[02:12] <mhz> jsgotangco: ping
[02:24] <jsgotangco> mhz: hi
[02:24] <mhz> hi, mon
[02:25] <mhz> jsgotangco: sorry I have been so offlines
[02:25] <mhz> jsgotangco: but I have been sick like hell
[02:25] <mhz> .oO(hmm, like hell? I mean, very sick)
[02:25] <mhz> ;)
[02:26] <jsgotangco> i see
[02:26] <jsgotangco> i've been busy myself
[02:27] <mhz> jsgotangco: please do not think I am less interested in doing what we think it is needed
[02:27] <mhz> My guess is that I should be recovered by weekend
[02:28] <mhz> actually, it is difficult for me to stay up for longer than 30 to 50 minutes
[02:29] <mhz> so I try to answer some mails and keep up with inbox (huge insane amount of un-read emails
[02:46] <jsgotangco> its ok i'm going to do a content push this weekend this week has been hectic for me as well
[03:09] <Burgundavia> ok, xchat-gnome sucks
[03:12] <LaserJock> lol, it took you this long to find that out ;-)
[03:12] <robotgeek> i keep coming back to irssi 
[03:12] <Burgundavia> I changed my nick to just Burgundavia and then reconnected
[03:12] <Burgundavia> it remembered the old setting
[03:12] <Burgundavia> but took the new nickserv password. Grr..
[03:14] <Burgundavia> xchat-gnome has some great ideas, it is just badly executed'
[03:14] <robotgeek> konversation is decent, i probably will have to try kvirc soon
[03:16] <Burgundavia> the screenshots of konversation leave me less than inspired
[03:17] <robotgeek> why?
[03:18] <Burgundavia> they look exactly like bloody xchat
[03:18] <robotgeek> lol
[03:18] <LaserJock> I like xchat though
[03:18] <Burgundavia> xchat isn't bad, its configuration is just draconian
[03:19] <LaserJock> hmm, perhaps
[03:20] <LaserJock> I just don't know that they needed to go to such extremes. If I could smash xchat and xchat-gnome into one, working app I'd be pretty happy, I think
[08:02] <Madpilot> hi robi
[08:03] <Madpilot> robitaille...
[08:03] <Madpilot> funny how tab-complete only works when you actually hit Tab :P
[08:03] <robitaille> hi Madpilot 
[08:03] <Burgundavia> salut robitaille Madpilot
[08:03] <robitaille> bonsoir Burgundavia 
[08:04] <robotgeek> hey Madpilot Burgundavia 
[08:04] <robotgeek> also robitaille :)
[08:04] <Madpilot> Burgundavia - got your desktop running again?
[08:04] <robotgeek> my desktop is screwed
[08:06] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: I heard about the breakage at work and haven't upgraded
[08:07] <Burgundavia> it now dims teh screen, but doesn't treat keyboard events as events worth not dimming the screen for
[08:07] <Madpilot> breakage in Dapper? (what a shock!)
[08:07] <robotgeek> Madpilot: how to write documentation for it then lol
[08:07] <robitaille> I like the new gnome splash screen...
[08:09] <Burgundavia> robitaille: which one?
[08:09] <robitaille> just checking things around after my first reboot after today upgrades.  the windows buttons look different now
[08:09] <robitaille> the splash screen saying "this is not the final artwork" :)
[08:09] <Burgundavia> ah
[08:10] <Madpilot> "This is not the artwork you were looking for."
[08:12] <robitaille> there is a new icon in my top menu beside my firefox icon:  "time and date".  Weird
[09:14] <Burgundavia> seems we made digg
[09:14] <Burgundavia> the official ubuntu book, that is
[09:15] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: well, good publicity :)
[09:15] <Burgundavia> it hit fridge
[09:15] <robotgeek> that i saw in my feed
[09:16] <bhuvan> Burgundavia: wonderful!
[09:16] <bhuvan> robotgeek: feed ?
[09:17] <robotgeek> bhuvan: rss feed fridge
[09:17] <robotgeek> i meant, rss feed for fridge
[09:17] <bhuvan> robotgeek: url ?
[09:18] <robotgeek> bhuvan: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ , it should show up if you are using firefox?
[09:19] <bhuvan> robotgeek: yes, thanks
[09:20] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: i just noticed that fridge has a [Discuss]  thing to the forums, it this automagic?
[09:27] <robitaille> robotgeek:  I think it is automagic  it's something jdub wanted to do since the beginning of the Fridge.
[09:27] <robotgeek> robitaille: then why isn't it on the wiki, :P
[09:28] <Burgundavia> robotgeek: goes to the forums
[09:29] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: yeah, that would make discussing howto's very easy, i think
[09:36] <mdke> rob, around?
[09:37] <mdke> rob, unping
[09:39] <mdke> jdub, can you login to chanserv and add me or yourself to 49 access level points please for this channel, then add Burgundavia and jsgotangco as at least 10, kthxofftowork
[09:41] <Burgundavia> night allk
[10:06] <Kamping_At_Hut> is ubuntu starter guide on doc.ubuntu.com?
[10:06] <robotgeek> yes
[10:07] <Kamping_At_Hut> ok. ill try and find it. im after some codec help ;)
[10:07] <Madpilot> for Dapper it's been changed to the Desktop Guides - one each for Ubuntu & Kubuntu
[10:08] <Kamping_At_Hut> ah, that explains that confusion. 
[10:08] <Madpilot> we like confusing people :P
[10:08] <Kamping_At_Hut> so i see ;)
[10:08] <robotgeek> Kamping_At_Hut: kde?
[10:09] <Kamping_At_Hut> robotgeek: cli
[10:09] <Kamping_At_Hut> i need to find out what gstreamer/stuff to install for my noise making while gnome downloads ;)
[10:09] <robotgeek> libxine-extracodecs
[10:10] <Madpilot> look for the Ubuntu Desktop Guide, then - link on the right of doc.u.c
[10:10] <Kamping_At_Hut> found it thanks :) after the name change was cleared up
[10:12] <Madpilot> KSG?
[10:12] <robotgeek> KDG, sorry
[10:13] <robotgeek> ot KDSG, lol
[10:13] <Madpilot> I think the d.u.c HTML is part of our SVN - you might be able to edit it yourself
[10:13] <bhuvan> robotgeek: you can edit sidebar.inc.php and include the link yourself
[10:13] <robotgeek> i notice that typos increase with increasing sleepiness
[10:13] <robotgeek> bhuvan: umm, nice. thanks
[10:14] <robotgeek> i'll take a look at it tommorow, don't want to screw anything up right now
[10:15] <Madpilot> robotgeek, is the KDG going to replace the Kubuntu User Manual already listed there, or are they different things?
[10:16] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i don't think that has been updated at all
[10:16] <bhuvan> robotgeek: btw, it should be KDG
[10:17] <bhuvan> robotgeek: refer this thread https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-January/004861.html
[10:17] <bhuvan> robotgeek: we should do s/KDSG/KDG if we have not already
[10:18] <robotgeek> bhuvan: cool, i think it's actually referred to as an enitity, so it's only one replace
[10:18] <bhuvan> robotgeek: great
[10:19] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i have no clue about the User Guide
[10:19] <Madpilot> heh
[10:19] <Madpilot> upstream KDE guide?
[10:20] <robotgeek> Madpilot: however, i see lots of good stuff to copy, lol
[10:21] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i think it was left incomplete for breezy, even
[10:21] <Madpilot> where's it from?
[10:21] <robotgeek> meaning?
[10:22] <Madpilot> robotgeek, I was just wondering if it's an incomplete Kubuntu thing, or an incomplete thing from upstream, ie the actual KDE project?
[10:23] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i think it's an incomplete Kubuntu thing
[10:23] <Madpilot> Kamping_At_Hut, those are my favourite docs - or the ones that have big sections labelled "To Write" :P
[10:23] <robotgeek> it says Kubuntu etc
[10:23] <robotgeek> all over the place
[10:23] <Kamping_At_Hut> Madpilot: <grin> 
[10:24] <Madpilot> hey, I got involved in this insanity because I saw big sections in the Ubuntu docs with "To write" in them, and said, "Hey, that's actually easy stuff, even a noob like me could write it!"
[10:24] <Madpilot> :P
[10:25] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i am mainly pissed off by lack of documentation
[10:25] <Kamping_At_Hut> Madpilot: thats why i tred to get involved - and my various orgs just ate all my time as soon as i sat down to contribute ;)
[10:26] <robotgeek> i realise that it's not the most interesting thing to do, but this is the single most important area where kubuntu (and linux) need to improve
[10:26] <robotgeek> anyways, i gotta hit the sack. later
[10:26] <Kamping_At_Hut> robotgeek: i dont think its something jsut linux has to improve ;)
[10:26] <Kamping_At_Hut> later mate
[10:27] <Kamping_At_Hut> the sofware world is badly documented (as i might add, are large blocks of teh physical :D)
[10:27] <robotgeek> Kamping_At_Hut: i spent a whole week trying to figure out a python package called scipy for my thesis work
[10:27] <robotgeek> sadly, that was the best documented part. 
[10:27] <robotgeek> err, program
[10:28] <robotgeek> i even referred to matlab docuementation to understand what was happening, lol
[10:28] <Kamping_At_Hut> heh. 
[10:28] <robotgeek> anyways, laters
[10:28] <Madpilot> Kamping_At_Hut, yeah, I'm *still* looking for the documentation on h. sapiens :P
[10:28] <Kamping_At_Hut> lol. 
[10:29] <Madpilot> later, robotgeek 
[10:34] <Kamping_At_Hut> btw. i have lots of half complete documentation from the 3 orgs i work with. would there be any point me checking it against our svn repo and seeing if it can be merged in part? its not all 'average user' docs - like howto make an ubuntu mirror/server etc - but some of it may be of some use
[10:34] <Kamping_At_Hut> even the not so average user stuff i hope might fit in somewhere
[10:35] <Madpilot> Kamping_At_Hut, might want to ask on the docteam mailing list
[10:35] <Madpilot> or ask mdke when he appears in a while
[10:36] <Kamping_At_Hut> Madpilot: ok. if i rememer when i get home ill ask :)
[10:36] <Kamping_At_Hut> hm. 
[10:36] <Kamping_At_Hut> ill give that a shot as well
[10:36] <Kamping_At_Hut> thanks Madpilot
[10:36] <Madpilot> np
[11:33] <Kamping_At_Hut> should all our pages be using the same xml version? i just noticed my page has a different xml versointo another in the archive, and that was a page i copied from someone else
[11:33] <Kamping_At_Hut> just not sure where else
[03:15] <mdke> jdub, ok don't worry, it's done
[03:16] <mdke> jsgotangco, Burgwork, you can get ops now
[03:16] <jsgotangco> ops?
[03:16] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[03:16] <jsgotangco> k
[03:17] <jsgotangco> thanks
[03:17] <mdke> np
[03:20] <mdke> i can't give you the power to add more ops, but I think jdub can if necessary. Anyhow, me and him can make more ops
[04:32] <jsgotangco> mdke: i don't mind at all
[05:57] <jsgotangco> good night
[06:33] <Burgwork> mdke, thanks
[07:17] <jjesse> slow day today on the channel and mailing list :)
[07:21] <Burgwork> I could spame the list? :)