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freeflying-ibookRiddell: this is the first one ,so I begain with 10 12:05
RiddellI'd just start at 0112:05
Riddellactually I'd start at kubuntu_0112:05
Riddellso as to make it clear it didn't come from debian12:05
freeflying-ibookRiddell: ok, i'd correct it 12:05
Riddellfreeflying-ibook: no need, I can just change that, otherwise all good, I'll upload12:06
freeflying-ibookRiddell: I hope the guy in debian may accept this 12:06
freeflying-ibookRiddell: r u also a debian DD?12:08
Riddellfreeflying-ibook: no I'm not12:08
Riddellwould like to be but no time12:08
freeflying-ibookhehe12:08
freeflying-ibookRiddell: after you upload skim , I can work on some engine of scim ,for skim's support 12:09
Riddelljust compiling skim before uploading12:10
Riddellfreeflying-ibook: skim uploaded, I left your name in the changelog so let me know if you get an e-mail12:20
freeflying-ibookRiddell: u got mail about skim ?12:20
Riddellfreeflying-ibook: I got a dapper-changes e-mail, haven't got any ACCEPTED e-mail yet though12:21
freeflying-ibookRiddell: lucky,not bug report12:23
freeflying-ibookRiddell: thx so much for your sponsor 12:23
Riddellfreeflying-ibook: scim-chewing looks like it builds?  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/scim-chewing/0.2.1-2build112:24
freeflying-ibookRiddell: I've failed to build in chroot and pbuilder 12:26
freeflying-ibookRiddell: and the build log is at 2005-12-2312:26
Riddellbuilding..12:27
Riddellfreeflying-ibook: yep, your fix corrects that12:34
Riddellfreeflying-ibook: uploading, version number changed to ubuntu1 not build212:34
freeflying-ibookRiddell: :)12:34
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freeflying-ibookRiddell: if you have time now ,plz review the quarry package on revu 12:38
Riddellok12:42
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Riddellfreeflying-ibook: a few issues http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=207001:31
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alleejpatrick ?02:44
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Tm_Tmorning07:07
Hobbseehey Tm_T 07:08
=== Tm_T is tweaking yakuake
Tm_Tthis is ugly07:10
Hobbseepity there's no repo version07:10
Tm_Tcheck again07:10
Hobbseeindeed, very nice07:11
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Tm_T:)07:12
sethyakuake? It's been in Dapper for monhts07:17
sethmonths07:17
Hobbseeoh, ok then07:17
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Tm_TI don't understand all the fuss around it, it's nothing spectacular or even special07:35
Tm_Tjust terminal with ugly default style07:35
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robotgeekTm_T: do you know if Kopete in dapper has Jabber Jingle support07:49
MezTm_T, lol - but it's a highly useful application07:51
MezI'd put it on the same par as I would katapult07:51
Mezand I'm the katapult project leader07:52
Mezor do you think the same about katapult too ?07:52
robotgeekMez: is katapult just a laucher or aimed at quicksilver?07:52
Mezrobotgeek, at the moment a launcher - but if we find quicksilver features we like - we'll incorporate them07:53
Mezwhy - what's it missing you'd like ?07:53
robotgeekMez: hmm, amarok playlist navigation maybe. or konqueror bookmarks (i think this is possible already, i just don't know how)07:54
Mezkonq bookmarks = there07:54
Mezamarok playlist "navigation" ?07:54
Mezyou can make it play a track in amarok07:54
robotgeekMez: quicksilver had some itunes track/playlist stuff. it's been ver a year since i saw OS X, so i am not sure of it exactly07:56
robotgeekalso the ability to actually select a file and upload it to a webserver , in a gui without touching the mouse was just awesome :)07:57
Mezyeah but that'd also need some neat integration with konq08:00
Mezand well...08:00
Mezat the moment .. 08:00
Mezit works in Gnome too ...08:00
Mezbut ... hmm ...08:00
MezI gues that could be something08:00
Mezseeing as it's in Gnome now08:00
robotgeeknice, well lets see how it goes :)08:02
robotgeekanyways, i am off to bed!08:02
Tm_TMez: not more useful than any terminal08:16
Tm_Trobotgeek_zzz: no it doesn't have, jingle support need packages that are not in dapper08:17
MezTm_T, were you on about yakuake or katapult then08:17
MezTm_T, It is just a terminal08:17
Mezbut it has a hot key08:17
Mezso it's there for the simple tasks08:17
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Hobbseewhat's up mornfall|work?08:24
mornfall|worknothing, just bouncing08:24
Hobbsee:)08:25
seaLnetoo much coffee?08:27
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mornfall|worknah08:28
mornfall|workno coffee yet08:28
mornfall|workanyhow i got un-bounced by frozen Xorg08:28
mornfall|worki need to update it to something that does not crash every hour08:28
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cmvomornfall|work: Hi! Which video card to you use? Radeon?09:11
mornfall|worknv driver09:12
cmvoOk, I've got problems with the radeon drm kernel module. As I don't need 3D commeting out dri in xorg.conf helped.09:13
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Hobbseeanyone here who uses msn?09:24
mornfall|workpossibly09:24
LureHobbsee: from Kopete?09:24
HobbseeLure: yes09:24
mornfall|worktoo bad, 09:24 <@root> ivanadanill       ivanadanill@hotmail.com (MSN)             Online09:24
LureHobbsee: you have problems with it?09:24
HobbseeLure: testing out a bug with the auto-away plugin - it seems to bounce out of the away, after teh screen is locked09:26
Hobbseei have a fix for it, and it seems to work from what i see here09:26
LureI do not use lock screen much due to bug with password not being accepted :-(09:28
Hobbseeah09:28
Hobbseewell, it's more to test if i lock the screen - if it shows correctly for you09:28
Hobbsee*adds contact*09:28
HobbseeLure: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/19661 is the bug09:29
LureOK, how can I help testing?09:30
Hobbseewell, the scenario in the past is that it stays idle when the screensaver is locked on the system, yet comes back as online a few seconds later, even while the screen is still locked09:32
Hobbseeso, ie, tell me if i go idle, and stay idle until i message to say that i'm back, and that teh screen is unlocked09:32
LureYou use gmail account for your MSN id?09:33
HobbseeLure: no09:33
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Lureyou are online.09:34
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Tonio_hey09:52
Hobbseehey Tonio_ 09:53
Lurehi Tonio_09:56
Hobbseeack.  no easy way to remove multiple packages by dpkg -r09:56
Lurewhy not using apt-get remove?09:56
Mezapt-get remove --purge *ubuntu*09:59
Mez:-"09:59
Hobbseebecause that means i have to specify all the packages individually10:01
HobbseeLOL @ Mez 10:01
MezHobbsee, apt-get allows wildcards10:02
Mezhow about10:03
Mezls *.deb | cat | cut -f1 -d_ | xargs apt-get remove10:03
Hobbseewhich version is kpdf on all your systems?10:03
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Mez      kpdf | 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages10:03
Mezkdegraphics | 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources10:03
Hobbseeok, good10:03
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MezHobbsee, you gotta love my way of doing it though eh ?10:04
Hobbseeif i understood it, yeah10:04
Mezlol10:04
Hobbseeok, it looks like it's back to normal now :)10:05
Mezwell it says "take all the deb files in this directory and list the filenames" "now make them so they have one filename per line" "now - just output everything in the filenames before the _" "now pass those names as arguments to apt-get remove10:05
Mez.debs are packge_version10:05
Mezso the _ thing works well10:05
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Hobbseeah, right10:05
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seaLneis knewsticker supposed to appear in kontact?10:47
ubijtsa2*yawn*11:30
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ubijtsa2Hobbsee: ta :)11:42
ubijtsa2want me to poke back?11:42
ubijtsa2*grin*11:42
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Hobbseehehe - you'll bruise me!11:42
ubijtsa2*lol*11:43
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RiddellseaLne: it's not yet updated daily by cron, but will be in the next version12:17
Hobbseemorning Riddell 12:17
Riddellmorning Hobbsee 12:17
Hobbseeheh - weird form of morning at 10pm12:18
Hobbseenow...what did i have to tell you....12:18
RiddellseaLne: I believe there's a knewsticker plugin for kontact, but you have to turn it on12:18
seaLneRiddell: oops :)12:18
seaLneRiddell: next version of? dapper+1 or adept or ...12:18
RiddellseaLne: next adept upload12:19
RiddellseaLne: so that entry should really be Fix Committed, then when it's uploaded Fix Released12:19
Riddell(although that's like hassle and stuff)12:19
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hungerRiddell: It's launchpad;-) that's synonymous for hassle and stuff;-)12:20
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Hobbseethis is more dangerous than going clothes shopping!12:20
seaLneHobbsee: i do that all the time but am too indecisive to actually buy anything, been meaning to buy a new hard disk for about 6 months12:21
Hobbseehehe!12:22
hungerHobbsee: Yeap... considered getting a 19" rack the last time I was careless enough to reed such a catalog;-)12:22
Hobbseethis tech shop seems most surprised to find a *girl* walking in there!12:22
Hobbseehehehe!12:22
seaLnemaybe you need to go in disguise12:22
Hobbseemind you, have to go down there anywya, if they managed to ship my blasted battery to the actual shop12:22
Hobbseehehe12:22
Hobbseei dont think that'd be possible...12:22
Hobbseeit's kinda hard for me to dress up as a guy, you know :P12:22
hungerWhat? Girls in techshops? That might make it onto slashdot;-)12:23
Hobbseehehe!12:23
Hobbseesure, especially when they do things like ask where a wireless card is made, as they use linux, and they're made with different chipsets...12:23
hungerHobbsee: Oh, the fun...12:23
hungerHobbsee: my wife does not do that to tech people and she already confuses the heck out of them when she needs something fixed and knows what actually is broken.12:24
hungerHobbsee: And she already disguised that fact by calling our switch "that network thingy";-)12:25
Tonio_other problems with the ksplash theme12:25
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Tonio_doesn't support utf8, nor translations12:26
Tonio_always english.......12:26
hungerTonio_: Oh nice!12:27
Hobbseehehe!12:27
seaLneanyone having problems with k3b hanging?12:28
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Tonio_not as nice, but works fine12:29
hungerTonio_: That would get rid of one more pakage that needs maintaining for 5 years! (or is that for server stuff only?)12:30
hungerActually with all the ubuntu-people trying to reduce main I was surprised that it keapt growing anyway:-(12:31
Tonio_hunger: possible, dunno....12:32
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Riddellamu_: nice how KDE/Kubuntu has 3 tables compared to gnome's 2 :)  http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2006/live/plan.html01:31
Hobbseehehe nice01:32
amu_maybe 2% of all Linuxusers in Germany use the Gnome Desktop, 2 tables are too much for them :D01:42
RiddellHobbsee: you don't need to assign bugs to Kubuntu Beasties as Kubuntu Team should get automatically subscribed to any KDE bugs by default01:42
Hobbseeoh01:43
Riddellalso I'm not sure what the Kubuntu Beasties group is anyway01:43
Hobbseedont know, but that's where i grabbed the old bug list off that i was fixing from...01:43
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Riddellooh, GNU/Linux User and Developer wants to put amu's live CD as their cover CD :)01:43
RiddellHobbsee: sure you didn't get it from kubuntu-team not kubuntu-devel?01:44
Riddellkubuntu-devel should be deleted 01:44
amu_Riddell: Kubuntu Beasties group?01:44
Hobbseeum....i dont remember01:44
Hobbseei think i looked up one of the groups, and saw the bugs assigned to them01:44
Hobbseedoes seem a bit weird that we have two groups though, and still some that are unassigned01:44
Riddellamu_: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-devel  given the name I suppose I must have made it at some point but it's redundant01:45
freeflyingRiddell: what's the meaning of "Beasties'01:47
Riddellfreeflying: Scots for insect ("bugs" is American English for insect)01:48
amu_Riddell: :D another step into world domination *g*   01:48
Hobbseehehe01:49
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freeflyingRiddell: why call Kubuntu-Beasties  :)01:49
Riddellfreeflying: no idea, I have no memory of creating the group so I must have been sleep walking at the time or something :)01:50
Riddelland teams in launchpad can't be deleted or merged 01:50
freeflyinghmmm01:50
RiddellHobbsee: change it yourself and it will be :)01:50
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RiddellHobbsee: change wiki page, e-mail fridge-devel, send announcement to kubuntu-devel list01:51
Hobbseeokay01:51
amu_Riddell: i've still problems using launchpad, cause it isnt free software 01:52
freeflyingamu_: seems u can use it freely , hmmm01:54
Riddellamu_: most people do01:54
Riddellamu_: lots of questions about that to jdub at FOSDEM01:54
amu_freeflying: sure, thatC different01:55
freeflyingamu_: I see, but that is the fact it is now 01:56
amu_Riddell: i imagine, there will be much more in feature. 01:56
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amu_freeflying: maybe i'm too radical, it can be, software should be free, if not dont use it. If noone use it, it will die.01:58
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freeflyingamu_: I totally agree with u , and also I hope one day , people in our country can do like u , then linux will have a splendid future02:00
amu_if the software isnt free, you cannot do things like the great KDE Desktop, LiveCD .... 02:00
amu_freeflying: correct, it's just a question of lobbing the responsable people, sending news about great, new ideas, share your ideas with others, free software is so flexible, you can do great things, its just a question of time when we own those vampires :)02:03
amu_freeflying: btw. you're happy with your livecd, i didnt got any feedback from y 02:04
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freeflyingamu_: I just want to tell u , i wanna it can support chinese , but it dosen't02:05
amu_freeflying: hmm, what is the problem? Is it possible to add this CD to an chinese linuxmagazine? that billion other know/lern about KDE/Kubuntu ? 02:07
freeflyingamu_: but it can not support chines ,no chinese input method , no chinese fonts, how can people in our country use it ?02:08
freeflyingamu_: http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24135002:09
amu_freeflying: if i invest some more time and get your help, that should be possible02:10
freeflyingamu_: I'd like to 02:10
freeflyingamu_: what shall I do for you then , I hope we can have a better chinese support livecd with kde+koffice02:11
amu_freeflying: saw the page but have huge trouble to read it :) 02:14
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freeflyingamu_: Im looking for test , but it haven't chinese support02:15
amu_freeflying: let start it like this, i'll configure it by hand that it will start only in chinese02:16
freeflyingamu_: need I do what ?02:16
amu_what do you mean with haven't chinese  support ? it starts in german? 02:16
amu_or in english? 02:17
freeflyingamu_: no chinese fonts, so people can not read anything in chinese02:17
amu_ok, can be i probably forgot the chinese fonts02:18
amu_are you familar with packaging debs?02:18
freeflyingamu_: so lets make it better in dapper's livecd 02:18
freeflyingamu_: I have package some 02:18
amu_freeflying: the liveCD is fine and works, for enduser it doesnt matter if they use dapper hoary warty brezzy whatever  02:20
freeflyingamu_: I hope we can provide one based upon dapper , with koffice 02:21
amu_freeflying: i use the stable breezy with a huge success, if you need now something i can help you02:22
amu_freeflying: fantastic, could you add all needed packages in 1 metapackage? 02:23
freeflyingamu_: the structure of dapper livecd has big deiffernce from breezy 02:23
freeflyingamu_: ok02:24
amu_freeflying: and it's still beta, untested :) probably 6-7 month later if a lot of people use it, you know the special problems02:24
amu_all my cd, for magazine, usersgroups are basded on breezy it just works02:25
freeflyingamu_: how do you do these thing , manually or using scripts?02:25
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amu_thats the magic, i'm sure dapper is good, rule no.1 is, no experiments :) you loose 100% people who boots the CD ex. if your browser crases02:27
amu_by scripts02:27
amu_freeflying: as i remember i installed the kde-lang packages for chinese support, what you do now if install everything in addition to get a complete KDE Desktop in Chinese lang02:28
amu_note down, what you extra installed in order it looks like it has to be, DOCUMENT this process02:29
amu_build a set of needed packages, a meta pack, OR let me know those additional packages and i do it for myself02:30
freeflyingamu_: u just need add the chinese font and input method 02:30
freeflyingamu_: in dapper , I just need some configure for the fontconfig02:30
freeflyingand install input method's module , everything is ok02:31
amu_freeflying: ok, our deal is this, contact a linuxmagazine. or computer magazine and offer them a "special kubuntu CD" for free 02:31
freeflyingamu_: I can do it , but how can I get those CD02:31
amu_freeflying: gimme some days02:32
amu_days = i've to work in my job, doing it in my free time :)02:32
amu_freeflying: cool, so you offer then a cool kubuntu CD which is based on the rocking KDE Desktop, sounds good, if they release it please send me a copy of the magazine 02:33
freeflyingamu_: sure ,but we'd provide them all CDs02:35
freeflyingamu_: hmmm02:35
amu_freeflying: ? here it's normal, magazines give away their CD's for free 02:36
amu_freeflying: they are so thankfull if someone do THEIR job building images 02:37
amu_s/someone/someone other02:37
freeflyingamu_: If we want magazine ship with CD, we'd provide them all CDs02:37
freeflyingamu_: so , we may ask for sponsonr from canonical ,  :)02:38
amu_freeflying: i c, in Europe it's different, there are sooo many of magazines, its difficult to find a magazine without CD :) 02:38
freeflyingamu_: ya, it's quite diffenrent from you 02:39
amu_freeflying: thats your part asking canonical :)02:39
freeflyingamu_: maybe it's Riddell's lol02:40
amu_ok, your task get now my highest priority 02:41
amu_there's nothing which is more important, building a CD for billions of users 02:42
amu_sending them our KDE love 02:42
freeflyingamu_: yep02:43
amu_freeflying: maybe a good time for asking, i'm not sure if M.S. is still in Asia? 02:43
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freeflyingamu_: mark shall be back 02:43
amu_freeflying: it's better ask for a such a thing now, than later :) explain him you wanna send a special Kubuntu to billions, please send me your cheque 02:45
amu_:D 02:45
freeflyingamu_: lol02:45
amu_just joking, just eplain him what you want to do and what you need. 02:46
RiddellMark is back in London02:46
freeflyingI've writen him about the advacation of ubuntu in china ,but still no reply now02:46
freeflyingRiddell: I'd ask you for cheque firstly   hmmm:)02:47
amu_freeflying: forward it to Riddell :) and btw. dont tell jdub about your idea :) 02:47
freeflyingamu_: who is jdub02:48
freeflyingRiddell: need forward it u ?02:48
Riddellfreeflying: I'm not sure what I can do02:48
amu_freeflying: one of the important people using this ugly brown desktop :)02:49
freeflyingRiddell: you can recommend us to mark  :)02:50
Riddell"please reply to freeflying's e-mail" :)02:51
freeflyinglol02:51
amu_freeflying: the best solution is, if you poke Riddell about his private secret telefonnumber ;) 02:52
freeflyingamu_: then u may do it  :)02:53
amu_Riddell: do you know is there a Xgl ready2run soluion for dapper atm?  02:54
hungerXgl is no ready2run solution.02:54
amu_freeflying: hehe, i guess he cant remember me02:54
Riddellamu_: there are testing packages for gnome, kde ones are empty though02:55
amu_hunger: i saw on the susedesktop it works [tm] 02:55
freeflyingRiddell: I think kubuntu shall use beagle as our indexing-search 02:56
amu_Riddell: another possibility is i reband suse desktop and tell poeple thats the new kubuntu desktop :)  02:56
amu_s/reband/rebrand02:56
hungeramu_: The guy that presented it at fosdem said it is a research project only.02:56
hungeramu_: The cool part is compiz anyway;-)02:57
amu_hunger: ic, so better it's i change the suse wallpapers/splases with ours :) 02:59
amu_anyway i've to work now ... cheers 02:59
Riddellamu_: even the suse using KDE people will have to run it with gnome window manager for Xgl demo03:01
hungerRiddell: and you need gconf to configure it, too:-(03:02
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freeflyingRiddell: dose debian accept the immodule patch for qt ?03:25
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Riddellfreeflying: yes, it's in their SVN03:26
Riddellmay even be uploaded, not sure03:27
freeflyingRiddell: then I may file an ITP for scim-qtimm on b. d. o ?03:27
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jjessei know this isn't a support channel but no one on #kubuntu can help me: is there any way to get printing working in dapper?  says i can't connecto to cups 03:29
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RiddellamU: what is that background you used on the live CD?03:39
Riddelljjesse: if you ignore the cups error message it mostly works03:40
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jjesseRiddell: can't add a printer 03:43
jjesseso i can't print03:43
Riddellhmm, bummer03:44
Riddellgnome-cups-thing works for now03:44
RiddellI'll probably need to make cups 1.1 pacakges if kde doesn't start working for cups 1.2 soon03:45
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alleeRiddell: which kde guys did you pester upstream?  Which malone bugs?  More administration or user problem?05:09
Riddellallee: with respect to what?05:12
alleecups05:12
Riddellhttp://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-print-devel&m=113294211631555&w=205:13
Riddellhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11589105:14
alleeRiddell: can't we use localhost:63105:15
Riddellallee: no, cups doesn't listen on tcp by default in ubuntu (no open ports policy)05:17
Riddellunless it listens on loopback and not real network or something05:17
alleeRiddell: isn't localhost an exception to no open ports?05:17
alleewell, localhost is loopback ;)05:18
Riddellhmm, actually looks like cups does listen on localhost by default05:19
Riddellbut even using localhost I get Connection to CUPS server failed.05:20
alleeRiddell: at least for cups 1.1 clientside: if nothing given in CUPS_PRINTER, /etc/cups/client.conf or comand line was given, fallback was localhost:63105:20
Riddellallee: well does setting KDE to use localhost work for you?05:21
alleeallee: I never had to set anything with a local cupsd running.  When I only use the lp* clientstools I modified client.conf05:22
alleeRiddell: but for test I set cups server in print dialog and it worked (last time maybe 2 month ago)05:22
alleeallee: only cups client side usage problem I'm aware of is that sometimes cupsd uses <queue>, sometimes <queue>@<cups-server-with-out-domain>05:24
Riddelltalking to yourself :)05:25
Riddellwell it definatly doesn't work for me "Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason."05:26
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Tm_Thmm06:02
Tm_TI think I package ortp and Kopete-jingle06:02
Tm_Tas soon as 0.12 beta comes out, prolly in next week06:02
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_SimeRiddell: guidance 0.6.2 is up on the site. http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/08:39
Lure_Sime: can you look bug 2617508:40
Lureit seems that userconfig breaks unlock from screensaver08:40
Riddell_Sime: great08:40
Riddell_Sime: can the DPI be set in displayconfig?08:40
robotgeekSystem Settings -> Storage Media has no service for Blank CD/DVD, is this intentional08:42
robotgeeki'm asking cause i am doing Documentation, and I need to finish the section on "Burning CD's"08:46
_SimeLure: next version ;)08:54
_SimeRiddell: DPI => no, that would break FF. ;-)08:54
Lure_Sime: OK, just that you are aware of it.08:56
Lure_Sime: DPI -> it would also solve bug 25656 (it is a matter of perspective ;-))08:57
Lure_Sime: and thanks for 0.6.2 - changelog looks very promising - looking forward08:59
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incineratorping Riddell09:14
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Riddellincinerator: hi09:18
incineratoryou pinged me about the meeting yesterday, but then i went afk....09:18
Riddellrobotgeek: I think the author has good reasons to have it that way09:18
Riddellincinerator: just trying to put a face to your nick :)09:18
incineratorit's me, Dominik, the German09:19
incinerator;-)09:19
incineratorBtw, we will need some Ubuntu/Kubuntu CDs for both events, if you can bring some along....09:19
Riddellincinerator: are you going to the install days?09:19
incineratorwell, I'm organising them, I'd better go along, as well ggg09:20
Riddellcool :)09:20
RiddellI can't make them unfortunatly09:20
Riddellbut I'll bring a box of Kubuntu CDs and some Open CDs tomorrow09:20
incineratoryay, if you happen to have some Ubuntu ones, as well....09:20
RiddellI don't09:21
incineratornevermind, Sean has some of those I think09:22
nlindbladouch09:26
nlindbladthis is not good09:26
nlindbladlindblad@insomnia:~$ ls09:26
nlindbladls: relocation error: ls: symbol __guard, version GLIBC_2.3.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference09:26
incineratorbtw, I'm running your kde 3.5.1 breezy packages on my laptop just now, seems to work fine09:26
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robotgeekRiddell: hmm, okay. So, it will not popup a "Burn CD" dialog. 09:54
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Riddellraphink: does setting cups to localhost work for you?10:39
raphinkRiddell: nope10:51
raphinkRiddell: I just upgraded a few minutes ago and now it works10:51
raphinkRiddell: I'm trying to find what package might have fixed it10:51
raphinkRiddell: that's weird ...10:55
raphinkbut it works :) so I won't complain10:55
Riddellyes, it's a bit like that10:58
nlindbladhow come I get that error?10:59
raphinknlindblad: ?11:01
nlindbladnlindblad@insomnia:~$ ls11:01
nlindbladls: relocation error: ls: symbol __guard, version GLIBC_2.3.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference11:01
raphinkhmm interesting bug11:01
nlindbladindeed11:02
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nlindbladshould I be worried?11:10
raphinkdoes it happen in all dirs ?11:10
nlindbladyes, and it's not only ls11:10
raphinkwhat else?11:10
nlindbladseems like everything using libc is broken11:10
nlindbladroot can do things fine though11:11
raphinkwhat distro do you use ? dapper?11:11
nlindbladyes11:11
raphinkis it up-to-date?11:11
nlindbladyes11:12
raphinkhmmm11:12
raphinkwell did you report the bug?11:12
nlindbladnot yet, I'll do that tomorrow11:13
nlindbladshould have gone to bed hours ago11:13
raphinkok11:13
Lurenlindblad: is this just warning message or does "ls" fail completely11:14
nlindbladit dies11:15
LureI would be concerned that machine would not boot anymore after shutdown11:15
nlindbladhmm11:16
Luredo you have libc6-i686 installed?11:16
nlindbladno idea11:16
nlindbladhow do I look using apt11:16
Luredpkg -S libc.so.6 11:16
Luredpkg -l | grep libc6  11:17
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nlindbladyeah11:21
nlindbladit's installed11:21
Lurewhich version?11:25
nlindblad2.3.611:27
LureIf you google for symbol __guard, you can see it is some stack violation11:27
Lureyou should submit a bug for sure - this sounds critical11:28
Luredo you have selinux?11:30
Lurehttp://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2004/09/msg00105.html11:33
LureI have to get some sleep now... ;-)11:33
LureBye evrybody11:34
raphinkRiddell: are you there?11:58
Riddellraphink: hi12:03
raphink:)12:03
Riddellalways here for you baby12:03
raphinkRiddell: I'm working on the libxine-extracodecs stuff12:03
raphinknow there's a slight issue imo12:03
raphinkI can have it in adept_installer quite easily12:03

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