriendKaoticEvil: this will add kdm in system startup07:14
noteventime_bbl'ello, any problems slolved?07:14
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KaoticEvilmy g/f is killing me with girl scout cookies o.o07:16
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: i think now i will start download of x-window-system-dev07:16
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: otherwise you will be angry :D07:16
KaoticEvilnoteventime: as for having both kdm and gdm installed.. can i select the window manager i want at the kde login screen?07:16
KaoticEvilor is it more complicated than that?07:16
noteventimelinuxboytofriend: It's np, I just wanted to know if you solved the problem :)07:17
noteventimeKaooticEvil: Yes07:17
KaoticEvilto which? :P07:17
noteventimeKaooticEvil: I have both becuase i didn't know how to configure xgl for KDE, I know now though.07:17
noteventimeKaoticEvil: aha, mis read your question07:18
KaoticEvilbut i just select the window manager at the kde login screen before i login?07:18
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: now i have started download, it will take 1/2 hour, till then i am going on dinner, after 1/2 hour, if you aren't there, i will come tomorrow and we will share things07:18
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linuxboyfriendnoteventime: i hope you dont mind07:18
MitjaWhere is the default startup script?07:18
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Np :)07:18
linuxboyfriendnoteventime: till then bye :D and take care07:18
noteventimeKaoticEvil: KDE and gnome is not any prob, GDM and KDM are no problams habing both installed but you need to choose one07:19
KaoticEvilMitja: /etc/init.d i do belive07:19
noteventimelinuxboyfriend: Hope it works :D07:19
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MitjaKaoticEvil: yes, but that's a whole dir07:19
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KaoticEvilnoteventime: ok... ill have to work it out later... ive got to go to work...07:20
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noteventimeKaoticEvil: You get to choose Display manager when you install one07:20
KaoticEvilnoteventime: can i run that config util later to change it?07:20
noteventimeKaoticEvil: ?? When you install GDM or KDM you choose which one you want to use07:21
KaoticEvilnoteventime: ok07:21
KaoticEvilwell, in any event, ive got to go.. running a little late... bye all07:21
MitjaPerhaps I should refrain my question to "Which is the default startup script?"07:23
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dbakkerany1 on?07:25
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trappistMitja: there is no /etc/rc.local as there is on some distros.  but if you want to run something arbitrary at bootup, mkdir /etc/rc.boot and put scripts in there.07:26
Mitjatrappist: I just want to delete Totem as it runs every time I reboot07:27
dbakkerhas any1 gotten Xgl to work?07:27
trappistMitja: that's probably running at login rather than boot07:27
Mitjatrappist: where can I get rid of it then?07:27
trappistMitja: it's probably part of a saved session, or it could for some reason be in your ~/.kde/Autostart folder07:28
trappistcheck out the session manager in kcontrol07:28
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MitjaStart-up service and Load on demand services?07:29
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Mitjatrappist: ~/.kde/Autostart is empty07:31
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noteventimedbakker: I have07:36
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noteventimedbakker: I've gotten XGL to work07:36
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noteventimedbakker: I've gotten XGL to work07:39
dbakkerwith ati?07:39
noteventimeNo but with Intel biultin laptop07:39
dbakkeri wish i had that. ATI just doesnt work with Linux07:40
noteventimeHmm... What happens when you try to start?07:40
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dbakkerxgl starts, xterm loads, i can run xclock but when I start kde or gnome it hardlocks07:41
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dbakkerdoes X have to run for Xgl to work?07:43
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MitjaWhat is the comment symbol in KDE session file?07:53
noteventime:/, hmm probably # but i dont know07:53
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urbananyone can help me with sound in dapper?08:02
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douglasWhich packages do I need to get the file sharing gui in the system settings ungreyed out?08:03
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douglasgprof seems broken, I'm trying gprof -b appname and it says it can't find the file gmon.out, but I always thought it generated a gmon.out file?08:17
gleesondI wan't to install eclips for programming in java but I don't know what pkgs to add08:18
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ubotumethinks webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.08:20
ubotuskype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/08:20
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gleesond08:21
ubotuto install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE08:21
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CarstenPhi! which is a good emule / edonkey client?08:30
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turbolivBonsoir tlm08:31
frank23CarstenP: aMule08:31
turbolivdites g un ppin08:32
frank23turboliv: le channel ici est en anglais seulement08:32
turbolivj avais un serveur apache sur windoz ki tounait sansproblm08:32
ubotuVas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais08:32
turbolivah dsl08:32
CarstenPfrank23: thanks i will try that one08:33
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frank23CarstenP: yeah it works exactly like emule08:34
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ryanakcahow do you change your pgp passphrase?08:38
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sLeytrhi, is there a way to catch a process that periodicaly using disk (for 4secs interval)08:46
derekSis there a bug in kubuntu (breezy) where xorg uses 100% of cpu08:47
derekSthis is really starting to frustrate me08:47
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frank23derekS: not that I know of08:48
frank23derekS: you can check bugzilla08:48
derekSno worries, its not my main machine08:48
derekSi was just curious08:48
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JakubS_sLeytr: maybe 'top' can show it08:54
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sLeytrit only sorts by memory and cpu08:55
sLeytris anybody know a bug in kubuntu where some process accessing disk for 4 secs intervals08:56
visik7show what ?08:56
ryanakcahow do you change your pgp passphrase?08:56
JakubS_i assumed that time spent in i/o should be shown as cpu time08:57
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sLeytri monitored cpu time but it's not show any change when disk used09:00
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gammaanyone here use konqueror+kaffeine?09:01
JakubS_me, sometimes09:01
gammadoes it ever crash on you viewing embedded videos?09:01
JakubS_every time i use 'back' after or during viewing video09:02
gammaok so i'm not alone09:03
gammaim hoping that's fixed09:03
visik7how can I adapt font of menu and items in openoffice to my kde settings ? firefox is ok but OO still sucks09:03
visik7too big fonts09:03
JakubS_gamma: hm, i should try newest svn version09:03
JakubS_is kaffeine located on kde svn server?09:04
gammano idea.. i switched to kubuntu to use "official" repositories09:04
gammacame from gentoo.. im sick of compiling from source :P09:04
me2winive only compiled from source a few times in my life09:05
me2winand i hate it09:05
me2winthe most compiling i like to do is in my c++ programs... IN WINDOWS. lol09:05
gammacompiling a whole system is very slow and annoying09:05
JakubS_oh, something new - this time it freezed konq completely09:06
JakubS_... for several seconds and then it actually went back without crash09:07
gammawrite something there so i don't feel alone :P09:07
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JakubS_first i have to make it crash09:07
gammaare you on dapper?09:08
JakubS_SIGFPE? what the hell09:08
gammaJakubS_: http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/10275/TOCA-Race-Driver-3s-Damage-Engine-In-Action/09:08
gammago there, click the video link and then try right clicking save file on the http link under hte video09:09
JakubS_looks like xine itself is at fault - or rather its asf demuxer09:09
me2winlol, im in the windows channels09:09
me2winthey're arguing about Intel vs. AMD09:09
JakubS_gamma: error during loading plugin09:10
gammaso i must have something you don't then09:10
gammayou have w32codecs?09:10
JakubS_let's see ign.com09:10
gammaign.com changed to a flash video09:10
gammaso that no longer produces the bug09:11
JakubS_oh, it crashed all righ when closing konq09:11
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gammagametrailers.com has videos that will bork stuff too09:12
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NCLifemy k3b dont start up unless i do a sudo k3b in a terminal and it doesnt burn dvds right09:16
NCLifeshould i uninstall and reinstall k3b? if so, how?09:16
me2winremove the package using adept09:17
me2winthen reinstall09:17
me2winalso try running it with alt+f209:17
me2winor kdesu k3b09:17
NCLifeokay, so i remove it with adept and reisntall it with adept too?09:18
me2winthats what i would do09:18
NCLifeok, ill try :)09:18
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me2winanybody else get that?09:20
_mindspinin #ubuntu-offtopic09:21
zarqserver notice09:21
zarqI'm liking kubuntu09:23
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me2winkubuntu > ubuntu09:24
zarqjust setting up konversation atm, which is how I ended up here :P09:24
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NCLifeme2win, i just realized its not only a k3b problem :S im using gnome righ now, but i originaly downloaded and installed kubuntu so i have programs of both kde and gnome..09:25
NCLifeme2win, and i just now noticed i cant open any kde programs :S09:25
me2wini wonder why.....09:25
NCLifeim getting this error: kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied09:25
NCLifeCould not bind to socket '/home/sinclair/.kde/socket-201/kdeinit__0'09:25
NCLifeERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.09:25
me2winbeats the hell out of me, i havent been using linux long enough to know what that means, hah09:26
NCLife:D yahoo09:26
NCLifeill ask in the other channel :)09:26
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Russel-Athleticcan somebody please give me a sources.list for dapper? mine wants to uninstall kde09:28
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:29
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:29
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Russel-Athletichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 this sourcelist wants to uninstall kubuntu bzw packages like adept or amarok09:33
Russel-Athletichttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/577212  the output of apt-get dist-upgrade09:35
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psuedoHi would anyone help me get kubuntu configured for the first time, im a linux newbie?09:36
me2winwhatcha need09:37
me2winill try my best09:37
psuedojust some commands i guess09:37
psuedoill pm you09:37
psuedoit ownt let me =[09:37
me2winRussel-Athletic: it used to happen to me, but i dont remember what happened09:37
Snake__psuedo: register09:37
psuedowhere @09:37
ubotu[register]  type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))09:37
psuedok thanks09:38
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Rev0my nick is in use09:39
Rev0<-- psuedo09:39
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Rev0what is register command again09:40
ubotusomebody said register was type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))09:40
Rev0o ok ty09:40
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Rev033how would i go about getting updates09:41
Rev033or better yet09:41
Rev033how do i enable my root account09:41
drcurlCan someone help me with upgrading to kde3.5.1 in breezy09:41
Snake__Rev033: root isnt needed...09:41
Rev033id rather just log to root then sudo all the time09:41
Snake__Alright, google it09:42
Snake__its out there09:42
Rev033o ok09:42
drcurlI added the repository, but aptitude won't upgrade09:42
Rev033wut is the apt-get command for essentials09:42
ubotu[gcc]  the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'09:42
Rev033sudo apt-get install-essentials ?09:42
me2winsudo apt-get install build-essential09:42
Rev033wow this chat is very helpful09:42
Snake__We try ;)09:42
Rev033im glad i finally found a place to learn09:42
Rev033no more windows for atleast 2 months09:43
Rev033i promised my self09:43
Rev033i figure id learn more this way09:43
trappistRev033: awesome.  you'll never go back.09:43
Rev033is kubuntu the way 2 go?09:43
trappistRev033: took me less that two weeks to realize I didn't need windows anymore.09:43
Rev033ok i can install windows apps on linux correct?09:43
Snake__(Your in a kubuntu channel...think well say no? hehe)09:43
Rev033eg: limewire ?09:43
me2winand you shouldn't log into root account, sudos is much better to use09:43
drcurlAptitude tells me that it will keep the old kde packages when I ask it to upgrade?09:43
Snake__Rev033: limewire runs native under linux09:43
trappistRev033: some of them, yeah.  limewire is java so it will run natively.09:43
Rev033psuedo@psuedo:/etc/apt$ sudo apt-get install build-essentials09:43
Rev033sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb 28 20:27:02 200609:43
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trappistRev033: build-essential.09:44
Rev033same error09:44
Snake__Rev033: is your clock set righT?09:44
trappistRev033: you seem to have some clock issues.09:44
Rev033let me look09:44
Rev033i set it to automatic09:45
Rev033and now running apt-get build-essential09:45
Rev033lol but it says my time is 20:4509:45
Rev033build essentials is done09:46
Rev033now how about my gfx card?09:46
me2winwhat is it?09:46
Rev033geforce 309:46
me2win !fglrx09:46
ubotuI guess fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:46
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Rev033event not found09:47
Rev033just kidding09:47
Rev033its sofunny that im so dumb with linux09:47
Rev033i was almost arrested today for hacking09:47
Rev033and im so dumb09:47
Rev033and i dont know shit about hacking09:47
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Rev033this tutorial09:48
Rev033teaches me how to update gfx with gui09:48
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Rev033any command line way/09:48
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tomas_anyone hear of vloopback?09:50
tomas_please answer if you have!09:51
Rev033since i registered cna i pm now?09:51
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me2wini believe so09:51
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tijnhey all10:05
tijndoes anyone an good tool to recover data from a broken disk?10:05
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tijnunmountable e.d10:05
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trappisttijn: what kind of disk10:13
trappistwell... dd if=/dev/busteddevice of=imagefile conv=noerror10:14
trappistwould be a good start10:14
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tijntrappist: k thnx, its a normal ide ata disk10:17
SirKillalotanyone knows kasbar?10:17
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tijntrappist: seems its broken badly :/10:21
trappistyeah that happens10:21
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tijnyep, well, the guy should have made a backup :)10:22
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skypais anyone aware of a libvisual0.2-plugins package?10:23
trappisttijn: http://linuxkungfu.org/images/fun/?image=710:24
jpatrick!info libvisual0.2-plugins10:24
jpatrickPackage 'libvisual0.2-plugins' does not exist.10:24
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dpydamn, kubuntu d/l in only 10 minutes10:25
dpyhows that for a home internet connection :)10:25
skypa!info libvisual0.2*10:25
tijntrappist: hahah ill send it to him :D10:27
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tijntrappist: oe wait, its doing something :)10:29
trappistwhat it should be expected to do is spit out a lot of errors while building an image file10:30
tijnthe image is normally mountable i assume?10:30
tijni/o error10:31
tijnah well it goes on :D10:31
trappistyou know, I never tried to mount it, but I guess it should be, with -o loop10:32
tijnok thnx10:32
tijnhope it goes well, i think it might nag about the filesystem10:33
tijnsince it isnt mountable.. but ill think there will be a workaround10:33
tijnerhm its broken i mean10:33
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_grigoryhello everyone!10:38
_grigorya little kubuntu emergency here10:38
_grigorya friend of mine, 3 days after switching to kubuntu, rebooted his computer, on on booting got this:10:39
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_grigoryhe claims that he turned off computer properly10:39
_grigoryany suggestions on how he can fix this?10:40
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_grigoryre-installing is always an option, but i'm pretty sure there should be some other way10:40
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tijnwell, cab you insert the rootpass for maintainence?10:41
_grigoryinsert rootpass? you mean load console and 'login' as root?10:42
robotgeek_grigory: you can run e2fsck manually at that prompt to repair10:42
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_grigorywell, if he would be able to get access to console, just running e2fsck should fix the problem? the guy never worked with linux before, maybe knows basic commands such as ls & cd10:43
robotgeek_grigory: yeah, hopefully yes10:43
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Snake__Hey guys, is it possible to lock down the panel in KDE 3.4.3 like you can in 3.5.1?10:44
me2win!ubotu sound10:44
ubotu[sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary10:44
_grigoryrobotgeek: now he tells me that he can not get access to console at all10:44
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_grigoryis it possible to use kubuntu's install cd as a boot disc, like those recover discs in windows, just to load console ?10:46
rev033you could get a live cd10:47
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tijnor tomsrtbt, boot floppy10:50
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_grigorytjin: that tomsrtbt, where can I get it?10:57
_grigoryoh, found it10:57
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_grigoryso just download that boot floppy, write it on floppy, and then boot from it? will it help solve the problem? (above)11:01
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robotgeek_grigory: you can try using rescue mode on the install cd, maybe?11:05
_grigoryoh, there is one11:05
_grigorythat's what i was asking before11:05
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Snake__robotgeek: whats rescue mode do..is it all CLI?11:07
_grigoryrobotgeek: how do i use it though?11:07
Snake___grigory: use your install CD, but type in "rescue" where it says Boot: probly11:07
robotgeekall cli Snake__11:07
_grigorywhat's CLI ?11:07
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org11:07
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Tallia1Kubuntu/appz/Matlab-7.R14/bin/util/oscheck.sh: line 134: /lib/libc.so.6: Permission denied11:27
Tallia1Kubuntuanybody can help me in understanding this warning message when i start matlab?11:27
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robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MATLAB11:28
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cozhello to all11:28
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Tallia1Kubuntu:) hehe robotgeek i didn't know about this :)11:28
cozI have a slight problem and my nephew, expert in networking, is not avaiable so11:28
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DocTomoewhere does kubuntu have its qt-dev files? for some wicked reason, qgo's configure fails to find them automatically11:29
cozI have impi installed and it seems to default to ipv6 and my linksys router doesn't support that11:29
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cozifconfig -a reveal an ipv6-in-ipv411:29
robotgeekDocTomoe: sometimes, you may have to configure it manually11:29
farous/usr/include/qt3 i think or just use the locate command11:29
cozanyway to fox this in kde11:29
cozfix not fox11:30
_Ana_i've got a major problem: i can't login as a normal user, only as root. in text mode, when i try to login as a normal user i get the error: cannot execute /bin/bash. and i've even created another user and i still get that error11:30
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malte_Ana_: never irc as root!11:30
me2wini was gonna say11:31
farousDocTomoe: i had the same problem and had to give the libqt3-mt lib path as well as the dev path i just sent you11:31
DocTomoefarous: should be "--with-qt-includes, shouldn't it?11:31
DocTomoejupp, seems to work11:31
me2winfamoues last words11:31
malte_Ana_: hm. what permissions does /bin/bash have?11:31
cozany neetworking gurus here/11:31
farousDocTomoe: depend what you install11:31
_Ana_-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 645140 Oct  5 15:16 /bin/bash11:31
me2winI can't login as anything but root! (me2win has left this channel ("Your b0x belong to me!").11:32
malte_Ana_: nothing strange there then.. sorry, i dunno really :/11:32
Dasnipa`lol me2win11:32
_Ana_yeah i know... it's really really strange....11:32
me2winlol, sup Dasnipa`11:33
farous_Ana_: can you check ho owns ICEauthority11:33
farousit is a hidden file so .ICE11:33
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cozanyone proficient in networking here??11:33
Dasnipa`nothing much11:33
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation. See !easyubuntu.11:34
farouscoz: just ask your question if someone can help he/she will11:34
cozwho is thi subotu11:34
cozI have impi installed and it will not connect to internet11:34
coz Ihave three machines one breezy one dapper one impi11:34
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cozit wants to connect with ipv6 but linksys router doesn't support ipv611:35
_Ana_farous: i can't find that file... ICEauthority11:35
cozonlu impi box does this11:35
Dasnipa`me2win, http://pastebin.com/57747111:35
farous_Ana_ it is a hidden file did you check for hidden files. And this is just a though am running fluxbox here not kde11:36
farous_Ana_: just seem to me that some of you files are not owned by you and that might cause a prob11:36
me2winlol Dasnipa`, nice11:37
maltefarous: that shouldn't cause him not to be able to login11:37
me2winits funny cuz, i saw a why vista wont suck story on digg today11:37
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cozany suggestions11:38
me2winnot sure11:38
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win11:39
farousmalte: then i am out of ideas :)11:39
farouscoz sorry have no exp with ipv611:39
cozanyone knwo what the procedure would be to impliment ipv4?11:39
cozI would think that impi like dapper and breezy would atuo detect ethernet11:40
tijnipv4? is standard right11:40
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cozipv6 is new standard11:40
Coolio10whats difference between dapper and breezy?11:40
tijnso why implent it?11:40
cozdapper is version 6 breezy 5.1011:40
cozimpi is 611:40
Coolio10#coz oh11:40
cozimpi is ubuntu commercial11:41
Coolio10i thought dapper was lower11:41
cozdapper is newest11:41
Coolio10isnt it like beta stages still?11:41
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cozin the economy calss11:41
tijnlike testin, or unstable in debian?11:41
coznew versio of ubuntu /kubuntu out in april11:42
cozyes fairly11:42
tijnah ok sweet11:42
cozwith xgl and compiz a little less11:42
tijniam more of a debian guy myself11:42
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cozubuntu is debian essentially11:43
tijnbut for laptops and stuff, its easier11:43
cozimpi is the commercial version of ubuntu11:43
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cozI have all three but for some reason impi refused to default to ipv411:43
tijnthats wierd11:43
coztell me11:44
cozifconig -a revaels an ipv6-in-ipv411:44
cozyet no resutls11:44
me2winanyone in here use ntfsmount?11:44
coznot me me2win11:45
tijnme2win: erhm yes11:45
tijnin a way, why?11:45
cozthaks anyway guys11:45
me2wintijn: how is it? reliable?11:45
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tijnyes, i think it is, write support and all works,11:45
tijnusing it for a couple of months now, and had no trouble11:45
me2wini have 4 300 gig HDs, all ntfs11:46
tijnbut thats my expierience11:46
me2winso i like being able to mess with them without worrying11:46
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tijnwell, to tell the truth, i found out i mounted ntfs instead of fat or something when i was aready using it for a month11:47
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_bu have used it to store and copy a lot ?11:49
tijncopied complete dvd's to it, removed it and stuff11:50
_bintresesting i my trie i also have lotsa ntfs disk11:50
tijnwell, thats my exp :)11:50
_bi can sacrifice som pr0n in the name of science ! :)11:51
tijn(mmh me is doubting if its smarts to use it @work on the servers)11:51
tijn_b thats bad!11:51
tijnsacrifice something else :D11:51
me2wini stream media from those HDs11:52
me2winits actually like a file server for my home11:52
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me2wini also host files for my brother to leech from11:52
me2winwhois coolio1011:54
tijndunno, add a / ;)11:54
me2winmy bad11:54
tijnbut, i use ntfsmount on debian btw, dont thinks this makes a difference for kubuntu11:55
tijnbut maybe some version related probs as iam running debian unstable11:55
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me2winthere is a package for ntfsprogs11:55
me2winthats what im looking for really11:55
me2wini mean11:55
me2wini want ntfsmount mostly11:55
me2winbut yeah lol11:55
me2wini dont know what the hell i just said11:56
tijnru drunk?11:56
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me2wini wish11:56
tijndont drink and mount :P11:56
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ubotuTallia1Kubuntu: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:58
ubotu[alsa]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix11:58
me2wini love the ! commands11:58
ubotuI heard motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )11:58
Tallia1Kubuntuthey are convenient sometimes :)12:00
ubotuTallia1Kubuntu: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:00
Tallia1Kubuntui think the search database of ubutu should be a wikipage12:01
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Tallia1Kubuntudon't you think ?12:01
Tallia1Kubuntuin that way whoever discover something useful can put a line12:01

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