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shannaraanyone : )12:09
Burgworkshannara, sorry, I have no idea. I would suggest the edubuntu mailing list12:30
shannarado you have a link for that?12:32
Burgworkhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel12:32
shannarathanks12:40
Burgworkshannara, np12:40
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trev0rogra_: I haven't had a chance to try booting a thin client yet, but the server runs great12:43
trev0rI got internet working.  It does take about 1 minute to load firefox, but once it loads the program runs awesome.  Pages scroll like it was a 3ghz machine12:44
trev0rAnd these are pentium 1 386 (or maybe 366)mhz machines12:44
trev0rWith 64 mb of ram12:50
shannaraHas anyone succesfully installed ltsp on Kubuntu flight 412:53
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Burgundaviahighvoltage: do the freedom toasters have tray or slot load cdrws?03:31
wastrelwhat's a freedom toaster?03:32
Burgundaviahttp://www.freedomtoaster.org/03:33
wastrelinteresting03:34
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mikebotif anyone here has used windows, i am looking for a menu editor which would allow me to add my own menu to the panel, and then allow me to add folders to it which expand rightward when highlighted (like the debian folder in ubuntu); if anyone knows of such a tool could they please let me know? thanks05:04
AdalwulfThe Applications Menu Editor?05:05
mikebotAdalwulf, i'm not sure05:05
mikebotAdalwulf, like, i want to be able to add my own menu, like the Applications menu05:06
mikebotAdalwulf, but not like a drawer, where it just links, but like folders05:06
Burgundaviamikebot: all the menus are defined in flat files05:06
Burgundaviamikebot: you can create your own and then edit the panle. Not easy05:06
mikebotBurgundavia, is there a program which makes it easy?05:07
Burgundaviamikebot: not that I know of05:08
mikebotBurgundavia, okay, thanks05:08
mikebotBurgundavia, do you know if theya re working on one?05:08
mikebotBurgundavia, it seems rather useful to me05:08
AdalwulfRight click on panel>add to panel> add menu05:09
AdalwulfThen.....05:09
AdalwulfRight click on menu>Edit Menus05:09
mikebotAdalwulf, that's just a new ubuntu menu though05:09
Burgundaviahmm, that might work05:09
mikebotno, cause you can;t remove Places or System05:10
mikebotand any change made to this menu will occur on the other as well05:10
Burgundaviayou can replace the three menus with one05:12
mikebotBurgundavia, yeah, but i'm looking to create my own independent one05:13
mikebotBurgundavia, like a folder called projects, then in it are folders titled by years, etc.05:13
Burgundaviawill need to be manually hacked05:13
mikebotheh okay05:13
Burgundaviasorry I cannot be of help05:14
mikebotBurgundavia, no worries05:14
mikebotthanks anyway05:14
mikebotnight05:14
AdalwulfAdd main menu doesn't have places or system05:18
AdalwulfNever mind, yes it does05:20
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shannarahas anyone got cups working on flight 4?05:46
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highvoltageBurgundavia: tray loaders06:58
Burgundaviahighvoltage: do they break?06:59
highvoltageBurgundavia: the toasters? sometimes. the tray loaders? none have broken yet (yes, it's a miracle)07:00
highvoltageBurgundavia: jason does want to get tray loaders, but they are rare in south africa, i think he's going to import them for the next batch07:01
Burgundaviahighvoltage: I went looking for them tonight. They are pretty rare in general07:01
Burgundaviahighvoltage: have you guys considered selling cds right there? does taking money invite theft?07:02
highvoltageBurgundavia: at one of our freedomtoasters we have a vending machine that contains cd's, so you pop in a R5 coin, and it will dispense a CD.07:06
highvoltageBurgundavia: it's a very secure location, so there hasn't been a case of theft yet, although that idea wouldn't work in all areas07:06
BurgundaviaI wonder if a Freedom Toaster is even worth it in Canada07:08
DupliwolfBandwidth is cheap in Canada isn't it?07:11
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jsgotangcois the system for the toaster free?07:34
jsgotangcoi mean the software aside from the usual OS and stuff07:34
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corey_jsgotangco: I believe so07:45
highvoltagejsgotangco: yep07:48
corey_highvoltage: do you just have an iso we can use? Is the software packaged and in Ubuntu?07:49
highvoltagecorey_: no, it's not packaged yet. Some local people are working on a new version, i htink it's just about done. i'll go ask jason just now where i can get the latest version and get it to you.07:50
highvoltagecorey_: so far, it hasn't really been released yet, although it is intended to be free software07:50
jsgotangcoahhh07:51
corey_highvoltage: I can't do anything with it. But bug a MOTU07:52
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chellHi02:23
chellI'm a pupil (German school year 9 (4 years to go)), is edubuntu the right flavour of Ubuntu/Linux for me? 02:24
highvoltagechell: most probably02:25
highvoltagechell: edubuntu comes with the same packages as ubuntu, and you also have the universe available that gives you the entire debian and more.02:25
juliuxchell, which school? and in hamburg?02:26
chellnot in Hamburg no02:26
chellclose though02:26
juliuxchell, sorry think so because you have a hansenet dsl connection02:26
chellSo I don't have to enable any repositories etc. when I use edubuntu?02:26
highvoltagechell: yes02:27
chellThat's cool02:27
chellbecause when you choose Ubuntu you have to02:27
juliuxchell, i make a talk about edubuntu and ubuntu at the 19.3.200602:27
juliuxchell, in hamburg02:27
chellwhere?02:27
juliuxchell, www.hhlug.de02:27
juliuxchell, but i also can get to your school and can show edubuntu with thinclients there02:28
juliuxs/get/come02:28
highvoltage:)02:28
chellMy ICT teacher is a windows guy...02:29
chellHe doesn't like linux02:29
juliuxchell, no problem02:29
chellIs the talk going to be recorded?02:29
juliuxchell, where is your school?02:29
chellElmshorn02:29
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chellmaybe you know where that is?02:30
juliuxchell, ah ok that isnt so far away from hamburg only 30min by train02:30
chellyes I know02:30
juliuxchell, if you want i can do in the week of the 20th march a presentation in your school02:30
chellwell, I am not sure if that's such a good idea02:31
chellas I said02:31
chellmy ICT teacher is also head of the ICT branch02:31
juliuxchell, it is a chance02:31
juliux;)02:31
chellwell02:32
juliuxchell, in my old school are also linux pcs and at the begining there was only windows02:32
juliuxchell, it is a hard way but why not02:32
chellwe also have linux on some pcs02:32
chell2 or 3 I believe02:33
chellbut it is never booted02:33
juliuxnot very good02:33
chellno 02:33
chellyou can try and get into contact with my teacher and ask him if he would let you talk to pupils during "informatik" lessons02:34
chellI already had to present linux to them once02:34
juliuxif you come to the hhlug meeting i will give you a edubuntu dvdbox and some flyers about ubuntu and ubuntu cds so you can distribute them on your school02:34
chellwhen exactly is you talk again?02:34
juliux19.3.200602:34
chellA mate is coming to visit me that day (probably)02:35
chellI can ask him02:35
chellif he wants to go02:35
juliuxlinux is more then one mate ;)02:35
chellI've just sent him an email02:36
juliuxok02:36
juliuxcan you give me the e-mail address from your teacher?02:37
juliuxsend it to juliux@ubuntu-de.org02:37
chellI'm not sure if I have it02:37
chellthe one I've got seems old02:38
chellbut I can give you the school's email adress02:38
chell*address02:38
chellYou can ask for Mr Kracht02:38
chellpost@kgse.de02:38
chellthat's the school's address02:38
juliuxok thxs02:38
juliuxi will write an e-mail02:38
chellokay02:39
chellbut you haven't got it from me ;-)02:39
juliuxokay02:39
chellwhat exactly would you do at the school02:40
chell?02:41
juliuxi want to show how to use a server with thinclients02:43
chellWell, they are "noobs"02:43
juliuxwhat edubuntu is02:43
chellmost of them anyway02:43
juliuxno problem 02:43
chellI think they should know what linux is02:43
chelland then edubuntu02:43
juliuxi am often on fairs and linuxtdays 02:43
chellyes02:43
juliuxso i now how to tell it noobs02:44
chellwhat did you write the school?02:44
juliuxat the moment nothing02:44
chellso what are you planning to write?02:44
juliuxbecause i will travel to chemnitzer linuxdays in a few hours02:44
juliuxi dont exactly know02:45
juliuxi will write it next week on the cebit02:45
chellyou're going? I was there last year02:45
juliuxi do the ubuntu booth on the cebit02:45
juliuxalso a the chemnitzer linuxdays02:45
juliuxsee http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Messen/2006/02:46
chellhow big is the ubuntu booth going to be?02:46
juliux6qm02:46
juliuxin hall 5 stand F67/802:46
chellwould be really great if you could come and talk to pupils during informatik lessons02:47
juliuxno problem02:47
juliuxi will try it02:47
juliuxsorry i have to go02:47
juliuxcu02:47
chellcu02:49
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paolobHi guys. I want to change the applications menu for all users, http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/ says me to do "http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/", but it doesn't work in breezy. How do I do it? thank you!05:26
shannaraCan anyone tell me if the is a chat server for dapper05:28
paolobHi guys! How do I modify the gnome menu for all users? thank you!05:28
jsgotangcopaolob, i think you can do that stuff in gconf05:37
paolobjsgotangco, doesn't the nautilus applications-all-users:/// work any more? 05:38
jsgotangcoi believe its still possible to revert previous gnome/nautilus behaviors in gconf05:39
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moonbeamhello06:45
moonbeamAny known issues with joliet CD as 5.10 ?06:45
moonbeams/as/and06:45
moonbeamthey mount but directory listings are empty.06:46
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neurogeek.seen mhz07:07
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Nomad411Hi all..  I'm looking at setting up a machine for a 10 year-old, and I was wondering if edubuntu comes with tools like net-nany or such things, my buddy is worried about his son vs. the Internet.07:37
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tsurcjust tried edubuntu and got an error on "build LTSP chroot". I'm using the 20060303 image.08:01
tsurcalt-f3 gives something to do with ldm has no ???? or if referenced by another name. Any ideas anyone?08:02
ograthe iso is oversized ...08:03
ogramost likely its broken 08:03
tsurcmd5sum ok08:03
ograyes08:03
ograbut if it overflows the cd builder starts a second iso ... so there might be missing packages08:04
ograwhich means it cant install 08:04
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tsurcMemory's sketchy. But i recall reading something, somewhere about burning 7speed. Any one confirm that?08:06
tsurcI'll give it a go, and see if it works anyway.08:07
ograjust do the CD selftest 08:07
ograif thats fine , the write speed was ok as well 08:08
ograbut generally you should write bootable CDs not faster than 8x08:08
tsurcyou learn something new everyday ;-)08:15
tsurcI'll try that monday morn when i get into work08:18
ograin any case the flight4 CD is tested to work ... i cant tell about the dailies ...08:21
ograhavent tested since a week ...08:21
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sorush20hi guys09:28
sorush20just wanted to know if there is something like spss in edubuntu? 09:29
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sorush20its a statistical analysis package09:30
sorush20I thought since its to do with eduction edubuntu should have something similar.. but there is pspp, which is underdevelopment.. 09:30
sorush20something like Minitab09:30
DupliwolfI'm an edubuntu noob, so I'm not sure if there is one or not, but I've not heard of one.09:32
DupliwolfThere is a packages list somewhere, lemme find it.09:32
sorush20Dupliwolf: don't worry thanks.. I think the packages and repositories are the same 09:34
DupliwolfSorry I couldn09:36
Dupliwolft help09:36
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chellHi09:55
chellI've just installed edubuntu and updated it09:55
chellThen I wanted to use that schooltool thing. Which login data do I have to use for that?09:56
chell?10:00
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plastiquechell> I don't anymore but there's a simple guide to do this10:13
plastique..don't know..10:13
plastiquei still don't know why there's a chance to run it in CLI - it ends with an error in script10:15
plastiqueit have to be run from within a browser10:15
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shannaraogra: are you on?10:43
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