[12:09] <shannara> anyone : )
[12:30] <Burgwork> shannara, sorry, I have no idea. I would suggest the edubuntu mailing list
[12:32] <shannara> do you have a link for that?
[12:32] <Burgwork> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel
[12:40] <shannara> thanks
[12:40] <Burgwork> shannara, np
[12:43] <trev0r> ogra_: I haven't had a chance to try booting a thin client yet, but the server runs great
[12:44] <trev0r> I got internet working.  It does take about 1 minute to load firefox, but once it loads the program runs awesome.  Pages scroll like it was a 3ghz machine
[12:44] <trev0r> And these are pentium 1 386 (or maybe 366)mhz machines
[12:50] <trev0r> With 64 mb of ram
[12:53] <shannara> Has anyone succesfully installed ltsp on Kubuntu flight 4
[03:31] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: do the freedom toasters have tray or slot load cdrws?
[03:32] <wastrel> what's a freedom toaster?
[03:33] <Burgundavia> http://www.freedomtoaster.org/
[03:34] <wastrel> interesting
[05:04] <mikebot> if anyone here has used windows, i am looking for a menu editor which would allow me to add my own menu to the panel, and then allow me to add folders to it which expand rightward when highlighted (like the debian folder in ubuntu); if anyone knows of such a tool could they please let me know? thanks
[05:05] <Adalwulf> The Applications Menu Editor?
[05:05] <mikebot> Adalwulf, i'm not sure
[05:06] <mikebot> Adalwulf, like, i want to be able to add my own menu, like the Applications menu
[05:06] <mikebot> Adalwulf, but not like a drawer, where it just links, but like folders
[05:06] <Burgundavia> mikebot: all the menus are defined in flat files
[05:06] <Burgundavia> mikebot: you can create your own and then edit the panle. Not easy
[05:07] <mikebot> Burgundavia, is there a program which makes it easy?
[05:08] <Burgundavia> mikebot: not that I know of
[05:08] <mikebot> Burgundavia, okay, thanks
[05:08] <mikebot> Burgundavia, do you know if theya re working on one?
[05:08] <mikebot> Burgundavia, it seems rather useful to me
[05:09] <Adalwulf> Right click on panel>add to panel> add menu
[05:09] <Adalwulf> Then.....
[05:09] <Adalwulf> Right click on menu>Edit Menus
[05:09] <mikebot> Adalwulf, that's just a new ubuntu menu though
[05:09] <Burgundavia> hmm, that might work
[05:10] <mikebot> no, cause you can;t remove Places or System
[05:10] <mikebot> and any change made to this menu will occur on the other as well
[05:12] <Burgundavia> you can replace the three menus with one
[05:13] <mikebot> Burgundavia, yeah, but i'm looking to create my own independent one
[05:13] <mikebot> Burgundavia, like a folder called projects, then in it are folders titled by years, etc.
[05:13] <Burgundavia> will need to be manually hacked
[05:13] <mikebot> heh okay
[05:14] <Burgundavia> sorry I cannot be of help
[05:14] <mikebot> Burgundavia, no worries
[05:14] <mikebot> thanks anyway
[05:14] <mikebot> night
[05:18] <Adalwulf> Add main menu doesn't have places or system
[05:20] <Adalwulf> Never mind, yes it does
[05:46] <shannara> has anyone got cups working on flight 4?
[06:58] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: tray loaders
[06:59] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: do they break?
[07:00] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: the toasters? sometimes. the tray loaders? none have broken yet (yes, it's a miracle)
[07:01] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: jason does want to get tray loaders, but they are rare in south africa, i think he's going to import them for the next batch
[07:01] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: I went looking for them tonight. They are pretty rare in general
[07:02] <Burgundavia> highvoltage: have you guys considered selling cds right there? does taking money invite theft?
[07:06] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: at one of our freedomtoasters we have a vending machine that contains cd's, so you pop in a R5 coin, and it will dispense a CD.
[07:06] <highvoltage> Burgundavia: it's a very secure location, so there hasn't been a case of theft yet, although that idea wouldn't work in all areas
[07:08] <Burgundavia> I wonder if a Freedom Toaster is even worth it in Canada
[07:11] <Dupliwolf> Bandwidth is cheap in Canada isn't it?
[07:34] <jsgotangco> is the system for the toaster free?
[07:34] <jsgotangco> i mean the software aside from the usual OS and stuff
[07:45] <corey_> jsgotangco: I believe so
[07:48] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: yep
[07:49] <corey_> highvoltage: do you just have an iso we can use? Is the software packaged and in Ubuntu?
[07:50] <highvoltage> corey_: no, it's not packaged yet. Some local people are working on a new version, i htink it's just about done. i'll go ask jason just now where i can get the latest version and get it to you.
[07:50] <highvoltage> corey_: so far, it hasn't really been released yet, although it is intended to be free software
[07:51] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[07:52] <corey_> highvoltage: I can't do anything with it. But bug a MOTU
[02:23] <chell> Hi
[02:24] <chell> I'm a pupil (German school year 9 (4 years to go)), is edubuntu the right flavour of Ubuntu/Linux for me? 
[02:25] <highvoltage> chell: most probably
[02:25] <highvoltage> chell: edubuntu comes with the same packages as ubuntu, and you also have the universe available that gives you the entire debian and more.
[02:26] <juliux> chell, which school? and in hamburg?
[02:26] <chell> not in Hamburg no
[02:26] <chell> close though
[02:26] <juliux> chell, sorry think so because you have a hansenet dsl connection
[02:26] <chell> So I don't have to enable any repositories etc. when I use edubuntu?
[02:27] <highvoltage> chell: yes
[02:27] <chell> That's cool
[02:27] <chell> because when you choose Ubuntu you have to
[02:27] <juliux> chell, i make a talk about edubuntu and ubuntu at the 19.3.2006
[02:27] <juliux> chell, in hamburg
[02:27] <chell> where?
[02:27] <juliux> chell, www.hhlug.de
[02:28] <juliux> chell, but i also can get to your school and can show edubuntu with thinclients there
[02:28] <juliux> s/get/come
[02:28] <highvoltage> :)
[02:29] <chell> My ICT teacher is a windows guy...
[02:29] <chell> He doesn't like linux
[02:29] <juliux> chell, no problem
[02:29] <chell> Is the talk going to be recorded?
[02:29] <juliux> chell, where is your school?
[02:29] <chell> Elmshorn
[02:30] <chell> maybe you know where that is?
[02:30] <juliux> chell, ah ok that isnt so far away from hamburg only 30min by train
[02:30] <chell> yes I know
[02:30] <juliux> chell, if you want i can do in the week of the 20th march a presentation in your school
[02:31] <chell> well, I am not sure if that's such a good idea
[02:31] <chell> as I said
[02:31] <chell> my ICT teacher is also head of the ICT branch
[02:31] <juliux> chell, it is a chance
[02:31] <juliux> ;)
[02:32] <chell> well
[02:32] <juliux> chell, in my old school are also linux pcs and at the begining there was only windows
[02:32] <juliux> chell, it is a hard way but why not
[02:32] <chell> we also have linux on some pcs
[02:33] <chell> 2 or 3 I believe
[02:33] <chell> but it is never booted
[02:33] <juliux> not very good
[02:33] <chell> no 
[02:34] <chell> you can try and get into contact with my teacher and ask him if he would let you talk to pupils during "informatik" lessons
[02:34] <chell> I already had to present linux to them once
[02:34] <juliux> if you come to the hhlug meeting i will give you a edubuntu dvdbox and some flyers about ubuntu and ubuntu cds so you can distribute them on your school
[02:34] <chell> when exactly is you talk again?
[02:34] <juliux> 19.3.2006
[02:35] <chell> A mate is coming to visit me that day (probably)
[02:35] <chell> I can ask him
[02:35] <chell> if he wants to go
[02:35] <juliux> linux is more then one mate ;)
[02:36] <chell> I've just sent him an email
[02:36] <juliux> ok
[02:37] <juliux> can you give me the e-mail address from your teacher?
[02:37] <juliux> send it to juliux@ubuntu-de.org
[02:37] <chell> I'm not sure if I have it
[02:38] <chell> the one I've got seems old
[02:38] <chell> but I can give you the school's email adress
[02:38] <chell> *address
[02:38] <chell> You can ask for Mr Kracht
[02:38] <chell> post@kgse.de
[02:38] <chell> that's the school's address
[02:38] <juliux> ok thxs
[02:38] <juliux> i will write an e-mail
[02:39] <chell> okay
[02:39] <chell> but you haven't got it from me ;-)
[02:39] <juliux> okay
[02:40] <chell> what exactly would you do at the school
[02:41] <chell> ?
[02:43] <juliux> i want to show how to use a server with thinclients
[02:43] <chell> Well, they are "noobs"
[02:43] <juliux> what edubuntu is
[02:43] <chell> most of them anyway
[02:43] <juliux> no problem 
[02:43] <chell> I think they should know what linux is
[02:43] <chell> and then edubuntu
[02:43] <juliux> i am often on fairs and linuxtdays 
[02:43] <chell> yes
[02:44] <juliux> so i now how to tell it noobs
[02:44] <chell> what did you write the school?
[02:44] <juliux> at the moment nothing
[02:44] <chell> so what are you planning to write?
[02:44] <juliux> because i will travel to chemnitzer linuxdays in a few hours
[02:45] <juliux> i dont exactly know
[02:45] <juliux> i will write it next week on the cebit
[02:45] <chell> you're going? I was there last year
[02:45] <juliux> i do the ubuntu booth on the cebit
[02:45] <juliux> also a the chemnitzer linuxdays
[02:46] <juliux> see http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Messen/2006/
[02:46] <chell> how big is the ubuntu booth going to be?
[02:46] <juliux> 6qm
[02:46] <juliux> in hall 5 stand F67/8
[02:47] <chell> would be really great if you could come and talk to pupils during informatik lessons
[02:47] <juliux> no problem
[02:47] <juliux> i will try it
[02:47] <juliux> sorry i have to go
[02:47] <juliux> cu
[02:49] <chell> cu
[05:26] <paolob> Hi guys. I want to change the applications menu for all users, http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/ says me to do "http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/", but it doesn't work in breezy. How do I do it? thank you!
[05:28] <shannara> Can anyone tell me if the is a chat server for dapper
[05:28] <paolob> Hi guys! How do I modify the gnome menu for all users? thank you!
[05:37] <jsgotangco> paolob, i think you can do that stuff in gconf
[05:38] <paolob> jsgotangco, doesn't the nautilus applications-all-users:/// work any more? 
[05:39] <jsgotangco> i believe its still possible to revert previous gnome/nautilus behaviors in gconf
[06:45] <moonbeam> hello
[06:45] <moonbeam> Any known issues with joliet CD as 5.10 ?
[06:45] <moonbeam> s/as/and
[06:46] <moonbeam> they mount but directory listings are empty.
[07:07] <neurogeek> .seen mhz
[07:37] <Nomad411> Hi all..  I'm looking at setting up a machine for a 10 year-old, and I was wondering if edubuntu comes with tools like net-nany or such things, my buddy is worried about his son vs. the Internet.
[08:01] <tsurc> just tried edubuntu and got an error on "build LTSP chroot". I'm using the 20060303 image.
[08:02] <tsurc> alt-f3 gives something to do with ldm has no ???? or if referenced by another name. Any ideas anyone?
[08:03] <ogra> the iso is oversized ...
[08:03] <ogra> most likely its broken 
[08:03] <tsurc> md5sum ok
[08:03] <ogra> yes
[08:04] <ogra> but if it overflows the cd builder starts a second iso ... so there might be missing packages
[08:04] <ogra> which means it cant install 
[08:06] <tsurc> Memory's sketchy. But i recall reading something, somewhere about burning 7speed. Any one confirm that?
[08:07] <tsurc> I'll give it a go, and see if it works anyway.
[08:07] <ogra> just do the CD selftest 
[08:08] <ogra> if thats fine , the write speed was ok as well 
[08:08] <ogra> but generally you should write bootable CDs not faster than 8x
[08:15] <tsurc> you learn something new everyday ;-)
[08:18] <tsurc> I'll try that monday morn when i get into work
[08:21] <ogra> in any case the flight4 CD is tested to work ... i cant tell about the dailies ...
[08:21] <ogra> havent tested since a week ...
[09:28] <sorush20> hi guys
[09:29] <sorush20> just wanted to know if there is something like spss in edubuntu? 
[09:30] <sorush20> its a statistical analysis package
[09:30] <sorush20> I thought since its to do with eduction edubuntu should have something similar.. but there is pspp, which is underdevelopment.. 
[09:30] <sorush20> something like Minitab
[09:32] <Dupliwolf> I'm an edubuntu noob, so I'm not sure if there is one or not, but I've not heard of one.
[09:32] <Dupliwolf> There is a packages list somewhere, lemme find it.
[09:34] <sorush20> Dupliwolf: don't worry thanks.. I think the packages and repositories are the same 
[09:36] <Dupliwolf> Sorry I couldn
[09:36] <Dupliwolf> t help
[09:55] <chell> Hi
[09:55] <chell> I've just installed edubuntu and updated it
[09:56] <chell> Then I wanted to use that schooltool thing. Which login data do I have to use for that?
[10:00] <chell> ?
[10:13] <plastique> chell> I don't anymore but there's a simple guide to do this
[10:13] <plastique> ..don't know..
[10:15] <plastique> i still don't know why there's a chance to run it in CLI - it ends with an error in script
[10:15] <plastique> it have to be run from within a browser
[10:43] <shannara> ogra: are you on?