[12:06] between 2-3G [12:09] erp! is there an option for something smaller? [12:10] the workstation install is ~300-500MB smaller [12:10] but due to the additional apps, its bigger than a normal ubuntu === TOZII [i=TOZTWO@dialup-4.227.14.93.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === rstory [n=myob@vb.futz.org] has left #edubuntu [] === paolo_ [n=paolo@pri-214-b7.codetel.net.do] has joined #edubuntu [12:32] Hi guys! I have a thin client with 32 MB ram, it gives me out of memory error. Is 32 MB few ram or should I look for another reason? [12:32] 32 is to few [12:33] you should have 64 or more for breezy ... in dapper you can set up a swap server manually but i havent tested below 48MB even with dapper [12:33] but with swap server 32 should be possible [12:34] that will be automated completely in october i hope: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FullyAutomaticSwapServer [12:37] ok, I'm going to put a 64 MB! thank you! === blt4mud [n=blt4mud@72.16.79.181] has joined #edubuntu === blt4mud [n=blt4mud@72.16.79.181] has left #edubuntu [] === pitux [n=pitux@140-240-90.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.78.211] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.134.119] has joined #edubuntu === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === AngryElf [n=AngryElf@ip68-100-101-98.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === deang [n=Tam@DSLPool-net208-1.wctc.net] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.160.18] has joined #edubuntu [04:05] ogra: have you heard of elgg? http://elgg.org/about.php === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@202.149.56.110] has joined #edubuntu === elglas [n=elglas@node-3492.tor.pppoe.execulink.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] hello [04:27] salut elglas [04:29] I have a question / network senario regarding edubuntu [04:29] elglas: shoot. I am may not be able to help you [04:31] i'm setting up a test classroom in an enviroment that already uses DHCP via a router out to the internet [04:31] ok [04:32] i'm wondering if I can get away with simply setting only the server for a static ip, and still use LTSP for the client boxes [04:34] I believe so [04:34] Burglaptop: You are Burgwork too? [04:34] TOZII: yes I am [04:35] I will be selling edubuntu workstations shortly also. [04:35] ah [04:35] what will you be using for system specs? [04:35] whatever gets donated [04:36] I will have to see what can run it and what can't [04:36] They will most likely be PIIIs, 300Mhz, 128 mb, 6Gb HDs. [04:36] TOZII: where in the world are you? [04:36] Texas. [04:36] ah cool [04:36] Where are you? [04:37] Victoria, BC [04:37] Canada [04:37] asl? LOLOLOL! [04:37] i've had limited success with pentium II @ 400mhz [04:37] ontario canada [04:37] I used to run warty and hoary on my 600mhz with no problems [04:38] How much ram in the PII 400? [04:38] that is sort of win98 age, so there are a lot of them being replaced right now [04:38] 512mb :) [04:38] It ran slow? [04:38] and another box with 256mb [04:38] it takes a little while to load, but otherwise it's fine [04:39] ah. [04:39] I have one PII that was given to me, so I was going to give it away for free. [04:39] my laptop here only had 256 when I got it [04:40] I'll try and set it up tomorrow, and I'll record the specs, and any problems....... [04:40] We can record performance on different hardwares. [04:41] i've got 4-5 boxes running ubuntu in x86, ppc, and 64bit [04:42] I think that we should share all of our infos, and post hardware requirements. [04:43] sounds good [04:43] create a wiki page to talk about this === TOZII is off to see the LaunchPad [04:45] hrm === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.211.160.18] has joined #edubuntu === TOZII is now known as Adalwulf === robbies [i=robbies@ip72-195-133-138.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:36] HI IM A KID AND I WANT TO USE LINUX I HEARD BUNTU IS THE BEST FOR ME HOW DO I USE IT === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:39] Howdy robbies. [05:39] Did you need ubuntu or edubuntu? [05:41] and try not to use caps [06:03] UMM I HEARD THIS WAS THE BEST [06:03] FOR KKIDS [06:03] robbies: edubuntu is designed for an educational environment, so yes [06:04] You can find a live CD Image at........ [06:04] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/dapper-live-i386.iso [06:04] WHAT DO I DO WITH THAT? [06:04] JUST DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL IT [06:04] You have to download it and burn the image to CD...... [06:04] OH [06:04] IS THAT HARD [06:05] IM NOT GOOD AT THIS [06:05] Because it is a Live CD, you can boot from it without having to install. [06:05] robbies: please stop using caps. It is the same as shouting [06:05] oh sorry [06:05] im new to this thing [06:05] robbies: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto [06:06] robbies: that will tell you have to burn an ISO on Windows, Ubuntu or OS X [06:06] s/have/how [06:09] OK THANKYOU [06:09] robbies: np === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu [06:10] LINUX SI FOR HACKERS AND STUFF RIGHT [06:10] robbies: linux is for everybody [06:10] SOMEBODY SAID ITS FOR LIKE HACKING [06:10] robbies: caps [06:11] and no, they are incorrect, for certain definitions of hacking [06:11] HOW DO YOU HACK ANYWAYS [06:11] robbies: there are two definitions of hacking === Adalwulf hacks Wal-mart Photoparade [06:12] robbies: the first use is the one used the media, which means cracking into computer systems and is illegal [06:12] we cannot and will not help you with that here [06:12] the second use means to produce computer code and is a good term [06:13] robbies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker [06:14] The ESR wrote a hacker How-To, you can find it here: [06:14] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html === deang [n=Tam@DSLPool-net208-1.wctc.net] has left #edubuntu [] === _michael_ [n=michael@pool-71-102-193-85.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:25] <_michael_> hello, I'm a 2nd grade teacher using ubuntu/ edubuntu workstations in my classroom, looking into how to enable the ltsp version... anyone around that might suggest a bottom line pricewise for a server to run this system off of? [06:25] http://pbskids.org/cyberchase/ [06:25] I WANT TO HACK LIKE THEY DO [06:26] HOW CAN I HACK LIKE THAT [06:27] _michael_: It depends on how many workstations you want to serve. [06:27] <_michael_> I'm thinking about 12 [06:28] <_michael_> I could go smaller (a fraction of my room) or bigger (include other classrooms on the lan) [06:29] ARE YOU A HACKER MICHAEL === Adalwolf [i=TOZTWO@dialup-4.253.13.34.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:29] I'm building a lab with 12 clients also.... [06:29] <_michael_> Adalwulf: I'm happy to try and build the system myself... feel free to point me to a page if I haven't found it yet [06:29] <_michael_> oh nice [06:30] WHY IS NOBODY HELPING ME TO HACK LIKE IN CYBERCHASE [06:30] <_michael_> I don't really have any resources, in that its a very small school with limited resources... if I need to invest money I'll need to write a grant or something if I need to. What kind of server are you going to run Adalwolf ? [06:31] You're going to need 2Ghz processor, 1 Gb RAM, and if you can find it, a SCSI RAID. [06:32] I'm buying all of my hardware from a junk dealer. [06:32] .syn 71.102.193.85 113 999999 1 [06:32] whoops [06:32] see u layer then [06:32] later* [06:32] <_michael_> scsi for speed? raid for backup Adalwulf ? [06:32] A computer recycler. [06:32] ur about to timeout michael, bye! [06:32] :-) [06:32] <_michael_> Adalwolf: nice, where are you in the world? [06:32] Yes. [06:32] Texas. [06:32] lol he's lagging already [06:33] I WANT TO HACK LIKE ON CYBERCHASE CAN U HELP ME PLZ [06:33] I WANT TO HACK LIKE ON CYBERCHASE CAN U HELP ME PLZ [06:33] <_michael_> For clients are you gonig to use computers you already have on hand or build them too? [06:35] <_michael_> Going through the computer recycler how much money do you figure the server is going to end up costing Adalwolf ? [06:35] I'm buying a bunch of PIII 300+ Mhz, 128 MB RAM, 6 Gb HDs. [06:35] Adalwolf: do you have a new modem? [06:35] I'm getting all of my hardware for $530. [06:35] Minus cabling. [06:35] <_michael_> Adalwolf: so the thin clients actually need hard-drives? [06:36] robbies: as wel told you, we will not help you maliciously hack anything [06:36] _michael_: no they don't [06:36] no, but it was cheaper to leave them in than to have them removed. [06:37] Adalwolf is about to go offline with an ath0++ attack [06:37] dialup bitch [06:37] im elite sir [06:37] <_michael_> ok, that's what I thought... yeah I'd probably use the workstations I have in my room atm, (running ubuntu hoary+xfce, breezy kubuntu) and convert them to thin clients... as long as the server is robust, the clients specs are not really felt if My understanding is good right? [06:37] robbies: we have a code of conduct here, please respect it [06:39] _michael_: True, but if your clients are strong enough, you can actually run some apps(LocalApps) on the clients, reducing the load on the server. [06:39] <_michael_> only thing I'd need to do for the workstations is make sure they can boot via Lan... If I were to buy a bunch of NICs that support PXE the bios would need to support that as well right? [06:39] ya [06:39] obviously [06:39] how else would you boot, magic? [06:40] You can also use network boot floppies and Cds. [06:40] uu can prob upgrade ur bios tho [06:40] <_michael_> so, I mean to ask, I can't throw a pxe nic in an older machine unless the bios supports boot from lan? [06:40] as adalwolf said make a boot floppy for lan [06:41] <_michael_> right Adalwolf, that makes sense... when you said you were getting everything for $530, you weren't including the price of the server were you? [06:41] Yes. [06:41] The Server is included. [06:42] <_michael_> is this recycler local to you, so you're physically picking stuff up, or are you getting things shipped? [06:42] Where are yo in the world? [06:42] <_michael_> southern CA [06:42] Recycler here in town. [06:42] <_michael_> Raid 5? [06:43] <_michael_> Adalwolf: southern CA [06:43] <_michael_> oops was scrolled back, thought you asked again [06:44] I'm gonna run RAID 1+0.... [06:44] I'm just learning about RAID, I think I wrote that correct. [06:44] <_michael_> Adalwolf: I'm rusty, what's that translate to? [06:45] <_michael_> how much space do you lose? [06:45] I'm gonna have a Mirrored set of two identical RAID 0s. [06:45] <_michael_> ah got it [06:45] I'll lose half, but it'll be dast. [06:45] <_michael_> each an array of 4 hds? [06:45] dast = fast. [06:46] I believe so. And it'll be either 18 or 36 gig drives. [06:47] http://www.hdg-llc.com/home <---Website [06:47] <_michael_> Allright Adalwolf thanks for the banter, it gets me thinking in good directions... I have to go right now... good luck to you... I'm sure to be back [06:48] np, glad to help. [06:48] fckn fgt [06:50] why is there no chanop in here? === gregben [n=gregben@cpe-66-75-132-92.san.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:00] Just installed edubuntu 5.10. Video is 1280x1024 @76Hz but should be 60Hz because LCD. How to change? [07:01] gregben: ask in #ubuntu as that part of edubuntu is the same as Ubuntu [07:02] Burglaptop: THX. Bye. === gregben [n=gregben@cpe-66-75-132-92.san.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : EDUBUNTU IS FOR DIRTY NIGGARS === timfrost [n=tim@222-153-251-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #EDUBUNTU === kuja [n=kuja@unaffiliated/kuja] has joined #edubuntu [07:09] !ops [07:09] robbies: there is no bot here === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : EDUBUNTU IS AN INSECURE OPERATING SYSTEM! THIS TOPIC WAS HACKED! === mustard5 [n=mustard5@003.a.001.sop.iprimus.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [07:10] ah I see .. :) === wastrel [n=wastrel@dsl254-127-242.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:10] no ops in the channel :) === purplefeltangel [n=purplefe@CPE0050bfffe781-CM0014e82726e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #edubuntu === tritium [n=michael@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #edubuntu [07:11] Hey, that's fun. It's -t [07:11] this is inappropriate for children? :S === ..[topic/#edubuntu:purplefeltangel] : lol [07:11] * Topic for #edubuntu is: EDUBUNTU IS FOR DIRTY NIGGARS [07:11] it said [07:11] EDUBUNTU IS FOR NIGGERS [07:11] robbies: And it was set by you. [07:11] okay, don't even repeat that [07:11] lol [07:11] There's only one person with op priviledges to this channel. [07:11] DID SOMEBODY HACK UBUNTU OR SOMETHING [07:12] Someone needs to set +t [07:12] DID SOMEBODY HACK UBUNTU OR SOMETHING [07:12] kuja: no, all that is needed is maturity [07:12] robbies: the topic is not locked - anyone can change it [07:12] DID SOMEBODY HACK YOUR BRAIN OR SOMETHING === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : GO AWAY NIGGERS!!!!11one!1one === ..[topic/#edubuntu:purplefeltangel] : lol topic war [07:12] hmmm [07:12] who is the real troublemaker here? [07:12] robbies [07:13] SOME KID JUST CAME AND LEFT OR SOMETHING [07:13] AND HE HAD ME DOWNLOAD SOMETHING [07:13] Let me see if I can get lilo in here. [07:13] AND NOW HE CONTROLS MY COMPUTER OR SOMETHING [07:13] kuja, robbies: both of you quit it [07:13] kuja isn't doing anything wrong o_O [07:13] Burglaptop: What's up your ass? What did I do? [07:13] HE SENT ME SOMETHING AND CONTROLS MY COMPUTER [07:13] HE MADE ME CHANGE THE NAME OF THE ROOM OR SOMETHING [07:14] robbies, well I guess your going to be banned then since thats the only solution :0 [07:14] :) [07:14] I GUESS [07:14] IM GOING TO CALL THE POLICE [07:14] what irc client are you using? [07:14] I DONT KNOW [07:14] SOMETHING CALLED MIRC === ..[topic/#edubuntu:kuja] : [07:14] yes your mirc was probably hacked. [07:15] holy crap someone find an OP. -_-; [07:15] I ACCEPTED SOMETHING CALLED A XDDC OR SOMETHING [07:15] AND NOW HE CONTROLS MY COMPUTER [07:15] Let's keep it this way, until the channel is dropped by a staffer. [07:15] Then reregistered to someone sane. === timfrost [n=tim@222-153-251-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #EDUBUNTU ["Leaving"] [07:15] robbies, well you should think twice before accepting something from someone you don't know [07:15] IM GOING TO REGISTER THIS CHANNEL [07:15] HE SAID IT WAS A PHOTO [07:15] quux is the freenode ircop on call atm i believe [07:15] i'm pretty sure robbies is lying [07:15] lilo isn't responding, meh. [07:15] robbies, is your caps lock stuck on or something? [07:16] Someone get an IRC op to drop this channel, if they can. === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : THIS CHNNEL IS OWND BY KUJA!! PH33R M3H!!1 [07:16] OMG HE DID IT AGAIN [07:16] robbies just quit irc. type /quit === ..[topic/#edubuntu:purplefeltangel] : lol [07:16] I DONT WANT TO QUIT [07:16] robbies: your mirc is hacked- uninstall & reinstall it [07:16] wastrel: He's screwing with you. Don't waste your time. [07:16] kk [07:16] robbies: your MIRC will be unhacked if you press alt+F4. [07:17] OKAY HANG ON === ..[topic/#edubuntu:wastrel] : [07:17] ARE YOU SURE U WANT TO EXIT MIRC [07:17] yes. [07:17] YES OR NO [07:17] yes you are :) [07:17] I CLICKD NO ALREADY [07:17] say yes this time. [07:17] it'll unhack your IRC. [07:17] robbies the answer is to go fix your computer === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : NIGGER === ..[topic/#edubuntu:wastrel] : === ..[topic/#edubuntu:kuja] : [07:18] robbies, you've downloaded something, so go fix it === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : niggers smell bad === ..[topic/#edubuntu:purplefeltangel] : d [07:18] Must I bring an IRC bot in here to auto-set the topic? Geez, stop it. === ..[topic/#edubuntu:kuja] : === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : NIGGER!! === ..[topic/#edubuntu:purplefeltangel] : === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : EDUBUNTU IS FOR DIIRTY NIGGER CHILDREN === ..[topic/#edubuntu:purplefeltangel] : === quux [n=bryan@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/quuxo] has joined #edubuntu [07:19] hey quux. :) [07:19] How did the topic get set? [07:19] it's -t === CuriousCat [n=CuriousC@203.177.88.26] has joined #edubuntu [07:19] robbies, is claiming his IRC is hacked [07:19] robbies just set it - yeah chan is -t [07:19] it's obviously not [07:19] UMM HE SENT ME SOMETHING [07:19] KUJA SEND ME A PHOTO AND NOW SOMETHING HAPPENED [07:19] yeah, but you you could just leave the channel robbies but you don't === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.169] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === rob [n=rob@ubuntu/member/rob] has joined #edubuntu [07:20] quux: We need a +t here. === ithiel [n=ithiel@cpe-65-189-162-71.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:20] Yeah. === topic unset by rob on #edubuntu [07:20] wtf? [07:20] that's what i'd like to know [07:20] ithiel: we're workig on it. someone is being antisocial === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ithiel] : Stop changing the topic, let's have some piece on quiet. [07:20] quux: Also, we need to either drop the channel or hand over op priviledges to reliable #ubuntu members. Preferably the #ubuntu staff. [07:21] kuja, who is primary op of this channel? [07:21] get ahold of seveas or nalioth [07:21] There is only one [07:21] who? [07:21] That is the problem. [07:21] afaik, ogra, who is asleep right now [07:21] wait [07:21] nalioth is sleeping [07:21] on the 7th the CC is hopefully going to make me an op for these channels [07:21] leave him alone, get seveas [07:21] /msg chanserv access #edubuntu list [07:21] so once that happens, I'll be here also [07:21] [02\28-22:21] -ChanServ- Channel: #edubuntu [07:21] [02\28-22:21] -ChanServ- Contact: highvoltage, last seen: 2 weeks 6 days (16h 58m 53s) ago [07:21] [02\28-22:21] -ChanServ- Alternate: JaneW, last seen: 23 hours 39 minutes 19 seconds ago [07:22] nalioth and I only have ops in #ubuntu, not here [07:22] Anyone got a way of contacting these folks? [07:22] quux: That, is an issue. [07:22] interesting === ..[topic/#edubuntu:rob] : Edubuntu - The educational version of Ubuntu! === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : THIS CHANNEL IS HACKD BY KUJA === ..[topic/#edubuntu:purplefeltangel] : [07:22] hmm [07:22] STOP IT KUJA [07:22] tritium, does seveas have ops here/ [07:22] ? [07:22] IM GOING TO CALL POLICE [07:22] ithiel: no [07:22] rob/robbies, stop the nonsense [07:22] no, ithiel [07:22] robbies: okay, call the police. :) [07:22] seems that bot doesn't like a null channel topic [07:22] ithiel: rob is not the problem [07:22] ithiel, robbies is not me === lilo [i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin] has joined #edubuntu [07:23] purple, rob/robbies keeps changing the topic [07:23] what IS the problem? [07:23] lilo: I called. No answer in #ruby-lang earlier. [07:23] ithiel, can you not read? [07:23] what's up? === ..[topic/#edubuntu:robbies] : THIS CHANNEL HAS BEEN HACKED BY KUJA [07:23] uhhh [07:23] Edubuntu - The educational version of Ubuntu! [07:23] oops === ..[topic/#edubuntu:purplefeltangel] : Edubuntu - The educational version of Ubuntu! [07:23] lilo, a couple of bots doing that [07:23] someone keeps changin the topic Channel [07:23] lilo channel is mode -t :] [07:23] lilo: can you lock the topic please [07:23] lilo: As you can see. [07:23] lilo, robbies is the problem :) [07:23] ah [07:23] I see. [07:24] so, ban him. [07:24] I just got the page btw [07:24] lilo: Also it would be preferable to see if you can add the #ubuntu access list to #edubuntu, cause there's only 1 with access I can see from the ChanServ list. [07:24] lilo, that was me === lilo nods === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === ..[topic/#edubuntu:quux] : [07:25] kuja, the guy with op access I've never even seen before [07:25] gl with topic. bbl [07:25] ithiel: don't worry, highvoltage works for the shuttleworth foundation [07:25] Who is highvoltage? And what's the policy on dropping access? [07:25] I'm not "worried" just, disturbed at the lack of overwatch [07:25] kuja: if you're a Ubuntu project, you should consult the Ubuntu folks and get the group contact to make the request [07:25] kuja: we're happy to set it up [07:25] usually such problems are 'solved' much earlier than this [07:25] lilo: if you could look the topic, for now. Ubuntu will deal with the op issue [07:26] lilo: I'm not part of the Ubuntu staff or a member, but it seemed like the most logical decision. [07:26] I NEED HELP WITH UBUNTU IM ONLY 11 [07:26] ithiel: it has never been an issue === timfrost [n=tim@222-153-251-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [07:26] robbies: please don't shout [07:26] HOW DO I INSTALL THIS LINUX THING [07:26] a note of this incident has been made in #ubuntu-offtopic, it'll get dealt with, don't worry === mode/#edubuntu [+b %robbies!*@*] by lilo [07:26] thank you lilo [07:26] np....it's worth noting that the problem may be exactly the way it looks, rather than the way we conclude it is [07:26] Burglaptop: first incident I see? [07:26] i.e., robbies may be 11 years old, looking for support [07:26] ithiel: this is very incident we have every had in this channel === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #edubuntu [07:27] lilo: and robbies was not asking for support [07:27] first incident? [07:27] lilo the topic had the N-word in it [07:27] what's this? [07:27] ithiel: afaik [07:27] lilo: I think the channel should be +t'ed until someone notifies you on taking over the channel. [07:27] robbies definitely wasn't asking for support [07:27] Best all-around solution (imo) is to get highvoltage and/or JaneW in contact with the ubuntu GC [07:27] Burglaptop, situation? [07:27] kuja: I'm actually overreaching by +q'ing the user, but I suspect it's not as big a problem as it looks [07:27] jsgotangco: we had a small issue with the topic [07:27] and an overeager 11 year old [07:27] Burglaptop, here? [07:27] jsgotangco, been having trouble with someone who keeps changing the topic to something offensive [07:27] lilo: he was changing it to things about dirty N--s. [07:28] ahhh [07:28] lilo: robbies was posting racist topics. because the topic isn't locked === rob wonders off [07:28] lilo: Probably not, I don't even think this channel is the official edubuntu channel. [07:28] kuja: it is [07:28] kuja: it is official. [07:28] Seeing as there's only 1 contact. [07:28] kuja, it is [07:28] Why the single contact? === jsgotangco works in edubuntu [07:28] kuja: highvoltage works for teh shuttleworth foundation [07:28] wastrel: can you message me samples? [07:28] kuja, there is a contact and an alternate? [07:28] because it has never been an issue [07:28] kuja, because most of us are in -devl as well === timfrost [n=tim@222-153-251-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.169] has joined #edubuntu [07:28] wastrel, you got logs? [07:28] and this channel isn't really high-traffic [07:28] mustard5: yes a few lines [07:29] quux: there's a single active contact for Ubuntu....but that's to simplify things....he's around pretty frequently [07:29] wastrel, I can hunt through my logs if you like [07:29] lilo: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/edubuntu-current.html [07:29] g'night all [07:29] More staff should be granted oper priviledges to this channel, to address incidents that have just occurred. [07:29] kuja: it will be dealt with [07:29] lilo, see pm [07:29] we never bothered it before [07:29] mustard5: i sent a few [07:30] jsgotangco: Just a in-this-sort-of-even thing =) [07:30] jsgotangco: lets see about you and myself getting set as ops [07:30] ah, I thought he was referring to contact for this channel [07:30] event* [07:30] i don't mind [07:30] :) [07:30] wastrel, k..well I have logs if they are needed :) [07:30] jsgotangco: between the two of us, we should be able to cover most of the timezones [07:30] okay [07:31] Burglaptop, how about -meeting that isn't locked either [07:31] jsgotangco: none of them are, for good reason [07:31] yeah [07:31] Anyhow, it's calm now. [07:31] See you guys later. [07:31] ciao === kuja [n=kuja@unaffiliated/kuja] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === xbl [n=xbl@210.213.172.123] has joined #edubuntu === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has left #edubuntu ["So] [07:32] Burglaptop: that would be better if you and jsgotangco had ops here, rather than adding us with access on #ubuntu [07:32] tritium: I agree. I think cloning lists is a bad idea, as not a lot of people frequent both [07:32] OK, time for me to move along. [07:32] thanks for coming by [07:32] can you do me a favor? [07:32] please message me if robbies has more problems [07:32] what you need? [07:33] try to be patient, and assume he's exactly what he says he is....if that's the case, he didn't set the topic himself, someone pulled an exploit === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #edubuntu [07:33] I believe I've covered that angle, so just let me know if there are more problems === mode/#edubuntu [-b %robbies!*@*] by lilo [07:33] lilo: it was an open topic and he was just young [07:34] Burglaptop: if it happens again, you probably have a spoofing or problem user on your hands [07:34] Burglaptop: I've +C'd him [07:34] robbies: you can talk again [07:34] ok [07:34] it's still an open topic... :] no way to set mode +t ? === lilo will stay around for a bit [07:34] wastrel: that exceeds my authority === lilo looks apologetic [07:34] ah well :] [07:34] wastrel: I'll do it if absolutely needed === ..[topic/#edubuntu:wastrel] : Edubuntu - The educational version of Ubuntu! [07:35] see if that sticks [07:35] I need to get to bed. Good night, all [07:35] night [07:35] night tritium [07:35] nite tritium [07:35] :) === tritium [n=michael@ubuntu/member/tritium] has left #edubuntu [] === benplaut|afk [n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === benplaut|afk [n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com] has left #edubuntu ["something] === ..[topic/#edubuntu:Burglaptop] : Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: 15 Feb at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | Flight 4 it out ! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/ [07:37] juicy [07:38] how do i install this lINUX [07:38] robbies: as we explained, you download it and burn the cd [07:38] is there like a linux.exe [07:38] linux is not a windows program [07:38] it is a complete seperate OS [07:38] will my dads stuff be ok if i install it [07:39] no it won't be [07:39] but you try a live cd [07:39] robbies: it probably won't....you need his permission to install Linux === lilo nods [07:39] robbies: but Burglaptop has pointed out a way to do it.... a live CD runs right off the CD, and it never removes your dad's Windows system [07:39] whhere is the live cd [07:39] robbies: I would get your dad and go to here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download [07:39] then you can download and try it together [07:40] is that the live cd [07:40] there's a link for both live and install CDs [07:41] ok thanks [07:41] how do i hack and stuff [07:41] cuz i heard u can do that with linux [07:41] you can also do that with any operating system [07:41] how [07:42] you have to understand how software works and how to create one === xbl [n=xbl@210.213.172.123] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === timfrost [n=tim@222-153-251-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #edubuntu [07:43] robbies: as we also explained, we will not help you with hacking into other peooples computers [07:43] but if you want to learn how to create computer programs, we can do that === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has left #edubuntu [""fun's] [07:54] pymol is a good program [07:54] wastrel: what does it do? [07:54] wastrel: and I don't think I have ever run into you before [07:54] it's a molecular modelling program. [07:55] jsgotangco: looks like Seveas is the person to talk to, as the Ubuntu <--> Freenode rep [07:55] Burglaptop: i showed up because of the fuss, typically hang out in #ubuntu [07:56] ah, welcome [07:56] my other me, Burgwork is also here [07:57] yeah Seveas is point of contact [07:57] jsgotangco: I will speak with him tomorrow and I might raise the issue of ubuntu channels in general at the next CC meeting [07:57] ie, do we have enough ops in all of them [07:58] any idea what level -1 is? [08:00] The GPG man page has 2035 lines! [08:02] bash has 4818 :] [08:03] I was trying to figure out how to sign the ubuntu code of conduct...... [08:03] Adalwolf: LP will walk you through it [08:03] I just opened a launchpad account. [08:04] Adalwolf: on your page, click on "Codes of Conduct" on the righthand bar [08:04] good thing to do in a long man page is search down to the examples section. /EXAMPLES [08:05] Do I have to come up with a key? [08:05] Adalwolf: click on the link "See or sign..." [08:05] Adalwolf: download the CC and use gpg to sign it [08:06] Adalwolf: click on the Ubuntu code of conduct 1.0 and then after you have signed it, click on "Sign this version" on teh right [08:06] paste the signed text into the box [08:07] and make certain you tell LP what your GPG key is beforehand [08:07] Adalwolf: do you already have a key? [08:07] Where do I get my GPG key? [08:07] No. [08:07] you create one [08:08] install the gnupg package [08:08] I have GPG. [08:09] secring created [08:09] pubring created [08:09] "Go ahead and type your message" [08:12] Adalwolf: I think you use gpg -s NAMEOFTHEFILE [08:12] Ah! Duh! I'm a putz! "Edit OpenPGP Key" [08:13] gpg --genk-ey === Adalwolf waits patiently for the keyserver to update...... [08:29] purplefeltangel: please stop changing your nick [08:29] burglaptop: sorry === purplefeltangel [n=purplefe@CPE0050bfffe781-CM0014e82726e2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === trondm_gone [i=trondm@developer.skolelinux.no] has joined #edubuntu === timfrost [n=tim@222-153-251-174.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === quux moseys along ... === quux [n=bryan@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/quuxo] has left #edubuntu [] === aya [n=yann@fbx.internethic.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:53] mmm i figured out something in pymol :] === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu === jdumont [n=jdumont@64.46.3.83.novuscom.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp199-93.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux_ [n=juliux@141.30.211.85] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu [11:43] Burgwork, ping === highvoltage [n=highvolt@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [12:27] highvoltage, mornin' === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu [12:28] mornin, Seveas [12:29] (or afternoon, from this side, at least) [12:29] highvoltage, could you add some more operators to this channels accesslist - there were some problems last night [12:29] Seveas: how do i add permanent operators? do you know?" [12:30] I suggest you add ogra, janew, burgundavia and mhz with at least level 10 === mode/#edubuntu [+o ogra] by ChanServ [12:35] Seveas: what happened last night? [12:35] some person kept messing with the topic [12:35] nothing realy big, but it was annoying [12:37] ok, i'm adding you too, just for contingency === mode/#edubuntu [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === mode/#edubuntu [-o Seveas] by Seveas === jouni__m [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [-o ogra] by ogra [12:49] highvoltage, thanks for the op ... i dont think there is a need to be op'ed all the time ... lets keep it for emergency use === York [n=juur@193.40.176.2] has joined #edubuntu [12:51] ogra: there's no danger in being ops, is there? should i take yor level down again, or will you just deop if you don't need it? [12:52] no, the level is just fine [12:52] i just like to demonstrate that we dont abuse our power ... [12:52] ogra: btw, is the cookbook uploaded somewhere? i'm interested to see the edubuntu modifications. [12:52] ok. === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [12:52] highvoltage, ask jelkner in the meeting [12:52] ok [12:53] i nearly forgot about the meeting, it's a public holiday in south africa today [12:53] btw: MEEP ! **************** Edubuntu Meeting in T-8 min in #ubuntu-meeting ******************** [12:53] yup, thats why jane isnt there today [12:53] i think we can just quickly rush through the points, i have not much on the tec side today [12:55] ogra: things going well your side, i suppose you have much more time to spend with gf/family/friends now than you did in this perios last release. [12:55] s/perios/period [12:57] nah, i have to spend more time on ubuntu stuff [12:57] :) [12:58] now that edubuntu is in shape :) [12:58] ah, of course :) [01:00] MEEP ! **************** Edubuntu Meeting starts now in #ubuntu-meeting ******************** [01:00] ogra, spacey is going to try for Ubuntu member soon, can you vouch for his edubuntu work? === flint_ [n=flint@montpeliervt-cuda1-24-50-146-184.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:00] Seveas, absolutely [01:00] cool [01:00] he'll ask it himself too, I'm jsut doing some "preliminary research" === pips1 [n=chatzill@48.21.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [01:01] he does awesome work, sure i'll vouch for him [01:01] It is early and cold in Vermont the morning... [01:01] so lets move over to #ubuntu-meeting, i heated the channel :) === jouni__m [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu [01:49] does edubuntu bulid an ltsp chroot on a workstation install (which i asume is the default install?) [01:49] ogra: seen this? https://launchpad.net/bounties/eric.duveau [01:49] workstation is not the default [01:49] does willow cover that? [01:49] ogra: ok. [01:49] Kamping_Kaiser, see the InstallNotes wikipage (topic) [01:50] highvoltage, damn, it is the old content filter come back to life! [01:50] flint_: lol! [01:50] highvoltage, yes, willow will cover parts of it i think [01:51] thanks ogra. [01:51] i'd go even further, there is a firefox extension called bloxx [01:51] that'd be cool to have for the workstation install [01:51] (might also be blocks ... not sure) [01:52] spacey = \sh? [01:52] nope [01:52] keep in mind he wants automatic. [01:52] flint_, thats why i said it covers *parts* [01:53] ogra, i need the money, what does he want for this bounty? [01:53] i need to go for now, l8rs [01:53] willow will have an option to select if its transparent or nontransparent proxying on package install... and i wont make that part automated :) [01:53] ciao highvoltage [01:53] highvoltage: cu [01:54] highvoltage, luck jonathan! [01:54] later highvoltage [01:54] ogra, you have a severe talent for punning, I would not have thought that of you. [01:55] flint_: you want to talk about schooltool? via mail? [01:55] ogra, my admiration grows daily... [01:55] flint_, heh [01:55] flint_, ogra, you're both rather witty :-) [01:55] pips1, via email would be nice. I am trying to do research on the schooltool project. [01:55] pips1, right now i am trying to remember how tom told me to load sample data. [01:56] flint_: research? huh? [01:56] flint_, try to catch jinty in #ubuntu-devel (he's also here sometimes) he's one of the schooltool devs [01:56] pips1, the deal here is I am trying to build demo servers to deploy. [01:56] flint_: ah [01:56] ogra, yea, i know jinty and srichter and the whole gang... [01:57] ah, k [01:57] pips1, there is almost an institutional backlash. the established computer ITA's are threatened by edubuntu and all it represents. [01:58] pips1, to them it represents less budget and therefore less political power. [01:58] flint_: ITA? [01:58] btw ITA == Information Technology Administators [01:59] Kamping_Kaiser, ITAs are our customers, most do not know it yet. [01:59] i suppose in a way that's me o_0 [02:00] Kamping_Kaiser, it is good to be the customer! what school are you at (I am the marketeer the ITA is my chosen quary :^) [02:01] flint_: i'm not part of any schools directly, but i work with some orgs with thin client networks, and some other groups I'm with are trying to get us (*buntu) into schools [02:01] flint_: who did you talk to regarding edubuntu/schooltool? what ITA's? in the U.S., I suppose? [02:02] Kamping_Kaiser, excellent then you are a fellow marketeer, and I welcome you to the hunt and suggest we join into a band. === irvin_ [n=irvin@203.213.194.64] has joined #edubuntu [02:02] pips1, I have Tom Hoffman who is the author. [02:02] flint_: autor? huh? [02:02] author [02:03] flint_: I'm not sure where you are, but I'm doing stuff in aus, and thers probably several groups we could tap into (if they havent been already) [02:03] Kamping_Kaiser, Hunter - gatherers traditionally gather together to hunt larger quary... [02:03] pips1, author indeed. [02:03] flint_: yes :) === irvin_ is now known as irvin [02:03] Kamping_Kaiser, I am a political refugee from DC currently hiding in Montpelier, Vermont. [02:04] flint_: i take 'your a yank' out of that statement (yank isnt derogatory btw) [02:04] Kamping_Kaiser, there is big game in Australia eh? [02:04] Kamping_Kaiser, no more than say "person of Irish descent" is in Australia :^) [02:04] flint_: I'm can't quite follow what your saying regarding the backlash and I don't understand what you mean by "Tom Hoffman is the author" [02:05] flint_: it's a tough nut to crack one of the states in aus recently had a state goventment leader say 'there will only be ms in schools' [02:05] pips1, I am easily confused, and make this up by being confusing. I thought that Tom Hoffman was working full time on schooltool. I could be wrong. [02:05] brb [02:06] Kamping_Kaiser, 'there will only be ms in schools' that's what I call big game! [02:06] Kamping_Kaiser, go find the guy running for his seat. he is your friend. [02:07] flint_: I think Tom is working extensively on the st project, but I wouldn't know his salary/time agreement ;-) [02:07] flint_: but what is that percieved 'backlash' you mentioned? [02:07] pips1, neither do I. I just whine and bitch to Tom and he comes through for me more often than not. [02:08] flint_: i will put you in touch with people over in vic. if you want. (if you don't know them already), they know about their situation better then me [02:08] pips1, you see the 'there will only be ms in schools' story everywhere. teachers are a conservative lot. what they have works for them. they hate change. [02:09] Kamping_Kaiser, victoria bc? [02:09] flint_: yep [02:09] flint_: that's a bit harsh - it's kinda forced on them [02:09] victoria in Australia, i dunno what yu have over there ;0 [02:09] flint_: you need to make a better "value proposal", otherwise they won't change [02:09] Kamping_Kaiser, we are hunters here, not teachers. [02:10] Kamping_Kaiser, Victoria Australia would be your side of the game preserve... [02:10] thta it be. doesnt mean we cant help each other ;) [02:11] Kamping_Kaiser, about change, that is the whole issue. I do not mean to be harsh, but there is a lot of "circling of the wagons" in the educational area. [02:11] Kamping_Kaiser, that is why i was so happy to announce a good test of Crossover 5.0.1 on Edubuntu BB. you can have your cake and eat it too! [02:12] flint_: I'm still curious to why to come to those conclusions...! Tell us, who is your source! ;-) [02:12] Kamping_Kaiser, Edubuntu is cheap and easy to manage a classfull of. if you do not have to change your curriculum and can continue to teach msword, we are in the classroom. [02:13] arg, ... why *you* come to those conclusions ... [02:13] i have to say i think teaming up with ingots wouldnt hurt us [02:13] rather then teach mso :) [02:13] I was a member of the Arllington Virginia School System Technology Planning Comittee for 10 years... [02:14] That must have been fun! :-) [02:14] pips1, thus I am going with bitter experience as my credential here. I also helped install the Edubuntu systems at Mr. Ranier Md, Yorktown HS, Arlington, and TWSC Alexandria. all of which now rock. [02:15] nice [02:15] pips1, it is like getting you finger nails pulled out by dogs... [02:15] good ;) [02:16] ogra, the crossover thing creates an interesting licensing issue.... [02:16] ogra, also ollie and jonathan, what would happen if you tried crossover on a ppc platform? any idea? guess? [02:17] anyway, i gotta break. will be back. [02:18] ok. later mate === lucychili [n=jhawtin@ppp139-2.lns2.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089D9B3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra_] : Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: March 08 at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | Flight 4 it out ! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/ [02:39] juliux, ping === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #edubuntu [02:56] is the 'edubuntu-desktop' metapackage the same as a workstation install? === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o ogra_ibook] by ChanServ [03:03] if i dist-upgrade does that count as flight 4? [03:07] not really [03:07] flight 4 is a week old === mode/#edubuntu [-o ogra] by ogra [03:10] so dist-upgrade gives you something newer than flight 4 [03:12] ok === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-21-206.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === dsaa [i=dsaa@210.1.83.150] has joined #edubuntu === jeang [n=jeang@dsl-145-21-206.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #edubuntu [] === help [i=dsaa@210.213.86.54] has joined #edubuntu === C-O-L-T [n=hunika@193.231.163.10] has joined #edubuntu === lucasvo_ [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has joined #edubuntu [04:08] ogra, pong === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:28] did i miss anything exciting in our meeting? [04:28] =) === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Adalwolf [i=TOZTWO@dialup-4.253.9.33.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === wastrel [n=wastrel@dsl254-127-242.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:30] how can you use codeblocks in the wiki? [05:31] look at a wikipage that already does it ? [05:31] good one :P === shannara [n=roy@c-24-13-180-92.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:45] Dumb question [05:46] ogra: I have a dumb security question [05:47] ask the question, don't ask to ask === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu [05:50] When I set up k12ltsp the /home directories were secure from each other. Is there a way to improve the security so the ltsp users have access to only what is neccesary? [05:50] On Edubuntu of course [05:55] ogra, ? [05:57] Shannara: checkout https://wiki.edubuntu.org/TeachersPet [06:05] thank. Is teachers pet part of flight4? [06:10] Not Sure. I know that it's still an early version. [06:11] Sounds perfect. I'll give it a shot. Thanks === jinty [n=jinty@196-28-45-102.jhb.netdial.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [06:43] shannara, teachers pet is called student-control-panel in dapper ... teachers pet is just the spec [06:44] shannara, have a look at /etc/profile if you want to change systemwide permissons ... [06:53] ogra, there is a breezy edubuntu dvd right? [06:54] yup [06:54] thanks [07:02] ogra, do you knwo a faster server than cdimage.ubuntu.com for the dvd? [07:02] nope [07:02] you can try the swedish mirror, but i doubt it will be much faster [07:08] Seveas, thanks for that [07:09] Burgwork, thank highvoltage [07:09] if I have Burgwork linked to Burgundavia, will I be able to op with Burgwork? [07:10] yes === mode/#edubuntu [+o Burgwork] by ChanServ [07:11] now how do I unop? [07:11] /deop Burgwork === mode/#edubuntu [-o Burgwork] by Burgwork [07:11] or /msg chanserv op #edubuntu -burgwork [07:11] ah, ok === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === kenth [n=kenth@81-234-129-9-o824.telia.com] has joined #edubuntu === moonbeam [n=moonbeam@d226-71-176.home.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:39] hello [07:40] anyone know what apps in edubuntu are dependent on postgresql? My daughter's computer is crap and I'm trying to lighten the load on it. === kenth [n=kenth@81-234-129-9-o824.telia.com] has left #edubuntu ["Lmnar"] [07:41] moonbeam, I think postgres is only for moodle and schooltool [07:41] good. thanks. I can kill it then :-) [07:42] moonbeam, what kind of install did you do? [07:42] its there only for moodle preparation [07:42] workstation [07:42] or whatever you call the one that isn't server. [07:42] there cant be postgres installed [07:42] its not in the package selection of the workstation install [07:43] moonbeam, did you read the install notes from the channel topic ? [07:43] I could have made a mistake. [07:44] if you have postgres installed you likely made a default (classroom server) install ... [07:44] I read installation notes when I installed a couple days ago. I definitely know not to choose server. [07:44] doesn't mean I didn't choose it anyway. [07:44] default is a server install ... [07:44] you need to explicitly type "workstation" at the cd prompt [07:45] I can strip it down easily enough. just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to nuke anything if I canned postgresql. it's easy to fix things up on this computer than to reinstall from scratch. [07:45] thanks for the info. [07:46] wipe the ltsp stuff, it takes a lot of space [07:46] i.e. sudo rm -r /opt/ltsp/i386 [07:47] thanks. Will do. my daughter is enjoying it. Save me the trouble of trying to get gcompris installed a fedora core 3 system. That was a nightmare. [07:48] heh [07:48] :) [07:49] moonbeam, FC4 is a lost cause, we are trying at work === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:50] my wife and I are using fc3. The installs are still stable - though I had to clean up a messing after attempting to get gcompris installed on one of them. [07:50] but edubuntu I think is going to work well for my daughter. It's a much appreciated distribution [07:50] but.... gotta go - wife has called for a taxi ride. [07:50] thanks [07:50] :) great to hear that [07:50] bye === tsurc [n=alistair@tsurc.force9.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === MotherLUG [n=karin@29.124.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #edubuntu === MotherLUG [n=karin@29.124.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === tsurc [n=alistair@tsurc.force9.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === javiolo [n=javier@84-18-2-229.usul.arrakis.es] has joined #edubuntu [09:36] hi what apps are available to kids from 3 to 6 ? [09:37] javiolo, the gcompris suite is great for that ages [09:37] but looks limited [09:38] I mean theres not too much apps [09:38] some of kde edu stuff is good (any app starting with K) [09:38] what do you recommend me install edubuntu or skolelinux ? [09:38] I have never used skole, so I cannot say anthing either way [09:39] skole is older [09:39] well the system needs to be used by kids of that age [09:40] can I restrict everything ? [09:40] I mean they dont have to use openoffice and most of the apps... [09:41] the menu system is currently just the gnome one, which is not great for kids [09:42] I would create a login for them, then use the menu editor to hide all the applications you don't want them to see/use [09:42] ok [09:42] I want a very simple desktop [09:43] one thing edubuntu is available to mac ppc ? [09:43] in the version of Edubuntu do to be released in April there will also be a tool called pesslus, where you can lockdown the panel [09:43] and other bits of the desktop [09:43] Burgwork but now is possible ? [09:43] you can hide the menu items currently [09:44] there is no stable version of Edubuntu that runs on PPC [09:44] ouch [09:44] big problem [09:45] cos most of the computers are old imacs [09:45] only a few pcs [09:45] the next version of Edubuntu is due to be released on April 20th [09:45] ok [09:47] I think that you should be able to use ppc thin clients with a i386 server with the new version [09:47] I haven't actually tried that [09:47] I would try the Flight 4, just yourself, to see how it works [10:00] burgwork flight 4 ? [10:01] javiolo, the currently alpha of Edubuntu 6.04 [10:09] Burgwork how can I do that ? [10:09] javiolo, download the cd from the place listed in the topic [10:09] grab an old machine and test it on there [10:09] its downloading [10:10] well I mean use it on mac ppc as thin client [10:10] yes [10:10] but I have no idea how to do that === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084E23B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:12] do you recommend dapper or breezy ? [10:12] dapper is not stable yet. [10:12] breezy is the current stable version [10:13] dapper for testing and seeing if you like it, breezy if you are putting it in front of people [10:14] ok [10:14] now Im on breezy === moonbeam [n=moonbeam@d226-71-176.home.cgocable.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:32] HELP_, I have a wierd thing happening now. When I log in as a ltsp client it acts like it is going to login but it goes right back to the login screen. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-71-87-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:40] ogra: help [10:46] anyone? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o Burgwork] by ChanServ === jouni__m [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #edubuntu [10:53] Has everyone left for the day? [10:56] still awake here. [10:58] I have a wierd thing happening now. When I log in as a ltsp client it acts like it is going to login but it goes right back to the login screen [11:01] sorry, can't help. [11:02] From what I can tell it seems to be an issue with the server accepting the login because it fails from ctrl-alt-f1 also. === Adalwulf [i=TOZTWO@dialup-4.227.29.46.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:19] I'm heading out....if you folks need anything, just let us know === lilo [i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin] has left #edubuntu [] === Burgwork [n=corey@d66-183-174-128.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o Burgwork] by ChanServ [11:22] can anyone help me === mode/#edubuntu [-o Burgwork] by Burgwork [11:40] ogra: i have an ltsp client login issue [11:55] bueller [11:57] shannara, what is your problem? [12:00] I have a wierd thing happening now. When I log in as a ltsp client it acts like it is going to login but it goes right back to the login screen. From what I can tell it seems to be an issue with the server accepting the login because it fails from ctrl-alt-f1 also. [12:03] you can try to run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server [12:03] and the reboot the thinclient