[12:00] <maxkelley> so when you type /home/whoever/gaim it will execute /usr/bin/gaim
[12:00] <rupan3> 10 to 30 dollars a month for 5kb of bandwidth? makes you wonder how people ever put up with it
[12:00] <maxkelley> very simple, yees?
[12:00] <CyCloBot> how
[12:00] <CyCloBot> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop but when it detects hardware it freezes at 86% were it loads module "ide-cd" for "Linux ATAPI CD-ROM". any help?
[12:00] <SoulForge> I know it works on windows
[12:00] <Q_Continuum> FlannelKing, http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/563/
[12:00] <iBalo> flaxi: first enable universe and multiverse repos, then sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts, then adjust fonts in firefox
[12:00] <rupan3> CyCloBot: i had teh same problem
[12:00] <cedriczg> I think II didn't explained my problem in a right way
[12:00] <SoulForge> but you can hold control and scroll the mouse wheel to decrease or increase text size
[12:00] <cedriczg> I wan't to make an icon
[12:00] <Q_Continuum> FlannelKing, serach for and find the section titled "Editor's addendum: Console Clients"
[12:00] <SoulForge> pointed to flaxi
[12:00] <cedriczg> a launcher
[12:00] <maxkelley> CyCloBot: at the boot: prompt, press f1 and look for something for it to bypass ide-detection
[12:00] <Mrono> why am I getting these errors? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9466
[12:01] <maxkelley> cedriczg: mmmm
[12:01] <CyCloBot> rupan3: did u solve it
[12:01] <flaxi> iBalo, thank you!!!! one more question, when I enable multiverse repos, I can then be able to find firefox 1.5?
[12:01] <maxkelley> cedriczg: right click and click "Create launcher"
[12:01] <cedriczg> You undestand?
[12:01] <iBalo> !ff1.5
[12:01] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[12:01] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:01] <rupan3> CyCloBot: eyah i got it installed.. try this..:
[12:01] <cedriczg> yes I know the how
[12:01] <maxkelley> cedriczg: you are using gnome, right?
[12:01] <cedriczg> I don't know why it doesn't work
[12:01] <maxkelley> well what's the problem then?
[12:01] <rupan3> CyCloBot: turn on all the debugging.. its on one of the pages, two settings
[12:01] <flaxi> Soulforge, yeah, thank you, but then the text becomes too small... but thank you for the tip
[12:01] <cedriczg> Yes ubuntu 5.10
[12:01] <FlannelKing> thanks Q_Continuum I'll take a look
[12:01] <rupan3> CyCloBot: then run your install in expert mode
[12:01] <maxkelley> cedriczg: I don't understand the problem..
[12:02] <Q_Continuum> Google = your friend :D
[12:02] <rupan3> CyCloBot: and disable the last 5 or so options, and it will detect your cdrom drive as a floppy
[12:02] <cedriczg> if the launcher is set to be runn in a terminal it works
[12:02] <maxkelley> it has almost a googol of answers!!
[12:02] <rupan3> CyCloBot: at least, that's what it did for me
[12:02] <jms830> I have been trying to set up hotkeys for Xmms using xbindkeys. I entered xbindkeys-config and added my hotkeys, and they work except that it opens a new instance of xmms if i opened the original instance from within nautilus by clicking an mp3
[12:02] <cedriczg> but if it is not set to be lauched in a terminal it doesn't work
[12:02] <jms830> anyone know how to fix this??
[12:02] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  he wants a desktop launcher for gaim
[12:02] <maxkelley> cedriczg: what is the app?
[12:02] <cedriczg> however matlab doesn't use the terminal!!
[12:02] <IdleOne> or whatever app it is
[12:03] <cedriczg> matlab7
[12:03] <xcc>  2pt fonts in many applications scared me %(
[12:03] <scottj> how do I reset my gnome theme? the one I installed is crashing panel
[12:03] <maxkelley> cedriczg: is matlab in your applications menu?
[12:03] <scottj> there must be a way from the console
[12:03] <liskl_> hello: i'm looking for a way to display changing text data on the X Display transparently
[12:03] <cedriczg> I had to make the icon there too
[12:03] <maxkelley> liskl_: google, I know there's an app for it..
[12:03] <cedriczg> but I have the same problem
[12:03] <maxkelley> hmm
[12:03] <FlannelKing> Q_Continuum: no http access at the moment, just SSH, or I'd google till my hearts content.
[12:03] <RemyLaptop> hey guys, how do i set it so that my comp doesn't ask for password when it comes out of screen saver mode ?
[12:03] <maxkelley> cedriczg: what's the problem then? does it work from terminal?
[12:04] <colm> FlannelKing,  Links!
[12:04] <maxkelley> RemyLaptop: not possible.
[12:04] <RemyLaptop> k
[12:04] <cedriczg> from terminal yes, but it is weird for me that it has to be done this way
[12:04] <rupan3> RemyLaptop: turn off your screensaver
[12:04] <maxkelley> it's built into xscreensaver, standard sexy linux procedure :)
[12:04] <rupan3> :)
[12:04] <cedriczg> that's wht it is a little problem :P
[12:04] <maxkelley> hmm odd
[12:04] <maxkelley> cedriczg: sorry we can't help.. just try messing around with it :)
[12:04] <cedriczg> I had to sort a lot of bigger problems to make matlab work fine !!!
[12:05] <CyCloBot> rupan3: how do i turn on all debugging
[12:05] <cedriczg> thanks anyway
[12:05] <maxkelley> cedriczg: btw, what is the tld .uy?
[12:05] <Ubunter> hi all
[12:05] <maxkelley> uruguay?
[12:05] <maxkelley> hey, Ubunter
[12:05] <cedriczg> uruguay
[12:05] <maxkelley> haha, me guessed.
[12:05] <knoppix> hi
[12:05] <Ubunter> hi
[12:05] <cedriczg> alguien pregunt por uruguay?
[12:05] <liskl_> another question: how to change startup runlevel 2 to runlevel 3?
[12:05] <rupan3> CyCloBot: use your fKeys (f1-f8) they display information about varibles you can pass on to the boot loader.
[12:05] <maxkelley> do they speak portuguese there or spanish?
[12:05] <RemyLaptop> !pspp
[12:05] <ubotu> RemyLaptop: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:05] <RemyLaptop> !spss
[12:06] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[12:06] <PDani> is there ubuntu mini install iso?
[12:06] <Ubunter> may someone help me?
[12:06] <rupan3> CyCloBot: one of those has a page that will tell you
[12:06] <xcc>  what i may do with 2pt fonts in many applications %(
[12:06] <CyCloBot> rupan3 prive chat?
[12:06] <dyrne> PDani, i believe there is a server install iso
[12:06] <Seyekoh> cedriczg: what app do you need a launcher for?
[12:06] <rupan3> CyCloBot: sure
[12:06] <mikebot> on the windows dual boot thing it says i need 10 gb of free space, but do i really need that much?
[12:06] <maxkelley> no tengo mas preguntas. quiero comer mi cena :) adios... :)
[12:06] <PDani> dyrne: where?
[12:06] <xcc>  what i may do with 2pt fonts in many applications? %(
[12:06] <rupan3> have a good dinenr max
[12:06] <cedriczg> maxkelley yes I'm from Uruguay
[12:06] <rupan3> diiner even
[12:06] <sandrinux> Good night all... I go to play with my new desktop :-)
[12:06] <cedriczg> maxkelley: yes I'm from Uruguay
[12:07] <Ubunter> I have a netword card, listed in "device manager" but I don't have eth0 ...
[12:07] <Ubunter> I can't even configure it
[12:07] <cedriczg> Seyekoh: for matlab7
[12:07] <IdleOne> !es
[12:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:07] <Seyekoh> cedriczg: right click desktop > create launcher > name it whatever you want > for command put in /path/to/matlab7 have it as an application
[12:07] <iBalo> mikebot: 10 GB is the minimun sensible space for _WinXP_ ... ubuntu will install fine in 3 GB, although i'd recommend a 4-5 Gig partition
[12:07] <biovore> cedriczg: matlab 7 is kinda of a pain to setup on linux
[12:07] <Seyekoh> it will create an icon on your desktop that you dbl click to run the proggie
[12:07] <xcc>  hi 4 all from not-orange Ukraine!!!
[12:08] <cedriczg> Seyekoh: I said I know the how but it works only if I ask it to be run in a terminal
[12:08] <Ubunter> lol xcc :D (non-orange :D)
[12:08] <dyrne> PDani, i would have thought itd be appearant on ubuntu.com but im having trouble finding it once sec
[12:08] <mikebot> anyone?
[12:08] <Seyekoh> cedriczg: oh, sorry, i left the room mid conversation
[12:08] <cedriczg> biovore: I see!!!!!!
[12:08] <scottj> how do I change gnome theme from console? I installed a theme that crashes on use and now I can't change it.
[12:09] <cedriczg> thanks you guys anyway
[12:09] <Q_Continuum> mikebot: 10GB for the Windows partition, or for Ubuntu?
[12:09] <xcc> yep bad in en %( sorry
[12:09] <cedriczg> at least I could make it run...
[12:09] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: ubuntu
[12:09] <j2daosh> anyone proficeitn in bash?
[12:09] <mikebot> Q_Continuum:  Type in a new size in Gigabytes for your partition, it's recommended you free up AT LEAST 10 GB of free space for your Ubuntu install
[12:09] <xcc>  2pt fonts in many applications? %(
[12:09] <biovore> j2daosh: wnat you want to do?
[12:09] <IdleOne> scottj:  log out and at the login screen click on session and choose failsafe you should then be able to remove the theme you installed
[12:09] <Q_Continuum> well, you need swap space (usually 1-2GB) plus space for the OS, working files, etc.
[12:09] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9467
[12:10] <Q_Continuum> mikebot: is space an issue?
[12:10] <j2daosh> take a look at that and tell me why it aint working
[12:10] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: i've got 6.46 free
[12:10] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: yeah
[12:10] <PDani> ^quit
[12:10] <ompaul> mikebot, what ram have you got?
[12:10] <mikebot> ompaul: ummm one esc
[12:10] <biovore> j2daosh: not working as in sytax error.. or dosn't do waht you want
[12:11] <Ubunter> I have a netword card, listed in "device manager" but I don't have eth0 on net configuration.
[12:11] <xcc>  Ukrains rubbish wait 4 your answer
[12:11] <mikebot> ompaul: i don't know, how do i check? i think it's 256
[12:11] <Ubunter> please :)
[12:11] <j2daosh> ill repost with results
[12:11] <Q_Continuum> mikebot that *could* work.  Wouldn't be able to do a whole lot with it, but if you're just looking to play with Ubuntu you'd be fine.
[12:11] <Q_Continuum> mikebot in windows?  right-click My Computer->Properties
[12:11] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9468
[12:11] <ompaul> mike4263, so  type 500 for sway for swap
[12:11] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: what wouldn't i be able ot do though?
[12:11] <iBalo> Here's what df -h tells for my / partition: /dev/hdc2             3,1G  2,4G  716M  77% /
[12:11] <Q_Continuum> mikebot install every package, install large games, or copy a whole bunch of data into it.
[12:11] <ompaul> mike4263, give 5.9G to the core filesystem
[12:12] <Q_Continuum> mikebot let me see how much space my fresh install took
[12:12] <ompaul> mike4263, sorry wrong mike
[12:12] <j2daosh> why des it say that? i know that line 89/90 is because it is the pid of my initial grep which isn't a valid pid anymore after the grep finishes... but why is it too many parameters on line 42?
[12:12] <ompaul> mikebot, give 5.9G to the core filesystem
[12:12] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: what's a package? i don't play games and have a seperate harddrive for most data, plus i'm doing a dual instlal so i can always use my windows for ntfs stuff
[12:13] <itagaa> Heya guys anybody knows if it is possible to install ubuntu from a usbdevice (512 mb) because for some unknown reason i don't seem to be able to boot from cd :/
[12:13] <Q_Continuum> mikebot package = app
[12:13] <ompaul> mikebot, then give the rest to the os and whatever else you want to do
[12:13] <mikebot> i would only need enough room for fla's and doc's
[12:13] <ompaul> mikebot, sorry for swap
[12:13] <mikebot> opbut i don't need 10gb then
[12:13] <FlannelKing> itagaa: yeah, you just have to have a motherboard that'll boot from a usb device
[12:13] <mikebot> swap?
[12:13] <ompaul> mike4263, you need a min of 2.5 to do a small install but you will survive
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> mikebot you should be able to get by.  Just have to be careful what all you decide to install (might have to go through and remove some apps you don't use)
[12:14] <biovore> j2daosh: you have vars not equal to anything..  try setting the vars. var1="" as an example  vat1= <-- causes errors
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> mikebot swap = windows pagefile
[12:14] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: ah
[12:14] <harritj> File::Recurse <-- any package that holds or do I need to take it via cpan?
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> temporary HD space in case there's not enough RAM.
[12:14] <mikebot> i think i might just format my c:
[12:14] <mikebot> without looking to see what's on it
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> how big's the disk?
[12:14] <j2daosh> biovore... it works fine in my simple test script
[12:14] <mikebot> then i would have enough space
[12:14] <Ivan_Garmoshka> what i may do with very small fonts inx-applications?
[12:14] <ompaul> Q_Continuum, he won't that kind of problem from what he is saying Ubuntu is not that prolific it is 2gigs base for Breezy
[12:14] <j2daosh> ill paste that one to show
[12:14] <alphabeticalizat> can someone help me get the codecs for avi and other movie formats?
[12:14] <Q_Continuum> ompaul true.  I couldn't rememeber how big it was.
[12:14] <IdleOne> !ukraine
[12:14] <ubotu> IdleOne: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:15] <ompaul> Q_Continuum, s/Breezy/5.10
[12:15] <itagaa> [00:13]  <FlannelKing> itagaa: yeah, you just have to have a motherboard that'll boot from a usb device >> doens't allow that :(
[12:15] <IdleOne> anybody know the country code for ukraine?
[12:15] <RemyLaptop> are there any good packages that contain desktop background images and more themes ?
[12:15] <ompaul> IdleOne, uk
[12:15] <bimberi> ubotu tell alphabeticalizat about w32codecs
[12:15] <IdleOne> !uk
[12:15] <ubotu> IdleOne: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:15] <IdleOne> damn know ukrainian channel
[12:15] <Ubunter> ukarina=kr?
[12:15] <iBalo> !tell alphabeticalizat about codecs
[12:15] <RemyLaptop> alphabeticalizat, go to www.easyubuntu.com
[12:15] <Ivan_Garmoshka> IdleOne, kakoi kod?
[12:15] <RemyLaptop> easiest way to do it :)
[12:15] <Ubunter> uk is england
[12:15] <IdleOne> !kr
[12:15] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[12:15] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9469
[12:16] <j2daosh> there u go biovore
[12:16] <alphabeticalizat> ok thx
[12:16] <Ivan_Garmoshka> IdleOne, UA
[12:16] <Madpilot> !ru
[12:16] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:16] <RemyLaptop> anyone know any good packages that contain desktop background images and more themes ?
[12:16] <Alexi5> hey guys
[12:16] <j2daosh> hello
[12:16] <biovore> I think its your if statement
[12:16] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, search Synaptic for "theme" - look for gtk2 packages
[12:16] <Madpilot> !tell RemyLaptop about themes
[12:16] <j2daosh> but what is wrong with the if statement?
[12:16] <bobbyd> hi
[12:16] <biovore> echo "$name1" == "Root" Is whats causing the problem
[12:16] <Madpilot> RemyLaptop, also, check the URLs the bot just sent you
[12:16] <mikebot> 7.49 free now
[12:17] <mikebot> that should be fine
[12:17] <ompaul> Ubunter, no it is en_GB
[12:17] <mikebot> and do 7 for the install or something?
[12:17] <j2daosh> ....how is that the problem?
[12:17] <k31th> evening all
[12:17] <ProjectX> Does anybody know if Ubuntu will follow any of the things listed in "The Linux Distribution Of The Future"?
[12:17] <bobbyd> can anyone recommend a user-level app (ie not compliated) for encoding video from a video4linux compatible card to a decent sized video file?
[12:17] <j2daosh> ok ill mod the test5 script i made to see if it is the "$name1" == "root"
[12:17] <mikebot> ompaul: is that a fair ratio, swap 500mb and ubuntu 7gb?
[12:17] <iBalo> RemyLaptop: sudo apt-get install gnome-art, and then choose whta you wnat from http://www.art.gnome.org
[12:18] <mark_> Hello ppl
[12:18] <spikebike> memencoder/mplayer or ffmpeg
[12:18] <RemyLaptop> thanks fues
[12:18] <RemyLaptop> *guys
[12:18] <j2daosh> RemyLaptop, no just install gnome-art and then go to system, preferences, art manager and dl from there
[12:18] <ompaul> mikebot, if you can do that much yes
[12:18] <BEAR> 2PT FONTS IN X MAKES MY AGRESSIVE :#
[12:18] <spikebike> swap depends more on ram than disk
[12:18] <ProjectX> Does anybody know if Ubuntu will follow any of the things listed in "The Linux Distribution Of The Future"? http://akaimbatman.blogspot.com/2005/06/linux-desktop-distribution-of-future_15.html
[12:18] <mark_> what media player would be used for wma
[12:18] <BEAR> 2PT FONTS IN X MAKES MY AGRESSIVE :#
[12:18] <mikebot> ompaul: okay thanks
[12:18] <mikebot> Q_Continuum: thanks for your help
[12:19] <ompaul> BEAR, and caps lock are not for here
[12:19] <IdleOne> BEAR:  please stop that
[12:19] <mikebot> i have to reboot to install this, so, hopefully i'll be back sometime soon
[12:19] <Q_Continuum> mikebot: That's what we're here for.  Users helping users :D
[12:19] <IdleOne> !ua
[12:19] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[12:19] <bobbyd> spikebike, was the mencoder idea for me?
[12:19] <BEAR> IdleOne, execuse sir
[12:19] <IdleOne> sorry about the fishing folks
[12:20] <biovore> j2daosh: Try: if [ $USER = "Root" ] ; then echo "I am root"; fi
[12:20] <mark_> What player wud be used for .WMA files
[12:20] <RemyLaptop> totem
[12:20] <Q_Continuum> ProjectX: #2 is the only one I see Ubuntu (possibly) having issues with, but that's more of a "making the user understand the layout"
[12:20] <RemyLaptop> mark_, check out www.easyubuntu.com
[12:20] <trappist> $USER isn't likely to equal "Root"
[12:20] <BEAR> IdleOne, how i stop my problem with small fonts?
[12:20] <mark_> k thnx
[12:20] <ompaul> IdleOne, you got a pm :)
[12:20] <Madpilot> !tell mark about restricted
[12:21] <RemyLaptop> mark_, I meant: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:21] <RemyLaptop> mark_  that will install all the codecs and players you need for you
[12:21] <Q_Continuum> ProjectX: even #2 might not matter...most (normal users) people just want it to work, and they ask for help, we walk them through it step-by-step (or have how-tos/tutorials ready to go)
[12:21] <RemyLaptop> !easyubuntu
[12:21] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:21] <Demigod> anyone in here who has experience with MySQL?
[12:22] <spikebike> yes
[12:22] <biovore> Demigod: I know some stuff
[12:22] <RemyLaptop> !tell mark_ about easyubuntu
[12:22] <NickGarve1> ./join #mysql
[12:22] <Demigod> did you download the software from mysql.com?
[12:22] <biovore> Demigod: apt-get install mysql-server
[12:22] <Demigod> hmmm
[12:22] <Demigod> thanks for that info :D
[12:22] <k31th> you guys use Amsn or gaim ?
[12:22] <liskl> anyone know why tabs aren't working by defualt in fluxbox on ubuntu 5.10
[12:23] <dejx> guys
[12:23] <console_> does anyone know how to set up two net cards which share the same driver?
[12:23] <dejx> i think there is a firewall
[12:23] <rupan3> k31th: i use gaim
[12:23] <dejx> on my computer
[12:23] <dejx> but iptables -F dont disable it.
[12:24] <liskl> package install "fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb"
[12:24] <rupan3> dejx: why do you think that
[12:24] <biovore> dejx: what dose iptables -v -list say?
[12:24] <mark_> ok, all i downloaded was a .zip file from easyubuntu! now what?
[12:24] <k31th> i might try fluxbox on this box
[12:24] <k31th> im getting pissed with bloated windows managers
[12:24] <dejx> dejx@notebook:~/fts$ telnet localhost 11234
[12:24] <dejx> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[12:24] <dejx> this should give me, con refused.
[12:24] <rupan3> k31th: try xubuntu
[12:25] <k31th> wat exactly is that ?
[12:25] <dejx> iptables v1.3.1: Unknown arg `-v'
[12:25] <rupan3> k31th: ubuntu using the xfce4 desktop environment
[12:25] <k31th> never seen that or used it
[12:25] <rupan3> it's pretty rockin
[12:25] <biovore> dejx: sudo iptables --list -v
[12:25] <k31th> wat about  enlightenment ?
[12:26] <rupan3> its what i use on my box
[12:26] <liskl> k3lth grab the newest fluxbox deb here http://people.debian.org/~dopey/fluxbox/ubuntu-breezy/fluxbox_0.9.14-1_i386.deb
[12:26] <sean> how have I managed to install ubuntu without a root password?
[12:26] <dejx> i am root.
[12:26] <rupan3> enlightenment is a window manager
[12:26] <rupan3> dejx: you shouldn't irc as root
[12:26] <sean> I don't recall being prompted to enter one during the install
[12:26] <dejx> no
[12:26] <j2daosh> ok biovore, i changed the "$name1" == "root" and that fixed half of it... it got to "if" statement 7... then it is giving me an error about the let var= part...
[12:26] <dejx> i'm in xterm
[12:26] <dejx> and su
[12:26] <rupan3> ah
[12:26] <k31th> rupan3: im gonna try it out
[12:26] <rupan3> totally
[12:26] <rupan3> there's some good articles on the wiki
[12:27] <rupan3> about xubuntu and xfce4
[12:27] <madgik85> sean: theres no root account i believe, u use sudo to use root commands, and enter ur password
[12:27] <dejx> http://pastebin.com/575777
[12:27] <j2daosh> something is wrong with this line.... what is it?      let var = $(echo "$line7"|cut -c10-14)
[12:27] <j2daosh>      ?
[12:27] <ompaul> BEAR, so use bigger ones
[12:27] <CyCloBot> rupan3: i skipped the the cdrom checl but it now asks for a module and device?
[12:28] <biovore> j2daosh: let var6=$(echo "$line1"|cut -c10-14)  should be let var6=(echo "$line1"|cut -c10-14)  I think...
[12:28] <ompaul> BEAR, and please stop bringing it up here
[12:28] <sean> madgik85, then how do launch sysnaptic from the menus?
[12:28] <dyrne> what do you guyes prefer for streaming audio? icecast?
[12:28] <k31th> rupan3: its just apt-get install xubuntu ???
[12:28] <j2daosh> ....really...
[12:28] <j2daosh> lemme try it
[12:28] <biovore> dejx: Looks like theres no fire wall here..
[12:28] <madgik85> sean: when prompted for a password just enter ur user password
[12:28] <sean> that don't work
[12:28] <Q_Continuum> sean whenever you do something that needs root access, it will prompt for your password, you have sudo'er privileges(sp?)
[12:28] <k31th> did u start the service
[12:28] <dejx> but why dont i get connection refused ?
[12:28] <BEAR> just lines in application windows
[12:29] <k31th> or stop it
[12:29] <k31th> just stop iptables
[12:29] <biovore> dejx: what you tring to connect to.
[12:29] <k31th> and try then
[12:29] <dejx> dejx@notebook:~/fts$ telnet localhost 11234
[12:29] <dejx> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[12:29] <dejx> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
[12:29] <dejx> dejx@notebook:~/fts$
[12:29] <sean> failed to run synaptic as user root wrong password
[12:29] <dejx> its closed port
[12:29] <j2daosh> nope... it needs the $
[12:29] <biovore> dejx: you have telnet installed
[12:29] <hagbard_> hi, i cant get eclipse to work on my amd64.... any suggestions? error log: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/304/
[12:29] <ompaul> dejx, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:29] <biovore> j2daosh: not really sure then man..
[12:29] <madgik85> sean: u created an account for urself when u installed right? that the account ur logged in as. Use that password
[12:29] <dejx> biovore ?
[12:30] <dejx> yes, i have
[12:30] <sean> madgik85, that's what I'm doing
[12:30] <madgik85> sean: u sure u entered the password correctly?
[12:30] <biovore> dejx: you probably want to use ssh.. much better
[12:30] <NickGarve1> ssh is great stuff..
[12:30] <sean> it's a pretty regular password for me
[12:30] <dejx> that's not the point, point is, 11234 is closed port
[12:30] <biovore> dejx: netstat -nal show port 21 active?
[12:30] <biovore> telnet is port 21 by default
[12:30] <Q_Continuum> sean: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo in case you want more info on it.
[12:30] <sean> and I login with it ok
[12:31] <dejx> no
[12:31] <dejx> listen to me.
[12:31] <dejx> you can
[12:31] <dejx> telnet localhost 22
[12:31] <dejx> to check version of sshd, for example
[12:31] <biovore> ssh is 22
[12:31] <dejx> yes
[12:31] <CyCloBot> rupan3: i skipped the the cdrom checl but it now asks for a module and device?
[12:31] <dejx> or telnet some.irc.server 6667
[12:31] <dejx> and then irc via telnet
[12:31] <dejx> nevermind biovore, can somebody else help me?
[12:31] <IdleOne> !tell dejx  about enter
[12:31] <Madpilot> !enter
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[12:31] <Madpilot> IdleOne, beat me to it :P
[12:32] <IdleOne> Im getting quicker
[12:32] <IdleOne> :P
[12:32] <biovore> dejx: oh.. thats what your tring to do..
[12:32] <sean> looks to me like the sudo stuff wasn't set up properly, the install did freeze at one point, and I had to manually reset
[12:32] <BEAR> ompaul, i know u dont understand cause my english is really bad///but said 2 me how change fonts in gnome///where is fonts location in ext3?
[12:32] <ompaul> BEAR, you may want to do this: from the menu: System -> Preferences -> Font
[12:32] <Madpilot> sean, sudo <command> + your own pw doesn't work?
[12:33] <sean> no it doesn't
[12:33] <NickGarve1> oh that happened with me sean
[12:33] <ompaul> BEAR, so you understand that ?
[12:33] <biovore> dejx: dose it work with a standard irc client?
[12:33] <NickGarve1> what did I do..
[12:33] <NickGarve1> I think I reinstalled
[12:33] <Ubunter> I have a netword card, listed in "device manager" but I don't have eth0 on net configuration.
[12:33] <BEAR> no results man ((( im tried
[12:33] <dejx> bilange, nevermind, really, can somebody else please help me
[12:33] <javiolo> is there any way to wake up my ubuntu at a certain hour ?
[12:33] <NickGarve1> oh I'd like to know that javiolo
[12:34] <BEAR> ompaul, no results, man ((( im tried
[12:34] <biovore> dejx: you'll be luck to find anyone who read the RFC on IRC
[12:34] <Madpilot> BEAR, at the top of your screen there are menus - click the "System" one, then choose "Preferences" then "Font" - adjust your fonts there
[12:34] <sean> jeez, i only installed ubuntu after 3 failed mepis installs today :(
[12:34] <BEAR> yes i know - no results
[12:34] <sean> new mepis version is buggy as hell
[12:34] <ompaul> BEAR, you tried that and it failed.
[12:35] <NickGarve1> mm
[12:35] <sean> is this going to be any better NickGarve1
[12:35] <rupan3> lol
[12:35] <CyCloBot> How do i know which module to pick for my cd rom?
[12:35] <NickGarve1> it worked for me sean
[12:35] <sean> shall I persevere
[12:35] <Jsm> is their a default root pw?
[12:35] <IdleOne> !tell Jsm  about root
[12:35] <Madpilot> Jsm, no. use sudo and your own user pw
[12:36] <rupan3> biovore: i read rfc1459.
[12:36] <javiolo> Nickgarvel let see if anyone here knows the answer :P
[12:36] <rupan3> lol
[12:36] <sean> which sometimes doesn't work
[12:36] <Jsm> mmk ok Ill use sudo iv never head of that
[12:36] <madgik85> sean: not sure exaclt how to do it but using visudo u can setup up permissions i think, might want to google that?
[12:36] <rupan3> Jsm: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[12:36] <rupan3> read around
[12:36] <luisdefreitas> hi everybody
[12:36] <rupan3> it will save you a lot of headaches
[12:36] <IdleOne> Jsm:  read the msg ubotu  sent you it will explain in greater detail
[12:36] <rupan3> a little bit of knowledge goes a long way
[12:37] <CyCloBot> rupan3: i skipped the the cdrom checl but it now asks for a module and device?
[12:37] <Jsm> idleone im checking the link it said
[12:37] <rupan3> hrm
[12:37] <Rob_Dude> Hi all
[12:37] <IdleOne> hello rob
[12:37] <sean> do all users get sudo privileges or just the first one
[12:37] <IdleOne> Rob_Dude:
[12:37] <Madpilot> sean, just the first one by default
[12:37] <x|c|c_> 4 example: im compiled new programm with clasical commands (make etc) and see windows of nu progrms with smallest fonts in tha galactic ((( n im cried
[12:38] <sean> oh well, better install again and see if it works this time
[12:38] <sean> nice gui though
[12:38] <sean> i'm used to kde
[12:38] <IdleOne> !enter
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[12:38] <maxkelley> sean: what gui?
[12:38] <Madpilot> sean, if it's a fresh install a reinstall might be easier than trying to fix the sudo mess :P
[12:39] <maxkelley> IdleOne: wow.. that bot makes everyone lazy.
[12:39] <sean> indeed, l8r
[12:39] <rupan3> CyCloBot: register your nick so you can recieve msgs (/msg nickserv register <password>)
[12:39] <luisdefreitas> why we cant use root
[12:39] <xcc> ompaul, 4 example: im compiled new programm with clasical commands (make etc) and see windows of nu progrms with smallest fonts in tha galactic ((( n im cried
[12:39] <luisdefreitas> i hate that
[12:39] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  makes us lazy how?
[12:39] <drasko> How to enable gnome sounds?
[12:39] <maxkelley> luisdefreitas: I don't know, why can't we?
[12:39] <Q_Continuum> maxkelley, it just lets us simplify the easy answers, so we can focus on the more thinking questions.
[12:39] <Rob_Dude> I'm having some connection/internet troubles.  I've edited my /etc/resolv.conf but it keeps getting changed.  For whatever reason, it lists 3 DNS servers in the file, but the first one doesn't work.  After I edit that file, I can surf the net fine, but without editiing, it seems like it tries the first DNS *every* time I try to resolve a hostname
[12:39] <maxkelley> IdleOne: it's not that hard to type out..
[12:39] <CyCloBot> ok, i'm registed
[12:39] <rupan3> luis you can, you just have to set it up
[12:39] <rupan3> ok
[12:39] <luisdefreitas> how
[12:39] <Madpilot> luisdefreitas, because sudo works just as well?
[12:39] <riddlebox> can someone tell me how to resolve this error? http://pastebin.com/575807
[12:39] <riddlebox> please
[12:39] <ompaul> BEAR, I only have one other idea. Start synaptic package manager, from the menu, System - Administration - Synaptic, and search for fonts
[12:40] <Madpilot> !tell luisdefreitas about sudo
[12:40] <javiolo> is there any way to wake up my ubuntu at a certain hour ?
[12:40] <jroes> heya, is there going to be any real difference in using a k7 kernel instead of a 386 kernel if you have an athlon processor, but you aren't doing SMP?
[12:40] <javiolo> !wake up
[12:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, javiolo
[12:40] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  so you mean Im lazy?
[12:40] <ompaul> BEAR, then try that gnome fonts button again
[12:40] <luisdefreitas> man am trying to see my windows partion
[12:40] <Unity> hey what is the best way to download all the files in a directory over http? even the ones not referenced by any links anywhere?
[12:40] <maxkelley> javiolo: look in your system bios.. not a ubuntu thing
[12:40] <drasko> Hmmm...
[12:40] <drasko> Ahem...
[12:40] <maxkelley> IdleOne: no.. just saying.
[12:40] <xcc> tell me plz 1 thing: where is fonts location in ext3?
[12:40] <Madpilot> jroes, the k7 will be able to use more than 900Mb of RAM, if you've got more than that
[12:40] <drasko> How to enable gnome sounds?
[12:40] <luisdefreitas> and i need root priv to change the user
[12:40] <IdleOne> !tell luisdefreitas  about mount
[12:40] <Q_Continuum> maxkelley, not all of us know all the locations for everything.  It lets us answer the question efficiently, and move on to the next question.
[12:40] <luisdefreitas> i know
[12:40] <jroes> Madpilot: oh, crap!  I do!  awesome, thanks :)
[12:40] <luisdefreitas> about mount
[12:40] <ompaul> xcc ==bear?
[12:40] <xcc> y
[12:40] <rupan3> Unity: wget --help
[12:41] <dejx> god
[12:41] <drasko> How to enable gnome sounds?
[12:41] <dejx> i'm dead
[12:41] <Madpilot> luisdefreitas, read the URL the bot just sent you
[12:41] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  the bot is there to be used as a tool and ppl smarter then me set it up so I figure i rather give the bots answer ()
[12:41] <dejx> :/
[12:41] <Unity> rupan3: thanks
[12:41] <drasko> Sounds in Gnome anyone?
[12:41] <Jsm> Drasko i think you need to get sound drivers
[12:41] <maxkelley> mkay
[12:41] <drasko> Can you hear these clicks?
[12:41] <IdleOne> ompaul:  yes
[12:41] <ompaul> xcc, I only have one other idea. Start synaptic package manager, from the menu, System - Administration - Synaptic, and search for fonts
[12:41] <javiolo> maxkelley I can do this with os x, is there any soft to do this? or only bios setup ?
[12:42] <drasko> Jsm, my sound works fine, just these Gnome sounds I don't hear...
[12:42] <ompaul> xcc, add what you can from there
[12:42] <Jsm> Drasko, ahh ;)
[12:42] <luisdefreitas> can we talk like privete
[12:42] <drasko> Jsm, mp3 works fine...
[12:42] <xcc> just install fonts? it must be principally russian fonts 4 my locale?
[12:42] <luisdefreitas> is too many thing running
[12:42] <maxkelley> javiolo: Mac's don't have a bios necessarily.. I think there's a way to hibernate the computer and have it wake up.. not sure.
[12:42] <ompaul> xcc, well you should find them there
[12:43] <maxkelley> since the OS is made by the same people that make the computer, they can interface the hardware better.
[12:43] <javiolo> maxkelley mac ppc doesnt have a bios they have something similar
[12:43] <drasko> Also does gnome-sound-properties, I can hesr sounds then. But where to enable sounds to hear them allways, like on loggoing in?
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> speaking of mac ppc
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> i have a problem booting from the cd
[12:43] <maxkelley> Is it EFI?
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> no
[12:43] <maxkelley> SoulPropagation: shoot.
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> it's an old G3
[12:43] <javiolo> SoulPropagation just press C
[12:43] <javiolo> oh
[12:43] <SoulPropagation> pre-imac
[12:43] <tim__> is there an ftp utility that installs with ubuntu
[12:43] <xcc> ompaul, thnk u richsoul man!
[12:44] <evilbulgarian> hi, how do i compile something that only has a config.m4?
[12:44] <Madpilot> drasko, check System menu -> Prefs -> Sound, make sure the "Enable Sound Server Startup" tickbox is checked
[12:44] <Rob_Dude> tim_:  'ftp' ?
[12:44] <maxkelley> tim__: I think gftp.. try typing it in a terminal
[12:44] <ompaul> xcc, da da, neit! I just try sometimes
[12:44] <maxkelley> either that or ftp.
[12:44] <ompaul> xcc, and no I do not speak russian :0
[12:44] <javiolo> SoulPropagation did you try to boot from open firmware ?
[12:44] <drasko> Madpilot, it is checked...
[12:44] <tim__> im looking for one like flash fxp
[12:44] <SoulPropagation> yes
[12:44] <rupan3> command line ftp is where its at hehe
[12:44] <xcc> ompaul u speak in koi-8r? )))
[12:44] <maxkelley> hehe
[12:44] <drasko> But Alsa seems to give problems...
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> i got into open firmware, and i did:
[12:45] <ompaul> xcc, neit :)
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> boot cd:,\install\yaboot
[12:45] <Rob_Dude> Does FireFox have built in ftp support?
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> and it didn't work
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> Rob_Dude: not uploading
[12:45] <maxkelley> Rob: no.. nautilus does.
[12:45] <IdleOne> Rob_Dude:  there is a ftp plugin for firefox
[12:45] <javiolo> SoulPropagation and ?
[12:45] <Rob_Dude> Cool, ty
[12:45] <xcc> ompaul u mean NET? (NO)
[12:45] <Rob_Dude> Er, what is Nautilus?  Another web-browser?
[12:45] <Mrono> anyone ever used powermated
[12:45] <xcc> DA?
[12:45] <Mrono> or gizmod
[12:45] <SoulPropagation> it ignored me and went to the 9.2 happy mac screen
[12:45] <ompaul> xcc, yes I mean no :)
[12:46] <SoulPropagation> and i tried this on ... 3 of em
[12:46] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: nautilus is the gnome file manager
[12:46] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, ty
[12:46] <SoulPropagation> brb
[12:46] <maxkelley> Places > connect to server (select ftp)
[12:46] <drasko> mp3 works, also does gnome-sound-properties, I can hear sounds then (which are available in Gnome). But where to enable sounds to hear them allways, like on logging in?
[12:46] <rupan3> nautilus rules..
[12:46] <tim__> fgftp didnt workin the command line
[12:46] <maxkelley> rupan3: posh.
[12:46] <xcc> ompaul i hope learn language in en-speaking mases
[12:46] <tim__> gftp i mean
[12:46] <marlun> I just installed ubuntu and for some reason I wasn't asked for keyboard language, I believe its set to an american keyboard now and I've got a swedish one. I went to Preferences > Keyboard, Layouts Tab, and removed the american layout and added the swedish one, but it didn\t help, the keys are still wrong. Any ideas?
[12:46] <IdleOne> tim_:  sudo apt-get install gftp
[12:46] <maxkelley> tim__: use ftp then :)
[12:47] <ssam> SoulPropagation, you might need bootx for that old a mac
[12:47] <rupan3> i should use nautilus instead of xffm
[12:47] <maxkelley> hmmm..
[12:47] <ompaul> xcc, stay here for a while and watch
[12:47] <rupan3> xffm is a bit of a pain.
[12:47] <simonbp> marlun: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:47] <maxkelley> rupan3: true..
[12:48] <mjr> 40
[12:48] <rupan3> anyone using any non-default file managers?
[12:48] <simonbp> marlun: may be tough to get through if your kb layout is wrong though. good luck
[12:48] <maxkelley> 41 :)
[12:48] <maxkelley> rupan3: xffm?
[12:48] <xcc> ompaul yeah! great support!
[12:48] <javiolo> SoulPropagation check the cd is well writen and redeable
[12:48] <rupan3> xffm is the default that comes with xfce4
[12:48] <maxkelley> hehe, it'd be funny if we had a little number display, where people take a ticket.
[12:49] <marlun> simonbp, thanks, i\ll try ") damn, cant even write a smiley
[12:49] <maxkelley> "Number 41!!"
[12:49] <anthony> what package do i have to install in order to get the little button that shuts down my laptop lcd display to work? (you know how when you close your laptop lid the lcd shuts down 'cause it touches the little button, well now it's not doing that, and i  did a server/clean install then built my own packages so i think there's something missing here)
[12:49] <ptivoiz1> bonne nuit
[12:49] <ompaul> xcc,  The people in here are volunteers.
[12:49] <rupan3> anthony: there are a lot of blogs out there written by laptop owners who run linux
[12:49] <maxkelley> anthony: we don't support all acpi sort of stuff.. by we, I mean ubuntu
[12:49] <maxkelley> anthony: google ubuntu 5.10 and <laptop model>
[12:50] <maxkelley> usually turns up good results.
[12:50] <rupan3> anthony: even  linux <laptop model>
[12:50] <Unity> rupan3: i tried to wget a directory but the only thing i got was an empty index.html and none of the files that i know for a fact are actually there
[12:50] <Rob_Dude> How do I edit/view/work with, environment variables?  I either need to change one, or recompile my kernal with a different version of gcc.  Which would be easier? ;)
[12:50] <dejx> http://pastebin.com/575822
[12:50] <dejx> what the heck?
[12:50] <rupan3> that's what i did for my hp laptop
[12:50] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: I think it's EXPORT <var>=<value> or something..
[12:50] <maxkelley> manpages! :)
[12:51] <Madpilot> dejx, try "sudo firestarter"
[12:51] <k31th> rupan3: this desktop is DOPE
[12:51] <xcc> today i have troubles with Quake 1.31 game install ((( im run th shell script and my stoppin like turtle half hour with no results
[12:51] <rupan3> Unity: try wget --help
[12:51] <maxkelley> dapper should have Xgl as an option
[12:51] <maxkelley> hey, lscd :)
[12:51] <rupan3> Unity: you have to set the right switches to recurse and download directories
[12:51] <k31th> rupan3: running xfce now :D
[12:52] <rupan3> k31th: its pretty sick huh
[12:52] <Ubunter> how to restart a network card on console?
[12:52] <k31th> yeah i like
[12:52] <maxkelley> Ubunter: sudo ifup --force ethx
[12:52] <rupan3> k31th: i love the look and feel and the fact that login to desktop takes about 2 seconds'
[12:52] <dejx> Madpilot, you maybe didnt see
[12:52] <maxkelley> where x is interface number
[12:52] <zax1> hey peeps
[12:52] <dejx> #
[12:52] <simonbp> ubunter: ifdown <interface name>; ifup <interface name>
[12:52] <Ubunter> thank you maxkelley :D
[12:52] <dejx> i'm root
[12:52] <zax1> wonder if nay one can help wit ha driver issue
[12:52] <xcc> zax1, alloha
[12:52] <zax1> hi xcc
[12:52] <maxkelley> simonbp: doesn't ifup --force do the same?
[12:53] <Ubunter> oh, shit. The problem is that I don't have interface number !!
[12:53] <Madpilot> dejx, ah, I missed that - I never use root...
[12:53] <maxkelley> Ubunter: well, what is it, ethernet?
[12:53] <Ubunter> yes
[12:53] <simonbp> maxkelly: meh. never tried it. now I will though.
[12:53] <dejx> where do i get those files?
[12:53] <maxkelley> do sudo ifconfig and find it in there
[12:53] <Unity> rupan3: i have set -r
[12:53] <Ubunter> no maxkelley, the card is not there
[12:53] <SoulPropagation> javiolo: i'm using a shipit
[12:54] <Unity> rupan3: is it possible that the server doen't want me to list the files under that directory?
[12:54] <Ubunter> but it appears in device manager :-/
[12:54] <zax1> what if i cant find a linux drivre for a device that works perfectly on windows and mac ?
[12:54] <zax1> what can i do to get it to work ?
[12:54] <maxkelley> Ubunter: odd. have you tried network-admin?
[12:54] <rupan3> Unity: dunno about that
[12:54] <Ubunter> how I do that?
[12:54] <rupan3> i still think you're missing a switch
[12:54] <maxkelley> zax1: it's hard for us to support all devices...
[12:54] <zax1> 4 sure
[12:54] <h3ax> Finally
[12:54] <maxkelley> Ubunter: tools > administration > network or something like that
[12:55] <javiolo> SoulPropagation ok I think once I tried to install ubuntu on a beige g3 but as I can remember something was wrong
[12:55] <zax1> are you saying that there is a posibility that i wont get it to work ?
[12:55] <maxkelley> zax1: big companies don't make drivers for linux, often.. what is the device?
[12:55] <Ubunter> yep, I supposed it.
[12:55] <mjr> zax1, not much generally, complain to the manufacturer
[12:55] <h3ax> i won the battle against opression from the VMware killer stuff
[12:55] <Ubunter> I only have modem
[12:55] <mjr> zax1, indeed
[12:55] <caroline> hi
[12:55] <zax1> hmm
[12:55] <caroline> everyone
[12:55] <Ubunter> hi
[12:55] <maxkelley> hiez!
[12:55] <Jae686> hi
[12:55] <caroline> what u talkin bout?
[12:55] <javiolo> SoulPropagation my next step is to install a *BSD
[12:55] <maxkelley> ubuntu :)
[12:55] <zax1> well its a comon enough device, it an ADSL USB modem, it uses a conexant chipset
[12:55] <caroline> hmm im not a computer geek r u?
[12:55] <maxkelley> zax1: all I can say is google
[12:56] <Ubunter> about the world an how to fix it :D
[12:56] <maxkelley> caroline: how did you end up here, then? :)
[12:56] <zax1> i am googled out
[12:56] <maxkelley> zax1: what is the brand?
[12:56] <caroline> i am on my laptop
[12:56] <mjr> zax1, one would generally suggest an ADSL modem that has an ethernet interface
[12:56] <zax1> the one i use is a TRUST
[12:56] <mjr> (but I don't know if that particular thing can be made to work anyways)
[12:56] <rupan3> Unity: i'm not sure but try -xrm
[12:56] <Madpilot> caroline, this is a tech support channel - if you just want to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:56] <SoulPropagation> hmm, well, i'm not experineced in *bsd, and it's just gonna be a lil fileserver for my school
[12:56] <zax1> its  model is md 3400
[12:56] <maxkelley> yeah, what mjr said is the best solution..
[12:56] <caroline> ? what what? whatever
[12:57] <xcc> how install deb from folder?
[12:57] <SoulPropagation> dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb
[12:57] <IdleOne> caroline:  this is a help channel if you wish to discuss other subjects besides Ubuntu linux then you can join #ubuntu-offtopic where you may chat about what you like
[12:57] <zax1> yes an ethernet modem would be better
[12:57] <xcc> SoulPropagation great thnx!
[12:57] <SoulPropagation> i love noobs. they have easy-to-answer questions
[12:57] <maxkelley> zax1: They're fairly cheap.. methinks :)
[12:57] <maxkelley> SoulPropagation: who doesn't :)
[12:57] <zax1> but... i am a system builder , and i want to start ship my machines with ubuntu.
[12:58] <zax1> the usb units are costing me much less
[12:58] <mikebot> hey, so, can someone help me via PM with dual booting my system?
[12:58] <SoulPropagation> maxkelley: you don't play games online do you
[12:58] <maxkelley> zax1: hire a coder :)
[12:58] <maxkelley> SoulPropagation: occasional bzflag, but no :)
[12:58] <riddlebox> can someone help me with this error? http://pastebin.com/575807
[12:58] <zax1> and part of the idea of using linux apart from the slavery issues to software companies, is the lower cost
[12:58] <Madpilot> mikebot, just ask here, you'll get better help
[12:58] <SoulPropagation> maxkelley: that explains it.
[12:58] <maxkelley> zax1: I understand your position
[12:58] <mikebot> okay well, it's kinda long, but...
[12:58] <mikebot> i tried to partition my drive like the tutorial said
[12:59] <maxkelley> riddlebox: I believe you have to apt-get install kernel-headers
[12:59] <mikebot> do i had: IDE1 master (hda) - 20.5 GB Maxtor
[12:59] <zax1> i know its beyond the scope of this channel, but how much would you say a coder will cost me? how big of a job is it ?
[12:59] <mikebot> *so
[12:59] <rupan3> mikebot: it should be pretty straight forward
[12:59] <mikebot> below that it said:
[12:59] <FliesLikeALap> zax1  it depends on the size of the job and what you want him to be doing and in what language
[12:59] <mikebot> #1 primary 20.5 GB (arrow here) (smiley here) NTFS
[12:59] <mikebot> below that it had:
[01:00] <mikebot> pri/log 8.2 MB FREE SPACE
[01:00] <mikebot> rupan3: yeah i know, but it didn't work
[01:00] <maxkelley> zax1: hehe.. you probably won't be able to find one  :)
[01:00] <riddlebox> maxkelley, I did apt-get install linux-headers-286?
[01:00] <SoulPropagation> zax1: you just want someone to set up a way to linux up a few custom boxes?
[01:00] <maxkelley> riddlebox: does it work now? :)
[01:00] <Jae686> 286?
[01:00] <riddlebox> maxkelley, no
[01:00] <purplefeltangel> HELP! krita keeps saying "error during autosave! partition full?" and then when i try to save it says THE SPECIFIED FOLDER DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS NOT READABLE
[01:00] <mikebot> so i went to the primary and tried to resize it and it didn't work
[01:00] <mikebot> it said it failed both times i tried to
[01:00] <zax1> i dont know, i am getting confused with all thisese lines boucing at me,
[01:00] <maxkelley> riddlebox: what system are you using this on?
[01:00] <zax1> i basiclay want to find a driver
[01:01] <maxkelley> zax1: who isn't? :)
[01:01] <amonkey> i just installed flight 4, but grub won't boot. it errors out 15: file not found. any ideas?
[01:01] <zax1> or a way for me to use the stock of usb modems i have
[01:01] <riddlebox> maxkelley, what do you mean?
[01:01] <zax1> instead of buying eth modems
[01:01] <IdleOne> purplefeltangel:  try #kubuntu they can help with krita
[01:01] <maxkelley> zax1: it's hard to find drivers sometimes.. a lot of more hardware should be supported in the next release. hopefully.
[01:01] <maxkelley> riddlebox: like, processor
[01:01] <purplefeltangel> idleone: already asked there nobody's answering.
[01:01] <Madpilot> amonkey, ask on #ubuntu+1 for Dapper stuff
[01:01] <alexwillmer> Does anyone knoww which software drives wiki.ubuntu.com?
[01:01] <rupan3> amonkey: your /boot is screwed
[01:01] <maxkelley> purplefeltangel: what was your question?
[01:02] <SoulPropagation> purplefeltangel: try re-saving
[01:02] <Madpilot> alexwillmer, MoinMoin is the wiki engine
[01:02] <riddlebox> AMD Athlon 2600
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> maxkelley:
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> ompaul sorush20, it is (A) old (B) there is big difference between a virus and a worm, #
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> ompaul
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> ompaul September 18, 2002 it died in a couple of days iirc
[01:02] <avu> hi
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> oops :S what was that?
[01:02] <zax1> right, so in your  opion how long of a job is it to write a linux driver for a usb modem, a basic interface-nothing fancy
[01:02] <mikebot> so in short it failed at partitioning my harddrive, is there another way i can get ubuntu to work?
[01:02] <ompaul> you pasteing
[01:02] <maxkelley> riddlebox: it shouldn't be 286 then..
[01:02] <maxkelley> zax1: it depends how locked up it is.
[01:02] <purplefeltangel> maxkelley: HELP! krita keeps saying "error during autosave! partition full?" and then when i try to save it says THE SPECIFIED FOLDER DOES NOT EXIST OR WAS NOT READABLE.
[01:02] <alexwillmer> Madpilot: thankyou, that makes sense with all the other python happenings
[01:02] <maxkelley> zax1: google for ndiswrapper... it sometimes has help with that.
[01:02] <zax1> how locked up ? what do u mean ?
[01:02] <riddlebox> maxkelley, it isnt
[01:02] <maxkelley> purplefeltangel: hmmm
[01:03] <maxkelley> zax1: how secured the manufacturer made it, as in how hard it is to figure out how the insides work.
[01:03] <maxkelley> IdleOne: nice try :)
[01:03] <avu> Part of my music collection is in "strange" formats like m4a, wmv or ogg, is there any program which conviniently converts these to mp3 while/before sending them to my USB mp3 player?
[01:03] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  just wanted to see if anybody caught it :P
[01:04] <maxkelley> IdleOne: I was going through it... thinking.. that's strange...
[01:04] <IdleOne> hahah
[01:04] <maxkelley> avu: google?
[01:04] <amonkey> avu, amarok now features that. atleast the svn version does
[01:04] <maxkelley> normally, chanserv gets pissed at you.. :)
[01:04] <Madpilot> avu, Audacity
[01:04] <mikebot> can you play mp3s in ubuntu if they are on an ntfs?
[01:05] <maxkelley> mikebot: mount the partition.
[01:05] <ompaul> maxkelley, or ops do when bad langauge is used, more so in this channel than anywhere else, we have this thing called the CoC
[01:05] <mikebot> maxkelley: i don't know how
[01:05] <maxkelley> ompaul: for what?
[01:05] <ompaul> its a code of conduct
[01:05] <maxkelley> mikebot: mkdir /media/ntfs
[01:05] <IdleOne> maxkelley:  you meant that chanserv gets angry and not ...
[01:05] <FlannelKing> ntiagntiagntiagntiagntiagntiag16:03 -!- console_ [n=console@cornelyn.force9.co.uk]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 
[01:05] <maxkelley> mikebot: mount -t ntfs /dev/<drive> /media/ntfs
[01:05] <mikebot> maxkelley: i don't know what that means
[01:06] <ompaul> IdleOne, well put
[01:06] <FlannelKing> 16:03 -!- console_ [n=console@cornelyn.force9.co.uk]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 
[01:06] <FlannelKing> 16:03 -!- console_ [n=console@cornelyn.force9.co.uk]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 
[01:06] <FlannelKing> erm
[01:06] <maxkelley> mikebot: it's commands..
[01:06] <FlannelKing> oops
[01:06] <FlannelKing> 16:03 -!- console_ [n=console@cornelyn.force9.co.uk]  has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 
[01:06] <mikebot> maxkelley: commands in what?
[01:06] <FlannelKing> ack
[01:06] <maxkelley> FlannelKing: you better be sorry!! :P
[01:06] <ompaul> FlannelKing, stop
[01:06] <maxkelley> mikebot: the terminal..
[01:06] <mikebot> maxkelley: what terminal?
[01:06] <zax1> maxkelly, that ndis looks very promising
[01:06] <zax1> thanks will investigate
[01:06] <FlannelKing> sorry, putty and fullscreen and trying to click to get back to non fullscreen ;)
[01:06] <maxkelley> zax1: good to be of any help
[01:07] <maxkelley> mikebot: Applications > accessories > terminal..
[01:07] <riddlebox> maxkelley, I just cannot get that to compile
[01:07] <maxkelley> you need to be root, first
[01:07] <mikebot> maxkelley: i'm not running ubuntu
[01:07] <maxkelley> mikebot: well why are you asking in here?
[01:07] <IdleOne> lmfao
[01:07] <maxkelley> someone bash it :)
[01:07] <IdleOne> !lart me
[01:07] <mikebot> maxkelley: because i'm trying to get the ubuntu instlal disc to partition my drive...i don't know where else i would ask for help on that
[01:07] <IdleOne> mikebot:  you can download it
[01:08] <IdleOne> www.ubuntu.com
[01:08] <Rob_Dude> I'm not sure if someone just asked this - but I need the path to the directory with the C header files that match my running Kernel...and I don't know what to do ;)
[01:08] <maxkelley> mikebot: erm.. so, what does listening to mp3's have to do with partitioning?
[01:08] <mikebot> IdleOne: i have the disc
[01:08] <purplefeltangel> mikebot: i partitioned my hard drive with the LiveCD.
[01:08] <mikebot> IdleOne: but when i rant he setup, it asked to aprtition a harddrive
[01:08] <mikebot> and i'm trying to do a dual boot thing
[01:08] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: i think it's something like.. /lib/modules/ something :)
[01:08] <h3ax> mmm
[01:08] <mikebot> purplefeltangel:  livecd, is that free?
[01:08] <purplefeltangel> mikebot: yes.
[01:08] <mikebot> purplefeltangel: /stable?
[01:08] <IdleOne> mikebot:  you have windows on that hd right?
[01:08] <mikebot> purplefeltangel: okay thanks
[01:09] <mikebot> IdleOne: yes
[01:09] <Morfosomo> mikebot, you have the install cd?
[01:09] <h3ax> how do i change the keyboard to become danish and keep the interface English/american or is that even possible ?
[01:09] <mikebot> Morfosomo: yes
[01:09] <IdleOne> mikebot:  when you get to the partitioning part choose use free space
[01:09] <maxkelley> mikebot: you should be able to create an extra partition with the extra space
[01:09] <avu> amonkey: thanks, I would like a sneak peak at 1.4 anyway, so I guess I will give it a try. Any idea if 1.4beta1 also features this already? It's not really clear to me from the changelogs.
[01:09] <mikebot> i only have 8.2 mb of free space
[01:09] <maxkelley> h3ax: you should be able too.
[01:09] <mikebot> it says
[01:09] <mikebot> and 20.5 gb of ntfs
[01:10] <Morfosomo> mikebot do you have any partitioning software in your original os?
[01:10] <mikebot> but my c: drive is only using like 12gb
[01:10] <maxkelley> mikebot: well, you won't be able to install ubuntu then :) unless you overwrite your windows partition.
[01:10] <IdleOne> mike4263:  you may want to consider archiving some of them mp3's onto cd to make some room
[01:10] <mikebot> i have partition magic somewhere
[01:10] <IdleOne> mikebot:
[01:10] <IdleOne> ^
[01:10] <sdquinn> Question.
[01:10] <wastrel> mikebot:  did you defragment your ntfs drive?
[01:10] <mikebot> IdleOne: all my mp3s and crap are on my other internal slave hdd
[01:10] <maxkelley> posh.. florida stole my IP block.
[01:10] <sdquinn> My ubuntu install, 5.10, cannot contact the CUPS server and thereinwhich cannot print.
[01:10] <mikebot> wastrel: no, it takes a long time
[01:10] <maxkelley> mikebot: if you want to get rid of windows, install ubuntu on the master
[01:10] <mikebot> maxkelley: no, i want to be able to use both
[01:11] <maxkelley> mikebot: you need to reformat your partition from within windows, I think.
[01:11] <HammerBlade2020> hunting momars
[01:11] <Morfosomo> mikebot,.. you got to make available at least 10gb of hard disk for your install,. can install on less but thats just a recomendation
[01:11] <wastrel> mikebot:  at least when i did it, in order to shrink my windows partition, i had to defrag the drive first
[01:11] <maxkelley> Morfosomo: I have about 5  :P
[01:11] <IdleOne> mikebot:  if you dont need windows then format it and install ubuntu
[01:11] <maxkelley> dejx: nice hostmask :)
[01:11] <maxkelley> IdleOne: he needs windoze.
[01:12] <luimus> Vaffanculo REX
[01:12] <mikebot> okay
[01:12] <mikebot> i'm going to try to find my partition magic
[01:12] <luimus> Vaffanculo Loz
[01:12] <mikebot> and then ask for more help
[01:12] <mikebot> brb
[01:12] <rupan3> mikebot: defrag, boot cd, partition, reboot.  boot windows, chkdisk, defrag, boot cd, partition, reboot.  until you have enough space
[01:12] <IdleOne> luimus:  please dont use that language
[01:12] <dejx> maxkelley, thank you, if you need, query me
[01:12] <mikebot> rupan3: haha that makes it sound very easy
[01:12] <caroline> where can i just chat?
[01:12] <mzinz> Whats the cmd to see info about my system?
[01:12] <maxkelley> dejx: nah.
[01:12] <maxkelley> caroline: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <luimus> I'm sorry cugliuniiii
[01:13] <Madpilot> caroline, type '/join #ubuntu-offtopic' without the quotes
[01:13] <Morfosomo> you could 1) use partition magic to resize your c drive and then use "use free space " during instalation" or 2) back up all your data,.. use the windows instalation to erase all formating and do a 10 gb drive and install there then use the ubuntu again to use freed space
[01:13] <eli> hello everyone, anyone familiar with sh installs? im about done with the installation, but it now asks for the location of the java files
[01:13] <maxkelley> caroline: or any other channel they don't mind having you chat.
[01:13] <dejx> we had this project in school about coding, and all names in my language was taken
[01:13] <luimus> Ciao eli!!
[01:13] <dejx> and coding.org, so i gave NULL on o
[01:13] <loz> does anybody know how to get the amazing x j l for ubunot, or how to install?
[01:13] <eli> hola luimis ;)
[01:13] <Madpilot> mzinz, which info do you want?
[01:14] <maxkelley> loz: Xgl you mean?
[01:14] <loz> is it poss to install xjl for ubuntu?
[01:14] <mzinz> Madpilot, like cpu, ram, etc
[01:14] <koloa> anyone know of a c compiler? apt-get????
[01:14] <eli> xgl, good stuff
[01:14] <koloa> i need to configure mysql and ruby
[01:14] <lscd> koke: gcc
[01:14] <lscd> koloa, even
[01:14] <loz> xgl makes me wet myself!
[01:14] <Madpilot> koloa, build-essential
[01:14] <Madpilot> !b-e
[01:14] <ubotu> I guess b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[01:14] <koloa> apt-get build0essential?
[01:14] <maxkelley> loz: I'm happy to hear that. Please look in synaptic.
[01:15] <loz> thx
[01:15] <Madpilot> mzinz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands <-- see the System Commands section
[01:15] <rupan3> mikebot: it should be pretty easy
[01:15] <loz> lol
[01:15] <rupan3> mikebot: unless something goes wrong ;)
[01:15] <Madpilot> koloa, build-essential
[01:15] <loz> we can't seem to install it
[01:15] <maxkelley> loz: how absolutely pleasant. may I get you a paper towel?
[01:15] <loz> yup
[01:15] <dejx> how do i disable root account?
[01:16] <dejx> sudo passwd -l root ?
[01:16] <rupan3> it's disabled by default
[01:16] <Madpilot> !tell dejx about root
[01:16] <maxkelley> loz: do you have the universe, multiverse, and restricted repositories enabled?
[01:16] <dejx> jea but i enabled it.
[01:16] <rupan3> oops
[01:16] <rupan3> hehe
[01:16] <maxkelley> dejx: since when was it disabled? I never knew that..
[01:16] <loz> no
[01:16] <maxkelley> loz: well then, enabled them :0
[01:16] <maxkelley> *enabled.
[01:16] <Madpilot> dejx, check the RootSudo wiki page, it's got disabling instructions
[01:16] <maxkelley> bah, you know what I mean.
[01:17] <bonbon> i am trying to mount a hard disk ide using things command :  sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb /mnt/new
[01:17] <bonbon>    it gives me thing error :mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/new busy
[01:17] <bonbon>  - i have formated the drive already (ext2) and it has stuff on it
[01:17] <maxkelley> why would you disable root? that's dumb..
[01:17] <loz> thx
[01:17] <IdleOne> !mount
[01:17] <ubotu> well, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:17] <dejx> maxkelley, i dont need it.
[01:17] <maxkelley> dejx: werd.
[01:17] <IdleOne> !tell maxkelley  about root
[01:17] <ompaul> dejx, okay you may have done that we don't encourage people to do that - sudo kjust works and enabling the root password has side effects
[01:17] <amphi> bonbon: you have a shell or something using /mnt/new ?
[01:18] <amphi> bonbon: mount with no args will show what's mounted and where
[01:18] <lscd>  maxkelley: disabling root isn't really dumb - osx does it by default as well
[01:18] <ompaul> maxkelley, it ain't weird, its how we do stuff in Ubuntu and it just works :)(
[01:18] <maxkelley> Madpilot: I'm so glad we know, now.
[01:18] <maxkelley> lscd: well, in that case, I'm dumb :)
[01:18] <ompaul> maxkelley, you just did not know that is all
[01:18] <Ubunter> I have the next error while booting, I guess thats why my net card isn't workin: <<<ne2k-pci: probe of 0000:00:0c failed with error -16>>>
[01:18] <Morg> Everyone: When someone wanders in here and has problem with their hardware, your first response shouldn't just be "Go buy new hardware."
[01:18] <dejx> jea
[01:18] <IdleOne> ompaul:  well put
[01:19] <dejx> i didnt know i can use user's password for sudo
[01:19] <IdleOne> heh
[01:19] <ompaul> IdleOne, I do try
[01:19] <lscd> Morg: will you offer to buy new hardware for them instead? ;)
[01:19] <ompaul> dejx, only the first user that is on the machine
[01:19] <blanky> hey guys
[01:19] <blanky> nevermind
[01:19] <Morg> lscd: Uhh, no, I'd either stfu or elaborate.
[01:19] <lscd> ompaul: not those in the wheel group?
[01:19] <blanky> is there an ubuntu development channel
[01:19] <IdleOne> blanky:  done ()
[01:20] <maxkelley> blanky: topic.
[01:20] <blanky> IdleOne, done?
[01:20] <anthony> !w32
[01:20] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, anthony
[01:20] <amphi> !w32codecs
[01:20] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:20] <IdleOne> blanky:  you said never mind
[01:20] <ompaul> lscd, not using wheel admin, and then it works, but it is all onthat page
[01:20] <anthony> amphi: thanks =)
[01:20] <bonbon> amphi: it doesnt say that hdb is mounted
[01:20] <uein> how to make a lilo CD boot ?
[01:21] <Morg> Twice now a friend of mine has come in here asking for help on his sound card. Twice he's just been told "go buy a cheap PCI card" and that's it. This doesn't help when you're trying to GET SOMEONE TO SWITCH.
[01:21] <freebse> hi, i got a problem with gcc4.0 ubuntu package (i guess it is broken)... it links wrong (manually edited that) and still not working, the only sollution I found is using the gcc4.0 from debian US
[01:21] <IdleOne> Morg:  who said that to him?
[01:21] <freebse> Morg: if it is an onboard chip it can not be supported at all, so this is only the trutrh not rude behavior
[01:22] <maxkelley> Morg: we're not a help desk really.. we're just volunteers, and ubuntu can't cover all hardware..
[01:22] <amphi> bonbon: hdb is a disk, not a partition
[01:22] <blanky> hey, I asked in #mono but no one's there, I want to know if monodevelop has any WYSIWYG, GLADE like editing for C# window applications
[01:22] <Morg> freebse: I have an onboard chip that works fine, thanks
[01:22] <freebse> in this case alsa does not cover this hardware...
[01:22] <maxkelley> freebse: me too:)
[01:22] <ompaul> Morg, different chips different machines
[01:22] <Morg> IdleOne: Seyekoh was the first one
[01:22] <optish> hi guys
[01:22] <ompaul> Morg, different chips same machine
[01:22] <Morg> ompaul: Yes. I was just pointing out that his assertion was wrong.
[01:22] <freebse> and Morg, I do too, but this is no gurantee that it works all the time
[01:22] <irvken> took an hour to install gaian, but sudo works now
[01:23] <irvken> again
[01:23] <irvken> going to take some getting used to though
[01:23] <IdleOne> Morg:  it's possible they tried to help him and couldnt get it working ..granted telling him to buy a cheap card may not have been the right answer but I dont think it was meant to be mean or anything
[01:23] <diGVargur> hello a litl help
 samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop$ /.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static -p conf.hub
[01:23] <diGVargur> [00:21]  <diGVargur> bash: /.psotnic-0.2.5-linux-static: No such file or directory
[01:23] <dejx> dejx@notebook:~$ sudo passwd -l root
[01:23] <dejx> Password changed.
[01:23] <diGVargur> why?
[01:23] <Unity> so many ppl pasting!
[01:23] <Morg> IdleOne: No, the first response to his question was simply "Seyekoh: $15 SBLive PCI card"
[01:23] <brenner> diGVargur: ./ not /.
[01:23] <maxkelley> diGVargur: please don't paste.
[01:24] <dejx> sorry !
[01:24] <irvken> right now to see if I get get all my old mepis files back
[01:24] <optish> is it possible with samba to have user level security but still have a share that is public that does not prompt for a username/password?
[01:24] <maxkelley> Morg: yes.. I hate when people do that. What exactly is the card?
[01:24] <ompaul> Morg, when it can't be done that is usually a fast solution that works,  if he wants to pay someone to code that particular card, but the card for a new user is usually the most cost effective way, in terms of their frustration and other peoples ability to help, by any chance did you get it working?
[01:24] <IdleOne> Morg:  well Im not the official Ubuntu anything but I apologise for that answer on behalf of everybody who is trying to help
[01:24] <freebse> IdleOne: exactly this is the case, b.t.w. if someone start bit''''g at ppl for not working hardware, this is only fair to tell him to get new one
[01:24] <Morg> maxkelley: Realtek ALC650 6 Ch with built-in HP amplifier Integrated APU
[01:24] <mikebot> okay, i got the ntfs down to only 12 gb, do i want to amke the new partition for ubuntu ntfs as well?
[01:24] <irvken> how do i upgrade firefox
[01:24] <dejx> network-admin is very cool, is anythink like that for console ?
[01:24] <alteroo> Does the ubuntu installer resize partitions non-destructively?
[01:24] <maxkelley> Morg: google it.
[01:24] <dejx> not-gui?
[01:24] <mikebot> and the 500mb swap one?
[01:24] <Morg> IdleOne: Well, thanks for letting me vent anyway. :)
[01:25] <wastrel> ubotu tell irvken about firefox1.5
[01:25] <maxkelley> mikebot: no...
[01:25] <DShepherd> Does the ubuntu installer resize partitions non-destructively?
[01:25] <maxkelley> mikebot: you can't.
[01:25] <mikebot> maxkelley: what do i want it fat32 or soemthing?
[01:25] <maxkelley> DShepherd: I don't believe so.
[01:25] <rupan3> DShepherd: it worked for me
[01:25] <maxkelley> mikebot: the default, ext3
[01:25] <IdleOne> Morg:  np dude but next time and I hope there isnt a next time come to #ubuntu-offtopic where the situation can be resolved in a quiter channel ()
[01:25] <rupan3> i still have a usable windows xp partition
[01:25] <maxkelley> rupan3: oh.. well then.
[01:25] <DShepherd> rupan3: what version of ubuntu were you using?
[01:26] <rupan3> until i get all the useful files off of it, that is
[01:26] <mikebot> maxkelley:  cluster size
[01:26] <rupan3> breezy
[01:26] <maxkelley> mikebot: eh?
[01:26] <freebse> whatever argghhh
[01:26] <DShepherd> maxkelley: have you ever tried?
[01:26] <ompaul> IdleOne, its only quite when your there, we all talk about you when your gone :)
[01:26] <maxkelley> DShepherd: well, um. I think so :P
[01:26] <IdleOne> freebse:  lets drop it and get back to helping ppl ()
[01:26] <mzinz> Is it normal that update-notifier, and notifier-ar take up nearly 45% of my resources sometimes?
[01:26] <DShepherd> rupan3: I wonder if dapper does it too?
[01:26] <IdleOne> ompaul:  I know
[01:26] <IdleOne> :p
[01:26] <maxkelley> hey svara
[01:26] <mzinz> Should I kill the processes?
[01:26] <mikebot> maxkelley: wait, so on my hd, i'm going to have 3 partitions, one ofr windows (ntfs), one for linux (ext3), and one for swap(ext3)?
[01:26] <DShepherd> maxkelley: you thinks so :-P
[01:26] <DShepherd> ?
[01:27] <Morg> IdleOne: Well, I wasn't just coming here to shout into my pillow. I was hoping the last person who made this kind of remake realized they were losing potential Linux converts.
[01:27] <maxkelley> mikebot: mkay :)
[01:27] <Prohibited> Hi, I use ubuntu to run my servers and stuff.. at times I can log in like text-based so it doesn't load any programs, Ic an just load what I need and it doesn't take up as much memory.. how do I do this again
[01:27] <rupan3> DShepherd: i just did a nuke and pave on my laptop, but on my desktop i partitioned off half of teh master drive and installed ubuntu on it
[01:27] <maxkelley> DShepherd: heeh, yeah ;)
[01:27] <Morg> *remark
[01:27] <mikebot> maxkelley: is that right?
[01:27] <freebse> IdleOne: ya well sorry but I know the whole story... anyway let's forget it
[01:27] <mzinz> How do you kill processes?
[01:27] <Rob_Dude> How can I see what kernel I'm running?
[01:27] <maxkelley> mikebot: whatever you want..
[01:27] <rupan3> the windows partition still boots, through GRUB
[01:27] <anthony> between mplayer and  vlc, which one(s) work [better]  with embedded wmv/quicktime/real files?
[01:27] <DShepherd> rupan3:  oh ok
[01:27] <amphi> Rob_Dude: uname -r
[01:27] <freebse> mzinz: ps -e and pick the prozess and kill (prozess-no)
[01:27] <irvken> wastrel, jeez that's a fair amount of work, can't I just use synaptic?
[01:27] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: uname -a
[01:27] <Rob_Dude> ty
[01:27] <wastrel> irvken:  not on breezy
[01:27] <rupan3> anthony: i like vlc for everything, but i don't really know mplayer too well
[01:28] <irvken> what is breezy?
[01:28] <mikebot> okay, let's see if this works
[01:28] <mzinz> freebse, is it strange that update-notifier and notifier-ar are taking up 45% of my resources?
[01:28] <lscd> i generally use mplayer; it can be quirky, but when it works, it tends to work well
[01:28] <wastrel> irvken:  the current stable version of ubuntu is code-named breezy badger
[01:28] <anthony> rupan3: okay, thank you
[01:28] <Prohibited> Someone help me- Hi, I use ubuntu to run my servers and stuff.. at times I can log in like text-based so it doesn't load any programs, Ic an just load what I need and it doesn't take up as much memory.. how do I do this again
[01:28] <maxkelley> irvken: the latest ubuntu ver (stable)
[01:28] <bonbon> amphi: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[01:28] <bonbon>        missing codepage or other error
[01:28] <bonbon>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:28] <bonbon>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:28] <navarone> mikebot if you are planning on sharing files between ubuntu and windows you may want to consider making a fat32 partition as well so you can do so
[01:28] <blanky> hey guys what's the one thing, hardlink? to make my stuff faster cuase ubuntu is FRICKIN SLOW
[01:28] <blanky> !hardlink
[01:28] <ubotu> blanky: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:28] <irvken> is that 5.10 ?
[01:28] <blanky> !hotlink
[01:28] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, blanky
[01:28] <ompaul> bonbon, don't paste in the channel
[01:28] <freebse> mzinz: it is when not having a PI 133Mhz :)
[01:28] <amphi> bonbon: what is /dev/hdb1 ?
[01:28] <wastrel> Prohibited:  remove gdm maybe
[01:28] <irvken> I thought that was hoarry or hoarty or something
[01:29] <freebse> mzinz: but this can also be temporary
[01:29] <maxkelley> irvken: er. whatever :)
[01:29] <mikebot> fuck i have a bad feeling about this
[01:29] <maxkelley> bbl
[01:29] <wastrel> irvken:  hoary is the previous version, breezy is the current one.
[01:29] <mikebot> okay brb
[01:29] <ompaul> irvken, 5.10 is the latest release version
[01:29] <mikebot> has to reboot
[01:29] <rupan3> blanky: forget gnome and install xfce4
[01:29] <bonbon> amphi: my second hard disk
[01:29] <ompaul> mikebot, Language Please
[01:29] <uein> how to make a lilo CD boot ?
[01:29] <blanky> rupan3, lol thanks
[01:29] <blanky> i'll try kde though
[01:29] <irvken> ompaul, indeed that seemed to be the most uptodate version on the downloads section of the website
[01:30] <rupan3> blanky: rofl
[01:30] <mangelo> hios all, i got a quick questionioes, concerning (what i think) is windows domain controllers, and ubuntu
[01:30] <Rob_Dude> Geez...70mb for linux headers?
[01:30] <blanky> rupan3, :)
[01:30] <rupan3> blanky: gnome is too slow on your computer, and you're going to run KDE?
[01:30] <Rob_Dude> That's a lot of code :)
[01:30] <irvken> how do i know if it's breezy or hoary?
[01:30] <xcc> 2 troubles with fluxbox: libimlib2 not installed and cant find menu
[01:30] <blanky> hey guys what's the command in linux to run python, #!/bin/python ?
[01:30] <ompaul> blanky, in a script?
[01:31] <wastrel> irvken:  lsb_release -a
[01:31] <mjr> blanky, generally python resides in /usr/bin
[01:31] <blanky> rupan3, ubuntu is slow period, it's always been the same. I have a +2500 AMD Barton, 512MB DDR, 40 GBs, and an ATI 9800 Pro, might not be the latest but even windows runs faster
[01:31] <IdleOne> xcc:  right click on the desktop
[01:31] <irvken> oh right, I've got it
[01:31] <blanky> thanks mjr
[01:31] <irvken> breezy it is then
[01:31] <xcc> 2please help! i have troubles with fluxbox: libimlib2 not installed and cant find menu...
[01:31] <ompaul> blanky, /usr/bin/python -=-- you can find this with which python
[01:31] <rupan3> blanky: something's got to be wrong there
[01:31] <blanky> rupan3, at first I thought it was a vid card problem but it isn't, cuase my 3d programs run fine
[01:31] <mjr> blanky, though sometimes the trick #!/usr/bin/env python is used
[01:31] <irvken> I think I'll leave the firefox update to tomorrow
[01:31] <zipper> !dapper
[01:31] <mjr> blanky, (env searches for python in the path)
[01:31] <blanky> rupan3, please help me cuase I've been trying to fix this forever!
[01:31] <mzinz> freebse, haha.
[01:31] <blanky> thanks ompaul and mjr
[01:32] <irvken> 5 linux installs in one day to get a working one is enough for me, don't want to break it yet
[01:32] <blanky> rupan3, ?
[01:32] <ompaul> blanky, np
[01:32] <xcc> IdleOne, i do it )
[01:32] <Unity> irvken: how did that happen?
[01:32] <rupan3> blanky: i've been running xfce4 and my 2.4ghz fast as lightning with 512mb DDR on a 80 gig drive it shares half of with XP
[01:32] <IdleOne> xcc:  it work?
[01:33] <blanky> rupan3, exactly, and does GNOME or KDE run fine on your pc?
[01:33] <xcc> yes but flux box is not installin'
[01:33] <Unity> i like it when nerds feel the need to show off their hardware for no reason. "so i was writing my essay on my 3.8 GHZ 4 GIG RAM 500 GIG HDD"
[01:33] <rupan3> blanky: they run alright, but not impressively quick
[01:33] <blanky> exactly :'(
[01:33] <IdleOne> !fluxbox
[01:33] <ubotu> methinks fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[01:33] <rupan3> blanky: xfce runs like a crack dealer from the cops
[01:33] <irvken> I attempted to upgrade my 18 month old mepis install this morning and broke it to the point I caouldn't recover it, so I then atwice attempted to install the new version of mepis
[01:33] <blanky> so much for frickin linux being faster, oh well I'm not fighting, dont wanna start a fight :(
[01:34] <IdleOne> dinner time!
[01:34] <navarone> rupan3, yeah I find xfce pretty fast too...and I'm on a Athlon 1.2ghz w/512 ram...and it's not that hard to make it seem pretty much like gnome anyway <s>
[01:34] <blanky> rupan3, yeah but I thought that gnome or kde should run fine on such a pc
[01:34] <irvken> which is very buggy
[01:34] <rupan3> yeah it does run fine
[01:34] <mangelo> im using ubuntu (debian..kernel 2.6.xxx i forget exact numbers). and im setting up a server for a windows based lan (w/ an ubuntu box as the fserver)
 i can connect via putty, and ssh, but how do i configure the windows domain controllers (is that what i need to fix?) in order to have windows recognize it as a network drive
[01:34] <rupan3> blanky: do you have any swap set up?
[01:34] <irvken> after discussion with lilo no less (among others) I thought I'd give ubuntu a try
[01:34] <wastrel> blanky:  upgrading to firefox 1.5 will speed up your web browsing too.  the ff 1.0.7 in breezy is dog slow for some reason
[01:34] <flix> im using synaptic to install kdelibs4-dev, but it tells me "Depends: kdelibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed", and then when I try to install that same error occurs for other packages... it never ends, how can I make synaptic download everything it needs to be downloaded so I can be set to download kdebase-dev package?
[01:34] <mzinz> Is it possible to make a ls -l to connect/disconnect my LAN / WLAN connections?
[01:34] <irvken> but the first time didn't work and this is the second
[01:35] <irvken> which seems ok
[01:35] <blanky> rupan3, like 500 mbs I think, or was it 1.5 gigs, how cna i check?
[01:35] <rupan3> navarone: with all the themes and stuff, my xfce looks way sicker than i could have made gnome look
[01:35] <Unity> irvken: you might have a hard time accidentally breaking ubuntu
[01:35] <dyrne> blanky, for faster less memory etc install xubuntu as alternative to gnome
[01:35] <rupan3> navarone: i've got it tricked out like a mexican lowrider
[01:35] <k31th> rupan3: well happy with this deskto p
[01:35] <blanky> wastrel, kay thanks
[01:35] <amphi> mangelo: you need samba
[01:35] <rupan3> k31th: good to hear it :)
[01:35] <blanky> dyrne, thanks sir, but I thought that with linux, with all the 'its fast!' buzz going around, I'd be able to run gnome or kde adequately
[01:35] <brenner> rupan3: screenshot?
[01:35] <navarone> ruapn I am not too concerned with the look really...I try to keep things a bit darker to save the eyes though...but no big transparency or other effects
[01:36] <navarone> rupan does it bounce at a button push? lol
[01:36] <wastrel> ubotu:  tell blanky about ff1.5
[01:36] <xcc> IdleOne, u undstnd me? i have fluxbox.deb only and which apt-get install libimlib2 i have no effect and dont find 'menu' for this manager
[01:36] <irvken> biab, just going to try and mount the old drive with all my files on it
[01:36] <k31th> blanky: go use windows ME thats alot faster than linux
[01:37] <amphi> blanky: on what hw?
[01:37] <blanky> k31th, you're right
[01:37] <Dagda> haha
[01:37] <k31th> no i was actually taking the piss
[01:37] <flix> please, anyone?
[01:37] <rupan3> navarone: it will once i can figure out how to stick luminocity on here and stay with my gtk/xfwm themes
[01:37] <ompaul> k31th, please
[01:37] <k31th> blanky: wat did u expect ?
[01:37] <blanky> amphi, +2500 AMD Barton, 512MB DDR, 40 GBs, ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128mb
[01:37] <flix> im using synaptic to install kdelibs4-dev, but it tells me "Depends: kdelibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed", and then when I try to install that same error occurs for other packages... it never ends, how can I make synaptic download everything it needs to be downloaded so I can be set to download kdebase-dev package?
[01:37] <khafra> I just installed 64 bit Ubuntu, and have found that my MX 1000 stops responding randomly 'til I unplug and replug it.  Could this be a 64 specific driver issue?
[01:37] <blanky> at first I thought it was a vid card prob but i guess it aint
[01:37] <LiteHedded> how do you burn vob files in gnomebaker?
[01:37] <k31th> to be able to install linux on a slow machine and it to run fast
[01:37] <amphi> blanky: what's the problem?
[01:38] <xcc> IdleOne, maybe libraries in my ubuntu have some conflicts?
[01:38] <dyrne> blanky, on less than 512 mb ram i wouldnt use gnome or kde it would just frustrate me
[01:38] <khafra> And should I do the 32 bit chroot thing, or just install 32 bit ubuntu?
[01:38] <k31th> nlshould run fine
[01:38] <k31th> blanky: should run fine*
[01:38] <blanky> amphi, everything's too slow :'( I remember something about hardlink, or was it hotlink
[01:38] <Verithrax> Can't figure out how to get my mike working under Linux. The mixer says it's working and I can hear myself when I turn on the microphone, but it's not recording.
[01:38] <k31th> i do have a gig of ram tho
[01:38] <Tinbasher> anybody here good with kororaa?
[01:38] <blanky> k31th, yeah it should run fine, I have pretty big swap too, but it kinda isn't oh well
[01:38] <amphi> blanky: is something eating your processor? top would tell you
[01:38] <blanky> hmm letme check
[01:38] <rupan3> blanky: how much space did you slice out for you swap partition?
[01:39] <Installer36> flix make sure your repositories are upto date
[01:39] <mjr> Verithrax, is there a red cross on the mic picture in the gnome volume control thing?
[01:39] <k31th> blanky: try apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:39] <blanky> k31th, for xfce?
[01:39] <k31th> yes
[01:39] <Tinbasher> got a prompt but can't get gui to boot up
[01:39] <blanky> rupan3, I think I got 1.5 gigs for my swap
[01:39] <flix> installer36, thank you
[01:39] <Verithrax> Nope.
[01:39] <xcc> somebody tell me date of kde4 release
[01:39] <amphi> blanky: dma is enabled on your hd?
[01:39] <k31th> blanky: tbh i couldnt live with less than a gig these days
[01:39] <Installer36> k31th can you do that with xfce if you have flux box
[01:40] <k31th> but iv ran X on far less
[01:40] <blanky> hey guys, I was thinking trying out KDE first to see if it was good, most likely wont stay with it but would it be pretty easy to uninstall/remove/purge? deborphan?
[01:40] <khafra> 64 bit vs. 32 bit Ubuntu:  Can it cause mouse issues?
[01:40] <blanky> k31th, some of us have less of an economic status
[01:40] <rupan3> blanky:
[01:40] <mjr> khafra, not really
[01:40] <rupan3> what i would do is make a separate partition for home
[01:40] <k31th> blanky: i can understand that
[01:40] <khafra> mjr: Damn. Then what could my problem with the MX 1000 stopping responding be?
[01:40] <rupan3> and then just reinstall when you want to try the different ubuntu flavors
[01:41] <k31th> Installer36: can you run xfce  and fluxbox ?
[01:41] <mjr> blanky, well, pretty easy, you could eg. remove some essential KDE library and have pretty much the whole kit'n'kaboodle go with it
[01:41] <varsendagger> hey can i physically install a new harddrive and then mmake part of it swap, or is that somthing that i needed to do at install?
[01:41] <blanky> mjr, okay thanks sir
[01:41] <blanky> thanks k31th to you too
[01:41] <anthony> how do i mount my dvd/cd-rom drive? (has something to do with the unhide option and /etc/fstab, but can't remember exactly what)
[01:41] <k31th> no worrys dude
[01:41] <Installer36> if i already have flux box can i sudo apt-get install xfce aalso
[01:41] <khafra> Would it be more trouble to do the 32 bit chroot thing for the programs that need it, or download and replace my 64 bit Ubuntu install with a 32 bit?
[01:41] <k31th> Installer36: of corse
[01:41] <bimberi> varsendagger: the former
[01:41] <rupan3> varsendagger: you can slice a chunk off for swap, sure.
[01:42] <amphi> blanky: did you find any process eating your cpu? what does uptime show your load average to be?
[01:42] <Installer36> Thanks
[01:42] <mjr> khafra, I'd do the chroot thing, but that's me
[01:42] <k31th> you can add a swap part anytime
[01:42] <mjr> khafra, in fact, I _have_ done the chroot thing
[01:42] <blanky> amphi, sorry never found the resource viewer
[01:42] <amphi> k31th: or file, for that matter
[01:42] <k31th> indeed
[01:42] <amphi> blanky: type uptime in a terminal
[01:42] <blanky> amphi, , nevermind I found it
[01:42] <khafra> Hehe, aright then.  I've never chrooted, so I'll do it for the experience, in  case I ever wanna Apache
[01:42] <amphi> blanky: or top
[01:43] <brenner> anthony: are you in console-mode? b/c gnome should automount your discs
[01:43] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[01:43] <blanky> amphi, nothing's really taking cycles away that much, but my java process is taking 298 mb of virtual memory
[01:44] <varsendagger> k31th, do i just format it and then go to fstab?
[01:44] <blanky> was, I closed limewire
[01:44] <amphi> blanky: what's your load average?
[01:44] <blanky> firefox is taking like 110.3 mb
[01:44] <k31th> varsendagger: ?? wat was the question ? are you trying to add a swap part ?
[01:44] <EnsignRedshirt> Do I need version 2.6.15 of the kernel to use PPTP to connect to a VPN?
[01:44] <blanky> wow not even windows, unless this is different
[01:44] <Rob_Dude> Grrrr
[01:44] <k31th> blanky: ff loves to eat ram
[01:44] <Artemis3> its the same in windows
[01:44] <anthony> brenner: i think i got it "mount /media/cdrom/" is what i did and it seems to  be  working, thanks =)
[01:44] <flix> installer36, you are the man!! Thank you, the repositories I had were for ubuntu 5.04 and not for 5.10,  I got them off ubuntuguide.org, which was a mistake because the info there is for 5.04, thank you again
[01:44] <amphi> blanky: ff is taking 'only' 237MB here ;(
[01:45] <Rob_Dude> So...if I were to download 70mb worth of Linux kernel headers using apt-get; where would I find those files?
[01:45] <blanky> amphi, lol
[01:45] <k31th> let me look here
[01:45] <blanky> I'm a try install KDE
[01:45] <Installer36> you welcome
[01:45] <Artemis3> just don't leave it open forever, with a session saver just close it and open it from time to time
[01:45] <brenner> Rob_Dude: dpkg  -L <package name>
[01:45] <Rob_Dude> Sweet
[01:46] <amphi> blanky: I have an ok cpu and 1.5GB ram on this laptop, but I still prefer lightweight window managers; openbox at the moment
[01:46] <k31th> 586mb of ram being used atm
[01:46] <blanky> openbox?
[01:46] <Rob_Dude> Hey, how would I make one of those 'virtual directories' or linked directories?
[01:46] <Rob_Dude> er, bah, I don't even know what it's called
[01:46] <Artemis3> 1,5gb in a laptop....
[01:46] <amphi> blanky: apt-cache show openbox
[01:46] <k31th> yeah...
[01:46] <blanky> LOL Artemis3 , i know
[01:46] <dyrne> blanky, thats like the ultimate in minimalism
[01:46] <amphi> Artemis3: it came with 512MB but I got 1GB upgrade
[01:47] <k31th> skills
[01:47] <Artemis3> which lightweight wm you like?
[01:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone familiar with connecting to a VPN with PPTP?
[01:47] <Razor-X`> Ratpoison forever! :D.
[01:47] <k31th> EnsignRedshirt: yes
[01:47] <Artemis3> hmm
[01:48] <EnsignRedshirt> k31th: OK, just wondering...
[01:48] <amphi> Artemis3: I use openbox ATM - I was using wmii, but it was buggy and slow, and now the devs have removed sloppy focus; I have openbox set up so I can do everything via keyboard anyway
[01:48] <k31th> EnsignRedshirt: are you connecting from linux there is a front end tool...
[01:48] <Artemis3> i like wmaker
[01:48] <k31th> pptpconfig iirc
[01:48] <k31th> its in apt as well iirc
[01:48] <Jae686> guys
[01:48] <Artemis3> ok, interesting
[01:49] <Jae686> how do i set a PATH on ubuntu ?
[01:49] <k31th> right bedtime, night all
[01:49] <Artemis3> for us with memory in the "megs" range
[01:49] <wastrel> Jae686:  path for what?
[01:49] <brenner> Rob_Dude: use ln -s?  i could be horribly wrong though
[01:50] <EnsignRedshirt> k31th: I have the package pptp-linux installed, but that does not give me pptpconfig.
[01:50] <amphi> Artemis3: I used wmaker a long while back
[01:50] <maxkelley> forwha?
[01:50] <Artemis3> i still like it..
[01:50] <amphi> Artemis3: yeah, it's a treat for me to finally have a large amount of ram
[01:50] <Jae686> for a dir
[01:50] <jmg> hey all
[01:51] <jmg> im having an issue with xv
[01:51] <Artemis3> hmm with that ram you could use e17 with all the bells and whistles
[01:51] <jmg> xvinfo shows an overlay device but it doesnt want to work
[01:51] <Jae686> i put it on /etc/profile, but it does not show on the "env" command
[01:51] <amphi> Artemis3: povray eats that ram quite well ;)
[01:52] <Artemis3> ah well, there is always that...
[01:52] <amphi> Artemis3: I'm not interested in wm eyecandy really
[01:52] <Verithrax> Ah, works  now.
[01:52] <Artemis3> and pc emulation
[01:52] <EnsignRedshirt> The VPN network that I am trying to connect has pretty simple instructions... for Win2K or XP.
[01:52] <Verithrax> People with VIA 82xx boards: The mike is connected to the capture device, not to the microphone one, for some reason.
[01:52] <amphi> Artemis3: yeah, I run sometimes 3 guest OSes under qemu
[01:52] <Artemis3> that explains it
[01:53] <wastrel> Jae686:  did you log out & back in again?
[01:53] <Jae686> Artemis3,  beware that e17 segfaults to hell and back
[01:53] <Jae686> wastrel, y
[01:54] <EnsignRedshirt> Jae686: ...at least is comes back :)
[01:54] <Jae686> most of the time
[01:54] <EnsignRedshirt> s/is/it/
[01:54] <Artemis3> amphi had plenty of memory for debugging ^^
[01:54] <cas> Does anyone knows a simple way to encode parts of a dvd to an avi/mpg?
[01:55] <cas> I have ripped the vob files, but can't find a video editor that can edit them.
[01:55] <rupan3> good question
[01:55] <Toma-> cas, use acidrip or dvdrip to extract them and encode them to an mpeg
[01:55] <mike-e_> 12  *  *  *  * ~/public_html/chicagochat/IRCStats-1.0/gen <--will that run my shell script every 12 minutes or at the 12'th minute of every hour?
[01:56] <anthony> if the command for mount is mnt, what's the command for un-mounting?
[01:56] <Jae686> its a pitty that e17 is taking soo long
[01:56] <blanky> hey guys
[01:56] <blanky> how do you un-bz2 an archive
[01:56] <blanky> bunzip?
[01:56] <Jae686> if it came out "stable" a few years ago.....
[01:56] <cas> Toma-: but i still need to edit them, and it would save me days encode time if i could edit them before encoding
[01:56] <brenner> anthony: umount
[01:56] <mike-e_> bunzip2 file
[01:56] <avu> mike-e_: the latter. */12 instead of 12 would do the first
[01:56] <Madpilot> blanky, just double-click on it, the Archive Manager should open
[01:56] <avu> mike-e_: see man 5 crontab
[01:57] <anthony> brenner: what about stoppinga device?
[01:57] <mike-e_> ok thanks
[01:57] <amphi> Artemis3: heh
[01:57] <rupan3> blanky: tar jxvf filename.tar.bz2
[01:57] <brenner> anthony: stopping?
[01:57] <Toma-> cas encoding to mpeg doesnt take long. a vob is basically an encrypted mpeg anyway. all youre doing is removing the encryption...
[01:57] <anthony> brenner: yes, i'm trying to unmount my cd rom, it says it's busy, so i have to stop it first
[01:57] <Artemis3> needs more people developing, or maybe ebuntu should open some rewards ;)
[01:57] <Toma-> and mpeg is an uncompress format, so any video editor should be able to do it
[01:57] <amphi> cas: you can use mplayer -dumpstream and just dump what you want
[01:58] <khafra> Why does my Logitech MX1000 mouse just stop responding for no apparent reason every 3-5 minutes of use (doesn't happen when I'm away) and not start responding 'til I pull out the usb connector and put it in again?
[01:58] <brenner> anthony: it's not currently in use is it?
[01:58] <anthony> brenner: no it's not
[01:59] <brenner> anthony: in that case, if umount doesn't seem to be working. i'd just force it and do a 'sudo eject'
[01:59] <blanky> how do you un-tar an archive
[01:59] <amphi> anthony: something may be using the mount point as a working directory
[01:59] <blanky> tar xvf?
[01:59] <ttread> anthony you could try lsof | grep cdrom
[01:59] <amphi> blanky: tar.gz?
[01:59] <biloyp> what command do I use to see a list of processes
[01:59] <blanky> amphi, just .tar
[01:59] <ttread> it will tell you which app is tying it tup
[01:59] <amphi> blanky: yeah, tar xvf foo.tar
[01:59] <stingray|> biloyp, you could use "top" or "ps aux"
[01:59] <khafra> It's like I only have so many feet I can move the mouse before it dies, and I have to reset it.
[02:00] <amphi> blanky: the 'v' is just for verbose listing
[02:00] <blanky> yeah i know, thanks amphi
[02:00] <biloyp> thx stingray
[02:00] <anthony> it's wine acting up, trying to install world of warcraft throught he cd-rom, haha, now i have to change the installation cd
[02:00] <stingray|> np
[02:01] <Rob_Dude> Does WoW run with Wine?
[02:01] <SherckoM> hi hello
[02:01] <cas> Toma-, amphi: tnx i will try it, do you know a GUI video editor by any change?
[02:01] <anthony> i'm trying to get it to run, following the howto posted on ubuntu forum
[02:01] <Verithrax> Can I get KDE from the standard Ubuntu repos?
[02:02] <anthony> just trying to stop this damn device so i can eject my cd rom
[02:02] <SherckoM> :o
[02:02] <Rob_Dude> That's awesome.
[02:02] <amphi> cas: LIVES is a simple one, not overly useful I don't think, and there's cinelerra - I don't know of others
[02:02] <Madpilot> Verithrax, yes - install "kubuntu-desktop"
[02:02] <Rob_Dude> LoL, except the whole reason I installed Linux was to stop playing games all day
[02:02] <SherckoM> anyone has ran RAID HD's on linux 2.6 ?
[02:02] <Rob_Dude> ;)
[02:02] <SherckoM> liek me Rob_Dude xD
[02:02] <mike-e_> I'm trying to start a crontab that runs a shell script in a sub directory in a shell account of mine, for irc channel stats. the crontab needs to execute a binary however in the crontab file I specified */30  *  *  *  * /public_html/chicagochat/IRCStats-1.0/gen - I get a cron mail to my account saying /public_html/chicagochat/IRCStats-1.0/gen: not found - any ideas on how i can get it working?
[02:03] <stingray|> i installed linux just to play a lot of tuxracer =/
[02:03] <SherckoM> has anyone run SATA Raid disks on linux 2.6 ?
[02:03] <trooper00> i'm looking for an affordable laptop that will run linux without many major glitches. is the dell inspiron 6000 a good choice? anyone using this notebook?
[02:03] <cas> amphi: i will check them out, i was looking for cinerella but forgot the name and couldn't find it anywhere
[02:03] <Verithrax> Cool, thanks.
[02:03] <amphi> cas: 'cinelerra' I believe ;)
[02:03] <brenner> stingray|: is that still shareware?
[02:04] <Artemis3> used to be called broadcast...
[02:04] <amphi> Artemis3: what? cinelerra?
[02:04] <Artemis3> yes
[02:05] <elektronaut> hi everybody! i need a new kernel as i got some problem with vmware. already tried 2.6.15 which gave me a lot of trouble. i want to try 2.6.14. what do you advice: 2.6.14.7 or a patched 2.6.14 (ck9 or archck7)?
[02:05] <cas> amphi: cant find it in dapper
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> OK, so I ran the "vpn" script that I found in the ubuntu wiki, and it didn't report any errors.  How know it is working?  Sorry for the dumb question, but... how do I *use* a VPN?
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> s/How know/How do I know/
[02:05] <brenner> mike-e_: does /public_html/chicagochat/IRCStats-1.0/gen actually exist?
[02:05] <elektronaut> oh yes, i'm using breezy.
[02:05] <mike-e_> brenner : yes
[02:05] <Rob_Dude> elektronaut:  I just finished installing VMware Server - what's the error you are getting?
[02:05] <amphi> cas: you could try an build it, but I suspect it's a pain
[02:06] <biloyp> xmule don't work so good....doesn't want to close..hcommand linead to kill it from
[02:06] <elektronaut> i have vmware workstation.
[02:06] <brenner> mike-e_: just checking
[02:06] <babo> I have a sed problem, I want the output of URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION=`php -r "echo rawurlencode('$URL_ENCODED_DESCRIPTION');"` to be assigned to my shell variable after being run through the sed command     sed 's/%0A%0D/%0A%0D/g'  ?
[02:06] <mike-e_> brenner: all it is is a script that runs the following command: ircstats ~/eggdrop/logs/chicagochat.log ircstats.cfg
[02:06] <Rob_Dude> (I'm a newb, but I thought you might be having the same issue)
[02:06] <babo> I seem to only be able to process sed in a file ... I want it in a shell variable
[02:06] <jj_> hello
[02:07] <stingray|> brenner, no idea, i was kidding
[02:07] <stingray|> havent played tuxracer for years
[02:07] <aridese> hi guys how do i convert from asf to mp3
[02:07] <matthew_w> Hey, is there something like Visual C++ for Linux?  Like, an GUI/IDE?
[02:07] <elektronaut> Rob_Dude: At first it worked.
[02:07] <matthew_w> s/an/a
[02:07] <wastrel> babo:  you can't run sed on a shell variable, you can however pipe input to sed.
[02:07] <Jsm> hi iv installed apache thru the package mangment and i need to knlow were it installs it
[02:07] <aridese> matthew_w, other than a text editor, noo... use VMware or Wine, or go back to windows if you want to develop
[02:07] <Verithrax> Does Dapper come with Firefox 1.5?
[02:07] <_jason> Verithrax: yes
[02:07] <blanky> matthew_w, monodevelop is looking a lot like it, then there's eclipse-sdk which I recommend
[02:07] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, nevermind - my fault
[02:07] <EnsignRedshirt> matthew_w: I haven't tried them, but check out anjuta or kdevelop.
[02:07] <babo> wastrel: but how do I store the sed output ?
[02:08] <jj_> need helping printing to a WIndows XP shared printer. tried everything I could
[02:08] <aridese> matthew_w, there's some half-assed shits like anjuta or eclipse, but you won't be happy with them
[02:08] <matthew_w> aridese; that's a bit depressing.  I heard Kdevelop was good.
[02:08] <Verithrax> Nice. I should consider early adoption.
[02:08] <blanky> aridese, leave if you won't be helping
[02:08] <amphi> blanky: wtf?
[02:08] <aridese> blanky, i'm not helping?
[02:08] <blanky> matthew_w, kdevelop is okay, anjuta I've heard some good things, eclipse is okay
[02:08] <Jsm> hi iv installed apache thru the package mangment and i need to knlow were it installs it
[02:08] <biloyp> college I went to stopped teaching C++ and switched to java teaching? is C++ dieing?
[02:08] <blanky> monodevelop might bring you closer to the msv.net if you're into .net
[02:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jsm about lamp
[02:09] <aridese> matthew_w, just grab VMware workstation / player and install visual C++ and be done with it
[02:09] <elkbuntu> jsm /var/www
[02:09] <Jsm> ty
[02:09] <aridese> matthew_w, nothing beats the rel thing
[02:09] <blanky> biloyp, not really, people just think that Java is the next big thing, teachers are ignorant, they think C++ is old, and it is, but it's still widely used today
[02:09] <amphi> biloyp: hope so, ditto java
[02:09] <wastrel> babo:   FOO=`echo $BAR | sed 's/bar/foo/'`
[02:09] <matthew_w> aridese; that's ok.  I'm trying to stay away from the proprietary junk.  From what I've seen, there's always a better alternative.
[02:09] <wastrel> babo:  there are probably more elegant solutions, maybe ask in #bash
[02:10] <aridese> matthew_w, heh, check out kdevelop / monodevelop / anjuta / eclipse... you'll only be dissapointed, though
[02:10] <elektronaut> Rob_Dude: but then i wanted to give the vm access to an ubuntu partition. that resulted in vmware freeze.
[02:10] <matthew_w> s'ok.
[02:10] <varsendagger> k31th, yeah i am trying to add a swap partition
[02:10] <amphi> matthew_w: just use vim or emacs like everyone else ;)
[02:10] <biloyp> yeah I know it is used still..just was wondering....I tok 2 classes of C++ and my brain hurt
[02:10] <blanky> matthew_w, I still consider those being any better than emacs or vim, but of course it depends on how comfortable you are with what environment
[02:10] <biloyp> guess I wasn't cut out to be a programmer
[02:10] <matthew_w> I want something to spare me the grueling pig-work of doing int Main's and crappy X11 sizings for the gfx, etc.
[02:10] <Jsm> ok next thing were are the apache config files stored?
[02:10] <amphi> biloyp: that's a sign of sanity ;)
[02:11] <biloyp> amphi: haha
[02:11] <blanky> matthew_w, but aridese is right, nothing will beat the real thing, tis why I still use windows to develop
[02:11] <elektronaut> Rob_Dude: so i read in the forum that i should try it with another kernel
[02:11] <babo> wastrel: there is never anyone around in #bash, but I think that works ... thanks
[02:11] <phreak97> is the ubuntu loading screen at boot meant to have a moving progress bar?
[02:11] <phreak97> mine doesnt work
[02:11] <Syco54645> can anyone help me with setting up xorg with the nvidia drivers?  i try to run 1280x1024 and it just wont work, but before i use the nvidia drivers it works fine in that resolution
[02:11] <blanky> phreak97, how so
[02:11] <NCLife> my k3b dont want to start up
[02:11] <NCLife> how could i reinstall it?
[02:11] <aridese> blanky, or VMWare workstation -- what i use
[02:12] <amphi> biloyp: "If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor and when was the last time you needed one?" ;)
[02:12] <blanky> phreak97, there's a usplash command that supposedly fixes it (fixed mine), though I don't remember
[02:12] <matthew_w> But you can't develop for Linux in Windows.
[02:12] <ACU> Good Evening ---- I need to configure a DUAL HEAD - ubuntu and I have terible time with it --- any GUI application which can do it ---- or any way to do it easy
[02:12] <phreak97> blanky, it comes up, the bar does nothing, then it goes back to text based
[02:12] <biloyp> amphi:   huh?
[02:12] <aridese> amphi, heh you don't need one :-P
[02:12] <amphi> aridese: I haven't yet ;)
[02:12] <blanky> phreak97, again, usplash, though I don't remember the exact command
[02:12] <navarone> amphi I try to stay away from anything that destroys privates...<s>
[02:12] <phreak97> blanky, where would i find it?
[02:12] <aridese> amphi, so it's not that complicated
[02:12] <ACU> Good Evening ---- I need to configure a DUAL HEAD - ubuntu and I have terible time with it
[02:13] <biloyp> amphi I don't know but can I put it in a bong and smoke it?
[02:13] <aridese> java = slow, vm'd language
[02:13] <elektronaut> nobody got advice on breezy either with 2.6.14.7 or 2.6.14 with patch ck or archck?
[02:13] <aridese> i don't know why they dont just teach C++ :-/
[02:13] <brenner> Syco54645: pastebin your xorg.conf file
[02:13] <AskHL> aridese, why do you think java is so slow?
[02:13] <blanky> phreak97, I dont know but I just ran it right now and it got messed up
[02:13] <aridese> AskHL, it's in a VM -- it'll be slower than a C++ countertype
[02:13] <Jsm> ok next thing were are the apache config files stored?
[02:13] <phreak97> lol..
[02:13] <amphi> biloyp: or a hint from one of the masters: "object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing."
[02:13] <AskHL> It has primitive types and stuff, it's not that bad
[02:14] <aridese> my god
[02:14] <aridese> are you people serious?
[02:14] <blanky> hmm?
[02:14] <aridese> OOP and C++ is bad?
[02:14] <aridese> what? what channel is this?
[02:14] <Klick_> hey all, can anyone help me figure out what happened to my wirless network, i followed a step by step on getting ipw2200 working, and it was working perfectly, now after i rebooted it all doesnt work, and i cant even remove the bad module that its loading automaticaly for some reason
[02:14] <blanky> no, who said
[02:14] <AskHL> You can compile it to machine code as well
[02:14] <BeOSMrX> hello friends, I have ubuntu 5.04 live cd. I need to accomplish this task, please tell me how. Create 1 100% partition on my new 250GB hdd.
[02:14] <biloyp> enough amphi....my brain is starting to hurt
[02:14] <brenner> #ubuntu-offtopic people
[02:14] <wastrel> please take C++/java war into #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:14] <aridese> wastrel, nothing stands in the way of a holy jihad :-P
[02:14] <Jsm> so can any one help me ?
[02:15] <blanky> Jsm, just ask your question
[02:15] <wastrel> aridese:  at least argue about something interesting then...  vi/emacs perhaps ;] 
[02:15] <amphi> Jsm: /etc/apache might be a good place to start looking
[02:15] <Jsm> OK
[02:15] <aridese> wastrel, notepad > *
[02:15] <blanky> Jsm, search for 'httpd.conf' I believe
[02:15] <NCLife> i can start k3b only with sudo k3b from a terminal, and it seems it doesnt burn dvds well
[02:15] <EnsignRedshirt> Jsm: /etc/apache2
[02:15] <Syco54645> brenner: http://pastebin.com/575926
[02:15] <Syco54645> tehre it is
[02:15] <ACU> BeOS --- I do not know if ubuntu live has it but KNOPIX sure have it --- GPARTED or something like this allows you to both shrink or reformat any drive --- isprety culo
[02:15] <NCLife> should i reinstall it?
[02:15] <elektronaut> is anybody using a custom kernel with LVM in use? this seems to be troublesome.
[02:15] <blanky> !mp3
[02:15] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:15] <elkbuntu> BeOSMrX, unless you have like a gigabyte of ram, you're going to need a swap partition for comfortable computing
[02:16] <BeOSMrX> excuse me, I no nothing about computers and don't understand babble
[02:16] <wastrel> Klick_:  what is the rogue module you're having trouble with?
[02:16] <BeOSMrX> I just need to create one simple 1 100% partition, does NOT matter what type it is
[02:16] <BeOSMrX> from with in the live cd
[02:16] <Jsm> Found it ;) /etc/apache2 , opps some one told me that just after i looked away
[02:16] <amphi> BeOSMrX: Yes, how is their snake today, amphi? pants of the democracy of belarus with extra cream
[02:16] <aridese> BeOSMrX, sup homie, fire up fdisk
[02:16] <BeOSMrX> is this, a command line thing ?
[02:17] <brenner> Syco54645: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, and then type C, press enter twice
[02:17] <elkbuntu> BeOSMrX, that's not my point. you're going to need some of that 250gb as a seperate parition called a swap partition, which is like extra memory
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> so if I was to do this, I should learn how to use 'fdisk'
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, then t, 1, 86
[02:17] <Jae686> is there a CLI quide ?
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, then p, confirm
[02:17] <khafra> Why would gam_server take 320 megs of RAM?
[02:17] <amphi> BeOSMrX: cfdisk is a bit easier
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> well
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, then exit and save changes. ka ching
[02:17] <brenner> ubotu: tell Jae686 about cli
[02:17] <ACU> BeOSMrx --- just use GParted ---- in Knopix --- is straight forward --- and allows you to do anything you want --- when I shrink an existing partition on a laptop (do dual boot) it took like 3 hours
[02:17] <Syco54645> brenner: monitorrange: 31-70, 55-120
[02:17] <aridese> BeOSMrX, or you could use "parted"... it's in the start bard
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> okay which one, cfdisk of fdisk ?
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> what ?
[02:17] <BeOSMrX> I only have ubuntu 5.04
[02:18] <BeOSMrX> live cd
[02:18] <BeOSMrX> nothing else
[02:18] <aridese> BeOSMrX, ok buddy... command line you go, type, sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:18] <matthew_w> Hey I installed Anjuta
[02:18] <aridese> matthew_w, > : )
[02:18] <Jae686> thx BenC
[02:18] <aridese> matthew_w, i told you so
[02:18] <Jae686> erm
[02:18] <Jae686> brenner
[02:18] <matthew_w> and it's not quite what I meant.  It's a good C++ compiler with visuality
[02:18] <BeOSMrX> I also don't have internet aridese
[02:18] <anthony> Jae686: i find linuxcommand.org to be a very good CLI tutorial site
[02:18] <maxkelley> anjuta's a person.
[02:18] <matthew_w> But I meant something different.
[02:18] <Jae686> and btw
[02:18] <Jae686> how do we get anjuta to use crosscompilers?
[02:19] <aridese> we dont. get a Real IDE
[02:19] <rupan3> hehe
[02:19] <brenner> Syco54645: replace it with this: http://pastebin.com/575934
[02:19] <maxkelley> anjuta's not a person?
[02:19] <brenner> Syco54645: your monitor rates were really weird
[02:19] <buulian> does anyone know if you can just update from 5.10 to Dapper w/o completely reinstalling?
[02:19] <matthew_w> Like something where I can Draw a window, and it will write the code, so I don't have to do that horsework I've not done in like 3 years.
[02:19] <Jae686> real ide == ?
[02:19] <rupan3> my mom just called and i tried to sell her on installing ubuntu.
[02:19] <BeOSMrX> I've already booted the ubuntu 5.04 live cd, and thru the start menus i did not find an hdd partition utility
[02:19] <brenner> Jae686: no worries....and no idea on the 2nd question
[02:19] <ACU> OK ---- anyone knows to configure ubuntu for DUAL HEAD
[02:19] <brenner> buulian: yes, you can
[02:19] <Syco54645> brenner: well i will go and try this right now, if it doesnt work i will be back... if it does i will again be back (to thank you of course)
[02:19] <rupan3> BeOSMrX: gParted is the partition utility
[02:19] <maxkelley> ACU: Check the wiki
[02:20] <khafra> What's a normal amount of RAM for gam_server to use?  Doesn't seem like monitoring for file changes should take 320 megs.
[02:20] <buulian> would you suggest ubuntu for a Computer Science student?
[02:20] <rupan3> BeOSMrX: if you can't find it, try the find file utility
[02:20] <BeOSMrX> rupan3, where does that show in the start menu ?
[02:20] <matthew_w> Or
[02:20] <BeOSMrX> is there an image showing this ?
[02:20] <buulian> or should I just go Mac?
[02:20] <brenner> Syco54645: see you soon :)
[02:20] <BeOSMrX> I don't have a printer to remember this
[02:20] <aridese> buulian, try mac.. prettier interface
[02:20] <navarone> BeOSMrX, if it doesn't matter what partition type like you said why not just use a windows boot disk with fdisk?
[02:20] <amphi> buulian: I'd suggest debian or slackware
[02:20] <dejx> am
[02:20] <dejx> what's the package
[02:20] <matthew_w> BeOSMrX; open a terminal, by going accessories-terminal, and then type "gParted"
[02:20] <brenner> buulian: either is fine.
[02:20] <dejx> of C header files?
[02:21] <buulian> there's no real difference?
[02:21] <amphi> buulian: or netbsd
[02:21] <brenner> dejx: build-essential
[02:21] <BeOSMrX> great, matthew_w that will work. is it gui ?
[02:21] <ACU> buulian --- for a Computer Student ----- Debian is the way ---
[02:21] <wastrel> buulian:  you could always dual-boot
[02:21] <buulian> anything besides windows?
[02:21] <dejx> and where is that then?
[02:21] <brenner> buulian: you can always run ubuntu on your mac :)
[02:21] <wastrel> and as a CS student, unless you need a working system, LFS is the way to go ;] 
[02:21] <dejx> ==/usr/src/linux/include
[02:21] <amphi> buulian: or plan 9 perhaps
[02:21] <BeOSMrX> and navarone, I ONLY have ubuntu 5.04 live cd, and microsoft is banned from my house
[02:21] <dejx> here isnt?
[02:21] <BenC> Jae686: for what? :)
[02:22] <Rob_Dude> dejx:  I had some troubles with that myself when I was installing vmware
[02:22] <ACU> buulian--- I am using Ubuntu in powerpc *right now ---
[02:22] <nbjayme> Can u play realmeadia without having to install the RealMedia player?  Also, is there a way to convert these files to ogg/mp3? I am under ubuntu-breezy.
[02:22] <warpzone> hey guys, having a strange problem with 'sudo'. when used, no error messages appear, but no commands are executed, including the GUI updater
[02:22] <navarone> BeOSMrX, I take it you are not at home now then?
[02:22] <dejx> rob yes i'm installing vmware
[02:22] <buulian> the thing is that i've got a really nice AMD laptop, and an Ipod- I don't know whether to change to linux or completely reinvest in mac hardware
[02:22] <dejx> and what did you do?
[02:22] <Alexi5> ubuntu king of all linux distros
[02:22] <ACU> nbjayme ---- is too much work ---- just install RealPlayer
[02:23] <BeOSMrX> navarone, I am at home
[02:23] <Rob_Dude> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[02:23] <nbjayme> ACU, ok. thanks.  ;)
[02:23] <navarone> BeOSMrX, I thought you had no internet?
[02:23] <wastrel> buulian:  if you have that kind of money to throw around, send me the AMD and get yourself a mac :] 
[02:23] <rupan3> buulian: i'd definately try out ubuntu
[02:23] <BeOSMrX> I won't from my live cd
[02:23] <Rob_Dude> but after that I still had to use ln to get the path to match
[02:23] <BeOSMrX> i wont be needing it, so I won't install anything either
[02:23] <biloyp> FYI use amule instead of xmule
[02:23] <nbjayme> ACU, will it allow me to convert to other formats?
[02:23] <Jae686> BenC, its was a glitch from the nick completion feature from x-chat :P
[02:23] <warpzone> been using Ubuntu for a week and loving it. Just a couple things you need to adjust.
[02:24] <Jae686> well
[02:24] <Rob_Dude> It put the headers into /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10 instead of into /usr/src/linux
[02:24] <rupan3> i've been using it for a short time too, about two weeks
[02:24] <Alexi5> doesn't xmule and amule do the same thing
[02:24] <wastrel> warpzone:  you probably removed yourself from the admin group
[02:24] <Jae686> i use it since last year
[02:24] <rupan3> it's the first linux distro i really flipped on
[02:24] <biloyp> ALexis yeah but xmule wouldnt close in a gui environment
[02:24] <ACU> buulian ---- I have a laptop which dual boots UBuntu and Windows ---------that's tough -- I do not about conversion  I needed RealPlayer for streamcasts
[02:24] <Griff> it only took me 2 weeks for it to become my primary OS
[02:24] <biloyp> had to kill it from command line
[02:24] <warpzone> wastrel: what's the file to edit to enter myself back in?
[02:25] <rupan3> it's already got me combing my windows partition for stuff i want to save so i can pave it over and add more space to /home
[02:25] <wastrel> warpzone:  well you'd need to use sudo ;] 
[02:25] <anthony> is there any reason that my ctrl +alt +f1 doesn't work anymore? =(
[02:25] <warpzone> wastrel: hahaha, I'll just use su, right, from the command line?
[02:25] <dejx> Thank you for information Rob_Dude
[02:26] <wastrel> warpzone:  you have a root password?  that works :]   typically you would use vigr to edit the /etc/groups file
[02:26] <rupan3> anthony: you can't get to a plain console login?
[02:26] <BeOSMrX> so, I will have to use this exact command from the terminal 'gParted' do I need to have a root terminal or just normal terminal ?
[02:26] <anthony> rupan3: nope
[02:26] <rupan3> BeOSMrX: run it with sudo
[02:26] <matthew_w> BeOSMrX; not sure
[02:26] <wastrel> warpzone:  you want to add yourself back to the adm group i believe.
[02:26] <rupan3> anthony: what's your desktop environment
[02:26] <Syco54645> brenner: well at least x got up again with the new config.  when at gdm the screen was too large for the monitor so it decided to scroll.  now in gnome my resolution is 1280x960.  this the the problem that i always have when using the nvidia drives.... what is up with them?
[02:26] <BeOSMrX> well the live cd has root terminal, and normal which one
[02:26] <warpzone> wastrel: I'll give it a shot, thanks a bunch man
[02:26] <wastrel> gl
[02:27] <anthony> rupan3: well only through shutting down xserver through ctrl + alt + backspace, but some times i don't want to shut down xserver; i am using gnome
[02:27] <raggi> yo, need a quick bit of help
[02:27] <raggi> can't find a usb drive that's coming up in dmesg
[02:27] <rupan3> i forget where it's located, but there is a gnome utility for setting hotkeys
[02:27] <amphi> raggi: /dev/sda1 is always worth a try ;)
[02:27] <BeOSMrX> Well, I WILL run it from the root terminal, since I had to run it with 'su'
[02:27] <rupan3> i'd first make sure that it isn't remapping those keys
[02:28] <sagarp> in bash, what does !~ do?
[02:28] <raggi> amphi: thx, i saww it say /dev/sda, but i wasn't sure, could see it on ls /dev
[02:28] <rupan3> !~ means "not home"
[02:28] <ubotu> rupan3: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:28] <rupan3> right?
[02:28] <Teecee_Home> I just installed ubuntu 5.10 on a IBM M51 and for some reason after the install my monitor says the input is not supported...How can I change the resolution without being able to see the screen after the ubuntu splash screen comes up
[02:28] <IceDC571> What's that one bootable cd and software that checks your memory? I'm trying to remember..
[02:28] <jimmyoz> #nacimiento
[02:28] <BeOSMrX> I will use this thanku for the help and suggestion http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[02:28] <IceDC571> Something with 95 in it, I think
[02:28] <succubus_-_> hey.. just wondering if this would be possible, and if so how. --on campus each student is designated a student drive that can be accessed anywhere on the network. i have it mapped on my Windows XP machine and i was looking to the the same with Ubuntu.. anyone?
[02:28] <brenner> Syco54645: sys>pref>screen res.
[02:28] <brenner> Syco54645: can you choose 1280x1024?
[02:28] <Syco54645> brenner: i did have it working once with the nvidia drivers.  but unfortunately i was on gentoo and then the drive crashed
[02:28] <Syco54645> brenner: no i cannot.
[02:29] <morphineinduced> hey is there a forum around here or do they only help people through the irc
[02:29] <brenner> Syco54645: having an ati card ... i'm deferring to nvidia owners. sorry. :-/
[02:29] <IceDC571> ..ah, memtest86
[02:29] <Toma-> !forum
[02:29] <ubotu> well, forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:29] <sagarp> rupan3, but many folders are "not home", yet when i do echo !~ it prints out the same thing everytime
[02:29] <rupan3> succubus_-_: there's probably a howto on wiki.ubuntu.com on mounting network drives
[02:29] <Toma-> there you go morphineinduced
[02:29] <rupan3> sagarp: and what's that?
[02:29] <raggi> hmm, getting read errors now
[02:29] <raggi> :-/
[02:29] <Toma-> !wiki
[02:29] <morphineinduced> thanks
[02:29] <raggi> might explain it
[02:29] <Syco54645> brenner: well thankyou for the help.  i just dont understand what this drivers problem is
[02:29] <succubus_-_> rupan3, would i need to do something so that i can write to NTFS?
[02:30] <sagarp> rupan3, some command that i ran a long time ago
[02:30] <mike-e_> is it possible to make a crontab NOT send a mail to the user account?
[02:30] <Curtman> Can anyone tell me why when I try to mount one of my drives, it says "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/tunes/ busy", but it's not mounted?
[02:30] <LycoLoco> Anyone know of any programs to send iso files to an xbox for Linux/ubuntu?
[02:30] <Teecee_Home> Anyone know how I can change the resolution before the splash screen?
[02:30] <rupan3> succubus_-_: check the synaptic package manager.. search for ntfs.. but linux has a few compatibility issues with ntfs, you might want to read up on that first
[02:30] <brenner> Syco54645: now worries.  good luck
[02:30] <brenner> s/now/no
[02:30] <rupan3> succubus_-_: check teh wiki
[02:31] <wastrel> !~ eh
[02:31] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, wastrel
[02:31] <succubus_-_> i'm checking now.. thanks.
[02:31] <brenner> Teecee_Home: i.e. before usplash?!
[02:31] <phreak97> ok, blanky is gone, but can anyone else help me? when i boot up my pc and it gets to the ubuntu loading screen (equivilent to the winxp loading screen) the loading bar doesnt do anything, in the bottom left it says "loading <something>" then goes back to text based loading progress until it gets into linux..
[02:31] <brenner> Teecee_Home: or before gdm?
[02:31] <Syco54645> brenner: well i know that i am not in the minority because a search for the problem on google will return alot of results
[02:31] <jimmyoz> hola
[02:31] <ttread> succubus_-_  the linux kernel can read from ntfs but can't write
[02:32] <Teecee_Home> brenner: before the brown ubunutu logo pops up telling about all the stuff it is processing, just before the screen that asks for your username and pword
[02:32] <rupan3> there's a tool or two that'll let you write to ntfs but you run the risk of corrupting your data
[02:32] <Teecee_Home> i see the splash screen, but as soon as it switches to the login screen I get input not supported on my monitor
[02:32] <rupan3> i know there's a tool to fix the ntfs partition before you mount it to windows so it doesn't destroy it, but i don't know how well it works
[02:32] <xanavim> how do I discover the device name of an SD card plugged into my usb port?
[02:33] <LycoLoco> Anyone know of any programs to send iso files to an xbox for Linux/Ubuntu?
[02:33] <succubus_-_> alright.. it's no biggy. not worth the risk
[02:33] <ubuntu> hehe
[02:33] <ubuntu> hello everyone
[02:33] <rupan3> succubus_-_: is your student drive ntfs?
[02:33] <phreak97> anyone else have a prolem with the brown ubuntu loading screen?
[02:33] <succubus_-_> rupan3, yes it is.
[02:33] <brenner> Teecee_Home: usplash = brown logo & scrolling text ... gdm = login.  i still don't get you.  where exactly do you want to change?
[02:34] <Curtman> Can anyone tell me why when I try to mount one of my drives, it says "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /media/tunes/ busy", but it's not mounted?
[02:34] <brenner> Teecee_Home: the order is: grub>usplash>gdm
[02:34] <phreak97> brenner, he needs to change his resolution/refresh rate down
[02:34] <Teecee_Home> brenner: I see the usplash,l but not the gdm
[02:34] <phreak97> it's too high for his monitor
[02:34] <Teecee_Home> gdm= input not supported on monitor
[02:35] <Teecee_Home> it is that way on my 19 and my dell 24"
[02:35] <xanavim> nevermind, I found it
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> Wow, this is wierd...
[02:35] <me> hell, its me
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> I've got Ubuntu running.  It runs everything I want and need
[02:35] <ubuntu> hi it's me
[02:35] <_jason> ubuntu: hi you
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> I've spent so much time trying to get linux setup...that now I don't know what to do
[02:35] <phreak97> Teecee_Home, i dont know how to do it properly, but you could plug in another monitor then chane the settings down then plug that one back in
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> It's like, what's my purpose?  Where do I go from here.
[02:35] <brenner> Teecee_Home: do you see a blue screen and get dumped to console-mode?
[02:35] <Rob_Dude> I'm scared...but excited.
[02:35] <bimberi> Curtman: Is something else mounted to that directory?  If not, Is there a shell with the current working directory of /media/tunes?
[02:36] <Curtman> bimberi: Nope.  It does it after a reboot, even if I boot into single user mode.
[02:36] <Teecee_Home> brenner: no. I see a black screen with "Input Not Supported" bouncing around directly after usplash is done
[02:36] <_jason> Curtman: have you tried mounting to a different directory?
[02:36] <Curtman> _jason, Yep.
[02:36] <ubuntu> Is Ubuntu run safty ? I didn't install any virus-protecter .
[02:36] <Teecee_Home> phreak97: I have 4 monitors, 3 dell 24" and 1 19"
[02:37] <phreak97> brenner, the not supported is displayed by his monitor because the display ubuntu is giving it is outside its specs
[02:37] <freebse> is the gcc 4.0 pakage broken in uuntu
[02:37] <FlannelKing> Teecee_Home: have you tried switching into a terminal? (ctrl-alt-f1)?
[02:37] <_jason> !linuxvirus
[02:37] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:37] <Curtman> _jason: I took the drive out and put it in another box, (gentoo) and it mounts fine.  Put it back in this one, and it just won't mount.
[02:37] <phreak97> Teecee_Home, ever used any of those in your ubuntu machine?
[02:37] <Teecee_Home> FlannelKing: which will be grub >?
[02:37] <brenner> Teecee_Home: phreak97 seems to know what's going on more than me. :-/
[02:37] <afonit> I did in the terminal gconf, that that did not bring up gconf, how do I get into gconf?
[02:37] <freebse> it is broken on every installation I did on every client we got here
[02:37] <FlannelKing> Teecee_Home: no, bash.  Wait for it to go "input not supported" then switch to a terminal.
[02:38] <brenner> Teecee_Home: but i suggest booting into recovery mopde and reconfigging xorg
[02:38] <Teecee_Home> ok there
[02:38] <warpzone> this is going to sound pretty dumb, but does anybody know where I can find a manual for 'vigr'? I have no clue how to use it
[02:38] <Teecee_Home> FlannelKing: I am there now
[02:38] <navarone> phreak97,  I found this thread (about Suse actually) that may shed some light on Teecee_Home 's prob  http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread27341-1.html
[02:38] <FlannelKing> Teecee_Home: now you just have to log in, then change your resolution.  I don't know how, but, that's the easy part.  There are tutorials and stuff.
[02:38] <_jason> Curtman: well if you are positive it isn't getting mounted elsewhere ('mount' command) I don't know what else to check
[02:39] <Teecee_Home> FlannelKing: thanks boss, I appreciate it
[02:39] <Curtman> _jason, Damn..  Neither do I.  That's why I came here.  :(
[02:39] <_jason> warpzone: 'man vigr'?
[02:39] <afonit> how does one access gconf?
[02:39] <phreak97> navarone, similar issue, but not exactly the same
[02:39] <_jason> Curtman: don't worry there are a lot of smarter people than me around, just ask again in a bit
[02:39] <brenner> _jason: interesting read.  good to know we're a hard target
[02:39] <warpzone> _jason: lol, I meant like, how to edit lines in vigr? man doesnt do much for it
[02:39] <navarone> Teecee_Home, are you using a lcd screen? They say lcd's require lower refresh rates than crt's...maybe you need to lower refresh rate
[02:39] <_jason> warpzone: what editor are you using?
[02:39] <phreak97> doesn anyone know how to change the gnome desktop resolution and monitor refresh via console?
[02:39] <bimberi> Curtman: an existing line in /etc/fstab getting in the way? (guessing)
[02:40] <Teecee_Home> navarone: yes I am
[02:40] <afonit> got it, it is gconf-editor
[02:40] <warpzone> _jason: trying to edit the groups using vigr
[02:40] <brenner> !fixres
[02:40] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:40] <brenner> phreak97, Teecee_Home : see above
[02:40] <Teecee_Home> already there, ty guys
[02:40] <Curtman> bimberi: in fstab, I have: "/dev/hdb1       /media/tunes    ext3    defaults        0       2", like it should be.  It used to mount fine.
[02:40] <GeorgeAScott> when i type make after ./configuring a program it tells me no targets are specified and no make file found.
[02:40] <_jason> warpzone: readlink -f $(which editor)
[02:41] <warpzone> _jason: thanks!
[02:41] <phreak97> alright, anyone want to help my problem now? :P\
[02:41] <jimcooncat> phreak97, i missed it
[02:41] <_jason> warpzone: ? that just tells you the editor (I think)
[02:41] <phreak97> jimcooncat, the progress bar on my brown ubuntu startup screen does nothing
[02:41] <bimberi> Curtman: does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb' list the partition?
[02:41] <jimcooncat> when first booting, or after login?
[02:42] <phreak97> while booting
[02:42] <brenner> this is weird...opening a link via right-click open in new tab in xchat opens the link in a new window w/ ff1.5
[02:42] <Mrono> hey guys
[02:42] <koloa> anyone know what lmysqlclient is?
[02:42] <koloa> i think i need it
[02:42] <Mrono> I know this is the ubuntu channel but mabye someone can help me
[02:42] <Curtman> bimberi: Yep.. It says "/dev/hdb1               1      155127    78183976+  83  Linux"
[02:42] <_jason> warpzone: my guess is you are using vi
[02:42] <brenner> GeorgeAScott: what are you attempting to insatll?
[02:42] <jimcooncat> dunno phreak97, but you can turn it off in grub and see just text
[02:42] <phreak97> jimcooncat, how so?
[02:42] <wastrel> brenner:  check  settings -> advanced -> url handlers   in xchat
[02:43] <GeorgeAScott> banshee 0.10.6
[02:43] <Mrono> i'm running kubuntu 5.10 with KDE 3.5.1 and I just installed my ubuntu ati drivers, now when I boot up and log in it freezes as soon as it loads, any ideas?
[02:43] <Curtman> bimberi: And 'lsof /dev/hdb1', and 'lsof /media/tunes' return nothing at all.
[02:43] <phreak97> how do i get into grub settings?
[02:43] <brenner> wastrel: what should i be looking for?
[02:43] <warpzone> _jason oooo gotcha, thought vigr was different from vi
[02:43] <jimcooncat> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:43] <brenner> wastrel: !firefox -a firefox -remote 'openURL(%s,new-tab)' lloks right to me...
[02:44] <_jason> warpzone: it uses whatever editor you tell it to
[02:44] <Syco54645> brenner: would this line help at all do you think? Modeline "1280x1024" 109.62  1280 1336 1472 1720  1024 1024 1026 1062
[02:44] <brenner> GeorgeAScott: i'm assuming you're not happy with the repo version?
[02:44] <bimberi> Curtman: 'lsof | grep /media/tunes' ?
[02:45] <FlannelKing> How does one list channels in irssi?  (what raw command gets the server to send me a list?)
[02:45] <jimcooncat> phreak97, I'm pretty sure you remove the "splash" from the kernel entries
[02:45] <GeorgeAScott> not really brenner.....
[02:45] <brenner> Syco54645: that's your modelin?  yes.  that is weird
[02:45] <Alexi5> ubuntu on my pc for 3-1/2 weeks now
[02:45] <jimcooncat> but not poistive
[02:45] <Alexi5> and no reboot
[02:45] <brenner> Syco54645: it should be Modeline "res" "res" "res"
[02:45] <pianoboy3333> Can I get some ATI help? (Dapper) No one is helping on #ubuntu+1...
[02:45] <Curtman> bimberi: Nothing.  There's no way that's the problem if it does it in single user mode.
[02:45] <Alexi5> can you guys check out a web application for me and tell me what you think
[02:45] <Syco54645> brenner: well no i just used an online modeline generator.  i am shooting in the dark when it comes to x
[02:46] <_jason> warpzone: apparently it just goes straight to vi if you don't have EDITOR set, you can do something like 'EDITOR=nano sudo vigr' to use nano.  Or just learn vi, it's great :)
[02:46] <Alexi5> http://kenalex.ath.cx/inet2/
[02:46] <pianoboy3333> Alexi5: sure
[02:46] <phreak97> jimcooncat, ok, thanks, i wont do it now, but ill remember it for the future, i gotta go now, late already
[02:46] <Teecee_Home> for those that helped, I appreciate it, I got it fixed
[02:46] <phreak97> ttyl
[02:46] <bimberi> Curtman: yeah, i'm struggling (as you can probably tell).  Sorry :/
[02:46] <Alexi5> username: ken
[02:46] <Curtman> bimberi: No problem.. Thanks for trying.  :)
[02:46] <jimcooncat> np phreak97
[02:46] <Alexi5> password:123
[02:46] <bimberi> Curtman: np :)
[02:46] <russellc> might anyone know where i can find a deb of libglib2.0-0 version 2.8.5?
[02:46] <russellc> or possibly a reliable repo with the updated version? :P
[02:47] <Alexi5> pianoboy3333:did the page open up
[02:47] <brenner> GeorgeAScott: and you're following this: http://banshee-project.org/Banshee_Source ?
[02:47] <pianoboy3333> Alexi5: yes
[02:47] <pianoboy3333> Can I get some ATI help? (Dapper) No one is helping on #ubuntu+1...
[02:47] <josh__> hello?
[02:47] <pianoboy3333> hi
[02:47] <brenner> Syco54645: actually the modeline should follow the format in here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:47] <gaud> hi
[02:47] <Alexi5> pianoboy3333:how does it look
[02:48] <josh__> i need help with installing nvidia drivers on this
[02:48] <gaud> I am new to windows and I'm searching a good php Editor
[02:48] <GeorgeAScott> let me double check...
[02:48] <warpzone> _jason: looking at a help page now. think I'll learn some actual Unix first, then come back to it. :-P learning overload atm.
[02:48] <gaud> sorry, I tought I was in php channel
[02:48] <dave> I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me if they have VGA drivers for VIA KM266 for ubuntu?
[02:48] <pianoboy3333> Alexi5: I think it looks very nice--yet I'm not a web programmer... nor do I know asp...
[02:48] <TigerDuck> Hi
[02:48] <brenner> gaud: heh. was about to say.
[02:48] <dave> Im currently sitting at 640x480 and cant seem to get the resolution upped?
[02:48] <_jason> warpzone: after learning about 10 or 20 commands you'll never use anything else
[02:49] <Alexi5> ok
[02:49] <dcode> debconf won't configure itself on my box...anyone have any clues on how to fix it?
[02:49] <josh__> can someone help me with installing drivers?
[02:49] <concept10> Alexi5, what type of web app are you writing?
[02:49] <wastrel> i love me some vi
[02:49] <brenner> dave: what current driver are you using?
[02:49] <Chrustinho> which program is able to copy cd with several data-sessions. k3b isn't able to do that
[02:49] <warpzone> _jason: I'll stay open about it. thanks for the help man
[02:49] <brenner> gee, heaps of display issues today
[02:49] <dejx> !tell dejx disable beep
[02:49] <dejx> :/
[02:49] <dave> Im not sure, I dont think I have any installed except off the 5.10 cd install
[02:49] <dejx> mmm:/
[02:49] <Alexi5> it is a customer management application app for internet service provider
[02:49] <TigerDuck> I wonder which virus scanner(s) you folks use on your boxes
[02:50] <dejx> how do i disable beep
[02:50] <josh__> yah i can download it but i just got linux up today and i'm a noob
[02:50] <dcode> I need some help getting debconf to configure...iteelf ironically
[02:50] <dejx> set somehing:/
[02:50] <pianoboy3333> Alexi5: it looks great :-)
[02:50] <dave> Im using an MSI micro atx motherboard, but the only drivers they have on the website are winX based (of course)
[02:50] <concept10> Alexi5, what are you writing that app with?
[02:50] <jimcooncat> TigerDuck, I use clamav for my email, works good for me
[02:50] <Alexi5> thanks pianoboy3333
[02:50] <josh__> yeah i'm using a gigabyte nforce 430 mobo
[02:50] <Alexi5> concept10 : asp.net
[02:50] <pianoboy3333> Alexi5: Your welcome
[02:51] <josh__> no support for linux
[02:51] <TigerDuck> jimcooncat: What version do you have?
[02:51] <sjbrown> anyone installed a wacom tablet here?
[02:51] <dejx> how do i disable beep?:)
[02:51] <jimcooncat> TigerDuck, whatever's current with Breezy
[02:51] <brenner> dave: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[02:51] <brenner> dave: what's the last line?
[02:51] <concept10> sjbrown, there is some info about installing that on the wiki
[02:52] <TigerDuck> jimcooncat: if you start clamscan it warns to be "outdated" and points you to http://www.clamav.net/faq.html
[02:52] <brenner> dejx: sys>prefs>sound>sys bell
[02:52] <dejx> isnt there some `set beep` something..:/ i forgot it
[02:52] <farous> !easysource
[02:53] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:53] <farous> !repos
[02:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:53] <sjbrown> the wiki mentions using the tar.gz wacom drivers.
[02:53] <farous> !easysource
[02:53] <sjbrown> i'd rather use the deb packages
[02:53] <jimcooncat> yes TigerDuck I know there's a good reason for it but don't recall where I saw it. Maybe has something to do with ubuntu versionin
[02:53] <liskl> i'm back
[02:53] <TigerDuck> jimcooncat: I see
[02:54] <jimcooncat> TigerDuck, you going to scan email for windows users with it?
[02:54] <wastrel> dejx:  in IRC?    set beep off
[02:54] <corvax>  /.
[02:54] <dave> brenner: the last line says:  Driver     "Savage"
[02:54] <dejx> no, in tty
[02:54] <TigerDuck> jimcooncat: I started wondering because clamAV does not report any viruses/worms on three files of a Microsoft Office 2003 installation
[02:54] <liskl> i love the new fluxbox .9.14-1, works good with xcompmgr and ubuntu 5.10
[02:54] <TigerDuck> jimcooncat: Funny thing is: Aegis Virus Scanner reports 3 worms
[02:54] <dave> whoops not capitalized
[02:54] <jimcooncat> which you know are infected?
[02:54] <brenner> dave: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:55] <TigerDuck> jimcooncat: Scanning the same files with clamAV (ubuntu) and AntiVir Personal Edition Classic 7 (WinXP) results in no detected worms
[02:55] <Toma-> liskl, indeed :)
[02:55] <jimcooncat> possibly Aegis is giving a false positive, or clamav doesn't feel its a threat.
[02:56] <TigerDuck> looks like it, yes.
[02:56] <Toma-> maybe Aegis is picking up spyware aswell?
[02:56] <TigerDuck> Toma-: Well, Office 2003 isn't commonly regarded as spyware, is it?
[02:56] <liskl> Toma, fluxbox blows gnome & kde outta the watter in speed even with all my eyecandy installed
[02:57] <Toma-> TigerDuck, in certain communitys, yes :P...
[02:57] <TigerDuck> 8o)
[02:57] <liskl> lol
[02:57] <lwarimav> salut
[02:57] <pudland> after boot-up, "session lasted only 10 sec......".  "_IceTrans" errors out the wazoo
[02:57] <Toma-> maybe its picking up some macros that come with it and saying "watch out!"
[02:57] <jimcooncat> TigerDuck, third party addon could
[02:57] <GeorgeAScott> i can get gtk+ 2.6 or 2.8 through synaptic manager can't I?
[02:57] <lwarimav> hi ther
[02:57] <TigerDuck> I wonder if anyone of you has access to Office 2003 installation files and could do a virus scan on it
[02:57] <Toma-> liskl, i run it on a 266mhz box and its ultra nice. :D
[02:58] <maxkelley> wow.. that was weird.
[02:58] <maxkelley> it just.. died on me
[02:58] <mangelo> deaded
[02:58] <Toma-> TigerDuck, can you turn off macro/docement scans in Aegis?
[02:58] <jimcooncat> sorry TigerDuck we're still using Access version from 1994
[02:59] <luite> is it possible to force a broadcom 5721 (gigabit pci express) nic to 10Mbps, even though it is connected to a gigabit switch?
[02:59] <liskl> Toma, that is slick i'm running it right now on a 500mhz toshiba laptop (precisly extracated from the laptop shell and placed inside of a old subwoofer box i had layin around)
[02:59] <mikebot> okay so i got it working i think
[02:59] <TigerDuck> Toma-: the "infected" files are MSVCR70.DLL, RECALL.DLL, and SCHPLUS.SAM .... don't look like macro based filed
[02:59] <Toma-> hehehe nice
[03:00] <robr> hi there,
[03:00] <TigerDuck> s/filed/files/
[03:00] <jimcooncat> luite, throttle the bandwidth to the connection?
[03:00] <mikebot> does anyone know how to make my nvidia card allow ubuntu to run at a higher resolution?
[03:00] <Toma-> TigerDuck, hmmm. the SAM file iirc, is a plain text doc...
[03:00] <robr> im having trouble installing, it says unable to mount root file system (0,0)
[03:00] <brenner> dave: still there?
[03:00] <dave> crud where do I find the pastebin again? Doh...I know its on the site someplace...
[03:00] <luite> jimcooncat: it's not possible to throttle incoming bandwith with linux
[03:00] <wastrel> TigerDuck:  why not md5sum your 3 "infected" files and get someone to check theirs
[03:00] <jimcooncat> Schedule Plus an old MS PIM
[03:01] <TigerDuck> wastrel: good point
[03:01] <mikebot> !tell mikebot nvidia
[03:01] <brenner> dave: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:01] <luite> jimcooncat: only by dropping packets, but I'd rather have them dropped earlier, at the switch
[03:01] <dave> thank you..
[03:01] <mikebot> does anyone know about geforce 4 cards?
[03:02] <_jason> mikebot: you probably need to be more specific
[03:02] <robr> can i please have some help installing, im getting an error: unable to mount root fs (0,0)
[03:02] <liskl> mikebot i'm running a 5700LE here
[03:02] <jpwic> hmm I tried running the live CD, and it told me GNOME could'nt find a monitor..
[03:02] <david> hey i need help. my time and my videos are too fast on my amd dualcore system
[03:02] <mikebot> _jason: okay, i haeva  geforce4, and right now ubuntu only allows my resolution to go to 1024x... but on windows i run at 1280x...
[03:02] <brenner> robr: the actual ubuntu install?
[03:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell mikebot about fixres
[03:03] <TigerDuck> Toma-: SCHPLUS.SAM is a binary, too
[03:03] <jpwic> is it because I'm running an ATI card?
[03:03] <Toma-> oic
[03:03] <robr> all ive done is press enter, then it errors
[03:03] <werther> ubotu, tell me about fixres
[03:03] <robr> ill get u the exact error
[03:03] <mikebot> _jason: thanks
[03:03] <liskl> ubotu: tell liskl about fixres
[03:03] <mikebot> how do i run commands?
[03:04] <dave> ok its sent brenner TIA for any help you may be able to offer
[03:05] <jimcooncat> TigerDuck, see http://www.kbalertz.com/kb_913323.aspx
[03:05] <GeorgeAScott> where do i get gtk+ 2.8 ?
[03:05] <ttread> mikebot, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[03:05] <jimcooncat> you may want to nose around CastleCops too
[03:05] <mikebot> thanks
[03:05] <mikebot> but do you guys know how to run commands?
[03:05] <Jivenix> anyone install the mono runtimes for ubuntu?
[03:05] <mikebot> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[03:05] <mikebot> like that kind of thing
[03:05] <Jivenix> ./
[03:05] <Jivenix> ./scriptname
[03:06] <robr> the first line which looks bad is: invalid compressed format (err=1). 2nd line ( last line). Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[03:06] <jimcooncat> mikebot, Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[03:06] <ttread> mikebot, start terminal from Applications -> Accessories
[03:06] <brenner> dave: dude. that's not your xorg.conf file unfortunately
[03:06] <mikebot> Jivenix: where do i type that?
[03:06] <dave> its not?
[03:06] <Jivenix> terminal
[03:06] <brenner> dave: type this: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:06] <mikebot> where is the terminal?
[03:06] <brenner> dave: no, that's just 3 lines. :)
[03:06] <Jivenix> jimbooncat just told you
[03:06] <Jivenix> cooncat even
[03:07] <mikebot> jimcooncat: ah didn't see that, thanks
[03:07] <khafra> Chroot for 32 bit apps: I tried the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:07] <jimcooncat> Jivenix, :-)
[03:07] <pianoboy3333> How do I find what version of X I have?
[03:07] <matthew_w> So I've done some looking
[03:07] <khafra> I put the chroot in /home/chroot instead of chroot to move it to my larger partition
[03:07] <HymnToLife> hi everyone :)
[03:07] <khafra> And I updated all the links, and updated hoary to breezy, but it didn't work
[03:07] <matthew_w> and I can't find anything in the way of Visual Compiling.  Like, drawing a window, having it output the code, etc.  Or even templates.
[03:08] <dave> Ahh there we are...
[03:08] <dave> thought that was a bit on the short side :o
[03:08] <HymnToLife> after the first step of a servr install, my Ubuntu won't boot to finish the install
[03:08] <trae> hey gang, I'd like to make a shortcut on my desktop to open up my gmail.  How would I go about that?
[03:08] <HymnToLife> I alwys get a "no inttab file found" message
[03:08] <dave> you want me to paste all of this into the bin?
[03:08] <dave> :o
[03:08] <amonkey> i'm trying to compile, but i get the error that install_sh@: Command not found, am i missing something?
[03:08] <stingray|> !nvidia
[03:08] <jimcooncat> matthew_w, depends on your language flavor
[03:08] <HymnToLife> any ideas ?
[03:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:08] <brenner> pianoboy3333: well, if you've installed the xserver: apt-cache show xserver-xorg | grep Version
[03:08] <matthew_w> jimcooncat; explain.
[03:08] <pianoboy3333> How do I find what version of X I have?
[03:08] <brenner> dave: yes
[03:09] <jimcooncat> matthew_w, like wxGlade if you're into python
[03:09] <robr> can someone help me with installation, im getting an error after i click enter: invalid compressed format (err=1). 2nd line ( last line). Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[03:09] <alarmyst> can someone tell me what is a working webcam for ubuntu?
[03:09] <ttread> pianoboy3333, try looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:09] <jimcooncat> there's regular Glade, and Tk for TCL
[03:09] <pianoboy3333> ok
[03:10] <jimcooncat> you can do some fun things with Openoffice too
[03:10] <dave> ok its posted...thats odd, it looks like there are several options for screen resolutions, but when I try to scroll through any from the systems options, it doesnt move through any others? O_o?
[03:10] <matthew_w> jimcooncat; oh?  I will have to check that out.  What's python similar to?
[03:10] <pomalley> hey guys, another help request: I had ubuntu working fine, but now the x window system won't start since I added my video card: ati x1300
[03:10] <IdleOne> dave post the url in here so ppl can look at it ()
[03:10] <matthew_w> pomalley; did you change to a DVI output?  Like for a flat screen monitor?
[03:10] <pomalley> nope, same output
[03:10] <jimcooncat> matthew_w, like javascript -- not
[03:11] <jimcooncat> but it's a scripting language
[03:11] <matthew_w> jimooncat o_O  SO, you can make programs with it that stand alone, yes>
[03:11] <jimcooncat> easy as any other to learn
[03:11] <pomalley> um, sorry, gotta run
[03:11] <pomalley> brb
[03:11] <matthew_w> pomalley; ok.
[03:11] <dave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9473
[03:11] <jimcooncat> matthew_w, yes, but it depends on your audience
[03:12] <matthew_w> jimcooncat; Also, it can compile in C++ now, apparently.
[03:12] <matthew_w> jimcooncat; or so it says in the installer.
[03:12] <jimcooncat> matthew_w, I just apt-get what I need
[03:12] <robr> can i get some help with installing please?
[03:13] <matthew_w> jimcooncat: When you say depends on my audience, what do you mean?  Like only linux users will be able to use it?
[03:13] <matthew_w> robr; what are you installing?
[03:13] <robr> ubuntu
[03:13] <alarmyst> no one here is using a webcam ? if no, which one ?
[03:13] <matthew_w> robr; Ok, what stage are you at?
[03:13] <mikebot> is there a way to access files on my ntfs hdd?
[03:13] <robr> i downloaded the iso ... i put in the cd, it gave me the option to press enter or type server, so i pressed enter then:
[03:13] <Madpilot> alarmyst, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam
[03:13] <mikebot> when i double click the hdd on my desktop it says..
[03:13] <jimcooncat> matthew_w, like you have to learn how to package for ubuntu, or for red hat, or for windows -- different techniques for each
[03:14] <robr> invalid compressed format (err=1). 2nd line ( last line). Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[03:14] <mikebot> that i don't have permission
[03:14] <amonkey> which package is kdialog in?
[03:14] <matthew_w> robr; hrm...
[03:14] <Madpilot> mikebot, right-click on the drive, hit Properties - who is listed as owner?
[03:14] <LycoLoco> mikebot: you can read them, but I wouldn't advise writing to it
[03:14] <khafra> I need a version of the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 with explanations
[03:14] <elkbuntu> alarmyst google for spca5xx and look at the table of cameras they support... that's just one driver, other drivers will support other cams
[03:14] <ttread> mikebot the linux kernel can read ntfs but can't write to it
[03:14] <robr> matthew_w: yea :/ its pretty od, i tried win xp pro and it seemed to start using the HD fine ...
[03:15] <matthew_w> robr; what kind of computer, and what kind of hard drive setup, etc?
[03:15] <pianoboy3333> Where do I wanna install fglrx to? What path?
[03:15] <alarmyst> elkbuntu nice tip
[03:15] <xerophyte> say for example your server has 2 drive . the server currently online using the boot partition on the /dev/sda .. is there anyway to switch the server to boot with boot /dev/sdb without going into the bios
[03:15] <LycoLoco> mikebot: have you mounted them?
[03:15] <mikebot> can i read them and save them on this partition?
[03:15] <mikebot> then write to those copies?
[03:15] <Madpilot> pianoboy3333, get the one out of Ubuntu's repos
[03:15] <frogfrogfrog> just installed kubuntu - i cant see the task bar only the icons on the desktop
[03:15] <robr> matthew_w: its an asus mobo, asus cd-r, amd cpu i think ...
[03:15] <Madpilot> mikebot, yes, you can copy stuff off NTFS drives
[03:15] <matthew_w> robr; I mean, is there anything special about how you have your hard drives set up
[03:15] <pianoboy3333> Madpilot: I'm having trouble with that...
[03:15] <mikebot> or do i have to like email them all to myself, then download them on this partition
[03:15] <brenner> dave: what res. do you want
[03:16] <pianoboy3333> Madpilot: (dapper)
[03:16] <matthew_w> robr; like, a few masters and slaves etc?
[03:16] <dave> 1024x768 would be nice
[03:16] <ttread> xerophyte, use grub and edit menu.lst
[03:16] <Madpilot> pianoboy3333, for dapper, try #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <mikebot> Madhow do i do that when it says i don't have permission to opent he folder?
[03:16] <pianoboy3333> Madpilot: no one is being helpful there
[03:16] <brenner> dave: do you need/want 3d support?
[03:16] <dave> but I could live with 800x600, this is just going to be a set it and forget it email and browser box for a friend
[03:16] <dave> no 3d required
[03:16] <Madpilot> mikebot, did you right-click on it like I asked?
[03:16] <Madpilot> !tell dave about fixres
[03:16] <mikebot> soryr no, didn't see that
[03:17] <musikera> hi I just want to ask regarding my laptop. I use Ubuntu linux
[03:17] <mikebot> file owner is root
[03:17] <robr> matthew_w: primary master = HD (Western Digital 80gb), primary slave = asus cd drive
[03:17] <jimcooncat> musikera, just ask
[03:17] <Madpilot> mikebot, have you read the mount howto in the wiki?
[03:17] <brenner> dave: i've fixed the resolution related lines.  replace the file with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9474
[03:18] <anthony> !pastebin
[03:18] <mikebot> Madpilot: i read the dualboot one, but not the mount
[03:18] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:18] <musikera> I have a sierra wireless aircard, is this device suppoted  by ubuntu linux
[03:18] <mikebot> Madpilot: did i mess up when i installed this?
[03:18] <brenner> dave: whoops. hang on
[03:18] <matthew_w> robr; and you're just pressing enter when the prompt comes up?  Wow that's strange.  I don't know what to tell you really X_X
[03:18] <Madpilot> !tell mikebot about mount
[03:18] <robr> matthew_w: yea :/ its od, and i did a slow burn as well
[03:19] <IdleOne> !tell musikera about wireless
[03:19] <brenner> dave: replace it with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9475
[03:19] <Hi^gh^Life> hey has anyone gotten the nforce410 chipset working?
[03:19] <kbrooks> Any GOOD applications packaged in ubuntu?
[03:19] <brenner> dave: if that doesn't work, follow the wiki Madpilot gave you the link to
[03:19] <Xenguy> kbrooks: none
[03:19] <ttread> Hi^gh^Life yes, I have
[03:19] <Hi^gh^Life> omg
[03:19] <Hi^gh^Life> yes
[03:19] <_jason> kbrooks: that's highly subjective
[03:19] <dave> ok thanks much appreciate the help all
[03:19] <Hi^gh^Life> which board?
[03:20] <ttread> I have a Biostar TForce-939 AMD64
[03:20] <Hi^gh^Life> OMG!!!
[03:20] <Hi^gh^Life> yes u are my savour
[03:20] <Hi^gh^Life> GIve info man
[03:20] <musikera> pls help me how can I use my sierra wireless aicard in ubuntu linux
[03:20] <robr> matthew_w: where should i go with this, like how should i go about getting help ...
[03:20] <Madpilot> !enter
[03:20] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:20] <Hi^gh^Life> im have been trying to get this working for a month or two now
[03:20] <ttread> I installed the NVIDIA driver from their website
[03:20] <Madpilot> musikera, IdleOne gave you a link that should help
[03:21] <matthew_w> robr; hrm.  Wow, I have no idea.  You can keep asking in here, maybe someone else would know.
[03:21] <Hi^gh^Life> really?
[03:21] <Hi^gh^Life> dapper or breezy?
[03:21] <mikebot> Madpilot: when i typed sudo mount /dev/hddi /backup
[03:21] <robr> matthew_w: should i mayb start a bug report? or?
[03:21] <ttread> Yes, works like a charm.  I am also using their driver for the onboard 6100 graphics
[03:21] <musikera> thanx madpilot
[03:21] <stoned> Madpilot, I can't seem to find the list of things that will be different in dapper from breezy
[03:21] <mikebot> it gave me the error: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:21] <stoned> Madpilot, do you know of such a resource, my keyword searching ablities suck I guess
[03:21] <ttread> I'm running Kubuntu Breezy AMD 64
[03:21] <matthew_w> robr; Nah, make sure the error doesn't exist between monitor and chair, like it usually does for me.
[03:22] <FlannelKing> matthew_w: actually, it's keyboard and chair, PEBKAC.
[03:22] <bubba_> mikebot, did you mean /dev/hdd1 or /dev/hddi ?
[03:22] <Hi^gh^Life> hmm ok
[03:22] <robr> matthew_w: ok
[03:22] <Hi^gh^Life> anything else special that u did?
[03:22] <mikebot> 1 i think
[03:22] <riddlebox> can you setup LVM after you install ubuntu?
[03:22] <Madpilot> stoned, some of it's here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[03:22] <Hi^gh^Life> or anything i should make sure i do
[03:22] <anthony> if i used the apt-get command to download wine, where is it's source code directory located?
[03:22] <Hi^gh^Life> i tryed it in breezy
[03:22] <robr> can i please have some with an error im getting installing ubuntu?
[03:23] <FlannelKing> robr: it's usually best to just ask about the error, instead of asking to ask.
[03:23] <Madpilot> mikebot, make sure your user owns /backup - even better, put /backup in your home directory
[03:23] <ttread> Hi^gh^Life the NVIDIA driver is a binary shell installer that you run from the console, and I needed to install some packages to build the kernel module
[03:23] <matthew_w> Does anyone know why the Ubuntu installer would return an error similar to the ones in GRUB when you have the mount points etc. set up badly?
[03:23] <mikebot> Madpilot: i don't really know how to do any of that
[03:23] <robr> flannelking: ok
[03:23] <Hi^gh^Life> yes like the gcc
[03:23] <ttread> The installer guide you through it kind of
[03:24] <ttread> Yeah the gcc and the kernel headers
[03:24] <tk> I  need to fix my sound some how.... it dies after running a video in Totem apparently (Rhythym box dont work) but if I log off/shutdown it plays the exit sound.....
[03:24] <Hi^gh^Life> yes hmm i tryed it today
[03:24] <Hi^gh^Life> didnt seem to work
[03:24] <mikebot> madpilot one seocnd, brb
[03:24] <ttread> You tried it and it didn't work?
[03:24] <Hi^gh^Life> 32bit dapper
[03:24] <Hi^gh^Life> yes
[03:24] <Hi^gh^Life> weird
[03:24] <ttread> What error did you get?
[03:24] <Hi^gh^Life> none it installed fine
[03:25] <Hi^gh^Life> but when it was done the xserver wouldnt start
[03:25] <Hi^gh^Life> i had to manually start it
[03:25] <robr> im trying to install ubuntu, after being asked to press enter or type server, i press enter then get this error: invalid compressed format (err=1). 2nd line ( last line). Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0). any help appreciated
[03:25] <Hi^gh^Life> like reconfigure and the startx
[03:25] <Syco54645> can someone please tell me the default fonts for gnome with ubuntu
[03:25] <stoned> Madpilot, there are two months left, I have always used sid, I do not know anything about how ubuntu works, haven't had time to read upon it, but is drake avilable for use atm?  just to check it out?  it would be cool if it was somewhat stable enough to test out as a desktop?
[03:25] <ttread> Did you install both drivers?
[03:25] <Syco54645> i changed them and want to change them back now
[03:25] <Hi^gh^Life> and then when i tryed to connect to my internet connection nothing happened
[03:25] <Hi^gh^Life> what do u mean both dirvers
[03:26] <ttread> There's a chipset driver and a graphics driver
[03:26] <bubba_> robr, sounds like a bad cd.
[03:26] <_jason> Syco54645: I think they are: sans, sans, sans bold, monospace.  That's what I have anyway
[03:26] <Madpilot> stoned, it's available, and apparently fairly stable... but if you're familiar with Debian sid, all the command line stuff is identical in Ubuntu - mounting & such
[03:26] <Hi^gh^Life> ohhhhhh
[03:26] <Hi^gh^Life> really
[03:26] <ttread> The chipset one is called 310 and the graphics is 8174, at least for my board
[03:26] <Hi^gh^Life> i must have only installed one
[03:26] <robr> bubba_ : i just redownloaded the iso and wrote it again
[03:26] <stoned> Madpilot, would I have to reinstall or can i go from breezy to badger using sources.list
[03:26] <Syco54645> _jason: ok thanks.  i just changed them all in an effort to make a bad resolution look better, and it worked
[03:26] <matthew_w> robr; if you're not in a hurry, you can order the CD's for free
[03:26] <ttread> Also make sure you get the 32-bit versions of the drivers
[03:27] <Madpilot> stoned, Breezy Badger is the same thing - Dapper Drake (or 6.04) is the new version in testing
[03:27] <robr> matthew_w: they'd ship them to New Zealand?
[03:27] <Hi^gh^Life> yes
[03:27] <bubba_> robr, I did that several times before i burned it on a different computer... then it worked...
[03:27] <Hi^gh^Life> do u think u could give me links
[03:27] <Hi^gh^Life> cus i could only find one
[03:27] <Madpilot> !tell robr about shipit
[03:27] <stoned> doh
[03:27] <dcode> I got some issues with debconf.  It tries to execute 'local' which apparently isn't installed on my system
[03:27] <Hi^gh^Life> here let me check agian
[03:27] <dcode> err 'locale' rather
[03:27] <stoned> Madpilot, typo, I mean from breezy to dapper
[03:27] <Madpilot> stoned, you can
[03:28] <Hi^gh^Life> is there a way i can contact u if i need your help in anyway?
[03:28] <robr> bubba_: seems really od though ... how can i get it wrong ... i just download and burn it ...
[03:28] <tk> anyone any good with sound problems?
[03:28] <Madpilot> !tell stoned about dapper
[03:28] <ttread> http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
[03:28] <dcode> how do I get 'locale' on my box or tell debconf to ignore it because I only speak english...(actually that's not true)
[03:28] <ttread> Yeah you can email me at theodore_3@yahoo.com
[03:28] <matthew_w> robr; yep!  But, you can reburn it on a different computer.  Make sure the file is write by checking the checksum, or md5 before you burn it.
[03:28] <dcode> !tell dcode about dapper
[03:28] <_jason> ttread: this channel is logged, expect spam :)
[03:28] <bubba_> robr, yeah.. i know... my old laptop reliably makes cd's that fail at some point.
[03:29] <ttread> Thanks _jason, I have a good spam filter
[03:29] <robr> :( ok ill try another computer
[03:29] <matthew_w> Here's a question, why do I have 2 sound drivers?  Like, ALSA, and OSS
[03:29] <matthew_w> I've had a lot of problems with getting sound to work properly on my linboxen.
[03:29] <_jason> ttread: you will find out :), I was just letting you know for the future
[03:29] <dcode> how do I install '/usr/bin/locale'?  packages.ubuntu.com sez it's in libc6, but I just installed that and got nichts
[03:30] <Q_Continuum> Sound is a secondary concern for me: first, I want my dual displays! lol
[03:30] <Hi^gh^Life> oh yeah did u get the sound drivers working?
[03:30] <Q_Continuum> Ng, you around by chance yet?
[03:30] <Hi^gh^Life> cus thats probably what i need most?
[03:30] <ttread> Hi^gh^Life I do have sound working mostly
[03:30] <Q_Continuum> Or anyone else done anything around enabling TwinView on an Nvidia card?
[03:30] <dejx> huh! how do i change layout in tty1_
[03:30] <dejx> ?
[03:30] <Q_Continuum> layout as in what dejx?
[03:30] <Hi^gh^Life> mostly?
[03:30] <ttread> The chipset driver includes a module called nvsound
[03:31] <Hi^gh^Life> define mostly
[03:31] <Hi^gh^Life> mmkay
[03:31] <_jason> dcode: dpkg-reconfigure locales, guessing :/
[03:31] <Jae686> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4754462.stm
[03:31] <ttread> Yeah I can play songs and have audio on movies, but my system notifications aren't working for some reason
[03:31] <dcode> _jason: thnx...I'll try that...
[03:31] <dejx> i want to use
[03:31] <dejx> english keyboard
[03:31] <Hi^gh^Life> hmm thats different
[03:31] <stoned> Q_Continuum, read the official nvidia twinview guide
[03:31] <dejx> but im stuck here on slovenian
[03:31] <jetscreamer> an example of enabled twinview, nvidia: http://hfds.com/debian_files/xorg.conf.txt
[03:31] <_jason> dcode: and maybe reinstall that package 'locales'
[03:31] <Hi^gh^Life> well at least u have the important stuff
[03:32] <jimcooncat> anyone know a good toolkit for making bootable CD's with custom software on it?
[03:32] <Hi^gh^Life> i guess this will be my project for tmmrw
[03:32] <Q_Continuum> stoned: do you know if it's posted on Nvida's site or something?  I've tried looking, I'll dig again.
[03:32] <Hi^gh^Life> good night
[03:32] <ttread> good luck with it
[03:32] <stoned> Q_Continuum, google
[03:32] <bubba_> I have a weird one... why does the headphone line in my mixer work like the master (and master does nothing ) ?
[03:32] <Hi^gh^Life> yep
[03:32] <Q_Continuum> stoned: I know.
[03:32] <dcode> _jason: no dice
[03:32] <dejx> ok
[03:32] <dejx> found it
[03:32] <jetscreamer> heh
[03:33] <stoned> http://linuxweblog.com/node/191
[03:33] <_jason> dcode: did it throw an error?
[03:33] <stoned> Q_Continuum, http://linuxweblog.com/node/191
[03:33] <anthony> if something is in zip format, how do i "unzip" it?
[03:33] <Syco54645> how can i change the resolution in gdm?
[03:33] <jetscreamer> try unzip
[03:33] <Q_Continuum> Thanks stoned, didn't see that one.
[03:33] <_jason> anthony: the archive manager will open it, or unzip
[03:33] <dcode> _jason: yes...sec...I'll pastebin it
[03:33] <stoned> Q_Continuum, use the link I gave you with officla nvidia driver documentation to construct your own xorg.conf
[03:34] <Q_Continuum> Roger, thanks!
[03:34] <jetscreamer> or just use the one i posted as a guide
[03:34] <Tigg0r> I am off ... thanks and good bye
[03:34] <Q_Continuum> tried two other howtos and neither worked. heh.
[03:34] <Madpilot> anthony, just double-click on it, the Archive Manager will start up
[03:34] <anthony> _jason: i don't have archive manager installed, is there a CLI way to do it?
[03:34] <_jason> anthony: 'unzip file'
[03:34] <jetscreamer> apt-get install unzip
[03:34] <Q_Continuum> jetscreamer, I'll also take a look at that, thanks!
[03:34] <jetscreamer> Q_Continuum: it works
[03:35] <liskl> on ubuntu how can i bring up azureus in a eterm
[03:35] <robr> thx for the help guys, going to format the drive im trying to install on before trying to install it ...
[03:35] <Madpilot> later, all
[03:35] <Syco54645> the reason that i ask is because right now it scrolls around for me to be able to see everything
[03:35] <anthony> jetscreamer, _jason: thanks
[03:36] <dcode> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9477
[03:36] <liskl> on ubuntu 5.10 how can i bring up azureus in a eterm?
[03:37] <muzik> does anybody know how to get a wireless router working as an access point
[03:37] <trebor15> i have a problem: i have installed ubuntu on the master hdd of my computer, and windows xp is on my slave hdd.  it worked before, but now when i restart and try and go into windows xp, i get the following error:
[03:37] <trebor15> it tells me that it is booting, and then shows this:
[03:37] <muzik> liskl just go to your azureus directory, and go ./azureus
[03:37] <trebor15> root (hd1,0)
[03:37] <trebor15>  Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[03:37] <trebor15> savedefault
[03:37] <trebor15> make active
[03:37] <trebor15> chainloader +1
[03:37] <_jason> dcode: you've reinstalled debconf and libc6?
[03:38] <_jason> trebor15: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , thanks
[03:38] <dcode> _jason: yes...I'm re-installing locales now...I copied /usr/bin/locale and /usr/bin/localedef from another box and hopefully this works
[03:39] <concept10> trebor15, that should be makeactive not make active
[03:39] <_jason> dcode: kludgy kludge kludge :)
[03:39] <tk> anyone able to help with jacked up sound problem?
[03:39] <trebor15> ya, sorry :P
[03:39] <jetscreamer> trebor15: do you have ntfs compiled into the initrd
[03:39] <jetscreamer> 7 is ntfs partition type btw
[03:40] <trebor15> jetscreamer: couldn't tell ya
[03:40] <ttread> trebor15, there is a bug in grub where sometimes the drive numbers get reversed
[03:40] <concept10> trebor15, change it and then run update-grub and then reboot into windows hell
[03:40] <jetscreamer> ttread: that's not a bug in grub
[03:40] <jetscreamer> that's udev
[03:40] <dcode> sheisse!
[03:40] <dcode> no dice
[03:40] <ttread> Ok I stand corrected
[03:40] <dcode> *grumble grumble*
[03:41] <jetscreamer> ttread: good udev rules fixes it
[03:41] <dcode> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9478
[03:41] <dcode> _jason: it worked better than it did...
[03:41] <dcode> but not it dies on python crap
[03:41] <ttread> jetscreamer, I have fixed it by editing the grub menu.lst
[03:41] <jetscreamer> yes... but that's just patching the symptom
[03:41] <_jason> dcode: is this a new install?
[03:41] <IdleOne> !tell dcode  about enter
[03:42] <dcode> damn python....always biting me in the ass (pun intended)
[03:42] <ttread> jetscreamer where do you edit udev rules?
[03:42] <jetscreamer> ttread: the docs are in /usr/share/doc/udev , or so
[03:42] <dcode> _jason: it's started from Dapper Flight2, and steadily updating :-!
[03:42] <ttread> ok thx jetscreamer
[03:42] <dcode> problem is, this is my project development box...as in...specifically this hardware
[03:43] <_jason> dcode: *continues guessing*: dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[03:43] <trebor15> so i should switch the primary and secondary hdds?
[03:44] <myki> What do you use for streamcast tv? Totem has terrible sound lags ;/
[03:44] <jetscreamer> another work around is to apt-get install yaird, apt-get remove udev.
[03:44] <dcode> LOL... /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: debconf is broken or not fully installed
[03:44] <_jason> dcode: you might want to try #ubuntu+1 for the dapper channel, maybe someone else had a similar problem
[03:44] <ttread> trebor15, I have fixed this problem in the past by editing the grub menu.lst and reversing the drive numbers, but jetscreamer tells me that it's better to edit the udev rules
[03:44] <dcode> _jason: thnx
[03:45] <jetscreamer> ttread: no i just told you that editing that is patching the symptom, not that it's better or worse
[03:45] <jetscreamer> ttread: if it works don't mess with it is my motto
[03:45] <TOZTWO> What version of XFree86 comes with Breezy?
[03:45] <tk> can anyone recommend something to fix my sound?
[03:45] <jetscreamer> probably none
[03:46] <jetscreamer> think xorg
[03:46] <trebor15> ttread: edit the udev rules?
[03:46] <KING_DIAMOND> hola
[03:46] <KING_DIAMOND> gente
[03:46] <TOZTWO> Thanx
[03:46] <jetscreamer> trebor15: what worked for me, ymmv:
[03:46] <kbrooks> TOZTWO, xfree86 is dead.
[03:46] <jetscreamer> another work around is to apt-get install yaird, apt-get remove udev.
[03:46] <anthony> whenever i  log into Gnome get this error:
[03:46] <anthony> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_Panel_WirelessApplet".
[03:46] <anthony>  anybody know the fix to this problem?
[03:47] <IdleOne> anthony:  remove the wireless applet you installed
[03:47] <peery> is there a way to get the 2.6.13 kernel on an install of ubuntu?
[03:47] <freebse> peery: compile it
[03:48] <peery> freebse: :-) beside that. I guess I can't apt-get it...
[03:48] <FlannelKing> peery: it's in dapper.  If that's any consolation
[03:48] <tk> how can I reset my sound since it seems to have died after playing an AVI in totem?
[03:48] <peery> FlannelKing: dapper?
[03:49] <IdleOne> isnt there a apt-get package v=versionnumber?
[03:49] <FlannelKing> peery: Ubuntu 6.04 "Dapper Drake"
[03:49] <anthony> IdleOne: all i installed was xserver-xorg, gnome-core, gaim, xfonts-base, xchat, gdm, and synaptic, i didn't install any wireless applet, but i do have a wireless card on my desktop and i would like to use it. anyways, back to the problem, i did not install any wireless applet.
[03:49] <IdleOne> anthony:  then its something with the wireless card causing that error
[03:49] <tk> it spossible it tried to plug and play it? linux does that these days
[03:50] <freebse> peery: exactly... but you can take the one from debian :) *ggg >>> ja I know I should not mention D.b.i.n :) but this works
[03:50] <ubuntu> hola como estan
[03:50] <IdleOne> hola ubuntu
[03:50] <IdleOne> !es
[03:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:50] <Jae686> hola
[03:50] <ubuntu> de donde son yo estoy en calama chile
[03:51] <peery> freebse: if I add debian sources to my source.list will they be compatible and not break anything?
[03:51] <freebse> peery: besides you will lose ubuntu's own made changes to the kernel
[03:51] <ubuntu> who
[03:51] <IdleOne> ubntu aqui es un canal ingles por favor ablas in ingles o usas /join #ubuntu-es ()
[03:51] <ubuntu> hay alguin de chile
[03:51] <IdleOne> no creo
[03:51] <tk> ok... is there anywhere ELSE I can get help wiuth my sound problem?
[03:52] <ubuntu> de donde eres
[03:52] <FlannelKing> peery: No, don't mix debian and ubuntu.  What do you use your box for?
[03:52] <freebse> peery: it is dangerous to use debian sources on ubuntu... I won't advise you to do so... it worked for me, but you could also run in trouble...
[03:52] <blt4mud> anyone here using ubuntu on a laptop with wireless?
[03:52] <IdleOne> !tell blt4mud  about wireless
[03:52] <anthony> !wireless
[03:52] <peery> FlannelKing: I need to use inotify (or dnotify) which is included in 2.6.13
[03:52] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:52] <tk> I'm not using the wireless but I am on a laptop with wireless and ubuntu does that count? :P
[03:52] <sampan> what's the command for stopping/restarting cups?  (i had to turn off my printer to put in new toner and now it's not printing -- restarting cups might return it to functionality?)
[03:52] <freebse> forget what I said, don't use the debian kernel on ubuntu, I just said it is possible, but it is not good to do so
[03:53] <ubuntu> que paso lokito
[03:53] <peery> freebse: I thought debian and ubuntu where like tightly coupled? it sounds like this isn't so or starting to lean that way
[03:53] <xiaoyu> my totem can not  play RMVB file,but mplayer could how to let totem play rmvb file
[03:53] <FlannelKing> peery: you could always switch to dapper.  It's mostly stable.  (or at the very least, take a look at dapper and decide if you're willing to upgrade early)
[03:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell tk about support
[03:53] <wastrel> sampan:  try sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[03:54] <jetscreamer> /etc/init.d/cup<tab> restart
[03:54] <sampan> wastrel  and jetscreamer thanks :)
[03:54] <ubuntu> solo se que nada se
[03:54] <jetscreamer> !es
[03:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:54] <liskl_> mplayer states that it can't find master: 0
[03:54] <peery> FlannelKing: how do I do that? does it require a new full install?
[03:54] <quicken> hello all I am new 2 umbuntu & need 2 open the rpm package & cant
[03:54] <liskl_> any ideas on how to fix it?
[03:54] <_jason> ubotu: escreve: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:54] <ubotu> _jason: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:54] <xiaoyu> my totem can not  play RMVB file,but mplayer could how to let totem play rmvb file
[03:54] <blt4mud> thanks
[03:54] <freebse> peery: ubuntu made changes to the default kernel, but at my place I alleays use debian kernel with ubuntu... but I can not say if I use debian or ubuntu... but there arte problems... so better don';t mix it like everybody else advise you in here
[03:54] <_jason> erm
[03:54] <ubuntu> www.itekchile.com
[03:54] <_jason> ubuntu: escreve: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:55] <jetscreamer> !pt
[03:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:55] <jetscreamer> jsut in case
[03:55] <brycer> hello.  first time trying irc.  test entry.
[03:55] <quicken> where can I download the code to run rpm files on umbuntu?
[03:55] <pudland> after boot-up, "session lasted only 10 sec......".  "_IceTrans" errors out the wazoo. help??
[03:55] <FlannelKing> peery: nope, it's pretty easy.   I don't have instructions on me at the moment, they might be in the forums (or, probably are), someone here might also have a link.
[03:55] <_jason> xiaoyu: try totem-xine but I don't know whata  rmvb file is
[03:55] <ubuntu> orale
[03:55] <quicken> rpm
[03:55] <blrich> can someone help? upgraded to dapper, everything works fine but i'm having trouble with the gnome panel. when i enter gnome, the top panel is frozen, doesn't respond to mouse clicks, and has no applets running on it etc (just has menus). if i kill/restart it, same thing
[03:55] <ubuntu> muchachotes como estan en el chat
[03:55] <peery> FlannelKing: okay, thanks. I'll try to smoke them out
[03:55] <ubuntu> rgreg
[03:55] <ubuntu> dter
[03:55] <ubuntu> gfdfgdf
[03:56] <blrich> i think it's a session problem, or a problem with one of the panel applets
[03:56] <_jason> quicken: that is not recommended and should be avoided if possible, what are you trying to install?
[03:56] <jetscreamer> no ayuda aqui /join #ubuntu-es
[03:56] <ubuntu> yes
[03:56] <FlannelKing> peery: I'd try checking out the forums, since you'll also be able to get a feel for what's still unstable with dapper.
[03:56] <quicken> I need 2 install limewire
[03:56] <jetscreamer> why
[03:56] <ubuntu> hoy mate a dos delincuentes
[03:56] <_jason> blrich: try a making a new user and see if it happens there
[03:56] <quicken> because bit-torent sucks
[03:57] <anthony> what's the application/package that allows you monitor your network activity (you know, like there are two computers and when your network is busy, it lights up) and configure your wireless (such as WPA and such), i'm asking 'cause i did a server install so those applications are not installed by default
[03:57] <ubuntu> maana tengo programadas 3 muertes mas
[03:57] <ech0wave> I'm attempting to mess around in the shell and I try and do a command like *update-rc.d -f gdm remove* which makes ubuntu load into a text mode and it is telling me that"permission denied" any ideas?
[03:57] <blrich> _jason, good idea i'll try
[03:57] <jetscreamer> !info azureus
[03:57] <jetscreamer> omg
[03:57] <anthony> but i remember seening them when did a default install of ubuntu
[03:57] <_jason> ubuntu: por favor escreve: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:57] <jetscreamer> !azureus
[03:57] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:57] <atoponce> anthong, ethereal
[03:57] <ubuntu> www.cuarta.cl
[03:57] <ubuntu> uffffffffffffffffffff
[03:57] <anthony> atoponce: thanks
[03:57] <jetscreamer> cayete guey
[03:57] <brycer> question:  i've got my system dual-booting slackware and daper drake.  My chaintech av710 soundcard is fine in slack but no sound in ubuntu.  i've tried everything i could find googling.  no luck.
[03:58] <FlannelKing> ech0wave: assuming you know what you're doing with the update shindig, you probably need a sudo.
[03:58] <_jason> brycer: try #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[03:58] <quicken> anyway I also want 2 be able 2 run an emulator for exe files & it probly will give me an rpm file :(
[03:58] <atoponce> brycer, is your sound on the mobo?
[03:58] <ubuntu>  you probably need a sudo
[03:58] <ubuntu> question:  i've got my system dual-booting slackware and daper drake.  My chaintech av710 soundcard is fine in slack but no sound in ubuntu.  i've tried everything i could find googling.  no luck.
[03:58] <ech0wave> FlannelKing: thanks...sudo...off to google...
[03:58] <brycer> atoponce- no.  i've got a chaintech av710 pci sound card.
[03:58] <atoponce> ahh, you said that :)
[03:59] <liskl_> anyone have any idea as to how to fix this problem with mplayer / alsa? 'alsa-space xrun of at least 0.00X msecs. resetting stream'
[03:59] <quicken> can any1 suggest a good site with freeware for a windows emulator for linux?
[03:59] <atoponce> is alsa running in dapper?
[03:59] <jetscreamer> lol it speaks
[03:59] <liskl_> no breezy badger
[03:59] <rikai> reboot.
[03:59] <twilight> quicken: try searching the forum for VMware
[03:59] <quicken> I just installed umbuntu & everything works great :p
[03:59] <eob84> quicken, ar you running games or windows apps?
[03:59] <Guardiann> good evening
[03:59] <quicken> game
[03:59] <quicken> and an irc server
[04:00] <mebaran151_> anybody here run screem?
[04:00] <eob84> quicken, do you know how to compile applications?
[04:00] <brycer> i think alsa is running.  how do i verify?
[04:00] <quicken> not a clue
[04:00] <liskl_> anyone have any idea as to how to fix this problem with mplayer / alsa? 'alsa-space xrun of at least 0.00X msecs. resetting stream'?
[04:00] <eob84> quicken, which game?
[04:00] <quicken> just started umbuntu about hour ago
[04:00] <Mantice> Yay
[04:00] <quicken> bloodscape
[04:00] <Mantice> I got my broadband working
[04:00] <FlannelKing> quicken: why windows for an irc server?  linux has lots, unless you need a particular server
[04:00] <eob84> quicken, k... try cedega
[04:00] <quicken> they dont got a linux version its in c+ coding
[04:01] <Mantice> How do you install a .run file
[04:01] <eob84> quicken, if you want binary packages you have to buy it... you can compile it your self
[04:01] <atoponce> brycer, can you modify your volume in gnome? if so, it's running.
[04:01] <Mantice> !run
[04:01] <mebaran151_> Mantice, probably sh file.run
[04:01] <eob84> sh file.run
[04:01] <quicken> cedega? I google that?
[04:01] <eob84> quicken, yea
[04:01] <glacious> hrmm.  i installed a new power supply, and Ubuntu works fine, but Windows, at the login screen my KB + mouse don't work.
[04:01] <bubba_> Mantice, sudo ./.run
[04:01] <quicken> wel lI do know there are emulators, just looking for a freebee
[04:01] <glacious> i wonder what could be up...  besides it being windows and all ;)
[04:01] <mebaran151_> what does everyone here use to do WebDevelopment
[04:01] <matthew_w> Is there any reliable program for using and reading guitar tabs for Ubuntu?
[04:02] <eob84> quicken, well you can try wine
[04:02] <brycer> yes.  i can change the volume...but no sound.
[04:02] <eob84> quicken, cedega is better for games
[04:02] <quicken> trying 2 d/l that why I wanted limewire :)
[04:02] <matthew_w> mebaran151;  nvu,  or  screem
[04:02] <FlannelKing> mebaran151_: a text editor, vi, scite, whatever your preffered text editor is
[04:02] <mebaran151_> I was going to use screem
[04:02] <mebaran151_> but it won't start
[04:02] <elkbuntu> mebaran151_, quanta+
[04:02] <mebaran151_> always crashes without a trace, even in terminal
[04:02] <eob84> quicken, if you want I can walk through the compile process for the cvs cedega
[04:03] <bubba_> i can change the volume on my computer... i just use the headphone control, instead of volume.. weird huh.
[04:03] <mebaran151_> I'd prefer to use screem, as it fits with gnome better
[04:03] <Mantice> sh worked
[04:03] <kameron> anyone running dvorak layout?
[04:03] <ttread> matthew_w have you looked at songwrite
[04:03] <atoponce> brycer, then i don't know.  i'm not familiar with that sound card, and i haven't dabbled in dapper yet.  maybe #ubuntu+1 will have better help?
[04:04] <brycer> i think i'll work on it some more solo tomorrow.  thanks.
[04:04] <pianoboy3333> Are there any CLI-based IRC clients?
[04:04] <atoponce> np
[04:04] <pudland> after boot-up, "session lasted only 10 sec......".  "_IceTrans" errors out the wazoo. help??
[04:04] <FlannelKing> pianoboy3333: irssi!
[04:04] <matthew_w> I'll try it
[04:04] <tga> pianoboy3333, indeed, irssi
[04:04] <pianoboy3333> ok, kool, ths
[04:04] <pianoboy3333> *thx
[04:04] <tga> pianoboy3333, sudo apt-get install irssi-text
[04:05] <ech0wave> **I keep trying to type commads and I have changed my password in the shell but it just asked me if i was a root????**
[04:05] <sir_quicken> problem, wine in in a rpm & I cant open them :(
[04:05] <sir_quicken> what is umbuntu? red hat drake? or somthing else
[04:05] <_jason> ech0wave: what is 'it'?  what are you doing?
[04:05] <eob84> sir_quicken, do this sudo apt-get install wine
[04:05] <bubba_> ech0wave, i have no idea what your doing, but im sure its wrong.
[04:05] <Mantice> www.google.com
[04:06] <tga> there must be something in the air tonight
[04:06] <matthew_w> Oh god no
[04:06] <sir_quicken> do that where in terminal?
[04:06] <matthew_w> The same thing happened to me the last time I tried to install this
[04:06] <eob84> yes
[04:06] <matthew_w> lilypond pre install returns error status 1
[04:06] <matthew_w> and then no matter what I do I simply can't get rid of lilypond
[04:06] <FlannelKing> sir_quicken: ubuntu is apt based.  And there's also a package (although I can't remember what it is) to convert rpm to deb
[04:06] <ech0wave> the shell itself im trying to have linux boot to a console but even trying to run updates i cant get any commands to work at all
[04:06] <ech0wave> *in the shell that is*
[04:06] <tga> FlannelKing, sir_quicken: it's called alien
[04:07] <atoponce> FlannelKing, alien
[04:07] <eob84> anyone here have Unreal Tournament on ubuntu?
[04:07] <_jason> ech0wave: what commands
[04:07] <ech0wave> apt-get update
[04:07] <sir_quicken> I can d/l diffrent types freeBSD mandrake red hat source & more, this seems liek a BSD
[04:07] <_jason> ech0wave: sudo apt-get update
[04:07] <_jason> ubotu: tell ech0wave about sudo
[04:07] <liskl_> temporary fix for mplayer alsa-space error "mplayer -ao sdl file.mp3"
[04:07] <twitch101> is there a ppf applier for linux?
[04:07] <ech0wave> but it keeps saying im not authorized "permission denied"
[04:08] <eob84> sudo apt-get update
[04:08] <_jason> liskl_: you can set srate=48000 to fix that
[04:08] <matthew_w> What on earth is "kpsewitch"
[04:08] <twitch101> is there a ppf applier for linux?
[04:08] <sir_quicken> ah got it updating
[04:08] <matthew_w> or
[04:08] <liskl_> _jason:i can and still use alsa?
[04:08] <matthew_w> kpsewhich
[04:08] <ech0wave> i thought i got a sudo by changing the password in su
[04:08] <_jason> ech0wave: are you using the user you created during the install?
[04:08] <_jason> liskl_: yep, worked for me anyway
[04:08] <pomalley> matthew_w: i'm back. sorry. with the video card problem?
[04:08] <ech0wave> yes i am
[04:08] <bubba_> twitch101, do you mean a pdf viewer ?
[04:09] <sir_quicken> if you made another user he dont have admin access
[04:09] <twitch101> i mean something to a apply a ppf patch
[04:09] <sir_quicken> that I do know :)
[04:09] <_jason> ech0wave: did you do a normal install or did you do expert?
[04:09] <FlannelKing> twitch101: what's a ppf patch? (images?)
[04:09] <ech0wave> noraml
[04:09] <eob84> sir_quicken, you may need to edit your sources.lst to "unlcock" more packages
[04:09] <_jason> ech0wave: paste the output of the command 'groups'
[04:09] <FlannelKing> oh, playstation patch?
[04:09] <ech0wave> k one sec
[04:09] <twitch101> not playstation patch
[04:09] <matthew_w> pomalley; sure.
[04:09] <twitch101> something like ppf-o-matic
[04:10] <sir_quicken> can you tell me what platform gpg files are? from there i can do it easy
[04:10] <twitch101> there is a bunch of them for windows
[04:10] <ech0wave> ech0wave adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[04:10] <matthew_w> pomalley; not sure about ati, I use nvidia, you should make sure you have the latest drivers, first of all.
[04:10] <matthew_w> !ati
[04:10] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:10] <drgreborn> i have a problem with eclipse, Error creating feature "file:/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.pde.source_3.1.1/". [/usr/lib/eclipse/features/org.eclipse.pde.source_3.1.1/feature.xml (No such file or directory)] 
[04:10] <_jason> ech0wave: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?
[04:10] <pomalley> matthew_w: thanks
[04:10] <liskl_> _jason:please restate fix for alsaspace problem
[04:10] <drgreborn> is it bacause it has no write access to the directory?
[04:10] <FlannelKing> twitch101: google says there's one called ppf4Linux, butthere are also a lot more
[04:10] <sir_quicken> try & see :P
[04:10] <drgreborn> how do I fix this?
[04:10] <_jason> liskl_: you can set srate=48000 to fix that
[04:10] <graft> anyone up on KDE at all?
[04:10] <FlannelKing> twitch101: I googled ["playstation patch" linux] 
[04:10] <ech0wave> i dunno am i supposed to....
[04:10] <_jason> liskl_: put that in ~/.mplayer/config
[04:11] <graft> spcifically, how do i call up the config dialog for media autorun?
[04:11] <_jason> ech0wave: huh?
[04:11] <twitch101> its not playstation patch
[04:11] <matthew_w> pomalley; if apt-getting the drivers doesn't work, let me know
[04:11] <riddlebox> is it there a way to find out why I cannot use anything with sound right now? everything says something has /dev/dsp?
[04:11] <sir_quicken> I guess I attempt 2 d/l files til lI see a gpg file :P
[04:11] <FlannelKing> twitch101: that's what ppf-o-matic claims to do.  so, what are you looking for exactly?
[04:11] <ech0wave> that was what happened when i typed groups
[04:11] <eob84> I am trying to run the unreal tournament install script... but each time I run it nothing happens... can anyone help me with this?
[04:12] <linux_user400354> is there a vnc channel?
[04:12] <_jason> ech0wave: what does 'sudo echo hi' do?
[04:12] <ech0wave> where do u see "sudo echo hi"
[04:12] <_jason> ech0wave: type that as a command
[04:12] <linux_user400354> i keep getting disconnected from vnc and a error message is getting printed in terminal
[04:12] <ech0wave> it says hi
[04:12] <graft> man no one ever answers my questions...
[04:13] <eob84> graft, what is your question?
[04:13] <graft> i don't give off the right cluelessness waves
[04:13] <linux_user400354> graft try #kubuntu
[04:13] <graft> how do i call up the media autorun config dialog in KDE
[04:13] <graft> #kubuntu sucks
[04:13] <bubba_> ech0wave, sudo is a command to temprorarily be root  for a specific command,  echo displays text onto the consol, hi means hello
[04:13] <liskl_> _jason: you rock bigtime
[04:13] <graft> no one is ever active there
[04:13] <biovore> graft: media autorun?
[04:13] <ttread> graft, I am running Kubuntu and I every CD I put in opens a window
[04:13] <linux_user400354> graft, id tell you the answer if i knew it
[04:13] <_jason> ech0wave: paste the errors you get with 'sudo apt-get update' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:13] <sir_quicken> Question can I run tbz files in umbuntu?
[04:13] <eob84> graft, media auto run... you need to be more specific
[04:14] <graft> ttread: yeah, how do i call that window up any other time?
[04:14] <_JECKEL_> hi all
[04:14] <sir_quicken> ello
[04:14] <ech0wave> ok thx
[04:14] <graft> um... eob84 when you stick in a DVD or something, it does some auto-play sort of thing
[04:14] <biovore> graft: konqueror | Storage Media
[04:14] <ttread> graft, I don't know
[04:14] <eob84> sir_quicken, not as a package... each platform usually has there own binary package format
[04:14] <_JECKEL_> anyone have any experience in making MUD's?
[04:14] <graft> biovore: ah... cool lemme try that
[04:14] <Rob_Dude> Hi all
[04:14] <eob84> graft, that won't work in linux... only in windows... most of the splashes are in windows... or mac format
[04:14] <sir_quicken> yeah I am trying 2 find what binarys I can open, htis si freebsd
[04:14] <IdleOne> heya Rob_Dude
[04:14] <biovore> graft: you can also look under /media on your filesystem
[04:15] <graft> eob84: no, it' doesn't run autorun.inf or something
[04:15] <biovore> graft: this is not windows!!!
[04:15] <ech0wave> Holy shit as soon as i typed sudo in front of it everything worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:15] <graft> it just runs some pre-defined actionbased on the media type
[04:15] <eob84> sir_quicken, *.deb is the binary backage for ubuntu
[04:15] <sir_quicken> ah thx
[04:15] <ech0wave> *wow im a n00b*
[04:15] <eob84> sir_quicken, do you know how to use apt
[04:15] <biovore> graft: that define via the file associations in kde
[04:15] <IdleOne> ech0wave:  we are all happy for you but please keep the language G rated ()
[04:16] <graft> biovore: no, it's not a -file- association, it recognizes the media type... DVD, video CD, etc.
[04:16] <ttread> graft, what is it you're trying to do?
[04:16] <_jason> ech0wave: sudo gives you superuser privileges, read your private messages from ubotu :)
[04:16] <sir_quicken> I do now
[04:16] <riddlebox> can someone help me find out why I cannot use any application with sound, I am always told /dev/dsp is busy?
[04:16] <graft> ttread: i just want to get that dialog you get when you stick in an audio CD
[04:16] <sir_quicken> dont think it will run rpms :(
[04:16] <biovore> graft: then I am not realy understanding what you want then..
[04:16] <graft> from the command line
[04:16] <graft> or somehow
[04:16] <graft> i mean i want to launch that dialog, but i can't figure out how
[04:16] <eob84> biovore, he wants to run splash screens off cd's using auto run... it won't work in linux
[04:16] <nitrox> hello
[04:16] <sir_quicken> sudo apt-get install filename :P
[04:17] <graft> eob84: no, i don't want to do that
[04:17] <biovore> eob84: ah got ya
[04:17] <graft> KDE has a feature where if you stick  in a DVD, it'll, for example, play it in mplayer
[04:17] <nitrox> Anyone in here running Cygwin and Putty
[04:17] <eob84> graft, no
[04:17] <biovore> graft: there is no autorun in linux
[04:17] <Crshman> well i'll just throw this out, i have ubuntu on my toshiba laptop, works GREAT btw, however i can't see charge/discharge TIMES in the battery status, any ideas?
[04:17] <eob84> graft, sorry that is what I thought you said
[04:17] <FlannelKing> he wants to bring up the dialog he gets when he puts a DVD in.
[04:17] <ech0wave> thx everbody
[04:17] <eob84> graft, ok be very specific describe the problem to me
[04:17] <ech0wave> *thanks everybody*
[04:17] <mikebot> could someone help me witht he following error: after i did what the nvidia tutorial said to do (downloaded some packages and installed them then ctrl+alt+backspace to reset X or something), i had to restart, and I got this error: "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[04:17] <FlannelKing> KDE autodetects what sort of disc it is, and does stuff based on that.  He wants to configure that.
[04:17] <LiteHedded> have you guys seen the big lebowski?
[04:18] <graft> exactly what FlannelKing just said
[04:18] <bubba_> Crshman, did you disable acpi to get your laptop to work ?
[04:18] <biovore> graft: you might be able to get it to do that.. it dosn't do that out of the box
[04:18] <sir_quicken> I need 2 find what platform .deb is, im laggin does umbuntu have required speed & ram?
[04:18] <LiteHedded> what did you think of it?
[04:18] <_jason> LiteHedded: #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[04:18] <graft> biovore: yeah, kde 3.5 does it out of the box
[04:18] <LiteHedded> :)
[04:18] <FlannelKing> graft, try #kde ;) heh
[04:18] <Crshman> no, not that i'm aware of, i'm pretty sure it is enabled, unless i need to set somewhere acpi=on or whatnot
[04:18] <graft> hmm
[04:18] <biovore> graft: my kde 3.5 dosn't
[04:18] <FlannelKing> graft: think you'll have more luck there
[04:18] <linux_user400354> can anyone help me with this problem? http://sial.org/pbot/16070
[04:18] <gopi> When I tried to install mythtv... Iam getting an error....
[04:18] <eob84> graft, hmm I don't use KDE... so I don't know how to configure KDE specific settings
[04:18] <nitrox> Anyone running Cygwin and Putty
[04:18] <graft> good point, FlannelKing .. lemme try that
[04:18] <ttread> graft, the window I get is called KDE daemon
[04:18] <gopi> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:18] <gopi>   mythtv: Depends: mythtv-frontend (= 0.18.1-5) but it is not going to be installed
[04:18] <gopi>           Depends: mythtv-backend (= 0.18.1-5) but it is not going to be installed
[04:18] <gopi> E: Broken packages
[04:18] <sir_quicken> I can open tar.gz files right?
[04:19] <eob84> yea
[04:19] <atoponce> nitrox, i do at work.  what's up?
[04:19] <FlannelKing> nitrox: putty, why would you run putty in cygwin?
[04:19] <_jason> sir_quicken: right, just double click
[04:19] <graft> ttread: can you figure out what the executable is, via ps or something?
[04:19] <ttread> I was just trying to do that
[04:19] <mikebot> could someone please help me with an nvidia error? i can only access command prompts with ubuntu now
[04:19] <IdleOne> gopi: sudo apt-get -f packagename
[04:19] <eob84> so can anyone help with my issue
[04:19] <nitrox> Flannelking is it faster than VNC...?
[04:19] <eob84> I am trying to run a shell script
[04:19] <Crshman> bubba_: no, not that i'm aware of, i'm pretty sure it is enabled, unless i need to set somewhere acpi=on or whatnot
[04:19] <eob84> or I mean a .run file
[04:19] <sir_quicken> ah I gotta d/l right platform binary still damn it :p
[04:19] <FlannelKing> nitrox: if you're running putty, it's native windows.
[04:19] <eob84> and it just does nothing
[04:19] <_jason> eob84: what does it do?
[04:20] <ttread> graft, it's kded
[04:20] <biovore> eob84: ./script-name?
[04:20] <eob84> it says this
[04:20] <atoponce> nitrox, text is always faster than the gui
[04:20] <eob84> Uncompressing Unreal Tournament version 428 Linux installtrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 
[04:20] <eob84> ut-install-428.run
[04:20] <gopi> IdleOne: packagename is ?
[04:20] <biovore> yeah.. old UT99 installer
[04:20] <mikebot> FlannelKing: do you know about installing nvidia stuff in ubuntu?
[04:20] <bubba_> Crshman, acpi runs things like your battery monitor... check that out... i had issues with my acpi, and had to tweek  a bunch of things...
[04:20] <nitrox> Flannelking: I got a BSD box and dual display on windows and want to use on my screen to view my BSD box
[04:20] <biovore> eob84: try ./ut-install-428.run should just work
[04:20] <sir_quicken> Hey they got an unbuntu package YAY!!
[04:20] <IdleOne> gopi: sudo apt-get -f install mythtv
[04:20] <sir_quicken> whoot whoot
[04:21] <FlannelKing> mikebot: um, beyond the nvidia package? nope sorry.  Theres a helper config program too, I know that.
[04:21] <Crshman> bubba_: do i need to specifically enable it? i can see percentages, but not time
[04:21] <eob84> biovore, tells me command not found
[04:21] <sir_quicken> ok thx 4 help all l8tr
[04:21] <mikebot> FlannelKing: what about when i get the error that says: "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[04:21] <biovore> eob84: chmod +x ut-install-428.run adn try again
[04:21] <nitrox> Flannelking: I was wondering if I should just VNC into the BSD box or use Cygwin and Putty on my Windows Box and export the display to windows
[04:21] <gopi> IdleOne: I tried it but still same problem...
[04:22] <bubba_> Crshman, I dont know what you specificly have to do. I didnt, I had to specificly disable acpi, then re-enable it after I figured out how to fix my problem.
[04:22] <biovore> eob84: or sh ./ut-install-428.run
[04:22] <Crshman> bubba_: ahh ok, i'll try it, thnx
[04:22] <eob84> biovore, I did that
[04:22] <aslkzxmn> hello all
[04:22] <FlannelKing> nitrox: using what?  X tunneling? or what?  That'll be cygwin with the program "xwin", if youre doing it locally (on a LAN) you can use XDCMP (or acronym like that) straight in cygwin, but if it's outside of a LAN, you'll have problems (and have to use putty and other methods) becaues xwin uses UDP
[04:22] <IdleOne> gopi: can you paste the erro in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ , thanks
[04:22] <eob84> biovore, now it does what it was doing initially
[04:22] <gopi> IdleOne: ok sure
[04:22] <eob84> biovore, Uncompressing Unreal Tournament version 428 Linux installtrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 
[04:22] <ttread> mikebot, what does the X server error say?
[04:22] <FlannelKing> nitrox: I use cygwin, it's pretty snappy.  Never tried the VNC method though.
[04:22] <mikebot> that's all it says
[04:23] <mikebot> ttread: "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?"
[04:23] <IdleOne> gopi:  then paste the url in here please ()
[04:23] <ttread> mikebot, so you answer y does it say anything more?
[04:23] <eob84> mikebot, does it say anything about a unsuable display?
[04:23] <gopi> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9481
[04:23] <mikebot> i'm not sure
[04:23] <biovore> eob84: intressting
[04:23] <mikebot> it gave me that error and i opened the diagnose file
[04:24] <mikebot> and it was very long--too long to write down on paper then type again here
[04:24] <eob84> mikebot, if so I am guessing you are using the nvidia drivers?
[04:24] <mikebot> eob84: yes
[04:24] <ttread> mikebot, what is your nvidia card?
[04:24] <mikebot> it ended with "The X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured."
[04:24] <mikebot> geforce 4
[04:24] <eob84> mikebot, is your monitor a off brand thing?
[04:24] <mikebot> eob84: dell
[04:24] <wastrel> eob84:  trap appears to be a bash command - seems like there's an error in a trap call in your install script
[04:24] <nitrox> Flannelking: I am using it within a LAN and when I am outside the LAN I VPN in.... So I CYGWIN AND XDMCP would be better than CYGWIN and PUTTY for a LAN right?
[04:25] <eob84> wastrel, damn really... can I update trap or something
[04:25] <linux_user400354> http://sial.org/pbot/16070 <-- i am getting this error from vncviewer on ubuntu. as soon as i connect to the vnc server, it starts to load and i can see some of it then i get disconnected.
[04:25] <pomalley> hm... another person with video card problems?
[04:25] <eob84> mikebot, check out the log file
[04:25] <ttread> mikebot, you can try looking in var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:25] <FlannelKing> nitrox: yeah, since you're not worried about the ssh tunnel, which just gives the overhead of encrypt/decrypt (unless you don't trust your LAN for whatever reason)
[04:25] <mikebot> well here's the thing
[04:25] <wastrel> eob84:  what shell is the script using ( first line of the script should have #!/some/shell )
[04:25] <mikebot> i don't know how to read the log file, cause i don't know what i'm looking for
[04:25] <IdleOne> gopi:  sudo apt-get install mythtv-frontend && mythtv-backen see if that helps
[04:25] <mikebot> and i only can use commands when i run ubuntu because the X server is down
[04:26] <IdleOne> gopi:  sudo apt-get install mythtv-frontend && mythtv-backend see if that helps
[04:26] <mikebot> so i have to go to the log
[04:26] <mikebot> write it on paper
[04:26] <mikebot> restart into windows
[04:26] <mikebot> and come back here
[04:26] <FlannelKing> nitrox: I juts xwin -query [linux ip]  in cygwin
[04:26] <biovore> eob84: trap is a built in command on bash to repond to hardware signals
[04:26] <eob84> mikebot, and see if it says stuff about hsync out of range
[04:26] <biovore> eob84: maybe bash-3.0 breaks there installer.. UT99 is over 6 years old..
[04:26] <ttread> mikebot, look towards the bottom of the log and see where it got the fatal error
[04:26] <eob84> biovore, I know... but there aren't many other good games for linux lol
[04:27] <mikebot> ttread: eob84: okay, i'll look for those things
[04:27] <wastrel> biovore:  still if they're calling bash with /bin/sh  shouldn't it be backward-compatible?
[04:27] <nitrox> Flannelking: Do I still have to enable SSH forwarding?
[04:27] <biovore> eob84: UT2k4
[04:27] <mikebot> so i gues i'll be back in like 10-15
[04:27] <mikebot> brb
[04:27] <ttread> mikebot, you can save yourself a little trouble by using knoppix
[04:27] <biovore> eob84: Quake3/Quake4/Doom/Doom3
[04:27] <mikebot> knoppix?
[04:27] <FlannelKing> nitrox: no, putty is completely removed from the picture.  Just the XDMCP and cygwin (then xwin, internally in cygwin)
[04:27] <biovore> nitrox: RTCF
[04:27] <eob84> biovore, wouldn't it be great if they had CS:S for it
[04:27] <pomalley> hey, when I try to apt-get something it says to insert the cd, but I gave the cd to a friend impressed with ubuntu... can i get it to download it instead?
[04:27] <biovore> blame value for making crap
[04:27] <Toma-> eob84, http://www.liflg.org/
[04:27] <ttread> it will let you boot into a running linux system and you'll be able to read your log file
[04:27] <eob84> biovore, it being linux
[04:27] <IdleOne> !tell pomalley  about repos
[04:27] <Unity> pomalley: take the cdrom source out of sources.list
[04:27] <liskl_> how can i get xscreensaver to work under fluxbox?
[04:28] <frank23> pomalley: in synaptic, go to manage repositories and remove the cd entry
[04:28] <pomalley> thanks
[04:28] <biovore> eob84: CSS dose work under cedega ok
[04:28] <ttread> knoppix is a live cd distro
[04:28] <IdleOne> pomalley:  follow the link the bot msg'ed you
[04:28] <Unity> IdleOne: shouldn't you be idle?
[04:28] <pudland> when in terminal... how can I see hidden files/folders?
[04:28] <mikebot> ttread: i don't understand, sorry
[04:28] <Unity> pudland: ls -a
[04:28] <jetscreamer> ls -lA
[04:28] <biovore> quicken: la -al
[04:28] <nitrox> Flannelking: Thanx for your input I am going too VPN in and try it out, Greatly appreciate it
[04:28] <jetscreamer> either
[04:28] <IdleOne> Unity:  indeed I should
[04:29] <pudland> thanks
[04:29] <quicken> HELP:  sudo apt-get install wine
[04:29] <quicken> Reading package lists... Done
[04:29] <quicken> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:29] <quicken> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:29] <quicken> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:29] <quicken> is only available from another source
[04:29] <quicken> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[04:29] <ttread> With knoppix you could be on IRC and access your hard drive and stuff without rebooting
[04:29] <Unity> ubotu tell quicken about pastebin
[04:29] <jetscreamer> !info wine
[04:29] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[04:29] <Toma-> !topic
[04:29] <eob84> Toma, thanx but I don't use torrents
[04:29] <jetscreamer> !universe
[04:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:29] <IdleOne> !tell quicken  about repos
[04:29] <Unity> jetscreamer: please msg the bot
[04:29] <Toma-> eob84, errrr... theres hard links to the installers there too
[04:29] <jetscreamer> !tell Unity -about ...
[04:29] <mikebot> i'll brb
[04:30] <IdleOne> jetscreamer:  it saves channel realty ()
[04:30] <quicken> how do I install this blasted thing?
[04:30] <Unity> you guys are lagging the bot
[04:30] <pudland> when in terminal... how can I see hidden files/folders? with page view?
[04:30] <Unity> pudland: ls -la | less
[04:30] <quicken> j/k
[04:30] <liskl_> how can i get xscreensaver to work under fluxbox?
[04:30] <pudland> unity kk thx
[04:30] <eob84> Toma, ahh thanx... I didn't notice the direct next to the link lol
[04:30] <Toma-> eob84, hehe ;D
[04:30] <IdleOne> quicken:  you need to enable the repos first
[04:30] <quicken> why can't I install wine?
[04:30] <quicken> oh
[04:30] <quicken> how I do that
[04:31] <IdleOne> the bot sent you a link
[04:31] <frank23> quicken: check the msgs from ubotu
[04:31] <eob84> biovore, I bought cedega... but CS: S runs ok... but no where nears as well as in windows
[04:31] <ksmurf> does anyone here use an freenx ... if so could I please get the node.conf Please.... just on pastebin would be Great!
[04:31] <FlannelKing> liskl_: googling says you need to add "xscreensaver &" to ~/.fluxbox/startup
[04:31] <quicken> umbuntu Liderly Base linux :(
[04:31] <Toma-> eob84, i only buy games that are supported by loki. :)
[04:31] <biovore> eob84: rgr that..
[04:32] <liskl_> thanks FlannelKing
[04:32] <eob84> Toma, I almost there myself lol
[04:32] <Toma-> eob84, have you checked out linux-gamers?
[04:32] <sovin> Is it possible to un-build a kernal module?
[04:32] <lwizardl> does anyone know of linux programs for doing 2D animation for tv?
[04:32] <sovin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OrinocoMonitorKismet2005Hoary?highlight=%28kismet%29 < Sleepy and was trying to do everything on this page.
[04:32] <eob84> Toma, yea... but a lot of the games I have people don't play anymore
[04:32] <FlannelKing> lwizardl: wouldn't that be any 2d animation program? or is TV special?
[04:32] <biovore> www.icculus.org has alot of gamming stuff on it
[04:32] <Toma-> eob84, have you seen the how-to section? what games?
[04:33] <IdleOne> sovin:  we see you
[04:33] <eob84> Toma, Quake 2, Sin, UT oldies... and yea I did
[04:33] <lwizardl> FlannelKing: most 2d apps i find seem to be for flash animations
[04:33] <freebse> mount /dev/H5N1 /root :) LOL
[04:33] <biovore> lol
[04:33] <Toma-> they all run native... Sin however, is a pain.
[04:33] <quicken> ok that was helpless I got a text file :(
[04:34] <cales> I think I screwed up my x server while trying to get more buttons working on my mouse...
[04:34] <FlannelKing> lwizardl: wouldn't that work for TV? what are you trying to export as? (file format?)
[04:34] <cales> can anyone help me? :P
[04:34] <ttread> lwizardl http://www2.linuxjournal.com/article/4803
[04:34] <quicken> what do I install 2 run umbuntu installers?
[04:34] <IdleOne> quicken:  if you follow the instructions to enable repos it will help you
[04:34] <eob84> Toma, I know they do... they all run pretty well too... the issue is no one plays them
[04:34] <wastrel> sovin:  what do you mean by un-build?
[04:34] <lwizardl> FlannelKing: mpg2 would be nice
[04:34] <eob84> Toma, the more recent games I have are all for windows
[04:34] <IdleOne> quicken:  without the repos you will only see that error
[04:34] <eob84> Toma, you know of a native guild wars fix?
[04:35] <lwizardl> ttread: thanks i'll read that
[04:35] <Toma-> nope... whats the problem with it?
[04:35] <sovin> wastrel: I was on a 'copy and paste' + execute binge on that page..
[04:35] <FlannelKing> lwizardl: I'm sure a lot of those same animation programs can export as mp2, if not, you can probably find a flash player that'll export.  Oh, I think there are media players that'll do that as well.  But, that link is probably the best reference you'll get
[04:35] <ksmurf> can anyone help me with a node.conf for freenx?
[04:36] <wastrel> sovin:  what step were you at, what is the problem you're having and what do you want to do now :] 
[04:36] <cales> "fatal server error: failed to initialize core devices
[04:36] <quicken> i cant even get repos it only gives me webistes & more bs :(
[04:36] <setuid> Anyone know how to build the vmware modules against a stock Ubuntu kernel? Its looking for headers which don't exist in all of Ubuntu.
[04:36] <sovin> wastrel: Hm, I suppose I don't have a problem.  More like 'is having two kernals in my /boot a bad thing?' question.
[04:36] <Rob_Dude> This is probably a silly question, but...is Ubuntu 'secure' fresh out of the box (or at least as reasonably secure as it gets?)
[04:36] <ksmurf> the file is at /etc/nxserver/node.conf
[04:36] <gumble> hi, i received my ubuntu cds today and installed.. worked fine. but when trying to use firefox, or anything that needs a connectiong.. didnt work basically as if it wasnt connected... but im always connected..
[04:36] <lwizardl> FlannelKing: yeah that url seems to be exactly the info i need. just doesn't seem to give program names
[04:36] <IdleOne> quicken:  the website it gives you is the intruction on how to enable the repos
[04:36] <gumble> any ideas?
[04:36] <biovore> setuid: you need to install the kernel source and headers
[04:36] <setuid> This, of course, works flawlessly with source-built kernels, but I need fglrx
[04:36] <quicken> yeah yeah I was on wrong site..
[04:36] <Rob_Dude> setuid:  Yeah- I just went though it
[04:37] <lwizardl> ttread: thanks looks like a great read
[04:37] <IdleOne> !tell quicken  about cli
[04:37] <setuid> biovore: I have those, its not there
[04:37] <ttread> lwizardl yw
[04:37] <eob84> YEA UT IS INSTALLING!
[04:37] <setuid> biovore: It takes about 7 hours to build the kernel from source (it builds 12 architectures)
[04:37] <quicken> stupid bot gave me 2 many sites :P
[04:37] <setuid> Rob_Dude: GO on
[04:37] <cK-gLocK> can anyone here help me out?
[04:37] <wastrel> sovin:  not really, unless you're low on space in /boot...  i just cleaned mine out the other day i had 5 or 6 in there and was running low (had 10MB left on the /boot partition)
[04:37] <cales> is there any way to configure xorg.conf from a command line other than just editing it?
[04:37] <gumble> anybody?
[04:37] <biovore> setuid: you have your kernel kernel's source in /usr/src/linux....
[04:37] <Toma-> eob84, http://www.linux-militia.net/forums/index.php?topic=8.0
[04:37] <gumble> :(
[04:37] <Rob_Dude> I did 'sudo apt-get install (lemme find the file name)
[04:37] <setuid> biovore: Yep
[04:37] <cales> i.e., is there a program that looks at your hardware and does it for you?
[04:37] <cK-gLocK> im having a problem with GDM loading up i think its cuz i changed something in the xorg.xconf file
[04:37] <cK-gLocK> i changed monitor around
[04:37] <Rob_Dude> For me, /usr/src/linux didn't exist
[04:37] <biovore> setuid: did you build it?
[04:37] <bimberi> Rob_Dude: it is about as secure as it gets.  The default install has no processes listening on external ports.
[04:37] <cK-gLocK> and thats the error its giving me
[04:38] <ksmurf> calde dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:38] <setuid> biovore: But there is no include/linux/version.h without building the kernel, and building the kernel requires hacking a LOT of source files to swtich the arch to SMP, s/386/686/ and so on
[04:38] <sovin> wastrel: alright. thank you.
[04:38] <setuid> biovore: Build what?
[04:38] <ksmurf> caldS dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:38] <setuid> biovore: Build a kernel from the kernel source? Or a debian package from the source?
[04:38] <ksmurf> cales dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:38] <setuid> Neither are possible
[04:38] <setuid> Because the kernel headers/source do *NOT* match the running kernel
[04:38] <Rob_Dude> Here's what I did, and it worked for me...
[04:38] <setuid> Which is why I have to hack through this whole tree
[04:38] <setuid> Its a mess
[04:38] <pudland> unity, when i do your command.. i see ICEauthority as root root.  when i do cd .ICEauthority it sayd no such....
[04:38] <biovore> setuid: kernel building in debian/ubuntu is easy.. 1 sec.. let me find howto (try asking the bot)
[04:39] <quicken> im in synaptic thingy wuts it under?
[04:39] <setuid> biovore: I wrote _the_ kernel howto, I know how to build kernels ;)
[04:39] <eob84> Tohoma, actually this may be good info for any game
[04:39] <cK-gLocK> im having a problem with GDM loading up i think its cuz i changed something in the xorg.xconf file i changed monitor settings around in the file to try and get higher resolution but i think changing monitor from generic monitor to standard messed it up someone pls help!
[04:39] <Rob_Dude> 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10.28'
[04:39] <bimberi> setuid: to install the kernel headers -> 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[04:39] <setuid> biovore: But 'debuild' on this tree takes F-O-R-E-V-E-R
[04:39] <setuid> Rob_Dude: Right, so I did that
[04:39] <cK-gLocK> anything i can do from the command prompt logging in from there since i can get to the GUI
[04:39] <biovore> setuid: ah so your tring to find a way around it..
[04:39] <IdleOne> quicken:  im not trying to be rude but follow the instructions dude it's all there
[04:39] <Unity> pudland: i get: bash: cd: .ICEauthority: Not a directory
[04:39] <Rob_Dude> And when that was done installing I still didn't have the /usr/src/linux folder
[04:40] <cK-gLocK> =(
[04:40] <setuid> biovore: No, I'm trying to build the vmware modules against the kernel I"m _actually_ runing, not a _new_ one I build from source
[04:40] <Rob_Dude> So I used 'ln -s'
[04:40] <nm> lol
[04:40] <pudland> unity using your command.. do you see it?
[04:40] <Rob_Dude> to make a symbolic link called 'linux' that pointed to the newly created
[04:40] <Unity> pudland: yes
[04:40] <setuid> Rob_Dude: linux-image-2.6.15-16-686 is already the newest version.
[04:40] <Unity> pudland: it's not a folder so you can't go into it
[04:40] <biovore> setuid: VMware needs to source tree for the kernel your currently running to it can link hooks into the current kernel
[04:40] <setuid> Rob_Dude: And /usr/src/linux points to there
[04:40] <Rob_Dude> linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[04:40] <mikebot> okay i got some fatal errors
[04:40] <setuid> biovore: The problem is that the stock kernel *DOES NOT* match the source labeled with that same version stamp
[04:40] <quicken> I did I am in cynaptic it doesnt really tell me where it is
[04:41] <cales> ok, that worked slightly better...
[04:41] <biovore> setuid: rgr.. I had the same problem here..
[04:41] <setuid> Rob_Dude: Right, so then what? You built the whole kernel tree with debuild?
[04:41] <pudland> unity OMG.... i'm not stupid... just slow tonight.
[04:41] <frank23> quicken: Settings->Repositories
[04:41] <biovore> setuid: I run a custom kernel here. So I have my kernel source..
[04:41] <setuid> Rob_Dude: And you had to hack the SMP out, and change the arch to 686, and so on?
[04:41] <Rob_Dude> Nah - 2.6.12-10-386 was the version source that my kernel was
[04:41] <setuid> biovore: I normally would, but I need fglrx, and that doesn't build
[04:41] <quicken> got it kinda laggin
[04:41] <Rob_Dude> So it matched, and VM installed fine
[04:42] <cK-gLocK> can someone help me fix my xconf so i can get my gui(gdm) back up!
[04:42] <mikebot> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[04:42] <mikebot> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load NVIDIDA kernel module!
[04:42] <mikebot> (EE) NVIDIA(0): ***Aborting***
[04:42] <mikebot> (EE) Screen(s) found but none have usable configuration.
[04:42] <cK-gLocK> please...
[04:42] <cales> i get a list of warnings when i run startx as follows:
[04:42] <biovore> mikebot: modprobe nvidia (and if the fails, reinstall the nvidia driver)
[04:42] <cales> Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0
[04:42] <mikebot> biovore: could you explain how to do that please?
[04:42] <lwizardl> where can i get a ubuntu compatible boot floppy image?
[04:42] <cales> etc, substituting other abbreviations for "pcf"
[04:43] <nm> gLocK: linux q4'er?
[04:43] <cK-gLocK> was
[04:43] <cK-gLocK> until i edited my xconf
[04:43] <cK-gLocK> i like q4 in linux
[04:43] <cK-gLocK> trying to ditch windows
[04:43] <nm> ah
[04:43] <nm> heh
[04:43] <biovore> mikebot: as root on a terminal try typing "modprobe nvidia"
[04:43] <mikebot> !modprobe
[04:43] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, mikebot
[04:43] <IdleOne> !paste
[04:43] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[04:43] <cK-gLocK> wanted to see what linux was about
[04:43] <frank23> cK-gLocK: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will run through X configuration
[04:43] <nm> q4 has too many fatal1ty wannabes for me
[04:43] <cK-gLocK> got it running and all just messed around with my xconf and messed my monitor settings up
[04:43] <cK-gLocK> lol
[04:43] <nm> everyone is a 17 year old loser playing 17 hours a day
[04:43] <mikebot> okay biovore, but i have to restart and do everythign again
[04:43] <nm> trying to be the next money winner
[04:43] <setuid> biovore: Any idea how I can build fglrx from source so it works with a custom kernel?
[04:43] <nm> i was pretty hardcore into q2, but i'm not 13 anymore
[04:43] <Rob_Dude> setuid:  I dunno - when you do 'uname -r' what does it display?  2.6.15.16.686?
[04:44] <nm> i can't play the game for that amount of time
[04:44] <cK-gLocK> k
[04:44] <cK-gLocK> illtry that
[04:44] <setuid> Rob_Dude: # cat /proc/version
[04:44] <setuid> Linux version 2.6.15-16-686 (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.0.3 20060212 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.2-9ubuntu1)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 20 17:26:04 UTC 2006
[04:44] <mikebot> i liked how in q2 the rocket explosions weren't the size of the entire screen, unlike q3
[04:44] <nm> gl
[04:44] <biovore> mikebot: there error you got is saying you don't have a kermel module loaded called nvidia
[04:44] <nm> if you keep having problems, let me know
[04:44] <mikebot> biovore: okay
[04:44] <nm> qw/q2 were the best of them
[04:44] <frank23> cK-gLocK: suggestion for next time you experiment with xorg.conf - backup the file before modifying
[04:44] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, shoot man - I dunno then; sorry I can't be of more help
[04:44] <biovore> mikebot: this module is loading onto the system when you installed the nvidia driver from apt
[04:44] <nm> q3 is comical at best, ridiculously lame at worst
[04:44] <cK-gLocK> yes
[04:45] <pingu> If, I was going to put a 2.6.15 kernel on an ubuntu hoary install CD.
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> am i gonna be able
[04:45] <awb4422> setuid: you're going to have to get the source
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> to fix it
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> with this command tho
[04:45] <nm> glock: probably
[04:45] <nm> if not, just edit it manually
[04:45] <mikebot> biovore: okay, i'll type this and see what it says and come back
[04:45] <mikebot> brb
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> how would i edit it manually
[04:45] <nm> look at your error log
[04:45] <setuid> awb4422: Right, googling isn't much help
[04:45] <biovore> setuid: no clue on fglrx stuff.. I run nvidia here
[04:45] <IdleOne> !tell nm about enter
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> frmo the command prompt right
[04:45] <setuid> And I think it requires a bunch of kernel patches
[04:45] <setuid> I hate kernel patches
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> how do iread files
[04:45] <setuid> sigh
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> .logs ect
[04:45] <awb4422> setuid: ok well, do you have the source packages downloaded?
[04:45] <quicken> Can you tell me if umbuntu has a requirement speed of proccessor & ram? I got a 450 256 meg ram & laggin :(
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> like i dontknow what to use to run the file
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> not familiar
[04:45] <nm> glock: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:45] <cK-gLocK> k nice
[04:45] <setuid> awb4422: There are none for fglrx
[04:46] <setuid> Its a proprietary driver
[04:46] <IdleOne> !tell cK-gLocK  about enter
[04:46] <setuid> But obviously SOMEONE has the source, there are kernel mods for it
[04:46] <gopi> IdleOne: sorry was away.... I tried it but stll error... plz see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9483
[04:46] <nm> idleone: what are you getting at
[04:46] <Guardiann> good evening
[04:46] <biovore> setuid: I think its on ATI's site
[04:46] <biovore> !ati
[04:46] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[04:46] <wastrel> quicken:  your ram is pretty low for gnome/kde  try xfce maybe but even that is hoggy, best bet would be a light wm like openbox
[04:46] <awb4422> setuid: ah i see
[04:46] <Bandit> Yo Guardiann whats up?
[04:46] <IdleOne> nm:  your spamming the channel and it's annoying like the bot said ()
[04:46] <nm> idleone: well you'll have to live with it, or leave
[04:46] <amphi> setuid: the source is just for a wrapper round a blob
[04:46] <nm> idleone: thanks.
[04:46] <wastrel> setuid:  you running dapper?  maybe the kids on the dapper channel would know what's up with the kernel
[04:47] <setuid> wastrel: Yep, dapper
[04:47] <IdleOne> nm:  you have to follow the rules and the CoC
[04:47] <Guardiann> hello not much just messing around
[04:47] <setuid> wastrel: I needed mysql 5
[04:47] <IdleOne> !tell nm about coc
[04:47] <setuid> But without fglrx, dapper hard-locks Thinkpads
[04:47] <setuid> Breezy works fine, but no mysql 5
[04:47] <cales> my xserver still isn't starting, it says the font renderer for ".***" already registered at priority 0
[04:47] <setuid> I'm always getting 80%
[04:47] <setuid> sigh
[04:47] <awb4422> setuid: well basically what you do is make-kpkg --append-to-version -ati --initrd modules_image
[04:47] <nm> idleone: the bot is on ignore, i don't put up with ridiculous spam like that, you can say something yourself if you so desire
[04:47] <awb4422> setuid: while in /usr/src
[04:47] <wastrel> setuid:  dapper folks are on #ubuntu+1 , they might have a clue about where the kernel headers are for the packaged kernel.
[04:48] <nm> idleone: i'm here to help now and then, i won't put up with ridiculous suggestions from ignorants like yourself
[04:48] <quicken> Unable to get a lock?? :(  stupid apt was open
[04:48] <AttAcKeR> hello
[04:48] <IdleOne> nm:  can you please not use the enter key as punctuation as it is distracting and makes it hard for newbies to follow
[04:48] <cales> when i type startx it starts for about a second, i see the grey screen with the little x-cursor in the middle, and then it goes back to command line
[04:48] <linux_user400354> http://sial.org/pbot/16070 <-- i am getting this error from vncviewer on ubuntu. as soon as i connect to the vnc server, it starts to load and i can see some of it then i get disconnected.
[04:48] <Jivenix> does ubuntu have power management for lappys?
[04:48] <cales> and shows that error message.
[04:48] <AttAcKeR> someone have issue for serial mouse ???
[04:48] <setuid> So many roadblocks with Ubuntu
[04:48] <nm> idleone: no, but thanks for expressing the desire yourself, instead of spamming me with a bot
[04:48] <AttAcKeR> please someone ?
[04:49] <IdleOne> nm ok then
[04:49] <linux_user400354> cales, what driver for your video card driver are you using
[04:49] <quicken> question for serial mouse guy, who in this day & age even use serial mouses anymore?
[04:49] <linux_user400354> cales, what driver for your video card  are you using
[04:49] <amphi> Jivenix: yes
[04:49] <cales> um... ati, i think?
[04:49] <Jivenix> amphi, good news, is there a gui interface?
[04:49] <Jivenix> or what's the manpage
[04:49] <AttAcKeR> test purposes
[04:49] <gopi> IdleOne: saw that link ?
[04:49] <IdleOne> gopi:  one sec
[04:49] <quicken> thought serial mouses where all but whiped out
[04:50] <amphi> Jivenix: no idea - I set the governor myself, in sysfs
[04:50] <cales> whatever dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg sets as the ATI driver
[04:50] <Jivenix> thanks
[04:50] <roberto> ola
[04:50] <AttAcKeR> quicken if you know how to help thanks
[04:50] <Morfosomo> quicken i still had to fight one these days, brave little creatures,. refuse to pass away
[04:50] <amphi> Jivenix: have a look at the files in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ if you're interested
[04:50] <cales> my system worked fine until i started screwing around with xorg.conf to try to get more buttons on my mouse working
[04:51] <Jivenix> thanks
[04:51] <setuid> ugh, ati only ships rpms
[04:51] <setuid> wtf
[04:51] <wastrel> cales:  i don't suppose you backed up a known-good copy before you edited it?
[04:51] <setuid> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[04:51] <Morfosomo> setuid use alien
[04:51] <setuid> Morfosomo: No
[04:51] <amphi> Jivenix: I tend to use the ondemand governor - cat scaling_available_governors will show which governors are, er, available, for example
[04:51] <mikebo1> biovore: heh
[04:51] <Morfosomo> ok, just a sugestion
[04:51] <cales> wastrel: of course not.
[04:52] <cales> that would be far too sensible.
[04:52] <quicken> lol yeah they take a beating :P
[04:52] <quicken> NOW time 2 install this blasted thing :p
[04:53] <IdleOne> gopi: looks like you need alot of different packages before you can install mythtv but I am not certain as to what they all are. maybe someone else can take a look  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9483
[04:53] <matthew_w> Hey uh, has anyone here tried to hook a guitar up to their computer using linux?
[04:53] <quicken> lol
[04:53] <pingu> matthew_w: I actually have.
[04:53] <pingu> Why?
[04:53] <pingu> Well, anyway I'm actually here for a reason.
[04:53] <matthew_w> pingu; how did you do it, and with what
[04:53] <pingu> I have to put a 2.6.15 kernel onto a hoary CD.
[04:53] <quicken> didnt think a standrd sound cad coul handle that kinda power :p
[04:54] <wastrel> cales:  what video card do you have?
[04:54] <cales> is there a way to uninstall imwheel from the command line?
[04:54] <pingu> mathew_w, a sound card :P
[04:54] <cales> wastrel: an ATI something, i think.
[04:54] <pingu> Doess anyone have any suggestions?
[04:54] <cales> I'm not entirely sure.
[04:54] <wastrel> cales:  sudo apt-get remove imwheel
[04:54] <pingu> Remaster the hoary install CD with a 2.6.15 kernel?
[04:54] <linux_user400354> cales, something could be wrong with your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:54] <Mantice> Can Some one help me out Im trying to play this game called Enemy teratorry
[04:54] <matthew_w> pingu; I mean, with a preamp or without, into the mic port, or into the line in, with what software did you record, what utilities did you use, etc.
[04:54] <wastrel> cales:  lspci will show your hardware info.
[04:54] <cales> ok, onen sec
[04:55] <quicken> GAH i still cannot open deb files, is there a diffrent archiver I am supposed 2 use 2 do it? or mty terminal?
[04:55] <nickrud> pingu: I think you might have troubles with hotplug & udev ; I'd ask on -devel
[04:55] <pingu> matthew_w: Just, the mic port.
[04:55] <pingu> With an adapter.
[04:55] <linux_user400354> cales, check to see if there is a backup of your xorg.conf that was created when you changed it
[04:55] <pingu> Ok, thanks :D
[04:55] <cales> linux-user: there isn't :(
[04:55] <pingu> I didn't do much to it.
[04:55] <pingu> Except shove it in.
[04:55] <pingu> Record in audacity.
[04:55] <cales> i have an ATI Radeon 7200
[04:55] <cales> video card
[04:55] <matthew_w> pingu; using a 1/3 inch to 1/8 inch converter, I assume
[04:55] <quicken> ah ha got it
[04:55] <matthew_w> And what sound daemon>?
[04:56] <anthony> after installing  vlc and w32codec, embedded windows media files will only play the audio stream but not hte video stream, any fixes?
[04:56] <quicken> mua ha ha thx all 4 help
[04:56] <gopi> IdleOne: ok thanks
[04:56] <tin_nqn> hello
[04:56] <sabiancrash> hi Jivenix
[04:56] <cales> okay, a new error message when i run startx:
[04:56] <quicken> ANYONE ever use winlinux pppfftt....
[04:56] <cales> xauth: error in locking authority file /home/scheinbc/.Xauthority
[04:56] <morphineinduced> hey how would i know if i have ubuntu or edubuntu
[04:56] <AttAcKeR> you suck all bitches
[04:56] <quicken> I got that
[04:56] <_jason> anthony: use mplayer plug-in, I don't think vlc handles wmv9 (at least the one in the repos doesn't)
[04:56] <tin_nqn> I'm trying to edit TOTEM config from
[04:57] <quicken> you need 2 install repos
[04:57] <anthony> _jason: k thanks
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> If I do stuff using free formats, would my Windows friends have to jump through any hoops to be able to use them too?  (ie. Ogg Vorbis sound files)
[04:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell anthony about mplayer
[04:57] <tin_nqn> gconf-editor -> apps - > totem
[04:57] <tin_nqn> subtitle_font entry specificly
[04:57] <cales> all the font renderer error messages are still there too though
[04:57] <quicken> ok question where do I find the program I installed?
[04:57] <trooper00> tonyyarusso: they would have to install a codec, yeah. i usually include a copy of the required codecs with my collection, so its not much of a hassle
[04:57] <tin_nqn> I want a bigger subtitle
[04:57] <Jivenix> hey sabian
[04:58] <quicken> wine..
[04:58] <wastrel> cales:  it sounds like you've got an X session running already
[04:58] <cales> ok
[04:58] <tin_nqn> sorry... somebody are reading me?=
[04:58] <wastrel> cales:   try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:58] <IdleOne> quicken:  in terminal type wine program.exe
[04:58] <cales> stopping gnome display manager...     [ok] 
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> trooper00: All right, that shouldn't be too difficult.
[04:59] <cales> wastrel: so yeah it stopped GDM
[04:59] <wastrel> can you get into x now?
[04:59] <quicken> ok but where do I have 2 have the exe?
[04:59] <cales> no
[04:59] <cales> same problem
[04:59] <Mordof> question: have the ca repo servers been fixed yet?
[04:59] <cales> error in locking authority file
[04:59] <IdleOne> quicken:  wherever you downloaded it
[05:00] <quicken> ok sweet
[05:00] <cales> and warning: font renderer for "***" already registered at priority 0
[05:00] <quicken> im laggin I gotta go l8tr all
[05:00] <quicken> thx for help
[05:00] <IdleOne> quicken:  probably onto the Desktop so first do cd Desktop anf then wine program.exe
[05:00] <frank23> Mordof: I didnt notice any problems with ca server
[05:00] <Mordof> cales, are you having troubles with installing a vid card driver?
[05:00] <quicken> and being patient with me :P
[05:00] <Mordof> frank23, this morning they were borked
[05:00] <pomalley> noob question: how do i tell my kernel version?
[05:00] <Mordof> or w/e
[05:00] <cales> mordof: not as far as i know
[05:00] <wastrel> cales:  i get those font errors, i think you can ignore them.
[05:00] <frank23> Mordof: I think they're fine now
[05:00] <Mordof> cales, font errors n stuff happened to me when my nvidia drivers werent installed properly.. *shrugs*
[05:01] <Mordof> frank23, k
[05:01] <IdleOne> pomalley:  uname -r in terminal
[05:01] <cales> ok, then the meaningful error is probably "xauth: error in locking authority file /home/scheinbc/.Xauthority
[05:01] <wastrel> cales:  does that file exist?
[05:01] <Mordof> cales, ok, not what i thought it was :P
[05:01] <blrich> let's say i upgrade to dapper. should i be using gstreamer 0.10 *at all*? seems to be causing problems.
[05:01] <matthew_w> pingu; I have my guitar plugged into my microphone port and it's doing nothing
[05:01] <pomalley> IdleOne: thanks
[05:01] <IdleOne> pomalley:  np ")
[05:01] <blrich> yes, i know about the dapper channel, they're all asleep
[05:01] <matthew_w> 1 minute ago, I had my microphone plugged in there, and it was doing fine.  Explanation>?
[05:01] <Mordof> blrich, 0.8 doesn't seem to work, ive tried
[05:01] <blrich> Mordof, what in dapper?
[05:01] <Mordof> blrich, yes
[05:02] <rukuartic> say Hey guys
[05:02] <Mordof> Hey guys
[05:02] <IdleOne> hey
[05:02] <blrich> Mordof, dammit, everything was fine in breezy, but now gstreamer isn't picking my soundcard up in dapper (alsa/esd do though)
[05:02] <rukuartic> X_X I've been on my cstrike server too much. I'm appending SAY to the start of every line I type
[05:02] <pingu> matthew_w: What did you expect it to do? :P
[05:02] <pingu> Record it.
[05:02] <Mordof> blrich, dapper isnt done yet.. you know that right?
[05:02] <matthew_w> pingu; Recording it records nothing.
[05:02] <blrich> Mordof, maybe i should remove gstreamer completely? nothing depends on it except totem (doesn't work) and thats it
[05:02] <matthew_w> pingu; playing into my guitar tuner application shows no sound input
[05:02] <cales> :D
[05:03] <cales> i restarted and it worked
[05:03] <matthew_w> pingu; mic volume levels are @ 0
[05:03] <blrich> Mordof, i know, but considering it's supposed to be an *improvement* i was thinking it might at least recognise my sound card
[05:03] <blrich> i mean, for some part of gstreamer to do that would be nice
[05:03] <cales> i don't have the slightest idea why :P
[05:03] <cales> i hate being so stupid about this
[05:03] <wastrel> cales:  me either :] 
[05:03] <cales> anyways, thanks for your help everyone...
[05:03] <cosmintilla> pomalley: uname -a
[05:03] <Mantice> Can Some one help me out Im trying to play this game called Enemy teratorry heres a screen shot www.mantice.net/photo
[05:04] <Mordof> blrich, depends on how things are configured, weither or not its accepted by gstreamer.. i dont think gstreamer is entirely done yet since it is *ugly* atm
[05:04] <Q_Continuum> For whatever reason, I can't get the second display to work. (Nvidia TwinView) www.outspokengeek.net/misc/xorg.conf
[05:04] <Mantice> That dont work :(
[05:04] <matthew_w> Explanation?
[05:04] <Q_Continuum> Second video port (whichever monitor I hook up) won't get a signal it can handle.
[05:05] <witless> hello.  do i need to belong to a particular group in order to resume a paused printer?
[05:05] <rukuartic> witless, If you use sudo you should be able to get things going...
[05:05] <wastrel> witless:  maybe lpadmin
[05:05] <Mantice> Can some one help my fix my linux game ?
[05:05] <matthew_w> pingu; what desktop were you using?
[05:05] <Mantice> I get this error message
[05:05] <Mantice> http://www.mantice.net/photos/
[05:05] <mang3lo> aahh, i cant stop terminal from pinging, whats the command?
[05:05] <matthew_w> pingu; because I have the sneaking suspiscion that it was KDE
[05:05] <wastrel> witless:  here's my list    wastrel adm dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev lpadmin scanner nvram
[05:05] <blrich> Mordof, i'm going to remove it completely and see what happens. i'll reinstall later if i need to
[05:05] <rukuartic> mang3lo, ctrl+c
[05:05] <mang3lo> ty
[05:05] <mang3lo> aahh, lifesaver
[05:06] <dbassett> evening all!  anyone here know anything about installing java sdk on ubuntu (powerpc)
[05:06] <witless> rukuartic: i cando it with gksu, but was wondering what the desktop-only way to do it is
[05:06] <rukuartic> mang3lo, It happened to me too XD
[05:06] <overrider> when i choose connect to server and there pick windows share, which program is it using to connect to the share? smbclient?
[05:06] <mang3lo> lol
[05:06] <witless> wastrel: you can resume a paused printer with those permissins?
[05:06] <rukuartic> witless, just a guess...
[05:06] <witless> ions?
[05:06] <Mantice> Could some one help me fix this error message please http://www.mantice.net/photos/00009.jpg
[05:06] <wastrel> witless:  yes-  i'm thinking you were removed from lpadmin
[05:06] <rukuartic> witless, open a console and type "sudo gnome-cups-manager" I think that should work...
[05:07] <witless> wastrel: yes, i'm not in lpadmin
[05:07] <rukuartic> witless, wastrel's suggestion would fix the problem, this is just a work around
[05:07] <wastrel> witless:  i understand one of the gui accound configurator tools messes up group membership
[05:07] <Mantice> It says somthing about Kernel panic
[05:07] <wastrel> s/accound/account/
[05:07] <mang3lo> i got a kernel panic the other day
[05:07] <rukuartic> Is that the 'dose equivalant of a BSOD?
[05:07] <mang3lo> it turned out to be my ram, try a memtest, thats how i diagnosed it
[05:07] <Mantice> Could you help me out if you know how to fix it.
[05:08] <Mantice> Its just this game
[05:08] <Mantice> how do I do a mem test?
[05:08] <wastrel> mmm a panic is always fun
[05:08] <Q_Continuum> Kernel Panic is sorta like a BSOD...but not always so fatal.
[05:08] <dbassett> Anyone have any experience installing java sdk on a ppc?
[05:08] <mang3lo> aahh, i see
[05:08] <Rob_Dude> I'm trying to better understand Solaris10.  It's not Linux, but it seems to run KDE, GNome, and all sorts of other linux apps.  I guess, what I'm asking is - what makes it different?
[05:08] <Mantice> check out http://www.mantice.net/photos/00009.jpg
[05:09] <tin_nqn> hello, I need to set subtitles bigger into TOTEM
[05:09] <rukuartic> dbassett, If you download it from the sun website, you should just be able to install it...
[05:09] <wastrel> Rob_Dude:  solaris is a unix, it has a different kernel, basically
[05:09] <rukuartic> dbassett, I think you need to do "sudo bash <installfile>.bin"
[05:09] <cafuego> dbassett: Yes, the wiki explains.
[05:09] <rukuartic> dbassett, But I think its messy. Listen to cafuego!
[05:09] <cafuego> !wiki JavaPPC
[05:09] <mang3lo> ya thats exactly my error, mantice
[05:09] <dbassett> well.. sun doesn't support PPC and ibm site won't let me download their SDK
[05:09] <cafuego> dbassett: Follow the instructions at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[05:09] <wastrel> Rob_Dude:  a lot of the software for *nix runs on any "posix compliant" system, so linux and unix can share a lot of software.
[05:10] <dbassett> says it needs to verify my location for exporting reasons
[05:10] <cafuego> dbassett: You need tro register at ibm, then you can download.
[05:10] <Mantice> mang3lo, did you fix it, what where you trying to do ?
[05:10] <cafuego> dbassett: Oh, that's crap.
[05:10] <dbassett> agreed
[05:10] <cafuego> dbassett: Hold on a moment
[05:10] <Rob_Dude> Hmm, interesting.  Very cool
[05:10] <dbassett> ok
[05:10] <mang3lo> as i said, i did a memtest and it returned all sorts of red at me, from only one stick of ram, so i pulled out that stick...took a 128mb speed in decrease, and everything works fine (i couldnt even boot anything up, not even the kernel)
[05:10] <rukuartic> wastrel, what exactly is a posix compliant system?
[05:10] <rukuartic> mang3lo, Linux would've been veeery helpful in fixing my grandma's box...
[05:10] <linux_user400354> http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695
[05:11] <matthew_w> I am having an immense amount of trouble with sound on Linux
[05:11] <rukuartic> mang3lo, I ended up reformatting the HD thinking it was busted...
[05:11] <mang3lo> i got the ram sitting right now to me, nothing about the stick looks damage, so i dont get it..i think ill throw it into somethign else and test it once im less lazier
[05:11] <matthew_w> I can't get my guitar to work, it did in winbox.  Basically I just stuff it into the Mic input.  For some reason, microphones work, and this guitar does not, explanations?
[05:11] <Mantice> Ah well, I can boot into ubuntu and windows fine
[05:11] <quicken> hey all question, I got whine but it kinda shabby, what was name of other one?
[05:11] <Mantice> I only have one stick of ram
[05:11] <rukuartic> mang3lo, After seven hours on tech, they figured it was my ram with their "semi linux" tools XD
[05:11] <mang3lo> aahh, then i dunno, mantice
[05:11] <mang3lo> haha rukuar!!
[05:11] <rukuartic> quicken, You mean wine?
[05:11] <rukuartic> mang3lo, Yeah it sucked. ><
[05:11] <Toma-> matthew_w, have you turned on the mic boost?
[05:11] <Mantice> damit is there a enimey territory support irc room
[05:12] <quicken> decides wine
[05:12] <matthew_w> Toma-; yes.  But that wouldn't account for the microphone working, and the guitar not working.
[05:12] <wastrel> rukuartic:  posix compliance means you implement the posix standards for unix systems- basically a standard list of programs and os functions - i'm sure wikipedia has a good explanation ;] 
[05:12] <rukuartic> Mantice, Cursing won't get you anywhere.
[05:12] <quicken> cedea sumthing like that
[05:12] <rukuartic> wastrel, Thx
[05:12] <rukuartic> quicken, cedega?
[05:12] <Toma-> matthew_w, it it were a XLR mic that had a pre-amp, yes it would...
[05:12] <mang3lo> its like "hrmm...last ditch effort lets use the most _basic_ of diagnosis tools, and forget windows for a minute..ohthere it is.."
[05:12] <Mantice> It makes me feel better :)
[05:12] <matthew_w> Toma-; Ah, I suppose.
[05:12] <quicken> yeah I try get that  instead wine sucks :p graphics freakin :(
[05:12] <rukuartic> Mantice, Yeah but its unprofessional. Try looking on their website
[05:13] <matthew_w> Toma-; Either way yes it's on
[05:13] <cafuego> dbassett: You're after " IBM SDK for 32-bit iSeries/pSeries" right?
[05:13] <quicken> How do I get my trash icon back?
[05:13] <Toma-> matthew_w, umm. silly question, but are you using an adaptor plug to get your 1/4" guitar lead to the 3.5mm mic in?
[05:13] <dbassett> yup :)
[05:13] <frank23> quicken: what program are you trying to run eith wine?
[05:13] <quicken> I removed it trying 2 get on desktop
[05:13] <dbassett> 1.5 would be great
[05:13] <matthew_w> Toma-; Yep.
[05:13] <quicken> bloodscape
[05:13] <quicken> game :p
[05:13] <Mantice> Googlin,it ant doing much good
[05:13] <Madpilot> quicken, right-click on the panel, chose "Add to Panel", find the Trash applet
[05:13] <Toma-> matthew_w, is the plug ok?
[05:13] <matthew_w> Toma-; never had a problem with it before
[05:14] <Toma-> matthew_w, have you tried plugging it into the line-in jack rather than mic-in?
[05:14] <Toma-> i had to do that with my studio
[05:14] <matthew_w> Toma-; I will try now
[05:14] <Toma-> ok
[05:14] <quicken> ah thx
[05:14] <linux_user400354> i need to get me one of these http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695
[05:14] <tin_nqn> hello, I need to set subtitles bigger into TOTEM. I've edited the key "subtitle_font" from gconf-editor from "Sans 20" to "Sans 32", but I've not seen any change
[05:14] <cafuego> ibm-java2-sdk-50-linux-ppc.tgz
[05:14] <Mantice> Man I wish this was in english I might understand it
[05:15] <rukuartic> Anyone have any ideas on getting XOrg to run faster?
[05:15] <Madpilot> quicken, everything on Gnome's panels can be added/moved/removed thru Add to Panel :P
[05:15] <matthew_w> Ok, it's in there, now, let me try
[05:15] <cafuego> dbassett: I'm fetching it; 64MB, so takes a while...
[05:15] <IdleOne> linux_user400354:  lmao
[05:15] <frank23> quicken: if cedega dosent support bloodscape : http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/alphabrowse.mhtml?letter=B it probably cant run at all in linux
[05:15] <matthew_w> Toma-; Nothing
[05:15] <dbassett> cafuego: Thanks!  What is the best way for me to get it from you?
[05:15] <quicken> thx
[05:16] <cafuego> dbassett: I'll be putting it on a website; so browser/wget/whatever.
[05:16] <rukuartic> cafuego, Start a FTP server!! :D
[05:16] <Toma-> matthew_w, and the levels for the line-in are up?
[05:16] <rukuartic> cafuego, I've done that once... cuz GAIM stinks with file transfers. O_o
[05:16] <dbassett> cafurgo: sounsd good.  Thanks!  I love the linux community
[05:16] <cafuego> Id you'd rather have ftp/rsync/svn, let me know ;-)
[05:16] <matthew_w> Toma-; yessir.
[05:16] <cafuego> rukuartic: I'm not downloading to my desktop box; I went over quota and only get 64Kbit/sec
[05:17] <wastrel> rukuartic:  actually you can support posix and not be a *nix at all, i believe beos was posix compliant.
[05:17] <matthew_w> Toma; I wonder
[05:17] <rukuartic> cafuego, Ouch...
[05:17] <Toma-> hm..
[05:17] <dbassett> cafuego: ouch indeed
[05:17] <rukuartic> wastrel, Are toasters posix compliant? :: pokes fun::
[05:17] <matthew_w> Toma-; If I plug the guitar into my amp, and then take the "Phone Out" cord from my amp, and plug that into my Mic In?
[05:17] <twitch101> when i ant to use wine and i need .NET framework i can just download the files from windows.com and set them in my system and registry folder right?
[05:17] <cafuego> rukuartic: 5 more days of slowness :-(
[05:17] <quicken> lol
[05:17] <rukuartic> cafuego, I use my toaster to serve my CStrike box...
[05:18] <quicken> beats windows :P
[05:18] <rukuartic> cafuego, It stinks... cuz I wake up in the morning, there are ten people playing
[05:18] <rukuartic> cafuego, And when I drop my toast in, everyone's ping jumps to 400
[05:18] <twitch101> when i ant to use wine and i need .NET framework i can just download the files from windows.com and set them in my system and registry folder right?
[05:18] <unperson> Is one likely to see any real difference between running the 386 and 686 kernels?
[05:18] <Toma-> matthew_w, yeh give that a try. the signal should be pretty weak and wont destroy your soundcard
[05:19] <matthew_w> Toma-; Errr...
[05:19] <MeeKs> im about to install ubuntu on a 250gb HD, whats the best way to parition it?
[05:19] <MeeKs> i never have before
[05:19] <varsendagger> rukuartic, are you for real?
[05:19] <cafuego> MeeKs: Depends.
[05:19] <cafuego> MeeKs: server or workstation?
[05:19] <MeeKs> workstation
[05:19] <MeeKs> just want to learn linux really
[05:20] <MeeKs> heard its a good distro
[05:20] <wastrel> MeeKs:  if you want to learn linux, and don't need a working system, i recommend linux from scratch :] 
[05:20] <cafuego> MeeKs: 20GB /, 2G swap, rest /home
[05:20] <IdleOne> MeeKs:  90 gig for OS and 40 gig swap you should be good to go ()
[05:20] <MeeKs> wastrel: you mean command line
[05:20] <Toma-> 10 gb /
[05:20] <cafuego> MeeKs: Or do wyou want stuff like WIndows on there too?
[05:20] <MeeKs> no
[05:20] <MeeKs> i dont use windows at all
[05:20] <_daniel_> Hi if I install ubuntu does the installer write over /home
[05:21] <_daniel_> ?
[05:21] <cafuego> MeeKs: Then 10-20GB for Linux, 2 GB swap and the rest /home (data)
[05:21] <Jivenix> what home
[05:21] <MeeKs> ok 2 3 partitions
[05:21] <MeeKs> 3
[05:21] <Jivenix> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:21] <_daniel_> I have a /home partition
[05:21] <wastrel> cafuego:  you forgot /boot
[05:21] <_daniel_> I dont want the installer to write over it
[05:21] <pingu> Sorry for the late reply matthew_w, but I think it was ratpoison at the time :/
[05:21] <cafuego> wastrel: He doesn't need /boot
[05:21] <unperson> cafuego, No /boot ?
[05:21] <Toma-> no /boot
[05:21] <Toma-> *nod*
[05:21] <wastrel> we don't do /boot anymore?
[05:21] <rukuartic> varsendagger, ;)
[05:21] <cafuego> wastrel: We don't run Redhat, so no.
[05:22] <irvin> _daniel_: you can choose to manual partition then tell the installer not to format /home
[05:22] <_daniel_> Can I tell the installer, this is /home, and dont touch it ?
[05:22] <Toma-> unless you install 15 kernels, no need for /boot...
[05:22] <wastrel> heh old habit i suppose
[05:22] <irvin> _daniel_: yes you can... ;)
[05:22] <_daniel_> irvin, and you are 100 % sure it wont touch it ?
[05:22] <_daniel_> like not even my .bashrc ?
[05:22] <rukuartic> Anyone have suggestions on how to set up XOrg to run more faster/efficiently? Would recompiling it help me out or screw me up?
[05:22] <tin_nqn> ok bye... thanks for nothing!
[05:22] <cafuego> _daniel_: If you tell the installer to mount it as /home and not format it, you'll be fine (I did that last sunday)
[05:22] <rukuartic> tin_nqn You're welcome :D
[05:23] <cafuego> rukuartic: 1) faster cpu 2) more ram
[05:23] <_daniel_> ok just wanted to make sure
[05:23] <cafuego> rukuartic: 3) new gfx card
[05:23] <wastrel> rukuartic:  lighter windowmanager
[05:23] <_daniel_> And is there somewer I can get kernel sources to build custom kernel ?
[05:23] <rukuartic> cafuego, I'm actually running 1.2 Ghz and 256 mb ram... not doing too bad for having gamp, hlds, and wine running right now with GAIM and XChat
[05:23] <irvin> _daniel_: yes...
[05:23] <cafuego> dbassett: http://www.cafuego.net/stuff/ibm-java2-sdk-50-linux-ppc.tgz
[05:23] <_daniel_> they are in the repos ?
[05:23] <rukuartic> cafuego, 86 mb still free... but nobody's on the server
[05:23] <synth> so do i need to use kubuntu to get kde on ubuntu
[05:23] <rukuartic> Synth, Not necessarily
[05:24] <Toma-> !ram
[05:24] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Toma-
[05:24] <Toma-> grr
[05:24] <_daniel_> O yeah I am installing kubuntu, that is same as ubuntu right ?
[05:24] <synth> i'm tired of gnome
[05:24] <rukuartic> synth, from what I understand you can aptget it, and then select it at boot (under sessions)
[05:24] <_daniel_> yeah gnome is stupid
[05:24] <dbassett> cafuego: downoading now
[05:24] <Toma-> rukuartic, ram and linux has a totally different use than ram and windows...
[05:24] <_daniel_> I am tired of debian too :(
[05:24] <cafuego> dbassett: cool :-)
[05:24] <dbassett> cafuego: Thanks a bunch, btw
[05:24] <rukuartic> synth and _daniel_ I like xfce!
[05:24] <marcin`> hello
[05:24] <_daniel_> I recommend kde to annyone
[05:24] <cafuego> dbassett: no worries
[05:24] <rukuartic> Toma-, Its four days uptime... not too bad considering I'm running XAMPP too. I forgot :D
[05:24] <marcin`> could someone help me to configure apache2 ?
[05:25] <rukuartic> marcin`, tried #apache?
[05:25] <marcin`> currently my apache is configured with defaults
[05:25] <dbassett> I have an old G3 imac that runs debian with xfce
[05:25] <marcin`> and all I need is to enable something like this: http://myname.localhost
[05:25] <_daniel_> marcin`, open the apache config file an read trhough it
[05:25] <Toma-> rukuartic, i used to run a little server and constantly had 4mb ram free out of the 512mb ram it had. simply because its was going its job and caching it
[05:25] <_daniel_> is not like you dont know english
[05:25] <marcin`> I just need virtual host 'myname' is this possible?
[05:25] <synth> rukuartic, ive used it yeah
[05:26] <_daniel_> marcin`, of course
[05:26] <synth> xfce is great for minimalism
[05:26] <rukuartic> Toma-, Stick evrything in ram to make it go faster?
[05:26] <Mantice> Do you think that the programs 32 bit and it crashes because im ruing 64 bit os
[05:26] <Toma-> rukuartic, pretty much
[05:26] <rukuartic> Synth, thats whats keeping my server alive XD
[05:26] <dbassett> blackbox is also good for minimalism
[05:26] <corvax> try running nautulis and xfce together
[05:26] <corvax> lol
[05:26] <Toma-> the kernel is awesome for dealing with ram. the windows kernel deals with ram like a kid with a packet of lollies. no sharing thx.
[05:26] <Toma-> :)
[05:27] <rukuartic> Whats the difference between Virtual Memory, Shared Memory, and resident memory?
[05:27] <marcin`> _daniel_: any hint how?
[05:27] <corvax> its good for desktop stuff but makes it a dog
[05:27] <psusi> actually, the way linux manages ram has been getting closer and closer to the way the NT kernel does over the last few years
[05:27] <rukuartic> Toma-, Ran HLDS on windows... pings are running at 100. Move to a barebox Linux and pings drop to 50.
[05:27] <Toma-> rukuartic, im sure they all contain different google results.
[05:27] <rukuartic> psusi, No... thats just XOrg...
[05:27] <_daniel_> just create the virtual host, and configure your router to resolve myname.localhost
[05:27] <_daniel_> although that is weird
[05:27] <psusi> rukuartic, no, I said the kernel, and I meant it
[05:27] <ithiel> kameron, got a haircut today
[05:27] <rukuartic> Toma-, Haha... good point
[05:28] <Toma-> :)
[05:28] <_daniel_> if both are in same machine then just make localhost/myname
[05:28] <rukuartic> Toma-, But dang it... I'm only a month into Linux. Doesn't that still qualify me as a nub doze user?
[05:28] <psusi> I used to get very frustrated at the linux kernel because it would never swap out... even when there were 100 megs of data that hadn't been accessed in days that would be better off in swap so that ram could be used for cache
[05:28] <dbassett> cafuego: file is done.  Thanks again
[05:28] <Toma-> rukuartic, more reading = more linux-fu
[05:29] <stoned> here is a stupid question i can't find it on google here
[05:29] <Toma-> hang out in here and youll learn quite a bit
[05:29] <rukuartic> Toma-, more reading = fsadfasd X-x
[05:29] <rukuartic> Toma-, Already have... Thats whats keeping my server running.
[05:29] <stoned> if i play an HD DVD on my computer, will i be able to see hd on my regular computer monitor or does the monitor have to be hd too>'
[05:29] <rukuartic> Toma-, A bucket of ice next to my CPU and #Ubuntu
[05:29] <Toma-> rukuartic, :D i used to bury myself in man pages
[05:29] <psusi> these days linux tends to swap a bit more and put that ram to better use, and how hard it does so is configurable via /proc... NT has allways tried somewhat hard to throw out unused data and put that ram to use for cache
[05:29] <rukuartic> Toma-, I'm too lazy to read them... I just pipe it into a grep of what I'm looking for
[05:30] <Toma-> hah
[05:30] <Mantice> How come Enemy Teratory dont work with my amd64 it says kernel panic
[05:30] <psusi> one could argue that it tries a bit too hard
[05:30] <bjv> does linux swap more to preserve cache?
[05:30] <Toma-> Mantice, is that the 64bit verson of ET?
[05:30] <bjv> my swap rarely even turns on, with only 512 ram.
[05:31] <ryan> hi
[05:31] <bjv> got about 8MB in it right now, probably wont change for days.
[05:31] <Madpilot> Mantice, are you sure it's compiled to run on 64bit?
[05:31] <rukuartic> Is your swap directly acessable like a HD?
[05:31] <Mantice> I dont think so
[05:31] <Toma-> Mem:        256800     252660       4140  :)
[05:31] <psusi> bjv, it used to never use swap until almost all ram was used and there was almost none left in the cache... these days it swaps a bit more... how much is decided by a variable called swappiness you can tweek in /proc
[05:31] <Mantice> I thought I could run 32 bit programs
[05:32] <Q_Continuum> Anybody played with dual displays under nvidia's TwinView that can tell me if I need to have two screen config sections (for each monitor) set up in my xorg.conf?
[05:32] <bjv> psusi: yeah, i just recently was investigating vm settings in /proc
[05:32] <Madpilot> Mantice, you're running the full 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[05:32] <ryan> i just install ubuntu on my comp
[05:32] <apolytes> Q_Continuum yes you do
[05:32] <Mantice> Yes
[05:32] <ryan> and partitioned he linux and windows
[05:32] <dbassett>  cafuego; have you installed sdk for powerpc?
[05:32] <farous> Q_Continuum: on atil it is needed if the two displays have diff resol
[05:32] <apolytes> Q_Continuum: look at the Xinerama howto at tldp.org
[05:32] <Mantice> Do I have to redownload it
[05:32] <AngryElf> hey all, I was looking through the synaptic package manager and noticed there's two kernels in there linux-386 and linux 686 -- if I have a P4 should i be using the 686??
[05:33] <Q_Continuum> if they're identical, just clone 'em and name them one off?  (Nvidia, not ATI in this case)
[05:33] <ryan> ok then
[05:33] <ryan> by
[05:33] <FlannelKing> AngryElf: Yes.
[05:33] <ryan> bye
[05:33] <sam00> hey all, does anyone know how to list all pkgs listed in the repos I have choosen
[05:33] <FlannelKing> AngryElf: although, the 386 will still work fine
[05:33] <sam00> basically so I can pick what I don't have
[05:33] <Toma-> AngryElf, not really "should" can you "can".... theres not a great deal of difference performance wise
[05:33] <frank23> Mantice: it is possible to run basically any 32bit program in 64 bit ubuntu. It is way too frustrating for me though so I just run 32bit Ubuntu instead
[05:33] <rukuartic> sam00, dpkg -l
[05:33] <farous> Q_Continuum: works also with ati :) this way
[05:33] <Madpilot> Mantice, you might be better off running the 32bit Ubuntu on your machine...
[05:33] <rukuartic> sam00, If you're looking for a specific package, you could pipe it into a grep command
[05:33] <sam00> dpkg -l list those I have, I want those I don't have installed
[05:34] <zcat[1] > anyone got zoneminder built on breezy?
[05:34] <liskl_> woohoo installing fallout on unbuntu this rocks
[05:34] <rukuartic> sam00, Oh... dang.
[05:34] <AngryElf> is there a config file i'd need to edit to make it load up by default after it's installed?
[05:34] <Mantice> I thought 64 bit was way faster :)
[05:34] <zcat[1] > configure: error: zm requires Date::Manip
[05:34] <rukuartic> sam00, Lemme see for a second
[05:34] <zcat[1] > where do I find that?
[05:34] <Madpilot> Mantice, might be, but it's way less supported
[05:34] <witless> wastrel: lpadmin group was it, thanks
[05:34] <frank23> Mantice: a bit faster. not way faster.
[05:34] <Mantice> Nah I cant
[05:34] <FlannelKing> did ryan just come in, tell us he had ubuntu /windows installed, and then leave? or did I miss something?
[05:34] <rukuartic> sam00, Haha... I have no clue...
[05:34] <Mantice> Id have to reinstall graphics drivers
[05:34] <dbassett> Has anyone had success installing java SDK on a powerpc (w/ ubuntu)
[05:34] <sam00> that's ok
[05:34] <frank23> Mantice: I'll use it when I can transparently install 32bit programs on it. You cant do that yet
[05:35] <sam00> thanks
[05:35] <farous> dbassett: there is a java built on sun website for 64 bit
[05:35] <apolytes> dbassett: yep.. whats the problem.
[05:35] <psusi> how about when there is no need to install 32 bit programs in the first place? ;)
[05:35] <rukuartic> sam00, I have an idea...
[05:35] <liskl_> i wish that fallout had a native binary though
[05:35] <Mantice> !flash
[05:35] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:35] <sam00> rukuartic: oh?
[05:36] <dbassett> apolytes; the problem is with the make-jpkg command (from java-package).  I get "No matching plugin was found."
[05:36] <rukuartic> sam00, Darn... never mind. >< If you go into synaptic, they can give you a list of everything and what you have is marked
[05:36] <Mantice> !flash
[05:36] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:36] <Toma-> cheerio
[05:36] <rukuartic> sam00, But I'm guessing thats nto whatyou want
[05:37] <tman_ubuntu> I'm getting error message from java.  Can someone help please?
[05:37] <sam00> rukuartic: yeah I know, but wanted a command line thing
[05:37] <dbassett> following instructions from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[05:37] <rukuartic> tman_ubuntu, Whats up?
[05:37] <IdleOne> !b-e
[05:37] <ubotu> methinks b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[05:37] <Mantice> Is there a easy way to get firefox working with flash
[05:37] <rukuartic> sam00, I was guessing that...
[05:37] <kkm> i cant make an internet connection on linux its the first time im using it i dl ubuntu live CD ?
[05:37] <rukuartic> kkm, wireless or wired?
[05:37] <tman_ubuntu> I'm trying to compile a simple class file with a reference to mail.jar and it's saying mail.jar doesn't have a method when I know it does.
[05:38] <nickrud> sam00: all install packages, or all available packages?
[05:38] <rukuartic> kkm, Dialup or broadband?
[05:38] <kkm> rukuartic: adsl
[05:38] <zcat[1] > w00t .. seems to be building now
[05:38] <rukuartic> nickrud, He's looking for all not installed
[05:38] <tman_ubuntu> Message.setSendDate() it is looking for.
[05:38] <rukuartic> nickrud, compare installed with avaliable for difference?
[05:38] <frank23> Mantice: check the forums. You'll find 64bit can be a !@#$%^
[05:38] <johnny> anybody seen a good tutorial to add two nics to ubuntu ?
[05:38] <lwizardl> hi
[05:38] <sam00> nickrud: uninstalled pkgs ( in repo listed in source.lis )
[05:38] <rukuartic> kkm, Are you connecting to a router?
[05:38] <johnny> i've seen a few.. but these two use the same kernel mod
[05:39] <bubba_> frank23, true dat.
[05:39] <rukuartic> kkm, Through a network card for example?
[05:39] <dbassett> apolytes: any suggestions?
[05:39] <lwizardl> where can i get a ubuntu compatible floppy image?
[05:39] <andrei> hey all
[05:39] <kkm> rukuartic: Which way should i connect i dont know :/
[05:39] <mang3lo> in setting up the interfaces file, my network and gateway ip...what are they... -_-...i know one is my actual router (192.168.1.1) but i dont know the other (helpplz, lol, newb question,i know )
[05:39] <rukuartic> kkm, How did you used to connect?
[05:39] <nickrud> sam00: aptitude search '!~i'
[05:39] <FlannelKing> lwizardl: you just mean a floppy that ubuntu can read?
[05:39] <andrei> how do i update ubuntu
[05:40] <kkm> rukuartic: Through adsl eternet
[05:40] <tman_ubuntu> rukuartic:  I'm using Ubuntu Dapper AMD64
[05:40] <rukuartic> kkm, Look at the back of your computer... there should be something that looks like an oversized telephone cable that plugs in...
[05:40] <rukuartic> tman_ubuntu, Sorry... Meh. I'm not all that good with Java :p
[05:40] <bubba_> mang3lo, your gateway is 192.168.1.1 probably.
[05:40] <sam00> nickrud: Thanks! great
[05:40] <rukuartic> tman_ubuntu, I was hoping it was a syntax error XD
[05:40] <lwizardl> FlannelKing: yes i'm looking for a floppy to boot the cd
[05:40] <nickrud> sam00: aptitude is pretty useful, worth learning ;)
[05:40] <Madpilot> andrei, there's a little red icon that'll appear next to the clock when you have updates available - unless you mean 'how do I update to the development version"
[05:40] <Mantice> Any one got a Cedga account?
[05:41] <FlannelKing> lwizardl: does your bios not support booting from a CD?
[05:41] <andrei> hey can i right a program that automatically mutes upon startup, and can i bind f1 and f2 to brightness and f3,f4,f5 to volume like in mac osx
[05:41] <tman_ubuntu> rukuartic:  wish it was that simple.
[05:41] <mang3lo> bubba: how would i find out my network?  if gateway is specific to the router...ive no clue where the network ip would be
[05:41] <rukuartic> tman_ubuntu, So do I :P
[05:41] <kkm> rukuartic: yes ethernet
[05:41] <lwizardl> on my 2nd pc no doesn't have option in bios
[05:41] <rukuartic> kkm, type ifconfig in the console
[05:41] <andrei> if i click on that icon, nothing happens
[05:41] <sam00> nickrud: well usefull here, had the impression dpkg can do it all ...
[05:42] <nickrud> sam00: dpkg doesn't track packages that aren't installed
[05:42] <AngryElf> what's the fastest way to get xorg.conf to reload?
[05:42] <kkm> rukuartic: Can you guide me in a more simpler way i dont know much
[05:42] <rukuartic> kkm, Mmmf...
[05:42] <farous> AngryElf: just restart x
[05:42] <nickrud> AngryElf: clt-alt-backspace
[05:42] <rukuartic> Eh...
[05:43] <rukuartic> kkm, If you go into System and look for network configuration...
[05:43] <fangorious> I can't seem to run nautilus any more, http://pastebin.com/576121
[05:43] <rukuartic> Can someone help kkm get his interface up?
[05:43] <andrei> hey when i click on the update icon, nothing happens
[05:44] <fangorious> almost the same error for rhythmbox
[05:44] <rukuartic> kkm, Open a console really quick... do you know how to do that?
[05:44] <rukuartic> kkm, Its also called a "terminal"
[05:44] <fangorious> http://pastebin.com/576122
[05:44] <kkm> rukuartic: I am using windows atm i am going to write all this down on paper and reboot my pc with linux so if u can gudie me like in a very smple way telling me for ex: go to system then etc...
[05:44] <IdleOne> andrei:  in terminal type sudo apt-get update
[05:44] <Mantice> ./flashplayer-installer - oh crap poodles :(
[05:44] <rukuartic> kkm, I'm not too good at all this, but I'll try
[05:45] <Mantice> Is there a 64 bit flash?
[05:45] <kkm> rukuartic: mate your WAY better then me :)
[05:45] <nickrud> Mantice: no
[05:45] <andrei> oh thanx idleone, btw i accidently did that b4 u told me to lol
[05:45] <rukuartic> kkm, First, I'd start a terminal. You'd find that under Applications>Utilities>Terminal (I think)
[05:45] <bubba_> kkm, click system/administration/networking, from there click ethernet controller, click properties.
[05:45] <Mantice> How hard would it to downgrade to 32 ?
[05:45] <andrei> how do i bind keys to change screen brightness
[05:45] <rukuartic> kkm, bubba_'s got you covered
[05:45] <dbassett> Has anyone had success installing java SDK on a powerpc (w/ ubuntu)?
[05:45] <nickrud> Mantice: it would take a reinstall
[05:45] <Mantice> of the whole OS ?
[05:46] <andrei> dbassett, i have a powerpc
[05:46] <andrei> what do u want me to do
[05:46] <rukuartic> bubba_, XD I'm in XFCE... no Gnome
[05:46] <nickrud> Mantice: yes, everything from scratch
[05:46] <Jolly> where can i go to get the default pw for nextel
[05:46] <johnny> i think my /etc/network/interfaces file is correct
[05:46] <Mantice> :( I cant bring my self to do it
[05:46] <dbassett> andrei, you installed java sdk?
[05:46] <IdleOne> kkm:  go to System > Admintration > networking and look for eth0 then enable it . close the window and try connecting to the net
[05:46] <rukuartic> IdleOne, gotta make sure he has his DNS set up right...
[05:46] <andrei> nope
[05:46] <andrei> how do i do that
[05:46] <Mantice> is there a 32 bit emulator for games?
[05:46] <andrei> oh btw, how do i install updates
[05:47] <IdleOne> kkm if that doesnt work come back in wondows and we can figure out how to get you a hammer and smash it
[05:47] <andrei> is it sudo apt-get install update
[05:47] <bubba_> rukuartic, grr... sorry, i cant remember how to do it it in XFCE... you can do it from the command line too... like mentioned erlier...
[05:47] <Jolly> what channel can i go to learn about phreaking
[05:47] <Brunellus_> when building my own kernel, does it matter that the only linux-source package is 2.6.12 and not 2.6.12-9 ?
[05:47] <dbassett> sudo aptitude update
[05:47] <dbassett> sudo aptitude upgrade
[05:47] <rukuartic> bubba_, No, I'm in XFCE. He's in Gnome (I'm pretty sure)
[05:47] <IdleOne> rukuartic:  is dhcp didnt fail at install it should work
[05:47] <IdleOne> is=if
[05:47] <rukuartic> bubba_, ifup eth0 I think...
[05:48] <bubba_> kkm, probably, at the command line you can just issue dhclient eth0 and it will work.
[05:48] <rukuartic> IdleOne, unless he's running on a static IP
[05:48] <Madpilot> Mantice, wine or cedage, but I don't think they work in 64bit Linux
[05:48] <wastrel> hi
[05:48] <twitch101> how do i install internet explorer under wine so i can install the .net framework?
[05:48] <bubba_> rukuartic, ooops... sorry..
[05:48] <rukuartic> bubba_, XD We might be confusing him with info overload
[05:48] <IdleOne> rukuartic:  doubtful
[05:48] <Agent_bob> i need someone to walk me through some ssh problems.   i know nothing about networking.
[05:48] <rukuartic> twitch101, Now why'd you wanna go and ruin Linux with doze? :P
[05:48] <frank23> Mantice: you can get cedega to work in 64bit but its not trivial
[05:48] <nickrud> Mantice: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot , it's not simple, but you can set up a 32bit environment for running flash and the like.
[05:48] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, have you seen the SSH howto page on the wiki?
[05:48] <andrei> helpp how do i install updates AFTER sudo apt-get update
[05:48] <twitch101> because i need the .net framwork to run a windows program duh....
[05:48] <fangorious> twitch101: can you not use Mono?
[05:49] <Agent_bob> Madpilot no
[05:49] <twitch101> i have that installed and the program still asks for .net fram work
[05:49] <Madpilot> !ssh
[05:49] <ubotu> it has been said that ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[05:49] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, ^^^
[05:49] <twitch101> or i can give you the wine output...
[05:49] <bubba_> probably his ethernet is eth0, and probably it just needs to config via dhcp, but it is a mystery.
[05:49] <kkm> cheers rukuartic - bubba_ IdleOne lol
[05:49] <rukuartic> kkm, Good luck mate
[05:49] <frank23> Mantice: but my advice to you is just to run 32bit. I've tried both
[05:49] <IdleOne> kkm good luck see you soon
[05:49] <andrei> help me
[05:49] <rukuartic> kkm, Its frusterating at first, but you'll get a handle of it
[05:49] <andrei> how do i bind keys to BRIGHTNESS
[05:49] <rukuartic> andrei, Eh... I think there's something under System
[05:50] <rukuartic> andrei, Keyboard shortcuts I think
[05:50] <hawkeye> hello?
[05:50] <IdleOne> heya hawkeye
[05:50] <bubba_> kkm, didja get things working ?
[05:50] <_jason> !ssh is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[05:50] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[05:50] <rukuartic> andrei, But I think you want to bind to gamma, not brightness... brightness is changed with the buttons/wheel on your monitor
[05:50] <hawkeye> my first time linux
[05:50] <IdleOne> bubba_:  he is in windows right now
[05:50] <andrei> i use a laptop
[05:51] <bubba_> IdleOne, ewww!
[05:51] <varsendagger> hey hawkeye
[05:51] <andrei> so there not physical brightness setting
[05:51] <hawkeye> how do i install amsn?
[05:51] <twitch101> "Pease set registry key    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NETFramework/InstallRoot     to point to the .NET Framework installation'
[05:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hei
[05:51] <rukuartic> hawkeye, Did you download the source?
[05:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone here can use the rename command?
[05:51] <hawkeye> yea
[05:51] <IdleOne> hawkeye:  you need to enable repos first
[05:51] <rukuartic> hawkeye, three commands.
[05:51] <Madpilot> hawkeye, gAIM does msn - Application menu -> Internet -> gaim
[05:51] <anotherdm> ive got this AMD-Athlon64-nvidia chipset based system to install on but i seem to recall seeing something about there being some annoyances with the AMD64 architecture. Is that correct? where can I find out more?
[05:51] <IdleOne> !tell hawkeye  about repos
[05:51] <rukuartic> hawkeye, ./configure
[05:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have to rename a bunch of mp3 files in wav, since the extension is wrong
[05:51] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: probably lots, what's up?
[05:51] <rukuartic> hawkeye, make
[05:51] <twitch101> how do i install internet explorer under wine so i can install the .net framework?
[05:51] <rukuartic> hawkeye, sudo make install
[05:52] <bubba_> anotherdm, can be a bitch to get things working right... but i managed... it took all weekend though.
[05:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> _jason: something like:  mv *.mp3 *.wav
[05:52] <Madpilot> rukuartic, build-essential needs to be installed first...
[05:52] <IdleOne> rukuartic:  why compile when its packaged? btw he said its his first time using linux so he doesnt have a clue about compile probably
[05:52] <bubba_> anotherdm, using i386 ubuntu installs easier.
[05:52] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: rename -n 's/\.mp3$/.wav/' *
[05:52] <frank23> anotherdm: if you install the regular i386 32bit ubuntu, it should work like a charm
[05:52] <rukuartic> Madpilot, good point
[05:52] <rukuartic> IdleOne, ...erf.
[05:52] <Mantice> This guy burns 20 copies of Ubuntu and heads to his local McDonalds
[05:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> _jason: can you explain that to me?
[05:53] <Mantice> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=136176&highlight=install%20flash
[05:53] <AngryElf> hey all, does anyone here gotten imwheel working with theri IntelliMouse?
[05:53] <fangorious> how do I divert a files that's part of a repo package, so I can symlink to a manually installed version?
[05:53] <andrei> how do i install updates
[05:53] <Madpilot> rukuartic, but for amsn, gaim works AFAIK
[05:53] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: the -n will make it not actually do anything, just show you what it would do, if it looks ok then just get rid of -n
[05:53] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: man regex :)
[05:53] <rukuartic> Madpilot, Agreed.
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> AngryElf,  i havent had to use imwheel in ages.
[05:53] <fangorious> andrei: at a command line, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:53] <IdleOne> Mantice:  bring me back a #1 with coke ()
[05:53] <AngryElf> i'm trying to get the two buttons on the side of the mouse to do back/forward in firefox
[05:53] <fangorious> Dr_Willis: what do you use (both software and what mouse)?
[05:53] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: basically it says change all the .mp3 at the end to a .wav
[05:53] <johnny> anybody have a router/firewall setup with ubuntu ?
[05:53] <Mantice> lol
[05:53] <nickrud> Tallia1Kubuntu: there's a gui app called prefixsuffix
[05:53] <andrei> thanx fangorious so much
[05:54] <andrei> how do i get my intellimouse to work
[05:54] <andrei> where drivers
[05:54] <AngryElf> problem is i tested them in xev and they're registering as buttons 2 and 3 instead of 6 & 7
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> fangorious,  i used dozens of the  logitech and MS mice.. and havent had to use imwheel in proberly 3+ years.
[05:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> _jason: i have been through regex several times..
[05:54] <Madpilot> andrei, what doesn't work right away?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> AngryElf,  you can switch that in the xorg.conf ith the right settings
[05:54] <andrei> my mouse
[05:54] <andrei> i used it on mac osx
[05:54] <rukuartic> Dr_Willis, If you know mice... would you know why my ps/2 GM laser won't work?
[05:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how did you became so familiar with them?
[05:54] <andrei> its microsoft made, new and white
[05:54] <andrei> so i assume its intellimouse
[05:54] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: actually rename uses perl regex, so man perlrequick
[05:54] <andrei> i dunno where to get drivers
[05:54] <fangorious> Dr_Willis: so you get all the buttons supported (thumb buttons for forward and back) with no manual config?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> rukuartic,  'problem exists between keyboard and chair' ? :P
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> heh...
[05:55] <andrei> PICNIC
[05:55] <Agent_bob> Madpilot doesn't do a thing for me....   i try to login localhost ssh to localhost sshd  and it gives a passwd prompt, i type the password and then it just sits there.   no prompt no responce to commands CR will move the curser down a line but that is all...    any idea on what that might be ?
[05:55] <andrei> lol
[05:55] <AngryElf> something's not registering right, brb...trying somethin new
[05:55] <bubba_> kac
[05:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> _jason: i see, but anyway why do you know them so well?
[05:55] <rukuartic> Dr_Willis, Mouse buttons work... but the laser doesn't light :P Works in 'doze
[05:55] <fangorious> andrei: you shouldn't really need drivers for it, but many people need to tweak their config
[05:55] <Madpilot> andrei, you shouldn't need drivers. I've got an MS mouse too
[05:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> are you a regex maniac?
[05:55] <johnny> Agent_bob,  try to view the logs ?
[05:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> thers a dozen+ web sites out on setting up these mose...
[05:55] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: I read the man pages!
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> rukuartic,  now thats weird...
[05:55] <IdleOne> Agent_bob:  try telnet
[05:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> _jason: that's all? and you remember them?
[05:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wow
[05:55] <rukuartic> Dr_Willis, You betcha :P
[05:55] <Agent_bob> johnny there are no logs.
[05:55] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, no idea, the few times I've used SSH it's just worked
[05:55] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: and I played with them a bit, that is probably the best
[05:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> _jason: i se
[05:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[05:55] <andrei> i plug the mouse into the usb port and it doesnt work
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Ill stick with my MX518
[05:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx for the help anyway
[05:56] <Mantice> I herd that there where some flash altenatives ?
[05:56] <fangorious> Dr_Willis: yeah, but what worked in breezy doesn't work for me (Same hardware) in dapper, indeed xmodmap now thinks I have an 11 button mouse rather than 6 (and in breezy i had to configure it as 7)
[05:56] <farous> Agent_bob: is the pc you are trying to ssh to have a ssh server on it
[05:56] <nickrud> Tallia1Kubuntu: try prefixsuffix , it's perfect for what you're trying to do
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> fangorious,  test out some live cd's find one that works.. and dissect its x config file and see what its doing.
[05:56] <Madpilot> andrei, open a terminal and type "lsusb"
[05:56] <andrei> if i plug the mouse in, nothing happens
[05:56] <andrei> oh
[05:56] <andrei> h.o
[05:56] <andrei> lol
[05:57] <MeeKs> does this look right?   primary ext3 20.0gb /        2gb swap        / logical ext3 228gb /home
[05:57] <Agent_bob> farous it is this box.  and yes.     localhost to localhost
[05:57] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: there are probably a few online tutorials that are a little easier to read than the man pages
[05:57] <AngryElf> ok, got it working Dr_Willis I think it didn't automatically pick it up because I'm running the mouse through a KVM switch
[05:57] <fangorious> well, i already know how to make it work: use breezy! but the config from that doesn't work on dapper :(
[05:57] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: do you understand the command now?  which part are you unsure about?
[05:57] <farous> Agent_bob: you need a ssh server installed
[05:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> AngryElf,  yep - kvms can be an issue.
[05:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[05:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i understand the command
[05:57] <Agent_bob> farous can you read ?
[05:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's a bit syntax complex
[05:57] <farous> Agent_bob: install the package open-ssh server search for a package with this name
[05:57] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: now the important question: did it work? :)
[05:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it has a bit complex sintax
[05:57] <Agent_bob> farous can you read ?
[05:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[05:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> perfectly
[05:57] <AngryElf> where can i stick two commands so they get run everytime the comp gets booted?
[05:58] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: which part is complex?
[05:58] <farous> Agent_bob: can't you understand
[05:58] <andrei> ok i typed in lsusb, it says port 2 theres microsoft thingy, what now
[05:58] <zcat[1] > AngryElf: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in general regex sintax is not very intuitive
[05:58] <rukuartic> AngryElf, rc.d in /etc/init I think
[05:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's the name of the manpage?
 Agent_bob: can't you understand <--- pot calling the kettel black helps nothing.
[05:58] <rukuartic> AngryElf, Careful what you edit... might be easier to use webmin or another program
[05:58] <farous> anyway one more to the ignore list
[05:59] <Bandit> gentlemen ...relax :)
[05:59] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: I suppose, it's like a new language in a way.  perlrequick and perlretut are the two man pages for perl regex
[05:59] <rukuartic> All my base are belong to Bandit
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> depends on what you want to run and why also AngryElf
[05:59] <firstcobra88> hi
[05:59] <_jason> Tallia1Kubuntu: man perl will list all the man pages for a bunch of perl stuff
[05:59] <firstcobra88> is there any1 here that can help me with nvidia driver?
[06:00] <Agent_bob> now will someone that knows something about networking/sshd please try to help me figure this out ?
[06:00] <rukuartic> !tell firstcobra88 about nvidia
[06:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell firstcobra88 about nvidia
[06:00] <andrei> k i typed in lsusb, and there IS something on 2nd usb port, a microsoft thing, so it is registering but the mouse doesnt work
[06:00] <AngryElf> Dr_Willis, xmodmap and imwheel to get these buttons working correctly??
[06:00] <thelsdj> hrm i think i found a bug in the ssh tab complete in bash, locks up shell, anyone want to try it and see if you can confirm?
[06:00] <Madpilot> andrei, is the mouse plugged in when you start the machine?
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> AngryElf,  theres proberly better way to do it.. but i just use the extra buttons in games for my Grenads and so forth.
[06:00] <andrei> no madpilot
[06:00] <andrei> its not
[06:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[06:01] <rukuartic> Dr_Willis, you mean bzflag? :P
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> rukuartic,  RTCW:ET
[06:01] <Mantice> Is there a program that can run 32 bit code on a 64 bit os
[06:01] <rukuartic> Dr_Willis, rofl... thought I was being tolt to rtfm
[06:01] <Madpilot> andrei, try restarting with the mouse plugged in (although USB stuff should be hot-pluggable...)
[06:01] <Bandit> Agent_bob what are you attempting to do?
[06:01] <andrei> ok give me an hour cuz it takes FOR EVER TO BEGIN
[06:01] <andrei> sry
[06:01] <IdleOne> Mantice:  would be easier for you to install 32bit ubuntu and reinstall the drivers
[06:01] <andrei> just venting
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Any backports users here?  I just installed and ran automatix, and it added the backports repo (among many others) to sources.list.  This means I know have many updatable packages, but I'm not sure I really want to update them all.
[06:02] <IdleOne> Madpilot:  even if it is a M$ mouse?
[06:02] <frank23> Mantice: the chroot like pasted earlier is what you need
[06:02] <rukuartic> Is it just me, or does 64bit cause more problems than it solves?
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> s/know/now/
[06:02] <rukuartic> Oh! Question...
[06:02] <Madpilot> IdleOne, I've got an MS mouse, never had any trouble with it
[06:02] <frank23> Mantice https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[06:02] <Agent_bob> Bandit trying to get sshd configured so i can use it.
[06:02] <HAL> What is the command to check running kernel version?
[06:02] <wastrel> !automatix
[06:02] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation. See !easyubuntu.
[06:02] <varsendagger> how do i get cinerrlla
[06:02] <rukuartic> Why is it that there are two usernames when I do ls -l? Eg -rwxr-x-r-x somefile root rukuartic blah blah
[06:03] <Agent_bob> Bandit the error i am having now is.
[06:03] <Agent_bob>       Password:
[06:03] <Madpilot> IdleOne, MS make nice mice, it's just a shame about their operating systems :P
[06:03] <Agent_bob> Connection to localhost closed.
[06:03] <varsendagger> !makeclean
[06:03] <ubotu> varsendagger: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:03] <frank23> rukuartic: if you dont care about multimedia, games or closed source, programs, 64bit is fine
[06:03] <Bandit> yep
[06:03] <IdleOne> Madpilot:  thats all i use also heh
[06:03] <nickrud> rukuartic: first reference is owner, second is the group
[06:03] <Bandit> you need the pword of the other machine
[06:03] <farous> rukuartic: each time you run a terminal it is as if having another user
[06:03] <EnsignRedshirt> wastrel, ubotu: *Now* you tell me... :)
[06:03] <Agent_bob> Bandit it's this machine   lol   "localhost"
[06:03] <fangorious> Dr_Willis: do you use evdev? (I lost track of the moust thread for a minute, so sorry if you already mentioned)
[06:03] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, you've got an account on the other machine, right?
[06:04] <Agent_bob> Madpilot yes    lol
[06:04] <bimberi> EnsignRedshirt: best to only have backports enabled for installs, not updated
[06:04] <Bandit> Agent_bob then type in the password of the machine lol
[06:04] <Madpilot> Agent_bob, just checking
[06:04] <bimberi> *updates
[06:04] <rukuartic> nickrud, Ah, thanky gurtly
[06:04] <bubba_> hrm... those mplayer codecs arent going to work on my 64bit system are they ?
[06:04] <rukuartic> nickrud, So its chown <user>:<group> files
[06:04] <nickrud> rukuartic: exactly
[06:04] <Mantice> frank23
[06:05] <Madpilot> rukuartic, "man chown" for enlightenment
[06:05] <rukuartic> Madpilot, AAAH NO! Not man pages! :: sweats::
[06:05] <Agent_bob> Bandit  i did enter the passwd.   and it says... Connection to localhost closed
[06:05] <bubba_> Madpilot, I love enlightenment :)
[06:05] <rukuartic> nickrud, what are you suggesting!? O_O
[06:05] <frank23> bubba_: you would need to run a 32bit mplayer to use the w32codecs
[06:05] <EnsignRedshirt> I ran automatix, but I didn't actually use it to install anything.  Is there a simple way to undo everything that it did?  Did it do anything besides change sources.list?
[06:05] <nickrud> nothing now
[06:06] <andrei> nope didnt work
[06:06] <andrei> mouse still doesnt work
[06:06] <rukuartic> andrei, if you click the buttons, does it do anything?
[06:06] <Madpilot> andrei, try a different USB port?
[06:06] <Agent_bob> Bandit i've tried two different accounts.  (with correct passwords)  always just   "Connection to localhost closed"
[06:07] <andrei> buttons dont do anything, neither does diff usb port
[06:07] <rukuartic> Agent_bob, firewalled?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> 'friends dont let friends use automatix' :P
[06:07] <bimberi> EnsignRedshirt: no idea what it does in total, but you can disable backports repos with 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and commenting out any lines with backports in them
[06:08] <rukuartic> Wewt. 4 days uptime!
[06:08] <nickrud> farous: usually because they're already frustrated before the get here
[06:08] <salah> Hi
[06:08] <Agent_bob> rukuartic yes. but wouldn't that keep it from getting to the passwd prompt if that were the problem ?
[06:08] <mikebo1> could someone help me with an nvidia error?
[06:08] <rukuartic> Agent_bob, Don't know.
[06:08] <farous> nickrud: but that does not help. anyway thanx i understand now
[06:08] <salah> I have Broadcom 802.11 b/g WLAN
[06:08] <EnsignRedshirt> bimberi: Actually, it looks like automatix made a backup of my sources.list, so I can restore that.
[06:08] <salah> How can I activete
[06:08] <rukuartic> salah, Ndiswrapper
[06:08] <Madpilot> Dr_Willis, that should be in this channel's /topic :P
[06:08] <rukuartic> !tell salah about ndiswrapepr
[06:09] <rukuartic> !tell salah about ndiswrapper
[06:09] <Agent_bob> rukuartic port 22 is supposed to be open anyway.
[06:09] <rukuartic> salah, I'd be glad to help you if ya get stuck, but the instructions are pretty good
[06:09] <IdleOne> Agent_bob:  it should be but might not be
[06:09] <AngryElf> so i put the two commands, xmodmap and imwheel in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh but I don't think either got run when I booted???
[06:09] <salah> please
[06:09] <rukuartic> Agent_bob, Try putting yourself outside of the fw for a bit...
[06:09] <Agent_bob> rukuartic at least when i ran quicktables i told it to leave 22 open.
[06:09] <mikebo1> anyone know about nvidia?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[06:09] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:09] <AngryElf> back/forward didn't work, and when i ran xmodmap manually everything worked out fine
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:10] <rukuartic> mikebo1, Ubotu knows all.
[06:10] <rukuartic> !pancakes
[06:10] <ubotu> rukuartic: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:10] <rukuartic> pancakes are good ubotu
[06:10] <mikebo1> Dr_Willis: no, but i installed it and have a fatal error, i can only get command prompts when i try to use ubuntu now
[06:10] <Q_Continuum> !Outlook
[06:10] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Q_Continuum
[06:10] <salah> How can I do that
[06:10] <babo> my crontab won't work ... I'm running it as root ... 9 14 * * * echo "Imaginary crontab"
[06:10] <salah> Actually I am new
[06:10] <nickrud> AngryElf: those two (xmodmap for sure) probably should go into ~/.gnomerc
[06:10] <Agent_bob> IdleOne iptables -L  says  "ACCEPT     tcp  --  anywhere             anywhere            tcp dpt:ssh"
[06:10] <andrei> my mouse still dont work after reboot
[06:10] <rukuartic> salah, Its all good. That was my first problem too
[06:10] <AngryElf> nickrud, what's the difference?
[06:11] <salah> So please tell me what I have to do
[06:11] <andrei> also, when i boot and ubuntu tries to load modules, it gets an error which slows everything down "file could not be found"
[06:11] <IdleOne> Agent_bob:  just brain storming..took a guess I was wrong ;/
[06:11] <rukuartic> salah, Did you read that site ubotu sent you?
[06:11] <aslkzxmn> make sure your mouse have detected
[06:11] <nickrud> AngryElf: so they are definitely run after X has started (I don't know about imwheel, I've never used it)
[06:11] <salah> not all of them
[06:12] <salah> I have Broadcom 802.11 b/g WLAN in my laptop
[06:12] <Agent_bob> IdleOne one i'm cool with that.    i need all the new ideas i can get.   just showing that that one was already covered.
[06:12] <rukuartic> salah, thats probably your best bet
[06:12] <mikebo1> anyone know about fatal errors with nvidia?
[06:12] <drgreborn> how do icheck if mingw is installed properly? when I gcc -V it shows the posic not mingw gcc
[06:12] <andrei> hellooooo
[06:12] <rukuartic> drgreborn, an idea... type whatis mingw
[06:12] <andrei> my intellimouse wont work
[06:12] <salah> please tell me  steps
[06:13] <rukuartic> salah, Try reading that link I gave you...
[06:13] <farous> salah you need to read the howto on ndiswrapper
[06:13] <rukuartic> farous, Sent the link to salah...
[06:13] <andrei> my intellimouse wont work
[06:13] <drgreborn> nope comes back with nothing appropiate
[06:13] <Q_Continuum> I've tried several tutorials, the official guide, etc, can't get TwinView working on my Nvidia card.  Anyone mind taking a peek at my xorg.conf?   www.outspokengeek.net/misc/xorg.conf
[06:13] <farous> salah but as a quick way. That is how i did it. install ndisgtk, network-manager
[06:13] <twitch101> !pastebin
[06:13] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:13] <farous> rukuartic: yah i seen that
[06:14] <IdleOne> salah:  if you want to learn linux you will have to read alot! read the instructions the bot gave you
[06:14] <andrei> can someone give me a link to intellimouse drivers
[06:14] <farous> salah you will need to search a little for your driver
[06:14] <IdleOne> !mice
[06:14] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[06:14] <Q_Continuum> andrei 3-button (2 button and wheel) or more than that?
[06:14] <rukuartic> salah, Should be on the CD that came with the card.
[06:14] <andrei> yea
[06:14] <Q_Continuum> 3-button should just work...
[06:14] <IdleOne> !mittens
[06:14] <andrei> 2 button 1 wheel
[06:14] <ubotu> IdleOne: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:14] <rukuartic> !pancake
[06:14] <ubotu> rukuartic: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:15] <Agent_bob> andrei change the protocal to imps2  maybe  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:15] <keeb> =)
[06:15] <jbroome> i didn't have to do anything special to get mine to work
[06:15] <andrei> what?
[06:15] <rukuartic> ubotu, pancake is good
[06:15] <ubotu> okay, rukuartic
[06:15] <andrei> sry im noov
[06:15] <andrei> *noob
[06:15] <rukuartic> !pancake
[06:15] <andrei> no idea what that means
[06:15] <IdleOne> ubotu: Miteens is your cat
[06:15] <ubotu> okay, IdleOne
[06:15] <jbroome> please don't play with the bot in here
[06:15] <IdleOne> sorry
[06:15] <rukuartic> jbroome, sorry...
[06:15] <Madpilot> IdleOne, spamming the bot is a good way to get removed...
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> Q_Continuum,  mine is here --> http://pastebin.com/575163
[06:15] <andrei> agent_bot what does thar mean in n00b terms
[06:15] <Q_Continuum> I just plug in my 3-button Intellimouse, and it just works.
[06:15] <andrei> its mac mouse
[06:15] <Madpilot> IdleOne, use "!forget <thing>" to clear the bot out
[06:15] <andrei> i bought at apple store
[06:16] <IdleOne> Madpilot:  :/ sorry didnt mean to spam the bot and I typoed
[06:16] <andrei> for my ibook
[06:16] <twitch101> can someone help me with this "  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9484   "
[06:16] <AngryElf> nickrud, I have no ~/.gnomerc if i create it will it get loaded automatically?
[06:16] <andrei> which is this computer
[06:16] <Agent_bob> andrei open that file in a text editor and find the mouse section and you will see what i was saying.    change  autops2  to imps2
[06:16] <IdleOne> !forget Miteens
[06:16] <ubotu> i forgot miteens, IdleOne
[06:16] <jetscreamer> !botlove
[06:16] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jetscreamer
[06:16] <Q_Continuum> andrei, running Ubuntu?
[06:16] <nickrud> AngryElf: yes (I am assuming you're using ubuntu, not kubuntu)
[06:16] <EnsignRedshirt> Well, I removed the automatix package, and restored my sources.list. Hopefully that's all I needed to do.
[06:16] <AngryElf> nickrud, yes i am
[06:16] <twitch101> can someone help me with this "  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9484   "
[06:16] <Agent_bob> what will cause sshd to terminate the connection after password is entered?
[06:16] <IdleOne> Madpilot:  would be nice if the bot new who it's cat is dont you think? :P
[06:17] <HAL> where do I download kernel source from? (Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic)
[06:17] <jetscreamer> you didn't spell mittens right anyway
[06:17] <rukuartic> HAL, sudo apt-get install sources I think... can someone confirm?
[06:17] <IdleOne> jetscreamer:  yeah I know
[06:17] <twitch101> can someone help me with this "  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9484   "
[06:17] <jetscreamer> are you sure you want the kernel-source, or just the kernel-headers
[06:17] <rukuartic> HAL, Don't do it just yet... get a confirm on that first
[06:17] <andrei> yes im running ubuntu
[06:17] <andrei> on this g3 powerpc ibook
[06:18] <HAL> rgr
[06:18] <bimberi> HAL: lunux-source-2.6.12 is the package, however you might only need the headers if you're compiling something - 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[06:18] <andrei> and its already at imps2 not autops2
[06:18] <twitch101> can someone help me with this "  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9484   "
[06:18] <jbroome> twitch101: asking every minute is a good way to get people to *not* help you with you problem
[06:18] <twitch101> they werent helping anyway
[06:18] <andrei> sry all i gotta go to sleep
[06:18] <andrei> cya
[06:18] <rukuartic> twitch101, Looked at the wiki?
[06:18] <andrei> tomorrow same time
[06:18] <twitch101> yea
[06:18] <IdleOne> twitch101:  give them a minute to look over the paste ()
[06:18] <nickrud> twitch101: because we didn't know the answer?
[06:18] <HAL> thanks
[06:19] <Chrustinho> I search a tool, which can copy a svcd. Does anybody have a tipp for me??
[06:19] <twitch101> then someone could have atleast said that
[06:19] <jetscreamer> that's a question, twitch101?
[06:19] <h3ax> ..
[06:19] <thelsdj> twitch101: only chance you could have is installing the ms .net framework under wine, but not likely to work
[06:19] <twitch101> could someone help me with it the question is in the paste bin
[06:19] <farous> twitch101: did you look for native linux alternatives for msn
[06:19] <HAL> bimberi, thanks just trying to recompile under gcc 4 so nvidia driver doesnt complain while installing
[06:19] <twitch101> im not using msn....
[06:19] <bimberi> HAL: kk, np :)
[06:19] <jetscreamer> why don't you just ask the one line question
[06:20] <thelsdj> twitch101: what is that program you are trying to run?
[06:20] <EnsignRedshirt> twitch101: Nobody will say "Nobody knows the answer", since nobody knows that.
[06:20] <cK-gLocK> anyone here can tellme proper cmd to install .rpm files i downloaded nero linux and am trying to install im not a newb just gimme str8 forward cmd/answer =)
[06:20] <farous> twitch101: ok sorry though you were looking for .net let me check your post again
[06:20] <twitch101> its a ppf mass patcher
[06:20] <rukuartic> cK-gLocK, gotta get alien and RPM through apt-get I think...
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> cK-gLocK,  from what i hear - k3b is better then NeroLinux in most ways. :()
[06:20] <jetscreamer> cK-gLocK: sudo apt-get install alien && sudo alien -(iforget) blah.deb
[06:20] <iceman> ok, i need help, for some reason ubuntu installs and no matter what goes to the onboard video, i need to reconfigure it to use the nvidia card .... and not the onboard ?
[06:20] <IdleOne> cK-gLocK:  you cant install .rpm files. atleast it isnt reccomended
[06:20] <salah> ActuallyI am  lost
[06:21] <h3ax> a quickie, why wont my Keyboard change to "Nordic" settings where / is shift+7 and letters like    works ?
[06:21] <frank23> HAL: what are you trying to recompile with gcc 4?
[06:21] <salah> I didnotfindanything
[06:21] <rukuartic> How exactly does a RPM work?
[06:21] <salah> All I know I am using Broadcom 802.11 b/g WLAN in my laptop
[06:21] <elkbuntu> does anyone know if the limewire .rpm converts to .deb with alien fine and without any issues?
[06:21] <nickrud> iceman: try disabling the onboard video in the bios
[06:21] <AngryElf> nickrud, Dr_Willis it's all working now, thanx
[06:21] <IcemanV9> iceman: disable onboard video via BIOS
[06:21] <twitch101> debian=deb rpm=red hat i think its the same but just for a different linux
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Well this is odd.  My mom just e-mailed me some scans as .tif, and I can't open them.  I get errors in Gimp, ImageMagick, and gthumbview.  Something buggy there, don't know if it's on my end or hers.
[06:21] <HAL> frank23, that might be step 2 first thing im doing is getting the source so nvidia will install
[06:21] <jetscreamer> elkbuntu: let us know, you can be the first
[06:22] <twitch101> so could anyone help with my pastebin
[06:22] <EnsignRedshirt> cK-gLocK: It looks like there is a .deb at www.nero.com.  That would be easier than a .rpm.
[06:22] <elkbuntu> jetscreamer i doubt i'd be the first
[06:22] <jetscreamer> hal all you need are the headers to install the nvidia binary
[06:22] <cK-gLocK> really?
[06:22] <farous> salah: in a terminal type lspci then scroll to see which card you have
[06:22] <cK-gLocK> ok sure ill get that thanks alot guys
[06:22] <nickrud> tonyyarusso: try file <file> , see if they're actually tif's
[06:22] <cK-gLocK> any particular cmd to get that running? the .deb
[06:22] <iceman> nickrud cannot totaly turn it off, just able to tell bios to boot onboard or add on, but ubuntu see's the onboard no matter what at install
[06:22] <EnsignRedshirt> cK-gLocK: But it is just a trial version.
[06:23] <cK-gLocK> ill get a key
[06:23] <cK-gLocK> lol
[06:23] <h3ax> anybody .. setting Keyboard to "Nordic" Ie Danish so special Chars like  works..
[06:23] <IdleOne> cK-gLocK:  dpkg -i file,deb
[06:23] <cK-gLocK> nice
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Will do.  Back in a flash.
[06:23] <cK-gLocK> thanks alot man you guys own
[06:23] <salah> dcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[06:23] <cK-gLocK> making it easy for ppl to convert over to linux from windows
[06:23] <cK-gLocK> hah :)
[06:23] <salah> this is showing
[06:23] <rukuartic> cK-gLocK, thats what this chan's here for
[06:23] <HAL> jetscreamer, can I pm you?
[06:23] <cK-gLocK> rock on
[06:23] <h3ax> i have set it in the "control panel" it has no Effekt
[06:24] <h3ax> effect
[06:24] <h3ax> *
[06:24] <twitch101> can anyone help me with getting the framwork or something similar to work like in my pastebin
[06:24] <nickrud> iceman: could you paste the output of lspci on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:24] <farous> !tell salah about ndiswrapper
[06:24] <Chrustinho> how can i copy a svcd on linux? Anybody out there, knowing this? :(
[06:24] <frank23> HAL you're trying to install the latest nvidia drivers?
[06:24] <HAL> yes
[06:24] <farous> salah follow ubotu link i know this card is one of the most common and easiest to install
[06:24] <HAL> frank23, yes
[06:24] <anotherdm> gee i just found a cd label in marker as edubuntu32A  does hat A part make any sense to anyone
[06:24] <iceman> nickrud where the file located ?
[06:24] <IdleOne> farous:  he needs a hand hold
[06:24] <frank23> HAL http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:24] <salah> what is ndiswrapper
[06:24] <Mordof> question: how do i get rid of everything to do with wine?
[06:24] <twitch101> can someone help me with this "  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9484   "
[06:24] <nickrud> iceman: in a terminal, type lspci (it's a command 
[06:25] <salah> how can I install
[06:25] <Q_Continuum> HAL what video card do you have?  If you don't have a 7800, the ones in the current available packages work.
[06:25] <rukuartic> Mordof, how'd you install it? Apt-get or by hand?
[06:25] <Mordof> synaptic
[06:25] <rukuartic> Mordof, Should be able to go into synaptic and remove it by clicking the box and then selecting remove
[06:25] <IdleOne> salah:  whhat country are you from?
[06:25] <rukuartic> Mordof, or apt-get remove wine
[06:25] <frank23> HAL step 1 and 2 is very important if you installed the nvidia driver from the repository already
[06:25] <Mordof> yeah but there are stuff files left over
[06:25] <salah> canada
[06:25] <witless> how can i remove exif data from photos?
[06:25] <farous> salah first install ndisgtk will make your life easier. sudo aptitude install ndisgtk
[06:25] <HAL> Q_Continuum, 6600 x2(SLI)
[06:25] <anotherdm> gee i just found a cd label in marker as edubuntu32A  does hat A part make any sense to anyone
[06:26] <rukuartic> Mordof, Don't know if that'll get rid of everything... I know you've got a .wine folder under ~
[06:26] <h3ax> no one ?
[06:26] <frank23> HAL: the ones in the repos work fine too
[06:26] <Q_Continuum> HAL then the ones you get via synaptic or apt-get will work fine.
[06:26] <rukuartic> farous, does ndisgtk come on the ubuntu 5.10 disk?
[06:26] <farous> salah register if you are not registered so i can pm you
[06:26] <iceman> nickrud here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9485
[06:26] <HAL> frank23, how do I tell if it is already running
[06:26] <Q_Continuum> the ones in the repo will work.
[06:26] <farous> rukuartic: am not sure
[06:26] <rukuartic> farous, I'm guessing salah doesn't have net access...
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: "TIFF image data, little-endian"
[06:26] <rukuartic> farous, and as I remember, CD only comes with ndiswrapper
[06:26] <Q_Continuum> HAL: run "glxinfo | grep -i vendor" in a terminal and if they all say nvidia then you are running their driver
[06:26] <salah> this is my 2nd day
[06:26] <bimberi> ndisgtk isn't in main, so won't be on the CD
[06:26] <IdleOne> salah:  ubotu  sent you a link for ndiswrapper follow the intructions on that page
[06:26] <Mordof> rukuartic, yeah i deleted that, but i can still type "wine" and have it try to do stuff
[06:26] <salah> I don't know anything
[06:27] <Mordof> same with winecfg
[06:27] <iceman> it does know the nvidia card is there, but i cant run x if i enable it in bios ....
[06:27] <nickrud> tonyyarusso: heh, I was hoping they would come back bad ;(
[06:27] <IdleOne> salah:  you cannot learn if you dont try
[06:27] <jrsims> hey, what are the default color themes for vim?
[06:27] <farous> rukuartic: if he does not have net acess how could he be chatting now with us
[06:27] <HAL> Q_Continuum, cool it appears I'm chasing my tail for no apparent reason
[06:27] <jrsims> I know elflord - what else is there?
[06:27] <rukuartic> farous, windoze box?
[06:27] <rukuartic> farous, Thats what i did until I got wlan working
[06:27] <jbroome> farous: you just blew my mind
[06:27] <h3ax> guys i would realy like to get my keyboard Reconition/layout changed
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: That would make the problem more obvious.
[06:27] <h3ax> if any one has 5 min
[06:27] <salah> i install ndisgtk
[06:28] <salah> now what is next
[06:28] <rukuartic> Mordof, didja yank the packages with Synaptic?
[06:28] <salah> i don't know where is this link
[06:28] <sgt-dyke> Hello... everyone
[06:28] <h3ax> Hey there
[06:28] <Mordof> rukuartic, yeah
[06:28] <farous> salah do you have access ot the net from you linux box
[06:29] <iceman> it's a stupid dell, had to go to it, my AMD64 is dead for now ... seems i have a bad mobo on it ....
[06:29] <rukuartic> Mordof, Might be a little complicted... but you could try this
[06:29] <Mordof> rukuartic, nm, i installed it again and then did sudo apt-get --purge remove wine
[06:29] <salah> yah
[06:29] <Mordof> that worked
[06:29] <rukuartic> Mordof, ls -laR | grep wine > wineresults.txt
[06:29] <rukuartic> Mordof, Ah there ya go
[06:29] <farous> great
[06:29] <salah> Now I am using Cable internet
[06:29] <farous> !tell salah about register
[06:29] <rukuartic> Mordof, btw... that last command lists your entire hard drive, searches it for wine, and sends it to a text file
[06:29] <Mordof> k
[06:29] <farous> salah now register so i can pm you
[06:29] <h3ax> its pretty annoying not being able to write anything because standart Layout change works nadda just like wins layout change
[06:29] <iceman> wheres the xorg conf file located ?
[06:29] <sgt-dyke> there no root in ubuntu.....   but what can i do..... when then ask me for the root password ???
[06:30] <Mordof> rukuartic, however,... i still have problems installing wine 0.9.4
[06:30] <Mordof> rukuartic, http://pastebin.com/576156
[06:30] <salah> where I have to registar sir?
[06:30] <rukuartic> Mordof, Are you compiling from source?
[06:30] <Mordof> no, deb
[06:30] <rukuartic> Mordof, looking at link... one second
[06:30] <EnsignRedshirt> Iceman: /etc/X11/
[06:30] <IdleOne> salah:  type in this window /msgnickserv help
[06:30] <shukhrat> hello people !
[06:30] <IdleOne> salah:  type in this window /msg nickserv help
[06:30] <nickrud> iceman: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you should see a line BusID  ; change that to 1:4:0
[06:30] <Madpilot> sgt-dyke, you use your own user pw - Ubuntu uses sudo
[06:31] <Madpilot> !tell sgt-dyke about sudo
[06:31] <rukuartic> Mordof, Woah... thats out of my league!
[06:31] <iceman> nickrud thanks .. one sec ..
[06:31] <rukuartic> Mordof, My suggestion is, download and compile from source
[06:31] <sgt-dyke> thanx madpilot .... i was sure i tried it
[06:31] <salah> now what?
[06:31] <elkbuntu> jetscreamer doesnt seem any problems at the moment
[06:31] <frank23> rukuartic: compile what from source?
[06:31] <jetscreamer> ?
[06:31] <elkbuntu> jetscreamer yet to run it though... limewire
[06:31] <salah> REGISTER
[06:31] <rukuartic> frank23, wine... Mordof's looking for latest version
[06:32] <jetscreamer> ahh
[06:32] <Mordof> rukuartic, no im not..
[06:32] <salah> REGISTER salah
[06:32] <h3ax> ........
[06:32] <rukuartic> Mordof, Nvm :P
[06:32] <Mordof> 0.9.8 is latest
[06:32] <frank23> Mordof: there is a deb repo for the latest version. I use it. Ill give you the source line
[06:32] <rukuartic> salah, "/msg nickserv help"
[06:32] <Mordof> 0.9.4 runs my game
[06:32] <iceman> nickrud I am using a nvidia 5500 pci card ... that matter at all ?
[06:32] <jetscreamer> salah: /ns help register
[06:32] <elkbuntu> jetscreamer gah.. wants jre updates
[06:32] <jetscreamer> make-jpkg
[06:32] <Mordof> frank23, i dont want lastest version, latest version will not run warcraft 3
[06:32] <farous> !tell salah about register
[06:32] <nickrud> iceman: no, it shouldn't.
[06:33] <jetscreamer> get a .bin from sun or whereever and use make-jpkg to make a deb out of it
[06:33] <farous> salah do you read ubotu pms
[06:33] <Mordof> however, im fairly certain 0.9.4 is the version i had it running perfect on
[06:33] <rukuartic> frank23, Cedaga might work better for that?
[06:33] <iceman> nickrud thanks again but always safe to ask ;)
[06:33] <Mordof> nah it wont
[06:33] <shukhrat> dear all is it possible upgrade PHP, Apache and MySQL from terminal ?
[06:33] <Mordof> ive tried
[06:33] <radu_> hi, is there any way to switch between desktops by using the mouse wheel ? I liked that in xfce and I hope gnome supports it too...
[06:33] <rukuartic> Mordof, Should be able to download older versions anyways...
[06:33] <elkbuntu> jetscreamer, removing the current jre that i installed via apt, though, right?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> shukhrat,  apt-get update :P
[06:33] <Mordof> rukuartic, i have the deb for 0.9.4, i get that error though, so i dont know
[06:33] <jetscreamer> HAL: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:33] <nickrud> iceman: the only stupid question is the one you don't ask 
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> radu_,  kde and seveal other window managers can do that.. not sure if gnome can.
[06:34] <sgt-dyke> ... there is no stupid question
[06:34] <sgt-dyke> only stupid people
[06:34] <nickrud> radu_: put the mouse over the window switcher in the lower right corner, and scroll
[06:34] <jetscreamer> elkbuntu: oh you have some... then i don't know. probably though. you have 1.4 and it wants 1.5? java is weird, i know nothing.
[06:34] <shukhrat> Dr_Willis Thanks
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> stupid people that ask stupid questions. :P
[06:34] <elkbuntu> it wants 1.4
[06:34] <EnsignRedshirt> sgt-dyke: (Ha! You read my mind.)
[06:34] <iceman> nickrun ok before that is shows the onboard graphics, do i need to change thos enteries ?
[06:35] <elkbuntu> jetscreamer, but i didnt install the 'real' java iirc
[06:35] <h3ax> !sourcelist
[06:35] <ubotu> h3ax: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:35] <rukuartic> Mordof, Try redownloading from here? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6241&package_id=174803
[06:35] <radu_> nickrud, that's nice... but still, I would have liked to be able to do that by putting the mouse anywhere on the desktop and scroll...
[06:35] <jetscreamer> elkbuntu: i dimly seem to remember having many/>1 installs of java, but that was long ago in windows
[06:35] <jetscreamer> no idea
[06:35] <jetscreamer> !tell h3ax -about sources
[06:35] <wastrel> what is this:  
[06:35] <Mordof> rukuartic, haha, yeah.. i just looked at my deb file.. its only 5mb, my dl got cut off
[06:36] <nickrud> iceman: change driver to nv , and leave Identifier alone; it's referenced int the screen section further down.
[06:36] <sgt-dyke> YUP YUP... gonna go see what the hell i can do with.... this explotation system...   Tell me if you have great idea where i should start
[06:36] <jetscreamer> h3ax: there's a link to a list generator on ubuntu.com
[06:36] <HAL> Q_Continuum, frank23, jetscreamer - Thanks for your Help guys appears I already have the driver installed correctly nows its on to installing cedega
[06:36] <h3ax> Thx coulden remeber the link jetscreamer
[06:36] <radu_> ...and to be able to move windows across desktops...
[06:36] <rukuartic> Mordof, That could be a problem :O
[06:36] <Mantice> Can some one help me im trying to install DebootstrapChroot
[06:36] <nickrud> iceman: how about pasting the xorg.conf as well, let me look at it before you use it
[06:36] <Klick_> hey all, whenever i try to modprobe ipw2200 i get this error, anyone know what i need to do to fix it
[06:36] <Klick_> ipw2200: Unknown symbol hostap_init_ap_proc
[06:36] <Klick_> ipw2200: Unknown symbol hostap_is_sta_ofdm
[06:37] <shukhrat> any russian here ?
[06:37] <jetscreamer> a better compile
[06:37] <Madpilot> !ru
[06:37] <rukuartic> Mordof, You know about md5sums and stuff?
[06:37] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[06:37] <AWWskeetskeet> hrh
[06:37] <jetscreamer> !ru
[06:37] <farous> Mantice: i followed the howto and it just worked
[06:37] <jetscreamer> gah
[06:37] <Mordof> rukuartic, i know ABOUT them.. i dont know how to use them per say
[06:37] <salah> please helpme
[06:37] <shukhrat> do u have russian room here &
[06:37] <shukhrat> ?
[06:37] <rukuartic> Mordof, md5sum file I think... lemme check
[06:37] <jetscreamer> #ubuntu-ru
[06:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone here use to use audacity?
[06:38] <rukuartic> Mordof, yeah thats it
[06:38] <Mantice> I paste this in the GLI sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd]  [--arch i386]  breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and i get the messageE: No such script: breezy
[06:38] <Mantice> 
[06:38] <iceman> nickrun heres the file with the changes so far ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9486
[06:38] <jetscreamer> #ubuntu-ru shukhrat
[06:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to translate a sound sample along the time?
[06:38] <sgt-dyke> i dooing... a update for my sys... and... they ask me to put a cd on my drive.... what the hell
[06:38] <twitch101> where can i download this libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 its not in the repos
[06:38] <jetscreamer> sgt-dyke: remove the cd line in /etc/apt/sources.list and do apt-get update
[06:38] <rukuartic> twitch101, search google?
[06:38] <Mordof> rukuartic, winehq doesnt have an md5 on it for me to match...
[06:38] <elkbuntu> ok this is weird.. it seems i do have the sun-jr2e1.5 but running limewire bitches for me to 'upgrade' to 1.4
[06:38] <twitch101> i did and i couldnt find anything
[06:38] <farous> Mantice: sorry man was looking for the link but seem i lost it
[06:38] <rukuartic> Mordof,  Arg...
[06:38] <jetscreamer> twitch101: try apt-cache search cairo
[06:38] <Mantice> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[06:38] <shukhrat> thanks
[06:38] <twitch101> ok
[06:38] <jetscreamer> see also man dpkg
[06:38] <farous> Mantice: exactly
[06:38] <rukuartic> Mordof, They usually have it for the newer ones
[06:38] <elkbuntu> ooooh, now it works...
[06:39] <jetscreamer> \o/
[06:39] <elkbuntu> what the hell...
[06:39] <sgt-dyke> yeah remove the cd line in... blalab...   im a newbie... dont know how to do that
[06:39] <frank23> Mordof: yeah I think you're right the latest wine doesnt run Warcraft 3
[06:39] <rukuartic> Right! Its friggen late!
[06:39] <rukuartic> sgt-dyke, Open up Synaptic and use that to help ya ;)
[06:39] <iceman> nickrud ... so for this to work, shutdown reboot ... bios ... turn on nvidia card ... and boot to ubuntu ... ?
[06:39] <jetscreamer> sgt-dyke: edit /etc/apt/sources.list ... you don't know how to use a text-editor? any editor?
[06:39] <Mordof> (>'')>   /o/
[06:39] <nickrud> Mantice: I haven't ever done that, but I'm sure the brackets are wrong
[06:39] <CyberMad> how to upgrade the installed packaged? right now i use FreeRADIUS v1.0.1 and i would like upgrade it to v1.1.0
[06:39] <jetscreamer> apt-get install mc if you need
[06:39] <sgt-dyke> first time in linux... dude
[06:39] <Mantice> How did you do it then?
[06:40] <rukuartic> sgt-dyke, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:40] <jetscreamer> mc-edit is cool
[06:40] <jetscreamer> mc is cool
[06:40] <Madpilot> sgt-dyke, which instructions are you following?
[06:40] <nickrud> iceman: yes. I'd like to see the xorg first though, just for fun
[06:40] <Mordof> frank23, yeah i tried.. it crashed halfway through loading and left me at a 320x240 desktop res :P
[06:40] <iceman> nickrud  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9486
[06:40] <jetscreamer> gedit is cool too
[06:40] <frank23> Mordof: me too I just tried
[06:40] <sgt-dyke> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list this one
[06:40] <salah> -NIckServ- REGISTER
[06:40] <jetscreamer> \o/
[06:41] <Madpilot> sgt-dyke, type that in a terminal
[06:41] <Mordof> frank23, i know for a fact 0.9.4 runs it perfect doing: wine war3.exe -opengl
[06:41] <jetscreamer> salah: prefix with /
[06:41] <farous> salah it is /msg nickserv register
[06:41] <nickrud> iceman: looks good
[06:41] <jetscreamer> /ns register name password iirc
[06:41] <sgt-dyke> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release Candidate i386 (20051005)] /   that the line i should delete
[06:41] <jetscreamer> yes
[06:41] <Mordof> no!
[06:41] <Mordof> dont delete!
[06:41] <Mordof> comment it out
[06:41] <pomalley> Hey... has anybody been successful with ubuntu and an ATI video card? (Specifically, an x1300) I've tried a bunch of different drivers, etc., without knowing a whole lot about what i'm doing, and now i have 3 different kernels and no GUI... haha
[06:41] <Mordof> sgt-dyke, dont delete stuff like that ever
[06:41] <Madpilot> sgt-dyke, add a # in front of that line
[06:42] <iceman> nickrud ... thanks .. so logoff, boot .. bios ... enable nvidia in bios ... boot to ubuntu ... correct ...
[06:42] <sgt-dyke> haha... okay...
[06:42] <jetscreamer> Mordof: worng, it won't work if you enable it w/o using apt-setup or something...
[06:42] <sgt-dyke> im learning.... folks
[06:42] <jetscreamer> try
[06:42] <Madpilot> !tell pomalley about ati
[06:42] <anotherdm> ok im installing the 32bit bersion on my amd64 and the partitioner is asking me to erase entire disk or erase entire disk and use LVM
[06:42] <jetscreamer> it has to read/verify the cd again
[06:42] <anotherdm> is the first one useing reiserfs
[06:42] <nickrud> iceman: yup. Oh, and say whatever prayer you think is appropriate
[06:42] <eirina> jggg
[06:42] <eirina> yyy
[06:42] <salah> I registerd Now what
[06:42] <iceman> nickrud ... to true ... ;)
[06:42] <pomalley> Madpilot: I already tried all that... no beans
[06:42] <anotherdm> and if I go with LVM will I be able to mount and read these other drives with reiserfs
[06:42] <jetscreamer> salah: /ns identify password
[06:43] <iceman> nickrud thanks again ...
[06:43] <bimberi> anotherdm: no, ext3
[06:43] <Mordof> jetscreamer, huh? i mean if sgt-dyke deletes the line entirely, and needs it back later, hes screwed.. but if its commented out, then its out of the way but still available
[06:43] <farous> salah now you need to identify :)
[06:43] <anotherdm> hm
[06:43] <jetscreamer> Mordof: if you uncomment the line it won't work
[06:43] <salah>  /ns identify salah
[06:43] <bimberi> anotherdm: no idea wrt your 2nd Q
[06:43] <Mordof> i know
[06:43] <Mordof> i said comment it
[06:43] <jetscreamer> Mordof: you have to use the cd setup
[06:43] <farous> salah: /msg nickserv identify <passwd> do it in a server window
[06:43] <jetscreamer> comment is fine
[06:43] <anotherdm> oh man I want to be sure I can mount these other drives
[06:43] <jetscreamer> but try uncommenting it
[06:43] <Mordof> jetscreamer, what i said was comment the line, not delete it
[06:44] <sgt-dyke> yup yup... i like to be screwed... but thanx guy its work really fine...
[06:44] <Mordof> i know what uncommenting it does, i honestly dont know where you got that from...
[06:44] <sgt-dyke> now how did i update the core....
[06:44] <anotherdm> any way seems like LVM is new does it actually behave
[06:44] <h3ax> so
[06:44] <jetscreamer> have you personally tried uncommenting the cd line and doing apt-get update?
[06:44] <anotherdm> can you actually restore files that were accidentally rm -f importantfile
[06:44] <h3ax> anybody able to help me out getting my dear Ubuntu to change to "Danish" setup
[06:44] <Mordof> jetscreamer, yes, it works fine with a cd in the drive.
[06:44] <salah> where is serverwindow
[06:45] <jetscreamer> wierd
[06:45] <jetscreamer> but ok i'm wurng
[06:45] <farous> salah type /msg nickserv
[06:45] <bimberi> anotherdm: your choice of what you format this drive will not affect whether linux can mount other drives.  Should be no issues mounting reiserfs
[06:45] <Mordof> if a cd is not present, its not mounted.. which gives an error afaik
[06:45] <_daniel_> Hey if everytime I run sudo I get a timestamp errorm and I also can use sudo -K what do I do ?
[06:45] <farous> then in the new window type identify <passwd>
[06:45] <anotherdm> ok how bout running fsck on the said reiserfs or ext3 drives ?
[06:46] <anotherdm> to repair file system errors
[06:46] <salah> now ?
[06:46] <anotherdm> hopefully there not physical errors
[06:46] <h3ax> what is it the Default path to Source.list is .. meh forgot lul
[06:46] <farous> salah i sent you a pm did you get it
[06:46] <jetscreamer> salah: if you do it right it will tell you if you have any memos and stuff
[06:46] <jetscreamer> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:47] <h3ax> thx jetscreamer.. as ussual ya the one =)
[06:47] <bimberi> anotherdm: i've not worked with reiser, others may know.  yes fsck runs on ext3
[06:47] <iceman> nickrud worked so far... no do i need to install the nvidia drivers ?
[06:47] <farous> slah try typing /msg farous hi
[06:47] <iceman> !nvidia
[06:47] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[06:47] <anotherdm> actually I am wanting to have a physical integrity scan on this HD before installing to it. can i do that from the installer iso?
[06:48] <nickrud> iceman yeah. The simple way is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:48] <thelsdj> how can i disable bash completion? it tends to screw me more than it helps me, i'd rather tab just give me all files that match the name all of the time rather than try to guess which ones i want
[06:48] <bimberi> anotherdm: no, you can usually get a utility from the drive manufacturer's website to do that
[06:48] <iceman> nickrud already there .... thanks
[06:48] <odat> j
[06:48] <odat> hi everyone
[06:48] <salah> i can read u
[06:48] <salah> but now no ans?
[06:48] <farous> salah am afraid i got to go now too late here already hope someone else can help you :) good luck
[06:48] <odat> how do you use debconf in synaptic
[06:48] <anotherdm> good nvidia link thanks
[06:49] <Mordof> frank23, ok, i think its 0.9.6 that runs it fine
[06:49] <farous> salah just type in the window whatever you want to say
[06:49] <Kyral> odat: you mean like reconfiguring?
[06:49] <Mordof> 0.9.4 keeps crashing
[06:49] <bubba_> anotherdm, knoppix is better for stuff like that... it boots from cd, and has lots of tools for you...
[06:49] <nickrud> thelsdj: in ~/.bashrc, comment out the last three lines (add a # to the beginning of the line)
[06:49] <odat> Kyral, no like getting rid of orphaned dependcies
[06:49] <frank23> Mordof: I don't know. I just use cedega instead of wine for games
[06:49] <Kyral> odat: use DebOrphan
[06:49] <anotherdm> hhhhmmmm western digital 80 gig
[06:50] <Mordof> frank23, cedega wont run any of my other games, and the only one it does run, wine does it better.. so cedega is useless for me
[06:50] <elkbuntu> jetscreamer limewire works basically, not quite as smoothly as the windows version though
[06:50] <jetscreamer> thelsdj: in ~/.bash_profile i think, if not try to locate bash_completion, /etc i think
[06:50] <odat> Kyral, isn't there something in synaptic that does it?
[06:50] <Kyral> odat: not that I know of. Then again I don't use Synaptic
[06:51] <jetscreamer> yay
[06:52] <ZeZu> i have one unlabeled ubuntu disc, how can i  tell which disc it is ?
[06:52] <eob84> does anyone know what would cause the menu to update?
[06:52] <jetscreamer> check the .html file in it's / ?
[06:52] <ZeZu> i'm thinking its disc1
[06:52] <jetscreamer> update-menus ?
[06:52] <Kyral> eob84: this is a bad thing?
[06:52] <nickrud> thelsdj: after reading jetscreamer it may be in /etc/bash.bashrc, /etc/profile as well.
[06:52] <Kyral> ZeZu: there is only one disc
[06:52] <Mordof> ZeZu, disc1? theres only 1
[06:52] <ZeZu> seriously?
[06:52] <Mordof> lol
[06:52] <ZeZu> thanks ;)
[06:52] <Kyral> ZeZu: Install disc that is
[06:52] <eob84> Kyral, well is is anoying
[06:52] <ZeZu> i remembered there being two
[06:52] <ZeZu> guess i remembe wrong
[06:53] <bimberi> b0rg: ask in here, i think i'm correct in saying that most of us prefer that to PM - answers can be vetted and others (lurkers :) ) can benefit from them too
[06:53] <sandyeggoboy> good evening everyone, i have a small problem ... whenever i delete stuff from my desktop it keeps coming back .. what should I do ?
[06:53] <Mordof> ZeZu, not for breezy, though there is also a live cd.. which is different
[06:53] <Kyral> eob84: why is the Menu updating annoying?
[06:53] <ZeZu> thanks, time to install and pray the new ati driver fixes the problems i'd been having
[06:53] <eob84> Kyral, I would rather not need to type things command line to get them to run... I mean... if the manager doesn't do it's job.. then why use it?
[06:53] <Kyral> eob84: Add Applications will
[06:54] <linux_user400354> i need to get one of these http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop.14580695
[06:54] <ZeZu> i have my doubts, but one can hope he ?
[06:54] <eob84> Kyral, it used to do it automatically
[06:54] <fangorious> anyone still looking for mouse thumb button support should look here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=775811&postcount=94
[06:54] <Kyral> eob84: Synaptic or Gnome-App-Install?
[06:54] <fangorious> that finally got it working for me in dapper
[06:54] <jetscreamer> is that like a 5 button explorer?
[06:54] <eob84> Synaptic
[06:54] <salah> I have Broadcom 802.11 b/g WLAN . How can I setup
[06:54] <Mordof> frank23, yup, 0.9.6 is the good version that runs warcraft 3 perfect
[06:54] <Kyral> eob84: try the Add Applications program
[06:54] <iceman> ok, is there a way to enable higher resolutions higher than 1024 x 768 ....
[06:55] <Kyral> !fixres
[06:55] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:55] <Jivenix> forwarding X over ssh is freakin sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!
[06:55] <bubba_> salah, your in for fun :)
[06:55] <Jivenix> oops, minus two e's
[06:55] <salah> no
[06:55] <jetscreamer> yes by configuring xorg.conf properly
[06:55] <Kyral> Jivenix: amen to that
[06:55] <ZeZu> bbiab
[06:55] <salah> no one is helping me man
[06:55] <Jivenix> ;)
[06:55] <odat> Kyral, seems like i could break my system easy with that
[06:55] <salah> I am tring to solve
[06:55] <Jivenix> salah, broadcom is the suxor
[06:55] <jetscreamer> salah: what do you need help with
[06:55] <salah> but still same
[06:55] <Jivenix> i have a broadcom too
[06:55] <Jivenix> no can do
[06:55] <jetscreamer> ahh no idea
[06:55] <Jivenix> dell truemobile 1370 to be exact
[06:56] <Mordof> WLAN is a bitch on linux
[06:56] <bubba_> salah, you need to be more specific...
[06:56] <Jivenix> i've tried every driver known to mankind
[06:56] <jetscreamer> salah maybe ndiswrapper
[06:56] <Kyral> odat: you can't, its just another glorified Frontend to the true power that is Apt-get
[06:56] <nickrud> iceman: now you're into fixing video resolutions 
[06:56] <nickrud> !fixres
[06:56] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:56] <Seyekoh> Looking for help -- audio problems, nForce2 chipset (ASUS A7N8X Deluxe built in 6CH Realtek) absolutely no audio...
[06:56] <Jivenix> !broadcom
[06:56] <ubotu> hmm... broadcom is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 for a guide to setting up Broadcom network cards
[06:56] <georgescu> hi al
[06:56] <Jivenix> !tell salah about broadcom
[06:56] <odat> Kyral, so it only list safe dependencies to remove?
[06:56] <babo> Guys is there some reason that my crontab is in the tmp directory and won't run ?
[06:57] <Jivenix> salah, use that article to try to get your broadcom working with a windows driver using ndiswrapper
[06:57] <Jivenix> but good luck, no garauntee's some people get it working others dont
[06:57] <Jivenix> i for one have not been able to get my broadcom to work under linux
[06:57] <Kyral> odat: whoa I got mixed up
[06:57] <linux_user400354> Jivenix, vnc is sweet too have you tried it?
[06:57] <georgescu> haw can i setup my printer in network?
[06:57] <Kyral> odat: I thought I was still talking to eob84  lol
[06:57] <Jivenix> yeah, vnc is bad graphics
[06:57] <kkm> hey all i was here a wahile ago you guys were helping me with my internet connection I had The interface etho is active and also etho on enable but still could conneted to the net with linux
[06:57] <odat> lol
[06:57] <fangorious> i need help with a nautilus error, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=775811&postcount=94
[06:58] <Kyral> odat: I use DebOrphan monthly
[06:58] <bubba_> salah, in my case, i had to build the most current ndiswrapper, and remove the ubuntu ones i installed, and i had to have acpi working too.
[06:58] <pomalley> question: I now have 3 kernels on startup 2.6.12.10-686, 686-smp, and .9-386. how did this happen, which should I use, and how can i get rid of them?
[06:58] <Kyral> it goes like "package foo is keeping etc etc etc installed <choices>"
[06:58] <iceman> in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg for a 256 mb video card ... i enter memory as 256000 ?
[06:58] <Madpilot> fangorious, that doesn't look like the right post - no error & nothing about Nautilus
[06:58] <odat> Kyral, can it really get to the point where its a problem?
[06:58] <iceman> or 256000000
[06:59] <nickrud> iceman: 256*1024
[06:59] <Kyral> odat: not if you READ!
[06:59] <dburger> what do I have to install to get make?
[06:59] <Jivenix> make should alredy be installed
[06:59] <salah> How can I use ndiswrapper
[06:59] <fangorious> oops, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137439
[06:59] <anotherdm> what is this Logical Volume Manager for ?  RAID or just similar to dos extended partitions
[06:59] <Jivenix> salah, read the article
[06:59] <Kyral> dburger: build-essential
[06:59] <Jivenix> !tell salah about ndiswrapper
[06:59] <dburger> not on this ubuntu Jivenix, which surprised the hell out of me.
[06:59] <Jivenix> dburger install the essential-dev
[07:00] <Jivenix> !essential-dev
[07:00] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jivenix
[07:00] <Jivenix> hmm
[07:00] <Jivenix> !dev-essential
[07:00] <ubotu> Jivenix: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:00] <Kyral> Jivenix: its build-essential
[07:00] <Jivenix> oh yeah
[07:00] <Jivenix> there you go
[07:00] <iceman> nickrud should i enable framebuffer ?
[07:00] <nickrud> iceman: no
[07:00] <fangorious> Madpilot: any idea?
[07:00] <neoginn> i am a NEWBIE!!!!!!!
[07:01] <bubba_> salah, read about ndiswrapper on sourceforge...  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[07:01] <fangorious> neoginn: you'll grow out of it
[07:01] <kkm> hey all i was here a wahile ago you guys were helping me with my internet connection I had The interface etho is active and also etho on enable but still could conneted to the net with linux
[07:01] <kkm> I am using the live CD
[07:01] <cK-gLocK> anyone know the issue with mouse in gaming for instance in q4 if i wanna rj my fire is mouse1 and jump is mouse2 when i hit them both at once it doesnt respond at all can the linux mouse system not take more than 2 button inputs at once?
[07:01] <fangorious> kkm: you using dhcp or static?
[07:01] <bubba_> salah, if you use breezy, it ships with an old version of ndiswrapper that wont work :(
[07:02] <kkm> fangorious: what is that ?
[07:02] <Agrajag> cK-gLocK: if you hit them both at once, you're middle-clicking
[07:02] <cK-gLocK> really? is there any way todisable that?
[07:02] <cK-gLocK> middle clikcing
[07:02] <fangorious> kkm, how did you configure eth0?
[07:02] <cK-gLocK> knew something was wrong
[07:02] <neoginn> did you just make that term up?
[07:02] <Agrajag> cK-gLocK: then how would you paste?
[07:02] <cK-gLocK> oh shit
[07:02] <salah> actually i m very new
[07:02] <cK-gLocK> well i gotta jump first then shoot
[07:02] <salah> I am lost
[07:03] <pomalley> grr... the ati driver installer i downloaded (twice, now) has bad checksums. ???
[07:03] <cK-gLocK> ican usually rj higher if i jump+fire
[07:03] <neoginn> Umbutu rocks!
[07:03] <cK-gLocK> lol
[07:03] <kkm> fangorious: on connection I clicked the enable etho box
[07:03] <neoginn> if only i could spell it now
[07:03] <bubba_> salah, take a deep breath....
[07:03] <bubba_> salah, and hold it.
[07:03] <fangorious> kkm, in that same window does Configuration say "Static IP address" or "DHCP"?
[07:03] <cK-gLocK> so theres no way to prevent middle clicking from ruining my rjing?
[07:03] <cK-gLocK> lol
[07:04] <kkm> fangorious: I am not sure - you see i take down notes and reboot the live CD each time
[07:04] <matthew_w> Hey, is Toma- still here?
[07:05] <fangorious> kkm: ah. you have this machine connected directly to a cable/dsl modem? or is there a home gateway involved?
[07:05] <photonx> hi guys, i have an NTFS partition i accidently changed the id type to hfs+. I was wondering if i used the convert feature in gparted, it would be able to convert the id back to ntfs
[07:05] <photonx> can anyone help me out?
[07:05] <Mantice> Where can I find the Americas army 64 bit linux download
[07:05] <iceman> nickrud thanks again ... all worked well .... many many thanks ..
[07:05] <nickrud> iceman: np
[07:05] <neoginn> can anyone tell me if it worth even writing a program for ubuntu in C++?
[07:05] <matthew_w> Doesn't look like it.  Alright here's the situation, I have a guitar plugged into my amp, which is plugged into my computer.  For some reason I can't record the sounds my guitar is making.  This is a big problem for me because I did this on M$ constantly.
[07:05] <matthew_w> neoginn; that's a philosophical question, isn't it?>
[07:05] <fangorious> neoginn: that's entirely up to you
[07:05] <Mantice> !Americas army
[07:06] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mantice
[07:06] <kkm> fangorious: yes i have it connected to a modem
[07:06] <bubba_> photonx, i know how from the command line, but i havnt used gpartd.... fdisk works though.
[07:06] <anotherdm> !LVM
[07:06] <ubotu> lvm is, like, totally, (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[07:06] <fangorious> kkm: directly, with nothing in between, cable goes straight to the cable/dsl device?
[07:06] <neoginn> well i mean, shoot i am looking at the code and everything is either python or C.
[07:07] <Jenkins> hey guys, i need some help.
[07:07] <fangorious> neoginn: there should be C++ gnome bindings available. you can also use kubuntu, where everything is mostly c++
[07:07] <T0ky> anyone here using airsnort on an atheros chipset?
[07:07] <kkm> fangorious: the ethernet goes directly to the modem
[07:07] <matthew_w> neoginn; C isn't too too much different. If you know C++ you have a good headstart.
[07:07] <fangorious> kkm: ok, are you familiar with Windows network configuration?
[07:08] <Jenkins> i need some help with drivers for a linksys wireless USB network adapter.
[07:08] <salah> can I release my breath now?
[07:08] <kkm> fangorious: Unfortunantly no.
[07:08] <salah> lol
[07:08] <neoginn> All programming languages look the same to me now.
[07:08] <matthew_w> So, any explanation as to why the guitar won't work?
[07:08] <sgt-dyke> baon... what r we dooing now all update done
[07:08] <fangorious> kkm: ok, something along the lines of (for xp) start->control panel->network connections
[07:09] <bubba_> salah, heh
[07:09] <matthew_w> fangorious; sudo network-admin
[07:09] <fangorious> kkm: right-click on the Local Area Network and go to properties
[07:09] <neoginn> oh god, please no more XP.
[07:09] <Jenkins> hey, luci
[07:09] <Jenkins> i'm lost.
[07:09] <salah> Sorry man . I am really lost
[07:09] <neoginn> well so long
[07:09] <neoginn> byebye
[07:09] <salah> New user ...
[07:09] <neoginn> salah you will get the hang of chatting here
[07:09] <neoginn> just start talking
[07:09] <fangorious> matthew_w: I know, I'm trying to help kkm find the working network settings in windows, so I can tell him how to configure the same settings in ubuntu. :)
[07:09] <wastrel> in flashplayer in mozilla the sound isn't sync'ed with the video - any way to fix this?
[07:10] <bubba_> well... are you using i386 or amd64 ?
[07:10] <MrPockets> if i receave a file from xIRC, where does it download to?
[07:10] <Jenkins> i need help finding drivers for a WUSB54GS USB network adapter
[07:10] <matthew_w> fangorious; oh!  Sorry, it sounded like a question.
[07:10] <matthew_w> lol
[07:10] <Jenkins> help would be appreciated.
[07:10] <kkm> fangorious: Ok i am there
[07:10] <matthew_w> Could it be something to do with the sound daemon I am/am not using?
[07:11] <myki> I have problem with polish fonts. I changed locales to pl and I have such error: http://pastebin.com/576186
[07:11] <Mantice> Any one played Enmey teratory?
[07:11] <fangorious> kkm: find the TCP/IP settings in the list, and then there will be a button like Properties
[07:11] <MrPockets> Mantice, yeah
[07:11] <iceman> now to find a url to get america's army ... without a stupid signup ..
[07:11] <bubba_> salah,  well... are you using i386 or amd64 ?
[07:11] <Mantice> Mine crashes, Are you runing 64 bit?
[07:11] <Jenkins> anyone know any drivers that can help me run a USB wireless access point?
[07:11] <Jenkins> for ubuntu?
[07:12] <odat> anyone know how to get mplayer to open when you insert a vcd  like totem opens when you insert one
[07:12] <frank_> Jenkins: did you look in the ubuntuforums? I would start there
[07:12] <Jenkins> okay, thanks.
[07:13] <sh0u> where is the kernel source located?
[07:13] <iceman> to cool, got a server for linux americas army 2.50 ... full... with no stupid log in ...
[07:13] <odat> anyone know how to get mplayer to open when you insert a vcd  like totem opens when you insert one
[07:14] <nickrud> odat: system-preferences-removable drives, multimedia tab
[07:14] <fangorious> kkm: you find it?
[07:14] <odat> nickrud, no no not a dvd a video cd
[07:15] <nickrud> odat: ah. then, no. (I must, I must, I must improve my reading)
[07:15] <Mordof> frank_, ok, i think i was talking to you earlier.. 0.9.6 worked but had troubles settings options, so i think its 0.9.7 :P
[07:15] <Mantice> Any one run games with DebootstrapChroot
[07:15] <iceman> God, so much stuff i need to reinstall ;(
[07:16] <heatxsink> hello all, any chance that the bluez patch will be patched against the 2.6.15 kernel?
[07:16] <n0dl> does anyone know whre the source is located?
[07:16] <heatxsink> for ubuntu?
[07:16] <frank_> Mordof: I don't really know which wine works
[07:16] <n0dl> yes for ubuntu
[07:16] <heatxsink> n0dl:
[07:16] <heatxsink> n0dl:  ?
[07:16] <Mordof> im just letting you know progress, lol. just incase you are ever needing to know
[07:16] <frank_> Mordof: ok thanks
[07:17] <iceman> whats the command to update the sorces list repos ?
[07:18] <Mordof> frank_, hmmm.. i may have some xorg.conf issues.. as its not setting the resolution right from 16 bit to 32 bit, it keeps crashing
[07:18] <wastrel> iceman:  you mean add repos to the sources list?
[07:19] <fangorious> kkm: you still there?
[07:19] <iceman> wastrel theres a command line that update the repo locations ...
[07:20] <heatxsink> HELLO?
[07:20] <fangorious> HI
[07:20] <wastrel> iceman:  you mean apt-get update?
[07:20] <mikebot> okay, i had to format and reinstall ubuntu, hah
[07:21] <iceman> that was it
[07:21] <heatxsink> Anyone in here know if the latest bluez patch (2.6.15-mh2.gz  http://www.bluez.org/redirect.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.holtmann.org%2Flinux%2Fkernel%2Fpatch-2.6.15-mh2.gz) for the linux kernel is going to be patched against 2.6.15?
[07:21] <anotherdm> ok got rid of LVM by starting the isntall over
[07:21] <shukhrat> dear ubuntu users ! i'am new in lunix ! please explain me how install mysql ? is it possible install online this database ?
[07:22] <anotherdm> imageine repartion your drives on the fly that what we all need
[07:22] <pomalley> alright, folks, after futzing around for all too long, i found that the ATI x1300 (and all the x1k line) do not have linux support. anybody know anything to the contrary?
[07:22] <iceman> shoot i cannot find streamtuner ?
[07:23] <mikebot> is there a way to import my bookmarks from my firefox on my windows?
[07:23] <mikebot> to the firefox on ubuntu?
[07:23] <binarydigit> copy the bookmarks.html file
[07:23] <binarydigit> in your profile
[07:23] <pomalley> and that means that i essentially can't use ubuntu with this card... :(
[07:23] <wastrel> !info mysql
[07:23] <T0ky> anyone here using airsnort on an atheros chipset?
[07:23] <lakcaj> shukhrat, System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[07:24] <shukhrat> how install mysql ...........
[07:24] <matthew_w> Okay so I've tried everything I can possibly think of to get my guitar working on here.  I've verified that the cable is OK, and that the plug converter is OK, and it STILL won't allow me to record sounds from my guitar, what is going on?  Sound is confusing!
[07:24] <shukhrat> i tryed not working
[07:24] <binarydigit> shukhrat: what part isnt working
[07:24] <binarydigit> shukhrat: and what did you try
[07:24] <kestas> ubuntu crashed for the first time yesterday
[07:25] <fangorious> matthew_w: maybe you suck and your computer just has distinguished tastes ...
[07:25] <fangorious> :p
[07:25] <matthew_w> fangorious: Always the way it is
[07:25] <wastrel> ubotu tell shukhrat about universe
[07:25] <mikebot> binarydigit: thanks
[07:25] <wastrel> shukhrat:  add the universe repository
[07:25] <fangorious> so I actually have a gstreamer error, not a nautilus error
[07:26] <shukhrat> binarydigit it says not lib.
[07:26] <binarydigit> shukhrat: when you do what, did you search mysql and try to install, did you get this when trying to open synaptic?
[07:26] <binarydigit> a lil more info would go a long way
[07:28] <wastrel> yup
[07:29] <overrider> can someone tell me where i can get the font "verdana" on ubuntu?
[07:29] <mikebot> how can i looka t files on my windows partition?
[07:29] <fangorious> yay! gstreamer problem resolved, just had to remove my ~/.gstreamer0.10 folder
[07:30] <iceman> cool i got streamtuner installed ...
[07:30] <wastrel> overrider:  have you installed msttcorefonts?
[07:30] <fpalm> overrider, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:30] <djsolaris_ubuntu> hey how can i play mp3's?
[07:30] <ardchoille> is there a way to test and see if a .deb will install before actually doing the install?
[07:30] <shukhrat> binatydigit i mark mysql in synaptic and it says "Could not mark all packages for installation" "the following packages have unresolvable dependencies"
[07:31] <fpalm> overrider, with multiverse repositories activated
[07:32] <mikebot> anyone know?
[07:32] <travis_> Good morning
[07:32] <binarydigit> mikebot: mount the partition
[07:32] <wastrel> ubotu tell djsolaris_ubuntu about mp3
[07:32] <shukhrat> binatydigit i mark mysql in synaptic and it says "Could not mark all packages for installation" "the following packages have unresolvable dependencies"
[07:32] <travis_> I just got the ubuntu installed and now I am wondering where I should start
[07:32] <binarydigit> shukhrat: not sure
[07:33] <wastrel> shukhrat:  you probably need to enable multiverse also
[07:33] <wastrel> ubotu:  tell travis about mp3
[07:33] <matthew_w> I've tried using my amp and plugging it into the computer via the amp into the line-in.  But that's not doing anything.. is there something I need to install for this to work?
[07:33] <wastrel> travis_:  go to that site and get all your mp3 and video codecs and java and stuff
[07:33] <jerrod> dumb question: what rmdir option will delete a non-empty directory?
[07:34] <wastrel> travis_:  then learn how to use synaptic and check out all the cool software available for ubuntu
[07:34] <travis_> ok what is the URL
[07:34] <travis_> Thx
[07:34] <mikebot> wastrel: what site should he go to for all that? :)
[07:34] <shukhrat> binarydigit ???
[07:34] <wastrel> jerrod:  rm -r   be careful with it - there's no undo
[07:34] <jerrod> thanx
[07:34] <wastrel> mikebot:  the bot sent him a /msg
[07:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mmmmm
[07:35] <mikebot> !tell mikebot mp3
[07:35] <mikebot> argh
[07:35] <mikebot> !mp3
[07:35] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:35] <travis_> Ok, that is a good starting place
[07:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> a website has for registration AIM address as required field.. i don't have AIM and i don't want it.. could you tell me what's the format of an AIM ID?
[07:35] <mikebot> travis_: do you know how i can browse my windows ntfs files right now?
[07:35] <mikebot> wastrel: *
[07:36] <mikebot> wastrel: it says i don't have access
[07:36] <travis_> No, I wish I did because I have a NAS
[07:36] <wastrel> Tallia1Kubuntu:  any alphanumeric string, starting with an alpha char.  don't know min/max chars
[07:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[07:36] <b0rg__> will ubuntu run on a older system? say a p3 700mhz with 386ram.
[07:36] <travis_> This is as far as I have gottten  - http://ulinux.blogspot.com/
[07:36] <wastrel> mikebot:  access to what?
[07:36] <overrider> fpalm, i uncommented all server in my /etc/apt/sources.list, however an apt-get msttcorefonts still yields no results. how to acticvate multiverse repositories otherwise?
[07:37] <anotherdm> grub loading please wait error 22          uhm what do i do next?
[07:37] <mikebot> wastrel: my ntfs partition..i know it's read only, but iw ant to see the files
[07:37] <travis_> I am running on a PII 350 Mhz 256 MB of RAM
[07:37] <wastrel> b0rg__:  should be fine - gnome will be a bit slow...  a lighter windowmanager would help that
[07:37] <jerrod> thanx wastrel (you see, thats why linux users kick a$$. they arent stuck up about their knowledge)
[07:37] <mickskyvitch> b0rg I have it on a 533mhz pIII with 256
[07:37] <wastrel> mikebot:  i don't know anything about ntfs - don't use windows
[07:38] <travis_> Ubuntu is running fine for me, although browsing is a bit slow
[07:38] <mikebot> wastrel: well do you know how i can check who has access to checking things on other partitions?
[07:38] <wastrel> !ff1.5
[07:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:38] <wastrel> travis_:  ^^^^
[07:38] <travis_> Yep
[07:38] <wastrel> mikebot:  how are you mounting the drive?
[07:38] <mikebot> wastrel: i don't know anything about mounting
[07:39] <wastrel> mikebot:  if you use sudo can you view the files?
[07:39] <mikebot> also, if anyone knows if there is an included font with logical operators, please let me know
[07:39] <mikebot> wastrel: i don't know what sudo is, just installed this 20 minutes ago
[07:39] <wastrel> !sudo
[07:39] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:39] <travis_> So are you trying to read NTFS files with ubuntu?
[07:40] <wastrel> it's a command that gives you root privileges
[07:40] <wastrel> root is like administrator in windows
[07:40] <mikebot> okay
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> I have a bug with saving conversations from Gaim in HTML format; who/where do I bring it to?
[07:41] <djsolaris_ubuntu> how do i log in with root?
[07:41] <wastrel> !bugs
[07:41] <wastrel> !root
[07:41] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:41] <wastrel> !bug
[07:41] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[07:41] <myki> I have problem with polish fonts. I changed locales to pl and I have such error: http://pastebin.com/576186
[07:42] <mikebot> wait, but how can i view the files? i don't have administrative rights
[07:42] <travis_> Has anyone tried printing to a network printer on a windows network
[07:43] <wastrel> travis_:  that's possible but requires setting up samba, which i've never done... :] 
[07:43] <wastrel> ubotu tell travis about samba
[07:44] <fr500> hmmm has anyone tried pptpd on breezy, worked fine on hoary but on breezy same setup is not really working
[07:44] <travis_> Ok something I will look into and post thank you
[07:45] <mikebot> wastrel: it says i don't have the permissions necessary, but i'm the only user
[07:45] <overrider> hmm i cant seem to get to msttcorefonts , how can i enable multiverse? i already uncommented all things in /etc/apt/sources...
[07:46] <wastrel> mikebot:  did you read about sudo?  it can give you admin rights.  you need to be able to use sudo before troubleshooting drive permissions
[07:46] <wastrel> overrider:  did you apt-get update  after uncommenting?
[07:47] <mikebot> wastrel: okay, i'll read it
[07:48] <intelikey> still trying to fix sshd      as soon as you auth. it exits.    anyone can help ?
[07:48] <travis_> Hey I have to run wastrel, thx a bunch. I am a Windows guy, but I like what I see so far. Great stable OS
[07:48] <wastrel> gl trav
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Should I be submitting it as an Ubuntu bug though, or a Gaim one?
[07:48] <mikebot> wastrel: i don't understand, so i just edit a file?
[07:49] <wastrel> intelikey:  anything useful in /var/log/auth.log
[07:49] <intelikey> ssh helpers  [07:49] <intelikey> wastrel nothing there.  no logs.
[07:49] <jerrod> !realplayer
[07:49] <ubotu> I guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:49] <mikebot> !nvidia
[07:49] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:50] <intelikey> wastrel i have tried with -vvvv for the debugging output  if you'd like to look at that i can paste it.
[07:50] <intelikey> !paste
[07:50] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:50] <Jivenix> realplayer is a hassle to set up
[07:51] <wastrel> mikebot:  ok you need to mount your nt drive as user, so you need to edit your "drive mapping" to tell it to let any user access the drive - this mapping is done in  /etc/fstab
[07:51] <overrider> wastrel, yes i did, and it also download a few things
[07:51] <pepsi> hi there
[07:52] <mikebot> wastrel: i'm sorry i don't really understand much of that, can i PM you?
[07:52] <wastrel> intelikey:  won't mean much to me.
[07:52] <wastrel> mikebot:  no.
[07:52] <salah> How can we make voice chat here?
[07:52] <mikebot> okay
[07:52] <pepsi> i seem to be having a problem with the window focus.. sometimes the first click inside a window goes unnoticed, but not always
[07:52] <wastrel> mikebot:  you need to edit /etc/fstab
[07:52] <pepsi> any ideas?
[07:53] <mikebot> wastrel: i don't know how tog et to that file
[07:53] <salah> Hello
[07:53] <wastrel> intelikey:  did you install the ssh package?  it Just Works for me.
[07:53] <salah> Is anybody know how can we do voice chat in Ubantu
[07:53] <overrider> wastrel, is this what i had to add to my sources? deb http://si.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse  ?
[07:54] <wastrel> mikebot:  cp /etc/fstab . ; gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:54] <mikebot> wastrel: just type that in terminal?
[07:54] <wastrel> overrider:  you can just add "universe multiverse" to the end of your existing breezy deb http... lines
[07:55] <mikebot> wastrel: cp /etc/fstab
[07:55] <mikebot> cp: missing destination file
[07:55] <wastrel> mikebot:  you left off the dot
[07:55] <salah> Is anybody know how can we do voice chat in Ubantu by MSN and yahoo
[07:55] <intelikey> wastrel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9495
[07:55] <mikebot> oh
[07:55] <mikebot> wastrel: that entire line then?
[07:56] <mikebot> wastrel: (gedit:32422): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[07:56] <mikebot> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[07:56] <salah> ds
[07:57] <matthew_w> I think I'm going to put a bullet in my skull if I don't figure this out, lol.
[07:57] <intelikey>                ssh helpers  [07:57] <wastrel> mikebot:  you using gksudo?
[07:58] <wastrel> sry intelikey no idea
[07:58] <mikebot> wastrel: i'm not sure
[07:58] <wastrel> did you type gksudo ?
[07:58] <mikebot> i pasted this
[07:58] <mikebot> cp /etc/fstab . ; gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:58] <mikebot> in one line
[08:00] <wastrel> mikebot:  meh i should have tested it...  try  sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:00] <matthew_w> I know it's a software issue that this is not working because I had it recording properly before I switched over to Ubuntu, so there must be some way to make this function.
[08:01] <mikebot> wastrel: a file opened
[08:01] <intelikey>                ssh helpers  [08:01] <mikebot> wastrel: all the mount points are either '/' or '/media/<something>'
[08:01] <wastrel> mikebot:  one of the lines should reference your ntfs drive
[08:02] <mikebot> wastrel: yes, i see it
[08:02] <mikebot> wastrel: hda1
[08:02] <wastrel> mikebot:  what does it say under <options>
[08:02] <_daniel_> Hey what repo has acrobat reader
[08:02] <mikebot> wastrel: 'defaults'
[08:02] <_daniel_> I enabled all including multiverse
[08:03] <_daniel_> Still cant find it
[08:03] <athlon> hi, a guy in ubuntu-de wants to help his friend who has AOL account to get to the net
[08:03] <intelikey> daniel don't like xpdf ?
[08:03] <athlon> how does one setup aol dhcp in ubuntu ? ive used static ip for such a long time, I dont know jack about dhcp
[08:03] <matthew_w> _daniel_   use evince, or xpdf
[08:03] <wastrel> _daniel_:  acroread package name
[08:03] <matthew_w> Anyway, yeah, I think there's something wrong with my sound daemon, then.
[08:03] <_daniel_> No I want acroread
[08:04] <_daniel_> I know the package name
[08:04] <intelikey> !info acroread
[08:04] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[08:04] <wastrel> _daniel_:  it's in multiverse- did you update?
[08:04] <wastrel> mikebot:  you need to change defaults to something else - not sure what, sec
[08:05] <intelikey>                ssh helpers  [08:05] <_daniel_> yes apt-get list is up to date
[08:05] <mikebot> wastrel: okay, thanks
[08:05] <_daniel_> I uncommented all repositories
[08:05] <_daniel_> and updated apt-get
[08:06] <eli> hello everyone, anyone experiencing problems with dapper and rgb.txt?
[08:06] <wastrel> mikebot:  ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[08:06] <_daniel_> Is banshee broken in breezy ?
[08:06] <mikebot> wastrel: just type that in the terminal? can i close this file?
[08:06] <eli> !dapper
[08:06] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[08:06] <wastrel> mikebot:  btw it's all explained here i just discovered https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?action=show&redirect=AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:06] <matthew_w> _daniel_ try removing the country codes in the URL's in /etc/apt/sources.list   for example instead of ca.archives.ubuntu.com  redo it so it's just archives.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <wastrel> mikebot:  replace 'defaults'  on the line for your ntfs drive with ro,auto,...etc etc
[08:07] <N1K> Morgen, und zwar. Mein Kumpel hat AOL und will per Live-DVD (Knoppix 3.9 oder Ubuntu 5.10) ins Netz gehen. Unter Knoppix erkennt er sein Modem nicht, und unter Ubuntu wei er nicht, wo er die Verbindung konfigurieren soll.
[08:07] <Mabus07> what program on ubunut can open .7z files?
[08:07] <mikebot> wastrel: ah, okay
[08:08] <wastrel> !de
[08:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:08] <N1K> Which Program in Ubuntu Live 5.10 can set the settings for the internet?
[08:08] <_daniel_> Ha I got bored and downloaded the acroread.deb
[08:08] <fr500> Mabus06, i didnt found one once i needed
[08:08] <_daniel_> So my banshee default breezy install is broken
[08:08] <_daniel_> any bugs ?
[08:08] <wastrel> N1K:  system > administration > networking
[08:09] <N1K> wastrel, i didn't have DSL.
[08:09] <wastrel> n1k modem?
[08:09] <N1K> wastrel, jep
[08:09] <mikebot> wastrel:  i still get You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda1".
[08:09] <wastrel> N1K:  gnome-ppp i think, i haven't used modem in ubuntu
[08:10] <N1K> wastrel, ok
[08:10] <N1K> thank you
[08:10] <N1K> ;)
[08:10] <wastrel> mikebot:  you have to unmount & remount the drive.   sudo umount /dev/<your ntfs drive>
[08:10] <mikebot> wastrel: and when i type "sudo mount -a" it shows me nothing
[08:10] <mikebot> wastrel: oh okay
[08:10] <zidanerick> hey you guys prob get this alot, but i have to ask, im an old windows boi and if i was to install ubuntu whats the chances of me keeping it? ive tried suse, mandrake etc...
[08:11] <wastrel> zidanerick:  you can try the livecd without installing
[08:11] <wastrel> mikebot:  then sudo mount  the drive
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> zidanerick: I came from Windows, after a few weeks of Ubuntu I left the Windows alone alltogether.  Try the Live CD and see for yourself.
[08:11] <mikebot> wastrel: sudo: unmount: command not found
[08:11] <intelikey>       help me with sshd   test at 63.157.242.201 as guest (passwd x)   debug output at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9495    anybody ?
[08:11] <wastrel> mikebot:  umount
[08:11] <intelikey> zidanerick not a chance.
[08:11] <zidanerick> okies tony, the only problem i got is gaming
[08:11] <mikebot> wastrel: oh sorry
[08:12] <damian_> ./vst/AEffect.h:111: error: syntax error before long
[08:12] <damian_> ../vst/AEffect.h:205: error: syntax error before } token
[08:12] <damian_> that means i have the wront version header files correct/
[08:12] <drip6> does anyone know how to repair/restore RGB database?
[08:12] <damian_> RGB database?
[08:13] <salah> can we do voice chat in ubuntu?
[08:13] <drip6> yeah I cant change font colors in teminal
[08:13] <N1K> ;)
[08:13] <wastrel> salah:  gnomemeeting i think, or install teamspeak
[08:13] <mikebot> wastrel: thank you very very much
[08:13] <intelikey> zidanerick not at all.  i don't even have x on here.
[08:13] <_daniel_> Can anyone run banshee ?
[08:13] <_daniel_> from breezy ?
[08:14] <damian_> salah yes i believe amsn can
[08:14] <wastrel> mikebot:  yw, hope you enjoy getting to know ubuntu
[08:14] <salah> where from I can get amsn?
[08:14] <zidanerick> intelikey: well thats the only problem holding me back is my gaming
[08:15] <damian_> salah nope it only does webcam sorry
[08:15] <mikebot> wastrel: actually, i have another question for you, if you don't mind
[08:15] <mikebot> wastrel: heh
[08:15] <damian_> ./vst/AEffect.h:111: error: syntax error before long
[08:15] <wastrel> k
[08:15] <damian_> ../vst/AEffect.h:205: error: syntax error before } token
[08:15] <_0331_USMC> How do you format a USB flash drive?
[08:15] <damian_> that means i have the wront version header files correct/
[08:15] <_0331_USMC> I want it to work in windows and linux
[08:15] <salah> actually iam using gaim ...yahoo and msn
[08:15] <mikebot> wastrel: well right now it wont run at anything more than 1024x..., but i like running at 1280x1024
[08:15] <salah> so is it possible to use vaoice chat here
[08:15] <mikebot> wastrel: and last time i tried to do the nvidia thing, i had tof ormat and reinstall ubuntu
[08:16] <intelikey>       help me with sshd   test at 63.157.242.201 as guest (passwd x)   debug output at  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9495    anybody ?  *whines*
[08:16] <mikebot> wastrel: actually, i'll dela with that later, this is fin for now
[08:16] <wastrel> mikebot:  that's because you don't know enough about linux to follow the howto :]   read the nvidia howto and learn anything you don't understand
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: heh okay
[08:17] <intelikey> if i keep posting that will someone finally help or am i just SOL
[08:17] <mikebot> !nvidia
[08:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: that first one?
[08:17] <damian_> salah i believe "Skype, Ver. 1.0, Win/LINUX/Mac" is what your after
[08:17] <wastrel> mikebot:  if your card is supported by the driver they talk about in the first one ;] 
[08:17] <MeeK> can someone help me get firefox installed in ubuntu 5.10
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: oh and is there a way to view files not in a list or as icons, but the way between, i forget what it's called, but windows has it
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: like a list, but it scrolls to the right
[08:17] <slipk> anyone knows the linux to the ubuntu repositories?
[08:18] <athlon> intelikey, is name:guest passwd:x correct ?
[08:18] <wastrel> mikebot:  i've got ati myself, no idea about nvidia.    (re icons:  dunno)
[08:18] <damian_> salah http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/
[08:18] <intelikey> athlon yes
[08:18] <wastrel> ah right skype
[08:18] <mikebot> wastrel: this is the guide i used, and it messed up my display
[08:18] <fr500> hi
[08:18] <mikebot> wastrel: i think it worked fine til i tried to edit the file to remove the spalshscreen
[08:19] <salah> thanks
[08:19] <intelikey> athlon but it exits as soon as you authenticate.    that's what i need help fixing.
[08:19] <athlon> intelikey, yes thats what happened. did  you give a valid shell to the guest account
[08:19] <intelikey> athlon i've also tried as other users.  same thing.
[08:19] <wastrel> mikebot:  you could have fixed that probably - back up important files before editing them. ;] 
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> mikebot: I know what you mean, but don't know how to do it.  Maybe check with nautilus channels/mailing list?
[08:19] <intelikey> localhost login: guest
[08:19] <intelikey> Password:
[08:19] <intelikey> [guest$localhost.~] 
[08:20] <mikebot> wastrel: no, but when i messed it up, i could only use the terminal command prompt, and i have no idea what i'm doing, as you know
[08:20] <intelikey> athlon that was with password=x  ^
[08:20] <salah> so who has only yahoo account he can't use voice chat in linux. is it?
[08:20] <athlon> intelikey, then I suppose you should check your sshd_config
[08:21] <intelikey> athlon yes i have been through it several times.... i don't see a thing wrong with it but i may be missing something.   would you like to look ?
[08:21] <athlon> sure
[08:21] <wastrel> intelikey:  did you make changes to your ssh config?
[08:22] <mikebot> tonyyarusso: thanks
[08:22] <athlon> just paste it somewhere so everybody here can take a look
[08:23] <intelikey> no  not that i remember athlon  but that should not affect your connection should it ?   only my attempt to ssh guest@localhost   should be affected by ssh_config    or am i all wet ?
[08:23] <intelikey> wastrel ^
[08:23] <_0331_USMC> How do I get my usb flash drive to work?  It doesn't show up under /dev/sda
[08:24] <damian_> shouldnt usb be plug and play
[08:24] <damian_> shouldnt ubuntu automatically mount it?
[08:24] <_0331_USMC> I thought so
[08:24] <Jivenix> when the splashscreen is shown, how do i change the BG color
[08:24] <_0331_USMC> even restarted to try it out starting while plugged in
[08:24] <athlon> intelikey, do you have a firewall between your box and the net ? though I suppose it would have to be configured to drop a very specific packet and not simply block port 22
[08:25] <intelikey>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9506   sshd_config
[08:25] <intelikey> auth00 yes i'm running iptables  would you like to see the rules ?
[08:26] <damian_> hmm dunno...
[08:26] <cafuego> !rule 1
[08:26] <ubotu> Rule number one: Don't fix it if it isn't broken!
[08:26] <intelikey> 22 is suposed to be open
[08:26] <myki> is there any diference between en_GB and en_US locale?
[08:26] <wastrel> intelikey:  the guest user exists on the system?
[08:26] <salah> How Can I listen Online songs?
[08:27] <intelikey> wastrel see above ^  where i pasted the login of guest
[08:27] <Jivenix> my wifi card is clashing with eth0
[08:27] <Jivenix> calling itself eth0_clas
[08:27] <Jivenix> how can i get it to be called wlan0
[08:27] <mikebot> i'm going to go to sleep
[08:27] <Jivenix> or something more appropriate
[08:27] <mikebot> wastrel: thanks a lot again for the help
[08:27] <intelikey> wastrel errr yes in short.
[08:27] <mikebot> night
[08:27] <Jivenix> night
[08:27] <wastrel> intelikey:  what shell does the guest user have in /etc/passwd
[08:27] <salah> SOme website has songs so if we want we can just click on in XP but here it's not working
[08:28] <Jivenix> !tell salah about restricted formats
[08:28] <intelikey> i havent looked but the only shell on the system is bash
[08:28] <wastrel> intelikey:  grep guest /etc/passwd
[08:28] <myki> is there any diference between en_GB and en_US locale?
[08:28] <b1ind> For some reason, firefox leads to 100% cpu usage when I try and use xcompmgr (w/o any effects)
[08:29] <mojo> I was wondering if anyone could recommend a simple system backup solution for home using dvd-r and dvd-rw media?  pref. one with a gui but that is not mandatory.
[08:29] <salah> even MSN news is not runnig here
[08:29] <intelikey> wastrel ok but you are missing the point.   it's using bash.
[08:29] <intelikey> guest:x:1001:1001::/home/guest:/bin/bash
[08:29] <Jivenix> !tell salah about mplayer
[08:29] <wastrel> intelikey:  just checking - if it's /bin/false or something you'd get that behavior
[08:30] <mojo> myki: great britian and the united states have differences, like theater, theatre, color, colour, etc.
[08:30] <intelikey> but i also couldn't login locally wastrel
[08:30] <mojo> humph
[08:30] <mojo> missed 'em
[08:30] <athlon> intelikey, maybe increase your loglevel then get someone to try ssh in again and then check your authlog
[08:31] <b1ind> Even mplayer uses less cpu than firefox :o
[08:31] <intelikey> athlon you mean install a logger....    i really hoped i wouldn't have to do that.....
[08:31] <Jivenix> whats going on intelikey
[08:32] <athlon> intelikey, no in sshd_config, change the value in LogLevel
[08:32] <intelikey> athlon if you think it will help me fix this thing, i'll install a logger.   which will it need?  syslogd ?
[08:32] <athlon> intelikey, not a logger
[08:33] <intelikey> athlon NO.... there is no logging.      NO LOGS  on this system.
[08:33] <intelikey> so i will have to install a logger for that to affect anything.
[08:33] <Jivenix> what are you trying to do
[08:33] <athlon> makes it way harder to debug stuff does it not
[08:34] <intelikey> tty1 [root#~]  ls /var/log/
[08:34] <intelikey> apache2  news
[08:34] <intelikey> and those are empty dirs.
[08:34] <intelikey> Jivenix get sshd to work
[08:34] <Jivenix> it works
[08:34] <Jivenix> i just ssh'd into you
[08:35] <intelikey> you are not on this system
[08:35] <Jivenix> received your key
[08:35] <Jivenix> i dont have a login
[08:35] <Mabus07> how do I find out what sort of chipset my wireless device uses without a gui?
[08:35] <intelikey> guest   pass=x
[08:35] <Jivenix> but i was able to receive your key and get prompted for auth
[08:35] <Jivenix> hold
[08:36] <Jivenix> connection closed
[08:36] <Jivenix> type dmesg | tail
[08:36] <GreyFox503> I don't have wireless, but you might try good ole   'lspci'
[08:37] <intelikey> and look for what Jivenix ?
[08:37] <Jivenix> any message indicating a failure in the sshd socket
[08:37] <intelikey> nothing
[08:38] <Jivenix> user guest is configured to allow ssh connections?
[08:38] <intelikey> all except root are  if i understand the question Jivenix
[08:39] <Jivenix> can you ssh to localhost with your own login
[08:39] <intelikey> no same thing local or remote
[08:39] <Jivenix> you get the 'connection closed' ?
[08:39] <intelikey> yep
[08:39] <intelikey> all users
[08:39] <Jivenix> you have loglevel set to quiet
[08:39] <Jivenix> set it to verbose
[08:40] <intelikey> Jivenix ok  and restart sshd ?
[08:40] <Jivenix> why not
[08:41] <Jivenix> i'll ssh into you again
[08:41] <athlon> gmrmklasd, I told you the same thing and you said you dont want to have a log :-(
[08:41] <athlon> *thwap intelikey* :-)
[08:41] <GullyFoyle> i installed jre1.5 bla bla bla with java-package and all that but i can't find it now so i can link the plugin to the firefox plugin directory. sounds silly i know but i've looked in /usr, /usr/local, /usr/share etc...
[08:41] <intelikey> go for it.
[08:42] <intelikey> auth00 i know..... just humour me here.   there is no log file.
[08:42] <Jivenix> dmesg | tail
[08:43] <intelikey> looks exactly like before.
[08:43] <intelikey> last line "Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c02f0500(lo)"
[08:43] <intelikey> hasnt changed sense boot time.
[08:44] <Jivenix> sudo apt-get remove sshd
[08:44] <Jivenix> sudo apt-get install sshd
[08:44] <Jivenix> ;)
[08:45] <intelikey> are you talking reinstall ?    why not purge it ?
[08:45] <Jivenix> yeah reinstall it
[08:45] <Wolfensteijn> can you start the ubuntu install from the livecd?
[08:45] <gmoney> I'm running version 4.? of ubuntu - is it easy to upgrade to the latest version (5.10?) or should I reinstall?
[08:45] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[08:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to dapper remember it may break Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[08:45] <Madpilot> gmoney, ^^^
[08:46] <Madpilot> gmoney, but if you're still running 4.10, you'll want to do that in two stages, from 4.10 -> 5.04, then to 5.10
[08:46] <gmoney> Madpilot - thanks
[08:46] <artisteriq> hi there!
[08:47] <Jivenix> could be you have a nologin set
[08:47] <Jivenix> authentication goes through fine, i send my environment info then you reset the connection
[08:47] <XaeroVincent> I just customized my Gnome desktop... I think it's quite an improvement over the default
[08:47] <Jivenix> lets see a screeny
[08:47] <Madpilot> gmoney, easy way to check which version of Ubuntu you've got: open a terminal & type 'lsb_release -a' (with no quotes)
[08:47] <XaeroVincent> http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2180/screenshot9dt.png
[08:47] <mojo> Question: I have a volume knob on my kbd and 2 snd devices.  i have system sounds coming out of one and media out the other.  the knob twiddles the sys sounds, i want to change it to futz with the media volume instead.  ideas?
[08:48] <mojo> oh yeah, ubuntu breezy
[08:48] <Jivenix> its osX
[08:48] <Madpilot> XaeroVincent, looks like OSX
[08:48] <Jivenix> ;)
[08:48] <intelikey> Jivenix ready.
[08:48] <XaeroVincent> not bad for first try ;)
[08:48] <Jivenix> yup
[08:49] <Jivenix> guest all lowercase?
[08:49] <Jivenix> pass is x lowercase?
[08:49] <ailean> hey guys, i'm trying to follow instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gtk1Fonts. just wanted to check where those files were supposed to go. i think the ~ is supposed to mean something . . . ?
[08:50] <beena> how to login to yahoo chat using gaim
[08:50] <ailean> do you have gaim installed beena?
[08:50] <intelikey> Jivenix well that fixed it back to a broken state.....
[08:50] <mojo> beena you set the protocol that the account uses to yahoo when u create it
[08:50] <beena> ailean: yes
[08:50] <Madpilot> ailean, ~ means home dir
[08:50] <Jivenix> oh?
[08:50] <ailean> go into accounts
[08:50] <ailean> thanks Madpilot
[08:50] <Madpilot> np
[08:51] <beena> mojo: i created yahoo in gaim. but i need to chat in a public room in yahoo
[08:51] <intelikey> now it hangs at the password prompt....   and i'm not sure what i did to the config to fix that eariler....    hehheh
[08:51] <Jivenix> lol yeah
[08:51] <Jivenix> i see that
[08:51] <Jivenix> wth
[08:51] <intelikey> that is just one step backwards
[08:52] <Jivenix> ssh in with -v switch
[08:52] <intelikey> ok.  let me kill it first.
[08:52] <beena> any idea?
[08:52] <mojo> beena: oh, i never do that, sry.  um, u know the name of the chatroom you can "join a chat..." in the menu on the buddy list, or ctrl-c, to start a new chat and type in the room name methinks
[08:53] <intelikey> Jivenix last line before the hang     debug1: Sending environment.
[08:53] <Jivenix> yup
[08:53] <mojo> there is also a way to get the room list on the tools menu, same window
[08:54] <anotherdm> ok after installing 5 times it has worked and im logged in to the box. However when I goto My Computer it does not list the other 2 HDs, how can I setup mounting them
[08:55] <wastrel> !ntfs
[08:55] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[08:55] <anotherdm> how about automount reiserfs partitions
[08:55] <XaeroVincent> i hear the latest kernel has experimental support for writting to NTFS partitions
[08:55] <XaeroVincent> ?
[08:55] <anotherdm> !reiserfs
[08:55] <ubotu> somebody said reiserfs was a journalling file system - In benchmarks it seems to be faster then other default file systems.
[08:56] <intelikey> Jivenix retry
[08:56] <Kurt```> NTFS write support has been experimental for a long time
[08:56] <anotherdm> hmmmmm
[08:56] <XaeroVincent> *.*
[08:56] <stoned> !dapper
[08:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[08:56] <XaeroVincent> hmm
[08:56] <Jivenix> same, connection closed
[08:57] <Jivenix> debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8
[08:57] <Jivenix> debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0 rtype exit-status reply 0
[08:57] <Jivenix> debug1: channel 0: free: client-session, nchannels 1
[08:57] <Jivenix> Connection to 63.157.242.201 closed.
[08:57] <Jivenix> oops
[08:57] <Jivenix> bugger
[08:57] <anotherdm> any suggestion for accessing these 2 reiserfs ddrives
[08:57] <zcat[1] > I wonder if I should try it again
[08:57] <Kurt```> anotherdm: mount them?
[08:58] <wastrel> actually anotherdm that is a general automount howto, windows is included but also linux fs's
[08:58] <intelikey> it's the UseLogin no
[08:58] <ufo> Jivenix: my dapper flight-4 works great, it gets better and better
[08:58] <anotherdm> well with what info
[08:58] <intelikey> line that is hanging it.
[08:58] <Kurt```> /dev/hda3       /               reiserfs notail          0       1
[08:58] <intelikey> i comment that out and it does not hang.
[08:58] <anotherdm> damn one of them has an fstab on it but
[08:58] <Kurt```> that's the line in my fstab for my main reiserfs partition
[08:58] <zcat[1] > is there a dapper trial ISO or do I just apt-get dist-upgrade again?
[08:59] <anotherdm> hm
[08:59] <Jivenix> we're right at the point where you should give up the banner
[08:59] <anotherdm> that could do it
[08:59] <anotherdm> oh not quite
[08:59] <anotherdm>  the fstab is not a shell command syntax
[08:59] <zcat[1] > ahh, I see.. 'flight 4' is the cd
[08:59] <Jivenix> debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8
[08:59] <Jivenix> debug1: client_input_channel_req: channel 0 rtype exit-status reply 0
[08:59] <Jivenix> debug1: channel 0: free: client-session, nchannels 1
[08:59] <Jivenix> Connection to 63.157.242.201 closed.
[08:59] <Evodawg> What the command to read file size usage???
[08:59] <Jivenix> ooh crap!
[08:59] <Jivenix> i hate this laptop, sorry bout that
[08:59] <Kurt```> anotherdm: then "man mount", you'll have to add it to fstab if you want it mounted on boot
[09:00] <sgt-dyke> can you tell... me wtf r u dooing
[09:00] <Jivenix> i need a hotkey to flush my clipboard, i'm dangerous with that thing
[09:00] <johnk> evodawg: do you mean du or df?
[09:00] <anotherdm> doesnt gnome have some drive manager or partitioner
[09:00] <Jivenix> intelikey, have you read the manpage on sshd
[09:00] <Jivenix> the section: Login Process
[09:00] <Evodawg> johnk  think du
[09:01] <Evodawg> I'll try it
[09:01] <intelikey> not fully.  but i did scan it some.  and read on points that i thought might be an issue.
[09:01] <johnk> anotherdm: under the menu System->Administration
[09:02] <Jivenix> intelikey,
[09:02] <johnk> anotherdm: however, mine isn't working (broken backend script of some kind)
[09:02] <Jivenix> start sshd with the -r switch
[09:02] <intelikey> hey..   oh  ok
[09:02] <Wolfensteijn> hrm, this is weird...
[09:02] <Wolfensteijn> started the setup from dvd
[09:02] <intelikey> not from the init script then ?
[09:02] <Jivenix> yeah
[09:02] <Jivenix> scratch the -r
[09:03] <Jivenix> do this:
[09:03] <Wolfensteijn> got seemingly succesfull to the part where it wants to install the base system
[09:03] <Jivenix> kill sshd
[09:03] <Wolfensteijn> and then it tells me it can't find any sources...
[09:03] <needhelp> for some reason my firefox always opens to the University of Arizonas website
[09:03] <Rob_Dude> Hi all
[09:03] <needhelp> its not my homepage
[09:03] <Jivenix> then start it from the terminal with just sshd
[09:03] <needhelp> and I have cleared cache cookies etc
[09:03] <Jivenix> RobDude from dalnet?
[09:03] <needhelp> but it will not do anything but open U of A
[09:03] <intelikey> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[09:03] <Jivenix> burn it and reinstall it
[09:04] <Jivenix> dont start it with the script
[09:04] <Rob_Dude> Jivenix:  Yeah, that's probably me.  I used to hang out there a whole lot
[09:04] <Jivenix> after reinstalling it with apt-get, do a ps -A | grep ssh
[09:04] <Jivenix> iirc apt-get will launch the daemon automatically with default config
[09:04] <Rob_Dude> Jivenix:  From C#?
[09:04] <Jivenix> yeah
[09:05] <Jivenix> or #csharp now, heh
[09:05] <Jivenix> since i've earned myself a lifetime ban
[09:05] <Rob_Dude> Haha ;)  Eh, these things happen
[09:05] <Jivenix> cest la vie ;)  good to see you though
[09:05] <Rob_Dude> I haven't really been in there much myself.  I graduated and got a job....and that really kills my happy fun internet time
[09:06] <Rob_Dude> Yeah - small world :)
[09:06] <kkm> I cant connect to the bet can anyone help me ??
[09:06] <Jivenix> congrats, where you working these days?
[09:06] <intelikey> Jivenix you want me to reinstall sshd again ?   fro what purpose ?    the only file that has been touched sense the last reinstall is /etc/ssh/sshd_config  and that is only the two lines i mentioned ^ up there  ?
[09:07] <Rob_Dude> Allstate ('You're in good hands' - ha).  It's not exactly exciting work though; I've got an interview on Friday though for a consulting position...so I'm hoping that goes well
[09:07] <Jivenix> intelikey, becuase its easy to do
[09:07] <intelikey> lol
[09:07] <Jivenix> ;)
[09:07] <guillem101> how can I get rid of the splash screen at boot? (I prefer the "old style")
[09:07] <Evodawg> what can I delete in my /tmp directory?   anything or nothing?
[09:07] <intelikey> you know it's cachd .debs   don't you ?
[09:08] <guillem101> Evodawg, your files obnly
[09:08] <Evodawg> files no directories
[09:08] <Jivenix> guillem101, system > preferences > splash screen
[09:08] <guillem101> Evodawg, the "special" thing is that anyone an create files at /tmp/ and the file still belongs to the user who created it
[09:09] <Evodawg> so if their root and locked don't touch them!!!
[09:09] <guillem101> Evodawg, basically
[09:09] <mole_> Hi all.  I'm looking for an ubuntu package for mediawiki 1.5 series.  Version 1.4.10 lives in universe which works fine.  Any suggestions on how to best avoid a compile from source?
[09:10] <intelikey> ok at your request Jivenix, i have re-done a "tty1 [root#~]  urpme openssh-server && urpmi openssh-server "   now what ?
[09:10] <Jivenix> ps -A | grep sshd
[09:10] <mole_> FWIW I need the user management features on 1.5
[09:10] <mojo> Question: I have a volume knob on my kbd and 2 snd devices.  i have system sounds coming out of one and media out the other.  the knob twiddles the sys sounds, i want to change it to futz with the media volume instead.  ideas?
[09:10] <intelikey> it will be the last process so grep is wasted...
[09:10] <intelikey> but ok
[09:11] <guillem101> Jivenix, I've not such an entry :-( however I'm not talking about gnome splash screen but the "graphical splash screen" during booting
[09:11] <Jivenix> oh
[09:11] <Jivenix> yeah the new one sucks eh
[09:11] <Jivenix> when you figure it out, let me know
[09:11] <intelikey>  2409 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[09:11] <intelikey> now what ?
[09:11] <Jivenix> now hang tight
[09:11] <Evodawg> guillem101: my /tmp dir has gotten really large and I'm in need of getting rid of some files
[09:12] <intelikey> and you are hung again.......
[09:12] <intelikey> :)
[09:12] <kkm> I cant connected to the net can anyone help me ?all of the options are set properly i have interface etho active and device etho enable
[09:12] <Jivenix> blah you're screwed intelikey
[09:12] <Evodawg> 4 GB large and thats ridiculous
[09:12] <Jivenix> :\
[09:13] <intelikey> lol
[09:13] <intelikey> now lets see if we can fix it.......
[09:13] <Jivenix> there's a lot of stuff on google about it
[09:13] <Jivenix> but nobody's got a consistent answer
[09:14] <intelikey> i looked there till i got tired of reading web pages  nothing that looked like my issue.
[09:14] <cafuego> I'll give you a consistent answer.
[09:14] <kkm> I cant connected to the net can anyone help me ?all of the options are set properly i have interface etho active and device etho enable
[09:14] <intelikey> go for it cafuego   :)
[09:14] <cafuego> 42
[09:14] <intelikey> what's that ?
[09:15] <intelikey> cafuego ?
[09:15] <Jivenix> the answer to life
[09:15] <nm> not just life
[09:15] <Jivenix> the answer to the ultimate question
[09:15] <nm> life, the universe and everything
[09:15] <DeepThought> durn, owned
[09:15] <Madpilot> intelikey, how can you NOT know what 42 means?
[09:16] <Jivenix> thats why his sshd doesnt work
[09:16] <cafuego> Jivenix: I rest my case.
[09:16] <Jivenix> intelikey, what version of sshd?
[09:16] <mustard5> mustard5: testing nick notification
[09:16] <Madpilot> even Google knows about 42: http://www.google.com/search?q=the+answer+to+life,+the+universe,+and+everything&btnG=Search
[09:17] <mustard5> hmmm
[09:17] <Madpilot> check the very first entry :P
[09:17] <kkm> I cant connected to the net can anyone help me ?all of the options are set properly i have interface etho active and device etho enable
[09:17] <zezu> is there are precompiled version of the kernel with agpgart not compiled into it ?
[09:17] <Jivenix> kkm, i dont want to surprise you, but you're on the net
[09:17] <intelikey> mmmmm 1%3a3.9p1-1ubuntu2_
[09:17] <cafuego> intelikey: 42
[09:17] <intelikey> :)
[09:18] <intelikey> Jivenix ^
[09:18] <cafuego> zezu: No.
[09:18] <kkm> Jivenix: I just downloaded ubuntu live CD its the first time i am using linux all of the options are set properly i have interface etho active and device etho enable
[09:18] <omni> can anyone give me a hand getting suspend to ram to work on a hp nx5000 laptop
[09:18] <Jivenix> ifconfig displays an ip address?
[09:18] <cafuego> zezu: it's enabled in all of them, as a module. (So you can blacklist the module if you don't want it to load)
[09:19] <intelikey> Jivenix if that's to me  yes it does.
[09:19] <johnk> !unichrome
[09:19] <ubotu> johnk: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:19] <zezu> eh someone told me even if its compiled into the kernel it will still get used for the stupid fglrx driver
[09:19] <Jivenix> ping google does what?
[09:19] <intelikey> 63.157.242.201
[09:19] <zezu> and i've had hell with it for a long time
[09:19] <intelikey> oh ping.... sec
[09:19] <Jivenix> not you intelikey
[09:19] <intelikey> 64 bytes from 64.233.187.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=246 time=236 ms
[09:19] <intelikey> oh   heh
[09:19] <Jivenix> ;)
[09:20] <intelikey> well put a name with it.
[09:20] <Jivenix> we've already established that your sshd is screwed
[09:20] <Jivenix> yeah my fault
[09:20] <cafuego> jumping off a building does what?
[09:21] <intelikey> well i know within myself that it is not sshd  but some other part of the system....
[09:21] <intelikey> cafuego hurts .
[09:21] <Jivenix> i dont know intelikey, i think its your config
[09:21] <cafuego> intelikey: enable debug on ssh, check logfiles (auth.log?)
[09:21] <Jivenix> yeah
[09:22] <intelikey> well at present it is the default that all hoary openssh-server packages have used.
[09:22] <Jivenix> you got some crazy iftables going on?
[09:23] <intelikey> Jivenix i don't think so  used quicktables to set up iptables.  ?
[09:23] <nm> intelikey: iptables -L
[09:23] <nm> paste that to the pastebin
[09:23] <nm> lets have a look
[09:23] <cafuego> So you're running a firewall?
[09:24] <intelikey> nm why not.... give me a sec
[09:24] <Jivenix> iftables? blah it must be late
[09:24] <intelikey> cafuego i tried it with the firewall off too
[09:24] <nm> intelikey: are you directly connected to the internet? or through a NAT router
[09:24] <cafuego> How did you turn off the firewall, and did that in flact flush the rules?
[09:25] <nm> cafuego: no worries, we'll see in a sec
[09:25] <intelikey> nm dialup modem
[09:25] <zezu> any good tutorials on compiling ubuntu specific kernel ?
[09:25] <cafuego> Yeh. /me has 5 more days of throttled DSL to put up with :-(
[09:26] <cafuego> zezu: Any reason you think you need to?
[09:26] <nm> intelikey: did you paste your iptables -L output?
[09:26] <zezu> cafuego, i've had no luck whatsoever getting fglrx to cooperate w/ DRI
[09:26] <Jivenix> x
[09:26] <zezu> i'm told that agpgart can't even be in the kernel
[09:26] <cafuego> zezu: Did you follow the docs on the wiki?
[09:26] <zezu> compiled with it even, or it forcefully loads it
[09:26] <intelikey> cafuego i removed the init script that started the firewall.... and re booted... made real sure that it wasn't iptables
[09:26] <zezu> cafuego, yes at one point in time
[09:27] <intelikey> yes nm  getting the url
[09:27] <kkm> I just downloaded ubuntu live CD its the first time i am using linux all of the options are set properly i have interface etho active and device etho enable
[09:27] <Jivenix> it sounds like a bug to me
[09:27] <Jivenix> it auths fine
[09:27] <cafuego> zezu: You can add agpgart to the blacklist (/etc/hotplug.d/blacklist)
[09:27] <Jivenix> fails when trying to setup the environment
[09:27] <cafuego> zezu: That will prevent it being loaded at bootup.
[09:27] <intelikey>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9517
[09:27] <zezu> i will test that out, do you know why the fglrx version in package repos. is so old ?
[09:28] <cafuego> intelikey: Can you rerun that with '-v -n' in there too?
[09:28] <nm> no need
[09:28] <kkm> I just downloaded ubuntu live CD its the first time i am using linux all of the options are set properly i have interface etho active and device etho enable But i still cant connect to the internet
[09:28] <nm> his rules are in the wrong order
[09:28] <intelikey> cafuego the iptables -Lvn  ?
[09:28] <nm> intelikey: since you're connected directly to the internet via dialup modem, a firewall is a good idea, but you'll want your rule to accept ssh traffic at the top of the list
[09:28] <cafuego> zezu: Coz only security fixes are allowed in a released Ubuntu version. Dapper will get a far newer fglrx, i expect.
[09:29] <cafuego> !info fglrx dapper
[09:29] <cafuego> intelikey: yes
[09:29] <intelikey> why don't i drop the firewall all togather untill i get sshd fixed... ?
[09:29] <zezu> cafuego, there is no /blacklist there
[09:30] <nm> intelikey: sounds good
[09:30] <Jivenix> i second the motion
[09:30] <nm> tired
[09:30] <nm> sleep time
[09:30] <cafuego> zezu: Badness! Lwet me dig it up...
[09:30] <intelikey> k i'll be back in few.
[09:30] <nm> looks like cafuego can help you just as easily
[09:30] <zezu> and find isn't finding it in /etc anywhere
[09:30] <nm> bbl
[09:30] <zezu> ok thanks ;)
[09:30] <cafuego> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:31] <zezu> not there either
[09:32] <zezu> possibly i need to create it? but i wouldn't know the format
[09:32] <fatbrain> when I install ubuntu (over kubuntu) the grub failed to install, any way I can re-install it?
[09:33] <zezu> err wait there is a /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[09:33] <intelikey> back.
[09:33] <intelikey> cafuego
[09:34] <elkbuntu_> when one logs into ubuntu via the grub safemode option, is there a way to make oneself non-root?
[09:34] <zidanerick> kde vs. gnome neone?
[09:34] <elkbuntu_> s/grub/kernel
[09:34] <ailean> your choice zidanerick
[09:34] <ailean> zidanerick, i use kde, but it's purely a matter of opinion
[09:34] <zidanerick> just like comparing osx and windows?
[09:35] <Haaskaaja> can someone help me to install cedega trial demo; im n00b with this
[09:35] <elkbuntu_> apples and oranges
[09:35] <zidanerick> visual wise
[09:35] <ailean> zidanerick, no, because it's the same underlying software
[09:35] <ailean> zidanerick, it's like comparing Windows 95 and Windows 2000 :P
[09:35] <zidanerick> lol
[09:35] <zidanerick> hey whats with cedega, how come you gotta pay a yearly fee?
[09:36] <Jivenix> http://mesiab.servebeer.com/overlaid/BushFun.aspx?ssh+-l+dubya+pres.whitehouse.ubuntu.com
[09:36] <ailean> cos it's not free
[09:36] <Dwonis> zidanerick: cedega is non-free
[09:36] <Haaskaaja> i want to test that trial demo
[09:36] <zidanerick> yeah i get that, but i would rather buy a copy of it and not have to pay every year
[09:36] <Dwonis> zidanerick: It's a fork of wine from before the LGPL licence switch (and is the *reason* for the licence switch)
[09:36] <samoura> ohhh the psotnic is on my desktop ;??
[09:37] <Dwonis> zidanerick: You can do that
[09:37] <Jivenix> where is this iweather thing coming from i see in so many ubuntu screencaps
[09:37] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~$ cp  cfg-examples/conf.hub conf.hub
[09:37] <samoura> cp: cannot stat `cfg-examples/conf.hub': No such file or directory
[09:37] <Jivenix> all i see is a mac one
[09:37] <zidanerick> you can?!
[09:37] <Dwonis> zidanerick: subscribe for the minimum 3 months, then cancel.  The software still works
[09:37] <zidanerick> kewl
[09:37] <zidanerick> so its just for the updates?
[09:37] <intelikey> iptables -L reports all lines = "target     prot opt source               destination "    ifconfig reports ip = 63.157.242.33      jivenix  want to check without the firewall.
[09:37] <intelikey> ?
[09:37] <Jivenix> ok
[09:37] <pepsi> Jivenix, a mac one?
[09:37] <ailean> how good is cedega compared to wine?
[09:37] <Dwonis> zidanerick: Yeah, as far as I know.  Just make sure you download their "engine" as a separate file (don't let it auto-download)
[09:38] <Haaskaaja> can someone help? i want to try demo
[09:38] <Jivenix> osx
[09:38] <zidanerick> oh ok
[09:38] <Madpilot> Haaskaaja, try #cedega
[09:38] <Dwonis> ailean: Cedega is optimized for specific games.  So it works for those games.
[09:38] <Jivenix> intelikey, getting blocked outright
[09:39] <intelikey> hmmmm.   not making it to the password prompt ?
[09:39] <ailean> so for specific games it's very good?
[09:39] <Jivenix> no
[09:39] <noomz> Help me plz ...
[09:39] <noomz> noomz@MATRIX:~$ mercury
[09:39] <noomz> Unable to locate the application's 'main' class. The class 'com.dMSN.Main' must be public and have a 'public static void main(String[] )' method. (LAX)
[09:39] <noomz> Unable to Launch Java Application: Unable to locate the application's 'main' class. The class 'com.dMSN.Main' must be public and have a 'public static void main(String[] )' method. (LAX)
[09:39] <intelikey> you did del the old keys ?
[09:39] <Dwonis> ailean: it also has explicit support for some proprietary copy-protection schemes
[09:39] <Dwonis> ailean: Beyond that, I don't really know what it's like compared to recent versions of wine.
[09:39] <mustard5> ailean: for officially supported games its good..but that is a limited list of games
[09:39] <noomz> what should ido?
[09:39] <Jivenix> i would have gotten a message about mismatched keys
[09:39] <zezu> adding it to that blacklist did nothing
[09:39] <intelikey> hmmm.
[09:39] <pepsi> Jivenix, just add a new applet to the panel and select Weather or whatever
[09:39] <Tomcat_> Jivenix: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=165
[09:40] <ailean> i'll just use windows then
[09:40] <Jivenix> yeah i have that
[09:40] <zezu> agpgart                34792  1 intel_agp
[09:40] <Jivenix> yeah, desklets that soudns promising
[09:40] <Tomcat_> Jivenix: But I suggest GoodWeather instead of iWeather... iWeather has some problems with the latest gdesklets app.
[09:40] <ailean> i am not going to upgrade to vista though
[09:40] <Haaskaaja> can someone just help me? i want to know how to install cedega tril demo
[09:40] <Jivenix> ok
[09:40] <Rob_Dude> Does anyone run Apache with Asp.Net?  I've been reading at it's "possible" to do; but I'm wondering how stable/reliable is it to use to develop code that needs to run on a IIS?  Do you all think I'd be better off using VMware for that sort of thing?
[09:40] <Tomcat_> Jivenix: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=204
[09:41] <Madpilot> Tomcat_, Gnome has a weather applet as well, if you don't feel like running gdesklets
[09:41] <Dwonis> ailean: It's probably easiest to run Windows programs in Windows.  Wine/Cedega/CrossOver is handy for people who use Linux anyway, but have that *one program* that still needs Windows.
[09:41] <ailean> Tomcat_, KDE has one - i'm running right now
[09:41] <pepsi> vmware
[09:42] <ailean> yeah Dwonis but i'd like to get to that stage
[09:42] <Dwonis> pepsi: vmware isn't great for games
[09:42] <pepsi> games? what are those?
[09:42] <pepsi> :)
[09:42] <mustard5> Haaskaaja: doesnt the cedega site have instructions?
[09:43] <Dwonis> ailean: Well, try wine, and if that doesn't work, check the cedega games database, and I suppose you can try it for a little while (the minimum subscription is fairly cheap).
[09:43] <Dwonis> pepsi: Hence why I use vmware :)
[09:43] <ailean> aye, maybe
[09:43] <Rob_Dude> When is Vista supposed to come out?
[09:43] <Dwonis> what kind of person asks "When is Vista supposed to come out?" in #debian?
[09:44] <Dwonis> !windowssmite Rob_Dude
[09:44] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Dwonis
[09:44] <Rob_Dude> :)  I meant....so I could prepare new anti-windows jokes before the release ;P
[09:44] <Dwonis> ah crap. I thought I was in #debian
[09:45] <Dwonis> stupid xchat.  When you hit "x" on a channel, it doesn't return to the *last* channel you were in.  For some reason, I expect this.
[09:46] <pepsi> xchat always enjoys being random
[09:46] <ailean> doesn't vmware slow windows down?
[09:46] <Tomcat_> Dwonis: How could you... in #debian he'd have been banned for just mentioning Vista ;)
[09:46] <pepsi> ailean, of course it odes
[09:47] <ailean> i might try it though
[09:47] <CaptainMorgan> Im in some real crap here... how do I chmod for directories only?
[09:47] <Dwonis> Tomcat_: well, I *tried* to be a good #debian user and !windowssmite him :)
[09:47] <overrider> does http://sourceforge.net/ look strange to you or is it just me?
[09:47] <pepsi> its more than fine if you arent playing fancy 3d games in it though :P
[09:47] <Tomcat_> Oi, so there is a command for it. :)
[09:47] <intelikey> well Jivenix i'm back to    Password:
[09:47] <intelikey> Connection to localhost closed.
[09:47] <intelikey> on localhost
[09:47] <overrider> looks like someone forgot the stylesheet
[09:47] <Jivenix> screwed
[09:47] <Dwonis> ailean: yeah, VMware does *not* work if you need 3D acceleration
[09:47] <Jivenix> how the heck to i use this gDesklet
[09:47] <Dwonis> ailean: at least, not yet
[09:47] <Tomcat_> overrider: No, looks fine here.
[09:48] <pepsi> new versions let you turn on 3d acceleration somehow
[09:48] <Tomcat_> Jivenix: Install the gdesklets package, then drag the download link to GoodWeather into it.
[09:48] <pepsi> its experimental afaik
[09:48] <ailean> k
[09:48] <Jivenix> easy enoughu
[09:48] <ailean> no half-life 2 then :)
[09:48] <Dwonis> pepsi: right.  I wouldn't buy it for the games :)
[09:48] <pepsi> why would you buy it at all? :P
[09:48] <pepsi> vmare player is free ;)
[09:48] <ailean> oi
[09:49] <Dwonis> pepsi: vmware server apparently is, too
[09:49] <pepsi> interesting
[09:49] <Dwonis> pepsi: at least, by some standards of "free"
[09:49] <Afief> Does a none root user need the filesystem folders(bin, etc, usr...) for anything? I mean can he use them in any bizzare way?
[09:49] <ailean> that actually IS free, as oppose to pirated
[09:49] <pepsi> oh
[09:49] <pepsi> vmware player really is free
[09:50] <Dwonis> pepsi: Sorry, I'm from #debian.  "free" means a different thing to me.
[09:50] <Tomcat_> Afief: He can read them and that's not really dangerous.
[09:50] <pepsi> uh
[09:50] <intelikey> lets see if there are any hackers around.    my ip is 63.157.242.33   and my root password is indian   no firewall  and sshd is running bet it's borked.    knock your self out i'm going to bed.
[09:50] <drgreborn> O.o
[09:50] <Tomcat_> O_O
[09:50] <ailean> so what's the diff between player and other versions??
[09:50] <K-Rich> where is the main file smeg uses for the menu... having issues with something that was added now i can open smeg :/
[09:51] <Afief> Tomcat_: yes, but would a normal user need/have something from reading/using/writing to those folders?
[09:51] <overrider> i cant download the msttcorefont via apt-get for some reason, say i get the package manually from sourceforge, where should i put it so apt can install it ?
[09:51] <Dwonis> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 257.297/291.383/337.149/32.737 ms
[09:51] <Tomcat_> Connect closed after entering password :)
[09:51] <CaptainMorgan> anyone?
[09:51] <intelikey> oh one more thing.   guest account password is x  pam has no remote root login set.
[09:52] <Tomcat_> Afief: read and execute yes... most user-space applications live in /usr/bin... writing is usually not allowed anyway, and users don't need it.
[09:52] <Dwonis> intelikey: How do we know this is really your machine?
[09:52] <intelikey> Dwonis you don't
[09:52] <Tomcat_> Doesn't work anyway. :P
[09:52] <Afief> Tomcat_: Because if not, then why do we let normal users see them anyway? it's a big headache for normal people(it was for me when i started)
[09:53] <Ubuntu> How do you remove GRUB from An MRB?
[09:53] <Tomcat_> Afief: Because there might be applications that need stuff from there.
[09:53] <intelikey> Tomcat_ i told you sshd is borked
[09:53] <zcat[1] > allowedusers = ""
[09:53] <intelikey> good night.
[09:53] <zcat[1] > ?
[09:53] <Tomcat_> Afief: *usually* users don't need all the directories, but you can never tell for sure... there are programs that do.
[09:54] <Jivenix> hmm, installing gdesklets from apt-get bad idea?
[09:54] <K-Rich> where is the main file smeg uses for the menu... having issues with something that was added now i can open smeg :/
[09:54] <CaptainMorgan> is it possible to recursively chmod only directories?
[09:54] <K-Rich> anyone? please ... kinda in dire straits
[09:54] <Afief> Tomcat_: but what applications see and what a user sees are two different things: an application and a root user could still have all the filesystem while other users see only their documents,music,videos...etc(windows has done something right for a change)
[09:55] <jbowtie_> K-Rich: What are you trying to do? Lauch smeg?
[09:55] <Madpilot> CaptainMorgan, have a good look thru "man chmod" - but AFAIK -R means "everything"
[09:55] <zcat[1] > Ubuntu: to remove grub, normally you replace it with something that's not grub; lilo, or fdisk /mbr from dos, or install Windows
[09:55] <K-Rich> jbowtie_: yeah, i installed an app and now i get an error when trying to load it... it's happened before ... but i can't remember the name of the file i need to edit
[09:56] <CaptainMorgan> thanks Madpilot, already did nothing in there about recursively dir's
[09:57] <pepsi> K-Rich, /etc/kdg/ ?
[09:57] <pepsi> er xdg
[09:57] <jbowtie_> K-Rich: Oh, you're looking for the app.desktop file that needs to be fixed?
[09:57] <K-Rich> right
[09:57] <Afief> Tomcat_: you with me?
[09:59] <jbowtie_> IIRC, the shared desktop files go in /usr/share/applications/
[09:59] <Haaskaaja> i have downloaded cedega demo,now i want to know how to install it?
[09:59] <jbowtie_> or /usr/share/app-install/desktop/
[10:00] <Ubuntu> Is any one going to answer my question?
[10:00] <zcat[1] > ubuntu what question?
[10:00] <pepsi> by this time, no
[10:00] <Haaskaaja> i really need hel witg this
[10:00] <fatbrain> How do I run the grub-floppy command?
[10:00] <fishse> i downloaded ubuntu for the amd64 machine
[10:00] <K-Rich> jbowtie_: thank you... it was permission issues thanks to automatix in /usr/share/applications/dvdrip.desktop and /usr/share/applications/avidemux.desktop
[10:00] <zezu> should have stuck with my first instinct and just compiled a new kernel
[10:00] <fishse> but he cant install the ground system#
[10:01] <fishse> plz help
[10:01] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: What did you download? A .deb?
[10:01] <Ubuntu> How do we remove GRUB from an MBR?
[10:01] <zcat[1] > Ubuntu: to remove grub, normally you overwrite it with something that's not grub; lilo, or fdisk /mbr from dos, or install Windows
[10:01] <fishse> ubuntu for amd64
[10:01] <Haaskaaja> umm..
[10:02] <fishse> and he cant install the mains system
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> Ubuntu: go to bootdisk.com, download one of those win98 boot disk, reboot into it and do fdisk /mbr
[10:02] <zcat[1] > Ubuntu: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 will 'remove' grub for you..
[10:02] <Haaskaaja> how i can know what type file is?
[10:03] <jbowtie_> Ubuntu: Why do you want to remove it? It might help us give you a better answer.
[10:03] <guillem101> Ubuntu,, be careful using dd command. Check the syntax twice previous to do what zcat[1]  says....
[10:03] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: Usually we look at the filename.
[10:04] <jbowtie_> So, if the filename is cedega.deb, we call it a .deb file.
[10:04] <Haaskaaja> "cedega_timedemo_installer"
[10:04] <Haaskaaja> anythin else
[10:04] <Ubuntu> Thank you for the help.
[10:05] <Haaskaaja> argh
[10:05] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: If there's no extension it's usually a text file, or a script.
[10:05] <Haaskaaja> ...
[10:05] <Haaskaaja> gedit cant open it
[10:05] <zcat[1] > Haaskaaja: 'file foo' will usually tell you what foo is.
[10:06] <Ubuntu> Is the CVS version of Cedega better than the timedemo version?
[10:06] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: In this case it's a script or binary.
[10:06] <zcat[1] > zcat@fluffy:~$ file bee.xcf
[10:06] <razif7> hi there
[10:06] <zcat[1] > bee.xcf: GIMP XCF image data, version 0, 1256 x 1092, RGB Color
[10:06] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: You can probably double click on it, but if that doesn't do anything...
[10:07] <razif7> anybody can help me to upgarede firefox to 1.5
[10:07] <Haaskaaja> it opens gedit, and then comes some kind of error
[10:07] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: open up Terminal (from the accessories menu)
[10:08] <razif7> ok..then
[10:08] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: If you downloaded it into your home directory, you should be able to type "./cedega_timedemo_installer"
[10:08] <razif7> my tar file is on desktop
[10:08] <Tas> hi
[10:08] <zcat[1] > razif7: there's a howto on the web.. somewhere.
[10:09] <Tas> i have a graet question
[10:09] <Tas> can someone help me_
[10:09] <Tas> ?
[10:09] <zcat[1] > http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/How_to_Install_Firefox_1.5_in_Ubuntu_Linux
[10:09] <jos> http://downloads.transgaming.com/files/timedemo_howto.html
[10:09] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: It should either run, or give you an error message.
[10:09] <Haaskaaja> access denie or something..
[10:09] <juanma_> hola
[10:09] <juanma_> alguien espaol?
[10:10] <zcat[1] > OOo there's a repo. for it.. not sure if anyone's done packages for ff1.5 yet
[10:10] <Tas> how can i use an USB ADSL modem on ubuntu_
[10:10] <juanma_> habla espaol?
[10:10] <zcat[1] > Err OOo2 I meanb
[10:10] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: Try "sh cedega_timedemo_installer"; fi that doesn't work, check the web page jos mentioned.
[10:11] <jbowtie_> Tas: We can try, what's your question?
[10:11] <Tas> how can i use an USB ADSL modem on ubuntu?
[10:11] <CaptainMorgan> hey Madpilot.. check out this command for what i was trying to do: find . -type d -exec chmod u+x {} \;
[10:11] <zcat[1] > Which brand and model?
[10:11] <Tas> the dialer wants to use only eth.
[10:11] <CaptainMorgan> fellow linux user in another channel gave it up..
[10:11] <Haaskaaja> .setup12514: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:11] <Tas> but my adsl modem is on USB
[10:12] <Tomcat_> Afief: Sorry, was brushing my teeth. I don't see the problem... users have "Home Folder" and "Desktop" as their top icons in "Places"... they don't have to click on "Computer" (similar to root-fs) and if they do, it's their choice...
[10:12] <Madpilot> CaptainMorgan, interesting - so it chmods only directories without touching the files inside them?
[10:12] <Tomcat_> Afief: So if they're disturbed by the root-fs structure, they shouldn't have clicked on it. :)
[10:12] <CaptainMorgan> exactly.. Im actuall y impressed ;)
[10:12] <zcat[1] > Tas: brand and model number?
[10:12] <Tomcat_> Afief: It's like saying regular Windows users shouldn't be able to change to the C:\Windows folder... but usually they can, and they won't like what they see there.
[10:12] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: OK, that we can address.
[10:12] <Tas> alcatel speedtouch 330
[10:13] <Tomcat_> Afief: Or maybe I'm not getting what you want to say. :>
[10:13] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: That error means it can't find a file.
[10:13] <Madpilot> CaptainMorgan, cool. I'll copy that down for dissection tomorrow!
[10:13] <Haaskaaja>  :/
[10:13] <CaptainMorgan> :)
[10:13] <Haaskaaja> need to install/download something?
[10:14] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: You need to install libgtk-1.2
[10:14] <Haaskaaja> where to get it?
[10:14] <ardchoille> !antivirus
[10:14] <ubotu> ardchoille: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:14] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: That's in the repositories. Do you know how to use Synaptic Package Manager?
[10:15] <zcat[1] > Tas: http://steve-parker.org/speedtouchconf/ might help..  .. or not :-)
[10:15] <ardchoille> What is a good virus scanning app?
[10:15] <nicolas_faf> join #ubuntu-fr
[10:15] <zcat[1] > ardchoille: what's a virus?
[10:15] <Tas> zcat thx
[10:15] <mustard5> ardchoille: clamav
[10:16] <ardchoille> mustard5: thank you
[10:16] <Jivenix> i cant make gdesklets work :\
[10:16] <ufo> what ide for c++ programming should i use for gnome
[10:16] <Haaskaaja> well..
[10:17] <Haaskaaja> i dont find that file
[10:17] <Haaskaaja> ftm synaptic
[10:17] <Haaskaaja> from*
[10:17] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: My mistake, it doesn't have a dash; look for libgtk1.2
[10:19] <jbowtie_> Tas: I know people in NZ have got that model working
[10:19] <Haaskaaja>  :D
[10:19] <Haaskaaja> now it download something
[10:20] <jbowtie_> Tas: Try searching http://wlug.org.nz/
[10:20] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: When synaptic's done, try running the installer again.
[10:20] <Jivenix> i start gdesklets and it just dies
[10:20] <Jivenix> no message, no nothing
[10:21] <Haaskaaja> ok
[10:21] <Jivenix> oh wait
[10:21] <Jivenix> heh
[10:21] <Jivenix> permission denied on my home dir
[10:21] <zcat[1] > jbowtie_: 510, not 330..
[10:21] <Jivenix> how do i fix that
[10:22] <Haaskaaja> wohoo
[10:22] <Haaskaaja> it works
[10:22] <damian_> anyone know some unofficial repositories?
[10:22] <damian_> only know debian.nl
[10:23] <jbowtie_> Haaskaaja: Happy to help!
[10:23] <Haaskaaja> thank you alot :D
[10:23] <Jivenix> how can i set permissions on a folder such that an app can read/write to it
[10:23] <jbowtie_> ufo: I think most people use emacs or vi. :)
[10:24] <jbowtie_> ufo: But for C++ work the only IDE that I've heard mentioned is anjuta.
[10:24] <whishkah> I only have a 9 gig hard drive, now it is full. I think it is the TMPs, but I cannot find them. On other distros they were in the /tmp folder. I looked and there isn't much in there. The software I have only takes up 4-5 Gigs.
[10:24] <jbowtie_> ufo: anjunta
[10:24] <ufo> jbowtie_: ok... thx
[10:24] <ardchoille> Jivenix: chmod 755 /path/to/folder
[10:24] <ssi_ben> hello, i need some explanations to set up a sftp passive server on my newly ubuntu server
[10:24] <Jivenix> thanks
[10:25] <soundray> whishkah: check out how big /var/cache/apt/archives is, and run apt-get autoclean or apt-get clean to reduce it.
[10:25] <ssi_ben> is there anybody that can help me for a few questions
[10:25] <Jivenix> [EXC] [Errno 13]  Permission denied: '/home/kmesiab/.gdesklets/Displays'
[10:25] <Jivenix> i get this from gdesklets
[10:26] <Jivenix> i set it to 754
[10:26] <Jivenix> i set it to 755
[10:26] <berkes> good morning
[10:26] <damian_> only know debian.nl
[10:26] <damian_> anyone know some unofficial repositories?
[10:26] <damian_> anyone know some unofficial repositories?
[10:26] <berkes> does anyone know a trick / command to test certain ports?
[10:26] <zcat[1] > damian_: yes :-)
[10:26] <berkes> I need to know if i successfully opened several port.
[10:26] <soundray> berkes, telnet host portnumber
[10:27] <damian_> tell
[10:27] <berkes> (for jabberd and msn-jabber
[10:27] <damian_> tell
[10:27] <berkes> soundray: thanks
[10:27] <damian_> whys my text repeating
[10:27] <damian_> whys my text repeating
[10:27] <zcat[1] > plf is good
[10:27] <Ng> berkes: you can just use telnet, so "telnet localhost 1234" to connect to localhost on port 1234
[10:27] <zcat[1] > I'd suggest sticking to standard repos though.. unofficial ones can break things quite badly.
[10:27] <Ng> oops, didn't see soundray already answered that ;)
[10:28] <soundray> Ng: I was just getting ready to mock you :)
[10:28] <berkes> Ng: thanks
[10:28] <Jivenix> i got it working
[10:28] <Jivenix> had to set it to 777
[10:28] <zcat[1] > there's a sources.list builder somewhere on ubuntu.com.. someone else here might know the URL.. It's great for finding new repos
[10:28] <damian_> theres just one proram im looking for in binary form
[10:28] <damian_> dssi
[10:29] <Ng> !sources
[10:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:29] <Ng> that's the one
[10:29] <Ng> !easysource
[10:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:29] <zcat[1] > thanks ng, that was the one :-)
[10:29] <whishkah> soundray: is there anywhere else? That only cleaned up 238.1 MB. I do watch a lot of game videos from IGN or GAMESPOT. I know they have to be somewhere.
[10:29] <berkes> telnet messenger.msn.com 443 w000t.
[10:29] <berkes> thanks folks
[10:29] <soundray> whishkah: would they be large files?
[10:29] <zcat[1] > whishkah: empty trash?
[10:30] <damian_> thanks
[10:30] <ardchoille> whishkah: /var/tmp ?
[10:30] <whishkah> soundray: Some are around 25 MB.
[10:30] <ardchoille> zcat[1] : that sounds about right
[10:30] <whishkah> zcat[1] : My user trash? That is empty.
[10:31] <soundray> whishkah: 'find / -size +20M' will give you a list of all files larger than 20MB. Takes a while, though
[10:31] <fatbrain> why the hell am I unable to install grub?
[10:31] <fatbrain> I've manage to install it before on this system.
[10:31] <soundray> fatbrain: grub reacts sensitively to swearing.
[10:31] <RobDude[XP] > (Newb Q) - What's grub?
[10:32] <zcat[1] > RobDude[XP] : GRand Universal Bootloader
[10:32] <fatbrain> anyone know how to boot using the bash-like grub tool?
[10:32] <Rob_Dude> Oh - yeah, ty
[10:32] <jbowtie_> fatbrain: Well, the LiveCD installer has bugs with installing grub.
[10:32] <soundray> fatbrain: when it's installed, hit 'c' on the boot menu.
[10:32] <fatbrain> I'm not using LiveCD. I'm installing it to my hd.
[10:32] <fatbrain> ok.
[10:33] <fatbrain> neat, hopefully the 'c' does something neat ;)
[10:33] <fatbrain> nothing happens
[10:33] <zcat[1] > c == crash
[10:33] <fatbrain> (and yes, I'm using dapper flight-4 :D)
[10:33] <zcat[1] > .. umm.. /me doesn't actually know the grub command line :)
[10:34] <jbowtie_> fatbrain: getting a specific error code from grub?
[10:34] <fatbrain> me neither, but I have the grub-floppy
[10:34] <fatbrain> error 17, but that was before I removed it from the mbr.
[10:34] <fatbrain> (that was the grub I had since I had kubuntu on my system)
[10:34] <zcat[1] > I once fumbled through getting XP to boot from a secondary drive, but that was mostly a fluke.
[10:35] <ardchoille> lol
[10:35] <`ns`> I just wish I could get the friggin live cd to work .... x-server problems. I need to get at the hard drive and transfer some stuff off it before I format and install.   machine has an ancient trident vid card in a pci slot ...
[10:35] <fatbrain> a long time ago, I used the bash grub to boot my system, with some crazy cli, but I don't recall what I typed ^-^
[10:35] <soundray> fatbrain, have you read the wiki material on grub?
[10:35] <jbowtie_> Booting from the grub shell I use the following:
[10:35] <Wolfensteijn> wh00t, ubuntu installed on my laptop :)
[10:36] <jbowtie_> root (hd0, 0)
[10:36] <jbowtie_> setup (hd0) <-- to install MBR
[10:36] <fatbrain> soundray: not really, I wouldn't know where to start looking, I've search google alot and the ubuntu forum for some solution, but with little luck.
[10:36] <soundray> !tell fatbrain about grub
[10:36] <fatbrain> thanks
[10:37] <blacking> hello all..
[10:38] <k31th> Morning kids
[10:39] <blacking> i have seen that Dapper support natively wi-fi technology..
[10:39] <soundray> blacking: so does breezy.
[10:40] <id_sonic> how to install color-theme for emacs in breezy /??
[10:40] <id_sonic> anyone can help me?
[10:40] <id_sonic> I can't install it
[10:41] <blacking> i think is better with Dapper
[10:41] <blacking> more easy
[10:42] <id_sonic> more easy?
[10:42] <id_sonic> how easy?
[10:42] <soundray> blacking: there is always progress. But "native wifi support" has been in Ubuntu for a long time.
[10:44] <blacking> sure.. but because i can seen now in Dapper networking pane the driver/symbol wi'fi ?
[10:45] <colm> I'm using freenx with multimedia support.  I get startup sound and incidental sounds like changing tabs in gnome terminal, but I can't play any media, control the volume etc.  Any ideas?
[10:46] <CNKRTDSKO> hello?
[10:46] <ardchoille> hi
[10:46] <CNKRTDSKO> hey
[10:46] <giany911> hy
[10:46] <CNKRTDSKO> umm...i'm brand new to ubuntu...infact, im still downloading it.
[10:46] <CNKRTDSKO> i have a few questions if thats cool
[10:46] <ardchoille> yep
[10:46] <giany911> go ahead ...
[10:47] <SirKillalot> woohoo the recent gentoo has an installer *laugh* :)
[10:47] <djkrikke> hello
[10:47] <djkrikke> tried to install kubuntu dapper
[10:47] <djkrikke> (flight 4)
[10:47] <djkrikke> everything installs fine except the kernel
[10:47] <CNKRTDSKO> sweet. ok well first off. im downloading the install iso, i got the live cd first, but that isnt what i wanted. anyways, im wondering when i go to install it will it remove my windows? (that is what i want)
[10:48] <blacking> last release of dapper is 28/02
[10:48] <djkrikke> in the 4th display, I can see there is a MD5SUM mismatch of the kernel
[10:48] <giany911> it will remove windows only if u want it to
[10:48] <Madpilot> CNKRTDSKO, you've got options during the install, but if you just want it to reformat your whole hardrive, it'll do that
[10:48] <CNKRTDSKO> ok cool, and when im removing windows, do i have the option to move some folder around? like documents and mp3's?
[10:48] <djkrikke> i checked the md5sum of the iso and he's allright
[10:49] <giany911> CNKRTDSKO yes it will format the whole drive and u will loose everything thats on it
[10:49] <giany911> or u can pick what to format ...assuming u got more partitions
[10:49] <Madpilot> CNKRTDSKO, do you have partitions on the drive?
[10:49] <ardchoille> CNKRTDSKO: before you install, it is my opinion that you should backup your personal files somewhere (CD-R maybe?) just in case.
[10:49] <CNKRTDSKO> ok, so i should back up my inportant things then...and once it is done installing, when i turn on my pc, it will boot straight into ubuntu right?
[10:49] <giany911> yeo
[10:50] <giany911> yep
[10:50] <Madpilot> yes
[10:50] <ardchoille> yes
[10:50] <CNKRTDSKO> ok sweet :)
[10:50] <giany911> :))
[10:50] <CNKRTDSKO> now, are there any themes and stuff....kind of like windowsblinds?
[10:50] <ardchoille> CNKRTDSKO: lots and lots of them
[10:50] <giany911> yes u can find lots of themes for gnome
[10:50] <CNKRTDSKO> gnome?
[10:50] <bimberi> CNKRTDSKO: but they're all brown </joking>
[10:50] <Madpilot> CNKRTDSKO, theming Ubuntu is even easier than theming windows - no need for extra programs like Windowsblind
[10:50] <ardchoille> CNKRTDSKO: gnome-look.org  art.gnome.org  for starters
[10:50] <CNKRTDSKO> lol
[10:50] <pekuja> anyone else have problems with irssi and gnome terminal? I keep getting this glitch where the whole terminal turns blue
[10:51] <kkm> I downloaded ubuntu live but i cant get into the net from it can someone help me ? The interface etho is active and device etho is on enable ?
[10:51] <CNKRTDSKO> cool, and ubuntu comes with the nessecary things like firefox and a media player and a chat (IM) program right?
[10:51] <ardchoille> pekuja: yes, I have that problem too. I installed rxvt and it works better.
[10:51] <ardchoille> CNKRTDSKO: yep :)
[10:51] <CNKRTDSKO> oh man. i love it.
[10:51] <giany911> kkm try setting your own ip and dns
[10:52] <Madpilot> CNKRTDSKO, yes, and OpenOffice, the gimp, and lots of other stuff
[10:52] <bimberi> CNKRTDSKO: yep, firefox, rhythmbox / totem and gaim respectively out of the box and others available for later install
[10:52] <giany911> and its a lot faster that windows:|
[10:52] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: the best things in life are Free :)
[10:52] <giany911> :D
[10:52] <kkm> giany911: thats too hard for me , i dont know jack about that all i want is to be able to connect to the net for now ?
[10:52] <pekuja> ardchoille: well yeah, I have aterm installed, but it still annoys me that I can't use gnome terminal
[10:52] <bimberi> with a capital F!
[10:52] <CNKRTDSKO> oh yeah. my main concern with all this is, i am using a wireless router, the actual modem is upstairs...and i have been told that ubuntu wont read my driver disks and stuff..so how am i to get on the internet? like how do i configure my router?
[10:52] <variant> CNKRTDSKO: you will need ot install the codecs etc but thats an easy menu option
[10:52] <giany911> kkm u know whats your ip .. ?
[10:52] <soundray> kkm, are you behind a router?
[10:53] <variant> CNKRTDSKO: for most videos and music
[10:53] <kkm> giany911: No
[10:53] <CNKRTDSKO> cool
[10:53] <kkm> soundray: I dont know
[10:53] <ardchoille> CNKRTDSKO: bookmark  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/  and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/  they are awesome sources of info :)
[10:53] <variant> CNKRTDSKO: you will just use dhcp to connect to the router..
[10:53] <giany911> variant i think its kkms problem
[10:54] <variant> CNKRTDSKO: no driver needed unless you connect the modem directly to the ubuntu box
[10:54] <CNKRTDSKO> oh ok cool
[10:54] <variant> CNKRTDSKO: what wireless card do you have in the ubuntu box?
[10:54] <CNKRTDSKO> wow...this seems pretty easy :)
[10:54] <zcat[1] > 'wireless' -- depends if the card is supported
[10:54] <kkm> variant: How would i use dhcp ? can you help me ?
[10:54] <soundray> kkm, can you describe your setup?
[10:54] <variant> kkm: it should be automatic
[10:54] <CNKRTDSKO> no wireless card...its a USB wireless router...
[10:54] <CNKRTDSKO> just plugs into my usb port
[10:55] <variant> CNKRTDSKO: you are connecting the router to the ubuntu box with usb?
[10:55] <kkm> soundray: I am using Ethernet adsl modem
[10:55] <ecen> hello, i'm new to linux and it seems i successfuly installed ubuntu and everything goes fine. the thing is that i want to load my nic driver but when i try to load the root account it keeps on saying wrong password. im sure im typing the right password. so, is there a way to update the password without having to reinstall the so?
[10:55] <giany911> i guess installing kde wont do any harm right ?
[10:55] <zcat[1] > ahh, ok.. and using rj45? It'll just connect straight away then :)
[10:55] <CNKRTDSKO> variant -- yes i am
[10:55] <variant> ecen: sudo su
[10:55] <ecen> i meant os
[10:55] <bimberi> CNKRTDSKO: ubotu tell ecen about root
[10:55] <Madpilot> CNKRTDSKO, have a look at this page, see if your USB wireless is mentioned: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:55] <bimberi> ubotu tell ecen about root
[10:55] <variant> CNKRTDSKO: then you might need a driver... what router model is it?
[10:55] <bimberi> sorry CNKRTDSKO ignore that last post from me
[10:55] <ecen> variant: i was doing sudo root, i guess that was my mistake
[10:55] <variant> Madpilot: its not a nick, its a router
[10:56] <Madpilot> variant, an, nevermind then
[10:56] <kkm> soundray: I am using Ethernet adsl modem
[10:56] <variant> ecen: you can set teh root password with sudo su && passwd
[10:56] <CNKRTDSKO> d-link airplus 802.11G
[10:56] <soundray> kkm, have you used this modem before to connect to the internet?
[10:56] <ecen> variant: ok, i got it
[10:56] <piper> hi
[10:56] <ecen> variant: thanks
[10:56] <piper> sum kinda new here
[10:56] <soundray> kkm, or is it a first-time setup?
[10:56] <Madpilot> ecen, you can just use sudo, you don't need a root pw
[10:57] <fatbrain> oh, 4 tedious commands made me boot up my system.
[10:57] <fatbrain> :)
[10:57] <kkm> soundray: I havnt used linux before
[10:57] <CNKRTDSKO> VARIANT: its a D-Link Airplus 802.11g 2.4ghz USB wireless router
[10:57] <soundray> kkm: I mean with any operating system.
[10:57] <ecen> Madpilot: ok, i got it
[10:57] <piper> is there any open software for ubunto that has a video conferencing capabilities
[10:57] <soundray> piper: ekiga
[10:57] <giany911> eh ... i guess installing kde wont do any harm right ?
[10:58] <piper> ekiga??
[10:58] <kkm> soundray: yes its my first time i dont know anything all i want is to be able to connect to the net from linux then im gonna take up a linx course anyway
[10:58] <ardchoille> giany911: I installed KDE and it did no harm to any of my machines.
[10:58] <ecen> another thing that i dont seem to find is the linux source to compile a driver
[10:58] <variant> CNKRTDSKO: might be a problem, if you can connect it with ethernet then it will work fine
[10:58] <soundray> piper: it used to be called gnomemeeting
[10:58] <ecen> is it included in the cd?
[10:58] <giany911> ardchoille and will it come with all basic kde programs?
[10:58] <bimberi> ecen: gnomemeeting is, Applications -> Internet
[10:59] <giany911> *programs
[10:59] <piper> have u used that b4
[10:59] <tol> hai
[10:59] <kkm> soundray: yes its my first time i dont know anything all i want is to be able to connect to the net from linux then im gonna take up a linx course anyway
[10:59] <CNKRTDSKO> varient: aww balls. so if it doesnt work, how could i get it work?
[10:59] <soundray> kkm: do not post the same thing twice. I read you.
[10:59] <CNKRTDSKO> *variant (sorry)
[10:59] <piper> new here as well but i think linux pretty easy
[10:59] <tol> hai anasha
[10:59] <kkm> soundray: sorry
[11:00] <FUSK> DAMN, ive been trying to open a rar file. But no program help..
[11:00] <ecen> bimberi: ? i was asking about the linux source to compile a driver, where is it located, under what name?=
[11:00] <SirKillalot> how do I use telnet with a serial connectioN?
[11:00] <soundray> kkm: what I mean is: have you used Windows or any other operating system to connect to the internet with this particular modem?
[11:00] <SirKillalot> as client
[11:00] <ardchoille> giany911: I installed kubuntu-desktop, it is a meta package that pulls in all KDE stuff.
[11:00] <ecen> is on the cd?
[11:00] <giany911> ardchoille oh ok
[11:00] <kkm> soundray: Ofcourse yes i am using windows atm and connected
[11:00] <soundray> FUSK: install unrar-nonfree
[11:00] <FUSK> okay, ive been tryng unrar-free, but it wont work
[11:00] <giany911> who can tell me where are the firefox bookmarks ?
[11:01] <bimberi> ecen: yes, sorry, i missed that post.  I don't think it is - the package is linux-source-2.6.12
[11:01] <soundray> FUSK: install unrar-nonfree
[11:01] <FUSK> okay
[11:01] <ardchoille> giany911: you mean where the bookmarks are stored on the hard drive?
[11:01] <giany911> ardchoille yep
[11:01] <kkm> soundray: You see i downloaded the Live CD so im rebooting all the time switching
[11:01] <piper> linux is very straigth forward
[11:02] <soundray> kkm, good. Run ipconfig in Windows to find out your IP address and gateway.
[11:02] <ecen> bimberi: where can i find it if not in the cd? can you help me? is there another way to install a nic driver?
[11:02] <kkm> soundray: I did that
[11:02] <ardchoille> giany911: ~/.mozilla/firefox there is a folder in there and that holds all Firefox items
[11:02] <ardchoille> giany911: the bookmarks file is "bookmarks.html"
[11:03] <bimberi> ecen: you might only need the headers - 'sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname-r)'
[11:03] <kkm> soundray: done
[11:03] <soundray> kkm, okay. When you boot the Live CD next, go to System-Administration-Network and configure your eth0 interface with this data.
[11:03] <giany911> ardchoille yep i know that :P
[11:03] <ardchoille> ok :)
[11:03] <damian_> is multiverse and universe safe?
[11:03] <ndlovu> lately my hard drive has been swapping a lot more than it used to, but I can't see what would be taking up all the space. is there some way to check that?
[11:03] <Madpilot> damian_, yes
[11:03] <damian_> and what about the demudi repositories
[11:03] <FUSK> soundray : It was the same which I downloaded yesterday from winlab. It worked yesterday, but today its just showing the functions..
[11:03] <kkm> soundray: i did that also they are the same.
[11:04] <Madpilot> damian_, the which?
[11:04] <kkm> soundray: Someone helped me out befor
[11:04] <ecen> bimberi: ok, thanks. i'll logoff from windows (where i am now), try what you say and come back to tell you how it went
[11:04] <damian_> never mind they are thanks
[11:04] <kkm> soundray: Told me i should do that
[11:04] <giany911> ardchoille oops .. wheres  ~/.mozilla/firefo cause  u lost me here:))
[11:05] <soundray> FUSK: how are you calling unrar?
[11:05] <Madpilot> giany911, in the file manager, press Ctrl+H to see the hidden files
[11:05] <ardchoille> giany911: /home/your_user/.mozilla/firefox
[11:05] <damian_> Madpilot: and its safe to upgrade these NOT Authenticated! packeges/
[11:05] <Jewishbob> i just downloaded ubuntu and it didnt work
[11:05] <FUSK> soundray: unrar -e Krs-One_1995_-_Krs-One.rar
[11:05] <soundray> kkm: depending on where you are and how your modem works, you may have to run pppoe
[11:05] <Madpilot> damian_, which packages, from which repository?
[11:05] <giany911> hooray found it ty :P
[11:06] <ardchoille> yw :)
[11:06] <noomz> PLz! Could anyone can help me with apache2 w/ ssl & php?
[11:06] <ecen> oh, last q before i logoff. is there a way to completely hide the bars? i mean, if you select to hide them automatically they just parcially hide
[11:06] <aalex77> Hi! I just installed ubuntu on my 64 bit notebook but the network doesn't work!If i do ifconfig it's seem all good but i can't ping my router...any hint??On the incon in the X server i get this message : SIOCGIFFLAGS : No such device...thanks
[11:06] <Madpilot> noomz, #apache or ##php
[11:06] <Jewishbob> i just downloaded ubuntu and it didnt work
[11:07] <Madpilot> Jewishbob, "didn't work" is a bit vague - got more detail for us?
[11:07] <elkbuntu_> Jewishbob, which ubuntu
[11:07] <soundray> FUSK: try without the '-' before e
[11:07] <kkm> soundray: Someone also said i have to connect to the internet because i didnt get an address from my DHCPd ? is this possible i dont know what it means ?
[11:07] <damian_> Madpilot: well i enabled multiverse and universe. My computer was up to date. Clicked mark all upgrades.
[11:07] <Jewishbob> the pc install cd
[11:08] <Madpilot> Jewishbob, did you check the md5sum of the download, and burn the ISO correctly?
[11:08] <damian_> Madpilot: now tehres things like jack wine xchat needing upgrading
[11:08] <soundray> kkm: the kind of connection you have probably requires you to setup pppoe. I don't know enough about it to help you, but you can try and find out from your Windows setup whether that is true.
[11:08] <elkbuntu_> Jewishbob, breezy badger (5.10) or dapper drake (6.04)?
[11:08] <Jewishbob> BB
[11:09] <Madpilot> damian_, that should be fine - what's the exact message you're getting?
[11:09] <kkm> soundray: And also they suggested i type this but it was no good unless my network was up ??  "/etc/init.d/networking restart"
[11:09] <soundray> kkm, also, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[11:09] <Jewishbob> i am not sure if i burned it correctly but i mounted it on alcohol 120% as well
[11:09] <kkm> soundray: ok thnx
[11:09] <Jewishbob> it autoburned on nero
[11:09] <damian_> madpilot: something about being malicious and viruses and being unsafe and such
[11:10] <damian_> madpilot: should all be fine
[11:10] <soundray> kkm: this is only good if you have a full router. With your setup (Ethernet modem), that by itself won't help.
[11:10] <kkm> soundray: ok
[11:10] <Madpilot> damian_, I'm not sure - but if all you've activated are Ubuntu's Universe & Multiverse repos, you should be fine
[11:10] <soundray> FUSK: working?
[11:11] <Jewishbob> elkbuntu,madpilot: any clue?
[11:11] <Madpilot> Jewishbob, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto - ISOs need to be burned differently from regular stuff
[11:12] <damian_> madpilot: tthanks
[11:12] <Madpilot> damian_, np
[11:12] <FUSK> soundray it looks better, but now it tells me that there is no files to extract.
[11:12] <FUSK> so maybe the rarfile is dead..
[11:12] <Jewishbob> madpilot so what does that ISO recorder do?
[11:12] <damian_> hmm now this seems broken any ideas, or shouldnt that matter cos the cd's not in?
[11:12] <damian_> cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[11:12] <damian_> cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[11:13] <damian_> sorry didnt realise i was pasting so much
[11:13] <Madpilot> damian_, remove the CD from your sources
[11:13] <soundray> FUSK: you have to cd to the directory where the file is.
[11:13] <damian_> oh must have accidentally done that np
[11:13] <FUSK> soundray, I am, thats the strange part
[11:14] <Madpilot> Jewishbob, I've never used any of XP's burning tools myself - someone else is going to have to help you with that
[11:15] <soundray> FUSK, try this: type 'unrar e Krs' then hit Tab to see if it completes the filename for you.
[11:15] <damian_> madpilot: can i add rpm repositories? would that amke them show up as "Converted with alien" or whatever it says
[11:15] <Jewishbob> okies
[11:16] <Madpilot> damian_, I'm pretty sure rpm repos would just break your Ubuntu... stick with the official Ubuntu repos
[11:16] <Jewishbob> one more question...
[11:16] <FUSK> Ive just tried the first one again, and saw this: Krs-One-1995-Krs-One.rar is not RAR archive. When im only tabbing Krs, its just tell me that it cannot open.
[11:16] <damian_> "jewishbob" theres a program nero i believe its available for windows too?
[11:16] <Jewishbob> will this wipe my harddrive?
[11:16] <Jewishbob> i gots nero
[11:17] <damian_> madpilot: but they would work and show up in synaptic or apt?
[11:17] <CNKRTDSKO> ifi put a partition on my harddrive...jsut to back up mp3's then install ubuntu can i just copy the mp3's from the other partition then delete it?
[11:17] <Madpilot> damian_, I doubt it
[11:17] <soundray> FUSK: it must have got corrupted, or you downloaded it incomplete.
[11:17] <damian_> because theres one package i need then ill remove them
[11:17] <FUSK> hmm, i see
[11:17] <damian_> wont ok np
[11:18] <FUSK> sad
[11:18] <damian_> thanks
[11:18] <FUSK> but thanks for the help!
[11:18] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: at the moment, have you got just one big Windows partition?
[11:18] <CNKRTDSKO> yeah. 120 gig hardrive. nothing else on it but windows
[11:19] <Madpilot> Jewishbob, one of Ubuntu's install options will reformat your entire harddrive, but you can partition during install as well
[11:19] <CNKRTDSKO> in the end, i want it to be JUST ubuntu
[11:19] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: and how much data is on it?
[11:19] <Madpilot> Jewishbob, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[11:19] <CNKRTDSKO> not alot....maybe 15 gigs
[11:19] <CNKRTDSKO> i have everything i need backed up, except my mp3s. and i dont want to lose those, cuz ripping them from cd took days
[11:19] <damian_> CNKRTDSKO: resize it to 15 gig then and install linux to the second youll be able to do reverse then once your in linux
[11:20] <CNKRTDSKO> wait hold on...i dont know how to do that
[11:20] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO, I suggest you do this: let the Ubuntu installer shrink your Win partition to maybe 25 GB. When you're done installing, copy the MP3s over and format the Windows partition.
[11:20] <CNKRTDSKO> hmm...
[11:20] <AdamN> hey everyone i need a lil help
[11:20] <damian_> CNKRTDSKO: partition magic
[11:21] <CNKRTDSKO> ok cool. i have that lying around somewhere
[11:21] <AdamN> with ubuntu gnome 5.10
[11:21] <soundray> damian_, CNKRTDSKO, Partition Magic is not recommended.
[11:21] <CNKRTDSKO> oh
[11:21] <CNKRTDSKO> then what is?
[11:21] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: the ubuntu installer is very good at resizing.
[11:21] <damian_> soundray? yes it is
[11:21] <damian_> soundray sorry i didnt know
[11:22] <damian_> :0 things have come a long way since i used linux for 8 months 2 years ago
[11:22] <CNKRTDSKO> ok cool, but my other concern now is, once i resize, and install ubuntu on the other partition, will i be able to get back that little resized partition back? or will it always be there?
[11:22] <Jewishbob> meh ill just have them send me a disk
[11:22] <damian_> yes
[11:22] <Elron> hi
[11:22] <Elron> i need some help
[11:23] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: it will always be a partition, but you can use it from Ubuntu.
[11:23] <Jewishbob> go
[11:23] <CNKRTDSKO> oh. boo.
[11:23] <Elron> i try ubuntu and kubuntu
[11:23] <Jewishbob> ok
[11:23] <damian_> CNKRTDSKO: you can make it free space then merge that back into your ext3 or reiser
[11:23] <CNKRTDSKO> what if i just burn all those mp3's?...it would take alot more time, but i wouldnt have a partition right?
[11:23] <Elron> but the wifi don't run in any of this
[11:24] <Elron> waht i must to do
[11:24] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: you could use it for an emergency parallel install, or you could install pre-release versions on it for testing.
[11:24] <Jewishbob> elron: specify "any of this"
[11:24] <Elron> ubuntu of kubuntu
[11:24] <CNKRTDSKO> true..
[11:24] <Elron> sorry
[11:24] <Elron> xDDD
[11:24] <AdamN> anyone i need help?
[11:24] <Elron> Ubuntu, and kubuntu
[11:25] <CNKRTDSKO> but if i have two partitions, one with windows, and one with ubuntu, wouldnt i have a dual-boot situation?
[11:25] <Elron> i test 5.10 version
[11:25] <damian_> whats the difference between ubuntu's?
[11:25] <jerusalem> anyone got a suggestion for something besides totem to play mms:// links?
[11:25] <Jewishbob> elron: i am having same problem
[11:25] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: you would, until you let Ubuntu format the Windows partition.
[11:25] <damian_> breezey badger and the other one
[11:25] <Elron> but seems that my wifi isn't supported
[11:25] <CNKRTDSKO> ahh!! excellent
[11:25] <Jewishbob> elron: you downloaded the ISO file
[11:25] <Elron> yes
[11:26] <Jewishbob> elron: and it wont install?
[11:26] <Elron> my laptop is an Asus A6K Turion 64, 1 Gb ram... etc
[11:26] <Elron> the installation finish
[11:27] <ejofee> when writing a dvd, k3b shows "no info" for both "fifo buffer" and "device buffer". does this mean something bad?
[11:27] <Elron> but later
[11:27] <ejofee> what later?
[11:27] <Jewishbob> elron: ah
[11:27] <Elron> i can't to connect
[11:27] <ejofee> will it be a problem later, if it still persists?
[11:27] <Elron> sorry for my english
[11:27] <Elron> x( i'm spanish
[11:27] <jerusalem> anyone got a suggestion for something besides totem to play mms:// links?
[11:27] <ejofee> s/still//
[11:27] <jerusalem> so jewishbob, are you jewish?
[11:27] <ejofee> jerusalem: vlc or xine or mplayer
[11:27] <AdamN> come on please anyone?
[11:28] <Ng> AdamN: ask a question and if someone can help, they will :)
[11:28] <damian_> no hes africanbob
[11:28] <Elron> i try to use ndiswrapper with the drivers of windows
[11:29] <AdamN> my internet is run through my usb port because i am on adsl and the sofdtware installer i got with my isp isnt linux compatible just mac and windows what do i do to get internet to work on linux?
[11:29] <Elron> but the program say me that this drivers are not his
[11:30] <soundray> Elron: are you running the amd64 version of Ubuntu?
[11:30] <Elron> yes
[11:30] <soundray> Elron: then you will need 64bit Windows drivers.
[11:30] <soundray> Elron: have you got those?
[11:30] <Elron> for linux too?
[11:30] <ompaul> AdamN, in Ubuntu - see if you can fund this modem with System - Administration - Networking
[11:31] <Elron> soundray: for linux too?
[11:31] <ompaul> AdamN, s/fund/find
[11:31] <ejofee> when writing a dvd, k3b shows "no info" for both "fifo buffer" and "device buffer". does this mean something bad?
[11:31] <AdamN> its not a well known modem its just a NTL standard product no make or model
[11:31] <Jewishbob> elron: for NdisWrapper
[11:31] <Elron> mmm
[11:31] <soundray> Elron: someone else with your laptop wrote this page: http://www.phys.uu.nl/~beijeman/ASUS-A6K/submitsample.html
[11:31] <Elron> okey
[11:31] <Fackamato> hi guys
[11:31] <damian_> madpilot: :) so many new things i can apt get now even windows cant install a program with one command
[11:31] <Elron> thnks a lot
[11:32] <damian_> fucking amd
[11:32] <atilla> hello
[11:32] <jerusalem> jewishbob i'm in israel. you're in texas, right?
[11:32] <damian_> fucking mad
[11:32] <Fackamato> Just installed breezy (server install), then installed gnome and stuff, however, I'm getting this error message when logging into gnome:
[11:32] <Jewishbob> jerusalem:yesh
[11:32] <csk89> hi all. i have a PixelView PlayTV pro TV turner installed (model PV-BT878P+). can someone tell me how i can get its driver installed so that it works
[11:32] <atilla> i want to speak in turkish
[11:32] <CNKRTDSKO> anyone know if there are any problems with the D-Link DWL-G122 wireless USB adapter?
[11:32] <damian_> hes TEXASBOB
[11:32] <jerusalem> jewishbob come visit
[11:32] <atilla> is somebody turkish?
[11:32] <Elron> good
[11:32] <jerusalem> we will talk linux
 AdamN, s/fund/find what is that i installed ubuntu for 1st time yesterday and dnt no hardly nothing
[11:33] <Fackamato> http://pastebin.com/576387
[11:33] <Jewishbob> i dunno linux
[11:33] <Jewishbob> tho i am trying to install it
[11:33] <Elron> another question
[11:33] <Jewishbob> but the PC install file didnt work
[11:33] <Jewishbob> go
[11:33] <Elron> wwhy  i don't play mp3??
[11:34] <Elron> the system have sound
[11:34] <Elron> but it can't read mp3
[11:34] <jerusalem> elron you gotta install the right codecs
[11:34] <Elron> yes
[11:34] <jerusalem> jewishbob its great once you get it going
[11:34] <Fackamato> any in my xorg.conf I have this:
[11:34] <soundray> Elron: mp3 is a format that cannot be easily supported by free operating systems.
[11:34] <Jewishbob> yesh even in windows codecs are gifts from god
[11:34] <soundray> !tell Elron about restricted
[11:35] <Elron> that I believed
[11:35] <Fackamato> http://pastebin.com/576388
[11:35] <Fackamato> any ideas?
[11:35] <Jewishbob> jerusalem: ive been wanting to try it out for a while
[11:35] <ompaul> AdamN, s/fund/find s substitute the word fund with the word find in the previous line - therefore you now read it as :) >> in Ubuntu - see if you can find this modem with System - Administration - Networkin
[11:35] <CNKRTDSKO> anyone know if there are any problems with the D-Link DWL-G122 wireless USB adapter?
[11:35] <Elron> someone can give a link to download codecs for ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:36] <Jewishbob> a buddy of mine is running MEPIS and i like it
[11:36] <ompaul> !w32codecs
[11:36] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:36] <Elron> for mp3
[11:36] <Elron> wma
[11:36] <Elron> or similar
[11:36] <ompaul> !enter
[11:36] <Jewishbob> ^^^
[11:36] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:36] <Elron> ok
[11:36] <jerusalem> elron do a google for ubuntu mp3
[11:36] <jerusalem> i play wma and mp3 on my ubuntu
[11:36] <Elron> excellent
[11:37] <jerusalem> does anyone using breezy have a problem w/ FF crashing a lot?
[11:37] <Fackamato> ok I'll try another question then
[11:37] <Fackamato> can anyone help me get fglrx working over here
[11:37] <Fackamato> it's working in 2D but not in 3D
[11:37] <soundray> jerusalem: I used to, until I removed some rogue plugin.
[11:37] <jerusalem> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ elron try there
[11:38] <jerusalem> what was the plugin, do you remember
[11:38] <soundray> !ubuntuguide
[11:38] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:38] <Jewishbob> so does everything you do in linux have to be a command line or is that just installing
[11:38] <soundray> jerusalem: some free Flash implementation
[11:38] <jerusalem> once you get ubuntu up and going its all GUI jewishbob
[11:38] <jerusalem> ahh soundrraay
[11:38] <jerusalem> thanks
[11:38] <Fackamato> http://pastebin.com/576390 <- see that log.
[11:38] <Alexi5> hello
[11:38] <Elron> great
[11:38] <Elron> well
[11:39] <Alexi5> is there any download managers in ubuntu
[11:39] <Jewishbob> enter...the new space
[11:39] <Elron> thanks for all
[11:39] <soundray> Alexi5: apt-cache search download manager
[11:41] <Jewishbob> well i just ordered a CD i think
[11:41] <Jewishbob> later
[11:42] <NET||abuse> hmm, i need to do a defrag and a scandisk on a server box.
[11:42] <giany911> ok who can help me a little ?
[11:42] <NET||abuse> what precautions should i take, it's a web server, been running for 2.5 years
[11:43] <soundray> NET||abuse: are you sure you are in the right forum? Linux filesystems do not need defragmenting.
[11:43] <SirKillalot> NET||abuse, filesystem?
[11:43] <soundray> giany911: if you ask a question, someone might try.
[11:43] <asix> hi
[11:43] <NET||abuse> hehe, this is recomendation from the hosting company
[11:43] <giany911> oh ok
[11:43] <AdamNB> ompaul i attached my usb to my laptopo where the linux is installed to and i did nothing so i went to Admin > Networking and it did nothing
[11:43] <giany911> i installed kde ..but i dont know how to start it :|
[11:43] <SirKillalot> NET||abuse, as he said, they really dont need to be defraged
[11:43] <asix> how do i view the list of instructions to execute when i do 'shutdown' ?
[11:43] <NET||abuse> ok, it's ext3
[11:44] <soundray> giany911: in the login screen, you should be able to select a session.
[11:44] <ompaul> AdamN, what is the name of that "modem"?
[11:44] <giany911> ok ty
[11:44] <AdamNB> ompaul it doesnt have one because its a standard NTL issued modem
[11:44] <rel> hi, installed dapper i386 on a amd64 machine. and alot of application segfault. firefox, epiphany don't work at all. even apt segfaults when run from CLI. what could cause these?
[11:44] <jacquesmerde> woohoo, screen is a default package in ubuntu...that's MY kind of distro!
[11:45] <cafuego> dapper being unstable?
[11:45] <ompaul> cafuego, you don't say
[11:45] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:45] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[11:45] <rel> cafuego: would it. have it run on a centrino laptop perfectly stable
[11:45] <Alexi5> ubuntu is great
[11:46] <Alexi5> lots of software at your finger tips
[11:46] <ompaul> AdamN, okay on that modem is there a port on it that looks like a phone socket only more wires?
[11:46] <soundray> NET||abuse: the hosting company seems to be employing an MSCE...
[11:46] <cafuego> rel: dapper? No.
[11:46] <soundray> NET||abuse: ext3 doesn't fragment, except in very unusual circumstances.
[11:47] <NET||abuse> SirKillalot; he, i had a feeling.
[11:47] <NET||abuse> SirKillalot: the guy who runs the place is all about windows IIS
[11:47] <redblade> I'm setting up a website plays music but I need Quicktime to play it
[11:47] <AdamNB> ompaul what you mean my modem is adsl so it does infact run through my phoneline then to my modem then from my modem tomy pc through usb
[11:47] <SirKillalot> NET||abuse, hehe :)
[11:47] <rel> cafuego: well, maybe then. wonder how the final release will be. I'm patient :)
[11:47] <soundray> NET||abuse: these circumstances are so rare that you are best advised to create a new partition and copy the old stuff over to the new one.
[11:47] <NET||abuse> SirKillalot: the only this is in /var/log/messages i'm getting hda crc errors
[11:47] <redblade> What can I use? instead?
[11:47] <AdamNB> ompaul so there is no other wires other than them 2
[11:48] <NET||abuse> SirKillalot: ummm, ok, english at good i am
[11:48] <soundray> NET||abuse: after which everything will be defragmented.
[11:48] <NET||abuse> SirKillalot: heh, i'm getting crc errors on hda,
[11:48] <redblade> I installed mplayer and firefoxplugin from repositories but no luck
[11:48] <NET||abuse> SirKillalot: so i think i'll need to run a scandisk of some sort
[11:49] <soundray> NET||abuse: sounds like a hardware problem to me.
[11:49] <soundray> giany911: did it work?
[11:49] <NET||abuse> ensim1 kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
[11:50] <ompaul> AdamN, okay I was hoping it had an ethernet port, is there a model number, I suspect it is rebadged from something else, can you check the base for a model number please
[11:50] <NET||abuse> unfortunately this isn't a raided server :(
[11:50] <brkndapper> If I'm going to CHROOT from a live CD to a local install do I need to mount proc in /mnt/ubuntu/proc ?
[11:50] <giany911> soundray yep
[11:50] <NET||abuse> raid was too expensive for my friend who's server it is, he's just a graphics man
[11:50] <AdamNB> ompaul its a Thomson SpeedTouch 330
[11:50] <AdamNB> thats the mak and model
[11:51] <soundray> NET||abuse: get a new hard disk before it dies on you.
[11:51] <NET||abuse> oh, is there any disk health checks we can do to confirm this so we can claim against the hosting company?
[11:51] <SirKillalot> NET||abuse, yep do a scandisk
[11:51] <redblade> What will be able to play audio on a website?
[11:51] <NET||abuse> they say if we have confirmation of errors on disk.
[11:51] <NET||abuse> no command called scandisk
[11:51] <SirKillalot> but that should be done with every 30th mount or so
[11:51] <soundray> NET||abuse: smartmontools perhaps
[11:52] <NET||abuse> smartctl and smartd
[11:53] <NET||abuse> SirKillalot: this box hasn't been rebooted in a year, and only twice before that
[11:53] <cafuego> NET||abuse: The more or less equivalent of scandisk is 'fsck'.
[11:53] <brkndapper> If I'm going to CHROOT from a live CD to a local install do I need to mount proc in /mnt/ubuntu/proc ?
[11:53] <NET||abuse> ahhhhhhh, that's it.. i've seen that before, cheers cafuego
[11:53] <SirKillalot> NET||abuse, yea, that is what I'm trying to reach with my home system
[11:53] <cafuego> brkndapper: That would be helpful, yes.
[11:53] <soundray> cafuego: did you see he's getting "DriveStatusError BadCRC" errors?
[11:53] <brkndapper> cafuego: cool thanks
[11:53] <NET||abuse> heheheh, i don't wanna do that.... WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
[11:53] <cafuego> NET||abuse: You MUST UNMOUNT the partition before running fsck on them.
[11:53] <killroy> can somebody help  i can not open .deb and .rpm packages
[11:54] <NET||abuse> cafuego: it's the / partitions
[11:54] <NET||abuse> partition even....
[11:54] <cafuego> NET||abuse: Remount it read-only first.
[11:54] <SirKillalot> NET||abuse, do you have physical access?
[11:54] <CNKRTDSKO> anyone know if there are any problems with the D-Link DWL-G122 wireless USB adapter?
[11:54] <cafuego> soundray: Eww, broken cable eh
[11:54] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: do you know the chipset in that?
[11:54] <CNKRTDSKO> no, how do i check?
[11:55] <Alexi5> linux is great
[11:55] <Alexi5> tons of free software
[11:55] <tempmanhelpme> is there a version of WINE that runs on ubuntu
[11:55] <SirKillalot> yes
[11:55] <cafuego> !info wine
[11:55] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[11:55] <ejofee> tempmanhelpme: you're kidding, right?
[11:56] <redblade> Does anyone kknow?
[11:56] <redblade> I need to run Sound Files!
[11:56] <SirKillalot> redblade, that will be impossible
[11:56] <redblade> why?
[11:56] <tempmanhelpme> ejofee: why would i be kidding?
[11:56] <NET||abuse> SirKillalot: i can get physical access outside of office hours, i'm in my normal job at themoment
[11:56] <SirKillalot> redblade, there's no machine code in them...
[11:56] <tempmanhelpme> ubotu: thank you
[11:56] <ubotu> tempmanhelpme: pas de quoi
[11:57] <CNKRTDSKO> soundray: do you know how i can check which chipset i have?
[11:57] <killroy> onko suomalaisia?
[11:57] <djkrikke> hello
[11:57] <SirKillalot> redblade, you could try to PLAY sound files
[11:57] <djkrikke> what command to use to reconfigure the packet installation at the begin of a new installation
[11:57] <ejofee> tempmanhelpme: ubuntu is the distro which has the biggest number of packages of all distros (same as debian). did you actually believe it was possible that it didn't include *any* version of wine?
[11:57] <SirKillalot> dpkg-reconfigure @ djkrikke
[11:58] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: no, three different devices have been sold under the same model name.
[11:58] <djkrikke> just
[11:58] <djkrikke> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:58] <djkrikke> nothing else
[11:58] <CNKRTDSKO> oh boo
[11:58] <SirKillalot> and the package name
[11:58] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: you may be able to find out from your Windows installation.
[11:58] <redblade> SirKillalot, very funny.
[11:58] <CNKRTDSKO> let me check..
[11:58] <djkrikke> the first thing that shows up on a new installation
[11:58] <djkrikke> what's the name
[11:58] <Seveas> CNKRTDSKO, lspci should help too
[11:58] <elgranloky> someone speak spanish?
[11:58] <djkrikke> where it installs the packages
[11:58] <Seveas> !es
[11:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:58] <SirKillalot> elgranloky, #ubuntu.esp or .sp or something?
[11:58] <cafuego> djkrikke: Pretty much everyone in spain and most people in south america.
[11:58] <soundray> Seveas: for a USB card?
[11:58] <tempmanhelpme> ejofee: well sorry, i am new to linux, just moved over from the dreaded win32 platform. i am sorry if i have offend your superior knowlage of linux with my pathetic question.
[11:59] <elgranloky> ok tnks
[11:59] <curley_sue> HELP I trying to get my modem to work. can anyone help me figuring out what am I supposed to do? (pls find ModemData.txt generated by modemscan in: ) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9522
[11:59] <redblade> SirKillalot, seriously though how can I play them?
[11:59] <cafuego> djkrikke: Were you after anyone in particular?
[11:59] <CNKRTDSKO> Seveas:  lspci?
[11:59] <SirKillalot> redblade, with a sound player?!?!?
[11:59] <djkrikke> well
[11:59] <Wolfensteijn> heh, this is the first time ever that I feel confident about being able to use a linux installation :)
[11:59] <djkrikke> he was installing xserver-xorg
[11:59] <djkrikke> but didn't continue
[11:59] <djkrikke> so i rebooted
[11:59] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: you aren't running Ubuntu yet, are you?
[11:59] <redblade> SirKillalot, embeded sound?
[11:59] <Seveas> CNKRTDSKO, aplications  accessories  terminal, enter the command 'lspci'
[11:59] <redblade> SirKillalot, I think not
[11:59] <djkrikke> and now it quits the packet installation
[11:59] <CNKRTDSKO> soundray: no, not yet
[11:59] <Fackamato> Hi, can anyone help me with my fglrx Radeon driverp roblem?
[11:59] <djkrikke> so how to redo it :P
[11:59] <Seveas> CNKRTDSKO, ah, nvm then 
[11:59] <Fackamato> http://pastebin.com/576416 <- that's some information and the log.
[11:59] <CNKRTDSKO> soundray: im burning it as we speak
[12:00] <cafuego> djkrikke: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:00] <djkrikke> ok
[12:00] <cafuego> djkrikke: That will continute aborted stuff. Otheriwse  'dpkg dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[12:00] <csk89> can someone please tell how does one convert .tar.bz2 to .deb using dh-make
[12:01] <djkrikke> but you don't understand
[12:01] <djkrikke> the first time you boot up a new ubuntu installation
[12:01] <djkrikke> he installs lots of packages, yes?
[12:01] <Fackamato> http://pastebin.com/576418 <- that's the config..
[12:01] <ejofee> tempmanhelpme: no, don't get me wrong, that was not an offense at all, let alone "on my/our superior knowledge of gnu/linux"! it was just that it sounded funny to ask if a gnu/linux package quite popular like wine is available for ubuntu.
[12:01] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: if you look in System-Device Manager, you may find a hint.
[12:01] <dejx> good day
[12:01] <djkrikke> how do I restart the package-selection
[12:02] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: judging by the info in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards, it's not going to be easy.
[12:02] <CNKRTDSKO> soundray: i looked....no luck, unless im just not looking hard enough
[12:02] <dejx> is there anyway to configure my eth via console?
[12:02] <AdamNB> how do you get icons into bottom middle of screen like mac?
[12:02] <Seveas> dejx, man ifup; man interfaces
[12:02] <djkrikke> #
[12:02] <djkrikke> After this, a set of packages suitable for ordinary desktop use will be automatically installed. In the process, depending on your graphics card and monitor, one or two questions may be asked about the kind of graphics card you have and the screen resolution you would like to use.
[12:02] <Seveas> djkrikke, what do you mean?
[12:02] <dejx> thank you
[12:02] <djkrikke> that's what I mean
[12:02] <djkrikke> #
[12:02] <djkrikke> After this, a set of packages suitable for ordinary desktop use will be automatically installed. In the process, depending on your graphics card and monitor, one or two questions may be asked about the kind of graphics card you have and the screen resolution you would like to use.
[12:02] <Alexi5> are there any good cd recording software for gnome
[12:03] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: do you have a D-Link directory under Program Files ?
[12:03] <elkbuntu_> djkrikke stop that
[12:03] <djkrikke> sorry
[12:03] <curley_sue> pls help - how do I get my modem to work?
[12:03] <djkrikke> xserver-xorg was installting
[12:03] <dejx> no manual entry for ipup
[12:03] <CNKRTDSKO> yes
[12:03] <dejx> :/
[12:03] <djkrikke> but it hung
[12:03] <djkrikke> so I rebooted
[12:03] <dejx> oh.. ifup. sorry
[12:03] <Seveas> ah
[12:03] <djkrikke> and now it doesn't continue the default package installation
[12:03] <Fackamato> anyone willing to help?
[12:03] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: find a .sys file in there. What's it called?
[12:03] <Seveas> djkrikke, alternate between dpkg --configure --pending; dpkg --configure -A; apt-get -F install and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <redblade> Anyone? HOW CAN I PLAY SOUND FILES FROM A WEBSITE?
[12:04] <Seveas> red-tag, drop the caps
[12:04] <djkrikke> ok thx
[12:04] <Seveas> redblade*
[12:04] <elkbuntu_> redblade not with capslock on
[12:04] <CNKRTDSKO> soundray: no .sys file
[12:04] <CNKRTDSKO> OH
[12:04] <redblade> Sorry
[12:04] <dejx> aha, ok i get it:) ok just one more, how do i check my battery status via console?
[12:04] <redblade> I need help though
[12:05] <CNKRTDSKO> soundray: it says PRISMA02.sys
[12:05] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: that's good news. Ubuntu will probably recognize and support it "out of the box".
[12:05] <CNKRTDSKO> w00t w00t HIGH FIVES FOR EVERYONE!!
[12:06] <djkrikke> dkpg --configure --pending is doing it
[12:06] <djkrikke> but
[12:06] <dejx> low five.
[12:06] <CNKRTDSKO> oh man...that took a load off....i have been reading all about these other chipsets, and i see nothing but problems...hopefully this goes well
[12:06] <djkrikke> font config error, cannot load default config
[12:06] <CNKRTDSKO> ok, low five for dejx
[12:06] <Fackamato> Anyone willing to help me with breezy + ATi/fglrx?
[12:07] <Seveas> djkrikke, does it bail out after that error?
[12:07] <djkrikke> no
[12:07] <Seveas> !tell Fackamato about ati
[12:07] <djkrikke> it refreshes the cache
[12:07] <Fackamato> It's installed and all, but doesn't give me hardware acceleration of 3D.
[12:07] <soundray> redblade: what type of sound file is on that web page?
[12:07] <Seveas> djkrikke, that's not abnormal during install 
[12:07] <djkrikke> but every time a font installs, he errors it
[12:07] <djkrikke> ok
[12:07] <CNKRTDSKO> ok, im going to install....see you all later
[12:07] <CNKRTDSKO> thanks for all your help :)
[12:07] <dejx> CNKRTDSKO middle fivee!
[12:07] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: good luck.
[12:07] <redblade> soundray, embeded mp3
[12:08] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: hold on
[12:08] <CNKRTDSKO> ok
[12:08] <Seveas> redblade, install mplayer-mozilla and w32codecs
[12:08] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: don't make the mistake of activating LVM on your first install :)
[12:08] <redblade> ok
[12:08] <CNKRTDSKO> LVM?
[12:09] <CNKRTDSKO> *is scared*
[12:09] <Fackamato> Seveas: sorry, that doesn't help me at all.
[12:09] <ompaul> AdamNB, sorry I can't find anything on that modem that is useful
[12:09] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: Logical Volume Manager. It's a good idea in principle, but while you are gathering first experiences, it's better to go with a regular fixed-partitions setup.
[12:09] <Fackamato> I need someone to help me troubleshoot it, looking at the log for example. Thanks..
[12:09] <CNKRTDSKO> wow...you lost me. but ok
[12:10] <csk89> can someone please tell how does one convert .tar.bz2 to .deb
[12:10] <djkrikke> pfff
[12:10] <Seveas> Fackamato, pastebin the log
[12:10] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: just say no to LVM during the install.
[12:10] <djkrikke> having to many errors
[12:10] <AdamNB> ompaul you know how to get the icons on desktop like mac?
[12:10] <djkrikke> guess the installation will fail
[12:10] <CNKRTDSKO> yes dear
[12:10] <CNKRTDSKO> lol
[12:10] <tk> LVM is used for when your drive in primarly used for files 4+megs in size isnt it?
[12:10] <kbrooks> csk89, cant
[12:10] <ardchoille> CNKRTDSKO: lol
[12:10] <ompaul> AdamNB, no but if you asked the channel someone would, I was going to suggest talking to your local lug
[12:10] <kbrooks> tk: no, LVM is NOT a filesystem
[12:11] <dejx> So nobody is having laptop and ubuntu installed on?
[12:11] <soundray> tk: LVM is good if you have more than one disk and want to partition it with lots of flexibility.
[12:11] <csk89> how would u install mythtv on ubuntu
[12:11] <soundray> s/it/them
[12:11] <AdamNB> i have laptop and have dual boot
[12:11] <CNKRTDSKO> ok. so decline LVM (that asshole)
[12:11] <tk> I didnt say its a filesystem
[12:11] <Fackamato> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/576428
[12:11] <kbrooks> CNKRTDSKO, language
[12:11] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: language!
[12:11] <Seveas> dejx, that's not true, I'm at a laptop right now
[12:11] <dejx> AdamNB: how do you check bat. status in console
[12:11] <CNKRTDSKO> AHHH sorry. didnt know
[12:11] <CNKRTDSKO> my bad ya'll
[12:11] <AdamNB> ompaul:lug?
[12:11] <soundray> kbrooks, :)
[12:11] <AdamNB> ompaul lug?
[12:11] <redblade> Seveas, where are w32codecs?
[12:11] <kbrooks> soundray, ?
[12:11] <Seveas> CNKRTDSKO, we like to keep this channel family-friendly 
[12:11] <ompaul> AdamNB, your in birmingham am I right?
[12:11] <tk> soundray, ok so its not like a setting a larger cluster size then
[12:11] <Seveas> !w32codecs
[12:11] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:11] <AdamNB> no
[12:11] <ompaul> AdamNB, linux user group
[12:11] <jos> i have a vaio z600
[12:11] <CNKRTDSKO> good-enough. i apologize.
[12:12] <dejx> (i'm not having x, i mean i dont run it)
[12:12] <soundray> tk, no.
[12:12] <soundray> !lvm
[12:12] <ubotu> methinks lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[12:12] <ompaul> AdamNB, ahh not reading your ip right so :)
[12:12] <kbrooks> CNKRTDSKO, you did. ;)
[12:12] <Fackamato> Seveas: sorry, it got chopped.. here's the new one: http://pastebin.com/576432
[12:12] <AdamNB> ompaul im in nottingham
[12:12] <dejx> on my opinion battery will work longer, am i right?
[12:12] <ompaul> http://www.nottingham.lug.org.uk/
[12:12] <CNKRTDSKO> ok, well its 6:12AM, im going to mcdonalds for some eats, then i will install...cant compute on an empty stomache now can we?
[12:12] <fatbrain> how can I start up my usb mouse from within ubuntu?
[12:12] <ompaul> AdamNB, meeting tomorrow go have a chat with them
[12:12] <AdamNB> lol
[12:12] <tk> so before I go hunting again on the forums, anyone around that might know why I keep losing my audio output? sound plays at logon/logout but it seems to die after Totem is used and stays dead
[12:12] <kbrooks> dejx, maybe. but generally, no.
[12:12] <soundray> CNKRTDSKO: while your mending your ways, think about a lowercase nick as well :)
[12:13] <curley_sue> pls help - how do I get my modem to work?
[12:13] <soundray> s/your/you are/
[12:13] <CNKRTDSKO> ok
[12:13] <ompaul> AdamNB, it is how Linux works
[12:13] <dejx> hm
[12:13] <dejx> huh
[12:13] <dejx> then i'll run X
[12:13] <tk> and soundray reading the link now :)
[12:13] <kbrooks> soundray, "you're".
[12:13] <cnkrtdsko> betteR?
[12:13] <Seveas> Fackamato, (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[12:13] <Seveas> Fackamato, check your driver
[12:13] <kbrooks> cnkrtdsko, heh.
[12:13] <Seveas> how did you install it?
[12:13] <kbrooks> cnkrtdsko, yes
[12:13] <cnkrtdsko> it stands for ConkreteDisko
[12:13] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: commendable, laudable.
[12:14] <cnkrtdsko> laudable?
[12:14] <ompaul> cnkrtdsko, well done
[12:14] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: amicable, affable.
[12:14] <cnkrtdsko> soundray....did you take my pants again?
[12:14] <Fackamato> Seveas: yeah, I find that strange since I followed this guide to the letter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[12:14] <Seveas> soundray, did you read too much of the word-of-the-day toiletpaper?
[12:14] <cnkrtdsko> hahahahaha
[12:14] <Seveas> Fackamato, forum guides tend to be quite bad
[12:14] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: go boot your freshly made installer now! :)
[12:15] <elkbuntu_> Fackamato, the kernel has probably changed since that guide too
[12:15] <ompaul> Fackamato, wiki.ubuntu.com works better
[12:15] <cnkrtdsko> ok.
[12:15] <Seveas> Fackamato, and that guide is quite crackful
[12:15] <curley_sue> pls help - how do I get my modem to work?
[12:15] <cnkrtdsko> talk to you all in a bit. hopefully on ubuntu. none of this windows garbage...
[12:15] <csk89> how does one install a tar.bz2 file in ubuntu?
[12:15] <Fackamato> aw crap.
[12:15] <elgranloky_> someone can help me?
[12:15] <Seveas> csk89, unpack it, read the README and INSTALL files
[12:16] <ompaul> !tell Fackamato about ati
[12:16] <Seveas> !tell elgranloky_ about someone
[12:16] <ompaul> Fackamato, read the link the bot send you
[12:16] <soundray> csk89: tar jxvf file.tar.bz2
[12:16] <kbrooks> csk89, you cant convert tar.bz2 to .deb magically. like, you have to do it yourself
[12:16] <Fackamato> ompaul: yeah.
[12:17] <xukun> can I ask about dapper on this channel?
[12:17] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:17] <ubotu> [dapper]  pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[12:17] <soundray> xukun: you can, but you will be kickbanned
[12:17] <soundray> just kidding.
[12:17] <tk> hmmm ok, can anyone tell me how to re init my snd card?
[12:17] <ardchoille> lol
[12:18] <soundray> tk: the sure way is to cold-boot.
[12:19] <tk> soundray, : obvsiouly, but I'd like to troubleshoot my problem a bit more rather than reboot after every movie I watch ;)
[12:19] <elgranloky_> i have a problem with compile a new kernel, i have a FATAL at boot in modprobe, modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/<kernel-ver>/modules.dep: no such file or directory;
[12:19] <elgranloky_> but modules.dep is in this directory
[12:19] <Ng> elgranloky_: is it a symlink or something?
[12:19] <soundray> tk: you could also try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop , then sudo rmmod snd-modulename, then reload the module and start alsa again.
[12:20] <Ng> and are you definitely looking in the right kernel-ver directory?
[12:20] <elgranloky_> i compile the kernel with this comand : make-kpkg --append-to-version=.270220064 --initrd kernel_image
[12:20] <elgranloky_> yes the directory is correct
[12:20] <klippo> rightone
[12:20] <stjepan> hi
[12:20] <stjepan> I need aclocal. what package is it?
[12:21] <tk> hmm ok thanks soundray
[12:21] <soundray> stjepan: probably in one of the automake packages.
[12:21] <stjepan> tnx
[12:22] <elgranloky_> after the error of modprobe, insmod looks dont find some modules, but the kernel loads fine.... i dont know why happend this?
[12:22] <athlon> Anyone here know if its possible to run XGL in breezy ?
[12:22] <SiriusA> hi, i cant get eclipse to work on my amd64.... any suggestions? error log: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/304/
[12:23] <xukun> I cant startx after installing dapper on my inspiron 9300 laptop. I did try few things peaple on this channel told me to try like reconfiguring my xserver-xorg but no luck. system just hangs  just before it would startx. I see quite few errors at the beginning but dont know where to look
[12:24] <soundray> athlon: it's probably going to be more difficult than installing dapper.
[12:24] <momo> necesito ayuda, en espaol, si puede ser.
[12:24] <soundray> !es
[12:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:24] <Protocol1> mmm vegi salad with ranch
[12:24] <momo> ok
[12:25] <djkrikke> xukun, most likely this is a display driver problem
[12:25] <djkrikke> are you sure you have chosen the right options
[12:25] <soundray> xukun: try running 'X' and look at the last output, or check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:25] <klark> sdsd
[12:25] <klark> ;l;kl
[12:25] <klark> jkkjkj
[12:25] <elgranloky_> some idea?
[12:26] <soundray> klark: test worked.
[12:26] <juprie> ghdfhdfh
[12:26] <juprie> jghkgh
[12:26] <juprie> gkj
[12:27] <Madeye> guys, I have Linux server at office, all computers connected to internet through it, is there anyway to scan all packets for viruses before sending them to other pcs?
[12:28] <morphix> clamav ?
[12:28] <soundray> Madeye: apt-cache show clamav
[12:29] <xukun> djkrikke, soundray there is no errors that I can see in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Its also not possible to startx becoouse the system hangs before it should startx. I can only boot with recovery mode
[12:29] <Madeye> soundray, morphix clamav for mail only?
[12:30] <cafuego> Madeye: You could run squid as web proxy and make that scan any data users fetch via the web
[12:30] <morphix> clamav isnt mail only
[12:30] <cafuego> Madeye: But actual IP packets, no.
[12:30] <morphix> get smoothwall corp :P
[12:30] <cafuego> Don't use windows, then it's not an issue.
[12:30] <Madeye> cafuego, actually I want to scan their downloads and their recieved emails before sending data to them
[12:31] <soundray> xukun: are you in recovery mode now?
[12:31] <cafuego> Madeye: squid with a filter and clamav on mail should do, then.
[12:31] <cafuego> !info squidguard
[12:31] <ubotu> squidguard: (filter, redirector and access controller plug for Squid), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 128 kB, Installed size: 428 kB
[12:31] <xukun> soundray, yes, but I also have other pc to connect to xchat it that is what you mean
[12:31] <xukun> it that ..
[12:32] <xukun> if that .. ;)
[12:32] <Madeye> cafuego, okay, I'll do it thanks
[12:32] <curley_sue> pls help - how do I get my modem to work?
[12:32] <cafuego> Madeye: Note that you'll need to set the Linux router to FORCE all web traffic through squid (That's trivial do dfo anyway)
[12:33] <Madeye> cafuego, which is better clamav or f-port?
[12:33] <Madeye> prot*
[12:34] <soundray> xukun: are you sure that starting X is the problem
[12:34] <soundray> ?
[12:34] <xukun> soundray, no not at all
[12:34] <soundray> xukun: what's the last thing you see on the screen before it hangs?
[12:35] <xukun> soundray, I realy dont know what is going on and sadly enough my knowlegde is not good enough to look for it
[12:35] <djkrikke> mmm
[12:35] <djkrikke> my boot screen
[12:35] <xukun> soundray, just a sec I will reboot the system then
[12:35] <djkrikke> with loadin modules and other tings
[12:35] <djkrikke> just quits
[12:35] <djkrikke> and goes to terminal
[12:35] <soundray> xukun: hold on...
[12:35] <djkrikke> after loading modules....
[12:36] <djkrikke> it goes to terminal
[12:36] <soundray> !enter
[12:36] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:36] <djkrikke> sorry, is there a configuration for the bootscreen of ubuntu
[12:36] <soundray> xukun: look at /var/log/syslog first.
[12:37] <xukun> soundray,  I ready rebooted it.
[12:37] <soundray> xukun: not to worry then.
[12:37] <soundray> xukun: is it hanging yet?
[12:38] <chaissebabe17> hi
[12:38] <xukun> soundray, yes it hangs bet I just missed that last thing, shall I try again or shall I start with recovery mode and look at syslog?
[12:39] <soundray> xukun: what is is showing right now?
[12:39] <soundray> is it
[12:39] <xukun> soundray, just the grub menu
[12:40] <soundray> xukun: oh, so it reboots automatically?
[12:40] <soundray> xukun: have you ever booted this installation successfully?
[12:40] <xukun> soundray, no I did that becouse all I get is a dark screen
[12:40] <xukun> soundray, no
[12:41] <soundray> xukun: right now, are you on grub?
[12:41] <xukun> soundray, yes
[12:41] <ompaul> soundray, pm?
[12:41] <xukun> soundray, you know this dapper yes?
[12:41] <soundray> xukun: let's try a shot in the dark
[12:41] <soundray> ompaul: yes
[12:41] <ufo> do have to use the sudo and gksudo thing in ubuntu?
[12:41] <xukun> soundray, ok
[12:41] <ardchoille> ufo: it's highly recommended ;)
[12:42] <njan> ufo, yes, sudo and gksudo are what ubuntu uses to allow you to run commands as a superuser.
[12:42] <xukun> soundray, I,m still at the grub menu
[12:42] <soundray> xukun: have you been able to boot breezy before?
[12:42] <daidungsi> hey can i ask you a question ?????
[12:42] <njan> daidungsi, just ask it.
[12:42] <xukun> soundray, yes that works fine
[12:42] <daidungsi> oh thank
[12:42] <ufo> njan: yes i know but how can get rid of shit like that
[12:42] <jc2> What about su root?
[12:42] <njan> ufo, why would you want to?
[12:42] <queuetue> Hi.  When a friend clicks on mailto: urls in firefox, a second instance of Thunderbird is launched.  He thinks he "might have configured something" some time in the past to break this, but has no idea what.  How can this be fixed?  (I don't even know how TB gets picked, really...)
[12:42] <ufo> njan: it shit
[12:42] <daidungsi> i want to know a command to clear screen
[12:42] <jc2> Effectively, the same as sudo?
[12:42] <ufo> njan: its shit
[12:42] <njan> ufo, why?
[12:43] <ompaul> daidungsi, in irc /clear in a terminal clear
[12:43] <daidungsi> oh thanks
[12:43] <ufo> njan: i dont need that kind of things
[12:43] <njan> ufo, why not?
[12:43] <daidungsi> i'm newbies
[12:43] <SiriusA> is there a way to reduce the speed of my nvidia fan? qfan and cool'n'quiet reduce the speed of my cpu fan, but not the fan from my card..... under windows, the card fan runs much more slower..
[12:43] <ufo> njan: im used to do things without it
[12:44] <njan> ufo, so sudo -s to get a root terminal.
[12:44] <njan> or sudo /bin/bash
[12:44] <queuetue> ufo: I hope no one helps you in this quest - running "as root" is 70% of the problem with windows security.
[12:44] <daidungsi> oh sorry
[12:44] <njan> queuetue, technically, it's "developers running as root" ;)
[12:44] <soundray> xukun: I was thinking of trying a boot option, but if this is dapper and breezy works...
[12:44] <daidungsi> i want to clear screen in terminal in linux
[12:45] <njan> daidungsi, then just "clear" on its own.
[12:45] <soundray> xukun: it's probably better to try and find out exactly where it hangs.
[12:45] <queuetue> njan: You discount the cluebies running as root far too heavily. :)
[12:45] <xukun> soundray, sorry I thought you new that I was talking about dapper. my mistake
[12:45] <soundray> xukun: but hit e to edit the boot entry anyway.
[12:45] <xukun> soundray, ok
[12:45] <daidungsi> oh thank njan
[12:45] <soundray> xukun: never mind, I just hadn't considered.
[12:45] <njan> queuetue, on a home desktop I can't fault them, and on a corporate desktop they shouldn't have the choice.. on a home desktop, the data's what's important, not the system. If a malicious app runs as them or as the superuser doesn't matter, if their data is gone, the maximum damage is done, generally.
[12:46] <queuetue> is the mailto: from FireFox a gnome mime issue?  A setting inside FF?
[12:46] <daidungsi> yes
[12:46] <soundray> xukun: do you see the grub boot commands for editing now?
[12:46] <daidungsi> thanks you
[12:46] <xukun> sec
[12:46] <njan> queuetue, but I agree, no-one should really be running as root either way.
[12:46] <queuetue> njan: Most of the spam I spend all day fighting comes from those "non damaging" home computers. :)
[12:46] <xukun> soundray, now I do
[12:46] <njan> queuetue, there's nothing stopping that happening in userspace :)
[12:47] <daidungsi> oh do you use WMware Workstation ????
[12:47] <xukun> soundray, did e and can edit now
[12:47] <queuetue> njan: Ok, point taken.
[12:47] <soundray> xukun: as it is, does the kernel line have a vga option?
[12:47] <njan> queuetue, what we need are public floggings for spammers. :P
[12:47] <daidungsi> how can i connect to window though WMware workstation
[12:48] <xukun> soundray, no
[12:48] <queuetue> njan: or people to stop buying products from them - then they'd just dry up and blow away.
[12:48] <elkbuntu> queuetue, or more things like spampoison.com
[12:48] <soundray> xukun: go to the kernel line and add vga=771 please.
[12:48] <KakiPukul> this is really Ubuntu's help channel... VMware, do a google search or something :)
[12:48] <njan> queuetue, indeed.
[12:48] <daidungsi> sorry
[12:48] <xukun> soundray, done
[12:49] <soundray> xukun: try booting it now.
[12:49] <xukun> ok
[12:49] <queuetue> elkbuntu: Maybe I misunderstand:  Wouldn't spammers just stop following links to spampoison?
[12:50] <elkbuntu> not if there was as many spampoison varieties as spammers ;)
[12:50] <daidungsi> oh how to run a file .tar.gz
[12:50] <KakiPukul> run a tarball?
[12:51] <KakiPukul> haha
[12:51] <xukun> soundray, after booting al I get is a dark screen but I see a lot of activity on the harddisk and then it just stays dark and nothing happens
[12:51] <queuetue> "run" a tar.gz?  Do you mean unpack it, or execute it?  (Because one doesn't make any sense.)
[12:51] <KakiPukul> daidungsi: : try tar xvfz <tarball>
[12:51] <soundray> xukun: is that machine networked?
[12:51] <xukun> soundray, before it wasnt al the way dark
[12:51] <xukun> yes
[12:52] <daidungsi> oh thanks
[12:52] <soundray> xukun: can you ssh into it from where you are chatting?
[12:52] <KakiPukul> or just use Fileroller in GNOME
[12:52] <sovin> urgent!: my wifi nic works when i'm at home in my own lan, but when i boot up at say, the cybercafe i'm in right now -- my laptop doesn't even see the card
[12:52] <sovin> can anyone help me fix it?
[12:53] <KakiPukul> define "see"?
[12:53] <daidungsi> oh kakipukul
[12:53] <njan> sovin, what's different about your setup at home to in the cafe, apart from the fact that it's plugged in somewhere else, and are you positive the card isn't seen?
[12:53] <sovin> kakipukul: it is not detected by the computer.
[12:53] <xukun> soundray, yes, but I think ssh server doesnt start automaticly, when I booted recovery mode I had to do /etc/inid.d/ssh start and then I could ssh it
[12:53] <murf> hello, how can i add other language to ubuntu (gnome)
[12:53] <ardchoille> elkbuntu: the people who run the email harvesting bots can just tell their bots to never visit *.spampoison.*  which they have probably already done
[12:53] <KakiPukul> was it pluygged to the same PC?
[12:54] <queuetue> elkbuntu: Thanks for that - I run a fairly popular directory, and I am going to incorporate spampoison-like ideas into my own site.   (I wish SP would post the list of spam domains for us to use...)
[12:54] <sovin> njan: network-admin > ifconfig doesn't show my wireless nic
[12:54] <xukun> soundray, mybe we have to fix that first?
[12:54] <KakiPukul> murf: : install those language* packages
[12:54] <sovin> while at home it does.
[12:54] <elkbuntu> ardchoille, that's the point. that's why we need more
[12:54] <daidungsi> kakipukul : as you say , i have a program to run ???
[12:54] <soundray> xukun: try anyway -- I think it's just in recovery mode that sshd isn't started automatically.
[12:54] <sovin> kakipukul: it is a laptop.
[12:54] <murf> KakiPukul: you mean fonts for xserver or ... ?
[12:54] <ardchoille> queuetue: http://delhap.tripod.com/  < this is what a friend of mine is doing
[12:54] <elkbuntu> ardchoille, it's hard enough for all of us spam victims to keep up with the spam domains, it'd be just as hard for the spammers to keep up with the 'spampoison' domains
[12:55] <xukun> soundray, port 22: Connection refused
[12:55] <KakiPukul> murf: : the language package, I really meant the language package
[12:55] <xukun> soundray, that is what I get
[12:55] <njan> sovin, what's the output of "ifconfig -a |grep Ethernet" (stick it on pastebin.com)
[12:55] <soundray> xukun: too bad.
[12:55] <ardchoille> elkbuntu: you have a point there
[12:55] <murf> KakiPukul: sorry, what is the name of that package
[12:55] <murf> KakiPukul: could you point me to some example?
[12:55] <soundray> xukun: what happens when you hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 ?
[12:55] <KakiPukul> they starts with the word "language-*"
[12:56] <murf> KakiPukul: ok
[12:56] <murf> KakiPukul: thanks
[12:56] <xukun> soundray, nothing, it seems that the system hangs
[12:56] <sovin> njan: i recieve eth0  Link encap: ethernet Hwaddr: my mac address
[12:56] <KakiPukul> very sensible way of naming a package right. murf?
[12:56] <soundray> xukun: try to do a blind login and run 'ls -R /' to see if that gets you HD activity.
[12:56] <njan> sovin, nothing apart from eth0?
[12:56] <sovin> *njan: that is my integrated ethernet nic though (i'm currently wired into the router directly).. it doesn't list anything besides eth0, no
[12:56] <elkbuntu> ardchoille, i personally use a tinyurl for my spampoison link ;)
[12:57] <arod_> just installed dapper. I'm having a problem with my touchpad. pointer is far too slow to be usable. any hint?
[12:57] <KakiPukul> wifi? checkout if the driver was loaded... lsmod <the driver's name>
[12:57] <njan> sovin, what happens if you unplug and replug the wireless card?
[12:57] <KakiPukul> arod_: : join ubuntu+1 :)
[12:57] <soundray> arod_: try tpconfig
[12:57] <queuetue> elkbuntu: If I was a spammer, that wouldn't stop me - I'd just prevent my spider from following the redirect.
[12:57] <queuetue> s/stop/catch/
[12:57] <arod_> soundray: thanks
[12:58] <sovin> njan: the card lights up appropriately, but the laptop doesn't detect it
[12:58] <njan> sovin, anything new if you dmesg |tail?
[12:58] <B|4ckm0r3> hi all i've a problem with glx programs, every time i try to use a glxprogram (glxinfo to mplayer -vo gl) X crashes, i'm using nvidia-glx from apt (the latest 1.0.8178)
[12:58] <sovin> *njan: if i go into 'device manager' it does show up as an unknown device under the pcicardbus
[12:58] <stjepan> anyone here got working XGL/Compiz with fglrx?
[12:58] <sovin> njan: hold on
[12:58] <elkbuntu> queuetue, they cant afford to do that, considering the number of redirects there are in just common browsing
[12:58] <njan> (or dmesg |tail -n 40)
[12:59] <KakiPukul> 40 lines back :)
[12:59] <xukun> soundray, I have now two good news
[12:59] <daidungsi> thanks
[12:59] <daidungsi> bye
[12:59] <queuetue> elkbuntu: No, I'd block redirects that took me to spampoison.  Not all redirects.  Using a central popular repository just won't work, I'm afraid.
[12:59] <sovin> njan: nope
[12:59] <xukun> soundray, the first is that I can ssh it after rebooting one more time. the second is that blind login do something
[12:59] <queuetue> wpoison
[12:59] <queuetue> wpoiron
[12:59] <KakiPukul> sovin: : do lspci? see anything about your WF card?
[01:00] <queuetue> Sorry about that. :)
[01:00] <queuetue> Mac had window focus issues. :)
[01:00] <soundray> xukun: are you in via ssh now?
[01:00] <sovin> kakipukul: i see the cardbus controller and it's details.  nothing about the card itself
[01:00] <xukun> soundray, I now have some kind of screen with horizantal line above the screen and black and white lines at the botom
[01:00] <xukun> soundray, yes
[01:01] <soundray> xukun: do a ls -rt /var/log/X*
[01:01] <B|4ckm0r3> anyone can help me?
[01:01] <elkbuntu> queuetue, the whole idea is to mix it up a bit. at least that way you catch the lazy spambots
[01:01] <KakiPukul> sovin: : could you state the name of your distro, kernel version, you card brand/type?
[01:01] <soundray> xukun: and see if the log file may be called something other than Xorg.0.log
[01:01] <elkbuntu> queuetue, it'll be a long time before we can stop them all
[01:01] <soundray> B|4ckm0r3: not unless you ask a question.
[01:01] <h3ax> is there any one who knows why Ubuntu refuses to change Keyboard layout settings to Nordic so that i can use    ? witch a special Danish Chars for writing ?
[01:02] <B|4ckm0r3> hi all i've a problem with glx programs, every time i try to use a glxprogram (glxinfo to mplayer -vo gl) X crashes, i'm using nvidia-glx from apt (the latest 1.0.8178)
[01:02] <servjew> hello. im trying to assign a static IP adress to the network card, and tell samba to join a certain workgroup. where are the files i need to edit ?
[01:02] <xukun> soundray,  I get /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:02] <sovin> kakipukul: ubuntu, breezy, kernal 2.6.12-10-386, a linksys wpc11
[01:02] <B|4ckm0r3> the question is:what could be?
[01:02] <ardchoille> elkbuntu: if you have anymore spam fighting techniques, can you PM me with them? I hate spam and would like to do more to fight it.
[01:02] <sovin> version 3
[01:02] <KakiPukul> sovin: : checkout linksys page then...
[01:02] <KakiPukul> I cannot be familiar of all wifi card...
[01:02] <sovin> alrighty -- thanks for the help
[01:02] <soundray> xukun: and Xorg.0.log is empty?
[01:03] <B|4ckm0r3> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so i've noticed that this file is 8174 version
[01:03] <elkbuntu> ardchoille this convo has just inspired me to do my own spambot trap... i'll keep you posted
[01:03] <xukun> soundray, no its vol of staff
[01:03] <ardchoille> elkbuntu: you're not registered with freenode? you can't PM me, but you can join me in #jayden if you want :)
[01:04] <soundray> xukun: what does it say at the end? Could you paste the last 20 lines or so at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org pls
[01:04] <veri> #ubuntu-it
[01:04] <elkbuntu> ah... i am registered i just hadnt identified
[01:04] <elkbuntu> done now though
[01:04] <ardchoille> elkbuntu: great :)
[01:04] <soundray> veri: try /join #ubuntu-it
[01:05] <veri> tnks...
[01:05] <xukun> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9524
[01:06] <soundray> xukun: is that the very end?
[01:07] <xukun> soundray, yes
[01:07] <Protocol1> anyone know a good sight to stream music from?
[01:07] <soundray> xukun: what happens when you issue 'sudo chvt 7' via ssh?
[01:07] <pirate> Is XGL working for AMD64?
[01:07] <Protocol1> site*
[01:07] <soundray> pirate, not here.
[01:07] <pirate> soundray: Where?
[01:08] <soundray> pirate: on my machine. It hangs with a watch icon.
[01:08] <pirate> =/
[01:08] <xukun> soundray, then I see some activity on the harddisk but nothing happens
[01:09] <soundray> xukun: okay, now on the machine itself, try a Ctrl-Alt-+ (where you use the plus on the keypad).
[01:10] <soundray> xukun: anything changed?
[01:10] <xukun> soundray, nothing
[01:11] <soundray> xukun: from the Xorg log, it seems that your X is running. Maybe just confirm this with ps ax | grep X (via ssh)
[01:13] <Very> #ubuntu-it
[01:13] <lrnt> hi
[01:13] <xukun> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9525
[01:14] <andykor> !tell andykor about nvidia
[01:15] <soundray> xukun: yes, your X seems absolutely fine. It's just not displaying on the monitor :)
[01:16] <xukun> soundray, hmmm
[01:16] <soundray> xukun: are you chatting on a Linux machine?
[01:16] <xukun> soundray, yes
[01:16] <xukun> other laptop with ubuntu breezy
[01:18] <indypende> someone can help me whit the wireless connection...
[01:18] <soundray> xukun: this is a difficult one to tackle. You could run 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove', then it wouldn't try to start X on boot.
[01:18] <cnkrtdsko> hello?
[01:18] <indypende> i've already correctly configured my card and networking go ok
[01:18] <xukun> soundray, I have a ati video card, maybe there is somekind of driver installation needed
[01:19] <soundray> xukun: you could then login normally and try to fix your xorg.conf with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[01:19] <soundray> xukun: maybe. Look at ubotu's links:
[01:19] <cnkrtdsko> soundray: well im back. and i think i have a problem. or im just an idiot.
[01:19] <indypende> but i need a gnome gui to use the switch of networks
[01:19] <soundray> !tell xukun about ati
[01:19] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: or both. But let's assume that it's just a problem.
[01:20] <cnkrtdsko> done
[01:20] <xukun> soundray, ok I will try the driver first
[01:20] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: sorry, didn't mean to be rude.
[01:20] <indypende> a nice gui for gnome to manage wifi networks
[01:20] <cnkrtdsko> lol, dont be sorry, it was funny
[01:21] <soundray> cnkrtdsko :) some people would have taken it the wrong way...
[01:21] <cnkrtdsko> anyways, i finished downloading the install iso, and i pop it into my pc and nothing happens, no autoplay or anything, so i explore the cd, and there is no install.exe or setup.exe or anything...
[01:21] <cnkrtdsko> oh, naw, im used to stuff like that, no worries
[01:21] <Gargoyle> Greetings ubuntuians
[01:21] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: you have to boot from it.
[01:21] <cnkrtdsko> like restart my pc with it in the drive?
[01:22] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: set your BIOS to boot off the CD and boot the install system on the CD, bypassing Windows.
[01:22] <queuetue> When a friend clicks on mailto: urls in firefox, a second instance of Thunderbird is launched.  He thinks he "might have configured something" some time in the past to break this, but has no idea what.  How can this be fixed?  (I don't even know how TB gets picked, really...)
[01:22] <Gargoyle> I got 5.10 server installed, but I cannot get package libpam-mysql. Any links on how I change apt-get to get this package.
[01:22] <cnkrtdsko> done and done. i will do that. thanks again :) talk to you in a little bit : D
[01:23] <soundray> Gargoyle: you need to enable the universe repository.
[01:24] <pirate> Why is Dapper giving me bad header lines for my update?
[01:24] <Gargoyle> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe ??
[01:24] <Gargoyle> that one?
[01:24] <soundray> Gargoyle: yes.
[01:24] <pirate> US, I tried UK too bad same result.
[01:25] <pirate> Not breezy... dapper
[01:26] <Gargoyle> Sweet!
[01:26] <ompaul> pirate, if you want to talk about dapper can you move over to #ubuntu+1 please
[01:27] <Gargoyle> inbound and outbound mail sorted... now just have to hook up POP and /or IMAP.
[01:27] <soundray> Gargoyle: fetchmail then.
[01:28] <Gargoyle> I assume that now I have a pam auth module working, anything else that needs authd against mysql can use that?
[01:28] <fatbrain> What's /etc/X11/X suppose to link to?
[01:28] <soundray> fatbrain, here it's /usr/bin/Xorg
[01:28] <pirate> ompaul: Sorry... thansk
[01:28] <Gargoyle> soundray: Is fetchmail a POP3D server, I was reading the docs the other day, and it seems to be some sort of in the middle agent.
[01:28] <fatbrain> soundray: thanks
[01:29] <fatbrain> Anyone of you had problem installing nvidia graphics driver?
[01:29] <fatbrain> I keep getting nvidia.ko no such device error message when I startx
[01:29] <IdleOne> !nvidia
[01:29] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:29] <soundray> Gargoyle: no, it's a client for POP3 and IMAP, feeding the mail to the local MTA.
[01:29] <fatbrain> thanks, I'll be back in a littlebit, as soon as I got X back running
[01:29] <Gargoyle> need a pop3d server.... any suggestions?
[01:30] <andykor> btw, i tried nvidia driver, like written in wiki
[01:30] <Ng> Gargoyle: I like dovecot :)
[01:30] <andykor> and it's just goes black :)
[01:30] <soundray> Gargoyle: qpopper seems to be a standard recommendation.
[01:30] <IdleOne> !postfix
[01:30] <ubotu> IdleOne: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:30] <Martolod> hello all
[01:30] <IdleOne> hello Marticus
[01:30] <IdleOne> Martolod:
[01:31] <Martolod> i'm searching docs about ubuntu
[01:31] <Martolod> like a user guide
[01:31] <IdleOne> Martolod:  wiki.ubuntu.com is a good place
[01:31] <Martolod> i've found this but it isn't very big : http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html
[01:31] <ompaul> Martolod, help.ubuntu.com docs.ubuntu.com wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:31] <Martolod> ok thank you
[01:31] <fatbrain> !nvidia
[01:31] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:32] <andy_> hey :)
[01:32] <IdleOne> np Martolod  if you need anything else just ask ()
[01:32] <IdleOne> heya andy_
[01:32] <andy_> how can i execute a .jar file ?
[01:32] <TylerWalts> java
[01:32] <ompaul> .jar is a zip file from java
[01:32] <IdleOne> take the lid of the jar? lol sorry i dont know androxxl
[01:32] <IdleOne> andy_:
[01:33] <IdleOne> stupid nick completion
[01:33] <IdleOne> morning ompaul  and all btw ()
[01:33] <ompaul> morning IdleOne
[01:33] <TylerWalts> greetings
[01:34] <soundray> IdleOne: completion should default to the nick of the person who last wrote to the channel.
[01:34] <IdleOne> ompaul:  your bills are paid up perhaps
[01:34] <andy_> the lid? O.o
[01:34] <IdleOne> soundray:  not in xchat it doesnt always
[01:34] <ompaul> IdleOne,  all of them :-/
[01:34] <soundray> IdleOne: I know, I was expressing a desire ;)
[01:35] <IdleOne> soundray:  then thats a great idea
[01:35] <fatbrain> this is *funnie* it sais in the wiki that *everyone should install* nvidia-settings, and if you have a newer nvidia card it also states that you should install nvidia-glx, but selecting nvidia-settings forces you to remove nvidia-glx... !? how's that
[01:35] <Ng> fatbrain: that shouldn't be the case
[01:35] <soundray> IdleOne: I can't program. Could you submit a patch?
[01:35] <Ng> fatbrain: you absolutely need nvidia-glx, but nvidia-settings is optional
[01:36] <IdleOne> soundray:  I can send an eye patch..I dont program either :/
[01:36] <fatbrain> Ng: strange way to put it in the wiki.
[01:36] <queuetue> Hrm.  I was just kicked from #firefox on irc.mozilla.org for asking about Firefox under ubuntu...
[01:36] <Martolod> there isn't an ubuntu manual like in debian .
[01:36] <Martolod> ?
[01:36] <queuetue> Did we start a fight with them?
[01:36] <soundray> IdleOne: P-)
[01:37] <IdleOne> queuetue:  what do you need help with?
[01:37] <queuetue> IdleOne, Clicking on a mailto: link from FireFox causes a second thunderbird to launch, prompting for a new profile, etc.  What would cause this, and how can I get it to reuse the existing thunderbird?
[01:37] <Protocol1> that was a pain to get on my ff1.5
[01:38] <andy_> cya
[01:38] <IdleOne> queuetue:  upgrade to firefox 1.5 follow this link
[01:38] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[01:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:38] <soundray> andy_: did it work?
[01:38] <andy_> no
[01:38] <soundray> andy_: java file.jar didn't?
[01:38] <Ng> java -jar file.jar
[01:39] <queuetue> IdleOne: Is this a known problem that can't be fixed in older versions?
[01:39] <Protocol1> then go here to load java   http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142
[01:39] <callan_> I'm having some trouble with xorg and mplayer, i need to enable xv badly but I can't figure out how to.
[01:39] <IdleOne> queuetue:  perhaps but I never used the older versions
[01:39] <Ng> callan_: what happens if you run mplayer with -vo xv  ?
[01:39] <soundray> Thanks Ng. andy_ ^
[01:39] <andy_> i have test . but this is a chat client, ande java -jar file.jar  flood only the bash
[01:40] <andy_> or musst be java installd in /usr ?
[01:40] <callan_> Ng: Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[01:40] <callan_> Same as in gmplayer.
[01:41] <soundray> andy_ let's meet in #ubuntu-de, we can speak German there.
[01:41] <andy_> k ^^
[01:41] <Ng> callan_: does "ps auwx|grep mplayer" show anything? sometimes one can get stuck and hodl the xv port open
[01:41] <Ng> callan_: also you might want to check that "xvinfo" outputs something - ie that you have Xv available
[01:41] <callan_> Ng: No nothing. And xvinfo says no asapters present.
[01:42] !lilo:*! Edited: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#fromunreg to reflect the permanent nature of NOIDPRIVMSG (unregistered user private message blocking) and the "opt in" nature of the feature that allows you to receive blocked messages
[01:42] <Ng> callan_: aha. what graphics card do you have?
[01:42] <callan_> It worked fine in a regular ubuntu install, but now I'm trying a server install with xubuntu-desktop, and it isn't now.
[01:42] <callan_> Ng: Uh... ATI Rage 128 I think.
[01:43] <Morfosomo> callan_, installing a gui defeats the idea of what the server install is supossed to be
[01:43] <pow3r> hi, i have realtek alc850, help please
[01:43] <Ng> callan_: I'd check out which driver X is using, you might be in VESA or something
[01:43] <IdleOne> ompaul:  you got mail
[01:43] <fatbrain> hehe, same error as I've had for the past 4 installations, nvidia.ko no such device :'(
[01:43] <cnkrtdsko> soundray: problems...
[01:43] <callan_> Norfosomo: I realise that, but I wanted a clean install.
[01:43] <sdfzx> hi guyz
[01:43] <ompaul> IdleOne, K
[01:43] !lilo:*! One more slight wording change
[01:44] <callan_> Ng: I know I'm using vesa, I tried ati but it badly screws up resolutions and such.
[01:44] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: what are they?
[01:45] <cnkrtdsko> well. i got the network error..if you want, i'll type it out for you. an the other *major* one is that it wont let me create a partition even though of my 120gigs 87.1 of them are free.
[01:45] <sdfzx> i try to install some programs and codec like madplay and i always get this error
[01:45] <sdfzx> checking for gcc... gcc
[01:45] <sdfzx> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:45] <Ng> callan_: well vesa isn't going to do Xv, so you'll need to use something else. I'm not familiar with ATi cards though. Any idea what you were using before?
[01:45] <sdfzx> can somebody help me?
[01:45] <IdleOne> sdfzx:  sudo apt-get build-essetial
[01:45] <callan_> Ng: No, not sure, is there a list I can look at, or maybe the apm driver supports xv?
[01:45] <IdleOne> sdfzx:  that will fix the gcc eror your getting
[01:45] <sdfzx> ah
[01:45] <sdfzx> okies
[01:45] <Ng> callan_: apm == advanced power management, so no.
[01:46] <sdfzx> ill try it now
[01:46] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: it should offer to resize the big partition for you.
[01:46] <sdfzx> thanks
[01:46] <IdleOne> sdfzx:  then you can try ./configure whatever app it is your trying
[01:46] <soundray> cnkrtdsko, and network wise, you are trying to connect with the Wifi card?
[01:46] <cnkrtdsko> i have tried everything, and it just isnt happening. and i dont want to format over anything, cuz then i will lose windows (for now) which i would need to get on irc.
[01:46] <callan_> Ng: So apm will provide nothing that vesa won't? Not even some extra apm support or something? :S
[01:47] <cnkrtdsko> im connected using my wireless D-Link usb adapter...no card.
[01:47] <sdfzx> i get this message >> E: Invalid operation build-essential
[01:47] <Ng> callan_: I've never seen the apm support load properly
[01:47] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: yeah, card, adapter, interface, whatever.
[01:47] <sdfzx> :(
[01:47] <cnkrtdsko> lol, then yeah. im trying to do that
[01:47] <sdfzx> im a newbie in using this box
[01:47] <IdleOne> !tell cnkrtdsko  about wireless
[01:47] <Protocol1> i just know I am going to have a good time with this next version of ubuntu
[01:47] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: no way to connect an ethernet cable, even temporarily?
[01:47] <callan_> Ng: Well ok but any idea if there's a list I can look at?
[01:48] <IdleOne> sdfzx:  sudo apt-get install build-essential.. my bad sorry :/
[01:48] <soundray> IdleOne: this is on installation.
[01:48] <IdleOne> on installation?
[01:48] <sdfzx> okies
[01:48] <sdfzx> thanks again
[01:48] <sdfzx> ill try it now
[01:48] <IdleOne> np
[01:48] <Protocol1> what will the command be to update to dapper when its official?
[01:48] <Protocol1> i know there is besic version s out there
[01:49] <Protocol1> just curious
[01:49] <IdleOne> Protocol1:  sudo apt-get install DapperRocksBaby!!!!:)
[01:49] <IdleOne> lmao I dont know Protocol1
[01:49] <Protocol1> haha
[01:49] <soundray> Protocol1: apt-get dist-upgrade (after fixing your /etc/apt/sources.list)
[01:49] !lilo:*! one more try....editing code when half-asleep, hmmm....oh well, it got done :)
[01:49] <sdfzx> idleOne can i private you?
[01:49] !lilo:*! s/code/html/
[01:49] <sadi> hi a
[01:50] <IdleOne> sdfzx:  lets chat in here your problem may help others also ()
[01:50] <sdfzx> okies
[01:50] <Protocol1> i'll just get the instructions once dapper is released
[01:50] <sdfzx> thanks again
[01:50] <IdleOne> sdfzx:  you mentioned this is at install..is ubuntu installed yet?
[01:50] <Hentai^XP> anyone used knoppix std?
[01:50] <sadi> deutsche hier???
[01:50] <sdfzx> yep
[01:50] <IdleOne> !de
[01:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:50] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: they will more than likely have a wiki with instructions on it once dapper is released
[01:51] <Protocol1> yeah ok
[01:51] <IdleOne> sdfzx:  pm me
[01:51] <Hobbsee> !tell Protocol1 about upgrade
[01:51] <sdfzx> okits thanks
[01:51] <Protocol1> i wont change my 5.10 version until the next version is official
[01:52] <IdleOne> !tell sdfzx  about register
[01:52] <Protocol1> but thanks
[01:52] <tyler_> hey, how do i get my printer/scanner/fax running, its a brother mfc 5200c
[01:52] <IdleOne> !print
[01:52] <cnkrtdsko> soundray: any ideas as to why it wont let me partition?
[01:52] <ubotu> hmm... print is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[01:53] <quux> Is there an ubuntu or deb equivalent of rpmfind.net ?
[01:53] <triablo_> Hi there!How to update the packages in Synaptic?because my friend doesnt have so many packages then me
[01:53] <quux> I need to find out what if any package would contain libgdbm.so.2
[01:53] <cnkrtdsko> does anyone have have idea why it wont let me partition during the instalation even though i have over 80 gigs free?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> quux: what is rpmfind?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> quux: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:54] <quux> Thanks Hobbsee
[01:54] <Hobbsee> no problems quux
[01:54] <quux> gnomefreak: it is a web repository that lets you search by a particular file, to see what packages contain it
[01:54] <gnomefreak> quux: ahhhh ok ty
[01:55] <gopi> ty
[01:55] <gopi> web repository that lets you search by a particular file, to see what packages contain it
[01:55] <gopi> * knj has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[01:55] <Hobbsee> quux: also, apt-cache search packagename and apt-cache show packagename
[01:55] <gopi> * knj has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[01:55] <gopi> web repository that lets you search by a particular file, to see what packages contain it
[01:55] <gopi> * knj has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[01:55] <gnomefreak> !ops
[01:55] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[01:55] <Hobbsee> gopi: why the spam?
[01:56] <quux> Hobbsee: I need the reverse of that ... name a file and find out what package *contains* that file
[01:56] <gopi> oops sorry !
[01:56] <Hobbsee> quux: packages.ubuntu.com - it has a section for that
[01:56] <G-Mac> does anyone know why it is not letting me parition during installation even though i have over 80 gigs free?
[01:56] <gopi> really sorry by mistake !
[01:56] <Hobbsee> G-Mac: any error messages?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> gopi: you were banned for that same thing were you not?
[01:56] <Hobbsee> gopi: it's ok, just dont repeat it please :P
[01:56] <vincenz> What is ubuntu dapper?
[01:57] <Hobbsee> !tell vincenz about dapper
[01:57] <G-Mac> only the network autoconfiguration failed one. but im not worries about that right now
[01:57] <quux> Ah, well, duh ... all I had to do was scroll ... please award me the idiot of the day ribbon
[01:57] <vincenz> can I go from breezy to dapper  without install cds?
[01:57] <gopi> gnomefreak: no not for that... i was for because of proxy i guess
[01:57] <IdleOne> vincenz:  not yet
[01:57] <vincenz> it has some packages I need
[01:57] <Hobbsee> vincenz: yes, it's called a dist-upgrade
[01:57] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: oh?
[01:57] <vincenz> like libgpod
[01:57] <gopi> Hobbsee: yes i have errors... one sec
[01:57] <IdleOne> !tell vincenz  about flight4
[01:57] <vincenz> and the newest gtkpod (I have a 5th G ipod)
[01:58] <IdleOne> Hobbsee:  perhaps not yet was a baddly worded answer ()
[01:59] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: perhaps.  i'd heard that dist-upgrades were possible using that program.  incredibly unsafe, but possible
[01:59] <blacking> bye all
[01:59] <gnomefreak> dist-upgrade has not been tested as much as it should have been so its kind of a toss of the coin for now
[01:59] <IdleOne> Hobbsee:  thats why I said not yet because of the risks to breaking system
[01:59] <cnkrtdsko> Hobbsee: aside from the network error, i get no errors when trying to partition. it just wont let me. and i have over 80 gigs free
[02:00] <Hobbsee> cnkrtdsko: hmmm...
[02:00] <Hobbsee> IdleOne: true
[02:00] <gopi> Ok here it is... when I try to install mythtv Iam getting errors, I used, sudo apt-get install mythtv
[02:00] <vincenz> so how do I do a dist-upgrade?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> !info mythtv
[02:01] <Hobbsee> !tell vincenz about dapper
[02:01] <vincenz> or it's recommended to wait?
[02:01] <ubotu> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.18.1-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[02:01] <IdleOne> vincenz:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:01] <Toma-> !mythtv
[02:01] <ubotu> hmm... mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[02:01] <cnkrtdsko> Hobbsee: should i jsut use something like partition magic instead?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> gopi: do you have multiverse enabled in the source.list?
[02:01] <Hobbsee> vincenz: see the factoid that ubotu sent you
[02:01] <vincenz> thx
[02:01] <Hobbsee> cnkrtdsko: you could try, 'im not sure
[02:01] <gopi> gnomefreak: yes !
[02:01] <cnkrtdsko> boo...ok
[02:01] <setuid> How do I get nautilus to show drives as icons on the desktop?
[02:02] <setuid> I'm using sawfish as my wm, and this _used_ to work
[02:02] <setuid> Now I see no drives, when I plug in devices
[02:02] <bob_> hello i installed language packages, but the additional lang doesn't work. When envoking login i get message "language cz_CZ.UTF-8 does not exist". What is wrong?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> gopi: waiting for an error here
[02:02] <vincenz> IdleOne: that didn't work "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:03] <gnomefreak> vincenz: you have to change the repos from breezy to dapper or whatever your going to
[02:03] <IdleOne> vincenz:  good then it means your system should be breaking within the next hour or so
[02:03] <vincenz> ah
[02:03] <gopi> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9530
[02:03] <gnomefreak> vincenz: be warned your computer may not work after dist-upgrade
[02:03] <IdleOne> should=shoulnt
[02:03] <vincenz> may not work to what extent?
[02:03] <setuid> Anyone?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> gopi: dapper or breezy?
[02:04] <gopi> gnomefreak: breezy
[02:04] <gnomefreak> vincenz: may not work at all
[02:04] <IdleOne> vincenz:  as in your going to swear we did something to make it break and the hate us :/
[02:04] <gnomefreak> gopi: try sudo apt-get -f install
[02:04] <vincenz> gnomefreak: well yes but for certain specific bordercase scenarios?
[02:04] <bob_> 14:02 < bob_> hello i installed language packages, but the additional lang doesn't work. When envoking login i get message "language cz_CZ.UTF-8 does not
[02:04] <bob_>               exist". What is wrong?
[02:04] <vincenz> gnomefreak: or for the center of the gaussian curve ?
[02:04] <setuid> bob_: No need to repeat
[02:04] <cello_rasp> whats the command for the disk burning dialog?
[02:04] <setuid> bob_: If someone knows, they'll answer.
[02:04] <gnomefreak> vincenz: may not boot (dapper is not stable in any sense of the word)
[02:04] <setuid> cello_rasp: cdrecord
[02:05] <vincenz> damn
[02:05] <gopi> gnomefreak: done... then ?
[02:05] <tk> hey, does Totem have an inherent problem with having audio lag behind video?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> vincenz: dapper will be released in april
[02:05] <vincenz> gnomefreak: is it possible to steal certain packages out of the repo "like libgpod and gtkpod"?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> gopi: did it do anything?
[02:05] <vincenz> gnomefreak: released in april and it's still not halfstable??
[02:05] <cello_rasp> setuid: for gnome
[02:05] <gnomefreak> vincenz: those have not been backported so no
[02:05] <gnomefreak> vincenz: define half stable?
[02:05] <setuid> cello_rasp: xcdroast
[02:05] <vincenz> gnomefreak: you'd think that it'd be at least semistable except for certain borderline cases
[02:06] <gopi> gnomefreak: Reading package lists... Done
[02:06] <gopi> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:06] <gopi> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> vincenz: unstable = may break without notice one day work next day not work
[02:06] <bob_> setuid: hmm
[02:06] <cello_rasp> setuid: the one that comes with gnome . not xcdroast, not gnomebaker
[02:06] <gnomefreak> gopi: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:06] <setuid> gnomefreak: Any idea on my question above?
[02:06] <vincenz> gnomefreak: yes but typically those cases are rare
[02:06] <gnomefreak> vincenz: no they are not rare
[02:06] <setuid> cello_rasp: I have no idea, I don't run gnome (or KDE)
[02:06] <vincenz> crud
[02:06] <vincenz> oh well
[02:06] <gopi> gnomefreak: oh ok !
[02:06] <gnomefreak> vincenz: its not in beta form yet
[02:06] <vincenz> I'll have to boot to winidows then
[02:06] <vincenz> gnomefreak: and they plan to release it in less than 2 months o.O?
[02:07] <setuid> cello_rasp: I prefer cdrecord, its much faster, lower resource utilization, and besides, who wants to "watch" a CD burn?
[02:07] <setuid> vincenz: Of course, dapper rocks
[02:07] <cello_rasp> any gnome users know what the program is when a blank disk is launched?
[02:07] <vincenz> it's not even beta!
[02:07] <setuid> vincenz: Been running it here, works great
[02:07] <setuid> vincenz: Linux doesn't have "beta"
[02:07] <vincenz> you know what I mean
[02:07] <setuid> Well, most Linux applications anyway
[02:07] <setuid> No, actually I don't
[02:07] <vincenz> semistable
[02:07] <setuid> There is no "beta"
[02:07] <setuid> It just is
[02:07] <vincenz> ....
[02:07] <setuid> No, Unstable will ALWAYS be unstable
[02:07] <vincenz> as ini "works in most cases"
[02:07] <gnomefreak> setuid: thats not entirely true since dapper beta is gonna be released on march 23
[02:07] <vincenz> setuid: there are varying degrees of unstability
[02:08] <vincenz> like "will never work" to "will nearly always work"
[02:08] <setuid> vincenz: Depends on context, in this case, no, there are no varying degrees, its very clear cut and dry.
[02:08] <vincenz> I consider "beta" to be on the right side of that scale
[02:08] <setuid> vincenz: Use Breezy
[02:08] <vincenz> setuid:  I need gtkpod that can handle video
[02:08] <setuid> You want stable, working, secure packages... use Breezy
[02:08] <setuid> vincenz: Then build it from source, that's what I do
[02:08] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: sorry, missed a bit. Why can't you shrink your Windows partition with the installer?
[02:08] <setuid> Or build a .deb from the compiled source
[02:08] <vincenz> setuid: I tried, it gave me compile errors
[02:09] <setuid> vincenz: Then fix the compile errors, don't break everything else
[02:09] <Morfosomo> !root
[02:09] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:09] <setuid> gtkpod (from source) and amarok (from source), works great here
[02:09] <vincenz> setuid: parsing errors... I take that to be the root of a deep problem
[02:09] <setuid> vincenz: pastebot them
[02:09] <setuid> vincenz: What was your configure and compile line?
[02:09] <setuid> What CFLAGS?
[02:09] <vincenz> no
[02:09] <setuid> No?
[02:10] <vincenz> somewhere deep "parse error on &&"
[02:10] <vincenz> "parse error on __exception__"
[02:10] <setuid> Ok, if you don't want to solve the problem, and insist on creating 347 others, go ahead.
[02:10] <setuid> pastebot the whole thing
[02:10] <vincenz> setuid: I know c++... I know superficial problems from deep problems
[02:10] <setuid> vincenz: I build software, thousands of times per-week, I'm very good at debugging this...
[02:10] <vincenz> setuid: you prersume to know the application
[02:10] <setuid> And it works for me, so the issue is on your end
[02:10] <vincenz> setuid: the video version?
[02:11] <setuid> I KNOW the application, I've filed patches agaisnt gtkpod (well, libgpod, which gtkpod uses)
[02:11] <vincenz> setuid: first it wouldn't detect /usr/include/mp4.h
[02:11] <soundray> setuid: not you again.
[02:11] <vincenz> setuid: so I fixed config.h and patched it
[02:11] <vincenz> setuid: then it gave me that compile error on /.../system/something.c
[02:11] <setuid> vincenz: That is your underlying problem, you didn't point to the right loation with configure
[02:11] <setuid> soundray: What?
[02:11] <vincenz> setuid: I have to point it where "/usr/include/" is o.O
[02:12] <vincenz> that's a system include directory
[02:12] <setuid> vincenz: Did you install libmp4v2-dev:?
[02:12] <vincenz> setuid: yes
[02:12] <soundray> setuid: publicizing your *great* experience.
[02:12] <setuid> Did you check what failed in config.log?
[02:12] <vincenz> setuid: it kept failing
[02:12] <vincenz> setuid: so I manually changed the define of ocnfig.h
[02:12] <setuid> soundray: No, in this particular area, I have experience. I could care less how great or miniscule it is.
[02:12] <setuid> vincenz: Right, that was the wrong fix
[02:12] <vincenz> even after fully aclocal && autoconf && automake
[02:12] <setuid> shrug, works here, your system is at fault
[02:13] <setuid> When you satisfy the dependencies, without hacking config.h to "trick" it, it works fine.
[02:13] <vincenz> setuid: tell me why it doesnt know about "/usr/include"
[02:13] <soundray> setuid: you could or couldn't?
[02:13] <setuid> It does, check config.log
[02:13] <vincenz> how dumb must it be not to know about "/usr/include"
[02:13] <setuid> Well, without knowing what your configure line, output and build output showed, I can't help you.
[02:13] <setuid> If you refuse to pastebot it so we can take a look, you're on your own.
[02:14] <vincenz> eurgh
[02:14] <vincenz> fine
[02:14] <setuid> vincenz: And which version are you building?
[02:14] <setuid> CVS HEAD? Release?
[02:14] <vincenz> latest release
[02:14] <vincenz> aka the tar from sourceforge
[02:15] <vincenz> 99-2
[02:15] <cnkrtdsko> soundray: i just thought of something, would my drive have to be FAT32 in order to partition it?
[02:15] <setuid> gnomefreak: Any ideas on my Nautilus issue above?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> cnkrtdsko: the ubuntu disk can partion anything
[02:15] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: no, but you have to create empty space before you can partition it.
[02:15] <gnomefreak> setuid: i didnt see it
[02:15] <andy_> cucu :)
[02:15] <setuid> gnomefreak: "How do I get nautilus to show drives as icons on the desktop?"
[02:16] <cnkrtdsko> thats the problem. i have lots of empty space...it jsut wont partition so i can put ubuntu on one, and have windows on the other...
[02:16] <setuid> This used to work, and after a clean format/reinstall, it no longer does
[02:16] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: no, you haven't.
[02:16] <setuid> cnkrtdsko: gparted?
[02:16] <vincenz> setuid: mind if we privmsg?
[02:16] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: currently all your space is occupied by the Windows partition.
[02:16] <setuid> vincenz: Let's join #vincenz
[02:16] <cnkrtdsko> setuid: pparted?
[02:16] <cnkrtdsko> soundray: your right...
[02:16] <setuid> cnkrtdsko: gparted
[02:16] <cnkrtdsko> setuid: gparted?
[02:17] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: don't listen to setuid, he's too far advanced for us.
[02:17] <cnkrtdsko> ok
[02:17] <setuid> gparted - partition editor for GNOME
[02:17] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: for gparted you'd have to be running Linux first.
[02:17] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: stick with the installer.
[02:17] <NET||abuse> what version of gcc is breezy kernel built with?
[02:17] <cnkrtdsko> soundray: so if i have 120gigs of space belonging to windows, how can i cut that down so i have free space to use for a ubuntu partiton?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> iirc the installer uses gparted :(
[02:17] <Haaskaaja> how to install .deb files?
[02:18] <IdleOne> NET||abuse:  gcc 4 by default
[02:18] <gnomefreak> NET||abuse: 3.4
[02:18] <_jason> !deb
[02:18] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:18] <navaneeth> does anyone know how to find and configure canon printer drivers for ubuntu?
[02:18] <_jason> NET||abuse: the kernel is 3.4, they couldn't get it to build with 4
[02:18] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: at some point during the process, the installer offers you to use parted (not gparted, gnomefreak) to shrink your Win partition.
[02:18] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: dapper kernel was built with 4 all the rest were 3.4
[02:19] <cnkrtdsko> oh ok. so i should do that
[02:19] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: take it up on that offer and reduce it to 20 or so GB.
[02:19] <cnkrtdsko> yeah, ok. i will brb then :)
[02:19] <cnkrtdsko> thanks
[02:19] <cnkrtdsko> :)
[02:19] <soundray> cnkrtdsko: hope it works for you this time.
[02:20] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: check the hardware site than if you cant find there i would google (if noone answers in here)
[02:20] <caitlin> morning
[02:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell navaneeth about hardware
[02:20] <pixael> hey a quick one dudes its probably pretty lame but where can I find my includes im istalling vmware and its giving me the error What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:20] <pixael> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[02:20] <navaneeth> how will i configure it?
[02:21] <caitlin> anyone happen to know of any guides for getting per site .htaccess working on breezy badger, after a morning of thumping this thing round google i still can't lock myself out of my site :P
[02:21] <caitlin> apache2 sorry
[02:21] <gnomefreak> you cant configure anything without the drivers
[02:21] <gnomefreak> well you could but would be usless
[02:21] <Morfosomo> pixeal you need the actual headers of your current kernel,.. try synaptic for headers and try the ones that match your current kernel
[02:21] <soundray> navaneeth: what printer do you have/
[02:21] <soundray> ?
[02:21] <navaneeth> i know i will get a .tar.gz something file. Then what?
[02:21] <pixael> shweet morf
[02:22] <NET||abuse> IdleOne, gnomefreak, _jason: thanks :)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> yw NET||abuse
[02:22] <navaneeth> i have a canon bjc 2100 sp printer.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> navaneeth:  you need to cd to where its saved than unpack it with tar xvfz file.tar.gz
[02:23] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: than read the README or INSTALL files to get all the depends and for instructions
[02:23] <navaneeth> Thank you. I will try.
[02:23] <soundray> gnomefreak: navaneeth's printer has gimpprint drivers. Are you sure he needs to do all this?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> no if he has gimp drivers he doesnt need to do that
[02:24] <gnomefreak> i thought brother was unsupported
[02:24] <soundray> gnomefreak: canon, not brother.
[02:24] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhhh
[02:24] <soundray> navaneeth: ubuntu comes with a driver for your printer.
[02:25] <navaneeth> ok. so i just need to plug and play?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> he should beable to set that in cups
[02:26] <soundray> navaneeth: not quite.
[02:26] <nao23>  Hi, is this the place one can come for answers?
[02:26] <soundray> navaneeth: You are running gnome?
[02:26] <navaneeth> yes
[02:26] <nao23> that's nice
[02:26] <soundray> navaneeth: System-Admin-Printing, tell it to add a new printer.
[02:27] <navaneeth> i am now doing that
[02:27] <gnomefreak> nao23: ask your question if someone knows they will answer or give me 5 mins and i will try to answer
[02:27] <gopi> demo_ln is a symbolic link to demo...... I did cat demo_ln in that symbolic link path but its saying cat: demo_ln: No such file or directory
[02:27] <soundray> navaneeth: is it detected automatically?
[02:27] <navaneeth> no
[02:28] <soundray> navaneeth: how is it connected?
[02:28] <nao23> ok, my question is  : is there a standard driver for an ati video card, because i cant seem to findd one for mine and my system freezes weverytime  start it
[02:28] <gopi> am i doing anything wrong ? Isnt it possible to cat demo_ln ?
[02:28] <nao23> (dam i suck at typing)
[02:28] <soundray> !tell nao23 about ati
[02:28] <soundray> nao23: read the message from ubotu pls.
[02:28] <navaneeth> can you wait a second please. i am going through the dropdown list.
[02:30] <navaneeth> ok. so there is "bjc-2100" and "bjc-210sp". Note that it is 210.
[02:30] <flevour> hi all
[02:30] <flevour> do you know of any commands to figure out which character encoding has a file?
[02:30] <gnomefreak> nao23: you mean for 3d?
[02:31] <soundray> navaneeth: pick one or the other. I would start with 2100
[02:31] <nao23> well, i have a radeon x600 card and as soon as i logon the system freezes
[02:31] <nao23> i read my output and it seems to be the video card
[02:32] <navaneeth> when i start installing the driver it asks for a "ppd" file.
[02:32] <gnomefreak> nao23: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and make sure everything is correct
[02:32] <shukhrat> can install mysql without dependies ?
[02:32] <variant> navaneeth: get it from your printer driver disk
[02:32] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: it wont work than
[02:33] <nao23> gnomefreak :  thx i'll try that
[02:33] <gnomefreak> gimp has a site you may need to get that file from
[02:33] <shukhrat> it is 2 day that i cannot intsall mysql ! :(
[02:33] <navaneeth> you mean like a location in my filesytem?
[02:33] <_jason> shukhrat: mysql is in the repositories
[02:33] <gnomefreak> nao23: after fixing it reboot see if it works
[02:33] <soundray> navaneeth: if you have the foomatic-filters-ppds package installed, you will find a ppd for your printer in usr/share/ppd/Canon/Canon-BJC-2100-bjc600.ppd.gz
[02:33] <shukhrat> how install mysql ?
[02:33] <kristof> hi there! could someone plz send me the LibGL.so.1.2 from MESA ?
[02:34] <variant> navaneeth: get it from the cd containing the drivers that you got with your printer.. or the net
[02:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell shukhrat about lamp
[02:34] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: sudo apt-get install lamp
[02:34] <variant> kristof: is it missing ong your systyem?
[02:34] <_jason> gnomefreak: there's no lamp package "P
[02:34] <variant> kristof: do a slocate LibGL.so
[02:34] <gnomefreak> _jason: oops :(
[02:34] <fatbrain> there's a package named libdbus-1-1 that's in the breezy devel repo, how can I *enable* that in my sources.list?
[02:34] <_jason> shukhrat: the mysql server is just 'mysql-server' but the link from ubotu will tell you how to setup php, mysql, and apache if you want that
[02:35] <gnomefreak> fatbrain: breezy devel repo?
[02:35] <_jason> !info libdbus dapper
[02:35] <_jason> !info libdbus-1-1 dapper
[02:36] <navaneeth> ok. whwn i opened it this"missing asterisk in column 1 at.........." comes
[02:36] <dooglus> !info libdbus-1-1
[02:36] <ubotu> libdbus-1-1: (simple interprocess messaging system), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.36.2-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 216 kB, Installed size: 400 kB
[02:36] <gnomefreak> _jason: hold on ill apt-cache search it
[02:36] <shukhrat> jason it say E: Counldn't find package lamp
[02:36] <gnomefreak> nm you found it
[02:36] <_jason> shukhrat: the mysql server is just 'mysql-server' but the link from ubotu will tell you how to setup php, mysql, and apache if you want that
[02:36] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: there is no package lamp im sorry
[02:36] <elro> Hi there, I have installed dapper flight 4, but am having problems using cups-pdf, I can't seem to see a pdf printer detected. any ideas?
[02:36] <fatbrain> gnomefreak: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/ :S
[02:37] <_jason> fatbrain: that just breezy main
[02:37] <_jason> s/that/that's
[02:37] <nao23> and 1 more question, is 686-smp this the version i need for my dual cpu pentium 4 ?
[02:37] <soundray> navaneeth: what have you done, and where do you see this error?
[02:37] <soundray> nao23: yes.
[02:37] <nao23> cool
[02:37] <nao23> thx
[02:37] <Morfosomo> dual cpu or dual core?
[02:37] <nao23> dual core
[02:37] <nao23> sorry
[02:38] <soundray> nao23: it's the same in any case.
[02:38] <nao23> :-)
[02:38] <navaneeth> i opened the file you asked me to. it comen in a small screen in the middle of the screen.( sorry, i am very new to linux as you can see)
[02:38] <elkbuntu> a lamp info package (like the build-essential package) would be a nice addition to the release after dapper... whatever it's going to be called
[02:38] <Morfosomo> soundray you sure? smp for a single chip config?
[02:39] <kristof> i have fglrx installed an running i only need the mesa libGl.so.1.2 from Mesa, ati dirvers overrided it ....i guess =)
[02:39] <gnomefreak> dapper is keeping its name
[02:39] <soundray> Morfosomo: to make use of the dual core capability, yes.
[02:39] <soundray> Morfosomo: also, if you want to use Hyperthreading on a single core, you need smp
[02:39] <rambo3> even its color ? crapper color
[02:39] <gnomefreak> rambo3: what color?
[02:39] <rambo3> zi brown
[02:39] <nao23> i looked it up, this is my cpu Intel Pentium D processor 820 dual-core
[02:40] <fatbrain> _jason: I can't install the libdbus-1-1 from my dapper flight-4, any suggestsions? (it is not installable)
[02:40] <gnomefreak> rambo3: yes that is the ubuntu color
[02:40] <_jason> fatbrain: dapper has libdbus-1-2
[02:40] <Morfosomo> interesting stuff
[02:40] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak i never said dapper was changing it's name... i meant the release that will be 6.10
[02:40] <fatbrain> _jason: ok, thanks
[02:40] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhhhh
[02:40] <soundray> navaneeth: what do you use to install ubuntu packages? Synaptic or apt-get?
[02:41] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, i cant remember if they decided on a project name for it yet or not. i know eager eagle was a strong consideration
[02:41] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: i havent heard what it is yet i thought i heard somewhere mark already had the name picked though
[02:41] <navaneeth> i don't know.
[02:41] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, i heard that too
[02:41] !lilo:*! New channel: ##spamback (for the discussion of spam fighting ideas and techniques)
[02:42] <soundray> navaneeth: do you still have the New Printer dialog open?
[02:42] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, i'd be interested to know if he's chosen one, and if so, what it is. i'm not a fan of the 'eager eagle' idea, as it makes ubuntu sound try-hard
[02:42] <navaneeth> yes.
[02:43] <soundray> Have you selected Local Printer and the Printer Port?
[02:43] <Dyss> hello
[02:44] <soundray> navaneeth, Have you selected Local Printer and the Printer Port?
[02:44] <navaneeth> i selected "local printer" but there is no where to select a port
[02:44] <salah> h
[02:45] <soundray> navaneeth: okay, when you click Forward, do you get to where you select the driver?
[02:46] <navaneeth> ok. sorry .i found what you said. so which port shoul i select?
[02:46] <soundray> navaneeth: the one where your printer is connected, probably something like USB #1 or /dev/usblp0 or /dev/usb/lp0
[02:47] <navaneeth> how do i know?
[02:48] <shukhrat> takedown
[02:48] <tux> Hello. Somebody knows how to install firefox-1.5 from apt-get in ubuntu breezy?
[02:48] <shukhrat> takedown ti zdes ?
[02:48] <salah> Can I setup fonts in Ubuntu?
[02:48] <sedric> if i have 5.0.4 installed then i want to upgrade with the new cd, can i just upgrade or do i have to reinstall
[02:49] <gnomefreak> tux it will not be ported for breezy but you can install it
[02:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tux about ff1.5
[02:49] <takedown> shukhrat: write in ru channel
[02:49] <soundray> navaneeth: there aren't that many choices.
[02:49] <gnomefreak> tux: read the pm for instructions for installing it and make sure you leave ff1.0.7 on your pc
[02:50] <gnomefreak> sedric: you can apt-get upgrade to breezy
[02:50] <shukhrat> jason it's not work again (MySQL) again asking  for depen.
[02:51] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: does it give you option to install the depends?
[02:51] <shukhrat> no
[02:51] <gopi> gnomefreak: I have upgraded as you said by doing "sudo apt-get -f install" and then when I did "sudo apt-get install mythtv" still error......
[02:51] <sedric> can you set apt-get to use a cd?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> gopi: what is the error again please
[02:51] <navaneeth> in my sytsem it seems there are. first few: parallel port 1(Canon),parallel port 2(epson) then usb port from 1 to 10.
[02:52] <gnomefreak> sedric: i dont think you can uupgrade using cd
[02:52] <gnomefreak> install cd will give you clean install
[02:52] <sedric> gnomefreak: ok, thats a bummer
[02:52] <gnomefreak> sedric: you have packages that are not on the cd
[02:52] <soundray> navaneeth: USB #1 then (like I said above).
[02:53] <gnomefreak> gopi: make sure you have multiverse enabled not the backports
[02:53] <sedric> gnomefreak: thank you
[02:53] <gnomefreak> sedric: yw
[02:54] <navaneeth> nope. didn't work. got the same error message.
[02:54] <soundray> navaneeth: what error message, and where?
[02:55] <gopi> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9532
[02:55] <Dyss> I'm trying to instal Ubuntu on an old computer and after I type server I get some addresses (I believe) and "Call Trace: Bad EIP value Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" I got something similar with Debian. Can anyone help?
[02:55] <gopi> gnomefreak: Yes I changed Universe to multiverse ....
[02:56] <navaneeth> "missing asterisk in column 1 at /usr/share/ppd/...the file" and in the center of the screen in a small window.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> gopi: you need both universe and multiverse
[02:58] <navaneeth> sorry soundray. have to go.i will try again later. Thanks anyways.
[02:58] <setuid> gnomefreak: The fix for nautilus was gconf-editor
[02:58] <soundray> navaneeth: okay.
[02:58] <setuid> /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible
[02:59] <gopi> gnomefreak: sorry looks like both Universe and Multiverse are there.... my screen shot of Repositiries.... plz look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9533
[02:59] <setuid> gnomefreak: I do too, except when they're for external media
[02:59] <setuid> root@angst:~ # ls /media/
[02:59] <setuid> cdrom  cdrom0  sda1  sdc1  sdd1  sdd2  sde  sdf1  sdg1  sdh1  usb  usb0  zip
[03:00] <setuid> I wish it would use symbolic names in /media/
[03:00] <gopi> gnomefreak: its correct right ? both Universe and Multiverse are there right ?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> gopi: run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and paste me everything in that file to pastebin please
[03:01] <gopi> gnomefreak : ok
[03:02] <sj> hi
[03:02] <gnomefreak> hi
[03:02] <gopi> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9534
[03:03] <setuid> How do I revert to a previous version of a .deb package?
[03:03] <sj> so, last time i upgraded from hoary to breezy, everything broke, i remember getting weird perl messages with dpkg after apt-getting everything
[03:03] <sj> and it's happening again
[03:03] <sj> has anyone experienced this?
[03:03] <setuid> sj: might help to know the message
[03:03] <sj> it's pretty long
[03:04] <sj> don't want to flood the channel, it's basically giving out about the locale
[03:04] <sj> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[03:04] <sj> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_GB:en_GB:en_US:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = "en_GB"
[03:04] <gnomefreak> gopi: put a # infront of the cdrom repo and take the # away from lines 32 and 33  than save close run sudo apt-get update
[03:04] <sj> says that everytime it's preparing a package.
[03:04] <gnomefreak> sj: please use pastebint o paste there is no pasting in here
[03:04] <sj> and thus, nothing gets installed properly
[03:04] <sj> gnomefreak: k, sorry
[03:04] <Dyss> No one know?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> Dyss: what were you asking
[03:05] <Dyss> Dyss I'm trying to instal Ubuntu on an old computer and after I type server I get some addresses (I believe) and "Call Trace: Bad EIP value Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" I got something similar with Debian. Can anyone help?
[03:05] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok
[03:05] <gnomefreak> sj: try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:05] <gnomefreak> gopi: after update is done than try to apt-get install it if not go to synaptic and try to grab it
[03:06] <koin> hi, i'm tryin to compile gaim2 but I get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:06] <koin> . Any solution ?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Dyss: no im not real sure of that
[03:06] <_jason> koin: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[03:06] <gnomefreak> koin: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:07] <Dyss> ok, thanks anyway
[03:07] <koin> thanks _jason, gnomefreak, it works fine
[03:08] <gopi> gnomefreak: ## or # in front of cdrom ?
[03:08] <_jason> gopi: just put a #
[03:08] <gopi> ok !
[03:09] <as_284> hello
[03:09] <_jason> as_284: hi
[03:09] <as_284> does anyone can help me confiure my wi-fi card
[03:09] <tyler_> i wanna get my all-in-one machine to work, how can i do that? its a brother mfc 5200c?
[03:10] <_jason> !wifi
[03:10] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:10] <Loevborg> Can anyone recommend a cheapo inkjet printer for use with ubuntu and macos x?
[03:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell tyler_ about print
[03:10] <_jason> tyler_: checkout those sites to see if they can help
[03:11] <gnomefreak> gopi: one is fine you can use 1 or 2 # doesnt matter
[03:11] <gnomefreak> gopi: the # tells the os to ignore that line (its called a comment)
[03:11] <gnomefreak> Loevborg: empson
[03:11] <gnomefreak> epson
[03:12] <gnomefreak> well atleast mine works with min set up
[03:13] <osku_> #ubuntu-fi
[03:13] <gnomefreak> osku_: are you trying to join that channel?
[03:14] <hikenboot> anyone in here know what the CONFIG_ option in the kernel for dma support of IDE is?
[03:15] <Loevborg> gnomefreak, thanks
[03:15] <gnomefreak> loeyw
[03:16] <setuid> How do I revert to a previous version of a package?
[03:16] <setuid> I need to back hal down to the last version
[03:16] <gopi> gnomefreak: dammit I did the following after changing sources.list, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install and finally when I did sudo apt-get install mythtv, same error :(
[03:16] <Toma-> setuid, via apt?
[03:16] <setuid> Toma-: Sure, that'll do. What's the syntax?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> gopi: did you take the # away from those 2 lines?
[03:17] <rambo3> gopi useing freevo?
[03:17] <gopi> gnome yes I did... do u want to check that sources.list again?
[03:17] <Toma-> 1 moment plz
[03:17] <gopi> rambo3: freevo means ?
[03:17] <dooglus> !powernowd
[03:17] <ubotu> dooglus: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:17] <gnomefreak> gopi: give me a min ill give you a list you can replace yours with
[03:17] <edan> hi
[03:18] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok !
[03:18] <dooglus> can someone help me with powernowd please?  I can't get it to run.
[03:18] <rambo3> http://freevo.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[03:18] <Toma-> setuid, is the old version available by apt?
[03:19] <setuid> Toma-: How would I know?
[03:19] <setuid> I don't think apt lists multiple versions of a package
[03:19] <Toma-> setuid, diod you install this newer version via dpkg or apt?
[03:19] <Ng> apt-cache show foo  will show you all the available versions of package foo
[03:19] <setuid> Toma-: Via apt
[03:19] <gopi> gnomefreak: plz check if its correct, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9535
[03:19] <setuid> I need to back it down (revert) to the previous version
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ok gopi go into that file again and get rid of everything you have and paste whats on this site to it please http://pastebin.com/576677
[03:19] <Toma-> setuid, ahh.now youre making it tricky :)
[03:20] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok
[03:20] <Ng> setuid: apt keeps recently downloaded packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/ - you may be able to dig the old version out of there and install it with dpkg
[03:20] <adub> what is one unique characteristic that seperates Ubuntu from the other Linux distributions??
[03:20] <gnomefreak> gopi: after that run sudo apt-get update
[03:21] <gnomefreak> gopi: than open synaptic and search mythtv and install it from there
[03:21] <Toma-> setuid, try what Ng just said, but also,k if you updated from apt to a newer version, youll be hard press to find the old version...
[03:21] <setuid> Ng: I don't think I can dpkg -i a package when a newer one is installed, and I've done an 'apt-get clean' anyway
[03:21] <gnomefreak> adub: the release secheduals and the updates
[03:21] <koin> How can i check glib version ?
[03:21] <Toma-> setuid, yeh u can
[03:21] <aal2000> How stable are the latest development CDs?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> setuid: man dpkg
[03:21] <Ng> setuid: you can, dpkg doesn't tend to check such things, but if you've cleaned then you may not have it anymore ;/
[03:21] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok
[03:21] <skaja> how do i play real media video files in totem?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> aal2000: depends if you mean stable as in not going to break they are not
[03:22] <packman_e> hey all
[03:22] <adub> When did Ubuntu first come into existence
[03:22] <gnomefreak> koin: apt-cache policy glib
[03:22] <aal2000> gnomefreak: by break what do you mean?
[03:22] <aal2000> Are they upgradable throughotu the development process until the final release?
[03:22] <setuid> Ng: So I should locate the previous .deb and just dpkg -i it, and it'll replace the newer version with the older version?
[03:22] <Ng> aal2000: yes
[03:22] <gnomefreak> aal2000: break = doesnt work wont boot packages are broken
[03:22] <Ng> setuid: it should do, yes
[03:23] <aal2000> gnomefreak because of what?
[03:23] <koin> I get : W: Unable to locate package glib
[03:23] <koin> . How can I install glib ?
[03:23] <stjepan> hello
[03:23] <aal2000> Where can the latest CD be found of dapper pre-release?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> aal2000: because its in development that means they are changing things and those things cause others to break
[03:23] <[balayhashi] > My system is too heavy: can someone tell me where I can find good reading material for understand how to optimize ubuntu/linux ?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> koin: search for it in synaptic
[03:24] <Kwame> hello
[03:24] <southern> hi all
[03:25] <stjepan> I used fglrx 8.20.x driver on slackware. Then I switched to Ubuntu dapper and now I use latest 8.22.5 fglrx driver. Now I always get "Couldn't find matching GLX visual" error, even if I use xorg.conf from slackware. Whats the problem? :(
[03:25] <southern> I've got probleme with dyndns ...
[03:25] <Toma-> [balayhashi] , biggest thing you can do its remove startup script you dont need and get a lighter window manager and initng
[03:25] <Toma-> stjepan, join #ubuntu+1
[03:25] <packman_e> guys, is there a way to install or convert a program that is in .tar format, so that it registers with apt/synaptic please?
[03:25] <southern> I followed the official describe (ubuntu.org)
[03:26] <Toma-> packman_e, yep. checkinstall
[03:26] <Toma-> !checkinstall
[03:26] <ubotu> I heard checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[03:26] <HymnToLife> can anyone help me out to set up an internet connection sharing ?
[03:26] <HymnToLife> the wiki page is not clear at all :/
[03:26] <southern> but cron doesn't do anything
[03:26] <aal2000> Anyone running unstable?
[03:26] <packman_e> thank you,  i will check it out now
[03:26] <NRG88> hikenboot, where can i change the main menu icon?
[03:26] <southern> cron is running
[03:26] <NRG88> it's not the gnome-main-menu.svg :(
[03:26] <Toma-> aal2000, unstable?
[03:26] <southern> but doesn't run dyndns_update.sh
[03:27] <southern> anybody idea?
[03:27] <aal2000> Dapper pre-release snapshot type thing
[03:27] <dooglus> adub: version 4.10 was the first release, and was released on October 20, 2004.
[03:27] <[balayhashi] > Toma : thanks
[03:27] <Toma-> aal2000, lots of people in #ubuntu+1
[03:27] <Toma-> read the topic plz.
[03:27] <edson>  speek portuguese?
[03:27] <as_284> _jason. thanks but I already read all the info available in ubuntu
[03:27] <ubuntu234> hola
[03:27] <blase> I just did a clean-default install of ubuntu and it's mostly great, but I can't seem to find the smbmnt (smbmount?) command even though the smbclient package is installed -- do I need to "activate" the package somehow?
[03:27] <salah> How can I install ? gcc-2.95.x or gcc-3.x
[03:27] <ubuntu234> alguien habla espaol?
[03:27] <as_284> but still doeset work
[03:27] <southern> anybody use dyndns_update????
[03:28] <Toma-> !es
[03:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:28] <HymnToLife> !es
[03:28] <salah> C compiler for Mediaplayer
[03:28] <edson> Algum do Brasil?
[03:28] <setuid> Are there any spiffy daily-diary type apps for Ubuntu (gtk+/kde, doesn't matter to me)? apt-cache doesn't show any for 'diary' or 'notes' that are desktop-specific.
[03:28] <dradul> ubuntu234, usa #ubuntu-es en vez de este canal.
[03:28] <Toma-> salah, "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4"
[03:28] <_jason> !br
[03:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:28] <njan> setuid, what do you mean over and above a groupware client like evolution?
[03:28] <_jason> as_284: be more specific about what fails, I probably can't help you, but someone else might be able to
[03:28] <setuid> njan: That's too heavy, and isn't a "diary", that's a PIM
[03:29] <njan> setuid, which is why I asked what you meant over and above a groupware client and what you specifically meant by 'diary' ;)
[03:29] <edson> Algum sabe como instalar o firefox 1.5?
[03:29] <blase> anybody?
[03:29] <setuid> njan: Just something simple that shows the month/day, and allows me to jot notes and ideas
[03:29] <Morfosomo> !br
[03:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:29] <setuid> OSX has a bunch of these kinds of apps, free-flowing thought diary stuff
[03:29] <setuid> Something I can pop up, click on a day, add a note or thought, and close.
[03:30] <edson> No entendi?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> aal2000:  you do know that when we say unstable we dont mean like etch unstable we me in testing/alpha stages pre beta
[03:30] <blase> setuid: try mypages :-P
[03:30] <southern> GUYS anybody uses dyndns_update ???????
[03:30] <southern> pls help
[03:30] <Morfosomo> edson Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[03:30] <njan> setuid, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird.html
[03:30] <Toma-> southern, no, but what the problem?
[03:30] <_jason> edson: faz isto para falar com mais brazileiros: /join #ubuntu-br
[03:30] <njan> setuid, how about that? (or mozilla calendar)
[03:30] <mtxvla001> oyaaaaa
[03:31] <setuid> njan: calendar sucks, slow and requires a browser. If I'm going to use a browser, I'll just use a wiki or something.
[03:31] <setuid> BhAaD: mypages isn't in Ubuntu
[03:31] <Kwame> vipi
[03:31] <mtxvla001> poa
[03:31] <setuid> er, blase
[03:31] <salah> I have to use make cmd forinstalling mpgplayer.But terminal says make cmdnotfound
[03:31] <Kwame> baadaye mwanangu
[03:31] <mtxvla001> cul
[03:31] <southern> Toma-: I followed the official ubuntu dyndns howto
[03:31] <setuid> blase: What did you mean?
[03:31] <_jason> salah: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[03:31] <southern> but it doesn't run automatically (cron)
[03:31] <zhangyang> Is there a Chinese people?
[03:31] <Toma-> southern, is cron running?
[03:31] <blase> setuid: oh I see you don't want to use a browser, nm
[03:31] <as_284> _jason: thanks again, the problem seems to be that it cannot take a IP from the DHCP server
[03:31] <southern> yes
[03:31] <hikenboot> NRG88: sorry i dont know
[03:32] <southern> I tested
[03:32] <Toma-> southern, did you add an entry to crontab?
[03:32] <setuid> blase: Just something quick and easy I can load up and write into, and close down again, something that doesn't require net access
[03:32] <southern> other jobs run well...
[03:32] <zhangyang> hi everybody
[03:32] <salah> thanks man
[03:32] <salah> U know a lot
[03:32] <setuid> njan: I'll see how fast sunbird launches
[03:32] <southern> yes "0 * * * * sh /root/dyndns_update.sh"
[03:33] <gnomefreak> zhangyang: there is a chinese channel but i cant remember the country sode (atleast im sure there is one)
[03:33] <zhangyang> sorry I don't know what did you mean.
[03:33] <_jason> !zh
[03:33] <ubotu> _jason: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:34] <southern> zhangyang magyar vagy?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> !ch
[03:34] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:34] <_jason> #ubuntu-zh for chinese iirc
[03:34] <blase> damn, I need a better irc client
[03:34] <gopi> gnomefreak ?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> gopi: ?
[03:34] <WKC> i tried to install a kernel module to use my wireless card and i got this message: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/25 , has someone any idea what i am doing wrong?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> blase: use irssi :)
[03:34] <packman_e> hey guys, can anyone reccomend any good printed books for beginners based on debian/ubuntu
[03:34] <blase> well, I am... but I'm doing it command-style over ssh
[03:34] <oklinux> my Solicited TCP Packets: RECEIVED (FAILED) how do I fix this ?
[03:34] <southern> Toma-
[03:35] <zhangyang> Who can tell me how can i use Chinese to write.
[03:35] <keendle> is it possible to install ubuntu with xfce as default desktop without ever touching gnome (excluding the dependencies)?
[03:35] <blase> and I haven't had irc commands memorized in a looong time
[03:35] <southern> any idea?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> blase: irssi is cli based
[03:35] <Toma-> southern, yo
[03:35] <gopi> gnomefreak: I did sudo apt-get update and everything got fetched except at the last it showed as follows....
[03:35] <Toma-> southern, nope. does that script its running exist?
[03:35] <gopi> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/Release  Unable to find expected entry  multi/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:35] <gopi> Reading package lists... Done
[03:35] <gopi> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:35] <_jason> packman_e: o'reilly books are usually good, I've only seen an ubuntu-specific book come out recently and it is so far only in french
[03:35] <gnomefreak> keendle: not yet in april it will be
[03:35] <Toma-> gopi, paste again, ill personally disconnect you.
[03:35] <zhangyang> I'm first logo this chat room.Who can help me!
[03:35] <salah> can I setup any exe file in Ubuntu which is only suported in windows?
[03:35] <WKC> i tried to install a kernel module to use my wireless card and i got this message: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/25 , has someone any idea what i am doing wrong?
[03:35] <gopi> oh Toma- sorry...
[03:36] <gnomefreak> gopi: sudo apt-get -f install  see if it grabs them
[03:36] <zhangyang> 55555555
[03:36] <gnomefreak> salah: if it runs in wine yes
[03:36] <Toma-> ubotu, tell gopi about pastebin
[03:36] <Toma-> ubotu, tell gopi about coc
[03:36] <gnomefreak> but not all win apps will run in wine
[03:36] <salah> it runs only windows . not in linux
[03:36] <WKC> i tried to install a kernel module to use my wireless card and i got this message: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/25 , has someone any idea what i am doing wrong????
[03:37] <southern> Toma- yes its exist
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell salah about wine
[03:37] <zhangyang> rtg
[03:37] <Toma-> southern, and its not working....
[03:37] <zhangyang> 
[03:37] <gnomefreak> salah: if wine wont run it than no but wine is made to run exe files
[03:37] <elkbuntu> zhangyang, stop the spamming. annoying people isnt a way to get helped
[03:37] <WKC> i tried to install a kernel module to use my wireless card and i got this message: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/25 , has someone any idea what i am doing wrong????
[03:37] <southern> yes
[03:37] <gopi> gnomefreak: I did and it said 50 not upgraded...
[03:37] <southern> manually running
[03:37] <gnomefreak> zhangyang: did you try joining ubuntu-zh
[03:38] <salah> sir what is wine
[03:38] <salah> I am not sure abt it
[03:38] <gnomefreak> gopi: run sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:38] <gnomefreak> salah: ubotu sent you a pm about wine
[03:38] <ryanpg> selecting Log Out from the gnome menu freezes X, anyone know what command spefically is run by that menu item? or how I can find that out?
[03:38] <Toma-> southern, ok. whats the cron line you have? and what file is it in?
[03:38] <zhangyang> This is my first time use this OS.ubuntu .But i can't use it well.can you help me?
[03:39] <WKC> i tried to install a kernel module to use my wireless card and i got this message: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/25 , has someone any idea what i am doing wrong????
[03:39] <southern> Toma-> 0 * * * * sudo sh /root/dyndns_update.sh
[03:39] <gnomefreak> zhangyang: in english we can try if you feel better using chinese type /j #ubuntu-zh
[03:39] <Toma-> southern, no need for sudo
[03:40] <salah> thanks
[03:40] <zhangyang> #ubuntu-zh
[03:40] <malv> so any total computer noobs in here that use ubuntu?
[03:40] <southern> Toma-> just a minute...
[03:40] <TuxAtWork> hikenboot, why can't I change the time from my gnome?
[03:40] <zhangyang> #ubuntu-zh
[03:40] <malv> just out of curiosity
[03:40] <Toma-> southern, ok... what file is that line in?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> WKC: join #ubuntu-br
[03:40] <zhangyang> how
[03:41] <_jason> zhangyang: /join #ubuntu-zh
[03:41] <gnomefreak> zhangyang: type this exactly as i do  /join #ubuntu-zh
[03:41] <Toma-> malv, yep.
[03:41] <zhangyang> How can i join in it
[03:41] <malv> is it fairly easy for you?
[03:41] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok doing... and Iam curious what will sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  do?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> zhangyang: i just showed you
[03:41] <Toma-> TuxAtWork, because you need sudo to change the time...
[03:41] <gnomefreak> gopi: grab updates that upgrade wont do
[03:41] <Toma-> malv, im not a noob. but there are lots.
[03:42] <Deep6> anyone know a channel for openssl?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> like kernels and some other things
[03:42] <Toma-> southern read "man 5 crontab"
[03:42] <zhangyang> yes i can do
[03:42] <zhangyang> but
[03:42] <malv> any 80 grandmas in the crowd?
[03:42] <malv> 80 year old *
[03:42] <gnomefreak> its a channel
[03:42] <zhangyang> I can not use chinese to write.
[03:42] <kuja> malv: I'm a 19 year old male, but I think I'll get there some day.
[03:42] <malv> heh
[03:42] <Toma-> malv, this is a help chan.... need help? if not, move it to #ubuntu-offtopic plz :)
[03:42] <salah> tar -xjf Blue-1.4.tar.bz2... It's not working to intall mpplayer
[03:42] <packman_e> hey, has anyone used autodeb, what are your opinions on this software
[03:43] <Deep6> kuja, that'd be a neat trick male to grandma
[03:43] <gnomefreak> zhangyang: in the settings of your irc app that you are using should have that choice
[03:43] <salah> it says no such dirrectory.Wht i shd do?
[03:43] <Toma-> packman_e, checkinstall is better.... for distributing, just learn how to use a control file and make a deb properly...
[03:43] <gnomefreak> salah: where is it saved?
[03:43] <zhangyang> no chinese
[03:44] <packman_e> Toma-, ok thanks, i will give autodeb a miss
[03:44] <kuja> Deep6: Yeah, hopefully I can get my growup script working... growup --change-sex female --age 80
[03:44] <Deep6> kuja, well good luck with that...
[03:44] <Toma-> packman_e, mind you, ive never used autodeb... but if it does what the package says, it sounds risky
[03:44] <salah> I m just setupping mpplayer
[03:44] <packman_e> Toma-, how about autoapt
[03:44] <zhangyang> oh It is too hard to me .
[03:45] <Toma-> packman_e, never heard of it :P
[03:45] <salah> this-- tar -xjf Blue-1.4.tar.bz2 code is notworking
[03:45] <gnomefreak> salah:  you have to cd to the dir before you can unpack a tar
[03:45] <gnomefreak> salah: where didyou save the tar.bz
[03:45] <packman_e> the reason i ask is because the checkinstall page links to it
[03:45] <Toma-> i c
[03:45] <salah> home dir
[03:45] <zhangyang> gnomefreak thank you very much ,but I still can't use chinese to type
[03:45] <Toma-> checkinstall is all i need
[03:46] <zhangyang> I think I must go to bed.
[03:46] <salah> $ cd
[03:46] <salah> $ tar -xjf font-arial-iso-8859-7.tar.bz2
[03:46] <salah> $ sudo cp font-arial-iso-8859-7/font-arial-14-iso-8859-7/* /usr/local/share/mplayer/font/
[03:46] <salah> $ tar -xjf Blue-1.4.tar.bz2
[03:46] <zhangyang> byebye
[03:46] <salah> I run fist 3 cmd
[03:46] <gnomefreak> salah: than as long as your termin is in home (default) it should work but here try this tar -xvfz blue <tab>
[03:47] <Toma-> salah, dont paste.
[03:47] <Toma-> salah, have you ever read the channel topic?
[03:47] <salah> no
[03:47] <gnomefreak> lol Toma- does anyone ;)
[03:47] <southern> re
[03:47] <gnomefreak> i mean other than us
[03:48] <gnomefreak> salah: type /topic in the channel to read it
[03:48] <southern> re
[03:48] <Toma-> note the little bit about pasting
[03:48] <Toma-> i read it all the time
[03:48] <gnomefreak> southern: can you try full sentences?
[03:48] <Toma-> first thing to read once the channel opens up
[03:49] <gnomefreak> i read it for the important notices
[03:50] <salah> what is my solution for mpplayer
[03:50] <gnomefreak> gopi: is it installing things?
[03:50] <cnkrtdsko> OMG!!! i need help. everything has gone horribly wrong!!
[03:50] <gnomefreak> salah: whats wrong with mplayer?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> salah: why does it have to be mpplayer (that ive never heard of)
[03:50] <Toma-> cnkrtdsko, sounds fun. explain plz...
[03:50] <_jason> !zh is <reply> #ubuntu-zh
[03:50] <ubotu> _jason: i'm not going to learn illegal characters
[03:50] <gnomefreak> lol @ fun
[03:50] <_jason> oh...
[03:51] <gnomefreak> lol nice try tho
[03:51] <Protocol1> hello
[03:51] <cnkrtdsko> i installed ubuntu. everything there is fine. but when i try to log back in to windows i get a "cannot find autochk...skipping autocheck" error then the blue screen of death
[03:51] <Toma-> ubotu, zh is #ubuntu-zh
[03:51] <ubotu> okay, Toma-
[03:51] <geniusvicks> Does anyone know a keyboard shotcut for changing the workspace
[03:51] <elkbuntu> mbr issue, tasty
[03:51] <salah> tar -xjf Blue-1.4.tar.bz2 this is not working
[03:51] <Toma-> wtf is autocheck....
[03:51] <cnkrtdsko> i have NO idea lol
[03:52] <elkbuntu> it'll be something to do with the mbr
[03:52] <southern> Toma- I tried without sudo
[03:52] <geniusvicks> Does anyone know a keyboard shotcut for changing the workspace
[03:52] <gopi> gnomefreak: still downloading 78% over.... I will update you regularly
[03:52] <gnomefreak> gopi: ok thank you i was gonna go smoke thats why i asked
[03:52] <gnomefreak> than i shall return :)
[03:52] <Toma-> cnkrtdsko, tried to google the error message?
[03:52] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok sure :)
[03:53] <Xappe> geniusvicks: in gnome, ctrl + alt + <left or right arrow>
[03:53] <cnkrtdsko> also, i dont know how to: change the clock in ubuntu (i click on adjust time and date, but nothing happens), i cant access the other partitions...in fact it doesnt even show that i have a harddrive
[03:53] <cnkrtdsko> im googling it now
[03:53] <southern> gnomefreak do you have problems?
[03:55] <WKC> i tried to install a kernel module to use my wireless card and i got this message: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/25 , has someone any idea what i am doing wrong?? PVT
[03:55] <geniusvicks> Thanks Xappe
[03:55] <Xappe> geniusvicks: np, have fun :)
[03:55] <Toma-> WKC, tried module-assist?
[03:55] <gnomefreak> southern nope not at all why do you ask?
[03:55] <k31th> afternoon
[03:56] <Toma-> WKC, tried actually using ubuntu? and not fedora?
[03:56] <WKC> fedora
[03:56] <k31th> sux
[03:56] <WKC> [Toma-] : fedora 4
[03:56] <gnomefreak> WKC: we dont do fedora problems join #fedora
[03:56] <Toma-> WKC, this is a ubuntu help channel... not fedora
[03:57] <geniusvicks> Does anyone use Blender here?
[03:57] <k31th> y not use a free distro
[03:57] <WKC> yes, most Fedora no response
[03:57] <_jason> geniusvicks: I just started, there's also #blender and #blenderchat iirc
[03:57] <Toma-> k31th, fedora is free....
[03:57] <k31th> humm
[03:58] <gnomefreak> fedora is free   redhat is not free
[03:58] <Protocol1> yo
[03:58] <gnomefreak> sure you can find redhat for free somewhere
[03:58] <k31th> think ill stick with debian ubuntu gentoo
[03:58] <Toma-> why is everyone so against people making money from linux :/
[03:58] <k31th> its called centos
[03:58] <neoginn> anyone know where i can get unbutu artwork????
[03:58] <pcdog> hi
[03:58] <k31th> im not
[03:59] <gnomefreak> Toma-: not against it at all
[03:59] <_jason> !art
[03:59] <ubotu> art is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork
[03:59] <pcdog> does anybody can help me with source based routing?
[03:59] <geniusvicks> thanks jason
[03:59] <neoginn> thanks
[03:59] <k31th> i dont like rpm based distros
[03:59] <Toma-> OMG mandriva make a product you have to buy!!! EVIL
[03:59] <pcdog> i have vpn connection that doesnt gets connections
[03:59] <salah> I have failed to install skin of mplayer.How canI do that
[03:59] <Protocol1> yo
[03:59] <Biafra> does anyone have any experience in using AOL (either via penggy or Wine-ing the AOL 7 client) as a primary net connection on Ubuntu?
[03:59] <gnomefreak> me neither altho i have a bunch of them just not installed ;)
[03:59] <k31th> Toma-: i dont use mandriva cuz its shit
[03:59] <_jason> salah: put it in ~/.mplayer/Skin/
[04:00] <k31th> and id rather use a distro thats free
[04:00] <Toma-> i hate it when come in here all angry and get angry at us for not supporting them... when if they NEED support, they should pay for it. not get angry at us free-helpers :(
[04:00] <k31th> yes
[04:00] <Toma-> k31th, how is ubuntu free?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Toma-: your kidding right?
[04:01] <salah> whr i have to do that/
[04:01] <k31th> im not even going to answer that
[04:01] <Protocol1> trying to get my colors right
[04:01] <Toma-> u know canonical have to make money from somewhere...
[04:01] <gnomefreak> Toma-: ubuntu is free in every sense of the work (for us) mark pays people
[04:01] <Protocol1> yo
[04:02] <gnomefreak> Toma-: they make money by donation
[04:02] <Biafra> right now I'm stuck using Windows and AOL but I've tried Ubuntu (hoary) before and liked it with one exception: The inablility to use anything except AOL
[04:02] <nw> gday, anyone around with a clue? i aint got one :P
[04:02] <Biafra> err... unable to use AOL
[04:02] <Biafra> sorreh
[04:02] <Toma-> rightio.
[04:02] <_jason> salah: ~ just mean $HOME, so you can go to your home directory, show hidden (ctrl-h), go to '.mplayer', then go to 'Skins' or create it if it doesn't exist.  Then extract the tar.gz in there
[04:02] <gnomefreak> Biafra: use breezy and there is something in repos that allows you to use alo
[04:02] <gopi> gnomefreak: lol I was watching TV in xawtv and I did ful screen and minimized and again full sized and it hung up ... so had to restart :(
[04:02] <gnomefreak> Biafra: i dont remember what the packages are for or called but i remember seeing them
[04:02] <nw> I've been trying to install breezy onto a free partition, but i cant see my drives in the partition program when installing..
[04:02] <Protocol1> test
[04:03] <k31th> AOL... get a real isp
[04:03] <nw> one of my drives is SATA, i belive people have had problem with that?
[04:03] <gopi> gnomefreak: but luckily download is starting from where it got broke !
[04:03] <damian_> is tehre a way to change it so i can type in nautilus's adress bar
[04:03] <Biafra> gnomefreak: i remember what packages I need, it's just that Penggy is in Universe...
[04:03] <gnomefreak> gopi: you may need to do the updates again if they all downloaded all they wil do is install
[04:03] <_jason> damian_: ctrl-l
[04:03] <k31th> they let aol users on freenode now ?
[04:03] <Toma-> meh. cyas
[04:03] <Protocol1> yo
[04:03] <damian_> thx
[04:03] <Biafra> doesn't that require me to have a pre-existing net connection?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> Biafra: enable universe repo than
[04:03] <gnomefreak> Biafra: yes
[04:04] <gopi> gnomefreak: yes I did run sudo apt-get upgrade and it started download from 90%
[04:04] <damian_> _jason: a way to keep it that way?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> gopi: cool
[04:04] <Ekushey> can anyone help me with a issue with .htaccess file?
[04:04] <salah> inside .mpplayer there is no skins
[04:04] <_jason> damian_: option in ssystem tools > configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/<something I can't remember, tell me if you don't find it>
[04:04] <Biafra> gnomefreak: is their any way of getting the universe reop w/o needing a pre-existing net connection? AOL is my primary net connection
[04:04] <gnomefreak> Biafra: no
[04:04] <damian_> ah thx
[04:05] <gopi> gnomefreak: its over but it said (Reading database ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[04:05] <gopi> gnomefreak: at the last...
[04:05] <gnomefreak> gopi: paste it all in pastebin please
[04:05] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok
[04:05] <Biafra> gnomefreak: can you install the penggy deb file w/o needing the universe repo?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> all errors come witha  command to try
[04:05] <h3ax> .. so now its the 10th time ill ask =) ..... Anybody know about a issue with Ubuntu not changeing keyboard layout specifikation to Nordic so that typing *  is possible ?
[04:05] <damian_> :)
[04:06] <gnomefreak> Biafra: yeah download it but again need a net connection for it
[04:06] <Biafra> not a problem
[04:06] <damian_>    apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry :Unknown command
[04:06] <_jason> damian_: ? what said that
[04:06] <gnomefreak> Biafra: never done this before but try to download it from another pc and burn it to disk see if you can use the disk to install it
[04:07] <gopi> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9539
[04:07] <moonlite> how do i check if my laptop has bluetooth support. It is supposed to have it according to the manufacturers homepage
[04:07] <damian_> excuse the unknown command bit xchat tried to run it as a / command i think
[04:07] <_jason> damian_: oh so it worked
[04:07] <damian_> yeah thanks
[04:07] <Biafra> gnomefreak: already have the deb file (DL'd the hoary and the (soon to be sent to me) breezy versions)
[04:07] <gopi> gnomefreak: shall I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and see?
[04:08] <gnomefreak> gopi: run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again
[04:08] <gnomefreak> Biafra: if you want to run the breezy version you will need breezy
[04:08] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok :(
[04:08] <gnomefreak> gopi: are you sure there is a mythtv for 64 bit?
[04:09] <xordae> I'm in the SysV runlevel config right now, and changed something for the "halt" command by accident.. anyone know what it should be set to?
[04:09] <Biafra> gnomefreak: i know, i just ordered breezy over shipit, plus I have hoary already
[04:09] <salah> Do I need to creat any folder inside the .mplayer
[04:09] <kakei> hi i downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/dapper-live-i386.iso but i dont have CD's already but i have Dvd's if i burn it on a DVD it will work?
[04:10] <damian_> any way to make rightclick commands "open in terminal" & "terminal here" first for files second for folders.
[04:10] <gnomefreak> kakei: you would need the dvd image not the cd image
[04:10] <kakei> gnomefreak, where is the dvd image..
[04:10] <gnomefreak> kakei: im not sure if there is one since dapper is not been released yet
[04:10] <gopi> gnomefreak: oops dont know about that !  Anyway when I did "sudo apt-get update" it showed something... plz see it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9540
[04:11] <cnkrtdsko> hey guys, realllllllly newb question. when i see you guys talking about entering things like sudo this or sudo that, what are you talking about? where do i put all those commands in?
[04:11] <damian_> _jason your a developer?
[04:11] <Biafra> gnomefreak: is the security repo included in the install CD?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Biafra: not really sure
[04:11] <_jason> damian_: nope
[04:12] <pitti> Biafra: that would not make sure at all
[04:12] <damian_> 0 ops i get it thaught underscore was an op
[04:12] <pitti> Biafra: s/sure/sense/
[04:12] <salah> very uncomfortable this linux
[04:12] <damian_> wat they need for the next release is what i just said
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gopi: you can go into the /etc/apt/sources.list again and put a # infront of the backports repo and run sudo apt-get update after you save it
[04:12] <xukun> I,m getting few errors while the system is booting(the kernel I think) where can I find those errors after system startup?
[04:12] <salah> simple mpplayer installation taking my whole day
[04:12] <damian_> ability to rightclick and go terminal here
[04:12] <pitti> Biafra: if we had known the vulnerabilities in current *-security archives at the time of the release, we had fixed them right away :)
[04:12] <damian_> like kde does
[04:12] <cnkrtdsko> hey guys, realllllllly newb question. when i see you guys talking about entering things like sudo this or sudo that, what are you talking about? where do i put all those commands in?
[04:12] <_jason> salah: are you following the wiki guide?
[04:12] <damian_> but as standard
[04:12] <pitti> xukun: /var/log/kern.log
[04:13] <xukun> pitti, thanks
[04:13] <_jason> chii: app menu > accessories > terminal
[04:13] <salah> which wiki guide sir?
[04:13] <_jason> cnkrtdsko: ^
[04:13] <_jason> chii: apologies
[04:13] <gnomefreak> damian_: you have to install a terminal that does that and off hand i dont remember the name of it but its a context menu terminal
[04:13] <Biafra> pitti: reason I ask is that penggy requires debconf which requires perl-base which is in the security repo
[04:13] <cnkrtdsko> thank you :)
[04:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell salah about mplayer
[04:13] <gopi> gnomefreak: sorry command to open /etc/apt/sources.list plz ?
[04:14] <damian_> couldnt you make a medu using a nautilus config somewhere?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> gopi: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <damian_> xter "some directory"
[04:14] <cnkrtdsko> _jason, are you really good with ubuntu? im having problems with my router...
[04:14] <damian_> xterm "some directory"
[04:14] <pitti> Biafra: the CD contains perl-base, of course; -security has just a newer version
[04:14] <damian_> or xterm "$dir"
[04:14] <thenuke> My friend asks how to switch out from UTF-8 since ppl in IRC are complaining about that to him :)
[04:14] <_jason> cnkrtdsko: just ask the channel, if I know, I will try
[04:15] <gnomefreak> damian_: not sure never tried it but im sure enough hacking around you can do it
[04:15] <gnomefreak> <<<finds it easier to apt-get install
[04:15] <Biafra> pitti: hmmm.... is there any way I can install the deb file manually?
[04:15] <cnkrtdsko> ok well i have the D-Link Airplus DWL-G122 802.11g wireless USB adapter...and its not letting me connect...like i dont know how to get it to run.
[04:15] <polymatrix> does anyone here know of a way to download all the compiler/development .debs at once, because thus far i've been trying to download each one at a time, and then it turns out that some of those .debs require .debs and so on(why don't the just put them together, i just want to be able to compile), please any help would be appreciated?
[04:16] <pitti> Biafra: what do you want to do? sudo aptitude install penggy, or using the graphical tools should just do the right thing?
[04:16] <xukun> pitti, the error or say the things I,m seeing while booting the system is not what is in /var/log/kernel.log
[04:16] <LjL> polymatrix: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[04:16] <gnomefreak> polymatrix: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:16] <gopi> gnomefreak: wow atlast sudo apt-get update was successfull ! :)
[04:16] <gnomefreak> :) gopi
[04:16] <pitti> xukun: erm, sorry, I mean /var/log/boot.log
[04:16] <gnomefreak> now run apt-get dist-upgrade again
[04:16] <damian_> ill tslk about getting it a standard feature
[04:16] <LjL> polymatrix: (and why are you downloading debs *manually* anyway?)
[04:16] <gnomefreak> lol LjL i gave up asking why
[04:17] <LjL> gnomefreak: =)
[04:17] <Biafra> pitti: since the penggy deb file is in the universe repo, would I have to have the universe repo to be able to install penggy?
[04:17] <xukun> pitti, there is no /var/log/boot.log
[04:17] <pitti> Biafra: yes, that would make it considerably easier
[04:17] <damian_>  gnomefreak who?
[04:17] <bilange_> lol @gnomefreak - where did you see this? :)
[04:18] <gopi> gnomefreak: So sudo apt-get update is over... now what should i do ?
[04:18] <gnomefreak> damian_: someone came in before with fedora issues
[04:18] <Nazgob> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:18] <jono> anyone know if there are still problems with the ati mobility propreitary drivers and Xgl causing corruption?
[04:18] <LjL> well perhaps they think ubuntu is yummy
[04:18] <gnomefreak> gopi: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:18] <damian_> funny
[04:18] <pitti> xukun: hm, odd; then I'm afraid you have to look in /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/syslog (they contain a whole lot of other logs, though)
[04:18] <Biafra> pitti: therein lies the issue for me: AOL is my only means ot connect to the net, and I need Penggy to do so, but it's in the universe repo which needs a net connection just to get the repo
[04:19] <gopi> gnomefreak: Again Need to get 21.2MB/43.3MB of archives ... lol
[04:19] <Biafra> pitti: that clear matters?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> once its finished it should be easy enough to install mythtv at that point (unless there is a reboot requirded
[04:19] <gnomefreak> gopi: go for it it will start where it left off
[04:19] <sedric> will ubuntu run ok on a P2 250mhz?
[04:19] <sedric> 350MHZ
[04:19] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok :)
[04:19] <gnomefreak> sedric: how much ram?
[04:19] <sedric> 7xx MB
[04:19] <LjL> Biafra: hm perhaps i'm missing something, but can't you just download the stuff in advance?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> yes
[04:19] <sedric> i think 750
[04:20] <sedric> ok cool
[04:20] <LjL> sedric: yeah it will
[04:20] <gnomefreak> sedric: should run fine
[04:20] <gnomefreak> lil slow maybe but run fine
[04:20] <sedric> gnomefreak: thanks!! i
[04:20] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:20] <Nazgob> I have a *.jar file that should be Java install program for JEdit42(i can't use apt now). What should I do with it? Gnome whats to unpack it...
[04:20] <gnomefreak> <<<p2 450mhz 512 ram runs great here
[04:20] <LjL> Nazgob: "java -jar filename.jar"
[04:20] <LjL> Nazgob: possibly, "java -jar filename.jar -cp ."
[04:21] <sedric> gnomefreak: ok great thanks
[04:21] <Nazgob> hmm, gonna try it, thx. I was using wrong parameters
[04:21] <tenco> hi
[04:21] <Biafra> pitti: i have the .deb files, but since i can't get the repo to install penggy in aptitude or the GUI w/o a net connection, how can I install the .deb file?
[04:21] <tenco> test
[04:21] <sedric> gnomefreak: ubuntu is  a desktop environ hey, not ideal for server stuff?
[04:21] <Bilange> dpkg -i file.deb
[04:21] <pitti> Biafra: aah, I see; dapper will make this quite easy (in the file manager)
[04:21] <gopi> gnomefreak: I think Goldfisch once said he has mythtv for his AMD64 system.... So i guess it must be there ?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> is there an html editor that has view while you type  (dont remember what its called off hand)
[04:21] <gnomefreak> sedric: its good for both
[04:21] <pitti> Biafra: for now, use 'sudo dpkg -i yourpackage.deb'
[04:22] <aeon17x> Dreamweaver?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> gopi: that im not sure about
[04:22] <Bilange> argh-- i always forget about sudo :P
[04:22] <Biafra> pitti: thanks
[04:22] <gnomefreak> aeon17x: you know better
[04:22] <LjL> Biafra: just be sure that you have the correct dependencies as well, and you will be fine
[04:22] <sedric> gnomefreak: really? so would you run a webserver on it?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> dreamweaver dfoes run in linux
[04:22] <polymatrix> cool...thank you
[04:22] <gnomefreak> sedric: yes i would
[04:22] <LjL> sedric: why not?
[04:22] <sedric> just wondering thats all
[04:23] <LjL> sedric: packages in main get quite timely security fixes
[04:23] <sedric> not to sure wat are good server distros and which arnt. i just know some are aimed more at desktop while others seem betta for server
[04:23] <gnomefreak> sedric: most of the packages you get from synaptic if not all of them come from ubuntu servers
[04:23] <sedric> gnomefreak: ok great :-d
[04:23] <sedric> then it seems like its a bit of a all rounder hey?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> sedric: bsd is make for a server (in general)
[04:24] <gnomefreak> ubuntu has both options
[04:24] <Protocol1> does anyone else in here use limewire?
[04:24] <Bilange> well.. basically it was first made for desktop use, but you can tweak your installation to be anything you want after all
[04:24] <LjL> sedric: ubuntu is aimed more at the desktop. but otoh ubuntu comes from debian, and debian was always strong for server use, and while ubuntu might be slighly more cutting-edge than debian stable, it does get security updates even faster than sometimes debian does
[04:24] <nw> can anyone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137577 ?
[04:24] <sedric> Protocol1: i used to, but dropped it a while back. not a bug fan
[04:24] <nw> i think im having problems with the install and partition because i have SATA ?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: ask the question maybe someone will know
[04:25] <nw> i would like to install on a 80gb IDE drive thou..
[04:25] <Protocol1> sedric, it does spread virii to your linux?
[04:26] <Morfosomo> as a rule of thumbs i have found out that splitting disks into 40gb or less helps with some disk formating issues
[04:26] <sedric> Protocol1: not sure about that (dont think so) just didnt like it much, and found torrents so kinda left the p2p scence a bit
[04:26] <Morfosomo> Protocol1, linux=no win virus
[04:26] <gopi> nw: I too installed Ubuntu on a 80 GB SATA drive only
[04:26] <gnomefreak> Morfosomo: unless your running a win server type app
[04:26] <Protocol1> was going to say bugs as in crashes/unsupport
[04:27] <Protocol1> if that was what he meant
[04:27] <Protocol1> heh
[04:27] <nw> you guys ignoring me for a reason ? :(
[04:27] <Zoroaster> good day, everyone
[04:27] <xordae> hey, a little problem.. i used sysv-rc-conf, and now when I wanna reboot, it shuts down after it says that Gnome unloads..
[04:27] <LjL> nw: yeah, the reason for me being that i have no SATA drives. however, gopi just replied to you
[04:28] <gnomefreak> nw: 2 people answered you already
[04:28] <Morfosomo> gnomefreak, but then,. isint that in a way still in windows?
[04:28] <salah> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061...I am using this link to setup mplayer
[04:28] <ndlovu> I'm wrapping my head around what it would take to enable https on my ubuntu-based apache webserver. any pointers to quick, easy howto's?
[04:28] <sedric> does ubuntu not support sata?
[04:28] <salah> but I am unable to setup skin
[04:28] <gnomefreak> Morfosomo: i think it is in both at that point
[04:28] <sedric> i am sure it does?
[04:28] <nw> i wasnt aware Morfosomo was talking to me..
[04:28] <nw> i assume now, they are :P
[04:28] <gnomefreak> you can get a cirus in linux but it may not work like it should
[04:29] <gnomefreak> sedric: yes kind of
[04:29] <gnomefreak> virus even
[04:29] <sedric> gnomefreak: kinda?
[04:29] <sedric> gnomefreak: Thats not a real answer
[04:29] <nw> My problem at the moment isnt actually with the formating, I cant SEE the drives when installing..
[04:29] <gnomefreak> sedric: it supports it but im not sure how much of it works
[04:29] <ndlovu> I'm looking to setup self-signed https with apache... and looking for the easy way in ;)
[04:29] <nw> ubuntu install wont let me choose a hdd to install on
[04:29] <Morfosomo> thats what i mean,.. the code may "get in" but it wont execute,. and if you are running some win32 platform vm api or emulator,. its still restricted to the guest operating system
[04:29] <gnomefreak> sedric: i never used an sata drive
[04:30] <Zoroaster> how does one view disk usage?
[04:30] <nw> What im trying to do is, install it on the IDE drive.
[04:30] <sedric> gnomefreak: ok, well hopefully they will adopt it soon
[04:30] <gnomefreak> Morfosomo: yes i think that is right but either way it can screw up the server app
[04:30] <LjL> Morfosomo: except wine, i suppose
[04:30] <snowblink> Zoroaster, df -h
[04:30] <snowblink> Zoroaster, or du
[04:30] <gnomefreak> sedric: supposed to be good in dapper but again dont have one
[04:30] <LjL> Morfosomo: (though i really doubt that many viruses would *run* on wine)
[04:31] <Morfosomo> LJL wines control by default only works on the c: <_____ directory in /.wine
[04:31] <gnomefreak> just keep in mind .exe files are great places to find viruses
[04:31] <Morfosomo> i think want i want to say is : Linux is not afgfected by win virii
[04:31] <Zoroaster> snowblink, thanks
[04:31] <gnomefreak> so where ever you run  an .exe you can be affected in one way or another
[04:32] <nw> install windows, lose root, gain spyware and breed viri!
[04:32] <LjL> nw: install linux and gain rootkits ;)
[04:32] <nw> heh
[04:32] <nw> im trying.. :P
[04:32] <Morfosomo> nw your sata dilema tickles my fancy,. can you give me a sec?
[04:32] <koyoda> !sources
[04:32] <gopi> gnomefreak: hurray successfull !
[04:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:32] <gnomefreak> gopi:  :) its installed?
[04:32] <Morfosomo> does onyone know if the sony rootkit works on linux?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> or just the updates?
[04:33] <poingpoing> Hello, does someone know where to display the install date of a linux machine?
[04:33] <ezech> hi
[04:33] <gnomefreak> Morfosomo: someone does i remember them talking about it
[04:33] <gnomefreak> i just cant remember site or who it was :(
[04:33] <gopi> gnomefreak: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is successfull..... now I can try to install mythtv ?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> gopi: yes
[04:33] <auke> question: i've got 2 nic's and one wireless nic in my pentium III, when i check dmesg i see eth0: realtek, eth1:ADMtek Comet, eth2: Link up, 100Mbps, when finished booting, i run ifconfig, eth0 and eth2 are there, eth1 is missing, where dit it go?
[04:33] <gopi> gnomefreak: using sudo apt-get install mythtv right ?
[04:33] <dooglus> I can't get tar's --exclude flag to work.  Can someone help please?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> gopi: yeah try that first
[04:34] <ezech> ubuntu is compiled for i386? i486? i586?
[04:34] <gnomefreak> i686
[04:34] <auke> i'm using ubuntu 6.10 breezer
[04:34] <gnomefreak> auke: 5.10
[04:34] <ezech> neat
[04:34] <auke> gnomefreak, yeah ;)
[04:34] <gnomefreak> 5=2005 10=october
[04:34] <gopi> gnomefreak: sorry it wasnt successfull :(
[04:34] <dooglus> auke: no you're not.
[04:35] <Morfosomo> nw still around?
[04:35] <nw> yea..
[04:35] <nw> reading forums :/
[04:35] <Zoroaster> does Ubuntu come with CD burning software by default?
[04:35] <Zoroaster> if so, is it good, or is there better?
[04:35] <auke> what even happens when there
[04:35] <LjL> gnomefreak: uhm, you sure it's compiled for 686? what's the point of providing a 386 kernel then?
[04:35] <auke> 's and eth1, and then disappears?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> gopi: im not real sure how your gonna run it on a 64 i dont think its compiled for a 64bit system
[04:35] <auke> does it get's overwritten or something?
[04:35] <Ng> auke: what about if you run ifconfig -a  ?
[04:35] <nw> Morfosomo, pm ?
[04:35] <auke> Ng: still not there
[04:36] <wvelez> Hi...how can I tell which version of Xorg am I running?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> LjL: i just remember seeing i686
[04:36] <gopi> gnomefreak: oh :(
[04:36] <Ng> auke: weird, sounds like the interface is being deleted somehow
[04:36] <polymatrix> has anyone here tried installing the enlightenment window manager?
[04:36] <Ng> wvelez: dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[04:36] <nw> i dont think its going to let us PM..
[04:36] <wvelez> Ng: thanks
[04:36] <nw> private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems but you can always message a staffer. please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[04:36] <auke> yeah, could it be that i have to edit some IRQ settings or something in the bios?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> LjL: mythtv for 64bit? is it possible?
[04:36] <gopi> gnomefreak: xawtv is working.. so then why not mythtv ? :(
[04:36] <_jason> wvelez: Xorg -version, works too
[04:36] <auke> i have absolutely no freakin' clue how to fix something like this
[04:36] <Ng> auke: unlikely I would think
[04:36] <LjL> gnomefreak: no idea honestly
[04:36] <gnomefreak> gopi: mythtv may not be compiled for 64 bit
[04:37] <Ng> almost everything should compile fine for 64bit
[04:37] <prada> probably need to tell the processor to work in x86 emulation mode
[04:37] <gopi> gnomefreak: Anyway, is there any other TV applications available for 64 bit systems ?
[04:37] <auke> my card should be working out of the box say the docs
[04:37] <nw> Morfosomo: I'm not finding any easy solution to getting my HDD's visible for the install ?
[04:37] <nw> Morfosomo: I'm not finding any easy solution to getting my HDD's visible for the install ?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> gopi: there are alot of apps that wont run on 64bit  without a little work (alot of work in cases)
[04:37] <visik7>  how can I script events using hal/udev/hotplug/don'tknow ?
[04:37] <Ng> and the amd64 build of breezy includes mythtv
[04:37] <Ng> so I reckon you're ok
[04:37] <gnomefreak> gopi: look in synatpic
[04:37] <auke> so the problem really is with the initialization on a very low level so it seems
[04:37] <Morfosomo> 1) am looking into it 2) chill 3) while you wait you could register yourself with nickserv
[04:38] <gnomefreak> Ng: he cant get it for 64bit
[04:38] <Protocol1> is SELinux on this distribution of ubuntu?
[04:38] <Ng> gnomefreak: it's in multiverse
[04:38] <Protocol1> 5.10
[04:38] <gnomefreak> Ng: i know he has it enabled
[04:38] <nw> im chilled, just tired.. :( almost 3am.. take your time
[04:38] <gopi> gnomefreak: actually I need a good(popular) one .... because basically to record programs which is not working well in xawtv
[04:38] <Ng> gnomefreak: I can't get to my amd64 box atm to test, but pacakges.ubuntu.com clearly lists it
[04:38] <auke> Ng: is there some limit on network cards build in or something, that he'll simply remove the third one?
[04:38] <Ng> auke: nope
[04:38] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[04:38] <gopi> gnomefreak: so which can I can get ?
[04:39] <salah> How can I use Sshell in ubuntu?
[04:39] <Ng> gopi: could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin?
[04:39] <Ng> I'd guess that multiverse isn't properly enabled
[04:39] <auke> Ng: i'll remove one nic, and see what happens
[04:39] <Protocol1> !selinux
[04:39] <ubotu> Protocol1: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:39] <gnomefreak> gopi: i dont watch tv at my computer thats why i bought tvs
[04:39] <gnomefreak> Ng: i gave him the sources.list
[04:39] <gopi> Ng: ok
[04:39] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok :)
[04:39] <gnomefreak> gopi: ng should beable to help with this sorry
[04:40] <visik7> why this
[04:40] <visik7>  how can I script events using hal/udev/hotplug/don'tknow ?
[04:40] <visik7> sotty
[04:40] <visik7> sory
[04:40] <visik7> why this:
[04:40] <visik7> apt-cache unmet |wc -l
[04:40] <visik7> 1385
[04:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell visik7 about enter
[04:41] <gopi> gnomefreak: And one more thing, while I do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ..... a WARNING is being displayed in Terminal.. is that normal ?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> yes gopi
[04:41] <visik7> ...
[04:41] <Ng> yes
[04:41] <Nazgob> salah -> try ctrl+alt+F1 or oper terminal in Gnome...
[04:41] <trae> Does anyone here do any professional audio work under Linux?  And if so, what are the Inkscape and Gimp applications for the Linux audio world?
[04:41] <gopi> gnomefreak: ok
[04:41] <gnomefreak> i think proper command is gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:41] <hikenboot> TuxAtWork: not a question i can answer sorry
[04:42] <gnomefreak> trae: they are graphics apps not adio
[04:42] <gnomefreak> audio
[04:42] <trae> gnomefreak, I know that
[04:42] <trae> :P
[04:42] <gopi> Ng: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9544
[04:42] <gnomefreak> oh lo
[04:42] <trae> they are Photo$hop/Illu$trator killers  (gimp/inkscape)
[04:42] <seif> hello, i am downgrading from ubuntu64, i need all my my emails, which folder in .thunderbird should i backup in order to have all my emails on the new install?
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[04:46] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) cratel1: wether makes sence or not thats how mine is set up and works great
[04:46] (Ng/#ubuntu) linuxN00B: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad from the extra repositories? if not see the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[04:47] (Ng/#ubuntu) gopi: after you update/reload, search for mythtv in synaptic
[04:47] (asteroid/#ubuntu) root@ubuntu:~# apt-cache show linphone
[04:47] (asteroid/#ubuntu) Maintainer: Samuel Mimram <smimram@debian.org>
[04:47] (asteroid/#ubuntu) Version: 1.0.1-6ubuntu7
[04:47] (asteroid/#ubuntu)  For me the maintener of linphone paquet on Ubuntu is samuel. And I mail him because linphone is neear the 1.0.3, but he say me he do NOT package for ubuntu. WTF ??
[04:47] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) gopi: reboot before you do anything
[04:47] (DrX/#ubuntu) Can someone help me please?
[04:47] (gopi/#ubuntu) ok !
[04:47] (cratel1/#ubuntu) gnomefreak: is it set up as UNIX or CUPS?
[04:47] (linuxN00B/#ubuntu) I was using Xine is that ok?
[04:47] (YogSothoth/#ubuntu) Trying to make my wi-fi card work under Ubuntu. It a generic card using a Marvell 88w8335 chip. The card shows correctly in the hardware but not in the network manager. How can I add it to the network manager?
[04:47] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) Ng: we installed upgrades that require a reboot
[04:47] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) cups
[04:47] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) always cups
[04:47] (Protocol1/#ubuntu) !firestarter
[04:47] (ubotu/#ubuntu) Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[04:47] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) for me atleasr
[04:47] (auke/#ubuntu) Ng: it says ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC]  (IRQ's 2 3 5 5 etc... and then, disabled)
[04:47] (cratel1/#ubuntu) gnomefreak: do you specify a port?
[04:48] (auke/#ubuntu) Ng: so basically the BIOs isn't detecting the card right i guess
[04:48] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) cratel1: hold on a min
[04:48] (Ng/#ubuntu) asteroid: linphone is in the universe repository, which is things that are imported from debian, so he is the debian maintainer
[04:48] (X3n0n/#ubuntu) I think that my problem is based on a software configuration. It seems that in the game a button is pressed by another device (a pad maybe?)
[04:48] (Ng/#ubuntu) asteroid: you'd need to talk to the MOTU folks for Ubuntu universe packages
[04:48] (DrX/#ubuntu) I need to complete this install fast
[04:48] (asteroid/#ubuntu) MOTU ?
[04:48] (Ng/#ubuntu) auke: weird, perhaps try it in a different PCI slot?
[04:48] (Ng/#ubuntu) !motu
[04:48] (ubotu/#ubuntu) I heard motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[04:48] (gopi/#ubuntu) Ng: I searched for mythtv and it is there !
[04:48] (auke/#ubuntu) Ng: where do i set the pci=routeirq variable? /etc/sysctl.conf?
[04:48] <DrX> before my wife saw i've mess up her computer ;)
[04:48] <auke> Ng: i tried a different PCI slot, same problem
[04:48] <gopi> Ng: Without reload/update i mean
[04:49] <asteroid> Ng, when Universe will be update ?
[04:49] <Ng> auke: not sure, but that looks like a kernel option, so /boot/grub/menu.lst but please be careful editing that file
[04:49] <gnomefreak> cratel1: do you see your printer in the box in middle of page?
[04:49] <asteroid> on debian it is up to date
[04:49] <Ng> gopi: then it is available1
[04:49] <Ng> auke: ah
[04:49] <DrX> Is someone is listening to me at all?
[04:49] <Ng> asteroid: generally the ubuntu policy is not to update packages in a stable release unless it's a serious bugfix
[04:49] <X3n0n> anyone for my weird problem?
[04:49] <gopi> Ng: Its available but its not installed right ?
[04:49] <cratel1> gnomefreak: in the printers window for cups? Yes.
[04:49] <asteroid> ok. thx.
[04:49] <Ng> DrX: ask a question, if someone can help, they will
[04:49] <gopi> Ng: I need to install it right ?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> than use detected printer
[04:49] <Ng> gopi: correct
[04:49] <DrX> Easy
[04:50] <DrX> the system
[04:50] <DrX> dosn't boot
[04:50] <DrX> It just stop after loading the kernel
[04:50] <DrX> black screen
[04:50] <gopi> Ng: Ok first I will reboot... and then what should I do ?
[04:50] <Ng> gopi: search for mythtv in synaptic, right click on it and choose Install, then hit Apply and it will download/install it
[04:51] <ufo> gnomefreak: what should i do to get screem to work?
[04:51] <linuxN00B> Ng: I am running Gnome not KDE and I think that is the problem most of the help pages i have looked at
[04:51] <DrX> I'm using an Usb 2.0 Hd (80 giga full used to ubuntu)
[04:51] <takedown> anyone know why mysql depend on postfix?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ufo: nothing just wait this is what happens when you run a pre beta release
[04:51] <gopi> Ng: Ok I will do it after reboot... ok?
[04:51] <Ng> linuxN00B: shouldn't have anything to do with it
[04:51] <DrX> It seems the system doesn't like the fact to be in a Hd enclosure
[04:51] <X3n0n> is there a command to disable my gamepad?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ufo: they know about it they will fix it
[04:51] <cratel1> gnomefreak: okay I enabled "detect LAN printers" and it detects nothing. So now that I understand your question better...no my printer is not showing up.
[04:51] <Ng> gopi: yup
[04:51] <DrX> Is there a pacth to coretct that?
[04:52] <dradul> takedown, mysql doesn't depend on postfix, rather on mail-server-default which defaults to postfix, but yuo can install anyother MTA including a null-mailer.
[04:52] <DrX> It's a laptop and i cannot use the Internal Hd
[04:52] <ufo> gnomefreak: does this have something to do with sudo again? :)
[04:52] <gnomefreak> ufo: no its the program itslef
[04:52] <Protocol1> !dapper
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[04:52] <DrX> I' ve install the systeme with vmware
[04:52] <DrX> and it works fine
[04:52] <dradul> takedown, just make sure to install you MTA *before* mysql
[04:53] <gnomefreak> cratel1: click network printer than typew in the ip address of your router in the url space
[04:53] <DrX> Now it just want to know what i need to acommplish to make the system workable form an enclosure
[04:53] <takedown> dradul: ok
[04:53] <takedown> ty
[04:53] <ubuntu> hi
[04:53] <DrX> I can put it in an firewire enclosure if that can help
[04:53] <gopi> Ng: And one more thing... There are many package listed...mythbrowser, mythdvd, mythplugins, mythtv, mythvideo... etc.....
[04:53] <gnomefreak> than choose your printer from drop down and install drivers button hit it cratel1
[04:53] <X3n0n> why everybody ignores me?
[04:54] <gopi> Ng: So which one I need to Mark for Installation ?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> X3n0n: because theres over 600 people in here
[04:54] <Ng> gopi: pick the one just called mythtv, it'll pull in any of the others it requires
[04:54] <X3n0n> and noone can listen to me?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> X3n0n: if someone knows they will answer you
[04:54] <gnomefreak> X3n0n: no sound in here
[04:54] <Nazgob> maybe becouse yout hakish nick ?
[04:54] <cratel1> gnomefreak: tried all this. I'll have to try later. Gotta go. Thanks for the help.
[04:54] <X3n0n> funny
[04:55] <gnomefreak> X3n0n: if you want slower service use the forums please
[04:55] <X3n0n> i don't want
[04:55] <gopi> Ng: ok
[04:55] <X3n0n> i didn't ay that
[04:55] <X3n0n> say*
[04:55] <gopi> Ng: brb
[04:58] <Griff> anyone know the keyboard shortcut for switching workspaces? (assuming there is one)
[04:59] <astroraptor> hello :)
[04:59] <_jason> Griff: ctrl-alt-<arrow keys>, but it can be changed in system > prefs > shortcuts
[04:59] <DrX> ok in recovery mode i get that
[04:59] <_jason> Griff: s/shortcuts/keyboard shortcuts
[04:59] <Griff> ah, thanks _jason
[04:59] <astroraptor> is it possible for me to mount a ext3fs from the live CD? I'm trying to modify the bootloader for Geexbox. Unfortunately you cannot edit the menu.lst from their console :(
[05:00] <_jason> astroraptor: mount -t ext3 <device> <mount point>
[05:00] <LjL> what's the quick and dirty way to extract frames from /dev/videoX, if i know the resolution in advance?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> ufo: try bluefish or nvu they are both great html editors
[05:00] <DrX> please
[05:00] <ufo> gnomefreak: ok thx
[05:01] <linuxN00B> Ng: gstreamer is already installed
[05:01] <Stormx2> What is gam_server?
[05:01] <pcdog> something on KDE
[05:01] <pcdog> for media managing imho
[05:01] <Ng> linuxN00B: including gstreamer0.8-mad?
[05:01] <pcdog> @Stormx2
[05:01] <user01> mooo
[05:01] <LjL> pcdog: you mean "afaik"? :)
[05:01] <Ng> linuxN00B: although if you're using the xine backend that shouldn't matter
[05:02] <Stormx2> Can anyone else confirm that?
[05:02] <Ng> Stormx2: it's for applications to monitor files/directories for changes
[05:02] <fdr> hello... please, how can I install an utility to unrar a multi-volume archive under ubuntu 5.10 for amd64? thank you!
[05:02] <Stormx2> Ng: Oh. Can I restart it?
[05:02] <fdr> I tried enabling multiverse but couldn't find it...
[05:02] <Ng> fdr: install rar from multiverse
[05:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fdr about multiverse
[05:02] <Ng> Stormx2: sure
[05:02] <gopi> Ng: The following packages have unresolvable dependencies. Make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences.
[05:02] <Stormx2> Ng: how >_<
[05:03] <pcdog> Stormx2, it will restart on its own afair
[05:03] <Ng> Stormx2: kill it and it'll respawn itself
[05:03] <gopi> mythtv: Depends: mythtv-frontend but its not going to be installed. And similarly for backend
[05:03] <Stormx2> you had better be right :P
[05:03] <Stormx2> "kill gam_server" k?
[05:03] <LjL> while true; do killall gam_server; done
[05:03] <LjL> :)
[05:04] <gopi> Ng: Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade
[05:04] <Ng> Stormx2: no, killall gam_server
[05:04] <Ng> LjL: I'm sure you think that's funny, but it's really not
[05:04] <Stormx2> Ng: What would it have done ;_;
[05:04] <Ng> gopi: does it say which package have unresolvable dependencies?
[05:04] <Stormx2> i was about to do that..
[05:04] <Ng> Stormx2: continuously killed gam_server as it respawned
[05:04] <HammerBlade2020> does anyone know what the command is for the cups manager ?
[05:04] <Stormx2> Ng: Eeek
[05:04] <HammerBlade2020> or the hjps manager.
[05:04] <fdr> Ng, gnomefreak : I have enabled multiverse from synaptic... could it be that there is no rar for 64-bit ?
[05:05] <gopi> Ng: Thats what mythtv-frontend and mythtv-backend
[05:05] <Ng> fdr: ah, yes. you could try unrar-free
[05:05] <gnomefreak> !rar
[05:05] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:05] <Ng> gopi: hmm, I'm afraid I'm not sure then, like I said I'm not at my amd64 box then
[05:05] <Ng> s/then/now/
[05:05] <_jason> fdr: packages.ubuntu.com lists unrar-nonfree as available for amd64, can you put /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> gopi: try installing them using sudo
[05:05] <LjL> hey well guys, it's not too hard to see what "while true; do blah; done" would do after all :)
[05:06] <fdr> Ng, unfortunately unrar-free doesn't work for multivolume archives
[05:06] <Ng> LjL: it is if you don't know what any of it means
[05:06] <Ng> LjL: so I would suggest you save your "humour" for other places
[05:06] <DrX> ok thank you very much for the help
[05:06] <iceman> who can help me set up a like to a icon to start america's army game .... what file and run command ?
[05:07] <LjL> perhaps i should have said "the_world_does_not_end=1 kill_any_processes_named=killall ; while the_world_does_not_end; do `kill_any_processes_named` gam_server; done"  :P
[05:07] <fdr> _jason : thanks, it's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9546
[05:07] <Ng> LjL: I think you should just have stayed quiet ;)
[05:08] <tunaluso> boa tarde
[05:08] <iceman> what command line to run america's army ... ?
[05:08] <tunaluso> good afternoon
[05:08] <jetscreamer> q4
[05:08] <jetscreamer> but check /usr/local/bin , iceman
[05:08] <_jason> fdr: add `` multiverse'' to lines 19,20, 35,36, and you should add `` universe'' to line 9 as well
[05:09] <_jason> fdr: you only had multiverse enabled for backports is the reason why
[05:09] <iceman> jetscreamer not there ... it is in my home folder ... home/armyops ... but command line to launch i lack
[05:10] <gnomefreak> iceman: in one of the files it has will give you the cli command to launch it
[05:10] <humon> what is the default root password in  ubuntu 5.10 breezy? (i know the root user is disabled by default)
[05:10] <LjL> Ng: i think not. that command couldn't do any harm. and was followed by a smiley anyway
[05:10] <astroraptor> is it possible for me to mount a ext3fs from the live CD? I'm trying to modify the bootloader for Geexbox. Unfortunately you cannot edit the menu.lst from their console :(
[05:10] <gnomefreak> humon: your user password
[05:11] <LjL> humon: as such, there is no root password
[05:11] <_jason> humon: the root password is soemthing you cannot enter, the password is locked
[05:11] <Nazgob> just use sudo all the time
[05:11] <LjL> !tell humon about root
[05:11] <fdr> _jason, thx, I'll do that
[05:11] <Stormx2> astroraptor: Just use mount o.O
[05:11] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: Iam doing sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt
[05:11] <humon> ok, i just installed webmin, and when connecting to the webmin web interface, it asks for the root password. what should i do?
[05:12] <_jason> !webmin
[05:12] <astroraptor> Stormx2, that would be nice but it tells me it's not in fstab
[05:12] <ubotu> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount for webmin instructions for Ubuntu. Webmin runs on https://localhost:10000
[05:12] <Ng> not use webmin, it's really quite nasty ;/
[05:12] <Stormx2> astroraptor: hmm
[05:12] <iceman> gnomefreak dont find a howto .. just license's
[05:12] <humon> thanks :)
[05:12] <gnomefreak> iceman: it will be a readme or install file
[05:12] <gnomefreak> iceman: i dont think you will find them in your home folder either
[05:13] <richie_> I'm having trouble with Rhythmbox.  With some of my songs, it displays "Unknown Artist, Unknown Album."  I tried right clicking on the file and changing it from there, but it won't let me.  Does anyone know how I can do this?
[05:13] <LjL> richie_: do you have permissions on those files?
[05:13] <scarabisbored> hello all.  i've got a problem with wireless network using mobile centrino and was wondering if anyone could help
[05:13] <lusepuster> richie_:  RB doesn't support tag editing
[05:13] <fdr> _jason, it works, thank you!
[05:13] <richie_> What permissions do I need?
[05:13] <_jason> fdr: np
[05:13] <Ng> richie_: unfortunately rhythmbox can't edit id3 tags directly, you'll need to use something like easytag
[05:13] <gnomefreak> iceman: you should find them in /usr/locale/bin or /usr/bin/locale cant remember
[05:13] <iceman> gnomefreak it installed in user folders, not installed as root ...
[05:14] <richie_> Where do I download it?
[05:14] <LjL> richie_: permissions for writing. but as others are telling you, rythmbox doesn't do that anyway
[05:14] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: wow now getting sudo apt-get install mythtv-common
[05:14] <gnomefreak> iceman: yes thats what the /usr stands for
[05:14] <lusepuster> richie_: through synaptic, universe
[05:14] <LjL> !tell richie about apt
[05:14] <gnomefreak> gopi: that will do it
[05:14] <richie_> Richie knows about apt.  ^_^
[05:14] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: looks like all are interdependent !
[05:14] <LjL> richie_: then use it ;)
[05:14] <richie_> Good idea.  Thanks guys!
[05:14] <lusepuster> richie_: otherwise I'll recommend Amarok as your ausio player. It's KDE, but it rocks!
[05:14] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: And Iam slowly nearing destination? :)
[05:14] <gnomefreak> gopi: i think its just apt didnt want to grab the depends for you
[05:15] <LjL> richie_: if you ask "where can i download xyz", when xyz is in the reps, then you don't *really* know about apt :)
[05:15] <gnomefreak> apt has its weeks where its not happy and makes users not happy :(
[05:15] <gopi> gnomefreak: hmm lets hope for the best and keep our fingers crossed lol
[05:15] <iceman> gnomefreak i can go in home/armyops and see the files installed ... but what file to execute ?
[05:15] <richie_> Haha.  I'll remember to check apt next time.  Apt rocks!
[05:15] <Belboz99> Hey, how do I allow normal users access to a USB scanner?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> iceman: you wont find the README or INSTALL files in the home dir i dont think but feel free to look
[05:16] <richie_> I'll see you guys around.  Thanks for the help.
[05:16] <astroraptor> I guess there's no Volume Manager to make it possible for me at all to mount the other Linux partiton
[05:16] <LjL> Belboz99: do you know that SANE can function as a server? i would use that feature. make a local server that users can access.
[05:16] <Gator> quick Q...what is the default passwd for su
[05:16] <iceman> gnomefreak cant find a folder releater in the usr directory .... and i am looking
[05:16] <sandrinux> Ciao, I'm using xfce (from yesterday) . realy FAST... do you know if there is a way to be allerted when some package is to upgrade, as in Gnome from the red icon in the task-bar ?
[05:16] <LjL> !tell Gator about root
[05:16] <Belboz99> LjL, SANE does not have drivers for my scanner, I'm using Ed Hamrick's Vuescan
[05:16] <LjL> Belboz99: oh, i see.
[05:16] <sandrinux> ehm , sorry for my english...
[05:17] <Belboz99> LjL, I've been running Vuescan as root, but then I don't have permission to edit the files. :(
[05:17] <michael> hi
[05:17] <LjL> Belboz99: then i suppose you could just change the permissions for /dev/usb/whatever, though i'm not sure that's very safe
[05:17] <mikebot> so now that i have ubuntu installed, how can i start making it do things, like play mp3s and stuff..like where can i browse those addons?
[05:17] <gnomefreak> iceman: try locate <gamename> and see if a read me or install file is shown than follow the path to it
[05:17] <maki> hello guys
[05:17] <michael> german her'??????????
[05:17] <LjL> !tell mikebot about restrictedformats
[05:17] <astroraptor> well I guess I'll be off then
[05:18] <maki> ] could sb help me with ubuntu ?
[05:18] <LjL> !tell mikebot about shortapt
[05:18] <maki> im noob
[05:18] <sandrinux> !de
[05:18] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:18] <mikebot> LjL: thanks
[05:18] <michael> kk
[05:18] <fdr> one more thing: please, do you know if there is some howto telling how to install sun's java netbeans under amd64 ?
[05:19] <iceman> dang i need there irc link ... id ask them ..
[05:19] <mzuverink> Is there a way in gnome when you add a server connection via places<network servers to configure the connection to ignore passive ftp?
[05:19] <linuxN00B> Ng: I switched to gstreamer and installed it and it seems to be working now. thanks is that just because that is what works with my sound card?
[05:19] <Ng> linuxN00B: not sure, I've never tried amarok's xine backend, maybe it's just buggy
[05:20] <cxd> hey does anyone know if i can use cvs through a http proxy?
[05:20] <cxd> is using a tunnel the only way out?
[05:20] <Belboz99> hey, I still can't access my scanner as User :(
[05:20] <pr3t0r1an0> 05 what?
[05:20] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: mythtv-backend: Depends: mythtv-common (= 0.17-3) but 0.18.1-5 is to be installed
[05:20] <scarabisbored> hello all.  i've got a problem with wireless network using mobile centrino (ipw2200) on breezy and was wondering if anyone could help
[05:21] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: I installed common using sudo apt-get install mythtv-common and still its complaining something :(
[05:21] <gnomefreak> fdr: why netbeans when vim,emacs/eclipse are one stop shops for all programming needs
[05:22] <Davey> because eclipse sucks ;)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> gopi: you have the wrong version of the lib gopi see if synaptic has the version they want
[05:22] <bliss1> hello just everyone
[05:23] <fdr> gnomefreak : because I want a gui that makes me productive immediaely without having to hunt for the right plugins, and because I'm doing some group work and it was decided to go for netbeans.
[05:23] <mikebot> is rythymbox okay, or is there something better?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> fdr: than anjuta is good also there is xemacs and a gui vim
[05:23] <kuosi> have anyone program named cdemu??
[05:24] <Ng> mikebot: there are many mp3 players, which you like most is a personal choice :)
[05:24] <mikebot> Ng: how can i browse them?
[05:24] <e1ko> hello
[05:24] <kuosi> i use xmms
[05:24] <gnomefreak> but either way for netbeans you would need to refer to the java installing instructions for netbeans
[05:24] <Ng> mikebot: fire up synaptic and search for mp3 maybe. it'll find quite a lot
[05:24] <cxd> amarok... it rules.
[05:24] <fdr> I doubt xemacs and vim come with a gui visual designer, do they?
[05:24] <mikebot> Ng: okay thanks
[05:24] <cxd> though xfmedia isn't that bad either... fast and comes with a decent gui.
[05:25] <mikebot> Ng: and i can play mp3s from an ntfs, right?
[05:25] <LjL> mikebot, Ng: or "mp3 gnome" or "mp3 gtk" to restrict results a little
[05:25] <Ng> fdr: they're text editors, so no
[05:25] <LjL> mikebot: right
[05:25] <gnomefreak> they both do :)
[05:25] <gnomefreak> i have the gui vim
[05:25] <mikebot> LjL: i don't know what gnome or gtk is
[05:25] <gnomefreak> and i have had xemacs
[05:25] <fdr> Ng, perhaps it's a bit reductive to label emacs as a text editor, though ;-)
[05:25] <Ng> fdr: better than what I would normally call it ;)
[05:25] <gopi> gnomefreak: in Synaptic mythtv-common installed version is 0.18.1-5
[05:25] <bliss1> thanks 216.165.191.52
[05:26] <LjL> mikebot: gnome is your desktop environment. gtk is the library for your graphical interface
[05:26] <Ng> gnomefreak: maybe I mis-assumed what he was asking then, I figured he was referring to something like Glade
[05:26] <fdr> Ng, don't worry, i'm a vim type myself as well
[05:26] <mikebot> LjL / Ng: is there a way to copy my documents from ntfs so i can edit them here?
[05:26] <mikebot> LjL: ah
[05:26] <gnomefreak> Ng: never heard of glade but now that i do is it good?
[05:26] <fdr> gnomefreak, anyway, thank you for letting me know about some alternatives
[05:26] <e1ko> Is there any way how to configure what to do with windows that needs user attention? For example when someone highlights me at the irc? Sorry for my English explenation
[05:26] <LjL> mikebot: gtk gives you buttons, scrollbars, textboxes etc. gnome gives you the panel, the taskbar, integration between applications, etc
[05:26] <Ng> gnomefreak: it doesn't support enough gnome widgets imho, but yes it makes developing simple UIs far quicker
[05:27] <LjL> mikebot: of course, you can just copy files from ntfs like you'd normally do
[05:27] <LjL> !tell mikebot about cli
[05:27] <Protocol1> i know i probably asked this before but....evertime i boot into windows after coming from breezy......my time is off in windows...can someone help me fix this?
[05:27] <aa> hello
[05:27] <mikebot> LjL: okay thanks
[05:27] <gopi> gnomefreak: How to get the upgrade for mythtv-frontend ? sudo apt-get update mythtv-frontend
[05:27] <gopi>   ??
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Ng: in the repos?
[05:27] <bob_> hello how can i switch between keyboard layouts?
[05:27] <mikebot> LjL: do you know much about nvidia drivers?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> gopi: you need to downgrade not upgrade iirc
[05:27] <bob_> i have default gnome instalation
[05:27] <aa> I've update my breezy to dapper from another distro usin chroot now the network card and mouse doesn't works..any hint?
[05:27] <mikebot> btw, i just downloaded xmc-mad or whatever for playing audio files..how do i like run theat now?
[05:27] <LjL> mikebot: no, not really. but i just bought an nvidia card (two days ago) and installed the binary drivers - haven't had any problem getting them to work
[05:28] <cxd> Protocol1, that's because ubuntu thinks you're using gmt time, and adjusts with time zone
[05:28] <mzuverink> Protocol1: that is because Ubuntu config is set to system clock set to UTC and Windows is set to local time
[05:28] <gopi> gnomefreak: downgrade mythtv-common or  mythtv-frontend
[05:28] <gopi>  ??
[05:28] <mikebot> LjL: and you were able to get a higher resolution than default and stuff?
[05:28] <nickrud> Protocol1: edit /etc/default/rcS , and set UTC to No, I would expect. You'll need to reset ubuntu time
[05:28] <gnomefreak> gopi: the lib that it was complaining about
[05:28] <LjL> mikebot: yup, i'm running at 1400x1050
[05:28] <dooglus> Protocol1: look for 'UTC' in /etc/default/rcS
[05:28] <nickrud> Protocol1: once, if i remember correctly
[05:28] <gopi> gnomefreak: So how to do that ?
[05:28] <cxd> Protocol1, so right click on the date, adjust preferences and uncheck system clock set to UTC or something like that.
[05:28] <mikebot> LjL: what card?
[05:29] <LjL> mikebot: fx5200
[05:29] <mikebot> yuk, i don't like xmms
[05:29] <mzuverink> Protocol1: change the config in ubuntu to use local time and then set you clock to the right time and then try booting windows, it should be ok then
[05:29] <mikebot> is there a player like itunes that keeps record of all your mp3s?
[05:29] <mikebot> LjL: ah
[05:29] <jetscreamer> many
[05:29] <Griff> off to human sexuality class then to program some java! what a day!
[05:29] <mzuverink> mikebot:try amorok or rythmnbox
[05:29] <LjL> mikebot: doesn't rythmbox do that? thought it did. amarok and juk definitely do, but they're for KDE (an alternative to Gnome)
[05:29] <gnomefreak> gopi: im not sure if you can or not have you searched the lib in synaptic to see if it is there
[05:30] <cxd> bob_, try setxkbmap <layout name> to change the setup for all X apps
[05:30] <jetscreamer> you can install a couple kde apps if you want
[05:30] <mikebot> LjL: i think i have gnome
[05:30] <mikebot> LjL: hahah
[05:30] <Protocol1> cxd, did that
[05:30] <cxd> bob_,  that's for all gui apps.
[05:30] <LjL> mikebot: if your drivers are installed correctly and all, just type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answer the questions, and choose your desired resolution when asked
[05:30] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ you need an ipod-manager ?
[05:30] <linuxN00B> Ng: do you know what I can do if my cd/rw drive is not reading media cd's or dvd's
[05:30] <Protocol1> utc was unchecked so I checked it
[05:30] <mikebot> HammerBlade2020: yeah
[05:30] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[05:30] <mzuverink> mikebot:I prefer rythmnbox, but other prefer amorok, amorok is more like windows media player
[05:30] <LjL> mikebot: you surely have gnome, if you've got a default ubuntu (not kubuntu) installation. but you can still install KDE programs on it, though they will come with a lot of KDE libraries
[05:30] <mikebot> HammerBlade2020: thanks..i just type that in terminal?
[05:30] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ yes
[05:31] <LjL> mzuverink: in what way?
[05:31] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ but you'r going to need this, one second.
[05:31] <cxd> Protocol1, did it work? i think you should restarting as lots of programs behave weird that time just changed
[05:31] <mikebot> LjL: oh
[05:31] <dooglus> Protocol1: that's just a display flag.  the problem is that windows and ubuntu are using different timezones when they store the time on the hardware clock
[05:31] <mzuverink> mikebot: I use CastPodder for my Ipod and love it
[05:31] <mikebot> so many selections
[05:31] <mikebot> i wish i could see screenshots of these programs before hand
[05:31] <dooglus> cxd: ticking 'use UTC' doesn't change the system time, so it's not a problem.  it just changes how the clock in the corner looks.
[05:31] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ type sudo gedit /etc/fstab and paste this line on an empty line and save
[05:31] <gnomefreak> !ipods
[05:31] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[05:31] <gnomefreak> ipod
[05:31] <jetscreamer> if you do install a/some kde apps, get the khelpcenter one also
[05:31] <gnomefreak> !ipod
[05:31] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[05:32] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ /dev/sdg2       /media/ipod     vfat    noauto,sync,user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=022    0   0
[05:32] <mikebot> gnomefreak: thanks
[05:32] <gnomefreak> ^^ think somewhere there are screenshots
[05:32] <LjL> mikebot: just google for them, i'm sure you'll find as many screenshots as you like ;) anyway if you've got a decently fast connection, you could just install all of them and see, after all
[05:32] <mzuverink> mikebot:I just read an article in Linux Journal regarding CastPodder and tried it out and it really works better than anything I found
[05:32] <gnomefreak> banshee is kind cool
[05:32] <bob_> cxd: thanks where can i find the layout name?
[05:32] <HammerBlade2020> banshee sucks badly.
[05:32] <mikebot> HammerBlade2020: last time i edited a file like this it was the nvidia one, and i got fatal errors and could only get to command prompts
[05:32] <jetscreamer> do id and change the uid/gid if you're not 1000 ... you can use usernames also instead of the numbers
[05:32] <cxd> dooglus, it doesn't change system time, but eveyrithng in ubuntu readjusts time with your time zone if uses UTC is enabled
[05:32] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ trust me, you can paste a line :-D
[05:32] <mikebot> HammerBlade2020:  haha okay
[05:33] <mzuverink> mikebot:and therre is a .deb package for it
[05:33] <mikebot> mzuverink: i don't know what that is
[05:33] <dooglus> cxd: I disagree.  But there's no point arguing about it.
[05:33] <mzuverink> mikebot:a deb file is the intall package
[05:33] <cxd> bob_, just check /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... in the comments there, they've mentioned what the layouts are... i use dvorak... the name for that is dvorak itself.
[05:34] <mikebot> HammerBlade2020: okay, i pasted that
[05:34] <cxd> dooglus, as you say... gets the job done.
[05:34] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ to install a .deb file, in terminal type.. sudod pkg -i name.deb
[05:34] <Plouj_> does the amd64 version of ubuntu support hibernation?
[05:34] <HammerBlade2020> sudo dpkg -i name.deb *
[05:34] <mikebot> sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[05:34] <HammerBlade2020> yes
[05:34] <mzuverink> mikebot: to install CastPodder you get the deb file type "dpkg -i CastPodder*" in the download dir using a shell
[05:35] <mikebot> is sudo apt-get install gtkpod different than castpodder?
[05:35] <HammerBlade2020> yes
[05:35] <mzuverink> mikebot: it will then install the app
[05:35] <HammerBlade2020> gtkpod is a full itunes replacement for linux
[05:35] <mikebot> HammerBlade2020: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:35] <mikebot> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:35] <HammerBlade2020> need yo use sudo
[05:35] <HammerBlade2020> sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[05:35] <gnomefreak> mikebot: close synaptic?
[05:35] <HammerBlade2020> or that..
[05:35] <mzuverink> mikebot:CastPodder also manages rrs feed subscriptions for podcasts
[05:35] <HammerBlade2020> if you have it open
[05:35] <mikebot> mzuverink: heh, i don't knwo what that is
[05:35] <gnomefreak> mikebot:  if your updating you have to wait also
[05:36] <mikebot> gnomefreak: i'm done updating..but the syn window was still open
[05:36] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh
[05:36] <mzuverink> mikebot:CastPodder is a very good program for your ipod that manages music and connects to your ipod
[05:36] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ over time you won't use synaptic for anything but updates, apt-get is easier and more efficient
[05:36] <LjL> mikebot: there can only be a single application accessing the APT database at any given time
[05:37] <gnomefreak> im assuming ther eis no split screen html editors wher ei can preview site as im coding it?
[05:37] <LjL> HammerBlade2020: aptitude is even better. but anyway why would you use synaptic for updates?
[05:37] <thewhite1> I have a very loooong delay in gnome when i'm about to start any administrative program.
[05:37] <mzuverink> mikebot: like I said it is better than anything Ubuntu has in my opinion
[05:37] <HammerBlade2020> LjL~ synaptic is not the one that pop's up when their is a new kernel?
[05:37] <mikebot> mzuverink: okay thanks
[05:37] <HammerBlade2020> LjL~ then i mis-spoke slightly.
[05:37] <cnkrtdsko> does anyone here know how to get the d-link dwl-g122 802.11g wireless usb adapter working in ubuntu?
[05:37] <LjL> HammerBlade2020: oh, you mean automatic updates. yeah
[05:38] <HammerBlade2020> yes
[05:38] <HammerBlade2020> thats what i meant ;D
[05:38] <gnomefreak> the updater is ran in and by synaptic
[05:38] <bliss1> how can I check that port 22 is open --what to type on cmmand line
[05:38] <HammerBlade2020> autonomic nervous system
[05:38] <cxd> anyone knows hot to get cvs running with http proxy with only one port open...?
[05:38] <HammerBlade2020> damnit wrong window, stupid alt/tab :-p
[05:38] <LjL> bliss1: "telnet localhost 22". but then, that will only check if port 22 is open to localhost
[05:39] <James296> is it at all possible to be able to have the Ubuntu installation detect my wireless connection?
[05:39] <ubuntu_> aloha my bothers
[05:39] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ are you new to linux and or ubuntu ?
[05:39] <mzuverink> bliss1: got to shields up at grc.com ro net and have it scan your machine, it will give you a list of all publically open, closed and stealth ports
[05:40] <HammerBlade2020> mzuverink~ good advice, i love that website.
[05:40] <ubuntu_> i want to download some client for DC++ and there is a question..  "what linxu version u have ?" and nothing about ubuntu there :( what i should choice ?
[05:40] <LjL> except you can't use that kind of sites if you're behind NAT, like me is :(
[05:40] <xukun> what do you guys thinks about Automatix?
[05:40] <bliss1> LjL thanks
[05:40] <mzuverink> HammerBlade2020: cant configure a firewall without it!
[05:40] <HammerBlade2020> ubuntu_~ are you on breezy badger
[05:40] <HammerBlade2020> LjL~ yes you can?
[05:40] <HammerBlade2020> LjL~ just have to fiddle abit :-P
[05:40] <LjL> ubuntu_: is there a choice for debian?
[05:40] <ubuntu_> yes
[05:41] <LjL> HammerBlade2020: "fiddle" like in what?
[05:41] <HammerBlade2020> LjL~ router settings
[05:41] <bliss1> mzuverink thanks whats the url again  is it  just grc.com
[05:41] <ubuntu_> http://dcgui.berlios.de/download.php?distribution=1
[05:41] <LjL> ubuntu_: then that's probably your best bet. have you triple-checked that the program you need is not in the repos, though?
[05:41] <HammerBlade2020> ubuntu_~ if their is a .rpm for fedora core 3 some times those can be converted to .deb files for ubuntu with alien.
[05:41] <cxd> ubuntu_, try googling this - linux dc++ how to ubuntu
[05:41] <HammerBlade2020> but that's not advised.
[05:41] <ubuntu_> thx guys
[05:41] <cxd> ubuntu_, it's the first link
[05:41] <ubuntu_> :)
[05:41] <ubuntu_> right
[05:41] <cnkrtdsko> does anyone here know how to get the d-link dwl-g122 802.11g wireless usb adapter working in ubuntu?
[05:41] <mzuverink> bliss1: it is either grc.com or .net, if that is incorrect search google for "shields up"
[05:41] <LjL> HammerBlade2020: if that was my problem, then i would simply have *no* ports open except for those that already show up. but that's a different problem
[05:42] <thewhite1> ubuntu_: Use linux dc++ all others just don't work. I've trid them all.
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: use the debian download for valknut
[05:42] <HammerBlade2020> LjL~ well i use a switch now a days anyway, so i don't need to worry about NAT :-P
[05:42] <LjL> HammerBlade2020: i'm not behind a NAT that i can control, or a NAT that closes accesses from everybody
[05:42] <bliss1> mzuverink thanks
[05:42] <ubuntu_> i will..  thx
[05:42] <HammerBlade2020> LjL~ oh an ISP nat ? those are terrible.
[05:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:42] <mzuverink> bliss1: that site is very usefull for firewall creation and testing too
[05:43] <LjL> HammerBlade2020: yeah, if the NAT was my own, then i would be quite safe without even checking for open ports, as long as i know everything's closed by the router
[05:43] <cxd> ubuntu_, by the way, that google query gives you a clone of the windows dc++.
[05:43] <LjL> gnomefreak, ubuntu_: what's wrong with the repos version of valknut?
[05:43] <ubuntu_> :))
[05:44] <ubuntu_> i dont want a clone of windows dc++ :)
[05:44] <ubuntu_> i m bored of win
[05:44] <foxpaul> is it possible to get a total for the size of all the files returned from the find command?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> LjL: nothing i just went to the site and told him the one i would get
[05:45] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: libmyth-0.17 is displayed in left side under ALL when I searched for it but no corresponding package is displayed for it... So is there a way I can install package for it ?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> apt-get works even better
[05:45] <cxd> ubuntu_, lol... it's good. you like dc++ right... if you are looking for other similar clients. they're not dc++ clients, they are direct connect clients... dc++ is one particular client.
[05:45] <HammerBlade2020> afk i need to study on the nervous sytem
[05:45] <HammerBlade2020> toodaloo :-p
[05:45] <LjL> foxpaul: not that i know of (i mean unless you write a sort of complicated script). won't "du" do what you need?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> gopi: i dont think so but ng would know more
[05:45] <bliss1> mzuverink it seems theres plenty of reviews but you have to buy the product
[05:46] <cxd> ubuntu_, it's linux version will look the same as windows, pretty much... as it's made by nearly the same guys.
[05:46] <gopi> gnomefreak: hmm ok but this is killing me lol
[05:46] <gopi> gnomefreak: I think better I can go for some other application other than mythtv.....
[05:46] <gnomefreak> gopi: agreed
[05:47] <ecen> hello, i tried to compile a driver and found out that ubuntu kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4 but the cd does not include this version, only 4.0 :/  do you know where can i get 3.4 version?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ecen: synaptic
[05:47] <bliss1> mzuverink I just want to give it a quick test but not a option
[05:47] <JC_> ecen,  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ecen: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:47] <gnomefreak> JC_: thats 4.0
[05:48] <JC_> gnomefreak,  it includes the tools he needs to compile
[05:48] <LjL> foxpaul: try this one         ( find -printf "%k + " ; echo "0" ) | bc
[05:48] <HammerBlade2020> how do i correct
[05:48] <HammerBlade2020> an auto-correct error
[05:48] <HammerBlade2020> in abiword ?
[05:48] <ecen> gnomefreak: is that to get it through the network? because the driver im trying to compile is exactly the nic driver, so not network available
[05:48] <JC_> gnomefreak,  and resolve gcc 3.4 error he is getting
[05:48] <HammerBlade2020> it thinks corpus callosum is wrong..
[05:48] <LjL> foxpaul: though be careful - i only tested it with a relatively small amount of files, and i have a feeling it might crash with lots of files
[05:48] <gnomefreak> JC_: i thought you needed the right gcc for the build of your kernel as in if kernel was compiled in gcc3.4 4.0 wouldnt work
[05:48] <ubuntu_> cxd yes i read right now about it
[05:49] <xukun> is there a way to find out if package is available from another source?
[05:49] <ubuntu_> i and just saw a screen
[05:49] <ubuntu_> look nice
[05:49] <Definity> hi just downloaded what apprently was spose to be a movie file but its a php fiel i tryed to reneme it to a rar and it said its invalid ???? anyone know what is going on can anyone help me???
[05:49] <kchiefs> hello
[05:49] <gnomefreak> ecen: no you cant get either build-essential or gcc 3.4 without a net connection i dont think
[05:50] <gnomefreak> xukun: google
[05:50] <gopi> anyone recommend any other tv application ?
[05:50] <kchiefs> i have a question that is probly easy
[05:50] <pickett> how big's the file?
[05:50] <Definity> 4gig
[05:50] <mikebot> HammerBlade2020: gtkpod just uses another program to play music?
[05:50] <pickett> try renaming it to mpg or whatever it's meant to be
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mikebot about mp3
[05:50] <ecen> gnomefreak: can i search for gcc 3.4 form here? from windows? where can i find it?
[05:50] <HammerBlade2020> mikebot~ i'm not sure... i just use it for syncing with my ipod nano
[05:50] <gnomefreak> ecen: apt-cache gcc
[05:50] <mikebot> okay thanks
[05:50] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search gcc
[05:50] <kchiefs> i have set up a LTSP Breezy machine.  Doesn anyone know how to make the server boot to console, but allow the thinclients to get X
[05:51] <Definity> well it is a collection of movies
[05:51] <LjL> foxpaul: does seem to work even with large numbers of files anyway
[05:51] <JC_> gnomefreak,  apt-cache wont work in windows :P
[05:51] <Definity> thats in a archive or so i think
[05:51] <gnomefreak> JC_: i know
[05:51] <Definity> i doubt they have put them back to back on 1 file
[05:51] <ubuntu_> guys one more thing.  how can i move the screen a bit to the left .. i use a LCD 19"
[05:51] <LjL> ubuntu_: uh, doesn't you monitor have controls for that?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> ecen: go to packages.ubuntu.com
[05:52] <ubuntu_> nope :( its a samsung 970p
[05:52] <ubuntu_> no buttons
[05:52] <gnomefreak> search there for it see what repo its in
[05:52] <ubuntu_> just one for power
[05:52] <kchiefs> i have set up a LTSP Breezy machine.  Doesn anyone know how to make the server boot to console, but allow the thinclients to get X
[05:52] <LjL> ubuntu_: hm, i suppose your best bet would be creating a modeline... that's far from trivial though
[05:53] <ubuntu_> i see.. i will search for modeline after i will finish with dc++ client
[05:53] <ubuntu_> thx
[05:53] <cxd> kchiefs, try making gdm script in /etc/init.d/ not executable
[05:53] <JC_> System > preferences > screen resolution
[05:54] <cnkrtdsko> does anyone here know how to get the d-link dwl-g122 802.11g wireless usb adapter working in ubuntu?
[05:54] <osku> #ubuntu-fi
[05:54] <humon> is there an ac3 codec that works with totem movie player?
[05:54] <fatbrain> Hello, How do I get the kernel-source / headers for my system?
[05:54] <JC_>  ubuntu_  System > preferences > screen resolution
[05:54] <LjL> fatbrain: apt-cache search linux-source
[05:54] <JC_> hmm  nm that
[05:55] <cxd> fatbrain, synaptic. search.
[05:55] <am3r1ca> ANYONE HELP, i have a Speed Touch USB 330 and NO net !!!
[05:55] <jetscreamer> what?
[05:55] <fatbrain> LjL, cxd: ok thanks.
[05:55] <am3r1ca> ANYONE HELP, i have a Speed Touch USB 330 and NO net !!!
[05:55] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[05:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[05:55] <LjL> !tell am3r1ca about patience
[05:55] <am3r1ca> sorry
[05:56] <ecen> thank you all
[05:57] <kchiefs> cxd? would that still allow the thinClients to boot to X?
[05:57] <southern> hi again
[05:57] <southern> pls help to config samba
[05:58] <LjL> am3r1ca: google gave me these: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26017.html    http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/
[05:58] <LjL> perhaps they could be a starting point
[05:58] <southern> first of all I can't join to workgroup! why?
[05:58] <am3r1ca> LjL thanks, maybe i can be more concrete, i have a speedtouch.131.tar.gz file that i have exptraceted
[05:59] <brady_> VLC got bogged down trying to open at  mp3.  I did xkill on it.  no my sound don't work. How do I get it to work without rebooting?
[05:59] <am3r1ca> when i try to ./configure && make && make install
[05:59] <am3r1ca> it gives me weird errors
[05:59] <LjL> am3r1ca: are you sure you need that? there is a "speedtouch" package in universe as well
[06:00] <cnkrtdsko> does anyone here know how to get the d-link dwl-g122 802.11g wireless usb adapter working in ubuntu?
[06:00] <LjL> am3r1ca: i would first try with the "speedtouch" package and/or with the .deb file suggested at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo
[06:01] <mikebot> is there a way i can combine the two menus in ubuntu to make it look more like this: http://amarok.kde.org/index.php?set_albumName=album03&id=07_G&option=com_gallery&Itemid=60&include=view_photo.php
[06:01] <LjL> am3r1ca: i have a feeling that for solutions involving .tar.gz's you'd have to recompile the kernel, or something else nasty
[06:01] <southern> I can't access workgroup from windows machine! why?????
[06:01] <joachim-n> how do I mount a volume so I can write to it?
[06:01] <LjL> mikebot: yeah, just add a taskbar to your main panel / move stuff around. or install KDE if you like it better ;)
[06:02] <michael> wo gibs das deusche forum?
[06:02] <LjL> !de
[06:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:02] <mikebot> LjL: hehe, i don't know what kde is
[06:02] <michael> kk
[06:02] <kchiefs> i can't speak german
[06:02] <am3r1ca> how do i get the speed touch package from universe to a pc that has no net
[06:02] <kos__> theres issues with the 2006.0 livecd
[06:02] <LjL> mikebot: it's another desktop manager, like Gnome. specifically, it's the one i'm using, and it's the one that was used for that screenshot
[06:02] <gnomefreak> kchiefs: than dont use the #ubuntu-de channel :)
[06:02] <kchiefs> hehe
[06:02] <mikebot> LjL: oh, actually, is there a way i can change where it says "applications" "places" etc, to make them take up less space? like "Apps" etc
[06:03] <cxd>  kchiefs, should... don't know how to start x for a thin client though... give it a try... X runs with/without gdm being there. gdm just handles login. works locally. but for a thin client... not sure. a
[06:03] <LjL> am3r1ca: well, get to any Ubuntu mirror, and manually download pool/universe/s/speedtouch/speedtouch_1.3.1-1_i386.deb
[06:03] <mikebot> LjL: oh i can use it with ubuntu?
[06:03] <am3r1ca> how abou wget
[06:03] <LjL> am3r1ca: how about it?
[06:03] <LjL> mikebot: hmm, i think there is another applet that simply makes you have one single menu. search for it in the list of applets for your panel
[06:04] <am3r1ca> cant i wget and the then the link ???
[06:04] <mikebot> LjL: well i would rather just use kde
[06:04] <LjL> mikebot: anyway yeah, you definiteyl can install KDE in ubuntu. there is another sub-distribution called Kubuntu (the one i'm using) that comes with KDE instead of Gnome.
[06:04] <mikebot> LjL: if i can with ubuntu
[06:04] <LjL> mikebot: but even if you don't want to install that one, you can still type "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" and get kde
[06:04] <mikebot> LjL: what are the differences?
[06:04] <mikebot> LjL: oh okay
[06:04] <Makaraki> hi people whats going on?, I have one question, I can't heard the sound in the video.google videad even youtube videos
[06:05] <LjL> mikebot: i can't number the differences. they're two different environements. you could ask well ask what the difference are between the Windows desktop and the Ubuntu desktop
[06:05] <mikebot> LjL: ah okay
[06:05] <cxd> Makaraki, you need to set up sound for flash. it's there in the how to.
[06:05] <LjL> mikebot: except that in this case there's an advantage -- KDE apps actually run on Gnome and vice versa. though i much prefer only using KDE apps under KDE (and Gnome apps under Gnome, if i used Gnome)
[06:05] <mikebot> LjL: okay well it's being downloaded
[06:05] <cxd> Makaraki, also make sure you start up soundserver
[06:05] <mikebot> LjL: thanks
[06:06] <Makaraki> cxd: Is there in the wiki.ubuntu?
[06:06] <JC_> !flash
[06:06] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:07] <Definity> what dose teh eorror "The utillity unrar is not in your path" mean?
[06:07] <cxd> Makaraki, it's there in the starter guide... get it from the help in your ubuntu. an icon for that will be there in your top bar...
[06:07] <iceman> ok ho to fix this error ? anyone
[06:08] <iceman> iceman@icebox-1:~$ armyops
[06:08] <iceman> ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:08] <iceman> iceman@icebox-1:~$
[06:08] <LjL> mikebot: here is a quick screenshot of my kde desktop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9547  - unfortunately the pastebin reduces the resolution though
[06:08] <bliss1> hello again
[06:08] <Makaraki> cxd: I am almost 100% that I had install the flash plug-in in the firefox mozilla
[06:09] <Makaraki> cxd: I am almost 100% sure that I had install the flash plug-in in the firefox mozilla
[06:09] <nickrud> iceman: please don't paste, and sudo aptitude install libstdc++5
[06:09] <bliss1> whats the the name of the package that deals with the command for example ps aux
[06:09] <bliss1> ps utils is not the package according to apt-get install
[06:09] <am3r1ca> LjL sorry, but how do i log on ?? - am3r1ca: well, get to any Ubuntu mirror, and manually download pool/universe/s/speedtouch/speedtouch_1.3.1-1_i386.deb
[06:10] <iceman> nickrud sorry for the past, i know better but it was short ... i will not flood ...
[06:10] <LjL> am3r1ca: uh, you don't need to log on anywhere
[06:10] <LjL> am3r1ca: just download http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/speedtouch/speedtouch_1.3.1-1_i386.deb
[06:11] <nickrud> iceman: yeah, I just wanted to pick on you. 
[06:11] <mikex> how do i stop ubuntu from sync'ing to the time server on bootup?
[06:11] <am3r1ca> thanks
[06:11] <am3r1ca> i was complicating
[06:11] <Mastastealth> mikex: Get a program called sysv-rc-conf
[06:11] <Drayzee> Hi all
[06:11] <Mastastealth> mikex: once you get that installed scroll down the list to find one called...ntupdate
[06:12] <mikebot> LjL: i copied files (*.sxw's) to my desktop on this, but theya re still read-only for some reason
[06:12] <mikex> Mastastealth: got it looking now. thanks.
[06:12] <LjL> am3r1ca: note that speedtouch seems to depend on ppp and libatm1, so be sure you have those installed, or get them as well
[06:12] <am3r1ca> ok tahnks
[06:12] <cxd> Makaraki, it's after that... do this 'sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1'
[06:12] <Mastastealth> mikex: np, check this thread out to speed up boot by disabling some other things http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&highlight=sysv-rc-conf
[06:12] <LjL> mikebot: "sudo chown yourusername filename"
[06:12] <Makaraki> cxd: thanks I will try just now
[06:12] <LjL> mikebot: and then if it still doesn't work "chmod +rw filename"
[06:13] <foxpaul> cheers for the input LjL
[06:13] <mikebot> LjL: okay thanks
[06:13] <edson> speak portuguese
[06:13] <mikebot> is there a notepad type program in ubuntu
[06:13] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: E: mythtv-database: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:13] <marlun> The "Save As..." dialog thats in for example gedit, is it possible to change so that "browse for other folders" section is expanded by default? Now I have to expand it everytime i'm not in the folder I want to be.
[06:13] <Drayzee> I'm trying to install netscape and having troubles
[06:13] <LjL> mikebot: gedit
[06:14] <edson> halo
[06:14] <ubuntu_> guys by anychance i will be able to make my tunner to work with ubuntu ?
[06:14] <foxpaul> with file permissions and groups, i want to have a group with 2 users in it who only have read access to a certain dir. so ive created the dir, chgrp'd it to that group - but other users can still see it
[06:14] <mikebot> HammerBlade2020: is than in applications?
[06:14] <Drayzee> I download the installer, unzip it
[06:14] <gopi> gnomefreak, Ng: That is what is displayed when I tried to install myth-database
[06:14] <LjL> netscape? wow
[06:14] <mikebot> LjL: ****
[06:14] <Drayzee> and when I click on it nothing happens?
[06:14] <foxpaul> does anyone know how i can limit read access to a directory?
[06:14] <edson> brasil
[06:14] <Makaraki> cxd: thanks a lot now it works (i'm a newbie)
[06:14] <Drayzee> I am a newb
[06:15] <Drayzee> Ubuntu for 24 hrs now
[06:15] <StarQuake> Drayzee, why do you want netscabe?
[06:15] <mikebot> LjL: it's asking me if i want gdm or kdm to be the default display manager
[06:15] <Mastastealth> Drayzee: Sumthin wrong with firefox? :D isnt the new netscape based off of it anyway
[06:15] <LjL> foxpaul: chmod o-r directory?
[06:15] <edson> #/brasil
[06:15] <edson> halo
[06:15] <edson> halo
[06:15] <Drayzee> I wanted to run 7.2, is my favorite version
[06:15] <edson> halo
[06:15] <edson> halo
[06:15] <cxd> Makaraki, everyone's a newbie at some point of time ;-)
[06:15] <edson> halo
[06:15] <LjL> mikebot: KDM is the KDE display manager - GDM is the Gnome one. but both will work with either environment. just choose one
[06:15] <edson> halo
[06:15] <edson> halo
[06:15] <LjL> edson: stop now
[06:15] <edson> halohalo
[06:15] <LjL> !ops
[06:16] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[06:16] <roaet2> lmfao
[06:16] <edson> halo
[06:16] <mikebot> LjL: but i just downloaded kde, right?
[06:16] <mikebot> LjL: i wanted ot make it like that screenshot, that's kdm, right
[06:16] <LjL> mikebot: yeah
[06:16] <edson> halo
[06:16] <mikebot> LjL: okay
[06:16] <edson> halo
[06:16] <edson> halo
[06:16] <mikebot> LjL: thanks
[06:16] <edson> halo
[06:16] <StarQuake> Drayzee, it's generally a good idea to stick with packages supplied by ubuntu and not to install things with installers and stuff like that
[06:16] <edson> halo
[06:16] <LjL> mikebot: no, i meant "yeah" to just downloading kde
[06:16] <edson> halo
[06:16] <roaet2> destroy!
[06:16] <Amaranth> stupid xchat
[06:16] <mikebot> LjL: oh oops
[06:16] <bliss1> what does this mean bliss1    7375  0.0  0.1   3128  1024 ?        Ss   15:38   0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
[06:16] <Amaranth> can't highlight while it's scrolling
[06:16] <mikebot> LjL: well i picked kdm
[06:16] <Drayzee> is there a crystal 4236 sound driver for ubuntu?
[06:16] <LjL> mikebot: you can use kdm, or you can use gdm. they're both only used for your login
[06:17] <mikebot> jlli don't know what's going on haha
[06:17] <LjL> mikebot: basically KDM/GDM is that program that asks you for your username and password, that's all
[06:17] <mikebot> ljl*
[06:17] <Amaranth> I'm sick of software that sucks. :'(
[06:17] <Drayzee> I hate windows
[06:17] <mikebot> LjL: oh okay, i don't care about that
[06:17] <Amaranth> Drayzee: That's nice.
[06:17] <LjL> mikebot: i use KDM because GDM requires having the Gnome libraries installed -- but otherwise i could just use GDM if i liked (say) its graphics better
[06:17] <apokryphos> Amaranth: Kvirc is very nice, in my opinion. It's very very configurable.
[06:18] <apokryphos> (and scriptable)
[06:18] <mikebot> LjL: but it's only the logon screen, nothing else, right?
[06:18] <LjL> mikebot: yeah
[06:18] <Amaranth> apokryphos: What I'm looking for is basically colloquy, but with hostmasks on join/part and access to the ban list
[06:18] <StarQuake> Drayzee, try google
[06:18] <nalioth> Amaranth: irssi
[06:18] <mikebot> LjL: okay, well i don't care about the logon screen, so kdm is fine
[06:18] <bubba_> uh oh, my duckie is upside down!
[06:18] <Amaranth> nalioth: No, colloquy
[06:18] <Amaranth> nalioth: :P
[06:18] <mikebot> LjL: i just want higherresolution
[06:18] <mikebot> ha
[06:18] <LjL> mikebot: hm, that's not what KDE will give you =)
[06:19] <mikebot> ljl: and one less menu
[06:19] <mikebot> :)
[06:19] <LjL> mikebot: resolution is independent of whether you're using Gnome or KDE
[06:19] <apokryphos> Amaranth: never tried it, but kvirc does have both of those by default.
[06:19] <hefti> where can i change from UTF-8 to iso ? the file ?
[06:19] <Drayzee> StarQuake, I did, and was unable to find one. Do you know if Ubuntu supports a SB live card?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> hefti: in the burning app
[06:19] <Amaranth> apokryphos: So does X-Chat and a bunch of other IRC clients, but they all suck worse in other ways. :P
[06:19] <Mastastealth> Drayzee: Yes it does
[06:19] <mikex> i had a bad dual boot install, need to recover windows xp on partition 1.
[06:19] <mikebot> LjL: is there a font with logical operators?
[06:19] <mikebot> LjL: that is included?
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: what about bitchx?
[06:20] <LjL> mikebot: well KDE can allow you to save some space with menus, because it allows you to have applications *not* display their main menu inside their windows, but instead on the top of the screen (like MacOS does). if you look at my screenshot, that's the way i set it up
[06:20] <Amaranth> nalioth: Any time I have to use a terminal to do something (other than development), the OS/distro has failed.
[06:20] <Mastastealth> mikex: what happened? cant boot into it?
[06:20] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: Same thing.
[06:20] <mikex> can't access it from grub, it is not listed.
[06:20] <mikebot> LjL: oh i don't like that
[06:20] <gnomefreak> ahhh your looking for gui app
[06:20] <LjL> mikebot: hm, i'm not sure. KOffice does have a formula editor, though
[06:20] <mikex> Mastastealth: exactly
[06:20] <Mastastealth> mikex: you know how to add it manually?
[06:20] <mikebot> LjL: i just don't like have my menus at the top (applications. &c.) but have the open windows on a different menu on the bottom
[06:20] <mikex> Mastastealth: no, got a link?
[06:21] <cello_rasp> LjL if only we could get that for gnome
[06:21] <gnomefreak> i found lostirc pretty good but dont know if it does everything you want
[06:21] <apokryphos> Amaranth: I doubt any (perhaps irssi, but then again that's not GUI -- big disad, IMO) have as much configurability as kvirc (really). It's nice, but surprisingly unpopular; used a bit more on Windoze, I guess.
[06:21] <LjL> cello_rasp: doesn't OpenOffice have one?
[06:21] <mikebot> LjL: i would rather it be like windows (start menu and open stuff next to it)
[06:21] <Mastastealth> mikex: looking for one...
[06:21] <LjL> cello_rasp: no wait, you mean the menu?
[06:21] <cello_rasp> yea
[06:21] <bliss1> you know how we always type sudo at the prompt how to set a root password
[06:21] <cello_rasp> it so usable
[06:21] <gnomefreak> bliss1: use sudo -i
[06:21] <apokryphos> bliss1: it's recommended that you use sudo -i instead
[06:21] <nalioth> Amaranth: wrap a python gui wrapper around irssi
[06:21] <LjL> cello_rasp: yeah it's been talked about, but they say it's hard to implement
[06:21] <apokryphos> bliss1: ..to get into a root shell. But if you really want to you can set up a root account.
[06:22] <mikex> Mastastealth: just got in to ubuing to beat the learning curve.ntu 'bout a month ago. still try
[06:22] <Amaranth> nalioth: Then I end up with colloquy but with me doing all the work. ;)
[06:22] <LjL> cello_rasp: surely, i'm not too happy that when i use a GTK/Gnome application it doesn't respect my choice for menu positioning
[06:22] <Mastastealth> mikex: ok ill give u the lines to use:
[06:22] <Bud_Resin> what would be the command line command equivalent of synchronizing the clock from the gui?
[06:22] <Amaranth> apokryphos: Looks ugly, do you have a stock screenshot?
[06:22] <mikebot> LjL: i typed 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop' and it finished..now what do i do?
[06:22] <Mastastealth> root (hd0,1)
[06:22] <bliss1> yes because when remote in I want to ust root@xyz.net--
[06:22] <LjL> mikebot: well you certainly can do that, but you can do that in gnome as well... and gnome also allows you to have a shorter menu
[06:22] <Mastastealth> savedefault
[06:22] <Mastastealth> makeactive
[06:22] <Mastastealth> chainloader +1
[06:23] <mikebot> LjL: oh, i want gnome..haha
[06:23] <LjL> mikebot: now logout, and login again, but before pressing Enter, choose "Session" and then KDE
[06:23] <mikebot> LjL: okay, brb
[06:23] <Definity> dose any one use the program unrar-free?
[06:23] <apokryphos> Amaranth: my screeny won't look anything like the ones on their site (yes, you guessed it :P -- look is configurable) but I'll put one up now
[06:23] <Mastastealth> those last 4, just add em into /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:23] <mikebot> LjL: is logging out the same as ctrl+alt+backspace?
[06:23] <Klick_> hey all, i want to know how to tell a certain module not to load at start time, any ideas how i do this
[06:23] <LjL> mikebot: look, both Gnome and KDE are quite configurable (though Gnome less so). you probably shouldn't make your choice based on how many pixels are taken by what
[06:23] <bliss1> so when most folks remote in they just use a user name?
[06:23] <LjL> mikebot: no, not really
[06:24] <Definity> how can i extract rar fiel in linux?
[06:24] <LjL> mikebot: ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't even ask the applications you have open if they want to quit, or give them a chance to save anything
[06:24] <mikebot> LjL: okay, well if kde is more configurable, then it's better to me
[06:24] <Klick_> rar x file.rar
[06:24] <mikebot> brb
[06:24] <Amaranth> apokryphos: Never mind, I don't think you can make this thing look nice. :P
[06:24] <mikebot> LjL: oh
[06:24] <Amaranth> I'll stick with xchat-gnome, I guess.
[06:24] <apokryphos> Amaranth: http://giannaros.org/kvirc.jpg
[06:24] <defrysk> Definity, sudo apt-get install rar-nonfree
[06:24] <Klick_> anyone know what controls which modules are loaded on startup
[06:24] <Definity> Klick_: that dosent work
[06:25] <Amaranth> apokryphos: better, but still meh :P
[06:25] <defrysk> or is it unrar-nonfree
[06:25] <h3ax> quick one.
[06:25] <mikex> k saved this chat as a txt doc. will give it a try.
[06:25] <LjL> Definity: "apt-cache search unrar"
[06:25] <apokryphos> Amaranth: I originally made it look almost exactly like konversation because I couldn't handle the wacky icons/colours, but eventually came around on some of the things.
[06:25] <Plouj_> does ubuntu have hibernate as an option at all?
[06:25] <Definity> i downloaded unrar
[06:25] <h3ax> whats the format command for linux
[06:25] <LjL> Plouj_: yeah
[06:25] <gnomefreak> Plouj_: yes
[06:25] <Definity> it jsut i go to execute it and it dosent work
[06:25] <mandavi> hi, how do i install new programs in ubuntu?
[06:25] <LjL> Plouj_: doesn't always work too well
[06:25] <LjL> h3ax: "man fsck"
[06:25] <defrysk> Definity, get the nonfree version
[06:25] <gnomefreak> mandavi: synaptic
[06:25] <Definity> it dosent work atall
[06:26] <LjL> h3ax: err, sorry
[06:26] <Klick_> anyone know a good place to look to find out?
[06:26] <LjL> h3ax: "man mkfs" =)
[06:26] <Definity> i have reinstalled it twice and still not working
[06:26] <h3ax> k thanks
[06:26] <h3ax> =)
[06:26] <mandavi> gnomefreak: thanks
[06:26] <defrysk> unrar e blah
[06:26] <auke> my pentium III chipset won't detect my MSI wireless card, will updating the bios work? or is it a lost cause?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> mandavi: yw
[06:26] <LjL> !tell mandavi about shortapt
[06:26] <LjL> !tell mandavi about repos
[06:26] <mikebot> LjL: looks like windows 95
[06:26] <theBishop> i'm embarassed to ask, but what package do i need to play MP3's in Rhythmbox?
[06:27] <LjL> mikebot: uh, if you say so :)
[06:27] <Definity> only if ti was that simple
[06:27] <LjL> !tell theBishop about mp3
[06:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell theBishop about mp3
[06:27] <mikebot> LjL: haha
[06:27] <Definity> is thsi the onyl prgram taht can unzip a .rar file becuase they are quite popular
[06:27] <defrysk> Definity, did you install unrar-non-free ?
[06:27] <defrysk> !unrar-nonfree
[06:27] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[06:27] <gnomefreak> !rar
[06:27] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:27] <Definity> no i installed unrar-free
[06:27] <defrysk> !unrar-non-free
[06:27] <ubotu> defrysk: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:27] <LjL> mikebot: i would certainly like them to stop arranging window buttons in the windows fashion (minimize, maximize and close on the right)... but then gnome does that as well =)
[06:27] <defrysk> geez
[06:28] <Bud_Resin> what would be the command line command equivalent of synchronizing the clock from the gui?
[06:28] <Definity> i cant find that on synaptic
[06:28] <LjL> Bud_Resin: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart
[06:28] <defrysk> Definity, do you have multiverse and universe ?
[06:28] <Definity> i have universe
[06:28] <Definity> i think
[06:28] <Bud_Resin> LjL ty
[06:28] <Definity> yes i ahev universe
[06:29] <defrysk> Definity, make sure to add multiverse
[06:29] <LjL> Definity: unrar-nonfree is in multiverse
[06:29] <Definity> how do i get multiverse
[06:29] <defrysk> just put the word behind universe
[06:29] <LjL> !tell Definity about repos
[06:29] <JC_> !multiverse
[06:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:30] <mikebot> LjL: heh, i like that. how can i configure this stuff
[06:31] <JC_> mikebot,  start poking around :)
[06:31] <LjL> mikebot: depends on what you want to configure i suppose ;)
[06:31] <mikebot> LjL: well first, i accidently clicked hide main menu, but iw ant it back
[06:32] <LjL> mikebot: come again? i'm not sure what you clicked on and what you hid
[06:32] <mikebot> on the window browser
[06:32] <mikebot> the top toolbar where it says like file and edit and stuff
[06:32] <WoC`> simple question maybe, but any idea why 'apt-get install ntpd' can't find the package, need I update sme setting?
[06:32] <LjL> mikebot: "hide menubar"?
[06:32] <LjL> mikebot: ctrl+m
[06:32] <mikebot> LjL: i think so
[06:33] <mikebot> ah thanks
[06:33] <CarinArr> out of interest, is there an easy way to make sure that all files saved in a directory readable/writable by all users will be readable/writable by all users?
[06:33] <mikebot> okay well first,
[06:34] <LjL> CarinArr: not automatically. just run "chmod -R a+rw /director/*"
[06:34] <JC_> anybody want to guide me through gparted?
[06:34] <mikebot> LjL: can i lock the panels on the bottom so they don't have that seperator?
[06:35] <LjL> mikebot: you mean the separators between different icons/applets/etc?
[06:35] <mikebot> LjL: yeah
[06:36] <LjL> mikebot: settings / desktop / panels / appearence / advanced options -- this will not lock them, but it can hide the separators
[06:36] <LjL> mikebot: to actually lock them, just right click on the panel, and choose "lock panel"
[06:37] <Definity> that unrar program stil dosent want to open up
[06:37] <Definity> cant even see a slight sign of it starting up
[06:37] <mikebot> LjL: i don't see that option anywhere
[06:37] <JC_> hmm /dev/hda2 is locked how do I unlock it NTFS format?
[06:37] <defrysk> Definity, unrar e file
[06:38] <bit_seqz> JC_, how do you lock a filesystem ?
[06:38] <combat> join/ #ubuntuforums
[06:38] <LjL> mikebot: hm perhaps it wasn't there in older kde versions... i'm using a version newer than the one in breezy. anyway, is there no "Panel Menu" menu item when you right click somewhere on the panel?
[06:38] <combat> join #ubuntuforums
[06:38] <JC_> bit_seqz,  beats me
[06:38] <bit_seqz> combat, the slash comes before join, not after...
[06:38] <combat> dag nam it, ahh cheers,lol
[06:38] <mikebot> LjL: there is, but it only has 'add to panel,' remove from panel,' and 'configure'
[06:39] <bit_seqz> combat, lol
[06:39] <JC_> oops  /dev/hda2 is locked how do I unlock it ? extended filesystem I meant
[06:39] <gopi> Any TV viewing applications other than xawtv and mythtv ......  ?
[06:39] <LjL> mikebot: then try the other option. if you choose to "hide" the separators, i think the effect will be very much like locking
[06:40] <bit_seqz> gopi, theres one for kde... i never tried it, but there is one... also, i think you can use mplayer... but never tried it..
[06:40] <mikebot> LjL: okay, thanks. also, when you highlight the k menu, and that huge box fades in--can i remove that?
[06:41] <bit_seqz> JC_, dont worry, when you start saying things that make sense, someone will be able to help you.
[06:41] <Definity> dammit
[06:41] <gopi> bit_seqz: wow mplayer? If you can guide me from where I can install it plz ?
[06:41] <JC_> bit_seqz,  no need to be rude..first time I try to use gparted and Im abit lost
[06:41] <CarinArr> ljl, the thing is, from an administrative point of view, would there be an easy way to assure it's done when things are saved?
[06:41] <Definity> is there any way of finding out what format a file is with out the extension there
[06:42] <thefish> Definity "file somefile.zyx"
[06:42] <CarinArr> i mean i won't be aware when my users save things, and it would be pretty annoying to have to go in and change permissions every time someone has saved something
[06:42] <wani> supp
[06:42] <LjL> mikebot: hm, you know what, i've never seen such an option... though i've never really looked for it either
[06:42] <bit_seqz> gopi, you will need to change your repositories i think to get mplayer... there are also non-free codec you may need to download... but i cant step you through it...
[06:42] <wani> I'm from Belize
[06:42] <LjL> CarinArr: no
[06:42] <mikebot> LjL: okay
[06:42] <CarinArr> that seems weird
[06:42] <CarinArr> i mean it's such a simple thing
[06:42] <LjL> CarinArr: at least not that i can think of. you could just run a script that periodically sets the "right" permissions
[06:42] <defrysk> !mplayer
[06:43] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:43] <wani> can i jion ur conver
[06:43] <mikebot> LjL: what about making it so when i'm not on a certain desktop, i can't see the apps openin that desktop (on the bottom menu)
[06:43] <bit_seqz> So... what is a locked filesystem (or is it a locked partition?)
[06:43] <JC_> bit_seqz,  I guess its a locked partition
[06:44] <LjL> mikebot: hm?
[06:44] <Definity> all it just says back to me is "Empty" which i know it isnt becuase it 4 gig
[06:45] <mikebot> like when i have a window open in desktop 3, and i am in desktop 3 i can see the window on the bottom panel (the one that tells me what is open)
[06:45] <Attar> hello, i just installed ubuntu on my pavilion hp, i installed using vga=771, after install i get message saying that x is not working correctly! what should i do? tried reconfigure-xserver using ati driver
[06:45] <Attar> no luck
[06:45] <mikebot> LjL: but when i am in desktop 2, it is still in that panel
[06:45] <wani> no luck bout wat?
[06:45] <gopi> I tried sudo apt-get install mplayer and its asking for download of some archives.... so is that the one ?
[06:45] <bit_seqz> JC_, in my 30 or so years of using computers, ive never heard of a locked partition, can you explain how its locked or anything about it?
[06:45] <wani> fock ans me
[06:46] <CarinArr> so all i would need is a notification when a file is added, then that could be used to script it
[06:46] <leleobhz> marillat repository to run ok on ubuntu breezy must to be the sarge branch, is it?
[06:46] <Martolod> hello
[06:46] <Mastastealth> attar: have you checked ur xorg.conf ?
[06:46] <Martolod> i want to read some documentation about startup services
[06:46] <LjL> mikebot: ok - as for the first question, settings / desktop / panels / appearence and uncheck "enable icon mouseover effect"
[06:47] <Martolod> i find this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootServices
[06:47] <Martolod> but they use a tool, do someone know where i can find information about the real things ? How to set up this by command line
[06:48] <JC_> bit_seqz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9550
[06:48] <Mastastealth> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[06:48] <misfit_toy> anybody ever seen this with freenx? I get authenticated, x starts, get ubuntu splash, get ubuntu wallpaper, but it never goes beyond that, no gnome-session is what it looks like to me.
[06:48] <Mastastealth> has some info on boot stuff
[06:48] <gopi> I tried sudo apt-get install mplayer and its asking for download of some archives.... so is that the one ?
[06:49] <gopi> is that mplayer used for TV viewing ?
[06:49] <mikebot> LjL:  ah thank you
[06:49] <Definity> ok so this suposed rar file is empty but it cant be because it is 4 gigs big and when i gave it the "file" command it just said empty back to me so any ideas on how the hell i can watch these movies?
[06:49] <leleobhz> gopi: can be too
[06:49] <bit_seqz> JC_, neet, gpartd puts a litle picture of a lock next to it...
[06:50] <LjL> mikebot: can't yet find an answer to the other question. the main problem with kde's configurability is... its configurability ;) too many options for a human to remember
[06:50] <JC_> bit_seqz,  yeah
[06:50] <JC_> bit_seqz,  how can I unlock it so I can resiza it?
[06:50] <bit_seqz> JC_, from a command line, (open a shell, whatever...) type sudo fdisk -l   (this will use fdisk to list partitions... paste that into pastebin
[06:51] <mikebot> LjL: hehe, that's okay..what about this one...my clock shows up when i make the panel small, but when i make it noral, it isn't there, just the date
[06:51] <mikebot> *noraml
[06:51] <mikebot> *normal
[06:51] <LjL> mikebot: hm, that sounds like a bug?
[06:51] <misfit_toy> anybody ever seen this with freenx? I get authenticated, x starts, get ubuntu splash, get ubuntu wallpaper, but it never goes beyond that, no gnome-session is what it looks like to me.
[06:51] <mikebot> LjL: also, gtkpod is giving me some error
[06:51] <mikebot> LjL: okay
[06:52] <lostar3434> how do i search for files or index  files on ubuntu
[06:52] <deividas> hi everyone
[06:52] <budman> !w32codecs
[06:52] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:52] <LjL> mikebot: perhaps it believe it doesn't have enough space on the panel to show the clock, or something... try fiddling with the format (analog, digital, clock + date, clock only, etc)
[06:52] <LjL> mikebot: no idea about gtkpod, never used it
[06:52] <Mastastealth> lostar3434: get beagle? :D
[06:52] <JC_> bit_seqz,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9551
[06:53] <mikebot> LjL: okay, and yeah changing it from default to digital and back worked
[06:53] <defrysk> deskbar applet
[06:53] <LjL> mikebot: eh, the mysteries of GUIs
[06:53] <mikebot> LjL: hehe
[06:53] <Mastastealth> lostar3434: that or used the built in search under the Places menu
[06:53] <[balayhashi] > how do I run Search as root?
[06:54] <mikebot> LjL: one last question, i promise..then i'll just look for things myself
[06:54] <Mastastealth> balayhash: you mean search in your root directory?
[06:55] <mikebot> LjL: in windows, there is a window view mode where it is like list, but scrolls to to right as youg et more files, i can't seem to find a viewing option on this
[06:55] <bit_seqz> JC_, Ok, so you mention you want to re-size an ntfs partition.. thats going to be the difficult part... ive done it about a year ago... but i dont remmember all the details...
[06:55] <JC_> bit_seqz,  need to resize /hda1
[06:55] <Mastastealth> bit_seqz: use qtparted! (or gparted) from a livecd :)
[06:55] <bit_seqz> JC_, my guess is you want to resize /dev/hda5.
[06:55] <budman> The cube is to ubelievable
[06:55] <budman> :-)
[06:55] <Mastastealth> i live SystemRescueCD
[06:55] <bit_seqz> Mastastealth, he is useing gpartd...
[06:55] <LjL> mikebot: perhaps you mean like "multicolumn view"?
[06:55] <equador> why i can't install proftd.
[06:55] <equador> i try
[06:55] <Mastastealth> *like
[06:56] <equador> sudo apt-get install proftpd
[06:56] <equador> but i get an error
[06:56] <LjL> mikebot: which is, view / view mode / multicolumn view
[06:56] <gopi> I installed mplayer but looks like there is no way to play TV in it :(
[06:56] <Mastastealth> whats the error equador?
[06:56] <mikebot> LjL: ah thank you
[06:56] <equador> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:56] <mikebot> LjL: the folder i was looking at each on didn't have enough files to show each for what it really looked like
[06:56] <equador> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:56] <JC_> bit_seqz,  /hda1 need more room there and I have all that free space on /hda2
[06:56] <bit_seqz> JC_, this is real ugly :( The best thing i can suggest is to backup everything first.
[06:56] <equador> thats is error
[06:56] <budman> equador are you SUDO into the process?
[06:57] <btdown> i dont think he's root....
[06:57] <defrysk> equador, u have synaptic running ;)
[06:57] <equador> yes with sudo
[06:57] <budman> are you running it else where?
[06:57] <equador> from terminal i try
[06:57] <equador> install
[06:57] <LjL> mikebot: also, again under View, you can change "Icon Size" to get an even more windows-like looking view
[06:57] <sander__123> i've got a problem... i've got like lots of windows cd-s but only cd that boots itself is in sweden and i cant get it working...
[06:57] <equador> sudo apt-get install proftpd
[06:57] <defrysk> equador, tusn off synaptic
[06:57] <bit_seqz> JC_, well... you dont have a lot of free room on hda2, hda2 is a container, and it contains hda5,6,7
[06:57] <equador> ok
[06:57] <mikebot> LjL: yeah, i like tiny, except it doesn't show all the text
[06:57] <defrysk> equador, and try again
[06:57] <equador> ok
[06:58] <LjL> mikebot: hm in "multicolumn mode" it does for me
[06:58] <mikex> from command I ran df. The ntfs partition does not show. I do have 2 tmpfs' one of these has about the same used space as my lost ntfs partition.
[06:58] <JC_> bit_seqz,  Im thinking Im better off backing up and reinstalling windows :( and making the partions alittle more suited to my needs
[06:58] <auke> damn i'm giving up, been working on this the entire day now, just to get this wifi card working
[06:58] <southern> how can I upgrade my samba ?
[06:58] <mikex> sys>disk- shows ntfs ??
[06:58] <mikebot> LjL: i'll keep looking through the options
[06:58] <Mastastealth> southern: sudo apt-get install samba
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> southern,  other then 'apt-get upgrade' you mean?
[06:58] <bit_seqz> JC_, thats what I would do... I like to partition myself (autopartition is good sometimes...)
[06:58] <LjL> mikebot: try just hitting F5, perhaps it's messed up
[06:58] <southern> Mastastealth I've got it
[06:59] <Mastastealth> southern: first refresh package list tho, sudo apt-get update
[06:59] <southern> it isn't upgrading
[06:59] <Attar> mastastealth: sorry, i am using mirc and i am used to xchat highlighting stuff addressed to me! :) yes i did check my xserver.xorg, anyways, i just googled, and found that i can install either fglrx drvier or the ati proprietry driver, i will try now, but what do u suggest, fglrx? or the ati driver?
[06:59] <southern> yes I did it
[06:59] <JC_> bit_seqz,  thanks for the help :) you didnt turn out so bad lol
[06:59] <mikebot> LjL: same..is there a way to spply settings to all folders?
[06:59] <LjL> southern: you need "sudo apt-get update" to get an updated database first
[06:59] <bit_seqz> JC_, I put one partition per OS, +1 swap, and i dont use extended partitions anymore.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis>  fglrx drvier IS the ati proprietry driver
[06:59] <Mastastealth> attar: ati is built-in to xorg, so u might as well try the fglrx drivers
[06:59] <southern> I did it...
[06:59] <mikebot> LjL: nevermind, i just do it to the root and it does it to all
[06:59] <LjL> mikebot: i think applying to all folders is the default
[07:00] <bit_seqz> JC_, and if you have to have windows put it on hda1.
[07:00] <Mastastealth> southern: ok, so...its the latest version, atleast from what ubuntu repos has, u find a newer version?
[07:00] <JC_> bit_seqz,  yup
[07:00] <Attar> Mastastealth, the ati driver included wth xorg, is the free one, not the 1 from ATI, isnt it?
[07:00] <Mastastealth> souther: or perhaps, have u check synaptic?
[07:00] <Seveas> !mark
[07:00] <ubotu> A -- MARK -- message is printed in the log every 15 minutes, so you know the logger is running. This is perfectly normal. Your kernel has not been hacked by a danish guy called 'Mark'.
[07:00] <Mastastealth> attar: yea
[07:00] <equador> not help for me to turn off synaptic
[07:00] <Mastastealth> attar: fglrx is from ati, the propierty one
[07:00] <southern> Mastastealth: I can't install swat
[07:01] <southern> this is my problem actually
[07:01] <Mastastealth> equador: do u have update-manager running?
[07:01] <bit_seqz> JC_, my new laptop came partitioned with 1/2 of the disk as data.... so I just installed ubutnu on that... no -re partitioning for me :)
[07:01] <osku> #ubuntu-fi
[07:01] <equador> now its work, thx :)
[07:01] <Mastastealth> southern: have you check your apt source?
[07:01] <southern> yes it's working
[07:01] <dynamo> My first tty is frozen, ctrl+z isn't killing it. How do I restart it?
[07:01] <hfx> hiyas
[07:01] <budman> Ive downloaded the win32codec
[07:01] <Mastastealth> southern: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , is tehre stuff in it?
[07:01] <budman> but still cant play any movie using movie plater
[07:02] <hfx> any kernel hackers in here? need advice in kernel module writing. getting funny errors about redefined symbols in time.h when compiling a module skeleton
[07:02] <echo_> hi
[07:02] <Mastastealth> southern: ok, if its working ,wut errors do u get when u try to install stuff?
[07:02] <southern> swat wants samba 3.0.14
[07:02] <CarinArr> ljl, found a way of doing it using dnotify
[07:02] <CarinArr> heh
[07:02] <bit_seqz> budman, hrmm... what output are you getting... run it from a console/terminal, it will show errors.
[07:03] <southern> but I have 3.0.7
[07:03] <heatxsink> anyone in here know if the bluez kernel patches are going to be added to the 2.6.15 kernel?
[07:03] <Attar> mastastealth, hmm, this is confusing me, on the wiki i found a page, that said i can either install xorg-driver-fglrx OR a complicated procedure to install the ATIXXXX.run from ATI, and with ubuntu there is an ATI driver, donno which it is! :) anyways, i'll go give the ATI ones a try, or could that destroy system?
[07:03] <heatxsink> anyone in here know if the bluez kernel patches are going to be added to the 2.6.15 kernel, for ubuntu?*
[07:03] <Mastastealth> southern: are you installing swat from ubuntu repos too?
[07:03] <budman> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[07:03] <budman>   xine-ui: Depends: libxine1 (>= 1-rc3a) but it is not going to be installed
[07:03] <budman> E: Broken packages
[07:03] <Mastastealth> attar: it wont destroy it, if your xserver isnt working, you got nothing to lose anyway ^_^
[07:03] <budman> im trying to install xine cause it plays fine on my other ubuntu box
[07:03] <sander__123> how can i uninstall ubuntu ? how can i format my harddrive?
[07:04] <Mastastealth> attar: becuz wut usually happens is someone messes up sumthin in the fglrx procedure and x wont start, but x wont start for u now, so ur good to go ;)
[07:04] <dynamo> sander__123 what do you want to format it with?
[07:04] <ezech> sander__123: define "format" ;)
[07:04] <bit_seqz> budman, ive been using VLC, it works in ubuntu for many of my media
[07:04] <sander__123> i wanna make it clear
[07:04] <sander__123> going to use windows after ubuntu
[07:04] <budman> apt-get VLC?
[07:04] <Attar> Mastastealth, hehe ok, good luck to me! bye
[07:04] <dynamo> sander__123 either get some magnets, or a windows cd. Insert the cd and restart your computer.
[07:05] <ezech> sander__123: windows will wipe out anything
[07:05] <sander__123> it doesnt work
[07:05] <sander__123> nono... windows doesnt boot itself
[07:05] <Mastastealth> southern: are you using hoary?
[07:05] <bina> does anyone know what I need to have installed to be able to mount an Axim X51 under linux?
[07:05] <bit_seqz> budman, i'd use synaptic
[07:05] <ezech> sander__123: you did set up bios to boot from cd, wright?
[07:05] <dynamo> sander__123 are you sure your CMOS is set to boot from a cd?
[07:05] <sander__123> yes
[07:05] <bina> I dont want active sync or anything, just so I can put files onto it without having to transfer them to my windows comp first
[07:05] <ezech> then you have hardware problem
[07:05] <southern> Mastastealth: I'm using breezy
[07:05] <dynamo> sander__123 did you hit any key when it asks you to? ;)
[07:05] <southern> and this is my source.list
[07:06] <ezech> either with your box, or your head
[07:06] <sander__123> actually... it boots ubuntu... even when first boot device is cd
[07:06] <sander__123> and windows cd is in cd-rom
[07:06] <theskunk> sander__123, what kind of machine?
[07:06] <sander__123> i've got pentium
[07:06] <theskunk> you build it?
[07:06] <southern> (I can't copy here)
[07:06] <sander__123> nope
[07:06] <LjL> CarinArr: that sounds like a good idea
[07:06] <theskunk> k, dell by chance?
[07:06] <budman> I get errors in synaptic about dependenceys
[07:06] <Samuel-P-Dias> hi, I've problems with a non-PS/2 keyboard (an old AMD-586)
[07:07] <theskunk> budman, go into the synaptics repository and check for broken packages
[07:07] <budman> xine-ui:
[07:07] <budman>  Depends: libxine1 but it is not going to be installed
[07:07] <radu_> hi, I'm trying to use my bluetooth phone with gnome-phone-manager but it doesn't seem to work... I find the device, I try to connect it, the pairing dialog appears on my phone, I write in the code from /etc/bluetooth/pin and then the phone tells me that the pairing could not be done and gnome-phone-manager tells me "not connected"... any idea what I might be doing wrong ?
[07:07] <El-Cid> !botsnack
[07:07] <ubotu> thanks el-cid :)
[07:08] <theskunk> does it say why?
[07:08] <sander__123> so can anybody help me with booting windows?
[07:08] <sander__123> or clearing my harddrive
[07:08] <budman> Where do I see broken packages in in the repository
[07:08] <radu_> theskunk, was that for me ?
[07:08] <Mastastealth> southern: well, sumthin must be up with ur repos because breezy has samba 3.0.14...
[07:08] <bit_seqz> budman, well... seems you'd be better off fixing the dependancy
[07:08] <joachim-n> how do I grep for a pattern that starts with -
[07:09] <theskunk> sander__123, if it wont boot to the CD, make sure the bios is set to boot from the CD, take the hard drive off the boot list if needed, if its a pre-manufactured computer, there may be a key that you can press to give a boot order list and choose the boot device
[07:09] <budman> Which is what im trying to do
[07:09] <theskunk> radu_, nope, sorry
[07:09] <radu_> joachim-n, ^-
[07:09] <joachim-n> tx
[07:09] <radu_> joachim-n, grep -- ^- or grep "^-"
[07:09] <southern> Mastastealth what so I have to do?
[07:09] <bit_seqz> budman, wish i could help with that... but i dunno :(
[07:09] <radu_> joachim-n, hrm... grep ^- should work too
[07:09] <theskunk> budman, in the synaptics repository, there should be a filters area, where you can search for broken dependancies -- if it wont install, you should be able to add repositories until it installs
[07:09] <dynamo> sander__123 first check if your cd drive is still functional. If you don't see a cdrom icon on your desktop right now, that means there's something wrong with your cd drive. If it's reading the cd drive, try getting another copy of windows, the cd itself could be toast
[07:10] <Samuel-P-Dias> hi, I've problems with a non-PS/2 keyboard (an old AMD-586). The debian-installer starts, but my keyboard is frozen and I can't continue.
[07:10] <Mastastealth> southern:  send me ONE line in ur sources.list
[07:10] <sander__123> well... i got one cd working
[07:10] <dynamo> sander__123 this is assuming that you have the windoze cd in right now of course
[07:10] <Mastastealth> southern:  so i can see if there's a problem from that server
[07:10] <sander__123> well...
[07:10] <theskunk> sander__123, to check what dynamo is doing, check by trying to boot to the ubuntu CD that you installed with
[07:10] <sander__123> this cd is in sweden
[07:10] <jah_raztah> for some reason i'm unable to copy file fully from my dvd, and also when i play a song from the dvd it starts to play and then stop,s and then i play it again and seek to a certain spot like 2 minutes it plays from there for a bit like 8 seconds or something and then stops
[07:10] <sander__123> if i use ubuntu cd it will just give me option to install it...
[07:11] <heatxsink> WHO does the ubuntu kernel packaging?
[07:11] <southern> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[07:11] <budman> I dont understand where do i get the extra repositorys @?
[07:11] <dynamo> sander__123 that means your windows cd is toast =)
[07:11] <sander__123> well..
[07:11] <sander__123> cant be
[07:11] <theskunk> sander__123, yes, but it will at least let you know if the cabability of booting from cd works
[07:11] <sander__123> i've got like 5 of them
[07:11] <southern> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[07:11] <dynamo> sander__123 none work?
[07:11] <joachim-n> I think the ^ is working as a line beginning
[07:11] <sander__123> well
[07:11] <sander__123> one in sweden... that boots itself
[07:11] <sander__123> but cannot understand it
[07:11] <southern> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-main restrictd universe
[07:11] <radu_> joachim-n, yeah, didn't you say everything that starts with - ?
[07:12] <Mastastealth> southern: there it is
[07:12] <bit_seqz> budman, open synaptic, click settings/repositories
[07:12] <joachim-n> no
[07:12] <Mastastealth> southern:  u have warty
[07:12] <joachim-n> the pattern starts with -
[07:12] <Mastastealth> southern:  repos atleast
[07:12] <joachim-n> but grep thinks that is an option instead of a patter
[07:12] <dynamo> sander__123 well, that means that the other cds aren't working, so you need a new english one apparently
[07:12] <sander__123> ubuntu will even boot itself when my all boot devices are cd-rom
[07:12] <Mastastealth> southern: change anything that says warty or hoary to breezy
[07:12] <joachim-n> grep "-book" *
[07:12] <radu_> joachim-n, that's why I said you should use it after -- or in double quotes
[07:12] <sander__123> well quite yes
[07:12] <dynamo> heh
[07:12] <joachim-n> grep: invalid option -- k
[07:12] <theskunk> woot, budman listen to bit_seqz, im on my mac laptop right now and no where near a ubuntu box except over ssh
[07:12] <dynamo> what a pain this must be for you
[07:12] <joachim-n> ah, -- works. tx
[07:13] <Mastastealth> southern: then save and do a "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:13] <southern> dist-upgrade?
[07:13] <Mastastealth> southern:  yea
[07:13] <southern> what will it do?
[07:13] <theskunk> Mastastealth, why not just apt-get upgrade
[07:13] <theskunk> ?
[07:13] <budman> theskunk I have all of them in the list added.
[07:13] <Mastastealth> southern: update every package found outdated
[07:14] <sander__123> i've got original cd-s of windows 95 and 98 and they dont boot, only one that boots it a windows 98 in sweden but that isnt helping me... actually need to install XP
[07:14] <Mastastealth> theskunk: i dont know...dist-upgrade is the "safe upgrade" chosen by synaptic
[07:14] <dynamo> I need some help shutting down my first tty in bash, for some reason asciijump completely crashed it =\ I don't mind restarting bash, but killall didn't seem to do that. Any suggestions?
[07:14] <theskunk> budman, well.... crap... without being in front of my box im sorry to say that im out of ideas.... have you looked it up in the wiki yet? or searched that in goodle?
[07:14] <gopi> How can I install Motv or TVtime ?
[07:14] <Mastastealth> theskunk: and its worked for me ;)
[07:14] <sander__123> i've got 2 XP cd-s and non of them works
[07:14] <theskunk> Mastastealth, i've been using just upgrade....
[07:14] <budman> Just so wierd worked perfetly on my other pc
[07:14] <theskunk> anybody here running ubuntu 64?
[07:14] <theskunk> yeah... that is wiere
[07:14] <theskunk> d*
[07:14] <radu_> gopi, you can find tvtime using applications -> add applications
[07:14] <theskunk> budman, any major package installation differences b/t the two machiens?
[07:14] <bit_seqz> theskunk, yeah... took me all weekend, but i am running breezy 64
[07:15] <budman> 1 is the newest ubuntu
[07:15] <budman> 1 is the version right before that
[07:15] <budman> older one works
[07:15] <bit_seqz> budman,  heh... yeah, that happens
[07:15] <theskunk> bit_seqz, haha, i hear ya, what'd you have problems with?
[07:15] <hacker-pschorr> ubuntuusers.de seems to be offline?
[07:15] <theskunk> budman, have you upgraded everything on both machines?
[07:15] <budman> yeap
[07:15] <budman> got my cube working
[07:16] <Mastastealth> skunk: upgrade only updates packages, but if a pacakge starts to depend on sumthing else, it wont be installed, by using dist-upgrade any additional packages will be installed properly
[07:16] <Mastastealth> :)
[07:16] <sander__123> So is there any commands to uninstalling or removing ubuntu from harddrive?
[07:16] <budman> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[07:16] <budman> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[07:16] <budman> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[07:16] <budman> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[07:16] <theskunk> Mastastealth, thanks!
[07:16] <theskunk> budman, oh fun
[07:16] <bit_seqz> theskunk, ndiswrapper, wrong drivers for the wifi (not ubuntu's fault), acpi hell
[07:16] <boneill> hi i want to test Dapper (i want to try the latest gnome), what's the easiest way? (currently on breezy)
[07:16] <theskunk> bit_seqz, goodluck with all that.... my main issue has been with firefox
[07:16] <theskunk> and flash
[07:16] <boneill> can i just change my apt sources?
[07:17] <Mastastealth> budman: mirrormax is gone, use: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:17] <bit_seqz> theskunk, mostly wifi/laptop stuff
[07:17] <am3r1ca> when i tail -f /var/log/messages to veiw modem install progress it says successful to all
[07:17] <am3r1ca> but i still have no net on speed touch 330
[07:17] <Mastastealth> budman: instead of any mirrrmox repos u have in ur sources.list
[07:17] <bit_seqz> theskunk, yeah, you have to use non-free version of flash for it to work right with a lot of sites.
[07:18] <theskunk> bit_seqz, even in 64?
[07:18] <theskunk> will it even compile?
[07:18] <southern> Mastastealth: "sudo apt-get install" -> E: Couldn't find package swat
[07:18] <Mastastealth> Flash under 64 doesnt work iirc
[07:18] <sander__123> Is there a command to Format C: or for uninstalling ubuntu?
[07:18] <bit_seqz> theskunk, yeah, no flash on my 64bit lappy yet :(
[07:19] <dman> any ruby people here.. im stuck with a gems install
[07:19] <budman> Mastastealth: do you have a link to an example source list file i should use?
[07:19] <southern> Mastastealth: "sudo apt-get install swat" -> E: Couldn't find package swat
[07:19] <theskunk> bit_seqz, yeah, i just installed the 32 bit firefox and am running 32 bit JRE and Flash with that
[07:19] <theskunk> budman, should be in the ubuntu wikie
[07:19] <theskunk> *wiki
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> sander__123,  you just need to delete the linux partitions, then repartition/format in the OS you are installing.
[07:19] <bit_seqz> theskunk, breezy i368 installed pretty easy... but dapper and breezy 64 both were frustrating!
[07:19] <am3r1ca> can install SPEED TOUCH 300
[07:19] <sander__123> well how do i delete my linux partitations?
[07:20] <am3r1ca> need help
[07:20] <theskunk> bit_seqz, lol.... im still piecing mine together
[07:20] <theskunk> wish they'd just release the source for flash.... problem solved
[07:20] <bit_seqz> sander, just reinstall, during that process you will be able to remove and add partitions...
[07:20] <southern> Mastastealth: "sudo apt-get install swat" -> E: Couldn't find package swat
[07:21] <sander__123> aa ok thank-you...
[07:21] <Mastastealth> budman: looking
[07:21] <Mastastealth> southern: hmm...
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking swat was part of the samba packages.. and i was thinking swat was disabled by default in ubuntu.
[07:21] <bit_seqz> theskunk, yeah, I had to add a repos from some dude to get enlightenment, and eterm working...
[07:22] <Mastastealth> budman: this guy has a good default one with backports: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=774960&postcount=3
[07:22] <theskunk> you're running enlightenment?! ooooooo shiny!
[07:22] <Mitja> Which is the default startup script?
[07:22] <CarinArr> enlightenment enschlighenment:)
[07:22] <Mastastealth> southern: you need to enable universe in ur repos
[07:22] <mikebot> LjL: thanks for all the help, i gotta go
[07:22] <bit_seqz> theskunk, oh hells yeah... gots to have my E!
[07:22] <mikebot> LjL: cya
[07:22] <paquin> hi there
[07:23] <paquin> I can't make telnet work here
[07:23] <Haaskaaja> hey
[07:23] <theskunk> bit_seqz, have you figured out how to get yout booot time down? mine takes 2+ minutes with an athlon 64 x2 3800 w/ a gb of ram and a SATA II
[07:23] <Haaskaaja> it is possible to install kde to ubuntu?
[07:23] <paquin> is there any cool link with a step by step guide to installtelnet???
[07:23] <theskunk> Haaskaaja, there is kubuntu....
[07:23] <bit_seqz> theskunk, who 2 minutes! somethings wrong, check your logs/dmesg!
[07:23] <Mastastealth> southern: "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted" might be a line you have, add "multiverse universe" to the end of it, and the corresponding deb-src
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> Haaskaaja,  yes. Kubuntu-desktop is the package to isntall. check their homepage for details
[07:23] <Haaskaaja> ok
[07:24] <theskunk> bit_seqz, well, im loading crazy stuff like bluetooth and i have no idea how to turn it off
[07:24] <bit_seqz> theskunk, its probably sitting at boot waiting for something (like the network that never comes up...) you can hit ctrl-c to skip, and move on...
[07:26] <gopi> radu_: tvtime I installed.... but no provision to change settings ?
[07:26] <Haaskaaja> i dont want to download full kubuntu, only kde
[07:26] <mammadori> hi all, I would like to rebuild from scratch the ubuntu-live cd, where I could find build scripts (yes I have full mirrors) ?
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Haaskaaja,  then fire yp synaptic and start clicking and isntalling.
[07:26] <theskunk> bit_seqz, im spoiled by slackware/gentoo where i edit my own scripts
[07:26] <Haaskaaja> ?
[07:26] <paquin> hi there
[07:26] <paquin> I need some help here
[07:27] <gopi> tvtime I by mistake choosed custom scanning but is there a way to change it to Europe ?
[07:27] <bit_seqz> theskunk, yeah.. me too... ive been using ubuntu a lot for about 3 months now...
[07:27] <theskunk> mammadori, you are ambitiuos
[07:29] <captainredbeard> I'm having trouble when printing from firefox
[07:30] <thiago_> Hello
[07:32] <Haaskaaja> it is possible to run windows in linux
[07:32] <Haaskaaja> ?
[07:32] <Very> #ubuntu-it
[07:32] <bit_seqz> Haaskaaja, yes.
[07:32] <ezech> Haaskaaja: vmware
[07:32] <Mitja> Haaskaaja: or qemu
[07:32] <bit_seqz> Haaskaaja, and vice-versa
[07:33] <xukun> what happened the package w32codecs in dapper? its not in the package list in dapper
[07:33] <Haaskaaja> where i can find those
[07:33] <ezech> if you have pc from hell, you can go for qemu, vmware is way faster
[07:33] <El-Cid> vmware works great
[07:33] <bit_seqz> xukun, w32codec in ubuntu? surely you jest!
[07:33] <mammadori> theskunk: i would like to study the build system, but I cannot google find it
[07:33] <ezech> Haaskaaja: at their homepage probably
[07:33] <Zoroaster> Haaskaaja, I run vmware, runs good.
[07:34] <ezech> vmware is commercial
[07:34] <Haaskaaja> where to download vmware?
[07:34] <Trynemjoel> are there any Codec-packages for Ubuntu, or do i have to download em all one by one?
[07:34] <bit_seqz> ezech, but they do have free downloads...
[07:34] <Mitja> Haaskaaja: http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[07:34] <xaver> hi
[07:34] <bit_seqz> Trynemjoel, try mplayer.hq
[07:34] <HappyFool> !w32codecs
[07:34] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:34] <Very> #ubuntu-it
[07:34] <xukun> bit_seqz, it doesnt matter what you say, but is was apt-get able before on breezy
[07:35] <bina> how do I read the messages that my kernel leaves when i plug in my USB device?
[07:35] <xukun> it was ..
[07:35] <mammadori> I know about casper, squashfs and unionfs but I would like to study the daily build scripts for ubuntu-live, but I cannot find where they lies
[07:35] <ezech> bit_seqz: nevertheless it's commercial and meant to by paid for
[07:35] <bit_seqz> xukun, really... that is curious.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> bina,  'dmesg'
[07:35] <xaver> can i ask something?
[07:35] <bina> Dr_Willis: nice one.  Thanks
[07:35] <Boglizk> go ahead
[07:35] <bit_seqz> ezech, yeah...
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> xaver,  you just did.. care to ask another? :P
[07:35] <xaver> Does Nazgob was here?
[07:35] <xaver> ;p
[07:35] <xukun> bit_seqz, I,m not kiding
[07:36] <Boglizk> ./whowas
[07:36] <Boglizk> :p
[07:36] <xaver> thx
[07:36] <AntMaz> anyone know of health chats
[07:36] <Boglizk> I need some help: I cant empty the Trash
[07:36] <ezech> AntMaz: you sick? :)
[07:36] <bit_seqz> ezech, whatever dude... you can still download it and try vmware if you like.
[07:37] <AntMaz> yea i got it all nausea , fatigue just had a blackout and almost vometed a bunch of time but i havent eat anything yet today caughing (hacking) and new to the list diarea ha
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the flue to me..
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> flu.
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> its that time of year. But who knows.  those are common symptons to a lot of things.
[07:38] <Boglizk> I cant empty the trash...
[07:38] <bit_seqz> AntMaz, well... try to atleast get lots of fluids...
[07:38] <AntMaz> thats what i thought but do ou or do you not have black outs im not sure
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> Fluids good.. but blackout = bad.. id say see a real dr.
[07:39] <bit_seqz> AntMaz, blackouts probably due to low blood pressure...
[07:39] <AntMaz> if i goto the er here in gold old redneck west virgina it will be like 4 hours
[07:39] <AntMaz> ah
[07:40] <zenmatt> Boglizk did you try deleting the files in the .Trash folder?
[07:40] <Boglizk> yeah
[07:40] <bit_seqz> AntMaz, oooh, real life apalation emergency room!
[07:40] <distrowatch> can someone please tell me a  good postfix guide ?
[07:40] <Boglizk> said i dont have perm
[07:40] <Haaskaaja> i have loadedqemu, how to use it?
[07:40] <AntMaz> yea im originally from new york
[07:40] <distrowatch> with mysql support :) and also webmail
[07:40] <AntMaz> big change
[07:40] <bit_seqz> AntMaz, like on Saturday night live...
[07:40] <captainredbeard> ok
[07:41] <xaver> NAZGOB
[07:41] <AntMaz> at least were i was from in ny there where like 5 hosipitals all like 10-20 minuetes away
[07:41] <Nazgob> yup? :)
[07:42] <AntMaz> this state sucks
[07:42] <xaver> prv
[07:42] <xaver> ;p
[07:42] <zenmatt> Boglizk open up terminal, cd .Trash  then sudo rm *.*
[07:42] <xaver> umiesz przejsc na prv :D?
[07:42] <Ale33andro> hi
[07:42] <xaver> wpisz /query xaver
[07:42] <iBalo> !pl
[07:42] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[07:42] <xaver> welcome
[07:42] <Boglizk> zen: allright.. i didn't know the remove-command
[07:42] <Ale33andro> there are anyone here that can help me please ?
[07:42] <xaver> NAzgo
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> zenmatt,  Hmm *.* ? why not * :P
[07:42] <Nazgob> pm are blocked, lol :)
[07:43] <xaver> yyy
[07:43] <xaver> fuck them
[07:43] <xaver> :P
[07:43] <Ale33andro> i want to read sata HDD in my computer, but i don't know how
[07:43] <xaver> bediztyu tutaj pisac :|?
[07:43] <zenmatt> Dr_Willis  oops gave myself away as windows user
[07:43] <Nazgob> nope :)
[07:43] <Boglizk> "rm: cannot remove `utdemo': Is a directory"
[07:43] <xaver> chodzm moze na polnet
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> zenmatt,  hah! caught ya!
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:43] <AntMaz> hey i got half life installed it loads up with no sound and when i click on new game it does nothing the only way to exit is to hit alt x i think it was
[07:43] <xaver> pisz po Polskiemu bo ja nie lubie tych zagaranicznyhc jazykow
[07:43] <Nazgob> ok
[07:43] <xaver> ;p
[07:43] <xaver> chodz na PolNet
[07:43] <zenmatt> just switched over this weekend
[07:43] <btdown> kurwa
[07:43] <bit_seqz> now that i have my new laptop working, i have to take appart my old laptop and repair it...
[07:43] <xaver> wiem
[07:43] <xaver> zaloze wlasny kanal
[07:43] <xaver> :D:D
[07:44] <xaver> #olo
[07:44] <xaver> go to olo chanel :D
[07:44] <btdown> paka
[07:44] <AntMaz> oh yay diearea be right back
[07:44] <xaver> pazausta
[07:44] <Boglizk> would you mind?
[07:44] <zenmatt> Boglizk rmdir
[07:44] <xaver> NAZGOL
[07:44] <zenmatt> has to be empty though
[07:44] <alexey__> hi all !
[07:44] <Boglizk> rmdir: `utdemo': Directory not empty
[07:44] <bit_seqz> I think maybe i'll paint some of the panels on my old laptop, what are some good paints/stickers?
[07:45] <xaver> NAZGOB ALE MASZ ZRYWA ;P
[07:45] <Nazgob> omg stop man
[07:45] <alexey__> from a KDE website (FOSDEM news) I have come across revolutionary project - Rosetta.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> heh - bash fundamentals and how to remove files/dirs 101
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> rm -rf DIRNAME
[07:45] <xaver> no idz na #olo
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> or is it -Rf   ... agh..
[07:45] <zenmatt> thanks Dr_Willis,  been a while
[07:45] <southern> is anybody could help me in samba?
[07:45] <Boglizk> i'll try both
[07:45] <alexey__> I think it will ease the translation of all the apps - make the _process_ on steroids !
[07:46] <l00p> I have a question is there any special rule on asking?
[07:46] <southern> I can't access to ubuntu...
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> one of those 'be VERY VERY carefull commands'
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[07:46] <AntMaz> anyone have any idea about that problem
[07:46] <southern> I can't access ubuntu from windows xp
[07:46] <osku> #suomi
[07:46] <l00p> !ask
[07:46] <bit_seqz> l00p, about the only rule is dont ask if its ok to ask...
[07:46] <dynamo> I need help restarting tty1... asciijump froze it and ^Z isn't killing it off. Help?
[07:46] <Boglizk> i have a great program to access ubuntu
[07:46] <l00p> hehe I thought that's a command....
[07:46] <southern> :D
[07:46] <AntMaz> southern cause xp sucks
[07:46] <Boglizk> i'll see what its called
[07:47] <alexey__> southern: of course you can't - because Windows don't understand Linux filesystems !
[07:47] <southern> i know know...
[07:47] <dynamo> Boglizk: is it called ubuntu? ;P
[07:47] <Boglizk> no, explore2fs-1.07
[07:47] <osku> #ubuntu-fi
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> theres another way to get windows full access to ext2/3 linux partions as well
[07:47] <AntMaz> hey i got half life installed it loads up with no sound and when i click on new game it does nothing the only way to exit is to hit alt x i think it was
[07:48] <am3r1ca> anyone know how to install speed touch 330 ???
[07:48] <southern> My samba says access denied!
[07:48] <southern> why?
[07:48] <dynamo> AntMaz: ooc, are you running it on wine or an emu?
[07:48] <xaver> she has true
[07:48] <AntMaz> wine
[07:48] <[-DevinE-] > !nvidia
[07:48] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:48] <xaver> roti toti
[07:48] <xaver> nie macie co robic?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> http://www.fs-driver.org/ - lets windows read/wrute ext2/3 partitins
[07:48] <AntMaz> im guessing it has something to do with direct x
[07:48] <xaver> google wam zamkneli?
[07:48] <AntMaz> but wine is like 98 right
[07:48] <xaver> poszli w pizdu na haxior.com
[07:49] <xaver> kaput!?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Cedega has better DirectX support then Wine.
[07:49] <dynamo> AntMaz: it can simulate more than 98
[07:49] <l00p> OK I'm trying to install ubuntu to my box as dual boot (next to windows). I have a sata disk with ntfs partition and free space. When I try to install ubuntu I only get the option to erase the disk and create new partitions, I can not create partitions on free space. If I try to install Mandriva I don't have the same problem (I just click create partitions on free space).
[07:49] <xaver> bo jak nie to wpierdut
[07:49] <southern> guys it says access denied
[07:49] <AntMaz> can it
[07:49] <xaver> idzcie na #hackpl!
[07:49] <xaver> tam to sie dopiero
[07:49] <xaver> odzywa raz na 2 godizny
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> southern,  you tring to get a windows box to access a linux samba home share?
[07:49] <xaver> a wy tu pierdzielicie
[07:49] <xaver> ciszaaa
[07:49] <T0lkman> how can i install mysql5 on ubuntu ?
[07:49] <xaver> nie nadazam czytac
[07:49] <l00p> I had mandrake 10 installed previously on that free space.
[07:49] <southern> Dr_Willis yes
[07:49] <T0lkman> why mysql isn't in repositories?
[07:49] <dynamo> xaver: I'm sorry, I don't understand a word you're saying, nore have any idea what language it is
[07:50] <am3r1ca> anyone know how to install SPEED TOUCH 330
[07:50] <xaver> heh im traying to shut up u all
[07:50] <xaver> :D:D
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> southern,  you need to do a 'sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME' i belive - to set that users smb password.. and perhaps enter the share name fully for windows. ie: //linuxserver/linuxusername
[07:50] <dynamo> chown -r us ./base :P
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> southern,  or edit the samba.conf and enable browseable for the home share.. and you may want to enable the write feature as well.
[07:51] <southern> Dr_Willis i want security = share
[07:51] <xaver> if u wanna be my freidn take my penis to your hand
[07:51] <Boglizk> what the crap?
[07:51] <dynamo> lmao
[07:51] <southern> browseable = yes guest ok = yes
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> southern,  time to be reading up on that 'using samba' book then. :P and set up the shares as you like.
[07:51] <AntMaz> anyone have the sound problem with half life
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> southern,   i just use the home shares mainly.
[07:52] <southern> :P
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> AntMaz,  if its a wine issue. you may want to check the Wine Homepage/forums/wikis.
[07:52] <am3r1ca> anoyone know how to install Speed Touch 330 ???
[07:52] <AntMaz> well when it installed and you know , Did you hear the sound
[07:52] <AntMaz> i heard it
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> AntMaz,  hear?  huh?
[07:53] <l00p> anyone has any idea on installing ubuntu on free space on a sata disk (without losing all data)?
[07:53] <AntMaz> haer
[07:53] <AntMaz> hear
[07:53] <xaver> gparted
[07:54] <l00p> xaver can you tell me more?
[07:54] <AntMaz> you know the siren sound when the half life installer first loads
[07:54] <xaver> maybe no
[07:54] <iBalo> !dualboot
[07:54] <ubotu> [dualboot]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:54] <xaver> well
[07:54] <xaver> tell me everything
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> AntMaz,  it may help if you made more sence. :) ok.. the GAME sound/config/test thing.
[07:54] <xaver> about
[07:54] <xaver> u have ubuntu installed
[07:54] <[-DevinE-] > !root
[07:54] <xaver> and u want to copy it?
[07:54] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:54] <bit_seqz> l00p, you dont have an option to manually partition?
[07:54] <AntMaz> sorry i feel like shit
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> xaver,  copy from where to where?
[07:55] <zenmatt> Someone able to help with Bittorrent/shell script?
[07:55] <[-DevinE-] > the password protecter root is a super inovation !!
[07:55] <xaver> from partition to partition?
[07:55] <xaver> i odn't understand u l00p
[07:55] <l00p> I have but it doesn't show me any existing partitions
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> [-DevinE-] ,  it is? its  a feature that everyone just sort of ignores. :P lol.
[07:55] <xaver> hmm
[07:55] <mikelo> i get this error when i try to open amule: amule: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_adv-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> been around for ages.
[07:55] <dynamo> okay, on the topic of dual boots, say on GRUB I want it to automatically load windoze when I start up. Do I have to move the "Other operating systems" lines in menu.lst to the top?
[07:55] <xaver> maybe it not compiled FAT?
[07:55] <cnkrtdsko> hey?
[07:55] <bit_seqz> l00p, let me guess, you dont see your sata drives?
[07:56] <pradeep> dynamo .. no
[07:56] <l00p> bit: I see the drive... just that there are no partitions on it
[07:56] <[-DevinE-] > yeat is is ... it stops newby users from doing something rong and it stop malware software from running background commands
[07:56] <xaver> u must format it!
[07:57] <trappist> mikelo: sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.6-0
[07:57] <bit_seqz> l00p, its not a raid drive right?
[07:57] <Donvinzk> is it possible in apt-get to automatically install the recommended packages each time you install one ?
[07:57] <l00p> I have it formatted an windows running on ntfs partition I also have free space for linux partition... but the installer doesn't recognize the partitions
[07:57] <mikelo> trappist, libwxgtk2.6-0 is already the newest version.
[07:57] <dynamo> pradeep: could you tell me how?
[07:57] <cnkrtdsko> does anyone know why i cant unpack the 2 .deb files i just got? it says it is an unsupported format or something...and when i try to do it through the terminal i cant find the folder i put them in (/home/files)
[07:57] <bjornkri> heyhey
[07:57] <l00p> well AFAIK it is not in raid but the motherboard does have raid support
[07:58] <trappist> mikelo: very strange.
[07:58] <iBalo> l00p: Did you choose 'dynamic partitions' in Win?
[07:58] <El-Cid> hrm
[07:58] <bit_seqz> l00p, werid... if you hit manual parition, it should show existing partitions... if it doesn, somethings wrong...
[07:58] <bjornkri> tell me, is the GLSlideshow screensaver jerky for everyone, or is it just me?
[07:58] <mikelo> trappist, i know |-:
[07:58] <pradeep> dynamo that line saying other operating systems is just a line...
[07:58] <boz> Hi  could anyone point me to where and by what name my foxfire bookmarks are at so that I can import them into Opera?
[07:58] <l00p> iBalo: not that I know... what's that?
[07:58] <dynamo> l00p: here's a longshot, but you could go into the windows device manager and make sure the free space isn't formatted with ntfs
[07:58] <_jason> cnkrtdsko: what are they debs of?
[07:58] <bjornkri> It's supersmooth while panning and zooming, but then stops for a second or so every now and then. Probably when loading a new photo...
[07:58] <l00p> I have already succesfully installed mandrake on that free space
[07:59] <cnkrtdsko> oh....ndiswrapper and the other one that goes with it
[07:59] <pradeep> dynamo on the menu.lst where is windows listed?
[07:59] <l00p> dynao: it is free space
[07:59] <El-Cid> boz~ you mean firefox ?
[07:59] <boz> lol yeah sorry
[07:59] <iBalo> l00p: the screwd up Win-version of lvm... if you have this dynamic partition thingy enabled, there's no readable partition table on the drive... win does it's own thing and hides everything
[07:59] <cnkrtdsko> _jason: ndiswrapper and the other one that goes with it
[07:59] <dynamo> pradeep the very bottom... are you suggesting I just need to move all the windows lines to the top?
[07:59] <_jason> cnkrtdsko: are you following the wiki guide?
[07:59] <cnkrtdsko> no?
[08:00] <El-Cid> boz~ i think opera has an automatic importation feature for firefox bookmarks
[08:00] <cnkrtdsko> _jason: link?
[08:00] <l00p> iBalo: how do I check to see if I have one?
[08:00] <_jason> cnkrtdsko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[08:00] <zenmatt> boz firefox has an export feature too Bookmarks/Manage Bookmarks
[08:00] <boz> El-Cid  it asks me for the directory and file name
[08:01] <cnkrtdsko> _jason: thank you :)
[08:01] <pradeep> dynamo you need not.. tell me the number of "titles" before your windows
[08:01] <_jason> !ndiswrapper =~ s!https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper!https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper/
[08:01] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, _jason
[08:01] <_jason> !ndiswrapper =~ s!https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper!https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper!
[08:01] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, _jason
[08:01] <boz> thanks guys I'll try the firefox export .  You guys are great !
[08:01] <El-Cid> boz~ okay hold on
[08:01] <bit_seqz> anyone have the ducky plugin for gkrellm? what does the duck represent? or the water level ?
[08:01] <iBalo> l00p: you have to be in Win(XP|2000) and look in the disk-administration control-applet. (Where the drive letters ...brrr.... are defined)
[08:01] <boz> el-cid k
[08:01] <zenmatt> Someone able to help with Bittorrent/shell script?  http://pastebin.com/577072
[08:02] <dynamo> pradeep: I'm not currently on the box I need to fix, but there should be five titles, windows being the fifth
[08:02] <cnkrtdsko> _jason: it says here i need a windows driver...and im going to assume that it is talking about the drinver for my router correct?
[08:02] <dynamo> pradeep: sorry, windows being the sixth^
[08:03] <_jason> cnkrtdsko: I don't know, I've never setup ndiswrapper
[08:03] <bjornkri> !xscreensaver
[08:03] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bjornkri
[08:03] <cnkrtdsko> _jason: oh ok, well thank you very much anyways
[08:03] <bit_seqz> cnkrtdsko, its whatever windows driver your trying to get working with ndiswrapper... its probably on your windows partition, unless you copied it to your root filesystem somewhere...
[08:04] <dibat> salut
[08:04] <El-Cid> boz~ in your home directory, should be a folder .mozilla, you might need to turn on view hidden folders in the view panel of nautilus inside tht is a folder firefox, inside that is a random looking folder, thats where they are
[08:04] <l00p> iBalo: I'm in... now where do I check for dynamic partitions? do you know or should I just look until I find it
[08:04] <pradeep> dynamo ok open up your menu.lst as root and read the first few lines... you'll see 'default 0' <- meaning the first 'title' on the list is selected by default. So since your windows is 6th: you should change that to 'default 5'
[08:04] <dibat> damned
[08:04] <dibat> que des anglais
[08:04] <dibat> c'est relou
[08:05] <_jason> !fr
[08:05] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[08:05] <dynamo> pradeep: oh awesome! Thanks a lot
[08:05] <dibat> JOIN /AMOUR
[08:05] <curley_sue> Hello - My suspend to RAM functionality got lost somehow - HELP?
[08:05] <_jason> dibat: like this: /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:06] <brady_> I can hear the little beeps that comes from clicking on applications, but I get no sound from vlc.  I tried xmms and it says to check if another program is blocking access to the sound card. How do Icheckthat?
[08:06] <dibat> prend moi pour un teub jason
[08:06] <iBalo> l00p: Please do not ask me to explain windows... somewhere in the admin-tools section there's a disk and partition info utility... cal Bill Gates for support
[08:06] <bit_seqz> curley_sue, heh.. im afraid to try mine!
[08:06] <_jason> brady_: you have to tell those apps to use esd probably
[08:06] <boz> El-Cid Thanks Man.  I use to know a guy from Missouri that went by the handle of El-Cid.  Wouldn't be you would it??? lol
[08:06] <pradeep> dynamo :)
[08:06] <funkyHat|away> Where is php.ini?
[08:07] <brady_> jason: yeah that worked
[08:07] <dynamo> l00p: to acces the device manager, right click on the start menu, properties, advanced, and make sure that Show Administrator Tools is checked. Then you go into the Administrator tools on the start menu and click on Device Manager
[08:07] <StarQuake> funkyHat|away, dpk -L php4 | grep php.ini
[08:07] <l00p> iBalo: I can't find that dynamic yadayada..... but It is funny becouse if I boot with Mandriva disks I see the partitions....
[08:07] <curley_sue> bit_seqz,  meaning?
[08:07] <zenmatt> l00p it's Control Panel/Admin Tools/Computer Management
[08:07] <El-Cid> boz~ nope :-D
[08:07] <dynamo> l00p: The partition tool is under that menu somewhere
[08:07] <StarQuake> funkyHat|away, whoops
[08:07] <theskunk> i think im going to go home and get my ubuntu box and bring it in :-D that should be amusing
[08:07] <StarQuake> funkyHat|away, dpk -L php4-cli | grep php.ini
[08:07] <dynamo> l00p: I remember now, the tab's called Disk Management
[08:07] <boz> well thanks anywho
[08:07] <boz> worked perfectly
[08:08] <iBalo> l00p: ok, then ... it's not enabled, because if mandriva can see it, ubuntu will too, sooner or later
[08:08] <funkyHat|away> StarQuake, lol, neither of those worked, but thanks anyway :), I found it myself
[08:08] <l00p> dynamo: I'm looking at disk managment... but I can see the partitions and there is no mentioning of dynamic yadayada
[08:08] <curley_sue> Hello - My suspend to RAM functionality worked till yesterday and got lost somehow - HELP?
[08:08] <StarQuake> funkyHat|away, i just figured :P
[08:08] <bit_seqz> curley_sue, meaning, i went to a lot of trouble to get my system to not blow up from acpi issues... some stuff doesnt work right, but atleast it isnt blowing up.
[08:08] <zenmatt> Someone able to help with Bittorrent/shell script?  http://pastebin.com/577072
[08:08] <sophie_> sorry what are you discussing about ?
[08:08] <l00p> iBalo: what is not enabled?
[08:08] <dynamo> l00p: right click on the device and see if you can upgrade it to Dynamic Disk without reformatting the whole thing
[08:09] <sophie_> I just arrived and understood nothing !
[08:09] <dynamo> l00p: it may be under format
[08:09] <l00p> am I missing any drivers?
[08:09] <MrSolaris> Anybody use Enlightenment?
[08:09] <_jason> sophie_: this is a support channel, people just ask questions and if someone knows they answer them :)
[08:09] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, yeah, i do...
[08:09] <sophie_> ok !
[08:09] <sophie_> thanks a lot !
[08:09] <sophie_> for this explanation
[08:10] <_jason> sophie_: if you want to ``chat'' there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:10] <iBalo> l00p: dynamic disks in windows is obviously not enabled. Do you have a Linux Live-CD you can boot? the output of 'fdisk -l' would be interesting
[08:10] <Gargoyle> Hey guys, can I symlink to a file on a nfs share?
[08:10] <Gargoyle> correction, a directory
[08:10] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz: I like Enlightenment, but it also frustrates me and I am sure these things can be overcome.  For example how can I get programs to register on the user menu autmatically when I add them, like they do under gnome?
[08:10] <sophie_> ok, can you explain me hox to find these "chats"
[08:10] <trappist> Gargoyle: yes but the symlink will be broken if the share isn't mounted
[08:10] <_jason> sophie_: just write: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:11] <budman> Ive got all kinds of media players both all say I dont have the codec
[08:11] <budman> :-
[08:11] <l00p> iBalo i have liveCD
[08:11] <l00p> I can try
[08:11] <aaronshaf> Anybody know a good Linux GUI for Subversion?
[08:11] <Gargoyle> trappist: But, it will work again as soon as the share is remounted?
[08:11] <MrSolaris> Gargoyle YES
[08:11] <_jason> budman: what kind of file are you trying to play?
[08:11] <budman> .mp4 or .avi
[08:11] <l00p> If I try to make disc dynamic managed it say I won't be abel to use it in other OS's
[08:11] <Gargoyle> that makes things much easier
[08:11] <sophie_> ok !
[08:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell budman about multimedia
[08:12] <sophie_> thanks a lot again
[08:12] <sophie_> !
[08:12] <ubotu> sophie_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:12] <trappist> Gargoyle: yes
[08:12] <ubuntu_> hello ppl
[08:12] <felixfoertsch> good evening
[08:12] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, there are scripts to do that, if you middle click on the desktop, you will get a menu, select Maintanance/Generate Menus
[08:12] <Gopi> One of my friend is having the following problem,"I use a D-link router based connection , cant connect to any IRC servers , cant even ping to them . My ISP forces me to use a static IP 192.168.1.2 which I feel is local address and I am on a proxy it seems .Can someone calrify on this ? I cant connect to any IRC servers.....
[08:13] <felixfoertsch> Is there anyone how could help me with hardware raid?
[08:13] <Gopi> He is trying to login to Ubuntu it seems....
[08:13] <theskunk> Gopi, prolly has the port blocked at the isp
[08:13] <Gopi> theskunk: I see
[08:13] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, I think the script that generates it is Egenmenu or something like that....
[08:13] <theskunk> Gopi, or perhaps a firewall on his local machine is preventing the connection, such as zonealarm, or a virus scanner
[08:13] <zenmatt> Someone able to help with Bittorrent/shell script?  http://pastebin.com/577072
[08:14] <cyphase> something must be screwy with google
[08:14] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, mine doesnt work right... it generates a lot of useless menus.
[08:14] <cyphase> if you search for dapper flight 4 review, i'm number 5
[08:14] <felixfoertsch> Again: is there anyone who is capable of helping me with hardware problems?
[08:14] <cyphase> even though i ended up not doing an actual review
[08:14] <theskunk> felixfoertsch, whats up
[08:14] <felixfoertsch> theskunk: Nice
[08:14] <felixfoertsch> Okay
[08:14] <sesq> I have problem while installing EsounD, 'esd.h:292: error: syntax error before 'AFfilehandle'
[08:14] <sesq> '   - any sugestions ?
[08:15] <felixfoertsch> heres my problem: i did not do that before- i bought two SATA hard drives
[08:15] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz it doesn't make any changes, and I have many programs installed and available under gnome, but only a few of the bare essentials under enlightenment.  This is very frustrating because I dont' always know the command to execute to get a program, so I end up spending a lot of time finding arround the drives or else loading gnome-panel just to get the gnome menu, but that scres my desktop up
[08:15] <_jason> sesq: how are you installing esound?
[08:15] <felixfoertsch> and now i want them as raid 0 drives
[08:15] <felixfoertsch> but i dont know how - and if its even possible
[08:16] <bit_seqz> sesq, uhh... dont use esd. its a sucky solution though...
[08:16] <irv> evening all
[08:16] <irv> day 2 of my ubuntu experience
[08:16] <felixfoertsch> sitting in front of the ubuntu partitioning install program - and dont know what to do
[08:16] <irv> some good stuff some odd
[08:16] <MrSolaris> My second enlightenment frustration is that USB devices, eg camera of thumb drives, doesn't automatically mount.  A small frustration, but still there.  Neither does CDroms.  These work fine when I run gnome.
[08:16] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: what are you trying to do?
[08:16] <sesq> i need esd for GNUgadu
[08:16] <irv> does ubuntu have some sort of default sleep mode it goes into if left alone for along time
[08:16] <theskunk> felixfoertsch, im sorry, but i've never set up a raid 0.... i know it is possible if they are of the same size, but i do not know how ubuntu would recognize them. im sure that when the initial screen comes up, where you have a cursor and just press enter, there should be a raid.i option that you can press
[08:16] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, yeah, i use gnome panel with E.
[08:17] <theskunk> felixfoertsch, or type, or something like that...
[08:17] <Gargoyle> I am having some network problems i think. If I ssh to my install (running under vertual pc), I get the connection, but then there is a long delay before I get the password prompt.
[08:17] <sesq> bit_seqz, i downloaded esd from http://www.tux.org/~ricdude/EsounD.html
[08:17] <theskunk> but i've only done it through slackware and Fedoca
[08:17] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: i want to set up two SATA drives as raid 0 group
[08:17] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, the right way to do it would be to edit the scripts that generate the menus, but thats a lot of work...
[08:17] <theskunk> *fedora
[08:17] <Gargoyle> also, sometimes mounting nfs will give PRC timeout, but others it works fine.
[08:17] <felixfoertsch> hm
[08:17] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, Is there a way to start gnome-panel without it taking over the desktop as well (So I can keep access to the e-menu for what it is worth?
[08:17] <Gargoyle> any tips on where to start looking into this?
[08:17] <irv> I went to work this mornng and left the box turned on, but couldn't get anything out of it when I returned 9 hours later without a hard reboot
[08:18] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, sure... you can start it, and move it anywhere you like.
[08:18] <felixfoertsch> theskunk: there is an option "configure software raid" - but i thought i could do hardware raid?
[08:18] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: first of all. raid0 is nonsense in 90 percent of all cases, 2nd, is there a raid-controller in your box or do you want software raid?
[08:18] <theskunk> felixfoertsch, not sure... my best suggestion would be just lookup ubuntu hardware raid0 in google
[08:18] <gleesond> I wan't to install eclips for programming in java but I don't know what pkgs to add
[08:19] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, I don't want it to "cover over" the desktop / background.... I want to still have my desktop menu...
[08:19] <bit_seqz> felixfoertsch, a lot of people think that... then they find out they have software controller :(
[08:19] <felixfoertsch> well - how do i find that out?
[08:19] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, i dont see the problem?
[08:19] <curley_sue> HELP - My suspend to RAM functionality got lost somehow - ideas anyone?
[08:19] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: well my friend set this up with windows - and he told me that it is much faster :P
[08:19] <MrSolaris> My third Enlightenment frustration is the silly way it moves the menu up or down when there isn't enough space on the screen.... I hate it when anything moves the mouse pointer other than me!
[08:20] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, yeah, me too... especially when your ruinning synergy with serveral computers!
[08:20] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: what exactly is the difference between software and hardware raid 0
[08:20] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, The problem is when I have gnome-panel running, it loads a desktop background and I can not use the desktop menu from enlightenment untill I quite gnome-panel
[08:20] <Timster> Can anyone give me a hand using the live cd
[08:21] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: don't believe the 'windows-experts'...  http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html
[08:21] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, are you running gnome-panel & ?
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> Timster, You might have more luck if you give more specifics.
[08:21] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, the "&" is irrelevant.  I am not talking about the shell... in fact I use xrun.
[08:21] <Timster> Well, i booted the CD and it is giving me a Server X error with text randomly accross the screen, as if theres no edge
[08:21] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, maybe xrun is your problem then?
[08:22] <Timster> I think its an error in my Boot files
[08:22] <bit_seqz> i have e startup with gnome-panel and gkrellm.
[08:22] <MrSolaris> Or actually I use E-Exec now
[08:22] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, no, it doesn't matter what I use.  I am talking about the desktop.
[08:22] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: don't do it... if you don't know wht you are doing, chances are, that you fail. You can set up ubuntu the 'good old fashioned way (TM)' and introduce raid0 later, when you are more at home in it
[08:23] <MrSolaris> when I start gnome-panel, gnome-panel does more than just display the panels.  It also takes over the desktop, and I don't want it to do that.
[08:23] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: so it's possible to set up software raid afterwards?
[08:23] <koyoda> can i have dapper backports on breezy?
[08:23] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, well.. i dont understand something... I use e, and the gnome panel, and use the e menu's and desktop...
[08:23] <budman> okay ive done all that multimedia stuff
[08:24] <budman> still nothing
[08:24] <wvelez> hi...does anyone know how to block a specific URL in dansguardian? thanks
[08:24] <ufo> how do i get mplayer or totem to play dvd movies
[08:24] <Timster> I have a Live CD probblem, Well, i booted the CD and it is giving me a Server X error with text randomly accross the screen, as if theres no edge
[08:24] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, Do you start gnome-panel with options?
[08:24] <kyrel> Hello
[08:24] <budman> how do I load the tatum-xine it had it install
[08:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell ufo about dvd
[08:24] <bit_seqz> budman, you probably just need to point your programs at the codecs, or link the codecs to whereever your programs like them to be found...
[08:24] <MrSolaris> ignore that, the man page says it doesnt have options
[08:24] <_jason> budman: totem-xine you mean?
[08:24] <T0lkman> anyone know when mysql 5 will be in repositories?
[08:25] <budman> yes jason
[08:25] <iBalo> yes, if you have enough space on the drive to hold the normal partition (which can be 3-4 GB only) and then two partitions that can be turned into raid volumes... read the link i gave you above
[08:25] <kyrel> Is there a problem with the 2.6.12 kernel ? I'can't compile some programs because of the gen_crc32table.c file and/or the uint32_t type...
[08:25] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, I load it in my .xinitrc, but ive just run it from a shell before...
[08:25] <budman> I followed the links you gave me from the bot
[08:25] <_jason> budman: just run totem.  Did you also install w32codecs which were linked on that page?
[08:25] <budman> yeap
[08:25] <budman> ive installed those over and over
[08:25] <_jason> budman: you should be good to go
[08:26] <trzy_em> hello, i'm lookin for ubuntu or kubuntu logo in blender format
[08:26] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: anyway - i want this. have you ever set up a raid level 0? would you help me installing it?
[08:26] <ufo> _jason: does the seveas work in dapper?
[08:26] <budman> Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[08:26] <budman> Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[08:26] <_jason> ufo: I don't know
[08:26] <budman> Video codec 'ISO-MPEG4/OpenDivx' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[08:26] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, I don't know why this is, but gnome-panel is not doing it any more, it is now behaving like you say....
[08:26] <budman> i get those 2 errors
[08:26] <_jason> ufo: try #ubuntu+1
[08:26] <budman> 2 types of movies
[08:26] <MrSolaris> I started it and now I can still access the E-menu
[08:27] <T0lkman> anyone know when mysql 5 will be in repositories?
[08:27] <MrSolaris> BRB
[08:27] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, k
[08:27] <_jason> budman: is this file available for download somehwere?
[08:27] <budman> The movie?
[08:27] <_jason> budman: ye
[08:27] <_jason> s
[08:27] <budman> Its 300 megs
[08:27] <budman> I know the movie works ive got it on another ubuntu laptop right next to me
[08:27] <budman> and it plays
[08:27] <curley_sue> can anyone HELP me with SUSPEND to RAM - it worked till yesterday and no longer does!
[08:28] <budman> this new box just wont work
[08:28] <l00p> iBalo: the fdisk -l does not say any thing
[08:28] <budman> no clue
[08:28] <kyrel> Can someone HELP me ?
[08:28] <_jason> budman: try mplayer
[08:28] <budman> im trying 2 types of movies .mp4 and .avi
[08:28] <_jason> !helpme
[08:28] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:28] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: i did try it, found no particular speed benefit in it, only doubling the risk of losing all data ifonly one disk fails, it's a pain in the rear to properly backup... you'll get nothing but trouble for no practical speed gain
[08:28] <bit_seqz> l00p, sudo fdisk -l
[08:28] <l00p> i did it as root
[08:28] <koyoda> can i have dapper backports on breezy?
[08:28] <budman> !helpme codecs
[08:29] <ubotu> budman: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:29] <budman> !helpme codec
[08:29] <ubotu> budman: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:29] <budman> !helpme w32
[08:29] <ubotu> budman: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:29] <uri> hello all.
[08:29] <l00p> sudo passwd.... then su.... then fdisk -l and nothing
[08:29] <_jason> koyoda: dapper backports no such thing
[08:29] <HappyFool> !w32codecs
[08:29] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:29] <curley_sue> kyral,  u have to ask the question...
[08:29] <iBalo> l00p: did u 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[08:29] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, I'm back
[08:29] <T0lkman> is here some of ubuntu developers?
[08:29] <budman> jason im installing mplayer now.
[08:29] <curley_sue> !tell me about suspend
[08:29] <kyrel> !helpme compilation
[08:29] <ubotu> kyrel: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:29] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, so... everything working?
[08:29] <l00p> iBalo: I did it as root
[08:29] <curley_sue> !tell me about sleep
[08:29] <_jason> guys, stop spamming the bot please
[08:30] <curley_sue> !suspend
[08:30] <ubotu> curley_sue: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:30] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, the gnome-panel is working OK now....
[08:30] <MrSolaris> Weird.
[08:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell budman about mplayer
[08:30] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, yeah, but im guessing if you gen menus, it will be ugly...
[08:30] <curley_sue> can anyone HELP me with SUSPEND to RAM - it worked till yesterday and no longer does!
[08:30] <iBalo> l00p: hmm, and 'cat /proc/partitions' gives waht?
[08:30] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: Hm. Okay. One last question: would you adivse me to install the OS on an IDE oder an SATA drive?
[08:31] <bit_seqz> felixfoertsch, ide
[08:31] <DistroWatch> for witch one should i go to setup postfix http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ or http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/  ?
[08:31] <l00p> OK guys thank you for now... I'm going to have a drink with my pal and then I'll go to the carneval
[08:31] <l00p> maybe next time
[08:31] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: sata would be faster of course
[08:31] <felixfoertsch> bit_seqz - why?
[08:31] <l00p> but thanks for patience
[08:31] <h4ll0w33nr4c3r> nabend
[08:31] <Timster> Hi, can i have some support iwth the Live cd? Well, i booted the CD and it is giving me a Server X error with text randomly accross the screen, as if theres no edge
[08:31] <bit_seqz> felixfoertsch, less problems
[08:31] <ryanakca> how do you change your pgp passphrase?
[08:31] <felixfoertsch> bit_seqz is that so?
[08:32] <felixfoertsch> bit_seqz: What problems do you mean?
[08:32] <bit_seqz> booting, installing, ...
[08:33] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: What do you say? Are there more problems with SATA?
[08:33] <klonner> hola
[08:33] <fredo> hi
[08:33] <Lacky> hi, how can i make a screenshot in kubuntu?
[08:33] <curley_sue> need HELP with SUSPEND to RAM - it worked till yesterday and no longer does!
[08:33] <T0lkman> if i have something.c how i compile it?
[08:34] <fredo> do you know guys where are the repositories for  libgtk-1.2 ? thanks
[08:34] <_jason> T0lkman: gcc something.c
[08:34] <budman> mplayer worked
[08:34] <uri> Hi all, I just installed Ubuntu on my work computer. However, I can't seem to change the ownership of any of the files on my FAT32 partitions. They're currently owned by root. And using sudo chown doesn't do it.
[08:34] <budman> ur the man jason
[08:35] <_jason> Lacky: you may want to try asking in #kubuntu as well
[08:35] <budman> why doesnt xine or the others work?
[08:35] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: yes, sata /can/ be troublesome on some systems..... if the installer offers it to you, I'd go sata (coz it's recognized then). if not IDE is the less troublesome option
[08:35] <_jason> budman: how did you install the codecs?  with the deb?
[08:35] <HappyFool> uri: i don't think FAT32 supports ownership. you can use the 'umask' mount option to allow other users access to the files
[08:35] <bit_seqz> budman, my guess is xine isnt finding the codecs
[08:35] <budman> mplayer seems to lag a bit more
[08:35] <Lacky> ok, thanks _jason
[08:35] <budman> but im goign to watch my movie
[08:35] <budman> i thank you a million times
[08:35] <skateinmars> hello everybody
[08:35] <budman> great to have a free support like this
[08:36] <T0lkman> _jason tnx
[08:36] <bit_seqz> budman, mplayer is probably using the wrong video or sound driver then...
[08:36] <budman> is there a donate link?
[08:36] <T0lkman> anyone know when mysql 5 will be in repositories?
[08:36] <funkyHat|away> I have a major problem with a apache2/php server running on ubuntu...
[08:36] <skateinmars> I have a little question
[08:36] <funkyHat|away> Some pages just aren't showing up at all
[08:36] <skateinmars> is it possible to use xgl on ubuntu breezy without so many problems?
[08:36] <_jason> budman: probably somewhere on ubuntu.com
[08:36] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: What do you mean by "if the installer offers it to you"? Are you talking about the possibility of partitioning it? I removed my IDE drive from my computer - and just have two sata drives left in it - and its possible to partitionate them both
[08:37] <funkyHat|away> Certain pages just don't show anything at all...
[08:37] <T0lkman> funkyHat|away try to reconfigure apache2
[08:37] <ryanakca> how do you change your pgp passphrase?
[08:37] <HappyFool> !donate
[08:37] <ubotu> donate is probably See http://www.ubuntu.com/donations for donating to Ubuntu
[08:38] <funkyHat|away> ryanakca, generate a new key
[08:38] <christophe> hello, I'm new and I don't know if I am in the good place, I'have just one question : Where can I find a list of wifi module supported in ubuntu. I don't  want to use ndiswrapper. thanks
[08:38] <kcul> worth installing ubuntu?
[08:38] <curley_sue> need HELP with SUSPEND to RAM - it worked till yesterday and no longer does!
[08:38] <kcul> just curious, coz i dont want to fuck up windows coz of this
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> !wifi
[08:38] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:38] <ryanakca> funkyHat|away: do I HAVE to generate a new key to change the passphrase?
[08:38] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: just boot a Ubuntu Live-CD and see, if the disk are recognized properly. If so, the everything is fine and you can think of a _really_ _clever_ partition layoutto make raid0 obsolete :)
[08:38] <_jason> kcul: try the livecd, personally I find ubuntu 100x better than windows
[08:39] <kcul> ic
[08:39] <frank23> kcul: try the livecd. no risk to screw windows up
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> christophe, That might have some information, or links to it.  I can tell you from my experience that an Intel Pro/Wireless 2915 a/b/g works great ootb.
[08:39] <kcul> but look, i want to dual boot though
[08:39] <kcul> will it mess windows?
[08:39] <MrSolaris> How can I know what DDR speed my memory is operating at?
[08:39] <El-Cid> no
[08:39] <kcul> or should i partition like 5GB and install there
[08:39] <derekS> kcul: as i tell my friends (and many have switched) there is almost nothing you cant do on linux that you can do on windows, and if you dual boot, you will stay using what you are familiar with (windows).
[08:40] <derekS> i reccomend going to linux cold turkey for the best experience
[08:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell kcul about dualboot
[08:40] <sambagirl> http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> kcul, I have a dual-boot, it's not particularly difficult to set up (see the factoid).
[08:40] <kcul> ic
[08:40] <kcul> i had problems last night i installed xandros
[08:41] <kcul> i had hard time deleting that mbr stugg
[08:41] <bit_seqz> MrSolaris, your bios will tell you that at boot.
[08:41] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: i dont have any ubuntu live CD flying around right now :P - does a knoppix live cd work too?
[08:41] <christophe> tonyyarusso, Ubotu Thanks for your answer
[08:41] <MrSolaris> bit_seqz, I am looking for a program which will tell me on a running system
[08:42] <kcul> run_qtparted
[08:42] <kcul> what is this
[08:42] <kcul> does ubuntu have that GUI stuff like windows?
[08:42] <kcul> or only console?
[08:42] <sambagirl> laugh
[08:42] <_jason> kcul: gui stuff too
[08:43] <_jason> kcul: although if you want, you can do no gui
[08:43] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: there's important differences in ubuntu and knoppix. Just start an install, and see what the partitioning tool offers you. You can bail out before anythin is written to disk, if you don't like what you see
[08:43] <kcul> im bout to install it right now
[08:43] <kcul> wish me luck!
[08:43] <dooglus> sambagirl: see also http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/footy/
[08:44] <frank23> kcul: I find the windows to kubuntu transition easier than windows to ubuntu
[08:44] <Nazgob> kcul -> maybe you should read more about Ubuntu before installing
[08:44] <frank23> he left
[08:44] <_jason> he'll be fine, I hope :)
[08:44] <uri> HappyFool: I would run Knoppix and supported ownership just fine. Ditto my home computer
[08:45] <Obiwan_72> sorry... but an italian chat?
[08:45] <_jason> !it
[08:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:46] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: I do see both SATA drives - and as one of them is new - there shouldn't be any partition table on it. So you advise me just to think about a clever partitioning and then install it? :P
[08:46] <uri> Hi all, I just installed Ubuntu on my work computer. However, I can't seem to change the ownership of any of the files on my FAT32 partitions. They're currently owned by root. And using *sudo chown* doesn't do it. (And yes, FAT32 does support ownership, they were working fine with KNOPPIX.)
[08:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell uri about vfat
[08:46] <_jason> uri: see the table half way down the page on that link ubotu just sent you
[08:47] <frank23> uri: fat32 doesnt have owners
[08:47] <felixfoertsch> iBalo: Question over question: Should I choose primary or logical?
[08:47] <funkyHat|away> ryanakca, yes I'm pretty sure you do, unfortunately
[08:47] <nm> uri: ntfs supports permissions, fat32 doesn't, if you need to implement ownership/permissions on a fat32 file system in windows you have to do it with share level permissions
[08:47] <iBalo> Good! Yes... so it's best to have a swap partition on each drive (kernel does kinda raid0 automatically for swap then) and have /home and /var on different partitions
[08:48] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: btw if you understand german let's move over to #ubuntu-de
[08:48] <felixfoertsch> Okay.
[08:49] <T0lkman> anyone know when mysql 5 will be in repositories?
[08:49] <luite> it's already in dapper
[08:49] <kimo__> I just installed from debootstrap, my / system is on LVM, kernel boot great but can't mount /, any help please ?
[08:49] <frank23> T0lkman: maybe it will be in backports. if not, only in dapper
[08:49] <b0r3d_m0nk3y> hey
[08:49] <T0lkman> frank23 dapper? where is it?
[08:50] <frank23> !tell T0lkman about dapper
[08:50] <T0lkman> oh ok
[08:50] <T0lkman> but...
[08:50] <ScreaminIke> what's happenin', peeps?  can i get a little wget help?
[08:50] <T0lkman> if i am installing server now
[08:51] <mdv> yo
[08:51] <T0lkman> what then i need to reinstall it ;[ ?
[08:51] <uri> _Jason: ah I think the problem is the fstab entry
[08:51] <T0lkman> i am building collocated server here
[08:51] <_jason> uri: yep, you need to use the right options
[08:51] <_jason> ScreaminIke: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[08:51] <T0lkman> i wanna install web/mysql and put it in ISP datacenter
[08:51] <mdv> if someone know how to open the ubunut firewall i will be happy
[08:52] <_jason> mdv: what do you be by opening the firewall?
[08:52] <mdv> nicotine work bad with a closed firewall
[08:52] <mdv> i dont want a firewall
[08:53] <irv> so does ubuntu have some sort of auto-sleep mode by default, or did I just have bad luck
[08:53] <irv> again
[08:53] <_jason> mdv: ubuntu doesn't close any ports by default
[08:53] <mdv> ok
[08:53] <mdv> so maybe how can i chek if my ports are open or not
[08:53] <ScreaminIke> right. I have a directory with multiple subdirectories. in each of these subdirectories are multiple input files for wget. an assortment of urls properly constructed into text-files. is there ONE command i can issue wget to get it to retrieve EACH of the files and place them into their relative directories?
[08:54] <_jason> mdv: you can a) learn iptables or b) install firestarter or another gui frontend for iptables.  Note however that if you do install firestarter, it WILL setup iptables rules and block ports until you modify it
[08:54] <_jason> mdv: sudo iptables -L, will list the iptables rules you currently have
[08:55] <mdv> so th ebest for me is to install firestarer
[08:55] <marlun> I've got SoundBlaster Live and I can't get Rythmbox to play music =/
[08:55] <frank23> mdv: you can also use firestarter to just open everything I think
[08:55] <mdv> ok thanks
[08:55] <uri> OK all, perhaps I'm not explaining myself correctly. I want to be able to *EDIT* my files in my FAT32 partition. (I used to do this just fine in KNOPPIX). I just changed the fstab entry to "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" as per the WIKI link, but still no dice (after remounting of course)
[08:55] <mdv> i try with firestarter
[08:55] <disasm> _jason: won't show any NAT rules, you need iptables -L -t nat to show NAT rules
[08:55] <_jason> uri: that should work, what permissions do the files show?
[08:56] <ryanakca> how do you change your pgp passphrase?
[08:56] <_jason> mdv: listen to disasm
[08:56] <_jason> disasm: thanks
[08:56] <taurboy> hello all, I have any problem, Can your help me?
[08:57] <uri> _jason: they show "-rw-rw-rw- "
[08:57] <_jason> uri: then you have write permissions, you should be able to edit them
[08:58] <rics> taurboy, I can give you some of my own problems... :D
[08:58] <uri> _jason: DOOOOOHH!!!  You're right, they work. Thanks all!
[08:58] <_jason> uri: :)
[08:58] !lilo:*! Hmmm, we're almost to 30,000 users, though I doubt we'll make it today. Kind of cool though.
[08:58] <HappyFool> taurboy: just ask; we'll help if we can
[08:58] <taurboy> rics no thank jajaja
[08:58] <uri> _Jason: (I was trying to chown them. DOH)
[08:58] <ryanakca> how do you change your pgp passphrase?
[08:58] <justin_> ESD refuses to run,   when i run it from the commandline it exits $?=0
[08:58] <uri> thanks all
[08:59] <taurboy> My problem is, that I can't install the program, Why was can?
[08:59] <disasm> mdv: what ports are you interested in finding out if they are open?
[08:59] <ScreaminIke> I have a directory with multiple subdirectories. in each of these subdirectories are multiple input files for wget. an assortment of urls properly constructed into text-files. is there ONE command i can issue wget to get it to retrieve EACH of the files and place them into their relative directories?
[08:59] <irv> this is like wading through treacle
[08:59] <irv> I hate moving distros
[09:00] <|stefan|> anyone knows if there are any mysql packages for asterisk in ubuntu ?
[09:00] <justin_> does anyone have expertise debuggin ESD?
[09:00] <disasm> mdeboer: also are you trying to access locally or remotely? If remotely sometimes ISP's block ports on oyu
[09:00] <_jason> irv: what bad luck did you have?
[09:00] <disasm> mdeboer: sorry, thats to mdv
[09:00] <taurboy> Someone that I can help
[09:00] <Gargoyle> is there a command I can use to change the UID and GID's with breaking already installed programs.. eg, change postfix from 100 to 108 to match the nfs share system?
[09:00] <irv> it's a long list _jason
[09:00] <jdpj> ol
[09:00] <HappyFool> taurboy: i don't understand your question. what program can't you install?
[09:00] <jdpj> helo
[09:01] <dpy> hi guys
[09:01] <irv> does ubuntu have a default stanby mode after a ceratin time
[09:01] <ryanakca> infi: gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.2.1
[09:01] <irv> certain
[09:01] <dpy> does anyone here know if ubuntu livecd can be used on rewritable media as well ?
[09:01] <taurboy> happyfool The program is amsn, although I can't anything
[09:01] <jdpj> alguem aqui sabe como configurar o ubuntu para executar arquivos asx
[09:01] <siriusnova> hullo
[09:01] <siriusnova> is 10GB enough for an ubuntu install ?
[09:02] <taurboy> Sorry for my expresion, but my english is poor XD
[09:02] <_jason> irv: check system > prefs > screensaver > advanced
[09:02] <HappyFool> taurboy: did you use synaptic to install amsn ?
[09:02] <ScreaminIke> I have a directory with multiple subdirectories. in each of these subdirectories are multiple input files for wget. an assortment of urls properly constructed into text-files. is there ONE command i can issue wget to get it to retrieve EACH of the files and place them into their relative directories?
[09:02] <MrSolaris> My mouse scroll wheel is not working today.... sigh
[09:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell jdpj about w32codecs
[09:02] <Stormx2> Is there a wiki page on getting a plugin for firefox installed to play videos?
[09:02] <_jason> jdpj: #ubuntu-br e #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugues
[09:03] <MrSolaris> And how do I get USB and CDroms / DVDs to auto-mount while using Enlightenment?
[09:03] <jdpj> sim
[09:03] !lilo:*! as ever, comments and discussion in response to wallops and global announcements can be brought over to #freenode-wallops .... be kind :)
[09:03] <MrSolaris> siriusnova, yeah that should be plenty
[09:03] <taurboy> Happyfool but as use the synaptic to install, I was beginin in linux
[09:03] <_jason> Stormx2: install mozilla-mplayer after installing mplayer
[09:03] <jdpj> ja tentei instalar o mplayer
[09:03] <_jason> jdpj: /join #ubuntu-pt, eu vou la para falar contigo
[09:04] <jdpj> ok
[09:04] <HappyFool> taurboy: i do not understand, sorry. Is amsn installed ?
[09:04] <taurboy> yes
[09:04] <jdpj> oi
[09:04] <Stormx2> _jason: Its installed... I just have no sound.
[09:04] <HappyFool> taurboy: ok. How did you install it ?
[09:04] <dynamo> I have a problem with two of my TTYs freezing. Does anyone know how to restart them? ^Z wouldn't force kill whatever was freezing them
[09:04] <_jason> Stormx2: did you setup the right sound output?
[09:05] <Stormx2> _jason: How do I do that?
[09:05] <Stormx2> _jason: (no)
[09:05] <_jason> Stormx2: can you right click on it and go to options?
[09:05] <Stormx2> Ill try
[09:05] <vtomek> hy! i have problem with my wifi pcmcia card! Pls help
[09:05] <tindust> hi all, I installed rhythmbox on ubuntu, imported all of my music, but when trying to play I get the error "could not open resource for writing".  When trying to play a radio stream I get the error "Couldn't stop playback.  Failed to close audio output sink.  Stream error unexpected end of stream".  Would it have something to do with my file permissions?
[09:05] <kimo__> I just installed from debootstrap, my / system is on LVM, kernel boot great but can't mount /, any help please ?
[09:05] <HappyFool> dynamo: you know about ^S and ^Q ? (^S freezes terminal and ^Q unfreezes -- has caught me many times)
[09:06] <_jason> Stormx2: if not, you can use ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf
[09:06] <Stormx2> _jason: Oh wait its flash >_<
[09:06] <_jason> Stormx2: heh, what sound output do you use?
[09:06] <Stormx2> _jason: Any which works o.O sometimes one just stops working so I switch to another...
[09:06] <taurboy> I open a terminal for install, sorry but my english is poor, but I repeat
[09:06] <_jason> Stormx2: do you use alsa?
[09:07] <_jason> jdpj: entao, consegues entrar no #ubuntu-pt?
[09:07] <taurboy> happyfool you understand
[09:07] <HappyFool> taurboy: did you type this: 'sudo apt-get install amsn' ?
[09:07] <Stormx2> _jason: Yes.
[09:07] <vtomek> pls help for install my pcmcia wifi card
[09:07] <vtomek> thx
[09:08] <Stormx2> !wifi
[09:08] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:08] <_jason> Stormx2: install the alsa-oss package and run firefox with 'aoss firefox'
[09:08] <dynamo> happyfool: that seemed to work for one frozen tty =) Problem being the one that froze from asciijump still isn't doing anything, except when I hit enter it returns another line of blankness and no prompt
[09:08] <vtomek> thx
[09:08] <_jason> Stormx2: and write a letter to macromedia...
[09:08] <Stormx2> _jason :P
[09:08] <taurboy> Happyfool I will prove with you say, I hope that install
[09:09] <vanne> can anyone tell me in what package i can find /usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig ? tia
[09:09] <HappyFool> taurboy: that might not work depending on if you have already installed amsn
[09:09] <ScreaminIke> I have a directory with multiple subdirectories. in each of these subdirectories are multiple input files for wget. an assortment of urls properly constructed into text-files. is there ONE command i can issue wget to get it to retrieve EACH of the files and place them into their relative directories?
[09:09] <vtomek> how can i setup my pcmcia slot?
[09:09] <HappyFool> taurboy: what is your first language? maybe we can find better help for you.
[09:10] <HappyFool> vanne: packages.ubuntu.com has a search-in-packages facility
[09:10] <taurboy> HappyFool My first language is the Spanish
[09:10] <vanne> HappyFool: it does? cool. thx
[09:11] <HappyFool> taurboy: ah-ha! have you tried #ubuntu-es ?
[09:11] <_jason> ScreaminIke: no one seems to know offhand, have you read through man wget?
[09:11] <[balayhashi] > can i paste two lines in here?
[09:11] <[balayhashi] > lol
[09:11] <_jason> [balayhashi] : yes, you just wasted 2 of them though :P
[09:11] <ScreaminIke> i'm such a n00b.
[09:11] <[balayhashi] > lol :)
[09:11] <ScreaminIke> no, _jason.... i haven't
[09:11] <ScreaminIke> i mean...
[09:11] <ScreaminIke> i tried
[09:11] <NCLife> my k3b dont start up unless i do a sudo k3b in a terminal and it doesnt burn dvds right
[09:11] <ScreaminIke> they are SO confusing.
[09:11] <[balayhashi] > /usr/lib/python2.4/distutils/dist.py:236: UserWarning: Unknown distribution option: 'entry_points'
[09:11] <NCLife> what should i do, reinstall it
[09:11] <[balayhashi] >   warnings.warn(msg)
[09:11] <[balayhashi] >  - wy should i do?
[09:11] <NCLife> =
[09:12] <NCLife> ?
[09:12] <dynamo> ScreaminIke: you could always try posting it in the forums =)
[09:12] <taurboy> HappyFool, not thank for you help, I have tried into channel
[09:12] <ScreaminIke> i'm nearly done doing this manually.
[09:12] <dynamo> lol
[09:12] <DShepherd> does gparted resize partitions non-destructively
[09:12] <DShepherd> ?
[09:12] <_jason> ScreaminIke: try wget -r
[09:13] !lilo:*! if you'd like to help us sit on the edge of our seats, biting our fingernails, for the next few days until hopefully we break through the 30000-user mark, please stop by #freenode-30k .... spread the word, and bring popcorn. Thanks :)
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> wget -r?
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> hold on
[09:14] <vanne> HappyFool: gives me several hundreds of hits
[09:14] <vanne> but thx anyway
[09:15] <osku> #ubuntu-gi
[09:15] <dpy> has anyone tried to get multisession ubuntu livecd to work ?
[09:15] <osku> #ubuntu-fi
[09:15] <LjL> vanne: what you looking for?
[09:15] <HappyFool> vanne: i get 0 hits for that file (with path)
[09:15] <NCLife> mmh, how do i uninstall and reinstall k3b
[09:15] !lilo:*! P.S., don't cheat :)
[09:15] <HappyFool> vanne: you're perchance trying to compile a programming requiring X header files ?
[09:16] <vanne> i am
[09:16] <HappyFool> vanne: have you installed the x-window-system-dev package?
[09:17] <LjL> vanne: anyway that file appears to actually be a directory, which in ubuntu must probably *not* reside in the path you gave
[09:17] <LjL> vanne: /usr/lib/pkgconfig is in ubuntu, but /usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig isn't
[09:17] <vanne> nope, i was trying to install es less packages as possible. but i already give up. i dont mind installing 2GB of -dev packages
[09:18] <ara> hm, where can i get gnome's mouse switcher ?
[09:18] <LjL> vanne: i think it's more like 100MB or less
[09:18] <irv> _jason, thanks for the system --> pref --> screen saver -->  advanced tip but unfortunately everytime I hit the advanced tab my system locks up
[09:19] <bad_iNFO> how do you mount a windows network share as a drive?\
[09:19] <LjL> bad_iNFO: "mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt/blah -o username=whatever"
[09:20] <bad_iNFO> ty
[09:20] <irv> not smbmount
[09:20] <irv> is that same lilo who was in #mepis last night
[09:20] <irv> oh [global] 
[09:20] <LjL> smbmount is not supposed to be called directly - anyway, you should mount as cifs, smbfs is obsoleted
[09:20] <irv> that is superops
[09:20] <LjL> irv: i have no clue, but lilo is just about the most important guy on freenode
[09:21] <_jason> irv: check ~/.xscreensaver, don't know why your system would lock up
[09:21] <irv> yes, sosmeone said it was celebrity night
[09:21] <scottj> what's the name of the x11 package that's needed to compiling x11 apps?
[09:21] <LjL> scottj: x-window-system-dev
[09:21] <irv> it was he who persuaded me to try ubuntu
[09:21] <HappyFool> 2GB of packages :P
[09:22] <scottj> LjL: I think there's a different one that just has the libraries needed or headers for compiling x11 apps
[09:22] <xerophyte> how can i block size of unformated disk ??
[09:22] <LjL> scottj: xlibs-dev
[09:22] <Gargoyle> is there anything else unique to a single install that I need to change if I clone the machine to another one apart from IP address and hostname?
[09:22] <LjL> scottj: but you really do need the whole thing, to compile many apps
[09:23] <mikemc> in a home network, do i need to run a server or can i just use a router?
[09:23] <iskywalker> hi! how can i install ubuntu over the network?
[09:23] <colm> mikemc, a router is fine - depends on your needs of course, but for connection sharing a router is fine
[09:23] <iskywalker> it tries always to copy remaining files from cd
[09:23] <LjL> Gargoyle: i can't think of something. except usernames and passwords of course ;)
[09:24] <vanne> HappyFool: did you mean xserver-xorg-dev instead of  x-window-system-dev ?
[09:24] <mikemc> colm: how then can I connect to another system in the network?
[09:24] <LjL> W: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-dev
[09:24] <MrSolaris> Weirdly my mouse scroll-wheel just started to work again ....
[09:24] <Gargoyle> LjL: They are OK, its just to quickly make another machine in my virtual cluster
[09:24] <LjL> vanne: W: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-dev
[09:24] <HappyFool> vanne: yeah, i don't have that package either
[09:24] <vanne> i do :)
[09:24] <LjL> vanne: are you on Breezy?
[09:24] <vanne> dapper
[09:25] <LjL> vanne: check the topic then ;)
[09:25] <xerophyte> how can i find the block size of a disk, which  is unformated?
[09:25] <LjL> vanne: but then, xorg-server-dev does sound like the right package, if you don't have x-window-system-dev
[09:25] <mo> hello
[09:25] <mo> i need some help...ive probs with nautilus
[09:26] <HappyFool> ah. i'm on breezy. maybe that's the one. check out apt-cache show xserver-xorg-dev, or apt-cache depends xserver-xorg-dev
[09:26] <LjL> !helpme
[09:26] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:26] <irv> locate .xscreensaver
[09:26] <irv>     /usr/share/doc/rss-glx/README.xscreensaver
[09:26] <mo> ok
[09:26] <iskywalker> how can i install ubuntu over the network?
[09:26] <iskywalker> it tries always to copy remaining files from cd
[09:26] <mo> i have mount a new hd
[09:26] <HappyFool> i dunno, x-window-system-dev is a fairly general name
[09:26] <vanne> thx HappyFool & LjL
[09:26] <mo> but cant write as a user
[09:27] <_jason> irv: you don't have .xscreensaver in $HOME?
[09:27] <LjL> Mo: is that a windows filesystem?
[09:27] <mo> yes fat
[09:27] <LjL> !ntfs
[09:27] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:27] <irv> _jason, not that I can see
[09:27] <LjL> (it does talk about fat as well)
[09:27] <_jason> irv: are you using breezy?
[09:27] <mo> yes
[09:27] <irv> yes
[09:27] <mo> i can read all but cant write
[09:28] <xcc> hello community!
[09:28] <mikemc> in a home network behind a router - how do i access/share stuff between systems?
[09:28] <_jason> irv: 'cat ~/.xscreensaver' confirms no such file?
[09:28] <iskywalker> pls help me, my cdrom sucks!
[09:28] <_jason> iskywalker: buy a better one?
[09:28] <iskywalker> too expensive
[09:28] <HappyFool> heh
[09:28] <iskywalker> i have network
[09:28] <LjL> mo: have you read that tutorial? i think it does tell you how to mount read/write
[09:28] <iskywalker> it should suffice
[09:28] <irv> _jason, sorry yes there is output for that
[09:29] <mo> which? that from nautilus?
[09:29] <irv> which is definitely some sort of screensaver conf output :I
[09:29] <_jason> irv: dpmsEnabled:, dpmsStandby:, dpmsSuspend:, dpmsOff: correspond to power management settings
[09:30] <LjL> Mo: you can't mount it read/write from nautilus. but you can mount it read/write for your user and *then* use nautilus or whatever
[09:30] <NCLife> im using gnome righ now, but i originaly downloaded and installed kubuntu so i have programs of both kde and gnome.
[09:30] <NCLife> and i just now noticed i cant open any kde programs
[09:30] <mo> yes yes of course
[09:30] <mo> the hd is mounted
[09:30] <Obiwan> sorry but an italian chat?
[09:30] <_jason> !it
[09:30] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:30] <NCLife> im gething this problem: kdeinit: Aborting. bind() failed: : Permission denied
[09:30] <NCLife> Could not bind to socket '/home/sinclair/.kde/socket-201/kdeinit__0'
[09:30] <NCLife> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Can't setup DCOP communication.
[09:31] <irv> _jason I can just edit dpmesEnabled False, and it will turn it off?
[09:31] <LjL> mo: yeah but mounting it with something like "sudo mount /blah /media/blah" won't be enough
[09:31] <saif> _jason, i am still here! :) ( 2 weeks ago i freaked out and wanted to leave linux all together! changed to ubuntu32 and everything is working normally! :)
[09:31] <irv> do i have to rsetart X to take effect
[09:31] <_jason> irv: let me verify by using the gui myself
[09:31] <LjL> mo: mount it the way that is explained in the tutorial
[09:31] <mo> yes....ive done
[09:31] <_jason> saif: great :)
[09:31] <mo> but i can only read
[09:32] <mo> is this a special option in fstab?
[09:32] <_jason> irv: yes, just change to False, restart should not be required afaik
[09:32] <mo> i have uid=bla
[09:32] <mo> uid=1000
[09:32] <mo> is this not enough?
[09:32] <irv> thx _jason
[09:33] <LjL> Mo: no, i think the key step is using the "user" option, and then mounting the partition as your own user instead of root
[09:33] <Gargoyle> if I create a symlink (as root) from a file inside a chroot jail to the normal filesystem, will the program in the jail be able to follow the symlink?
[09:33] <Blippe> !dosemu
[09:33] <ubotu> Blippe: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:33] <ubuntunoob> hey all
[09:33] <irv> I'm going to have one more go at getting into the advanced tab, if I dissappear it froze again
[09:33] <NCLife> could my problem be relationated with /etc/mtab perhaps?
[09:33] <mo> hmm yes this is ok i think....because in the options stand mo (me) is the owner
[09:34] <Ox0000> Anyone has an idea why my tv card won't output any picture? I've loaded the bttv module with the card=52 option because my tv card was not correctly recognized. tvtime-scanner won't find any channels... any idea?
[09:34] <HappyFool> Gargoyle: i don't think symlinks can get out a chroot, but i think hardlinks can
[09:34] <LjL> mo: ok i've just tried it
[09:34] <u|qos> is there a possibility to disable the output made by commands in a bash script?
[09:34] <_jason> u|qos: yep, just pipe it to /dev/null
[09:34] <LjL> mo: mounting with options "user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000", and then mounting *as root* (nevermind what i just said) will work
[09:34] <trappist> ./scriptname > /dev/null
[09:35] <Gargoyle> I had it the otherway, ie linking into the jail, but saslauthed keeps resetting the link during boot
[09:35] <trappist> _jason: redirect, actually
[09:35] <mo> ok i try...thx
[09:35] <_jason> trappist: aye, realized that when your wrote it :)
[09:35] <mo> ...ill come back ;)
[09:35] <LjL> u|qos: you might need "./blah 2>/dev/null" as well, if the program uses standard error as well as standard output
[09:35] <u|qos> _jason: how do i do this? or do u mean, to pipe every command in the file to /dev/null
[09:36] <_jason> u|qos: see trappist's example above, I should have said 'redirect' instead of 'pipe'
[09:36] <LjL> u|qos: just append ">/dev/null 2>/dev/null" at the end of the command, like trappist said
[09:36] <Gargoyle> hard linking directories is bad tho isn't it?
[09:36] <LjL> Gargoyle: i think you won't even be allowed to do that
[09:37] <ubuntunoob> hello, can anyone help a complete noob figure out why his wireless card isn't working right?
[09:37] <u|qos> i want to do this in the bash script ... not from external command ...
[09:37] <LjL> u|qos: bash scripts *are* "external commands"
[09:37] <Gargoyle> so I have to change saslauthd's satrtup... which I will need to remember to do each time I upgrade!
[09:37] <LjL> u|qos: a bash script is just a list of commands that you can normally type in a shell, like, well, bash
[09:37] <u|qos> so, i know what to do :) thx a lot ...
[09:38] <biloyp> anyone know of a app to burn dvd's?
[09:38] <Dreamglider> biloyp, k3b
[09:38] <Dreamglider> K3b is the best
[09:38] <biloyp> thankks
[09:38] <ubuntunoob> Anyone know any good sites for new linux users to learn basic stuff?
[09:38] <HappyFool> u|qos: you could put the whole set of commands in parentheses and redirect that --  (ls; cat /etc/passwd) &> /dev/null
[09:38] <LjL> u|qos: if you want a *series* of commands to not give any output, you could either append ">/dev/null" to every command, or put the commands in parentheses and add >/dev/null at the end
[09:39] <biloyp> where can I find k3b
[09:39] <HappyFool> ubuntunoob: tried help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[09:39] <LjL> u|qos: like    ( echo This is a line of output ; echo This is another line ; echo This is the third line ) >/dev/null
[09:39] <ubuntunoob> yah
[09:39] <biloyp> I fouhnd it
[09:39] <biloyp> thx
[09:39] <ScreaminIke> biloyp sudo apt-get install k3b
[09:39] <ScreaminIke> :)
[09:39] <ScreaminIke> yea
[09:39] <LjL> u|qos: and you don't actually need the semicolons, you can just open the parenthesis and then put commands on separate lines
[09:39] <_jason> ubuntunoob: what kind of basic stuff?
[09:39] <ubuntunoob> I'm trying to get my Centrino wireless 2200 b/g card to work corectly
[09:40] <biloyp> too cool
[09:40] <ubuntunoob> well, today marks my first day in linux, I was looking for just some general background knowledge
[09:40] <Ox0000> Anyone has an idea why my tv card won't output any picture? I've loaded the bttv module with the card=52 option because my tv card was not correctly recognized. tvtime-scanner won't find any channels... any idea?
[09:40] <ubuntunoob> but i've got ubuntu installed and working good, just don't have my wireless card working correctly
[09:41] <LjL> ubuntunoob: can't help with the wireless, but i'll have the bot give you some useful "general" pointers
[09:41] <mikebot> can someone help me recover a panel in ubuntu?
[09:41] <mo> yes
[09:41] <mo> right klick
[09:41] <mo> create new panel
[09:42] <p4rk> ey
[09:42] <mikebot> mo: the panel that shows the applications i have open
[09:42] <ubuntunoob> anyone else had problems with centrino wireless?
[09:42] <mikebot> mo: that one i deleted
[09:42] <p4rk> what would: linux acpi=off do?
[09:42] <LjL> ubuntunoob: also, have you checked....
[09:42] <p4rk> and what is acpi?
[09:42] <LjL> !wireless
[09:42] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:42] <mo> wich one? that with the applications?
[09:43] <LjL> p4rk: an interface to power management
[09:43] <LjL> p4rk: and to a few other things nobody understands
[09:43] <mo> just right click and create a new
[09:43] <p4rk> what?
[09:43] <mikebot> mo: when you minimize things, to get them back you click on it in this panel
[09:43] <mo> ah ok
[09:43] <mo> yes
[09:43] <LjL> p4rk: what about what?
[09:43] <mo> click on the panel witch the menue
[09:43] <mikebot> mo: i deleted that one, cause i thought they would minimize on the panel i have, but now they don't
[09:44] <mwl> !multiverse
[09:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:44] <p4rk> im installing ubuntu, but it takes like 15 mins to get to the language, where you select a language you want
[09:44] <mo> ah
[09:44] <mo> u will minimize the windows on the panel obove
[09:44] <LjL> p4rk: that sounds more like a bad CD or a bad reader than anything else, in my opinion
[09:44] <mikebot> i only want one panel though
[09:44] <LjL> p4rk: can you hear the cd trying and retrying to read?
[09:44] <mo> ok click right on the panel
[09:44] <p4rk> no, i just burned it
[09:44] <mo> an theres an option
[09:44] <irv> _jason, it crashed again
[09:45] <neo_> need help?
[09:45] <mo> where u can add to panel
[09:45] <HappyFool> !helpme
[09:45] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:45] <_jason> irv: try searching the forums to see if anyone had a similar problem ubuntuforums.org
[09:45] <LjL> p4rk: that you just burned it doesn't really matter - what matters is what linux is doing in the wait. is it reading the CD? or is it just standing still and silent? or what
[09:45] <ubuntunoob> do people in here with wireless use other connection managers, or just the one that's part of ubuntu nework settings?
[09:45] <irv> but this time before I even got to advanced, just in the screensaver tab , when I was messing baout with the config there
[09:45] <mikebot> mo: what option?
[09:45] <neo_> p4rk i'll be happy to help
[09:46] <mo> my breezy is german....urs?
[09:46] <mo> something like
[09:46] <mo> add to panel
[09:46] <irv> _jason, doing that, but laso installing the initail updates I've been prompted to that might solve the problem
[09:46] <HappyFool> mikebot: if you right-click on open area on the panel, you should get an 'add applet' option; one of the applets is a 'Task switcher' (or something similar) which is what you want, i think.
[09:46] <irv> what sort of updates are being installed
[09:46] <mikebot> mo: ah window list, okay, thanks
[09:46] <rancad17> Hi
[09:47] <teste> hi guys
[09:47] <mikebot> !evolution
[09:47] <_jason> irv: how would I know :P
[09:47] <ubotu> mikebot: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:47] <mo> no prob
[09:47] <mikebot> do you know about evolution mail?
[09:47] <Rob_Dude> Hi all
[09:47] <teste> somebdy can  i help about ubuntu?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> i hate hal
[09:47] <mo> a bit
[09:47] <_jason> teste: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[09:47] <mikebot> or actually mo, do you know how i can remove 'Places' from my panel?
[09:47] <teste> hi Rob
[09:47] <irv> I assume every new ubuntu user is asked to download updates on their first login?
[09:47] <mo> yes...in the same options
[09:47] <gnomefreak> mikebot: thats part of menu
[09:47] <ccghost> Does Ubuntu not add Firefox to their Apt Updates?  I'm still on 1.0.7 and don't see an update for 1.6
[09:48] <mo> menue i mean
[09:48] <LjL> !firefox1.5
[09:48] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:48] <Rob_Dude> I've installed mySQL, but I don't want it to be running except when I turn it on.  I know how to turn it on; but I don't know how to turn it off.  Can anyone help me with that?  Do I just 'kill' it, or is that a bad practice?
[09:48] <irv> ccghost, you don't want to know
[09:48] <HappyFool> we need a factoid explaining the update policy
[09:48] <teste> ok jason i undestood
[09:48] <mo> click on the place u want to remove
[09:48] <teste> understood
[09:48] <mikebot> i can remove it though, right?
[09:48] <gnomefreak> ccghost: if your looking for update to 1.5 there is no such update they are different you have to install them side by side
[09:48] <mo> -> right click of course
[09:48] <trappist> Rob_Dude: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop - to stop it from coming on at boot, sudo update-rc.d -f /etc/init.d/mysql remove
[09:48] <LjL> ccghost: standard breezy updates are only security fixes and bad-bug fixes, nothing more
[09:49] <_jason> ccghost: ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months, only security updates are provided.  Sometimes backports from the next version are made but too many other packages depend on firefox1.07 and would break without it
[09:49] <trappist> Rob_Dude: err, it's update-rc.d -f mysql remove
[09:49] <roico> i have two not-working ff extensions which i cant uninstall... all the menu is gray (when i right-click on them)... how can i uninstall them manually?? is there any extension that can do it for me?
[09:49] <boneill> hi, I'm trying to install the ATI gfx drivers, but I get ... module-assistant package doesn't exist
[09:49] <mo> yes
[09:49] <Rob_Dude> Thanks
[09:49] <irv> I'm hoping to get to the firefox problem some time next week
[09:50] <LjL> boneill: do you have Universe enabled?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> ff problem?
[09:50] <irv> starnge going back to 1.07 but no probelms yet
[09:50] <boneill> where would I do that? :)
[09:50] <LjL> boneill: does "apt-cache show module-assistant" find it?
[09:50] <LjL> !tell boneill about repos
[09:50] <mikebot> mo: under edit menus i only see applications there, not places or system
[09:50] <roico> i have two not-working ff extensions which i cant uninstall... all the menu is gray (when i right-click on them)... how can i uninstall them manually?? is there any extension that can do it for me?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> mikebot: i just said you cant get rid of it its part of menu
[09:50] <mikebot> gnomefreak: oh, okay
[09:50] <mikebot> gnomefreak: can i make it smaller any way?
[09:50] <mo> a sorry i think u mean a application
[09:51] <irv> hopefully the updates will cure my freezing
[09:51] <LjL> gnomefreak, mikebot: isn't there another menu that "collapses" those three in one single menu though, or do i remember wrongly?
[09:51] <gnomefreak> mikebot: you would have to get rid of menu and install a different one (not sure how you would do that)
[09:51] <mo> i dontn know what u mean whith places
[09:51] <claudio> i come back
[09:51] <roico> i have two not-working ff extensions which i cant uninstall... all the menu is gray (when i right-click on them)... how can i uninstall them manually?? is there any extension that can do it for me?
[09:51] <mikebot> dang, okay, thanks
[09:51] <mo> hmm no problem but now i must reboot
[09:51] <mo> ;)
[09:51] <gnomefreak> LjL: there are a ton of differnet menus you can install but i think you would have to get rid of gnome-menu
[09:52] <mikebot> as for evolution mail, i want to set it up to work for my school email and gmail
[09:52] <mikebot> that's possible, right?
[09:52] <mikebot> heh
[09:52] <LjL> gnomefreak: no, i'm thinking about an applet that is in the applets list by default in breezy
[09:52] <eskape> hello! only english speaking hear? (maybe i'm lost... it's my first time)
[09:52] <eri1> I don't think so
[09:52] <gnomefreak> mikebot: yes it is but my i suggest any other email client?
[09:52] <roico> i have two not-working ff extensions which i cant uninstall... all the menu is gray (when i right-click on them)... how can i uninstall them manually?? is there any extension that can do it for me?
[09:52] <LjL> gnomefreak: unless i'm getting confused with something similar that's in KDE
[09:52] <HappyFool> eskape: preferably. what is your language of choice?
[09:52] <mikebot> gnomefreak: evolution isn't good?
[09:52] <btdown> no evo sux.
[09:52] <irv> is vBulletin open source?
[09:52] <mikebot> oh
[09:53] <mikebot> what's a better email client?
[09:53] <LjL> mail
[09:53] <michael> wo ist der deusche sever???????
[09:53] <gnomefreak> mikebot: its ok not many people perfer it over mozilla or another one
[09:53] <btdown> thunderbird is good...and hasa spam filter that actually works.
[09:53] <claudio> where i get gdesklet?
[09:53] <gnomefreak> !de
[09:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:53] <LjL> michael: schrieb      /join #ubuntu-de
[09:53] <boneill> michael: #ubuntu-de
[09:53] <eskape> HappyFool: i'm french but i don't care
[09:53] <michael> kk
[09:53] <roico> i have two not-working ff extensions which i cant uninstall... all the menu is gray (when i right-click on them)... how can i uninstall them manually?? is there any extension that can do it for me?
[09:53] <mikebot> LjL: just mail?
[09:53] <mikebot> gnomefreak: does thunderbird come already installed?
[09:53] <HappyFool> eskape: looks like there's a fairly big #ubuntu-fr , if you're interested
[09:54] <LjL> mikebot: i was kidding, nobody sane would use mail these days :)
[09:54] <btdown> no you hafta install it...
[09:54] <mikebot> LjL: heh okay
[09:54] <LjL> though i'm sure there are a lot of insane folks around =)
[09:54] <mikebot> haha
[09:54] <Algol69> hi all. I managed to find opendchub using the advanced section in add applications and installed it. Then i looked up the executable and tried to double click it but nothing happened. the readme says all documentation is in the 'documantation' folder (that figures) but there i find 3 .gz files which i don't know how to open. Anybody have any hints for this noob?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> btdown: evos spamfilter works fine (spamassasine) but we are not here to debate what works when it works its all personal preff.
[09:54] <roico> i have two not-working ff extensions which i cant uninstall... all the menu is gray (when i right-click on them)... how can i uninstall them manually?? is there any extension that can do it for me?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> no mikebot you have to sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[09:54] <irv> what does "officially supported restricted copyright" mean?
[09:54] <LjL> Algol69: use "zless filename.gz" to read gzipped documentation
[09:55] <btdown> No...evo spamfilter does not work with spamassassin...Does work with breezy or dapper..
[09:55] <btdown> I've tried them both...On numeros machines.
[09:55] <gnomefreak> btdown: it worked fine for me in breezy
[09:55] <dejungman> hey folks
[09:55] <LjL> Algol69: as for the executable, i'm sure you have to run it from a shell, not from a GUI
[09:55] <LjL> Algol69: also, try typing "man opendchub" (or whatever the actual executable is called). note that the "man" command will give you a moderatly comprehensive manual for just about every command
[09:55] <btdown> Well if you can explain how you hacked it, I'd muchly appreciate it.
[09:55] <mikebot> gnomefreak: just thunderbird, not like -dev or anything?
[09:56] <roico> i have two not-working ff extensions which i cant uninstall... all the menu is gray (when i right-click on them)... how can i uninstall them manually?? is there any extension that can do it for me?
[09:56] <gnomefreak> mikebot: mozilla-thunderbird thats it
[09:56] <mikebot> gnomefreak: okay, thanks
[09:56] <gnomefreak> btdown: i set it up just like i set up spam assasin in sylpheed
[09:56] <Algol69> LjL, the first hint i get, the second...well, i'm a noob with linusx (started this weekend ;-).
[09:56] <eskape> HappyFool: ok thank you. i ve been fine to speak with you (even if it was short)  bye
[09:56] <Algol69> but at least this gives me st to work with, thx!
[09:57] <HappyFool> eskape: cool. have fun :) and au revoir
[09:57] <mikebot> gnomefreak: how do i know whether my school email is like pop3 and what the address is,e tc?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> roico: open up the extentions box from your tools menu in ff and when you see them highlight it and uninstall it
[09:57] <LjL> Algol69: do you know what a terminal/console/shell is?
[09:57] <btdown> gnomefreak lol, well that doesnt help much, but I'll at least go back an revisit it.
[09:57] <LjL> Algol69: you'll most definitely have to know to use something like a DC hub
[09:57] <gnomefreak> mikebot: dont have a clue about your school email gmail i know enough about tho :)
[09:57] <LjL> !tell Algol69 about cli
[09:57] <roico> gnomegreak: i cant, thats the problem... its gray, the button is inactive...
[09:57] <sukja05> ??
[09:57] <Algol69> terminal i know
[09:58] <sukja05> da wah this?
[09:58] <mikebot> gnomefreak: okay, thanks
[09:58] <gnomefreak> mikebot: yw
[09:58] <Rob_Dude> Can someone help me...I want to be able to access my linux box from work, so I can play around with it instead of...ya know...doing work :)
[09:58] <LjL> Algol69: they're near synonyms, in that when we say "type this at the terminal/console/shell" we mean the same thing
[09:58] <Rob_Dude> At work, we have a firewall that only allows outgoing connections from the web proxy server
[09:58] <gnomefreak> roico: i dont know of another way to delete them
[09:59] <Rob_Dude> So I can use IE to surf the net, but I can't ssh to my computer
[09:59] <gnomefreak> im sure you can find them in you ~/.mozilla file
[09:59] <roico> gnomefreak: i mean manually...
[09:59] <irv> heh, _jason it's the drivers for my video card
[09:59] <LjL> Algol69: generally, you should launch commands from a shell, unless you *know* that they have a graphical interface that will pop up as soon as the executable is launched
[09:59] <Algol69> well, i know dos from the old days, it's all coming back very s;lowly
[09:59] <LjL> Algol69: and even though i never used opendchub, i'm quite sure it's *not'
[09:59] <irv> haven't found a conflict answer that quickly in years
[09:59] <hackel> Anyone know of a simple program (using fam?) that will monitor a file or directory for changes and automatically upload (scp) said files to a remote location?
[09:59] <LjL> Algol69: and even though i never used opendchub, i'm quite sure it's *not* a GUI application
[09:59] <irv> ubuntu forums are cool
[09:59] <Rob_Dude> Can someone help me come up with a solution that would let me, at least, get ssh/telnet access to my box remotely
[09:59] <gnomefreak> Rob_Dude: do you have putty on the win box?
[09:59] <LjL> Rob_Dude: uh... "sudo aptitude install openssh-server"?
[10:00] <Rob_Dude> I have putty on the windows box, and I has SSH running on my PC at home
[10:00] <mikebot> gnomefreak: what are in the incoming and outgoing servers for gmail?
[10:00] <irv> god knows how i fix it though :)
[10:00] <LjL> Rob_Dude: what's the problem then?
[10:00] <Rob_Dude> But I can only get outside of the companies firewall if I'm using their web-proxy
[10:00] <Algol69> LjL, think your right. also read st about it being a daemon app...
[10:00] <gnomefreak> mikebot: outgoing is smtp.gmail.com incomming is pop.gmail.com
[10:00] <Rob_Dude> so I could hit a website hosted on my pc
[10:00] <Rob_Dude> using IE
[10:00] <mo> hey
[10:00] <LjL> Rob_Dude: oh. then you're in trouble :)
[10:00] <mo> bad news
[10:01] <gnomefreak> IE is evil
[10:01] <mo> ...it doesnt work
[10:01] <Rob_Dude> Is there a web application that would take input from the user and then pass it on to the server through an SSH connection?  I thought this would be a common problem people have
[10:01] <LjL> Algol69: it most definitely is. daemons are services, i.e. programs that are intended to be left open without interaction with the terminal user for a long time
[10:01] <ubuntu_> wow
[10:01] <LjL> Algol69: just about every server is a daemon
[10:01] <ubuntu_> check out my name
[10:02] <ubuntu_> wooooo
[10:02] <ubuntu_> asdf
[10:02] <Rob_Dude> ubuntu_:  What an odd name....what does it mean?
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: live cd?
[10:02] <ubuntu_> haha vmware
[10:02] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:02] <mikebot> thanks, brb
[10:02] <LjL> Rob_Dude: you're getting something backwards... if you're only allowed web acess through a proxy, you *won't* be able to use SSH *at all*
[10:02] <goyo> hi
[10:03] <goyo> is it possible to install Xgl on Ubuntu Breezy?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> goyo: no
[10:03] <goyo> :'(
[10:03] <LjL> Rob_Dude: the only way would be to have a fake web site that is actually a connection to your terminal.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> and it doesnt work in dapper all that well either
[10:03] <goyo> ok
[10:03] <goyo> I'll wait then
[10:03] <LjL> Rob_Dude: means roughly "humanity towards others"
[10:03] <dixiet> goyo, I tried but you have to make a massive update
[10:03] <Zoroaster> the way windows has an event viewer, does ubuntu have something similar?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> goyo: i dont expect the bugs to be worked out of it until the release after dapper
[10:03] <goyo> i tried to update yesterday to dapper
[10:03] <goyo> but everything failed
[10:04] <LjL> zeroshot: yeah, too inside the /var/log directory
[10:04] <goyo> so i reinstall breezy
[10:04] <gnomefreak> dixiet: you cant at all install it on breezy the libs wont carry it
[10:04] <LjL> Zoroaster: sorry, that was for you
[10:04] <goyo> ok
[10:04] <goyo> thanks
[10:04] <goyo> bye
[10:04] <Rob_Dude> I'm saying on the web server.  Like, with ASP.net I could establish a connection to my home computer; I don't know how SSH works progmatically, but I could do it with telnet and pass plain text though.  But I didn't want to have to code it myself, lol
[10:04] <zeroshot> hehe
[10:04] <Zoroaster> Ljl, thanks
[10:05] <LjL> Rob_Dude: how would you pass plain text via telnet, if all you have is an HTTP proxy?
[10:05] <Rob_Dude> So, from work, I'd use IE to visit a website that would pass a command like 'ls' to the webserver.  The webserver, is outside of the firewall, would take 'ls' and pass it to my computer via telnet or ssh, and the website would parse the result back to the website, that I'd view through IE
[10:05] <LjL> Zoroaster: err and of course by "too" i meant "look" ;)
[10:06] <Rob_Dude> Or is that just a hopeless idea that won't really work? ;)
[10:06] <LjL> Zoroaster: also, in KDE i have a "KSysGuard" program that, among other things, includes "easy" log access similar to the Windows event viewer. i suppose something similar exists for Gnome
[10:06] <gnomefreak> Rob_Dude: use firefox to browse you dont need telnet or ssh or ie to do it :(
[10:06] <CarlFK> is there a way to automate the jigdo-lite process?
[10:06] <morphineinduced> how do u turn off the synaptic package manager
[10:06] <LjL> Rob_Dude: oh, yeah, that would work
[10:06] <LjL> Rob_Dude: but then you don't really need ssh or telnet, do you?
[10:07] <Rob_Dude> LjL:  Do you know of any like 'pre-configured' web packages or something that would do that though?
[10:07] <LjL> Rob_Dude: i see no need for that kind of intermediate passage -- just have your own computer act as a web server, no?
[10:07] <LjL> Rob_Dude: no, i don't, and i even doubt you'll find any
[10:07] <Rob_Dude> Er, haha, that's an excellent point - you are right
[10:07] <Zoroaster> Ljl, ok, I will look into that
[10:07] <Rob_Dude> I'm getting confused because I haven't gotten apache installed yet, and the only web-programming I know is asp.net
[10:07] <irv> I realise now that the one thing i changed while moving from mepis to unbuntu was the video card
[10:07] <Rob_Dude> So I was thinking I'd use another web server, but yeah, you are right
[10:08] <Rob_Dude> Oh well, I dunno, I think it'll be more trouble than it's worth then :(
[10:08] <Zoroaster> does anyone know of an app for gnome for viewing the logs in a nicer interface?
[10:08] <irv> and it is anything video related that is crashing the box
[10:08] <beena> thunderbird ubotu
[10:08] <Zoroaster> do girls use linux?
[10:08] <beena> ubotu thunderbird
[10:08] <ubotu> thunderbird is, like, totally, a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[10:08] <irv> I suppose I should change the card back and reinstall
[10:08] <HappyFool> Zoroaster: no, the GPL forbids it
[10:08] <Rob_Dude> My Girlfriend uses Linux....
[10:08] <Rob_Dude> Oh wait, I don't have a girlfriend.
[10:08] <irv> or could i just cahnge the card
[10:08] <Rob_Dude> But, if I did....
[10:08] <irv> would it be detected?
[10:08] <btdown> !girls
[10:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, btdown
[10:08] <kbrooks> HappyFool, hey! thats wrong!
[10:08] <btdown> lol
[10:08] <[-DevinE-] > :)))))
[10:08] <LjL> Rob_Dude: well it would actually be quite simple to do with either apache or some simpler web server - but i'm not much into that kind of thing. still, all you need is a perl/php/whatever script that calls a system command (the system command being passed as a GET or POST parameter in the URL)
[10:09] <LjL> Rob_Dude: a security wormhole, though
[10:09] <drip6> does anyone know how to repair/restore RGB database?
[10:09] <jos> she would be working at ikea
[10:09] <kbrooks> HappyFool, the GPL would effectively be a contract...
[10:09] <Zoroaster> HappyFool, I kind of figured that
[10:09] <kbrooks> Zoroaster, he is teasing
[10:10] <HappyFool> who, me?
[10:10] <Stormx2> Hey all :)
[10:10] <HappyFool> ;)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> if hotplug controls usb what does hal control?
[10:10] <[-DevinE-] > !mu
[10:10] <ubotu> [-DevinE-] : Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:10] <kbrooks> Zoroaster, *less* girls use linux because they don't want to. :)
[10:10] <Zoroaster> kbrooks, the reason I asked, is because I see no female sounding names, and I've never heard of a girl using linux
[10:10] <beena> anyone help how to install tbird
[10:10] <gnomefreak> Zoroaster: we have a few that come in here
[10:10] <[-DevinE-] > 2-3 max ...
[10:10] <[-DevinE-] > :D
[10:10] <gnomefreak> beena: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[10:11] <gnomefreak> [-DevinE-] : like 20-30
[10:11] <kbrooks> Zoroaster, someone frequents #ruby-lang. her name is aria and she uses linux
[10:11] <HappyFool> Zoroaster: an ubuntu-women team was recently started to encourage women to use and contribute to ubuntu; there's been a debian-women (i think; not sure of the name) for a while
[10:11] <[-DevinE-] > wow coool :D
[10:12] <[-DevinE-] > btw can anybody help me .... i managed 2 get a game 2 work in wine and the games cant launch coz it tells me i dont have vid card installed but i do :((
[10:12] <Zoroaster> It's just that I was begining to get worried, first, no girls using linux, and then recently I've begun sleeping with my usb flash drive around my neck, I don't know what's happening to me
[10:13] <Rob_Dude> Zoroaster:  Don't fear the inevitable...embrace it.
[10:13] <Rob_Dude> :)
[10:13] <[-DevinE-] > 
[10:14] <[-DevinE-] >  lol
[10:14] <[-DevinE-] > hmm nice :D
[10:14] <irv> if i just change my video cards is that ok, from an ati radeon 9200 to some genric 2-d sis card, is there anything else I need to do with ubuntu? hopefully it will just recognise it and work!
[10:14] <[-DevinE-] > irv:.:  if u are here it was recognized :D
[10:15] <irv> er ... I'm here with a card that keeps crashing the machine [-DevinE-] 
[10:15] <[-DevinE-] > oh that could be a problem irv
[10:15] <[-DevinE-] > !video
[10:15] <ubotu> [-DevinE-] : No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:15] <[-DevinE-] > damn
[10:15] <Yokalosh> is there any support for the philips psc724 in alsa or equiv?
[10:16] <Yokalosh> (its a soundcard btw)
[10:16] <irv> oh well, I'll just give it a go, nothing ventured, nothing gained
[10:16] <HappyFool> irv: the command to reconfigure the X server is 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' -- might be needed if things break
[10:16] <HappyFool> oh well, too late
[10:16] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:16] <gnomefreak> he will find out the hard way
[10:17] <gnomefreak> like most of us did at one time
[10:18] <and> Just installed Ubuntu first time. Mouse did not work, and X resolution is wrong (builtin Via gfx). Any pointers for help?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> is hal removable?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> safely *
[10:18] <jdpj> not
[10:19] <bobbyd> hi
[10:19] <SirKillalot> anyone knowing kasbar?
[10:19] <bobbyd> does anyone know of a simple app to encode video files from a tv capture card?
[10:19] <efbie> Hello ! I just upgraded to dapper, and have some problems with networking, can someone help me ?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> efbie: /j #ubuntu+1
[10:19] <bobbyd> efbie, just ask your question, state the problem
[10:20] <jdpj> i am instalation vmplayer
[10:20] <MisterN> hi
[10:20] <efbie> networking doesn't work. I can ping google, but i can't go to the page with firefox
[10:20] <jdpj> alguem que fale o portugues nesta sala
[10:20] <mashuu> i'm trying to get ubuntu on a compaq v2000 cto (ati xpress 200m... i've read about problems) but it won't install.  i get the splash and boot: prompt, but if i start the default install, i get "clouds" that fade to a screen with distorted white bars.
[10:21] <jdpj> e que more em sao paulo
[10:21] <bobbyd> mashuu, what's the cpu/ram of that machine?
[10:21] <mashuu> i've done some checking around and i can't find anything specific about installing breezy on this model.  all i see are problems with the graphics
[10:21] <_jason> jdpj: os portugueses estao no #ubuntu-pt e #ubuntu-br
[10:21] <mashuu> i've got the turion
[10:21] <mashuu> 1.5gb ram
[10:21] <jdpj> que legal vou para l
[10:21] <jdpj> grato
[10:21] <bobbyd> mashuu, ati is crap under linux
[10:22] <[-DevinE-] > how cume #wine is emplty ??
[10:22] <[-DevinE-] > come*
[10:22] <mashuu> yes, so i'm finding out :(
[10:22] <bobbyd> mashuu, swap it for an nvidia card :/
[10:22] <mashuu> i can't really swap it.  it's a laptop
[10:22] <bobbyd> mashuu, you should be able to get 2d working though
[10:22] <iBalo> [-DevinE-] : try #winehq
[10:22] <Mastastealth> mashuu: the ubuntu install CD isnt working for u??
[10:22] <mashuu> i don't really care about 3d; i don't plan on gaming or anything of the sort
[10:22] <mashuu> Mastastealth: it -works-, it just won't start the installation routine
[10:23] <[-DevinE-] > 10x iBalo
[10:23] <mashuu> i'm guessing it's something with the video adapter; i just see cloudy graphics that fade in and then the screen distorts and there's no disk activity.
[10:23] <mashuu> after the boot: prompt, that is
[10:23] <bobbyd> mashuu, does the live cd work?
[10:23] <mashuu> hmm, i haven't tried it
[10:23] <mashuu> limited bandwidth, so it's tough for me to grab it
[10:23] <bobbyd> mashuu, that might give you an idea, oh
[10:23] <mashuu> how big is it?
[10:23] <bobbyd> mashuu, maybe try some other small livecd
[10:24] <bobbyd> mashuu, puppy linux is small, 50megs, you could try that to see if any driver works at all
[10:24] <mashuu> hmm
[10:24] <_ClouD_> hola?
[10:24] <[-DevinE-] > damn nobody is hellping
[10:24] <iBalo> !es
[10:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:24] <Roberto_Rodrigue> lo does anybody here know gcc options using specific version
[10:25] <[-DevinE-] > !sp
[10:25] <ubotu> [-DevinE-] : My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:25] <bobbyd> Roberto_Rodrigue, I don't understand, you want to know what options gcc was compiled with
[10:25] <bobbyd> ?
[10:27] <Odice> hi
[10:27] <_ClouD_> i don't listen mp3 in ubuntu, what's happen? any body can help me please?
[10:27] <Roberto_Rodrigue> I've installed gcc3xx and gcc4xx I want to use gcc3 version not the gcc4xx version what is the option for that
[10:27] <Odice> i press control+alt+f1 at boot to see the messages but they scroll so fast that i can't read it, is there a way to see it slowly?
[10:28] <_jason> !mp3
[10:28] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:28] <taurboy> bye all
[10:28] <[-DevinE-] > press Pause button
[10:28] <bobbyd> Roberto_Rodrigue, CC=gcc-3.0 CXX=gcc-3.0 make
[10:28] <bobbyd> Odice, dmesg
[10:28] <Roberto_Rodrigue> thnx
[10:29] <bobbyd> Roberto_Rodrigue, you can also pass that to a ./configure script
[10:29] <Odice> the message that i saw isn't in the dmesg, is there another way
[10:29] <_jason> _ClouD_: did you see what ubotu said?
[10:30] <Celeste> hi
[10:30] <Celeste> I installed a  j2re*  something package.  How can I find out the exact name please?
[10:31] <trappist> Celeste: dpkg -l | grel j2re
[10:31] <trappist> err
[10:31] <trappist> Celeste: dpkg -l | grep j2re
[10:31] <Roberto_Rodrigue> bobbyd: how can i directly pass the option in gcc
[10:31] <Celeste> thank you trappist
[10:32] <Celeste> well, the next question:  I have   "j2re1.4"  installed.   it works for all gecko based browsers,  but not for opera.   How can I enable Java for Opera please?
[10:32] <bobbyd> Roberto_Rodrigue, run the right version :) gcc-3.x myCoolCode.cpp -o cool
[10:32] <Roberto_Rodrigue> ok tnx. a lot
[10:34] <beena> how to import opml feed in thunderbird?
[10:34] <_jason> should I be able to use gcc anywhere I use g++?  I tried compiling helloworld.cc with gcc and it fails while it works fine with g++: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9557
[10:35] <trappist> _jason: no, one is for c code and one is for c++
[10:35] <felixfoertsch> Na wunderbar
[10:35] <felixfoertsch> funktioniert! :D
[10:35] <felixfoertsch> ibal: danke!
[10:35] <felixfoertsch> Ibalo: danke!
[10:35] <gnomefreak> _jason: g++ worked for me only on c++ and gcc only worked for me on c
[10:35] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: #ubuntu-de
[10:36] <_jason> trappist, gnomefreak: thanks
[10:36] <nao23> hi
[10:36] <gnomefreak> _jason: np
[10:36] <ubuntu_> hy
[10:36] <ubuntu_> _|_
[10:37] <beena> any feedreader for ubuntu?
[10:37] <theskunk> holy crap, i just got quake3 64 bit to run and compile and be happy :-D
[10:37] <theskunk> sorry, had to share
[10:37] <beena> feedreader ubotu
[10:38] <beena> ubotu feedreader
[10:38] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, beena
[10:38] <theskunk> beena, what is ubotu?
[10:38] <beena> any desktop aggregator for ubuntu?
[10:38] <theskunk> a dictionary?
[10:38] <beena> ubotu is a bot
[10:38] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, beena
[10:38] <theskunk> haha
[10:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell theskunk about yourself
[10:39] <theskunk> oooo
[10:39] <nao23> Hi, i have a question, everytime i try to login my computer freezes. I think it's my ATI video card and so i tried to install an fglrx driver, but i get the msg to update to breezy version (or something like that, on XP right now so might be not correct) anyway, can some1 tell me how to fix this, thanks
[10:40] <biloyp> anyone ever use k3b
[10:40] <beena> theskunk: ubotu is a bot
[10:40] <theskunk> thnks] 
[10:40] <beena> theskunk: robot
[10:40] <xnull> nao23: do you got c000llleeer?
[10:41] <beena> _jason: which rss reader u use?
[10:41] <maxz> espaoles
[10:42] <ubuntunoob> anyone else had problems when switching from wired to wireless networks?
[10:42] <ubuntunoob> is there some trip i don't know or an missing?
[10:42] <ubuntunoob> *trick
[10:42] <_jason> beena: pan
[10:42] <_jason> !es
[10:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:42] <humon> i want to enable direct rendering for my ATI Rage IIC in X. how do i do this?
[10:42] <beena> _jason: help me install it pls
[10:43] <_jason> beena: it's in the repos, just install 'pan'
[10:43] <beena> _jason: i ll try
[10:43] <nao23> xnull: well, i get the logon screen in color, and can switch to a prompt, so she recocnizes the fact that there is a monitor, but as soon as i login i get the msg that my home dir doesn't have correct rights and is being ignored and then she freezes.
[10:44] <ubuntunoob> OK, i'm a noob and I have a file of scripts that i downloaded in a .tar.gz format.  the scripts are supposed to install a VPN connection for me.  Where do i start?
[10:44] <budman> I have ubuntu with XGL installed. Are there any cool ways I can setup different wallpapers for the cube virtual desktops?
[10:44] <iBalo> felixfoertsch: check your PM-tab
[10:44] <felixfoertsch> iBalo, thanks!
[10:45] <BigDaddy> hey all, got a quick question about video codecs. Can anybody help? I just need to know how to install them.
[10:45] <gmoney> ubuntunoob:  open up the tar with the command: tar xvfz file.tar.gz
[10:45] <beena> _jason: i installed pan. how to open it now?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> how unsafe is hal to uninstall and reinstall?
[10:45] <_jason> beena: applications > internet
[10:46] <pm> how to make dhcpcd available at startup?
[10:46] <beena> it is not there
[10:46] <ubuntunoob> ok, so if the tar is on my desktop, I just open the terminal and type tar xvfz filename.tar.gz?
[10:46] <unperson> Printing question:  I have several printers setup in Gnome.  I have no problem printing to each of them using newer Gnome applications.  When I'm using older applications that just ask for a printing command (e.g. /usr/bin/lp) they print automatically to the default printer.  How do I get them to print to a non-default printer?
[10:46] <_jason> beena: killall gnome-panel
[10:46] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: you need to cd Desktop first
[10:47] <gmoney> ubuntunood - yes x = expand v=verbose f=file z=it's a gzipped file to uncompress
[10:47] <ithiel> does ndiswrapper come wiith the breezy cd, or must I download it?
[10:47] <budman> I have ubuntu with XGL installed. Are there any cool ways I can setup different wallpapers for the each cube virtual desktops?
[10:47] <beena> _jason: i see pan
[10:47] <luisi> ola
[10:47] <ACU> hi guys --- thanks god I made Ubuntu on a laptop have twin head ---- however the second monitor shows lower resolution than the primary --- interestingly in xorg.conf file the resolutions are similar --- any hint how to make the second monitor same resolution (the second monitor is a LCD
[10:47] <gnomefreak> budman: try #xgl-ubuntu  they might be able to help you with that
[10:48] <ithiel> _jason, does ndiswrapper come with the breezy CD, or must I download it?
[10:48] <_jason> ithiel: I vbelieve you need to install it
[10:48] <_jason> !ndiswrapper
[10:48] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[10:49] <ubuntunoob> gnomefreak: ok, i ran the command, but nothing installed
[10:49] <unperson> In the printer setup, I have a network unix printer setup.  In the properties window connection tab I have the queue set as "gr", so I figured I could print to it with /usr/bin/lp -P gr, but no luck.
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: cd Desktop wasnt gonna install anything just get you to desktop than run the xvfz command and it will unpack whatever is in it
[10:50] <ACU> any hint what chat room might help me made second monior show similar resolution with primary --- twin head configuration in Dell Inspiron
[10:51] <ubuntunoob> what does the xzvf command do?
[10:51] <bobbe> gotta admit
[10:51] <bobbe> impressive
[10:51] <bobbe> the smoothest install I ever did of a distro
[10:51] <iBalo> !enter
[10:51] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[10:51] <mivecz> how  i instal Fvwm desktop
[10:51] <mashuu> lucky :(
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: its extracts the tar
[10:51] <mivecz> ?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: tar xfvz file.tar.gz
[10:52] <gmoney> ubuntunood - "tar" is the command the "xvfz" are the options to tar:  x = expand v=verbose f=file z=it's a gzipped file to uncompress
[10:52] <beena> _jason: how to import a opml file to pan?
[10:52] <bobbe> mashuu: you mean me?
[10:52] <_jason> beena: I don't know what that is
[10:52] <mashuu> yes
[10:52] <unperson> gnomefreak:  I think f should come last for it to work properly.  At least on some versions.
[10:52] <gnomefreak> gmoney: its easier to say man tar :(
[10:52] <bobbe> why?
[10:52] <bobbe> what happened to your installation?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> unperson: it never mattered to me
[10:52] <mashuu> i cannot install it on my laptop and no one seems to know why
[10:52] <gnomefreak> it always worked that way for me
[10:52] <beena> _jason: u said u use pan as ur newsreader
[10:53] <bobbe> heaiuheauheaiu
[10:53] <unperson> gnomefreak:  It may be only older versions or it may be a UNIX style vs. BSD style option thing.
[10:53] <_jason> beena: what's an opml file?
[10:53] <bobbe> yeah, mine is a desktop. Don't have a laptop, can't have the faintest idea your prob is
[10:53] <mashuu> yes
[10:53] <beena> _jason: how to add a feed to pan?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> unperson: i dont remember parameters making a difference in the order
[10:53] <mashuu> most people just give me the line "ati suxx" which .... isn't helpful at all
[10:53] <ubuntunoob> what about tar xzvf, what does that do?
[10:53] <mashuu> and is miles away from resolving my problem
[10:54] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: it extracts it
[10:54] <_jason> beena: hrmm I just scrolled up and saw you said rss :)  I just saw 'newsreader', I use liferea for rss
[10:54] <bobbe> heaiuheaiuheaiuheauiheauihaeuh
[10:54] <ubuntunoob> i thought you said xfvz extracts it
[10:54] <bobbe> mashuu: is ati your video board?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ubuntunoob about tar
[10:54] <mashuu> yes
[10:54] <beena> _jason: how to install liferea
[10:54] <bobbe> (sorry for the brazilian lol there. just old habit)
[10:54] <mashuu> not really by choice
[10:54] <_jason> beena: same way as pan
[10:54] <gmoney> ubuntunoob: type "man tar"  for more info (thanks gnomefreak)
[10:55] <mashuu> i have the ati xpress 200m chipset and a turion
[10:55] <mashuu> relatively nice notebook
[10:55] <bobbe> mashuu: so is mine. It automatically detected it and ran on my monitor's max resolution without like a single type of my finger
[10:55] <bobbe> mashuu: I got a not so cool one, x300se
[10:55] <ubuntunoob> are tar i see
[10:55] <bobbe> but it's a pci-e
[10:55] <bobbe> relatively new
[10:55] <mashuu> but all of the hardware zealots are just like U SHULD NOT USE ATI IT SUXX W/ LINUX Lo!L
[10:55] <ubuntunoob> well i still cant get these damn files to run
[10:55] <ubuntunoob> I get them extracted on my desktop
[10:55] <mashuu> i'm sure i could get it up and running on my desktop without a snag
[10:55] <bobbe> mashuu: did you try getting the ati driver and installing it to see what happens?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: tar is the command the letters are parameters and the file is there because you need something to unpack
[10:56] <ubuntunoob> and I'm navigated to the desktop in the terminal
[10:56] <bobbe> maybe it's the driver
[10:56] <bobbe> or your xorg.conf
[10:56] <bobbe> is it xorg.conf on ubuntu?
[10:56] <bobbe> I don't even know what your prob is lol
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: what is this for?
[10:56] <mashuu> it will not run the install routine at all
[10:56] <bobbe> what happens?
[10:56] <mashuu> right after the boot: prompt i get a screen with "clouds" that fades in and then distorts
[10:56] <mashuu> and it sits there with no disk activity
[10:56] <ubuntunoob> the files are supposed to be scripts to install a VPN connection for me
[10:56] <dRopie> huch, Drin, das war ja einfach, nAbend zusammen
[10:57] <mashuu> all of the 200m problems i read about seem to reference fixing it after the distro is installed
[10:57] <ompaul> !de
[10:57] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:57] <mashuu> which, needless to say, doesn't help me whatsoever
[10:57] <ubuntunoob> i have to have it to connect to my work network
[10:57] <dRopie> thanx
[10:57] <ompaul> dRopie, no problem
[10:57] <unperson> No clues on my printing issue then?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: i would read the README or INSTALL files or both after you unpack it
[10:59] <ubuntunoob> the readme tells me to run the command "tar xzvf filename.x.tgz"
[10:59] <ubuntunoob> but that does nothing
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ubuntunoob: what else does it say?
[10:59] <ubuntunoob> gotta go
[10:59] <ubuntunoob> thanks for your help so far
[11:00] <mashuu> so, yeah :( there you go
[11:00] <ompaul> !ati
[11:00] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:00] <gnomefreak> why do people insist on starting at a high level of stuff :(
[11:01] <pianoboy3333> Whe here uses a DVI cable to hook up thier monitor?
[11:01] <pianoboy3333> *Who
[11:01] <ompaul> mashuu, have you looked at that ati picture
[11:01] <bad_iNFO> ok bbye
[11:01] <GTX> me pianoboy3333
[11:01] <ompaul> mashuu, url
[11:01] <pianoboy3333> GTX: did you need some special driver or something, my boot screen is distorted... but once I'm in ubuntu it's fine
[11:02] <biovore> pianoboy3333: My DVI works just fine..  what graphics card you have?
[11:02] <mashuu> no, i'm saying that i can't even get into the installer :(
[11:02] <pianoboy3333> biovore: .......ATI X600 which I can't get the 3D to work on...
[11:03] <biovore> !ati
[11:03] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:03] <biovore> they that
[11:03] <biovore> (try)
[11:03] <pianoboy3333> biovore: I use dapper--none of those have worked for me
[11:03] <pianoboy3333> biovore: no one on the dapper channel can help
[11:03] <biovore> pianoboy3333: dapper is still in development, expect weird stuff
[11:03] <yalu> I am a Debian user and I would like to know if there are any packages in Ubuntu which are called the same as in Debian, but are actually packaged differently or built on ubuntu systems? I'm planning an Ubuntu install and I would like to share /var/cache/apt/archives like I do now with my Debian machines
[11:03] <yalu> but I want to avoid making a mess
[11:03] <pianoboy3333> biovore: I did get it working one day, but I lost that great page...
[11:03] <biovore> yalu: alot of the packages on ubuntu are frmo debian
[11:04] <GTX> pianoboy3333, not that im aware of
[11:04] <GTX> pianoboy3333, dapper isnt supported here
[11:04] <pianoboy3333> GTX: I know, but I had the same problem in breezy
[11:04] <GTX> pianoboy3333, did it happen on windows?
[11:04] <yalu> biovore: yes but if they are ubuntu-specific, do they have something different in the file names?
[11:04] <siriusnova> hi guys, im running Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T30 that has a Radeon 7500 video card, how do i enable dri?
[11:04] <siriusnova> as ati's driver's dont support this card :(
[11:05] <siriusnova> !ubotu dri
[11:05] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, siriusnova
[11:05] <pianoboy3333> GTX: nooooooo...... windoze is fine.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> yalu: its very unsfae to mix packages
[11:05] <GTX> dunno then pianoboy3333 I have no problems here, but my Screen cost me 2k Sony.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> !dri
[11:05] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[11:06] <gnomefreak> GTX: did you bump your head?
[11:06] <yalu> gnomefreak: I have been mixing the three Debian branches for years. Despite what people say, I never had a single problem.
[11:06] <GTX> nope? :D
[11:06] <bobbe> mashuu: do you get to see the first text screen?
[11:06] <mashuu> bobbe: yes, the boot: prompt
[11:06] <mashuu> and the logo
[11:06] <gnomefreak> 2k for a monitor :( my whole computer cost me less that half that
[11:06] <mashuu> beyond that ... well, there is no beyond that :(
[11:06] <biovore> yalu: there simular..  just slight differances in what they call there dependencys in apt.  (some packages are also at a different patch level and are linked against differnt versions of libs)
[11:06] <biloyp> I installed k3b to rip/burn dvd's but, I need to install libdvdcss-1.2.9; it comes as a tar.gz file. how to I install it so k3b uses it
[11:07] <gnomefreak> pssssst biovore its the same in debian they use the same pm
[11:07] <nickrud> biloyp: you should get a package (much simpler), see the ubotu link below
[11:07] <nickrud> !libdvdcss
[11:07] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:07] <gnomefreak> !libdvdcss
[11:07] <siriusnova> anyone want to help me with  my radeon 7500?
[11:08] <pianoboy3333> anyone want to help me with my RADEON X600? (Dapper)
[11:08] <biloyp> thx nick
[11:08] <farous> siriusnova: just state your specific question
[11:08] <pianoboy3333> Who here knows about manually editing xorg.conf?
[11:08] <siriusnova> i already did
[11:08] <mashuu> it's ati day
[11:08] <siriusnova> hi guys, im running Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T30 that has a Radeon 7500 video card, how do i enable dri?
[11:08] <zezu> pianoboy3333, i'd suggest removing it and throwing it away
[11:08] <zezu> i'd suggest removing all ati cards and smashing them
[11:08] <mashuu> yes, those are the responses that are completely worthless
[11:08] <gnomefreak> pianoboy3333: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:08] <mashuu> thanks!
[11:08] <zezu> it'll save you a headache
[11:08] <pianoboy3333> zezu: I wish...
[11:08] <farous> !tell siriusnova about ati
[11:09] <pianoboy3333> gnomefreak: with fglrx driver? or ati?
[11:09] <zezu> ati fglrx never works here, as a matter of fact i'm about to recompile the kernel w/o agpgart to try to get my 9800 pro to work
[11:09] <gnomefreak> pianoboy3333: i would go with the ati but have you installed any other drivers yet?
[11:09] <farous> siriusnova: sorry can you remind me what is dri
[11:09] <zezu> direct rendering interface
[11:09] <gnomefreak> zezu: 3d?
[11:09] <pianoboy3333> gnomefreak: fglrx, the ones in the repositories
[11:09] <farous> zezu: fglrx working perfectly here
[11:10] <pianoboy3333> Damn.... I had it working in breezy..
[11:10] <ricardo_> how can i use kde desktop in ubuntu?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> pianoboy3333: than set it to fglrx if that doesnt work put it on ati see if that works
[11:10] <zezu> gnomefreak, yes
[11:10] <zezu> farous, , what hardware ?
[11:10] <Seveas> ricardo_, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:10] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:10] <pianoboy3333> gnomefreak: ok...
[11:10] <pianoboy3333> brb
[11:10] <farous> zezu: t42 with ati 9600 running breezy
[11:10] <zezu> i've tried getting fglrx to work so many  times
[11:10] <gnomefreak> Seveas: thank god your here  (can i safely remove hal and reinstall it?
[11:11] <zezu> farous, yes its 9700+ that has the problems
[11:11] <farous> zezu: follow the howto
[11:11] <zezu> farous, the howto doesn't help shit
[11:11] <munzir> Hi, I configured syaptic network section by filling a proxy server. Which configuration file store this piece of info please?
[11:11] <zezu> i've done a lot more than the howto would require
[11:11] <fisne> ey
[11:11] <zezu> although the latest fglrx from ati gets a different error now
[11:11] <darthv> ji
[11:12] <fisne> what's quiet splash mean?
[11:12] <farous> zezu: i know you are frustrated. I was till it worked here. Installing the ati drivers using the howto. Then editing fstab for it to work proparly
[11:12] <biovore> fisne: it dosn't show the fancy graphics
[11:12] <nickrud> fishse: it reduces output on the screen during boot, and adds the pretty one
[11:12] <zezu> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[11:12] <zezu> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999)
[11:12] <fisne> i just installed ubuntu, and it wont boot
[11:12] <zezu> farous, i'm telling you, i've done it, it doesn't work
[11:12] <Seveas> gnomefreak, hmm, that's quite tricky...
[11:13] <fisne> should i do: acpi=off or acpi=on? im using a desktop
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Seveas: i figured as much
[11:13] <xukun> How can I see if 3D acceleration is working?
[11:13] <darth_v> r
[11:13] <Seveas> gnomefreak, It *may* work but you should absolutely install it immediately afterwards and don't mess with hardware (and don't even think about rebooting
[11:13] <zezu> xukun, glxgears
[11:13] <nickrud> xukun: glxinfo | grep direct
[11:13] <zezu> or that
[11:13] <ricardo_> thanks gnomefreak and Seveas
[11:13] <farous> xukun: glxinfo if you use direct rendering is yes you are ok
[11:13] <zezu> but if glxgears goes 4fps then its not working
[11:13] <BigDaddy> anyone here have the 64bit edition?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Seveas: ok ill try it and pray it works if not ill be re-installing i guess lol
[11:14] <ech0wave> hola torc
[11:14] <farous> !es
[11:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Seveas: sudo apt-get remove --reinstall hal    will that work?
[11:14] <Seveas> install --reinstall
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[11:15] <xukun> thaks all that looks good
[11:15] <gnomefreak> brb ill let you know :)
[11:15] <bobbe> ok
[11:15] <Seveas> good luck 
[11:15] <bobbe> just read something weird
[11:15] <bobbe> let me ask you guys a quick question, totally off-topi
[11:15] <bobbe> *topc
[11:15] <bobbe> *topic (damn!)
[11:15] <Seveas> bobbe, #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:15] <BigDaddy> anyone at all, AMD64bit with the 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[11:15] <bobbe> geez
[11:15] <ricardo_> i use conio.h in windows to program in c, wich library is similar in linux?
[11:15] <bobbe> you have a chan just for that lol
[11:15] <bobbe> k
[11:16] <Seveas> ricardo_, what does conio.h contain?
[11:16] <nickrud> ricardo_: you can search for that file on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:16] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm maybe killall gnome-panel doesnt restart hal
[11:16] <[t0rc] > !tell ech0wave about ntfs
[11:16] <gnomefreak> lol :(
[11:17] <Seveas> gnomefreak, hal has very little to do with the gnome panel...
[11:17] <Yango> how do you install utf-8 locales on 5.10?
[11:17] <Yango> I can't seem to find them
[11:17] <gnomefreak> ah well i got the error during gnome loading
[11:17] <gnomefreak> ill try reboot
[11:17] <Seveas> Yango, Ubuntu is UTF-8 by default 
[11:17] <[t0rc] > !tell ech0wave about windows
[11:17] <zezu> where is a good tutorial for compiling a kernel ?
[11:17] <Seveas> Yango, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:17] <Seveas> [t0rc] , stop it...
[11:17] <ricardo_> Seveas: contain getch(), gotoxy();
[11:17] <[t0rc] > Seveas: it's okay. I'm helping him with the bot. promise. i'm on the phone with him.
[11:18] <Yango> then why all my apps show stuff like  I Regin
[11:18] <Seveas> [t0rc] , /msg ubotu
[11:18] <biloyp> nickrud: I found and downloaded the libdvdcss as adeb package. How do I install it now?
[11:18] <fisne> hey
[11:18] <nickrud> [t0rc] : you can open a dialog window with ubotu
[11:18] <fisne> how do you enable the X or KDE on ubuntu?
[11:18] <nickrud> Bilange: sudo dpkg -i <file>
[11:18] <[t0rc] > alright; srry bout the spam.
[11:18] <coz> /etc/init.d/kde start
[11:18] <mashuu> well, hmm
[11:18] <mashuu> i am running puppy linux with no problem
[11:18] <Seveas> ricardo_, ah, console based "gui" right?
[11:19] <mivecz> how  i instal Fvwm desktop
[11:19] <Seveas> mivecz, apt-get install fvwm
[11:19] <mashuu> using xorg x server as well
[11:19] <fisne> man
[11:19] <fisne> what's with this error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:19] <fisne> ?
[11:20] <Seveas> fisne, sounds like a broken initrd
[11:20] <coz> I hae impi linux installed and it is defaulting ot ipv6 and the router doesn't support that yet, linksys, ifconfig says it is ipv6 in ipv4 so it should handle it but doesn't andy solutions to inititate the ipv4
[11:20] <slvmchn> where is liblame.so
[11:20] <iBalo> !easysource
[11:20] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:20] <mivecz> seveas  can i msg you priv
[11:20] <Seveas> slvmchn, liblame0
[11:20] <Seveas> mivecz, yes
[11:20] <fisne> it says this too: ALERT! /dev/hdc5 does not exists. Dropping to a shell!
[11:20] <biovore> slvmchn: apt-get install liblame0 (I think)
[11:21] <Seveas> fishse, definitely a broken initrd
[11:21] <can-o-worms> how do you print unixtime?
[11:21] <ricardo_> no exactly, for example it allow me to position text under console and to make frames.. other function it's to hold until the user press a key..
[11:21] <fisne> how do you fix it?
[11:21] <fisne> i just installed ubuntu, now it wont boot
[11:21] <biovore> can-o-worms: man date
[11:21] <slvmchn> where's the file to edit the repos
[11:22] <biovore> slvmchn: /etc/apt/source/list I think
[11:22] <Seveas> ricardo_, right, you're looking for ncurses under linux 
[11:22] <nickrud> slvmchn: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <lkcore> slvmchn, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:22] <Seveas> fisne, which version?
[11:22] <fisne> the latest
[11:22] <fisne> kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[11:22] <Seveas> interesting...
[11:23] <pianoboy3333> My friend uses a Mac, and wants gaim, but it's not possible since, I hear, GTK hasn't been ported to Macs, he wants to know when it will be.
[11:23] <fisne> yeah
[11:23] <coz> ifconfig reveal ipv6-in-ipv4 but system defaults only to ipv6 any solutions to force or impliment ipv4
[11:23] <mashuu> adium
[11:23] <Seveas> fisne, is /dev/sda5 a USB disk?
[11:23] <farous> fisne: i had this prob once turned out to be bad installation cd. just changed it and everything worked well
[11:23] <Seveas> ehm
[11:23] <Seveas> !lart Seveas
[11:23] <Seveas> I should read better
[11:23] <fisne> there's no /dev/sda5
[11:23] <biloyp> can I get help in installing a .deb pack downloaded from http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/all/
[11:24] <can-o-worms> biovore: that helped, it gives me utc time anyway... can you get it to give you utc time +9 ?
[11:24] <Seveas> biloyp, what's the prob?
[11:24] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: Your friend can use Ubuntu on his Mac. Give him a LiveCD.
[11:24] <fisne> root is set to /dev/hdc5
[11:24] <biovore> can-o-worms: maybe.
[11:24] <Seveas> fisne, did you change hardware layout after installing? Is this the reboot during install or afterwards?
[11:24] <biloyp> i need libdvdcss so I can rip/burn dvd with k3b
[11:24] <pianoboy3333> cafuego: It's a family computer... and the LiveCD would run horribly slow, It's really really old...
[11:25] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: Okay, hdd-install then ;-)
[11:25] <biloyp> I downloaded the libdvcss.deb from http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/all/
[11:25] <ubuntoy> gumby: yeah
[11:25] <ricardo_> Seveas: what can i do? do you know other library?
[11:25] <biloyp> how do I install it
[11:25] <cafuego> biloyp: Opne a terminal, run 'sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss.deb'
[11:25] <fisne> what you think ?
[11:25] <bimberi> !deb
[11:25] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[11:25] <Seveas> ricardo_, you don't like ncurses?
[11:25] <farous> biloyp: sudo dpkg -i <package name>
[11:25] <biloyp> ok thx
[11:25] <cafuego> biloyp: it'd be betetr to add the repository lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and use the normal installation tools, though.
[11:26] <gumby> how does one change the priority inside sources.list so it will honor -> file:/ first?
[11:26] <biovore> can-o-worms: look at %z on date.. you can specify
[11:26] <biloyp> cafuego: ok let me try that
[11:26] <Eshestun> is there a place i can go to ask a noobie question... im a new linux user ^)^
[11:26] <gumby> anyone ?
[11:26] <IdleOne> Eshestun:  your there ()
[11:26] <Seveas> gumby, sources.list has no priority, it'll always pick the highest available version
[11:26] <nickrud> gumby: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[11:26] <Seveas> unless you use apt pinning on versions of packages
[11:27] <gumby> nickrud: thanks :D
[11:27] <Eshestun> arg... i dont even know how to pm people here lol
[11:27] <bimberi> Eshestun: right here if you're using ubuntu :), otherwise there's ##linux
[11:27] <nickrud> gumby: not simple, but useful
[11:27] <pianoboy3333> No me gusta ATI...
[11:27] <IdleOne> !tell Eshestun  about register
[11:27] <ech0wave> ??? does anyone have any clue how to run source in linux ???
[11:27] <pm> i know how to pm :)
[11:27] <pianoboy3333> !registry
[11:27] <ubotu> pianoboy3333: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:27] <zezu> how to run source ?
[11:27] <pianoboy3333> lol
[11:27] <fisne> Seveas?
[11:28] <zezu> you don't run source unless your a retard and you print it out and run with it into a wall
[11:28] <Seveas> fisne, did you change hardware layout after installing? Is this the reboot during install or afterwards?
[11:28] <mashuu> i think he means like half life source or something :(
[11:28] <ricardo_> what is it? excuse but i can't understand you? please explain me.
[11:28] <fisne> yeah
[11:28] <pianoboy3333> It'd be funny if ubotu said when you put in 'registry' "The stupid windows thing nobody likes."
[11:28] <fisne> made me to reboot
[11:28] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, gconf is a registry too
[11:28] <mashuu> pianoboy3333 yeah lol microsoft is EVAL EMPIRE $$$ $hehahheaheha$$$
[11:29] <Seveas> mashuu, no MS bashing in here please
[11:29] <mashuu> Seveas: hi, learn to detect sarcasm
[11:29] <Seveas> fisne, the installer?
[11:29] <pianoboy3333> Seveas, oh....... then how come people don't plant viruses there?
[11:29] <ech0wave> yeah how do u run source
[11:29] <ailean> double click on it
[11:29] <Eshestun> can someone tell me the command to navigate to a folder in the terminal promt.... for instance  sys/usr/bin ?
[11:30] <Seveas> Eshestun, cd
[11:30] <fisne> after i install it, it asked me to reboot
[11:30] <Eshestun> i tried... i think i screwd up syntax
[11:30] <ricardo_> Seveas: what is it? excuse but i can't understand you? please explain me.
[11:30] <IdleOne> ech0wave:  you dont run source code you compile it...what source did you want to compile?
[11:30] <Seveas> fisne, in the GUI, with a little popup notification?
[11:30] <biovore> ech0wave: source? you mean source code?
[11:30] <mashuu> jesus
[11:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell Eshestun about cli
[11:30] <mashuu> i just said it ^^
[11:30] <gumby> anyway.. thanks for the help :D i'll go read that now .. bye bye
[11:30] <[t0rc] > IdleOne: he means, CounterStrike: Source. lol
[11:30] <mashuu> i think he's talking about source, as in counterstrike source.
[11:30] <ech0wave> oh lol ha not code def. meant steam as in pwning terrorists
[11:30] <Eshestun> soo it would be like /cd sys/usr/bin   ?
[11:30] <Seveas>  <ricardo_> i use conio.h in windows to program in c, wich library is similar in linux?
[11:31] <IdleOne> [t0rc] :  oh wow
[11:31] <Seveas> ricardo_, ncurses is a library that does just that
[11:31] <lkcore> Eshestun,  "cd /sys/usr/bin"
[11:31] <biovore> ech0wave: works like crap under windows emulation.. stick with MS for CSS
[11:31] <Eshestun> ty ^_^ ill stick to wiki after this :P
[11:31] <ech0wave> ms blows!
[11:31] <Seveas> ech0wave, no MS bashing in here please
[11:31] <mashuu> BILLY GATE$ DONE FOOLED U AGAIN Lolol
[11:31] <pianoboy3333> lol
[11:31] <IdleOne> caps off please
[11:32] <biovore> ech0wave: get valve to stop making there code so crappfully.. and they might be able to make a linux port..
[11:32] <[t0rc] > that'll be the day
[11:32] <ech0wave> lol i will get right on that
[11:32] <mashuu_> uh
[11:33] <Tarantulafudge> does anyone know how I can increase doom performance with my ati card?
[11:33] <ricardo_> how can i explore it and where can i find the libraries in linux, to program in c/c++?
[11:34] <biovore> Tarantulafudge: doom.. as in the origonal?
[11:34] <Tarantulafudge> biovore, no doom3
[11:34] <fisne> Seveas, i aint get on the GUI yet
[11:34] <fisne> cant even boot to it
[11:34] <ricardo_>  Seveas: how can i explore it and where can i find the libraries in linux, to program in c/c++?
[11:34] <Seveas> ricardo_, apt-get install manpages-dev - learn to love the manpages 
[11:34] <biovore> Tarantulafudge: ah..  works fine on linux with my fx5900 here..
[11:34] <Tarantulafudge> biovore, yea but thats nvidia, ati sucks on linux
[11:34] <biovore> Tarantulafudge: bingo.. 10 points for Tarantulafudge
[11:34] <biovore> :-P
[11:35] <Tarantulafudge> lol
[11:35] <farous> anyone might know why xman does not work anymore on my pc?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> is there a hal dianosis site? to help me figure this out?
[11:35] <biovore> Frankly the nvidia drivers arn't much better.. hack job at best
[11:36] <Boss666> Hi @ all! Anyone use a M$ intelli mouse explorer and knows how to configure the buttons?
[11:37] <Odice> hi
[11:37] <Seveas> IdleOne, that person continued the trash talk in private chat - perfect way to be banned....
[11:37] <Odice> where are located the scripts of the "Basic Networking" that shows up on the booting?
[11:37] <Seveas> Odice, /etc/init.d/
[11:37] <Odice> thanks
[11:37] <IdleOne> Seveas:  I wasnt questioning your judgement I agree with you...ubuntu is about sharing and learning even if it means we have to share with microsoft heh
[11:38] <toyfactory> good evening, anyone familiar with gcalctool?
[11:38] <fisne> that's why i hate linux man, noone cant help me with my problem
[11:38] <boneill> hello again ;)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: thats the thing this is a help channel for ubuntu (windows should be mentioned very lightly (we dont hate ms we just prefer linux) :)
[11:39] <Seveas> fisne, try installing again. If it fails: file a bug at http://launchpad.net/malone
[11:39] <xinix> is there any way to set a default screen that all apps should load on?  I'm running a multi head setup with a tv as a second monitor for mythtv.  Often apps load on the tv screen and I don't want them to.  All I want on the tv is mythtv.
[11:39] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  indeed
[11:39] <boneill> I'm trying to get the ati gfx drivers to work (using the package fglrx), it seems to install fine but fglrxinfo says my opengl vendor is still mesa
[11:39] <Seveas> boneill, did you change xorg.conf yet?
[11:39] <boneill> yeah
[11:39] <fisne> should i install the image?
[11:39] <delmar> Anyone here run ubuntu with cedega for their games.. does it work ok?
[11:40] <cafuego> delmar: Depends on the games
[11:40] <boneill> Seveas, i used fglrxconfig to do it
[11:40] <Evixion> I'm new to Ubuntu and I want to install it as my primary OS. I would like to know if there are any drivers for my wireless card (I'm on a laptop). I looked on the Wiki but didn't see anything that applied to me.
[11:40] <gnomefreak> delmar: its not cheap (free)
[11:40] <fisne> i get errors after loading the modules
[11:40] <Seveas> boneill, and you restarted X afterwards?
[11:40] <delmar> gnomefreak, how much?
[11:40] <farous> boneill: where did you install the fglrx driver from
[11:40] <chavo> delmar, I have used it for some games
[11:40] <Boss666> fisne maybe u can save a lot of ur settings with a live-CD
[11:40] <gnomefreak> delmar: its like 15 usd but not sure if thats a month or a one time payment
[11:40] <boneill> farous, synaptic package manager
[11:41] <boneill> Seveas, yeah rebooted pc
[11:41] <IdleOne> !tell Evixion  about wireless
[11:41] <chavo> gnomefreak, I have a job
[11:41] <delmar> gnomefreak, does it stop working/running your games if u dont pay or something?
[11:41] <fisne> i already installed it, why would i go livecd?
[11:41] <cafuego> gnomefreak: That's a lot cheaper then most games (and certainly far cheaper than windows)
[11:41] <Boss666> save the /etc folder to another pertition
[11:41] <gnomefreak> chavo: i have 15 dollars too but thats not the point
[11:41] <boneill> there are 2 Device sections in xorg.conf, 1 with driver "vga" other for fglrx
[11:41] <chavo> delmar, no you can keep whatever version you have
[11:41] <Boss666> pertition = partition
[11:41] <gnomefreak> cafuego: agreed
[11:41] <fisne> what's the page for that windowsdualbooting shit
[11:41] <nickrud> !dualboot
[11:41] <ubotu> hmm... dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[11:41] <gnomefreak> -shit please
[11:41] <farous> !tell boneill about ati
[11:41] <delmar> chavo, ok. so I could be cheeky and not pay :P
[11:42] <chavo> you can do wahtver you like
[11:42] <IdleOne> !tell fisne about coc
[11:42] <IdleOne> !tell fisne about dualboot
[11:42] <farous> boneill: than you use the fglrxconfig utility right
[11:42] <cafuego> delmar: You could, but not on this channel.
[11:42] <Evixion> thanks IdleOne
[11:42] <toyfactory> oh well, not to worry lads, i'll just dust off the slide rule...
[11:42] <boneill> farous, how have i used it wrong? ;)
[11:42] <IdleOne> np Evixion
[11:43] <chavo> I don't play a whole lot of games, but it works with Steam, HL2 etc.
[11:43] <delmar> cafuego, i always pay for things that work nice and impress me.
[11:43] <farous> boneill: did you install the kernel package too
[11:43] <delmar> I have one question about cedega though... I do have a version here... ive never installed it before...know little about it... can I just install ubuntu on a box, install cedega.. then what do I need to do.. install some windows stuff too or.. ?
[11:43] <delmar> perhaps this is not the place...
[11:43] <chavo> my favorite game has a linux native version
[11:43] <delmar> might be some other forums somewhere...
[11:43] <delmar> chavo, quake? :P
[11:43] <Evixion> i guess I'm off here in a minute and give it a try
[11:43] <chavo> delmar, it doesn't need any Windows stuff
[11:44] <cafuego> delmar: Cedega has an interface that allows you to mount cd/dvd media, then run the installer.
[11:44] <chavo> enemy territory
[11:44] <fisne> and yeah, is 2.7GB enough for installing ubuntu?
[11:44] <Evixion> it's just vital i get wireless working
[11:44] <fisne> 5.5GB total
[11:44] <jetscreamer> if it's not id it sucks
[11:44] <cafuego> delmar: All you need is the game's media. No windows.
[11:44] <chavo> and it's free too
[11:44] <_Ana_> hello all. i've got a major problem: i can't login as a normal user, only as root. in text mode, when i try to login as a normal user i get the error: cannot execute /bin/bash. and i've even created another user and i still get that error
[11:44] <nickrud> Delgul_at_work: there's 92 people in #cedega
[11:44] <IdleOne> fisne:  yeah
[11:44] <delmar> cafuego, ok thanks.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> fishse: thats not alot of room for anything else
[11:44] <delmar> THe thing is.. I have been holding on to bloody windows... purely for the one main game I play.. Everquest.
[11:44] <fisne> but the site says ATLEAST 10GB
[11:44] <gnomefreak> default install is around 3 gig iirc
[11:44] <cafuego> delmar: Check the cedega website for any issues that some games night have (they have a useful DB with info)
[11:44] <nickrud> delmar: there's 92 people in #cedega (I may give up tab completion yet)
[11:45] <chavo> usually installinggames that come on multiple CD's is the hardest part about Cedega
[11:45] <cafuego> gnomefreak: 2
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ok 2 gig
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ty cafuego
[11:45] <delmar> I can do any other windows crap by using a vmware windows session under linux.. applications wise.. IF there are any that I want to continue to use... but games dont like vmware much :P
[11:45] <fisne> huh?
[11:45] <PuppiesOnAcid> Are the hard drives on Thinkpads pretty easy to swap out?
[11:45] <cafuego> delmar: No, they'd be unusable slow.
[11:45] <fisne> when doing dualboot, what does run_qtparted
[11:45] <fisne> do?
[11:45] <delmar> cafuego, heh if they run at all :P
[11:45] <farous> PuppiesOnAcid: never tried that
[11:46] <delmar> so I have always had a windows install handy that I can boot up on.
[11:46] <IdleOne> fisne:  it a utility to partion ur HD
[11:46] <gnomefreak> fishse: qtparted is a partioner utility
[11:46] <h3ax> i am going crazy omg
[11:46] <farous> PuppiesOnAcid: but yes seems pretty easy to swap out
[11:46] <PuppiesOnAcid> farous: Man, it just drives me nuts that they ship so many with just 40GB drives.
[11:46] <cafuego> Mind you, I _am_ impressed with vmware server
[11:46] <chavo> delmar, everquest should run fine on an older version of cedega, which do you have?
[11:46] <fisne> yall sure 5.5GB is enough, including swap?
[11:46] <delmar> so what I am hoping is.. I can finally ditch windows ... and run Linux as the main OS on my box.
[11:46] <chavo> yes, vmware rocks
[11:46] <delmar> chavo, good question. ill chec.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> swap is normally 2 times your ram
[11:47] <gnomefreak> up to 1 gig i think
[11:47] <IdleOne> fisne:  its enough to install ubuntu but you wont have much room for installing other apps and such
[11:47] <farous> PuppiesOnAcid: you can specify you need a larger harddisk. I seen up to 80G. Having 60Gb 7200 rpm here
[11:47] <cafuego> fisne: It'll do for a desktop box; just DO NOT make subpartitions for /home and /usr etc.
[11:47] <cafuego> fisne: Just 5 GB / and 512Mb swap
[11:47] <fisne> ic
[11:47] <PuppiesOnAcid> farous: http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?viewByAttrValue=%3CSTRONG%3E14.0%22+%3C%2FSTRONG%3E&sortBy=Price&storeId=10000001&langId=-1&catalogId=-840&categoryId=4611686018425011252&dualCurrId=1000073
[11:47] <PuppiesOnAcid> farous: I want the 2nd model listed there...there's no customize option.
[11:47] <delmar> chavo, the file is cedega_5.0_i386.deb
[11:48] <chavo> delmar, that'll work fine
[11:48] <humon> what's the easiest way to change the window manager in ubuntu 5.10? (i'm currently using gnome, and i've just installed xfce)
[11:48] <fisne> current have 2.7 for ubuntu, 800MB for swap, and 1.3 something for free space
[11:48] <fisne> what yall think?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ok back tot this issue with my crap.. is there a site to help me with hal?
[11:48] <farous> PuppiesOnAcid: one you select it they will give you a customization option and you can always call them :)
[11:48] <cafuego> fisne: That's pushing it
[11:48] <chavo> you have everquest installed in Windows already?
[11:48] <[-DevinE-] > delmar:.:  actualty 5.1 is the laat one
[11:48] <[-DevinE-] > last*
[11:48] <delmar> chavo, I take it if/when Sony update everquest it could break compatability with cedega, and then I need a later version..?
[11:48] <Vinn> So I've been trying to install some games using Cedega (WineX) and I can't seem to see the entire contents of the CDROM in ubuntu but I can when I put the disk in a Windows box. And I installed these games on my laptop before installing Ubuntu in XP. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas? Some are older games, before 1996 old.
[11:49] <PuppiesOnAcid> farous: Well, with the particular model I want, there is no option to change the hard drive or any component listed on that page.
[11:49] <PuppiesOnAcid> farous: Maybe it is a refurb or something?  I dunno.
[11:49] <chavo> delmar, it's possible, but it should work fine. EQ works with older versions as well
[11:49] <chavo> just try it out, nothing to lose
[11:50] <cafuego> PuppiesOnAcid: Most Linux hackers here favour ACER laptops these days.
[11:50] <[-DevinE-] > dosw anyone here play Mu online on linux .. i wanna play 2 but i cant configure it right :(
[11:50] <farous> PuppiesOnAcid: give them a call. I had a similar prob trying to install a RW DVD, ps we should also take this to offtopis as the channel is stricktly for support
[11:50] <chavo> just copy the EQ directory to somewhere you have write permission, it won't work on an NTFS file system
[11:50] <cafuego> PuppiesOnAcid: 'here' being Melbourne (AU)
[11:50] <[t0rc] > whats the shortcut to open shell?
[11:50] <delmar> well.. im just about to make a SATA drive available (deleting movies... /cry)... to plug into my newly purchased workstation... then im installing ubuntu for the first time.... my only thought on this is... does the install support using XFS... but I might just stick to ext3.
[11:50] <PuppiesOnAcid> cafuego: Really?  That is very interesting.
[11:50] <PuppiesOnAcid> cafuego: Any reason why?
[11:50] <delmar> chavo, looking forward to this.
[11:50] <[-DevinE-] > !nvidia
[11:50] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:50] <cafuego> PuppiesOnAcid: Fairly cheap and huge hdd's. Also default configs with up to 1GB of ram.
[11:51] <Evixion> !ati
[11:51] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[11:51] <cafuego> PuppiesOnAcid: getting that sort of spec on an IBM costs you an arm and a leg.
[11:51] <delmar> chavo, yep I was going to copy my existing EQ folder over to the ubuntu box once its installed...
[11:51] <Evixion> !cisco
[11:51] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Evixion
[11:51] <delmar> chavo, but not sure what i do in cedega after that... im not at that point yet so .. ill sort that out when i get to it.
[11:52] <cafuego> delmar: After install, copy the data to where the app expects it, then run the game (Cedega will give it an icon, just double-click it)
[11:52] <delmar> the CD install disks I have here for ubuntu are... version 5.04. Is that still fairly current?
[11:52] <global`> my pc wont go online with ubuntu....
[11:53] <delmar> cafuego, thanks for that. ill note that for later.
[11:53] <gnomefreak> delmar: that was less than a year ago
[11:53] <cafuego> delmar: It's the current - 1 stable
[11:53] <gnomefreak> breezy is the most current stable
[11:53] <[-DevinE-] > oky can anyone help me install nvidia on my box plz ??!!??
[11:53] <gnomefreak> 5.10
[11:53] <FlannelKing> delmar: you can install with those disks and update to the current version (5.10) without a problem
[11:53] <delmar> ok. so that install should work great.
[11:53] <delmar> FlannelKing, cheers.
[11:53] <PuppiesOnAcid> cafuego: farous: Can you join #laptop? thanks
[11:54] <pder> can ubuntu be used on a computer?
[11:54] <cafuego> [-DevinE-] : sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx
[11:54] <hernan> hello...
[11:54] <delmar> So is installing and using XFS a hassel or is it a supported option?
[11:54] <hernan> i speak spanish
[11:54] <[-DevinE-] > no no not the glx
[11:54] <FlannelKing> pder: no, just toasters.
[11:54] <[-DevinE-] > i think i can use that
[11:54] <gnomefreak> pder: what else are you gonna use it on?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> hernan: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:54] <cafuego> [-DevinE-] : If you want to use the nvidia driver, you need those two packages.
[11:55] <pder> what kind of toasters?
[11:55] <[-DevinE-] > even if i have a gforce 2  ?
[11:55] <hernan> hello friend
[11:55] <FlannelKing> pder: only the stainless steel ones
[11:55] <gnomefreak> !es
[11:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:55] <hernan> this is my first step in linux
[11:56] <cafuego> [-DevinE-] : Then you need nvidia-glx-legacy instead or nvidia-glxc
[11:56] <gnomefreak> but im scared that it wont work (like my ati cards didnt work)
[11:56] <IdleOne>  /me has a toaster
[11:57] <IdleOne> :/
[11:57] <hernan> people: can i help me, please...?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> FlannelKing: i have ubuntu on my black and green toaster its not stainless steel :(
[11:57] <gnomefreak> hernan: type /join #ubuntu-es
[11:57] <FlannelKing> gnomefreak: oh, must be a feature in the new release.
[11:57] <hernan> thanks
[11:57] <IdleOne> hernan:  escribe /join #ubuntu-es por ayudo in espanol
[11:57] <gnomefreak> gleesond: it is :)\
[11:58] <hernan> in the console?
[11:58] <[-DevinE-] > cafuego:.: can we talk on prv plz ?
[11:58] <IdleOne> in this window
[11:58] <hernan> or in this text chat?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> hernan: no like your typing in htis room
[11:58] <cafuego> [-DevinE-] : Just ask on the channel.
[11:58] <Lacarno> Hi everyone.  Anyone have experience using java-package to install java SDK on a powerpc?
[11:58] <IdleOne> aqui guay
[11:58] <gnomefreak> this*
[11:58] <cafuego> [-DevinE-] : That way everyone cna help.
[11:58] <hernan> why?
[11:58] <hernan> because i m argentinian
[11:58] <gnomefreak> hernan: that will giv eyou the spanish speaking room
[11:58] <IdleOne> hernan:  what do you need help with?
[11:58] <FlannelKing> hernan, they speak spanish there.  Most of us don't.  You can stay here if you want, but we only speak english.
[11:58] <gnomefreak> hernan: unless you fele comfortable in english
[11:59] <gnomefreak> feel
[11:59] <hernan> where i type spanish
[11:59] <[-DevinE-] > true .. but i'm tired and i cant folow the instruction on the channel verry well .. and it was just a request
[11:59] <gnomefreak> irssi needs spell check in next version :(
[11:59] <hernan> room
[11:59] <navarone> !es
[11:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:59] <gnomefreak> hernan: in here type /join #ubuntu-es
[11:59] <drip6> Hi, does anyone know how to repair restore RGB database?
[11:59] <FlannelKing> gnomefreak: I'm sure you can make a plugin for it