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mhzjsgotangco: ping02:12
jsgotangcomhz: hi02:24
mhzhi, mon02:24
mhzjsgotangco: sorry I have been so offlines02:25
mhzjsgotangco: but I have been sick like hell02:25
mhz.oO(hmm, like hell? I mean, very sick)02:25
mhz;)02:25
jsgotangcoi see02:26
jsgotangcoi've been busy myself02:26
mhzjsgotangco: please do not think I am less interested in doing what we think it is needed02:27
mhzMy guess is that I should be recovered by weekend02:27
mhzactually, it is difficult for me to stay up for longer than 30 to 50 minutes02:28
mhzso I try to answer some mails and keep up with inbox (huge insane amount of un-read emails02:29
jsgotangcoits ok i'm going to do a content push this weekend this week has been hectic for me as well02:46
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Burgundaviaok, xchat-gnome sucks03:09
LaserJocklol, it took you this long to find that out ;-)03:12
robotgeeki keep coming back to irssi 03:12
BurgundaviaI changed my nick to just Burgundavia and then reconnected03:12
Burgundaviait remembered the old setting03:12
Burgundaviabut took the new nickserv password. Grr..03:12
Burgundaviaxchat-gnome has some great ideas, it is just badly executed'03:14
robotgeekkonversation is decent, i probably will have to try kvirc soon03:14
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Burgundaviathe screenshots of konversation leave me less than inspired03:16
robotgeekwhy?03:17
Burgundaviathey look exactly like bloody xchat03:18
robotgeeklol03:18
LaserJockI like xchat though03:18
Burgundaviaxchat isn't bad, its configuration is just draconian03:18
LaserJockhmm, perhaps03:19
LaserJockI just don't know that they needed to go to such extremes. If I could smash xchat and xchat-gnome into one, working app I'd be pretty happy, I think03:20
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Madpilothi robi08:02
Madpilotrobitaille...08:03
Madpilotfunny how tab-complete only works when you actually hit Tab :P08:03
robitaillehi Madpilot 08:03
Burgundaviasalut robitaille Madpilot08:03
robitaillebonsoir Burgundavia 08:03
robotgeekhey Madpilot Burgundavia 08:04
robotgeekalso robitaille :)08:04
MadpilotBurgundavia - got your desktop running again?08:04
robotgeekmy desktop is screwed08:04
BurgundaviaMadpilot: I heard about the breakage at work and haven't upgraded08:06
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Burgundaviait now dims teh screen, but doesn't treat keyboard events as events worth not dimming the screen for08:07
Madpilotbreakage in Dapper? (what a shock!)08:07
robotgeekMadpilot: how to write documentation for it then lol08:07
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robitailleI like the new gnome splash screen...08:07
Burgundaviarobitaille: which one?08:09
robitaillejust checking things around after my first reboot after today upgrades.  the windows buttons look different now08:09
robitaillethe splash screen saying "this is not the final artwork" :)08:09
Burgundaviaah08:09
Madpilot"This is not the artwork you were looking for."08:10
robitaillethere is a new icon in my top menu beside my firefox icon:  "time and date".  Weird08:12
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Burgundaviaseems we made digg09:14
Burgundaviathe official ubuntu book, that is09:14
robotgeekBurgundavia: well, good publicity :)09:15
Burgundaviait hit fridge09:15
robotgeekthat i saw in my feed09:15
bhuvanBurgundavia: wonderful!09:16
bhuvanrobotgeek: feed ?09:16
robotgeekbhuvan: rss feed fridge09:17
robotgeeki meant, rss feed for fridge09:17
bhuvanrobotgeek: url ?09:17
robotgeekbhuvan: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ , it should show up if you are using firefox?09:18
bhuvanrobotgeek: yes, thanks09:19
robotgeekBurgundavia: i just noticed that fridge has a [Discuss]  thing to the forums, it this automagic?09:20
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robitaillerobotgeek:  I think it is automagic  it's something jdub wanted to do since the beginning of the Fridge.09:27
robotgeekrobitaille: then why isn't it on the wiki, :P09:27
Burgundaviarobotgeek: goes to the forums09:28
robotgeekBurgundavia: yeah, that would make discussing howto's very easy, i think09:29
mdkerob, around?09:36
mdkerob, unping09:37
mdkejdub, can you login to chanserv and add me or yourself to 49 access level points please for this channel, then add Burgundavia and jsgotangco as at least 10, kthxofftowork09:39
Burgundavianight allk09:41
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Kamping_At_Hutis ubuntu starter guide on doc.ubuntu.com?10:06
robotgeekyes10:06
Kamping_At_Hutok. ill try and find it. im after some codec help ;)10:07
Madpilotfor Dapper it's been changed to the Desktop Guides - one each for Ubuntu & Kubuntu10:07
Kamping_At_Hutah, that explains that confusion. 10:08
Madpilotwe like confusing people :P10:08
Kamping_At_Hutso i see ;)10:08
robotgeekKamping_At_Hut: kde?10:08
Kamping_At_Hutrobotgeek: cli10:09
Kamping_At_Huti need to find out what gstreamer/stuff to install for my noise making while gnome downloads ;)10:09
robotgeeklibxine-extracodecs10:09
Madpilotlook for the Ubuntu Desktop Guide, then - link on the right of doc.u.c10:10
Kamping_At_Hutfound it thanks :) after the name change was cleared up10:10
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MadpilotKSG?10:12
robotgeekKDG, sorry10:12
robotgeekot KDSG, lol10:13
MadpilotI think the d.u.c HTML is part of our SVN - you might be able to edit it yourself10:13
bhuvanrobotgeek: you can edit sidebar.inc.php and include the link yourself10:13
robotgeeki notice that typos increase with increasing sleepiness10:13
robotgeekbhuvan: umm, nice. thanks10:13
robotgeeki'll take a look at it tommorow, don't want to screw anything up right now10:14
Madpilotrobotgeek, is the KDG going to replace the Kubuntu User Manual already listed there, or are they different things?10:15
robotgeekMadpilot: i don't think that has been updated at all10:16
bhuvanrobotgeek: btw, it should be KDG10:16
bhuvanrobotgeek: refer this thread https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-January/004861.html10:17
bhuvanrobotgeek: we should do s/KDSG/KDG if we have not already10:17
robotgeekbhuvan: cool, i think it's actually referred to as an enitity, so it's only one replace10:18
bhuvanrobotgeek: great10:18
robotgeekMadpilot: i have no clue about the User Guide10:19
Madpilotheh10:19
Madpilotupstream KDE guide?10:19
robotgeekMadpilot: however, i see lots of good stuff to copy, lol10:20
robotgeekMadpilot: i think it was left incomplete for breezy, even10:21
Madpilotwhere's it from?10:21
robotgeekmeaning?10:21
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Madpilotrobotgeek, I was just wondering if it's an incomplete Kubuntu thing, or an incomplete thing from upstream, ie the actual KDE project?10:22
robotgeekMadpilot: i think it's an incomplete Kubuntu thing10:23
MadpilotKamping_At_Hut, those are my favourite docs - or the ones that have big sections labelled "To Write" :P10:23
robotgeekit says Kubuntu etc10:23
robotgeekall over the place10:23
Kamping_At_HutMadpilot: <grin> 10:23
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Madpilothey, I got involved in this insanity because I saw big sections in the Ubuntu docs with "To write" in them, and said, "Hey, that's actually easy stuff, even a noob like me could write it!"10:24
Madpilot:P10:24
robotgeekMadpilot: i am mainly pissed off by lack of documentation10:25
Kamping_At_HutMadpilot: thats why i tred to get involved - and my various orgs just ate all my time as soon as i sat down to contribute ;)10:25
robotgeeki realise that it's not the most interesting thing to do, but this is the single most important area where kubuntu (and linux) need to improve10:26
robotgeekanyways, i gotta hit the sack. later10:26
Kamping_At_Hutrobotgeek: i dont think its something jsut linux has to improve ;)10:26
Kamping_At_Hutlater mate10:26
Kamping_At_Hutthe sofware world is badly documented (as i might add, are large blocks of teh physical :D)10:27
robotgeekKamping_At_Hut: i spent a whole week trying to figure out a python package called scipy for my thesis work10:27
robotgeeksadly, that was the best documented part. 10:27
robotgeekerr, program10:27
robotgeeki even referred to matlab docuementation to understand what was happening, lol10:28
Kamping_At_Hutheh. 10:28
robotgeekanyways, laters10:28
MadpilotKamping_At_Hut, yeah, I'm *still* looking for the documentation on h. sapiens :P10:28
Kamping_At_Hutlol. 10:28
Madpilotlater, robotgeek 10:29
Kamping_At_Hutbtw. i have lots of half complete documentation from the 3 orgs i work with. would there be any point me checking it against our svn repo and seeing if it can be merged in part? its not all 'average user' docs - like howto make an ubuntu mirror/server etc - but some of it may be of some use10:34
Kamping_At_Huteven the not so average user stuff i hope might fit in somewhere10:34
MadpilotKamping_At_Hut, might want to ask on the docteam mailing list10:35
Madpilotor ask mdke when he appears in a while10:35
Kamping_At_HutMadpilot: ok. if i rememer when i get home ill ask :)10:36
Kamping_At_Huthm. 10:36
Kamping_At_Hutill give that a shot as well10:36
Kamping_At_Hutthanks Madpilot10:36
Madpilotnp10:36
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Kamping_At_Hutshould all our pages be using the same xml version? i just noticed my page has a different xml versointo another in the archive, and that was a page i copied from someone else11:33
Kamping_At_Hutjust not sure where else11:33
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mdkejdub, ok don't worry, it's done03:15
mdkejsgotangco, Burgwork, you can get ops now03:16
jsgotangcoops?03:16
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jsgotangcoahhh03:16
jsgotangcok03:16
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jsgotangcothanks03:17
mdkenp03:17
mdkei can't give you the power to add more ops, but I think jdub can if necessary. Anyhow, me and him can make more ops03:20
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jsgotangcomdke: i don't mind at all04:32
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jsgotangcogood night05:57
Burgworkmdke, thanks06:33
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jjesseslow day today on the channel and mailing list :)07:17
BurgworkI could spame the list? :)07:21
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