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andyprewell, constantly writing printf when i meant print ...12:03
leafwxD12:03
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andypremakes you search an eternity for the problem in a command file using print instead of printf. hail to lauterbach ...12:04
leafwI type p( ...) and then use a vim %s/\tp(/\tprintf(/g12:04
stezhi all12:05
leafwbut that's just my way, others use word completion (which I never liked), I gues12:05
andypreFor the risk of a kickban: Using Visual Studio 2005 with Visual Assist X in the office, it'll expand automagically :-)12:05
stezanyone there who could help me with a firefox-related problem?12:05
leafwwhy a kickban, no idiots here12:05
andypreACK12:06
andypreAs we already switched to KDE ;-)12:06
leafwemacs or vim or even eclispe can do the same for you if you set up modes and macros appropriately.12:06
leafweven the KDE 'kdevelop' would, and many others I bet12:06
koshfor what I do autoexpand does not work and would be more of a hindrance if it tried12:07
andypreWell, yes. Eclipse: nice, greatest CVS frontend ever, but forget the indexer when talking about 15000 files in a project ...12:07
leafwthat is a fat project you're on12:07
leafwI've never worked with more than a few hundred12:07
koshor not very well factored ;)12:07
andyprefat, dumb, ancient and clumsy12:07
leafwnot do I use eclipse, but on passing.12:07
andyprekosh: you got it12:08
koshI have seen many people brag about how large and complex their projects are12:08
koshbut have managed to wipe out 50% of it without losing any functionality12:08
koshmost projects are just not coded anywhere close to efficiently12:09
andypreOnce you got 3 different memcmp(), 2 of them on the same CPU, you really should clean up.12:09
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andypreEsp. if one is signed, the other unsigned. grrrrr12:09
leafwhave you seen school projects? With long lines of documentation, and then lots of vars such as int x, y;\n x = y = 0; x=0; y =0; and if (1) {}, and the like?12:10
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koshI have seen many school projects12:10
leafwyou get a grade for being verbose and redundant.12:10
koshfor the last 5 years I have mostly been coding in python and I have sure enjoyed it12:11
koshI write for maintenance as much as possible12:11
leafwI write to get the job done; my projects are small.12:11
andypreWell, not really the best language for embedded systems :-)12:11
koshso I use good variable names, try to keep functions to 5-10 lines, keep the code well factored etc12:11
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koshah well I don't code for embedded systems12:11
andypreleafw: extreme programming ?12:11
stezokay I start the other way around... I followed a wiki instruction from www.kubuntu.org and now my firefox won't start anymore anyone there who can help me?12:11
koshmy current project is about 15K loc12:12
andyprestez: What instruction ?12:12
koshof very well factored code12:12
stezhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%2912:12
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leafwandypre: extreme programming? coding 2 at a time? I've done it, it's fun. But mostly alone.12:12
leafwI'm in an environment of pure biologists, the computers are for photoshop, Blender and Word.12:13
leafwand ImageJ of course.12:13
andyprestez: Rather long. What does firefox say if started from shell ?12:13
andypreleafw: blender ? 3d-modeling ?12:13
leafwandypre: there are KSystemLogs ...12:13
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stezit won't start as normal user it gives a box saying that FF should be exited first or the computer should be restarted12:14
leafwandypre: right.12:14
stezI can only start it as root12:14
andyprestez: stale lock ?12:14
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stezandypre: what is that?12:14
dyrnestez: assuming killall firefox-bin didnt fix it?12:15
stezdyrne: no I tried that12:15
andypreleafw: Be forgiving to me, compiled kernel by hand the last 10 years ;-)12:15
andyprestez: I meant some kind of lockfile in your homedir12:15
leafwandypre: just mentioning! For some users, launching an app from a terminal is sorcery12:16
andyprestez: Any sensible output in thwe log ?12:16
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andypreleafw: sometimes I miss the good old days (tm) ;-)12:16
leafwandypre: I don't. Installing debian was a pain. Now I don't even run debian anymore ...12:17
stezandypre: theres only one logfile in my home dir... nothing about firefox12:18
andypreleafw: Well, I meant the days where you build it up all by yourself. No distro at all.12:18
leafwandypre: I'm too young for that. Back then I was reading Asimov's Foundation and cycling my neighborhood12:18
leafwand didn't even know computers smaller than Multivac could acomplish anything12:18
andyprestez: tried to move ~/.mozilla/firefox/ out of the way and see if this changes anything ?12:19
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stezandypre: that seems to help... although I'm missing all my preferences, plugins, bookmarks now12:22
andyprestez: of course12:23
leafwstez: you'd better have a backup.12:23
stezI do12:23
andyprestez: now we know it's something in your homedir12:23
leafwgood user!12:23
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stezandypre: yes... maybe a symbolic link or something helps resolving the issue?12:24
stezleafw:12:24
stezthx12:24
andyprestez: either some lock (strace is your friend) or some old setting incompatible to the new firefox12:24
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leafwstez: in firefox you can import bookmarks, do so from your backup folder and voila.12:24
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andyprestez: forget the idea about strace. It's nuts what gets touched there ...12:26
stezandypre: ok thank you very much... I will look into that (man strace :) ) and come back if I cant fix it alone! I really appreciate the tips.12:26
stezleafw: thx for this tip as well :)12:26
leafwyou're welcome.12:26
stezandypre: okay I skip that12:26
alanonwhen my install is finished and X is about to start (i think) the computer halts.. help? Ive tried different disks but anyway it halts when X starts after the install scrips is done after the reboot...12:27
leafwalanon: the computer may not digest the screen properly ... do you have another screen to try on? Also, try to boot in safe mode and read the logs for problems.12:29
andyprestez: unlink("/home/apr/.mozilla/firefox/w1zfvs36.default/lock")12:30
andyprestez: so there is some lock12:30
andyprestez: look in your ff dirs for a file named "lock"12:30
stezandypre: ok ... brb12:31
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alanonleafw i have a dvi monitor and dual nvidia gpu's, I assume this can have a crusial part of my problem, right?12:31
leafwalanon: sounds like it12:31
leafwbrand new hardware needs time, for developers to setup drivers. Read, the companies selling the hardware seldom provide linux drivers.12:32
alanonactually they do.. seems like it would be smart of me to try..12:34
leafwyou're lucky then.12:34
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pulveranyone else having probs with firefox 1.5.0.1, mine draws checkboxes weird, doesn't ask me where to save stuff, download to weird filenames and goes back to history on mouse scroll =/12:35
_usercan anybody help me please?12:35
alanonnvidia is great in linux comp actually :)12:35
leafwpulver: seems like you need to backup and then delete the ~/.mozilla/firefox folder12:35
pulverleafw: you think it will help.. ill try it right away...12:36
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alanonbtw, is there a way to install links or some commandline browser?12:36
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leafwpulver: it's the only part that is different between you and any other user.12:36
wimpiesI have this stupid little bash script I cannot get to work ... (only 10 lines but I get syntax errors ???)12:36
wimpiesAnybody can help ?12:37
leafwalanon: commandline browser ?12:37
leafwa lynx ?12:37
leafwsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lynx12:37
alanonje12:37
leafwor lynx-ssl12:37
andyprewimpies: maybe12:37
_user_how can i install a bluetooth usb adapter?12:37
andyprewimpies: tried with "set -x"12:37
andypre?12:38
pulverleafw: true :)12:38
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wimpiesecho $((a+offset))12:39
wimpiesthis is the culprit12:39
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robotgeekwimpies: shouldn't it be (($a+$offset)), i'm just guessing tho12:39
wimpieslet me try ...12:40
andyprewimpies: $(($a+$offset))12:40
andypre$(( )) means arithemtic expansion12:40
wimpiesyes that is the purpose : add the offset to thev value of a12:40
wimpiesecho $(($a+$offset)) : syntax error ")syntax error: operand expected (error token is "12:40
pulverbut it still behaves weird =/12:41
andypretry $((${a}+${offset}))12:41
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wimpiesGot it ( it was not a syntax error of the script but the value of 'a' was not a proper value for expressions ...12:43
wimpiesHmm.  the read variable returns a CR character at the end ??12:45
wimpiesthe line in the files shows 1 but the value read is12:45
wimpies'1\r12:45
andyprewimpies: hmmm, it should not.12:45
wimpiesread a12:46
wimpies+ '[' 0 -ne 0 '] '12:46
wimpies+ eval $'z=1\r'12:46
wimpiesis what I get and the last line in the script reads eval 'z=$a'12:46
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andyprewimpies: what says ${#a} (length of var) ?12:48
wimpies212:49
wimpiesI checked my file and it contains ^M chars ... that should not be I guess ...12:49
andyprejep12:49
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stezandypre, leafw : I got it working! Needed to unlink all lock files, then chown the default user directory recursively from root to stez... now it works with all prefs, plugs, bookies... cool! Thanks a bunch!12:50
leafwstez: good you figured it out, and mostly by yourself! Keep and spread the knowdlege.12:51
andyprestez: np. and you did it on yourself.12:51
andypreby12:51
andyprebad english today ...12:51
stezno honestly.. I didn't know where to start... so you guys helped me a lot! I'll spread the word for sure! :)12:52
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pulverok.. downloaded and installed binary firefox only difference Gecko/20060124 along side with the Gecko/20060224 dapper and it doesn't have these symptoms using the same config...01:04
pulverbut if it works flawlessly for everyone else maybe i messed up some ff dependency or something...01:05
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koshthe only code that works flawlessly is the code that is not written ;)01:07
pulverkosh: hehe01:07
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adubis there a kde like program that will let you associate with a given access point01:13
adubout of a list of available APS01:13
aduband stay associated with it01:14
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leafwadub: there are, in various stages of development01:15
leafwthere is the network-manager package that does a pretty good job01:17
adubwell isnt that for gnome01:17
adubi got something in gnome to work before01:18
leafwworks well in kde as well01:18
leafwI use it.01:18
aduboh01:18
adubwhere is it at in kde01:18
leafweven the applet works fine inside kde.01:18
leafwopen Adept and install it from there.01:18
adubi just apt-cache search and it didnt show up01:18
leafwor 'sudo apt-get install network-manager'01:18
leafwadub: maybe the /etc/apt/sources.list don't have the universe/multiverse uncommented?01:19
adubit does01:19
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leafwsudo apt-get update ?01:20
adubok i found something that has a drop down list box of everything available01:20
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andypren801:22
unholycrapWhy is my Kubuntu installer not in english?01:22
unholycrapWhy oh god why01:22
leafw??01:23
leafwdid you download the german CD ?01:23
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Tallia1Kubuntuh guys01:28
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat do you think is the laptop is more suitable for kubuntu?01:29
stezTallia1Kubuntu: what do you mean?01:29
Tallia1Kubuntulike the one that works in the best way, also speaking about performance, graphic card...01:29
stezwhich model?01:29
Tallia1Kubuntulike which series01:29
Tallia1Kubuntui knew that lots of linux people always liked IBM thinkpad series01:30
stezI know a lot of people who are really pleased with the Thinkpads (IBM)01:30
stezlol01:30
Tallia1Kubuntuand KDE has a configuration are reserved to IBM too01:30
Tallia1KubuntuLOL01:30
stezexactly01:30
Tallia1Kubuntuthey have a new name now right?01:30
stezdo they?01:30
stezdunno01:31
Tallia1Kubuntuit's not anymore IBM01:31
leafwTallia1Kubuntu: I use a powerbook Ti 1GHz, works like a charm. Ibooks work really well too. You can get one on ebay for less thar $400.01:31
leafwthe new thinkpads are Lenovo. Their mouse is just as crude as it was before.01:32
Tallia1Kubuntu??01:32
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat do you mean crude?01:32
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robotgeekleafw: of course, you you tell Tallia1Kubuntu that ppc users are forcibly FREE :)01:32
leafwa red, touch sensitive button in the middle of the keyboard. Not a touch pad01:32
robotgeekif you use linux on it, i.e.01:33
stezTallia1Kubuntu: I use a Fujitsu Amilo A and Kubuntu runs very smooth on it as well!01:33
Tallia1Kubunturobotgeek: ?01:33
leafwrobotgeek: of course.01:33
robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: no codecs, no flash, lame java01:33
Tallia1Kubuntui have an acer TM803LCi and works quite good.. but i HATE acer01:33
Tallia1Kubunturobotgeek: ? what do you mean? no codecs?01:33
robotgeekTallia1Kubuntu: no binary codecs, (w32codecs)01:34
Tallia1Kubuntuin what?01:34
stezTallia1Kubuntu: Toshibas Travelmates are supposed to be very good Laptops - however I have no Linux experience there01:34
leafwin a powerbook? We have IBM-1.4.2-java and GIJ.01:34
Tallia1Kubuntuibm java?01:35
robotgeekleafw: hmm, i think the 1.5 java is there for ibm01:35
robotgeekleafw: check plf for deb01:35
leafwrobotgeek: plf ?01:35
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robotgeek!plf01:36
ubotu[plf]  the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only01:36
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leafwrobotgeek: can't find the 1.5.0 IBM java ... although google seems t point to many citing places01:39
robotgeekleafw: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/powerpc/non-free/ibm-java/ibm-j2re1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb01:39
leafwcool01:40
leafwthank you01:40
robotgeekleafw: better to install thru apt-get after adding repos01:40
leafwI usually don't install it, but run it from my own folders01:40
leafwthis is a JRE, where is the SDK ?01:41
leafwgotcha01:41
leafwxD01:41
leafwsame link, of course01:41
unholycrapwhy is my installe rnot in english?01:42
unholycrapi dont see how i could have mistakenly downloaded german01:42
unholycraphttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/01:42
unholycrapis not labled german, or english01:42
unholycrapare installers for both languages named kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso ?01:43
leafwunholycrap: can't you choose the language in the installer? I think is one of the first menus you find.01:45
davebgimpdid you maybe select the worng language by accident when initially running the installer?01:45
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robotgeekstez: please turn off that away message01:47
robotgeekstez: we are simply not interested :P01:47
unholycrapwell, at boot options01:47
unholycrappressing enter, without any additional options, gives me german01:47
seankwhen viewing a page with video on it in konq, i get "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink'" and then it crashes...01:47
stezrobotgeek: sry about that,,,01:47
robotgeekstez: no problemS :)01:48
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Extreme_UnctionCan anyone tell me how to turn off restore session whenever I reboot?01:50
zblachquick question. is there any xmms & kde integration in the form of a panel applet/lication?01:52
leafwExtreme_Unction: in the System Settings01:54
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leafwExtreme_Unction: User account, Session manager.01:56
Extreme_UnctionThx01:56
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zblachno? there was a gnome applet for that02:04
dark_suiczblach, there's some superkaramba themes and for sure there will be something at kde-apps.org02:07
xwolf-why the hell does mplayer have a single video size? i cant resize it02:10
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Boreliai also noticed that anoying as hell02:13
robotgeekxwolf-: ~/.mplayer/maplyer.conf , zoom = yes02:20
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Boreliaaah02:26
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Tallia1Kubuntuin C++ if s is a float02:38
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Tallia1Kubuntus ? EXP1 : EXP202:38
Tallia1Kubuntuis like s != 0 ? ......02:38
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_jahhello. anyone knows how to use arts as client for jack?02:40
_jahanyone knows how to run artsd as jack-client?02:42
_jahsry02:42
Tallia1Kubuntuin C++ if s is a float02:44
Tallia1Kubuntus ? EXP1 : EXP202:44
Tallia1Kubuntuis like s != 0 ? ......02:44
leafwTallia1Kubuntu: yes02:44
leafwbut I'd rather write it verbously02:45
leafwso you know in the future what that expression is meant to test.02:45
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runelindI have a wireless script that I want to run at startup, and I put it in /etc/init.d, is there anything else I have to do?02:52
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leafwrunelind: yes, ensure that it is in the proper run mode02:53
runelindhow do I do that? :|02:53
klaushey anyone wanna help me?02:53
klausi need java02:53
leafwand that it is finished when shuting down (the S- and the K- scripts in the /etc/rc2.d )02:53
leafwthe default running mode is 2, so fo to /etc/rc2.d/ and have a look there. There are start scripts (prepended S) and stop scripts (prepended K, for kill).02:54
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leafwCVs the wonderful: http://bash.org02:58
leafw#613868 +(172)- [X] 02:58
leafw<joesboxd3b> it is just ironic.... you can't get the cvs version of cvs unless you get the older version of cvs then cvs to the cvs server to get the latest cvs version of cvs02:58
leafwsentry out02:59
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Celestehi03:02
Celestewhat Xorg version does Kubuntu use, please?03:02
Tm_TCeleste: Xorg -version03:02
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Tm_Tor packages.ubuntu.com03:02
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unholycrapthe boot menu and install program on my kubuntu cd are in german03:03
unholycrapbut the help, F1-F? are in english03:03
unholycrapis there a command i can do to use english language?03:03
unholycrapperameter, rather03:03
unholycrapIhre Tastur ist: Deutsch03:05
unholycrapokay cool im gonna need to translate all these screens so i can find english03:05
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Boreliano i didnt have problem install03:07
unholycrapBelegung uber die Tastatur ermitteln03:07
Extreme_UnctionI use Alsa as my primary sound but Gaim sounds never work on it.. How can I fix this?03:07
Boreliano german for me03:07
unholycrapAuswahl aus der vollstandigen Liste03:07
unholycrapme either... babelfish is down too03:07
Boreliayes but i didnt have this problem i remember03:07
Extreme_UnctionCan anyone help me, then?03:08
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unholycrapoh i see03:09
unholycrapits recognizing the keyboard as german?03:09
unholycrapthe first screen is keyboard03:09
unholycrapwell poopy03:09
unholycrapgreat03:09
unholycrapwait a min03:10
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Extreme_UnctionI'm going to update to KDE 3.5.1 :)03:11
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unholycrapFUCK03:12
Extreme_Unction?03:12
Extreme_UnctionWow, they actually have repositories for 3.5.1 kubuntu03:13
Extreme_Unctionsw33t03:13
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Extreme_UnctionCan anyone help me get Gaim's sound working? I use Alsa for everything basically03:21
seankwhen viewing a page with video on it in konq, i get "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink'" and then it crashes...03:23
Extreme_Unctionseank: Try enabling universe repository and then doing "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins"03:24
gleesonddoes anyone know about dirvers for asus motherboards? I'm trying to get my gigbit nic to work properly. for some reasion the way it is now, my routers webpages won't load all the way03:24
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sybilstartkeylogger03:26
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ragnado anyone knows a program that could recognice in what code is a video file encoded?? =o03:26
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rocinantecan anyone tell me how to reinit my nick card, it is not coming up on my other machine03:27
seankExtreme_Unction: same thing...03:27
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rocinantei checked dmesg and I don't see anything03:28
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Extreme_Unctionseank: Not sure, I use alsasink for Amarok and I believe I got it off of gstreamer0.8-plugins03:31
seankExtreme_Unction: well, gstreamer0.8-alsa is already installed.03:31
Extreme_UnctionDid you install gstreamer0.8-plugins?? It has other things.03:31
seankyes, i did.  it doesn't work.03:32
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Extreme_UnctionGive me a link to a website with video and I'll try on my konq.03:33
Extreme_UnctionI use Firefox 1.5.1 primarily, but why not give it a go.03:34
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seankExtreme_Unction: any i try, but try http://www.break.com/index/noworkwank.html03:34
Extreme_UnctionYou need mplayer, correct?03:35
seankhuh?03:35
Extreme_Unctionwell, that's what your trying to use anyway03:35
seankno, i don't have mplayer.03:35
seankkaffeine.03:35
Extreme_Unctionahh03:35
Extreme_UnctionI'll install that then03:35
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Extreme_UnctionWait!03:37
Extreme_UnctionHave you installed kaffeine-gstreamer?03:37
seankit's stupid that it crashes though... it should just tell me i don't have the right stuff and then not show it.. not frickin crash teh thing.03:37
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seankExtreme_Unction: that's already installed.03:37
rocinantewhat is the command to renew my lease from a dhcp server?03:37
farousrocinante: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth003:38
rocinantefarous: thank you03:38
farousyw :)03:38
Extreme_UnctionYou beat me by one second!03:39
Extreme_UnctionHeh03:39
farousExtreme_Unction: how are you my firend03:39
Extreme_UnctionGood03:39
farouslol am still messed up after the exam so sorry for spell03:39
Extreme_UnctionHehe03:39
Extreme_UnctionI just took FCAT (Florida Assessment Test)03:39
ryanakcahow do you make konversation auto-replace/complete words.... ex: :) becomes 03:39
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Extreme_Unctionseank: No idea, sorry.. if you fix it tell me.. I'd like to know aswell.03:42
Extreme_UnctionI'd say your best bet is to switch Kaffeine to the Xine engine.03:43
rocinantefarous: i'm good to go03:44
rocinantethanks again03:44
farousur welcomed my freind03:44
Extreme_UnctionCan anyone help me get Gaim to expel sound properly? At the moment, I hear nothing from Gaim!03:44
faroushm gaim and sound though i run it all the time do not know what sound you are talking about03:45
farousso i guess it never worked here :)03:45
Extreme_UnctionWhen you pm someone it should make a sound!03:45
Extreme_UnctionIt worked fine on Gnome/Windows03:45
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SmrtJustinI kind of have an odd problem, in Opera or Firefox, when I scroll really fast up, it goes Back, and when I scroll really fast down, it goes Forward, is there anyway to fix this, cuz I love scrolling through pages really fast...03:47
seankwhere can i get w32codecs?03:50
farous!tell seank about restricted03:51
farousseank follow ubotu link there is a link to where you can download it03:51
Extreme_UnctionAlso, I can't get sound working on Firefox (Flash game)03:51
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csseyahhello guys!03:54
csseyahquestion pls!!!! may i???03:54
Extreme_UnctionGo for it03:54
csseyahhey guys03:55
farous!anyone03:55
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>03:55
csseyahhow can i copy a file from one folder to anothe folder in konsole????03:56
farouscsseyah: man cp03:56
csseyahgood03:56
csseyahthanks!!!03:56
farouscp <source file> <destination file>03:56
farousyur w :)03:56
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csseyahfarous???03:57
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csseyahis that source file or source folder????03:57
farouscsseyah: that is the syntax for copy03:57
farouscsseyah: /dir/source file =<source file>03:58
csseyahhow can i put that file to another folder bro03:58
csseyahic03:58
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crxyemuse the cp command04:00
csseyahfarous do u know how to hackproof????04:00
farouscsseyah: hackproof ?? am not familiar with the term04:01
csseyahic04:01
csseyahhackproof means... using hacking tools in linux/ unix04:03
farouscsseyah: as in hack a pc or hack a program as in reverse engineering04:04
faroushacking progs I do form time to time. but pcs am not interested04:04
csseyahahh ic04:05
csseyahfarous YoUR the MAN... thanks!!!04:05
farouscsseyah: good luck my freind04:06
csseyahfarous one thing more! did u already configured ur server??? can u give me some manual on how to config my server co'z im newbie if you don't mind , thanks!04:10
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farouscsseyah: i am not running a server here04:10
farousjust my laptop04:10
csseyahic04:10
farouscsseyah: visit wiki.ubuntu.com04:11
csseyahbut if u have some manual on how to configured can u share it????04:11
csseyahok\04:11
csseyahthanks!04:11
farousthere are help documents there that will give you a good push04:11
farouscsseyah: look for the help documents or just documents should be neare the top04:12
csseyahsure!04:13
csseyahtnx04:13
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karatI've got onboard audio that I tried disabling in the BIOS but it still pops up under lspci and so it still gets the alsa0 spot04:15
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Extreme_UnctionI can't get sound to work in Gaim or Firefox, anyone know how to fix this?04:22
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Joe12345Hello04:30
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Joe666hey04:31
Joe666anyone there04:31
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frank23maybe04:37
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CellarDoorhey all04:38
CellarDoora friend came around and I showed him Apollon04:39
CellarDoorhe was impressed (he's a windows user)04:39
frank23yeah. its the only program I know that gets into FastTrack04:40
CellarDooryeah, he saw that I was connected to three different networks at once and said, "ooh you have the powa"04:41
CellarDoorbut... he said (not that its that important), "whats with the crap name ?"04:42
CellarDoorso... I said what would you call it ?04:42
CellarDoorI had already explained to him that it was a giFT client04:43
CellarDoorso he goes, "its a KDE app... filesharing... all these KDE apps seem to have a K in their names (which he also finds annoying)..."... "nevertheless" he said...04:44
CellarDoorand he goes... "filesharing... K... sharK"04:44
CellarDoorsharK04:44
CellarDoorI thought... hey, you know, thats not bad04:44
frank23shark...  yeah04:45
CellarDoorI'm only telling you guys cause there's no one in #apollon atm04:45
CellarDoor:P04:45
CellarDoorthey might be loath to consider a name change, but I thought, sharK is catchy04:45
Extreme_UnctionLol04:45
frank23maybe it's too piratey though ;)04:46
Extreme_UnctionI need to think up a unique but catchy name..04:46
CellarDoorfrank23: lol yeah maybe :)04:46
Extreme_UnctionHad to ditch my old identity because I was hated by too many people.. Ahh well.04:46
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CellarDoorlol04:46
Extreme_UnctionK-K-K UNIT! zOmG its da K-K-K UNIT!04:47
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CellarDooreh ?04:47
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goldbrick!xcfg04:47
ubotu[xcfg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:48
Extreme_UnctionLol, every one and a while I do find it slightly annoying that almost all of my software starts with a K04:48
Extreme_UnctionOr atleast has a K (amaroK)04:48
CellarDoorhehe04:48
CellarDooryeah04:48
Extreme_UnctionBetter than G, I suppose.04:48
Extreme_Unction:)04:48
CellarDoorlol04:48
CellarDoorIt can be a bit annoying, but I liked "sharK"04:48
Extreme_UnctionHeh, my system administrators are idiots @ my school, a bit off topic.04:48
CellarDoorslightly04:49
frank23I don't know why they chose K... it doesn't stand for anything does it?04:49
Extreme_UnctionBooted up FreeSBIE and they said "I was hacking the network."04:49
CellarDoorI'm not sure04:49
CellarDoorI think it originally stood for Kool04:49
Extreme_UnctionWoah, I skipped the fucking network login, whoop-de-doo.04:49
Extreme_UnctionOh Noes!! THE BIG AND BAD FREEBSD04:49
Extreme_UnctionSeriously, I wanted to nail him.. he didn't even know what FreeBSD was, or BSD, or Linux.04:50
CellarDoorwhat the...04:50
Extreme_UnctionThe retards they hire as 'system administrators' this day.. he ran off of XP.04:50
frank23you know what   fvwm    stands for?04:50
Extreme_UnctionI'm only fifteen and I could do a better job!04:50
Extreme_Unction!fvwm04:50
ubotuExtreme_Unction: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:50
CellarDoora sysadmin who doesnt know what FreeBSD or Linux is ? erm... does he know what Unix is ?04:50
CellarDoorfrank23: no idea04:51
Extreme_UnctionWell, all of that, to him, registers as a "Hacking tool."04:51
frank23on the website they say  f...... virtual windows manager04:51
CellarDoorargh04:51
CellarDooroh04:51
Extreme_UnctionAll he does to sysadmin is run a shitty client on our computer in which he can watch/control/etc (Like VNC.. only for a whole network)04:51
Extreme_Unctionnet stop client3204:51
Extreme_UnctionWoah!04:51
Extreme_UnctionFucking owned!04:51
CellarDoorthats what our sysadmin at work does04:51
CellarDoorits all windows there04:52
CellarDoorlosers04:52
Extreme_UnctionHeh, just end the service.04:52
Extreme_UnctionI boot up to FreeSBIE or a live linux disk because I don't feel like screwing with Windows.. I usually just use OpenOffice..04:52
Extreme_UnctionBut no, I can't use OpenOffice.. I get in trouble for using hacking tools. I'm hacking with OpenOffice 2.. Woah!04:52
CellarDoorI put a live linux cd in the bosses computer once04:53
Extreme_UnctionI also like to actually program Java once and a while04:53
CellarDoorI booted his comp with a live Cd in it and left it like that04:53
Extreme_UnctionLol04:53
frank23Extreme_Unction: did he actually use the word hack for what you were doing?04:53
CellarDoorhe nearly had a heart attack04:53
Extreme_UnctionYes!04:53
Extreme_UnctionHe said I was bringing 'hacking software' to school.04:53
frank23Extreme_Unction: lol04:53
CellarDooropen office ?04:53
Extreme_Unctionand confiscated my disk!04:53
Extreme_UnctionWhat the fuck!04:53
Extreme_UnctionNo, Linux in general.04:53
Extreme_UnctionHe through away my disk.04:54
Extreme_UnctionFFS04:54
Extreme_Unctionthrew *04:54
Extreme_UnctionI had to go to wally world and get a new disk.04:54
CellarDoorI would have gone straight to the principle's office and told him about it and said they should sack him for total incompetence04:54
Extreme_UnctionEveryone around here is totally incompitent.04:54
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CellarDoordidnt you make a big fuss ?04:54
CellarDoorI would04:55
Extreme_UnctionI got in trouble because some kid decided to keep pestering me because he thought I was 'hacking the school' while I was compiling some Java/etc in Konsole.04:55
CellarDoorgo sick man04:55
Extreme_UnctionHeh, fussing just makes things worst when people are an idiot about a subject!04:55
CellarDoorstart shouting at people04:55
CellarDoortell them what you think of them04:55
Extreme_UnctionI don't want to be banned from computers, when I have two computer-orientated classes in which I'd fail.. and I'm on the verge of it!04:55
CellarDoortake it higher04:56
CellarDoorstupidity needs to be nipped in the bud04:56
Extreme_UnctionTowards the end of the year I'm going to use FreeSBIE to extract the SAM password hashes, and use rainbow tables to crack the admin password and give it to everyone.04:56
Extreme_UnctionHeh.04:56
Extreme_UnctionOr something to that extent.04:56
CellarDoorwhat did they confiscate again ?04:56
Extreme_UnctionI don't know :\04:56
Extreme_UnctionOnly my FreeSBIE disk.. but seriously! I don't want to go to wally world.04:57
Extreme_Unctionand he bitched and moaned at me..04:57
CellarDoordemand it back04:57
Extreme_UnctionLol04:57
Extreme_UnctionHe threw it away.04:57
CellarDoorseriously04:57
CellarDoorthats stealing04:57
Extreme_UnctionI'll demand he order me an official copy from a distro vendor04:57
Extreme_Unction:)04:57
CellarDoordemand it04:57
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CellarDoorits theft04:57
csseyahguys! help here!!!04:58
CellarDoorI'm serious04:58
csseyahwhat is the command for installing firefox04:58
CellarDoorbeing a teacher doesnt give him the right to simply take something that doesnt belong to him04:58
Rebeccaapt-get install firefox  (?)04:58
csseyahgot it04:58
csseyahthank rebecca04:58
csseyahmuwaaHHh04:58
Rebeccathat's a guess, lol04:58
CellarDoorsudo apt-get install firefox ;)04:58
Extreme_UnctionHeh, you should probably use the tutorial on how to update to 1.5.1 while your at it.04:58
Extreme_UnctionAlso, you should probably add some repositories to update to KDE 3.5.1 if you haven't!04:59
CellarDoormeh04:59
Extreme_UnctionAnyways, CellarDoor.. I'm a shitty at bitching!04:59
CellarDoorI think I'll just wait till april for dapper04:59
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Extreme_UnctionStupid people keep arguing even if they know they're wrong05:00
Extreme_UnctionI know that good05:00
frank23Extreme_Unction: Stupid people keep arguing; they don't know if they're wrong or not05:00
CellarDoorExtreme_Unction: seriously, you should go to your principle and tell him that you had something taken which should not have been and that if its not replaced youre going to the police to report a theft.05:00
Extreme_Unctionfrank23: Someone kept arguing that WINE was an emulator when I showed him what it stood for!05:01
Extreme_UnctionOn the official website!05:01
frank23hehe05:01
CellarDoortell them, "ignorance is not a virtue"05:01
Extreme_UnctionCellarDoor: I'd rather just fuck with them!05:01
csseyahwow05:02
csseyah:p05:02
CellarDoorstand on some principles05:02
Extreme_UnctionI'm good at finding vulnerabilities, not bitching.05:02
CellarDoordont give open source a bad name by misbehaving05:02
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CellarDoorcause you'll give ignorant people that impression05:02
Extreme_UnctionYeah, there is NO RULE about booting up FreeSBIE!05:02
Extreme_UnctionOr any linux!05:02
CellarDoorthey'll only believe more strongly what they believed in the first place05:02
CellarDoorif you mess with them05:02
CellarDoorso educate them05:03
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Extreme_UnctionHmmm, I didn't make a big deal about it then.. I suppose it isn't too late to bring up a complaint on the issue.05:03
CellarDoorthrow things at them like, "a teacher who cannot learn, should not teach"05:03
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Extreme_UnctionOh man, we have the most retarded classes!05:04
csseyah:p05:04
Extreme_UnctionI'm in a class where we get a MOS degree.. That is so useful.05:04
CellarDoorMOS ?05:04
Extreme_UnctionMicrosoft Office Specialist.05:04
CellarDoorhahahahahahaha05:04
csseyahwowie05:04
CellarDoor:P05:04
Extreme_UnctionThe only classes that show ANY challenge at all are Drafting.. Which is pretty easy.05:04
Extreme_UnctionAutoCAD05:05
Extreme_UnctionWe had Java programming class (Basics), and VB (EWWWWWWWWWWW) but noone passed them ever so they took them out.05:05
Extreme_Unctionlol05:05
CellarDoorgo to your principle and ask to be expelled05:05
Extreme_UnctionHeh, I couldn't have that unfortunately.05:05
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Extreme_UnctionI need a scholarship.. not exactly rich.05:05
CellarDoortell them your afraid if you stay there any longer your brain might liquify ;)05:06
_adubwhat is the latest stable kernel i can apt-get install05:06
Extreme_UnctionI am going to transfer to ATC (Advanced Technology Center) in 11th grade.05:06
CellarDoorExtreme_Unction: is that better ?05:06
Extreme_UnctionATC is big on hardware and they've got some good classes.. even as extreme as Assembly programming05:06
CellarDoormeh05:07
Extreme_UnctionAnd you can take a lot of college classes there and save some money.05:07
duckdownHey all.. I just installed Dapper 4-Kubuntu over Dapper 4-Ubuntu (Sick of gnome, and the ugly brown themes.)..  And I uncommented the pre-commented lines from /etc/apt/sources.list and did an 'apt-get update' but 'apt-cache search snes' is yielding NO packages; when I was in Ubuntu Dapper there were at least 5..  Can someone search for 'snes' and see if some Emulator packages come up05:07
CellarDoorok05:07
CellarDooreek05:07
Extreme_Unctionduckdown: Compile zsnes yourself or look for a .deb/repository with it.05:07
Extreme_UnctionI compile zsnes myself last time :\05:07
duckdownhmm is that better than SNES9X ?05:08
Extreme_Unctionmuch05:08
duckdownserious. thanks man05:08
duckdownlet me check it out05:08
Extreme_UnctionIt's even got a battle net application (Compatible with Linux)05:08
Extreme_Unctionwww.zbattle.net05:08
duckdownyou don't have it in your apt-cache though?05:08
duckdowncause i dont05:08
Extreme_UnctionNo, sorry.. I don't have it any more.05:08
duckdownok thanks05:08
Extreme_UnctionI suggest you build it or search the web for a deb package.05:09
duckdowni'll try building it i guess :D05:09
Extreme_Unctionkyle@Linuxbox:~$ apt-cache search snes05:09
Extreme_Unctionkodo - mouse odometer for KDE05:09
Extreme_Unctionadonthell - A 2D graphical roleplaying game05:09
Extreme_Unctiongcpegg - Global Consciousness Project EGG Software05:09
Extreme_Unctionvisualboyadvance - a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator05:09
Extreme_UnctionSorry for the paste :\05:09
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Extreme_Unctionduckdown: You need nasm to compile it, by the way!05:12
Extreme_Unction!nasm05:12
ubotuExtreme_Unction: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:12
Extreme_Unction:\05:12
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Extreme_UnctionWell, it's on my apt-cache05:12
Rebeccadoes kubuntu support ati cards automaticly?05:13
Extreme_UnctionI believe you need a driver for full support.05:13
Rebeccaok05:13
Extreme_Unctiondownduck: I'll play you some zsnes in a bit on netplay if you want05:14
Extreme_Unctionand if you need help compiling it, just ask, downduck :D05:17
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duckdownExtreme_Unction: yeah, its needed a bunch of stuff05:21
duckdownnasm, zlib, libpong05:21
duckdown*libpng05:21
duckdownyay, compiled ok ;)05:21
Extreme_UnctionAhh05:21
Extreme_UnctionI got sound init failed05:21
duckdownExtreme_Unction: Is it for X ?05:21
Extreme_Unctionbut got it compiled right05:21
Extreme_UnctionIt works in X, yes..05:21
Extreme_UnctionI'm not sure about running it without X.05:22
Extreme_Unctiondo you get sound init failed when you start it.. duckdown?05:22
duckdownnewp05:22
Extreme_UnctionHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!05:22
Extreme_UnctionIt doesn't say that in your shell?05:23
duckdowni think the sound engine blows in this05:23
duckdowni tried it on kubuntu05:23
duckdownerr Ubuntu05:23
duckdownhad to move to snes9x for good sound emulation05:23
duckdownNope, my sound works, its just choppy05:23
Extreme_UnctionHeh05:23
Extreme_UnctionYou using Alsa?05:23
duckdownyeah05:24
duckdowndamn it, the sound sucks05:24
Extreme_UnctionI'll try to fix it05:24
Extreme_Unctionbut05:24
Extreme_UnctionLet me load up a ROM05:24
duckdownsure05:24
duckdownit worked great in snes9x :S05:24
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Extreme_UnctionI can't get it to work at all!05:27
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Extreme_UnctionDoes your sound work in gaim .. duckdown?05:27
duckdownit would im sure, but i dont like it05:27
duckdowni like Kopete :-)05:27
Extreme_UnctionMine doesn't!05:27
duckdownoh, it does for sure sorry05:27
Extreme_UnctionIt's very selective05:28
duckdowni had it in Ubuntu05:28
Extreme_UnctionMy sound worked perfectly in Ubuntu but most things fail in Kubuntu05:28
duckdownthe new Dappers are REAL good at auto-detection.. even detects my resolution right05:28
Extreme_UnctionAmarok/etc work05:28
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duckdownonly thing it breaks05:28
Extreme_UnctionAhh, you're on Dapper?05:28
duckdownis my touchpad.. i have to manually edit xorg.conf05:28
duckdownyep05:28
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Extreme_UnctionHeh, well my sound doesn't work for many things05:29
Extreme_UnctionGaim, Firefox, Zsnes05:29
duckdownLet me ask you this05:29
duckdownopen up the Konsole05:29
duckdownand press BACKSPACE at the prompt05:29
duckdowndoes an ultra-loud bell ring?05:29
Extreme_UnctionYes05:29
duckdownthats my #1 complaint in Kubuntu05:29
csseyahhey guys!!! i interrupt ur conversations :p i would like to ask something!!! how can i make a file -> libjavaplugin_oji.so05:29
duckdownok well that thing drives me nuts05:29
duckdownits so damn loud05:29
duckdownI don't know how to disable it forever05:30
Extreme_Unctionlol05:30
Extreme_UnctionI do05:30
duckdownnice05:30
Extreme_UnctionSystem Notifications in Sound & Multimedia in System Settings?05:30
Extreme_UnctionHOLY toledo05:32
Extreme_UnctionI just made a system ring that could wake up the neighbors05:32
duckdownhahahaha05:33
duckdownoh man thats classic05:33
Extreme_UnctionMan! I want sound!05:34
Extreme_UnctionSound!05:35
Extreme_UnctionYay05:35
Extreme_UnctionYou fond of Contra 3, duckdown?05:35
duckdownsure05:38
duckdowncontras were sweet05:39
duckdowni loved super-punch out05:39
duckdownthats what im trying to find05:39
duckdowngoogle shows nothing but spam sites when looking for roms :(05:39
Extreme_UnctionWould you like to netplay me contra 3?05:39
Extreme_UnctionAhhh, I have a few good ones05:39
duckdownI can't use ZSNES05:39
Extreme_UnctionWhy not?05:39
duckdownmy sound is choppy05:39
duckdownI have to use snes9x, which I just installed05:39
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Extreme_UnctionHeh, you sure you're using ALSA??05:39
duckdownPositively05:39
duckdownintel_ich05:40
Extreme_UnctionDoes Snes9x have a deb package?05:40
duckdownit has net mplay too05:40
duckdownnot sure, i download the binary05:40
duckdownhang on05:40
duckdownwww.snes9x.com05:40
Extreme_UnctionWell, if you give me linkage I'll play some Contra 3 with you05:40
duckdownokay05:41
duckdownhttp://vincent.grigorieff.free.fr/snes9x/05:41
duckdownthere ya go05:41
vexxstartkeylogger05:41
vexxguess nobody running norton05:42
Extreme_Unctionduckdown: I got my contra 3 from www.sexy-nerd.com05:42
Extreme_Unctionhttp://www.sexy-nerd.com/snesroms.php05:42
duckdownright on!05:43
duckdownit has good ones05:43
duckdownsuper punch out ;)05:43
duckdownthanks05:43
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klaushey05:44
klausi need help05:44
klauscan sum1 tell me how i can get java so that i can run frostwire?05:45
frank23!java05:45
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:45
Extreme_UnctionWeeeeeelllllll05:45
Extreme_UnctionI can help you klaus05:45
klausawesome05:45
klauslol05:45
Extreme_Unctionhttp://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb05:45
Extreme_UnctionDownload that, and dpkg -i it05:45
Extreme_UnctionThen do05:45
klausi have the jadeide.zip pack05:46
klausi'm new to linux.. baby sets man lol05:46
klausi don't know anything lol05:46
Extreme_UnctionWeeeeeeeellllllll05:46
Extreme_UnctionDownload http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb05:46
Extreme_UnctionThats the proper JRE 1.505:46
klausooo05:47
klausalright05:47
Extreme_Unctionduckdown: We'll netplay in a minute, Contra 3.. ok?05:47
duckdownyou got snes9x?05:47
Extreme_UnctionTell me when that's done, klaus05:47
duckdownweird the sound isnt working for super punch out :S05:47
Extreme_UnctionYeah, I'm setting it up05:47
duckdownbut works great for FF205:47
duckdownHow can you set it up? Mine is just crappy command line05:47
duckdownsnes9x rom.smc05:47
klausextreme how long u gonna b on?... i'm in the process right now05:47
Extreme_UnctionI stay up until work at 5am05:48
Extreme_UnctionSo.. All night05:48
klauslol05:48
klausalright05:48
Extreme_UnctionAnyways, you got an nvidia card?05:48
duckdownHow can i find out what is using /dev/dsp05:48
duckdownsomething locked my damn sound05:49
Extreme_Unctionduckdown:Where can I edit resolution/controls?05:49
Extreme_UnctionHmm.. kill artsd05:49
Extreme_UnctionThat's what I do05:49
duckdownExtreme_Unction: exactly what i'd like to know05:49
duckdowni just adjust the window size05:49
duckdownwith the cursor05:49
duckdowntheres a detailed readme but i didnt bother :P05:49
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duckdownyay there it goes :) workin again05:50
duckdownsuper punch out here i come05:51
duckdownwhen you're ready to rock05:51
duckdownlet me know05:51
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Extreme_UnctionI'd like to rock right now but I refuse to play without my controls05:52
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duckdownheehee05:53
Extreme_UnctionWhatever, I'll use the lame controls!!05:54
duckdownoh man i'm ripping it up in punch out05:55
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duckdowni dont know how to netplay though05:55
duckdowncheck out the syntax05:55
duckdowni know it supports it05:55
Extreme_Unction!05:55
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Extreme_Unction05:55
_redondoshello!05:56
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_redondoshow do I enter to another chanell ?05:56
duckdown /join05:56
_redondoswith konversation05:56
_redondosok05:56
_redondosthanks05:56
Extreme_Unctionduckdown05:57
Extreme_UnctionLinux snes9x doesn't support netplay I don't believe!!05:57
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Extreme_UnctionPlus in the faq he says Zsnes is better netplay.. You should try to fix your audio problem :\05:58
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duckdownsure but how05:58
Extreme_UnctionI could check out your system using remote desktop or something if you want..05:59
duckdownin kubuntu?06:00
Extreme_UnctionYes06:00
Extreme_UnctionDo you have Krdc?06:00
Extreme_UnctionKrfb for the server, actually.06:02
duckdowni doubt you could figure it out without hearing it06:02
duckdownwhat the hell could it be..06:02
duckdownit plays.. but its crackly06:02
Extreme_Unctionhmmm!06:02
duckdownim in zsnes right now06:02
Extreme_UnctionDo you have the gstreamer0.8-plugins package?06:02
duckdownwhoa06:03
duckdownmighta fixed it06:03
duckdownsample rates06:03
Extreme_UnctionIs it fixed, duck?06:04
duckdownthink so, I gotta lower the sample rate by one06:04
duckdownone setting06:04
duckdownseems to be good now06:04
duckdownhang on, let me fool around06:04
Extreme_UnctionZsnes is much better, anyway!06:04
duckdownyeah at least it has an interface! lol06:05
Extreme_UnctionSnes9x sucks dick in network play on windows anyway, that being put rightly..06:05
duckdownhehehe06:05
Extreme_UnctionAll I remember is lag playing with someone on a network parallel to mine.06:05
duckdown:O06:05
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Extreme_UnctionWhere would be a proper directory to stick Zsnes anyway?06:06
duckdownusr/local/bin06:06
Extreme_UnctionThe whole folder? I'm new to Linux in general.06:06
Extreme_UnctionOr just the executable?06:06
duckdownim a rookie too :D06:06
duckdownjust the executable06:06
Extreme_UnctionThen where does it get it's config files?06:07
duckdowndid you compile it?06:07
duckdownyou do a 'make'06:07
Extreme_UnctionYes06:07
duckdownfollowed by 'make install'06:07
duckdownand it does it all for you06:07
Extreme_UnctionOh! I didn't do make install06:07
Extreme_UnctionSilly fucking me!06:07
duckdownlol :)06:07
Extreme_UnctionMan06:07
duckdownhaha dont be so hard on yourself :D06:07
Extreme_UnctionLook @ all that ASM code.06:07
Extreme_UnctionThat is some crazy emulator06:08
duckdownya i know diddly about coding06:08
Extreme_UnctionI like Java and C06:08
Extreme_Unctionbut I code a little bit of ASM06:08
Extreme_UnctionBoy, coding ASM for snes is no fun06:08
duckdownoh man zsnes workin good now06:08
duckdownpunch out runnin sweet06:08
Extreme_UnctionI got a good idea06:09
Extreme_Unctionduckdown: What is a suitable place to stick yer r0ms?06:10
duckdownjust ~/roms06:10
duckdown /home/YOU/roms06:10
duckdownexcellent06:11
duckdownbeers are ice cold too06:11
duckdownbeers & snes games06:11
duckdownsounds like a plan06:11
Extreme_UnctionHaha, I wish I could myself.06:11
duckdown:)06:11
Extreme_UnctionHey06:11
Extreme_Unctionwww.zbattle.net06:11
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Extreme_UnctionIt's a battle net thing for zsnes06:11
duckdownone sec just setting up my MSN06:11
duckdowni forgot to06:12
Extreme_UnctionJust copy the executable into the same directory as zsnes06:12
duckdownok06:12
duckdownhang on06:12
Extreme_Unctioncp zbat /usr/local/bin then run it.. set up your crap and we'll play06:12
Extreme_UnctionBetter then entering IP and there are always people on it!06:12
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Extreme_UnctionOk well duckdown, Tell me when you got zbat up and running and we'll play some contra 3!06:15
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duckdowndcc me the rom i guess06:16
Extreme_UnctionSecond06:16
Extreme_UnctionActually06:16
duckdowni cant see the link on zbattle.net06:16
duckdownto download it06:16
Extreme_Unctionit's on sexy-nerd.com06:16
duckdowni dont have flash installed06:16
Extreme_UnctionSecond then06:17
duckdownhehee thanks06:17
Extreme_UnctionYou have QT 3.1.x?06:17
Extreme_Unctionhttp://zbattle.net/files/zbattle.net-1.09sr1.tar.gz06:17
duckdownnot too sure, its a stock dapper installation06:17
duckdownkde uses QT06:17
Extreme_UnctionShould06:17
duckdownso id assume so06:17
Extreme_UnctionGet it there06:17
Extreme_Unctionand get the rom @ sexy-nerd.com06:18
Extreme_UnctionGot it yet, duckdown?06:21
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Extreme_UnctionGot it yet, duckdown?06:25
klaushey extreme06:25
klausi'm back06:25
Extreme_UnctionHey06:25
klausits done06:25
Extreme_UnctionOk06:26
klausnow what lol06:26
Extreme_UnctionNow open up Konsole06:26
klausdo i have to unpack it or anything?06:26
Extreme_UnctionGot it open?06:26
Extreme_Unctionno06:26
klausok06:26
Extreme_UnctionGot Konsole open?06:26
klausyea06:26
Extreme_UnctionType in06:26
Extreme_Unctionsudo dpkg -i Jre1.5.0.bin       (Replace jre.1.5.0.bin with your .deb location)06:27
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klauswhere did it save to?06:27
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klausits not on my desktop06:27
Extreme_UnctionD/W06:27
Extreme_UnctionIt did it right?06:27
Extreme_Unctionnow do06:28
Extreme_Unctionsudo update-alternatives java06:28
Extreme_Unctionand select the last one06:28
klausok i got it06:28
Extreme_UnctionThat's your default Java now06:29
Extreme_UnctionHave phun06:29
Extreme_UnctionWhat did you need it for, anyway?06:29
Extreme_Unctiondo this though..06:29
Extreme_Unctiondo the command "java -version" (Minus the quotes) and paste me the output06:30
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klaushmm06:31
klausi can't find the bin file06:31
Extreme_UnctionWell06:31
Extreme_UnctionJust do java -version06:31
Extreme_Unctionreal quick06:31
Extreme_Unctionand paste me the output06:31
klauscontrol.tar.gz   data.tar.gz   debian-binary06:33
klausthose are the files i got from it06:33
Extreme_UnctionFrom java -version??06:33
Extreme_UnctionNo!06:33
Extreme_UnctionJust do java -version and paste me the output06:33
Extreme_UnctionNo need for ANY of that!06:33
klausklaus@gunther:~$ java -version06:34
klausjava version "1.4.2"06:34
klausgij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)06:34
klausCopyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.06:34
klausThis is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO06:34
klauswarranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.06:34
klausklaus@gunther:~$06:34
robotgeek!paste06:34
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.06:34
Extreme_UnctionOk, you have the bin file.. right?06:34
klausi dunno06:34
Extreme_Unctionhttp://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb06:35
klausi sent u all that i got from that thing06:35
klausi got 3 files06:35
Extreme_UnctionYou need one deb!06:35
Extreme_UnctionForget bin06:35
Extreme_UnctionI meant deb.. oops06:35
klauslol06:35
Extreme_UnctionDo you have the deb file?06:35
klausi can't fine it06:35
Extreme_Unctionhttp://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb06:35
klausthat link just sent me those 3 files06:35
Extreme_UnctionIt sent you a .deb ffs06:35
Extreme_UnctionLook at the trailing url06:36
Extreme_Unction.deb06:36
klausok06:36
Extreme_UnctionTell me when you have the .deb06:36
klausok06:36
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_redondoshello06:38
_redondosa question...06:38
Extreme_UnctionShoot06:39
_redondoscan anyone recommend me a good sound editor for kubuntu breezy ?06:39
_redondosi were searching.. but... :(06:39
_redondostoo much dependencies06:39
Extreme_Unctiontry sourceforge.net06:39
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brydennk i need a little help trying to find my windows hard drive heh06:40
brydenni thought it woulda mounted automatically or something06:40
[{cool}] hey06:40
[{cool}] :)06:40
brydenni got my windows HD as a slave06:40
Extreme_UnctionUse the mount command then?06:41
brydennwell... what is it and how do i know the name of the HD to mount it?06:41
Extreme_Unctiontry looking in /media06:41
_redondossystem settings>disk and filesystems06:41
Extreme_UnctionAnyone wanna netplay some zsnes?06:42
_redondoswith setuid root06:42
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_redondosit's sequencial06:42
_redondoswindows partitions can only be stored at first of the hd06:42
_redondosit's hda106:42
_redondosmount it in /media/hda106:44
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duckdownhey06:46
_redondos?06:46
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duckdowni had to do something sorry Extreme_Unction06:47
Extreme_UnctionAhh06:47
Extreme_UnctionCan you grab zbattle.net?06:48
duckdownyeah06:48
duckdowni got it06:48
Extreme_UnctionOk06:48
duckdownsetting up ./zbat right now06:48
Extreme_Unctionok06:48
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Extreme_UnctionJust copy the executable to your bin where zsnes is06:48
Extreme_Unctionbrb in 506:48
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Extreme_Unctionduckdown06:54
Extreme_UnctionI'm bback06:54
_redondosbryden, I cant post private msgs06:59
_redondoswrite here!06:59
brydennok i did what you asked07:00
brydennand i see my HD in Disk & Filesystems07:00
brydennbut i still dont know how to mount it say... on the desktop or whatever so I can access it as usual07:00
_redondoswell.. there it should say.. the mount point07:00
brydennyah its HDB107:00
_redondosthe folder where it is stored..07:00
_redondosno.. a folder,07:00
_redondosthats a dev07:00
brydennwell where is the mount point for it?07:01
brydenndo i have to go browsing for it?07:01
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_redondosall is stored in07:01
_redondos"/media"07:01
_redondosor go to "storage media"07:02
brydennthis is F'ed up then07:02
brydennya been there07:02
brydenni have 3 cd roms there and a floppy07:02
brydennno HDs07:02
_redondos...07:02
brydennand in reality... i only have 2 physical CD Drives07:02
_redondoswait07:02
_redondosyes I see..07:02
_redondoshdb...07:02
brydennk :)07:02
brydennyah the dev is HDB107:02
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_redondosthere is a button..07:03
_redondos"disable"07:03
_redondosor "enable"07:04
brydenndisabled07:04
_redondosdid you found it out ?07:04
brydennshit brb07:04
_redondosclick07:04
_redondosenable07:04
_redondoslike root.. always07:04
_redondos?07:06
_redondosyes07:06
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klausextreme u there?07:16
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klaushello07:22
klausextreme?07:22
_redondosbrydenn ????07:23
me2winwhat do i use to mount cue files in kde?07:26
Extreme_UnctionYeah07:28
frank23yeehah! I managed to connect to my cell phone with bitpim.sourceforge.net07:28
klaushey man07:28
klausok07:28
klausi'm ryd07:28
klausrdy07:28
klausfound the deb file07:28
klausbut there are 207:28
Extreme_UnctionWhat the fuck07:28
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Extreme_UnctionI gave you the DIRECT LINK to one DEB file.07:29
me2win!cue07:29
ubotume2win: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:29
klausthe same thing... ones .deb and the other is .deb.part07:29
me2win!mount07:29
ubotuhmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f07:29
Extreme_Unction.deb.part means you didn't download it all the way07:29
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klausok07:29
klausi'll delete that one?07:29
Extreme_UnctionNo07:29
Extreme_Unctionboth are fucked07:29
klauswell wtf07:30
klausgive me that link again..07:33
klausi'll just redownload it yet again07:33
robotgeekExtreme_Unction: please mind your language07:34
klausextreme?07:34
Extreme_UnctionI'm sorry, but the issue here is you need to learn how to download a file.07:36
Extreme_UnctionSorry.07:36
klauslol07:36
klauswell whats the problem?07:36
Extreme_Unctiona .part is made when a file is downloading/was partially downloaded07:36
Extreme_UnctionThat's the problem07:36
Extreme_UnctionMeaning you don't have it downloaded.07:36
klausyea but i had both the .deb and one .deb.part07:36
Extreme_Unctionthe .deb is made too07:36
klausok07:37
Extreme_Unctionbut it's not complete07:37
klauswell what would cause the download to fail?07:37
klausthat one downloaded til atleat up in the 90 sum % bc i went to get food and it was still goin at 91% i think07:37
Extreme_UnctionDelete them both and redownload them, then..07:38
klausi am07:38
klausi need the link07:38
klausif u would sir07:38
Extreme_Unctionhttp://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb07:39
_redondosbye bye07:39
_redondosI love you all07:39
_redondoshahaha!07:39
klausthe download automatically starts..07:40
klausit selects the file07:40
Extreme_UnctionThen don't use Konqueror07:40
klausi don't have anything else07:40
Extreme_UnctionGet firefox or something07:40
klausi just started gettin inot linx.07:40
klaus..07:40
klausyesterday lol07:40
Extreme_UnctionYour job to get the file..07:40
klausi can find the folder tho..07:40
Extreme_Unctionok07:40
Extreme_UnctionI have work to do07:41
klausi know07:41
Extreme_Unction(Type lynx in console?..)07:41
klausnot found07:41
klausok fuck it07:42
klausi'll let this thing download 2night07:42
klausi'll talk to sum1 bout it tomorrow morning07:42
Extreme_Unctionk07:43
klausthanks for tryin to help me out tho07:43
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sambagirlanything such as themes for kubuntu?07:45
Extreme_Unctionkde-look.org07:46
Extreme_Unctionttyl all I gotta get on FreeBSD for a bit07:46
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carlk!ubotu seen07:46
sambagirlthank you07:48
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ronaldson40how do i enable irda on the laptop07:51
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ronaldson40hi07:54
ronaldson40anybody....07:54
robotgeekhey ronaldson4007:54
ronaldson40hi07:56
ronaldson40I installed the Irda tools from Adept07:56
ronaldson40however I cannot find where can i enable the Irda07:56
robotgeekronaldson40: lemme google07:57
ronaldson40k07:57
robotgeekhttp://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/IrDA/IrDA.html this page has details at the bottom07:57
robotgeekronaldson40: ^^07:57
ronaldson40I am checkin it out07:58
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ronaldson40robotgeek can i download this package thru adept07:59
robotgeek!info irda-utils07:59
ubotuirda-utils: (IrDA management and handling utilities), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.16-9ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 264 kB07:59
ronaldson40yah i installed that08:00
ronaldson40but i cannot find it on the settings page08:00
ronaldson40I mean the system and settings page08:00
ronaldson40how do i activate it08:02
me2win!scp08:02
ubotuDo they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win08:02
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_roothi08:25
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ronaldson40I downloaded the flash player installer for konqueror08:25
ronaldson40and installed it in directory /usr/lib/mozilla08:25
ronaldson40however it still says flash not detecte08:26
ronaldson40d08:26
ronaldson40how do i resolve this08:28
robotgeekronaldson40: sorry, no clue08:28
ronaldson40k08:29
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[Vampis] morning :)08:36
_redondossay something08:38
[Vampis] "something"08:39
[Vampis] there..08:39
[Vampis] happy ?08:39
_redondostell a joke08:39
[Vampis] ok08:39
[Vampis] Do you have a mirror there you are=?08:39
_redondos???08:40
[Vampis] yes or no ?08:40
_redondoshaha08:40
[Vampis] now u got it :P08:40
_redondos"in a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows..."08:41
Extreme_UnctionAnyone wanna play Contra 3?08:42
_redondosalgun rgentino por aca ???08:43
_redondosalgun Argentino por aca mierda???08:44
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GullyFoyleamarok won't start for me after i installed gstreamer0.8-mad and amarok xine. where can i paste the rror message so someone can help?08:49
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Extreme_Unctionget gstreamer0.8-plugins and also make sure your engine is gstreamer and output module is alsasink (If you use ALSA, which you should!)08:50
GullyFoyleit won't start08:51
GullyFoyleit hangs on the splash08:51
GullyFoylewith an error window08:51
GullyFoylebefore it was using gstreamer engine and alsa. now i can't even look because it wont start08:52
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farous!seen ilba7r09:10
ubotuilba7r <n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 5d 2h 36m 8s ago, saying: '!xgl'.09:10
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GullyFoyleyay i finally got amarok working09:22
[Vampis] nice :)09:23
[Vampis] how did u fix it ?09:23
GullyFoyleha dto change owner of /var/tmp/kdecache-"me"/ksycoca to me. it was owned by root for some reason after i installed amrok-xine and gstreamer0.8-mad09:27
[Vampis] nice call of you to find it09:28
[Vampis] :)09:28
[Vampis] I'll never would have foundit09:28
GullyFoyleerror messages helped09:29
GullyFoyleran it from console to track errors09:29
Kamping_Kaiserthsts a bug then ;) error messages arnt supposed to help :O09:29
tijn_hehe09:29
GullyFoylehar har09:29
tijn_lameass09:29
tijn_:(09:29
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tijn_erhm :) i mean09:29
GullyFoylehelpful09:30
Kamping_Kaiser:P09:30
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GullyFoyleamarok is cool even using fluxbox i can run mouse over icon in systray to change volume09:32
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GullyFoylefluxbox compiled with kde support is faster than kde09:34
GullyFoyleworks for me09:34
morrowWIN-Key & numpad +/- works also ;-)09:35
GullyFoyleoh yeah cool09:36
GullyFoylethx morrow, ya think i'd look some of this up eh?09:37
GullyFoylewow there's a lot of shortcuts09:38
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GullyFoyleget some use outta that WIN key09:39
morrowyeah well.. my notebook has no win key09:39
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GullyFoyleyou can reconfigure thouh09:40
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morrowi know but i'm already using every meta key :)09:40
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chafei just installed09:41
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chafesudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()09:41
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chafei just installed09:41
chafei cannot edit /etc/hosts09:41
chafewithout root09:41
chafeand i cant hostname newhostname without root either09:41
chafehow do i fix this problem with sudo without being root??09:42
GullyFoylesudo nano /etc/hosts doesnt work?09:42
chafeno09:42
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chafesudo gives me this error09:42
chafei havent touched the installation yet, its fresh09:43
chafeis this going to happen every time i install and dont call myself "localhost" ?09:43
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GullyFoylewhat error does sudo give you?09:44
chafesudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()09:44
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chafeaye, recovery mode09:49
chafethanks guys09:49
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SupervisorIs there anyway I can download all the updates and burn them on a CD?10:23
SupervisorI don't have a good internet connection at home so I have o fetch the files at work10:23
SupervisorAnd at work I merely have windows10:24
ChousukeThere's apt-zip but I don't know if there's a windiws version of it.10:24
tijn_dunno10:24
Chousukewindows*10:24
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tijn_dl'ing the packages and burning them would work, but you need linux i think10:25
SupervisorI just want to know if there is a single rep where I can download all the patches10:25
Supervisorcause there is no way to know which packages I need exactly10:26
ChousukeSupervisor: you could download all the .debs, but that's a lot of work :/10:26
Chousukeyou could download the entire repository, too, but it's huge. :P10:26
SupervisorIsn't there a single /update path for Breezy?10:26
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itabuon giorno10:37
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ita(not kubuntu, more kde specific i fear) - is there a keyboard shortcut like windows-m (minimize ALL windows / show desktop) with kde ?!10:39
SupervisorYes ita10:40
SupervisorCtrl + Alt + D10:40
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SupervisorYou can set it however you like in KControl10:41
itanice!10:42
itathank you .. i missed that :)10:42
SupervisorYou're welcome10:42
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xChomphi10:43
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SupervisorHi xChomp10:44
xChompwhen i try to remove kaffeine, aptitude says that he wants to remove the kubuntu-desktop too. what exactly does that mean? will it remove the whole kde with all its applications?10:44
Kamping_KaiserKubuntu-desktop is a metapackage10:45
Kamping_Kaiserit's what's used to install Kubuntu from the cd10:45
Kamping_Kaiseryou can remove it if you want, but upgrades to the next version of Kubuntu may not go as smoothly10:45
xChompi see.. ok, thanks Kamping_Kaiser10:46
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hirshi10:54
xChomphi hirs10:55
Kamping_Kaiserhi10:56
xChompwhere can i see which package contains a special file? i have an application here called kbtserialchat, but if i wanna remove it with aptitude it says not found.10:56
[Vampis] qpopmenu.h10:57
[Vampis] cant find wich package to install to get that10:57
Kamping_Kaiserapt-cache search not helping?10:57
hirs[Vampis] : it seems part of qt3-dev10:57
Kamping_Kaiser[Vampis] : look in -dev files10:57
hirs[Vampis] : you can search at packages.ubuntu.com10:58
[Vampis] I did that10:58
hirsyou can search by file10:58
hirsthe second search box10:58
[Vampis] weee10:59
[Vampis] thanks :)10:59
hirsdoes konqueror support smooth wheel scroll like firefox?10:59
[Vampis] *compiling*10:59
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[Vampis] it worked :D11:00
=== [Vampis] so happy
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cyneanyone here tried kubuntu and ubuntu ?11:01
hirsHas any one made work mouse gestures on KDE?11:01
hirscyne: me11:02
cynehirs, which do you prefer, and why?11:02
hatake_kakashicyne: different users different tastes11:02
hirsi tried ubuntu for 3 months, but i finally switch to kubuntu, I love kde11:02
cyneok11:02
cynei'm downloading ubuntu at the moment11:03
Kamping_Kaiserfwiw, i don't particularly like KDE, or the KDE blue :)11:03
Kamping_Kaiserso i use ubuntu (in answer to your question)11:03
hirsKamping_Kaiser: you have themes ;)11:03
hatake_kakashiI was on KDE for a while till I somewhat got sick of a process named gam_server so I switched to Gnome and I'm somewhat addicted to it after splitting a few hairs ;) *technically, it was a little challenging however I got around to get Gnome to my tastes*11:04
Kamping_Kaiser:) not a themey person11:04
hirsthere is also a simplekde project for those who likes simplicity11:04
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: Gnome had that problem as well. ( ist a Gnome daemon isnt it?)11:04
Kamping_Kaiserall good now:)11:04
xChompwhere are my alsa mixer settings stored?11:05
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hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser: yeah its still bugging me every so often on KDE but on Gnome that has somewhat gone down a bit. However it still is annoying when you don't really want it11:06
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Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: i agree about anoying.11:06
Kamping_Kaiserhi ubuntu11:06
ubuntuhi zusammen ;)11:06
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Kamping_Kaiserwb :)11:07
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xChompguten morgen, demotape ;)11:07
demotapemorgen xChomp11:07
Kamping_Kaiseri just had a thought - if you unmount a sata hdd, you could hot swapt it couldnt you? because it's using the same bus (scsi) as usb drives do11:08
demotapehtte mal ne frage, kann mann die Live DVD irgendwie instalen?11:08
Kamping_Kaiser!de11:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de11:08
demotapeahh ^^11:08
Kamping_Kaiserand i think the answer is yes11:09
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xChompKamping_Kaiser: where are the alsa mixer settings stored?11:10
Kamping_KaiserxChomp: not sure.11:11
fatejudgeris dmix broken in ALSA?11:12
fatejudgerKDE seems to grab up the sound system and not let it go11:13
fatejudgeras does gstreamer and Xine11:13
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zax1hello11:13
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Kamping_Kaiserhi11:15
Kamping_Kaiseri thought KDE used esd?11:15
Kamping_Kaiserer11:15
Kamping_Kaiserarts11:16
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fatejudgerKamping_Kaiser: it does11:18
_siljehi everybody, is there someone who can help me to get my alsa drivers work?11:18
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fatejudgerI was just saying that gstreamer and xine have the same problem as well11:18
Kamping_Kaiserah aok11:19
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_siljeomg, i have sound, its just that i cant get sound when i play wmv files11:22
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hirs_silje:  do you have win32 codecs installed?11:27
hirsw32codecs package11:28
_siljehirs: yes11:28
_siljehirs: i see the movie, but no sound11:28
hirswich player are you using?11:28
_siljehirs: beep11:28
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hirshum.. did you tried mplayer or kaffeine?11:29
_siljehirs: ive tried kaffeine, it didnt work, so I followed i guide i found after a quick google search, it told me to install beep media player, it worked 50%, but i cant get sound11:30
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hirs_silje: bmp to play videos? strange guide.. mplayer has better codec support (the best in linux i think)11:32
_siljeis it just to do a "sudo apt-get install mplayer" or do i have to do other things, im a real newb so i cant do pretty much at my own11:33
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tijn_erhm, not sure but i think there is a mirc and xchat exploit11:34
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hirs_silje: yes11:35
_siljebefore i switched to kubuntu i had gentoo, it worked just to emerge mplayer, and  it could play wmv files, but i tought that gentoo was harder than kubuntu, and that kubuntu was more "automatic" tha gentoo, so i switch, now im not so sure anymore11:35
_siljecouldnt find the package mplayer11:35
hirs_silje: if doesn't work add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe11:35
_siljeok hiris11:35
raphinkmplayer is not in universe11:36
raphinkit is in multiverse11:36
raphinkiird11:36
hirsmultiverse?11:36
raphinkiirc11:36
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raphinkyeah11:36
hirs_silje: sorry, change universe for multiverse11:36
raphinkand putting it in multiverse is already a risk ;)11:36
_siljehirs: okey, so it will be now " deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse11:37
raphink_silje: it's not that kubuntu is more automatized than gentoo or not11:37
raphink_silje: gentoo packages anything, doesn't matter whether it has a licence or not, or whatever might be a problem11:38
farousraphink: whay the risk ?11:38
hirs_silje: yes, don't forget to do a apt-get update after adding the source11:38
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_siljei did11:38
raphink_silje: we try to not provide any app, and provide only free apps by default11:38
_siljeor, im doing it now11:38
galvezhello11:38
raphinkfarous: juridic risk. mplayer shouldn't be redistributed iirc11:38
farousok thanx11:38
farousis it the same also with gs-afpl11:39
_siljeso raphink: whats the diffrence between gentoo and ubuntu with kde?11:39
_siljeraphink: i use linux because i hate microsoft and all with it, and dont realy know the diffrence11:39
raphinkhow do you mean with kde ?11:40
raphinkthe main difference between gentoo and ubuntu is the package system11:40
_siljehirs: i did11:40
_siljesorry, ignore my last post11:40
hirs_silje: for me the difference was in app installation speed :)11:40
raphink_silje: gentoo provides ebuilds to be built by users with emerge, ubuntu focuses on binary packages for users11:41
_siljehirs: isnt that because gentoo compiles all, that makes it a bit faster, but not very?11:41
galvezexcuseme, im new to linux, i installed kubuntu 5.10 just now, i opened a terminal and realized i didnt liked de name of the computer so i did this: sudo nano-w /etc/hosts and changed it for the one i like11:41
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galvezbut now i cant make sudo anymore, can any of u guys help me ?11:42
tijn_DCC SEND "ircsucks" 0 0 011:42
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DrJoeneerhm, tijn? wtf?11:42
tijn_ups11:42
hirs_silje: yes, once installed it's a bit faster, but I don't like to wait 2h to update kde11:42
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raphinkgalvez: /etc/hosts is not where to change your machine name. You should change it in /etc/hostname and have it fit with /etc/hosts11:43
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galvezraphink: but i cant do sudo anymore, it wont let me change anything11:43
raphinkgalvez: did you set a root password ?11:43
_siljenow mplayer plays wmv files, with sound. But i cant change the aspect ration11:43
_siljenow mplayer plays wmv files, with sound. But i cant change the aspect ratio**11:43
galvezraphink: no, i dont think so11:44
galvezdo i have to reinstall everything ?11:44
raphinkgalvez: there are other options, but if you don't want to have further problems, I'd suggest you reinstall. I also suggest you think about the name of your host before installing ;)11:45
galvezok thank you very much11:45
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raphink:)11:47
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[Vampis] anyone that nows how i set a password to my bluetooth ?11:50
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[Vampis] I havnt set any and when my phone tries to connect to my computer, it asks for password11:50
[Vampis] I use kubuntu breezy kde 3.5.111:50
visik7123411:51
[Vampis] ok ?11:52
[Vampis] *tries*11:52
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visik7[Vampis] : cat /etc/bluetooth/pin11:53
[Vampis] thank u11:53
[Vampis] =)11:53
[Vampis] so i can change it to whatever I want ?11:53
allee[Vampis] : No! ;)11:54
allee[Vampis] : it should match the pin code of the bluetooth device11:55
[Vampis] eeh ?11:59
[Vampis] the PHONE asks for the password to the computer bluetooth11:59
allee[Vampis] : pin code or password is the same here.12:00
[Vampis] yes, but then I should type in 1234 on the phone ?12:01
allee[Vampis] : set the bt password in the phone (1234 is a bit lame choice)12:01
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allee[Vampis] : set the same in /etc/bluetooth/pin12:02
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alleelunch bbl12:03
[Vampis] I cant set password in the phone12:03
allee[Vampis] : then check phone docs for preset value12:03
alleebbl12:03
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zax1hello12:04
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zax1wonder if any one can help with configuring a linux unit on a windows network12:04
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raphinkwhat's the problem zax1?12:05
zax1i installed kubuntu on a system, now i want it to joing the workgroup of the other windows computers12:06
raphinkyou need to install samba12:06
zax1samba ?12:06
raphinkhmm not even sure actually12:07
raphinkwell did you try smb:/ on konqueror?12:07
zax1!google samba12:07
ubotuzax1: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:07
raphinklol12:07
raphinkzax1: try putting smb:/ in the url bar in konqueror12:07
raphinkand see what you get12:07
zax1thanks12:08
m0ns00nstartkeylogger stopkeylogger12:09
m0ns00n:-)12:09
Chousuke:P12:09
m0ns00nhehe12:09
m0ns00n^^12:09
ChousukeI somehow doubt that many people on this channel use norton.12:09
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ba-studenthi i need a textbrowser... how can i download it ?12:10
raphinklinks or lynx12:10
raphinkare good choices ba-student12:10
raphinkif you mean a text-based internet browser12:10
ba-studentyeah i know but i donno how to get it i have got somethink like this12:11
raphinksudo apt-get install links12:11
raphinkor12:11
raphinksudo apt-get install lynx12:11
ba-studentapt-get install links212:11
raphinkdepending on which you want ;)12:11
raphinkyeah or links212:11
ba-studentbut there comes an error: cannot find packafe links12:12
raphinkdid you apt-get update ?12:12
ba-studentno how can i do that ?12:13
ba-studentjust apt-get update ?12:13
raphinksudo apt-get update12:13
raphinkthen you try12:13
raphinksudo apt-get install links212:13
raphinkagain12:13
raphink;)12:13
ba-studentmh ok i made the update and there came12:14
ba-studentreading packafe lists... done12:14
ba-studentthen i tried links again12:15
ba-studentbut it is the same error again :[12:15
raphinkhmm12:15
raphinkdid you activate universe?12:15
ba-student^^ sorry don't know that that is12:15
raphinkthen you didn't ;)12:15
ba-student:]  i think so too12:15
raphinkedit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines12:15
raphinkor use adept to do so12:16
ba-studentalright ;D12:16
raphinkthen apt-get update again12:16
raphinkyou can activate the multiverse lines, too12:16
raphinkthat can be useful12:16
raphinkfor mp3 and other stuff like that12:16
puckmanI reckon they should make a splash screen when you first install it "if you want stuff you need to add these lines in apt"12:17
raphinkhmmm12:17
raphinkwell12:17
raphinkno I don't think we should do that12:18
ba-studentalright now it works ;D12:19
raphinkgood12:19
ba-studentthank you !!12:19
raphink:)12:19
ba-studentcan you also tell me how i can change the display soltuion in the x server ?12:20
raphinkyou have to reset the x server12:20
raphinksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:20
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raphinkhi Hobbsee12:21
Hobbseehey raphink12:21
raphinkhow are you today?12:22
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Hobbseei'm ok - went to uni all day, then went to work12:22
raphink:s12:23
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weedarAnyone feels qualified to guess what a pentium laptop is most likely to have memory-wize?12:25
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Riisa buddy of mine just uninstalled gcc, and it seems apt decided to uninstall itself in the process12:28
Riisis there an apt-tarball you can fetch and get apt running again?12:29
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HobbseeRiis: use aptitude instead?12:37
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fatejudgerwhat the hell is up with dmix not working?12:39
fatejudgerI can't play more than one thing at a time12:39
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fatejudgerwithout other things complaining that the sound system is taken12:39
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Pupeno_What do I need to install on my kubuntu to access samba printers ? the dialog for adding a new printer has samba printers greyed out.12:40
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Kamping_Kaiseryou cant accidently uninstall apt12:43
Kamping_Kaiserit stops you and says "are you sure, type 'yess i am sure i want to do this':12:43
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DaveQBso there's no "File Association" in the Kubuntu System Settings app ??  Have to navigate through a Kmenu listing to see all the components of Kcontrol12:47
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pulverDaveQB: why not run kcontrol?12:56
alleePupeno_: smbclient for /usr/bin/smbspool12:57
Pupeno_allee: thanks.12:58
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Pupeno_allee: I've installed smbclient but it is still grayed out.01:02
DaveQBpulver:  i see.  But Kcontrol is not in the Kmenu.  I thought "System Settings" was just an enhanced Kcontrol, didnt know it had anything removed :-/01:02
alleePupeno_: ls -l /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb   # is smb a link to smbspool01:04
Pupeno_yes.01:05
alleePupeno_: mhmm...01:06
bobthelotPupeno_: are you in adminstrator mode? have you restarted the K01:08
Pupeno_I haven't restarted K.01:08
bobthelotKcontrol01:08
Pupeno_oh, that, yes.01:08
Pupeno_I didn't need administrator mode to add a samba printer on my wife's computer (kubuntu as well).01:09
alleePupeno_: who did you try to add the printer with http://localhost:63101:09
allees/who/how/01:09
Pupeno_allee: no, not with the web interface01:10
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alleePupeno_: can you try?01:11
alleePupeno_: here I see 'Windows printer via Samba' as expected01:12
allee.. in the web interface01:12
Pupeno_cups asks for a username and a password...01:12
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Pupeno_restarted cups and now it is no longer grayed out! :)01:13
alleePupeno_: :)01:14
Pupeno_thank you.01:16
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_stianpeople, anyone that can help me with this?01:34
_stianhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=788337#post78833701:34
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Skrot_stian: What are you trying to compile?01:38
_stiantrying to compile this http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/01:39
Skrot_stian: You most likely lack libavcodec-dev and libavformat-dev01:39
_stianill try those01:39
Skrot_stian: Si ifra om det er noe mer som manger da ;)01:40
_stians du er norsk :)01:40
SkrotMye som tyder p det ja ;)01:40
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_stiankunne nesten sett det utifra "skrot" navnet ditt...er vel ikke noe engelsk ord det nei01:41
SkrotIkke som jeg vet om nei =)01:41
_stian:)01:41
_stianfikk samme error, men skal prve noe, 2sec01:41
pulveris there any firefox themes that only applies to the icons in the navbar?01:42
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_stiannope, no go skrot. samme error01:42
Skrot_stian: At du mangler avcodec.h og avformat.h?01:42
_stianer newbie her, s hvordan skaffer jeg dem?01:43
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weedarS mange nordmenn det plutselig var her da01:44
SkrotDe ligger i de to pakkene jeg gav deg navnet p. Og begge de to er installert?01:44
tijn_whut?01:44
_stiande er installert ja01:44
SkrotNorway loves kubuntu ;)01:44
_stian(mye norsk det ble n ja)01:44
_stianwe sure love kubuntu, yes!01:44
weedarPersonally I have more of a platonic relationship with my OS, but I won't judge you01:45
Skrot_stian: You're sure it's the exact same error with the exact same "codecs.h:12:28: error: ffmpeg/avcodec.h: No such file or directory"?01:45
hatake_kakashiplatonic?01:45
SkrotA very non-profound relationship01:45
_stianmen fatter fremdeles ikke hva som er galt, p den brbare maskina funker det fjell, og ser ikke at jeg har installert noe mer der01:45
hatake_kakashiSkrot: ahh ok thanks01:45
_stian2sec01:45
_stianskrot, skal poste outputen i bloggen min, 2sec01:47
Skrotokay =)01:47
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_stianwww.pretending.net  ble et utrolig rot da men01:47
_stianvnt01:47
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_stianwww.justpretendig.net01:48
Skrothmm01:49
_stiannoe peiling?01:49
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SkrotIs this a svn/cvs/something release of the program, or is it a stable release?01:50
SkrotCause to get "?CAP_AVI? undeclared" it's either broken, or you still lack the file which declares CAP_AVI01:50
_stiandont really know, i can try to compile some stable package instead01:50
_stianhold on01:50
_stiangotta find one01:50
SkrotTry getting liblame-dev01:51
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_stianok, 2sec01:51
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SkrotTry liblame0 as well01:52
SkrotAnd run ./configure again01:52
_stianwill do01:52
_stiani had lblame001:52
_stianwill try to compile with the other one though01:52
_stianhang on01:53
_stiansame error01:53
_stianwill try with a stable package, hang on01:53
_stiansure takes some time to configure this one..01:55
SkrotYou might want to have a look at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8822029&forum_id=3603601:55
_stianlooks familiar ;)01:56
Skrot"...tm you MUST configure using --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg --with-gtk2"01:57
_stianhow do i do that, just ./configure followed by it?01:57
Skrotyupp01:57
_stianokay01:57
_stianwill try when im done with the sudo make on the stable package01:58
_stiantakes a crapload of time01:58
_stian(compiling kftpgrabber)01:58
Skrothehe =)01:58
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_stianhehe01:58
_stiangood god! still "making" over here..02:00
SkrotWhat kind of machine? =)02:01
_stian2.8ghz pentium D, 1gig of ddr2 ram, 200s-ata disk... so its kinda wierd02:01
_stianbut hey, it just completed, but with errors02:01
_stianmake[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 102:01
_stianmake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/stian/Desktop/kftpgrabber-0.7.0-beta1'02:01
_stianmake: *** [all]  Error 202:01
_stiantrying with --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg --with-gtk2 on that other program again02:03
_stianeven if that works, it still sucks that i can't compile other packages, any idea on what more i may be missing?02:03
_stiannope, no go even with the --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg --with-gtk202:04
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Skrotokay, you probably need to use "make gvidcap" instead of "make"02:05
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linuxboyfriendhi all02:06
_stiando i need to configure again to try that?02:06
Skrotnope02:06
_stianokay02:07
_stiannope02:07
_stianexited with errors02:07
linuxboyfriendi was install a package and configure gave this error: "Configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake)02:07
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linuxboyfriendi was install a package and configure gave this error: "Configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed"02:07
SkrotWhat are you trying to compile?02:08
Skrot_stian: okay. Seems that program has issues (judging by the sf forum) :>02:08
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_stianyes02:08
_stianso lets just forget abut that program, doesnt matter, dont really need it02:08
linuxboyfriendSKrot: i am compiling some enomics related software02:08
_stianbut i really want to be able to compile other programs :(02:08
Skrot_stian: what errors did you get on the KDE program you tried to compile?02:09
linuxboyfriendSKrot: can you tell me how can i fix this error?02:09
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Skrotlinuxboyfriend: Try sudo apt-get install xmkmf02:09
linuxboyfriendSKrot: it says that xmkmf is already installed02:10
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Skrotokay. That package is compiled with a build system I'm not familiar with :>02:10
linuxboyfriendSKrot: it gave another message lemme tell you that message also :)02:10
ba-studenthey i configured my xorg.conf but i am still not able to have another display solution02:11
_siljeanyone had a problem starting limewire?02:12
linuxboyfriendSKrot: "Make sure you all necessary X development packages installed. On some systems a missing /lib/cpp symlink is at fault" thats the another message02:12
_stianill be right back, but let me know if you think of something skrot02:12
_stianer du norsk silje?02:13
Skrot_stian: sure, I just need the rest of the error =)02:13
Skrot_silje: There's limewire for linux now? :)02:13
_stianhang on, ill have to do it again then02:13
Skrot_stian: post it somewhere, dont paste :)02:13
linuxboyfriendSKrot: i think you dont have any idea?02:13
_stian:)02:13
Skrotlinuxboyfriend: hang on02:14
linuxboyfriendSKrot: :) ok02:14
Skrotlinuxboyfriend: Try getting xlibs-dev02:14
linuxboyfriendSkrot: ok lemme try02:14
_siljeSkrot: yes02:15
_siljeSkrot: didnt you know that?02:15
Skrot_silje: I did not :)02:15
_siljeSkrot: ok02:15
linuxboyfriendSKrot: i have installed xlibs-dev, lemme start the configure process again :)02:15
Skrotlinuxboyfriend: go ahead :)02:16
Skrot_silje: Did you build it from source?02:16
_siljeWell, in my house i got to pcs, one station and one laptop. The station has gentoo and laptop has kubuntu, on gentoo limewire works great, but on my kubuntu it hangs02:16
_siljeSkrot: yes02:16
SkrotI'll try it, hang on02:16
_stianskrot: http://justpretending.net/ajfork/blog.php?subaction=showfull&id=1141391808&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&02:17
linuxboyfriendSKrot: no, the error appears again :(02:17
Skrotlinuxboyfriend: What does ls -alh /lib/cpp say?02:18
linuxboyfriendSKrot: ok lemme check02:18
Skrot_silje: Seems to run fine here :>02:19
linuxboyfriendSKrot: /lib/cpp -> /usr/bin/cpp-4.002:20
Skrotlinuxboyfriend: damn. :)02:20
_siljeSkrot: what do you sugest me to do?02:20
linuxboyfriendSKrot: i wanna tell you one more thing that I am using gcc-3.4 instead of gcc-4.002:21
_siljeSkrot: reinstall whole shit and build it from source again?02:21
SkrotBuild from source? I just ran the java version :)02:21
_siljeSkrot: ok, can you gimmie a link to it? (A)02:22
Skrot_stian: Get libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libdbus-1-2 libdbus-qt-1-dev libdbus-1-dev02:22
_stianwill install em now02:22
Skrot_silje: Or I could just send it :)02:22
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_siljeok, fine02:22
Skrothttp://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther is the link by the way02:23
_siljethx02:23
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linuxboyfriendSKrot: as xmkmf is installed then why its giving error?02:24
_siljeSkrot: Ok, I am a real newb, tought ive had many linux distros. So I cant solve the rpm problem i have on my kubuntu distro02:24
Skrot_silje: Such as converting from .rpm to .deb you mean? =)02:24
_siljeSkrot: yes02:25
Skrotallrighty, the java version seems okay though :)02:25
_siljeSkrot: ill trie it now:)02:25
_siljebut gottat go02:26
_siljebye02:26
SkrotBye :)02:26
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_stianthank you so much skrot! it finally works!!02:27
_stianthanks!02:27
SkrotNo problems :)02:27
_stiangreat ;)02:27
SkrotIt's usually easy as long as it's a missing header or a lib. Use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to search for files (usually header files ending with .h) and if it's a library, such as "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldbus-1" just apt-cache search dbus | grep lib and get everything relevant :P02:28
_pakoc' qualche italiano che puo' aiutarmi?02:28
Skrot!italian02:28
ubotuSkrot: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/02:28
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Skrotdoh02:28
Firetechhmm the 'koffice' package is held back because it can't install kexi (not available)... koffice 1.5 beta binaries02:29
_mindspin!it02:29
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:29
Skrot!no02:31
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...02:31
SkrotGuess not :>02:31
_mindspin!nor02:31
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin02:31
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_mindspin!n02:34
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ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin02:34
KaoticEvilanyone use a 3dfx voodoo card?02:36
bipolarKaoticEvil: thats a really old card.02:41
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zax1any one about ?02:41
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bipolar.02:42
tijn_about what?02:42
Abdul_MueidHello all02:42
bipolarhi Abdul_Mueid02:42
zax1i need help installing gforce mx4000 on kubuntu02:42
Abdul_Mueidhow are you bipolar?02:42
bipolarok02:42
zax1i am completely green and a bit miffed by it all02:42
Abdul_MueidI want to add a command to startup and I cant find rc.local... any advice?02:43
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: what command do you want to add?02:43
Abdul_Mueidiptables .....02:44
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zax1can any one guide me? or point me to a link where i have more info?02:44
Abdul_Mueidand echo 1 > ....02:44
Abdul_Mueidit's to open a connection so I can connect my Nokia to my PC and use internet02:44
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: ahh.... I think there is an iptables service iirc... saves and restores an iptables config... let me check...02:44
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Abdul_Mueidok02:45
Abdul_Mueidthe exact command is: "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE"02:45
KaoticEvilbipolar: i know it is...02:45
KaoticEvilbut i really like 3dfx cards02:45
_valentinhi02:45
Abdul_Mueidhello _valentin02:45
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=696302:46
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: couldn't find the iptables service.02:47
Abdul_Mueidbipolar: bytheway, I am running Dapper02:47
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: me too02:47
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bipolarKaoticEvil: what is the issue with the card?02:47
ccc_ubotu: tell zax1 about nvidia02:48
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paineshi02:48
zax1thanks ccc_02:48
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Abdul_Mueidhello paines02:49
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painesanyone know what launpad is ? I wanted to log into bugzilla.ubuntu.com, and it says to use launchpad02:49
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Abdul_Mueidbipolar: I am trying to createmy own rc.local and adding the commands to it02:49
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Abdul_Mueidpaines: you need to make a Launchpad account02:50
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: looks like a better way is to creat /etc/rc.boot dir and add scripts to it.02:50
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Abdul_MueidI dont have scripts made, and neither I know how to make them :(02:50
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: take a look at that whole thread. there are a few options02:50
bipolar#!/bin/sh02:51
bipolarecho "I'm a script"!02:51
bipolar^^^ very simple script02:51
Abdul_Mueidcan I just create a .sh file starting with #!/bin/sh with my command in it and add it to the rc.boot folder?02:51
bipolarchmod +x it and put it in /etc/rc.boot... you don't need .sh at the end...02:52
Abdul_Mueido.k.02:52
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KaoticEvilbipolar: none as of yet... i havent installed it...02:53
Abdul_Mueidbipolar:  do I have to type "echo"02:53
KaoticEvilwas just wondering if kubuntu has any issues with 3dfx cards02:53
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: no... :) that was the command.... use your own commands ;)02:54
bipolarKaoticEvil: shouldn't be.02:54
bipolarKaoticEvil: don't expect any 3D support though02:54
Abdul_Mueidalright02:54
Abdul_Mueidthanks alot for the help bipolar :)02:54
KaoticEviloh well02:54
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bipolarAbdul_Mueid: no problem.02:54
KaoticEvilwill still be better than the 1MB onboard intel chip i have now....02:54
bipolarKaoticEvil: sounds like an old machine.02:54
bipolarKaoticEvil: old machines are fun to hack on02:55
KaoticEvilit is an old box.. celly 400... 128MB of PC-100 SDRA<02:55
KaoticEvilsdram*02:55
KaoticEvilits an old HP Pavilion that ive done some tweaking to :)02:55
bipolarKaoticEvil: ahh02:55
bipolarKaoticEvil: thats not that bad.02:55
bipolarKaoticEvil: I got a couple of Pentium 90 laptops around ;)02:56
Abdul_Mueidbe back after reboot :)02:58
KaoticEvilbipolar: i set up a complete mail/web server/internet gateway on a 200MHz sony vaio laptop :)02:58
bipolarnice02:58
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KaoticEvilworked great too...02:58
bipolarold machines are great for that stuff02:59
KaoticEvili know it02:59
KaoticEvilok, well thanks for the info bipolar :)02:59
bipolareveryone in the windows world thinks you need a lot of power to do that stuff....02:59
bipolarno prob02:59
KaoticEviloff hand, do ya know if theres a module for 3dfx cards?02:59
bipolarhmmm.... I don't know. there is an X driver IIRC02:59
KaoticEvili know in xorg.conf, its says exactly the card i have now...02:59
KaoticEvilyeah?02:59
KaoticEvilhmmm... ill have to do some more research.. atm, tho, i gotta go hang some clothes :P03:00
bipolaryeah. I think so. I don't know how much better it would be then the vesa driver though.03:00
bipolarhave fun :P03:00
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_siljehi everyone. Do some people know how to install java, and get it work with firefox03:04
KaoticEvilsun's java package name is j2re-1.403:07
_siljeKaoticEvil: Will it "just work" with firefox, or do i have to make some config?03:07
KaoticEvildunno03:07
KaoticEvillemme try it :)03:07
KaoticEvili just installed it this morning heh03:08
_siljeoki:)03:08
KaoticEvili wish my DNS servers werent so slow o.o03:09
bipolarI'm trying to upgrade a breezy box to kde 3.5.1 from kubuntu.org. when I try to install kubuntu-desktop I get a dependancy error.03:09
_silje:P03:09
bipolarlibpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (=0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is to be installed03:10
bipolarI think that dependancy needs to be >= not =03:10
KaoticEvilbipolar: installing kubuntu-desktop wont give you kde3.5.1, afaik...03:10
KaoticEvil!kde3.503:11
ubotu(you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".03:11
bipolarKaoticEvil: I added the sources lines for it03:11
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bipolarKaoticEvil: and it doesn't have kde now...03:11
KaoticEvilodd03:11
KaoticEvil_silje: it "just works" :)03:12
KaoticEvilall you should have to do is "sudo apt-get install j2re-1.4"03:12
_siljeKaoticEvil: Great03:13
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Abdul_Mueidhey bipolar03:14
_siljeKaoticEvil: Couldnt find the package03:14
Abdul_Mueidu there?03:15
bipolaryeah03:15
bipolaris it working?03:15
Abdul_Mueidyup03:16
bipolargood03:16
Abdul_MueidSo far my installation is perfect03:17
Abdul_Mueidall hard-drives detected, network folders working, my Nokia is working03:17
bipolaris there a way to tell apt to ignore dependancys?03:18
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Abdul_MueidI guess there is03:18
bipolarI can't find it....03:18
Abdul_MueidI haven't used ubuntu for a long time now03:18
bipolaronly for dpkg03:18
Abdul_Mueidletme also search03:19
Abdul_Mueidanyway, why would you want to do that?03:19
Abdul_Mueidtry this switch: --ignore-depends03:20
bipolarI've got a packaging problem....03:20
bipolarnot a valid option03:20
tijn_whats wrong with your package? :)03:20
bipolartijn_: not mine... kubuntu's03:21
tijn_oow :D03:21
Abdul_Mueidlol03:22
Abdul_Mueidbipolar: the -f switch seems to ignore all the dependenciess and force the install03:22
bipolartijn_: libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is to be installed03:22
KaoticEviloh, _silje.. my apologies...03:23
bipolartijn_: this is with the 3.5.1 packages for brezzy03:23
tijn_ah03:23
KaoticEvilits j2re1.403:23
KaoticEvilsorry about that03:23
tijn_apt-get install -f doesnt fix it?03:23
bipolarnope03:23
KaoticEvili need to get some sleep...03:24
KaoticEvilill see yall later.. and thanks again bipolar :)03:24
tijn_take mine03:24
tijn_he03:24
bipolarIf I could find out exactly where the package was I could use dpkg to force it.03:24
bipolarbut I cant even get apt to download it.03:24
bipolaralways complains about the broken package03:25
Abdul_Mueidwhat's the name of the package?03:25
bipolar^^ see up... libpoppler...03:25
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zax1for some reason my resolutio is restricted to 640x480 ?03:26
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zax1any idea how i can redetect available resolutions ?03:26
Abdul_Mueidzax1: change it in xorg.conf03:26
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bipolarzax1: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server03:26
Abdul_Mueidbipolar: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/poppler/libpoppler0c2-qt_0.5.0-0ubuntu5_i386.deb03:26
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zax1bipolar where do i type that?03:28
bipolarAbdul_Mueid: thats the dapper version. this is a brezzy box :\03:28
bipolarzax1: in a terminal.... use sudo03:28
bipolarzax1: hit alt+F1, login as yourself, then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server'03:29
zax1ok03:29
Abdul_Mueidbipolar: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libpoppler0c2-qt03:29
_siljesudo apt-get install j2re-1.4, it says that it cant find the package03:30
_siljehow can i install java that works with mozilla?03:30
_siljeisnt it a bin file for it?03:30
zax1i dont have it installe bipolar03:30
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Abdul_Mueidgtg.. cYa'll03:32
Abdul_Mueidbye03:32
bipolarthat was the problem... the package had an update in 'security' and that repo was not set up03:33
bipolardoh!03:33
bipolarzax1: let me check something...03:33
Skrot_silje: Try sudo apt-get update first, and then sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 :)03:34
bipolarzax1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:34
bipolarzax1: sorry, wrong package name :)03:35
Skrot_silje: Or you could do it the debian way, by building your own .deb from SUN's .bin (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142)03:35
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_david!xcfg03:36
uboturumour has it, xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:36
tijn_never trust rumours!03:37
pulverwhat's the best app to use for video conference between 2 kubuntu systems?03:38
zax1heheh03:40
zax1hat was fun03:40
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zax1thanks bipolar, its probably too advnaced for the likes of me, but eventualy got to that place about hte esolution03:40
bipolarzax1: see if it works.03:41
zax1its restarting now03:41
bipolarzax1: the default answers are what ubuntu had autodetected on install.03:41
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zax1after hiting ctrl-alt- bckspace nothing happened so i restarted03:42
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zax1bipolar, it will not boot up now, it hangs at : * checking battery power03:46
bipolarzax1: :\03:46
zax1indeed03:46
bipolarzax1: configuring X has nothing to do with that... hmmm03:46
bipolarzax1: boot into recovery and try it again I guess...03:46
zax1how do i boot in to recovery ?03:47
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bipolarzax1: at the grub menu there is a selection for it03:48
zax1what is a grub menu03:48
zax1my unit just fires up in to the linux booting thingie03:49
bipolargrub is the bootloader. it's the first thing that comes up after post.03:49
bipolar"hit any key to enter grub" or some such when it's booting. only lasts a few sec...03:49
zax1and by the way, it seems that it does have somehting to do with this xorg, i am looking at ubuntu support and readiung bout other peeps with booting errors after messing with X03:50
zax1right will give it a go03:50
bipolarsure... it might not boot all the way to X, but stopping where it did is strange...03:50
zax1http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77588.html03:51
zax1its also stuck at battery state...03:51
bipolarzax1: are you using the nvidia driver?03:52
zax1i think i am, ys03:52
zax1i have nvidia geforce mx400003:52
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moronihi04:12
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zax1bipolar, dou have any idea how to fix this ?04:15
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_usamahi all04:16
_usamaplz help me http://pastebin.com/58194204:16
bipolarzax1: no idea. were you able to get into recovery mode?04:16
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zax1yes04:17
zax1but then what , i tryed running the dpkg command again04:17
zax1to return every thing to the default04:17
zax1and it still hangs04:17
cringousbrHello, I have a corrupted OpenOffice Spreadsheet file, the message was "Format error discovered in the file in sub-document content.xml...". Any hints ?04:18
bipolarare you using the nvidia binary only driver or the default?04:18
trappistcringousbr: you're probably screwed, but unzip your file and you'll see content.xml and you can check it out with a text editor04:18
bipolarcringousbr: if it's corupted, rename it to .zip and unzip it.04:18
zax1i dont know bipolar04:18
zax1i used what ever came by default on ubuntu04:19
bipolarzax1: then you're using the default. :)04:19
cringousbrYes, I did it. But it have 15MB.04:19
zax1but...04:19
zax1then the resolution was capped at 640:48004:19
Borelia!ntfs04:19
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions04:19
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zax1followed a ling from uboto about fixing resolution, to download something from synaptic04:19
zax1but to be honest i dont know what i did04:19
bipolarzax1: there is something I don't know about your config... it should be like that by default04:20
zax1just "was following orders"04:20
bipolar*shouldn't04:20
zax1hmmm04:20
zax1and now this hanging04:20
linuxboyfriendl04:20
bipolarzax1: open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and go to the "Device" section.04:21
cringousbrbipolar: I unzipped the ODS and edited it on a text editor04:22
cringousbrbipolar: but I can't find the error, it is in line 2, column 5502072.04:23
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bipolarcringousbr: I've never had one corupted on me. I don't know where to begin.04:24
bipolarzax1: I need to know what driver you are using for sure.04:24
cringousbrbipolar: Ok, thanks.04:24
rednaxelcringousbr, how big was your spreadsheet?04:24
zax1how can i tell ?04:25
zax1oh hang on04:25
zax1could it be nvidia-glx ?04:25
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bipolarzax1: you need to open /etc/X11/xorg and go to the "Device" section.04:25
zax1is that a driver name?04:25
bipolarzax1: it will be either "nvidia" or "nv"04:25
cringousbrMy content.xml file has 15mb04:25
bipolarzax1: thats the driver package, yes.04:26
zax1ok04:26
bipolarzax1: for the nvidia binary driver....04:26
bipolarzax1: here... do this...04:27
bipolarzax1: run 'grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf'04:27
zax1any sudos or any thing ?04:27
bipolardon't need it for that04:27
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zax1ok just a sec04:28
bipolarzax1: just tell me if there is an "nv" or an "nvidia" there...04:29
zax1yes04:29
zax1the last one is nvidia04:29
zax1(sorry was on the phone)04:29
bipolaris there an nv there too or not?04:29
zax1no, just nvidia,kbd,mouse04:30
bipolargood04:30
bipolarthat is the nvidia binary driver.04:30
bipolarlspci | grep -i nvidia << run that now04:30
zax1so what can i do with it?04:30
zax1k04:31
zax1big list04:31
bipolarerr....04:31
bipolarshould only be one line....04:32
bipolardon't forget the pipe "|"04:32
zax1about 1504:32
bipolaryou should only get one line from that. you mistyped something.04:33
zax1memory controller 504:33
zax1isa bridge 104:33
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zax1its all related to nvidia04:33
bipolaroh... crap04:33
zax1they all have nvidia in them(evn the usb hub - oddly enough)04:33
bipolarlet me guess... nforce chipset....04:33
bipolartry this lspci | grep VGA04:34
zax11 liner04:34
bipolargood. paste that one line here04:34
zax1cant paste, will type04:34
bipolarok04:35
zax10000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)04:36
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bipolarok04:36
zax1just a sec04:36
zax1brb04:36
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bipolarzax1: ok. I know what driver you need.... when you get back I'll walk you though it.04:38
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Trg_kan_[works] hi04:40
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zax1back04:40
Trg_kan_[works] can someone helps me?04:40
bipolarzax1: run this.....(typing)04:40
zax1k04:40
Trg_kan_[works] i have kubuntu installed on the virtual pc, but once connected on windows xp and configured up the connection board, i can't to go to internet on kubuntu in the virtual pc04:40
Trg_kan_[works] why?04:40
Trg_kan_[works] please help me :(04:41
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bipolarsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`04:41
bipolarTrg_kan_[works] : thats not an kubuntu problem. it's a virtual pc one.04:41
jjesseTrg_kan_[works] :  did you setup your vm to bridge eth0?  what is the ip address that your vm is geting?04:42
bipolarTrg_kan_[works] : you need to set up a bridged network for your VM guests.04:42
Trg_kan_[works] ???04:42
Trg_kan_[works] how can i set up bridge?04:42
bipolarTrg_kan_[works] : this is the wrong channel for that. it's a VPC issue04:42
Trg_kan_[works] i use microsoft virtual pc04:42
Trg_kan_[works] uff..04:43
Trg_kan_[works] bye04:43
bipolarTrg_kan_[works] : need to check your docs04:43
bipolaridiot04:43
zax1nvidia-glx already newest version04:43
bipolarzax1: what about the modules? are they installed?04:43
zax1E: couldnt find package restricted-modules-unam -r04:43
bipolarzax1: those are '`'04:44
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bipolarit's the key with the ~04:44
zax1yes i put them , no space right ?04:44
KaoticEvilbipolar: the vesa driver works :)04:44
bipolarnope.04:44
bipolarKaoticEvil: cool04:44
bipolarlinux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`04:44
zax1only after the "uname"04:44
bipolarright04:44
KaoticEvilwish i could get the glide driver to work tho :(04:44
zax1yeah that what i typed04:45
zax1it said:04:45
zax1nvidia-glx already newest version04:45
zax1E: couldnt find package restricted-modules-unam -r04:45
bipolarzax1: you mistyped something... look over the line again04:45
zax1ok04:45
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zax1no, same thing. only in the error message it omits the " ' "04:47
zax1reading and building is done04:48
zax1nvidia-glx already newest version04:48
bipolarrun uname -r04:48
bipolaryou get something like 2.6.12-10-68604:49
zax12.6.12.10.38604:49
bipolarthe backticks mean that it puts the output of that command into the line.04:49
bipolarso when you type apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`04:49
bipolarit sees linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-68604:50
zax1i hae 386 at the end not 68604:50
bipolarthats fine.04:50
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bipolarbut if it's complaing about not finding linux-restricted-modules-uname... then you're missing the backticks....`04:50
zax1i just typed the 2.6.12-10-38604:51
zax1anditran to the end04:51
bipolarok. so it installed it?04:51
zax1yeah04:52
zax1( ithink so)04:52
bipolarok. run "modprobe nvidia"04:52
bipolarwithout the quotes04:52
zax1k04:52
bipolarany output?04:52
zax1no04:52
bipolargood04:52
bipolarnow just run X04:52
bipolartype in "X" and hit enter.04:53
bipolarcapitol X :)04:53
_adamhey room...can I ask you guys where to get and how to install both w32codecs and libdvdcss in kubuntu...go easy Im new04:53
zax1i am still in the recovery window04:53
zax1i got fatal error04:53
bipolarzax1: what was the error?04:53
bipolarline that starts with (EE)04:53
zax1no screens found04:53
bipolarbah04:53
zax1yeah04:53
bipolarnow... run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' again04:54
zax1ee failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! please ensure that htere is supporte NNVIDIA GPU...04:54
bipolarbah!04:54
bipolarhold on a min....04:54
ccc__adam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:54
_adamthanks ccc04:54
bipolarzax1: run "lsmod | grep nvidia"04:54
zax1ccc_ : its all your fault04:55
zax1k04:55
bipolarlol04:55
zax1nvidia_agp    7963 104:55
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zax1nvidia   3923004 004:55
ccc_zax1: :O ... what is?04:55
bipolarzax1: ok.... it is loaded... wtf....04:56
bipolarzax1: reboot the box. see if it boots up on it's own now04:56
zax1agpgart   32328 2 nvidia_agp,nvidia04:56
zax1ccc_, the fact that i am beeing out bid on the house i am trying to buy04:56
zax1ok04:56
bipolarhahaha04:56
zax1do i need to save anything ?04:56
bipolarnope.04:56
zax1ccc_, and the fact that my display is all out of wack!04:57
ccc_zax1: hehe, oh that. sorry, but all i did was to ask the bot to tell you about "ndivia". that's standard procedure concerning 3d driver install.04:59
ccc_nvidia*04:59
bipolarzax1: let me know if it starts up04:59
zax1i will do04:59
zax1its back to checking battery state05:00
bipolarhangs?05:00
zax1does that silly machine not know i have a desktop not a lap top05:00
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bipolarI bet it has to do with the nforce chipset...05:00
bipolarhmmmm05:02
bipolarmaybe turning of acpi will help...05:02
bipolarok05:03
bipolarzax1: this is a little bit more complicated....05:03
bipolarzax1: boot into recovery mode again.05:03
zax1ok05:04
zax1i have 2 modes : 2.6.12-10-38605:05
zax1and05:05
zax1i have 2 modes : 2.6.12-9-38605:05
zax1loging in to 10 ?05:05
bipolar10 recovery05:06
zax1coming up - really takes a long time to pass [.....]  NET: registering protocol family 1705:07
bipolarzax1: hmm... it's not hung though?05:07
zax1no05:08
zax1i am ready05:08
zax1type away05:08
bipolarnano /boot/grub/menu.lst05:08
bipolarer... sudo that05:09
zax1k05:09
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bipolarare you in?05:10
zax1yup05:10
bipolarok. scroll down until the commented lines end...05:10
bipolarall the #'s are commented lines05:10
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bipolarfind the first line that says "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10.... yada yada....."05:11
zax1there is nothing there05:11
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zax1i have a blank black screen05:12
bipolarzax1: :\05:12
zax1and at the bottom (above a few commands) i have newfile05:12
bipolarzax1: ctrl+x to exit05:12
zax1ok05:12
bipolarzax1: you mistyped the file name I think05:12
bipolarzax1: "nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" << thats .LST05:12
zax1sorry - you are most patiant with me and iam mocking about05:13
zax1i am in there now05:13
bipolarthats ok. we were all new once05:13
zax1:)05:14
bipolarI was new 12 years ago :)05:14
zax1geez05:14
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bipolarstarted on Slackware on a brand new 386 sx 25mhz05:14
zax1no gui i imagine ?05:15
bipolarno, I got X running on it, eventualy.05:15
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bipolarI didn't have an internet connection either :P05:16
zax1no wonder u have bipolar05:16
bipolarspent days just staring at it trying to figure out how it worked, reading a linux book.05:16
bipolarheh... anyway... I degress....05:16
zax1i have a few rows of that line you gave me05:17
bipolarI was 13/14 years old... it was worth it >:)05:17
zax1it looks like the grub bootmanager05:17
bipolaryep05:17
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zax1i recogise the otions05:17
trappistI should give my kid a box like that.  so spoiled.05:17
zax1dont be mean,05:17
bipolartrappist: heh... yeah. we're all spoiled now :)05:17
zax1but i hve an apple IIc here if you want05:17
bipolarlol05:17
zax1you'll despoil him, and with style05:18
bipolarzax1: go to the first line that starts with kernal and ends with "splash"05:18
zax1ok05:18
trappistwhen she grows up she's gonna be telling her kids "when I was your age, we measured hard drives in GIGABYTES" to the child's shock and amazement05:18
bipolarput acpi=off at the end of it.05:18
zax1...hda1 roquiet splash05:18
bipolarso it will read 'hda1 ro quiet splash acpi=off'05:19
zax1done05:19
bipolarthen ctrl+o to save (say yes to overwrite)05:19
bipolarthen ctrl+x to exit05:19
bipolarnow when you reboot, it should disable the acpi stuff.05:20
zax1reboot then ?05:20
bipolarthats the power management stuff05:20
bipolaryep.05:20
bipolarand just let it boot.05:20
bipolardamned buggy nvidia crap....05:20
zax1let it boot....listen to you... one might think i attempted to interfere :(05:21
bipolarthey should have stuck to making video cards05:21
bipolarlol05:21
zax1that is a video card05:21
bipolarI was being positive.... "let it boot" instead of "see if it boots"05:21
zax1i know, jst venting05:21
bipolarright. but nvidia also makes the chipset on your motherboard.05:21
bipolarthats why that lspci | grep nvidia showed so many things.05:22
zax1true05:22
zax1what is the grep command ?05:22
bipolargrep searches for a string.05:22
bipolarso lspci shows everything... pipe it to grep looking for nvidia... just shows lines that have nvidia in them05:22
zax1lspci searchs for all the pcis and grep takes out only the nvidia ?05:22
bipolaryep :)05:23
zax1;)05:23
zax1smart this linux command line05:23
bipolarthe command line in linux is exreamly powerful05:23
zax1here you'll be happy to know05:23
bipolartell me you got a login.... (crosses fingers)05:24
zax1that it stops at the exact same annoying place right after *checking battery state....05:24
bipolarpos05:24
zax1now , i might have been misleading here05:24
zax1see when i say hangs05:24
bipolardoes it eventualy make it though?05:24
zax1it kinda hangs there, and not go any further, but when i hit ctrl+alt+del it reboots ok, so it still takes in keyboard commands05:25
zax1no, no05:25
zax1it doesnt go through05:25
bipolarhmmm... let it boot normaly... then hit Ctrl+C there when it hangs.05:25
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zax1so that would be now05:25
zax1?05:25
zax1its been there 2 min05:26
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zax1ctrl +C  - no effect05:27
noteventimeCould someone tell me how to use aiglx?05:27
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JakubSlike any other x server05:27
bipolarzax1: hmmm.....05:27
noteventimeJakubS: Is there a way to make an option in KDM?05:28
zax1bipolar05:28
bipolarzax1: ok. reboot. get to the grub menu again. this time we'll check the boot line....05:28
zax1ok05:28
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bipolargrub menu = the one where you select "recovery" not the text file we were editing...05:29
DevGetWhy will a dist-upgrade remove openoffice and kubuntu-desktop?05:29
bipolarDevGet: Dapper?05:29
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DevGetyes05:30
JakubSnoteventime: i think /etc/X11/X symlinks points to x server that should be used05:30
bipolarDevGet: broken packages. just do a regular upgrade05:30
noteventimeJakubS: Ok, thanks a lot05:30
zax1if this was windows  i would have removed the driver and reinstall05:30
trappistDevGet: I just submitted a bug on that05:30
DevGetok05:30
zax1would something similar work for this case05:30
bipolarzax1: yeah... there is no graphical fallback in linux. I wish there was.05:30
bipolarzax1: besides, I don't think the two problems are the same.05:31
zax1righ05:31
zax1so u think the booting is seperate to the resolution and the vvidia card ?05:31
zax1i am at the command prompt05:31
bipolarzax1: err... the grub menu?05:32
JakubSbipolar: hmm, maybe script that gets exit code from xorg and if it is error then relaunches xorg with another config file using vesa driver?05:32
zax1no root@ubuntu:~#05:32
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JakubSsomething like Xorg || Xorg -config /etc/X11/fallback.conf05:32
bipolarJakubS: Thats what I was thinking....05:33
zax1oh that s the key that was supodsed to envelope uname.....` as oppsed to '05:33
bipolarzax1: ok... while we're here....05:33
bipolarzax1: yep :)05:33
zax1forgot about that one....05:33
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zax1ok, so where do i go ?05:34
bipolarcd /etc/rc2.d05:35
bipolarrm *acpi-support05:35
JakubSbipolar: maybe there is already a fallback05:35
zax1no responce to that last line05:36
bipolarthats fine05:36
bipolartry 'ls *acpi*'05:36
JakubSchanged "i810" to "ati" in xorg.conf and it just used vesa after ati driver failed05:36
zax1light blue   -   S10acpid05:37
bipolarcool05:37
bipolarreboot and try again :)05:37
bipolarwe just disabled the script that was checking the battery :)05:37
zax1what did you do ?05:37
zax1oh05:38
zax1dd we05:38
bipolarlight blue is a link. the script is in /etc/init.d... the link to it in /etc/rc2.d gets run when booting in runlevel 2, which is the default.05:38
bipolarby removing the link, we basicly told it "don't run this script in runlevel 2"05:39
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bipolarbrb05:39
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bipolarback05:42
JakubSwhy the hell kubuntu uses runlevel 2 for gui anyway? it is 5 normally05:43
bipolarJakubS: only in redhat versions.05:43
bipolarJakubS: debian has always used 205:43
trappistJakubS: the runlevels in *ubuntu and debian are not what you're used to05:43
trappistor what I'm used to05:43
trappistI liked the redhat/mandrake/suse way better05:43
trappistbut I'm still glad I switched :)05:43
JakubSwell, i would be glad if ubuntu dropped sysvinit altogether - it is damn slow05:43
trappistJakubS: hell yeah, join the "alternative init system" thread I started on the ml05:44
trappistsounder and ubuntu-devel05:44
bipolarzax1: hows it going?05:44
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trappistJakubS: I'm recommending runit-run05:45
JakubSi used initng for some time - it is much faster but it was quite a chore keeping it in working state between upgrades05:45
zax1no good05:45
bipolarzax1: what is it doing?05:45
JakubSbut i can't get suspend to work so startup time is quite important for me05:45
zax1its hanging now at *starting periodic command scheduler05:45
bipolarwtf05:45
bipolarthis makes no sence05:46
zax1what your geo location?05:46
trappistJakubS: sure could use your support on the ml.  I can't claim to care, since I reboot 2 or 3 times a year05:46
bipolareast PA, USA05:46
zax1oh...05:46
JakubStrappist: lucky one05:46
zax1i would have invited you for cofgee to sort it out, but alas...05:46
zax1u r too far05:46
bipolarwhere are you?05:47
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zax1NI05:47
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zax1northern ireland05:47
bipolarlol05:47
bipolaryeah... thats a bit far to drive :P05:47
bipolarany Linux User Groups local to you?05:47
zax1i dont know05:49
zax1i am quite new to this05:49
zax1so should i jusr reinstall it ?05:49
zax1its a brand new installation05:49
zax1it was05:49
bipolaryeah.05:50
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bipolartry downloading the latest dapper and see if that works better05:50
bipolarit's the development version and may support your hardware better.05:50
bipolarsorry I couldn't help more.05:50
zax1this is socket A its anciant05:50
zax1should easily be supported05:51
bipolargmmmm05:51
zax1well u gave it your best shot05:51
bipolarhmmm... even05:51
zax1and that what matters05:51
zax1it was very kind of you05:51
bipolarnp05:51
bipolarhttp://www.lug.org.uk/lugs/nireland.php05:51
zax1many thanks05:51
bipolarthere are a couple of LUGS05:51
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zax1no, they are crap05:54
zax1one is a space holder05:54
zax1another is still waiting for a meeting 5 years after its conception05:54
bipolarzax1: the derry mailing list is active05:55
bipolarzax1: http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/derry/05:55
bipolarzax1: scratch that...05:55
bipolarzax1: active this month... last month with any posts was september 0.o05:55
zax1scratched05:55
zax1this country is backwards in more ways then one05:56
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bipolarzax1: could be worse...05:57
zax1yeah  ,true05:57
zax1this week have been busy, and nothing goes my way05:57
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bipolarzax1: how about http://www.belfastlinux.org/wiki/Main_Page05:59
zax1u r a resourceful man06:00
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bipolarremember... it's not what you know... its if you know how to find out what you need to know :)06:01
mijndertbipolar, that's what i learn at school these days :+06:05
mijndertsome teachers think it's really stupid heh06:05
bipolarI'm glad I was homeschooled :)06:05
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zax1were you06:06
zax1good man06:06
bipolaryeah... from 8th though graduation06:06
zax1i was borugh t up in boarding schol06:07
zax1a kibbuts if that mewans anything ot you06:07
bipolarI'm not familure with the term.06:07
zax1good thing you are an experiances google user ;)06:07
bipolarzax1: jewish?06:08
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zax1yup06:08
bipolarheh... got ti06:08
bipolarAn Israeli collective farm. Once important in the development of Israel, kibbutzim now represent less than two percent of the population.06:09
bipolarso it was a communal settlement of sorts?06:09
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zax1misses the point, its the purest form of comunism, what the USSR should have been, if you like06:09
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bipolaryeah. I get it. cool.06:10
zax1but then again06:10
zax1i missed the point as well06:10
zax1its not for me06:10
bipolarheh...06:10
zax1its not for most of my generation06:10
angasulewhy, when I click on a link, the default action is to open it? I'm not given the option to download it06:10
bipolarUnder capitolisom, man dominates man... in socalisim... it's the other way around06:10
bipolar:)06:11
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trpr42bipolar: isn't that a fun circle ;)06:11
bipolarangasule: right click06:11
mijndertMicrosoft dominates us \o/06:11
angasulebipolar: doesn't work06:11
bipolarangasule: you don't get a "save link as" option?06:11
bipolarangasule: give us the URL06:12
angasulebipolar: I mean from any program, not just konqueror06:12
bipolarangasule: oh... well, that would be in the programs options then06:12
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angasulebipolar: also, if I place a link in the konqueror address bar, it opens it, it doesn't give the option to download06:12
bipolarangasule: I always use wget for things like that.06:13
angasulebipolar: congratulations, that doesn't mean it's working fine06:13
bipolarangasule: I'm afraid you'll have to take it up with the developers of the software. if's its a kde app, join #kde.06:14
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bipolarheh06:14
bipolaryou're welcome... asshat06:14
zax1right off i go06:15
zax1bipolar - again many thanks06:15
bipolargood luck. maybe someone in that lug could help you?06:15
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Flying_Eaglehi06:17
bipolarhiya06:17
Flying_Eaglemy one harddisc is dying, so i installed another kubuntu-"instance" (which im using now) on the other one06:17
Flying_Eagleto migrate all the apps from kubuntu-old to kubuntu-new i wanna do sth like: cp -a /media/hdxy/var/cache/apt/archives/* /var/cache/apt/archives/06:19
Flying_Eaglefollowed by a: cd var/cache/apt/archives/06:19
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Flying_Eaglefollowed by: dpkg -i *06:19
Flying_Eagleshould that work?06:19
bipolareeek... no06:19
Flying_Eaglebipolar: so whats the correct procedure?06:20
bipolaris the old drive still good, just getting flaky?06:20
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Flying_Eagleyes06:20
Flying_Eaglesome errors in the kernel-region06:20
bipolarFlying_Eagle: maybe you could copy the file system then.06:20
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bipolarlet me think about how to do that....06:20
Flying_Eaglecp -a /media/hdxy/* /media/hdyz on a live-cd?06:21
bipolarI would use tar. you need to preserve everything, including links06:22
Flying_Eagleok. actually thats not what i want to do, cause im pretty sure, that this will lead to errors06:23
bipolarFlying_Eagle: ok06:24
Flying_Eaglemy idea is, that some often used regions of the hd, like the ones where the modules or often used system-utilities are placed have gone byebye06:24
bipolarthen... use dpkg to get a list of the installed packages.06:24
bipolarthen pipe that list to apt06:25
Flying_Eaglee.g. gunzip isnt working anymore06:25
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Flying_Eagledpkg -l|apt-get install ?06:25
bipolarer... you'll need to get a cleaner list then dpkg -l gives you... but thats the idea06:26
Flying_Eagleok... *studying manpage*06:26
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Flying_Eaglethats the cleanest output i could find, bipolar: dpkg --get-selections06:29
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noteventime'ello again, thanks for the help with aiglx :) works great06:30
nistelalguien me ayuda?06:30
nistelacabo de instalarme kubuntu06:30
Flying_Eagleand why cant i just dpkt -i all the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives?06:30
Flying_Eaglenistel: i think, this is the english-channel06:30
noteventime!es06:30
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:30
noteventime!pr06:31
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime06:31
nistelthanks06:31
noteventimeNP :)06:31
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rysiek|plshit, anybody knows how to start a WAR in FreeCiv? :] 06:32
noteventimeBah, I cant hey these annoying bootsplashes to work06:32
noteventime!usplash06:32
ubotuI heard usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto06:32
bipolarFlying_Eagle: I'm not good with sed, but I think it would be possible to clean it up06:32
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Flying_Eagleok -_-06:33
Flying_Eagleill write a python-script :D06:34
rysiek|plnoteventime: trying to get mine to work, too06:34
rysiek|plno success as yet, though - I'm using vga=791 (that's 1024x768x16bpp)06:34
noteventimerysiek|pl: Hehe, good tp know I'm not alone :P06:34
bipolarFlying_Eagle: got it.06:35
noteventimerysiek|pl: Have you managed to convert to 16bit png?06:35
bipolarFlying_Eagle: /msg dpkg selections :)06:35
rysiek|plas far as I know, it has to be an indexed, 16-colour png06:35
rysiek|plwhen I try to run the programs from USplashCustomizationHowTo on anything else than 16colour png - gives me an error06:36
noteventimeok06:37
bipolarFlying_Eagle: get that?06:38
noteventimeDo you know if/how i can change the grubbackground?06:38
rysiek|playe, that's easy :)06:38
bipolarnoteventime: yeah. in the grub config there is a line for it06:38
noteventimeI know, but what format is it?06:39
noteventimec?06:39
rysiek|plnoteventime: gimme a sec, I'll get you all info I have ;)06:39
bipolarnoteventime: png I think06:39
rysiek|plnope, it's XPM.GZ06:39
noteventimehehe, thanks06:39
bipolarha06:39
noteventimeHow do i create an gz XPM?06:39
Flying_Eaglebipolar: "dpkg selections" doesnt work...06:39
bipolarnoteventime: the Gimp06:39
rysiek|plwith GIMP, of course :] 06:40
bipolarFlying_Eagle: did you see what the bot said?06:40
Flying_Eagleno06:40
bipolar<dpkg> it has been said that ffs copy is run "dpkg --get-selections > foo.txt" on the source, copy foo.txt to the destination and run "dpkg --set-selections < foo.txt ; apt-get -u dselect-upgrade" on the destination.06:40
noteventimehhe, yes i judt didnt know GIMP had that format :P06:40
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bipolarnoteventime: gimp will create the .xpm, then use gzip to compress I'd guess.06:41
bipolarlol06:41
noteventimeok06:41
bipolarmake sure you figure out what dementions it's looking for06:41
rysiek|plbipolar, noteventime: actually, there is an option of gzipping the images by GIMP itself :)06:42
bipolarthere ya go. :P06:42
rysiek|pljust append a .xpm.gz extension to the filename06:42
rysiek|pland it should do it by itself06:42
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rysiek|plI'm looking for the dimensions for you06:42
noteventimeok, thanks06:43
rysiek|pl90-60-90... hmmm, nope, that's not it, I suppose. ;)06:43
Flying_Eagleim gonna shudown kde, while upgrading to 3.5.1... brb06:43
Kolizzhi all! i'm having serious problems installing kubuntu. at some points of the installation it just fails "with error code 1". sometimes it works when i retry it and sometimes it fucks up totally. tried ubuntu breezy, kubuntu breezy. kubuntu dapper drake installed but i dont want to use it. tried seatools too, it just freezes once i start a test. checking the hdd in another computer using seatools worked and returned no errors. anyone got a clue w06:43
henrikegibs den kram auch in deitsch ???06:43
henrikeh ???06:43
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Dasnipa`!de06:44
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de06:44
rysiek|plnoteventime: a great howto on GRUB splashimages: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/#1.006:44
rysiek|pl(goes directly to the dimensions ;) )06:45
rysiek|plhave fun. remember to make a backup! :)06:45
noteventimethanks06:45
rysiek|plnop. do it and get back here, so that we can hack the usplash thingy :)06:45
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Flying_Eaglegood ol' irssi06:49
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puckmanAnyone installed dapper yet?06:52
Flying_Eagleno. it freezes my keyboard06:52
zax1bipolar, r u still about?06:53
rysiek|plI think you've asked that question before, haven't you, puckman? :)06:53
puckmanhehehe06:53
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puckmanMighthave06:53
rysiek|plcought red-handed :)06:53
rysiek|pland still no help with the usplash. dammit.06:53
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noteventimehmm :/06:54
noteventimeThat wasnt very nice X)06:55
noteventimewell, brb06:55
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puckmanfuck it, downloading it now06:56
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puckmanaaah there we go, in 20 min I will have my cd image06:56
Flying_Eaglejust out of interest: what can you do with that bot and to which www-sources is it connected?06:58
bipolarzax1: yep06:59
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Flying_Eagleyeeha! everything went fine07:03
bipolarFlying_Eagle: awesome07:03
bipolarcan someone please type in my nick so I can make sure my notifications in konverstation are working right?07:04
Flying_Eaglebipolar:07:05
puckmanbipolar:07:05
puckmanbipolar:07:05
bipolarnot workin'07:05
puckmanbipolar:07:06
bipolaroh, there they are.07:06
puckmanmine works07:06
Flying_Eaglewhat about bipolar surrounded by spaces?07:06
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bipolarthey are showing up on my laptop screen. which I use as #2.07:06
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bipolarok. please try again :)07:07
Flying_Eaglelinux is just cool. imagine what i had done, if i had to rescue a windows-system07:07
Flying_Eaglethis procedure took me 10 minutes in research and some more while executing it.07:08
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noteventimeok I'm back :)07:08
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_adamcan someone explain to me why my adsl connection is working but I cannot connect to any of the repositories in Adept?07:09
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noteventimeThe GRUB image didn't work very well :(07:09
noteventimeI got a part of my image in a few red lines below the menu :(07:11
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rysiek|plnoteventime: hmmm... at least You got the image working in GRUB, anyway ;)07:15
bipolar_I hear bipolar is a moron :P07:15
bipolarshutup n00b!07:15
rysiek|plI would try to read this tutorial once more, and *slowly* ;)07:15
rysiek|plit has to be something with the image itself07:16
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noteventimenope, grub didnt work either :P07:17
noteventimesame prob07:17
rysiek|plare you *sure* it has the proper dimensions and palette? (I myself fell for that one when making the GRUBsplash)07:17
rysiek|pl?07:17
rysiek|plwhat prob?07:17
noteventimeI see a part of the image in red stripes below the menu, 14 colors 640x48007:17
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bipolar_bipolar: are your notifications working yet?07:18
bipolarkindof07:18
bipolar_bipolar: wtf is wrong with them?07:18
zax1sorry bipolar, offspring is home and she wont let me get on...the raskle,07:19
zax1i have reinstalled07:19
zax1and resolution at a max of 640x48007:19
bipolarbipolar_: nothing now... I don't need you any more! get lost!07:19
rysiek|plnoteventime: I would check if it's really 640x480, not 640x400 - it may be confusing07:19
bipolarheh07:19
rysiek|pland I would double-check the palette07:19
bipolarzax1: wow... ok. back to the xorg log07:19
zax1i just installed synaptic and download the K7 version of the nvidia drivers(since its a athlon)07:20
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noteventimeit's 640x48007:20
bipolarzax1: the nvidia kernel module needs to match your running kernel.07:20
rysiek|plnoteventime: if it still doesn't work - I'll post you a link to the image I use (and is working just fine) and give you what I have in my menu.lst07:20
tamerhi people! has anybody of you an idea how to enable the keyboard switcher on kde?!07:20
tamerdoesn't work for me07:20
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tamerDo I have to reconfigure the xorg server?07:21
bipolarzax1: so if you are running a 386 kernel, you need to use the 386 module.07:21
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bipolarzax1: or switch to the k7 kernel and module.07:21
tamerhallo?!07:21
tamerNobody can help me?! :(07:21
noteventimerysiek|pl: Thanks ^^,  It's 640x48007:22
noteventimetamer: Take it easy, have you been in region settings in kcontrol07:22
pulverhow do u change the background image for kdm?07:22
noteventimelogin manager07:22
noteventimein kcontrol07:22
tamerregions are german and arabic07:22
noteventimesystem -> login manager07:22
tamerI need the keaboard to be displayed in arabic07:22
noteventimetamer: Region -> keyboard layouts07:23
tamerI did, but he disable it automatically07:23
tamerIf I click the checkbox "Enable keyboard layouts" everything is empty and nothing is choosable07:23
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noteventimeIt works for me :(07:23
rysiek|plnoteventime: ok, gimme a sec, I'll put the image on my server07:24
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pulvernoteventime: thanks07:25
noteventimepuver: NP :)07:25
tamerHow do I reconfigure the xorg server?!07:26
tamerHas anybody of you an idea?07:26
noteventimeEdit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:26
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noteventimesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:27
noteventimeDunno if that last onw works though07:27
Nomad411I need to set up a PC for the 10 year-old son of my buddy.  Woul dedubuntu be a good choice for Internet child-safety?  Does anyone here know if there are built-in tools similar to net-nanny, etc?07:28
zax1bipolar, so i dont take the K& driver then, just the 386 ?07:28
bipolarzax1: right. or you can install the k7 kernel.07:28
zax1and do you reckon for the NV18is the right driver07:28
tamerthank you guys07:29
noteventimeNomad411: There is software availible like net-nanny, give me a minute and let me try to find one :)07:29
zax1k, well the 386 is what i installed earlier , when it all when capput07:29
noteventimetamer: Np07:29
bipolarzax1: acording to the package. everything higher then a gforce 2 is supported by that driver.07:29
bipolarzax1: there is a07:29
zax1thats what i thought07:29
bipolarzax1: there is a "legacy" driver for the older ones.07:29
zax1its a relatively new one07:30
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bipolarshould be fine.07:31
rysiek|plnoteventime: http://rysiek.ath.cx/stuff/grub_splash.tar.bz2 there you are07:31
bipolaryou havn't installed the new driver yet, have you?07:31
bipolarmaybe we should try bumping the resolution up before installing it.07:31
bipolarjust to see....07:31
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bipolarzax1: open up a terminal in X and run 'xrandr' and see what it tells you07:32
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bipolarzax1: maybe there are more modes you can switch too, although I doubt it... :\07:33
noteventimerysiekpl: Thanks07:33
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noteventimeNomad411: Take a look at this: http://dansguardian.org/?page=whatisdg07:33
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Apple7hello, i'm from Argentina07:33
rysiek|plno problem07:34
noteventime'ello07:34
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Apple7sorry by inglish07:34
zax1bipolar07:34
bipolar.07:34
zax1where do i type that in a terminal window?07:34
bipolaropen up konsole.07:35
bipolarclick on the K menu, then system, then konsole07:35
Apple7bipolar> are you Oscar?07:35
zax1i thought so, but it say cant open display, when i type xrandr07:35
bipolarApple7: nope.07:35
bipolarzax1: wow...thats weird07:35
Apple7Pk, sorry07:35
Apple7ok*07:35
bipolarzax1: you're not running it with sudo, are you?07:36
zax1sorry i typed it in a terminal i opened with ctrl alt F107:36
zax1its through your way07:36
zax1and i get just those 207:36
zax1640x480 and 320x24007:36
bipolarok.07:37
noteventimerysiek|pl: Ok, time to reboot07:37
bipolarhave you ever used ssh, zax1?07:37
Apple7i'm problem wicht Kubuntu07:37
zax1no07:37
zax1u want  to connect to my comp ?07:37
bipolarzax1: it would be easier.07:37
zax1i would like that, think we had enough foreplay.........07:38
bipolarzax1: all I need to access to port 22 on the kubuntu box07:38
bipolarlol07:38
bipolarzax1: do you know how to forward ports?07:38
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rysiek|plnoteventime: good luck :)07:38
zax1not on a linux box. can we do it in a private room, dont want the entire kubuntu room , to think i am easy, and try to get in as well07:39
bipolarlol07:39
Apple7ok, thanks by help me07:39
Apple7goodBye!07:39
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zax1the computer i a m on at the moment is a windows xp( can u see the IP ?)07:40
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bipolarzax1: I opened a query window to you. check your tabs07:40
rysiek|plnoteventime: and?..07:40
noteventime:D, your image worked like a dream07:40
zax1i saw it, but i cant private message07:40
rysiek|plyuppie KIA, man :)07:40
bipolaroh.... you'd need to register... bah07:40
zax1here, will u join kubuntu-il ?07:41
noteventimerysiek|pl: If i can't get my splash to work I'll keep yours :D07:41
rysiek|plbipolar, zax: create your own channel07:41
noteventimerysiek|pl: Very nice07:41
rysiek|plnoteventime: no problem, you can try to edit mine - that should help you :)07:41
noteventimeJust what I'm oing right now :)07:42
rysiek|plthx, it's made from a wallpaper I've found on kde-look.org07:42
rysiek|plnoteventime: open the image in GIMP and set vthe image mode to RGB first07:42
noteventimerysiek|pl: The thing I's I'm trying to get a consitant feel througout my boot :)07:42
rysiek|plor you'll be only able to work with the colours from the palette of my image ;)07:43
rysiek|plyep - me too :)07:43
jjesse_meetingtwo days ago i accessed a windows file share through konq and now every 5 minutes or so i'm being asked for username/password for the file share, can somoene help me out?07:43
rysiek|plI have a wallpaper like that, a KDM splash and KDM theme too07:43
rysiek|plnoteventime: now I'm trying to get USplash like that ;)07:43
noteventimeMe too :D07:43
rysiek|plthat makes the two of us, then :)07:44
noteventimerysiek|pl: Well, then we are in the same situation now :)07:44
noteventimeyep07:44
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rysiek|plok then, I'll post do some testing during the weekend and post a new thread on ubuntuforums for the usplash thingy07:45
noteventimeOk, new reboot :P07:46
rysiek|plnoteventime: hmmm... I've got an idea: can you send me (or publish it in the net somewhere) the image that *didn't* work for your GRUB?07:46
rysiek|plok, gluck ;)07:46
jjesseany thoughts for my issue?07:46
rysiek|pljjesse: no idea :/07:47
noteventimerysiek|pl: As soon as i'vev rebooted07:47
rysiek|plok07:47
rysiek|pljjesse: do you have this share in media:/ folder?07:47
jjesserysiek|pl: no i don't07:48
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rysiek|plo_O07:48
rysiek|plstrange07:48
rysiek|plso, let me get this straight: you are being prompted for a username and password for a Windows share every few mins?07:49
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jjesserysiek|pl: correct07:50
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noteventime:/07:50
noteventimeMine still doen't work :P07:50
noteventimedoesn't*07:50
rysiek|plnoteventime: ok, send me your file to mikiwoz (at) yahoo (dot) co (dot) uk07:50
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noteventimerysiek|pl: Sent, I know it says KDE 3.3 :P07:52
rysiek|pljjesse: no idea, really, sorry :/07:52
rysiek|plok07:52
noteventimeWhat is the problem?07:52
jjesserysiek|pl: thanks anyways07:52
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rysiek|pljjesse: try with noteventime ;)07:52
wimpiesdoes dapper have a kubunt install CD yet ? the one on the homepage claims that is not an installable version07:53
jjessefor me it is every couple of minutes i'm prompted for username/password to access a windows share i accessed two days aga07:53
noteventimeI'll do my best :)07:53
noteventimeOK..07:53
jjessethe live cd is currently not installable07:53
noteventimejjesse07:53
noteventimejjesse: You mean it doesn't accept your password/username?07:54
jjessenoteventime: yes?07:54
jjesseit accepts, but i'm not trying to access the share, it just keeps prompting me07:54
noteventimeahhh, At KDE startup?07:54
wimpiesjjesse : the website has different links for live and installable CD.  Are both the same ?07:54
jjessewimpies: they are currently different07:55
jjessenoteventime: nope as i'm working on kubuntu07:55
noteventimewimpies: Are you running breezy, if you are you can just upgrade to dapper.07:55
wimpieshttp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/07:55
noteventimejjesse: :S, maybe it starts an old konqueror session07:55
wimpiesyes but I have 3 rootkits installed and want to get rid of them and was considering to use dapper07:55
noteventimeok07:56
wimpiesthe above URL has different links ... live and install .  so the install is not yet read then ?07:56
noteventimejjesse: Try to disable "restore last session" in session manager07:57
noteventimerysiek|pl: Find anything odd?07:58
jjessesession manager in system settings?07:58
noteventimeyes, or kcontrol07:58
jjesseok trying that thanks noteventime07:59
rysiek|plnoteventime: yep, fixed, sent to you by email. :)07:59
noteventimerysiek|pl: Thanks ^^07:59
noteventimejjesse: Np07:59
rysiek|plnop ;)07:59
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rysiek|plwimples: nope, Dapper is not ready yet. Try Breezy instead, upgrading to Dapper is not difficult later on.08:00
noteventimeI thought i sis indexed when chanhing to 14 colors with convert :P08:00
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jjesseflight 4 runs pretty stable for me :)08:00
noteventimeThanks ^^08:00
rysiek|plmy pleasure ;)08:00
rysiek|pljjesse: yep, but it's not *officially* released as stable yet :)08:01
rysiek|plnoteventime: so now only the usplash left to be hacked ;)08:01
noteventimeyep :P08:02
noteventimerysiek|pl: Have you tried Xgl and/or aiglx?08:03
noteventimeWell, time for another reboot08:04
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Aapzakmornin' lads08:06
jjesseaftern Aapzak08:06
rysiek|pl!Xgl08:07
ubotuXGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/08:07
jjessedoes it work in kubuntu or is it a ubuntu only thing?'08:07
Aapzakxgl works in KDE as well, but much better in GNome08:08
Aapzakit was made for Gnome08:08
Aapzakso, Ubuntu08:08
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noteventimeyay08:09
rysiek|pl:)08:10
noteventimeWorks good, although I'll need to tweak the image a little08:10
rysiek|plgo for it. remember to switch to Mode -> RGB when changing the image, and then, before saving, to Indexed08:10
noteventimeyep08:10
rysiek|plas for Xgl - heard about it and waiting for it to be usable ;) but it really is something *very* interesting, I'd say08:11
Aapzakow, it is very useable08:11
rysiek|pl!aiglx08:11
uboturysiek|pl: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:11
Aapzakas long as you use gnome08:11
rysiek|plwhy GNOME?08:11
Aapzakbecause compiz replaces your window manager and you can't replace kwin as easely08:12
noteventimecompiz works good with KDE08:13
rysiek|plI am a KDEling, I don't like GNOME08:13
rysiek|plgreat :)08:13
rysiek|plthen I have to try the damn thing ;)08:13
AapzakI used it on KDE, but kmail didn't work and all konqueror windows appeared after the cube, not useable08:13
noteventimeuse gnome-window-decorator in KDE is nop08:13
rysiek|plbut AFTER i get usplash to behave nicely and AFTER I get HURD installed ;)08:13
noteventimeHURD?08:13
rysiek|pl!hurd08:13
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek|pl08:13
rysiek|plhttp://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html08:14
noteventimeaiglx is kinda like normal xorg but with compositing for effekts08:14
noteventimeIn my opinion Xgl is better but aiglx is more stable08:14
rysiek|plDebian/HURD is the first HURD distro, it's in the alpha stage, but it's a very interesting project08:14
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rysiek|plm'kay guys. gotta go watch a film or something - 'nuff sitting on IRC ;)08:15
noteventimebye08:15
rysiek|plcu all tomorrow, heavy usplash testing underway ;)08:15
noteventimehaha08:15
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echdevweird08:24
echdevwhen my laptop screen is closed08:24
echdevafter a while08:24
echdevI open it again and it doesn't turn back on08:24
echdev:(08:24
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noteventimeechdev: Does it go into stand by?08:26
noteventimeechdev: I'm having the same probem with standby since upgrading to dapper08:27
echdevi dont think so08:28
echdevim pretty sure I haven't enabled that08:29
echdevbut I close the lid and it's ok08:29
echdevif I close it and let it sit a while, it wont come back08:29
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noteventimeechdev: Hmm... Maybe it suspends after a while :/08:32
echdevmaybe08:33
echdevi was told ubuntu had this problem, but I never had it with my laptop08:33
echdevbut I am with kubuntu :o08:33
echdevbreezy badger08:34
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larsiviHas anyone installed the gutenprint drivers on Breezy?08:35
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Psi-JackBRB, gonna hit the router, see if it's gotten unstable or something.08:40
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ronaldson40Can i run Prince of Persia : The Two thrones on Kubuntu08:45
Aapzakcommon zaggy,08:46
noteventimeronaldson40: Depends, cedega might be able08:47
ronaldson40If i can run it wat should i install to run it08:47
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ronaldson40Is cadega paid08:47
noteventimeCedega, which isn't free, but you can always resort to p*r*a*c*08:47
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noteventime*cought*bittorrent*cough*08:48
ronaldson40wat is P*r*a*c08:48
noteventimepiracy :P08:48
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ronaldson40could u give me a link08:48
noteventimeops i messed the *08:48
ronaldson40sorry i thought it was software08:49
Psi-JackOr you can get cedega from CVS. :p08:49
noteventimeI don't think you can anymore :(08:49
Psi-JackYes, actually, you can.08:49
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ronaldson40so is cadega the only software for this08:49
Pwn3dhi any speak spanish08:49
Pwn3dplz08:49
Pwn3di need help08:49
larsivi!es08:50
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:50
noteventimeronaldson40: For games using DirectX, yes08:50
ronaldson40yes08:50
noteventimeronaldson40: For OpenGL games you can use wine, which cedega is based on..08:50
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ronaldson40k08:50
noteventimeronaldson40: I'll gave you a link in a few minutes08:51
ronaldson40k thanx08:51
noteventimeMy Xserver is kinda bugged so i'll have to restart it08:51
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ronaldson40k08:51
ronaldson40i 'll wait08:51
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stianHey, I have a question, it's not linux related, but still. When I do a search for my name on google, Konqueror and Opera shows my site as the first result, but when I do it in FF, im not even listed on the first page...whats up with that? How does it work?08:52
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noteventimeWho was it with cedega?08:52
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noteventime??08:54
noteventime'ello % FF008:54
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trappistnoteventime: http://transgaming.org/cvs/08:55
noteventimeCool08:56
noteventimeI thought you warent able to do that with version 508:56
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ronaldson40hi08:56
trappist*shrug* maybe it's out of date.  never heard about them dropping it.08:56
ronaldson40noteventime08:56
noteventime'ello08:57
ronaldson40hi08:57
ronaldson40abt the link ur were talkin abt08:57
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ronaldson40msg nickserv register aa09:00
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Tm_T!register09:02
uboturegister is probably type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))09:02
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Snake__Mornin all09:07
noteventime'ello09:07
noteventimehehe it's 9PM here :D09:07
Snake__noteventime: 3 pm here ;)09:07
noteventimeOH :D09:07
Snake__Hmmm this room is quite today09:09
Snake__Tis a good thing :)09:09
pmSnake__, where are the other two?09:10
Snake__pm: ??09:10
Snake__quiet** :)09:10
noteventimeMan, usplash is hard to configure09:10
pmi'm one and the only ;)09:11
Snake__pm: Oh! Rofl, I just now got that09:11
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larsivi!gutenprint09:23
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, larsivi09:23
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_b!sane09:25
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _b09:25
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joeytribbhi all09:35
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_moep_hi09:38
larsivinoone here tried the gutenprint (5.0.0rc2) drivers?09:39
_moep_i have some problems to start kubuntu cant start the install....09:39
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_moep_i have an acer TravelMate 4652 LMi09:42
_moep_and used some boot parameters but it doesnt works.. get only09:44
_moep_Umcompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel09:44
_moep_nd then black screen and nothing happens...09:44
larsiviHmm, might be a problem with the screen resolution somehow09:45
_moep_i think so, too but i have net really expierience with linux09:46
_moep_i used boot parameter09:46
_moep_linux vga=791 nehmen09:46
_moep_linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false09:46
_moep_and linux09:46
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trappist_moep_: is that the tiny laptop with only a usb cdrom drive?09:49
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_moep_no09:51
_moep_its this one:09:51
_moep_http://www.acer.de/acereuro/page4.do?dau22.oid=9005&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=9&CountryISOCtxParam=DE&LanguageISOCtxParam=de&crc=211841626709:52
_moep_(sry its a german link)09:52
Skrottrappist: You're thinking of Acer Travelmate 3000TWMi, and it's a firewire DVD-drive ;)09:53
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_moep_mmh and now?^^09:57
Heinkelhello?09:57
trappistSkrot: right you are :)09:57
SkrotOfcourse, I'm using it ;)09:57
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Heinkeli am looking for a url to a good kubuntu installation guide...can anyone help me?09:58
Heinkelneeds to cover setting up disk partitions and the installation itself...help09:58
Heinkeli have downloaded both live and setup CD from bittorrent...so now i need guidance :(09:59
sebiyou should try the kubuntu-forum, but the installation is really easy, so try to make it own your own, you will see, you will make it10:00
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tomas_hi10:00
tomas_is there anyone who knows his way around sound systems?10:00
Heinkeljust insert cd..cross fingers?10:00
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_moep_Skrot: wich boot parameter i should use?10:01
arrinmurris there a way to change the language after installation? and i don't mean keyboard layout10:01
sebithe installtion needs only a few information,the most will be configured automatically10:01
Skrot_moep_: Youve got a 3000-series?10:01
_moep_no10:02
_moep_4652LMi10:02
SkrotAnd what's the problem?10:02
Skrotacpi=off noacpi noapic seems to be a good bet for most laptops by the way10:02
_moep_ok i test it10:02
SkrotBut it really depends what the problem is..10:03
buntu-tabletsweet,  kubuntu 6.1 supports my so far not supported in linux Toshiba SD Card reader10:03
_moep_wow thx it works10:03
SkrotMake it support by Texas Instruments PCIxx21 already :P10:03
_moep_6.1? i have only 5.1. :/10:03
buntu-tabletit's the beta10:03
buntu-tabletdrapper or whatever10:04
_moep_ok10:04
jpowersdapper10:04
jpowersdapper drake10:04
buntu-tabletthat's it10:04
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buntu-tabletubuntu is the only distro that installs, supports my Intel Wireless 2200, my gigabit, cdrom, wacom tablet screen, with no modifications for my Toshiba Tecra M4-S435 Tablet PC10:05
sebi@buntu-tablet: my intern sd card reader works with 6.04 ,too. I'm really surprised about the positiv development of the Kubuntu project10:05
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jpowersbuntu-tablet: does it support touch sensitivity?10:06
buntu-tabletyep10:06
jpowersawesome10:06
buntu-tabletkrita and gimp both10:06
jpowersI've been tempted to get an x41 tablet10:06
buntu-tabletnot very many "notebook" applications out there yet10:06
trappistbuntu-tablet: similar experience here on my inspiron 600m (same wireless card)10:06
trappistbuntu-tablet: though the 2200 drivers are hella buggy10:07
jpowersbuntu-tablet: will having a tablet change my life?10:07
buntu-tabletjpowers: that was my other choice,  I went for 1lb heavier, but with DVD-RAM/RW/R, bluetooth, and a faster 1.73ghz pentium-m10:07
jpowers;)10:07
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buntu-tabletjpowers: for less $10:07
buntu-tabletjpowers: it's changed mine10:07
jpowerssweet10:08
buntu-tablet$1599 for this model10:08
buntu-tableton newegg10:08
jpowersnot bad10:08
buntu-tabletit's DDR2, and 2.5" sata hard drive10:08
buntu-tabletand nvidia geforce 6200 w/128mb10:08
trpr42buntu-tablet: just bought a laptop last week. should be arriving soon. it will be my first one :) can't wait to go outside or something, lol10:08
buntu-tabletplays quake4 very nice :)10:09
jpowersbuntu-tablet: very nice.10:09
buntu-tablettrpr42: awesome10:09
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buntu-tabletjpowers: the only down side was that my SD card (where i store all my note taking doc's in windows) didn't work in linux10:09
buntu-tableteven with updated kernel (2.6.15) in any other distro10:10
buntu-tableti just installed dapper for the heck of it, and it showed up on my desktop,  I was like WHOA10:10
jpowersawesome10:10
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buntu-tabletthe x41's are fully supported10:10
buntu-tabletin linux10:10
buntu-tabletand the only hardware not working now in linux for this Tecra M4 S435 is the Accelaromiter for stopping the hard drive if the laptop goes into motion10:11
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buntu-tableti replaced a 2.0ghz Dell Insprion 8600 with a slower 1.73,  but I'll never go back to normal laptop10:12
buntu-tabletthe sata, and ddr2 make up for the speed difference anyway10:12
jpowersI have an 860010:12
jpowersI really like the 1920x1200 res10:12
buntu-tabletit was beautiful10:12
jpowersThat's what I'll miss switching down10:12
buntu-tabletin 2d10:12
buntu-tabletit wouldn't push even old games though10:13
buntu-tabletand then it would get fuzzy10:13
jpowersmine would overheat when I played games10:13
buntu-tablettheis 1400x1020 i snice10:13
jpowers:s10:13
buntu-tabletor whatever it is..  1400xsomething10:13
buntu-tabletand it's light... so light10:13
buntu-tablet8600 weighs a ton10:14
jpowersI have an old X2110:14
jpowersthat thing is light10:14
buntu-tabletbattery life is right at 3.5 hours10:14
jpowersand I trust thinkpads to be reliable10:14
buntu-tabletyes10:14
jpowerswhich is why I was going to go with an x4110:14
buntu-tabletyeah10:14
jpowersbut if the tecra is that good, maybe I'll go for that.10:14
buntu-tabletand you can get about 6hrs from the x4110:14
jpowersthat's compelling.10:14
buntu-tabletmy tecra just survived a 5 foot fall onto a smooth concrete floor10:14
jpowerswow10:15
buntu-tabletfell off the bookshelf10:15
buntu-tabletno damage10:15
jpowersawesome10:15
buntu-tabletit was open, and on10:15
buntu-tabletfolded over in tablet mode10:15
SkrotIs it possible to download a kubuntu dapper netinst iso?10:15
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buntu-tabletthe clippy that holds the screen down in tablet mode, popped out of it's holder10:15
jjesse_meetingSkrot: i don't think so10:15
Skrotjjesse_meeting: hmm, okay10:16
jpowersbuntu-tablet: very cool10:16
buntu-tableti pushed it back in,  ran disk bad cluster detection 6 times on the drive10:16
buntu-tabletit survived10:16
buntu-tabletit's never going to happen again.. but yeah10:16
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buntu-tabletit was in winxp though, so the drive stopped10:17
buntu-tableterr  "parked"  when it detected it was falling10:17
buntu-tablettryiing to get that working in linux now.10:18
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buntu-tablethdaps10:18
buntu-tabletit wasn't rough concrete,  that probably would have scratched up the case..10:18
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buntu-tabletsounded like a empty plastic container hitting the floor..10:19
buntu-tabletmy 8600 survived a 3 foot fall from the front seat to the floorboard..10:19
buntu-tabletfrom like 60mpg to 15mpg10:20
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duckdownHi all.. I installed Dapper 4 and i think its great, but, after clicking the UPDATES button in the taskbar and completing it, It's still displaying the damn exlaimation point icon saying that there are '3 updated packages available' .. but after clicking it, it's just saying everything is up to date!10:30
buntu-tabletduckdown: sounds like something is being not updated for some dep reason or something10:32
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crwebwhat do i apt-get to get the sources that linux-image-2.6.15-16-386 were built with (for installing other modules)10:35
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trappistcrweb: try linux-tree-2.6.15-1610:40
crwebit doesn't exist10:41
trappisthrm.  you're right.  coulda sworn...10:42
crwebyeah, that's it for 2.6.1210:42
crwebwhich is how i knew it exist10:42
trappistlinux-source10:43
crwebit's just the source though10:43
crwebnot the compiled version and the same .config10:43
crwebunless that doesn't matter10:44
trappistI guess I'm not sure what you're looking for.  you want the source or the kernel image?10:44
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crwebinorder to build modules for the current running kernel, you need the kernel tree from the kernel you are running10:45
crwebnot just the source10:45
crwebnot just the image10:45
crwebhas to be the same .config and all kinds of stuff i thought10:45
crwebi think i got it,  brb10:46
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UNDERsoNhello everybody10:47
UNDERsoNit's my first time in kubuntu )) i think you're not so lucky as me about this10:48
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UNDERsoNonly 1 question where i can get mc dev package?10:49
UNDERsoNdeb10:49
UNDERsoNo i understand you're not so friendly as i think10:50
UNDERsoNso good by if you don't wanna help10:50
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unpersonI currently have Ubuntu Breezy installed on my home computer.  Follow the instructions on the wiki for installing Kubuntu-desktop, will the result be functionally the same as having installed kubuntu fresh from the CD (asside from a bunch of old Gnome stuff taking up space)?10:59
osh_unperson: yes.11:00
unpersonOr is it likely that various setting made during install will be different than if I had installed kubuntu fresh?11:00
unpersonosh_:  I'll take that as a no to the second part of the question then I guess.  :-)11:01
osh_unperson: sorry. baby crying. only one hand. no time.11:01
unpersonosh_:  Np.  My intent was to save you some typing.11:01
unpersonBut oh well.  :-)11:01
osh_unperson: not sure.11:02
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unperson2nd Question:  Are releases slower on the kubuntu side of things because this is not the original/main version of Ubuntu?11:02
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Celestehi11:03
CelestePlease help me,  between Line 55 and 60  were a lot of errors coming up  while installing APACHE 1.311:03
Celestehttp://pastebin.com/58256711:03
osh_unperson: no. not really.11:03
osh_unperson: and canonical is aiming at making kub as official as ub is.11:04
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unpersonCool.  Sounds worth a try then.  Having used both Gnome and KDE, I found KDE to be a bit more full featured/mature.11:04
_b!se11:05
ubotu_b: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:05
osh_unperson: me too. but ymmv.11:05
wimpies does anybody know if there is an installable kubuntu dapper iso image ?11:06
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osh_Celeste: looks ok to me. whats the prob?11:07
osh_wimpies: yes. on hp.11:07
wimpiesosh_ : euh ... where ?11:07
Celesteosh_, errors between line 55 and 6011:07
osh_wimpies: homepage11:07
wimpieswell I think I tried that one and it claims it is NOT an installable CD ... ?11:08
osh_Celeste: looks like they were recovered. isn't apachhe running?11:08
crwebi just installed dapper from cd 30 minutes ago11:08
crwebeverything is working fine11:09
Celesteit is running...11:09
osh_wimpies: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/11:09
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unpersonwimpies:  Is it possible the CD burned incorrectly?11:10
crwebwimpies: my install went perfect,  even hardware not supported in the standard kernel is working11:10
wimpiesunperson : it booted I got the gui, it asked me language and keyboard layout scanned for CD and then claimed it was not enough to install with11:11
unpersonah11:11
unpersonwimpies:  Weird.11:11
wimpiesosh_ :  that is the one I tried11:11
unpersonosh_:  Thanks a lot.11:12
unpersonLater.11:12
wimpiesCan I see some log output so I can check why it failed ?11:12
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Pyrobobhey I gotta small problem11:13
_b!krypto11:13
ubotu_b: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:13
osh_wimpies: checksum it?11:14
PyrobobI occasionally get a serious lag session11:14
Pyroboband their happening more often as I run Linux11:14
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wimpiesosh_ : if the image boots all right, I presume it is correct.11:14
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Pyrobob...11:15
Pyrobobany ideas?11:15
osh_wimpies: burn another. i got one from there and it worked fine.11:15
_banyone using cryptated drives for security ?11:16
zax1hola11:16
wimpiesI think I got it, my second CD contained an AUDIO cd and while scanning for CD's the installer though that that was the right CD11:17
osh__b: have a look at truecrypt. it's got ubuntu deb and all.11:17
osh_Pyrobob: manifesting how?11:17
Pyrobobjust has a serious lag session11:17
Pyrobobjust randomly11:17
Pyrobobmore and more often11:18
Pyrobobcan't run anything extra11:18
osh_Pyrobob: running what?11:18
PyrobobKubuntu11:18
crwebwimpies: 2nd cd?11:18
osh_Pyrobob: not net lag, just slow computer?11:18
Pyrobobyes11:18
Pyroboblooking at the process table right now11:18
wimpiescrweb : yes the audio cd was in the second drive11:18
crweboh oh11:19
crwebi see11:19
Pyrobobsee if I can close anything thats not needed11:19
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danniCan someone help me? I'm trying to install the ATI drivers, and I can't get the distro box to show any of the Ubuntu ones11:19
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osh_Pyrobob: what does top say?11:19
Pyrobobtop?11:19
osh_yes11:20
zax1can anyone recomend a good media player that come packed with all the necesery codecs to play any file on the planet ?11:20
Pyrobob...11:20
zax1or there about.....11:20
coldI just started the ubuntu live cd and totem has no video mpeg support, what plugin should I download ?11:20
osh_console, type top11:20
Pyrobobah11:20
Pyrobobone sec11:20
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zax1or maybe just a codec pack similar to the Klite package that is for linux11:20
zax1i dont care if its open source or not11:20
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osh_cold: i use vlc or mplayer... :-)11:21
robotgeekcold: do you mean dapper/breezy?11:21
neoncodeis running "sudo apt-get install gstremer*" a bad idea?11:21
Pyrobobeverything is root except like 4 things11:21
osh_Pyrobob: what's the load?11:22
coldumm11:22
coldbreezy11:22
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Pyrobobthere's 70 tasks 1 running 69 sleeping is what it says11:22
coldrebotgeek breezy11:22
osh_Pyrobob: you should have 3 load avg at the top of the screen11:23
Pyroboboh it says load average: 0.22, 0.35, 0.3411:23
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neoncodePyrobob: Hi ya pyro11:24
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osh_Pyrobob: does anything change when the comp freezes up?11:24
osh_Pyrobob: in top that is.11:24
Pyrobobnot sure it hasn't froze up so far11:24
Pyroboblemme open gAIM and see what happens11:24
Pyrobobthat and Kopete give me the most trouble11:25
osh_Pyrobob: keep looking11:25
wimpiesThe boot process only proposes american timezones ... why ?11:25
osh_py start kopete and see what happems11:25
_bencan anyone recomend a good ftp program other that kbear11:25
Pyrobobload average: 0.75, 0.49, 0.3811:25
osh__ben: konqueror?11:25
Pyrobobfirst number jumped tio 95, then dropped to 8011:25
wimpies_ben : konqueror ?11:25
_benHow does that work?11:26
wimpiesftp://WWW/...11:26
wimpies_ben : and it works from ANY location (also from KDE apps)11:26
Pyrobob...11:26
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osh_Pyrobob: keep an eye on top when comp freezes up11:27
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Pyrobobk its never actually "froze" just lagged extremely bad11:27
crwebwhy does firefox keep wanting to put my downloads into /tmp?11:27
Pyroboblike 30 minutes to close a gAMI window11:27
crwebi have it set to ask me11:27
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PyrobobgAIM*11:27
wimpiescrweb : I think it is a preference somewhere11:27
crwebwimpies: i have it set to ask me..11:28
Pyrobobfirst number is jumping around from 50 to 80 or so11:28
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jf-so, i've compiled my own kde vanilla sources (i need to have a stock-kde install for one of the accounts on my box), but it appears that the compile is still retaining some kubuntu settings11:28
_benthat's brilliant - thanks osh and wimpies11:28
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jf-for example, the "window" menu is still missing as it was from the Kubuntu/KDE11:29
_beni'm imbarrased that i didn't already know about it11:29
wimpiescrweb : donno then ... never tried ask11:29
jf-(in konq, that is)11:29
wimpieslet me try it here11:29
Pyrobobfirst number jumped to 1.4111:29
Pyrobobsecond to .670 and third to .4611:29
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wimpiescrweb: it asks me11:30
ttreadDoes anyone know what happened to kweather?  I notice it does not appear in the list of applets in Dapper.11:31
wimpiesI have version 1.0.711:31
wimpiesI save to the desktop and use konqueror to move it around11:31
wimpies(easier)11:31
zax1can any one help a noob?11:32
zax1just made the switch from windows11:32
wimpieszax1 : congrats11:32
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zax1and am getting a headache trying to figure it all out11:32
zax1thanks wimpies11:32
wimpieszax1 : figuring what out11:33
chxwhy I have a small "Berlin" below my clock? TZ I guess, but I'd like to get rid of it11:33
zax1a couple of stuff, i know istill think windows but i cant help my self11:33
zax1is there a "program files" folder somewhere11:33
wimpieschx : click right and set timezone11:33
zax1that i can see all my installed programs ?11:33
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wimpieszax1 : no programs can be installed in any location but most are installed in /usr/bin11:34
zax1ok11:34
chxwimpies: bah, did that but that did not make the TZ disapperar11:34
wimpieszax1 : linux uses the path variable to determine where things are11:34
ttreadzax1, most software installs under the /usr folder, you can run find from there11:34
chxoh!!11:34
chxlocal timezone!11:34
chxfinally.11:34
zax1how do i put them in my Kmenue11:34
zax1for example11:34
zax1does VLC come installed by default11:34
zax1if so where is it ?11:34
wimpieszax1 : click right on menu, add item, browse the disk and locate the executable11:35
zax1i mean - where do ui usualy launch apps from if they are not on the Kmenu by default11:35
wimpieszax1 : a good way to determine where things are is execute which COMMAND from a konsole applciation (should be in the menu)11:35
crwebzax1: open a konsole, or in the menu click on Run Command:11:36
ttreadzax1, I usually look in Adept to see if things are installed11:36
wimpieszax1 : I think if you click right on the desktop you can find the ;run' command too ...11:36
zax1i love it - your enthusiasm capture me - so many helpers11:36
zax1:)11:36
ttreadFor example, in Adept I filter on vlc and it shows a number of packages11:36
wimpieszax1 : you will need to unlearn lots of windows habits like typing backslashes between directories11:37
wimpiesor c: q: z: ...11:37
zax1i did that, but couldnt find it - vlc that is. i read somewhere about enabling universe and multiverse and use restricketed format11:38
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zax1but i dont think my menue is similar11:38
zax1cuz it doesntfollow their instruction11:38
wimpieszax1 : that is in the /etc/apt/sources.list and yes you need to add program sources that are not 'pure free'11:38
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zax1wimpies, i noticed that already about the habbits  - uphill all the way11:39
zax1how do i do it wimpie11:39
fatejudgerhas anyone here been able to mount samba shares at boot?11:39
wimpiesyou can add items using adept11:39
ttreadzax1, yep, vlc is in universe repository, you can enable it from the Adept menu under "Manage Repositories"11:39
wimpiessee 'system; menu11:39
zax1ttred - what is the diferance between adept and synaptic ?11:40
fatejudgerzax1: QT vs GTK11:40
ttreadzax1, not really any difference in function between the two11:40
zax1qt? what that ?11:40
wimpieszax1: they both use the same lower level package database : you can mix then11:40
fatejudgerzax1: a GUI toolkit11:40
wimpiesqt : is the library on which the KDE env is built (like win32 for windows)11:40
zax1right - that clears up some confusion11:40
ttreadjust different UIs11:41
fatejudgerttread: wtf, that's not right at all11:41
fatejudgerttread: they use two completely different toolkits11:41
wimpiestthread : not real UI but rather toolkits11:41
ttreadOk, sorry, it's more than the UI - but they both use apt underneath11:42
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_bIs anyone using cryptaded hard drive ?11:42
zax1riht-11:42
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zax1so how do i add the universe, i cant see it in the greyed out lines11:43
wimpiesjust add a line11:43
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_benis there a better html editor other that Quanta?11:44
ttreadzax1, find the lines that start with 'deb' (not deb-src) and contain 'universe', right click and select enable11:45
zax1but what do i put in whimpies11:45
CaptainbrailleI have a question about adept too.. I'm trying to install Wine, there is only instructions on adding a repository to Synaptic, I'm using adept, this is the line.. "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/"  how do I fix it for adept?11:45
wimpiesThat I do not know ...11:45
fatejudgerlol11:46
Captainbraillelol =)11:46
fatejudgersudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:46
fatejudgerthat'll open up a CLI text editor11:46
fatejudgerif you'd rather use kate then do11:46
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fatejudgeralt+f211:46
fatejudgerkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:46
fatejudgeryou'll need to paste that line in the bottom of that file11:46
fatejudgeruse whichever method you want11:46
neoncodeok. automount sucks. when I plug in a USB storage device. it opens konquror to media:/sdb1 and says that it dosen't exist. if find that it's actualy mounted in "/media/sdb1" - oh and the icon for the device doesn't appear on my desktop...11:47
Heinkelhmmm wish me luck...starting install :)11:47
CaptainbrailleWhen I add the line, this is what I get under distribution "binary/"11:47
fatejudger?11:47
zax1is there a "show desktop button on kubuntu11:48
neoncodeany help?11:49
crwebzax1: right click on the panel, and add it11:49
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ttreadzax1, there is an applet that you can add to the toolbar to show desktop11:49
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zax1its actualy quite intuitive11:51
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wimpiesanybody around with dapper install cd knowlegde : I installed and have two problems. 1 - a disks that he wants to mount 2 - the screen resolution after login on KDM switches to a bad setting11:56
wimpiesand when I logout from that erroneous setting kdm crashes11:57
ttreadwimpies, I had a similar problem with changing screen resolution in Dapper,11:58
ttreadIt's a documented bug, it either locks the screen or causes X to restart11:59
wimpiesAh ... I think I will go back to breezy11:59
ttreadYou could edit xorg.conf manually12:00
wimpiesok will try that12:00
wimpiestthread : xorg.conf seems to be ok (except for not using fglrx Like i had in breezy)12:02

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