[12:03] <andypre> well, constantly writing printf when i meant print ...
[12:03] <leafw> xD
[12:04] <andypre> makes you search an eternity for the problem in a command file using print instead of printf. hail to lauterbach ...
[12:04] <leafw> I type p( ...) and then use a vim %s/\tp(/\tprintf(/g
[12:05] <stez> hi all
[12:05] <leafw> but that's just my way, others use word completion (which I never liked), I gues
[12:05] <andypre> For the risk of a kickban: Using Visual Studio 2005 with Visual Assist X in the office, it'll expand automagically :-)
[12:05] <stez> anyone there who could help me with a firefox-related problem?
[12:05] <leafw> why a kickban, no idiots here
[12:06] <andypre> ACK
[12:06] <andypre> As we already switched to KDE ;-)
[12:06] <leafw> emacs or vim or even eclispe can do the same for you if you set up modes and macros appropriately.
[12:06] <leafw> even the KDE 'kdevelop' would, and many others I bet
[12:07] <kosh> for what I do autoexpand does not work and would be more of a hindrance if it tried
[12:07] <andypre> Well, yes. Eclipse: nice, greatest CVS frontend ever, but forget the indexer when talking about 15000 files in a project ...
[12:07] <leafw> that is a fat project you're on
[12:07] <leafw> I've never worked with more than a few hundred
[12:07] <kosh> or not very well factored ;)
[12:07] <andypre> fat, dumb, ancient and clumsy
[12:07] <leafw> not do I use eclipse, but on passing.
[12:08] <andypre> kosh: you got it
[12:08] <kosh> I have seen many people brag about how large and complex their projects are
[12:08] <kosh> but have managed to wipe out 50% of it without losing any functionality
[12:09] <kosh> most projects are just not coded anywhere close to efficiently
[12:09] <andypre> Once you got 3 different memcmp(), 2 of them on the same CPU, you really should clean up.
[12:09] <andypre> Esp. if one is signed, the other unsigned. grrrrr
[12:10] <leafw> have you seen school projects? With long lines of documentation, and then lots of vars such as int x, y;\n x = y = 0; x=0; y =0; and if (1) {}, and the like?
[12:10] <kosh> I have seen many school projects
[12:10] <leafw> you get a grade for being verbose and redundant.
[12:11] <kosh> for the last 5 years I have mostly been coding in python and I have sure enjoyed it
[12:11] <kosh> I write for maintenance as much as possible
[12:11] <leafw> I write to get the job done; my projects are small.
[12:11] <andypre> Well, not really the best language for embedded systems :-)
[12:11] <kosh> so I use good variable names, try to keep functions to 5-10 lines, keep the code well factored etc
[12:11] <kosh> ah well I don't code for embedded systems
[12:11] <andypre> leafw: extreme programming ?
[12:11] <stez> okay I start the other way around... I followed a wiki instruction from www.kubuntu.org and now my firefox won't start anymore anyone there who can help me?
[12:12] <kosh> my current project is about 15K loc
[12:12] <andypre> stez: What instruction ?
[12:12] <kosh> of very well factored code
[12:12] <stez> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29
[12:12] <leafw> andypre: extreme programming? coding 2 at a time? I've done it, it's fun. But mostly alone.
[12:13] <leafw> I'm in an environment of pure biologists, the computers are for photoshop, Blender and Word.
[12:13] <leafw> and ImageJ of course.
[12:13] <andypre> stez: Rather long. What does firefox say if started from shell ?
[12:13] <andypre> leafw: blender ? 3d-modeling ?
[12:13] <leafw> andypre: there are KSystemLogs ...
[12:14] <stez> it won't start as normal user it gives a box saying that FF should be exited first or the computer should be restarted
[12:14] <leafw> andypre: right.
[12:14] <stez> I can only start it as root
[12:14] <andypre> stez: stale lock ?
[12:14] <stez> andypre: what is that?
[12:15] <dyrne> stez: assuming killall firefox-bin didnt fix it?
[12:15] <stez> dyrne: no I tried that
[12:15] <andypre> leafw: Be forgiving to me, compiled kernel by hand the last 10 years ;-)
[12:15] <andypre> stez: I meant some kind of lockfile in your homedir
[12:16] <leafw> andypre: just mentioning! For some users, launching an app from a terminal is sorcery
[12:16] <andypre> stez: Any sensible output in thwe log ?
[12:16] <andypre> leafw: sometimes I miss the good old days (tm) ;-)
[12:17] <leafw> andypre: I don't. Installing debian was a pain. Now I don't even run debian anymore ...
[12:18] <stez> andypre: theres only one logfile in my home dir... nothing about firefox
[12:18] <andypre> leafw: Well, I meant the days where you build it up all by yourself. No distro at all.
[12:18] <leafw> andypre: I'm too young for that. Back then I was reading Asimov's Foundation and cycling my neighborhood
[12:18] <leafw> and didn't even know computers smaller than Multivac could acomplish anything
[12:19] <andypre> stez: tried to move ~/.mozilla/firefox/ out of the way and see if this changes anything ?
[12:22] <stez> andypre: that seems to help... although I'm missing all my preferences, plugins, bookmarks now
[12:23] <andypre> stez: of course
[12:23] <leafw> stez: you'd better have a backup.
[12:23] <stez> I do
[12:23] <andypre> stez: now we know it's something in your homedir
[12:23] <leafw> good user!
[12:24] <stez> andypre: yes... maybe a symbolic link or something helps resolving the issue?
[12:24] <stez> leafw:
[12:24] <stez> thx
[12:24] <andypre> stez: either some lock (strace is your friend) or some old setting incompatible to the new firefox
[12:24] <leafw> stez: in firefox you can import bookmarks, do so from your backup folder and voila.
[12:26] <andypre> stez: forget the idea about strace. It's nuts what gets touched there ...
[12:26] <stez> andypre: ok thank you very much... I will look into that (man strace :) ) and come back if I cant fix it alone! I really appreciate the tips.
[12:26] <stez> leafw: thx for this tip as well :)
[12:26] <leafw> you're welcome.
[12:26] <stez> andypre: okay I skip that
[12:27] <alanon> when my install is finished and X is about to start (i think) the computer halts.. help? Ive tried different disks but anyway it halts when X starts after the install scrips is done after the reboot...
[12:29] <leafw> alanon: the computer may not digest the screen properly ... do you have another screen to try on? Also, try to boot in safe mode and read the logs for problems.
[12:30] <andypre> stez: unlink("/home/apr/.mozilla/firefox/w1zfvs36.default/lock")
[12:30] <andypre> stez: so there is some lock
[12:30] <andypre> stez: look in your ff dirs for a file named "lock"
[12:31] <stez> andypre: ok ... brb
[12:31] <alanon> leafw i have a dvi monitor and dual nvidia gpu's, I assume this can have a crusial part of my problem, right?
[12:31] <leafw> alanon: sounds like it
[12:32] <leafw> brand new hardware needs time, for developers to setup drivers. Read, the companies selling the hardware seldom provide linux drivers.
[12:34] <alanon> actually they do.. seems like it would be smart of me to try..
[12:34] <leafw> you're lucky then.
[12:35] <pulver> anyone else having probs with firefox 1.5.0.1, mine draws checkboxes weird, doesn't ask me where to save stuff, download to weird filenames and goes back to history on mouse scroll =/
[12:35] <_user> can anybody help me please?
[12:35] <alanon> nvidia is great in linux comp actually :)
[12:35] <leafw> pulver: seems like you need to backup and then delete the ~/.mozilla/firefox folder
[12:36] <pulver> leafw: you think it will help.. ill try it right away...
[12:36] <alanon> btw, is there a way to install links or some commandline browser?
[12:36] <leafw> pulver: it's the only part that is different between you and any other user.
[12:36] <wimpies> I have this stupid little bash script I cannot get to work ... (only 10 lines but I get syntax errors ???)
[12:37] <wimpies> Anybody can help ?
[12:37] <leafw> alanon: commandline browser ?
[12:37] <leafw> a lynx ?
[12:37] <leafw> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lynx
[12:37] <alanon> je
[12:37] <leafw> or lynx-ssl
[12:37] <andypre> wimpies: maybe
[12:37] <_user_> how can i install a bluetooth usb adapter?
[12:37] <andypre> wimpies: tried with "set -x"
[12:38] <andypre> ?
[12:38] <pulver> leafw: true :)
[12:39] <wimpies> echo $((a+offset))
[12:39] <wimpies> this is the culprit
[12:39] <robotgeek> wimpies: shouldn't it be (($a+$offset)), i'm just guessing tho
[12:40] <wimpies> let me try ...
[12:40] <andypre> wimpies: $(($a+$offset))
[12:40] <andypre> $(( )) means arithemtic expansion
[12:40] <wimpies> yes that is the purpose : add the offset to thev value of a
[12:40] <wimpies> echo $(($a+$offset)) : syntax error ")syntax error: operand expected (error token is "
[12:41] <pulver> but it still behaves weird =/
[12:41] <andypre> try $((${a}+${offset}))
[12:43] <wimpies> Got it ( it was not a syntax error of the script but the value of 'a' was not a proper value for expressions ...
[12:45] <wimpies> Hmm.  the read variable returns a CR character at the end ??
[12:45] <wimpies> the line in the files shows 1 but the value read is
[12:45] <wimpies> '1\r
[12:45] <andypre> wimpies: hmmm, it should not.
[12:46] <wimpies> read a
[12:46] <wimpies> + '[' 0 -ne 0 '] '
[12:46] <wimpies> + eval $'z=1\r'
[12:46] <wimpies> is what I get and the last line in the script reads eval 'z=$a'
[12:48] <andypre> wimpies: what says ${#a} (length of var) ?
[12:49] <wimpies> 2
[12:49] <wimpies> I checked my file and it contains ^M chars ... that should not be I guess ...
[12:49] <andypre> jep
[12:50] <stez> andypre, leafw : I got it working! Needed to unlink all lock files, then chown the default user directory recursively from root to stez... now it works with all prefs, plugs, bookies... cool! Thanks a bunch!
[12:51] <leafw> stez: good you figured it out, and mostly by yourself! Keep and spread the knowdlege.
[12:51] <andypre> stez: np. and you did it on yourself.
[12:51] <andypre> by
[12:51] <andypre> bad english today ...
[12:52] <stez> no honestly.. I didn't know where to start... so you guys helped me a lot! I'll spread the word for sure! :)
[01:04] <pulver> ok.. downloaded and installed binary firefox only difference Gecko/20060124 along side with the Gecko/20060224 dapper and it doesn't have these symptoms using the same config...
[01:05] <pulver> but if it works flawlessly for everyone else maybe i messed up some ff dependency or something...
[01:07] <kosh> the only code that works flawlessly is the code that is not written ;)
[01:07] <pulver> kosh: hehe
[01:13] <adub> is there a kde like program that will let you associate with a given access point
[01:13] <adub> out of a list of available APS
[01:14] <adub> and stay associated with it
[01:15] <leafw> adub: there are, in various stages of development
[01:17] <leafw> there is the network-manager package that does a pretty good job
[01:17] <adub> well isnt that for gnome
[01:18] <adub> i got something in gnome to work before
[01:18] <leafw> works well in kde as well
[01:18] <leafw> I use it.
[01:18] <adub> oh
[01:18] <adub> where is it at in kde
[01:18] <leafw> even the applet works fine inside kde.
[01:18] <leafw> open Adept and install it from there.
[01:18] <adub> i just apt-cache search and it didnt show up
[01:18] <leafw> or 'sudo apt-get install network-manager'
[01:19] <leafw> adub: maybe the /etc/apt/sources.list don't have the universe/multiverse uncommented?
[01:19] <adub> it does
[01:20] <leafw> sudo apt-get update ?
[01:20] <adub> ok i found something that has a drop down list box of everything available
[01:22] <andypre> n8
[01:22] <unholycrap> Why is my Kubuntu installer not in english?
[01:22] <unholycrap> Why oh god why
[01:23] <leafw> ??
[01:23] <leafw> did you download the german CD ?
[01:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> h guys
[01:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what do you think is the laptop is more suitable for kubuntu?
[01:29] <stez> Tallia1Kubuntu: what do you mean?
[01:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like the one that works in the best way, also speaking about performance, graphic card...
[01:29] <stez> which model?
[01:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like which series
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i knew that lots of linux people always liked IBM thinkpad series
[01:30] <stez> I know a lot of people who are really pleased with the Thinkpads (IBM)
[01:30] <stez> lol
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and KDE has a configuration are reserved to IBM too
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> LOL
[01:30] <stez> exactly
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> they have a new name now right?
[01:30] <stez> do they?
[01:31] <stez> dunno
[01:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's not anymore IBM
[01:31] <leafw> Tallia1Kubuntu: I use a powerbook Ti 1GHz, works like a charm. Ibooks work really well too. You can get one on ebay for less thar $400.
[01:32] <leafw> the new thinkpads are Lenovo. Their mouse is just as crude as it was before.
[01:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ??
[01:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what do you mean crude?
[01:32] <robotgeek> leafw: of course, you you tell Tallia1Kubuntu that ppc users are forcibly FREE :)
[01:32] <leafw> a red, touch sensitive button in the middle of the keyboard. Not a touch pad
[01:33] <robotgeek> if you use linux on it, i.e.
[01:33] <stez> Tallia1Kubuntu: I use a Fujitsu Amilo A and Kubuntu runs very smooth on it as well!
[01:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> robotgeek: ?
[01:33] <leafw> robotgeek: of course.
[01:33] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu: no codecs, no flash, lame java
[01:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have an acer TM803LCi and works quite good.. but i HATE acer
[01:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> robotgeek: ? what do you mean? no codecs?
[01:34] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu: no binary codecs, (w32codecs)
[01:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in what?
[01:34] <stez> Tallia1Kubuntu: Toshibas Travelmates are supposed to be very good Laptops - however I have no Linux experience there
[01:34] <leafw> in a powerbook? We have IBM-1.4.2-java and GIJ.
[01:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ibm java?
[01:35] <robotgeek> leafw: hmm, i think the 1.5 java is there for ibm
[01:35] <robotgeek> leafw: check plf for deb
[01:35] <leafw> robotgeek: plf ?
[01:36] <robotgeek> !plf
[01:36] <ubotu> [plf]  the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only
[01:39] <leafw> robotgeek: can't find the 1.5.0 IBM java ... although google seems t point to many citing places
[01:39] <robotgeek> leafw: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/powerpc/non-free/ibm-java/ibm-j2re1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb
[01:40] <leafw> cool
[01:40] <leafw> thank you
[01:40] <robotgeek> leafw: better to install thru apt-get after adding repos
[01:40] <leafw> I usually don't install it, but run it from my own folders
[01:41] <leafw> this is a JRE, where is the SDK ?
[01:41] <leafw> gotcha
[01:41] <leafw> xD
[01:41] <leafw> same link, of course
[01:42] <unholycrap> why is my installe rnot in english?
[01:42] <unholycrap> i dont see how i could have mistakenly downloaded german
[01:42] <unholycrap> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/
[01:42] <unholycrap> is not labled german, or english
[01:43] <unholycrap> are installers for both languages named kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso ?
[01:45] <leafw> unholycrap: can't you choose the language in the installer? I think is one of the first menus you find.
[01:45] <davebgimp> did you maybe select the worng language by accident when initially running the installer?
[01:47] <robotgeek> stez: please turn off that away message
[01:47] <robotgeek> stez: we are simply not interested :P
[01:47] <unholycrap> well, at boot options
[01:47] <unholycrap> pressing enter, without any additional options, gives me german
[01:47] <seank> when viewing a page with video on it in konq, i get "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink'" and then it crashes...
[01:47] <stez> robotgeek: sry about that,,,
[01:48] <robotgeek> stez: no problemS :)
[01:50] <Extreme_Unction> Can anyone tell me how to turn off restore session whenever I reboot?
[01:52] <zblach> quick question. is there any xmms & kde integration in the form of a panel applet/lication?
[01:54] <leafw> Extreme_Unction: in the System Settings
[01:56] <leafw> Extreme_Unction: User account, Session manager.
[01:56] <Extreme_Unction> Thx
[02:04] <zblach> no? there was a gnome applet for that
[02:07] <dark_suic> zblach, there's some superkaramba themes and for sure there will be something at kde-apps.org
[02:10] <xwolf-> why the hell does mplayer have a single video size? i cant resize it
[02:13] <Borelia> i also noticed that anoying as hell
[02:20] <robotgeek> xwolf-: ~/.mplayer/maplyer.conf , zoom = yes
[02:26] <Borelia> aah
[02:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in C++ if s is a float
[02:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> s ? EXP1 : EXP2
[02:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is like s != 0 ? ......
[02:40] <_jah> hello. anyone knows how to use arts as client for jack?
[02:42] <_jah> anyone knows how to run artsd as jack-client?
[02:42] <_jah> sry
[02:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in C++ if s is a float
[02:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> s ? EXP1 : EXP2
[02:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is like s != 0 ? ......
[02:44] <leafw> Tallia1Kubuntu: yes
[02:45] <leafw> but I'd rather write it verbously
[02:45] <leafw> so you know in the future what that expression is meant to test.
[02:52] <runelind> I have a wireless script that I want to run at startup, and I put it in /etc/init.d, is there anything else I have to do?
[02:53] <leafw> runelind: yes, ensure that it is in the proper run mode
[02:53] <runelind> how do I do that? :|
[02:53] <klaus> hey anyone wanna help me?
[02:53] <klaus> i need java
[02:53] <leafw> and that it is finished when shuting down (the S- and the K- scripts in the /etc/rc2.d )
[02:54] <leafw> the default running mode is 2, so fo to /etc/rc2.d/ and have a look there. There are start scripts (prepended S) and stop scripts (prepended K, for kill).
[02:58] <leafw> CVs the wonderful: http://bash.org
[02:58] <leafw> #613868 +(172)- [X] 
 it is just ironic.... you can't get the cvs version of cvs unless you get the older version of cvs then cvs to the cvs server to get the latest cvs version of cvs
[02:59] <leafw> sentry out
[03:02] <Celeste> hi
[03:02] <Celeste> what Xorg version does Kubuntu use, please?
[03:02] <Tm_T> Celeste: Xorg -version
[03:02] <Tm_T> or packages.ubuntu.com
[03:03] <unholycrap> the boot menu and install program on my kubuntu cd are in german
[03:03] <unholycrap> but the help, F1-F? are in english
[03:03] <unholycrap> is there a command i can do to use english language?
[03:03] <unholycrap> perameter, rather
[03:05] <unholycrap> Ihre Tastur ist: Deutsch
[03:05] <unholycrap> okay cool im gonna need to translate all these screens so i can find english
[03:07] <Borelia> no i didnt have problem install
[03:07] <unholycrap> Belegung uber die Tastatur ermitteln
[03:07] <Extreme_Unction> I use Alsa as my primary sound but Gaim sounds never work on it.. How can I fix this?
[03:07] <Borelia> no german for me
[03:07] <unholycrap> Auswahl aus der vollstandigen Liste
[03:07] <unholycrap> me either... babelfish is down too
[03:07] <Borelia> yes but i didnt have this problem i remember
[03:08] <Extreme_Unction> Can anyone help me, then?
[03:09] <unholycrap> oh i see
[03:09] <unholycrap> its recognizing the keyboard as german?
[03:09] <unholycrap> the first screen is keyboard
[03:09] <unholycrap> well poopy
[03:09] <unholycrap> great
[03:10] <unholycrap> wait a min
[03:11] <Extreme_Unction> I'm going to update to KDE 3.5.1 :)
[03:12] <unholycrap> FUCK
[03:12] <Extreme_Unction> ?
[03:13] <Extreme_Unction> Wow, they actually have repositories for 3.5.1 kubuntu
[03:13] <Extreme_Unction> sw33t
[03:21] <Extreme_Unction> Can anyone help me get Gaim's sound working? I use Alsa for everything basically
[03:23] <seank> when viewing a page with video on it in konq, i get "Can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink'" and then it crashes...
[03:24] <Extreme_Unction> seank: Try enabling universe repository and then doing "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins"
[03:24] <gleesond> does anyone know about dirvers for asus motherboards? I'm trying to get my gigbit nic to work properly. for some reasion the way it is now, my routers webpages won't load all the way
[03:26] <sybil> startkeylogger
[03:26] <ragna> do anyone knows a program that could recognice in what code is a video file encoded?? =o
[03:27] <rocinante> can anyone tell me how to reinit my nick card, it is not coming up on my other machine
[03:27] <seank> Extreme_Unction: same thing...
[03:28] <rocinante> i checked dmesg and I don't see anything
[03:31] <Extreme_Unction> seank: Not sure, I use alsasink for Amarok and I believe I got it off of gstreamer0.8-plugins
[03:31] <seank> Extreme_Unction: well, gstreamer0.8-alsa is already installed.
[03:31] <Extreme_Unction> Did you install gstreamer0.8-plugins?? It has other things.
[03:32] <seank> yes, i did.  it doesn't work.
[03:33] <Extreme_Unction> Give me a link to a website with video and I'll try on my konq.
[03:34] <Extreme_Unction> I use Firefox 1.5.1 primarily, but why not give it a go.
[03:34] <seank> Extreme_Unction: any i try, but try http://www.break.com/index/noworkwank.html
[03:35] <Extreme_Unction> You need mplayer, correct?
[03:35] <seank> huh?
[03:35] <Extreme_Unction> well, that's what your trying to use anyway
[03:35] <seank> no, i don't have mplayer.
[03:35] <seank> kaffeine.
[03:35] <Extreme_Unction> ahh
[03:35] <Extreme_Unction> I'll install that then
[03:37] <Extreme_Unction> Wait!
[03:37] <Extreme_Unction> Have you installed kaffeine-gstreamer?
[03:37] <seank> it's stupid that it crashes though... it should just tell me i don't have the right stuff and then not show it.. not frickin crash teh thing.
[03:37] <seank> Extreme_Unction: that's already installed.
[03:37] <rocinante> what is the command to renew my lease from a dhcp server?
[03:38] <farous> rocinante: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[03:38] <rocinante> farous: thank you
[03:38] <farous> yw :)
[03:39] <Extreme_Unction> You beat me by one second!
[03:39] <Extreme_Unction> Heh
[03:39] <farous> Extreme_Unction: how are you my firend
[03:39] <Extreme_Unction> Good
[03:39] <farous> lol am still messed up after the exam so sorry for spell
[03:39] <Extreme_Unction> Hehe
[03:39] <Extreme_Unction> I just took FCAT (Florida Assessment Test)
[03:39] <ryanakca> how do you make konversation auto-replace/complete words.... ex: :) becomes 
[03:42] <Extreme_Unction> seank: No idea, sorry.. if you fix it tell me.. I'd like to know aswell.
[03:43] <Extreme_Unction> I'd say your best bet is to switch Kaffeine to the Xine engine.
[03:44] <rocinante> farous: i'm good to go
[03:44] <rocinante> thanks again
[03:44] <farous> ur welcomed my freind
[03:44] <Extreme_Unction> Can anyone help me get Gaim to expel sound properly? At the moment, I hear nothing from Gaim!
[03:45] <farous> hm gaim and sound though i run it all the time do not know what sound you are talking about
[03:45] <farous> so i guess it never worked here :)
[03:45] <Extreme_Unction> When you pm someone it should make a sound!
[03:45] <Extreme_Unction> It worked fine on Gnome/Windows
[03:47] <SmrtJustin> I kind of have an odd problem, in Opera or Firefox, when I scroll really fast up, it goes Back, and when I scroll really fast down, it goes Forward, is there anyway to fix this, cuz I love scrolling through pages really fast...
[03:50] <seank> where can i get w32codecs?
[03:51] <farous> !tell seank about restricted
[03:51] <farous> seank follow ubotu link there is a link to where you can download it
[03:51] <Extreme_Unction> Also, I can't get sound working on Firefox (Flash game)
[03:54] <csseyah> hello guys!
[03:54] <csseyah> question pls!!!! may i???
[03:54] <Extreme_Unction> Go for it
[03:55] <csseyah> hey guys
[03:55] <farous> !anyone
[03:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:56] <csseyah> how can i copy a file from one folder to anothe folder in konsole????
[03:56] <farous> csseyah: man cp
[03:56] <csseyah> good
[03:56] <csseyah> thanks!!!
[03:56] <farous> cp <source file> <destination file>
[03:56] <farous> yur w :)
[03:57] <csseyah> farous???
[03:57] <csseyah> is that source file or source folder????
[03:57] <farous> csseyah: that is the syntax for copy
[03:58] <farous> csseyah: /dir/source file =<source file>
[03:58] <csseyah> how can i put that file to another folder bro
[03:58] <csseyah> ic
[04:00] <crxyem> use the cp command
[04:00] <csseyah> farous do u know how to hackproof????
[04:01] <farous> csseyah: hackproof ?? am not familiar with the term
[04:01] <csseyah> ic
[04:03] <csseyah> hackproof means... using hacking tools in linux/ unix
[04:04] <farous> csseyah: as in hack a pc or hack a program as in reverse engineering
[04:04] <farous> hacking progs I do form time to time. but pcs am not interested
[04:05] <csseyah> ahh ic
[04:05] <csseyah> farous YoUR the MAN... thanks!!!
[04:06] <farous> csseyah: good luck my freind
[04:10] <csseyah> farous one thing more! did u already configured ur server??? can u give me some manual on how to config my server co'z im newbie if you don't mind , thanks!
[04:10] <farous> csseyah: i am not running a server here
[04:10] <farous> just my laptop
[04:10] <csseyah> ic
[04:11] <farous> csseyah: visit wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <csseyah> but if u have some manual on how to configured can u share it????
[04:11] <csseyah> ok\
[04:11] <csseyah> thanks!
[04:11] <farous> there are help documents there that will give you a good push
[04:12] <farous> csseyah: look for the help documents or just documents should be neare the top
[04:13] <csseyah> sure!
[04:13] <csseyah> tnx
[04:15] <karat> I've got onboard audio that I tried disabling in the BIOS but it still pops up under lspci and so it still gets the alsa0 spot
[04:22] <Extreme_Unction> I can't get sound to work in Gaim or Firefox, anyone know how to fix this?
[04:30] <Joe12345> Hello
[04:31] <Joe666> hey
[04:31] <Joe666> anyone there
[04:37] <frank23> maybe
[04:38] <CellarDoor> hey all
[04:39] <CellarDoor> a friend came around and I showed him Apollon
[04:39] <CellarDoor> he was impressed (he's a windows user)
[04:40] <frank23> yeah. its the only program I know that gets into FastTrack
[04:41] <CellarDoor> yeah, he saw that I was connected to three different networks at once and said, "ooh you have the powa"
[04:42] <CellarDoor> but... he said (not that its that important), "whats with the crap name ?"
[04:42] <CellarDoor> so... I said what would you call it ?
[04:43] <CellarDoor> I had already explained to him that it was a giFT client
[04:44] <CellarDoor> so he goes, "its a KDE app... filesharing... all these KDE apps seem to have a K in their names (which he also finds annoying)..."... "nevertheless" he said...
[04:44] <CellarDoor> and he goes... "filesharing... K... sharK"
[04:44] <CellarDoor> sharK
[04:44] <CellarDoor> I thought... hey, you know, thats not bad
[04:45] <frank23> shark...  yeah
[04:45] <CellarDoor> I'm only telling you guys cause there's no one in #apollon atm
[04:45] <CellarDoor> :P
[04:45] <CellarDoor> they might be loath to consider a name change, but I thought, sharK is catchy
[04:45] <Extreme_Unction> Lol
[04:46] <frank23> maybe it's too piratey though ;)
[04:46] <Extreme_Unction> I need to think up a unique but catchy name..
[04:46] <CellarDoor> frank23: lol yeah maybe :)
[04:46] <Extreme_Unction> Had to ditch my old identity because I was hated by too many people.. Ahh well.
[04:46] <CellarDoor> lol
[04:47] <Extreme_Unction> K-K-K UNIT! zOmG its da K-K-K UNIT!
[04:47] <CellarDoor> eh ?
[04:47] <goldbrick> !xcfg
[04:48] <ubotu> [xcfg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:48] <Extreme_Unction> Lol, every one and a while I do find it slightly annoying that almost all of my software starts with a K
[04:48] <Extreme_Unction> Or atleast has a K (amaroK)
[04:48] <CellarDoor> hehe
[04:48] <CellarDoor> yeah
[04:48] <Extreme_Unction> Better than G, I suppose.
[04:48] <Extreme_Unction> :)
[04:48] <CellarDoor> lol
[04:48] <CellarDoor> It can be a bit annoying, but I liked "sharK"
[04:48] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, my system administrators are idiots @ my school, a bit off topic.
[04:49] <CellarDoor> slightly
[04:49] <frank23> I don't know why they chose K... it doesn't stand for anything does it?
[04:49] <Extreme_Unction> Booted up FreeSBIE and they said "I was hacking the network."
[04:49] <CellarDoor> I'm not sure
[04:49] <CellarDoor> I think it originally stood for Kool
[04:49] <Extreme_Unction> Woah, I skipped the fucking network login, whoop-de-doo.
[04:49] <Extreme_Unction> Oh Noes!! THE BIG AND BAD FREEBSD
[04:50] <Extreme_Unction> Seriously, I wanted to nail him.. he didn't even know what FreeBSD was, or BSD, or Linux.
[04:50] <CellarDoor> what the...
[04:50] <Extreme_Unction> The retards they hire as 'system administrators' this day.. he ran off of XP.
[04:50] <frank23> you know what   fvwm    stands for?
[04:50] <Extreme_Unction> I'm only fifteen and I could do a better job!
[04:50] <Extreme_Unction> !fvwm
[04:50] <ubotu> Extreme_Unction: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:50] <CellarDoor> a sysadmin who doesnt know what FreeBSD or Linux is ? erm... does he know what Unix is ?
[04:51] <CellarDoor> frank23: no idea
[04:51] <Extreme_Unction> Well, all of that, to him, registers as a "Hacking tool."
[04:51] <frank23> on the website they say  f...... virtual windows manager
[04:51] <CellarDoor> argh
[04:51] <CellarDoor> oh
[04:51] <Extreme_Unction> All he does to sysadmin is run a shitty client on our computer in which he can watch/control/etc (Like VNC.. only for a whole network)
[04:51] <Extreme_Unction> net stop client32
[04:51] <Extreme_Unction> Woah!
[04:51] <Extreme_Unction> Fucking owned!
[04:51] <CellarDoor> thats what our sysadmin at work does
[04:52] <CellarDoor> its all windows there
[04:52] <CellarDoor> losers
[04:52] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, just end the service.
[04:52] <Extreme_Unction> I boot up to FreeSBIE or a live linux disk because I don't feel like screwing with Windows.. I usually just use OpenOffice..
[04:52] <Extreme_Unction> But no, I can't use OpenOffice.. I get in trouble for using hacking tools. I'm hacking with OpenOffice 2.. Woah!
[04:53] <CellarDoor> I put a live linux cd in the bosses computer once
[04:53] <Extreme_Unction> I also like to actually program Java once and a while
[04:53] <CellarDoor> I booted his comp with a live Cd in it and left it like that
[04:53] <Extreme_Unction> Lol
[04:53] <frank23> Extreme_Unction: did he actually use the word hack for what you were doing?
[04:53] <CellarDoor> he nearly had a heart attack
[04:53] <Extreme_Unction> Yes!
[04:53] <Extreme_Unction> He said I was bringing 'hacking software' to school.
[04:53] <frank23> Extreme_Unction: lol
[04:53] <CellarDoor> open office ?
[04:53] <Extreme_Unction> and confiscated my disk!
[04:53] <Extreme_Unction> What the fuck!
[04:53] <Extreme_Unction> No, Linux in general.
[04:54] <Extreme_Unction> He through away my disk.
[04:54] <Extreme_Unction> FFS
[04:54] <Extreme_Unction> threw *
[04:54] <Extreme_Unction> I had to go to wally world and get a new disk.
[04:54] <CellarDoor> I would have gone straight to the principle's office and told him about it and said they should sack him for total incompetence
[04:54] <Extreme_Unction> Everyone around here is totally incompitent.
[04:54] <CellarDoor> didnt you make a big fuss ?
[04:55] <CellarDoor> I would
[04:55] <Extreme_Unction> I got in trouble because some kid decided to keep pestering me because he thought I was 'hacking the school' while I was compiling some Java/etc in Konsole.
[04:55] <CellarDoor> go sick man
[04:55] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, fussing just makes things worst when people are an idiot about a subject!
[04:55] <CellarDoor> start shouting at people
[04:55] <CellarDoor> tell them what you think of them
[04:55] <Extreme_Unction> I don't want to be banned from computers, when I have two computer-orientated classes in which I'd fail.. and I'm on the verge of it!
[04:56] <CellarDoor> take it higher
[04:56] <CellarDoor> stupidity needs to be nipped in the bud
[04:56] <Extreme_Unction> Towards the end of the year I'm going to use FreeSBIE to extract the SAM password hashes, and use rainbow tables to crack the admin password and give it to everyone.
[04:56] <Extreme_Unction> Heh.
[04:56] <Extreme_Unction> Or something to that extent.
[04:56] <CellarDoor> what did they confiscate again ?
[04:56] <Extreme_Unction> I don't know :\
[04:57] <Extreme_Unction> Only my FreeSBIE disk.. but seriously! I don't want to go to wally world.
[04:57] <Extreme_Unction> and he bitched and moaned at me..
[04:57] <CellarDoor> demand it back
[04:57] <Extreme_Unction> Lol
[04:57] <Extreme_Unction> He threw it away.
[04:57] <CellarDoor> seriously
[04:57] <CellarDoor> thats stealing
[04:57] <Extreme_Unction> I'll demand he order me an official copy from a distro vendor
[04:57] <Extreme_Unction> :)
[04:57] <CellarDoor> demand it
[04:57] <CellarDoor> its theft
[04:58] <csseyah> guys! help here!!!
[04:58] <CellarDoor> I'm serious
[04:58] <csseyah> what is the command for installing firefox
[04:58] <CellarDoor> being a teacher doesnt give him the right to simply take something that doesnt belong to him
[04:58] <Rebecca> apt-get install firefox  (?)
[04:58] <csseyah> got it
[04:58] <csseyah> thank rebecca
[04:58] <csseyah> muwaaHHh
[04:58] <Rebecca> that's a guess, lol
[04:58] <CellarDoor> sudo apt-get install firefox ;)
[04:58] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, you should probably use the tutorial on how to update to 1.5.1 while your at it.
[04:59] <Extreme_Unction> Also, you should probably add some repositories to update to KDE 3.5.1 if you haven't!
[04:59] <CellarDoor> meh
[04:59] <Extreme_Unction> Anyways, CellarDoor.. I'm a shitty at bitching!
[04:59] <CellarDoor> I think I'll just wait till april for dapper
[05:00] <Extreme_Unction> Stupid people keep arguing even if they know they're wrong
[05:00] <Extreme_Unction> I know that good
[05:00] <frank23> Extreme_Unction: Stupid people keep arguing; they don't know if they're wrong or not
[05:00] <CellarDoor> Extreme_Unction: seriously, you should go to your principle and tell him that you had something taken which should not have been and that if its not replaced youre going to the police to report a theft.
[05:01] <Extreme_Unction> frank23: Someone kept arguing that WINE was an emulator when I showed him what it stood for!
[05:01] <Extreme_Unction> On the official website!
[05:01] <frank23> hehe
[05:01] <CellarDoor> tell them, "ignorance is not a virtue"
[05:01] <Extreme_Unction> CellarDoor: I'd rather just fuck with them!
[05:02] <csseyah> wow
[05:02] <csseyah> :p
[05:02] <CellarDoor> stand on some principles
[05:02] <Extreme_Unction> I'm good at finding vulnerabilities, not bitching.
[05:02] <CellarDoor> dont give open source a bad name by misbehaving
[05:02] <CellarDoor> cause you'll give ignorant people that impression
[05:02] <Extreme_Unction> Yeah, there is NO RULE about booting up FreeSBIE!
[05:02] <Extreme_Unction> Or any linux!
[05:02] <CellarDoor> they'll only believe more strongly what they believed in the first place
[05:02] <CellarDoor> if you mess with them
[05:03] <CellarDoor> so educate them
[05:03] <Extreme_Unction> Hmmm, I didn't make a big deal about it then.. I suppose it isn't too late to bring up a complaint on the issue.
[05:03] <CellarDoor> throw things at them like, "a teacher who cannot learn, should not teach"
[05:04] <Extreme_Unction> Oh man, we have the most retarded classes!
[05:04] <csseyah> :p
[05:04] <Extreme_Unction> I'm in a class where we get a MOS degree.. That is so useful.
[05:04] <CellarDoor> MOS ?
[05:04] <Extreme_Unction> Microsoft Office Specialist.
[05:04] <CellarDoor> hahahahahahaha
[05:04] <csseyah> wowie
[05:04] <CellarDoor> :P
[05:04] <Extreme_Unction> The only classes that show ANY challenge at all are Drafting.. Which is pretty easy.
[05:05] <Extreme_Unction> AutoCAD
[05:05] <Extreme_Unction> We had Java programming class (Basics), and VB (EWWWWWWWWWWW) but noone passed them ever so they took them out.
[05:05] <Extreme_Unction> lol
[05:05] <CellarDoor> go to your principle and ask to be expelled
[05:05] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, I couldn't have that unfortunately.
[05:05] <Extreme_Unction> I need a scholarship.. not exactly rich.
[05:06] <CellarDoor> tell them your afraid if you stay there any longer your brain might liquify ;)
[05:06] <_adub> what is the latest stable kernel i can apt-get install
[05:06] <Extreme_Unction> I am going to transfer to ATC (Advanced Technology Center) in 11th grade.
[05:06] <CellarDoor> Extreme_Unction: is that better ?
[05:06] <Extreme_Unction> ATC is big on hardware and they've got some good classes.. even as extreme as Assembly programming
[05:07] <CellarDoor> meh
[05:07] <Extreme_Unction> And you can take a lot of college classes there and save some money.
[05:07] <duckdown> Hey all.. I just installed Dapper 4-Kubuntu over Dapper 4-Ubuntu (Sick of gnome, and the ugly brown themes.)..  And I uncommented the pre-commented lines from /etc/apt/sources.list and did an 'apt-get update' but 'apt-cache search snes' is yielding NO packages; when I was in Ubuntu Dapper there were at least 5..  Can someone search for 'snes' and see if some Emulator packages come up
[05:07] <CellarDoor> ok
[05:07] <CellarDoor> eek
[05:07] <Extreme_Unction> duckdown: Compile zsnes yourself or look for a .deb/repository with it.
[05:07] <Extreme_Unction> I compile zsnes myself last time :\
[05:08] <duckdown> hmm is that better than SNES9X ?
[05:08] <Extreme_Unction> much
[05:08] <duckdown> serious. thanks man
[05:08] <duckdown> let me check it out
[05:08] <Extreme_Unction> It's even got a battle net application (Compatible with Linux)
[05:08] <Extreme_Unction> www.zbattle.net
[05:08] <duckdown> you don't have it in your apt-cache though?
[05:08] <duckdown> cause i dont
[05:08] <Extreme_Unction> No, sorry.. I don't have it any more.
[05:08] <duckdown> ok thanks
[05:09] <Extreme_Unction> I suggest you build it or search the web for a deb package.
[05:09] <duckdown> i'll try building it i guess :D
[05:09] <Extreme_Unction> kyle@Linuxbox:~$ apt-cache search snes
[05:09] <Extreme_Unction> kodo - mouse odometer for KDE
[05:09] <Extreme_Unction> adonthell - A 2D graphical roleplaying game
[05:09] <Extreme_Unction> gcpegg - Global Consciousness Project EGG Software
[05:09] <Extreme_Unction> visualboyadvance - a full featured Game Boy Advance emulator
[05:09] <Extreme_Unction> Sorry for the paste :\
[05:11] <CellarDoor> bbl
[05:12] <Extreme_Unction> duckdown: You need nasm to compile it, by the way!
[05:12] <Extreme_Unction> !nasm
[05:12] <ubotu> Extreme_Unction: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:12] <Extreme_Unction> :\
[05:12] <Extreme_Unction> Well, it's on my apt-cache
[05:13] <Rebecca> does kubuntu support ati cards automaticly?
[05:13] <Extreme_Unction> I believe you need a driver for full support.
[05:13] <Rebecca> ok
[05:14] <Extreme_Unction> downduck: I'll play you some zsnes in a bit on netplay if you want
[05:17] <Extreme_Unction> and if you need help compiling it, just ask, downduck :D
[05:21] <duckdown> Extreme_Unction: yeah, its needed a bunch of stuff
[05:21] <duckdown> nasm, zlib, libpong
[05:21] <duckdown> *libpng
[05:21] <duckdown> yay, compiled ok ;)
[05:21] <Extreme_Unction> Ahh
[05:21] <Extreme_Unction> I got sound init failed
[05:21] <duckdown> Extreme_Unction: Is it for X ?
[05:21] <Extreme_Unction> but got it compiled right
[05:21] <Extreme_Unction> It works in X, yes..
[05:22] <Extreme_Unction> I'm not sure about running it without X.
[05:22] <Extreme_Unction> do you get sound init failed when you start it.. duckdown?
[05:22] <duckdown> newp
[05:22] <Extreme_Unction> HHHHHHMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!
[05:23] <Extreme_Unction> It doesn't say that in your shell?
[05:23] <duckdown> i think the sound engine blows in this
[05:23] <duckdown> i tried it on kubuntu
[05:23] <duckdown> err Ubuntu
[05:23] <duckdown> had to move to snes9x for good sound emulation
[05:23] <duckdown> Nope, my sound works, its just choppy
[05:23] <Extreme_Unction> Heh
[05:23] <Extreme_Unction> You using Alsa?
[05:24] <duckdown> yeah
[05:24] <duckdown> damn it, the sound sucks
[05:24] <Extreme_Unction> I'll try to fix it
[05:24] <Extreme_Unction> but
[05:24] <Extreme_Unction> Let me load up a ROM
[05:24] <duckdown> sure
[05:24] <duckdown> it worked great in snes9x :S
[05:27] <Extreme_Unction> I can't get it to work at all!
[05:27] <Extreme_Unction> Does your sound work in gaim .. duckdown?
[05:27] <duckdown> it would im sure, but i dont like it
[05:27] <duckdown> i like Kopete :-)
[05:27] <Extreme_Unction> Mine doesn't!
[05:27] <duckdown> oh, it does for sure sorry
[05:28] <Extreme_Unction> It's very selective
[05:28] <duckdown> i had it in Ubuntu
[05:28] <Extreme_Unction> My sound worked perfectly in Ubuntu but most things fail in Kubuntu
[05:28] <duckdown> the new Dappers are REAL good at auto-detection.. even detects my resolution right
[05:28] <Extreme_Unction> Amarok/etc work
[05:28] <duckdown> only thing it breaks
[05:28] <Extreme_Unction> Ahh, you're on Dapper?
[05:28] <duckdown> is my touchpad.. i have to manually edit xorg.conf
[05:28] <duckdown> yep
[05:29] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, well my sound doesn't work for many things
[05:29] <Extreme_Unction> Gaim, Firefox, Zsnes
[05:29] <duckdown> Let me ask you this
[05:29] <duckdown> open up the Konsole
[05:29] <duckdown> and press BACKSPACE at the prompt
[05:29] <duckdown> does an ultra-loud bell ring?
[05:29] <Extreme_Unction> Yes
[05:29] <duckdown> thats my #1 complaint in Kubuntu
[05:29] <csseyah> hey guys!!! i interrupt ur conversations :p i would like to ask something!!! how can i make a file -> libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:29] <duckdown> ok well that thing drives me nuts
[05:29] <duckdown> its so damn loud
[05:30] <duckdown> I don't know how to disable it forever
[05:30] <Extreme_Unction> lol
[05:30] <Extreme_Unction> I do
[05:30] <duckdown> nice
[05:30] <Extreme_Unction> System Notifications in Sound & Multimedia in System Settings?
[05:32] <Extreme_Unction> HOLY toledo
[05:32] <Extreme_Unction> I just made a system ring that could wake up the neighbors
[05:33] <duckdown> hahahaha
[05:33] <duckdown> oh man thats classic
[05:34] <Extreme_Unction> Man! I want sound!
[05:35] <Extreme_Unction> Sound!
[05:35] <Extreme_Unction> Yay
[05:35] <Extreme_Unction> You fond of Contra 3, duckdown?
[05:38] <duckdown> sure
[05:39] <duckdown> contras were sweet
[05:39] <duckdown> i loved super-punch out
[05:39] <duckdown> thats what im trying to find
[05:39] <duckdown> google shows nothing but spam sites when looking for roms :(
[05:39] <Extreme_Unction> Would you like to netplay me contra 3?
[05:39] <Extreme_Unction> Ahhh, I have a few good ones
[05:39] <duckdown> I can't use ZSNES
[05:39] <Extreme_Unction> Why not?
[05:39] <duckdown> my sound is choppy
[05:39] <duckdown> I have to use snes9x, which I just installed
[05:39] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, you sure you're using ALSA??
[05:39] <duckdown> Positively
[05:40] <duckdown> intel_ich
[05:40] <Extreme_Unction> Does Snes9x have a deb package?
[05:40] <duckdown> it has net mplay too
[05:40] <duckdown> not sure, i download the binary
[05:40] <duckdown> hang on
[05:40] <duckdown> www.snes9x.com
[05:40] <Extreme_Unction> Well, if you give me linkage I'll play some Contra 3 with you
[05:41] <duckdown> okay
[05:41] <duckdown> http://vincent.grigorieff.free.fr/snes9x/
[05:41] <duckdown> there ya go
[05:41] <vexx> startkeylogger
[05:42] <vexx> guess nobody running norton
[05:42] <Extreme_Unction> duckdown: I got my contra 3 from www.sexy-nerd.com
[05:42] <Extreme_Unction> http://www.sexy-nerd.com/snesroms.php
[05:43] <duckdown> right on!
[05:43] <duckdown> it has good ones
[05:43] <duckdown> super punch out ;)
[05:43] <duckdown> thanks
[05:44] <klaus> hey
[05:44] <klaus> i need help
[05:45] <klaus> can sum1 tell me how i can get java so that i can run frostwire?
[05:45] <frank23> !java
[05:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:45] <Extreme_Unction> Weeeeeelllllll
[05:45] <Extreme_Unction> I can help you klaus
[05:45] <klaus> awesome
[05:45] <klaus> lol
[05:45] <Extreme_Unction> http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[05:45] <Extreme_Unction> Download that, and dpkg -i it
[05:45] <Extreme_Unction> Then do
[05:46] <klaus> i have the jadeide.zip pack
[05:46] <klaus> i'm new to linux.. baby sets man lol
[05:46] <klaus> i don't know anything lol
[05:46] <Extreme_Unction> Weeeeeeeellllllll
[05:46] <Extreme_Unction> Download http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[05:46] <Extreme_Unction> Thats the proper JRE 1.5
[05:47] <klaus> ooo
[05:47] <klaus> alright
[05:47] <Extreme_Unction> duckdown: We'll netplay in a minute, Contra 3.. ok?
[05:47] <duckdown> you got snes9x?
[05:47] <Extreme_Unction> Tell me when that's done, klaus
[05:47] <duckdown> weird the sound isnt working for super punch out :S
[05:47] <Extreme_Unction> Yeah, I'm setting it up
[05:47] <duckdown> but works great for FF2
[05:47] <duckdown> How can you set it up? Mine is just crappy command line
[05:47] <duckdown> snes9x rom.smc
[05:47] <klaus> extreme how long u gonna b on?... i'm in the process right now
[05:48] <Extreme_Unction> I stay up until work at 5am
[05:48] <Extreme_Unction> So.. All night
[05:48] <klaus> lol
[05:48] <klaus> alright
[05:48] <Extreme_Unction> Anyways, you got an nvidia card?
[05:48] <duckdown> How can i find out what is using /dev/dsp
[05:49] <duckdown> something locked my damn sound
[05:49] <Extreme_Unction> duckdown:Where can I edit resolution/controls?
[05:49] <Extreme_Unction> Hmm.. kill artsd
[05:49] <Extreme_Unction> That's what I do
[05:49] <duckdown> Extreme_Unction: exactly what i'd like to know
[05:49] <duckdown> i just adjust the window size
[05:49] <duckdown> with the cursor
[05:49] <duckdown> theres a detailed readme but i didnt bother :P
[05:50] <duckdown> yay there it goes :) workin again
[05:51] <duckdown> super punch out here i come
[05:51] <duckdown> when you're ready to rock
[05:51] <duckdown> let me know
[05:52] <Extreme_Unction> I'd like to rock right now but I refuse to play without my controls
[05:53] <duckdown> heehee
[05:54] <Extreme_Unction> Whatever, I'll use the lame controls!!
[05:55] <duckdown> oh man i'm ripping it up in punch out
[05:55] <duckdown> i dont know how to netplay though
[05:55] <duckdown> check out the syntax
[05:55] <duckdown> i know it supports it
[05:55] <Extreme_Unction> !
[05:55] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Extreme_Unction
[05:56] <_redondos> hello!
[05:56] <_redondos> how do I enter to another chanell ?
[05:56] <duckdown>  /join
[05:56] <_redondos> with konversation
[05:56] <_redondos> ok
[05:56] <_redondos> thanks
[05:57] <Extreme_Unction> duckdown
[05:57] <Extreme_Unction> Linux snes9x doesn't support netplay I don't believe!!
[05:58] <Extreme_Unction> Plus in the faq he says Zsnes is better netplay.. You should try to fix your audio problem :\
[05:58] <duckdown> sure but how
[05:59] <Extreme_Unction> I could check out your system using remote desktop or something if you want..
[06:00] <duckdown> in kubuntu?
[06:00] <Extreme_Unction> Yes
[06:00] <Extreme_Unction> Do you have Krdc?
[06:02] <Extreme_Unction> Krfb for the server, actually.
[06:02] <duckdown> i doubt you could figure it out without hearing it
[06:02] <duckdown> what the hell could it be..
[06:02] <duckdown> it plays.. but its crackly
[06:02] <Extreme_Unction> hmmm!
[06:02] <duckdown> im in zsnes right now
[06:02] <Extreme_Unction> Do you have the gstreamer0.8-plugins package?
[06:03] <duckdown> whoa
[06:03] <duckdown> mighta fixed it
[06:03] <duckdown> sample rates
[06:04] <Extreme_Unction> Is it fixed, duck?
[06:04] <duckdown> think so, I gotta lower the sample rate by one
[06:04] <duckdown> one setting
[06:04] <duckdown> seems to be good now
[06:04] <duckdown> hang on, let me fool around
[06:04] <Extreme_Unction> Zsnes is much better, anyway!
[06:05] <duckdown> yeah at least it has an interface! lol
[06:05] <Extreme_Unction> Snes9x sucks dick in network play on windows anyway, that being put rightly..
[06:05] <duckdown> hehehe
[06:05] <Extreme_Unction> All I remember is lag playing with someone on a network parallel to mine.
[06:05] <duckdown> :O
[06:06] <Extreme_Unction> Where would be a proper directory to stick Zsnes anyway?
[06:06] <duckdown> usr/local/bin
[06:06] <Extreme_Unction> The whole folder? I'm new to Linux in general.
[06:06] <Extreme_Unction> Or just the executable?
[06:06] <duckdown> im a rookie too :D
[06:06] <duckdown> just the executable
[06:07] <Extreme_Unction> Then where does it get it's config files?
[06:07] <duckdown> did you compile it?
[06:07] <duckdown> you do a 'make'
[06:07] <Extreme_Unction> Yes
[06:07] <duckdown> followed by 'make install'
[06:07] <duckdown> and it does it all for you
[06:07] <Extreme_Unction> Oh! I didn't do make install
[06:07] <Extreme_Unction> Silly fucking me!
[06:07] <duckdown> lol :)
[06:07] <Extreme_Unction> Man
[06:07] <duckdown> haha dont be so hard on yourself :D
[06:07] <Extreme_Unction> Look @ all that ASM code.
[06:08] <Extreme_Unction> That is some crazy emulator
[06:08] <duckdown> ya i know diddly about coding
[06:08] <Extreme_Unction> I like Java and C
[06:08] <Extreme_Unction> but I code a little bit of ASM
[06:08] <Extreme_Unction> Boy, coding ASM for snes is no fun
[06:08] <duckdown> oh man zsnes workin good now
[06:08] <duckdown> punch out runnin sweet
[06:09] <Extreme_Unction> I got a good idea
[06:10] <Extreme_Unction> duckdown: What is a suitable place to stick yer r0ms?
[06:10] <duckdown> just ~/roms
[06:10] <duckdown>  /home/YOU/roms
[06:11] <duckdown> excellent
[06:11] <duckdown> beers are ice cold too
[06:11] <duckdown> beers & snes games
[06:11] <duckdown> sounds like a plan
[06:11] <Extreme_Unction> Haha, I wish I could myself.
[06:11] <duckdown> :)
[06:11] <Extreme_Unction> Hey
[06:11] <Extreme_Unction> www.zbattle.net
[06:11] <Extreme_Unction> It's a battle net thing for zsnes
[06:11] <duckdown> one sec just setting up my MSN
[06:12] <duckdown> i forgot to
[06:12] <Extreme_Unction> Just copy the executable into the same directory as zsnes
[06:12] <duckdown> ok
[06:12] <duckdown> hang on
[06:12] <Extreme_Unction> cp zbat /usr/local/bin then run it.. set up your crap and we'll play
[06:12] <Extreme_Unction> Better then entering IP and there are always people on it!
[06:15] <Extreme_Unction> Ok well duckdown, Tell me when you got zbat up and running and we'll play some contra 3!
[06:16] <duckdown> dcc me the rom i guess
[06:16] <Extreme_Unction> Second
[06:16] <Extreme_Unction> Actually
[06:16] <duckdown> i cant see the link on zbattle.net
[06:16] <duckdown> to download it
[06:16] <Extreme_Unction> it's on sexy-nerd.com
[06:16] <duckdown> i dont have flash installed
[06:17] <Extreme_Unction> Second then
[06:17] <duckdown> hehee thanks
[06:17] <Extreme_Unction> You have QT 3.1.x?
[06:17] <Extreme_Unction> http://zbattle.net/files/zbattle.net-1.09sr1.tar.gz
[06:17] <duckdown> not too sure, its a stock dapper installation
[06:17] <duckdown> kde uses QT
[06:17] <Extreme_Unction> Should
[06:17] <duckdown> so id assume so
[06:17] <Extreme_Unction> Get it there
[06:18] <Extreme_Unction> and get the rom @ sexy-nerd.com
[06:21] <Extreme_Unction> Got it yet, duckdown?
[06:25] <Extreme_Unction> Got it yet, duckdown?
[06:25] <klaus> hey extreme
[06:25] <klaus> i'm back
[06:25] <Extreme_Unction> Hey
[06:25] <klaus> its done
[06:26] <Extreme_Unction> Ok
[06:26] <klaus> now what lol
[06:26] <Extreme_Unction> Now open up Konsole
[06:26] <klaus> do i have to unpack it or anything?
[06:26] <Extreme_Unction> Got it open?
[06:26] <Extreme_Unction> no
[06:26] <klaus> ok
[06:26] <Extreme_Unction> Got Konsole open?
[06:26] <klaus> yea
[06:26] <Extreme_Unction> Type in
[06:27] <Extreme_Unction> sudo dpkg -i Jre1.5.0.bin       (Replace jre.1.5.0.bin with your .deb location)
[06:27] <klaus> where did it save to?
[06:27] <klaus> its not on my desktop
[06:27] <Extreme_Unction> D/W
[06:27] <Extreme_Unction> It did it right?
[06:28] <Extreme_Unction> now do
[06:28] <Extreme_Unction> sudo update-alternatives java
[06:28] <Extreme_Unction> and select the last one
[06:28] <klaus> ok i got it
[06:29] <Extreme_Unction> That's your default Java now
[06:29] <Extreme_Unction> Have phun
[06:29] <Extreme_Unction> What did you need it for, anyway?
[06:29] <Extreme_Unction> do this though..
[06:30] <Extreme_Unction> do the command "java -version" (Minus the quotes) and paste me the output
[06:31] <klaus> hmm
[06:31] <klaus> i can't find the bin file
[06:31] <Extreme_Unction> Well
[06:31] <Extreme_Unction> Just do java -version
[06:31] <Extreme_Unction> real quick
[06:31] <Extreme_Unction> and paste me the output
[06:33] <klaus> control.tar.gz   data.tar.gz   debian-binary
[06:33] <klaus> those are the files i got from it
[06:33] <Extreme_Unction> From java -version??
[06:33] <Extreme_Unction> No!
[06:33] <Extreme_Unction> Just do java -version and paste me the output
[06:33] <Extreme_Unction> No need for ANY of that!
[06:34] <klaus> klaus@gunther:~$ java -version
[06:34] <klaus> java version "1.4.2"
[06:34] <klaus> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[06:34] <klaus> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[06:34] <klaus> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[06:34] <klaus> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[06:34] <klaus> klaus@gunther:~$
[06:34] <robotgeek> !paste
[06:34] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:34] <Extreme_Unction> Ok, you have the bin file.. right?
[06:34] <klaus> i dunno
[06:35] <Extreme_Unction> http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[06:35] <klaus> i sent u all that i got from that thing
[06:35] <klaus> i got 3 files
[06:35] <Extreme_Unction> You need one deb!
[06:35] <Extreme_Unction> Forget bin
[06:35] <Extreme_Unction> I meant deb.. oops
[06:35] <klaus> lol
[06:35] <Extreme_Unction> Do you have the deb file?
[06:35] <klaus> i can't fine it
[06:35] <Extreme_Unction> http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[06:35] <klaus> that link just sent me those 3 files
[06:35] <Extreme_Unction> It sent you a .deb ffs
[06:36] <Extreme_Unction> Look at the trailing url
[06:36] <Extreme_Unction> .deb
[06:36] <klaus> ok
[06:36] <Extreme_Unction> Tell me when you have the .deb
[06:36] <klaus> ok
[06:38] <_redondos> hello
[06:38] <_redondos> a question...
[06:39] <Extreme_Unction> Shoot
[06:39] <_redondos> can anyone recommend me a good sound editor for kubuntu breezy ?
[06:39] <_redondos> i were searching.. but... :(
[06:39] <_redondos> too much dependencies
[06:39] <Extreme_Unction> try sourceforge.net
[06:40] <brydenn> k i need a little help trying to find my windows hard drive heh
[06:40] <brydenn> i thought it woulda mounted automatically or something
[06:40] <[{cool}] > hey
[06:40] <[{cool}] > :)
[06:40] <brydenn> i got my windows HD as a slave
[06:41] <Extreme_Unction> Use the mount command then?
[06:41] <brydenn> well... what is it and how do i know the name of the HD to mount it?
[06:41] <Extreme_Unction> try looking in /media
[06:41] <_redondos> system settings>disk and filesystems
[06:42] <Extreme_Unction> Anyone wanna netplay some zsnes?
[06:42] <_redondos> with setuid root
[06:42] <_redondos> it's sequencial
[06:42] <_redondos> windows partitions can only be stored at first of the hd
[06:42] <_redondos> it's hda1
[06:44] <_redondos> mount it in /media/hda1
[06:46] <duckdown> hey
[06:46] <_redondos> ?
[06:47] <duckdown> i had to do something sorry Extreme_Unction
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> Ahh
[06:48] <Extreme_Unction> Can you grab zbattle.net?
[06:48] <duckdown> yeah
[06:48] <duckdown> i got it
[06:48] <Extreme_Unction> Ok
[06:48] <duckdown> setting up ./zbat right now
[06:48] <Extreme_Unction> ok
[06:48] <Extreme_Unction> Just copy the executable to your bin where zsnes is
[06:48] <Extreme_Unction> brb in 5
[06:54] <Extreme_Unction> duckdown
[06:54] <Extreme_Unction> I'm bback
[06:59] <_redondos> bryden, I cant post private msgs
[06:59] <_redondos> write here!
[07:00] <brydenn> ok i did what you asked
[07:00] <brydenn> and i see my HD in Disk & Filesystems
[07:00] <brydenn> but i still dont know how to mount it say... on the desktop or whatever so I can access it as usual
[07:00] <_redondos> well.. there it should say.. the mount point
[07:00] <brydenn> yah its HDB1
[07:00] <_redondos> the folder where it is stored..
[07:00] <_redondos> no.. a folder,
[07:00] <_redondos> thats a dev
[07:01] <brydenn> well where is the mount point for it?
[07:01] <brydenn> do i have to go browsing for it?
[07:01] <_redondos> all is stored in
[07:01] <_redondos> "/media"
[07:02] <_redondos> or go to "storage media"
[07:02] <brydenn> this is F'ed up then
[07:02] <brydenn> ya been there
[07:02] <brydenn> i have 3 cd roms there and a floppy
[07:02] <brydenn> no HDs
[07:02] <_redondos> ...
[07:02] <brydenn> and in reality... i only have 2 physical CD Drives
[07:02] <_redondos> wait
[07:02] <_redondos> yes I see..
[07:02] <_redondos> hdb...
[07:02] <brydenn> k :)
[07:02] <brydenn> yah the dev is HDB1
[07:03] <_redondos> there is a button..
[07:03] <_redondos> "disable"
[07:04] <_redondos> or "enable"
[07:04] <brydenn> disabled
[07:04] <_redondos> did you found it out ?
[07:04] <brydenn> shit brb
[07:04] <_redondos> click
[07:04] <_redondos> enable
[07:04] <_redondos> like root.. always
[07:06] <_redondos> ?
[07:06] <_redondos> yes
[07:16] <klaus> extreme u there?
[07:22] <klaus> hello
[07:22] <klaus> extreme?
[07:23] <_redondos> brydenn ????
[07:26] <me2win> what do i use to mount cue files in kde?
[07:28] <Extreme_Unction> Yeah
[07:28] <frank23> yeehah! I managed to connect to my cell phone with bitpim.sourceforge.net
[07:28] <klaus> hey man
[07:28] <klaus> ok
[07:28] <klaus> i'm ryd
[07:28] <klaus> rdy
[07:28] <klaus> found the deb file
[07:28] <klaus> but there are 2
[07:28] <Extreme_Unction> What the fuck
[07:29] <Extreme_Unction> I gave you the DIRECT LINK to one DEB file.
[07:29] <me2win> !cue
[07:29] <ubotu> me2win: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:29] <klaus> the same thing... ones .deb and the other is .deb.part
[07:29] <me2win> !mount
[07:29] <ubotu> hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:29] <Extreme_Unction> .deb.part means you didn't download it all the way
[07:29] <klaus> ok
[07:29] <klaus> i'll delete that one?
[07:29] <Extreme_Unction> No
[07:29] <Extreme_Unction> both are fucked
[07:30] <klaus> well wtf
[07:33] <klaus> give me that link again..
[07:33] <klaus> i'll just redownload it yet again
[07:34] <robotgeek> Extreme_Unction: please mind your language
[07:34] <klaus> extreme?
[07:36] <Extreme_Unction> I'm sorry, but the issue here is you need to learn how to download a file.
[07:36] <Extreme_Unction> Sorry.
[07:36] <klaus> lol
[07:36] <klaus> well whats the problem?
[07:36] <Extreme_Unction> a .part is made when a file is downloading/was partially downloaded
[07:36] <Extreme_Unction> That's the problem
[07:36] <Extreme_Unction> Meaning you don't have it downloaded.
[07:36] <klaus> yea but i had both the .deb and one .deb.part
[07:36] <Extreme_Unction> the .deb is made too
[07:37] <klaus> ok
[07:37] <Extreme_Unction> but it's not complete
[07:37] <klaus> well what would cause the download to fail?
[07:37] <klaus> that one downloaded til atleat up in the 90 sum % bc i went to get food and it was still goin at 91% i think
[07:38] <Extreme_Unction> Delete them both and redownload them, then..
[07:38] <klaus> i am
[07:38] <klaus> i need the link
[07:38] <klaus> if u would sir
[07:39] <Extreme_Unction> http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[07:39] <_redondos> bye bye
[07:39] <_redondos> I love you all
[07:39] <_redondos> hahaha!
[07:40] <klaus> the download automatically starts..
[07:40] <klaus> it selects the file
[07:40] <Extreme_Unction> Then don't use Konqueror
[07:40] <klaus> i don't have anything else
[07:40] <Extreme_Unction> Get firefox or something
[07:40] <klaus> i just started gettin inot linx.
[07:40] <klaus> ..
[07:40] <klaus> yesterday lol
[07:40] <Extreme_Unction> Your job to get the file..
[07:40] <klaus> i can find the folder tho..
[07:40] <Extreme_Unction> ok
[07:41] <Extreme_Unction> I have work to do
[07:41] <klaus> i know
[07:41] <Extreme_Unction> (Type lynx in console?..)
[07:41] <klaus> not found
[07:42] <klaus> ok fuck it
[07:42] <klaus> i'll let this thing download 2night
[07:42] <klaus> i'll talk to sum1 bout it tomorrow morning
[07:43] <Extreme_Unction> k
[07:43] <klaus> thanks for tryin to help me out tho
[07:45] <sambagirl> anything such as themes for kubuntu?
[07:46] <Extreme_Unction> kde-look.org
[07:46] <Extreme_Unction> ttyl all I gotta get on FreeBSD for a bit
[07:46] <carlk> !ubotu seen
[07:48] <sambagirl> thank you
[07:51] <ronaldson40> how do i enable irda on the laptop
[07:54] <ronaldson40> hi
[07:54] <ronaldson40> anybody....
[07:54] <robotgeek> hey ronaldson40
[07:56] <ronaldson40> hi
[07:56] <ronaldson40> I installed the Irda tools from Adept
[07:56] <ronaldson40> however I cannot find where can i enable the Irda
[07:57] <robotgeek> ronaldson40: lemme google
[07:57] <ronaldson40> k
[07:57] <robotgeek> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/IrDA/IrDA.html this page has details at the bottom
[07:57] <robotgeek> ronaldson40: ^^
[07:58] <ronaldson40> I am checkin it out
[07:59] <ronaldson40> robotgeek can i download this package thru adept
[07:59] <robotgeek> !info irda-utils
[07:59] <ubotu> irda-utils: (IrDA management and handling utilities), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.16-9ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 264 kB
[08:00] <ronaldson40> yah i installed that
[08:00] <ronaldson40> but i cannot find it on the settings page
[08:00] <ronaldson40> I mean the system and settings page
[08:02] <ronaldson40> how do i activate it
[08:02] <me2win> !scp
[08:02] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win
[08:25] <_root> hi
[08:25] <ronaldson40> I downloaded the flash player installer for konqueror
[08:25] <ronaldson40> and installed it in directory /usr/lib/mozilla
[08:26] <ronaldson40> however it still says flash not detecte
[08:26] <ronaldson40> d
[08:28] <ronaldson40> how do i resolve this
[08:28] <robotgeek> ronaldson40: sorry, no clue
[08:29] <ronaldson40> k
[08:36] <[Vampis] > morning :)
[08:38] <_redondos> say something
[08:39] <[Vampis] > "something"
[08:39] <[Vampis] > there..
[08:39] <[Vampis] > happy ?
[08:39] <_redondos> tell a joke
[08:39] <[Vampis] > ok
[08:39] <[Vampis] > Do you have a mirror there you are=?
[08:40] <_redondos> ???
[08:40] <[Vampis] > yes or no ?
[08:40] <_redondos> haha
[08:40] <[Vampis] > now u got it :P
[08:41] <_redondos> "in a world without frontiers, who needs Gates and Windows..."
[08:42] <Extreme_Unction> Anyone wanna play Contra 3?
[08:43] <_redondos> algun rgentino por aca ???
[08:44] <_redondos> algun Argentino por aca mierda???
[08:49] <GullyFoyle> amarok won't start for me after i installed gstreamer0.8-mad and amarok xine. where can i paste the rror message so someone can help?
[08:50] <Extreme_Unction> get gstreamer0.8-plugins and also make sure your engine is gstreamer and output module is alsasink (If you use ALSA, which you should!)
[08:51] <GullyFoyle> it won't start
[08:51] <GullyFoyle> it hangs on the splash
[08:51] <GullyFoyle> with an error window
[08:52] <GullyFoyle> before it was using gstreamer engine and alsa. now i can't even look because it wont start
[09:10] <farous> !seen ilba7r
[09:10] <ubotu> ilba7r <n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 5d 2h 36m 8s ago, saying: '!xgl'.
[09:22] <GullyFoyle> yay i finally got amarok working
[09:23] <[Vampis] > nice :)
[09:23] <[Vampis] > how did u fix it ?
[09:27] <GullyFoyle> ha dto change owner of /var/tmp/kdecache-"me"/ksycoca to me. it was owned by root for some reason after i installed amrok-xine and gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:28] <[Vampis] > nice call of you to find it
[09:28] <[Vampis] > :)
[09:28] <[Vampis] > I'll never would have foundit
[09:29] <GullyFoyle> error messages helped
[09:29] <GullyFoyle> ran it from console to track errors
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> thsts a bug then ;) error messages arnt supposed to help :O
[09:29] <tijn_> hehe
[09:29] <GullyFoyle> har har
[09:29] <tijn_> lameass
[09:29] <tijn_> :(
[09:29] <tijn_> erhm :) i mean
[09:30] <GullyFoyle> helpful
[09:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[09:32] <GullyFoyle> amarok is cool even using fluxbox i can run mouse over icon in systray to change volume
[09:34] <GullyFoyle> fluxbox compiled with kde support is faster than kde
[09:34] <GullyFoyle> works for me
[09:35] <morrow> WIN-Key & numpad +/- works also ;-)
[09:36] <GullyFoyle> oh yeah cool
[09:37] <GullyFoyle> thx morrow, ya think i'd look some of this up eh?
[09:38] <GullyFoyle> wow there's a lot of shortcuts
[09:39] <GullyFoyle> get some use outta that WIN key
[09:39] <morrow> yeah well.. my notebook has no win key
[09:40] <GullyFoyle> you can reconfigure thouh
[09:40] <morrow> i know but i'm already using every meta key :)
[09:41] <chafe> i just installed
[09:41] <chafe> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[09:41] <chafe> i just installed
[09:41] <chafe> i cannot edit /etc/hosts
[09:41] <chafe> without root
[09:41] <chafe> and i cant hostname newhostname without root either
[09:42] <chafe> how do i fix this problem with sudo without being root??
[09:42] <GullyFoyle> sudo nano /etc/hosts doesnt work?
[09:42] <chafe> no
[09:42] <chafe> sudo gives me this error
[09:43] <chafe> i havent touched the installation yet, its fresh
[09:43] <chafe> is this going to happen every time i install and dont call myself "localhost" ?
[09:44] <GullyFoyle> what error does sudo give you?
[09:44] <chafe> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[09:49] <chafe> aye, recovery mode
[09:49] <chafe> thanks guys
[10:23] <Supervisor> Is there anyway I can download all the updates and burn them on a CD?
[10:23] <Supervisor> I don't have a good internet connection at home so I have o fetch the files at work
[10:24] <Supervisor> And at work I merely have windows
[10:24] <Chousuke> There's apt-zip but I don't know if there's a windiws version of it.
[10:24] <tijn_> dunno
[10:24] <Chousuke> windows*
[10:25] <tijn_> dl'ing the packages and burning them would work, but you need linux i think
[10:25] <Supervisor> I just want to know if there is a single rep where I can download all the patches
[10:26] <Supervisor> cause there is no way to know which packages I need exactly
[10:26] <Chousuke> Supervisor: you could download all the .debs, but that's a lot of work :/
[10:26] <Chousuke> you could download the entire repository, too, but it's huge. :P
[10:26] <Supervisor> Isn't there a single /update path for Breezy?
[10:37] <ita> buon giorno
[10:39] <ita> (not kubuntu, more kde specific i fear) - is there a keyboard shortcut like windows-m (minimize ALL windows / show desktop) with kde ?!
[10:40] <Supervisor> Yes ita
[10:40] <Supervisor> Ctrl + Alt + D
[10:41] <Supervisor> You can set it however you like in KControl
[10:42] <ita> nice!
[10:42] <ita> thank you .. i missed that :)
[10:42] <Supervisor> You're welcome
[10:43] <xChomp> hi
[10:44] <Supervisor> Hi xChomp
[10:44] <xChomp> when i try to remove kaffeine, aptitude says that he wants to remove the kubuntu-desktop too. what exactly does that mean? will it remove the whole kde with all its applications?
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> it's what's used to install Kubuntu from the cd
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can remove it if you want, but upgrades to the next version of Kubuntu may not go as smoothly
[10:46] <xChomp> i see.. ok, thanks Kamping_Kaiser
[10:54] <hirs> hi
[10:55] <xChomp> hi hirs
[10:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[10:56] <xChomp> where can i see which package contains a special file? i have an application here called kbtserialchat, but if i wanna remove it with aptitude it says not found.
[10:57] <[Vampis] > qpopmenu.h
[10:57] <[Vampis] > cant find wich package to install to get that
[10:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-cache search not helping?
[10:57] <hirs> [Vampis] : it seems part of qt3-dev
[10:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> [Vampis] : look in -dev files
[10:58] <hirs> [Vampis] : you can search at packages.ubuntu.com
[10:58] <[Vampis] > I did that
[10:58] <hirs> you can search by file
[10:58] <hirs> the second search box
[10:59] <[Vampis] > weee
[10:59] <[Vampis] > thanks :)
[10:59] <hirs> does konqueror support smooth wheel scroll like firefox?
[10:59] <[Vampis] > *compiling*
[11:00] <[Vampis] > it worked :D
[11:01] <cyne> anyone here tried kubuntu and ubuntu ?
[11:01] <hirs> Has any one made work mouse gestures on KDE?
[11:02] <hirs> cyne: me
[11:02] <cyne> hirs, which do you prefer, and why?
[11:02] <hatake_kakashi> cyne: different users different tastes
[11:02] <hirs> i tried ubuntu for 3 months, but i finally switch to kubuntu, I love kde
[11:02] <cyne> ok
[11:03] <cyne> i'm downloading ubuntu at the moment
[11:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> fwiw, i don't particularly like KDE, or the KDE blue :)
[11:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> so i use ubuntu (in answer to your question)
[11:03] <hirs> Kamping_Kaiser: you have themes ;)
[11:04] <hatake_kakashi> I was on KDE for a while till I somewhat got sick of a process named gam_server so I switched to Gnome and I'm somewhat addicted to it after splitting a few hairs ;) *technically, it was a little challenging however I got around to get Gnome to my tastes*
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) not a themey person
[11:04] <hirs> there is also a simplekde project for those who likes simplicity
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> hatake_kakashi: Gnome had that problem as well. ( ist a Gnome daemon isnt it?)
[11:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> all good now:)
[11:05] <xChomp> where are my alsa mixer settings stored?
[11:06] <hatake_kakashi> Kamping_Kaiser: yeah its still bugging me every so often on KDE but on Gnome that has somewhat gone down a bit. However it still is annoying when you don't really want it
[11:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> hatake_kakashi: i agree about anoying.
[11:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi ubuntu
[11:06] <ubuntu> hi zusammen ;)
[11:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb :)
[11:07] <xChomp> guten morgen, demotape ;)
[11:07] <demotape> morgen xChomp
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> i just had a thought - if you unmount a sata hdd, you could hot swapt it couldnt you? because it's using the same bus (scsi) as usb drives do
[11:08] <demotape> htte mal ne frage, kann mann die Live DVD irgendwie instalen?
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> !de
[11:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:08] <demotape> ahh ^^
[11:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> and i think the answer is yes
[11:10] <xChomp> Kamping_Kaiser: where are the alsa mixer settings stored?
[11:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> xChomp: not sure.
[11:12] <fatejudger> is dmix broken in ALSA?
[11:13] <fatejudger> KDE seems to grab up the sound system and not let it go
[11:13] <fatejudger> as does gstreamer and Xine
[11:13] <zax1> hello
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> i thought KDE used esd?
[11:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> er
[11:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> arts
[11:18] <fatejudger> Kamping_Kaiser: it does
[11:18] <_silje> hi everybody, is there someone who can help me to get my alsa drivers work?
[11:18] <fatejudger> I was just saying that gstreamer and xine have the same problem as well
[11:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah aok
[11:22] <_silje> omg, i have sound, its just that i cant get sound when i play wmv files
[11:27] <hirs> _silje:  do you have win32 codecs installed?
[11:28] <hirs> w32codecs package
[11:28] <_silje> hirs: yes
[11:28] <_silje> hirs: i see the movie, but no sound
[11:28] <hirs> wich player are you using?
[11:28] <_silje> hirs: beep
[11:29] <hirs> hum.. did you tried mplayer or kaffeine?
[11:30] <_silje> hirs: ive tried kaffeine, it didnt work, so I followed i guide i found after a quick google search, it told me to install beep media player, it worked 50%, but i cant get sound
[11:32] <hirs> _silje: bmp to play videos? strange guide.. mplayer has better codec support (the best in linux i think)
[11:33] <_silje> is it just to do a "sudo apt-get install mplayer" or do i have to do other things, im a real newb so i cant do pretty much at my own
[11:34] <tijn_> erhm, not sure but i think there is a mirc and xchat exploit
[11:35] <hirs> _silje: yes
[11:35] <_silje> before i switched to kubuntu i had gentoo, it worked just to emerge mplayer, and  it could play wmv files, but i tought that gentoo was harder than kubuntu, and that kubuntu was more "automatic" tha gentoo, so i switch, now im not so sure anymore
[11:35] <_silje> couldnt find the package mplayer
[11:35] <hirs> _silje: if doesn't work add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[11:35] <_silje> ok hiris
[11:36] <raphink> mplayer is not in universe
[11:36] <raphink> it is in multiverse
[11:36] <raphink> iird
[11:36] <hirs> multiverse?
[11:36] <raphink> iirc
[11:36] <raphink> yeah
[11:36] <hirs> _silje: sorry, change universe for multiverse
[11:36] <raphink> and putting it in multiverse is already a risk ;)
[11:37] <_silje> hirs: okey, so it will be now " deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
[11:37] <raphink> _silje: it's not that kubuntu is more automatized than gentoo or not
[11:38] <raphink> _silje: gentoo packages anything, doesn't matter whether it has a licence or not, or whatever might be a problem
[11:38] <farous> raphink: whay the risk ?
[11:38] <hirs> _silje: yes, don't forget to do a apt-get update after adding the source
[11:38] <_silje> i did
[11:38] <raphink> _silje: we try to not provide any app, and provide only free apps by default
[11:38] <_silje> or, im doing it now
[11:38] <galvez> hello
[11:38] <raphink> farous: juridic risk. mplayer shouldn't be redistributed iirc
[11:38] <farous> ok thanx
[11:39] <farous> is it the same also with gs-afpl
[11:39] <_silje> so raphink: whats the diffrence between gentoo and ubuntu with kde?
[11:39] <_silje> raphink: i use linux because i hate microsoft and all with it, and dont realy know the diffrence
[11:40] <raphink> how do you mean with kde ?
[11:40] <raphink> the main difference between gentoo and ubuntu is the package system
[11:40] <_silje> hirs: i did
[11:40] <_silje> sorry, ignore my last post
[11:40] <hirs> _silje: for me the difference was in app installation speed :)
[11:41] <raphink> _silje: gentoo provides ebuilds to be built by users with emerge, ubuntu focuses on binary packages for users
[11:41] <_silje> hirs: isnt that because gentoo compiles all, that makes it a bit faster, but not very?
[11:41] <galvez> excuseme, im new to linux, i installed kubuntu 5.10 just now, i opened a terminal and realized i didnt liked de name of the computer so i did this: sudo nano-w /etc/hosts and changed it for the one i like
[11:42] <galvez> but now i cant make sudo anymore, can any of u guys help me ?
[11:42] <tijn_> DCC SEND "ircsucks" 0 0 0
[11:42] <DrJoene> erhm, tijn? wtf?
[11:42] <tijn_> ups
[11:42] <hirs> _silje: yes, once installed it's a bit faster, but I don't like to wait 2h to update kde
[11:43] <raphink> galvez: /etc/hosts is not where to change your machine name. You should change it in /etc/hostname and have it fit with /etc/hosts
[11:43] <galvez> raphink: but i cant do sudo anymore, it wont let me change anything
[11:43] <raphink> galvez: did you set a root password ?
[11:43] <_silje> now mplayer plays wmv files, with sound. But i cant change the aspect ration
[11:43] <_silje> now mplayer plays wmv files, with sound. But i cant change the aspect ratio**
[11:44] <galvez> raphink: no, i dont think so
[11:44] <galvez> do i have to reinstall everything ?
[11:45] <raphink> galvez: there are other options, but if you don't want to have further problems, I'd suggest you reinstall. I also suggest you think about the name of your host before installing ;)
[11:45] <galvez> ok thank you very much
[11:47] <raphink> :)
[11:50] <[Vampis] > anyone that nows how i set a password to my bluetooth ?
[11:50] <[Vampis] > I havnt set any and when my phone tries to connect to my computer, it asks for password
[11:50] <[Vampis] > I use kubuntu breezy kde 3.5.1
[11:51] <visik7> 1234
[11:52] <[Vampis] > ok ?
[11:52] <[Vampis] > *tries*
[11:53] <visik7> [Vampis] : cat /etc/bluetooth/pin
[11:53] <[Vampis] > thank u
[11:53] <[Vampis] > =)
[11:53] <[Vampis] > so i can change it to whatever I want ?
[11:54] <allee> [Vampis] : No! ;)
[11:55] <allee> [Vampis] : it should match the pin code of the bluetooth device
[11:59] <[Vampis] > eeh ?
[11:59] <[Vampis] > the PHONE asks for the password to the computer bluetooth
[12:00] <allee> [Vampis] : pin code or password is the same here.
[12:01] <[Vampis] > yes, but then I should type in 1234 on the phone ?
[12:01] <allee> [Vampis] : set the bt password in the phone (1234 is a bit lame choice)
[12:02] <allee> [Vampis] : set the same in /etc/bluetooth/pin
[12:03] <allee> lunch bbl
[12:03] <[Vampis] > I cant set password in the phone
[12:03] <allee> [Vampis] : then check phone docs for preset value
[12:03] <allee> bbl
[12:04] <zax1> hello
[12:04] <zax1> wonder if any one can help with configuring a linux unit on a windows network
[12:05] <raphink> what's the problem zax1?
[12:06] <zax1> i installed kubuntu on a system, now i want it to joing the workgroup of the other windows computers
[12:06] <raphink> you need to install samba
[12:06] <zax1> samba ?
[12:07] <raphink> hmm not even sure actually
[12:07] <raphink> well did you try smb:/ on konqueror?
[12:07] <zax1> !google samba
[12:07] <ubotu> zax1: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:07] <raphink> lol
[12:07] <raphink> zax1: try putting smb:/ in the url bar in konqueror
[12:07] <raphink> and see what you get
[12:08] <zax1> thanks
[12:09] <m0ns00n> startkeylogger stopkeylogger
[12:09] <m0ns00n> :-)
[12:09] <Chousuke> :P
[12:09] <m0ns00n> hehe
[12:09] <m0ns00n> ^^
[12:09] <Chousuke> I somehow doubt that many people on this channel use norton.
[12:10] <ba-student> hi i need a textbrowser... how can i download it ?
[12:10] <raphink> links or lynx
[12:10] <raphink> are good choices ba-student
[12:10] <raphink> if you mean a text-based internet browser
[12:11] <ba-student> yeah i know but i donno how to get it i have got somethink like this
[12:11] <raphink> sudo apt-get install links
[12:11] <raphink> or
[12:11] <raphink> sudo apt-get install lynx
[12:11] <ba-student> apt-get install links2
[12:11] <raphink> depending on which you want ;)
[12:11] <raphink> yeah or links2
[12:12] <ba-student> but there comes an error: cannot find packafe links
[12:12] <raphink> did you apt-get update ?
[12:13] <ba-student> no how can i do that ?
[12:13] <ba-student> just apt-get update ?
[12:13] <raphink> sudo apt-get update
[12:13] <raphink> then you try
[12:13] <raphink> sudo apt-get install links2
[12:13] <raphink> again
[12:13] <raphink> ;)
[12:14] <ba-student> mh ok i made the update and there came
[12:14] <ba-student> reading packafe lists... done
[12:15] <ba-student> then i tried links again
[12:15] <ba-student> but it is the same error again :[
[12:15] <raphink> hmm
[12:15] <raphink> did you activate universe?
[12:15] <ba-student> ^^ sorry don't know that that is
[12:15] <raphink> then you didn't ;)
[12:15] <ba-student> :]  i think so too
[12:15] <raphink> edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines
[12:16] <raphink> or use adept to do so
[12:16] <ba-student> alright ;D
[12:16] <raphink> then apt-get update again
[12:16] <raphink> you can activate the multiverse lines, too
[12:16] <raphink> that can be useful
[12:16] <raphink> for mp3 and other stuff like that
[12:17] <puckman> I reckon they should make a splash screen when you first install it "if you want stuff you need to add these lines in apt"
[12:17] <raphink> hmmm
[12:17] <raphink> well
[12:18] <raphink> no I don't think we should do that
[12:19] <ba-student> alright now it works ;D
[12:19] <raphink> good
[12:19] <ba-student> thank you !!
[12:19] <raphink> :)
[12:20] <ba-student> can you also tell me how i can change the display soltuion in the x server ?
[12:20] <raphink> you have to reset the x server
[12:20] <raphink> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:21] <raphink> hi Hobbsee
[12:21] <Hobbsee> hey raphink
[12:22] <raphink> how are you today?
[12:22] <Hobbsee> i'm ok - went to uni all day, then went to work
[12:23] <raphink> :s
[12:25] <weedar> Anyone feels qualified to guess what a pentium laptop is most likely to have memory-wize?
[12:28] <Riis> a buddy of mine just uninstalled gcc, and it seems apt decided to uninstall itself in the process
[12:29] <Riis> is there an apt-tarball you can fetch and get apt running again?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> Riis: use aptitude instead?
[12:39] <fatejudger> what the hell is up with dmix not working?
[12:39] <fatejudger> I can't play more than one thing at a time
[12:39] <fatejudger> without other things complaining that the sound system is taken
[12:40] <Pupeno_> What do I need to install on my kubuntu to access samba printers ? the dialog for adding a new printer has samba printers greyed out.
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> you cant accidently uninstall apt
[12:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> it stops you and says "are you sure, type 'yess i am sure i want to do this':
[12:47] <DaveQB> so there's no "File Association" in the Kubuntu System Settings app ??  Have to navigate through a Kmenu listing to see all the components of Kcontrol
[12:56] <pulver> DaveQB: why not run kcontrol?
[12:57] <allee> Pupeno_: smbclient for /usr/bin/smbspool
[12:58] <Pupeno_> allee: thanks.
[01:02] <Pupeno_> allee: I've installed smbclient but it is still grayed out.
[01:02] <DaveQB> pulver:  i see.  But Kcontrol is not in the Kmenu.  I thought "System Settings" was just an enhanced Kcontrol, didnt know it had anything removed :-/
[01:04] <allee> Pupeno_: ls -l /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb   # is smb a link to smbspool
[01:05] <Pupeno_> yes.
[01:06] <allee> Pupeno_: mhmm...
[01:08] <bobthelot> Pupeno_: are you in adminstrator mode? have you restarted the K
[01:08] <Pupeno_> I haven't restarted K.
[01:08] <bobthelot> Kcontrol
[01:08] <Pupeno_> oh, that, yes.
[01:09] <Pupeno_> I didn't need administrator mode to add a samba printer on my wife's computer (kubuntu as well).
[01:09] <allee> Pupeno_: who did you try to add the printer with http://localhost:631
[01:09] <allee> s/who/how/
[01:10] <Pupeno_> allee: no, not with the web interface
[01:11] <allee> Pupeno_: can you try?
[01:12] <allee> Pupeno_: here I see 'Windows printer via Samba' as expected
[01:12] <allee> .. in the web interface
[01:12] <Pupeno_> cups asks for a username and a password...
[01:13] <Pupeno_> restarted cups and now it is no longer grayed out! :)
[01:14] <allee> Pupeno_: :)
[01:16] <Pupeno_> thank you.
[01:34] <_stian> people, anyone that can help me with this?
[01:34] <_stian> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=788337#post788337
[01:38] <Skrot> _stian: What are you trying to compile?
[01:39] <_stian> trying to compile this http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/
[01:39] <Skrot> _stian: You most likely lack libavcodec-dev and libavformat-dev
[01:39] <_stian> ill try those
[01:40] <Skrot> _stian: Si ifra om det er noe mer som manger da ;)
[01:40] <_stian> s du er norsk :)
[01:40] <Skrot> Mye som tyder p det ja ;)
[01:41] <_stian> kunne nesten sett det utifra "skrot" navnet ditt...er vel ikke noe engelsk ord det nei
[01:41] <Skrot> Ikke som jeg vet om nei =)
[01:41] <_stian> :)
[01:41] <_stian> fikk samme error, men skal prve noe, 2sec
[01:42] <pulver> is there any firefox themes that only applies to the icons in the navbar?
[01:42] <_stian> nope, no go skrot. samme error
[01:42] <Skrot> _stian: At du mangler avcodec.h og avformat.h?
[01:43] <_stian> er newbie her, s hvordan skaffer jeg dem?
[01:44] <weedar> S mange nordmenn det plutselig var her da
[01:44] <Skrot> De ligger i de to pakkene jeg gav deg navnet p. Og begge de to er installert?
[01:44] <tijn_> whut?
[01:44] <_stian> de er installert ja
[01:44] <Skrot> Norway loves kubuntu ;)
[01:44] <_stian> (mye norsk det ble n ja)
[01:44] <_stian> we sure love kubuntu, yes!
[01:45] <weedar> Personally I have more of a platonic relationship with my OS, but I won't judge you
[01:45] <Skrot> _stian: You're sure it's the exact same error with the exact same "codecs.h:12:28: error: ffmpeg/avcodec.h: No such file or directory"?
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> platonic?
[01:45] <Skrot> A very non-profound relationship
[01:45] <_stian> men fatter fremdeles ikke hva som er galt, p den brbare maskina funker det fjell, og ser ikke at jeg har installert noe mer der
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> Skrot: ahh ok thanks
[01:45] <_stian> 2sec
[01:47] <_stian> skrot, skal poste outputen i bloggen min, 2sec
[01:47] <Skrot> okay =)
[01:47] <_stian> www.pretending.net  ble et utrolig rot da men
[01:47] <_stian> vnt
[01:48] <_stian> www.justpretendig.net
[01:49] <Skrot> hmm
[01:49] <_stian> noe peiling?
[01:50] <Skrot> Is this a svn/cvs/something release of the program, or is it a stable release?
[01:50] <Skrot> Cause to get "?CAP_AVI? undeclared" it's either broken, or you still lack the file which declares CAP_AVI
[01:50] <_stian> dont really know, i can try to compile some stable package instead
[01:50] <_stian> hold on
[01:50] <_stian> gotta find one
[01:51] <Skrot> Try getting liblame-dev
[01:51] <_stian> ok, 2sec
[01:52] <Skrot> Try liblame0 as well
[01:52] <Skrot> And run ./configure again
[01:52] <_stian> will do
[01:52] <_stian> i had lblame0
[01:52] <_stian> will try to compile with the other one though
[01:53] <_stian> hang on
[01:53] <_stian> same error
[01:53] <_stian> will try with a stable package, hang on
[01:55] <_stian> sure takes some time to configure this one..
[01:55] <Skrot> You might want to have a look at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8822029&forum_id=36036
[01:56] <_stian> looks familiar ;)
[01:57] <Skrot> "...tm you MUST configure using --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg --with-gtk2"
[01:57] <_stian> how do i do that, just ./configure followed by it?
[01:57] <Skrot> yupp
[01:57] <_stian> okay
[01:58] <_stian> will try when im done with the sudo make on the stable package
[01:58] <_stian> takes a crapload of time
[01:58] <_stian> (compiling kftpgrabber)
[01:58] <Skrot> hehe =)
[01:58] <_stian> hehe
[02:00] <_stian> good god! still "making" over here..
[02:01] <Skrot> What kind of machine? =)
[02:01] <_stian> 2.8ghz pentium D, 1gig of ddr2 ram, 200s-ata disk... so its kinda wierd
[02:01] <_stian> but hey, it just completed, but with errors
[02:01] <_stian> make[1] : *** [all-recursive]  Error 1
[02:01] <_stian> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/stian/Desktop/kftpgrabber-0.7.0-beta1'
[02:01] <_stian> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[02:03] <_stian> trying with --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg --with-gtk2 on that other program again
[02:03] <_stian> even if that works, it still sucks that i can't compile other packages, any idea on what more i may be missing?
[02:04] <_stian> nope, no go even with the --with-forced-embedded-ffmpeg --with-gtk2
[02:05] <Skrot> okay, you probably need to use "make gvidcap" instead of "make"
[02:06] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[02:06] <_stian> do i need to configure again to try that?
[02:06] <Skrot> nope
[02:07] <_stian> okay
[02:07] <_stian> nope
[02:07] <_stian> exited with errors
[02:07] <linuxboyfriend> i was install a package and configure gave this error: "Configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake)
[02:07] <linuxboyfriend> i was install a package and configure gave this error: "Configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed"
[02:08] <Skrot> What are you trying to compile?
[02:08] <Skrot> _stian: okay. Seems that program has issues (judging by the sf forum) :>
[02:08] <_stian> yes
[02:08] <_stian> so lets just forget abut that program, doesnt matter, dont really need it
[02:08] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: i am compiling some enomics related software
[02:08] <_stian> but i really want to be able to compile other programs :(
[02:09] <Skrot> _stian: what errors did you get on the KDE program you tried to compile?
[02:09] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: can you tell me how can i fix this error?
[02:09] <Skrot> linuxboyfriend: Try sudo apt-get install xmkmf
[02:10] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: it says that xmkmf is already installed
[02:10] <Skrot> okay. That package is compiled with a build system I'm not familiar with :>
[02:10] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: it gave another message lemme tell you that message also :)
[02:11] <ba-student> hey i configured my xorg.conf but i am still not able to have another display solution
[02:12] <_silje> anyone had a problem starting limewire?
[02:12] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: "Make sure you all necessary X development packages installed. On some systems a missing /lib/cpp symlink is at fault" thats the another message
[02:12] <_stian> ill be right back, but let me know if you think of something skrot
[02:13] <_stian> er du norsk silje?
[02:13] <Skrot> _stian: sure, I just need the rest of the error =)
[02:13] <Skrot> _silje: There's limewire for linux now? :)
[02:13] <_stian> hang on, ill have to do it again then
[02:13] <Skrot> _stian: post it somewhere, dont paste :)
[02:13] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: i think you dont have any idea?
[02:13] <_stian> :)
[02:14] <Skrot> linuxboyfriend: hang on
[02:14] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: :) ok
[02:14] <Skrot> linuxboyfriend: Try getting xlibs-dev
[02:14] <linuxboyfriend> Skrot: ok lemme try
[02:15] <_silje> Skrot: yes
[02:15] <_silje> Skrot: didnt you know that?
[02:15] <Skrot> _silje: I did not :)
[02:15] <_silje> Skrot: ok
[02:15] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: i have installed xlibs-dev, lemme start the configure process again :)
[02:16] <Skrot> linuxboyfriend: go ahead :)
[02:16] <Skrot> _silje: Did you build it from source?
[02:16] <_silje> Well, in my house i got to pcs, one station and one laptop. The station has gentoo and laptop has kubuntu, on gentoo limewire works great, but on my kubuntu it hangs
[02:16] <_silje> Skrot: yes
[02:16] <Skrot> I'll try it, hang on
[02:17] <_stian> skrot: http://justpretending.net/ajfork/blog.php?subaction=showfull&id=1141391808&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&
[02:17] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: no, the error appears again :(
[02:18] <Skrot> linuxboyfriend: What does ls -alh /lib/cpp say?
[02:18] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: ok lemme check
[02:19] <Skrot> _silje: Seems to run fine here :>
[02:20] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: /lib/cpp -> /usr/bin/cpp-4.0
[02:20] <Skrot> linuxboyfriend: damn. :)
[02:20] <_silje> Skrot: what do you sugest me to do?
[02:21] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: i wanna tell you one more thing that I am using gcc-3.4 instead of gcc-4.0
[02:21] <_silje> Skrot: reinstall whole shit and build it from source again?
[02:21] <Skrot> Build from source? I just ran the java version :)
[02:22] <_silje> Skrot: ok, can you gimmie a link to it? (A)
[02:22] <Skrot> _stian: Get libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libdbus-1-2 libdbus-qt-1-dev libdbus-1-dev
[02:22] <_stian> will install em now
[02:22] <Skrot> _silje: Or I could just send it :)
[02:22] <_silje> ok, fine
[02:23] <Skrot> http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther is the link by the way
[02:23] <_silje> thx
[02:24] <linuxboyfriend> SKrot: as xmkmf is installed then why its giving error?
[02:24] <_silje> Skrot: Ok, I am a real newb, tought ive had many linux distros. So I cant solve the rpm problem i have on my kubuntu distro
[02:24] <Skrot> _silje: Such as converting from .rpm to .deb you mean? =)
[02:25] <_silje> Skrot: yes
[02:25] <Skrot> allrighty, the java version seems okay though :)
[02:25] <_silje> Skrot: ill trie it now:)
[02:26] <_silje> but gottat go
[02:26] <_silje> bye
[02:26] <Skrot> Bye :)
[02:27] <_stian> thank you so much skrot! it finally works!!
[02:27] <_stian> thanks!
[02:27] <Skrot> No problems :)
[02:27] <_stian> great ;)
[02:28] <Skrot> It's usually easy as long as it's a missing header or a lib. Use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to search for files (usually header files ending with .h) and if it's a library, such as "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldbus-1" just apt-cache search dbus | grep lib and get everything relevant :P
[02:28] <_pako> c' qualche italiano che puo' aiutarmi?
[02:28] <Skrot> !italian
[02:28] <ubotu> Skrot: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:28] <Skrot> doh
[02:29] <Firetech> hmm the 'koffice' package is held back because it can't install kexi (not available)... koffice 1.5 beta binaries
[02:29] <_mindspin> !it
[02:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:31] <Skrot> !no
[02:31] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[02:31] <Skrot> Guess not :>
[02:31] <_mindspin> !nor
[02:31] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin
[02:34] <_mindspin> !n
[02:34] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _mindspin
[02:36] <KaoticEvil> anyone use a 3dfx voodoo card?
[02:41] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: thats a really old card.
[02:41] <zax1> any one about ?
[02:42] <bipolar> .
[02:42] <tijn_> about what?
[02:42] <Abdul_Mueid> Hello all
[02:42] <bipolar> hi Abdul_Mueid
[02:42] <zax1> i need help installing gforce mx4000 on kubuntu
[02:42] <Abdul_Mueid> how are you bipolar?
[02:42] <bipolar> ok
[02:42] <zax1> i am completely green and a bit miffed by it all
[02:43] <Abdul_Mueid> I want to add a command to startup and I cant find rc.local... any advice?
[02:43] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: what command do you want to add?
[02:44] <Abdul_Mueid> iptables .....
[02:44] <zax1> can any one guide me? or point me to a link where i have more info?
[02:44] <Abdul_Mueid> and echo 1 > ....
[02:44] <Abdul_Mueid> it's to open a connection so I can connect my Nokia to my PC and use internet
[02:44] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: ahh.... I think there is an iptables service iirc... saves and restores an iptables config... let me check...
[02:45] <Abdul_Mueid> ok
[02:45] <Abdul_Mueid> the exact command is: "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQUERADE"
[02:45] <KaoticEvil> bipolar: i know it is...
[02:45] <KaoticEvil> but i really like 3dfx cards
[02:45] <_valentin> hi
[02:45] <Abdul_Mueid> hello _valentin
[02:46] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6963
[02:47] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: couldn't find the iptables service.
[02:47] <Abdul_Mueid> bipolar: bytheway, I am running Dapper
[02:47] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: me too
[02:47] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: what is the issue with the card?
[02:48] <ccc_> ubotu: tell zax1 about nvidia
[02:48] <paines> hi
[02:48] <zax1> thanks ccc_
[02:49] <Abdul_Mueid> hello paines
[02:49] <paines> anyone know what launpad is ? I wanted to log into bugzilla.ubuntu.com, and it says to use launchpad
[02:49] <Abdul_Mueid> bipolar: I am trying to createmy own rc.local and adding the commands to it
[02:50] <Abdul_Mueid> paines: you need to make a Launchpad account
[02:50] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: looks like a better way is to creat /etc/rc.boot dir and add scripts to it.
[02:50] <Abdul_Mueid> I dont have scripts made, and neither I know how to make them :(
[02:50] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: take a look at that whole thread. there are a few options
[02:51] <bipolar> #!/bin/sh
[02:51] <bipolar> echo "I'm a script"!
[02:51] <bipolar> ^^^ very simple script
[02:51] <Abdul_Mueid> can I just create a .sh file starting with #!/bin/sh with my command in it and add it to the rc.boot folder?
[02:52] <bipolar> chmod +x it and put it in /etc/rc.boot... you don't need .sh at the end...
[02:52] <Abdul_Mueid> o.k.
[02:53] <KaoticEvil> bipolar: none as of yet... i havent installed it...
[02:53] <Abdul_Mueid> bipolar:  do I have to type "echo"
[02:53] <KaoticEvil> was just wondering if kubuntu has any issues with 3dfx cards
[02:54] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: no... :) that was the command.... use your own commands ;)
[02:54] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: shouldn't be.
[02:54] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: don't expect any 3D support though
[02:54] <Abdul_Mueid> alright
[02:54] <Abdul_Mueid> thanks alot for the help bipolar :)
[02:54] <KaoticEvil> oh well
[02:54] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: no problem.
[02:54] <KaoticEvil> will still be better than the 1MB onboard intel chip i have now....
[02:54] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: sounds like an old machine.
[02:55] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: old machines are fun to hack on
[02:55] <KaoticEvil> it is an old box.. celly 400... 128MB of PC-100 SDRA<
[02:55] <KaoticEvil> sdram*
[02:55] <KaoticEvil> its an old HP Pavilion that ive done some tweaking to :)
[02:55] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: ahh
[02:55] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: thats not that bad.
[02:56] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: I got a couple of Pentium 90 laptops around ;)
[02:58] <Abdul_Mueid> be back after reboot :)
[02:58] <KaoticEvil> bipolar: i set up a complete mail/web server/internet gateway on a 200MHz sony vaio laptop :)
[02:58] <bipolar> nice
[02:58] <KaoticEvil> worked great too...
[02:59] <bipolar> old machines are great for that stuff
[02:59] <KaoticEvil> i know it
[02:59] <KaoticEvil> ok, well thanks for the info bipolar :)
[02:59] <bipolar> everyone in the windows world thinks you need a lot of power to do that stuff....
[02:59] <bipolar> no prob
[02:59] <KaoticEvil> off hand, do ya know if theres a module for 3dfx cards?
[02:59] <bipolar> hmmm.... I don't know. there is an X driver IIRC
[02:59] <KaoticEvil> i know in xorg.conf, its says exactly the card i have now...
[02:59] <KaoticEvil> yeah?
[03:00] <KaoticEvil> hmmm... ill have to do some more research.. atm, tho, i gotta go hang some clothes :P
[03:00] <bipolar> yeah. I think so. I don't know how much better it would be then the vesa driver though.
[03:00] <bipolar> have fun :P
[03:04] <_silje> hi everyone. Do some people know how to install java, and get it work with firefox
[03:07] <KaoticEvil> sun's java package name is j2re-1.4
[03:07] <_silje> KaoticEvil: Will it "just work" with firefox, or do i have to make some config?
[03:07] <KaoticEvil> dunno
[03:07] <KaoticEvil> lemme try it :)
[03:08] <KaoticEvil> i just installed it this morning heh
[03:08] <_silje> oki:)
[03:09] <KaoticEvil> i wish my DNS servers werent so slow o.o
[03:09] <bipolar> I'm trying to upgrade a breezy box to kde 3.5.1 from kubuntu.org. when I try to install kubuntu-desktop I get a dependancy error.
[03:09] <_silje> :P
[03:10] <bipolar> libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (=0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is to be installed
[03:10] <bipolar> I think that dependancy needs to be >= not =
[03:10] <KaoticEvil> bipolar: installing kubuntu-desktop wont give you kde3.5.1, afaik...
[03:11] <KaoticEvil> !kde3.5
[03:11] <ubotu> (you might want !kde3.5.1) To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[03:11] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: I added the sources lines for it
[03:11] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: and it doesn't have kde now...
[03:11] <KaoticEvil> odd
[03:12] <KaoticEvil> _silje: it "just works" :)
[03:12] <KaoticEvil> all you should have to do is "sudo apt-get install j2re-1.4"
[03:13] <_silje> KaoticEvil: Great
[03:14] <Abdul_Mueid> hey bipolar
[03:14] <_silje> KaoticEvil: Couldnt find the package
[03:15] <Abdul_Mueid> u there?
[03:15] <bipolar> yeah
[03:15] <bipolar> is it working?
[03:16] <Abdul_Mueid> yup
[03:16] <bipolar> good
[03:17] <Abdul_Mueid> So far my installation is perfect
[03:17] <Abdul_Mueid> all hard-drives detected, network folders working, my Nokia is working
[03:18] <bipolar> is there a way to tell apt to ignore dependancys?
[03:18] <Abdul_Mueid> I guess there is
[03:18] <bipolar> I can't find it....
[03:18] <Abdul_Mueid> I haven't used ubuntu for a long time now
[03:18] <bipolar> only for dpkg
[03:19] <Abdul_Mueid> letme also search
[03:19] <Abdul_Mueid> anyway, why would you want to do that?
[03:20] <Abdul_Mueid> try this switch: --ignore-depends
[03:20] <bipolar> I've got a packaging problem....
[03:20] <bipolar> not a valid option
[03:20] <tijn_> whats wrong with your package? :)
[03:21] <bipolar> tijn_: not mine... kubuntu's
[03:21] <tijn_> oow :D
[03:22] <Abdul_Mueid> lol
[03:22] <Abdul_Mueid> bipolar: the -f switch seems to ignore all the dependenciess and force the install
[03:22] <bipolar> tijn_: libpoppler0c2-qt: Depends: libpoppler0c2 (= 0.4.2-0ubuntu6) but 0.4.2-0ubuntu6.6 is to be installed
[03:23] <KaoticEvil> oh, _silje.. my apologies...
[03:23] <bipolar> tijn_: this is with the 3.5.1 packages for brezzy
[03:23] <tijn_> ah
[03:23] <KaoticEvil> its j2re1.4
[03:23] <KaoticEvil> sorry about that
[03:23] <tijn_> apt-get install -f doesnt fix it?
[03:23] <bipolar> nope
[03:24] <KaoticEvil> i need to get some sleep...
[03:24] <KaoticEvil> ill see yall later.. and thanks again bipolar :)
[03:24] <tijn_> take mine
[03:24] <tijn_> he
[03:24] <bipolar> If I could find out exactly where the package was I could use dpkg to force it.
[03:24] <bipolar> but I cant even get apt to download it.
[03:25] <bipolar> always complains about the broken package
[03:25] <Abdul_Mueid> what's the name of the package?
[03:25] <bipolar> ^^ see up... libpoppler...
[03:26] <zax1> for some reason my resolutio is restricted to 640x480 ?
[03:26] <zax1> any idea how i can redetect available resolutions ?
[03:26] <Abdul_Mueid> zax1: change it in xorg.conf
[03:26] <bipolar> zax1: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[03:26] <Abdul_Mueid> bipolar: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/poppler/libpoppler0c2-qt_0.5.0-0ubuntu5_i386.deb
[03:28] <zax1> bipolar where do i type that?
[03:28] <bipolar> Abdul_Mueid: thats the dapper version. this is a brezzy box :\
[03:28] <bipolar> zax1: in a terminal.... use sudo
[03:29] <bipolar> zax1: hit alt+F1, login as yourself, then 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server'
[03:29] <zax1> ok
[03:29] <Abdul_Mueid> bipolar: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libpoppler0c2-qt
[03:30] <_silje> sudo apt-get install j2re-1.4, it says that it cant find the package
[03:30] <_silje> how can i install java that works with mozilla?
[03:30] <_silje> isnt it a bin file for it?
[03:30] <zax1> i dont have it installe bipolar
[03:32] <Abdul_Mueid> gtg.. cYa'll
[03:32] <Abdul_Mueid> bye
[03:33] <bipolar> that was the problem... the package had an update in 'security' and that repo was not set up
[03:33] <bipolar> doh!
[03:33] <bipolar> zax1: let me check something...
[03:34] <Skrot> _silje: Try sudo apt-get update first, and then sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 :)
[03:34] <bipolar> zax1: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:35] <bipolar> zax1: sorry, wrong package name :)
[03:35] <Skrot> _silje: Or you could do it the debian way, by building your own .deb from SUN's .bin (http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142)
[03:36] <_david> !xcfg
[03:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:37] <tijn_> never trust rumours!
[03:38] <pulver> what's the best app to use for video conference between 2 kubuntu systems?
[03:40] <zax1> heheh
[03:40] <zax1> hat was fun
[03:40] <zax1> thanks bipolar, its probably too advnaced for the likes of me, but eventualy got to that place about hte esolution
[03:41] <bipolar> zax1: see if it works.
[03:41] <zax1> its restarting now
[03:41] <bipolar> zax1: the default answers are what ubuntu had autodetected on install.
[03:42] <zax1> after hiting ctrl-alt- bckspace nothing happened so i restarted
[03:46] <zax1> bipolar, it will not boot up now, it hangs at : * checking battery power
[03:46] <bipolar> zax1: :\
[03:46] <zax1> indeed
[03:46] <bipolar> zax1: configuring X has nothing to do with that... hmmm
[03:46] <bipolar> zax1: boot into recovery and try it again I guess...
[03:47] <zax1> how do i boot in to recovery ?
[03:48] <bipolar> zax1: at the grub menu there is a selection for it
[03:48] <zax1> what is a grub menu
[03:49] <zax1> my unit just fires up in to the linux booting thingie
[03:49] <bipolar> grub is the bootloader. it's the first thing that comes up after post.
[03:49] <bipolar> "hit any key to enter grub" or some such when it's booting. only lasts a few sec...
[03:50] <zax1> and by the way, it seems that it does have somehting to do with this xorg, i am looking at ubuntu support and readiung bout other peeps with booting errors after messing with X
[03:50] <zax1> right will give it a go
[03:50] <bipolar> sure... it might not boot all the way to X, but stopping where it did is strange...
[03:51] <zax1> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77588.html
[03:51] <zax1> its also stuck at battery state...
[03:52] <bipolar> zax1: are you using the nvidia driver?
[03:52] <zax1> i think i am, ys
[03:52] <zax1> i have nvidia geforce mx4000
[04:12] <moroni> hi
[04:15] <zax1> bipolar, dou have any idea how to fix this ?
[04:16] <_usama> hi all
[04:16] <_usama> plz help me http://pastebin.com/581942
[04:16] <bipolar> zax1: no idea. were you able to get into recovery mode?
[04:17] <zax1> yes
[04:17] <zax1> but then what , i tryed running the dpkg command again
[04:17] <zax1> to return every thing to the default
[04:17] <zax1> and it still hangs
[04:18] <cringousbr> Hello, I have a corrupted OpenOffice Spreadsheet file, the message was "Format error discovered in the file in sub-document content.xml...". Any hints ?
[04:18] <bipolar> are you using the nvidia binary only driver or the default?
[04:18] <trappist> cringousbr: you're probably screwed, but unzip your file and you'll see content.xml and you can check it out with a text editor
[04:18] <bipolar> cringousbr: if it's corupted, rename it to .zip and unzip it.
[04:18] <zax1> i dont know bipolar
[04:19] <zax1> i used what ever came by default on ubuntu
[04:19] <bipolar> zax1: then you're using the default. :)
[04:19] <cringousbr> Yes, I did it. But it have 15MB.
[04:19] <zax1> but...
[04:19] <zax1> then the resolution was capped at 640:480
[04:19] <Borelia> !ntfs
[04:19] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[04:19] <zax1> followed a ling from uboto about fixing resolution, to download something from synaptic
[04:19] <zax1> but to be honest i dont know what i did
[04:20] <bipolar> zax1: there is something I don't know about your config... it should be like that by default
[04:20] <zax1> just "was following orders"
[04:20] <bipolar> *shouldn't
[04:20] <zax1> hmmm
[04:20] <zax1> and now this hanging
[04:20] <linuxboyfriend> l
[04:21] <bipolar> zax1: open your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and go to the "Device" section.
[04:22] <cringousbr> bipolar: I unzipped the ODS and edited it on a text editor
[04:23] <cringousbr> bipolar: but I can't find the error, it is in line 2, column 5502072.
[04:24] <bipolar> cringousbr: I've never had one corupted on me. I don't know where to begin.
[04:24] <bipolar> zax1: I need to know what driver you are using for sure.
[04:24] <cringousbr> bipolar: Ok, thanks.
[04:24] <rednaxel> cringousbr, how big was your spreadsheet?
[04:25] <zax1> how can i tell ?
[04:25] <zax1> oh hang on
[04:25] <zax1> could it be nvidia-glx ?
[04:25] <bipolar> zax1: you need to open /etc/X11/xorg and go to the "Device" section.
[04:25] <zax1> is that a driver name?
[04:25] <bipolar> zax1: it will be either "nvidia" or "nv"
[04:25] <cringousbr> My content.xml file has 15mb
[04:26] <bipolar> zax1: thats the driver package, yes.
[04:26] <zax1> ok
[04:26] <bipolar> zax1: for the nvidia binary driver....
[04:27] <bipolar> zax1: here... do this...
[04:27] <bipolar> zax1: run 'grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:27] <zax1> any sudos or any thing ?
[04:27] <bipolar> don't need it for that
[04:28] <zax1> ok just a sec
[04:29] <bipolar> zax1: just tell me if there is an "nv" or an "nvidia" there...
[04:29] <zax1> yes
[04:29] <zax1> the last one is nvidia
[04:29] <zax1> (sorry was on the phone)
[04:29] <bipolar> is there an nv there too or not?
[04:30] <zax1> no, just nvidia,kbd,mouse
[04:30] <bipolar> good
[04:30] <bipolar> that is the nvidia binary driver.
[04:30] <bipolar> lspci | grep -i nvidia << run that now
[04:30] <zax1> so what can i do with it?
[04:31] <zax1> k
[04:31] <zax1> big list
[04:31] <bipolar> err....
[04:32] <bipolar> should only be one line....
[04:32] <bipolar> don't forget the pipe "|"
[04:32] <zax1> about 15
[04:33] <bipolar> you should only get one line from that. you mistyped something.
[04:33] <zax1> memory controller 5
[04:33] <zax1> isa bridge 1
[04:33] <zax1> its all related to nvidia
[04:33] <bipolar> oh... crap
[04:33] <zax1> they all have nvidia in them(evn the usb hub - oddly enough)
[04:33] <bipolar> let me guess... nforce chipset....
[04:34] <bipolar> try this lspci | grep VGA
[04:34] <zax1> 1 liner
[04:34] <bipolar> good. paste that one line here
[04:34] <zax1> cant paste, will type
[04:35] <bipolar> ok
[04:36] <zax1> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[04:36] <bipolar> ok
[04:36] <zax1> just a sec
[04:36] <zax1> brb
[04:38] <bipolar> zax1: ok. I know what driver you need.... when you get back I'll walk you though it.
[04:40] <Trg_kan_[works] > hi
[04:40] <zax1> back
[04:40] <Trg_kan_[works] > can someone helps me?
[04:40] <bipolar> zax1: run this.....(typing)
[04:40] <zax1> k
[04:40] <Trg_kan_[works] > i have kubuntu installed on the virtual pc, but once connected on windows xp and configured up the connection board, i can't to go to internet on kubuntu in the virtual pc
[04:40] <Trg_kan_[works] > why?
[04:41] <Trg_kan_[works] > please help me :(
[04:41] <bipolar> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:41] <bipolar> Trg_kan_[works] : thats not an kubuntu problem. it's a virtual pc one.
[04:42] <jjesse> Trg_kan_[works] :  did you setup your vm to bridge eth0?  what is the ip address that your vm is geting?
[04:42] <bipolar> Trg_kan_[works] : you need to set up a bridged network for your VM guests.
[04:42] <Trg_kan_[works] > ???
[04:42] <Trg_kan_[works] > how can i set up bridge?
[04:42] <bipolar> Trg_kan_[works] : this is the wrong channel for that. it's a VPC issue
[04:42] <Trg_kan_[works] > i use microsoft virtual pc
[04:43] <Trg_kan_[works] > uff..
[04:43] <Trg_kan_[works] > bye
[04:43] <bipolar> Trg_kan_[works] : need to check your docs
[04:43] <bipolar> idiot
[04:43] <zax1> nvidia-glx already newest version
[04:43] <bipolar> zax1: what about the modules? are they installed?
[04:43] <zax1> E: couldnt find package restricted-modules-unam -r
[04:44] <bipolar> zax1: those are '`'
[04:44] <bipolar> it's the key with the ~
[04:44] <zax1> yes i put them , no space right ?
[04:44] <KaoticEvil> bipolar: the vesa driver works :)
[04:44] <bipolar> nope.
[04:44] <bipolar> KaoticEvil: cool
[04:44] <bipolar> linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:44] <zax1> only after the "uname"
[04:44] <bipolar> right
[04:44] <KaoticEvil> wish i could get the glide driver to work tho :(
[04:45] <zax1> yeah that what i typed
[04:45] <zax1> it said:
[04:45] <zax1> nvidia-glx already newest version
[04:45] <zax1> E: couldnt find package restricted-modules-unam -r
[04:45] <bipolar> zax1: you mistyped something... look over the line again
[04:45] <zax1> ok
[04:47] <zax1> no, same thing. only in the error message it omits the " ' "
[04:48] <zax1> reading and building is done
[04:48] <zax1> nvidia-glx already newest version
[04:48] <bipolar> run uname -r
[04:49] <bipolar> you get something like 2.6.12-10-686
[04:49] <zax1> 2.6.12.10.386
[04:49] <bipolar> the backticks mean that it puts the output of that command into the line.
[04:49] <bipolar> so when you type apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:50] <bipolar> it sees linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-686
[04:50] <zax1> i hae 386 at the end not 686
[04:50] <bipolar> thats fine.
[04:50] <bipolar> but if it's complaing about not finding linux-restricted-modules-uname... then you're missing the backticks....`
[04:51] <zax1> i just typed the 2.6.12-10-386
[04:51] <zax1> anditran to the end
[04:51] <bipolar> ok. so it installed it?
[04:52] <zax1> yeah
[04:52] <zax1> ( ithink so)
[04:52] <bipolar> ok. run "modprobe nvidia"
[04:52] <bipolar> without the quotes
[04:52] <zax1> k
[04:52] <bipolar> any output?
[04:52] <zax1> no
[04:52] <bipolar> good
[04:52] <bipolar> now just run X
[04:53] <bipolar> type in "X" and hit enter.
[04:53] <bipolar> capitol X :)
[04:53] <_adam> hey room...can I ask you guys where to get and how to install both w32codecs and libdvdcss in kubuntu...go easy Im new
[04:53] <zax1> i am still in the recovery window
[04:53] <zax1> i got fatal error
[04:53] <bipolar> zax1: what was the error?
[04:53] <bipolar> line that starts with (EE)
[04:53] <zax1> no screens found
[04:53] <bipolar> bah
[04:53] <zax1> yeah
[04:54] <bipolar> now... run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' again
[04:54] <zax1> ee failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! please ensure that htere is supporte NNVIDIA GPU...
[04:54] <bipolar> bah!
[04:54] <bipolar> hold on a min....
[04:54] <ccc_> _adam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:54] <_adam> thanks ccc
[04:54] <bipolar> zax1: run "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[04:55] <zax1> ccc_ : its all your fault
[04:55] <zax1> k
[04:55] <bipolar> lol
[04:55] <zax1> nvidia_agp    7963 1
[04:55] <zax1> nvidia   3923004 0
[04:55] <ccc_> zax1: :O ... what is?
[04:56] <bipolar> zax1: ok.... it is loaded... wtf....
[04:56] <bipolar> zax1: reboot the box. see if it boots up on it's own now
[04:56] <zax1> agpgart   32328 2 nvidia_agp,nvidia
[04:56] <zax1> ccc_, the fact that i am beeing out bid on the house i am trying to buy
[04:56] <zax1> ok
[04:56] <bipolar> hahaha
[04:56] <zax1> do i need to save anything ?
[04:56] <bipolar> nope.
[04:57] <zax1> ccc_, and the fact that my display is all out of wack!
[04:59] <ccc_> zax1: hehe, oh that. sorry, but all i did was to ask the bot to tell you about "ndivia". that's standard procedure concerning 3d driver install.
[04:59] <ccc_> nvidia*
[04:59] <bipolar> zax1: let me know if it starts up
[04:59] <zax1> i will do
[05:00] <zax1> its back to checking battery state
[05:00] <bipolar> hangs?
[05:00] <zax1> does that silly machine not know i have a desktop not a lap top
[05:00] <bipolar> I bet it has to do with the nforce chipset...
[05:02] <bipolar> hmmmm
[05:02] <bipolar> maybe turning of acpi will help...
[05:03] <bipolar> ok
[05:03] <bipolar> zax1: this is a little bit more complicated....
[05:03] <bipolar> zax1: boot into recovery mode again.
[05:04] <zax1> ok
[05:05] <zax1> i have 2 modes : 2.6.12-10-386
[05:05] <zax1> and
[05:05] <zax1> i have 2 modes : 2.6.12-9-386
[05:05] <zax1> loging in to 10 ?
[05:06] <bipolar> 10 recovery
[05:07] <zax1> coming up - really takes a long time to pass [.....]  NET: registering protocol family 17
[05:07] <bipolar> zax1: hmm... it's not hung though?
[05:08] <zax1> no
[05:08] <zax1> i am ready
[05:08] <zax1> type away
[05:08] <bipolar> nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:09] <bipolar> er... sudo that
[05:09] <zax1> k
[05:10] <bipolar> are you in?
[05:10] <zax1> yup
[05:10] <bipolar> ok. scroll down until the commented lines end...
[05:10] <bipolar> all the #'s are commented lines
[05:11] <bipolar> find the first line that says "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10.... yada yada....."
[05:11] <zax1> there is nothing there
[05:12] <zax1> i have a blank black screen
[05:12] <bipolar> zax1: :\
[05:12] <zax1> and at the bottom (above a few commands) i have newfile
[05:12] <bipolar> zax1: ctrl+x to exit
[05:12] <zax1> ok
[05:12] <bipolar> zax1: you mistyped the file name I think
[05:12] <bipolar> zax1: "nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" << thats .LST
[05:13] <zax1> sorry - you are most patiant with me and iam mocking about
[05:13] <zax1> i am in there now
[05:13] <bipolar> thats ok. we were all new once
[05:14] <zax1> :)
[05:14] <bipolar> I was new 12 years ago :)
[05:14] <zax1> geez
[05:14] <bipolar> started on Slackware on a brand new 386 sx 25mhz
[05:15] <zax1> no gui i imagine ?
[05:15] <bipolar> no, I got X running on it, eventualy.
[05:16] <bipolar> I didn't have an internet connection either :P
[05:16] <zax1> no wonder u have bipolar
[05:16] <bipolar> spent days just staring at it trying to figure out how it worked, reading a linux book.
[05:16] <bipolar> heh... anyway... I degress....
[05:17] <zax1> i have a few rows of that line you gave me
[05:17] <bipolar> I was 13/14 years old... it was worth it >:)
[05:17] <zax1> it looks like the grub bootmanager
[05:17] <bipolar> yep
[05:17] <zax1> i recogise the otions
[05:17] <trappist> I should give my kid a box like that.  so spoiled.
[05:17] <zax1> dont be mean,
[05:17] <bipolar> trappist: heh... yeah. we're all spoiled now :)
[05:17] <zax1> but i hve an apple IIc here if you want
[05:17] <bipolar> lol
[05:18] <zax1> you'll despoil him, and with style
[05:18] <bipolar> zax1: go to the first line that starts with kernal and ends with "splash"
[05:18] <zax1> ok
[05:18] <trappist> when she grows up she's gonna be telling her kids "when I was your age, we measured hard drives in GIGABYTES" to the child's shock and amazement
[05:18] <bipolar> put acpi=off at the end of it.
[05:18] <zax1> ...hda1 roquiet splash
[05:19] <bipolar> so it will read 'hda1 ro quiet splash acpi=off'
[05:19] <zax1> done
[05:19] <bipolar> then ctrl+o to save (say yes to overwrite)
[05:19] <bipolar> then ctrl+x to exit
[05:20] <bipolar> now when you reboot, it should disable the acpi stuff.
[05:20] <zax1> reboot then ?
[05:20] <bipolar> thats the power management stuff
[05:20] <bipolar> yep.
[05:20] <bipolar> and just let it boot.
[05:20] <bipolar> damned buggy nvidia crap....
[05:21] <zax1> let it boot....listen to you... one might think i attempted to interfere :(
[05:21] <bipolar> they should have stuck to making video cards
[05:21] <bipolar> lol
[05:21] <zax1> that is a video card
[05:21] <bipolar> I was being positive.... "let it boot" instead of "see if it boots"
[05:21] <zax1> i know, jst venting
[05:21] <bipolar> right. but nvidia also makes the chipset on your motherboard.
[05:22] <bipolar> thats why that lspci | grep nvidia showed so many things.
[05:22] <zax1> true
[05:22] <zax1> what is the grep command ?
[05:22] <bipolar> grep searches for a string.
[05:22] <bipolar> so lspci shows everything... pipe it to grep looking for nvidia... just shows lines that have nvidia in them
[05:22] <zax1> lspci searchs for all the pcis and grep takes out only the nvidia ?
[05:23] <bipolar> yep :)
[05:23] <zax1> ;)
[05:23] <zax1> smart this linux command line
[05:23] <bipolar> the command line in linux is exreamly powerful
[05:23] <zax1> here you'll be happy to know
[05:24] <bipolar> tell me you got a login.... (crosses fingers)
[05:24] <zax1> that it stops at the exact same annoying place right after *checking battery state....
[05:24] <bipolar> pos
[05:24] <zax1> now , i might have been misleading here
[05:24] <zax1> see when i say hangs
[05:24] <bipolar> does it eventualy make it though?
[05:25] <zax1> it kinda hangs there, and not go any further, but when i hit ctrl+alt+del it reboots ok, so it still takes in keyboard commands
[05:25] <zax1> no, no
[05:25] <zax1> it doesnt go through
[05:25] <bipolar> hmmm... let it boot normaly... then hit Ctrl+C there when it hangs.
[05:25] <zax1> so that would be now
[05:25] <zax1> ?
[05:26] <zax1> its been there 2 min
[05:27] <zax1> ctrl +C  - no effect
[05:27] <noteventime> Could someone tell me how to use aiglx?
[05:27] <JakubS> like any other x server
[05:27] <bipolar> zax1: hmmm.....
[05:28] <noteventime> JakubS: Is there a way to make an option in KDM?
[05:28] <zax1> bipolar
[05:28] <bipolar> zax1: ok. reboot. get to the grub menu again. this time we'll check the boot line....
[05:28] <zax1> ok
[05:29] <bipolar> grub menu = the one where you select "recovery" not the text file we were editing...
[05:29] <DevGet> Why will a dist-upgrade remove openoffice and kubuntu-desktop?
[05:29] <bipolar> DevGet: Dapper?
[05:30] <DevGet> yes
[05:30] <JakubS> noteventime: i think /etc/X11/X symlinks points to x server that should be used
[05:30] <bipolar> DevGet: broken packages. just do a regular upgrade
[05:30] <noteventime> JakubS: Ok, thanks a lot
[05:30] <zax1> if this was windows  i would have removed the driver and reinstall
[05:30] <trappist> DevGet: I just submitted a bug on that
[05:30] <DevGet> ok
[05:30] <zax1> would something similar work for this case
[05:30] <bipolar> zax1: yeah... there is no graphical fallback in linux. I wish there was.
[05:31] <bipolar> zax1: besides, I don't think the two problems are the same.
[05:31] <zax1> righ
[05:31] <zax1> so u think the booting is seperate to the resolution and the vvidia card ?
[05:31] <zax1> i am at the command prompt
[05:32] <bipolar> zax1: err... the grub menu?
[05:32] <JakubS> bipolar: hmm, maybe script that gets exit code from xorg and if it is error then relaunches xorg with another config file using vesa driver?
[05:32] <zax1> no root@ubuntu:~#
[05:32] <JakubS> something like Xorg || Xorg -config /etc/X11/fallback.conf
[05:33] <bipolar> JakubS: Thats what I was thinking....
[05:33] <zax1> oh that s the key that was supodsed to envelope uname.....` as oppsed to '
[05:33] <bipolar> zax1: ok... while we're here....
[05:33] <bipolar> zax1: yep :)
[05:33] <zax1> forgot about that one....
[05:34] <zax1> ok, so where do i go ?
[05:35] <bipolar> cd /etc/rc2.d
[05:35] <bipolar> rm *acpi-support
[05:35] <JakubS> bipolar: maybe there is already a fallback
[05:36] <zax1> no responce to that last line
[05:36] <bipolar> thats fine
[05:36] <bipolar> try 'ls *acpi*'
[05:36] <JakubS> changed "i810" to "ati" in xorg.conf and it just used vesa after ati driver failed
[05:37] <zax1> light blue   -   S10acpid
[05:37] <bipolar> cool
[05:37] <bipolar> reboot and try again :)
[05:37] <bipolar> we just disabled the script that was checking the battery :)
[05:37] <zax1> what did you do ?
[05:38] <zax1> oh
[05:38] <zax1> dd we
[05:38] <bipolar> light blue is a link. the script is in /etc/init.d... the link to it in /etc/rc2.d gets run when booting in runlevel 2, which is the default.
[05:39] <bipolar> by removing the link, we basicly told it "don't run this script in runlevel 2"
[05:39] <bipolar> brb
[05:42] <bipolar> back
[05:43] <JakubS> why the hell kubuntu uses runlevel 2 for gui anyway? it is 5 normally
[05:43] <bipolar> JakubS: only in redhat versions.
[05:43] <bipolar> JakubS: debian has always used 2
[05:43] <trappist> JakubS: the runlevels in *ubuntu and debian are not what you're used to
[05:43] <trappist> or what I'm used to
[05:43] <trappist> I liked the redhat/mandrake/suse way better
[05:43] <trappist> but I'm still glad I switched :)
[05:43] <JakubS> well, i would be glad if ubuntu dropped sysvinit altogether - it is damn slow
[05:44] <trappist> JakubS: hell yeah, join the "alternative init system" thread I started on the ml
[05:44] <trappist> sounder and ubuntu-devel
[05:44] <bipolar> zax1: hows it going?
[05:45] <trappist> JakubS: I'm recommending runit-run
[05:45] <JakubS> i used initng for some time - it is much faster but it was quite a chore keeping it in working state between upgrades
[05:45] <zax1> no good
[05:45] <bipolar> zax1: what is it doing?
[05:45] <JakubS> but i can't get suspend to work so startup time is quite important for me
[05:45] <zax1> its hanging now at *starting periodic command scheduler
[05:45] <bipolar> wtf
[05:46] <bipolar> this makes no sence
[05:46] <zax1> what your geo location?
[05:46] <trappist> JakubS: sure could use your support on the ml.  I can't claim to care, since I reboot 2 or 3 times a year
[05:46] <bipolar> east PA, USA
[05:46] <zax1> oh...
[05:46] <JakubS> trappist: lucky one
[05:46] <zax1> i would have invited you for cofgee to sort it out, but alas...
[05:46] <zax1> u r too far
[05:47] <bipolar> where are you?
[05:47] <zax1> NI
[05:47] <zax1> northern ireland
[05:47] <bipolar> lol
[05:47] <bipolar> yeah... thats a bit far to drive :P
[05:47] <bipolar> any Linux User Groups local to you?
[05:49] <zax1> i dont know
[05:49] <zax1> i am quite new to this
[05:49] <zax1> so should i jusr reinstall it ?
[05:49] <zax1> its a brand new installation
[05:49] <zax1> it was
[05:50] <bipolar> yeah.
[05:50] <bipolar> try downloading the latest dapper and see if that works better
[05:50] <bipolar> it's the development version and may support your hardware better.
[05:50] <bipolar> sorry I couldn't help more.
[05:50] <zax1> this is socket A its anciant
[05:51] <zax1> should easily be supported
[05:51] <bipolar> gmmmm
[05:51] <zax1> well u gave it your best shot
[05:51] <bipolar> hmmm... even
[05:51] <zax1> and that what matters
[05:51] <zax1> it was very kind of you
[05:51] <bipolar> np
[05:51] <bipolar> http://www.lug.org.uk/lugs/nireland.php
[05:51] <zax1> many thanks
[05:51] <bipolar> there are a couple of LUGS
[05:54] <zax1> no, they are crap
[05:54] <zax1> one is a space holder
[05:54] <zax1> another is still waiting for a meeting 5 years after its conception
[05:55] <bipolar> zax1: the derry mailing list is active
[05:55] <bipolar> zax1: http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/derry/
[05:55] <bipolar> zax1: scratch that...
[05:55] <bipolar> zax1: active this month... last month with any posts was september 0.o
[05:55] <zax1> scratched
[05:56] <zax1> this country is backwards in more ways then one
[05:57] <bipolar> zax1: could be worse...
[05:57] <zax1> yeah  ,true
[05:57] <zax1> this week have been busy, and nothing goes my way
[05:59] <bipolar> zax1: how about http://www.belfastlinux.org/wiki/Main_Page
[06:00] <zax1> u r a resourceful man
[06:01] <bipolar> remember... it's not what you know... its if you know how to find out what you need to know :)
[06:05] <mijndert> bipolar, that's what i learn at school these days :+
[06:05] <mijndert> some teachers think it's really stupid heh
[06:05] <bipolar> I'm glad I was homeschooled :)
[06:06] <zax1> were you
[06:06] <zax1> good man
[06:06] <bipolar> yeah... from 8th though graduation
[06:07] <zax1> i was borugh t up in boarding schol
[06:07] <zax1> a kibbuts if that mewans anything ot you
[06:07] <bipolar> I'm not familure with the term.
[06:07] <zax1> good thing you are an experiances google user ;)
[06:08] <bipolar> zax1: jewish?
[06:08] <zax1> yup
[06:08] <bipolar> heh... got ti
[06:09] <bipolar> An Israeli collective farm. Once important in the development of Israel, kibbutzim now represent less than two percent of the population.
[06:09] <bipolar> so it was a communal settlement of sorts?
[06:09] <zax1> misses the point, its the purest form of comunism, what the USSR should have been, if you like
[06:10] <bipolar> yeah. I get it. cool.
[06:10] <zax1> but then again
[06:10] <zax1> i missed the point as well
[06:10] <zax1> its not for me
[06:10] <bipolar> heh...
[06:10] <zax1> its not for most of my generation
[06:10] <angasule> why, when I click on a link, the default action is to open it? I'm not given the option to download it
[06:10] <bipolar> Under capitolisom, man dominates man... in socalisim... it's the other way around
[06:11] <bipolar> :)
[06:11] <trpr42> bipolar: isn't that a fun circle ;)
[06:11] <bipolar> angasule: right click
[06:11] <mijndert> Microsoft dominates us \o/
[06:11] <angasule> bipolar: doesn't work
[06:11] <bipolar> angasule: you don't get a "save link as" option?
[06:12] <bipolar> angasule: give us the URL
[06:12] <angasule> bipolar: I mean from any program, not just konqueror
[06:12] <bipolar> angasule: oh... well, that would be in the programs options then
[06:12] <angasule> bipolar: also, if I place a link in the konqueror address bar, it opens it, it doesn't give the option to download
[06:13] <bipolar> angasule: I always use wget for things like that.
[06:13] <angasule> bipolar: congratulations, that doesn't mean it's working fine
[06:14] <bipolar> angasule: I'm afraid you'll have to take it up with the developers of the software. if's its a kde app, join #kde.
[06:14] <bipolar> heh
[06:14] <bipolar> you're welcome... asshat
[06:15] <zax1> right off i go
[06:15] <zax1> bipolar - again many thanks
[06:15] <bipolar> good luck. maybe someone in that lug could help you?
[06:17] <Flying_Eagle> hi
[06:17] <bipolar> hiya
[06:17] <Flying_Eagle> my one harddisc is dying, so i installed another kubuntu-"instance" (which im using now) on the other one
[06:19] <Flying_Eagle> to migrate all the apps from kubuntu-old to kubuntu-new i wanna do sth like: cp -a /media/hdxy/var/cache/apt/archives/* /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:19] <Flying_Eagle> followed by a: cd var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:19] <Flying_Eagle> followed by: dpkg -i *
[06:19] <Flying_Eagle> should that work?
[06:19] <bipolar> eeek... no
[06:20] <Flying_Eagle> bipolar: so whats the correct procedure?
[06:20] <bipolar> is the old drive still good, just getting flaky?
[06:20] <Flying_Eagle> yes
[06:20] <Flying_Eagle> some errors in the kernel-region
[06:20] <bipolar> Flying_Eagle: maybe you could copy the file system then.
[06:20] <bipolar> let me think about how to do that....
[06:21] <Flying_Eagle> cp -a /media/hdxy/* /media/hdyz on a live-cd?
[06:22] <bipolar> I would use tar. you need to preserve everything, including links
[06:23] <Flying_Eagle> ok. actually thats not what i want to do, cause im pretty sure, that this will lead to errors
[06:24] <bipolar> Flying_Eagle: ok
[06:24] <Flying_Eagle> my idea is, that some often used regions of the hd, like the ones where the modules or often used system-utilities are placed have gone byebye
[06:24] <bipolar> then... use dpkg to get a list of the installed packages.
[06:25] <bipolar> then pipe that list to apt
[06:25] <Flying_Eagle> e.g. gunzip isnt working anymore
[06:25] <Flying_Eagle> dpkg -l|apt-get install ?
[06:26] <bipolar> er... you'll need to get a cleaner list then dpkg -l gives you... but thats the idea
[06:26] <Flying_Eagle> ok... *studying manpage*
[06:29] <Flying_Eagle> thats the cleanest output i could find, bipolar: dpkg --get-selections
[06:30] <noteventime> 'ello again, thanks for the help with aiglx :) works great
[06:30] <nistel> alguien me ayuda?
[06:30] <nistel> acabo de instalarme kubuntu
[06:30] <Flying_Eagle> and why cant i just dpkt -i all the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[06:30] <Flying_Eagle> nistel: i think, this is the english-channel
[06:30] <noteventime> !es
[06:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:31] <noteventime> !pr
[06:31] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime
[06:31] <nistel> thanks
[06:31] <noteventime> NP :)
[06:32] <rysiek|pl> shit, anybody knows how to start a WAR in FreeCiv? :] 
[06:32] <noteventime> Bah, I cant hey these annoying bootsplashes to work
[06:32] <noteventime> !usplash
[06:32] <ubotu> I heard usplash is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:32] <bipolar> Flying_Eagle: I'm not good with sed, but I think it would be possible to clean it up
[06:33] <Flying_Eagle> ok -_-
[06:34] <Flying_Eagle> ill write a python-script :D
[06:34] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: trying to get mine to work, too
[06:34] <rysiek|pl> no success as yet, though - I'm using vga=791 (that's 1024x768x16bpp)
[06:34] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Hehe, good tp know I'm not alone :P
[06:35] <bipolar> Flying_Eagle: got it.
[06:35] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Have you managed to convert to 16bit png?
[06:35] <bipolar> Flying_Eagle: /msg dpkg selections :)
[06:35] <rysiek|pl> as far as I know, it has to be an indexed, 16-colour png
[06:36] <rysiek|pl> when I try to run the programs from USplashCustomizationHowTo on anything else than 16colour png - gives me an error
[06:37] <noteventime> ok
[06:38] <bipolar> Flying_Eagle: get that?
[06:38] <noteventime> Do you know if/how i can change the grubbackground?
[06:38] <rysiek|pl> aye, that's easy :)
[06:38] <bipolar> noteventime: yeah. in the grub config there is a line for it
[06:39] <noteventime> I know, but what format is it?
[06:39] <noteventime> c?
[06:39] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: gimme a sec, I'll get you all info I have ;)
[06:39] <bipolar> noteventime: png I think
[06:39] <rysiek|pl> nope, it's XPM.GZ
[06:39] <noteventime> hehe, thanks
[06:39] <bipolar> ha
[06:39] <noteventime> How do i create an gz XPM?
[06:39] <Flying_Eagle> bipolar: "dpkg selections" doesnt work...
[06:39] <bipolar> noteventime: the Gimp
[06:40] <rysiek|pl> with GIMP, of course :] 
[06:40] <bipolar> Flying_Eagle: did you see what the bot said?
[06:40] <Flying_Eagle> no
 it has been said that ffs copy is run "dpkg --get-selections > foo.txt" on the source, copy foo.txt to the destination and run "dpkg --set-selections < foo.txt ; apt-get -u dselect-upgrade" on the destination.
[06:40] <noteventime> hhe, yes i judt didnt know GIMP had that format :P
[06:41] <bipolar> noteventime: gimp will create the .xpm, then use gzip to compress I'd guess.
[06:41] <bipolar> lol
[06:41] <noteventime> ok
[06:41] <bipolar> make sure you figure out what dementions it's looking for
[06:42] <rysiek|pl> bipolar, noteventime: actually, there is an option of gzipping the images by GIMP itself :)
[06:42] <bipolar> there ya go. :P
[06:42] <rysiek|pl> just append a .xpm.gz extension to the filename
[06:42] <rysiek|pl> and it should do it by itself
[06:42] <rysiek|pl> I'm looking for the dimensions for you
[06:43] <noteventime> ok, thanks
[06:43] <rysiek|pl> 90-60-90... hmmm, nope, that's not it, I suppose. ;)
[06:43] <Flying_Eagle> im gonna shudown kde, while upgrading to 3.5.1... brb
[06:43] <Kolizz> hi all! i'm having serious problems installing kubuntu. at some points of the installation it just fails "with error code 1". sometimes it works when i retry it and sometimes it fucks up totally. tried ubuntu breezy, kubuntu breezy. kubuntu dapper drake installed but i dont want to use it. tried seatools too, it just freezes once i start a test. checking the hdd in another computer using seatools worked and returned no errors. anyone got a clue w
[06:43] <henrike> gibs den kram auch in deitsch ???
[06:43] <henrike> h ???
[06:44] <Dasnipa`> !de
[06:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:44] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: a great howto on GRUB splashimages: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/#1.0
[06:45] <rysiek|pl> (goes directly to the dimensions ;) )
[06:45] <rysiek|pl> have fun. remember to make a backup! :)
[06:45] <noteventime> thanks
[06:45] <rysiek|pl> nop. do it and get back here, so that we can hack the usplash thingy :)
[06:49] <Flying_Eagle> good ol' irssi
[06:52] <puckman> Anyone installed dapper yet?
[06:52] <Flying_Eagle> no. it freezes my keyboard
[06:53] <zax1> bipolar, r u still about?
[06:53] <rysiek|pl> I think you've asked that question before, haven't you, puckman? :)
[06:53] <puckman> hehehe
[06:53] <puckman> Mighthave
[06:53] <rysiek|pl> cought red-handed :)
[06:53] <rysiek|pl> and still no help with the usplash. dammit.
[06:54] <noteventime> hmm :/
[06:55] <noteventime> That wasnt very nice X)
[06:55] <noteventime> well, brb
[06:56] <puckman> fuck it, downloading it now
[06:56] <puckman> aaah there we go, in 20 min I will have my cd image
[06:58] <Flying_Eagle> just out of interest: what can you do with that bot and to which www-sources is it connected?
[06:59] <bipolar> zax1: yep
[07:03] <Flying_Eagle> yeeha! everything went fine
[07:03] <bipolar> Flying_Eagle: awesome
[07:04] <bipolar> can someone please type in my nick so I can make sure my notifications in konverstation are working right?
[07:05] <Flying_Eagle> bipolar:
[07:05] <puckman> bipolar:
[07:05] <puckman> bipolar:
[07:05] <bipolar> not workin'
[07:06] <puckman> bipolar:
[07:06] <bipolar> oh, there they are.
[07:06] <puckman> mine works
[07:06] <Flying_Eagle> what about bipolar surrounded by spaces?
[07:06] <bipolar> they are showing up on my laptop screen. which I use as #2.
[07:07] <bipolar> ok. please try again :)
[07:07] <Flying_Eagle> linux is just cool. imagine what i had done, if i had to rescue a windows-system
[07:08] <Flying_Eagle> this procedure took me 10 minutes in research and some more while executing it.
[07:08] <noteventime> ok I'm back :)
[07:09] <_adam> can someone explain to me why my adsl connection is working but I cannot connect to any of the repositories in Adept?
[07:09] <noteventime> The GRUB image didn't work very well :(
[07:11] <noteventime> I got a part of my image in a few red lines below the menu :(
[07:15] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: hmmm... at least You got the image working in GRUB, anyway ;)
[07:15] <bipolar_> I hear bipolar is a moron :P
[07:15] <bipolar> shutup n00b!
[07:15] <rysiek|pl> I would try to read this tutorial once more, and *slowly* ;)
[07:16] <rysiek|pl> it has to be something with the image itself
[07:17] <noteventime> nope, grub didnt work either :P
[07:17] <noteventime> same prob
[07:17] <rysiek|pl> are you *sure* it has the proper dimensions and palette? (I myself fell for that one when making the GRUBsplash)
[07:17] <rysiek|pl> ?
[07:17] <rysiek|pl> what prob?
[07:17] <noteventime> I see a part of the image in red stripes below the menu, 14 colors 640x480
[07:18] <bipolar_> bipolar: are your notifications working yet?
[07:18] <bipolar> kindof
[07:18] <bipolar_> bipolar: wtf is wrong with them?
[07:19] <zax1> sorry bipolar, offspring is home and she wont let me get on...the raskle,
[07:19] <zax1> i have reinstalled
[07:19] <zax1> and resolution at a max of 640x480
[07:19] <bipolar> bipolar_: nothing now... I don't need you any more! get lost!
[07:19] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: I would check if it's really 640x480, not 640x400 - it may be confusing
[07:19] <bipolar> heh
[07:19] <rysiek|pl> and I would double-check the palette
[07:19] <bipolar> zax1: wow... ok. back to the xorg log
[07:20] <zax1> i just installed synaptic and download the K7 version of the nvidia drivers(since its a athlon)
[07:20] <noteventime> it's 640x480
[07:20] <bipolar> zax1: the nvidia kernel module needs to match your running kernel.
[07:20] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: if it still doesn't work - I'll post you a link to the image I use (and is working just fine) and give you what I have in my menu.lst
[07:20] <tamer> hi people! has anybody of you an idea how to enable the keyboard switcher on kde?!
[07:20] <tamer> doesn't work for me
[07:21] <tamer> Do I have to reconfigure the xorg server?
[07:21] <bipolar> zax1: so if you are running a 386 kernel, you need to use the 386 module.
[07:21] <bipolar> zax1: or switch to the k7 kernel and module.
[07:21] <tamer> hallo?!
[07:21] <tamer> Nobody can help me?! :(
[07:22] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Thanks ^^,  It's 640x480
[07:22] <noteventime> tamer: Take it easy, have you been in region settings in kcontrol
[07:22] <pulver> how do u change the background image for kdm?
[07:22] <noteventime> login manager
[07:22] <noteventime> in kcontrol
[07:22] <tamer> regions are german and arabic
[07:22] <noteventime> system -> login manager
[07:22] <tamer> I need the keaboard to be displayed in arabic
[07:23] <noteventime> tamer: Region -> keyboard layouts
[07:23] <tamer> I did, but he disable it automatically
[07:23] <tamer> If I click the checkbox "Enable keyboard layouts" everything is empty and nothing is choosable
[07:23] <noteventime> It works for me :(
[07:24] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: ok, gimme a sec, I'll put the image on my server
[07:25] <pulver> noteventime: thanks
[07:25] <noteventime> puver: NP :)
[07:26] <tamer> How do I reconfigure the xorg server?!
[07:26] <tamer> Has anybody of you an idea?
[07:26] <noteventime> Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:27] <noteventime> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:27] <noteventime> Dunno if that last onw works though
[07:28] <Nomad411> I need to set up a PC for the 10 year-old son of my buddy.  Woul dedubuntu be a good choice for Internet child-safety?  Does anyone here know if there are built-in tools similar to net-nanny, etc?
[07:28] <zax1> bipolar, so i dont take the K& driver then, just the 386 ?
[07:28] <bipolar> zax1: right. or you can install the k7 kernel.
[07:28] <zax1> and do you reckon for the NV18is the right driver
[07:29] <tamer> thank you guys
[07:29] <noteventime> Nomad411: There is software availible like net-nanny, give me a minute and let me try to find one :)
[07:29] <zax1> k, well the 386 is what i installed earlier , when it all when capput
[07:29] <noteventime> tamer: Np
[07:29] <bipolar> zax1: acording to the package. everything higher then a gforce 2 is supported by that driver.
[07:29] <bipolar> zax1: there is a
[07:29] <zax1> thats what i thought
[07:29] <bipolar> zax1: there is a "legacy" driver for the older ones.
[07:30] <zax1> its a relatively new one
[07:31] <bipolar> should be fine.
[07:31] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: http://rysiek.ath.cx/stuff/grub_splash.tar.bz2 there you are
[07:31] <bipolar> you havn't installed the new driver yet, have you?
[07:31] <bipolar> maybe we should try bumping the resolution up before installing it.
[07:31] <bipolar> just to see....
[07:32] <bipolar> zax1: open up a terminal in X and run 'xrandr' and see what it tells you
[07:33] <bipolar> zax1: maybe there are more modes you can switch too, although I doubt it... :\
[07:33] <noteventime> rysiekpl: Thanks
[07:33] <noteventime> Nomad411: Take a look at this: http://dansguardian.org/?page=whatisdg
[07:33] <Apple7> hello, i'm from Argentina
[07:34] <rysiek|pl> no problem
[07:34] <noteventime> 'ello
[07:34] <Apple7> sorry by inglish
[07:34] <zax1> bipolar
[07:34] <bipolar> .
[07:34] <zax1> where do i type that in a terminal window?
[07:35] <bipolar> open up konsole.
[07:35] <bipolar> click on the K menu, then system, then konsole
[07:35] <Apple7> bipolar> are you Oscar?
[07:35] <zax1> i thought so, but it say cant open display, when i type xrandr
[07:35] <bipolar> Apple7: nope.
[07:35] <bipolar> zax1: wow...thats weird
[07:35] <Apple7> Pk, sorry
[07:35] <Apple7> ok*
[07:36] <bipolar> zax1: you're not running it with sudo, are you?
[07:36] <zax1> sorry i typed it in a terminal i opened with ctrl alt F1
[07:36] <zax1> its through your way
[07:36] <zax1> and i get just those 2
[07:36] <zax1> 640x480 and 320x240
[07:37] <bipolar> ok.
[07:37] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Ok, time to reboot
[07:37] <bipolar> have you ever used ssh, zax1?
[07:37] <Apple7> i'm problem wicht Kubuntu
[07:37] <zax1> no
[07:37] <zax1> u want  to connect to my comp ?
[07:37] <bipolar> zax1: it would be easier.
[07:38] <zax1> i would like that, think we had enough foreplay.........
[07:38] <bipolar> zax1: all I need to access to port 22 on the kubuntu box
[07:38] <bipolar> lol
[07:38] <bipolar> zax1: do you know how to forward ports?
[07:38] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: good luck :)
[07:39] <zax1> not on a linux box. can we do it in a private room, dont want the entire kubuntu room , to think i am easy, and try to get in as well
[07:39] <bipolar> lol
[07:39] <Apple7> ok, thanks by help me
[07:39] <Apple7> goodBye!
[07:40] <zax1> the computer i a m on at the moment is a windows xp( can u see the IP ?)
[07:40] <bipolar> zax1: I opened a query window to you. check your tabs
[07:40] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: and?..
[07:40] <noteventime> :D, your image worked like a dream
[07:40] <zax1> i saw it, but i cant private message
[07:40] <rysiek|pl> yuppie KIA, man :)
[07:40] <bipolar> oh.... you'd need to register... bah
[07:41] <zax1> here, will u join kubuntu-il ?
[07:41] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: If i can't get my splash to work I'll keep yours :D
[07:41] <rysiek|pl> bipolar, zax: create your own channel
[07:41] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Very nice
[07:41] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: no problem, you can try to edit mine - that should help you :)
[07:42] <noteventime> Just what I'm oing right now :)
[07:42] <rysiek|pl> thx, it's made from a wallpaper I've found on kde-look.org
[07:42] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: open the image in GIMP and set vthe image mode to RGB first
[07:42] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: The thing I's I'm trying to get a consitant feel througout my boot :)
[07:43] <rysiek|pl> or you'll be only able to work with the colours from the palette of my image ;)
[07:43] <rysiek|pl> yep - me too :)
[07:43] <jjesse_meeting> two days ago i accessed a windows file share through konq and now every 5 minutes or so i'm being asked for username/password for the file share, can somoene help me out?
[07:43] <rysiek|pl> I have a wallpaper like that, a KDM splash and KDM theme too
[07:43] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: now I'm trying to get USplash like that ;)
[07:43] <noteventime> Me too :D
[07:44] <rysiek|pl> that makes the two of us, then :)
[07:44] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Well, then we are in the same situation now :)
[07:44] <noteventime> yep
[07:45] <rysiek|pl> ok then, I'll post do some testing during the weekend and post a new thread on ubuntuforums for the usplash thingy
[07:46] <noteventime> Ok, new reboot :P
[07:46] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: hmmm... I've got an idea: can you send me (or publish it in the net somewhere) the image that *didn't* work for your GRUB?
[07:46] <rysiek|pl> ok, gluck ;)
[07:46] <jjesse> any thoughts for my issue?
[07:47] <rysiek|pl> jjesse: no idea :/
[07:47] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: As soon as i'vev rebooted
[07:47] <rysiek|pl> ok
[07:47] <rysiek|pl> jjesse: do you have this share in media:/ folder?
[07:48] <jjesse> rysiek|pl: no i don't
[07:48] <rysiek|pl> o_O
[07:48] <rysiek|pl> strange
[07:49] <rysiek|pl> so, let me get this straight: you are being prompted for a username and password for a Windows share every few mins?
[07:50] <jjesse> rysiek|pl: correct
[07:50] <noteventime> :/
[07:50] <noteventime> Mine still doen't work :P
[07:50] <noteventime> doesn't*
[07:50] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: ok, send me your file to mikiwoz (at) yahoo (dot) co (dot) uk
[07:52] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Sent, I know it says KDE 3.3 :P
[07:52] <rysiek|pl> jjesse: no idea, really, sorry :/
[07:52] <rysiek|pl> ok
[07:52] <noteventime> What is the problem?
[07:52] <jjesse> rysiek|pl: thanks anyways
[07:52] <rysiek|pl> jjesse: try with noteventime ;)
[07:53] <wimpies> does dapper have a kubunt install CD yet ? the one on the homepage claims that is not an installable version
[07:53] <jjesse> for me it is every couple of minutes i'm prompted for username/password to access a windows share i accessed two days aga
[07:53] <noteventime> I'll do my best :)
[07:53] <noteventime> OK..
[07:53] <jjesse> the live cd is currently not installable
[07:53] <noteventime> jjesse
[07:54] <noteventime> jjesse: You mean it doesn't accept your password/username?
[07:54] <jjesse> noteventime: yes?
[07:54] <jjesse> it accepts, but i'm not trying to access the share, it just keeps prompting me
[07:54] <noteventime> ahhh, At KDE startup?
[07:54] <wimpies> jjesse : the website has different links for live and installable CD.  Are both the same ?
[07:55] <jjesse> wimpies: they are currently different
[07:55] <jjesse> noteventime: nope as i'm working on kubuntu
[07:55] <noteventime> wimpies: Are you running breezy, if you are you can just upgrade to dapper.
[07:55] <wimpies> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/
[07:55] <noteventime> jjesse: :S, maybe it starts an old konqueror session
[07:55] <wimpies> yes but I have 3 rootkits installed and want to get rid of them and was considering to use dapper
[07:56] <noteventime> ok
[07:56] <wimpies> the above URL has different links ... live and install .  so the install is not yet read then ?
[07:57] <noteventime> jjesse: Try to disable "restore last session" in session manager
[07:58] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Find anything odd?
[07:58] <jjesse> session manager in system settings?
[07:58] <noteventime> yes, or kcontrol
[07:59] <jjesse> ok trying that thanks noteventime
[07:59] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: yep, fixed, sent to you by email. :)
[07:59] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Thanks ^^
[07:59] <noteventime> jjesse: Np
[07:59] <rysiek|pl> nop ;)
[08:00] <rysiek|pl> wimples: nope, Dapper is not ready yet. Try Breezy instead, upgrading to Dapper is not difficult later on.
[08:00] <noteventime> I thought i sis indexed when chanhing to 14 colors with convert :P
[08:00] <jjesse> flight 4 runs pretty stable for me :)
[08:00] <noteventime> Thanks ^^
[08:00] <rysiek|pl> my pleasure ;)
[08:01] <rysiek|pl> jjesse: yep, but it's not *officially* released as stable yet :)
[08:01] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: so now only the usplash left to be hacked ;)
[08:02] <noteventime> yep :P
[08:03] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Have you tried Xgl and/or aiglx?
[08:04] <noteventime> Well, time for another reboot
[08:06] <Aapzak> mornin' lads
[08:06] <jjesse> aftern Aapzak
[08:07] <rysiek|pl> !Xgl
[08:07] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[08:07] <jjesse> does it work in kubuntu or is it a ubuntu only thing?'
[08:08] <Aapzak> xgl works in KDE as well, but much better in GNome
[08:08] <Aapzak> it was made for Gnome
[08:08] <Aapzak> so, Ubuntu
[08:09] <noteventime> yay
[08:10] <rysiek|pl> :)
[08:10] <noteventime> Works good, although I'll need to tweak the image a little
[08:10] <rysiek|pl> go for it. remember to switch to Mode -> RGB when changing the image, and then, before saving, to Indexed
[08:10] <noteventime> yep
[08:11] <rysiek|pl> as for Xgl - heard about it and waiting for it to be usable ;) but it really is something *very* interesting, I'd say
[08:11] <Aapzak> ow, it is very useable
[08:11] <rysiek|pl> !aiglx
[08:11] <ubotu> rysiek|pl: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:11] <Aapzak> as long as you use gnome
[08:11] <rysiek|pl> why GNOME?
[08:12] <Aapzak> because compiz replaces your window manager and you can't replace kwin as easely
[08:13] <noteventime> compiz works good with KDE
[08:13] <rysiek|pl> I am a KDEling, I don't like GNOME
[08:13] <rysiek|pl> great :)
[08:13] <rysiek|pl> then I have to try the damn thing ;)
[08:13] <Aapzak> I used it on KDE, but kmail didn't work and all konqueror windows appeared after the cube, not useable
[08:13] <noteventime> use gnome-window-decorator in KDE is nop
[08:13] <rysiek|pl> but AFTER i get usplash to behave nicely and AFTER I get HURD installed ;)
[08:13] <noteventime> HURD?
[08:13] <rysiek|pl> !hurd
[08:13] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek|pl
[08:14] <rysiek|pl> http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/hurd.html
[08:14] <noteventime> aiglx is kinda like normal xorg but with compositing for effekts
[08:14] <noteventime> In my opinion Xgl is better but aiglx is more stable
[08:14] <rysiek|pl> Debian/HURD is the first HURD distro, it's in the alpha stage, but it's a very interesting project
[08:15] <rysiek|pl> m'kay guys. gotta go watch a film or something - 'nuff sitting on IRC ;)
[08:15] <noteventime> bye
[08:15] <rysiek|pl> cu all tomorrow, heavy usplash testing underway ;)
[08:15] <noteventime> haha
[08:24] <echdev> weird
[08:24] <echdev> when my laptop screen is closed
[08:24] <echdev> after a while
[08:24] <echdev> I open it again and it doesn't turn back on
[08:24] <echdev> :(
[08:26] <noteventime> echdev: Does it go into stand by?
[08:27] <noteventime> echdev: I'm having the same probem with standby since upgrading to dapper
[08:28] <echdev> i dont think so
[08:29] <echdev> im pretty sure I haven't enabled that
[08:29] <echdev> but I close the lid and it's ok
[08:29] <echdev> if I close it and let it sit a while, it wont come back
[08:32] <noteventime> echdev: Hmm... Maybe it suspends after a while :/
[08:33] <echdev> maybe
[08:33] <echdev> i was told ubuntu had this problem, but I never had it with my laptop
[08:33] <echdev> but I am with kubuntu :o
[08:34] <echdev> breezy badger
[08:35] <larsivi> Has anyone installed the gutenprint drivers on Breezy?
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> BRB, gonna hit the router, see if it's gotten unstable or something.
[08:45] <ronaldson40> Can i run Prince of Persia : The Two thrones on Kubuntu
[08:46] <Aapzak> common zaggy,
[08:47] <noteventime> ronaldson40: Depends, cedega might be able
[08:47] <ronaldson40> If i can run it wat should i install to run it
[08:47] <ronaldson40> Is cadega paid
[08:47] <noteventime> Cedega, which isn't free, but you can always resort to p*r*a*c*
[08:48] <noteventime> *cought*bittorrent*cough*
[08:48] <ronaldson40> wat is P*r*a*c
[08:48] <noteventime> piracy :P
[08:48] <ronaldson40> could u give me a link
[08:48] <noteventime> ops i messed the *
[08:49] <ronaldson40> sorry i thought it was software
[08:49] <Psi-Jack> Or you can get cedega from CVS. :p
[08:49] <noteventime> I don't think you can anymore :(
[08:49] <Psi-Jack> Yes, actually, you can.
[08:49] <ronaldson40> so is cadega the only software for this
[08:49] <Pwn3d> hi any speak spanish
[08:49] <Pwn3d> plz
[08:49] <Pwn3d> i need help
[08:50] <larsivi> !es
[08:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:50] <noteventime> ronaldson40: For games using DirectX, yes
[08:50] <ronaldson40> yes
[08:50] <noteventime> ronaldson40: For OpenGL games you can use wine, which cedega is based on..
[08:50] <ronaldson40> k
[08:51] <noteventime> ronaldson40: I'll gave you a link in a few minutes
[08:51] <ronaldson40> k thanx
[08:51] <noteventime> My Xserver is kinda bugged so i'll have to restart it
[08:51] <ronaldson40> k
[08:51] <ronaldson40> i 'll wait
[08:52] <stian> Hey, I have a question, it's not linux related, but still. When I do a search for my name on google, Konqueror and Opera shows my site as the first result, but when I do it in FF, im not even listed on the first page...whats up with that? How does it work?
[08:52] <noteventime> Who was it with cedega?
[08:54] <noteventime> ??
[08:54] <noteventime> 'ello % FF0
[08:55] <trappist> noteventime: http://transgaming.org/cvs/
[08:56] <noteventime> Cool
[08:56] <noteventime> I thought you warent able to do that with version 5
[08:56] <ronaldson40> hi
[08:56] <trappist> *shrug* maybe it's out of date.  never heard about them dropping it.
[08:56] <ronaldson40> noteventime
[08:57] <noteventime> 'ello
[08:57] <ronaldson40> hi
[08:57] <ronaldson40> abt the link ur were talkin abt
[08:58] <_admin> xcvxcgvx
[09:00] <ronaldson40> msg nickserv register aa
[09:02] <Tm_T> !register
[09:02] <ubotu> register is probably type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[09:07] <Snake__> Mornin all
[09:07] <noteventime> 'ello
[09:07] <noteventime> hehe it's 9PM here :D
[09:07] <Snake__> noteventime: 3 pm here ;)
[09:07] <noteventime> OH :D
[09:09] <Snake__> Hmmm this room is quite today
[09:09] <Snake__> Tis a good thing :)
[09:10] <pm> Snake__, where are the other two?
[09:10] <Snake__> pm: ??
[09:10] <Snake__> quiet** :)
[09:10] <noteventime> Man, usplash is hard to configure
[09:11] <pm> i'm one and the only ;)
[09:11] <Snake__> pm: Oh! Rofl, I just now got that
[09:23] <larsivi> !gutenprint
[09:23] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, larsivi
[09:25] <_b> !sane
[09:25] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _b
[09:35] <joeytribb> hi all
[09:38] <_moep_> hi
[09:39] <larsivi> noone here tried the gutenprint (5.0.0rc2) drivers?
[09:39] <_moep_> i have some problems to start kubuntu cant start the install....
[09:42] <_moep_> i have an acer TravelMate 4652 LMi
[09:44] <_moep_> and used some boot parameters but it doesnt works.. get only
[09:44] <_moep_> Umcompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel
[09:44] <_moep_> nd then black screen and nothing happens...
[09:45] <larsivi> Hmm, might be a problem with the screen resolution somehow
[09:46] <_moep_> i think so, too but i have net really expierience with linux
[09:46] <_moep_> i used boot parameter
[09:46] <_moep_> linux vga=791 nehmen
[09:46] <_moep_> linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[09:46] <_moep_> and linux
[09:49] <trappist> _moep_: is that the tiny laptop with only a usb cdrom drive?
[09:51] <_moep_> no
[09:51] <_moep_> its this one:
[09:52] <_moep_> http://www.acer.de/acereuro/page4.do?dau22.oid=9005&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=9&CountryISOCtxParam=DE&LanguageISOCtxParam=de&crc=2118416267
[09:52] <_moep_> (sry its a german link)
[09:53] <Skrot> trappist: You're thinking of Acer Travelmate 3000TWMi, and it's a firewire DVD-drive ;)
[09:57] <_moep_> mmh and now?^^
[09:57] <Heinkel> hello?
[09:57] <trappist> Skrot: right you are :)
[09:57] <Skrot> Ofcourse, I'm using it ;)
[09:58] <Heinkel> i am looking for a url to a good kubuntu installation guide...can anyone help me?
[09:58] <Heinkel> needs to cover setting up disk partitions and the installation itself...help
[09:59] <Heinkel> i have downloaded both live and setup CD from bittorrent...so now i need guidance :(
[10:00] <sebi> you should try the kubuntu-forum, but the installation is really easy, so try to make it own your own, you will see, you will make it
[10:00] <tomas_> hi
[10:00] <tomas_> is there anyone who knows his way around sound systems?
[10:00] <Heinkel> just insert cd..cross fingers?
[10:01] <_moep_> Skrot: wich boot parameter i should use?
[10:01] <arrinmurr> is there a way to change the language after installation? and i don't mean keyboard layout
[10:01] <sebi> the installtion needs only a few information,the most will be configured automatically
[10:01] <Skrot> _moep_: Youve got a 3000-series?
[10:02] <_moep_> no
[10:02] <_moep_> 4652LMi
[10:02] <Skrot> And what's the problem?
[10:02] <Skrot> acpi=off noacpi noapic seems to be a good bet for most laptops by the way
[10:02] <_moep_> ok i test it
[10:03] <Skrot> But it really depends what the problem is..
[10:03] <buntu-tablet> sweet,  kubuntu 6.1 supports my so far not supported in linux Toshiba SD Card reader
[10:03] <_moep_> wow thx it works
[10:03] <Skrot> Make it support by Texas Instruments PCIxx21 already :P
[10:03] <_moep_> 6.1? i have only 5.1. :/
[10:03] <buntu-tablet> it's the beta
[10:04] <buntu-tablet> drapper or whatever
[10:04] <_moep_> ok
[10:04] <jpowers> dapper
[10:04] <jpowers> dapper drake
[10:04] <buntu-tablet> that's it
[10:05] <buntu-tablet> ubuntu is the only distro that installs, supports my Intel Wireless 2200, my gigabit, cdrom, wacom tablet screen, with no modifications for my Toshiba Tecra M4-S435 Tablet PC
[10:05] <sebi> @buntu-tablet: my intern sd card reader works with 6.04 ,too. I'm really surprised about the positiv development of the Kubuntu project
[10:06] <jpowers> buntu-tablet: does it support touch sensitivity?
[10:06] <buntu-tablet> yep
[10:06] <jpowers> awesome
[10:06] <buntu-tablet> krita and gimp both
[10:06] <jpowers> I've been tempted to get an x41 tablet
[10:06] <buntu-tablet> not very many "notebook" applications out there yet
[10:06] <trappist> buntu-tablet: similar experience here on my inspiron 600m (same wireless card)
[10:07] <trappist> buntu-tablet: though the 2200 drivers are hella buggy
[10:07] <jpowers> buntu-tablet: will having a tablet change my life?
[10:07] <buntu-tablet> jpowers: that was my other choice,  I went for 1lb heavier, but with DVD-RAM/RW/R, bluetooth, and a faster 1.73ghz pentium-m
[10:07] <jpowers> ;)
[10:07] <buntu-tablet> jpowers: for less $
[10:07] <buntu-tablet> jpowers: it's changed mine
[10:08] <jpowers> sweet
[10:08] <buntu-tablet> $1599 for this model
[10:08] <buntu-tablet> on newegg
[10:08] <jpowers> not bad
[10:08] <buntu-tablet> it's DDR2, and 2.5" sata hard drive
[10:08] <buntu-tablet> and nvidia geforce 6200 w/128mb
[10:08] <trpr42> buntu-tablet: just bought a laptop last week. should be arriving soon. it will be my first one :) can't wait to go outside or something, lol
[10:09] <buntu-tablet> plays quake4 very nice :)
[10:09] <jpowers> buntu-tablet: very nice.
[10:09] <buntu-tablet> trpr42: awesome
[10:09] <buntu-tablet> jpowers: the only down side was that my SD card (where i store all my note taking doc's in windows) didn't work in linux
[10:10] <buntu-tablet> even with updated kernel (2.6.15) in any other distro
[10:10] <buntu-tablet> i just installed dapper for the heck of it, and it showed up on my desktop,  I was like WHOA
[10:10] <jpowers> awesome
[10:10] <buntu-tablet> the x41's are fully supported
[10:10] <buntu-tablet> in linux
[10:11] <buntu-tablet> and the only hardware not working now in linux for this Tecra M4 S435 is the Accelaromiter for stopping the hard drive if the laptop goes into motion
[10:12] <buntu-tablet> i replaced a 2.0ghz Dell Insprion 8600 with a slower 1.73,  but I'll never go back to normal laptop
[10:12] <buntu-tablet> the sata, and ddr2 make up for the speed difference anyway
[10:12] <jpowers> I have an 8600
[10:12] <jpowers> I really like the 1920x1200 res
[10:12] <buntu-tablet> it was beautiful
[10:12] <jpowers> That's what I'll miss switching down
[10:12] <buntu-tablet> in 2d
[10:13] <buntu-tablet> it wouldn't push even old games though
[10:13] <buntu-tablet> and then it would get fuzzy
[10:13] <jpowers> mine would overheat when I played games
[10:13] <buntu-tablet> theis 1400x1020 i snice
[10:13] <jpowers> :s
[10:13] <buntu-tablet> or whatever it is..  1400xsomething
[10:13] <buntu-tablet> and it's light... so light
[10:14] <buntu-tablet> 8600 weighs a ton
[10:14] <jpowers> I have an old X21
[10:14] <jpowers> that thing is light
[10:14] <buntu-tablet> battery life is right at 3.5 hours
[10:14] <jpowers> and I trust thinkpads to be reliable
[10:14] <buntu-tablet> yes
[10:14] <jpowers> which is why I was going to go with an x41
[10:14] <buntu-tablet> yeah
[10:14] <jpowers> but if the tecra is that good, maybe I'll go for that.
[10:14] <buntu-tablet> and you can get about 6hrs from the x41
[10:14] <jpowers> that's compelling.
[10:14] <buntu-tablet> my tecra just survived a 5 foot fall onto a smooth concrete floor
[10:15] <jpowers> wow
[10:15] <buntu-tablet> fell off the bookshelf
[10:15] <buntu-tablet> no damage
[10:15] <jpowers> awesome
[10:15] <buntu-tablet> it was open, and on
[10:15] <buntu-tablet> folded over in tablet mode
[10:15] <Skrot> Is it possible to download a kubuntu dapper netinst iso?
[10:15] <buntu-tablet> the clippy that holds the screen down in tablet mode, popped out of it's holder
[10:15] <jjesse_meeting> Skrot: i don't think so
[10:16] <Skrot> jjesse_meeting: hmm, okay
[10:16] <jpowers> buntu-tablet: very cool
[10:16] <buntu-tablet> i pushed it back in,  ran disk bad cluster detection 6 times on the drive
[10:16] <buntu-tablet> it survived
[10:16] <buntu-tablet> it's never going to happen again.. but yeah
[10:17] <buntu-tablet> it was in winxp though, so the drive stopped
[10:17] <buntu-tablet> err  "parked"  when it detected it was falling
[10:18] <buntu-tablet> tryiing to get that working in linux now.
[10:18] <buntu-tablet> hdaps
[10:18] <buntu-tablet> it wasn't rough concrete,  that probably would have scratched up the case..
[10:19] <buntu-tablet> sounded like a empty plastic container hitting the floor..
[10:19] <buntu-tablet> my 8600 survived a 3 foot fall from the front seat to the floorboard..
[10:20] <buntu-tablet> from like 60mpg to 15mpg
[10:30] <duckdown> Hi all.. I installed Dapper 4 and i think its great, but, after clicking the UPDATES button in the taskbar and completing it, It's still displaying the damn exlaimation point icon saying that there are '3 updated packages available' .. but after clicking it, it's just saying everything is up to date!
[10:32] <buntu-tablet> duckdown: sounds like something is being not updated for some dep reason or something
[10:35] <crweb> what do i apt-get to get the sources that linux-image-2.6.15-16-386 were built with (for installing other modules)
[10:40] <trappist> crweb: try linux-tree-2.6.15-16
[10:41] <crweb> it doesn't exist
[10:42] <trappist> hrm.  you're right.  coulda sworn...
[10:42] <crweb> yeah, that's it for 2.6.12
[10:42] <crweb> which is how i knew it exist
[10:43] <trappist> linux-source
[10:43] <crweb> it's just the source though
[10:43] <crweb> not the compiled version and the same .config
[10:44] <crweb> unless that doesn't matter
[10:44] <trappist> I guess I'm not sure what you're looking for.  you want the source or the kernel image?
[10:45] <crweb> inorder to build modules for the current running kernel, you need the kernel tree from the kernel you are running
[10:45] <crweb> not just the source
[10:45] <crweb> not just the image
[10:45] <crweb> has to be the same .config and all kinds of stuff i thought
[10:46] <crweb> i think i got it,  brb
[10:47] <UNDERsoN> hello everybody
[10:48] <UNDERsoN> it's my first time in kubuntu )) i think you're not so lucky as me about this
[10:49] <UNDERsoN> only 1 question where i can get mc dev package?
[10:49] <UNDERsoN> deb
[10:50] <UNDERsoN> o i understand you're not so friendly as i think
[10:50] <UNDERsoN> so good by if you don't wanna help
[10:59] <unperson> I currently have Ubuntu Breezy installed on my home computer.  Follow the instructions on the wiki for installing Kubuntu-desktop, will the result be functionally the same as having installed kubuntu fresh from the CD (asside from a bunch of old Gnome stuff taking up space)?
[11:00] <osh_> unperson: yes.
[11:00] <unperson> Or is it likely that various setting made during install will be different than if I had installed kubuntu fresh?
[11:01] <unperson> osh_:  I'll take that as a no to the second part of the question then I guess.  :-)
[11:01] <osh_> unperson: sorry. baby crying. only one hand. no time.
[11:01] <unperson> osh_:  Np.  My intent was to save you some typing.
[11:01] <unperson> But oh well.  :-)
[11:02] <osh_> unperson: not sure.
[11:02] <unperson> 2nd Question:  Are releases slower on the kubuntu side of things because this is not the original/main version of Ubuntu?
[11:03] <Celeste> hi
[11:03] <Celeste> Please help me,  between Line 55 and 60  were a lot of errors coming up  while installing APACHE 1.3
[11:03] <Celeste> http://pastebin.com/582567
[11:03] <osh_> unperson: no. not really.
[11:04] <osh_> unperson: and canonical is aiming at making kub as official as ub is.
[11:04] <unperson> Cool.  Sounds worth a try then.  Having used both Gnome and KDE, I found KDE to be a bit more full featured/mature.
[11:05] <_b> !se
[11:05] <ubotu> _b: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:05] <osh_> unperson: me too. but ymmv.
[11:06] <wimpies>  does anybody know if there is an installable kubuntu dapper iso image ?
[11:07] <osh_> Celeste: looks ok to me. whats the prob?
[11:07] <osh_> wimpies: yes. on hp.
[11:07] <wimpies> osh_ : euh ... where ?
[11:07] <Celeste> osh_, errors between line 55 and 60
[11:07] <osh_> wimpies: homepage
[11:08] <wimpies> well I think I tried that one and it claims it is NOT an installable CD ... ?
[11:08] <osh_> Celeste: looks like they were recovered. isn't apachhe running?
[11:08] <crweb> i just installed dapper from cd 30 minutes ago
[11:09] <crweb> everything is working fine
[11:09] <Celeste> it is running...
[11:09] <osh_> wimpies: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-4/
[11:10] <unperson> wimpies:  Is it possible the CD burned incorrectly?
[11:10] <crweb> wimpies: my install went perfect,  even hardware not supported in the standard kernel is working
[11:11] <wimpies> unperson : it booted I got the gui, it asked me language and keyboard layout scanned for CD and then claimed it was not enough to install with
[11:11] <unperson> ah
[11:11] <unperson> wimpies:  Weird.
[11:11] <wimpies> osh_ :  that is the one I tried
[11:12] <unperson> osh_:  Thanks a lot.
[11:12] <unperson> Later.
[11:12] <wimpies> Can I see some log output so I can check why it failed ?
[11:13] <Pyrobob> hey I gotta small problem
[11:13] <_b> !krypto
[11:13] <ubotu> _b: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:14] <osh_> wimpies: checksum it?
[11:14] <Pyrobob> I occasionally get a serious lag session
[11:14] <Pyrobob> and their happening more often as I run Linux
[11:14] <wimpies> osh_ : if the image boots all right, I presume it is correct.
[11:15] <Pyrobob> ...
[11:15] <Pyrobob> any ideas?
[11:15] <osh_> wimpies: burn another. i got one from there and it worked fine.
[11:16] <_b> anyone using cryptated drives for security ?
[11:16] <zax1> hola
[11:17] <wimpies> I think I got it, my second CD contained an AUDIO cd and while scanning for CD's the installer though that that was the right CD
[11:17] <osh_> _b: have a look at truecrypt. it's got ubuntu deb and all.
[11:17] <osh_> Pyrobob: manifesting how?
[11:17] <Pyrobob> just has a serious lag session
[11:17] <Pyrobob> just randomly
[11:18] <Pyrobob> more and more often
[11:18] <Pyrobob> can't run anything extra
[11:18] <osh_> Pyrobob: running what?
[11:18] <Pyrobob> Kubuntu
[11:18] <crweb> wimpies: 2nd cd?
[11:18] <osh_> Pyrobob: not net lag, just slow computer?
[11:18] <Pyrobob> yes
[11:18] <Pyrobob> looking at the process table right now
[11:18] <wimpies> crweb : yes the audio cd was in the second drive
[11:19] <crweb> oh oh
[11:19] <crweb> i see
[11:19] <Pyrobob> see if I can close anything thats not needed
[11:19] <danni> Can someone help me? I'm trying to install the ATI drivers, and I can't get the distro box to show any of the Ubuntu ones
[11:19] <osh_> Pyrobob: what does top say?
[11:19] <Pyrobob> top?
[11:20] <osh_> yes
[11:20] <zax1> can anyone recomend a good media player that come packed with all the necesery codecs to play any file on the planet ?
[11:20] <Pyrobob> ...
[11:20] <zax1> or there about.....
[11:20] <cold> I just started the ubuntu live cd and totem has no video mpeg support, what plugin should I download ?
[11:20] <osh_> console, type top
[11:20] <Pyrobob> ah
[11:20] <Pyrobob> one sec
[11:20] <zax1> or maybe just a codec pack similar to the Klite package that is for linux
[11:20] <zax1> i dont care if its open source or not
[11:21] <osh_> cold: i use vlc or mplayer... :-)
[11:21] <robotgeek> cold: do you mean dapper/breezy?
[11:21] <neoncode> is running "sudo apt-get install gstremer*" a bad idea?
[11:21] <Pyrobob> everything is root except like 4 things
[11:22] <osh_> Pyrobob: what's the load?
[11:22] <cold> umm
[11:22] <cold> breezy
[11:22] <Pyrobob> there's 70 tasks 1 running 69 sleeping is what it says
[11:22] <cold> rebotgeek breezy
[11:23] <osh_> Pyrobob: you should have 3 load avg at the top of the screen
[11:23] <Pyrobob> oh it says load average: 0.22, 0.35, 0.34
[11:24] <neoncode> Pyrobob: Hi ya pyro
[11:24] <osh_> Pyrobob: does anything change when the comp freezes up?
[11:24] <osh_> Pyrobob: in top that is.
[11:24] <Pyrobob> not sure it hasn't froze up so far
[11:24] <Pyrobob> lemme open gAIM and see what happens
[11:25] <Pyrobob> that and Kopete give me the most trouble
[11:25] <osh_> Pyrobob: keep looking
[11:25] <wimpies> The boot process only proposes american timezones ... why ?
[11:25] <osh_> py start kopete and see what happems
[11:25] <_ben> can anyone recomend a good ftp program other that kbear
[11:25] <Pyrobob> load average: 0.75, 0.49, 0.38
[11:25] <osh_> _ben: konqueror?
[11:25] <Pyrobob> first number jumped tio 95, then dropped to 80
[11:25] <wimpies> _ben : konqueror ?
[11:26] <_ben> How does that work?
[11:26] <wimpies> ftp://WWW/...
[11:26] <wimpies> _ben : and it works from ANY location (also from KDE apps)
[11:26] <Pyrobob> ...
[11:27] <osh_> Pyrobob: keep an eye on top when comp freezes up
[11:27] <Pyrobob> k its never actually "froze" just lagged extremely bad
[11:27] <crweb> why does firefox keep wanting to put my downloads into /tmp?
[11:27] <Pyrobob> like 30 minutes to close a gAMI window
[11:27] <crweb> i have it set to ask me
[11:27] <Pyrobob> gAIM*
[11:27] <wimpies> crweb : I think it is a preference somewhere
[11:28] <crweb> wimpies: i have it set to ask me..
[11:28] <Pyrobob> first number is jumping around from 50 to 80 or so
[11:28] <jf-> so, i've compiled my own kde vanilla sources (i need to have a stock-kde install for one of the accounts on my box), but it appears that the compile is still retaining some kubuntu settings
[11:28] <_ben> that's brilliant - thanks osh and wimpies
[11:29] <jf-> for example, the "window" menu is still missing as it was from the Kubuntu/KDE
[11:29] <_ben> i'm imbarrased that i didn't already know about it
[11:29] <wimpies> crweb : donno then ... never tried ask
[11:29] <jf-> (in konq, that is)
[11:29] <wimpies> let me try it here
[11:29] <Pyrobob> first number jumped to 1.41
[11:29] <Pyrobob> second to .670 and third to .46
[11:30] <wimpies> crweb: it asks me
[11:31] <ttread> Does anyone know what happened to kweather?  I notice it does not appear in the list of applets in Dapper.
[11:31] <wimpies> I have version 1.0.7
[11:31] <wimpies> I save to the desktop and use konqueror to move it around
[11:31] <wimpies> (easier)
[11:32] <zax1> can any one help a noob?
[11:32] <zax1> just made the switch from windows
[11:32] <wimpies> zax1 : congrats
[11:32] <zax1> and am getting a headache trying to figure it all out
[11:32] <zax1> thanks wimpies
[11:33] <wimpies> zax1 : figuring what out
[11:33] <chx> why I have a small "Berlin" below my clock? TZ I guess, but I'd like to get rid of it
[11:33] <zax1> a couple of stuff, i know istill think windows but i cant help my self
[11:33] <zax1> is there a "program files" folder somewhere
[11:33] <wimpies> chx : click right and set timezone
[11:33] <zax1> that i can see all my installed programs ?
[11:34] <wimpies> zax1 : no programs can be installed in any location but most are installed in /usr/bin
[11:34] <zax1> ok
[11:34] <chx> wimpies: bah, did that but that did not make the TZ disapperar
[11:34] <wimpies> zax1 : linux uses the path variable to determine where things are
[11:34] <ttread> zax1, most software installs under the /usr folder, you can run find from there
[11:34] <chx> oh!!
[11:34] <chx> local timezone!
[11:34] <chx> finally.
[11:34] <zax1> how do i put them in my Kmenue
[11:34] <zax1> for example
[11:34] <zax1> does VLC come installed by default
[11:34] <zax1> if so where is it ?
[11:35] <wimpies> zax1 : click right on menu, add item, browse the disk and locate the executable
[11:35] <zax1> i mean - where do ui usualy launch apps from if they are not on the Kmenu by default
[11:35] <wimpies> zax1 : a good way to determine where things are is execute which COMMAND from a konsole applciation (should be in the menu)
[11:36] <crweb> zax1: open a konsole, or in the menu click on Run Command:
[11:36] <ttread> zax1, I usually look in Adept to see if things are installed
[11:36] <wimpies> zax1 : I think if you click right on the desktop you can find the ;run' command too ...
[11:36] <zax1> i love it - your enthusiasm capture me - so many helpers
[11:36] <zax1> :)
[11:36] <ttread> For example, in Adept I filter on vlc and it shows a number of packages
[11:37] <wimpies> zax1 : you will need to unlearn lots of windows habits like typing backslashes between directories
[11:37] <wimpies> or c: q: z: ...
[11:38] <zax1> i did that, but couldnt find it - vlc that is. i read somewhere about enabling universe and multiverse and use restricketed format
[11:38] <zax1> but i dont think my menue is similar
[11:38] <zax1> cuz it doesntfollow their instruction
[11:38] <wimpies> zax1 : that is in the /etc/apt/sources.list and yes you need to add program sources that are not 'pure free'
[11:39] <zax1> wimpies, i noticed that already about the habbits  - uphill all the way
[11:39] <zax1> how do i do it wimpie
[11:39] <fatejudger> has anyone here been able to mount samba shares at boot?
[11:39] <wimpies> you can add items using adept
[11:39] <ttread> zax1, yep, vlc is in universe repository, you can enable it from the Adept menu under "Manage Repositories"
[11:39] <wimpies> see 'system; menu
[11:40] <zax1> ttred - what is the diferance between adept and synaptic ?
[11:40] <fatejudger> zax1: QT vs GTK
[11:40] <ttread> zax1, not really any difference in function between the two
[11:40] <zax1> qt? what that ?
[11:40] <wimpies> zax1: they both use the same lower level package database : you can mix then
[11:40] <fatejudger> zax1: a GUI toolkit
[11:40] <wimpies> qt : is the library on which the KDE env is built (like win32 for windows)
[11:40] <zax1> right - that clears up some confusion
[11:41] <ttread> just different UIs
[11:41] <fatejudger> ttread: wtf, that's not right at all
[11:41] <fatejudger> ttread: they use two completely different toolkits
[11:41] <wimpies> tthread : not real UI but rather toolkits
[11:42] <ttread> Ok, sorry, it's more than the UI - but they both use apt underneath
[11:42] <_b> Is anyone using cryptaded hard drive ?
[11:42] <zax1> riht-
[11:43] <zax1> so how do i add the universe, i cant see it in the greyed out lines
[11:43] <wimpies> just add a line
[11:44] <_ben> is there a better html editor other that Quanta?
[11:45] <ttread> zax1, find the lines that start with 'deb' (not deb-src) and contain 'universe', right click and select enable
[11:45] <zax1> but what do i put in whimpies
[11:45] <Captainbraille> I have a question about adept too.. I'm trying to install Wine, there is only instructions on adding a repository to Synaptic, I'm using adept, this is the line.. "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/"  how do I fix it for adept?
[11:45] <wimpies> That I do not know ...
[11:46] <fatejudger> lol
[11:46] <Captainbraille> lol =)
[11:46] <fatejudger> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <fatejudger> that'll open up a CLI text editor
[11:46] <fatejudger> if you'd rather use kate then do
[11:46] <fatejudger> alt+f2
[11:46] <fatejudger> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:46] <fatejudger> you'll need to paste that line in the bottom of that file
[11:46] <fatejudger> use whichever method you want
[11:47] <neoncode> ok. automount sucks. when I plug in a USB storage device. it opens konquror to media:/sdb1 and says that it dosen't exist. if find that it's actualy mounted in "/media/sdb1" - oh and the icon for the device doesn't appear on my desktop...
[11:47] <Heinkel> hmmm wish me luck...starting install :)
[11:47] <Captainbraille> When I add the line, this is what I get under distribution "binary/"
[11:47] <fatejudger> ?
[11:48] <zax1> is there a "show desktop button on kubuntu
[11:49] <neoncode> any help?
[11:49] <crweb> zax1: right click on the panel, and add it
[11:49] <ttread> zax1, there is an applet that you can add to the toolbar to show desktop
[11:51] <zax1> its actualy quite intuitive
[11:56] <wimpies> anybody around with dapper install cd knowlegde : I installed and have two problems. 1 - a disks that he wants to mount 2 - the screen resolution after login on KDM switches to a bad setting
[11:57] <wimpies> and when I logout from that erroneous setting kdm crashes
[11:58] <ttread> wimpies, I had a similar problem with changing screen resolution in Dapper,
[11:59] <ttread> It's a documented bug, it either locks the screen or causes X to restart
[11:59] <wimpies> Ah ... I think I will go back to breezy
[12:00] <ttread> You could edit xorg.conf manually
[12:00] <wimpies> ok will try that
[12:02] <wimpies> tthread : xorg.conf seems to be ok (except for not using fglrx Like i had in breezy)