[12:00] <gnomefreak> FlannelKing: than you really dont know my coding skills :)
[12:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:00] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  while your at it make a spell check for xchat too please
[12:00] <munzir> Hi, How should I change to a virtual console in dapper? Ctrl+Alt+F? doesn't work!
[12:00] <Lacarno> Does anyone have experience using java-package to install java SDK on a powerpc?
[12:00] <humon> where do i change what window manager will be loaded by default?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> me and perl dont mix
[12:00] <IdleOne>  go to #ubuntu+1 for Dapper help :-)
[12:00] <FlannelKing> gnomefreak: laugh, well, "one could make a plugin", provided one found an adequate (and snappy) perl dictionary/spellcheck shindig
[12:00] <heatxsink> Does anyone in here know if the bluez kernel patch for 2.6.15 is going to make it into the ubuntu 2.6.15 kernel?
[12:00] <hernan>  /join #ubuntu-es
[12:00] <gnomefreak> FlannelKing: true
[12:01] <FlannelKing> hernan are you using xchat?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> hernan: good now no space
[12:01] <bz0b> hey all
[12:01] <cafuego> Lacarno: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPPC
[12:01] <IdleOne> heya bz0b
[12:01] <gnomefreak> no space before the /
[12:01] <Lacarno> Cafuego, I tried
[12:01] <hernan> what?
[12:01] <heatxsink> Without that patch a few bluetooth mice with scroll wheels don't work!!!!!!!
[12:01] <Lacarno> cafuego. getting an error
[12:01] <hernan> i copy  /join #ubuntu-es
[12:01] <Bean> Is it possible to make an application stick to a desktop (1,2,3...)
[12:01] <Bean> ?
[12:01] <Lacarno> "No matching plugin was found.
[12:01] <Lacarno> "
[12:01] <hernan> and then press enter
[12:01] <cafuego> Lacarno: java-package won't cut it, you'll need to untar and set links by hand.
[12:01] <gnomefreak> hernan: cant copy it it addsa  space
[12:02] <FlannelKing> try clicking on #ubuntu-es hernan
[12:02] <Lacarno> blast
[12:02] <PuppiesOnAcid> cafuego: You konw of any good places online to buy acer tablets?
[12:02] <hernan> ok flannelking
[12:02] <Lacarno> maybe I missed that part
[12:02] <gnomefreak> cafuego: you giving out help pages today?
[12:02] <hernan> i try
[12:02] <hernan> where click
[12:02] <gnomefreak> i need the hal help page
[12:02] <cafuego> PuppiesOnAcid: only in .AU, which is probably not useful to you.
[12:02] <cafuego> PuppiesOnAcid: acer.com should have a list of resellers.
[12:03] <hernan> #ubuntu-es hernan
[12:03] <hernan> #ubuntu-es
[12:03] <hernan> where i type #ubuntu-es
[12:04] <cafuego> gnomefreak: /usr/share/doc/hal
[12:04] <_jason> hernan: like this: /join #ubuntu-es
[12:04] <roaet2> anyone know of a way to lock the keyboard from input?
[12:05] <FlannelKing> he got in guys.
[12:05] <gnomefreak> cafuego: ty
[12:06] <R4B3> hi
[12:06] <delmar> I asked this just before but didnt notice an answer... is installing ubuntu and using XFS a supported option or is it a bit tedious and I should stick to ext3?
[12:07] <Peibol> can you say me the spanish room?
[12:07] <IdleOne> !es
[12:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:07] <slvmchn> can anyone recommend a program for editing video?
[12:08] <Luke> My camera wont mount more than once. I'll mount it once fine but if i unmount it and try to mout it again, i get this error from dmesg:
[12:08] <Luke> [66300.499024]  usb-storage: Unable to allocate the scsi host
[12:08] <Luke> [66300.499027]  usb-storage: probe of 4-1:1.0 failed with error -12
[12:08] <Luke> anyone know how to fix this?
[12:10] <Luke> here is the full dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/577534
[12:10] <FlannelKing> delmar: Ubuntu supports XFS
[12:11] <fisne> can you write files o NTFS while on ubuntu?
[12:11] <cafuego> delmar: Ubuntu supports XFS, but you should stick to ext3 regardless.
[12:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fisne: not really, no
[12:11] <FlannelKing> cafuego: why's that?
[12:12] <cafuego> FlannelKing: far less mature on Linux
[12:12] <SolidState> Hi, I hope someone can help with a couple of questions - the first is, I accidently logged-out to the login screen, and couldn't get back since I don't know the username+password (using the live-cd). Anyone know what they are?
[12:12] <iBalo> !tell felixfoertsch about ati
[12:12] <delmar> OK. I was under the impression that while XFS is supported (since its well supported in the kernel etc).. the installation proceedure might not support it all that well in terms of setting it up on a purely XFS only system... where even /boot is an XFS mount....
[12:12] <cafuego> delmar: No, that all works just fine.
[12:13] <delmar> cafuego, ok. so why should I stick to ext3 over XFS which is used on commercial and military grade systems?
[12:13] <SolidState> My second problem is that I don't have network connectivity (I'm writing this from Windows). I'm using L2TP over cable-modem. I didn't see a program that supports this. Any advice?
[12:13] <Bean> Is it possible to make an application stick to a desktop (1,2,3...) ?
[12:13] <cafuego> delmar: Because ext3 is far more mature and thus less like to mess up.
[12:13] <_jason> Bean: you mean always start in the same one?
[12:13] <FlannelKing> Bean: you mean so whenever you start it, it goes to that desktop automatically?
[12:14] <sethk> delmar, it's a bit smaller, and a bit quicker.  If you don't need the extra reliability you might want to make that engineering trade off of accepting ext3 characteristics
[12:14] <delmar> sethk, so you agree XFS is more reliable then?
[12:14] <sethk> delmar, yes, from my testing and from what I've read, I would agree
[12:15] <cafuego> Maybe on SGI, where it's been in use for over a decade, but not on Linux.
[12:15] <delmar> it is the reliability and .. fault tolerant aspects that I am after.. if ext3 is more fault tolerant and able to deal with faults better.. then im sold... otherwise XFS....
[12:15] <optish> with security=user, is there a way to make samba have a public share that does not prompt for username/password
[12:15] <gnomefreak> what is the hald command for ubuntu?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> bash telling me its not a commnad
[12:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cafuego: IIRC, SGI wrote the Linux implementation of XFS - I don't see any major problems with it
[12:15] <sethk> gnomefreak, do you mean halt?
[12:16] <Bean> _jason, FlannelKing, yes to always start in a specific desktop.
[12:16] <_jason> Bean: look into devilspie
[12:16] <cafuego> delmar: Well, I can only talk from experience in that respect, and ext3 never let me down, xfs has. Twice.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> sethk: dont know ill try it
[12:16] <delmar> cafuego, and it wasnt a hardware issue that caused it?
[12:16] <xanavim> gnomefreak: hal       6973  0.0  0.7   5148  3692 ?        Ss   09:53   0:00 /usr/sbin/hald
[12:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell Bean about devilspie
[12:16] <xanavim> I have hald running
[12:16] <gnomefreak> nope that doesnt work either
[12:17] <cafuego> delmar: Nope, I still don't know what caused the second one, but the first one messed up ebcuase XFS's fsck tool trashed the fs after an unclean shutdown and deleted *everything*.
[12:17] <bad_iNFO> i installed KDE and i can only run at 1024x780, is there a way to make it so when the windows pop up you can see the whole window, the windows are too large and it won't let me resize em
[12:17] <gnomefreak> im tryin to run hald --verbose=yes --deamon=no
[12:17] <fisne> fuck
[12:17] <Bean> _jason, thanks, looking at the wiki now.
[12:17] <MKA> moin
[12:17] <FlannelKing> cafuego: I had that happen with ext3, fsck trashing the fs.
[12:17] <delmar> cafuego, blood hell. thats rather sad.
[12:17] <gnomefreak> guy in @freedesktop asked me what output is
[12:17] <gnomefreak> fishse: please watch your language
[12:17] <cafuego> delmar: Yes, luckily that was 2 days after install, so I didn't actually lsoe anything.
[12:18] <IdleOne> fisne:  you headed in the right direction for a ban
[12:18] <simonbp> bad_iNFO: run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and specify the resolutions you want x server to use.
[12:18] <delmar> cafuego, lucky then.
[12:18] <aboapri> could someone please tell me what the deal is with getting mplayer on breezy?
[12:18] <bad_iNFO> ok thank you do i do that from a terminal?
[12:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html <--- here we go - the filesystem shootout.
[12:18] <fisne> no i was lagging
[12:18] <fisne> lol
[12:18] <FlannelKing> gnomefreak: I think hald is the HAL daemon
[12:18] <bimberi> ubotu tell aboapri about mplayer
[12:18] <simonbp> bad_info: yes
[12:18] <delmar> cafuego, im thinking of creating an LVM, and might go with ext3 at this stage...
[12:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell aboapri about mplayer
[12:18] <Evixion> !sigmatel
[12:18] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Evixion
[12:18] <IdleOne> !tell aboapri  about mplayer
[12:19] <simonbp> bad_iNFO: I don't know how to do it from the gui. probably in preferences somewhere.
[12:19] <xanavim> gnomefreak: note that hald is running as user "hal"
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ok but that doesnt helpo me looking for the output :( since bash doesnt know it and /usr/bin/hal doesnt have it
[12:19] <xanavim> gnomefreak: /usr/sbin/hald
[12:19] <Bean> _jason, I think ubotu should link to the very informative wiki.
[12:20] <Alashua> where can i obtain MP3 decoder for totem
[12:20] <Seveas> !mp3
[12:20] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:20] <IdleOne> !w32codecs
[12:20] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:20] <_jason> Bean: the ubuntu wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Devilspie ?
[12:20] <Alashua> thanks
[12:20] <basti> hi
[12:20] <xanavim> gnomefreak: but I don't know how it's running as user hal... I mean, you can't on a default ubuntu system, su to hal
[12:20] <gnomefreak> i cant open that file its the purplle diamond
[12:21] <basti> how to install .deb files?
[12:21] <Seveas> !deb
[12:21] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[12:21] <_jason> basti: what are you trying to install?
[12:21] <basti> skype :P
[12:21] <gnomefreak> xanavim: im trying to get it to run it wont initinalize
[12:21] <Bean> _jason, yes, that one.
[12:21] <bimberi> !skype
[12:21] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:21] <bosco> what is the command for deleting in ubuntu
[12:21] <bimberi> rm
[12:21] <bosco> a  video
[12:21] <bosco> thank you
[12:21] <fisne> rm -rf *
[12:22] <bimberi> bosco: yw :)
[12:22] <fisne> yw
[12:22] <basti> I dont understand :(
[12:22] <_jason> Bean: done.  thanks
[12:22] <fisne> rm file.avi
[12:22] <fisne> or rm folder
[12:23] <SolidState> Hi, I hope someone can help with a couple of questions - the first is, I accidently logged-out to the login screen, and couldn't get back since I don't know the username+password (using the live-cd). Anyone know what they are?
[12:23] <SolidState> My second problem is that I don't have network connectivity (I'm writing this from Windows). I'm using L2TP over cable-modem. I didn't see a program that supports this. Any advice?
[12:23] <Seveas> SolidState, usernamer ubuntu, no password
[12:23] <SolidState> I'm talking about the 5.10 live-cd BTW
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ill wait for them to update it again
[12:23] <SolidState> Seveas: Thanks!
[12:24] <SolidState> Seveas: About the second question, any ideas?
[12:24] <Seveas> SolidState, not the slightest, sorry
[12:24] <slvmchn> dumb question, how do i install from a .tar.gz
[12:24] <cafuego> slvmchn: via 'checkinstall'.
[12:24] <MisterN> n8
[12:25] <gnomefreak> slvmchn: unpack it than comfigure it than make than checkinstall
[12:25] <_jason> slvmchn: you usually compile, what are you trying to install?
[12:25] <basti> can somebody explain me whats up with Skype?
[12:25] <slvmchn> this program kino
[12:25] <SolidState> So nobody here knows how to get Ubuntu to connect to the Internet?
[12:25] <Jae686> it depends
[12:25] <cafuego> basti: The usual. Shitty proprietary non-standard software.
[12:25] <Jae686> via cable or wireless?
[12:25] <bosco> not i have not quite
[12:25] <basti> :(
[12:25] <bosco> i did not auit
[12:25] <LionKMP> Hi! Where can I find deb files? Seeing the downloads on ubuntu.com I can find ISOs only. :-/
[12:25] <brenner> slvmchn: not happy with the one in the repos?
[12:25] <FlannelKing> SolidState: L2TP is supported.  It's in the same stuff as the PPPoE stuff.  Don't know about on the liveCD though
[12:25] <SolidState> Jae686: Hi, if you're asking me, cable
[12:25] <_jason> !info kino
[12:25] <ubotu> kino: (Non-linear editor for Digital Video data), section graphics, is extra. Version: 0.75-7ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 725 kB, Installed size: 2676 kB
[12:26] <Bean> _jason, When I ran ./configure (installing from source) I got: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9565 . Everything else seems fine, do I net to download a package for the XML parsing perl module?
[12:26] <gnomefreak> LionKMP: synaptic
[12:26] <_jason> slvmchn: kino is in the repositories, use synaptic
[12:26] <Jae686> have you plugged the cable to the modem / router?
[12:26] <Jae686> if you have your router set to DHCP
[12:26] <LionKMP> gnomefreak: but I don't have Ubuntu, I just want a deb src to build on another system :-D
[12:26] <gnomefreak> LionKMP: assuming you already installed ubuntu
[12:26] <scelestus> lol
[12:26] <gnomefreak> LionKMP: ubuntu only has iso
[12:26] <_jason> Bean: what version are you compiling?
[12:26] <Jae686> and assuming that you have yout ethernet card at eth0
[12:26] <Jae686> you canb type
[12:27] <Jae686> sudo dhclient eth0
[12:27] <Bean> _jason, latest (.16)
[12:27] <SolidState> FlannelKing: The live-cd should support the same connection types as the regular one, AFAIK. and I think PPPoE is only for ADSL, no?
[12:27] <LionKMP> gnomefreak: oh, that's strange. but Synaptic can also download from somewhere, so I could also.
[12:27] <_jason> Bean: libxml-parser-perl
[12:27] <slvmchn> ok after ./configure then what
[12:27] <Bean> _jason, <3
[12:27] <bimberi> LionKMP: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:27] <scelestus> make
[12:27] <DjKritical> Howdy... I'm using Ubuntu & Firestarter to setup a basic gateway server for my home network... does anyone know a way to monitor bandwidth? I just a point in the right direction =)
[12:27] <SolidState> Jae686: I have a modem and it is plugged in. I have made no hardware changes from now (connected through Windows)
[12:27] <FlannelKing> SolidState: No idea.  But, well, here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-54582.html
[12:28] <gnomefreak> bimberi: can he get the .deb for the kernel there?
[12:28] <IdleOne> LionKMP:  packages.ubuntu.com
[12:28] <bimberi> gnomefreak: yep
[12:28] <gnomefreak> LionKMP: what os are you using?
[12:28] <_jason> slvmchn: use synaptic to install kino, there is no point in compiling it
[12:28] <LionKMP> bimberi, gnomefreak, idleone: thank you!
[12:28] <Jae686> goto ubuntu and type at the terminal
[12:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell slvmchn about synaptic
[12:28] <Jae686> sudo dhclient eth0
[12:29] <LionKMP> gnomefreak: Nexenta gnu/opensolaris.
[12:29] <startxwhite> i've got trinity live cd, sytemrescue live cd and and insertcd live cd distro.  these distros *together* can fit on o 650mb blank cd. i wonder if it is possible to burn ONE cd containg the three and select which one to boot from when you switch on the pc with the cd in the tray? is there a newbie friendly way to do it?
[12:29] <slvmchn> ok thx
[12:29] <gnomefreak> LionKMP: ah ok
[12:29] <bimberi> gnomefreak: cygwin :P
[12:29] <SolidState> Jae686: what will "sudo dhclient eth0" do? What do I do after?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> bimberi: too much work
[12:30] <LionKMP> thanks guys, bye! :)
[12:30] <FlannelKing> startxwhite: um, it's possible, check this out: http://multidistro.tlm-project.org/
[12:30] <scelestus> SolidState have you configured your NIC in sys > admin > networking?
[12:30] <SolidState> FlannelKing: Thanks for the link, looks like the answers were that no support for L2TP was available :(
[12:30] <Seveas> startxwhite, no newbie friendly way I think
[12:30] <bimberi> gnomefreak: sorry, didn't realise it was a serious question.  I wonder if you could unpack the deb and put things in the right places.
[12:30] <gnomefreak> startxwhite: why couldnt you burn 3 things on one cd as long as they fit?
[12:30] <SolidState> scelestus: Hi, how do I do that? What does that do?
[12:30] <FlannelKing> SolidState: if I read that correctly, theres no L2TP GUI interface, but the stuffs still there to do it.
[12:30] <Seveas> bimberi, yes, but then you'd miss the pre/postinstall actions
[12:31] <bimberi> Seveas: of course :/
[12:31] <FlannelKing> SolidState: and, it might also be coming out in Dapper, that was development for Breezy, it might be included in Dapper
[12:31] <manthar> hi i have a sb live 24 bits and i can hear only tree of my 5 speakers can you help me
[12:32] <mikebot> does anyone know the incoming and outgoing servers for gmail? smtp.gmail.com and pop.gmail.com aren't working i don't think
[12:32] <FlannelKing> startxwhite: actually, that page has a link to a forum, that talks about how to write your own.  apparently RIP includes GRUB on it's liveCD, so you can get an edge in that way.
[12:32] <_jason> mikebot: search for pop in the gmail help
[12:32] <mikebot> _jason: okay, thanks
[12:32] <SolidState> FlannelKing: thanks, I was hoping for a solution now, not in some future release :/
[12:32] <gnomefreak> mikebot: yes that is them but make sure the incomming port is set to 995 and outgoing is 587
[12:32] <jeef> anyone used kubuntu on an amd64?
[12:32] <asymmetry> mikebot, you have to enable pop access within gmail
[12:33] <gnomefreak> mikebot: yeah what asymmetry said too
[12:33] <SolidState> scelestus: Hi, how do I do that? What does that do? What's a NIC?
[12:33] <asymmetry> mikebot, and the servers require SSL connections both ways
[12:33] <FlannelKing> SolidState: like I said, the stuffs there, you can configure it from the command line.  You just need to know how.  Which I don't.
[12:33] <ttread> jeef, yep I'm running kubuntu AMD64 now
[12:33] <gnomefreak> also you need to make sure outgoing you use tls and incomming sll
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ssl
[12:33] <gnomefreak> or whatever it is
[12:33] <mikebot> asymmetry: what is ssl?
[12:33] <jeef> ttread, how's it working out for you? running smooth? got openoffice going and all?
[12:33] <Bean> _jason, another error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9566 I Tried to find the appropriate packages and they didn't seem to be there.
[12:33] <asymmetry> mikebot, incoming port: 995, outgoing: 465
[12:33] <SolidState> FlannelKing: Alas, neither do I , or I would not be here ;)
[12:33] <DjKritical> Howdy... I'm using Ubuntu & Firestarter to setup a basic gateway server for my home network... does anyone know a way to monitor bandwidth? I just a point in the right direction =)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> asymmetry: outgoing is 587
[12:34] <jeef> ttread, 3.5.x right?
[12:34] <asymmetry> gnomefreak, considering im staring at the settings that i have that work, its 465
[12:34] <ttread> Yes it's smooth I like it a lot.  I had to do some configuration of video and audio after installation
[12:34] <mikebot> asymmetry: so pop is 995?
[12:34] <ttread> jeef, yep I installed kde 3.5
[12:34] <asymmetry> mikebot, yes
[12:34] <_jason> Bean: apt-cache search --names-only lib wnck
[12:35] <mikebot> asymmetry: gnomefreak: perfect, thank you
[12:35] <mikebot> what about a school email i have? can i get that in firefox?
[12:35] <nickrud> DjKritical: you could try aptitude search bandwidth, some of those might serve
[12:35] <SolidState> FlannelKing: Thanks fir the advice and trying to help, must go now. Thanks again and gn...
[12:36] <SolidState> FlannelKing: for*
[12:36] <gnomefreak> mikebot: they should have a help section in the mailbox see if they say set up for outlook
[12:36] <Bean> _jason, should I download all 4 results? (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9567)
[12:36] <mikebot> gnomefreak: okay, thanks
[12:36] <jeef> ttread, are you using the kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 mirror?
[12:37] <asymmetry> gnomefreak, i just looked up the outlook instructions: outbound is 465, according to their website
[12:37] <gnomefreak> asymmetry: accourding to the gmail site its 587
[12:37] <_jason> Bean: that would be the fastest way, otherwise try the runtime and common files first then the -dev then the perl interface
[12:37] <gnomefreak> but im sure there are 6-10 different ports you can use
[12:37] <h3ax> dose anybody have a ideer of how i change the Keyboard layout to Danish/Reconining Nordic Letters/chars ? ?? ???
[12:37] <asymmetry> gnomefreak, what are you not understanding? im staring at the gmail site. according to GMAIL, its 465.
[12:38] <ttread> jeef I think so, I followed the instructions on the wiki
[12:38] <_jason> asymmetry, gnomefreak: ``Port: 465 or 587'' :)
[12:38] <jeef> ttread, are you running openoffice.org?
[12:38] <_jason> asymmetry, gnomefreak: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287
[12:38] <khafra> I'm trying to make a chroot for 32 bit stuff on this 64 bit Ubuntu, but the first thing I tried to do in the chroot (setting the locale) failed
[12:39] <khafra> I'm using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[12:39] <ttread> jeef, yes, the default OpenOffice runs fine
[12:39] <bonee> what is the command line to install a .deb file
[12:39] <h3ax> No one
[12:39] <xanavim> bonee: sudo dpkg -i
[12:39] <bonee> than kz
[12:39] <gnomefreak> for thunderbird its 587
[12:39] <khafra> Is there anything wrong with the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 instructions?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> seeeing as that outlook isnt in linux
[12:40] <wizzomafizzo> When Dapper comes out in april, will it be okay to just change the sources.list and do an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> wizzomafizzo: should be
[12:40] <wizzomafizzo> K, thanks.
[12:41] <bimberi> wizzomafizzo: actually a special upgrade tool is being tested - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[12:41] <wizzomafizzo> bimberi: Will that be stable by April?
[12:42] <Bean> _jason, After getting the libwnck-dev, and the many packages it installed because of it, ./configure completed.
[12:42] <bimberi> wizzomafizzo: definitely maybe :)
[12:42] <_jason> Bean: cool, now cross your fingers for make
[12:42] <wizzomafizzo> bimberi: Heh, ok.
[12:42] <_jason> Bean: it might be helpful to update the wiki with those packages you needed
[12:42] <gnomefreak> wizzomafizzo: theres no telling if it will or not until april gets here
[12:43] <maxkelley> wow
[12:43] <maxkelley> quiet.
[12:43] <duckdown> Hey all.. What's a good NES emulator?  Just installed Dapper 4 (Love it, BTW, except for the ugly-arse brown defaults) and I feel like playing some old Dragon Warrior :D
[12:44] <fisne> ok, my root folder is set to /media/hdc5, which is supposed to be /dev/hdc5, and i think this is the reason why it wont boot
[12:44] <fisne> what should i do?
[12:44] <maxkelley> yeah, I don't like the brown.
[12:44] <duckdown> maxkelley: it's horrendous
[12:44] <duckdown> Ubuntu needs to change to a nice GREEN color
[12:44] <bonee> what is the most updated sources.list
[12:44] <h3ax> can't be true no one knows any thing about changeing Language/Keylayout of the Keyboard in linux
[12:44] <wizzomafizzo> Ewww, green.
[12:44] <maxkelley> fisne: try and grab a livecd or something, and see if you can change it from there.
[12:44] <duckdown> jade green
[12:44] <wizzomafizzo> Blue would be better.
[12:44] <duckdown> wizzomafizzo: blue then
[12:44] <duckdown> but kubuntu has blue
[12:44] <maxkelley> h3ax: hehe, still asking since yesterday? :)
[12:44] <progrock> I jsut saved my last session in x when logging out (not on purpose)... and now when i try to startx it hangs when loading xfwm4.... so I uninstalled xfwm4... now I have x running, but no windows manager
[12:44] <maxkelley> silly shuttleworth likes brown.
[12:44] <h3ax> yeah =/
[12:44] <Bean> _jason, /me registers with launchpad. Been a long time since I've made changes to a wiki.
[12:45] <maxkelley> I think it's a poopy colour.
[12:45] <progrock> anyone know anyway to fix this.. or atleast get any windwos manager to run
[12:45] <jetscreamer> h3ax: dpkg-reconfigure locales && dpkg-reconfigure console-data , maybe
[12:45] <h3ax> ive tried every thing i can personally think of
[12:45] <wizzomafizzo> I'm thinking of a bright green, maybe you're thinking of something better. :P
[12:45] <duckdown> maxkelley:  ya it makes Ubuntu look like total crap
[12:45] <duckdown> until you apt-get the gnome-desktops
[12:45] <maxkelley> duckdown: haha.
[12:45] <kc2keo> maxkelly: hey there
[12:45] <maxkelley> hey kc2keo
[12:45] <kc2keo> maxkelley: hi
[12:45] <kc2keo> whoops misspelled name
[12:45] <maxkelley> hehe
[12:45] <kc2keo> bad day I guess
[12:45] <maxkelley> schpeeling
[12:46] <jetscreamer> hey does apt-get moo work in ubuntu?
[12:46] <Seveas> yes
[12:46] <duckdown> the hells moo
[12:46] <jetscreamer> try it and see :)
[12:46] <maxkelley> mmm
[12:46] <progrock> anyone know how to set metacity to be gnomes WM (i had previously replaced it with xfwm4)
[12:46] <kc2keo> moo?
[12:46] <duckdown> moo cow
[12:46] <duckdown> :)
[12:46] <fisne> and yeah, what is journaling file system?
[12:46] <jetscreamer> sudo apt-get moo maybe
[12:46] <Seveas> jetscreamer, no sudo needed 
[12:47] <jetscreamer> even bettar
[12:47] <duckdown> Seveas: how did you do that smiley
[12:47] <jetscreamer> beh-tar
[12:47] <maxkelley> wot smiley?
[12:47] <Seveas> duckdown, simple: 
[12:47] <wizzomafizzo> Magic!
[12:47] <duckdown> Seveas: is that one character?
[12:47] <Seveas> yes
[12:47] <Bean> _jason, the wiki says to run "sudo checkinstall" after running "make install" but the "checkinstall" command isn't found.
[12:47] <duckdown> thats awesome
[12:47] <kc2keo> fisne: journaling file system is kind of like extra cache space or swap space that the ext filesystem uses. Its better than ext2 I think. I think its ext2 with journaling. It functions a lot like ext2 though and has same support
[12:47] <_jason> Seveas: you need to create a factoid for the smiley because that question gets asked everytime you use it :)
[12:47] <duckdown> never seen that
[12:47] <maxkelley> all I see is a question mark..
[12:48] <duckdown> I see a cool ass smiley
[12:48] <Seveas> _jason, ubotu won't accept the  character
[12:48] <jetscreamer> your irc client isn't doing utf8 then
[12:48] <_jason> Bean: sudo apt-get install checkinstall, you should add that too
[12:48] <progrock> no one can help me fix my WM... i dont have one.. so its really hard for me to go search on the web rigth now
[12:48] <maxkelley> mrrf, silly irssi
[12:48] <duckdown>  
[12:48] <_jason> Seveas: just refer to it as the ``seveas smiley''
[12:48] <Bean> _jason, woops, i just saw in the wiki that it says that afterwords. thanks
[12:48] <scelestus> prog use lynx then :)
[12:48] <duckdown> what is tha
[12:48] <duckdown> alt+### ?
[12:48] <kc2keo> progrock: use lynx
[12:48] <kc2keo> lynx is a shell web browser
[12:49] <duckdown> that rocks
[12:49] <kc2keo> there are others
[12:49] <progrock> i know
[12:49] <wizzomafizzo> progrock: How do you not have one?
[12:49] <kc2keo> apt-get install lynx
[12:49] <kc2keo> I think
[12:49] <progrock> i knwo what it is.. i jsut dont consider that in any ways easy to get info
[12:49] <maxkelley> Seveas: try that smiley again, I think I changed the encoding..
[12:49] <maxkelley> kc2keo: yeah
[12:49] <progrock> wizz: my xfwm4 in gnome jsut messed up.. and i had to uninstall it to startx
[12:49] <maxkelley> progrock: it is pretty easy..
[12:49] <kc2keo> please forgive me.. I dont use ubuntu. I use Gentoo and Debian
[12:49] <IdleOne> ()
[12:49] <maxkelley> yay
[12:49] <maxkelley> it worked!
[12:50] <maxkelley> wow.. that is pretty cool.. chinese char, right?
[12:50] <IdleOne> japanese
[12:50] <maxkelley> or, japanese. or something
[12:50] <Seveas> katakana
[12:50] <maxkelley> one of the eses :)
[12:50] <scelestus> looks like a solid black rectangle here
[12:50] <maxkelley> scelestus: use utf8
[12:50] <kc2keo> progrock: what windows manager do you use?
[12:50] <wizzomafizzo> progrock: You're gonna have to use lynx or some variant of it, or else use something like fluxbox or evilwm for now?
[12:50] <kc2keo> i'm not familiar with xfwm4 if it is a wm
[12:51] <maxkelley> kc2keo: xfce..
[12:51] <twitch101> so how do i compile a .tar.gz
[12:51] <kc2keo> ok
[12:51] <maxkelley> twitch101: untar it, type ./configure, then make, then (optionally) make install
[12:51] <startxwhite>  thanks guys!
[12:52] <kc2keo> twitch101: you wanna make a tarball or extract
[12:52] <progrock> kckeo: i was using gnome with xfwm4
[12:52] <maxkelley> maxkelley: need step-by-step instructions?
[12:52] <maxkelley> er...
[12:52] <maxkelley> that's me.
[12:52] <kc2keo> tar zxvf tarballname.tar.gz
[12:52] <progrock> i think if i delete my gnomerc it might defaut to metacity
[12:52] <maxkelley> er, he left.
[12:52] <progrock> brb, worth a try
[12:52] <wizzomafizzo> twitch101: Make sure you at least have build-essential installed too.
[12:52] <wizzomafizzo> Nevermind..
[12:52] <maxkelley> ehehehe
[12:52] <pbransford> Anyone know if hoary supports Atheros chipset wifi out of the box?
[12:53] <maxkelley> isn't deleting your gnomerc fatal? :P
[12:53] <stpere> pbransford, breezy does
[12:53] <pbransford> schweet
[12:53] <stpere> pbransford, and I think hoary does too
[12:53] <kc2keo> I use madwifi drivers for Atheros
[12:53] <maxkelley> which one is the latest? hoary or breezy?
[12:53] <pbransford> stpere, do you know if debian does also? (lookinf gor as many options as possible :) )
[12:53] <stpere> maxkelley, breezy
[12:53] <brenner> trivia question: how do you add a new gnome panel if you deleted the 2 default ones
[12:53] <stpere> pbransford, you simply need to get madwifi drivers
[12:53] <maxkelley> heh.. I use it myself, and I still don't know the name :)
[12:53] <pbransford> ok, is there a breezy netinst ISO that it would work through?
[12:54] <maxkelley> pbransford: we have no netinst.
[12:54] <wizzomafizzo> I don't think ubuntu provides netinst cds do they?
[12:54] <pbransford> so i have to do the whole CD?
[12:54] <maxkelley> if you configure apt correctly, you can do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:54] <Formidable> I need help with teamspeak2/true combat: elite!!!! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137654&highlight=Teamspeak
[12:54] <maxkelley> certain repositories or something
[12:54] <janno1> MacSlow: are you here?
[12:54] <pbransford> maxkelley, i don't have an existing installation
[12:54] <maxkelley> pbransford: take a look at the wiki, search for dist-upgrade
[12:54] <maxkelley> ah
[12:54] <Seveas> brenner, run the gnome-panel command 
[12:54] <maxkelley> well, then don't do that :)
[12:54] <kc2keo> I installed madwifi drivers within Gentoo. Maybe its apt-get install madwifi-driver. I had to unmask my portage package to emerge it
[12:54] <pbransford> i have a crapped up SuSE install though :)
[12:55] <scelestus> lol
[12:55] <maxkelley> kc2keo: possibly.. probably.
[12:55] <scelestus> thats redundant
[12:55] <pbransford> kc2keo so gentoo has it as well? sweet.
[12:55] <Seveas> kc2keo, madwifi is installed by defaut on Ubuntu
[12:55] <pbransford> but i feel lazy
[12:55] <kc2keo> yes it does
[12:55] <maxkelley> i thought madwifi was installed by def..
[12:55] <kc2keo> it works the best
[12:55] <pbransford> i shoulda figured gentoo would have it. well i have a 2005.1 install cd somewhere
[12:55] <bimberi> pbransford: there are some 'advanced' install methods described via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[12:55] <maxkelley> helawo-wo-wo
[12:55] <kc2keo> I wouldnt get prism chipsets as from research I found that wireless cards with madwifi work better
[12:55] <pbransford> and a packages CD if i could figure out how to use it, but thats for another channel
[12:55] <wizzomafizzo> Be a man! Spend 9 hours typing to install your operating system.
[12:56] <duckdown> Is there an NES Emulator I can apt-get ?
[12:56] <maxkelley> wizzomafizzo: eheheh
[12:56] <scelestus> mwahaha
[12:56] <Seveas> duckdown, apt-cache search nes (zsnes is one)
[12:56] <pbransford> Hehe, i got a Netgear WG511T. i saw on a list it was madwifi supported
[12:56] <pbransford> and it was cheap
[12:56] <wizzomafizzo> duckdown: Did you try apt-cache search nes?
[12:56] <duckdown> Seveas:  neeto thanks
[12:56] <brenner> Seveas: ah. thanks.  i was wondering how it would be done.  just seems like a bad decision to put the creation option on something you could possibly remove
[12:56] <wizzomafizzo> Or something like that.
[12:56] <kc2keo> madwifi does not work with all Atheros chipsets
[12:56] <mjr> madwifi might work, but it's non-free; wouldn't prefer it were I the purchaser
[12:56] <maxkelley> pbransford: yeah, you need a boot disk or something, then you specify that your packages are either from net, someplace else, or cd :P
[12:56] <pbransford> don't care that it can do "108mbps!!!!one!eleven"
[12:56] <duckdown> wizzomafizzo: cool sorry, ill check now
[12:56] <maxkelley> pbransford: that's what I'm assuming.. makes sense :)
[12:56] <kc2keo> I'd stay away from MIMO also. Just thought i'd mention that
[12:56] <pbransford> brb
[12:56] <kc2keo> D-Links are sexy
[12:56] <wizzomafizzo> duckdown: Yeah, there's bound to be one.
[12:56] <maxkelley> all I know is the packages disk didn't boot for me :P
[12:57] <Rob_Dude> Can someone help me.  I'm really hungry....I tried 'sudo apt-get Pizza-Hut' but I got an 'Out of Delivery Zone Error'.  I looked in my /etc/pizza.conf but everything looks right to me.
[12:57] <pbransford> kc2keo if it aint vanilla 802.11x i don't use it :)
[12:57] <scelestus> whats the best 802.11g card for Ubuntu?
[12:57] <Seveas> Rob_Dude, food questions in the offtopic channel please...
[12:57] <maxkelley> Rob_Dude: you're going to have to go to the local Pizza-Hut and tell them to update their /etc/toppings.conf for you..
[12:57] <[t0rc] > CTRL-ALT-BackSpace = restart window manager right?
[12:57] <Rob_Dude> Aww, I was just having some fun :)  My fault.
[12:57] <fisne> so swap should be logical or primary?
[12:57] <maxkelley> [t0rc] : yes
[12:57] <Seveas> [t0rc] , no
[12:57] <_jason> [t0rc] : restart X
[12:57] <maxkelley> oh, yeah
[12:57] <Seveas> [t0rc] , restart X, not just the WM
[12:57] <maxkelley> same thing :P
[12:58] <kc2keo> I found that the DWL-G520 D-Link PCI card for my desktop works great. I'm pretty sure that it should work in most others Linux distros
[12:58] <fisne> ?
[12:58] <wizzomafizzo> It doesn't restart it. O.o
[12:58] <wizzomafizzo> It just kills it.
[12:58] <Ng> it means kill X, which may imply restarting X</pedant> ;)
[12:58] <mjr> not really, and it's not really "restart" either, it's a kill command, that X gets restarted is just coincidental :] 
[12:58] <bimberi> fisne: either
[12:58] <kc2keo> For laptops the D-Link PCMCIA DWL-G650 is good
[12:58] <fisne> ic
[12:58] <Seveas> Ng, true, true
[12:58] <stpere> scelestus, same here
[12:58] <scelestus> clarification:  what is the best PC card 802.11g card for Ubuntu
[12:58] <maxkelley> X often refuses to kill itself *completely*
[12:58] <wizzomafizzo> Zapping X to restart only seems to work in Ubuntu.
[12:58] <kc2keo> be careful of the G650's. Dont get the G650+ or something
[12:58] <maxkelley> it still hides in places..
[12:58] <stpere> scelestus, DWL-G520
[12:59] <Seveas> scelestus, any card that runs with free drivers (intel chips for instance)
[12:59] <fisne> ok, my root folder is set to /media/hdc5, which is supposed to be /dev/hdc5, and i think this is the reason why it wont boot and what should i do?
[12:59] <wizzomafizzo> Because of GDM trickery.
[12:59] <Ng> wizzomafizzo: it's often disabled by default
[12:59] <stpere> scelestus, oh sorry, misread
[12:59] <kc2keo> STAY AWAY FROM ndiswrapper
[12:59] <maxkelley> am I the only one, or is it everyone where if I switch to a diff virt terminal, it kills X?
[12:59] <fisne> rename it?
[12:59] <Ng> wizzomafizzo: but anywhere gdm/kdm/xdm is running and Zap is allowed it should imply restarting X
[12:59] <newbie22> hi
[12:59] <fisne> anyone?
[12:59] <Ng> maxkelley: possibly not the only one, but that shouldn't happen
[12:59] <newbie22> how can i play sound (alsa) in more than 1 program?
[12:59] <wizzomafizzo> Ng: Can't stand that, makes me fell like I've got less control.
[12:59] <bimberi> maxkelley: that happens on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 500m)
[12:59] <wizzomafizzo> Like I'm in Windows.
[01:00] <Ng> maxkelley: are you running a graphical framebuffer or something? if not (or perhaps still if), it sounds like an X driver bug. Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log finish with any relevant looking errors?
[01:00] <bimberi> maxkelley: ctrl-alt-f1, ctrl-alt-f7 and gdm restarts
[01:00] <maxkelley> hmm
[01:00] <Rob_Dude> I've installed mySQL just now; and I've used it in Windows before.  I'm unable to log into it though, I've got a MySQL Administrator GUI (yeah, kind of cheating, I know) but I can't log in because I don't know the correct user/pass
[01:00] <maxkelley> bbl.
[01:00] <KOXAKI> hello
[01:00] <Seveas> Rob_Dude, user root, no password
[01:00] <mikebot> in thunderbird, i can't set different outgoing servers, depending on which email i want to send an email from?
[01:00] <wizzomafizzo> Rob_Dude: You probably have to SET the root password for it.
[01:00] <Seveas> change immediately after logging in 
[01:01] <newbie22> how can i play sound (alsa) in more than 1 program?
[01:01] <KOXAKI> i need help, anyone is free to help me ?
[01:01] <kc2keo> to kill your X just do ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:01] <pbransford> anyone know how to work monitor mode? (assuming madwifi allows it)
[01:01] <kc2keo> if you need to forcekill it
[01:01] <Seveas> !tell KOXAKI about anyone
[01:01] <Rob_Dude> ty Seveas
[01:01] <Formidable> Anyone here play True Combat: Elite?
[01:01] <wizzomafizzo> KOXAKI: Don't ask to ask.
[01:01] <Seveas> Formidable, I play gcc with the ld addon ;)
[01:01] <progrock> Well.. i finally found the session file.. and deleted that... all seems well now
[01:02] <aboapri> IDEAL! embedded video finally works!    thanks guys....    and robot.
[01:02] <thrended> ctrl-alt-backspace, would that fix this? when I tried the Live CD it had a mesage like "X Server isn't working"
[01:02] <Rob_Dude> Is there an 'apt-get' to install FireFox 1.5?
[01:02] <IdleOne> !ff1.5
[01:02] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:02] <Seveas> Rob_Dude, on breezy: no, it would break far too much
[01:02] <kc2keo> pbransford: I dont think I do. What card do you have and do you have madwifi installed? Can you connect wirelessly yet?
[01:03] <h3ax> arg wont waork
[01:03] <h3ax> work
[01:03] <h3ax> *
[01:03] <wizzomafizzo> Hmmm, why would it break?
[01:03] <Rob_Dude> Seveas:  Break?  er, how do you mean?
[01:03] <pbransford> kc2keo: don't even have a linux system up yet, but I have a netgear WG511T
[01:03] <Seveas> wizzomafizzo, many apps use firefox libs, change the version of the default FF and they break
[01:03] <orz> Is it possible to use dual monitors with Ubuntu?
[01:03] <pbransford> kc2keo: in Phlak i set it to monitor mode and the blink pattern changed but I didn't try sniffing
[01:04] <IdleOne> !dualmonitor
[01:04] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, IdleOne
[01:04] <scelestus> I use FF 1.5
[01:04] <scelestus> in breezy
[01:04] <wizzomafizzo> Seveas: Ah ok. Seems kind of a drag Ubuntu and Debian are like that.
[01:04] <Alashua> where can i get video editing software?
[01:04] <wizzomafizzo> At least Ubuntu have regular releases though.
[01:04] <Seveas> wizzomafizzo, that's not just ubuntu and debian...
[01:04] <mikebot> does anyone know about outgoing mail in thunderbird?
[01:04] <wizzomafizzo> Well from what distros I've used.
[01:04] <pbransford> anyone know if hoary has mad-wifi on the disk for install?
[01:04] <wizzomafizzo> I imagine it's for anything based upon Debian also?
[01:04] <Ng> mikebot: no, but I'm pretty sure tbird 1.5 can do that, but you'd have to install it by hand
[01:04] <pbransford> mikebot: wats up
[01:04] <Seveas> pbransford, yes it has (not avaiable during install though)
[01:05] <mikebot> gnu2it2: oh okay
[01:05] <pbransford> Seveas, so after install I can install it to get net access right? (assume no net untill madwifi installed)
[01:05] <mikebot> pbransford: i want to have multiple outgoing servers, so i can send email from different accounts
[01:05] <Seveas> pbransford, no it will be installed during install
[01:06] <Seveas> pbransford, it's just the installer itself that cannot use it
[01:06] <pbransford> mikebot: i think all the accounts use the same outgoing, don't believe you can set per-account outgoings. Evolution might let you though
[01:06] <kc2keo> pbransford: Heres something. I think your card uses the prism54 drivers
[01:06] <kc2keo> http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/15-802.11g-Netgear-WG511-and-Linux.html
[01:06] <Formidable> Can someone please help me solve my sound issue..
[01:06] <pbransford> Seveas, so it's on the disk? maybe i can modprobe it
[01:06] <Seveas> pbransford, correct, evolution can 
[01:06] <scelestus> madwifi is already installed with breezy?
[01:06] <KOXAKI> im using ubuntu live cd and i downloaded vlc player a .deb file and i dont know how to install it
[01:06] <KOXAKI> can u help me
[01:06] <kc2keo> hmm
[01:06] <Seveas> pbransford, you can't (i hate that too - atheros card in this laptop)
[01:06] <Seveas> scelestus, yes
[01:06] <kc2keo> oh, maybe its the atheros-superg driver
[01:06] <mikebot> pbransford: well cause my outgoing for gmail is gmail.outgoing, but my outgoing server for my school email is doifferent
[01:06] <mikebot> pbransford: can i still send emails from each account?
[01:06] <kc2keo> just google search:
[01:06] <kc2keo> WG511T chipset
[01:06] <scelestus> Seveas how do you configure it?
[01:07] <pbransford> kc2keo i have WG511T not WG511, they can have a completely different chip
[01:07] <kc2keo> yeah, I realized that
[01:07] <Bean> _jason, sweet, just made my first .ds file .
[01:07] <kc2keo> you use the madwifi
[01:07] <Bean> _jason,  (that works :) )
[01:07] <Seveas> scelestus, same way as any other network card, in /etc/network/interfaces  (or with the gnome tool)
[01:07] <thrended> hello, I have a zv6000, will I have to follow the installation steps at the bottom of this page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsHewlettPackard
[01:07] <_jason> Bean: ah cool
[01:07] <wizzomafizzo> KOXAKI: You can dpkg -i <name>.deb but being the livecd I doubt it will even install. Let alone run well.
[01:08] <pbransford> think I'll use jigdo to download...
[01:08] <wizzomafizzo> You will probably have dependencies issues too.
[01:08] <KOXAKI> wizzomafizzo, i dont have a harddrive ath the moment, is it possible to some other way to hear an mp3 file ?
[01:08] <felixfoertsch> Hi there! Is there anyone who could help me installing an ATI graphicscard? I've got an ATI Radeon 9600XT - running on a Asus P4P800 Mainboard. I apt-get'ted the fglrx drivers already.
[01:08] <felixfoertsch> But it stil does not work.
[01:09] <pbransford> jigdo uses wget, right?
[01:09] <wizzomafizzo> KOXAKI: Not really sure but from experience you can't really install anything with the livecd.
[01:09] <B_166-ER-X> what program should i use to extract CD's to Mp3 on ubuntu breezy ?
[01:09] <KOXAKI> ahh, okay thanks for the help
[01:10] <brenner> felixfoertsch: did you switch to the fglrx drivers?
[01:10] <emergence> Please check out my partitions: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VfT5Ut15.html       Is there a way to make my extended partition of my NTFS partition into a primary partition? Like I think it's possible because in the end there will only be three partitions: NTFS, swap, ext3
[01:10] <felixfoertsch> hrm - I'm an absolutly newbie in Linux. Don't know exactly :)
[01:11] <brenner> felixfoertsch: that's a no then i guess. :)  check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:11] <scelestus> sorry I lost it..what was the best 802.11g PC carc for Ubuntu?
[01:11] <bimberi> B_166-ER-X: sound-juicer can, but requires mp3 libraries to be installed.  Either the RestrictedFormats wiki page or the forums can help with that
[01:11] <felixfoertsch> Oh that page. Jep I ran through it!
[01:11] <danis1911> hey can anyone tell me how to get the sound on google video to work in ubuntu?
[01:12] <felixfoertsch> First I tried the second way - with installing the drivers from ati.com - and then the first one.
[01:12] <FlannelKing> B_166-ER-X: sound juicer can do it, but it doesn't do name lookups, I use Grip, it includes CDDB stuffs.
[01:12] <B_166-ER-X> okay
[01:12] <brenner> felixfoertsch: pastebin your xorg.conf file
[01:12] <iBalo> The thing with felixfoertsch 's problem is that we walked him already through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg stuff in #ubuntu-de, but the hardware 3d isn't working...
[01:12] <FlannelKing> DWL-G520 is what they said scelestus
[01:12] <felixfoertsch> Thanks iBalo :)
[01:12] <danis1911> can somebody help me plz?
[01:12] <scelestus> is that a pc card or pci card?
[01:12] <stpere> scelestus, pci
[01:13] <gnat> felixfoertsch, sorry missed the question, but what are you trying to do with which card?
[01:13] <thrended> I have a question about installation of ubuntu
[01:13] <scelestus> I need PC card
[01:13] <danis1911> why doesnt the sound in google video work?
[01:13] <IdleOne> thrended:  ask away
[01:13] <felixfoertsch> gnat, I triy to install it.
[01:13] <brenner> felixfoertsch: does 'fglrxinfo' show ati, or mesa?
[01:13] <harrison> can anyone tell me how to restart my x server?
[01:13] <felixfoertsch> -i
[01:13] <IdleOne> danielg:  be patient ()
[01:13] <brenner> harrison: ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:13] <IdleOne> danis1911: ^
[01:14] <harrison> thx brenner
[01:14] <gnat> felixfoertsch, you have single or dual monitors?
[01:14] <thrended> thank you, if I have an HP zv6000, do I need to follow special instructions? (here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsHewlettPackard )
[01:14] <felixfoertsch> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:14] <felixfoertsch> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:14] <felixfoertsch> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[01:14] <felixfoertsch> gnat, single
[01:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> danis1911: Do you have totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?  Do you have the w32codecs installed?
[01:14] <pbransford> if i install mad-wifi, my card should then "just work"?
[01:14] <gnat> you want 3d accel?
[01:14] <iceman> !codec
[01:14] <ubotu> iceman: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:14] <pbransford> or do i need to edit anything
[01:14] <felixfoertsch> Exactly - I want my card working ;)
[01:14] <_jason> iceman: what do you need?
[01:15] <iceman> !codex
[01:15] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iceman
[01:15] <danis1911> how do I respond to someone?
[01:15] <iceman> _jason video codex for linux
[01:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> danis1911: By saying something in here...?
[01:15] <_jason> danis1911: write the beginning of their name, press tab, and then type something
[01:15] <danis1911> _jason, thx
[01:15] <pbransford> _jason, that assumes they have nick completion
[01:16] <felixfoertsch> brenner, have you seen what I've pasted?
[01:16] <_jason> pbransford: he probably does
[01:16] <_jason> see :)
[01:16] <DokuOtoko> looks like he's using xchat, like me
[01:16] <pbransford> i dont :( it hops to a different input field
[01:16] <brenner> ubotu: tell iceman about restricted
[01:16] <Alashua> is there a place to get codecs for most purposes?
[01:16] <iceman> where to download the video playback codec
[01:16] <felixfoertsch> Or shall I paste it again?
[01:16] <DokuOtoko> Alashua, mplayerhq.hu
[01:16] <danis1911> PuMpErNiCkLe, ok i dont have w32codecs, unless they come with ubuntu
[01:16] <_jason> pbransford: what client?
[01:16] <pbransford> ubotu: tell pbransford about restricted
[01:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> danis1911: Nope, they don't.
[01:16] <pbransford> bersirc
[01:16] <IdleOne> felixfoertsch:  dont paste in here please
[01:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell iceman about multimedia
[01:16] <DokuOtoko> !restricted
[01:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !w32codecs
[01:16] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:16] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:16] <Alashua> dokuotoku, thanks
[01:16] <brenner> felixfoertsch: yes.  it's using s/ware rendering for 3d.  just to confirm, run: glxinfo | grep Rendering
[01:17] <danis1911> PuMpErNiCkLe, ok can you link to where I can get them plz?
[01:17] <pbransford> windows here, for now
[01:17] <humon> what's a good HDD diagnostics tool for linux?
[01:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> danis1911: Up three lines... what ubotu said.
[01:17] <thrended> IdleOne, if I have an HP zv6000, do I need to follow special instructions? (here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsHewlettPackard )
[01:17] <Alashua> this place is proving to be most helpful
[01:17] <danis1911> PuMpErNiCkLe, ty
[01:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> danis1911: np
[01:17] <_jason> pbransford: I see, just interested in ubuntu then?
[01:17] <IdleOne> thrended:  I dont use or know about laptops but Im sure someone in here can help
[01:18] <pbransford> _jason, im in disto limbo really
[01:18] <thrended> IdleOne: ok
[01:18] <danis1911> PuMpErNiCkLe, when I do this respond thing, can everyone else still see it?
[01:18] <pbransford> danis1911, yes
[01:18] <DokuOtoko> danis1911, hiya :P
[01:18] <wizzomafizzo> pbtransford: Tried Ubuntu before?
[01:18] <scelestus> what command do you type to see your kernel version you are running?
[01:18] <gnat> felixfoertsch, do you know what driver you are using fglrx, ati or radeon?
[01:18] <pbransford> danis1911, try this without quotes: "msg TARGETNICK testing..."
[01:19] <harrison> can anyone tell me if i can run xgl and compiz on an intel i810 driver?
[01:19] <Anti-Proton> Question question: Anyone else having problems with the repositories today?
[01:19] <pbransford> sends a pm to TARGETNICK with message "testing..."
[01:19] <DokuOtoko> pbransford, doesn't it need a slash at the start?
[01:19] <felixfoertsch> gnat, I think I recently installed fglrx - but it seems that it does not work
[01:19] <pbransford> typo
[01:19] <pbransford> add a "/" to it so it starts "/msg"
[01:19] <gnat> felixfoertsch, Well I have a Radeon 9000Pro, dual monitors
[01:19] <felixfoertsch> brenner, what to do after running the cmds?
[01:19] <onkko> Hello, i have a intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics , works with i810 driver in Xorg. I want to know if i could the transparency on xorg ( sorry for my english) ?
[01:19] <_jason> pbransford: you need to be registered here to /msg
[01:19] <gnat> felixfoertsch, I found flgrx to be a pain
[01:19] <felixfoertsch> gnat, my card is a Radeon 9600 XT, single monitor
[01:20] <brenner> gnat: actually, i think the flgrx driver *does* work for him, he just doesn
[01:20] <gnat> felixfoertsch, so switched from the fglrx to radeon
[01:20] <Anti-Proton> specifically ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:20] <brenner> *doesn't get 3d rendering
[01:20] <gnat> brenner, yeah, the flgrx should have worked for me as well
[01:20] <gnat> it did, work, no 3d rendering
[01:20] <brenner> me too. :)
[01:20] <pbransford> i've got a "radeon" IGP 340M
[01:20] <brenner> same here
[01:20] <gnat> however I found the OSS radeon driver worked for me
[01:20] <gnat> instead
[01:20] <Rob_Dude> Gah!  I thought OpenOffice could open Excel files from Office?
[01:21] <thrended> question: is there anything I need to figure out before installation or can I simply install it and fix any problems afterwards?
[01:21] <gnat> it does support 3d rendering as well
[01:21] <pbransford> i put radeon in quotes because it actually doesn't work with ANY radeon drivers, linux or windows
[01:21] <onkko> Hello, i have a intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics , works with i810 driver in Xorg. I want to know if i could the transparency on xorg ( sorry for my english) ?
[01:21] <gnat> and doesn't require all the crap the fglrx did
[01:21] <brenner> gnat: OSS radeon driver?  as in the one in the kernel?
[01:21] <Rob_Dude> Every time I try to open a .xls file it crashes Open Office.  Is tehre something I'm doing wrong?
[01:21] <pbransford> c/me mutters "peice of crap flakey engineering"
[01:22] <pbransford> oops
[01:22] <IdleOne> can we keep the language clean please
[01:22] <Nico__> I need some information
[01:22] <IdleOne> whats up Nico__
[01:22] <brenner> pbransford: most ati owners are just nodding their heads right now :)
[01:22] <Nico__> Alright
[01:22] <Nico__> 45 CDs requested in 2006-02-03. 45 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-02-08. Please note requests usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.
[01:23] <pbransford> brenner: not even really ATI. kinda HP.
[01:23] <thrended> IdleOne, if I just install ubuntu right now, do I have to worry about any problems, or can I fix them after installation
[01:23] <Nico__> Thats over a month ago, i live in finland, how long do i still have to wait?
[01:23] <Nico__> well its almost exactly a month.
[01:23] <stpere> Nico__, it probably means the customs has examined the package
[01:23] <brenner> pbransford: does lspci show ati though?
[01:23] <Nico__> stpere is that bad? o.O
[01:23] <felixfoertsch> brenner, gnat, what do you recommend?
[01:23] <IdleOne> thrended:  the install should go without a hitch but I cant garuntee ;/
[01:23] <Rob_Dude> Crap - um, even if I disable macros it fails.  Does OpenOffice support macros?  Er, hmmpphh
[01:23] <pbransford> brenner: no linux system yet, can't check
[01:23] <gnat> Brendon, not as in the OSS sound stuff but yeah the kernel
[01:23] <brenner> gnat: i'd be interested in trying out the said drivers.  do you have any links?
[01:24] <gnat> my xorg.conf says radeon instead of ati
[01:24] <gnat> comes installed
[01:24] <thrended> IdleOne, what does this mean "Pass linux noapic debian-installer/framebuffer=false to the kernel when booting the installer"
[01:24] <gnat> I needed it to get my dual monitor setup working
[01:24] <stpere> Nico__, no.. not really.. there is a letter pasted on the package stating it's free, so they shouldn't charge anything
[01:24] <brenner> gnat: ah
[01:24] <gnat> I don't have 3d hardware accel on it with dual monitors
[01:24] <gnat> but it supports it
[01:24] <Nico__> ok
[01:24] <stpere> Nico__, but there is some latency
[01:24] <brenner> felixfoertsch: have you tried the radeon driver as gnat suggeted?
[01:24] <Nico__> what do you mean
[01:25] <stpere> Nico__, well.. there is some time needed to take that decision
[01:25] <felixfoertsch> brenner, no I did not - because I don't even know where to get them!
[01:25] <Nico__> What decision? ;\
[01:25] <Nico__> lol
[01:25] <Nico__> sorry
[01:25] <stpere> Nico__, they have to evaluate the value of the package
[01:25] <Nico__> Oh
[01:25] <Nico__> But if its free? :S
[01:26] <stpere> Nico__, and charge taxes if needed (well.. at first they don't know it's free)
[01:26] <harrison> can anyone shed some light on the xgl and compiz situation?  is this going to be released in 2006.04?
[01:26] <gnat> felixfoertsch, you shouldn't have to do anything, comes with ubuntu
[01:26] <brenner> felixfoertsch: they're provided with the kernel. assuming you're currently using fglrx, try: sudo sed -e 's/"fglrxi"/"radeon"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <stpere> Nico__, wait a few days more
[01:26] <Nico__> Ok.
[01:26] <gnat> let me see where they are on my system (note, I just moved from breezy to dapper just for fun...)
[01:26] <brenner> felixfoertsch: then restart X
[01:26] <iBalo> harrison: that's a good question to ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:26] <harrison> shit sorry...
[01:27] <felixfoertsch> brenner,  it tells me "sed: can't read /etc/X11/xorg.conf#: No such file or directory
[01:27] <felixfoertsch> "
[01:27] <brenner> gnat: thing is though, would my card be supported by the radeon driver?  this is a fairly new laptop.  the card is an onboard ati xpress 200m
[01:27] <[Leo] > hi all
[01:27] <gnat> brenner,let me check
[01:27] <brenner> felixfoertsch: my only guess is you did a typo somewhere
[01:28] <gnat> brenner, man radeon
[01:28] <saif> hello, i am installing an application and they asked me where i want to install the user command line links, where should i put them in order to be added to the app menu?
[01:28] <brenner> felixfoertsch: my guess in particular is the # character at the end
[01:28] <gnat> gives a list of supported hardware & xorg.conf options
[01:28] <iceman> ok how do i find a link to multiverse librarys ...
[01:28] <brenner> gnat: ah, nice. thanks
[01:28] <thrended> I need help! Are the instructions here necessary before or after installation of Ubuntu for zv6000? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsHewlettPackard
[01:29] <LjL> saif: i don't think that's what the installer is asking about. menu items are a different thing from links
[01:29] <brenner> gnat: and just to confirm, they should provide 3d support?
[01:29] <gnat> well
[01:29] <bimberi> saif: is there a default offered?
[01:29] <gnat> I'm just looking over the docs now
[01:29] <gnat> it may not have 3d accel for the newer ones... just reading
[01:29] <LjL> saif: i suppose you'll have to add menu items manually if the installer won't do that automatically. also, are you sure you couldn't find a .deb version of the program you're installing?
[01:29] <gnat> you said Xpress 200 ?
[01:29] <felixfoertsch> brenner, should it produce some kind of status report after using the cmd?
[01:29] <brenner> 200m, yes
[01:29] <saif> the default was in my home folder, LjL bimberi
[01:29] <gnat> Brendon,  RS400       Radeon XPRESS 200/200M IGP
[01:29] <brenner> felixfoertsch: no. it should just go to the next line
[01:30] <gnat> looks supported
[01:30] <gnat> other cards have (2d only) beside them if they don't support the 3d stuff.
[01:30] <Bean> where does xchat store chat logs by default?
[01:30] <LjL> saif: i'm not sure why an application would ask you where to place symlinks to its executables -- actually, i'm not sure why it should *create* symlinks to its executables
[01:30] <brenner> gnat: sweet thanks.  i'll try it out
[01:30] <felixfoertsch> brenner, okay - and now how to check if it's working?
[01:30] <gnat> felixfoertsch, restart X
[01:30] <Bean> oh woops, forgot to enable logging :/
[01:30] <Bean> _jason, what were those packages I installed again?
[01:30] <felixfoertsch> okay
[01:31] <felixfoertsch> brb
[01:31] <saif> LjL, usualy are those links put /bin?
[01:31] <chp43> LjL: its pretty common for programs that install themselves into local, to symlink to /usr/local/bin
[01:31] <brenner> gnat: it's weird though.  i had fglrx working on this box before.  i don't know why the install failed this time
[01:31] <bimberi> saif: is a .deb package?
[01:32] <thrended> can anyone help me, please
[01:32] <mikebot> why is it that in thunderbird my school accoutn has it's own folder thing on the left menu, but all my other accounts don't appear there, and are under local folders?
[01:32] <LjL> saif: applications should usually install the executables into /usr/local/bin. /bin should by all means be off-limit for normal applications
[01:32] <gnat> brenner, yeah, I found the installation stuff a pain
[01:32] <brenner> thrended: don't ask to ask
[01:32] <saif> bimberi, no, .bin
[01:32] <gnat> brenner, it has to compile some of the stuff if I remember correctly, and I could never get it to work properly.
[01:32] <LjL> chp43: where do you mean by "installing into local"? like, /usr/local/applicationname and then linking to /usr/local/bin?
[01:32] <Nico__> ill be back in a few days to tell if i got my cds.
[01:32] <bimberi> saif: ok, yes i'd go for /usr/local/bin
[01:32] <brenner> gnat: well i'll keep my fingers crossed with the radeon.  thanks for the info.
[01:32] <Nico__> thanks again s
[01:33] <Nico__> stpere*
[01:33] <Rob_Dude> What sort of macro-support does OpenOffice's Calc thing have?  Can you use VBscript that works in Excel in OpenOffice?
[01:33] <gnat> brenner, no problem, hopefully it works for you as well
[01:33] <LjL> saif: what program is that, out of curiosity?
[01:33] <felixfoertsch> re
[01:33] <saif> bimberi, ok! i know it's not much of a big deal, but i want everything to  be where it should be! poseidon for uml LjL
[01:33] <xanavim> !ati
[01:33] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:33] <stpere> Nico__, you're welcome
[01:33] <felixfoertsch> brenner, now - how do I check if the drivers are working?
[01:33] <thrended> brenner: I'm not sure when I must do this, and what it does for ubuntu installation "Pass linux noapic debian-installer/framebuffer=false to the kernel when booting the installer"
[01:33] <anto9us> Rob_Dude, I seem to recall seeing a converter for vba to starbasic
[01:34] <chp43> LjL: yeah. happens when you install apps that don't adhere to the filesystem standards... ie they put all their files into one large directory (rather than split into bin lib share, etc), and then place symlinks. limewire comes to mind. a few others
[01:34] <Rob_Dude> anto9us:  Thanks I'll try to find that
[01:34] <bjornkri> Is there a 'proper' place for shared wallpapers and such?
[01:34] <_jason> Bean: libxml-parser-perl, apt-cache search --names-only lib wnck
[01:34] <brenner> gnat: actually, re-reading the man page. it says no 3d support for igp cards. :-/
[01:34] <anto9us> Rob_Dude, there's also a plugin for Python if that's any help
[01:34] <brenner> felixfoertsch: glxinfo | grep Rendering
[01:34] <Shadyman> bjornkri: I put it in ~/wallpapers
[01:34] <bjornkri> It sounds a bit stupid, but I'm still getting used to the whole directory structure of Linux
[01:34] <LjL> chp43: oh well, at least they don't think they know what the filesystem works like and scatter random files through it ;)
[01:35] <Shadyman> How come Ubuntu isn't listed in linuxiso.org?
[01:35] <brenner> felixfoertsch: didn't you say you had a 9600XT?
[01:35] <felixfoertsch> Jep - I said that.
[01:35] <bimberi> saif: my rule of thumb is to put self-installed applications under /opt and my own programs/sripts under /usr/local - that keeps things out of the way of the package manager
[01:35] <chp43> LjL: i guess so.. the standards are published. everyone just needs to get on the same page and away from their own proprietary approaches
[01:35] <saif> Brendon, i was trying to get the 200m to get any display on ubuntu, and it finally worked today, but still fglrxinfo gives me mesa, so if u need to get there maybe i can help! :)
[01:36] <anto9us> bjornkri, /usr/shared/backgrounds also type info hier
[01:36] <Jae686> have you ran the config sript?
[01:36] <LjL> chp43: yeah but then i guess putting everything in a single directory is not the worst of possible evils, given we know that people *don't* follow standards
[01:36] <Jae686> you cant jst apt the driver
[01:36] <thrended> brenner: I'm not sure when I must do this, and what it does for ubuntu installation "Pass 'linux noapic debian-installer/framebuffer=false' to the kernel when booting the installer"
[01:36] <gnat> brenner, oh, sorry
[01:36] <Jae686> you must frun the flrgx config from a terminal
[01:36] <bjornkri> hmm, makes sense, thanks
[01:37] <brenner> saif: i'm running the fglrx driver.  i'm just not getting 3d, much like you i assume
[01:37] <Bean> _jason, if you can, please check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Devilspie#preview . My edit is right above step 5.
[01:37] <Bean> _jason, want to know that it's a satisfactory addition.
[01:37] <saif> brenner, yup! :)
[01:38] <mikebot> !nvidia
[01:38] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:38] <bimberi> thrended: you type that at the boot prompt after booting from the install CD
[01:38] <brenner> thrended: what's telling you to do that?
[01:38] <saif> brenner, but i dont 3d so i am happy where i am!#
[01:38] <brenner> saif: me too sort of.  but it'd still be nice to have it
[01:38] <felixfoertsch> brenner, you are right - I said that I've got a Radeon 9600 XT.
[01:38] <thrended> bimberi/brenner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsHewlettPackard at the end, for zv6000
[01:39] <_jason> Bean: i think it's libwnck with a 'w', it may be helpful to just add another step with apt-get install <those pacakges> before the ./configure
[01:39] <brenner> felixfoertsch: i thik we're on the wrong track.  the man page for radeon says it has 2d only support for your card
[01:39] <[Leo] > good night
[01:39] <[Leo] > bye
[01:39] <felixfoertsch> Damnd - and now?
[01:39] <sdfzx> !seen idle0ne
[01:39] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'idle0ne', sdfzx
[01:40] <sdfzx> !where idle0ne
[01:40] <ubotu> sdfzx: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:40] <brenner> thrended: ah, ok. well bimberi's told you
[01:40] <Bean> _jason, yeah i noticed that the v got in there, dunno how that happened since I was using copy/paste. I guess I should add the other step since I'm running a fairly basic install and others are likely to have the same missing packages.
[01:40] <_jason> Bean: yep, good idea
[01:41] <bobbe> hey
[01:41] <bobbe> anyone there using a winmodem on ubuntu
[01:41] <brenner> felixfoertsch: i suggest either searching the forum for topics, making a forum topic, or waiting for more experienced ati gurus to come in here
[01:41] <LjL> Shadyman: uhm i do wonder why that is
[01:41] <Jambon> anyone of you used fedora and care to compare ubuntu to fedora?
[01:41] <tgnx> hi all. i am trying to install ubuntu on a computer and not having much luck with it
[01:41] <bjornkri> Ok, I've a tricky question. I was thinking about writing a script to batch rename RAW files based on EXIF information, but don't even know where to start. Is this possible?
[01:41] <mikebot> where can i search for other themes for gnome?
[01:42] <bjornkri> http://www.gnome-look.org
[01:42] <LjL> bjornkri: it definitely is
[01:42] <Eleaf> mikebot, yea www.gnome-look.org
[01:42] <tgnx> after groing through the initial install everything seems to go error free but when it tries to boot for the first time it just sits there
[01:42] <mikebot> thanks
[01:42] <thrended> brenner: must I do the 3 steps after that, and when do I do those?
[01:42] <bjornkri> Cool. I'll try and tackle it then :)
[01:42] <LjL> bjornkri: i don't know much at all about EXIF, but i helped a guy once with an EXIF-related script... which wasn't the same as what you're asking, but similar
[01:42] <saif> if i want to learn how to write scripts for nautilus, what is the thing that i need to learn, the shell command all those stuff, what are they called, what should i look for?
[01:43] <tgnx> i can see grub etc but when i choose either the kernel or the failsafe kernel it displays some info about the kernel and the initrd and then sits after the word "booting" appears
[01:43] <tgnx> and thats all it does it never gets anywhere else
[01:43] <LjL> bjornkri: first of all, you need a program that can actually read EXIF information from files and print them to standard output. the guy was using such a program, though i don't remember what it was right now
[01:43] <anto9us> bjornkri, start with sudo apt-get install exif
[01:43] <felixfoertsch> brenner, thanks for you help! I'll try :)
[01:43] <tgnx> this is on a p4 with a promis sata adapter
[01:43] <brenner> thrended: if you need wireless and wxga video then yeah, probably likely
[01:43] <LjL> bjornkri: so i guess anto9us has got it ;) (but no, it wasn't the program i had in mind... but i'm sure it'll do fine)
[01:43] <tgnx> on an intel motherboard and some other standard hardware
[01:43] <mikebot> am i using gtk 1.x or gtk 2.x, or how can i check?
[01:44] <tgnx> i'm not sure what i could try
[01:44] <bjornkri> ok brilliant, thanks
[01:44] <bobbe> gtk --version ?
[01:44] <brenner> mikebot: gkt2.  easy way to tell is most gtk1 apps look horrible. e.g. xmms
[01:44] <bobbe> lol
[01:44] <Shadyman> brenner: Agreed.
[01:45] <bobbe> hear, hear
[01:45] <mikebot> brenner: hehe okay thanks
[01:45] <brenner> heh.
[01:45] <mikebot> Once the search is complete find linux-restricted-modules-386 (or linux-restricted-modules-686 if you are running the 686 kernel) in the list and mark it for installation the same way as before.
[01:45] <thrended> brenner/bimberi: what about adding 'Option "NoAccel"'  and 'no_timer_check', when do I do that
[01:45] <mikebot> how do i know which linux one i am using? (i'm trying to get my nvidia card to work)
[01:45] <lanteau> Ok I have /etc/timezone set to America/Detrioit, but why when I run date it shows the time in UTC?
[01:46] <brenner> thrended: those can be done after the install
[01:46] <LjL> bjornkri: now, assume that this exif program outputs things in this format:     Date: xx/xx/xxxx    [newline]     Time: xx:xx        and assume you want to rename files to "xx/xx/xx-xx.xx.jpg" (a stupid example i suppose, but i don't really even remember what EXIF tags contain)
[01:46] <danis1911> can someone tell me where I can find an offtopic channel>
[01:46] <thrended> brenner: ok, and also the fixes for wireless and xvga?
[01:46] <brenner> thrended: ask back in here, and someone will help you with that if needed
[01:46] <thrended> wxga
[01:46] <IdleOne> danis1911:  #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:47] <thrended> brenner: ok, thank you!
[01:47] <thrended> bimberi: thanks
[01:47] <brenner> thrended: you can do that after the install too
[01:47] <computinchuck> how did ubuntu get mp4 support into the faac package?
[01:47] <thrended> ok, bye, going to install, thanks again
[01:47] <brenner> thrended: basically your res will be out of whack.  someone can help you with those steps too
[01:48] <tgnx> nobody has any ideas for me?
[01:48] <thrended> ok
[01:48] <LjL> bjornkri: you'd need a script that goes like     FileName="$1" ; FileDate=`exif "$FileName" | grep "^Date:" | awk ' { print $2 } '` ; FileTime=`exif "$FileName" | grep "^Time:" | awk ' { print $2 } ' | tr ":" "."` ; mv "$FileName" "${FileDate}-${FileTime}.jpg"
[01:48] <gusto5> hello folks! long time no see.
[01:48] <cached> ubuntu should span over multiple CDs just so that it is a bigger pain in the $$ to burn and install, just as Fedora Core did
[01:48] <Shadyman> cached: I agree.
[01:48] <LjL> bjornkri: if you understand everything that this script does, than you'll really have no problems writing the one you need
[01:49] <gusto5> i secon the multi-cd
[01:49] <Shadyman> cached: hmm. 200mb/cd sounds fair?
[01:49] <Shadyman> cached: or should we go back to floppies?
[01:49] <chp43> cached: what you talking about. you only need the first cd and a fast internet connection. at least that is all i have ever used.. debian is another good example. 7cd set of which you need the first.
[01:49] <cached> Shadyman: 5 1/4 inch?
[01:50] <gusto5> yea!
[01:50] <Shadyman> cached: I was thinking tape reels.
[01:50] <gusto5> lol :D
[01:50] <bjornkri> thanks LjL, I'll give it a shot
[01:50] <cached> Shadyman: Remember those good old stacks of cards?
[01:50] <mikebot> how do i know if i'm using linux-restricted-modules 386 or 686
[01:50] <bobbe> been trying to make my modem work on ubuntu. Is there any chance that any of these drivers in http://www.motorola.com/softmodem/driver.htm will work on ubuntu?
[01:50] <tgnx> i'm having trouble with my freshly installed ubuntu system
[01:50] <Shadyman> cached: Apparently someone wrote an mp3 to the stacks of cards
[01:50] <Sir_quicken> ok I am runnign the kde desktop & wine blows as an emulator, wher can I d/l & how do I install cedea
[01:50] <cached> punchcards I believe they are called in english?
[01:50] <tgnx> mainly the trouble is it wont boot
[01:51] <bjornkri> My problem right now is that the exif program I downloaded doesn't seem to be able to read EXIF data from RAW (CR2) files
[01:51] <bosco> how do i  (in termanal) add more desktops in i dont have the apply button for adding more
[01:51] <Shadyman> tgnx: That would be a trouble.
[01:51] <mjr> Sir_quicken, www.transgaming.com
[01:51] <bosco> how do i  (in termanal) add more desktops i dont have the apply button for adding more
[01:51] <Sir_quicken> free d/l?
[01:51] <LjL> bjornkri: there is only one thing conceptually missing from that script - a way to run it on an entire directory structure
[01:51] <brenner> bosco: you don't have the apply button?
[01:51] <cached> Sir_quicken: it's free if you install from CVS
[01:52] <delmar> OK so I was in here earlier talking about support for setting up a new ubuntu system with XFS... but it would seem that the installation script in fact doesn't appear to provide me with that as an option. Instead it's going to go ahead with an ext3... or am I missing something?
[01:52] <cached> Sir_quicken: I just did it today, let me find a tutorial
[01:52] <LjL> bjornkri: if you just need to run it on a single directory (no sub-directories), wrapping it into a "for $FileName in * ; do whatever ; done" will be fine
[01:52] <mjr> Sir_quicken, there is a free-of-cost version, but you'd probably say it "blows" too
[01:52] <Sir_quicken> cvs?I think I saw that didnt get a proper d/l site. I camn run rpm's now :)
[01:52] <fisne> im installing ubuntu, but when its initializing, it stops at: ACPI (supports S0 s1 S5)
[01:52] <bosco> brenner,  i just want to know how to do it mannualy in terminal
[01:52] <fisne> and never continued
[01:52] <LjL> bjornkri: otherwise, you can call it using find, like "  find /some/directory -name "*.jpg" -exec myscript '{}' \;  "
[01:52] <Sir_quicken> wine doesnt emulate dll/s just exe's
[01:52] <cached> Sir_quicken: http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:SXn3z3dQHyYJ:www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php%3Fpage%3DHOWTO%2BCedega%2BCVS+install+cedega+from+cvs&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=firefox-a
[01:53] <chp43> Sir_quicken: if you want to get technical, it doesn't emulate at all.. check out what the acronym WINE means ;)
[01:53] <FlannelKing> bosco you mean the apply button in synaptec? (adding more desktops being adding more... whats? like kubuntu?)
[01:53] <bjornkri> cool :)
[01:53] <cached> Sir_quicken: you need to add the DLLs to a predefined folder
[01:53] <LjL> bjornkri: but be careful because in the latter case the script will *not* run correctly, as it will move all the files from their original directory to the current directory. you'll need something slightly more complicated than just my "mv" command if you need to handle this case
[01:53] <mjr> Sir_quicken, you're not making much sense
[01:53] <bimberi> delmar: did you try manual partitioning, there might be other options there
[01:53] <brenner> bosco: no idea.  but i *do* know how you'd do it using the gnome gui
[01:53] <cached> chp43: it emulates, it was a backronym that also stands for WINdows Emulator
[01:53] <delmar> bimberi, perhaps. but I guess i will just stick with ext3. nice and painless.
[01:53] <Sir_quicken> how would I do that there is no c:\ in linux :P
[01:54] <chp43> cached: haha. WINE stands for WINE is not an emulator.. recursive acronym.. and no, there is no emulation taking place
[01:54] <Sir_quicken> what I am running is visual basic :p
[01:54] <cached> Sir_quicken: winecfg
[01:54] <bimberi> delmar: so it would seem (i saw the previous conversation :) )
[01:54] <bosco> FlannelKing,  i am running ubuntu and e17 but they told me to come here and i just neet to know some commands to do though terminal
[01:54] <Sir_quicken> ah didnt know that thx
[01:54] <cgd> Sir_quicken, I'm sure the documentation for WINE can help you with that.
[01:54] <chp43> cached: that is a concept that applies to hardware systems being run on software.. WINE is a compatibility layer.. technically :)
[01:54] <FlannelKing> bosco: what are you trying to do through the terminal though?
[01:54] <delmar> bimberi, at least ext3 can't be as bad as reiserfs, which has had lots of little quirks in the past for me... just little things like.. files that cant be removed... files that appear with NO permissions and root cant set any.. and crazy stuff.
[01:54] <LjL> bjornkri: but i think i'd all boil down to to adding a    cd `dirname "$FileName"`   at the start of the script
[01:54] <cached> chp43: I know that that is one of the definitions.  And if it does not emulate.. nevermind
[01:54] <brenner> FlannelKing: add more workspaces
[01:54] <brenner> it seems
[01:55] <Bean> _jason, I did not add another step, but rather appended step 4. What do you think?
[01:55] <fisne> im installing ubuntu, but when its initializing, it stops at: ACPI (supports S0 s1 S5)
[01:55] <FlannelKing> in enlightenment? (is that e17?)
[01:55] <bimberi> delmar: ewww, glad i went with ext3 then
[01:55] <Bean> _jason, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Devilspie
[01:55] <fisne> does it actually do that?
[01:55] <bosco> FlannelKing, i am trying to add more desktops to my 4 that i already have i have not started i need to know how to start then i should be good
[01:55] <brenner> i dunno why it *has* to be terminal though, when it's a gui feature
[01:55] <bosco> FlannelKing, from there
[01:55] <fisne> or is it normal?
[01:55] <cached> 
[01:55] <_jason> Bean: put it before the ./configure
[01:55] <mikebot> anyone know how i can check whether i'm using linux-restricted-modules 386 or 686?
[01:55] <mjr> Sir_quicken, using Cedega over Wine for Visual Basic would probably get you no advantage whatsoever
[01:55] <FlannelKing> bosco, which GUI? gnome? KDE? enlightenment?
[01:55] <bosco> FlannelKing, e17
[01:55] <cafuego> mikebot: 'uname -r'
[01:55] <fisne> ?
[01:55] <LjL> chp43, cached: yeah, wine is most definitely not an emulator, whatever meaning you are willing to give to the term "emulator"... it really doesn't emulate a thing
[01:56] <delmar> bimberi, i loved reiser for a while... so damn fast... id probably still use reiserfs on a disk being used for say.. squid cache.. its really nice.
[01:56] <mikebot> cafuego: thanks
[01:56] <fisne> im installing ubuntu, but when its initializing, it stops at: ACPI (supports S0 s1 S5)
[01:56] <fisne> or is it normal?
[01:56] <Sir_quicken> well its an online game requires dll files :p
[01:56] <cached> fisne: It stopped at something for about 4 hours on my install.
[01:56] <FlannelKing> bosco: is e17 enlightenment?
[01:56] <cached> fisne: I cannot remember what
[01:56] <fisne> im serious
[01:56] <bosco> FlannelKing,  yes
[01:56] <FlannelKing> nevermind, I googled.
[01:56] <bimberi> delmar: ah, kk
[01:57] <FlannelKing> bosco: wouldn't that be an enlightenment specific thing then?  I mean, I can google, but, they'd be the ones to tell you which file to change.  We could tell you where we've MOVED that file, heh, but...
[01:57] <biloyp> ubotu:libdvdcss
[01:57] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:57] <mikebot> is this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia not for breezy, cause it says the terminal is in a different spot than i have it
[01:57] <mikebot> and if so, will following these directions not install my graphics card?
[01:58] <Sir_quicken> ok how do I make a binary? "use make"
[01:58] <_jason> mikebot: yeah it's for breezy, fix it
[01:58] <mikebot> fix it?
[01:58] <cached> http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:SXn3z3dQHyYJ:www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php%3Fpage%3DHOWTO%2BCedega%2BCVS+install+cedega+from+cvs&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=firefox-a
[01:58] <FlannelKing> bosco: why are you interested in doing this via the command line? out of pure curiosity as I google.
[01:58] <_jason> mikebot: edit the wiki page and update it, or just let me know and I'll do it
[01:58] <Alexi5> hello
[01:58] <cached> the link to winecvs.sh is dead. so just google for that
[01:58] <Sir_quicken> not sure what I  open this binary with I am reading the code now
[01:58] <mjr> Sir_quicken, if you can't make wine use provided dlls, you're in way over your head installing cedega from cvs
[01:58] <danis1911> can someone direct me to a off topic channel?
[01:59] <mikebot> _jason: i don't want to update it cause i don't know what i'm doing
[01:59] <_jason> danis1911: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:59] <mikebot> _jason: you can do it
[01:59] <_jason> mikebot: k
[01:59] <mikebot> _jason: but do you know who i can correctly install my card?
[01:59] <mikebot> *how
[01:59] <Sir_quicken> I cant install cedega its a binary file I gotta "make" it 2 use it
[01:59] <mikebot> _jason: cause when i tried last night, i got a fatal error, and had to format/reinstall
[01:59] <Jambon> if i want dapper, am i better off with the daily builds or flight 4?
[01:59] <_jason> mikebot: thanks for informing us though
[01:59] <mikebot> _jason: welcome
[01:59] <Sir_quicken> I am now looking  at the open source for cedega
[02:00] <Jambon> anyone? flight 4 or daily build?
[02:00] <biloyp> I am having no luck adding the repositories deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas list_of_sections
[02:00] <biloyp> deb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas list_of_sections so I can download libdvdcss
[02:00] <bosco> FlannelKing,  I need to know because in e17 there is a graphical user interface for it but it has no apply button to add more desktops like it should and because it is the latest and unstable e17 there is now way around it
[02:01] <Bean> _jason, argh, can't find a staffer to delete the previously registered "Bean." wanted to pm you.
[02:01] <mikebot> how can i check to see whether my graphics card is 32bit or 64bit? i think it's 32
[02:01] <nbjayme> hello people. i need help on mplayer + lame. how do you have mp3 of type mpeg1 output? my mp3 player only accepts mp3 of type mpeg1. :(
[02:01] <bimberi> Jambon: i'm running flight4 and it is very good (ymmv).  Keeping up with the latest can mean that your system breaks now and then
[02:01] <Seveas> biloyp, read the wikipage again. It's obviously very hard to miss a big bold notice...
[02:01] <FlannelKing> bosco: so, why are you asking in #ubuntu? if it's regarding an enlightenment bug?  I would think of all people, they'd be able to help.  Enlightenment has crappy documentation on their site, by the way.
[02:01] <Sir_quicken> Think I installed cedega I dunno, I got a its a binary file saving it could curroupt it error though itsw waiting
[02:01] <Alexi5> what is a good laptop that is good for programming and under $1000
[02:01] <FlannelKing> bosco: first off, did you report it as a bug?
[02:02] <damian_> nbjayme: make snese please
[02:02] <_jason> Bean: on freenode you mean?
[02:02] <biloyp> Seveas" do you mean that I have to subscribe to the mailing list first?
[02:02] <damian_> nbjayme: . how do you have mp3 of type mpeg1 output? my mp3 player only accepts mp3 of type mpeg1.
[02:02] <bosco> FlannelKing,  no i did not and they told me that since i was running ubuntu that there is a file specific to ubuntu that messes with tha
[02:02] <bosco> t
[02:02] <bosco> problem
[02:02] <damian_> nbjayme: answered your own question
[02:02] <Bean> _jason, yeah, been trying for like a month.
[02:02] <Seveas> biloyp, no the one a little lower
[02:02] <iBalo> ..... arghhhh
[02:02] <brenner> Alexi5: thinkpads seem to be linux-friendly
[02:03] <_jason> Bean: try #freenode
[02:03] <nbjayme> damian_, i have a cd player that can accept mp3 files too. the mp3 that i converted from mplayer+lame cannot be played. :( but the other files of type mpeg1 can be. i used totem to check the properties of mp3 files.
[02:03] <biloyp> Seveas" I am reading this one...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:03] <_jason> mikebot: those wiki instructions worked for me, what card do you have?  maybe someone here has the same card and can share their experiences with you
[02:04] <Alexi5> ok
[02:04] <Seveas> biloyp, yes and it has a big bold notice about what to do with the list of sections
[02:04] <Seveas> quite hard to miss
[02:04] <mikebot> i have a geforce 4 mx-440
[02:04] <Sir_quicken> Ok I am lost IO downoaded cedega but cannot install it :(
[02:04] <Alexi5> what about the dell inspirons
[02:04] <FlannelKing> bosco: e17 isn't in ubuntu.  How did you install it?  tarball/whatever?
[02:04] <Sir_quicken> who do I compile this open code?
[02:04] <biloyp> Seveas: ok I will reread
[02:04] <nbjayme> mplayer+lame results to mpegII Layer 3 CBR
[02:04] <mikebot> and i am using gnome
[02:04] <mikebot> i just don't want more fatal errors, and want to run at 1280x1024
[02:05] <biloyp> Seveas: is it this one? /!\ When using packages from this archive, please subscribe to the mailing list found at [WWW]  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/mlm by sending a blank message to [MAILTO]  packages-subscribe@ubuntu-nl.org
[02:05] <Seveas> biloyp, no the one a little lower
[02:05] <nbjayme> damian_, you can play mp3 in totem then check the properties under movie menu.
[02:05] <mikebot> _jason: are you using gnome when you used that guide?
[02:06] <brenner> Sir_quicken: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[02:06] <_jason> mikebot: yep and I have a geforce4 440 go
[02:06] <biloyp> Seveas: about using a mirror?
[02:06] <mikebot> _jason: cause i did this guide last night
[02:06] <biloyp> or this? If you use one of the sources.list lines above you MUST replace list_of_sections with a list of sections you want to use, separated with a single space. The available sections can be found below.
[02:06] <Sir_quicken> ok will that give me the compiled script not the binary?
[02:06] <mikebot> _jason: and i got the fatal error: module nvidia not found
[02:06] <Seveas> yes, was it really that hard to find?
[02:07] <chp43> Alexi5: i bought one of those yesterday for under a thousand. inspiron 6000. i don't know how it is. all i know is it was cheap and the linux laptop page had sucesfull installation reports
[02:07] <damian_> nbjayne: its obviously not an mp1 then? avicodec i believe can find out whitch codec you need
[02:07] <Alexi5> kool
[02:07] <nbjayme> damian_, here is lame's output Encoding phase1.wav to phase1.wav.mp3
[02:07] <nbjayme>  Encoding as 16 kHz  32 kbps single-ch MPEG-2 Layer III (8x) qval=3
[02:07] <biloyp> well there were a few bold ones
[02:07] <biloyp> but thanks
[02:07] <brenner> Sir_quicken: it will give you instructions on how to install the cvs version
[02:07] <mikebot> _jason whatever i'll try
[02:07] <mikebot> brb
[02:08] <nbjayme> damian_, what i want is MPEG-2 Layer III
[02:08] <Sir_quicken> aight, thx for being semi-patient
[02:08] <biloyp> Seveas should I add both lines of each mirror?
[02:08] <fuzy> hi there
[02:08] <damian_> nbjayme: so your converting mp1's to m p3's
[02:08] <damian_> nbjayme: so your converting mp1's to mp3's
[02:08] <brenner> Sir_quicken: you're semi-welcome
[02:08] <Seveas> biloyp, no, you need only one mirror...
[02:08] <FlannelKing> bosco, how'd you get e17 installed?
[02:09] <damian_> nbjayne but the mp3 you create wont work in your mp3  player
[02:09] <apache_boy> hello can help me
[02:09] <fuzy> i'm having some trouble while trying to logging on kde after hibernating my laptop. anyone knows what's going on and how to fix it?
[02:09] <nbjayme> damian_, these are realaudio > mplayer > wav file > lame > mp3  (mpeg2 , i want mpeg10
[02:09] <fuzy> thanks
[02:09] <nbjayme> damian_, these are realaudio > mplayer > wav file > lame > mp3  (mpeg2 , i want mpeg1)
[02:09] <apache_boy> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
[02:09] <biloyp> Seveas: Ok but when reading the wiki..each mirro has 2 mines..do I add both lines ?
[02:09] <apache_boy> i can't find mysqld.sock
[02:09] <apache_boy> my mysqld.sock is missing
[02:09] <Seveas> biloyp, you will ned the deb line, the deb-src is optional
[02:09] <damian_> nbjayme walking away
[02:09] <mikebot> _jason: i still can't make my reso higher than 1024.. :(
[02:09] <IdleOne> fuzy:  go to #kubuntu for kde help ()
[02:10] <damian_> nbjayme sorry too confused with what your saying
[02:10] <biloyp> Seveas: ok thx ..do you recommend any particular mirror
[02:10] <_jason> mikebot: are you doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:10] <mikebot> _jason: i don't know what that is..i just followed that page i linked you to
[02:10] <_jason> mikebot: to change your resolution just do 'dpkg-reocnfigure xserver-xorg'
[02:10] <Seveas> biloyp, mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:10] <fuzy> IdleOne: right, thanks. just came here to make sure nobody is having this problem ; )
[02:10] <_jason> but spell it right...
[02:10] <mikebot> _jason: okay
[02:11] <biloyp> Seveas: ok thx ..I'll give it a try
[02:11] <Alexi5> has anyone ever installed linux on the compaq laptops
[02:11] <mikebot> _jason: bash: dpkg-reocnfigure: command not found
[02:11] <apache_boy> hello can help meee
[02:11] <Seveas> mikebot, dpkg-reconfigure
[02:11] <_jason> mikebot: heh, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:11] <Seveas> you made a typo
[02:11] <cryptik> hey wats the difference in the DVD and CD download DVD has more compiled progs i expect?
[02:11] <_jason> Seveas: nah I did, but he didn't catch it :)
[02:11] <mikebot> oh haha
[02:12] <apache_boy> Seveas
[02:12] <Seveas> Alexi5, if you count HP Compaq as compaq then yes
[02:12] <mikebot> _jason: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[02:12] <_jason> mikebot: yeah put sudo in the front
[02:12] <mikebot> okay
[02:12] <Seveas> apache_boy, ?
[02:13] <Alexi5> ok
[02:13] <apache_boy> i can't start mysql Seveas
[02:13] <apache_boy> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
[02:13] <mikebot> _jason: attempt to autodetrect: yes?
[02:13] <brenner> cryptik: good question
[02:13] <Seveas> apache_boy, too bad 
[02:13] <cryptik> lol thanx
[02:13] <apache_boy> i can't find mysqld.sock
[02:13] <FlannelKing> cryptik: yeah, DVD will include more.  I believe the DVD includes a liveCD and an installer, but that's pretty old info, don't know if that actually happened (or if its also on the CD)
[02:13] <_jason> mikebot: I don't know, seveas?
[02:13] <apache_boy> i just reinstall it and the problem is same
[02:13] <cryptik> ok cool thanx
[02:13] <Seveas> _jason, i'm off, it's 2:13 here - gotta go to bed
[02:14] <mikebot> _jason: sorry, it says "attempt to autodetect the video hardware?"
[02:14] <_jason> Seveas: night
[02:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu>  sorry? how can i know i am using xfree or xorg?
[02:14] <Sir_quicken> yeah nothing in the index tells me how 2 run this open soucce the game gave me, It refers 2 sh & I tried exactly as told & does nothing
[02:14] <Sir_quicken> I am missing somthing
[02:14] <thrended> brenner: lol, now I'm confused/nervous about the partitioning (don't want to erase anything but got an error with what I tried)
[02:14] <wastrel> don't be scared
[02:14] <_jason> mikebot: try yes... I've enver actually needed to do it :)
[02:14] <ohy4> what is bootable flag?
[02:15] <Sir_quicken> ggrrr... how do I compile this binary?
[02:15] <apache_boy> can't help me !_!
[02:15] <mikebot> _jason: hehe, it says i need to select the desired x server driver, and there is 'nv' and 'nvidia'
[02:15] <brenner> thrended: eek!  i hope you backed up!
[02:15] <_jason> mikebot: nvidia
[02:15] <FlannelKing> cryptik: the CD version is the full thing though, it's just that the DVD would include things you can install later (well, more things than the CD does), so you wouldn't have to download them.
[02:15] <Sir_quicken> there is no extention to this file, sdo its definatly an open source binary with no premis
[02:15] <biovore> Sir_quicken: what you tring to do?
[02:16] <Sir_quicken> install cedega
[02:16] <apache_boy> hello
[02:16] <mikebot> _jason: 'please enter the video card's bus identifier'
[02:16] <Sir_quicken> it gave me an extentionless file
[02:16] <biovore> Sir_quicken: is it a tar.gz or .deb ?
[02:16] <mikebot> _jason: and it alreayd has something like 'pci:1:0:0'
[02:16] <thrended> brenner: everything's fine, it didn't start partitioning, instead it said "the resize failed"
[02:16] <Sir_quicken> I sant sudo get- apt it cant run the sh command 2 install liek it says eiter
[02:16] <mikebot> _jason: i'm just going to click okay
[02:16] <damian_> where can i get the restricted codecs for noatun
[02:16] <Sir_quicken> neither no extention
[02:16] <cryptik> ok thank youi just saw the dvd torrent @ the bottom and thought hmm
[02:16] <damian_> no
[02:16] <brenner> thrended: i assume you have xp on the system and want to dualboot?
[02:17] <mp3elv> hi guys
[02:17] <mp3elv> mind if i interrupt u about something
[02:17] <Sir_quicken> the icon shows a tereminal screen it looks like it installs & disapears
[02:17] <mikebot> _jason: ugh, amt of memory to be used buy my video card
[02:17] <mp3elv> i really need help
[02:17] <thrended> brenner: yes. what I want to do is resize the 80gb hard drive to about 70gb and leave 10gb or so for ubuntu?
[02:17] <damian_> where can i get the restricted codecs for totem. EG: everything but a wave player
[02:17] <biovore> Sir_quicken: cedega isn't in apt.. you downloaded something from cedega's site?
[02:17] <brenner> thrended: yes, that's fine.  did you defrag beforehand?
[02:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !restricted
[02:17] <bimberi> ubotu tell damian_ about w32codecs
[02:17] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:17] <thrended> no
[02:17] <thrended> brenner: should I do that now
[02:17] <brenner> thrended: try that.  maybe you need to squeeze the date
[02:17] <_jason> mikebot: just use your best judgement on the questions, you can always run the command again if you think you messed up
[02:17] <brenner> *data
[02:17] <mp3elv> where do i get my root password? guys?
[02:17] <sdfzx> how can i access my files in fat32?, i 2 partitions in my disk the other one is fat32
[02:17] <wastrel> !root
[02:17] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell mp3elv about root
[02:18] <Sir_quicken> it is a shell script
[02:18] <biovore> mp3elv: you don't have one.. simple eh
[02:18] <wastrel> my finger hurts
[02:18] <Sir_quicken> ow do I run shell script & get it to install?
[02:18] <mikebot> _jason: heh okay, sorry
[02:18] <biovore> Sir_quicken: A something_or_other.sh file ?
[02:18] <brenner> thrended: check this out too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:18] <mp3elv> how do i modify menu.lst in boot/grub if i cant SU - on it
[02:18] <thrended> brenner: ok. what I did is do guided partitioning: resize current device. it asked what size I wanted the new partition to be. does new partition mean the 80gb hard drive or ubuntu's? ok
[02:18] <biovore> mp3elv: sudo -s
[02:18] <biloyp_> I got disconnected
[02:18] <Sir_quicken> yeah it told me 2 use sh I did it says verifying itegerty finished & poof its gone
[02:18] <sdfzx> how can i access my files in fat32?, i 2 partitions in my disk the other one is fat32
[02:18] <FlannelKing> mp3elv: read that link about rootsudo, ubuntu uses sudo instead of su
[02:18] <mp3elv> ok
[02:19] <biovore> Sir_quicken: well in theory its sh ./file.sh
[02:19] <bimberi> ubotu tell sdfzx about mountwindows
[02:19] <biloyp_> Seveas: I got an error stating the server is unavailable
[02:19] <sdfzx> pls help me
[02:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell sdfzx about vfat
[02:19] <biovore> Sir_quicken: after that I can't really help you..
[02:19] <brenner> thrended: i'd rather follow the "Resizing Partitions Using the Ubuntu Installer" section i gave you the link to
[02:19] <_jason> biovore: Seveas is sleeping I believe
[02:19] <brenner> thrended: but, yeah, defrag first.
[02:19] <_jason> biloyp_:  ^
[02:19] <sdfzx> thanks
[02:19] <thrended> brenner: thanks, ok
[02:19] <_jason> biloyp_: apologies
[02:19] <biovore> Sir_quicken: (If you obtained this legitly, get the .deb file of it..)
[02:19] <biloyp_> np
[02:20] <mikebot> _jason: okay, i finisehd all that, now ctrl+alt+backspace?
[02:20] <rug> Howdy all
[02:20] <_jason> mikebot: no, first cross your fingers.  Remember if something messes up just run the command again :)
[02:20] <damian_> bimberi and then totem could play dvd's using LIBDVDREAD3 correct?
[02:20] <mikebot> _jason: haha okay
[02:20] <bimberi> ubotu tell damian_ about dvd
[02:21] <mikebot> _jason: then ctrlaltbackspace, right?
[02:21] <Rug> xorg has been using a tonne of memory, have I done something wrong?
[02:21] <Sir_quicken> I got it from there main site its what it gave me :( for the cvs version...  I got failed errors lib sumthing :P
[02:21] <biloyp_> _jason" I am trying to download libdvdcss from one of the mirro sites
[02:21] <brenner> thrended: you obviously only need to start from step 6.
[02:21] <bimberi> damian_: different part of the same page :)
[02:21] <biloyp_> I always get an error saying the mirror is unavailable
[02:21] <_jason> biloyp_: which mirror?  the playboy one seems to work well
[02:21] <bimberi> biloyp_: try another mirror, there are many listed on that wiki page
[02:22] <Rug> here is my top output:   14256 root      16   0 1504m  63m 4132 R 69.6 12.6  53:20.59 Xorg
[02:22] <thrended> brenner: ok
[02:22] <biloyp_> ok I will try another
[02:22] <biovore> Sir_quicken: cvs version is missing all the close source  goodies..
[02:22] <Seyekoh> Back yet again...still no luck with sound.  Running Asus A7N8X Deluxe with Realtek onboard 6Ch audio.  I have absolutely no audio.  Help please.
[02:22] <biloyp_> I am adding these to the Synaptic Package Manager under Custom..is that correct?
[02:22] <brenner> thrended: for steps 7.6 and 7.7, just select the free space after you've finished resizing, press enter, then select automatically partition
[02:23] <brenner> thrended: that will set up a swap and root partition for you
[02:23] <thrended> brenner: ok
[02:23] <Sir_quicken> all I care is that it runs the game
[02:23] <AntMaz> i get an error when i open up a torrent with azureus , Error:missing data , anyone know what to do
[02:23] <brenner> thrended: good luck.  i'm off
[02:23] <thrended> brenner: cya, thanks
[02:23] <LjL> Rug: isn't that Dapper? if yes, then you should perhaps try asking in the dapper channel
[02:23] <jelek`> hi
[02:23] <_jason> AntMaz: find data?  make sure it's not a problem with the torrent
[02:23] <bimberi> biloyp_: that should be fine, you should edit existing line(s) though if you're just changing mirrors
[02:23] <Rug> LjL: nope, I am using breezy
[02:23] <jelek`> can i message some one here?
[02:24] <jelek`> need a quick info
[02:24] <AntMaz> no i tried other torrents
[02:24] <_jason> jelek`: just ask your question in the channel
[02:24] <LjL> Rug: uh, weird then that your X command line is so much different from mine...
[02:24] <jelek`> im newbie just starting using ubuntu for my interesting
[02:24] <biloyp_> binberi: what do you mean edit existing lines
[02:24] <LjL> Rug: root      7551  6.0  9.8  57160 50776 ?        RL   01:15   4:04 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -br :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-6xQLhr
[02:24] <_jason> AntMaz: try something you know works like the torrent for the ubuntu livecd for example
[02:24] <jelek`> i try to run make, but didnt find the the command
[02:24] <_jason> jelek`: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[02:24] <damian_> bimberi best to add this seveas packages repository to my list?
[02:25] <mp3elv> i have a dell optiplex gx150 with intel i815 integrated video when i use 1280x1024@75 i get garbled image anyone knows why?
[02:25] <LjL> Rug: but then i'm using KDM, not GDM. didn't think it made so much of a difference in terms of the way it starts X, though
[02:25] <jelek`> is that will install the make command?
[02:25] <_jason> jelek`: yep
[02:25] <jelek`> ok
[02:25] <AntMaz> well this torrent ive downloaded before about 5 or 6 times
[02:25] <jelek`> thank's, i try that
[02:25] <AntMaz> when i had windows
[02:25] <mp3elv> i have a dell optiplex gx150 with intel i815 integrated video when i use 1280x1024@75 i get garbled image anyone knows why?
[02:25] <Rug> LjL:  I get that kind of output if I run htop, but 'regular' top gives me the above
[02:25] <mp3elv> -.-???
[02:25] <Rug> my xorg version is 6..8.2
[02:26] <bimberi> damian_: if you have already added a seveas repository (or mirror) to your list and you are trying another mirror then edit the existing entry. Don't keep adding new entries for each new mirror that you try.
[02:26] <LjL> jelek`: are you sure you actually need to compile whatever it is that you're compiling, and that you can't instead get pre-built binaries from the repositories?
[02:26] <mikebot> _jason: yeah, still can't get above 1024
[02:26] <maxkelley> helawo!
[02:26] <Rug> sorry that was 6.8.2
[02:26] <_jason> mikebot: didn't it give you an option in the xserver-xorg reconfigure?
[02:26] <LjL> Rug: uh - yeah true. top gives me that too. i was using ps
[02:26] <mikebot> _jason: yeah, and i pressed enter on 1280x1024
[02:26] <FlannelKing> LjL: you pasted your ps command, top is simpler
[02:26] <LjL> Rug: in any case my X definitely appears to take much less memory than yours
[02:26] <biloyp_> I must be doing something wrong
[02:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell mikebot about fixres
[02:27] <damian_> yeah usually default mirror is fine anyway
[02:27] <_jason> mikebot: try the rest of the options on that link
[02:27] <Rug> LjL: Stop rubbing it in!   that is why I am here!    =)
[02:27] <mikebot> _jason: thanks
[02:27] <jelek`> _jason: how can i upgrade the kernel to 2.6.12-9-386?
[02:27] <LjL> Rug: i know, but i don't really know why that might be... what happens when you start a plain X with nothing running on it (not even GDM)?
[02:28] <Rug> I don't know I haven't tried
[02:28] <Rug> But I can do that.
[02:28] <LjL> jelek`: current version of the kernel is 2.6.12-10 afair
[02:28] <jelek`> ic
[02:28] <LjL> Rug: well it might give you a clue as to wether it's X's fault or actually something else's
[02:28] <_jason> jelek`: enable the online repositories and mark all upgrades in synaptic
[02:28] <jelek`> how to check for the kernel version?
[02:28] <_jason> jelek`: uname -r
[02:28] <LjL> jelek`: uname -r
[02:28] <Rug> jelek`: uname -r
[02:28] <_jason> heh
[02:29] <Rug> Jason wins
[02:29] <jelek`> actually, i got problem with my wireless, wireless card is netgear WG511T
[02:29] <delmar> how long could one expect to wait for a system to do "Writing inode tables" when creating an ext3 filesystem on a 250gig partition (single partition on a 250gig drive)... I thought that part usually went quite quick... it's a new-unused drive.
[02:29] <LjL> jelek`: anyway afaik upgrading the kernel should be a matter of "sudo apt-get update; sudo aptitude dist-upgrade", if i recall correctly it *will* prompt you if a new kernel is available
[02:29] <Alexi5> which laptop is better to get one withe the AMD Turion 64 or the one with the intel Core Duo
[02:29] <Rug> delmar: did you do it via command-line?
[02:29] <NCLife> so, is gnomebaker as good as k3b?
[02:29] <jelek`> the driver was found, but couldnt get connect to my AP
[02:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Alexi5: I'd get teh core duo, but that's just me.
[02:29] <delmar> Rug, yeah
[02:30] <biloyp_> do I need to se the autnenication settings if I am gonna download from one of the mirros at Seveas?
[02:30] <Alexi5> why would you choose the core duo
[02:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Alexi5: Usually, my purchase decisions are based on other components - video card, sound chipset, etc.
[02:30] <Rug> delmar: should be 'kinda' quick <10 mins
[02:30] <pudland> cant install openssh-server (ubuntu4), depends ...client (ubuntu4) but client(ubuntu4.1) installed. Help?
[02:30] <delmar> Rug, since starting it.. the system is running slugish too... something feels wrong.
[02:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Alexi5: Marketing. :)
[02:30] <delmar> Rug, yeah there is system load.
[02:30] <Alexi5> ok
[02:30] <delmar> dunno wtf is going on
[02:30] <Alexi5> is the core duo a 64 bit processor
[02:30] <mikebot> _jason: how do i select somethign? like add an asterisk to the box in terminal?
[02:30] <mikebot> or rather in this editing config thing?
[02:30] <Rug> delmar: that will suck all the life out of a system.
[02:31] <zx8> how do i add support for third party linux apps?
[02:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Alexi5: Not yet - I think the next release will be (or the one right after.)
[02:31] <AntMaz> _jason ,every single torrent has that error
[02:31] <delmar> Rug, why?
[02:31] <LjL> zx8: ?
[02:31] <Alexi5> ok
[02:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Alexi5: It's coming 'soon', though.
[02:31] <Rug> Formatting has ALWAYS been hard
[02:31] <Alexi5> i just can't decide whether to choose one of them
[02:31] <delmar> Rug, effectivly its formatting the disk.. and that takes lots of CPU?
[02:31] <Rug> All OS's
[02:31] <zx8> ljl: whenver i try to compile / run somthing it is missing standard libs
[02:31] <_jason> mikebot: arrow keys and space maybe?
[02:31] <LjL> zx8: well, start with "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[02:31] <Rug> Even back in the DOS days it took horsepower
[02:32] <FlannelKing> ljl: aptitude from the command line, eh?
[02:32] <biovore> lol
[02:32] <mikebot> _jason: ah, thanks
[02:32] <mikebot> brb
[02:32] <LjL> zx8: after that, all you need is being aware that there is *no* magical recipe to let you compile programs. just follow the instructions, install what they tell you to install, and if it still doesn't compile, find one which package it is missing
[02:32] <LjL> FlannelKing: uh... yeah?
[02:32] <AntMaz> Error:missing data /media/hd1b/mp3/pantera/cowboys from hell/hersey.mp3
[02:32] <biloyp_> I give up
[02:32] <biovore> zx8:What are you tring to compile?
[02:33] <_jason> AntMaz: don't know... has azureus ever worked for you?
[02:33] <zx8> no i can figure it out from here
[02:33] <Hollowman8904> how do i extract a tar.bz2?
[02:33] <Rug> AntMaz: you are officially under suspicion for listening to Pantera
[02:33] <_jason> Hollowman8904: tar xvjf file.tar.bz2
[02:33] <zx8> thanks
[02:33] <navarone> lol@rug
[02:33] <AntMaz> why they are awsome
[02:33] <Rug> yeah 20 years ago!
[02:33] <pudland> sepultura iz better
[02:33] <mikebot> _jason: uh, thank you so much--SOO much better
[02:33] <bimberi> Hollowman8904: or right-click -> Extract in nautilus
[02:33] <biloyp_> none of the mirrors at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages work for me
[02:34] <pudland> sepultura sepultura sepultura sepultura
[02:34] <Installer36> Setting Sennsors Limits --Failed ....Any Help tried Google no help there
[02:34] <AntMaz> this is the first time i tried it , it worked fine when i had xp and 2000 installed about 2 weeks ago then i switched over to linux
[02:34] <jroes> hey, I changed kernels to k7, and my nvidia drivers don't work (no surprise, since it's a kernel module), does anyone know if there is anything else I need to do besides apt-get install the linux-restricted-modules for my k7 kernel?
[02:34] <LjL> !nvidia
[02:34] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:34] <Hollowman8904> tar xvfj <file> just llisted the file names
[02:34] <Hollowman8904> in the arcive
[02:34] <AntMaz> yea and what do you listen to RUg
[02:34] <maxkelley> hmm
[02:35] <pudland> HELP.... cant install openssh-server (ubuntu4), depends ...client (ubuntu4) but client(ubuntu4.1) installed.
[02:35] <Rug> har, you don't want to know..
[02:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jroes: That should do it.
[02:35] <jroes> thanks
[02:35] <Rug> Duran Duran:  Wild Boys
[02:35] <AntMaz> sure i would
[02:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jroes: If not, just reinstalling the nvidia-glx package will.  I doubt it will come to that, though.
[02:35] <ilikerug> install me!
[02:36] <mp3elv> i wanna kill myself how do i eject a CD from the damn the cd-rom?
[02:36] <biloyp_> Can I get some help with this SeveasPackage download problem
[02:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jroes: (It's been long enough since I did that that it's a bit fuzzy. O_o)
[02:36] <LjL> pudland: i suppose you've tried "sudo apt-get update"? because the ssh-server that's in the repositories for me is version ubuntu4.1
[02:36] <Rug> ilikerug: I like your Nick!
[02:36] <pudland> LjL, yup tried
[02:36] <AntMaz> no one else had this problem when they first installed azureus
[02:36] <ilikerug> Rug: it's trez cool!
[02:36] <delmar> Rug, just spoke to someone else and aparantly... making ext3 file system is really quick... and shouldnt have CPU load like this.. so something is screwed.
[02:36] <Hollowman8904> how do i extract a tar.bz2 file?
[02:36] <elkbuntu> mp3elv, right click on the cd icon on your desktop and select 'unmount'
[02:36] <mp3elv> k
[02:36] <pudland> LjL, can you paste your repo?
[02:36] <El-Cid> AntMaz~ whats your problem with azureus ?
[02:37] <LjL> pudland: "my repo" is the standard Breezy repos
[02:37] <Rug> delmar: ok mark this date on your calendar.   I guess I was wrong
[02:37] <AntMaz> Error:missing data /media/hd1b/mp3/pantera/cowboys from hell/hersey.mp3
[02:37] <delmar> Rug lol :P
[02:37] <AntMaz> thats an example
[02:37] <LjL> pudland: i can paste my sources.list if you like, but i'm not sure that will gain you anything
[02:37] <pudland> LjL, well what the #$#*#
[02:37] <Installer36> Any help on setting senor limits Failed during bootup
[02:37] <pudland> LjL, try please
[02:37] <delmar> Rug, thanks for your comments. im gonna hunt down the problem. could always be a shagged disk.
[02:37] <LjL> pudland: what does "apt-cache policy openssh-server" tell you?
[02:37] <lucis> Hi, is there any way to turn off the animations in Gnome when minimizing a window?
[02:37] <pudland> LjL, brb
[02:38] <Rug> delmar: it usually takes me about 10 minutes give or take to format ~300Gb disks
[02:38] <delmar> ok what is Gamin? Gamin is what has suddenly decided to hog CPU....
[02:38] <wastrel> Hollowman8904:  tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2
[02:38] <Rug> Now playing:
[02:38] <Rug> American Music
[02:38] <Rug> Violent Feems
[02:39] <maxkelley> delmar: do a man gamin
[02:39] <AntMaz> El-Cid any ideas
[02:39] <Rug> Femmes rather
[02:39] <Malachi> What's a good MSPublisher alternative?
[02:39] <delmar> holey crap.
[02:39] <navarone> AntMaz, shouldn't the media be at hdb1 and not hd1b?
[02:39] <delmar> "Gamin is a file and directory monitoring system defined to be
[02:39] <delmar> a subset of the FAM (File Alteration Monitor) system.
[02:39] <delmar> "
[02:39] <El-Cid> AntMaz~ check the azureus wiki ?
[02:39] <maxkelley> delmar: there's your answer.
[02:39] <delmar> ubuntu has WinXP type bloat. im disgusted.
[02:39] <maxkelley> hehe..
[02:39] <delmar> what the hell do I need a "file alteration monitor" hogging my cpu for.
[02:39] <maxkelley> I don't have gamin running...
[02:40] <maxkelley> that's not a default ubuntu thing, bucko.
[02:40] <AntMaz> yea it is
[02:40] <LjL> pudland: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9571
[02:40] <delmar> thats the first thing im uninstalling after the online update is done.
[02:40] <pudland> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9570
[02:40] <pradeep> that;s how you give winxp the competition...bloat more !
[02:40] <AntMaz> i just typed it wrong i didnt see nothing
[02:40] <pudland> LjL, i've got repo issues!!!
[02:40] <Rug> delmar: yeah I used to get that too...    kill the process and it should be fine.  Sometimes it gets stuck
[02:40] <Malachi> What's a good MSPublisher alternative?
[02:40] <delmar> maxkelley, this was a fresh ubuntu install.... and I have Gamin... so it must be default.
[02:40] <maxkelley> delmar: strange.. what ver?
[02:40] <pudland> LjL, i'll compare and try again.  thanks
[02:40] <docta_v> Malachi: vi
[02:41] <LjL> pudland: oh... i think it looks like they're updating your mirrors right now
[02:41] <Malachi> docta_v: Not funny.
[02:41] <hackel> Malachi:  LaTeX?  OpenOffice.org?
[02:41] <maxkelley> Malachi: isn't publisher like a works thing?
[02:41] <delmar> maxkelley, 5.04 which is all i had handy.
[02:41] <navarone> AntMaz, try to reproduce error and copy and paste it too pastebin
[02:41] <navarone> !pastebin
[02:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:41] <Malachi> Like a brochure maker thing.
[02:41] <maxkelley> delmar: ah. well, that might be your problem.
[02:41] <D> !wireless
[02:41] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:41] <D> mian1ak, welcome to #ubuntu on World-IRC. If we can be of any assistance, please say so, or send a private message to an op.
[02:41] <AntMaz> pastebin?
[02:41] <Malachi> For creating brochures calendars, etc.
[02:41] <D> etea
[02:41] <D> ldafo
[02:41] <D> fhck
[02:41] <D> sry
[02:41] <dradul> Malachi, anything is better than MSPublisher. Scribe is much, much better. Located in Universe.
[02:41] <maxkelley> 5.10 is good.
[02:41] <docta_v> Malachi: what hackel said
[02:41] <pudland> LjL, do the mirrors look legit though???
[02:41] <maxkelley> hmmm
[02:42] <maxkelley> that D guy was weird.
[02:42] <Malachi> dradul: I've gotten scribus.
[02:42] <Malachi> But I'm not to sure how to use it.
[02:42] <Malachi> Scribe, and Latex, you say?
[02:42] <LjL> pudland: the ones i can see from that error look alright to me
[02:42] <delmar> grrr. i kill this gamin thing and it restarts instantly. piece of crap
[02:42] <AntMaz> Error: Data Missing /media/hdb1/Mp3/Pantera/Alive and Hostile EP (Live)/Alive and Hostile.m3u not found.
[02:42] <maxkelley> hehe
[02:43] <hackel> delmar:  Why wouldn't you want it to do that?
[02:43] <AntMaz> Error: Data Missing /media/hdb1/Mp3/Pantera - Discography/Cowboys From Hell/02-Primal Concrete Sledge.mp3 not found.
[02:43] <dradul> Malachi, it is a page layout program similar in philosophy to Quark. You enter ttext in other thingamajick and then do the layout with SCribus.
[02:43] <pudland> LjL, i just FreeNX'd my other breezy box and that has the right version server installed.
[02:43] <maxkelley> AntMaz: pplease stop.
[02:43] <Malachi> Mkay. Thanks.
[02:43] <budman> My box just keeps crashing
[02:43] <budman> randomly :-(
[02:43] <AntMaz> i just put my errors navarone asked me to
[02:43] <dradul> Malachi, the latest SCribus, 1.2.3 can read OpenOffice.org 2 (ODT) Writer files.
[02:43] <delmar> hackel?
[02:43] <navarone> AntMaz, I said paste to pastebin
[02:44] <AntMaz> i dont know what pastebin is
[02:44] <navarone> !pastebin
[02:44] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:44] <navarone> I did that as well...<s>
[02:44] <pudland> antmazhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:44] <LjL> AntMaz: read the channel topic to know what it is (that's something you should always do when you join a channel ;)
[02:44] <navarone> AntMaz, are you sure that the music files are  on the drive?
[02:45] <dradul> Malachi, infact Dapper has 1.2.4 (hmm... I'm out of the loop so it seems...)
[02:45] <Installer36> How about some help with Setting Sensors limits Failed
[02:45] <LjL> Installer36: you probably haven't configured lm-sensors
[02:45] <biloyp_> ok how do I install a .deb package then.I downloaded the one I need
[02:45] <AntMaz> they arent on my drive no , i have nothing to seed but ive never had this problem before
[02:45] <LjL> biloyp_: sudo dpkg -i filename
[02:46] <Installer36> is that sudo sensors
[02:46] <LjL> Installer36: sudo sensors-detect
[02:46] <Installer36> Thankyou
[02:47] <lucis> Is there a way to increase the screen resolution above what is displayed in the screen resolution utility in gnome?
[02:47] <LjL> Installer36: sudo sensor (or, without the sudo) will just show you the current sensor readings. you can run it to get an idea if your sensors are actually misconfigured
[02:47] <Hollowman8904> is the command for copy, cp?
[02:47] <elkbuntu> yes
[02:47] <LjL> lucis: yeah, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:47] <LjL> !tell Hollowman8904 about cli
[02:47] <delmar> lol. if i try to remove gamin.. its going to uninstall 276mb of ubuntu... man so far im not impressed at all.
[02:48] <LjL> delmar: are you trying that with apt-get?
[02:48] <WoC`> !find gpm
[02:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'gpm' (7 shown): gpm ;; libgpmg1 ;; libgpmg1-dev ;; sylpheed-claws-gtk2-pgpmime ;; sylpheed-claws-gtk2-pgpmime ;; sylpheed-claws-pgpmime ;; sylpheed-claws-pgpmime.
[02:48] <Rug> delmar: don't uininstall it just kill the process
[02:48] <lucis> LjL, how do I know which driver to choose?
[02:48] <delmar> LjL, sure
[02:48] <AntMaz> why would it look for data that isnt there
[02:48] <delmar> Rug, i did.. the bloody thing restarts instantly
[02:48] <wastrel> ubotu tell Hollowman8904 about cli
[02:48] <Jewishbob> has anyone installed absolutepoker on linux
[02:48] <Rug> ahh sorry
[02:49] <LjL> lucis: leave all the defaults selected -- if they worked until now, they'll keep working. just change the ones relative to resolution
[02:49] <delmar> ill stick at it until its 100% updated online.
[02:49] <Rug> I just had to kill it once, and it never misbehaved since
[02:49] <delmar> then ill see whats still broken.. if anything
[02:49] <lucis> LjL, ok
[02:49] <AntMaz> Kill All
[02:49] <TdC_VgA> what repository can I use to add nano?
[02:49] <WoC`> weird, apt-get install gpm fails for me, any ideas?
[02:50] <biloyp_> thx LjL
[02:50] <AntMaz> navarone , acctully i downloaded radmin thinking it woul work with wine (doesnt) but that worked fine
[02:50] <wastrel> WoC`:  are you using sudo?
[02:50] <Jewishbob> has anyone installed absolutepoker on linux
[02:50] <docta_v> no but pokerstars works
[02:50] <Bean> This is so weird, whenever I open firefox it opens the U of Arizona homepage even though I have homepage set to use blank.
[02:50] <LjL> delmar: try "apt-cache rdepends gamin", you'll see it's depended upon by a few things that you definitely don't want to remove
[02:50] <AntMaz> downloaded and is seeding
[02:50] <WoC`> actualy, logged in on console as root
[02:50] <LjL> delmar: so, don't remove it
[02:50] <docta_v> Bean: are you using sessionsaver?
[02:50] <AntMaz> ok maybe nbot its not seeding now
[02:50] <LjL> WoC`: do you have universe enabled?
[02:50] <Bean> docta_v, yes, but it happens even when not opening a session
[02:51] <docta_v> you can clear your firefox profile
[02:51] <docta_v> if you want to try that
[02:51] <Seyekoh> Back yet again...still no luck with sound.  Running Asus A7N8X Deluxe with Realtek onboard 6Ch audio.  I have absolutely no audio.  Help please.
[02:51] <WoC`> is it safe to use?
[02:51] <tagabasak> hi guys,anyone know what these means? Cannot launch entry
[02:51] <tagabasak> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[02:51] <Bean> docta_v, and if I do open a session that doesn't include that page in creates a new tab with it (appears as first tab)
[02:51] <LjL> WoC`: what?
[02:51] <axisys> anyone know why my mplayer failing to play dvi file.. here is how it is failing. http://pastebin.com/577740
[02:51] <WoC`> I prolly need to uncomment that, ty
[02:51] <_jason> tagabasak: what did you do to cause that?
[02:52] <dradul> Bean, open the prefered applications applet and make sure to change "firefox %u" to "firefos %s"
[02:52] <tagabasak> _jason, i installed antivir on my ubuntu i got got that msg.
[02:52] <LjL> WoC`: universe? it's less safe than main, it gets less timely (or no) security updates and the packages are much less audited
[02:52] <_jason> axisys: .dvi? isn't that like .pdf?
[02:52] <dradul> "firefox %s"
[02:52] <_jason> tagabasak: what is antivir?
[02:52] <tagabasak> _jason,AntiVir for linux
[02:52] <LjL> WoC`: however, by not enabling universe you take away some 13000 or so packages (main has about 4000). choice is yours
[02:53] <LjL> WoC`: if you need gpm you definitely do need universe in any case
[02:53] <wastrel> WoC`:  gpm does appear to be in the universe repo
[02:53] <_jason> axisys: try using evince, I think it opens .dvi
[02:53] <axisys> _jason: hmm.. i wanted to stick w/ mplayer :P
[02:53] <delmar> LjL, yeah i see that .. which is why im a little concerned that it has a bug... this is a brand new box for me.. nothing too hefty but a wicked upgrade from the crap I had before.. and I'm all hyped up about starting on this new box with 100% pure linux and running windows if any.. under vmware... so far my nice new box is performing like a $2 whore with a hangover. so im a little concerned.
[02:54] <_jason> axisys: I don't think mplayer opens .dvi's but feel free to ask in #mplayer
[02:54] <Bean> dradul, that didn't work, it was just set to "Firefox" and I set it to custom and put "firefox %s"
[02:54] <WoC`> ty LjL & wastrel, just realized that ;] 
[02:54] <axisys> _jason: this is the error message i get http://pastebin.com/577747 with evince
[02:55] <LjL> delmar: well, a process taking 100% cpu will definitely make it dog slow ;) so, try killing that process as first thing, and see if it gets better. then you'll have to find out why the process is hanging in the first place
[02:55] <Bean> dradul, weird, it's not saving my setting in preferred applications
[02:55] <delmar> i dont get it... i never have such massive CPU load during a simple apt-get upgrade on my other debian sarge boxes.
[02:55] <Bean> dradul, when i open it again it's set back to the "Firefox" option
[02:55] <WoC`> delmar, running seti in the background or something?
[02:56] <Bean> dradul, when i run "firefox" from terminal it works fine
[02:56] <delmar> WoC, is that standard from a fresh install of ubuntu? if not.. No
[02:56] <LjL> delmar: uh... if gamin is misbehaving (i.e. hanging), it will definitely take up all of your CPU, like any program that's hanging in a tight loop ;)
[02:56] <delmar> this is a fresh install 30mins or so ago
[02:56] <LjL> delmar: you need to find out *why* it's doing that, though
[02:56] <WoC`> delmar, just checking, then you're not running it ;] 
[02:56] <salah> hi
[02:57] <uber_spaced> my damn dog just got her coller stuck in my cdrom drive and ripped the face plate off. son of a bitch.
[02:57] <dradul> Bean, perhaps you have a corrupt configuration "registry". The best idea I can come up with is to logout, jump into a console, kill gdm and all related processes, particualry gconfd, delete the directory ".gconf" (you'd lose your mail configration if using evolution, restart gdm and login again.
[02:57] <delmar> LjL, if the software upgrade doesn't fix this problem, then for whatever reason, ubuntu is not compatable with my system. ill try re-install from the latest .iso or whatever.. or go back to debian testing.
[02:57] <salah> How can setup Eclips software for Java prg.
[02:57] <Rug> Cats are better, they hang from the cdrom trays
[02:57] <bimberi> !eclipse
[02:57] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[02:57] <Bean> dradul, actually it was the starter i was using. Was set to "firefox %u." Thanks for help.
[02:57] <WoC`> uber_spaced, thanks for the input, now i kno why i dont have a dog ;] 
[02:57] <ohy4> x, fluxbox, kde, or gnome?
[02:57] <delmar> LjL, yeah.. be nice to know why .. and fix it...
[02:57] <_jason> axisys: looks like you need some fonts maybe?
[02:58] <LjL> delmar: hm, you haven't run a dist-upgrade yet? i would definitely advice doing that before reaching any conclusions
[02:58] <Rug> np: Meat Loaf - I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) (5:33 / 0:00)
[02:58] <lucis> Is there an image viewer similar to that of winXP's?
[02:59] <maxkelley> M0ose: hey, rochesterian
[02:59] <delmar> LjL, I chose to try ubuntu so I could get into it, and put it on my wifes box also.. so she can come to me with any issues.. I'm also lookin forward to something a little more simple with less headaches... I've had my head up the backside of linux for ages.. and there is always something to fight wth and get going that aparantly.. works fine on someone elses box and install.. no problems... its always the way isnt it :P
[02:59] <mjr> lucis, good luck in finding someone who knows what XP's viewer is like ;)
[02:59] <delmar> LjL, dist-upgrade is next for sure. always do that too.
[02:59] <Rug> AntMaz: what is giving you the error message for your MP3's?
[02:59] <delmar> LjL, so im a ways off yet :P
[02:59] <lucis> mjr, haha, well, the gnome viewer is okay, but i need something that will let me scroll through photos.
 hello i have a problem with squirrelmail can i help you?
[02:59] <delmar> it might all come right after the big upgrades.
[02:59] <ohy4> ^^ LOL
[02:59] <M0ose> Rochesterian
[03:00] <LjL> delmar: guess so, yeah... but i must say that in my case ubuntu installed much easier than debian (by "installed" i don't just mean strictly the installation)
[03:00] <KakiPukul> lucis: : gqview :)
[03:00] <lucis> kaki, ok, thnx
[03:00] <delmar> LjL, this install was VERY painless.
[03:00] <_jason> axisys: tetex-base seems to provide `lcircle10' for me, don't know if that's all evince needs
[03:00] <LjL> delmar: but i don't mean just that, it also recognized most of my devices and all quite painlessy
[03:01] <LjL> delmar: with debian, the first thing i must fight against is usually wrong resolution/refresh rate when all goes well, and no X server at all when all goes not well
[03:01] <delmar> LjL, ill have a few questions later about what is normal to do.. when setting other stuff up.. but other than that if it comes right i should be set.
[03:01] <axisys> _jason: i am installing xdvi
[03:01] <axisys> _jason: lets see if that helps
[03:02] <LjL> delmar: well keep in mind that most of the procedures for doing things in ubuntu are just about the same as they are in debian
[03:02] <tgnx> i just installed ubuntu on a machine but it doesnt boot
[03:02] <tgnx> it just sits there after trying to boot the kernel
[03:02] <maxkelley> tgnx: I suggest you go to the ubuntu tech support chan.
[03:02] <axisys> _jason: xdvi is installing tetex-base as a dependcy/requireent
[03:02] <ssstormy> does anyone know why the msttcorefonts package keeps timing out when it trys to download the seperate core packages?
[03:02] <maxkelley> oh wait, that's here, isn't it?
[03:02] <_jason> axisys: :)
[03:02] <delmar> LjL, yeah same here... it appears to have spotted all my hardware but im just checking that all out now while I wait for the update to finish.. seems rather slow adding the packages tho... /shrug... something could certainly be faster... perhaps the SATA drive is not running as fast as it should .. or something... any ubuntu benching proggies?
[03:02] <LjL> maxkelley: ...hm?
[03:02] <_jason> axisys: now you should learn latex as well
[03:02] <tgnx> maxkelley, i guess it is
[03:03] <maxkelley> well, welcome then!
[03:03] <LjL> tgnx: bog-standard reply: try passing "acpi=off" to your kernel
[03:03] <maxkelley> so, does it give any error messages?
[03:03] <AntMaz> Azureus and i just did the updates and it still doesnt work
[03:03] <wastrel> latex eh
[03:03] <tgnx> LjL i will try that
[03:03] <sdfzx> how can i install ymesenger? and what should i choose? redhat or debian?
[03:03] <Jeffrae> hi
[03:03] <KakiPukul> choose the debian package, sdfzx
[03:04] <LjL> delmar: well i would run "hdparm -Tt /dev/hda" (or whatever your HD is called) to see what speed is doing, and "hmparm /dev/hda" to see if DMA etc is enabled
[03:04] <FlannelKing> Is there no way to get lynx to accept the same SSL certificate instead of asking each page?
[03:04] <LjL> delmar: i'm not sure SATA is extremely well supported yet at any rate
[03:04] <Jeffrae> Does it make sence that when I plugged my USB drive in it didn't show up as one?  It does show up as sda
[03:04] <sdfzx> pls help
[03:04] <Jeffrae> is this because it is not formatted?
[03:04] <Rug> Jeffrae: Yupp, it is supposed to do that
[03:04] <LjL> Jeffrae: that's what USB drives are supposed to show up as
[03:04] <tgnx> LjL, that gives me the same exact result
[03:04] <pudland> LjL, used official sources.list, prob fixed.
[03:04] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:04] <Jeffrae> Well my old USB drive shows up on the desktop
[03:05] <FlannelKing> sdfzx: you porbably can't install the official yahoo messenger, there are plenty of clients that will work though.
[03:05] <axisys> _jason: xdvi worked.. i can see dvi formatted file now.
[03:05] <Jeffrae> my new one does not
[03:05] <Rug> np: Stephen Lynch - She Gotta Smile (0:13 / 0:00)
[03:05] <tgnx> maxkelley, there are no error messages.. its just some grub messages follwed by "booting" and then a blinking cursor
[03:05] <Jeffrae> is it because it is not formatted?
[03:05] <student> can anyone help me how to install epson lx-300 using edubuntu?
[03:05] <Rug> Jeffrae: prolly
[03:05] <AntMaz> Rug you got any ideas
[03:05] <Rug> I have lots....
[03:05] <tgnx> any other ideas?
[03:05] <student> i mean my OS is edubuntu. i dont know how to do it. coz m new here
[03:05] <KakiPukul> student: : what is the connector type of that printer? USB?
[03:05] <_jason> axisys: see if evince works now too
[03:06] <Rug> comets!   stars!
[03:06] <Seyekoh> still no luck with sound.  Running Asus A7N8X Deluxe with Realtek onboard 6Ch audio.  I have absolutely no audio.  Help please.
[03:06] <AntMaz> with my error
[03:06] <student> parallel port
[03:06] <Rug> what is giving you the error?
[03:06] <overrider> sstormy, i have the exact same problem
[03:06] <student> its not USB
[03:06] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, try running alsaconf
[03:06] <kratos> Ok
[03:06] <LjL> FlannelKing: there is a yahoo messenger for linux
[03:06] <KakiPukul> student: : are you in GNOME now?
[03:06] <LjL> sdfzx: see above
[03:06] <kratos> I tried getting fluxbox installed here.
[03:06] <AntMaz> Azureus
[03:06] <Jeffrae> if I want to use the drive on windows machines and linux machines am I better off formatting it with windows XP?
[03:06] <asimismo> Hi all. Can /boot work on RAID1?
[03:06] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: is that from the console?
[03:06] <ssstormy> has anyone ever used kino?  it crashes for me all the time.  It can't handle seemingly any video format at all
[03:06] <kratos> But, it got errors in make.
[03:06] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, yeah
[03:06] <Jeffrae> or can I format it on my ubuntu box?
[03:06] <LjL> Jeffrae: just format it as FAT32
[03:06] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:06] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: thanks, will try that now
[03:07] <Jeffrae> that is what I thought
[03:07] <axisys> _jason: yeap..evince works too
[03:07] <overrider> ssstormy, the msttcor4efonts cant be downloaded
[03:07] <kratos> What's the command to restart X?
[03:07] <LjL> Jeffrae: doesn't really matter where you format it, as long as it's not NTFS or ext3
[03:07] <student> GNOME? m sorry coz m not programmer. m just a user here. :)
[03:07] <LjL> Jeffrae: (i mean, as long as it's FAT32)
[03:07] <axisys> _jason: kool .. u were right... thanks
[03:07] <delmar> LjL, yeah hdparm rings a bell. been a while since i played with that. ill mess with that.
[03:07] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: whereis and locate alsaconf return nothing... =/
[03:07] <Rug> AntMaz: are you seeding or downloading a file?
[03:07] <AntMaz> and i did the updates thinking that would resoolve it but that didnt work ., i downloaded radmin thiinking it would work under wine but it didnt but but that downloaded fine
[03:07] <_jason> axisys: np
[03:07] <Jeffrae> LjL; thanks
[03:07] <KakiPukul> wht the hell about being programmer has anything to do with GNOME?
[03:07] <asimismo> Anyone here doing LVM on RAID1 with Breezy?
[03:07] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, how about do it as root user
[03:07] <AntMaz> no that radmin stoped seeding
[03:08] <Kratos> !xserver
[03:08] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: same
[03:08] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kratos
[03:08] <Rug> AntMaz: is it possible that the file is suppoesed to be an audio alert for a system event?
[03:08] <Kratos> >>
[03:08] <Kratos> <<
[03:08] <Kratos> Help?!
[03:08] <Rug> np: Track 23 (0:21 / 0:00)
[03:08] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, then you need the right package with the tool.  one of the alsa packages, like "utils" or something like that
[03:08] <LjL> delmar: be careful, 'cause as you can read in the man pages, some of it parameters can be dangerous. but the "-Tt" option to just check what speeds your HD shouldn't be able to do any harm
[03:08] <AntMaz> what do you mean
[03:08] <jiisu> hello all
[03:08] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: ok, will search synaptic for alsa
[03:08] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, or you can do "sudo apt-get install dlocate" and then "dlocate alsaconf:
[03:08] <jiisu> i was in yesterday
[03:08] <Kratos> What is the command used to restart X?
[03:08] <PuppiesOnAcid> For running linux and programming, what is the recommended Tablet PC to get?
[03:08] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, err cut that last ";" from that last line
[03:09] <jiisu> i need some help installing xgl
[03:09] <ssstormy> Kratos, jsut hit ctl+alt+backspace
[03:09] <student> ok what GNOME actually
[03:09] <Kratos> ssstormy, I tried.
[03:09] <LjL> Kratos: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, but do that from a terminal
[03:09] <ssstormy> Kratos, then go to terminal and say killall gdm
[03:09] <Kratos> LjL, thanks
[03:09] <LjL> jiisu: read the topic please ;)
[03:09] <xerophyte> say i have two hard-drive and if i want to install the grub on the second drive do i  have to use root(hd1,0) just wondering
[03:09] <Rug> AntMaz: the file is an MP3 right?  is it possible that the file is being run on an event?  (ie. when downloading has finished play file 123)
[03:09] <uber_spaced> how do I join an IRC channel in xchat that has a "key"?
[03:09] <jiisu> LjL wekk
[03:09] <jiisu> well*
[03:09] <uber_spaced> (if I know what the key is)
[03:09] <LjL> jiisu: specifically, if you join #ubuntu+1, you'll see the topic mentions another #ubuntu-xgl client
[03:09] <Rug> uber_spaced: you can't without the key
[03:10] <LjL> jiisu: s/client/channel/
[03:10] <uber_spaced> Rug, I know what the key is,
[03:10] <Rug> uber_spaced: nevermind
[03:10] <AntMaz> well it doesnt even start downloading
[03:10] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: what is dlocate?  another search util?
[03:10] <Rug> uber_spaced: what IRC client?
[03:10] <uber_spaced> xchat
[03:10] <Jeffrae> can't format in disk management I take it..
[03:10] <jorock> can anyone tell me a good fast mirror for backports and breezy?
[03:10] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, yea it can find any file, even if it's in packages you haven't isntalled
[03:10] <Jeffrae> I guess I will have to read up on the command line tools
[03:10] <AntMaz> hey they have a pontiac torrent
[03:10] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, so long as that file is avalible in your apt-get sources list
[03:10] <Rug> doesn't it prompt you to enter the key? or try /join #channel /k key-here
[03:10] <LjL> Jeffrae: "man mkfs.vfat"
[03:11] <ssstormy> well not in t elist itself
[03:11] <ssstormy> but from the addresses in the sources list
[03:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there, how can i check if the ati accelerated driver that i just installed are correctly working?
[03:11] <ssstormy> Tallia1Kubuntu, play a game?
[03:11] <jiisu> LjL i need to uninstall my mesa driver to install the ati driver
[03:11] <uber_spaced> Rug, never mind, found out.
[03:11] <wastrel> Tallia1Kubuntu:  glxinfo | grep direct
[03:11] <wastrel> Tallia1Kubuntu:  or fglrxinfo
[03:11] <Klick_> glxinfo
[03:12] <Rug> bye all.   G'night
[03:12] <Hollowman8904> why do i get access denied when trying to run an .exe in my home folder
[03:12] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: dlocate alsaconf
[03:12] <Seyekoh> /usr/bin/locate.notslocate: /var/lib/dlocate/dlocatedb: No such file or directory
[03:12] <AntMaz> Rug how do i check the event
[03:12] <LjL> Hollowman8904: "an .exe"?
[03:12] <jiisu> how can you check with driver you're running?
[03:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i get this answers... this means they are enabled? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/MLKKQ480.html
[03:12] <Hollowman8904> LjL, yea its folding :\
[03:12] <LjL> Hollowman8904: linux executables don't normally have an ".exe" extension
[03:12] <Rug> Azereus has it's own setting (and so does Gnome)   look for properties
[03:12] <Hollowman8904> folding@home does
[03:12] <Eleaf> Seveas, ?  You there?
[03:12] <KakiPukul> it doesn't have extension at all
[03:13] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, O.o jeez I have no idea bout that one
[03:13] <Jeffrae> LjL, thanks
[03:13] <LjL> Hollowman8904: then "chmod +x filename"
[03:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wastrel: ?
[03:13] <Rug> Hollowman8904: that is a Windows file
[03:13] <salah> actually I have download a tar.gz file from online (Eclpse)
[03:13] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: ok, thanks for your time
[03:13] <Hollowman8904> rug: its linux :)
[03:13] <student> hello?
[03:13] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, I'll go find the package name for you
[03:13] <salah> on my dextop .How can I install it?
[03:13] <Hollowman8904> LjL, thanks.. chmod worked
[03:13] <coz> how could I get an ubuntu box that defaults to ipv6 without recognizing network to run ipv4
[03:13] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: it said i have alsa-utils installed
[03:13] <AntMaz> where would it be in azureus , under ioptions
[03:13] <Rug> Hollowman8904: then chmod it to +x and give'er a rip
[03:13] <Klick_> Anyone here able to get mplayer with alsa working in ubuntu. mplayer keeps saying no support for alsa when i have alsa installed via synaptic
[03:13] <Rug> maybe
[03:13] <LjL> salah: you open it and read the instructions ;) there's not a standard answer
[03:13] <coz> I hae mplyer working
[03:14] <student> help me up! intallation of printer  in my computer
[03:14] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, wow... this is really surreal... I coulda sworn I had it installed too
[03:14] <Rug> student: no, you didn't ask nice
[03:14] <student> viturs@
[03:14] <wastrel> Tallia1Kubuntu:  your dri is working
[03:14] <coz> Klick_ what is the problem
[03:14] <Rug> go sit in the corner
[03:14] <Hollowman8904> How do I close a virtual terminal?
[03:14] <student> gago bos!
[03:14] <LjL> Hollowman8904: you mean a text-mode console?
[03:14] <student> ya[p
[03:14] <wastrel> Hollowman8904:  exit
[03:14] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: no worries, i thought i heard people talking about it yesterday
[03:14] <AntMaz> ha sit in the corner and say n00b a million times
[03:14] <salah> Normally how can I setup tar file?
[03:14] <Hollowman8904> LjL, yea when you hit ctrl-alt-F1
[03:14] <wastrel> ubotu tell Hollowman8904 about cli
[03:15] <bimberi> coz: you could try...
[03:15] <Hollowman8904> i can't type anything
[03:15] <bimberi> !ipv6disable
[03:15] <ubotu> methinks ipv6disable is http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2005-May/013585.html
[03:15] <coz> bimberi
[03:15] <Hollowman8904> so im pretty much looking for a button combo to close it
[03:15] <coz> I did that no go
[03:15] <suryam> !ubotu
[03:15] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[03:15] <LjL> salah: your best bet is "gunzip filename.gz ; tar -x -f filename.tar ; ./configure ; make ; sudo checkinstall" , if you have everything needed installed (chiefly, build-essential and checkinstall)
[03:15] <Klick_> coz,  well first off do you have mplayer + alsa from synaptic or did you build yourself
[03:15] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, I'm really sorry... well you can try a few other things- see if root can do it (your user has to be part of the audio group to write to the audio device, and you have to restart the login session if you change that when the user is already logged in)
[03:15] <LjL> salah: but in 99% of the cases you will actually have to read the instructions, which usually come as an INSTALL and/or README file in the tarball
[03:15] <bimberi> coz: hmkk - that's my best shot sorry
[03:16] <coz> I have from synaptic
[03:16] <AntMaz> Rug i saw it before but i dont remeber where the events are in gnome
[03:16] <coz> bimberi thanks
[03:16] <__mikem> Hey
[03:16] <wastrel> Hollowman8904:  you mean to get back to X?  ctrl-alt-f7
[03:16] <salah> thanks
[03:16] <ssstormy> also, use lspci or lsisa etc and see if you can find your soundcard name, then use modprobe -l and look for the name of your soundcard, then use modprobe -v modulename
[03:16] <Hollowman8904> wastrel, no.. i have a console running, but i want it to stop, but can't type anything there
[03:16] <LjL> Hollowman8904: what do you mean you can't type anything?
[03:16] <Klick_> coz,  which packages do you have or better yet what should i use 386 586 or custom, i have a thinkpad x41 centrino
[03:16] <__mikem> I was wondering, do people who are on the ubuntu development team hang out in here, because I had a great idea that I want to propose
[03:16] <Hollowman8904> well.. i type exit and nothign happens
[03:17] <LjL> Hollowman8904: try pressing Enter, then typing "reset", then Enter
[03:17] <B4sh>  I see it all clearly now Ray( Formidable).You were going to add me to msn, yet you didn't because the dedicated server "fell through" .So, I see that as the possibilty of me just have being used in a sense because you'd just "put up with me " because you would want to run your game you had mentioned.Thanks alot. Thanks for showing me what a "true" friend isn't.
[03:17] <coz> Klick_ I used the 386 on 32 bit system
[03:17] <LjL> Hollowman8904: otherwise, open up another console, do a "ps aux", and find out why that console is stuck
[03:17] <coz> plus the mozilla plugin for the browser
[03:17] <wastrel> LjL:  ctrl-c would be safer than the first enter maybe ;] 
[03:17] <__mikem> I was wondering, do people who are on the ubuntu development team hang out in here, because I had a great idea that I want to propose
[03:17] <Hollowman8904> nothing.. blank lines just keep coming it
[03:17] <Hollowman8904> in*+
[03:17] <Klick_> coz and which version of mencoder? no 386 available
[03:17] <LjL> wastrel: yeah i suppose so
[03:17] <LjL> Hollowman8904: do try ctrl+x
[03:17] <LjL> +c
[03:17] <coz> mencoder good question i will check
[03:18] <coz> I am not sure Klick_
[03:18] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: thanks
[03:18] <Hollowman8904> ah that worked
[03:18] <Hollowman8904> thanks
[03:18] <Hollowman8904> the ctrl+x+c
[03:18] <LjL> Hollowman8904: that's ctrl+c
[03:18] <Klick_> coz synaptic doesnt tell you?
[03:18] <chp43> Hollowman8904: ctrl+c
[03:18] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, man I could be more help if I wasn't hopping from distro to distro... the commands are kind different sometimes...
[03:18] <coz> hold on
[03:18] <coz> Klink_ hold on
[03:19] <Hollowman8904> ah ok
[03:19] <LjL> Hollowman8904: the x was a typo. anyway, that's the first thing you should always try when a program is not responding anymore, though i didn't even think about it
[03:19] <Hollowman8904> well x got thrown in there too
[03:19] <sdfzx> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[03:19] <sdfzx>  << what does it mean?
[03:19] <Hollowman8904> ok i didn't know that... im pretty new to linux :)
[03:19] <LjL> sdfzx: perhaps you should close synaptic
[03:19] <sdfzx> ah
[03:19] <sdfzx> okies
[03:19] <sdfzx> thanks
[03:19] <ssstormy> sdfzx, it means you need to be root, or synaptic/dpkg/apt-get is open
[03:19] <sdfzx> okies okies
[03:19] <sdfzx> :)
[03:20] <sdfzx> thanks for helping
[03:20] <coz> lick_ actualli don't have it installed but I have no problems with anything with mplayer
[03:20] <coz> klick_
[03:20] <__mikem> I was wondering, do people who are on the ubuntu development team hang out in here, because I had a great idea that I want to propose
[03:20] <KakiPukul> synaptic/dpkg/apt-get is open << this symptom is the correct answer
[03:20] <coz> Klick_ what exactly is the problem
[03:20] <sdfzx> :)
[03:20] <Klick_> coz ok i just installed 386 version and this is what happens when i try to play a video
[03:20] <Klick_> MPlayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM.
[03:20] <Klick_>   Recompile MPlayer with --enable-debug and make a 'gdb
[03:20] <sdfzx> i cant install ymessenger
[03:21] <sdfzx> pls help
[03:21] <wastrel> sdfzx:  gaim supports yahoo messenger
[03:21] <__mikem> sdfzx what are you doing to install it
[03:21] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: i understand.  i am hopping from windows to this... and never realized how much i like sound.  =)
[03:21] <Klick_> how do i put compile options into a deb package, is the question i guess coz
[03:21] <sdfzx> i just followed the instructions in yahoo website
[03:21] <sdfzx> dpkg -i <filename.deb>
[03:21] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: gotta get everything working to even have a chance of getting the wife to convert
[03:21] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, dunno what you got till it's gone, huh
[03:22] <__mikem> is there a package that its available on
[03:22] <sdfzx> did i choose the right file?
[03:22] <coz> Klick I am trying to talk on the private window are  you getting my messages
[03:22] <__mikem> package REPOSITORY
[03:22] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, well you should try installing it on a junk hd for her
[03:22] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: yeah, that and i can't hear people sneaking up behind me in enemy territory
[03:22] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, not every computer has these problems
[03:22] <__mikem> is there a repository its available on
[03:22] <sdfzx> what sir?
[03:22] <coz> Looks pretty hectic in here Klick_ nothing can get donw
[03:22] <coz> done
[03:22] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, my soundcard worked fine, but I had other problems, so you should just try it on hers to see if it runs problem free
[03:23] <Klick_> coz,  maybe a later time? or do you just mean your response time might be slow
[03:24] <El-Cid> smokin the cheeba 8 days a weej
[03:24] <__mikem> sdfzx, if you can find a repository that has the package you are looking for, you can use apt-get
[03:24] <El-Cid> week*
[03:24] <Klick_> i got about 200 error lines of the following repeating over and over if it helps inform you in anyway..
[03:24] <Klick_> FAAD: error: Maximum number of scalefactor bands exceeded, trying to resync!
[03:24] <Klick_> FAAD: Failed to decode frame: Maximum number of scalefactor bands exceeded
[03:24] <wastrel> Klick_:  did you try using a different program to play the video?
[03:24] <LjL> sdfzx: what's the problem?
[03:24] <coz> Klick I mean later time I cannot seem to get you on theprivate message
[03:24] <LjL> sdfzx: what does dpkg complain about?
[03:24] <_jason> coz: you need to be registered
[03:24] <mandicks> hi.....
[03:24] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: well, it is just the main machine now dual booting
[03:25] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: my 3 year old has the other 2 computers... and he won't let me put on linux.  =P
[03:25] <jbmalone> Hey
[03:25] <coz> -jaison i am registered
[03:25] <_jason> coz: and identified?
[03:25] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, can he even say "linux"?
[03:25] <coz> yes
[03:25] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: weird thing is, other people with my same mobo, 1 revision newer (but same sound card) have working audio without any problems
[03:25] <coz> go figure
[03:25] <Klick_> wastrel,  yes i tried with totem-xine and kaffiene, but they both suck, the video is choppy and audo is off sync, mplayer seems to be the best if i can just get it working, i tried to install the source mplayer off their homepage, and video worked perfect, but no alsa support
[03:26] <_jason> coz: check, /whois says you aren't
[03:26] <KakiPukul> VLC! XINE!
[03:26] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: he can say anything... he just came into my pc room and asked me to take the wireless card out of his laptop since i wouldn't let him print his paint pictures...
[03:26] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, man I hate my mobo sometimes.  on occasion, when I boot, the mobo dosnt' see my sound card, and I am without sound card until reboot.  but, that's what i get for a mobo that cost $27 when I bought it new
[03:26] <delmar> So what ubuntu type apps are there for cpu temp monitoring?
[03:26] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: lol
[03:26] <nate_> anyone know how to make deb packages for ubuntu?
[03:27] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: the first recommendation i got was to go buy myself a $15 sound card... now i am seriously considering it
[03:27] <ssstormy> delmar, there's a system monitor gnome-panel app
[03:27] <KakiPukul> nate_: : first of all, install the build-essential package :)
[03:27] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, do a little more reading.  It's not a wildy unusual problem
[03:27] <Eleaf> What are some great 3d games? ;)
[03:27] <Eleaf> I think I've played every single one.
[03:27] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: believe me... i googled for 3 days before coming to irc for help
[03:27] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: tried everything i found there
[03:27] <Alashua> where can i get video editing software? thanks!
[03:28] <Klick_> wastrel, any ideas?
[03:28] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, now that's dedication
[03:28] <Seyekoh> ssstormy: well, kid is calling, going to have to fight with this later
[03:28] <bit_seqz> Alashua, kino
[03:28] <ssstormy> Alashua, look for Kino, cinellera, or LiVEs
[03:28] <ssstormy> Seyekoh, good luck
[03:28] <Alashua> actually, where can i go for software in general. i'm new
[03:28] <LjL> Alashua: "apt-cache search video edit" could be a start
[03:28] <ssstormy> bit_seqz, does kino work for you normally?  it dosn't work for me at all...
[03:28] <delmar> ssstormy, whats the app called?
[03:28] <LjL> !tell Alashua about shortapt
[03:28] <LjL> !tell Alashua about repos
[03:28] <nate_> KakiPukul, already been done
[03:28] <ssstormy> delmar, one moment
[03:28] <Alashua> thanks all!!!
[03:28] <jerry> hi room
[03:28] <bit_seqz> ssstormy, havnt had time to play with it.
[03:29] <Alashua> ljl - gotcha thanks
[03:30] <nate_> i'm looking to build a debian package for ubuntu that distributes some configuration files, can anyone at least point me in some general direction?
[03:30] <ssstormy> delmar, sudo apt-get install sensors-applet <- has support for all your hardware sensors
[03:30] <ssstormy> don't forget oyu have to put it on the panel yourself
[03:30] <ph4tjunior69> who want suck my dick!!
[03:30] <tagaamoa> why does i can't log on to my gi gnome without typing startx
[03:30] <Alashua> this place is awesome
[03:30] <wastrel> Klick_:  just try a different player...  i use mplayer or totem as events warrant.  if it doesn't play on either of those i usually don't bother.  are you using the win32 codecs or freeformats?
[03:30] <Klick_> win32
[03:30] <Klick_> i think.. i downloaded a package called avi-win32
[03:30] <ssstormy> nate_, that probabl ywon't work great... dpkg has a funciton that stops it from overwriting any files in a package that is of a different name
[03:31] <varsendagger> how do i make a render farm?
[03:31] <suryam> !tell suryam
[03:31] <KakiPukul> VLC! Xine!
[03:31] <wastrel> varsendagger:  i think you need a lot of computers for that
[03:31] <ssstormy> varsendagger, look on the internet for guides... that's not the kinda thing we can just say "do this, this and this"
[03:31] <sdfzx> what is the command to know the available free space of the drive?
[03:31] <delmar> ssstormy, nope.. that package isnt available... apt-cache search sensors only shows a couple of lib packages and lm-sensors etc.
[03:31] <varsendagger> true
[03:31] <varsendagger> thanks
[03:31] <Klick_> wastrel, none of the other apps seem to work for me
[03:31] <ssstormy> delmar, have you enabled the security, backports and other repositires in synaptic/apt-get?
[03:31] <Drac|Laptop> How do I add a user to sudo?
[03:32] <ssstormy> Drac|Laptop, visudo
[03:32] <pudland> !VLC !Xine
[03:32] <ubotu> pudland: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:32] <sdfzx> what is the command to know the available free space of the drive?
[03:32] <_jason> Drac|Laptop: add him to the admin group
[03:32] <Klick_> Anyon here able to help me get mplayer workin in ubuntu, i want to use alsa sound output and have had no luck
[03:32] <ssstormy> Drac|Laptop, that lets you edit the permission file.  never do it any other way, always use the command "visudo"
[03:32] <nate_> ssstormy, is there another way?
[03:32] <chp43> Drac|Laptop: edit /etc/sudoers .. i believe
[03:32] <varsendagger> has anyone used a render farm?
[03:32] <bimberi> sdfzx: df -h
[03:32] <LjL> nate_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ could be a start. but if you have some patience, i know there are some people here who are quite experienced with building packages, just try asking again in a while
[03:32] <ssstormy> sdfzx, df -hs
[03:32] <delmar> ssstormy. everything in sources.list is untouched and default.
[03:32] <Kr4t05> Ok
[03:32] <chp43> Drac|Laptop: what ssstormy said
[03:32] <Kr4t05> Having issues.
[03:33] <ssstormy> nate_, you could have a tar.gz package that extracts in the root directory...
[03:33] <delmar> ssstormy, its a fresh install, plus just did online updates etc.
[03:33] <ssstormy> delmar, that is the problem
[03:33] <delmar> k
[03:33] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to install blackbox with this HOWTO: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125084
[03:33] <TdC_VgA> anyway to make the windows stick to borders or other windows?
[03:33] <LjL> delmar: do enable at least security and bugfixes -- though i'm quite sure they're enabled by default
[03:33] <nate_> ssstormy, how would i specify it to extract in the root directory?
[03:33] <ssstormy> delmar, go into the /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all the comment-outs from the sources, except the deb-src entries
[03:33] <Kr4t05> When I try to use "cd .blackbox" in doesn't work.
[03:33] <bad_iNFO> i need to know where in KDE i configure xwindows res?\
[03:33] <sdfzx> thanks bimberi
[03:33] <wastrel> TdC_VgA:  hold shift as you drag (in gnome)
[03:33] <hb_> hey all. i have a latitude d505 and can't make direct rendering work, have any opinion?
[03:33] <ssstormy> nate_, you can't do it like that.  something like that would have to be hand-done by the user
[03:33] <bimberi> sdfzx: yw :)
[03:33] <TdC_VgA> wastrel: thank you so much =)
[03:34] <bad_iNFO> i try to use command line and it says i have to log in as root
[03:34] <LjL> bad_iNFO: you don't. actually, there is a place, but that doesn't usually work ;)
[03:34] <LjL> !tell bad_info about root
[03:34] <TdC_VgA> wastrel: anyway to make that the default behavior?
[03:34] <Kr4t05> !blackbox
[03:34] <ubotu> Kr4t05: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:34] <Kr4t05> :/
[03:34] <Syns> is there any way that i can record music from xmms
[03:34] <bad_iNFO> well here's my problem when i open windows the windows are below my screen and i can't resize the bottom
[03:34] <Syns> ?
[03:34] <Jeffrae> mkdosfs: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sda' (use -I if wanted)
[03:34] <LjL> bad_iNFO: the place is settings / peripherals / display anyway - but really, your best bet is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:34] <wastrel> TdC_VgA:  if you find out, let me know :] 
[03:34] <varsendagger> Syns get streamripper along with streamtuner
[03:34] <Jeffrae> This is what I get on a bran dnew unformatted 250gig drive
[03:34] <ssstormy> Syns, you can easily use "sound recorder" from the applications menyu
[03:34] <bit_seqz> Syns, change the output plugin to diskwriter in xmms
[03:34] <delmar> there are 4 sources commented out... hoary universe, and hoary-security universe.
[03:35] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to install blackbox with this HOWTO: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125084
[03:35] <delmar> ill uncomment both
[03:35] <Kr4t05> When I try to use "cd .blackbox" in doesn't work.
[03:35] <ssstormy> delmar, wait is your syustem hoary or breezy?
[03:35] <varsendagger> Kr4t05, what does it say?
[03:35] <nate_> ssstormy, see, i'm trying to automate it, hence why a package would be ideal
[03:35] <Klick_> Anyone know were i could get some help on installing mplayer for ubuntu?
[03:35] <Jeffrae> do I need to fdisk it first?
[03:35] <_jason> Kr4t05: you probably need to login to blackbox once for it to create the directory
[03:35] <KakiPukul> cd .blackbox? are you trying to cd to nonexistant dir?
[03:35] <delmar> ssstormy, all other sources refer to hoary.
[03:35] <TdC_VgA> wastrel: will do
[03:35] <Kr4t05> varsendagger: bash: cd: .blackbox: No such file or directory
[03:35] <Kr4t05> _jason: How?
[03:35] <delmar> ssstormy, what is breezy? testing kinda deal?
[03:36] <Eleaf> lol...
[03:36] <LjL> delmar: breezy is the current ubuntu version
[03:36] <ssstormy> nate_, well probably the easiest automation would be a .sh script that did it all, if given root permissions
[03:36] <delmar> LjL, so what is hoary?
[03:36] <ssstormy> delmar, breezy is the offical release now
[03:36] <Eleaf> delmar, hoary is the older version
[03:36] <ssstormy> hoary is the old release
[03:36] <LjL> delmar: breezy is also known as version 5.10. hoary (version 5.04) was the version before breezy, and dapper (6.10) will be the next version
[03:36] <ssstormy> or AN old release
[03:36] <varsendagger> do a ls -a and se if there is a .blackbox
[03:36] <KakiPukul> they are codename for ubuntu releases
[03:36] <Eleaf> delmar, dapper drake is the newest testing one
[03:36] <nate_> ssstormy, mmkay
[03:36] <varsendagger> it looks like you mistyped somthing
[03:36] <LjL> Eleaf: "testing"?
[03:36] <sambagirl> the live cd has some programs on it if you look at it with explorer from windows, it offers the opportunity to install these applications , are they for installation for windows computers?
[03:36] <delmar> ok..
[03:36] <varsendagger> Kr4t05,
[03:37] <Jeffrae> mkdosfs <-- Do I need to use fdisk to partition before doing this?
[03:37] <bimberi> LjL: 6.04 :)
[03:37] <varsendagger> that up there was for you
[03:37] <LjL> Eleaf: oh, you said dapper, nevermind
[03:37] <bad_iNFO> ok so i want to do that command but it says i have to be logged on as root
[03:37] <biovore> ?
[03:37] <sambagirl> opencd or something like this
[03:37] <Eleaf> LjL, sure
[03:37] <Eleaf> lol
[03:37] <LjL> bimberi: yeah whatever :)
[03:37] <Kr4t05> varsendagger: ls: .blackbox: No such file or directory
[03:37] <ssstormy> Jeffrae, yeah, if you don't already have the partitions the way ytou want
[03:37] <bit_seqz> sambagirl, yes
[03:37] <delmar> So the updates have been making it current but for hoary.
[03:37] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:37] <varsendagger> just ls -a
[03:37] <sambagirl> neat thanks
[03:37] <varsendagger> ls -a
[03:37] <_jason> Kr4t05: just do 'mkdir ~/.blackbox' instead and follow the directions I guess
[03:37] <bimberi> LjL: yeah, unnecessarily picky sorry :)
[03:37] <LjL> delmar: err... if you had installed hoary, then yeah =)
[03:37] <delmar> do I need to change all the sources and re-update or is there anotehr tidy/ubunty way of doing things?
[03:37] <bad_iNFO> how do i make it so i can log on as root?
[03:37] <Jeffrae> Well doesn't mkdosfs just make a fat partition?
[03:37] <Kr4t05> _jason: Ok
[03:38] <delmar> what do I do to make it update to the latest current .. al lnice and tidy...
[03:38] <LjL> delmar: i suppose you'd have been much better off installing breezy from the start. you can upgrade, though, but a clean install could possibly be best
[03:38] <ssstormy> delmar, apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:38] <delmar> ssstormy, done that already.
[03:38] <maxkelley> meh, who called me?
[03:38] <ssstormy> oh, maybve I misunderstand it's use...
[03:38] <delmar> ssstormy, but i need to change the sources.list first i guess.
[03:38] <delmar> hrm. ok.
[03:38] <LjL> bimberi: nah, it's just that nobody ever uses version numbers, so i don't quite have them by heart yet ;)
[03:38] <KakiPukul> dist-upgrade could take forever on my EDGE connection, LoL
[03:38] <TdC_VgA> man this is an old version of firefox
[03:39] <Kr4t05> _jason: How do I log into blackbox?
[03:39] <TdC_VgA> gotta fix that heh
[03:39] <ssstormy> delmar, look in your pm window
[03:39] <LjL> !tell delmar about breezy
[03:39] <delmar> it wont take long to re-install... perhaps ill download the latest current .ISO
[03:39] <aaronshaf> is there an easy way to access my computer by it's computer name, rather than it's IP?
[03:39] <delmar> thats.
[03:39] <delmar> thanks
[03:39] <KakiPukul> Kr4t05: i think you can run it using 'blackbox' in cli
[03:39] <bimberi> bad_iNFO: you don't have to log in as root.  you can 'sudo <command>' or use 'sudo -i' to get a root shell
[03:39] <KakiPukul> aaronshaf: : type hostname
[03:39] <ssstormy> aaronshaf, get an address for free at www.dyndns.org
[03:39] <bimberi> LjL: :)
[03:40] <ddonky> anyone using a canon i475d photo printer?
[03:40] <_jason> Kr4t05: finish setting it up, after that you should be able to choose it in the sessions menu at the gdm login screen
[03:40] <bit_seqz> aaronshaf, you can put it in your /etc/hosts file
[03:40] <Jeffrae> do I want win95 fat32 or wind95 fat32 lba???
[03:40] <Jeffrae> what is the standard that removable drives use?
[03:40] <ssstormy> Jeffrae, lba is for really big drives i. e. +127GB
[03:40] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:40] <Jeffrae> this is 250g
[03:40] <ssstormy> oh
[03:40] <^Ocean^> i thouht Lba was for anything over 33gig
[03:40] <newbie> guys
[03:41] <damian_> hey i just installed the w32 codecs package TOTEM still wont play anything whitch other wachages do i need?
[03:41] <KakiPukul> 127GB
[03:41] <Klick_> Anyone here able to help me get mplayer working, i get this error
[03:41] <Bean> if i launch something from the terminal (eg. "gaim") how do i do it so i can continue using that terminal?
[03:41] <newbie> why i cant access on my administration sub menu
[03:41] <Klick_> Player interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_video
[03:41] <Klick_> - MPlayer crashed by bad usage of CPU/FPU/RAM.
[03:41] <Klick_>   Recompile MPlayer with --enable-debug and make a 'gdb' backtrace and dissambley
[03:41] <damian_> hey i just installed the w32 codecs package TOTEM still wont play anything whitch other packaages do i need?
[03:41] <KakiPukul> that's for the older "LArge drive"
[03:41] <ssstormy> damian_, yoy must have totem-gstreamer
[03:41] <sambagirl> dont use totem damian_
[03:41] <newbie> i got an error Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory)
[03:41] <ssstormy> damian_, install totem-xine
[03:41] <braniff> Bean, <command> &
[03:41] <sambagirl> use videolan or vlc
[03:41] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:41] <KakiPukul> damian_: : totem need gstreamer plugins, not w32codecs
[03:41] <ssstormy> Bean, add a "&" one space after
[03:42] <Jeffrae> but for a new large drive straight fat32 with no lba is fine?
[03:42] <Klick_> damian_,  totem-xine and vlc suck just as bad, join with me in trying to get some help on mplayer
[03:42] <KakiPukul> try to install all the gstreamer plugins...
[03:42] <zx8> how to i make my windows transparent?
[03:42] <jiisu> Hey guys. I need to install the fglrx driver but i hae mesa
[03:42] <KakiPukul> xine!
[03:42] <KakiPukul> xine!
[03:42] <Bean> thanks braniff & ssstormy
[03:42] <jiisu> how do i safely remove mesa and install fglrx?
[03:42] <damian_> use mplayer donw like it its good and all but i want something that plays video and music
[03:42] <sambagirl> vlc is the finest progarm ever developed and is only second to the Amiga computer in quality.
[03:42] <damian_> so totem-xine eh
[03:42] <damian_> and look for a gstreamer plugins pack
[03:42] <damian_> np
[03:42] <LjL> sambagirl: don't exaggerate
[03:42] <ssstormy> Bean, alos you can pause a command with ctl+z, and start it again with "fg #" (it will tel lyou what # it is on pause)
[03:42] <zx8> vlc is very nice i agree
[03:43] <damian_> well video and myusi8c not one fuile at a time
[03:43] <zx8> type : jobs
[03:43] <damian_> and it has a promitive playlist
[03:43] <varsendagger> hey i am just getting started with adobe illustrator, and i really like the look of vector images, is there a linux program that is like it?
[03:43] <ssstormy> damian_, you realize mpalyer plays music and video right?
[03:43] <zx8> to see al stopped jobs with ^Z
[03:43] <ssstormy> varsendagger, inkscape
[03:43] <Klick_> damian_, mplayer works great with xmms for music and video
[03:43] <LjL> ssstormy, Bean: if just one process was put into the background, "fg" alone will restore it
[03:43] <sambagirl> videloan plays everthing.
[03:43] <newbie> how to start gnome without typing startx
[03:43] <sambagirl> and streams too
[03:43] <damian_> explain klick
[03:44] <damian_> xmmplayer?
[03:44] <sambagirl> LjL maybe i exagerrate slightyly
[03:44] <sambagirl> about amiga yes
[03:44] <LjL> newbie: err, unless you did something quite messed up while installing ubuntu, you should *not* be using startx to start gnome
[03:44] <LjL> sambagirl: no, about vlc....
[03:44] <KakiPukul> xine! xine!
[03:44] <Klick_> damian_,  you just open xmms and choose a video or a mp3 and it plays it
[03:44] <ssstormy> LjL it's not really into the background.. not if you used ctl+z - that pauses it outright
[03:44] <Klick_> but you need mplayer and xmms-mplayer installed
[03:44] <frazmanw> anyone know how to extract the files from a windows exe file in ubuntu. (I do not want to install anything)
[03:44] <Klick_> but i am getting errors and cant figure out what they mean or how ot fix them
[03:44] <LjL> ssstormy: pauses it and puts it into the background, yeah. anyway, "fg" will still restore it if no other jobs are in the background
[03:45] <Klick_> anyone know?
[03:45] <Jeffrae> should I use lba for my 250gig drive?
[03:45] <wastrel> frazmanw:  some self-extracting zip .exe's can be opened with unzip.
[03:45] <damian_> Klick yeaqh that plugin is 3 years old its discontinued buggy and you CANNOT fullscreen
[03:45] <KakiPukul> YES, Jeffrae
[03:45] <Klick_> damian_, works perfect on my gentoo box
[03:45] <wastrel> frazmanw:  otherwise you might have to use wine
[03:45] <newbie> LjL, i got an error msg on my screen
[03:45] <frazmanw> wastrel: tks.
[03:45] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:45] <damian_> klick fullscreen?
[03:45] <ssstormy> Jeffrae, probably a safe bet
[03:45] <Klick_> all you do is pres f and it goes full screen
[03:45] <Jeffrae> Thanks
[03:45] <tideline> quick question - where are the nic config files kept on ubuntu?  The files I am looking for are equivalent to RH's /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX
[03:45] <Klick_> or you can set it to open videos full screen by default
[03:46] <LjL> tideline: perhaps /etc/network
[03:46] <damian_> Klick_ nbot for me
[03:46] <ssstormy> tideline, I think it was /etc/net/
[03:46] <damian_> Klick_ not for me oh well
[03:46] <Klick_> damian_, you probably dont have permission to go full screen as the user you are
[03:46] <LjL> newbie: if X is not running, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" should get it going, unless something is wrong with your setup
[03:46] <ssstormy> tideline, sorry about that
[03:46] <ssstormy> I had gentoo on the mind there...
[03:46] <damian_> Klick really so i could sudo xmms and try
[03:46] <newbie> LjL, ok
[03:47] <wastrel> it's /etc/network/interfaces  prolly.  dunno from redhat
[03:47] <tideline> LjL thanks - is that where I would setup a wireless nic as well - in the interfaces file?
[03:47] <KakiPukul> ... /etc/network/interfaces
[03:47] <LjL> tideline: no idea really, i'd always dealt with cables
[03:47] <tideline> just create another iface block?
[03:47] <KakiPukul> ALL network interfaces is configured in that one single file, tideline
[03:47] <Klick_> damian_, it could be a number of things, but it works for me
[03:48] <Jeffrae> thanks
[03:48] <wastrel> tideline:  my wifi card is configured in /etc/network/interfaces -  it may be different if you have to use ndiswrapper - not sure...
[03:48] <tideline> KakiPukul - thanks having a bit of trouble with Dell 1300 minipci card
[03:48] <theBishop> i just found a cool app in the universe called Stellarium
[03:48] <Jeffrae> ok
[03:48] <tideline> yeah i already installed nidswrapper with the necessary driver
[03:48] <Jeffrae> created my partition
[03:48] <theBishop> anyone have a favorite project?
[03:49] <ssstormy> theBishop, ipodlinux and xbox-linux
[03:49] <chp43> wastrel tideline: nope. using ndiswrapper. configuration is still specified in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:49] <LjL> theBishop: try kstars and celestia as well
[03:49] <Jeffrae> to make it usable in winxp do I need to  sudo mkdosfs -F32 -nJeffsBackup /dev/sda ??
[03:49] <tideline> i just didnt know where to create the interface
[03:49] <tideline> ok thanks ill try that
[03:49] <KakiPukul> wastrel: : it is still the same... all netwok ifs is there
[03:49] <ssstormy> theBishop, but those are independentof ubuntu
[03:50] <Klick_> well if no one is able to help me with mplayer, maybe you can help me get vlc to work, i have it installed and the plugins i saw for it, but it still wont play certain videos, any idea how i can get support for these...
[03:50] <Jeffrae> or can I just format that bad boy?
[03:50] <Klick_> klick@timehak:/data/Videos$ vlc get_video-7.avi
[03:50] <Klick_> VLC media player 0.8.4-svn20040920 Janus
[03:50] <Klick_> [00000271]  main input error: invalid group number
[03:50] <Klick_> [00000320]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `undf'.
[03:50] <Klick_> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[03:50] <Klick_> Segmentation fault
[03:50] <LjL> !tell Klick_ about paste
[03:51] <kameron> welcome danielnewbie
[03:51] <danielnewbie> hey Kameron
[03:51] <LjL> theBishop: actually, on a second thought, swap those, and try celestia first ;)
[03:52] <wastrel> theBishop:  pymol
[03:53] <newbie> Details: Failed to execute child process "gksudo" (No such file or directory) anyone can help me?
[03:53] <danielnewbie> Hey, I'm wondering if anyone knows how to make the network card activate automatically every time Ubuntu starts?
[03:53] <kameron> newbie, sudo apt-get install gksudo.
[03:53] <tagabasak_> k
[03:53] <KakiPukul> vlc doesn't play Real or QT...
[03:53] <_jason> newbie: what causes that?
[03:53] <KakiPukul> well, by default, but you still can install the plugins...
[03:53] <kameron> newbie, gksudo is a program suitable for launching GUI applications with root privledges. otherwise, things mess up.
[03:53] <theBishop> i don't need another constellation program, just other cool GPL apps that may not be general-purpose applications
[03:54] <tagabasak_> kameron, i got this msg E: Couldn't find package gksudo
[03:54] <wastrel> danielnewbie:  there's an option for that in the network interface configuration dealy...  or you can add  "auto <iface name>"  in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:54] <danielnewbie> ok
[03:54] <danielnewbie> thanks
[03:54] <LjL> theBishop: celestia is not quite that, it's a 3D app that shows you planets and deepsky objects in a high detail
[03:55] <KakiPukul> newbie is really... nvm
[03:55] <jiisu> LjL do you know how to replace mesa with ai?
[03:55] <jiisu> ati*
[03:55] <kameron> !tell tagabasak_ about easysource
[03:55] <kameron> tagabasak_, you need to setup your sources so it'll find the package.
[03:55] <LjL> jiisu: not really. if you know the packages for mesa and ati, it just becomes a matter of "sudo aptitude remove mesapackage" and "sudo aptitude install atipackage"
[03:56] <jiisu> well thats the problem
[03:56] <jiisu> LjL im not sure of the exact names of both packages
[03:56] <Eleaf> ilk
[03:56] <jiisu> LjL i know i have mesa installed, but i dont know what package
[03:56] <LjL> jiisu: then try "dpkg -l | grep mesa"
[03:56] <KakiPukul> jiisu: : try apt-cache search ati
[03:56] <KakiPukul> or apt-cache search mesa
[03:56] <wastrel> ubotu tell jiisu about ati
[03:57] <LjL> KakiPukul: that won't be very useful ;)
[03:57] <KakiPukul> or better do it with synaptic if you love GUI
[03:57] <LjL> KakiPukul: the problem is that searching ati returns 11081 results.
[03:58] <wastrel> the ati modules are installed with the kernel package afaik
[03:58] <KakiPukul> grep, ati?
[03:58] <LjL> KakiPukul: 3647 results :)
[03:58] <KakiPukul> try fglrx?
[03:58] <LjL> KakiPukul: "grep ATI" looks much better though, 10 results
[03:59] <jiisu> I went to this site
[03:59] <KakiPukul> your iq is way higher than mine, i guess you can do better?
[03:59] <jiisu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:59] <jiisu> that ubotu sent me
[03:59] <pianoboy3333> I got m3p's to work, but what codec do I need in dapper for m4a's? (dapper) can't get an answer on #ubuntu+1
[03:59] <jiisu> this is to uninstall ati
[03:59] <jerware> what does it mean when a route times out?
[03:59] <jiisu> I need to first fiigure out what the package name i have is
[04:00] <KakiPukul> it didn't reach the dest in time? jerware?
[04:00] <pianoboy3333> Well really it's a rhythembox prob, totem-xine plays m4a's fine...
[04:00] <LjL> KakiPukul: no need to be sarcastic. just perhaps avoid blindly telling people to "apt-cache search" stuff... i mean, most of *my* replies involve apt-cache, but i *try* it first to see that it actually returns something usable
[04:00] <neoliminal> Is there an in universe Orinoco wireless driver installer?
[04:00] <jiisu>  libgl1-mesa  This mean anything to anyone?>
[04:00] <KakiPukul> jiisu: , use synaptic, cli sucks when searching
[04:00] <bunny> hey
[04:00] <jiisu> oh i was using the terminal
[04:00] <LjL> KakiPukul: how is cli bad when searching?
[04:01] <twitch101> is there a decent video editor kino is crap
[04:01] <KakiPukul> you just showed the "3647 results :)"
[04:01] <neoliminal> Why isn't orinoco standard for Ubuntu??  I can't seem to get my wireless to work without it.
[04:01] <bunny> hello anyone want to chat
[04:01] <jerware> KakiPakul:  would that mean becuase it's ttl expired?
[04:01] <jetscreamer> jiisu: what are you trying to do
[04:01] <KakiPukul> yeah, ttl is the take it should take to reach a dest...
[04:01] <jetscreamer> ah ati no idea
[04:01] <LjL> KakiPukul: and why would synaptic do any better? in any case, as you suggested and i confirmed, "apt-cache search ati | grep ATI" returns something way more useful
[04:01] <jerware> do packets have a maximum number of hops?
[04:02] <jiisu> jetscreamer remove mesa and install ati
[04:02] <twitch101> is there a decent video editor kino is crap
[04:02] <jiisu> mesa-utils
[04:02] <jiisu> Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
[04:02] <bunny> ggjghg
[04:02] <neoliminal> anyone here using Gateway Laptop?
[04:02] <jiisu> thats what synaptic tells me
[04:02] <jetscreamer> jiisu: no idea i do nvidia ok though
[04:02] <bunny> hkhjklh
[04:02] <jetscreamer> :(
[04:02] <Madpilot> bunny, this isn't a chat channel - try #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:02] <KakiPukul> synaptic is way better... it has visible options at least for the new comers...
[04:02] <LjL> jiisu: have you tried "dpkg -l | grep mesa"?
[04:02] <jetscreamer> dselect > *
[04:02] <jiisu> yeah
[04:02] <KakiPukul> jerware: : yes, 15
[04:02] <jiisu> that gave me craziness
[04:02] <wastrel> why are you trying to remove mesa?  there is no need
[04:02] <wastrel> what are you trying to do?
[04:02] <jiisu> ii  libgl1-mesa                            6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1              A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- r
[04:02] <jiisu> ii  libgl1-mesa-dri                        6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1              A free implementation of the OpenGL API -- D
[04:02] <jiisu> ii  libglu1-mesa                           6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1              Th e OpenGL utility library (GLU)
[04:02] <jiisu> ii  mesa-utils                             6.3.2-0ubuntu6                     Mi scellaneous Mesa GL utilities
[04:02] <KakiPukul> or for ospf, 255
[04:02] <bunny> oh ok dont get an adittide
[04:03] <jiisu> XGL baby
[04:03] <KakiPukul> oh
[04:03] <twitch101> is there a decent video editor kino is crap
[04:03] <KakiPukul> paste it on pastebin
[04:03] <Madpilot> !tell jiisu about pastebin
[04:03] <LjL> KakiPukul: it can be somewhat more user friendly i suppose, yeah... but then it's not altogether more powerful than the apt command line tools, which i use exclusively, as many others do
[04:03] <LjL> jiisu: please don't paste in the channel
[04:03] <wastrel> !xgl
[04:03] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[04:03] <varsendagger> twitch101, i am installing lives right now
[04:03] <KakiPukul> i didn't say i's more power, just easier
[04:03] <KakiPukul> get it, easier?
[04:03] <KurtKraut> I have this plugged in my PC (Bus 003 Device 008: ID 22b8:4902 Motorola PCS E398 GSM Phone) - how can I know what port it is connected (such as /dev/something)
[04:03] <jiisu> my bad
[04:03] <LjL> jiisu: some/many/all of those packages are probably the ones you want to remove
[04:03] <pabs_> what packages do I need to install for ubuntu to recognize my ipod.  (i am running the server installation)
[04:03] <twitch101> can you give me the apt get commmand?
[04:03] <varsendagger> the sources.list is deb http://www.estudiolivre.org/videos/lives/ubuntu/breezy/ binary-i386/
[04:03] <jiisu> indeed
[04:04] <varsendagger> yeah
[04:04] <jerware> KakiPakul:  is this relevent to RIP's timeout timer?
[04:04] <jiisu> LjL how do i remove them and then install fglrx?
[04:04] <varsendagger> twitch101, do you know how to edit sources?
[04:04] <twitch101> no
[04:04] <varsendagger> .list
[04:04] <LjL> KakiPukul: no, 'cause you said "cli sucks when searching". you could also have used other terms by the way
[04:04] <KakiPukul> no... hop count and RIP timer are two different thing
[04:04] <g0st> hi, anyone know how to "restore RGB database...I can't find anything online.
[04:04] <tideline> wastrel KakiPukul LjL - thank for the help, no joy on the built in wifi, but a pcmcia card worked fine. - Thanks for the help though!
[04:05] <twitch101> its freaking spanish!
[04:05] <KakiPukul> pci wifi cards have limited support, better with PC card instead
[04:05] <twitch101> lol
[04:05] <LjL> jiisu: "sudo apt-get remove blah" removes a package... but you should take care. anyway, it'll ask you for confirmation, and it'll list the packages that will also need to be removed
[04:05] <bunny> is this a chat line
[04:05] <LjL> jiisu: i would try and see if removing some of those packages won't involve removing other packages
[04:05] <varsendagger> ok go to cli then type sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list go to the last line of the document and hit i
[04:05] <varsendagger> then type deb http://www.estudiolivre.org/videos/lives/ubuntu/breezy/ binary-i386/
[04:06] <LjL> jiisu: if some package satisfies that requirement, then you're probably safe removing it
[04:06] <jiisu> LjL well i need to install all the ati stuff so i can get xgl runnin smooth
[04:06] <varsendagger> then type :wq
[04:06] <LjL> jiisu: are you sure you actually need to remove the mesa stuff?
[04:06] <MZXGiant> Does anyone else have the problem with the GD library in the Ubuntu PHP4-GD extension that it doesn't work with true-color, transparent PNGs?
[04:06] <LjL> jiisu: i just bought an nvidia card, and installing its drivers didn't involve removing anything
[04:06] <KakiPukul> you don't need to remove mesa to install fglrx and xgl...
[04:06] <jiisu> yes but I have a radeon
[04:06] <jiisu> ya know
[04:07] <jiisu> not an nvidia :-p
[04:07] <varsendagger> that will put you back in cli and then you will be good to go and sudo  apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lives
[04:07] <varsendagger> msg me if you need help
[04:07] <LjL> jiisu: ok but i still don't see why you should need to remove mesa
[04:07] <KakiPukul> MZXGiant:  for PHP Graphics, goto php channels?
[04:07] <twitch101> umm...im gonna try and find a deb on source forge
[04:07] <jiisu> LjL http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=739758
[04:07] <MZXGiant> KakiPukul; I wasn't sure if it was an Ubuntu problem because the version numbers don't match the PHP-filed bugs
[04:08] <jiisu> LjL it seems that i need to fully reinstall the ati pack
[04:08] <engla> My X uses a crazy amount of memory. 291M resident after uptime of 3 days
[04:08] <MZXGiant> i.e. the problem is in GD 2.0.8 and Ubuntu reports GD 2.0.32 (or something to that effect, higher than 8 anyways)
[04:08] <cruiser> can anyone help a new ubuntu user?? trying to install Divx611
[04:08] <KakiPukul> I am sure it's the library;s fault, not the whole Ubuntu distro...
[04:08] <jiisu> LjL unless im reading that horribly wrong
[04:08] <engla> normal to use this much?
[04:08] <LjL> jiisu: that thread doesn't even mention removing mesa
[04:08] <cruiser> trying to get the install.sh to work right
[04:08] <wastrel> twitch101:  a deb for what?
[04:08] <twitch101> to install it...
[04:08] <twitch101> isnt that what i have to do
[04:08] <jiisu> LjL, well dont you need to remove mesa to install ati?
[04:08] <twitch101> im on hoary 5.04
[04:08] <twitch101> not breezy
[04:08] <KakiPukul> cruiser: : paste the errors to paste bin/
[04:09] <varsendagger> twitch101, save yourself some time and just do what i said
[04:09] <jiisu> LjL how can you have 2 drivers running side by side?
[04:09] <twitch101> i dont use breezy
[04:09] <varsendagger> you'll learn somthing
[04:09] <jiisu> LjL or is that why everyone loves linux
[04:09] <twitch101> i dont wanna learn :P
[04:09] <LjL> jiisu: mesa is not a driver
[04:09] <jiisu> LjL what is it?
[04:09] <KakiPukul> it's a graphic library!
[04:09] <cruiser> dont get any erros
[04:09] <jiisu> ok then
[04:09] <jiisu> so
[04:09] <LjL> jiisu: it's a software OpenGL renderer, if i'm not mistaken
[04:09] <KakiPukul> then, what's the problem, cruiser?
[04:10] <jiisu> i can put in fglrx without removing it?
[04:10] <cruiser> just get the license stuff in the term window and can't seem to get past that
[04:10] <KakiPukul> ati fglrx is the driver for ATi cards
[04:10] <LjL> jiisu: as i said, i didn't need to remove any mesa to install my nvidia, so again, i don't see why you should need to, unless ATI is something special
[04:10] <KakiPukul> jiisu: : yes, of course!
[04:10] <wastrel> twitch101:  to install what?
[04:10] <jiisu> man linux is a tad confusing
[04:10] <Myrth`> hi
[04:10] <cruiser> divx611
[04:10] <jiisu> so how do i know what driver i have installed now?
[04:10] <avatar_> i tried installing f-spot (from multiverse, i think), but i get "The hostname could not be parsed" when attempting to launch it. anyone know whats going on?
[04:10] <LjL> jiisu: i think you're somewhat making it more confusing than necessary ;)
[04:11] <varsendagger> twitch is afradi of edithing his sources.list
[04:11] <jiisu> LjL :-p
[04:11] <twitch101> lives video editor
[04:11] <buggzero> can anyone help me with some compiling issues?
[04:11] <cedriczg> hello all
[04:11] <Myrth`> i've installed server version of ubuntu, where do i find how to update packages from the net and install kubuntu? thanks
[04:11] <KakiPukul> jiisu: : let's make it this way, mesa = graphic library, ati fglrx = the X driver for ATi graphics cars
[04:11] <cedriczg> actually I was going to ask about the sources.list
[04:11] <KakiPukul> cards
[04:11] <LjL> jiisu: open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the "Device" section for your video card, and look at the "Driver" option
[04:11] <varsendagger> twitch101, lives is pretty cool
[04:11] <_jason> cedriczg: what about it?
[04:11] <LjL> jiisu: that will tell you which graphics driver is being used
[04:12] <cedriczg> how to make synaptic work ok?
[04:12] <jiisu> LjL and i do this in the terminal?
[04:12] <LjL> jiisu: you do this wherever you like
[04:12] <KakiPukul> wiith any editor, cli, or GUI
[04:12] <_jason> cedriczg: heh, I'll assume you mean enable universe and multiverse, correct me if I am wrong
[04:12] <Kelsey23> lalalala ubuntu doesnt have PueFTPd in the repositories, or does it under a different name?
[04:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell cedriczg about repos
[04:12] <cedriczg> I could make it work doing sudo apt-get update
[04:12] <wastrel> twitch101:  i don't recommend installing a non-ubuntu .deb.  if there's a tarball that would be better
[04:12] <buggzero> Im trying to compile GimpShop, and at the end of the compile i get some errors?
[04:13] <Installer36> sudo geidt /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:13] <cedriczg> but then agian after rebooting
[04:13] <_jason> buggzero: you probably need to put them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for someone to try to help you
[04:13] <wastrel> woo what's gimpshop?
[04:13] <cedriczg> I recieve the same errors
[04:13] <KakiPukul> gedit...
[04:13] <jiisu> LjL
[04:13] <jiisu> ok well i did that in the terminal
[04:13] <LjL> wastrel: hm, really? i would have tended to say the opposite
[04:13] <varsendagger> here let me explain what i was telling you, the sources.list tells apt-get where to look for .deb files   the ones for ubuntu aren't all the debs in the world, in fact there are some pretty cool things out there
[04:13] <buggzero> got it _jason, thats a good name by the way
[04:13] <Kelsey23> bah tell him to use nano
[04:13] <cruiser> kakiPukul  i type sudo ./install.sh am i missing something?  and all i get in the term agreement in the windows
[04:13] <_jason> buggzero: yes, I like it :)
[04:13] <varsendagger> gimpshop is a hack to make gimp look like photoshop
[04:13] <cedriczg> Yes it's about having the right sources.list and make it work
[04:13] <varsendagger> pretty cool
[04:14] <KakiPukul> cruiser:  is that divx for windows?
[04:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell cedriczg about easysource
[04:14] <KakiPukul> or is it for linux?
[04:14] <cruiser> no its for linux
[04:14] <Kelsey23> um, Ubuntu has to PureFTPd?
[04:14] <_jason> cedriczg: you can make yourself a new one if you feel taht is the problem, just check your last private emssage from ubotu
[04:14] <KakiPukul> cruiser, what did you do?
[04:14] <cedriczg> It's kind of I have to do "Reload" on the Synaptic repo every time
[04:14] <wastrel> LjL:  for me, if i install from a tarball, everything's nicely contained in /usr/local or /opt or wherever.  whereas if i install a foreign .deb - i don't know where everything will end up - or whether i'll be able to remove it
[04:14] <twitch101> varens can you make a channel so i can foxus i have add and all these other messages are are distracting
[04:14] <cruiser> download the tar File
[04:14] <cedriczg> I made a personal one
[04:14] <KakiPukul> Kelsey23: : yes in the universe section...
[04:14] <cruiser> unzipped it in a program file
[04:14] <Kelsey23> what is the name of the package?
[04:14] <cedriczg> _jason, I made it
[04:15] <cedriczg> _jason, but I still have problems
[04:15] <LjL> wastrel: well, when you "sudo make install", you really don't know where the makefile is going to put stuff -- though fortunately most makefiles are well behaved
[04:15] <cruiser> then i typed "sudo ./install.sh"
[04:15] <_jason> cedriczg: what problems?
[04:15] <cruiser> thats folder
[04:15] <cedriczg> _jason, And I had to do the sudo apt-get update
[04:15] <KakiPukul> I am really confused with all this words...
[04:15] <cruiser> the window pops up with do u accept the terms and thats it
[04:15] <cedriczg> _jason, the clasical errors at the beggining of the synaptic
[04:16] <Kelsey23> KakiPukul: what is the name of the PureFTPd pacakge?
[04:16] <LjL> wastrel: on the other hand, if you install a .deb, it should always warn you whenever any file you have is going to be overwritten, and also, removing the deb will almost always remove the package, save some weird install script (that can be there in tarballs as well!)
[04:16] <wastrel> LjL:  fortunately for me, i can read the makefile :] 
[04:16] <kameron> i'm having a problem playing matroska video files, .mkv, the sound is garbled, but the video is good in mplayer, vlc doesn't do anything. anyone successfully play these files, is there a trick?
[04:16] <LjL> wastrel: but then you can as well open the .deb ;)
[04:16] <dtry> how come X wont start, i tried recovery mode, and when i start X, its just black screen, no cursor, no nothing.
[04:16] <_jason> cedriczg: ``classical errors'' ?
[04:16] <eri1> help please -  on a fresh server install I could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com when doing and apt-get update
[04:17] <dtry> you think its the video card drivers?
[04:17] <cedriczg> _jason, the ones that say couldn' connect to the server
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> ubotu: tell eri1 about us
[04:17] <Installer36> eril http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php
[04:17] <_jason> cedriczg: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[04:17] <cedriczg> _jason, But actually if I make reload I can, but every reload takes long time to download
[04:18] <KakiPukul> Kelsey23:  sorry didn;t follow, anyways, the package name is "pure-ftpd"
[04:18] <jiisu> is it bad if i cant open the xorg.conf file?
[04:18] <KakiPukul> too fast :)
[04:18] <cruiser> any ideas?
[04:18] <Kelsey23> KakiPukul: ok thanks :D
[04:18] <cedriczg> _jason, I used the solution on http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources
[04:18] <dtry> anyone can help?
[04:18] <LjL> wastrel: it's also not really true that you won't know where the files will end up with a .deb, as "dpkg --contents packagename" is made to do just that :)
[04:18] <unmanaged> can anyone help me with xorg config for dual monitors
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: It would require sudo to edit that.
[04:18] <_jason> cedriczg: are you using hoary?
[04:18] <cedriczg> _jason, so now I'm using the same sources.list said there for ubuntu 5.10
[04:18] <cedriczg> _jason, no I'm not
[04:18] <KakiPukul> cruiser, didn;t really know what was happening, anything flushed out the cli?
[04:19] <jiisu> tonyyarusso i just wanna read it
[04:19] <buggzero> GIMP COMPILE PROBLEM :: http://pastebin.com/577845
[04:19] <pendy> hello i would Like to know how to share my printer from my ubuntu linux to a laptop windows xp
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: What happens when you try?
[04:19] <unmanaged> can anyone help me with xorg config for dual monitors, I can't seem to figure it out
[04:19] <cedriczg> _jason, Why I can make it work if I click on reload?
[04:19] <wastrel> LjL:  yes i suppose it's just i have less experience with .debs and am not as familiar with how to fix a broken install with .deb
[04:19] <KakiPukul> Kelsey23: : its on the universe section, so need to update the package list with universe section list
[04:19] <Xoritor> how do i generate the files in /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US/ ?
[04:19] <jiisu> tonyyarusso couldnt get a descriptor file reffering to the console
[04:19] <cruiser> all i get when i try and run the install.sh command is the terms and agreements
[04:19] <_jason> cedriczg: I don't know, how often does it happen?
[04:20] <KakiPukul> Xoritor: : locale-gen
[04:20] <cruiser> nothing installing
[04:20] <Xoritor> thx
[04:20] <KakiPukul> or something like that, tab for locale
[04:20] <LjL> wastrel: well, all i have to say is that i haven't *had* a broken install with a .deb
[04:20] <Kelsey23> KakiPukul: That was the first thing I did :D Im sshed into it right now and it installed fine. Thanks :D
[04:20] <dtry> ????????????????????????????????
[04:20] <cedriczg> _jason, now like one day, The I get it to work, and next day same thing
[04:20] <dtry> how come X wont start, i tried recovery mode, and when i start X, its just black screen, no cursor, no nothing.
[04:20] <Xoritor> hmm
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: Okay, you're right, that shouldn't happen.
[04:20] <_jason> cedriczg: so 2 times?
[04:20] <Xoritor> didnt create anything
[04:20] <Kelsey23> root@kerpafka:/home/kelsey# uptime
[04:20] <Kelsey23>  22:20:35 up 1 day,  6:05,  4 users,  load average: 0.42, 0.34, 0.18
[04:21] <cedriczg> _jason, For example now after doing the sudo apt-get update it work by now
[04:21] <KakiPukul> did thou tab for locale? Xoritor
[04:21] <cedriczg> _jason, no, several times
[04:21] <Xoritor> yea
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: You are sure that the file exists, you're opening it in an appropriate program, and that sort of thing, right?
[04:21] <_jason> cedriczg: well you need to do it every time you modify the /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:21] <dtry> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[04:21] <dtry> how come X wont start, i tried recovery mode, and when i start X, its just black screen, no cursor, no nothing.
[04:21] <cedriczg> _jason, yesterday was like the first time I could make it work
[04:21] <_jason> dtry: please don't do that
[04:21] <LjL> dtry: can you please stop?
[04:21] <KakiPukul> did you run the localegen?
[04:21] <Xoritor> yes
[04:21] <cedriczg> _jason, It stopped working I think after doing an upgrade
[04:22] <KakiPukul> did it flushed out the language file generation?
[04:22] <jiisu> tonyyarusso im trying to open it in the terminal
[04:22] <normal1> what do you guys think of www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:22] <Xoritor> Generating locales...
[04:22] <Xoritor> etc...
[04:22] <normal1> is it okay to use ?
[04:22] <cedriczg> _jason, but I modified the sources.list today, then did the sudo apt-get update
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: With?
[04:22] <jiisu> do i NEED sudo before the open?
[04:22] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know if dapper drake will auto-detect and auto-mount windows partitions or will you still have to run that script?
[04:22] <_jason> normal1: it's great
[04:22] <normal1> cool
[04:22] <normal1> thnkas
[04:22] <KakiPukul> Xorito: then it's done :)
[04:22] <cedriczg> _jason, and after rebooting after some hours the same problem!!!!
[04:22] <jiisu> tonnyyarussa forgive me im a linux noob
[04:23] <jiisu> :-p
[04:23] <Zoo> Mandriva is so cool :-)
[04:23] <coz> Lord_maynoth Ihave no idea
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: You shouldn't just for reading.  What are you using to read it?
[04:23] <Xoritor> open("/usr/share/locale-langpack/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[04:23] <jiisu> tonyyarusso do i need sudo before the open?
[04:23] <KakiPukul> sure, we were once, jiisu :)
[04:23] <LjL> Lord_Maynoth: my breezy does auto-mount windows partitions
[04:23] <cedriczg> _jason, I'm pretty sure sudo apt-get update is like doing the reload I do on the synaptic
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: No.
[04:23] <Xoritor> it did not create the files needed
[04:23] <Zoo> still using.. ubuntu, and now.. back to first system I started on.. Mandriva 2006 PowerPack edition :-)
[04:23] <damian_> if i install the restricted gstreamer plugins totem will play everything yeah?
[04:23] <pendy> how can i share my printer on ubuntu?
[04:23] <_jason> cedriczg: I don't know of anything that would cause that, see if it stops happening with your new /etc/apt/sources.list.  yes apt-get update is like reload in synaptic
[04:23] <cedriczg> _jason, But it is a partial sotution
[04:23] <Xoritor> they are in the GB one
[04:23] <KakiPukul> Xoritor: : try to reinstall the language-en package
[04:23] <jiisu> tonyyarusso i just typed open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:23] <Zoo> hi all
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: Okay, I think we found the problem.
[04:23] <LjL> jiisu: "open" is not a command
[04:24] <cedriczg> _jason, so I don't think this will stop happening
[04:24] <jiisu> rofl
[04:24] <cedriczg> _jason, It is really weird thing
[04:24] <Zoo> well.. you can command it though.. :-)
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Well, actually, it is, but I have no clue what for.  (It's in my path anyway.)
[04:24] <jiisu> is it gonna be fun for me to install xgl or what?
[04:24] <LjL> jiisu: well actually it is, but not by any means the command you need
[04:24] <Jeffrae> how do I see what a drive is currently formatted as?
[04:24] <cedriczg> _jason It is like it doesn't depend on the sourceces.list
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: Try 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:24] <LjL> tonyyarusso: yeah, just checked that :) "man open" redirects to "man openvt"
[04:24] <coz> jiisu xgl /compiz is great
[04:24] <LjL> tonyyarusso: (which "starts a program on a virtual terminal")
[04:24] <KakiPukul> and then run localegen again. well, it should be run by defconf automatically while installing...
[04:25] <Lord_Maynoth> how do you install a windows prog with wine?
[04:25] <damian_> if i install the restricted gstreamer plugins totem will play everything yeah? if not can somoene tell me what packages i need like a codec package that has everything
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> LjL: Ah, good to know.
[04:25] <Zoo> hey Lord_Maynoth
[04:25] <jiisu> oooooook
[04:25] <KakiPukul> Lord_Maynoth: : you don't, you just run Windows program with IT
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> jiisu: You can do that with the editor of your choice, nano, vi, whatever.
[04:25] <Zoo> you should think about.. compiling .. CodeWeavers CrossOver
[04:25] <jiisu> now where in this file does it tell me the driver im using?
[04:25] <pendy> Lord_Maynoth, use: winelauncher file.exe
[04:25] <LjL> jiisu: my humble opinion is that you should *not* install something as experimental, as unstable, and as hard to install as xgl if you really have no clue about how to use a console
[04:25] <Zoo> :-)
[04:25] <buggzero> Can anyone check out my Compiling problem --> http://pastebin.com/577845
[04:25] <cedriczg> _jason, have you any idea any other thing I may be missing?
[04:25] <_jason> cedriczg: if I were you, I would not edit the /etc/apt/sources.list anymore and see if it happens anymore over the next few days with the same consistency, but maybe someone else knows more
[04:25] <LjL> Lord_Maynoth: uh, run the installer? :)
[04:25] <Lord_Maynoth> is crossoveroffice 5 better?
[04:25] <jiisu> LjL, i've reinstalled ubuntu twice already :-p
[04:26] <zx8> I installed ubuntu , but it does not have all of the standard .h files i need , what package do i need to install with apt-get?
[04:26] <cedriczg> _jason, thank you very much
[04:26] <KakiPukul> I really recommend OpenOffice...
[04:26] <Zoo> or vmware :-)
[04:26] <KakiPukul> 2.0 that is
[04:26] <LjL> jiisu: that perhaps is a sign that you should probably learn a little more before messing with the system too much ;)
[04:26] <KakiPukul> zx8: : the *-dev packages
[04:26] <normal1> hey where do i get the public keys so i don't get errors with apt-get ?
[04:26] <LjL> zx8: what would the "standard .h files" be?
[04:26] <Zoo> yes thats right LjL
[04:26] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, no joy
[04:26] <jiisu> LjL im a trial and error kind of guy
[04:27] <ubuntu> thii
[04:27] <zx8> stdio.h curses.h pthread.h
[04:27] <_jason> normal1: the source-o-matic page generates them in comments
[04:27] <pendy> How do i share my printer using ubuntu?
[04:27] <zx8> everything
[04:27] <KakiPukul> and depends on what the hell you;re compiling
[04:27] <g0st> nah, mess with the system to learn...thats best way
[04:27] <normal1> hmm
[04:27] <KakiPukul> zx8: : install build-essential?
[04:27] <dtry> do you have to uninstall X when installing fluxbox?
[04:27] <Zoo> I might get into gentoo.. too
[04:27] <LjL> jiisu: that's not a bad thing in itself, but everything has a limit, and you really sound like your linux knowledge is *extremely* lacking for the task that you're trying to do
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> dtry: Uh, no...  Why?
[04:27] <Lord_Maynoth> how many more years do you guys think it will take wine to get out of beta?
[04:27] <dtry> coz X aint working
[04:27] <h3ax> !tell vicster about sources
[04:28] <LjL> jiisu: i mean, really, you can't just go and try installing xgl when you don't know what "opening a file" means... i'm sorry, but really!
[04:28] <dtry> can the video card be the problem?
[04:28] <Zoo> so far.. into... Windows XP Pro, Mandriva 2006 PowerPack, Fedora Core, DesktopBSD, and ubuntu :-)
[04:28] <Jeffrae> i think it is hard to take wine out of beta
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> dtry: Did it work before?
[04:28] <Zoo> Lord
[04:28] <KakiPukul> buggzero: : you don;t have the MMX library perhaps?
[04:28] <jiisu> LjL i'm a fast learner
[04:28] <Zoo> get into.. build CrossOver by Codeweavers from source
[04:28] <Zoo> I am telling you
[04:28] <LjL> zx8: do install build-essential. for curses.h, you'll also need libncurses5-dev or 6-dev or whatever
[04:28] <Zoo> its built on Wine TEchnology. and is awesome, better than the stand alone wine
[04:29] <pendy> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Im asking for help i ned to know how to share my printer using ubuntu PPPPLLLLLSSSS someone
[04:29] <jiisu> LjL where in the xorg.conf file is the driver listed?
[04:29] <LjL> !patience
[04:29] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:29] <dtry> what's the command to get updates from ubuntu.com?
[04:29] <buggzero> allright, what is the libname ?
[04:29] <jiisu> rofl
[04:29] <Zoo> :-)
[04:29] <zx8> build0essential is installed
[04:29] <jiisu> LjL nevermind
[04:29] <jiisu> LjL found it
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> dtry: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:29] <LjL> jiisu: under section "Device"
[04:29] <KakiPukul> I don't know, try to check out or install all the gimp*dev libraries?
[04:29] <jiisu> LjL ok then it already says ait next to driver
[04:29] <dtry> ic
[04:29] <jiisu> LjL so i'm good to go
[04:29] <zx8> LjL: i am still missing most of the libraries and header files
[04:30] <LjL> jiisu: i'm not sure it *ought* to say ati. isn't that the open sorce driver rather than the binary driver?
[04:30] <Zoo> what you want to do with windows.. read , write, or both?
[04:30] <LjL> zx8: which ones are you missing now?
[04:30] <dtry> too bad, gcc compiler aint included with ubuntu
[04:30] <dtry> ?
[04:30] <Kelsey23> http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5572/dream9ty.png
[04:30] <Zoo> right
[04:30] <Kelsey23> <3
[04:30] <dtry> is it?
[04:30] <swain> anyone have a easy way to install programs? im having a hard time.
[04:30] <LjL> dtry: no, it isn't
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> dtry: install build-essential and its there.
[04:30] <dtry> ic
[04:30] <LjL> !tell swain about shortapt
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> swain: What program?
[04:30] <Zoo> well.. . thats whats great about the open source, it doesn't install everything..
[04:30] <jiisu> LjL well in the forum post it specifically says that it needs to say ati in that spot
[04:30] <swain> realplayer10
[04:30] <LjL> jiisu: ok then
[04:31] <zx8> LjL: curses.h
[04:31] <KakiPukul> well, you don;t need everything
[04:31] <pendy> is there anyone who know how to share my printer using ubuntu pls
[04:31] <Lord_Maynoth> anyone know what kernel dapper drake will use?
[04:31] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, tried reinstalling and regenerating no luck... anymore ideas?
[04:31] <KakiPukul> zx8: : install curses dev library then?
[04:31] <dtry> tonyyarusso, what do you mean install build-essential?
[04:31] <Lord_Maynoth> is it set in stone yet?
[04:31] <trpr42> dtry: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:31] <LjL> zx8: and it's still not there even after install libncurses5-dev?
[04:31] <KakiPukul> Xoritor: : did you setup you locale to English?
[04:31] <Xoritor> yes
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> swain: Probably just follow the directions from their site for that.
[04:31] <Xoritor> and its been working for some time
[04:32] <Zoo> here
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> dtry: That's the package that will give you gcc.
[04:32] <Jeffrae> winn windows be able to read my vfat disk?
[04:32] <dtry> yup its there
[04:32] <Zoo> this will help out alot of you users.. to ubuntu, and even advance IT users..
[04:32] <Zoo> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[04:32] <KakiPukul> hum.. Xoritor: paste the text flushed by localegen... on paste bin
[04:32] <jiisu> LjL Dapper universe repository.... any ideas?
[04:32] <LjL> jiisu: uh?
[04:32] <jiisu> LjL thats a bad sign
[04:32] <KakiPukul> I'll rather wait for Dapper official release
[04:33] <LjL> Zoo: no, not really
[04:33] <KakiPukul> which in next month right?
[04:33] <Zoo> dapper I was impressed. was ready to configure my PCI Wi-Fi Broadcomm :-)
[04:33] <LjL> !ubuntuguide
[04:33] <jiisu> LjL http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=739758
[04:33] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[04:33] <KakiPukul> Zoo: L well, with breezy too
[04:33] <zx8> LjL sorry i was just freaking out
[04:33] <zx8> LjL: but thank you for your help
[04:33] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9573
[04:33] <Zoo> just because has  a site, doesn't matter.. many reverse engineers can do alot with open source as well, that don't even deal with forums
[04:34] <dtry> how come i wont work when i add user and loggin in to it
[04:34] <KakiPukul> Xoritor: : no errors on that... i think all you locales been created fine
[04:34] <dtry> it*
[04:34] <jiisu> LjL any ideas?
[04:34] <Zoo> now that I got dismissed from college, and I am working full time, I can do more with all the open source systems I use.. mandriva 2006 PowerPack, Fedora, SCO UnixWare, ubuntu, debian 3.1 etc
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> How hard would it be (with basically no useful programming knowledge) to create something like yelp (the Gnome Help thingamjig) for the topic of your choice?
[04:34] <Zoo> :-)
[04:34] <LjL> jiisu: yeah
[04:34] <LjL> !tell jiisu about repos
[04:35] <LjL> jiisu: except that you'll have to change those to be for dapper instead of breezy
[04:35] <wastrel> hello
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> Also, has anyone thought of syncing the wiki into a package at the time of upstream version freeze, and making it available in a similar fashion, so that one could use it offline?  It would be a huge file, but for people that have the space, way useful.
[04:35] <purplefeltangel> my sound isn't working! :/ can anyone help?
[04:35] <Zoo> h
[04:35] <KakiPukul> anyway, a good way to fine package without apt-get is browsing http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[04:35] <Zoo> hi*
[04:36] <dtry> configure: error: No curses header-files found, what's this tonyyarusso
[04:36] <LjL> dtry: sudo aptitude install libncurses5-dev
[04:36] <dtry> im just need this gcc so i can install lynx
[04:36] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, is there anyting in your /usr/share/locale-langpack/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/
[04:36] <Zoo> KakiPukul, ..
[04:36] <cedriczg> _jason, thank you very much for that link to autogenerate a source list
[04:36] <KakiPukul> you didn't install libcurses-dev, dtry
[04:36] <Xoritor> i have 2 files linda.mo xmms.mo
[04:36] <dtry> im just dumb man, i think linux is not for me :/
[04:36] <Madpilot> dtry, lynx should be in the Ubuntu repos on it's own
[04:36] <LjL> dtry: uh, what's wrong with "sudo aptitude install lynx"?
[04:36] <dtry> Madpilot, nope
[04:36] <KakiPukul> yes... some .mo file... xorian`
[04:36] <KakiPukul> Xoritor
[04:36] <Zoo> KakiPukul,
[04:36] <LjL> dtry, Madpilot: yes. it's in main
[04:37] <Madpilot> LjL, thought so
[04:37] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, whereas the en_GB has lots of stuff in it
[04:37] <_jason> cedriczg: np, just remember that whenever you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list you must run apt-get update
[04:37] <Madpilot> dtry, in Synaptic, search for lynx, it'll come up
[04:37] <purplefeltangel> my sound isn't working! :/ can anyone help?
[04:37] <dtry> nice
[04:37] <dtry> yeah, its there
[04:37] <dtry> dl'ing the source
[04:37] <braniff> purplefeltangel, are the speakers plugged in???
[04:37] <purplefeltangel> braniff: headphones
[04:38] <LjL> dtry: .... the source?
[04:38] <cedriczg> _jason, I'll have that in mind. Thank you agian
[04:38] <KakiPukul> Xoritor: : you need to set your locale to en_GB, the easiest way is to logout GNOMe, and choose English (UK) during logon
[04:38] <purplefeltangel> braniff: but yes
[04:38] <KakiPukul> and keep it permanent
[04:38] <LjL> dtry: look, what we're trying to tell you is that *you don't need any source*
[04:38] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, why?
[04:38] <Zoo> thanks.. :)
[04:38] <braniff> purplefeltangel, are the headphones in your ears correctly ?? hehe
[04:38] <LjL> dtry: just type "sudo aptitude install lynx" and you'll have it installed
[04:38] <Zoo> but wanted to show you all something..
[04:38] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, en_US should work just fine
[04:38] <Zoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_software_packages   :-)
[04:38] <tman_ubuntu> Can someone tell me how to get Beagle to search for just file extensions?
[04:38] <pendy> OK i looked at the link you gave and im unable to find how to share my printer pls someone answer me
[04:38] <KakiPukul> you want to change locale right?
[04:38] <purplefeltangel> braniff: yes -_-
[04:38] <LjL> dtry: or use synaptic to install it, which is just as good, whichever you prefer
[04:38] <rukk> hey guys, I was offline for about 2 weeks, I
[04:38] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, no i want to have en_US work
[04:38] <riddlebox> does anyone know of an app that will create a photo id, id badge?
[04:39] <KakiPukul> well it should work? what's the problem anyways?
[04:39] <braniff> purplefeltangel, you might check the mixer settings
[04:39] <rukk> hey guys, I was offline for about 2 weeks, I'm running dapper drake, and when I fire up synaptic now, all of my universe, ,multiverse and backports repos are broken..
[04:39] <rukk> did something change?
[04:39] <rukk> I
[04:39] <dtry> its installed
[04:39] <Zoo> I sure love my flubox.. :-)
[04:39] <wastrel> riddlebox:  i think gimp is probably your best choice for forging identification
[04:39] <dtry> i just tried google
[04:39] <rukk> I'm not seeing anything in the forums
[04:39] <Installer36> Purple did you check the Volume control to make sure the speakers are not muted
[04:39] <Madpilot> rukk, which mirror are you using?
[04:39] <tman_ubuntu> I need help with beagle please.
[04:39] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, i think i found the problem
[04:39] <riddlebox> wastrel, not forging, I want to create something for our techs, an id badge like to show they work for the company
[04:40] <rukk> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse restricted main
[04:40] <KakiPukul> what would that be? xorian`
[04:40] <Installer36> zoo how do youi get the Home file on  the desktop in Fluxbox
[04:40] <KakiPukul> Xoritor: , damn tab
[04:40] <ktelep> can someone help me get the pygame dev stuff installed?   I for some reason just can't get apt-get to install the package
[04:40] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, i ran gnome-language-selector and it said that languages are not fully installed... downloading files
[04:40] <Madpilot> rukk, that should be working, the main archives are fine AFAIK
[04:40] <Zoo> :-)
[04:40] <rukk> weird..
[04:40] <wastrel> riddlebox:  when i worked for an ISP i scanned my id badge with sane and used gimp to replace my photo with a potted plant - nobody ever noticed ;] 
[04:40] <Zoo> on mandriva.. I use.. blackbox :-)
[04:40] <rukk> the basic 4800~ packages are fine
[04:40] <riddlebox> wastrel, nice
[04:41] <dtry> any tutorials for this ubuntu, gotta learn this stuff
[04:41] <KakiPukul> so, you language package was not throughly installed, Xoritor?
[04:41] <damian_> how do i get totem playing wma and other like files
[04:41] <rukk> its just that when I went offline, there were like 16800~
[04:41] <dtry> been using windows since win95 era
[04:41] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, i guess not
[04:41] <ktelep> apt-get install python-pygame and apt-get install python2.4-pygame dont' seem to find packages
[04:41] <KakiPukul> ok, go on install the language pack... Xoritor
[04:41] <Installer36>   ZooMy home Folder to show on flux box
[04:41] <Madpilot> rukk, compare your sources.list to this one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[04:41] <Xoritor> KakiPukul, no idea how that changed...
[04:41] <Xoritor> it WAS installed and working fine
[04:41] <rukk> k
[04:41] <rukk> thanks
[04:41] <Xoritor> thx
[04:41] <Zoo> plus.. me likes building fluxbox and blackbox from source :-)
[04:41] <KakiPukul> Neither do I, Xoritor
[04:42] <wastrel> ktelep:  you probably need to enable universe/multiverse
[04:42] <wastrel> ubotu:  tell ktelep about universe
[04:42] <Zoo> you want it on the flubox.. without importing etc
[04:42] <Zoo> ?
[04:42] <KakiPukul> I love how ubuntu describe the packages "universe"
[04:42] <Zoo> you have to set parameters
[04:42] <eri1> iinstaller36 thnx that solved the problem
[04:42] <damian_> how do i get totem playing wma and other like files
[04:42] <damian_> how do i get totem playing wma and other like files
[04:43] <KakiPukul> the debian equivalent is "contrib" right?
[04:43] <Installer36> your welcome
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> 1WMA
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> !wma
[04:43] <skiingsean> damian there's a windows codec pack for linux somewhere out there too
[04:43] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:43] <KakiPukul> w32codec.... damian_
[04:43] <pei_world> /usr/mipsel-linux/bin/ld: crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[04:43] <KakiPukul> install w32codec, anyways it is in the universe section
[04:44] <Zoo> hey
[04:44] <pei_world> anyone come arcoss this problem?
[04:44] <KakiPukul> mipsel?
[04:44] <damian_> kakipukl have it installed any ideas?
[04:44] <fatbrain> Hello, when I install the latest drivers from nvidia hopepage (for my nvidia GPU) do I have to remove nvidia-glx prior to installation?
[04:44] <Zoo> hey Installer36
[04:44] <pei_world> yes, install cross compiler for mipsel CPU
[04:44] <damian_> kakipaul totem uses gstreamer plugins
[04:44] <KakiPukul> btw... I hate totem, i prefer vlc or xine
[04:44] <coz> fatbrain I believe so
[04:44] <Zoo> you all would laugh at what I was watching
[04:44] <Installer36> Not sure what you mean by set the parameters
[04:44] <fatbrain> coz: ok :)
[04:44] <KakiPukul> you missed on library...
[04:44] <trpr42> fatbrain: i think so too.. lots of problems later on if you don't
[04:45] <purplefeltangel> what does PCM Out Path & Mute mean?
[04:45] <zx8> Does anyone know what package contains qapplication.h??
[04:45] <fatbrain> yes
[04:45] <Zoo> too bad. they should of used.. TEchSmith and narrated it.. using vmware etc. or some open source vid capture
[04:45] <KakiPukul> damian_: : then isntall the gstreamer plugin that support wma i don't know which one
[04:45] <fatbrain> trpr42: thanks
[04:45] <KakiPukul> zx8: qt-dev
[04:45] <Zoo> HOweve,r I use TechSmith. to make high quality real time presentations
[04:45] <_jason> !find qapplication.h
[04:45] <zx8> thanks!
[04:45] <rukk> Madpilot, I copied and pasted in that to my sources.list, and when I update I get:
[04:45] <KakiPukul> or something like that...
[04:45] <rukk> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[04:45] <pei_world> how do I configure it then, I can locate it from /usr/lib
[04:45] <pei_world> but I have no Idea where to set the correct option
[04:45] <Madpilot> rukk, hmm, ask on #ubuntu+1, that's the Dapper channel
[04:45] <fatbrain> coz, trpr42: anything else I should consider before installing the nvidia.com driver?
[04:45] <KakiPukul> purplefeltangel: :jus worry about the PCM and Master slider....
[04:45] <rukk> ok, thanks
[04:46] <purplefeltangel> kakipukul: ok thank you
[04:46] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me figure out why my sound isnt working? :/
[04:46] <jasz> hello all
[04:46] <coz> fatbrain get rid of nvidia-settings also
[04:46] <Zoo> brb
[04:46] <cedriczg> ..
[04:46] <Madpilot> rukk, the Breezy archives are fine - I just tried a reload in Synaptic...
[04:46] <jasz> anyone here has been able to succesfully compile/install skippy?
[04:46] <coz> fatbrain that should be about it then reboot
[04:46] <KakiPukul> skippy? game?
[04:46] <fatbrain> coz: not installed :) well, wish me luck
[04:47] <coz> real good lick guy
[04:47] <coz> luck
[04:47] <jasz> uh oh
[04:47] <KakiPukul> lick :)
[04:47] <trpr42> fatbrain: uhm.. after i installed it on my system, the nifty boot splash / framebuffer console would corrupt when i switched between them with ctrl+alt+f1, etc.. i solved it by disabling the splash in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[04:47] <tman_ubuntu> Come on people.  Beagle help here.  Simple question, I promise.
[04:47] <zx8> ubuntu is a pretty solid distro i am starting to like it a lot
[04:47] <Zoo> these guys were hilarrious
[04:47] <Zoo> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=
[04:47] <KakiPukul> well, I am starting to like Ubuntu...
[04:47] <KakiPukul> it's a debian but much less complex :)
[04:47] <cedriczg> How do I edit sounds in this chat so I hear a sound whn someon calls my nick?
[04:47] <Kelsey23> If Debian wasn't so out of date I would use Debain
[04:47] <Zoo> their hillarious
[04:48] <Zoo> lol
[04:48] <Zoo> Kelsey23,
[04:48] <Madpilot> cedriczg, which IRC client are you using?
[04:48] <Zoo> I use debian as well
[04:48] <KakiPukul> cedriczg: : your on what chat client?
[04:48] <cedriczg> Xchat now
[04:48] <Kelsey23> right now I am diappointed to be using Windows though
[04:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[04:48] <KakiPukul> i think you can set it up on gnome sound control panel...
[04:48] <Zoo> I also use.. sco unixware, fedora core, and mandriva, and desktopbsd
[04:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have some troubles with matlab
[04:48] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me figure out why my sound isnt working? :/
[04:48] <Zoo> ?
[04:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sometimes it use too much memory
[04:48] <Zoo> I use windows as well
[04:48] <braniff> hire someone to watch the chatroom and yell at you when someone types your name
[04:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and the system goes in swapping
[04:48] <cedriczg> I'll try that
[04:49] <KakiPukul> purplefeltangel: : try to ls -l /dev/dsp
[04:49] <damian_> will totem-xine play wma plugins? does it use the same codecs as mplayer
[04:49] <KakiPukul> is it there?
[04:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> however after few minutes is is killed
[04:49] <Madpilot> cedriczg, in XChat, go Settings -> Prefs, then Chatting->General and look at the Alerts section
[04:49] <KakiPukul> damian_: : that you need to figure out yourself, i use and and vlc to play non-free formats
[04:49] <purplefeltangel> kakipukul: crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2006-02-28 16:13 /dev/dsp
[04:50] <cedriczg> Madpilot, thanx
[04:50] <Madpilot> np
[04:50] <KakiPukul> yes... purplefeltangel: then you have a working sound card
[04:50] <cedriczg> Madpilot, tell me something to try ;)
[04:50] <purplefeltangel> kakipukul: well it's worked before. it's just not working now.
[04:50] <Zoo> lmao @ them
[04:50] <Zoo> you all see that site
[04:50] <KakiPukul> all you nned it to configure the PCM and MAster volume, you can use the  GNOME volume cntrol now
[04:50] <Zoo> lol
[04:50] <Zoo> I already know how to manage systems better than them lmao
[04:51] <zx8> Does anyone know what package contains xpm.h??
[04:51] <ithiel> when I try to apt-get update, it errors out and says that the timestamp is too far in the future. my system time is correct, and I am using dapper, someone please help?
[04:51] <KakiPukul> libxpm-dev?
[04:51] <KakiPukul> oh wait that GTK+ library
[04:52] <KakiPukul> zx8: you can search for that at Ubuntu paackge site...
[04:52] <purplefeltangel> kakipukul: what?
[04:52] <pbransford> Anyone have experience with Ethereal?
[04:52] <zx8> KakiPukul : whats the url?
[04:53] <KakiPukul> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ << every newcomer should take note of this url
[04:53] <Zoo> you all see that
[04:53] <Zoo> KakiPukul, .. their hillarious
[04:53] <KakiPukul> you can checkout filenames, package...
[04:53] <pbransford> basically i want to filter capture as if it was display filter "wlan.bssid == XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX". (only packets belonging to AP with mac XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX)
[04:53] <Zoo> you visit it yet?
[04:54] <cedriczg> Well I found that in Xchat I have also to set the beep sound
[04:54] <KakiPukul> I use it the first time I install Ubuntu...
[04:54] <Installer36> Purple did you check to make sure nothing is muted on you volume contrl ctrl +o
[04:54] <cedriczg> It hasn't any sound by default
[04:54] <KakiPukul> very useful... thanks Niggers that made ubuntu :)
[04:55] <zx8> KakiPukul : Thats bad-ass , now if only i could do that with apt-cache
[04:55] <KakiPukul> anyways zx8: the package that ahs xpm.h is libxpm-dev
[04:55] <Madpilot> cedriczg, ?
[04:55] <KakiPukul> well, I was noob once... I get along adn adrift with ubuntu
[04:55] <KakiPukul> *has*
[04:55] <Zoo> hey KakiPukul
[04:55] <cedriczg> Madpilot, to hear the beep whne someone sais my name
[04:56] <Madpilot> cedriczg, got a beep now?
[04:56] <cedriczg> Madpilot, YES!
[04:56] <Madpilot> good
[04:56] <zx8> i am trying to compile kiax
[04:56] <cedriczg> Madpilot, tahnx
[04:56] <zx8> i wish it had a good configurator
[04:56] <Zoo> KakiPukul,
[04:56] <Zoo> are you ignoring me?
[04:56] <KakiPukul> yes, Zoo?
[04:57] <Zoo> you got to see these guys lol
[04:57] <fatbrain> Hello, again, what kenrel-header package should I get for my 2.6.15-16-386 kernel?
[04:57] <KakiPukul> say something... just don't call my name, ask
[04:57] <Zoo> -> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=
[04:57] <Zoo> :P
[04:57] <Zoo> me, I am going use.. TechSmith Camtasia.. my latest :-)
[04:57] <purplefeltangel> can someone help me figure out why my sound isnt working? :/
[04:57] <El-Cid> what are some other good channels on IRC ?
[04:57] <KakiPukul> geek vid on ubuntu/windows duel boot?
[04:58] <fatbrain> purplefeltangel: are you using S/P-DIF for audio output?
[04:58] <dtry_> what's the command to see disk space again?
[04:58] <KakiPukul> alot... El-Cid just type /list
[04:58] <dtry_> sorry bout the newb queations
[04:58] <purplefeltangel> fatbrain: i don't know what that is
[04:58] <KakiPukul> dtry_: : df
[04:58] <dtry_> dang
[04:58] <fatbrain> purplefeltangel: it's when you'r using the coaxial output from your sound-card.
[04:58] <random0ne> is there any way to dyanmically populate the forwarders option of bind9 with values of resolv.conf?
[04:58] <Kelsey23> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mysterysolved/corp/default.mspx
[04:58] <purplefeltangel> fatbrain: what's coaxial mean? :|
[04:58] <KakiPukul> Zoo, by anychance you're on that vid?
[04:58] <Zoo> lol
[04:58] <Zoo> no lol
[04:59] <fatbrain> purplefeltangel: it's a type of connector/cable.
[04:59] <eri1> how do I set up ssh client?
[04:59] <KakiPukul> Kelsey23: : the TCO ad again?
[04:59] <purplefeltangel> fatbrain: i really don't know.
[04:59] <Zoo> I would of done a better job
[04:59] <fatbrain> purplefeltangel: are you using the green output from your soundcard?
[04:59] <Kelsey23> KakiPukul: No, look, a free USB drive from Bill!
[04:59] <_jason> eri1: install openssh-client
[04:59] <purplefeltangel> fatbrain: green output? :/
[04:59] <Zoo> I am going use TechSmith .. to show people how to install operating systems.. multiple platforms. linux, unix, windows.. with TEchSmith Camtasia  Studio
[04:59] <KakiPukul> hehe
[04:59] <Myrth`> is it possible to have both php4 and php5 installed?
[05:00] <KakiPukul> since When Mr. Bill give out free USB flash disk?
[05:00] <fatbrain> purplefeltangel: the color of the audio-output on your soundcard should have a green color (the ring)
[05:00] <Zoo> I am going.. order.. ubuntu apparel :-)
[05:00] <Zoo> and send some programmers.. some money :)
[05:00] <purplefeltangel> fatbrain: what do you mean the colour of the audio-output? like where the thing plugs into my computer?
[05:00] <Zoo> even though.. I'm a reverse engineer. .etc.. developer.. :)
[05:00] <Installer36> Eril sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:00] <KakiPukul> I don't have any creativity on creating learning video
[05:00] <Myrth`> ... i mean using standard ubuntu install procedures..
[05:00] <Zoo> just going.. send for . apparel :)
[05:01] <KakiPukul> oh! the OEM license USB disk!
[05:01] <KakiPukul> haha for free, well, I am going to get mine,,,
[05:01] <Kelsey23> I signed up for mine!
[05:01] <Installer36> Purple Yes
[05:01] <fatbrain> purplefeltangel: yes
[05:01] <purplefeltangel> fatbrain: yes, it's green. i think
[05:02] <KakiPukul> well, I don't have to hate Microsoft... I just use the best of any OS/software
[05:02] <Zoo> KakiPukul,
[05:02] <fatbrain> purplefeltangel: then I don't know how to solve it :/ you could try run the alsamixer too see if anything is muted.
[05:02] <Zoo> know of the best stuff.. to want to build for essential?
[05:02] <KakiPukul> btw it;s free, yeah Zoo, what;s up?
[05:02] <KakiPukul> to want to build for essential?
[05:02] <purplefeltangel> fatbrain: the only thing thats muted is the microphone
[05:02] <_trick> I want to copy all the files with authentification info in them: i've got /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group, /etc/gshadow, /etc/sudoers, and /etc/login.access. Is that everything?
[05:02] <KakiPukul> you mean build-essential?
[05:03] <salah> Hi . Which player is best for Mp3
[05:03] <KakiPukul> XMMS!
[05:03] <KakiPukul> IMHO
[05:03] <Madpilot> salah, Rhythymbox or Muine
[05:03] <_trick> salah, whatever you want. I prefer rhythmbox
[05:03] <fatbrain> purplefeltangel: ok
[05:03] <salah> where I can get it?
[05:03] <_trick> you just need to install the mp3 codecs
[05:03] <Zoo> nah
[05:04] <Zoo> just install.. xmms
[05:04] <KakiPukul> you can even play in cli usig mpg123
[05:04] <Installer36> Purple Are all the slides up
[05:04] <KakiPukul> is mpg123 available for ubuntu, sure in universe section hehe
[05:04] <purplefeltangel> installer36: what?
[05:04] <farous> ok any one know of a good exam generation package for latex or lyx ?
[05:04] <Zoo> KakiPukul,
[05:04] <Zoo> these are good right? you never answer anything.. arghh
[05:04] <Installer36> On the Volume control are the arrows slid up
[05:05] <KakiPukul> what are good...
[05:05] <salah> Mine one is not working
[05:05] <KakiPukul> don't pause on my nick, just ask...
[05:05] <Zoo>    for build essential..   build-essential    sudo apt-get install manpages-dev autoconf automake libtool
[05:05] <farous> slah you are still here from yesterday :)
[05:05] <salah> imean rhythmbox
[05:05] <KakiPukul> yeah...
[05:05] <Zoo> sudo apt-get install flex bison gcc-doc g++
[05:05] <Zoo> okay
[05:05] <Zoo> thats all I'm asking :-)
[05:05] <Zoo> anything else, I might like ?
[05:05] <KakiPukul> well, you just need to state build-essential, if you just need the basic C/C++ compilers
[05:06] <Zoo> I am seeing what i Like better.. Mandriva or ubuntu
[05:06] <_trick> salah: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:06] <purplefeltangel> installer36: yes. -_-
[05:06] <KakiPukul> well, i prefer Java, and some pyhton libs
[05:06] <Zoo> my Mandriva system.. is awesome... compared in graphics. it has the Xorg 3d acceleration
[05:06] <Zoo> however, I use both, and do for IT engineering
[05:06] <farous> mm either i am here at the wrong time or the room is dead
[05:06] <Zoo> k
[05:06] <farous> sorry wrong channel
[05:06] <Installer36> Purple Headphones work on other devices
[05:06] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:07] <purplefeltangel> installer36: pardon?
[05:07] <KakiPukul> I use fglrx, for TV and games :)
[05:07] <fatbrain> How do I unpack a .bz2?
[05:07] <Zoo> hee
[05:07] <Zoo> thats cool
[05:07] <Zoo> do I need.. tv card for laptop? or desktop?
[05:07] <KakiPukul> tar xfvj <file name>
[05:07] <Madpilot> salah, Rhythymbox is installed by default in - Applications menu -> Sound & Video -> Rhythymbox
[05:07] <Installer36> Another Player like Ipod or CD Player Portable
[05:07] <KakiPukul> Zoo: : any video card that has TV output, prefeably from Ati or Nvidia
[05:07] <purplefeltangel> installer36: oh. yes. and the speakers aren't producing sound either.
[05:07] <scelestus> anyone get an intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG to work in breezy?
[05:08] <Zoo> ah.. cool
[05:08] <bimberi> fatbrain: bunzip2 (or KakiPukul's answer if its .tar.bz2)
[05:08] <macfreak> hello
[05:08] <Zoo> I have an nvidia GeForce FX 5200 in my Workstation , 128 DDR but hey. its something..
[05:08] <fatbrain> bimberi: ok, thanks
[05:08] <farous> scelestus: working here out of the box
[05:08] <Zoo> went from Intel P1 166 to AMD Athlon XP 2600, I'm getting nice.. LCD 19" LIquid Crystal or. .maybe just View Sonic 19" or 21"
[05:09] <wastrel> scelestus:  that's mine - working out of the box
[05:09] <Zoo> I have cable coming into my room..
[05:09] <scelestus> wastrel: how did you set it up?
[05:09] <Zoo> live in nice apartment
[05:09] <wastrel> scelestus:  it Just Works - i configured it with system > administration > networking
[05:10] <scelestus> I tried but it doesnt get anything in firefox
[05:10] <_trick> can anyone answer my question?
[05:10] <Installer36> Purple Try sudo alsamixer  in the terminal
[05:10] <cedriczg> Madpilot, Are you there?
[05:11] <Madpilot> cedriczg, yes
[05:11] <FlannelKing> is there any way to have lynx remember my SSL certificate choices? (so I don't have to 'y' each page of a https site)
[05:11] <Zoo> well.. guess I am going build from soure packages..
[05:11] <Zoo> talk to you all later.. :-)
[05:11] <cedriczg> Madpilot, because I trtied to ask you sometinh on a separate window
[05:12] <Madpilot> cedriczg, are you registered on Freenode?
[05:12] <purplefeltangel> installer36: okay, now what
[05:12] <scelestus> it's in a toshiba m35
[05:12] <cedriczg> Madpilot, Oh it may be taht
[05:12] <Organs> So who wants to help me install Ubuntu to a multi-OS computer?  I wanna replace my current linux with Ubuntu.
[05:12] <cedriczg> Madpilot, I'll do it
[05:12] <Madpilot> !tell cedriczg about register
[05:12] <Zoo> can't wait.. I'm going build codeweavers crossover and cedega. :-)
[05:13] <bad_iNFO> hello, my question is, i recently installed KDE, when i open up any GUI configuration things the window that comes up is bigger then my desktop, so i can't click the button for enabling administration mode
[05:13] <Kelsey23> theres no point in regisering on Freenode...there are so many places that are better
[05:13] <bad_iNFO> anyone help?
[05:13] <Madpilot> cedriczg, if you're unregistered you can recieve but not send msgs
[05:13] <cedriczg> Madpilot, ok
[05:13] <cedriczg> Madpilot, I'll register
[05:13] <Madpilot> Kelsey23, but only one place with #ubuntu :)
[05:13] <dtry_> configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers.
[05:13] <Zoo> me,, I just can't use 1 dang linux or unix lol
[05:13] <AngryElf> hey all, if i wanted to compile my own kernel which packages do i need to install first?
[05:13] <wastrel> bad_iNFO:  ctrl-click the window to drag it, then resize
[05:13] <dtry_> where do i find X win headers?
[05:13] <Kelsey23> Thank god there is only one #ubuntu
[05:13] <IdleOne> bad_iNFO:  hit alt and left click on the window to move it
[05:13] <wastrel> bad_iNFO:  sry alt-click
[05:14] <dtry_> dang
[05:14] <Zoo> KakiPukul,
[05:14] <dtry_> Zoo
[05:14] <dtry_> dont you have fluxbox running?
[05:14] <bad_iNFO> ok ty that actually worked
[05:14] <bad_iNFO> is there any way to make the windows open up to the right size?
[05:14] <scelestus> wastrel: how do you change the timeout on that intel card?
[05:15] <Installer36> You may have to reinstall the sound drivers
[05:15] <Zoo> yes?
[05:15] <Zoo> oh.. sometimes yes
[05:15] <Zoo> and on different open source systems
[05:15] <purplefeltangel> installer36: and how do i do *that*? :/
[05:15] <Zoo> I busy right now dtry_
[05:15] <farous> scelestus: did you check it by pinging a server for example
[05:15] <scelestus> yes
[05:15] <IdleOne> bad_iNFO:  i dont know kde but there must be a way try #kubuntu for kde help :0
[05:15] <farous> scelestus: and it is still not working
[05:15] <Installer36> try using Synaptic to re-install the ALSA drivers
[05:15] <bad_iNFO> ty
[05:16] <scelestus> farous:  correct
[05:16] <Installer36> dont delete them check mark for reinstall
[05:16] <purplefeltangel> installer36: which packages exactly?
[05:16] <Zoo> what!
[05:16] <farous> scelestus: on my machine turned out that i can use the external bottons to boot it or not check that
[05:16] <scelestus> farous: it may be timing out getting an IP from my router...my router can take 30 secs
[05:17] <farous> scelestus: then check your config. I do not know if configured it or not
[05:17] <wastrel> scelestus:  i don't know - haven't had to do that
[05:17] <Myrth`> i have installed mysql-server-4.1 and php4-mysql - phpinfo says that mysql client API is 4.0.24 - is there any problem with that?
[05:18] <Installer36> Open Synaptic and do search for Alsa and see what are installed then check them for reinstall
[05:18] <farous> scelestus: that is too long by the way. sorry do not know how to set the timeout though
[05:18] <scelestus> farous: I am trying to see if I can change it in the router
[05:19] <purplefeltangel> installer36: ok will i need to restart myc omputer or anything?
[05:19] <Installer36> shouldnt
[05:19] <dtry_> i added as a user so he can connect to me, but how come he cant connect using putty?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> dtry_,  you do have ssh running?
[05:19] <cedriczg>  /msg nickserv help registe
[05:20] <El-Cid> O.O
[05:20] <Zoo> :-)
[05:20] <dtry_> i dont think so
[05:20] <farous> scelestus: before that just general tips. Disable the ethernet if it is enabled. Use dhcp. sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1
[05:20] <dtry_> i just installed ubuntu
[05:20] <dtry_> and im pretty new to it
[05:20] <bimberi> dtry_: have you installed the ssh server (sudo aptitide install ssh)?
[05:20] <Zoo> would be..
[05:20] <dtry_> havent yet
[05:20] <dtry_> where can i find these sudo stuff?
[05:20] <Zoo> -> /msg nickserv help register
[05:20] <purplefeltangel> AGH!
[05:20] <Zoo> ***
[05:20] <scelestus> farous: thanks ill try that
[05:20] <Zoo> correct spelling :-)
[05:20] <bimberi> !sudo
[05:20] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:20] <dtry_> foreal
[05:21] <purplefeltangel> installer36: when i go to Synaptic it says, "the following problems were found on your system: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9574"
[05:21] <dtry_> k
[05:22] <Zoo> you can add root user..
[05:22] <Zoo> to any open source system
[05:22] <dtry_> i think im starting to link linux
[05:22] <dtry_> :D
[05:22] <dtry_> i used to hate to death *nix
[05:22] <dtry_> foreal
[05:22] <Zoo> wait til you ever think about unix
[05:22] <Zoo> then you
[05:22] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: hit the reload button
[05:22] <dtry_> like*
[05:22] <Zoo> will see the true speed... and performance and security
[05:22] <h3ax> are there any GUI control/setup stuff for Apache and Mysql
[05:22] <h3ax> ?
[05:22] <dtry_> but i still cant load X server though
[05:23] <Zoo> but its.. not so user friendly.. etc... but .. DesktopBSD and PC BSD , are doing their best to make it that way
[05:23] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: reload button? :S
[05:23] <dtry_> but ill mess with that later
[05:23] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: in synaptic (top left)
[05:23] <Zoo> what you mean
[05:23] <Qiang> question: what package does apt-file belong to?
[05:23] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: ah thx
[05:23] <_jason> Qiang: apt-file
[05:23] <dtry_> i cant get X window system to work
[05:23] <bimberi> Qiang: apt-file (would you believe :) )
[05:24] <Zoo> I tink I am going.. install ubuntu on my Workstation.. alone with Mandriva
[05:24] <Zoo> along*
[05:24] <Qiang> _jason: E: Couldn't find package apt-file
[05:24] <Xenguy> !tell Qiang about repos
[05:24] <geargolem> How can I edit mouse shortcuts  //I know about the keyboard shortcut editor but I don't find anything about the mouse.
[05:24] <h3ax> nothing ?
[05:25] <bimberi> Qiang: enable the universe repository (see the link ubotu sent you)
[05:25] <Qiang> er. must be it. sorry for the dumb question.
[05:25] <purplefeltangel> installer36: i reinstalled the packages . . . still no sound
[05:25] <bimberi> Qiang: np, not dumb at all - this has caught many :)
[05:26] <farous> purplefeltangel: do you have any sond at all and what sound server you selected
[05:26] <purplefeltangel> farous: no sound at all and i don't know what sound server means
[05:26] <delmar> right'o.. so ive downloaded the latest ubuntu and started to re-install with that... now im prompted with the option of using LVM or not.... is LVM ok/wise to use or best not to ? its just a single disk at this stage.. i'm going to add a bunch of disk afterwards and thought id use LVM on that...
[05:26] <bimberi> dtry_: more info needed. what's wrong with X?
[05:26] <kennethd> is there a way to get gdm to work with keychain?
[05:26] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: i refreshed synaptic and it gave me the same thing
[05:27] <farous> purplefeltangel: ok system>preferences>multimedia selector, choose alsa if does not work choose esd
[05:27] <Mantice> Im trying to run ET (Enemy Territory) in 32 bit mode on my AMD64 could any one help me?
[05:27] <dtry_> what would be the cmd to add another root or atleast admin
[05:27] <dtry_> i tried useradd
[05:27] <mentesuprema> What is a good cd ripper? CDDA to MP3
[05:27] <dtry_> but i dont know how to add flags and stuff
[05:27] <farous> purplefeltangel: to test try this command in a terminal cat /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav > /dev/dsp
[05:28] <Xenguy> !lvm
[05:28] <ubotu> [lvm]  (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> mentesuprema,   i like 'grip'
[05:28] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[05:28] <farous> purplefeltangel: if you choose alsa as sound server type aplay /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav > /dev/dsp
[05:28] <mentesuprema> Thanks Dr
[05:28] <purplefeltangel> farous: cat: usr/share/sounds/bell.wav: No such file or directory
[05:28] <farous> purplefeltangel: if you choose alsa as sound server type aplay /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav sorry without directing to the /dev/dsp
[05:29] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: sources.list?
[05:29] <bimberi> dtry_: to give another user sudo access they need to be a member of the 'admin' group - 'adduser <username> admin'
[05:29] <farous> purplefeltangel: /usr/share copy and paste it
[05:29] <Zoo> you pretty much know. .if you need a dependency from a package, and thats whats cool. because then you can jus add it.. :)
[05:29] <Zoo> like drivers.. :)
[05:29] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      - cut and paste the contents to the pastebin
[05:29] <purplefeltangel> farous: cat: /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav: No such file or directory
[05:29] <Zoo> pretty much... telling linux or unix.. to be nice.. and do your stuff and chores :)
[05:30] <mentesuprema> have anyone used Scilab?
[05:30] <bad_iNFO> does KDE have anyting similar to gdesklet's? of can it use it also?
[05:30] <farous> purplefeltangel: strange what ver of ubuntu are you using for i just checked it on my system before sending you the link. Anyway you can use any sound file you have
[05:30] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9575
[05:30] <purplefeltangel> farous: breezy. hold on a sec
[05:31] <dtry_> but Zoo
[05:31] <dtry_> you said i can add another admin user right
[05:31] <purplefeltangel> farous: still not working
[05:31] <dtry_> oh nvm
[05:31] <Zoo> see ya
[05:31] <farous_away> purplefeltangel: will be back in a while
[05:31] <Zoo> got source packages to install :-)
[05:31] <dtry_> bimberi, answered me
[05:32] <purplefeltangel> k
[05:32] <wastrel> ooh scilab what's that?
[05:32] <mentesuprema> Dr_Willis does grip rips in mp3 formats?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> mentesuprema,  it support several dozen differnet encoders so yes it can.
[05:33] <cedriczg> I have an issue on how to access a partition of winXP without using a su
[05:34] <cedriczg> Is that possible?
[05:34] <endemic> Is there a way to mount SMB shares with the live CD?
[05:34] <cedriczg> I have always to be super user to access my XP partition
[05:34] <salah> My rythmbox is not supporting mp3 songs
[05:34] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: ok, lines 4 and 18 are covered by line 36 so you can comment them out (with a '#')
[05:34] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: uhh ok hold on
[05:34] <farous_away> purplefeltangel: ok let us see if you have the sound device type ls /dev/dsp
[05:35] <salah> I m followin from wiki but i stuck in "  " here msg is 0% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (206.75.218.53)] 
[05:35] <_trick> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:35] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: also, it's not good to leave breezy-backports enabled (lines 27 & 28) so comment them out too
[05:35] <cedriczg> _trick, that was an answer for me?
[05:35] <purplefeltangel> farous: wait two seconds let me do what bimberi told me
[05:35] <vbgunz> !dual monitor
[05:35] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vbgunz
[05:35] <_trick> no, it was for salah, do you have a working internet connection
[05:35] <scelestus> bimberi: why is it bad to leave those open?
[05:36] <vbgunz> how do I get support for dual monitors?
[05:36] <cedriczg> _trick, why is that?
[05:36] <frank23> salah: _trick there is a problem with the canadian mirrors right now
[05:36] <bimberi> purplefeltangel, scelestus: they're fine for installs but it's best to disable them when (dist-)upgrading
[05:36] <salah> yah
[05:36] <farous> vbgunz: search on the wiki for dual dispaly and xinerama
[05:36] <salah> ok
[05:36] <salah> Thanks
[05:36] <vbgunz> farous: ok
[05:36] <farous> vbgunz: what card do you have. Graphic card i mean
[05:36] <cedriczg> _jason, Can you help me with that?
[05:36] <_trick> cedriczg: that was for salah, too, sorry
[05:36] <bimberi> purplefeltangel, scelestus: although since backports became official the risks have diminished :)
[05:37] <vbgunz> farous: gfx 5600
[05:37] <frank23> salah: I can't get package lists from them either
[05:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell cedriczg about ntfs
[05:37] <cedriczg> _trick, ok lol
[05:37] <vbgunz> it has regular video out and dvi output
[05:37] <farous> vbgunz: sory have no exp with that
[05:37] <_jason> cedriczg: see the table in the middle of the page of the link ubotu sent you
[05:37] <Madpilot> salah, the Canadian archive is messed up - edit your sources to use the regular archive
[05:37] <salah> i stop for today
[05:37] <Installer36> Purple try this sight   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=337513
[05:37] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: uhh to comment out do i use one # or two?
[05:37] <cedriczg> _jason, I know I can't edit in ntfs
[05:37] <salah> how can I do that?
[05:37] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: ooh, look at that post by Madpilot (above)
[05:37] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: one is enough
[05:38] <purplefeltangel> bimberi: oh. it was working before though. :/ how do i use the regular archive?
[05:38] <farous> Madpilot: thanks for the tip will do that too ;)
[05:38] <Madpilot> purplefeltangel, yeah, if you're using the Canadian archives, don't... just remove the ca. from the URL
[05:38] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: suggest removing "ca." whereever it appears
[05:38] <_jason> cedriczg: yep, just look at the table, you need to mount with the proper options
[05:38] <cedriczg> thanxs I'll read out
[05:38] <Madpilot> !repos
[05:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:38] <Madpilot> use the 2nd URL ^^^
[05:38] <Madpilot> or 3rd if you're insane enough to run Dapper :P
[05:38] <purplefeltangel> farous: okay, so what?
[05:38] <Madpilot> <== away, dinner
[05:39] <farous> purplefeltangel: what ?
[05:39] <purplefeltangel> farous: what was it you told me to do?
[05:39] <FlannelKing> is there any way to have lynx remember my SSL certificate choices? (so I don't have to 'y' each page of a https site)
[05:39] <farous> purplefeltangel: i forgot just croll up
[05:39] <farous> purplefeltangel: i think you need to check if you have the sound devices or not
[05:40] <purplefeltangel> farous: okay i typed ls /dev/dsp and i got . . . the same thing, except on a black background with yellow
[05:40] <salah> Madpilot
[05:40] <salah> How can I do that?
[05:40] <farous> purplefeltangel: ok good. now type lsof /dev/dsp
[05:40] <cedriczg> _jason, I have the partition munted, the problem is that I have to be always su to access it
[05:40] <farous> purplefeltangel: this will tell you what is using the sound device
[05:40] <_jason> cedriczg: did you see the table?
[05:40] <salah> How can I change my server
[05:41] <Installer36> Purple Checkout this site  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=337513
[05:41] <cedriczg> _jason, yes I did
[05:41] <bad_iNFO> lol
[05:41] <purplefeltangel> farous: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9576
[05:41] <farous> salah: edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <_jason> cedriczg: and did you update your fstab accordingly?
[05:41] <dtry_> _jason sup man
[05:41] <kdomb> ok, that was weird.. if anyone responded to my question re: gdm+keychain, I didn't get it..
[05:41] <dtry_> remember me? kcul?
[05:42] <_jason> dtry_: hello
[05:42] <_jason> yep
[05:42] <mac_> salut atous
[05:42] <farous> salah so basically sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list. change all ca. to an empty space
[05:42] <dtry_> i told you i was gon install ubuntu
[05:42] <_jason> !fr
[05:42] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[05:42] <cedriczg> _jason I see which table you are talking about
[05:42] <dtry_> :D
[05:42] <cedriczg> _jason, I'll try that
[05:42] <mac_> ;/
[05:42] <dtry_> i successufully installed it man
[05:42] <cedriczg> _jason, thanx again
[05:42] <dtry_> finally
[05:42] <_jason> dtry_: great
[05:42] <markw> what's a fast US ubuntu mirror?
[05:42] <dtry_> still have some probs though
[05:42] <_jason> cedriczg: np, just come in here again if you have any problems
[05:42] <dtry_> like X window system aint working
[05:42] <_jason> dtry_: just ask away
[05:42] <farous> purplefeltangel: aha we nailed it man. firefox uses oss and as such you can not run sound while it is using it
[05:43] <purplefeltangel> farous: whaat? :S
[05:43] <farous> purplefeltangel: so close all firefox that you have open then test your sound again
[05:43] <cedriczg> _jason, of course. Here I've found real help :D
[05:43] <endemic> how can I actually mount a SMB share with the live CD?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> with the proper mount command.
[05:43] <mentesuprema> x D
[05:43] <endemic> It doesn't like mount -t smbfs
[05:43] <madewokherd> why have I never had the firefox sound problem?
[05:44] <purplefeltangel> farous: hey! guess what! i't still not working. >(
[05:44] <delmar> Great... 79% of installing the base system.. "Installing the kernel - retrieving and installing Linux-386" ... and its crapped out... ill burn another CD and see what happens but.. this is getting so damn tedious. grrrr
[05:44] <ubuntu_> i followed this advice and now i cant boot in xwindows http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107856&highlight=ext3 i am lost as to what to do.
[05:44] <purplefeltangel> farous: plus sound wasnt working in firefox either  . . . that was actually what alerted me to the problem.
[05:44] <farous> purplefeltangel: in a terminal type killall firefox-bin
[05:44] <_jason> madewokherd: you /want/ a sound problem?
[05:44] <dtry_> how to add  a user with 'root access'
[05:44] <dtry_> ?
[05:44] <purplefeltangel> farous: firefox-bin: no process killed
[05:44] <bimberi> endemic: Places -> Connect to Server, Service Type - Windows Share
[05:44] <madewokherd> no, I want to understand why the problem doesn't affect me
[05:44] <_jason> ubuntu_: tell dtry_ about sudo
[05:45] <farous> ok try the lsof /dev/dsp again
[05:45] <endemic> bimberi: But does it actually create a mountpoint somewhere?
[05:45] <_jason> dtry_: anyone a member of the 'admin' group gets sudo access
[05:45] <kdomb> wtf? i did not quit!
[05:45] <normal1> anyone use proxychains here ?
[05:45] <zx8> yes
[05:45] <salah>  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list... I run this and I got a list Now what I hv to do?
[05:45] <normal1> i'm having a proabem useing it with firefox
[05:45] <purplefeltangel> farous: okay, it's working now. but the whole problem was that i wanted to listen to something in firefox (no, it wasnt in flash) and it wasn't working. plus sound has worked for me before in firefox. so what do i do now?
[05:45] <Syns> how can i change font colors?
[05:46] <purplefeltangel> *with firefox open
[05:46] <wastrel> delmar:  try burning the cd @ a slower speed  - and do a md5sum on the finished cd to make sure it's all correct
[05:46] <bimberi> endemic: i'm not sure.  If it connects successfully do a 'df' to see
[05:46] <normal1> purple ?
[05:46] <purplefeltangel> normal1: what? me?
[05:46] <farous> purplefeltangel: lets start now your sound is ok. now make your default multimedia selector, sound system alsa
[05:46] <cedriczg> _jason, I added ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 to the fstab
[05:46] <delmar> wastrel, yep was thinkin the same thing. i always burn slower if im havin issues. classic problem with high speed writes.
[05:46] <endemic> bimberi: nope, i think it just creates a folder on the desktop. I'm basically desperately trying to find a way to back up the hard drive on my laptop through the network
[05:46] <purplefeltangel> farous: ok
[05:46] <cedriczg> _jason, Do I have to reboot to see the effect?
[05:47] <normal1> so no one's had this proablem
[05:47] <_jason> cedriczg: looks good, just remount
[05:47] <normal1> it just opens and does nothing
[05:47] <coz> problem getting on internet dapper won't stop usung ipv6
[05:47] <normal1> doesn't even display a string of proxys
[05:47] <coz> any solutions
[05:47] <ZAKhan> I have ubuntu installed on my IBM T40 and an external monitor connected to the port replicator, everything works fine but then i view a video I can hear the sound but no picture just black screen, but when i do the same when no external monitor is connected itsd all ok, can someone please help me out here?
[05:47] <farous> purplefeltangel: than install alsa-oss package
[05:47] <cedriczg> _jason, So when I reeboot I should see it the same way if I remount now?
[05:47] <_jason> cedriczg: yes
[05:47] <purplefeltangel> farous: it gave me a bunch of errors!!
[05:48] <farous> paste them
[05:48] <Syns> how can i change font colors?
[05:48] <coz> ZAKhan cna the prot replicator handle video
[05:48] <cedriczg> _jason So I'll prefer to trry to reboot :P
[05:48] <ZAKhan> coz
[05:48] <_jason> cedriczg: k
[05:48] <coz> does it handle that kind of input
[05:48] <ZAKhan> coz : yes on windows it works fine
[05:48] <purplefeltangel> farous: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9577
[05:49] <coz> AH ok well have you installed all the video codecs etc
[05:49] <ZAKhan> coz : i think its a problem of setting it as primary display but how i donot know
[05:49] <Madpilot> Syns, in which application?
[05:49] <coz> hol don
[05:49] <farous> purplefeltangel: if you changed your source list you need to update it. are you using synaptic or command line
[05:49] <Syns> well all of them...
[05:49] <Syns> for example.. in add applications
[05:49] <Syns> i cant see the text
[05:49] <purplefeltangel> farous: . . . i have firefox up and sound is working right now
[05:49] <purplefeltangel> farous: command line
[05:50] <Syns> its almost white on white
[05:50] <Syns> could be because of the theme i have
[05:50] <purplefeltangel> farous: what is it i need to do?
[05:50] <lwizardl> hi
[05:50] <farous> purplefeltangel: ok sudo aptitude update
[05:50] <Madpilot> Syns, all of those font colours are controlled by the theme - change theme and see if it's better
[05:50] <dtry_> configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. << any ideas?
[05:50] <bimberi> endemic: still there?
[05:51] <Syns> so if i have a theme, I have to use the font colors it gives me?
[05:51] <Syns> i have no say in the matter?
[05:51] <endemic> bimberi: yup, I figured it out. You are able to install packages in temp space with the live CD and synaptic.. so I'm thinking about just dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/mnt/smb to get a backup disk image off
[05:51] <andrei> when i load ubuntu, the modules fail to load "no such file or directory" but then next try they load. so how do i fix this?
[05:51] <Madpilot> Syns, as far as I know, yes
[05:51] <wastrel> Syns:  you can edit the theme - it's a text file
[05:51] <hsikrut> root@illest:/home/hsikrut# ifconfig
[05:51] <hsikrut> : error fetching interface information: Device not found
[05:52] <hsikrut> help ?
[05:52] <purplefeltangel> farous: now the same thing?
[05:52] <bimberi> endemic: ah OK.  I was going to say that you can drag and drop within nautilus (the file manager).
[05:52] <farous> purplefeltangel: you have problems with your sources
[05:52] <Syns> k
[05:52] <farous> purplefeltangel: try easysource
[05:52] <endemic> bimberi: Yeah but that wouldn't have worked. I dont have 60GB of RAM :)
[05:52] <iceman> what does this mean ... Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[05:52] <hsikrut> : error fetching interface information: Device not found
[05:52] <andrei> when i load ubuntu, the modules fail to load "no such file or directory" but then next try they load. so how do i fix this?
[05:52] <purplefeltangel> farous: no i meant, should i type the same thing?
[05:52] <farous> !tell purplefeltangel about easysource
[05:52] <hsikrut> : error fetching interface information: Device not found <-- after i type "ifconfig"
[05:52] <farous> purplefeltangel: yah install the same package alsa-oss
 what is the model of laptop again
[05:52] <iceman> how do i fix that gl error
[05:53] <purplefeltangel> farous: okay, it installed now what
[05:53] <ZAKhan> IBM T40
[05:53] <coz> hold on
[05:53] <zx8> anyone have a freshtel account?
[05:53] <farous> purplefeltangel: now when you run firefox do it from a terminal and type aoss firefox
[05:53] <wastrel> what's freshtel
[05:53] <salah> how can I update apt-get?
[05:53] <purplefeltangel> farous: like, FOREVER?
[05:53] <zx8> an iax provider
[05:53] <farous> purplefeltangel: this is a wrapper so you have virtual sound mixing
[05:53] <andrei> when i load ubuntu, the modules fail to load "no such file or directory" but then next try they load. so how do i fix this?
[05:53] <tecs> what should i install wine or xwine?
[05:53] <iceman> how do i fix this error ? Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[05:54] <madewokherd> tecs: wine
[05:54] <farous> purplefeltangel: if you want to listen to something while listening to files on firefox
[05:54] <tecs> thnx
[05:54] <bimberi> endemic: oh, ok, i didn't realise it would cache the whole copy operation
[05:54] <zx8> does anyone have a sip number i can call to test?
[05:54] <madewokherd> purplefeltangel: you could change the shortcuts or something..
[05:54] <farous> purplefeltangel: where you trying to listen to something using xmms when the problem occured
[05:54] <andrei> when i load ubuntu, the modules fail to load "no such file or directory" but then next try they load. so how do i fix this?
[05:54] <andrei> wont anyone help me
[05:55] <iceman> i got a error trying to run wolfdemo ... help ..
[05:55] <iceman> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[05:55] <coz> ZAKhan i am finding little about this problem ask again maybe someone here knows
[05:55] <purplefeltangel> farous: no it's a player on some website . . . i dont even know what program it is :S
[05:55] <farous> :)
[05:55] <endemic> bimberi: Yeah because I would need a place to store the file while the operation is in use unless there is some shady way to pipe that whole operation to nautilus which in turn sends it to the remote machine :)
[05:55] !lilo:*! Small regional server split, 57 users affected
[05:55] <ZAKhan> coz, thankx
[05:55] <andrei> when i load ubuntu, the modules fail to load "no such file or directory" but then next try they load. so how do i fix this?
[05:55] <ZAKhan> I have ubuntu installed on my IBM T40 and an external monitor connected to the port replicator, everything works fine but then i view a video I can hear the sound but no picture just black screen, but when i do the same when no external monitor is connected itsd all ok, can someone please help me out here?
[05:55] <andrei> when i load ubuntu, the modules fail to load "no such file or directory" but then next try they load. so how do i fix this?
[05:55] <andrei> when i load ubuntu, the modules fail to load "no such file or directory" but then next try they load. so how do i fix this?
[05:55] <andrei> when i load ubuntu, the modules fail to load "no such file or directory" but then next try they load. so how do i fix this?
[05:56] <andrei> come on sum1 help plez
[05:56] <scelestus> farous: it says "no working leases in persistent database  - sleeping"  any ideas?
[05:56] <farous> purplefeltangel: oss is the old sound system it need exclusive acess to your sound device. some programs have it as their default like xmms but you can change it. some you can not like firefox and realplay
[05:56] <pab1> why is it that I can play some WMV files in VLC, but others only play sound... no video?
[05:56] <farous> scelestus: sorry what are you trying to do again
[05:56] <hsikrut> : error fetching interface information: Device not found <-- after i type "ifconfig"
[05:56] <purplefeltangel> farous: oh. :/
[05:56] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: type 'ifconfig -a' to see all devices
[05:57] <scelestus> farous:  getting my intel 2200 working
[05:57] <aboapri> hey folks, got both my computers running ubuntu....    Was going to set up file sharing between the two, all the instructions I find are command-line....    is the "shared folders" menu option broken?
[05:57] <pei_world> anyone know crti.o: No such file problem?
[05:57] <andrei> ok im sry for spamming
[05:57] <andrei> im a noob and idk how to fix problem
[05:57] <farous> scelestus: i guess it is your router. disable any security till it work so now wep or wpa
[05:57] <lwizardl> can someone point me to a good source of info for setting up a computer to act as a NAS server would prefer ubuntu os
[05:57] <pei_world> when I tried to build cross compiler for mipsel, it said crti.o: No such file
[05:57] <hsikrut> IcemanV9 i still get that error
[05:57] <Madpilot> andrei, spam again and you'll be banned, not just kicked, OK?
[05:57] <farous> scelestus: then enable them again just trying to hunt down the problem
[05:57] <andrei> sry
[05:58] <mediated> I'm trying to test out ubuntu on my friend's Dell Dimension 2100.  I tried booting the live cds(breezy and hoary), and they both freeze at the same point.  right at the end of the boot sequence, when Gnome is about to launch, it freezes with what looks like a cursor and does nothing.
[05:58] <scelestus> farous:  ok ill try it..thanks
[05:58] <hsikrut> root@illest:/home/hsikrut# ifconfig -a
[05:58] <hsikrut> : error fetching interface information: Device not found
[05:58] <farous> scelestus: did you set it right though your dns is your router address by the way
[05:58] <zx8> how do i install a .deb package with ubuntu?
[05:58] <farous> zx8 sudo dpkg -i <package>
[05:58] <phiber_optic> zx8,  sudo dpkg -i packagename
[05:58] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: corrupt? anyway, do you have any net devices?
[05:58] <zx8> thx
[05:59] <farous> zx8: but look it on the repos first
[05:59] <hsikrut> IcemanV9 im using erthernet
[05:59] <andrei> why wont my intellimouse work: night 2 of the drama
[05:59] <hsikrut> also my nmap doesnt workj
[05:59] <hsikrut> Starting nmap 3.81 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2006-03-01 15:52 EST
[05:59] <hsikrut> Failed to find interface eth1 mentioned in /proc/net/route
[06:00] <bimberi> mediated: try some of the special boot options (hit F1 at the boot menu for help) 'acpi=off' might be worth a try
[06:00] <bimberi> mediated: boot prompt (not menu) :)
[06:00] <mediated> ok thanks bimberi!  I'll try that
[06:00] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know any web browsers that *don't* suck?
[06:01] <andrei> purplefeltangel, FIREFOX!!!
[06:01] <andrei> or opera
[06:01] <farous> purplefeltangel: what is wrong with firefox
[06:01] <purplefeltangel> andrei: except that it's what's giving me my sound problems
[06:01] <dtry_> configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. << any ideas?
[06:01] <andrei> purplefeltangel, try opera
[06:01] <andrei> or update firefox
[06:01] <aboapri> have you tried kazehakase?
[06:01] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: okay. let put eth1 down. then, dhclient eth1. try ifconfig again.
[06:01] <andrei> to 1.5.0.1
[06:01] <purplefeltangel> andrei: i don't like opera. :/
[06:01] <purplefeltangel> andrei: and i think i am on 1.5.0.1
[06:01] <farous> dtry_: you need xdm, gdm or kdm installed
[06:01] <PuppiesOnAcid> Does anyone honestly like opera?
[06:01] <andrei> check to make sure, purplefeltangel
[06:01] <hsikrut> so eth1 down ; dhclient ?
[06:01] <purplefeltangel> andrei: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5?
[06:02] <bimberi> dtry_: what is being done to get that message?
[06:02] <madewokherd> I still think it's weird that no one else is having these problems
[06:02] <pab1> Is there any way to allow WMV3 playback on linux?  Preferrable through VLC?
[06:02] <farous> purplefeltangel: what is wrong with opera. running ver 9.0 here and firefox is just catching up
[06:02] <aboapri> actually the best web browser is dillo
[06:02] <andrei> is it possible to run itunes on linux
[06:02] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: sudo ifconfig eth1 down; sudo dhclient eth1
[06:02] <pab1> gtkpod
[06:02] <purplefeltangel> farous: well i only tried it on windows and it made my computer crash like whoa, and the toolbars were too bulky ^o^
[06:02] <pab1> andrei^
[06:02] <farous> PuppiesOnAcid: what is wrong with firefox
[06:02] <stupendo44> what's the easiest way to extract/convert .sit files?
[06:03] <andrei> oh
[06:03] <wastrel> how did you install ff1.5?  using the howto on the wiki?
[06:03] <andrei> rats
[06:03] <farous> sorry purplefeltangel that was ment for PuppiesOnAcid
[06:03] <aboapri> firefox can be a bit heavy for old computers.
[06:03] <andrei> wastrel, thats really hard
[06:03] <aboapri> that is my only complaint with it.
[06:03] <hsikrut> Can't get interface flags for : No such device
[06:03] <hsikrut> exiting.
[06:03] <hsikrut> after i typed ifconfig eth1 down
[06:03] <hsikrut> then dhcilent
[06:03] <pab1> andrei: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8160
[06:03] <cedriczg> _jason, Thnaks a lot frien it really worked!!!
[06:03] <farous> eh am to sleepy care all
[06:03] <_jason> cedriczg: great
[06:03] <wastrel> stupendo44:  stuffit expander has a linux version iirc
[06:03] <PuppiesOnAcid> farous: I dunno...I've met a number of people who suggest Opera as an "alternative browser", but not many people who actually use it or prefer it to Firefox.
[06:04] <cedriczg> _jason, is it possible not to see the windows mounted on the desktop?
[06:04] <stupendo44> wastrel: any other way besides stuffit? I'd like to avoid it if possible
[06:04] <madewokherd> I pretty much always have opera installed
[06:04] <madewokherd> in case firefox stops working for some reason
[06:04] <wastrel> stupendo44:  dunno, it's been years since i saw a .sit archive ;] 
[06:04] <mediated> bimberi: did you mean 'noapic' ?  I tried
[06:04] <stupendo44> wastrel: RealBasic stuff I'm working with. Mainly mac-based. everyone uses .sit files.
[06:04] <mediated> 'acpi=off'
[06:04] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: it happened to me twice ... last time, i just simply rebooted. something just borked.
[06:04] <andrei> wait can some1 link the wiki for ff1.5.0.1 for me plez
[06:05] <purplefeltangel> aboapri: do you actually use dillo?
[06:05] <wastrel> !ff1.5
[06:05] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:05] <cedriczg> _jason, Because I don't unnderstand the options on the fstab
[06:05] <bimberi> mediated: that's another you could try
[06:05] <_jason> cedriczg: applications menu > system tools > configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible unchecked
[06:05] <Shadyman> Note to self: Deleting DHCP3 folder was a dumb move.
[06:05] <purplefeltangel> !fr
[06:05] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[06:05] <hsikrut> Can't get interface flags for : No such device
[06:05] <ZAKhan> anyone using a port replicator with IBM laptop?
[06:05] <purplefeltangel> how do i change what Ubotu says?
[06:05] <dtry_> _jason, configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. << any ideas?
[06:05] <hsikrut> ifconfig eth1 down > then dhclient eth1
[06:05] <hsikrut> after that i got disconnected
[06:05] <_jason> dtry_: install libx11-dev I think, something like that
[06:06] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: /msg ubotu no fr is <whatever you think it should be>
[06:06] <Madpilot> purplefeltangel, do "!no, <foo> is <whatever>"
[06:06] <purplefeltangel> thanks
[06:06] <hsikrut> IcemanV9 ?
[06:06] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: yeah. down will disconnect you. dhclient should bring it back.
[06:06] <aboapri> I sometimes use dillo.    It is not good for all modern sites, no, but that is not dillo's fault, I blame the internet for that.
[06:06] <hsikrut> IcemanV9 ill try again one sec.
[06:06] <wastrel> what's dillo?
[06:07] <bimberi> !info dillo
[06:07] <ubotu> dillo: (GTK-based web browser), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.5-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 684 kB
[06:07] <aboapri> it is a no-frills web browser
[06:07] <wastrel> yet another gecko browser?
[06:07] <aboapri> it is very minimalist.
[06:07] <wastrel> i liked galeon before the gtk2.0 suckage :[
[06:07] <aboapri> not gecko, I do not believe so.
[06:07] <purplefeltangel> !no, fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en franais
[06:07] <aurelio> SALUDOS DESDE MEXICO
[06:08] <madewokherd> this isn't even gtk2, is it?
[06:08] <Shadyman> !es
[06:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> !fr
[06:08] <ubotu> Vas a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> hey, it didn't change
[06:08] <dtry_> how do you start ssh everytime you reboot?
[06:08] <hsikrut> IcemanV9 nope i got that error again
[06:08] <tritium> dtry_: it's automatic
[06:08] <hsikrut> Can't get interface flags for : No such device <==
[06:08] <wastrel> people were spamming the bot so they locked it down
[06:08] <bimberi> purplefeltangel: try leaving out the comma after no
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> thanks
[06:08] <dtry_> not really
[06:08] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: ithen reboot is the next thing to do.
[06:09] <dtry_> not with mine
[06:09] <tritium> dtry_: no, really
[06:09] <purplefeltangel> !fr
[06:09] <ubotu> hmm... fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[06:09] <IcemanV9> *then
[06:09] <purplefeltangel> thanks :)
[06:09] <hsikrut> ok
[06:09] <wastrel> dtry_:  man update-rc.d
[06:09] <hsikrut> umm also how do i set off nobiospnp ?
[06:09] <tritium> dtry_: what problems are you having?
[06:09] <dtry_> i had to restart evertime i reboot
[06:10] <tritium> dtry_: that's now how it's configured by default
[06:10] <aboapri> so has anyone set up folder sharing with ubuntu computers?
[06:10] <dtry_> let me try that wastrel
[06:10] <cedriczg> _jason, thank you that worked. But...
[06:10] <hsikrut> icemanV9?
[06:10] <cedriczg> _jason, Why the windows directory didn't appear before?
[06:10] <tritium> dtry_: how did you change it after install?
[06:11] <cedriczg> _jason, I mean in the desktop as mounted?
[06:11] <hsikrut> umm also how do i set off nobiospnp ? on start/b00t
[06:11] <cedriczg> _jason, Because my user was restricted to see it?
[06:11] <dtry_> nothing, i just installed ssh and i rebooted and i had to restart it again
[06:12] <tritium> dtry_: what makes you think that?
[06:12] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: no idea abt nobiospnp
[06:13] <cedriczg> _jason, before I didn't see it as mounted maybe?
[06:14] <hsikrut> k
[06:14] <jsestri2> i had my ivtv setup working correctly, and now that i have restarted, its broken and ivtvctl, only gives me "not an ivtv driver"
[06:14] <_jason> cedriczg: yeah, because you didn't have 'user' I think
[06:14] <IcemanV9> hsikrut: try this solution --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2760
[06:14] <nw> anyone had problems with being able to see your HDD's when going to install ubuntu? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137577 for more info on what i've been doing..
[06:15] <coolpup> Hi
[06:15] <aboapri> bye
[06:16] <dtry_> nope _jason
[06:16] <dtry_> that didn't work
[06:16] <dtry_> :/
[06:16] <dtry_> im trying to install fluxbox
[06:16] <ZAKhan> anyone using an IBM laptop with port replicator?
[06:17] <h3ax> ok maybe its me thats tired but.. "You must give -r /path/to/program/authd (witch in this case is /usr/sbin/pure-authd
[06:17] <coolpup> I installed 6.04, Flight 4 the other day. Once installed, the desktop is splattered with multiple panels, and other assorted nonsense. Any suggestions?
[06:17] <_jason> dtry_: checkout the README for all the deps
[06:17] <dtry_> where i can locate that?
[06:17] <dtry_> sorry, you know im newb
[06:18] <c_rippa> does anyone know when dapper is scheduled for release?
[06:18] <coolpup> April, from what I see
[06:18] <h3ax> go to term writ man -k "prog you want documentation for"
[06:18] <c_rippa> :) thx.
[06:18] <mlins> Would anybody be so kind to check out my post on the forums and see if they know the answer to my question.  I constantly I have to restart Xwindows. : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133719
[06:19] <mediated> bimberi: I've tried every command from F1 that I thought was appropriate.  Any other ideas?
[06:19] <_jason> dtry_: should be in the main directory that got extracted
[06:19] <sandrina_l> expected release dates
[06:19] <sandrina_l> # 2006-04-13: Ubuntu Linux RC
[06:19] <sandrina_l> # 2006-04-20: Ubuntu Linux 6.04
[06:19] <h3ax> any one here used to run Pure ftp
[06:19] <c_rippa> sweet.  thx.
[06:19] <Klick_> Anyone able to help me figure out whats wrong with mplayer, it skips when it plays certain video types like here is an example
[06:20] <Klick_> http://pastebin.com/577936
[06:20] <scelestus> ok my wifi card now says "no DHCPOFFERS"
[06:20] <scelestus> any ideas?
[06:20] <Hobbsee> scelestus: sudo dhclient wlan0?
[06:21] <HermanDE> Klick_: Try mplayer -o oss .......
[06:21] <scelestus> let me try
[06:21] <ckopn> hi all
[06:21] <HermanDE> Klick_: or gmplayer -oa ass....
[06:21] <_jason> Klick_: use srate=48000 if you want to keep alsa
[06:21] <HermanDE> Klick_: Or it's -ao ....  Gawd  I'm getting too old to remember... :)
[06:21] <Klick_> haha -ao ass
[06:21] <scelestus> lol
[06:22] <_jason> Klick_: ass :P you mean oss?
[06:22] <Klick_> thats what im thining about mplayer at the moment
[06:22] <HermanDE> I need a good smell checker....  :)
[06:22] <ckopn> i have ubuntu 5.04, and disc with 5.10 , how to upgade it?
[06:22] <tritium> HermanDE: try your nose ;)
[06:22] <ckopn> without reinstal
[06:22] <_jason> Klick_: just put srate=48000 in ~/.mplayer/config, works fine for me
[06:22] <mlins> Guys I'm getting desperate, I can't believe no has this problem.  I have an adequete system.  Please look here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133719
[06:23] <Klick_> well using oss worked.. but that srate=48000 idnt unless im doing it wrong, is this right
[06:23] <Klick_> mplayer -vo xv -ao alsa srate=48000 /data/Videos/Breakdancing\ -\ Kollaboration\ 2003\ -\ David\ Elsewhere\ Bernal.mpeg
[06:23] <_jason> Klick_: the option would be '-srate 48000'
[06:24] <Klick_> ahh cool, thanks a ton!
[06:24] <HermanDE> mlins: What are you trying to do?
[06:24] <dtry_> gnome or kde, which one is stable for desktop
[06:24] <dtry_> ?
[06:24] <scelestus> *ducks*
[06:24] <pbransford> how do I kick a user off a terminal?
[06:24] <pbransford> the user in question is under ALT-F1
[06:24] <dtry_> kill -9 id ?
[06:24] <Kelsey_> # kill pid
[06:24] <_jason> Klick_: but just put that stuff in ~/.mplayer/config so you don't type it all the time, the syntax looks like 'srate=48000' and you can put the vo an ao stuff there too
[06:24] <pbransford> ok how di I find the numbers i need?
[06:24] <wastrel> change their password first so they don't just relog
[06:25] <mlins> HermanDE : Xwindows will not load programs after a couple of day of running.  I try to load firefox or anything and it won't load
[06:25] <pbransford> ... its me, a program died and the term wont respond even after I killed the process
[06:25] <Kelsey_> # telint 6
[06:25] <HermanDE> mlins: are you running dapper?
[06:25] <mlins> HermanDE : If I try to load it manually from the console I get the error seen here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133719
[06:25] <Kelsey_> ^ best command ever!!!!!!!!!!
[06:25] <pbransford> I was bad, angband died.
[06:25] <mlins> HermanDE : no
[06:26] <Klick_> _jason, ok that works perfect one more small thing maybe is easy for you to help me fix, on some videos i get this when i try to play them
[06:26] <Klick_> http://pastebin.com/577944
[06:26] <mlins> HermanDE : Breezy
[06:26] <pbransford> help?
[06:26] <jsestri2> my ivtv dosent seem to be setup right...i can't get the video0 device to play in VLC media player
[06:26] <jsestri2> any help?
[06:26] <scelestus> Now I get "No DHCPOFFERS recieved   No working leases in persistent database"
[06:26] <Kelsey_> # telinit 6
[06:26] <scelestus> I turned off WEP
[06:26] <pbransford> what exactly will that do Kelsey_?
[06:26] <HermanDE> mlins: How many X apps are running when this happens?
[06:27] <Kelsey_> dont type it, unless your computer is froze
[06:27] <Kelsey_> it will reboot the machine
[06:27] <_jason> Klick_: you have w32codecs?
[06:27] <Klick_> _jason, I believe so how do i tell
[06:27] <pbransford> ok, that particular terminal is locked in the Angband screen, even after I killed the angband process
[06:27] <pbransford> everything else works fine
[06:27] <HermanDE> pbransford: It drops the system into run level 6....
[06:27] <Kelsey_> 6 =reboot runlevel :D
[06:27] <mlins> HermanDE : not many...one or two....at time I'll have a lot running, but even if I close everything the problem persists until I restart X
[06:28] <wastrel> pbransford:  did you use the -9 flag to kill angband?
[06:28] <_jason> Klick_: good question, depends on how you installed them.  does 'ls /usr/lib/win32/' show a lot of files?
[06:28] <HermanDE> mlins: Sounds like you have an X app that doesn't really close down properly....
[06:28] <h3ax> mm
[06:28] <pbransford> wastrel: i killed it with the system monitor
[06:28] <scelestus> Hobbsee:   Now I get "No DHCPOFFERS recieved   No working leases in persistent database"
[06:28] <mlins> HermanDE : do you think it's firefox? that is the app I run the most..
[06:28] <pbransford> wastrel: pkill ### and kill ### NEVER work, seemingly
[06:28] <Klick_> _jason, yes, i downloaded the CVS all codec respository and coppied them all to there, and also to /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[06:28] <Hobbsee> scelestus: using any encryption on this wireless connectoin?
[06:29] <HermanDE> mlins: you might want to do a top or ps when it happens again to see what is running....
[06:29] <peloverde> whats the best way to add fonts to fonts.conf do i need to do it manually or is there an automagic tool?
[06:29] <scelestus> just turned off WEP before I tried those commands
[06:29] <wastrel> pbransford:  kill -9 works :] 
[06:29] <Psykus> my sound just stopped working, and i'm hearing nothing but a clicking sound in my headphones
[06:29] <h3ax> why is PureFtpd |PureAdmin| report "PureFTPd not running" .. but i just logged in on it ?
[06:29] <Psykus> what's the command to restart alsa?
[06:29] <mlins> HermanDE: I have and nothing major is running...it's strange
[06:29] <_jason> Klick_: don't know then, try #mplayer if no one else here can help you out
[06:29] <HermanDE> h3ax: Are you running as xinetd/inetd or daemon?
[06:29] <pbransford> wastrel: except now the process is gone. can i find out who is logged in where, and how do I boot em off?
[06:30] <Klick_> should be /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[06:30] <scelestus> pbransford:  htop
[06:30] <nw> anyone had problems with being able to see your HDD's when going to install ubuntu? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137577 for more info on what i've been doing..
[06:30] <cryptik> hey
[06:30] <HermanDE> mlins: Hmm..  Could also be a buggy  X server....
[06:30] <cryptik> another question lol
[06:30] <pbransford> "sudo: htop: command not found"
[06:30] <Psykus> ok, restarted alsa, the clicking sound stopped for a second, but then started again, still no sound
[06:30] <h3ax> excuse me =) still not uptodate on the various sys extension meanings
[06:31] <cryptik> is there a driver problem with x64 and the ATI x600?
[06:31] <scelestus> sudo apt-get install htop
[06:31] <HermanDE> cryptik: Are you running an x600?
[06:31] <Mangelo> im having trouble running the packaged install program w/ the 5.10 install cd =(
[06:31] <mustard5> htop is nice :)
[06:31] <cryptik> yeah
[06:31] <mustard5> just installed it yesterday
[06:31] <scelestus> Hobbsee:   just turned off WEP before I tried those commands
[06:31] <dtry_> is 'sudo apt-get install' the same as 'sudo aptitude install'?
[06:32] <HermanDE> cryptik: I been reading about ATI dragging their heels on Linux....  Are you running vesa?
[06:32] <pbransford> installed it... now how the * do I use it?
[06:32] <mustard5> pbransford, type htop in terminal
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know if pine is available ?
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> I didn't find it syn
[06:32] <Hobbsee> scelestus: did you follow the stuff in !wifi?  particularly the troubleshooting page?  also, what else did you try?
[06:32] <h3ax> mm isn't there a "dictionary" on shortly explaining those terms.. i am not quite sure whats is what
[06:32] <CaptainMorgan> *in
[06:32] <timfrost> !pine
[06:32] <ubotu> timfrost: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:32] <scelestus> !wifi
[06:32] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:32] <cryptik> HermanDE: i have no idea lol i cant get ubuntu to load xserver with startx i get an error
[06:32] <h3ax> i have a feeling but hee
[06:32] <HermanDE> CaptainMorgan: It is always available.....
[06:32] <tritium> CaptainMorgan: it's not available, due to licensing issues.
[06:32] <mustard5> timfrost try !info pine
[06:32] <cryptik> im on XP now
[06:32] <thoreauputic> CaptainMorgan: pine is "non-free" and not in Ubuntu
[06:33] <pbransford> mustard5 - ok its up, but the user is not runnign anything, but i know that it's logged in on "ALT-F1" (whatever thats called)
[06:33] <tritium> CaptainMorgan: try mutt.
[06:33] <Psykus> brb, going to restart gnome and see if that does anything
[06:33] <wastrel> <3 mutt
[06:33] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[06:33] <HermanDE> cryptik: Hmm....  Sounds like what I've been reading....
[06:33] <jsestri2> is there a way to uninstall things properly?
[06:33] <mustard5> pbransford, I've only been half following the discussion unfortunately
[06:33] <Mangelo> [!!]  Install the base system.  Base system installation error.  The debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1).  Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.  <Go Back><continue>
[06:33] <HermanDE> jsestri2: apt-get remove (package name)
[06:33] <Mangelo> the error i get when i try to install =(
[06:33] <scelestus> Hobbsee:  ill double check
[06:33] <salah> Hello
[06:34] <pbransford> mustard5 - for some reason or another i need to force a user to log off. it's logged in the terminal that shows when you hit "ALT-F1"
[06:34] <cryptik> HermanDE : do you know of any fixes ir am i screwed in running ubuntu and give up ?
[06:34] <HermanDE> cryptik: What does your X log show?
[06:34] <dtry_> _jason, configure: error: Fluxbox requires the X Window System libraries and headers. << any ideas?
[06:34] <dtry_> ooops
[06:34] <mustard5> pbransford, you mean ctrl + alt + f1?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> dtry_: install xlibs-dev
[06:34] <pbransford> yes, if i'm in X
[06:34] <HermanDE> cryptik: Is this a laptop?
[06:34] <mustard5> pbransford, couldnt you just go there and type 'exit'?
[06:34] <salah> I wanna install mplayer.I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:34] <cryptik> no desktop
[06:34] <Installer36> dtry did you try sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[06:35] <pbransford> mustard5 - a program died, and when i killed it it never exited cleanly i guess, point is it's not taking input
[06:35] <dtry_> not yet
[06:35] <salah> but I can't setup $ tar -xjf Blue-1.4.tar.bz2
[06:35] <wastrel> pbransford:  ps aux | grep tty  - kill the pid for tty1
[06:35] <dtry_> is it included?
[06:35] <salah> Please helpme
[06:35] <Installer36> That is how I installed it last night
[06:35] <pbransford> mustard5 - and ctrl-c, ctrl-z, etc. do nothing :)
[06:35] <dtry_> nope
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Installer36: the breezy version of fluxbox has issues
[06:35] <dtry_> couldn't find
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Installer36: the dapper one should be OK
[06:35] <Psykus> ok, that didn't do anything, the clicking still continued while I was at the terminal
[06:35] <HermanDE> cryptik: Are you trying to use fglrx?
[06:36] <cryptik> hermanDE: it is a desktop and i have no idea what is says lol i says something failure to start x server blah blah blah  - ill try to load again and wriet down the message
[06:36] <Installer36> Because it is behind some versions?
[06:36] <cryptik> i have no idea what fglrx is srry
[06:36] <HermanDE> cryptik: Check in /var/log/X*
[06:36] <mustard5> pbransford, htop has some functions in the menu at the bottom btw
[06:36] <thoreauputic> dtry_: fluxbox is in universe
[06:36] <HermanDE> cryptik: Did you load the ATI drivers?
[06:36] <cryptik> ok thank you bbl
[06:36] <mustard5> pbransford, you could try them or use wastrel's method
[06:36] <dtry_> it means>
[06:36] <dtry_> ?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> !info fluxbox
[06:36] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[06:37] <pbransford> ok, i see two things in "ps aux | grep tty" that are non root, one of which is grep...
[06:37] <cryptik> hermande: how would i go about doing that ?
[06:37] <wastrel> pbransford:  it's going to be root
[06:37] <Installer36> What is this info about
[06:37] <tritium> thoreauputic: long time no see!
[06:37] <thoreauputic> !tell dtry_ about repositories
[06:37] <HermanDE> cryptik: I'll take that as "NO"....
[06:37] <chris12349> whenever I run synapic or anything that involves the root user the gtk theme is an ugly default.  Is there a way to fix that? I tried logging in as root and changing the theme but it didn't work
[06:37] <cryptik> haha yeah lol
[06:37] <pbransford> nothing on TTY1.
[06:37] <HermanDE> cryptik: ATI has a very specific set of drivers for linux.....
[06:37] <pbransford> odd...
[06:37] <thoreauputic> tritium: yeah, I've been doing other stuff :)
[06:37] <pbransford> wait...!
[06:37] <tritium> thoreauputic: yeah, me too :)
[06:37] <pbransford> "root      8343  0.0  0.2   2256  1060 tty1     Ss   Feb28   0:00 /bin/login --"
[06:37] <pbransford> is that it?
[06:38] <HermanDE> cryptik: There are actually two flavors...  ATI (Official) and GPL'd....
[06:38] <wastrel> yes
[06:38] <pbransford> ok... what do I do with it
[06:38] <cryptik> ok
[06:38] <HermanDE> cryptik: for the newer cards, ATI (official) is the recommended.....
[06:38] <Rob_Dude> Hi all.  I'm having a DNS type issue....the /etc/resolv.conf file keeps getting updated by my DHCP server (which is good) but once that happens my connection crawls until I manually edit it and remove the first two lines (no good DNS servers).  How can I stop that file from being changed?
[06:38] <Installer36> thoreaputic what is info about
[06:38] <pbransford> theres no headers, i have no idea what is what
[06:38] <wastrel> pbransford:  sudo kill -9 8343
[06:38] <Mangelo> playing around in bash...whats the command to remove an entire directory, no matter if its empty or not
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Installer36: !info searches for packages
[06:38] <wastrel> pbransford:  ps aux | head  will give you the column names
[06:38] <HermanDE> Rob_Dude: check your dhclient.conf or dhclient* file in /etc
[06:38] <pbransford> no efect
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Installer36: it tells you what they are and what repo
[06:38] <Installer36> how does obuntu respond so fast
[06:39] <cryptik> hermande : how would i load these ? do you know ?
[06:39] <Rob_Dude> HermanDE:  Thank you
[06:39] <pbransford> term is still sitting in an old angband screen :/
[06:39] <delmar> OK. looks like ubuntu finally installed and all good...i guess it didnt detect my nvidia tho..
[06:39] <thoreauputic> Installer36: ubotu is a bot :)
[06:39] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[06:39] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:39] <tritium> !tell delmar about nvidia
[06:39] <delmar> lol thanks tritium
[06:39] <wastrel> pbransford:  you sure there's no login line at the bottom?
[06:39] <Psykus> i've suddenly lost sound, and in place of it, a constant clicking noise...tried restarting alsa, and then gnome, no luck there either
[06:39] <pbransford> yea
[06:39] <pbransford> and the system carot is in mid-screen
[06:40] <wastrel> pbransford:  if the terminal settings were changed they might not have reset.  try logging in blind and typing "reset"
[06:40] <Installer36> So he doesnt typr real fast then...
[06:40] <HermanDE> cryptik: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300
[06:40] <thoreauputic> Installer36: heh :)
[06:40] <pbransford> nothing happening
[06:40] <delmar> Hey what happens with ubuntu if I move the hard drive to a different mobo with new/different features.. will it care much or like other debian/linux distro's.... not really too much apart from a few modules such as network etc.?
[06:40] <tritium> cryptik: you want to use the official ubuntu fglrx packages.
[06:41] <tritium> !tell cryptik about ati
[06:41] <wastrel> pbransford:  and you still have that tty1 line in   ps aux | grep tty1
[06:41] <dtry_> i could not even start X, so why should i follow that?
[06:41] <dtry_> i mean no GUI and stuff
[06:41] <dtry_> just the console
[06:41] <tritium> dtry_: with all the problems you've mentioned, it sounds like you hosed your install
[06:41] <HermanDE> tritium: I've discovered that the ubuntu module failes on the x600 and x800....
[06:41] <pbransford> "root      9652  0.0  0.0   1552   420 tty1     Ss+  00:40   0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1" now
[06:41] <thoreauputic> dtry_: have you tried  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[06:41] <pbransford> odd situation
[06:42] <pbransford> tried killing that, no effect
[06:42] <dtry_> i think thats it thoreauputic
[06:42] <dtry_> let me take a look
[06:42] <melaren> Is Dapper Drake Alpha Flight 4 close to the speed we will see in the stable release?  ...or will it get faster?
[06:42] <wastrel> pbransford:  try logging in blind again - hit enter a few times first to make sure you have a "login" prompt
[06:42] <sandrina_l> please point me to a good place on this: setting up lamp. ubuntu gives me only apache2 as an option... how should i go about for installing lamp with apache-perl version 1?
[06:42] <HermanDE> melaren: is it fast?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> dtry_: that will usually work OK - you can choose the vesa driver to get going if all else fails
[06:43] <pbransford> nothing
[06:43] <pbransford> maybe i should just reboot
[06:43] <wastrel> or you could just ignore it and use tty2 :] 
[06:43] <melaren> hermanDE: startup is fast.
[06:43] <pbransford> what runlevel is single-user?
[06:43] <dtry_> but look, isnt 'nv' nvidia from the list?
[06:43] <HermanDE> pbransford: 1
[06:43] <pbransford> ill try that
[06:43] <Psykus> are there any other sound related services apart from alsa that I can restart? i've suddenly lost sound, and in place of it, a constant clicking noise...tried restarting alsa, and then gnome, no luck there either
[06:43] <lnc> mplayer produces a horrible static squawk when I try to play a dvd under ubuntu.  It gives the error Couldn't find matching filter/ao format!
[06:43] <lnc>   How do I fix this?  Ive tried it with and without the audio server running and with the option -ao esd
[06:43] <thoreauputic> dtry_: yes, nv is nvidia
[06:44] <dtry_> ic
[06:44] <dtry_> ill try that
[06:44] <tritium> HermanDE: which module?
[06:44] <Psykus> should I just reboot?
[06:44] <HermanDE> tritium: the fglrx (ATI) drivers...  and the x600/x800
[06:45] <tritium> HermanDE: have you tracked down the cause?
[06:45] <melaren> hermanDE: I can't tell with the normal usage because I'm not using the same hardware.  ...but I noticed that it is using the 2.13.91 version of gnome, so are all of the gnome speed improvements implemented?
[06:45] <mustard5> Psykus, its worth a try :)
[06:45] <Installer36> Psylus have you tried this out   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=337513
[06:45] <cafuego> The ATI drivers are supposedly broken (in dapper) atm.
[06:45] <tritium> HermanDE: are you running dapper?
[06:45] <dtry_> ok
[06:46] <HermanDE> tritium: Yep....  HP contributed improvements in Sept for x600.... ATI is just now thinking about x800 for linux.....  Not in time for breezy.....
[06:46] <dtry_> it asking me how much memory to be used by my vid card
[06:46] <HermanDE> tritium: Nope....  Not this time....
[06:46] <dtry_> i have a 64mb geforce
[06:46] <tritium> HermanDE: ok
[06:46] <dtry_> so how much you think should i put?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> dtry_: so say 64MB I guess
[06:46] <cafuego> HermanDE: Not in time for dapper, you mean?
[06:46] <dtry_> i think i should leave it blank
[06:47] <cafuego> dtry_: Like the previous screen said, don't enter anything, just hit return.
[06:47] <pmanager> hi there!
[06:47] <HermanDE> cafuego: Breezy...  Nother conversation....
[06:47] <lnc> Now I know DVDs have eevil encryption, but isnt this a fairly basic thing?  shouldnt it just work?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> dtry_: you can always re-run the command if it doesn't work
[06:47] <pmanager> is there any mods here?
[06:47] <cafuego> lnc: You'll want to install 'libdvdcss'
[06:47] <cafuego> !dvdcss
[06:47] <thoreauputic> pmanager: yes, we are hiding :)
[06:47] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[06:48] <HermanDE> lnc: Nope....  It's not an official player.....  Try VLC   :)
[06:48] <thoreauputic> pmanager: what's the trouble?
[06:48] <melaren>  In Dapper Flight 4, Gnome 2.13.91 is being used, so are all of the gnome speed improvements implemented?
[06:49] <tritium> melaren: /topic
[06:49] <HermanDE> melaren: I think everybody is looking for the answer....  But in this case, we have to wait a few more weeks for a true answer....
[06:49] <chris12349> hey if anyone is interested I fixed the ugly gtk icons and themes by doing this: sudo ln -s ~/.themes /root/.themes
[06:49] <chris12349> sudo ln -s ~/.icons /root/.icons
[06:49] <pmanager> thoreauputic: I sent you a pm
[06:49] <melaren> HermanDE: Oh, ic. Thanks.
[06:50] <lnc> cafuego, Ive installed libdvdcss
[06:50] <thoreauputic> pmanager: not received
[06:50] <lnc> HermanDE, VLC wont open the disc
[06:50] <thoreauputic> pmanager: are you registered?
[06:50] <dtry_> aight
[06:50] <dtry_> let me try to reboot this toy
[06:50] <pmanager> thoreauputic: ouch! nope... how do i do that?
[06:50] <HermanDE> lnc: Do you have an alias pointing /dev/hd? to /dev/dvd?
[06:51] <thoreauputic> pmanager:  /msg nickserv register <password>
[06:51] <thoreauputic> pmanager: IIRC
[06:51] <oatis> How to you toggle between Desktops?
[06:51] <oatis> in Gnome
[06:51] <thoreauputic> oatis: ctrl-alt- arrow
[06:52] <lnc> HermanDE, yep, dvd points to scd0
[06:52] <dtry_> lol
[06:52] <oatis> Coolness, thanks
[06:52] <dtry_> didn't work
[06:52] <dtry_> have to rerun it
[06:53] <thoreauputic> dtry_: try the vesa driver then
[06:53] <wastrel> angband is complicated
[06:53] <dtry_> what is vesa anyway?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> at least that can get you going
[06:53] <HermanDE> lnc: in vlc do you have the dvd device pointing to dvd or scd0?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> dtry_: sort of generic
[06:53] <Psykus> i'm just going to reboot now, that will probably fix it
[06:53] <dtry_> ic
[06:53] <dtry_> its downloading packages
[06:54] <pmanager> thoreauputic: am i registered already?
[06:54] <dtry_> it downloads by itself
[06:54] <dtry_> after the error
[06:54] <HermanDE> dtry_: video electronic standards association  (I think....  From the VESA-LB days...:-
[06:54] <dtry_> ic
[06:54] <pmanager> thoreauputic: what's IIRC?
[06:54] <pbransford> can I pipe output from one program directly into a .bz2 file?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> pmanager: doesn't look like it - try  /masg nickserv help
[06:55] <normal1> anyone know a good proxifer
[06:55] <HermanDE> pbransford: Welcome to the world of bash....  YES....
[06:55] <thoreauputic> IIRC + if I remember correctly
[06:55] <normal1> for linux of course
[06:55] <bad_iNFO> am i better off running nvidia's drivers or the one's that come with ubuntu?
[06:55] <pmanager> thoreauputic: ok.. now i got it
[06:55] <dtry_> i thought it was something related to IRC
[06:55] <HermanDE> normal1: a what?
[06:55] <dtry_> like the internet chat relay
[06:55] <dtry_> or relay chat even
[06:56] <normal1> something that alows my programs to run through proxies
[06:56] <wastrel> proxy server?
[06:56] <pbransford> HermanDE: ok, im gona be running tcpdump all night, and i see how i can have it output to the console instead of to a file. what should I pipe it to to output the stream into a compressed bz2 file?
[06:56] <pmanager> thoreauputic: I sent you a pm again... see it now?
[06:56] <bad_iNFO> what's the command for listing the channels again?
[06:56] <cafuego> bad_iNFO: if you need accelerated 3D, use the nvidia ones.
[06:56] <thoreauputic> pmanager: yep
[06:56] <normal1> =\
[06:56] <HermanDE> pbransford: Best choice is to pipe it into a tar....  bzip uses chunks...  tar is for streaming....
[06:57] <pbransford> ok, but isn't tar low compression?
[06:57] <nicholaspaul> got a Q: about wifi - if I can connect to the router + other computers on the network, but cant get past the network, is that usually a 'settings' thing or a prob. with the drivers/wifi adapter?
[06:57] <pmanager> thoreauputic: cool! ... will talk to you there, thanks!
[06:57] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, which channels?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> bad_iNFO:  /list - but don't do it unless you want to see thousands of channels :)
[06:57] <cafuego> pbransford: tar doesn't compress at all.
[06:57] <bad_iNFO> lol
[06:57] <HermanDE> pbransford: Sure that is where you use gzip.....
[06:57] <normal1> so no one knows ?
[06:57] <pbransford> basically what i have so far is: "tcpdump -i ath0 -w - |"
[06:57] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, ah ok..I see now
[06:57] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  you may not have your gateway set correctly - or the router is blocking you
[06:57] <bad_iNFO> i want to find a non formal room that would help with more then just ubunto
[06:57] <cafuego> HermanDE: Why bother with tar at all?
[06:58] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  settings, in other words
[06:58] <HermanDE> cafuego: chunking verses streaming.....
[06:58] <interferon> apt-get doesn't seem to confirm before installing packages - can this be configured?
[06:58] <nicholaspaul> wastrel: ok i'll try it out. :-) That helps me know what to blame !!
[06:58] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, #linux ?
[06:58] <pbransford> HermanDE: if it matters the program output is buffered (data comes out in bursts)
[06:59] <bad_iNFO> when something says non free linux does that mean u have to pay for it or is the free talking aboutsomething else?
[06:59] <wastrel> #linuxhelp
[06:59] <bad_iNFO> thanks
[06:59] <HermanDE> pbransford: Sure....   Then just pipe it through bzip... or tar...  or compress or .....
[06:59] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, no..you don't have to pay for it
[06:59] <nicholaspaul> bad_iNFO: well there is linux software you can buy. Some distros arent free too
[06:59] <pbransford> ok... can you give me a command line?
[06:59] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, you talking about from the repositories?
[07:00] <bad_iNFO> yes
[07:00] <Madpilot> bad_iNFO, non-free usually means that the sourcecode isn't free to modify/etc - stuff like Adobe's Acrobat Reader
[07:00] <dtry_> what xorg?
[07:00] <dtry_> is*
[07:00] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, I think its to do with whether the source is 'free'
[07:00] <dtry_> SuSE 10 is not free
[07:00] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, there is free as in beer and free as in free speech..is a analogy that is often used
[07:01] <mustard5> bad_iNFO, free as in free beer I meant to say
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> beer should be liberated....
[07:01] <mustard5> :)
[07:01] <HermanDE> pbransford: (not tested)  tcpdump -i ath0 -w - | tar -cf streamout.out
[07:01] <random0ne> hello.  Is there any way to dynamically set forwarders in bind9 based on resolv.conf (nameservers are assigned via dhcp)?
[07:01] <nicholaspaul> wastrel: where can i get Gateway settings? isnt it usually 255.255.255.0 ?
[07:02] <HermanDE> pbransford: or just use the tcpdump -w switch.....
[07:02] <random0ne> nicholaspaul: that is a netmask
[07:02] <random0ne> nicholaspaul: gateway is often assigned by dhcp. usually it is IP of the router
[07:02] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  what random0ne said :] 
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> wastrel: ahh gotcha, random0ne :D
[07:03] <scelestus> does my router have to be set to channel 11?
[07:03] <dtry_> thoreauputic, what was the command again?
[07:03] <HermanDE> pbransford: do you know what you are looking for?
[07:03] <nicholaspaul> wastrel: random0ne should the ip address be put in the list of DNS servers too?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> dtry_:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:04] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  try putting the router's address there
[07:04] <pbransford> HErmanDE: would this work: "tcpdump -i ath0 -w - | gzip > dump.gz"
[07:04] <gregben> Just installed edubuntu 5.10 Video is 1280x1024 @76Hz. but should be 60Hz. because LCD. Also, card is accelerated OpenGL yet display is very sluggish.
[07:04] <dtry_> k
[07:04] <nicholaspaul> wastrel:  in the DNS server list?
[07:05] <pbransford> HermanDE: "echo "TEST" | gzip > test.gz && gzip -d -c test.gz" gave me the impression that it might work... I got "TEST" back as output
[07:05] <mustard5> gregben, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[07:05] <HermanDE> pbransford: gzip doesn't have a stdin option.....
[07:05] <pbransford> Doesn't need it :)
[07:05] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  if you have dns servers from your ISP it's not necessary - if not, the router may do dns ... mine does
[07:05] <gregben> mustard5: THX, I'll look now.
[07:05] <pbransford> try that echo command out
[07:06] <scelestus> wastrel:  does my router have to be set to channel 11?
[07:06] <nicholaspaul> aah gotcha. I'll try both, cos i was having trouble with repos wastrel
[07:06] <robbies> gregben: WE DONT NEED YOU BEING RUDE IN #EDUBUNTU
[07:06] <kuja> ?
[07:07] <wastrel> scelestus:  i really don't know anything about wireless config - mine just worked with no messing around (thank goodness)
[07:07] <nicholaspaul> thx for the help wastrel :)
[07:07] <tritium> robbies: please take it easy
[07:07] <HermanDE> pbransford: What are you looking for in your dump?
[07:07] <kuja> What was up with that?
[07:07] <scelestus> wastrel:  hmm...it keeps saying nodchpoffers
[07:07] <dtry_> thoreauputic, after that, how do you restart X?
[07:08] <mustard5> dtry_, startx
[07:08] <thoreauputic> dtry_: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart  ( or startx)
[07:08] <tritium> or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[07:09] <robbies> HELP! SOMEONE CHANGED THE TOPIC TO SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE FOR CHILDREN ON #EDUBUNTU
[07:09] <pbransford> HermanDE: nothing right now, i'm going to filter and such later...
[07:09] <mustard5> robbies, type !ops in that channel
[07:09] <wastrel> yuck
[07:09] <morfeo_> hola
[07:09] <robbies> THERE ARE NONE!
[07:09] <morfeo_> espaol??
[07:09] <tritium> robbies: please stop!
[07:09] <wastrel> !es
[07:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:10] <morfeo_> ok
[07:10] <HermanDE> pbransford: If you use tcpdump -w then you can easily use tcpdump to parse the results without grepping.....
[07:10] <pbransford> HermanDE, i dont want tcpdump to parse. i need the raw packets :)
[07:10] <tritium> robbies: never mind...sorrry
[07:10] <tritium> sorry even
[07:11] <pbransford> HermanDE, and i can use ethereal to parse later as well
[07:11] <pbransford> i just got it working i think
[07:11] <random0ne> hello.  Is there any way to dynamically set forwarders in bind9 based on resolv.conf? (The resolv.conf nameservers are assigned via dhcp.)
[07:12] <HermanDE> pbransford: And that's where the -w kicks into high gear......
[07:12] <pbransford> nevermind, gzip chokes on unexpected EOF if I ctrl-C tcpdump
[07:13] <HermanDE> pbransford: Hey look at that.....  chunking...  :)
[07:13] <pbransford> i was just trying to compress the dump on-the-fly
[07:13] <pbransford> i suppose if i send the tcpdump the term signal rather than the whole pipe it _might_ work?
[07:13] <HermanDE> pbransford: Then use star with bzip.....  star is a faster tar....  Think supertar.
[07:14] <pbransford> cause ctrl-c will kill gzip too, right?
[07:14] <HermanDE> pbransford: I'd guess that's correct....
[07:14] <pbransford> hmm, worth further exploration but i need to sleep. work tomorrow :)
[07:14] <HermanDE> pbransford: You need a streaming compression system.....
[07:14] <pbransford> i got the HD space, i guess I'll just deal with it
[07:14] <HermanDE> pbransford: Could always mpeg it....
[07:15] <pbransford> lol
[07:15] <pbransford> mmm lossy packet dump
[07:15] <blanky> hey guys
[07:15] <pbransford> well i gota go, going into monitor mode will boot me rather ungracefully
[07:15] <HermanDE> pbransford: You would be amazed as to how ffmpeg can compress...
[07:15] <interferon> is it safe to add debian-unstable as a repository in ubuntu?
[07:15] <Madpilot> interferon, probably not
[07:16] <HermanDE> interferon: Nothing is safe....  Disconnect your computer now....
[07:16] <pbransford> thanks for the help though HermanDE
[07:16] <HermanDE> pbransford: np....
[07:16] <pbransford> if i get it all figured out i'll try to remember to let you know
[07:16] <blanky> i instlaled kubuntu-desktop, and when it asked me if i wanted to use kdm or gdm, i said gdm, but now I'd like to use kdm, is there a way to change?
[07:17] <random0ne> hello.  Is there any way to dynamically set forwarders in bind9 based on resolv.conf? (The resolv.conf nameservers are assigned via dhcp.)
[07:17] <pbransford> ... i know! convert the signal to PCM data, flac it, and when ready to read it pass it from PCM back to data
[07:17] <pbransford> hehe
[07:17] <HermanDE> pbransford: Actually, flac might be a good solution....  Just don't listen to it...
[07:18] <pbransford> lol
[07:18] <pbransford> Audio compression turned data compression. that would raise a few eyebrows
[07:18] <pbransford> hmmm if i input it as raw data i won't even need conversion
[07:18] <pbransford> flacenc will take "raw" audio, won't it?
[07:19] <HermanDE> pbransford: Good compression algos are good algos...  Who cares if it's audio, video, porn...  Numbers are still numbers....
[07:19] <pbransford> arg! stop thinking! must sleep!
[07:19] <pbransford> Hehe see you around sometime
[07:19] <HermanDE> pbransford: I haven't tried...  I did try the mpeg stuff.....  Made some good artwork out of a tape dump....
[07:20] <whyMan> hello all
[07:20] <HermanDE> whyMan: All told me to say "hello"
[07:26] <whyMan> pls hekp me.. i want to connect my linux to novell server, pls guide me
[07:26] <random0ne> hello.  Is there any way to dynamically set forwarders in bind9 based on resolv.conf? (The resolv.conf nameservers are assigned via dhcp.)
[07:26] <HermanDE> whyMan: Which version of novell?
[07:27] <whyMan> vovell 3.12
[07:27] <Frogzoo> is there a repo with a more recent gimp than 2.2.8 ?
[07:27] <whyMan> novel 3.12
[07:27] <HermanDE> random0ne: Just a thought....  Try and use dnsmasq
[07:27] <seth|away> Frogzoo, Dapper has .10-1ubuntu2
[07:27] <whyMan> Hermande : Novell Netware 3.12
[07:28] <dtry_> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[07:28] <dtry_>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[07:28] <HermanDE> whyMan: Ok, why do you want to connect to that?  It really is over 10 years old.....
[07:28] <dtry_> any ideas?
[07:28] <dtry_> sorry for the paste
[07:28] <random0ne> HermanDE: heh.  yeah, i was using it...but it doesn't support the features that i wanted.
[07:29] <HermanDE> random0ne: then make a script in your dhclient to update/restart your bind....  There are probably better ways...  But this will kill the cat real good....
[07:29] <GullyFoyle>     /window grow 6
[07:29] <whyMan> HermanDE : u right, we still use that version for old apllication (DBASE), the server is as file server too
[07:30] <random0ne> HermanDE: i thought about a post-up script in /etc/network/interfaces, but i was hoping there was a prefab way
[07:30] <delmar> Hrm. I would have thought that after installing the Nvidia drivers and such, that I would be able to change the resolution.  The Display subsections are in the xorg.conf ok... but still I can only use 640x480 :(
[07:30] <HermanDE> whyMan: eewww....  Uh....  The last time I connected to an IPX server was years ago....  you need to load the IPX module and the novell utils.....
[07:31] <HermanDE> random0ne: the post up will only work when you connect...  Not when the dhcp refreshes.....
[07:31] <Frogzoo> seth|away: thx - I'll give it a go
[07:31] <madewokherd> I have a video card with tv in
[07:31] <random0ne> HermanDE: excellent to know.  thank you.
[07:32] <madewokherd> what sort of program should I be looking for to watch tv?
[07:32] <HermanDE> madewokherd: mplayer.....
[07:32] <HermanDE> madewokherd: xawtv
[07:33] <HermanDE> whyMan: Just a thought....  Do you have ftp access?
[07:34] <blanky> yafray with blender is good at crashing lol
[07:34] <sesq> Hello, I  have got problem while installing EsounD, after 'make' i have error:
[07:34] <dtry_> how do update from ubuntu site to see if you have updates available for downloads?
[07:34] <sesq> esd.h:292: error: syntax error before 'AFfilehandle'
[07:35] <hanasaki> i am having trouble gettting firefox to work through esd..
[07:35] <robbie_> hi, does the ubuntu default apache setup have virtualhosts installed?
[07:35] <robbie_> if so wheres the default virtualhost defined
[07:36] <delmar> I can understand why ubunto might be unhappy running in more than 640x480 before I setup and install the nvidia drivers, but does anyone know what the story is with changing the resolution once thats all done? the Screen REs prefs still only allows 640x480 :(
[07:40] <sdfzx> how can i put a http proxy here in my ubuntu?
[07:40] <Frogzoo> ok, how stable is dapper these days - I might have to make the jump from breezy...
[07:41] <Frogzoo> sdfzx: maybe just install apache & enable proxy module?
[07:42] <manils> what it dew
[07:42] <tritium> sdfzx: you want to set a proxy for y our clients?
[07:43] <random0ne> HermanDE: heh.  looks like resolvconf package has a script to update bind
[07:43] <HermanDE> random0ne: Like I said....  Will kill the cat....
[07:43] <daidungsi> hello
[07:43] <HermanDE> hello....
[07:44] <daidungsi> how to install file .gz
[07:44] <daidungsi> how to install a program ?
[07:44] <suryam>   
[07:44] <Frogzoo> daidungsi: probly just gunzip & read the README
[07:44] <hanasaki> where can i find a codec to play .asx?
[07:44] <suryam> hanasaki: mplayerhq.hu
[07:45] <delmar> hanasaki, porn :)
[07:45] <whyMan> hermanDE : ftp access ?? why ??
[07:45] <daidungsi> how to install a program ?
[07:45] <delmar> daidungsi, the package manager?
[07:45] <hanasaki> is that what it is? dam.. someone asked me to get it isntalled.
[07:45] <delmar> daidungsi, what program?
[07:45] <hanasaki> thought mplayer was nerim.net?
[07:45] <suryam> hanasaki: no
[07:45] <daidungsi> a file have extension .gz
[07:46] <mikebot> does anyone know why my school email account is in it's own folder in thunderbird, but my other email accounts are not?
[07:46] <daidungsi> can you tell more detail ?
[07:46] <delmar> daidungsi, what program
[07:46] <suryam> hanasaki: most/all windoze codecs mplayer can handle, just get codecs from mplayerhq.hu
[07:46] <hanasaki> hmm what is at nerim?
[07:46] <suryam> hanasaki: never heard of nerim
[07:46] <hanasaki> ok.. what is the deb line in sources
[07:47] <HermanDE> whyMan: It's easier to connect to ftp than novell file shares....
[07:47] <delmar> yay. ubuntu been running 1hr and desktop/Xorg crashing nicely.
[07:47] <eng> hi, is there a simple way to test if xgl is running?
[07:47] <suryam> eng: glxgears?
[07:47] <Frogzoo> delmar: which vid card?
[07:47] <eng> oh that works
[07:47] <delmar> Frogzoo, 6600
[07:48] <eng> does compiz require xgl?
[07:49] <hanasaki> hmm so what is the line in sources for the repository at mplayerhq
[07:49] <whyMan> HermanDE : the problem is, the document (doc & xls) is in novell right now, but i need to connect,
[07:50] <sdfzx> tritium,  i want to hide my IP using http proxy
[07:50] <overrider> say i have connected to a smb share and am able to view the files there. now in thunderbird i want to attach a file which is on that share. how can i select it as an attachment?
[07:50] <sdfzx> how can i make it?
[07:50] <robbie_> interesting...sites-enabled has symlinks to sites-available.. never seen that setup before
[07:50] <Frogzoo> !tell delmar about nvidia
[07:50] <HermanDE> whyMan: bad stuff.....
[07:50] <delmar> OK this is driving me insane. Why can't I change the freakin resolution from 640x480 !
[07:50] <mikebot> does anyone know what program this is: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=26980&file1=26980-1.jpg&file2=26980-2.png&file3=26980-3.png&name=Water+Vapor
[07:51] <Frogzoo> !tell delmar about xorg
[07:51] <wastrel> mikebot:  looks like rhythmbox (?)
[07:51] <delmar> Frogzoo, thank you very much but I did all the nvidia stuff and it is loading accordingly.
[07:51] <Frogzoo> hmm...
[07:51] <mikebot> wastrel: why does everyone hate rythymbox then? it looks very good
[07:51] <sdfzx> i luv xmms
[07:52] <wastrel> mikebot:  i dunno :] 
[07:52] <delmar> Frogzoo, and I fail to see how doing a reconfig on Xorg will help.. the Display subsections look find in xorg.conf
[07:52] <delmar> Frogzoo, but im gonna try a reconf anyway... just a sec
[07:52] <mikebot> i cna;'t find a good theme
[07:52] <HermanDE> whyMan: Check out the ncpfs module in the kernel....
[07:52] <wastrel> delmar:  your modes for your monitor may not be correct...
[07:53] <Frogzoo> !tell delmar about refresh
[07:53] <deepwoodz> i have a problem guys that i need some help on
[07:53] <Frogzoo> !helpme
[07:53] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:53] <deepwoodz> lol id o
[07:54] <deepwoodz> okay my gnome terminal got uninstalled
[07:54] <sdfzx> :(
[07:54] <sdfzx> pls help
[07:54] <deepwoodz> so i cant i cant reinstall it
[07:54] <delmar> wastrel, it detected it all fine but could be... but if that were the case.. the modes that are in the Xorg.conf would work.. it would just trash the screen... they are not even working yet are in xorg.conf... ie ctrl-alt- +/- not working.. and the system prefs thing wont allow it either
[07:54] <deepwoodz> cuz i dont have a terminal
[07:54] <sdfzx> i want to use proxy so that i can surf anonymously
[07:54] <clever`rev> ctrl+alt+f1 to get out of the x server
[07:54] <sdfzx> pls help
[07:54] <clever`rev> alt+f7 to get bacl
[07:54] <XpCrash> how do i get wine to emulate windows 2k
[07:54] <clever`rev> when out of the x server you can run cmds in console mode
[07:55] <Frogzoo> sdfzx: you need to find an open anonymous proxy & point your browser at it - this isn't really an ubuntu problem...
[07:55] <Frogzoo> XpCrash: winecfg
[07:55] <XpCrash> in shell
[07:55] <delmar> Frogzoo, ok here we go... i can never remember this part... select desired X server... "nv" or "nvidia".
[07:55] <wastrel> deepwoodz:  in gnome alt-f2 will get a "run" dialog box.  type xterm there
[07:55] <deepwoodz> iok
[07:55] <deepwoodz> thanx
[07:55] <wastrel> er, ctrl-f2
[07:56] <sdfzx> i mean how can i put a proxy
[07:56] <XpCrash> thinks its a bad idea to emu xp or no
[07:56] <sdfzx> im new in ubuntu
[07:56] <deepwoodz> damn it ur a lifesaver
[07:56] <delmar> Frogzoo, im thinking nvidia huh?
[07:56] <deepwoodz> tahnx man
[07:56] <wastrel> no it was alt-f2 heh
[07:56] <wastrel> yw
[07:56] <Frogzoo> delmar: dunno, sorry - check the wiki best
[07:58] <deepwoodz> damn i should of just came in here earlier i been foolin with this shit all day
[07:58] <deepwoodz> but i was tryin to learn on my own
[07:58] <sdfzx> is there a firewall in ubuntu?
[07:58] <whyMan> HermanDE : WhyMan : Check out the ncpfs module in the kernel.. <------i'am the newbie, how to check ???
[07:58] <deepwoodz> okay next question while im here
[07:58] <rikai> sdfzx, install firestarter
[07:58] <wastrel> deepwoodz:  xterm is installed with the X server, so should always be available.
[07:58] <deepwoodz> i  can emulator my xbox360 controller driver right since there is none for linux (that i know of)
[07:59] <deepwoodz> o
[07:59] <deepwoodz> i didtn know that
[07:59] <XpCrash> my hardware sucks so should i set the direct 3d to emulate if i want half life to run good
[07:59] <deepwoodz> just started messin with linux
[07:59] <sdfzx> okies
[07:59] <mikebot> does anyone know why ubuntu is lagger than ym windows is?
[07:59] <sdfzx> thanks rikai
[07:59] <XpCrash> or just leave it at 3d
[07:59] <XpCrash> or hardware rather
[08:00] <iceman> i need help. my sound does not work in et ?
[08:00] <iceman> et --- Enemy terratory ?
[08:01] <HermanDE> whyMan: you might need to do a bit of reading......
[08:01] <iceman> !et
[08:01] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iceman
[08:01] <iceman> !enemy terratory
[08:01] <ubotu> iceman: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:02] <iceman> why does my sound work normaly, but not in Enemy territory
[08:02] <XpCrash> can i get yahoo to work with wine , i like gaim but all the yahoo options arent there and sending files doesnt work
[08:03] <concept10> iceman, there is a thread about it in the forums
[08:03] <iceman> concept10 got a link
[08:04] <concept10> iceman, ubuntuforums.com ... search for enemy territory
[08:05] <celenk> is it possible that the mysterious mplayer process that I can't kill is the cause for my no sound in any other program?
[08:05] <Madpilot> iceman, before you start ET, open a terminal and type "killall esd", then start ET - that usually works for me
[08:05] <ichigo-san> i need help setting up a fserve. when xchat tries to load the plugin i get msg that says "Error loading '/home/onizuka/.xchat2/obsidian+.pl':
[08:05] <ichigo-san> Can't locate Devel/Cycle.pm "
[08:05] <wastrel> celenk:  it is possible
[08:06] <iceman> ty that did the trick ..
[08:06] <celenk> wastrel, do you have any idea how I can kill it?  I've tried kill 8184  killall mplayer  killall -i mplayer (then Y) both in root, and sudo'ing the commands
[08:07] <patrix> try kill -9
[08:07] <wastrel> yeah what patrix said.  kill -9 <pid>
[08:07] <wastrel> it is the "no really, kill it" option
[08:08] <celenk> patrix, wastrel, wow that worked, good option to know, why isn't that listed in the man?
[08:08] <overrider> when you are accessing a samba share , it seems not possible to attach a file from there to an email you are creating with thunderbird, cause when you click add attachment, there is nowhere to select the share from the add attachment dialog. any ideas how to do?
[08:08] <patrix> it isnt'!?!?!?
[08:09] <topyli> sure it is
[08:09] <celenk> hmm, maybe I missed it then
[08:09] <topyli> it's one of the signals
[08:10] <wastrel> it's short for -KILL
[08:11] <whoope> whats the command i can do to check hard drive size and how much is left i'm new to linux :/
[08:12] <trpr42> whoope: you can type df -h at the prompt
[08:13] <mikebot> not that i have linux, what are some cool things i can do?
[08:13] <whoope> trpr42 thanks that worked
[08:13] <mikebot> *now
[08:14] <XpCrash> how can i get wine to make it so internet explorer is version 6
[08:14] <mikebot> anyone?
[08:15] <wastrel> mikebot:  you can run all the programs in synaptic
[08:15] <Madpilot> mikebot, you can not get viruses :)
[08:15] <mikebot> wastrel: but that requires browsing 17,000 files
[08:15] <h3ax> ..
[08:15] <mikebot> madheh, how do i do that?
[08:15] <GeorgeAScott> i've got a 40g hd that is formatted ntfs.  i've read about the projects... but is there a way to reformat it and delete everything on it?
[08:16] <Madpilot> GeorgeAScott, of course, if you don't want any of the stuff on it
[08:16] <wastrel> mikebot:  well what do you want to do with your computer?
[08:16] <mikebot> oh i have a question like that too: i have files i need to access on an ntfs partition, and i copied them onto this partition, but theya re still read-only
[08:16] <mikebot> wastrel: i don't know, i don't relaly play games
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: i do want a note thingy like yahoo widgets has
[08:17] <topyli> GeorgeAScott: i'd delete the whole partition with fdisk, create and format a new one
[08:17] <GeorgeAScott> im in the process of backing it all up now.... what do i do to reformat it then?
[08:17] <wastrel> mikebot:  another thing to do is search freshmeat for interesting programs and then check if they're in synaptic
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: but the one that comes with this is very ugly
[08:17] <Madpilot> mikebot, install TomBoy, it's a cool little notetaking app
[08:17] <mikebot> wastrel: what is freshmeat?
[08:17] <mikebot> Madpilot: okay, thanks
[08:17] <thoreauputic> mikebot: or just use the search function in syanaptic...
[08:17] <thoreauputic> *synaptic
[08:18] <wastrel> mikebot:  freshmeat.net  - place where new apps are announced
[08:18] <thoreauputic> mike4263: or indeed  apt-cache search keyword
[08:18] <mikebot> wastrel: ah okay
[08:18] <wastrel> i'm trying to figure out pymol myself
[08:18] <mikebot> Madpilot: oh, when i said notes, i meant like
[08:18] <B_166-ER-X> whats the command to force the trash to empty ?
[08:19] <mikebot> Madpilot: postit notes, like reminders, a to-do list type thing
[08:19] <Madpilot> mikebot, you can use tomboy for that - I use it for all sorts of things
[08:19] <mikebot> Madpilot: ah, okay
[08:19] <delmar> So I just installed samba on here...I dont see any ubuntu front end to configuring the samba settings.. is there? or do we just edit smb.conf or use "swat" etc..?
[08:19] <mikebot> also, do you guys know why ubuntu seems really laggy compared to my windows?
[08:20] <topyli> mikebot: there's also a panel apple for old-style sticky notes for your desktop
[08:20] <topyli> applet even
[08:20] <Madpilot> mikebot, after you install tomboy, it's got a panel applet you can add, to get to it faster
[08:20] <mikebot> okay
[08:20] <mikebot> do you guys know how to make the applications and places and system folders on my panel smaller, or eliminate one?
[08:21] <wastrel> mikebot:  firefox on breezy is slow - if you upgrade to 1.5 it is much faster.   dunno about other performance issues
[08:21] <Madpilot> mike4263, the menu titles, you mean?
[08:21] <mikebot> upgrade what to 1.5?
[08:21] <h3ax> anyone good with FTP, internet, Vmware ?
[08:21] <thoreauputic> mike4263: you can make the panel smaller by right click - properties
[08:21] <wastrel> mikebot:  upgrade firefox to 1.5
[08:21] <kosachev> Hi , i install wmaker on my Ubuntu and can't create new  user window .. anybody know solve ?
[08:22] <thoreauputic> mike4263: most applets can be removed and added - same deal, right click
[08:22] <mikebot> do i upgrade it via synaptic
[08:22] <jieying> how to upgrade firefox
[08:22] <thoreauputic> bah those were for mikebot
[08:22] <thoreauputic> sorry
[08:22] <wastrel> mikebot:  unfortunately not
[08:22] <wastrel> !ff1.5
[08:22] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:22] <kosachev> !ff1.5
[08:22] <jieying> thanks
[08:23] <wastrel> kosachev:  did you install wmaker with apt?
[08:23] <h3ax> .. well i have a series of problems .. 1. PureAdmin claims to be "PureFTPd not running" 2. Outside connection to the DHCP address VMware has generated is refused by what i dont know
[08:24] <shukhrat> hi all i would like re-install my MySQL(actually MySQL not installed ask depends) i tryed install MySQL but still no result
[08:24] <kosachev> wastrel, yes , i'm install it from sudo apt-get install wmaker
[08:24] <mikebot> wastrel: thanks for the guide, i'm following it now, brb
[08:24] <wastrel> !synaptic
[08:24] <ubotu> I guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:24] <Madpilot> !tell shukhrat about lamp
[08:25] <shukhrat> Madpilot it not work i tryed
[08:25] <wastrel> kosachev:  and the new user error - when does that appear?
[08:26] <Madpilot> shukhrat, which part didn't work?
[08:26] <shukhrat> when i type sudo apt-get install mysql server 4.1 it say like this ...
[08:27] <kosachev> wastrel, i think you don't understand me - i can't create new workspace in wmaker
[08:27] <jieying> #ubuntu-zh irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-zh
[08:27] <shukhrat> shukhrat@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[08:27] <shukhrat> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <shukhrat> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:27] <shukhrat> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[08:27] <shukhrat> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[08:27] <shukhrat> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[08:27] <shukhrat> or been moved out of Incoming.
[08:27] <shukhrat> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[08:27] <shukhrat> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[08:27] <shukhrat> that package should be filed.
[08:27] <shukhrat> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[08:27] <shukhrat> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:27] <shukhrat>   mysql-server-4.1: Depends: mysql-common-4.1 (>= 4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not installable
[08:27] <shukhrat>                     Depends: mysql-client-4.1 (>= 4.1.12-1ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[08:27] <shukhrat>                     Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable
[08:27] <wastrel> kosachev:  oic.
[08:27] <shukhrat> E: Broken packages
[08:29] <Kevin> hey
[08:29] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, gah, should have de-voiced, not kicked...
[08:29] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: too late :)
[08:29] <wastrel> kosachev:  i haven't used windowmaker for a long time.   the new workspace menu option does nothing?
[08:29] <Kevin> i gota question for you guys
[08:29] <purplefeltangel> kevin: ask away
[08:30] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, still getting used to XChat...
[08:30] <Kevin> i just installed ubuntu on a dying, 4 yearold laptop
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I guess he'll return...
[08:30] <Kevin> and when i use the touchpad, the motion is jerky
[08:30] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I have a couple of aliases set up
[08:30] <shukhrat> Madpilot Thanks !
[08:30] <Kevin> it jerks every 4seconds or so
[08:30] <kosachev> wastrel, monitor blinking , but no new workspace appears.
[08:30] <Kevin> any ideas on how to fix it?
[08:30] <Kevin> a usb mouse works fine...
[08:30] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: don't paste any more please
[08:30] <Madpilot> shukhrat, next time, don't paste to channel, use a pastebin
[08:31] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:31] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:31] <shukhrat> Madpilot maybe i should re-install Ubuntu ?
[08:31] <wastrel> kosachev:  you mean no new workspace appears in the workspaces menu?
[08:31] <Madpilot> shukhrat, pastebin your error so we can see it
[08:31] <shukhrat> pastebin what is this ?
[08:31] <kosachev> wastrel, yes , and no access from alt+digit
[08:32] <timfrost> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[08:33] <thoreauputic> shukhrat seems to be having a few IRC problems here ;-)
[08:33] <kosachev> wastrel, may i debug this error - how to enable debug mode with wmaker ?
[08:33] <shukhrat> :O
[08:33] <wastrel> kosachev:  i don't know.
[08:33] <dtry_> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[08:33] <dtry_>       after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
[08:33] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: you paste your errors on the URL uboto gave, then tell us what it is
[08:33] <dtry_> any ideas?
[08:33] <jb1> anybody successfully using a USB scanner in dapper?
[08:34] <Madpilot> shukhrat, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:34] <concept10> jb1, my hp all in one works
[08:34] <Madpilot> shukhrat, then paste ONLY THE URL back here
[08:35] <h3ax> no one able to help out with any of this
[08:35] <h3ax> ?
[08:35] <jb1> Madpilot: I have an Epson 2450 that gives me a preview but refuses to scan.
[08:35] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: unless of course you enjoy being kicked or gagged ;-)
[08:35] <IroeL> hi room.. can you help me..?
[08:35] <shukhrat> thoreauputic thanks !
[08:35] <Madpilot> jb1, I don't know anything about scanners, sorry
[08:35] <concept10> getting kicked the first time is fun
[08:35] <thoreauputic> IroeL: hard to say if you don't ask :)
[08:36] <IroeL> i've install php use synaptic package manager, and it works
[08:36] <IroeL> but, the php doesn't support mysql
[08:36] <patrix> install php-mysql or something like that
[08:36] <IroeL> so, what can i do? i want the php support with mysql
[08:36] <jb1> Madpilot: OK. I've googled and tried every trick on the net but I think this has to be resolved at the code level upstream
[08:36] <Madpilot> !scanners
[08:36] <ubotu> For scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:36] <delmar> Sorry, I asked this before but didn't notice a response... I can't see anything within ubuntu/xorg gui for configuring samba options/paramaters.. is there anything? or do we just edit smb.conf manually or use Swat.. to configure it?
[08:36] <Madpilot> jb1, see those pags ^^^
[08:37] <patrix> IroeL: install php-mysql or some similar package (not sure of the name in ubuntu)
[08:37] <jb1> Madpilot: thanks :)
[08:37] <timfrost> !tell IroeL -about lamp
[08:37] <thoreauputic> IroeL: install php4-mysql  (or php5-mysql if that's what you have )
[08:37] <shukhrat> who can help me ! please ! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9580
[08:37] <shukhrat> MySQL don't want install
[08:37] <robbie_> I got E: package mysql has no installation candidate
[08:37] <IroeL> patrix, but i'm in cybercafe now, so i just ssh to my server
[08:37] <thoreauputic> robbie_: see above
[08:38] <thoreauputic> robbie_: php4-mysql or php5-mysql
[08:38] <concept10> jb1, I think they have changed the printer drivers in dapper, I cant even get into xsane now. :(
[08:38] <robbie_> install php-mysql?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> ah or php4 etc of course
[08:38] <robbie_> ok
[08:38] <thoreauputic> robbie_: sorry got you mixed with IroeL
[08:38] <shukhrat> thoreauputic like this ?
[08:39] <h3ax> !tell h3ax -about lamp
[08:39] <wastrel> sigh, my vnc is b0rken
[08:39] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: like what?
[08:39] <shukhrat> who can help me ! please ! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9580
[08:39] <shukhrat> MySQL don't want install
[08:39] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: be patient, someone will look
[08:39] <TylerWalts> flog the dolphin
[08:39] <odat> anyone ever use dvdripper?
[08:40] <sdfzx> what is swap area?
[08:40] <concept10> too many drivers are being changed in the transistion from breezy to dapper... I hope its not a disaster
[08:40] <sdfzx> i partitioned my drive 1gb for swap area
[08:40] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: have you enabled the universe repo?
[08:40] <sdfzx> did i do the right thing? hehe
[08:40] <timfrost> !swap
[08:40] <ubotu> I heard swap is used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[08:40] <thoreauputic> !tell shukhrat about repositories
[08:41] <sdfzx> aw
[08:41] <wastrel> i can't connect to my vnc server, get   ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)
[08:41] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: read ubotu's /msg
[08:41] <sdfzx> so what is the ideal size for swap area?
[08:41] <wastrel> i've restarted the server, same problem --- any love?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: how much RAM do you have?
[08:41] <Vufer> hi all... i have just installl ubuntu, and... HOW CAN I LISTEN MY MP3???? :)
[08:42] <mylo> sdfzx, twice your RAM
[08:42] <shukhrat> thoreauputic i' am new in linux what is repositories
[08:42] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[08:42] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:42] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[08:42] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:42] <Madpilot> shukhrat, that's where apt-get installs software from
[08:42] <sdfzx> 256 sdram
[08:42] <sdfzx> aw
[08:42] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: read that URL
[08:42] <sdfzx> :(
[08:42] <mylo> sdfzx, half if you have > 8GB AFAIK
[08:42] <Vufer> but in oder distributives mp3 included...
[08:42] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: 500MB or so is plenty for swap
[08:43] <shukhrat> :)  !
[08:43] <thoreauputic> Vufer: read the URl and you will have mp3 playback
[08:43] <sdfzx> i used 1gb for swap area
[08:43] <sdfzx> hehe
[08:43] <dobblego> can you have one screen resolution setting per user?
[08:43] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: that's OK
[08:43] <sdfzx> then 2gb for the base sytem
[08:43] <sdfzx> i mean for ext3
[08:44] <sdfzx> is that ok?
[08:44] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: not really enough - a standard install takes about 1.8 GB
[08:44] <sdfzx> aw
[08:44] <Madpilot> sdfzx, you probably want a root partition of at least 5Gb
[08:45] <sdfzx> for ubuntu?
[08:45] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: I would give Ubuntu at least 5GB if you can - preferably more
[08:45] <sdfzx> aw
[08:45] <sdfzx> so i have to repartitioined again
[08:45] <overrider> when mounting a samba share using smbmount, how can i make it so a normal user can mount his samba share, not only root?
[08:45] <sdfzx> aw
[08:45] <sdfzx> is there anyway to repartition without formatting again?
[08:45] <sdfzx> so that my files wont be deleted
[08:45] <thoreauputic> sdfzx: and you don't really need 1GB swap - but it won't hurt to leave it at that
[08:46] <shukhrat> thoreauputic: thanks for your help; could you give me an example. I am very new to Linux, thanks!
[08:47] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: an example of a repository?
[08:47] <Vufer> sorry, but sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad don't working :(
[08:47] <shukhrat> yes
[08:47] <Madpilot> shukhrat,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[08:47] <Garlaxel> Quick Question whats the name of the base develop packer to install a sane build enviroment?
[08:47] <thoreauputic> Vufer: you need to enable repositories
[08:47] <Madpilot> Vufer, have you enabled the Universe repo?
[08:47] <Vufer> how i can do it?
[08:48] <Madpilot> Garlaxel, build-essential?
[08:48] <thoreauputic> shukhrat: just read the URl and you'll get an understanding
[08:48] <Madpilot> !tell Vufer about repos
[08:48] <Garlaxel> thanks mad.
[08:48] <Madpilot> np
[08:48] <thoreauputic> shukhrat:   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:48] <jetsirus> Anyone on here have a spare moment for some tech help? :)
[08:49] <sdfzx> waa
[08:49] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: that's what the channel is for - just ask
[08:49] <XpCrash> sudo apt-get install kde , will that work for kde desktop
[08:49] <sdfzx> i just installed ubuntu for learning purpose
[08:49] <thoreauputic> XpCrash:  install kubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <sdfzx> but now im starting to luv it
[08:49] <XpCrash> sudo
[08:50] <jetsirus> The problem:  Can run Synaptic Package Manager, Updater, Users and Groups and several other things.
[08:50] <sdfzx> huhu thats why i partitioned my disk  3gb only for ubuntu
[08:50] <sdfzx> ehehe
[08:50] <thoreauputic> XpCrash:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <sdfzx> i have a question again abut the sudo
[08:50] <jetsirus> They ask for a password once, and then do nothing after that.
[08:50] <sdfzx> do i have to logon as SU to install or just sudo alone
[08:50] <Madpilot> jetsirus, using your own user pw?
[08:50] <Madpilot> !sudo
[08:50] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:50] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: you give your user password?
[08:50] <jetsirus> Yes,
[08:51] <Madpilot> sdfzx, see the RootSudo URL ^^^
[08:51] <XpCrash> does kopete come with it
[08:51] <jetsirus> Its my user login password.
[08:51] <thoreauputic> XpCrash: kopete is in kubuntu, yes
[08:51] <wastrel> prolly that groups bug
[08:51] <sdfzx> hehehe
[08:51] <XpCrash> is it the latest version
[08:51] <sdfzx> thnks
[08:52] <thoreauputic> !info kopete
[08:52] <ubotu> kopete: (instant messenger for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4214 kB, Installed size: 14332 kB
[08:52] <jetsirus> All the problems SEEM to have started after adding another user.
[08:52] <thoreauputic> XpCrash: that's the version ^^^
[08:52] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: check that the user is in the admin group
[08:52] <slvmchn> easy question: where to find/get libmp3lame.so?
[08:53] <jetsirus> How?  I can't use the GUI for users and don't know the terminal commands
[08:53] <XpCrash> ok , i dont mean to sound like a n00b
[08:53] <sdfzx> is there any filipino here?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> slvmchn: install liblame0
[08:53] <wastrel> jetsirus:  your login no longer has sudo access?  and it used to?
[08:53] <mikebot> fuck..i did somethign wrong
[08:53] <bliss1> hello all can some kind person tell me if my ssh server is working on port 44 at 4096.net please
[08:54] <bliss1> port22
[08:54] <jetsirus> Well, it has sudo acces..  But whenever I try to run something requireing it ask for password once and then nothing happens.
[08:54] <slvmchn> mp3 support?
[08:54] <Vufer> hmm.... i cant't do anything with synaptic after i try to take him "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047"
[08:54] <dobblego> on port 22 it is
[08:54] <thoreauputic> bliss1: yup it connects
[08:54] <dobblego> nothing on port 44
[08:54] <Vufer> Can anyone get stepbystep instruction? for noob :)
[08:55] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[08:55] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:55] <Garlaxel> ssh 4096.net seems to work
[08:55] <wastrel> jetsirus:  i've heard there's a bug with one of the GUI user management tools that messes up group membership... and apparently if you're not in the adm or admin group this behavior occurs
[08:55] <thoreauputic> slvmchn: ^^^
[08:55] <Madpilot> Vufer, open that URL in a browser
[08:55] <jetsirus> That may be the case..  Any idea how to fix it?
[08:55] <jetsirus> Cause all this started after I added another user.
[08:55] <slvmchn> thoreauputic: repo that has it?
[08:55] <slvmchn> it's not showing up in synaptic
[08:55] <bliss1> ok many thanks just one question how to stop computer hibernating or powering down when not at home
[08:55] <lordpau> mp3 runs as soon as you get the mmplayer installed..
[08:56] <thoreauputic> !info limp3lame0
[08:56] <thoreauputic> bah
[08:56] <Madpilot> slvmchn, please readhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:56] <thoreauputic> !info libmp3lame0
[08:56] <slvmchn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:56] <slvmchn> !info libmp3lame0
[08:56] <hink> I have a question.  I recently booted up a box that I haven't run in a while and I can't figure out what my log-in id is.  Is there anyway to find out what it is?
[08:56] <wastrel> jetsirus:  boot into rescue mode and edit groups.
[08:57] <thoreauputic> ah wrong name
[08:57] <ufo> does some one know who owns the ubotu?
[08:57] <thoreauputic> !info liblame0
[08:57] <ubotu> liblame0: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 147 kB, Installed size: 376 kB
[08:57] <thoreauputic> multiverse
[08:57] <wastrel> jetsirus:  use vigr or adduser/addgroup...
[08:57] <IroeL> hi patrix..
[08:57] <bliss1> thereauptic/dobblego thanks
[08:57] <IroeL> i try to do this.. Remove the ";" for the line ";extension=mysql.so", and restart Apache as is stated below.
[08:57] <Vufer> Synaptic stilll trying do something... i cant click on any buttons.... :(
[08:57] <IroeL> after i restart the apache2, no change..
[08:57] <Vufer> how i can safe kill his task?
[08:57] <jetsirus> Heh..  Complete noob here..  How do I boot into rescue mode...
[08:57] <bliss1> get a good intro to postfix?
[08:58] <hink> how do I get into rescue mode
[08:58] <eng> hi, any compiz experts around?
[08:58] <thoreauputic> hink: hit tab on boot, choose recovery/rescue
[08:58] <wastrel> jetsirus:  there should be an option in the boot menu
[08:58] <thoreauputic> hink: or type sudo init 1
[08:58] <hink> thank you
[08:58] <timfrost> !rescue
[08:58] <ubotu> from memory, rescue is Boot the install cd with rescue as boot parameter for system rescue mode
[08:59] <malv> is eog just really crashy?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> hink: ubotu's way is another way - you can do it with the live CD too
[08:59] <thoreauputic> malv: no
[08:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:00] <malv> must be the amd 64 version
[09:00] <malv> crashes all the time
[09:00] <Madpilot> malv, try gThumb instead
[09:00] <thoreauputic> malv: try gqview ( or gthumb)
[09:00] <malv> evolution tends to do it on exit too
[09:00] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: great minds ... ;-)
[09:00] <wastrel> i can't connect to my vnc server, get   ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::SystemException: read: Connection reset by peer (104)    I've restarted the server, same error...  any ideas?
[09:00] <jetsirus> Ok.  Thanks..  I will give this stuff a try and be back soon.
[09:01] <ichigo-san> know where i can find perl plugin for xchat?
[09:02] <slvmchn> how to add multiverse to repos?
[09:02] <timfrost> wastrel, what happens if you try 'telnet <vnc server> 5900'?
[09:02] <slvmchn> for synaptic?
[09:02] <thoreauputic> ichigo-san: probably the xchat home page
[09:02] <mikebot> how can i open *.exe's?
[09:03] <wastrel> timfrost:  i get a connection and this text:   RFB 003.007
[09:03] <thoreauputic> mikebot: .exe is windows -  what are you wanting to do?
[09:03] <ichigo-san> thoreauputic: ive looked there but ill keep lookin thx
[09:04] <kosachev>  wmaker  
[09:04] <mikebot> thoi download, from freshmeat.net, a linux program, in exe format
[09:04] <Madpilot> slvmchn, same way you added Universe
[09:04] <mikebot> thoreauputic*
[09:05] <thoreauputic> mike4263: don't try to install random stuff like that - what program?
[09:05] <mikebot> httrack
[09:05] <mikebot> haha
[09:05] <mikebot> i'm going to get viruses
[09:05] <thoreauputic> !info httrack
[09:05] <ubotu> httrack: (Copy websites to your computer (Offline browser)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 3.33.16-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[09:06] <mikebot> yeah, that
[09:06] <thoreauputic> mike4263: httrack is in universe
[09:06] <wastrel> mikebot:  check to if the program you're interested in is in synaptic before trying to install it from the web
[09:06] <thoreauputic> mikebot: sorry tab complete error
[09:06] <Madpilot> mikebot, if the bot knows about it, it's in Ubuntu's repos
[09:06] <wastrel> mikebot:  downloading and installing from the web is a last resort :] 
[09:06] <thoreauputic> indeed
[09:06] <Besi> zdr
[09:07] <timfrost> wastrel, that indicates that the VNC server is up and accepting connections. Sounds like a config error.
[09:07] <Gopi> Any good TV viewing software other than xawtv and mythtv ??
[09:07] <mikebot> wastrel: thoreauputic oh okay
[09:07] <mikebot> i was just browsing freshmeat and saw it
[09:08] <Gopi> Actually Iam not able to record anything in xawtv....
[09:08] <di> is there a "spread ubuntu" community anywhere?
[09:08] <Gopi> but I am able to play TV in it !
[09:08] <mikebot> i downloaded some weather one from synaptic, but can't find it anywhere
[09:08] <George> blist
[09:08] <George> argh
[09:09] <thoreauputic> mikebot: when you see something interesting, always check to see if it's in synaptic :)
[09:09] <mikebot> thoreauputic: heh okay
[09:09] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:09] <Madpilot> mikebot, to get weather info: right-click on one of the desktop bars, click Add To Panel, find the Weather one
[09:09] <Gopi> And anyone know if mythtv works for 64 bit Athlon using Ubuntu for AMD64 ??
[09:09] <thoreauputic> mikebot: First thing, always - make it a habit :)
[09:09] <di> is there a "spread ubuntu" community anywhere?
[09:09] <mikebot> Madpilot: ahhhhhh thanks
[09:10] <mikebot> thoreauputic: okay
[09:10] <wastrel> timfrost:  i was afraid of that :]    i followed some mumbo-jumbo to tie vncserver with gdm & now it's not working (worked for a while anyway...)
[09:10] <Ashly> Shockwave still doesnt have a amd64 release I bet..
[09:10] <Besi> hi
[09:11] <Madpilot> mikebot, then right-click on the Weather app to get it aimed at the right city/airport/whatever
[09:11] <Madpilot> Ashly, Shockwave has no Linux releases at all
[09:11] <Ashly> I thought there was.. or was that whats it called..
[09:11] <mikebot> Madpilot: cool, got it, thanks
[09:11] <Ashly> *scratches her head*
[09:12] <Ribs> Ashly: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[09:12] <Ribs> check that out
[09:12] <Madpilot> Ashly, Flash for 32bit Linux exists - Shockwave doesn't
[09:12] <Ribs> they intend to support shockwave eventually...
[09:12] <Ashly> Im getting ubuntu right now, I havent ran linux in 2 years
[09:12] <mikebot> where would httrack have gone?
[09:12] <Ashly> Thats right Flash, they need a 64bit :P
[09:13] <thoreauputic> mikebot: try typing httrack in a terminal, or do  dpkg -L httrack | grep bin
[09:13] <mikebot> thoreauputic: okay
[09:13] <wastrel> g'night
[09:14] <delmar> Whats the ubuntu way of managing samba configeration please anyone?
[09:14] <mikebot> typing httrack worked, but i want to like open the actual porgam
[09:14] <thoreauputic> mikebot: you might check out webhttrack as well ( I 've never used either but that looks like a web frontend)
[09:14] <Madpilot> Ashly, you can run the 32bit Ubuntu on 64bit hardware, if you really need Flash & such
[09:14] <mikebot> thoreauputic: whta's the difference?
[09:14] <steve_> how do i disable pcmcia from attempting to start everytime I turn my desktop on?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> mikebot: I haven't used them - type"apt-cache show webhttrack" to read about it
[09:15] <thoreauputic> or read the description in synaptic
[09:16] <mikebot> dpkg -L httrack | grep bin
[09:16] <mikebot> /usr/bin
[09:16] <mikebot> /usr/bin/httrack
[09:16] <Ashly> There a graphical front end for apt in Ubuntu? :)
[09:16] <Ashly> btw, you guys are pretty helpful thanks :)
[09:16] <thoreauputic> mike4263: so it's /usr/bin/httrack ( but that's in your PATH anyway so just "httrack" works too
[09:17] <thoreauputic> mikebot: ^^
[09:17] <mikebot> thoreauputic: yeah, webhttrack is the samethign, but with a web interface, so i gues that's what i want
[09:17] <mikebot> heh
[09:17] <Madpilot> Ashly, it's called Synaptic
[09:17] <Ashly> ah ok :)
[09:17] <Madpilot> Ashly, pretty pictures here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:17] <mikebot> when the part of the name i type in is ambiguous, it doesn't put any name
[09:18] <Madpilot> mikebot, what doesn't?
[09:18] <Ashly> Madpilot, Thanks alot, I figured id try Ubuntu, since its the only other distro besides Fedora I havent used, and it seemed more feesable and friendly :)
[09:18] <mikebot> like if i type 'mad' then press tab
[09:18] <mikebot> it doesn't put maddler, but says 'maddler Madpilot '
[09:19] <thoreauputic> mikebot: hit tab twice
[09:19] <thoreauputic> right
[09:19] <Mantice> Can any one please help me emulating a 32 bit game called "enemy territory?
[09:19] <chr1z> heh
[09:19] <mikebot> thogue thoreauputic
[09:19] <mikebot> thogue thoreauputic
[09:19] <thoreauputic> mikebot: so you have the choice...
[09:19] <mikebot> but pressing tab multiple times doesn't put anything still
[09:19] <Madpilot> mikebot, which IRC app are you using?
[09:19] <thoreauputic> mikebot: I tend to forget to hit tab twice, so I make mistakes ;-)
[09:20] <Mantice> Can any one please help me emulating a 32 bit game called "enemy territory? on a AMD64 - Im currently geting a kernal panic error :(
[09:20] <mikebot> just gaim
[09:20] <mikebot> thoreauputic: ah
[09:20] <thoreauputic> mikebot: oh, use xchat
[09:20] <thoreauputic> mikebot: gaim is kind of crippled for IRC
[09:20] <jetsirus> Can anyone tell me how to start gnome from recovery?  Can't remember the command.
[09:20] <Mantice> i know this one
[09:20] <Madpilot> Mantice, check ubuntuforums.org - both the gaming & 64bit forums
[09:20] <mikebot> i like gaim because i simultaneously use aim, so it's convenient
[09:20] <mikebot> i use mirc with windows
[09:20] <Mantice> Thanks for the advice yet again Madpilot
[09:21] <thoreauputic> mikebot: fair enough - whatever you prefer
[09:21] <mikebot> thoreauputic: hehe, but i should try xchat
[09:21] <steve_> jetsirus, sudo gdm restart
[09:21] <jetsirus> Ok thanks.
[09:21] <thoreauputic> mikebot: if you want hard-core, try irssi ;)
[09:21] <Mantice> startx ?
[09:21] <michael_> doesn't have different color font for each user's name
[09:21] <michael_> heh
[09:21] <Madpilot> Mantice, startx starts X
[09:21] <michael_> does ubuntu come with irssi?
[09:21] <eng> just started using irssi..love it
[09:21] <thoreauputic> Mantice: if you only have gnome, startx should start gnome
[09:22] <thoreauputic> michael_: yes
[09:22] <michael_> ah i like that it's red when you say my name
[09:22] <sesq> how can i install E17 in easy way?
[09:22] <mustard5> how can you test a debian package safely to see if its going to work on ubuntu?
[09:22] <mikebot> okay well
[09:23] <mikebot> Madpilot: thoreauputic: thanks for all the help
[09:23] <thoreauputic> mustard5: are you sure it isn't in Ubuntu ?
[09:23] <mikebot> i'm going to sleep[
[09:23] <thoreauputic> mikebot: no worries :)
[09:23] <Madpilot> mikebot, no problem, good luck
[09:23] <mikebot> thanks
[09:23] <mikebot> night
[09:23] <thoreauputic> 'night
[09:23] <mustard5> thoreauputic, its from Debian I think...the freemind app..its got a .deb at sourceforge
[09:24] <thoreauputic> mustard5: hmm - doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu
[09:24] <mustard5> thoreauputic, yeah...I'm just curious about it
[09:24] <mustard5> thoreauputic, I'm wondering how I can install th .deb without risking my box :)
[09:24] <thoreauputic> mustard5: check the dependencies I guess - but debina packages are risky
[09:24] <thoreauputic> *debian
[09:25] <mustard5> thoreauputic, k...I suppose I could make a clean install on another partition and run it there :)
[09:25] <jetsirus> Ok..  Still haveing trouble running Synaptic or Users and Groups
[09:25] <jetsirus> Tried going into recovery and it still does nothing more than ask for a password.
[09:25] <thoreauputic> mustard5: or compile your own if you feel adventurous I guess...
[09:26] <Madpilot> thoreauputic, XChat has an autocorrection thing - 'teh' to 'the' and such
[09:26] <mustard5> thoreauputic, well I've tried using another install package, but I'm getting dependencies errors that I can't work out
[09:26] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: if you type "groups" in a terminal, is one of them "admin" ?
[09:26] <jetsirus> Let me check
[09:26] <mustard5> thoreauputic, the .deb package is just sitting there tempting to me to try it :D
[09:26] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: yeah I should config it to change debina to debian ;)
[09:27] <jetsirus> thoreauputic, no it is not
[09:27] <thoreauputic> mustard5: well i guess you can try it - it might complain about missing deps or whatever ( I wouldn't do it)
[09:27] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: well, you need to add the user to that group
[09:28] <jetsirus> How can I do that in a terminal?  I can't load the users and groups gui
[09:28] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: do you have a root password or just your sudo password?
[09:28] <jetsirus> sudo pass only I think
[09:28] <mustard5> thoreauputic, I suppose the main think I worry about is whether its going to install to places that it shouldnt due to differences in debian and ubuntu
[09:28] <mustard5> thoreauputic, I suppose the only way to know is to try :)
[09:29] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: if you boot from the install CD and choose "rescue" you should get a root prompt - you can chroot to your Ubuntu partition and add your user to "admin"
[09:29] <jetsirus> ack..
[09:29] <thoreauputic> mustard5: just don't complain if it breaks ;)
[09:29] <jetsirus> Let me take some notes here.
[09:30] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: also read "man visudo"
[09:30] <ufo> does someone know if dreamweaver works on wine?
[09:30] <jetsirus> Ok..  So chroot takes me to Ubuntu partition.
[09:31] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: the line looks like  " %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL  " in /etc/sudoers
[09:31] <thoreauputic> so   adduser jetsirus admin   should fix it
[09:31] <mustard5> thoreauputic, hehe yeah
[09:31] <heatxsink> hey guys do you know if an Atholon 2600+ is a k7?
[09:31] <thoreauputic> assuming...
[09:32] <jetsirus> Ok..  I noted down all you said.
[09:32] <jetsirus> the visudo manuel will give me info on editing user groups?
[09:32] <Madpilot> heatxsink, yes
[09:32] <heatxsink> Madpilot:  thanks
[09:32] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: you will probably have to mount the partition to chroot to it - you might need to mount /proc as welll
[09:33] <jetsirus> Ack....
[09:33] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: no man visudo tells you about sudo and /etc/sudoers
[09:33] <jetsirus> I think this may be beyond my scope.
[09:33] <thoreauputic> if you need to edit /etc/sudoers you should use the "visudo" command
[09:34] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: are *any* of your users in the "admin" group?
[09:34] <isolate> I just installed ubuntu and I don't know how to get my wireless card to work... can anyone help?
[09:34] <jetsirus> I honestly don't think so.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> if so, use that user for sudo
[09:35] <jetsirus> No..  Im sure they arnt.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: I'm puzzled as to how this happened...
[09:35] <jetsirus> It happened after I added a user.
[09:35] <jetsirus> After that, nothing admin wise worked for either user.
[09:35] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: that should not affect the first user unless you changed something
[09:36] <isolate> ......
[09:36] <jetsirus> I didn't..  Someone mentioned it was a bug.
[09:36] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: did you delete the first user?
[09:36] <jetsirus> I honestly don't know.
[09:36] <jetsirus> Nope.
[09:36] <thoreauputic> hmm
[09:36] <jetsirus> This is the first user. =)
[09:36] <thoreauputic> are you on dapper?
[09:36] <jetsirus> Nope.
[09:37] <jetsirus> Breezy badger 5.10
[09:37] <larard> Hi. I configured a ubuntu machine on a different network that uses static ips. I now want to switch to dhcp permanantly. I tried editing /etc/networks/interfaces, but it seems to be being ignored, and is getting some address in the 169.254 range rather than 10.0.0.0 range which my dhcp server sends out. dhclient eth0 configures it correctly however....
[09:37] <thoreauputic> well I'm on breezy and I have several users - never happened here :/
[09:37] <jetsirus> Everything was peachy untill new user..  So odd.
[09:37] <thoreauputic> odd indeed
[09:38] <jetsirus> So I need to type "adduser jetsirus admin" at the root bash or whatever from the recovery load?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> yes
[09:38] <jetsirus> I will try that and then get back to you.
[09:38] <jetsirus> Is there a way to kill gnome
[09:38] <Madpilot> jetsirus, then "shutdown -r now" to shutdown/restart the machine
[09:38] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: first do  less /etc/sudoers from the root prompt to see if the line is right
[09:38] <thoreauputic> jetsirus:  sudo requied to kill gnome
[09:38] <mustard5> isolate, have you read any guides yet?
[09:39] <thoreauputic> *required
[09:39] <jetsirus> drat
[09:39] <jetsirus> I ran this time in recovery and just typed "gdm"
[09:39] <mustard5> isolate, there are a couple I can point you at
[09:39] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: catch 22 - you can't do  init 1 without sudo/root either
[09:39] <isolate> @mustard5: I have read a few but they all tell me how to configure once it's already detected
[09:39] <Ashly> Do I have a choice between KDE or Gnome or is it auto Gnome upon Install?
[09:39] <isolate> I would appreciate that!
[09:39] <jetsirus> ok.  I will reboot and try this stuff.  I will let you guys now how it goes.
[09:39] <jetsirus> back in 5 or so.
[09:40] <mustard5> isolate, ah ok..which ones you looked at so far?
[09:40] <mustard5> !wifi
[09:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Ashly: gnome by default
[09:40] <superante> hi..
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Ashly: if you want KDE install kubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <jetsirus> of course.
[09:40] <superante> i must install a printer
[09:40] <superante> lexmark t520
[09:40] <isolate> I don't know the urls anymore (it was on a different system)
[09:40] <Ashly> thoreauputic, ok, Im ganna have to get KDE after I get Ubuntu installed
[09:40] <mustard5> isolate, you see the link above in ubotu's message?
[09:40] <thoreauputic> Ashly: well, it's very easy as you see :)
[09:41] <isolate> yes
[09:41] <superante> but i don't know which is the correct driver for ubuntu
[09:41] <superante> http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:79:0:0
[09:41] <thoreauputic> Ashly: you know about kubuntu, right? You can get Kubuntu Cds too
[09:41] <Ashly> thoreuputic, Ive never ran Ubuntu, but I've used linux for years,
[09:41] <mustard5> isolate, there are a lot of resources there on the subject, both on that page and linked from that page
[09:41] <Syns> i cant get my hp officejet to work
[09:41] <Ashly> Except the last 2
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Ashly: are you familiar with apt-get?
[09:42] <Ashly> Yes
[09:42] <Ashly> Ive used debian
[09:42] <isolate> I will check those out.  thank you!
[09:42] <Ashly> But Im more of a slack girl..
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Ashly: well, Ubuntu is practically the same
[09:42] <mustard5> superante, I'll have a look, but I doubt I know either :)
[09:42] <Mantice> Can any one please help me emulating a 32 bit game called "enemy territory? on a AMD64 - Im currently geting a kernal panic error :( where abouts in the forums should I start looking?
[09:42] <thoreauputic> Ashly: if you know Debian, Ubuntu is a breeze
[09:43] <isolate> @larard can't you just use dhclient?
[09:43] <thoreauputic> pun not inteneded :)
[09:43] <Ashly> But hence I got a a 64bit machine and I wanted to see the 64bit linux, soo Im not useing slack :P
[09:43] <superante> mustard5, i wait
[09:43] <mustard5> superante, what about the Debian GNU ones?
[09:43] <mustard5> superante, ubuntu is based on debian
[09:43] <superante> i have ubuntu
[09:43] <superante> ok
[09:43] <thoreauputic> Ashly: the down side of 64bit is that some things are not available yet
[09:43] <superante> so debian?
[09:43] <Ashly> Yeah
[09:43] <Madpilot> Mantice, I already told you - the gaming forums or the AMD64 forums - use the search feature...
[09:43] <superante> i choose debian?
[09:43] <Ashly> Theres a smokeing section here?
[09:44] <Mantice> Ashly if you are a experenced linux user go the 64 way
[09:44] <mustard5> superante, well its the best I can see on that page
[09:44] <Determinist> aye
[09:44] <Mantice> and dont mind not having stuff like flash and gaming :( go the 64 way
[09:44] <mustard5> superante, thats not to say it will work though :)
[09:44] <Ashly> Mantice, I figured
[09:44] <superante> ok
[09:44] <larard> isolate: I can but I was wanting it to reboot happily.
[09:44] <superante> mustard5, tnx
[09:44] <Mantice> Well I was a n00b and went the 64 way lol :)
[09:45] <Mantice> Now I find theres no flash
[09:45] <mustard5> superante, you know how to install .deb files locally?
[09:45] <Determinist> could be nice if i had some ubuntu version to put on my pocket pc instead of that stinking windows mobile
[09:45] <Mantice> and I have to do extra extra special stuff to run linux games :(
[09:46] <Mantice> Man Im never buying a game that dont support linux :)
[09:46] <superante> mustard5, no..i try
[09:46] <superante> ;)
[09:46] <mustard5> superante, ok..well you need to use the dpkg command
[09:46] <superante> mmhh
[09:46] <mustard5> superante, sudo dpkg -i <fullnameofpackage.deb>
[09:46] <superante> tnxxx
[09:46] <superante> ;)
[09:47] <JakeK> what's the craze with ubuntu? what's so special?
[09:48] <superante> mustard5, 24 mb!!!!!! uazzz
[09:48] <mustard5> JakeK, I doubt there is a blanket answer for that
[09:48] <JakeK> it's like a rumour around the campus, almost like the girl who was pole dancing at a party the other night
[09:48] <isolate> how do you make the text red when speaking to a particular individual?
[09:48] <mustard5> superante, yeah? hopefully it works :)
[09:48] <thoreauputic> JakeK: it's such fun hearing people ask "what's special" ?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:48] <Madpilot> isolate, that happens automatically
[09:48] <superante> mustard5,  yeah
[09:48] <JakeK> is it one of those cool 'popular' phrases?
[09:48] <JakeK> or is it leet?
[09:48] <doro> umm, i installed ubuntu and it never asked me for a root password, now i cannot log into root
[09:48] <Madpilot> JakeK, it just works :P
[09:48] <Madpilot> doro, use sudo & your own user pw
[09:49] <Madpilot> !sudo
[09:49] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:49] <thoreauputic> JakeK: why not try it and see?
[09:49] <JakeK> what's with its website, i swear i felt like a communist just reading some of the philosophy
[09:49] <mustard5> doro, read the link from ubotu :)
[09:49] <thoreauputic> JakeK: erm, this is looking like a troll...
[09:49] <Syns> why does breezy detect my printer but dapper wont
[09:49] <Syns> having all kinds of trouble
[09:49] <JakeK> is it special, i'm surprised like i've never heard of it before, then bang its one of the biggest channels on freenode, how long did that take to materialize?
[09:49] <isolate> anyone here setup a wireless card with the broadcom chipset?
[09:50] <mustard5> JakeK, well its been around for a while
[09:50] <thoreauputic> JakeK: started in 2004
[09:50] <JakeK> ohh i see
[09:50] <mustard5> JakeK, you never used lnux?
[09:50] <JakeK> is it just good beccause its 'easy'?
[09:50] <JakeK> attactive because of that?
[09:50] <mustard5> JakeK, that would be part of it
[09:50] <jetsirus> thoreauputic, Worked like a charm.
[09:50] <thoreauputic> JakeK: not really - it just tends to work well
[09:50] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: hooray!
[09:50] <thoreauputic> :D
[09:50] <JakeK> mustard5, never used linux
[09:50] <jetsirus> My thoughts.
[09:50] <mustard5> JakeK, its not always 'easy' or we wouldnt need this support channel :)
[09:50] <JakeK> well i tried freebsd once
[09:50] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: well done !
[09:51] <jetsirus> For some reason all the user accounts were removed from admin.....
[09:51] <JakeK> but my lasermouse, whenever i moved it, it typed in 500 characters in the login prompt (looked like DOS rofl) randomly
[09:51] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: it's  a lot like Debian really
[09:51] <JakeK> so i thought all that linux stuff must be incompatible with new technology
[09:51] <larard> Hi. I configured a ubuntu machine on a different network that uses static ips. I now want to switch to dhcp permanantly. I tried editing /etc/networks/interfaces, but it seems to be being ignored, and is getting some address in the 169.254 range rather than 10.0.0.0 range which my dhcp server sends out. dhclient eth0 configures it correctly however.... Anyone?
[09:51] <mustard5> JakeK, I saw a lasermouse running on an ubuntu live CD over the weekend
[09:51] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: normally you only use one user for sudo
[09:51] <mustard5> JakeK, it was working ok
[09:51] <JakeK> cool, yea it was fixable
[09:52] <jetsirus> Yea..  I have a system that is a permenent public terminal.
[09:52] <jetsirus> I need to seperate the accounts.
[09:52] <mustard5> JakeK, grab a live CD and try it...the liveCD wont affect your installation at all
[09:52] <Aditya_TroJhan> hi
[09:52] <JakeK> but i'm the type that will only try linux, when i get a new pc just for the task, rather than partitioning, and taking my time off of windows uptime
[09:52] <JakeK> like i always have to have that windows machine on
[09:52] <thoreauputic> jetsirus: well, you need to disable sudo on all accounts but yours, I 'd say
[09:52] <JakeK> ohh that's a good idea
[09:52] <mustard5> JakeK, well thats what the liveCD is for...testing it without installing
[09:52] <Aditya_TroJhan> hi
[09:52] <jetsirus> well ima get back to messing things up.  Take care and thanks for all the help.  Thats my next plan..
[09:52] <JakeK> i did that with knoppix once
[09:53] <mustard5> JakeK, it boots up from CD and runs in RAM
[09:53] <Aditya_TroJhan> what
[09:53] <JakeK> i remember the software PPPoE, didn't connect and i was pissed when i used knoppix
[09:53] <thoreauputic> Aditya_TroJhan: do you have a question?
[09:53] <JakeK> i tried like all 5 software pppoe programs on the livecd
[09:53] <mustard5> JakeK, I had trouble with knoppix on a dialup connection myself :)
[09:53] <delmar> hrm. why would a simple file copy.. between a SATA and an IDE (both 133) ... spin up 100% usage of one of the two CPUs (intel p4 3gig gtt etc).  anyone?
[09:53] <Fredde> How do I set themes for rox-filer?
[09:53] <JakeK> mines adsl but bridged, so i software connect
[09:53] <JakeK> in windows i just raspppoe it
[09:53] <JakeK> works fine
[09:54] <JakeK> that way when i software connect whenever i start a server the ip is transparent
[09:54] <Syns> what directory are the drivers for printers located?
[09:54] <isolate> @larard: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=996
[09:54] <thoreauputic> Fredde: what do you mean? rox is gtk2 so it takes on whatever gnome them you wish more or less
[09:55] <JakeK> okay favorite programs, foobar2000 and fluxbox work with ubuntu? it should hey, its just like any other flavor of linux?
[09:55] <Fredde> thoreauputic: I'm using openbox, so is there a comand to choose icons, or could I go into gnome and choose icons there and go back to open?
[09:55] <paquinhq> hey there
[09:55] <mustard5> JakeK, you can fiddle around and installt them yes...at least I have seen people install fluxbox
[09:55] <JakeK> fluxbox because esthetics is more important than soundcard working imho
[09:55] <thoreauputic> Fredde: either start up gnome-settings-daemon, or install the switch utility
[09:55] <thoreauputic> !info switch
[09:56] <paquinhq> i cant connectlocalhost via telnet
[09:56] <isolate> @larard: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=996
[09:56] <mustard5> JakeK, ubuntu runs gnome by default...or kubuntu runs KDE
[09:56] <Fredde> thoreauputic: hehe, I know why i couldn't se, I downloaded a theme, not icons :)
[09:56] <paquinhq> what couldit be??
[09:56] <paquinhq> i've already installed telnetd
[09:56] <paquinhq> but can't connect localhost
[09:57] <thoreauputic> actually the switch package is called gtk-theme-switch it appears
[09:57] <paquinhq> what could it be??
[09:57] <miles> hi
[09:57] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: telnetd? what on earth for?
[09:57] <mustard5> paquinhq, I think you have to give people time to think about the problem...I have no idea myself
[09:57] <superante> mustard5,  Would you like for us to make this change? (y|n)
[09:57] <paquinhq> for a school project
[09:57] <mustard5> superante, is that installing the .deb?
[09:57] <JakeK> well say i was going to buy a pc where the parts were compatible, what should i get, 3800+ x2, some random ASUS/ABIT board, an nvidia card say, 7800gtx, gnome by default? thats awesome, i remember freebsd and its DOS type login screen, it scared me as i dont know anything when it comes to commands, i only know linux conceptually not practically
[09:57] <superante> ya
[09:57] <superante> the
[09:57] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: yuk - telnet is evil
[09:58] <superante> mustard5, Configuring this application to use the [ CUPSD ]  print subsystem.
[09:58] <paquinhq> i know
[09:58] <mustard5> superante, well you could use the pastebin to show me what it says
[09:58] <superante> ok
[09:58] <JakeK> WD raptor 10,000 rpm 74gig work with ubuntu you reckon?
[09:58] <paquinhq> but i gotta make it work
[09:58] <mustard5> !pastebin
[09:58] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[09:58] <superante> one sec
[09:58] <mustard5> superante, the link for the pastebin is above in ubotu's post
[09:58] <mustard5> superante, don't paste in the channel :)
[09:59] <superante> ya
[09:59] <superante> mustard5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9584
[09:59] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: normally you woud do something like  telnet localhost 23  or something to connect with telnet I think
[09:59] <mustard5> superante, k
[09:59] <Madpilot> JakeK, nearly any harddrive should work w/ Ubuntu - ATA or SATA
[09:59] <JakeK> nice
[09:59] <paquinhq> ok
[09:59] <Syns> HELLOOOO????
[09:59] <paquinhq> let mecheck that port
[09:59] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: I've only ever used it to test mail servers on port 25 or 110 etc
[09:59] <JakeK> if i were to buy a pc, 7800gtx nvidia chip, 3800+ x2 and abit/asus mobo be fine madpilot?
[09:59] <mustard5> superante, well my guess..and its only a guess..is to say 'yes' :)
[10:00] <JakeK> i just want compatability
[10:00] <Mantice> dpkg --force-architecture ----- Is that the command to run 32 bit code????
[10:00] <paquinhq> nope
[10:00] <superante> ok
[10:00] <superante> yes
[10:00] <JakeK> i don't wanna cause my windows machine downtime to try linux, hence compatability and buying a new pc for the learning experience
[10:00] <paquinhq> unable to connectoto remote host: connection refused
[10:00] <mustard5> superante, my printer uses cupsd  so I guess its the right way to go
[10:00] <Madpilot> JakeK, probably - Nvidia seems slightly easier to manage on Linux than ATI, and the rest should work anywhere
[10:00] <superante> mustard5,  setup complete
[10:00] <superante> ;)
[10:00] <mustard5> superante, I hope it works :)
[10:00] <paquinhq> on both ports
[10:00] <JakeK> sweet
[10:00] <paquinhq> 25 and 110
[10:01] <mustard5> superante, lexmarks are a bit of a horror scenario I hear
[10:01] <Syns> i cant get my hp officejet to work
[10:01] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: heh - that is expected unless you are running a mail server
[10:01] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:01] <JakeK> so after ubuntu install, gnomes gonna start up once its all complete and im booting her up? i can be the biggest noob in the world (which im not) and get in, network it, and read up on what i need to learn once its all up and running?!
[10:01] <larard> isolate: That is what I've done already, it doesn't work. ifup outputs lots of info about trying dhcp, but the interface still comes back as being 169.254.233.68
[10:01] <Syns> i cant get my hp officejet to work
[10:01] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: what does  ps aux | grep telnetd say ?
[10:01] <Madpilot> Syns, HP should work OK - try System -> Admin -> Printing and see if it shows up
[10:01] <Mantice> Is there a safe way to convert a NTFS drives to FAT or somthing... Windows says you cant
[10:02] <Syns> i said earlier it doesnt..
[10:02] <mustard5> JakeK, get the liveCD first to test it...then you won't muck anything up
[10:02] <Syns> thats why im here
[10:02] <larard> isolate: /etc/init.d/networking restart does the same without the output.
[10:02] <doro> ok, so i'm trying to copy stuff from one folder to another i don't have permissions to, and i can't log into root, what do i do?
[10:02] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: i.e. is telnetd running ?
[10:02] <nicholaspaul> got a dumb-arse question: If i download a deb with a reaaaally long filename, and i rename it to save typing (!) will that affect how its installed when I dpkg ??
[10:02] <JakeK> i hear nowadays linux distributions have a desktop icon on the livecd to install to hdd
[10:02] <Madpilot> JakeK, Gnome will start automatically - if your networking is odd that might need some setup
[10:02] <larard> doro: use sudo
[10:02] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul: just tab complete the name
[10:02] <Madpilot> JakeK, the new version of Ubuntu will, yes
[10:02] <mustard5> JakeK, I don't think the Breezy Badger 5.10 liveCD has one of those
[10:02] <Mantice> If your using windows there will be down time anyway better to go to linux earlyer rather than later
[10:03] <Madpilot> doro, "sudo mv <etc>"
[10:03] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul:  sudo dpkg -i longname<tab>
[10:03] <JakeK> nah it'll be DNCP or whatever cable modem, simple networking, automatic find, thanks madpilot and mustard5 for the help
[10:03] <doro> anyway without term?
[10:03] <Mantice> brb
[10:03] <mustard5> JakeK, and 5.10 is the current stable...I've seen it on the next development version as Madpilot said
[10:03] <Mantice> Goodbye windows you suck!
[10:03] <JakeK> awesome
[10:03] <superante> mustard5,  the driver not appar and the link on menu don't work
[10:03] <paquinhq> thoreauputic: it says paquin 9304 0.0 0.1 3240 764pts/0 R+ 03:02 0:00 grep telnetd
[10:03] <nicholaspaul> thoreauputic: aaaaaaaaaaahhhh - thank you!
[10:03] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: Ok looks like it is running
[10:04] <mustard5> superante, I have no idea what is supposed to happen next.
[10:04] <JakeK> ty so much, i'ma go buy order this pc <3
[10:04] <thoreauputic> nicholaspaul:  heheh :)
[10:04] <superante> k
[10:04] <paquinhq> yeap daemon is running
[10:04] <Syns> madpilot what else should i try?
[10:04] <paquinhq> but i still can't connect to localhost
[10:04] <mustard5> superante, I guess you would go to System>>Administration>>Printers
[10:04] <isolate> @larard: when you type "route" from a bash shell does it correctly point at your gateway?
[10:04] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: what does   telnet localhost 23    say ?
[10:04] <mustard5> superante, if you are on gnome that is
[10:04] <JakeK> <3 to mustard5 and madpilot, thx for help
[10:04] <Madpilot> !tell Syns about printers
[10:04] <superante> ye
[10:04] <superante> ya
[10:04] <paquinhq> thoreauputic connection refused
[10:05] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: odd.
[10:05] <paquinhq> yup
[10:05] <superante> mustard5, but when i search the driver...don't found it in the list
[10:05] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: do you have to use telnet? Why not ssh ?
[10:05] <F1R3_C00L> Hello everybody . I have installed Unbutu linux on my Laptop. I have problem with my WiFi adapet and Wifi AP(on the AP is used WPA encrypting) . Connect don't work  because LAN manager in GNOME don't use WPA ecrypting. You can any help me please ?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: ah - you gave me the line that said grep!
[10:06] <paquinhq> the teacher told us to
[10:06] <mustard5> superante, you are on your own in this area unfortunately..unless you can google up something online where someone else has set one up
[10:06] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: it isn;t running
[10:06] <paquinhq> no??
[10:06] <superante> mustard5,  ok tnx
[10:06] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: try sudo /etc/init.d/telnetd start
[10:06] <mustard5> superante, I've only ever set up one printer...my own :)
[10:06] <isolate> F1R3_C00L: don't you need WPA_supplicant for that?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: or it might be just "telnet", I don't know for sure
[10:07] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: I misread your grep output - it was just echoing grep
[10:08] <paquinhq> on both cases (telnet and telnetd) says command not found
[10:08] <paquinhq> it's weird
[10:08] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: with the full  sudo /etc/init.d/  path?
[10:08] <Syns> what directory is hpijs in?
[10:08] <F1R3_C00L> isolate: Why ?
[10:08] <paquinhq> yes
[10:08] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: are you sure it's installed? what does  dpkg -l telnetd say ? ( don't paste it)
[10:09] <isolate> for WPA support?  I'm not really an expert though.... I came here with my own wireless problems :)
[10:09] <mustard5> F1R3_C00L, you read the wiki guide on wifi?
[10:09] <mustard5> !wifi
[10:09] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:09] <F1R3_C00L> isolate: WPE encrypting is not security, because I use WPA
[10:10] <paquinhq> reinst required
[10:10] <paquinhq> half installed
[10:10] <paquinhq> etc
[10:10] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: aha
[10:10] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall telnetd
[10:11] <paquinhq> done
[10:11] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: if that complains try  sudo apt-get -f install  (without rgumants)
[10:11] <isolate> F1R3_C00L, I'm not sure I can help much further :)  I just remembered that WPA needed the wpa_supplicant to work
[10:11] <thoreauputic> *arguments)
[10:11] <paquinhq> it worked
[10:11] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: :D
[10:11] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: Ok your problem is solved then?
[10:11] <paquinhq> yes
[10:11] <thoreauputic> great!
[10:11] <paquinhq> thank you very much
[10:12] <thoreauputic> no worries!
[10:12] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:12] <paquinhq> ok
[10:12] <Mantice> How to I remove programs from my pc?
[10:12] <paquinhq> well
[10:12] <mustard5> Mantice, which programs?
[10:12] <paquinhq> I'll startworking on that school project
[10:12] <mustard5> Mantice, how were they installed?
[10:12] <paquinhq> thanx
[10:12] <Mantice> Enemy Territory
[10:12] <paquinhq> peace
[10:12] <thoreauputic> Mantice: use synaptic
[10:12] <Mantice> Through the linux installer
[10:12] <thoreauputic> paquinhq: good luck :)
[10:13] <mustard5> Mantice, I think Enemy Territory runs from its own folder doesnt it?
[10:13] <Mantice> Yeah
[10:13] <Mantice> It has its own installer
[10:13] <Mantice> If I reinstalled over it that would be ok right?
[10:13] <mustard5> Mantice, but did it actually install anything in other folders?  does it have a log of its installation?
[10:13] <mustard5> Mantice, I would suspect its all just in the one folder
[10:14] <KaoticEvil> anyone got any ideas as to why sudo ifup wlan0 would freeze my computer
[10:14] <thoreauputic> OK good night all
[10:14] <Mantice> Its in my start menu, urh i mean gnome menu :)
[10:14] <mustard5> thoreauputic, night
[10:15] <mustard5> Mantice, hmm ok..well you might have to work it out yourself, as installing stuff that is not from synaptic always makes unistalling difficult
[10:15] <mustard5> Mantice, you can edit the menu yourself
[10:15] <Mantice> Yeah
[10:15] <Mantice> /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/et
[10:16] <mustard5> Mantice, look for some type of record of the install
[10:16] <superante> mustard5,  the error was : /usr/lexprint/bin/lexprint
[10:16] <superante> License Agreement was not accepted.
[10:16] <mustard5> superante, hmmm
[10:16] <mustard5> superante, did you ever see a licence agreement?
[10:16] <superante> nien
[10:16] <Mantice> Im just reinstalling it again anyway
[10:16] <mustard5> superante, very strange
[10:16] <superante> ya
[10:17] <superante> i reread the documentation again
[10:17] <mustard5> superante, whats the name of the package?
[10:18] <F1R3_C00L> mustard5: Just reading
[10:18] <F1R3_C00L> ubotu: thx
[10:18] <ubotu> F1R3_C00L: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:19] <mustard5> F1R3_C00L, he is a friendly bot :)
[10:19] <mustard5> hehe
[10:19] <bag> hi all
[10:19] <mustard5> greetings bag
[10:20] <Mantice> Could any one shed some light on linux32 any one here have any problems with it ?
[10:20] <superante> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9586
[10:20] <Ekushey> on ubuntu, where is the httpd.conf file?
[10:20] <mustard5> superante, k
[10:20] <superante> ho trovato un txt italiano
[10:21] <Ekushey> is the apache2.conf file?
[10:21] <superante> mustard5,  sorry
[10:21] <Ekushey> is it the apache2.conf file?
[10:21] <superante> i come back 10 min
[10:21] <mustard5> superante, k
[10:21] <bag> anyone here they have a bcm43xx wireless network card?
[10:21] <mustard5> superante, what is the name of the package though?
[10:21] <mustard5> superante, I can try a command if I know its name
[10:21] <superante> un sec
[10:22] <superante> http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:79:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=6083&searchLang=en&searchLang=en
[10:22] <mustard5> bag, having trouble with it?
[10:22] <F1R3_C00L> mustard5: :-D Iam back me internet connect is was down.
[10:22] <mustard5> F1R3_C00L, so it was something out of your control?
[10:23] <mustard5> superante, try this....  sudo dpkg-reconfigure print-drivers-linux-glibc2-x86
[10:23] <mustard5> superante, I'm hoping you will see a licence agreement this time
[10:23] <deepwoodz> greeting gentlemen (ladies if applies)
[10:23] <deepwoodz> quick question
[10:23] <mustard5> deepwoodz, k
[10:23] <Fredde> Now my ubuntu looks ber nice ^^
[10:24] <deepwoodz> where do i put my files for my drivers?
[10:24] <superante> ok i try
[10:24] <deepwoodz> i dont see the directory
[10:24] <mustard5> deepwoodz, what type of drivers?
[10:24] <deepwoodz> for my xbox 360 controller
[10:24] <Fredde> deepwoodz: like, your private folder?
[10:24] <deepwoodz> i guess so
[10:24] <Fredde> deepwoodz: I use my home
[10:24] <deepwoodz> the directory they put it in doesnt exist
[10:24] <F1R3_C00L> mustard5: sorry My English is bad. Yes I thinking about my control
[10:24] <delmar> anyone here use cedega? i just installed it and wondering how I can make it run my Everquest from a backup folder I've copied over.
[10:25] <deepwoodz> ok let me give that a shot
[10:25] <deepwoodz> ill shall return
[10:25] <Fredde> deepwoodz: /home/fredrik/musik, for example or do you mean something else?
[10:25] <mustard5> delmar, I use it...you have the install disk?
[10:25] <delmar> mustard5, yeah i do
[10:25] <delmar> mustard5, somewher...
[10:25] <mustard5> delmar, you could install from that
[10:25] <propagandhi> how cool is XGL gonna be
[10:25] <mustard5> delmar, cedega sets up special folders for each game
[10:25] <Fredde> I can't wait for xgl
[10:26] <delmar> mustard5, but i will be old and decrepid by the time its done...
[10:26] <propagandhi> same
[10:26] <delmar> mustard5, ah.. where?
[10:26] <Fredde> I hope I manage to install it
[10:26] <mustard5> delmar, try installing something and then look in your .cedega folder on your $HOME folder
[10:26] <Mantice> man im so anoyed that I cant play enemy-territory
[10:26] <deepwoodz> ok i ll give u the example
[10:26] <Fredde> I'm a newstarter with ubuntu
[10:26] <delmar> mustard5, good plan.
[10:26] <mustard5> delmar, you run the cedega program
[10:26] <deepwoodz> # cd /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/input/
[10:26] <deepwoodz> # rm xpad.c
[10:26] <deepwoodz> # wget http://cvs.xbox-linux.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/xbox-linux/kernel-2.6/drivers/usb/input/xpad.c
[10:26] <deepwoodz> # wget http://cvs.xbox-linux.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/xbox-linux/kernel-2.6/drivers/usb/input/xpad.h <-- like that
[10:26] <Fredde> Is cedega really working ok?
[10:27] <deepwoodz> that wut it says to do
[10:27] <deepwoodz> but the directory doesnt exit
[10:27] <maxkelley> no paste, please.
[10:27] <deepwoodz> oh sorry
[10:27] <F1R3_C00L> delmar : Cedega have For some software own dir /home/your_account/.cedega/soft_dir/
[10:27] <Fredde> deepwoodz: pastbin
[10:27] <mustard5> Fredde, its ok..but not fantastic :)
[10:27] <savon> Hey mye movies is playing to fast ant also the time in ubuntu is going to fast ho can i fix it?
[10:27] <deepwoodz> oops
[10:27] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[10:27] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:27] <Mantice> Could some one lend me there Cedega account please
[10:27] <deepwoodz> !pasteban
[10:27] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, deepwoodz
[10:27] <Fredde> deepwoodz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:27] <deepwoodz> !pastebin
[10:27] <ara> gnome rox
[10:27] <F1R3_C00L> Mantice: Why ?
[10:27] <Madpilot> Mantice, piracy is always offtopic here, thanks
[10:27] <Mantice> I want to try before I buy
[10:28] <mustard5> Mantice, they have a demo
[10:28] <Mantice> Really
[10:28] <Fredde> ara: did you shorten rocks to rox, or?...
[10:28] <mustard5> Mantice, it works for 14 days
[10:28] <delmar> F1R3_C00L, surely I can just move/copy the Everquest folder into there then?
[10:28] <Mantice> I supose thats not bad
[10:28] <ara> freedde: rocks == rox yes
[10:28] <Mantice> Is there a one time fee?
[10:28] <Fredde> ara: gnome eats memory
[10:28] <Fredde> but it looks good
[10:28] <mustard5> delmar, create folder called everquest maybe ?  inside .cedega?
[10:28] <delmar> mustard5, not sure where my CD's are.
[10:28] <Fredde> better then kde
[10:28] <delmar> mustard5, yeah.. cant hurt to try
[10:29] <Mantice> no kde vs gnome fightin
[10:29] <Mantice> :P try
[10:29] <Fredde> I use non of them :p
[10:29] <mustard5> delmar, you can always make a backup of your .cedega folder first
[10:29] <savon> ?
[10:29] <ara> Fredde: kde eats more memory imho, and feels more sluggish
[10:29] <Mantice> Ill probley just play diablo II
[10:29] <deepwoodz> well it tells me to put it in /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/input/ but it doesnt exist
[10:29] <delmar> mustard5, what do u reckon.. do games on cedega run better than when using standard winblows?
[10:29] <Fredde> ara: kde looks really bad
[10:29] <Mantice> If I could get Cedega working I could format windows
[10:29] <ara> and don't get me started on usability ;)
[10:29] <scsleo> anybody knows how to solve x-chat cannot show asian words?
[10:29] <Fredde> ara; gnome looks good, but I prefere openbox
[10:29] <mustard5> delmar, I think some run the same..some run worse..some don't run at all :)
[10:29] <Fredde> ara: or any *box
[10:30] <F1R3_C00L> delmar: Yes, you can move/copy/cut... , but you can't delete/move dir soft, because software not worked .
[10:30] <Fredde> ara: with gnome settings :P
[10:30] <propagandhi> Mantice: if ur a gamer u will never format windows
[10:30] <shukhrat> madpilot ?
[10:30] <shukhrat> here ?
[10:30] <savon> ?
[10:30] <Mantice> Im not a hard out gamer,
[10:30] <ara> Fredde: for example, how do you change a theme in kde ? with gnome it's a coulpe of clicks
[10:30] <mustard5> delmar, I can run Homeworld2, Railroad Tycoon 2 , Railroad Tycoon 3 on cedega..thats all I've got working so far
[10:30] <Madpilot> shukhrat, for the moment, yeah
[10:30] <mustard5> delmar, oh and masters of orion 3
[10:31] <Fredde> ara: I don't know, I don't use kde, I hate it and it loads slow
[10:31] <propagandhi> Mantice: cedega can handle only a very small portion of games
[10:31] <mustard5> delmar, steam normally runs along with CS and CS:Source..but I'm having issues atm
[10:31] <delmar> mustard5, nice.
[10:31] <savon> fils is playing to fast whats wrong?
[10:31] <Mantice> Cedega runs the games that I play :)
[10:31] <ara> Fredde : gnome 2.14 will have fast loading times. But I've yet to try dapper
[10:31] <savon> films
[10:31] <delmar> mustard5, EQ is well supported aparantly
[10:31] <Mantice> Allthough a few others
[10:32] <shukhrat> madpilot i'am downloading resporositories
[10:32] <propagandhi> savon: u need to do a jedi mind trick and speed up ur brain
[10:32] <Fredde> ara: I can't wait to see the new gnome
[10:32] <Toma-> The better thing to do, is email the game develoment companies and tell them about cedega and wine. alot of them actually share info with cedega and to a lesser extent, wine.
[10:32] <mustard5> delmar, there is an 'unofficial' wiki that gives you all the information on getting games going
[10:32] <delmar> ok
[10:32] <mustard5> delmar, try a search in google for 'unofficial transgaming wiki'
[10:32] <Toma-> asfor me, i only play id games because they fully support linux :)
[10:32] <Fredde> ara: I hope it gets better performance then the next kde (if i remeber corectly)
[10:32] <shukhrat> i hope then i can install MySQL
[10:32] <Toma-> qt4 is going to rick
[10:33] <savon> propagandhi: werry funny!
[10:33] <Toma-> rock even
[10:33] <ara> Fredde: kde4 will only have more bloat, ie more memory hogping
[10:33] <Fredde> ara: to the (...), there would be a new (ugly) version of kde
[10:33] <propagandhi> savon: but seriously what is ur architecture
[10:33] <ara> *hogging
[10:33] <propagandhi> kde rocks
[10:33] <mustard5> savon, I think your question got lost in the chat :)
[10:33] <Fredde> propagandhi: it's so ugly
[10:33] <Toma-> new kde is going to be quicker actually
[10:33] <savon> hehe ok!
[10:33] <Toma-> and have 'smarter' eyecandy
[10:33] <propagandhi> ha ha get off it
[10:33] <Fredde> propagandhi: show me a nice screen :)
[10:33] <propagandhi> gnome is much uglier
[10:34] <Fredde> propagandhi: is that a bet?
[10:34] <Mantice> How Do I run .run files with the linux32 added on
[10:34] <propagandhi> Fredde: did it sound like a bet?
[10:34] <Toma-> theyre bother the same actually...
[10:34] <savon> no the problem is that my movies seems to play in 30 fps but shall plays in 25:(
[10:34] <propagandhi> I dont see a $ anywhere
[10:34] <ara> you can customize gnome to your liking very easily, in kde, you need to install a .deb to install a theme
[10:34] <Fredde> propagandhi: show me a nice kde screenshot, and I'll show you a nice gnome shot
[10:34] <mustard5> savon, hmm strange problem
[10:34] <propagandhi> ara: totally incorrect
[10:34] <mustard5> savon, playing in what player?
[10:35] <propagandhi> some people even compile their own themes, or create their own graphics
[10:35] <propagandhi> browse kde-look.org
[10:35] <delmar> ok thanks mustard5. im just finishing up a thing or two here then I will give it a go
[10:35] <Fredde> propagandhi: http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=13854105624345452f5d23f&m=screen
[10:35] <savon> gxine thotem vlc xine
[10:35] <mustard5> delmar, good luck
[10:35] <propagandhi> there's plenty of screenshots there to justify kde can be beautiful
[10:35] <savon> all i have try!
[10:36] <mustard5> savon, does anything else run fast on your system?  like the clock?
[10:36] <Toma-> http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=high&page=0
[10:36] <ara> propagandhi: I'm just saying gnome can look nice too, don't get fooled by ubuntu's default theme ;)
[10:36] <savon> yess the clock to!
[10:36] <Mantice> !run
[10:36] <Mantice> aww
[10:36] <propagandhi> ara: i know that because i use both
[10:36] <mustard5> savon, what type of motherboard?
[10:36] <deepwoodz> im tryin to compile these drivers
[10:36] <deepwoodz> n i dont really know how to do so
[10:36] <propagandhi> but kde can be just as beatiful and is far more configurable
[10:36] <propagandhi> FAR MORE
[10:36] <savon> dont know, its a laptop!
[10:36] <Toma-> youve got that many gdesklets running and you call kde bloat? Ha.
[10:37] <mustard5> savon, ah ok
[10:37] <Mantice> How do you run a install file "file.run"
[10:37] <mustard5> savon, hmm...well I'm not really sure what the answer is...
[10:37] <propagandhi> and konqueror is an amazing all-round browser
[10:37] <Fredde> propagandhi: I  don't use gnome or kde, but gnome looks better with the right theme and icon + wallpaper
[10:37] <mustard5> savon, you tried searching the ubuntu forums?
[10:37] <deepwoodz> i have the website in all that im readin dis from.....but its not sayin too much (that i understand)
[10:37] <propagandhi> Fredde: u said u were knew earlier, and ur showing that now
[10:37] <shukhrat> Bye ALL !
[10:37] <mustard5> savon,  someone else may have had the same problem
[10:37] <savon> not the ubforums!unto forums, but linux
[10:37] <propagandhi> Fredde: give kde a real go and u'll understand
[10:38] <nicholaspaul> when I'm installing samba... if pc1 can see pc2 , but not vice versa, what is pc2 missing?
[10:38] <mustard5> savon, k..I would try the ubuntu forums..they are very helpful there
[10:38] <mustard5> savon, usually helpful anyway :)
[10:38] <shukhrat> i think now MySQL will be intsalling
[10:38] <shukhrat> after update
[10:38] <Fredde> propagandhi: you have kind of right, I can't say anything about kde untill I used it for a time
[10:38] <wjb> Question - is there a way to prevent getting join and leave meesages in Xchat-GNOME?
[10:38] <Madpilot> propagandhi & Fredde, can you take the desktop wars to #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[10:38] <savon> ok!, Il try!
[10:38] <Toma-> Fredde, http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/32788-1.jpg
[10:38] <Fredde> Madpilot: sorry
[10:38] <shukhrat> Ubuntu forevere !!!
[10:38] <mustard5> savon, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:38] <propagandhi> Fredde: not being rude by the way but u do need to give all a fair go
[10:38] <savon> thnx!
[10:38] <mustard5> savon,  use the search function
[10:39] <mustard5> savon, thats the way I find answers anyway :)
[10:39] <savon> yess I shall!
[10:39] <Fredde> propagandhi: ok, you won :] 
[10:39] <Fredde> Toma-: nice screen, except the top bar
[10:39] <propagandhi> Fredde: this victory seems somehow very shallow
[10:40] <Toma-> indeed
[10:40] <Toma-> needs to be crystal imho
[10:40] <propagandhi> all in all gnome and kde both have awesome features and advantages over each other, some meshing in between the two would be heaven
[10:40] <Fredde> Tome-: still, it looks really nice, for being kde (just kidding :D)
[10:40] <mustard5> wjb, an interesting question :)
[10:41] <Fredde> Toma-: by the way, is it your desktop?
[10:41] <Toma-> Fredde, this is a taste of things to come with kde 4.0... this person has set it up to a 4.0 look. note the Gnome type Applications button :D http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre3/29557-3.png
[10:41] <Toma-> Fredde, not yet
[10:41] <Mantice> Is any one here to help out a n00b?
[10:41] <Toma-> fixing my computer so i can get kde back :D running flux on a 266 atm
[10:41] <Toma-> Mantice, probably
[10:41] <propagandhi> whose using dapper
[10:42] <Mantice> how to I run a (.run) file?
[10:42] <Toma-> propagandhi, everyone in #ubuntu+1
[10:42] <Fredde> Toma-: it looks nice
[10:42] <mustard5> wjb, I can't find any options myself
[10:42] <Toma-> Mantice, "sh nameoffile.run"
[10:42] <Mantice> Thx
[10:42] <Toma-> iirc...
[10:42] <Toma-> or is that .bin
[10:42] <Fredde> Toma-: it looks nice, not the style, but the stuffs
[10:42] <propagandhi> Toma-: hmm i didnt know about that channel
[10:43] <Toma-> Fredde, yeh. thats gonna be lots of new eyecandy possibilites with kde4
[10:43] <Toma-> *theres
[10:43] <propagandhi> kde 4 is going to be awesome
[10:43] <Fredde> Toma-: I guess you use kde, how the prefomance?
[10:43] <Fredde> how's*
[10:43] <ssi_ben> hello, where is the configuration of breezy badger firewall?
[10:44] <Toma-> Fredde, once you cut a couple things out, its super.
[10:44] <wjb> mustard5: at least you confirmed that I am not going mad
[10:44] <Mantice> How come this dont work "linux32 sh et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[10:44] <Mantice> "
[10:44] <wjb> mustard5: i am sure that there used to be an option to do this in the previous version of xchat
[10:44] <CyberMad> how to set an eth0 as DHCP Client (or obtain automatically ip) ?
[10:45] <Mantice> dont worry I think i got it
[10:45] <CyberMad> i would like get IP configuration from DHCP server after i set the eth0 as static
[10:45] <propagandhi> CyberMad: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:46] <propagandhi> or if u used ifconfig to change the address, just use ifdown eth0 then ifup eth0 to get ur dhcp IP again
[10:46] <CyberMad> thanks
[10:47] <propagandhi> CyberMad: np
[10:47] <ssi_ben> i have to run  zope on an ubuntu server but do issu to open 8080 port
[10:47] <Toma-> Fredde, http://www.planetdiaz.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=141
[10:47] <Toma-> :D
[10:49] <nicholaspaul> when I'm installing samba... if pc1 can see pc2 , but not vice versa, what is pc2 missing?
[10:50] <damian_> whats that thing i forget what its called something dma or something makes your ide devices run faster
[10:50] <sj> which breezy repository has w32codecs && libdvdcss2?
[10:50] <propagandhi> dma is right
[10:50] <mirak> hi
[10:50] <pablux> hola desde madrid
[10:50] <Toma-> sj, seveas
[10:50] <pablux> como estais
[10:50] <Toma-> i think..
[10:50] <Toma-> !seveas
[10:50] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:51] <sj> thank you very much!
[10:51] <^Odd^> does anyone know how to get soundtuner to use amarok as it's app
[10:51] <mirak> I have a scsi scanner, what must I do to enable it in xsane ? I can list it in scsiadd -s, but I don't see a device scanner
[10:51] <mustard5> sj, there is also a download link on the restricted formats page in the wiki
[10:52] <Madpilot> !tell damian_ about dma
[10:53] <sj> thanks alot guys, that's great.
[10:53] <mirak> in fact I have a device in the scanner group, it's /dev/sg1 root scanner
[10:53] <Mantice> Whats the graphical sudo ????
[10:54] <Mantice> Command
[10:54] <Madpilot> Mantice, gksudo?
[10:54] <Toma-> gksu
[10:54] <Mantice> Ah It had Gnatellis or somthing like that
[10:54] <nicholaspaul> when I'm installing samba... if pc1 can see pc2 , but not vice versa, what is pc2 missing?
[10:55] <Toma-> nautilus?
[10:55] <Mantice> Thx
[10:55] <Madpilot> Mantice, "gksudo nautilus" launches the file browser in w/ root privs...
[10:55] <Mantice> Thanks
[10:55] <Mantice> Just what I needed
[10:56] <Mantice> Whats a Keyring?
[10:56] <Mantice> It just poped up
[10:56] <Mantice> its never done this before
[10:56] <nicholaspaul> When I run testparm, what does "WARNING: passdb expand explicit = yes is deprecated" mean?
[10:57] <Madpilot> Mantice, the keyring can remember passwords for you
[10:57] <propagandhi> nicholaspaul: it means what it says, but its not a fatal error
[10:57] <Madpilot> Mantice, for ftp or ssh connections, that kind of thing
[10:58] <nicholaspaul> yea, i thot it meant that. I just couldnt find an eroneous 'yes' in smb.conf.
[10:58] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi: just trying to find out why Samba only seems to work one way.
[10:59] <propagandhi> Deprecated is a function that programmers are discouraged from using, typically because it is dangerous, or because a better alternative exists. Compilers warn when a deprecated program element is used or overridden in non-deprecated code.
[10:59] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi:  as in deprecated html tags...yea
[11:00] <propagandhi> nicholaspaul: you have two linux boxes right?
[11:00] <nicholaspaul> yup
[11:00] <^Odd^> dosen't matter anyway live365.com broke streamtuner >.<
[11:00] <propagandhi> nicholaspaul: why not use ssh
[11:00] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi:  i use that too. i want to use the gui sometimes.
[11:01] <propagandhi> ssh has a gui even in gnome
[11:01] <kameron> the command to start a new x sesson is "startx -- :1" right?
[11:01] <propagandhi> kde u have the fish:// protocol
[11:01] <F1R3_C00L> You have any Bluetooth tools for GNOME ??? (for easy send file with Laptop to other device with Bluetooth) ???
[11:01] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi:  it just bugs me that it works one way and not the other!!
[11:01] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi: yea, i usually use the -x tag in ssh.
[11:02] <Mantice> linux32 rules
[11:02] <propagandhi> nicholaspaul: well, i personally couldnt tell u where the difference in samba lies, have u tried smb4k
[11:02] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi:  no, i'm using samba 3.0.2.1 which works great with ubuntu<>osx
[11:04] <propagandhi> smb4k is an alternate samba browser
[11:04] <propagandhi> sometimes it gets better results
[11:04] <propagandhi> try it
[11:04] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi:  oh i see.. i'm looking at their site now. I'm hoping it works with dapper.
[11:05] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi: however, it does say that smb4k requires kde....i'm staying with gnome for now.
[11:05] <propagandhi> nicholaspaul: should do
[11:05] <nicholaspaul> cool
[11:05] <propagandhi> nicholaspaul: u shouldnt need the entire kde
[11:05] <propagandhi> surely just the dependancies
[11:05] <propagandhi> like running kopete on gnome etc
[11:06] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi: gotcha. Thanks for the tip
[11:06] <propagandhi> nicholaspaul: dont thank me yet!
[11:10] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi:  lol ok! But if it breaks my Dapper i'm going to swear!!
[11:10] <propagandhi> nicholaspaul: I am using dapper also, but first thing i did was grab kde so I've just installed smb4k and it seems fine thus far
[11:11] <nicholaspaul> propagandhi: thats good to know! I've had D broken a couple of times
[11:11] <delmar> hrm.
[11:11] <yggdrasil> how can i clear my apt-cache downloaded files ?
[11:11] <delmar> theres gotta be a way to just dump the EQ folder on here and have Cedega run the damn thing surely...
[11:12] <yggdrasil> uh apt-get even
[11:12] <propagandhi> yggdrasil: apt-get clean
[11:12] <yggdrasil> thanks
[11:13] <propagandhi> yggdrasil: no worries
[11:14] <aimaz> hello, my gnome session just died and trying to log in again causes a non-responding brown screen
[11:14] <aimaz> i can use fluxbox fine
[11:15] <aimaz> also gnome failsafe doesn't work
[11:15] <aimaz> any ideas?
[11:15] <Mantice> I take it that a Kernel Panic error is a bad thing :(
[11:15] <gen> buttes
[11:15] <yggdrasil> my / partition is 100% full how can i remove some installed apps ?
[11:15] <yggdrasil> or clean it up
[11:17] <ys76> Hi all - Did anybody try to update a Breezy install on LVMs to Dapper without trouble? "/dev/mapper/foo not present"
[11:19] <aimaz> when i start gnome-session from a tty it gives a lot of corba errors
[11:19] <aimaz> "GConf error adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error..."
[11:20] <jimcooncat> I want to start over on partitioning, I've made a new partition, what's the best way to copy the files?
[11:22] <saif> ok, i installed eclipse and tomcat on ubuntu, but i cant get ecipse to control tomcat unless i am root! probably a permission thing, since i cant start tomcat unless i am root! any1 familiar with this?
[11:22] <sunubuntu> how can i extract data(just plain text) from html page using python?
[11:23] <samoura> someone here?
[11:23] <jimcooncat> it does seem quiet
[11:24] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic_new$ ls
[11:24] <samoura> cfg-examples  FEATURES   LICENSE              psotnic-0.2.5-linux.tar.gz  TODO
[11:24] <samoura> CHANGELOG     framework  psotnic-0.2.5-linux  README
[11:24] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic_new$ ./psotnic conf.hub
[11:24] <samoura> bash: ./psotnic: No such file or directory
[11:24] <samoura> why doesnt work?
[11:24] <bimberi> samoura: 'cd psotnic-0.2.5-linux' then retry
[11:25] <samoura> samoura@dhcppc0:~/Desktop/psotnic_new$ cd psotnic-0.2.5-linux
[11:25] <samoura> bash: cd: psotnic-0.2.5-linux: Not a directory
[11:25] <bimberi> ah
[11:26] <Bennett> hi everyone
[11:26] <Oetzi> hi wie kann ich denn nen 2. X-Server mit ner gnome-session starten?
[11:26] <da1sy> hi
[11:26] <bimberi> ooh look, a PM :P
[11:26] <Oetzi> in der 1. luft oh sorry wrong channel
[11:27] <aimaz> Oetzi: hier ist fur englisch ich glaube es gibt ein deutsch chatroom
[11:27] <Bennett> does anyone here know anyhting about hard drives and data recovery
[11:27] <Oetzi> aimaz: yes i switched to the wrong channel-window
[11:27] <aimaz> Oetzi: ok :)
[11:28] <aimaz> Oetzi: sorry for my bad german
[11:28] <Oetzi> sorry for that
[11:28] <Bennett> my SATA drive died on me and i need to get the data off, from what i can tell I lost the partition table
[11:28] <aimaz> meh reboot time bye
[11:29] <Goshawk> how to extract an audio track from an ogg theora?
[11:29] <Oetzi> so Bennett what does fdisk -l /dev/hd? tell you
[11:29] <Bennett> everything about my ide drives partitons
[11:29] <Oetzi> oh sata then fdisk -l /dev/sd?
[11:30] <jimcooncat> I want to start over on partitioning, I've made a new partition, what's the best way to copy the files?
[11:30] <Oetzi> i mean does it show you the partition table of your disc or not
[11:31] <skaja> how do i install lilo over grub?
[11:31] <Bennett> i can't tell i don't have it connected right now, I'll be back in a sec once i got it reconnected
[11:31] <Oetzi> k
[11:32] <Oetzi> so can anyone help me: "How can i start a second x with a gnome-session"
[11:32] <Oetzi> on my first x i have a fluxbox
[11:33] <Oetzi> i have tried startx -- :1 and x starts right up an ends again
[11:35] <leleobhz> How i can set the default compiler to gcc-3.3 on ubuntu?
[11:35] <Bennett> ok I'm back
[11:35] <joseph_> ~_~ anyone here know much about getting webcams to work under ubuntu? I tried the wiki - easycam2 but when i run it its doesn't detect my webcam
[11:36] <Bennett> what did you want me to do Oetzi?
[11:36] <leleobhz> someone?
[11:36] <gouchi> Hi
[11:37] <gouchi> I have installed openssh-server
[11:37] <gouchi> I try to connect to my machine
[11:37] <Oetzi> Bennett: try a fdisk -l /dev/sd{a,b} or whatever the harddisk is
[11:37] <gouchi> but it always Permission denied, please try again
[11:37] <gouchi> and I'm sure it's the good password
[11:38] <osfameron> try again with the bad password?
[11:38] <Oetzi> and look if there is really no partition-table on your disk
[11:38] <gouchi> osfameron : why ? :)
[11:38] <Bennett> ok it says: device /dev/sda bootable start 1  end 24321 blocks 195358421 id 83 system linux
[11:39] <gouchi> osfameron : same message obviously
[11:39] <Bennett> wich is right
[11:39] <osfameron> gouchi: sorry, poor attempt at joke :-)
[11:39] <gouchi> lol
[11:39] <Bennett> i think
[11:40] <Oetzi> k and what is your problem then with getting off the data?
[11:41] <snowblink> gouchi, can you connect on the host itself?
[11:41] <F1R3_C00L> People can help me with send File with Bluetooth in GNOME ????
[11:41] <Mantice> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System' Could some one explane what's wrong?
[11:41] <gouchi> snowblink : I have only ssh
[11:41] <Oetzi> just mount it somewhere and cp the data you need Bennett
[11:41] <Bennett> k I'll try
[11:42] <snowblink> gouchi, you said you installed openssh-server, so see if you can ssh when you're on the box itself.
[11:42] <snowblink> gouchi, ie. ssh localhost
[11:42] <gouchi> nope
[11:42] <Oetzi> just mkdir /mnt/datasave
[11:42] <gouchi> I don't have acces directly on the machine right now
[11:42] <Bennett> i just tryed to mount it and it's says wrongs fs type, bad option, etc...
[11:42] <Oetzi> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/datasave
[11:43] <Oetzi> mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/datasave -t ext{2,3}
[11:43] <Bennett> same thing
[11:43] <F1R3_C00L> Where is Czech Ubuntu IRC please ?
[11:43] <kemik> !cz
[11:43] <ubotu> kemik: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:43] <kemik> hmm
[11:43] <snowblink> gouchi, well tricky to troubleshoot then. At a guess - your ssh server isn't running on the port, or there is a firewall in the way.
[11:44] <F1R3_C00L> !cz
[11:44] <kemik> guess there is no czech channel ?
[11:44] <gouchi> snowblink : nope network conf it's ok
[11:44] <sunzzzzzzzz> Apt doesn't work
[11:44] <sunzzzzzzzz> It says W: Couldn't stat source package list
[11:44] <kemik> F1R3_C00L: try #ubuntu-cz
[11:44] <sunzzzzzzzz> What does that mean?
[11:44] <F1R3_C00L> kemik: thanks
[11:44] <Frogzoo> sunzzzzzzzz: means the repo is uncontacable atm
[11:44] <F1R3_C00L> join #ubuntu-cz
[11:45] <kemik> F1R3_C00L: np, but it doesnt look very active
[11:45] <Oetzi> Bennett: plz paste me the whole output into a query
[11:45] <mlopes> hi. how can I replace the gnome-screensaver by the xscreensaver for good? the daemon isn't activated at boot
[11:45] <F1R3_C00L> kemik: Do you speak Czech ?
[11:45] <Bennett> root@ubuntu:/home/admin# mount /dev/sda1 /media/Storage2
[11:45] <Bennett> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[11:45] <Bennett>        missing codepage or other error
[11:45] <Bennett>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[11:45] <Bennett>        dmesg | tail  or so
[11:45] <Madpilot> Sunbug, which repo are you using?
[11:45] <mlopes> i have to manually start screensaver each time to activate it
[11:45] <Madpilot> Bennett, use a pastebin!
[11:45] <sunzzzzzzzz> W: Couldn't stat source package list
[11:45] <kemik> F1R3_C00L: nope :/
[11:46] <Bennett> how do i do that
[11:46] <sunzzzzzzzz> Anyone know what that means?
[11:46] <mlopes> Bennett, try mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/Storage2
[11:46] <sunzzzzzzzz> apt doesn't work for me...
[11:46] <mlopes> but still, that should be done automatically
[11:46] <Bennett> it's not a fat driv eto it's ext3
[11:46] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, it means there is a problem with the repositories you've got apt-get using
[11:46] <mlopes> the media should be mounted automatically
[11:46] <Frogzoo> sunzzzzzzzz: learn to read ^^^^
[11:46] <mlopes> in that case
[11:46] <mlopes> -t ext3
[11:46] <sunzzzzzzzz> Madpilot, but there is nothing wrong with it
[11:47] <Bennett> I do but it won't mount
[11:47] <sunzzzzzzzz> Madpilot, I can see it in firefox
[11:47] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, do "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and put the results on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[11:47] <Oetzi> bennett next time use /msg Oetzi or the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:47] <Mantice> Failed to construct test pipeline for 'OSS - Open Sound System' Could some one explane what's wrong?
[11:47] <F1R3_C00L> kemik: Czech IRC Ubuntu is not good
[11:47] <snowblink> gouchi, your username is the same on both systems?
[11:47] <Bennett> it says from dmesg that there is a corrupt root inode
[11:48] <propagandhi> Bennet: fsck
[11:48] <gouchi> snowblink : both ?
[11:49] <Oetzi> yes try fsck.ext3 /dev/sda1
[11:49] <mustard5> I'm surprised there are not many diary/journal apps in synaptic
[11:49] <Bennett> ok I'm doing that now
[11:49] <mustard5> There seems to be quite a shortage of them around :)
[11:50] <skaja> gnome.org is not loading
[11:50] <redblade> Hi Everyone
[11:50] <preist_> hi redlade
[11:50] <preist_> redblade
[11:50] <gouchi> skaja : works here
[11:50] <redblade> I'm not having much luck in  #mysql
[11:50] <preist_> what is your architecture?
[11:51] <redblade> COuld someone help me? Or try to?
[11:51] <Ekushey> in which file do ubuntu puts "/var/www" documentroot? it's not in apacha2.conf or httpd.conf!
[11:51] <Bennett> ok fsck is done and gave me a mesage
[11:51] <redblade> I'm on breezy, and when I type /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqladmin status
[11:51] <gnomefreak> redblade: i think preist_ is talking to you
[11:51] <bimberi> Ekushey: /etc/apache2/sites-available  (iirc)
[11:51] <redblade> oh sorry
[11:52] <redblade> architecture?
[11:52] <propagandhi> Bennett: the message is.........
[11:52] <Oetzi> what message Bennett ? if it's longer than 2 lines use pastebin
[11:52] <Tomcat__> Ekushey: It's in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled afaik
[11:52] <redblade> Breezy, amd xp
[11:52] <gnomefreak> 32bit?
[11:52] <Bennett> what is a past bin, this is my first time on irc
[11:52] <redblade> I think so
[11:52] <colm> !paste
[11:52] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:52] <Bennett> !paste fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Bennett about pastebin
[11:52] <Bennett> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[11:52] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Bennett
[11:53] <Oetzi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org <- thats a pastebin
[11:53] <preist_> Ubuntu for Sparc64 is coming out soon
[11:53] <redblade> preist_? Can you help?
[11:53] <propagandhi> Bennett: is there data on the partition u need
 Ekushey: It's in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled afaik <-- why did ubuntu make it this way? this is so strage!
[11:53] <redblade> I'm really stuck
[11:54] <Piddy> Hello?
[11:54] <Piddy> Can I get some help please?
[11:54] <preist_> redblade, are you on linux/windows/solaris/freebsd/osx ?
[11:54] <Oetzi> you can put your output there on the website and give us only the url
[11:54] <Ekushey> Tomcat__: thanks, it's there :)
[11:54] <redblade> Ubuntu, Breezy
[11:54] <mustard5> Piddy, it really depends on the question
[11:54] <Piddy> How can i get Azureus?
[11:54] <preist_> also what is your arch: x86/Sparc/PPC /
[11:54] <mustard5> !azureus
[11:54] <ubotu> from memory, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:54] <Piddy> !azureus
[11:55] <redblade> preist_, not sure
[11:55] <sunzzzzzzzz> Madpilot
[11:55] <sunzzzzzzzz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9588
[11:55] <gnomefreak> :( Piddy just read the above
[11:55] <redblade> Will it affect mysql?
[11:55] <Piddy> Thanks!
[11:55] <redblade> everyone has a different answer
[11:55] <preist_> redblade, no it will affect the answer of your problem
[11:55] <Tomcat__> Ekushey: That's not the Ubuntu way, it's the Debian way... and if you think some time about it, it makes much sense.
[11:55] <preist_> redblade this is why you have to be specific
[11:55] <redblade> preist_, where do I look to find out?
[11:56] <preist_> phpinfo() for php
[11:56] <Oetzi> bennett open fdisk with fdisk /dev/sda
[11:56] <preist_> create a file namedi phpinfo.php and insert the code <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[11:56] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, what's that from? Type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in your terminal, without the quotes, so we can make sure your sources.list is OK...
[11:56] <propagandhi> Bennett: or cfdisk
[11:56] <preist_> redblade, This will show you all the apache modules
[11:56] <sunzzzzzzzz> Madpilot, that's what I typed
[11:57] <Oetzi> than use p to print the table it founds
[11:57] <sunzzzzzzzz> And that's what it said in the terminal
[11:57] <sunzzzzzzzz> The gui thing is blank
[11:57] <preist_> redblade, I'm not an apache expert, but if you want to get an answer you have to find everything, the version of your apache.. and why are you on #ubuntu?
[11:57] <ocxic> hey I'm back it bennet
[11:57] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, try just "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then
[11:57] <jimcooncat> I want to start over on partitioning, I've made a new partition, what's the best way to copy the files?
[11:57] <sunzzzzzzzz> But it says "sourses.list' (/home/me/' /etc/apt)
[11:57] <ocxic> sorry my computer froze due to another problem with antother harddrive
[11:57] <Oetzi> if the information you got is right than use w to write this partition table to the disk
[11:58] <redblade> preist_, I'm on #ubuntu because I'm ON ubuntu!
[11:58] <redblade> as in using it
[11:58] <redblade> as in why else?
[11:58] <Oetzi> after that try the fsck again
[11:58] <redblade> Also becaus enobody answered in #mysql
[11:58] <gnomefreak> redblade: what he is trying to say there is a #apache channel also
[11:59] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, what says that, where? You need to be clearer, nobody but you can see your computer screen...
[11:59] <sunzzzzzzzz> Madpilot,
[11:59] <sunzzzzzzzz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9589
[11:59] <ocxic> tell me about this pastbin again
[11:59] <redblade> I don't need help with apache, yet
[11:59] <tapasko> good morning :)
[11:59] <gnomefreak> lol @yet
[11:59] <Oetzi> i'll have to go now but will be back again in about 45 minutes
[11:59] <preist_> redblade, i ment you should go to something like #apache or #mysql
[11:59] <Oetzi> good luck Bennett
[11:59] <redblade> preist_, oh right sorry
[11:59] <preist_> there are guys that know better there
[11:59] <redblade> lol
[11:59] <ocxic> ok I'll be here when you get back if it's not goin bood thcx
[11:59] <gnomefreak> there are here too but i think they are still sleeping
[12:00] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, paste this sources.list into yours, save it, and re-try your apt-get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:00] <Mantice> Could some one give me some help on how to get ET's Sound working
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Mantice: on mine i just squeeze his hand :(
[12:00] <Madpilot> Mantice, in a terminal, "killall esd" then "et" - when you shut down ET, type "esd"
[12:01] <Mantice> lol
[12:01] <sunzzzzzzzz> Madpilot
[12:01] <sunzzzzzzzz> It still have that error
[12:02] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, type "sudo apt-get update" then try your apt-get install
[12:02] <jimcooncat> can I just use 'cp -a /source /dest'  to copy everything from one partition to another?
[12:02] <Mantice> did not work for me
[12:02] <sunzzzzzzzz> Madpilot, I am only doing apt-cache search blah at this point.
[12:03] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, "apt-get update" forces a reload of your sources.list, so the new one will be used
[12:03] <sunzzzzzzzz> :o
[12:03] <[Leo] > ho all
[12:03] <[Leo] > *hi
[12:03] <gnomefreak> ho to you too
[12:03] <gnomefreak> 'hi*
[12:03] <malv> what are the critical changes in dapper?
[12:04] <Mantice> It justs plays with no sound
[12:04] <sunzzzzzzzz> Thanks madpilot!!!
[12:05] <snowblink> gouchi, both systems = the system you are sshing from and to. Basically, make sure you're logging in with a valid user
[12:05] <gnomefreak> malv: newer packages new packages
[12:05] <Madpilot> Mantice, ET seems to have buggy sound - try "killall esd" then "esd" then starting ET - I'm never quite sure when it's going to work
[12:05] <sunzzzzzzzz> Anyone know what's the difference between svn and cvs?
[12:05] <Madpilot> sunzzzzzzzz, apt-get works now
[12:05] <Madpilot> ?
[12:05] <sunzzzzzzzz> Yup!!!
[12:05] <sunzzzzzzzz> It works now!!!
[12:05] <redblade> ?
[12:05] <gouchi> snowblink : yep it's ok
[12:05] <Madpilot> need sleep - later, all
[12:06] <[Leo] > i've a problem with fglrx... :P
[12:07] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : you wont get an answer that way try asking your question/stating your issue
[12:07] <Mantice> Could it be that my OSS dont work ?
[12:07] <[Leo] > i''ve installed fglrx, but i can't find fglrx-kernel for my kernel version
[12:07] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : thats good
[12:08] <[Leo] > gnomefreak, my engliush is orrible
[12:08] <saif> finally, finished my ubuntu installation, tomcat, mysql and eclipse along with all other stuff i need, now this is the configuration i want always! can i burn a bootable image of the whole thing!?
[12:08] <[Leo] > so i need time...
[12:08] <[Leo] > :D
[12:08] <gnomefreak> fglrx iirc you have to build into the kernel for it too work other than drivers
[12:08] <[Leo] > so i have to download fglrx-sources and compile it?
[12:08] <[Leo] > right?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> saif: when you find out how let me know please
[12:09] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : why not just get the drivers for it why compile a kernel?
[12:10] <[Leo] > but i can't find de fglrx kernel for 2.6.15
[12:10] <Mantice> This is the sound error I get /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[12:10] <Mantice> Could not mmap /dev/dsp
[12:10] <saif> gnomefreak, ok, if i find out! :)
[12:10] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : i think its built into the dapper kernel already
[12:10] <omerix> is tehere any program to hide ip in linux like "hide ip" in windows
[12:11] <propagandhi> omerix: what are u afraid of
[12:11] <[Leo] > i'm on a dapper
[12:11] <BlackJack21> algun espaol?
[12:11] <Seveas> !es
[12:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:11] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : yes i know so am i
[12:11] <propagandhi> omerix: someone tracking ur naughty activities, or getting hacked
[12:11] <[Leo] > so to make fglrx work i have to:
[12:11] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : that is not gonna chage the fact that there is not a seperate kernel for fglrx
[12:11] <Seveas> [Leo] , install the restricted-modules package for your kernel
[12:12] <Seveas> that contains fglrx
[12:12] <rixth> Question: how cracked are the x86 MacBooks? Can *nix be put on them yet?
[12:12] <[Leo] > Seveas, i've already installed
[12:12] <[Leo] > ok
[12:12] <omerix> propagandhi: no i wonder
[12:12] <Seveas> rixth, it has been done
[12:12] <bliss1> hello all
[12:12] <[Leo] > can i paste Xorg error?
[12:12] <rixth> Seveas, but it is not simple?
[12:12] <Seveas> [Leo] , use a pastebin
[12:12] <rixth> [Leo] , not here. www.pastebin.com
[12:12] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : use pastebin
[12:12] <propagandhi> omerix: ???
[12:12] <Seveas> rixth, no idea, didn't try myself 
[12:12] <[Leo] > ok
[12:13] <RaoulDuke> hey guys
[12:13] <preist_> hey RaoulDuke!!
[12:13] <RaoulDuke> got a question for anyone whos up for it
[12:13] <bliss1> vannot log into ubuntu forums so will ask a question where is the appliation that deals with power management in desktop 5.10
[12:13] <bliss1> cannot
[12:13] <RaoulDuke> lol :)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> RaoulDuke: if you ask it people might beable to answer it
[12:13] <joseph_> Um.... how would I install a .deb package?
[12:13] <RaoulDuke> wheres breezy's source kept? directory wise?
[12:14] <RaoulDuke> im trying to build a VPN client but it needs the source
[12:14] <gnomefreak> joseph_:dpkg -i file.deb
[12:14] <joseph_> blah thanks i was using atp get lol
[12:14] <preist_> or google search
[12:14] <gnomefreak> joseph_: apt-get works too if you getting the package from apt repos
[12:14] <preist_> or emerge breezy (in gentoo linux)
[12:15] <bliss1> I want o install postfix also on its own with just one or two accounts admin and user no smtp auth just plain and simple is it just amatter of apt-get install postfix and then amend conf file to my host name
[12:16] <[Leo] > well
[12:17] <[Leo] > http://pastebin.com/578165
[12:17] <preist_> [Leo]  what is this link?
[12:17] <HymnToLife> can anyone help me out with firestater ? I'm going nuts:/
[12:17] <bliss1> Seveas any offers
[12:18] <Hysty> HymnToLife, whats wrong?
[12:18] <[Leo] > i used pastebin!
[12:18] <saif> gnomefreak, i found this, but for me it's way too complicated, maybe u know what the guy is talking about! :) good luck! http://www.geocities.com/potato.geo/bootlinuxcd.html
[12:19] <HymnToLife> Hysty > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137860
[12:20] <[Leo] > what's wrong with pastebin?
[12:21] <bliss1> any offers anybody re postfix question
[12:21] <tecs> how come my fonts change sometimes even though i did not change it?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> saif: ok im looking at it now
[12:21] <Bennett> hey
[12:22] <Bennett> anyone know how to fix a corrupt inode
[12:23] <F1R3_C00L> Any help me with compile wassistan ?? (I have problem with make error: sh: msgfmt: command not found)
[12:23] <shrikant> lo ppl
[12:23] <ezech> lo
[12:23] <shrikant> i havnt tried ubuntu yet
[12:24] <ezech> me neither
[12:24] <shrikant> but hopin sm1 here has
[12:24] <HymnToLife> F1R3_C00L > have you tried sudo apt-get build-dep wassistan ?
[12:24] <shrikant> thou im using suse i wanna giv ubuntu a shot
[12:24] <gnomefreak> saif: if at all possible i wouldnt use his way
[12:24] <[Leo] > could someone read this: http://pastebin.com/578165?
[12:24] <ezech> shrikant: why not change keyboard for a working one in the first place? ;)
[12:25] <gnomefreak> saif: im htinking there is an easier way
[12:25] <saif> gnomefreak, ok, i guess i found a simpler method to do it ( or i think it might work ) use http://www.partimage.org/ to create the image, burn to disc, then boot with any live cd, and restore the image to an empty partition
[12:25] <shrikant> woot?
[12:25] <shrikant> workin keyboard??? o_o
[12:26] <ezech> yup
[12:26] <ezech> one that displays 'g' for example
[12:26] <saif> gnomefreak, yeah, i hoped so, it would be cool if there was a tool, that just dumped ur partition into a dvd and then creating some kind of boot installation for it
[12:26] <shrikant> LMAO
[12:26] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : leo its saying that the restricted mod package is not matching you kernel version
[12:26] <F1R3_C00L> HymToLife: I can't use APT install becase software need packages (I haven't got packages)
[12:26] <gnomefreak> saif: nope no tool that i know of
[12:27] <[Leo] > yes, and i've no idea how to solve it!
[12:27] <shrikant> so nobody has tried Ubuntu!!!!!!!!
[12:27] <HymnToLife> F1R3_C00L > what d'you mean you "havn't got packages" ?
[12:27] <[Leo] > i can't find fglrx-kernel-2.6.15.balbla.deb
[12:27] <HymnToLife> apt-get build-dep will install all the packages you need in order to build your thing
[12:27] <Seveas> [Leo] , you don't need it
[12:28] <Seveas> it's in the linux-restricted-modues-blabla packages
[12:28] <saif> gnomefreak, oh well, we'll just have to do it the hard way! good luck!
[12:28] <ezech> of course not, it's slackware users #
[12:28] <[Leo] > Seveas, i've installed it... so maybe there are 2 versions installed?
[12:29] <saif> gnomefreak, http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page and bootimage should be all we need! :)
[12:29] <saif> bye
[12:30] <Seveas> [Leo] , where did you isntall it from?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> dont forget apt-get install build-essential  (yes my fav meta package)
[12:31] <[Leo] > apt-get
[12:31] <Seveas> it's not in any standard repository
[12:31] <Seveas> and the external ones I know for ati drivers are only for *breezy*
[12:32] <[Leo] > so i can't install it, right?
[12:33] <[Leo] > but i'm sure the modules are for my kernel version
[12:33] <Crazy|One> I am trying to to install need for speed underground 2 on ubuntu using wine.  managed to get the first half of installation to work, but I need to insert cd2.  I cannot unmount the cdrom, telling me its busy.  how can I work around this without having to close my installation pls
[12:33] <Oetzi> re
[12:34] <[-DevinE-] > salz
[12:34] <Oetzi> Bennett: have you tried to write the ne partition table
[12:34] <saif> [Leo] , did u try installing the drivers provided from ati?
[12:35] <[Leo] > saif, yes... compilation error!
[12:35] <[Leo] > compilation???
[12:35] <[Leo] > is it right?
[12:35] <F1R3_C00L> HymnToLife: Please you can answer on private message ?
[12:36] <Crazy|One> anybody?
[12:36] <[Leo] > Crazy|One, try install it with ISO
[12:36] <[Leo] > not with CDs
[12:36] <ara> try #cedega
[12:37] <Crazy|One> [Leo]  how do you mean?
[12:37] <[Leo] > make the iso of the cds
[12:37] <saif> [Leo] , hm do u have all the required stuff for the compilation? gcc3.4 module-assistant fakeroot etc.?
[12:37] <Crazy|One> ok
[12:37] <[Leo] > saif, sure! i've tried a lot of time
[12:38] <Crazy|One> hmm now I closed the installer
[12:38] <[-DevinE-] > romani pe aici ?
[12:38] <Crazy|One> and the cdrom still wont unmount :s
[12:39] <saif> [Leo] , i had a shit load of trouble getting it to work, i removed the restricted modules, fglrx-driver-xorg and anything that was installed, then tried again and it worked, i am not an expert, but this worked for me!
[12:39] <rixth> If I want Linux support. What brand of Laptop do I want?
[12:39] <[Leo] > saif, thanks, i'll try it again!
[12:39] <[-DevinE-] > rixth:.:  asus
[12:39] <[Leo] > Crazy|One, use lsof
[12:39] <Jewishbob> can someone help me with wine
[12:39] <[-DevinE-] > with gforce card
[12:39] <saif> [Leo] , good luck! it is a bitch!
[12:40] <[-DevinE-] >  for help with WINE use #wine
[12:40] <Crazy|One> [Leo]  what does that d?
[12:40] <Crazy|One> do?
[12:40] <[Leo] > lsof <filename>
[12:40] <Crazy|One> filename being what?
[12:40] <Crazy|One> cd?
[12:40] <[Leo] > tell you which process is using that file
[12:41] <[Leo] > /dev/hdc for example
[12:41] <[Leo] > filename should be your cd device
[12:41] <Crazy|One> ok
[12:41] <[-DevinE-] > dos anyone knoe a cool MMORPG for linux ?
[12:42] <Crazy|One> lsof    13453 chris  cwd    DIR    3,0 2048 3456 /media/cdrom0 <-------- this is my response, I am sorry but it dont make sense to me
[12:42] <Toma-> [-DevinE-] , planeshift
[12:42] <[-DevinE-] > Toma-:.:  how it it .. nice graphics and whts the site ?
[12:43] <[Leo] > where can i find ALL the required stuff for ati drivers?
[12:43] <kosachev> I found a bug in ubuntu fluxbox - nls files with koi8-r encoding, and default ubuntu locales is utf-8
[12:43] <[Leo] > for the installer
[12:43] <Toma-> [-DevinE-] , hang on a sec
[12:43] <[-DevinE-] > okt Toma-
[12:43] <[-DevinE-] > oky*
[12:43] <usermax> hello
[12:44] <[-DevinE-] > hi :P
[12:44] <Jewishbob> so how can i save a windows executable file on my linux partition?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell [Leo]  about ati
[12:45] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : your pm will have info on them
[12:45] <[Leo] > thanks a lot!!
[12:45] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:45] <usermax> just save the EXE-file to your ubuntu system
[12:45] <gnomefreak> than run wine file.exe
[12:46] <gnomefreak> assuming wine is installed already
[12:46] <F1R3_C00L> How install mgmt command to terminal or konsole ?
[12:46] <Toma-> [-DevinE-] , http://www.happypenguin.org/show?PlaneShift
[12:46] <[-DevinE-] > 10x allot Toma-
[12:46] <Jewishbob> ok i got that when i install the program it wont let me install it to the linux part
[12:46] <Toma-> [-DevinE-] , try looking around happypenguin.org for more mmorpgs :)
[12:46] <gnomefreak> if mgmt is in repos its sudo apt-get install mgmt
[12:46] <[-DevinE-] > oky
[12:46] <[Leo] > i missed build-essential.... O_O
[12:46] <[Leo] > shit!!!!!!!!!
[12:47] <gnomefreak> [Leo] : grab it now than
[12:47] <[Leo] > let's try again....
[12:47] <Jewishbob> when i install the program it wont let me install it to the linux partition
[12:47] <F1R3_C00L> gnomefreak: pack is not found ?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Jewishbob: what program?
[12:48] <Jewishbob> its absolute poker
[12:48] <usermax> cu
[12:48] <gnomefreak> F1R3_C00L: give me 2 secs on that
[12:49] <gnomefreak> F1R3_C00L: is this the power utlity you are wanting?
[12:49] <F1R3_C00L> gnomefreak: You can find any source where was mgmt pack ?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> F1R3_C00L: sudo apt-get install powermgmt-base
[12:49] <spliff> apt-cache search worms
[12:50] <F1R3_C00L> gnomefreak: The pack I need with compile software
[12:50] <Jewishbob> gnomefreak: i installed wine...ran the install prog...when it installs it will only let it install to the windows partition
[12:50] <gnomefreak> F1R3_C00L: ok lets start over what does mgmt do?
[12:50] <[Leo] >  No kernel module build environment
[12:50] <[Leo] > what's that??
[12:51] <F1R3_C00L> gnomefreak: this pack I have installed
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Jewishbob: i have never used wine but for more info try #wine-hq or just #wine cant remember whitch
[12:51] <gnomefreak> F1R3_C00L: you have it installed?
[12:52] <volodya> this might sound very dumb... i've just installed ubuntu and all is awesome, except what is my root password?
[12:52] <colm> !rootsudo
[12:52] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:52] <gnomefreak> volodya: use sudo and its your user password
[12:52] <volodya> ok, thanks
[12:53] <dentist> guys anyone ever used a cisco wireless card on ubuntu
[12:53] <dentist> trying to figure out what module i need to install
[12:53] <osku> #ubuntu-fi
[12:53] <F1R3_C00L> gnomefreak: Please you can view private message. I send you proccess compilation
[12:54] <gnomefreak> F1R3_C00L: no you didnt
[12:54] <volodya> ok, it's working... q;-)
[12:54] <gnomefreak> F1R3_C00L: it wont allow you too unless your nick is registered with nickserv
[12:54] <dentist> nm, its put the device as ath0 didnt spot that
[12:54] <volodya> now... how do i change the keyboard layout?
[12:54] <F1R3_C00L> gnomefreak: How I can send ?
[12:55] <colm> volodya, in gnome, system>prefs>keyboard
[12:55] <Seveas> gnomefreak, /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Seveas: yeah see i know better than that now i learned my lesson
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ok go for it now
[12:56] <F1R3_C00L> gnomefreak: please wait... I go registed.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> F1R3_C00L: you should beable to pm me now
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Seveas: to set it back just use unfiltered off?
[12:57] <Seveas> yep
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ok
[12:57] <ompaul> gnomefreak, 3 second pm?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> your here this am so ill let it be for now i had some guy pming me all the time i had to block him because he wouldnt use the channel
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ompaul: from you sure
[12:59] <bag> anyone have an ibook or a bcm43xx wireless card?
[01:00] <bag> the bcm43xx driver dosn't work for me, anyone else have problems with it?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> bag: no  sorry
[01:01] <bag> gnomefreak, no prblem :-)
[01:01] <michele> hello, anybody tried to build metacity with compositor enabled?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> bag: people do come in here using them sometimes
[01:02] <Ekushey> i want to change the "Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80" text... how can i do it?
[01:03] <Seveas> Ekushey, loook for "signature" in the apache config
[01:03] <bag> gnomefreak, i don't know what i make wrong, and will wait for those people
[01:03] <Ekushey> Seveas: ok thanks
[01:03] <Ekushey> Seveas: is it apache2.conf?
[01:04] <F1R3_C00L> gnomefreak: please connect to channel #ubuntu-wifi
[01:04] <Seveas> Ekushey, /etc/apache/*
[01:04] <corwin> quick question, on the windoze version of Firefox there's an option to force _blank targets to open in a new tab or open in the same tab. I can't seem to find it in the linux version, has anyone been able to use this option for linux?
[01:04] <YogSothoth> Hi
[01:05] <YogSothoth> I just installed Ubuntu and my mouse has a weird behavior: when I push the wheel up or down under Firefox, it acts like back and forward buttons! How can I disable this?
[01:06] <Ekushey> Seveas: i got only one file with the text "ServerSignature On"
[01:07] <foxpaul> any ideas how i can mount a reiser partition from one machine to that it seems local on another?
[01:07] <shoods> Bonjour, je voulais savoir. J'ai une machine avec un AMD64, et j'aimerai bien installer linux. Esceque je suis obliger d'installer la version AMD64 d'ubuntu, ou je peu tres bien installer la version pour Intel X86 ? Merci
[01:07] <colm> !fr
[01:07] <gnomefreak> !fr
[01:07] <ubotu> methinks fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[01:08] <Ekushey> Seveas: apache in ubuntu is so strange!
[01:08] <user_unknown> Hi, <br> ubuntuusers.de is down?
[01:10] <colm> shoods, la version pour Intel X86 c'est bien avec un AMD64.
[01:10] <ompaul> !es
[01:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:10] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-de is down?
[01:10] <ompaul> !fr
[01:10] <ubotu> I guess fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[01:10] <user_unknown> bye
[01:10] <user_unknown> au revoir
[01:10] <ompaul> user_unknown, ehh it appears not to be talking
[01:10] <ompaul> ohh well
[01:12] <stjepan> how does fglrx (64bit) work with modular X (xorg7)? Anyone tried it?
[01:12] <savon> !acer
[01:12] <ubotu> savon: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:13] <savon> wireles
[01:13] <corwin> !firefox
[01:13] <savon> !wireles
[01:13] <ubotu> savon: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:13] <savon> !wierles
[01:13] <ubotu> savon: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:13] <gnomefreak> can you guys please use /msg ubotu factoid or if you need help ask
[01:13] <savon> help me out!
[01:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell savon about wireless
[01:13] <stjepan> !wireless
[01:13] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell corwin about ff1.5
[01:13] <savon> thank you!
[01:14] <gnomefreak> read your pms both of you guys
[01:14] <xiaoyu> is there a  TeX chanel
[01:14] <F1R3_C00L> !ubuntu file msgfmt
[01:14] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, F1R3_C00L
[01:14] <corwin> I did ask. Do you know how to set "Open in new window" targets (target="_blank") in a new tab or in the same tab in the linux version of firefox
[01:15] <corwin> Because I know the windoze version has it in the preference menu
[01:15] <gnomefreak> corwin: in the settings options
[01:15] <gnomefreak> corwin: same place
[01:15] <corwin> *shakes head* It should be under Advanced, it isn't
[01:15] <nbjayme> hello i am experiencing a terrible bug in ubuntu.
[01:15] <corwin> I also checked General and Web Features
[01:16] <gnomefreak> nbjayme: and that might be?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> corwin: hold on let me find it
[01:16] <corwin> gnomefreak,  thanks man
[01:16] <colm> corwin, Edit > Preferences > Tabs > Force...
[01:16] <nbjayme> i deleted a 20mb mp3 audio but it plays that file. totem is not running.
[01:16] <colm> corwin, (on ff 1.5)
[01:16] <savon> how can I loock after wifi networks in linux?
[01:16] <corwin> colm, lemme try that real quick
[01:16] <gnomefreak> corwin: edit>prefferences>tabs
[01:17] <jono_> OK, everyone, this is a blatant pimp for contributions to the OFFICIAL UBUNTU BOOK!! See http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=138054 for details :)
[01:17] <nbjayme> i am hearing the audio file now. i am not sure what is playing the file. but i used opened totem to play it before.
[01:18] <[Leo] > ehm... another problem
[01:18] <[Leo] > gnome-session-properties is bugged
[01:18] <savon> is kubuntu better than ubuntu?
[01:18] <nbjayme> gnomefreak, i am doing ps -aux | grep -i totem i do not see the application.
[01:18] <[Leo] > i can't delete any pricess at startup
[01:18] <xiaoyu> is there a  TeX channe . can anybody tell me l
[01:18] <[Leo] > savon, kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[01:18] <YogSothoth> I just re-installed Ubuntu and my mouse has a weird behavior: when I push the wheel up or down under Firefox, it acts like back and forward buttons! How can I disable this? The first time I installed Ubuntu it did not do that...
[01:19] <gnomefreak> nbjayme:  try ps aux   see if that gives you a player
[01:19] <savon> its the only thing that is change?
[01:19] <[Leo] > savon, yes
[01:19] <gnomefreak> savon: kubuntu is better than ubuntu for some people
[01:19] <savon> ok:D
[01:19] <gnomefreak> i perfer xubuntu but this is an offtopic matter
[01:19] <[Leo] > savon, if you prefer kde, install it!
[01:20] <nbjayme> gnomefreak, i do not see any player running.  this is really strange.
[01:20] <nbjayme> gnomefreak, i am using ubuntu-breezy.
[01:20] <savon> it dousnt matter I think!
[01:20] <osfameron> does kubuntu get the testing and the usability stuff that ubuntu gets, or is it less of a consumer product and more tweak-it-yourself ?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> osfameron: kubuntu and ubuntu are the same with the exception to the desktop
[01:21] <defrysk> osfameron, kubuntu is of the same quality as ubuntu
[01:21] <[Leo] > which config file gnome-session-properties uses?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> and apps
[01:21] <HymnToLife> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same
[01:21] <savon> I just having problems white geting my wifi card working and my ati card and that my movies is playing to fast!
[01:21] <HymnToLife> juste the GUI is different
[01:21] <corwin> gnomefreak, colm, Tabs? Where are you finding this? I see Advanced/Tabbed Browsing, but under this it only has Open Links From Other Applications In:
[01:21] <nbjayme> gnomefreak, is mpg123 a player?
[01:21] <gnomefreak> corwin: what version of ff do you have?
[01:21] <defrysk> nbjayme, yes
[01:21] <colm> YogSothoth, the mighty cthulhu orders you to read the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:21] <savon> but I like Gnom!
[01:21] <xiaoyu> is there a tex channel
[01:21] <gnomefreak> nbjayme: it might be
[01:21] <colm> corwin, I have firefox 1.5, ymmv
[01:21] <[Leo] > savon, so use ubuntu with gnome :)
[01:21] <nbjayme> gnomefreak, hmmm..... ok i will kill this.
[01:22] <corwin> gnomefreak, I'm not being bothered to update anything so theoretically 1.5
[01:22] <corwin> but let me double check
[01:22] <HymnToLife> I always have both gnome and KDE installed anyway :p
[01:22] <HymnToLife> so for me the only difference is the splash screen on bootup :D
[01:22] <nbjayme> defrysk, gnomefreak: that did it.  :D  so totem is using that to play mp3 files?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> corwin: click on edit than click on preffereneces than click on tabs on the top
[01:22] <savon> ok! but ubunto says that mu wifi shall work out of box!
[01:22] <savon> But I dont think its working now:S
[01:22] <gnomefreak> savon: not every wifi card will work out of box
[01:23] <gnomefreak> savon: your here something is working
[01:23] <defrysk> nbjayme, I believe hovering over an mp3 in nautilus does
[01:23] <defrysk> mayby it did not shut down as it should
[01:23] <corwin> holy crap I have 1.0.7 o.o
[01:23] <corwin> sorry for wasting your time, guys, I don't know why my repositories are so far behind
[01:23] <corwin> Thanks for your help!
[01:23] <savon> yes my regular card!
[01:23] <gnomefreak> corwin: its still in the preffeences somewhere i just cant remember where
[01:24] <savon>  Aspire 5021WLMi / 5020
[01:24] <savon> 
[01:24] <savon> Broadcom,    out of box: lock like yes
[01:24] <nbjayme> defrysk, ah i see. but i have encountered it three times today because I have been working with a lot of mp3 files. it usually happens when i am about to delete the file and totem is playing other files.
[01:24] <colm> !firefox1.5
[01:24] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:24] <savon> How can I check it?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> corwin: you will not get ff1.5 from repos
[01:25] <defrysk> nbjayme, in nautilus you can turn off this feature
[01:25] <HymnToLife> mais reason I switched to Opera :p
[01:25] <HymnToLife> main*
[01:25] <gnomefreak> its too much work to backport it and to risky
[01:25] <corwin> gnomefreak, yeah, I'm compiling it now
[01:26] <nbjayme> defrysk, please guide me on that.  is it the preview files option?
[01:26] <savon> how do I SEARCH fore wifi networks?
[01:26] <defrysk> nbjayme, ist in nautilus > edit > prefs and then preview tab in prefs box
[01:27] <jind> Does anybody here know how to access a phone in konqueror which is connected via infrared? The connection is already working via another program. I think it should be possible with the obex:/ protocol, but I have not yet succeded setting up a working link in konqueror.
[01:27] <jind> Does anybody know how to do this?
[01:27] <HymnToLife> !kubuntu
[01:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[01:27] <defrysk> jind, not sure if anyone knows here if not try #kubuntu
[01:27] <jind> Alright. Thanks
[01:27] <osfameron> cool, so if I want to install kubuntu on my next upgrade do I install plain breezy first then do the apt-get after the gnome version is installed?
[01:28] <[Leo] > osfameron, yessss
[01:28] <nbjayme> defrysk, okay thanks i turned it off. the files that i deleted are the ones placed on my desktop and i receive that error. thanks so much and to gnomefreak.
[01:28] <HymnToLife> osfameron > yes
[01:28] <HymnToLife> or you can instll from the Kubuntu CD
[01:28] <[Leo] > osfameron, you'll install KDE, not kubuntu :D
[01:28] <HymnToLife> (useful if you're on dialup like me :p)
[01:28] <osfameron> right
[01:28] <defrysk> osfameron, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:29] <osfameron> ok, I have a plain Breezy install CD already downloaded and pressed, so that seems to be the lazier thing to do :-)
[01:29] <osfameron> presumably if I don't like I can just uninstall using apt-something ?
[01:29] <[Leo] > apt-get remove
[01:29] <[Leo] > :D
[01:29] <defrysk> osfameron, if you wish to use kde iso gnome also intall kdm and set it to use
[01:29] <osfameron> heh, like Start->Shutdown :-)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> for somethings
[01:31] <maxkelley> ah, that's how it works
[01:31] <defrysk> gnomefreak, like kde apps ;p
[01:32] <bigfoot1> guys, i have a  foo..py file that I want my ubuntu computer to automatically run every Wednesday (any time is fine). How do i do that?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> lol yep
[01:32] <maxkelley> bigfoot1: cron.
[01:32] <[Leo] > which config file gnome-session-properties uses?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: add it to crontab
[01:32] <[Leo] > do you know??
[01:32] <[Leo] > it's bugged
[01:32] <maxkelley> i've been wondering that myself..
[01:32] <[Leo] > and i can't delete any program
[01:32] <Mannie> can anyone say me were i can faind an italian ubuntu channel please ?
[01:32] <maxkelley> it might be .gnomerc or something
[01:32] <Hobbsee> !it
[01:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:32] <defrysk> !it
[01:32] <maxkelley> Mannie: #ubuntu-it
[01:32] <Mannie> tnx
[01:32] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: maxkelley: ok. i've never used them before. what exactly must i do?
[01:32] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:33] <Ashly> Ok Soo I think I grabed the wrong ISO
[01:33] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:33] <Ashly> I burned the Live CD..
[01:33] <gnomefreak> Mannie: /j #ubuntu-it
[01:33] <Ashly> and I wanted the one I install to my hd
[01:33] <Ashly> :P
[01:33] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: how exactly do i add it to crontab?
[01:33] <ninnnu> !fi
[01:33] <ubotu> Suomenkielinen keskustelu Ubuntusta kanavalla #ubuntu-fi
[01:33] <gnomefreak> Ashly: 5.10 live cd?
[01:33] <defrysk> Ashly, not on dial up i hope ;p
[01:33] <jux> I'm going to eating
[01:34] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: i dont screw with crontab last time i did i messed up :(
[01:34] <Ashly> gomefreak, Yup, and defrysk, no I have Clearwire
[01:34] <maxkelley> bigfoot1: one sec..
[01:34] <maxkelley> let's see if ubotu has anything on cron
[01:34] <pusling> shouldn't it be possible to built kernel 2.4.something on breezy ?
[01:34] <maxkelley> !cron
[01:34] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, maxkelley
[01:34] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: ok. i won't touch crontab. what should i do then?
[01:34] <maxkelley> bah, fine
[01:34] <maxkelley> pusling: 2.6 is default.
[01:35] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: thats the only way i know of to get an app to run everyday at a certain time
[01:35] <maxkelley> bigfoot1: use the program kcron.. works fairly well.
[01:35] <gnomefreak> pusling: i dont think i wouldl try a 2.4 on ubuntu
[01:35] <maxkelley> sudo apt-get install kcron
[01:35] <bigfoot1> maxkelley: somebody suggested gcrontab. have you heard of it?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> wouldnt*
[01:36] <maxkelley> bigfoot1: nope, but it starts with a g so it might work :)
[01:36] <maxkelley> bbl
[01:36] <pusling> gnomefreak: why not ?  I don't care about udev and other stuff
[01:36] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: its gnomes crontab kcron is kubuntus
[01:36] <dimasta> hello! Everytime ubuntu starts, the sticknote-apllett shows an error... Than I must restart this aplett... How could this problem be solved?
[01:36] <savon>  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318
[01:36] <gnomefreak> pusling: because i dont know if the right libraries can be grabbed for it
[01:36] <savon> is that a problem?
[01:36] <Ashly> gnomefreak, there a way to install live cd to my hd? :P
[01:37] <gnomefreak> pusling: whats wrong with the 2.6?
[01:37] <savon> its my wifi card
[01:37] <HymnToLife> Ashly > no
[01:37] <Ashly> bummer
[01:37] <gnomefreak> Ashly: did you burn the ubuntu breezy 5.10 live cd?
[01:37] <pusling> gnomefreak: 2.6 has some buggy threadscheduling on multicore processors.
[01:37] <Ashly> gnomefreak, I did do that
[01:37] <gnomefreak> pusling: use the smp kernel
[01:37] <gnomefreak> Ashly: no breezy can not be installed from live cd
[01:37] <pusling> I do. but it is buggy
[01:38] <btdown> .
[01:38] <pusling> the computer freezes for 5-20 seconds once in a while.
[01:38] <Ashly> bummer I guess Ill download the install cd and see if I can get it to burn to a blank dvd cuse thats all I got left :(
[01:38] <bigfoot1> maxkelley, gnomefreak: i installed gcrontab, but i don't know how to navigate. please advise.
[01:38] <gnomefreak> pusling: i havent heard of that issue from people but i woulld check the bugs on it and if there isnt one file one
[01:38] <mvv> guys, how does a proper /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file looks like?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> Ashly: get the dvd iso
[01:38] <sunubuntu> parallel virtual machine(pvm) not working on ubuntu.any idea.anyone?
[01:39] <Ashly> if I can even burn from live cd..
[01:39] <mvv> because i have weird domains in it :s
[01:39] <pusling> gnomefreak: we do also here have some unusual use cases. I would like to debuig it a bit more to find the correct place to file a bug.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> pusling: to file a bug use www.launchpad.net
[01:41] <mvv> here's my http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9593    dhclient.conf  file.  Can someone take a look for me?
[01:41] <ELpH95o> how's everyone doing?
[01:41] <ELpH95o> I've learned alot about ubuntu thanks to you folks
[01:42] <pusling> gnomefreak: If I locate this bug correctly, the bug will not be filed against ubuntu, but against kernel.org.  But I would like to build a 2.4 kernel. how ?
[01:42] <Seveas> !faq is <reply> The most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look
[01:42] <ubotu> ...but faq is already something else...
[01:42] <Seveas> !faq
[01:42] <ubotu> from memory, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide is: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or http://help.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <Seveas> !no faq is <reply> The most Frequently Asked Questions of #ubuntu are summarized on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc - please have a look
[01:42] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[01:42] <ELpH95o> Thank you very much Seveas
[01:42] <savon> how do I SEARCH fore wifi networks?
[01:43] <Nitro88> hi all
[01:43] <gnomefreak> yayyyyyyyy it worked :)
[01:44] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: hello
[01:44] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: congrats
[01:44] <chuckyp> hello?
[01:44] <bigfoot1> chuckyp: hello
[01:44] <gnomefreak> ty big
[01:44] <bigfoot1> maxkelley: you busy?
[01:44] <ELpH95o> The only problem i've had with ubuntut hat i can'tfigure out is sometimes my mouse cursor turns all black
[01:46] <Nitro88> can any advice me a good server manager for gtk?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> Seveas: i like that faq but is that to get rid of some of the normal commands?
[01:47] <savon> !wifi
[01:47] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:47] <Seveas> gnomefreak, not at all
[01:47] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[01:47] <gnomefreak> good job on the page
[01:48] <Seveas> gnomefreak, thanks 
[01:48] <Nitro88> can any advice me a good server manager for gtk?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yw :)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> just hope it doesnt turn into one of those i am not reading that you tell me what it says :(
[01:49] <btdown> Anybody use irssi that has a decent customised config file they wouldnt mind sending me?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> btdown: i use it but i only use 1 script for it
[01:49] <felix_> hola
[01:49] <dave2k> ciao a tutt!
[01:49] <shukhrat> hi dear ubuntu users
[01:50] <shukhrat> i have question
[01:50] <felix_> ningun espaol
[01:50] <btdown> gnomefreak the irssi docs arent the greatest..perhaps if I saw some examples of how it was set up, it would click. ;(
[01:50] <gnomefreak> btdown: irssi.org has some really good scripts but some i wouldnt use in here as they will get you banned
[01:50] <gnomefreak> btdown: make a dir using mkdir ~/.irssi/scripts/ than add the script to there
[01:51] <btdown> gnomefreak: Im not interested in scripts beyond getting to do simple things like autoconnect and identify... like the docs say its supposed to...
[01:51] <shukhrat> have get root access
[01:51] <shukhrat> &
[01:51] <shukhrat> ?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> than in the first part of script tells you haw to use it
[01:51] <gnomefreak> btdown: that is a script
[01:51] <gnomefreak> btdown: scripts are the only way to modify irssi
[01:52] <bigfoot1> can somebody please help me use gcrontab, please???
[01:52] <gnomefreak> !gcrontab
[01:52] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[01:52] <gnomefreak> oh well tried
[01:52] <btdown> gnomefreak: well it has /commands to add servers and specify if you autologin but it doesnt work for me..I'll keep pluggin away. thanks for the info, though.
[01:53] <gnomefreak> btdown: try /help on the server page for list of commands
[01:53] <ramon> does anyone speak spanish
[01:53] <ricardo_> how can i install kde desktop in ubuntu?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> ramon: #ubuntu-es
[01:53] <btdown> gnomefreak: thanks. I'm going through the docs now. Wish me luck.
[01:53] <chuckyp> ricardo_, apt-get install kde
[01:53] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <gnomefreak> good luck
[01:53] <savon> how do I see whitch ubuntu i'v got?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> savon: lsb_release -a
[01:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !es
[01:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:54] <Ashly> Ok whats a good program to burn dvd isos ? :P
[01:55] <apokryphos> Ashly: k3b is very good
[01:55] <gnomefreak> can we add that command to ubotu? i mean everyone asks it and very few people know about it
[01:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> There's also burning built into nautilus.
[01:55] <gnomefreak> Ashly: k3b is a great one and easy to use
[01:55] <Ashly> thanks
[01:55] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: go for it
[01:56] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: more people know about cat /etc/issue, but lsb_release is good too.
[01:56] <defrysk> Ashly, richtclick the iso in nautilus and select burn
[01:56] <bliss1> hey
[01:56] <gnomefreak> trying to think of a command for it
[01:56] <cantona> any free ext3 recovery tool?
[01:57] <bliss1> trying to open nmapfe get this warning Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[01:57] <chuckyp> Ashly, and if you need to create the iso use mkisofs
[01:57] <raghu> cantona: recover tool for wat?
[01:57] <Ashly> chuckyp, I know that :)
[01:58] <Ashly> I just needed to know a good dvd burner software *giggles*
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu release <reply> To find out what release of Ubuntu you are using type this command in terminal lsb_release -a
[01:58] <ubotu> that's too long, gnomefreak
[01:58] <gnomefreak> shit
[01:58] <defrysk> Ashly, gnomebaker
[01:58] <gnomefreak> yeah i know
[01:58] <Ashly> when I started useing linux dvd burners wernt out :P
[01:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !release
[01:58] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PuMpErNiCkLe
[01:58] <Ashly> and kernel 1.x was new :P
[01:58] <gnomefreak> release is taken :(
[01:59] <ricardo_> chuckyp, gnomefreak: the console say that it can obtain some files, and pay me to execute apt-get update or --fix-missing? but i don't understand why?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:00] <nao23> Hi, is there such a thing as a  HD UAA driver  for ubuntu ? (or is this just a MS thing)(can you see i'm new to this?)
[02:00] <cantona> raggi: recover the coupped  ext3 partition
[02:00] <dan> hey. if i want to install a proper C development environment with compilers and standard libraries and all that jazz what package do i install?
[02:01] <Ashly> yay im unafilliated again *giggles*
[02:01] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, he doesn't have to kubuntu-desktop can't he just sudo apt-get install kde and it will install all its dependencies etc...
[02:01] <dan> i did apt-get install gcc a while ago but appears didnt install standard libraries
[02:01] <dan> cant even use stdio
[02:01] <dan> anyone?
[02:01] <looksaus> dan, I'm not a devel, but, most development libraries are suffixed with
[02:01] <looksaus> -dev
[02:02] <Seveas> !tell dan about compiling
[02:02] <dan> build-essential i think is what i need
[02:02] <virtus> dan: apt-get install glib-dev ?
[02:02] <dan> did a google.
[02:02] <virtus> ;p
[02:03] <shukhrat> i would like put my folder to www(apache folder) how i can do it ?
[02:03] <virtus> shukhrat: cd www
[02:03] <dan> libstdc is downloading
[02:03] <dan> that seems right
[02:03] <chuckyp> virtus, wow lol
[02:03] <shukhrat> virtus in terminal ?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> ok version has been done
[02:04] <virtus> shukhrat: no, on your DOS prompt
[02:04] <chuckyp> shukhrat, what do you want to do move the contents of a folder to the www folder?
[02:04] <chuckyp> virtus, lmao
[02:04] <virtus> hehe ;p
[02:04] <HymnToLife> shukhrat > what do you mean "my folder" ?
[02:04] <dentist> anyeone remember the name of the apt program that allows you to search for files?
[02:04] <btdown> apt-cache search <name>
[02:04] <chuckyp> dentist, apt-cache
[02:05] <nao23> Hi, is there such a thing as a  HD UAA driver  for ubuntu ? (or is this just a MS thing)(can you see i'm new to this?)
[02:05] <dentist> mm im sure it was anouter one.. you could do apt-something /usr/bin/test
[02:05] <dentist> apt-cache is installed by default, i had to apt-get this package
[02:06] <link> hola
[02:06] <link> alguien que hable espaol
[02:07] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: how can i execute --fix-missing and what does it mean?
[02:07] <chuckyp> ricardo_, what are you trying to do that you are getting that error?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: did it say to run that command?
[02:07] <shukhrat> i just want replace file in www folder
[02:08] <Qwerty> hey, guys how can I force delete unempty directory?
[02:08] <dan> rm -f
[02:08] <_jason> Qwerty: rm -rf
[02:08] <ricardo_> gnomefreak, chuckyp: no it's only to know what does it do?
[02:08] <Qwerty> ok testing
[02:08] <leobeta> hi community
[02:09] <_jason> leobeta: hello
[02:09] <gnomefreak> it will fix the missing depends i think
[02:09] <leobeta> 1st time around =D
[02:09] <whyami> Is there a built-in scheduler for Breezy? I'd like to have an event automatically happen every 24 hours.
[02:09] <Qwerty> thanks! rm -fr wokred
[02:10] <Bilange_> whyami: if thats an automated command you need to run, cron is your new friend
[02:10] <Qwerty> 1 more question for tonight ^^; I have downloaded xmmas...tar.gz how can I install it?
[02:10] <Bilange_> otherwise, ubuntu has evolution available by default-- i think. otherwise you can get it via synaptic
[02:10] <_jason> whyami: 'man 5 crontab' and 'man crontab'
[02:11] <leobeta> [_jason]  I have a starting session problem...
[02:11] <leobeta> or anybody, i dont really know how u manage around here
[02:11] <whyami> Bilange_, _jason: excellent! this is what I was looking for!
[02:11] <nao23> i guess not
[02:11] <dentist> ok anyone know how i can rename /dev/ath0 to /dev/wlan0
[02:11] <_jason> leobeta: just ask the channel and provide some details, if someone knows they will try to help
[02:12] <leobeta> nice
[02:12] <leobeta> thx..
[02:12] <chuckyp> Qwerty, well if its a source package first you have to unetract it i.e. tar xvzf xmmas...tar.gz
[02:12] <Bilange_> whyami: the man pages are a bit hard to understand if you dont know how to use it already, id suggets to google "crontab tutorial"
[02:12] <Bilange_> suggest*
[02:12] <Qwerty> dentist i think mv <filename> <newfilename>
[02:12] <chuckyp> Qwerty, then read the README file that is contained with the release it will give you instructions for compiling it.
[02:12] <dentist> surly that cant work
[02:13] <gnomefreak> extract he meant
[02:13] <whyami> Bilange_: exactly! Will do. Thanks so much.
[02:13] <Bilange_> welcome :)
[02:13] <chuckyp> dentist, you using madwifi?  Why do you want to rename it?
[02:13] <chuckyp> dentist, your best bet would probably be creating a symbolic link from /dev/ath0 to /dev/eth0
[02:14] <dentist> i want to rename it because i want to use airfart.. and airfart is badly written and only has support for a interface called wlan0
[02:14] <jerry> gm room can any one tell me weather linux likes NTFS or fat 32 file sys?
[02:14] <ricardo_> chuckyp, console gave me to options, app-get update or --fix-missing? i want to know what's this command
[02:14] <HymnToLife> jerry > linux can read/write fat32
[02:14] <Bilange_> jerry: fat32 is well suported on linux-- but NTFS its still read only :/
[02:14] <HymnToLife> abut only read ntfs
[02:14] <HymnToLife> but*
[02:14] <jerry> so i need to have fat 32 then
[02:14] <leobeta> so... i have user "xx" and i have made a script for connecting to the net, i put that script on the "startup Programs" in "Sessions", I put it with order=20, that's before metacity, but because it doesnt have the correct privileges assigned it cant be run and the X loading stay still and I have to reboot X....any idea?
[02:15] <chuckyp> ricardo_, what command are you running that it is saying that?
[02:15] <dentist> and yah it apears im using madwifi, as that default
[02:15] <chuckyp> ricardo_, did you try apt-get update  then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or whatever it was?
[02:15] <jerry> thanks to you good people
[02:15] <jerry> good day
[02:16] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file on pastebin please
[02:16] <chuckyp> dentist, why not try creating a symbolic link to /dev/wlan0 or whatever.
[02:16] <virtus> is there an option to GCC4 so I can set it to low warnings or something?
[02:16] <virtus> cause it's bugging out on all this crap that compiles fine in gcc3
[02:16] <dentist> because /dev/ath0 doesnt' apear to exist
[02:16] <bigfoot1> Ii'm trying to make a simple command. What is the linux command to make the computer printout, say, "Good morning"?
[02:16] <ricardo_> chuckyp, now it is updating. and getting new packages
[02:16] <dentist> ahh fuck it... i'll just edit the source to use ath0 instead
[02:17] <leobeta> so... i have user "xx" and i have made a script for connecting to the net, i put that script on the "startup Programs" in "Sessions", I put it with order=20, that's before metacity, but because it doesnt have the correct privileges assigned it cant be run and the X loading stay still and I have to reboot X....any idea?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> dentist: please watch your language thank you
[02:17] <bigfoot1> oh, it's "echo"
[02:17] <bigfoot1> thanks.
[02:17] <chuckyp> dentist, I would look inthe config for the madwifi drivers i'm sure it could be changed there.
[02:18] <leobeta> i need to erase that script from outside so i can re-enter my session with "xx"
[02:18] <virtus> euhm, can I install gcc3 on Ubuntu?
[02:18] <_jason> leobeta: should be in ~/.gnome2/session-manual
[02:18] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: echo will only repeate what you say print or printf might be a better string to use
[02:18] <leobeta> great
[02:18] <leobeta> let see that
[02:18] <_jason> virtus: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[02:19] <virtus> _jason: if I do that will it overwrite (/get rid of) gcc 4?
[02:19] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: thank you for your response. I'm just wanting to test out crontab
[02:19] <_jason> virtus: nope
[02:19] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: ah ok
[02:20] <virtus> _jason: so how will I use gcc3 then if I do that? gcc3 blabla ?
[02:20] <_jason> virtus: gcc-3.4 blah
[02:21] <virtus> yea, ok
[02:21] <Rambo3> good morning
[02:21] <_jason> or blabla, whatever you prefer
[02:21] <virtus> hehe :)
[02:22] <kuja> Bah! Stupid gnome died on me :P
[02:22] <ricardo_> chuckyp, gnomefreak : i use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and now it's downloading files...
[02:22] <chuckyp> ricardo_, k
[02:22] <Rambo3> i only install kde
[02:22] <kuja> Hm, I should install kubuntu-desktop too -_-;
[02:22] <elkbuntu> kuja howso?
[02:22] <HymnToLife> ricardo_ > did you enable the KDE 3.5.1 repo ?
[02:23] <kuja> elkbuntu: Messing with CD ripping software, while playing from the CD lol, for some odd reason that felt the need to crash gnome-panel and nautilus repeatedly
[02:23] <ricardo_> HymnToLife: Where can i enable this repo?
[02:23] <HymnToLife> ricardo_ > http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[02:23] <Rambo3> kde cd tools are much better then gnomes
[02:24] <elkbuntu> kuja ah
[02:24] <leobeta> [Default] 
[02:24] <leobeta> num_clients=3
[02:24] <leobeta> 0,RestartStyleHint=3
[02:24] <leobeta> 0,Priority=0
[02:24] <leobeta> 0,RestartCommand=xcompmgr -cfF
[02:24] <leobeta> 0,Program=xcompmgr
[02:24] <kuja> Yeah well KDE is much slower than GNOME, regardless of how faster Qt is than GTK.
[02:24] <HymnToLife> highly recommended to upgrade, it fixes a lot of security hole
[02:24] <leobeta> 1,RestartStyleHint=3
[02:24] <leobeta> 1,Priority=30
[02:24] <leobeta> 1,RestartCommand=dsl
[02:24] <leobeta> 1,Program=dsl
[02:24] <leobeta> 2,RestartStyleHint=3
[02:24] <leobeta> 2,Priority=50
[02:24] <_jason> leobeta: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ in the future
[02:24] <leobeta> 2,RestartCommand=gdesklets
[02:24] <leobeta> 2,Program=gdesklets
[02:24] <leobeta> 'dsl' is the command for connecting...i must erase the ones with the '1', right?
[02:24] <kuja> Geez
[02:24] <elkbuntu> !tell leobeta about pastebin
[02:24] <leobeta> thx, sorry
[02:24] <Rambo3> leaobata can you please paste your kernel source too?
[02:24] <kuja> Anyone know how to run fluxbox and gnome at the same time?
[02:25] <leobeta> fuck off
[02:25] <Rambo3> startfluxbox in terminal?
[02:25] <Rambo3> watch your language
[02:25] <kuja> Not quite familiar with how to run 2 xsessions
[02:25] <leobeta> watch your attitude
[02:25] <eri1> quotacheck -avugm gives me - quotacheck: Can't stat() mounted device /dev/sda3: No such file or directory
[02:25] <_jason> alright guys, drop it please
[02:25] <leobeta> im out of it
[02:25] <kuja> rawr
[02:26] <elkbuntu> leobeta, you're the one who needs to watch their attitude
[02:26] <eri1> quotacheck: Can't find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option
[02:26] <eri1> help?
[02:26] <osku> #ubuntu-fi
[02:26] <HymnToLife> perkele :p
[02:27] <Rambo3> moi
[02:27] <leobeta> i'm sorry about the "fckoff", i already drop it, i apologize
[02:27] <leobeta> sorry rambo3
[02:27] <leobeta> =)
[02:27] <Rambo3> np
[02:27] <leobeta> zg
[02:27] <leobeta> gz
[02:28] <jessid> hello to everybody
[02:28] <ninnnu> hello jessid
[02:29] <jessid> some of you know a good program to use voice over IP?
[02:29] <kuja> Uh, is it possible to run 2 window managers?
[02:29] <eri1> help?quotacheck -avugm gives me - quotacheck: Can't stat() mounted device /dev/sda3: No such file or directory
[02:29] <eri1> quotacheck: Can't find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option
[02:29] <HymnToLife> jesseman_ > skype ?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> isnt gnome-meeting VoIP?
[02:30] <ninnnu> kuja: I think it isn't, but maybe using 2 different Xs same time... (ctrl+alt+F7 and F8)
[02:30] <kuja> The day Logitech starts writing Linux drivers for their cams is the day I Jesus becomes real. Man what is UP with them.
[02:30] <leobeta> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9595 ...
[02:31] <leobeta> i'd really thx u if u can take a look at it
[02:31] <Seveas> !installing
[02:31] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas
[02:31] <gnomefreak> !install
[02:31] <ubotu> well, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:31] <jessid> If I have an account with another provider, can I use gnome meeting???
[02:31] <no_gatez_fan> laufin and nodding on logitech comment
[02:31] <_jason> leobeta: yep, erase the ones with a ``1''
[02:31] <Seveas> !installing is <reply> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[02:31] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[02:31] <chuckyp> jessid, What are you trying to do?
[02:32] <Seveas> !no install is <reply> see installing
[02:32] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[02:32] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:32] <jessid> to call another phone using my PC, chuckyp
[02:32] <Seveas> (I'm in a wikipage-frenzy today)
[02:32] <gnomefreak> i see that
[02:33] <Rambo3> !skype
[02:33] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[02:33] <kuja> ninnnu: Then what?
[02:33] <leobeta> Gz...thx u
[02:33] <ninnnu> kuja: I dunno...
[02:33] <kuja> -_-;
[02:34] <kuja> Thanks though
[02:34] <ninnnu> It was just a guess... I have heard something about xnest or something, but...
[02:34] <Rambo3> hehe gnomefreak wiki about that?
[02:35] <eri1> help please - quotacheck -avugm gives me - quotacheck: Can't stat() mounted device /dev/sda3: No such file or directory
[02:35] <eri1> quotacheck: Can't find filesystem to check or filesystem not mounted with quota option
[02:35] <ninnnu> Mandriva had a option on KDE-menu which started another X-session to ctrl-alt-f8...
[02:35] <gnomefreak> not a wiki yet i havent figured out wikis yet
[02:35] <gnomefreak> its sitting lonely on my site
[02:35] <Rambo3> google earth type app. i thought google earth.
[02:36] <gnomefreak> Rambo3: google earth isnt ported for l;inux
[02:36] <gnomefreak> linux*
[02:36] <Rambo3> yeah i know .
[02:38] <gnomefreak> gdebi sounds sweet :)
[02:38] <Qwerty> does anyone know a guide that shows how I can install xmms in my ubuntu?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> !xmms
[02:38] <ubotu> it has been said that xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary and Breezy, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[02:38] <gnomefreak> thats not what i was looking for
[02:39] <ompaul> there is a wiki earth type project
[02:39] <_jason> Qwerty: it's in the repositories, just use synaptic.  You may also want to look at beep-media-player which is basically a better xmms
[02:39] <defrysk>  Qwerty sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-mad (last for mp3support)
[02:39] <gnomefreak> there is?
[02:39] <Qwerty> i dont have the latest ubuntu sorry >_< am using .4
[02:39] <gnomefreak> 5.04?
[02:39] <Qwerty> yes
[02:40] <defrysk> !upgrade
[02:40] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to dapper remember it may break Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[02:40] <ompaul> gnomefreak, so I was told by a person who I trust level 1
[02:40] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh ok than it shall stay on my site :)
[02:40] <leobeta> is there any file somewhere where i can manage the starting of the sessions? daemons, scripts, etc that load up at the beginning
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> _jason: but the gaim xmms plugin wont work, so some of us need xmms ;)
[02:41] <wicked_> i got some synaptic error
[02:41] <wicked_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:41] <gnomefreak> one of these days im gonna find something and make a wiki i think
[02:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> (wont work with BMP)
[02:41] <wicked_> several times with different address
[02:41] <_jason> Kamping_Kaiser: I see, what do gaim xmms plugins do?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> wicked_: try taking the ca. out of it
[02:41] <Rambo3> didn t several people have problem with cs repos?
[02:41] <Rambo3> ca . that is
[02:41] <gnomefreak> Rambo3: yes ive seen it a few time in last 24 hours
[02:42] <wicked_> how may i take this off editing sources.list?
[02:42] <navaneeth> i started using ubuntu yesterday. i have some problems. can someone help me?
[02:42] <wicked_> is it the way?
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> _jason: alows you to contrll xmms through gaim (and do irritatitng things like display song on screen)
[02:42] <gnomefreak> wicked_: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:42] <_jason> !helpme
[02:42] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:42] <wicked_> ok thx
[02:42] <_jason> Kamping_Kaiser: ah
[02:42] <gnomefreak> wicked_: dont forget save close and run sudo apt-get update
[02:43] <navaneeth> ok.how can you put a shortcut to /usr/games on desktop?
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> _jason: especialy usefull on a system with xgl, becaue of no "always on top" with xgl *not happy*
[02:43] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: right click create launcher
[02:43] <gnomefreak> or better yet you can cp it to desktop
[02:43] <wicked_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:43] <wicked_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[02:44] <leobeta> what file besides "/.gnome2/session-manual" manage the starting of the sessions ?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> wicked_: do you have the cdrom repo enabled?
[02:44] <wicked_> i think i have
[02:44] <gnomefreak> it should be at very very top of that page
[02:44] <wicked_> should i take it off,
[02:45] <gnomefreak> just put a # infornt of it for now and take the # away from the other repos that start with deb
[02:45] <gnomefreak> infront*
[02:45] <wicked_> ok
[02:45] <gnomefreak> save close apt-get update
[02:46] <Qwerty> guys where ill find the sources.list -_- I need to with someone pvtly, i feel embarrassed keep asking noobs question with none stop
[02:46] <chuckyp> /etc/apt/sources.list I believe
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Qwerty: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:46] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, gksudo?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Qwerty: if gksudo doesnt work use sudo instead
[02:46] <gnomefreak> !gksudo
[02:46] <ubotu> I heard gksudo is Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[02:46] <chuckyp> ahh
[02:47] <chuckyp> I don't use sudo
[02:47] <leobeta> i had problems with sudo
[02:48] <leobeta> like when i tried to "sudo gedit /xxx" with an user with same privileges as root, didnt work
[02:48] <wicked_> wooohoooo
[02:48] <wicked_> thank you, that was some fast help
[02:48] <gnomefreak> wicked_: better now?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:48] <gnomefreak> now i will brb
[02:49] <Bilange> leobeta: you can always do 'sudo -i'
[02:50] <Bilange> then gedit /xxx, then ctrl+d to go get out of root account
[02:50] <leobeta> Bilange, same error
[02:50] <Bilange> wha? did you check the file permissions? :/
[02:51] <leobeta> i dont need to if the pass i log with is of an user with root privileges, righgt?
[02:51] <leobeta> right?*
[02:51] <navaneeth> gnomefreak: i could cp it to desktop dut i cannot create a shortcut.
[02:52] <Bilange> hey, i never tried to lock root off reading/writing a file.. let me ttry this out
[02:52] <gnomefreak> you might have to make a sym link for that im not sure i use launchers only
[02:53] <leobeta> w8, not root, i mean, user "xx" that has almost same privileges as root
[02:53] <navaneeth> sym link???
[02:53] <leobeta> thats what i meant =S
[02:53] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: just a quikie linux doesnt use shortcuts
[02:53] <gnomefreak> symbolic link hold on let me see ubotu can tell you more
[02:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell navaneeth about symlink
[02:54] <navaneeth> ok.but i want to add a game in the application>games> list. what should i do?
[02:54] <chuckyp> !sym link
[02:54] <ubotu> chuckyp: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:55] <Bilange> oops.. either way, sudo should run gedit with the same userid than root, mimicking root's privileges(sp?)
[02:55] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: thats a bit tricky ( easier to make a launcher for either desktop or panel
[02:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell chuckyp about symlink
[02:55] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, I don't want to know I was trying to post it to the room
[02:55] <gnomefreak> ahhhhh
[02:55] <prada> navaneeth: go to /usr/share/applications
[02:55] <Cyorxamp> Is there something that can take care of the installation of graphics driver and setting them up?  (i.e. instead of mucking about in xorg.conf and such things) - basically yes I am on about something similar to 'Display Properties' on windows.  Don't just say 'go back to windoze'
[02:55] <prada> and figure out from there
[02:55] <leobeta> "(sp?)" ?
[02:56] <Bilange> 'spelling?' -- i was not sure about that word's spelling
[02:56] <leobeta> oh
[02:56] <gnomefreak> prada: how does that help him?
[02:57] <prada> gnomefreak: he can leech one of the desktop files and modify it for his game menu item
[02:57] <leobeta> Bilange: thats wha i thought...i mean, sudo is for rooting, and if "xx" has almost same privileges as God, i shoudlnt get the "incorrect passwd" error
[02:57] <prada> gnomefreak: I might have got the question wrong though :)
[02:57] <Bilange> leobeta: whats your file? is that included in ubuntu by defualt so i could dig a bit deeper?
[02:57] <Cyorxamp> it's bad enough linux drivers have to be reverse engineered for most hardware - let alone shit ways of installing and configuring any drivers that do exist
[02:57] <leobeta> take anyone u want
[02:57] <gnomefreak> prada: ok we know that but he is new to linux that would give me horrible sideaffects if he messes up
[02:58] <leobeta> i think is a privileges matter
[02:58] <gnomefreak> s/me/him
[02:58] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, what are you talking about there are ways to configure it you just don't know them.
[02:58] <mojo_> i have a question
[02:58] <gnomefreak> mojo_: ask
[02:58] <Cyorxamp> well this is why I am asking CHubbZ
[02:58] <Cyorxamp> * chuckyp
[02:58] <leobeta> oh right...hehe, i remember i take "xx" out of the root group...
[02:58] <leobeta> lol
[02:58] <as_284> hello, does anyone has this motherboard ASROCK K7vm3 chipset VIA?
[02:58] <ricardo_> gnomefreak, chuckyp: the downloading was in 94% and ocur and error, it say it can obtain some files, please execute apt-get update or fix-missing ... what can i do now?
[02:58] <prada> gnomefreak: I don't think creating an extra .desktop file is really going to break stuff :)
[02:59] <as_284> i cant make the modem to work
[02:59] <leobeta> sorry bilange =S
[02:59] <mojo_> what's difference b/w OEM mode and normal mode in next ubuntu release?
[02:59] <Bilange> incorrect password? you should write the user's password in it, not root's, in case yo udidny know
[02:59] <as_284> its a AMR
[02:59] <as_284> AMR modem
[02:59] <leobeta> yep yep, i knew
[02:59] <Rambo3> i never had problem with gnu drivers only binary ones
[02:59] <Bilange> just to make sure :)
[02:59] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: run sudo apt-get update and than try again
[02:59] <navaneeth> i modified xorg.conf and got it right.i am pretty confident.which file in /usr/share/applications is it?
[02:59] <porko> iv iv
[03:00] <leobeta> ;),  i took out that user out of root group, thats why i couldnt
[03:00] <prada> navaneeth: just pick one of the .desktop files ... like gnibbles or something ... edit it and put in the stuff for your game that seems relevant
[03:00] <porko> what
[03:00] <mojo_> no answer for my question?
[03:00] <porko> why i must
[03:00] <gnomefreak> prada: if he does something he shouldnt in a file it can cause bad things to happen (like delete something important?
[03:01] <Bilange> root group? on my installation there was an 'admin' group created for that purpose (allowing users to get roots permission)
[03:01] <porko> i do not understan you
[03:01] <prada> navaneeth: you need to give the .desktop file a new name of course ... navaneeth_game.desktop or something
[03:01] <gnomefreak> porko: what language doo you speak?
[03:01] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: occur the same thing
[03:01] <navaneeth> i will make a backup.
[03:01] <navaneeth> ok.
[03:01] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: sudo apt-get fix-missing
[03:02] <prada> gnomefreak: yeah ... he could, but I'm pretty convinced he won't get it that wrong considering that he's only modifying an existing file
[03:02] <porko> slovene
[03:02] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: if still no good use sudo apt-get -f install
[03:02] <prada> gnomefreak: unless he puts and rm -rf * there ;)
[03:02] <prada> s/and/an
[03:03] <gnomefreak> prada: i stopped giving people benifit of doubt it always bits me in the butt
[03:03] <Bilange> somewhat offtopic here, whats the first part in 's/and/an' supposed to mean? 'search'?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> prada: you know kind of like when you get an error and it tells you to run a command
[03:04] <gnomefreak> people dont always relize what to do
[03:04] <prada> gnomefreak: :D ... yeah ... I've met the type
[03:04] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: when i execute sudo apt-get fix-missing, console said: invalid operation
[03:04] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: sudo apt-get -f install please
[03:04] <navaneeth> i can't find .desktop file. there is .list file though.
[03:05] <Rambo3> .Desktop
[03:05] <prada> gnomefreak: maybe navneeth should use a menu editor ... I hope that's safe
[03:05] <gnomefreak> ive never used fix missing but im kind of thinking its sudo apt-get install fix-missing but nto osure thats why i gave you the other command
[03:05] <gnomefreak> he cant use it it wont add his game
[03:05] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: ok it execute.. it said 0 updates, 0 to delete and 0 for install
[03:05] <Roots> Yeah, you need roots permission
[03:05] <leobeta> admin, u're right : :)
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop again please
[03:06] <porko> pa pejte vsi skupi nekam
[03:06] <chuckyp> apt-get --fix-missing
[03:06] <gnomefreak> porko: what language do you speak?
[03:06] <tekgrunt> :\
[03:06] <leobeta> =/
[03:06] <porko> slovene
[03:06] <kameron> what's the package name that has development tools, etc?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> kameron: build-essential
[03:06] <kameron> that's the one gnomefreak, ty
[03:06] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:07] <kameron> dang, it's already installed
[03:07] <Cyorxamp> Device Manager - that's it! That's what I need... a graphical way of installing and configuring linux drivers - and yes something that can be used WITHOUT reading a manual... anyone telling me to go back to windows or other such comments with be insulted - any ideas on a linux Device Manager?
[03:07] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: the same error,  it said execute apt-get update or fix-missing,, and finish the operation
[03:07] <Rambo3> Cyorxamp pick up the book and program it you self maby, or start a project with other people
[03:08] <gnomefreak> maybe device manager?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> system>admin>device manager?
[03:08] <Rambo3> device manager doesnt install drivers from there
[03:08] <Cyorxamp> STFU Rambo3
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file on pastebin please
[03:08] <sanitarium> what am i doing wrong that I cant get ubuntu to surf in canada
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Cyorxamp: please be nice
[03:09] <Cyorxamp> hey I warned people
[03:09] <sanitarium> whats with that ipv4/v6 stuff thats seems to be messing me up
[03:09] <ricardo_> what is pastebin? excuse for my bad english
[03:09] <Rambo3> !pastebin
[03:09] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:09] <gnomefreak> Cyorxamp: your warning means nothing to us we are here to help out of nicness of our hearts no pay no nothing now please read the coc and abide by it
[03:10] <jux> ccccccccc
[03:10] <Cyorxamp> You give me shit - I'll give you shit
[03:10] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: what is pastebin? excuse for my bad english
[03:10] <gnomefreak> !ops
[03:10] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[03:10] <sanitarium> can anyone point me to answer forums/google not helping do i need to disable ipv6 or what
[03:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ricardo_ about pastebin
[03:10] <sanitarium> anyone?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> ty sir
[03:11] <navaneeth> gnomefreak: when i open the ppd file for installing my printer i get "Missing asterisk in column 1 at 1:'/usr/share/ppd/Canon/Canon-BJC-2100-bjc600.ppd.gz' any ideas?
[03:11] <Bilange> sanitarium: i can talk to you in french if that helps
[03:11] <coz> morning to all
[03:11] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: that sounds like a code issue but try adding a * where it says too?
[03:11] <Frafra> hi all
[03:11] <ELpH95o> morning
[03:11] <gnomefreak> and recompile it than install it
[03:12] <gnomefreak> nm forget that
[03:12] <Frafra> does exist an app-server for display photos?
[03:12] <coz> Hello Frafra and ElpH95o
[03:12] <Frafra> hello coz
[03:12] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: isnt your printer in the cups list?
[03:12] <coz> Frafra if you mean an application try F-spot
[03:13] <Rambo3> app-server ? qiv is slideshow type program
[03:13] <navaneeth> yes
[03:13] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: to set up printers cup works the best it has drivers for supported printers
[03:13] <gnomefreak> after chosing your printer hit install drivers
[03:13] <navaneeth> i did that. it asked for ppd file.
[03:13] <Frafra> I need an app that allow me to see my photos when I connect to the server where it's installed
[03:14] <coz> Frafra hold on I will check
[03:14] <navaneeth> i selected the recommended file and clicked open.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: im not real fimilar for ppd but sounds like a bug in the code
[03:14] <salah> Hi
[03:14] <sanitarium> Bilange, sorry no french here i wish i was that smart
[03:14] <navaneeth> ok. thanks.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> yw navaneeth
[03:14] <Bilange> oh, i thought you were french, since you use sympatico :)
[03:15] <salah> How can Install Mplayer? I am facing a huge problem
[03:15] <_jason> !mplayer
[03:15] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:15] <sanitarium> like ubuntu alot have 5 workstations would like to switch over, but cant make the internet work .
[03:15] <sanitarium> google search makes it sound like ipv6 problem
[03:15] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: hi i still dont have my graphic card problem fixed do you think that installing Ubuntu Default can make things work out??
[03:16] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: i think it will give you a better shot at it atleast
[03:16] <royboy46> Anybody need to copy plugins to firfox but dont have permission How do you change permissions
[03:16] <gnomefreak> all the lib will be installed for you
[03:16] <Bilange> as far as I know, sympatico dosent provide Ipv6 yet... do you have a router to connect to the net?
[03:18] <coz> Frafra i cannot find one that specifically does that My ignorance probably is definately an application out there for that
[03:18] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: can you recieve this file?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: what file can i recieve?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: did you put your sources.list file on pastebin?
[03:20] <sanitarium> Bilange, its the only distro i can not get to work behide my smoothwall firewall it assigns ip ipv6, everytime
[03:20] <Rambo3> sanitarium can you use sudo echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/autoconf se if that will disable it
[03:20] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: no yet, for that reason i'm trying to send you souces.list
[03:21] <sanitarium> Rambo3, trying it now one sec
[03:21] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: no dont send it to me just copy and paste the file to pastebin sir
[03:22] <Rambo3> do you use router wifi or what sanitarium ?
[03:22] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: hi i still have that Xserver Problem With my Graphic Card do u hink that installing Default 5.10 ubuntu could make things work out?
[03:22] <sanitarium> 6meg dsl pppoe with smoothwall (acts as firewall/router)
[03:22] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: i said yes up there^^^^
[03:23] <LinuxIdiot> gnomefreak: sorry coz my connection failed
[03:23] <LinuxIdiot> :s
[03:23] <gnomefreak> LinuxIdiot: it couldnt hurt to try it
[03:23] <LinuxIdiot> got u
[03:23] <Rambo3> http://www.telscom.ch/configuration_of_ipv6_features.htm
[03:24] <raggi> can someone give me a hand with dircolors?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> i remember alot of people had connection issues with ipv6 they went down to ipv4 and it worked (not sure why just remembering)
[03:24] <raggi> it's working as root, but not for a normal user
[03:25] <raggi> LS_COLORS is exported, and which ls shows the same as root is using
[03:25] <Rambo3> maby blocking ipv6 module blacklisting will do the trick . but i dont know that much about ipv6
[03:25] <gnomefreak> me neither
[03:26] <gnomefreak> raggi: chmod will change permissions on files  try man chmod
[03:26] <gnomefreak> see if that will help you more
[03:26] <Bilange> same here, never used ipv6 yet :/
[03:27] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: ok i have pastebin
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i dont even know what one im using im assuming its 6
[03:27] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: do you have the link to it after you hit send
[03:27] <_jason> raggi: just alias ls as 'ls --color=auto', checkout ~/.bashrc
[03:27] <kesara> Dose Ubuntu live CD have gcc?
[03:27] <sanitarium> just thought it weird that installs ipv6 and sets up dhcp right out of the box
[03:28] <gnomefreak> kesara: yes it should be installed by default
[03:28] <_jason> kesara: I think so, try installing build-essential
[03:28] <noel32> hi any1 here
[03:28] <gnomefreak> if not look for it in synaptic
[03:28] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9597
[03:28] <gnomefreak> build-essential is universe i thought
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ty ric
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[03:28] <_jason> gnomefreak: nope, main I think
[03:28] <kesara> gnomefreak, _jason, I'm asking about the Live CD.
[03:29] <sanitarium> Rambo3, tried .. alias net-pf off ipv6 .. doesnt work
[03:29] <_jason> kesara: yeah, try installing build-essential in synaptic
[03:29] <_jason> kesara: system > administration > synaptic
[03:29] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: on the very first line you need to add a # just before the word deb so it looks like #deb cdrom:.....
[03:30] <_jason> sanitarium: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798&highlight=ipv6+disable
[03:30] <_jason> sanitarium: read the later posts as there seems to be better solution below the original
[03:31] <noel32> is ubuntu good for a laptop acer travelmate 3400 or wont it find any drivers for it on that os
[03:33] <Fredde> noel32: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer?highlight=%28laptop%29
[03:34] <kesara> _jason, It is possible to install new apps on Live CD?
[03:34] <_jason> kesara: yep
[03:34] <kesara> _jason, Ok, thx
[03:35] <noel32> fredde
[03:35] <gnomefreak> are all gforce cards 3d im looking at the gforce 6000 card
[03:36] <kemik> uhm.. yes
[03:36] <LinuxJones> sanitarium: did you update-modules before re-booting ?
[03:36] <sanitarium> LinuxJones, no ?
[03:36] <noel32> if i later on have problem installing my devices will people here help me out with that kind of things?
[03:36] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[03:37] <LinuxJones> sanitarium: do that then re-boot ipv6 should not be loaded after
[03:37] <phreak97> ok, someone guide me on how to install azureus?
[03:37] <_jason> !azureus
[03:37] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[03:37] <gnomefreak> next is geforce and gforce same?
[03:37] <phreak97> ty
[03:37] <LinuxJones> sanitarium: you made the change in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases file ?
[03:37] <bliss1> hey
[03:38] <bliss1> what does this mean have I failed to install something  (gedit:11041): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:39] <bjornkri> hey hey
[03:39] <sanitarium> LinuxJones, when i edited the modules it made it worse ?
[03:40] <LinuxJones> sanitarium: the module is still loading ?
[03:40] <bjornkri> I'm about to do my first presentation on my laptop since moving to Linux... :P Been going smoothly so far, preparing for it, except I can't seem to find how to add sound.
[03:40] <sanitarium> LinuxJones, just run update-modules or edit file then run update
[03:40] <bjornkri> I'm using impress, and the help says Insert - Object - Sound.
[03:41] <bjornkri> Insert I can do, Object as well... but there's no Sound option
[03:41] <monomachus> hi
[03:41] <LinuxJones> sanitarium: edit the file then run update-modules then re-boot and the ipv6 module should not be listed in lsmod
[03:41] <phreak97> i'm having serious issues with azureus
[03:42] <sanitarium> LinuxJones, ok thanks trying now
[03:42] <sanitarium> brb
[03:42] <LinuxJones> k
[03:42] <phreak97> it doesnt save its position on the screen for one
[03:42] <phreak97> it starts half off the right side
[03:43] <z3r0x> hi guys
[03:43] <LinuxJones> z3r0x: hey
[03:44] <noel32> if i later on have problem installing my devices will people here help me out with that kind of things?
[03:45] <LinuxJones> noel32: yes
[03:45] <theine> noel32, sure
[03:45] <noel32> thnx guys, can any1 please give me a link were i can download the iso file so i can install it
[03:46] <LinuxJones> noel32:  >> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[03:46] <ELpH95o> yes noel
[03:46] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: How can i modify souces.list?
[03:46] <Fredde> noel32: vilken arkitektur har du?
[03:47] <salah_> hi
[03:47] <Fredde> x86?
[03:47] <theine> ricardo_, open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:47] <noel32> thnx u guys give good support i went  to another channel last time o downloadded fedora they didnt help me out nothing on my computer worked only the i could listen to musik nothing elese
[03:47] <Fredde> neol32: with ubuntu, you'll do mouch more
[03:47] <warty> anyone here?
[03:48] <noel32> is it good fo working with wireless audioating and bluesnarffing?
[03:48] <LinuxJones> noel32: there is great information on the wiki. New users guides etc. to help get your up and running with Ubuntu.
[03:48] <salah> I am facing problem to setup Mplayer.
[03:48] <warty> im just using this live CD cuz my pc's fekked...
[03:48] <salah> How can I setup this easyly
[03:49] <theine> salah, how did you install mplayer?
[03:49] <LinuxJones> noel32: look here and see if you can find your network card listed >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:49] <salah> I am following a link --http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:50] <warty> linuxjones... is there any kind of messenger here?
[03:50] <salah> When I reach this ---tar -xjf Blue-1.4.tar.bz2. Than it's not work anymore
[03:51] <salah> plz help me out.  I have been tring for a while
[03:51] <theine> salah, do you need a newer version of mplayer than the one present in the ubuntu repositories?
[03:51] <phreak97> is there an alternative to azureus?
[03:52] <salah> how can I do that
[03:52] <salah> Actually I m new user
[03:52] <noel32> i have 2 wireless card 1 that is internal WLAN 802.11g mini-PCI Module Broadcome, 2nd one is D-link DWL-G650m that is in the pc card
[03:52] <Rambo3> thay should have put  tar -xjf MPlayer-* for future use and compresed apt into one liner
[03:53] <LinuxJones> warty: you mean like a bot ?
[03:53] <theine> salah, try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[03:54] <warty> i mean like a messenger program.._
[03:54] <warty> ?*
[03:55] <salah> Ifollowed but nothing happend
[03:55] <LinuxJones> noel32: the dlink card should work out of the box. What kind of broadcom wireless card do you have ?
[03:56] <Webx> what dose grep "^a" do?
[03:56] <[Leo] > Webx, it's a regexp
[03:56] <nickrud> salah: what problems did you have with that page?
[03:56] <gnomefreak> is there any reason my pc wont run a geforce card?
[03:57] <theine> salah, you need to enable the multiverse repository, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:57] <gnomefreak> i have the memory to cover it by a long shot
[03:57] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak: is the nvidia module loaded ?
[03:57] <theine> salah, then you can install mplayer via the Synaptic package manager
[03:57] <gnomefreak> LinuxJones: ill let you know after i buy it but i dont wanna buy it if pc wont run it
[03:58] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak: are you talking gforce or nforce ?
[03:58] <phreak97> what directory to applets go to?
[03:58] <noel32> thats the only infor mation i could find on my windows
[03:58] <gnomefreak> i checked the hardware site so im cool there
[03:58] <gnomefreak> gforce
[03:58] <phreak97> i have deskbar and i want to try edit the options manually with whatever config file it uses
[03:58] <gnomefreak> fx5200
[03:58] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak: it should work jsut fine
[03:58] <gnomefreak> ty sir
[03:58] <phreak97> since the fucking preferences menu doesnt work properly
[03:58] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak: I have one of those
[03:58] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak: It's not a great card tho, but it's cheap
[03:59] <gnomefreak> phreak97: please watch you language
[03:59] <phreak97> sorry
[04:00] <noel32> linuxjones thats the only info i can find on my wireless card
[04:00] <sanitarium> im just convinced it doesnt like me
[04:00] <sanitarium> lol
[04:00] <ELpH95o> these lollipops my doctor prescribed for me are so potent that i just thought i was typing messages on IRC
[04:00] <LinuxJones> noel32: do you have a livecd ?
[04:00] <ccharles> hi, if i built a custom LiveCD, could i build x86 one's while i'm on PPC? (i.e. can casper "cross compile", if i unpack a i386 livecd on ppc, and regenerate on ppc)?
[04:01] <noel32> no i am running windows now
[04:01] <Mannie> there are anyone here please ?
[04:01] <phreak97> gnomefreak, got me an answer anyway?
[04:02] <_jason> Mannie: hello, just ask a question and someone will try to help if they know how
[04:02] <LinuxJones> noel32: if you have high speed internet download the livecd and boot to that you will know if Ubuntu supports both your cards out of the box. How old is your computer or wireless network card ?
[04:02] <ELpH95o> noel:i'd try a live cd first to see how you like itif you do any music production i'd keep windows on your pc
[04:02] <gnomefreak> LinuxJones: i figure it has 3d than its all good i am trying to get 3d working on this pc thats really the jist of it
[04:02] <noel32> no i want to learn how to work with wireless cards and bluetooth utilites
[04:03] <noel32> sniffing and stuff not for musi
[04:03] <noel32> c
[04:03] <gabriel> aloha my brothers
[04:03] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: No, i try to use apt-get install ku....... but occur the same error, perhaps i have to reboot?
[04:04] <gabriel> what can i do to move the screen a bit to the left ? i user a samsung 970p 19 " lcd with no bottons :(
[04:04] <gabriel> *i use
[04:04] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: i modify sources.list
[04:04] <noel32> were can i download the live cd
[04:04] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: you shouldnt have to ok let me get you a sources.list to replace yours that will better fit it ok?
[04:04] <ELpH95o> noel:then you should use linux :)
[04:04] <Zoroaster> good day mates
[04:04] <LinuxJones> gnomefreak: the card will be fine ;)
[04:04] <phreak97> gah, it's so frustrating, surely someone here has enough knowledge of linux to tell me where things get installed to
[04:05] <_jason> phreak97: dpkg does, just do dpkg -L <packagename>
[04:05] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: are you using ubuntu5.10?
[04:05] <gabriel> to move the screen on a LCD with no buttons ? Thx
[04:05] <LinuxJones> phreak97: normal user programs usually go in /usr/bin/
[04:05] <noel32> ELpH95o which of the linux software do u preffer
[04:06] <phreak97> linuxboy,
[04:06] <phreak97> oops
[04:06] <phreak97> _jason,  you misread
[04:06] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: i'm using ubuntu 5.10
[04:06] <nny> so i just found out that OOffice stored a very important paper in /tmp, and now it's gone!!!!!!!!
[04:06] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[04:06] <nny> whats the way to get it back if any???
[04:06] <phreak97> LinuxJones, not there:(
[04:06] <_jason> phreak97: didn't you ask where things got installed to?
[04:06] <Webx> where can i find a list of what the usual regular expressions do? regunal-expresions.info is far 2 much text.. please
[04:07] <LinuxJones> phreak97: you can do locate mozilla-firefox as an example
[04:07] <theine> phreak97, what exactly are you searching for?
[04:07] <_jason> Webx: google, or 'man 7 regex'
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ok ricardo_ take out everything in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and add what is on this page in there http://pastebin.com/578460
[04:08] <LinuxJones> phreak97: or whereis appname
[04:08] <Webx> _jason: thanks
[04:08] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: after pasteing in the new list click save than close  than run sudo apt-get update
[04:08] <noel32> ELpH95o which of the linux software do u preffer  fot that kind of stuff then
[04:08] <theine> phreak97, or which appname
[04:10] <Webx> _jason: "^a" match something thats starts whit a? =S
[04:10] <_jason> Webx: yes
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: let me know what happens please i will stay until it gets done
[04:10] <gnomefreak> or until 11 gets here what ever comes first
[04:11] <jerry> hello room. would some one mind helping a linux noob log in as a root user?
[04:11] <ELpH95o> noell:I dont do any sniffing
[04:11] <Webx> _jason: oh, now it works.. there is no ide to hav "" around it? like "^a".. thats what the book says.. but it dosnt work :D
[04:11] <vtomek> hy! can everyone help? i can't install my wifi card in pcmcia slot
[04:11] <ELpH95o> ive been working on learning C++
[04:12] <ELpH95o> and linux is a good platform for that
[04:12] <_jason> Webx: where are you using the regular expression?
[04:12] <LinuxJones> jerry: don't login as root user
[04:12] <ELpH95o> and working on developing a midi sequencer
[04:12] <noel32> ELpH95o is redhat good for that kind of stuff?
[04:12] <_jason> ubotu: tell jerry about root
[04:12] <Fredde> ELpH95o: isn't linux a good platform for all kind of coding?
[04:12] <Bilange> jerry: use 'sudo -i' to have root permissions... by default root account is locked
[04:12] <Fredde> :p
[04:12] <Webx> _jason: question is what ls -C1 |  grep "^a" dose.. =S
[04:12] <LinuxJones> jerry: you can get root priviliges by typing sudo -s (enter your username's password)
[04:13] <jerry> tks will u explain how to?>
[04:13] <jerry> now i c
[04:13] <ELpH95o> yup freeddi
[04:13] <ELpH95o> i dont like redhat
[04:13] <jerry> typesudo or -s?
[04:13] <ELpH95o> the package management in redhat is the worst
[04:13] <_jason> Webx: it's good practice to put it in quotes because some the shell may try to expand some characters, although the ones you have there won't cause a problem, just surround it with ''
[04:13] <Webx> _jason: think it works now.. it lists the files starting on a right?
[04:13] <Fredde> ELpH95o: none of use does, none of us...
[04:13] <_jason> Webx: yeah
[04:13] <gnomefreak> im finding it easier to code in linux than win by a long shot
[04:14] <noel32> ELpH95o i used fedora lat time but i couldnt find any of my drivers at all
[04:14] <Webx> _jason: thanks ones more =)
[04:14] <_jason> Webx: also, you may want to read man grep and see the differences with egrep
[04:14] <piglop> is there a way to run xorg 7 on breezy?
[04:14] <jerry> sudo or -s in terminal this is my first time so im kind of nervous
[04:15] <gnomefreak> jerry: what are you trying to do?
[04:15] <Bilange> jerry: 'sudo -i'
[04:15] <jerry> install yahoo
[04:15] <Bilange> gnomefreak: loggin in as root :)
[04:15] <gnomefreak> yuck
[04:15] <jerry> and then americas army game
[04:15] <selinium> Hi , can anyone using sound juicer ripping to mp3 give me the right gstreamer pipeline? it is in the prefs
[04:15] <gnomefreak> yahoo doesnt work well on linux
[04:15] <gnomefreak> but yes root sudo -i will do the trick
[04:16] <gnomefreak> neither yahoo or aim work good on linux and have very poor settings
[04:16] <selinium> gnomefreak, that is a bit insecure doing it that way isn't it?
[04:16] <jerry> ok so i should not install?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> selinium:do you mean gstreamer.08-mad?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> selinium: anytime you use a root terminal its not really secure
[04:17] <nny> so.. whats up with ubuntu? does it delete tmp on reboot?
[04:17] <nny> well delete the files in tmp
[04:17] <jerry> i just want to do one simple install with s/o holding my hand if you will
[04:17] <gnomefreak> sudo -i is the best way to do it tho as apposes to -s
[04:18] <YogSothoth> Hi
[04:18] <jerry> tk u gnome
[04:18] <Bilange> nny: y, i think it does, but im not 100% sure
[04:18] <gnomefreak> jerry: install a deb its easy :)
[04:18] <jerry> a deb ? im new
[04:18] <YogSothoth> How can I force Ubuntu to open Gmail composer instead of Evolution for new email?
[04:18] <jerry> real new
[04:18] <selinium> gnomefreak, Can you rip to mp3?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> .deb is a packages build for debian and debian based distros
[04:19] <sps_br> hi all, need help with espresso (flight cd 4 amd64)
[04:19] <_jason> YogSothoth: in a firefox window for example?
[04:19] <jerry> wiped my hd cof win/xp
[04:19] <selinium> gnomefreak, with sound juicer?
[04:19] <LinuxJones> YogSothoth: system >> preferences >> prefered applications
[04:19] <gnomefreak> selinium: i dont but im sure i could if i tried hard enought  (you might ant to see if the restricted site can help you)
[04:19] <gnomefreak> never used soundjuicer
[04:20] <selinium> gnomefreak, OK
[04:20] <YogSothoth> _jason: yes in a new tab in firefox
[04:20] <selinium> gnomefreak, I try to steer clear of K programs... Gnome all the way!
[04:21] <gnomefreak> i dont blame you im just so used to k3b its habit
[04:21] <_jason> YogSothoth: I've written a script to do it, don't know of other ways.  Although there is an extension that will do it if you click links in firefox (links in your mail and irc will still open in evo)
[04:21] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: now it's downloading files
[04:21] <sps_br> any help with espresso live cd installer
[04:21] <sanitarium> my route doesnt show loopback as part of it
[04:21] <ompaul> gnomefreak, thats the part that gives you freak in your nick ;-)
[04:21] <sps_br> ?
[04:21] <selinium> ANy soundjuicer users ripping to mp3 about?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: cool did you get past the apt-get update part without issues?
[04:21] <jerry> ~$ sudo-i
[04:21] <jerry> bash: sudo-i: command not found
[04:21] <YogSothoth> LinuxJones: thanks that should be that. I will try a custom command
[04:21] <selinium> hiu ompaul :)
[04:21] <sanitarium> how do i add it to destination
[04:21] <sanitarium> ?
[04:21] <_jason> jerry: space after sudo: sudo -i
[04:21] <ompaul> selinium, msg
[04:22] <gnomefreak> ;) ompaul you got that right
[04:22] <YogSothoth> _jason: LinuxJones' solution seems smarter
[04:22] <jerry> ahh tks
[04:22] <ricardo_> still no, it's downloading a lot of things
[04:22] <selinium> ompaul, ?
[04:22] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: but since now thanks a lot for your help
[04:22] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: last coomadn you ran was apt-get update?
[04:22] <_jason> YogSothoth: hrmm wel I put the script there, how do you make it open the gmail composer?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: anytime i enjoy helping others
[04:23] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: yes, it was apt-get update
[04:23] <jerry> ahh eurika tks room im liking this allready
[04:23] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: ok you may get gpg errors for now ignore them
[04:23] <jerry> my first SUDO wow im so easy
[04:24] <jerry> to amuse
[04:24] <gnomefreak> jerry: sudo apt-get install packagename is easy and should be good for most beginning users
[04:24] <jmjones> anyone know of a good app to convert what you're doing on your desktop to video (i.e. for creating screencasts)?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> jerry: and yes it will get harder the deeper you go into linux/ubuntu
[04:25] <efbie> jmjones:  xvidcap
[04:25] <sunubuntu> parallel virtual machine(pvm) not working on ubuntu.any idea.anyone?
[04:25] <jerry>  "sudo apt-get install packagename" this after terminal?
[04:25] <jmjones> efbie any good docs on that?
[04:25] <gnomefreak> jerry: replace packagename with a packagename
[04:25] <efbie> nope, you must download a deb on some obscure website
[04:25] <jerry> gnome im loving it
[04:25] <jerry> i love info
[04:25] <sunubuntu> unable to add host to pvm.Anyidea.Pl help.
[04:26] <jerry> ahh as spelled with pk name
[04:26] <gnomefreak> like lets say you wanted to install links2 you would type sudo apt-get install links2
[04:26] <ninnnu> and use "apt-cache search keyword" to search packages
[04:26] <ninnnu> or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:27] <jerry> what does "apt" mean
[04:27] <ninnnu> for example: apt-cache search links
[04:27] <gnomefreak> apt=advanced package manager
[04:27] <ninnnu> apt - Advanced Package Tool
[04:27] <gnomefreak> tool yeah thats it :(
[04:27] <lcore> man apt
[04:27] <jerry> wow
[04:28] <ninnnu> one of best things of Debian/Ubuntu
[04:28] <gnomefreak> jerry: a graphical way to install packages and gives you a long list is synaptic you would go to system>admin>synaptic package manager
[04:28] <marcos> HOLA
[04:28] <marcos> ALGUIEN DE VENEZUELA
[04:29] <vtomek> i want to use my ATMEL wifi card, but driver doesn't work. What can i do?
[04:29] <jerry> as spelled
[04:29] <marcos> ALGUIEN DE  VENEZUELA
[04:29] <bjornkri> Anyone know how to play sounds in Impress?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> marcos: english please or try /join #ubuntu-es for spanish
[04:29] <jerry> thats funny giggle giggle
[04:30] <gnomefreak> i do it cause it can only help me help others better :)
[04:30] <marcos> ALGUIENN DE VENEZUELAAAAAAAAAAA
[04:30] <_jason> !es
[04:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:30] <jerry> is there a way i can copy the chat so i can use it 4 ref
[04:30] <marcos> O DE BRAZIL
[04:31] <ninnnu> !tell marcos about es
[04:31] <marcos> ALGUIEN DE VENEZUELA
[04:31] <bjornkri> Guess he's one of those people who look at the keyboard while typing
[04:32] <bjornkri> actually...
[04:32] <bjornkri> Since he was asking about Brazil... They don't speak Portuguese in Venezuela do they?
[04:32] <bjornkri> :S
[04:32] <Webx> _jason: i tought grep asdf$ matched anyfile containing this letters.. but it dosnt work.. whats $ for? i dont get any difference if i dont use the $ sign..
[04:32] <gnomefreak> jerry: highlight it and hit copy than paste it to writer and save as something like chat refference.doc and save it to your home folder or if it gives you choice of just your user name that would be your home folder
[04:32] <gnomefreak> bjornkri: no its spanish iirc
[04:33] <bjornkri> Yah, thought so :P
[04:33] <jerry> you have been a great help
[04:33] <ninnnu> .doc? why not .odt?
[04:33] <jerry> tks
[04:33] <gnomefreak> ok fine .odt
[04:33] <jerry> lol
[04:33] <ninnnu> .doc is evil ;P
[04:33] <jerry> why odt?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> save it as .crap for all i care lol
[04:33] <nny> anyone wanna enlighten me as to how to search a sh*tload of files for a specific text using grep
[04:33] <_jason> Webx: it should match only names that end in asdf
[04:33] <gnomefreak> .odt is an extention for openoffice
[04:33] <gnomefreak> i think its office document
[04:33] <ninnnu> .odt is one extension of OpenDocument, actually
[04:34] <jerry> ahh again tks THE fogis clearing
[04:34] <nny> it appears grep -a 'pattern' /mnt/dir/* complains arguement is too long
[04:34] <gnomefreak> one of millions
[04:34] <Bilange> t
[04:34] <Webx> _jason: oh im so strupid.. thanks =)
[04:34] <kenny> hello everyone .....this is my 2nd day with ubuntu and my 2nd day ever with linux and I cant get ubuntu to veiw jpegs, play mp3s or video files
[04:34] <_jason> bjornkri: ``alguien'' is spanish, ``alguem'' in portuguese
[04:34] <bjornkri> But no one knows about adding sounds to Impress slides?
[04:34] <Bilange> sorry for the previous line... there was .sxw, too
[04:35] <jerry> now i must go ,but i do hope all have a great day
[04:35] <ninnnu> kenny: to view JPGS, try gwenview and for MP3s, try xmms
[04:35] <gnomefreak> bjornkri: if you give me a week ill find out :( i was thinking about trying out impress
[04:35] <bjornkri> hehehe
[04:35] <bjornkri> Ok, thanks ;)
[04:35] <sanitarium> im good its work here
[04:35] <_jason> YogSothoth: did you get the gmail thing to work?
[04:35] <Mwafrika> How can i install XMMS in Hoary?
[04:35] <kenny> will xmms play in ubuntu?
[04:36] <gnomefreak> i have a slideshow that i did in win and id like to do it in impress with extras but today is school and compusa :)
[04:36] <gnomefreak> kenny: yes
[04:36] <kenny> because it works on kde
[04:36] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[04:36] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ^^that will tell you how to play mp3s
[04:36] <gnomefreak> kenny: most apps will work in both
[04:37] <kenny> ok thanks sorry to impose but this thing is making me crazy ....I love it its just a new world to me
[04:37] <gnomefreak> kenny: it only gets better :)
[04:37] <kenny> no doubt
[04:38] <kenny> if i sit in the chat will it kick me out?
[04:38] <bjornkri> Yeah, I've been using Ubuntu now for 5 days, and I'm down to complaining about GLSlideshow stuttering
[04:38] <pfp> krhm. has anyone else's acrobat reader spontaneously stopped working recently?
[04:38] <Bilange> the hardest part is about programming, though :/
[04:38] <gnomefreak> hell i spent my first year with linux trying out different distros and ive been using ubuntu for last year or so
[04:38] <ninnnu> I have used Ubuntu for 3 months now...
[04:38] <[m4steR] > hi all
[04:38] <ninnnu> (and Linux generally about 2-3 years)
[04:38] <[m4steR] > how can i execute a .out file ?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> kenny: not likely
[04:39] <ninnnu> [m4steR] : go to terminal and say ./a.out ?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> [m4steR] : did you compile it?
[04:39] <sanitarium> guys, would you believe me if i said i switched network cards and it just worked .. seems it doesnt like soho network cards .....
[04:39] <[m4steR] > yes
[04:39] <Bilange> actually, ive been idle'ing for 24+hrs in here, but no one kicked me
[04:39] <Rambo3>   : /a.out
[04:39] <[m4steR] > by a .cpp source
[04:39] <gnomefreak> i guess yes you did since ther eis an out file
[04:39] <[m4steR] > ok, let's try
[04:39] <sanitarium> wondering if i should put the ipv6 modules back
[04:39] <gnomefreak> ./file.out
[04:40] <Rambo3> ./a.out that is
[04:40] <[m4steR] > ok, thanx ;)
[04:40] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: hows it going over there?
[04:40] <geniusvicks> How do I use my USB Infra red port?
[04:41] <Rambo3> !lirc
[04:41] <ubotu> well, lirc is at http://www.lirc.com
[04:41] <geniusvicks> How do I use my USB Infra red port?
[04:41] <ccharles> any livecd experts around?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> geniusvicks: follow the instructions ubotu just posted
[04:41] <jerry> one more q pls how do i log out of sudo?
[04:41] <_jason> jerry: 'exit'
[04:41] <gnomefreak> lol @ experts
[04:41] <ccharles> jerry: ctrl+d or 'exit'
[04:42] <jerry> ok tks
[04:42] <gnomefreak> ccharles: just ask the question someone here will know
[04:42] <ccharles> hi, if i built a custom LiveCD, could i build x86 one's while i'm on PPC? (i.e. can casper "cross compile", if i unpack a i386 livecd on ppc, and regenerate on ppc)?
[04:42] <visik7> anyone use gmailfs package provided by ubuntu ?
[04:42] <ccharles> gnomefreak: i did earlier :P (re-asking)
[04:42] <ninnnu> err... Looks like that lirc.com doesn't work anymore
[04:42] <ninnnu> http://www.lirc.org/
[04:43] <_jason> !lirc =~ s/com/org/
[04:43] <ubotu> _jason: OK
[04:43] <gnomefreak> visik7: not yet i was debating on it tho
[04:43] <Rambo3> using lirc only on my geexbox
[04:43] <visik7> gnomefreak: it says login failed even if account data is correct
[04:43] <gnomefreak> visik7: did you put full address in?
[04:44] <visik7> full address with @gmail.com ?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> visik7: you might need to use like gnomefreak@gmail.com
[04:44] <bjornkri> By the way, are most of you using Xchat for IRC or...?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> bjornkri: irssi here
[04:44] <visik7> gnomefreak: yes with and without doesn't work
[04:44] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: occur and error, and again use apt-get update
[04:44] <gnomefreak> visik7: than im not sure like i said i havent used it yet
[04:44] <geniusvicks> where is it gnomefreak?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: were they gpg errors?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak is here
[04:45] <gnomefreak> where is what?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> !lirc
[04:45] <ubotu> somebody said lirc was at http://www.lirc.org
[04:45] <gnomefreak> ^^^geniu
[04:46] <ninnnu> woot?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> my tab isnt working for his name
[04:46] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: downloading files... but i use the same command and continue downloading
[04:46] <ninnnu> Did somebody correct that lirc-factoid? I can't see...
[04:46] <geniusvicks> where are the instructuons
[04:46] <bjornkri> that's awesome..
[04:46] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: you dont need to run sudo apt-get update but once
[04:47] <gnomefreak> ninnnu: didnt know it was broken
[04:47] <ricardo_> what can i do now?
[04:47] <bjornkri> lirc =~ s/com/org/ <-- that seemed to fix it (+ ! at the start)
[04:47] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: what can i do now
[04:47] <gnomefreak> geniusvicks: click the link they should be on there
[04:47] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[04:47] <ninnnu> bjornkri: ok
[04:47] <bjornkri> (one line after you sait it was broken ;))
[04:47] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: when apt-get update is done type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <linuxboyfriend> what name should I give to apt-get install to install qt3?
[04:48] <geniusvicks> you mean lirc.com
[04:48] <Rambo3> geniusvick you can search ubuntu forums for lirc , and see if you find some how-tos
[04:48] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: ubuntu tell me that can't prove some licenses
[04:48] <geniusvicks> but that shows something else
[04:48] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: thats ok for now
[04:48] <bjornkri> irssi looks a bit like bitchx, is it?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> bjornkri: its different than bitchx but both are text based
[04:49] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: ok it began to install
[04:49] <ninnnu> geniusvicks: no, lirc.org
[04:49] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: good
[04:49] <geniusvicks> ik
[04:49] <gnomefreak> http://www.lirc.org/
[04:49] <geniusvicks> thanks
[04:50] <gnomefreak> the link worked fine for me
[04:50] <geniusvicks> now it wrks
[04:50] <seicherlbob> hi! I had to hack my system and reset my root and user-password. The thing is, that it seems i have unset my sudo-password (the system never prompts for one since then). any ideas how i can reset the sudo-password?
[04:50] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone help me about that qt installation?
[04:50] <geniusvicks> I was thinking more of file transfers through IR to my Paml Pc
[04:51] <gnomefreak> seicherlbob: yes that is why its locked by default
[04:51] <geniusvicks> what program is available for that
[04:51] <Rambo3> your apt-cache search doesnt work ?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> seicherlbob: im sure you would have to add yourself back to the sudoers list
[04:51] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: ?? what you mean by "locked". I can sudo. but there is no password
[04:51] <gnomefreak> su is locked be default
[04:52] <gnomefreak> !rootsudo
[04:52] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:52] <gnomefreak> seicherlbob: that site should help for the most part
[04:52] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: i know. but its no problem with the root. I'd like to set the sudo-password
[04:52] <linuxboyfriend> Rambo3: apt-cache search qt showed a lot of things and i dont know which should i select to install qt3?
[04:53] <Rambo3> apt-cache search qt3 dev |grep qt3
[04:53] <Gnonthgol> seicherlbob: just set the root password
[04:53] <kuja> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev
[04:54] <linuxboyfriend> Rambo3: hmm, got some results, lemme experiment with them :)
[04:54] <seicherlbob> Gnonthgol, gnomefreak: sudo used to ask me for my userpassword. now it does not. I dont want the root-password, i want the userpassword to be asked for
[04:55] <gnomefreak> seicherlbob: that site should tell you how to reset it
[04:55] <Seveas> seicherlbob, sudo will rmember that you were authenticated for 15 minutes
[04:55] <seicherlbob> Seveas: not after a restart
[04:55] <gnomefreak> Seveas: its the su thing that scrrews up sudo
[04:55] <grajkoo>  how to check what process actually using dev/dsp ?
[04:56] <gnomefreak> iirc the rootsudo site should help you rest sudo
[04:56] <Seveas> grajkoo, fuser /dev/dsp
[04:56] <Deep6> lsof /dev/dsp
[04:56] <gnomefreak> reset*
[04:56] <grajkoo> seveas: i have no results :/
[04:56] <gnomefreak> if not i know the man page does i was there the other day
[04:57] <ricardo_> gnomefreak: thank you. now it's downloading files
[04:57] <grajkoo> i have tried also lsof /dev/desp
[04:57] <gnomefreak> ricardo_: yourwelcome that should give you kde 3.5 :)
[04:58] <grajkoo> seveas: my problem is that... after testing sound by cedega - i havent sound in linux. I haved restart system.. and remove all cedega . I kill all cdega/transgaminig sessions
[04:59] <[-DevinE-] > how do i instyall a .bin file ?
[04:59] <grajkoo> any sound servers are off. :(  ive checkd also on livecd - soud card looks fine
[05:01] <gnomefreak> not sure how to install a bin (was thinking bins got installed after install app
[05:02] <jouhaman> Hi, quick question: Can you install a micro-atx mobo into a standard atx case?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> jouhaman: im thinking the case is just that a case you should beable to put pretty much any mobo in it
[05:03] <erus`> what do i need to apt-get install to get gcc_select ?
[05:03] <jouhaman> Ok, thanks
[05:03] <gnomefreak> erus`: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:04] <erus`> thanks gnome
[05:04] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: sorry, i only found instructions on allowing sudo and setting sudo to ask for root-password. but i want to ask it for the userpassword. do i have to disable the rootpassword to enable sudo? Might it be a problem that the passwords are equal?
[05:04] <virtus> how do I install a C++ compiler on ubuntu?
[05:05] <bakkdoor> sudo apt-get install g++
[05:05] <gnomefreak> virtus: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:05] <daved> man.. a search on the ubuntu forums for "iscsi" yields 0 results.. is nobody using ubuntu as a real server?
[05:05] <Absenth> when is Dapper's release date?
[05:05] <virtus> I did that and I'm supposed to have it but libtool's configure fails
[05:05] <Absenth> I know it's every 6 months, but I don't remember when Breezy went live.
[05:05] <gnomefreak> seicherlbob: it could be a problem but i dont know i have never enabled su
[05:06] <gnomefreak> Absenth: april 20th
[05:06] <Absenth> gnomefreak, danke.
[05:06] <erus`> gnomefreak, gcc_select: command not found
[05:06] <erus`>  still :|
[05:06] <geniusvicks> I downloaded LIRC now if I type ./setup.sh I get dialog not found
[05:06] <gnomefreak> Absenth: april and oct are the release months
[05:06] <geniusvicks> What should I do
[05:06] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: well, enabling su means setting a clear password. thats the only difference, or am i wrong?
[05:06] <sgtbaker> meine popo ist sehr smutzig
[05:06] <gnomefreak> erus`: its not a package with is the package name?
[05:07] <[-DevinE-] > how do i install a .bin file ?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> seicherlbob: ive seen alot of people mess up their sudo by enabling su but i dont use su ever for a good reason to :)
[05:07] <erus`> gnomefreak, sorry, i dont understand...
[05:07] <_jason> [-DevinE-] : you generally run them.  What are you trying to install?
[05:07] <erus`> oh theres no gcc_select package no
[05:07] <[-DevinE-] > a game
[05:08] <gnomefreak> erus`: if you do apt-cahce search gcc_select it is not a package
[05:08] <gnomefreak> cache*
[05:08] <erus`> kk i try that
[05:08] <[-DevinE-] > its opens it by test editor
[05:08] <_jason> [-DevinE-] : have you checked the repos first?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> erus`: so im not sure what package you are looking for or what you need it to do
[05:08] <[-DevinE-] > that what ?
[05:08] <erus`> gcc_select changes the compielr
[05:09] <erus`> to different versions of gcc like 3.3 3.4 etc
[05:09] <gnomefreak> erus`: you mean from gcc3.4 to gcc4.0?
[05:09] <_jason> [-DevinE-] : the repositories.  Did you search in synaptic?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> erus`: ther eis a command to do that
[05:09] <erus`> i have 4.0 but i need to use 3.3
[05:09] <gnomefreak> erus`: you installed 3.3 already?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> or whatever one you need
[05:09] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: when i'm member of group admin... will this cause sudo to become useless?
[05:09] <erus`> yep
[05:10] <[-DevinE-] > _jason:.: i went 2 happypenguin.com and i found a cool game and i got a torrent file... and when it ended i got a .bin file (must be the install)
[05:10] <gnomefreak> erus`: someone else may give you right command but its something like exportcc>3.3 or something like that
[05:10] <erus`> ok ty
[05:10] <_jason> [-DevinE-] : if you trust the file, just make it executable (chmod +x file) and then run it (./file).  You have to be in the directory whre the file is though
[05:11] <gnomefreak> not sure on that what group is sudo in?
[05:11] <sanitarium> how do i update ubuntu ?
[05:11] <sanitarium> apt-get update?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> sanitarium: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:11] <sanitarium> gnomefreak, tyy
[05:11] <[-DevinE-] > oky 10x
[05:11] <_jason> erus`: are you compiling a program or just using gcc on a file?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> sanitarium: not always will you need to run apt-get update but for this instance i would
[05:12] <erus`> compiling a program library type thing
[05:12] <daimers> tell eliasson about nvidia
[05:12] <daimers> tell daimers about nvidia
[05:12] <_jason> erus`: export CC=gcc-3.4, generally works
[05:12] <gnomefreak> =
[05:12] <erus`> ah ok ty
[05:12] <gnomefreak> thanks _jason
[05:12] <[-DevinE-] > !nvidia
[05:12] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:12] <theine> erus`, try "export CC=gcc-3.3" before your run configure and make
[05:12] <daimers> Where can i find the link how to install nvidia drivers?
[05:12] <daimers> thanks
[05:12] <sanitarium> gnomefreak, ok its a brand new install, just got net working, so
[05:13] <gnomefreak> sanitarium: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:13] <sanitarium> ok
[05:13] <gnomefreak> that maybe best it will get you any newer kernels
[05:13] <gnomefreak> for that version of ubuntu
[05:13] <sanitarium> nice
[05:13] <seicherlbob> ok... removing me from admin-group was no good idea
[05:13] <sanitarium> 5.10 dowenloaded it yesterday
[05:14] <_jason> seicherlbob: nope, want to get back?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> sanitarium: youll enjoy it its stable :))
[05:14] <daimers> anyone know how to get "vlc"? ive tryed to add their apt-mirrors and did "apt-get install vlc" but the package dont exist their telling me
[05:14] <gnomefreak> _jason: he wants both su and sudo
[05:14] <seicherlbob> _jason: set it already back
[05:14] <_jason> oh
[05:14] <gnomefreak> !vlc
[05:14] <ubotu> vlc is, like, totally, a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[05:14] <seicherlbob> yes... would be nice
[05:14] <ninnnu> daimers: did you command sudo apt-get upadte?
[05:15] <gnomefreak> !info vlc
[05:15] <kuja> sudo apt-get install vlc #works for me
[05:15] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[05:15] <erus`> ok thatnks for al your help
[05:15] <gnomefreak> daimers: you need to enable universe repo
[05:15] <theine> seicherlbob, you need to enable the root account for that, but I would suggest to use "sudo -i" as a replacement for "su -"
[05:15] <kuja> gnomefreak: Oddly it's GTK1 :(
[05:15] <daimers> worked.
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kuja: what is?
[05:15] <kuja> vlc
[05:16] <kuja> gvlc at least
[05:16] <seicherlbob> _jason: any ideas? my sudo won't promt for my password anymore. i just want sudo to ask me again. right now i will allow me to do everything without asking for passwd
[05:16] <_jason> seicherlbob: that's normal, once you enter a password once it will remember it for 15 minutes
[05:16] <_jason> seicherlbob: you can make it forget with 'sudo -k'
[05:16] <seicherlbob> _jason: I did a restart and i never entered one within this session
[05:17] <freefab> hi
[05:17] <theine> seicherlbob, did you modify /etc/sudoers by any chance?
[05:17] <_jason> seicherlbob: oh, well that's not normal.  Try sudo -k anyway to make sure
[05:17] <freefab> can anybody tell me how to execute a command at boot time in ubuntu?
[05:17] <joachim-n> how do I permanenetly set my cvs root?
[05:17] <seicherlbob> i can still edit fstab without beeing prompted for password
[05:17] <kuja> joachim-n: $CVSROOT I believe it was.
[05:17] <joachim-n> yup, but when I log in again it's gone
[05:18] <joachim-n> or at least, I get this message: cvs checkout: No CVSROOT specified!  Please use the `-d' option
[05:18] <seicherlbob> theine: yes, i had to to get it running again
[05:18] <freefab> joachim-n, put it in your .profile or .bashrc
[05:18] <freefab> nobody can help me?
[05:18] <kuja> Well, stick it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[05:18] <freefab> ;)
[05:19] <theine> seicherlbob, please paste the sudoers file somewhere so that we can take a look at it
[05:19] <[-DevinE-] > i686 compatible processor.
[05:19] <seicherlbob> _jason: still... wont prompt.
[05:19] <freefab> kuja, do you know how to execute a command at boot time in ubuntu?
[05:19] <kuja> freefab: Hm, not quite sure. Actually, that'd be useful for me to know too.
[05:19] <kuja> freefab: Maybe there's a resource config somewhere.
[05:20] <gnomefreak> kuja: system>prefferences>sessions iirc
[05:20] <freefab> i know, but i can't find any rc.local style configuration file...
[05:20] <sanitarium> gnomefreak it asked me if im root?
[05:20] <gnomefreak> than look under start up also the starter guide in the help icon tells you how
[05:20] <gnomefreak> sanitarium: huh?
[05:21] <kuja> gnomefreak: Huh? I didn't ask about that :O
[05:21] <gnomefreak> sanitarium: sudo and use your user password when it asks for password
[05:21] <kenny> hey everyone......Im not trying to but in but the jpeg veiwer gwenveiw couldnt be found and I keep getting a message bout an error with lillypond when I install programs
[05:21] <gnomefreak> kuja: you said you would like to know too
[05:21] <[-DevinE-] > what is a i686 compatible procesor ?????
[05:21] <ubuntu> hi
[05:21] <seicherlbob> theine: http://pastebin.com/578561
[05:21] <kuja> gnomefreak: I'm talking about at boot time. Not GNOME startup
[05:22] <kuja> As in, once the kernel is uncompressed.
[05:22] <gnomefreak> kuja: ohhhhhhhh
[05:22] <avd1> freefab: put it in it's own (executable) file in /etc/init.d, and symlink it to e.g. /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rcS.d
[05:22] <kuja> :)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> sorry
[05:22] <theine> seicherlbob, that looks totally fine
[05:22] <kuja> gnomefreak: No prob, for the gnome stuff I usually use .gnomerc instead :)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> kuja: that works too
[05:22] <kuja> Yep :D
[05:23] <bob_> hello, anybody know about good wordbook for ubuntu (gnome) that has dbs of words stored locally
[05:23] <kenny> does anyone know of another Jpeg veiwer I could try?
[05:23] <seicherlbob> theine: so what can be the problem?
[05:23] <theine> seicherlbob, did you add yourself to any groups that were not a member of in the first place?
[05:23] <seicherlbob> theine: not a good feeling when everyone can do everything aslong as i'm not logged off
[05:24] <gnomefreak> kenny: gimp or gthumb
[05:24] <seicherlbob> theine: i had to do that manually cause i locked myself out of all groups (typing-mistake)
[05:24] <theine> seicherlbob, only members of the admin group will be able to do everything
[05:24] <sanitarium> gnome i forget the second sudo
[05:24] <sanitarium> lol
[05:24] <seicherlbob> theine: that's what i am now
[05:24] <gnomefreak> lol san
[05:24] <theine> seicherlbob, so which groups do you belong to?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> that will do it
[05:24] <sanitarium> cant type
[05:24] <kenny> gimp wont recognize it
[05:24] <theine> seicherlbob, yeah, but not everybody else I guess?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> sanitarium: you can run the commans sepratly if you wish
[05:24] <seicherlbob> theine: disk cdrom sudo audio video users admin
[05:25] <theine> seicherlbob, aha... remove yourself from the sudo group
[05:25] <sanitarium> gnomefreak, ok
[05:25] <seicherlbob> theine: ok, whats the sudogroup good for?
[05:25] <seicherlbob> AH!
[05:25] <gnomefreak> ok im gone time to get vc and school :(
[05:25] <theine> seicherlbob, appearently for using sudo without a password :)
[05:26] <seicherlbob> theine: its the group for sudo. so the system thinks i am sudo... so i can do everything
[05:27] <seicherlbob> theine: yes!
[05:27] <seicherlbob> theine: thats it. members of sudo dont get asked for sudo-password
[05:27] <theine> seicherlbob, good to know
[05:27] <_jason> hrmm never knew that
[05:27] <seicherlbob> wellwell... learning by trial and error
[05:27] <kenny> is there a tool that makes all this comman line stuff a lil more windows like.........not trying to be funny .
[05:28] <theine> seicherlbob, that's always a very good way of learning in my experience
[05:28] <seicherlbob> theine: thanks a lot!
[05:28] <engla> kenny: which stuff?
[05:28] <theine> seicherlbob, thank you too
[05:28] <seicherlbob> ;)
[05:29] <kenny> well like the installation of linux thats not in the synaptic package mgr
[05:29] <joachim-n> ok, CVS still says cvs checkout: No CVSROOT specified!  Please use the `-d' option
[05:29] <engla> kenny: the command line in windows is so much worse, you don't want  that ;-)
[05:29] <engla> kenny: there is tools for that
[05:29] <joachim-n> but echo $CVSROOT produces the corrent value
[05:29] <joachim-n> what's going on?
[05:29] <kenny> like I wanted real player  and none of my videos work
[05:29] <engla> kenny: like gdebi and other things. I  made a script to make it graphical once too
[05:29] <cemoi> salut
[05:29] <ninnnu> I like to use command line much more than some kind of GUI-stuff... It's a lot easier and faster that way (IMO)
[05:29] <seicherlbob> well, then, CU guys!!
[05:29] <ninnnu> (In Linux)
[05:30] <cemoi> .. sorry is not in french,,
[05:30] <kenny> this is my 2nd day on linux period ...But i love it
[05:30] <LinuxJones> kenny: it only gets better :)
[05:30] <cemoi> canal ubuntu-fr don't exist,?
[05:31] <kenny> what video program will work with avi, mpeg,mpg, and wmv
[05:31] <daved> if i create a package with checkinstall, is there any way for me to add some dependencies to it.. i'm putting it in a custom apt repository and would like the dependencies to be auto-installed
[05:31] <cemoi> personne de franais par ici,
[05:31] <[-DevinE-] > how 2 i run a bin sith sudo ?
[05:31] <bjornkri> cemoi: yes, /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:31] <[-DevinE-] > with
[05:31] <sanitarium> !seen gnomefreak
[05:31] <ubotu> gnomefreak <n=gnomefre@adsl-221-44-47.rmo.bellsouth.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 5m 50s ago, saying: 'ok im gone time to get vc and school :('.
[05:31] <kenny> I have several but none will play em
[05:31] <cemoi> PLEASE HELP ME
[05:31] <bjornkri> or should I say cetoi? ;)
[05:31] <cemoi> oups
[05:32] <dooglus> !fr
[05:32] <ubotu> methinks fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[05:32] <_jason> [-DevinE-] : sudo ./thiscandestroyyourcompurer.bin
[05:32] <joseph_> anyone know an application that will play .pls files for internet radios? RythmBOx Music Player keeps giving me an end of stream error
[05:32] <bjornkri> !is ?
[05:32] <ubotu> bjornkri: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:32] <cemoi> where is canal french for ubuntu,
[05:32] <cemoi> Ok thank's a lot
[05:32] <roidelapluie> @+, gros dist-upgrade du jour
[05:32] <daved> is there a channel with people that actually know a bit more hardcore things about ubuntu/linux in general?
[05:32] <dooglus> cemoi: how many more times?  french people aren't allowed in here!  ;)
[05:33] <joseph_> daved, #Linux ?
[05:33] <[-DevinE-] > 10x _jason again ... i was doing it like /.thiswount workonmyoldbox.bin
[05:33] <dooglus> daved: #ubuntu-hardcore ?
[05:33] <daved> joseph_: well i really need more ubuntu specific knowledge.. i.e. things about checkinstall
[05:33] <daved> is checkinstall a debian thing or an ubuntu thing?
[05:33] <cemoi> allowed? I d'ont understand
[05:33] <cemoi> canal don't exist.......
[05:33] <dooglus> cemoi: sorry.  silly joke.
[05:33] <cemoi>  ubuntu-fr :That channel doesn't exist
[05:34] <bjornkri> cemoi: did you type '#' before?
[05:34] <mdeboer> !fr
[05:34] <ubotu> methinks fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[05:34] <cemoi>  no
[05:34] <cemoi> sorry
[05:34] <dooglus> daved: you could find out that by checking whether debian has checkinstall.
[05:34] <bjornkri> well that explains it ;)
[05:34] <dooglus> daved: I'm pretty sure it does, but it had been orphaned last I checked
[05:34] <cemoi> yes it's ok
[05:34] <cemoi> thank's!
[05:34] <cemoi> ;)
[05:34] <daved> bah.. n00bs
[05:34] <cemoi> by by
[05:34] <bjornkri> you're welcome
[05:35] <dooglus> huh?
[05:35] <kenny> anybody know a video player that handles avi. mpeg n such?
[05:35] <colm_working> mplayer
[05:35] <mdeboer> !mplayer
[05:35] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[05:35] <engla> !mp3
[05:35] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:35] <xordae> kenny, totem can do that.. it's more of a codec thing
[05:36] <barbara> slt
[05:37] <tombs> hi all
[05:37] <bjornkri> is is Ef svo lklega vill til a slendingur vflist hinga inn  leit a hjlp  slensku, m prfa a fara  #ubuntu-is.
[05:37] <barbara> hi
[05:37] <bjornkri> !is
[05:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, is is the country code for iceland
[05:37] <bjornkri> bleh
[05:37] <barbara> french?
[05:37] <GullyFoyle> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats/part
[05:37] <bjornkri> international :)
[05:38] <bjornkri> type /join #ubuntu-fr for discussion in French
[05:39] <kenny> Where can I find plugins for totem
[05:39] <xordae> synaptic :)
[05:39] <MasterC> hi
[05:39] <xordae> kenny, look for gstreamer and ffmpeg
[05:39] <MasterC> I don't have the device /dev/mixer, where is it?
[05:40] <Mordof> ok, really need help, my applications menu has a Debian entry, with tons of folders in it... how do i get rid of that entirely? i dont know why its there
[05:40] <MasterC> sound is working correctly, but tvtime needs /dev/mixer, wich isn't available
[05:40] <kenny> thanks guys(and gals) I dont mean to be a bother but Im learning this stuff on my own lol its tough
[05:40] <chmod775> !hehe
[05:40] <ubotu> chmod775: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:40] <engla> Mordof: I think it's the 'menu' package
[05:40] <mdeboer> MasterC: what soundcard?
[05:41] <xordae> kenny, np, we all are :)
[05:41] <MasterC> mdeboer: Creative Soundblaster Live! 24-bit
[05:41] <barbara> where are french chat?please!
[05:41] <engla> !fr
[05:41] <ubotu> I guess fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[05:41] <Mordof> engla, i removed that and still nothin
[05:41] <pha> #ubuntu-fr
[05:41] <bjornkri> *groan*
[05:41] <engla> Mordof: then I had no idea
[05:41] <barbara> thx
[05:42] <MasterC> mdeboer: 0000:02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[05:42] <mdeboer> MasterC: try modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[05:42] <mdeboer> it's a bit of a guess
[05:42] <mdeboer> i wonder why tvtime needs /dev/mixer
[05:42] <keizers> hello everybody
[05:42] <bjornkri> dag
[05:42] <mdeboer> Master: ls -l /dev/mixer shows nothing?
[05:42] <keizers> Who is good here with printer problems?
[05:43] <mdeboer> !tell keizers about ask
[05:44] <keizers> !tell
[05:44] <keizers> ??
[05:44] <sapo> hi all, i just installed breezy here and cant install smbfs, it keeps saying: Package smbfs is not available.. how can i install it from elsewhere? thanx
[05:44] <mdeboer> keizers: just ask your question
[05:44] <keizers> ok
[05:44] <Webx> can anyone tell me what the regular expression * dose? i can only find tons of text when googeling..
[05:44] <sovin> question: is it normal for firefox to have a delay while surfing? (a delay, 'processing delay,' apart from lag/loading of page)...
[05:44] <mdeboer> sovin: never seen that
[05:45] <MasterC> mdeboer: hm, mixer is availbale but still no sound in tvtime
[05:45] <keizers> I cannot get my printer working, it's fully installed both when i print a tast i get an status 22 error in my cups log
[05:45] <keizers> and the task is canceled
[05:45] <Mordof> anyone else know how to get rid of my Debian Applications menu item
[05:45] <LinuxJones> Mordof: how did you get that ?
[05:45] <Webx> anyone knows what grep |sd.*s will do?
[05:45] <Mordof> i dont know
[05:45] <Mordof> i just looked in the menu and it was there :P
[05:46] <pudland> mordorf, do you have smeg installed
[05:46] <mdeboer> Webx: nothing usefull
[05:46] <Mordof> pudland, i dont think so...
[05:46] <keizers> mm, nobody who can help :'(
[05:46] <mdeboer> keizers: no idea...
[05:46] <Mordof> pudland, yes
[05:46] <unperson> Where can I find a complete listing of all the boot options for the Breeze live CD?
[05:46] <colm_working> Mordof, sudo apt-get remove menu
[05:46] <Mordof> pudland, but that wont get rid of it
[05:47] <unperson> I have googled but to no avail yet.
[05:47] <pudland> mordorf, it will hide it from the app menu
[05:47] <Mordof> colm_working, do i need to logout for that to take effect?
[05:47] <sanitarium> keizers
[05:47] <mdeboer> MasterC: i don't know tvtime.. but do other apps work?
[05:47] <LinuxJones> unperson: isn't there a list of options when you boot into the cd under like F5 key ?
[05:48] <sovin> mdeboer: compaired to say, surfing on a windows platform; browsing is a tad slower.
[05:48] <sanitarium> keizers i had similar problem it was parallel port set up in cmos
[05:48] <unperson> LinuxJones:  A rather small one yes.  I'm not sure that's very exhaustive.
[05:48] <colm_working> Mordof, looks like it...
[05:48] <unperson> LinuxJones:  If so, it's a lot fewer than on, e.g., Knoppix.
[05:49] <mdeboer> sovin: but it looks better! :-)
[05:49] <sovin> question: is there a way to enable multiverse via command line?
[05:49] <unperson> LinuxJones:  But, whereas Knoppix has a page discussing the options, I can't find one for Ubuntu.
[05:49] <mdeboer> sovin: sure, just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:49] <LinuxJones> unperson: google might be the best place to search for that info
[05:49] <sovin> mdeboer: i wholeheartedly agree (i'd never return to windows even if .. well.. i just won't by choice) =)
[05:49] <sovin> mdeboer: excellent! thanks
[05:50] <clever`rev>  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:50] <clever`rev> any way to fix it?
[05:50] <unperson> LinuxJones:  As I said, that's what I've been trying, but no luck.
[05:51] <unperson> Is there really no page on the Ubuntu site, the wiki, or anywhere else that lists all the livecd boot options?  I just assumed it must exist somewhere.
[05:51] <mdeboer> clever`rev: where do you get that?
[05:51] <mdeboer> when
[05:51] <[-DevinE-] > !permission
[05:51] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [-DevinE-] 
[05:51] <[-DevinE-] > damn
[05:51] <clever`rev> when trying to start a vnc binary i downloading mdeboer
[05:52] <[-DevinE-] > how do i change a folders permision by terminal ?
[05:52] <mdeboer> clever`rev: this binary has been linked to a version of the libc library that you don't have on your system
[05:52] <clever`rev> i downloaded the source but it doesnt compile everythnig
[05:52] <[-DevinE-] > !perm
[05:52] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, [-DevinE-] 
[05:52] <clever`rev> and i have a friend that has a game binary with the same error
[05:53] <unperson> Ok, to ask a more specific question, has anyone used the xmodule= option successfully with the Ubuntu LiveCD?
[05:53] <[-DevinE-] > how do i change a folders permision by terminal ?
[05:53] <sovin> question: can anyone refer a good sourcelist site?
[05:53] <nickrud> !sources
[05:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:53] <sovin> awesome.
[05:53] <unperson> [-DevinE-] :  chmod
[05:53] <btdown> yea use the 6666 one
[05:53] <theine> [-DevinE-] , with chmod
[05:53] <nickrud> [-DevinE-] : sudo chmod
[05:53] <mdeboer> clever`rev: well, apart from compiling not much you can do.
[05:53] <theine> nickrud, why sudo?
[05:53] <[-DevinE-] > chmod and then wat ?
[05:53] <ailean> does anyone have live streaming real video or windows streaming video working perfectly on mplayer?
[05:53] <[-DevinE-] > sodo so that it know i'm root
[05:53] <clever`rev> when i compile the vnc source im missing the main program Xvnc
[05:53] <wastrel> ubotu tell [-DevinE-]  about cli
[05:53] <mdeboer> clever`rev: you might, but really, this is an ugly hack, fake the presense of the lib
[05:54] <clever`rev> so its useless
[05:54] <unperson> [-DevinE-] :  You can type "man chmod" to see documentation, or google it for probably better explanations.
[05:54] <nickrud> theine: mixed a question I answered yesterday with this one.
[05:54] <fsdfs> If I shutdown my computer, is the information in my swap space removed?
[05:54] <nickrud> theine: dumb, eh?
[05:54] <[-DevinE-] > 10x
[05:54] <mdeboer> clever`rev: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[05:55] <ailean> or isn't it possible at the moment? (does anyone have live streaming real video or windows streaming video working perfectly on mplayer?)
[05:55] <clever`rev> still gives the error msg
[05:55] <mdeboer> clever`rev: but, really, this may very well not work, crash, and make your neighbours dog pregnant
[05:55] <wastrel> fsdfs:  I DON'T THINK SO
[05:55] <theine> [-DevinE-] , depends...
[05:55] <theine> [-DevinE-] , read more about it with "man chmod"
[05:55] <theine> [-DevinE-] , if you want to make a folder writeable by *all* users, type "chmod +w <folder>"
[05:55] <skhera> swap is of no use once u log off
[05:55] <wastrel> er, sry caps :] 
[05:55] <nickrud> ailean: not perfectly (not possible) but it works here
[05:56] <fsdfs> skhera: Once I log off all the information in the swap from my proceses as the user is gone?
[05:56] <mdeboer> clever`rev: sudo ldconfig
[05:56] <jetscreamer> wtf is a folder
[05:56] <fsdfs> skhera: Any slack information either, from ext3?
[05:56] <clever`rev> folder==directory
[05:56] <jetscreamer> ah
[05:56] <ailean> i have it working, but it skips and pauses with roughly second intervals . . . it's not watchable.  Is there any reason why it's not possible?
[05:56] <mdeboer> clever`rev: ai, no, sorry:  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[05:56] <nickrud> !dam
[05:56] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[05:56] <nickrud> !dma
[05:56] <clever`rev> ./Xvnc: symbol lookup error: ./Xvnc: undefined symbol: cerr
[05:56] <andrew_> can anyone help me?
[05:57] <ailean> don't ask to ask, just ask
[05:57] <wastrel> andrew_:  we can't help you until we know what the question is
[05:57] <nickrud> !tell ailean about dma
[05:57] <nickrud> ailean: most likely a dma problem, check out the ubotu link
[05:57] <andrew_> kk
[05:57] <andrew_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=782176#post782176
[05:57] <ailean> thanks nickrud
[05:57] <andrew_> check that out plz
[05:58] <seicherlbob> me again ;) i got problems with my thinkpad starting from hybernation. all i get are strange stripes when X is coming up. any ideas how i can fix that?
[05:58] <mdeboer> clever`rev: no idea... is there no debian/ubuntu package for this application?
[05:58] <clever`rev> i couldnt find one
[05:58] <seicherlbob> seems to me as if it could not start the display-drivers
[05:58] <clever`rev> in the package managed
[05:58] <clever`rev> and the site just has tar.gz and rpm files
[05:58] <wastrel> there's vnc in apt
[05:59] <clever`rev> and the one built into ubuntu sucks up cpu
[05:59] <andrew_> Yo i tryed installing my belkin card on my router with ubuntu and it just keeps saying
[05:59] <andrew_> root@leetbox:/home/andrew/Desktop/Driver# ndiswrapper -l
[05:59] <andrew_> Installed ndis drivers:
[05:59] <andrew_> bcmwl5 driver present
[05:59] <andrew_> and the led wont start flashing can anyone help?
[05:59] <andrew_> Pethers is online now   	Edit/Delete Message
[05:59] <jetscreamer> hey spam
[05:59] <jetscreamer> wow
[06:00] <wastrel> clever`rev:  there's at least 3 different vnc versions packaged for ubuntu
[06:00] <theine> seicherlbob, i would try playing around with /etc/default/acpi-support and see if that helps
[06:00] <theine> seicherlbob, there are several video related options
[06:01] <andrew_> anyone help me?
[06:01] <seicherlbob> theine: i'd like to avoid "playing"
[06:01] <vbgunz> Anyone here with an nVidia card (5600), using the nv driver and have a dual display going? Can you share your xorg.conf with me please?
[06:02] <seicherlbob> theine: what you mean by "video related options"?
[06:02] <theine> seicherlbob, toggling SAVE_VBE_STATE or POST_VIDEO won't make the situation worse
[06:02] <nickrud> seicherlbob: try searching the wiki for laptop, possibly there's a page for your laptop that has some guidance
[06:02] <andrew_> ..... nickrud
[06:03] <seicherlbob> nickrud: thanks. think i found something on the net. i'll check that when i got time... in 60 years when i'm retired ;)
[06:03] <nickrud> andrew_: I don't have any wireless, so .... I know nothing ;)
[06:03] <andrew_> lol
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> ive given up on wireless... easier to just run wires.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> faster to.
[06:03] <theine> seicherlbob, have you looked at http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki ?
[06:03] <nickrud> seicherlbob: you have a long life ahead then ;)
[06:03] <andrew_> lol im using my laptop so i like wireless
[06:04] <seicherlbob> no, i'll retire quite late ;)
[06:04] <noaXess> whats the command line system update tool in ubuntu?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> andrew_,  i also use my laptop.. I just use it in one of 4 different places in the house. so i ran wires to all 4 spots.
[06:04] <nickrud> noaXess: sudo aptitude update
[06:04] <seicherlbob> theine: thanks, thats great!
[06:04] <andrew_> i use it out of the ouse and everywhere i go
[06:04] <btdown> !apt
[06:04] <ubotu> hmm... apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[06:04] <andrew_> and wires suck lol
[06:04] <clever`rev> i just drag a 20foot network cable with me
[06:04] <Absenth> quick question.
[06:04] <seicherlbob> theine, nickrud : gotta go now. thanks for that info. See you later!
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> andrew_,  i cant even get wireless working under windows. :) i think the ductwork is causing issues.
[06:04] <Absenth> If I start with a 5.10 "server" install.  and apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <theine> seicherlbob, bye bye
[06:05] <noaXess> nickrud: okey.. as root only aptitude update i think
[06:05] <andrew_> i got it working with suse
[06:05] <Absenth> will that change my boot from init3 -5?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> i can see the neighbots network good however. :P
[06:05] <andrew_> and gentoo
[06:05] <andrew_> im surly someone can help me get it working wid ubuntu
[06:05] <nickrud> noaXess: yes, anything to do with installing/updating/removing packages requires root
[06:05] <Ashly> Ok, there a way to burn an image when your booted from Live CD 5.10?  because when I eject the cd I get errors
[06:05] <Ashly> This is going to be a pain in my rear if I have to reinstall windows
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Ashly,  could see if theres a 'toram' option when you first boot up. You will need a lot of ram however.
[06:06] <clever`rev> second cd drive Ashly
[06:06] <Demigod> i want to know whats my ip address from my linux box i tried ifconfig but im not sure which one its the right one
[06:06] <Demigod> can someone help me please?
[06:06] <Absenth> Demigod,  you have more then 1 NIC?
[06:06] <Demigod> what is NIC?
[06:06] <nickrud> Demigod: inet addr:
[06:07] <Absenth> Demigod, Network Interface card.
[06:07] <jetscreamer> !nic
[06:07] <ubotu> jetscreamer: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:07] <LjL> demigod: your internet address is 203.213.96.170
[06:07] <Demigod> no
[06:07] <Demigod> just 1
[06:07] <jetscreamer> lol@ljl
[06:07] <Demigod> yeah but i dont want my internet address
[06:07] <Demigod> i want my linux ip address
[06:07] <Absenth> Demigod, then, ifconfig, and read the dotted quad, after inet addr:
[06:07] <colm> eth0 inet addr - that will be your local address
[06:07] <jetscreamer> then why did you ask for it
[06:07] <jetscreamer> same thing
[06:07] <Demigod> ahh ok
[06:07] <LjL> demigod: "IP" means "internet protocol" :)
[06:07] <Absenth> Demigod, it'll look like..... 192.168.2.75
[06:08] <LjL> demigod: if you have more than one IP address, then you have more than one network card
[06:08] <colm> jetscreamer, my external internet ip is not the same as my internal
[06:08] <LjL> demigod: which address is "right" depends on which address you want to know about
[06:08] <jetscreamer> ah you think he runs a local network...
[06:08] <Demigod> i wanna run vnc on windows so i can do things on the linux box
[06:08] <andrew_> lol
[06:09] <colm> LjL, the loopback device is also listed, so it's eth0 that he's interested in
[06:09] <nickrud> colm: but wouldn't your local net address show in the same place ... ?
[06:09] <andrew_> vnc is easy to setup on winblows
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> VNC is dang Handy.
[06:09] <Demigod> yeah i know
[06:09] <Absenth> ssh > vnc :)
[06:09] <andrew_> lol
[06:09] <Demigod> but i need the ip address of the linux box
[06:09] <colm> nickrud, yes, that's all I see.  just contesting the "it's the same thing" comment
[06:09] <Absenth> but you're right,  VNC is very easy on windows.
[06:09] <nickrud> colm: behind a router or the like, ok then
[06:09] <LjL> demigod: ok, can you paste the output of ifconfig on the pastebin?
[06:10] <colm> freenx > ssh
[06:10] <nickrud> sneakernet rules
[06:10] <Absenth> bah.
[06:10] <clever`rev> is there a console cmd to list all packages that can be installed?
[06:10] <Demigod> and paste it here?
[06:10] <clever`rev> that i can then feed thru grep to search
[06:10] <nickrud> clever`rev: sudo aptitude search .*
[06:10] <Absenth> I'm not sure anything is better then ssh.
[06:11] <LjL> clever`rev: though can't you just use apt-cache to search? =)
[06:11] <colm> well truth be told freenx _uses_ ssh to do it's magic, but I'd certainly say that freenx > vnc
[06:11] <clever`rev> dont know
[06:11] <theine> Demigod, you can paste the output of "ifconfig | grep inet\ addr" here...
[06:11] <clever`rev> wanted a way to do it without the gui
[06:12] <wastrel> what's freenx?
[06:12] <LjL> clever`rev: uh, apt-cache is *not* gui
[06:12] <LjL> !tell clever`rev about shortapt
[06:12] <clever`rev> :)
[06:12] <Absenth> If I did a "server" install of 5.10, and then later apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  is that going to change the boot mode from cli to gui?
[06:12] <colm> clever`rev, apt-cache search .
[06:13] <clever`rev> i have the man page open:)\
[06:13] <Seveas> Absenth, yes
[06:13] <colm> !freenx
[06:13] <ubotu> freenx is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:13] <Absenth> well....  crapalishis :)  Thanks Seveas.
[06:13] <andrew_> ANyone wanna help me with wireless then?
[06:13] <Mordof> question: i use evolution mail... if i set it to check for new mail every 10 minutes, do i have to leave the window open?
[06:13] <Mordof> or is it just like a crontab
[06:14] <theine> ubotu, is it just me or does ubotu use the word "like" way too often?
[06:14] <ubotu> theine: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:14] <LjL> clever`rev: usually, people use apt-cache to search, and then grep to narrow the results, as apt-cache alone also searches in the long package descriptions
[06:14] <nubious> Anyone wanna gimmie a quick run thorugh on MySQL setup? I just through Breezy onto a partition cause I wanna try to get MythTv (www.mythtv.org) running...
[06:14] <Seveas> Mordof, you need to leave evolution open
[06:14] <clever`rev> k:)
[06:14] <LjL> clever`rev: so more often than not it will be something like "apt-cache search blah | grep blih"
[06:14] <Mordof> stupid... i wonder if evolution has a command line to check mail
[06:14] <nickrud> Absenth: if you want it to boot into the command line, sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[06:14] <Mordof> if so im making a crontab
[06:14] <Seveas> it has not
[06:15] <wastrel> Mordof:  there's a mail notification applet for gnome
[06:15] <Absenth> nickrud, that's easy enough,  Thanks.
[06:15] <theine> nickrud, may I suggest update-rc.d for that?
[06:15] <nickrud> theine: update-rc2.d is a very nice tool for building sane packages, but overkill for a simple change (to me, anyway)
[06:16] <nickrud> *update-rc.d
[06:16] <nubious> is there an apt-get command for mysql or is it installed by default>?
[06:16] <theine> nickrud, fair point
[06:16] <Mordof> wastrel, whats it called?
[06:16] <fsdfs> nubious: apt-get install mysql-server
[06:16] <colm> !tell nubious about lamp
[06:16] <ploom> !tell ploom lamp
[06:16] <wastrel> Mordof:  mail-notification  looks like
[06:17] <ploom> !tell ploom about lamp
[06:17] <andrew_> !tell me how 2 get wireless working
[06:17] <LjL> !msg the bot
[06:17] <ubotu> Please message the bot (me) in private, more info about the bot: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:17] <LjL> !bot
[06:17] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:17] <ploom> :-)
[06:18] <colm> Mordof, did you get rid of the debian menu?
[06:18] <andrew_> Yo i tryed installing my belkin card on my router with ubuntu and it just keeps saying
[06:18] <andrew_> root@leetbox:/home/andrew/Desktop/Driver# ndiswrapper -l
[06:18] <andrew_> Installed ndis drivers:
[06:18] <andrew_> bcmwl5 driver present
[06:18] <andrew_> and the led wont start flashing can anyone help?
[06:18] <jordo23> In Gnome....how to you add applications to the 'start' menu?
[06:18] <ninnnu> Hey, is Ubuntu's default-kernel BadRAM-patched ( http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/index.html )
[06:18] <Seveas> ninnnu,
[06:18] <Seveas> no
[06:19] <colm> jordo23, click applications > add/remove
[06:19] <LjL> ninnnu: hey, another badram user! anyway, no, don't think so
[06:19] <ninnnu> ok...
[06:19] <cedriczg> jordo23, right click
[06:19] <Absenth> so to find out about lamp, I'd /msg ubotu !lamp     ?
[06:19] <jordo23> colm: oh yeah....duh....didn't see it.
[06:19] <cedriczg> jordo23, right click > edit menus
[06:19] <LjL> Absenth: "/msg ubotu lamp", with no exclamation mark
[06:20] <ninnnu> Then I probably try to recompile Ubuntu's default-kernel with that...
[06:20] <cedriczg> does someone have the same trouble I have. When opening XMMS I have always to reload my playlist
[06:20] <nickrud> Absenth: opening a dialog window with ubotu works really well
[06:20] <Absenth> yeah,  it was the syntax to get what I wanted that was kicking my backside.
[06:20] <LjL> ninnnu: yeah, i really don't think it can be made as a module
[06:20] <Absenth> thanks all.
[06:21] <edward0> cedriczg:  I use vlc maybe you might like that?
[06:21] <cedriczg> edward0, a plugin called vlc?
[06:21] <VNA9216> hi everybody!
[06:21] <edward0> cedriczg: no vlc (video lan client) plays video/audio has playlist support etc... lots of stuff beats xmms imho
[06:22] <edward0> cedriczg: apt-get install vlc :)
[06:22] <cedriczg> oh
[06:22] <VNA9216> got a small question here...  is there any place where I can request for a kernel module to be included with ubuntu?  or make it available for easy installation with apt?
[06:23] <cedriczg> edward0, does it support .mod and .it files?
[06:23] <Seveas> VNA9216, which module?
[06:23] <edward0> cedriczg: has visualizations, mouse gestures, probably has support for all that you can read about it at http://www.videolan.org/
[06:23] <VNA9216> Seveas:  the fsam7400 module..
[06:23] <colm> !tell VNA9216 -about motu
[06:24] <cedriczg> edward0, thanxs, but I'd like also to fix that thing on my XMMS
[06:24] <VNA9216> Seveas: its needed to enable wireless network on fujitsu siemens amilo 7400 laptops..
[06:24] <Seveas> VNA9216, that ons is already available
[06:24] <edward0> cedriczg: well there is an xmms clone called bmp beep-media-player maybe that would work
[06:24] <VNA9216> it is?   I dont see it with apt..   and cant load it by default either..
[06:25] <Seveas> VNA9216, in breezy and dapper it's in the standard kernel packages
[06:25] <Seveas> linux-image-2.6.12-9-686: lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2100/fsam7400.ko
[06:25] <edward0> cedriczg: xmms is awful when you compare it to say vlc
[06:25] <VNA9216> ok :) thats good to know..
[06:25] <VNA9216> breezy is 5.10 right?
[06:25] <LjL> yes
[06:25] <Seveas> yes
[06:25] <cedriczg> edward0, I'm already downloading vlc to see it :)
[06:26] <VNA9216> ok :)  been running 5.04 at the moment... because I had a few small probs with 5.10  but I guess I will give it another try :)  tnx
[06:26] <VNA9216> ty for the help you guys :)
[06:31] <mike-e> what's the best route for me to get a linksys usb 10/100 network adapter to work
[06:32] <mike-e> i need to have a second adapter on this box to set up firmware on routers
[06:32] <ompaul> the one you take every day?
[06:32] <mike-e> troll
[06:32] <ompaul> :)
[06:33] <cedriczg> edward0, sorry but I didn't like much the vlc
[06:33] <mike-e> vlc is great
[06:33] <Determinist> vlc sucks
[06:33] <edward0> vlc sucks?
[06:33] <nickrud> +1 Determinist
[06:33] <mike-e> Determinist : why does it suck?
[06:33] <cedriczg> Iwas looking for a good mp3 player like winamp whcih is XMMS
[06:33] <Determinist> first, it crashes every time you try seeking through a file
[06:34] <Determinist> while totem and mplayer dont
[06:34] <mike-e> it doesn't on this box
[06:34] <Determinist> not to say mplayer works fine either, but it at least doesnt crash
[06:34] <mike-e> cedriczg : you could also try beep-media-player
[06:34] <edward0> Determinist: the latest vlc?
[06:34] <cedriczg> vlc didn't recogniza files in long directories
[06:34] <Determinist> edward0, the one from the repos
[06:34] <Webx> what dose grep as*d serch fore?
[06:34] <cedriczg> But I just wanted to fix a little problem in XMMS
[06:35] <cedriczg> How to have the last playlist I used when I open XMMS again
[06:35] <ompaul> mike-e, I honestly read that as - route to work - my brain left out the other meaning .. usb devices either show up or don't once you have it plugged in I would suggest having a look in  system- admin - networking, no other ideas come to mind
[06:35] <nickrud> Webx: nothing as you wrote it; grep searches inside a file or files: grep <searchterm> <file(s)>
[06:35] <Webx> anyone know what the regular expression * do? like in grep as*d ?
[06:35] <mike-e> thanks
[06:36] <Webx> nickrud: i know that.. what im enterested in is the regular expression *
[06:36] <edward0> * is anything or nothing at all
[06:36] <kronoz> er dunno about rgex but * is usually a wildcard :p
[06:36] <mike-e> ah you're right, i didn't even bother checking interfaces in gnome or in /etc/network/interfaces. i guess i just expected it to auto config since it's usb
[06:36] <nickrud> Webx: see two previous answers 
[06:37] <ompaul> Webx, looks like - "grep as* *" gets you all the characters with words starting with as and in the files of that dir
[06:37] <enyc> question:  ? where/how is the best place to report a needless annoyance with x.org init-script/config ?
[06:37] <Webx> i still dont get it
[06:37] <ompaul> mike-e, eth is not /dev/ why I don't know but there ya go
[06:38] <Webx> edward0: i reed that on the internet but i dont really get it
[06:38] <trappist> Webx: * is 0 or more characters or 0 or more of the preceding character
[06:38] <jmjones> ompaul actually, it matches anything with "as" followed by zero or more of any characters.
[06:38] <jmjones> ompaul but as* would match "fast"
[06:38] <trappist> ompaul: I think you're thinking of shell expansion, not regexes
[06:38] <ompaul> jmjones, your right
[06:39] <ompaul> trappist, even
[06:39] <Fredde> Is the new release of ubuntu stable?
[06:39] <ompaul> both of you :)
[06:39] <ompaul> the 5.10 is
[06:39] <ompaul> there is no release beyond that
[06:39] <Webx> trappist: i read that 2 but.. whats the difference whit
[06:39] <duckdown> Hi all.. I'm trying to connect to my moms Windows SMB printer here through GNOME, but it's asking me for a login/password (wtf?  I never had to set one when networking in Windows)  Does anyone know what either A> The default is, or B> How to find out the L/P from the computer I'm trying to connect to?  Thanks
[06:39] <Webx> trappist: i read that 2 but.. whats the difference whit * or whit out it
[06:40] <ompaul> Fredde,  there is a dev work called "dapper"
[06:40] <edward0> Webx: as* will match as, as1, as2, as12, asFOO, asfoo etc...
[06:40] <trappist> Webx: da*er will match daer, daper and dapper
[06:40] <enyc> question:  ? where/how is the best place to report a needless annoyance with x.org init-script/config -- yin that will load xorg.conf from current dir if exists rather than /etc/X11/xorg.conf with init.d/gdm etc. -- very annoying for debugging !! // where/how can I pos t a bug/suggestion thing??
[06:40] <Yokalosh> how do you get gtk 2?
[06:40] <Fredde> mopaul: I knew that, I got dapper and breezy mixed up
[06:40] <duckdown> Fredde: I'm using Dapper 4 and I think it's great
[06:40] <nickrud> Webx: I'd suggest http://www.regular-expressions.info/grep.html , you'll learn a lot more there than here 
[06:40] <Fredde> duckdown: what's better and new in the next version?
[06:40] <Webx> nickrud: already red it but i didnt really get it..
[06:41] <duckdown> Fredde: Newest GNOME, Newest versions of most tools, cool VGA installer/console mode settings, and built-in automatic updates
[06:41] <Webx> trappist: so you can say it represent a random string like in your case p and pp
[06:41] <duckdown> fredde: and that's just what ive noticed since installing yesterday night
[06:42] <ompaul> Webx, do this line one: cat > foo ::line two:fast asasdasd as dasdas asdfdfd :: line three:grep as* foo
[06:42] <Fredde> duckdown: did you use ubuntu before the new version you installed?
[06:42] <duckdown> fredde: Yes.. Kubuntu actually
[06:42] <duckdown> but i got sick of kde
[06:42] <duckdown> so went to ubuntu-dapper-4
[06:42] <edward0> Webx: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
[06:42] <Fredde> duckdown: how do you do system updates, do you burn a new cd or internet update?
[06:42] <duckdown> fredde: Internet update.. it's built right into the taskbar like in Windows
[06:42] <duckdown> it rocks
[06:43] <ompaul> Fredde, all the dapper conversation is in #ubuntu+1 read the topic on your way in there :)
[06:43] <Fredde> duckdown: I use openbox, so I'll have to get into gnome when I'm going to update
[06:43] <trappist> Webx: actually for regexes I misspoke.  it would be da.*er.  it's a multiplier for the preceding character.  da.*er would match those 3 things because it's a "zero or more" multiplier.  da.+er would only match daper or dapper because it's one or more.
[06:43] <edward0> Fredde: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[06:44] <nickrud> Webx: maybe this one is better, it has some examples: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/grep.html
[06:44] <Fredde> edwar0: Thanks
[06:44] <edward0> Fredde:  there is a package as well to automate apt updates: cron-apt I belive
[06:45] <Fredde> edwar0: okey
[06:45] <Fredde> edward0
[06:45] <edward0> Fredde: cron-apt - automatic update of packages using apt-get
[06:45] <nino> hi all
[06:46] <Webx> trappist: so p.*e (for example) would match? =S *reading*
[06:47] <andrew_> can someone help me?
[06:47] <trappist> Webx: anything with an e after a p with 0 or more characters in between. like punxatawnee.
[06:47] <andrew_> with wireless
[06:47] <trappist> andrew_: not if you don't ask a question.
[06:48] <andrew_> lol
[06:48] <Webx> trappist: think i finaly got it =) thanks for the help
[06:48] <andrew_> if you would please read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=782176#post782176
[06:48] <andrew_> and tell me whats up
[06:48] <edward0> Webx: p.*e would match p, one character (.), any character or nothing at all (*), and e
[06:48] <trappist> Webx: it would also match pe.  if you want to match p<something>e but not pe, use p.+e
[06:49] <trappist> edward0: or a zillion characters
[06:49] <albacker> guys i can play wma's in totem but i can't under BMP.. do you know why does this happen ?!
[06:49] <trappist> as in punxatawnee.
[06:49] <[-DevinE-] > oky i cant do it by myself .. i have a directory named PlanetShift how do i make it accesible 2 other users besides root ?
[06:50] <[-DevinE-] > using chmod
[06:50] <trappist> [-DevinE-] : depends what you mean by accessible.  readable?  writable?  viewable?
[06:50] <Webx> trappist and edward0, thanks
[06:50] <[-DevinE-] > all of them
[06:50] <sovin> question: i'm thinking about _uninstalling_ several unnecessary packages from my system (fetchmail, serpentine, rhythymbox..) but when i mark them for removal it always says it will remove the ubuntu-desktop.. will anything ahppen if i remove that?
[06:50] <edward0> Webx: read abs if you really want to learn
[06:51] <trappist> [-DevinE-] : that's a bad idea and I won't be a part of it - unless you want a *specific* user to be able to do all that, in which case you use chown.
[06:51] <wastrel> sovin:  that's just a wrapper
[06:51] <andrew_> Right trappist
[06:51] <andrew_> Yo i tryed installing my belkin card on my router with ubuntu and it just keeps saying
[06:51] <andrew_> root@leetbox:/home/andrew/Desktop/Driver# ndiswrapper -l
[06:51] <andrew_> Installed ndis drivers:
[06:51] <andrew_> bcmwl5 driver present
[06:51] <wastrel> sovin:  you can remove it safely
[06:51] <andrew_> and the led wont start flashing can anyone help?
[06:51] <sovin> wastrel: thank you.
[06:51] <andrew_> ignore the router shit
[06:51] <sovin> ubotu, tell sovin about wrapper
[06:51] <andrew_> i dunno why i put it
[06:51] <sovin> >_> i'll look it up.
[06:51] <[-DevinE-] > trappist:.: i want my user u acces it ... coz now only root can and i can browse the folder
[06:51] <[-DevinE-] > crown ???
[06:51] <trappist> [-DevinE-] : sudo chown -R username directory
[06:52] <[-DevinE-] > oky 10x
[06:52] <wastrel> sovin:  it's a "meta package"  made to easily install a bunch of other packages at one time.
[06:52] <andrew_> .................
[06:53] <Webx> edward0: for the exampel i gave p.*n the (.) dosnt really matter dose it?
[06:53] <mikebot> wat's the best virus scanner and firewall for ubuntu?
[06:53] <andrew_> ........................ someone help me then
[06:53] <andrew_> lol
[06:54] <bjornkri> Having problems with wireless, andrew?
[06:54] <evilbulgarian> hi, is it possible to reset the mysql root password without stopping the mysql server?
[06:54] <andrew_> yes bjoernki
[06:55] <andrew_> remove the e
[06:55] <bjornkri> hehe
[06:55] <andrew_> bcmwl5 driver present
[06:55] <andrew_> it aint picking up the hardware
[06:56] <csb> .join #perl
[06:56] <bjornkri> well, don't know much about it really.. but for me it was simply a matter of System | Administration | Networking, and then enabling it
[06:56] <Demigod> anyone in here who use apache?
[06:56] <andrew_> its not there bjor
[06:56] <bjornkri> Ah
[06:57] <podzone> Demigod me why
[06:57] <bjornkri> So what do you have there? Just eth0?
[06:57] <andrew_> yes
[06:57] <mikebot> anyone know about virus scanners and firewalls for ubuntu?
[06:57] <andrew_> google mike
[06:57] <bjornkri> !virus
[06:57] <ubotu> bjornkri: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:57] <bjornkri> bla, worth a shot
[06:57] <bluszcz> hi
[06:58] <mikebot> andrew_: i was wondering what everyone thought was the ebst one was
[06:58] <podzone> mikebot download webmin.tar.gz
[06:58] <bluszcz> can anyone can help me with: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/32968
[06:58] <bluszcz> ?
[06:58] <mikebot> podzone: thanks
[06:58] <podzone> i have slackware 10.2
[06:58] <andrew_> google it mikebot
[06:58] <bjornkri> sorry andrew, I tend to get stuck when it's not completely elementary :\
[06:58] <andrew_> lol its ok
[06:59] <podzone> over webmin all can conf fireall,apache and so on
[06:59] <mikebot> andrew_: google what?
[06:59] <andrew_> "The best virus and firewall for ubunut"
[06:59] <andrew_> ops
[06:59] <andrew_> ubuntu
[06:59] <wastrel> andrew_:  what wireless card do you have
[06:59] <andrew_> belkin
[07:00] <bjornkri> a ubunut is another word for an ubuntu enthusiast
[07:00] <mikebot> okay
[07:00] <Webx> how do i list all viritual links in a folder whit ls and grep?
[07:00] <kronoz> linux already has a firewall
[07:00] <kronoz> its called iptables :p
[07:00] <trappist> Webx: you mean symbolic links?
[07:00] <wastrel> andrew_:  you followed the wiki page on setting up ndiswrapper?
[07:00] <kronoz> webx: ls -a
[07:00] <andrew_> yea
[07:01] <wastrel> andrew_:  you're sure your specific card is supported?
[07:01] <Webx> trappist: yeh probably =)... ls -a lists all files.. i want the links only
[07:01] <andrew_> it works on any other linux
[07:01] <trappist> Webx: find . -type l
[07:02] <duckdown> Hi all.. I'm trying to connect to my moms Windows SMB printer here through GNOME, but it's asking me for a login/password (wtf?  I never had to set one when networking in Windows)  Does anyone know what either A> The default is, or B> How to find out the L/P from the computer I'm trying to connect to?  Thanks
[07:02] <Webx> how do i know if a file (link) is viritual? whats the "name tag" for it?
[07:02] <trappist> Webx: find . -type l -maxdepth 1  if you don't want it recursive
[07:02] <desousa2> hy there
[07:02] <kronoz> if you cd it you'll end up somewhere else :p
[07:02] <edward0> Webx: ls -F
[07:02] <bjornkri> hehe
[07:03] <kronoz> webx: symlink not virtual!!
[07:03] <desousa2> how can i switch trough the "screens" in the keyboard?
[07:03] <kronoz> alt+f*
[07:03] <andrew_> wastrel: ive been using  it on linux for ages, ive just switching over to ubunut
[07:03] <andrew_> fs:@
[07:03] <andrew_> ubuntu*
[07:03] <Webx> lol.. what i want to do is use ls and grep to find "symbolic links"
[07:04] <aaronshaf> What's the open source alternative to VMWare?
[07:04] <bjornkri> desousa2: or do you mean ctrl+alt left/right?
[07:04] <kronoz> aaribshaf: Xen
[07:04] <trappist> Webx: ls -F | grep '@$'
[07:04] <wastrel> andrew_:  i dunno - did you try installing the latest version of ndiswrapper like it says on the wiki page?
[07:04] <mikebot> where does firefox save passwords?
[07:04] <edward0> Webx: ls -F | grep "@$"
[07:04] <Webx> trappist: thanks man
[07:04] <desousa2> i mean by the "screens" not "windows"
[07:04] <kronoz> aaribshaf: but it will only run other unixes because m$ are difficult
[07:04] <desousa2> and alt+f*
[07:04] <mikebot> because i want to move that file from my ntfs partition to this one
[07:04] <andrew_> it  is up2 date
[07:04] <trappist> Webx: we're not doing homeword for you, are we?
[07:04] <edward0> trappist: :)
[07:04] <trappist> *homework
[07:04] <desousa2> doesnt work
[07:05] <Webx> trappist: of corse not ;)
[07:05] <mikebot> anyone know about saved passwords in firefox?
[07:06] <wastrel> desousa2:  do you mean virtual desktop switching in gnome?
[07:06] <desousa2> yea
[07:06] <bjornkri> try ctrl+alt+f*
[07:06] <wastrel> bjornkri:  that doesn't work in gnome
[07:06] <wastrel> desousa2:  ctrl-alt  left & right arrow
[07:06] <bjornkri> works fine for me :s
[07:06] <wastrel> desousa2:  like bjornkri said earlier
[07:06] <bjornkri> ahh..
[07:06] <bjornkri> heh
[07:07] <podzone> kde is better than gnome:D
[07:07] <bjornkri> yeah, though I had it wrong the first time round :)
[07:07] <edward0> podzone: kde 3.5.x is a mess
[07:07] <bjornkri> when I did get it right, but then messed it up :S
[07:07] <trappist> let's take the desktop flame wars to -offtopic
[07:07] <aaronshaf> So VMWare is really the only practical solution to running windows?
[07:07] <edward0> podzone: make 4.x will be nice if they clean everything up which I take it they are planning on doing :D
[07:07] <duckdown> edward0: agreed
[07:07] <wastrel> sigh some tool has a car alarm without auto-shutoff going outside my apartment
[07:07] <edward0> make/maybe
[07:07] <duckdown> kde 3.5 is bloatware
[07:08] <trappist> let's take the desktop flame wars to -offtopic
[07:08] <duckdown> feels slow
[07:08] <Angel_Dex> Anyone having repo problems?
[07:08] <edward0> trappist: don't think it has come to a (flamewar) yet :D
[07:08] <podzone> edward0 i use xfce on slackware...no gnome or kde:D
[07:09] <naetrick> How do I mount my USB flash drive in Linux?
[07:09] <nicholaspaul> Angel_Dex, i was when using canadian ones. I switched to 'us' prefix and they work fine.
[07:09] <edward0> podzone: I mostly use ratpoison but gnome on my ubuntu setup :)
[07:09] <duckdown> nicholaspaul: yeah .ca is no good
[07:09] <naetrick> I try "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/flash -t vfat", but it gives me no such device
[07:09] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul just now?
[07:09] <naetrick> the kernel recognizes the drive, however
[07:09] <kronoz> aaronshaf: pretty much
[07:09] <Ninja> can anyone help me with trying to encode video for the iPod Video,
[07:10] <Ninja> im having trouble fixing ffmpeg
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> Angel_Dex,  that was 9 hrs ago
[07:10] <trappist> naetrick: tried sda0?  checked dmesg for the device?
[07:10] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul Ok cuz i just started having repo problems
[07:11] <mikebot> is there a way to import to gtkpod an itunes file so that it loads all the mp3s i had in my itunes?
[07:11] <nicholaspaul> Angel_Dex, oh. I just checked, all mine seem fine.
[07:11] <s-wx> can you tell me if ca.archive.ubuntu.com is up at this moment?
[07:11] <s-wx> just ping
[07:11] <naetrick> trappist: Still doesn't work, and dmesg gives me "usb 1-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4"
[07:11] <Verithrax> How do I reconfigure Ubuntu with Kubuntu installed to use KDM instead of GDM?
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> s-wx, i would switch to us.
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> s-wx, thats us.archive.ubuntu.com
[07:12] <edward0> Verithrax: apt-get install kdm
[07:12] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul Oks
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> np Angel_Dex
[07:12] <s-wx> understood but is the CA up please ?
[07:12] <edward0> Verithrax: it should ask you which login manager you would like to use, if not edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[07:13] <naetrick> could it be I don't have the correct support in my kernel for "sda" drives?
[07:13] <Verithrax> KDM is installed already.
[07:13] <defrysk> Verithrax, sudo apt-get remove gdm
[07:13] <trappist> naetrick: that could be if you've built your own kernel
[07:13] <trappist> naetrick: you need scsi disk support
[07:13] <rysiek|pl> hi there guys
[07:13] <naetrick> trappist: Oh, and lsusb gives me "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0781:5150 SanDisk Corp. SDCZ2 Cruzer Mini Flash Drive (thin)"
[07:14] <rysiek|pl> aksed this on #kubuntu, but got no ideas there
[07:14] <rysiek|pl>  incoming one usplash question: on the USplash wiki page it says, that the image for usplash has to be 16 colours, indexed. But I am using vga=791 in my kernel parameters (that's 1024x768x16bit) - what should the image palette be in that case?
[07:14] <Tigge> Hello
[07:14] <trappist> rysiek|pl: I do believe it has to be 16 colors no matter what.
[07:14] <Angel_Dex> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg
[07:14] <Angel_Dex> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/Release.gpg
[07:14] <Angel_Dex> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-backports/Release.gpg
[07:15] <naetrick> trappist: I think I have that as a module... what is the correct module I should modprobe?
[07:15] <bjornkri> one thing I've been wondering about when it comes to gtkpod... Will I still be able to use the ipod with iTunes on a different computer? Will anything I copy to the iPod on my Ubuntu setup be removed when I connect to the iTunes computer, or will iTunes update itself?
[07:15] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul thts what im getting
[07:15] <bjornkri> If you know what I mean...
[07:15] <trappist> naetrick: usb-storage should pull its dependencies with it
[07:15] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul should i switch to US or can i just add US onto it and have um both?
[07:15] <nicholaspaul> Angel_Dex, I would change them all to US. works well for me.
[07:16] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul i was told US is broken alot
[07:16] <ablomen> bjornkri: it should work the same way as itunes does, if you do get trouble you can just repair it again with the ipod firmware util (tough that would remove all the music on the ipod)
[07:17] <nicholaspaul> oh. Angel_Dex I have one system that has no prefix. Try that
[07:17] <bebel_brayner> q diaxisso
[07:17] <rysiek|pl> trappist: ok, trying.
[07:17] <naetrick> trappist: It says no such module
[07:17] <trappist> naetrick: seems you're missing some kernel pieces.
[07:17] <naetrick> I tried modprobing "scsi_mod", still no go
[07:18] <ablomen> bjornkri: so it shouldnt be a problem, unless you do something realy wrong ;)
[07:18] <desousa2> lol
[07:18] <bjornkri> hehe thanks :)
[07:18] <desousa2> ctrl+alt+f* goes to
[07:18] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul i think ca is busted cuz ALL od them arent working but the europe ones are
[07:18] <desousa2> console mode virtual something
[07:18] <bjornkri> haha you're back? Thought that might have happened :P
[07:18] <ablomen> any time
[07:18] <bjornkri> I thought that was what you were trying to do, guess not
[07:18] <ganondorf-87> lu
[07:18] <nicholaspaul> Angel_Dex, which ones are working for you?
[07:19] <desousa2> like i whant in grafical mode
[07:19] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul i htink just europe?
[07:19] <bjornkri> To get back from that, ctrl-alt-f7 should work ;)
[07:19] <naetrick> trappist: That would be it :)
[07:19] <Angel_Dex> nicholaspaul i havent tryed us yet tho
[07:19] <nicholaspaul> oh ok
[07:19] <mikebot> can you force quit in ubuntu?
[07:19] <bjornkri> desousa2, for what you're trying to do, I think ctrl-alt- left and right arrow is what you're looking for
[07:19] <desousa2> geez thanx
[07:20] <desousa2> bjornkri, it work
[07:20] <harfooz> mikebot, do you mean something like what one might use in Mac OS X?
[07:20] <bjornkri> no probs :)
[07:20] <wastrel> mikebot:  you have a program that's misbehaving?
[07:20] <desousa2> bjornkri, whats the purpuse of the console modes?
[07:20] <mikebot> wastrel: i was trying to add a custom something to synaptic, and it wasn't working
[07:20] <mikebot> harfooz: never use dosx
[07:21] <bjornkri> well, you might need to run something as someone else.. or if X freezes you might go there to shut it down the hard way ;)
[07:21] <harfooz> mikebot, try this: open a terminal, type ps -ef, find the process id number, and kill the offending process with kill pid. where pid means process id.
[07:21] <mikebot> wastrel: i had to log out/in, so iw as wondering if there was a force quit option
[07:21] <bjornkri> never used it myself, really
[07:21] <mikebot> harfooz: okay, thanks
[07:21] <wastrel> mikebot:  synaptic froze?
[07:21] <desousa2> lol i usualy just press power off
[07:21] <bjornkri> :)
[07:21] <kronoz> you could just do killall synaptic
[07:21] <mikebot> wastrel: it didn't freeze, cause i could click on the window and it would get focus, but wouldn't move or anything
[07:22] <desousa2> but ... sometime this frizes
[07:22] <desousa2> it as been said that linux only crashs when the hardware is not in good conditions
[07:22] <wastrel> mikebot:  applications->system tools->system monitor  will let you kill programs
[07:22] <desousa2> is it true?
[07:22] <codin> hi
[07:22] <mikebot> wastrel: ah, thanks
[07:22] <codin> how can I boot in text mode using the LiveCD ?
[07:23] <mikebot> wastrel: do you use antivirus and firewall programs?
[07:23] <kronoz> codin: try putting init=3 on the kernel parameters
[07:24] <codin> thanks, I'll try right now
[07:24] <trappist> mikebot: I only use an antivirus on my mail server to protect windows users.
[07:24] <mikebot> trappist: oh, so it's unnecessary?
[07:24] <idefix> if you type eject cdrom0 and it works, is cdrom0 then mounted?
[07:24] <wastrel> i don't use av or firewall but i do have a router running NAT, so my LAN is somewhat protected already
[07:24] <mikebot> speaking of mail, does anyone know why thunderbird only makes a seperate folder for one of my email accounts, and the other 2 just get put under Local?
[07:24] <trappist> mikebot: it's really hard to write an effective virus for linux.
[07:25] <mikebot> trappist: how come?
[07:25] <bjornkri> mikebot, there's an option somewhere.. under accounts. "Put mail in Local" or something like that
[07:25] <mikebot> bjornkri: oh, okay thanks
[07:25] <trappist> mikebot: in windows most people do everything as the administrator, so all the executables get infected.  in linux your user doesn't have write access to system files.
[07:25] <bjornkri> And it's checked by default iirc
[07:25] <idefix> if you type 'eject cdrom0' and it works, is cdrom0 then mounted?
[07:25] <idefix> if so home come I can't play from it?
[07:25] <HappyFool> idefix: shouldn't be. check with 'mount'
[07:26] <mikebot> trappist: ahh
[07:26] <trappist> mikebot: there's a lot more to it than that, but that goes a long way toward making a virus's job hard.
[07:26] <HappyFool> idefix: maybe I misunderstood - you ejected the CD ?
[07:26] <idefix> yes it worked
[07:26] <radar1976> what ftpd program works well with Ubuntu ??
[07:26] <radar1976> I have PPC (Mac Mini)
[07:26] <idefix> so then the cdrom0 station is mounted, how else can I otherwise eject it?!?!
[07:26] <mikebot> trappist: okay, well, i guess i don't need one now
[07:26] <daniel1988> hi everyone. One of my friend needs help with ubuntu. Q: which dhcp client comes with ubuntu? and how should the look like - sudo name_of_dhcp_client eth0 ? TIA
[07:26] <B_166-ER-X> can someone help ? i'm trying to configure my webcam to be able to run it with amsn 0.95, but i'm not sure to get whats my problem, i've looked at http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Webcam+In+aMSN#test , but my test.tcl is not in the same Dir as they say, and wont run..
[07:27] <HappyFool> idefix: are you using normal graphical ubuntu (i.e., gnome) ?
[07:27] <radar1976> idefix: type umount /mnt/cdrom0
[07:27] <mikebot> bjornkri: is there a way to amke it so i can send messages from different accounts?
[07:27] <trappist> mikebot: firewalls, on the other hand, aren't a bad idea.
[07:27] <nicholaspaul> Is there a command line to set DNS servers?? I want to put all my Networking gui settings in a script.
[07:27] <lullabud> radar1976: are you looking for a client or server for your mac or ubuntu?
[07:27] <trappist> nicholaspaul: dns servers are set in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:27] <nicholaspaul> aah thanks trappist !
[07:27] <idefix> umount: /mnt/cdrom0 is not mounted (according to mta
[07:27] <idefix> b)
[07:27] <radar1976> lullabud: server, I installed VSFTPD but only one user account can login, not sure why the others can't login
[07:28] <HappyFool> idefix: are you using graphical ubuntu?
[07:28] <idefix> yes
[07:28] <radar1976> idefix: type mount and see where it is mounted
[07:28] <nicholaspaul> trappist, does it matter what order they are in? Can i have too many ?
[07:28] <mikebot> trappist: what firewall would you recommend?
[07:28] <radar1976> eject should work on its own
[07:28] <warren1> how do i make it so applications aren't fighting over my sound card and instead just share it?
[07:28] <codin> how can I boot in text mode using the LiveCD ?, init=3 doesn't work
[07:28] <HappyFool> idefix: do you see a CD-ROM icon on your desktop?
[07:28] <daniel1988> anyone?
[07:28] <lullabud> radar1976: by default vsftpd only allows anonymous access and doesn't have access enabled to local users.  did you edit the conf file to allow local users accounts to log in?
[07:28] <trappist> nicholaspaul: they're in order of preference, and I'm sure you can have as many as you like.
[07:28] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  i think the listed order is the search order,  first one is tried first, etc.
[07:28] <idefix> HappyFool, it's not in the list, only cdrom1 is
[07:28] <trappist> mikebot: I use ipkungfu.  but I'm biased because I wrote it.
[07:28] <radar1976> lullabud: yes and disabled the anonymous user access as well
[07:29] <lullabud> daniel1988: `sudo pump`
[07:29] <mikebot> trappist: haha okay..well is it good?
[07:29] <bjornkri> not sure mikebot, there's only one outgoing server I think. But you can change the Return address when you're composing your message
[07:29] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  man resolv.conf  should be full of factoids :] 
[07:29] <trappist> mikebot: of course :)
[07:29] <nicholaspaul> wastrel, trappist oh i see
[07:29] <HappyFool> idefix: do you see a CD-ROM icon on your desktop?
[07:29] <bjornkri> so it can look like you sent from any one of your accounts :)
[07:29] <nicholaspaul> wastrel,  good old man :) thx
[07:29] <idefix> HappyFool no
[07:29] <mikebot> bjornkri: heh okay thanks
[07:29] <lullabud> radar1976: strange.  so you have more than one account on the ubuntu machine, but only one of them can log in?
[07:29] <HappyFool> idefix: ok. when you type mount, you see an entry for /media/cdrom1 ?
[07:30] <deefzi> suddenly opera refuses to show flash-videos when i run it through alsa-oss, why?
[07:30] <idefix> /dev/hdd on /media/cdrom1 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=vincent)
[07:30] <mikebot> trappist: can ig et your firewall through synaptic
[07:30] <daniel1988> lullabud: sudo pump eth0 ?
[07:30] <HappyFool> idefix: ok, does 'umount /media/cdrom1' work ?
[07:30] <radar1976> lullabud: yes I have root plus tons of other users, the second user account (mine) which I created at install is the only account that can login
[07:30] <lullabud> daniel1988: well, you can just do `sudo pump` and it'll initiate a dhcp request on all interfaces.  or you can do `sudo pump -i eth0`
[07:30] <trappist> mikebot: if you have the universe repository setup
[07:30] <idefix> yes it's gone now
[07:30] <lullabud> daniel1988: or you could do `man pump` ;-)
[07:30] <bjornkri> bwahaha
[07:30] <idefix> HappyFool, can you only have one cdrom you mean?
[07:30] <Angel_Dex> Is it ok to have like US CA and EI repos on?
[07:31] <radar1976> idefix did it eject the disc?
[07:31] <mikebot> trappist: okay, thanks
[07:31] <idefix> no the icon disappeared from the desktop
[07:31] <HappyFool> idefix: no, but if you use umount you have to specify the correct mount point
[07:31] <HappyFool> idefix: i thought you said there was no icon?
[07:31] <radar1976> idefix: you can have one CD based on the number of drives in the computer
[07:31] <idefix> I have two cdrom's
[07:31] <radar1976> ahh ok
[07:31] <radar1976> try eject /media/cdrom or /media/cdrom1
[07:31] <daniel1988> lullabud: TY, I will tell him, for me dhcpcd (on Gentoo) works w/o problems, but dhcpcd is not included in Ubuntu by default
[07:32] <mikebot> okay, when i open a program, and while it's opening i switch to a different workspace, the program will open in my current workspace...can i prevent this>?
[07:32] <daniel1988> lullabud: TY again, have a nice  day
[07:32] <HappyFool> idefix: the easiest way would have been to right-click on the CD-ROM icon on the desktop and chosen 'eject'
[07:32] <idefix> that works radar 1976, I already did that
[07:32] <idefix> HappyFool  I have two CDrom's, I know I should sell one, but I haven't yet
[07:32] <radar1976> idefix go to system the preferences, then removeable media
[07:33] <radar1976> idefix nevermind
[07:33] <wastrel> mikebot:  i don't think there's an easy way to fix that...  you can use the graphical workspace switcher to move the window back to the other workspace, or you can right-click on the titlebar of the window and select one of the options to move the window to another workspace
[07:34] <idefix> I'm in the removable drives menu
[07:34] <nicholaspaul> wastrel,  just so i'm clear - is domain the name of my LAN?
[07:34] <radar1976> idefix just ignore that
[07:34] <radar1976> sorry
[07:35] <mikebot> wastrel: ah okay
[07:35] <mikebot> wastrel: bjornkri trappist: thanks for all your help, i have to got o class
[07:35] <mikebot> cya later
[07:35] <radar1976> idefix: do you see this line when you type mount /dev/hdb on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=shaun)
[07:35] <Angel_Dex> Um anyone hacing Canada problems with their repos?
[07:35] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  the domain is your local domain name if you have one, i don't think it's necessary to specify it in the resolv.conf
[07:35] <clever`rev> what cmd do i run to install x server headers so i can compile x server programs on ubuntu?
[07:36] <nicholaspaul> wastrel, so in my router settings i named my LAN. Thats my local domain name?
[07:36] <radar1976> k back to my vsftpd
[07:36] <radar1976> any idea why only one user is able to login to the ftp but no one else?
[07:36] <HappyFool> clever`rev: easy option is x-window-system-dev, but that's fairly broad
[07:36] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  use a search line instead of a domain line.   search <lan name>
[07:37] <bons> is ubuntu viable on an older powermac g3?  what kind of performance issues are we talking about here?
[07:37] <nicholaspaul> wastrel,  gotcha. thx
[07:37] <idefix> HappyFool, there are vob, bup and ifo files on the CDROM, which one is the movie?
[07:37] <idefix> (should be DVDROM)
[07:37] <clever`rev> the vob i think
[07:37] <clever`rev> and i used dvdcp to get them off
[07:38] <wastrel> bons:  what cpu speed & how much ram?
[07:38] <HappyFool> idefix: i'm not sure, sorry
[07:38] <idefix> clever`rev?
[07:38] <clever`rev> i installed a package called dvdcp
[07:38] <clever`rev> which let me copy the files from the dvd
[07:38] <nicholaspaul> wastrel, my issue is that i can 'get' to the router (on wifi) and to my local server, but no further.
[07:39] <idefix> to your harddisk? why would you want that?
[07:39] <idefix> all I want is play my DVD
[07:39] <bons> ummm... not sure really. it was a top end g3 back when they were the cutting edge. it has a 6gig hd and around 256ram
[07:39] <clever`rev> because i was bored
[07:39] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  you can ping the router but not, say google?
[07:39] <clever`rev> vlc can play dvds on ubuntu for me
[07:39] <idefix> clever`rev... how can I play my DVD?
[07:39] <nicholaspaul> yes wastrel
[07:39] <idefix> I have vlc installed
[07:39] <clever`rev> once i install the decoding libradis
[07:39] <radar1976> this is what I get
[07:39] <radar1976> 331 Please specify the password.
[07:39] <radar1976> Password:
[07:39] <radar1976> 530 Login incorrect.
[07:39] <radar1976> Login failed.
[07:39] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  can you ping 72.14.207.99   < a google ip address?
[07:39] <clever`rev> for legal reasons they cant be on by default
[07:40] <JoelOl75> anybody have an idea how to fix the mouseover mp3 "preview" in gnome.  Mine just makes a chirp sound on one of 4 ubuntu machine I use.  It used to work perfect.  is mpg321 the problem? or matacity?
[07:40] <ktogias> Hi, Does anybody have a clue of what the message: OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 247: (): illegal instruction in trans8x8_u16_mmx repeating during various packages installation means?
[07:40] <nicholaspaul> wastrel, no - network is unreachable.
[07:40] <idefix> running one of the vob files with vls doesn't seem to work
[07:40] <idefix> clever`rev
[07:40] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  ok that's not a DNS problem :] 
[07:40] <idefix> (see above)
[07:41] <radar1976> :(
[07:41] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  you probably need to set a default gateway
[07:41] <k^^> heh sry abou that clever`rev
[07:41] <idefix> who is k^^???
[07:41] <nicholaspaul> wastrel,  can i do that in a conf somewhere?
[07:41] <me2win> he pinged meh
[07:41] <Drayzee> Hi Everyone
[07:41] <clever`rev> he pinged the whole room
[07:41] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  in the /etc/network/interfaces  or in system > administration > networking
[07:42] <sir_quicken> geese he lagged the room ya mean :p
[07:42] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  set it to the ip of your router
[07:42] <Drayzee> anyone want to answer a few questions about ubuntu?
[07:42] <yggdrasil> wtfs up with #debain
[07:42] <k^^> :)
[07:42] <sir_quicken> k networking question, I can see windows 2000 pc & linux pc between both pc's BUT I cannot login..
[07:42] <clever`rev> ahh
[07:43] <clever`rev> it must default to the current window as a target
[07:43] <nicholaspaul> wastrel, that has gateway set to my router ip
[07:43] <sir_quicken> says username or pass is wrong even though iys right
[07:43] <sir_quicken> its*
[07:43] <idefix> so I guess I'll never be able to play a DVDrom from my DVD rom player which I bought in Germany in the year 2000
[07:43] <k^^> clever`rev: I guess, just thought it would ping the server
[07:43] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  if you do  "route"  at the command line ,  do you see your router address as the "default" ?
[07:43] <clever`rev> that would be /quote ping 123
[07:43] <wastrel> Drayzee:  we won't know unless you ask them.
[07:44] <Drayzee> thanks
[07:44] <sir_quicken> I need help networking.. I can see both pc's but cannot access them
[07:44] <nicholaspaul> wastrel, no its '*'
[07:44] <Drayzee> I'm new to linux, I want to install netscape
[07:44] <Drayzee> It won't let me run the installer
[07:44] <sir_quicken> says its wrong username or pass but the username & pass are correct
[07:44] <sir_quicken> lol
[07:44] <Drayzee> I think because I don't have admin privlidges
[07:44] <sir_quicken> rune firefox
[07:45] <Drayzee> I want netscape
[07:45] <wastrel> ubotu tell drayzee about sudo
[07:45] <sir_quicken> lol cus netscape is a windows thing
[07:45] <idefix> radar1976?
[07:45] <zielony> Hello how can I send whole folder through console based ftp ? put folder/* dont work
[07:45] <idefix> are you still there?
[07:45] <nicholaspaul> Drayzee, the easiest way to install is to use Synaptic. It will grab all the dependancies for you.
[07:45] <HappyFool> !tell Drayzee about sudo
[07:45] <wastrel> Drayzee:  use sudo to get admin privilidges  check the howto link ubotu sent you
[07:45] <Drayzee> ok, thanks
[07:45] <ktogias> zielony, tried mput ?
[07:45] <wastrel> nicholaspaul:  join #flood and show me what route is telling you
[07:45] <sir_quicken> can ne1 help me with networkign security & accessing both machnines?
[07:46] <nicholaspaul> wastrel, k
[07:46] <Drayzee> I own a computer retail store and want to start shipping ubutu on some systems, hope I don't become a pain :-)
[07:46] <Demigod> its netscape still running?
[07:46] <sir_quicken> your better off using firefix its like netscape only better
[07:46] <sir_quicken> firefox*
[07:47] <HappyFool> Drayzee: i'd recommend using standard apps for your customers (e.g., firefox, not netscape); they'll find support more easily that way. For your own use is your own business, of course ;)
[07:47] <sir_quicken> that is what I said :p
[07:47] <Drayzee> Firefox has no mail or newsgroups built in, If I want an os to tell me what to run, I'll pick windows.. That is why I'm trying to use ubutu
[07:47] <JoelOl75> Mozilla is alot like netscape,  a little to heavy IMO
[07:48] <trappist> Drayzee: well said.
[07:48] <zielony> mput codcenter/class2.php? y
[07:48] <zielony> 200 PORT command successful
[07:48] <zielony> 553-Can't open that file: No such file or directory
[07:48] <zielony> 553 Rename/move failure: No such file or directory
[07:48] <zielony> ktogias:
[07:48] <nicholaspaul> wastrel, I just posted
[07:48] <nalioth> zeedo: please don't paste in here, use a pastebin
[07:48] <sir_quicken> firefox owns netscape IE & others
[07:48] <idefix> dammit
[07:48] <sir_quicken> NAYWAY can someoen help me?
[07:48] <Drayzee> I'm not a newb, been at pc's since b4 windows. I want to learn ubutu in a bad way
[07:48] <HappyFool> Drayzee: ubuntu comes with evolution, which is quite a capable e-mail client. Another advantage of using standard (ubuntu-supplied) apps is that security fixes will be made available and easily installable.
[07:48] <nalioth> zielony: pastebins are wonderful to use, please don't paste in here
[07:48] <zielony> k
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> esp. when its a paste that tells us very little. :P
[07:49] <sir_quicken> as have I my first pc was a commadore 64
[07:49] <idefix> radar1976?
[07:49] <idefix> are you there?
[07:49] <nxvl> is there a problem with the ubuntu servers??
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> sir_quicken,  i still have several of those
[07:49] <idefix> is there anyone else who can help me get my DVD station runing?
[07:49] <Drayzee> Take care, and thanks, I'm off to the how to link, Thanks again
[07:49] <Demigod> i dont like ubuntu as a server
[07:49] <ktogias> zielony, try lftp console ftp client... It is much more powerfull and has a command named mirror that does what you want.
[07:49] <sir_quicken> Is there anyone who can help me network a win2k & linux system together
[07:49] <JoelOl75> what DVD problem?  I use MPlayer with no probs on Ubuntu
[07:50] <B_166-ER-X> FATAL: Module uhci not found.   , can someone help ?    uhci is not a package in the repos
[07:50] <Demigod> i preffer to use novell or suse as server
[07:50] <sir_quicken> I am using the samba share
[07:50] <idefix> ok let me download MPlayer then...
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> sir_quicken,  define 'network' :P what networking fetures are you trying to do?
[07:50] <sir_quicken> share files
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> sir_quicken,  ahh.. samba configuration :P
[07:50] <sir_quicken> we can see each other just cant access it
[07:50] <sir_quicken> i am having problem with the login
[07:51] <nxvl> im making apt-get update and im getting 501 error
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> sir_quicken,  for the windows box to access the homes on ubuntu. i DO belive you must run 'sudo smbpasswd -a LinuxUserName' for each linux user.
[07:51] <Demigod> sir_quicken i am having problem with the login<--- graphical loggin?
[07:51] <sir_quicken> my logs say invalid username or pass but ther correct
[07:51] <nxvl> breezy server btw
[07:51] <rem_> Hey .. whatx the syntax in xchat to join automatically serveral channels at start ..
[07:51] <rem_> ?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> sir_quicken,  also by default the home shares are read only.  a quick edit of the samba.conf and restarting samba will fix that.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> rem_,  #channels1,#channels2
[07:52] <sir_quicken> No login period, the linux system accesses win2k system just sasy invalid username or apss
[07:52] <rem_> i tried that it didnt work ..
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> rem_,  it does work. i do it all the time
[07:52] <rem_> it opened a channel #channel1,#channel2
[07:52] <rem_> ok lemme try that again ..
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> rem_,  i am refering to the 'autojoin' server entry. let me double check
[07:52] <sir_quicken> I am using the kde desktop now, I know where 2 set the permissions & it still doesnt work
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> rem_,  in my channels to join i have -->  #ubuntu,#ubuntu+1,#linux,#linuxhelp
[07:54] <idefix> JoelOl75 can you also play DVD's with VLC?
[07:54] <JoelOl75> i think so but never tried it out...
[07:54] <idefix> you can play avi's...
[07:54] <sir_quicken> ok I am logging into root this no access bs getting on my nerves
[07:54] <idefix> why not DVD's?
[07:54] <sir_quicken> you can but you need the codex for it
[07:55] <sir_quicken> codec*
[07:55] <idefix> where do I get this codec?
[07:55] <sir_quicken> I got same error whne running a dvd
[07:55] <Drayzee> sorry to ask again, but I can't seem to find the howto link? Is it to a website or a file in my computer?
[07:55] <sir_quicken> not sure, you can try searching it for linux
[07:55] <sir_quicken> I gotta figurethat out myself
[07:55] <idefix> google dvd linux codec then
[07:55] <sir_quicken> figure out*
[07:56] <sir_quicken> thast what I gunna do
[07:56] <idefix> how many types of movie files are there?
[07:57] <idefix> dozens?
[07:57] <idefix> hundreds?
[07:57] <idefix> but why??
[07:57] <idefix> I wish I could take the red pill
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> avi codecs for different things
[07:58] <sir_quicken> try searching for codec's for the linux program that runs dvd's
[07:58] <blekos> hello ppl
[07:58] <harfooz> idefix, do you want the quick answer for how to get dvd's to play on Ubuntu?
[07:58] <blekos> is it possible to remove the kernel image without np?
[07:58] <GutterPunk> Hello
[07:59] <sir_quicken> I hate the gnome interface :(
[07:59] <GutterPunk> I'm new to ubuntu. I'm trying to install the Xgl server
[07:59] <wastrel> !xgl
[07:59] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[07:59] <GutterPunk> But apt-get can't find the package "compiz" which I need
[07:59] <idefix> harfooz, yes!
[07:59] <harfooz> ok -- hang on....
[07:59] <GutterPunk> thanks :)
[08:00] <sir_quicken> Must I login to root for every little thing? or can I set my account as root access also?
[08:00] <JoelOl75> X running as root = bad
[08:00] <idefix> harfooz, what are you doing?
[08:01] <idefix> great, another dude who is pulling my leg
[08:02] <GutterPunk> Errm I'm using Breezy Badger now... is it easy to upgrade to Dapper or what's the name?
[08:02] <harfooz> idefix, I opened a dialog with you -- are you not seeing it?
[08:02] <HappyFool> !dapper
[08:02] <ubotu> I heard dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[08:02] <idefix> no I only see radar1976
[08:03] <JoelOl75> idefix, try MPlayer, it doesn't support dvd menus, just run the movie, and the config out of the box needs tweaking (alsa for sound, xv for scren) but command line mplayer dvd:// will play the movie
[08:03] <idefix> are you registered?
[08:03] <ricardo_> when i try to install kubuntu-desktop allways occur this error : imposible to optain http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openexr/libopenexr2c2_1.2.2-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:03] <idefix> harfooz, I think you are not registered?
[08:03] <harfooz> how about now?
[08:04] <harfooz> sheesh.
[08:04] <idefix> y4s
[08:04] <idefix> I see you
[08:04] <harfooz> idefix, go here...
[08:04] <harfooz> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[08:04] <naddar> my firefox ask java runtime
[08:04] <ladodos> hi, how configure debian repository?
[08:04] <naddar> can i install this easy?
[08:04] <harfooz> idefix, make sure you have the repos that are described there. Are you familiar with how to edit your sources.list?
[08:05] <rsyncx> Hi, its probably common question , but why i can't install postgres-common package? i am trying to install postgres...
[08:05] <lullabud> !java
[08:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:05] <JoelOl75> mp3 mouseover preview in gnome, anyone know what programs add in this support?
[08:05] <naddar> !javadeb
[08:05] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[08:05] <rsyncx> I have enabled the multierse
[08:05] <idefix> harfooz, well you just open this file ant dype into it, no?
[08:05] <idefix> type*
[08:05] <JoelOl75> mine got broke..
[08:05] <rsyncx> !postgres-common
[08:05] <ubotu> rsyncx: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:05] <rsyncx> !postgresql
[08:05] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rsyncx
[08:05] <ricardo_> when i try to install kubuntu-desktop allways occur this error : imposible to optain http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openexr/libopenexr2c2_1.2.2-3ubuntu1_i386.deb Someone can help me?
[08:05] <h36sa> hi.. is anyone running enlightenment-17? I really like it but the only repository (deb http://soulmachine.net/breezy unstable/) is built in october.. really buggy
[08:06] <h36sa> wondering if anyone knows a better one
[08:06] <harfooz> idefix, yep.
[08:06] <harfooz> I use the repos that are on the web page I sent you, idefix
[08:06] <harfooz> idefix, then follow these instructions to get all the necessary codecs:
[08:06] <[A] ndy80> I'm trying to use "bluepin" utility, but when I run it, it prints ERR and quits. How can I check what kind of error happens?
[08:07] <idefix> the sources.list file is in the /etc/apt directory
[08:07] <harfooz> idefix, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[08:07] <naddar> i downloaded that sun java prog but this is a .bin how i can install that
[08:07] <ricardo_> how can i install kubuntu-desktop?
[08:07] <harfooz> idefix, when that finishes do this: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[08:07] <sanitarium> fix my graphics .. whats the command xorgsetup ?
[08:07] <sanitarium> or what
[08:08] <harfooz> then you can play DVDs with whatever you please ;-)
[08:08] <hacknslash> ricardo: edit sources list
[08:08] <lullabud> sanitarium: dexconfig ?
[08:08] <sanitarium> lullabud, thanx
[08:08] <lullabud> sanitarium: dexconf just writes out a new xorg.conf file against what's already been configured during setup
[08:09] <lullabud> sanitarium: you may need to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:09] <hacknslash> uncomment universe
[08:09] <idefix> harfooz, do I have to type all those sudo apt-get install commands?! :o
[08:09] <sanitarium> lullabud, says command not found
[08:09] <naddar> 4!java
[08:09] <sanitarium> lullabud, thats it
[08:09] <naddar> !java
[08:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:09] <sanitarium> i forget me debian
[08:10] <idefix> there are nine sudo apt-get install commands!
[08:10] <borrega> HOLA
[08:10] <nickrud> idefix: no, you can put all the packages on one line
[08:11] <naddar> fuck how can i install that java pfff
[08:11] <JoelOl75> ide fix, you can use Synaptic and search it out.. libdvdcss2 slipped my mind
[08:11] <borrega> HOLA ALGUIEN QUE ABLE ESPAOL
[08:11] <HappyFool> !es
[08:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:11] <idefix> harfooz, usually I have the idefix_ account, that's why I couldn't talk with you in a dialog window
[08:11] <Gopi> any good TV viewing software other than xawtv and mythtv..... ?? Because in xawtv I am not able to record programs whereas mythtv Iam struglling to install it(I mean its not getting installed)
[08:11] <Deramin> got an interesting message when I started ubuntu today:
[08:11] <Deramin> [configuring network interfaces] 
[08:11] <Deramin> [4294790.438000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting....
[08:11] <Deramin> and then it just continued the boot. But I've been having issues with [configuring network interfaces]  for a while. takes forever when it gets to that stage so I usually just ctrl+c to skip it. could this be what's giving be grief? and what does the error mean?
[08:11] <idefix> but I guess the idefix user has disaapeared
[08:12] <wastrel> Deramin:  restarting probably means the ipw2200 module is restarting.
[08:13] <nickrud> idefix: if you are registered as idefix, that was probably you; /help ghost ;)
[08:13] <Deramin> wastrel: hello again wastrel XD. Figured as much when it continued, but what does the rest of the error mean?
[08:13] <JoelOl75> tvtime is only slightly less terse than xaw
[08:13] <Frnk_> Hi! I have problems changing my terminal keymap, I cant set it to norwegian, now its utf-8 :/
[08:14] <Gopi> anyone any idea on my question please ??
[08:14] <wastrel> Deramin:  the firmware error thing - no idea...
[08:14] <rsyncx> i am trying to do apt-get update, and get this : http://pastebin.com/578832
[08:14] <JoelOl75> Gopi try tvtime
[08:14] <Frnk_> anyone who could assist me? :)
[08:14] <rsyncx> used to be ok, but now it it returns all these errors
[08:15] <nickrud> Frnk_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[08:15] <Gopi> JoelOl75: I tried it.... but no display but just audio alone Iam able to hear...
[08:15] <Frnk_> nickrud: ok. i'll try
[08:15] <Gopi> JoelOl75: And also I am not able to change channels !
[08:15] <nickrud> Frnk_: that's for the terminal console, I'm not sure about it's effect in a gnome-terminal
[08:16] <Gopi> JoelOl75: Cant find any settings in it...
[08:16] <JoelOl75> what card ya using? I had no trouble with bt878 chipset
[08:16] <jerry> hi room
[08:16] <GutterPunk> HappyFool, I'm trying the upgrade tool from the site but at "Modifying the software channels" it behaves funny... It's always saying "Downloading file 19 of 20 blabla" but there's no progress. And it does this over and over again...
[08:16] <Deramin> So no one else has ideas on my firmware error?
[08:16] <Gopi> JoelOl75: I am using Pinnacle PCTV Pro.....
[08:16] <ricardo_> How can i install kubuntu-desktop?
[08:16] <ubuntu_> hi! how do you find out which flight youre running, if its a liveCD?
[08:16] <Frnk_> nickrud: do i need to restart xorg after doing it?
[08:16] <nickrud> Frnk_: no, just close a terminal and start another
[08:16] <pontifex> ubuntu_ does "cat /etc/issue" tell you?
[08:16] <Gopi> JoelOl75: xawtv is working well.... but the only problem is Iam not able to record anything :(
[08:16] <nickrud> ubuntu_: lsb_releas -a
[08:16] <nickrud> ubuntu_: lsb_release -a
[08:17] <HappyFool> GutterPunk: i suggest joining #ubuntu+1 and asking there
[08:17] <GutterPunk> k
[08:17] <enz0_> anyone know how to extract a cpio archive?
[08:17] <hacknslash> rsyncx, i think maybe the archives are offline
[08:17] <JoelOl75> Gopi I never messed with the settings in tvtime... it just worked, autoscanned the channels.. ect... sorry
[08:17] <Frnk_> nickrud: strange it didnt work..
[08:18] <ubuntu_> sorry guys... none were right...
[08:18] <HappyFool> enz0_: have you read 'man cpio' ?
[08:18] <Frnk_> tested in irssi, just got strange letters
[08:18] <Gopi> JoelOl75: What type of system? 64 bit ?
[08:18] <enz0_> I've tried '-i -M -d' but keep getting unexpected end of archive or whatever
[08:18] <ubuntu_> both say dapper and development release and such. but nothing about the exact flight number
[08:18] <fangorious> is there a tool to adjust the orientation of the displayed image on the screent? I have a laptop and there is a one pixel line of solid white at the bottom of my screen.
[08:18] <ubuntu_> cause I suspect this is a bit old...
[08:18] <nickrud> Frnk_: I wasn't sure; also try System-Pref-Keyboard, Layout tab, add button
[08:18] <JoelOl75> Athlon XP with an old hauppage wintv pci card
[08:18] <_Uwo_> hi all: just installed new icon theme - love it - but in the window list and desktop switcher i still see original icons. is it difficult to change this to use the new theme?
[08:18] <Gopi> JoelOl75: And initially it asks options like Europe or Custom scan... which one you selected ?
[08:18] <Frnk_> nickrud: ok, thanks for the help anyway :D
[08:19] <hacknslash> anyone running dapper on a laptop
[08:19] <fangorious> hacknslash: i am
[08:19] <hacknslash> is it ok no probs
[08:19] <nickrud> Frnk_: I've seen this question asked before and not answered, so I took a stab
[08:19] <hacknslash> flight 3 or 4
[08:19] <JoelOl75> custom.... I know if you right click you can set PAL or NTSC in there.... Maybe your prob??
[08:19] <fangorious> hacknslash: depends on your hardware
[08:19] <hacknslash> dell latitude d600
[08:20] <ricardo_> hey someone can help me to install kubuntu?
[08:20] <rsyncx> hacknslash: i want to install postgresql 8, but it doesn't show up in search
[08:20] <Gopi> JoelOl75: When I right click nothing is happening !  :(
[08:20] <nickrud> ricardo_: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <fangorious> hacknslash: I have an Ati Mobility FireGL v5000 in mine which is supported pretty well. I can suspend, hibernate hasn't worked yet
[08:20] <Gopi> JoelOl75: And how do u change channels ?
[08:20] <JoelOl75> ?  I'm not on that computer now so i can't test it out... Its been awhile
[08:20] <jakl> hi, im trying to update ubuntu with apt-get update but i get an error when it tries to download certain sources, it stays stuck at 99% and can't finish...is it possible i don't have the good source adresses or something?
[08:20] <fangorious> hacknslash: dbus doesn't give me desktop icons for hard drive partitions mounted under /media
[08:21] <rsyncx> anyone running postgresql 8? is there package in the repository?
[08:21] <Gopi> JoelOl75: ok np... and do u use any other applications ?
[08:21] <hacknslash> fangorious, wireless ok?
[08:21] <fangorious> hacknslash: overall it works pretty well for me, but I can't vouch for your laptop. try posting in the dapper forum on ubuntuforums.org
[08:21] <nickrud> jakl: possibly; could you put /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:21] <ricardo_> nickrud: i do it with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but allways present this error, imposible to optain http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openexr/libopenexr2c2_1.2.2-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:21] <fangorious> hacknslash: ipw2200, works great. network-manager doesn't do vpn/wpa yet though
[08:21] <harfooz> idefix -- sorry I had someone here in the office. But yes, you do need to install those files to be sure that you can play anything that comes along (dvd or on the web).
[08:22] <JoelOl75> I'm trying to get Myth up with a Hauppagge PVR-500 card and a aTI remote wonder....  Not much luck with that :!
[08:22] <fangorious> hacknslash: there's an unofficial deb to add vpnc to network-manager, haven't tried it. wpasupplicant worked fine when I tried it
[08:22] <jakl> well i took the sources from here; http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:23] <harfooz> idefix, you can of course combine *all* those into one apt-get install command like this:
[08:23] <bungle_> !bluetooth
[08:23] <ubotu> bluetooth is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[08:23] <jakl> its stuck while getting the multiverse ackage
[08:23] <harfooz> apt-get install pkgname1 pckname2 blah blah blah
[08:23] <hacknslash> think i'll do a back up then chance it
[08:23] <bungle_> !irda
[08:23] <ubotu> bungle_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:23] <nicholaspaul> Q: I have a script i want to run at startup... where do i call it from?
[08:23] <Gopi> JoelOl75: ok
[08:23] <nickrud> ricardo_: strange, I could get it with wget
[08:24] <hacknslash> ricardo_, have you edited the sources list ?
[08:24] <Syco54645> what do i need to install for the wxwidgits?
[08:24] <nickrud> jakl: not a very good source
[08:24] <nickrud> !sources
[08:24] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:24] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: /etc/init.d/rcS would work. Or you could put it in /etc/init.d and symlink to it from /etc/rc?.d to mix it in with the rest of the services
[08:25] <jakl> nickrud: thanks
[08:25] <nicholaspaul> fangorious, you mean just put the script in the direcotry /etc/init.d ?
[08:25] <Creeture> Have any of you ever seen a cron daemon that is meant for a distributed environment? i.e. cron runs as root on a bunch of machines reading a common crontab file?
[08:26] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: a common place to put a needed script is to call it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[08:27] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: ^^ is easiest
[08:27] <trappist> I'm pretty sure the "right" way to do it is mkdir /etc/rc.boot and drop your script(s) in there
[08:27] <bSON> hi
[08:27] <nicholaspaul> so many ways to skin a cat...
[08:27] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: fangorious's & trappists are best
[08:27] <bSON> how can you tell the ubuntu eclipse to use another jre than gij?
[08:27] <trappist> /etc/init.d/rcS:[ -d /etc/rc.boot ]  && run-parts /etc/rc.boot
[08:28] <nickrud> trappist: what sources /etc/rc.boot?
[08:28] <nickrud> too quick, trappist ;)
[08:28] <Creeture> bSON: man update-alternatives
[08:29] <MasterC> my GRUB is loading VERY slow (20 seconds or so) on a fast machine
[08:29] <wastrel> freenx isn't working :p
[08:29] <MasterC> this was always so on this machine... :-/
[08:29] <nickrud> trappist: hm, only problem with that is not everything needed for a particular script is sure to be running at that point
[08:29] <MasterC> with any OS
[08:29] <nicholaspaul> trappist, nickrud i'll try making that directory, rc.boot. See whath appens :)
[08:29] <marc_> HELP! When I boot, it freezes at it tries to synchronize the clock.  I now am forced to boot in "recovery mode" and then exit.   What should I do?
[08:30] <nicholaspaul> can i put it somewhere so its the last thing to run?
[08:30] <rsyncx> why is archive offline
[08:30] <rsyncx> is
[08:30] <Syco54645> what is the command to make a debian file from source?  i have forgotten what it was.
[08:30] <MasterC> I have a P4 3.0 HT with 512 MB RAM, should be fast enough for GRUB ;)
[08:31] <MasterC> no errors, but It takes 20 and more seconds to load...
[08:31] <MasterC> should be done in max. 1 second
[08:31] <nicholaspaul> Syco54645, you thinking 'sudo dpkg -i filename.deb' ?
[08:31] <MasterC> any idea?
[08:31] <marc_> HELP! When I boot, it freezes as it tries to synchronize the clock.  I now am forced to boot in "recovery mode" and then exit.   What should I do?  Is there a way to remove this step in the boot?
[08:31] <nicholaspaul> Syco54645, no.. sorry! Forget i said that...
[08:31] <Syco54645> nicholaspaul: no i am compiling sources.  i just finished the make.  what is the command to run now to make the deb file
[08:31] <trappist> nickrud: good point.  I don't know where in the boot process rc.boot gets sourced.
[08:32] <Syco54645> nicholaspaul: thats ok.  i already knew what that did
[08:32] <fangorious> trappist: nickrud rcS runs before /etc/rc?.d, right?
[08:32] <nicholaspaul> Syco54645,  just trying to help where /if I can :)
[08:32] <JoelOl75> marc: does hitting ctrl-c break past it or is it a hard lock
[08:32] <trappist> fangorious: don't know
[08:32] <Syco54645> nicholaspaul: dont worry about it, no harm done
[08:32] <nicholaspaul> thx for being gracious Syco54645
[08:32] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: put a script in /etc/init.d/, and sudo update-rc.d defaults 99
[08:32] <trappist> fangorious: actually yes, according to inittab
[08:33] <Creeture> Syco54645: Do you have the appropriate debian/ directory and structure in the source directory or is this something that didn't have a package already?
[08:33] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: to set order, you put the script in /etc/init.d, then create a symlink in the runlevel you want it to run it
[08:33] <nicholaspaul> fangorious,  is tha tthe same as nickrud's answer?
[08:33] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: um sudo update-alternatives <scriptname> defaults 99
[08:33] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: yes, pretty much
[08:33] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: for example, ln -s /etc/init.d/myscript /etc/rc2.d/S99myscript
[08:33] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: that will have myscript run at '99' in runlevel two
[08:34] <Syco54645> Creeture: it is something that didnt already have a package.  it is the program comical and i just built it from source
[08:34] <fangorious> you can look in /etc/rc2.d to see what order things start, and pick where you want yours to run
[08:34] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: using K99myscript instead of S99myscript will have myscript stopped at 99 instead of started
[08:34] <nickrud> typo, typos, typos. nicholaspaul: sudo update-rc.d  <scriptname> defaults 99 (I need to read before enter on actual commands )
[08:34] <Creeture> Syco54645: Look into the app called "checkinstall". Instead of running make install, run checkinstall and it'll do all of that for you.
[08:34] <idefix> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:34] <idefix> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:34] <idefix> is only available from another source
[08:34] <idefix> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[08:34] <idefix>  is this a problem??
[08:34] <deefzi> my opera refuses to show flash-videos when i run it through alsa-oss, why? if i start opera normally, everything runs smoothly
[08:35] <Syco54645> Creeture: that is it.  i couldnt remember.  thanks
[08:35] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: to go that route, though. I think you're script needs to support being called with 'start' or 'stop' as a command line parameter
[08:35] <nickrud> idefix: normal, since it's not in the repos
[08:36] <nicholaspaul> can i just add it to 'Sessions', fangorious ?
[08:36] <rsyncx> I can't see postgresql-8.0 package, is there a reason?
[08:36] <nickrud> idefix: normal, since It's not in the repos
[08:36] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: that will run it when you log in, rather than when the system boots
[08:36] <nickrud> !w3codecs
[08:36] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, nickrud
[08:36] <rsyncx> i can't install it, either
[08:36] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[08:36] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:36] <sprizz> i have trouble connecting to services with naim
[08:36] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: and only when you log into gnome, at that
[08:36] <nicholaspaul> fangorious,  the script just sets up network interface settings...
[08:36] <idefix> nickrud, now what? how do I play my DVD's?
[08:36] <nickrud> !libdvdcss
[08:36] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[08:37] <nicholaspaul> fangorious, oooohhhh so no good when logging into kde / fluxbox? hmmm
[08:37] <rsyncx> !postgresql
[08:37] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rsyncx
[08:37] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: is it something that the existing networking support can't handle?
[08:37] <wastrel> anyone know why freenx server isn't letting me connect?
[08:38] <nicholaspaul> fangorious,  not really, but i've been having problems with Networking. My interface seems alot happier if I use the command line. (airport + Dapper..)
[08:38] <nickrud> idefix: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats will get you nearly everything for running non-free media, without putting in stray sources
[08:40] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: just so I know I'm not giving you bad info, what were you referring to by 'Sessions'. I took it to mean the app that loads from going to System->Preferences->Sessions in Gnome
[08:41] <nicholaspaul> fangorious,  yea, thats exactly what I meant. I"m finding tho that I'm learning way more about how to configure my system by using command lines and scripts - besides, its geekily-good fun!!
[08:42] <fangorious> :)
[08:42] <Raph> Good evening everyone
[08:42] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: setting something there will only affect logging into gnome
[08:42] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: putting the network command into /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh will work, since it's run after networking is set up
[08:42] <fangorious> evenin'
[08:42] <nicholaspaul> fangorious,  ahh gotcha. (nickrud)
[08:42] <sprizz> I am having trouble connecting to services with naim, can anyone help?
[08:43] <ara> is there an ubuntu dev channel ?
[08:43] <jakl> how/where can i change the buffer size of the terminal window in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[08:43] <nicholaspaul> nickrud, i put it in /etc/init.d and then ran 'sudo update-rc.d filename defaults 99
[08:43] <nicholaspaul> nickrud, restarting to see if it stuck :)
[08:43] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: if the script is good, it should work
[08:44] <rsyncx> hi when archive will be back up?
[08:44] <nickrud> ara: #ubuntu-devel
[08:44] <soundray> jakl, edit current profile and go to scrolling.
[08:44] <jakl> thanks
[08:44] <rsyncx> i am trying to install postgresql-8.0 and a n00b to ubuntu, but i can't seem to see it in list of available packages
[08:45] <rsyncx> there is howto says that it should be there
[08:45] <rsyncx> am i missing something?
[08:45] <nicholaspaul> nickrud, oooo the script is soooo good ;-)
[08:45] <nicholaspaul> :S
[08:45] <Raph> I am having problem setting up two screens on a nvidia card. I went through a lot of walkthrough and guide, and I think the solution might be pretty simple. Would anyone have a few minutes to help ?
[08:45] <sprizz> rsyncx: did you enable repositories
[08:45] <rsyncx> yes
[08:45] <rsyncx> but archive doesn't respone
[08:45] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: lol
[08:45] <rsyncx> srespond
[08:45] <rsyncx> sprizz, yeah archive seems dead
[08:45] <sprizz> hmm
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[08:46] <rsyncx> kick!
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> oh dear.
[08:46] <sprizz> i honestly have no idea then, just though i'd try to help
[08:46] <nickrud> oh, so close to ops
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[08:46] <nickrud> !ops
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[08:46] <nicholaspaul> S-pain in the ass
[08:46] <nickrud> he's gone
[08:47] <MasterC> how can I set the bootflag for a partition AFTER the installation?
[08:47] <rsyncx> anyone elese has problem accessing archive?
[08:47] <Raph> boot up with a CD and use fdisk
[08:47] <soundray> MasterC: with any partitioner, e.g. cfdisk.
[08:47] <Raph> I think you can swith boot flag with 'a'
[08:47] <MasterC> thank you
[08:48] <fangorious> MasterC: if grub at least comes up, you can add the 'setactive' command and then use fdisk or parted to make it permanent
[08:48] <skazi> Hello! Wanted to ask after trying to install all kinds of p2p share fiiles for linux on ubuntu nothing seems to work, wanted to ask if there is any Ubuntu known working app p2p file share program? :O
[08:48] <rsyncx> can anyone try apt-get update
[08:48] <Belgain> quick question... i need to make sure that a certain module gets loaded with extra parameters - how can i make sure this happens at boot time?
[08:48] <rsyncx> it seems to time out on me
[08:48] <salah_> hi, can i download mplayer by synaptic?
[08:48] <Raph> Azureus = torrent over java
[08:48] <soundray> fangorious: is the bootable flag actually still useful for anything?
[08:49] <Seveas> !tell salah_ about mplayer
[08:49] <fangorious> soundray: yes, dual-boot
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> nickrud, fangorious trappist IT WORKS IT WORKS IT WORKS!
[08:49] <Belgain> i.e. i need "modprobe ehci_hcd log2_irq_thresh=4" rather than just "modprobe ehci_hcd"...
[08:49] <MasterC> how can I apply the changes in cfdisk?
[08:49] <sprizz> rsyncx, i updated a few minutes ago, seemed fine
[08:49] <sprizz> rsyncx: i can try again
[08:49] <salah_> Actually I have failedto do that . Can Idownload fromsynaptic??
[08:49] <wastrel> i followed the wiki's freenx howto, but can't connect to the server - i set the log level to warnings, but the log is still empty - any ideas to troubleshoot this?
[08:49] <nickrud> nicholaspaul: and, you've learned how ubuntu starts nearly *everything*
[08:50] <soundray> fangorious: does it make a difference if you are dual-booting with grub?
[08:50] <rsyncx> i get : 99% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (206.75.218.52)] 
[08:50] <Raph> I would need some help with twinview : Gnome recognises it as a double side screen but my second screen just won't turn on. Anyone could give me a hand ?
[08:50] <fangorious> soundray: yes, mostly for Windows
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> nickrud, fangorious trappist thx for your help guys. I'm so happy that i finally got wifi working at startup - airport extreme + dapper too.. :)
[08:50] <rsyncx> and it just hangs
[08:50] <sprizz> rxyncx: yeah worked find for me
[08:50] <fangorious> nicholaspaul: glad to help
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> thanks to wastrel  too. I feel a group hug coming on..!! heheh
[08:50] <nickrud> rsyncx: try removing ca. everywhere it exists in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <soundray> fangorious: I C, thanks
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> yea nickrud. Love it!
[08:50] <wastrel> we <3 u
[08:50] <rsyncx> nickrud, thanks!
[08:50] <skazi> Hello! Wanted to ask after trying to install all kinds of p2p share fiiles for linux on ubuntu nothing seems to work, wanted to ask if there is any Ubuntu known working app p2p file share program? :O
[08:51] <btdown> amule?
[08:51] <Raph> skazi, there is Azureus for torrent
[08:51] <me2win> limewire?
[08:51] <skazi> limewire don't work
[08:51] <enz0_> how do you register an app in Evolution to work with a specific type of extension (xpdf for .pdf files for example)?
[08:51] <nickrud> gtk-gnutella, amule, mldonkey, more?
[08:51] <skazi> Raph, where do i get ut ?
[08:51] <nicholaspaul> gotta run - see ya'll!
[08:52] <soundray> !azureus
[08:52] <ubotu> azureus is, like, totally, a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:52] <LjL> skazi: amule, ktorrent, bittorrent-gui, mldonkey, gift and others are included in the repositories
[08:52] <Raph> skazi, just google Azureus you can't miss it
[08:52] <fangorious> azureus.sf.net
[08:52] <salah_> does anyone knows how can i download mplayer by synaptic?
[08:52] <nickrud> enz0_: evo uses the normal file associations that gnome uses; right click a pdf and select properties -> open with tab
[08:52] <skazi> Thanks!
[08:52] <nickrud> !mplayer
[08:52] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:53] <Raph> !twinview
[08:53] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Raph
[08:53] <Raph> hmm had to try
[08:53] <Raph> !mittens
[08:53] <ubotu> Raph: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:53] <soundray> salah_, when you get a pm from ubotu, it is always worth reading.
[08:53] <LjL> !rell raph about msg the bot
[08:53] <ubotu> LjL: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:53] <LjL> !tell raph about msg the bot
[08:53] <bit_seqz> !Mittens
[08:53] <ubotu> bit_seqz: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:54] <bit_seqz> !Mittens!
[08:54] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bit_seqz
[08:54] <LjL> !bot
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[08:54] <Gnonthgol> !Mittens
[08:54] <bimberi> !msgthebot
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[08:54] <fangorious> bit_seqz: the cc.com site has a searchable archive of all the keywords ubotu responds to
[08:55] <skazi> what about APPLON?? isn;t it the best?
[08:55] <LjL> you can also type "listvals <keywords>" in a private message with ubotu
[08:55] <Raph> Anyone can tell how to tell Xorg that I have two monitors ?
[08:55] <wastrel> i installed freenx based on the wiki howto but i can't connect to the server - the nxserver log is empty - any ideas for troubleshooting?
[08:56] <fangorious> skazi: it's ok, i only ever used it for kazaa
[08:56] <skazi> heh
[08:56] <skazi> yeah, couse a kazaa util is not avalable for linux only threw wine and u need to add some dll's and shit
[08:56] <fangorious> skazi, azureus is all i ever use any more
[08:57] <LjL> hm?
[08:57] <LjL> there *is* clients for kazaa on linux afaik
[08:57] <bjornkri> !is
[08:57] <ubotu> I heard is is the country code for iceland
[08:57] <bjornkri> indeed
[08:57] <LjL> :)
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[08:58] <LjL> !ops
[08:58] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[08:58] <Seveas> LjL, way ahead of you
[08:59] <LjL> Seveas: i guess :)
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> can hoary handle 5.1 sound with no extra configuration?
[08:59] <DistroWatch> any guide for securying the ubuntu box ?
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> DistroWatch : it is secure
[09:00] <LjL> DistroWatch: ubuntu is relatively secure by default, as it's got very few services running
[09:00] <DistroWatch> lsuactiafner :) no it aint enough
[09:00] <Raph> Any Xorg guru around ?
[09:00] <me2win> ask your question, maybe somebody can help
[09:00] <lsuactiafner> if you want a locked down server run a minimal system with grsecurity and almost no services
[09:00] <DistroWatch> lsuactiafner soon you run web server an mail servers and stuff aint that secure anymore
[09:00] <soundray> DistroWatch: I guess that a lot of what is said in "Securing Debian" applies. Cf. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/
[09:00] <idefix> so instead of executing apt-get commands you could also type stuff in the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:01] <LjL> yeah i was just going to type !hardened, ubotu has that guide
[09:01] <DistroWatch> soundray cheers
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> DistroWatch : then go read up if you current version of server xyz is secure
[09:01] <LjL> idefix: not really
[09:01] <LjL> idefix: /etc/apt/sources.list is the place there the APT system *looks* for its configuration
[09:01] <fangorious> idefix: sources.list just tells apt-get where to look
[09:01] <nalioth> aliens, huh. no wonder.
[09:02] <soundray> DistroWatch: and always remember to buckle up ;)
[09:02] <lsuactiafner> can hoary handle 5.1 sound with no extra configuration? what needs to be done after i plug my new speakers in?
[09:03] <DistroWatch> soundray  :) try to
[09:03] <Raph> using lspci I see my AGP card on PCI:01:00:00 but should I define it as AGP:01:00:00 in xorg.conf (my second monitor don't want to turn on as twinview seems to be configured correctly)
[09:03] <fangorious> lsuactiafner: have you tried posting in the hardware support: sound & video forum on ubuntuforums.org?
[09:04] <lsuactiafner> fangorious : no i'm gettin speakers friday and want to know if its going to be a problem for me
[09:04] <fangorious> Raph, I would set it as PCI:01:00:00
[09:04] <progrock> Is there any software for playing TV with an ATI AIW card?
[09:04] <lsuactiafner> there should be several ppl here with 5.1 sounds
[09:04] <Raph> fangorious, ok. Problem is not coming from that line then
[09:05] <fangorious> progrock: have you tried tvtim?
[09:05] <Hairulfr> Hi all
[09:05] <progrock> fangorious, nope... ws just inquiring.. since im about to install ubuntu on my desktop
[09:06] <fangorious> progrock: er, tvtime. i'm not claiming it will work with the AiW, but it's what I would start with
[09:06] <kimo> I installed using debootstrap. Now my kernel can't mount my LVM / partition. Any guru wanna help with this please ?
[09:07] <progrock> fangorious, ok, thanks.. .was hoping someoen could point me in a direction.. whether it be the right one or not, lol
[09:08] <bobbyd> hi
[09:09] <fangorious> progrock: do you know what chipset it uses?
[09:09] <bobbyd> I have a source in the form: http://www.estudiolivre.org/videos/lives/ubuntu/breezy/ binary-i386/ how do i add that to sources.list ?
[09:09] <Hairulfr> I'm currently downloading ubuntu for PPC, and I'd like to know wether it configures the Yaboot/bootstrap partition itself - and if it contains a paritioner etc, so I won't have to find a Osx install? Also - updating to KDE 3.5, is it possible through a Yast type tool?
[09:09] <soundray> lsuactiafner: no experience here, but since nobody else is answering: I would expect surround sound to work out of the box on a supported card.
[09:09] <bobbyd> it's from this page: http://lives.sourceforge.net/index.php?do=downloads
[09:09] <Hairulfr> I.e Does it install the bootloader automatically like yellow dog
[09:09] <progrock> fangorious, ummi can probably find out... its the AIW x600
[09:10] <moonman> k
[09:10] <soundray> lsuactiafner: do you not see sliders for the individual speakers in alsamixer?
[09:11] <fangorious> progrock: I know the brooktree chipsets tend to be well supported. but i haven't used a tv tuner in a long time
[09:11] <soundray> Hairulfr: I'm pretty sure it does the yaboot setup for you. On kde, see ubotu:
[09:11] <soundray> !kde3.5
[09:11] <ubotu> (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[09:11] <soundray> !kde3.5.1
[09:11] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5.1, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[09:11] <trappist> lsuactiafner.  so evil.
[09:11] <Hairulfr> soundray: Thanks a lot! figuring out the bootloader on the mac is hell
[09:11] <progrock> fangorious, true.. yeah.. to be honest im not to optimistic, lol.... but it would make it so i could get rid of windows... which would be amazing
[09:12] <chmod775> how do I find the exact match in fgrep
[09:12] <fangorious> well good luck. ubuntuforums.org is a good resource
[09:12] <chmod775> suppose I am search for a keyword in a file called abc
[09:12] <trappist> chmod775: '^string$'
[09:12] <chmod775> fgrep test -e abc
[09:12] <soundray> trappist: am I safer ignoring him?
[09:12] <jerry> excuse me but does any one here have a dell a940?
[09:13] <chmod775> trappist, u mean fgrep test -e '^abc$'
[09:13] <progrock> Lol.. i jsut put a DBAN disk in, thinking it was my ubuntu disk... damn i need a pen that can write on cds, lol
[09:13] <trappist> chmod775: sure
[09:14] <fangorious> chmod775: using the ^ and $ will make it look for a line that is literally just "abc"
[09:14] <chmod775> it's giving me no such file or direc
[09:14] <fangorious> chmod775: ^ matches the start of a line, and $ matches the end
[09:14] <chmod775> I just want the keyword abc from the line
[09:14] <trappist> chmod775: well, so far it sounds like you want egrep, as in egrep '^abc$' test.
[09:15] <trappist> chmod775: oh you don't mean you want to match a line that contains only 'abc'
[09:15] <master_of_master> hi, are there any qt 4.1 packages for breezy?
[09:15] <jerry> dell a940 any one?
[09:15] <chmod775> Yes I have a line and in that line it has a keyword abc
[09:15] <chmod775> Now I want to display only that keyword
[09:15] <trappist> chmod775: -o
[09:16] <chmod775> There may be several lines in that
[09:16] <chmod775> dude not working dude -o
[09:16] <james__> greets
[09:17] <trappist> chmod775: trappist@monk:~$ egrep -o 'abc' test
[09:17] <trappist> abc
[09:17] <chmod775> k
[09:17] <trappist> chmod775: where test contains one line, acbdefg
[09:17] <bubba> hello, i would like to install isa pretty old soundcard with Opti 82C924 chipset. But dont know how. I already tried to install modules from /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/isa/opti9xx but it failed :(.
[09:17] <trappist> chmod775: all this info is in the grep man page.
[09:17] <chmod775> cool
[09:17] <chmod775> I was checking the fgrep man page
[09:17] <_james> brb
[09:17] <_james> apparently i cant have my own name..
[09:17] <_james> heh
[09:19] <progrock> if im running dual boot.. think i should make a seperate boot partition?
[09:20] <soundray> progrock: I can't see any specific advantage of having a separate boot partition in a dual-boot context.
[09:20] <skazi> hmm...where can I find a kazaa clone for linux?
[09:20] <skazi> hmm...where can I find a kazaa for linux?
[09:20] <fangorious> skazi: apollon
[09:20] <progrock> soundray, thanks.. makes sense... i set one up on my laptop, but its not dual boot.. and the whole file system is encrypted.. which i guess is why i need the sperate non encrypted boot
[09:21] <skazi> apllon has a problem...
[09:21] <hackel> Erg, how does update-manager determine when a restart is "required"?  I'm installing all kinds of non-kernel packages that I would -never- restart for in Debian and it's asking me to.  It's very annoying to feel like I'm using Windows!
[09:21] <fangorious> yeah, it does kazaa
[09:21] <skazi> I know but it has A problem connection
[09:21] <skazi> I know but it has A problem connecting
[09:21] <skazi> QGDict::hashKeyString: Invalid null key
[09:22] <skazi> anything else besides apollon?
[09:22] <fangorious> hackel: i think it just errs on the safe side when stuff like dbus.
[09:22] <colm> hackel, i'm suspecting you're using dapper?
[09:22] <progrock> Umm, is there any good bittorrent clients other then azureus?... azureus is acting real funny (maybe jsut becaus ei dontknow how to correctly use it).. but i get a lot of shutdown errors, and lots of stuff disappears and reappears randomly
[09:22] <Eshestun> in order to compile a program that i downloaded (wine) it says i have to navigate to the dir.. soo since im new to linux i did a little reading and i found cd is the command...   i know the dir is filesystem/usr/bin but i cant seem to navigate to that dir in the terminal... can anyone help?
[09:22] <hackel> colm:  Yes.
[09:22] <progrock> Eshestun, cd /usr/bin
[09:22] <hackel> fangorious:  Ahh, yes for dbus I would think it should pop up and tell you to restart your x server perhaps but not the whole machine.
[09:23] <Eshestun> hmm thnx
[09:23] <lsuactiafner> can hoary handle 5.1 sound easily with no extra configuration? what needs to be done after i plug my new speakers in?
[09:23] <soundray> hackel, I noticed this feature of upgrade-manager in dapper. Does it do it in breezy, too?
[09:23] <doro> so is there an app to run mp3s?
[09:23] <abhinav> pvm not working on ubuntu.any idea?
[09:23] <anti_social> hi people
[09:23] <Eshestun> and when i type that in it says no such dir exsist :S
[09:23] <abhinav> Pl. help me out
[09:23] <hackel> soundray:  I don't remember now. :)
[09:23] <soundray> lsuactiafner: are you ignoring me?
[09:23] <fangorious> hackel: restarting X wouldn't restart dbus I wouldn't think. and restarting dbus has a tendency to kill some notification area apps
[09:24] <progrock> Oh, one f my techers brought up "cross over office"... but i cant find much information about it... can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:24] <anti_social> have anyone had any problem on detecting EPSON CX 3500 or similars using Dapper Drake Flight 4? Should anyone help me to solve this?
[09:24] <skazi> anything else besides apollon?
[09:24] <Eshestun> cd usr/bin dosent work.. it says dir dosent exsist... i know it does because im looking at it -_-
[09:24] <bubba> hmmm nobody knows :(
[09:24] <fangorious> progrock: just google codeweavers
[09:24] <hackel> fangorious:  Right but dpkg can restart dbus and then tell you to restart X to get your notification area apps working again.
[09:24] <fangorious> progrock: OpenOffice probably handles most of what you would need, though
[09:24] <progrock> thanks
[09:24] <lsuactiafner> soundray : no, didnt see my nick used anywhere
[09:24] <abhinav> not able to add hosts on pvm.Pl help.Anyone?
[09:24] <fangorious> hackel: true. i don't think it does right now though
[09:24] <lcore> Eshestun,  try "cd /usr/bin"
[09:25] <lsuactiafner> oh i saw now
[09:25] <bubba> i plug the isa sound card to the isa slot, but i cannot detect it :(
[09:25] <progrock> fangorious, yeah i figured.... but i have the teachers that want MSoffice docs only... and if im not mistaken corssover office will create documents closer to that
[09:25] <Eshestun> ty very much  lcore... that worked.... i think i got the hang of this now :)
[09:25] <Eshestun> i suck at syntax lol
[09:26] <Angel_Dex> how do i setup openduke? i cant seem to find its folder to put the .grp file in
[09:26] <Protocol1> you can use openoffice too
[09:26] <lcore> Eshestun, np. The root filesystem is that first "/". "cd usr/bin" would change to current_dir/usr/bin.
[09:26] <fangorious> progrock: crossover will run MS Office. but OpenOffice can create MS Office docs. I've never have anyone know that I created a .doc with OpenOffice rather than Word
[09:26] <anacaona> hello hello
[09:27] <wastrel> the freenx package doesn't set up a working server - any ideas how to get it fixed?
[09:27] <fangorious> openduke? does it opensuck?
[09:27] <abhinav> no one has any idea on pvm
[09:27] <anti_social>  have anyone had any problem on detecting EPSON CX 3500 or similars using Dapper Drake Flight 4? Should anyone help me to solve this?
[09:27] <soundray> hackel, I don't feel as bad as you do about the restart feature. First of all, it doesn't *demand* restarting like MS Win does. Second, it probably makes sense to restart an upgraded machine for non-power ubuntu users (ie. not you).
[09:27] <anacaona> is there any way to restart the font server without restarting x?
[09:27] <anacaona> just installed new fonts.
[09:27] <progrock> oh..crossover office is basically like wine + office... would it jsut make more sense to use VMWare which i already have?
[09:28] <Douglas> !wireless
[09:28] <ubotu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:28] <majes> Hello
[09:28] <soundray> progrock: as far as using MS Office makes sense at all, yes.
[09:28] <CarinArr> i wouldn't say it's like wine + office really..
[09:28] <fangorious> progrock: if you're more comfortable using vmware, go with that. crossover is exactly [tweaked/customised]  wine + office
[09:28] <progrock> soundray, hahaha, very very good point
[09:28] <hackel> soundray:  I suppose.  But the restart prompt is almost identical to that in XP which lets you chose to restart Now or Later.  At least this one doesn't pop back up every 15 minutes. :)
[09:28] <lcore> wastrel,  http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5755&page=2 - might help
[09:28] <CarinArr> the software it allows you to use is a lot more interesting than ms office;)
[09:29] <hackel> I just try very hard to teach linux users that restarting is never a means of solving a problem with a good operating system. :)
[09:29] <CarinArr> now i wish they could fix photoshop so it worked properly when drawing
[09:29] <majes> hi, How can I assign permission 777 automatically in a folder (It's for apache2)?
[09:29] <progrock> CarinArr, you using potochop with crossover?... ive used it in VMWare... and it seems practically perfect... runs very good on my system
[09:29] <soundray> hackel: well, this behavior of dapper doesn't interfere with the point or the delivery of your very valid teaching message. Or does it?
[09:29] <Angel_Dex> how do i setup openduke? i cant seem to find its folder to put the .grp file in
[09:30] <progrock> photoshop*
[09:30] <VNA9216> hackel:  true..  but even linux cant recover from everything yet without reboot ;)
[09:30] <soundray> hackel: anyway, if I find out how to disable the message I'll let you know...
[09:31] <moonman> does breezy come with apache installed?
[09:31] <hackel> soundray:  I'm not saying it's a bad feature, it's definitely good for new users as you say.  I just wonder if it isn't going a bit overboard.
[09:32] <Douglas> j,
[09:32] <Douglas> hm
[09:32] <Douglas> YO
[09:32] <Douglas> HELp?
[09:32] <progrock> moonman, i dont think so.. but its extremely easy to install.. ir i think just "sudo apt-get install apache"
[09:32] <Douglas> progrock
[09:32] <sbalneav> Douglas: just ask your question
[09:32] <Douglas> QUICK QUESTION?
[09:32] <Douglas> kl
[09:33] <Douglas> I have D-Link DWL-G510
[09:33] <progrock> Douglas, if i can help i will
[09:33] <Douglas> Wireless PCI
[09:33] <Douglas> What do I need to do to make the drivers for it install?
[09:33] <moonman> progrock, yeah, thats what i figured, im goign to have a server up soon
[09:33] <moonman> :P
[09:33] <Douglas> ..
[09:33] <Douglas> Any idea?
[09:34] <X-peTer> douglas: no linux drivers? ndiswrapper?
[09:34] <Douglas> uhm
[09:34] <Douglas> I don't know..
[09:34] <progrock> moonman, theres a forum topic on it in the how-to forum.. that wll also tell you how to set it up with php and mysql.. etc.
[09:34] <Douglas> Just put ubuntu on there yesterday.
[09:34] <sbalneav> Douglas: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81461.html
[09:34] <soundray> Douglas: you probably need the madwifi Atheros driver.
[09:34] <Douglas> Any idea what to do?
[09:34] <Douglas> kk
[09:34] <moonman> progrock, ill check it out, thanks
[09:34] <progrock> Douglas, read the forums.. they are very useful
[09:35] <progrock> moonman,  np.. ive been meaning to install it.. but i'm kinda worried about how low my battery life will be on the laptop.. its horrible as is
[09:35] <soundray> Douglas: if you can, use madwifi rather than ndiswrapper. Also see ubotu below:
[09:35] <soundray> !forums 38972
[09:35] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 38972 is: Atheros AR5212 Madwifi HowTo - Ubuntu Forums
[09:36] <Douglas> so
[09:36] <salah> hi
[09:36] <Douglas> that should just do it
[09:36] <Douglas> make driver swork?
[09:36] <Douglas> Like, make card word?
[09:36] <salah>  wget http://ftp5.mplayerhq.hu/mplayer/Skin/Blue-1.4.tar.bz2  this is not opening
[09:36] <Douglas> Anmyway, bbl.
[09:36] <soundray> Douglas: there's no guarantee. You can only try.
[09:36] <salah> It shows not found
[09:36] <pianoboy3333>  what cross compilers can I use for compiling a windows version of gtypist?
[09:36] <lsuactiafner> salah : #mplayer
[09:36] <fangorious> soundray: do, or do not
[09:36] <salah> yah
[09:36] <progrock> salah, if its not opening, id imagine the website is down
[09:37] <salah> how can I do it plz
[09:37] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, your g++ will do it man g++ for options :)
[09:37] <soundray> fangorious: ...there is no try. Are you Mr Miyagi? Or was it Yoda who said it?
[09:37] <hackel> salah:  Why are you asking us about files stored on some other random webserver?
[09:37] <fangorious> yoda
[09:37] <sprizz> is there a command-line login for ubuntu?
[09:37] <theine> salah, please install mplayer from the multiverse repository
[09:37] <hackel> sprizz:  lol, press ctrl-alt-f1
[09:37] <pianoboy3333> ompaul: gcc too? gtypist is a c program I believe
[09:37] <Rawplayer> re
[09:37] <ompaul> pianoboy3333, yes
[09:38] <salah> Please tell me how can I do that
[09:38] <theine> salah, go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:38] <ompaul> !tell salah about universe
[09:38] <salah> I hv been trying for 4 da
[09:38] <ThePhur> how do i get g++ set back up in breezy..whenever i compile a .cpp it throws a bunch of errors..i know my source code is right
[09:38] <ompaul> salah, the bot send you a message
[09:38] <theine> salah, sorry, also to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[09:38] <whoever> can someone give me some quick tutorial to establish my connection to the internet in ubuntu bash? i've got ati radeon x600 and i need to download and reinstall new drivers or i'll never fix that xserver thing.
[09:39] <soundray> fangorious: that wisdom applies to exercising a skill, though. If you have a rickety bridge in front of you (like Wifi configuration), you do want to try and tread carefully. :)
[09:39] <hackel> ThePhur:  That's what they all say!
[09:39] <progrock> Anyone knwo how to turn off system beeps (without physially removing hte system speaker)... theese beeps on startup and shutdown are getting me dirty looks in class
[09:39] <ThePhur> ive been programming in C++ for like 3 years..its just a simple program to see it g++ is working..
[09:39] <jameseh> good analogy soundray
[09:39] <ThePhur> the compiler just scrolls with errors like theres no tomorrow
[09:39] <anti_social>  have anyone had any problem on detecting EPSON CX 3500 or similars using Dapper Drake Flight 4? Should anyone help me to solve this?
[09:39] <progrock> ThePhur, why would g++ not be working?
[09:40] <soundray> ThePhur: probably apt-get install build-essential...
[09:40] <ThePhur> no idea..i do sudo apt-get install g++..it works fine in hoary
[09:40] <fangorious> progrock: you could mute it in whatever volume mixer you prefer
[09:40] <progrock> ThePhur, yeah do what soundry said... install build-essential.. that gave me g++
[09:40] <moonman> uhh
[09:40] <moonman> is breezy 5.10
[09:40] <kimo> I installed using debootstrap. Now my kernel can't mount my LVM / partition. Any guru wanna help with this please ?
[09:41] <ThePhur> alright..thanks
[09:41] <progrock> fangorious, really? and that will mute it during startup?
[09:41] <master_of_master> hi, are there any qt 4.1 packages for breezy?
[09:41] <fangorious> progrock: maybe, no harm in trying
[09:41] <doro> how do i run a c shell script?
[09:41] <ThePhur> yeah..i just installed g++ cuz it works with sudo apt-get install g++ in hoary..thanks anyways
[09:41] <progrock> fangorious, actually its already muted i think.. which would mean it doesnt work
[09:41] <fangorious> doro: do you have a csh installed?
[09:41] <pianoboy3333> ahhhh!!!! too many things on gcc man page? does anyone know the argument/s that I need to cross compile something for windows... I dont' know much about this...
[09:41] <theine> doro, you need to have tcsh installed for that: sudo apt-get install tcsh
[09:41] <soundray> progrock: are you talking about the login sound during gnome startup?
[09:42] <FraZena> Hi, is there anyone who can help me with ubuntu on an AMD Athlon 64? (my english is bad)
[09:42] <progrock> soundray, no.. during boot and shutdown.. before x even starts
[09:42] <hackel> progrock:  What sound are you talking about?  The BIOS boot beep?  No way to disable that I'm aware of unless your BIOS has an option to.
[09:42] <Rambo3> offcourso
[09:42] <doro> thanks
[09:42] <progrock> hackel, yup.. and my bios has no option
[09:42] <soundray> FraZena: go ahead and ask. But if you feel more comfortable in your own language, check out
[09:43] <soundray> !it
[09:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:43] <hackel> progrock:  I'd suggest booting your computer before class starts. :-P
[09:43] <moonman> is breezy 5.10?
[09:43] <pianoboy3333> ompaul: ahhhh!!!! too many things on gcc man page? does anyone know the argument/s that I need to cross compile something for windows... I dont' know much about this...
[09:43] <fangorious> moonman: yep
[09:43] <D[a] > O_O;
[09:43] <D[a] > It says
[09:43] <D[a] > that the drivers
[09:43] <D[a] > are too outdated..
[09:43] <moonman> fangorious, then oops, i have it marked as hoary
[09:43] <master_of_master> hi, are there any qt 4.1 packages for breezy?
[09:43] <moonman> :P
[09:43] <progrock> hackel, lol... i gues that makes some sense. haha.. but tis more when im messign with my comp in clas and need to do restarts, etc
[09:44] <D[a] > The drivers are too outdated and need to be updated!
[09:44] <D[a] > Any other ideas?
[09:44] <soundray> progrock: I guess it'll be removing the speaker then. Or see the positive side of those dirty looks.
[09:44] <hackel> progrock:  Ahh, see I use Linux so that I never have to restart. :-P
[09:44] <sbalneav> D[a] : Have you download the latest drivers from D-Link?
[09:44] <D[a] > there is no internet
[09:44] <Eshestun> when i am specifiying my desktop as part of a dir in the terminal... do i simply refer to it as /desktop/file or do i have to put something like in windows with the hole C:/windows/blahblah
[09:44] <FlannelKing> pianoboy3333: you're probably looking for the --target flag
[09:44] <D[a] > on that box..
[09:44] <soundray> Hey, hackel, that's not true -- update-manager wants you to! :)
[09:44] <D[a] > no internet on that box..
[09:44] <Daramarak> Hello, could anyone help me. I am so fresh in Ubuntu, linux irc and all. And I need som help installing a package in my Ubuntu installation
[09:44] <progrock> hackel, true... the time will come when reboot isnt my first method of solving problems.
[09:44] <pianoboy3333> FlannelKing: lemme look...
[09:45] <sbalneav> D[a] : Then donwload them on another box, and burn them to a cd.
[09:45] <mikebot> how do i access an ntfs drive in terminal?
[09:45] <GutterPunk> What option should I append to grub to enable 1400x1050 framebuffer mode? I tried vga=0x344 and video=vesafb:1400x1050-32 but neither seems to work
[09:45] <progrock> soundray, lol.. yeah.. well..i dont think ill be rippng my laptop appart for the speaker.. lol... wish the bios had the option
[09:45] <theine> Eshestun, you can refer to it relative to your home directory: ~/Desktop/file
[09:45] <mikebot> cd ~/hda1 ?
[09:45] <Eshestun> ty
[09:45] <moonman> mikebot, check your fstab
[09:45] <D[a] > Nothing?
[09:45] <GutterPunk> I can only get it to vga=792 but that's no very clean on my laptop screen
[09:45] <mikebot> moonman: how do i do that?
[09:45] <Daramarak> I have downloaded the Atmel-firmware .deb file, but I havent got a clue what to do with it.
[09:46] <soundray> progrock: maybe you can squeeze some builder's foam under the speaker grid.
[09:46] <sbalneav> D[a] : What do you mean nothing?
[09:46] <theine> Eshestun, ~ always refers to your home which actually is /home/<your_username>
[09:46] <D[a] > sbalneav
[09:46] <D[a] > NO INTERNET
[09:46] <D[a] > ON It.
[09:46] <sbalneav> Download them on the box that you're internet connected on, and transfer it with a floppy or cd
[09:46] <FlannelKing> sneakernet is a wonderful thing
[09:46] <D[a] > it says that there are no drivers for it
[09:46] <fangorious> my swap partition isn't recognized at boot, due to partition cylinder boundaries, how do I calculate what those boundaries are so I can fix it?
[09:46] <D[a] > for linux
[09:46] <D[a] > on their pc
[09:46] <mikebot> what is fstab/
[09:46] <FlannelKing> except when all you have is floppy drives :(
[09:46] <D[a] > but ubuntu site says it supports.'
[09:46] <mikebot> i just need to get into an ntfs drive
[09:47] <mikebot> via terminal
[09:47] <soundray> GutterPunk: I've never been able to get that mode working on my laptop. You've done all the right things as far as I know.
[09:47] <D[a] > kk
[09:47] <D[a] > BBL.
[09:47] <sbalneav> download the latest WINDOWS drivers.  You were using ndiswrappers, yes?
[09:47] <theine> D[a] , WHO says there are no drivers for WHAT?
[09:47] <jameseh>  which log file would help me trouble shoot hard crashes that have been occuring?
[09:47] <fangorious> mikebot: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt
[09:47] <GutterPunk> soundray, I got it to work using those appends on every other distro really :s maybe I'm missing something here
[09:47] <fangorious> mikebot: substitute the actual device node for hda1
[09:47] <pianoboy3333> FlannelKing: back l8er..
[09:48] <soundray> GutterPunk: in my case I concluded that the video BIOS is buggy.
[09:48] <mikebot> fangorious: mount: only root can do that
[09:48] <fangorious> sudo mount ....
[09:48] <FraZena> OK, sorry, my problem is that, I've just installed ubuntu but after the login the noly thing I have is a beautiful white arrow... can you help me?
[09:48] <mikebot> fangorious: mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[09:48] <mikebot> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /media/hda1
[09:49] <fangorious> mikebot: is hda1 the right partition?
[09:49] <mikebot> fangorious: on my desktoip it says hda1
[09:49] <mikebot> and my other ntfs is hda5
[09:49] <theine> mikebot, do "ls /media/hda1" and see whether that looks like your windows partition
[09:49] <fangorious> mikebot: if you browse into it, is that the right partition?
[09:49] <soundray> FraZena: you mean the login displays fine with the pretty brown screen?
[09:50] <mikebot> theine: ah yeah, it is
[09:50] <mikebot> fangorious: yeah, i couldn't browse it beofre
[09:50] <FraZena> yes, I do correctly the graphic login
[09:50] <mikebot> theine: fangorious: thanks guys
[09:50] <jonagold15> hi
[09:51] <soundray> FraZena: when you see that faulty screen (the arrow), try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. It should take you to the login screen again. Try selecting a different session there.
[09:51] <FraZena> [soundray]  I'm using an integrated VGA
[09:51] <soundray> FraZena: for example Failsafe.
[09:51] <jameseh> swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature?
[09:51] <jameseh> that a biggie? or not
[09:51] <FraZena> [soundray]  I tried all the 3 session
[09:51] <soundray> FraZena: none of them work?
[09:52] <mikebot> thakns you guys,
[09:52] <mikebot> cya
[09:52] <theine> jameseh, which partition is your swap partition?
[09:52] <soundray> FraZena: do you know what chipset you have for your integrated VGA?
[09:52] <jameseh> hda2 i think
[09:52] <FraZena> [soundray]  none but the terminal
[09:52] <Eshestun> lol linux is tricky... ive been using windows for 15 years and i cant even install a single program using linux... and thats when im following instructions !! lol ^_^
[09:53] <wastrel> h8n freenx
[09:53] <soundray> Eshestun: you've come to the right place for help.
[09:53] <DistroWatch> how do i list all the running services
[09:53] <FraZena> [soundray]  ubuntu say it's by via
[09:53] <theine> jameseh, please open a terminal and paste the output of "swapon -s"
[09:53] <jameseh> hda5 sorry
[09:53] <Eshestun> well ive asked around and people have been helpfull... im just a little confused lol
[09:53] <jameseh> -1 priority
[09:54] <soundray> FraZena: when you say "none but the terminal", do you mean that that graphical session is working, or that you can login on the text console?
[09:54] <theine> jameseh, /dev/hda5 ?
[09:54] <jameseh> aye
[09:54] <theine> jameseh, hmmm, don't know what the problem is then...
[09:54] <jameseh> k
[09:54] <FraZena> [soundray]  I'have just finished downloading the ubuntu live cd... I'wanna try with it
[09:54] <soundray> Eshestun: what's causing the confusion right now?
[09:54] <sprizz> does anyone use naim?
[09:54] <jameseh> im just going through log files, and ill be randomly pasting in things i think might be causing my sys to crash
[09:54] <theine> jameseh, do you pass resume=/dev/<whatever> to the kernel?
[09:55] <jameseh> hrm
[09:55] <jameseh> no
[09:55] <jameseh> or how would i check to see
[09:55] <Eshestun> umm well.. im trying to install something that will allow me to use programs that i could normally run in windows... im aware that programs such as adega and wine are not perfect... but i simply cannot get then running
[09:55] <Angel_Dex> !openduke
[09:55] <ubotu> Angel_Dex: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:55] <soundray> FraZena: okay, here's a hint for you: the gnome session writes error messages to .xsession-errors in your home directory. Check its end for errors.
[09:55] <FraZena> [soundray]  the only session that works is called "Terminale d'emergenza"
[09:55] <theine> jameseh, in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:55] <doro> where can i get libstdc++.so.5?
[09:55] <Eshestun> I download the apropriate files.... and i attempt to install and run them and it dosent seem to work
[09:55] <sprizz> anyways, I've been having trouble connecting to services using naim, just wondering if anyone could help.
[09:56] <theine> jameseh, i heard it's not anymore necessary to pass resume= to the kernel for hibernate to work though, but it's worth a try i guess
[09:56] <soundray> FraZena: in Terminale d'emergenza, run 'tail -n 20 ~/.xsession-errors' and paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org. Let us know when you're ready.
[09:57] <digitize> are people using dapper with a fair amount of success (i.e. upgrading from 5.10 without much trouble)?
[09:57] <digitize> or is it still too premature
[09:57] <sbalneav> Eshestun: What windows program is it you're wanting to run?  Maybe there's a linux equivalent that would work better, rather than trying to run a Windows program under Linux/
[09:57] <theine> jameseh, in your case you need to append "resume=/dev/hda5" to the list of kernel arguments
[09:58] <ezech> I need simple, lightweight mp3 player with nice GUI
[09:58] <Eshestun> well its actually a game... silroadonline.. i know some people have been able to get it work while other havent... Its not soo much about the game wrather than the fact that I want to learn how to use it
[09:58] <iBalo> digitize: dapper so far is usable, but gnome is still very buggy/nonfunctional
[09:58] <digitize> iBalo: well i use kde, so gnome wouldn't be a problem
[09:58] <soundray> Eshestun: wine and cedega are advanced stuff, installation-wise. Listen to sbalneav and get a feel for how things work in Ubuntu first.
[09:58] <ezech> xmms is too buggy
[09:58] <FraZena> [soundray]  the ubuntu PC is not connected to internet
[09:58] <james__> hrm
[09:59] <james__> as soon as i opened that /boot/grub/menu.lst my computer crashed
[09:59] <iBalo> digitize: but don't upgrade... take a spare partition and do a fresh install on the 'playground' KDE 3.5 by itself is buggy enough :-)
[09:59] <sbalneav> Eshestun: exactly.  You've pretty much picked the hardest thing to do right off the bat.  Trying to get Linux programs under Windows would be just as complicated.
[09:59] <soundray> FraZena: in that case I suggest you try to make sense of those error messages yourself, and/or summarize them here. Are you chatting from the same machine?
[09:59] <Eshestun> i c
[09:59] <brokengun> hey, im looking for a live CD of any linux distro to run on my Ibook running OSX
[09:59] <lcore> Eshestun, After 15 years of linux you'll feel just like on win now. Believe me: I've recently cought myself tail -f windows xp logs. :)
[09:59] <brokengun> would anyone happen to know where i could get an iso for one?
[09:59] <Zoroaster> I have apache installed, and running, I think, I'm pretty sure because when I reboot I see the service go down, but I point my browser to local host and get "connection refused", I telnet to localhost port 80 and get connection refused, can someone help me
[10:00] <sprizz> brokengun: have you checked out www.distrowatch.com
[10:00] <Eshestun> lol I went from geek to the equivalent of my mother in one night ^_^
[10:00] <brokengun> nopw
[10:00] <FraZena> [soundray]  how can I do the tilde char? (~) on Windows I can do [ALT]  126 on the numeric pad but on ubuntu it doasn't works
[10:00] <brokengun> nope*
[10:00] <DistroWatch> sprizz for ?
[10:00] <sdx> can i resize my partition without reformatting hd and reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:00] <sprizz> brokengun: im sure you'll find somethign there
[10:00] <brokengun> i will now though
[10:00] <brokengun> alright, thank you very much sprizz
[10:00] <hackel> brokengun:  Um, since you're here, you should know to try ubuntu.com. :-P
[10:00] <progrock> Ok.. how about getting rid of the system beep in the command line? (its loud!, lol)
[10:01] <brokengun> hackel: i did, i didn't have much luck
[10:01] <soundray> FraZena: it's just a variable. You can use $HOME or /home/frazena instead (replacing frazena with your actual log name).
[10:01] <Angel_Dex> Anyone use openduke?
[10:01] <sbalneav> Eshestun: A lot of people come from windows expecting Linux to be "just like windows".  In many ways it is, but you do need to learn to do some things differently.  I've used Linux for years, and my place of work has 165 Linux thin client users.  It takes a bit of time to get used to it, but after a while, it'll become second nature, and the benefits will become clear.
[10:02] <anto9us> progrock, Edit | Current Profile | General | Terminal bell
[10:02] <soundray> FraZena: you can also do Shift-Ctrl-7-e
[10:02] <sdx> can i resize my partition without reformatting hd and reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:02] <progrock> anto9us, I mean in the command line outside of X
[10:03] <iBalo> sdx: what do mean by _re_-installing?
[10:03] <soundray> sdx, you can. Boot from a live CD and use parted, gparted or qtparted.
[10:03] <soundray> iBalo: I think he means "without reformatting hd and without reinstalling ubuntu"
[10:03] <Profichilla> ,
[10:04] <lcore> sdx, and don't forget to backup first.
[10:04] <joejoe> how would i run nvidea xconfig?
[10:04] <sdx> okies
[10:04] <joejoe> i untared it what do i do from there
[10:04] <joejoe> ?
[10:04] <wastrel> mmm freenx is working now
[10:05] <nickrud> joejoe: you probably don't want to do it that way, ubuntu has decent nvidia support. Read ubotu's message below
[10:05] <nickrud> !nvidia
[10:05] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:05] <soundray> lcore: "Backup is for sissies. Real Men upload their important stuff by ftp and let the rest of the world mirror it!" (Linus Torvalds)
[10:05] <joejoe> but i have the nforce410 platform
[10:05] <joejoe> so i have to
[10:05] <joejoe> in order to get x to work right
[10:06] <nickrud> joejoe: oh, sorry. I haven't had to try that one, so I'll shut up here 
[10:06] <lcore> soundray, Thanks. I'd rather leave my wifey photos to myself :)
[10:07] <jameseh> (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) would that cause random crashes?
[10:07] <anto9us> progrock, setterm -blength 0
[10:07] <doro> what is the error: internal error: can't open X11 display?
[10:07] <progrock> thanks
[10:07] <jameseh> doro?
[10:08] <doro> yes?
[10:08] <jameseh> was that address to me?
[10:08] <doro> no
[10:08] <jameseh> k
[10:08] <jameseh> heh
[10:08] <doro> was just a  question i have
[10:08] <sbalneav> doro: and where are you getting this error?
[10:08] <soundray> jameseh: no. Have you done a memtest run?
[10:08] <jameseh> how would i do that
[10:09] <iceman> anyone know why i cant get a sound applett on my toolbar ?
[10:09] <jameseh> im thinking its possibly a bad mobo, thats why it was free.
[10:09] <sbalneav> iceman: What applet, and do you have working sound?
[10:09] <soundray> jameseh: with the ubuntu install, you should have got a grub boot option called memtest86 or similar. Run this overnight. If you see any error messages tomorrow, you've got faulty RAM and should replace it.
[10:09] <FraZena>  [soundray]  I'm chatting from my window PC.
[10:09] <FraZena> From the .xsession-errors file on the ubuntu PC:
[10:09] <FraZena> _IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp
[10:09] <FraZena> _IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /dev/X will not be created.
[10:09] <FraZena> Do you need more rows?
[10:10] <soundray> FraZena: no.
[10:10] <iceman> sbalneav sound works, but cannot add a volume control to the Gnome panel
[10:10] <jameseh> i see
[10:10] <progrock> soundray, memtest has to be run overnight for it to be affective?
[10:11] <sbalneav> iceman: has your userid been added to the sound group in /etc/group?
[10:11] <Alexi5> hello
[10:11] <iceman> sbalneav how to check ?
[10:11] <soundray> progrock: I personally run it overnight. Some purists run it for a week before they feel certain enough that their RAM is okay.
[10:11] <jameseh> lol
[10:11] <soundray> FraZena: is this a fresh install?
[10:11] <jameseh> i just bought this ram, but it couldn't hurt to run it for awhile
[10:12] <sbalneav> from a command prompt: grep iceman /etc/group
[10:12] <doro> is there a guide on how to install nvidia drivers?
[10:12] <jameseh> tonnes
[10:12] <progrock> soundray, ok, lol.. i should do that.. ive been suspecting my ram is at fault for some errors ive been having randomly
[10:12] <sbalneav> One of the groups should be sound
[10:12] <FraZena> [soundray]  I did it just one hour ago
[10:12] <preacher> is there dhcpcd already installed on ubuntu 5.10? because i cant find it :|
[10:12] <iceman> audio is listed ?
[10:12] <jameseh> yes preacher it should be
[10:12] <FraZena> [soundray]  The live CD is ready, do you think It can help?
[10:12] <iceman> sbalneav yea audio is there
[10:12] <sbalneav> ok
[10:13] <sbalneav> What happens when you try to add it, do you get an error?
[10:13] <sbalneav> Or does it just not appear?
[10:13] <jameseh> or maybe not preacher ..
[10:13] <iceman> sbalneav no, just it fails to add ... nothing
[10:13] <soundray> FraZena: well, if gnome runs from the live CD, at least we'll know that your graphics hardware is okay.
[10:14] <chmod775> what option I need to configure in httpd.conf for viewing the files in the directory on a webpage ?
[10:14] <soundray> !tell doro about nvidia
[10:14] <sbalneav> iceman: is your userid upgraded from an older version of gnome/ubuntu?  I'm wondering if you haven't got something mucked up in your gnome panel files.
[10:14] <D[a] > ehr
[10:14] <kimo> chmod775, option index something ...
[10:14] <FraZena> [soundray]  before I did the ubuntu installation on that machine there were Windows XP Pro x64 working fine
[10:14] <D[a] > can i use a wireless driver
[10:15] <D[a] > er install one
[10:15] <D[a] > on kubuntu
[10:15] <D[a] > w/o internet already on it?
[10:15] <chmod775> can u tell me the specific setting
[10:15] <iBalo> !enter
[10:15] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[10:15] <chmod775> ?
[10:15] <chmod775> plz
[10:15] <iceman> sbalneav no is a fresh install of breezey .... but did get a error in the install failed to read a file from the cd ...
[10:15] <soundray> FraZena: in that case, hold back with the live CD for now.
[10:15] <iceman> sbalneav dvd / cd-rw drive i think a bit to fast ..
[10:15] <doro> ty again, very helpful chat
[10:15] <sbalneav> iceman: well, then you've probably got a corrupted install.
[10:16] <D[a] > Anything?
[10:16] <iceman> sbalneav so guess i can install kubuntu desktop, and then reinstall gnome
[10:16] <sbalneav> D[a] : Did you download the newer windows driver like I told you to?
[10:16] <D[a] > sbalneav
[10:16] <D[a] > again
[10:17] <D[a] > the dlink site said it doesnt support linux site
[10:17] <D[a] > support linux
[10:17] <D[a] > but
[10:17] <sbalneav> iceman: actually, doing an apt-get upgrade should fix it.
[10:17] <D[a] > the ubuntu site says it does..
[10:17] <FraZena> [soundray] sorry I don't know the meaning of "hold back", however I'm trying the live CD now...
[10:17] <iceman> sbalneav no updates ...
[10:17] <sbalneav> D[a] : yes.  It will probably use the windows drivers under ndiswrappers.
[10:18] <D[a] > well
[10:18] <soundray> FraZena: I don't think it will tell us much...
[10:18] <D[a] > linux doesnt uses .exe
[10:18] <D[a] > AND
[10:18] <D[a] > it says that
[10:18] <D[a] > the apt-get install ndiswapper-tools
[10:18] <sbalneav> Thats why I said to download the latest windows drivers.
[10:18] <D[a] > is too outdated.
[10:18] <iceman> sbalneav i'll install KDE
[10:18] <D[a] > but
[10:18] <D[a] > .exe doesnt work/
[10:18] <jerware> Rawplayer: you're every where man
[10:18] <jerware> Rawplayer: lol  i just migrated to ubuntu from fedora.
[10:18] <FraZena> [soundray]  well, the live CD asked for the kind of VGA I'm using, the installation didn't I have selected VGA for now
[10:19] <sbalneav> the exe will be a self extracting zip archive, you should be able to unzip it with the archive manager.
[10:19] <soundray> D[a] : please stop using linebreaks for punctuation. You've been asked before.
[10:19] <soundray> FraZena: is there any indication that you could be using a Via Unichrome chipset?
[10:20] <FraZena> I'm trying to see it on the ASUS site
[10:20] <sbalneav> D[a] : The other thing you could do is move the box temorarily, and connect it via a regular ethernet connection to get the drivers installed.
[10:21] <AndyBe> Other question: Using Dapper and can't print on Lexmark Z45 with the given driver..
[10:21] <AndyBe> Printer gives me empty papers.
[10:21] <Kr4t05> !wireless
[10:21] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:21] <sbalneav> D[a] : I'm assuming your wireless router has a few spare ports on it?
[10:21] <sdx> another question... how can i change my screen resolution?
[10:21] <Kr4t05> D[a] 
[10:21] <Seveas> !fixres
[10:21] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:21] <Kr4t05> Thought I'd find you here.
[10:22] <Kr4t05> !twinview
[10:22] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kr4t05
[10:22] <sdx> aw
[10:22] <sdx> okies
[10:22] <GreyBear> cls
[10:22] <DigitalGheko> hey where can I get some cool linux wallpapers? =D
[10:23] <sbalneav> D[a] : ping?  Are you there?
[10:23] <Seveas> DigitalGheko, art.gnome.org, gnome-look.org, art.ubuntu.com...
[10:23] <knubbe> is there a live-cd with both ubuntu and kubuntu?
[10:23] <lcore> DigitalGheko, google for gnomelook or kdelook
[10:23] <soundray> DigitalGheko: from your digital camera ;)
[10:23] <DigitalGheko> Seveas, thanks ;] 
[10:23] <Seveas> knubbe, no, that won't ever fit
[10:23] <DigitalGheko> lol
[10:23] <Alexi5> i live in the caribbean.do you guys know of any online computer store that sells good laptops and ships internationally and also accept payment other than a credit card( i don't have one)
[10:23] <DigitalGheko> lcore, I tried that... ended up waisting the past hour looking at rubbish =P
[10:24] <knubbe> Seveas: well. a DVD would do as well :-)
[10:24] <lcore> DigitalGheko, have you tried deviantart?
[10:24] <sbalneav> Alexi5: Probably easier to apply for a CC
[10:24] <Alexi5> oh ok
[10:24] <idefix> hey guys, I can play a DVD with VLC now, except the sound doesn't work, the sound does work when I play MP3's... what's going on here?
[10:25] <Alexi5> sbalneav:i might do that
[10:25] <wastrel> how can i get freenx to use gnome icons?  i just get the default icon image for every type of file
[10:25] <Alexi5> what is a good PC store that has good laptops
[10:25] <soundray> DigitalGheko: my daughter took a close-up picture of our granite kitchen worktop. It looked very cool on my desktop, but drove me mad...
[10:25] <thegladiator> oh :)
[10:26] <idefix> der soundradiator ist wieder da
[10:26] <doro> my video is running a little slow so i look in device manager and it says my video card is PCI... that a problem?
[10:26] <sbalneav> I've got an Acer 2200 that runs Ubuntu fine, and my friend swears by dells.
[10:26] <FraZena> [soundray]  the live CD is frozen on a brown screen with an orrible mouse - the manual of my Mainboard talk about a graphic chipset integrated in the Northbridge - from the site the drivers for Windows are called "VIA/S3G UniChrome Family Display"
[10:26] <maxkelley> dells run ubuntu fine.
[10:26] <thegladiator> I think some of these things are highly dependent on the monitor
[10:27] <maxkelley> wb colm
[10:27] <colm> :D
[10:27] <evilbulgarian> hi, can someone tell me why "CacheRegion.py" is not in python2.4-cheetah package? and how i can get it?
[10:27] <idefix> hey guys, I can play a DVD with VLC now, except the sound doesn't work, the sound does work when I play MP3's... what's going on here?
[10:27] <thegladiator> are there cases wher live cd doesnt work , yet the installation works sort of scenario ?
[10:27] <maxkelley> doro: if your video card is pci, then no.
[10:27] <doro> it's agp heh
[10:27] <thegladiator> idefix check you output , sound
[10:28] <maxkelley> idefix: the way linux sound is designed, only one program can use the sound server at a time.
[10:28] <soundray> FraZena: can you boot normally again, and see if you can login on the text console (Hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 at the login screen to get there).
[10:28] <maxkelley> doro: well then, that is a problem :)
[10:28] <idefix> bash: sound: command not found
[10:28] <idefix> output not found either
[10:28] <idefix> I'm only 20k at linux
[10:28] <maxkelley> wuh?
[10:29] <soundray> thegladiator: I'm sure that's possible.
[10:29] <doro> how do i fix that? bleh
[10:29] <maxkelley> sound isn't a command..
[10:29] <maxkelley> doro: what is your video card?
[10:29] <idefix> how do I check the sound output?
[10:29] <doro> geforce3
[10:29] <thegladiator> soundray : in case of a monitor related problem ? that is gdesktop not workin situation  ?
[10:29] <maxkelley> idefix: in the program prefs menu
[10:29] <thegladiator> X not running i.e
[10:29] <iBalo> idefix: assumong that you use gnome you have to tell vlc to use the esd (sound daemeon) iirc that's a separate package vlc-plugin-esd
[10:29] <maxkelley> doro: do an lspci as root and see if your vid card is in there.
[10:30] <FraZena> [soundray]  now I'm in the text console [CTRL]  + [ALT]  + [F1] 
[10:30] <idefix> so apparently some program is occupying the sound output, instead of the VLC program?
[10:30] <chmod775> is there any irc over http access?
[10:30] <soundray> FraZena: logged in?
[10:30] <maxkelley> idefix: correct.
[10:30] <thegladiator> chmod775 afaik no
[10:30] <maxkelley> chmod775: cgi::irc?
[10:30] <GutterPunk> !xgl
[10:30] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:30] <chmod775> I foyup
[10:30] <maxkelley> oh, no.... not for ubuntu
[10:30] <thegladiator> IRC uses port 6667
[10:30] <doro> yes, it's in there
[10:30] <FraZena> [soundray]  logged in
[10:30] <idefix> maxkelly, how do I kill it?
[10:30] <chmod775> yup
[10:30] <wastrel> h8n freenx
[10:30] <maxkelley> idefix: you have to find the other program.
[10:31] <iBalo> idefix: yes, esd... tell vlc to use it, instaed to talk directly to the hardware
[10:31] <thegladiator> there are http:// based clients for irc
[10:31] <soundray> FraZena: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:31] <chmod775> thegladiator, can u give me the link
[10:31] <thegladiator> but not really good as it can only handle the "chat" aspect mostly
[10:31] <chmod775> ?
[10:31] <preacher> if i burn dhcpcd_2.0.0-2_i386.deb on a CD, how can i access it in ubuntu bash? i need the commands to install it.
[10:31] <idefix> iBalo how?
[10:31] <joe_> hi, i'm receiving this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:31] <joe_> " when trying to configure kxdocker on my computer, is anyone familiar with this program that could possibly help me please?
[10:31] <chmod775> thegladiator, never midn plz give me the link
[10:31] <jetscreamer> dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:31] <chmod775> ?
[10:32] <maxkelley> preacher: apt-get install dhcpcd(blah blah blah)
[10:32] <idefix> apt-get vlc-plugin-esd?
[10:32] <maxkelley> or dpkg
[10:32] <chmod775> IdleOne, hey u there ?
[10:32] <jetscreamer> add sudo
[10:32] <soundray> FraZena: tell it NOT to autodetect.
[10:32] <thegladiator> chmod775 do this , go to searchirc.com and try out a server ir uses java in that case I guess , just try
[10:32] <maxkelley> idefix: apt-get install vlc-plugin-esd
[10:32] <iBalo> idefix: install the mentioned package and check vlc's setting then
[10:32] <maxkelley> with sudo :)
[10:32] <thegladiator> not website embedded though
[10:32] <FraZena> [soundray]  it's asking me for a password
[10:32] <chmod775> ok thegladiator thanks
[10:32] <soundray> FraZena: enter your user password
[10:32] <jetscreamer> vlc isn't the prettiest
[10:33] <maxkelley> jetscreamer: it handles a poopload of formats.
[10:33] <soundray> FraZena: and select "No" on the next screen.
[10:33] <thegladiator> mplayer is pretty
[10:33] <maxkelley> yeah..
[10:33] <jetscreamer> maxkelley: it's claim to fame is *
[10:33] <thegladiator> excpet for its sucky controls interface
[10:33] <maxkelley> cli is nice :)
[10:33] <soundray> FraZena: when you've done that, tell me which choice of X server driver is preselected.
[10:33] <thegladiator> use mplayr without gui and its interface is so nice :)
[10:33] <thegladiator> brb .
[10:33] <lcore> thegladiator, there is a gtk version of mplayer
[10:34] <thegladiator> gtk version which one is that ?
[10:34] <thegladiator> gmplayer right ?
[10:34] <jetscreamer> gmplayer maybe
[10:34] <thegladiator> besides that ?
[10:34] <FraZena> [soundray]  in the list it's selected vesa
[10:34] <jetscreamer> i like xine-ui in x
[10:34] <thegladiator> gmplayer is not very pleasing
[10:34] <doro> man, this thing is frustrating lol
[10:34] <jetscreamer> mplayer rocks cli
[10:34] <idefix> could it be that GAIM is blocking the sound?
[10:34] <thegladiator> I like mplayr from command line ovr all other players
[10:34] <NickGarvey> what command would I use to show all hard drives on a computer?
[10:34] <soundray> FraZena: okay, give me a minute now to look up what driver is recommended for unichrome...
[10:35] <maxkelley> idefix: right click on the gaim icon click mute sounds
[10:35] <nm> NickGarvey: fdisk -l
[10:35] <unut> Hello All, I'm trying to upgrade firefox to 1.5, w/o much success. ubuntu 5.10. Any thoughts? TIA
[10:35] <maxkelley> gaim tray icon, even.
[10:35] <knubbe> Seveas: There is a live-dvd which is 2.9gb. http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/dvd/current/
[10:35] <thegladiator> brb
[10:35] <lcore> thegladiator, http://82.160.87.23/mplayer/mplayer_clearlooks.png
[10:35] <NickGarvey> thank you
[10:35] <knubbe> Seveas: But i dont think the live-dvd includes both ubuntu and kubuntu :-(
[10:35] <Seveas> knubbe, it does
[10:35] <soundray> FraZena: did you install the amd64 or i386 version of ubuntu?
[10:35] <maxkelley> lcore: mmm
[10:35] <nm> knubbe: why do you need both?
[10:36] <chmod775> not getting anything positive
[10:36] <idefix> maxkelly... the sound of the DVD skips
[10:36] <chmod775> anybody irc overhttp
[10:36] <chmod775> ?
[10:36] <FraZena> [soundray]  AMD6
[10:36] <maxkelley> idefix: eh?
[10:36] <danl> what would cause screem to have an upload wizard protocol error when using sftp?
[10:36] <FraZena> [soundray]  AMD64 sorry
[10:36] <nm> chmod: what application are you looking for that?
[10:36] <maxkelley> danl: it's buggy.
[10:36] <soundray> FraZena: if you go down in the list, can you find a via driver?
[10:36] <danl> any ways to get it working?
[10:37] <danl> my server only has sftp
[10:37] <nm> chmod775, explain what you mean by 'over http'
[10:37] <idefix> it goes sound (0.33 sec) nothing (0.33 sec) sound (0.33 sec) etc.
[10:37] <mdmkolbe> I am taking a look at different distros.  Ubuntu seems to be good in that it "just works" (nothing is worse than a broken computer when there's work to be done), but how much control and flexibility do I loose?  (Yeah, I'm one of those annoying power users that wants both total control and total automation like with a gentoo/ubuntu hybrid)
[10:37] <FraZena> [soundray]  no, the list end with vga __
[10:37] <maxkelley> idefix: strange.
[10:37] <chmod775> nm I want to access irc on a web browser
[10:37] <FraZena> [soundray]  the asus site has linux driver to download too
[10:37] <soundray> FraZena: is this dapper or breezy?
[10:37] <nm> mdmkolbe: you lose about as much control/flexibility as you do by choosing to use debian as your distro
[10:37] <ubuntu> hi
[10:37] <idefix> it probably has to do with area codes, right?
[10:37] <chmod775> I should just go www.blah.net and then login to IRC
[10:37] <maxkelley> mdmkolbe: well, root is disabled my default... does that give you an idea?
[10:37] <thegladiator> how do I make xchat use 7000 as the default port?
[10:37] <idefix> I probably have the wrong area code?
[10:37] <nm> chmod: look up eirc (eteria irc?)
[10:38] <knubbe> nm: id like to try flight4 on my laptop. both kde and gnome. i run both on it now (breezy though).
[10:38] <soundray> FraZena: #leave that as an emergency option.
[10:38] <maxkelley> thegladiator: go into the code :P
[10:38] <nm> knubbe: install ubuntu and kubuntu on seperate partitions, might be easier than crafting your own livecd
[10:38] <thegladiator> cmon there has to be an easy setting!
[10:38] <maxkelley> chmod775: firefox has a chatzilla extension, I think
[10:38] <FraZena> [soundray]  :) Ok
[10:38] <keeb_> :D
[10:38] <chmod775> maxkelley, I know that
[10:38] <soundray> FraZena: is there a unichrome option?
[10:38] <Raph> evening' again
[10:39] <chmod775> But I just want directly without an extension
[10:39] <maxkelley> thegladiator: go into the code, replace all instances of 6667 with 7000, recompile :)
[10:39] <maxkelley> chmod775: set it up on your own server then
[10:39] <chmod775> how
[10:39] <Raph> it there any issues with the Archive repository ?
[10:39] <chmod775> ?
[10:39] <thegladiator> maxkelley,  thanks but , are you sure there is no other wordaround ?
[10:39] <maxkelley> chmod775: google!
[10:39] <chmod775> haha
[10:39] <FraZena> [soundray]  no unicrome, what do you mean with "is this dapper or breezy?"
[10:39] <maxkelley> thegladiator: look in .xchat2
[10:39] <FlannelKing> chmod775: so, you want to be able to connect to the irc server for whatever site youre browsing automatically?
[10:39] <knubbe> nm: but i dont want to install it, i just want to see if flight 4 works on my laptop.
[10:39] <maxkelley> ~/.xchat2
[10:40] <joe_> hi, i'm receiving this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:40] <joe_> " when trying to configure kxdocker on my computer, is anyone familiar with this program that could possibly help me please?
[10:40] <chmod775> yes FlannelKing
[10:40] <soundray> FraZena: which version of Ubuntu did you download?
[10:40] <maxkelley> joe_: yes, look in synaptic for x includes or something
[10:40] <Alexi5> hello
[10:40] <FlannelKing> chmod775: that's an awesome idea, but I don't think anything does it.  Sounds like a potential FF extension to me.
[10:40] <thegladiator> maxkelley, thats all I asked you , .xchat2 , why did you refer me to code ? :)
[10:41] <allowa> hey, having problem installing ubuntu. Have the HD partitioned (had linux+windows in that before) but when installing the partitions don't show up
[10:41] <chmod775> http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/
[10:41] <joe_> maxkelley_: thank you
[10:41] <chmod775> http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/
[10:41] <Alexi5> i would liketo know if there is much difference between the laptops in uk and the ones in the US
[10:41] <maxkelley> joe_: the problem is that ubuntu comes with bare-bones when it comes to advances stuff...
[10:41] <maxkelley> Alexi5: they have different lang-packs on them for default? :P
[10:41] <FraZena> [soundray]  Ubuntu  5.10 "The Breezy Badger"
[10:41] <FlannelKing> chmod775: oh, you're just looking for a web based IRC client?
[10:41] <chmod775> yes
[10:41] <maxkelley> haha, FlannelKing
[10:41] <chmod775> yes FlannelKing
[10:42] <maxkelley> mmm.. someone works at hp
[10:42] <thegladiator> let me check
[10:42] <soundray> FraZena: I see. It's strange that you don't seem to have a via option there...
[10:42] <Raph> it there any issues with the Archive repository ?
[10:42] <FlannelKing> chmod775: why didn't you just ask? and yeah, cgi:IRC is exactly what you're looking for
[10:42] <thegladiator> kewl
[10:42] <allowa> anyone?
[10:42] <thegladiator> its working well :)
[10:42] <chmod775> FlannelKing, u ideas on that ?
[10:42] <LjL> joe_: x-window-system-dev is a package you'll need to compile stuff that uses X
[10:42] <allowa> I found a similar problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=349241
[10:42] <chmod775> I mean any links
[10:42] <maxkelley> thegladiator: it is?
[10:42] <LjL> joe_: also, you should have build-essential installed for compiling anything
[10:42] <alf_> hi! some help here :)
[10:42] <FraZena> [soundray]  I'm not sure but the live cd did'n have it too
[10:43] <alf_> how can i creeate /dev/audio
[10:43] <thegladiator> maxkelley, yep :) .xchat2>serverlist
[10:43] <maxkelley> alf_: it should be there...
[10:43] <LjL> joe_: when you get more specific, there isn't a generic answer. but you can use auto-apt to find out what package a given file is contained in
[10:43] <alf_> it not there
[10:43] <sbalneav> alf_: If it isn't already there, then your soundcard wasn't detected.
[10:43] <maxkelley> alf_: either that or /dev/dsp or /dev/mixer or something like that
[10:43] <thegladiator> chmod775, whats the prob using xchat ?
[10:43] <alf_> yea
[10:43] <LjL> joe_: so for example, if you "configure" script complains about a missing blah.h header, you can run "auto-apt search blah.h"
[10:43] <alf_> it was dectec
[10:43] <chmod775> thegladiator, I can't access it in office
[10:43] <alf_> its a snd-hda-intel
[10:44] <FlannelKing> chmod775: can you SSH home or anything?
[10:44] <FraZena> [soundray]  the driver are called "VIA/S3G UniChrome Family Display" do you think I can try S3 in the list?
[10:44] <maxkelley> chmod775: ssh home:)
[10:44] <chmod775> nope it's very secure
[10:44] <thegladiator> chmod775, I dont think you cud then even if you do all that
[10:44] <maxkelley> chmod775: scream at the netadmin.
[10:44] <joe_> LjL: so what about if it asks hi, i'm receiving this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[10:44] <joe_> " what is the x includes its talking about?
[10:44] <chmod775> oh
[10:44] <sbalneav> Well, heading home for the day.  Later all.
[10:44] <thegladiator> chmod775, your office might be blocking 6660-6669 ports ?
[10:44] <Zoroaster> msg /nickserv identify nevermind
[10:44] <chmod775> Maybe
[10:44] <LjL> chmod775: if your office blocks ports around 6667 (the ones used by IRC), which it probably does, you won't gain anything by using a web client
[10:45] <chmod775> Oh
[10:45] <joe_> LjL: do i use the auto-apt in that case?3
[10:45] <soundray> FraZena: the s3 drivers are for an older family of cards, manufactured before Via bought S3. It's worth trying, but I wouldn't bet on it working...
[10:45] <maxkelley> LjL: java ones tunnel to the server computer..
[10:45] <cello_rasp> i have a usb keyboard with 2 pointing devices. both show up on device manager. how do i dsable one of them?
[10:45] <chmod775> Is there a way out of this ?
[10:45] <LjL> joe_: no, you don't in that case. you don't know what's the specific include it's talking about
[10:45] <thegladiator> chmod775, check if port 7000 is working
[10:45] <maxkelley> cello_rasp: familiar with modprobe?
[10:45] <LjL> joe_: but in that specific case, i can tell you that you need x-window-system-dev
[10:45] <chmod775> ok otherwise
[10:45] <chmod775> Any other way out ?
[10:45] <soundray> FraZena: if you select s3 (or anything), you can go through the rest of the configuration and just accept the defaults.
[10:45] <maxkelley> LjL: ah, cool, now I know too :)
[10:45] <joe_> LjL: ok but how would i find out what that specific include is?
[10:46] <LjL> maxkelley: do they? if they do on port 80 or thereabouts, then they might work
[10:46] <cello_rasp> maxkelley: not terribly, but i can give it a shot
[10:46] <thegladiator> other than that hit google , there are some solutions , but they pretty indirect like registering for a shell account else where and loggin into that shell using IRC client etc :)
[10:46] <allowa> anyone has seen this? ----> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=349241
[10:46] <soundray> FraZena: after that, you do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' to test.
[10:46] <thegladiator> its not very easy but ask google!
[10:46] <FlannelKing> chmod775: you could try using an HTTP proxy, to your home machine or whatnot.  But really, you need more information.
[10:46] <maxkelley> LjL: mine does... I can't remember which though
[10:46] <chmod775> ok
[10:46] <LjL> joe_: that's not really a specific include it's complaining about there
[10:46] <alf_> anybody know?
[10:46] <thegladiator> alf_, ?
[10:47] <maxkelley> chmod775: if you contact me in about 4 hours I can set up something for you.
[10:47] <maxkelley> i should be on irc..
[10:47] <LjL> joe_: it's just running some generic check too see that you have the standard X include files installed. there's a ton of includes that it will need there
[10:47] <cello_rasp> maxkelley: what does modprobe allow me to do?
[10:47] <maxkelley> if not leave me a privmsg with your email addr
[10:47] <FraZena> [soundray]  I'm rebooting with the new configuration... touch the wood
[10:47] <maxkelley> cello_rasp: it's complicated and probably won't work :)
[10:47] <alf_> how can i create a /dev/audio
[10:47] <joe_> LjL: ok and is there a package i can install that has a lot of includes that it might need?
[10:47] <soundray> FraZena: don't reboot
[10:48] <soundray> FraZena: just 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' to test.
[10:48] <LjL> joe_: you could also try "auto-apt run ./configure". that will run your configure *under* auto-apt, which will then prompt you for *every* file that configure tries to access
[10:48] <Alexi5> are the intel core duo faster than the AMD Turion 64
[10:48] <jetscreamer> joe_: apt-cache search -dev | less :o
[10:48] <LjL> joe_: but that can become quite confusing, since the configure script will really try to access even files that aren't even remotely needed
[10:48] <maxkelley> Alexi5: probably not :P amd pwns
[10:48] <Alexi5> ok
[10:48] <LjL> joe_: so if you don't know what you're doing you'll end up installing Fortran compilers and other weird things ;)
[10:48] <soundray> Alexi5: that is impossible to answer, unless you ask for a specific benchmark.
[10:48] <jetscreamer> yeah :(
[10:48] <FraZena> [sundray]  I did "sudo reboot" is it wrong? my god, the screen is orrible
[10:48] <jetscreamer> been there
[10:49] <LjL> joe_: do try x-window-system-dev first. that's the one package X programs will absolutely need
[10:49] <soundray> FraZena: rebooting was unnecessary.
[10:49] <allan__> is it worth upgrading to Dapper yet?
[10:49] <LjL> job_: other packages vary depending on the program. but x-window-system-dev will make them stop complaining about "X includes"
[10:49] <thegladiator> allan__, probably not
[10:49] <FraZena> [soundray]  remember I'm a Windows user, rebooting is my life.. :-)
[10:49] <soundray> allan__: if you're into troubleshooting, go for it.
[10:49] <LjL> allan__: Dapper is not out, so unless you have some very specific need, no
[10:50] <thegladiator> allan__, it depends on you usage etc
[10:50] <allan__> ah
[10:50] <soundray> FraZena: funny you should mention it. I have to reboot right now to fix something... Will be back.
[10:50] <mdmkolbe> are the ubuntu packages compiled i386 or i686?
[10:51] <Alexi5> i only see benchmarks between the pentium M and the turion
[10:51] <joe_> LjL: so i type "x-window-system-dev" in a terminal?
[10:51] <Alexi5> and the Turion was rated to be better
[10:51] <LjL> joe_: no. you type "sudo aptitude install x-window-system-dev"
[10:51] <LjL> joe_: or you use synaptic if you prefer that
[10:51] <FraZena> [soundray]  the S3 choice was a failure, I have another VGA, do you think mounting it can help? It's an ATI Radeon 9250 is it supported?
[10:52] <thegladiator> FraZena, yes i guess ATI radeon is a good choice
[10:52] <LjL> !tell joe_ about shortapt
[10:52] <thegladiator> anything is better than s3 unichrome , I have it !
[10:52] <FraZena> thanx Gladiator
[10:52] <joejoe> ok right now my ethernet port isnt working becuase i have the nforce410 and i need to install the gcc3.4 package without getting it off the internet so i went and got it maually off the repository website now how would i install this package?
[10:52] <maxkelley> joejoe: eh?
[10:52] <joe_> LjL: in the terminal it says "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:52] <joe_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:52] <joe_> "
[10:53] <LjL> joe_: close synaptic
[10:53] <joejoe> here i need to install the gcc3.4 package somehow
[10:53] <joejoe> and i dont have internet
[10:53] <LjL> joe_: by the way, isn't kxdocker in the repositories? i recall that it was
[10:53] <doro> any good tools that let you monitor temps?
[10:54] <LjL> !info kxdocker
[10:54] <ubotu> kxdocker: (innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.35-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 215 kB, Installed size: 708 kB
[10:54] <joejoe> so i downloaded it thru windows and put it on a usb
[10:54] <LjL> joe_: so why are you compiling it?
[10:54] <joejoe> how would i install it in linux
[10:54] <joejoe> ?
[10:54] <LjL> joejoe: download it, and then use "sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb".
[10:54] <Gorgapor> are there any partition managers that can be used from an ubuntu liveCD?
[10:54] <joe_> LjL: huh?
[10:54] <LjL> joejoe: but you must take care to *also* get and install any dependency that it might have - and i suspect it has a few
[10:54] <joejoe> but when u download it
[10:55] <FraZena> [thegladiator]  do you have an unicrome?
[10:55] <joejoe> it doesnt come as a .deb
[10:55] <LjL> joe_: kxdocker is in the repositories. you don't need to compile it.
[10:55] <maxkelley> joejoe: is it a tar?
[10:55] <thegladiator> FraZena, s3 unichrome
[10:55] <joejoe> yes
[10:55] <LjL> joejoe: uh?! of course GCC comes as a deb
[10:55] <joejoe> and i have installed all other dependancies
[10:55] <FraZena> [thegladiator]  integrated on your motherboard?
[10:55] <maxkelley> joejoe: tar -xvzf *.tar
[10:55] <LjL> !info gcc-3.4
[10:55] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 473 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB
[10:55] <joejoe> give me a link
[10:55] <thegladiator> FraZena, exactly :)
[10:55] <joejoe> here ill show u were i got it
[10:55] <maxkelley> joejoe: cd (dir) , ./configure, make, make install
[10:56] <Gorgapor> please, it's important; are there any partition managers that can be used from an ubuntu liveCD?
[10:56] <FraZena> [thegladiator]  I have an ASUS A8V-MX you too?
[10:56] <LjL> maxkelley: except i'm not sure it'll be *quite* that easy to install GCC ;-) i think he'll be *much* better off getting ubuntu's binary!
[10:56] <joe_> LjL: so what do i need to do?
[10:56] <Gorgapor> i've gone and screwed up my partitions
[10:56] <joejoe> well when i do that it doesnt work right
[10:56] <maxkelley> LjL: oh, he wants to install gcc?
[10:56] <LjL> joe_: "sudo aptitude install kxdocker", or the equivalent in synaptic
[10:56] <eQualizer> Could someone tell me why my Gnome freezes up after logging in?
[10:56] <thegladiator> FraZena, mine is mercury but same one , integrated shared s3 unichrome
[10:56] <jenda> what's the command to move all files within a dir (recursively) to a single one?
[10:56] <eQualizer> As soon as I have entered my login name and pw, it freezes.
[10:56] <LjL> maxkelley: apparently - and his box doesn't have internet access (he needs gcc 3.4)
[10:57] <FraZena> [soundray]  welcome back
[10:57] <Gorgapor> jenda, you'd probably need a script to do that
[10:57] <soundray> FraZena: any luck with s3?
[10:57] <maxkelley> mv -r * /home/newdir/
[10:57] <joejoe> here i got it at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/gcc-3.4
[10:57] <thegladiator> FraZena, didnt much about gfx those days , I dont like s3 unichrome much , its old technology , radeon is better
[10:57] <maxkelley> that was to jenda
[10:57] <Gorgapor> guess i was wrong
[10:57] <warthawg> if a fella wanted to go back to breezy 32 from breezy 64, would he have to do a complete reinstall, or could he "upgrade" ?
[10:57] <Gorgapor> seriously tho, are there any partition managers that can be used from an ubuntu liveCD?
[10:57] <LjL> maxkelley: can you give him the path to the right package? i'm not running ubuntu right now. "apt-cache show gcc-3.4" will show the path (something like pool/breezy/g/gcc-3.4...)
[10:57] <maxkelley> warthawg: comple reinstall I believe..
[10:58] <FraZena> [soundray]  s3 was a failure, I'have installed a new VGA, an ATI radeon 9250, now trying to reconfigure xserver
[10:58] <maxkelley> k, one sec.
[10:58] <warthawg> darn it, but thanks, maxkelley
[10:58] <LjL> joejoe: that *is* a deb file
[10:58] <maxkelley> badooooo!
[10:58] <JoelOl75> mp3 mouseover preview in gnome, anyone know what programs add in this support? Mine broke and just makes a chirp sound now
[10:58] <LjL> joejoe: at least, it is if you click on the "i386" (or whatever architecture you need) link instead of clicking on the source link.........
[10:58] <jenda> maxkelley: you sure about that?
[10:59] <maxkelley> what the heck is with all these joes?
[10:59] <joe_> LjL: ok so after i type that in, then what?
[10:59] <sovin> question: i used synaptic to install kismet, does anyone know where the config files for kismet are if installed via synaptic?
[10:59] <barktpolar> Hello
[10:59] <soundray> FraZena: good choice. Have you read the ubuntu guides for ati?
[10:59] <maxkelley> jenda: use cp to copy them instead
[10:59] <LjL> maxkelley: nevermind that, the link he's got is correct. he just got the wrong file
[10:59] <warthawg> SET MAX_JOE = 1
[10:59] <LjL> joe_: then kxdocker is installed.
[10:59] <maxkelley> LjL: hehe
[10:59] <maxkelley> warthawg: hehe
[10:59] <trpr42> sovin: at a prompt you can type dpkg -L kismet .... and it will list all the files in the package and where they were installed to
[10:59] <maxkelley> GENERAL HEHE TO ALL PLZ OK
[10:59] <barktpolar> Where is Ubuntu located in countrywise
[10:59] <joejoe> ohhhhh ok i see
[10:59] <joejoe> lol thx man
[10:59] <FraZena> [soundray]  no, sorry, where can I find it? o.O' I'm a windows user, we don't read
[10:59] <maxkelley> barktpolar: some weird island.
[10:59] <soundray> !tell FraZena about ati
[10:59] <jenda> maxkelley: of course, thanks :)
[11:00] <Henry_Bean> hi, it is possible that in dapper r about four days that is nothing to upgrade??
[11:00] <barktpolar> O.K. Is there any tax if it's sent to the U.S.
[11:00] <soundray> FraZena: no, you are now officially an Ubuntu user. Welcome!
[11:00] <soundray> Henry_Bean: unlikely.
[11:00] <barktpolar> I wanted to know
[11:00] <peeters> Hello everone
[11:00] <FraZena> [soundray]  Thankyou... ^.^
[11:01] <sovin> trpr42 : many thanks.
[11:01] <barktpolar> O.K. and how long iwll it take for my CDs
[11:01] <LjL> joejoe: you do realize that you also need all the listed dependencies (i.e. binutils, libc6, etc, though many will be already installed), and also the dependencies of the dependencies, etc?
[11:01] <joe_> LjL: where would it install to/ how would i run it now?
[11:01] <soundray> FraZena: I hope it'll work for you. Have to go now. Ciao!
[11:01] <Henry_Bean> soundray: i make apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade and "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." :(
[11:01] <trpr42> sovin: it wasn't exactly the answer to your question.. i don't know how to check that list from within synaptic (that is a feature i am sure), but synaptic just uses apt, and thats the apt way of checking
[11:01] <LjL> joe_: perhaps try typing "kxdocker" - or otherwise, "dpkg -L kxdocker" will give you a list of all the files it installed. the ones in /usr/bin will probably be executable
[11:02] <soundray> Henry_Bean: sounds unusual to me. I had plenty of upgrades today, yesterday and the day before.
[11:02] <JoelOl75> cant find info anywhere on this Matacity mp3 mouseover preview in gnome, anyone know what programs add in this support? Mine broke and just makes a chirp sound now
[11:02] <barktpolar> So how long?
[11:02] <peeters> where can I find a development release of ubuntu? version 5.10 don't work on my Acer 8200
[11:02] <nickrud> Henry_Bean: what repo mirror are you using?
[11:02] <joejoe> yes i do know
[11:02] <joejoe> and i have the rest
[11:02] <eQualizer> How do I start X? I need to start it for Fluxbox.
[11:02] <LjL> !tell peeters about dapper
[11:02] <Henry_Bean> nickrud: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:02] <Henry_Bean> nickrud: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[11:03] <sovin> trpr42: ah, it works admirably though -- the install through symantic was more a nooblish move on my part anyways :) thanks again.
[11:03] <nickrud> Henry_Bean: then, I just updated that 30 minutes ago, and have packages. Strange
[11:03] <odat> whats the command to see you ip address assigned by your router
[11:03] <odat> ?
[11:03] <Blissex> eQualizer: two waysL: if you use a DM then ask for the ''emergency'' config, else from a terminal 'xinit;
[11:03] <LjL> odat: try "ifconfig"
[11:03] <maxkelley> sovin: synaptic, you mean? I hate windoze symantec P
[11:03] <Stormx2> what is k3b?
[11:03] <joe_> LjL: ok it worked.  Thank you very very much =)
[11:03] <Henry_Bean> noo! u r right! i have no the deb line in that repository :S just the src :@
[11:03] <miL> any scottish around?
[11:04] <miL> any scottish around?
[11:04] <nickrud> Henry_Bean: ah ha!
[11:04] <Rambo3> !rar
[11:04] <ubotu> well, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:04] <Stormx2> !k3b
[11:04] <ubotu> K3b was created to be a feature-rich and easy to handle CD burning application, for more info goto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[11:04] <LjL> joe_: remember what the bot told you about searching and installing packages, next time. in most case you will *not* need to download and compile anything, as long as the repositories have the package you need
[11:04] <Henry_Bean> it's recomendable to make upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[11:04] <LjL> miL: this is a question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:04] <LjL> Henry_Bean: dist-upgrade afaik
[11:04] <joe_> LjL: ok ill follow that.  Thank you again
[11:05] <barktpolar> Did anyone answer my tax question?
[11:05] <Henry_Bean> 137 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 2 to remove and 1 not upgraded. COOL!!!!
[11:05] <sovin> maxkelley: yes, and here here for linux's practically virus-free architecture!
[11:05] <Henry_Bean> xD
[11:05] <mojota> Hello im running apache on ubuntu and i was wanting to create a ftp server to point to apache directory to upload / download / delete files well i tryed to install proftd and it works it will ask for a username / pw but i never can get it to login i was wondering if anyone could show me a config of proftpd that shows how to do a useraccount for a certain directory to upload / download / delete files
[11:05] <LjL> sovin: virus-free architecture?
[11:05] <nickrud> barktpolar: it is free, no cost, therefore no tax
[11:05] <maxkelley> sovin: yay!
[11:05] <barktpolar> Cool
[11:05] <cello_rasp> holy runons batman
[11:06] <maxkelley> eh?
[11:06] <maxkelley> runons?
[11:06] <cello_rasp> run-on sentences :)
[11:06] <peeters> is Ubuntu 5.10 the latest version?
[11:06] <barktpolar> and how long does it take for ubuntu to come in for wheer I live
[11:07] <maxkelley> cello_rasp: oh, yeah... talk about it.
[11:07] <nickrud> barktpolar: figure 4-8 wks
[11:07] <Stormx2> Henry_Bean: What you doing, upgrading to dapper?
[11:07] <maxkelley> peeters: yeah
[11:07] <maxkelley> peeters: latest stable, tha
[11:07] <kbrosnan> Well they do ask to make your question one message. But yes a period (full stop) would be nice
[11:07] <maxkelley> that is.
[11:07] <peeters> maxkelly: there is no latest development version available?
[11:07] <maxkelley> hehehe
[11:07] <LjL> peeters: it's the latest non-development version, yeah
[11:08] <nickrud> barktpolar: it's still faster to download, even over several days with a dialup.
[11:08] <maxkelley> peeters: dapper flight 4 is avail, but 5.10 is the latest stable
[11:08] <GreyBear> Tax Quwstion, I received my Breezy distro in U.S.A. free of charge, no postage, no tax
[11:08] <LjL> peeters: the bot just sent you a link about the next version
[11:08] <LjL> peeters: please read it
[11:08] <cello_rasp> I think it would be awesome if you could get universe and multivers on cd as well.. maybe a few dvds like debian
[11:08] <maxkelley> the bot knows what you're thinking!
[11:08] <maxkelley> cello_rasp: eh?
[11:09] <GreyBear> Mine arrived in less than 3 weeks
[11:09] <maxkelley> oh, I see what you mean
[11:09] <Bratsche> Hello.
[11:09] <maxkelley> that'd be.. odd.
[11:09] <maxkelley> helawo Bratsche
[11:09] <Henry_Bean> Stormx2: no, i'm in dapper, i installed dapper from scratch, but i don't know why i forget to add the deb line in sources.list of the oficial repositories, so three days from now i had nothing to upgrade
[11:09] <cello_rasp> not really, i know people without connections that could do with ubuntu
[11:09] <Bratsche> Sooo, I was just wondering why I should switch to Ubuntu from Windows 98.
[11:09] <Bratsche> (I'm looking for a good Linux distro)
[11:09] <peeters> LjL, I can't find the link to download it, sorry
[11:10] <Stormx2> Bratsche: because ubuntu kicks ass? :P
[11:10] <LjL> Bratsche: perhaps you shouldn't. though, actually, you should probably switch to *anything* instead of staying with win98...
[11:10] <nickrud> Bratsche: tonnes of good software, on a reliable base
[11:10] <Ribs> Windows 95?
[11:10] <cello_rasp> Bratche: becasue Ubuntu has significantly better hardware support (it is true!) and gnome acts exactly the same :)
[11:10] <Stormx2> Bratsche: What kind of user are you? What do you do on a computer?
[11:10] <maxkelley> Bratsche: security, uptime, free cookies...
[11:10] <cello_rasp> althought win98 was the best of the windows series before XP
[11:10] <LjL> peeters: that's because there is no download link there. but just join #ubuntu+1, and you'll find the link
[11:10] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: Win2K ftw
[11:11] <Xenguy> Bratsche: freedom is the most important reason IMHO
[11:11] <Seveas> Bratsche, if you're looking for a good linux distro then win98 is a bad choice ;)
[11:11] <peeters> LjL: thank you
[11:11] <Ribs> cello_rasp: Well, improving on Windows 95 wasn't too hard, really.
[11:11] <Stormx2> lol Seveas :P
[11:11] <maxkelley> hehe...
[11:11] <cello_rasp> Stormx2 haha 98sp was a missiove improvemtn and much better that the terrible implementation of NT as on 2K
[11:11] <maxkelley> Change a background here, colour there, voila, Win98!
[11:11] <Bratsche> Stormx2: I'm mostly a student-type user. Writing stuff, internet surfing, Wikipedia editing, and audio work.
[11:12] <maxkelley> Bratsche: awesome, you'd be great for linux.
[11:12] <Bratsche> I'm actually just sick of all of the bugs in Windows.
[11:12] <cello_rasp> Bratsche: then ubuntu is perfect for you!
[11:12] <Seveas> Bratsche, but seriously: you should only use Ubuntu or any other linux if you're unhappy with what you have now. Download an Ubuntu live cd and try it out - if you like it: install it 
[11:12] <LordKhaine> I think we can all agree that windows ME was clearly the best windows version ;o
[11:12] <LjL> cello_rasp: perhaps you mean before 2000. i can't see one reason why 98 would be better than 2000
[11:12] <Rambo3> move it to ubuntu-offtopic
[11:12] <maxkelley> who isn't?
[11:12] <cello_rasp> Micorsoft Bob was
[11:12] <Bratsche> Seveas: Well, yes. I am unhappy right now (at least in regards to computer work)
[11:12] <maxkelley> 2000-xp is just as bad..
[11:12] <Seveas> Bratsche, then you really should give Ubuntu a try
[11:13] <gareth> hello, how do I set gnome to close a window, when double click on left most application icon on the top bar
[11:13] <Seveas> the live cd makes trying it out easy
[11:13] <Bratsche> Cool.
[11:13] <FlannelKing> Ljl I'm still partial to 95, honestly.
[11:13] <LinuxJones> Bratsche: most people are lost when they first install Linux. It will take a bit of time getting used to it, but it's certainly worth the effort.
[11:13] <Stormx2> Bratsche: Writing, Internet, Wikipedia is all handled. What kind of audio work? Just listening to music, or mixing it, or what?
[11:13] <cello_rasp> I came from using slackware but I was still very pleased with how easy it was to install ubuntu
[11:13] <maxkelley> If you have a strong urge to throw your freakishly heavy CRT out the window, Linux is for you!!
[11:14] <Bratsche> Stormx2: Yes, listening, but I've started a small podcast for my school, so any mixing software would be great.
[11:14] <Seveas> maxkelley, I have a featherlight laptop and still I love Ubuntu ;)
[11:14] <cello_rasp> there is hardly any process, infact installation is quicker than any of the windows family
[11:14] <maxkelley> Bratsche: audacity is amazing. music record software
[11:14] <cello_rasp> Seveas have you tried xubuntu?
[11:14] <maxkelley> Seveas: freakishly light is also included in there :)
[11:14] <Seveas> cello_rasp, yes, a long time ago. I love my gnome 
[11:14] <Bratsche> maxkelley: Yes, that's what I've been using.
[11:14] <Stormx2> Bratsche: There are about 252,515 media players for linux :P
[11:14] <cello_rasp> maxkelley: audacity is ok but it has nothing on cool edit pro i am afraid
[11:15] <maxkelley> Bratsche: yep, audacity is linux based..
[11:15] <maxkelley> cello_rasp: never used it..
[11:15] <maxkelley> erm, I mean it's linux compatible.
[11:15] <LjL> maxkelley: uh, why, does it come with a lift? i didn't find one with apt, and i tried "apt-cache search crt window throw"
[11:15] <Bratsche> It's interesting to note that the only reason why I got interested in open-source software is because Windows starting breaking a lot.
[11:15] <maxkelley> there's a linux version. you understand by now :)
[11:15] <Bratsche> First IE --> Firefox
[11:15] <cello_rasp> audacity needs a much better UI and an effects interface and it is good to go
[11:15] <maxkelley> LjL: eh?
[11:15] <LjL> maxkelley: ignore me
[11:15] <Seveas> Bratsche, hehe, many others preceeded you 
[11:16] <Bratsche> Then Office ---> OpenOffice.org. I guess I'm just looking to finish the switch.
[11:16] <maxkelley> LjL: No, no lift... sadly... you must pick it up and break the window yourself.
[11:16] <Seveas> Bratsche, I have one more thing to say: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[11:16] <LinuxJones> Bratsche: if you want audio software have a look at this >> http://www.rosegardenmusic.com
[11:16] <maxkelley> Bratsche: I went from win98 to a copy of xp from my mom's office, then quickly over to fedora core 2, then ubuntu
[11:16] <Seveas> and download it 
[11:16] <LjL> maxkelley: that's a pity. well, at least linux comes with an easy way to stop the CPU fan and watch it melt
[11:16] <RollyW> hello all, just got ubuntu :)
[11:16] <Bratsche> Ok, well, you guys just confirmed my suspicions on ubuntu. I guess I'll go start a download. :)
[11:16] <maxkelley> LjL: hehe...
[11:16] <cello_rasp> welcome RollyW
[11:16] <RollyW> thanks
[11:17] <Bratsche> See you around.
[11:17] <Seveas> Bratsche, and if you run into problems: where here to help
[11:17] <maxkelley> RollyW: YAY!
[11:17] <RollyW> can already tell this is much better than windows
[11:17] <cello_rasp> another one corrupted
[11:17] <Seveas> RollyW, welcome aboard
[11:17] <Bratsche> Seveas: That's a relief.
[11:17] <RollyW> thanks guys!
[11:17] <ryan> hey guys
[11:17] <maxkelley> RollyW: Try xfce.. it's a very light, fast window manager compared to Gnome.
[11:17] <Seveas> hi ryan
[11:17] <Bratsche> Bye.
[11:17] <ryan> i have a question about linux
[11:17] <RollyW> although i must say, this Gaim is quite the change
[11:17] <maxkelley> I mean.. not meanly..
[11:17] <Rambo3> could svgalib programs be used for displaying bootsplash-like programs ?
[11:18] <ryan> hi seveas
[11:18] <LjL> ryan: it better be about *ubuntu* though ;)
[11:18] <maxkelley> ryan: go, shoot, bang.
[11:18] <ryan> it is
[11:18] <Klick_> hey all, ive noticed my root partition to be filling up fast but i store most of my data on a seperate partition, any ideas what is taking up all this space, and how can i clean it up some
[11:18] <h36sa> hi.. is anyone running enlightenment-17? I really like it but the only repository (deb http://soulmachine.net/breezy unstable/) is built in october.. really buggy.. anyone know a better one?
[11:18] <maxkelley> Klick_: have you restarted in a long time?
[11:18] <Seveas> Klick_, try apt-get clean and removing things from /tmp
[11:18] <Klick_> h36sa, i have it on my other box, but not gentoo, its beautiful!
[11:18] <cello_rasp> RollyW: i'm surprised you didnt try it under your old OS. I love GAIM :)
[11:18] <Rambo3> search backports
[11:18] <Klick_> thanks Seveas
[11:18] <maxkelley> yeah, that's what I meant.
[11:18] <ryan> ok im fairly illiterate when is comes to the ins and outs of this ubuntu thing
[11:18] <cello_rasp> you can even access IRC using GAIM
[11:18] <LjL> Rambo3: i don't see why not
[11:18] <Stormx2> why is k3b saying mp3 is an unsupported format ;_;
[11:18] <maxkelley> ryan: shoot yet again :)
[11:18] <h36sa> Klick_: I'm actually trying to get it for ubuntu
[11:19] <h36sa> I had it working on gentoo :P
[11:19] <trpr42> cello_rasp: no kidding. gaim-otr is the best plugin for it too. :)
[11:19] <ryan> how do i install programs that i download
[11:19] <ryan> nothing seems to work
[11:19] <Klick_> isnt it a bad idea to delete /tmp? cause all the temp stuff your using is located there, like gnome sessions and stuff
[11:19] <maxkelley> ryan: in what format?
[11:19] <RollyW> i know, gaim is teh shit! just soo much different.. I had 4 instances of it running before i realized i could have all chat programs interconnected
[11:19] <Seveas> !tell ryan about installing
[11:19] <cello_rasp> Stormx2? You didn't install the universe modules?
[11:19] <LjL> ryan: well, to start with, you *don't* download, unless strictly necessary :)
[11:19] <Klick_> h36sa, yah i had it running on gentoo also
[11:19] <LjL> !tell ryan about shortapt
[11:19] <maxkelley> there are no such thing as .exe :)
[11:19] <Seveas> ryan, ubotu sent you a link with some usefu information
[11:19] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: Universe Modules?
[11:19] <LinuxJones> Klick_: probably the software updates that have been downloaded.
[11:19] <ryan> thanks man
[11:19] <ryan> why dont download?
[11:19] <LjL> ryan: *first*, find if the program you need is in the repositories. only when you're *absolutely* sure it isn't there, start worrying about installing stuff that you download manually
[11:20] <Seveas> ryan, the package manager does the downloading for you
[11:20] <maxkelley> we need to make a perfect ramp: from windows-only to linux-noob
[11:20] <Klick_> LinuxJones, where are those located
[11:20] <Seveas> there are 16000+ packages in ubuntu - practically all you need
[11:20] <ryan> oh
[11:20] <maxkelley> LjL: make sure to tell him to select universe repos...
[11:20] <cello_rasp> Stormx2 ubuntu doesnt conme with mp3 support right off, you have to install them as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu?action=show
[11:20] <ryan> well for instance
[11:20] <LjL> maxkelley: done that
[11:20] <Stormx2> wait
[11:20] <Stormx2> got it
[11:20] <iBalo> Klick_: jaust 'sudo apt-get clean'
[11:20] <maxkelley> LjL: sexiness.
[11:20] <ryan> i selected all the repositories
[11:20] <ryan> they are all active
[11:20] <cello_rasp> Seveas: 15 gigs, right?
[11:20] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: I know that. I have MP3 support
[11:20] <Klick_> iBalo, did that still same size
[11:20] <maxkelley> ryan: sexiness.
[11:21] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: Turns out i need to install k3b-mp3... genius lol
[11:21] <cello_rasp> Stormx2: cool
[11:21] <LinuxJones> Klick_: in  /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:21] <ryan> but for instance i was trying to install Limwire
[11:21] <cello_rasp> ha
[11:21] <LinuxJones> Klick_: in  you can clean them out by doing sudo apt-get clean
[11:21] <ryan> ryan: sexiness?
[11:21] <Seveas> ryan, that's why I said practically
[11:21] <LjL> ryan: please check, by typing     apt-cache search .* | grep -c ""
[11:21] <RollyW> ok guys, im going to require a list of the essentials: 1) dvd ripping/burning software, 2)Torrent App, 3) world of warcraft capability?
[11:21] <maxkelley> ryan: try bittorrent... a bit of a different approach...
[11:21] <Seveas> !tell ryan about limewire
[11:21] <LjL> ryan: if that shows about 17000+ packages, then you have everything enabled
[11:21] <Seveas> ryan, ubotu gave you some information about limewire (ubotu is really helpful sometimes ;))
[11:21] <Klick_> LinuxJones, yah its empty, im guessing something else is filling up all the space
[11:21] <maxkelley> ryan: torrent app is already installed, Gnome BitTorrent Downloader
[11:21] <LjL> ryan: yeah limewire is not in the repositories, for some reasons. there are alternatives though
[11:22] <Seveas> LjL, the reasons being that it only works with non-free java
[11:22] <maxkelley> LjL: is limew in restricted?
[11:22] <maxkelley> ah
[11:22] <LinuxJones> Klick_: do you remember how much space you allocated to the root partition ?
[11:22] <Klick_> 9 gigs
[11:22] <ryan> is frostwire better?
[11:22] <LjL> Seveas: ok but it isn't in *any* repository, not even multiverse, is it?
[11:22] <maxkelley> frostwire>?
[11:22] <Klick_> and my base install was at 3, now its at 8
[11:22] <Seveas> ljl correct
[11:22] <cello_rasp> maxkelley: last time i did that the printer wasn't supported :\
[11:22] <Seveas> maybe I'll package it one day
[11:22] <ryan> it said something about consider frostwire instead
[11:22] <LinuxJones> Klick_: you have a seperate /home partition setup ?
[11:23] <maxkelley> Klick_: have you been shopping in synaptic again...?
[11:23] <Klick_> no, but i have a /data partition for storing mp3's and stuff
[11:23] <maxkelley> cello_rasp: yeah, but hardware support is becoming better and ebtter
[11:23] <maxkelley> better.
[11:23] <cello_rasp> we just need to go round the manufacturers with wiffle bats
[11:23] <maxkelley> hehe
[11:23] <maxkelley> whiffle bats and cranberry cakes.
[11:24] <iBalo> Klick, check your logs... either the logs are getting big thmeselves, or they might contain a hint on what's happening
[11:24] <maxkelley> well, the cakes would be for us to eat..
[11:24] <maxkelley> hmm
[11:24] <cello_rasp> i had an idea for a small usb device with serial and parallel ports all over it, with memory in it to upload windows drivers
[11:24] <Klick_> k, thanks will do .. ne more quick thing how do i tell a service like ssh to not start automaticaly
[11:24] <LinuxJones> Klick_: really the only things that change in the / dir are in the /var sub-directory, things like log files and whatnot. I can't see those taking up that much space.
[11:24] <maxkelley> hehe..
[11:25] <ryan> ok i have another question
[11:25] <maxkelley> the serial-usb-parallel-port-memory-thing.
[11:25] <Seveas> maxkelley, I'm the only one who gives those cloaks
[11:25] <Seveas> maxkelley, and they're on;y for Ubuntu members
[11:25] <LjL> LinuxJones: that *can* happen though, and it's one of the reasons people often put /var in a separate partition. if a program goes crazy, /var might easily overflow
[11:25] <maxkelley> Seveas: ah. well, all cloak-giving people have their own unique smilies :)
[11:25] <Stormx2> zomg k3b rawks!
[11:25] <maxkelley> Seveas: ahhh
[11:25] <RollyW> does ubuntu support dual monitors by anychance?
[11:25] <ryan> is there any other ap that works like limewire that is already in the repositories
[11:25] <Rawplayer> re
[11:25] <Seveas> fa
[11:25] <Seveas> la
[11:25] <Seveas> do
[11:25] <Stormx2> da
[11:25] <ryan> mi
[11:25] <cello_rasp> ryan there is a DC++ client but most hubs ban it
[11:25] <nickrud> !enter
[11:25] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:25] <nickrud> 
[11:25] <mzinz> I dowlnoaded the mp3 codecs, and mp3s (over a network) work in totem, but not in xmms... why?
[11:26] <LjL> sol diesis
[11:26] <maxkelley> RollyW: of course!
[11:26] <LinuxJones> Klick_: you can stop ssh from starting if you have a few mins I can tell you how.
[11:26] <cello_rasp> ryan I suggest running these things with wine
[11:26] <Stormx2> nickrud: Seveas will kickban your momma if you do that :P
[11:26] <Klick_> yeah go ahead
[11:26] <ryan> wine?
[11:26] <trpr42> ryan: apollon i think
[11:26] <RollyW> maxkelley: how?
[11:26] <cello_rasp> wine is a windows-linux compatibility layer
[11:26] <nickrud> Stormx2: been there, done that ;)
[11:26] <wicked_> hi does anyone knows about myspace... because i wanted to know wich package do i need to install to have the macromedia flash player to work properly
[11:26] <ryan> <---- has no idea how ubuntu works
[11:26] <Stormx2> nickrud: hehe
[11:26] <ryan> ok but if i use wine
[11:26] <maxkelley> RollyW: connect it, ehm... search the ubuntu wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:26] <cello_rasp> !ubotu tell ryan about wine
[11:26] <LinuxJones> LjL: on a desktop system a seperate /var/ dir is probably not necessary.
[11:26] <Klick_> LinuxJones, i dont want SSH/SAMBA/CUPS to start, but i want to keep them
[11:26] <Stormx2> ryan: Magic
[11:26] <iBalo> mzinz: tel xmms to use esd as output
[11:27] <nickrud> !flash
[11:27] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:27] <nickrud> wicked_: see the ubotu just above
[11:27] <LjL> cello_rasp: uh... but is limewire a DC++ client?
[11:27] <LjL> i mean, a DC client
[11:27] <cello_rasp> i don't think so, but it is filesharing
[11:27] <Stormx2> ryan: I *think* there are instructions for limewire in the wiki
[11:27] <Stormx2> !limewire
[11:27] <ubotu> first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila. Consider !frostwire as an alternative.
[11:27] <maxkelley> LjL: limew is a gnutella client
[11:27] <RollyW> hmm, when i say dual monitors, i mean... the computer recognizes it as one, a single desktop spread over 2 monitors....
[11:27] <ryan> ah
[11:27] <nickrud> !xinerama
[11:28] <ubotu> it has been said that xinerama is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=xinerama&titlesearch=Titles Hopefully, one of these works for you, and feedback is welcome
[11:28] <wicked_> !flash
[11:28] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:28] <GutterPunk> I installed Xgl and it works fine. But know when I start X I can't fall back to a tty ... it's blank
[11:28] <LjL> maxkelley, cello_rasp: thought so... there are many other gnutella (and other) clients on linux, i don't see any need at all to resort to wine!
[11:28] <Stormx2> ryan: UP! :D
[11:28] <cello_rasp> i have to say, wine is awesome
[11:28] <LinuxJones> Klick_: you can stop them from loading by doing sudo update-rc.d -f <scriptname in /etc/init.d/ > remove
[11:28] <maxkelley> LjL: yeah, me neither..
[11:28] <wicked_> well this doesnt tell me wich packag eto install :S
[11:28] <maxkelley> lie
[11:28] <maxkelley> limewire is ick
[11:28] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: When the damned thing works >.<
[11:28] <ryan> im just wondering if limewire is the best program
[11:28] <mzinz> iBalo, i dont see that as one of them.. i see 3 others tho
[11:28] <maxkelley> ryan: nah, barely.
[11:28] <ryan> of if there is a better ap
[11:28] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: You ever used IEs4Linux? That pwnz n00bz
[11:28] <trpr42> ryan: try apollon.. its in the repositories
[11:28] <LjL> ryan: i don't really know, 'cause i don't use Gnutella much.
[11:28] <ryan> ok
[11:28] <nickrud> wicked_: there might be some problems with your flash, that page tells how to install, and maybe fix if needed
[11:28] <LjL> ryan: but why don't you try typing "apt-cache search gnutella"?
[11:28] <mzinz> iBalo, OSS, esound, alsa, disk writer
[11:28] <Stormx2> !tell ryan about limewire
[11:28] <Klick_> LinuxJones, ahh cool ill try sounds sorta like how gentoo was rc-update del fileininit
[11:28] <maxkelley> go to gnutella.org go to clients, see what they have for linux
[11:28] <ryan> sweet ill give apollon a shot
[11:29] <cello_rasp> IE4Linux? You mean internet explorer for linux???
[11:29] <Stormx2> ryan: Check your messages from ubotu
[11:29] <maxkelley> AGH!
[11:29] <GutterPunk> and some keys don't work anymore :s like my @ key
[11:29] <iBalo> mzinz: esound (aka ESD)
[11:29] <maxkelley> why?
[11:29] <LinuxJones> Klick_: yeah more less :)
[11:29] <mzinz> iBalo, oh, thank you
[11:29] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: This app downloads and installs one or more of IE 5, IE 5.5 and IE 6. Emulates Win2K too so it looks pretty sweet, works flawlessly, and doesn't change your current wine settings
[11:29] <wicked_> i have a fresh install of ubuntu i only did the updates
[11:30] <ryan> i did
[11:30] <cello_rasp> awesome, is handy for web designers. but i do most of that on windows because of illustrator photoshop etc
[11:30] <ryan> and thanks
[11:30] <ryan> im going to give this apollon a shotsky
[11:30] <Stormx2> k3b is the sex =D Its so much better than gnomebaker or serpentine :P
[11:30] <progrock> sigh.... looks like im not going to have any luck getting my ati 64-bit drivers installed
[11:30] <cello_rasp> anything is better than serpentine, such as having a well organised library
[11:31] <wicked_> Coudn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[11:31] <wicked_> in terminal
[11:31] <koll2786> i prefer k3b
[11:31] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: You ever used GNOMAD2?
[11:31] <Seveas> wicked_, multiverse
[11:31] <ryan> so what exactly does wine do then?
[11:31] <nickrud> wicked_: then you really should read the restricted page, it'll tell you how to install all that nonfree stuff, and the repos to enable to get it
[11:31] <koll2786> it allow windows apps to be run on linux
[11:31] <ryan> ah
[11:31] <koll2786> but its very restrictive
[11:32] <ryan> i have windows installed already
[11:32] <Stormx2> ryan: wine is basicly a windows emulator, though they call it a "compatibility layer". I means you can run windows programs on linux, albeit with some luck
[11:32] <cello_rasp> ryan it provides windows apps with the certain resources they need under windows
[11:32] <ryan> on a different partition though
[11:32] <ryan> ah
[11:32] <TdC_VgA> why the weird firefox icon, that's all i want to know
[11:32] <wicked_> wow my bad
[11:32] <LjL> ryan: no, no need for a different partition
[11:32] <maxkelley> TdC_VgA: BECAUSE WE'RE SEXY OK.
[11:32] <wicked_> im sorry
[11:32] <maxkelley> Or, it fits with the gui
[11:32] <cello_rasp> TdC_VgA beat me, there is a guide on how to change it somewhere
[11:32] <koll2786> i find ot better to use a windows machine to run apps
[11:32] <wicked_> i didnt notice i havent activate multiverse
[11:32] <wicked_> thx guy
[11:32] <maxkelley> cello_rasp: get a new gnome icon set
[11:32] <ryan> you dont have to partition it?
[11:32] <TdC_VgA> maxkelley: sexy yes, confusing... yes too
[11:33] <Stormx2> cello_rasp: I once deleted all my icons >.<
[11:33] <TdC_VgA> ohh i hate that little world, i do love my little firefox though heh
[11:33] <koll2786> to bad no wine for ppc yet
[11:33] <LjL> ryan: no, you don't. you just install wine, and then click on "setup.exe" or whatever you need to install a window program. a window will pop up, and you can install and run the program
[11:33] <maxkelley> TdC_VgA: Yeah, I've found that among erm erm erm erm erm.. new linux tryer-outers
[11:33] <LjL> ryan: this of course only if all goes well. for most programs, it doesn't quite go so well
[11:33] <ryan> i get that
[11:33] <koll2786> use codeweavers crossover office
[11:33] <TdC_VgA> maxkelley: been on linux for 8 years lol... BSD user mostly
[11:33] <ryan> i like windows though
[11:33] <TdC_VgA> so linux i guess not
[11:33] <maxkelley> wine is a linux program that runs windows programs.
[11:34] <TdC_VgA> Solaris and BSD heh
[11:34] <Klick_> can anyone tell me what NFS-kernel-server does, im wondering if its safe to remove from startup, trying to speed up my machine a little
[11:34] <ryan> i use this basically as a way to surf a bit safer
[11:34] <cello_rasp> i hate music managers. in fact, it would be cool if there was an xmms plugin to keep track of how many times you play stuff
[11:34] <ryan> and as a place for word processing and such
[11:34] <maxkelley> TdC_VgA: hmmm.. I wasn't saying you were.. sorry for the stereotype, there's just so many new linux noobs that come in here..
[11:34] <Stormx2> wow
[11:34] <Klick_> i wish they would port ituned to linux
[11:34] <trpr42> maxkelley: well said. glad you didn't say emulate.. that word is meaningless the way it is used
[11:34] <LjL> ryan: hm, i'm not sure surfing with firefox under linux is any safer than doing it under windows
[11:34] <maxkelley> trpr42: hehe
[11:34] <cello_rasp> itunes is rubbish.. seriously
[11:34] <koll2786> I use Mac OS X day to day
[11:34] <ryan> well
[11:34] <Stormx2> k3b even plays a fanfare when the writing is done. Incase you hadn't noticed the cd tray pop out xD
[11:35] <Klick_> cello_rasp, why do you say that?
[11:35] <maxkelley> LjL: it is.. I got spyware using firefox on windows.
[11:35] <ryan> cant you still get viruses on windows
[11:35] <cello_rasp> slow, badly written, terrible UI
[11:35] <maxkelley> cello_rasp: itunes is nice.
[11:35] <ryan> yeah thats what i mean
[11:35] <Stormx2> maxkelley: Firefox on windows = slooooow
[11:35] <koll2786> stop visiting crack sites
[11:35] <maxkelley> ryan: still get viruses? duhhh!
[11:35] <ryan> yeah
[11:35] <ryan> well not on here
[11:35] <Seveas> ryan, you can get viruses on linux and mac too...
[11:35] <maxkelley> Stormx2: you bet! takes longer than ie
[11:35] <LjL> maxkelley, ryan: i can't really see how that could happen if you don't run .exe files that you download. which is something you *can't* altogether do with linux anyway (save wine)
[11:35] <nickrud> koll2786: how do we know (beforehand) which are the crack sites?
[11:35] <Stormx2> maxkelley: Indeed. I use K-Meleon on windows
[11:35] <ryan> well
[11:36] <ryan> im not the only one who uses this comp
[11:36] <koll2786> yes but a virus on linux or mac is pretty rare
[11:36] <cello_rasp> Apple can craft a nice PC case but they have no idea about Usability or program stability
[11:36] <Klick_> well, i dont know about the badly written part, but runs fast on my win machine, and in my humble opinion i think it looks beautiful, and very easy to find what your looking for
[11:36] <^Odd^> where are the streamtuner files on the hard drive in ubuntu?
[11:36] <ryan> so its hard for me to stop the stupidity of others
[11:36] <^Odd^> like the actuall app files
[11:36] <liskl> can anyone help me install just the base kernal and needed software to boot and use apt-get on a usb thumbdrive /dev/sda
[11:36] <nickrud> ^Odd^: dpkg -L streamtuner
[11:36] <koll2786> well nickrud
[11:36] <ryan> so on here its hard for someone to download something and mess up the comp again
[11:36] <nickrud> koll2786: ;P
[11:36] <colm> maxkelley, which spyware did you get via firefox on windows?  did you have activeX installed?
[11:36] <koll2786> searching per say windows xp serial
[11:36] <koll2786> can lead to keygen.us
[11:36] <LjL> liskl: ubuntu isn't intended for that sort of things. which is not to say you can't do it, but it
[11:37] <LjL> liskl: ubuntu isn't intended for that sort of things. which is not to say you can't do it, but it'll probably be much easier with some distro more specifically tailored to that kind of thing
[11:37] <koll2786> which if you use i.e than good luck trying to get spyware off
[11:37] <^Odd^> nickrud:  i have it installed but i was wondering how to tell mozilla where it is on my hard drive so that i can record some musica ^_^
[11:37] <ryan> LjlL: where is apollon after i install it
[11:37] <maxkelley> i grabbed and installed linux as soon as windows pissed me off to the point where it refused to boot
[11:37] <trpr42> ryan: i don't know where the menu entry is, but if you type apollon at a prompt, it will open
[11:37] <LjL> ryan: i haven't the slightest idea i'm sorry, i'm not even running ubuntu right now... best bet would probably to try typing "apollon" though
[11:38] <^Odd^> maxkelley:  good for you XD
[11:38] <maxkelley> i had been using it on another computer for experimenting, but not for actual desktop use
[11:38] <Stormx2> ryan: Check your applications menu. If its not there, Alt + F2 and type the name
[11:38] <ryan> typing it where
[11:38] <nickrud> ^Odd^: I don't think that streamtuner is meant for that, but dpkg -L streamtuner | grep bin gives you the executables
[11:38] <ryan> haha
[11:38] <mzinz> iBalo, for some reason, i have my network connection open with the mp3s: i drag them into totem, then drag the same ones into xmms.  they play in totem, but in xmms it just skips through all of them like they can't be found or something
[11:38] <koll2786> i merged my 2 partitions before and forgot to take grub off and that screwed my xp pro up
[11:38] <bajek> #ubuntupl
[11:38] <ryan> <-- computer illiterate
[11:38] <trpr42> ryan: lol. do what Stormx2 said
[11:38] <Stormx2> ryan: Press Alt + F2
[11:38] <Stormx2> ryan: Then type it in the dialog which pops up
[11:38] <maxkelley> wudatdoo?
[11:38] <maxkelley> :P
[11:39] <ryan> thanks
[11:39] <maxkelley> menu-xdg?
[11:39] <iBalo> mzinz: sorry, no idea what could cause that...
[11:39] <ryan> can i make a quick link on my desktop somehow
[11:39] <nickrud> maxkelley: try installing it, then killall gnome-panel, and look at the application menu
[11:39] <Stormx2> ryan: What do you mean?
[11:39] <ryan> like a shortcut
[11:39] <ryan> not for me
[11:39] <ryan> but like i said
[11:39] <colm> a symlink, yes
[11:39] <ryan> believe it or not
[11:40] <koll2786> xgl is a good idea, but novell was to little to late on designing it
[11:40] <maxkelley> right click on a program you want to "quick link" then click "create launcher on desktop" or something
[11:40] <LjL> ryan: apollon really should be in your apps menu now. if it isn't, i think just logging out and then back in will make it appear (happens often to me)
[11:40] <maxkelley> koll2786: yeah, true.. takes too much mem though.. and cpu
[11:40] <colm> open nautilus and then find what you want, then alt and drag to the desktop > create link
[11:40] <ryan> the other people using this comp know even less then i do
[11:40] <Stormx2> ryan: If you want to view the files on the desktop, theres a "View Desktop" thingy on the GNOME panel.
[11:40] <koll2786> and might possibly be removed as I'm sure apple patented the cube effect
[11:40] <maxkelley> ooh, ack.
[11:40] <ryan> ok thanks again
[11:41] <maxkelley> well, we'll do one in the shape of a penguin then.
[11:41] <koll2786> i ran a daily build of dapper
[11:41] <maxkelley> cool
[11:41] <ryan> this apollon isnt connecting either
[11:41] <koll2786> but
[11:41] <koll2786> the thing that gets me
[11:41] <maxkelley> ryan: you have to say the magic words.
[11:41] <ryan> abracadabra?
[11:41] <ryan> what no
[11:41] <maxkelley> ryan: no, please :)
[11:41] <ryan> ollie ollie oxenfrie
[11:41] <koll2786> is that breezy installs fine without need dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:42] <ryan> oh
[11:42] <koll2786> and dapper
[11:42] <koll2786> grr
[11:42] <maxkelley> wow, that was a big netsplit :P
[11:42] <ryan> please you godforsaken app work?
[11:42] <maxkelley> ryan: that could work.
[11:42] <frank23> who is responsible for the canadian mirrors? Is it ubuntu or are they donated by some institution?
[11:42] <ryan> unfortunately it didnt
[11:42] <gareth_> Anyone here have Xgl+Compiz working? Just wanted to vent how amazed I am at how great my desktop looks now :D
[11:42] <nickrud> frank23: donated
[11:42] <nickrud> gareth_: pretty, yes
[11:43] <koll2786> ya i change the canadian mirrors to us
[11:43] <LjL> gareth_: i got them to work, yeah, and then uninstalled them
[11:43] <evilbulgarian> hi, i have python2.4-cheetah installed on ubuntu but for some reason in /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Cheetah there is no CacheRegion.py so i copied it over from a slackware install and am wondering if thats ok to do?
[11:43] <frank23> nickrud: ok I can't complain too lously then ;)
[11:43] <ryan> anyone have an idea as to why apollon wont connect for me?
[11:43] <gareth_> they're unstable as heck on my ati, but here on my old nvidia geforce its rock solid
[11:43] <Klick_> hey all i just noticed in my services that im runnin klogd, and ALSO sysklogd is that right or should i only run one
[11:43] <trpr42> ryan: what was the setup process like. did it complain about finding the giFT installation?
[11:43] <nickrud> it's a simple script to switch back and forth between xgl & normal. Haven't gone back though, except to show it off
[11:43] <maxkelley>  evilbulgarian: if it works, then who cares ? :P
[11:43] <ryan> yes
[11:43] <ryan> it did
[11:44] <ryan> which means?
[11:44] <maxkelley> did what?
[11:44] <evilbulgarian> maxkelley: well the thing is that i bypassed the error about CacheRegion.py but now the script looks like its seg faulting from apache's error.log
[11:44] <LjL> complain about gift i s'pose :)
[11:44] <ryan> complained about gift whateve
[11:44] <ryan> yeah
[11:44] <ryan> is there something i should do to fix that
[11:44] <maxkelley> evilbulgarian: errg.
[11:44] <vladuz976> anybody know a good place to get web design templates from?
[11:45] <trpr42> ryan: there is a gift package in the repositories i think
[11:45] <ryan> ok ill give it a shot
[11:45] <LjL> ryan: sudo aptitude install gift
[11:46] <wankstar> i can't partition my drive.. doesn't have a "free space" selection, any ideas?
[11:46] <koll2786> i find
[11:46] <ryan> sudo aptitude?
[11:46] <ryan> im sure i have no idea what that means
[11:46] <delmar> yikes. now the package manager doesn't load anymore.
[11:46] <nickrud> wankstar: you'll need to either resize your ntfs, or delete a partition
[11:46] <delmar> ubuntu is realyl starting to get on my nerves.
[11:46] <wankstar> nickrud: aight
[11:46] <koll2786> well
[11:47] <LjL> ryan: "sudo" makes a command execute with root priviledges. "aptitude" is a program that lets you download/install/etc packages. "install" is the command to install. "gift" is the package name that you need
[11:47] <koll2786> lets just say ubuntu ppc on a imac g3 350mhz well dont install
[11:47] <LjL> !tell ryan about shortapt
[11:47] <koll2786> unless you want your cd's reading in the slot drive
[11:47] <delmar> all this fancy front end...and im still using the damn command line for butt loads. not sure what im gaining from ubuntu at all at this point.
[11:48] <me2win> use kubuntu!
[11:48] <LjL> delmar: so, have you gotten breezy in the end?
[11:48] <me2win> KDE2WIN!
[11:48] <koll2786> kde?
[11:48] <koll2786> LOL
[11:48] <ryan> ok so i downloaded it
[11:48] <koll2786> no thanks
[11:48] <me2win> kde > gnome
[11:48] <ryan> i still dont get the sudo think
[11:48] <LjL> ryan: you know there is an "Administrator" user on Windows?
[11:48] <nickrud> !tell ryan about sudo
[11:48] <koll2786> i will only use kde when it becomes a less resource hog
[11:48] <ryan> right ok?
[11:48] <delmar> LjL, yep. downloaded the .ISO and did a fresh install... updated.. uncommented/enabled the extra sources... more updates...
[11:49] <koll2786> i found kde to be more ram heavy
[11:49] <delmar> LjL, the desktop totally hung once... could still ssh in and restart the box tho.
[11:49] <LjL> ryan: it's the same on linux (except stricter, usually). that's called the "root" user. ubuntu has a peculiar policy about it: contrary to most other Linux distro, the actual "root" user is disabled, and instead you must prefix "sudo" to commands in order to make them execute as root
[11:49] <koll2786> o gawd gaim?
[11:49] <ryan> ok
[11:49] <koll2786> when is beta 3 or 2.0 coming?
[11:49] <delmar> LjL, but i have upgraded the kernel and nvidia drivers and stuff since then
[11:49] <ryan> so what do i type in to execute the gift as a root user
[11:50] <LjL> delmar: things that happen, but they don't quite happen as often here as you make it sound... in any case, have you at least stopped getting gamin or whatever hogging your CPU?
[11:50] <trpr42> ryan: you want to install the gift package.. the command would be: sudo apt-get install gift
[11:50] <delmar> LjL, just restarted the desktop and the SPM works again now.. (sigh)
[11:50] <trpr42> ryan: then when apollon launches and asks where the installation is, browse to /usr/share/gift
[11:50] <LjL> ryan: you *don't* execute it as root. "sudo aptitude install gift" is needed to *install* it
[11:50] <LjL> ryan: to install programs, you need to be root. to execute them, most of the time, you *should not* use root
[11:51] <delmar> LjL, that im not sure about... there does seem to be far too much CPU load when I move files from one HDD to another HDD (sata to or from ide both 133).
[11:51] <delmar> but at least they seem to scream between them
[11:51] <LjL> ryan: anyway, i don't think you really need to *run* gift, as i think that Apollon will simply *use* gift to let you connect to the gnutella network
[11:51] <koll2786> ubuntu is not very good for gaming
[11:51] <ryan> right
[11:51] !lilo:*! Turtle test.
[11:51] <ryan> but it says that gift isnt installed
[11:51] <ryan> thats my problem
[11:51] <ryan> i download it
[11:51] <ryan> and it says it installed
[11:51] <LjL> ryan: and as i said, "sudo aptitude install gift" will install it
[11:51] <koll2786> I ran ut goty on it and my max screen was like 800*600 at 16 colors
[11:51] !lilo:*! Complete.
[11:52] <ryan> and i type that where?
[11:52] <LjL> ryan: in a console?
[11:52] <trpr42> ryan: ok.. now run apollon again.. when it complains, browse to /usr/share/giFT .. click ok.
[11:52] <LjL> !tell ryan about cli
[11:52] <nickrud> delmar: change the colors of the system monitor, you may see that a lot of that load is io-wait, not actuall cpu usage
[11:52] <delmar> LjL, so perhaps the CPU load when im copying the file... is being caused by something else like that gamin.. or perhaps its just a shit mobo that hogs CPU because it has el-cheap'o disk controler on-board. /shrug
[11:52] <ryan> ok so it says
[11:52] <ryan> where is your gift
[11:53] <ryan> on my screen right now
[11:53] <trpr42> right. its in /usr/share/giFT
[11:53] <ryan> now where do i go
[11:53] <delmar> nickrud, interesting. ok. ill try that in a sec.
[11:53] <ryan> how do i get to that
[11:53] <odat> anyone using the weather applet?
[11:53] <trpr42> so look for usr in the list. click on it. then look for share in that sublist.. then giFT in that sublist.. just selecting a directory
[11:53] <colm> yes, -1 cloudy
[11:53] <LjL> delmar: tried hdparm? if DMA or something is disabled, your CPU will take a lot more load than necessary
[11:53] <delmar> nickrud, change the colors u say. if it was april 1st id think u are joking.. change them to what?
[11:54] <ryan> ok i think i did that
[11:54] <ryan> what are those other gift things for?
[11:54] <nickrud> delmar: I was assuming you were using the cpu monitor on the upper bar; right click -> preferences, and you can choose colors other than blue
[11:54] <mkyb14> hellow
[11:54] <delmar> LjL, yeah i havent used hdparm in so long I can't remember the commands and man hdparm confuses me :P lol. how can i simple get hdparm to show me what things are setup for...
[11:54] <ryan> and i did that and its still not connecting
[11:54] <mikebot> does anyone here know what dc++ is?
[11:55] <trpr42> ryan: give it a few minutes.. took a while for me at least
[11:55] <delmar> nickrud, no.. was using the System Monitor thing
[11:55] <LjL> delmar: "sudo hdparm /dev/whatever" will show you the basic settings, and "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/whatever" will test the drive's speed
[11:55] <odat> anyone using the weather panel applet?
[11:55] <delmar> nickrud, ive never used gnome so.. adding toys to my bars and desktop and stuff is all new..
[11:55] <ryan> ok ill let it run a bit
[11:55] <ryan> thanks a lot
[11:55] <nickrud> delmar: it should already be on your bar, it's standard.
[11:56] <frank23> mikebot: its a dcc client
[11:56] <delmar> LjL, well for my sata it doesnt say much.. but i get this output....
[11:56] <delmar>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[11:56] <delmar>  readonly     =  0 (off)
[11:56] <delmar>  readahead    = 256 (on)
[11:56] <delmar>  geometry     = 14593/255/63, sectors = 234441648, start = 0
[11:56] <LjL> delmar: err, please don't paste here
[11:56] <mkyb14> are there anyway that you can use a client like aim with in the terminal?  or do you have to have a gui?
[11:57] <LjL> delmar: anyway, if i'm not mistaken, that *does not* sound good
[11:57] <mikebot> frank23: yeah, i used it on windows, and tried running it with wine, and it worked, but i couldn't upload files (cause all my mp3s are on an ntfs partition)
[11:57] <ryan> well guys
[11:57] <eddi3> I have a problem, I started messing around with my partitions and completely screwed it up, I then tried reinstalling ubuntu but when I try to boot up, it can't start X and it stays in console. I was wondering how I can fix this
[11:57] <ryan> i think im hungry now
[11:57] <mikebot> frank23: is there any way around this
[11:57] <delmar> LjL, well it was only 4 lines.. much more and id use pastbin.
[11:57] <ryan> so i appriciate all the advice
[11:57] <frank23> mikebot: you can run dc++ natively in linux
[11:57] <ryan> ill be back later with some more stupid questions
[11:57] <ryan> take care
[11:57] <delmar> LjL, no... get this...doing hdparm /dev/hda ... i notice a few extra things... such as...
[11:57] <LjL> delmar: don't you even have a "using_dma" line?
[11:57] <frank23> mikebot: the instructions to get it installed are in the forums
[11:58] <delmar> LjL, IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
[11:58] <delmar> using_dma    =  1 (on)
[11:58] <mikebot> !dc++
[11:58] <mikebot> frank23: okay, thanks
[11:58] <LjL> delmar: which drive did you try before /dev/hda?
[11:58] <colm> odat, are you having a problem with the weather applet?
[11:58] <frank23> mikebot: do you have access to that ntfs partition in linux?
[11:58] <mikebot> frank23: but can i upload files from an ntfs partition?
[11:58] <delmar> LjL, /dev/sda
[11:58] <mikebot> frank23: yes
[11:58] <LjL> delmar: which is your SATA drive? (sorry, never had a SATA drive, don't quite know how they work)
[11:58] <odat> colm, i can't get the forecast tab to appear
[11:59] <frank23> mikebot: I think so...  you dont have write access on ntfs but it should still work I think. oh did you try to run the program from ntfs? directly from the ntfs drive
[11:59] <mkyb14> is there such a thing as aim from the terminal?? or do i need to install a gui?
[11:59] <delmar> LjL, sata is like a scsi in linux.. so its /dev/sda
[11:59] <Arclite> I just got 50 x86 ShipIt CDs in the mail I don't remember ordering.
[11:59] <colm> odat, so the icon, current conditions, and radar map are ok but forecast is blank?
[11:59] <LjL> delmar: google for "hdparm howto", there's a long tutorial on Gentoo's wiki -- yes i did say *gentoo*, so be careful (not 'cause it's another distribution, but 'cause it's *gentoo* ;)
[11:59] <Mersault> where do I get mod_env for apache2 for ubuntu? I apparently need it for mythweb...
[11:59] <mikebot> frank23: no, it's an exe
[11:59] <eddi3> I have a problem, I started messing around with my partitions and completely screwed it up, I then tried reinstalling ubuntu but when I try to boot up, it can't start X and it stays in console. I was wondering how I can fix this