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LaserJockajmitch_: ping?12:14
ajmitch_LaserJock: yessir?12:14
LaserJockajmitch_: is it ok to patch Makefile.in and Makefile.am?12:15
TheMusoLaserJock: Better to alter configure.in/configure.ac if you can.12:16
TheMusoI think. Depends on what it is.12:16
LaserJockTheMuso: I'm trying to fix malone bug 663612:17
Ubugtumalone bug 6636 in qgis "help html doesn't launch" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/663612:17
LaserJockbasically the program thinks the docs are in a different path12:17
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TheMusoLaserJock: Downloading to have a look now.12:18
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ajmitch_LaserJock: yes it's generally ok12:20
LaserJockok, so when you hit "help" the program looks for /usr/share/<pkg>/doc/ but the docs are installed in /usr/share/doc/<pkg>12:21
marcin`hi MOTU's12:21
LaserJockand even the doc itself says that it is supposed to be in /sr/share/doc/<pkg>12:21
LaserJockhi marcin`12:21
marcin`short question today - how can I file ITP ?12:21
TheMusoLaserJock: Have you looked at doc/Makefile.am?12:21
TheMusoSOrry no it doesn't.12:22
LaserJockTheMuso: yes, that is why I wanted to patch the Makefile12:22
TheMusoYeah I know.12:22
LaserJockmarcin`: reportbug12:22
TheMusoI see. The Makefile.am in the package root is different to the Makefile.am in the doc/ dir.12:23
TheMusoYes, best to patch it.12:23
marcin`LaserJock: I was trying to use this but I don't understand this or manual is outdated12:23
LaserJockTheMuso: they are different?12:24
TheMusothe Makefile.am in the root directory of the package seems to be diferent to the doc/Makefile.am.12:24
marcin`LaserJock: reportbug --email my at email wnpp ?12:24
TheMusodocdatadir = $(datadir)/$(PACKAGE)/doc in Makefile.am as opposed to docdatadir = $(datadir)/doc/$(PACKAGE) in doc/Makefile.am12:25
LaserJockTheMuso: are you looking at the source package? or the orig.tar.gz?12:26
TheMusoThe source package.12:26
TheMusoFrom universe.12:26
TheMusoThere seems to be a diff in the .diff.gz file.12:27
TheMusoThere is a combination of patches in the debian/patches directory, and patched files in he diff itself.12:28
LaserJockyeah, I noticed12:28
LaserJockI'm trying to keep it all straight :/12:28
TheMusoMessy.12:28
LaserJockno wonder the .diff.gz is 80K12:29
TheMusoYeah.12:30
LaserJockTheMuso: so what do you think would be the best course of action? make a patch for Makefile.am or put it in the .diff.tar.gz too?12:31
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LaserJockor let upstream fix the mess ;-)12:32
TheMusoLaserJock: Don't really know. It would be worth checkin the other Makefiles that have been patched as well to see what was changed.12:33
TheMusoI wonder what came first though? The debian/patches directory or the patches in the diff.gz file?12:33
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netzmeisteryeah i'm on a good way.. the seamonkey package is building..12:34
netzmeister*dance*12:34
raphinkgreat :)12:34
LaserJockTheMuso: it looks like all the Makefile patches are for the doc directory.12:35
TheMusoRight. Well they missed one.12:35
raphinknetzmeister: could you review it before uploading it please ? see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Reviewing and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU/REVU-Tools12:35
TheMusoAnd I would say it isn't working due to the root Makefile.am etc not being patched.12:36
TheMusoBut I think tere is more to it. Looking deeper. :)12:36
netzmeisterraphink:  yes. i will upload the "codeblocks" package before..12:37
TheMusoLaserJock: Try changing Makefile.am and Makefile.in in the root dir and see what happens.12:38
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raphinknetzmeister: ok12:39
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netzmeisterahh i'm tired & out..12:52
netzmeistercu later12:52
netzmeisterbye bye12:53
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LaserJockhi Unfrgiven12:57
UnfrgivenLaserJock: hey dude12:59
UnfrgivenLaserJock: how r u12:59
ajmitch_hey Unfrgiven12:59
ajmitch_long time no see01:00
Unfrgivenajmitch_: gday mate01:00
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Unfrgivenajmitch_: indeed, its been a while...01:00
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TheMusoLaserJock: Howd you go?01:00
Unfrgivenajmitch_: how have u been?01:00
ajmitch_Unfrgiven: I'm back in .au again, brisbane this time01:00
Xoritoranyone here using dapper 64bit tried to play 32bit nwn?01:01
Unfrgivenajmitch_: oh cool. u've moved here?01:01
Xoritorit _used_ to work01:01
ajmitch_Unfrgiven: nah just doing some work here01:01
ajmitch_Unfrgiven: I've been ok, a bit busy as well01:01
Xoritorhmm01:01
Xoritorsorry wrong chan01:01
Xoritorhahaha01:01
LaserJockTheMuso: it's building, I'm going to test it out ;-)01:01
Unfrgivenajmitch_: oic... cool.01:03
LaserJockUnfrgiven: have you had a chance to work on your IntroDeveloperDoc? I've been working on http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html01:03
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UnfrgivenLaserJock: to be honest, I havent had the time. i'd like to help out though, where possible. i noticed that flight4 had a very different looking document to the one i submitted01:06
UnfrgivenLaserJock: is this one an entirely new doc or a reorgansied version of mine?01:08
LaserJockUnfrgiven: yeah, I'd like your opinion for sure, and any help would be appreciated.  I did a lot of restructuring.01:08
LaserJockUnfrgiven: well, it is basically an entirely new doc, but I'm using all kinds of sources. I'm hoping to incorporate all your material01:09
LaserJockTheMuso: arggh, it didn't work. That is so weird.01:25
TheMusoLaserJock: Still building here, will let you know how I go.01:27
LaserJockTheMuso: but I did find another place where docdatadir is set01:27
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LaserJockTheMuso: doc/skin/ has the wrong path01:28
LaserJockI bet that is it01:28
TheMusoRight.01:28
LaserJockhmm, I don't know though, I don't see why that would effect the "Help"01:30
TheMusoStill going for me, a big package on a slowish machine.01:31
LaserJockyeah01:32
LaserJockTheMuso: so did you change all occurrences of docdatadir?01:34
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TheMusoNo, only the root dir Makefile.am/in01:35
TheMusoWhat ones need changing?01:35
LaserJockI changed just the root ones too and it didn't work. but I didn't change doc/Makefile or doc/skin/Makefile.{am,in}01:36
LaserJockI wonder if I should leave doc/skin alone01:37
LaserJockTheMuso: are the Makefile's recreated at build time?01:38
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TheMusoThe Makefiles are usually created by the configure script.01:46
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herzidholbach: ping01:49
dholbachherzi: pong01:49
LaserJockTheMuso: that's what I thought, which only left doc/skins/ with a wrong path01:51
TheMusoRight. So are yo building again?01:51
TheMusoDecided to stop my build. That program is huuuge.01:52
TheMusoAnd if you have found another file to change, there is no point continuing.01:52
LaserJockTheMuso: yeah, I'm building again01:53
TheMusoLet me know how you go.01:53
LaserJocksure01:54
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LaserJockhi thierry02:00
thierryhi LaserJock02:01
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LaserJockTheMuso: arggh, that wasn't it02:12
TheMusoWoo.02:13
TheMusoThis is a tough one.02:13
LaserJockTheMuso: it acts like it is hardcoded, but it can't be02:14
TheMusohmmm02:15
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LaserJockTheMuso: ahhh, I think I might have found something02:17
TheMusoCool.02:17
LaserJockit is hard coded02:18
TheMusoSo even the Debian maintainer muscent be aware of that.02:18
TheMusoWhere abouts?02:18
LaserJockin src/qgisapp.cpp02:18
TheMusoeww.02:18
TheMusoSomeone was very naughty.02:18
LaserJockline 403402:18
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LaserJock url = "file://" + mAppDir + "/share/qgis/doc/" + url;02:19
TheMusoI guess you need to refer to a variable of some sort.02:19
TheMusoSo that autoconf fixes that up or something.02:19
LaserJockwell, I could really just change it because the doc itself has the path so it should be consistent, but that isn't very elegant02:20
TheMusoYeah.02:20
TheMusoBut you don't want to hard code it to something else.02:20
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psusiwhat does apt-get source invoke to unpack a source package?02:21
LaserJockdpkg-source -x02:21
psusiahh... let me try that...02:21
TheMusopsusi: I think it uses the file grab mechanism to download, and then calls dpkg-source -x I believe.02:21
psusihrm...02:21
psusiI have the .orig.tar.gz and the diff...02:22
TheMusoYou need the .dsc02:22
psusiif I manually extract the tar.gz though and then apply the diff with patch, the modes aren't right... debian/rules isn't executable for instance02:22
TheMusoYou could unpack it manually if you wanted to.02:22
psusiahh... so dpkg-source -x foo.dsc?02:22
TheMusoChmod =x debian/rules02:22
TheMusopsusi: Yes.02:22
psusibingo02:24
LaserJockTheMuso: well, I honestly don't know how to add the variable correctly.02:24
TheMusoLaserJock: Ask in -devel. There is very likely an autoconf/automake guru in there somewhere.02:27
LaserJockTheMuso: interesting, I just found a bug report in upstream where they changed the path to what it is now02:32
LaserJockI wonder if we should actually be installing the docs in /usr/share/qgis/docs/02:33
LaserJocksince that is the author's intent02:33
TheMusoI don't know.02:35
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TheMusoI thought /usr/share/doc/$PACKAGE WAS ONLY FOR PACKAGE RELATED DOCS SUCH AS readme, ETC.02:35
dolsonwhoa02:36
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LaserJockis there a difference between /usr/share/doc/$package and /usr/share/$package/doc in this case?02:38
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LaserJockI think /usr/share/$package/doc might be more appropriate, but I was just going from the Debian maintainer had done02:38
TheMusoFair enough.02:39
TheMusoI guess if the application has a help system that goes there, that is how it should be.02:40
TheMusoMany apps put stuff in /usr/share/$PACKAGE.02:40
bluepixelhey guys .. i am new to ubuntu. i already upgraded to dapper and i think the update-manager has many problems. after every upgrade, no matter what was upgraded, a restart of the whole machine is required. that cant be.02:40
LaserJockbut I agree that it seems pretty dumb for the upstream to hard code the help path02:40
TheMusoLaserJock: Because daadir is an autoconf variable./02:43
TheMusodatadir even.02:43
TheMusoSome crazy ricer might have datadir as /app/datadir or something.02:43
ajmitch_TheMuso: you've been using gentoo?02:44
TheMusoajmitch_: No.02:44
ajmitch_when someone says 'crazy ricer' I always think of gentoo for some reason02:45
TheMusoajmitch_: Thats what I was thinking. Just wanted to use an example to put the point accross.02:45
LaserJockajmitch_: really?02:46
ajmitch_LaserJock: of course02:47
LaserJockajmitch_: hmm, somehow I don't02:47
ajmitch_that's a surprise02:47
ajmitch_LaserJock: go & laugh at www.funroll-loops.org for awhile02:48
LaserJockah02:48
bluepixelis it okay, that the update manager wants to reboot the machine after every upgrade? i think, this should only be done after kernel was upgraded02:48
LaserJockbluepixel: this isn't a support channel so you better off filing a bug or asking #ubuntu02:49
ajmitch_I believe it's known & mvo is hopefully fixing it :)02:49
dholbachbetter ask in #ubuntu unless it's *really* a bug02:49
bluepixelLaserJock, thanks02:50
dholbachupdate-manager is not part of Universe so nothing MOTUs could change02:50
ajmitch_dholbach: thanks for sorting the f-spot UVF stuff :)02:50
dholbachajmitch_: not to worry02:50
bluepixelsry, i use ubuntu for about 5? days now .. i have to learn how the community works02:51
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dholbachbluepixel: Have fun in the Ubuntu community! :)02:51
bluepixelthanks.02:52
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nictukuHi. I'm making a deb package for a software I'm developing but I wonder what approach should I take to do all installation procedures. I mean, it has no Makefile or distutils. I wonder if it's sane to leave debian/rules to do all the dirty work there.02:57
dolsonyou're the upstream?02:58
nictukuyes02:59
dolsonwould it be easier to make a Makefile for everyone, including users of other distros?02:59
nictukuwell.. should automake create users and set file permissions?03:00
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dolsonhey zakame03:01
zakamehello MOTUs! :D03:01
zakamehi dolson! :D03:01
dolsonnictuku: doesn't dh_fixperms fix permissions?03:01
nictukudoes it? :-)03:02
dolsonor do you mean ownership?03:02
nictukuboth03:02
dolsonI haven't dealt with packages that make users yet.. but zakame will help you03:02
dolsonright zakame?03:02
nictukuthe point is, I'm sure debian/rules can do the job, but it this the "RightWay" ?03:02
TheMusoI think the postinst script sets up the user.03:03
TheMusoWhat is the user for?03:03
nictukuprivilege separation03:03
nictukuit's a service03:03
TheMusoRight.03:03
TheMusoI suggest having a look at a package like speech-dispatcher. That is one off the top of my head that does what you are wanting to do.03:03
zakamehmm pkgs that make users should have a Depends on adduser iirc03:04
TheMusoIt has a dependancy of adduser, and I think that gets done in the postinst script, but not entirely sure.03:04
nictukuinteresting03:04
TheMusozakame: The one I am thinking of does for sue.03:04
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nictukuI get tired only to think that this package will even have to create SSL certificates, create "generic" database and tables, etc.03:06
nictukuso do you think I could just do not use autoconf, automake and python's distutils?03:06
nictukuand let the inst scripts do the all the work03:07
TheMusoWhat language is the package written in?03:07
TheMusoAnd where does it place files?03:07
nictukupython03:08
zakamesee http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s10.903:08
nictukuI am reading the maint-guide and I've read the python policy, btw.03:09
TheMusoJust checcked that package I mentioned, and the user does indeed get created in the postinst script.03:09
zakamehello slomo ajmitch_03:09
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nictukuthank you TheMuso, I'll check that.03:11
LaserJockbmonty: hi!03:11
bmontyhey LaserJock03:11
ajmitchhi03:12
ajmitchhopefully it's just DSL at home that's died03:12
LaserJock:(03:12
zakamehello bmonty LaserJock03:14
bmontyhi zakame and ajmitch03:14
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LaserJockhi zakame03:16
ajmitchthere it goes..03:17
LaserJockajmitch: man, funroll-loops.org is quite amusing. I hadn't realized.03:17
ajmitchLaserJock: yeah :)03:18
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nictuku./configure --with-nobugs ; make optimized03:21
LaserJockajmitch: I like this one, ""I essentially started using Gentoo because my ....ing KDE clock would never show the right time in Red Hat."03:22
LaserJock"03:22
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ajmitchLaserJock: there are some gems in there :)03:24
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LathiatLaserJock: hehe03:24
Lathiatyeh i love it03:24
Lathiati also love the bug report03:24
Lathiatwith the 50 bazillion compilter flags03:24
LaserJockoh yeah03:24
ajmitch_and dsl is back03:25
LaserJockI once installed a nice app that when through all the CFLAGS and picked and optimized set for your computer03:25
LaserJockit was a nice waste of 2 days of cpu time ;-)03:25
ajmitch-O99 -ffast-math -sse303:26
hubis there a free jvm that works in Universe?03:26
hubthat I could use fronm withing firefox03:26
LaserJockajmitch: I think mine took up ~ 2-3 lines03:26
ajmitchLaserJock: sure03:26
ajmitchand I'm sure the 0.05% performance improvement was worth it03:27
bluepixellol03:27
TheMusohehe03:27
ajmitchthough some optimisations can be detrimental instead, causing cache misses, etc03:27
bluepixelthe main advantage of portage is to decide, which softwareparts shall belong to the software, not the speed-imrovements. :)03:28
bluepixelbut this is also no sorry for compiling all on your machine03:29
LaserJockwell, I actually went from Gentoo to Ubuntu because I was wasting so much time compiling/tweaking that I didn't get any work done03:29
LaserJockbut now look at me03:29
LaserJockI don't think it was the distro that had the problem ;-)03:29
ajmitchhaha03:30
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ajmitchLaserJock, addicted to gcc03:30
bluepixelLaserJock, same here .. i wasted also much time in running gcc..03:31
LaserJockbut at least with Ubuntu I get my "fixes" faster. I just hated it when I just got done compiling KDE or gnome and then a new release came out03:31
TheMusohahahahaha03:32
bluepixellol03:32
TheMusoI have only played with gentoo on and off, but never really got into it. Build time was a factor for sure.03:32
bluepixelyou really need a cluster farm to be faster than the releases :D03:32
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TheMusoI also used to be a Slackware user, but once I found Ubuntu just worked for all my hardware, I jumped straight away.03:33
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LaserJockSlackware is about the only major distro I haven't ever tried03:33
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TheMusoLooks like a new GTK has come through the builds.03:33
bluepixeli had problems getting the Xserver running after upgrade to dapper, but i know what to do... so i mean, it was also no problem here.03:34
TheMusoSlackware had just about everything I needed, but it was the time consuming configuration, and having to grab packages to build for laptop functionality, like proper frequency scaling, etc.03:34
TheMusoI like slackware otherwise.03:34
LaserJockTheMuso: ok, qgis fixed now03:35
TheMusoRight.03:35
TheMusoWhat are you going to do re all the patches in the diff?03:35
LaserJockwell, I just reverted the diffs, so basically the diff.gz is smaller now03:36
TheMusoRight.03:36
TheMusoWas that all it was fixing?03:36
LaserJockI'm not sure why the Debian maintainer did that03:36
LaserJockyes03:36
TheMusoRight.03:36
LaserJockhe must have wanted to install the docs to /usr/share/doc/qgis03:37
TheMusoYeah.03:37
LaserJockajmitch: could I get you too look at a debdiff for me real quick03:37
ajmitch_maybe03:38
ajmitch_an informed opinion may be a little harder to come by03:38
LaserJockajmitch_: tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/qgis.debidff03:40
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LaserJockbasically, the Debian maintainer changed the Makefile.{am,in} to change the doc install path from /usr/share/qgis/doc/ to /usr/share/doc/qgis/03:41
LaserJockbut the doc path is hard coded (at least /share/qgis/doc/) in the app so it couldn't find the help file03:41
ajmitch_ok03:41
ajmitch_so what change did you make?03:41
LaserJockall I did was *not* change the Makefile.{am,in} files to change the install path03:42
LaserJockthe only changes in the files was for the doc path03:42
ajmitch_LaserJock: and what do you want me to do?03:43
LaserJockajmitch_: well, I was going to make this my first upload so I wanted to make sure03:43
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LaserJockajmitch_: I'm still a little nervous about screwing up the repo, especially after poor doko's experience today03:44
LaserJockajmitch_: fine, as long as it doesn't sound insane03:44
ajmitch_spelling things right in the changelog is a good first step03:44
TheMusohahaha03:45
ajmitch_I'd rather the fix be to the app, making it use /usr/share/doc/qgis03:45
LaserJockajmitch_: I agree, although I saw an upstream bug where the actually changed it to this path03:46
LaserJockajmitch_: so I don't know if they would change it back03:46
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LaserJockDo you think it would be worth letting go an getting Debian to change it for Dapper+103:47
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ajmitch_;)03:47
LaserJockvery helpful03:47
ajmitch_of course I am03:48
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LaserJockhmm, I've gotta go but I'll think about it. I'd like to fix the bug, but I don't want to keep the delta to a minimum03:51
dholbachnight guys03:59
bmontybye dholbach04:00
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herziis revu "apt-get source"-able?06:14
freeflyingherzi: no06:15
hubno06:17
hubsorry about that06:17
trappistHow to get involved in an existing specification?  I've run across one I'm really interested in working on, but I don't see any forum for it.06:24
freeflyingtrappist: which specification06:27
trappistfirewall06:27
freeflyingtrappist: u can contact the author of that spec, and ask him for detail06:28
trappistso a spec doesn't get its own mailing list, or bug report, or any collaborative tool like that?06:29
freeflyingtrappist: u can subscribe to the spec on launchpad06:30
trappistyeah did that06:30
trappistso if I want to help with implementation, I should contact the spec author, or the guy it's assigned to?06:30
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freeflyingtrappist: ya06:31
trappistI mean to ask which one06:32
freeflyingtrappist: the author or the one assigned to06:32
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trappistok thanks06:38
ajmitch_trappist: the firewall spec is one that has been bountied & is mostly done but not ready for dapper06:38
trappistajmitch_: yeah I saw the bounty.  unless it's done-with-a-capital-d as we say at work, I'd still like to get involved06:38
ajmitch_check the dapper development roadmap that gets sent out to the mailing list06:39
trappistthe motu list or the devel list?  I don't recall seeing that.06:39
ajmitch_devel list06:40
ajmitch_might be devel-announce06:40
trappistoh I'm not subscribed to that one.06:40
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siretartmorning08:13
freeflyingsiretart: hi08:14
ajmitch_hey siretart08:17
ajmitch_how are you?08:17
siretarthuhu freeflying, hi ajmitch_08:18
siretartajmitch_: thanks fine. It is currently about 8am here, and I'm already awake08:18
siretartso I'm reading mails and stuff08:18
ajmitch_great :)08:19
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siretartjust got an email about NM maintainers asking for integration for AP_SCAN to wpasupplicant, so that NM can have wpa support08:19
marcin`hi MOTUs08:19
ajmitch_nice08:19
siretartthis is great news, imo. perhaps (but only perhaps, since we are after FF), we can get that work to dapper08:20
ajmitch_hello marcin`08:20
siretartat least it should be possible to provide updated packages08:20
marcin`could someone tell me if is this possible with debian/${PACKAGE}.install to exclude some files from installation?08:20
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marcin`for example in debian/${PACKAGE}.install i got:08:20
marcin`*.el /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/package08:21
marcin`but I would like to install all *.el file except xxx.el08:21
siretartmarcin`: delete if afterwards ;)08:21
marcin`is this possible to do this maybe with some regexp?08:21
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marcin`siretart: ehh ok - I thought that you will paste some bash/sed/regexp magic but it's ok :)08:22
siretartmarcin`: try creating your .install file with some 'find(1)' magic08:23
ajmitch_siretart: I'm never a fan of debian/rules modifying too many other files in debian/ :)08:23
ajmitch_though that way would work08:23
ajmitch_and then you might as well not use a .install file08:24
ajmitch_but just do find ... -exec dh_install ...08:24
siretartajmitch_: I didn't say to run it in debian/rules08:24
ajmitch_siretart: true, you didn't :)08:24
siretart:)08:24
ajmitch_ok, I'd better head away for the evening08:26
ajmitch_see you all tomorrow08:26
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marcin`siretart: 'find' magic in *.install doesn't want to work08:41
marcin`siretart: I'll just remove in fules - thanks anyway08:41
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siretartmarcin`: nono, you misunderstood me. I suggested in creating a custom *.install using find to include exactly the files you want08:46
marcin`siretart: aah08:47
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marcin`another thing...09:03
marcin`I reported bug to malone: #5165 and it's assigned to MOTU09:04
marcin`does it mean that some MOTU will take care of this but?09:04
Gloubiboulgayes09:05
marcin`Gloubiboulga: heh ok - another thing is: when...?09:05
Hobbseebug 516509:05
Ubugtumalone bug 5165 in libphp-adodb "libphp-adodb in Breezy has dependency to php5" [Normal,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/516509:05
siretartmarcin`: is this bug breezy only? has it been fixed in dapper?09:06
Gloubiboulgamarcin`, I can't tell...09:06
marcin`siretart: I use dapper and no this bug is still here09:06
marcin`siretart: and in fact I'm not sure about breezy09:06
marcin`siretart: in breezy it could be ok09:07
marcin`siretart: I don't know when maintainer removed dependency to php409:07
siretartmarcin`: what about suphp?09:09
siretartno. php4 seems sufficient09:09
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marcin`siretart: I think that change from php5 to php4 | php5 in dependencies should be ok09:10
siretartmarcin`: I have to leave now. You might have better chances if you assign it to motureviewers09:10
siretartelse keep on bugging motus in this channel to get your upload sponsored09:11
marcin`siretart: how?09:11
Hobbseeisnt it just uploading a debdiff to fix it?  and then poking someone?09:11
siretart(when I began contributing, I had a directory on my webserver called 'upload-queue', where I collected my uploads for batch processing by some motu)09:11
marcin`so I should fix this package, create debdiff and upload to malone?09:12
siretartsounds easy reviewable. yes09:12
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marcin`heh and what about new version? adodb in this package is old09:13
marcin`there is already new version in upstream09:13
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siretartmarcin`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/UVFStatus09:13
marcin`siretart: ok09:14
marcin`siretart: thanks09:14
marcin`yet another question09:18
marcin`is there any naming convention for cvs snapshot packages?09:18
Hobbsee*thiknks*09:19
marcin`like: 1.0.0-cvs20060301-0ubuntu1 ?09:19
Hobbseeyeah, there is, trying to remember what it is...09:19
Hobbseemarcin`: kradio_0.1beta1.0snapshot20051204 or similar09:19
Hobbseeshouldnt be 1.0, as the 1.0 release of the package will need to replace the cvs version of it09:20
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dholbachgood morning09:31
Hobbseemorning dholbach!09:31
dholbachhey Hobbsee!09:32
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netzmeistergood morning dholbach09:39
dholbachhey netzmeister09:39
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TheMusoHey dholbach.10:03
TheMusoFeeling refreshed?10:03
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dholbachTheMuso: I'm getting there10:04
dholbachTheMuso: it was around 5h of sleep10:05
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TheMusoAh right.10:07
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Tonio_hello10:32
Gloubiboulgahi Tonio_10:33
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zakameevening MOTUs01:56
freeflyingzakame: hey02:01
zakamehello freeflying02:02
freeflyinglooking for review02:11
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freeflyingTonio_: ping02:32
Tonio_freeflying: gonna review it ;)02:33
freeflyingthx02:34
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YagisanG'day all03:35
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marcin`heh some bastard screwed up gksu and gdm package :(04:40
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dholbachmarcin`: "<marcin`> heh some bastard screwed up gksu and gdm package :("05:07
dholbachmarcin`: tame your tongue05:08
netzmeister:-/05:11
marcin`dholbach: sorry 1. wrong channel, 2. it was bug in gdm not in gksu - I'll file bug report in malone soon05:11
dholbachmarcin`: no matter where you said that - it's as imappropriate as can be and you're not respecting the Code of Conduct at any rate05:11
dholbachmarcin`: there's enough ranting around at the moment - don't forget there are *people* working on packages05:12
dholbachmarcin`: and if you can't cope with momentary breakages, then please use the stable branch of the distro, thanks.05:12
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G0SUBdholbach ++05:21
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netzmeisterhm since the last dapper update my linux doesn't boot..06:53
netzmeistergrub doesn't find the partitions..06:53
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nomedhi all06:54
netzmeisterwhen i edit the grub lines manualy he finds the kernel but not the root filesystem..06:54
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netzmeisterhi nomed06:55
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Gloubiboulgaevening nomed :)07:06
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netzmeisterhttp://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/310/07:58
netzmeisterthe output from lintian..07:58
netzmeisterthats not nice.. :-(07:58
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phanatichi people08:17
dolsonhi ph08:17
dolsonphanatic even08:17
dolsonlol08:17
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phanaticre dolson :)08:17
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netzmeisterhttp://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/310/10:13
netzmeisterhelp.. :(10:13
dholbachnetzmeister: it might help if you ask specific questions10:14
dholbachand people didn't have to look up a page and guess what you want them to help you with :)10:14
netzmeister:/10:14
netzmeistersry..10:14
dholbachDon' worry. :-)10:15
netzmeisterthe lintian test failed..10:15
dholbachyeah, obviously10:15
dholbachyou have a bunch of stuff to fix :)10:15
netzmeister:( i know.. but i don't know how?10:15
slomonetzmeister: uh... ok, you can ignore the first one, for the second one don't install COPYING... the third one is bad as there already is another package with that library afaik, needs to be solved... and when that's solved we fix the others ;)10:15
netzmeisterfor example..10:15
netzmeisterokay, i'll be back in a few minutes ... i play "bug hunter".. rofl10:17
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netzmeister"W: codeblocks: non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libwxscintilla.so.0.0.1 usr/lib/libwxscintilla.so"10:21
netzmeisterwhat does this mean?10:21
netzmeistercan you give me a tip10:21
raphinksome files go to the 0-dev package, some go to the 0 one10:22
slomonetzmeister: first of all be sure that no other package ships this files... i remember seeing this files somewhere else already10:23
raphinkhmm yes unless this lib is only used by one package, huhu :$10:24
netzmeisterhm10:24
dholbachGood Night guys!10:26
netzmeisternight dholbach10:27
phanaticgoodnite dholbach10:27
marcin`hi all10:28
netzmeisterhi marcin`10:28
marcin`could someone avise me what to do if I would like to propose new naming convention for emacs packages?10:28
marcin`I already uploaded few packages to REVU - unfortunately only one was reviewed10:29
marcin`but on this first MOTU's complained about name - that I changed from already existing package in universe10:30
marcin`so I would like to propose a general change10:30
marcin`question - how and where?10:30
zygamarcin`: what is the current naming scheme?10:32
marcin`zyga: well propably there is no naming scheme10:32
marcin`zyga: packages has original names10:33
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marcin`zyga: so sometimes you got: flim, apel, bbdb, nxml-mode10:33
marcin`zyga: and sometimes you got: emacs-color-themes, emacs-wiki10:34
marcin`zyga: I would like to propose general change to emacs-[original_name] 10:34
phanaticmarcin`: maybe you should propose to debian devels first?10:35
zygamarcin`: sounds quite reasonable10:35
marcin`phanatic: mailing list or is there irc channel?10:36
phanatici think the debian-devel list would reach more people than irc10:36
marcin`ok then I'll try to do this10:37
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netzmeisterslomo:  http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/314/10:56
netzmeisterit is a little bit better..10:56
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netzmeisterwhiprush: codeblocks: extra-license-file usr/share/doc/codeblocks/COPYING.gz11:04
netzmeisterwhen i delete the COPYRIGHT file another error occours..11:05
netzmeister:(11:05
netzmeistersry not COPYRIGHT.. i mean COPYING11:05
hubjust that it gets installed by make install11:07
ajmitchmorning11:07
phanatichi ajmitch11:07
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netzmeisterhub:  you talk to me?11:10
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hubnetzmeister: yeah11:12
Amaranthyeah, make install needs to not install the COPYING.gz fle11:12
netzmeisterhmm i build a package11:13
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netzmeister"non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink"11:47
netzmeisterhmm11:47
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