[12:05] Riddell: this is the first one ,so I begain with 10 [12:05] I'd just start at 01 [12:05] actually I'd start at kubuntu_01 [12:05] so as to make it clear it didn't come from debian [12:05] Riddell: ok, i'd correct it [12:06] freeflying-ibook: no need, I can just change that, otherwise all good, I'll upload [12:06] Riddell: I hope the guy in debian may accept this [12:08] Riddell: r u also a debian DD? [12:08] freeflying-ibook: no I'm not [12:08] would like to be but no time [12:08] hehe [12:09] Riddell: after you upload skim , I can work on some engine of scim ,for skim's support [12:10] just compiling skim before uploading [12:20] freeflying-ibook: skim uploaded, I left your name in the changelog so let me know if you get an e-mail [12:20] Riddell: u got mail about skim ? [12:21] freeflying-ibook: I got a dapper-changes e-mail, haven't got any ACCEPTED e-mail yet though [12:23] Riddell: lucky,not bug report [12:23] Riddell: thx so much for your sponsor [12:24] freeflying-ibook: scim-chewing looks like it builds? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/scim-chewing/0.2.1-2build1 [12:26] Riddell: I've failed to build in chroot and pbuilder [12:26] Riddell: and the build log is at 2005-12-23 [12:27] building.. [12:34] freeflying-ibook: yep, your fix corrects that [12:34] freeflying-ibook: uploading, version number changed to ubuntu1 not build2 [12:34] Riddell: :) === robotgeek removes hilight from "ibook" [12:38] Riddell: if you have time now ,plz review the quarry package on revu [12:42] ok === kmon [n=javier@217.Red-80-25-51.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock is now known as LaserJock_away === bobesponja [i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bobesponja [i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] freeflying-ibook: a few issues http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2070 === Riddell beds === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.251] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:44] jpatrick ? === LaserJock_away is now known as LaserJock === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=mez@81-179-71-213.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:07] morning [07:08] hey Tm_T === Tm_T is tweaking yakuake [07:10] this is ugly [07:10] pity there's no repo version [07:10] check again [07:11] indeed, very nice === Hobbsee thougth it was stuck in revu still [07:12] :) [07:17] yakuake? It's been in Dapper for monhts [07:17] months [07:17] oh, ok then === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:35] I don't understand all the fuss around it, it's nothing spectacular or even special [07:35] just terminal with ugly default style === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:49] Tm_T: do you know if Kopete in dapper has Jabber Jingle support [07:51] Tm_T, lol - but it's a highly useful application [07:51] I'd put it on the same par as I would katapult [07:52] and I'm the katapult project leader [07:52] or do you think the same about katapult too ? [07:52] Mez: is katapult just a laucher or aimed at quicksilver? [07:53] robotgeek, at the moment a launcher - but if we find quicksilver features we like - we'll incorporate them [07:53] why - what's it missing you'd like ? [07:54] Mez: hmm, amarok playlist navigation maybe. or konqueror bookmarks (i think this is possible already, i just don't know how) [07:54] konq bookmarks = there [07:54] amarok playlist "navigation" ? [07:54] you can make it play a track in amarok [07:56] Mez: quicksilver had some itunes track/playlist stuff. it's been ver a year since i saw OS X, so i am not sure of it exactly [07:57] also the ability to actually select a file and upload it to a webserver , in a gui without touching the mouse was just awesome :) [08:00] yeah but that'd also need some neat integration with konq [08:00] and well... [08:00] at the moment .. [08:00] it works in Gnome too ... [08:00] but ... hmm ... [08:00] I gues that could be something [08:00] seeing as it's in Gnome now [08:02] nice, well lets see how it goes :) [08:02] anyways, i am off to bed! [08:16] Mez: not more useful than any terminal [08:17] robotgeek_zzz: no it doesn't have, jingle support need packages that are not in dapper [08:17] Tm_T, were you on about yakuake or katapult then [08:17] Tm_T, It is just a terminal [08:17] but it has a hot key [08:17] so it's there for the simple tasks === mornfall|work bounces [08:24] what's up mornfall|work? [08:24] nothing, just bouncing [08:25] :) [08:27] too much coffee? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:28] nah [08:28] no coffee yet [08:28] anyhow i got un-bounced by frozen Xorg [08:28] i need to update it to something that does not crash every hour === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:11] mornfall|work: Hi! Which video card to you use? Radeon? [09:12] nv driver [09:13] Ok, I've got problems with the radeon drm kernel module. As I don't need 3D commeting out dri in xorg.conf helped. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:24] anyone here who uses msn? [09:24] possibly [09:24] Hobbsee: from Kopete? [09:24] Lure: yes [09:24] too bad, 09:24 <@root> ivanadanill ivanadanill@hotmail.com (MSN) Online [09:24] Hobbsee: you have problems with it? [09:26] Lure: testing out a bug with the auto-away plugin - it seems to bounce out of the away, after teh screen is locked [09:26] i have a fix for it, and it seems to work from what i see here [09:28] I do not use lock screen much due to bug with password not being accepted :-( [09:28] ah [09:28] well, it's more to test if i lock the screen - if it shows correctly for you [09:28] *adds contact* [09:29] Lure: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/19661 is the bug [09:30] OK, how can I help testing? [09:32] well, the scenario in the past is that it stays idle when the screensaver is locked on the system, yet comes back as online a few seconds later, even while the screen is still locked [09:32] so, ie, tell me if i go idle, and stay idle until i message to say that i'm back, and that teh screen is unlocked [09:33] You use gmail account for your MSN id? [09:33] Lure: no === Hobbsee PM's address [09:34] you are online. === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:52] hey [09:53] hey Tonio_ [09:56] hi Tonio_ [09:56] ack. no easy way to remove multiple packages by dpkg -r [09:56] why not using apt-get remove? [09:59] apt-get remove --purge *ubuntu* [09:59] :-" [10:01] because that means i have to specify all the packages individually [10:01] LOL @ Mez [10:02] Hobbsee, apt-get allows wildcards [10:03] how about [10:03] ls *.deb | cat | cut -f1 -d_ | xargs apt-get remove [10:03] which version is kpdf on all your systems? === Hobbsee has done it manually now [10:03] kpdf | 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages [10:03] kdegraphics | 4:3.5.1-0ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Sources [10:03] ok, good === Mez loves /exec -o [10:04] Hobbsee, you gotta love my way of doing it though eh ? [10:04] if i understood it, yeah [10:04] lol [10:05] ok, it looks like it's back to normal now :) [10:05] well it says "take all the deb files in this directory and list the filenames" "now make them so they have one filename per line" "now - just output everything in the filenames before the _" "now pass those names as arguments to apt-get remove [10:05] .debs are packge_version [10:05] so the _ thing works well === Mez loves linux for the ability to do things like that [10:05] ah, right === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] is knewsticker supposed to appear in kontact? [11:30] *yawn* === Hobbsee pokes ubijtsa2 to wake him up [11:42] Hobbsee: ta :) [11:42] want me to poke back? [11:42] *grin* === Hobbsee throws a bucket of water on him as well [11:42] hehe - you'll bruise me! [11:43] *lol* === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:17] seaLne: it's not yet updated daily by cron, but will be in the next version [12:17] morning Riddell [12:17] morning Hobbsee [12:18] heh - weird form of morning at 10pm [12:18] now...what did i have to tell you.... [12:18] seaLne: I believe there's a knewsticker plugin for kontact, but you have to turn it on [12:18] Riddell: oops :) [12:18] Riddell: next version of? dapper+1 or adept or ... [12:19] seaLne: next adept upload [12:19] seaLne: so that entry should really be Fix Committed, then when it's uploaded Fix Released [12:19] (although that's like hassle and stuff) === seaLne thinks the status names are crap in lp [12:20] Riddell: It's launchpad;-) that's synonymous for hassle and stuff;-) === Hobbsee browses through the computer shop catalog... [12:20] this is more dangerous than going clothes shopping! [12:21] Hobbsee: i do that all the time but am too indecisive to actually buy anything, been meaning to buy a new hard disk for about 6 months [12:22] hehe! [12:22] Hobbsee: Yeap... considered getting a 19" rack the last time I was careless enough to reed such a catalog;-) [12:22] this tech shop seems most surprised to find a *girl* walking in there! [12:22] hehehe! [12:22] maybe you need to go in disguise [12:22] mind you, have to go down there anywya, if they managed to ship my blasted battery to the actual shop [12:22] hehe [12:22] i dont think that'd be possible... [12:22] it's kinda hard for me to dress up as a guy, you know :P [12:23] What? Girls in techshops? That might make it onto slashdot;-) [12:23] hehe! [12:23] sure, especially when they do things like ask where a wireless card is made, as they use linux, and they're made with different chipsets... [12:23] Hobbsee: Oh, the fun... [12:24] Hobbsee: my wife does not do that to tech people and she already confuses the heck out of them when she needs something fixed and knows what actually is broken. [12:25] Hobbsee: And she already disguised that fact by calling our switch "that network thingy";-) [12:25] other problems with the ksplash theme === hua [n=hua@222.50.182.105] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:26] doesn't support utf8, nor translations [12:26] always english....... [12:27] Tonio_: Oh nice! [12:27] hehe! [12:28] anyone having problems with k3b hanging? === Tonio_ really things about porting that theme to the default engine......... [12:29] not as nice, but works fine [12:30] Tonio_: That would get rid of one more pakage that needs maintaining for 5 years! (or is that for server stuff only?) [12:31] Actually with all the ubuntu-people trying to reduce main I was surprised that it keapt growing anyway:-( [12:32] hunger: possible, dunno.... === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:31] amu_: nice how KDE/Kubuntu has 3 tables compared to gnome's 2 :) http://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2006/live/plan.html [01:32] hehe nice [01:42] maybe 2% of all Linuxusers in Germany use the Gnome Desktop, 2 tables are too much for them :D [01:42] Hobbsee: you don't need to assign bugs to Kubuntu Beasties as Kubuntu Team should get automatically subscribed to any KDE bugs by default [01:43] oh [01:43] also I'm not sure what the Kubuntu Beasties group is anyway [01:43] dont know, but that's where i grabbed the old bug list off that i was fixing from... === Hobbsee is brain dead [01:43] ooh, GNU/Linux User and Developer wants to put amu's live CD as their cover CD :) [01:44] Hobbsee: sure you didn't get it from kubuntu-team not kubuntu-devel? [01:44] kubuntu-devel should be deleted [01:44] Riddell: Kubuntu Beasties group? [01:44] um....i dont remember [01:44] i think i looked up one of the groups, and saw the bugs assigned to them [01:44] does seem a bit weird that we have two groups though, and still some that are unassigned [01:45] amu_: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-devel given the name I suppose I must have made it at some point but it's redundant [01:47] Riddell: what's the meaning of "Beasties' [01:48] freeflying: Scots for insect ("bugs" is American English for insect) [01:48] Riddell: :D another step into world domination *g* [01:49] hehe === Hobbsee shuts up before she screws up even more stuff === Hobbsee hopes that meeting did get changed [01:49] Riddell: why call Kubuntu-Beasties :) [01:50] freeflying: no idea, I have no memory of creating the group so I must have been sleep walking at the time or something :) [01:50] and teams in launchpad can't be deleted or merged [01:50] hmmm [01:50] Hobbsee: change it yourself and it will be :) === Hobbsee goes to look where to change it [01:51] Hobbsee: change wiki page, e-mail fridge-devel, send announcement to kubuntu-devel list [01:51] okay [01:52] Riddell: i've still problems using launchpad, cause it isnt free software [01:54] amu_: seems u can use it freely , hmmm [01:54] amu_: most people do [01:54] amu_: lots of questions about that to jdub at FOSDEM [01:55] freeflying: sure, thatC different [01:56] amu_: I see, but that is the fact it is now [01:56] Riddell: i imagine, there will be much more in feature. === ubijtsa2 [n=anders@213.208.70.155] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:58] freeflying: maybe i'm too radical, it can be, software should be free, if not dont use it. If noone use it, it will die. === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F4EF7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] amu_: I totally agree with u , and also I hope one day , people in our country can do like u , then linux will have a splendid future [02:00] if the software isnt free, you cannot do things like the great KDE Desktop, LiveCD .... [02:03] freeflying: correct, it's just a question of lobbing the responsable people, sending news about great, new ideas, share your ideas with others, free software is so flexible, you can do great things, its just a question of time when we own those vampires :) [02:04] freeflying: btw. you're happy with your livecd, i didnt got any feedback from y === Hobbsee falls asleep on her keyboard [02:05] amu_: I just want to tell u , i wanna it can support chinese , but it dosen't [02:07] freeflying: hmm, what is the problem? Is it possible to add this CD to an chinese linuxmagazine? that billion other know/lern about KDE/Kubuntu ? [02:08] amu_: but it can not support chines ,no chinese input method , no chinese fonts, how can people in our country use it ? [02:09] amu_: http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=241350 [02:10] freeflying: if i invest some more time and get your help, that should be possible [02:10] amu_: I'd like to [02:11] amu_: what shall I do for you then , I hope we can have a better chinese support livecd with kde+koffice [02:14] freeflying: saw the page but have huge trouble to read it :) === hunger [n=tobias@p54A62494.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] amu_: Im looking for test , but it haven't chinese support [02:16] freeflying: let start it like this, i'll configure it by hand that it will start only in chinese [02:16] amu_: need I do what ? [02:16] what do you mean with haven't chinese support ? it starts in german? [02:17] or in english? [02:17] amu_: no chinese fonts, so people can not read anything in chinese [02:18] ok, can be i probably forgot the chinese fonts [02:18] are you familar with packaging debs? [02:18] amu_: so lets make it better in dapper's livecd [02:18] amu_: I have package some [02:20] freeflying: the liveCD is fine and works, for enduser it doesnt matter if they use dapper hoary warty brezzy whatever [02:21] amu_: I hope we can provide one based upon dapper , with koffice [02:22] freeflying: i use the stable breezy with a huge success, if you need now something i can help you [02:23] freeflying: fantastic, could you add all needed packages in 1 metapackage? [02:23] amu_: the structure of dapper livecd has big deiffernce from breezy [02:24] amu_: ok [02:24] freeflying: and it's still beta, untested :) probably 6-7 month later if a lot of people use it, you know the special problems [02:25] all my cd, for magazine, usersgroups are basded on breezy it just works [02:25] amu_: how do you do these thing , manually or using scripts? === ubijtsa2 [n=anders@213.208.70.155] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] thats the magic, i'm sure dapper is good, rule no.1 is, no experiments :) you loose 100% people who boots the CD ex. if your browser crases [02:27] by scripts [02:28] freeflying: as i remember i installed the kde-lang packages for chinese support, what you do now if install everything in addition to get a complete KDE Desktop in Chinese lang [02:29] note down, what you extra installed in order it looks like it has to be, DOCUMENT this process [02:30] build a set of needed packages, a meta pack, OR let me know those additional packages and i do it for myself [02:30] amu_: u just need add the chinese font and input method [02:30] amu_: in dapper , I just need some configure for the fontconfig [02:31] and install input method's module , everything is ok [02:31] freeflying: ok, our deal is this, contact a linuxmagazine. or computer magazine and offer them a "special kubuntu CD" for free [02:31] amu_: I can do it , but how can I get those CD [02:32] freeflying: gimme some days [02:32] days = i've to work in my job, doing it in my free time :) [02:33] freeflying: cool, so you offer then a cool kubuntu CD which is based on the rocking KDE Desktop, sounds good, if they release it please send me a copy of the magazine [02:35] amu_: sure ,but we'd provide them all CDs [02:35] amu_: hmmm [02:36] freeflying: ? here it's normal, magazines give away their CD's for free [02:37] freeflying: they are so thankfull if someone do THEIR job building images [02:37] s/someone/someone other [02:37] amu_: If we want magazine ship with CD, we'd provide them all CDs [02:38] amu_: so , we may ask for sponsonr from canonical , :) [02:38] freeflying: i c, in Europe it's different, there are sooo many of magazines, its difficult to find a magazine without CD :) [02:39] amu_: ya, it's quite diffenrent from you [02:39] freeflying: thats your part asking canonical :) [02:40] amu_: maybe it's Riddell's lol [02:41] ok, your task get now my highest priority [02:42] there's nothing which is more important, building a CD for billions of users [02:42] sending them our KDE love [02:43] amu_: yep [02:43] freeflying: maybe a good time for asking, i'm not sure if M.S. is still in Asia? === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:43] amu_: mark shall be back [02:45] freeflying: it's better ask for a such a thing now, than later :) explain him you wanna send a special Kubuntu to billions, please send me your cheque [02:45] :D [02:45] amu_: lol [02:46] just joking, just eplain him what you want to do and what you need. [02:46] Mark is back in London [02:46] I've writen him about the advacation of ubuntu in china ,but still no reply now [02:47] Riddell: I'd ask you for cheque firstly hmmm:) [02:47] freeflying: forward it to Riddell :) and btw. dont tell jdub about your idea :) [02:48] amu_: who is jdub [02:48] Riddell: need forward it u ? [02:48] freeflying: I'm not sure what I can do [02:49] freeflying: one of the important people using this ugly brown desktop :) [02:50] Riddell: you can recommend us to mark :) [02:51] "please reply to freeflying's e-mail" :) [02:51] lol [02:52] freeflying: the best solution is, if you poke Riddell about his private secret telefonnumber ;) [02:53] amu_: then u may do it :) [02:54] Riddell: do you know is there a Xgl ready2run soluion for dapper atm? [02:54] Xgl is no ready2run solution. [02:54] freeflying: hehe, i guess he cant remember me [02:55] amu_: there are testing packages for gnome, kde ones are empty though [02:55] hunger: i saw on the susedesktop it works [tm] [02:56] Riddell: I think kubuntu shall use beagle as our indexing-search [02:56] Riddell: another possibility is i reband suse desktop and tell poeple thats the new kubuntu desktop :) [02:56] s/reband/rebrand [02:56] amu_: The guy that presented it at fosdem said it is a research project only. [02:57] amu_: The cool part is compiz anyway;-) [02:59] hunger: ic, so better it's i change the suse wallpapers/splases with ours :) [02:59] anyway i've to work now ... cheers [03:01] amu_: even the suse using KDE people will have to run it with gnome window manager for Xgl demo [03:02] Riddell: and you need gconf to configure it, too:-( === faked [n=faked@85-124-44-241.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === amu_ is now known as amu === amu is now known as amU === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:25] Riddell: dose debian accept the immodule patch for qt ? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:26] freeflying: yes, it's in their SVN [03:27] may even be uploaded, not sure [03:27] Riddell: then I may file an ITP for scim-qtimm on b. d. o ? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:29] i know this isn't a support channel but no one on #kubuntu can help me: is there any way to get printing working in dapper? says i can't connecto to cups === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] amU: what is that background you used on the live CD? [03:40] jjesse: if you ignore the cups error message it mostly works === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:43] Riddell: can't add a printer [03:43] so i can't print [03:44] hmm, bummer [03:44] gnome-cups-thing works for now [03:45] I'll probably need to make cups 1.1 pacakges if kde doesn't start working for cups 1.2 soon === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@85-124-44-241.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D3A63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@83-65-237-122.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa_ [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:09] Riddell: which kde guys did you pester upstream? Which malone bugs? More administration or user problem? [05:12] allee: with respect to what? [05:12] cups [05:13] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-print-devel&m=113294211631555&w=2 [05:14] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115891 [05:15] Riddell: can't we use localhost:631 [05:17] allee: no, cups doesn't listen on tcp by default in ubuntu (no open ports policy) [05:17] unless it listens on loopback and not real network or something [05:17] Riddell: isn't localhost an exception to no open ports? [05:18] well, localhost is loopback ;) [05:19] hmm, actually looks like cups does listen on localhost by default [05:20] but even using localhost I get Connection to CUPS server failed. [05:20] Riddell: at least for cups 1.1 clientside: if nothing given in CUPS_PRINTER, /etc/cups/client.conf or comand line was given, fallback was localhost:631 [05:21] allee: well does setting KDE to use localhost work for you? [05:22] allee: I never had to set anything with a local cupsd running. When I only use the lp* clientstools I modified client.conf [05:22] Riddell: but for test I set cups server in print dialog and it worked (last time maybe 2 month ago) [05:24] allee: only cups client side usage problem I'm aware of is that sometimes cupsd uses , sometimes @ [05:25] talking to yourself :) [05:26] well it definatly doesn't work for me "Error: the IPP request failed for an unknown reason." === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:02] hmm [06:02] I think I package ortp and Kopete-jingle [06:02] as soon as 0.12 beta comes out, prolly in next week === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=Harald@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === spiritz [n=spiritz@61.12.41.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ is now known as toma === robotgeek [n=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === faked [n=faked@85-124-46-113.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:39] <_Sime> Riddell: guidance 0.6.2 is up on the site. http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/ [08:40] _Sime: can you look bug 26175 [08:40] it seems that userconfig breaks unlock from screensaver [08:40] _Sime: great [08:40] _Sime: can the DPI be set in displayconfig? [08:42] System Settings -> Storage Media has no service for Blank CD/DVD, is this intentional [08:46] i'm asking cause i am doing Documentation, and I need to finish the section on "Burning CD's" [08:54] <_Sime> Lure: next version ;) [08:54] <_Sime> Riddell: DPI => no, that would break FF. ;-) [08:56] _Sime: OK, just that you are aware of it. [08:57] _Sime: DPI -> it would also solve bug 25656 (it is a matter of perspective ;-)) [08:59] _Sime: and thanks for 0.6.2 - changelog looks very promising - looking forward === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] ping Riddell === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@s64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:18] incinerator: hi [09:18] you pinged me about the meeting yesterday, but then i went afk.... [09:18] robotgeek: I think the author has good reasons to have it that way [09:18] incinerator: just trying to put a face to your nick :) [09:19] it's me, Dominik, the German [09:19] ;-) [09:19] Btw, we will need some Ubuntu/Kubuntu CDs for both events, if you can bring some along.... [09:19] incinerator: are you going to the install days? [09:20] well, I'm organising them, I'd better go along, as well ggg [09:20] cool :) [09:20] I can't make them unfortunatly [09:20] but I'll bring a box of Kubuntu CDs and some Open CDs tomorrow [09:20] yay, if you happen to have some Ubuntu ones, as well.... [09:21] I don't [09:22] nevermind, Sean has some of those I think [09:26] ouch [09:26] this is not good [09:26] lindblad@insomnia:~$ ls [09:26] ls: relocation error: ls: symbol __guard, version GLIBC_2.3.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference [09:26] btw, I'm running your kde 3.5.1 breezy packages on my laptop just now, seems to work fine === toma is now known as toma_ [09:54] Riddell: hmm, okay. So, it will not popup a "Burn CD" dialog. === incinerator [n=incinera@82-41-24-164.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma_ is now known as toma [10:39] raphink: does setting cups to localhost work for you? [10:51] Riddell: nope [10:51] Riddell: I just upgraded a few minutes ago and now it works [10:51] Riddell: I'm trying to find what package might have fixed it [10:55] Riddell: that's weird ... [10:55] but it works :) so I won't complain [10:58] yes, it's a bit like that [10:59] how come I get that error? [11:01] nlindblad: ? [11:01] nlindblad@insomnia:~$ ls [11:01] ls: relocation error: ls: symbol __guard, version GLIBC_2.3.2 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference [11:01] hmm interesting bug [11:02] indeed === seth_ [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:10] should I be worried? [11:10] does it happen in all dirs ? [11:10] yes, and it's not only ls [11:10] what else? [11:10] seems like everything using libc is broken [11:11] root can do things fine though [11:11] what distro do you use ? dapper? [11:11] yes [11:11] is it up-to-date? [11:12] yes [11:12] hmmm [11:12] well did you report the bug? [11:13] not yet, I'll do that tomorrow [11:13] should have gone to bed hours ago [11:13] ok [11:14] nlindblad: is this just warning message or does "ls" fail completely [11:15] it dies [11:15] I would be concerned that machine would not boot anymore after shutdown [11:16] hmm [11:16] do you have libc6-i686 installed? [11:16] no idea [11:16] how do I look using apt [11:16] dpkg -S libc.so.6 [11:17]