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[05:07] <Madpilot> hi all
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[06:05] <robotgeek> hey Madpilot , a bit late albeit
[06:11] <robotgeek> bhuvan: ping
[06:11] <bhuvan> robotgeek: pong
[06:12] <robotgeek> bhuvan: which makefile should is being talked about in $doc/teamstuff/doc.ubuntu.com/README
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[06:14] <bhuvan> robotgeek: they refer the Makefile in ubuntu/ and kubuntu/ dirs respectively
[06:14] <robotgeek> bhuvan: cool, let me se if it compiles with make kall :)
[06:15] <bhuvan> robotgeek: it may not :)
[06:15] <robotgeek> make all, atleast
[06:15] <bhuvan> robotgeek: visit http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[06:15] <bhuvan> nope, i guess. if yes, then it should appear in http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[06:15] <robotgeek> bhuvan: it takes a day, after i submit the patch for the makefile, i think
[06:16] <bhuvan> yep! the documents on preview server are built once a day
[06:17] <bhuvan> you can make changes to Makefile and include kdg in "all" target and confirm desktop-guide appears in the above url. later, you can include that link in sidebar.inc.php
[06:18] <robotgeek> cool, let's just hope i am able to fix the make file, lol
[06:20] <bhuvan> robotgeek: you can refer ubuntu/Makefile for details. just copy/paste those entries. WARNING: please run 'make kdg and confirm it is built. run 'make all' and confirm kdg is also built and finally commit!
[06:21] <robotgeek> bhuvan: make kdg works, something else is messing up
[06:22] <bhuvan> then all you should do is include 'kdg' in 'all' target
[06:22] <robotgeek> bhuvan: cool, uno momento
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[06:29] <robotgeek> bhuvan: should i be including desktop-web in the make all target?
[06:32] <bhuvan> robotgeek: if you include kdg and add in 'all' target
[06:33] <robotgeek> bhuvan: the current make all fails because of errors in "kubuntu packing guide" and "install" guide
[06:33] <robotgeek> maybe i should ask mdke 
[06:34] <robotgeek> bhuvan: or you can also tell me what to do :)
[06:34] <bhuvan> robotgeek: yeah, i'll check; seems you are right. 'make all' fails since jan 18; refer the modified time in Scripts to Help Create 
[06:35] <bhuvan> Instance Sets/Scripts to Help Create/http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/
[06:35] <robotgeek> bhuvan: commenting out both works fine
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[06:37] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco
[06:37] <robotgeek> hey jsgotangco Burgundavia 
[06:38] <LaserJock> hi jsgotangco 
[06:38] <robotgeek> hey LaserJock :P
[06:39] <jsgotangco> hi
[06:39] <bhuvan> robotgeek: install guide is fixed
[06:40] <robotgeek> bhuvan: should i svn up and try again?
[06:40] <bhuvan> robotgeek: ofcourse
[06:41] <bhuvan> robotgeek: packaging guide seem to do well
[06:42] <robotgeek> bhuvan: are you sure you fixed the install guide in kubuntu/
[06:42] <robotgeek> or am i missing something obvious here 
[06:43] <bhuvan> you can do 'svn up' and run ./validate.sh generic/installguide/C/installguide.xml
[06:43] <robotgeek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9660
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[06:43] <robotgeek> bhuvan: oh, i meant a install guide in kubuntu/
[06:43] <robotgeek> it's not the same as in generic
[06:44] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: what do you know about those makefiles in kubuntu/ :P
[06:44] <bhuvan> robotgeek: refer kubuntu/Makefile, the install target is based on generic/installguide/C/
[06:44] <jsgotangco> none at all, KDE has its own mad processing
[06:45] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: yeah, i have the meinproc's and stuff :)
[06:45] <bhuvan> robotgeek: i guess, kubuntu/installguide/C is unused. it is empty ?
[06:46] <robotgeek> bhuvan: yup
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[06:48] <robotgeek> kdelibs-bin
[06:48] <bhuvan> robotgeek, yeah
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[06:53] <Burgundavia> do we mention xchat anywhere in our docs? Looks like it is going away and not coming back
[06:53] <jsgotangco> bye bye xchat
[06:54] <robotgeek> where, what! 
[06:54] <Madpilot> it's XChat-Gnome in the UDG. (XChat-Godawful...)
[06:54] <robotgeek> oh, there are two versions of xchat, <sigh>
[06:55] <Madpilot> There's the odd, not-modern-feeling (but powerful) XChat, and the new shiny (gutted) XChat-Gnome
[06:55] <robotgeek> Madpilot: why do i get the feeling that i should stick to being a console jockey, lol
[06:56] <Burgundavia> no, xchat and x-gnome are going away
[06:56] <robotgeek> replaced by?
[06:56] <Burgundavia> nothing
[06:57] <robotgeek> bhuvan: looks like my bad, the packaging guide does build
[06:57] <Burgundavia> currently being debated in #ubuntu-devel right now
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[06:57] <robotgeek> bhuvan: install guide doesn't
[06:58] <bhuvan> robotgeek: ok, have you done 'svn up'
[06:58] <robotgeek> bhuvan: yes, the install guide is basically empty :)
[06:59] <bhuvan> robotgeek: i assume, you try cd kubuntu/ && make install
[06:59] <bhuvan> if you do so, it will build generic/installguide.. and you will not face any problem
[07:00] <robotgeek> bhuvan: oh yes
[07:00] <robotgeek> bhuvan: sorry, having a bad day
[07:01] <bhuvan> np
[07:01] <bhuvan> robotgeek: now you can go ahead with your desktop stuff (where we started!)
[07:02] <robotgeek> bhuvan: okay, i'll make desktop and pray!
[07:03] <bhuvan> ha ha ha .. ok :) best wishes :)
[07:04] <robotgeek> bhuvan: crap, i have to fight meinproc, lol
[07:04] <bhuvan> ?
[07:04] <robotgeek> bhuvan: the target is desktop-web, i suppose
[07:07] <bhuvan> robotgeek: i guess not, refer ubuntu/Makefile for details
[07:07] <robotgeek> bhuvan: i checked the outputs, the output of desktop-web == standard output
[07:08] <robotgeek> for webpages
[07:08] <bhuvan> ok
[07:11] <bhuvan> robotgeek: seems desktop-* targets of kubuntu is broken or point of odd directories. it has to be fixed before you make new changes
[07:12] <bhuvan> s/point of/point to/
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[07:12] <robotgeek> bhuvan: okay, i'll see what i ca ndo
[07:13] <bhuvan> ok
[07:14] <robotgeek> bhuvan: if you are going to be up for a while, i'll show you when i'm done?
[07:15] <bhuvan> sure
[07:17] <Madpilot> can someone running Dapper check something for me?
[07:18] <Burgundavia> bhuvan: ping (testing connection)
[07:18] <Madpilot> ...so much for his connection :P
[07:19] <robotgeek> Madpilot: you mean, ubuntu right?
[07:19] <Madpilot> robotgeek, yeah, Ubuntu Dapper - not Kubuntu, sorry
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[07:19] <robotgeek> :P
[07:19] <bhuvan> Burgundavia: pong
[07:19] <bhuvan> Madpilot: yes
[07:20] <corey_> bhuvan: cheers
[07:20] <Madpilot> bhuvan, can you just install gnucash & tell me if it's got a automatic menu entry yet? Thanks - trying to finish up some bits of UDG...
[07:21] <bhuvan> Madpilot, yes
[07:21] <Madpilot> good, thanks
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[07:22] <Madpilot> gah - lots of depends?
[07:22] <bhuvan> yep
[07:32] <robotgeek> bhuvan: hey, i did not notice, but the status is online already :)
[07:32] <robotgeek> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/status/kdg-report.html
[07:33] <robotgeek> damn, i need to clean out the status tags
[07:33] <LaserJock> so are we going to need to get rid of the link to #ubuntu in the firefox starter page?
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[07:33] <robotgeek> LaserJock: so irc is no longer a viable support option?
[07:34] <Madpilot> LaserJock, why?
[07:34] <LaserJock> I don't know that we will have anything installed by default to do irc
[07:34] <robotgeek> LaserJock: irssi is as good as not being there
[07:34] <LaserJock> right now the link is irc://
[07:34] <robotgeek> gaim can do irc
[07:34] <bhuvan> robotgeek: yes. its not part of 'all' taget. but it is part of 'web' target. i assume, 'web' target documents are placed online 
[07:35] <LaserJock> robotgeek: will it open up a irc:// URL from firefox?
[07:35] <robotgeek> LaserJock: probably not
[07:35] <Madpilot> LaserJock, I haven't bothered joining -devel - what's the talk on IRC apps in Dapper?
[07:35] <LaserJock> xchat and xchat-gnome are gone
[07:35] <LaserJock> from the default install
[07:35] <Madpilot> both? huh?
[07:35] <LaserJock> yep
[07:35] <Madpilot> I don't usually say this, but: WTF?
[07:36] <LaserJock> it was determined that IRC wasn't very important to most users
[07:36] <LaserJock> I think that is the basic idea anyway
[07:36] <LaserJock> IM was seen as much more used
[07:36] <Madpilot> 634 people in #ubuntu right now isn't important?
[07:36] <LaserJock> umm, I'm not sure
[07:37] <LaserJock> I guess it is assumed that they will install xchat if they want it
[07:38] <LaserJock> I hope I'm not misrepresenting the discussion
[07:39] <LaserJock> "jdub: what we ship in the desktop seed is stuff that will most likely be of use to the broadest cross-section of user profiles"
[07:40] <robitaille> how many people use Ekiga?
[07:40] <robitaille> I think the xchat client should stay personally
[07:40] <LaserJock> I have no idea, I'm still trying to figure out how to pronounce it ;-)
[07:40] <jsgotangco> im beginning to warm up on xchat-gnome though
[07:41] <Madpilot> Just because XChat-Gnome is fairly awful, we're dropping a default IRC client totally? :P
[07:41] <LaserJock> no
[07:41] <Madpilot> (only half-joking...)
[07:41] <robitaille> I'm back to irssi nowadays, but I think IRC is an easy way for user to get real time help.  And GAIM's irc is awful
[07:42] <LaserJock> well, I think if GAIM won't open an irc:// from Firefox we should remove the link. That is, if they stick to this decision
[07:42] <robitaille> it was easy to tell users:  click on the xchat button, click on connect, and you're there on #ubuntu to ask for help.
[07:44] <bhuvan> Madpilot: Q: gnucash automatic menu entry exists; A: NO
[07:44] <Madpilot> bhuvan, gah. Thanks for checking.
[07:45] <bhuvan> np
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[07:45] <LaserJock> hmm, well I gotta get to bed. Maybe by the time I wake up xchat will be back :-) Here's to dreaming
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[07:51] <robotgeek> bhuvan: "seems desktop-* targets of kubuntu is broken or point of odd directories. it has to be fixedbefore you make new changes". looks fine to me?
[08:01] <bhuvan> robotgeek: it builds under ubuntu-doc/kubuntu/build/... it is wrong. it should be ubuntu-doc/build/..
[08:01] <bhuvan> robotgeek: the issue exist for desktop-*
[08:02] <robotgeek> bhuvan: okay, will fix
[08:02] <bhuvan> nice
[08:02] <jsgotangco> hmm
[08:02] <jsgotangco> has anyone got a nice bluetooth guide
[08:07] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: i saw something on the wiki which worked for me
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[08:08] <robotgeek> BluetoothSetup
[08:11] <jsgotangco> that's pretty ugly but thanks
[08:11] <Madpilot> jsgotangco, it's a wiki, fix it :P
[08:11] <jsgotangco> yuck
[08:12] <corey_> {{sofixit}} is the appropriate response to this
[08:13] <jsgotangco> does our wiki hvae such templates?
[08:14] <Madpilot> CategoryCleanup?
[08:15] <jsgotangco> Madpilot, in mediawiki/wikipedia, there are status templates used all throughout
[08:15] <jsgotangco> in nice colorful boxes
[08:15] <robotgeek> bhuvan: even quickguide also builds in ubuntu-doc/kubuntu/build
[08:16] <corey_> jsgotangco: nop, it doesn't
[08:16] <bhuvan> oh ok. so, it needs to be fixed as well
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[08:16] <robotgeek> bhuvan: but it has a preview already?
[08:16] <corey_> jsgotangco: this is just one reason why i want to switch
[08:17] <bhuvan> robotgeek: not sure. check doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu though
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[08:17] <robotgeek> bhuvan: yes, it's in there
[08:17] <Madpilot> jsgotangco, yeah, I know - only thing we've got is catcleanup. I missed the <mild sarcasm> tag :P
[08:17] <robotgeek> bhuvan: also status is built in doc/kubuntu/builde
[08:17] <corey_> jsgotangco: I believe we can do something similar. Ask mdke
[08:18] <corey_> jsgotangco: one of the cool things about templates in mediawiki is that they can add a page to a category
[08:18] <robotgeek> corey_: how easy/feasible is it to move from moin to mediawiki?
[08:18] <jsgotangco> yeah
[08:18] <corey_> so we could have {{cleanup}} - which adds a tag to the top of the page, saying that the page is fuggly and add the page to cat cleanup
[08:19] <jsgotangco> {{cleanup}}
[08:19] <corey_> robotgeek: the issue is mostly social
[08:19] <jsgotangco> {{grammar}}
[08:19] <jsgotangco> {{needs_testing}}
[08:19] <corey_> ie, mdke and henrik don't want to
[08:19] <robotgeek> corey_: :P
[08:19] <bhuvan> robotgeek: seems almost all document are so.. i'm not sure whether it is intended or it is an issue
[08:19] <robotgeek> bhuvan: maybe it's intended, let me not break what works :)
[08:20] <jsgotangco> mediawiki's biggest strength aside from visual appeal of the doc is organization
[08:20] <bhuvan> in general, all documents are build under ubuntu-doc/build. not sure why kubuntu is an exception
[08:20] <corey_> mediawiki has the issue of being written in php
[08:20] <robotgeek> bhuvan: hmm, okay
[08:21] <jsgotangco> and mediawiki people aren't the greatest bug fixers for past versions
[08:21] <corey_> actually, mediawiki is pretty good on the security side
[08:21] <jsgotangco> its been better
[08:21] <jsgotangco> i just love how organized it can be
[08:22] <robotgeek> interesting...
[08:26] <corey_> jsgotangco: actually, they are pretty good
[08:28] <robotgeek> wohoo, my first commit
[08:29] <robotgeek> alrite, on that victorious note, i am off to bed!
[08:32] <Madpilot> likewise, actually. Just did a UDG commit, now I need sleep :P
[08:38] <mdke> morning
[08:39] <mdke> robotgeek_zzz, i'll take a look at the not building stuff
[08:39] <robotgeek_zzz> mdke: morning
[08:39] <mdke> it's the web target we need to work
[08:39] <robotgeek_zzz> mdke: well, that seemed to be a system, issue
[08:39] <mdke> oh right
[08:39] <robotgeek_zzz> and all the web targets work on my machine
[08:40] <mdke> ok fine
[08:41] <robotgeek_zzz> it's okay for them to build in ubuntu-doc/kubuntu/build, right?
[08:41] <mdke> yeah, I think that it what Riddell wants
[08:42] <mdke> i've lost track of the kubuntu stuff a bit because it uses a different system
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[08:43] <robotgeek_zzz> i would have been lost without it, seriously
[08:43] <robotgeek_zzz> anyways, night mdke 
[08:44] <mdke> night
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[08:57] <corey_> I wish I had that pcmcia wireless card still
[08:58] <corey_> they I could tell whether or not this wireless bug is my card or the router
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[09:25] <jsgotangco> can anyone verify on dapper that root terminal under system made a comeback
[09:27] <corey_> jsgotangco: yep, just saw that
[09:27] <corey_> jsgotangco: it is a bug I assume
[09:27] <jsgotangco> right
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[09:49] <corey_> night all
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[10:08] <pschulz01> Greeting, I have Ubuntu running on my Mac Mini.. and I would like to add some documentation to the Wiki on this system.. where is the best place to start?
[10:10] <jsgotangco> matt galvin used to handle PPC documentation
[10:10] <jsgotangco> hmm
[10:11] <mdke> pschulz01, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiGuide
[10:14] <pschulz01> There are several pages.. and the information seems to be spread around a bit..
[10:15] <pschulz01> UbuntuOnMac, HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsApple, HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops, HardwareSupportMachinesDesktops
[10:15] <mdke> the HardwareSupport pages are not documentation
[10:16] <mdke> i don't know about the others
[10:16] <mdke> feel free to integrate your guide with any existing material :)
[10:21] <pschulz01> Cheers
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[03:19] <jsgotangco> jdub: is that your home phone?
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[03:49] <EricNeon> hi all
[03:49] <EricNeon> anybody seen mark ?
[03:51] <jsgotangco> online?
[03:51] <EricNeon> yes
[03:52] <jsgotangco> he's online on the -devel channel but he's probably busy since he's not chatty at the moment
[03:52] <EricNeon> I will talk about ubuntu china team with him
[03:52] <jsgotangco> he went to beijing and shanghai you didnt get to meet him?
[03:53] <EricNeon> yes , we meet him
[03:54] <EricNeon> we talk over ubuntu in China
[03:54] <EricNeon> and I sent him a resume of ubuntu-cn team
[03:54] <EricNeon> then we waiting for his reply, but no~
[03:56] <EricNeon> we are preparing Dapper Release Party in Shanghai
[03:56] <jsgotangco> aren't we all :)
[03:56] <EricNeon> 'we' is meens Ubuntu-CN
[03:57] <jsgotangco> yes i'm very much aware of that :P
[03:58] <EricNeon> we are all fretfully
[04:01] <EricNeon> my god 
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[04:11] <EricNeon> test what 
[04:14] <jsgotangco> compiled kernel :)
[04:14] <EricNeon> oh
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[04:39] <WaterSevenUb> mdke, do you know if the OMF files that ship with ubuntu-doc have to be translated manually? I mean, the strings are not in any way imported from rosetta somewhere?
[04:40] <mdke> WaterSevenUb, they will be included in the template for each document in rosetta
[04:40] <WaterSevenUb> mdke, for dapper? in breezy they weren't, right?
[04:40] <mdke> this is a change from breezy, where they are untranslated
[04:40] <mdke> right
[04:40] <WaterSevenUb> ok
[04:40] <WaterSevenUb> great.
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=== mdke thinks its time to get a News out
[05:41] <mdke> jsgotangco, jjesse, what's new in kubuntu docs world (except for the desktop guide initiative)?
[05:42] <jsgotangco> i got nothing to say about kubuntu at the moment since i just finished the g-a-i manual and currently working on having an edubuntu quickguide
[05:42] <jsgotangco> the desktop guide will most likely be more feasible than the quickguide if it gets completed
[05:43] <jsgotangco> i did a very very minor change in u-m as well
[05:43] <robotgeek_zzz> jsgotangco: the status is now viewable online
[05:43] <robotgeek_zzz> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/status/kdg-report.html
[05:43] <mdke> jsgotangco, ok
[05:43] <jsgotangco> robotgeek_zzz, i'm in favor of pushing it instaed of the quickguide since it'll get redundant if we have both i think
[05:44] <robotgeek_zzz> jsgotangco: hmm, maybe not
[05:44] <jsgotangco> hmm that's still a lot of stuff to be done
[05:45] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: i have to correct the status tags :)
[05:45] <jsgotangco> we're supposed to have a meeting later but i doubt if i'll be awake at that time
[05:46] <jsgotangco> no one added an agenda item lol
[05:47] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: it is done for the most part, except for the help wanted sections
[05:48] <robotgeek> i'll fix the status tags right away
[05:49] <mdke> ok, i've added some things to the newsletter: please add any other things I've forgotten and I'll send it off later
[05:50] <mdke> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/News2?action=show
[05:51] <robotgeek> mdke: you missed out TOdd Lambert's heavy wiki editing
[05:51] <mdke> robotgeek, add it in
=== mdke briefly scans the mailing list, can't see much else
[05:56] <jjesse> jsgotangco: sorry i was out at lunch
[05:56] <jjesse> jsgotangco: the goal is to get the desktop guide done by release, robotgeek has been working away at it quite well
[05:57] <jsgotangco> cool
[05:57] <jsgotangco> i should get some sleep
[05:57] <jsgotangco> :/
[05:58] <jsgotangco> real life has been hard on me lately
[05:58] <jsgotangco> :)
[05:58] <jjesse> i know how that goes
[05:58] <jsgotangco> lol
[05:58] <jjesse> riddell would love to get the desktop guide published in time :) -- no pressure robotgeek
[05:58] <robotgeek> jjesse: other than the help wanted sections, the rest are ok
[05:59] <jjesse> cool i'll start reviewing it and add comments
[05:59] <robotgeek> jjesse: cool, thanks
[05:59] <jsgotangco> jjesse, you done in your book contribution?
[05:59] <robotgeek> brb
[06:00] <mdke> jjesse, any other kubuntu related news for the newsletter? 
[06:04] <jjesse> jsgotangco: i've done 2 drafts and have some things to change
[06:04] <jjesse> mdke: work on the adept guide has started again
[06:05] <jjesse> mdke: updating for all the changes that have taken place and working on getting it moved upstream to kde docs
[06:05] <mdke> cool, I'll add that, or will you?
[06:05] <jjesse> can you? i'm a little busy right now at work
[06:05] <mdke> sure thing
[06:06] <mdke> jjesse, did you upload it already? or is the old version still online?
[06:06] <jjesse> old version is still online, i'm basically rewriing the whole thing
[06:07] <mdke> ok
[06:08] <jjesse> there have been so many changes made, adept-notifier, adept-updater and adept-installer all have changed
[06:08] <robotgeek> jjesse: yeah, i was waiting to verify comments on that
[06:09] <robotgeek> err, my statement on that. i mentioned it in comments
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[06:15] <jjesse> ooo Kubuntu espresso :)  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEspresso
[06:18] <mdke> good news
[06:36] <jsgotangco> i'm most likely not to attend the meeting so its up to you guys
[06:36] <jsgotangco> i gotta sleep (almost 2am)
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[06:37] <mdke> well, there are no agenda items
[06:37] <robotgeek> mdke: i can add kdg, but i would not know what to discuss
[06:38] <mdke> well, no need, if there isn't anything to discuss
[06:39] <robotgeek> :)
[06:40] <robotgeek> mdke: do you know of a console yelp :P
[06:40] <mdke> no
[06:40] <mdke> the validate script helps to see if the xml is valid though
[06:40] <robotgeek> yeah, i did not want to vnc into my box
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[06:47] <robotgeek> hey LaserJock 
[06:48] <LaserJock> hi robotgeek 
[07:00] <jjesse> robotgeek: the adept guide is referenced in the dg is that correct?
[07:01] <robotgeek> jjesse: yup
[07:01] <jjesse> robotgeek: hopefully this weekend i'll have some time while i do a file server migration
[07:01] <robotgeek> i am planning to put khelp:// links to all applications mentioned
[07:01] <LaserJock> umm, do we have any agenda items for the meeting today?
[07:02] <robotgeek> jjesse: other than the update kubuntu section, i think the add-applications chapter is done
[07:06] <jjesse> robotgeek: awesome, its so nice to have more then one peroosn doiong kubntu docs :)
[07:06] <robotgeek> jjesse: yup :)
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[07:13] <LaserJock> hi theCore 
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[07:23] <theCore> LaserJock: hello LaserJock
[07:23] <theCore> I am up again!
[07:23] <LaserJock> great
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[07:44] <jjesse_meeting> robotgeek: any thoughts about posting on the kubuntu forums and asking for comments on the desktop guide like we did for ubuntu desktop guide?
[07:44] <robotgeek> jjesse_meeting: yes, that would be a good idea
[07:45] <robotgeek> jjesse: i think we should wait till the page is actually generated online
[07:45] <jjesse> agreed thought it was
[07:45] <robotgeek> jjesse: i think sometime in the last one hour
[07:45] <robotgeek> it did get generated :)
[07:46] <robotgeek> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide-web/C/index.html
[07:46] <robotgeek> jjesse: maybe after 24 hours, i am updating status tags and stuff
[07:47] <jjesse> ok
[07:47] <robotgeek> jjesse: is it a good idea to link to the applications help page?
[07:53] <CarlFK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu says "doing a server install of Ubuntu" - anyone have a URL for how to do that?  
[07:54] <jjesse> CarlFK: just type server at the install, check out #ubuntu for support or #ubuntu-server
[07:54] <CarlFK> I know how, but trying to answer some q;s
[07:54] <CarlFK> #ubuntu-server - didn't know aobut that -thanks
[08:37] <LaserJock> mdke: are we going to have a meeting today?
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[09:02] <Burgwork> woot! first drafts are off
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[09:18] <mdke> LaserJock, i don't think so
[09:18] <mdke> LaserJock, nothing on the agenda anyway
[09:18] <LaserJock> mdke: ok :(
[09:18] <mdke> LaserJock, did you have something?
[09:19] <LaserJock> not really, I just wondered if we could have some sort of status report
[09:20] <LaserJock> maybe I'll try to whip up an agenda item for next time, it is kinda short notice if I add something now
[09:20] <mdke> yeah, ok
[09:24] <robotgeek> mdke: do you want to me comment out Kubuntu User Guide in doc.ubuntu.com 
[09:24] <manicka> I believe naaman wants to discuss his wikicleanup proposal
[09:27] <LaserJock> manicka: is he going to be around?
[09:27] <manicka> he said last night that he would be
[09:28] <LaserJock> ok, so maybe we can have a quick meeting and maybe plan some items for next time?
[09:29] <manicka> sounds good :)
[09:30] <robotgeek> mdke: around?
[09:46] <robotgeek> manicka: ping
[09:46] <manicka> yo
[09:47] <robotgeek> http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/status/kdg-report.html 
[09:47] <robotgeek> manicka: feel free to review/ add stuff to "in progress"/"help wanted"
[09:47] <robotgeek> :)
[09:47] <manicka> will do :)
[09:49] <robotgeek> alrite, later then
[10:04] <LaserJock> Doc team meeting anyone?
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[10:15] <manicka> bustacap... meeting?
[10:43] <mdke> robotgeek, hi. No, I think you should have it in the menu
[10:44] <robotgeek> mdke: okay, i did not comment it
[10:44] <mdke> cool
[10:44] <robotgeek> mdke: #ubuntu-meeting
[10:44] <robotgeek> i just added desktop-guide to the list
[10:44] <mdke> i can't hang around for a meeting I'm afraid
[10:45] <mdke> especially a meeting without agenda items :)
[10:45] <robotgeek> mdke: okay, bustacap is here 
[10:45] <mdke> hi bustacap 
[10:45] <bustacap> hello mdke
[10:45] <mdke> nice to see you back here :)
[10:45] <bustacap> haha I just looked into this channel
[10:45] <bustacap> yeah..
[10:46] <mdke> fraid I can't hang around much
[10:46] <bustacap> join the meeting mdke
[10:46] <mdke> i've been neglecting my girlfriend because of an exam at work, so I'm going to go offline
[10:47] <mdke> sorry
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[12:03] <LaserJock> robotgeek: around?
[12:03] <robotgeek> yeah LaserJock