=== Pygi [n=mario@83-131-244-137.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:21] what is galeon doing when I click on a link? it's certainly not opening it anymore. was it broken by the firefox change? === pianoboy4333 [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-244-137.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === konsumer [n=konsumer@p54B6E28D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:28] elmo, likely the same was as epiphany [12:29] mjg59: are you sure about a separate CD image? I think it should just be an ISO9660/HFS+ hybrid like we do for powerpc [12:29] anyway, bedtime [12:30] Kamion: If that's practical for the dapper timeframe, sure === seb128_ [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-61-20.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-69-133.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ispiked [n=ispiked@unaffiliated/ispiked] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] sabdfl: Just curious, is every DPL also an Ubuntu Project Leader? ;-) [12:41] haha [12:42] jvw: indirectly depending on your perspective [12:44] maybe we should have a DPL LP team ;-) [12:44] jvw, in so much as decisions that affect Debian affect Ubuntu, yes [12:44] Burgwork, regarding the keycodes: if you map the flag to a command you can no longer map flag+$key to anything and vice versa... [12:45] Seveas, ugh [12:45] good night guys [12:45] Seveas, I consider that a bug [12:45] me too === sivang notices the shift sticky keys pop ups hoola [12:46] (pressed it accidently more then 8 seconds) [12:54] sabdfl, where the shuttleworth foundation at with releasing the specs to the freedom toaster? [12:55] Burgwork: i believe it's all public [12:55] check with jason@shuttleworthfoundation.org [12:55] sabdfl, ok, cheers [12:58] anyone know when will multiple mount points be fixed? I mean, it only requires a little patch, nothing else :) [12:58] Pygi, have you filed a bug with the patch? [12:59] Burgwork: Not really :-/ But that is known bug I think... [12:59] Pygi, if it isn't, please file. This is a channel for discussing your patch to the bug, not the bug itself [01:00] ok, ok, sorry :) [01:00] Pygi, np === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:20] night freedom lovers [01:21] g'night mark [01:22] night [01:22] gn8 sabdfl === cgd [n=chrisd@cpe-24-59-103-80.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:28] night sabdfl ! === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] mdz: ping [01:36] yes? === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-244-137.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === davidme [n=davidme@m010f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-244-137.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:57] mdz: Can I get a UVF exception to sync mod_perl2? It's a bugfix release, has been cooking in sid for a month with no new bugs, and looks safe to me. [01:58] ah sorry mdz: didnt see you reply there. [01:59] mdz: wanted to talk about now the new structure stuff is in place whether we can get access (or i can) get access to upload to the backports pocket [01:59] so we can backport stuff like scim [01:59] I've spoken to mark breifly about it (asking whether it was a CC or TB thing) and he said that all it really needed was to convince you that backports people (aka me) were sane and sensible [02:00] Mez: So, are you? :) [02:00] Mez: what's the issue with scim? [02:00] mdz: the control hack doesnt work [02:00] why not? [02:00] it just wont register the changes to the control file and still builds the dapper packages [02:01] I mean - it'd only be on rare occasions that things were uploaded manually ... but it'd be useful to have it there [02:01] infinity, depends on who you ask (the sane bit anyway) [02:02] Mez: Surely, if the control hack isn't working, it was implemented incorrectly... [02:02] Mez: Do you have a source package somewhere I can look at for you? [02:02] infinity lemme just go and check if I deleted it or not [02:03] (Of course, I'm still morally opposed to swapping control files mid-build, but I doubt my opposition counts for much these days, when we have a bunch of packages doing it) [02:03] infinity - gimme one sec and I'll upload to revu [02:03] infinity, as am i - which is why I'd prefer a manual upload for it [02:04] Mez: Good work on dealing with Eugene as an upstream, BTW. He's not always the easiest man to work with. [02:05] infinity: really? he seems to like me :D [02:05] he's even provided me with a free Rar licence :D === tenmon [n=tenmon@66.60.1.49] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@210.213.78.211] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:06] how much difficult is to get a package on official repos ? [02:06] Mez: Lovely. Time to use that newfound influence to ask him if we can build rar on multiple architectures for him. ;) [02:06] infinity, lol - he seems to be quite responsive and stuff - what problems have we had working with him before? [02:06] Mez: btw. can you add a comment stating that it's for backports after you've uploaded to revu? thx. [02:06] sistpoty, no probs [02:06] thx [02:06] I'll archive it straight away :D [02:07] Mez: Oh, just general problems with arrogance and stubbornness. In other words: He's a programmer. [02:07] Mez: even better ;) [02:07] infinity: sounds like many people I know === `anthony [n=anthony@ekorp-203-63-137-225.eoff.ekorp.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:07] tenmon: depends on the packaging... for dapper we're in feature-freeze right now, meaning that we can accept new packages only for dapper+1 [02:08] infinity, I've not really come across that - I guess users he might be weird with - but I think he believes I know what I'm doing :D [02:08] though making it build on multi-arches ... I dunno... [02:08] sistpoty: I should submit to debian first then? [02:08] I dont think he'll release the source code [02:08] infinity, and thank you for noticing [02:08] although I don't know stubbornness [02:08] Mez: He might release it under and NDA (so we still can only distribute binaries, but we could BIULD for all arches and provide those binaries to him) [02:09] Mez: If you asked really, really nicely. :P [02:09] tenmon: that's always an option... that way the package will get autosynced for dapper+1 [02:09] sistpoty: ok, thanks [02:09] infinity, cool - would you be willing to provide the hardware to build on ? [02:09] Mez: s/and NDA/an NDA/ === tenmon [n=tenmon@66.60.1.49] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:09] Mez: It could be worked out, if he was into the idea. [02:10] infinity: I'll chat with him and see what he thinks [02:11] sistpoty: ping [02:11] Mez: pong [02:11] Mez: Although, you could already cleverly package his binaries for amd64 (and have the package depend on libc6-i386), if you wanted to cover two arches... [02:11] sistpoty, where on tiber is the FTP incoming dir - I need something deleted them [02:11] infinity, lol [02:11] Mez: /home/ftp/incoming... I'll take a look [02:12] Mez: what package? [02:12] scim [02:13] Mez: deleted [02:13] cheers [02:13] infinity - I'll CC: you [02:13] still adconrad@0c3.net === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:15] Mez: Yup. === jcape [i=jcape@71.194.176.102] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:21] infinity, sent :D [02:22] It's worth a try [02:24] mdz: but what do you think about the possibility of it? [02:24] argl argl argl [02:24] oy oy oy ? [02:24] hola ogra [02:25] xine-ui actually includes the complete xscreensaver-command source to send a fake event all 30 seconds ... [02:25] lol [02:25] *sigh* [02:27] infinity, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2081 [02:27] ogra: that is quite an impressive waste of code [02:27] ajmitch_, yup [02:28] you can write a fake event function for X in about 30 lines ... (including declarations and comments) [02:29] xscreensaver-command is 650 lines .... and not much of it will be used ... [02:29] Programs that directly interface with xscreensaver deserve to lose [02:31] argh, are you kidding me [02:31] we don't migrate preferences from xscreensaver to gnome-screensaver? [02:31] elmo, working on it [02:32] currently i'm hitting all the media players to recpect g-s-s ... [02:32] ogra: ah, ok, great [02:32] ogra: actually, I mean user preferences [02:32] its very intresting, verey player has its own solution ... [02:32] Mez: I don't like the idea of backports being a branch [02:32] Mez: the problem with scim just sounds like a bug [02:33] elmo, https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/31511 [02:33] malone bug 31511 in gnome-screensaver "Settings lost during an upgrade" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [02:33] mdz: surely it already is ? [02:33] ogra: ok, cool [02:33] Mez: it isn't; it's a build system [02:33] Mez: Well, right now it's a binary branch, but not a source branch, which makes it more manageable (generally) [02:33] ogra: also gnome-screensaver's config doesn't seem to list some hacks, have I got some reduced subset installed? [02:33] lost [02:34] ah: ok... [02:34] but mdz: surely you can see my POV to get rid of dirty hacks like this ? [02:34] elmo, do you have xscreensaver-data-extra and xscreensaver-gl-extra installed ? [02:34] and also means we might be able to backport more things [02:35] Mez: why do you even need a control file hack with scim? it looks like it should build unmodified on breezy [02:35] mdz: it'll build - yes [02:35] but - thngs depend on libscim8 in breezy [02:35] and libscim8c2a in dapper [02:35] ogra: no. meh. [02:35] elmo, xscreensaver-data and -gl only contain the selection we enabled by default since warty ... the rest went into the -extra packages [02:35] so we save 5MB on the Cd :) [02:35] ah, right [02:36] and well - we dont wanna go and backport the 20 packages that depend on it :D [02:36] s/20/18 [02:37] Mez: that's a problem specific to breezy, which will disappear with Dapper and hopefully not happen for a long time after, but I see your point [02:37] (which includes libstdc++6) [02:37] Mez: still, it seems better to keep all of the code in one place; when it's updated in dapper, you don't need to do a merge [02:37] it's less error-prone once it's working === infinity looks at this upload right now to see why it's not working. [02:38] mdz: true - but well - theres stuff thats been backported thats now a newer version in dapper... [02:38] lol - and thats stayed the same without a merge :D [02:38] Mez: what do you mean? [02:38] mdz: for example [02:38] either you modify the source relative to dapper, or you don't [02:38] if you modify it, you need to do a merge when it's updated [02:39] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=k3b [02:39] I think his point is that updates in dapper aren't automatically backported, which I assume is a feature, not a bug. [02:39] in bacports it 0.12.7 [02:39] infinity - yes that was my point [02:39] ok, then you're misunderstanding what I'm saying [02:39] mdz: asI said - this is only going to be for a couple of one off things like scim [02:39] a merge is where you need to reconcile two branches of code [02:39] Mez: Feh. You didn't do this upload relative to the current source in dapper. :) [02:40] whereas what we have today is copying the source (not even) from one place to another [02:40] infinity - has it been updated in dapper? [02:40] grr [02:40] mdz: I agree... [02:40] but as I said - for the most part, other than the odd occasion - it'll stay the same... [02:40] there were quality problems with the old backports where they diverged [02:40] mdz: I know :D [02:40] lol === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:41] however: none of them were caused by me === infinity watches ia64 slowly catch up... [02:42] infinity: I'll grab the latest copy of scim and make the chanegs - didnt realise it had been changed in dapper recently [02:43] infiity: wait - wtf you on about - it is relative to the current source in dapper [02:43] Mez: Current scim in dapper is -1ubuntu1... Which is also what you gave me. [02:44] infinity, yeah ... [02:44] er. .. [02:44] but mine has changes [02:44] oh [02:44] I see what you mean :D [02:44] lol [02:44] I didnt realise there'd been a scim hack for ubuntu [02:46] Mez: Also, you don't need to build-depend on "base-files"... It's an essential package. [02:46] (A system would be pretty broken without it) [02:46] Mez: how about this: I'm happy for ubuntu-core-dev to be able to upload to -backports, so if the changes are reviewed and uploaded by a core dev, the source can diverge [02:46] mdz: that sounds cool to me [02:46] mdz: That would work for me. [02:46] done [02:46] and gives me a reason to go for my core-dev :D [02:46] (which I've been holding off as I dont need it atm) [02:47] mdz: It would also mean that for those of us who handle backportability in our own packages (thinking of me and pitti here, at least), we can remove some dirty hacks and do direct backports uploads. [02:49] infinity: yep [02:49] mdz: sounds good to me if you're willing for it - just lemme know what needs to be done on my side - if anything === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] Mez: I'll take it from here [02:51] (Although, there's a certin point of perverse pride in knowing that everything I maintain can build, in some hackish way or other, on sarge, etch, hoary, breezy, and dapper) [02:51] mdz: cool - expect a core-dev application from me within the next few months then === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:51] Mez: expect some hard questions from the board ;-) [02:52] Mez: you think you're ready for it? === infinity might want so show up for that once, since he's been sponsoring Mez in Debian. [02:52] ajmitch_, hence why I said in the next few months [02:52] s/once/one/ [02:52] hmm, so would LP be good for any distro to use? [02:52] LaserJock: Not yet, but that's certainly the plan. [02:52] ajmitch: I dont really need it to be honest - I've had no problem getting stuff sponsored anyways [02:53] LaserJock: For now, it's getting to the point where any Debian/Ubuntu derivative could use it end-to-end, but we don't have (for instance) buildd support for RPM-based systems. [02:53] infinity: I'm talking with some Fink devs right now. [02:53] Ahh, fink is dpkg-based, yes? [02:54] yes [02:54] I just wonder if there is anything that LP could offer them [02:54] Then, in theory, LP could be made to support fink reasonably easily, with a bit of hacking and some prayer. [02:54] LaserJock: You'd really need to talk to the LP team (and include Mark) to get an idea of A) how much work it would be, and B) how much priority/manpower we could throw at the problem. [02:55] LaserJock: So, #launchpad would be a good start. === wasabi [n=wasabi@c-71-199-219-63.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] infinity: yeah, thanks [02:57] infinity - I'll er - do a merge :D [02:57] Mez: Thanks. === infinity grabs some lunch. [02:59] infinity, though the B-D on base-files is neccesary - as well - when we were backporting KDE - that caused problems with the control hack in that [03:00] Mez: It's impossoble for a buildd chroot to NOT have base-files installed. [03:00] impossible, too. [03:00] Mez: If you've found one that somehow claims not to, yell at me. [03:01] Mez: Cause it'd be VERY broken. [03:01] infinity: lol - well er - I'm working with pbuilds :D [03:01] and it doesnt seem to grab the Essential stuff there [03:01] Mez: Same deal. pbuilder shouldn't be able to make a chroot that's missing "Essential: yes" packages. === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:02] infinity, weird: because it screwed up a KDE backport cause of that === g14 [n=SEJeff@12-211-125-247.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] mdz: are TB meetings going to remain at 2000UTC? === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5486FB42.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-109-185.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:11] sistpoty, ping [03:11] Mez: pong [03:12] sistpoty, I cant get nuke_upload.py to work [03:12] Mez: basically you shouldn't ;) [03:12] sistpoty, why not? === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:12] Mez: you can do it with the web-interface ;) [03:12] can I? [03:12] where? === aal2000 [n=user@d220-238-98-138.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:13] Mez: just a second, I'll check if you are set to admin, otherwise you can't nuke uploads [03:13] Howdy, is there a ppc specific development channel ? [03:13] ah thts prob y then [03:13] I'm not [03:13] ajmitch_: until someone proposes a different scheme and the board agrees...otherwise inertia wins [03:15] Mez: now you should be able to do it ;) [03:16] sistpoty, lol - I just updated myself aswell [03:16] lol [03:16] hehe [03:16] Mez: problem with nuke_uploads is, that I simply don't know if it's still current/what hacks reside in it (if any) and you might need sudo-rights for it [03:16] sistpoty, I cant see a nuke button [03:17] Mez: you'll need to archive an upload first. then you'll have a nuke link in the list right next to unarchive [03:17] archive then nuke [03:17] hehe... your faster than I write ;) [03:17] ;) [03:18] Who can I speak to in relation to adding a piece of software to the ubuntu distribution? [03:18] It's for imac G5 SMU control. [03:18] sistpoty, surely there should be a "are you sure" for nuking stuff? [03:19] Mez: bah... the solution is to give admin-rights only to ppl. who know what they're doing... ;) [03:19] aal2000: add your software to wiki/MOTU/Candidates [03:19] sistpoty, true - but it's kinda disconcerting [03:20] Mez: revu1 is basically a crude hack... I guess we can add this to revu2 [03:20] Mez: just use it with caution then [03:20] ajmitch_, I will dont worry - lol - but all it takes is an accidental click [03:20] freeflying: thanks. [03:21] Mez: you'll need to archive an upload first... so you'll need two accidents ;) [03:21] sistpoty, can I hack in a javascript yes no? [03:21] sistpoty - not if you accidentally nuke an archived upload instead of unarchiving [03:22] Mez: javascript in the comment fields? yes, that's possible, since it doesn't check for anything... though you'll need at least a revu-account to post comments [03:23] sistpoty, no I mean - add in a hack for the nuke link [03:23] so it doesnt nuke it unless you click a javascript box saying yes [03:24] Mez: hm... might be worth a try, though I generally dislike javasript [03:24] or even another "confirm" page [03:25] Mez: imo a confirm-page would be better... thus you can use revu full-featured with js disabled as well [03:25] Or instead of another page (which is another round-trip), just a checkbox under the "nuke" button that says "yes, I know what I'm doing" [03:25] infinity, or even better "no, I'm not an idiot" [03:25] hehe === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:26] though I wouldnt be able to use it then [03:26] hey seth === rcliii [n=rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:26] hey Mez [03:26] however as stated before... revu1 is nothing but a crude hack, and changing it is *erm* hacking even more hacks to a screwed up design... 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This has been outstanding for about a fortnight [04:37] good night everyone === Gman is now known as GmanAFK === HrdwrBoB [n=matt@he.said.do.you.speak.in.mylanguage.gov.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-129-56.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Benbo [n=liblit@ppp-70-226-176-213.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Benbo [n=liblit@ppp-70-226-176-213.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [05:06] infinity - did you see my latest upload to revu? === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:14] morning [05:15] morning fabbione [05:16] Mez: Err, no. I'm revu illiterate. URL? === seth [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:21] infinity: probably http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2082 [05:27] sladen: That does seem likely, yes. === davidme [n=davidme@206-124-154-245.atm02.sea.blarg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ispiked [n=ispiked@unaffiliated/ispiked] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem_ [n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-154-116.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-109-185.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:04] whiprush: what are all these photos in your flickr feed? [07:06] jdub: blogging now. [07:06] gimme 5 === mpt [n=mpt@222-154-180-234.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:08] whiprush: heh [07:09] whiprush: so we have to sit at your blog hitting refresh to find out? [07:11] jdub: I need your help in #edubuntu [07:14] ok, general irc question. If i have ops with one nick and I link my other nicks, do all have ops? [07:14] and I seriously need help in #edubuntu [07:15] Burglaptop: they should [07:15] ok [07:15] jdub: http://www.whiprush.org/2006/03/tegnologiedetro.html [07:17] whiprush: nicely done [07:17] very cool === whiprush fixes grammar post haste [07:17] hm, f-spot 0.1.20, I'm glad I'm not basing this version on upstream' [07:18] s sleep-deprived typos [07:18] whiprush: heh.. I always have to do that after posting on my blog :) [07:19] whiprush: *post* *re-read* *last-second-fixes* *planet comes by* [07:19] whiprush: that networking bug should be fixed in dapper [07:19] Treenaks: indeed [07:19] whiprush: eh, sweet :) [07:19] the trick is to know when to publish. You want to miss a planet feed by a minute, so you have 9 minutes to fix. [07:19] whiprush: btw, you should look for 'mark of cain' music [07:20] mark of cain? [07:20] like, the guy that killed abel? [07:20] turns out they have an official website [07:20] http://www.tmoc.com.au/ [07:20] i think you'd dig it === whiprush looks. [07:20] this looks like metal. [07:21] btw, the moviegotchis are popular again (because of the new additions) [07:21] whiprush, hi. does the fridge have an rss feed? [07:21] so popular that I exceeded my bandwidth quota for February with 2GB [07:21] ealden: it does === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-130-128.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=michael@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] jdub: it would be nice if the fridge lit up that RSS icon in firefox, the one that shows up in the corner. [07:30] hrm, wonder why it doesn't [07:30] it has useful link bits [07:30] ealden: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/atom/feed should work for you [07:31] whiprush, ah. there. thanks === mitch [n=mitch@61.68.34.198] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:37] jdub: do you have ? [07:39] ...appears to work for me(tm) [07:42] same here...the fridge lit up that rss icon in my firefox [07:43] works in konqueror here too [07:43] whiprush: you using firefox 1.5 on windows, perchance? [07:45] yep [07:45] at the moment [07:45] aha [07:45] interesting [07:45] i thought it worked because i was previously looking at ff1.5 in dapper [07:45] but just then, was looking at it in windows [07:46] odd that something like that is platform specific [07:46] could be a bug [07:46] like in the windowing stuff [07:46] or something [07:46] odd like iz gtk boog [07:46] or actually [07:46] what does firefox's rss icon do [07:46] launches what? [07:46] nothing === wasabi [n=wasabi@c-67-172-206-60.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:47] just lets you bookmark it as a feed [07:47] oh ok [07:47] within the application [07:47] (in konq, here, it lets me add it to akregator, so i was thinking a little different) [07:48] Kamion: ping === giftnudel [n=mb@p54B2A107.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:14] mdz or Kamion ping === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-130-128.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mitch [n=mitch@61.68.34.198] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:52] Kamion: can I request an UVF exception for katapult [08:52] so as to sync from debian ... and fix a couple of minor bugs === carlos [n=carlos@84.76.255.40] has joined #ubuntu-devel === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.25] has joined #ubuntu-devel === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BlueT_ [n=BlueT@61-59-209-195.adsl.static.seed.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:12] morning all === lloydinho [n=andreas@130.225.237.101] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:18] morning sivang === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:20] Good morning [09:20] hello sivang Burglaptop === lixus [n=lixuss@lixus.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang hugs pitti === sivang hugs zakame [09:23] and ofcourse, Burglaptop === simira [n=simira@194.24.252.250] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame hugs sivang [09:27] mdz: around? [09:28] mdz: we had a consensus to not ship xchat-gnome for dapper? === azeem_ is now known as azeem === mvo [n=egon@p54A66D70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:36] hi sivang [09:36] hi mvo [09:37] moins mvo [09:39] hello pitti, sivang! [09:40] jdub: pong [09:40] Mez: send us mail with the upstream changelog or NEWS file snippet or whatever, please [09:41] Kamion .... er [09:41] *thinks* === Kinnison [n=dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:41] the changelog isnt complete [09:41] because of the baz-> bzr changes [09:41] you're really persuading me here ;-) [09:41] a description of the upstream changes === sivang hugs mvo === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@mailhost.newtec.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:56] Kamion: the main reason I want to request it is because I'd rather just sync with debian [09:56] atm - theres no new usptream version in debian [09:56] but there will be soon [09:56] and I dont believe elmo has got round to syncing it... [09:57] so - I'll need an UVF exception if it gets to that after the neew version goes into debian === wjb [n=warren@c220-237-176-23.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:02] Kamion: bah, will have to remember to put payloads in my pings again [10:02] Kamion: I've changed a couple of GNOME packages to get -dbg binary, should I ping you when I do so? Or so you notice them from NEW? Should I update the supported list to mention them? === olemke [n=olemke@iup.physik.uni-bremen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-146-92.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [n=scott@c51008D91.inet.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:16] Kamion: that's right -> what's up with ubuntu-artwork? [10:18] so, should i assume that all dapper cd images created are installable without issue? [10:19] Happy Mailman Day, everyone! [10:20] yay, HMD [10:21] good morning, Keybuk? === mvo grumbles aobut launchpad timing out all the time when trying to search for a source package [10:23] simira: overslept [10:23] Keybuk: oh, so you didn't have to shovel yourself out of the hotel today? [10:24] Hi Keybuk [10:26] hey berpitt [10:26] +i === Yvonne [n=01101110@pdpc/supporter/active/Yvonne] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-130-128.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:30] lamont, infinity: please give-back tomboy (amd64) and gaim (ppc, ia64, amd64)... thanks === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zeedo [n=zeedo@reboot-robot.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B09C2.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:33] morning Keybuk , slomo, jdub , simira [10:33] hello! [10:34] hi dholbach and sivang :) [10:34] hey slomo_ :) [10:34] yo [10:37] dholbach: hi [10:38] hi sivang === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:40] dholbach: is it still cold for you there? (getting too hot in here) :) [10:40] it's 1C - that's fine [10:46] dholbach: I'd argue that 29658 shouldn't be rejected since C-u works that way in gdm. [10:47] Mithrandir: i see, I'll tell upstream. === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@mailhost.newtec.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:07] seb128: that second bug you asked me to import falls under the same category as the first. I plan to handle them all in one go, so you shouldn't have to ask again. [11:08] jamesh: yeah, I've read your mail and planned to reply but got a bit busy with GNOME 2.13.92, thank you :) === mvo [n=egon@p54A66658.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vuntz_ [n=vuntz@volin.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === arp [n=alastair@d58-104-96-173.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:16] How can I speak to about HAL? === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [11:16] arp: by typing questions and comments here :) [11:16] It segfaults on ppc64, if I could get the proper configure options I could build it here and debug it. [11:17] arp: let's take this to /msg === arp is now known as netstar === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@mailhost.newtec.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === genstef [n=stefan@gentoo/developer/genstef] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:22] infinity, lamont: please give-back libgnomeui on ppc === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:25] seb128: just trying beagle for main inclusion status; is beagled started automatically somehow? I had to start it by hand [11:25] should be started by apps needing it [11:26] other way start it by hand [11:26] pitti: when you try to search something when beagled is not running it asks you whether you want to start it (at least in beagle-search) [11:26] ie: if nautilus is built with libbeagle it should start it when you try using it [11:26]