[12:07] <_b> therer are more gui s ?, what is knaptic then ?
[12:09] <frank23> _b: breezy has adept by default instead of kynaptic I think
[12:10] <arcanistherogue> it does?
[12:10] <arcanistherogue> i use kynaptic
[12:10] <arcanistherogue> i never have even ran adept before
[12:10] <kywonder> someone help me a little with syntax? im in file manager for xubuntu and i need to set run action to like mplayer cue://file.cue:2.  mplayer "$@" works for regular avi files but cant figure this out not kubuntu problem i know but..?
[12:10] <frank23> I dont like kynaptic. synaptic is much better
[12:11] <_b> what the diffrence i thought K was just kde apatation from gnome -synaptic or something ?
[12:12] <reagleBRKLN> i just built a deb for kdesvn, but its very verbose on the commandline, which option tells it to be less verbose?
[12:12] <ClayG> anyone heard of FIDOnet
[12:13] <reagleBRKLN> claydoh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidonet
[12:13] <reagleBRKLN> used it back in the day
[12:13] <arcanistherogue> cjayg
[12:13] <arcanistherogue> thats witty.
[12:14] <_jon> Im trying to run nomachine server on my linux computer, ther source should be "deb
[12:14] <me2win> does photoshop work under wine?
[12:14] <_jon> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas freenx"
[12:14] <Hairulfr> Hello all
[12:14] <_jon> hi
[12:15] <Hairulfr> With kubuntu 5.10 - is kde 3.5x includede?
[12:15] <me2win> !photoshop
[12:15] <ubotu> me2win: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:15] <me2win> !wine
[12:16] <frank23> _b: you have many more options in synaptic. kynaptic looks pretty simple compared to it
[12:16] <frank23> Hairulfr: kubuntu 5.10 has kde 3.4.3 by default but its very easy to install kde 3.5
[12:16] <Hairulfr> And, on a second note, I've DLed the PPC version, I wonder if anyone know wether it's able to setup Yaboot itself, like Yellow Dog is+ (because I crap at mac, coz mac is being crap back at me, the bootloader is awful, for me, anyway)
[12:17] <_jon> #freenx
[12:17] <_jon> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas freenx
[12:17] <_jon> why doesnt this work?
[12:17] <Hairulfr> frank23: Thank you, that would be using sudo apt-get
[12:17] <Hairulfr> ?
[12:17] <frank23> !kde351
[12:17] <ubotu> frank23: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:18] <_b> im looking at it at http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/action.html the "tree" looks more separated
[12:18] <frank23> !kde 3.5.1
[12:18] <ubotu> from memory, kde 3.5.1 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[12:18] <_b> no sorted out is more propper word
[12:19] <_jon> This is the source but it says it cant get the files some files when i type "apt-get update" in konsole why?
[12:19] <_jon> #freenx
[12:19] <_jon> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas freenx
[12:20] <frank23> _jon: try http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl instead of http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:21] <_jon> frank23 ok\
[12:22] <kywonder> _jon: or see the wiki.ubuntu page for freenx there are instructions for adding key on that page
[12:22] <_jon> ok
[12:24] <_jon> um ok i went wiki.ubuntu and i found the freenx part but the page they give instructions for adding  a key doesnt work
[12:25] <kywonder> _jon: one sec
[12:25] <_jon> ok
[12:25] <Extreme_Unction> Can anyone enlighten me on how to allow the sound server (ALSA -- in this case) to let multiple applications play sound at one time?
[12:27] <kywonder> _jon: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ see the section entitled authenticated packages
[12:27] <visik7> Extreme_Unction: alsa is not the sound server
[12:27] <Extreme_Unction> Well, my mistake.
[12:27] <visik7> Extreme_Unction: btw
[12:27] <_jon> k
[12:27] <Extreme_Unction> Anyways, I think you can understand the concept here.
[12:27] <visik7> btw alsa should support by default multiple audio out
[12:27] <visik7> at least on card that support it
[12:28] <FliesLikeABrick> anyone here use kontact?
[12:28] <visik7> check out that u are not using oss layer providedwith alsa
[12:28] <Extreme_Unction> How?
[12:28] <visik7> Extreme_Unction: by default
[12:28] <visik7> just works
[12:28] <visik7> how to check ?
[12:28] <Extreme_Unction> Yeah
[12:28] <_jon> hah awesome thanks
[12:28] <scrondle> Yes, I am using Kontact.
[12:28] <FliesLikeABrick> scrondle  do you use the calendar thing?
[12:28] <Extreme_Unction> My card supports it, for sure.
[12:29] <visik7> remove snd_pcm_oss from module loaded and try if the app still works
[12:29] <blanky> hey guys
[12:29] <me2win> sup blanky
[12:29] <scrondle> I do use the calendar thing, what's up?
[12:29] <blanky> I installed kubuntu and everything is great, video card drivers, etc. But everything still looks really big lol, hello me2win
[12:29] <FliesLikeABrick> you know the "What's next" feature?
[12:29] <Extreme_Unction> blanky:Higher resolution?
[12:29] <me2win> blanky: what is your resolution?
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> something is really weird when I set recurring events, like my course schedule and work schedule
[12:30] <blanky> Ex-Cyber, I'll try, I'm stupid I forgot that rofl!
[12:30] <scrondle> Yes?
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> I think I'm doing something wrong and I really want to use this program to organize my week
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> the What's next is all out of ord
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> er
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> order*
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> it isn't in order by day or time or anything with my recurring events
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> I need to figure out what I did wrong
[12:30] <scrondle> Hmm. Let me see what it looks like on my machine?
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> k
[12:30] <blanky> actually, guys, I have 1280x1024 and everything still looks kinda too big
[12:30] <FliesLikeABrick> What's Next is the one feature that would be most helpful to me
[12:31] <me2win> how big is your monitor?
[12:31] <FliesLikeABrick> blanky change your appearance/theme settings and fonts
[12:31] <blanky> FliesLikeABrick, thanks sir, I'll look that up
[12:31] <FliesLikeABrick> make window titles and borders smaller
[12:31] <blanky> FliesLikeABrick, thanks sir
[12:31] <FliesLikeABrick> and you'll feel like you have less wasted space
[12:32] <scrondle> It appears to be working fine here.
[12:32] <FliesLikeABrick> do you have recurring events?
[12:32] <scrondle> Yes, tons of them.
[12:32] <FliesLikeABrick> heh
[12:32] <FliesLikeABrick> exactly how did you set them up?
[12:32] <_phantom> hello all!  i'm new here, and new to Kubuntu, and kinda a Linux noob.
[12:32] <FliesLikeABrick> I think what is messing up mine is the start/end date
[12:33] <blanky> FliesLikeABrick, I made border size tiny, it's good but what about window titles, where do i change that, nevermind i'll look for it
[12:33] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah blanky  just look through all the appearance and other settings
[12:33] <scrondle> I just went in thru the calendar itself.
[12:33] <blanky> ah I found it thanks sir
[12:33] <FliesLikeABrick> tweak everything you want
[12:33] <blanky> Thanks
[12:33] <scrondle> Usually through the monthly view
[12:33] <blanky> Thanks, how can I change all of the text on everything, well not everything but for example the default text, like this text I'm typing now into xchat, it's very big
[12:33] <blanky> would that be General?
[12:34] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah scrondle  then that new event window
[12:34] <_phantom> anyone run an nVidia 6800GT or other nVidia cards with Kubuntu?
[12:34] <scrondle> Yup.
[12:34] <FliesLikeABrick> in the "date and time" frame, what do you put for start and end?
[12:34] <_phantom> did you have any problems installing the nVidia program for glx under Kubuntu?
[12:34] <scrondle> Almost always the start and end date are the same
[12:34] <blanky> FliesLikeABrick, ?
[12:35] <FliesLikeABrick> I'm talking to scrondle BlueDevil
[12:35] <FliesLikeABrick> blanky *
[12:35] <Extreme_Unction> I run 6600GT
[12:35] <Extreme_Unction> What's the problem?
[12:35] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah scrondle  should I just leave them what they say and then set up the recurrence?
[12:35] <blanky> FliesLikeABrick, yeah I know, but how may I change the normal font, like for example this font for this text I'm typing in into xchat, it's really big
[12:35] <blanky> also how may I change my default browser (from konquerer to firefox)(
[12:36] <FliesLikeABrick> blanky click the K menu, and go to System Settings
[12:36] <FliesLikeABrick> there's a page for fonts settings
[12:36] <FliesLikeABrick> and appearance settings
[12:36] <FliesLikeABrick> and tons of other stuff
[12:36] <_phantom> Extreme --> just wondering if there were any problems installing it.  i'm using the stock 2.6.12 kernel and it keeps erroring out cause i don't have the kernel source.  tried to get the kernel source, but i can't find it anywhere with apt-get.
[12:36] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick my usual MO is to double click the monthly view, set the time, and then go to the recurrence tab.
[12:36] <FliesLikeABrick> just look around for more than 3 seconds and you'll find what you want
[12:36] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah scrondle  so did I :-/
[12:36] <blanky> FliesLikeABrick, oh well thanks I'll look around :)
[12:36] <Extreme_Unction> phantom
[12:36] <Extreme_Unction> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:36] <Extreme_Unction> then do
[12:36] <_phantom> Extreme --> tried apt-get install kernel-source to get a listing, but it says that there is nothing available.
[12:36] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick I hate it when that happens.
[12:37] <Extreme_Unction> nvidia-glx-settings enable in console and it will auto configure x windows settings to run it
[12:37] <Extreme_Unction> after you get it from apt
[12:37] <Extreme_Unction> [18:36]  <Extreme_Unction> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:37] <_phantom> Extreme --> oh?  will that install the latest software for our cards?
[12:37] <Extreme_Unction> Well..
[12:37] <Extreme_Unction> Close enough to the latest..
[12:37] <_phantom> hmm...  ok.  worth a try.  thanks!
[12:38] <Extreme_Unction> sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings for the settings panel btw
[12:38] <_phantom> oh?  setting panel too?  nice!
[12:38] <_phantom> oh!  one more thing
[12:38] <me2win> anyone use kbfx?
[12:38] <FliesLikeABrick> any ideas scrondle ?
[12:38] <_phantom> what's the default root password for Kubuntu?
[12:38] <Extreme_Unction> you have to set it
[12:38] <Extreme_Unction> sudo passwd
[12:38] <Extreme_Unction> in console
[12:38] <_phantom> oh.
[12:38] <_phantom> ok
[12:38] <_phantom> i'm used to setting it during install.
[12:38] <Extreme_Unction> sudo passwd, should ask you for your user pass, then it will say
[12:38] <Extreme_Unction> "Enter new UNIX password"
[12:39] <Extreme_Unction> That's it right there.
[12:39] <_phantom> and that will be the new root password?
[12:39] <blanky> last question FliesLikeABrick
[12:39] <Extreme_Unction> yes
[12:39] <scrondle> Not really. I've certainly had a Kontact act weird a few times. Have you tried creating a new Resource and seeing if it has the same problem?
[12:39] <blanky> how may I change my default browser from konquerer to firefox? where in the system settings panel
[12:39] <FliesLikeABrick> scrondle  new resource?
[12:40] <FliesLikeABrick> blanky "resource account" --> "default applications"
[12:40] <FliesLikeABrick> please look next time
[12:40] <Extreme_Unction> _phantom: It may be the newest driver, I don't really check for 6600GT is pretty much updated to the max.
[12:40] <blanky> *resource account*
[12:40] <blanky> nevermind I'll shut up then
[12:40] <_phantom> Extreme -->  thanks for your help.  it's nice to know there's somewhere i can go for answers and not get blown off.
[12:41] <Extreme_Unction> No problem.. It's a pretty nice community here - a few faghats.
[12:41] <_phantom> hehe.  well that's everywhere i'm afraid.
[12:41] <_phantom> anyway, thanks a lot. about to restart X to get the settings for nvidia working.  thanks again!
[12:41] <Extreme_Unction> Lol, though you'll probably notice the majority of active users here join, ask one question, and leave until they have another.
[12:41] <Extreme_Unction> No problem.
[12:42] <Hairulfr> I'm not even a user yet :)
[12:42] <echdev> learned my lesson the hard way!
[12:43] <echdev> dont change the splash screen to Default if you intend on using the machine again :P
[12:43] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick Were you able to solve your problem?
[12:44] <FliesLikeABrick> scrondle  no, hold on I'm taking a screenshot of it just to make sure you and I are on the same page
[12:44] <scrondle> O.k.
[12:44] <FliesLikeABrick> scrondle  http://ryan.troy.u13.net/snapshot5.png
[12:45] <Extreme_Unction> I wish they'd include JDK 1.5.0/1.6.0 beta from SUN instead of GIJ, sure it's faster and all but compatibility sucks with alot of more complex thing :\
[12:45] <Hairulfr> I heard a *rumor* or what it was , about so "racy" pics in ubuntu / kubuntu - what is the "source" for that - or is it the real deal? (not my reason for changing though...lol)
[12:46] <FliesLikeABrick> Hairulfr  I don't know about everyone else, but I have no idea what you're talking about
[12:46] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick If you right click on the default resource in the window, you can select add > calendar in local file. See if when you add events to that, if you have the same problem.
[12:47] <Hairulfr> Hehe, yeah, well... I don't really remember how the thing went
[12:47] <FliesLikeABrick> you see what I'm talking about though, right scrondle ?
[12:47] <Extreme_Unction> Wow, I've totally voided actually looking, for a quick answer.. Is the default filesystem for kubuntu EXT2, EXT3, ReiserFS or other?
[12:47] <Extreme_Unction> EXT2, isn't it?
[12:47] <FliesLikeABrick> ext3
[12:47] <Extreme_Unction> ahhh
[12:47] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick I do see your problem.
[12:47] <_jon> I am having a difficult time trying to get freenx working
[12:48] <FliesLikeABrick> k scrondle  trying what you said now
[12:48] <dutch> how do I configure a printer ?
[12:48] <_jon> i added it to my source.list
[12:48] <_jon> i type sudo apt-get update into console it updated
[12:48] <frank23> Hairulfr: those were wallpapers. they weren't that bad.
[12:48] <FliesLikeABrick> scrondle what "Calendar Format" are you using for your resources?
[12:48] <_jon> i type apt-get install it installed ntohgin
[12:48] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick let me check.
[12:49] <Hairulfr> frank23: Right!
[12:49] <Hairulfr> Hehe
[12:49] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick iCalendar
[12:49] <FliesLikeABrick> same
[12:49] <frank23> Hairulfr: they're in the ubuntu-calendar-* packages
[12:49] <Extreme_Unction> I have two questions:
[12:50] <Hairulfr> frank23: I'm not running it yet - need to get the mac bootthingy fixed, and that, apparantly, can only be done with a Osx install cd....
[12:50] <Extreme_Unction> Upon loading powernowd, I ran across a problem. I don't have the cpufreq drivers most likely. /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq is missing.. Anyone know where I can grab this?
[12:50] <frank23> Hairulfr: I dont know anything about that
[12:51] <_b> for some reason i got 2 dev directories i guess .dev is somkinda backup or something ?
[12:51] <_jon> can anyone help me get no machine working?
[12:51] <Hairulfr> fran:Yeah, who would want to... the idiotic way thats it's made
[12:51] <Hairulfr> frank23:
[12:51] <Extreme_Unction> Secondly, on Ubuntu (Using Gnome) I had to edit Asound.conf to achieve mulitple sounds at a time. I can't get it running on Kubuntu, what must I do..? Each sound, indivisually, works fine.
[12:51] <Hairulfr> _jon: probably :)
[12:51] <FliesLikeABrick> scrondle  it looks like it might be working in the new resource
[12:52] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick That's good. Does that solve it for you?
[12:52] <_jon> Hairulfr: ok i added the source to the source list and type apt-get update
[12:52] <FliesLikeABrick> scrondle  let me finish putting my events back in and I'll let you know
[12:52] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick O.k.
[12:53] <Hairulfr> _jon: Soz - I was joking - you wrote get NO machine working - not installing kubuntu before my Mac lives again..or boots
[12:53] <NRG88> anyone know openoffice?
[12:53] <_jon> Hairulfr: -.-
[12:53] <NRG88> i need some help at the margin setup
[12:54] <Hairulfr> _jon: Sorry man - but i bet someone here can
[12:54] <Hairulfr> What is the problem?
[12:54] <_jon> sry accidently closed
[12:54] <FliesLikeABrick> nope scrondle  its back... it looks like it has a problem with when I set a recurrence to happen on more than one day
[12:54] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick Let me try that.
[12:54] <Extreme_Unction> Anyone know how to fix my queestion?
[12:55] <NRG88> how to set the measurement in openoffice to centimeters?
[12:55] <FliesLikeABrick> like scrondle  I just started setting up my class schedule, I set up a couple classes to go on Monday and Thursday, one after the other each day
[12:55] <FliesLikeABrick> it looks like it pairs them together
[12:56] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick I'll try it just like that. hold on.
[12:57] <_fred> oops..
[12:59] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick Same behavior here. You most likely need to make them seperate events.
[12:59] <Crashoverride> k
[12:59] <FliesLikeABrick> ah ok scrondle  thanks very much
[12:59] <FliesLikeABrick> will do
[12:59] <scrondle> FliesLikeABrick No problem.
[01:00] <Crashoveride> ok
[01:00] <Crashoveride> can i chat with someone privately about adding sources/apt-get etc?
[01:01] <Crashoveride> I wanna know how to get freenx working, and im having a difficult time
[01:02] <FliesLikeABrick> scrondle  any idea how to turn off the 24 hour clock in kontact?
[01:03] <Crashoveride> i need help getting the "sudo apt-get update" to work properly
[01:04] <Crashoveride> can anyone hear me?
[01:04] <_rich> using breezy and noticed that /dev is mounted with ramfs. why not tmpfs like the rest of the distros?
[01:05] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Crashoveride  it would help if you told us what your problem was
[01:06] <Crashoveride> ok i added the source to the source.list and then opened konsole and type sudo apt-get update and it wont connect to the source and download freenx
[01:06] <Extreme_Unction> Is there some light-weight editor I can use? Kate refuses to run ... sudo kate /bla.txt
[01:07] <xiO__> nano is easy
[01:07] <Extreme_Unction> ok
[01:07] <FliesLikeABrick> gedit/kedit too
[01:09] <Extreme_Unction> What's the hotkey to save in nano?
[01:09] <xiO__> ctrl+o
[01:10] <xiO__> ctrl+x to exit
[01:12] <frank23> Extreme_Unction: you cant use kate with sudo. it makes kate crash
[01:13] <frank23> Extreme_Unction: you have to do kdesu kate instead
[01:14] <Crashoveride> ok im gonna past some text in here , pelase tell me wuts wrong with it
[01:14] <Crashoveride> ailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/Release.gpg  Could not connect to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (83.160.7.26). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:14] <Crashoveride> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/freenx/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not connect to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (83.160.7.26). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[01:14] <Crashoveride> Reading package lists... Done
[01:14] <Crashoveride> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas/freenx Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/seveas.ubuntulinux.nl_dists_breezy-seveas_freenx_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:14] <Crashoveride> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[01:14] <Crashoveride> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:15] <frank23> Crashoveride: dont paste like that.
[01:15] <frank23> Crashoveride: next try   mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl instead as a source
[01:15] <Crashoveride> k ty
[01:22] <_nir> hi , what it the location of konq , i need to sprcify a location for flash player setup...
[01:22] <gilianima> hi
[01:23] <gilianima> is it possible to change the background color of quanta ?
[01:25] <gamma> _nir: you can put the plugin in .mozilla/plugins
[01:25] <gamma> and then scan for new plugins
[01:29] <frank23> _nir: did you install flashplayer-mozilla?
[01:32] <Crashoveride> frank: it disconnected emf or pasting that
[01:32] <Crashoveride> me for*
[01:32] <frank23> yeah I noticed.
[01:33] <Crashoveride> how do i log back in?
[01:33] <frank23> oh
[01:34] <frank23> *    /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[01:36] <tamzarian> Can someone help me?
[01:36] <tamzarian> with kubuntu
[01:36] <_nir> just ask
[01:36] <tamzarian> I can't get anything I plug in to work
[01:36] <tamzarian> it seems that only things from a CD will work
[01:37] <tamzarian> let me look at the error really quick
[01:38] <tamzarian> it says
[01:38] <tamzarian> An error occured while loading media:/sde1
[01:38] <tamzarian> could not find folder
[01:38] <tamzarian> or something similar to that at least
[01:38] <tamzarian> so I cant use my USB devices (like my iPod shuffle and my internet thing)
[01:38] <tamzarian> :(
[01:39] <tamzarian> ok, im gonna try the ubuntu irc
[01:40] <vandal> lol he signed off to join the other channel...
[01:40] <_b> i dont think u can mount ipod as a mobile storage device or am i wrong ?
[01:41] <vandal> i have never tried
[01:41] <_b> the noname players got better support
[01:42] <_b> http://ihome.ust.hk/~twwong/mp0578b.jpg
[01:43] <_b> i saw this nano copy
[01:43] <vandal> cool
[01:43] <_b> i wonder what the price is for that in hong kong, there is no name on it so it hard to track down
[01:54] <scrondle> Hello everyone. I could use some advice. My system just went down with an error message about my file system being read only. I am booted from a live cd, and I am trying to figure out what to do next.
[01:55] <vandal> your system was running fine?
[01:55] <exobuzz> fsck /dev/[partition] 
[01:56] <scrondle> How do I mount the drive from a live cd?
[01:56] <scrondle> vandal Yes, it was running great.
[01:56] <exobuzz> if you need to check it for errors you dont need to mount it. but to mount it you can do "mount /dev/[device]  /mountpoint"
[01:56] <tamzarian> I need some help with my USB network device
[01:56] <tamzarian> can someone help me get it to autodetect?
[01:57] <curious> hi
[01:57] <tamzarian> I had a problem where media:/se1/ would show up too
[01:57] <vandal> scrondle: just do what exo told you fsck /dev/[partition]  to check the drive for errors
[01:57] <tamzarian> instead of media/se1/
[01:58] <scrondle> Working on that.
[01:58] <tamzarian> is ubuntu more stable than kubuntu? I might install that if it can autodetect my stuff
[01:58] <curious> may I ask a question please?
[01:58] <vandal> make sure you replace [partition]  with your actual partition
[01:58] <vandal> curious: just ask, don't ask to ask
[01:58] <scrondle> Yes, hda1 in this case. Doesn't sound great.
[01:58] <vandal> the drive doesn't?
[01:59] <curious> where is the setup for domain/workgroup in Kubuntu?
[01:59] <tamzarian> how do I run aptitude or synapt or adept or whatever?
[01:59] <tamzarian> someone in the ubuntu IRC was telling me to run that
[01:59] <FliesLikeABrick> tamzarian  go to it in the menu?
[01:59] <vandal> curious: you are talking abuot samba? you want to share and access shares?
[01:59] <curious>  It sees the router but can see the LAN.
[01:59] <tamzarian> I cant find it XD
[01:59] <tamzarian> I think my kubuntu install is messed up
[01:59] <vandal> tamzarian: you are in the gui?
[01:59] <tamzarian> yea
[02:00] <tamzarian> kubuntu has a gui
[02:00] <curious> could be... new to Kubuntu and Linux in general
[02:00] <vandal> tamzarian: i didn't ask if it had one, i asked if you were using it
[02:00] <tamzarian> yea
[02:00] <tamzarian> I think so
[02:00] <curious>  I see the IpA of the router and the NIC.. that is it
[02:00] <tamzarian> I have a desktop and stuff
[02:00] <tamzarian> im a linux noob
[02:00] <tamzarian> and a kubuntu noob
[02:00] <vandal> tamzarian: it's there in yuor menu on the left
[02:00] <curious>  rest are all greyed out under snetwork settings
[02:00] <tamzarian> bottom left correct?
[02:00] <scrondle> Unfortunately I think that this hard disk is toast. I just replaced it too.
[02:01] <vandal> tamzarian: yes I can't remember though, under system?
[02:01] <tamzarian> and which one am I looking for? adept, synapt or what?
[02:01] <vandal> scrondle: yikes :(
[02:01] <frank23> curious: click go to administrator mode to get access to the options
[02:01] <curious>  yes...
[02:01] <curious>  yes, I did...
[02:01] <curious>  one moment pl. will try again
[02:01] <scrondle> No kidding yikes. I have an install on a usb hard disk that I might have to use for a while.
[02:02] <RichardC> can anyone tell me if EasyUbuntu works well in KUbuntu?
[02:02] <RichardC> err
[02:02] <RichardC> Kubuntu
[02:03] <vandal> tamzarian: you would be looking for adept
[02:03] <vandal> tamzarian: try just going to the run command and typing in adept
[02:03] <scrondle> Should I be seeing any output from fsck, or does it wait until it is done?
[02:03] <exobuzz> I have a question: Who's used ubuntu server, and how does it compare to debian ? Are the packages any difference for things like php/apache ?
[02:03] <curious> is there an easier way to switch to admin mode?
[02:04] <curious>  than to go from network settings window?
[02:04] <vandal> exobuzz: I am running apache/php/mysql on my kubunutu install they seem very similar to debian
[02:05] <me2win> how do the settings of runaway process catcher work?
[02:05] <vandal> conf files are in the same place etc...they are .deb packages and all that
[02:05] <exobuzz> vandal: i have a powerpc server running debian. But I hate the release cycle. Add to that the fact that their are not that many 3rd party repositories for ppc. its not ideal
[02:05] <vandal> while i'm sure there are differences
[02:05] <vandal> well it's slow release for stability
[02:06] <exobuzz> stability, but then you are running like 3 year old php packages :-)
[02:06] <exobuzz> etc
[02:06] <vandal> yeah
[02:06] <scrondle> Vandal fsck is hanging. Any ideas?
[02:07] <vandal> exobuzz: well you can run current versions just not deb packages
[02:07] <exobuzz> vandal: you running breezy ? I tried the last dapper on another machine.. can't wait.. especially since i read that it will have 2.6.16 kernel.. which has a great fix for my laptop
[02:07] <vandal> exobuzz: i have a bunch of redhat servers, i don't use their rpms for apache/php etc..i compile from source
[02:07] <vandal> exobuzz: yeah just have it a on a little machine here :)
[02:08] <exobuzz> vandal: i wanted to build the dotdeb.org packages but i struggled ..
[02:08] <scrondle> Anyone have suggestions? fsck is not giving me any output at this point.
[02:08] <exobuzz> bad dependencies etc
[02:08] <wimpies> does anybody know how I can use konqueror to auto login to a remote server using ssh ?
[02:08] <vandal> wimpies: just use terminal?
[02:09] <vandal> or konsole
[02:09] <vandal> scrondle: dunno man sorry, maybe your drive is pooched
[02:09] <wimpies> sorry i meant konsole
[02:09] <wimpies> of course
[02:09] <tamzarian> ok
[02:09] <vandal> man ssh :P
[02:09] <tamzarian> forget about everything else
[02:09] <tamzarian> I found adept
[02:09] <vandal> ssh -l <username> <hostname>
[02:09] <tamzarian> I ran a command
[02:09] <wimpies> yes but I want it to login automatically
[02:09] <wimpies> I.e. create a meny item to autologin
[02:09] <vandal> oh, no idea about htat
[02:09] <tamzarian> heres my real problem: I have a USB network device that is not being automatically detected. So I cant use it :|
[02:10] <vandal> doesn't sound very secure
[02:10] <exobuzz> create a keypair on your machine. then you copy the public key over to the machine you connect to
[02:10] <exobuzz> then you can connact without a password..
[02:10] <exobuzz> search on google and you will find instructions
[02:10] <wimpies> vandal : no I just want to avoid typing the ssh command in the konsole terminal all the time
[02:10] <vandal> wimpies: create a binary?
[02:10] <ryanakca> I keep on seeing "Johnathan Riddell" all over the place... who is he? I've found out some basic stuff about him... but what is his role in ubuntu?
[02:10] <saint> iam new to linux need help with installing a program called netbeans
[02:10] <tamzarian> Linux was not created for noobs. Back to windows
[02:11] <vandal> wimpies: put ssh -l <username> <password> in a file name of your choice in /usr/bin
[02:11] <wimpies> exobuzz : I have a keypair but need to type in the passphrase and do not seem to be able to type when using konsole -e 'ssh ...'
[02:11] <saint> iam new to linux need help with installing a program called netbeans
[02:11] <exobuzz> do it without a passphrase
[02:11] <exobuzz> :-)
[02:11] <vandal> wimpies: then just run that command, for example i have a file in /usr/bin called sr that has screen -r in it so i don't have to type the whole thing
[02:11] <Riddell> ryanakca: he's just this guy, you know
[02:12] <saint> iam new to linux need help with installing a program called netbeans
[02:12] <wimpies> vandal : The command runs but no konsole starts
[02:12] <ryanakca> Riddell: lol... for some reason I have your pgp key on my keyring...
[02:12] <vandal> wimpies: hrmm i dunno man you would have to make it run konsole first then run the command
[02:13] <wimpies> no that does not work either.  That is the -e possibility
[02:13] <vandal> yeah i dunno :(
[02:13] <ryanakca> saint: you've asked your question 3 times in the past 2 minutes....
[02:14] <vandal> saint: this isn't a netbeans channel, read their docs or check their list
[02:16] <oddie> hello all
[02:18] <vandal> hey
[02:18] <wimpies> vandal; : google is my friend (yuou can add sessions to konsole from the settings->configure) then run command bash -c 'ssh ...'
[02:22] <saint>  /quote stats p
[02:25] <saint> [Who] HedgeMage is n=me@freenode/staff/Hedge
[02:30] <patrix> sweet
[02:30] <treakath> join linux help
[02:31] <patrix> so even though XDMCP doesnt' work in xdm and kdm (on Breezy) due to some bugs, XDMCP works in WDM
[02:31] <patrix> so I finally have my vnc/wdm remote desktop thingie! woot
[02:32] <satempler> is EXA going to make it in time for Dapper
[02:33] <oddie> does anyone here know about php and databases?
[02:33] <davebgimp> hello, I'm trying to set up Kaffeine and cannot seem to get sound. I've installed all the codecs properly and I'm sure the issue is that the sound is not being directed to my sound card. My system and other programs like amarok all work fine,. Does anyone know where I should be looking to point kaffeine to my card?
[02:33] <vandal> oddie: what do you wnat to know?
[02:34] <treakath> any1 here no what the kubutu cd burner is called??
[02:34] <patrix> k3b = cd burner app
[02:34] <me2win> anybody use kbfx?
[02:34] <oddie> vandal: im trying to get a connection to an ARsystem (Program called Remedy) throught php....
[02:35] <vandal> oddie: maybe try #php ?
[02:35] <treakath> where do i download it from or whatever??
[02:35] <oddie> vandal: i tried kept going to an overflow channel....i'll try lata
[02:36] <vandal> oddie: try on efnet, but no one really supports 3rd party, you should make your question more specific
[02:36] <oddie> yer iwill
[02:46] <dunefan> hey guys!
[02:49] <xiO__> hi
[02:49] <dunefan> hey
[02:50] <dunefan> I run the Hedgehog....would you know how I update openoffice to 2.0.1????
[02:53] <xwolf-> how do i uninstall recently installed packages?
[02:54] <me2win> !fish
[02:54] <ubotu> fish is probably A way to access another computer's files using a simple SSH shell account and standard UNIX utilities on the remote side.
[02:54] <frank23> dunefan: I'm not sure. It's not is hoary-backports
[02:55] <Hollowman8904> how do i stop the console from opening every time i login to KDE?
[02:57] <xiO__> just try closing the console, logging out and logging back in
[02:57] <xiO__> I think kubuntu autosaves the session..?
[03:18] <redondos> Does the kubuntu breezy LiveCD have qtparted?
[03:21] <farous> for whoever worked on kubuntu artwork my hat is up for you. For whoever worked on default security setting you could have done much better job. By default all users can log into each other folders !!!
[03:22] <Extreme_Unction> Can anyone assist me in allowing ALSA to use software mixing?
[03:22] <farous> Extreme_Unction: it is configured by default
[03:22] <farous> just set your sound server to als
[03:22] <farous> a
[03:23] <Extreme_Unction> Mines not..
[03:23] <farous> Extreme_Unction: which program is giving you troubles
[03:23] <farous> some prgorams runs only on oss the old sound sys
[03:23] <Extreme_Unction> Amarok, if I run it I can hear nothing from any other app
[03:23] <farous> you need a wrapper for that. alsa-oss package
[03:23] <farous> Extreme_Unction: is it the only one
[03:24] <Extreme_Unction> Is it the only what :\
[03:24] <farous> Extreme_Unction: lets check first if virtual sound mixing work
[03:24] <Extreme_Unction> ok
[03:24] <farous> you can play any sound file in a terminal using aplay
[03:24] <farous> so just aplay <sound file>
[03:24] <farous> than run another instance and see if it works
[03:25] <Extreme_Unction> I don't have any sound files because the only sound files I have are on my mp3 player in which it won't mount because it can't figure out the file system.............
[03:25] <pussfeller> don't rars get an 'extract" menu in the context menu in konq?
[03:25] <pussfeller> I could swear they used to
[03:25] <farous> Extreme_Unction: and do not worry about the sound quality aplay is a raw alsa player
[03:26] <farous> Extreme_Unction: there are several sound files under /usr/share/sounds
[03:26] <farous> go too this dir
[03:26] <farous> pussfeller: you need a package for rar files
[03:26] <farous> !rar
[03:26] <ubotu> well, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[03:26] <pussfeller> yeah i got unrar and all that
[03:26] <Extreme_Unction> yeah
[03:26] <Extreme_Unction> it plays
[03:27] <pussfeller> but I thot the rar extention got the same extract menu that zips and such get
[03:27] <Extreme_Unction> But boy, did you mean shitty quality!
[03:27] <farous> Extreme_Unction: so you have virtual sound mixing set for you
[03:27] <farous> yah
[03:27] <Extreme_Unction> Well, it played.. so I'd guess.
[03:27] <farous> aplay is known for that
[03:27] <pussfeller> i hate having to load up ark just to extract a rar
[03:27] <farous> ok Extreme_Unction check amarok if you can configure it to work with alsa
[03:27] <farous> if not install alsa-oss
[03:28] <farous> and just run aoss amarok when you use amarok and your virtual sound mixing will still work
[03:29] <farous> Extreme_Unction: do you know the dev name for your music device you wana mount
[03:29] <me2win> !kdesu
[03:29] <ubotu> methinks kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[03:29] <Extreme_Unction> Weeeeellll..
[03:29] <Extreme_Unction> I unplugged it yet the icon is still there.
[03:29] <Extreme_Unction> .......
[03:30] <farous> Extreme_Unction: you need to unmount it first
[03:30] <farous> that is why the icon is still on
[03:30] <Extreme_Unction> it was never mounted!
[03:30] <farous> Extreme_Unction: double clicking on it most of the time do the trick
[03:30] <Extreme_Unction> I have
[03:31] <Extreme_Unction> it gives me the error it doesn't know the file system
[03:31] <Extreme_Unction> Even though it's not plugged in
[03:31] <Extreme_Unction> and does the same if it is
[03:32] <Extreme_Unction> I've got a few updates through adept, I'll try that.. do a full reboot, and see if it turns out for the better.. then play with Amarok.
[03:32] <farous> Extreme_Unction: good luck. just check the options and configuration sorry i do not use amarok so will be of no help there
[03:33] <Extreme_Unction> What do you use, then? XMMS?
[03:33] <farous> ya most of the time
[03:33] <farous> realplay and mplayer too
[03:33] <Extreme_Unction> realplayer haunted me on windows enough
[03:34] <farous> i heared good recommendations for amarok but it is a resource hog and i do not like that
[03:35] <Extreme_Unction> Oh?.. I don't consider it
[03:35] <pussfeller> i give a ++ for amarok
[03:35] <Extreme_Unction> 37mb of RAM it's taking up
[03:35] <Extreme_Unction> not too muchhh
[03:36] <me2win> any idea why kdesu wouldnt be working
[03:36] <me2win> i kdesu konqueror but it doesnt work
[03:36] <farous> me2win: try updating your system
[03:37] <me2win> apt-get update?
[03:37] <farous> me2win: if this a fresh install updating the sys will get rid of this prob
[03:37] <me2win> nah, ive apt-get update ed about 12 times since i installed
[03:37] <farous> me2win: whatever you prefer adept, apt-get aptitude all will work
[03:37] <Extreme_Unction> sudo adept then hit fetch update and hit commit changes
[03:38] <Extreme_Unction> thats what I do
[03:38] <Extreme_Unction> brb reb00t
[03:38] <farous> too fast for me. for linux we do not need reboot unless it is a kernel update
[03:38] <me2win> kdesu works for everything except konq
[03:39] <xwolf-> not here.
[03:40] <Extreme_Unction> Updating does make my mp3 visible
[03:40] <Extreme_Unction> :)
[03:40] <farous> :)
[03:41] <me2win> Extreme_Unction: everything works with kdesu except konq
[03:41] <me2win> is there another way to get root privs in konq?
[03:41] <Extreme_Unction> Uhh
[03:41] <Extreme_Unction> In Amarok it says
[03:41] <Extreme_Unction> Output plugin: alsasink
[03:41] <farous> me2win: just curious why you need to run konq as root
[03:42] <farous> Extreme_Unction: than it is properly set
[03:42] <me2win> cuz i need to set some permissions
[03:42] <farous> Extreme_Unction: what was the other prog that you wanted to run
[03:42] <xwolf-> kdesu konqueror works just fine
[03:42] <xwolf-> at least here
[03:42] <me2win> are you running dapper?
[03:42] <Extreme_Unction> Anything, nothing seems to work..
[03:42] <me2win> im thinking thats why
[03:42] <Extreme_Unction> I'll try aplay
[03:42] <Extreme_Unction> ...
[03:42] <Extreme_Unction> aplay worked, must have been just what I was trying before.
[03:42] <xwolf-> by the way
[03:43] <Extreme_Unction> Which was Cube, a 3d game.. didn't arse to try aplay.
[03:43] <xwolf-> why the hell does mplayer have a single screen size?
[03:43] <farous> Extreme_Unction: most games use the oss sound system
[03:43] <farous> that is why
[03:43] <Extreme_Unction> Oh, anyway to change that?
[03:43] <farous> type aoss <game name> and it will work
[03:43] <Extreme_Unction> ssswwwweeeettttttt
[03:43] <farous> install alsa-oss package first
[03:44] <Crowbar> If sudo is complaining about a timestamp in the future.  I did an ntp update and now i can't sudo anymore.  I can't even sudo -k or sudo -K to clear the timestamp.  any suggestions?
[03:44] <Extreme_Unction> apt-get is lovely..
[03:44] <me2win> whats the command to remount your fstab shit?
[03:44] <Extreme_Unction> Farous, one more question.
[03:45] <Extreme_Unction> I was stabbing around looking for where one might disable loading previous sessions on reboots.. I prefer a fresh start, considering I rarely reboot for casual purposes.
[03:45] <farous> Extreme_Unction: go ahead
[03:46] <farous> Extreme_Unction: sorry friend am not a kde expert. I run a lighter desktop though am tempted now to reinstall kde
[03:47] <Extreme_Unction> What desktop you run? XFCE?
[03:47] <farous>  i run a couple
[03:47] <farous> fav. is fluxbox and ion
[03:47] <Extreme_Unction> Ahhh, I started off on KDE and tried to stick with it.
[03:48] <farous> kde was my first desktop too
[03:48] <Extreme_Unction> First Linux box I ever set up, Slack on KDE.. Fortunately I never got too aquainted with Linux.. Working on that now.
[03:48] <Extreme_Unction> It was around four years ago, and I'm still quite a noob.
[03:48] <farous> Extreme_Unction: we all are :)
[03:48] <Extreme_Unction> Ahh well, I've quit all of my gaming habits.. I can safely say I've ditched windows for good.
[03:48] <Extreme_Unction> Especially with Vista, I got a copy of that..
[03:49] <Extreme_Unction> Clutterbeast
[03:49] <farous> Extreme_Unction: did you try vista it is still in testing
[03:50] <Extreme_Unction> Yeah, my friend burnt me a disk.. He probably got it off of a torrent. I was anxious to give it a go so I took it for a spin..
[03:50] <farous> yet i am in a point that i am not comfrotable with window anymore. most of the time i strugle to config anything. I just forgot
[03:50] <Extreme_Unction> I'm much better at Windows, but it's going to hell for anyone who is tech-savvy IMO.
[03:50] <Extreme_Unction> It's not very configurable, they force you to update, etc.
[03:51] <farous> window like to hide configuration options
[03:51] <Extreme_Unction> The only game I play is good ol' Unreal Tournament anyways, and we all know that's a godsend for Linux gamers.. Though today you can usually find me putting around Eclipse working on some Java.
[03:51] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, I had to whip out a disassembler/resource hacker many-a-time to get what I needed set up.
[03:52] <Extreme_Unction> Linux is just so configurable, I admit it's a challenge to get it going, and get used to it.. but when you do.
[03:52] <Extreme_Unction> It's amazingly better.
[03:53] <farous> i hate the fact that with window you always need to reboot
[03:53] <Extreme_Unction> Hehe
[03:53] <Extreme_Unction> Yes
[03:53] <farous> and by the way with linux you only need reboot if you do a kernel update
[03:54] <farous> anyother update the most you need to do is log out and log in again
[03:54] <Extreme_Unction> Lol
[03:54] <Extreme_Unction> The world needs to learn that there are more OS then windows.
[03:55] <Extreme_Unction> I don't know, I just think Windows is going downward.. There's an extent to how 'easy' you want to make it. Especially when Vista took up around 400-500mb of RAM alone.
[03:55] <Extreme_Unction> I took a day or two to slim it down, got it down to about taking 250mb of RAM.. that's pretty sad, along with a fat 7% cpu usage.
[03:55] <farous> that's another prob. and i think it is intentional. to make you buy new hardware :)
[03:56] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, I'm decently up to date.
[03:56] <Extreme_Unction> I'm waiting for socket AM2 before any upgrades.
[03:56] <farous> people will start switching when the new intel processor is coupled with vista
[03:56] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, are you an Intel or AMD fan?
[03:57] <Extreme_Unction> Or no side.
[03:57] <farous> i have both
[03:57] <farous> on a desktop i prefer amd
[03:57] <farous> on laptop i centrion is still ahead
[03:57] <Extreme_Unction> Ahhh, I prefer AMD in desktop, and in server, and in laptop.
[03:57] <Extreme_Unction> :)
[03:57] <farous> it runs much hotter on laptops
[03:57] <Extreme_Unction> I've got a 3000+, socket 939, Winchester core..
[03:57] <Extreme_Unction> On my desktop
[03:58] <farous> and i have two laptops one centrino one amd
[03:58] <Extreme_Unction> Overclocked to 2.7ghz on stock cooling and running at a decent 95F
[03:58] <Extreme_Unction> Hehe
[03:58] <farous> ok got to go now take care simpsons is one
[03:58] <farous> chaw
[03:58] <Extreme_Unction> Later.
[04:05] <Pur1ty> hi
[04:05] <Pur1ty> this is a support channel yes?
[04:05] <me2win> yeah
[04:06] <me2win> !scp
[04:06] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win
[04:06] <Extreme_Unction> You need help, Pur1ty?
[04:06] <Pur1ty> yep
[04:06] <xwolf-> why the hell does mplayer have a single (and i cant change it) screen size?
[04:06] <Extreme_Unction> Whatcha need help with?
[04:07] <Pur1ty> im fairly new to linux etc. i was wondering, if on install, i need to enter the ip and other stuff to work with my router
[04:07] <Pur1ty> or if i should leave it empty, and let the router do the work
[04:07] <Extreme_Unction> No, it'll do the work for you :)
[04:07] <Pur1ty> ok ^_^ thanks lol
[04:08] <Extreme_Unction> Just remember to run the cfdisk partitioner and abolish your Windows partition!11
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ciao
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have a problem
[04:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i was going around the web and i encountered xglobe
[04:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and xearth style program that can show a 3D earth dinamic map on the desktop
[04:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i had problems in downloading A version
[04:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i found this version for suse and i converted/installed correctly with alien
[04:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://www.cs.unc.edu/%7Escheuerm/xglobe/ here it is the program
[04:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i can't make it run
[04:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the rpm package is at this page
[04:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/xglobe-0.5-931.i586.html?hl=com&cs=xglobe:PN:0:0:0:0:2080702
[04:21] <me2win> !mesg
[04:21] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win
[04:21] <me2win> !info mesg
[04:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you have any clue?
[04:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nothing opens if i type symply xglobe -kde
[04:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> even thogh the program is running...
[04:22] <me2win> hmm
[04:22] <me2win> not sure
[04:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried to use this command too: ./xglobe -kde -mapfile /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xglobe/map.jpg
[04:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same result
[04:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xearth
[04:30] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[04:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[04:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i almost did it
[04:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the only problem is that is seems to be another desktop draw over the planet
[04:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so the image flip and disappear
[04:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the change that i made was to "allow program in desktop window"
[04:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> options in the KDE look and feel
[04:38] <frank23> I'm using kde 3.5.1  the keyboard layouts menu in system settings doesn't have any keyboard layouts to shoose from. anyone else has this problem
[04:40] <L0ki`> anyone know if firestarter is still supported by ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[04:42] <frank23> firestarter is in universe so its not officially supported by ubuntu. It's available in the repositories though
[04:43] <L0ki`> i used to use it but its no longer on apt-get and ive been unable to find a .deb packge for download so wasnt sure what was goin on with it
[04:44] <ClayG> Hey gang, whats a good newsreader that sorts the messages in a threaded manner, something better than thunderbird? GUI please
[04:44] <Phoenix1701> Hey folks.  I'
[04:45] <Phoenix1701> I'm having a bit of trouble with Kubuntu's disk mounting configurations.
[04:45] <frank23> ClayG: there is a newsreader named pan
[04:45] <Phoenix1701> Specifically, I have two partitions (non-Linux) that I want to mount automatically and show up in media:/ at startup.
[04:45] <ClayG> frank23, thanks any others?
[04:45] <ClayG> besides thunderbird and pan?
[04:45] <Phoenix1701> I've added them using the Disks and Filesystems settings applet, but every startup they show up as disablec.
[04:45] <Phoenix1701> er, disabled rather.
[04:46] <Phoenix1701> Anyone know how I can get them to actually mount at startup?
[04:46] <frank23> ClayG: pan is the only one I know
[04:47] <Phoenix1701> (And also, any idea where I need to mount them in order for them to show up in media:/?)
[04:49] <Phoenix1701> Surely *someone* is awake in here.
[04:50] <Extreme_Unction> I take sexual bribes!
[04:55] <Celeste> hi
[04:55] <frank23> can anybody running kde 3.5.1 check if the keyboard layouts are there in the configuration dialog?
[04:56] <Celeste> the "Baghira" package seems to not contain all the needed contents to apply the whole Baghira Theme to KDE.
[04:56] <Celeste> Can anyone help me applying the theme as needed?
[04:56] <Celeste> here is a screenshot:
[04:56] <Celeste> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/34991-1.jpg
[04:56] <Celeste> its a KDE theme
[04:57] <frank23> Celeste: I don't really know... what is missing?
[04:58] <Celeste> frank23, I only get the   kcontrol -> Appearence and Themes -> Styles  -> [Baghira] 
[04:58] <Celeste> frank23, but only the style is too less to make KDE look like Mac OS
[04:59] <frank23> I think its only a kwin theme. Maybe you need more stuff from kde-look
[05:00] <Celeste> frank23, can you guide me just trhough all the stuff I need for this one theme?
[05:00] <Celeste> I will write down all the steps so I can do it myself the next time
[05:00] <frank23> If I can figure it out in 5 minutes, sure
[05:01] <Celeste> frank23, thank you very much!
[05:01] <crxyem> ok who wants to help me out with possible a script to run at startup
[05:01] <frank23> where exactly did you get that screenshot?
[05:02] <Celeste> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34991
[05:02] <_sam> hello
[05:02] <_sam> newbie here w/ a question if anyone can help me
[05:02] <crxyem> issue, I'm wireless, during boot-up, fstab gets processed and my network connection isn't 100% up and running so smbfs shares fail
[05:02] <Celeste> this is a screenshot of the Baghira KDE Theme on slackware but Baghira exists for every distro
[05:03] <_sam> I have a built in wireless card, a Broadcom, in my Gateway laptop. How do I get Linux to make it work?
[05:03] <crxyem> _sam you'll need to use ndiswrapper.
[05:03] <crxyem> !ndiswrapper
[05:03] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[05:03] <crxyem> check out that link
[05:04] <_sam> thanks!
[05:04] <crxyem> you'll need the drivers that came with the laptop, that howto should help you out tho m it worked for me
[05:04] <_aquila> hi
[05:04] <_aquila> :)
[05:04] <_sam> thanks I'm checkin' it out right now
[05:05] <frank23> I think the package you have should give this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?cont
[05:05] <frank23> Celeste: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12498
[05:07] <Celeste> frank23, I am opening the page
[05:08] <frank23> Celeste: I am not sure how to get the other one you showed
[05:08] <Celeste> they say:    apt-get install kwin-style-baghira
[05:08] <Celeste> how I told you:  I already have the style
[05:08] <Celeste> I have no clue how to get the rest
[05:09] <frank23> the package of the first screenshot was for slackware. I don't know if there is an equivalent for debian/ubuntu
[05:10] <bur[n] er> anyone know how to tango-ify kde?
[05:10] <Celeste> oh :(
[05:11] <Phoenix1701> Okay, so I managed to muck about with the fstab to fix a few of my earlier problems, but the one I'm having now is a bit tougher.  I want to set the permissions or ownership on the Windows filesystem mount point so that I can see its contents while not root (right now its permissions are dr-x------).
[05:12] <frank23> where should bug reports for kde 3.5.1 be submitted?
[05:12] <Celeste> frank23, do you know any "complete" themes?
[05:12] <Phoenix1701> But I can't, because no matter what I do, it claims the filesystem is mounted read-only (even if I mount it read-write, incidentally).
[05:12] <Celeste> frank23, where I can download an all in one solution
[05:12] <Phoenix1701> So if I can't mount the filesystem read-write, how am I supposed to change the permissions on it so I can get read access without being root?
[05:12] <frank23> Celeste: no, sorry. The most customizing I ever did was my wallpaper and mouse theme
[05:13] <Celeste> frank23, ok, thank you so far
[05:14] <Phoenix1701> I realize perhaps my question isn't particularly interesting, but I'd really love a response or two. :)
[05:14] <frank23> Celeste: one thing you can do is make sure kde and gnome apps look the same
[05:15] <frank23> Celeste: I use keramik as my kde style and geramik as my gtk style
[05:15] <crxyem> phoenix you'll need to do something like this
[05:16] <crxyem> '/dev/sda2       /media/sda2     ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[05:16] <crxyem> the umask allow r/w accress
[05:16] <Phoenix1701> Ah, the key point there being the umask?
[05:16] <Phoenix1701> That's in /etc/fstab, right?
[05:16] <crxyem> fstab
[05:16] <me2win> lol, i have 8 people SSHed into my b0x
[05:16] <me2win> we are all chatting in tty
[05:17] <frank23> Celeste: you need gtk2-engines-geramik  for geramik
[05:17] <me2win> and im irssi'd into irc
[05:17] <crxyem> hey me2win
[05:17] <me2win> sup crxyem
[05:17] <Phoenix1701> crxyem: Thanks :)  Any way to test it out without rebooting?
[05:17] <crxyem> sudo mount -a
[05:17] <bur[n] er> me2win: using |wall ??
[05:17] <me2win> bur[n] er: yeah
[05:18] <crxyem> me2win , I'm trying to sort out my own little fstab issue with samba
[05:18] <bur[n] er> know how to get it so that an ssh'd user and a local user share the same command line to type commands into?
[05:18] <me2win> no, how?
[05:18] <me2win> lolz
[05:18] <me2win> crxyem: whats wrong with samba
[05:19] <Phoenix1701> Worked like a charm, awesome.  :)  Thank you!
[05:19] <crxyem> np, Phoenix
[05:20] <Phoenix1701> Gotta run, but I'll be back I'm sure :)
[05:21] <crxyem> me2win : if I try //YEM/Documents /home//Documents smbfs credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777 0 0 , that's in my fstab
[05:21] <crxyem> and do mount-a it works like a charm
[05:21] <crxyem> if I reboot, it fails, I think because my wireless nic isn't 100% functional before fstab processess everything
[05:22] <me2win> hmm
[05:22] <crxyem> so I'm thinking if I can write a script and have it run well after the nic is up and running everything will be fine
[05:23] <crxyem> but I'm not to sure on how to script that
[05:23] <frank23> crxyem: I'm pretty sure the bootup process doesnt skip steps like that. when you bring up network interfaces, it waits until they are up
[05:24] <lsbalaji> hiii i just go my ubuntu up and running, a cool cool distro
[05:25] <crxyem> I can paste my dmesg if you'd like to see it
[05:28] <crxyem> I think I know why.
[05:29] <crxyem> I put my credentials file in /root/ which needs route access, but I assume fstab has root access during boot-up
[05:31] <Crashoveride> hey all i gots a qeustion for you, how do i execute an executable file? or shell script? or...uh well I wanna run freenx
[05:31] <Crashoveride> (in console to start a server)
[05:31] <vandal> use /path/to/the/executable
[05:32] <lsbalaji> make sure u have reqd perms on the file
[05:33] <Crashoveride> um how do i know if i have permission?
[05:33] <vandal> it will tell you if you don't
[05:33] <vandal> with a permission denied error
[05:33] <lsbalaji> la <file-name>
[05:34] <lsbalaji> tht's right too
[05:34] <Crashoveride> ok dokie brb
[05:39] <crxyem> well frank23 you were right, ended up being a stupid typo
[05:39] <crxyem> username in .smdcredentials, password in .smdcredentials , stupid b's and d's
[05:39] <frank23> crxyem: Maybe I was right ;)  Doesn't mean I knew what I was talking about!
[05:40] <crxyem> lol
[05:40] <crxyem> well , the system waited for my nicon startup, and then one of the very last things to come up ws the samba deamon
[05:40] <crxyem> daemon ??
[05:41] <L0ki`> anyone play css on linux ?
[05:41] <crxyem> css, style sheets ??
[05:41] <L0ki`> Counter-Strike Source lol
[05:41] <crxyem> ah , nope not I
[05:41] <L0ki`> doh :x
[05:42] <crxyem> ah here's one last little tid but I would like to work the damn Fn key on my laptop
[05:59] <farous> hi just wondering anyone can listen to live365. or is it just me who have this problem. I can not even log to their webpage. Can someone try that for me
[06:02] <xiO__> works for me
[06:03] <crxyem> so anyone know how to get the Fn key to work ??
[06:04] <farous> thanx xiO__
[06:04] <xiO__> np
[06:04] <farous> did you try it now?
[06:05] <farous> it used to work here but all of a sudden it does not work anymore i think my isp has something to do with it
[06:05] <xiO__> right before I typed that it had worked
[06:12] <Pur1ty> hi
[06:12] <Hobbsee> hey Pur1ty
[06:13] <Pur1ty> I just installed kubuntu.. and i tried to install wine in Adept, and now it wont open
[06:14] <Pur1ty> (adept wont open)
[06:14] <Hobbsee> any error messages?
[06:14] <Pur1ty> yep
[06:14] <Pur1ty> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or something similar. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[06:14] <Hobbsee> so then, try sudo apt-get update in a terminal
[06:16] <Lamer-X> anybody know how to turn off the system:/ and media:/ KIO slaves? I can't even access those KIOs from K3b...
[06:17] <Pur1ty> ok, it says E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[06:18] <Hobbsee> Pur1ty: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[06:21] <Pur1ty> ok ty
[06:21] <Pur1ty> is working now
[06:22] <farous> anyone know why i can access live365.com form my other computer but not from this one. both running ubuntu linux. i get the message unkown host trying to ping it
[06:22] <farous_> anyone know why i can access live365.com form my other computer but not from this one. both running ubuntu linux. i get the message unkown host trying to ping it
[06:25] <Hobbsee> Pur1ty: yay!
[06:26] <Pur1ty> ^^
[06:27] <Hobbsee> that it now works
[06:30] <goldbrick> Any idea on how to get Xorgcfg for Kubuntu?
[06:33] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[06:33] <ubotu> xcfg is, like, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:33] <Hobbsee> goldbrick: that one?  ^
[06:35] <goldbrick> The reason I ask is I'm trying to get X to use both my video cards
[06:36] <Brydenn> well i figured something out
[06:36] <Brydenn> i learned WHY Gentoo users dont do fresh installs with their package manager system
[06:36] <Brydenn> cuz it takes a god damn year to install lol
[06:37] <Brydenn> seriously this is insane
[06:38] <tomcatt> do you guys know how to configure kphone to iconnecthere.com?
[06:39] <Lamer-X> Brydenn: exactly why i switched to k/ubuntu
[06:39] <Brydenn> lol @ Lamer-X
[06:39] <Brydenn> yah well i'm giving Gentoo a try
[06:39] <Brydenn> I've always wanted to try a "BSDish" OS anyway
[06:40] <Lamer-X> have fun man, just make sure you have lots of time to keep it up to date, cos if you go a few months without updating it, you'll have 4000 things to do to make portage work
[06:40] <Hobbsee> weird...i see they took the nice splash screen away, too
[06:40] <tomcatt> do you guys know how to configure kphone to iconnecthere.com?
[06:48] <Brydenn> !xcfg
[06:48] <ubotu> methinks xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:49] <goldbrick> wow
[06:54] <gamma> Brydenn: don't go to gentoo
[06:54] <gamma> it's EVVVVIL
[06:54] <gamma> i came from using it for the last 4 years.. it's a royal pain
[06:54] <gamma> any "feature" becomes a 6 hour project with gentoo
[06:55] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:55] <Hobbsee> sounds like fun!
[06:55] <gamma> they only thing i like is since it's source based if you're a developer you've got access to the headers right there
[06:55] <gamma> where kubuntu/ubuntu don't even have gcc preinstalled
[06:56] <Brydenn> hmm
[06:56] <Hobbsee> true - all in one metapackage called kde-devel
[06:56] <Brydenn> i'm not jumpin ship guys haha
[06:56] <Brydenn> i just want to try it heh
[06:56] <gamma> Hobbsee: i'll have to check that out then.. i want to see if i can help kde out a bit
[06:56] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:57] <gamma> i honestly don't see the point now that i left there
[06:57] <gamma> compiling from source doesn't give any speed increase which is what i was told
[06:57] <gamma> and kde took a good 18 hours to compile ;)
[06:57] <Brydenn> yah see
[06:57] <Brydenn> i'm still compiling KDE
[06:57] <Brydenn> and it's pissin me off
[06:58] <Brydenn> hell i coulda installed 10 windows xp pro machines by now
[06:58] <gamma> did you do 'emerge kde'?
[06:58] <Brydenn> yes
[06:58] <Brydenn> from scratch
[06:58] <Brydenn> haha
[06:58] <gamma> how long has it been going for?
[06:58] <Brydenn> since i got home at 4:20pm
[06:58] <gamma> that's like the "full" kde install with everything and the kitchen sink
[06:58] <Brydenn> yes i know
[06:58] <Brydenn> but still
[06:58] <Brydenn> kinda lame
[06:59] <gamma> well if it was from scratch i'd say it's going to take 27 hours on a fast machine
[06:59] <gamma> cuz you need to compile xorg, firefox and some other crap
[06:59] <gamma> then all the kde stuff
[06:59] <gamma> xorg takes like 30min to 1 hour, firefox is an hour 20 minutes
[06:59] <gamma> kubuntu you'd be playing with your system by now ;)
[06:59] <Brydenn> yah i'm still on KDE stuff though
[07:00] <Brydenn> 82/158 whatever that means
[07:00] <gamma> any idea what package out of what?
[07:00] <goldbrick> I have no idea how to find the BUS id of the second video card :-/
[07:00] <gamma> oh you're using the monolithic builds eek
[07:00] <Brydenn> i'm using the latest release gamma
[07:00] <Brydenn> 2006.0
[07:00] <me2win> anyone wanna join in our game of tetris?
[07:00] <me2win> we have 4, need 2 more
[07:01] <Brydenn> tetris? god i want to kill that game
[07:01] <Brydenn> no blood, no blowing stuff up... what fun is that?
[07:01] <Brydenn> ;)
[07:01] <me2win> we're playing nethack next
[07:01] <gamma> Brydenn: there are split ebuilds and the monolithic builds.. the split ones have each program as an ebuild, the monolithic ones have kde-games, kde-office, etc.
[07:01] <Brydenn> auh
[07:01] <gamma> me2win: change tetris to atlantik and you've got yourself a player
[07:01] <gamma> ;)
[07:02] <Brydenn> yah the latest gentoo iso was pretty cool. had a nice installer where i got to select what crap i wanted
[07:02] <me2win> gamma: lol, i would but the other 3 people are gnome users ewwww
[07:02] <gamma> they've got gtk-atlantik :P
[07:02] <Brydenn> gnome is for hippies
[07:02] <gamma> which crashes
[07:02] <me2win> agrt ^
[07:02] <gamma> gnome uses c, that's my argument
[07:03] <gamma> i'm learning c++ right now, and they're missing out on stuff
[07:03] <Brydenn> OMG gamma
[07:03] <Brydenn> i'm now at 83/158 lol
[07:03] <Hobbsee> gamma: what program do you use to compile/debug/all that it?
[07:03] <Brydenn> 1 whole pack
[07:03] <Brydenn> YAY lol
[07:04] <gamma> kdelibs took the longest for me
[07:04] <gamma> like 2 hours
[07:04] <Brydenn> yah this is agonizing
[07:04] <gamma> Hobbsee: i'm using kate for coding and then the little terminal they've got there i just type g++ sauces.cpp -o foo
[07:04] <Brydenn> if this is any representation as to how fast Gentoo is... i'll show gentoo how fast I can delete it
[07:04] <gamma> it's good to learn how linux works exactly
[07:05] <Brydenn> yah i need to learn c++ too
[07:05] <gamma> i didn't know what mounting was or how kernel modules worked until gentoo
[07:05] <Brydenn> i only took like 2 terms in college
[07:05] <Brydenn> all i remember is like cout >>
[07:05] <Brydenn> and cin <<
[07:05] <Brydenn> haha
[07:05] <gamma> i'm very good in c, decent in java, i do php, some mono and i'm trying to learn c++
[07:05] <Hobbsee> gamma: what's -o foo do?
[07:06] <gamma> that's where it outputs the binary file
[07:06] <Hobbsee> ah, i see
[07:06] <Brydenn> if you're good in C isn't c++ an easy move?
[07:06] <gamma> well c++ is more like java with a less user friendly syntax
[07:06] <gamma> it's "object oriented"
[07:07] <gamma> i'm doing decent learning c++
[07:07] <Brydenn> you mean a more complicated syntax
[07:07] <gamma> i made a thing that writes to files and something that prints the file size
[07:07] <gamma> well c++ is cin << and java is System.out.print("stuff")
[07:07] <Brydenn> hey, i like them both over Pascal
[07:08] <gamma> i dunno it's just less abbreviating
[07:08] <Brydenn> haha that's just a ghetto language
[07:08] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[07:08] <gamma> import file; in java instead of import <foo>; using namespace std;
[07:09] <Brydenn> hey i know what "std" means haha
[07:09] <gamma> you can declare variables inside of the for loop statement in java instead of declaring them at the top of the function in c
[07:09] <gamma> little stuff
[07:09] <Brydenn> yah
[07:09] <gamma> for (int i=0; i<9; i++)
[07:09] <gamma> instead of
[07:09] <gamma> int i=0;
[07:09] <Brydenn> it always got confusing for me to declare that crap at the start
[07:09] <Hobbsee> gamma: not sure if you could help me, but what do i do with this?  http://online.mq.edu.au/pub/COMP115/support/support.html  - i'd prefer to be able to run something natively on linux if possible...
[07:10] <gamma> for (i=0; i<9 i++)
[07:10] <Brydenn> its like speaking spanish... you speak with the descriptive words first
[07:10] <Brydenn> "running fast he went"
[07:10] <Brydenn> blah
[07:10] <xiO__> for (int i=0; i<9; i++) would work in c++
[07:10] <gamma> xiO__: o'rly?
[07:10] <xiO__> rly
[07:10] <gamma> sweet
[07:11] <gamma> i know in c it didn't
[07:11] <gamma> gcc would whine
[07:11] <xiO__> dunno about c
[07:11] <gamma> which goes back to my first point of c++ being more like java
[07:11] <gamma> Hobbsee: download that c++ file somewhere
[07:11] <Hobbsee> yep
[07:11] <gamma> and then run g++ test.cpp -o binary
[07:11] <Hobbsee> yeah, did that, it outputted a file
[07:11] <gamma> and then ./binary
[07:12] <one> hello, this is my second time installing ubuntuand it doesn't recognize my sound device,,, i saved the code but not what to type in terminal to enter it,,, any1 have time to help?
[07:12] <gamma> did it print that code?
[07:12] <Hobbsee> yes
[07:12] <gamma> tada :P
[07:12] <Hobbsee> ie, is there any way in particular that i can use that program?
[07:13] <gamma> like for what?
[07:13] <Hobbsee> the Bloodshed Dev-C++ (ziped file)
[07:13] <gamma> oh..
[07:13] <gamma> hold on
[07:13] <Hobbsee> IIRC cgywin runs linux programs on windows, right?
[07:13] <gamma> what is it exactly?
[07:13] <Hobbsee> well, seeing that Bloodshed Dev-C++ requires cygwin, doesnt that mean that it should run on linux natively?
[07:13] <gamma> yea cygwin is a unix shell enviornment
[07:13] <Hobbsee> compiler/debugger/etc
[07:14] <gamma> why not just use kate?
[07:14] <Hobbsee> will it do all the functions of the program?
[07:14] <gamma> it's not a debugger, but if you know the syntax you should be all set
[07:14] <Hobbsee> not yet, anywya
[07:14] <gamma> hold on i'm downloading it
[07:14] <Hobbsee> okay
[07:15] <gamma> http://cplus.about.com/od/beginnerctutorial/l/blcplustut.htm is what im using to learn c++
[07:15] <gamma> it's a decent guide
[07:15] <robotgeek> gamma: just use gcc ?
[07:15] <gamma> the books at my bookstore are like $150 dollars for a good one
[07:15] <gamma> robotgeek: when coding in c use gcc, when coding in c++ use g++
[07:16] <gamma> it'll tell you whatever errors are in your code when you try to compile it
[07:16] <robotgeek> gamma: sure, it think it autodetects c+= and uses g++, same with java
[07:17] <gamma> oh didn't know that.. it's only a 2 char difference anyway :P
[07:17] <azathoth> hey folks, i've just tried to use the dapper flight 4 live/install cd (tried both) and after the vmlinuz bootup it just hangs with a cursor blinking in the top left corner... the 5.10 kubuntu live/installs discs load fine... i've tried re-burning but the results are the same... anyone know any kind of fix?
[07:18] <Hobbsee> gamma: ah ok...cool :)  thanks
[07:18] <gamma> Hobbsee: you can't really use that zip file. One part of it is cygwin which has basic unix commands, then the other direcotry has a .exe for the devcpp setup file
[07:18] <Hobbsee> right, yep
[07:18] <gamma> kate ftw :P
[07:18] <gamma> sleep time
[07:18] <Hobbsee> so i'll have to reboot to windows to use it, or use it on a uni computer
[07:18] <Hobbsee> true
[07:18] <gamma-zzz> Hobbsee: are they forcing you to use that program or something?
[07:18] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: is today's dapper broken kded?
[07:19] <gamma-zzz> azathoth: did breezy work for you?
[07:19] <Hobbsee> gamma-zzz: not sure - they're forcing coding in C++, and the tutorials and all that will be using that
[07:19] <azathoth> gamma-zzz: yeah perfectly
[07:19] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: i'm not sure - seems to be ok here
[07:19] <azathoth> it just hangs after the initial gui screen...
[07:19] <gamma-zzz> azathoth: does it even get to the part where it flashes the bootsplash?
[07:19] <Hobbsee> but there were some borked gtk upgrades...
[07:19] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: hmm, my kded is foobared, i think
[07:19] <Hobbsee> :(
[07:20] <robotgeek> yeah, i can't even alt + f2
[07:20] <Hobbsee> gamma-zzz: i can just do it thru school, with windows - but i'd prefer to be able to use my laptop
[07:20] <azathoth> gamma-zzz: i hit "install from hard-disk" and it flashes up the "installing" and the vmlinuz dots go across the screen
[07:20] <azathoth> then it blacks out and blinks the cursor
[07:20] <gamma-zzz> Hobbsee: i say use kate, you'll get by fine, any questions feel free to ask me
[07:20] <Hobbsee> *nods* ok, thanks
[07:21] <gamma-zzz> as long as you know how to g++ filename -o binary and you know how to type you wont have any problem with linux
[07:21] <gamma-zzz> azathoth: what video card do you have?
[07:21] <farous> hmm that is really weird. I can not connect to live365 from this machine either eth or wireless from both window and linux. I can connect to it though from my other pc on the same LAN. Does that mean i am black listed there somehow based on mac address ?
[07:21] <azathoth> breezy works perfectly, live and install... but when i try the dapper builds, the live and install discs hang in the same place
[07:21] <ryan> hey, i'm having trouble with synaptic
[07:21] <azathoth> i have a geforce 256
[07:21] <azathoth> it's old and crappy, but has no probs in 5.10
[07:21] <gamma-zzz> azathoth: did you try waiting a little bit?
[07:21] <ryan> it won't properly update my package list
[07:21] <gamma-zzz> bootsplash could have died, it might boot
[07:21] <ryan> i get this message:
[07:22] <azathoth> well i waited for 10 minutes :)
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <azathoth> the cd stopped spinning and wouldn't do anything
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <azathoth> gah!
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <farous> ryan do not use the canadian mirror
[07:22] <ryan> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ca.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:22] <ryan> ah
[07:22] <farous> ryan and do not flood the channel
[07:22] <ryan> pardon the flood
[07:22] <gamma-zzz> azathoth: oh.. eww.. did you try selecting the boot from livecd option and then mash ctrl+alt+f1 to see if it gets you a console
[07:22] <ryan> -_-;;
[07:23] <farous> ryan you might need to run sudo apt-get update
[07:23] <farous> and your problems will go away too
[07:23] <ryan> k, i'll give that a try
[07:23] <azathoth> gamma-zzz: nope, didn't try that... i'll try that next time... anything else you suggest?
[07:23] <ryan> if not that, then just switch mirrors?
[07:23] <gamma-zzz> hmm
[07:23] <gamma-zzz> i don't really know what changes on dapper that could bork it
[07:23] <farous> ryan i do not know the mirror state now but two days ago they had probs
[07:24] <gamma-zzz> err changed*
[07:24] <azathoth> the install is different tho... it's a gui bootup... maybe it hates my gfx card...
[07:24] <Hobbsee> ryan: please dont paste.  try taking the ca. out of all those addresses, and see if they work
[07:24] <ryan> ok
[07:25] <gamma-zzz> it's got the loading vmwhatever scroll bar then it goes to command line after it loads
[07:25] <gamma-zzz> or finishes that bar
[07:25] <farous> Hobbsee: do yo have any idea if live365 would block a devoted listener like me based on his mac address? i am really how can i put it !!!!!!!!!
[07:26] <gamma-zzz> azathoth: try flight3 if the first fix didn't work.. then worse comes to worse just sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:26] <gamma-zzz> 'night
[07:26] <farous> free internet radio
[07:26] <azathoth> night and thanks
[07:26] <azathoth> i think i'll install normally and do a dist-upgrade from the cd
[07:26] <farous> anyway i finally installed kde on my test pc again and i love the polish it have the art work is astonding
[07:27] <farous> hate the default security. All users can loginto each other home dir who ever thought of that !!!!
[07:27] <ryan> ok, taking the ca out of the URLs seems to have worked...thanks a lot!
[07:27] <ryan> sorry again for the flood
[07:27] <farous> ryan good luck
[07:27] <farous> ryan use the pastebin from now on
[07:27] <farous> !tell ryan about pastebin
[07:28] <Hobbsee> farous: yes it *does* seem rather odd...
[07:28] <Hobbsee> might ask if we can get that changed..
[07:28] <muzzle> Isn't it possible to compile gtk+ applications without typing a gigant line? Can't I do it wirh just 4-5 arguments or something?
[07:28] <farous> Hobbsee: do not know why they blocked me but thanx for checking
[07:29] <ryan> hey, speaking of pastebin...is there a kicker app i can get for that?
[07:29] <Hobbsee> farous: in regards to the users logging into other people's home directories
[07:29] <Hobbsee> ryan: um, IIRC there's a shell script at the pastebin site in the /topic
[07:29] <farous> ah Hobbsee ok thanx
[07:29] <farous> i assume someone just was asleap when he made the default permissions
[07:30] <ryan> ok
[07:30] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: i think that's a gnome one?
[07:30] <farous> even the default home is /home not the user /user/home
[07:30] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: if it's a shell script, wouldnt it do either?  maybe not, i guess
[07:30] <farous> robotgeek: i did install kubuntu
[07:30] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: the pastebin script hasn't worked for me for quite some time
[07:30] <farous> sorry ment /home/username
[07:30] <Hobbsee> oh, ok
[07:35] <Pur1ty> how do i unrar a rar file?
[07:35] <farous> !rar
[07:35] <ubotu> rar is, like, totally, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:41] <fatejudger> is there something wrong with ALSA or dmix in Dapper?
[07:41] <fatejudger> I can't get more than one application running sound at one time
[07:42] <lubo> hello all, does anyone know about some good P2P client for kubuntu dapper?
[07:42] <robotgeek> lubo: apollon, ktorrent
[07:42] <fatejudger> lubo: ktorrent, definately
[07:43] <lubo> thanks robot ... which you prefer? I could not find amule it seems that it si just for breeze:-)
[07:44] <robotgeek> !info amule
[07:44] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[07:45] <farous> lubo there is limewire and frostwire too
[07:45] <robotgeek> lubo: apollon is for gnutella and fastrack
[07:45] <robotgeek> it also does ares, i think. i havent gotten that to work, however
[07:48] <lubo> E: Couldn't find package ktorrent
[07:48] <fatejudger> universe?
[07:48] <fatejudger> multiverse?
[07:49] <Hobbsee> !+info ktorrent
[07:49] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 325 kB, Installed size: 1248 kB
[07:51] <lubo> ubotu ... what are your apt soruces?
[07:51] <ubotu> lubo: okay
[07:52] <lubo> I got Ubuntu 6.04 Dapper Drake
[07:53] <Hobbsee> it's in dapper, cos i upgraded it...
[07:53] <Hobbsee> !+info ktorrent dapper
[07:53] <ubotu> ktorrent: (BitTorrent client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 738 kB, Installed size: 2272 kB
[08:00] <lubo> cant find it in any of these: ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe  , ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted , ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe ,  ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:01] <robotgeek> lubo: can't be, i too have it installed
[08:01] <robotgeek> lubo: did you apt-get update?
[08:02] <lubo> yes I did but I think I got some other problem with it:-))
[08:03] <lubo> not sure if the problem is on my side or on australien mirror
[08:03] <farous> lubo try the main repos sites
[08:04] <lubo> Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/source/Sources.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:04] <lubo> Failed to fetch http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch
[08:04] <lubo> this is probably my problem...:-)
[08:05] <robotgeek> lubo: probably mirrors are not synced
[08:09] <lubo> thanks guys ... there is problem in australian mirror ... I used US mirror instead and no problem...:_)
[08:09] <farous> lubo: i think you are the one who solved your porb ;)
[08:11] <lubo> well maybe but if you guys dont tell me that the ktorrent is ther I would think that there is no problem and that ktorrent is just not there :-))
[08:12] <lubo> another question is ... is there any chance to get rid of this graphic boot screen ?
[08:13] <lubo> I really like to see backgroud procces during the boot time as I used to have in debian sarge:-))
[08:15] <lubo> If someone know how to do it please let me  know:-)
[08:16] <robotgeek> lubo: i think it has something to with the splash screen, check grub
[08:19] <lubo> well robotgeek it seems that #hiddenmenu option is the right choice...
[08:19] <lubo> let me try it:-)
[08:19] <robotgeek> lubo: not sure, don't have grub :P
[08:20] <lubo> I'm also lilo user with very limited knowledge about grub:-))
[08:20] <lubo> reboot and be back:-)
[08:25] <jindiaz> hey can some help me with an install here?
[08:25] <jindiaz> anyone pplay the game dofus?
[08:25] <jindiaz> is been looking for a linux compatible mmorpg
[08:25] <jindiaz> this one looks ok
[08:25] <jindiaz> need some help installing though
[08:27] <jindiaz> woah deadddddddddd ass chat tonight
[08:27] <jindiaz> damnnnn
[08:28] <jindiaz> damn, aight ill have to find an easy installer or something
[08:28] <Hobbsee> jindiaz: ask that in #ubuntu
[08:28] <Hobbsee> what was the install here?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> *issue
[08:28] <jindiaz> just, like how
[08:29] <jindiaz> relatively new user
[08:29] <lubo> no that was something else... it hides the boot menu
[08:29] <jindiaz> its a zip file
[08:29] <Hobbsee> oh?
[08:29] <Hobbsee> source?
[08:29] <jindiaz> yes i thinkkkkkkkk so
[08:29] <jindiaz> it opens through ark
[08:29] <jindiaz> i think it is source
[08:29] <rysiek|pl> hi there guys
[08:30] <jindiaz> i keep running into this problem
[08:30] <jindiaz> compiling from source
[08:30] <jindiaz> dont know how to do it
[08:30] <rysiek|pl> is anyone "knowledgable" in the USplash topic? :] 
[08:30] <rysiek|pl> !usplash
[08:30] <ubotu> it has been said that usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:30] <robotgeek> !compile
[08:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[08:32] <jindiaz> argh
[08:32] <jindiaz> see i dont understandddd whut that is saying
[08:32] <jindiaz> i need to make my own disstro
[08:32] <jindiaz> one with a button, comile X file....
[08:32] <jindiaz> do do do do do
[08:32] <jindiaz> done and installed
[08:33] <jindiaz> isnt there a way, i type something into the console and it just does it?\
[08:34] <rysiek|pl> there is one, scarcely used:
[08:34] <rysiek|pl> type something in the consol;e, and it will be done
[08:34] <jindiaz> REALLY!?
[08:34] <jindiaz> omg.... plz, if there is like a sensical way that linux functions, plz, tell me
[08:35] <jindiaz> lol
[08:35] <jindiaz> i need to find investors and programmers who share this vsion
[08:35] <jindiaz> make linux user friedly, kill microsfot
[08:35] <jindiaz> basically the main goals
[08:35] <jindiaz> hahahahaha
[08:36] <pulver> stay off the pot :)
[08:36] <rysiek|pl> jindiaz: what *exactly* are you trying to achieve here? get some help? solve a problem? flood the channel?
[08:36] <Hobbsee> jindiaz: it's caled adept...
[08:36] <Hobbsee> rysiek|pl: i suspect the latter
[08:36] <rysiek|pl> aye...
[08:36] <rysiek|pl> same here
[08:36] <jindiaz> alas, cannot smoke my friend, had an allergic reaction awhile back now
[08:36] <jindiaz> yes, because adapt has mmorpgs ryght?
[08:37] <jindiaz> im trying to install an mmorpg
[08:37] <jindiaz> that was just a rant, whut i came here was fro some help on installing things
[08:37] <Hobbsee> rysiek|pl: what do you want help with?
[08:37] <rysiek|pl> usplash
[08:37] <rysiek|pl> :)
[08:38] <rysiek|pl> if I follow the instructions on the wiki, does it *add* my usplash, or *replace* an old one with it?
[08:38] <robotgeek> jindiaz: did you take a look at the link i pointed you to?
[08:38] <Hobbsee> jindiaz: what do you want to install?  what's the name of the mmorg?  is it in apt-get/adept already?  do you need to compile it from source?
[08:38] <jindiaz> im checking that now, just to make sure, but its a gam e called dofus
[08:39] <Dasnipa`> im guessing it wont be on apt
[08:39] <jindiaz> looking for a free, good mmorpg
[08:39] <jindiaz> that runs on linux
[08:39] <Hobbsee> rysiek|pl: i'd suspect it changes the usplash
[08:39] <jindiaz> and is relatively equivalent to ragnarok
[08:39] <Hobbsee> if you already have a usplash, that is
[08:39] <Dasnipa`> jindiaz, crossfire?
[08:40] <jindiaz> naw naw, heres the link
[08:40] <Dasnipa`> me2win, hi
[08:40] <me2win> sup Dasnipa`
[08:40] <jindiaz> http://community.dofus.com/game/encyclo-story.php
[08:40] <Dasnipa`> me2win, i found the craziest thing today im going to pm you a link
[08:41] <me2win> hey, how do i get it so that when i computer starts up, i get to the login screen, not the command prompt
[08:41] <jindiaz> did yu check it out??
[08:41] <jindiaz> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:41] <jindiaz> crap
[08:41] <jindiaz> gotta go
[08:41] <jindiaz> well some other time then
[08:41] <jindiaz> lates all
[08:42] <rysiek|pl> Hobbsee: ok, thx, suspected it too.
[08:43] <rysiek|pl> Now: where can I find info, what the image should be (colour depth) for 1024x768x16bit (vga=791) and how to tell it, what colours should it use for text and background, and how to specify, where the text should be displayed.
[08:43] <rysiek|pl> that's *not* in the wiki :/
[08:44] <me2win> alright back
[08:44] <Hobbsee> rysiek|pl: ahhh....i'd probably recommend google or a howto on ubuntuforums (if there is one) for that...
[08:45] <rysiek|pl> m'kay
[08:47] <Hobbsee> !upslash
[08:47] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:50] <rysiek|pl> !usplash
[08:50] <ubotu> I guess usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:50] <rysiek|pl> here you are ;)
[08:51] <rysiek|pl> I've read it already yestarday, and there's nothing in it, hence my today's question - now lurking on ubuntuforums
[08:53] <Hobbsee> oops...
[09:05] <pulver> is there a default scroll wheel mouse gesture that reloads the firefox window by default? it's really annoying...
[09:23] <lubo> doeas anyone knows how to chanage locales pls?
[09:25] <robotgeek> lubo: sudo apt-get install locales && sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales , i think
[09:25] <rysiek|pl> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:25] <rysiek|pl> too late :P
[09:27] <id_sonic> I can't run freemind on kubuntu breezy...
[09:27] <lubo> thanks guys...:-))
[09:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[09:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have installed all the qt3 libraries
[09:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why when i compile i still get this erro?
[09:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot >= Qt 2.1 beta2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[09:28] <Hobbsee> !info kde-devel
[09:28] <ubotu> kde-devel: (the K Desktop Environment development files and modules), section universe/kde, is extra. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[09:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: is that for me?
[09:29] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: yes
[09:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[09:29] <Hobbsee> it has all the packages that you need for compiling under kde
[09:29] <Hobbsee> apart from xincludes, i think
[09:29] <Hobbsee> maybe they're included nwo
[09:30] <robotgeek> id_sonic: do you have java installed?
[09:30] <robotgeek> !info freemind
[09:32] <id_sonic> robotgeek yes  I install java , I get freemind from "binaries for any operating system - max"
[09:32] <lubo> guys what is the best way to test performance of PC....  because it seems to me that sometimes the system is very slow for no reason
[09:33] <robotgeek> id_sonic: not sure, i don't have java
[09:33] <lubo> it's like there is some other process running on backgroud which causes system is very slow
[09:34] <id_sonic> robotgeek but when I run it by "./freemind.sh", it is stop at the boot logo.
[09:34] <id_sonic> I have java...
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> lubo: is it usually not long after startup?
[09:34] <id_sonic> fred@ubuntu:freemind$ ./freemind.sh
[09:34] <id_sonic> Looking for user properties:
[09:34] <id_sonic> /home/fred/.freemind/user.properties
[09:34] <id_sonic> User properties found.
[09:34] <id_sonic> Default (System) Look & Feel: javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel
[09:34] <id_sonic> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException at java.nio.Buffer.position(Buffer.java:218) at sun.font.TrueTypeFont.lookupName(TrueTypeFont.java:818) at sun.font.TrueTypeFont.getFamilyName(TrueTypeFont.java:884) at sun.java2d.SunGraphicsEnvironment.getAvailableFontFamilyNames(SunGraphicsEnvironment.java:476)
[09:35] <id_sonic>  at sun.java2d.SunGrphicsEnvironment.getAvailableFontFamilyNames(SunGraphicsEnevironment.java:494) at freemind.main.Tools.getAvailableFontFamilyNames(Tools.java:179) at freemind.main.Tools.isAvailableFontFamily(Tools.java:202) at freemind.controller.Controller.<init>(Controller.java:228) at freemind.main.FreeMind.<init>(FreeMind.java:227) at freemind.main.FreeMind.main(FreeMind.java:647)
[09:35] <robotgeek> !paste
[09:35] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[09:35] <id_sonic> sorry
[09:36] <rysiek|pl> lubo: is the system slowing down not long after startup?
[09:36] <lubo> rysielkpl: well I did try breezy  before I installed dapper and breeeze was slow even during instalation
[09:36] <lubo> and the whole system was like 15s to open firefox:-))
[09:36] <rysiek|pl> lubo: what I mean is: a minute or two after startup the updatedb program update's the locate database
[09:36] <lubo> straight after and also during the boot process
[09:37] <rysiek|pl> it takes a minute and then it should all be ok
[09:37] <rysiek|pl> hmmm
[09:37] <lubo> ryskiekpl: ok but then it is slow al the time...
[09:37] <rysiek|pl> don't know about the boot process, but after it's booted, you can try to run top from console
[09:37] <rysiek|pl> !top
[09:37] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek|pl
[09:38] <rysiek|pl> argh
[09:38] <rysiek|pl> ok, do a man top
[09:38] <rysiek|pl> from console - that should give you info on the command
[09:38] <lubo> I did that... so many processes... I did also reduce services but no help
[09:38] <rysiek|pl> basically it displays the top few programs using the most of system resources
[09:38] <rysiek|pl> what do you have on the top of this list?
[09:39] <lubo> give me second..
[09:40] <lubo> Xorg
[09:40] <rysiek|pl> ah, XOrg... well, you shouldn't kill it, should you ;)
[09:40] <rysiek|pl> do uptime please
[09:41] <lubo> yes I know... top seems to me ok...
[09:41] <rysiek|pl> and paste the load average
[09:42] <lubo> load average: 0.44, 0.90, 0.80
[09:43] <lubo> I hade for whole year debian testing and the performance was much better...
[09:43] <lubo> this is P4 1G RAM :-))
[09:43] <rysiek|pl> well, it seems that your cpu is quite heavy loaded :|
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> maybe try to look at top for a minute or two and see if something doesn't pop above XOrg from time to time, taking a *lot* of CPU
[09:46] <lubo> ok... doing taht now...what is hald?
[09:46] <lubo> user hal :-)
[09:46] <lubo> I also do not want to kill init:-))
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> no you dont ;)
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> hal is Hardware Abstraction Layer
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> !hal
[09:47] <ubotu> HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) is a library and daemon to get hotplug notifications as hardware is added and removed.
[09:47] <lubo> what I also dont like on instalation of dapper is that I did not realy to have a chance to select my packages...
[09:47] <lubo> thanks ubotu
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> I don't have any ideas for this one :/ I suppose it has to be something with the config, but...
[09:48] <seank> anyone know what causes the "X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3" error?
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> lubo, OMT: uname -r
[09:49] <lubo> 2.6.15-12-386  --- I know i should have 686 but no difference...
[09:49] <lubo> fist I tought fist that this is DMA problem but DMA is enabled...
[09:50] <rysiek|pl> I would try with 686, that's the last idea I have
[09:50] <lubo> linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 souds good to you?
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> 2.6.12-10-686 I think should also be available
[09:52] <lubo> how about linux-image-2.6.15-16-686?
[09:52] <lubo> :-)
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> even better :] 
[09:53] <lubo> :-) instalation in progress....
[09:53] <rysiek|pl> ok, gonna go testing my new usplash image, cu in 5-10 mins ;)
[09:53] <lubo> thnaks see you
[09:54] <vijay> hi, I just connected motorola mobile phone with windows mobile operating system via usb cable, how to access it??
[09:55] <vijay> i wnat to copy my photos into it?? help me?
[09:56] <pulver> now thats something i would never buy.. a mobile phone running windows.. have no idea how to access it though
[09:57] <rysiek|pl> back
[09:57] <robotgeek> vijay: not sure, really
[09:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: as you told me i installed all the kde-dev
[09:57] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: yep?
[09:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot >= Qt 2.1 beta2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[09:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: the result is the same:
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> usplash doesn't work, damn :/
[09:58] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu: sometimes you have to specify the qt-libs directly
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> lubo, guess what I'm gonna do now
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how?
[09:58] <Hobbsee> trying to remember that
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[09:59] <jalf> just push it
[09:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how?
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> darn, gotta go. cu all you guys later
[10:00] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: it's something to the effect of --includes=/etc/qt3/includes or wherever they are
[10:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok let me try
[10:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Hobbsee: are you sure of /etc/qt3/includes?
[10:01] <Hobbsee> --with-kde-includes=/opt/kde/include/kde
[10:01] <Hobbsee> nope
[10:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[10:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same error
[10:02] <Hobbsee>  /usr/include/qt3/
[10:02] <Hobbsee> is the file path that you want
[10:03] <lubo> Tallia what are you tring to compile?
[10:03] <datn> hi guys
[10:03] <Hobbsee> --with-kde-headers=/usr/something/or/other/path/to/headers
[10:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> there's includedir
[10:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kinsectizid
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> --with-qt-includes
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[10:04] <Hobbsee> ah fun
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> really?
[10:04] <datn> -p
[10:04] <datn> !p
[10:04] <ubotu> datn: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:05] <datn> !what the
[10:05] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, datn
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i always have this qt problems
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !ubotu
[10:05] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[10:05] <datn> hi, if i plug a usb drive, how can i tell what dev it is?
[10:06] <datn> so i can mount
[10:06] <lubo> if it is mounted ... try mount command
[10:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there still something missing?
[10:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ./configure --prefix='/usr' --with-kde-includes=/opt/kde/include/kde --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3 --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt3/
[10:06] <lubo> it you do not know what to mount try fdisk -l
[10:06] <datn> lubo it isnt mount
[10:08] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu: why are kde includes in /opt, and --prefix=/usr
[10:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> boh !! :)
[10:08] <lubo> datn: it is not mounted? and you do not know what to mount?
[10:08] <datn> lubo fidks -l only list the harddisk partition
[10:08] <lubo> what you need?
[10:09] <datn> yes i don't know what to mount
[10:09] <frantic> how can i force console mode?
[10:09] <datn> it isnt mounted and i wanted to know what dev to mount....
[10:09] <frantic> on boot?
[10:09] <datn> force control ctrl + alt + 1
[10:09] <frantic> man
[10:09] <datn> f+1 or f7
[10:10] <frantic> whenever i press ctrl+alt+f1, it goes to a blank black screen
[10:10] <lubo> dant: it also tells you device name... its l like list
[10:10] <frantic> ever since i installed nvidia drivers
[10:10] <frantic> which are working fine
[10:10] <datn> frantic then
[10:10] <datn> press alt + f2
[10:10] <datn> u are probably using vesa driver
[10:10] <frantic> ctrl+alt+f2?
[10:10] <datn> no alt + f2
[10:10] <frantic> that brings up a run command prompt
[10:11] <lubo> dant: partiotion is that what you want to mount...
[10:11] <datn> to stop kde from boot at start, change inittab default run level 3
[10:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> robotgeek: could you help me in having this working?
[10:11] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu: i gotta hit the sack, sorry
[10:12] <datn> lubo I don't understand you, when i plug the usb device, which name does it assign for that device
[10:12] <datn> is there such a program for you to find out?
[10:12] <robotgeek> datn: /dev/sdX
[10:12] <robotgeek> if it's a storage
[10:12] <robotgeek> lsusb
[10:12] <datn> robotgeek so the x is 1 - 9 ?
[10:13] <datn> so i haev to try sd1 - sd9 ?
[10:13] <datn> i mean sda, sdb, sdc....
[10:13] <datn> sda1,sdc1-9... is there a way that i can tell right away when device name is assigned to the usb device?
[10:14] <robotgeek> datn: yip
[10:14] <tomas_> anyone knows how to do a wmv to mpeg (dvd) conversion?
[10:15] <tomas_> its really important to me
[10:15] <datn> what is ?
[10:16] <tomas_> .WMV to mpeg (dvd) conversion!
[10:17] <tomas_> i really wanna get my ps3 trailers burned out without booting to windows
[10:19] <frantic> alright, whenever i go into console only mode, it doesn't display on my screen, ever since i installed the nvidia driver. Like i still logged in and was able to reboot the system, but nothing was disaplyed on the screen. any ideas?
[10:20] <tomas_> do you mean that x doesnt start?
[10:20] <frantic> the driver is installed perfectly and works great with x, but for some reason won't display for console
[10:20] <tomas_> that you are stuck in console mode?
[10:20] <frantic> no i need to go into console mode
[10:20] <frantic> but when i do the text isn't displayed, only a blank black screen
[10:20] <tomas_> :/
[10:20] <frantic> im in console mode, but nothing is displayed
[10:20] <tomas_> have you tried to write like sudo reboot now?
[10:20] <tomas_> or something
[10:21] <tomas_> just to see if there is response?
[10:21] <lubo> frantci you menat that no characters are displayed?
[10:21] <frantic> right, nothing at all, black screen
[10:21] <frantic> no cursor no nothing
[10:22] <lubo> did you recompile your kernel by your self?
[10:22] <frantic> apt-get linux-386 linux-headers-386
[10:22] <frantic> i followed the tutorial on ubuntuforums.org to install the nvidia driver
[10:23] <frantic> it works great with kde running
[10:23] <frantic> what should i search google for
[10:23] <frantic> ?
[10:23] <lubo> the reason why I'm asking is that I hade the same problem but it was my fauld and it was problem with kernel not VGA driver...
[10:23] <frantic> hmmm
[10:23] <frantic> so recompile?
[10:24] <lubo> cat /proc/cpuinfo -- what cpu you have?
[10:24] <frantic> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
[10:25] <lubo> frantic: when you boot you can see characters on the screen?
[10:25] <lubo> model name?
[10:27] <lubo> reboot
[10:32] <Tonio_> hi
[10:33] <tomas_away> hi tonio
[10:46] <tomcatt> does anyone know the link to how to install ati drivers?
[10:46] <Hobbsee> !ati
[10:46] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:48] <tomcatt> thinks guys
[10:49] <tomcatt> what?  that's a bot?
[10:49] <tomcatt> so if i need any info type in that "!" and what I want?
[10:49] <tomcatt> sweet
[10:59] <GDG> hi
[10:59] <GDG> what_is_the_default_root_password?
[10:59] <Hobbsee> !root
[10:59] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:59] <Hobbsee> tomcatt: yes, ubotu is a bot
[10:59] <Hobbsee> !tell tomcatt about yourself
[11:02] <Evil_H> !java
[11:02] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:05] <otacon2> !hi
[11:05] <ubotu> hi!
[11:05] <otacon2> This is so great
[11:05] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:10] <tomcatt> !tell
[11:11] <tomcatt> !tell tomcatt
[11:11] <tomcatt> !tell tomcatt about yourself
[11:11] <Tm_T> ubotu: what's up
[11:11] <ubotu> everything is okay thanks
[11:11] <Tm_T> ...liar
[11:23] <LivingTarget> is there any way to get rid of the <2> thing that appears in the title bar when you got two windows from the same program open?
[11:24] <Ilokaasu> why to get rid of it :)
[11:25] <Ilokaasu> or do you mean that when u press some icon, it opens 2 windows instead of one ?
[11:27] <mr-russ> LivingTarget: no.
[11:27] <chaotic> do you mean the grouping of windows?
[11:27] <LivingTarget> ill show you anyway
[11:27] <LivingTarget> brb take a screenshot
[11:27] <mr-russ> no, he means, open Thunderbird, double and inbox, and it will open another window with <2> appended.
[11:28] <chaotic> ah ic
[11:31] <Evil_H> !java
[11:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:31] <LivingTarget> http://www.ttr-dcli.org/~squad/titlebar.jpg like mr-russ said, sorry to see you cant get rid of it :(
[12:18] <willvarfar> howdy folks; I've installed gcc4.0, but when I compile from the command line it complains that it can't find stdio.h nor any other headers I'd expect; I can't find them in an exhaustive search of the harddisk either; what package should I install to get them?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> kde-devel, usually
[12:20] <willvarfar> do I have to install the entire KDE dev stuff?  is there any package just for the std lib?
[12:24] <willvarfar> anyone curious, it is in build-essential
[12:29] <zax1> kubutu....i like
[12:29] <zax1> just installed ubuntu on another unit
[12:29] <zax1> is it my imagination or is kubuntu much faster ?
[12:35] <azathoth> i have the dapper flight 4 of kubuntu burnt off on a disc, can i use that to upgrade from breezy? and if so... how?
[12:42] <italo> hi
[12:43] <italo> someone can help me about admin password refused by system in configuration tools?
[12:57] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[12:58] <linuxboyfriend> during the configuring some package i get this message "configure: WARNING: Your libstdc++ doesn't appear to be patched for visibility support. Disabling -fvisibility=hidden" can anyone tell me what tha mean and how can i fix it?
[01:05] <mr-russ> linuxboyfriend: which packages, which version?
[01:07] <LeeJunFan_> argh!?! WTF? no more america's army for linux?
[01:07] <Tm_T> sounds good
[01:10] <tijn> OT: anyone knows how i can add an /28 range in a Cisco pix access-list?
[01:11] <tecs> hi how can i safely remove my ipood? so i just can charge it without the harddrives spinning
[01:21] <confrey> hi everybody
[01:22] <tijn> hi somebody ;)
[01:23] <ccc_> LeeJunFan_: what? says who?
[01:23] <confrey> I'm trying ot use kde in ubuntu, but : can I have a monitor of cpu frequency, as in gnome? and can I have automatic mount of cd and usb memory, as in gnome?
[01:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 	  float    *( sets[NSets]  );
[01:24] <tecs> yes, use kcpuload
[01:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anybody knows what does that mean?
[01:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am in java and this is cryptic
[01:28] <confrey> tecs, and can I simply manage governor and frequency too, as in gnome?
[01:29] <tecs> confrey, that im not sure but im using it right now to monitor loads....
[01:32] <Evil_H> !kde 3.5
[01:32] <ubotu> kde 3.5 is, like, totally, at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[01:36] <puckman> KDE 3.5 rocks
[01:52] <scrondle> Hello
[01:52] <scrondle> I am having a pretty strange file system problem.
[01:52] <scrondle> Anyone have expertise in this area?
[01:54] <scrondle> Anyone? Seems pretty dead.
[01:55] <scrondle> Hello?
[02:21] <buz> !w32codes
[02:21] <ubotu> buz: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:21] <buz> !w32codecs
[02:21] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:24] <egonw_> is it save to upgrade to dapper yet? I don't mind a few broken things... and would report problem I find
[02:24] <ubijtsa2> egonw_: I've been runnung it for a couple weeks now, seems alright to me
[02:25] <ubijtsa2> running even
[02:25] <egonw_> it has a 2.6.15 kernel, right?
[02:30] <jure> right
[02:30] <egonw_> is apt-get dist-upgrade supposed to work better than with breezy?
[02:32] <visik7> uh ?
[02:32] <visik7> what's wrong with dist-upgrade in general ?
[02:32] <egonw_> in general nothing...
[02:33] <visik7> btw I suggest aptitude dist-upgrade (it works better than apt-get )
[02:33] <egonw_> but there were many people who could not upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 using apt-get
[02:33] <egonw_> e.g., for me it failed
[02:40] <visik7> egonw_: have u tried to use aptitude instead of apt-get ?
[02:40] <egonw_> not when upgrading to breezy
[02:41] <egonw_> but will use that when I decide to move to dapper
[02:41] <egonw_> thanx for the tip
[02:41] <lwelyn> hello there.
[02:42] <lwelyn> I have 2 little questions, if somebody want to help me a bit plz tell me.
[02:42] <egonw_> lwelyn: ask them... then people can decide
[02:43] <buz> firefox keeps crashing on dapper on my desktop
[02:43] <buz> but works just fine on my notebook (which even uses xgl)
[02:43] <lwelyn> 1. I have a soundcard and a usb headset( with soundchip inside ) . the soundcard is setuped as 0 and usb as 1. the system always takes the soundcard as standart. how can i change this?
[02:44] <egonw_> lwelyn: dunno how to change the order...
[02:44] <egonw_> but with most programs you can set which /dev/dsp to use
[02:44] <lwelyn> 2. I need to install the MPlayer ( with all the codex stuff youll need to watch avi movies ) .
[02:44] <buz> lwelyn: See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:44] <egonw_> lwelyn: google for the unoffical FAQ or so...
[02:45] <buz> !wp
[02:45] <ubotu> buz: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:45] <buz> !wpa
[02:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant".  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto for more details
[02:45] <lwelyn> thank you
[02:46] <buz> weird world
[02:46] <buz> i can get xgl to work on my laptop just fine
[02:46] <buz> but not wpa ;)
[02:50] <phantom_> hello all
[02:50] <phantom_> anyone up at this time of night?
[02:50] <scrondle> Hello
[02:50] <phantom_> hello!
[02:51] <scrondle> It is the morning here ;)
[02:51] <phantom_> ah.  well, it's night in Korea.
[02:51] <phantom_> you happen to know much about Kubuntu?
[02:51] <scrondle> A bit. What's going on?
[02:51] <tijn> this time of night?
[02:51] <phantom_> i would take more time to chat, but i'm running low on time atm.
[02:51] <phantom_> need to go to bed soon.  have to get up at 0300 tomorrow
[02:52] <scrondle> Yikes.
[02:52] <phantom_> my wifi card keeps dropping.
[02:52] <tijn> its 14:52 here :)
[02:52] <phantom_> it's a WG311T card.
[02:52] <scrondle> After a reboot or just at random?
[02:52] <phantom_> err WG311 version2 card
[02:52] <phantom_> any time.   i used to be just random, but now it's gone even after reboot.
[02:52] <phantom_> it's odd.
[02:53] <phantom_> usually this doesn't happen.
[02:53] <scrondle> Is there a native driver for that card or are you using ndiswrapper?
[02:53] <phantom_> on the other OS (mandriva) the wifi card works fine.  but when i reboot into Kubuntu, it doesn't work.
[02:54] <scrondle> There is some funny stuff with the network config in Kubuntu. The best bet is to check if the config file is alright and avoid using the user interface.
[02:54] <phantom_> well, as far as ndiswrapper goes, i did in Mandriva, but not in Kubuntu.  Kubuntu saw it default during installation.
[02:54] <scrondle> On my machine it sometimes truncates the file.
[02:54] <phantom_> oh?
[02:54] <phantom_> that's just great.
[02:54] <scrondle> I can't remember the name of the file at the moment. Let me look.
[02:54] <phantom_> now, to learn how to use the config file and where it's located.
[02:55] <scrondle> It is in etc. Once I got it going it worked great.
[02:55] <scrondle> I also went from Mandrake to Kubuntu.
[02:55] <scrondle> I'll look for the file and brb
[02:55] <phantom_> thanks!
[02:56] <phantom_> yeah, mandrake is running great on my sstem, but i've heard great thing about Ubuntu, but didn't like gnome.  so when i heard about Kubuntu, i had to try it out.
[02:57] <scrondle> I don't remember what the file was. I am at work, and this machine is Mandrake. If you look at the Kubuntu forums I know there is a howto there for which is how I got it working.
[02:57] <phantom_> oh thanks a lot.  i appriciate the hand.
[02:58] <phantom_> i'll be stopping in here a bit more to chat around as soon as i can get my desktop up and running with wifi again.  i hate using this laptop.
[02:59] <phantom_> but for now it's time to go to bed.  it's 2300 and i have to be up at 0300.  not much time to sleep, so i gotta get.
[02:59] <phantom_> thanks again, scrondle!
[02:59] <scrondle> Good luck.
[03:10] <jockitch> I'm stuck in dependency hell missing libflac4. any known solution?
[03:11] <m0ns00n> What are you trying to install?
[03:12] <jockitch> vlc
[03:12] <m0ns00n> Which depends on libflac4
[03:12] <jockitch> yes =)
[03:12] <m0ns00n> And libflac4 is not available?
[03:12] <jockitch> can't find it
[03:13] <jockitch> not in the package manager nor on the website from what I could see
[03:13] <jockitch> been googleing after it for a while now =)
[03:33] <tomas_> hi
[03:33] <tomas_> i have forgotten the name of a supernice frontend for administrate apache, mysql, proftpd and many other software
[03:33] <tomas_> can you help me with the name ;)
[03:33] <tomas_> ?
[03:35] <tijn> tomas_- webmin?
[03:36] <tomas_> thanks :d
[03:36] <tomas_> perfect :d
[03:36] <tomas_> bye
[03:38] <hDp`> merc fr
[03:38] <mvv> Is it possible to dist-upgrade in breezy and keep the sources.list as it was?
[03:39] <mvv> I ask this because that's what i've done and Kwin is crashing sometimes :(
[04:02] <Celeste> hi
[04:02] <Celeste> does GNOME run stable on Kubuntu?
[04:02] <tijn> erhm for gnome, i think u want Ubuntu
[04:02] <tijn> Kubuntu is ubuntu with kde
[04:02] <Celeste> tijn, but the thing is ... I use kubuntu *g*
[04:03] <Celeste> tijn, and I wanted to test gnome
[04:03] <tijn> well, it will work
[04:04] <tijn> i think
[04:07] <ccc_> Celeste: won't be a problem. only a big download :)
[04:11] <bushito> !mp3
[04:11] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[04:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:12] <_djib> hey, is there a way to quickly swap from English aspell to let's say French aspell ?
[04:18] <_b> in control center there is a language meny, u can have it setup for have in panel for easy switching
[04:19] <_djib> but that will change the keyboard mapping as well won't it ?
[04:19] <_b> aha aspell is somekinda dictonary ?
[04:20] <djib> yes
[04:20] <_b> i read question wrong
[04:20] <djib> don't worry
[04:20] <djib> it's a spell checker
[04:29] <isalbai> hola
[04:29] <mvv> anyone?
[04:30] <isalbai> hi
[04:30] <RomanK> Hi all...
[04:31] <mijndert> hi =)
[04:31] <RomanK> does anyone remember what to put into xorg.conf to slow down the mouse-cursor?
[04:39] <one> anyone know about sound card issues?
[04:42] <arrinmurr> are there any official or non-official readily installed vmware kubuntu images somewhere?
[04:46] <markfoged> Hey... A little help please? I'm writing a project in a group of five, and when I make pdf files with pdflatex, they're unreadable for the guys in my group that are using Windows? Any suggestions as to how I fix that?
[05:20] <bushito> !wma
[05:20] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:32] <bushito> ] 
[05:33] <ubuntu> :-)
[05:37] <ubuntu> hello
[05:43] <Pinaraf> Hi
[05:43] <Pinaraf> I'd like to know : it kubuntu dapper using XIM as default settings for european languages like French ?
[05:44] <puckman> I would like to know if Japanese input will be easier to settup in dapper
[05:45] <puckman> I have been unable to do so on my present release :(
[05:46] <vikke> !mp3
[05:46] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[05:46] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:52] <puckman> Does anyone know what Gnome users have against KDE?
[05:52] <Supervisor> I need to know what packages the DVD version of Breezy contains
[05:52] <Supervisor> How can I get it?
[05:52] <puckman> It's getting a bit boring getting slated everywhere
[05:52] <puckman> I thought the DVD version was live and install in one.
[05:53] <puckman> and a few extra packages, does distrowatch not have a list?
[05:53] <Supervisor> There must be much more
[05:53] <puckman> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu
[05:53] <Supervisor> It's 3.1 GB
[05:53] <Supervisor> I've seen that already
[05:53] <Supervisor> It's for the CD
[05:53] <Supervisor> Not the DVD
[05:54] <puckman> ah, sorry.
[05:55] <Supervisor> Don't mention it puckman
[05:55] <Pinaraf> Supervisor: you can see it on the server... please wait, I'm searching
[05:56] <puckman> Supervisor: found it
[05:56] <puckman> http://www.linuxcdmall.com/kubuntu.html
[05:56] <puckman> that page has a link of all packages
[05:56] <Supervisor> Thanks puckman
[05:56] <Supervisor> I'll check
[05:56] <puckman> shit, no
[05:57] <puckman> sorry, they say dvd but the actualy list is cd
[05:57] <Pinaraf> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/kubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.list
[05:58] <Supervisor> Thanks guys
[06:03] <jarlath> Has anyone gotten kwifimanager to switch between networks sucessfully? It tells me I have an "invalid wep key", sometimes even for my own network, which doesnt use WEP!
[06:04] <DevGet> is there any sound-program that catch the sound arts send out?
[06:05] <kosh> DevGet: not sure what you mean
[06:06] <DevGet> kosh: I mean a program which record the output sound
[06:11] <kosh> hmm I would have though that krec would do it however I have not done audio recording in a very very long time
[06:26] <Psi-Jack> What's the deal with resolvconf?
[06:40] <clearscreen> just a little question, Im installing kubuntu now, but I fucked up on wireless network config.. is there a wireless network gui proggy in kde?
[06:41] <kosh> there is
[06:41] <kosh> it is under system settings -> network settings
[06:41] <kosh> however I can't help you with it since I don't do wireless
[06:41] <kosh> ah there seems to be a better idea
[06:42] <kosh> use kwifimanager
[06:42] <clearscreen> heh ok.. was just wondering if it features a list of wireless networks it picked up..
[06:42] <kosh> if it is not installed do sudo apt-get install kwifimanager
[06:42] <clearscreen> because  there's like 10 in my area :P
[06:42] <kosh> ah s oyou don't have your own connection and just use other peoples connections?
[06:42] <clearscreen> kosh I know how to install using apt but thats a little hard without network access :P
[06:43] <clearscreen> or.. is it on the cd?
[06:43] <clearscreen> Im using Kubuntu Dapper flight 4
[06:43] <kosh> no idea if it is on the cd
[06:43] <kosh> look and see
[06:43] <clearscreen> hm ok :p
[06:44] <clearscreen> hmmm lol the screen blacked out
[06:44] <clearscreen> no hdd activity
[06:45] <clearscreen> hmmmm it does have activity when I press enter.. weird :p
[06:47] <clearscreen> must be the xserver fucking
[06:48] <clearscreen> behhh -_- booting to safe
[06:52] <clearscreen> lowered the reso settings it still wont boot..wtf ;P
[06:58] <clearscreen> I get black screen when doing startx
[06:58] <kosh> what graphics chip/
[06:58] <clearscreen> ATI X700 PCI-E
[06:58] <clearscreen> mobile :P
[06:58] <clearscreen> on my laptop
[06:59] <vikke> !mp3
[06:59] <Glin|Jol> Winamp not Running
[06:59] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:09] <kosh> clearscreen: are you using the free software driver or the ati binary one?
[07:13] <one> hello?
[07:13] <Extreme_Unction> Hi
[07:17] <MetaMorfoziS> hi
[07:19] <DaSkreec1> Is there a kubuntu+1?
[07:21] <dark_suic> kubuntu+1?
[07:21] <dark_suic> what do you mean?
[07:21] <Riddell> dapper is the next version of kubuntu, dapper + 1 is the one after that
[07:22] <Riddell> put ideas here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFutureIdeas
[07:23] <frank23> Riddell: where should I report kde 3.5.1 bugs? Right now the keyboard layouts are all missing from the configuration dialog
[07:23] <DaSkreec1> dark_suic: Join #ubuntu
[07:24] <Riddell> frank23: that's fixed in dapper
[07:24] <frank23> I can get around it with setxkbmap -layout ca -variant fr commands
[07:24] <frank23> Riddell: ok. is it only a problem with kde 3.5 ?
[07:24] <dark_suic> oh, ok
[07:25] <Riddell> frank23: yes
[07:25] <jarlath> How do I blank my DVD-RW in k3b? The format option didnt work because it only needs to be done once at the start, and the 'erase CDRW' option didnt work because it knew the DVD wasnt a CD.
[07:25] <frank23> Riddell: ok thanks.
[07:25] <DaSkreec1> dark_suic: Yeah :-) I keep wondering when they will have Kubuntu dapper update pages :-(
[07:27] <Riddell> DaSkreec1: how do you mean?
[07:28] <Riddell> jarlath: it should blank it when you burn new stuff to the disk
[07:28] <DaSkreec1> Well new things in the latest Dapper flight CD or Dapper updates for Ubuntu get digged and slashdotted all the time
[07:29] <DaSkreec1> How come there aren't any comprehensive Kbunutu dapper updates with KHotNewStuff?
[07:29] <jarlath> Riddell I want to give it to someone else so they can use it. They cant blank it on their mac because they dont have permission.
[07:31] <buz> you mean they can burn stuff but dont erase it?
[07:31] <buz> weird
[07:31] <one> hi! so i loaded my soundcard fine but i'm having trouble setting it up to remember it at install
[07:31] <one> ...at login
[07:31] <Riddell> DaSkreec1: if you want to do release notes for the flight CDs that would be very welcome
[07:32] <Riddell> DaSkreec1: what sort of updates from hot new stuff?
[07:32] <jarlath> buz they cant delete the files on it and theres no room to burn anything.
[07:34] <DaSkreec1> Riddell: Not release notes :-) I can read those (and I do)
[07:34] <DaSkreec1> I meant something with a synopsis with pictures that makes people say ohhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh oooooooooeeeerrrr
[07:35] <DaSkreec1> That will make them send the link as soon as a friend logs into IM with the short message "read that!"
[07:35] <Riddell> DaSkreec1: that's what I was meaning.  it just takes someone to do it
[07:38] <visik7> hi
[07:38] <DaSkreec1> Ah ok
[07:38] <visik7> how can I install gcc 4.1 on breezy ?
[07:43] <cake81> new to linux and need a little help getting firefox up and running, anyone?
[07:43] <jarlath> I used cdrecord blank=disc to do it. k3b actually cant do this it seems.
[07:44] <visik7> cake81: apt-get install firefox
[07:44] <visik7> cake81: or run adept search for firefox and install it
[07:45] <Riddell> visik7: compile it yourself (having been only released 2 days ago it won't be in a distribution that's several months old)
[07:45] <cake81> I went for a download on the web since the version known to apt was 1.0.7
[07:45] <visik7> Riddell: isn't there a package in dapper that I can backport ?
[07:45] <Riddell> visik7: no, dapper is using gcc 4.0
[07:46] <visik7> :/
[07:46] <visik7> I need only gcj
[07:46] <visik7> not entiere gcc
[07:46] <cake81> I've untared the tar-ball but which file should be executed?
[07:46] <Riddell> visik7: gcj 4.1 I believe is in dapper
[07:46] <visik7> Riddell: oook
[07:46] <frank23> cake81: there should be an install script
[07:46] <Riddell> since gcj 4.0 is more broken
[07:46] <frank23> cake81: make sure you run it as user. (no sudo)
[07:47] <cake81> am I'm supposed to click on the firefox* script ? nothing happens
[07:48] <Dasnipa`> cake81, often in linux 'clicking' on things is nto what you wanna do... typing in console > *
[07:49] <frank23> cake81: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:49] <muzzle> Any C++ people in here? :D
[07:49] <visik7> Riddell: I've deb-src of dapper I need to know what package "apt-get source"ing to get gcj 4.1.0 works do u know ?
[07:49] <Dasnipa`> cake81, how long have you been running linux (checking to see if youll need g++ installed and make and stuff)
[07:50] <Dasnipa`> muzzle, why?
[07:50] <Riddell> visik7: gcj-4.1
[07:51] <frank23> cake81: use the "quick and dirty" method. I did something like that
[07:52] <muzzle> Dasnipa`: Beacuse I'm trying to compile some C++ code which works fine under windows but I can't make it work here.
[07:52] <muzzle> first a linker problem
[07:52] <muzzle> which I _THINK_ I've solved
[07:52] <DaSkreec1> Riddell: I assume that https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFutureIdeas meant major
[07:52] <DaSkreec1> not mayor?
[07:52] <muzzle> but now I get some memoryerror
[07:52] <Dasnipa`> hrm
[07:53] <Dasnipa`> could be any number of things
[07:53] <Riddell> DaSkreec1: probably, please fix
[07:53] <cake81> that ubuntu-wiki thing worked out :)
[07:55] <Dasnipa`> muzzle, is the code something part of a public app/util or your own code?
[08:00] <muzzle> my own code
[08:00] <muzzle> for this project at the unveristy
[08:00] <muzzle> university
[08:07] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:10] <moret> hi people
[08:10] <moret> what are you talking about?
[08:10] <moret> i'm so bored..
[08:10] <juha_> heh
[08:10] <Dasnipa`> erm.. we talk about dev stuff
[08:10] <moret> aaammm
[08:10] <juha_> no mit ny
[08:11] <Dasnipa`> and help people with linux
[08:11] <moret> aaammm
[08:11] <moret> interesting..
[08:11] <DaSkreec1> moret: What do you talk about?
[08:11] <moret> DaSkreec1: NOTHING
[08:11] <moret> xD
[08:11] <Dasnipa`> moret sounds like an AOLer to me...
[08:11] <moret> hahaha
[08:12] <DaSkreec1> Could be on CSPAN
[08:12] <moret> Dasnipa`: moret is a catalan word
[08:12] <jpowers> Dasnipa`: that's harsh
[08:12] <Dasnipa`> i didnt meant the nick i meant the entering chat saying im bored etc
[08:12] <Dasnipa`> i was expecting a/s/l next
[08:12] <moret> aaaaaammmmmmmmm
[08:12] <jpowers> haha
[08:13] <jpowers> man
[08:13] <juha_> what program extract rpm files
[08:13] <jpowers> alien?
[08:13] <moret> i am thinking about to become my breezy kubuntu in dapper
[08:13] <DaSkreec1> juha_: file-roller
[08:13] <moret> rpmextract
[08:13] <xiO__> alien is nice
[08:13] <Dasnipa`> juha_, youll want to convert them to deb generally
[08:14] <DaSkreec1> moret: You know you can wait a month right? ;-)
[08:14] <DaSkreec1> Then again I suppose it would give you something to talk about
[08:15] <moret> DaSkreec1: nooooo
[08:15] <moret> xD
[08:15] <moret> do you know the day?
[08:15] <moret> 1 april?
[08:16] <moret> I need dapper
[08:16] <Dasnipa`> no i think its near the end of apr
[08:16] <moret> xD
[08:16] <moret> :'(
[08:19] <NRG88> hi, i found a package kubuntu-artwork-usplash, that must be the splash screen of kubuntu
[08:19] <NRG88> i'm using ubuntu now, how can i change it to ubuntu-artwork-usplash?
[08:19] <NRG88> there's no package with this name
[08:19] <apokryphos> NRG88: remove that kubuntu package.
[08:20] <NRG88> onyl ubuntu-artwork
[08:20] <leafw> any hints on when GCC 4.1 will be available ?
[08:21] <NRG88> the ubuntu is "default"?
[08:21] <Pinaraf> leafw: I saw some gcc 4.1 packages today, in dapper
[08:24] <_tommy> italiani?
[08:25] <wk> can someone help me with sane/xsane? i have a brother scanner and i made the installation like described on brother site, bur xsane doesn't load
[08:32] <DaSkreec1> Yeah It's normally in the second to last week I think
[08:33] <wk2001> nobody an idea?
[08:33] <kitsch> i installed kubuntu dapper flight 4 a few days ago, and since then i can't get bittorrent to work. i finally found out that watchdog is running on PID 3 (ie when kubuntu starts). could that be the problem? i've tried to uninstall it but apt says watchdog is not installed, and for some reason the process won't die.
[08:35] <kitsch> forgot to mention i tried ktorrent, azureus and opera bittorrent, and i've checked my routers settings quite carefully of course :)
[08:38] <klaus> hey i have a ?
[08:38] <klaus> anyone here?
[08:38] <boz> Hey! can someone point me in the right direction to the executable Beep player file ( to make an m3u file play using Beep automatically)/
[08:39] <trappist> boz: `which bmp`
[08:39] <klaus> i need help installing limwire
[08:39] <klaus> i have it downloaded and in .rmp format..
[08:39] <klaus> now what?
[08:39] <kitsch> klaus: why didn't you download a deb?
[08:39] <klaus> what?
[08:40] <klaus> whats deb?
[08:40] <boz> trappist ver 0.9.7
[08:40] <trappist> klaus: redhat, mandrake and suse use rpms.  ubuntu and debian use debs.
[08:40] <klaus> oooooooooooo
[08:40] <kitsch> klaus: debs are the kind of precompiled packages that ubuntu/kubuntu uses
[08:40] <klaus> my bad..
[08:40] <klaus> i'm new to the linux world
[08:41] <klaus> is there anyway for me to open this one tho..?
[08:41] <klaus> its the only version they had for linux
[08:41] <kitsch> klaus: i suggest you go to http://www.frostwire.com/ and download the debian/ubuntu package. then go to the terminal and type "sudo dpkg -i <package name>", and enter your password to install it
[08:42] <kitsch> klaus: frostwire is a clone of limewire without copyright filter
[08:42] <trappist> boz: sorry, I meant in a console type "which beep-media-player" and the answer will be the location
[08:42] <boz> trappist: lol, i wondered that thanks!
[08:43] <hickselor> hi
[08:43] <kitsch> klaus: if you really want limewire, i suggest you read this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[08:43] <Borelia> !wlan
[08:43] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Borelia
[08:43] <klaus> na i'll go with that program u sent me
[08:43] <hickselor> i've got a big prob. everytime when i want to reboot or shutdown kubuntu it just hang up and the screen stay black. but the notebook is still on.
[08:44] <boz> Hey Thats a great command. Thanks for the Tip!
[08:44] <klaus> thanks by the way man
[08:44] <klaus> its downloadin right now
[08:45] <kitsch> klaus: no problem :)
[08:45] <klaus> like i said i'm new to the whole linux world..
[08:45] <hickselor> is there no idea out there?
[08:45] <klaus> i have kubuntu installed and gentoo live...
[08:45] <klaus> just now gettin started
[08:46] <klaus> i tought myself how to install the dev c compiler tho ;)
[08:46] <klaus> lol
[08:46] <kitsch> klaus: well, you will probably learn quickly. the first few weeks are tough but then it only gets easier
[08:46] <kitsch> nice
[08:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys
[08:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i need a c++ programmer
[08:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[08:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> could you please tell me what this line of code means?
[08:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the * is pretty awkword
[08:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> float    *( sets[NSets]  );
[08:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 
[08:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[08:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anybody here?
[08:49] <dark_suic> the * would be a pointer
[08:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see, so it is a pointer to an array
[08:50] <dark_suic> it's some kind of function that returns a pointer to a float (or that's what i think)
[08:50] <dark_suic> ok
[08:50] <dark_suic> sorry
[08:50] <dark_suic> if it's like in C, it would be a pointer to an array of floats
[08:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can just remove the * to port it in java
[08:50] <dark_suic> yes, i think
[08:52] <Borelia> !wifi
[08:52] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:52] <_alex> salve
[08:53] <Kr4t05> !resolutions
[08:53] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kr4t05
[08:53] <Kr4t05> :/
[08:53] <_alex> hi...
[08:53] <Kr4t05> hi
[08:53] <Kr4t05> Ok
[08:53] <Kr4t05> So, I changed from GNOME to KDE.
[08:53] <_alex> i have a problem with kde and the resolution of my kcd
[08:53] <_alex> ..lcd...
[08:54] <Kr4t05> Same here, only it's my CRT. ;P
[08:54] <hickselor> !nvidia
[08:54] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:54] <trispace> is there a possibility to use the vim kpart with kate?
[08:55] <_alex> in xorg.conf the default i resolution is 1280x800, but on kde->Display there isn't this exact resolution...please ?!?! help me!!
[08:56] <klaus> ok
[08:56] <klaus> i have the file downloaded.. now what do i do lol
[08:59] <wk2001> does someone know why xsane doesn't work but kooka does?
[09:04] <hickselor> !nvidia
[09:04] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:07] <_alex> please someone can help me, about kde resolution....
[09:07] <_alex> ???
[09:07] <_alex> the problem is
[09:07] <_alex> in xorg.conf the default i resolution is 1280x800, but on kde->Display there isn't this exact resolution...please ?!?! help me!!
[09:07] <klaus> hello?
[09:07] <klaus> anyone there?
[09:07] <Parkotron> I just discovered a HOWTO describing how to get openoffice.org thumbnails under Gnome: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76566 Does anybody have any idea of how to set this up in Konqueror?
[09:08] <_alex> kde show me many preset, where can i find the preset kde's resolution
[09:08] <_alex> ?
[09:09] <Myrtti> hello
[09:09] <Myrtti> would anyone happen to know if kubuntu-live has kbabel?
[09:12] <klaus> hello?
[09:13] <klaus> can sum1 help me out
[09:13] <klaus> i downloaded frostwire and tried to install and it gave me some weird error
[09:14] <rysiek|pl> hi there guys
[09:14] <klaus> hey
[09:14] <klaus> can u help me out?
[09:14] <klaus> you know much about ubuntu?
[09:14] <rysiek|pl> a bit
[09:14] <klaus> ok
[09:14] <rysiek|pl> what seems to be the problem?
[09:15] <klaus> well i downloaded frostwire... i need to install it
[09:15] <rysiek|pl> !frostwire
[09:15] <ubotu> frostwire is, like, a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[09:15] <rysiek|pl> m'kay, and?
[09:16] <klaus> ok how do i install it?
[09:16] <klaus> i have it downloaded...
[09:16] <rysiek|pl> ok, what is the full name of the file you have downloaded?
[09:17] <klaus> FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:18] <rysiek|pl> ok
[09:18] <rysiek|pl> open console
[09:18] <klaus> check
[09:19] <rysiek|pl> cd to the directory you have this file in
[09:19] <klaus> ko
[09:19] <klaus> next
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> dpkg-deb --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> wait
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> sudo that ;)
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> sudo dpkg-deb --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:20] <klaus> what?
[09:20] <Hollowman8904> how do i stup kde from auto-restoring the session?
[09:20] <Hollowman8904> and auto-saving it?
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> you have to execute dpkg-deb as root, so you use the sudo command
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> dpkg-deb --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> argh
[09:20] <rysiek|pl> sudo dpkg-deb --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:21] <klaus> klaus@gunther:~$ sudo dpkg-deb --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:21] <klaus> dpkg-deb: unknown option --install
[09:21] <klaus> Type dpkg-deb --help for help about manipulating *.deb files;
[09:21] <klaus> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages.
[09:21] <klaus> klaus@gunther:~$
[09:21] <rysiek|pl> Hollowman8904: why on earth would you want to do it?
[09:21] <klaus> doesn't work
[09:21] <rysiek|pl> ops, my bad, waita
[09:21] <Hollowman8904> because i dont like all the stuff that i was doing before poping up when i login
[09:21] <Hollowman8904> like an empty console i may have had open
[09:21] <Hollowman8904> is there a way i can make a list of what i want to auto start??
[09:22] <Hollowman8904> just select programs and nothing else
[09:22] <rysiek|pl> klaus: sudo dpkg --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:22] <rysiek|pl> Hollowman8904: frankly, I have no idea o_O
[09:23] <klaus> klaus@gunther:~$ sudo dpkg --install FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:23] <klaus> dpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in version number in FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:23] <klaus> dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb (--install):
[09:23] <klaus>  subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
[09:23] <klaus> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:23] <klaus>  FrostWire-4.10.5-0.i586.deb
[09:23] <klaus> klaus@gunther:~$
[09:23] <klaus> didn't work
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> strange
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> argh, the DEB file is bad
[09:24] <klaus> how?
[09:24] <rysiek|pl> 1. delete it and download again. try checking it's md5sum if it's publicated on the project's website
[09:25] <rysiek|pl> 2. if it won't help, try downloading the sources and compiling - it's not that hard and I'm here to try to help ;)
[09:26] <klaus> ok
[09:26] <klaus> brb
[09:26] <Hollowman8904> what would this line do? #!/bin/bash
[09:26] <Dasnipa`> # is a comment
[09:26] <rysiek|pl> it tells the shell tat the following file is a script and is supposed to be parsed by the program /bin/bash
[09:27] <Dasnipa`> right
[09:28] <Hairulrf-SLEEP> If Kubuntun says that my network adapters are disabled, and that when I log in as administrator to enable them, it just returns to hte previous window, and not as root, what could be wrong? -(I had it on wireless just an hour ago) Where I am there is no WLAN,
[09:28] <Parkotron> Hollowman: The setting you're looking for is under KDE Components | Session Manager in KControl or System Settings.
[09:29] <Hollowman8904> i need help loggin out
[09:29] <Hollowman8904> when i log out, i get a black screen, where it stops at "checking battery state"
[09:30] <rysiek|pl> Hairulrf-SLEEP: where do you login as root - in the System Settings?
[09:31] <Parkotron> To make specific programs launch on startup you can create a .desktop file for each program you want to start in ~/.kde/Autostart .
[09:31] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Yeah, System Setting > Network Settings
[09:31] <rysiek|pl> forget abou it :] 
[09:31] <rysiek|pl> editing the files by hand is a better way, IMHO ;)
[09:31] <rysiek|pl> and it's quite easy
[09:31] <Hollowman8904> Parkotron, so i could make gaim.desktop?
[09:32] <Hollowman8904> would the file have to contain anything?
[09:32] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Roger that - just installed today on PPC, works great by the way, except for this setback. How do I do that?
[09:32] <Parkotron> Yes, but KDE will make them for you.
[09:32] <rysiek|pl> it definetely contains and exists on your system already :)
[09:32] <Hollowman8904> so can someone help me with my logout problem?
[09:33] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: I am not a WLAN expert, but I can help a bit with network config
[09:33] <rysiek|pl> open console
[09:33] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Wlan works fine, but I home now, only LAN here ;)
[09:33] <rysiek|pl> aaa, that's great ;)
[09:33] <Parkotron> Hollowman: Go to ~/.kde/Autostart in Konqueror, then rightclick | Create New | Link to Application, fill out the fields and you should be good to go.
[09:33] <rysiek|pl> here we go then:
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: open console, login as root
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> sudo -i
[09:34] <Hollowman8904> yea but i said why do i get a black screen when i logout... at the bottom it says "checking battery state"
[09:34] <rysiek|pl> (enter your USER's password, not the ROOT's)
[09:35] <vgabel> hallo
[09:36] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Nothing happens ?
[09:36] <rysiek|pl> no, but type "whoami" and you'll get info that you're root now :] 
[09:36] <rysiek|pl> right?
[09:37] <Hairulfr> :) Yeah
[09:37] <Hairulfr> So, next step :)
[09:37] <rysiek|pl> ok, now: cd /etc/network/
[09:38] <rysiek|pl> and I would suggest opening a second Konsole tab or window and typing: man interfaces (that'll give you the manual pages for the file we'll be editing:) )
[09:38] <Hollowman8904> so does nobody know why it doesn't return to the login screen after i logout?
[09:39] <Hairulfr> etc/network doesnt exist :/
[09:39] <rysiek|pl> no, it doesnt. but /etc/network does :)
[09:39] <rysiek|pl> notise the "/" at the beginning
[09:39] <rysiek|pl> *notice, damn it ;)
[09:40] <Hairulfr> Hehe
[09:40] <Hairulfr> :/
[09:40] <klaus> hey
[09:40] <klaus> i'm back
[09:40] <klaus> with more trouble..
[09:40] <klaus> it installed and everything
[09:40] <rysiek|pl> :)
[09:40] <klaus> but when i run it it fails
[09:41] <rysiek|pl> klaus: I haven't used this app, so I suppose it might be a config issue
[09:41] <rysiek|pl> but you can try to run it from console
[09:41] <rysiek|pl> and paste me on prov the error messages, if they occur
[09:41] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: so what's up with the cd /etc/network?
[09:41] <klaus> ok how would one go about running it form console
[09:42] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Working fine, what file am I going at?
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> klaus: 1. open console; 2. type the app's name (case sensitive); 3. hit [enter]  :] 
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: have you opened a second Konsole tab?
[09:43] <Hairulfr> YEs and the man page
[09:43] <rysiek|pl> great. in the first tab, do: ls -l
[09:43] <rysiek|pl> it will list all the files in the directory - you should fine the file "interfaces" amonst them
[09:44] <Hairulfr> <Yes, interfaces is there
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> that's the main network config file on Kubuntu
[09:44] <Hairulfr> so, edit that?
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> yep: vim interfaces
[09:44] <klaus> it won't work
[09:44] <klaus> i can't run it
[09:45] <rysiek|pl> klaus: what does it say?
[09:45] <Hairulfr> So, if I put map eth0, it should work, right?
[09:45] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: look at the manpage for a minute, especially on the section about LAN, I'll help you in a minute ;)
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> yep, should
[09:46] <klaus> nothing
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> with a line or two more
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> ??
[09:46] <klaus> bash: FrostWire: command not found
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> aa
[09:46] <leafw> any one has experience in copying from one partition to another, not verbatim as in 'dd', but defragmenting on the fly?
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> klaus: ok... try frostwire
[09:47] <klaus> ok
[09:47] <klaus> klaus@gunther:/$ frostwire
[09:47] <klaus> Starting FrostWire...
[09:47] <klaus> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> yay :)
[09:47] <klaus> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[09:47] <klaus> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> klaus: wait
[09:47] <klaus> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[09:47] <klaus> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> don't flood here
[09:47] <klaus> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[09:47] <klaus> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[09:47] <klaus> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[09:47] <klaus> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[09:47] <klaus> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> klaus: give that on my priv
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> next time :)
[09:48] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> ok, so you don't have a Java Runtime Environment installed, or at least not the right version of it
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> !java
[09:48] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> !javadebs
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> klaus: type "!javadebs" in your IRC
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> you'll get info on installing Java
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> also visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:49] <klaus> ok
[09:49] <klaus> !javadebs
[09:49] <linuxboyfriend> when i give command "sudo apt-get install some_package", i does not give me any option like [Y/N]  but it automatically starts download, why? and how can I fix this?
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: ok, I'm all yours
[09:50] <Tm_T> linuxboyfriend: it's not problem
[09:50] <Tm_T> linuxboyfriend: you ordered it to install something, so it does so
[09:50] <linuxboyfriend> Tm_T: but i want apt to ask
[09:50] <Tm_T> linuxboyfriend: it asks only if it has something to ask
[09:50] <Tm_T> linuxboyfriend: ...why?
[09:50] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Ok, i've looked over the man page, none the wiser,
[09:51] <linuxboyfriend> Tm_T: so, can i use any option so i should ask?
[09:51] <Tm_T> linuxboyfriend: you like pressing y key?
[09:51] <linuxboyfriend> Tm_T: yes, a lot :)
[09:51] <klaus> what do i need to download?
[09:51] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: I just want it to start both etho and eth1 by default,
[09:51] <Tm_T> linuxboyfriend: man apt-get ;(
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> klaus: visit the pages you got from ubotu and from me
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: ok, let's edit the damn file ;)
[09:51] <Hairulfr> ;)
[09:52] <klaus> i did..
[09:52] <linuxboyfriend> Tm_T: woof, the most difficult answer :D
[09:52] <klaus> what do i do now
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> klaus: in a minute
[09:52] <lubo> hi ryskie|pl  ... man you are here all the yime don't ypu?
[09:52] <Tm_T> linuxboyfriend: nope, I'm not reading manpages for you, nor wiping your ass ;)
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> lubo: nope. only when I try to get an answer to a question. usually ending in helpin somebody :] 
[09:53] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: do you want your LAN to be DHCP or static?
[09:53] <Hairulfr> Hmm.. I move it about a bit, so better be HDCP
[09:53] <Hairulfr> *DHCP
[09:53] <rysiek|pl> great. it's much easier ;)
[09:53] <Hairulfr> ;)
[09:53] <Hairulfr> can I edit with vim?
[09:54] <rysiek|pl> yes, you can - have you got it running?
[09:54] <lubo> :-) good on you:-)) yesterday I could not boot the system with this new kernel, I stuck with uncopresing kernel message:-))
[09:54] <rysiek|pl> lubo: ops. sorry for that :/
[09:55] <ryanakca> what's the most popular irc client for linux (Graphical)?
[09:55] <rysiek|pl> lubo: y it's apt-get install linux-image-(..) and no probs
[09:55] <rysiek|pl> *sually
[09:55] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: still here?
[09:55] <Tm_T> !pastebin
[09:55] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[09:56] <lubo> yes that's what I did...but it apparently got some problems...
[09:56] <rysiek|pl> :/
[09:56] <rysiek|pl> ryanakca: I don't know about linux as a whole, but for Kubuntu definetely Konversation
[09:56] <stoned> offtoptic:  usual suspects is a brilliant fscking movie
[09:57] <lubo> than I tried the other kernel and with this I got message that system cant load some drivers:-)
[09:57] <rysiek|pl> ??
[09:57] <rysiek|pl> d'oh
[09:57] <rysiek|pl> I always have Kubuntu Live and Knoppix Live nearny ;)
[09:57] <rysiek|pl> *nearby (wtf is with me today? bloody typos!)
[09:58] <Hairulfr> rysiek. Ok, there, had a prob. all clear now
[09:58] <Hairulfr> *rysi:
[09:58] <lubo> I migrate from debian sarge and kubuntu seems to me more buggy...not sure...
[09:58] <Hairulfr> rysiek:
[09:58] <Hairulfr> Ffs
[09:58] <tomas_> anyone heard of vloopback?
[09:59] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Ok, there now
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> great
[10:00] <GutterPunk> Hello
[10:00] <GutterPunk> I just edited my sources.list file to use dapper instead of breazy, and did an apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: so you have two tabs in Konsole: #1 with vim interfaces, #2 with man interfaces, right?
[10:00] <GutterPunk> Please tell me it will work fine ... :s
[10:01] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Well, two xterms, but yes :)
[10:01] <murray_> hello again :)
[10:01] <rysiek|pl> ok, whatever ;) ok, I assume your ethernet card is marked as eth0 (99% it is)
[10:01] <murray_> I've been playing with dual heading my laptop via xorg.conf
[10:01] <murray_> and, magically, all is working well
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: do you have any lines in the interfaces file, that contain "eth0"?
[10:02] <tomas_> vloopback anyone?
[10:02] <murray_> except (isn't there always one!) ... vlc can play back video on both screens when windowed
[10:02] <murray_> but in fullscreen, it will only play on the laptop screen
[10:02] <Hairulfr> Yes, it is :) I setup eth1 as primary. no lines containing eth0
[10:02] <murray_> any ideas how I can get vlc to play fullscreen on the 2nd external monitor ?
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> hmmm
[10:03] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: ok, so what does the line say?
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> the one with eth1
[10:04] <pulver> is firefox 1.5.0 in the repos? is there an easy way to downgrade from 1.5.0.1?
[10:04] <Hairulfr> Mapping hotplug
[10:04] <Hairulfr> script grep
[10:04] <Hairulfr> map eth1
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> that's all? great :)
[10:05] <Hairulfr> and : iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> do you have a comment: # The primary network interface?
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> aaa
[10:05] <Hairulfr> CRAP
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> huh?
[10:05] <Hairulfr> Accidentally closed the lid, and te fucker cant come back from cuspend
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> ?
[10:06] <Hairulfr> Coz it wont suspend to ram
[10:06] <rysiek|pl> argh
[10:06] <rysiek|pl> ok... boot it up, I suppose... :)
[10:06] <Hairulfr> Yeah :/
[10:06] <Hairulfr> Is it able to suspend to ram?
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> !suspend
[10:07] <ubotu> rysiek|pl: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> !acpi
[10:07] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek|pl
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> !apic
[10:07] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek|pl
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> hmmm
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> I *think* it is, but I don't really know - I don't have a laptom
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> *laptop
[10:08] <Hairulfr> Ok :)
[10:08] <Hairulfr> Coz it's a pain, having to boot it everytime
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: boot it up, I'll be right back, need some tea ;)
[10:08] <GutterPunk> Has anyone upgraded to dapper from breezy?
[10:08] <Hairulfr> Boot takes a while, ill get somthn too
[10:08] <GutterPunk> How should it be done?
[10:09] <GutterPunk> Is it fine to just edit the sources.list file and change breezy to dapper?
[10:09] <GutterPunk> If not I can still kill the process :)
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> GutterPunk: yes, a few had upgraded (not me, though), and it should be painless.
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> and no, you shouldn't kill it, it would leave a real *mess* with the packages!
[10:12] <rysiek|pl> just wait till it ends and tell us how great Dapper is ;)
[10:13] <NRG88> hi, can i remove kubuntu-default-settings if i want to use ubuntu from now on?
[10:14] <GutterPunk> rysiek|pl, alright :) I will. By killing it I meant the Get: stage :)
[10:14] <NRG88> the uplash screen is the same, even though i removed the kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[10:14] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Ok, booted and back in console
[10:15] <Borelia> !wifi
[10:15] <ubotu> hmm... wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:16] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: ok, are you in vim already? if not, do: ifconfig
[10:16] <rysiek|pl> and see if any ethX (where X is 0, 1, 2, ...) in  the oputput
[10:16] <Hairulfr> I'm in wim, should i quit and do iconfig
[10:17] <rysiek|pl> no, you can open a new xterm
[10:17] <rysiek|pl> it'll come in handy anyways ;)
[10:17] <Hairulfr> Only eth1 in the output
[10:18] <rysiek|pl> what does it say about eth1? only the line starting with "inet addr:" please ;)
[10:19] <rysiek|pl> brb - the water boiled
[10:19] <Hairulfr> inet addr:127.0.01
[10:21] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: huh? d'oh. ok, login as root in the second xterm
[10:21] <rysiek|pl> sudo -i ;)
[10:22] <Hairulfr> Dune :)
[10:22] <rysiek|pl> and in the one with vim, make sure the line "iface eth1 inet dhcp" is in the interfaces file
[10:22] <rysiek|pl> is it?
[10:24] <Hairulfr> #The primary network intercae:  iface eth1 inet dhcp
[10:25] <rysiek|pl> ok, I suppose iface eth1 inet dhcp is on the nex line, right? :)
[10:25] <rysiek|pl> not commented-out
[10:25] <Hairulfr> Yes :)
[10:25] <rysiek|pl> (just making sure)
[10:25] <Hairulfr> Just cant do forced line changes
[10:25] <slew> hi, can i ask a dapper drake question in here?
[10:25] <rysiek|pl> ok, in the other xterm, do: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:25] <Hairulfr> Oh, wait, I can :/
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> in the vim, just do: [ESCAPE] , type: ":qa!" and hit Enter :)
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> it will revert all changes
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> and exit vim
[10:28] <Hairulfr> NO range allowed
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> ?
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> that's what VIM output? :)
[10:28] <Hairulfr> when i type .qa!
[10:29] <ben> hi all
[10:29] <Hairulfr> I just closed it, made no chages
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> not ".qa!" but :qa! :}
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> ok, that's good two ;)
[10:29] <rysiek|pl> now, the other xterm: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:30] <Hairulfr> Dune :)
[10:31] <rysiek|pl> ok, now ifconfig and what it says in the lione starting with "inet addr" of eth1?
[10:31] <Snake__> Hey guys can I get your opinion?
[10:31] <Snake__> What do you guys think of this case? ftp://feuerfrei.kicks-ass.net/temp/Design2.jpg
[10:32] <ninHer> hi all
[10:32] <Snake__> (its a HTPC case)
[10:32] <Hairulfr> inet adr: 127.0.0.1
[10:33] <Hairulfr> wait, nothing says eth1
[10:33] <Borelia> Snake__: hard to judge its like a photshoped nude model :)
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: ?
[10:33] <Snake__> Borelia: ? whatcha mean?
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: ok, is there anything with eth1 in ifconfig's output?
[10:34] <Hairulfr> rysiek|pl: Nothing at all
[10:34] <Borelia> pro photos makes case look good
[10:35] <Snake__> Lol Borelia
[10:35] <Borelia> cant be trusted ! :)
[10:35] <Snake__> Well my friend may submit it to NZXT
[10:35] <Snake__> He submitted another and got paid $250 for it, so hes tryin to get opinions on this one
[10:36] <Borelia> aha its design sketch !
[10:36] <Snake__> yes
[10:36] <leafw> any one has experience in copying from one partition to another, not verbatim as in 'dd', but defragmenting on the fly?
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: sorry for the dela
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> y
[10:37] <Hairulfr> np:)
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> Hairulfr: ok, that's what I expected, actually. do you have any DHCP servers in your LAN?
[10:37] <geirhard> i know maybe it is a stupid question, but i pressed shift for 10 seconds with kubuntu and now my keyboard doesn't works, can somebody help me please?
[10:38] <geirhard> what have i got to do?
[10:38] <Hairulfr> Ok, wait, it's not connected! Coz I need the connection on this comp, and I fear the other cable is busted
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> d'oh
[10:38] <geirhard> pleaaaase it's urgent!
[10:39] <leafw> geirhard: reboot.
[10:39] <rysiek|pl> try connecting the other cable to this box, and this cable, that is sure to be ok, to the laptop ;)
[10:39] <leafw> or
[10:39] <geirhard> if tried so yet
[10:39] <leafw> geirhard: try option+control+F1 and kill the X server
[10:39] <geirhard> but it doesn't works, i can't stand using gnome for any longer xDD
[10:39] <leafw> geirhard: or control+option+delete to kill the X server
[10:39] <Hairulfr> But had it connected earlier - ill just disconnect here, be back in a sec,
[10:39] <geirhard> option?
[10:40] <geirhard> where is option?
[10:40] <leafw> "meta" = option
[10:40] <leafw> or "alt" = option
[10:40] <geirhard> no, the problem it's that it doesn't work even for going to text mode, when i press the keys i hear a beep coming from inside my pc and it does not write
[10:41] <leafw> geirhard: if you don't know what to do, do what windows users do: reboot.
[10:41] <geirhard> it's like when you try to type when your pc is booting, and you start to hear beep beeep beep beep beep
[10:41] <geirhard> if tryed to reboot, but it still does
[10:41] <leafw> hard reboot.
[10:42] <geirhard> hard reboot?
[10:42] <geirhard> how can i do "hard" reboot?
[10:42] <leafw> push power button for a few seconds, or unplug the power cable.
[10:43] <geirhard> nono, i've restarted the pc, the mouse works, it's only the keyboard
[10:43] <leafw> is it properly plugged?
[10:43] <pulver> anyone know how to set the audio master channel to use at login.. now its choosing the usb cam mic instead of soundcard and spits out an arts error at every login =/
[10:43] <geirhard> i pressed shift for a long time, and it showed an advice and i pressed "continue" by error and it didn't work any longer
[10:43] <leafw> try booting into safe mode and then see if the keyboard works there.
[10:44] <geirhard> yes, the keyboard is working at the moment with gnome
[10:44] <geirhard> but with kde not
[10:44] <leafw> if you can use the mouse, go to System Settings and change the keyboard layout, or reset it.
[10:44] <geirhard> if tryed it
[10:44] <leafw> most likely you have switched on the disabled/delayed/lazy keys
[10:45] <geirhard> could you try to press shift for a seconds and read what the advice say? maybe this way you will know what the problem is
[10:45] <geirhard> but don't press continue or you'll be in my situation xDD
[10:45] <leafw> my kubuntu-ppc 5.10 doesn't popup anything because I disabled the slow keys.
[10:45] <geirhard> that's it!!!!
[10:45] <geirhard> slow keys
[10:45] <leafw> if you can use the mouse, go to System Settings and change the keyboard layout, or reset it, and see to fix the slow keys ..
[10:45] <puckman> leafw: you run kubuntu on ppc?
[10:45] <geirhard> it said something about slow keys
[10:46] <leafw> puckman: what's the big deal
[10:46] <puckman> No big deal. I just wanted to ask you how you find that?
[10:46] <puckman> I take it a Mac right?
[10:46] <leafw> I find it very nice, thanks, I was tired of fink being unupdated and the X server to work so badly in osx.
[10:46] <leafw> a powerbook.
[10:46] <geirhard> i'll try to do this
[10:47] <puckman> I know your feeling
[10:47] <muzzle> Where do I ask gtk+ questions? Almost no people in #gtk
[10:47] <puckman> been using kubuntu for a few months now after I got tired of osx
[10:47] <puckman> been using macs since 85
[10:47] <leafw> I keep an osx partition for photoshop, it's the only app making me keep the osx.
[10:47] <leafw> muzzle: try the mailing lists.
[10:48] <rysiek|pl> leafw: try the GIMP ;)
[10:48] <leafw> rysiek|pl: GIMP has no CMYK. Period.
[10:48] <puckman> yeah, tried to do the gimp but throwing away 15 years of pshop experience is hard
[10:48] <rysiek|pl> ok, point taken ;)
[10:48] <leafw> I use the gimp for what I need, but not for any thing that has to be printed.
[10:48] <leafw> and most of my work needs printing.
[10:48] <puckman> What do you do?
[10:48] <puckman> If I may ask.
[10:48] <rysiek|pl> although... I am sure I've seen CMYK in GIMP... just gimme a sec
[10:49] <leafw> rysiek|pl: a crude patch that doesn't integrate well at all.
[10:49] <leafw> rysiek|pl: and no preview modes
[10:49] <leafw> I can do that with a java app in 10 minutes
[10:49] <puckman> krita is starting to shape up nice
[10:49] <frank23> pardon the dumbness but what is CMYK?
[10:49] <leafw> puckman: I do research in developmental biology, lots of imagining.
[10:49] <leafw> cyan-magenta-yellow-black color space
[10:50] <leafw> the one used by printers.
[10:50] <puckman> Cyan Magenta Yellow and.... Black
[10:50] <puckman> why is black not B?
[10:50] <puckman> I always wondered that
[10:50] <leafw> as opposed to RGB, red-green-blue color space.
[10:50] <leafw> puckman: because it would be confused with Blue.
[10:50] <rysiek|pl> ...and this way nobody knows, wtf ;)
[10:50] <puckman> Really think so?
[10:51] <leafw> nothing else sounds reasonable XD
[10:51] <puckman> ehehe
[10:51] <puckman> its funny I used to work in print in holland
[10:51] <puckman> and we call the colour mode smyk
[10:51] <leafw> s for cyan ?
[10:52] <puckman> c in dutch sounds like s
[10:52] <leafw> always doing recreative linguistics, the Dutch ... I heard the language is hard as hell to learn.
[10:52] <puckman> ha, no way
[10:52] <puckman> I'm learning japanese now THAT is hard
[10:52] <puckman> dont make any sense
[10:53] <puckman> almost every word seems to mean some for of please or excude me
[10:53] <puckman> excuse me
[10:53] <leafw> xD
[10:53] <leafw> embedded politeness, then
[10:53] <puckman> But the missus speaks it
[10:54] <puckman> So I better learn or else she can talk shit to me without me getting it :P
[10:54] <leafw> that is a good reason indeed, and a fast way to learn
[10:55] <frank23> puckman: does she know dutch?
[10:55] <puckman> Some words, shes a very good learner
[10:55] <puckman> I'm crap at learning anything that aint computers
[10:55] <rysiek|pl> :] 
[10:56] <frank23> puckman: lol
[10:56] <puckman> She does not understand how I know the personal passwords of all the users at work but dont know my mums birthday
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> hmmm... maybe try and write an app doing something in Japanese :] 
[10:56] <leafw> xDD
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> puckman: that's normal, AFAIK
[10:56] <puckman> hehehe, well, I tried to install Japanese input on kubuntu but cant get the fucker to work
[10:57] <puckman> That is one thing I do miss of osx
[10:57] <leafw> maybe you need a japanese translater for the error messages
[10:57] <rysiek|pl> don't ask me, Polish works like a charm
[10:57] <puckman> japanese input is piss easy on there
[10:57] <leafw> talking about that, the ONLY thing I miss from OSX is the keyboard layout, that lets me use the option key to type any sorts of non-english characters
[10:57] <puckman> yeah that rocks tooo
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> puckman: have you set your system font encoding to Unicode?
[10:58] <puckman> ok, so osx aint that bad.... but its just no fun
[10:58] <puckman> rysiek|pl: dont think so
[10:58] <leafw> in kubuntu I ca do that on an xterm, even if all are in different key combinations, but the option key gets stolen by the window manager to select menus, which is useless to me.
[10:58] <puckman> not that it matters, I can view japanese, just not type it
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> o_O
[10:59] <puckman> when the next release of kubuntu comes out I will do a clean install
[10:59] <puckman> see if I can get japanese working then
[11:00] <puckman> this install is getting a bit buggy, been randomly installing stuff and being a newbie i'm sure I fucked some shit up
[11:00] <puckman> I heard beginning of april is the next release?
[11:01] <leafw> puckman: the problem is kde: there are some non-ironed bugs, particularly regarding memory leaks.
[11:01] <frank23> hmm.. in the dappper startup screen, they call modules drivers instead
[11:01] <leafw> and random konqueror and kmail crashes.
[11:01] <puckman> I dont use those, thunderbird and firefox here
[11:02] <puckman> I love flickr and it dont work right in konq
[11:02] <leafw> firefox for ppc is at 1.0.7, and compiling it is a mountain-sized task
[11:02] <puckman> ah, I switched i'm afraid
[11:02] <puckman> IBM Thinkpad
[11:02] <puckman> got tired of the poor build quality of the powerbooks
[11:02] <puckman> I still have a mac mini for the odd mac things
[11:03] <puckman> I'm an IT manager for a design firm and the amount of macs I had to send back for repairs the last 2 years is shocking
[11:03] <leafw> puckman: I find the apple laptops very enduring, this one has 3 years and a half, works like first day
[11:03] <leafw> battery replaced but a month ago
[11:04] <leafw> oh, I underclocked the chip though, the factory settings simply burn it out and heat up the whole thing way beyond safety.
[11:04] <leafw> that silly powerpc vs x86 race, made them do stupid moves like that.
[11:04] <Borelia> selfe destruct ? :)
[11:04] <Snake__> Does anyone here do any advanced bash scripting?
[11:05] <icicled> would it be alright to have a parition on an IDE drive and SATA drive and stripe them? do a raid 0 i mean
[11:05] <puckman> I like to throw my machine around, so do the users and the metal on the powerbook gets very easily bent
[11:05] <puckman> the ibooks are nice and solid
[11:05] <puckman> and I love the mini
[11:05] <leafw> kevlar plastic, I think
[11:06] <puckman> G5's get build with weak power supplies
[11:06] <leafw> the aluminium powerbooks may be ductile, but this is a titanium pb ..
[11:06] <Snake__> Guess not :(
[11:06] <puckman> and when a fan breaks down the board overheats till it fries
[11:06] <puckman> ah, the first one?
[11:06] <leafw> "first" ?
[11:06] <leafw> not really
[11:06] <puckman> I mean the first one of the silver range
[11:06] <leafw> but the last of the titanium series, the 1GHz
[11:07] <puckman> yeah they where ok
[11:07] <puckman> apart from the crack at the connection point of the screen
[11:07] <_alex> hi...
[11:07] <leafw> never happened, so far
[11:07] <_alex> i have a problem with kde 3.5
[11:08] <leafw> never mind, I'll replace it when the screen fails, which I expect will within this year
[11:08] <_alex> konqueror doesn't show the file system
[11:09] <_alex> but the web broswer seems ok
[11:10] <_alex> anyone konw this problem ?!?!
[11:10] <leafw> nope
[11:10] <puckman> I have a spare screen :P
[11:10] <leafw> file a bug
[11:10] <leafw> for a laptop ?
[11:10] <puckman> yeah
[11:10] <puckman> titanium
[11:10] <leafw> looks like sorcery to replace it
[11:10] <leafw> you mean a external one ?
[11:10] <puckman> No, the powerbook one
[11:11] <leafw> wow
[11:11] <puckman> I'm the IT guy, I used to work at apple, replacing one of those is easy :)
[11:11] <leafw> woah
[11:11] <puckman> I'm only a newbie in linux, not in apple :P
[11:11] <rysiek|pl> ok, gotta go guys. if Hairulfr shows up, tell him I had to go ;)
[11:11] <leafw> I've heard many descritpions, but not easy
[11:11] <rysiek|pl> cu all
[11:11] <puckman> cya
[11:12] <leafw> if you'd been working with apple since 1985, that stands to lots of hours fiddling with them
[11:12] <puckman> yup
[11:12] <puckman> Loved Macs for ages, still love the mini, its sweet, and the ipod
[11:12] <leafw> don't you hate the new "chooser", the command+k?  Freezes osx for a minute or so every other time
[11:12] <puckman> but osx does weird stuff and some of the hardware falls apart
[11:12] <puckman> really? fine here
[11:13] <leafw> the hardware is designed to last 3 years and die, I suspect
[11:13] <_alex> hei guys.....how can restore a defaul profile, for kde ???
[11:13] <puckman> yeah a lot of stuff is like that
[11:13] <puckman> I dont blame em, users want something new all the time
[11:13] <leafw> alex: erase the ~/.kde
[11:13] <leafw> or create a new user
[11:14] <puckman> Hmmm, one of the new mac minis with kubuntu, that would be sweet
[11:14] <leafw> if it supports it, some mac hardware is poorly supported by linux
[11:15] <_alex> ok...i erase ~/.kde , an what  do i do ??
[11:15] <leafw> but I've read the mac minis work just fine with debian-like flavors
[11:15] <_alex> ..sorry for my english.....
[11:15] <leafw> alex: logout/login
[11:15] <_alex> how can i restart kde ???
[11:15] <leafw> _alex: logout!
[11:15] <_alex> just logout and login ???
[11:15] <leafw> yes
[11:16] <_alex> i don't stop the system...
[11:16] <_alex> like win ?!?!?
[11:16] <leafw> no
[11:16] <_alex> ok tks
[11:16] <leafw> just logout, then login.
[11:16] <_alex> see u ,..tks
[11:16] <pollomax> join: #kubuntu-es
[11:16] <puckman> lol
[11:16] <puckman> another amazed user
[11:16] <leafw> fascinated windows users
[11:16] <leafw> xD
[11:16] <leafw> right
[11:16] <puckman> windows is so shite that people get shocked
[11:17] <puckman> Just reading the dapper pages
[11:17] <puckman> seems they plan to address most of te bits that are wrong
[11:17] <puckman> sounds good
[11:17] <leafw> everyone to whom I've introduced macosx or linux never went back.
[11:20] <puckman> yup
[11:20] <puckman> I have turned a lot of people over the last 15 years
[11:20] <leafw> puckman: do you have an estimate of non-windows usage out there?
[11:21] <puckman> Our finance guy at work, HATED that I made him use a mac, after 3 months he bought a powerbook
[11:21] <puckman> you mean of all computing people?
[11:21] <leafw> in my environment (university) hardly anyone uses windows, and most people rides on macosx.
[11:21] <puckman> my world is design so mostly macs
[11:21] <leafw> puckman: I mean of all existing computers on earth
[11:21] <puckman> lol, hard to say
[11:22] <leafw> indeed
[11:22] <puckman> they base those figures on sales figures
[11:22] <leafw> sales is not a good indicator when some OSes are free
[11:22] <puckman> which is dumb as shit as mac last way longer
[11:22] <leafw> that too
[11:22] <leafw> we have a macintosh 7.4 on the main microscope
[11:22] <leafw> never needed an update
[11:22] <puckman> and if you do it on os you crap up as well as mac users dont buy their os
[11:23] <leafw> had been plugged on the network without firewall for about 7 years or so
[11:23] <leafw> no problem ever.
[11:23] <puckman> I would reckon the true percentage would sit at about 20%
[11:23] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:23] <puckman> of 'other' users
[11:23] <leafw> ok
[11:24] <leafw> hi confrey
[11:24] <puckman> windows also runs on a lot of dumb shit like info kios, bank machines, train time tables etc etc
[11:25] <leafw> ATMs!
[11:25] <puckman> and to be honest, someone in a big data center doing nothing else than punch numbers onto a windows machine aint a computer user in my eyes
[11:25] <leafw> I've seen a few "rebooting" for 10 minutes or so
[11:25] <puckman> that is someone who has a fancy type writer
[11:25] <leafw> puckman: isn't that the main usage of a computer? To type text?
[11:25] <kosh> I thought it was to blow up aliens ;)
[11:26] <puckman> My main usage is a communication tool.
[11:26] <sirblue> i mostly burn time...
[11:26] <Aapzak> hey folks, I'm back
[11:26] <kosh> of course that is the same thing
[11:26] <kosh> you communicate to the aliens how much you don't like them ;)
[11:26] <puckman> aapzak?
[11:26] <puckman> lol
[11:26] <leafw> puckman: after internet, yes, not before! Well, if you consider typing letters a form of communication ,then back then too.
[11:26] <puckman> you dutch?
[11:26] <petros> do anyone know how to change the column width in the bash?
[11:26] <kosh> remember missiles are a universal language :)
[11:26] <slow-motion> b8 leute
[11:26] <petros> or in the xterm...
[11:26] <Aapzak> yeah puckman, you too ey?
[11:26] <puckman> before internet there was BBS and usenet :P
[11:26] <slow-motion> -b+n
[11:26] <leafw> column width? You mean font dimensions?
[11:26] <petros> i can not see the full app name when i do dpkg -l
[11:27] <leafw> puckman: I was too young
[11:27] <puckman> Aapzak: Ja
[11:27] <puckman> ah, most young ones dont even know what that word means I bet
[11:28] <Aapzak> bulletin board something?
[11:28] <petros> i think there is bash variable for that
[11:28] <puckman> leafw: http://www.flickr.com/photos/puckman/sets/123674/
[11:28] <puckman> Bulletin Board Service
[11:29] <puckman> Mind you, WaReZ place and Pr0N place would be a better discription
[11:29] <_alex> hi,...and tks
[11:29] <leafw> I wonder how many of the google queries are pr0n related
[11:29] <Aapzak> my stepfather ran the BBS for a computerclub, so I had local access :)    but no pron on that board
[11:30] <_alex> and now....ladies and gentlman....
[11:30] <_alex> i have a problem with the monitor lcd resolution
[11:31] <Aapzak> oh puckman, I like the phonebooth picture, brilliant
[11:31] <puckman> hehehe, good money in that, I had a BBS with a premium phone line, 1.50 guilders a minute
[11:31] <Aapzak> wowza
[11:31] <_alex> in xorg.conf... i setup 1280x800 ...but on system->preference->displa
[11:31] <Aapzak> nothing commercial about our board, just for the club
[11:32] <_alex> display....there isn't this resolution..
[11:32] <leafw> I'm lost, Bulletin Board Service doesn't fire any neuron on me
[11:32] <puckman> before the internet you would dial into someones computer and leave mail
[11:32] <puckman> other users would logon and pick it up
[11:32] <Aapzak> anyway, any pcmcia acx users inhere?
[11:32] <puckman> then later BBS's started sharing mail
[11:32] <puckman> so you could mail from one BBS to the next
[11:33] <puckman> At my hight I had 38 modems and 4 hard drives
[11:33] <Aapzak> it worked quite well actually, I remember we also synced with other bbs'es
[11:33] <puckman> was making so much noise that I could not sleep
[11:33] <Aapzak> puckman, you must be rich
[11:33] <leafw> puckman: sounds like the descritpion of a complexity leap phase transition in communications
[11:34] <leafw> yeah, hardware was way more expensive back then
[11:34] <puckman> rich? i wish, when the internet came out first it cost a fortune and I was on it ALL the time
[11:34] <Aapzak> if you need 38 modems to generate 1.5 Fl. per minute
[11:34] <leafw> so you were poor from the bills, how terrible!
[11:34] <puckman> used to be a set fee a month and then extra for every megabyte i downloaded
[11:34] <_alex> where kde read the display resolution ???
[11:35] <Aapzak> I think from xorg
[11:35] <Aapzak> .conf
[11:35] <kosh> I doubt that kde even knows the display resolution
[11:35] <kosh> it can find it out though, but I don't think that anything uses it
[11:35] <Aapzak> me too
[11:35] <leafw> _alex: that is a X server issue
[11:35] <puckman> aint that in hardware?
[11:36] <puckman> the monitor bit?
[11:36] <_alex> but display show resolution such as 320x240 , and in xorg.conf there isn't this
[11:36] <_alex> *shows
[11:37] <Aapzak> puckman might be right, can't you read possible modes from the lcd device itself, maybe kde does that
[11:37] <Aapzak> I'm just guessing,
[11:38] <leafw> _alex: i nthe System Settings, Hardware/ Display, can't you just adjust the Screen size?
[11:38] <Aapzak> so you only have 1 resolution defined in xorg.conf, but thats not the one you're getting?
[11:38] <_alex> no...in that section........
[11:38] <Aapzak> 24 minutes before batt = empty :(
[11:38] <_alex> there isn't 1280x800
[11:39] <_alex> but in xorg.conf yes....
[11:39] <_alex> and this resolution is the one.
[11:39] <_alex> on xorg.conf.....
[11:39] <Aapzak> when I define only one resolution and only one colordepth and tell xorg the default color depth, I always get my resolution right
[11:39] <pulver> _alex: have you restarted the x server?
[11:39] <_alex> yes....
[11:40] <_alex> but itsn't...
[11:40] <Aapzak> have you checked the logs?
[11:40] <_alex> there isn't...
[11:40] <_alex> where ??
[11:40] <Aapzak> did you edit the xorg.conf? or is it a standard one?
[11:40] <_alex> do u know where kde read that resolution such as 320x240 ??
[11:41] <_alex> i'm edit the xorg.conf now..
[11:41] <Aapzak> what happens if you made a mistake?
[11:41] <_alex> what kind of mistake...
[11:42] <Aapzak> syntax?
[11:42] <Aapzak> xorg.conf is easy to screw up
[11:42] <leafw> Aapzak: just edit the file from a terminal. Type control+alt+F1 and login, then navigate to your file and edit it back.
[11:42] <_alex> in xorg.conf....the one resolution 1280x800, but kde display....seems don't read from these file...
[11:42] <leafw> command like editors such as emacs or vim will do.
[11:43] <leafw> most likely emacs is not installed, use vim.
[11:43] <_alex> no problem for edting on terminal :)
[11:43] <Aapzak> I'm allright, we're helping Ali
[11:43] <Aapzak> :)
[11:43] <leafw> ok
[11:43] <_alex> i try
[11:44] <Aapzak> grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:45] <Aapzak> shows errors
[11:45] <Aapzak> from xorg
[11:46] <_alex> well
[11:47] <_alex> what kind of grep i have do ....to watch the error ???
[11:47] <_alex> on /var/xorg....
[11:48] <Aapzak> interesting: http://www.kde-forum.org/post/56600/lastpost.html#post56600
[11:48] <me2win> how do you guys pronounce kubuntu?
[11:48] <Aapzak> Kubuntu
[11:48] <leafw> xD
[11:48] <me2win> like kay-ubuntu, kooboontoo
[11:48] <me2win> kuhboontoo
[11:48] <leafw> qooboontoo
[11:48] <kosh> pronounce it? why would you?
[11:48] <Aapzak> dutch: koeboentoe
[11:48] <me2win> heh
[11:49] <leafw> ready for bash.org
[11:49] <Aapzak> :)
[11:49] <me2win> heh
[11:49] <Aapzak> I've never been on bash.org
[11:49] <Aapzak> have read it, never been posted
[11:50] <andypre> Greetings. One question from somebody worked with Debian for years and now started switching over: To what extent can debian packages be used with kubuntu ?  I
[11:50] <andypre> Not about the package format, but of the dependencies.
[11:50] <leafw> andypre: with a lot of caution, but most standalone will work.
[11:50] <Aapzak> anyway, alex, my battery is running out, I won't be able to help you before I'm out of power
[11:50] <_alex> it is good??? cat Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)'
[11:51] <andypre> leafw: Simple example: mplayer from nerim would lead to broen depends.
[11:51] <Aapzak> alex, the line I send before does exactly what you want
[11:51] <Aapzak> grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:51] <leafw> andypre: there are mplayer packages for kubuntu I think.
[11:51] <leafw> just enable the multiverse.
[11:51] <andypre> leafw: will do, as soon as I found it ;-)
[11:51] <_alex> alex@ubuntu:/var/log$ grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:51] <_alex>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[11:52] <andypre> leafw: in general, what I meant: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2) but 1:4.0.1-4ubuntu9 is to be installed
[11:52] <andypre> things like that
[11:52] <leafw> andypre: in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <Aapzak> alex: no errors
[11:52] <leafw> andypre: just uncomment the multiverse line
[11:52] <leafw> then sudo apt-get update ... as usual
[11:52] <andypre> leafw: it is
[11:52] <_alex> so ....where kde/display read the strange resolution ?!?!?
[11:53] <andypre> one second, trying a different way
[11:53] <leafw> _alex: it's probably the fall-back default, when all else fails, so it is not necessary written anywhere
[11:53] <pulver> _alex: if you wish i can msg you my xorg.conf if you want to compare
[11:53] <leafw> _alex: did you google for your machine name, see if others had the same problem ?
[11:53] <Aapzak> but he has no errors in his xorg, according to the log
[11:53] <andypre> leafw: well, only mozilla-mplayer. Any apt-get.org alike for ubuntu ?
[11:54] <leafw> andypre: sudp apt-get install mplayer
[11:54] <leafw> or, use Adept from the menus, and do a search for 'mplayer'
[11:54] <andypre> leafw: E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[11:55] <leafw> I have the mplayer-powerpc package installed
[11:55] <andypre> leafw: Got this so far. Just looking for the correct repo.
[11:55] <Aapzak> mplayer-386
[11:55] <leafw> maybe it's mplayer-x86 ?
[11:55] <leafw> there
[11:55] <leafw> mplayer-386
[11:55] <Aapzak> or 586
[11:55] <andypre> apt-cache search wont find it.
[11:55] <Aapzak> andre, you're on breezy?
[11:55] <Aapzak> dapper?
[11:55] <leafw> andypre: give a try to Adept, really, it's useful.
[11:55] <andypre> breezy
[11:55] <Aapzak> and are using the universe?
[11:56] <andypre> leafw: used adep #t so far. pretty nice
[11:56] <leafw> it may be using apt-cache in ways you don't know
[11:56] <_alex> sorry for my english...but i want to say an easy things.......if kde show me many resolution (320x240,320x480), then kde is reading a text file with this specific resolution....my question is....where is this "text of resolutions" ???
[11:56] <Aapzak> apt-cache rules them all :)
[11:56] <leafw> did you do 'sudo apt-get update' after enabling the multiverse ?
[11:56] <andypre> yes
[11:56] <leafw> _alex: if all fails, grep your entire partition for it.
[11:57] <andypre> First thanks for all the help. Second, I used debain since about 2.? :-)
[11:57] <Aapzak> leafw: andypre is debian user for ages, should have no trouble using apt :)
[11:57] <leafw> andypre: there are users with many levels of knowledge here :)
[11:57] <Aapzak> :)
[11:57] <andypre> *sniff* ;-)
[11:57] <Aapzak> you're right
[11:57] <leafw> mplayer-586 should exist
[11:57] <sirblue> you might give automatix a try...
[11:58] <leafw> else, the server is down, try a different one .. see the kubuntu.org wiki for urls
[11:58] <andypre> leafw: well, using e.g. "ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main" it would
[11:58] <Aapzak> guys, I love a good distro talk, but with only 6 minutes left I'm shutting down before I crash ... cu all
[11:58] <andypre> Aapzak: cu
[11:58] <sirblue> cu
[11:58] <_alex> but now...the resolution of worlk is 1280x768......but this is an lcd...and with this resolution...the image....is really bad...
[11:59] <Aapzak> goodluck on xorg _alex
[11:59] <leafw> andypre: I use:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[12:00] <andypre> ieeek
[12:00] <andypre> leafw: 1000 times sorry
[12:00] <andypre> got multiverse
[12:00] <andypre> but only on backports
[12:00] <_alex> so.....what i do to do ??
[12:00] <leafw> good you fixed it
[12:00] <leafw> xD
[12:00] <andypre> somebody get away the beer ....
[12:01] <andypre> leafw: thanks so far
[12:01] <leafw> _alex: no ideas other than sudo apt-get install fluxbox and test whethet the resolution problem is an X server thing or a KDE thing (which I doubt)
[12:01] <leafw> andypre: np
[12:01] <_alex> ohh...now i restart x with gnome....an test the resolution....
[12:01] <_alex> se you. later ;)
[12:02] <leafw> _alex could be using BitchX inside a 'screen' and avoid getting int and out ..
[12:02] <leafw> getting 'int'! me and my programming mind