[12:00] <ryan> ahhhh
[12:00] <ryan> sorry
[12:00] <soundray> ^Ocean^: not usually, but you may have to unmute and bring the microphone level up with alsamixer
[12:00] <ryan> ok
[12:00] <richard_> someone can help me to use a fat32 partition since ubuntu?
[12:00] <^Ocean^> soundray, i did that...
[12:00] <^Ocean^> still no luck
[12:00] <ryan> it worked
[12:00] <redguy> Sicka: enable unvierse and multiverse
[12:00] <^Ocean^> set it to capture as well
[12:01] <_jason> ryan: now 'sudo dpkg -i Frost<tab>', and <tab> means press the tab key (watch the magic)
[12:01] <redguy> Sicka: nothing more should be necessary
[12:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell richard_ about vfat
[12:01] <Sicka> redguy: That was done quite a while ago, as I've been listening to mp3's and playing dvd's for a while now
[12:01] <ryan> ok its on there now
[12:01] <RollyW> apache is telling me that no listening sockets are available, how do i change the port or w.e?
[12:01] <Sicka> redguy: The only ones left disabled are backports
[12:01] <soundray> ^Ocean^: sometimes stopping esd helps (System-Prefs-Sound, uncheck sound server startup)
[12:01] <_jason> ryan: press enter
[12:02] <redguy> Sicka: so I can presume that you have libdecss installed and you can read encrypted dvds?
[12:02] <ryan> is it my password?
[12:02] <_jason> ryan: yep
[12:02] <ryan> its not showing up
[12:02] <_jason> ryan: that's ok, jsut type it
[12:02] <ryan> got it
[12:02] <ryan> YAY
[12:03] <ryan> i think its working
[12:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell ryan about cli
[12:03] <ryan> one moment
[12:03] <redguy> ubotu: tell ryan about enter
[12:03] <_jason> ryan: make sure you read ubotu's link so that you can learn all about the terminal
[12:03] <Morfosomo> ok cpu usage is not going under 10% and my memory is at 40% out of 512 megs i know this aint supossed to be that way
[12:03] <Sicka> redguy: I'm not familiar with that package, libdecss, I just tried to install it but apt-get couldn't find the package
[12:03] <Morfosomo> any ideas?
[12:03] <ryan> sorry redguy>
[12:03] <soundray> Morfosomo: no, that's all fine.
[12:04] <ryan> ok.
[12:04] <soundray> Morfosomo: Linux uses memory for buffers and such instead of letting it lie around idle.
[12:04] <ryan> i really apreciate it jason.
[12:04] <jimmyxx> hi can anyone help me with my font problem - i installed loads of ttf files in my usr/share/fonts and now everything is all messed up - most websites use really wierd fonts - everything is just messed up!
[12:04] <nitrosport_5> azlright i downloaded and make'ed the bzflagcvs so how can i get it to install so i can play it
[12:04] <redguy> Sicka: run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[12:04] <redguy> Sicka: with sudo
[12:04] <Morfosomo> and its loaded some 12 meg into virtual mem when it still got ram available
[12:04] <milestone> hi all
[12:05] <_jason> ryan: np, but it's a good idea now to read those tutorials and understand this stuff on your own
[12:05] <soundray> Morfosomo: if applications need it, Linux hands it out smartly.
[12:05] <milestone> i accidentally removed some files from /var/lib/dpkg/info
[12:05] <ryan> Ill try to read it i just get lost in the jargon.
[12:05] <redguy> Sicka: dvdrecord is in dvdrtools package
[12:05] <milestone> is there  a way to restore them i.e. by re-installing the package?
[12:05] <soundray> Morfosomo: that's nothing to worry about either.
[12:05] <IdleOne> ryan:  it'll get easier ()
[12:05] <Morfosomo> ok,. then why is the stream beeing chopped?
[12:05] <jimmyxx> can anyone help me with my font problem?
[12:05] <ryan> could it possibly get harder?
[12:05] <ryan> lol?
[12:05] <soundray> Morfosomo: what stream?
[12:06] <Kr4t05> Is anyone else having problems with Doom 3?
[12:06] <redguy> Sicka: imagemagick should be in the imagemagick package
[12:06] <ohoel> aren't the dapper  flights mirrored anywhere?
[12:06] <Sicka> redguy: Okay I just installed those two
[12:06] <ryan> i have the problem that my moms comp only has 256 ram so it wont play it.
[12:06] <Morfosomo> sound streams,. internet radio and such,. tried various "stations" same results,. use to be fine till today
[12:06] <soundray> Kr4t05: I do actually: it gives me nightmares ;)
[12:06] <duck> anyone know how to strip mirc colors in xchat 2.6.0 (that comes with breezy)? the option seems to be displaced :S
[12:06] <Wibble-> hey... does anyone know how I can get the ppp_mppe module for 2.6.12 on ubuntu, or how to check if it is compiled into the default kernel?
[12:06] <ryan> but i doubt that that is what you were asking.
[12:06] <Sicka> redguy: ok and imagemagick is there now
[12:06] <Kr4t05> soundray: I meant technical issues. :P
[12:06] <redguy> Sicka: what else were you missing?
[12:07] <adub> i need the madwifi atheros chipset drivers if anyone can help me out i think the download is down from their site cant find it anywhere else on the web
[12:07] <soundray> Morfosomo: that'll be a network throughput issue.
[12:07] <jimmyxx> can anyone help me with my problem, i installed like 100 fonts and now all the websites use really wierd fonts - some applications do too?! please help!
[12:07] <Sicka> redguy: Checking one more time...
[12:07] <soundray> Kr4t05: oh, those have all gone since I stopped playing it.
[12:07] <richard_> bimberi: how can i write over a fat32 partition?
[12:07] <_jason> jimmyxx: they probably use times new roman, arial, and verdana
[12:07] <soundray> Kr4t05: sorry, I'm not being very helpful here, I know.
[12:07] <Morfosomo> some something tween their server and my isp went b0rk?
[12:07] <jimmyxx> _jason - i have installed those though - using crossover office
[12:08] <jimmyxx> do i need to actually put the ttf files in there too?
[12:08] <Morfosomo> thing is i ve tried various stations,. i dont think they are all in the same network areas
[12:08] <soundray> Morfosomo: either that, or your router is throttling, or you have a download happening in parallel.
[12:08] <Kr4t05> soundray: Well, when I try to start it, I get a load of error messages in the terminal. You think you could help?
[12:08] <navarone> jimmyxx, with the website fonts you can simply specify what fonts to use to display sites in your web browser's preferences
[12:08] <bimberi> richard_: you can format it using mkfs - 'man mkfs'
[12:08] <_jason> jimmyxx: well I'm just saying that those are probably the ``weird fonts'' since a default install will use freesans iirc
[12:08] <Sicka> redguy: subtitle2pgm...
[12:08] <Morfosomo> no downloads,. checked that,. and i used to be hable to stream three diferent stations across my lan lossless
[12:09] <jimmyxx> _jason: how can i reverse what i've done?
[12:09] <redguy> Sicka: in that time I will tell you how you can look for certain files: first of all there's apt-cache. You can search package names and descriptions with apt-cache search what_to_search_for. The second usefull tool is apt-file.
[12:09] <soundray> Kr4t05: I may or I may not. Put them up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org in any case. Someone might know what to do.
[12:09] <phiber_optic> how can I compile a c++ program?
[12:09] <majd> what's a good folder to install all my programs to?
[12:09] <soundray> Morfosomo: what player are you using?
[12:09] <richard_> bimberi: i share this partition with windows, for that reason i can't change the file system?
[12:09] <Sicka> redguy: how do I use it?
[12:09] <_jason> jimmyxx: as navarone suggested you can specify what fonts to use in programs' settings.  You can also just uninstall the fonts
[12:09] <redguy> Sicka: apt-file allows you to search the contents of the packages. You most propably have to install it, after that you have to do apt-file update.
[12:10] <jetscreamer> you share what with what?
[12:10] <bimberi> richard_: mkdosfs   :)
[12:10] <jetscreamer> i think the terminology is a little off.. maybe hd
[12:10] <Morfosomo> now it chockes on one stream
[12:10] <redguy> Sicka: when you have it updated (it downloads different files than apt-get) you can search packages with apt-file search what_to_search_for
[12:10] <Morfosomo> tried xmms and bmp(variant)
[12:10] <yaman> hi every one can any one help me and tell me how to change the startup menu because i installed the ubunto and i am new on linux using so i want to make the windowsxp first in the startup menu
[12:10] <navarone> richard are you trying to install ubuntu on a partition that is fat32?
[12:10] <redguy> Sicka: subtitle2pgm is in subtitleripper
[12:11] <Sicka> redguy: thanks i'll try it out
[12:11] <jimmyxx> hey _jason i just checked - firefox is set to use sans?
[12:11] <Sicka> redguy: Cool subtitleripper I'm also missing dvdxchap...
[12:11] <jimmyxx> the application looks fine - the websites look terrible?
[12:11] <Morfosomo> all was fine,. till these days,.. it aint my connect,. it happens with all stations,. and my hardware is a wee bit acting up
[12:11] <nitrosport_5> ok i downloaded and compiled the cvs of bzflag, how can i install it to use it? i am a total N00b!
[12:11] <ryan> ok now frostwire is there but it wont run
[12:11] <jetscreamer> yaman: enable savedefault in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:11] <[Leo] > 'night
[12:11] <Kr4t05> soundray: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643
[12:11] <yaman> thenx
[12:12] <yaman> thank you y very much
[12:12] <yaman> thanx
[12:12] <jetscreamer> np
[12:12] <majd> what's a good folder to install all my programs to?
[12:12] <soundray> Morfosomo: I see, so your setup hasn't changed, but the bmp/xmms behavior has. Correct?
[12:12] <ryan> says something about upgrading the java something or other
[12:12] <Kr4t05> majd: /opt/ is okay.
[12:12] <Morfosomo> correct
[12:12] <redguy> Sicka: ogmtools
[12:12] <jetscreamer> that manilla folder you got at officemax should work...
[12:12] <majd> Kr4t05, where's that at?
[12:12] <redguy> Sicka: install apt-file and you'll find all necessary packages in no-time
[12:12] <Morfosomo> well only a minor update to iirsc client(automatic suggstion, i followed it)
[12:12] <soundray> majd, your question doesn't make very much sense in ubuntu. Are you talking about programs you've written?
[12:13] <ryan> can i download the java files in the repos
[12:13] <jetscreamer> /usr/local is common
[12:13] <majd> soundray, no, just programs off the internet
[12:13] <Kr4t05> majd: You could also put them in your home folder if you remember not to delete them.
[12:13] <nitrosport_5> ok i downloaded and compiled the cvs of bzflag, how can i install it to use it? i am a total N00b
[12:13] <jetscreamer> nitrosport_5: why didn't you just install it
[12:13] <majd> Kr4t05, how else would i uninstall?
[12:13] <Wibble-> How come I have kernel image 2.6.12 yet there is only kernel source 2.6.11 in apt?
[12:13] <IdleOne> !tell ryan  about java
[12:13] <jetscreamer> via apt-get
[12:13] <Sicka> redguy: thanks it's installed I'll try everything and come back if it doesn't work
[12:13] <soundray> majd: first, try to find the software you need in the ubuntu repositories. They'll give you the least trouble.
[12:13] <redguy> Sicka: cool
[12:13] <nitrosport_5> cause i wanted the cvs, so what do i do to use it
[12:14] <Kr4t05> majd: dpkg -r <app name> is the proper way to uninstall, last I knew.
[12:14] <navarone> jimmyxx, in firefox settings click advanced next to fonts and uncheck the "let websites use...yada yada" box...see if that helps any
[12:14] <soundray> majd: if you do have to get something that isn't an ubuntu package, the best base directory to put it in is /usr/local/
[12:14] <majd> soundray, i'm installing Zend studio
[12:14] <Sicka> redguy: here's the thing though, everything that I do have installed, it's telling me that it's still missing!
[12:14] <Morfosomo> ok cpu and mem usage are gradually spiking
[12:14] <Sicka> redguy: for all I know I have it all
[12:14] <bimberi> Wibble-: probably the 'main' repository isn't enabled, check your sources.list or pastebin it to give us a look
[12:14] <majd> it's not in the repos..but you answered my question...thanks
[12:14] <redguy> Sicka: restarted dvdrip?
[12:15] <Sicka> redguy: yep
[12:15] <Sicka> redguy: maybe I need to log out?
[12:15] <redguy> Sicka: hrm...
[12:15] <jetscreamer> see also dpkg --purge
[12:15] <Wibble-> bimberi, it is enabled...
[12:15] <jetscreamer> dvdrip makes 0 byte files
[12:15] <Sicka> redguy: and does it make any difference that I'm using the 64 edition?
[12:15] <nitrosport_5> ok i downloaded and compiled the cvs of bzflag, how can i install it to use it? i am a total N00b
[12:16] <jetscreamer> let me know if it works for you
[12:16] <soundray> Morfosomo: "gradually spiking" is an oxymoron ;)
[12:16] <redguy> Sicka: hmm not sure, might
[12:16] <Morfosomo> i noticed, was hoping you wouldnt :P
[12:17] <dennis_> what is a HO.sh file?
[12:17] <Morfosomo> rising,..
[12:17] <bimberi> Wibble-: aha, it's in main in breezy-security, is that enabled?
[12:17] <Sicka> redguy: Oh, but I just remembered a tip that my buddy gave me. He said that DVDShrink works just fine in Wine
[12:17] <Sicka> redguy: Maybe I'll check that out
[12:17] <soundray> Morfosomo: have you tried the Microsoft method of system fine tuning?
[12:17] <nitrosport_5> ok i downloaded and compiled the cvs of bzflag, how can i install it to use it? i am a total N00b
[12:17] <redguy> Sicka: hrm can you run wine in 64?
[12:17] <Kr4t05> Is there any sort of command that cleans up your filesystem. Like Disk Cleanup in WinXP?
[12:18] <jetscreamer> dennis_: open it up in a text editor and see... .sh is a script
[12:18] <navarone> soundray, you mean reinstall?
[12:18] <Sicka> redguy: guess I'll find out in a few minutes
[12:18] <majd> soundray, i'm installing zend through it's installer (.bin), it tells me i don't have premissions to /usr/local/    do i need to run it differently?
[12:18] <dennis_> but i cant find it
[12:18] <Extreme_Unction> kr4t05: Ever get doom running?
[12:18] <redguy> Sicka: well, when I install something that dvdrip wants, it can see it after it's installed
[12:18] <Morfosomo> i hate to slap the penguin but i did reset yes
[12:18] <jetscreamer> nitrosport_5: usually just make install
[12:18] <soundray> navarone: no, first line is reboot ;)
[12:18] <Kr4t05> Extreme_Unction: No. :/
[12:18] <soundray> majd, call the installer with sudo
[12:18] <nitrosport_5> i tried that bust i cant find where a shortcut to the program is
[12:18] <redguy> Sicka: do you have a 32 chroot or something?
[12:18] <Kr4t05> Extreme_Unction: You wanna look at my pastebin?
[12:18] <redguy> Sicka: 32 bit
[12:18] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: did you try the sdl package with the -alsa on it
[12:18] <Extreme_Unction> Nope :D
[12:18] <Extreme_Unction> I gotta head out
[12:19] <Sicka> redguy: sorry i'm not familiar with chroot
[12:19] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: ?
[12:19] <dennis_> were can i find HO.sh?
[12:19] <saniX> majd, sudo ./program
[12:19] <majd> soundray, sudo ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin
[12:19] <majd>  ?
[12:19] <jetscreamer> did ... you... try ... to ... install... the... sdl package... with the -alsa not -all or whatever
[12:19] <Kr4t05> Extreme_Unction: Now, I'm having problems with Doom3.
[12:19] <soundray> majd: should work.
[12:19] <suryam> ew doom3
[12:19] <saniX> majd, sudo ./ZendStudio-5_1_0.bin
[12:19] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: I have no clue.
[12:19] <redguy> Sicka: well, I'm not too familliar with 64 bit ubuntu...
[12:20] <jetscreamer> i pasted the botspam for you yesterday...
[12:20] <Sicka> redguy: how do i find out if I have 32 bit chroot?
[12:20] <nitrosport_5> jetscreamer: make install didnt work
[12:20] <Morfosomo> is there a way i can "flush" the swap or find out which apps data is stored there?
[12:20] <Morfosomo> is got like 12 meg in it
[12:20] <majd> saniX, soundray, it worked with the ./ thank you very much
[12:20] <jetscreamer> !info libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[12:20] <ubotu> libsdl1.2debian-alsa: (Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA options)), section libs, is extra. Version: 1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-5.3ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 175 kB, Installed size: 456 kB
[12:20] <mjr> Morfosomo, sudo swapoff -a ; sudo swapon -a
[12:20] <devios> !uname -a
[12:20] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, devios
[12:20] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: try to install that one and see if it works
[12:20] <saniX> majd, cool job ;p
[12:20] <mjr> Morfosomo, shouldn't be a reason to do that, though
[12:21] <redguy> !tell Sicka about chroot
[12:21] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: that's how to fix q4, so should work for d3
[12:21] <Morfosomo> am just wild guessing that maybe part of the player program is there causing the stalls
[12:21] <devios> hey all - I dual boot and haven't used my ubuntu install in ages...  I can't get synaptec working...
[12:21] <redguy> Sicka: but I doubt that you have it
[12:21] <colm> devios, try command line - sudo apt-get update
[12:21] <lampshade> devios, I would try sudo apt-get update
[12:21] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: apt-ing
[12:22] <jetscreamer> nitrosport_5: might be some howto on the bzflag site, no idea
[12:22] <lampshade> update your machines info on stuff
[12:22] <soundray> Kr4t05: have you got 3d acceleration?
[12:22] <Kr4t05> soundray: As far as I knew.
[12:22] <nitrosport_5> hmm, ill just get the install package
[12:22] <lampshade> Does glxgears print out fps for you people?  I thought it used to, but mine doesn't now, was that something that was changed?
[12:22] <redguy> Sicka: hmm, hoary instructions again...
[12:22] <bimberi> ubotu tell lampshade about glxgears
[12:22] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: Still not working.
[12:22] <jetscreamer> glxgears does here
[12:23] <redguy> Sicka: well, it seems that I can't deal with your problem :/
[12:23] <Sicka> redguy: Lots of hoary instructions not updated...
[12:23] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9643 <<-- error output.
[12:23] <Sicka> redguy: well I appreciate the effort
[12:23] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: you will probably still need that file and not the one it replaced, so i'd leave it installed if it was me
[12:23] <nitrosport_5> what is the command to see if ubuntu has the 3d drivers for my video card
[12:23] <Morfosomo> well that wasent it
[12:24] <Morfosomo> still getting chopped sound from any station i choose
[12:24] <Kr4t05> soundray, jetsreamer: Let me try reinstalling my drivers.
[12:24] <jetscreamer> ah
[12:24] <dennis_> HO.sh
[12:24] <nitrosport_5> ubotu tell nitrosport_5 about glxgears
[12:24] <soundray> Kr4t05: good idea.
[12:25] <bimberi> nitrosport_5: glxinfo | grep rendering   (look for 'Yes')
[12:25] <dennis_> how do i change from GNU libgcj to sun?
[12:25] <alanon> when my install is finished and X is about to start (i think) the computer halts.. help?
[12:25] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: what xorg vid driver. nv? nvidia-glx? nvidia-binary? you'll 'probably' find that the nvidia-binary functions and the others don't. not sure, i do know this is how it is for some required gl headers when you compile radiant.
[12:25] <devios> I get a bunch of "Failed to fetch" errors when I do apt-get update... how do I get the latest repositories file?  how do I even figure out which ubuntu release I am running?
[12:25] <alanon> I've tried different disks, but anyway it halts after the first reboot..
[12:25] <dyrne> anyone currently using xfce in dapper? hows it working?
[12:25] <bimberi> devios: lsb_release -a
[12:25] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: and you have mesa-indirect listed...
[12:26] <lee> hello all.  thunderbird has suddenly stopped working -- I haven't upgraded it or the system lately, it just suddenly died whilst I was using it and now it refuses to start giving this error: DOUBLE-CLICK: 400 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: line 159: 13594 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"} ... anybody know how to fix it?
[12:26] <bimberi> ubotu tell devios about repos
[12:26] <devios> Description:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)
[12:26] <jimmyxx> cheers navarone - i've fixed it, a mate just gave me arial.tff - threw it in the directory with the other odd fonts and its worked a treat!
[12:26] <devios> !easysource
[12:26] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:27] <navarone> okie jimmyxx
[12:27] <bimberi> devios: ah, that factoid from ubotu won't be much use (has sample lists for breezy and dapper)
[12:27] <bimberi> devios: although if you change breezy to hoary in the breezy one that would be standard list
[12:28] <Morfosomo> erm,. though about one of em replies,.. whats the way to "de throttle" a router? a l windoz?
[12:29] <saniX> hello lee ;p
[12:29] <bimberi> devios: or use source-o-matic :)
[12:30] <lee> hello saniX
[12:30] <lee> anybody have idea idea why thunderbird would just stop working like that?
[12:30] <AngryElf> is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between desktops?
[12:30] <phiber_optic> AngryElf, ctrl alt arrows
[12:30] <idefix_> can you open odt-files with MS word?
[12:31] <AngryElf> thanx
[12:31] <_jason> idefix_: no
[12:31] <Morfosomo> hmmm,. got another hint,.. etherape is telling me it dosent find a suitable interface
[12:31] <phiber_optic> AngryElf, thats too change workspaces
[12:31] <lee> AngryElf: if you go to System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts, you can set your own up
[12:31] <colm> AngryElf, system>prefs>keyboard shortcuts
[12:31] <pcarnie> Please can anybody help. I spoke to someone earlier regarding an issue with screen resolution in Gnome/X. I have sort of resolved the issue by using the VESA driver. If i try to use the ATI or Radeon driver I cannot use 1280x1024. Has anybody else had this problem
[12:32] <Kr4t05> !wireless
[12:32] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:32] <holobyted> hey all.. should I need to configure anything to enable DVI output on my graphics card?
[12:33] <ompaul> idefix_, no it is not advanced enough, and it is the same reason MS are not getting work in some states these days
[12:34] <idefix_> when I try to save as word 97/2000/XP OpenOffice Writer crashes :-(
[12:35] <ompaul> idefix_, try to save it with what?
[12:35] <idefix_> with OpenOffice, but the second attempt succeeded I think
[12:35] <ompaul> idefix_, version?
[12:36] <nitrosport_5> why when i try to open a .rpm it says file type not supported?
[12:36] <devios> holy crap that  source-o-matic thing is great!
[12:36] <_jason> nitrosport_5: because it's not supported
[12:36] <idefix_> OpenOffice.org 1.9.129
[12:36] <devios> thanks for your help, all...
[12:36] <_jason> nitrosport_5: there are ways to use it, but it is preferred that you search the repos first
[12:36] <nitrosport_5> is there somethin i can do to open that file?
[12:36] <_jason> nitrosport_5: what is it?
[12:36] <nitrosport_5> xorg and xfree86
[12:37] <ryan> hey does anyone have an opinion of which is the best media player for ubuntu
[12:37] <_jason> ryan: mplayer imo
[12:37] <robertj> ryan: yes, they do
[12:38] <saniX> pcarnie, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:38] <ryan> mplayer
[12:38] <_jason> nitrosport_5: hrmm, why do you need an rpm for that?
[12:38] <ryan> repos?
[12:38] <nitrosport_5> jason: xorg and xfree86 packages
[12:38] <nitrosport_5> jason i downloaded them to go with ati gfx driver
[12:38] <ompaul> nitrosport_5, that is not how Ubuntu works, it has its own packages
[12:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell nitrosport_5 about ati
[12:39] <Morfosomo> is it normal to have the transfer rate fluctuate "heavily"? or is this like some "internet wide" issue?
[12:39] <nitrosport_5> so how can i get the raedon 9550 driver?
[12:39] <pcarnie> saniX, my xorg.conf is ok, it used to work with the ATI driver but for some reason it has stopped. In the screen res selector I just get the option 1024x768 the refresh says -25873Hz
[12:39] <ompaul> nitrosport_5, read the message the bot sent you
[12:40] <nitrosport_5> ok
[12:40] <ompaul> pcarnie, you using 5.10?
[12:40] <spine> can some one help me out with this little problem i have, i want my second monitor to blank out when i run fullscreen 3d apps, i have a radeon 9600XT with the latest propietary drivers......PLZ!
[12:40] <spine> om going crazzy
[12:40] <Morfosomo> geez this choped sound is getting me real ma
[12:40] <Morfosomo> +d
[12:40] <spine> 3d apps mess with my desktopgamma
[12:40] <shiv> where do i get libdvdcss2 from?
[12:41] <spine> so it looks real annoying
[12:41] <pcarnie> no 6.04 but I had the provlem originally with 5.10.  Thought i'd try 6.04 to see if it was any better
[12:41] <xerophyte> could somebody help me .. i have intel xeon processor, the old 2.6.11 kernel i had the 2 processor when i do cat /proc/cpuinfo but i used the same config and compiled the 2.6.15.5 .. but its keep giving me only one processor and i have enabled the smp and HT on the configuration .. does anybody know what am i missing
[12:41] <ompaul> spine, when someone knows something they will talk
[12:42] <chuckyp> xerophyte, nope you just need the smp kernel and it should work.
[12:42] <spine> ompaul, thx
[12:42] <saniX> pcarnie, try sudo gnome-display-properties &
[12:42] <ompaul> pcarnie, I offer you #ubuntu+1 and >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< might help get some sanity in the interim
[12:43] <pcarnie> saniX, OK
[12:43] <Kr4t05> Ok
[12:43] <canllaith> Heya, if I want to grab all packages required to compile gnome applications (so gtk & gnome -dev packages) is there a simple way of grabbing them all ?
[12:43] <shiv> where do i get libdvdcss2 from?
[12:43] <Morfosomo> is there a site for ubuntu "performance tunning" or something akin?
[12:43] <shiv> which repo?
[12:43] <IdleOne> spine Im am not certain but I believe you can set apps to only use one monitor...instead of trying to get the monitor to blank when using the app tell the app to only use 1 monitor
[12:43] <Kr4t05> soundray, jetscreamer: Installing the drivers worked.
[12:43] <xerophyte> chuckyp, i have the smp kernel but only getting one cpu but if i boot with old kernle i get 2 cpu
[12:43] <ompaul> spine, I can't answer for propirtary drivers but that >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< might help you get back to base and you can start again,
[12:43] <pcarnie> saniX, what should that do
[12:44] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: yay i'm not a moron :)
[12:44] <chuckyp> xerophyte, hrmm.... dunno there. Should be working.
[12:44] <saniX> change your display
[12:44] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer, soundray: But, my audio sounds really bad. ><
[12:44] <pcarnie> ompaul, tried that already but no joy, smae result
[12:44] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer, soundray: Like, metallic buzzing.
[12:44] <IdleOne> shiv:  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 ( if that is the package name ) orelse you need to find the package that is in
[12:44] <idefix_> I try to copy a file to my floppy disk and when I type ls at /media/floppy I get ?      ?.??^  ??^?????  ??.??  ?????/?  ?.???  ??.0?  d?`?d?  i       ?.p?  r
[12:44] <idefix_> ?      ?.??^  ???/?.?   ?      ?.?      ???    1.l    h?.??   l?.??  ?.p    w.d
[12:44] <idefix_> ?.??^  ??.\?  ??.??     ??.?   ?.???    ?.?    *.?a!  h?3p    ?.m    p?.?
[12:45] <shiv> how do I find that?
[12:45] <lampshade> IdleOne, I think that package was removed from the Repos
[12:45] <lampshade> or something
[12:45] <idefix_> sorry for the flooding
[12:45] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: alsa is the default. yesterday, i noticed you installing the sdl-oss package, which is why i remember your dilema
[12:45] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell idefix_ about pastebin
[12:45] <chuckyp> ubotu, tell idefix_ about paste
[12:45] <ompaul> idefix_, don't paste again thanks
[12:45] <IdleOne> lampshade:  not certain
[12:45] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: the -oss one is probably gone now though.. (not positive)
[12:45] <dejx> !dejx paste
[12:45] <ubotu> dejx: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:46] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: It still sounds icky.
[12:46] <IdleOne> !info libdvdcss2
[12:46] <idefix_> but.. is my floppy not formatted right?
[12:46] <Dae__> Hi, i would like to ask you something, i started my ubuntu and i got the warning for updates, i opened it and i got the warning message : It is not possible to upgrade all packages. Does that mean that 6.04 is out? and should i do that upgrade?
[12:46] <danielnewbie> I'm a bit embarrassed to ask this, but what command(s) do I use to view the contents of a floppy disk?
[12:46] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: you might check that, if it is or not installed. also, what sound card? (i mostly only know about sblive though)
[12:46] <shiv> whichprgram will install .db on right clicking??
[12:46] <robertj> daniel: do you want to use the command line or would you prefer the UGI/
[12:46] <Kr4t05> Dae__: No. Dapper isn't out until... next month?
[12:46] <robertj> err GUI
[12:47] <stpere> Dae__, 6.04 will get out in 2006/04
[12:47] <chuckyp> danielnewbie, ls  = list comparible to dir in dos
[12:47] <shiv> which program will install .deb on right clicking??
[12:47] <danielnewbie> ok
[12:47] <chuckyp> shiv, dpkg
[12:47] <jetscreamer> shiv: none by default that i know of
[12:47] <robertj> shiv: not one in Breezy, only in dapper AFAIK
[12:47] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: AC'97 VIA
[12:47] <IdleOne> shiv: in terminal type dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:47] <danielnewbie> I've tried accessing the floppy through Xfce, but I couldn't find it
[12:47] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: no idea :(
[12:47] <dejx> directory1
[12:47] <dejx> ups
[12:47] <dejx> http://pastebin.com/581124
[12:47] <Dae__> yes but what are all this upgrades, it tells me to do apt-get dist-upgrade, and that will install sid
[12:48] <jetscreamer> sid? there is no ubuntu sid
[12:48] <idefix_> do you have to format floppy's for use in linux?
[12:48] <pcarnie> ompaul, can I send you my xorg.conf??
[12:48] <jetscreamer> idefix_: if they are not formatted yes
[12:48] <Dae__> i mean unstable
[12:48] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: lspci says: 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[12:48] <idefix_> are linux formatted floppy's usable in windows?
[12:48] <dejx> http://pastebin.com/581124
[12:49] <Kr4t05> idefix_: if they're formatted with FAT
[12:49] <mjr> idefix_, yes, if they contain a filesystem that Windows supports (notably FAT)
[12:49] <ompaul> pcarnie, I would not be of much use with it
[12:49] <funkyHat> Dae__, apt-get dist-upgrade won't upgrade you to a different version of the OS unless you change your repositories first
[12:49] <pcarnie> ompaul, not to worry
[12:49] <shiv> whats gdeb? will that do it?
[12:49] <danielnewbie> so, how do you see the floppy? I've tried ls, but I cant find it
[12:49] <ubunturox> how do i setup a https server in apache2 with ubuntu ?
[12:49] <Dae__> funkyHat so i should apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:49] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: only things i know of to check are: 1. is genrtc or rtc (modules) loaded. alsa like rtc not genrtc. 2.(wait for it)
[12:50] <funkyHat> Dae__, all dist-urgrade does is smartly update packages with dependencies (like synaptic does).
[12:50] <funkyHat> Dae__, yes
[12:50] <Dae__> shouldn't i?
[12:50] <IdleOne> shiv:  why not try dpkg -i filename.deb ..it might just work
[12:50] <idefix_> how do I format at the BASH shell?
[12:50] <Kr4t05> danielnewbie: sudo mount /dev/fd0
[12:50] <idefix_> the format command doesn't exist
[12:50] <danielnewbie> mount: can't find floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:50] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: 2. make sure snd-pcm-oss ; modprobe snd-seq-oss  are also loaded
[12:50] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: You're losing me.
[12:50] <shiv> hmm thanks let me do it
[12:50] <Dae__> funkyHat ok thx for help, good night
[12:50] <Kaan-> Is there any FAQ site based on the questions in this channel?
[12:50] <jetscreamer> sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /place/to/mount/the/floppy
[12:50] <danielnewbie> thanks
[12:50] <idefix_> don't I have to use -t fvat arguments?
[12:51] <IdleOne> Kaan-:  wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <dyrne> idefix_: mkfs.vfat or whatever
[12:51] <ubunturox> how do i setup a https server in apache2 with ubuntu ?
[12:51] <Kr4t05> lampshade: Ow...
[12:51] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: those are all kernel-modules, modprobe loads em. if it helps, you need them listed in /etc/modules so they load on_boot
[12:51] <lampshade> I admit I actually laughed out loud
[12:51] <esac> what do i install to get wins support ?
[12:51] <Kr4t05> lampshade: Glad to know that my humor is apprieciated. ;P
[12:52] <jetscreamer> mkfs.msdos maybe
[12:52] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: Wow.
[12:52] <jetscreamer> ls /sbin |grep -i mkfs
[12:52] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: I really didn't want to do that much.
[12:52] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: modconf will do both for you at the same time. it's in universe iirc
[12:53] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: Will apt get it?
[12:53] <devios> isn't vmware free now?
[12:53] <ozee> where to get working doom ?
[12:53] <KakiPukul> vmware, isn't FREE at ALL
[12:53] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: Nevermind.
[12:53] <idefix_> when you switch your floppy do you have to umount and remount?
[12:53] <dyrne> devios: vmplayer is free but not free free
[12:54] <esac> how can i permanently change the color of my bash prompt ?
[12:54] <Hi^gh^LIfe> hey can someone help me ge the sound working on my  nforce410 board?
[12:54] <Morfosomo> KakiPukul, i hate to discent,. theres a downloadable free version now
[12:54] <devios> i understand that it's not 'free'
[12:54] <Kr4t05> !sound
[12:54] <ubotu> I heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:54] <ozee> anyone!!
[12:54] <KakiPukul> well, the term FREE in Linux World, really means something else, FREEDOM :)
[12:54] <devios> but I also am excited to be able to run a winxp desktop inside of ubuntu instead of having winxp be my primary os
[12:54] <IdleOne> ozee:  this isnt a warez channel
[12:54] <funkyHat> KakiPukul, you're wrong. VMware Server is free as in free (not as in freedom though ;))
[12:54] <shiv> ahha I found the repo http://www.videolan.org/doc/vlc-user-guide/en/ch03.html
[12:54] <KakiPukul> free to download without charge for VMWare, yes :)
[12:55] <GTX> How do I run a contrab which will go every 5minutes.
[12:55] <IdleOne> shiv:  that isnt an ubuntu repos afaik
[12:55] <KakiPukul> yes, ozee?
[12:55] <chuckyp> GTX, 5 * * * I believe
[12:55] <Seveas> nope
[12:55] <KakiPukul> free to download without charge for VMWare, yes :) << well I am not wrong :)
[12:55] <Seveas> GTX, */5 * * * *
[12:55] <_jason> Seveas: nope
[12:55] <shiv> I know but I just added it to the repo list and was able to install libdvdccs2
[12:56] <Seveas> _jason, enlighten me
[12:56] <ozee> KakiPukul: just need working doom...
[12:56] <_jason> */12 ?
[12:56] <Seveas> no
[12:56] <GTX> Seveas, no space before the first * ?
[12:56] <KakiPukul> doom, the game?
[12:56] <Kr4t05> ozee: Legacy or Doom 3?
[12:56] <ozee> KakiPukul: downloaded alot non works
[12:56] <ozee> ues
[12:56] <KakiPukul> I haven't install any Doom yet...
[12:56] <ozee> no just the classic one
[12:56] <devios> can someone please explain to me why dns resolution is so much slower in ubuntu than in winxp on the same system on the same network?  Telling me how to fix it may placate me enough to not be annoyed by this fact anymore...  BTW, I have the same problem with Fedora
[12:56] <mikebot> is there a gnome version of media player classic?
[12:56] <KakiPukul> neither I have interest in Doom, the game
[12:56] <_jason> Seveas: ok given I only read a crontab once I will go with seveas' way
[12:56] <ozee> me on breazy 5.10
[12:57] <mikebot> or is there any video player better than mplayer?
[12:57] <Kr4t05> ozee: http://legacy.doom.org
[12:57] <Seveas> _jason, the / means step, not divide by
[12:57] <esac> devios what are your dns servers set to ? cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:57] <Kr4t05> I think...
[12:57] <Hi^gh^LIfe> lspci
[12:57] <Seveas> _jason, man 5 crontab ;)
[12:57] <devios> esac, same as they are in windows
[12:57] <Kr4t05> !doomlegacy
[12:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Kr4t05
[12:57] <ozee> Jr4t05: is that free
[12:57] <ozee> ?
[12:57] <Kr4t05> drat
[12:57] <_jason> Seveas: already reading :)
[12:57] <Kr4t05> Doom Legacy is free.
[12:57] <Kr4t05> If I could only find the page.
[12:57] <KakiPukul> ozee: : I think it is free for download
[12:58] <chuckyp> GTX, just man crontab they have examples in there as well as what each space does.
[12:58] <holobyted> anyone know how to activate DVI output for console? X likes my DVI.. console doesn't tho
[12:58] <esac> devios: what does the hosts: line say in /etc/nsswitch.conf ?
[12:58] <GTX> and how do I sync time
[12:58] <Seveas> _jason, line 39
[12:58] <GTX> on server
[12:58] <Kr4t05> ozee: http://legacy.newdoom.com/
[12:58] <KakiPukul> holobyted: : what card do you use?
[12:58] <ozee> will it work on breazy 5.10 with no libn problems?
[12:58] <holobyted> GeForce FX 5900
[12:58] <devios> hosts:          files dns
[12:58] <devios> networks:       files
[12:58] <_jason> Seveas: yep you're right
[12:58] <chuckyp> GTX, ntpdate
[12:58] <Seveas> _jason, I know ;)
[12:59] <KakiPukul> if you use ATi, i think you can do it manually with that fglrx driver...
[12:59] <mikebot> does anyone know of a light-weight media player for gnome?
[12:59] <esac> devios: possibly try changing that to hosts:    dns files   .. and see if that helps
[12:59] <bebeth> hi
[12:59] <dyrne> mikebot: mplayer is the king
[12:59] <Hi^gh^LIfe> could someone plz help me get my onboard sound working i think my x-fi is interfering and makeing it so that ubuntu doesnt find my onboard
[12:59] <KakiPukul> totem is lightweight... compares to xine or vlc... or mplayer
[12:59] <Aaron_Mason> is anyone here experienced in getting gmailfs to work?
[12:59] <mikebot> dyrne, mplayer is way too heavy for me
[12:59] <_jason> Seveas: I'll have to submit a patch to crontab
[01:00] <ubunturox> can somebody please help me ?
[01:00] <iBalo> mikebot: totem is as lightweight as it can get.... uses all the gnome-libs, which are already loaded
[01:00] <ubunturox> https://czarism.com/debian-ubuntu-apache2-and-openssl-https <-- this guide isnt working
[01:00] <mikebot> dyrne, i just want a box with a duration bar and volume bar, and that's it
[01:00] <_jason> ubunturox: just ask your question
[01:00] <ubunturox> the https:// gives me error
[01:00] <funkyHat> mikebot, xfmedia is pretty good...
[01:00] <ubunturox> i'm trying to setup HTTPS on APACHE2
[01:00] <Seveas> _jason, hm?
[01:00] <Seveas> why?
[01:00] <mikebot> funkyHat, thanks
[01:00] <ozee> KakiPukul & Kr4t05:.....  thanks i'll try
[01:00] <Aya> I'm interessed by a lignt-weight media player too (^_^... I use mplayer, but in text mode (for my little brother it's complicated)
[01:00] <_jason> Seveas: never mind, I was just aying I'd have to patch crontab to use my behavior so that I would be right
[01:00] <ubunturox> i get this error  Invalid method in request \x80g\x01\x03
[01:01] <devios> esac, trying now - thanks
[01:01] <Seveas> _jason, hahaha :D
[01:01] <jetscreamer> xine-ui functions
[01:01] <jetscreamer> but might not be available
[01:01] <devios> esac, still taking freaking forever... anoying... gonna have to tcpdump
[01:02] <mikebot> totem is pretty laggy too
[01:02] <devios> grrrr
[01:02] <_jason> Aya: gmplayer to heavy?
[01:02] <Aya> oki, thanks
[01:02] <devios> flyers game in hdtv > dns problems
[01:02] <dyrne> i changed my parents xp comp over to mplayer no frontend from media player and told them they just had to get used to the keyboard commands
[01:02] <ompaul> ubuntulog, what kind of browser?
[01:02] <holobyted> KakiPukul, not using ATi... any ideas w/ nVidia?
[01:02] <iBalo> mikebot: totem-xine?
[01:02] <ubunturox> anybody got a clue ?
[01:02] <Lars_G> I want to know, how come you've not finished dapper yet?? I'm very dissapointed at you
[01:02] <Lars_G> :P
[01:02] <Lars_G> lol
[01:02] <mikebot> iBalo, "Totem Movie Player"
[01:02] <Aya> Hh, i haven't had idea to use the GUI for mplayer...
[01:02] <ompaul> ubunturox, what browser are you using
[01:02] <Aya> Thanks
[01:02] <mikebot> iBalo, Totem 1.2.0
[01:03] <KakiPukul> no, never used nvidia's
[01:03] <ubunturox> nm, fixed
[01:03] <ubunturox> the documentation was a bit problematic
[01:03] <ubunturox> but its ok now :)
[01:04] <KakiPukul> liie Fedora?
[01:04] <ubunturox> welp, laters
[01:04] <KakiPukul> canllaith: : ubuntu is not targeted for developers, mostly...
[01:04] <ompaul> Lars_G, it comes out on 20th April, and please try to keep it all to one line
[01:04] <mikebot> iBalo, also when i scroll up with mouse wheel 3, the video fast forwards, but the audio doesn't
[01:04] <esac> how can i enable sending my hostname/ip to the dns server so that other computers can ping me by name ?
[01:04] <mikebot> iBalo, and i would rather mouse 3 be for volume
[01:04] <iBalo> mikebot: totem is just a frontend... it can use gstreamer (:-(( ) pr xine (:-)) as backend. try intsalling totem-xine (this will kick totem-gstreamer)
[01:05] <chuckyp> esac, the dns server would need your hostname/ip so that would work.
[01:05] <mikebot> iBalo, okay
[01:05] <majd> is there a way to change the right click menu on the task bar on the bottom to make the close button the last one in the menu?
[01:05] <ompaul> KakiPukul, I would not agree with you, any developer would know or figure out rather quickly where to look, and there are so many types of developers these days it would be a bit hard to cater for them all
[01:05] <esac> chuckyp: on windows boxes when you get a dhcp address, it registers your dhcp address with the dns server .. is there not this functionality in linux ?
[01:05] <iBalo> mikebot: vlc might be worth a try, too
[01:05] <KakiPukul> yeah, they know...
[01:06] <mikebot> iBalo, how can i switch between these after i download them?
[01:06] <chuckyp> esac, no if your talking about windows networking it uses wins or some other varient.
[01:06] <majd> i.e. is there a way to modify the gnome taskbar right click menu
[01:06] <KakiPukul> but ubuntu, IMHO isn't developer friendly, it was meant for easy use for new GNU/Linux users...
[01:06] <Kr4t05> Ok...
[01:06] <Kr4t05> So...
[01:06] <chuckyp> esac, What exactly are you trying to do just ping the hostname on the network froma  window box?
[01:06] <KakiPukul> well, you are developer, you should know better
[01:06] <iBalo> mikebot: nautilus has a right click :-)
[01:06] <Kr4t05> The doom legacy forums says that 1.43Beta works better than 1.42
[01:07] <Kr4t05> But, the only sources for 1.43b are for OS X. :/
[01:07] <kejup> kakipukul- yeah, but it has strong connections with debian, which is extremely developer friendly
[01:07] <Hi^gh^LIfe> Does anyone have a logitech mx518 with all the buttons working?
[01:07] <mikebot> iBalo, i don't know what nautilus is
[01:07] <Kr4t05> I might indulge in the n00bish question, and ask if I should still try to compile, but instead, I'll be quiet.
[01:07] <Jeeva> kejup: hehe, no its debian with another name :P
[01:07] <iBalo> the gnome file manager
[01:07] <KakiPukul> i just use three button mouse plus a scroll
[01:08] <KakiPukul> hehe
[01:08] <kejup> mikebot- it is the program that you navigate folders with
[01:08] <KakiPukul> ubuntu is debian based, but the packages names are way different...
[01:08] <Duke_Net> der proxy (die einstellung muss raus ) !!!!
[01:08] <KakiPukul> universe :)
[01:08] <mikebot> kejup, ah okay, thanks
[01:08] <Duke_Net> hilfe
[01:08] <_jason> !de
[01:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:08] <Hi^gh^LIfe> yeha
[01:09] <Hi^gh^LIfe> what?
[01:09] <Kr4t05> Oh, kewl
[01:09] <kejup> kakipul- i don't even know what the context of the discussion is....so I'll butt out. :)
[01:09] <Kr4t05> !logitech
[01:09] <ubotu> logitech is, like, totally, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471
[01:09] <wonea> hello, how do I install a .deb file?
[01:09] <_jason> !deb
[01:09] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[01:09] <brenner> wonea: what is it?
[01:09] <Lars_G> Sigh i couldn't respond to ompaul
[01:09] <mikebot> iBalo, i'm sorry, i guess i am not understanmding
[01:09] <KakiPukul> oh shortcuts for FaQs cool
[01:10] <hermes> have installed aMule and xMule. both of them give with each server "serverX gave time-out". ??
[01:10] <kejup> Any perl programmers in here? I'm trying to use the module "HTML::Display", but I don't know what package to install to get it.
[01:10] <Kr4t05> iBalo: Anyone could with a bit of practice. :P
[01:10] <_jason> iBalo: it looked it I guess
[01:10] <Hi^gh^LIfe> yes but i was wondering if someone could just give me the xorg mouse configuration part
[01:10] <wonea> brenner: sdl mixer
[01:10] <mikebot> iBalo, how do i change totem from gstreamer to totem-xine?
[01:10] <Hi^gh^LIfe> so i dont have to go through all that stuff
[01:10] <wonea> ubotu: thanks
[01:10] <ubotu> pas de quoi, wonea
[01:10] <KakiPukul> kejup: : install the libperl-html* stuff
[01:10] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: I installed modconf, is there anything else i need to do?
[01:10] <Duke_Net> help me (proxy ....i can't connecting ............((( ???    Proxy = OFF or del   ??? )))  please
[01:10] <iBalo> mikebot: don't worry , just 'sudo apt-get install totem-xine' and everything is done for you :-)
[01:11] <slvmchn> i'm still having trouble converting .ogg's to .mp3's, i can play/edit mp3s but not export them, any help?
[01:11] <_jason> Duke_Net: /join #ubuntu-de
[01:11] <canllaith> KakiPukul: yeah, I know, but it's still frustrating :) Still, I think I have everything sorted now.
[01:11] <KakiPukul> totem-xine will remove totem-gstreamer...
[01:11] <mikebot> iBalo, okay, well i already downloaded it via synaptic
[01:11] <hermes>  have installed aMule and xMule. both of them give with each server "serverX gave time-out". ??
[01:11] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: sudo modconf, then just browse for the modules and load them.
[01:11] <iBalo> mikebot: then you've already got it running
[01:11] <jetscreamer> or unload as wanted
[01:11] <Hi^gh^LIfe> anyone  have the mx518 and is willing to share there xorg.conf settings with me?
[01:12] <esac> chuckyp: sorry need to clarify. this is on a windows network at work where we run our own dns servers .. i guess i can use wins too, but any idea how to enable sending a wins update ?
[01:12] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: which ones should i get?
[01:12] <_jason> Hi^gh^LIfe: I have an mx1000 tutorial you can read if you can't find your exact mouse...
[01:12] <mikebot> iBalo, wow, much betterk, thank you
[01:12] <kejup> kakipukul- which one though. I have quite a few of them installed.
[01:12] <iBalo> mikebot: just to make sure: you are not running dapper and xgl, are you?
[01:13] <Hi^gh^LIfe> naaa i know i know were the tutorial is i just want the xorg settings so i dont have to waste my time
[01:13] <Hi^gh^LIfe> 1 i know*
[01:13] <IdleOne> Hi^gh^LIfe:  not a waste of time if you get it to work right?
[01:13] <Hi^gh^LIfe> haha no but it is if your short on time
[01:13] <majd> is there a way to modify the gnome right click menus
[01:13] <majd> ?
[01:14] <iBalo> properties
[01:14] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: Which modules should I load?
[01:14] <KakiPukul> yeah, using gconf... but i still can;t figure that out yet...
[01:14] <_jason> majd: you can use nautilus scripts to add functionality
[01:14] <majd> _jason, i just want to rearrange some of the buttons
[01:14] <majd> take the "Close" button to the bottom
[01:15] <iBalo> ouch!
[01:15] <esac> i have a laptop which i want to install breezy on .. it can't connect to the network, so i want to make a cd with all of the updates currently. is this possible ?
[01:15] <_jason> majd: oh I see, might want to try #gnome too
[01:15] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05 snd-pcm-oss  modprobe snd-seq-oss  if they're not already loaded, and the rtc vs genrtc is in a different area
[01:15] <jetscreamer> s/modprobe//
[01:15] <KakiPukul> esac, the network controller configured?
[01:15] <majd> _jason, touche
[01:16] <kejup> esac- it will be easier to just install the latest release.....is there any particular reason you need to most updated packages?
[01:16] <_jason> majd: try the channel on freenode and GIMPnet
[01:16] <kejup> kakipukul- so do you have any idea which of the 20-30 libhtml*-perl packages has HTML::Display?
[01:16] <majd> _jason, ok, i'll give it a try
[01:16] <esac> kejup: not any particular reason other than id like all of the fixes etc.. so that it is stable..
[01:17] <KakiPukul> kejup:  I am not familiar with Perl Lib
[01:17] <Lars_G> kejup: Another good option though a little harder is using CPAN
[01:17] <fx> hi
[01:17] <KakiPukul> I'll try to install all
[01:17] <kejup> lars- I am using cpan....or at least html::mechanize
[01:17] <fx> Hi
[01:17] <KakiPukul> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ << try to look for that here...
[01:17] <Lars_G> kejup: Then you can pull HTML::Display via the CPAN installer.
[01:18] <Lars_G> kejup: It's not a deb but it saves the dig
[01:18] <KakiPukul> what's the file taht define that "Display" module?
[01:18] <KakiPukul> well.. I would to know...
[01:18] <KakiPukul> *like*
[01:18] <nitrosport_5> where can i get the module-assistant
[01:19] <Lars_G> KakiPukul: most surely "Display.pm" inside a directory called HTML, going to look in packages?
[01:19] <kejup> Lars_G- Maybe I'm confused. Perhaps I'm not using CPAN. I just installed libwww-mechanize-perl. I know that all the online documentation is from CPAN, though I frankly don't know what "CPAN" is.
[01:19] <KakiPukul> yeah
[01:19] <Krillancello> Hullo. Does anyone know of any guides or the like for doing a Ubuntu 'server' install ("server" at the CD's boot: prompt) and then adding in X, Gnome, etc.?
[01:19] <Kr4t05> Krillancello
[01:19] <brenner> nitrosport_5: enable universe
[01:20] <nitrosport_5> type that in terminal brenner?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: after the install is done you would need to add the extra stuff  like sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <brenner> ubotu: tell nitrosport_5 about universe
[01:20] <_jason> Krillancello: by ``etc'' do you mean getting all of the stuff the regular install provides?
[01:20] <Kr4t05> Krillancello: you can do the server install and use 'sudo apt-get' to install what you need.
[01:20] <Krillancello> _jason: No, not all of it. Just certain things.
[01:20] <brenner> nitrosport_5: check your pms
[01:20] <Lars_G> kejup: In this case it's a package manager lets you download packages (modules) from CPAN and install, but that lends more thowards a #perl discussion :)
[01:20] <kejup> esac- I'd say that the regular releases are probably more stable.
[01:20] <Kr4t05> I plan to do that with a light-build.
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop will install gnome and all the other packages with gnome
[01:21] <KakiPukul> kejup: : i found three modules that has HTML::Display module, they are "slash", "kwiki" and "slimp3"
[01:21] <kejup> Lars_G- I see. I think I'd rather stick with apt-get lest I stumble into dependency hell.
[01:21] <kejup> kakipukul- weird, none of the libhtml*-perl?
[01:21] <Lars_G> kejup: Ok, still in the future learning CPAN is a good tool for perl programmers .
[01:21] <Krillancello> gnomefreak: I don't want to install everything that comes standard with the non-server install.
[01:21] <Lars_G> kejup: Let me check.
[01:22] <KakiPukul> yeah
[01:22] <seraphim> apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:22] <KakiPukul> CPAN, perl module installer right?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: installing it like that is easiest and sure way for X to work
[01:22] <seraphim> together with openoffice...
[01:22] <Kr4t05> Question
[01:22] <Kr4t05> I installed KDE
[01:22] <gnomefreak> seraphim: ok
[01:22] <brenner> fglrx driver and suspend to ram don't seem to mix.  has anyone else experienced this?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop is ok to uninstall
[01:22] <Kr4t05> How do I remove GNOME to clear some space?
[01:22] <otto_> how can i make my ubuntu linux faster???? i want to disable a lot services that i dont need!
[01:22] <seraphim> sure, but openoffice isn't
[01:22] <seraphim> ;)
[01:23] <_jason> Krillancello: x-window-system-core gives you X iirc, don't know what will get you just gnome
[01:23] <gnomefreak> seraphim: it wants to get rid of openoffice?
[01:23] <seraphim> yes
[01:23] <gnomefreak> seraphim: let me guess your upgrading to dapper?
[01:23] <brenner> *nod* i thought ub-desktop was required for updrage transisions?
[01:23] <mikebot> iBalo, what is dapper and igl?
[01:23] <bajek> anyone from poland who can me help with polish fonts in xterm ?
[01:23] <KakiPukul> for a while, then it will re-install all the package... dist-upgrade tight, seraphim?
[01:23] <brenner> s/updrage/upgrade
[01:23] <gnomefreak> seraphim: and it will replace openoffice
[01:23] <woolbeo> Is there any trick to get grub to install on a i2o raid array?
[01:23] <kejup> Lars_G- I'm not really a perl programmer though. :) I just use it occassionally because I find it easier than shell scripting.
[01:23] <seraphim> er. no. i use dapper -.- missed checking the channel before writing *g
[01:24] <iBalo> mikebot: never mind. If you don't know, there's no problem :-)
[01:24] <Krillancello> I remember reading something somewhere about an apt-get line someone used to install X and Gnome, and nothing else.
[01:24] <Krillancello> The problem is that I've forgotten where.
[01:24] <kejup> kakipukul- those packages that you found....did you search the universe/multiverse, or just the official repositories?
[01:24] <wastrel> gnome-desktop-environment
[01:25] <mikebot> iBalo, hehe okay
[01:25] <KakiPukul> it's on the universe...
[01:25] <brenner> Krillancello: the xserver-org package aaybe?
[01:25] <wastrel> should pull in gnome and all deps, including X server
[01:25] <gnomefreak> wastrel: that wont install X though  will it?
[01:25] <brenner> *xserver-xorg
[01:25] <KakiPukul> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=Display.pm&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386 << kejup
[01:25] <otto_> how can i make my ubuntu linux faster???? i want to disable a lot services that i dont need!
[01:25] <wastrel> gnomefreak:  dunno but doesn't gnome depend on X?  have to look at the package i guess..
[01:25] <brenner> ah, whoops
[01:25] <Krillancello> brenner: No, it was a relatively long string. Maybe five or six separate packages. x-window-system-core, possibly gnome-session, and some other things.
[01:25] <KakiPukul> well, you can use the Administration -> Service, otto_ :)
[01:25] <brenner> sorry.  misread you
[01:25] <mikebot> how can i add a folder (like the Applications, Places, &c. folders) on my panel?
[01:26] <kejup> kakipukul- ahhh, I didn't know that was there. Thanks
[01:26] <gnomefreak> wastrel: yeah for the most part
[01:26] <wonea> I'm a gonna, somehow I've got a broken link, I'm looking into package manager, any help please?
[01:26] <seraphim> there aren't many services you don't need otto_
[01:26] <KakiPukul> well, the Menu "System"
[01:26] <Wammy|> anyone want to make $30 and get free webhosting?
[01:26] <seraphim> cups perhaps, if you don't print :D
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: thats not one package thats a bunch of them in one command
[01:26] <mr_lampe> n8
[01:26] <jetscreamer> yes, that guy over there does!
[01:26] <Krillancello> Wammy|: I'd like to make $30, but I do my own webhosting. ;P
[01:26] <Wammy|> im tured of messing with this sound dirvers, willing to pay some one to get the drivers working.
[01:26] <jetscreamer> no, the other one!
[01:26] <Wammy|> bah! stupid keyboard.
[01:26] <saniX> Wammy|, what do you need ?
[01:27] <jetscreamer> Wammy|: call geeksRus
[01:27] <Krillancello> gnomefreak: That's true, but I never said one package. I said one _line_.
[01:27] <_jason> Krillancello: the package wastrel mentioned seems to be it
[01:27] <biloyp> anyone know of a card counter for Yahoo spades for Linux
[01:27] <gnomefreak> oh sorry
[01:27] <jetscreamer> nm they're probably windows only
[01:27] <mikebot> how can i add a folder (like the Applications, Places, &c. folders) on my panel?
[01:27] <kejup> wammyl- did you try contacting paid ubuntu support?
[01:27] <otto_> seraphim: thanks for the help
[01:27] <Wammy|> saniX, I have a acer travelmate 720tx with a neomagic 2200 sound device, and i cant get it to work.
[01:27] <gnomefreak> biloyp: card counting is not legal :(
[01:27] <_jason> biloyp: pen and paper works
[01:27] <mikebot> gnomefreak, card counting is legal
[01:27] <KakiPukul> Clik on the custom icon... mikebot: i think
[01:28] <biloyp> LOl thx gnomefreak and jason
[01:28] <Wammy|> the main reason for this laptop is the sound card i need a mobile sound system,.
[01:28] <biloyp> I try and use my brain but dont work well all the time
[01:28] <kejup> wammyl- http://www.ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/paidsupport
[01:28] <mikebot> KakiPukul, where is that?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mikebot: its not legal and will get you arrested at a casino
[01:28] <Lars_G> kejup: Can't find it, sorry.
[01:28] <_jason> biloyp: personally I use a ruler for the pool game, works well
[01:28] <mikebot> gnomefreak, it is legal and you wont get arrested, you'll get kicked out
[01:28] <biloyp> I meant on line
[01:28] <Krillancello> Anything's legal as long as you don't get caught. ;)
[01:28] <biloyp> a ruler?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> mikebot: its stealing from the casino
[01:28] <mikebot> gnomefreak, you will be asked to elave that is
[01:28] <gnomefreak> and pssssst offtopic
[01:28] <Wammy|> saniX, interested?
[01:29] <biloyp> just curious
[01:29] <_jason> biloyp: yeah to line up the shots (let's end this now since it's not support)
[01:29] <mikebot> gnomefreak, it's a using logic to win a hand
[01:29] <biloyp> ok jason
[01:29] <mikebot> gnomefreak, a more advanced notion of stay on 21 and hitting on 10
[01:29] <biloyp> thx though
[01:29] <mikebot> gnomefreak, you use stratgey to play your hands--it's not illegal
[01:29] <gnomefreak> mikebot: offtopic
[01:29] <saniX> Wammy|, try this command sudo gnome-sound-properties &
[01:29] <mikebot> gnomefreak, hah
[01:30] <biloyp> just curious though
[01:30] <mikebot> how can i add a folder (like the Applications, Places, &c. folders) on my panel?
[01:30] <kejup> Lars_G- thanks for looking....kakipukul gave me a good link: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:31] <Krillancello> mikebot: You can add subfolders of Applications to the panel, but Applications/Places/System are already on the panel.
[01:31] <xored> how to make a "screenshot to clibort" with linux ?
[01:31] <dejx> PrtSc
[01:31] <mikebot> Krillancello, yeah, i don't want a sub menu, but like a folder next to System
[01:31] <mikebot> Krillancello, that comes up like the others do
[01:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mikebot: right-click -> add to panel -> main menu
[01:31] <Krillancello> mikebot: Oh, you mean add another top-level menu?
[01:31] <_jason> xored: clibort?
[01:32] <mikebot> Krillancello, yeha
[01:32] <xored> _jason: clipboard
[01:32] <mikebot> PuMpErNiCkLe, where do i right click?
[01:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mikebot: on the panel
[01:32] <Krillancello> That would probably require some heavy modification of the menu files.
[01:32] <gnomefreak> pdmenu :)
[01:33] <_jason> xored: if you go to system > take screenshort, you can save it to a file and then insert it somewhere
[01:33] <Krillancello> Well, maybe not. It's been a while since I cared to edit menus apart from hiding stuff.
[01:33] <mikebot> PuMpErNiCkLe, and if i remove things from this menu, it wont remove it from my other Applications menu?
[01:33] <dooglus> mikebot: you know you can add "drawers", right?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> there are pre compiled menus you can install with the one you already have and you can get rid of that one
[01:33] <mikebot> PuMpErNiCkLe, oh nevermind, i did the wrong one, thanks
[01:34] <mikebot> dooglus, what's a drawer?
[01:34] <Krillancello> mikebot: A drawer is kinda like a KDE menu.
[01:34] <dooglus> mikebot: it's like a menu, only thinner.  right-click the panel, say 'add to panel', and add a drawer
[01:34] <Krillancello> It's a menu with an icon instead of text.
[01:34] <Krillancello> >_>
[01:34] <Lars_G> Drawers are nestable expanding launchers in Gnome
[01:34] <Lars_G> The only gnome feature I miss on KDE
[01:35] <mikebot> dooglus, ah okay, this is what i want
[01:35] <dooglus> mikebot: you found it?
[01:35] <mikebot> dooglus, yeah, thanks
[01:35] <mikebot> dooglus, is there a way to make it so when i click off it, it closes?
[01:35] <lucidmonkey> can someone help me get blender64 bit running?
[01:35] <dooglus> mikebot: not that I know of
[01:35] <Hollowman8904> to make a script run by just typing in the name (no need to worry about directory), you just copy it to the bin folder, right?
[01:35] <kejup> Lars_G- Oh come on. You know Konqueror kicks bootie,
[01:36] <Krillancello> mikebot, dooglus: The reason I don't use drawers. ;P
[01:36] <Hollowman8904> like it becomes a command
[01:36] <mikebot> Krillancello, hehe
[01:36] <dooglus> mikebot: we don't want to offer too much flexibility.  it would confuse you.  :)
[01:36] <mikebot> Krillancello, but the add menu thing adds another applications, etc.
[01:36] <mikebot> dooglus, haha, apparently
[01:36] <gnomefreak> is there a way to install a package without it removing another package?
[01:36] <dooglus> gnomefreak: if it's removing another package it's because the 2 packages are mutually incompatible.
[01:36] <kejup> Lars_G- Firefox and epiphany are really starting to get on my nerves (so sluggish). I might install Konqueror soon (even though it won't be quite as zippy and won't have the same integration that it does with KDE).
[01:37] <dooglus> gnomefreak: you might find some "-force" flag, but you shouldn't.
[01:37] <Hollowman8904> to make a script run by just typing in the name (no need to worry about directory), you just copy it to the bin folder, right?
[01:37] <gnomefreak> dooglus: yes i know but i cant get an older version of it
[01:37] <esac> is there a "fake install" command for apt-get so i can see what version it would install ?
[01:37] <canllaith> KHTML is zippier than gecko :) I recently did some testing for get some sane minimum system requirements to put on the KDE docs
[01:37] <lucidmonkey> how do i put the download package somewhere that i can actuall run it from?
[01:37] <dooglus> Hollowman8904: you copy it into any directory which is in your $PATH variable, and make sure it's executable
[01:37] <gnomefreak> these 2 packages need to be installed together :(
[01:37] <brenner> kejup: ff1.5 is supposed to be more zippy
[01:37] <canllaith> Konqi would run with 64MB memory, firefox just fell over and died
[01:37] <wastrel> it is more zippy
[01:37] <_jason> esac: apt-get -s install blah
[01:37] <dooglus> esac: "apt-cache policy <package>"
[01:37] <_jason> esac: but apt-cache policy blah, is better for what you want
[01:38] <brenner> lucidmonkey: what format is it?
[01:38] <Lars_G> kejup: My favorite version of konqueror though is Safari
[01:38] <mikebot> dooglus, wait, this drawer, i want it so like i can add files to it, and folders, and the folders will open to the right...like the start menu in windows
[01:38] <esac> kk, tnx
[01:38] <mikebot> dooglus, or the debian folder in Applications
[01:38] <lucidmonkey> brenner, it is tar.gz
[01:38] <kejup> brenner- I bet it still isn't as zippy as Konqueror. Anyone know why the linux version of Firefox is so damn slow? The windows version is much faster.
[01:38] <dooglus> mikebot: I don't know if it can do that.  I think it might just be somewhere to put icons, but I'm not sure.
[01:38] <gnomefreak> mikebot: pdmenu for a debian menu inside your applications dropdown
[01:39] <mikebot> gnomefreak, what's pdmenu?
[01:39] <Krillancello> kejup: Because Windows makes up for it by eating all the memory and being slow itself. ;P
[01:39] <Lars_G> Hollowman8904: If you DO copy it to bin, using sudo, check it's NOT writable by users other than root
[01:39] <gnomefreak> its the debian menu add on for your applications menu
[01:39] <brenner> lucidmonkey: you need to save that and extract it.  my guess is it's source.  use checkinstall to install, then you can remove the dir later.  but read the README or INSTALL file first
[01:39] <kejup> Lars_G- I'm not a big fan of the OSX interface. The lack of multiple desktops makes things very cluttered. Does Safari even have tabs?
[01:39] <mikebot> gnomefreak, do i have to download it from synaptic?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> mikebot: sudo apt-get install pdmenu
[01:39] <dooglus> mikebot: I just managed to add a "menu bar" into my drawer - right click inside the open drawer and "add to drawer"
[01:39] <Lars_G> kejup: There is a virtual desktop system for OS X, even without it, the rest of the UI makes up for it, and yes, Safari has tabs.
[01:40] <kejup> Krillancello- I know, but when I spend 90% of my time browsing the web then I don't mind the tradeoff.
[01:40] <lucidmonkey> brenner, there are instruction on the blender site but it won't allow me to extract to usr/local
[01:40] <canllaith> is there a package with nice fixed width fonts? The ones installed are a little limited in choice
[01:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell canllaith about fonts
[01:40] <mikebot> dooglus, it's just i don't want the menu bar, but my own menu
[01:40] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I don't think he said he wanted the debian menu, I think he said he wanted a menu that *acts like* the debian menu.
[01:40] <Krillancello> kejup: Are you talking about page load time, or the time it takes Firefox to start up?
[01:41] <dooglus> mikebot: are you sure?  we've done extensive usability testing and found that you *don't* want that...
[01:41] <mikebot> dooglus, that's right
[01:41] <wastrel> kejup:  did you upgrade to ff 1.5 ?
[01:41] <holobyted> the fonts on my DVI display seem to be a little bit too.. sharp.. and font preferences don't seem to alter them - any suggestions?
[01:41] <Lars_G> Krillancello: The UI's response time in Firefox in general I guess.
[01:41] <lucidmonkey> brenner, there is no Reamde or Install.txt...
[01:41] <gnomefreak> refresh my memory what does the debian menu do differnt than gnome menu?
[01:41] <Lars_G> Krillancello: XUL has a price to pay for portability
[01:41] <kejup> Krillancello- Both. Also the scroll speed and the page render speed. Just about everything is slow with Firefox.
[01:41] <brenner> lucidmonkey: instructions url?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> i havent used debain in over a year
[01:41] <mikebot> dooglus, if you've used windows, i'm tlaking about how you can add folders to that menu, and folders inside those, and they open up to the right
[01:41] <Hollowman8904> how do you ask for input in a script?
[01:41] <dooglus> mikebot: it sounds like you're confused.  you've probably been looking at too many configuration options.  here, let's take a few more away...
[01:41] <wastrel> Hollowman8904:  google bash scripting howto  ?
[01:41] <brenner> gnomefreak: it doesn't have the orange triplets icon :P
[01:41] <Lars_G> mikebot: a drawer's directionality is afaik independently configurable
[01:42] <avu> Hollowman8904, read
[01:42] <lucidmonkey> http://download.blender.org/documentation/html/chapter_installation.html <-brenner
[01:42] <kejup> Mikebot- Use KDE. It is better for customization IMO.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lol brenner that can be changed i hear
[01:42] <canllaith> awesome thanks gnomefreak
[01:42] <gnomefreak> yw canllaith
[01:42] <gnomefreak> kejup: fluxbox is even easier to configure :)
[01:42] <brenner> lucidmonkey: aha.  that's just a binary then.  run it via ./blender as stated
[01:42] <mikebot> kejup, i tried kde, but it doens't looka s nice
[01:42] <[javamaniac] > hi!!!
[01:42] <mikebot> Lars_G, drawers don't close automatically
[01:42] <[javamaniac] > where can i find automatix sources??
[01:43] <xst> I have written a suggestion on how ubuntu could support non-free and restricted formats in a more user friendly manor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IncludeRestricted   Any comments?
[01:43] <wastrel> !automatix
[01:43] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[01:43] <gnomefreak> maybe not easier but more configurable
[01:43] <[javamaniac] > i mean,the tar.gz?
[01:43] <lucidmonkey> brenner, i extraced to my desktop and that doesn't work
[01:43] <kejup> mikebot- really? Usually people think KDE is the nicer looking for the two.
[01:43] <lucidmonkey> it does nothing
[01:43] <wastrel> [javamaniac] :  use easyubuntu instead.
[01:43] <mikebot> kejup, i would use kde, except also the menus it has have way too many things in it
[01:43] <wastrel> !tell [javamaniac]  about easyubuntu
[01:43] <brenner> gnomefreak: i removed menu icons completely.  no lag anymore
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell [javamaniac]  about automatix
[01:43] <mikebot> kejup, it's too clustered for me
[01:43] <brenner> lucidmonkey: you don't get a folder on the desktop?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu thanks
[01:43] <ubotu> my pleasure, gnomefreak
[01:43] <lucidmonkey> brenner, i do, and all the files are there
[01:44] <lucidmonkey> but i click on blender and it doesn't work
[01:44] <[javamaniac] > ok,thanks
[01:44] <lucidmonkey> it also won't run from terminal window
[01:44] <lucidmonkey> i think it needs to be somewhere else
[01:44] <[javamaniac] > but,just for the record
[01:44] <brenner> lucidmonkey: any errors?
[01:44] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: Which modules should I load?
[01:44] <[javamaniac] > where can i find it?curiosity
[01:44] <brenner> lucidmonkey: you're running it via something like ~/Desktop/blender right?
[01:44] <SGershon> Hi again! GRUB question, this time:
[01:44] <gnomefreak> !esyubuntu
[01:44] <Lars_G> Kr4t05: For what?
[01:44] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:44] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[01:44] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:44] <SGershon> I usually use only ubuntu on my computer.
[01:44] <SGershon> In work we have Suse, and I instaled SUSE just to have it ready if I happen to need it.
[01:45] <SGershon> But SUSE's grub loader overwrote my Ubuntu grub loader.
[01:45] <SGershon> (of course)
[01:45] <mikebot> no way to do this menu thing then?
[01:45] <SGershon> How can I make the Ubuntu grub loader to be he one to be use
[01:45] <Kr4t05> Lars_G: I'm having sound problems in Doom 3, and I was told to load certain modules with modconf.
[01:45] <brenner> where's the geese juggling reference from?
[01:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell SGershon about grub
[01:45] <kejup> wastrel- ff 1.5 isn't in the *iverse yet is it?
[01:45] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05 snd-pcm-oss  snd-seq-oss ,  if they're not already loaded.  rtc vs genrtc is in a different area. you want the rtc not generic rtc.
[01:45] <Lars_G> Kr4t05: What kind of sound problems?
[01:45] <_jason> SGershon: I'd assume the steps are the same as if windows had overwritten (see the link)
[01:45] <lucidmonkey> brenner, hmm, this time it worked from terminal!
[01:45] <lucidmonkey> i swear... ty for your help!
[01:45] <SGershon> _jason, thanks!
[01:45] <wastrel> kejup:  no but there's a howto for installing it on breezy - and it's significantly faster than 1.0.7
[01:46] <wastrel> !tell kejup about ff1.5
[01:46] <soundray> SGershon: I suggest you stick with the SuSE boot loader, but copy your Ubuntu /boot/grub/menu.lst over to the SuSE partition.
[01:46] <brenner> lucidmonkey: how did you run it from terminal before?
[01:46] <RedRose> how do i reconfigure gnome to allow more resolution settings?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> or anything else
[01:46] <SGershon> soundray, It is a good idea, but then i I ned to do something to it, I'd have to boot on Suse just for this...
[01:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell RedRose about fixres
[01:46] <lucidmonkey> the same way... tis strange.  i closed and tried the same command and know it won't start again
[01:46] <lucidmonkey> *now
[01:47] <SGershon> mikebot, what do you need with the menues?
[01:47] <soundray> SGershon: no, you can mount the Suse partition from within ubuntu.
[01:47] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: I don't see them in there.
[01:47] <Lars_G> lucidmonkey: When it fails to start, what error do you get?
[01:47] <mikebot> SGershon, have you ever used windows?
[01:47] <dooglus> mikebot: did you try asking in #gnome?
[01:47] <mikebot> dooglus, no
[01:47] <kejup> xst- are you sitll there? I have some comments on your suggestion.
[01:47] <dooglus> mikebot: they might have more of an idea what GNOME can do
[01:47] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: should be waaay at the bottom, sound area. you might have to poke around a bit.
[01:47] <mikebot> dooglus, okay, thanks
[01:47] <wastrel> gnomefreak:  i imagine it comes with a friendly ubuntu-specific howto and doesn't require advanced cli skills like making symlinks & such...
[01:47] <brenner> re: fixres.  do you have to know which video driver you're currently using, or is the current one selected by default.  that's a possible stumbling block for newbies
[01:47] <lucidmonkey> ./blender: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:48] <xst> kejup: Yes. Hit me
[01:48] <Engla> now I'm angry. Gnome just randomly refuses to log in. Usually I'm able to fix it, but this time it wont... it just sits with a brown screen before the sound and the ubutnu splash is shown... how do I solve this.
[01:48] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: each entry in the top-level has 1 or >1 modules under it
[01:48] <Engla> I've tried the .ICEAuthority file perms
[01:48] <_jason> lucidmonkey: install libstdc++5
[01:48] <Lars_G> hmmm
[01:48] <canllaith> Engla: emptying /tmp might help, sometimes there are stale lock files
[01:48] <canllaith> Engla: and also, check the permissions on /tmp if you can't write to it gnome will not start
[01:48] <Engla> canllaith: well I've rebooted twice
[01:48] <Engla> but okay
[01:48] <kejup> wastrel- eh, I think I'll wait for the official version. I don't like to moneky around with the repositories. I've broken debian too many times and now I have a phobia.
[01:48] <canllaith> the permissions persist through reboots on my ubuntu system
[01:48] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: Ok.
[01:49] <[javamaniac] > then,where can i find automatrix,just to compare......
[01:49] <AngryElf> hey all, I've been trying to get a 2.6.15.4 kernel booted and I keep getting a kernel panic right when it loads -> it can't mount the root fs at unknown-block(0,0)............I'm pretty sure I had all the modules compiled in with the kernl but i guess i'm wrong, could anybody look at my .config file to see if i've missed anything?
[01:49] <lucidmonkey> _jason, lol.. ok, shortest path to that?
[01:49] <Lars_G> lucidmonkey: Is there a file ending in .sh in the directory?
[01:49] <wastrel> kejup:  it's worth it :] 
[01:49] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: The first two are loaded, but I'm not sure where to look for the other one.
[01:49] <lucidmonkey> Lars_G, no
[01:49] <_jason> lucidmonkey: sudo aptitude install
[01:49] <[javamaniac] > then,where can i find automatrix,just to compare it
[01:49] <xst> kejup: U there?
[01:49] <_jason> lucidmonkey: sudo aptitude install libstdc++5, but isn't blender in the repositories?
[01:49] <kejup> xst- I think one of the major factors in those typical formats (mp3, dvd, etc.) not being supported is legal reasons.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> wastrel: ill let you know as soon as i figure it out
[01:49] <Engla> canllaith: what should tmp permissions be? they look okay -- drwxrwxrwt, root:root
[01:49] <rendi> hi wanna ask
[01:49] <Lars_G> _jason: The program worked once, it's possible his blender set comes with the libstdc it was linked against, and that he just needs the right directories in his LD path
[01:50] <rendi> MemTotal: 1048576 kB how many in Mb ??
[01:50] <wastrel> gnomefreak:  untar it in a subdirectory :p  it spewed junk all over my desktop when i opened it
[01:50] <digitalfox> is the draw_desktop gconf key ignored by nautilus in breezy?
[01:50] <kejup> xst- The packages necessary to get things like mp3s and dvds working is illegal in some countries, primarily in the US.
[01:50] <majd> Hey, i want to make a shortcut in the applications menu to load up limewire. Here's the weird thing, to load it up, i have to navigate to the directory, then do java -jar LimeWire.jar.....i can't just do java -jar tarballs/LimeWire/LimeWire.jar  << that gives me an error when limewire loads up. So is there a way to make a button in the applications menu run more than one command line?
[01:50] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: Where would I look for the rtc one?
[01:50] <canllaith> Engla: that looks fine
[01:50] <_jason> Lars_G: oh I see
[01:50] <Engla> canllaith: and I can't experiment however I want because the computer locks up randomly when I kill gdm. Not every time.. will try now
[01:50] <kejup> xst- By making it easy to install these packages, Ubuntu may be liable.
[01:50] <mikebot> wastrel, are you using gnome?
[01:50] <Krillancello> majd: <command1> && <command2> ?
[01:50] <wastrel> mikebot:  yeah
[01:50] <thedevilsjester> Is there any place I can download a deb for KDevelop that is compatible with ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[01:51] <xst> kejup: Yes, but an experienced user still have a way of installing them. Relatively easily indeed as the packages all exist in a ubuntu-repository (universe). But for unexperienced users the technical-skill requirements are a show stopper
[01:51] <majd> Krillancello, i'm a newbie :(
[01:51] <mikebot> wastrel, have you ever used windows?
[01:51] <Engla> I nuked tmp :-)
[01:51] <Engla> see what happens
[01:51] <majd> so i can do "cd tarballs/LimeWire && java -jar LimeWire.jar"?
[01:51] <rendi> hellooo
[01:51] <wastrel> mikebot:  only occasionally for the past few years...
[01:51] <Krillancello> majd: I believe so.
[01:51] <lucidmonkey> _jason, that worked
[01:51] <rendi> can see me ?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> tarballs is a folder of yours?
[01:51] <lucidmonkey> _jason, i am running 64bit so no
[01:52] <xst> kejup: Easy or not easy: If things are available in the universe-repos anyway it shouldn't depend on the users skills to get the software
[01:52] <canllaith> oh that's why my menu looks huge. Kubuntu is using 22px icons in the KDE menu
[01:52] <lucidmonkey> the 32bit is and that was easy :)
[01:52] <Upayavira> Can someone tell me what the Ubuntu equivalent of chkconfig is? where chkconfig in RH is a tool to see which things from under init.d are configured for which runlevels, and to control (add, delete, modify) the settings
[01:52] <mikebot> wastrel, okay, so you know in windows the start menu, and when youa dd a folder to it, it like op[ens to the right, and fodlers in that open to the right, etc.?
[01:52] <Krillancello> majd: That command would cd from your home directory (/home/username), so that command would give you /home/username/tarballs/LimeWire.
[01:52] <kejup> wastrel- even if ff1.5 is fast, 1.7 will probably be bloated......part of me things I should just switch back to konqueror (even though it isn't nicely integrated with gnome)
[01:52] <mikebot> wastrel, i want to add somehting like that on my panel (like the debian folder in Applications)
[01:52] <majd> Krillancello, right..that's what i want it to do :)
[01:52] <SGershon> _jason, Ok, trying it now. 3, 2, 1... bye.
[01:52] <xst> kejup: That is IMHO against the ubuntu-motto: That things should be easy and userfriendly.
[01:53] <Lars_G> kejup: Dude, I agree with you, FF is great, but slow, even 1.5 which is faster, is slower than other browsers. If you don't want to use FF don't use it, it's your right :)
[01:53] <silmar> brasileiros??
[01:53] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: for the 3rd or 4th time eh... :)
[01:53] <brenner> kejup: so switch then
[01:53] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05 snd-pcm-oss  snd-seq-oss ,  if they're not already loaded.  rtc vs genrtc is in a different area. you want the rtc not generic rtc.
[01:53] <Krillancello> majd: Then cd tarballs/LimeWire && java -jar LimeWire.jar should work. Although you could (and probably should) use ~/tarballs/LimeWire or /home/username/tarballs/LimeWire to make sure it does it right.
[01:53] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: Yeah, but.
[01:53] <soundray> !br
[01:53] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:53] <Lars_G> silmar: #ubuntu-br
[01:53] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: Where would I look for the rtc one?
[01:53] <kejup> xst- I know that things should be easy, but those packages are illegal in the united states.
[01:53] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: /lastlog jetscreamer
[01:53] <silmar> obrigado!!
[01:54] <Krillancello> majd: Remember to replace "username" with your username, if you go with the latter route above.
[01:54] <lucidmonkey> so far i've noticed little difference between 32 and 64bit ubuntu but i want to get some test renders going
[01:54] <kejup> xst- They probably shouldn't be available at all in any ubuntu branded repositories, but for whatever reason ubuntu decided that they are not in danger of prosecution with those packages in the *iverse
[01:54] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: not sure, i forget. starts with a c maybe...
[01:55] <adub> does anyone have a wifi card with atheros chipset
[01:55] <soundray> adub: yes
[01:55] <kejup> brenner- I have all my usernames etc. in firefox right now.....I'll probably switch after I fix my laptop
[01:55] <majd> Krillancello, when i paste "cd tarballs/LimeWire && java -jar LimeWire.jar" into the terminal, it works, but when i do it for the button, then the terminal pops up for a second, disaprears, and nothing happens
[01:55] <majd> any idea why?
[01:55] <Lars_G> kejup: What packages are you talking about?
[01:55] <adub> have you got monitor mode to work on it with the madwifi drivers
[01:55] <mikebot> wastrel, any ideas?
[01:55] <kejup> Lars_G- the mp3 and dvd codecs
[01:55] <Lars_G> kejup: Ah yes.
[01:56] <CarlFK> is there something to report  IDE SMART stats?
[01:56] <soundray> adub: no. At the time when I tried madwifi, it was a known limitation.
[01:56] <Engla> canllaith: It did actually work!! First I rm -rf:ed  /tmp, that was a bad Idea, but when recreating it empty again, it worked. Now I have another trick in my toolbox thanks (and yes, this was caused by improper shutdown (lack of power/laptop) so no surprise there
[01:56] <Krillancello> majd: It could be that LimeWire doesn't like the method. You might try selecting the option in the button config that says something like "Run in a Terminal."
[01:56] <kejup> Lars_G- XST was saying that ubuntu should make it easier. I was just telling him that they aren't easy to install for legal reasons, not because it was overlooked.
[01:56] <adub> soundray are you still using your card
[01:56] <canllaith> Engla: glad to help
[01:56] <soundray> adub: no, it's broken now.
[01:57] <Lars_G> kejup: Yup and I agree with you
[01:57] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: Loaded.
[01:57] <Engla> canllaith: This dir was supposed to be emptied at boot, though. I don't get that it wasn't..
[01:57] <saif> hello, i want to download j2ee, and it comes in a .bin file, i remember i once read that there is something i can do, to get apt to be aware of this install, what should i search for to find out how to do this?
[01:57] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: Restart?
[01:57] <majd> Krillancello, i did =\
[01:57] <adub> oh
[01:57] <adub> lol
[01:57] <canllaith> Engla: *shrugs*
[01:57] <lucidmonkey> Lars_G, sudo aptitude install i need to do this everytime i restart my terminal session?
[01:57] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: 'shouldn't need to. can't swear.
[01:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell saif about java
[01:57] <bimberi> ubotu tell saif about java
[01:57] <canllaith> Engla: I've only used Ubuntu for one day now
[01:58] <soundray> adub, I remember this link having been very helpful (dug up from my bookmarks): http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi
[01:58] <canllaith> I have no idea what it does with /tmp :)
[01:58] <Lars_G> lucidmonkey: No, I think or pray not, but I am not %100 sure :)
[01:58] <Krillancello> majd: I'm not really sure. I don't use LimeWire or java apps much, and I don't currently have a Gnome GUI available to me.
[01:58] <kejup> xst- If you are a US citizen then you should be writing to your Congressman instead of Ubuntu. I guarantee you that if it was legal MP3 and DVD functionality would be built into ubuntu by default.
[01:58] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: Well, Doom 3 still has bad audio.
[01:58] <Krillancello> Although I do know that &&'s work in panel buttons. I've done it before.
[01:58] <majd> eh, ok thanks for helping though
[01:58] <Kr4t05> jetsreamer: It sounds metallic and buzzy.
[01:58] <majd> yeah it worked with i ran the same command in the terminal
[01:58] <Angel_Dex> Anyone play openduke?
[01:58] <Angel_Dex> plzzzzzzzzzness?
[01:59] <kejup> xst- still there?
[01:59] <Krillancello> kejup: Maybe the FBI came and raided his house.
[01:59] <saif> !javadebs
[01:59] <kejup> Krillacello - lol
[02:00] <LarstiQ> would anyone perchance know how to get compiz gconf keys when they aren't created by the package install?
[02:00] <soundray> kejup: maybe drop the hyphen
[02:00] <Krillancello> Aw, damn.
[02:00] <Krillancello> I missed my show.
[02:00] <kejup> sounday: does the hyphen kill the highlighting?
[02:00] <Krillancello> But then I was making dinner when it was on.
[02:00] <Krillancello> So that explains why.
[02:00] <soundray> Krillancello: were you supposed to watch or host it?
[02:00] <kejup> soundray- oops, I meant soundray
[02:01] <Krillancello> soundray: It's a TV show. Emperor of the Sea on AZNTV.
[02:01] <kejup> you guys have names that are too long
[02:01] <javiolo> I cant see dvds in ubuntu
[02:01] <javiolo> I tried totem and vlc player
[02:01] <javiolo> any thoughs ?
[02:01] <adub> how do you put a wireless card with atheros chipset into monitor mode
[02:01] <brenner> kejup- well, does this highlight?
[02:01] <kejup> javiolo: we were just talking about that
[02:01] <Krillancello> kejup: Lol. This has been my 'net persona/alias for at least a year now. And the full version is longer.
[02:01] <kejup> brenner- yes
[02:01] <clever`rev> javiolo you need to install a decrypting lubrary
[02:01] <javiolo> kejup sorry just came back
[02:01] <shiv> I think the only hinderance to switching to linux fully is the inability to install/uninstall by double clicks
[02:01] <brenner> kejup: same here.  i think you just scared him off :)
[02:01] <Kr4t05> !tell javiolo about dvd
[02:01] <javiolo> !dvd
[02:01] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:02] <canllaith> shiv: you should check out Klik if you're a KDE user =)
[02:02] <V4Vendetta> question: how much HD space do i need to reserve for ext3 ?
[02:02] <Angel_Dex> Anyone play openduke?
[02:02] <V4Vendetta> i'm using the program tune2fs.
[02:02] <clever`rev> i found a much easyer way
[02:02] <kejup> javiolo- well what we were talking about wouldn't have been helpful anyway.....we were just saying that DVDs don't work in ubuntu because it is illegal in the US
[02:02] <CarlFK> kejup: you know about 'tab completion' to fill in the rest of someone's nic?
[02:02] <wastrel> mikebot:  you want some sort of gnome menu editor - i don't know whether there's a stable one anymore - the old ones broke when gnome2 was released...
[02:02] <Jae686> US == fail?
[02:02] <clever`rev> there was some script i ran in ubuntu and it installed the stuff for me javiolo
[02:02] <_jason> shiv: that's possible, I'll just make an executable script that run gksudo apt-get install blah
[02:02] <clever`rev> forget where it was but i think an error in dvdcp told me
[02:02] <Krillancello> kejup: That's where opensource comes into the mix.
[02:02] <CarlFK> V4Vendetta: a full ubuntu install needs 3.5gig - is that wat you needed to know?
[02:02] <pbransford> how would i rename all the files in the current directory with an all lowercase equivalent?
[02:02] <shiv> I see
[02:02] <javiolo> but installing libdvdcss2 will solve the problem ?
[02:02] <shiv> thanks
[02:03] <V4Vendetta> CarlFK~ no, do you know what tune2fs is?
[02:03] <Kr4t05> javiolo: Should.
[02:03] <kejup> shiv- why do you say there is an inability to install/unstall by double clicks? you can do that
[02:03] <Krillancello> If you can't use their software (program, drivers, whatever) for free... make your own.
[02:03] <_jason> pbransford: rename command, 'man rename' has that example I believe
[02:03] <CarlFK> pbransford: hold please...
[02:03] <V4Vendetta> CarlFK~ man tune2fs
[02:03] <reds`> hello, I was wondering if someone could help me get my wireless connection up and running
[02:03] <kejup> carlfk- nope, how do I do it?
[02:03] <brenner> Jae686: at what?  democracy? winter olympics? or do you mean us as in a collective group? :-/
[02:03] <Kr4t05> reds
[02:03] <pbransford> rename y/A-Z/a-z/ *
[02:03] <reds`> Kr4t05: yes?
[02:03] <pbransford> found it
[02:03] <Kr4t05> !tell reds` about wireless
[02:03] <kejup> CarlFK, I figured it out, thanks
[02:04] <Jae686> US == weird software patent laws
[02:04] <Krillancello> The problem is it usually takes a long time to make a useable alternative if you can't even look at the original code (legally).
[02:04] <CarlFK> kejup: type Krill and hit 'tab'
[02:04] <clever`rev> !tell clever`rev about wireless
[02:04] <shiv> I was installing 855 resolution and even though I was in the directory it would not take the make command I failed to understand what was I doing wrong
[02:04] <pbransford> OK, what makes a file bold green in ls?
[02:04] <V4Vendetta> pbransford~ if it's executable.
[02:05] <kejup> Krillancello, you can write opensource software all you want, but it won't keep you out of court
[02:05] <javiolo> that repos will work over mac ppc ?
[02:05] <reds`> hmm
[02:05] <CarlFK> pbransford: this will force everything to UPPER: for file in *; do mv "$file" "${file}.temp.smallcaps"; mv "${file}.temp.smallcaps" "$(echo "$file" | tr a-z A-Z)"; done
[02:05] <CarlFK> so A-Z a-z should do what you asked for
[02:05] <reds`> I have the dlink 650+ and according to that site, it should work automatically, but it does not
[02:06] <Krillancello> kejup: If you make up your own code to do the same thing as someone else's code, and they can't prove you looked at theirs without them allowing you to, I don't think they can pursue a legal challenge.
[02:06] <reds`> pcmcia
[02:06] <V4Vendetta> Does anyone know in an ext3 filesystem, how much reserved_blocks you need in % ?
[02:06] <_jason> CarlFK: that's overkill when you have the rename command :)
[02:06] <bimberi> reds`: This page might be useful too - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:06] <babo> Hi guys, I guess this is a trivial question, but I keep geting a "command unrecognised : USER ..." when I try to log into my ftp host server. I've gone over the strigs numerous times, is there anything that I'm not thinking of ... ?
[02:06] <CarlFK> _jason: oh yeah... I think I heard about rename...
[02:06] <ithiel> hi
[02:06] <ithiel> I've got a Samsung A850 with Verizon service. Using my USB data cable, can I configure Linux to use this phone as a modem?
[02:06] <mikebot> wastrel, ah, okay, thanks
[02:06] <reds`> ty bimberi
[02:07] <CarlFK> reds`: I have a 650+ too.  It worked with hoary, but not with breezy.  if you give me an hour I can tell you if it works with dapper
[02:07] <bimberi> reds`: np :)
[02:07] <kejup> Krillancello, I think it depends if it is copyrighted or patented. If copyrighted you can mimic it, but if it is patented (like MP3 or DVD) then you can't. I'm not 100% sure though.
[02:07] <soundray> Krillancello: your position will be much better, though, if you can prove that you followed a 'clean-room' approach.
[02:07] <dli> babo, that's not a valid ftp command, try "help" in ftp
[02:07] <V4Vendetta> Does anyone know in an ext3 filesystem, how much reserved_blocks you need in % ?
[02:08] <Krillancello> soundray: Clean-room approach?
[02:08] <dli> V4Vendetta, by default 5% is reserved for inode tables
[02:08] <Keyframe> I had Hoary installed, I changed repository from hoary to breezy, did the update packgages from synaptic.. and then after reboot, GNOME failed on startup.. I did apt-get -f upgrade then (I think some pkgs weren't downloaded or something), then did apt-get install.. and now XSERVER won't run.. I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.. still no luck :D I'm downloading breezy install CD now.. damn laptop
[02:08] <V4Vendetta> dli~ thanks so 5% ?
[02:08] <kejup> Krillancello, Sony and Microsoft wouldn't be paying $20 royalties to make their videogame consoles play DVDs if they didn't have to (and I'm sure they are capable of rolling their own).
[02:08] <dli> V4Vendetta, yes, I think it's also 5% in reiserfs
[02:08] <V4Vendetta> dli~ Setting reserved blocks percentage to 5% (1916052 blocks)
[02:08] <V4Vendetta> dli~ thanks :-)
[02:08] <soundray> Krillancello: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design
[02:08] <ithiel> does anyone know if I will be able to configure my Samsung mobile as a USB modem?
[02:08] <babo> dli: but I'm using the fireFTP gui for firefox ?
[02:09] <babo> dli: how can it form invalid commands
[02:09] <babo> ?
[02:09] <themachine> how can I exit X before installing something?
[02:09] <dli> V4Vendetta, jfs don't reserve inode tables, it's more dynamic
[02:09] <soundray> ithiel: do a web search on your model name and 'linux'
[02:09] <themachine> I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers
[02:09] <babo> themachine: control + alt + backspace
[02:09] <V4Vendetta> dli~ i'm using ext3, do i need to reserve any?
[02:09] <dli> babo: try another client, it might be clear when you doing so
[02:09] <dli> V4Vendetta, mkfs does that for you
[02:09] <ithiel> soundray, that wouldn't be terribly helpful, lemme check it real quick
[02:10] <babo> dli: so is fireftp broken then or what ?
[02:10] <kejup> Hmmm, it seems that there is a lot of confusion on this issue. It would be nice if Ubuntu provided an official statement, informing the users of all the legal implications of MP3/DVD/etc. playback.
[02:10] <dli> babo, no idea, just use whatever works
[02:10] <SGershon> _jason,  it did not work
[02:10] <SGershon> :(
[02:10] <Keyframe> sorry for stupid questions, but how can I find out computers MAC address?
[02:10] <_jason> SGershon: still uses suse?
[02:10] <babo> dli: cool, thanks
[02:10] <soundray> Keyframe: ifconfig
[02:10] <sbalneav> Evening all
[02:10] <SGershon> _jason, yeah.
[02:10] <Keyframe> thanks
[02:10] <javiolo> is there any way to get libdvdcss2 ? cos using the SeveasPackages its only for i386 and I run a mac ppc
[02:10] <kejup> keyframe, run "ifconfig"
[02:10] <Krillancello> soundray: Interesting.
[02:10] <SGershon> I'm reading the page again
[02:11] <ithiel> soundray, yeah, not detecting the phone
[02:11] <Keyframe> is there a way to reinstall xserver? if so, how?
[02:12] <ithiel> soundray google is finding nothing relevant
[02:12] <sbalneav> Keyframe: Why would you need to do that?
[02:12] <kejup> Keyframe, why do you want to reinstall xserver?
[02:12] <soundray> Keyframe: 'apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg'. But probably you just want to 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[02:12] <jetscreamer> apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg maybe, but it's not going to be all the packages that x-window-system brings in
[02:12] <jetscreamer> what soundray said
[02:13] <Krillancello> Alrighty then... this laptop I have here is booting into a Ubuntu 'server' installation.
[02:13] <jetscreamer> how exciting!
[02:13] <reds`> I think I just broke my /etc/network/interfaces
[02:13] <babo> dli: what's the core ftp gui app for ubuntu ?
[02:13] <Keyframe> I tried dpkg-reconfigure .. but I start up laptop now and it says "I cannot start the X Server blahblahblah" even after -reconfigure
[02:13] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: idAudioHardwareALSA::Write: 4096 frames overflowed and dropped
[02:13] <soundray> ithiel: what's your phone model?
[02:13] <dstryr> http://pastebin.com/581231
[02:13] <dstryr> what's the prob?
[02:13] <Kr4t05> jetscreamer: Could that be it?
[02:13] <me2win> Keyframe:
[02:13] <bimberi> dli: nautilus, the file manager - Places -> Connect to Server
[02:13] <Krillancello> Now... suggestions for apt-get'ing just X and Gnome?
[02:14] <bimberi> er: babo ^^^ (sorry dli)
[02:14] <dli> babo: no idea, try lftp , which is not gui
[02:14] <stpere> hello everybody, does somebody knows some handwriting recognition software for linux?
[02:14] <mjr> Krillancello, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <Keyframe> it says would you like to view the X server output... yes no.. but screen is kinda garbled and I can't choose either :D
[02:14] <jetscreamer> Kr4t05: 'could' be. but i don't know much about other sound stuff, just what works for me. and mine hasn't broken like that, just the usual install blues kind.
[02:14] <ithiel> soundray, Samsung A850, Verizon  Service
[02:14] <reds`> any idea why wifi-radar doesn't pick up on any networks either?
[02:14] <Krillancello> mjr: ubuntu-desktop has too much bloat for me. It's the same as not doing the server install, so what's the point?
[02:14] <brenner> kejup: well, they do have: "Some of the packages listed here may be illegal in your country."  on the restricted wiki.  right after that, they have: "This page is not legal advice."  you're right though, maybe they should put out something on legal issues,
[02:14] <me2win> Keyframe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:14] <soundray> Keyframe: that output is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log too.
[02:15] <dstryr> what yall think?
[02:15] <dli> will ubuntu ship dvd for free? cd is too much squeezed
[02:15] <me2win> what?
[02:15] <ownerx> negative dli
[02:15] <Keyframe> I know.. I ran it now in recovery mode... lets see
[02:16] <me2win> you think that it will perform different if the data has more space to rest?
[02:16] <dli> ownerx, why not :( is dvd too expensive?
[02:16] <brenner> what does the dvd have that the cd doesn't ooi?
[02:16] <pbransford> anyone know of any good utilities like sidenet for setting up wine
[02:16] <reds`> I'm really gettin my ass whooped over here by this card. It takes about 2 1/2 minutes to activate the card
[02:16] <ithiel> soundray, catch that model?
[02:16] <me2win> dli: the cd and dvd are the same except that the dvd has the live version on it
[02:16] <soundray> ithiel: you could just connect it and see if it is registered as a modem (run lsusb).
[02:16] <me2win> so in essence, the DVD has more squeezed on it than the cd
[02:17] <soundray> ithiel: if that works, you can give it AT commands using minicom, probably through the device /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:17] <brenner> me2win: was that meant for me? thanks. :)
[02:17] <ownerx> dli im not even sure if the ubuntu dvd has more packages on it
[02:17] <stpere> any idea?
[02:17] <me2win> brenner: yeah heh
[02:17] <dli> me2win, after installation for a laptop, I found the cd has no hsfmodem driver, for a dvd, they can put all those drivers in
[02:18] <Keyframe> lol, it can't find any fonts in usr/share/X11/fonts/ .. how can this be
[02:18] <me2win> dli: they don't, it's just the live version packed in
[02:18] <dstryr> what's the cmd to know if you have missing updates or you have available updates to install
[02:18] <bimberi> not totally sure, but my understanding is that the dvd includes more (all?) of the main repository
[02:18] <pbransford> nevermind, found "winetools"
[02:19] <brenner> knoppix is still a cd distro though isn't it?  why can't ubuntu do what they did and make the live version installable?
[02:19] <stpere> brenner, it's what dapper will do
[02:19] <dli> ownerx,why not just follow the debian way, a complete set contains all packages
[02:19] <SGershon> _jason, ok... I'll try something else...
[02:19] <j1p> Has anyone had any success getting wireless networking to work with a Dell Latitude D610, it uses the Intel Pro Wireless 2915ABG Network Adapter
[02:19] <brenner> stpere: ah, nice.
[02:19] <reds`> j1p: I can't get any wireless working :(
[02:19] <ithiel> ok, soundray, it shows up as "Samsung Electronics" under lsusb
[02:19] <Kr4t05> Ack
[02:19] <dstryr> http://pastebin.com/581231
[02:19] <dstryr> what's the prob?
[02:19] <ithiel> soundray, now what am I doing?
[02:19] <dli> j1p, ipw2200 is in kernel, try to rebuild your kernel
[02:20] <Kr4t05> Where do I find the Multimedia Systems Selector in KDE?
[02:20] <kejup> brenner, It's been suggested before that perhaps they could simply make these things installable with a click through contract that says something like, "these packages are legal in my country". However, I think it was determined that Ubuntu could still be liable. So maybe instead they should have an html document on freshly installed ubuntu desktops titled, "why can't I play mp3s/dvds/etc". The only way this legal road block is
[02:20] <kejup> going to change is if people are aware of it. As it is it seems that many people are blaming ubuntu for the faults of the US government.
[02:20] <soundray> ithiel: 'sudo apt-get install minicom'
[02:20] <maudeeb> I can't view videos on www.ebaumsworld.com. I only have the native firefox.
[02:20] <j1p> dli, what would I have to do after recompiling the kernel to make it show up?
[02:21] <ithiel> soundray, now what?
[02:21] <basbryan> kejup: i like that idea
[02:21] <j1p> I just reinstalled breezy the other day, clean install off the Breezy Install CD
[02:21] <dli> j1p, before you recompile it, download the firmware for it
[02:21] <soundray> ithiel: then you'll have to read the docs in /usr/share/doc/minicom -- it's a bit involved, but you'll find out how to access the modem.
[02:21] <Kr4t05> Where do I find the Multimedia Systems Selector in KDE?
[02:21] <dli> j1p, I don't know whether ubuntu cd contains ipw2200-firmware, you may do "apt-cache search ipw2200"
[02:21] <me2win> Kr4t05: what do you mean?
[02:21] <crimsun> Kr4t05: there's no straight equivalent; use KDE System Settings
[02:22] <kejup> basbryan- good, perhaps we can find a good explaination somewhere on the wiki or in the forums and submit our suggestion to the developers.
[02:22] <crimsun> j1p: Ubuntu includes firmware for ipw*
[02:22] <mahaffey> hey can anyone help me, i'm pretty new to linux
[02:22] <soundray> j1p, there is a driver for that chipset, but it requires at least a 2.6.13 kernel.
[02:22] <dejx>  ah
[02:22] <_jason> mahaffey: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[02:22] <dejx> mahaffey, just ask a quiestion
[02:22] <dyrne> mahaffey: state you question if one of us can help we will
[02:22] <dli> crimsun, that's great, I hope they will do hsfmodem too :(
[02:22] <soundray> dli: I doubt it. hsfmodem is closed afaik.
[02:22] <reds`> Kr4t05: I'm still having some trouble
[02:22] <j1p> soundray, It had not worked on my previous kernel, 2.6.15, and it isnt working on my 2.6.12 now
[02:23] <brenner> kejup: *nod* i think you hit the nail on the head.
[02:23] <dli> soundray, a firmware is also closed :(
[02:23] <brenner> dstryr: what are you trying to do?
[02:23] <drakonan> Hey everyone, i've got a situation where when i leave the pc and come back after a while my display is corrupt, is there something i can do about that?
[02:23] <drakonan> maybe a shortcut key to refresh? this is the logon screen
[02:24] <dli> soundray, just consider, if the user has to download the network driver (modem, or nic), how stupid is this?
[02:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drakonan: If you've got no applications running, it might be safe to do ctrl+alt+backspace to reload the xserver.
[02:24] <bimberi> drakonan: does doing ctrl-alt-F1 then ctrl-alt-F7 help?
[02:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drakonan: That's a bit of a hack, though.
[02:24] <soundray> drakonan: this shouldn't happen of course, but try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to restart X.
[02:24] <majd> is there a way to navigate my windows partition in ubuntu?
[02:24] <Keyframe> if I wan't to apt-get something and it needs some dependencies.. is there a way to tell apt-get to get those dependecies also? thanks for your patience :>
[02:24] <_jason> Keyframe: it always does taht by default
[02:24] <kejup> brenner, maybe we can whip something up and submit it tonight? I really don't know enough about it to write anything myself. So I'm going to see what I can find on the forums/wiki. If any of you would like to look with me I'd appreciate it (maybe we can temporarily make a channel to organize ourselves).\
[02:25] <dli> majd, just mount it
[02:25] <echostorm> bah... anything like daemon tools that will run in gnome? I found something for KDE but im trying to learn one frontend at a time
[02:25] <soundray> dli: tell Intel, or whoever holds the rights to the modem firm-/software.
[02:25] <Keyframe> hmmm
[02:25] <kejup> basbryan- read my message to brenner
[02:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drakonan: Better to find out why it's getting messed... could be a driver issue (most likely if you have an ati card), or it could be messed horizsync/vertrefresh settings in xorg.conf (or some other messed up setting there.)
[02:25] <drakonan> might there be some way to fix it?  maybe it's going in to some suspent mode or something?
[02:25] <reds`> bah
[02:25] <echostorm> yes... bah!
[02:25] <reds`> I'm getting so frustrated :(
[02:25] <dyrne> majd: example: sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[02:26] <drakonan> ctrl+alt+backspace fixes it
[02:26] <_jason> oh a command
[02:26] <dli> soundray, I just mean, if there are available firmware or binary drivers, just include them in the installation disk
[02:26] <crouchingMonkey> how do i find and fix a broken package on my system?
[02:26] <CarlFK> soundray: some of those things have distribution licence issues
[02:26] <dli> crouchingMonkey, apt-get -f install
[02:27] <echostorm> i have a bin/cue i want to mount and this is definently an issue i need to figure out
[02:27] <soundray> CarlFK: don't tell me, I know about these things. Tell dli.
[02:27] <crimsun> echostorm: use bchunk to convert it to an iso, then mount the iso via loopback
[02:27] <dli> CarlFK, hsfmodem has no such restrict, gentoo has the hsfmodem package
[02:27] <crouchingMonkey> ty dli
[02:27] <Wammy|> echostorm, here sec, i know what you need
[02:28] <Wammy|> echostorm, google for cdemu
[02:28] <majd> dyrne, mount: mount point /mnt/hda1 does not exist
[02:28] <Bubben> how do I update the kernel to the latest .. it is only to download the upgrade packages?
[02:28] <dli> crouchingMonkey, or, dpkg --configure -a
[02:28] <majd> is there an idiot proof tutorial on this?
[02:28] <Wammy|> its like daemontools or w/e to mount bin/cue
[02:28] <Wammy|> kernel driver.
[02:28] <echostorm> ahh thanx :) crimson, yeah i researched that method but converting everything i need to use iseems an unnecasary step.
[02:29] <dli> majd, I thought ubunt could auto mont windows partitions for you
[02:29] <dstryr> http://pastebin.com/581231
[02:29] <Keyframe> what's the name of partition utilty that starts up when installing hoary? damn
[02:29] <dstryr> what's the prob?
[02:29] <themachine> how can I check if I properly installed my nvidia drivers?
[02:29] <majd> :-O it worked :) i followed http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_manually_update_Ubuntu
[02:29] <dyrne> majd: you will have to type sudo fdisk -l it will list your partions one should be type ntfs. the hda1 was just an example
[02:29] <Wammy|> themachine, if you saw the nvidia logo when x started
[02:29] <soundray> dli, if gentoo distributes hsfmodem, it doesn't necessarily follow that ubuntu can, too.
[02:29] <themachine> yea I saw it, thanks
[02:29] <majd> dyrne, i did: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[02:30] <majd> first i created /media/windows
[02:30] <bimberi> Keyframe: might be 'partman' ?
[02:30] <mikebot> anyone know why mouse3 sometimes opens weird links when i'm trying to scroll?
[02:30] <crimsun> dli: neither Debian nor Ubuntu package the hsfmodem drivers. They are decidedly non-free.
[02:31] <soundray> crimsun: so are ATI and NVidia drivers...
[02:31] <dli> crimsun, debian stays close to free, but I thought ubuntu would be more user friendly
[02:31] <crimsun> soundray: ATI and Nvidia provide redistribution allowances in their licenses.
[02:31] <echostorm> Wammy: thats exactly what i needed thanx
[02:31] <crimsun> Linuxant does not provide any such allowance.
[02:32] <Keyframe> hmmm can't remember my partition config.. I did fdisk -l.. I know I have one for boot, one for home, one for usr, swap, I think one is for var also - is that ok?
[02:32] <soundray> dli, do hsfmodem copyright holders explicitly allow redistribution?
[02:32] <drakonan> the corruption is occurring on a via vt8366/a/7 apollo onboard video card
[02:32] <brenner> kejup: i'm not much of a lawyer either, so i doubt i'd be of much use.  but i'm all for the concept of the idea of a click-through disclaimer/help-system on first install.  unfortunately, i don't think dapper will include something like that, so i guess we'll have to make do with a wiki page on the topic.
[02:33] <dli> soundray, I know in gentoo, there's no download restriction, and it downloads from a gentoo mirror
[02:33] <babo> bimberi: cheers
[02:33] <bimberi> babo: yw :)
[02:34] <crimsun> dli: keep in mind both Debian and Ubuntu offer slmodem package variants
[02:34] <dang`r`us> I get a silly error message when trying to modprobe fglrx: *ERROR* Unable to the open some already present DRM kernel module!
[02:34] <dang`r`us> what can I do?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> is direct rendering a sure fire way to tell if 3d is working?
[02:34] <soundray> dli: that doesn't answer the question. I don't mean that you have to look it up, but the argument is moot until you know exactly what the redistribution policy is.
[02:34] <brenner> kejup: anyway, i'm off.   good luck.
[02:34] <dli> soundray, I checked the license, it's okay to redistribute the free version
[02:34] <dli> soundray, Redistribution. Redistribution of this software is only permitted for exact copies (without modification) of versions explicitly marked and officially released by Linuxant with the word "free" in their name. Redistribution or disclosure of other versions, derivatives or license key information is expressly prohibited without explicit written approval signed by an authorized Linuxant officer.
[02:35] <gnomefreak> thats in the gpl
[02:35] <dli> crimsun, would slmodem drivers an hsf?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> iirc
[02:36] <Krillancello> For some reason, Ubuntu likes to display the console larger than my laptop's monitor can display.
[02:36] <Krillancello> Vertically, that is.
[02:36] <soundray> dli: excellent. You could file a wishlist bug against the linux-restricted-modules package then.
[02:36] <Jae686> Krillancello, press ctrl + -
[02:37] <Krillancello> Jae686: I'm not running a GUI. I did a server install and have yet to install any packages.
[02:37] <Jae686> oh
[02:38] <Keyframe> is it possible to have partitions somewhat like this: one where ubuntu is, one where programs are, one where /home user files are, one for var and one for swap? So that if I wish to install another distribution (ubuntu or something else) programs and user files would be unaffacted? is this a good idea? any suggestions? I have 40GB hard drive on my laptop.. about to install breezy
[02:38] <AngryElf> has anyone had any success with the Apple Airport drivers that are out?
[02:38] <Jambon> yo, I just did an update on dapper, and now my resolution is stuck at 640x480 and 60hz and it won't change
[02:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jambon about fixres
[02:39] <wastrel> Keyframe:  usually /home   can be on a separate partition, but programs are tied too closely to the rest of the OS to be split out & shared
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Jambon: read that see if it fixes it and btw its in testing so please dont be alarmed when it breaks
[02:39] <wastrel> Keyframe:  you can share swap also
[02:39] <joeljkp> i'm looking for a way to tell alsa to set /dev/dsp to my 2nd sound card
[02:39] <joeljkp> anyone know how?
[02:39] <jrsims> anyone having trouble installing cpan?
[02:40] <cedriczg> hi everybody
[02:40] <Jambon> gnomefreak: after all the distros i've been through in the last few weeks not much could alarm me
[02:40] <Keyframe> wastrel: so what do you suggest, how should I partition my hard drive if I want to upgrade to dapper later or try out some other distro?
[02:40] <Engla> canllaith: welcome to ubuntu then. Which distro did you come from?
[02:40] <cedriczg> I want to run an app from an icon on my panel
[02:40] <gnomefreak> Jambon: good
[02:40] <Krillancello> There are 25 lines which display on the monitor, but the console displays 30 lines.
[02:40] <Krillancello> Anyone know of a way to fix this?
[02:40] <cedriczg> But how to execute two commands at the same time
[02:40] <canllaith> Engla: slackware
[02:40] <SGershon> :( Nothing yet.
[02:40] <Krillancello> cedriczg: Try <command1> && <command2>
[02:41] <cedriczg> My case: I want to execute like export LANGUAGE=en; eboard
[02:41] <cedriczg> oh
[02:41] <dli> joeljkp, you can do that, but I prefer to remove those dummy or modem cards before the real one
[02:41] <gnomefreak> cedriczg: right click panel add custom launcher and fill in the blanks but make sure what you put in the command line part is the command to launch it from term
[02:41] <canllaith> Engla: I still run slackware on my desktop, but wanted to try a debian on my laptop for the convenience of apt-getting any apps I might want rather than compiling them :)
[02:41] <SGershon> I need help setting my GRUB. Any volunteer?
[02:41] <ithiel_> soundray: still no luck, can I just point minicom to my phone's /dev file and get it to work?
[02:41] <dli> SGershon, state your problem
[02:41] <joeljkp> dli: what do you mean?
[02:41] <cedriczg> gnomefreak, between commands I have to pu && ?
[02:41] <Engla> canllaith: I hope you like apt-get
[02:41] <Krillancello> Can anyone help me fix my console?
[02:41] <canllaith> I often need to install lots of strange very new applications for my work and it was getting a little difficult to compile some of them
[02:41] <gnomefreak> cedriczg: what are you trying to run from launcher?
[02:42] <Engla> canllaith: I certainly like it, but I've never used anything else. Even on osx I used apt-get
[02:42] <canllaith> Engla: frankly, right now I hate everything about it - but I hate every operating system, I'm very fair and unbiased about that.
[02:42] <Engla> hehe
[02:42] <ithiel_> which usb device is Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:6640 ?
[02:42] <dstryr> http://pastebin.com/581231
[02:42] <dstryr> what's the prob?
[02:42] <cedriczg> gnomefreak, I want to set a variable and the launch the prog eboard
[02:42] <Engla> and that's why you like slackware, because you can't hate yourself? ;-)
[02:42] <Rob_Dude> I've never used OSX but I think it sounds pretty cool
[02:42] <reds`> ok, so I put all the correct info into the wireless configuration window, and it takes a few moments to activate, and once it does I'm still not online
[02:42] <Engla> Rob_Dude: osx is pretty cool. But so is ubuntu
[02:42] <canllaith> I have an emac, and my b/f has an iBook. We both hate OSX :)
[02:42] <wastrel> Keyframe:  maybe 10-15 gb for /home (depending on how much video/music you need to keep there)  5-7 for 2 different distros, a couple hundred MB for swap and you should be OK :] 
[02:42] <rob> bah
[02:42] <cedriczg> gnomefreak, In terminal I run export LABGUAGE=en     end then    eboard
[02:42] <Keyframe> Rob_Dude: It is, but freezes alot
[02:43] <gnomefreak> cedriczg: that i dont know normally for multi things like that i make a bash script and run the script as a command for launcher
[02:43] <Engla> canllaith: I switched completely just recently. But I really love osx
[02:43] <Engla> canllaith: but I switched completely to ubuntu
[02:43] <Rob_Dude> I'm not trying to start a flame or anything; but I'm a bit disappointed with ubuntu.  I'm hoping it's just me being clueless
[02:43] <canllaith> Engla: I kinda have a bit of everything as far as operating systems goes
[02:43] <SGershon> When installing Suse, it overwrote my grub loader on MBR with its own grub loader on MBR (or: the grub loader on MBR now looks at Suse's conf instead of Ubuntu's conf). How can I return it?
[02:43] <cedriczg> gnomefreak, so how do I make a so simple script?
[02:43] <canllaith> but my laptop I use 90% of the time and that's what I put Ubuntu on
[02:43] <SGershon> dli, that's it (above).
[02:43] <canllaith> Well,  Kubuntu really
[02:43] <reds`> any ideas why I'm still unable to go online?
[02:43] <Engla> oh noes
[02:43] <gnomefreak> Rob_Dude: no offence but most of the time people hate ubuntu is because they have a simple issue and cant fix it
[02:44] <soundray> ithiel_: what /dev/ file have you tried?
[02:44] <Engla> gnomefreak: but that's the thing. I did that for a week, and now I love ubuntu again because I fixed an issue (I had myself to blame)
[02:44] <lakcaj> Rob_Dude, what do you expect it to do?  It's an operating system - it only gets so exciting
[02:44] <gnomefreak> cedriczg: read the abs manual in synaptic for basics
[02:44] <dli> SGershon, boot ubuntu (you can do that manually in grub), and mount /boot, and vi /boot/grub/grub.conf
[02:44] <cedriczg> gnomefreak, ok thanx
[02:44] <Rob_Dude> gnomefreak:  Nah, that makes a lot of sense.  I think part of it too is that you get used to whatever you are used to and any feature that is missing seems like a big deal
[02:44] <Engla> Rob_Dude: what did you expect, and what do you want?
[02:44] <Engla> Rob_Dude: tell us what you want to do with it
[02:44] <dli> SGershon, add your ubuntu entry
[02:44] <gnomefreak> Engla: most peopel do because they expect it to be like windows
[02:44] <Keyframe> wastrel: 8 for ubuntu and programs, 1 for swap, 1 for var and 30 for /home.. does that sound ok?
[02:45] <Kratos> Ick
[02:45] <Kratos> lag
[02:45] <babo> Hi, I'm accessing a php file over ftp ... I right click the file properties and set the opening application to bluefish. However when I click on the file, it still opens with gedit. I don't want to edit php in gedit ... what should I do ?
[02:45] <Kratos> wtf....
[02:45] <Rob_Dude> Even though plenty of other features are included that you didn't have before - but you don't even know what they are ;P
[02:45] <SGershon> dli, I can load ubuntu without problems.
[02:45] <rob> w00t for crappy highlighting!
[02:45] <wastrel> Keyframe:  i thought you said you wanted to have a 2nd OS on there?  but yes that would be fine... my / is about 4GB currently :] 
[02:45] <dli> Keyframe, I want 1 /boot of 100MB on jfs, and all other goes to /
[02:45] <Rob_Dude> Engla:  Honestly, I've heard, many times, that Linux is no longer user-unfriendly and that the install/setup is just as easy as Windows.
[02:45] <drakonan> hey, can ubuntu act like a windows DC?
[02:45] <Krillancello> Can anyone help me fix my console?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ok i need a sure fire way to test 3d accel how would i do this my fps are 2000 and yes to direct rendering would like to test now
[02:45] <Rob_Dude> And, don't get me wrong - it has come a long way, and it's very impressive in it's own right
[02:45] <SGershon> I just want to replace Suse's grub with Ubuntu's.
[02:46] <Engla> Rob_Dude: there is some truth in that. yes, I agree
[02:46] <dli> Krillancello, are you using framebuffer?
[02:46] <Keyframe> dli: what do you mean? you have only two parts?
[02:46] <ericmoritz\0> if I have a dynamically linked binary, is there any tricks to turn it into a static one?
[02:46] <Krillancello> dli: Not sure, I just finished the Ubuntu server install.
[02:46] <Keyframe> wastrel: on second thought maybe var should be bigger for apache and mysql...
[02:46] <dli> SGershon, in ubuntu, try, to mv /boot/grub/grub.conf /root/grub.conf.suse, and run "update-grub"
[02:46] <Keyframe> ah damnit :)
[02:46] <soundray> SGershon: run sudo grub-install /dev/hda (if /dev/hda is the drive that you boot from).
[02:46] <Rob_Dude> But, for example; countless times I've been told about how cool OpenOffice is and how it works as good, if not better than Office.  And, I agree that OpenOffice is awesome; but I was expecting it to be able to open .xls files (and it does...but it doesn't open *my* .xls files, lol.  I'm a nerd and I love charts, so I've got about 30 of em)
[02:46] <babo> Can anyone help me on my file opening problem  ?
[02:46] <Krillancello> It probably is using the framebuffer, but I don't know for sure.
[02:47] <Rob_Dude> and nearly all of them crash OpenOffice - even if I disable macros
[02:47] <dli> Keyframe, yes, because it's a laptop, I don't even use swap
[02:47] <Rob_Dude> Yeah, it is all little things; but I'm hoping in time I'll fix them
[02:47] <Keyframe> dli: and you don't have problems?
[02:47] <wastrel> Keyframe:  i dunno - i just run a desktop system.  my /var is about 250 MB
[02:48] <dli> Krillancello, try to check what's in grub command line, disable any option except, root=
[02:48] <gnomefreak> the base or processor should open the .xls files
[02:48] <soundray> Rob_Dude: you may have more luck with xls files in gnumeric.
[02:48] <_trick> is openldap supposed to work on ubuntu
[02:48] <Engla> Rob_Dude: I understand that the OOo issue is no fun.. there is not really an alternative, so OOo has to work! it's not a small thing either
[02:48] <Rob_Dude> Or, if I just started from scratch all my .xls files would be created and work great in OpenOffice - and not work in Windows - so really it's not a problem with 'Linux' or 'Ubuntu'
[02:48] <dli> Keyframe, of course
[02:48] <_trick> I've tride several times, and I keep on getting db errors
[02:48] <dli> Keyframe, but, you should have swap for a desktop
[02:48] <AngryElf> how do I make gnome, or gaim, whichever it would be.....remember the position and size of the main gaim window whenever it loads?
[02:48] <_trick> db4.2_recover not found
[02:48] <Bratsche> Hello everyone.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Rob_Dude: check with synaptic if those dont open it there is an add-on for it im sure
[02:49] <Belboz99> Hey, what is the directory bit?  And how do I enable it?
[02:49] <Keyframe> dli: I ask for a laptop.. what should I configure partitions too.. it's a system for php/mysql and c++ dev.. I'm not smart about it :)
[02:49] <IdleOne> !repos
[02:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:49] <gnomefreak> directory bit?????
[02:50] <dli> Keyframe, if you have 1GB+ ram, you can safely disable swap
[02:50] <gnomefreak> a directory is where folders are stored
[02:50] <Rob_Dude> Yeah - this weekend I've got a 'ToDo' list to learn/figure out/configure correctly whatever I need to fix issues like that.
[02:50] <dooglus> Belboz99: do you mean the 'sticky bit'?
[02:50] <Krillancello> dli: The only kernel options grub had were ro, quiet and splash. I removed splash and am rebooting now.
[02:50] <Keyframe> dli: I'll leave it on.. it has 512 megs.. I'll make a swap partition of 1GB so I can rest :)
[02:50] <dli> Keyframe, it's for developpment, I would go with a 100MB /boot, and the rest /
[02:51] <Bratsche> I have a quick question: A live CD should boot right from a restart, correct?
[02:51] <Rob_Dude> Getting my mp3 player to work is gonna be the hardest I think :)  But time will tell...
[02:51] <wastrel> Rob_Dude:  try gnumeric for you .xls files maybe
[02:51] <wastrel> (.xls is excel right?)
[02:51] <SGershon> soundray, I don't have a /dev/hda, but my ubuntu is at /dev/sda5
[02:51] <javiolo> any ftp with gui ?
[02:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bratsche: If you have the cd set to boot before the HDD in the BIOS, then yes.
[02:51] <Belboz99> dooglus, no I mean the directory bit
[02:51] <Rob_Dude> Yeah .xls is excel - and ty, I'll give it a shot
[02:51] <javiolo> any ftp client with gui ?
[02:51] <Keyframe> dli: And what if I wanted to install Dapper afterwards?
[02:51] <dli> Keyframe, no problem with a small swap
[02:51] <Engla> Bratsche: yes, if I understand that right. You just have to make your bios boot from the cd
[02:51] <SGershon> soundray, sda and hda stand for the same meaning?
[02:51] <babo> I can't seem to edit any of my ftp file on my local computer. All I get is permissions cannot be determined. Also they won't open in bluefish by default, only in gedit ?? help ??
[02:51] <Bratsche> PuMpErNiCkLe: So, I have to mess around in the bios first?
[02:51] <soundray> SGershon: run sudo grub-install /dev/sda then
[02:51] <khafra> quicktime for firefox?
[02:51] <dooglus> Belboz99: where did you hear of this 'directory bit'?
[02:51] <Belboz99> dooglus: I was changing ownership of a directory and somehow the directory turned into a file
[02:52] <Belboz99> I need it changed back into a directory
[02:52] <soundray> SGershon: /dev/hda is used for IDE and most SATA devices. /dev/sda is used for SCSI and some SATA disks.
[02:52] <Amaranth> Belboz99: That's not really possible.
[02:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bratsche: Just to check the boot order... you may have to set it to check teh CD before teh harddrive, but that's it.
[02:52] <khafra> I installed vlc, but it doesn't seem to work
[02:52] <Engla> Belboz99: that sounds very wrong
[02:52] <dli> Keyframe, I'm not a developper :( for me, vim, gcc, gdb, valgrind, ddd, ...
[02:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/teh/the/g
[02:52] <dooglus> Belboz99: how were you changing owners?
[02:52] <Amaranth> Belboz99: That's file system corruption, nothing you can fix.
[02:52] <Rob_Dude> On the other hand...I *love* having multiple desktops, the software repositories and tabbed browsing.  And VMware,.  Those are all awesome :P  And the multiple terminals
[02:52] <gnomefreak> valgrid is a browser no?
[02:53] <dli> Keyframe, or you want xemacs, and some cvs, which I don't know anything about
[02:53] <babo> no-one can help ??
[02:53] <Belboz99> dooglus, I can't dig up the exact command I used, but I was using chown dan /fold
[02:53] <gnomefreak> valgrind*
[02:53] <Bratsche> PuMpErNiCkLe: Ok, well thanks. I think I'm fast becoming a Ubuntu convert, at least, if I can get it to work. ;)
[02:53] <SGershon> Ok.
[02:53] <Amaranth> valgrind is a development tool
[02:53] <SGershon> I'll try it now.
[02:53] <dli> gnomefreak, no, valgrind is a memory debugger
[02:53] <Belboz99> it's possible I screwed up and used chmod instead
[02:53] <Krillancello> Now... on to my main concern...
[02:53] <SGershon> soundray, dli, _jason, see you after reboot.
[02:53] <dooglus> Belboz99: chown should never make a directory turn into a file.  it does sound like your filesystem is screwed up like Amaranth said.
[02:53] <gnomefreak> in repos by chance? im always looking for cooler devel tools
[02:53] <Belboz99> but trust me, this file was a directory
[02:54] <dooglus> Belboz99: even if you "chmod" instead of "chown", there's no bit which determines whether it's a file or a directory...
[02:54] <Keyframe> dli: nah, actually I really don't know what I wan't with partitions
[02:54] <dli> Krillancello, why using framebuffer, it's slower :( and causing trouble for n00bs
[02:54] <vook> what process is it at boot that mounts the tmpfs filesystems (/dev, /dev/pts, /dev/shm, & /lib/modules/$kernelver/volatile), and /sys?
[02:54] <dooglus> Belboz99: I trust you.  But trust me, there's no way to "chmod" a directory to turn it into a file.
[02:54] <Keyframe> dli: I will run php/mysql and gcc.. I have 40GB's of hard drive..and want to be safe if I wan't to switch to dapper later
[02:54] <Belboz99> dooglus, my Linux professor said there was a bit that set it to directory
[02:54] <hyphenated> Belboz99: yes, but it's not something you can change
[02:54] <dli> Keyframe, In past, I use /boot, /usr, /home, /
[02:54] <Belboz99> he never told us which bit it was though
[02:54] <gnomefreak> it looks kdeish :(
[02:55] <_trick> ah, I guess the slapd package is missing a dep
[02:55] <dooglus> Belboz99: it's not a bit which is accessible with chmod
[02:55] <ithiel_> soundray, haven't tried any dev file because I don't know what Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:6640 is
[02:55] <_trick> db4.2_utils
[02:55] <Engla> Belboz99: how do  you see that it's a file?
[02:55] <Keyframe> dli: how about var?
[02:55] <dli> Keyframe, nowadays, I don't reinstall without a backup, I go with /boot /
[02:55] <Belboz99> okay, so if my file system is screwed, how do I fix that?
[02:55] <Jambon> i just ran easyubuntu on dapper, and got this error message in the terminal when i ran it: IOError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/icons/default.xpm'
[02:55] <Belboz99> -rw-r--r--    1 root root     62 2005-12-03 00:42 fold
[02:55] <dli> Keyframe, for servers only, security concerns, not for your own desktop
[02:55] <soundray> vook, run a 'grep tmpfs /etc/init.d/*' to get an impression how things play together.
[02:55] <Belboz99> that file was a directory
[02:55] <hyphenated> Belboz99: fsck
[02:55] <crouchingMonkey> is there a limewire for linux ?
[02:55] <Jambon> did the update fail or just the firefox icon?
[02:56] <Jambon> crouchingMonkey:  yes
[02:56] <soundray> ithiel_: you don't need to know. Try /dev/ttyUSB0
[02:56] <Belboz99> I can still see it and browse the files in it over the network
[02:56] <dli> Keyframe, indeed, it's sensiless for me to have a /var for desktop
[02:56] <khafra> I'm using AMD64 Ubuntu and linux32 for 32 bit programs, like firefox and its plugins.  If I want to install vlc to the 32 bit firefox, not the 64 bit, how do I make the debian package do that?
[02:56] <javiolo> any ftp client with gui ?
[02:56] <dooglus> Belboz99: there are 12 bits which chmod can affect.  3 reads, 3 writes, 3 executes, setuid, setgid and sticky.
[02:56] <Unity> can someone quickly explain why there k and k^5 have the same unit's digit?
[02:56] <stpere> crouchingMonkey, of course
[02:56] <Keyframe> dli.. I see.. because I always run apache in same config as my server with var/html.. heh I'll change that then
[02:56] <Kr4t05> gah
[02:56] <Unity> oops wrong window
[02:56] <Belboz99> and in fact, some software is running from it right now
[02:56] <gnomefreak> alot of things dont work in dapper
[02:56] <gnomefreak> it is getting better tho :)
[02:56] <soundray> gnomefreak: like Openoffice :(
[02:56] <dli> Keyframe, apache doesn't care /var is a dir or partition
[02:57] <gnomefreak> my OOO works great
[02:57] <dooglus> Belboz99: can I suggest you back it up (into a tar archive or similar) as soon as possible?
[02:57] <dooglus> Belboz99: it's quite possible that as soon as the software which is using it stops using it, the contents will become unavailable.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> soundray: did you install the OOo updates this afternoon that were being held back?
[02:57] <Keyframe> ok, I'll make boot partition, swap and / .. just to be safe for swap ;) How much should boot be?
[02:57] <D[a] > Yo.
[02:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: yes. But it may be different, because I'm on amd64
[02:58] <wastrel> javiolo:  gftp
[02:58] <D[a] > I have the drivers for win32 on my ubuntu box cuz it says that it doesnt support linux on their site, but the linux site says it does take it.
[02:58] <Belboz99> hyphenated: , how do I run fsck with the drive unmounted?
[02:58] <dli> Keyframe, 100 MB is more than enough
[02:58] <D[a] > hrm..
[02:58] <D[a] > It's a D-link G510 atherois chipset
[02:58] <cedriczg> gnomefreak, well I finally did the script and it worked marvelously. Thank you v m
[02:58] <gnomefreak> soundray: yeah ive heard that with 64bit
[02:58] <gnomefreak> yw ced
[02:58] <Keyframe> dli: thanks dude :)
[02:58] <hyphenated> Belboz99: fsck /partition
[02:58] <javiolo> wastrel thanks!
[02:58] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:58] <soundray> gnomefreak: enjoy your smoke
[02:59] <Wammy|> hyphenated, as far as i remeber your not supposed to fsck a mounted partition
[02:59] <dli> Keyframe, I like jfs on /boot, however, standard is ext2
[02:59] <Belboz99> hyphenated: , I mean, the entire partition is the one that root is in
[02:59] <D[a] > hrm
[02:59] <D[a] > Uh.
[02:59] <D[a] > dli or soundray
[02:59] <Keyframe> dli: any particular reason?
[02:59] <D[a] > I have the drivers for win32 on my ubuntu box cuz it says that it doesnt support linux on their site, but the linux site says it does take it. | It's a D-link G510 atherois chipset | What do I do with the .sys and the .inf or whatever? I remember seeing on forums somewhere to put it somewhere, but I have no clue where.......
[02:59] <Belboz99> hyphenated:  do I have to reboot into a restore mode or something?
[02:59] <ithiel_> soundray: device doesn't exist. try to remember that the samsung doesn't explicitly identify itself as a modem, I just tell it to do so
[02:59] <hyphenated> Wammy|: indeed, it's not a good idea :-)
[02:59] <hyphenated> Belboz99: rescue mode, yeah
[02:59] <hyphenated> or use a live cd
[02:59] <dli> Keyframe, no such boring fsck.ext2 on booting
[03:00] <Belboz99> oops, I meant rescue
[03:00] <Keyframe> hehe
[03:00] <ithiel_> soundray, no USB devices (seemingly) in /dev, and certainly no ttyUSB0. I'll doublecheck GUI configs, but otherwise not getting much ---> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04e8:6640 ????
[03:00] <Wammy|> hey so does anyone want to take my offer for $30 + free webhosting/gameserver to get my sound card working?
[03:00] <D[a] > lmao
[03:00] <soundray> ithiel_: well it was worth trying. It may be that your phone just isn't supported, though.
[03:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol Wammy|
[03:00] <sbalneav> D[a] : google for ndiswrapper + ubuntu
[03:00] <dli> Keyframe, jfs is supported by grub, but you will need jfs support in kernel too, go ext2, if you are not sure about it
[03:00] <gnomefreak> i always do :)
[03:00] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:00] <Wammy|> Ive been dealing with this for the past 48 hours, i only slept like 5 hours today
[03:00] <D[a] > i tried
[03:01] <D[a] > apt-get install ndiswrapper-tools
[03:01] <ithiel_> soundray: you do realize that my attempted use of this phone nears the bizarre, and that default support is near nil, right?
[03:01] <Keyframe> dli: yeah I'm not - I'll go all the way with ext2 I guess
[03:01] <D[a] > but it said something aobut being too outdated and needing to get th newest version
[03:01] <D[a] > I HAVE NO CLUE.
[03:01] <sbalneav> D[a] : Well, that was self evident.
[03:01] <D[a] > Obviously.
[03:01] <gnomefreak> if i can view a 3d screensaver does that mean my 3d works?
[03:01] <crouchingMonkey> any instructions out there on how to install limewire on ubuntu ?
[03:01] <D[a] > sbalneav do you happen to hnave htat link on the forums?
[03:01] <Jambon> does easy ubuntu work with dapper?
[03:01] <D[a] > I have the .inf and .sys it says it needed
[03:02] <sbalneav> D[a] : does this machine have a WIRED connection in it?
[03:02] <soundray> ithiel_: are you getting angry now? Take it out on Samsung for not supporting Linux, please.
[03:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell crouchingMonkey about limewire
[03:02] <sbalneav> Like an ethernet interface?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> crouchingMonkey: in your pm :)
[03:02] <Celeste> hi
[03:02] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:02] <D[a] > no
[03:02] <Celeste> what Xorg version does ubuntu use, please?
[03:02] <D[a] > Wireless.
[03:02] <D[a] > Only way it can be done.
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Jambon: not sure dapper is in testing stages
[03:02] <gnomefreak> Celeste: breezy uses 6.8
[03:03] <Celeste> thank you gnomefreak
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ^^^latest stable release
[03:03] <Jambon> anyone here used xgl on a i810?
[03:03] <Celeste> cool ... thank you
[03:03] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:03] <sbalneav> D[a] : Baloney.  What, you can't PUT an ethernet card in it TEMPORARILY so you can update the ndiswrapper-tools?
[03:03] <samisad0rk> hey im having probs gettin ubuntu live to run on my computer, can anyone help?
[03:03] <sbalneav> You can't BORROW a usb ethernet adapter somewhere?
[03:04] <gabriel> hi...?
[03:04] <soundray> samisad0rk: describe the problem.
[03:04] <theshibboleth> how do I find out what sound card I'm using?
[03:04] <wastrel> hi gabriel
[03:04] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:04] <D[a] > no
[03:04] <Wammy|> no one to take my offer?
[03:04] <D[a] > i can't.
[03:04] <gnomefreak> theshibboleth: lspci
[03:04] <ithiel_> soundray: sigh, thx anyways.
[03:04] <D[a] > only way to do is wirelessly.
[03:04] <Kr4t05> !twinview
[03:04] <ubotu> Kr4t05: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:04] <Kr4t05> ...
[03:04] <sbalneav> D[a] : And why would that be?
[03:04] <ithiel_> soundray: samsung doesn't support windows either, or mac for that matter
[03:04] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:04] <Kr4t05> that needs to be in the bot.
[03:04] <D[a] > i can't exactly wire a cable
[03:05] <Kr4t05> twinview needs to be in the bot ><
[03:05] <samisad0rk> when it goes to boot it seems like its going then gets stuck on this message "kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!
[03:05] <D[a] > through a wall
[03:05] <Kr4t05> dammit.
[03:05] <D[a] > with a solid ceiling
[03:05] <D[a] > etc.
[03:05] <wastrel> !enter
[03:05] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:05] <sbalneav> How about moving the machine for a bit?
[03:05] <soundray> ithiel_: *hrm* motorola
[03:05] <theshibboleth> gnomefreak:thanks
[03:05] <vook> anyone have an idea what would cause none of the tmpfs filesystems to mount (I went from breezy to dapper and back to breezy (I know, bad idea, but everything works except the tmpfs filesystems, and I've had this happen before))
[03:05] <ithiel_> soundray: I don't think you properly comprehend what it is I am doing with my phone, it is a completely unsupported feature/ability. It took 2 hours just to get working on Windows, if that gives you any sense of scale
[03:05] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:05] <D[a] > I can't.
[03:05] <D[a] > It's fixed in place.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> theshibboleth: yw
[03:05] <D[a] > Can't you just help me get it done wirelessly, pete's sake.
[03:05] <wastrel> !tell D[a]  about enter
[03:05] <soundray> ithiel_: this is the third time you are alluding to my limited comprehension. Thank you, our discussion is over.
[03:05] <Rob_Dude> I'm a big fan of the 'enter pause.  You know ya just sorta
[03:05] <ithiel_> soundray: my phone is fine. as for motorola, they weren't an option where I got my wireless plan at. otherwise I would've chosen one. I have no qualms with the terms of my contract, it's a good plan with tons of free minutes
[03:06] <sbalneav> How can I help you get it done wirelessly when we can't get the bit installed?
[03:06] <Rob_Dude> Hit enter, and it's like a SUPER comma :)
[03:06] <sbalneav> You need to update your ndiswrapper-tools.
[03:06] <ithiel_> my wireless still doesn't bloody work
[03:06] <ithiel_> gah.
[03:06] <theshibboleth> I need help getting sound to work with a nvidia audio card in 3d games
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ithiel_: sending the signal through your phone or a wireless card ?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> i didnt know nvidia made sound cards
[03:07] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:07] <D[a] > requires internet eh?
[03:07] <D[a] > what if i download madwifi
[03:07] <D[a] > willl that help?
[03:08] <shiv> is it possible to move the cursor to default button as in windows mouse controls?
[03:08] <trincamckee> i there
[03:08] <sbalneav> and how are you going to download it onto the box when you just told me there was no way to get ndiswrappers-tools updated?
[03:08] <ithiel_> gnomefreak I've given up on my phone for the time being, wireless still isn't working
[03:08] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:08] <D[a] > through a CD
[03:09] <gnomefreak> wireless in ubuntu?
[03:09] <D[a] > eayea
[03:09] <D[a] > yea
[03:09] <progrock> whats the command to remove a folder and all its contents? (in the terminal)
[03:09] <D[a] > rm -rf
[03:09] <gnomefreak> rm
[03:09] <D[a] > rm -rf directory /file
[03:09] <sbalneav> D[a] : then why not download the ndiswrapper-tools, and put THAT on a cd?
[03:09] <NChief^^> I have wirekess in ubuntu :)
[03:09] <D[a] > sbalneav true.
[03:09] <trincamckee> does anyone knows a app like checkinstall, but doesnt install the package? i just want to build the package...
[03:09] <progrock> thankyou
[03:09] <sbalneav> Jeeepers.
[03:10] <D[a] > ndiswrapper-1.10.tar.gz
[03:10] <D[a] > that'd probably work
[03:10] <D[a] > eh?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> trincamckee: there maybe parameters that will do that i dont know ive always used checkinstall to install the package
[03:10] <sbalneav> You'll probably want to get the .deb from the repository.
[03:10] <sbalneav> Does the WIRED machine you're on have ubuntu on it now?
[03:11] <trincamckee> that would be nice
[03:11] <trincamckee> i dont know any flags
[03:11] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:11] <D[a] > no pc's in my house are wired
[03:11] <gnomefreak> http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/index.php
[03:11] <Celeste> Please tell me how can I enable transparenxy in Xorg for Ubuntu?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> trincamckee: also man checkinstall is helpful
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ^^^try that site
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Celeste: terminal?
[03:12] <sbalneav> D[a] : this is in your house, and you're telling me you can't move the box next to the wireless router to plug it in?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> or all windows?
[03:12] <trincamckee> ok gnomefreak tanks for the tip
[03:12] <frank__> can somebody please let me know how to activate universal
[03:12] <Celeste> gnomefreak, no for the gDesklets StarterBar
[03:12] <wastrel> !tell frank__ about universe
[03:12] <overrider> i am printing to a network printer using cups it seems, doesnt it need a printcap file in /etc/ ? or is that file not required?
[03:12] <Celeste> gnomefreak, I heard I must find composit in the Xorg.conf  but it is not in it
[03:12] <ithiel_> gnomefreak:  Access Point: Invalid   Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=off RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[03:12] <gnomefreak> Celeste: you got me there i cant even get my applets to work right :(
[03:12] <basbryan> ubotu: tell frank__ about universe
[03:13] <gnomefreak> ty basbryan
[03:13] <ithiel_> that's the displayed settings from iwconfig, and I cannot seem to set my settings, what's going on?
[03:13] <soundray> overrider: cups does it without one of those
[03:13] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, what do you do when a usb device wont unmount ?
[03:13] <soundray> WebLOCH: wait, it's probably still writing data.
[03:13] <WebLOCH> soundray, its been ages and i never started writing data to it
[03:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ithiel_ about -wireless
[03:14] <Josh43> hey, anyone here have a psp that they do homebrew stuff with?
[03:14] <perry> weblock: pull the plug :p
[03:14] <soundray> WebLOCH: perhaps it's still the pwd on some terminal you have open?
[03:14] <WebLOCH> perry, i did
[03:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ithiel_ about wireless
[03:14] <perry> WebLOCH: what type of device?
[03:14] <WebLOCH> soundray, nope closed everything first, and its def not open now
[03:14] <ithiel_> gnomefreak: don't waste my time with automated tripe. I'm a regular user here (adriyel), and I've exhausted all conventional methods including ubotu, thank you
[03:14] <WebLOCH> perry, its a sd card
[03:15] <perry> WebLOCH: i still have windoze on my machine at work because itunes is more reliable than gtkpod :P
[03:15] <gnomefreak> almost like i was supposed to know?
[03:15] <perry> WebLOCH: shouldn't be too big an issue :P
[03:15] <Extreme_Unction> sh
[03:15] <WebLOCH> perry, i simply chose not to buy a stupid mp3player hoho
[03:15] <perry> ipods seem to be a bit mpre finicky :P
[03:15] <khafra> If I'm using firefox 32 bit in AMD64 Ubuntu, can I use the AMD64 Mplayer as a plugin?
[03:15] <soundray> gnomefreak: what a pita... tg he's gone.
[03:15] <Josh43> itheil_; Calm down.. if you've been here so long, you know that 99% of questions are answered with standard rtfm stuff
[03:15] <gnomefreak> khafra: not sure but i doubt it
[03:15] <perry> heh...i ride the bus and its better to have an ipod than listen to someone else's inane cell phone conversation :P
[03:15] <gnomefreak> Josh43: hes gone
[03:15] <Extreme_Unction> Rejoice! For there are Kubuntu repositories for KDE 3.5.1!
[03:16] <WebLOCH> perry, i meant i chose to buy a decent one :P  not some fashion pimp rubbish
[03:16] <Josh43> lol - my syntax is all funny - didn't see it
[03:16] <gnomefreak> Extreme_Unction: yes you can get that from kubuntu.org or .com or whatever the site is
[03:16] <perry> my mom got it for me :P
[03:16] <perry> well, mother in law :P
[03:16] <WebLOCH> perry, fair play then haha
[03:16] <ithiel> back
[03:16] <perry> besides, we got lots of windows boxes at work
[03:16] <theshibboleth> Could someone help me? The video on 3d games works, but the audio doesn't
[03:16] <khafra> gnomefreak: Thanks, guess I'll go 32.  Or maybe both--would there be a conflict with two versions of mplayer?
[03:17] <perry> and my bosses get to keep me in free music
[03:17] <progrock> i installed gaim 2.0 beta 1 by mistake.. and now when i try to install beta 2 it errors.. i think something with the docs
[03:17] <gnomefreak> khafra: my personal opion is stick with 32 all the apps run easier on it
[03:17] <Luke> my ipod doesnt automount when i plug it in - what should I do?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> progrock: uninstall beta1
[03:17] <khafra> gnomefreak: Aha, thanks.
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Luke: what ipod app are you using?
[03:17] <progrock> gnomefreak, yeah.. first thing i did was that
[03:17] <gnomefreak> khafra: yw
[03:18] <Luke> gnomefreak: it doesnt even mount
[03:18] <wastrel> jazzy
[03:18] <soundray> ithiel: I'm here to help people. So is gnomefreak, as far as I can tell. Now would you please consider assuming manners that make it easy, rather than difficult, to help?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> progrock: what type of errors are you gettting?
[03:18] <Jeff1f> Anyone know why my ubuntu machine would keep ARPing non stop?
[03:18] <shiv> what is the Program Files folder equivalent in Linux?
[03:18] <progrock> gnomefreak, 1 sec.. let me try again so i can get the erros
[03:18] <gnomefreak> btw gaim2.0 is a pita to install on dapper so please tell me your running breezy
[03:19] <Josh43> shiv; /usr/bin, usually
[03:19] <Amaranth> shiv: /usr/bin, i guess
[03:19] <wastrel> Jeff1f:  something else on your network asking it to?
[03:19] <shiv> thanks
[03:19] <progrock> breezy.. yes.. ive done it before... only reason its erroring is becase i installed beta1 first by mistake
[03:19] <Celeste> I restart X
[03:19] <Josh43> :P
[03:19] <wastrel> Jeff1f:  no idea really :] 
[03:19] <Krillancello> Okay... so does anyone know a way to install JUST X and Gnome after doing the Ubuntu server install?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> progrock: how did you uninstall it? with dpkg or with apt?
[03:19] <burden> Could anyone reccomend a GUI compiler, preferably has syntax highlighting?
[03:20] <Jeff1f> Maybe it's that dang wiflyer router
[03:20] <progrock> gnomefreak, dpkg... since i installed it with checkinstall
[03:20] <wastrel> burden:  what language?
[03:20] <burden> C++, sorry forgot to add that part.
[03:20] <gnomefreak> burden: the compiler doesnt do syntex highlighting its the ide that does it
[03:20] <gnomefreak> burden: use anjuta
[03:20] <wastrel> i was going to say anjuta :[
[03:21] <gnomefreak> its got all good things :)
[03:21] <gnomefreak> and easy to play with
[03:21] <progrock> vim! lol.. screw ajunta, lol
[03:21] <Krillancello> wastrel: Teh win goes to the quick of mind.
[03:21] <progrock> steeper learnign curve tho
[03:21] <gnomefreak> progrock: im not sure than dpkg should have gotten rid of it all (did you get rid of the tar by chance and the files that were unpacked?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> vim-gui is nice :)
[03:22] <soundray> Krillancello: gnome-core and xserver-xorg-core should give you a pretty minimal configuration.
[03:22] <progrock> gnomefreak, yeah.. i deleted everything... 1 sec.. almsot up to the point where i get the error... make takes some time for gaim
[03:22] <gnomefreak> sorry its gvim
[03:22] <progrock> vim-gnome is the package actually
[03:22] <samoftheday> bleh im back my net went schizo
[03:22] <gnomefreak> progrock: no its a graphical vim
[03:23] <Krillancello> soundray: Everyone's been saying x-window-system-core; can you tell me the difference between it and xserver-xorg-core?
[03:23] <samoftheday> ok my prob was with gettin the ubuntu live to boot...
[03:23] <soundray> Krillancello: have you considered xubuntu-desktop for small footprint?
[03:23] <progrock> gnomefreak, i know... the apt-get install is vim-gnome for gvim
[03:23] <basbryan> samoftheday: really?
[03:23] <progrock> !pastebin
[03:23] <Krillancello> soundray: What is Xubuntu, exactly?
[03:23] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:23] <gnomefreak> !xubuntu
[03:24] <ubotu> from memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:24] <samoftheday> it would seem like it was booting then get stuck on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!"
[03:24] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:24] <perry> and it will run on an xbox
[03:24] <perry> as opposed to ps2buntu
[03:24] <D[a] > ewwwwwwwwww
[03:24] <D[a] > its hard
[03:24] <soundray> Krillancello: I actually meant x-window-system-core. Compare the packages with 'apt-cache depends ...'
[03:24] <wastrel> Krillancello:  dunno - check the package info/depends on  packages.ubuntu.com  mebby
[03:25] <wastrel> h8n teh lunix
[03:25] <perry> actually, i was wondering
[03:25] <gleesond> does anyone know about dirvers for asus motherboards? I'm trying to get my gigbit nic to work properly. for some reasion the way it is now, my routers webpages won't load all the way
[03:25] <perry> my workplace has draconian proxy filtering rules...i can't use synaptic at work
[03:25] <perry> i think its because its trying to check so many archives more or less simultaneously
[03:25] <Josh43> perry: ssh tunnel ;P
[03:26] <perry> Josh43: how would i do that?
[03:26] <yuan> ?
[03:26] <gleesond> asus!
[03:26] <jrsims> Query! Does anyone know of any good open-source flow-charting / diagramming tools?
[03:26] <samoftheday> anyone have any ideas why its doing that?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> its called vim-gtk
[03:26] <Krillancello> I don't want to use Xubuntu if it uses XFCE... I'm not in the mood to learn how to configure a different desktop system the way I like.
[03:26] <perry> and if their rules are that draconian, couldn't they block me from tunneling?
[03:26] <progrock> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9652
[03:26] <majd> how do i open a directory with sudo?
[03:26] <sbalneav> D[a] : What's hard?
[03:26] <yuan> exit
[03:26] <perry> sudo cd /blah/blah
[03:26] <D[a] > sbalneav
[03:26] <wastrel> jrsims:  dia mebby
[03:26] <perry> enter password :P
[03:26] <D[a] > wireless
[03:26] <D[a] > its like 60 steps
[03:26] <D[a] > rofl
[03:27] <D[a] > anyway, gonna go give it a shot~
[03:27] <wastrel> jrsims:  for stuff like that i tend to search freshmeat, then check if it's available in apt
[03:27] <Josh43> perry: there is always a way.. I have the entire thing locked down, but I portscanned my own machine and found one port: 23.. set the home ssh server to port 23; tunnel all day long :)
[03:27] <majd> perry, sudo: cd: command not found
[03:27] <jrsims> wastrel: k
[03:27] <wastrel> D[a] :  could you stop hitting enter after every 2nd word please
[03:27] <perry> majd: !
[03:27] <Krillancello> soundray: It seems to me "apt-get depends" will only compare dependencies; I was more interested in the comparison as far as what they provide and/or do.
[03:27] <majd> perry, huh?
[03:27] <gnomefreak> progrock: thats the same thing mine did and i worked on it for 2 weeks everyday and still no luck and btw i dont think you can use checkinstall with it
[03:27] <sbalneav> D[a] : That's because wireless manufacturers don't publish any of their flipping specs, so people can't write *REAL* drivers.
[03:28] <perry> majd: that's a first for me...
[03:28] <wastrel> perry:  sudo cd doesn't work - cd is a bash builtin
[03:28] <soundray> Krillancello: well, that is what they do: they provide dependencies.
[03:28] <majd> majd@ubuntu:~$ sudo cd /var/www/
[03:28] <majd> .that's what i'm using
[03:28] <samoftheday> im having problems booting ubuntu live on my computer
[03:28] <perry> i see
[03:28] <sbalneav> If you've got the right wireless card (very few), then everything "just works".
[03:28] <gnomefreak> majd: sudo nautilus
[03:28] <wastrel> majd:  sudo ls  will show you what's in there - just use the full path. or you can sudo -i  to drop into a root shell
[03:28] <perry> or activate root and just su then do it :P
[03:28] <gnomefreak> that will give you sudo privledges with the nautilus gui
[03:28] <soundray> Krillancello: if you enter 'dpkg -L x-window-system-core' you will see that it provides minimal package content.
[03:28] <Krillancello> soundray: I just wanted to find out if they do anything specifically different, which would influence my decision.
[03:29] <gnomefreak> maybe use gksudo instead of sudo
[03:29] <Kr4t05> D[a] : Plainly put: ndiswrapper is your best option.
[03:29] <perry> i put the listtle script thingie in from the starter guide
[03:29] <Krillancello> If they provide the same functionality, then I don't really have a reason to have a preference.
[03:29] <perry> i can open as root from nautilus :P~~
[03:29] <progrock> gnomefreak,  i dknow i dont have to... its just what the wiki said.
[03:29] <progrock> gnomefreak, but i have had it work for me before.. so it has to be somethign beta1 screwed up
[03:29] <Wammy|> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device
[03:30] <Krillancello> soundray: By the way, dpkg -L doesn't seem to work.
[03:30] <tritium> Krillancello: how are you using it?
[03:30] <Krillancello> Oh, wait. Haha.
[03:30] <gnomefreak> progrock: i had beta 1 on breezy working tried beta2 on daper adn no luck what so ever i never tried beta2 on breezy but i think its the package not your system
[03:30] <Krillancello> It says the package isn't installed.
[03:30] <Krillancello> So that's why. >_>;
[03:30] <tritium> definitely
[03:30] <perry> hey josh, you still there?
[03:31] <Josh43> Yeah
[03:31] <gnomefreak> night all see you in morning
[03:31] <Krillancello> There's no point in using dpkg -L to compare the two if I have to install the package before dpkg -L will work.
[03:31] <samoftheday> ubuntu live would seem like it was booting then get stuck on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" any help appreciated :D
[03:31] <perry> Josh43: would you mind pointing me towards a decent tutorial for setting up ssh so i can do my thing at work?
[03:31] <soundray> Krillancello: these core packages are minimum. You won't be able to run X or gnome properly without them. Hence the appendix -core.
[03:31] <Madpilot> !tell perry about ssh
[03:31] <_JECKEL_> hi all
[03:31] <Josh43> perry; You have the ubuntu box @ home?
[03:31] <_JECKEL_> just a quick question
[03:31] <perry> Josh43: or helping me get it setup
[03:32] <perry> on it right now
[03:32] <_JECKEL_> whats a good virus scanner?
[03:32] <Krillancello> soundray: My question was whether x-window-system-core or xserver-xorg-core differ in some way that would cause me to have a reason to prefer one over the other.
[03:32] <dotslashroot> What file do you edit to turn off encryption on a wifi card?
[03:32] <perry> aegis
[03:32] <Kr4t05> Does someone wanna help me make twinview work?
[03:32] <Josh43> perry; Something tells me it's going to be an involved process for you, but I will get you in the right direction
[03:32] <perry> Josh43: thanks :)
[03:32] <_JECKEL_> are you sure aegis is that good though?
[03:32] <tritium> Kr4t05: did you read the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/?
[03:32] <perry> krischan: look up a posting made by perryub on linuquestions.org
[03:32] <Krillancello> If they are similar enough for there to be no need for a personal preference, then I'll probably just pick whichever one's name I prefer. ;P
[03:33] <perry> kr4 rather
[03:33] <soundray> Krillancello: and my answer was, you will need them both anyway. So the question doesn't make sense.
[03:33] <Kr4t05> tritium: Er... I followed the HOW-TO in the forums.
[03:33] <Josh43> perry, Step 1: Turn on something on your home pc that lets you find out every port someone is hitting; I did it with the router, but that's tricky.. some sort of honeypot would work
[03:33] <tritium> Kr4t05: check out the docs, then
[03:33] <Krillancello> soundray: Well, I didn't see that among your responses.
[03:33] <_JECKEL_> we talking about firewalls and stuff?
[03:33] <perry> would nessus do?
[03:34] <Josh43> perry, Step 2: Run a port scanner from work on your home machine; let it do all 65k ports
[03:34] <rupan3> anyone know a resource for escape codes (like
[03:34] <perry> that;s kinda funny :P
[03:34] <_JECKEL_> what about just going to shieldsup.com
[03:34] <Josh43> perry, Dunno about nessus.. stopped doing active hacking a few years ago
[03:34] <rupan3> oops.. anyway, like \n ... i just don't know their proper name so searching on google isn't yielding very good results
[03:34] <_JECKEL_> or.... .net or something
[03:34] <_JECKEL_> forgot the exact thing
[03:35] <Josh43> _JECKEL_, Trying to work through a work firewall, so need to test between workj and home, not shieldsup and home
[03:35] <Kr4t05> tritium: Oh...
[03:35] <Kr4t05> tritium: Gotcha
[03:35] <_JECKEL_> oh lol
[03:35] <Josh43> perry, Step 3: Go home, collect the logs - see what came through
[03:35] <Kr4t05> blech
[03:35] <_JECKEL_> hmmm...
[03:36] <Josh43> perry, Step 4: Set up the ssh server on that port, and make sure you set it to allow tunnelling (check the ubuntuforums or wiki)
[03:36] <_JECKEL_> I had a problem with trying to let a friend connect to me so they could play a MUD I was developing
[03:36] <crouchingMonkey> i dont have .avi playback and i installed the codecs, ne ideas why
[03:36] <Josh43> perry, Step 5: Use Putty from work to ssh tunnel through your home connection :)
[03:36] <glitch13> anyone familiar with an install error where the install hangs at 0% on "installing the 'grub' package"?
[03:36] <shiv> where do u look for the city location codes for weather desklets
[03:36] <D[a] > FUCK IT.
[03:36] <shiv> got it
[03:36] <shiv> thanks
[03:36] <perry> hrmmmmmmmm
[03:36] <Installer36> Shiv Where is it
[03:37] <Josh43> fuck what, I wonder?
[03:37] <Kr4t05> rofl
[03:37] <perry> jambon...that's kind of a funny nick
[03:37] <perry> *OINK*
[03:37] <samoftheday> ubuntu live would seem like it was booting then hang on the message "Kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" any help appreciated :D
[03:37] <_JECKEL_> why cant I get aegis into my applications menu?
[03:37] <shiv> it was just the zip code
[03:37] <dotslashroot> fuck a "B" it has 2 holes
[03:37] <Kr4t05> I just got a pop-up for Windows registry cleaner. XD
[03:37] <soundray> Josh43: wireless setup I think.
[03:37] <dotslashroot> lol
[03:37] <Jambon> perry: yes
[03:37] <shiv> I thought it was something more complicated
[03:37] <Installer36> Thanks
[03:37] <Jambon> oink
[03:37] <Installer36> Me too
[03:37] <Kr4t05> ham...
[03:37] <Kr4t05> LMAO
[03:37] <spazzz> Evening folks.  I was wondering if anyone could help me with an Ubuntu Screen Issue
[03:37] <Kr4t05> french joke...
[03:37] <perry> Josh43: thanks, i'll give it a go
[03:37] <Josh43> soundray, Ahh.. need patience of confucious for some wireless setups ;)
[03:38] <rupan3> anyone know escape codes? like \n ? anyone know the one for backspace? when i write to this file with \n it writes a space to the beginning of the next line.. and the program that the output is for won't read it.
[03:38] <Josh43> perry, Hope it works out and you learn a bunch :)
[03:38] <spazzz> I need to find a screen frequency and refresh that the card will accept without going haywire
[03:38] <rupan3> spazzz: check the back of the monitor
[03:38] <soundray> Josh43: yeah, or patience until 20 April ;)
[03:38] <perry> me too :)
[03:38] <rupan3> spazzz:  there's probably a sticker with that info on it
[03:38] <spazzz> rupan3: Well heres the rub.  Im not using a moniter
[03:38] <Jambon> anyway, is easyubuntu for dapper, or only for breezy? same question with plf repo: breezy specific or dapper compatible?
[03:38] <rupan3> spazzz: using a tv?
[03:39] <Kr4t05> Is Dapper going to have TwinView?
[03:39] <perry> oscilloscope?
[03:39] <spazzz> rupan3 Yeap... Though an SVIDEO connection.  Im trying to build a MythTV box
[03:39] <perry> ipod?
[03:39] <rupan3> ooo slick
[03:39] <Kr4t05> I'm sick of xorg being queer.
[03:39] <Josh43> soundray, I know - can't wait.. esp after booting flight 4.. yikes it's good
[03:39] <rupan3> i'd be interested to hear how that turns out, spazzz
[03:39] <Madpilot> Jambon, EasyUbuntu is probably still Breezy-only at this point - no idea about the PLF repo
[03:40] <Kr4t05> >>
[03:40] <Kr4t05> <<
[03:40] <glitch13> so, no one's had the install freeze at the grub install...
[03:40] <Kr4t05> Nah.
[03:40] <Krillancello> If I were to type !<package-name> in here, Ubotu would describe the package, correct?
[03:40] <soundray> Kr4t05: Twinview is a feature of Nvidia cards and drivers. Nothing to do with dapper.
[03:40] <_JECKEL_> !wine
[03:40] <Jambon> Madpilot: so no real point in trying to install it to dapper....great. so what repo holds w32codecs and such?
[03:40] <Kr4t05> soundray: Oh, yeah.
[03:40] <samisad0rk> ubuntu live 64 isnt wanting to boot for me
[03:40] <Kr4t05> head*
[03:40] <Kr4t05> @.@
[03:40] <_JECKEL_> yep
[03:40] <soundray> Josh43: I couldn't stop myself -- I've dist-upgraded.
[03:41] <Madpilot> Jambon, AFAIK the RestrictedFormats stuff still works in Dapper - but try #ubuntu+1, that's the Dapper channel
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> hmmm
[03:41] <Madpilot> !tell Jambon about restricted
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> a new ubuntu is out?
[03:41] <farous> soundray: how is it going with the upgrade sofar
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> the one after breezy badger?
[03:41] <Josh43> soundray, lol.. I was tempted.. but I'm going to format the day of :)
[03:41] <spazzz> rupan3: I'll tell you all about it.  But before I can get it running I need to figure out how to get it to display.  I tried running the live cd and everything works fine until it runs XORG.
[03:41] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, still in testing - it'll be out in mid-april
[03:41] <Vylar1978> Hello
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> ah ok cool
[03:41] <_JECKEL_> what will it offer?
[03:41] <Vylar1978> I have a question? I hope some one can help
[03:42] <perry> new packages
[03:42] <perry> a different login screen
[03:42] <samisad0rk> :'( i really wish i could get this to work
[03:42] <KillerKiwi2006> Vylar1978: ask
[03:42] <_JECKEL_> lol
[03:42] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, all sorts of new shininess :P
[03:42] <Josh43> _JECKEL_, Mind blowing realism ;)
[03:42] <Vylar1978> I can't get my ubuntu online it won't take my modem
[03:42] <soundray> farous: some things are really nice and fast -- esp. firefox. Others don't work at all - swf plugin, openoffice...
[03:42] <_JECKEL_> lol
[03:42] <perry> updated backgrounds
[03:42] <Madpilot> !dapper
[03:42] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[03:42] <rupan3> Vylar1978: got a winmodem?
[03:42] <perry> Vylar1978: is it a winmodem?
[03:42] <Josh43> _JECKEL_, The answer to all your desires
[03:42] <rupan3> hehe
[03:42] <CineFX3D_> wtf, why won't breezey installation accept 'satori' as my hostname?
[03:42] <_JECKEL_> ok
[03:42] <soundray> farous: mind you, this is with the extra challenge of being an amd64 system.
[03:42] <perry> because its an anagram of "as i rot"?
[03:42] <_JECKEL_> it accepted hell as mine >_>
[03:43] <farous> soundray: i found ndiswrapper is hell with dapper. noticed the speed in firefox though am running 1.501 on breezy
[03:43] <Josh43> CineFX3D_, Another Satori exists on your subnet?
[03:43] <Vylar1978> It is the Robotics modem
[03:43] <farous> soundray: goodluck that is not an easy one
[03:43] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4 and /DapperFlight5 for the lastest Dapper news
[03:43] <CineFX3D_> perry: har har
[03:43] <wastrel> usrobotics eh
[03:43] <rupan3> CineFX3D_: i recognize that.. whats that from?
[03:43] <Vylar1978> 5610 B
[03:43] <wastrel> i used to have one of those
[03:43] <spazzz> So does anyone know what I can do?
[03:43] <Vylar1978> Us Robotics
[03:43] <perry> rupan3: that asian porn dvd you bought?
[03:43] <Vylar1978> Modem
[03:43] <perry> :P
[03:43] <CineFX3D_> rupan3: satori?
[03:43] <perry> Vylar1978: it is a controllerless modem?
[03:44] <perry> check out linmodems.org for more info
[03:44] <perry> i'm still looking for a decent non-linmodem on ebay
[03:44] <soundray> farous: thanks. So far I am pleased with dapper, but also pleased that I waited for a quiet period at work...
[03:44] <perry> i want to set up my old 386 as a voicemail server :P
[03:44] <Vylar1978> ok thanks you
[03:44] <bluefoxicy> startkeylogger
[03:44] <soundray> perry: the old mgetty...
[03:44] <perry> vgetty baby
[03:45] <wastrel> they should start banning people who do that
[03:45] <samisad0rk> could someone please help me if possible, im having probs gettin ubuntu live 64 to boot
[03:45] <Vylar1978> How do you know if it is controllerless ornot
[03:45] <perry> vykar: download scanmodem and let it tell you
[03:45] <perry> :)
[03:45] <perry> sampan: can't help you dude
[03:46] <perry> if you were to let me borrow a 64 bit processor or two, i would gratefully test things out for you
[03:46] <torpedo|dog> Is there a good way to resize an extended partition that has your swap on it?
[03:46] <mdmkolbe> is it possible to logon to the root user with ubuntu?
[03:46] <perry> mdmkolbe: yes
[03:46] <spazzz> Does anybody know how I can get Ubuntu's XORG to work correctly with a television screen?
[03:46] <farous> !tell mdmkolbe about root
[03:46] <NoelJB> Can anyone provide a quick process for where to modify the desktop (right-click, aka context) menu?
[03:46] <perry> you have to set a root password though
[03:46] <Madpilot> mdmkolbe, use sudo & your own user pw instead
[03:46] <Madpilot> perry, you don't need one
[03:46] <torpedo|dog> spazzz, is your gfx card ATI
[03:47] <torpedo|dog> ?
[03:47] <samisad0rk> could someone please help me if possible, im having probs gettin ubuntu live 64 to boot
[03:47] <perry> madewokherd: no, but that wasn't his question
[03:47] <perry> :P
[03:47] <perry> madpilot even
[03:47] <madewokherd> stop it
[03:47] <perry> damned autocompletion sucks :P
[03:47] <madewokherd> get better nick completers
[03:47] <Belboz99> Hey, is it OK to fsck a mounted partition if you're in Recovery mode?
[03:47] <perry> or just turn the feature off :P
[03:47] <perry> bitchx
[03:47] <IdleOne> !enter
[03:47] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:47] <perry> all you need to do is ask
[03:47] <perry> :P
[03:47] <spazzz> torpedo|dog: It might be I honestly don't know for sure.  It was something I picked up out of my spare parts bin
[03:47] <soundray> samisad0rk: if nobody is answering, it could be that nobody knows, or something is wrong with the question you are asking.
[03:47] <Madpilot> perry, there's too many other "mad..." nicks here right now. I should op up and kick the rest of them... (joking!)
[03:47] <madewokherd> ctcps are easier
[03:47] <torpedo|dog> Ah
[03:47] <madewokherd> because I don't have to form a sentence
[03:48] <samisad0rk> ok im trying to boot ubuntu live 64 <perry> updated backgrounds
 !dapper
 from memory, dapper is pre-release name for ne
[03:48] <perry> what version? 13 characters
[03:48] <samisad0rk> woops..... didnt mean to do that however it did that lol
[03:48] <madewokherd> well, if the nick completer was smarter, this wouldn't be a problem
[03:48] <perry> ctcp version perry = more character :P
[03:48] <madewokherd> but I don't know any good ones for bitchx
[03:49] <torpedo|dog> spazzz, so it's an old card?
[03:49] <torpedo|dog> You might want to figure out a model and ask on the forums, since it seems a little bit too involved for IRC ;)
[03:49] <CineFX3D_> stupid question.. boot partition should be primary and swap and home logical?
[03:49] <madewokherd> I'm not sure if irssi's is smart or not..
[03:49] <perry> heh
[03:50] <AngryElf> hey all, some progress on compiling my kernel....now i'm getting:   Ext3-fs cannot read superblock....kernel panic..........is there some other module i've forgotten to compile in with the kernel??  thanx
[03:50] <spazzz> torpedo|dog: Not horribly old.  Probobly 5 years max.  More likely 2 or 3
[03:50] <Vylar1978> were do I get the gz  at for compression
[03:50] <samisad0rk> ok im trying to boot ubuntu live 64 and it starts to boot and hangs on the message "kernal panic- not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler!" ... maybe this is worded a little better
[03:50] <farous> madewokherd: what do you mean by smart.  people should choose easier short names
[03:50] <soundray> CineFX3D_: it doesn't matter.
[03:50] <madewokherd> in particular I mean they complete based on who has spoken recently
[03:50] <madewokherd> it would pick me last because I hadn't spoken before
[03:51] <CineFX3D_> etx2 or ext3? :)
[03:51] <wastrel> hi
[03:51] <xfce> hello wastrel
[03:51] <farous> seank follow ubotu link there is a link to where you can download it
[03:51] <farous> mm wrong room
[03:51] <soundray> samisad0rk: this may be a hardware problem, or a general incompatibility. Check your memory with the memtest kernel (should be a boot option).
[03:51] <perry> well, shorter names tend to fill up quickly
[03:51] <soundray> CineFX3D_: ext3.
[03:52] <CineFX3D_> thanks
[03:52] <perry> kinda like if there were only 4 characters in a nick, the # of possible nicks would be too small :)
[03:52] <wastrel> nobody likes a know-it-all
[03:52] <perry> especially when they're dumb like me :P
[03:52] <perry> i'm not a know it all, i just play one on irc
[03:53] <soundray> perry, yeah, roughly 4^127, not a lot...
[03:53] <_JECKEL_> I can't get Aegis into my applications menu
[03:53] <soundray> perry: or was it the other way round?
[03:53] <Vylar1978> were can I get a compression file like winzip or Rar for linux
[03:53] <madewokherd> 4**127 => 28948022309329048855892746252171976963317496166410141009864396001978282409984L
[03:53] <_JECKEL_> even when I check it on my application menu editor
[03:53] <madewokherd> and there aren't 127 valid nick characters
[03:53] <perry> if i knew it all, i wouldn't have trouble getting synaptic to work when i was at work
# X: im not only a server, im also a client
[03:53] <perry> alphanumeric character?
[03:53] <madewokherd> it's more like 40
[03:53] <soundray> madewokherd: ;) something wrong with my formula then.
[03:54] <Engla> Vylar1978: there is already the Archive Manager, it does zip but not rar
[03:54] <perry> 26 letters + 0-9
[03:54] <rupan3> Vylar1978: you have to look in the multiverse repository
[03:54] <perry> maybe some brackets, etc
[03:54] <Engla> Vylar1978: you have to use synaptic to install an unrar tool
[03:54] <soundray> perry: case sensitive - additional 26
[03:54] <madewokherd> and _\{}-
[03:54] <CineFX3D_> Vylar1978: or automatix
[03:54] <madewokherd> it's not case sensitive
[03:54] <Vylar1978> well it is for the linmodem scan modem
[03:54] <perry> soundray: no
[03:54] <rupan3> Vylar1978: there's unrar-free but i don't think there's a rar-free
[03:54] <wastrel> !automatix
[03:54] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:54] <Vylar1978> I am not sure what it is on
[03:54] <perry> AAAA = aaaa
[03:54] <perry> at least as far as irc is concerned :P
[03:54] <madewokherd> network.isupport['CASEMAPPING']  => 'ascii'
[03:54] <madewokherd> that means we get []  too
[03:55] <perry> as i said
[03:55] <farous> hm i think this is better for offtopic guys lets keep the channel for support
[03:55] <xfce> +o
[03:55] <Vylar1978> How do I get to commandline on ubuntu
[03:55] <perry> tru nuff
[03:55] <madewokherd> 32*42**3 => 2370816
[03:55] <javiolo> anyone here has a imap account ? Is there any way to create filters to move mail to specific folders ?
[03:55] <rupan3> Vylar1978: hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
[03:55] <CineFX3D_> I didn't know automatix is risky business
[03:55] <perry> Vylar1978: apps accessories terminal
[03:55] <rupan3> Vylar1978: or run a terminal emulator
[03:55] <wastrel> javiolo:  that would be procmail's job i think.
[03:55] <seraphim> nice tip rupan3. now try to tell him how to come back :D
[03:56] <rupan3> haha
[03:56] <perry> hehehe
[03:56] <wastrel> javiolo:  my mail goes thru fetchmail -> procmail -> imap
[03:56] <perry> he didnt ask
[03:56] <perry> :P
[03:56] <samisad0rk> thanks soundray, i will try that now :)
[03:56] <rupan3> Vylar1978: ctrl-alt-F1 thru f6 are consoles, and ctrl-alt-f7 will bring you back to the gui
[03:56] <spazzz> Ok.. I guess no one here can help me
[03:56] <rupan3> haha
[03:56] <rupan3> seraphim: good call lol
[03:56] <soundray> CineFX3D_: in the hand of a knowledgeable user, it isn't necessarily risky. Problem is, it's intended to help newbies...
[03:57] <rupan3> seraphim: you know what \n is ? the name for those symbols?
[03:57] <soundray> spazzz: I think your kind of problem requires a web search. Sorry.
[03:57] <javiolo> wastrel Im using evolution, I created the filters but dont work, all the mail is in the inbox
[03:57] <CineFX3D_> I know, that's why I use it.. I really am new to linux, and don't have much time to explore it as I need it to run right now :/ It helped me though
[03:57] <LinuxJones> spazzz: what's wrong ?
[03:57] <seraphim> no
[03:57] <rupan3> i'm trying to google up a list but i don't know they're proper name
[03:57] <spazzz> soundray: I do the websearch before I come here.  If it was something that simple I would have solved it myself by now
[03:58] <rupan3> escape codes or something
[03:58] <NoelJB> So should I take it that no one knows how to modify the Gnome desktop context menu?
[03:58] <perry> escape sequence
[03:58] <spazzz> LinuxJones: Im trying to build a myth TV box and the stupid XORG won't play nice with my TV.
[03:58] <rupan3> perry: you rule. thanks man
[03:58] <dooglus> rupan3: before suggesting Ctrl-Alt-F1 to anyone make sure you tell them about Alt-F7 to get back here...
[03:58] <Engla> NoelJB: what do you you want to do with it?
[03:58] <soundray> spazzz: I didn't mean this in a critical or derogative way. Sorry if it came across like that.
[03:58] <perry> ack
[03:58] <bungrudi> is OOo2 package for ubuntu available already?
[03:58] <dooglus> rupan3: otherwise they'll possibly lose all the documents they were working on, thinking their PC crashed.
[03:58] <Madpilot> NoelJB, Gnome's own documentation is pretty good - Have you asked Google yet?
[03:58] <javiolo> wastrel using fetchmail + procmail isnt that too complicated ?
[03:58] <perry> http://www.cppreference.com/escape_sequences.html
[03:59] <seraphim> and then they will blame linux
[03:59] <NoelJB> Engla: I want to add entries to it, e.g., an Open Terminal entry.
[03:59] <soundray> spazzz: but your best chance is really to find someone who has your card, got the TVout working, and has written about it.
[03:59] <rupan3> dooglus: yeah i figured that, now. didn't think of it
[03:59] <Madpilot> NoelJB, to get an open-terminal entry, install nautilus-open-terminal
[03:59] <rupan3> perry: you rock my socks. thanks, brudda :)
[03:59] <Amaranth> !info nautilus-open-terminal
[03:59] <ubotu> nautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB
[03:59] <perry> rupan3: don't tell my wife ;)
[03:59] <perry> she'll divorce me
[03:59] <perry> take all my dough
[03:59] <rupan3> lol
[03:59] <antD> boo
[03:59] <Madpilot> rupan3, it's even easier to just tell people where gnome-terminal is...
[03:59] <Engla> NoelJB: you can use nautilus scripts to do that. Or install 'nautilus-actions' that can do that and lots more
[04:00] <NoelJB> So there is no way to otherwise modify the menu?
[04:00] <spazzz> Soundray: I've looked.  No one seems to have tried this.  It works fine in windows from the get go.   I think i've had knoppix running on this before.  I don't understand why Ubuntu has to always be a pain about screen issues
[04:00] <CineFX3D_> how about total commander replacement on linux.. but not mc? :)
[04:00] <bungrudi> is OOo2 package for ubuntu available already?
[04:00] <LinuxJones> spazzz: mythtv is not supported as part of the core Ubuntu install so getting will be spotty on something like that. There might be a mythtv channel here on freenode  ?
[04:00] <farous> Amaranth: i was always wondering why nautilus open terminal is not installed by default ?
[04:00] <Engla> NoelJB: search for those two terms and you'll find something
[04:00] <NoelJB> Engla: OK.  FWIW, preferences:/// and applications:/// appear to be broken in the ubuntu distro of nautilus.
[04:00] <rupan3> yep
[04:00] <Belboz99> hey, is it OK to fsck a mounted partition in recovery mode?
[04:00] <perry> stupid question
[04:00] <spazzz> LinuxJones: Im not even to the mythTV part so the fact it isn't supported is immaterial
[04:01] <bungrudi> hm.. found it
[04:01] <Amaranth> farous: because normal users should never have to use the terminal
[04:01] <soundray> spazzz: if it worked in Knoppix, you could copy the generated XF86Config-4 over and use it to guide your xorg setup.
[04:01] <Amaranth> farous: if they do, someone is broken
[04:01] <perry> on my linux desktop, i installed kde-base and other kde  packages...i eventually got it rid of it because i thought it was cluttered
[04:01] <Engla> NoelJB: true. I thought that was something gnome deprecated though
[04:01] <farous> Amaranth: it is in the menus
[04:01] <perry> on my laptop, i'm tempted to install kubuntu packages...will it not have 50,000,000 apps that all do the same thing?
[04:01] <farous> Amaranth: sorry that is the strangest answer i ever heared
[04:01] <NoelJB> Engla: hmmm ... still in the docs distributed with Ubuntu, though.
[04:01] <Jambon> has anyone had firefox automatically open downloads when clicked on, because it used to ask me where to save them, and now it just tries to open them
[04:01] <soundray> spazzz: is a full-featured DVB card not an option?
[04:02] <Amaranth> farous: something, not someone :)
[04:02] <rupan3> perry: i didn't get along with kubuntu
[04:02] <NoelJB> So I should be installing nautilus-open-terminal and nautilus-actions?
[04:02] <spazzz> Soundray: Not untill im satisfied it will do what I want
[04:02] <callan_> How can I make windows go to other workspaces when I drag them to the side of the screen in gnome?
[04:02] <farous> :)
[04:02] <rupan3> rupan3: the regular ubuntu install detected all my hardware.. kubuntu was a LOT of work to get going
[04:02] <perry> case in point: like 15 graphics apps
[04:02] <Amaranth> farous: it's in the menus because we know things are broken and if it wasn't there users would have no way of getting to it
[04:02] <rupan3> err perry: not rupan3:
[04:02] <rupan3> hehe
[04:02] <perry> 18 multimedia parogs
[04:02] <soundray> spazzz: catch22 then.
[04:02] <Engla> NoelJB: you probably only need one of those, but nautilus-actions seems very cool so try it. [it didn't work for me, though] 
[04:03] <Belboz99> does anyone know if it's OK to fsck a mounted partition while in recovery mode?
[04:03] <perry> i'm not worried about hardware...just cluttered desktop and everything else
[04:03] <Krillancello> I'm about to do a 'sudo apt-get install gnome-control-center gnome-terminal nautilus mozilla-firefox gedit xchat'. I think that should be a good way to start out with a basic setup.
[04:03] <HondaDarrell> does anyone know where I find EasyUbuntu? Is it in universe or does it have a webpage?
[04:03] <Krillancello> O_o
[04:03] <SbCl3> does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?
[04:03] <spazzz> Soundray: I guess i'm just angry because I don't understand why Ubuntu has to be a b**** about Video cards.  Its one of the MAIN THINGS for the OS to support and Ubuntu sucks at it.
[04:03] <dooglus> callan_: you mean "edge flipping"?
[04:03] <spazzz> Which is a shame considering how easy the rest of the system is
[04:03] <callan_> dooglus: I suppose.
[04:03] <Madpilot> !tell HondaDarrell about easyubuntu
[04:04] <dooglus> callan_: you don't want that.  it's too confusing.
[04:04] <perry> !tell perry about easybuntu
[04:04] <spazzz> And im just frustrated because Ubuntu has never just detected the card and ran with it like its supposed too
[04:04] <perry> !tell perry about easyubuntu
[04:04] <tritium> spazzz: tell that to the proprietary video manufacturers.  it's not ubuntu's fault
[04:04] <callan_> dooglus: How can I enable it to test it then?
[04:04] <spazzz> tritium: Bull... Plenty of other Linux Distro's make it work.
[04:04] <NoelJB> Engla: I'll look.  BTW, is `info nautilus-open-terminal" (or nautilus-actions) supposed to work?  Doesn't here.
[04:04] <soundray> spazzz: I don't share your experience. I guess your angle is not a universal one.
[04:04] <tritium> spazzz: no, not bull
[04:05] <Madpilot> NoelJB, the "info" stuff we use here is a command to the bot
[04:05] <SbCl3> does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?
[04:05] <Engla> NoelJB: I don't know.
[04:05] <spazzz> tritium: yess bull this isn't an issue of WIndows working and Linux not... Then you can blame it on the driver makers.  This is an issue of somethign working perfectly fine in one Linux Distro and not in another
[04:05] <dooglus> callan_: I don't think it's possible to enable edge-flipping in GNOME without switching to a different window manager.
[04:05] <Madpilot> NoelJB, just install nautilus-open-terminal - you might have to restart nautilus after installing it
[04:05] <perry> well, its time to get to bed
[04:05] <tritium> spazzz: which video chipset are you referring to?
[04:05] <NoelJB> Madpilot: LOL  that would explain why it didn't work from bash  ;-)
[04:06] <NoelJB> !info nautilus-open-terminal
[04:06] <ubotu> nautilus-open-terminal: (open terminal in any folder from Nautilus), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 372 kB
[04:06] <spazzz> Tritium: Dosen't seem to matter.  I have both ATI and Ubuntu won't run either without SOME kind of issue.
[04:06] <callan_> dooglus: That's a shame, thanks for your help anyway.
[04:06] <Vylar1978> why don't my floppy drive work
[04:06] <NoelJB> !info nautilus-actions
[04:06] <soundray> spazzz: you may be right, and it could be an issue of xorg versus xfree86. In any case, if you still want advice, you are in the right place. If you want to sound off about it, you're not.
[04:06] <tritium> spazzz: ATI is _not_ cooperative with the open source community
[04:06] <spazzz> With my ATI card it wouln't work in anything other than 680x480 or something.  My new NVIDIA did the same
[04:06] <shiv> what program can I use to watch shoutcast TV just like streamtuner?
[04:06] <Engla> NoelJB: that's not a package what I know, I got it from gnomefiles. Hence it didn't work :-(
[04:06] <dooglus> callan_: there's something called 'brightside' which looks promising: http://catmur.co.uk/~ed/main/brightside/
[04:06] <Madpilot> callan_, for edge stuff, there's something called brightside - it's in Ubuntu's repos (I haven't used it, just noticed it)
[04:07] <spazzz> This one works fine untill XORG runs and then scrables the screen all up
[04:07] <CineFX3D_> can I run Krusader under ubuntu/GNOME?
[04:07] <Madpilot> dooglus, heh - great minds, or something :P
[04:07] <NoelJB> Engla: Ah
[04:07] <dooglus> !info brightside
[04:07] <ubotu> brightside: (Add reactivity to the corners and edges of your GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-7ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 97 kB, Installed size: 928 kB
[04:07] <callan_> Thanks.
[04:07] <shiv> what program can I use to watch shoutcast TV just like streamtuner?
[04:07] <Bilange_> great minds think alike or something similar :P
[04:07] <spazzz> soundray: I asked for advise earlier and was told to go google it.  Which i've already done.  Its just frustrating is all
[04:07] <cronik> hello everyone
[04:07] <dooglus> great minds know how to search the repository...
[04:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> spazzz: Which driver are you using?
[04:07] <cronik> i need some help
[04:08] <Krillancello> Brightside? Would that be like run a program if you put your mouse in the upper-left corner or something?
[04:08] <spazzz> Tritium: ATI dosen't matter... Its not just ati and as I said these cards work fine in other disto's.
[04:08] <BioSnorE> shiv: I think xmms has a plugin for that.. I know it handles shoutcase audio np
[04:08] <soundray> spazzz: I gather from your earlier replies that you didn't search for your specific gc model. Correct?
[04:08] <Trinisan> Ques can take a screenshot from the live cd?
[04:08] <dooglus> Krillancello: it looks like it allows you to do <stuff> when the mouse does <stuff> - so you could enable edge-flipping as an example
[04:08] <SbCl3> does anyone know how to decompress .sit (stuffit) archives on ubuntu?
[04:08] <shiv> I know audio for fine I was looking for shoutcast TV (video)
[04:09] <spazzz> soundray: Not yet on this one no.  I didn't figure that was even worth it untill I got the system in some kind of usable form.  I can't even boot it like this
[04:09] <Krillancello> dooglus: What is edge-flipping? Making the mouse cursor wrap around from one side to the other?
[04:09] <cronik> i want to install hydra,but my friend tould me i need to add somthing to the packege maneger to be able to get it
[04:09] <Belboz99> okay, can someone at least give me an answer?  ANY answer?  I hate being ignored!  Is it OK to fsck a mounted partition while in recovery mode?
[04:09] <cronik> anyone knows how to do this?
[04:09] <shiv> how do u type my name when you answer me?
[04:09] <kahuna_> Hi. Does anyone know of a console based dvd shrinking program that can do the whole disk, not just a single title?
[04:09] <kahuna_> Belboz99: It's never OK to fsck a mounted partition
[04:09] <seraphim> spazzz: for resolution tra
[04:09] <seraphim> err
[04:09] <Bilange_> Belboz99: if no one answers, its because no one is sure enough of its answers, your not being ignored :) but...
[04:09] <cronik> anyone knows how to do this?
[04:09] <cronik> some help
[04:09] <Vylar1978> How do you get the a drive to work
[04:10] <NoelJB> Madpilot: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal fails, saying that it cannot find the package.
[04:10] <cronik> :)
[04:10] <seraphim> resolution-settings try the vga option at boot
[04:10] <Vylar1978> floppy drive
[04:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Belboz99: No, fscking mounted partitions isn't safe.  I recommend using a livecd.
[04:10] <spazzz> seraphim: for resolution tra?
[04:10] <Trinisan> this is hot, i did prtsc and it took a screenshot, hotness
[04:10] <seraphim> sso you can have a nice high resolution just from the beginning
[04:10] <Madpilot> NoelJB, do you have the Universe repo enabled?
[04:10] <soundray> SbCl3: you will need proprietary software for this. http://www.stuffit.com/unix/
[04:10] <Belboz99> kahuna: thanks for answering, the thing is that it's mounted as "rw, errors=ro",
[04:10] <seraphim> spazzz:  sorry, stepped on enter too early
[04:10] <Bilange_> Belboz99: im not sure of my answer myself, but fscking a partition is necessary once in awhile, reguardless where or how you do it (from recovery mode, from another livecd, or whatever)
[04:11] <soundray> spazzz: no chance to connect a monitor temporarily?
[04:11] <LinuxJones> spazzz: so your problem is xorg output to your tv ?
[04:11] <kahuna_> Belboz99: like PuMpErNiCkLe said, use a livecd if possible. If not use something like tomsrb, then fsck the unmounted partition.
[04:11] <Belboz99> the thing is I'm not sure if recovery has root mounted as ro or rw
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rw
[04:11] <Bilange_> Belboz99: any ways, be sure to read the manpage to be sure you're not going to screw up the partition or its data :S
[04:11] <dooglus> Krillancello: edge-flipping is switching from one workspace to the next when your mouse goes off the side of the screen.
[04:11] <spazzz> Seraphim: I tried that with the vga=771 flag and it didn't help
[04:11] <Belboz99> alright, I'll have to dig through my CD's to find one of those live disks
[04:11] <Celeste> hi
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> At least, I think it will be rw...
[04:11] <spazzz> Soundray: Don't have one availiable there at the moment
[04:12] <spazzz> LinuxJones: Correct
[04:12] <Krillancello> dooglus: Well... I was close. Lol. That actually sounds nice.
[04:12] <kahuna_> It's OK to check the partition, just not repair.
[04:12] <Krillancello> I might try brightside if I can get this notebook running properly.
[04:12] <dooglus> Krillancello: it sounds nice, until you keep doing it accidentally all the time
[04:13] <Krillancello> dooglus: Yes, that's true. Lmao.
[04:13] <Celeste> I am searching for a modified StarterBar - a gDesklet - I found and lost it today by a mistake - it is a special modified StarterBar which makes the icons stay IN a specified height,  and not as the original StarterBar,  that the Icons grow over the border
[04:13] <Celeste> who knows where I can find this StarterBar??
[04:13] <Delvien> Anyone running WoW have the "NO CLICK" problem ?????
[04:13] <dooglus> Krillancello: Havoc Pennington of the GNOME project described it was "...ouija board UI, where you just move the mouse around and the computer guesses what you mean, has a lot of issues"
[04:14] <vvlaw> is that totem can not support the x264 codec?
[04:14] <bouncing> How do I turn on IP Forwarding through my ppp interface?
[04:14] <Krillancello> ...
[04:14] <Krillancello> ... I forgot to apt-get gdm. -_-;;
[04:15] <LinuxJones> spazzz: what kind of hardware is it your running ?
[04:15] <seraphim> bouncing: install firestarter
[04:15] <seraphim> it can manage that
[04:15] <Krillancello> That was smart of me. Install a desktop environment and not a ?dm.
[04:15] <Delvien> is there a WoW linux channel ?
[04:15] <NoelJB> Madpilot: OK, I see it.  Still not really what I want, though.  Close.  I just want to add a standard entry to the desktop context menu.  Oh well.
[04:15] <bouncing> seraphim: I'm looking for something a bit less serious. just a one-off.
[04:16] <spazzz> LinuxJones: Its a Dell Computer PIII 1Ghz.  Running a TVAnywhere capture card and a ATI 128MB video card with SVIDEO out
[04:16] <Madpilot> NoelJB, naut-open-term should have added a "Open Terminal" option to your right-click menu? Seems pretty standard to me...
[04:17] <seraphim> bouncing:  then you have to define some rules with iptables i think
[04:17] <bouncing> seraphim: I thought I just had to put 1 in a proc file and do maybe some other quick fix?
[04:18] <NoelJB> Madpilot: it wants to do it for ALL folder objects, such that the terminal opens in that directory.  I want to restore a standard menu item that you would find, for example, on every RH Gnome desktop.
[04:18] <dooglus> seraphim: ipkungfu is nice
[04:18] <vvlaw> no body know how to paly x264 files?
[04:18] <Vylar1978> Thinks I need get unix for dummies?
[04:18] <seraphim> the other quick fix is telling iptables ehat to do with which packet on which device and so on
[04:19] <Madpilot> NoelJB, I've never used RH Gnome - and I think the point of the naut. term package is to allow you to get your directories to the command line easily
[04:19] <CineFX3D_> I just installed breezey.. I wan't hoary wallpaper back :)
[04:20] <mcquaid> anyone here use a usb sound card in ubuntu?
[04:20] <seraphim> if you just want some forwarding i really recommend firestarter. it's very easy there
[04:20] <Vylar1978> Can some one tell me how to getmy flopy  to work again
[04:20] <seraphim> and you could easyly forward special ports if you need
[04:20] <seraphim> and so on
[04:20] <mcquaid> i'm considering getting one, and want to make sure i'm not going to run into some issues i've read about before
[04:21] <NoelJB> Madpilot: yes, I understand what it does.  Just not quite what I want, so I will need to figure out how to tailor ubuntu to do what *I* want.
[04:21] <Madpilot> NoelJB, fair enough - if/when you figure it out, post a howto on the wiki or somewhere for others
[04:22] <dli> can I do those "hi-speed dialup" in ubuntu
[04:22] <zachary> hey
[04:23] <Belea_> hi there
[04:23] <Belea_> where i shoudl edit this values
[04:23] <Krillancello> Okay... X doesn't want to run.
[04:23] <Belea_> vsync range 0:  56.00 -  76.00
[04:23] <Belea_> and
[04:23] <Belea_> hsync range 0:  30.00 -  81.00
[04:24] <spazzz> Krillancelo: join the party ;-)
[04:24] <Belea_> because my lcd its not in the middle
[04:24] <Belea_> until i use xvidtune
[04:24] <seraphim> Belea_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <Belea_> yes..  but where ?
[04:24] <seraphim> ah
[04:25] <bouncing> seraphim: Ok, I don't like firestarter
[04:25] <seraphim> Section "Monitor"
[04:25] <Belea_> i tried in the Section "Monitor"
[04:25] <seraphim>         HorizSync       30-70
[04:25] <seraphim>         VertRefresh     50-160
[04:25] <spazzz> Krillancello: Seriously whats it doing for you>
[04:25] <Belea_> :D
[04:25] <Belea_> oh
[04:25] <Belea_> without 0:
[04:25] <Belea_> cul, thx
[04:25] <Belea_> and how can i restart trhe xserver ?
[04:25] <seraphim> ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:25] <Belea_> i know how to shotdown :)
[04:26] <Belea_> that is for shutdown ?
[04:26] <Belea_> and to bring it back ?
[04:26] <seraphim> restarts the x-server
[04:26] <Madpilot> !enter
[04:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:26] <seraphim> most of the time
[04:26] <Belea_> cul, thx
[04:26] <seraphim> if it doesn't "sudo killall gdm" "sudo gdm"
[04:26] <dooglus> where is the documentation for gnome-screensaver?  it doesn't seem to have a manual page
[04:27] <Engla> seraphim: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'
[04:27] <seraphim> thanks :D
[04:27] <Delvien> anyone here help me with a World of Warcraft + Wine problem ?
[04:27] <rupan3> is there a way to reload my xorg.conf without logging out and back in?
[04:28] <NoelJB> Madpilot: will do.  I'm wondering if it requires writing a nautilus extension, but I'll find out, and compare against the RHEL distro.
[04:28] <Kyral> rupan3: nope
[04:28] <seraphim> no
[04:28] <Rob_Dude> KDE/Gnome are not part of Linux - they are just commonly used applications, right?
[04:28] <rupan3> hrmm bummer
[04:28] <rupan3> thx :)
[04:28] <syllogism> Rob_Dude: roger that
[04:28] <dooglus> Rob_Dude: Linux is the name of the kernel
[04:28] <Celeste> does anyone of you have an idea where Mac OS X puts minimiyed windows?
[04:29] <Rob_Dude> Can you get a KDE/Gnome port and run it in windows?
[04:29] <syllogism> Celeste: it puts 'em down at the bottom. . . somewhere. . .
[04:29] <torpedo|dog> Rob_Dude, 'tain't easy.
[04:29] <pugzilla> startkeylogger
[04:29] <kahuna_> bastard
[04:29] <kahuna_> stop fucking around.
[04:29] <pugzilla> i cant get my flopy to werk
[04:29] <torpedo|dog> You need to use cygwin and X and a lot a lot a lot a lot of configuration and stuff.
[04:30] <Rob_Dude> Ahh, gotcha
[04:30] <Celeste> syllogism, can I see a screenshot please?
[04:30] <kahuna_> scuse the language guys.
[04:30] <Celeste> syllogism, I am just modding gnome
[04:30] <LinuxJones> pugzilla: haha
[04:30] <syllogism> I use Xming and tunnel X11 sessions over ssh
[04:30] <Celeste> wanna make it look exactly as Mac OS
[04:30] <torpedo|dog> Rob_Dude, if you're up to the challenge, go nuts ;)
[04:31] <Krillancello> http://pastebin.com/581374 I just installed X, Gnome and GDM on this notebook, and it does this at boot. Can anyone help me fix this?
[04:31] <syllogism> Celeste: I hate Macs. . .as a matter of fact, the only mac I'd consider buying is #1 at McDonalds
[04:31] <Engla> Celeste: on osx, minimized windows go in a side section of the dock, as thumbnail icons
[04:31] <Rob_Dude> I really like this multiple desktop thing and everything in Gnome....I've used some multiple desktop program in Windows - but it sucked
[04:32] <Vylar1978> Can any one help me get my floppy to work
[04:32] <Rob_Dude> At work we have to run windows...but we can still applications if we want
[04:32] <Celeste> Engla, thank you!
[04:32] <Rob_Dude> I was hoping I could get Gnome running :)
[04:32] <Engla> Celeste: no problem. It can't be easy to duplicate that in gnome though
[04:32] <Engla> impossible, even
[04:32] <pugzilla> plug it in
[04:33] <Celeste> Engla,  I think you are right
[04:33] <Engla> Rob_Dude: run linux inside vmware?
[04:33] <Vylar1978> the floppy it is plugged in
[04:33] <torpedo|dog> Rob_Dude, looks like you might look at http://cygwinports.dotsrc.org/
[04:33] <wastrel> don't be sad
[04:33] <Engla> Celeste: some window manager makes icons out of minimized windows.. I have no Idea how to work with this though, sorry
[04:33] <pugzilla> does anyone know about "stopkeylogger"
[04:33] <Rob_Dude> Engla:  That's not a bad idea
[04:33] <pugzilla> ?
[04:33] <CineFX3D_> where can I get wallpaper from hoary?
[04:33] <rupan3> Celeste: XFCE does that
[04:33] <Celeste> I have a very important question ...
[04:33] <Engla> pugzilla: I read about it today
[04:34] <Vylar1978> Pug were you nto talking to me
[04:34] <pugzilla> i read irt too
[04:34] <pugzilla> dont werk
[04:34] <Celeste> can I teach GNOME  by maximiying windows  NOT use the very left  100px  ?
[04:34] <Engla> did someone drop from this channel, pugzilla? ;-) I have parts ignored
[04:34] <Celeste> I need the very left 100px for a gDesklet which should be ALWAYS visible
[04:34] <rupan3> i know you can in xfce
[04:34] <rupan3> hehe
[04:34] <mdmkolbe> where can I find information on the status of dapper drake?
[04:35] <wastrel> Celeste:  make a transparent gnome panel that's 100px wide
[04:35] <wastrel> and stick it on the left out of the way of the desklet
[04:35] <rupan3> wastrel: good idea ;)
[04:35] <Madpilot> mdmkolbe, search the Ubuntu wiki for "dapper" - there are a couple of status pages
[04:35] <Celeste> wastrel, a trasparent panel??
[04:35] <Celeste> wow lemme try
[04:35] <Vylar1978> How do I get my floppy to work?
[04:35] <Engla> Celeste: this is an ugly trick.. oh wastrel was faster
[04:36] <Engla> Celeste: I tested that and it works
[04:36] <rupan3> pretty smart idea.. i stil like xfce and the workspace margins that you can set though :p
[04:36] <mdmkolbe> Madpilot: thx
[04:37] <Krillancello> http://pastebin.com/581374 I just installed X, Gnome and GDM on this notebook, and it does this. Can anyone help me fix it?
[04:37] <phantomcircuit> startkeylogger
[04:37] <Engla> hehe
[04:37] <brucy> hi does anyone know what I must fix in /etc/fstav in order to avoir mounting a disk at every boot?
[04:38] <Celeste> it does not work - you cannot click the gdesklet in the background any more
[04:38] <cK-gLocK> can anyone here help me update my videocard drivers, im running old 7667 drivers.need help updating to the latest nvidia drivers. im running ubuntu ofcourse ftw
[04:38] <wastrel> brucy:  noauto in options
[04:38] <brucy> thanks
[04:39] <Engla> Krillancello: what X package did you install?
[04:39] <Engla> Krillancello: that's the exact line to launch X that my breezy install uses, so the gdm conf should be okay. that X is missing is alarming though
[04:39] <spazzz> What keys do I press to shutdown the Xserver and go to the command line?  I don't want it to restart.  I need this so I can try to fix XORG
[04:39] <wastrel> Celeste:  bummer :[
[04:40] <dli> Krillancello, apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:40] <Engla> spazzz: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' ; use start to start it again
[04:40] <dyrne> cK-gLocK: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=latest+nvidia
[04:40] <wastrel> spazzz:  ctrl-alt-f1  will put you on the console.    or what engla said
[04:40] <spazzz> Engala: I can't see the screen
[04:40] <spazzz> wastrel: Thats it thank you
[04:40] <Xenguy> spazzz: drop to the console (Ctrl-Alt-F2), then do: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:41] <Xenguy> spazzz: er, sudo that
[04:41] <spazzz> Thanks...
[04:41] <Vylar1978> Can some help me?
[04:41] <spazzz> I finaly got the system to boot now I just need to get X to display something other than garbage
[04:41] <renan> ola
[04:41] <Krillancello> What the hell...
[04:41] <brucy> Which site must I add to /etc/apt/source.list to install mplayer I read that it was in universe but I can't find it
[04:42] <renan> tem alguem do brasil aki
[04:42] <Krillancello> When I try to use startx, my X server's xserverrc tries to "exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp"
[04:42] <Krillancello> There's no /usr/bin/X11/X.
[04:42] <Krillancello> O_o
[04:42] <Celeste> ok,  so is there an OTHER option than the invisible Panel  to make maximizing windows STOP 100px away from the left edge of the screen??
[04:43] <spazzz> Ok let me ask this... If I start the Live CD and type: live vga=771 at boot it gives me the graphical menus that were scrambled before but as soon as the system loads everything scrables agian
[04:43] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: does this work?:  sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[04:43] <Krillancello> o_o...
[04:43] <spazzz> What did the vga=771 option do and how can I duplicate this once the system starts?
[04:44] <Krillancello> '/usr/bin/X11 is a link to ../bin.
[04:44] <Krillancello> >_>
[04:44] <Vylar1978> xenguy do Iput that on commmand line
[04:45] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: yup
[04:45] <Xenguy> Krillancello: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 14 Dec 28 10:24 X -> ../X11R6/bin/X
[04:45] <benplaut> "We are now in 'bug freeze' - the bugs are preserved in their natural state so they can be observed by the masses"
[04:46] <g14> I am typing this to see if anyone has Norton Internet Security. startkeylogger
[04:46] <Xenguy> Krillancello: so what is the output for: ls -ld /usr/bin/X11R6/X
[04:47] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: then if it works, you should see the floppy contents by typing:  ls /mnt
[04:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> g14: In this channel? :p
[04:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Try that exploit in #windows or something.
[04:48] <nalioth> g14: what are you doing?
[04:49] <Engla> stopkeylogger
[04:49] <Engla> ;-)
[04:49] <nalioth> !offtopic
[04:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, offtopic is Non-support discussions may be carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[04:49] <g14> nalioth: check slashdot
[04:49] <Xenguy> g14: go away :P
[04:49] <wastrel> Celeste:  perhaps ask on #gnome or in a gnome mailing list....
[04:49] <nalioth> g14: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nalioth: It's an exploit in Norton that makes you quit if it detects certain 'key'phrases associated with some trojans.
[04:49] <Vylar1978> xenguy it works
[04:50] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: cool - I wonder if you can mount your floppy with Nautilus File Manager then?
[04:50] <Vylar1978> xenguy: How do you do that but first can you help me get my modem online
[04:50] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: to unmount the floppy (when you are done), do: umount /mnt
[04:51] <wastrel> we should set up a bot that autobans when someone usese that keylogger thing
[04:51] <boro> hello , can some help me ?, i need playing StarCraft my ubuntu can cedega 4.2.2 funny good but is very slow...and other games also like Devil 2, some idea? thank
[04:51] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: what kind of modem?
[04:51] <boro> my pc is Celeron 1G,256Ram
[04:51] <Toma-> this is a big ask, but does anyone know what wiki server wiki.ubuntu works on? if any...
[04:52] <clever`rev> where can i find the settings for how long the pc can idle before the laptop screen shuts itself off?
[04:52] <Vylar1978> xenguy:us robotics 56k modem
[04:52] <nalioth> clever`rev: in system > prefs > screen saver > advanced
[04:52] <Vylar1978> v.92
[04:52] <wastrel> Toma-:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wiki/credits
[04:52] <clever`rev> :D
[04:53] <clever`rev> thanks
[04:53] <Toma-> thanks wastrel :P
[04:54] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: brb
[04:54] <mikebot> anyone know why, in firefox, when i am using mouse3 to move aorund on a page, when i release, it opens a link?
[04:55] <wastrel> mikebot:  ff1.5?
[04:55] <NoelJB> Madpilot: Aha!  Found what's going on ... see:
[04:55] <NoelJB> http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus
[04:55] <wastrel> mikebot:  i've been wondering that myself :] 
[04:55] <_jason> mikebot: about:config in the address bar and change middlemouse.contentLoadURL to false
[04:55] <mikebot> wastrel, yeah hehe
[04:55] <jason_q> hi
[04:56] <mikebot> _jason, wonderful, thank you
[04:56] <ali> hi i have a printer on windows 98 at my work place
[04:56] <marc> hey guys
[04:56] <ali> and i want to connect through my ubuntu 5.4
[04:56] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: so you are on dialup?
[04:56] <Vylar1978> yes
[04:57] <ali> i cannot see my printers in my places -> network server
[04:57] <Xenguy> !dialup
[04:57] <ubotu> dialup is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[04:57] <marc> Did you guys got World of wacraft working on Ubuntu ???
[04:57] <Toma-> marc, yep
[04:57] <ali> i can see other share folders but i cannot print ?
[04:57] <Vylar1978> !dialup  I put that in command line
[04:57] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Vylar1978
[04:58] <ali> i have got the ppd file for hp laserjet 1100A
[04:58] <marc> Toma- is it pretty complecated to install
[04:58] <Toma-> hey _jason, any idea on how to turn off highlight copy in the adress bar? :D
[04:58] <Madpilot> Vylar1978, read the URL the bot just posted
[04:58] <Toma-> marc, from what ive heard, no
[04:58] <Engla> Vylar1978: that's just a command for this channel :-)
[04:58] <ali> anyone ???????????????????????] 
[04:58] <marc> you us it with winehq i guess
[04:58] <_jason> Toma-: i'm pretty sure that is an option in about:config as well but I don't know off the top of my head
[04:58] <Toma-> rightio
[04:59] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: I used to have good success with 'pppconfig' (can be run at the command-line); 'kppp' is a decent GUI
[04:59] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: no
[04:59] <_jason> Toma-: browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll possibly
[04:59] <Xenguy> !tell Vylar1978 about dialup
[04:59] <Vylar1978> ok
[05:00] <ali> is it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine
[05:00] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: see the link ubotu sent you for more details than just pppconfig and kppp
[05:00] <dolson> does anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?
[05:00] <Vylar1978> I am new to unix did not thinkit would be this differnt
[05:00] <ali> vlc
[05:00] <ali> Vylar1978, vlc player
[05:00] <Toma-> hmmm if only find worked in this about:config page
[05:00] <Toma-> oh... filter :D
[05:00] <Toma-> silly
[05:00] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: ever OS is 'different' if you're not familiar with it :-)
[05:01] <Lao> I'm new to Linux too but finding it somewhat easier than I expected
[05:01] <Toma-> _jason, it was clipboard.autocopy i think
[05:01] <_jason> Toma-: ah
[05:01] <ali> is it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine
[05:01] <Toma-> nope
[05:01] <Toma-> :|
[05:01] <_jason> Toma-: I didn't even know it did that, I thought you meant how it selected the whole thing :)
[05:02] <_jason> Toma-: some of the things need you to restart firefox
[05:02] <Toma-> ok
[05:02] <CineFX3D_> where is root terminal in breezy gone??
[05:02] <ali> is it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine
[05:02] <mikebot> wastrel, as what we were talking about before, are there any plans to reimplement the menu editing?
[05:02] <Toma-> CineFX3D_, its hidden from root monsters
[05:02] <Madpilot> CineFX3D_, it was removed from the menu - just use a regular term + sudo...
[05:02] <CineFX3D_> I see ;)
[05:02] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: I think that was a Gnome decision (a poor one IMHO)
[05:02] <_jason> CineFX3D_: sudo -s, will give you one
[05:02] <Lao> Vylar: what I have been doing, and it's helped me alot with learning how Linux actually works, is installing and messing around in terminal until I break it
[05:03] <wastrel> mikebot:  i've actually heard about a menu editor they use in edubuntu to simplify menus for kids... might ask in that channel
[05:03] <CineFX3D_> I know, thanks.. looks like GNOME thing after all..poor one
[05:03] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: oh, maybe I misread
[05:03] <ali> is it possible to access windows printer from ubuntu? i cannot print driver .ppd is installed in my machine
[05:03] <ali> anyone ???????????
[05:03] <ali> anyone????????????
[05:03] <Toma-> hidden from people that like to use # mplayer dvd:// because they setup dvd wrong
[05:03] <mikebot> wastrel, okay, thanks
[05:03] <Installer36> Ali yes it is possible but I dont know how
[05:03] <_adub> what is the latest stable kernel that i can apt-get install
[05:03] <ali> thanks for the reply Installer36 no one here reply even :(
[05:03] <ali> so sad
[05:04] <Lao> ali: is it on a network or directly connected to the computer?
[05:04] <Xenguy> ali: repeating just gets you /ignored typically
[05:04] <tritium> ali: you're not patient enough
[05:04] <Madpilot> _adub, Ubuntu will automatically notify you if there's a kernel update available
[05:04] <ali> on the network
[05:04] <Vylar1978> were is a site that tells the differnt commands to use on linux
[05:04] <mdmkolbe> this may be an odd question but what wiki software does the ubuntu wiki use?
[05:04] <ali> sorry for that tritium
[05:04] <Madpilot> !tell Vylar1978 about cli
[05:04] <Toma-> !bash
[05:04] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:04] <Toma-> i c
[05:04] <Madpilot> mdmkolbe, MoinMoin
[05:04] <tritium> ali: no problem
[05:04] <ali> Lao its on the network
[05:05] <mdmkolbe> Madpilot: thx again
[05:05] <Lao> ali: I know theres a windows networking device called Samba, try using that and if you have to just send files to another computere and print there
[05:05] <Toma-> wow... i asked that just 5 mins ago mdmkolbe
[05:05] <Toma-> :P
[05:05] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: there's this tho (not sure if it applies to you)...
[05:05] <elaverick> Anyone able to give me some assistance?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Acer Laptop and it keeps hanging part way through installing remaining packages.
[05:05] <Engla> mdmkolbe: and moinmoin is in the repos if you want it
[05:05] <ali> that is 98 Lao i cannot send all the time
[05:05] <Xenguy> !tell CineFX3D_ about terminal
[05:05] <Lao> Ali: yea I caught it I just take forever to type
[05:05] <ali> samba is there working
[05:05] <_adub> madpilot im using kubuntu
[05:05] <Vylar1978> what is cli
[05:05] <tritium> command line interface
[05:06] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: command line interface
[05:06] <Madpilot> _adub, same back end
[05:06] <Vylar1978> I found that now lol
[05:06] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: as opposed to GUI
[05:06] <Madpilot> Vylar1978, the bot should have sent you a msg with a bunch of URLs?
[05:06] <Vylar1978> I got my floopy to work thatnks to it
[05:06] <Lao> Ali: well its something till you can find a good LUG that can help
[05:06] <Vylar1978> I only got one that I seen
[05:06] <ali> LUG what is that ?
[05:06] <_adub> madpilot
[05:06] <_adub> ok
[05:06] <dolson> does anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?
[05:06] <Boelcke> Silly question: I've also installed the XFCE desktop, and now that I have, the bootup sequence is a blue Xubuntu, rather than the brown Ubuntu I've been used to seeing.
[05:07] <Madpilot> Vylar1978, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[05:07] <Boelcke> Any ideas on how to change that back?
[05:07] <Lao> Ali: a LUG is a local Linux users group
[05:07] <wastrel> night
[05:07] <ali> ok
[05:07] <Burgundavia> has anyone used aegis virus scanner? How does it stack up to clamav?
[05:07] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: in GNOME, Apps > Accessories > Terminal
[05:07] <ali> thanks for the advice Lao
[05:07] <Lao> Ali: try searching the web and looking for Lugs in your area, I've seen alot of them can be found at local universities
[05:07] <Vylar1978> why does it keep asking for password every time I do commands
[05:07] <Xenguy> Burgundavia: clamav seems to be the one most folks use
[05:08] <ali> ok
[05:08] <ali> i will try Lao
[05:08] <Lao> there's two near my place in New Jersey, and I'm trying to start one.
[05:08] <Burgundavia> Xenguy: have you used aegis?
[05:08] <Madpilot> Vylar1978, sudo should keep your pw for about 5 or 10 minutes, each time you use it
[05:08] <ali> good luck Lao
[05:08] <Xenguy> Burgundavia: heh - I've used neither ;-)
[05:08] <Lao> Ali: good luck man don't loose faith =-)
[05:08] <Toma-> Vylar1978, like Madpilot said, but if you open another terminal, youll need to enter sudo password again
[05:08] <werther> ok, I'm trying to get ssh port tunneling to work...I'm on a box behind a firewall, and I have a server...I want the server to forward a port to my box
[05:08] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: if the operation needs 'root access', then you'll be prompted for your password
[05:08] <Toma-> in the new terminal
[05:09] <_adub> what is the latest kernel i can apt-get install
[05:09] <werther> I tried "ssh -R 8080:localhost:8080 username@myserver"...but I get a connection refused
[05:09] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: easiest is just to sudo once with 'sudo -i'
[05:09] <Madpilot> _adub, I've already answered that question for you - you'll get a notification on the desktop of updates...
[05:09] <Lao> anyone know how I can get the latest version of Firefox... it's not considered "stable" yet, but I want it
[05:09] <_adub> even in kde
[05:10] <Madpilot> _adub, as far as I know, yes - but ask in #kubuntu
[05:10] <Crshman> which is the best wifi manager for ubuntu? there are a few to choose from; wifi-radar, network-manager, gtk wifi.....
[05:10] <Vylar1978>  ok I will brb and see what I can come up with
[05:10] <_adub> madpilot what kernel are you running
[05:10] <Lao> Crshman: im using wifi radar and its amazing
[05:10] <Krillancello> So can anyone help me fix my X server?
[05:10] <Madpilot> _adub, 2.6.12-10-k7
[05:10] <CineFX3D_> " If you want to be able to right-click on the desktop or a folder to open the terminal, install nautilus-open-terminal (sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal)" - but I don't see it in right click :/
[05:10] <nalioth> Lao: developer.mozilla.com
[05:11] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: you may have to login again
[05:11] <V4Vendetta> usted consigui escalfar ese castor salvaje
[05:11] <Toma-> ubotu, tell Lao about ff1.5
[05:11] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: it does work tho
[05:11] <CineFX3D_> thanks
[05:11] <Madpilot> CineFX3D_, try closing & restarting nautilus
[05:11] <Crshman> Lao: ok i'll try that one
[05:11] <nalioth> !es
[05:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:11] <Lao> HEY nalioth, thanks for the help with my wifi card its running like a champ now
[05:11] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: what Madpilot said
[05:11] <V4Vendetta> nalioth~ i speak english :-P
[05:11] <nalioth> Lao: any time
[05:11] <_adub> is there a later kernel i can apt-get install
[05:12] <_adub> from the main repositories
[05:12] <nalioth> V4Vendetta: then while in #ubuntu, please speak it
[05:12] <Madpilot> _adub, there will be when Dapper releases in mid-April
[05:12] <CineFX3D_> and it works :)
[05:12] <werther> ok, why can I ping my ip address, but not localhost?
[05:12] <endeavormac> can someone help me out. I do not have an Ubuntu distro installed, but a friend of mine does and I'm trying to help him get python installed. Can someone please do an apt-cache search python and let me know what the name of the package is that he needs to apt-get install?
[05:12] <lgc> Hello everyone from Mexico! Can anyone help me?
[05:12] <Crshman> i'm having an issue with my wireless....it does work, it does connect, i can use the internet....but after about 2 minutes the connections just stop i can't ping, i can't surf nothing....then after another minute or so all returns to normal.....any ideas as this is quite annoying
[05:12] <Toma-> 2.6.10 is in the repos... i think
[05:12] <cozby> hey got an install issue, im trying to install Xubuntu (the XFCE way) , i'm following the guide on the website, but it goes downhill after i run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop , it tells me to insert the disk labled 5.10_breezy badger_ ?
[05:12] <CineFX3D_> now if I could only find original wallpaper from hoary..the sparkle one.. can't find it anywhere :/
[05:12] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: it should be there by default IMHO :p
[05:12] <V4Vendetta> nalioth~ si :-D
[05:12] <CineFX3D_> Xenguy: yes it should!
[05:12] <nalioth> lgc: try #ubuntu-es
[05:12] <Toma-> cozby, have you got your install CD in the drive?
[05:13] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: er, the right-click terminal I mean
[05:13] <cozby> i dont even know what cd thats referring to im guessing the install one.
[05:13] <werther> is lo not setup correctly?
[05:13] <Toma-> cozby, u guessed it
[05:13] <cozby> it give me a y/n option, and if i say n - the install aborts?
[05:13] <slartibartfast> hi, can anyone suggest a way to make a completely functional backup from one partition to another?
[05:13] <lgc> nalioth, Hello again. My problem isn't English -well, not especially-.
[05:13] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: define 'functional' :)
[05:13] <Toma-> cozby, you can remove the cd repo from your sources.list and then apt-get update
[05:13] <elaverick> Anyone able to help me with a hanging install?
[05:13] <marc> What is the program in Ubuntu that installs software directly from the net ???
[05:14] <Madpilot> lgc, if you just ask your question, someone might be able to help you...
[05:14] <Crshman> apt-get?
[05:14] <Toma-> just make sure main is enabled in sources.list
[05:14] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: Bootable
[05:14] <intelikey> ok problem with cups on 5.4 ubuntu    user starts a print job with too few sheets of paper  the printer automatically pauses,  but now the user can not continue the printing and must call the sysadmin.   what's the "prefered" sulution ?
[05:14] <cozby> omg, im a idiot,all this timei thought the cd was int here
[05:14] <Boelcke> Cozby, I installed xfce4 with synaptec, worked OK...
[05:14] <Madpilot> marc, apt-get (Synaptic is the graphical one)
[05:14] <werther> is default install supposed to be able to ping localhost?
[05:14] <cozby> sorry
[05:14] <endeavormac> i would really appreciate some help
[05:14] <Toma-> marc, synaptic
[05:14] <cozby> im a moron
[05:14] <werther> (or do anything with localhost...)
[05:14] <cozby> no wonder it wasn't working. i just realized i took it out after reboot
[05:14] <Toma-> werther, if you have lo running, yes
[05:14] <marc> were do i get it
[05:14] <Toma-> cozby, teehehehe :D
[05:14] <werther> Toma-, weird...would rebooting possibly help?
[05:15] <cozby> ;) wow im a total ass
[05:15] <cozby> haha
[05:15] <Toma-> marc, its installed by default. System > Admin > Synaptic
[05:15] <Boelcke> marc, System, Administration, Synaptec Package Manager
[05:15] <Toma-> werther, yes.
[05:15] <werther> brb
[05:15] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: hrm, I bet it is doable, but probably requires some tricks (I can't say how offhand)
[05:15] <marc> ok thx
[05:15] <eth0> hi, could anyone tell me what package i need to install to develope in c? i already have build-essential, but that's not enough, i dont even have header files like conio.h and stuff
[05:15] <lgc> Madpilot, it's an easy one now: What is what I have to install to have the C  (and C++) manuals online?
[05:15] <RollyW> anybody know if dvd shrink is available for linux?
[05:15] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: thanks I was hoping there would be something easier than dd
[05:16] <Madpilot> lgc, I'm the wrong person to ask for that - I'm not a programmer
[05:16] <fatbrain> How can I re-install GRUB ?
[05:16] <Extreme_Unction> Heh, "Type in make and pray"
[05:16] <Toma-> eth0, get the package "apt-file" then run "apt-file search conio.h", itll tell you what packages you need specifically
[05:16] <intelikey> fatbrain sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:16] <Toma-> RollyW, yep. look up PLF
[05:16] <Crshman> what is defined as an RX error? \(obviously RX = recieve)
[05:16] <Toma-> !plf
[05:16] <fatbrain> intelikey: thanks
[05:16] <ubotu> well, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[05:17] <Toma-> there u go
[05:17] <intelikey> ok problem with cups on 5.4 ubuntu    user starts a print job with too few sheets of paper  the printer automatically pauses,  but now the user can not continue the printing and must call the sysadmin.   what's the "prefered" sulution ?
[05:17] <nalioth> lgc: search in synaptic, the docs for what you seek are there
[05:17] <eth0> toma: ok, thanks, ill give it a shot
[05:17] <Lao> well I'm off see you folks later
[05:17] <Toma-> eth0, np :) good luck
[05:17] <gleesond> how do I turn off my NIC before installing the driver
[05:17] <Lao> good luck everyone
[05:17] <endeavormac> Is there a website which lists the Ubuntu apt packages?
[05:17] <tritium> intelikey: that looks exactly like a problem someone was having a minute ago...oh, wait...that was you
[05:17] <nalioth> endeavormac: packages.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <Madpilot> endeavormac, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <Xenguy> gleesond: ifdown eth0  ?
[05:17] <endeavormac> ok, thank you
[05:18] <Toma-> intelikey, theres no resume button on the printer?
[05:18] <intelikey> yes tritium that was a repost.
[05:18] <tritium> intelikey: I'm just giving you a hard time ;)
[05:18] <Toma-> intelikey, ur IRC'ing as root?
[05:18] <Extreme_Unction> ROOT HIM!1
[05:18] <intelikey> Toma- there is a resume button on the ubuntu desktop but it requires root access.       and i'm not root.
[05:19] <lgc> Madpilot, thanks. nalioth. What is what I have to fiddle with in synaptic? I have no idea!
[05:19] <gleesond> Xenguy: my next question is how do I bring it up again?
[05:19] <Toma-> whois says otherwise :D
[05:19] <Extreme_Unction> IGC: What do you want from synaptic?
[05:19] <nalioth> lgc: search for "docs"
[05:19] <Xenguy> gleesond: ifup eth0  ?
[05:19] <gleesond> ah
[05:19] <eth0> grndlvl: im not registered
[05:19] <gleesond> thanks
[05:19] <Toma-> intelikey, is the user in the printing group?
[05:19] <intelikey> Toma- whois doesn't know everything.
[05:19] <eth0> grndlvl: im not sure if it's just header fies
[05:19] <Toma-> :P
[05:19] <CineFX3D_> which irc client you use in ubuntu guys?
[05:20] <Toma-> intelikey, see if the user is in the lpadmin group
[05:20] <bobby> xchat
[05:20] <bobby> or irssi :)
[05:20] <Toma-> CineFX3D_, telnet
[05:20] <Toma-> :P
[05:20] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: irssi-text (console-based)
[05:20] <Madpilot> CineFX3D_, XChat
[05:20] <CineFX3D_> ;P telnet
[05:20] <bobby> Toma-, uber hardc0re ey? :P
[05:20] <elaverick> Is it possible to install a full Ubuntu install from inside a minimal install?
[05:20] <intelikey> hmmmm printing group you say.... i'll have to check that, but i think so.   i don't have hands on  atm  just trying to find new ideas on the issue.
[05:20] <eth0> grndlvl: i already have libglib
[05:21] <nalioth> elaverick: sure it is
[05:21] <La_PaRCa> elaverick, yeah, just install the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:21] <eth0> toma: didb't work
[05:21] <Toma-> nah i use xchat :(
[05:21] <eth0> grndlvl: talk in here
[05:21] <Extreme_Unction> I'm trying to play zsnes and I get "Sound init failed" my default sound is Alsa, what does Zsness use? Can I use aoss to prevent this?
[05:21] <Toma-> custom alias's tho :D
[05:21] <marc> How do i get Wine install
[05:21] <Toma-> eth0, damn.
[05:21] <elaverick> Ah right, so if I go for a server install (hopefully that will complete) I can then just apt-get the desktop from there
[05:21] <Toma-> have you got source repos enabled in your sources.list?
[05:21] <raghu> marc: apt-get install wine
[05:22] <RollyW> where is the default location for sources.list?
[05:22] <Toma-> eth0, ^^^
[05:22] <Toma-> RollyW, /etc/apt/
[05:22] <Xenguy> RollyW: /etc/apt
[05:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marc about wine
[05:22] <eth0> toma: i think so
[05:22] <intelikey> Toma- you think the use would be able to print but not "resume" a print job   because of not being in a group ?     i really hadn't thought of that....
[05:23] <gleesond> ah
[05:23] <eth0> toma: yeah, i have
[05:23] <eth0> is ubuntu just not good for programming or something?
[05:23] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: I found a writeup on the forums that says
[05:23] <Toma-> intelikey, yeh. well the whole sudo thing sounds wack to me. is it a multi-user system this persons on?
[05:23] <nalioth> eth0: it's as good as any linux distro for that purpose
[05:23] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: I can simply use tar to compress it all
[05:23] <intelikey> Toma- yes it is
[05:23] <Toma-> eth0, no, its good...
[05:24] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: tar doesn't compress without gzip
[05:24] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: but whatever works
[05:24] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: with gzip of cours
[05:24] <Toma-> intelikey, i see. sometimes adding new users dont get all the group prividges as the 1st user gets. :( make sure they are in the correct groups
[05:24] <eth0> toma: how do i get started then?
[05:24] <darthbutcher> Hey.
[05:24] <intelikey> Toma- and the sudo setup on that system has no group entries in it,  it's a pretty tight system.
[05:24] <slartibartfast> Xenguy: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311&highlight=disk+copy
[05:25] <Toma-> eth0, i dont program sorry :( i wish i could tho...
[05:25] <eth0> nalioth: any ideas how to get setup programming in c?
[05:25] <lgc> nalioth, I got "documentation" selected. And then I try to double-click on "gcc-3.3-doc", for example. But nothing happens. How should I access to its contents?
[05:25] <Toma-> ahh i goto go
[05:26] <intelikey> and yeah Toma- i'll give groups a through going over there.   thanks for the thoughts.
[05:26] <Toma-> np
[05:26] <Toma-> cyas
[05:26] <Grndlvl> eth0 stupid question but you have gcc installed right?
[05:26] <tritium> eth0: you really want to "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[05:26] <eth0> grn: yeah
[05:27] <eth0> tritium: i already have build-essential
[05:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> eth0: Install 'build-essential', install an IDE (like anjuta, for instance, or just a syntax-aware text editor), and you should be rocking.
[05:27] <tritium> eth0: then what's the problem?
[05:27] <nalioth> eth0: grab some source code and get to compiling
[05:27] <amyn> when i unpack those codecs for playing my mp3's from winxp mounted partition. Following errors occured: Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...
[05:27] <amyn> dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)
[05:27] <amyn> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
[05:27] <amyn> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[05:27] <amyn>  short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/lib/win32/LCodcCMP.dll')
[05:27] <amyn> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:27] <amyn>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:27] <tritium> amyn: stop that
[05:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> amyn: Don't paste in here, use pastebin.
[05:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ...
[05:28] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[05:28] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:28] <Xenguy> slartibartfast: looks like a decent thread
[05:28] <RollyW> when i add repositories, i need to refresh or something, correct?
[05:28] <tritium> yes, RollyW
[05:28] <eth0> im trying to compile, but i get missing header files and other things
[05:28] <intelikey> eth0 dpkg -l build-essential   and make sure that it is not broken or partially installed.
[05:28] <RollyW> is ti just "sudo apt-get refresh"?
[05:28] <tritium> eth0: then you've not installed the -dev libraries that you need
[05:28] <tritium> RollyW: sudo apt-get update
[05:28] <RollyW> kk, cool. thanks
[05:28] <eth0> tritium: what are the libraries called?
[05:28] <nalioth> eth0: what are you trying to compile
[05:29] <tritium> eth0: you tell me.  What are you compiling?  What libs does it need?
[05:29] <nalioth> amyn: please use a pastebin to paste things
[05:29] <amyn> sorry for that
[05:29] <eth0> it needs conio.j and stdio.h
[05:29] <eth0> it's just a simple program
[05:29] <amyn> can someone pls help me in those errors ?
[05:29] <jrsims> hey, I installed ubuntu server and fluxbox. How do I install X?
[05:30] <nalioth> jrsims: installing flux, should have installed X
[05:30] <jrsims> nalioth: install x first?
[05:30] <amyn> nalioth, i forgot the url
[05:30] <nalioth> jrsims: you said you 'installed' fluxbox or are goin to install it
[05:30] <RollyW> does the deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free not include dvdshrink?
[05:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> eth0: You may need to manually specify the locations of those files.  I think it's the -L option for gcc, but it's been awhile since I've used that.
[05:30] <Xenguy> eth0: someone already suggesting using apt-file to locate appropriate packages for the files you want
[05:30] <intelikey> amyn  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/packages/*.deb     and try again   ?
[05:30] <jrsims> nalioth: got fluxbox from apt-get, now it says I need to install x. startx doesn't work.
[05:30] <Grndlvl> eth0 not much with the c programming on nix but can you not install the cstdio library?
[05:31] <nalioth> jrsims: install xserver-xorg or x-windows-system
[05:31] <eth0> xenguy: i did but the search came up with nothing
[05:31] <jrsims> nalioth: are they the same?
[05:31] <eth0> i've searched my whole hd for conio.h but it's non-existent
[05:31] <nalioth> jrsims: one will get you more goodies
[05:31] <public> hey i have a couple of ubuntu boxes behind an ubuntu dhcp server.  for some reason it will give them ip's but it wont set their default route. how do i get it to do that (so i dont have to do route add default gw <my network> on every machine every time i boot one up) ?
[05:32] <jrsims> nalioth: which is that? I'm trying to keep things light.
[05:32] <amyn> intelikey, rm: cannot remove `/var/cache/apt/packages/*.deb': No such file or directory
[05:32] <nalioth> jrsims: both will keep you 'light'
[05:32] <jrsims> nalioth: so which do you recommend?
[05:32] <Xenguy> eth0: I see what you mean...
[05:33] <intelikey> amyn well find the correct directory name with the tab key :)
[05:33] <amyn> nalioth, what is the url of pastebin ?
[05:33] <public> no one knows?
[05:33] <Xenguy> eth0: there must be a good HOWTO out there somewhere (IANAP BTW)
[05:33] <tritium> amyn: see the topic
[05:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell amyn about paste
[05:33] <Xenguy> amyn: /topic
[05:33] <eth0> xenguy: i've looked already
[05:33] <intelikey> amyn  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/[tab] [tab] <type the correct dir>/*.deb     and try again   ?
[05:34] <eth0> bah i hope i dont have to go back to slack again
[05:34] <amyn> ok
[05:34] <eth0> :((
[05:34] <eth0> i was fiddling around with glib a few days back, could that be the cause of it?
[05:34] <eth0> i mean i updated the bog standard glib
[05:34] <bestadvocate> Hey, I'm looking for some advice,  I am currently running i386 Ubuntu on my AMD64, I'd like to switch but I use my computer primarally as a Media Player.  I read on the Restricted Formats page that VServer and dchroot were reccomended ways to install win32codecs.  Which of these is better?  Is there a page that describes the next step after installing the programs?
[05:35] <eth0> but it didn't work out to well
[05:35] <intelikey> eth0 no you don't have to go back to slackware  use gentoo   hehheh
[05:35] <jrsims> nalioth: so which do you recommend?
[05:35] <eth0> why gentoo?
[05:35] <nalioth> bestadvocate: if you are running the i386 kernel, you are fine, no chroot needed
[05:35] <amyn> intelikey, root@amin:/home/amin# sudo rm /var/cache/apt/
[05:35] <nalioth> jrsims: one or the other
[05:35] <amyn> archives/        pkgcache.bin     srcpkgcache.bin
[05:35] <frank23> bestadvocate: as a fellow amd64 owner, I suggest you stick with the i386 version
[05:35] <jrsims> nalioth: well, which gets me all the extra goodies - and what are these goodies?
[05:35] <intelikey> archives amyn
[05:35] <frank23> bestadvocate: you can use the k7 kernel though
[05:35] <eth0> cant even frigging program in this one
[05:36] <nalioth> jrsims: believe me, they won't bulk up the system. i'm surprised installing fluxbox didnt pull in the xserver
[05:36] <Wammy|> anyone willing to help me get the soundcard on this laptop working? been trying for the past 2 days. I am willing to pay. i just need it working.
[05:36] <tritium> apt-get clean is preferable to removing the directory and its contents manually
[05:36] <jrsims> nalioth: k. thanks!
[05:36] <nalioth> eth0: you can program fine. you CAN'T find the files you're looking for
[05:36] <intelikey>     amyn      archives   packages   what's the differance....  lol
[05:36] <Grndlvl> eth0 tried installing g++ because the library you are using is c++ not c
[05:36] <jrsims> QUERY! In IRSSI, Is there a quick way to go to the command line without quitting?
[05:37] <eth0> grndlvl: it's definitely for c
[05:37] <bestadvocate> frank23: I think I will continue doing so, documentation and support are all a lot better on i386 unfortunately.
[05:37] <nalioth> jrsims: run irssi in a screen session
[05:37] <ubuntu_newbie> jrsims, can you CTRL-Z to get to the command line, then 'fg 1' to get back?
[05:37] <nalioth> ubuntu_newbie: no  no no
[05:37] <nalioth> jrsims: no don't do it
[05:37] <amyn> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9656
[05:37] <jrsims> I know. I 'm nit
[05:37] <jrsims> not
[05:37] <nalioth> jrsims: ctrl-z hard quits irssi
[05:37] <Grndlvl> sorry nver messed w/ c b4
[05:37] <goemaat_ubuntu> Hmm...  CTRL-Z worked for me
[05:37] <_jason> jrsims: you can run quick commands with /exec too
[05:37] <intelikey> amyn looking
[05:38] <nalioth> jrsims: learn 'gnu screen'
[05:38] <goemaat_ubuntu> maybe if you stay out long enough CTRL-Z quits I guess...
[05:38] <jrsims> Kinda like in vim, I can run :sh to get to the shell, then "exit" to return to vim
[05:38] <public> hey i have a couple of ubuntu boxes behind an ubuntu dhcp server.  for some reason it will give them ip's but it wont set their default route. how do i get it to do that (so i dont have to do route add default gw <my network> on every machine every time i boot one up) ? i think it's a problem with the server right?
[05:38] <nalioth> my ctrl-z immediatly hard stops my irssi. leaving a ghost on the network
[05:39] <SuShI-X2> I'm getting this debootstrap error when I'm trying to install the base package.  Any ideas?
[05:39] <frank23> bestadvocate: since you're using the i386 version of ubuntu, all that i386 stuff applies to you too.
[05:39] <frank23> bestadvocate: the AMD64 version of ubuntu is different (another CD)  only AMD64 processors can run that one
[05:40] <fn_> i want install ubuntu on many pcs, should it done one by one or is there a better way ?
[05:40] <fn_> like norton ghost thing
[05:40] <intelikey> amyn you need to re-download the package w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb      (short read)     means it ran out of data.
[05:41] <frank23> bestadvocate: the chroot stuff is for running 32bit programs on the AMD64 version of Ubuntu
[05:41] <bestadvocate> frank23 yes I know, I was considering using the AMD64 compiled version.  (everything is already working on this install, but I need to re-install anyway and was considering a switch in versions. perhaps next year)
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> fn_,  could install to one, then use mondo/mindi to make a backup/restore cd set
[05:41] <Xenguy> eth0: FWIW, here's a link I came across; it may or may not be remotely useful :-)  http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/introdeveloperdocs-0510121817/introdeveloperdocs-0.05/IntroDeveloperDoc_v0.05.pdf
[05:41] <odat> hi everyone
[05:41] <eth0> hmm, i think it's just using that conio.h when there is a problem, it understands all the others
[05:42] <frank23> bestadvocate: yeah, I'm not going to switch until installing a i386 program can be done completely transparently. I don't know how long that will take
[05:42] <fn_> really ?? ok then.. i ll read the manual first
[05:42] <odat> i have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 2     error
[05:42] <fn_> thanks Dr_Willis
[05:42] <intelikey> amyn i see that you are installing with dpkg   i should have paid a little closer attention,   but the error is the same.    the archive / package  is incomplete.   get a new one.
[05:42] <jerrod> how do i upgrade to flash v8 in mozilla?
[05:42] <nalioth> bestadvocate: stay with an x86 arch
[05:42] <frank23> jerrod: macromedia never released flash 8 for linux
[05:42] <amyn> intelikey,  in short what ive to do now ?
[05:43] <intelikey> re-download
[05:43] <eth0> xenguy: thanks :)
[05:43] <holy_cow> http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/03/03/004215.shtml  <-- anyone try this yet in a windows channel?
[05:43] <holy_cow> hehe
[05:44] <Xenguy> eth0: HTH :-)
[05:44] <amyn> i also unpacked sudo dpkg -i realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb it got installed successfully but when i right click 'open with' for a mp3 song i cant see realplayer in the 'open with' list
[05:44] <eth0> grndlvl: are u sure conio.h is c++ and not c?
[05:44] <odat> i have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 2
[05:44] <_jason> jerrod: macromedia has not released 8 for linux afaik
[05:44] <dolson> does anyone know of a really simple app like Thoggen but for another format, such as XviD or MPEG?
[05:45] <goemaat> Can someone tell me where to get w32codecs for breezy?  I can't seem to find it anywhere...
[05:45] <ithiel> hi
[05:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell goemaat about w32codecs
[05:45] <jerrod> dangit! thanx guys
[05:45] <sol1> I'm getting a 2.6.15 kernel onto an ubuntu install cd.
[05:45] <intelikey> amyn that may require restarting gnome before it will show up    idk.
[05:45] <sol1> I've got everything working fine on a vanilla kernel.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> goemaat,  i normally go to the mplayer homepage and get the latest :P some times its a little more up to date.
[05:45] <sol1> Just, no /dev/rd/0
[05:45] <sol1> Does anyone know what provides a /dev/rd/0 node?
[05:46] <intelikey> sol1 udev
[05:46] <CineFX3D_> sudo smbpasswd -a `whoami` ..what does this do? I installed samba.. can this line work?
[05:46] <intelikey> sol1 udev  devfs   or  MAKEDEV
[05:46] <amyn> intelikey,  which pakage is suitable for ubuntu of videolan :- Mandrake,Debian/Linux,Fedora... which 1 shall i select ? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[05:46] <nalioth> amyn: vlc is in the repos
[05:46] <tritium> amyn: ubuntu packages
[05:47] <frank23> amyn: you can use synaptic to install vlc
[05:47] <intelikey> amyn did you read the messages form ubotu ?
[05:47] <sol1> intelikey: I mean't the kernel module.
[05:47] <sol1> Do you know if it's just initrd?
[05:47] <odat> will regular ubuntu install and work on a 64 bit machine?
[05:47] <amyn> intelikey, yes i did
[05:47] <CineFX3D_> how can I restart samba?
[05:47] <nalioth> odat: there are 64bit ubuntu installs
[05:47] <tritium> CineFX3D_: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[05:47] <SuShI-X2> I'm getting this debootstrap error when I'm trying to install the base package.  Any ideas?
[05:47] <intelikey> amyn did you read the wiki links that ubotu sent ?
[05:48] <odat> nalioth, yea i know but i am trying to track down an error
[05:48] <rsyncx> ugh with exim autogenerated stuff. local_domainsDEBCONF is being ignored
[05:48] <odat> nalioth, i have a machine with 2 2.6 xeon processors in it and i have installed ubuntu twice on the same machine each time when the installation is done and it needs to reboot i get a grub error 2
[05:48] <rsyncx> i am trying to generate a file but it just plainly ignores the config file and sets it to localhost.localdomain
[05:48] <rsyncx> for exim4
[05:49] <nalioth> odat: wow, is that on some rare hardware?
[05:49] <amyn> intelikey, ive downloaded that .deb file thrice
[05:49] <odat> nalioth, i don't believe so there is one thing that is weird though when i install it shows to scsi drives but i know they are ide drives
[05:50] <nalioth> odat: you may need to ask in #grub
[05:51] <intelikey> amyn i'm sorry.    all i have to go on is the error message.  (short read) aka out of data  ?
[05:52] <co-band> rara
[05:52] <amyn> now when i open synaptic package installer it gave me these errors on starting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9657
[05:52] <rsyncx> does this update-exim4.conf suppose to work wholeheartedly or just sometimes?
[05:52] <rsyncx> seems like it is broken
[05:52] <rsyncx> or i am missing something
[05:52] <knite> do you guys know if there's a partition tool built into the install process of ubuntu?
[05:52] <intelikey> amyn how did you dl that file ?     cause if you use ff it probably only dled it one time and then used it's cache each consecutive time.    get the url and do a  wget -c <url>
[05:53] <knite> i.e.  can someone resize an NTFS partition?
[05:53] <Engla> amyn: hit the reload button
[05:53] <rsyncx> setting dc_local_domains variable, but it is just being ignored.
[05:53] <el_verde> how does the identify thing work?
[05:53] <rsyncx> anyone running exim here?
[05:53] <nalioth> knite: yes, there is. it's called partman
[05:53] <nalioth> knite: yes, ntfs resizing works well
[05:54] <nalioth> el_verde: /msg nickserv help register
[05:54] <knite> nalioth: integrated into the install process?
[05:54] <intelikey> knite  yes   but i sujest you shrink your partition with winxp's tool  and just leave unallocated space for your ub install.
[05:54] <nalioth> amyn: run 'check for new packages'
[05:54] <knite> intelikey: oh, i didn't know you can shrink partition in winxp itself
[05:54] <nalioth> knite: you cannot.
[05:55] <nalioth> knite: not w/o losing a partition
[05:55] <amyn> nalioth, ive already hitted reload as Engla said
[05:55] <nalioth> amyn: that should fix you up.
[05:56] <amyn> intelikey, what is the use of -c in wgetting ?
[05:57] <intelikey> i don't have winxp  but i understood that it had a partitioning tool that could resize it's ntfs partitions.
[05:57] <intelikey> amyn -c continue      i.e. if you have part of the file keep that part and get the rest.
[05:57] <nalioth> intelikey: it's destructive resizing
[05:58] <nalioth> amyn: -c 'continues' where the process stopped, if necessary
[05:58] <amyn> Error: Could not download all repro http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:58] <nalioth> amyn: run your update again
[05:58] <intelikey> nalioth you mean to tell me that M$ has not gotten past that yet......     damn !    that's really sad.
[05:59] <perry753> whats the latest Ubuntu kernel released?
[05:59] <biovore> kinda light today.. only 637 users in here..
[05:59] <babo_> what's the story with the firefox spellchecker ? I have version 1.5.0.1 of firefox but the spell checker won't install ?
[05:59] <babo_>  It doesn't give me any error, it just disappears from the screen. I'm installing the version for mozilla 1.5 so it should be o
[05:59] <babo_> Yes, I have asked over at #firefox
[06:00] <co-band> hallloooooooo.....
[06:00] <amyn> nalioth, did u mean to hit the Reload Button again ?
[06:00] <nalioth> amyn: yes, do that pleaes
[06:00] <babo_> Does anyone know of a good spell checker that I can use for html and web pages. I have about 4 different ones in various apps, but none of them work unfortunately
[06:01] <amyn> nalioth, yea done. NO ERRORS ATLAST lol. now how to installl VLC ?
[06:01] <Xenguy> babo_: does 'aspell' not work?
[06:01] <nalioth> amyn: search it out, select and install it
[06:01] <amyn> do i select those plugins of VLC as-well ?
[06:01] <intelikey> do i have server messages ?
[06:01] <co-band> hai......
[06:01] <CineFX3D_> how can I restart samba? /etc/rc.d is not there in ubuntu
[06:02] <nalioth> amyn: whatever you like
[06:02] <RollyW> is amd64 the same as i386?
[06:02] <lgc> nalioth, I loaded a bunch of doc packages, but I still can't manage to get the manual of "int", "fprintf" and so on.
[06:02] <Xenguy> CineFX3D_: in /etc/init.d  ?
[06:02] <Krillancello> Bah.
[06:02] <nalioth> RollyW: no. i386 is for 32bit chips. amd64 is for 64bit chips (amd or intel)
[06:02] <Krillancello> Gnome won't start properly now.
[06:03] <CineFX3D_> Xenguy: nah, can't find smb there
[06:03] <babo_> Xenguy: I was looking at aspell but I didn't install it for some reason ... I don't think they have a version for 1.5, but I'll check again ... thanks
[06:03] <CineFX3D_> I used to do /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
[06:03] <intelikey> nalioth you'll have to clue me in as to what you were referring to....   i see server messages scroll by along with channel messages  ?
[06:03] <fompon> is there a way to export email from thunderbird to evolution?
[06:03] <RollyW> will i386 run amd64 chips in 32 but mode?
[06:03] <RollyW> *bit
[06:04] <nalioth> RollyW: correct
[06:04] <Xenguy> babo_: sure.  Use the -H option for HTML
[06:05] <Xenguy> babo_: you can do tricks like: lynx -source http://some/url.html |aspell -H
[06:05] <nalioth> Xenguy: the console is great that way, ain't it?
[06:05] <amyn> when i marked vlc for installation. It's saying Mark Additional Requirement Changes libdvbpsi3 and libtar. Shall I select Mark , nalioth ?
[06:06] <nalioth> amyn: yes, you should.
[06:06] <Xenguy> nalioth: the cli is our friend :-)
[06:06] <babo_> Xenguy: ok, so I have aspell installed ... can I use it from the firefox gui ? I can't see any tool tab ?
[06:07] <lgc> nalioth, HELP, don't ignore me!
[06:07] <amyn> nalioth, it says ' Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade' details: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9658
[06:07] <Xenguy> babo_: re FF: no idea about that particular combination
[06:07] <jrattner1> How can I accept a Windows Xp "help inviation" and connect to the system
[06:07] <intelikey> aspell ispell pspell myspell
[06:07] <Xenguy> babo_: perhaps there is an extension (I really don't know for sure)
[06:07] <rsyncx> shit exim4 reconfigure is broken
[06:08] <babo_> Xenguy: hmmm ... but it's a firefox add in right ? It would only make sense that you could use it from the gui, since firefox usually isn't a cli program ?  ... anyway cool, I'll go and find out - thanks
[06:08] <gleesond> what file do I configure to give my computer a static IP
[06:08] <rsyncx> by standard local_domains must be taken from conf file but it is just being created on the fly by the script from 'localhost'
[06:08] <rsyncx> and other ones/.
[06:09] <nalioth> lgc: you haven't said anything
[06:09] <nalioth> amyn: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin please
[06:10] <lgc> nalioth, I did. I told you that I just installed a bunch of doc packages. But I still can't make the good old "man fprintf" work. Any ideas?
[06:10] <ubuntu> hi
[06:10] <jrattner1> How can I access a windows RAInvitation.msrcincident from linux?
[06:10] <oranged> cheers
[06:10] <nalioth> lgc: browse to /usr/share/docs/
[06:11] <ubuntu> who says "cheers"?
[06:11] <oranged> can someone give me a hand troubleshooting a python error with smeg?
[06:11] <intelikey> lgc http://tldp.org
[06:11] <ubuntu> Sorry, I didn't change my user name
[06:11] <lgc> nalioth, There's no such directory
[06:11] <amyn> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9659
[06:11] <intelikey> lgc http://tldp.org
[06:12] <jrsims> I've installed xorg, but I can't run startx. Help!
[06:12] <nalioth> lgc: if you don't have /usr/share/doc  you are in big trouble
[06:13] <bebeth> hi
[06:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jrsims about xcfg
[06:13] <intelikey> amyn i see multi-lines for universe.  no main
[06:13] <lgc> nalioth, why? I have /usr/share/doc. intelikey I'm looking at the page. Thanks.
[06:14] <RollyW> does ubuntu auto detect and install hardware drivers... becuse i suspect that my video card isnt doing everything it should?
[06:14] <nalioth> lgc: in that directory is all the docs you have installed
[06:14] <amyn> intelikey, what does that mean ?
[06:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RollyW: It tries to auto-detect, and it installs/configures teh open source drivers.  You may be able to get better performance from the official vendor-made ones.
[06:14] <bebeth> hi zibby!
[06:14] <amyn> intelikey, and what's wrong with that ?
[06:14] <RollyW> do they support linux driverS?
[06:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell amyn about easysource
[06:15] <nalioth> amyn: use that page for a good sources.list
[06:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RollyW: Some more than others.  nVidia provides excellent linux drivers, ATI not so much.
[06:15] <malt> Hello how would i add a ftp user in proftpd? i was reading howto and it said this setting for doing ftp user account is set in /etc/passwd what would i put in passwd to make a ftp user account for directory /var/www/
[06:15] <Xenguy> babo_: aspell is a generic cli spellchecker (I didn't know you were specifically looking for FF tool)
[06:15] <lgc> nalioth, you mean they went to never-never land?
[06:15] <RollyW> damn. so likely my x800 wont work as well under linux?
[06:16] <nalioth> lgc: i have several hundred folders in my /usr/share/doc, each corresponding to a program or way to do things
[06:16] <sagarp> when i plug in a usb device and dmesg says something like "using address 4" how can i access it? where is it created in /dev?
[06:16] <babo_> Xenguy: anything that would let me check the spelling on my websites would be perfect.
[06:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RollyW: Probably not.  You should see an increase in performance from switching to the official ATI drivers, but it won't be spectacular.
[06:16] <Spudchat> malt: proftpd uses allready existing user accounts on the machine..so the password is the same as the account
[06:17] <Xenguy> babo_: here's one way :-)  'lynx -source http://some/url.html |aspell --lang="en" -H list'
[06:17] <Xenguy> babo_: cli, no quotes
[06:17] <RollyW> because. the issues im having are with dvd's. The video seems gorssly off the audio, and most of the time it doesnt even render propely. Closes itself at certain scene switches. Also, Tux racing lags :P
[06:17] <RollyW> *grossly
[06:17] <lgc> nalioth, I swear I haven't messed with that directory. I even have access to countless man pages. Except those of C functions.
[06:17] <Spudchat> if you want to change the user name that logs in try : useralias useronmachine usernameyouwant
[06:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell RollyW about dma
[06:18] <malt> oh nice i see now thanks Spudchat <3
[06:18] <Xenguy> babo_: there may be easier ways
[06:18] <babo_> Xenguy: cool, one of my machines is a windoze box though ...
[06:18] <nalioth> lgc: /usr/share/docs has your docs.
[06:18] <malt> Im new to linux so im sorry if i ask stupid questions :/
[06:18] <Xenguy> babo_: and this is #ubuntu right? :-)
[06:18] <nalioth> malt: the only stupid question is the one you DON'T ask
[06:19] <babo_> Xenguy: I said one of my machines was windoze ... your solution will work fine on the ubuntu machine I'm using at the moment.
[06:19] <intelikey> really ?
[06:19] <Xenguy> !beer malt
[06:19] <ubotu> Xenguy: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:19] <ubuntu> shit
[06:19] <Xenguy> bah
[06:19] <ubuntu> shit
[06:19] <fompon> whats a good binary usenet client?
[06:19] <nalioth> fompon: pan
[06:19] <ubuntu> fucke
[06:19] <Spudchat> malt, also though i cant find the exact link right now http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Main_Page has a good howto on setting up proftpd
[06:20] <dli> after installation, how do I allow upgrading from network?
[06:20] <fompon> nalioth: thanks
[06:20] <nalioth> dli: your system will automatically check for updates, and let you know about them
[06:20] <Keyframe> how can I access windows box from linux? I have samba on ubuntu and I can access ubuntu box on windows..but not the way around?
[06:20] <gleesond> can someone tell me where the rc.conf lives?
[06:20] <fompon> nalioth: you wouldnt happen to know of any quickpar-like par2 program would you?
[06:20] <dli> nalioth, I'm using apt-cdrom right?
[06:20] <Spudchat> Keyframe, if you want to use remote desktop try rdesktop
[06:21] <dli> nalioth, and the system will auto do sources.list?
[06:21] <intelikey> gleesond i don't think there is one.
[06:21] <FlannelKing> Spudchat: he was talking about through samba, I think.
[06:21] <nalioth> fompon: sure i do. use par2
[06:21] <intelikey> gleesond /etc
[06:21] <nalioth> dli: if you have no network you need not worry about network updates, if you do have network, see above statement
[06:22] <Spudchat> allright hang on
[06:22] <gleesond> intelikey: i didn't see one in /etc
[06:22] <dli> nalioth, I just configured network
[06:22] <Keyframe> Spudchat: but I have samba working like this.. I can see linux box in windows.. I wish to mount somehow windows box in linux.. do I need samba on windows also or I need to make my Linux samba PDC and log windows onto it?
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> windows
[06:23] <nalioth> dli: then your system will keep you informed
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> windows's networn neighborhood stuff is their 'samba' :P
[06:23] <gleesond> can anyone tell me how to set up a static up for my box
[06:23] <Keyframe> :P
[06:23] <Keyframe> seriously now :)
[06:23] <dli> nalioth, if I apt-get install foo, the system will look up from network also?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Keyframe,  it may just be easier to use ssh and 'winscp' under linux.
[06:23] <nalioth> dli: yes, it should.
[06:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dli about repos
[06:23] <FlannelKing> gleesond: you're using ubuntu? kubuntu? no GUI?
[06:23] <Spudchat> Keyframe, im sorry but thats more than i know about samba
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Keyframe,  but samba is doable.  just may take a little reading and tweaking.
[06:24] <gleesond> kubuntu
[06:24] <nalioth> dli: read waht the bot says, and enable universe and multiverse repositories
[06:24] <gleesond> but I don't use the GUI very much
[06:24] <Spudchat> wait, did you try smb://windowsmachineiphere ?
[06:24] <Jambon> is the mozilla version of firefox any faster than the one in dapper?
[06:24] <Keyframe> Dr_Willis: Yea says I need to make PDC or something..bleh.. can't it work both ways since it works this way.. damn
[06:24] <lgc> nalioth, I was wrong. The info was in "doc" and not "docs". Hee-Ho! (I'm an ass****)! But still, I still can't see it clear, how I make my damn online C manuals work (excuse my naive impatience).
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Keyframe,  hmm.. i never messed with PDC stuff..
[06:25] <dli> nalioth, thanks, the howto is clear now
[06:25] <nalioth> lgc: you have three types of manual on your box  1) man  2) info and 3) the /usr/share/doc directory
[06:25] <gleesond> false alarm, my box already has a static ip
[06:26] <lgc> nalioth, I suppose the first 2 read from the last one...
[06:27] <nalioth_zZz> lgc: nope, they all have their own sources.
[06:27] <janno> !deb
[06:27] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[06:27] <Vylar1978> if your mouse locks up on you to were it won't move how do you shut down the computer by key command
[06:28] <Spudchat> Vylar1978, ctrl + alt + backspace restarts the desktop interface
[06:28] <Spudchat> maybe that will fix it?
[06:28] <dli> Vylar1978, or Ctl-Alt-F1
[06:29] <Vylar1978> thanks
[06:30] <lgc> nalioth_zZz, you are right. Yet I still can get what I want from "info" ("info fprintf" or "info int" still don't work).
[06:33] <majd> hey, i get a NAT error when i test port 47715 in Azureus, i'm behind a linksys router...what port should i use?
[06:33] <_jason> lgc: I think manpages-dev provide that
[06:33] <clever`rev> you just have to open the port azurues is told to use
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> majd,  several ports should be forwarded i belive.. the azurues homepage/docs/help mention them
[06:34] <unperson> I'm trying to burn an ISO onto a CD-R.  The ISO image is 695 MB and the disc says it is a 700 MB disc.  I selected the ISO image in nautilus and "write to disc", but I just keep getting a message telling me to insert a blank disc with at least 695 MB free.
[06:35] <unperson> How do I get this to work correctly?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  could be the disk is bad.. or it dsome how is not seeing the disk change
[06:35] <lgc> _jason, thanks. Let me try that.
[06:36] <unperson> Dr_Willis, You mean it's not seeing me put the disc in?  I think it is, because when I put the blank disk in it pops up on the desktop and the CD/DVD creator pops up.
[06:36] <sixslap> would some one please me how to login as root and how to edit my identd.conf
[06:36] <Xenguy> sixslap: sudo -i
[06:37] <sixslap> ok
[06:37] <Xenguy> sixslap: then you need an editor
[06:37] <unperson> There's also a burn data CD option when the CD/DVD creator dialog, but I'm not sure whether that will burn the ISO image or an ISO image of a filesystem containing the ISO image.
[06:37] <majd> Dr_Willis, i have my router set to allow ports 6881->6890 open for Azureus
[06:37] <sixslap> i have a editor
[06:37] <dstryr> how come i just installed nvidia driver and x still wont start?
[06:37] <sixslap> just din't know how to login as rrot
[06:37] <sixslap> root*
[06:38] <sixslap> <-----verb
[06:38] <intelikey> sixslap  sudo -i    will get you a root shell.
[06:38] <sixslap> ty
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> majd,  i twiddled and set up several ports - i was thinking the azurus docs/tips had links to sites with the exact info. a router with that upnp stuff helps as well
[06:38] <sixslap> one more question
[06:38] <intelikey> ooops...... i think i'm detached from the server....
[06:39] <sixslap> do you have to allow server attemps for identd to work properly
[06:40] <lgc> _jason, bingo! Got it. Thanks! (I still don't get any manual for "int", though). Any clue?
[06:40] <unperson> Ok, if I select "Burn Data CD" when the CD/DVD creator dialog comes up, can I just drag the ISO image file to the window and then select "Burn to Disc"?
[06:40] <_amin> ive succefully installed those win32 codex*.deb and vlc from synaptic. Now how do i use them ? vlc is not yet appeared in Apllications tab on the top left
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  run 'vlc' from the command line.
[06:40] <jrattner1> How do I accept a Microsoft help invitation inlinux
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  that may just copy the iso image to the disk.. not what you want.
[06:41] <unperson> Dr_Willis, Yes, that was my fear.
[06:41] <knite> jrattner1: uhh...  maybe use remote desktop instead?
[06:41] <cozby> strange why would ubuntu ship with an ol version of FireFox
[06:41] <cozby> how do i update packages
[06:41] <cozby> ?
[06:41] <_amin> Dr_Willis, root@amin:/home/amin# vlc
[06:41] <_amin> bash: vlc: command not found
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  i perfer to use k3b
[06:41] <jrattner1> knite, but the invitation is a file
[06:41] <_jason> lgc: I don't get anything for int (I get something but not what you want) so I don't know
[06:41] <knite> cozby: synaptic
[06:41] <dstryr> ok, what is libncurses5-dev?
[06:42] <dstryr> anyone
[06:42] <dstryr> ?
[06:42] <FlannelKing> unperson: usually if your software supports ISO burning, it'll ask if you want to burn the ISO, or just copy th ISO file to the disk.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  dont run it as root for one. :P
[06:42] <cozby> synaptic eh, just apt get it
[06:42] <_amin> Dr_Willis, do you think ive to restart my box ?
[06:42] <ratley> cozby, do you just want to update firefox, or everything?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  no.. just logout/in as a user.
[06:42] <knite> cozby: setup your sources file then
[06:42] <Extreme_Unction> Anyone wanna netplay some Contra 3 on Zsnes?
[06:42] <sixslap> hey i know that one                 sudo apt-get update
[06:42] <cozby> ratley, everything would be nice
[06:43] <sixslap> yay i'm lerning!!!!
[06:43] <FlannelKing> dstryr: it's the development stuff for ncurses (version 5)
[06:43] <cozby> but for now i just need FF updated
[06:43] <_amin> ok brb
[06:43] <Xenguy> dstryr: also needed for 'make menuconfig' IIRC
[06:44] <lgc> _jason. "int" is a C function, as far as I know. But it seems to be the only one missing. Many thanks. Are you available for another consultation?
[06:44] <unperson> FlannelKing, Right, this does not seem to ask any such thing.
[06:44] <ratley> cozby, are you running breezy?
[06:44] <_jason> lgc: sure, just ask the channel though and I'll answer if I know
[06:44] <dstryr> would installing this can cause why X wont start?
[06:44] <unperson> Dr_Willis, Know of any k3b equivalent for Gnome offhand?
[06:44] <unperson> What about X-CD-Roast?
[06:45] <cozby> ratley yup
[06:45] <Xenguy> dstryr: no
[06:45] <knite> dstryr: no, installing libncurses should not affect X
[06:45] <lgc> _jason, excuse my ignorance. How do I do that?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  nope.. ya could always learn how to use the 'cdrecord' command line tool
[06:45] <cozby> jeese synaptic doesn't even give firefox an update option
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> unperson,  its not that hard to use.
[06:45] <cozby> thats ridiculous
[06:45] <Extreme_Unction> cdrecord is good, actually!
[06:45] <Extreme_Unction> Very easy to use.
[06:45] <Madpilot> unperson, gnomebaker?
[06:45] <Extreme_Unction> In most cases it's just.. sudo cdrecord whatever.iso
[06:46] <ratley> cozby, well, run "sudo apt-get update" without the quotes in a terminal
[06:46] <ratley> and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:46] <_jason> lgc: you don't preface the question with my name :) (most people just ignore messages addressed to others)
[06:46] <dstryr> what's the latest gcc compiler?
[06:46] <cozby> ratley
[06:46] <Extreme_Unction> 4.0
[06:46] <cozby> already did that
[06:46] <ratley> both of those?
[06:46] <cozby> before i ran synaptic too
[06:46] <unperson> Extreme_Unction, Ah.  I thought people seemed to always have all sorts of other options involed and such.
[06:46] <ratley> but you're hoping for firefox 1.5 then?
[06:46] <_jason> lgc: manpages-posix-dev is another package you might want by the way
[06:46] <dstryr> how do i get the 4.0?
[06:46] <cozby> yeah
[06:46] <cozby> 1.5
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> I believe it installs 4.0
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> If not, sudo apt-get install gcc-4.0
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> unperson: There are many options.. Also a blank command.
[06:47] <dstryr> what's the diff between sudo apt-get and sudo aptitude install?
[06:47] <zF> startkeylogger
[06:47] <_jason> dstryr: install build-essential, it will pull in other stuff you need as well
[06:47] <zF> :o
[06:47] <cozby> hm, wait i just did update not upgrade
[06:47] <_jason> zF: not here please
[06:47] <Extreme_Unction> It's just most of the time you can burn it without any options successfully
[06:47] <zF> _jason, sorry... Was just testing :o
[06:48] <frank_> what program do i use to customize the appearance of ubuntu?
[06:48] <dstryr> and what is build essential?
[06:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell frank_ about themes
[06:48] <lgc> _jason, manpages-posix-dev doesn't seem to exist...
[06:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell lgc about multiverse
[06:48] <ratley> cozby, run that first to make sure everything is up to date
[06:49] <cozby> kk
[06:49] <frank_> can somebody tell me how to enable universe'
[06:49] <cozby> just did
[06:49] <_jason> dstryr: it is a meta-pacakge that installs gcc as well as other things you need to compile successfully.  apt-cache show build-essential, for details
[06:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell frank_ about universe
[06:49] <frank_> jason thanks
[06:49] <dstryr> ic
[06:49] <cozby> wow synaptic is kinda nice
[06:49] <cozby> it'd be better if it worked tho
[06:49] <dstryr> coz this dog wont even compile BitchX
[06:50] <cozby> kinda reminds me of QNX package repository
[06:50] <dstryr> kept getting some errors
[06:50] <cozby> in anycase ff 1.5 is no where to be upgrade dor found?!?
[06:50] <Xenguy> dstryr: yes, BX is a dog :p
[06:51] <_jason> cozby: ff1.5 isn't in synaptic because ubuntu makes a stable release every 6 months and provides security updates only
[06:51] <_amin> Dr_Willis, how to find vlc from terminal ?
[06:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell cozby about ff1.5
[06:51] <ratley> _jason, is it available in breezy backports?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  if you installed it. it should be in your default paths
[06:51] <ratley> i'm running dapper and a nightly build...so i honestly have no idea
[06:51] <_jason> ratley: nope, too many packages depend on firefox1.07 so it is too difficult to backport without breaking other things
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> ---> /usr/bin/vlc
[06:51] <ratley> so...easyubuntu or automatix then?
[06:52] <cozby> thanks _jason
[06:52] <Xenguy> _amin: which vlc
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ratley,  EWW!
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:52] <_amin> yes i installed it from synaptic. i do not know where synaptic would have installed it ?
[06:52] <ratley> Dr_Willis, haha, it would certainly be the "easiest" way
[06:52] <_jason> ratley: easyubuntu won't install firefox 1.5.  Automatix installs it using the wiki method and automatix itself is generally not recommended here
[06:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell ratley about ff1.5
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  in the normal paths like i just posted. :P
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> _amin,  or select the package in synaptic and look at the details.
[06:53] <javiolo> _amin maybe you didnt install the gui of vlc
[06:53] <javiolo> if you install it you will have on the menu
[06:54] <_amin> secondly, _jason you asked me to download those win32 codecs for Totem to run songs on my mounted xp partitions, ive downloaded and ran those codecs but still i have same error that Totem does not hav particular gstramer codecs
[06:54] <unperson> To use cdrecord, I need to know the scsi bus,  target, and lun of the cd drive.  What's the easiet way to determine those?
[06:54] <_jason> _amin: did you install totem-xine?
[06:54] <_amin> javiolo, how do i install that gui ?
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> cdrecord --scanbus
[06:54] <majd> would someone be kind enough to show me how to setup my ports for Azureus? i can't figure it out...i went to 192.168.1.1 and setup 6880 to 7000 for Azureus and enabled it, but when i test port 6890, i get NAT error...i've read the docs...didn't help
[06:55] <_amin> _jason, no i had totem movie player by defualt
[06:55] <_jason> _amin: install totem-xine, also what are you trying to play exactly?
[06:55] <ratley> cozby, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion does appear to be the "best" way to install a newer version of firefox
[06:55] <_amin> _jason, a normal mp3 format song
[06:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell _amin about mp3
[06:56] <majd> i also tried setting up the ports from 6881 to 6881 (using BOTH as the protocol) and got the NAT error again
[06:56] <Alashua> anyone know if kde comes with a screenshot and where i could find it?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> majd,  could be ya got some firewall stuff enabled under linux
[06:57] <Q_Continuum> majd: 6881 is often blocked by ISPs now.  Try another port?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> majd,  i got 6881-7000 forwared to my box.
[06:57] <Keyframe> how can I make fstab reread again without restarting?
[06:57] <_jason> Keyframe: sudo mount -a
[06:57] <_amin> _jason, ive marked totem-xine for installation. Now ..
[06:57] <Keyframe> thx
[06:57] <javiolo> _amin dont remember what package I installed
[06:58] <_jason> _amin: for mp3's I think you'll need to read your private messages
[06:58] <javiolo> but check the ones called vlc
[06:58] <_amin> _jason, om gone with that page many times
[06:58] <_jason> _amin: do your mp3's play now?
[06:58] <_amin> but i always end up confuding myself in reprositoes
[06:58] <Psykus> how do I run the graphical version of nethack? it seemed to install with the standard nethack, but I can't figure out a command to run it
[06:59] <Keyframe> damnit I have mount point like //Krono/Diskor (D)/
[06:59] <_amin> _jason,  now synaptic is installing those marked packages
[06:59] <Keyframe> how do I add that in fstab?
[06:59] <_jason> _amin: ok
[06:59] <Verithrax> How can I change my boot splash screen?
[06:59] <ratley> Psykus, try running nethack-gnome
[06:59] <dstryr> what could be the problem of this: Translation.m:155: invalid character: message ignored
[06:59] <_jason> dstryr: what caused that?
[06:59] <_amin> _jason, after installation how i will be able to see totem-xine as a gui application ?
[06:59] <Keyframe> I've tried like this: "//Kronos/Diskor (D)/" /home/keyframe/Diskor smbfs
[06:59] <Keyframe> but it won't work
[06:59] <majd> Dr_Willis,, Q_Continuum : http://72.29.74.19/Screenshot.png
[06:59] <_jason> _amin: just run totem as usual
[06:59] <Psykus> ah ok, grabbing it off of apt-get now
[07:00] <majd> oops...http://72.29.74.19/~majdkgf/Screenshot.png
[07:00] <jrsims> oh my god. everyone should use gnu screen!
[07:00] <slinkidy> Hello everyone
[07:00] <_jason> jrsims: :)
[07:00] <majd> what's gnu screen?
[07:00] <_amin> i also installed and unpacked those codecs yesterday, what would they do good ?
[07:00] <Q_Continuum> what's the IP of the machine you're running that on, majd?  .1 is usually the router in the case of Linksys machines.
[07:01] <_jason> _amin: I don't understand your question
[07:01] <jrsims> ok everyone. right now - sudo apt-get install screen
[07:01] <killua_16> hi
[07:01] <FlannelKing> jrsims: what about it?
[07:01] <majd> Q_Continuum, my ip is totally different
[07:02] <jrsims> FlannelKing: what about it? IT RULES DUDE! check the man page.
[07:02] <majd> 71...
[07:02] <Keyframe> anyone? I have space in mount point.. how should I write that in fstab?
[07:02] <_amin> w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb how do i use it ?
[07:02] <ratley> majd, yeah, you're forwarding to your router
[07:02] <majd> ratley, is that a bad thing?
[07:02] <FlannelKing> jrsims: I know, I'm on it right now!
[07:02] <Q_Continuum> majd: change the IP for the port forward then to 71.
[07:02] <majd> how do i change it?
[07:02] <jrsims> FlannelKing: good job. it's my first day on screen.
[07:02] <Q_Continuum> change the 1 next to 'enabled' to 71 or whatever your IP is.
[07:02] <majd> but i can't edit the 192.168.1. part
[07:02] <_jason> _amin: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:02] <FlannelKing> jrsims: grin, I've had four ;)
[07:02] <majd> would it pose a security thread if i pasted my ip?
[07:03] <majd> here
[07:03] <Q_Continuum> you have to be on the same network as it, so you'll have to set your machine to 192.168.1.x
[07:03] <Xenguy> jrsims: screen is indispensible :-)
[07:03] <_jason> majd: no since we can all figure it out
[07:03] <jrsims> FlannelKing: yeah, maybe I don't need to install an window manager now. :)
[07:03] <_amin> done. now whats the funtion of that file ?
[07:03] <majd> this is my ip: 71.65.19.97   so i should set it to 192.168.1.71.65.19.97 ? (that doesn't make sense
[07:03] <Q_Continuum> no
[07:03] <Psykus> what is screen?
[07:04] <FlannelKing> jrsims: laugh, I'd go with ... um, damn.  There's some nice screen like ones, been looking for window managers for my bloody old laptop.
[07:04] <Q_Continuum> your computer is plugged into the LAN port of that Linksys router, correct?
[07:04] <majd> sorry for being an idiot lol...i'm kinda slow with this stuff
[07:04] <dstryr> ey guys, look at this: (WW) The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
[07:04] <_jason> _amin: it provides support for wmv, rm, mov, divx, and a bunch of other stuff probably
[07:04] <dstryr> how can i get that font?
[07:04] <FlannelKing> Psykus: it allows you to run multiple terminals through ssh (or whatever)
[07:04] <majd> Q_Continuum, correct
[07:04] <_amin> _jason, synaptic has just installed totem-xine but i cant see it in applications
[07:04] <cafuego> dstryr: install the cyrillic fonts
[07:04] <_jason> _amin: it should be sound and video > totem
[07:04] <Q_Continuum> majd: Ok.  pull up a console, and type in ifconfig
[07:04] <dstryr> how?
[07:04] <cafuego> dstryr: Of cours, that's just a non-fatalw arning, which you can happily ignore.
[07:04] <_amin> supports to any particular software ? which software >
[07:04] <FlannelKing> so, I can have centericq running, with irssi, with vim, all at the same time, at the same putty terminal
[07:04] <Psykus> ah, neat
[07:04] <majd> Q_Continuum,  ok...
[07:05] <Q_Continuum> majd: the IP you listed above is your public-facing IP.  You are behind a router, so you've got your own, different IP.
[07:05] <Keyframe> how can I have spaces in fstab mount point? :/
[07:05] <Q_Continuum> majd: whatever the last octet (x.x.x.XXX) is what we want.
[07:05] <cafuego> Keyframe: file\ with \ spaces
[07:05] <majd> i see
[07:05] <FlannelKing> majd: you've got a subnet IP, probably starts around 100
[07:05] <majd> can i paste this info here?
[07:05] <cafuego> Keyframe: escape 'em with backslashes
[07:05] <Q_Continuum> sure.  we can't get past the router anyway.
[07:05] <FlannelKing> majd: it's how the router tells everyone apart
[07:05] <Q_Continuum> doesn't matter though.
[07:05] <_amin> _jason, NO totem-xine not there. There is only the old one 'Totem Movie PLayer'
[07:05] <majd> inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[07:05] <Keyframe> ok, lemme try it - thanks
[07:05] <FlannelKing> you're 102 then
[07:05] <majd> so i need to put in 102 for the value?
[07:05] <majd> ok
[07:05] <Xenguy> Psykus: and if the connection crashes, you just re-connect and start where you left off
[07:05] <_jason> _amin: that's the one, it replaces your old one
[07:06] <_amin> do want me to logou/in ?
[07:06] <Q_Continuum> majd: so put 102 in the box where it currently has the 1
[07:06] <Q_Continuum> then tell it to save
[07:06] <majd> Testing port 7000 ... OK !
[07:06] <majd> WOOO
[07:06] <majd> thanks a lot guys
[07:06] <frank_> is there anyway to change the contrast and brightness in ubuntu?
[07:06] <Q_Continuum> that's telling the router "when I get data incoming on the ports between 6881 and 7000, forward to THIS machine on the other side, the protected, LAN side."
[07:06] <dstryr> (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
[07:06] <cafuego> frank_: Use the controls on your monitor
[07:06] <dstryr> any ideas?
[07:06] <Xenguy> Psykus: or you 'detach', go to another PC, and re-connect the same session (etc :-)
[07:06] <cafuego> dstryr: (WW) can be ignored.
[07:06] <frank_> im on a laptop
[07:07] <frank_> theres only brightness
[07:07] <majd> Q_Continuum, oh i see....thanks for the information and the help..
[07:07] <cafuego> dstryr: There is not a problem if lines start with (EE)
[07:07] <FlannelKing> Psykus: you can even do split screen stuff, and tons of other things
[07:07] <Q_Continuum> majd: not a problem, glad to help.
[07:07] <Keyframe> cafuego: hmmm.. how exactly? if mount point is //Krono/Diskor (D)/ .. should I write //Krono/Diskor\\(D) ?
[07:07] <frank_> i was just wondering to see if it was like windows where you can go to properties and mess around with the settings there
[07:07] <majd> ok...now it says firewalled lol
[07:07] <dstryr> but that's WW though
[07:07] <cafuego> dstryr: ONLY  aproblem if lines start with (EE)
[07:07] <dstryr> how to install that font really
[07:07] <cozby> appreciate the help FF is updated
[07:07] <slinkidy> Hey everyone, I'm installing ubuntu on my old desktop lol, This is my first time ever using it, wish me luck :p
[07:07] <cafuego> Keyframe: You might need to escape those brackets too
[07:08] <cafuego> /krono/Diskor\ \(D\)/
[07:08] <_amin> _jason, Totem could not play 'file:///media/hda5/Music/English/Micheal buble/Micheal Buble - come fly with me.mp3'.  Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[07:08] <cafuego> Or give the share a useful name in Windows, then try again.
[07:08] <Q_Continuum> firewalled on what, majd?
[07:08] <_jason> _amin: 'sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad' in a terminal
[07:08] <Q_Continuum> DHT?  that's common, usually it's just because you're not actually talking to anyone.
[07:08] <Q_Continuum> as long as NAT is green, you're good.
[07:08] <Psykus> come flyyyy with me...
[07:08] <Vylar1978> xen is there any way to mount the flopy and make it permininate
[07:09] <cafuego> _amin: Yes, Michael Buble would make your CPU crash.
[07:09] <dli> is alsa installed by default ubuntu-desktop?
[07:09] <red> hey all
[07:09] <dreamy> hi all
[07:09] <dreamy> help me
[07:09] <_jason> !helpme
[07:09] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:09] <majd> Q_Continuum, NAT used to be red, after i fixed it, just says Firewalled
[07:09] <dreamy> =)
[07:09] <red> what's a shell command for the last time a file was modified? or created?
[07:10] <Q_Continuum> what port are you using right now (for Azureus?)
[07:10] <red> anyone ...
[07:10] <_jason> red: stat maybe
[07:10] <dreamy> how to register in windows nt domain???????????
[07:10] <lgc> _jason laugh at me: I thought this "ubotu" was a real guy inviting me over to a private chat! (After many mechanical answers on "his" part I asked if he did little girls, and "he" responded "Syntax error").
[07:10] <curley_sue> #fluxbox
[07:10] <cafuego> red: 'man ls' See the time format and list options.
[07:10] <_jason> lgc: ha
[07:10] <majd> Q_Continuum, 7000
[07:10] <Q_Continuum> majd: I'd change the port to something in the 49,000 range, something random works, change it in Azureus then also in the Linksys router.  Most of those don't get blocked up there.
[07:10] <Psykus> red, ls -l (file) I think
[07:10] <lgc> _jason, life sucks!
[07:10] <dreamy> is ubuntu work with windows domains?
[07:11] <red> _jason: yeah ... it's  a start ... but I wonder if there is a command that spits out a response "5 minutes"
[07:11] <Psykus> will show last modified I think
[07:11] <nicholaspaul> dreamy: huh??
[07:11] <_jason> red: man stat
[07:11] <SardoPsycho> hey gang...gotta question about video codecs - anyone know where I can get and how to install the XVID codec to work with either Totem or RealPlayer10?
[07:12] <dreamy> im work at factory with 200 komputers
[07:12] <_amin> _jason, done kthx
[07:12] <Keyframe> cafuego: I appriciate it.. but it doesn't work.. since actuall mount point is //Krono/Diskor (D)/ .. I tried with //Krono/Diskor\ \(D\)/ .. but all I get is mount point \(D\)/ does not exist
[07:12] <dreamy> we want to cange windows on linux
[07:12] <jiangguowei> jiangguowei@ubuntu-jiang:~$ gpg --clearsign ~/ubuntu-coc.txt.
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: directory `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg' created
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: new configuration file `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
[07:12] <red> Yeah, it shows last modified ... but I don't want to have to process this. Would prefer to go COMMAND "file" ... if output > 10 minutes then do something ...
[07:12] <majd> Q_Continuum,  http://72.29.74.19/~majdkgf/Screenshot.png
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: keyring `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
[07:12] <_jason> _amin: do your mp3's play now?
[07:12] <Q_Continuum> majd: I'm running off for food, I'll be back at some point.  I know there's some more info on the Azureus homepage/wiki on how to resolve that issue, if you continue to get stuck.
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: keyring `/home/jiangguowei/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
[07:12] <jiangguowei> gpg: /home/jiangguowei/ubuntu-coc.txt.: clearsign failed: secret key not availab le
[07:12] <_jason> jiangguowei: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:12] <majd> ok
[07:12] <jiangguowei> How should I do?
[07:12] <majd> thank you
[07:12] <Psykus> haha, looks like a weird kind of emoticon
[07:13] <Psykus> \(D\)/
[07:13] <_amin> _jason, yes they do. I also installed VLC from synaptic, where to run VLC from now ?
[07:13] <lgc> _jason, anyway, I don't know how you pulled that fine trick on me. But back to the subject, if Ideb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse" it will do? do something like "
[07:13] <jiangguowei> _jason:sorry
[07:13] <Psykus> some sort of creature raising its hands up
[07:13] <_jason> jiangguowei: http://www.dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto.html
[07:13] <_jason> _amin: it should be in sound and video > vlc, if not do 'killall gnome-panel'
[07:14] <nicholaspaul> I cant get audio working on ppc laptop but have no idea where to start problem solving..what should i check first?
[07:14] <dstryr> .
[07:14] <_jason> lgc: yes, as long as you are indeed using hoary
[07:14] <Vylar1978> Can you mount the cd rom
[07:15] <Vylar1978> like you do the floppy drive
[07:15] <dstryr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9664, what's the problem with this? im trying to start x, i installed every drivers, etc
[07:15] <lgc> _jason, indeed (I'll wait till April for the next Ubuntu. By the way, can I skip Breezy all along, or do I have to update to it in order to update to the next one?)
[07:15] <ge_ge> hello
[07:16] <Vylar1978> Hi
[07:16] <_jason> lgc: I've heard mixed results with warty --> breezy.  I've mostly seen people say it is safe though.  Personally, I would update in steps
[07:16] <slinkidy> hi
[07:16] <ge_ge> can i join?
[07:16] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: sure: mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom
[07:16] <_jason> ge_ge: you're in
[07:16] <saim> can i join
[07:16] <dstryr> _jason
[07:16] <dstryr> any idea?
[07:17] <_jason> !ask
[07:17] <ge_ge> ohh thnx
[07:17] <dstryr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9664, what's the problem with this? im trying to start x, i installed every drivers, etc
[07:17] <_amin> _jason, i am re-installing vnc from synaptic
[07:17] <Xenguy> Vylar1978: (assuming /cdrom exists)
[07:17] <lgc> _jason, and how safe are my files during the update?
[07:17] <saim> what is this all about??
[07:17] <TheCrowX> Thanx for all everyone :)
[07:17] <_jason> _amin: ok, you shouldn't have to
[07:17] <jambon> um
[07:17] <_jason> saim: /topic
[07:17] <Xenguy> saim: /topic
[07:17] <jambon> i just killed xserver by trying to instlal xgl
[07:17] <jambon> and i don'tknow how to get out of it
[07:17] <_amin> _jason,  sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad
[07:17] <jambon> anyone help?
[07:17] <_amin>   <==-- what did this command do ?
[07:17] <jambon> text browser?
[07:18] <_jason> _amin: it installs gstreamer0.8-mad just like if you had done it with synaptic
[07:18] <ge_ge> naay tga san juan dri?
[07:18] <student> sai. answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board.
[07:18] <dstryr> what you think _jason?
[07:18] <_jason> lgc: I can't really say I know much about that
[07:18] <nicholaspaul> When i open a wav in Totem, i cant hear it. Which alsa files do i need?
[07:18] <jiangguowei> _jason:I have read it carefully,but it doesn't tell me how  I deal with this error
[07:19] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:19] <_amin> _jason, from which directory it fetched the gstreamer0-8-mad ?
[07:19] <FlannelKing> jambon: what about text browser?
[07:19] <_jason> dstryr: I don't know, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe let you get back to X and start over though
[07:19] <_jason> dstryr: s/maybe/may
[07:19] <_jason> _amin: online
[07:19] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:19] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:19] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <student>  Sai answer mo daw and exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <dstryr> i did
[07:20] <_jason> jiangguowei: seems like you haven't created/selected your private key
[07:20] <dstryr> kept getting the same error
[07:20] <student>  Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <_jason> student: please don't repeat
[07:20] <dstryr> should i remove my vidcard and use my integrated one?
[07:20] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:20] <ge_ge> whats wrong with u student
[07:20] <FlannelKing> student: if you're going to repeat, at least make it coherent, or intersting.
[07:21] <Madpilot> student, English please
[07:21] <dstryr> word
[07:21] <dstryr> and yeah _jason, would that help?
[07:21] <_jason> dstryr: I don't really know what's going on there to be honest with you
[07:21] <jiangguowei> _jason : launchpad.net/faq only told me to sing the ubuntu code of conduct.How can I  creat/select my private key.
[07:21] <Keyframe> this is so retarded.. fstab can't accept spaces in mount points, and windows does not allow me to change share name of the drive
[07:21] <_amin> _jason, i am running mp3 by right click 'open with another application' and then selecting realplayer, how to get realplayer in GNU Apllications tab ?
[07:22] <_jason> jiangguowei: read the tutorial I linked you to, it explains it very nicely
[07:22] <jiangguowei> _jason: ok.I will read it.Many thanks!
[07:22] <_jason> _amin: what is 'GNU applications tab'?
[07:23] <fompon> is installing parts of kde to run kde based applications going to slow down my system?
[07:23] <_jason> fompon: depends on your system, mine runs fine with 512mb and 1600mhz for your reference
[07:23] <FlannelKing> fompon: installing them? no.  it'll just take up HD space
[07:23] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:23] <Xenguy> fompon: I've never noticed a problem
[07:23] <fompon> cool
[07:23] <_amin> _jason, the one from which i opened totem movie player from SOUND AND VIDEO (top left )
[07:23] <fompon> thanks guys
[07:23] <jrsims> hey, I can't seem to find mysql on apt. what name is it under?
[07:24] <FlannelKing> student: awas ylasu myusp wbeusk isc ciw wum
[07:24] <_jason> _amin: go to system tools > application menu editor and add a new shortcut for it
[07:24] <Xenguy> jrsims: apt-cache search mysql
[07:24] <jrsims> Xenguy: k
[07:24] <_amin> _jason, i donot know in which directory realplayer is installed in /home ive only it .deb file
[07:25] <_jason> _amin: how do you run realplayer?
[07:25] <ge_ge> toink wla ,may agany diri
[07:25] <_amin> right click on the mp3 and then 'open with '
[07:25] <dstryr> FIXED.
[07:25] <_jason> _amin: try 'which realplayer' in a terminal
[07:25] <dstryr> X IR F'in running
[07:25] <dstryr> :D
[07:25] <dstryr> :D
[07:25] <_jason> dstryr: what did you end up doing?
[07:26] <dstryr> i had to mess with the PCI stuff
[07:26] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:26] <dstryr> lke the PCI:0:1:0
[07:26] <basti> !mp3
[07:26] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:26] <dstryr> you kno what im talkin bout
[07:26] <_amin> _jason, nothing appeared after that command
[07:27] <dstryr> it was set to PCI:0:0:1
[07:27] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:27] <_jason> _amin: type real and press <tab>, anything happen?
[07:27] <dstryr> but my device is PCI:1:3:0
[07:27] <dstryr> :D
[07:27] <_jason> anyone know the command for realplayer?
[07:27] <ech0> does ubuntu have good sata support?
[07:27] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:27] <jambon> FlannelKing: the site doesn't support text browsing
[07:27] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:27] <student> Sai answer mo daw ang exercise na nasa board
[07:27] <_jason> student: no one understand what you are saying
[07:27] <dstryr> student?
[07:28] <dstryr> i do understand what he was saying
[07:28] <FlannelKing> jambon: uh, which site?
[07:28] <_jason> oh ok, I was wrong then
[07:28] <_amin> _jason, realplay            realvncpasswd       realvncserver
[07:28] <_amin> realvncconnect      realvncpasswd.real
[07:29] <_jason> _amin: ok, type 'realplay' and make sure that open up realplayer.  If it does, type 'which realplay' and use that as the command in your menu shortcut
[07:29] <jambon> FlannelKing: ubuntu wiki
[07:29] <nicholaspaul> anyone got ALSA drivers for Powerbook?
[07:29] <nicholaspaul> - or know where i can get em?
[07:30] <dstryr> it feels good when you've solved your own problem man
[07:30] <dstryr> :D
[07:30] <jiangguowei> _jason:i have solved my problem under your help.Thanks!  :)
[07:30] <_jason> jiangguowei: cool
[07:30] <ge_ge> i dont like this
[07:30] <ge_ge> shittttttttt
[07:30] <FlannelKing> jambon does it really?  Eh, I don't seem to have much of a problem.  What page specifically?
[07:30] <derek_57hgf> hello
[07:30] <nicholaspaul> hi derek_57hgf
[07:31] <derek_57hgf> hows it goin
[07:31] <FlannelKing> ge_ge: watch your language; "this doesn't work" usually isn't a good method of getting help
[07:31] <ge_ge> well actually im not after on ur help
[07:31] <Madpilot> ech0, my only HD is SATA, I've never had any trouble with it & Ubuntu
[07:31] <slinkidy> Hey guys, I have a question. I'm tryin to install ubuntu onto my old desktop but while installing the base system, it says that the kernal-linux 366 (i think, i restarted) any suggestions on what to do to solve this?
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> This is the official support channel, ge_ge
[07:32] <derek_57hgf> does anyonw know how to get sound working on quake 3?I am running breezy 32 bit.
[07:32] <dli> how to get dialup from the installation cd?
[07:32] <nicholaspaul> slinkidy: what do you need solving?
[07:32] <dstryr> ok
[07:33] <slinkidy> it says it has failed to install, sorry i wasn't paying attention lol
[07:33] <dstryr> what's this: it says: Internal error - failed to initialize HAL!
[07:33] <dstryr> ?
[07:33] <nicholaspaul> slinkidy: hard to say. It could be a conflict with hardware (one possibility i've heard of). noting the errors would really help :)
[07:33] <slinkidy> is it a corrupt cd or should i just restart and try again?
[07:33] <ge_ge> i cant even chat on my friends\
[07:33] <derek_57hgf> has anyone gotten quaje 3 to work on ubuntu?
[07:33] <slinkidy> one sec, i'll see if it comes up again
[07:34] <ge_ge> this network is so disgusting
[07:34] <derek_57hgf> quake*
[07:34] <Syns> what is .asx?
[07:34] <Syns> realplayer wont work with it
[07:34] <FlannelKing> Syns: microsoft audio stream something or other
[07:34] <_jason> Syns: usually windows media
[07:34] <nicholaspaul> slinkidy:  I've had probs like that with corrupt discs, yea.
[07:34] <Madpilot> ge_ge, if you register you can chat on Freenode
[07:34] <Madpilot> !tell ge_ge about register
[07:35] <Syns> is there nothing i can use to play it?
[07:35] <dstryr> perfect. now i have to fix the gcc stuff
[07:35] <Syns> no workaround?
[07:35] <dstryr> it wont compile anything
[07:35] <jetscreamer> derek_57hgf: if nvidia you'll probably need the nvidia-binary
[07:35] <ge_ge> ok
[07:35] <derek_57hgf> oh
[07:35] <FlannelKing> Syns: read the asx file in a text editor, see what the actual stream is
[07:35] <derek_57hgf> thanks jetscreamer
[07:35] <slinkidy> an error was returned while trying to instal the kernel into the target system.    kernel package:  Linux-386    Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details
[07:35] <themuffenmann> dstryr, are you in need of a c++ compiler?
[07:35] <dstryr> feels like im using MacOSX
[07:36] <SardoPsycho> hey gang...gotta question about video codecs - anyone know where I can get and how to install the XVID codec to work with either Totem or RealPlayer10?
[07:36] <Vylar1978>  Ok Good night for now
[07:36] <derek_57hgf> jetscreamer: you the same person that hangs out in #debian?
[07:36] <Vylar1978> Thanks for the Lessons on Linux yall see you tomorrow
[07:36] <jetscreamer> yes
[07:36] <dstryr> took me like 3 days to start X
[07:36] <dstryr> dang
[07:36] <jetscreamer> derek_57hgf: are you the bot guy?
[07:37] <derek_57hgf> no
[07:37] <carlk> anyone know how many different users have logged into this channel in the last year?
[07:37] <_jason> SardoPsycho: I think installing totem-xine (enable universe and use synaptic) and w32codecs (see bot link) will work
[07:37] <derek_57hgf> i am derek the great
[07:37] <jetscreamer> ah
[07:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell SardoPsycho about universe
[07:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell SardoPsycho about w32codecs
[07:37] <Syns> says the player doesnt have the compatibilities to play it, but doesnt say what those compatibilities are
[07:37] <derek_57hgf> mplayer will prolly play it
[07:38] <derek_57hgf> if you ge tthe codecs for it
[07:38] <FlannelKing> Syns what's the filetype of the actual stream?
[07:38] <carlk> xchat just got pulled from the default install - I think that is a bad thing, but not sure how to measure the use of it
[07:38] <_amin> _jason,  whats the difference between gnome and gtk+ ?
[07:38] <Syns> u know what, mplayer has always been a bitch for me
[07:38] <_jason> Syns: install w32codecs and use mplayer
[07:38] <Syns> .asx
[07:38] <_jason> Syns: totem-xine might work too with w32codecs
[07:38] <Syns> its a stream
[07:38] <Syns> ill take my chances with mplayer..
[07:38] <Syns> totem NEVER works
[07:38] <Madpilot> carlk, Freenode might keep stats like that - maybe ask on #freenode?
[07:38] <Syns> not even with cds
[07:39] <derek_57hgf> cya
[07:39] <_jason> _amin: gnome is the desktop environment and gtk is the gimp toolkit (how your windows are constructed basically)
[07:39] <FlannelKing> carlk: so, there's no IRC client installed in base ubuntu anymore?
[07:39] <pinpoint> if one removes a lib file and errors emerge  whats the best way to fix?
[07:39] <_0331_USMC> Can someone help direct me to a site where I can learn to network my computers together?  I want to have a server for files/web testing that I can use with my windows and linux box's
[07:39] <carlk> FlannelKing: basically - there is gaim
[07:39] <_jason> pinpoint: unremove the lib file?
[07:40] <pinpoint> unremove?
[07:40] <_jason> pinpoint: reinstall
[07:40] <Syns> w32codes is not availible but is referred to by another package?
[07:40] <FlannelKing> carlk: psh, that's a bad choice, if you ask me.  Of course, who am I? heh.
[07:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell Syns about w32codecs
[07:40] <Madpilot> Syns, you need to install w32codecs seperatly
[07:40] <me2win> !w32codecs
[07:40] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:40] <pinpoint> as in reinstall ubuntu?
[07:40] <_jason> pinpoint: no, reinstall the lib
[07:40] <carlk> FlannelKing: I agree.  but you me and 5 or 10 others isn't quite enough
[07:41] <jambon> FlannelKing: sorry, i'm hopping between #xgl and here.
[07:41] <p4t> i have a problem in connecting websites
[07:41] <jambon> i got to the page
[07:41] <jambon> just more problems pop upo
[07:41] <p4t> and i dont know how to fix it
[07:41] <themuffenmann> p4t..explain you issue
[07:41] <p4t> i just installed the tor last day
[07:41] <p4t> a day before yesterday
[07:42] <p4t> then it worked
[07:42] <SardoPsycho>  ok..I have downloaded and installed the codecs, but the xvid files are still not playing in totem or RealPlayer
[07:42] <p4t> but yesterday
[07:42] <Madpilot> !enter
[07:42] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:42] <p4t> it started its error so i decided to uninstalled the tor privoxy this morning
[07:42] <FlannelKing> carlk: found your answer.
[07:42] <FlannelKing> !ubotu seen
[07:42] <FlannelKing> aww, well, do it.
[07:42] <p4t> but i cant still connect to websites
[07:42] <FlannelKing> He tells you how many entries he has in seen
[07:43] <pinpoint> _jason, sudo apt-get update?
[07:43] <FlannelKing> carlk: so, you can check out ubotus database.  And then add a bunch for all the people who log on as "ubuntu"
[07:43] <carlk> cool - thanks
[07:43] <FlannelKing> 18383
[07:43] <Madpilot> FlannelKing, "18383 seen entries that I know of" - wow - we'll have to ask cafuego how far back the bot keeps logs
[07:43] <themuffenmann> any experienced C++ programmers with any good ideas for a program? im kinda bored at the moment
[07:43] <carlk> #freenode was read-only :)
[07:44] <_jason> pinpoint: maybe you should provide more details about your problem
[07:44] <SardoPsycho> Anyone?  I went to the link you provided about the w32 codecs, downloaded it, went into the terminal, and installed it as per the instructions - there were no errors - but my xvid files are still not playing in totem or RealPlayer.....
[07:44] <pinpoint> SardoPsycho, try xine?
[07:44] <FlannelKing> carlk: so, yeah, get ahold of cafuego, he can probably dump a log or db on you, or whatnot.  at least some stats.
[07:44] <pinpoint> mine work good
[07:44] <carlk> !ubotu seen
[07:44] <SardoPsycho> pinpoint - xine???
[07:44] <pinpoint> yeah
[07:44] <_jason> SardoPsycho: did you install totem-xine as well?
[07:45] <SardoPsycho> didn't receive instructions for that
[07:45] <SardoPsycho> how do I nab that packagge?
[07:45] <_jason> SardoPsycho: enable universe and install totem-xine
[07:45] <SardoPsycho> ok..next dumb question...how do I enable universe?
[07:45] <FlannelKing> carlk: but, considering theres 18K+ people here, and 76K people on the forums, I'd say this is a pretty signifigant source of dialog
[07:45] <_jason> SardoPsycho: check your private messages
[07:45] <carlk> agreed
[07:45] <FlannelKing> well, carlk, you'll want to check out kubuntu and all those other channels too
[07:45] <mylo> xvid ? i'd suggest use vlc instead of totem
[07:45] <carlk> ohh, good one
[07:46] <FlannelKing> of course, there's probably a lot of overlap, but, for the sake of keeping xchat in default ubuntu, a little number inflation never hurt anyone ;)
[07:46] <Madpilot> FlannelKing & carlk, the bot's seen works across all the channels it's in - so here, #kubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, etc etc
[07:47] <carlk> I just noticed that
[07:48] <SardoPsycho> installing now....let's see what blows up lol
[07:48] <glock_> can anyone help me install videocard drivers im having a hard time... msg me
[07:48] <glock_> trying to update these nvidia drivers
[07:48] <L> Good Moring People
[07:48] <L> me to
[07:48] <frank_> o.k im new to ubuntu installed it everything works of the bat except my built in media reader on my laptop how can i fix this
[07:49] <Madpilot> glock_, have you seen the wiki's nvidia howto?
[07:49] <FlannelKing> carlk: Ive had tons more luck here than the forums.  Heh, you can reference my unanswered/unsolved threads ;) "flannel" username
[07:49] <_amin> _jason, ive installed GNOME Radio from Add Applications. Now when i ioen it i receive an error: Could not open device "/dev/radio" !
[07:49] <_amin> Check your Settings and make sure that no other
[07:49] <_amin> program is using /dev/radio.
[07:49] <_amin> Make also sure that you have read-access to it.
[07:49] <FlannelKing> carlk: alright, two of them.  But still.
[07:49] <L> if u Look at http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[07:50] <_jason> _amin: I have no idea about gnome radio
[07:50] <jiangguowei> _jason:After I paste ubuntu-coc.txt.asc file in launchpad.net.it told me that an error occured:No public key.
[07:50] <SardoPsycho> OK......one snag _jason.....I installed totem-xine, the w32codecs, no errors, however, I now get video, but absolutely no sound
[07:50] <_amin> _jason, what seems to be the error ?
[07:50] <_amin> how do i know if other application is using /dev/radio ?
[07:50] <jambon> ya, so if ANYONE knows a lot about xgl andis willing to help me out of text mode, hop over to #xgl. please
[07:50] <_jason> _amin: /dev/radio probably does not exist
[07:51] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, you need to upload your public key, make sure Launchpad knows about it - there should be instructions on the launchpad site
[07:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell SardoPsycho about multimedia
[07:51] <_jason> SardoPsycho: if after installing those things it still doesn't work then use vlc or mplayer
[07:51] <SardoPsycho> kk...trying those now
[07:51] <_amin> _jason, ive a Bluetooth builtin in my laptop how can i use/transffer files from other BlueTooth enabled devices ?
[07:52] <_jason> _amin: I don't know, you are better off addressing the channel
[07:53] <_amin> Can anyone help me ? Ive a Bluetooth builtin in my laptop how can i use/transffer files from other BlueTooth enabled devices ?
[07:53] <carlk> FlannelKing: I dont think the xchat thing needs to be comparid to other things, other than "how much overall gain" does it provide
[07:54] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:I see.I will try to upload my OpenPGP key first
[07:54] <Madpilot> !tell jiangguowei about gpg
[07:54] <lgc> _jason, nalioth_zZz (or rather ZZZZZZ), thanks. Ill call it a night just now. Till later. Adios, amigos!
[07:54] <FlannelKing> carlk: grin, I know.  Im just tired, tend to ramble.  But, it's definately a huge help, things get resolved here so much quicker than in the forums.
[07:55] <sambagirl> does ubuntu run on the Pegasos?
[07:55] <sambagirl> does ubuntu run on the Pegasos ] [ ?
[07:55] <bitox> will ubuntu 6.04 when released have kde 3.5 and the latest gnome 1.4?
[07:55] <bitox> and will it support Xgl?
[07:55] <carlk> sambagirl: is that an old Mac?
[07:55] <sambagirl> no
[07:56] <sambagirl> that is a cross between amiga and mac i suppose mostly.  Guru Meditation Error
[07:56] <fabbione> startkeylogger
[07:56] <fabbione> stopkeylogger
[07:56] <fabbione> ops--
[07:56] <fabbione> -ECHAN
[07:56] <fabbione> sorry
[07:56] <bitox> ?
[07:56] <sambagirl> it uses the ibm chip
[07:56] <Redth> i'm having problems seemingly getting opengl and glut installed on breezy.. i need the devel packages...  it's not finding GL/gl.h even when i compile with -lGL
[07:56] <L> Good moring
[07:57] <Korimyr> Might someone help me? I'm attempting to use the Ubuntu Live Boot to test to see whether or not I want to install it permanently-- but the boot process locks up when it attempts to load the desktop. I end up with a blank screen and wholly unresponsive controls.
[07:57] <fabbione> Madpilot: dude.. easy.. eh?
[07:57] <Madpilot> fabbione, that's not a stunt likely to work much on this channel, but it shouldn't be encourage...
[07:58] <fabbione> Madpilot: dude.. 2 things.. one if i say ECHAN i mean it
[07:58] <fabbione> Madpilot: kicking developers for a mistake is not nice.. or should we start kicking users because they do PEBCAK ?
[07:59] <sambagirl> http://www.pegasosppc.com/
[07:59] <Madpilot> fabbione, I saw the log stuff before I noticed the nick, TBH.
[07:59] <kuja> Kicking people cause they're stupid is not nice. Kicking people cause they're ignorant is acceptable.
[07:59] <fabbione> Madpilot: well pay attention next time.
[08:00] <carlk> fabbione: what is ECHAN?
[08:00] <dli> how to get dialup from the installation cd?
[08:00] <sambagirl> carlk http://www.pegasosppc.com/
[08:00] <fabbione> carlk: when you type something in the wrong window or channel
[08:00] <carlk> sambagirl: thanks
[08:01] <carlk> fabbione: also thanks
[08:01] <fabbione> carlk: no problem :)
[08:01] <xstation> hey
[08:01] <carlk> Korimyr: there are some ways to dumb down the Live Cd...  know what I am talking about?
[08:01] <curley_sue> hi, does anybody knows how to find the "name" of fn+F5 and how to assign it to suspend function in fluxbox?
[08:02] <sambagirl> does ubuntu run on say a Iris sgi computer?
[08:02] <Korimyr> carlk: Only vaguely. You mean disable certain troublesome features?
[08:02] <viviersf> sambagirl, erm what cpu arch would that use ?
[08:03] <xstation> running a install script and nedd openssl but its installed and the script I am running cannot find it as gives this message --Please get OpenSSL 0.9.6l or greater from http://www.openssl.org/
[08:03] <carlk> Korimyr: correct - you type some things at the boot: prompt
[08:03] <carlk> Korimyr: it has been a few months, I think there is a boot: prompt at the very begginging
[08:04] <carlk> Korimyr: it shold say something like "hit F2 for options"
[08:04] <Korimyr> carlk: Yes, there is. But I don't know what it is I should disable. Would switching back to my factory video card help?
[08:05] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:After I upload my OpenPGP key , it told me that Launchpad could not import your OpenPGP key.
[08:05] <jiangguowei> HTTP Error 500: OK at http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x03697E5F&op=get
[08:05] <carlk> Korimyr: maybe, but before you start messing with hardware, try some of the options
[08:06] <sambagirl> http://tinyurl.com/l9zkc
[08:06] <carlk> Korimyr: typical problems are: power save modes, weird USB
[08:06] <sambagirl> that is the url for the sgi
[08:06] <sambagirl> http://tinyurl.com/l9zkc
[08:06] <curley_sue> hi, does anybody knows how to find the "name" of fn+F5 and how to assign it to suspend function in fluxbox?
[08:06] <carlk> Korimyr: course you did describe a video problem, so that boots the likelyness of a vid card problem
[08:07] <jiangguowei> root@ubuntu-jiang:/home/jiangguowei# gpg --send-keys
[08:07] <jiangguowei> root@ubuntu-jiang:/home/jiangguowei# gpg --send-keys
[08:07] <jiangguowei> .No any return.Is something wrong with sending keys?
[08:07] <carlk> sambagirl: there is Ubuntu for PowerPC, so the Pegasus should fly
[08:08] <Korimyr> carlk: Weird USB might be the problem. It finds FireWire when looking for Ethernet... and I don't actually have one.
[08:09] <Korimyr> carlk: Very likely my next question, once I get it working at all.
[08:09] <carlk> sambagirl: "UNIT DOES NOT POWER ON." will probably be a problem :)
[08:10] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, have a read through "man gpg" - it's been a while since I uploaded my key, I can't remember the procedure
[08:10] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, I suspect you need more arguements with that gpg --send-keys command
[08:10] <pablux> hola
[08:11] <pablux> desde madrid
[08:11] <ech0> can ubuntu read/write to ntfs?
[08:11] <carlk> ech0: "no"
[08:11] <holy_cow> ech0, only windows can
[08:11] <carlk> holy_cow: not ture
[08:11] <holy_cow> very true
[08:11] <Madpilot> ech0, read, but not write (safely)
[08:11] <ech0> yet another debate comes
[08:12] <holy_cow> ech0, only if one decides that 'pedancy' is debatable
[08:12] <ech0> can it wite new files safely?
[08:12] <carlk> ech0: there are 2 ways to write to NTFS - the totaly open source code that can cause problems, and the wrapper around the MS suppied drivers
[08:12] <holy_cow> there is no wrapper for ms dlls, that project is dead
[08:13] <holy_cow> as well as the project it depended on
[08:13] <skreel> what channel is in spanish?
[08:13] <carlk> however, windows can read/write ext2/3, which often takes care of the need
[08:13] <xophEr> you can with an external driver..Paragon NTFS I think it was called, to bad it isnt free.
[08:13] <FlannelKing> !es
[08:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:14] <ech0> so ubuntu wouldnt be able to write to my other ntfs part correct? [yes/no] 
[08:14] <FlannelKing> um, yes?
[08:14] <holy_cow> ech0, nothing can. its that simple
[08:14] <mivecz> how to install  xfce4
[08:14] <mivecz> ?
[08:14] <sambagirl> hah i did not read that :D
[08:14] <carlk> ech0: not out of the box
[08:14] <ech0> thank you! i straight answer on the subject
[08:14] <holy_cow> well except for the paragon proprietary driver, you can buy that
[08:14] <sambagirl> thanks
[08:14] <xophEr> ech0, but you can..
[08:14] <sambagirl> thanks carlk
[08:15] <mivecz> how to install  xfce4
[08:15] <carlk> sambagirl: glad I can help
[08:16] <dstryr> what's the diff between i686 nad i486?
[08:16] <Healot> !tell mivecz about apt-get
[08:16] <sambagirl> http://tinyurl.com/o4xrp carlk what abvout this one you think ubuntu work for this?
[08:16] <carlk> ech0: here is what I use: www.fs-driver.org It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access).
[08:16] <Healot> !xfce4
[08:16] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[08:16] <FlannelKing> mivecz: apt-get xfce4 you're welcome to do similar things with aptitude, synaptec, etc
[08:16] <skreel> who can gibme a good adrees of a radio plz
[08:17] <dli> how to get dialup from the installation cd?
[08:17] <Healot> i'll do extX drive from windows... but I recommend not the do the other way around, writing ntfs from linux is troublesome...
[08:17] <elkbuntu> if anyone here plays text MUDs, what client do they use? surely there's something better than gmoo or gnome-mud
[08:17] <FlannelKing> elkbuntu: lyntin I think is the granddaddy of all clients
[08:17] <elkbuntu> FlannelKing, is it as good as zmud?
[08:18] <mivecz> E: Couldn't find package xfce4
[08:18] <Madpilot> !xfce
[08:18] <ubotu> well, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[08:18] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:gpg --send-keys 03697E5F
[08:18] <jiangguowei> gpg: sending key 03697E5F to hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[08:18] <jiangguowei> gpg: keyserver timed out
[08:18] <jiangguowei> gpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error
[08:18] <FlannelKing> elkbuntu: zmuds poo.  Mushclient is better.  You can run MC under wine.
[08:18] <Madpilot> !info xfce4
[08:18] <ubotu> xfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[08:18] <carlk> sambagirl: "based on MIPS R5000 CPU "  I don't think there is Ubuntu for that,
[08:18] <elkbuntu> i dont particuarly want to install wine... looks like too much effort :P
[08:18] <Madpilot> mivecz, you need to have Universe repo enabled to get xfce4
[08:18] <sambagirl> ok
[08:18] <FlannelKing> elkbuntu: if you want a nice graphical client, I'd suggest Mushclient and wine.  Lyntin is text based, old fashioned
[08:18] <mivecz> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <sambagirl> thanks carlk
[08:18] <sambagirl> again
[08:19] <carlk> elkbuntu: wine is in teh repo
[08:19] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:keyserver doesn't work?
[08:19] <skreel> who can type a radio adres plz
[08:19] <elkbuntu> Carlk i was under the impression there was alot of fiddling to do with it still
[08:19] <FlannelKing> elkbuntu: yeah, it's in the repo.  MC forums have a good tutorial on running with wine too.  Only difference from windows is you have to use Lua for scripting, as the other languages are DOM based.
[08:19] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, I don't know - see if there's a GPG channel on freenode
[08:19] <carlk> elkbuntu: that depends on what win apps you are trying to run
[08:20] <jrsims> isnt' "startx" supposed to come with my xorg download?
[08:20] <elkbuntu> is xwine worth installing?
[08:20] <sambagirl> what is a radio address?
[08:20] <jiangguowei> Madpilot:Ok.Let me try.Thank you very much!
[08:20] <elkbuntu> jrsims, startx is something you use before x is already running
[08:20] <elkbuntu> it starts the xserver
[08:21] <Madpilot> jiangguowei, #gnupg
[08:22] <jrsims> elkbuntu: ok, so where do I get it?
[08:22] <elkbuntu> jrsims, are you typing 'startx' at a console prompt?
[08:23] <sambagirl> what is a radio address?
[08:23] <levander> How screwed am i going to get if even though i have gcc 4 installed, i try to install gcc 3.3 also?
[08:23] <Healot> i would recommend /etc/init.d/gdm start instead :)
[08:23] <jrsims> elkbuntu: yes. just so you know, I installed the base system of ubuntu, so I'm now trying to acquire all the packages I need for basic windowing (fluxbox)
[08:23] <_jason> levander: 0 screwage
[08:23] <slvmchn> !info rosegarden
[08:24] <levander> _jason: mmmmm... this is scary
[08:24] <holy_cow> levander, none, nada, zilcho
[08:24] <ubotu> rosegarden: (An integrated MIDI sequencer and musical notation editor), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 2.1pl4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[08:24] <slvmchn> !info lmms
[08:24] <levander> holy_cow: you sure???
[08:24] <holy_cow> i've got it installed here
[08:24] <slvmchn> !info ardour
[08:24] <slvmchn> !info qjackctl
[08:24] <levander> holy_cow: you've got gcc 4 and gcc 3.3?
[08:24] <ubotu> qjackctl: (User interface for controlling the JACK sound server), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.18-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 345 kB, Installed size: 972 kB
[08:24] <slvmchn> !info jack
[08:24] <holy_cow> levander, you can always install/reinstall gcc versions later
[08:24] <carlk> jrsims: have you heard of xubuntu?
[08:24] <ubotu> jack: (Rip and encode CDs with one command), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 3.1.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 100 kB, Installed size: 540 kB
[08:24] <_jason> levander: I've 3.3, 3.4, and 4 and no problems
[08:24] <jrsims> carlk: no, what's that?
[08:24] <Healot> you can install all GCC versions side-by-side
[08:25] <Healot> technically
[08:25] <Redth> this is frustrating.... freeglut3-dev won't install
[08:25] <jiangguowei> Madpilot: yeah, I will join that channel.
[08:25] <holy_cow> its just a compiler, nothing depends on it
[08:25] <dli> "Can not get terminal parameter, input/output error", in dialup using "pon"
[08:25] <carlk> jrsims: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[08:25] <jrsims> carlk: I have no browser yet! what does it do? :)
[08:25] <carlk> dli: there is a better thing... yphone... no... just a sec.
[08:26] <dli> carlk, before anything good, how can I get it without dialup?
[08:26] <dreamy> how to register in windowsnt  domain???????
[08:27] <dstryr> what is wine?
[08:27] <Healot> a liquor? hehe
[08:27] <hatake_kakashi> !tell dstryr about wine
[08:27] <carlk> jrsims: "Ubuntu desktop experience (even on older hardware) by using Xfce4 as the desktop environment and GTK+ 2 applications"
[08:27] <levander> dstryr: windows emulator
[08:27] <carlk> dli: yeah, it is on the CD...  i think... im looking in a sec
[08:28] <dstryr> is stable if you run win app on it?
[08:28] <dstryr> like mirc and stuff
[08:28] <carlk> jrsims: "you can install it by doing a server install of Ubuntu and then fetching and installing the xubuntu-desktop package."
[08:28] <rupan3> aww why would you want mirc
[08:28] <Healot> dstryr, really depends on what your wine can do/its version///
[08:28] <dstryr> im just saying
[08:28] <dstryr> thats the only thing i could think of
[08:28] <jrsims> carlk: sounds good. I'll try it.
[08:28] <hatake_kakashi> dstryr: not all win32 programs can be running through wine.. and why the hell would you want to use mirc on linux? sheesh
[08:28] <rupan3> did you spend too much timelearning mircscript?
[08:29] <Healot> and the DLLs that your Windows app load
[08:29] <rupan3> hehe i know i did
[08:29] <rupan3> :p
[08:29] <dstryr> anyway , is there any plugins for xchat that shows your sys info?
[08:29] <Healot> damn, LInux for Linux apps :)
[08:29] <sinaduel> hello, I am using kubuntu, and do not wish to reset my OS to become a server for my site, so how would I go about doing it?
[08:29] <holy_cow> sinaduel, uninstall apache?
[08:29] <hatake_kakashi> dstryr: yes there is, I think xchat has some urls pointing around for it
[08:29] <polpak> sinaduel: you want to set up a web server?
[08:30] <Madpilot> dstryr, check the XChat homepage - xchat.org - there are piles of plugins
[08:30] <rupan3> sinaduel: i think it's unclear what you are asking
[08:30] <sinaduel> yes, I want to be a server for my web site
[08:30] <polpak> sinaduel: install apache
[08:30] <holy_cow> oh wait, INSTALL apache
[08:30] <holy_cow> heh
[08:30] <dreamy> how to register in windowsnt  domain???????
[08:30] <holy_cow> that was a trick question X)
[08:30] <sinaduel> thankyou
[08:30] <rupan3> haha
[08:30] <Healot> well, a default install of Xchat have perl/python/tcl binding
[08:31] <Healot> do you can write script using perl/python to work out with Xchat
[08:31] <carlk> dli: WvDial isn't what I was looking for, but it might help and is on the CD, i think...
[08:31] <dstryr> i just need a plugin for this
[08:31] <Healot> you mean pppd/pppconfig etc?
[08:32] <dli> carlk, I like wvdial, but it's not on the CD
[08:32] <Littl3_indian> Hi
[08:32] <Healot> wvdial is in the default install CD...
[08:32] <dstryr> i just loaded that perl sys info, but how come theres no dialog and stuff?
[08:32] <Littl3_indian> I am trying ubuntu installation for first time and am thru with it
[08:32] <Littl3_indian> but now i have a problem
[08:32] <dstryr> that you can press so that it shows your sys info?
[08:32] <dli> Healot, you sure?
[08:33] <Healot> yes...
[08:33] <Littl3_indian> the system stops @ startinghotplug subsystem
[08:33] <Healot> checkout synaptic... the default package list HAS WVDIAL
[08:33] <dli> Healot, how to install it? "apt-cdrom add", "apt-get install wvdial"?
[08:33] <Healot> up to you? should i ask ubotu ?
[08:34] <Healot> !tell dli about synaptic
[08:34] <dli> Healot, the first thing I tried was wvdial, quite dismayed, "wvdial can not be found"
[08:34] <Littl3_indian> I have selected only onboard grafix as suggested in a forum but that too does not work
[08:34] <Extreme_Unction> Anybody wanna play Contra 3 on Zsnes netplay?
[08:34] <Littl3_indian> Any help ?
[08:34] <Healot> not really my problem hehe
[08:35] <Healot> well, it is the default CD install though
[08:35] <Healot> use synaptic, help you less with the browsing for package
[08:35] <Keyframe> can you recommend good news reader for ubuntu/gnome ?
[08:35] <dli> Healot, thanks :)
[08:36] <Healot> mutt? well, you can use evolution///
[08:36] <jordo23> whatup yall
[08:37] <Littl3_indian> Did any one have a same problem  with Starting Hotplug Subsystem
[08:37] <Jdralphs> i think i broke something with opengl & my nvidia drivers.  I was having a probelm with the prepackaged driver from universe; my cpu usage randomly went up to 100% and stayed there -- top blamed xorg.  anyway so i made a new kernal and used the nvidia installer after uninstalling the old ones via apt-get, and now when i boot up everything that uses opengl seg faults.  anyone know what i could look into to fix it?
[08:37] <carlk> dli: WvDial is on my dapper CD
[08:37] <carlk> time for bed.. see ya all later
[08:37] <chuckyp> wow im runk who needs help?
[08:37] <freeone3000> Hello, I'm trying to install Java on someone with no knowledge of Ubuntu. I have root and all, I just have no idea why it's asking me for a library.
[08:37] <Littl3_indian> Me needs help :(
[08:37] <Healot> and the package name is "wvdial"
[08:38] <Jdralphs> aye me too
[08:38] <freeone3000> Why would it need one, and how do I tell it that it doesn't or that it already has it or that I can somehow get it?
[08:38] <Healot> which java package are you trying to install? the ubuntu's or Sun's?
[08:39] <dstryr> where i can find the folder /lspci ?
[08:39] <Extreme_Unction> It comes with the GNU Interpreter for Java version 1.4.1 I believe!
[08:39] <dli> carlk, my mistake wvdial is there :) thanks
[08:39] <polpak> ubotu tell freeone3000 about java
[08:39] <dstryr> or how to search for it?
[08:39] <dstryr> >
[08:39] <carlk> dli: hope it works for you - now I can sleep better
[08:42] <freeone3000> It says it can't find 'java-package'... is the wiki out of date? What's your guys's version of Debian's 'non-free' keyword?
[08:43] <Healot> is there such dir "/lspci"?
[08:43] <freeone3000> So I can edit /etc/apt/sources.list and all so it will show up...
[08:43] <Healot> or are you trying to run lspci (PCI bus tool)?
[08:43] <Extreme_Unction> freeone3000
[08:43] <Keyframe> I have mounted a samba drive over network in fstab.. but when I startup machine it asks me for password (there is none).. what should I put into options in fstab? if I make password='' it doesn't mount
[08:43] <Extreme_Unction> It's much easier just to get Sun Java deb package
[08:44] <Extreme_Unction> java-package is problematic at actually making the packages, anyway.
[08:44] <dstryr> im trying to edit the line from xchat plugin
[08:44] <dstryr> coz it doesn't show my vid card
[08:44] <freeone3000> Where can I get the sun java deb package?
[08:44] <Healot> freeone3000, in ubuntu, it's "universe"
[08:44] <Extreme_Unction> freeone3000: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[08:45] <Extreme_Unction> Use dpkg to install it
[08:45] <GullyFoyle> the java-package install thing went pefectly for me on amd54 kubuntu
[08:45] <Healot> freeone3000, you can make your own... install make-jpkg
[08:45] <freeone3000> Thank you.
[08:45] <Extreme_Unction> Oh, your on amd64.. freeone?
[08:45] <Extreme_Unction> That's for i386
[08:45] <Healot> dl the sun' jre/jdk make
[08:45] <Littl3_indian> Can any one please give me any solution on my problem with HotPlug Subsystem @ startup
[08:46] <dstryr> and yeah, in /sbin dir, which one is your vid card?
[08:46] <Extreme_Unction> freeone3000: That's not a good package if your on x86_64/x64
[08:46] <curley_sue> hi, how do I run a root priviliged command in a script without having the need for pw request?
[08:46] <dstryr> sudo ?
[08:46] <curley_sue> in a script?
[08:47] <Extreme_Unction> su root
[08:47] <Extreme_Unction> You still have to enter it, but only once :\
[08:47] <Keyframe> how can I make blank password in fstab?
[08:48] <curley_sue> I need to add a key shortcut to fluxbox key file. the action needs su priviliges, how is that done without the need for a pw everytime?
[08:48] <Extreme_Unction> add it to your bash file?
[08:48] <curley_sue> Extreme_Unction, I dont understand
[08:48] <_amin> can someone please tellme the list of terminal commands and their functionz ?
[08:49] <graeme> in upgrading from 5.04 to breezy, i have changed the in the synaptic package manager all the repos that ended with hoary to breezy, but i am still not getting a full upgrade
[08:49] <Extreme_Unction>  - /home/name/bashrc are things executed at bash startup
[08:49] <graeme> my ubuntu still says its running hoary
[08:51] <curley_sue> _amin, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands , http://www.computerhope.com/index.htm
[08:51] <Enignon> I'm not too sure if I'm just looking in all the wrong places or not, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting 5.10 to install on a *cringe* celeron 400, it's locking up or appears to be after successfully starting the "kernal log daemon". Any suggestions not involving a sledge hammer appreciated.
[08:51] <Littl3_indian> Whats Hotplug  ? USB?
[08:51] <mikebot> if i want to link soemthing to a program ran with wine, can i do: "ln -s win /media/blah.exe ~/Desktop"?
[08:51] <mikebot> *wine
[08:51] <Enignon> ^kernel I mean
[08:52] <FlannelKing> _amin: go to /usr/bin and take a look.
[08:52] <GeorgeAScott> is there a quick and easy way to change the permisions to a directory including all files, folders and sub-folders
[08:53] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: you want the -R flag for chmod (are you really sure you want to change their permission?)
[08:53] <Littl3_indian> I have googled for my problem but i dont find a proper result. Many seem to have this problem anyways
[08:53] <GeorgeAScott> its for my music directory, when i copy a cd to my harddrive
[08:54] <GeorgeAScott> it only lets me read and execute.... (sorry for pressing enter)
[08:54] <dstryr> in /sbin dir, which one is your vid card?
[08:54] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: the -R flag is whta youre looking for.
[08:55] <GeorgeAScott> so i would type sudo chmod -r /dir/yada yada....?
[08:56] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: chmod -R [mask]  /path/to/stuff
[08:56] <FlannelKing> shouldn't have tosudo, since they're owned by you.
[08:56] <FlannelKing> and, NOT sudoing is a good thing, since if you accidentally point somewhere wrong, you'll know.
[08:57] <FlannelKing> instead of chmod'ing your entire harddrive 777 ;)
[08:57] <GeorgeAScott> haha right... ok... so what's [mask] ?
[08:57] <Healot> my mask is made from plastic :)
[08:58] <Enignon> *chuckles* I get the feeling a sledge hammer is the most obvious solution then to my query
[08:58] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: 1+2+4 depending on which flags you want.  Google it ;)  Since that'll help you determine exactly what you want anyway
[08:58] <Healot> the term's "octal"
[08:58] <GeorgeAScott> alrighty.. thanks a bunch.. hehe made from plastic...
[09:00] <FlannelKing> Healot: it's Octal yeah, but that's not the important information
[09:00] <dstryr> what would be the problem when i turned my volume on, it says you don't have GStreamer plugins installed or you don't have a sound configured
[09:00] <dstryr> what's this?
[09:00] <dstryr> what's GStreamer?
[09:00] <CineFX3D_> how can I install Wifi support? I have a dell laptop.. and when I do iwconfig I don't see wlan device
[09:00] <Healot> it is important... who knows, if the chmod 999 ?
[09:02] <FlannelKing> Healot: they could be hex, you can't tell.  might have a new flag someday
[09:02] <Psykus> hey, I just installed unreal tournament 2004 (linux version of course), and i can't seem to get sound working on it, any suggestions?
[09:02] <Healot> hehe... if they have FS like WInFS or NTFS :)
[09:02] <slvmchn> damn, there are some nice screen savers on ubuntu
[09:02] <Psykus> the game says it uses "OpenAL" for sound, which doesn't sound familiar
[09:02] <slvmchn> every couple days i see a new one
[09:02] <Healot> in mean in linux world
[09:03] <FlannelKing> Nah, Healot, theyre just bits.  Nothign saying there can't be four.
[09:03] <dstryr> oh its that alsa stuff
[09:03] <Littl3_indian> Anyone can please gimme some info on the issue with hotplug subsystem
[09:03] <Healot> what FS has UUID?
[09:04] <Healot> is it JFS? Reiser?
[09:04] <jrsims> hey, when I run startx, it's saying i don't have permission. How do I change that?
[09:04] <dstryr> ey Healot
[09:04] <Psykus> looking in the package manager, it says libraries for openal are already installed
[09:04] <CineFX3D_> how can I install Wifi support? I have a dell laptop.. and when I do iwconfig I don't see wlan device
[09:05] <Healot> the support proggies are there, but you didn't install the driver for you wifi card yet
[09:05] <Healot> you can 'iwconfig' right?
[09:05] <CineFX3D_> yeah
[09:05] <CineFX3D_> but I don't see wlan device
[09:05] <dstryr> anyone?
[09:06] <dstryr> what would be the problem when i turned my volume on, it says you don't have GStreamer plugins installed or you don't have a sound configured
[09:06] <Healot> sure/// driver is not loaded yet///
[09:06] <CineFX3D_> how where should I load it? :/
[09:06] <Healot> dstryr, what program are u using to change vol?
[09:06] <dstryr> Volume Control
[09:06] <dstryr> from the taskbar
[09:06] <Healot> first thing, get the driver, for Dell, i think mostly Intel's Wifi?
[09:06] <Psykus> so, anyone have a clue why ut2004 is being silent?
[09:06] <CineFX3D_> yes, probably
[09:07] <Healot> dstryr, can you here any sound?
[09:07] <dstryr> no
[09:07] <dstryr> no volume
[09:07] <Healot> well, without changing the vol
[09:07] <jaawood> depends on the card, some dells are broadcom chipsets, and you have to use ndiswrapper to install the driver
[09:07] <dstryr> i think i need to install that alsa/gstreamer stuff
[09:07] <Healot> ok, that means you haven't configure your soundcard yet, dstryr
[09:07] <dstryr> how do you do that?
[09:07] <Healot> well, for intel's new 2200 wifi, you need "ndiswrapper"
[09:08] <Enignon> I'm not too sure if I'm just looking in all the wrong places or not, but I'm having a bit of trouble getting 5.10 to install on a *cringe* celeron 400, it's locking up or appears to be after successfully starting the "kernel log daemon". Any suggestions not involving a sledge hammer appreciated.
[09:08] <CineFX3D_> lscpi says broadcom
[09:09] <dstryr> how do you configure your soundcard?
[09:09] <Healot> dstryr, usually it's autoconfigured, during install... but if you cannot find any after install, probably your sound card not supported by the kernel
[09:09] <CineFX3D_> should I go with ndiswrapper then?
[09:10] <Healot> need to find the driver and compile it manually... though, this is one is tough...
[09:10] <Healot> CineFX3D_, yes...
[09:10] <dstryr> i can see my soundcard when in lspci
[09:10] <dstryr> -when
[09:10] <Littl3_indian> Can any one please give me any solution why my system stops while Satrting HotPlug Subsystem @ startup
[09:10] <Littl3_indian> Starting*
[09:11] <Healot> sure...
[09:11] <Littl3_indian> :)
[09:11] <FlannelKing> Littl3_indian: have you tried google?  since I don't think anyonehere knows.
[09:11] <Littl3_indian> ya i did
[09:11] <Healot> btu there is no dsp driver for your sound card, can you tell me what's the model of that?
[09:11] <GeorgeAScott> FlannelKing: is this a suitable mask for what i was wanting to do?   drwxr-xr-x
[09:11] <FlannelKing> that'd be 755
[09:11] <FlannelKing> or, shorthand ;)
[09:12] <Enignon> no clue, mine is hanging after starting the kernel log daemon *shrugs* google was no hel so I'm thinking a 10 pound sledge right now...or maybe a different video card on the off chance
[09:12] <Littl3_indian> I found a solution  found said Select Onboard gfx whihc i did and no help
[09:12] <Littl3_indian> Is it a issue with the gfx cad ?
[09:12] <Littl3_indian> card*
[09:12] <FlannelKing> Littl3_indian: you actually might have better luck asking in ##linux, since that doesn't sound like an ubuntu specific issue
[09:13] <FlannelKing> well, apart from I really don't think anyone who is !idle here knows
[09:13] <Healot> dstryr, try to reconfigure you "linux-sound-base"
[09:13] <Healot> what's the command line again?
[09:13] <Littl3_indian> Well i used a boot cd on same machine which went fine .
[09:13] <Healot> dpkg --reconfigure linux-sound-base ? is this right?
[09:14] <Littl3_indian> Now just after installation it behave like this :(
[09:14] <dstryr> sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base
[09:14] <dstryr> i think
[09:14] <Healot> ok... try that then...
[09:14] <Eidan> hi all
[09:14] <Healot> i usually use synaptic...
[09:15] <Healot> if you still can't get sound, i think the kernel doesnot have module for your sound card...
[09:15] <dstryr> ic
[09:15] <kjon> Hello there: I would like to know how is possible to switch the video output from the LCD to the vga port of a notebook.
[09:16] <dstryr> when you update that linux-sound-base, do you have to restart X >
[09:16] <dstryr> ?
[09:16] <_amin> what is the command to unzip any .tgz file ?
[09:16] <dstryr> tar -xzvf file.tgz
[09:16] <dstryr> or tar file.tgz
[09:17] <kjon> my videocard is an Intel 82852/855GM
[09:17] <Healot> dstryr, no, no need to restart X
[09:17] <dstryr> but how do you know if its updated?
[09:18] <Healot> open vol manager again...
[09:18] <dstryr> will the Volume Control pop up?
[09:18] <dstryr> oh ic
[09:18] <Healot> built-in intel huh
[09:18] <GeorgeAScott> FlannelKing: well i think 755 is what i want.  now that will affect all the files in the folder and subfolders?
[09:18] <mivecz> how to isntall a gtk2.x theme in  xfce4
[09:18] <mivecz> ?
[09:19] <mivecz> install*
[09:19] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: that's what the -R flag is for
[09:19] <FlannelKing> makes it recursive
[09:19] <Healot> true...
[09:19] <GeorgeAScott> oh ok... sorry
[09:19] <Healot> -R the capital R :)
[09:19] <mivecz> how to install a gtk2.x theme in  xfce4
[09:19] <mivecz> ?
[09:19] <Healot> apt-get install?
[09:20] <mivecz> theme man
[09:20] <FlannelKing> mivecz: apt-get search xfce4 find the package you want
[09:20] <FlannelKing> then  apt-get install [package name] 
[09:20] <Healot> see :)
[09:21] <Eidan> guys someone can help me installing XGL please...^
[09:21] <Eidan> or just tell me how to check if i've the latesta driver for nvidia and if is all configured well?
[09:21] <mivecz> i download  a theme  from  a web site  how?
[09:21] <Healot> you need this package first "gtk2-engines-xfce"
[09:21] <kuja> Eidan: Why not just use the nvidia packages in the Ubuntu respitory?
[09:22] <Healot> Gtk+-2.0 theme engine for Xfce
[09:22] <pinpoint> start gnome?
[09:22] <Eidan> kuja
[09:22] <Eidan> how?
[09:22] <pinpoint> does that work
[09:22] <mivecz> gtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version
[09:22] <Eidan> can i query u for a second?
[09:22] <kuja> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:22] <chafe> how do i set root password
[09:23] <pinpoint> passwd su
[09:23] <kuja> Then all you have to do is sudo modprobe nvidia, after that, edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change whatever driver to use 'nvidia'
[09:23] <pinpoint> passwd root
[09:23] <chafe> what?
[09:23] <Healot> sudo passwd root
[09:23] <Healot> in first install
[09:23] <chafe> no
[09:23] <mivecz> Healot gtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version
[09:23] <FlannelKing> !rootsudo
[09:23] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:23] <sonasks>  what will be faster - scsi u320 on mirror or sata on raid 5 ??
[09:23] <TheMik> Hello all, I just popped in for a quick ?......I was wondering if 5.10 would run decently on a K6-450 Mhz puter (w 75 mhz FSB)
[09:23] <chafe> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[09:24] <FlannelKing> chafe, read that.
[09:24] <chafe> thanks FlannelKing
[09:24] <Healot> TheMik, yes it can. slow however with X running
[09:24] <TheMik> Slower than XP?
[09:24] <Eidan> kuja
[09:24] <Eidan> but when i restart
[09:24] <Healot> YES :()
[09:25] <Eidan> i've to see the white nvidia  screen?
[09:25] <FlannelKing> TheMik: You might want to think of a non gnome/KDE window manager, but yeah, it'll run.
[09:25] <Eidan> so it works?
[09:25] <chafe> wait a minute
[09:25] <kuja> Eidan: Yes, it works.
[09:25] <chafe> no this isnt working
[09:25] <Healot> without X, fast as a "supercomputer", not literally speaking
[09:25] <joelbryan> anyone here knows how to use sed?
[09:25] <Eidan> if the white nvidia screen doesen't come out
[09:25] <mivecz> Healot gtk2-engines-xfce is already the newest version
[09:25] <chafe> i can use sudo to set the root password at first install
[09:25] <Eidan> there's something wrong?
[09:25] <chafe> ?
[09:25] <chafe> or
[09:25] <TheMik> Well this is for my 4 yr olds puter, I want the most user friendly interface
[09:25] <TheMik> and what is "X"
[09:25] <FlannelKing> chafe: why are you setting the root password?
[09:25] <Healot> mivecz, i wasn't talking bout the versio, please stop repeating
[09:26] <CineFX3D_> fucking broadcom
[09:26] <chafe> FlannelKing i just installed
[09:26] <Healot> haha
[09:26] <pinpoint> chafe, usually sudo passwd root will do
[09:26] <Healot> CineFX3D_, no, fuck intel instead :)
[09:26] <pinpoint> just type in your password for the current first users
[09:26] <pinpoint> user*
[09:26] <CineFX3D_> fuck'em all :)
[09:26] <ohy4> so if my kernel doesn't have module for my sound card, is there any other way to fix this?
[09:26] <FlannelKing> chafe: Ubunt doesn't really use a root password, we have different scheme.  did you read that page?
[09:26] <chafe> i have NOT set a root password yet
[09:26] <mivecz> i have  the  gtk-engine  so what  after
[09:26] <FlannelKing> chafe there is NO root password in ubuntu by default
[09:26] <Healot> ohy4, find the driver at manufacturer's site...
[09:26] <chafe> hmm..
[09:26] <chafe> yea ill read more
[09:27] <edward_> hello all
[09:27] <kuja> TheMik: X is the window system.
[09:27] <pinpoint> sudo does just fine
[09:27] <Healot> and compile it... this is the tough part
[09:27] <joelbryan> CineFX3D_:  are you refering to NIC card?
[09:27] <ohy4> then what
[09:27] <chafe> i started reading, looking for something like knoppix uses
[09:27] <CineFX3D_> wlan in dell
[09:27] <Healot> his broadcom wifi
[09:27] <ohy4> what you do after compiling
[09:27] <spacey> TheMik: X handles all the graphics. So itdoesn't matter which window manager you take (gnome, kde, xfce) you always use it
[09:27] <edward_> is there a epository of drivers for ubuntu anywhere?
[09:27] <pinpoint> CineFX3D_, for a dell lappy
[09:27] <edward_> *depository
[09:27] <TheMik> ahh thx, so it is a needed thing then
[09:27] <Healot> ohy4, then if compilation exits fin, then you should have a working sound card?
[09:27] <pinpoint> mine never worked even after ndiswrapper
[09:27] <kuja> TheMik: If you want a graphical environment, it's necessary, yep.
[09:27] <CineFX3D_> pinpoint: yeah.. I'm messing with ndiswrapper now
[09:27] <joelbryan> CineFX3D_:  do you get disconnected after 1 minute? I have a solution.
[09:28] <ohy4> what?
[09:28] <TheMik> well for a 4 yr old it def is lol
[09:28] <Healot> not all wifi drivers works with ndiswrapper...
[09:28] <pinpoint> i had to get a netgear card
[09:28] <CineFX3D_> joelbryan: I get no connection yet.. still on drivers :)
[09:28] <pinpoint> it works like a charm
[09:28] <chafe> oh goD
[09:28] <chafe> Oh god
[09:28] <chafe> :cry:
[09:28] <kuja> TheMik: You sure a 4 year old should be using Linux? It's not bad, but maybe something like Edubuntu :)
[09:28] <derek_57hgf> hello
[09:28] <Healot> i recommend you to get a netgear or the older broadcom wifi card...
[09:28] <kuja> TheMik: Edubuntu puts a high focus on education.
[09:28] <chafe> okay so i dont need to set anything really?
[09:29] <chafe> but
[09:29] <ohy4> its 3:28 AM i got school tomorrow
[09:29] <mivecz> where to  change  the  theme in  xfce4?
[09:29] <edward_> anyone using a cmedia soundcard?
[09:29] <joelbryan> CineFX3D_:  yeh, I have 2 NIC's that barely supported in kernel 2.16
[09:29] <ohy4> ill ask yall later
[09:29] <GeorgeAScott> FlannelKing: the app "nautilus" wasn't supposed to quit unexpectedly after chmoding was it?
[09:29] <RemyLaptop> hi guys.  question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?
[09:29] <chafe> when i press the Administrator Mode button, i get "Su returned with an error."
[09:29] <TheMik> oh really?  I will check it out, and yes a 4 yr should be on linux, keep them out of corp corruption as long as I can ;)
[09:29] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: laugh, what did you do?
[09:29] <_amin> what is the command to unzip any .tgz file ?
[09:29] <chafe> great error thanks
[09:29] <pinpoint> tar zxf filename.tgz
[09:29] <RemyLaptop> I recently installed the art thing, but that's the only thing I can think of ...
[09:30] <FlannelKing> chafe: are you running ubuntu?
[09:30] <GeorgeAScott> hrmmm i did chmod -R 755 /path/to/blah
[09:30] <chafe> i am running kubuntu
[09:30] <Healot> Corrupt your children with GNU/Linux hehe
[09:30] <chafe> sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[09:30] <chafe> okay?
[09:30] <FlannelKing> chafe: did you type your user password at the prompt it gave you?
[09:30] <kuja> TheMik: You might as well tack on a few programming languages too :)
[09:30] <derek_57hgf> i am having problems with the nforce audio driver from nvidia.can any one help me?I've followed the instructions exactly but I can not get alsa to work and oss stops working after about 5 seconds.
[09:30] <TheMik> LOL
[09:30] <chafe> FlannelKing No prompt..
[09:30] <TheMik> not sure if she' ready for that
[09:30] <kuja> TheMik: I know a kid that's been using Linux since near birth, now he works for a good company programming for big bucks.
[09:30] <RemyLaptop> !tell derek_57hgf about easyubuntu
[09:31] <TheMik> sweet my retirement set then
[09:31] <kuja> TheMik: =)
[09:31] <chafe> there is no prompt
[09:31] <RemyLaptop> question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?
[09:31] <RemyLaptop> I recently installed the art thing, but that's the only thing I can think of ...
[09:31] <mivecz> where to go to  change  the  theme in  xfce4?
[09:31] <GeorgeAScott> ya know... my nautilus quits unexpectedly quite often... why!
[09:31] <chafe> just "sudo: unable to lookup hostname via gethostbyname()
[09:31] <pinpoint> i got that error before
[09:31] <derek_57hgf> RemyLaptop: thanks,I will give that a try
[09:31] <pinpoint> thats was typing localhost for my hostname
[09:31] <RemyLaptop> np
[09:31] <pinpoint> or using a name
[09:31] <FlannelKing> TheMik: don't waste time on Edubuntu.  Educational games are hot air.  Get the kid outside playing in the dirt and stuff.  Thats what really gets their minds going.
[09:32] <TheMik> dirt would be nice
[09:32] <sonasks> yeah..
[09:32] <chafe> hmm okay
[09:32] <FlannelKing> chafe: I don't know.  Did you setup a hostname during the install? try googling it.
[09:32] <GeorgeAScott> closing and/or restarting nautilus only brings up the pop-up that it has quit unexpectedly... again
[09:32] <chafe> yeah, i did
[09:32] <pinpoint> do a name?
[09:32] <chafe> my hostname is set up as lerptop
[09:32] <pinpoint> i see
[09:32] <TheMik> Michigan, central part just on the otherside of the great lakes = lots of snow
[09:32] <chafe> i replaced "lerptop" with "hostname" when i pasted the error
[09:32] <RemyLaptop> question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?
[09:32] <FlannelKing> GeorgeAScott: which folder did you chmod?
[09:32] <RemyLaptop> !x
[09:33] <ubotu> it has been said that x is a portable, network-transparent window system.
[09:33] <curley_sue> HELP how can I run ' /etc/acpi/sleep.sh sleep' without the need for PW?
[09:33] <chafe> i havent even touched the damn thing yet
[09:33] <TheMik> so outside time is limited atm
[09:33] <pinpoint> RemyLaptop, erm runlevel 5?
[09:33] <GeorgeAScott> FlannelKing: /media/windows/Muzak
[09:33] <RemyLaptop> pinpoint ?
[09:33] <GeorgeAScott> but i meant that even before i chmoded anything.. nautilus would crash on a regular basis
[09:34] <RemyLaptop> pinpoint, what do you mean by that ?
[09:34] <CineFX3D_> in ifconfig.. hwaddr is MAC address?
[09:34] <FlannelKing> TheMik: eh, just doing stuff, it can be in the house, whantot.  Get them interested in stuff, real world stuff, don't just plop them infront of "educational" things.  Schools teach 'information' they need to learn to enjoy learning first.
[09:34] <chafe> oh this is great
[09:34] <chafe> the error i am getting, from sudo, is because /etc/hosts does not have the hostname lerptop in it
[09:34] <chafe> so
[09:34] <chafe> i guess i should edit that with sudo right?
[09:35] <chafe> well shit..
[09:35] <FlannelKing> chafe: you running breezy? or dapper?
[09:35] <chafe> breezy
[09:35] <ddonky> i have a hp 'internet/media-type' keyboard with all the buttons for volume and dvd controls, anyone know how to map those keys to totem and rythmbox?
[09:35] <RemyLaptop> !runlevel
[09:35] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[09:35] <TheMik> Oh I know but she should learn puters as well ;)
[09:35] <pinpoint> chafe, hostname [newhostname] 
[09:35] <pinpoint> RemyLaptop, in inittab i think
[09:35] <TheMik> and with her attention span she lasts for about 30 mins a day lol
[09:36] <FlannelKing> TheMik: aye.  But don't do the whole 'educational games' give her a command line and a basic interpreter.
[09:36] <kuja> Now THAT is a way to raise a kid.
[09:36] <chafe> pinpoint funny i must be root to do that too
[09:36] <ddonky> hmmm actually the volume whell already works
[09:36] <kuja> If I have a kid, I'm going to make him/her learn C :P
[09:36] <pinpoint> sudo hostname myhostname
[09:36] <RemyLaptop> pinpoint, could I get the "for dummies" version of that ?
[09:36] <TheMik> LOL she can only spell her name atm
[09:36] <chafe> pinpoint ...sudo is giving me an error, because the hostname is not in /etc/hosts
[09:36] <derek_57hgf> RemyLaptop: I dont see anything about the audio driver in there.Is it there?
[09:36] <RemyLaptop> dunno
[09:36] <GeorgeAScott> atm is an odd name for a child... no offense
[09:37] <RemyLaptop> derek_57hgf, I would assume it gets installed with the video driver...
[09:37] <derek_57hgf> i have the video driver installed already
[09:37] <kuja> TheMik: Trust me, make her learn C, and she will be paying you for life :P
[09:37] <FlannelKing> kuja: first real experience I had was BASIC programming on the atari 2600, I was 5.  Its good stuff.
[09:37] <RemyLaptop> hmk, I'm stumped then :)
[09:37] <TheMik> she is slow so we kept it simple :P
[09:37] <derek_57hgf> thanks anyways
[09:37] <pinpoint> RemyLaptop, edit > /etc/inittab change runlevel to 5
[09:37] <chafe> wow!!
[09:38] <chafe> this is great!!
[09:38] <kuja> FlannelKing: I know a kid just like that (as I mentioned earlier), totally obsessive and now codes for good cash for a living (dropped out of high school though)
[09:38] <chafe> lollercaust!
[09:38] <pinpoint> ?
[09:38] <chafe> how can i fix this error that sudo is giving me without being root?
[09:38] <TheMik> She will more than likely be an actress/singer w/ her personality
[09:38] <pinpoint> can you edit chafe?
[09:38] <chafe> edit what?
[09:38] <RemyLaptop> ta
[09:38] <chafe> edit /etc/hosts? no
[09:38] <pinpoint> /etc/hosts
[09:38] <chafe> use hostname hostname? no
[09:38] <chafe> i cannot
[09:38] <pinpoint> vi /etc/hosts
[09:39] <pinpoint> crap, i cant remember what i did for that error
[09:39] <pinpoint> i think i reinstalled O_O
[09:39] <RemyLaptop> !inittab
[09:39] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, RemyLaptop
[09:39] <FlannelKing> TheMik: so, why you worried about teaching her computers?  She's four.  Shes a kid, she'll be more proficient than you at what she wants to do on the computer in a day... well, once she's old enough.
[09:39] <chafe> pinpoint yea definitely cant do any editing of /etc/hosts
[09:39] <cwillu> what would the bash equivilent of dir *.log* /s be?
[09:40] <chafe> funny i havent touched the damn install
[09:40] <Psykus> are there any good GUI based download managers for linux? perhaps a frontend to wget?
[09:40] <FlannelKing> chafe: if you haven't touched it, reinstall.
[09:40] <FlannelKing> chafe: actually, you installed kubuntu?  Try asking over there.  #kubuntu
[09:40] <sonasks> in my opinion - kid should go thrwoing stuff, play in a dirt, ride and crash on bikes - that`s a damn mindstorm !
[09:40] <TheMik> Oh well my sis was going to throw away her old puter and just took it and set it up for her, so she could get on Nickjr and disney just to play around
[09:40] <kuja> Psykus: If all else fails, the Linux community would appreciate your contribution if you made one for us :)
[09:40] <pinpoint> cwillu,  ls *.log*
[09:41] <cwillu> that's recursive?
[09:41] <kuja> ls -R
[09:41] <sonasks> mostly -R is recursive
[09:41] <pinpoint> yeah
[09:42] <kuja> rm -Rf, chmod -R, chown -R, ls -R
[09:42] <kuja> All -R :)
[09:42] <Psykus> i found one for KDE, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15983.html
[09:42] <TheMik> But I hate Win98 and xp is to slow on there so I thought Linux would be an better alt for it, but wanted something with an easy interface so I researched and chose Ubuntu
[09:42] <chafe> i am asking but there is NOBODY in there
[09:42] <pinpoint> still cant edit
[09:42] <kuja> TheMik: Have you installed Ubuntu yet?
[09:43] <TheMik> Trust me she does plenty of playtime, like I said she only will be on it for about 30 mins a day and gets bored
[09:43] <TheMik> No not yet
[09:43] <cwillu> ahh, much better, thanks
[09:43] <kuja> Ubuntu is easy enough to set up, not different from Debian (IMO)
[09:43] <chafe> what the FUCK
[09:43] <pinpoint> ?
[09:44] <kuja> In fact, I'd say the Ubuntu install is exactly like Debian, except that it installed ubuntu-desktop. -_-
[09:44] <chafe> i wouldnt say that kuja, i really really wouldnt
[09:44] <FlannelKing> kuja: you haven't been under the hood then, have you?
[09:44] <CineFX3D_> haha, ndiswrapper :))
[09:45] <kuja> The only difference I've seen in the install process is that in Debian I have to manually apt-get install gnome
[09:45] <CineFX3D_> thanks guys for all the cool help
[09:45] <TheMik> Well I know nothing of linux except from 1996 when I used, but alot has changed since
[09:45] <pinpoint> chafe, are you in X
[09:45] <chafe> yes pinpoint
[09:45] <CineFX3D_> now only tell me if there is a wifi widget or something like that I can monitor signal strength and activity
[09:45] <pinpoint> ctrl+alt+f1
[09:45] <CineFX3D_> alt+f7
[09:45] <Psykus> is ubuntu going to get a graphical installer anytime soon?
[09:45] <pinpoint> to jump back do f7
[09:46] <chafe> yeah
[09:46] <kuja> PsyberOne: Next release, Dapper
[09:46] <chafe> login as my regular self again?
[09:46] <pinpoint> sure
[09:46] <pinpoint> use sudo
[09:46] <chafe> okay well sudo gives me the same error, of course
[09:46] <pinpoint> it will take your  normal user pass
[09:46] <Psykus> wrong nick complete, but cool :P
[09:46] <kuja> Psykus*
[09:46] <kuja> :)
[09:46] <chafe> i didnt expect that to change
[09:46] <pinpoint> ?
[09:47] <chafe> sudo still does not work; is there something else you were going to suggest?
[09:47] <Psykus> i always thought that was kind of strange that ubuntu had a non-graphical installer
[09:47] <chafe> am i jumping ahead of myself like an idiot?
[09:47] <kuja> Psykus: It is, actually.
[09:48] <kuja> I think it's kind of strange Ubuntu likes to follow Debian's release dates.
[09:48] <pinpoint> yes, editing /etc/hosts :)
[09:48] <chafe> im still the same user ...?
[09:48] <pinpoint> chare reboot into recovery mode
[09:49] <TheMik> Ubuntu has no live cd I take it?
[09:49] <pinpoint> root automatically
[09:49] <kuja> TheMik: It does.
[09:49] <TheMik> Oh even better
[09:49] <kuja> !livecd
[09:49] <chafe> oh okay
[09:49] <GullyFoyle> Psykus are you using kubuntu? because i had that problem
[09:49] <chafe> recovery mode aye
[09:49] <kuja> What's the damn tell command
[09:49] <kuja> !tell TheMik about livecd
[09:49] <kuja> There we go
[09:49] <danielnewbie> I tried to open Bittorrent, but a window popped up asking me to locate Bittorrent meta file, Does anyone know where I can find this (or do I have to download it)?
[09:49] <pinpoint> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost <yourhostname>
[09:49] <Psykus> for ut2004?
[09:50] <TheMik> Thx :)
[09:50] <pinpoint> chafe, then reboot
[09:50] <Littl3_indian> No help on HotPlug Subsystem anywhere :(
[09:50] <Psykus> GullyFoyle, did you mean the ut2004 sound issue?
[09:50] <GullyFoyle> Psykus: yup
[09:51] <jessy_> can somebody help me on how configure pureftpd in order to use another port that 21
[09:51] <Psykus> oh, it decided to work all of a sudden
[09:51] <Psykus> and no, i'm on standard ubuntu/gnome
[09:52] <CineFX3D_> is there a wifi widget or something like that I can monitor signal strength and activity?
[09:52] <TheMik> Hmm the guide is for a linux based machine, I will search for a Xp based one (Isobutster comes to mind)
[09:53] <GullyFoyle> Psykus: if you are using kde it will lock up alsa for a specific period of time until it's not being used. yo can change that amount of time to 5 seconds or so, so you don't have to wait.
[09:53] <Psykus> weird, it's not wanting to work now, no clue what's going on
[09:53] <chafe> eeegh
[09:53] <pinpoint> jessy
[09:53] <pinpoint> jessy_
[09:53] <frank_> whats a goog wifi manager for ubuntu
[09:53] <sonasks> god i hate alsa so much...
[09:53] <GullyFoyle> Psykus: that's why i asked if you were using kubuntu
[09:53] <Mirv> is anyone using Ibook G4? do you have any idea how difficult is to change a hard drive in it to another one?
[09:53] <pinpoint> too bad he quit
[09:53] <Psykus> speaking of sound, is there any way to disable the system beep, and make it play a sound through the soundcard instead?
[09:53] <pinpoint> -S xx.xx.xx.xx,port
[09:53] <Psykus> ah
[09:54] <Mirv> I'd love to buy a IBook G4 (12") and run Ubuntu on it, but faster&larger hdd would be nice
[09:54] <pinpoint> chafe, ?
[09:54] <Cliff> do people actually use this
[09:54] <Syns> how do i get pine?
[09:54] <Syns> its not available through synaptic
[09:54] <sixslap> Does anyone have a good link for idendt.conf help?
[09:54] <GullyFoyle> Syns: go to the woods? just kidding
[09:54] <Syns> lol
[09:55] <sixslap> need example conf of a enabled identd
[09:55] <Cliff> www.google.com
[09:55] <Syns> does ubuntu not support pine?
[09:55] <sixslap> lmao
[09:55] <sixslap> thats funnny
[09:55] <kuja> People buy Macs and put Linux on it? Ahaha
[09:55] <chafe> Cliff sometimes
[09:55] <kuja> What a waste of money :)
[09:55] <Cliff> thats kinda whacked
[09:55] <Psykus> ok, now no sound is working
[09:55] <sonasks> that`s pretty dumb
[09:56] <chafe> yeah i just installed just now
[09:56] <Psykus> linux sound seems to always be spotty for me
[09:56] <slvmchn> why is that dumb
[09:56] <sonasks> putting linux on Mac - damn... Mac was born from Linux
[09:56] <Cliff> i've had trouble with it
[09:56] <sixslap> linux sound kicks ass
[09:56] <pinpoint> chafe, work?
[09:56] <chafe> and im still kinda debating wether i should keep using this
[09:56] <slvmchn> if i had a g4 laptop i'd probably want to dual boot ubuntu w/osx
[09:56] <sixslap> actully
[09:56] <sonasks> you practically got Linux on it man
[09:56] <Cliff> hippie
[09:56] <Psykus> i might dual-boot OSX/ubuntu
[09:56] <Cliff> hippie
[09:56] <slvmchn> lol
[09:56] <GullyFoyle> Mac OSX is FreeBSD3.3 kernel
[09:56] <slvmchn> is it really, that's interesting
[09:56] <chafe> yes it worked pinpoint, but the "Administrator Mode" in my settings... my wifi options are still all greyed out
[09:57] <pinpoint> what card?
[09:57] <frank_> how can i update breezy to latest dapper release?
[09:57] <kuja> So someone would waste good money to buy a Mac and put Linux on it, when you can get like 2 computers of the same quality for a similar price and just put Linux on both of them? >>>WOW<<<
[09:57] <Littl3_indian> Well while installation i was'n asked for a superuser password
[09:57] <chafe> hey Cliff
[09:57] <Cliff> what
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> Now i is asking
[09:58] <Cliff> what?
[09:58] <chafe> do you live in florida
[09:58] <sonasks> it`d a password for a user you are on right now
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> Is there any default pwd
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> ?
[09:58] <Cliff> nope
[09:58] <Cliff> i live in utica
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> i tried that
[09:58] <Littl3_indian> no help
[09:58] <chafe> utica
[09:58] <chafe> how is that
[09:58] <Cliff> utica ny 13501
[09:59] <Cliff> we have a brewery and im drunk
[09:59] <pinpoint> Littl3_indian, installation of...
[09:59] <chafe> have you used ubuntu
[09:59] <sonasks> aren`t the Red marlboro`s the best or what ??
[09:59] <Littl3_indian> ya
[09:59] <sixslap> cliff is drunk
[09:59] <GeorgeAScott> so are there any other breezy users who have trouble with nautilus quiting unexpectedly... and ff1.5 as well?
[09:59] <Cliff> yea im running it now
[09:59] <sixslap> see cliff drink
[09:59] <sixslap> see cliff fall
[09:59] <Littl3_indian> Ubuntu
[09:59] <jessy_> somebody know how to change the port that used pureftpd from 21 to 51112 ??
[09:59] <Cliff> its the best os i've ever used
[09:59] <Tomcat_> frank_: Replace breezy with dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:59] <sixslap> see cliff roll around in his own piss
[09:59] <sonasks> serach for port in proftpd.conf
[10:00] <Cliff> why
[10:00] <Tomcat_> frank_: But please don't do it... dangerous, break your system, etc.
[10:00] <Littl3_indian> Pinpoint:installation of Ubuntu i mean
[10:00] <chafe> HEY I SHOULd probably hit Administrator mode in the network interfaces configure.. there isnt an Administrator Mode button on the form??
[10:00] <pinpoint> jessy_, -S xx.xx.xx.xx,port
[10:00] <sixslap> heh sorry i was thinking to myself
[10:00] <chafe> oh there it is.. the tables are broken
[10:00] <poningru> are there any skating games in the repos?
[10:00] <chafe> ive never seen that happen before
[10:00] <Cliff> which version are you using
[10:00] <poningru> I tried searching but there arent any
[10:01] <jessy_> pinpoint, i've tryed yesterday and if i make this, the password of user account are not the same as i configured them
[10:01] <sonasks> man proftpd.conf
[10:01] <chafe> yep all the options are still greyed out
[10:01] <chafe> wooo
[10:01] <pinpoint> pure-ftpd -a 1007 -B -w -E -O clf:/var/log/pureftpd.log -R -U 022:022 -S xx.xx.xx.xx,xx -p 8000:65520
[10:01] <Cliff> try: su root network-admin
[10:01] <jessy_> what is 8000:65520 ?
[10:02] <pinpoint> -p for passive
[10:02] <pinpoint> you can take that out
[10:02] <Cliff> do you have root enabled
[10:02] <jessy_> root under ubuntu ? or sudo ? :s
[10:02] <sonasks> open the admin utility from terminal with sudo
[10:02] <Cliff> i enabled root in ubuntu
[10:02] <pschulz01> Greetings.. I have ubuntu 5.10 running on a MiniMac... I would like to add some details to the wiki about the platform (I can't see any listed).
[10:02] <chafe> you did, Cliff ?
[10:02] <Cliff> for some reason i dont like sudo
[10:03] <pschulz01> Where should I start?
[10:03] <Psykus> if sound suddenly stops working, what do you do to fix it?
[10:03] <FlannelKing> restart your sound daemon
[10:03] <Psykus> i tried restarting alsa
[10:03] <chafe> i havent been ubuntuing long but i dont like it either
[10:03] <pinpoint> minimac?
[10:03] <frank_> anyway to get my built in media reader to work in ubuntu?
[10:03] <CineFX3D_> can I have some sort of Wifi widget in GNOME?
[10:03] <pinpoint> arg
[10:03] <sonasks> megamac
[10:03] <sonasks> bigmac
[10:03] <pschulz01> pinpoint: Mac Mini
[10:03] <chafe> how did you su root Cliff
[10:03] <Cliff> what sudo?
[10:03] <Psykus> how do you do it?
[10:03] <chafe> yeah sudo sucks this isnt working
[10:03] <chafe> laff
[10:03] <sonasks> yeah - pisses me off too
[10:03] <pinpoint> chafe, su root
[10:03] <Cliff> you have to enable root in the GDM config
[10:03] <chafe> su root authentication failure
[10:04] <sonasks> just sudo
[10:04] <chafe> aye
[10:04] <sonasks> not su root
[10:04] <pschulz01> pinpoint: Small desktop BYO peripherals.
[10:04] <pinpoint> su root should work right off the box!!
[10:04] <Cliff> shit up the point is we dont like sudo
[10:04] <jessy_> Essai avec localhost.localdomain:51112
[10:04] <jessy_> Ne peut se connecter  localhost.localdomain: Connexion refuse
[10:04] <GeorgeAScott> i guess i'm the only one that nautilus and ff1.5 doesn't like
[10:04] <chafe> pinpoint no, it shouldnt
[10:04] <chafe> its supposed to not work
[10:04] <sonasks> sudo sucks ass soOOO much
[10:05] <chafe> youre supposed to use sudo so that you dont get confused
[10:05] <Cliff> this guy is way off base
[10:05] <chafe> im pretty confused
[10:05] <Psykus> there's nothing wrong with sudo
[10:05] <pinpoint> sonasks, you can always do "sudo zsh/bash/etc"
[10:05] <Cliff> also set the root password
[10:05] <Cliff> in admin
[10:05] <Psykus> easier than switching around to root all the time, at least to me
[10:05] <Cliff> sudo sucks ass
[10:05] <Psykus> and less risky
[10:05] <FlannelKing> chafe, you probably want to reinstall.  If you're missing that in your hosts file, who knows what else youre missing.
[10:05] <sonasks> burn the sudo !!
[10:05] <sonasks> :D
[10:05] <Cliff> its not convient if you need to do more than 1 thing
[10:06] <chafe> FlannelKing i put it in my hosts file and fixed that,
[10:06] <Cliff> and im in the habit of su so its easier
[10:06] <Psykus> yeah, it remembers that you used sudo, and doesn't ask for your password
[10:06] <chafe> yeah same here
[10:06] <pinpoint> chafe, atleast you got your gethostname() fixed
[10:06] <GeorgeAScott> yeah but sudo has what a 15 minute memory?
[10:06] <GeorgeAScott> is there a way to change the time limit?
[10:06] <chafe> yes, thanks to having to reboot and use REcovery mode
[10:06] <Psykus> 5 extra characters isnt that much
[10:06] <chafe> so i could act like root
[10:06] <RemyLaptop> question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ?
[10:06] <Cliff> i ruined this last week
[10:06] <pinpoint> you say that like its a bad thing
[10:06] <Cliff> it was tragic
[10:06] <Psykus> but, do whatever you want
[10:06] <RemyLaptop> I haven't been able to find anything in the inittab that seemed to be causing it
[10:07] <pinpoint> you didnt getyour root power back?
[10:07] <jaro> Hi there. This doesn't belong here very much but... I have RedBoot environment accessible via serial console. It expects Ctrl+C upon connection. How can I do that?
[10:07] <Cliff> i acidently deleted /etc
[10:07] <chafe> gj
[10:07] <farous> RemyLaptop: try /etc/init.d/gdm restart and see what message you get
[10:07] <Cliff> rm -R
[10:07] <Psykus> Cliff, were you using sudo? :P
[10:07] <Cliff> its a powerful thing
[10:07] <Cliff> no
[10:08] <pinpoint> i smell a reinstall
[10:08] <Cliff> i was in su
[10:08] <chafe> touche
[10:08] <Cliff> reinstall is a small thing
[10:08] <Psykus> yeah, that's exactly what sudo was designed to prevent
[10:08] <Cornu> hello there
[10:08] <Cliff> i had to get my final project of this thing
[10:08] <RemyLaptop> farous,  * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...  * GNOME Display Manager not running
[10:08] <RemyLaptop>                                                           [ ok ] 
[10:08] <RemyLaptop>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                      [fail] 
[10:08] <Cliff> that was an adventure
[10:09] <Cliff> i couldnt ssh or ftp after that because my computer didnt exist after that
[10:09] <brynk> that's a neat trick
[10:09] <farous> RemyLaptop: look at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[10:09] <Cliff> so i used the ubuntu liveCD
[10:10] <RemyLaptop> where would I find this dmesg?
[10:10] <farous> RemyLaptop: did you play with gdm.conf
[10:10] <farous> RemyLaptop: just type dmesg in a terminal
[10:10] <RemyLaptop> not to the best of my knowledge
[10:10] <farous> look at the end of the output
[10:10] <chafe> great. GREAT, great
[10:10] <overrider> what means the abbrevation HTH ?
[10:11] <Psykus> is there anyway to grab firefox 1.5.0.1 or whatever the newest version is without completely upgrading to dapper?
[10:11] <RemyLaptop> farous, what am I looking for?
[10:11] <RemyLaptop> there's a whole bunch of crap in there!
[10:11] <foxpaul> is it possible to send an attachment using the "mail" command line?
[10:11] <farous> Psykus: eithere download the new firefox to a local bin like me or follow ubotu link
[10:11] <foxpaul> it's not a text based attachment, it's a pdf
[10:11] <farous> !tell Psykus bout ff1.5
[10:12] <farous> !tell Psykus bout ff
[10:12] <Psykus> about, perhaps?
[10:12] <farous> !tell Psykus bout firefox
[10:12] <brynk> Psykus just download it?
[10:12] <Psykus> !tell Psykus about ff1.5
[10:12] <chafe> goddAMNIT
[10:12] <brynk> farous, i believe so, but don't know how :)
[10:12] <cafuego> Do not use my name in vain.
[10:12] <cafuego> Thank you.
[10:12] <chafe> sorry cafuego
[10:13] <Psykus> i'd rather have apt-get install it
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> farous, there are some warnings about font renderers at the end of the Xorg log file
[10:13] <RemyLaptop> dunno if that might have something to do with it
[10:13] <farous> RemyLaptop: that is not a prob normally
[10:13] <farous> i forgot the firefox factoid shortcut :(
[10:13] <cyne> i have a question, if i have a amd64 kernel, does all of the software take advantage of that?
[10:14] <farous> !+firefox1.5
[10:14] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:14] <farous> there it is
[10:14] <|Bot|> any here russian ?
[10:15] <liable> !ru
[10:15] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[10:15] <RemyLaptop> is there any way I can revert any files that might be causing the issue to default?
[10:15] <RemyLaptop> (Without having to wipe and reinstall that is)
[10:15] <|Bot|> liable# good )
[10:15] <farous> RemyLaptop: gdm.conf have a factory setting file
[10:15] <farous> but if you did not play with it you do not need to restore it
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> nope, haven't played with it
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> but really not sure why it's going to shell at boot !!!
[10:16] <RemyLaptop> dang nam it
[10:16] <eb_> Just installed breezy on on a machine with a 16M voodoo graphics card.  Only resolution I have available is 640x480.  Tried making sense of xorg.conf man page but no luck.
[10:17] <farous> RemyLaptop: ok go to /var/log/gdm/:0.log might tell you something
[10:17] <chafe> well, the Administrator Mode button doesnt seem to do much for theese grey'd boxes
[10:17] <liable> eb_: try setting the bit depth to 16 or 8, read your xorg.log and see what it says about the other resolutions (prolly not enough memory)
[10:17] <iainm> hey folks. I've been having an issue that I think is with X - at apparently random intervals, the machine stops responding to clicks and keypresses but the mouse pointer continues to move normally. I can still SSH in, and xorg's CPU usage has gone way up to between 45% and 99% or so. Any ideas on debugging this thing?
[10:17] <chafe> now that sudo is working
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> there are a few lines like:
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o":  No symbols found
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> that mean anything ?
[10:18] <farous> RemyLaptop: that is normal
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> hm
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> that's all there is
[10:18] <eb_> liable, I doubt it's a memory issue, I've had 1024x768 with badger.  Depth is set to 16 and xorg.conf has all modes from 1280 down in each of the colour modes.
[10:18] <RemyLaptop> that plus warnings about font renderers
[10:19] <CineFX3D_> anyone knows if there is a widget for gnome that shows status of wifi?
[10:19] <farous> RemyLaptop: gdm did not start maybe because it is already on. did you play with your xorg.conf file?
[10:19] <RemyLaptop> farous, I haven't touched xorg
[10:19] <RemyLaptop> it's strange that one day it was working, the next it wasn't....
[10:19] <RemyLaptop> the only thing I remember changing was intalling the art manager
[10:19] <GeorgeAScott> now that i have things the way i want them... things have gotten very boring around here
[10:19] <liable> eb_: well, you can doubt, and then you can know.. so check the log..
[10:20] <GeorgeAScott> other than naut and ff that is
[10:20] <RemyLaptop> I can start gnome find by typing 'startx' once it's booted
[10:20] <iainm> also, presumably unrelated issue, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work (although chvt does, and ctrl+alt+f1 and friends work when in terminals that don't have X in them). If I do ctrl+alt+f1 while a terminal has focus, it prints P if nothing running in terminal or ^[O7P otherwise.
[10:20] <RemyLaptop> but it won't boot into gnome...
[10:20] <Psykus> yay, I followed the firefox 1.5 guide, and i'm getting an error when starting firefox
[10:20] <farous> RemyLaptop: i have no idea
[10:20] <RemyLaptop> :-(
[10:20] <Psykus> david@ubuntu:~$ firefox
[10:20] <Psykus> /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:21] <Psykus> oh, nm, forgot to grab that package
[10:21] <Psykus> guess i didn't follow the guide too well :P
[10:21] <eb_> hsynch out of range, guess the automagic didn't work with my monitor.
[10:22] <Psykus> ugh, and now i'm without a browser, can anyone tell me what it says at the top of the page here, for installing that package? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:22] <RemyLaptop> question: my ubuntu doesn't start up into the X system anymore, just to a shell prompt. anyone got any ideas why ? It was working fine one day, then next time I turned the comp on, it booted to shell.
[10:22] <farous> Psykus: type mozilla-firefox and you will still have a browser
[10:23] <liable> RemyLaptop: check the log
[10:23] <RemyLaptop> !log
[10:23] <ubotu> RemyLaptop: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:23] <RemyLaptop> liable, how would I do that ?
[10:23] <Psykus> david@ubuntu:~$ mozilla-firefox
[10:23] <Psykus> run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute /opt/firefox/mozilla-firefox-bin.
[10:23] <farous> RemyLaptop: he means your pc logs located at /var/log the one i told you about
[10:23] <NoobieAtLinux> ahk
[10:23] <liable> RemyLaptop: sudo grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:24] <NoobieAtLinux> no EE's shown
[10:24] <liable> none at all?
[10:24] <NoobieAtLinux>         (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[10:24] <NoobieAtLinux> (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[10:24] <NoobieAtLinux> that was what that grep returned
[10:24] <liable> what does startx do?
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> it works
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> I'm in gnome atm
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> it loads it all ok
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> (as far as I can tell anyway)
[10:25] <liable> right, so try downgrading gdm, or better yet, check bug
[10:25] <liable> tracking
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> ?
[10:25] <liable> !bts
[10:25] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> !bts
[10:25] <liable> !stupid bot
[10:25] <ubotu> stupid liable
[10:25] <NoobieAtLinux> rofl
[10:25] <liable> !bugs
[10:26] <farous> :)
[10:26] <NoobieAtLinux> liable, I wouldn't have a clue how to carry out either of your suggestions.
[10:26] <NoobieAtLinux> :D
[10:26] <liable> meh, there used to be a bts facvtoid
[10:26] <liable> bugzilla..
[10:26] <NoobieAtLinux> how do I check bug tracking ?
[10:27] <liable> a jeez, google ubuntu bug tracking and find a url
[10:27] <NoobieAtLinux> k
[10:27] <NoobieAtLinux> liable, malone is what the new bug tracking system is called
[10:27] <NoobieAtLinux> !malone
[10:28] <liable> really?
[10:28] <liable> !listkeys bugs
[10:28] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'bugs' by key returned no results.
[10:28] <NoobieAtLinux> apparently
[10:28] <CineFX3D_> anyone knows if there is a widget for gnome that shows status of wifi?
[10:28] <NoobieAtLinux> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118222
[10:28] <pinpoint> right top conner
[10:28] <pinpoint> if you have connection
[10:29] <farous> CineFX3D_: what do you mean by that. the network status applet does that automatically
[10:29] <jo_e> what program do i run to configure my X server?
[10:29] <CineFX3D_> I have wifi going on now.. but I can't ses status of it in gnome
[10:29] <farous> CineFX3D_: right click on the top panel and add netowrk monitor
[10:29] <liable> !drxx jo_e
[10:29] <ubotu> liable: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:29] <liable> bah
[10:30] <CineFX3D_> I have network connection in top right corner saying eth0 is disconencted...
[10:30] <CineFX3D_> obviously
[10:30] <jiangguowei> what do 'ubuntero' and 'karma' on launchpad.net mean?
[10:30] <liable> jo_e: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> CineFX3D_: Then make sure the network monitor is showing the wifi connection, not the ethernet card or lo.
[10:30] <jo_e> liable, thanks
[10:30] <farous> CineFX3D_: click on it then select your wirless device obviously :)
[10:30] <CineFX3D_> :)
[10:31] <CineFX3D_> idiot :>
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> jiangguowei: ubuntero means you have digitally signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct (requires generation and registration of a key), karma is gained by various forms of participation on that site.
[10:32] <munti78> can i use ssh in terminal to transfer files from server to my local machine?
[10:32] <NoobieAtLinux> liable - how would i downgrade gdm ?
[10:33] <farous> munti78: scp is your command
[10:33] <Psykus> is there anyway to stop mounted devices/drives from appearing on the desktop?
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> munti78: Yeah, in the session, scp.
[10:33] <jiangguowei> tonyyarusso:thanks
[10:33] <farous> Psykus: application>system> what was the name of the editor
[10:34] <farous> configuration editor
[10:34] <bimberi> Psykus: Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor, /appl/nautilus/desktop, volumes_visible
[10:34] <farous> Psykus: then select nautilus and look at it there is an option there
[10:34] <bimberi> *apps
[10:34] <liable> NoobieAtLinux: did you check the bug tracker? there is prolly a way to fix it mentioned. if not, then you will need to use dpkg to install it from your cache if you havent deleted it.
[10:35] <Psykus> bimberi, that did it, thanks
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> bimberi, farous: Any chance that sort of thing will become easier to find / more intuitive for new users in the future?
[10:35] <farous> bimberi: thanks am not operating from gnome now :) haven't been for quite a while
[10:35] <NoobieAtLinux> am searching malone atm
[10:35] <CineFX3D_> it would be great if there was gmail notofier for gnome
[10:36] <farous> tonyyarusso: i have no idea am just a user
[10:36] <farous> CineFX3D_: there is
[10:36] <CineFX3D_> farous: but where?
[10:36] <farous> CineFX3D_: though i prefer gnubiff. much more than gmail notifier
[10:36] <CineFX3D_> farous: Why?
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> farous: 'k.
[10:37] <farous> CineFX3D_: because i set it to check gmail and my other emails
[10:37] <CineFX3D_> ah I see.. but I have forwarded all my account to gmail anyways :)
[10:37] <farous> !find gmail
[10:37] <farous> !+gmail-notify
[10:37] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, farous
[10:38] <farous> !+find gmail-notify
[10:38] <ubotu> gmail-notify: (gmail new mail notifier), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 1.6.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[10:38] <farous> ^   ^ CineFX3D_
[10:38] <NoobieAtLinux> !dpkg
[10:38] <CineFX3D_> hm weird, cause download page on gmail says only windows and mac
[10:38] <CineFX3D_> or this is not from google then?
[10:38] <bimberi> Psykus, farous: np :)
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> CineFX3D_: Seems to be on Sourceforge.
[10:39] <dibblego> where does a CD get mounted to?
[10:39] <bimberi> tonyyarusso: not that i know of :)
[10:39] <farous> dibblego: normally /media
[10:40] <Psykus> dibblego, /media/cdrom#
[10:40] <pinpoint> bah!
[10:40] <dibblego> ah there it is, thanks
[10:40] <Psykus> by that I mean, either cdrom, cdrom1, etc etc
[10:40] <dibblego> when I try to read of my CD, I get cp: cannot open `repositories.zip' for reading: Permission denied
[10:40] <dibblego> why come?
[10:40] <graeme> is there anyway to limit the bandwidth of apt-get
[10:40] <graeme> ?
[10:41] <farous> graeme: what do you mean. Do you mean fewer repos
[10:41] <CineFX3D_> too ba dit has no transparency like the original one :(
[10:41] <graeme> farous: no, like keep the bandwidth that it uses to 3KB/s
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> CineFX3D_: Give it a few months and see if it gets added.
[10:42] <Hmmmm> folks i have a S3 ProSavage8 KM266 vga card, can i get XGL going?
[10:42] <kma> Anyone got experience getting hardware accelerated 3d using a non ATI/nVidia card? The card in question is a Intel GMA 900.. is it even possible?
[10:42] <graeme> farous: so it doesnt kill all the bandwidth at work, and get me in trouble :-)
[10:42] <munti78> farous: I'll look into that, thanks
[10:42] <farous> graeme: sorry do not know
[10:43] <graeme> farous: np, thanks tho
[10:43] <kelmo_lap> graeme, ever used apt-zip before?
[10:43] <farous> graeme: though i think anything is possible if you config iptabs correctly but that is a hell of a job
[10:43] <CineFX3D_> tonyyarusso: Like I have a choice :)
[10:44] <farous> CineFX3D_: try installing gunubiff and setting it up. you will most prob like it
[10:44] <Psykus> have there been any attempts to create an OSX like "dock" for gnome?
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> So I saw a story on the BBC's site today about cracking Enigma messages, and I followed up on the links to look into the project, and the software author's page said it ran at lowest priority blah blah and so wouldn't disturb the system.  So I thought, heck, let's check it out.  Installed, ran, ten minutes later my memory was completely maxed out and my system was unusable for about half an hour while I tried slowly switching to a 
[10:45] <CineFX3D_> farous: is it in repositories?
[10:45] <farous> CineFX3D_: yap
[10:46] <CineFX3D_> farous: I'll try it then :) I can't expect transparency though, right? :>
[10:46] <liable> NoobieAtLinux: dpkg -i is what you want (man dpkg)
[10:46] <Merit> hi all
[10:47] <dibblego> tonyyarusso, crypto geeks can't write software for shit
[10:48] <xophEr> just out of interest, what is dapper+1 going to be named? :)
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> dibblego: Well I guess that's one answer!  Apparently it works okay for someone out there though, because they did crack the first of the three messages (hence the headline), so why not for me?
[10:49] <Ng> Psykus: I believe there are such things in gdesklets
[10:49] <jordo23> Does anyone know what OpenOffice is built in (which toolkit i.e. jsdk, Qt, Gtk+, etc)?
[10:49] <dibblego> tonyyarusso, a classic case of "works on my machine", said the incompetent developer
[10:49] <cubikdice> Gtk isnt it?
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> dibblego: Right.
[10:49] <jordo23> is that true?
[10:49] <Ng> I think Openoffice might be written with its own graphical toolkit that tries to blend into the native one
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: I would be tempted to say gtk, but I'm not going to pretend to be sure about that...
[10:51] <Psykus> ooh, interesting
[10:51] <jordo23> I was just asking because I was reading a lot of flame wars on Gnome vs. KDE, and if OpenOffice was built in GTK+ then Gnome is a clear leader in the workplace.
[10:51] <bimberi> xophEr: no idea, believe it will use 'E' as it's going alphabetical - some suggestions are being collected here: http://wiki.kaarsemaker.net/UbuntuNames
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: If I am actually right, it would be from seeing it somewhere on their site, so check there, and if you find it, then there's your answer, and if not, I'm nutty, sleep-deprived, and just plain wrong.
[10:51] <Ng> jordo23: flame wars are best avoided
[10:51] <mdeboer> jordo23: don't read those flame wars. waste of time
[10:51] <Ng> jordo23: gnome and kde are different. end of discussion :)
[10:51] <jordo23> I like reading them.
[10:52] <jordo23> I like the debate in it all.
[10:52] <cubikdice> gnome = better thank KDE
[10:52] <cubikdice> ;)
[10:52] <farous> jordo23: i am not sure you can check it on openoffice website but would say most probab qt for this is its default style outside of gnome on every window manager i tried
[10:52] <cubikdice> end of discussion
[10:52] <cubikdice> lol
[10:52] <jordo23> Ng: Not end of discussion when having to have Windows users adopt it in the workplace.
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: There is a point there.
[10:53] <Ng> jordo23: a flame war isn't going to help you with that and openoffice runs fine in either, so there really is no discussion to be had - pick the one that works/feels/looks best for you and your users
[10:53] <jordo23> Which would you deploy on a domain workstation?
[10:54] <Ng> personally I would deploy gnome, but gnome is my personal preference of the two. if I was a KDE fan I would presumably deploy KDE
[10:54] <farous> jordo23: users should have a choice they should try then choose what they prefer. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[10:54] <phrizer> openoffice uses something like 'gsl' or something.
[10:54] <jordo23> Ng: I lean towards KDE, and I appreciate the ability to have a choice in the matter, and I think it should always be that way, but there's an obvious contridiction in the corporate world.
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> jordo23: I say, walk in with a computer like mine is currently (mainly for curiosity and demonstration purposes) loaded with Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Enlightement, Fluxbox, Openbox, WindowMaker, etc., show them each and have people play around for a few days, and have them tell you what they like.  Or just give everyone everything and have them decide what they want on a whim each morning.  That's the beauty of choice, right?
[10:55] <jordo23> Ng: And....linux users need to remember who the real enemy is..........<coughMicrosoft>
[10:55] <Ng> jordo23: indeed, having two desktops deployed in an organisation could get quite confusing and irritating. perhaps you could involve some users and have them play with both and see if a concensus emerges as to which they prefer
[10:55] <Ng> jordo23: microsoft isn't the enemy, they're just another software maker. Not all of us are driven by a bitter desire to see them penniless and hungry ;)
[10:55] <jordo23> Ng: It's difficult to get backing from upper management.
[10:56] <jordo23> Ng: I don't want Microsoft to be pennyless.  On the contrary.  I just want the market as even as possible.
[10:56] <ara> why is there no UI for printer sharing
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Not necessarily penniless and hungry.  Only if they continue operating under illegal business practices, conflicts of interest, and poor programming practice.  I don't mind their existence as a concept, I'll just fight them until they change.
[10:57] <ara> kubuntu has it iirc, but not ubuntu
[10:58] <Ng> tonyyarusso: I'd rather we beat them with better software than whinging ;)
[10:58] <cyne> i've tried kubuntu now i'm going to ubuntu
[10:58] <jordo23> If the market in the business world was even, then 90% of developers and universities wouldn't endorse Microsoft products ultimately creating a reliance on them.
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Well of course.  My main tactic has been telling people about the better software, since I've found the vast majority of people aren't even aware of it's existence.  You should have seen the look on my roommates face when I showed him Firefox, Thunderbird, Gaim, and OpenOffice, and then told him it was all free, and then that it would run on Windows too if he wanted to check it out!
[11:00] <djp> asked something similar yesterday, but am hoping for a difinitive answer, if possible. can anyone recommend a webcam that will work with breezy, 'out of the box' so to speak? i'm in the uk.
[11:00] <Psykus> i really don't care what OS or GUI anyone else is running...I just know what I prefer, and I don't try to convert anyone or argue about it
[11:00] <jordo23> Personally, besides the integration of OpenOffice and a groupware suite like Outlook, there really is no reason to purchase Office licensing.
[11:01] <jordo23> If they made OpenOffice integrate with Evolution or something, and had stronger integration with Exchange servers, then Linux could be more easily deployed in the workplace.
[11:01] <felixfoertsch> Hello there - and good morning!
[11:01] <Psykus> Ng, I installed the desklets app, and I now have the "candybar" applet stuck on my cursor >_<
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> Psykus: Well, see, I end up being the one people go to saying "My computer's broken", when the fact of the matter is their software is, so it's personally annoying for me to have people using Microsoft products around me, and a good opportunity to mention/recommend alternatives.
[11:02] <Ng> Psykus: erk, does clicking on the desktop not "drop" it there?
[11:02] <felixfoertsch> Is there anyone who could help me installing an Audigy 2?
[11:02] <Psykus> i think that if you set them up with linux, then it could definitely work
[11:02] <Ng> Psykus: as a worst case scenario you could hit ctrl-alt-f1, log in and kill the gdesklets process
[11:02] <Psykus> i clicked to move the applet, heh
[11:02] <farous> Psykus: click and it will drop it where you want
[11:03] <farous> give it time
[11:03] <Ng> Psykus: if you don't mind missing out on the animation side of things you could just make a non-expanding gnome panel, set it quite large and put a load of launchers on it
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> Psykus: The big thing seems to be getting started.  Nobody wants to change, just from pure inertia, but plopped in front of desktop Linux or open-source apps, they do just fine.
[11:03] <Psykus> i think the problem is, the candybar applet is also a window list
[11:03] <Psykus> so when I click, I just minimize/restore xchat
[11:04] <Psykus> the process is called gdesklets?
[11:04] <Psykus> haha, I have a candybar stuck to my mouse
[11:05] <farous> Psykus: you can open a terminal type gdesklets stop. but normally just move the mouse and click to drop it
[11:06] <Psykus> right, when I click, it just clicks on xchat in the applet
[11:06] <djp> any webcam users here, based in the uk?
[11:07] <Psykus> whew, I got the candybar off :P
[11:07] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, I have to setup 14 computers in the same way, I know there is closed source software to clone a HD, and compy it on to other PCs but is there a GPL version that I could use! This is for my office call center
[11:07] <holy_cow> londonboi2k3, its easy
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> dd
[11:07] <holy_cow> no not dd that takes too long
[11:08] <holy_cow> only dd the first 100 sectors of the drive to capture grub
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> londonboi2k3: dd will copy an entire drive, dpkg's set selections lets you just install the same set of software packages.
[11:08] <holy_cow> then use partimage to restore the backed up copy of the partition
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> londonboi2k3: Also, rsync can be handy.
[11:08] <GeorgeAScott> so i've got 2000 WMA files to convert... anything more stable than sound converter? it's crashed thrice on me
[11:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> try mplayer?
[11:08] <holy_cow> lastly use any tool to reset the remaining linux swap partition to linux swap
[11:08] <Ng> GeorgeAScott: you might well be able to use something like mencoder/ffmpeg
[11:09] <pinpoint> WMA?
[11:09] <holy_cow> btw. you can use partimage to take an image of an entire 2 gig partition in about 2 minutes or less
[11:09] <londonboi2k3> hmm thanks guys, I think the idea is that we have a copy of the entire HD, which is 4GBs so that we can restore the entire HD without having to download the packages
[11:09] <holy_cow> imaging full ubuntu installs can take about 3 minutes per drive
[11:09] <GeorgeAScott> pinpoint: i started my collection quite awhile back...
[11:09] <holy_cow> with that technique
[11:09] <holy_cow> if you try to dd the entire hard drive, it will take 20 minutes to hours per drive, depending on size
[11:09] <londonboi2k3> holy_cow partimage might sound usfull
[11:09] <mdeboer> yes, mencoder can do that
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> londonboi2k3: Um, you need 13 backups?
[11:10] <holy_cow> forget the word usefull, trust me, anyone that says dd a partition has never dd'd more than a few hundred megs
[11:10] <mdeboer> with some simple shell script
[11:10] <holy_cow> you can't dd 80 gig hd's and remain sane
[11:10] <londonboi2k3> not 13 backups, I am setuping up 1 pc and i want it cloned to the other 13
[11:10] <holy_cow> thats what i told you
[11:10] <holy_cow> take it or leave it
[11:10] <holy_cow> i clone entire drives with the technique in 3 minutes per drive
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow: Okay, so what does partimage do that allows it to be so fast, but still have information?
[11:11] <pinpoint> holy_cow, how many boxes you got?
[11:11] <holy_cow> 200
[11:11] <pinpoint> holy cow!
[11:11] <pinpoint> lol
[11:11] <liable> !moo
[11:11] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, liable
[11:11] <txwikinger2> londonboi2k3: if you pout the 2 hds on the different ide-bus and switch dma on, you can copy a 40G HD within 1h
[11:11] <txwikinger2> with dd
[11:11] <mjr> tonyyarusso, apparently it has some FS knowledge and copies only used blocks (this from the deb description)
[11:12] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, well i don't frankly know, its clearly not reading every bit like dd, as its fricking fast, but then again its  not doing reads like a standard os calls because its so fricking fast
[11:12] <holy_cow> my average / partition install is 2 gigs
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> mjr: Okay, that sounds like it could help, but I still don't see how it can make such a drastic difference.
[11:12] <holy_cow> it takes 2 to 3 minutes to grab the data to an image, 2 to 3 minutes to put it back to another partition
[11:12] <mjr> tonyyarusso, well, I could see how it would, especially the writing of the image
[11:12] <elaverick> Hi, I think my XWindow config is wrong.  Nothing will display, how can I avoid booting into X so I can fix it from the shell?
[11:12] <pinpoint> what are requirements atleast for ubuntu?
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow: Hrm, all right.  I guess we just accept that there's magic involved!
[11:12] <londonboi2k3> holy_cow, will try partimage as you suggested, looked at the home page and that is what I need, thanks
[11:12] <pinpoint> can it run on pentium 2 500mhz+
[11:13] <holy_cow> note: you must dd the first 100 sectors to grab both the bootsector and grub as grub installs it self right in the first sector after bootsector
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> pinpoint: Yes.
[11:13] <pinpoint> without lag?
[11:13] <pinpoint> and see a printer
[11:13] <Cornu> elaverick: You should have a safe mode in the grub list, don't you ?
[11:13] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, no we don't what you are going to accept is that i don't care what it does, it clearly uses a technique i didn't bother researching, but i have repeatedly use it successfully
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> pinpoint: Although you might want to consider not using Gnome/KDE, but something lighter like XFCE or Fluxbox instead.
[11:13] <holy_cow> londonboi2k3, good luck
[11:14] <elaverick> Cornu: there are recovery modes, is that what you mean?
[11:14] <liable> elaverick: you can get a term by pressing alt+ctl+F1 then you can stop x if you want, with, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:14] <londonboi2k3> thannks
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow: Well, something like that anyway, yeah.
[11:14] <Cornu> elaverick: Aye, it should boot your system w/out launching X server
[11:14] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, :)
[11:14] <elaverick> liable: That got it thanks :)
[11:14] <elaverick> Cornu: Thats good to know for the future too, thank you.
[11:14] <Cornu> sure
[11:15] <Psykus> hm, the candybar desklet is neat, but I wish you could make it larger
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> pinpoint: I've even heard of the occasional person running on a P1; P2's are reportedly just fine with a lighter desktop.
[11:15] <CineFX3D_> can't this ugly totem be skinned? it's really damn ugly like the way it is.. I can't allow it to play mp3's that ugly, can't I?
[11:15] <pinpoint> LOL
[11:15] <pinpoint> use xxms
[11:15] <pinpoint> xmms*
[11:16] <pinpoint> or xine
[11:16] <sKeLa^> amarok =D ?
[11:16] <CineFX3D_> xmms.. the little ugly one? :)
[11:16] <pinpoint> its like winamp in windows
[11:16] <pinpoint> you can get skins for it
[11:16] <elaverick> Oh and one last thing I'll annoy you all with, where does X keep its config file?
[11:16] <djp> any webcam users here?
[11:17] <Cornu> elaverick: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> elaverick: Thinking you're looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:17] <farous> elaverick: /etc/X11/xorg.conf do not edit unluess you know what you are doing
[11:17] <sKeLa^> well..i can't install the driver for my creative Live! Pro .. i think there's  no way for it :'(
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> elaverick: Or at least back it up first, so you're only a little bit screwed.
[11:18] <SeerKan> how can i set a program to autorun when the server starts ?
[11:18] <elaverick> tonyyarusso:  Good advice :)
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> Uh oh, now we're all going to die, it's here...
[11:20] <pschulz01> SeerKan: put a script in the /etc/init.d directory and link to it from /etc/rc.2
[11:20] <pschulz01> or rc.3
[11:20] <liable> tonyyarusso: i.a.m?
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> liable: To be quite honest, I have no idea what that abbreviation's supposed to be, but if you're trying to ask, I was referring to the nick that just joined before that.
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> Hi Bird-Flu, btw.
[11:21] <liable> yes,
[11:22] <liable> think about it :)
[11:22] <Bird-Flu> Hi
[11:22] <CineFX3D_> how can I make click open pdf in acrobat instead of evince by default?
[11:23] <farous> CineFX3D_: right click
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> liable: I've been up working on a psych report; thinking about much of anything is not likely.
[11:23] <farous> then set it in properties open with
[11:23] <liable> acronym..
[11:23] <SeerKan> pschulz01 in /etc/ i only have rc2.d
[11:23] <SeerKan> and how do i link it ?
[11:24] <CineFX3D_> ha, excellent, thanks :)
[11:24] <farous> :)
[11:24] <monkey> monkeyboy_99
[11:24] <foxpaul> does anyone know if it's possible to place mail directly into a users' imap store? (sorry if anyone replied already - i got disconnected)
[11:24] <twb> Suddenly whenever I open a new shell, I get the followin message:
[11:24] <twb> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[11:24] <twb> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[11:24] <twb> any idea what's going on?
[11:25] <liable> twb: you saved a shell session after using sudo? (if you understand what i mean)
[11:25] <twb> Ah, I see there is now extra shit in /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:26] <twb> An apparently I source that file THREE TIMES.
[11:26] <pinpoint> lol
[11:26] <im_a_muslim> As Salaam e laikum (mean: Peace b upon u). ........ http://www.submission.org/ .......... Your source for Islam (submission) on the internet.
[11:26] <im_a_muslim> [112:0]  In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
[11:26] <im_a_muslim> [112:1]  Proclaim, "He is the One and only GOD.
[11:26] <im_a_muslim> [112:2]  "The Absolute GOD.
[11:26] <im_a_muslim> [112:3]  "Never did He beget. Nor was He begotten.
[11:26] <im_a_muslim> [112:4]  "None equals Him."
[11:26] <twb> Gods, how fucking annoying.  Who is resposible?!
[11:26] <liable> !ops
[11:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[11:26] <im_a_muslim> Salaam
[11:27] <pinpoint> im watching him
[11:27] <twb> It's in the bash 3.1 package.
[11:27] <liable> he was banned a while back from a few channels
[11:27] <nubbe> How do I make mplayer not close at the end of a clip by default?
[11:27] <twb> nubbe: close what?
[11:28] <nubbe> twb, the app, mplayer
[11:29] <nubbe> twb, anything to put in .mplayer/config perhaps?
[11:29] <twa1296> how can i resize my ntfs partition and use the freed space for fat32?
[11:29] <twb> nubbe: what part of mplayer would you like to stay open?  There's just a window with the clip in it.
[11:29] <twb> nubbe: you want it to freeze on the last frame?
[11:29] <twb> twa1296: with extreme difficulty.
[11:30] <nubbe> twb, would prolly do the trick
[11:30] <twb> twa1296: don't try to resize it unless it's non-critical data.
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> twa1296: The tool you want is ntfsresize, contained in the package ntfsprogs.
[11:30] <twb> nubbe: why do you want that?
[11:30] <CineFX3D_> hm synaptic says I have two broken pkgs and I should use broken filter to look at them.. where is that?
[11:30] <twb> CineFX3D_: aptitude show ~b
[11:30] <twa1296> tonyyarusso, could i also do it in xp using partitionmagic?
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> twa1296: You'll probably want to run the Windows defragmenting tool first.
[11:31] <CineFX3D_> twb: and synaptic? :)
[11:31] <nubbe> twb, why would I want to click the link in FF if I want to check the clip again?
[11:31] <twa1296> tonyyarusso, ok
[11:31] <nubbe> twb, or maybe I want it to behave the way I want it to behave
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> twa1296: Well, you could... but be warned that the two or three times I've used PM it messed up the partition table such that it was no longer able to read it afterwards, and all of the times I've used ntfsresize it's been just fine.
[11:31] <nubbe> twb, not an uncommon reason, right??  ;)
[11:32] <twb> CineFX3D_: nfi
[11:32] <twb> nubbe: oh, you are using it with a dinky embedded thing?
[11:32] <twa1296> twb, tonyyarusso, thanks, would you advise me to set up my box from scratch? with an ntfs, ext3 and fat32?
[11:32] <nubbe> twb, no I'm not
[11:32] <jessy_> is there somebody who can help me 2 min ?
[11:32] <ssdo> how is the ubuntu live working with nvidia grafix card?
[11:32] <twb> nubbe: hmm.  Maybe you *want* the embedded thing.
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> twa1296: Wait, what do you mean from scratch?  What do you have now, and what's your goal?
[11:33] <ssdo> I am running ubuntu live in a dell laptop with nvidia, the display went borked after 5 minutes
[11:33] <nubbe> twb, and I'm not using gmplayer and I REALLY don't want the embedded crap
[11:33] <twb> OK, WHO THE *FUCK* IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE bash 3.1 PACKAGE?
[11:33] <twb> It is totally broken.
[11:34] <twa1296> tonyyarusso: i have a dual-boot ntfs and ext3 and i want a partition that can be read and written by xp and linux
[11:34] <twb>  /etc/profile sources /etc/bash.bashrc!
[11:34] <jessy_> thanks i've found a person :)
[11:34] <twb> It adds /usr/local/sbin for non-root users!
[11:34] <dibblego> what do I need to do so I can open my CD-ROM drive?
[11:34] <twb> GRAAAH!
[11:34] <snowblink> twb, that's probably so that sudo works
[11:34] <oLuKeLeBeK> how can i crack a plesk 7.0.2 :P
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> twa1296: Okay.  So from scratch would mean erasing all of your data and reinstalling both OSs.  A bit of overkill.
[11:35] <twa1296> tonyyarusso, ok, thanks for your input, i'll try to ntfsresize and should it not work i'll go for the overkill
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> twa1296: Just run ntfsresize from within Ubuntu to free up the space, then use something like Gparted to create the Fat32, and you'll be all set.
[11:36] <twa1296> tonyyarusso, understood, thanks
[11:36] <twb> twa1296: backup first!  ntfs under linux is flaky as hell.
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> twa1296: You'll want to know exactly how much free space you can take out of the ntfs partition.
[11:36] <CineFX3D_> where the hell is anjuta - where did the automatix put it?
[11:36] <snowblink> twb, I think you'll find downgrading won't help
[11:36] <twa1296> tbw, tonyyarusso, ok, thanks guys
[11:36] <Familie> hi
[11:36] <twb> snowblink: because it's a conf file?
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> twa1296: Overshooting and trying to resize below what it's actually using would of course be a problem, but other than that you should be fine.  Good luck.
[11:36] <farous> CineFX3D_: type locate anjuta
[11:37] <farous> or just type anjuta in a terminal
[11:37] <xophEr> When I dist-upgrade; what do I need to backup?
[11:37] <snowblink> twb, no. Because it's default on Ubuntu to include /usr/local/sbin in the path
[11:37] <CineFX3D_> I did, found one image of anjuta and anjuta.desktop.. I guess installation went bad
[11:37] <twb> snowblink: I was more grumbling about sourcing bash.bashrc and the sudo crap getting printed thrice.
[11:37] <Familie> i would like to get access to my internet conncection over Windows XP, but it only works if I reinstall ubuntu and let the network be autodetected
[11:38] <snowblink> twb, I think it does the same on 3.0.0 on Hoary
[11:38] <brynk> ok, that doesn't make any sense
[11:38] <brynk> :)
[11:39] <Familie> Can I somehow start the network autodetection program after the installation is done?
[11:39] <twb> snowblink: I'm just installing 3.1 from amd64.debian.net :-)
[11:39] <felixfoertsch> Is there anyone who could help me installing an Audigy 2?
[11:41] <visik7> anyone got success backporting gcj-4.1 from dapper to breezy ?
[11:41] <Familie> can anyone help me?
[11:41] <visik7> fakeroot debian/rules binary doesn't work and return this error http://pastebin.com/581670
[11:43] <visik7> who is the gcj mantainer ?
[11:44] <pinpoint> ubuntu breezy just came out
[11:44] <pinpoint> already a new one in 1month
[11:44] <pinpoint> bah!
[11:44] <kemik> every 6 months
[11:44] <pinpoint> whats in it?
[11:45] <kemik> Join #ubuntu+1 for Dapper discussion
[11:45] <kemik> or google it
[11:45] <ompaul> pinpoint, has a year and a halfs support, so there is a year left in it, the next one should last longer
[11:46] <djp> anyone using a webcam under breezy here?
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> ompaul, pinpoint: Dapper is supported 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server.
[11:47] <pinpoint> free support?
[11:47] <ompaul> that is the idea
[11:47] <pia_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9669 <-- how can I remove the mozilla-imagezoom package from the apt-get system ?
[11:47] <ompaul> pinpoint, it is free up to the point that you call me then the clock starts ticking, and the bills mount
[11:47] <pinpoint> heh
[11:48] <pinpoint> got a question
[11:48] <pinpoint> whats a wiki exactly?
[11:48] <farous> pinpoint: just understand that the support is for security updates only. Packages are freezed unless you use a backport
[11:48] <pinpoint> i read but it still didnt stick to my brains
[11:48] <ompaul> pinpoint, go to ##anything and I'll answer you
[11:48] <visik7> pinpoint: a collaborative documentation site
[11:49] <ompaul> or #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:49] <Protocol1> cool, I moved into my new house and it rules
[11:49] <foampeace> hi
[11:49] <foampeace> does anyone know how to chdir when the folder name has spaces?
[11:50] <pinpoint> tab completion?
[11:50] <farous> foampeace: put it between commas "  "
[11:50] <pia_> cd my\ documents
[11:50] <pinpoint> " "
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> foampeace: cd folder\ with\ spaces
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> farous: Commas?
[11:50] <foampeace> YES i just tried that just " and first letter then tab worked
[11:50] <farous> inverted commas
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> farous: Quotation marks, you mean?
[11:50] <farous> am too sleepy qutoqtion marks sorry
[11:51] <farous> need to sleeep take care all
[11:51] <foampeace> only need 1 set of "
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> farous: Totally understandable.  I wish I could do the same.  Darn psych...
[11:51] <farous> :)
[11:51] <foampeace> then  tab
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> foampeace: Tab completion rocks my world.
[11:51] <foampeace> tonyyarusso: yes
[11:52] <foampeace> what else
[11:52] <foampeace> fresh beats?
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> foampeace: Nah, maybe potatoes.
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> Anyway, I really need to get back to work, since the sun will be coming up soon.
[11:53] <foampeace> i need to get coffee
[11:53] <Kanalal> can someone tell me what the Gdk errors when starting firefox 1.5 are all about?
[11:53] <foampeace> cause me last one said sorry try again arrr
[11:54] <liable> arr
[11:54] <Spee_Der> I trashed my kernel on /dev/hdc1
[11:55] <Ng> avast ye salty seadogs, pirate talk be best sent to the murky depths of #ubuntu-offtopic, lest ye bring upon theeself the wrath of a landlubber op ;)
[11:55] <Spee_Der> Everything is till on the drive, but I need to finger out how to re-load the kernel ?
[11:55] <pinpoint> finger?
[11:55] <tonyyarusso_work> Ng: Very nice.
[11:55] <Philip> hello, new to ubuntu (debian). How do I keep up to date with security updates. Redhat used to have yum and a web site that showed which servers needed to be updated based upon installed packages. I know about apt-get, but can you schedule something that keeps the server secure?
[11:55] <Spee_Der> finger. yeh you know, type something.....
[11:55] <Ng> tonyyarusso_work: I take my pirate talk very seriously! ;)
[11:56] <tonyyarusso_work> Ng: Hey, my friends participate in "Talk like a pirate day", so...
[11:56] <Spee_Der> I was using kernel 2.6.15-15-386
[11:56] <Spee_Der> But I trashed it somehow.....
[11:56] <Ng> tonyyarusso_work: september 19th :)
[11:57] <Spee_Der> Now I can't boot from /dev/hdc1 but everything is still there.....
[11:57] <tonyyarusso_work> Ng: Yep.
[11:57] <hermes> hi
[11:57] <Afief> Is there a way to add a certain program to a live CD before burning it?
[11:58] <Ng> Philip: check "ps auwx | grep update" to see if you have an "update-notifier" process running -if you do and you run a gnome desktop it should place a little red icon in the notification tray when updates are available
[11:58] <ompaul> Afief, you need to build the live CD again, there is no "easy click here" way that I know of
[11:58] <tonyyarusso_work> Afief: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[11:58] <Philip> Ng, thank you. will do. that sets me in right direction
[11:58] <Spee_Der> As of now, I am running off the live cd
[11:59] <Spee_Der> How to re-load the kernel on /dev/hdc1 ?
[11:59] <ompaul> tonyyarusso_work, your on the ball this morning :) I could not remember it off hand I was going to have to look
[11:59] <Afief> ompaul: if it's "not easy" as in command line, config file editing and some basic compiling, i'm up to it(and ready to learn the harder stuff!)
[12:00] <ompaul> Afief, see the link tony gave it is rather complete
[12:00] <tonyyarusso_work> ompaul: '/msg ubotu lisvals live' is my friend.
[12:00] <ompaul> tonyyarusso_work, that would work
[12:01] <tonyyarusso_work> s/lisvals/listvals/
[12:01] <ompaul> aye
[12:01] <tonyyarusso_work> Okay, 6:00AM, I'm going to be productive for real now!
[12:02] <zax1> hello
[12:02] <zax1> wonder if any one can help with configuring a linux unit on a windows network
[12:04] <pinpoint> thanks ompaul
[12:04] <ompaul> np
[12:07] <michael_> wo ist der deusche
[12:07] <michael_> sever
[12:07] <ompaul> !de
[12:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:07] <Spliffster> hi, i have problems compiling xulrunner from source. configure tells me: "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables."
[12:07] <michael_> kk
[12:07] <Spliffster> spliffy@schleppi:~$ which cc gcc g++
[12:07] <Spliffster> /usr/bin/cc
[12:07] <Spliffster> /usr/bin/gcc
[12:07] <Spliffster> /usr/bin/g++
[12:07] <Spliffster> oop, sry
[12:08] <ompaul> Spliffster, write one hundred times without using a computer I know what a pastebin is :-)
[12:08] <zax1> !he
[12:08] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, zax1
[12:09] <Spliffster> ompaul: sry this was supposed to be one line
[12:09] <ompaul> Spliffster, ergo I had a :-) at the end of the line
[12:09] <pia_> Philip, try this http://mattiaswikstrom.net/linux/20050526-apt-update-script.html
[12:09] <Spliffster> ahhh .... this chat is best viewed with open seys then .. eh ?
[12:10] <Spliffster> s/seys/eyes/
[12:10] <pia_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9669 <-- how can I remove the mozilla-imagezoom package from the apt-get system ?
[12:12] <pschulz01> What do i need to install to play mp3s?
[12:13] <ompaul> pschulz01, if you want more than a one like answer "it creates legal issues in some jurstications" then go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:13] <kuja> !tell pschulz01 about mp3
[12:13] <ompaul> s/like/line
[12:14] <pschulz01> Thanks guys...
[12:14] <zucca^_^> I just installed ubuntu on an asus M3000N and it seems to work fine
[12:14] <ompaul> pschulz01,  sorry I read it as Why do I ...
[12:14] <zucca^_^> double boots with xp home
[12:14] <kuja> pschulz01: Basically, you need a certain gstreamer package.
[12:17] <bigmoe> anyone now how to install google earth on ubuntu
[12:17] <bigmoe> by apt-get
[12:17] <kuja> I'm not all so familiar with the Google projects.
[12:18] <Ng> bigmoe: google earth is windows/mac only at the moment
[12:18] <kuja> Aw that sucks... just when I was about to search :)
[12:18] <thefish> bigmoe: you might be able to use it with wine, but there is defs no way to install with apt
[12:18] <bigmoe> thefish: aw ok thanks
[12:19] <Ng> from what I've seen some people have had limited success with it in wine
[12:19] <Ng> I tried it and it didn't work at all
[12:19] <kuja> Uh, how'd Google get access to satellite imagry?
[12:19] <kuja> NASA crackers :)
[12:19] <Ng> kuja: presumably by spending a bunch of cash to licence it
[12:19] <Ng> they use data from several sources
[12:19] <kuja> Ng: It works... for any location?
[12:19] <bigmoe> no but these are only images they arent real time
[12:20] <Ng> bigmoe: correct
[12:20] <kuja> I wouldn't expect it to be realtime.
[12:20] <Ng> kuja: different locations have different levels of detail
[12:20] <kuja> That's a lot of bandwidth to cope for.
[12:20] <kuja> Any plans on a Linux version?
[12:21] <Ng> maybe, google tend to be quite tight-lipped about things before they release them
[12:21] <Ng> the nearest atm is a 2d version of NASA's Worldwind
[12:21] <dancingmonkey> is there a site where I can find instructions on booting the installer from diskette only, is it possible? I am not migrating from Linux or Windows...
[12:21] <kuja> Ng: Is there anything like it, except for Linux?
[12:21] <Ng> the nearest atm is a 2d version of NASA's Worldwind
[12:21] <kuja> NASA's Worldwind? Eh.. hmm /me googles
[12:22] <bigmoe> Ng: worldwind is like google earth??
[12:22] <bigmoe> i might try it for a change
[12:22] <kuja> Ng: Bah! It's for Windows :(
[12:23] <Ng> kuja: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2005/Sep-30-1.html
[12:23] <xophEr> When I ran 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' after editing breezy -> dapper I got this: http://pastebin.ca/44319 ; is it safe to remove those?
[12:23] <kuja> Ng: I'll have a look
[12:23] <kuja> Ah, mono
[12:23] <kuja> Nice
[12:24] <drj> guys im trying to install glftpd but its saying i need inetd.  how can i fix this please?
[12:25] <Ng> xophEr: it's probably ok. you might want to make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed afterwards so it's definitely pulled in all the bits it needs
[12:25] <ablyss> whats the difference in apt-get upgrade verses apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:25] <Ng> drj: it's available in the netkid-inetd package
[12:25] <xophEr> Ng, ok, why does it want to remove nvidia-glx? :)
[12:25] <Ng> ablyss: dist-upgrade allows apt to remove things or pull in new packages - it's typically only needed to move between versions of a distro, or if you're running the development version
[12:26] <canllaith> what's dapper like at the moment? :)
[12:26] <drj> so i need to do sudo apt-get install netkid-inetd
[12:26] <drj>   ?
[12:26] <Ng> xophEr: presumably there is something else that is slightly confusing apt. You are upgrading to a development version, so things aren't guaranteed to be entirely smoothat this stage. If you put your sources.list back to breezy and make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed it might go smoother. of course you might have that installed already, it's hard to tell. have you installed many third party pacakges?
[12:26] <Ng> drj: yup
[12:26] <drj> lovely thanks
[12:27] <Ng> canllaith: a development tree, it might work today and it might explode tomorrow - it literally depends on what packages are being uploaded at this moment
[12:27] <foampeace> http://www.petebevin.com/
[12:27] <ablyss> Ng, okay thanks
[12:27] <xophEr> Third part as in universe or multiverse?
[12:27] <J_P> hi all
[12:27] <canllaith> Of those who are running it though, how are you finding it at the moment?
[12:27] <Ng> xophEr: yes, but more things completely outside ubuntu
[12:27] <jessy_> is there somebody who can try to upload a file on my FTP in order to try if everything works ?
[12:28] <J_P> people, how I configure ubuntu for work CTRL+ALT+F1, F2, etc for console ?
[12:28] <bigmoe> guys i want to know how to share my internet connection over a wireless network using linux but i really dont know how to do that can someone advice me to some ebook or something to get me started!
[12:28] <drj> hmm E: Couldn't find package netkid-inetd
[12:28] <Ng> canllaith: I'm finding it fine, but I'm not scared by debian-like systems exploding on me. the other day I had to hack some packages to get an upgrade to work
[12:28] <Ng> drj: netkit not netkid
[12:28] <xophEr> Ng, well a few programs Ive compiled myself but nothing major.. Dont think would interfere
[12:28] <blAckEn3d> query tetuzz
[12:28] <blAckEn3d> oops
[12:28] <blAckEn3d> sorry
[12:28] <Ng> drj: sorry, that was my typo
[12:28] <snowblink> J_P, it should already do that
[12:28] <drj> ah sorry :)
[12:29] <J_P> snowblink: really NOT!
[12:29] <canllaith> fair enough. It seems to be the easiest way to get KDE 3.5 and the gnome RC so I'm upgrading now.
[12:29] <snowblink> J_P, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:30] <kiran_> hi
[12:30] <dancingmonkey> I'm guessing linux is too big to get an installer on a diskette, in that case, should I shoot for Dapper? or ??? Your naming convention is out to lunch.
[12:30] <J_P> snowblink: 5.10
[12:30] <flogisto1> Use a cd
[12:30] <ablyss> bigmoe, you plan on using static IP on your for the shared computers or dhcp ?
[12:30] <dancingmonkey> I have no CD-Burner
[12:30] <JakeK> quick question,what do you folks think is the irc client in this screenshot? http://beta.linux.be/gfx.use/linux.screenshot.1079.1.png
[12:31] <love_> what update is used for restricted formats in synaptic ?
[12:31] <JakeK> as well as the font, it looks crisp, i like it
[12:31] <love_> mp3, etc?
[12:31] <Ng> JakeK: that looks like irssi
[12:31] <canllaith> JakeK: irssi
[12:31] <xophEr> heh, Ng , now I installed ubuntu-desktop - and now apt wants to remove it too :)
[12:31] <JakeK> thank you heaps, what about the hot font?
[12:31] <JakeK> font looks sexc and crisp don't you think?
[12:31] <colm> dancingmonkey, you can order a free CD at ubuntu.com
[12:32] <love_> mp3, etc?
[12:32] <canllaith> JakeK: i think that's because it's running in Etern from the look of it
[12:32] <love_> what update is used for restricted formats in synaptic ?
[12:32] <canllaith> with font drop shadows
[12:32] <Ng> xophEr: ok, well if you really want to go ahead with the dist-upgrade you'll want to install that again after and it should then remove whatever is confusing it, but it is within the bounds of possibility that you will need to clear up some of the dependencies by hand if apt can't figure it out
[12:32] <love_> what update is used for restricted formats ?
[12:32] <JakeK> okay thanks
[12:32] <kiran_> i have a msi 7800GTX graphical card, and my son wants to play planetpenguin-racer, i installed tthe game, but when i run it, the menu goes really slow? should i first install some drivers? and how should i do it :s?
[12:32] <JakeK> really helpful i gotta go help with fluxbox
[12:33] <colm> kiran_, you'll need nvidia drivers
[12:33] <Ng> !tell kiran_ about nvidia
[12:33] <xophEr> Ill probably just wait a week or two before I dist-upgrade :) Easier that way
[12:33] <colm> !nvidia
[12:33] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:33] <dancingmonkey> colm, Takes too long, and it's generally cheaper to just netinstall. I am playing with openbsd right now, and I am happy with it, except for the lack of drivers (Both my Vortex soundcard AND Aureal 802.11G NIC)
[12:33] <J_P> snowblink: becouse I need go to console, without GUI..
[12:34] <J_P> or enter with mono user.. in boot..
[12:34] <sword> any gimp users here ?
[12:34] <Philip> thanks PIA
[12:34] <sword> gimp v 2.2.8 doesnt want to open .psd files
[12:34] <dancingmonkey> I love mpd but the onboard soundcard is just too crappy. Time to switch OS'
[12:34] <J_P> in lilo i was do : Linux single, and with grup, how I enter as single ?
[12:34] <avar_> where can I contact the personell in charge of the shipit system?
[12:34] <avar_> i.e. if I find bugs or some other issues with it
[12:35] <dancingmonkey> sword, most likely, the psd wasn't saved in compatibility mode, eg. the format is too new.
[12:35] <sword> damn
[12:35] <liable> J_P: you can append single to the kernel line in grub 'e' at the grub screen or boot the rescue kernel. alt+ctl+F1 doesnt work??
[12:35] <colm> sword, I can recommend latest Krita, it supports 16bit CMYK mode
[12:35] <kiran_> how do i know if i'm on hoary or on breezy
[12:35] <sword> yeah ijust need some CSS settings from it
[12:35] <sword> Krita?
[12:36] <dancingmonkey> so, what version should I get?
[12:36] <bigmoe_> Ng: can i install ubuntu using the TV out without a normal screen?
[12:36] <colm> sword, Krita is the image tool from KOffice
[12:36] <J_P> liable: NOT, when I am are in gnome, CTRL+ALT+F1, F2.. etc NOT work
[12:36] <love_> what update is used for restricted formats ?
[12:36] <love_> what update is used for restricted formats ?
[12:36] <love_> what update is used for restricted formats ?
[12:36] <dancingmonkey> They don't have numbers, just names, and no one mentions dapper, but it seems just released, but, released last year, but newer then the one they are giving out on CD....
[12:37] <dancingmonkey> love_, The annoying one.
[12:37] <love_> ty monkey
[12:37] <dancingmonkey> np.
[12:37] <liable> J_P: strange. you can kill gdm from a term though. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:37] <null> hayo uuuuuuubuntoooo people
[12:37] <love_> what update is used for restricted formats ?
[12:37] <sword> hmm i cant open this psd file w/ krita either
[12:37] <liable> love_: stop that.
[12:37] <avar_> bleh, anyone?
[12:37] <love_> its an easy answer
[12:37] <dancingmonkey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:37] <flogisto1> Is /charset uft-8 to set utf-8 coding?
[12:38] <colm> sword, you need the latest dev version... wait I'll get the repository details...
[12:38] <sword> okay
[12:38] <sword> thanks
[12:38] <liable> love_: and because you are being so damn annoying, you might find noone wants to answer
[12:38] <bigmoe_> can i install ubuntu using the TV out without a normal screen?
[12:38] <J_P> liable: but I like alternate between console and gnome..
[12:38] <love_> i just dont remember, I am setting up a terminal at a hurricane katrina relief center
[12:38] <sword> though i wish i could open this psd file w/ gimp
[12:38] <liable> !restricted
[12:38] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:38] <sword> any of you have ubuntu packages for 2.2.10 gimp?
[12:39] <love_> ty liable
[12:39] <colm> sword, you could save it as 8bit rgb from krita to then open in gimp
[12:39] <liable> J_P: then you should check the bts for problems why you cant get vt1 etc.
[12:39] <dancingmonkey> bigmoe_, no you must use a computer as the tv has no cd-rom drive. You can however install netbsd onto your dvd-player.
[12:39] <liable> ohnos, opless again!
[12:39] <colm> I've got this in my sources.list:     deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/koffice15beta1 breezy main
[12:39] <J_P> liable: what are "bts" ?
[12:40] <colm> add that then apt-get update
[12:40] <dancingmonkey> bigmoe_, but as for installing an os with a low-resolution screen, as long as your videocard works, yes.
[12:40] <liable> J_P: bug tracker, whatever ubuntu's is. apparently its called some funky name these days.
[12:40] <null> any one using xinerama here on uuubuntoo ?
[12:41] <eso3> k
[12:41] <sword> damn
[12:41] <eso3> hola
[12:41] <sword> gmail isnt downloading this attachments right
[12:41] <dancingmonkey> we are a room full of questions who have no answers.
[12:42] <bigmoe_> dancingmonkey: i mean im using my TV as the screen, can i see the installation process or nothing at all with TV out
[12:42] <sword> hmm that could be ONE problem
[12:42] <dancingmonkey> bigmoe_, Try, if you see nothing, then no. It shouldn't hurt to try lest ye mash keys randomly.
[12:43] <dancingmonkey> i'm going to bed as you people are all quite mad or useless.
[12:44] <liable> bwahahaha
[12:44] <Seveas> !tell dancingmonkey about attitude
[12:44] <xiaoyu> is there anybody use TeX
[12:44] <Seveas> xiaoyu, well, latex
[12:45] <Seveas> not raw tex
[12:45] <xiaoyu> how can i outpt colorful font
[12:46] <Seveas> \usepackage{color}
[12:46] <twb> ,g latex color site:ctan.org
[12:46] <xiaoyu> Seveas, How can i get colorful fonts
[12:46] <twb> fsbot still down?
[12:46] <J_P> liable: your ubuntu 5.10 work ctrl_alt+f1, f2 ... ?
[12:46] <twb> Oh, wrong channel.
[12:46] <dancingmonkey> !tell Seveas all of you are useless or quite mad and may scare away potential minions
[12:47] <twb> xiaoyu: http://google.com/search?q=site:ctan.org+color
[12:47] <liable> J_P: i dont have ubuntu 5.10, but yes, many peoples do
[12:47] <J_P> liable: ok
[12:47] <Seveas> xiaoyu, twb has a very good tip, ctan is full of information
[12:47] <J_P> liable: I go wait 6.4 :-)
[12:48] <lee> hello all.  thunderbird has suddenly stopped working -- I haven't upgraded it or the system lately, it just suddenly died whilst I was using it and now it refuses to start giving this error: DOUBLE-CLICK: 400 --> -1 THRESHOLD: 8 --> -1 /usr/lib/mozilla-thunderbird/run-mozilla.sh: line 159: 13594 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"} ... anybody know how to fix it?
[12:48] <xiaoyu> Seveas, ths
[12:48] <liable> J_P: yours should be fixable, unless you have explicitely told xorg not to allow vt's then i suggest you check for bugs as i cant think of a reason for it not to.
[12:49] <J_P> liable: ok
[12:49] <Seveas> xiaoyu, http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/RB/sourcestyle.tex is an example of how I used it
[12:50] <Curtman> Does the Firefox in dapper add mouse gesture support?  Every time I scroll my mouse wheel quickly, it takes me back or forward as if I had clicked the back or forward button.  :(
[12:50] <xiaoyu> Seveas, must i use the color package?
[12:51] <lee> (I'm using breezy and thunderbird 1.0.7)
[12:51] <Seveas> xiaoyu, yes
[12:55] <jpotex> I've got UTF8 when using irssi in Ubuntu... how can I change that?
[12:55] <Pupeno_> What do I need to install on my kubuntu to access samba printers ? the dialog for adding a new printer has samba printers greyed out.
[12:56] <jpotex> My swedish mates complain over bad characters because of that. :P
[12:56] <munti78> how do i find out if something is installed?
[12:56] <jono> hi all
[12:56] <mjr> jpotex, tell them to fix their clients
[12:56] <jono> how do I scan for XDMCP servers and log in
[12:56] <xiaoyu> Seveas, i have another question. in what way can i know the command of a package
[12:56] <kemik> jpotex: are u running irssi from a gnometerminal ?
[12:56] <lowfi> hi
[12:57] <munti78> anyone? how can i now if a program already is installed?
[12:57] <Seveas> xiaoyu, I don't understand what you mean with 'command of a package'
[12:57] <el_froggy> hi, i 've succesfully installed vegastrike (space simulator) but how do i run it?
[12:57] <jpotex> kemik - The terminal that follows with ubuntu
[12:58] <xiaoyu> Seveas, what command does a package have
[12:58] <kemik> jpotex: just change charset in the terminal window then
[12:58] <jpotex> kemik - And how do I do that?
[12:58] <kemik> jpotex: it should be avavilable from one of the menues
[12:58] <Seveas> that depends on the package - if you want to know all commands of a package you should read its documentation
[12:58] <kemik> and the charset you want is iso-8859-1 if i'm not mistaken
[12:59] <xiaoyu> Seveas, does the command "textcolor" belong to color
[12:59] <jpotex> kemik - I changed the keyboard layout from the menues
[12:59] <jpotex> kemik - But that didnt change the charset UTF8
[12:59] <Seveas> xiaoyu, yes
[12:59] <K0phein> hello
[12:59] <K0phein> i'm looking for a linux distro that supports a Creative Audigy 4 SoundCard
[12:59] <kemik> there's an option to change charset
[12:59] <kemik> keep searching
[12:59] <xiaoyu> Seveas, how do you know
[12:59] <el_froggy> hi, i 've succesfully installed vegastrike (space simulator) but how do i run it?
[12:59] <kemik> im in windows atm so i cant tell you exactly where it is
[12:59] <K0phein> does ubuntu do that?
[01:00] <Seveas> xiaoyu, because I read the documentation :D
[01:00] <bigfoot1> how do i make basic edits (cutting) of avi movie files?
[01:00] <Seveas> bigfoot1, kino, cinelerra
[01:01] <bigfoot1> Seveas: thank you. Will get and try those 2.
[01:01] <xiaoyu> must i read the doc before i use it, my english is poor
[01:01] <jpotex> kemik - Ok, hmm.  Tried with only charset in terminal, no success though
[01:02] <el_froggy> kemik, could you tell me, how do i run a program after i installed it?
[01:02] <kemik> el_froggy: type the programname in a terminal
[01:02] <kemik> most likely
[01:03] <el_froggy> tnx kemik
[01:04] <KakiPukul> if you're not sure though, you can checkout synaptic and check for the file installed, usually in /usr/bin
[01:04] <bigfoot1> Seveas: E: Couldn't find package cinelerra
[01:05] <Seveas> bigfoot1, then use kino 
[01:05] <Seveas> !info cinelerra dapper
[01:05] <Seveas> yup, -ENOPACKAGE - it's not packaged yet
[01:05] <C-O-L-T> Hello I have a probelm, I have updated my system and now my soundcard does not works
[01:05] <KakiPukul> the small tsu again...
[01:06] <bigfoot1> Seveas: it's a new package?
[01:06] <KakiPukul> it's not even in the repos yet :)
[01:06] <KakiPukul> well i guess you can compile it manually from source
[01:06] <bigfoot1> KakiPukul: compiling from source? yikes. intimiidating
[01:06] <djp> is this what i need to do if i want to get a webcam working under breezy? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx#head-a41c9f1dcbc1ea763d572e99ba1e4928ee0625d1. i am referring to the alternative steps... replacing the spca5xx driver
[01:07] <KakiPukul> not really
[01:07] <KakiPukul> well, many are in the repos, but newer things like the latest kernel etc...
[01:08] <KakiPukul> I rather DIY on that :)
[01:09] <bigfoot1> if "compiling from source" is as easy as copying and pasting lines into the terminal, no prob with me.
[01:09] <KakiPukul> well... it gives adventure... at least you can see the mistakes/bugs straight from the source
[01:10] <ebrother> hello
[01:11] <bigfoot1> where do we find instructions on Compiling from source?
[01:12] <ebrother> Is there anyone who knows how to input Chinese in aMSN?
[01:12] <kemik> on the wiki
[01:12] <kemik> !compile
[01:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[01:13] <bigfoot1> is there only one flavor of mplayer?
[01:13] <dusk> startkeylogger
[01:13] <bigfoot1> LIke, totem comes in 2 flavors.
[01:13] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: differnet for diff archs..more like
[01:14] <jpotex> Argh. That was bad. I cant apt-get install kopete because I dont have the ubuntu cdrom
[01:14] <larsrohdi> Hi, excuse a possibly stuipid question, but does the /var/log/auth.log and syslog clean themselves?
[01:14] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: its the backend tht differentiats the two totems :)
[01:14] <sudharsh> jpotex: y would u need the ubuntu cdrom
[01:14] <afief> Software update often just doesn't work(download dialouge appears and disappears without asking if i agree on installation) synaptic works though. anybody knows this problem?
[01:15] <jpotex> sudharsh - It says so
[01:15] <larsrohdi> anyone?
[01:15] <sudharsh> jpotex: add repositories and install through the net
[01:15] <AndyBe> Does anybody known the gnome option to get mounted devices like cdrom on the desktop back.
[01:15] <jpotex> sudharsh - I dont know how though
[01:15] <sudharsh> afaik the cdrom doesnt hav any kde packages
[01:15] <KakiPukul> i love totem (the statue), I love eating them hehe
[01:15] <sudharsh> jpotex: open synaptic
[01:16] <jpotex> sudharsh - huh?
[01:16] <sudharsh> the package manager
[01:16] <bigfoot1> sudharsh: so totem has 2 backends. Which plays avi files better? and does mplayer come in 2 backends, too?
[01:16] <CineFX3D_> stupid gaim.. how can it show all users, not just online ones? couldn't find it in the preferences
[01:16] <jpotex> Aha
[01:16] <jpotex> sudharsh - And where do I find that ?
[01:16] <bigfoot1> how come my avi files play smoothly in mplayer but not in totem?
[01:16] <KakiPukul> kubuntu does... for ubuntu, you can update your universe section...
[01:16] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: totem-xine on libxine
[01:16] <bigfoot1> correction: one avi (as of yet)
[01:16] <drj> ok.. trying to install glftpd.. it couldnt find a compiler so i put gcc on.. and ran the installer again but they failed to compile. im trying to do it manually now and i get this..cjones@cjubuntu:/glftpd/bin/sources$ gcc ansi2gl.c -o ansi2gl
[01:16] <drj> ansi2gl.c:15:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[01:16] <drj> ansi2gl.c:16:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory
[01:16] <drj> ..
[01:17] <bigfoot1> how do i know which totem i have?
[01:17] <drj> could someone please tell me what packages i need to get the standard c headers?
[01:17] <afief> drj: get the build essential package
[01:17] <KakiPukul> drj, install build-essential first
[01:17] <CineFX3D_> and where the hell can I edit menus for gnome? applications etc..?
[01:17] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: then u must hav totem-gstreamer
[01:17] <sudharsh> the about button should help
[01:17] <sudharsh> drj: libc6-dev
[01:18] <sudharsh> jpotex: settings -> repositories and add the repos
[01:18] <sudharsh> and do an update
[01:19] <afief> Does anybody experience the update manager not functioning correctly(attemping to download, exiting download process automaticly, no error)
[01:19] <jpotex> sudharsh - If I had that :P
[01:19] <bigfoot1> sudharsh: how did you come to the conclusion that i have totem-gstreamer?
[01:19] <drj> k ill give it a go thanks
[01:19] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: default installations hav gstreamer as the backend
[01:19] <jpotex> sudharsh - I found the package manager, but I cant open it as apt-get or another application use it (at least it say so... though I dont have it open)
[01:19] <bigfoot1> how can i check which totem i have?
[01:20] <sudharsh> jpotex: then check if u hav any terminals which is usin apt or dpkg
[01:20] <bigfoot1> and why does mplayer play an avi file smoothly while totem does not (nor does gmplayer)
[01:20] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: help -> about
[01:20] <jpotex> sudharsh- Dont have it, but I tried rebooting
[01:20] <prada> bigfoot1: cos it's better :)
[01:21] <bigfoot1> II have totem-gstreamer. Based on sudharsh's advise, I should switch to totem-xine. If you have any objections (wisdom), speak now or, or. Ok. JUst speak now
[01:22] <pianoboy3333> What web-page editors like dreamweaver are there availible for ubuntu? Is there something in the repositories?
[01:22] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: if u want install totem-xine
[01:22] <NET||abuse> arrrg, can't remember how to mount a 2003 share,,, smbfs doesn't work, there's another -t option to use, what is it???
[01:22] <sudharsh> jpotex: u gotta hav the synaptic pkg manager..mate
[01:22] <KakiPukul> well, use xine or vlc... these two are more powerful than totem... totem is too freaky to use
[01:23] <jpotex> sudharsh - Yeah, but I cannot access it. I'm rebooting the system and see if it helps
[01:23] <sudharsh> jpotex: else try 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:24] <KakiPukul> well, synaptic is installed by default... if you install ubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <bigfoot1> in vlc, if i have fullscreen, how can i control playback? how can i get the "remote control" to appear?
[01:25] <jpotex> sudharsh - Now Im in the grapical one of the package manager in the systemlist
[01:25] <jpotex> sudharsh - What should I do next when I've started it?
[01:26] <KakiPukul> bigfoot1, you can click the right mouse button, and the control menu pops up
[01:26] <cerebrosius> !w32codecs
[01:26] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:27] <CineFX3D_> How do I add a program to auto-start when I login?
[01:27] <sudharsh> jpotex: settings -> repositories
[01:27] <jpotex> Ok, and then?
[01:27] <KakiPukul> CineFX3D_, on GNOME>?
[01:27] <CineFX3D_> yes
[01:27] <sudharsh> jpotex: add the repositories, of course check all the boxes
[01:27] <KakiPukul> Just goto System => Preference => Sessions
[01:27] <lesshaste> anyone got any idea how I could extract an image from a Word document (in openoffice) to a file?
[01:28] <KakiPukul> click on the Startup Program tab, and start picking startup programs
[01:28] <jpotex> sudharsh - I've got three to choose, and can write an APT line with adress
[01:28] <KakiPukul> click the button add :)
[01:28] <jpotex> sudharsh - But how do I know what to write?
[01:29] <CineFX3D_> thanks dude!
[01:29] <sudharsh> jpotex: k..so now u hav the gedit open
[01:29] <KakiPukul> lesshaste, just open the Word doc in OO, and copy+paste?
[01:30] <NET||abuse> found it.... windows network sharing is done through cifs
[01:30] <KakiPukul> into a new file...
[01:30] <jpotex> sudharsh - No, I'm where I can enter an APT line
[01:30] <sudharsh> no dont enter an apt-line
[01:30] <bigfoot1> ANy programs that can do basic editing of avi files (aside from kino (which is really for dv files), ?
[01:30] <jpotex> sudharsh - Ok, what should I do then?
[01:30] <sudharsh> u must hav clicked the custom button
[01:30] <KakiPukul> yeah, bigfoot1 , I wonder about that too
[01:30] <[-DevinE-] > where can i get ubuntu logon screens?
[01:31] <jpotex> sudharsh - Yeah
[01:31] <bigfoot1> KakiPukul: gimp won't do movie files, right?
[01:31] <bigfoot1> =
[01:31] <KakiPukul> no :)
[01:31] <lesshaste> KakiPukul, to what?
[01:31] <lesshaste> I have the solution now :)
[01:31] <KakiPukul> graphics, stricly graphics
[01:31] <sudharsh> jpotex: dont do that..jus enable the repos u want from the combo box, checkin all the boxes and click ok
[01:31] <lesshaste> the solution is... save to a html !:))
[01:31] <jpotex> sudharsh - But all of them has cdrom as source?
[01:32] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: cinerella..somethin of that sort
[01:32] <[-DevinE-] > where can i get ubuntu logon screens?
[01:32] <bigfoot1> KakiPukul: i'm trying to open an avi file in kino, but it "aborts". you face the same problem?
[01:32] <el_froggy> i just wrote my first cpp file, how do i compile it?
[01:32] <bigfoot1> sudharsh: seveas says tat cinerella is not packaged yet
[01:32] <KakiPukul> kino? wait...
[01:32] <sudharsh> jpotex: no they arent cdrom sources...
[01:32] <jpotex> sudharsh - Then I cant be where you want me to be?
[01:32] <KakiPukul> !tell el_froggy about gcc
[01:32] <[-DevinE-] > !wiki
[01:32] <sudharsh> bigfoot1: nope nvr used em...try compoilinf from source
[01:33] <jpotex> sudharsh - Because the url in them starts with cdrom:
[01:33] <[-DevinE-] > !wiki logon
[01:33] <KakiPukul> qwell, bigfoot1, it is for DVs, not AVIs
[01:33] <KakiPukul> i got the same error too..
[01:33] <sudharsh> jpotex: pardon me...i think we r lost...lets start from the forst
[01:33] <jpotex> sudharsh - I found what you meant now :)
[01:34] <sudharsh> jpotex: welln then reload the pkg list
[01:34] <KakiPukul> el_froggy - usually we do this ''gcc <filename.cpp>"
[01:34] <jpotex> sudharsh - Huh?
[01:34] <bigfoot1> what file should i get from http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3?
[01:34] <marius_> Hello, Ive got the following question. Is there a possibility to forward ports directly in Ubuntu. For example fr Skype..
[01:34] <_stian> people, anyone that can help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=788337#post788337
[01:34] <KakiPukul> well there are other options/switch... the default executable is a.out I think
[01:35] <jpotex> I have a list of some alternatives and the windows has the title Software Sources.... but there's nothing like reload or so... I can use Add, Remove, Edit
[01:35] <peej> marius_: what do you mean?
[01:35] <bigfoot1> http://heroinewarrior.com/download.php3 is the downloads page of cinerella. i don't know which is appropriete
[01:35] <jpotex> sudharsh: I have a list of some alternatives and the windows has the title Software Sources.... but there's nothing like reload or so... I can use Add, Remove, Edit
[01:35] <jpotex> sudharsh - And Authenticiation and Settings
[01:35] <Protocol1> time to pop a pill
[01:35] <djp> is this what i need to do if i want to get a webcam working under breezy? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx#head-a41c9f1dcbc1ea763d572e99ba1e4928ee0625d1. i am referring to the alternative steps... replacing the spca5xx driver
[01:36] <sudharsh> jpotex: click add
[01:36] <jpotex> sudharsh - Or ah, now I see what you meant. :P Sorry
[01:36] <sudharsh> jpotex: :)
[01:36] <_stian> what packages are essential to a successfull compile? (people, anyone that can help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=788337#post788337)
[01:36] <KakiPukul> "build-essential", _stian
[01:37] <KakiPukul> the exact name for the debian package...
[01:37] <marius_> peej: How I described it. If there is a possibility to forward ports in Ubuntu?
[01:38] <peej> marius_ : ssh -L option will do it generally.
[01:38] <KakiPukul> forward port... cumbersome, but I did a few ubuntu forward porting, especially breezy+dappers
[01:38] <CineFX3D_> guys, can you recommend a good news reader?
[01:38] <CineFX3D_> I was thinking pan maybe?
[01:38] <_stian> I have all the build-essential stuff, but it still won't work
[01:38] <_stian> akregator
[01:38] <KakiPukul> oh the other kind of porting :)
[01:38] <jpotex> sudharsh - Now Im gonna try again
[01:39] <ssdo> can i ask help in here
[01:39] <sudharsh> jpotex: make sure u hav added the repos
[01:39] <jpotex> It said I have, but now there's another problem with "sudo apt-get install kopete". :(
[01:39] <KakiPukul> ssdo, no, but If you actually ask the question. we would answer :)
[01:40] <KakiPukul> it needs kde?
[01:40] <irvs10tz> hey guys.. anyone hir familiar with freestyle online?? looks like the set-up is for windows only.. can i get some help if i can install this one in ubuntu.....................
[01:40] <jpotex> sudharsh - E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavaible), E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dbpk), is another process using it?
[01:41] <KakiPukul> _stian, you need the ffmpeg development library :)
[01:41] <bast> I think theres an emulation program for windows appz ...
[01:41] <zirasun> # <ubuntu-fr>
[01:41] <jpotex> sudharsh - That comes when I use "sudo apt-get install kopete"
[01:41] <sudharsh> jpotex: well of course u r unning synaptic as well
[01:41] <jpotex> Hm ok
[01:41] <irvs10tz> bast, can i install windows programs in linux???
[01:41] <sudharsh> irvs10tz: wine
[01:41] <jpotex> sudharsh - That just get me back to where I was before?
[01:42] <KakiPukul> "libavformat-dev" - > package that you need to install, _stian
[01:42] <jpotex> sudharsh - The synaptic package manager
[01:42] <zirasun> please past to ubuntu french
[01:42] <_stian> i have ffmpeg
[01:42] <bast> I heard that in SuSE its possible with an Emulation Program to run Windows applications
[01:42] <_stian> i also have libavformat-dev
[01:42] <irvs10tz> sudharsh, if i install wine, i can be able to run windows apps?
[01:42] <sudharsh> jpotex: u cant 'apt-get install'  and run synaptic at the same time
[01:43] <sudharsh> irvs10tz: sure most of em
[01:43] <bast> it should work
[01:43] <jpotex> sudharsh - Well, I didnt do that.
[01:43] <KakiPukul> it doesn't compile,? maybe the path set isn't pointing to those library? tried the PATH flag?
[01:43] <jpotex> sudharsh - However, I refreshed after changing source for apt-get, but it still ask for the cdrom
[01:43] <KakiPukul> irvs10tz, not all windows programs though, technically some...
[01:43] <ssdo> i have a dell c840 in which the lcd sometimes flickers any ideas how to resolve this?
[01:44] <jpotex> sudharsh - And now I can't get back into synaptic after running that apt-get command, bah
[01:44] <sudharsh> jpotex: ok we'll do this another way
[01:44] <ssdo> i am on breezy and my display card is nvidia geforce 4
[01:44] <sudharsh> jpotex: close that terminal which is apt-gettin
[01:44] <KakiPukul> the monitor refresh rate in you xorg config doesn;t match your monitor's refresh rate, ssdo
[01:44] <jpotex> sudharsh- Ok, and then?
[01:45] <KakiPukul> try to reconfigure your monitor refresh rate...
[01:45] <sudharsh> jpotex: from a terminal 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:45] <KakiPukul> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server? right?
[01:45] <sudharsh> KakiPukul: rite...:)
[01:45] <jpotex> sudharsh - Ok, and now?
[01:46] <ssdo> kakipukul, so where can get help to fix this?
[01:46] <KakiPukul> no, wrong package... xserver-common...
[01:46] <sudharsh> jpotex: ok now if u scroll up and down u'll find a set of urls that are commented out..
[01:46] <KakiPukul> your must know the refresh rate that your monitor support, the easy way is looking for it in Windows...
[01:46] <jpotex> sudharsh - Yepp?
[01:47] <jpotex> sudharsh - But also a set of urls which isnt commented out
[01:47] <sudharsh> jpotex: remove the comments..
[01:47] <jpotex> sudharsh - All of them?
[01:47] <KakiPukul> next do the package configuration, and enter your refresh manually, after autodetect fails...
[01:47] <sudharsh> jpotex: thats the default thing,,no need to worry bout em
[01:47] <[Leo] > hello!
[01:47] <ardchoille> sudharsh: that can also be done from the settings of Synaptic (Show disabled software sources)
[01:47] <jpotex> sudharsh - done
[01:47] <sudharsh> jpotex: you are your own judge...
[01:47] <NET||abuse> anyone know a good svn gui i could use?
[01:48] <KakiPukul> gotta charge my battery...
[01:48] <equador> where i can default sources.list ?
[01:48] <sudharsh> ardchoille: hes havin troubl with that
[01:48] <equador> where i can get default sources.list ?
[01:48] <ardchoille> sudharsh: ah, ok
[01:48] <jpotex> sudharsh - And now?
[01:48] <sudharsh> jpotex: open up another terminal and 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:48] <KakiPukul> equador, reinstall apt-get?
[01:48] <equador> how
[01:48] <sudharsh> equador: its located in the /etc/apt
[01:48] <ardchoille> equador: /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:48] <jpotex> sudharsh- Ok, doin that now
[01:48] <equador> yes, i know... but i want reinstall sources.list only
[01:49] <equador> because my sources.list is empty
[01:49] <jpotex> sudharsh - Done
[01:49] <jpotex> sudharsh - ANd now?
[01:49] <sudharsh> jpotex: now...sudo apt-get install kopete
[01:49] <ardchoille> equador: /etc/apt/sources.list.save ?
[01:49] <jpotex> sudharsh - Thanks, it works :D
[01:49] <ardchoille> equador: /etc/apt/sources.list~ ?
[01:49] <equador> no...
[01:49] <equador> :(
[01:49] <jpotex> sudharsh - Even though the us-sources are a little slow
[01:50] <sudharsh> jpotex: remember u cant hav two instances of apt runnin..
[01:50] <jpotex> sudharsh - Nah
[01:50] <sudharsh> jpotex: indian mirrors r fast here :P
[01:50] <ardchoille> equador: you can get a new list generated at: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:50] <CineFX3D_> ok, this might sound stupid.. but I made a sym link on my desktop which goes to one directory (starts nautilus).. and there is a white/blue arrow thing over my icon on desktop.. is there a way to remove this visual "feature"?
[01:51] <jpotex> sudharsh - Thanks for the help though
[01:51] <sudharsh> jpotex: :)
[01:51] <jpotex> sudharsh - I'm still a little confused over the thing with UTF8 though
[01:52] <ardchoille> CineFX3D_: that "visual feature" is there to tell you that it is a link to something else. Can you right click it and change the icon?
[01:52] <zeraphath> I installed Ubuntu yesterday on my emachines T6410...it installed fine..but for some reason the X server is hosed after install...this computer has a ATI radeon xpress 200 on the mobo...anyone know what I need to do to get ubuntu graphics working?
[01:52] <sudharsh> jpotex: dunno much bout that
[01:52] <jpotex> sudharsh - My mates complains over me using UTF8 so our three last characters doesn't work properly, but I don't know how to change that into our own encoding
[01:53] <CineFX3D_> ardchoille: I know what it is for.. I've changed my icon.. and it's still there.. I'd be glad to get rid of it on just that icon
[01:53] <sudharsh> jpotex: u mean whilst sharing text files wiht windowz users?
[01:53] <jpotex> sudharsh - While writing in irssi for an example
[01:53] <sudharsh> ...no exp in that...u r greek n latin to me rite now :(
[01:53] <jpotex> sudharsh - Windows (at least not the swedish version) doesn't use utf8
[01:53] <jpotex> Hehe ok
[01:55] <irvs10tz> hey guys!, i already downloaded wine but i cant find it.. any ideas where can i find it?????????????????????/
[01:55] <CineFX3D_> which text editor you recommend for php/html/javascript and a bit of c++? I need utf8 support for files.. I'm kinda used to UltraEdit on windows :/
[01:55] <sudharsh> irvs10tz:..u dont need to
[01:55] <sudharsh> wine <app-name>
[01:55] <kemik> jpotex: det gr att ndra i terminalen instllningar....
[01:55] <zeraphath> Users of Ubuntu Hoary (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/) can do the following:
[01:55] <zeraphath> sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver
[01:56] <irvs10tz> sudharsh, what do u mean? if i already downloaded wine this means i can already install windows apps???
[01:56] <zeraphath> So can't Ubuntu detect this at install time and adjust accordingly?
[01:56] <sudharsh> irvs10tz: if through apt-get..then yes :)
[01:56] <kemik> jpotex: or you could search http://ubuntu-se.org/
[01:57] <irvs10tz> sudharsh, i downloaded it using synaptic.........
[01:57] <sudharsh> zeraphath: ati drivers and linux dont go well...
[01:57] <jpotex> kemik - I'll try the board on linux.se
[01:57] <sudharsh> irvs10tz: yeah man..its installed
[01:57] <irvs10tz> tnx
[01:57] <azurehuesofblue> Hi, I have two monitors plugged into my nividia geforce card and only the one monitor works and the other one has multi colored flickering lines.  Where do I start?? Is this a driver issue?
[01:58] <sudharsh> CineFX3D_: cream works for me
[01:59] <sudharsh> any vi -based editor for that matter
[01:59] <kbrooks> 17 days left...
[01:59] <kbrooks> i think.
[01:59] <kbrooks> am i right?
[01:59] <kbrooks> !dapper
[01:59] <ubotu> dapper is, like, pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[02:00] <S0me1> !bash
[02:00] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[02:00] <S0me1> guys,what is the best mirro for apt?
[02:01] <sudharsh> S0me1: the default ones shouuld suffice...
[02:01] <sudharsh> afaik..mirrors from ur country are selected by default
[02:02] <avalost> Anybody know goods places to get fonts?
[02:02] <avalost> !fonts
[02:02] <ubotu> hmm... fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[02:02] <S0me1> avalost, copy windows fonts
[02:03] <Burgermann> Where can I find the an url for an online repository?.. my CD install fails :(((
[02:03] <sudharsh> Burgermann: u dont need to...edit the source.list accordingly
[02:03] <S0me1> Burgermann, sudo apt-get update
[02:03] <Burgermann> I'm not even that far.. I'm stuck in the installation process
[02:04] <sudharsh> Burgermann: oh..ok..did u download em
[02:05] <Burgermann> Don't know. I burned a breezy CD and I think it's my old laptop CD-ROM drive courses the pain. I wan't to install from the online repositories.
[02:05] <Burgermann> causes*
[02:05] <sudharsh> Burgermann: does the installation hang
[02:06] <Rawplayer> mi
[02:06] <sudharsh> theres a chance the image may be corrupt
[02:06] <Burgermann> Nah I seem to get to a menu from where I can choose one of the installation steps
[02:06] <yezariael> hey there
[02:06] <yezariael> how can i install the "make" command?
[02:06] <sudharsh> Burgermann: plz expalin the contents
[02:06] <Burgermann> I saw I could set apt-get up, so I jumped to that step
[02:06] <Jae686> anyone have any thoughs about http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=788288#post788288 ?
[02:07] <sudharsh> Burgermann: u carried on to advanced installation then
[02:07] <yezariael> hey yoyo?
[02:07] <Burgermann> sudharsh: yeah it showed me this, when it failed copying the base system
[02:08] <yezariael> can anyone tell me how to install the make-command?
[02:08] <sudharsh> Burgermann: oh oh...
[02:08] <sudharsh> Burgermann: sure the image is not corrupt?? been there many times
[02:08] <sudharsh> !build-essential
[02:08] <ubotu> [build-essential]  a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[02:09] <sudharsh> yezariael: dta was for u
[02:09] <yezariael> !build-essential
[02:09] <Burgermann> sudharsh: it didn't say it was corrupt. It just said it could'nt install package xx
[02:09] <yezariael> okay
[02:09] <yezariael> thx
[02:09] <azurehuesofblue> how do I turn X server on and off?
[02:09] <[Leo] > azurehuesofblue, do you mean at startup?
[02:10] <sudharsh> Burgermann: then a faulty media or drive..i guess
[02:10] <azurehuesofblue> well, I'm trying to install a nvidia driver and it says it wont install until I turn X server off.
[02:10] <Burgermann> I guess, I've tried a couple of times, and as I said I think it's my CD-ROM drive... it's a laptop and it's about 2-3 years old, so nothing's what it use to be
[02:10] <djp> sudharsh, hi. i think i asked you a question regards webcams yesterday? is this what i need to do if i want to get a webcam working under breezy? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx#head-a41c9f1dcbc1ea763d572e99ba1e4928ee0625d1. i am referring to the alternative steps... replacing the spca5xx driver
[02:11] <azurehuesofblue> Leo: so I guess it doesn't matter if at start up or not, but I want to know how to turn it back on after.
[02:11] <sudharsh> djp: i'll check
[02:11] <salvouy> hello i need the latest repositories for debian, could anyone help me?
[02:11] <salvouy> hello i need the latest repositories for debian-ubuntu, could anyone help me?
[02:13] <echilon> what packages do I need to install to be able to use 'make'?
[02:13] <sudharsh> djp: looks fine to me..
[02:13] <echilon> I just see a load of errors and warning when I try, and the thing doesn't work as it says in the readme
[02:13] <sudharsh> echilon: build-essential, automake
[02:14] <echilon> sudharsh, I have both of those installed
[02:14] <j2daosh> [4295057.999000]  smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported
[02:14] <Burgermann> sudharsh: is there no way installing ubuntu using the online repositories?
[02:14] <j2daosh> what does that mean?
[02:14] <djp> sudharsh, i gather i would need to do that under breezy, whatever webcam i use? it doesn't appear that any work due to the spca5xx bug, straight out of the box
[02:14] <sudharsh> Burgermann: nvr tried that on my dialup cdma connection :)
[02:15] <sudharsh> djp: i guess u r referring to Toma's comments
[02:15] <j2daosh> im trying to mount my network drives and that is the error my syslog is reporting.... anyone know how i can fix it?
[02:16] <azurehuesofblue> anyone know how to turn X server off temporarly thru gnome or something, so I can install my video driver?
[02:16] <sudharsh> djp: if ur lucky..there wont be any probs...i had to compile my own kernel coz of freezing issues i had
[02:16] <K0phein> hi there, i'm looking for a linux distro that supports a Creative Audigy 4 SoundCard. Does Ubuntu have support for it?
[02:16] <sudharsh> azurehuesofblue: try killing the process
[02:16] <K0phein> or where can i find a list of supported hardware?
[02:16] <azurehuesofblue> ok, I'm a newb, what should I type... sigkill xserver or something?
[02:16] <sudharsh> ctrl+shift+f1 ahould land u on a virtual terminal
[02:17] <j2daosh> ok where can i find a list of things mounted on my computer right now... not ones in the fstab... the temp ones i just mounted??
[02:18] <sudharsh> j2daosh: mount
[02:18] <sudharsh> jus plain 'mount'
[02:18] <j2daosh> ok it aint showing the samba drive i just mounted in there... i need the network path and all that so i can add it to my fstab
[02:19] <slvmchn> USB midi controllers on ubuntu?
[02:20] <tatters> what do I do with binary are they like a windows .exe?
[02:21] <azurehuesofblue> you have chmod them first in the command line
[02:21] <M3t4ll1k0> tatters, in console
[02:21] <azurehuesofblue> then ./
[02:21] <M3t4ll1k0> ./
[02:21] <M3t4ll1k0> yes
[02:21] <M3t4ll1k0> xD
[02:21] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need info in using synaptic
[02:22] <tatters> so where do i plae a binary?
[02:22] <pizux> hello
[02:22] <Aragorn_Guardian> i save marks of packages i wanna install/upgrade. is a text file with "package install" lines in it.
[02:22] <pizux> is someone use wired here for music production
[02:22] <Aragorn_Guardian> what comand i use to install those packages, based in this marks, in a console only box?
[02:22] <Aragorn_Guardian> ??
[02:23] <azurehuesofblue> tatters: go to the directory where the .bin file is... type "sudo chmod +x "filename"... then it will do that, then type ./"filename"...
[02:23] <djp> thanks sudharsh
[02:24] <SeerKan> how can i make a ftp on my server ( so i can connect to it trought ftp ) ?
[02:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  sure
[02:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  but ftp is unsafe...prefer ssh always.
[02:25] <tatters> Azure do I choose the file name myself?
[02:25] <SeerKan> Aragorn_Guardian i want to upload some files there... how can i do it with ssh ?
[02:25] <tatters> or replace with name of the file
[02:25] <djp> sudharsh, sorry, one last thing... what packages can i use with a webcam under breezy?
[02:25] <Philip> how do I 'terminal service' from windows to my linux server? (I want to run some of my Linux GUI apps on Windows) I have used cygwin Xserver in the past but that was resource intensive.
[02:25] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[02:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  use scp
[02:25] <ccc_> tatters: no, the filename of the binary
[02:25] <azurehuesofblue> no hehe, you are very new to this... just type whatever the file name is that is already on there.
[02:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  or better, rsync
[02:26] <tatters> lol yup V new to this
[02:26] <azurehuesofblue> I'm new too, it's cool.
[02:26] <ccc_> Aragorn_Guardian: what do you mean? "sudo apt-get install <package>" installs stuff
[02:26] <tatters> ok and if I all that will do what exactly?
[02:27] <azurehuesofblue> see if you can get it to install then come back. :)
[02:27] <linuxboyfriend> i was configuring a package but the configure give this error: "Configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed" can anyone tell me whats wrong? as xmkmf is installed
[02:27] <SeerKan> Aragorn_Guardian i will need some help to lear how to use rsync, if you could give me an example on how do i upload file x from my computer to the server i would understand
[02:28] <azurehuesofblue> tatters:  I don't know enough to walk you through it all
[02:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> ccc_:  nice...but using synaptic, i save my package list. all made in it, works, cause it does dependencies. is possible do the same with apt???
[02:28] <zax1> wonder if any of you wise owls can help a green novice like my self with adding anubuntu machine to a windows workgroup
[02:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> like apt-get -i <mark_file
[02:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> ???
[02:28] <tatters> k thnx,  ill give it shot
[02:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  nice...2 min
[02:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[02:29] <azurehuesofblue> k
[02:29] <Eidan> hi all
[02:29] <Eidan> someone can help me installing nvidia driver on ubuntu flight4?
[02:29] <tatters> so basically it would be like installing a windows package by doing that with a binary?
[02:29] <Eidan> i've no problem whit ubuntu 5.0.1
[02:29] <Eidan> but i'm not abel to installe them on flight4
[02:29] <Eidan> *able to install
[02:30] <zarephath> Eidan: Well since Dapper is still in development it might now have them available yet...see the topic and ask in that channel
[02:30] <zarephath> *not*
[02:30] <Xappe> i'm trying to compile the lates guifications for gaim 2.0cvs but I get this error during make (configure works without errors): http://pastebin.com/581828
[02:30] <Eidan> ok
[02:30] <Eidan> tnx
[02:31] <zax1> any help with linux-windows networking ?
[02:31] <ccc_> Aragorn_Guardian: yes, apt-get displays all dependencies and suggestions.
[02:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> ccc_:  but i can pass a file to it???
[02:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  gonna put it on rafb
[02:32] <zarephath> How can I cut and paste from command line?
[02:32] <fcastelo> Hi
[02:32] <SeerKan> Aragorn_Guardian rafb ?
[02:32] <fcastelo> Is there anyone that could help me on user config after updated
[02:33] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[02:33] <SiriusA> hi, i want to install "nvtv" but adept dont find it. i enabled universe, but its still not there... does someone of you could install it?
[02:33] <djp> can anyone tell me what pakcages i can use with a webcam under breezy?
[02:33] <fcastelo> I lost my user configuration and now could not manage printers
[02:34] <btdown> siriusa its there...u have multiverse enabled? nvtv - Tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux
[02:34] <linuxboyfriend> i was installing a package, the configure give this error: "Configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed" can anyone tell me the solution, moreover xmkmf is alread installed
[02:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> http://rafb.net/paste/results/CF1VNd56.html
[02:35] <fcastelo> See Bug #29326
[02:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  comments welcome
[02:35] <SiriusA> btdown, i have .... wait ill paste my source.list
[02:35] <CineFX3D_> anyone knows how code-completion works in cream?
[02:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  make some tests in tests dirs... ;)
[02:35] <foampeace> hi
[02:36] <foampeace> how do you install a deb with dependencies?
[02:36] <SiriusA> btdown, http://rafb.net/paste/results/a9Me3T93.html
[02:36] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone tell me the solution of that problem
[02:36] <zax1> can any one help me make my ubuntu computer visible to my windows networked computers ?
[02:36] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  sorry...syntax is rs SOURCEDIR user@host:TARGETDIR
[02:36] <Cornu> What would be the best solution to mount partitions (containing big files: xvid,etc ..) on a ubuntu desktop computer from a debian server over a LAN ? NTFS ? Samba ??
[02:37] <CineFX3D_> zax1: install samba
[02:37] <zax1> i think it is installed already
[02:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  i think you need rsync, ssh, scp in one machine, and scp and ssh in another...
[02:38] <zax1> cinefx3d > but my windows computers cant see it
[02:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeamusLP:  you can do amazing things, like copy among two or more hosts... one copyying to another... 8)
[02:39] <SeerKan> Aragorn_Guardian and that code ... i put it where ?
[02:39] <ccc_> Aragorn_Guardian: sorry, "pass a file"? i'm not sure what you mean. perhaps aptitude suit your needs. try "man aptitude" and check the wiki.
[02:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeamusLP:  like...your machine A access B, C is inacessible by A, only by B. you can rsync passing a long line, and sync A to C passing by B. 8)
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  is a shell script
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  only options to rsync commnd. maybe bwlimit is not so useful
[02:40] <drj> guys im trying to connect to glftpd and i keep getting unknown host.. ftp 192.168.0.211:43567
[02:40] <drj> ftp: 192.168.0.211:43567: Unknown host
[02:40] <drj> .  any ideas?
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> ccc_:  thanks..gonna read
[02:41] <zarephath> drJ: Depends...are you forwarding?
[02:41] <drj> im behind nat but im trying to connect form the same box.. do i need o foward the ports for this?  it would be done locally wouldnt it?
[02:41] <zarephath> drj: Nevermind...looks like you are trying to do this inside your LAN
[02:42] <Cornu> drj: did you try 127.0.0.1 ?
[02:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> SeerKan:  good luck...gotta go...
[02:42] <Eidan> hi all
[02:42] <drj> yes cornu.. same
[02:42] <Cornu> hi Eidan
[02:42] <Eidan> hi Cornu
[02:42] <zarephath> drj: First thing to make sure is setup is your hosts files...it is much better to setup ftp server on one machine and try to connect from a different one..
[02:42] <drj> i tried cjubuntu which it the name of the box aswell
[02:43] <Cornu> you probably have a problem with your network configuration, look in your /etc/resolv.conf
[02:44] <drj> does the ftp program with ubuntu only allow me to use port 21?
[02:45] <zomo> hey guyz
[02:45] <zomo> i was gonna install new ubuntu on my box but the base installation failed
[02:46] <zarephath> drj: U can set it up anyway you see fit...
[02:46] <zomo> i need to repair grubg.. is it possible to do so using LIVE CD
[02:46] <drj> mm thought so but thats what someone said might be the problem.. im a semi newbie :)
[02:46] <zomo> lol
[02:46] <Cornu> drj: can you ping 127.0.0.1, the hostame, the IP adresse ?
[02:47] <tatters> anyone know what to do with binary files
[02:47] <mustard5> zomo: its possible yes
[02:47] <zomo> o.0
[02:47] <mustard5> !grub
[02:47] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:47] <_jason> tatters: execute them?
[02:47] <zarephath> As Cornu said...if you can't ping your nic, the hostname, ip address of the ftp server...then there is a connectivity problem..that is where I would look to first
[02:48] <tatters> well how am I spossed to execute them?
[02:48] <zomo> well to open a BIN file we need a cue file
[02:48] <drj> yeh i can ping all 3..
[02:48] <harleyg> startkeylogger
[02:48] <_jason> tatters: /path/to/file.bin
[02:48] <drj>  ping cjubuntu
[02:48] <drj> PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:48] <drj> 64 bytes from localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=...  etc
[02:48] <zarephath> drj: Define all 3? the loopback, ip address, and hostname?
[02:48] <_jason> tatters: assuming they are executable
[02:48] <zarephath> drj: You  only pinged the loopback address...
[02:49] <zarephath> ping the assigned address of you machine
[02:49] <tatters> jason whats the difference between .bin and .sbin where do I place it?
[02:49] <_jason> tatters: an s
[02:49] <tatters> lol
[02:49] <drj> i did the other two aswell..
[02:49] <_jason> tatters: what files are we talking about?
[02:49] <drj> 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.0.211
[02:49] <tatters> so it matters not where it is?
[02:49] <tatters> snort-nline-mysql
[02:50] <_jason> tatters: sbin is usually for administrative stuff
[02:50] <SeerKan> some help pls, i installed vsftpd on my server but i can only log in with anonymous, how can i make it so all the users from my server have ftp access ?
[02:50] <tatters> snort-inline-mysql
[02:50] <btdown> siriusA try my sources list http://rafb.net/paste/results/7FJJDr25.html
[02:50] <zarephath> drj: Ahh..ok then how bout trying ping -c3 192.168.0.211:<your port number>?
[02:50] <drj> ping 192.168.0.211:43567
[02:50] <drj> ping: unknown host 192.168.0.211:43567
[02:51] <zarephath> drj: Ahh..ok then how bout trying ping port 21
[02:51] <Cornu> drj: I assume you set up your ftp server to listen to the port 43567 instead of 21 ?
[02:52] <tatters> well I cd to the directory then /snort-inline-mysql and it sasy no bash command found
[02:53] <_jason> tatters: snort-mysql is in the repositories, is this different?
[02:53] <drj> pinging 192.168.0.211:21 doesnt work..   yes i told glftpd to listen on 43567..
[02:54] <tatters> ye its a binary download  compiiled  with  snort-inline
[02:54] <tatters> not from repos
[02:54] <_jason> tatters: ./file, if you are in the directory
[02:55] <zax1> how do i know if i run a 386 kernel or 686 ?
[02:55] <_jason> zax1: uname -r
[02:55] <tatters> yup tried that got bash command not found
[02:55] <zax1> can u elaborate jason, i am very green
[02:55] <zarephath> zax1: Do you want to know how to know if you need to run one or the other?
[02:55] <_jason> tatters: chmod +x file
[02:56] <tatters> no bash command found
[02:56] <zax1> yes jareph
[02:56] <_jason> zax1: in accessories > terminal, type 'uname -r'.  The last 2 numbers will tell you
[02:56] <tatters> I done that already
[02:56] <_jason> zax1: I mean 3
[02:56] <zax1> k, thanks
[02:56] <_jason> tatters: ls -l, on pastebin please
[02:59] <ptorp> i have a NGS usb showcam plus the system detected but dont work , sy dont have dev/video0
[02:59] <tatters> jason that command should it just list a few lines of txt regarding ddrx etc?
[03:00] <DarKSideS> Hiya guys
[03:00] <shukhrat> Good Day All !
[03:00] <DarKSideS> i was wwonderin If ya could help me real quick
[03:01] <_jason> tatters: yes, if there are too many just do ls -l *snort*
[03:01] <SiriusA> anyone else got nvtv installed?
[03:01] <_jason> DarKSideS: just ask, if someone knows they will try :)
[03:01] <DarKSideS> How can i Use my Ipod on Ubuntu?
[03:01] <shukhrat> i have problem with directory \var\www\
[03:01] <_jason> !ipod
[03:01] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[03:01] <djp> SiriusA, yes. it is in the universe repo
[03:01] <DarKSideS> Woot.
[03:01] <Pasteurized> hi all
[03:02] <djp> SiriusA, i use it to pump movies out to my tv with overscan
[03:02] <djp> SiriusA, i use it with the nv driver
[03:02] <shukhrat> i would like replace .html file with my own in directory \var\www\ but can't why ?
[03:02] <zax1> how do i configure samba on ubuntu ?
[03:02] <tatters_> drwxr-xr-x  3 tatters tatters 4096 2006-03-03 12:16 Desktop   <--that what I got back
[03:02] <SiriusA> djp, could you paste your sources.list? because mine dont work
[03:02] <Ng> !sources
[03:02] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:02] <SiriusA> djp, i enabled universe repo, but its still not there :(
[03:03] <Pasteurized> Is anyone could help me to fix my firefox problem ? It crashed, and dont want to be launch anymore
[03:03] <snowblink> shukhrat, for a start you should be using forward slashes. Assuming those were just typos, then it's a permissions issue.
[03:03] <djp> SiriusA, are you using synaptic?
[03:03] <SiriusA> djp, yes
[03:03] <Pasteurized> either after reinstall or in safe mode "-p"
[03:04] <nixbox> hi all
[03:04] <djp> SiriusA, did you refresh the repo list after enabling the universe repo?
[03:05] <nixbox> i was installing ubuntu on an old machine, after the installation and probably before configuration, the machine got reset, now i can boot into ubuntu but it has a blank xorg.conf file
[03:05] <_jason> tatters: is the snort thing in your home directory?
[03:05] <shukhrat> snowblink: i cound any change in this directory why ?
[03:05] <nixbox> is there an X configuration utility that I can run?
[03:05] <Eidan> ok guys.....
[03:05] <shukhrat> *cound'nt
[03:05] <_jason> nixbox: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:05] <nixbox> thanks
[03:05] <Eidan> i've edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[03:05] <ptorp> i have a NGS usb showcam plus the system detected but dont work , sy dont have dev/video0
[03:06] <SiriusA> djp, yes. i just tried this sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[03:06] <Eidan> this is the output
[03:06] <Eidan> i've a nvidia 6600 GT agp 8x
[03:06] <tatters_> -rwx--x--x  1 tatters tatters 3410313 2006-03-03 12:14 snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql
[03:06] <Eidan> Section "Device"
[03:06] <Eidan> Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x] "
[03:06] <Eidan> Driver "nvidia"
[03:06] <Eidan> BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
[03:06] <Eidan> EndSection
[03:06] <djp> SiriusA, follow these steps... http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#addinguniverse.
[03:06] <Eidan> is correct?
[03:06] <snowblink> shukhrat, probably because you don't have permission to
[03:06] <_jason> Eidan: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[03:06] <Eidan> what is?
[03:06] <setuid> I need to build the _exact_ same kernel that I'm running on Breezy, from source, because /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/ doesn't have a full build tree of modules required for building third-party modules. How can I do this without breaking my running kernel (which includes modules in /lib/modules/volatile, like fglrx)
[03:06] <Cornu> you can past text there to share
[03:06] <ptorp> help
[03:07] <Eidan> oh
[03:07] <Eidan> sorry
[03:07] <shukhrat> snowblink: how get permission ?
[03:07] <_jason> tatters: yes, './snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2' will execute that file
[03:07] <shukhrat> add to group ?
[03:07] <snowblink> shukhrat, man chmod
[03:07] <DarKSideS> this is the thing, Im On live CD.... ubuntu... annddd I cant seem to save to anywhere, im trying to use my ipod to store... but i cant seem to
[03:07] <DarKSideS> any Ideas?
[03:07] <shukhrat> snowblink: in terminal ?
[03:07] <snowblink> !chmod
[03:07] <ubotu> I guess chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[03:07] <Eidan> someone can tell me if is correct my configuration?
[03:08] <Eidan> i've no acceleration..
[03:08] <snowblink> shukhrat, yes, in a terminal
[03:08] <DarKSideS> chmod?
[03:08] <DarKSideS> !chmod?
[03:08] <ubotu> it has been said that chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[03:08] <Eidan> noeone?
[03:09] <Feerx> can anyone give an example of you to use the flags for the date command? like date -d (dosnt work)
[03:09] <Feerx> tere is like 1000 options in the man page but i can get them to work =)
[03:09] <SiriusA> djp, i did that.... look at my sources.list i send you the url... i updatet, but still no luck :(
[03:09] <UBL> date +%d
[03:09] <DarKSideS> so any ideas on Mounting my Ipod?
[03:09] <shukhrat> dear snowblink could you explain little bit wath is this chmod ?
[03:10] <shukhrat> *want
[03:10] <Feerx> UBL: oh.. thanks missed the + sighn
[03:10] <tatters_> jaso sry but how do I  run it , I get bash: snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2: command not found
[03:10] <shukhrat> *what is chmod ?
[03:10] <_jason> tatters: what did you type exactly?
[03:10] <setuid> Anyone know?
[03:10] <setuid> I need to build the _exact_ same kernel that I'm running on Breezy, from source, because /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/ doesn't have a full build tree of modules required for building third-party modules. How can I do this without breaking my running kernel (which includes modules in /lib/modules/volatile, like fglrx)
[03:10] <snowblink> shukhrat, open a terminal. Type in: man chmod. Read it.
[03:11] <tatters_> well I cd to directory / snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2
[03:11] <DarKSideS> snowblink , any idea on how i can Mount my ipod?
[03:11] <_jason> tatters: that's now what I said.  type exactly './
[03:11] <_jason> erm
[03:11] <_jason> tatters: that's now what I said.  type exactly './snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2'
[03:12] <tatters_> do I have to cd to the directory first ?
[03:12] <hatake_kakashi> DarKSideS: generally speaking from Hoary release to later versions (not sure about the Dapper release) it should be able to detect it immediately and show up iPod under the Nautilus window
[03:12] <_jason> tatters: you have to be in the directory it is located
[03:12] <DarKSideS> Im using a live CD, I would think it differ's?
[03:13] <tatters_> tatters@server1:/opt/lampp/sbin$ ./snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2
[03:13] <tatters_> bash: returns No such file or directory
[03:13] <_jason> tatters: what does 'file snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2' say?
[03:13] <Eidan> i've some trouble....
[03:13] <Eidan> root@ubuntu:~# sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:13] <Eidan> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[03:13] <Eidan> :(
[03:14] <hatake_kakashi> DarKSideS: technically no, so long as its not Dapper or else I'm not sure
[03:14] <DarKSideS> Dapper?
[03:14] <Eidan> some one can help me?
[03:14] <hatake_kakashi> !tell DarKSideS about dapper
[03:15] <hatake_kakashi> Eidan: you forgot to install a package before installing the nvidia kernel I presume
[03:15] <tatters_> ERROR: cannot open `snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql2' (No such file or directory)
[03:15] <badzony> i need some help
[03:15] <_jason> tatters: that means you are not in the right directory I guess
[03:15] <Ng> Eidan: have you installed the nvidia-glx package?
[03:15] <DarKSideS> ok, welll that would still need me to store it, any commands i can use, i mean i cant save shit.
[03:15] <Eidan> yes
[03:15] <Eidan> Ng
[03:15] <Eidan> after that i receve that error
[03:15] <DarKSideS> --Delete S&*t
[03:16] <Eidan> what can i do?
[03:16] <Eidan> i'm in dapper flight 4
[03:16] <Eidan> (don't tell me to go in ubuntu+1 no one speak there.. :)
[03:16] <Ng> Eidan: dpkg -L nvidia-glx to see where it is, try running it with the full path
[03:16] <hatake_kakashi> Eidan: did you install nvidia-settings?
[03:16] <Eidan> yes
[03:16] <tatters_> snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, statically linked, not stripped
[03:17] <djp> SiriusA, your sources.list looks fine... i'm stumped... sorry
[03:17] <hatake_kakashi> Eidan: and you followed the instructions from the ubuntu site?
[03:17] <SiriusA> djp, ok, is it maybe because i installed the nvidia drivers manually?
[03:18] <_jason> tatters: now do the ./snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysqlsnort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql.gz
[03:18] <Eidan> yes hatake
[03:18] <_jason> tatters: bah you know what I mean
[03:18] <SiriusA> someone else got "nvtv" installed?
[03:18] <Eidan> and is a fresh installation..
[03:18] <Eidan> what i've to do?
[03:18] <DarKSideS> and my windows is ntsc, so i dont think it would save there.
[03:18] <DarKSideS> :-\
[03:18] <DarKSideS> Damn it
[03:18] <btdown> siriusA heres the sources list again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9672
[03:18] <zax1> how can i add more resolution options ?
[03:18] <hatake_kakashi> DarKSideS: ntfs
[03:19] <hatake_kakashi> DarKSideS: and no, ubuntu wouldn't touch those parts
[03:19] <DarKSideS> yea
[03:19] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, maybe it was a video card :)
[03:19] <btdown> siriusA what does it say when you do a "apt-cache search nvtv"
[03:19] <zax1> i only have 320x240 and 640x480
[03:19] <DarKSideS> NTSC = Film, sorry im tryin to multi task.
[03:19] <DarKSideS> Ummmm So What can I do
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> DarKSideS: check to see if nvidia-glx-config is under /usr/sbin by doing 'which nvidia-glx-config'
[03:20] <tatters_> tatters@server1:/opt/lampp/sbin$ ./snort_inline-2.1.3b-mysql  ->>Segmentation fault
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: ?
[03:20] <zax1> any ideas ?
[03:20] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, the tv standards ntsc pal and so on :-)
[03:21] <_jason> tatters: well you ran it, no figure out why you get a seg fault.  If I were you and really wanted this thing I would compile it from source
[03:21] <xpjiang> man cpu
[03:21] <ompaul> !resolution
[03:21] <_jason> tatters: s/no/now
[03:21] <ubotu> well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:21] <ompaul> zax1, ^^
[03:21] <SiriusA> btdown, no output --> no result
[03:21] <SiriusA> btdown, with your sources.list
[03:21] <zax1> thanks ompaul
[03:21] <S0me1> zax1, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:22] <DarKSideS> which nvidia-glx-config  ... as root?
[03:22] <asdr> can someone tell me if the 386 version recognizes 2 processors
[03:22] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: ah ok
[03:22] <SiriusA> btdown, but i had to comment "deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ breezy-seveas freenx" out
[03:22] <hatake_kakashi> DarKSideS: yes
[03:22] <ompaul> !tell DarKSideS about nvidia
[03:22] <hatake_kakashi> ompaul: it appears DarKSideS has already read that or something
[03:22] <ompaul> DarKSideS, don't know if anyone pushed that towards you alread?
[03:23] <ompaul> hatake_kakashi, ahh
[03:23] <tatters_> k jason thnx, I just cant figure out Y runnig this is not happening nvr tried a bin file bfr so it dont help its not working
[03:23] <zax1> s0mel, i get command not found
[03:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell tatters about compile
[03:23] <DarKSideS> LoL, Ummm dont think so, now, another issue, since it's LIve cd, i never created a root account, what would that be.... cause i pressed enter on pass, and error
[03:23] <SiriusA> btdown, maybe the problem is, that i installed the nvidia driver manually?
[03:23] <zax1> ii run kubuntu, dont know if it makes any diferance
[03:24] <_jason> tatters: grab the source and compile it, the most important step in this process is reading the README and INSTALL files usually included
[03:24] <hatake_kakashi> DarKSideS: and before when I asked you, you said no :P
[03:24] <DarKSideS> hatake_kakashi, What are you talking about man?
[03:24] <hatake_kakashi> ahh ffs I got muddled up :p
[03:25] <ompaul> !tell DarKSideS about root
[03:25] <tatters> Well I beentrying to  avoid  compiling it seems pretty time consuming  but I guess I shall have to learn at some point
[03:25] <btdown> siriusA hrm could be...i've always apt-getted it... sorry.
[03:26] <ompaul> DarKSideS, there is a disabled root by default, so we think like there are super user powers but not used by root read that page I had the bot send you
[03:26] <S0me1> zax1, it's same
[03:26] <S0me1> zax1, it's same
[03:26] <S0me1> zax1, ls /etc/X11
[03:26] <zax1> vi instead of ls ?
[03:27] <zax1> no such file or command
[03:27] <S0me1> zax1, sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:27] <S0me1> you must put sudo
[03:27] <zax1> i did
[03:27] <zax1> i have no x11 directory
[03:28] <btdown> hrm is there an apt-get flag/switch to see what repo a certain package is located in?
[03:28] <DarKSideS> hatake_kakashi, warty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo which nvidia-glx-config
[03:28] <S0me1> zax1, no. X11 not x11
[03:28] <DarKSideS> i aint get no feed back
[03:28] <shukhrat> snowblink: it's not working again
[03:28] <zax1> damn case
[03:28] <shukhrat> snowblink: are u here ?
[03:28] <S0me1> zax1, ubotu gave you nice site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:28] <ompaul> DarKSideS, have you broad band?
[03:28] <DarKSideS> Yea.
[03:28] <ompaul> DarKSideS, get a more modern one
[03:28] <S0me1> zax1, read it please
[03:29] <DarKSideS> I cant
[03:29] <DarKSideS> I cant save.
[03:29] <ompaul> DarKSideS, that has about a months support left
[03:29] <zax1> somel i followed that but with the sam results
[03:29] <shukhrat> snowblink: how isntall midnigth commander ?
[03:29] <zax1> i'll try and stick to right casing...
[03:29] <DarKSideS> i was trying to download, and save to my iPod But nothing.
[03:29] <davro> doe anyone know what the best kernel framebuffer vga setting would be for the resolution of 1440x900 ?
[03:29] <shukhrat> how isntall midnigth commander ? (mc)
[03:29] <shukhrat> *install
[03:29] <davro> sudo apt-get install mc
[03:29] <gnomefreak> any idea how to test 3d accel? direct rendering is yes but my fps is only at 2000 is that normal? i thought higher
[03:29] <DarKSideS> the whole point is for me to get to save files on my iPod
[03:29] <ompaul> DarKSideS, if you have other operating systems we can show you how to write the disk to it
[03:30] <DarKSideS> I Have Windows. But My internet isn't working on it, One reason for me using the Live cd was to get the drivers i need to get that up and running.
[03:31] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: i would use synaptic because im not sure what the package name is
[03:31] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search midnight commander should give you a list of the packages and choose what one you think it is than apt-get install
[03:32] <shukhrat> i need midnight commander ?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: you asked how to install it
[03:32] <gnomefreak> i figured you wanted it
[03:33] <DarKSideS> sooo yea, im left dolo.
[03:33] <shukhrat> is it posible install Midnigth Commander
[03:33] <shukhrat> ?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: yes it is
[03:33] <gnomefreak> should be
[03:33] <Ng> sudo apt-get install mc
[03:33] <shukhrat> how ?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> didnt we just go over this :( shukhrat use the command that ng just gave
[03:35] <SiriusA> ah i think i know why i cant install "nvtv"
[03:35] <SiriusA> because there is no package for amd64
[03:35] <ompaul> shukhrat, it requires you have universe enabled
[03:35] <SiriusA> :(
[03:35] <shukhrat> gnowefreak
[03:35] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: ?
[03:36] <[balayhashi] > if I install kubuntu-desktop i still get to keep gnome , and be able to choose between the two of them in the begining of every session?
[03:36] <DarKSideS> any ideas you guys, im really left with nothing here.
[03:36] <shukhrat> gnowefreak Ubuntu say's Coulnd't  find pakage name mc
[03:36] <badzony> i need help
[03:36] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: i would look into it. there is a command that will allow you to use 32 bit on a 64 kernel i wanna say its chwmod  or something like that
[03:36] <salvouy> i have installed ubuntu 5.10 but never asked me for root password on the installation, just user. now i wanna login as root and am asked for root password, how can i set it up ??
[03:37] <kuja> [balayhashi] : Yeah
[03:37] <shukhrat> ompaul how enable universe
[03:37] <gnomefreak> shukhrat: enable the universe repository
[03:37] <shukhrat> ?
[03:37] <badzony> i need help!!!
[03:37] <DarKSideS> Bleh.
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell shukhrat about universe
[03:37] <kuja> salvouy: Your first account is the root account. The passwords are shared.
[03:37] <DarKSideS> Anyone.
[03:37] <kuja> salvouy: Ubuntu doesn't believe in operating under root.
[03:37] <ompaul> !tell shukhrat about universe
[03:37] <kuja> sudo is to be used as a replacement.
[03:37] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[03:37] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:37] <Makaraki> hello people, what's goin on? Nobady knows if in Linux exists any kind of softw similar to guitar pro?
[03:37] <ompaul> !tell salvouy about root
[03:37] <dabajizz> hello
[03:37] <ompaul> salvouy, please read the message from the bot
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Makaraki: in synaptic ive seena  few but im not sure what guitar pro does
[03:38] <badzony> what is meaning of this TCP/IP fingerprint:
[03:38] <badzony> SInfo(V=3.81%P=i686-pc-linux-gnu%D=3/3%Tm=440861FC%O=21%C=1)
[03:38] <badzony> TSeq(Class=TR%TS=0)
[03:38] <badzony> T1(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=4000%ACK=S++%Flags=AS%Ops=MNWNNT)
[03:38] <badzony> T2(Resp=N)
[03:38] <badzony> T3(Resp=N)
[03:38] <shukhrat> :) thanks it should be work !
[03:38] <badzony> T4(Resp=N)
[03:38] <badzony> T5(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=0%ACK=S++%Flags=AR%Ops=)
[03:38] <badzony> T6(Resp=N)
[03:38] <shukhrat> :) thanks it should be work !
[03:38] <badzony> T7(Resp=N)
[03:38] <badzony> PU(Resp=N)
[03:38] <shukhrat> :) thanks it should  work !
[03:38] <gnomefreak> badzony: please dont paste in here
[03:38] <dabajizz> i  want to lean how to suppot my cleint on
[03:38] <dabajizz> my net work?
[03:38] <Ng> !tell badzony about pastebin
[03:38] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, can you take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9673
[03:39] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, i just found a amd64 package, but it wont install (not ubuntu compatible???) what can i do? -f install dont work also
[03:39] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: can you paste your source.list file on pastebin please
[03:40] <Makaraki> gnomefreak:its for play and edit tablatures in midi format normally you download files and you can play those songs that's more or less what guitar pro does
[03:40] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, sure, one moment
[03:40] <gnomefreak> Makaraki: i would look in synaptic or at packages.ubuntu.com
[03:41] <nalioth> badzony: please use a pastebin in the future
[03:41] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[03:41] <Makaraki> gnomefreak: I will do the same as well
[03:41] <badzony> ok
[03:42] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: your not madpilot are you?
[03:42] <badzony> can u answer now
[03:42] <ompaul> !tell badzony about paste
[03:42] <oskude> omg, another reason to go back to hoary, evolution 2.4 cant disable html mails... LOL ?!
[03:42] <ompaul> badzony, sorry I don't know the reason for it
[03:42] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, if this is a nick, no :)
[03:43] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: i need you to open up /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the contents of it to pastebin
[03:43] <DarKSideS> :-\
[03:43] <DarKSideS> iPod?
[03:43] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, ah i see why you ask... b/c its the one who pasted this
[03:43] <DarKSideS> iPod? anyone
[03:43] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, yes, i use this sources
[03:43] <oskude> i doubt evolution has an irc channel where i can rant :)
[03:43] <oskude> why the f**k does someone want to take away option to disable html mail ?!
[03:44] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, its just about dependecys :(
[03:44] <oskude> i think imm getting to be a novell hater :)
[03:44] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: the versions are not matching and thats why i need to see YOUR list
[03:44] <Cornu> clear
[03:44] <gnomefreak> oskude: it doesnt take much :(
[03:44] <LinuxJones> Morning everybody
[03:44] <ompaul> badzony, I suggest that you paste it in a paste bin with a how you got / detected it and then post the question if someone can help they will, then you have a point of reference if you have to go to a mailing list
[03:44] <DarKSideS> mornin
[03:44] <oskude> ok, who can suggest me a good email client that HAS option to disable html mail rendering ?
[03:44] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, i use THIS list
[03:45] <gnomefreak> oskude: sylpheed
[03:45] <oskude> gnomefreak, noted, thnx
[03:45] <gnomefreak> oskude: im pretty sure it does i havent had to do that tho but thought i saw something about it
[03:46] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, thats the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9674
[03:46] <oskude> gnomefreak, i have read that evo2.2 had it by accident, and 2.4 has it as plugin (has to be compiled with) and may brake things... lol?
[03:46] <irvs10tz> guys, need help here.. i'm installing an x-ms-dos-executable software here.. i already downloaded wine but the set-up won't initiate... need help here....................
[03:47] <gnomefreak> lol oskude
[03:47] <DarKSideS> :\
[03:47] <oskude> yeah, i gotta find out who thinked that noone wants to disable html mail
[03:47] <oskude> that makes me think novell = spammers :)
[03:47] <DarKSideS> Dang it..so there's no solution ppl?
[03:47] <me2win> for what?
[03:48] <DarKSideS> to connect my iPod
[03:48] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: run sudo apt-get update  than run sudo apt-get -f install and let me know what happens but really without seeing you list theres not much i can tell you. because it sounds like you have backports enabled. also are you one breezy?
[03:48] <DarKSideS> while using live CD
[03:48] <Zoroaster> a defrag utility in Ubuntu?  does one exist?
[03:48] <Morg> When I first start Firefox, right click on a link and do Save As, I get the Save As menu, but then the original right-click menu shows up again too. Anyone else have this problem?
[03:48] <erUSUL> Zoroaster, no need for one
[03:49] <me2win> DarKSideS, no
[03:49] <me2win> Morg, yes
[03:49] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, im on breezy, i updated, and i will post you my sources i used before... (i changed them to the one i send to you)
[03:49] <Morg> me2win: Know if there's any way to fix it? Sometimes the browser crashes when I do a Save As.
[03:49] <DarKSideS> any way i can create a partition On a ntfs drive?
[03:49] <Zoroaster> erUSUL, so, the linux file system never gets fragmented?
[03:49] <DarKSideS> while using live cd?
[03:50] <Spliffster> hi room, has anyone expected the "configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables." error of configure with ubuntu ? (gcc is installed)
[03:50] <me2win> Morg, not sure, I think it's just a buh
[03:50] <me2win> bug*
[03:50] <erUSUL> Zoroaster, such a little that it does not represent a problem
[03:50] <trappist> Spliffster: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:50] <oskude> how i love these corporate websites, so easy to find an email address...
[03:50] <Spliffster> trappist: ty, will try
[03:50] <me2win> Spliffster, do you have build-essential?
[03:51] <me2win> nvm, he helped you
[03:51] <EricNeon> hi all~
[03:51] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9675
[03:51] <Spliffster> me2win: doesn't look lik ... some stuff is beeing installed now ...
[03:51] <Zoroaster> erUSUL, thanks for the info
[03:51] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9674
[03:52] <erUSUL> Zoroaster, np
[03:52] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, im on amd64
[03:52] <DarKSideS> .?
[03:52] <DarKSideS> partitioning?
[03:52] <Spliffster> trappist, me2win: that's it. thank you guys, i owe you a c(_)!
[03:52] <Spliffster> cheers
[03:53] <me2win> Spliffster, np
[03:53] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: your sourceslist looks nothing like the one you posted before
[03:54] <gnomefreak> you need to use mad pilots list if that was your full list you gave me you have alot of work to do with it
[03:54] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, yes as i told you, i changed it to the one madpilot posted
[03:54] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, to check out, if this solve the problem
[03:55] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: the one you showed me is nothing like madpilots list so if you opened /etc/apt/sources.list as i asked you too you would see the real sources list
[03:56] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, uhm, we'r stuck on this one :) i took madpilots list, and pasted it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:56] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, the updated
[03:56] <SiriusA> *then
[03:56] <irvs10tz> guys, need help here.. i'm installing an x-ms-dos-executable software here.. i already downloaded wine but the set-up won't initiate... need help here....................
[03:56] <bigmoe> anyone knows how rdesktop is
[03:57] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: look for me too help you i would need to see it if you dont paste it to pastebin find someone else to help you under your conditions
[03:57] <bigmoe> used
[03:57] <DarKSideS> can we Partiton a drive Using LiveCd?
[03:57] <sudharsh> irvs10tz: 16bit app??
[03:57] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, uhm, ok wait
[03:57] <sudharsh> DarKSideS: better still download the gparted live cd
[03:57] <zeedo> bigmoe: man rdesktop or run grdeskdtop or run tsclient
[03:58] <DarKSideS> that would be awwwesome, but i cant save it man,// idk how to mount my iPod
[03:58] <slavik-lt> I want to compile xsupplicant and it needs the cryptolibrary, what is the nameof the cryptolibrary?
[03:58] <slavik-lt> !xsupplicant
[03:58] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slavik-lt
[03:59] <DarKSideS> !mounting ipod
[03:59] <ubotu> DarKSideS: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:59] <gnomefreak> !mount
[03:59] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[03:59] <sudharsh> DarKSideS: i do hav a mp3 player...it gets detected automaically..mounts itself in /media/usbdisk
[03:59] <oskude> so, sent a rant email to novell :) asking why they removed "disable html rendering"
[03:59] <DarKSideS> i tried , Nothing.
[03:59] <oskude> i doubt they answer, but i feel better :)
[03:59] <sudharsh> DarKSideS: try 'mount /dev/sda1'
[03:59] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9677
[03:59] <slavik-lt> I want to compile xsupplicant and it needs the crypto library, what is the name of the crypto library?
[03:59] <sudharsh> wait a sec..else see if banshee helps
[04:00] <DarKSideS> warty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo mount /dev/sda1
[04:00] <DarKSideS> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:00] <sudharsh> u did plug in ur ipod..didnt u
[04:00] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: the command is apt-get -f install  (no package name )
[04:01] <bigmoe> can i use rdesktop like program but without GUI
[04:01] <sudharsh> !ipod
[04:01] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[04:01] <DarKSideS> yea
[04:01] <gnomefreak> just use apt-get -f install
[04:01] <sudharsh> hey ubotu knows somethin..tried that wiki page?
[04:01] <Morg> I found a fix for that Save As thing if anyone's interested.
[04:01] <slavik-lt> ubotu, tell meabout open1x
[04:02] <bigmoe> zeedo: can i use rdesktop like program but without GUI
[04:02] <oskude> i wonder if evolution2.4 also parses javascript...
[04:02] <sudharsh> slavik-lt: ubotu is a bot :)
[04:02] <sudharsh> !openlx
[04:02] <ubotu> sudharsh: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:02] <filleokus_> Hi, how stable is Ubuntu 6.04, is it worth getting instead of 5.04
[04:02] <oskude> filleokus_, no.
[04:02] <filleokus_> im using arch now, and want to test ubuntu (again)
[04:02] <filleokus_> ok
[04:02] <sudharsh> filleokus_: not now..wait till april
[04:02] <badzony> how i can scan with nmap another network, i am 192.168.31.xxx and target is 10.194.31.xxx?
[04:02] <bigmoe> Kubuntu is 6.04
[04:02] <Morg> me2win: You had that problem too, right?
[04:03] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, hmhm now he wants to DEINSTALL nvtv.... maybe because i tried before to install the pacakge via dpgk?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> filleokus_: go with 5.10
[04:03] <Mandible> 5.10 is very stable
[04:03] <nalioth> badzony: use nmapfe
[04:03] <filleokus_> oh ok 5.10 mybad
[04:03] <Mandible> 6.04 will be stable in another month
[04:03] <ompaul> filleokus_, please talk about that in #ubuntu+1 :-) 5.10 is the stabe version
[04:03] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: let it do what it needs to
[04:03] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, ok, its done
[04:03] <oskude> how long does hoary still have updates ?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: now is nvtv in the repos?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> oskari: 18 months
[04:03] <SiriusA> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9678
[04:03] <oskari> #ubuntu-fi
[04:04] <ompaul> oskude, 18 months starting last april
[04:04] <sudharsh> oskude: 18 months
[04:04] <gnomefreak> it will get updates until oct
[04:04] <oskude> thnx, maybe ill go back hoary..
[04:04] <filleokus_> Hmm, i386 is the way to go for amd64? i dont get that mouch extra power or, with amd64 version?
[04:04] <badzony> nmapfe command not found
[04:04] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9678
[04:04] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, and thx for the help btw.
[04:05] <oskude> hmm, or debian stable. it has still evolution lower than 2.4...
[04:05] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: run the comand apt-cache search nvtv let me know if its in the repos
[04:05] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, no its not
[04:05] <M_A_K> Is there a network profile switcher similar to quickswitch for Ubuntu?  I am not happy with the current methd of switching profiles.
[04:06] <slavik-lt> where do I get the crypto library?
[04:06] <bigmoe> gnomefreak: is there a remote login program without the GUI
[04:06] <gnomefreak> i have nvtv in my repos :)
[04:06] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: run apt-cache search nvtv
[04:06] <Belea_> i can make a firewall to let only a few programs to go..  not ports..  just programs ?
[04:06] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, i did.... no output
[04:06] <gnomefreak> bigmoe: i dont know
[04:07] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, maybe there is no amd64 package?
[04:07] <gnomefreak> !info nvtv
[04:07] <ubotu> nvtv: (Tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.4.7-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 236 kB, Installed size: 948 kB
[04:07] <slavik-lt> !crypto
[04:07] <ubotu> slavik-lt: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:07] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: its in breezy
[04:07] <ompaul> oskude,  edit preferences, and choose mail preferences and look at the tabs
[04:07] <ompaul> oskude,  and I don't use that program
[04:07] <luite> slavik-lt: libssl / libssl-dev
[04:07] <_jason> SiriusA: you're right, only packages for 386 packages.ubuntu.com
[04:07] <oskude> ompaul, ?
[04:07] <zax1> my booting process hangs after  * checking battery state
[04:07] <badzony> nalioth: nampfe command not found
[04:07] <gnomefreak> good reason than :)
[04:08] <SiriusA> :(
[04:08] <gnomefreak> _jason: what about chown it?
[04:08] <_jason> SiriusA: although dapper seems to have amd64 packages
[04:08] <nalioth> badzony: spelling is a plus.  n m a p f e
[04:08] <ompaul> oskude, you asked how to turn off html mail
[04:08] <zax1> i was following advice bout reconfiguring my xserver-corg, and now it does not boot at all
[04:08] <slavik-lt> ty luite
[04:08] <zax1> can any one help with that ?
[04:08] <SiriusA> _jason, is there a way to compile it from sources?
[04:08] <oskude> ompaul, hmm, it works with evolution 2.4 ?
[04:08] <_jason> SiriusA: probably
[04:08] <badzony> yeah nmapfe
[04:08] <SiriusA> gnomefreak, chown means to run i386 packages on amd64?
[04:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell badzony about repos
[04:09] <nalioth> badzony: enable your universe and multiverse repo
[04:09] <Davey`> SiriusA: no... it means to set the owner and optionally group of a file
[04:09] <_jason> SiriusA: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=33758
[04:09] <Davey`> (or files)
[04:09] <zax1> uboto: tell zax1 how to flipping fix his computer!
[04:09] <oskude> ompaul, i didnt ask. i just didnt found the option anymore, and www said its removed in 2.4...
[04:09] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: its a command not sure what they do with it i dont run 64bit
[04:09] <bigmoe> is there a remote login program without the GUI
[04:09] <gnomefreak> bigmoe: as in ssh?
[04:10] <ompaul> oskude, well www is not right for 5.10 version (2.4.1)
[04:10] <Ng> SiriusA: I think you mean chroot
[04:10] <zax1> !tell  zax1 how to flipping fix his computer
[04:10] <gnomefreak> Ng: thats my fault
[04:10] <ompaul> oskude, where on www did you find that
[04:10] <oskude> ompaul, you mean there IS an option for it, where ?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> and yes chroot would be it
[04:10] <SiriusA> _jason, thx, theres the source
[04:10] <ompaul> oskude, I already told you one moment please
[04:10] <ompaul> oskude,  edit preferences, and choose mail preferences and look at the tabs  <<-- there
[04:10] <bigmoe> gnomefreak: i'll try it
[04:11] <SiriusA> _jason, but it says "architecture" = i386, can i build it?
[04:11] <slavik-lt> what package has yacc?
[04:11] <zax1> my booting process hangs after  * checking battery state  was following advice bout reconfiguring my xserver-corg, and now it does not boot at all, to top it all iam as green as they come and dont have a clue on how to sort any of it again
[04:11] <slavik-lt> there are 4 that synapticshows
[04:11] <ompaul> oskude, where on www did you find that, this is wrong information and so should be changed
[04:11] <_jason> SiriusA: where?
[04:11] <nalioth> slavik-lt: install bison
[04:11] <zax1> is there a way to quickly REinstall it ? or fixInstall it ?
[04:12] <slavik-lt> nalioth: ty
[04:12] <oskude> ompaul, im searching where i found that.. and please show me where to disable html rendering
[04:12] <_jason> SiriusA: oh I see, umm strange.  Maybe you should contact the person that built the amd64 pacakges, or grab the source for the dapper amd64 packages and take a look
[04:12] <SiriusA> _jason, ok thx alot
[04:12] <oskude> ompaul, http://www.nabble.com/2.4.2.1-and-html-mail-t1077578.html
[04:13] <zax1> help :'(
[04:14] <ompaul> oskude, in mail preferences you can stop reading it, and in composer preferences you can stop yourself sending it
[04:14] <SiriusA> _jason, who is the roadmap for dapper? is there any release date?
[04:14] <ompaul> !dapper
[04:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, dapper is pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! >/join #ubuntu+1< for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[04:14] <SiriusA> ubotu, thx :)
[04:14] <ubotu> SiriusA: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:14] <gnomefreak> SiriusA: its ubotu thanks :)
[04:14] <oskude> ompaul, so i go where ? account - edit - ?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> brb
[04:15] <bigfoot1> Using Soundconverter, the minimum bitrate i can make mp3s is 64. How can i get it lower (to save space)?
[04:15] <oskude> ompaul, i just cant find it... got a screen shot or so ?
[04:16] <oskude> ompaul, are you just quessing or do you have evolution 2.4 there that has disable html ?
[04:17] <ompaul> oskude,  edit preferences, mail preferences there is a tab with html that is one job, let me know when you find that
[04:17] <oskude> ompaul, im in "HTML Mail"
[04:18] <oskude> ompaul, im in "Mail Preferences" - "HTML Mail"
[04:18] <_usama> plz help me http://pastebin.com/581942
[04:18] <ompaul> now if you don't want to sent html mail you don't have the second box checked
[04:18] <ompaul> oskude,  now if you don't want to sent html mail you don't have the second box checked
[04:18] <oskude> ompaul, hmm i ment RENDERING hmtl...
[04:19] <oskude> ompaul, i dont want to see those pix300 text spams...
[04:19] <mihai_> i have installed the openssh-server and i've configured it for port 2000. ussualy i use ssh user@host to connect, but this takes by default port 22. what command should i use in order to create a succesful connection ?
[04:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> how can i find out what's using my sound card?
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> mihai_: -p 2000
[04:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> ssh -p 2000 user@server
[04:20] <gnomefreak> the wiki for xgl needs to be changed
[04:20] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser:  lspci should tell you the soundcard you have
[04:20] <linuxboyfriend> l
[04:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> gnomefreak: I'm wondering whtas using it, not what it is :)
[04:21] <CarlFK> is there an apt-get command to install the source of some package?
[04:21] <Nebu> salve a tutti, ho trovato questa stanza sul sito ubuntu.mondonerd.com , qualcuno  cos gentile da darmi qualche spiegazione su ubuntu, non ci capisco gran che e non riesco a installarlo sul pc
[04:21] <ompaul> oskude, now I understand your question, as yet I don't have an answer
[04:22] <oskude> ompaul, doh
[04:22] <CarlFK> Nebu: /join #ubuntu-es ?
[04:22] <oskude> as i said its removed, and i cant think why...
[04:22] <S0me1> Kamping_Kaiser, lspci -v
[04:23] <CarlFK> Kamping_Kaiser: lsof
[04:23] <tritium_> That's not Spanish.
[04:23] <_jason> CarlFK: apt-get source
[04:23] <Nebu> carlFK ok
[04:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> CarlFK: tried that
[04:23] <gnomefreak> looks it to me
[04:23] <_jason> it maybe?
[04:23] <S0me1> Kamping_Kaiser, or dmeg
[04:23] <gnomefreak> IT
[04:23] <gnomefreak> italian*
[04:23] <tritium_> yes
[04:23] <gnomefreak> !it
[04:23] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:24] <gnomefreak> oskude: put dell in there too they suck with support :(
[04:24] <Nebu> ok ubot, grazie, scusate
[04:24] <badders> Afternoon all.
[04:25] <oskari> #suomi
[04:25] <zAo^> lo badders
[04:25] <oskari> #windows
[04:25] <pulver> hey! what do u have to type to compile gftp with ssl support? did a 'sudo apt-get source gftp'. what should the ./configure line be like?
[04:25] <oskude> gnomefreak, but they books rock (disassebmbling with manuals) is like a charm (atleas latitude c800 and cp233)
[04:26] <navaneeth> how to change resolution of login screen?
[04:26] <gnomefreak> i never seena  manual for my pc so i wouldnt know :(
[04:26] <fek_> moin
[04:26] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: you change the imamge :( i havent found a way for res
[04:26] <gnomefreak> image*
[04:26] <pulver> the default ubuntu gftp dosen't have ssl support =/
[04:26] <tritium_> pulver: it already has it.  Don't recompile it!
[04:26] <S0me1> navaneeth, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:27] <CarlFK> _jason: apt-get source - thanks
[04:27] <S0me1> navaneeth, and try gnome-display-properties
[04:27] <pulver> tritium_: it has? how do u activate it then?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> S0me1: that will fix res in gnome not gdm
[04:28] <tritium_> pulver: you just use it
[04:29] <oskude> lol? apt-cache search email client gives me 4 results...
[04:29] <gnomefreak> although you might beable to open the config file for the gdm (if there is a seprate one) and edit it that way
[04:29] <ompaul> oskude, no idea, but frankly as it is already on the machine at that stage why be worried about it?
[04:30] <S0me1> gnomefreak, thanks mate
[04:30] <oskude> ompaul, ? cant compute
[04:30] <badders> whats peoples current solution for sharing certain folders (mozilla profile/documents whatever) across a few different machines (specifically 3 for me) with offline operation? I have a central server (4th machine) i can use, but the offline operation is vital. iFolder looks promising but looks a pita to set up
[04:30] <gnomefreak> S0me1: yw
[04:30] <ompaul> oskude, be better if the anti spam kit took it out and left it so you could not see it
[04:30] <bigfoot1> i have a 128kbps mp3 file. how can i shrink it down to 32 kbps?
[04:31] <dan_> How do i get a bluetooth dongle to work?
[04:31] <oskude> ompaul, no thats not an option for me i WANT disabling html...
[04:31] <ompaul> oskude, I use 5.10 with thunderbird, so that is not an issue for me it occurs as you want it
[04:31] <oskude> ompaul, does thunderbird have disable html rendering ?
[04:31] <pulver> tritium_:  im trying to login using gftp (gui version) but it says that i have to use encryption then disconnects
[04:32] <tritium_> pulver: are you selecting sftp as the protocol before you connect?
[04:33] <pulver> tritium_: nope how do u do that :)
[04:33] <ompaul> oskude, let me look, my spam trap tends to grab it all
[04:33] <oskude> ompaul, :)
[04:33] <oskude> ompaul, i dont trust spam traps...
[04:33] <tritium_> pulver: there's a little drop-down in the upper right corner where you select the protocol
[04:34] <oskude> ompaul, and sometimes there are allso funny spams :)
[04:34] <oskude> ompaul, to me its like commercials in tv, they amuse me...
[04:35] <oskude> alone the thought there are people who pay for that crap, lmao
[04:36] <pulver> tritium_: oh i need glasses lol.. anyway i don't see sftp in it, well i did removed gftp before when messing around...
[04:36] <oskude> ompaul, dont need to search for the html thing in thunderbird, ill give it a try
[04:36] <tritium_> pulver: it might list ssh rather than sftp
[04:37] <blekos> hi,
[04:37] <zAo^> who can help me with a dhcp-'problem' ?
[04:37] <tarwin> hey, whoa, I just installed Ubuntu and I'm really really impressed
[04:37] <tarwin> guess, I'll stick to it!
[04:37] <zAo^> in /etc/resolv.conf I get "search lan" as the first line, but I dont want this one :)
[04:37] <oskude> tarwin, welcome to the club :)
[04:37] <tritium_> rock on, tarwin :0
[04:37] <tritium_> :)
[04:37] <blekos> openoffice2 -last nigts update- is not running ok, in gnome, while in kde fine
[04:37] <tarwin> this was so smooth and easy
[04:38] <tarwin> years of SUSE are nearly forgotten ;)
[04:38] <Feerx> how do i put a result of at command onto a variable in a shell script.. user="U_VAR" dosnt really work =)
[04:39] <tritium_> Feerx: you can use `` or $().  e.g., sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) uses the command "uname -r"
[04:40] <oskude> Feerx, this is ver usefull http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[04:40] <gnomefreak> why cant i find a testing tool for 3d :(
[04:40] <pulver> tritium_: ok.. ssh2 is there.. is that the one? selecting it says something about initiating protocol when trying to login and then the program hangs
[04:40] <Feerx> tritium_: dont really get that ether =) edit my command so V_VAR get the user name
[04:40] <tonyyarusso_work> I need to extract one of four images from an animated gif and save it separately; can someone help me do that in Gimp?
[04:41] <Ng> tonyyarusso_work: gimp loads animgifs such that each frame is a layer, simply copy the layer you want to a new image, or something like that
[04:41] <tritium_> pulver: yes, ssh2.  What do you know about the other end you're trying to connect to?
[04:41] <vnrat> what's ur enviroiment
[04:41] <vnrat> u r current
[04:41] <tonyyarusso_work> Ng: Okay, I'll see if I can manage that.
[04:42] <ryan> can I ask a technical question here?
[04:42] <oskude> !ask
[04:42] <vnrat> k
[04:42] <ryan> I've got a problem with my printer
[04:42] <vnrat> and .. ?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso_work> Ng: How do I isolate layers in the first place?
[04:42] <JesterFred> u
[04:42] <ryan> I tried to install the native hplip driver
[04:42] <ryan> and since then I can't print anymore
[04:42] <tritium_> Feerx: which command are you  using?
[04:43] <ryan> I'ts a hp psc 1610
[04:43] <ryan> and I removed the hplip driver
[04:43] <tritium_> Feerx: your user name should be stored in the env. var. USER
[04:43] <ryan> and reinstalled cupsys and some librarys
[04:44] <Feerx> tritium_: using date +%A  and want to ad it to D_VAR
[04:44] <ryan> after deleting the config files bud it didn't work
[04:44] <JesterFred> Does the Ubuntu team produce any BIGMEM linux kernels for those of us with more then 2 Gig memory?  I do not see any in the normal repositories.
[04:44] <oskude> ryan, i got a HP psc1200, and i had to add it first in System - administration - printing, and for ooo2 i had to run "oopadmin2"
[04:44] <SeerKan> !find mc
[04:44] <pulver> tritium_: heh thats me too trying to run vsftpd with ssl and connect to it works fine with secureftp
[04:44] <SeerKan> !info mc
[04:44] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[04:44] <vnrat> so
[04:44] <oskude> ryan, but i didnt have to do anything in oopadmin2, it was there after i just launched that program...
[04:44] <ryan> I'ts there " System - administration - printing, " where it can't find it anymore
[04:44] <tritium_> pulver: ah, okay.
[04:45] <vnrat> i want to install
[04:45] <ryan> and I reinstalled that, too
[04:45] <SeerKan> a question ... apt-get install mc or apt-get install mc.1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 ?
[04:45] <oskude> ryan, mine was not automaticly found neither (but in hoary it was:) so i had to add it manuall
[04:45] <tritium_> Feerx: I do recommend you read the howto that oskude suggested
[04:45] <ryan> well in the dialog is no recognized printer
[04:46] <ryan> but befor I could add it there
[04:46] <ryan> (before the hplip-thing)
[04:46] <lesshaste> anyone here speak polish?
[04:46] <oskude> ryan, i didnt have it neither in "recognized printer"
[04:46] <ryan> well, what should I choose?
[04:46] <pulver> tritium_: do you know any dependencies for gftp that i might have messed up that is needed for this to work?
[04:46] <ryan> network-printer?
[04:46] <SeerKan> a question ... apt-get install mc or apt-get install mc.1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 ?
[04:47] <tritium_> pulver: it if installed, its dependencies were satisfied
[04:47] <oskude> ryan, local - use another ... port, usb - and then select the driver
[04:47] <tonyyarusso_work> Ng: Okay, I was able to figure out how to drag the layers apart, but I can't seem to change the focus to the one I want so I can copy it.  Do you know?
[04:47] <Manny> I have to convert an rpm to a deb package. http://www.fship.com/demos/rpm2targz an do rpm ->tgz but it requires rpmoffset which I haven't installed
[04:47] <ryan> usb printer 1?
[04:47] <SeerKan> i tryed sudo apt-get install mc and it tells me he can't find the Packaged
[04:48] <ryan> therre are 1 - 16
[04:48] <pulver> tritium_: ok, well thanks for your help, its  a bit clearer to me now
[04:48] <gnomefreak> SeerKan: make sure you have universe enabled
[04:48] <oskude> ryan, i took usb1
[04:48] <Manny> is this the right route, i.e. compile http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware_source/a/bin/rpmoffset.c additionally?
[04:48] <SeerKan> gnomefreak universe ?
[04:48] <Telarian02> Hello, I'm a linux newbie and ubuntu is my first distro, I have a linksys USB nic and everything i can find on the web says you have to unplug and plug it in to get it to work....anyone know how i can activate it at startup?
[04:48] <SeerKan> how do i enable it ?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> !universe
[04:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:48] <Burgermann> Hi. I really need some help installing Ubuntu. My CD-ROM drive is failing during the installation :S. I got so far that I could enter a mirror, but it seems it still want's to install from CD :(
[04:48] <tritium_> pulver: not sure why it's not working for you...
[04:49] <ryan> Isn't working
[04:49] <ryan> can't even print a testpage
[04:49] <oskude> Burgermann, put a "#" before the line "cdrom:..." in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:49] <tonyyarusso_work> Burgermann: Those sound like different problems...could you clarify?  Does the drive fail, or does it get confused and use the CD instead of the net connection?
[04:49] <oskude> ryan, is your priner on, was there a right driver for you printer there ?
[04:50] <ryan> jup
[04:50] <ryan> as I sead
[04:50] <ryan> before it worked
[04:50] <ryan> with the psc 1600 driver
[04:50] <ryan> and it was in the recognized printer field
[04:50] <Fub> my sound has died
[04:50] <Fub> anyone has any idea what is wrong?
[04:50] <dan_> how to i send stuff to my phone with a bluetooth dongle?
[04:51] <Burgermann> tonyyarusso_work. The drive fails, since it's an old laptop. I've downloaded a mirror but everytime I get to the step 'Install base system' in about 30-70% it fails. :( If I could only install through the internet instead of CD
[04:51] <SeerKan> gnomefreak how can i verify if i have or not universe ?
[04:51] <oskude> ryan, hmm, did you allready reboot, or reconnect the printer...
[04:51] <Telarian02> Can anyone help with the usb wireless nic?
[04:51] <ryan> yes, more than once
[04:51] <Burgermann> tonyyarusso_work: I was hoping there was a way to use the CD for boot, but install from the internet
[04:51] <ryan> and the hp-info tool recognizes him
[04:51] <oskude> Burgermann, i hope theres an option somewhere to test that the cd is okay...
[04:51] <ryan> the printer
[04:52] <Burgermann> oskude: I don't think my drive can read the entire CD
[04:52] <ryan> without problems
[04:52] <oskude> ryan, hmm, i have a fresh breezy installation and i just had to add the printer, worked (didnt install any extra packages)
[04:52] <christian_> hooooooooooooollla
[04:52] <gabrielmacedo___> hey.. myt Breezy dont open the lan ports.. i just use the 80.. the IM programs running but dont conect...
[04:52] <ryan> Well, for me it worked at the beginning too
[04:52] <Mattia> ragazzi salve
[04:53] <Burgermann> oskude: Hmn. Now it says that the file ./.disk/base_components had a wrong md5 check sum :S
[04:53] <DarKSideS> :(
[04:53] <ryan> until I tried something out
[04:53] <Mattia> avrei un problema chi mi aiuta fentilmente?
[04:53] <ryan> with hplip
[04:53] <oskude> Burgermann, so maybe there went something wrong in download or burn process..
[04:53] <christian_> why?????
[04:53] <DarKSideS> ppl ANYWAY to connect my iPod
[04:53] <Telarian02> burgermann: i had to boot on my primary cdrom but it wouldn't install so i had a second cd in slave and installed off of that
[04:53] <DarKSideS> ??
[04:53] <tonyyarusso_work> Burgermann: Hmm.  I know of places to point you to for entirely CD free install, I wonder if they would help?
[04:53] <gabrielmacedo___> hey.. myt Breezy dont open the lan ports.. i just use the 80.. the IM programs running but dont conect... How i correct this? i dont install firewalls..
[04:53] <tritium_> !ipod
[04:53] <oskude> is there a NETINSTALL cd for ubuntu  ? (like debian has)
[04:53] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[04:53] <Burgermann> tonyyarusso_work: that would be nice :)
[04:54] <tonyyarusso_work> oskude: I don't think so specifically, but there's some information...
[04:54] <tonyyarusso_work> !networkinstall
[04:54] <ubotu> Install without a cdrom, recommended for people with broadband https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[04:54] <ryan> Is there another way to configure cups with ubuntu
[04:54] <ryan> ?
[04:54] <oskude> netboot is too much hassle for me (as i never did that)
[04:54] <tritium_> ryan: the gnome print tool
[04:54] <SeerKan> how can i verify if i have or not universe ?
[04:54] <oskude> love that debian 50mb businesscard iso image...
[04:54] <tonyyarusso_work> Burgermann: It's gotta be possible, I'm just not quite sure how.
[04:55] <ryan> The gnome-print-tool isn't working
[04:55] <ryan> anymore
[04:55] <tritium_> what happened to it?
[04:55] <DarKSideS> is there anything i can do to better my Situation?
[04:55] <ryan> well
[04:55] <Burgermann> tonyyarusso_work: thx for the tip. I'll try and figure it out :)
[04:55] <Telarian02> I'm still looking for help with a linksys USB wireless nic card???
[04:55] <LjL> oskude: yeah, me too. but i haven't found anything like that for ubuntu
[04:55] <ryan> I compiled hplip
[04:55] <ryan> and installed it
[04:55] <oskude> LjL, roger
[04:55] <SeerKan> how can i verify if i have or not universe please?
[04:55] <ryan> but it dind't work
[04:56] <Nermal> lo lo
[04:56] <ryan> and now it doesn't recognize the printer anymore
[04:56] <Nermal> lo lo :)
[04:56] <oskude> SeerKan, look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <ryan> even though i reinstalled cupsys and some other print-related tools
[04:56] <LjL> SeerKan: try "apt-cache show outguess", if it does show a package and doesn't say "not found", you have it
[04:56] <ryan> after uninstalling the hplip
[04:56] <LjL> SeerKan: (that's just a random package from universe i happen to be looking at right now)
[04:56] <oskude> SeerKan, or you should allso see it while doing apt-get update
[04:57] <ryan> but the hp-tools (hp-info, hp-levels) recognize the printer
[04:58] <linuxboyfriend> plz help me http://pastebin.com/581942
[04:58] <LjL> how come that, when i try to connect to jabber.org (using Kopete, SSL mode), it complains that the certificate is invalid? from what i've been able to google, the certifying authority for jabber.org *is* listed in my KDE Crypto settings
[04:58] <ardchoille> A friend gave me a webcam. What can I do with it? Which apps work with it?
[04:59] <S0me1> linuxboyfriend, try !
[04:59] <ardchoille> never had a web cam before
[04:59] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: try "sudo aptitude install x-window-system-dev"
[04:59] <gnomefreak> !webcam
[04:59] <ubotu> webcam is, like, totally, now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[04:59] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: thanks :)
[04:59] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:59] <oskude> omg, aptitude
[05:00] <Telarian02> still needing advice on USB wifi nic???
[05:00] <funkyHat> oskude, is that ok? :P
[05:00] <gnomefreak> how can i test the 3d accel it seems low to me is there something i can view in 3d that 2d wont allow you to view?
[05:00] <ryan> it's a hp psc 1610
[05:00] <ryan> usb
[05:00] <oskude> i use allways apt-get...
[05:01] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, glxgears
[05:01] <tritium_> aptitude has some nice advantages
[05:01] <LjL> oskude: then i suggest you give aptitude a chance.
[05:01] <Profichilla> How can I change the OSS default sound device?
[05:01] <gnomefreak> funkyHat: 2d can view them
[05:01] <DarKSideS> iPod working on unbuntu live cd?
[05:01] <DarKSideS> !ubuntu
[05:01] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[05:01] <linuxboyfriend> LjL: is that OK http://pastebin.com/582016
[05:01] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, 3ddesk
[05:01] <gnomefreak> my fps is around 2000 it seems low
[05:01] <oskude> dont want to start a flamewar, i use apt-get.
[05:02] <funkyHat> I use apt-get because it's easier to type
[05:02] <oskude> apt-get worked for allways, so i dont need anything else...
[05:02] <hantar> gaim-vv  and gaim are compatible?
[05:02] <oskude> +me
[05:02] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: no, it doesn't seem very right. does "apt-cache policy x-window-system-dev" show anything under "Installed:" ?
[05:03] <M_A_K> Does anybody know of a good graphical system tray network profile switcher for ubuntu?
[05:03] <oskude> and aptitude is an frontend for apt-get anyway...
[05:03] <LjL> funkyHat: i use "apt" because it's even easier ;)
[05:03] <gnomefreak> ok installing now ty funkyHat
[05:03] <tritium_> oskude: yes, but it can do things apt-get can't
[05:03] <LjL> oskude: aptitude is not a frontend for apt-get
[05:03] <gnomefreak> aptitude is supposed to handle depends better
[05:03] <oskude> and has more places for failures...
[05:04] <oskude> LjL, it uses also apt-cache ?
[05:04] <oskude> apt-cache show aptitude...
[05:04] <LjL> oskude: aptitude uses neither apt-get nor apt-cache afaik
[05:04] <linuxboyfriend> LjL: http://pastebin.com/582024
[05:04] <oskude> as i said i dont want a flamewar, anyone whould use what he wants...
[05:05] <tritium_> of course, oskude
[05:05] <LjL> oskude: of course. just remember that aptitude is *not* a front-end to apt-get, that's just false
[05:05] <BSDinux> aint aptitude just a gui for apt-get?
[05:05] <LjL> BSDinux: no.
[05:05] <linuxboyfriend> LjL: I am trying to solve this for the last two hours :(
[05:05] <oskude> "aptitude is a terminal-based apt frontend"
[05:05] <LjL> !tell BSDinux about aptitude
[05:05] <BSDinux> lol
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ok now i have 3ddesktop installed how to i use it?
[05:05] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: what program are you trying to compile?
[05:05] <funkyHat> apt != apt-get
[05:05] <tritium_> no, BSDinux.  aptitude keeps track of what dependencies a package pulls in, and removes those dependencies if the package gets removed.  atp-get can't do that
[05:05] <oskude> !frontend
[05:05] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oskude
[05:06] <linuxboyfriend> LjL: its one of my economics related software
[05:06] <BSDinux> ok
[05:06] <smoalne> hello
[05:06] <ShedPlant> Hi all :)
[05:06] <BSDinux> i use synaptic if i dont apt-get
[05:06] <tinus> hi
[05:06] <linuxboyfriend> LjL: now! do you have any idea whats going wrong?
[05:06] <tinus> i need some help
[05:06] <tinus> i just got my ubuntu live cd
[05:06] <oskude> btw. does aptitude allso want to remove myslq when trying to remove exim4 ?
[05:07] <tinus> and i would like to access my fat32 partition
[05:07] <LjL> oskude: anyway, it's not that apt-get has anything wrong. it's just that if you install something like, say, x-window-system-dev, which installs a ton of dependencies and which is likely to be removed later, apt-get becomes a mess -- since removing it will involve manually removing every package
[05:07] <funkyHat> tinus,
[05:07] <funkyHat> !ask
[05:07] <tinus> how do i do this?
[05:07] <BSDinux> you have to mount it vfat
[05:07] <funkyHat> !ast
[05:07] <ubotu> funkyHat: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:07] <funkyHat> gah
[05:07] <funkyHat> !ask
[05:07] <smoalne> could someone pls tell me what a good c++ compiler package is for linux
[05:07] <Shigutso> Can anyone help me? I am new in Linux and in Ubuntu, and I have some doubts... anyone??
[05:07] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: no. the configure is complaining about missing X headers, but if you have x-window-system-dev installed (which you do), you have the headers
[05:07] <tinus> how do i mount it vfat ?
[05:07] <BSDinux> create a folder, example mkdir /mnt/fatdisk
[05:07] <LjL> smoalne: g++
[05:07] <dan_> how to i send stuff to my phone with a bluetooth dongle?
[05:07] <LjL> smoalne: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[05:07] <smoalne> shigutso: what's happening
[05:07] <ShedPlant> tinus, if you click on the Rubber Ring at the top of the desktop, that'll bring you to Help.
[05:07] <BSDinux> then: mount -t vfat /dev/yourdisk# /mnt/fatdisk
[05:08] <funkyHat> !ntfs
[05:08] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:08] <ShedPlant> There are instructions on mounting fat partitions in the Starter Guide.
[05:08] <linuxboyfriend> LjL: then how can I tell configure script about that?
[05:08] <smoalne> LjL: what's the name of the program itself ? essential
[05:08] <clearscreen> my Acer 5023WMLI laptop just doesnt properly installs my Wireless network card.. I have tried acer-hk + ndiswrapper with the bcmwl5.inf drivers(also the bcmwl5a.inf driver), which is supposed to install it on wlan0.. however, ubuntu detected it on install as eth0 but even though I power it up in the networking screen, it does not connect to my AP, there's no sign of the wlan0 adapter that supposedly had to be installed by ndiswrap
[05:08] <Shigutso> smoalne, i don't know how to upgrade my Firefox, or any program, because I am not the root
[05:08] <clearscreen> lol that's a long message
[05:08] <tinus> it says permission denied
[05:08] <dan_> how to i send stuff to my phone with a bluetooth dongle?
[05:08] <BSDinux> you need root access
[05:08] <BSDinux> use sudo
[05:08] <tinus> yes
[05:08] <BSDinux> sudo mount
[05:08] <smoalne> root is not set when you first start up
[05:08] <tinus> but i don't know the password
[05:08] <tritium_> clearscreen: but we appreciate that you did it all in one line, rather than hitting enter 400 times
[05:09] <BSDinux> oh
[05:09] <LjL> smoalne: build-essential is a package that will install GCC (C compiler), G++, make and other things needed for most compiling
[05:09] <trappist> tinus: it's your password.
[05:09] <smoalne> do sudo passwd root
[05:09] <gnomefreak> tinus: your user password when you use sudo
[05:09] <yuri_> hi people. I'd like to change my default fm from nautilus to konqueror. I already have kong installed
[05:09] <Shigutso> in terminal?
[05:09] <yuri_> konq*
[05:09] <trappist> smoalne: that defeats the whole purpose of ubuntu's sudo setup.
[05:09] <smoalne> LjL: oh ! I was looking for a front end ?
[05:09] <btdown> yuri_ You want to change *to* Konqueror???
[05:09] <trappist> smoalne: an ide?
[05:09] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: it really depends on the program...
[05:09] <yuri_> yes
[05:09] <LjL> smoalne: but you did ask for a C++ compiler ;)
[05:09] <DarKSideS> ANYWAY that i can save under Live CD?
[05:09] <LjL> smoalne: try anjuta perhaps
[05:09] <smoalne> True .. lol
[05:10] <Shigutso> smoalne, Ok, I changed the password... and now? May I have to login using root?
[05:10] <elenita> hola a todos ;-)
[05:10] <btdown> yuri_ sorry...cant help you, but usually people get rid of Konq..not the other way around...
[05:10] <tinus> i changed my password but it still says that access denied when i try to mount the fat partition
[05:10] <BSDinux> anjuta is nice.. but i always get back using the text editor and the terminal
[05:10] <smoalne> I'm just used to it, and wanted to ease the transition between using a text editor and a compiler
[05:10] <ShedPlant> What's wrong with Konquerer?
[05:10] <LjL> btdown: do they?
[05:11] <tritium_> smoalne: they're 2 different beasts
[05:11] <linuxboyfriend> LjL: ok leave it, i wanna ask one more thank, I was thinking that whethe it is possible to install kde-3.5 via apt
[05:11] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: yes it is, see kubuntu.org for the repositories
[05:11] <BSDinux> why don't you simply instal kubuntu
[05:11] <btdown> LJL heck thats the only reason a lot of people dont use KDE.
[05:11] <yuri_> so... how do i make konq default?
[05:11] <linuxboyfriend> LjL: ok thanks
[05:11] <LjL> BSDinux: 'cause it doesn't include kde 3.5 ;)
[05:11] <gnomefreak> brb
[05:12] <cppnewbie> hello again
[05:12] <LjL> btdown: oh well.
[05:12] <ShedPlant> yuri_, isn't there an application preferences somewhere in the System menu?
[05:12] <tinus> well, first i would like to see how it works
[05:12] <Shigutso> How do I install an application using the terminal? What is the command?
[05:12] <tinus> i have little linux experience
[05:12] <LjL> !tell Shigutso about shortapt
[05:12] <tinus> but i want to get on top of it
[05:12] <cppnewbie> can someone tell me how i can exit to the command console alone? tried installing the nvidia/nforce drivers and it tells me i need to exit X
[05:12] <LjL> linuxboyfriend: if the program you're compiling is open-source and all, i can try it here.
[05:12] <oskude> Shigutso, sudo apt-get install name-of-the-package
[05:12] <Shigutso> LjL, "shortapt 'name of the file'" ??
[05:13] <DarKSideS> sigh
[05:13] <LjL> cppnewbie: try ctrl+alt+backspace, it will restart X
[05:13] <DarKSideS> ANY WAY WATSOEVER
[05:13] <LjL> Shigutso: no
[05:13] <DarKSideS> a terminal command?
[05:13] <DarKSideS> anything?
[05:13] <BSDinux> tinus, hod do your commands look like?
[05:13] <LjL> Shigutso: read the message ubotu sent you
[05:13] <BSDinux> how
[05:13] <Shigutso> ok... thx
[05:13] <cppnewbie> thanx ljl will do
[05:13] <yuri_> ShedPlant: yes, but it does not have a tab for fm, only for terminal, mail and browser
[05:13] <oskude> Shigutso, to search you can do "apt-cache search some thing to search"
[05:13] <ShedPlant> Oh ok.
[05:13] <Shigutso> hmmm thanks oskude
[05:14] <tinus> what do u mean how do they look like ?
[05:14] <BSDinux> what did you enter in the command line?
[05:14] <oskude> Shigutso, and for seeing specific package do "apt-cache show name-of-the-package"
[05:14] <tinus> theymkdir / mnt/fatdisk
[05:14] <tinus> as u said
[05:14] <_jason> DarKSideS: did the wiki suggestions not work?
[05:14] <LjL> oskude, that's all explained in the Ubotu factoid i sent you, don't worry
[05:14] <LjL> you = him
[05:14] <BSDinux> sudo mkdir /mnt/fatdisk
[05:14] <tinus> did i mistype it ?
[05:14] <tinus> oh
[05:14] <tinus> ok
[05:15] <BSDinux> whenever you need root access but are not logged in as root you can use sudo
[05:15] <tinus> well i did it
[05:15] <oskude> LjL, i assume with "aptitude" ;)
[05:15] <BSDinux> k, now you have to mount the disk
[05:15] <tinus> and it didn't say anything
[05:15] <tinus> how ?
[05:15] <ShedPlant> Maybe it worked, tinus ;)
[05:15] <LjL> oskude: as i have written that factoid, yeah
[05:15] <bag> hi all
[05:15] <bag> Anyone knows where to find the spezific ubuntu patches? Such as the new logout menu?
[05:15] <BSDinux> find out the name of the disk. do you use parallel or serial harddisks?
[05:15] <dan_> how to i send stuff to my phone with a bluetooth dongle?
[05:15] <tinus> parallel
[05:16] <gnomefreak> ompaul:  you here still?
[05:16] <LjL> oskude: though only for installing. i do suggest "apt-cache search" and "apt-cache show" for the rest
[05:16] <BSDinux> is it partitioned?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> dan_,  i ended up using the KDE bluetooth tools.
[05:16] <tinus> yes
[05:16] <tinus> i have 3 partitions
[05:16] <tinus> 1st is ntfs
[05:16] <ompaul> gnomefreak, according to rumour anyway
[05:16] <BSDinux> ok
[05:16] <tinus> second is fat 32
[05:16] <BSDinux> one harddisk?
[05:16] <tinus> and 3rd is ntfs
[05:16] <DarKSideS> someone plz help me
[05:16] <tinus> yes
[05:16] <tinus> one
[05:16] <ompaul> gnomefreak, sup ?
[05:16] <tritium_> !tell tinus about enter
[05:16] <_jason> DarKSideS: I've given you the wiki page, did that not work?
[05:16] <BSDinux> ok, in that case your fat partition should be hda1
[05:16] <tinus> !enter
[05:16] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:17] <gnomefreak> ompaul: im on the wiki for xgl and they tell you to install mesa well mesa is not a package who would know what it should be and beable to edit it?
[05:17] <tinus> ok
[05:17] <Shigutso> When I execute the command "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox", Linux installs the version 1.0.7. Doesn't he know that there is already the version 1.5.0.1 ??? How can I install the newer version??
[05:17] <tinus> so i type /dev/hda1/mnt   ?
[05:17] <LjL> !tell Shigutso about firefox1.5
[05:17] <gnomefreak> i asked on #xgl-ubuntu and he didnt know who could edit it
[05:17] <DarKSideS> no
[05:17] <BSDinux> type: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda2 /mnt/fatdisk
[05:17] <LjL> Shigutso: also, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FaqOnIrc
[05:17] <DarKSideS> I did everything there.
[05:17] <DarKSideS> i added a folder named ipod
[05:17] <DarKSideS> I added the line it said
[05:17] <DarKSideS> and nothing,
[05:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, not doing xgl yet staying in 5.10 mostly for this channel to check stuff, anyone should be able to
[05:18] <Shigutso> LjL, ok... I will try :/
[05:18] <dan_> Dr_Willis - how to i acces that software?
[05:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, sudo apt-cache search mesa<<-- I would start looking there
[05:18] <tinus> i hope i won't lose any data
[05:18] <LjL> ompaul: i would start by not using sudo in front of apt-cache ;P
[05:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, yeap I know it does not need sudo
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> dan_,  i searched for bluetooth in the synaptic program, and installed anything that looked good. :P
[05:18] <BSDinux> you wont
[05:19] <gnomefreak> ompaul: there are a bunch of mesa packages none of them just mesa
[05:19] <LjL> ompaul: yeah, i know you do, just picking on you :)
[05:19] <ompaul> LjL, a fair point and wwell made
[05:19] <dan_> Dr_Willis - i installed what you said, but how do i access the programme?
[05:19] <smoalne> shigutso: yeah you should be all set
[05:20] <ompaul> gnomefreak, the number may have changed but something like this apt-cache search mesa
[05:20] <BSDinux> fat is well supported, tinus, no worries
[05:20] <DarKSideS> anything left to do?
[05:20] <ompaul> gnomefreak, doh
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> dan_,  could check the menus, or run the programs from the shell - if no icons.
[05:20] <Shigutso> smoalne, so I can now login with Root?
[05:20] <ompaul> gnomefreak, libgl1-mesa
[05:20] <ompaul> !tell Shigutso abou root
[05:20] <LjL> Shigutso: why do you need to login as root?
[05:21] <Shigutso> LjL, because I can't do anything without the root
[05:21] <ompaul> Shigutso, have a look at the page that the bot sent you, we don't need root here
[05:21] <Shigutso> see
[05:21] <DarKSideS> ...?
[05:21] <trappist> speaking of libgl1-mesa, I can't seem to convince Xgl/compiz to use it.  judging by the GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing error, it's using the nvidia gl libs
[05:21] <DarKSideS> ..>?
[05:21] <LjL> Shigutso: that's strange, i can do everything i like without root
[05:21] <LjL> Shigutso: do you know about sudo?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> thats my point there is no mesa verison its gonna be something like mesa-common-dev or mesa-utils
[05:21] <ompaul> !tell Shigutso about root
[05:21] <Shigutso> I used Samba to share my folder with the other computer that uses Windows
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> !bluetooth
[05:21] <ubotu> somebody said bluetooth was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[05:21] <Shigutso> but when I try to acess the shared folder
[05:21] <Shigutso> i need a password
[05:21] <ompaul> Shigutso, I have not used root and I keep my box up to date
[05:22] <Zag0R> !smb
[05:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Zag0R
[05:22] <ubuntu> chatche
[05:22] <LjL> Shigutso: (what shared folder?) that's probably your *user* password it's asking you
[05:22] <Shigutso> but how can i know the password, if i didn't do anything?
[05:22] <LjL> Shigutso: if you have enabled root, you're now likely to have some problems
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Shigutso,  use 'sudo smbpasswd -a LinuxUserName' and set up a password for your linux user.
[05:22] <Shigutso> no... i tried my username and password
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Shigutso,  that will allow access to their home dir.
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Shigutso,  its  a SEPERATE password.. you need to create it.
[05:22] <trappist> ompaul: any advice on GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing when I run compiz?
[05:22] <LjL> Shigutso: oh... if it's a Samba issue, then it has nothing at all to do with root. follow Dr_Willis's advice
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Shigutso,  it dose not have to be the same as theior login password.
[05:23] <gnomefreak> nm let me try this :(
[05:23] <DarKSideS> LjL, can you at all help me?
[05:23] <Shigutso> hmmm...
[05:23] <LjL> DarKSideS: what's the problem?
[05:23] <Shigutso> but i tried everything
[05:23] <Shigutso> and i can't acess the folder
[05:23] <Shigutso> but I created the share
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Shigutso,  so you ran the command ---> 'sudo smbpasswd -a LinuxUserName'   allready then?
[05:24] <DarKSideS> I want to be able to save on my iPod, problem is, im running ubuntu on Live cd.
[05:24] <Shigutso> and it says the who created the share was the root
[05:24] <Shigutso> but i am not the root...
[05:24] <DarKSideS> so i cant really save anything on my HD
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[05:24] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:24] <BSDinux> what filesystem?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> i miss read it :(
[05:24] <Shigutso> ok, i will try this command
[05:24] <paolob> Hi guys. I want to change the applications menu for all users, http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/ says me to do "http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/", but it doesn't work in breezy. How do I do it? thank you!
[05:24] <LjL> DarKSideS: look in the /media directory, there should be links to all your HD partitions
[05:24] <DarKSideS> and i need to save some files on my ipod to fix my Windows. and Install ubuntu
[05:24] <smoalne> LjL: so there isn't any really good front end to use ? I should just use a text editor ?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Shigutso,  samba is a very complex, and powerfill system. :P its also got a lot of 'defaults' set to be as secure as it can be.
[05:24] <LjL> DarKSideS: though i'm not really at all experienced with the live cd
[05:24] <BSDinux> darksides, what filesystem do you have on your HD? ntfs or fat32?
[05:25] <LjL> smoalne: is anjuta bad?
[05:25] <Shigutso> hmmm i think i get it
[05:25] <BSDinux> anjuta is a bit limiting
[05:25] <Shigutso> i will try to acess the folder now
[05:25] <ompaul> trappist, not a clue
[05:25] <Shigutso> brb :)
[05:25] <DarKSideS> ntfs
[05:25] <DarKSideS> i tried saving to my windows
[05:25] <tritium_> smoalne: you could look into eclipse, perhaps
[05:25] <DarKSideS> i obviously cant
[05:25] <LjL> DarKSideS: indeed, you cannot write to NTFS under linux
[05:26] <BSDinux> hmm.. writing on ntfs is possible but not really supported...
[05:26] <yggwork> good morning can somone help me, i have an smb share that i can mount and write to find from windows but when i mount it in linux i can only write to it as root. //olya/storeage /mnt/storeage   smbfs   rw,username=yggdrasil,password=password,uid=000,user 0 0 sorry to be a bother ive read the man page and tried different stuff
[05:26] <BSDinux> you need to install the ntfs tools
[05:26] <froud> is there an ubuntu.com URL where version 4.10 can still be downlaoded?
[05:26] <oskude> !ntfs
[05:26] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:26] <DarKSideS> i wish i could
[05:26] <DarKSideS> but that would involve downloading
[05:26] <DarKSideS> and i cant save.
[05:26] <oskude> i want the word "evil" back in ntfs :)
[05:26] <tritium_> !tell DarKSideS about enter
[05:26] <LjL> DarKSideS: you *can* install programs
[05:26] <BSDinux> the live cd has a virtual disk
[05:26] <BSDinux> should be possible
[05:26] <GutterPunk> !xgl
[05:26] <tinus> yes
[05:26] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[05:26] <ShedPlant> Yeah, you can install stuff as long as you don't reboot.
[05:27] <DarKSideS> Ok. so let me go ahead and install that
[05:27] <cppnewbie> :'(
[05:27] <LjL> DarKSideS: writing to NTFS is extremely unsafe. be aware that you could destroy your data.
[05:27] <DarKSideS> Awwww damn
[05:27] <DarKSideS> I mean
[05:27] <DarKSideS> Nothing wrong with that
[05:27] <DarKSideS> I mean
[05:27] <cppnewbie> ljl i still get the message that im running an x server even when i go to failsafe terminal
[05:27] <paolob> Hi guys! How do I modify the gnome menu for all users? thank you!
[05:27] <DarKSideS> I formatted my Pc last Night
[05:28] <DarKSideS> sooooo
[05:28] <DarKSideS> no biggie
[05:28] <tritium_> DarKSideS: please read what ubotu sent you about "enter"
[05:28] <LjL> cppnewbie: then try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" (or "kdm" if you're not using gdm).  later, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" will restart X
[05:28] <BSDinux> you want to recover files from a formatted disk?
[05:28] <cppnewbie> aha! thanx lemme c
[05:28] <DarKSideS> understood,sorry,it wont happen anymore.
[05:28] <tritium_> cppnewbie: you can also use "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop", etc.
[05:29] <cppnewbie> aha
[05:29] <cppnewbie> sounds smaller :D
[05:29] <tritium_> no worries, DarKSideS.  Thanks :)
[05:29] <froud> I need to obtain a copy of 4.10 to support FreedomToaster.org, is there a URL at ubuntu.com where I can still get  hthe ISO?
[05:29] <Shigutso> Dr_Willis, THANK YOU SO MUCH.. it worked :D
[05:29] <BSDinux> well, if it's really important data, you should find some tools to recover them
[05:29] <tritium_> froud: cdimage.ubuntu.com should still have it
[05:30] <smoalne> actually, nevermind ... pico is pretty easy to use, I'll just have to get used to not being spoon fed when working with objects
[05:30] <DarKSideS> seee I added this line to /ets/fstab/
[05:30] <DarKSideS> /dev/sda1               /mnt/ipod               auto    noauto,user,rw 0 0
[05:30] <froud> tritium: thanks
[05:30] <ShedPlant> Surely /etc/fstab
[05:30] <DarKSideS> sorry. did i just use "enter" again?
[05:31] <DarKSideS> yea.
[05:31] <ShedPlant> Btw is anyone using TwinView here?
[05:31] <BSDinux> try installing ntfsprogs... you probably could recover some lost data
[05:31] <tritium_> ShedPlant: I have in the past.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> ShedPlant,  i have in the past also. :P
[05:32] <DarKSideS> would this be the ipod??......     /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 auto noauto,users,exec,umask=000,uid=warty 0 0
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> shedi,  oddly seems that under dapper - it quit working for me.. not sure what the deal is.
[05:32] <ShedPlant> I can't test my settings atm, because I'm at work, but maybe later I'll need some help with it.
[05:32] <BSDinux> sda1 should be your serial harddisk
[05:32] <LjL> DarKSideS: "uid=warty"? you're using warty?
[05:32] <DarKSideS> yea.
[05:32] <DarKSideS> live cd.
[05:32] <LjL> err... it's *sort of* old
[05:33] <DarKSideS> Yup
[05:33] <DarKSideS> LoL.
[05:33] <BSDinux> lol
[05:33] <DarKSideS> I was an Ubunto fan, back like almost a yr ago?
[05:33] <DarKSideS> ubuntu.
[05:33] <ShedPlant> X recognises the extra space, but the monitor doesn't turn on. I think I need to configure my "ConnectedMonitor" option better.
[05:33] <yggwork> good morning can somone help me, i have an smb share that i can mount and write to find from windows but when i mount it in linux i can only write to it as root. //olya/storeage /mnt/storeage   smbfs   rw,username=yggdrasil,password=password,uid=000,user 0 0 sorry to be a bother ive read the man page and tried different stuff
[05:34] <DarKSideS> so i stil l have the cd's i requested.
[05:35] <BSDinux> shedplant, i don't use twinview, but i used cinerama for a while
[05:35] <BSDinux> or at least option "clone"
[05:35] <ShedPlant> tritium, Dr_Willis, were the monitors you were using identical?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> ShedPlant,  i used a LCD and the TV out.. so No. :P
[05:36] <BSDinux> you need 2 device, 2 monitor and 2 screen sections
[05:36] <BSDinux> and a serverlayout section
[05:36] <cyorxamp__> Hi I am using xubuntu and as a result on a new installing I don't think I get archive manager - so can someone name a few good 'zip' type programs (one like WinRAR would be great) ??
[05:36] <DarKSideS> soooooooooooo,, i guess there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING i can do
[05:36] <tritium_> ShedPlant: nope.  A laptop LCD, and either TV out, or an external CRT or projector
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> yggwork,  the 'using samba' book is aviliable online. and is well worth reading if you are going to use samba a great deal.
[05:36] <tritium_> ShedPlant: you read the docs under /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx?
[05:36] <ShedPlant> Are you sure, BSDinux? I don't think you do for Twinview, but then, I can't get it to work.
[05:36] <BSDinux> darksides, install ntfsprogs
[05:36] <kemik> Cyorxamp: unrar-nonfree
[05:36] <kemik> Cyorxamp: in univ/multiverse i think
[05:36] <ShedPlant> I'll have a look at those, tritium, thanks.
[05:37] <cyorxamp__> kemik, and it deals with practivally everything? and a nice GUI ?
[05:37] <BSDinux> not "twinview", but dual screen anyway
[05:37] <kemik> Cyorxamp: no it's CLI...
[05:37] <DarKSideS> !ntfsprogs
[05:37] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DarKSideS
[05:37] <DarKSideS> BSDinux,  where would i get it..?
[05:38] <yggwork> ok
[05:38] <yggwork> thanks
[05:38] <cyorxamp__> nah that's poo, need an 'archive' type program that can deal with practically everything and a nice GUI - any more ideas?
[05:38] <kemik> cyorxamp__: the one that goes with ubuntu... or does it depend on too much gnomestuff ?
[05:38] <BSDinux> dakr, use apt-get ntfsprogs
[05:38] <ajith> hello..can anyone plz tell me how to install 3d driver for cle266 in ubuntu5.10
[05:38] <cyorxamp__> kemik, well I have xchat, firefox etc... and xfce is GTK 2... so I suppose
[05:39] <tritium_> ajith: which video chip?
[05:39] <cyorxamp__> but can no one think of others (i like choice :P)
[05:39] <oskari> #fin
[05:39] <ajith> tritium:- via CLE266
[05:39] <kemik> cyorxamp__: wine+winrar :P
[05:39] <oskude> cyorxamp__, how about asking apt-cache and googling...
[05:39] <cyorxamp__> hehe
[05:39] <alolex> does ubuntu use a sort of "control panel" like windows osx or suse so you can control your hardware?
[05:39] <cyorxamp__> oskude, this is one of those questions I find difficult to word
[05:40] <cyorxamp__> alolex, good question... any one know?
[05:40] <oskude> cyorxamp__, apt-cache search zip
[05:40] <succubus__> what would be the best way to go about installing php
[05:40] <BSDinux> use synaptic
[05:40] <oskude> cyorxamp__, and then googling for the progs you found to see if they a pretty enough...
[05:40] <stockholm> how can i install packages during d-i run?
[05:40] <jcole> non-linux question... i'm trying to figure out the name of an animated movie where the plot is a girl trying to get a formula, for doscile human hybrid species to reproduce so they won't die... i think they wear a bracelet or something that keeps them alive...
[05:40] <_filip__> Is it possibel to add a package so it be installed when installing Ubuntu?
[05:41] <DarKSideS> apt-get ntfsprogs
[05:41] <stockholm> i need to load the madwifi module before network autodetection can work
[05:41] <DarKSideS> I got an error
[05:41] <DarKSideS> warty@ubuntu:~ $ sudo apt-get ntfsprogs
[05:41] <DarKSideS> E: Invalid operation ntfsprogs
[05:41] <DarKSideS> warty@ubuntu:~ $
[05:41] <DarKSideS> warty@ubuntu:~ $
[05:41] <kemik> jcole: wrong channel
[05:41] <BSDinux> apt-get install ntfsprogs
[05:41] <kemik> DarKSideS: install
[05:41] <geniusvicks> I always have to sudo to access the other drives on my harddisk
[05:41] <kemik> DarKSideS: and dont paste multiple lines in here, it's called 'spamming'
[05:41] <geniusvicks> how do I do it without using sudo
[05:41] <alolex> use su?
[05:41] <jcole> kemik: what if i want to rent it and watch it on ubuntu? ;)
[05:41] <alolex> login as root?
[05:41] <kemik> geniusvicks: mount with umask or  uid
[05:42] <BSDinux> genius, change the owner
[05:42] <ajith> tritium:- ubuntu finds the video card as unichrome  (via) cle 266 but there is no 3d support
[05:42] <geniusvicks> how to change the owner
[05:42] <kemik> jcole: i guess that's ok then... uhm
[05:42] <BSDinux> in fstab using the user= or uid=
[05:42] <DarKSideS> anoter error
[05:42] <BSDinux> or if it's just temporary use chown
[05:42] <DarKSideS> another*
[05:42] <kemik> DarKSideS: prefix with "sudo"
[05:43] <Shigutso> How can I configure my "Start Button", like program locations, etc?
[05:43] <geniusvicks> also I'm planning to buy a video accelerater card'
[05:43] <geniusvicks> Will any card work in Linux
[05:43] <BSDinux> darksides, you should have installed linux a year ago using extfs and you wouldn't ahve a problem at all recovering files...
[05:44] <oskude> geniusvicks, i got radeon, works. but im gonnay buy nvidia (because of a particular software)
[05:44] <BSDinux> genius, nvidia is best
[05:44] <gnomefreak> nvidia are good cards most are supported on ubuntu most are auto detected too
[05:44] <setuid> How do I know if I'm running Breezy or 5.10?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> setuid: lsb_release -a
[05:44] <bas_> Does anybody know if there are any sources for apt for Drapper flight?
[05:44] <setuid> Release:        5.10
[05:44] <setuid> Codename:       breezy
[05:44] <bas_> i am having trouble to install certain packages
[05:44] <setuid> hrm... so they're the same. I wonder why ATI considers them different.
[05:45] <gnomefreak> setuid: what do you mean?
[05:45] <geniusvicks> but I have to consider my budget
[05:45] <setuid> gnomefreak: ATI's driver installer
[05:45] <bas_> setuid: uname -a
[05:45] <setuid> gnomefreak: It wants me to choose one or the other
[05:45] <stockholm> what are the package management tools during d-i run? dpkg and apt-get are not yet there. does apt-install work?
[05:45] <setuid> bas_: nope, that doesn't do it
[05:45] <gnomefreak> choose breezy
[05:45] <Shigutso> How do I configure the "Applications" Menu???
[05:45] <setuid> gnomefreak: right
[05:45] <gnomefreak> bas_: that just gives you the kernel version
[05:45] <cppnewbie> hey again, when i apt-get i get an error about something with "/var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[05:45] <gnomefreak> !version
[05:45] <ubotu> version is, like, totally, to check version of Ubuntu use lsb_release -a
[05:45] <oskude> stockholm, if the package is not in cd, and you dont yet have net. its not gonna work
[05:45] <geniusvicks> I have only Rs.4000 which is about $80
[05:45] <stockholm> can i install the linux-restricted-modules before network auto-contiguration?
[05:46] <humon> what's the difference between ubuntu 5.10 and ubuntu 5.10 "breezy badger"?
[05:46] <bhearsum> has anyone here used software suspend 2 on a system with an nfs root filesystem?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> humon: there is no difference
[05:46] <stockholm> oskude: the package is on the cd
[05:46] <oskude> stockholm, try insmod
[05:46] <Biggi> Hello. Does anyone know how to make Konqueror open my folders in seperate windows in stead of tabs?
[05:46] <stockholm> oskude: dude, the package is not installed yet
[05:46] <gnomefreak> 5.10 is code name breezy badger
[05:46] <LjL> humon: "breezy badger" *is* the nickname for version 5.10
[05:46] <regeya> humon: both are 5.10
[05:46] <humon> gnomefreak: ok
[05:46] <cppnewbie> anyone that knows wazza prob here? :S
[05:46] <regeya> humon: that's a bit like asking what the difference is between Mac OS 10.4 and Mac OS Tiger
[05:47] <oskude> stockholm, hmm, i though you need only to install a module... dunno ever done what you want...
[05:47] <bas_> gnomefreak: yes, you are right
[05:47] <regeya> wait...those are exactly the same
[05:47] <eth0> hi, could anyone help me, i can't get gnomebaker to burn a dvd bin file?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: you have more than 1 apt running
[05:47] <Shigutso> How do I configure the "Applications" Menu???
[05:47] <oskude> stockholm, but im pretty sure google knows that
[05:47] <eth0> and apparently it's supposed to do so
[05:47] <cppnewbie> i dont. at least i think so, how can i figure it out?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> either synaptic or updater ot you are apt-geting something else
[05:47] <cppnewbie> none of these
[05:47] <cppnewbie> it tells me something
[05:47] <cppnewbie> lemme tell ya
[05:47] <Cyorxamp> What is the Archive Manager package called!?
[05:48] <gnomefreak> fileroller?
[05:48] <cppnewbie> open (13 Access Denied)
[05:48] <cppnewbie> wazza? :S
[05:48] <gnomefreak> Cyorxamp: you mean that archive manager?
[05:48] <BSDinux> sudo?
[05:48] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: use sudo
[05:48] <cppnewbie> ah
[05:48] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get update or whatever command used
[05:48] <Cyorxamp> gnomefreak, I think so.. are there any other good ones (i.e. can do alot of formats and has a GUI?)
[05:48] <trappist> pitti_: how can I get involved in the firewall spec?  or does the guy who got the bounty get exclusive access?
[05:48] <cppnewbie> same again
[05:48] <gnomefreak> fileroller is the only one i know of for sure and its gui
[05:49] <cppnewbie> it dled something but what i wanted didnt download
[05:49] <cppnewbie> i think that is
[05:49] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: do you have permissions to use sudo?
[05:49] <cppnewbie> of course
[05:49] <cppnewbie> i used it and it worked, however when it reached a certain place it stopped
[05:49] <cppnewbie> saying something about a lock again
[05:49] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: what did you download?
[05:50] <clearscreen> what's the difference between the cd and dvd version of ubuntu? dvd version just includes more software?
[05:50] <cppnewbie> is it possible that this occurs if this thing is already in the system?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> clearscreen: i think so
[05:50] <ajith> tritium:- can you help me..
[05:50] <vniki> someone has the xgl subsystem?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> clearscreen: but with the repos enabled they are same
[05:50] <gnomefreak> i have xgl
[05:51] <eth0> hi, could anyone help me, i can't get gnomebaker to burn a dvd bin file?
[05:51] <eth0> and apparently it's supposed to do so
[05:51] <vniki> mmm is good?
[05:51] <cppnewbie> is it possible that this thing with the lock occurs if this thing is already in the system?
[05:51] <Cyorxamp> gnomefreak, hey I am using xubuntu (ubuntu with xfce) and i just installed fileroller... can I expect an icon to appear on the xfce menu? or that a stupid thing to think?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> vniki: its ok but its not gonna work on all systems
[05:51] <Shigutso> what is the application that can open .DEB files ??
[05:51] <Cyorxamp> Shachaf, dpkg
[05:52] <geniusvicks> I opened fstab but I dont see any uid or uname column
[05:52] <gnomefreak> Cyorxamp: you might get one but normally not when it asks you to save it just use fileroller to open it
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> open as in 'install' you mean?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> Shigutso: sudo dpkg -i file.deb will install the deb
[05:52] <Shigutso> yes :)
[05:52] <humon> i have trouble enabling direct rendering on my Savage 4 graphics adapter. i've tried both auto detection and manual configuration through the X setup app (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) without success. any hints?
[05:52] <bas_> Shigutso, adept is a graphical installer, i find it easy to use.
[05:53] <Shigutso> thanks :D
[05:53] <gnomefreak> humon: is that vc supported in ubuntu?
[05:53] <cppnewbie> how can i set my resolution to 1280x1024?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell humon about savage
[05:54] <geniusvicks> I opened fstab but I dont see any uid or uname column
[05:54] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: system>prefferences>resolution
[05:54] <humon> gnomefreak: i'm not sure. it certainly detects the card as savage 4
[05:54] <LjL> cppnewbie: if it's not a choice in the Gnome settings, then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answering with the defaults to every question except the ones about resolution
[05:54] <cppnewbie> gnomefreak 1280x1024 isnt in the list
[05:54] <gnomefreak> humon: you may need to get drivers i dont know anything about savage cards
[05:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cppnewbie about fixres
[05:55] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: your pm should help
[05:55] <DarKSideS> ubotu help
[05:55] <LjL> !tell darksides about bot
[05:55] <gnomefreak> DarKSideS: what do you need help with?
[05:55] <oskude> cppnewbie, sure your monitor/graohicscard can handle that resolution ?
[05:55] <cppnewbie> of course, its fairly new (nvidia 6800gt) :D
[05:55] <DarKSideS> ubotu ipod
[05:55] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[05:56] <DarKSideS> ick
[05:56] <DarKSideS> i give up
[05:56] <cppnewbie> lol
[05:56] <eth0> hi, could anyone help me, i can't get gnomebaker to burn a dvd bin file and it's supposed to do so
[05:56] <oskude> cppnewbie, if yes, change the monitor refresh rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:56] <cppnewbie> aha thanx
[05:56] <LjL> guys, guys, more often than not specifying the desired resolution in xorg.conf (possibly by running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg") works :)
[05:56] <LjL> don't go to such great lengths before knowing that doesn't work ;)
[05:56] <cppnewbie> btw that thing u gave me ljl doesnt work
[05:56] <oskude> cppnewbie, there you can also change the resolution
[05:56] <Spec> although, the best way to configure it is using vim...
[05:57] <LjL> cppnewbie: which one?
[05:57] <tritium_> cppnewbie: what thing?
[05:57] <cppnewbie> that sudo dpkg-reconfigure thing
[05:57] <oskude> cppnewbie, and your monitor has to support that resolution too, not just your graphics card...
[05:57] <tritium_> it does work, cppnewbie
[05:57] <humon> gnomefreak: is this a driver?: http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/archive/savage-20051125-linux.i386.tar.bz2
[05:57] <LjL> cppnewbie: you need to restart X for the new settings to take effect
[05:57] <cppnewbie> oskude it does :D
[05:57] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: look in your pm and use that to fix it than
[05:57] <cppnewbie> k ljl
[05:57] <LjL> cppnewbie: you can do that by pressing ctrl+alt+backspace (careful: doesn't ask!)
[05:58] <cppnewbie> kk gnomefreak
[05:58] <cppnewbie> i know already tried once :D
[05:58] <_filip__> does somebody know if i can add an package to my Ubuntu cd so the package will be install when installing Ubuntu on my harddrive?
[05:58] <bas_> default cups/printer config in dapper really sux..
[05:58] <tritium_> cppnewbie: did you "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" after reconfiguring?
[05:58] <gnomefreak> humon: dont know i cant open it
[05:58] <oskude> cppnewbie, ok then i would look i the manual its vertical and horizontal refresh rates and change them in xorg.conf
[05:58] <cppnewbie> no i meant that i used ctrl+alt+backspace before, not that configuration stuff lol :p
[05:59] <oskude> cppnewbie, and if you still dont get the res in the GUI, add it in the xorg.conf
[05:59] <LjL> cppnewbie: then do try either that, or tritium_'s suggestion (though i think that if you do that inside X, gdm won't really restart...?)
[05:59] <tritium_> cppnewbie: you haven't tried to reconfigure yet?
[05:59] <bur[n] er> LjL: it will restart
[05:59] <cppnewbie> not really cuz i didnt know how tritium_ :P
[05:59] <bur[n] er> cppnewbie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:59] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:59] <geniusvicks> I opened fstab but I dont see any uid or uname column and I cant edit it, its only a read only file
[05:59] <bur[n] er> doh, wrong one ;)
[05:59] <LjL> bur[n] er: i'm not so sure, i think the last time i tried it it simply stopped the server -- understandably, since the X terminal will be killed as soon as X is shut down
[06:00] <LjL> bur[n] er, tritium_: i will try that now
[06:00] <DarKSideS> ahhhhh
[06:00] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er: can i set the res for gdm with that command?
[06:00] <tritium_> LjL: ok.  I didn't mean for him to do that from within X
[06:00] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: no
[06:00] <gnomefreak> damn
[06:00] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: that command just lets you choose between kdm and gdm
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhh
[06:01] <cppnewbie> lol i missed a letter before thats y it didnt work :D
[06:01] <gnomefreak> i really like the ctrl+alt+arrow :)
[06:01] <gnomefreak> now if i can just get it to stay on a turn :(
[06:02] <LjL> bur[n] er: "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart" won't restart. i can't check with gdm, but i suppose it would be the same
[06:02] <tritium_> LjL:I didn't mean for him to do that from within X
[06:03] <bur[n] er> LjL: you have to make sure kdm is the default first via "dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and pikc kdm
[06:03] <bur[n] er> LjL: then stop gdm via "invoke-rc.d gdm stop"
[06:03] <JLiquorish> does anybody know if there is a channel about web development?
[06:03] <bur[n] er> LjL: then start via "invoke-rc.d kdm start"
[06:03] <bur[n] er> weee, i'm out
[06:03] <LjL> bur[n] er: kdm *is* the default. the problem, as i said, is that if you do that inside X, the thing will be killed *before* it ever gets to restart
[06:03] <bur[n] er> JLiquorish: all over ;)  #php if you're into that
[06:03] <LjL> tritium_: i know
[06:03] <eth0> hi, could anyone help me burn a bin/cue file?
[06:03] <bur[n] er> LjL: so just start it from a term
[06:04] <JLiquorish> thanks bur[n] er
[06:04] <bur[n] er> LjL: ctrl + alt + f2
[06:04] <LjL> bur[n] er: i know how that's done.
[06:04] <oskude> JLiquorish, or maybe some channels of "web ide's" like nvu...
[06:04] <LjL> bur[n] er: it's just that i previously said that doing "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart" wouldn't work, while you said it would
[06:04] <LjL> under X i mean
[06:04] <bur[n] er> LjL: it would ;)  it does here
[06:04] <Printer> Hey all.
[06:04] <bur[n] er> LjL: as long as kdm is the default and running
[06:04] <LjL> bur[n] er: try doing it *under an X terminal*, not in a console
[06:05] <bur[n] er> LjL: and it works ;)
[06:05] <oskude> tritium, whats V.C. ?
[06:05] <LjL> bur[n] er: then i suppose gdm is different from kdm in that respect.
[06:05] <tritium_> virtual console
[06:05] <bur[n] er> gdm works the same way
[06:05] <bur[n] er> anyway, i'm off
[06:05] <Printer> Anyone manage to sync a Palm in dapper?  My Tungsten E works in Breezy but not dapper yet.
[06:05] <oskude> tritium, hmm
[06:05] <bur[n] er> Printer: i haven't tried with my palm TX, but will soon ;)
[06:05] <bur[n] er> Printer: using gnome-pilot or multisync or what?
[06:06] <tritium_> oskude: poor little virtual console 1 (accessible via ctrl-alt-f1) is often neglected :(
[06:06] <LjL> bur[n] er: well, i really don't see *how* it could work. if you run that *inside an X terminal*, *that X terminal will be killed as soon as the "stop" is issued*. which means it will have no reasonable way to restart
[06:06] <oskude> tristan, aah, no i understand.
[06:06] <oskude> +w
[06:06] <bur[n] er> LjL: you use gdm restart, instead of stop/start
[06:06] <Printer> bur[n] er: I can get it to work with jpilot but not in Gnome/Evolution.
[06:06] <Krillancello> I may have a problem here.
[06:06] <oskude> tristan, hups, was for tritium_
[06:06] <bur[n] er> Printer: aww...  I haven't done it yet, but if I do, i'll let ya know
[06:07] <LjL> bur[n] er: sure. except a "restart" still has to stop the X server (thereby killing the issuing terminal) before restarting it
[06:07] <oskude> tritium_, and you where wondering what ?
[06:07] <bas_> tritium, people think X is running under vc1?
[06:07] <cppnewbie> k now i reconfigured it, what do i need to do in order for the changes to take effect? :S
[06:07] <oskude> tritium_, some messages as spitted to tty1 so i use allways tty2+
[06:07] <tritium_> oskude: I just think it's odd/comical
[06:08] <LjL> bur[n] er: just look inside /etc/init.d/kdm. you'll see that what the "restart" section does is simply run "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" before anything else.
[06:08] <tritium_> bas_: no, this is a separate issue
[06:08] <sesq> hi, in fluxbox always after reboot i lose my wallpapper, how can i set it good ?
[06:08] <bas_> yes i know but that may be the reason the use ctrl+al+f1t
[06:08] <LjL> bur[n] er: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9681
[06:08] <bas_> s/the/they
[06:08] <oskude> please call it tty1 instead of vc1, sounds like visual c version 1 :)
[06:08] <cppnewbie> :S...
[06:08] <cppnewbie> :D
[06:09] <St_Iron> hello
[06:10] <tritium_> oskude: it's the first virtual console, though
[06:10] <gnomefreak> sesq: session.screen0.rootcommand:fbsetbg -l or something like that
[06:10] <Krillancello> tritium_: It could also be called a virtual terminal, or VT. ;)
[06:11] <oskude> tritium_, and you see "tty1" on the top...
[06:11] <LjL> it could also be called a darn console :>
[06:11] <navaneeth> how do you install files with extension .tar.gz (like the firefox 1.5 i downloaded) on ubuntu?
[06:11] <oskude> LjL, i call it console, and terminal under x
[06:11] <LjL> navaneeth: .tar.gz can't be "installed", as they're simply archives, similar to .zip files for example
[06:11] <bas_> oskude: tty1 is the device /dev/tty1, virtual console is its name..
[06:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell navaneeth about ff1.5
[06:11] <St_Iron> !firefox
[06:11] <Krillancello> Exactly what does TTY stand for, anyway? I may have known at some point, but if I did I've since forgotten. O_o
[06:12] <gnomefreak> navaneeth: follow that it works great
[06:12] <edward0> navaneeth: ubuntu comes with firefox
[06:12] <St_Iron> !firefox1.5
[06:12] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:12] <renewip> how many packages Ubuntu DVD has?
[06:12] <LjL> navaneeth: you can use "gunzip filename.gz ; tar -x -f filename.tar" to extract them (there's a shorter version involving only "tar", but i never remember it)
[06:12] <St_Iron> here you are navaneeth
[06:12] <oskude> bas_, and for "noobs" its better to say tty1 as thats what they see as first...
[06:12] <LjL> navaneeth: or, under Gnome, i think you can simply double-click on it and a GUI program will be launched to extract
[06:13] <trpr42> LjL: eventually you will take all those switches for granted. its tar -zxvf file.tar.gz ... would be tar -jxvf file.tar.bz2, etc
[06:13] <navaneeth> i can extract it anywhere i want?
[06:13] <LjL> trpr42: "eventually"? i've been using text-mode-only linux for about 5 years :)
[06:13] <LjL> trpr42: i'm just used to gunzip followed by tar
[06:13] <Jadi> how can I install OpenOffice 2.0.1 on my ubuntu ? I've downloaded the file and after extracting it I have lots of RPMs.
[06:14] <LjL> navaneeth: yes, just "cd" to the directory where you want it extracted first (and then, of course, type the *complete* path of the file)
[06:14] <LjL> navaneeth: under the GUI program in Gnome, i'm sure there is an option to extract to any directory. can't really say, as i don't have Gnome
[06:15] <___Viper___> from where i can get Gaim?
[06:15] <trpr42> LjL: lol. well i guess not eventually. its going on 4 years for myself and i'm starting to pick up syntax faster and faster.. but there was a time when i wouldn't change any of my habits because they were so well learned.
[06:15] <ShedPlant> http://gaim.sourceforge.net or using apt-get
[06:15] <tritium_> ___Viper___: it's installed by default
[06:15] <cppnewbie> :D
[06:15] <Jadi> how can I install OpenOffice 2.0.1 on my ubuntu ? I've downloaded the file and after extracting it I have lots of RPMs.
[06:15] <jdl> I'm needing to update my kernel on a breezy box.  Should I be able to slap down kernel.org sources near 2.6.16-rc5, twiddle some config options and expect things to pretty much still be working?  Or are their known gotchas here?
[06:15] <navaneeth> what about .deb files like that of fluxbox?
[06:15] <tuv> what is a good touch typing training program?
[06:16] <ShedPlant> Typing of the Dead, tuv.
[06:16] <bas_> Krillancello, "tty" is an abbreviation for "Teletype". The first terminals were Teletypes (like remotely controlled typewriters). See subsection Teletypes. A list of Linux devices (the stuff in the /dev directory) may be found in "Linux Allocated Devices" which should be included with kernel sources. It "describes" what each device used for in only a word or two but doesn't tell you how to use them.
[06:16] <ShedPlant> (not availble for linux afaik)
[06:16] <cppnewbie> lol
[06:16] <LjL> trpr42: well, keep in mind that typing the whole gunzip / tar thing is a fine way to spend my time while waiting for wget to complete the download of the tarball in question :)
[06:16] <cppnewbie> not wineable?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> how do i get into gconf?
[06:16] <ShedPlant> I don't know.
[06:16] <Odice> hi, how can i make my joystick work?, it shows itself in the device manager but when i run jscalibration, it doesn recognize it
[06:16] <tritium_> jdl: I suggest you install kernel-package, and use make-kpkg to make a .deb of the kernel you build
[06:16] <tuv> ShedPlant: what is "Typing of the Dead"? is that a package name?
[06:16] <Krillancello> bas_: Thanks, that was a bit long-winded, but you did answer my question. Haha.
[06:17] <LjL> gnomefreak: the editor you mean? gconf-editor
[06:17] <jdl> tritium_ What is the advantage of that?
[06:17] <iBalo> Jadi: throw the package and the .rpm into away and use the package manager 'synaptic' to install openoffice
[06:17] <tritium_> jdl: your new kernel will be under package management
[06:17] <bas_> Krillancello,  for more see: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-6.html
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ty
[06:17] <ShedPlant> Tuv, Typing of the Dead is a game: a conversion of the Arcade classic "House of the Dead 2". I haven't tried installing it on linux.
[06:18] <jdl> tritium_ OK.  Is it able to use my current git linux sources?
[06:18] <tritium_> jdl: what are git sources?
[06:18] <Jadi> tnx iBalo. I'll test it right now
[06:18] <cppnewbie> guys strange thing, while i was trying to install nforce drivers, i got the message that there were no precompiled kernels and that it would try to compile it itself. however it didnt
[06:18] <jdl> git is the source control mechanism currently housing linux.
[06:18] <tritium_> cppnewbie: are you installing modules form source?
[06:19] <iBalo> Jadi: see !easysource on how to enable the repositories for latest openoffice
[06:19] <cppnewbie> i dunno if .run files r considered sources :D
[06:19] <LjL> !tell cppnewbie about nvidia
[06:19] <Jadi> !easysource
[06:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:19] <tritium_> jdl: oh, right...yes, kernel-package can work with any kernel source, essentially
[06:19] <bas_> cppnewbie, its not strange, prob. your kernel is not in the Nvidia kernel list, to recompile the Nvidia drivers for your system you need the kernel-source and headers
[06:19] <LjL> !info nvidia-glx
[06:19] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 3012 kB, Installed size: 10040 kB
[06:19] <tritium_> cppnewbie: use ubuntu packages!
[06:19] <tritium_> !tell cppnewbie about nvidia
[06:20] <jdl> tritium_ This is all precursor to making a new nVidia driver addition, of course...
[06:20] <cppnewbie> where do i get these bas_ ?
[06:20] <LjL> cppnewbie: from the repositories.
[06:20] <tritium_> cppnewbie: read the URL I had ubotu send you
[06:20] <bas_> apt-get? or use adept and look for kernel
[06:20] <cppnewbie> k then :D
[06:21] <zarephath> clear
[06:21] <bas_> tritium, the ubuntu drivers are buggy and not the latest
[06:21] <tritium_> jdl: ?
[06:21] <zarephath> How do I search the repositories(from command line) to find which package has this file? libdvdcss2
[06:21] <LjL> bas_: so are you suggesting installing from source and possibly recompiling the kernel, to somebody who doesn't even know about APT?
[06:21] <tritium_> bas_: they're not particularly buggy.  What are you referring to?
[06:21] <LjL> !tell zarephath about shortapt
[06:22] <zarephath> LjL: Thanks
[06:22] <bas_> Ljl: yes, its hard but it worth it.
[06:22] <St_Iron> how can i write data cd with cdrecord? i want to burn the Nexuiz directory on a cdrw...
[06:22] <Swedes> Hi
[06:22] <tritium_> bas_: not really
[06:22] <jdl> Well, a new nvidia driver is needed, and just like ubotu just mentioned, compiled in with some linux source headers..
[06:22] <LjL> bas_: well, i can't but disagree.
[06:22] <bas_> tritium, postal2 is crashing whith the ubuntu respos.
[06:22] <eth0> hi, could anyone help me burn a bin/cue file?
[06:22] <tritium_> jdl: why is a new one needed?
[06:22] <Jadi> !easysource
[06:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:23] <bas_> not with the drivers compiled from Nvidia website
[06:23] <tritium_> bas_: postal2?
[06:23] <bas_> yes
[06:23] <St_Iron> i have used the following command: cdrecord -tao Nexuiz -v
[06:23] <Swedes> I'm using umbuntu for the first time and wanna access a sertain irc channel.What shall I type to do so?
[06:23] <tritium_> no idea what postal2 is
[06:23] <bas_> game
[06:23] <qt4x11> hi i installed a program that put a script in /etc/init.d - this script doesn't seem to execute upon reboot.  is there anything i have to do to get it to execute on reboot?
[06:23] <St_Iron> and don't do anything...
[06:23] <Plouj> I don't get this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//KernelHowto it tells me to apt-get kernel-package and gcc-3.4 but apt can't find those packages: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4 Couldn't find package kernel-package
[06:23] <tritium_> oh, no wonder I don't know what that is
[06:23] <LjL> St_Iron: google "cd writing howto", first page you'll find is a very good guide
[06:23] <tritium_> Plouj: you may need to setup additional repost
[06:23] <St_Iron> ok, er, google, yes
[06:23] <bas_> tritium,  http://www.gopostal.com/
[06:23] <jdl> tritium_ Kernel is really old right now...Wanting to up-rev to current.
[06:24] <egon_spengler> Swedes: If you want one on this freenode, just use /join #channelname
[06:24] <Plouj> tritium_: which ones?
[06:24] <jdl> Current nvidia driver doesn't.
[06:24] <LjL> Plouj: tried "sudo apt-get update"?
[06:24] <tritium_> Plouj: hmm, no, kernel-package is in main.  never mind
[06:24] <St_Iron> my fingers are faster than my brain today... :(
[06:24] <ompaul> St_Iron, what do you want to record?
[06:24] <Plouj> LjL: I'm actually logged in as root
[06:24] <tritium_> jdl: oh, so it's not really about actuall _need_
[06:24] <St_Iron> a directory
[06:24] <Plouj> LjL: yes, I apt-get update(d) first
[06:24] <tritium_> actual, even
[06:24] <St_Iron> ompaul: a game directory, called nexuiz
[06:24] <jdl> tritium_, Current nvidia driver needs to be compiled, might as well grab new sources to do so...
[06:25] <LjL> Plouj: hm, well, perhaps you have a problem with your mirrors -- the gcc-3.4 package is there in main for me
[06:25] <ompaul> St_Iron,  okay so is it okay to tar it up?
[06:25] <Plouj> LjL: I just installed ubuntu, how can I have a problem?
[06:25] <tritium_> jdl: if you want.  module compilation only requires that you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed, though
[06:25] <gnomefreak> jdl: why do they need to be compiled i didnt compile mine yesterday
[06:25] <St_Iron> ompaul: no, i don't
[06:25] <Plouj> wouldn't a lot more people have problems then?
[06:25] <xophEr> any idea why my ide-devices work really slow? I mean I can burn a dvd at a speed of 2x only, when the writer supports 16x and the media 8x.. What should I check first?
[06:25] <LjL> Plouj: dunno, perhaps the mirrors you're using are down or somewhat broken currently? try a simple "apt-get install gcc-3.4"
[06:25] <ompaul> St_Iron, is that no you don't have a problem, or yes it would be a problem?
[06:26] <jdl> tritium_ Need is an odd word.  If you hack linux for a living, then anything older than the current -rc candidate is, um "old". :-)
[06:26] <Plouj> LjL: E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4
[06:26] <gnomefreak> Plouj: please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file on to pastebin
[06:26] <LjL> Plouj: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin?
[06:26] <erik__> how do you get "apt-get" Im new to linux
[06:26] <Plouj> ya
[06:27] <LjL> !tell erik__ about shortapt
[06:27] <gnomefreak> erik__: apt-get is configured and installed
[06:27] <Biggi> Hello. Does anyone know how to make Konqueror open my folders in seperate windows in stead of tabs?
[06:27] <gnomefreak> erik__: what are you trying to do?
[06:27] <tritium_> jdl: :)
[06:27] <alolex> what file system type should I use?
[06:27] <alolex> reiser?
[06:27] <gnomefreak> ext 3
[06:27] <Plouj> gnomefreak: http://paste.opsat.net/?/303/
[06:27] <Plouj> LjL: http://paste.opsat.net/?/303/
[06:27] <Plouj> actually, there are no comments in there
[06:27] <Plouj> thats the only line in my soucres.list
[06:27] <LjL> Plouj: your sources.list is broken.
[06:27] <tritium_> alolex: if you don't have a reason not to, you should stick with ext3
[06:27] <tyler_> how can i activate xpdf as root in mc... which i can do as user?
[06:27] <tyler_> how can i activate xpdf as root in mc... which i can do as user?
[06:28] <LjL> Plouj: how did you install ubuntu? expert mode or something?
[06:28] <alolex> thx
[06:28] <gnomefreak> Plouj: do you have internet on your ubuntu box?
[06:28] <Plouj> LjL: no, not expert
[06:28] <erik__> I have just read that its used for for fixing things and I do not know anything about it
[06:28] <Plouj> gnomefreak: yeah, I'm using it right now, booted into a different OS
[06:28] <LjL> !tell Plouj about easysource
[06:28] <LjL> Plouj: that should help you build a working sources.list
[06:28] <jmendelblatt> Does anyone know which graphical toolkit OpenOffice utilizes (linux version)?
[06:28] <Plouj> gosh
[06:28] <Plouj> why do I have to build it myself?!
[06:28] <zarephath> !tell zarephath about easysource
[06:28] <iBalo> jmendelblatt: gtk
[06:29] <LjL> Plouj: because for some reason you don't have a working one?
[06:29] <jmendelblatt> iBalo: are you sure about this?
[06:29] <Plouj> :/
[06:29] <LjL> Plouj: it's just a matter of checking the stuff you want and then pasting.
[06:29] <Plouj> good
[06:29] <zarephath> Oops..sorry about that everyone
[06:29] <iBalo> jmendelblatt: you an tekk by just _looking_ at it
[06:29] <gnomefreak> Plouj: you will need the repos enabled to get gcc i dont think it is on disk
[06:29] <iBalo> 'tell'
[06:29] <LjL> gnomefreak: it isn't.
[06:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Plouj about sources
[06:30] <Plouj> too much info
[06:30] <Plouj> hang on
[06:30] <LjL> gnomefreak: though it's puzzling that his ubuntu didn't generate the standard sources.list
[06:30] <vniki> gnomefreak in what system have u install xgl? dapper?
[06:30] <gnomefreak> LjL: they might have he just didnt give all that
[06:30] <erik__> I am not trying to do anything right now but how do I access "apt-get"?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> vniki: its only out for dapper cant be used in breezy
[06:31] <LjL> erik__: from a terminal.
[06:31] <LjL> erik__: apps / accessories / terminal, or something
[06:31] <jmendelblatt> iBalo: This being true.....do you think that this will influence people in switching to Gnome over Kde?
[06:31] <alolex> is there a driver for windows XP to access ext3 file system with write permission?
[06:31] <wastrel> i would be very happy if the audio in my flash plugin synced with the video...  any idea if this is fixable?
[06:31] <vniki> ah, oks!
[06:31] <vniki> thx for all.
[06:31] <Odice> how can i make my usb joystick to work?, it shows itself in the device manager but when i run jscalibration, it doesn recognize it
[06:31] <erik__> Thanks Ljk
[06:31] <LjL> alolex: "ext2 windows" finds at least two possibilities. not sure about write support though
[06:31] <gnomefreak> vniki: also its not worth upgradeing to dapper for it
[06:32] <Chocobo> Hi all.  I have a friend with ubuntu.   What is the package name he needs to enable java applets in his browser?
[06:32] <alolex> hmm thx LjL
[06:32] <tritium_> !java
[06:32] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:32] <clearscreen> bweh
[06:32] <St_Iron> !cdrecord
[06:32] <ubotu> St_Iron: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:33] <Chocobo> !javadebs
[06:33] <LjL> alolex: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd this one appears to have write support, while the others appear to lack it
[06:33] <LjL> alolex: if it were my filesystem, though, i wouldn't trust it
[06:33] <clearscreen> I installed dapper thinking it had somewhat more driver support.. after few hours searching(and installing dapper) I found out that it doesnt work on dapper, only on breezy.. lol
[06:33] <tritium_> clearscreen: which?
[06:33] <cppnewbie> here i am back again and i must say:
[06:33] <cppnewbie> you guys RULE! ;p
[06:33] <student> hi
[06:34] <clearscreen> which driver tritium?
[06:34] <tritium_> right
[06:34] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: we know :) j/k
[06:34] <student> hi
[06:34] <cppnewbie> lol
[06:34] <LjL> cppnewbie: by the way, did you say 1280x1024?
[06:34] <tritium_> hi student
[06:34] <student> lol
[06:34] <student> hi
[06:34] <cppnewbie> ya ljl
[06:34] <cppnewbie> its ok now :D
[06:34] <clearscreen> tritium_ my acer 5023WMLI network adapter :P
[06:34] <LjL> cppnewbie: do you know pixels aren't square with that resolution?
[06:34] <student> asl
[06:34] <gnomefreak> student: not in here this is a support channel
[06:34] <cppnewbie> i never gave a damn actually but it doesnt tire my eyes that much :p
[06:34] <tritium_> clearscreen: dapper didn't drop any nic drivers
[06:35] <clearscreen> I know
[06:35] <LjL> cppnewbie: well, just keep in mind that pictures and stuff will be distorted.
[06:35] <tritium_> student: please stop that
[06:35] <student> hi
[06:35] <Krillancello> The hell?
[06:35] <cppnewbie> doesnt matter :D
[06:35] <gnomefreak> what worked in breezy will work in dapper when dapper is released most drivers work in dapper now
[06:35] <Krillancello> I just tried to remove XChat with gnome-app-install, and it said there was something depending on it.
[06:35] <Krillancello> What hell depends on XChat? O_o
[06:35] <clearscreen> tritium_ but it just wont install my windows-only drivers through ndiswrapper..
[06:35] <clearscreen> and Ive read that it's a common dapper bug .. lol
[06:35] <concept10> could someone check my app and tell me if the log in is too slow? http://67.166.167.125:3000/user
[06:36] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: ubuntu-desktop?
[06:36] <clearscreen> FFS
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ty tritium_
[06:36] <Krillancello> gnomefreak: I didn't install that. I did a 'server' install and installed Gnome and X myself.
[06:36] <clearscreen> I was at 90% ubuntu dvd download
[06:36] <LjL> cppnewbie: ok, but you could still consider using 1280x960, or 1400x1050, or, hmm what was that, 1350x1024?
[06:36] <clearscreen> YAY Firefox crashed -_-
[06:36] <cppnewbie> but since u told me about setting up nvidia graph card itself, do i need something specific to fix the nforce thing? :S
[06:36] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: what is it saying it depends on
[06:36] <cppnewbie> well if i come up with any problems ljl at least ill know what to do know
[06:36] <gnomefreak> clearscreen: everything depedns on something
[06:36] <cppnewbie> if i dont forget it that is :P
[06:37] <Krillancello> gnome-app-install doesn't say what depends on what. It just says "Something depends on this program, use Advanced mode (Synaptic)."
[06:37] <LjL> cppnewbie: i dunno, i just followed the howto for nvidia cards, and it worked fine and easy for me
[06:37] <cppnewbie> same here lol :D
[06:37] <roico> any1 using ff1.5?
[06:37] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: apt-get install whatever will tell you what depends on it and more than likely install them after asking you
[06:38] <Spec> apt-cache showpkg <packagename> will tell you more information than you'll want, including what depends on it, etc etc
[06:38] <cppnewbie> so anyone knows if ive got to do something specific concerning the nforce chipset drivers? :D
[06:38] <tritium_> Krillancello: apt-cache depends <packagename>
[06:38] <Spec> oh, i suppose you could do that, too, :p
[06:38] <gnomefreak> that too :)
[06:38] <tritium_> :):
[06:39] <Krillancello> gnomefreak: I'm trying to remove XChat, and I just didn't realize there was something I'd installed that actually depended on it. Although now I'm seeing (in Synaptic) that xchat-common is installed, and it seems to be the obtrusive package (even though, logically speaking, the dependency should be reversed.)
[06:39] <Spec> i always just use showpkg
[06:40] <jdl> So If I have more than one linux-headers package installed, which one will the nvidia installer use by default?  Or do I need to tell it which one to grab?
[06:40] <roico> any1 using ff1.5?
[06:40] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[06:40] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:40] <LjL> Krillancello: hm? it seems quite logical to me that xchat-common depends on xchat, or have i misunderstood that?
[06:40] <gnomefreak> jdl: the kernel your booted too i think
[06:40] <ompaul> roico, ^^^ have a look at that link
[06:40] <Biggi> w
[06:40] <roico> !ff1.5
[06:40] <roico> ?
[06:40] <jdl> gnomefreak Thanks.
[06:40] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:40] <roico> nice lol
[06:40] <wastrel> how do i get the audio to sync with the video in the flash plugin for mozilla?
[06:40] <ompaul> !linux headers
[06:40] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[06:40] <khaosix> salut
[06:41] <Krillancello> LjL: From the names, you would think xchat would depend on xchat-common, as most *-common packages are the parts of an app that are required by all versions of it (client/server, or in this case xchat/xchat-text/xchat-gnome).
[06:41] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove --purge xchat should get rid of xchat and config files (should remove xchat-common also
[06:41] <khaosix> sa
[06:41] <LjL> Krillancello: it does.
[06:41] <LjL> Krillancello: but xchat-common *also* depends on xchat, which seems reasonable to me
[06:41] <cppnewbie> how do i check if a package is installed? what command?
[06:41] <LjL> cppnewbie: "apt-cache policy packagename"
[06:41] <gnomefreak> you cant run xchat without xchat common being installed
[06:41] <cppnewbie> what do ya mean policy? :S
[06:42] <LjL> cppnewbie: ?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: type that command you will see
[06:42] <tritium_> that's the command, cppnewbie
[06:42] <cppnewbie> ah
[06:42] <Krillancello> LjL: xchat-common actually depends on "xchat | xchat-text | xchat-gnome."
[06:42] <LjL> cppnewbie: it's the apt-cache parameter
[06:42] <cppnewbie> i didnt realize lol
[06:42] <Das> hi
[06:42] <Krillancello> I just wanted to replace xchat with xchat-gnome, because I've wanted to test xchat-gnome out for a while but haven't gotten around to it.
[06:42] <nosilver4u> wastrel: you can't, macromedia compiled it wrong
[06:42] <LjL> Krillancello: yeah, but i still don't see a problem with that... it seems quite natural that xchat-common would depend on xchat. what's the purpose of xchat-common without xchat installed?
[06:42] <Krillancello> But xchat-common had to make it a bigger brewhaha than it needed to be.
[06:43] <LjL> Krillancello: but if you check xchat, xchat *also* depends on xchat-common
[06:43] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: i think its the other way around i think you can install xchat-common without any other xchat packages
[06:43] <drbombay43> is there anyone here running dr17 wm?
[06:43] <Das> yes
[06:43] <gnomefreak> dr17???
[06:43] <Das> wat?
[06:43] <wastrel> nosilver4u:  jolly.  we'll have to hexedit the binary to fix?  ;] 
[06:43] <LjL> gnomefreak: well actually not, since xchat-common depends on xchat or xchat-text or xchat-gnome
[06:43] <gnomefreak> did they change the name of it?
[06:44] <ompaul> Das, for whom or in reply to what was the yes for?
[06:44] <LjL> (though it really only depends on xchat or xchat-text for me, weird)
[06:44] <drbombay43> Das; do you also have Gnome install
[06:44] <jdl> gnomefreak Had to supply -k `uname -r` to nvidia instller after all.
[06:44] <Krillancello> gnomefreak, LjL: I misread its description. It says it's useless without one of the three xchat packages.
[06:44] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: correct
[06:44] <Krillancello> Well, this is nice...
[06:44] <Krillancello> I removed xchat and xchat-common, and installed xchat-gnome...
[06:44] <gnomefreak> i suggest irssi :)
[06:45] <LjL> i suggest telnet
[06:45] <Krillancello> ... now when I try to tell it to install xchat-common again, it wants to replace xchat-gnome with xchat.
[06:45] <Krillancello> Bastard packages.
[06:45] <erik__> any one install yahoo messanger on breezy?
[06:45] <drbombay43> gnomefreak; Enlightenment development release 17
[06:45] <LjL> Krillancello: check xchat-common again -- on my sistem, it wants either xchat or xchat-text, no xchat-gnome
[06:45] <tritium_> erik__: most people use gaim instead
[06:45] <gnomefreak> erik__: its not worth it yahoo sucks on linux
[06:45] <LjL> erik__: i tried once. it installs without problems, but there are valid alternatives
[06:46] <gnomefreak> drbombay43: ahhhhhhh it used to be e17 but i guess they name the devel dr
[06:46] <erik__> Thanks all
[06:46] <drbombay43> yes
[06:46] <Krillancello> LjL: If I install xchat-common, it automatically installs xchat and uninstalls xchat-gnome. If I install xchat-gnome, it uninstalls the other two.
[06:46] <Krillancello> So fsck xchat-gnome.
[06:46] <Krillancello> It's not worth my time.
[06:46] <tritium_> Krillancello: are you using dapper?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: you cant have xchat-gnome and xchat on the system at same time in breezy
[06:47] <Krillancello> tritium_: Breezy.
[06:47] <LjL> Krillancello: that's why i said to check xchat-common again... you said it depends on xchat-gnome | xchat | xchat-text, but for me it only depends on xchat | xchat-text
[06:47] <gnomefreak> dapper allows you both and xchat-gnome is default
[06:47] <LjL> Krillancello: (and actually, that's only for version 2.4 -- version 2.6, from backports, wants *only* xchat)
[06:47] <Krillancello> LjL: That's right. I said that I misread the description which said it's useless without one of the three.
[06:48] <Chocobo> Ok, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages   This does NOT work.
[06:48] <LjL> Krillancello: yes, my descript says the same thing, but the dependencies don't reflect that
[06:48] <zarephath> What does the line in xorg.conf "DRI" Mode 0666 do for X?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Chocobo about seveas
[06:48] <cppnewbie> in here my ntfs hd cant be recognized by ubuntu
[06:48] <cppnewbie> says like its not a disk or something
[06:48] <gnomefreak> Chocobo: go to that site and there should be alternitives
[06:48] <equador> why my internet is very slow, when i trying connect ? when i connected internet be faster
[06:48] <equador> ?
[06:48] <cppnewbie> or its corrupted or something like it
[06:48] <drbombay43> how is breezy  coming along everyone or anyone' and when is the next release due?
[06:48] <elzapp> This is not a ubuntu specific question, but is there a file in /proc or /sys or a command that can tell me weither there is an external monitor connected to my laptop
[06:48] <brannrev> could someone please give me a direct dl link to the Ubuntu.iso file? have lost my CD
[06:48] <elzapp> ?
[06:49] <LjL> cppnewbie: what command did you use to mount it?
[06:49] <brannrev> located in Europe
[06:49] <Chocobo> gnomefreak, we have tries three mirrors so far :/
[06:49] <clearscreen> brannrev
[06:49] <gnomefreak> equador: it could be a problem with your isp
[06:49] <equador> why my internet is very slow, when i trying connect ? when i connected internet be faster
[06:49] <clearscreen> www.ubuntu.com
[06:49] <cppnewbie> i dunno a friend did it for me
[06:49] <cppnewbie> :p
[06:49] <equador> how
[06:49] <equador> fix it ?
[06:49] <cppnewbie> however, when ubuntu was installed in the first place
[06:49] <gnomefreak> equador: they could be working on it we support breezy not internet
[06:49] <cppnewbie> an sda1 hd appeared
[06:49] <elzapp> brannrev: sunsite.uio.no should have it
[06:49] <cppnewbie> but still it couldnt b accessed
[06:49] <Krillancello> Okay, so how the hell do I get xchat-common and xchat-gnome on Breezy?
[06:50] <Krillancello> Or can I?
[06:50] <tritium_> Krillancello: please calm down
[06:50] <LjL> Krillancello: i'm afraid you don't.
[06:50] <equador> ok :)
[06:50] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: sudo apt-get isntall xchat
[06:50] <brannrev> cheers
[06:50] <gnomefreak> install even
[06:50] <nubbe> Is there any need to start Firestarter on start-up?
[06:50] <seraphim> no
[06:51] <Krillancello> gnomefreak: That wants to remove xchat-gnome as well.
[06:51] <gnomefreak> brb
[06:51] <nubbe> just when I want to change firewall-rules?
[06:51] <nubbe> only
[06:51] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: yes you can not have xchat-gnome and xchat on same system at same time
[06:51] <LjL> Krillancello: can you keep *both* xchat and xchat-gnome installed? i don't think i'm seeing any Conflicts about that
[06:51] <clearscreen> note to myself
[06:51] <clearscreen> do NOT click any links from mirc anymore
[06:51] <gnomefreak> LjL: not in breezy you cant
[06:51] <clearscreen> will crash firefox :P
[06:51] <brannrev> do I want the ia64 or the i386 version?
[06:51] <LjL> Krillancello: sorry, gnomefreak is right. there is a Conflicts
[06:51] <brannrev> Intel puter
[06:51] <gnomefreak> dapper you can
[06:51] <gnomefreak> atleast used to beable to
[06:52] <Krillancello> Would dapper require a complete reinstallation?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> i stopped using xchat a while ago :)
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: if it gets borked yes
[06:52] <ompaul> Krillancello, no it would be upgrading to unstable, it will be stable from 20th April
[06:52] <Krillancello> gnomefreak: I mean going from Breezy to Dapper.
[06:52] <rupan3> is there anything i need to consider/worry about using chsh to change my shell to zsh?
[06:52] <deepwoodz> i need help with confile .c n .h files to make drivers for my xbox 360 controller
[06:52] <LjL> Krillancello: just yesterday, dapper users were stuck with their Gnome segfaulting on startup, because of a broken GTK. so i suggest you stay away from Dapper until it's released
[06:52] <Krillancello> LjL: April?
[06:52] <brannrev> do I want the ia64 or the i386 version? on an intel PC
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: you can upgrade to it with apt but dapper can and will break on you at a moments notice
[06:53] <LjL> Krillancello: unless you want to help debugging it that is
[06:53] <LjL> Krillancello: yeah
[06:53] <erez> cd
[06:53] <gnomefreak> Krillancello: dapper will not be released till april 20th
[06:53] <erik__> Sorry about the newbie questions.  So now that I am using Ubuntu and I want to download linux programs, If Ubuntu is not listed am I out of luck or can I use any Linux program?
[06:53] <Coffee> Hb?
[06:53] <Krillancello> I'll just wait until April. This laptop I have Ubuntu on has a habit of being unstable as it is. I don't need to add onto that an unstable OS. >_>;
[06:53] <LjL> erik__: you can probably use a program even if there's not a version specific to ubuntu. but anyway, have you double and triple-checked that the programs you want are not in the APT repositories?
[06:53] <ompaul> erik__, that is a very broad question
[06:53] <oskude> erik__, in "worst" case you can compile it your self
[06:53] <gnomefreak> Coffee: english in this channel
[06:54] <equador> erik__, you can use any linux programs
[06:54] <tritium_> erik__: ideally, you should try to use ubuntu packages.  There are > 17k packages
[06:54] <gnomefreak> 18k
[06:54] <ompaul> !tell erik__ about universe
[06:54] <gnomefreak> !info breezy
[06:54] <oskude> erik__, and in very worst case you have to compile the libraries that the programs uses also yourself
[06:54] <ompaul> oskude, I have not had to do that since moving to Ubuntu :-)
[06:54] <mlehrer> does ubuntu have a way to measure case temperatures & fan rpms
[06:54] <gnomefreak> erik__: stay away from .rpbs and stick with .debs or tars
[06:55] <LjL> mlehrer: lm-sensors
[06:55] <clearscreen> hmmmmm just a general question.. I want the cd version of ubuntu but only have dvd's to burn it on.. will that work? (burning cd iso's onto dvd discs)
[06:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mlehrer about sensors
[06:55] <ompaul> mlehrer, there is lmsensors it needs configuring and stuff
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> clearscreen,  i dont think so
[06:55] <tritium_> and if you use tarballs, consider using checkinstall
[06:55] <LjL> gnomefreak: 17874 for me ;)
[06:55] <Coffee> Please help me. I setup ubuntu Linux. My password is correct.
[06:55] <oskude> erik__, are you talking about a particular software, or just curious ?
[06:55] <gnomefreak> clearscreen: no it wont work
[06:55] <redrose> how can i modify permission so that only root can access the network?
[06:55] <Coffee> But it say it is fail.
[06:55] <redrose> so that only root can make network connections?
[06:55] <stendhal> redrose,  sudo ?
[06:56] <gnomefreak> LjL:  the bot used to say it but dont remember off hand
[06:56] <tritium_> Coffee: you need to be far more specific please
[06:56] <clearscreen> heh ok I'll look for an empty cd :p
[06:56] <clearscreen> and found one :P
[06:56] <erik__> Just curious I have been using Ubuntu 24hrs and have never been on a Linux OS before
[06:56] <redrose> stendhal, no, i mean so that normal users can't access the network...
[06:56] <hypa7ia> hey, anyone know how to become a package maintainer?
[06:56] <stendhal> redrose,  yes i think
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> erik__,  time to get reading! :P at least you got it installed.
[06:56] <clearscreen> hahaha my windows is seriously messed up
[06:56] <oskude> erik__, roger and remember, anyone was noob at some point :)
[06:56] <redrose> stendhal, sudo will allow people to ruin a command as root, not block off network access
[06:56] <gnomefreak> xgl disabled synaptic :(
[06:56] <rupan3> anybody? i'm not gonna break anything using chsh to change my shell?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> brb gonna restart x
[06:57] <ompaul> erik__, okay first up click on System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager
[06:57] <tritium_> hypa7ia: you could pursue becoming an MOTU
[06:57] <clearscreen> it just crashed and restored explorer 10 times in a row and then it worked again -_-
[06:57] <ompaul> erik__, after that read the link I had the bot send you
[06:57] <hypa7ia> tritium_: ah cool i'd forgotten about that
[06:57] <Coffee> Just. My login password is correct. But system says it is error.
[06:57] <hypa7ia> tritium_: there's just a known bug in the rmagick package that makes it useless
[06:57] <tamer> hi people!
[06:57] <ompaul> erik__, think of a job - maybe "editor" and then click on search and have a poke around
[06:57] <LjL> Coffee: remember that everything (user names and passwords) is case sensitive
[06:58] <hypa7ia> tritium_: and the maintainer is awol
[06:58] <tamer> How do I enable the keyboard switcher on ubuntu?
[06:58] <tritium_> hypa7ia: known as in reported?
[06:58] <hypa7ia> tritium_: yup
[06:58] <tamer> I am going crazy... I have to use on kde several languages
[06:58] <Coffee> Yes. I setup it just now.
[06:58] <b3nw> where is the file that contains the settings from Session> Starut Programs ?
[06:58] <redrose> how can i modify permission so that only root can access the network? so that normal users can't hit the internet, but root can...
[06:58] <ompaul> erik__, on the top panel you see the "life saver" click that little red and white icon it will present lots of help to you
[06:59] <oskude> redrose, maybe in /etc/groups and taiking your users from net or so (just quessing!!!)
[06:59] <rupan3> Coffee: reboot into recovery mode and type(where <username> is the login): passwd <username>
[06:59] <tritium_> hypa7ia: yep, that package is in universe.  Did you file the bug?  on malone?
[06:59] <redrose> oskude, what do you mean taking them from net?
[06:59] <erik__> Thanks I have been poking around
[07:00] <cppnewbie> so any suggestions on how i could browse my ntfs sda1 drive? :S
[07:00] <clearscreen> redrose maybe very dirty way but Id say remove their permissions on stuff like /etc/init.d/networking :P
[07:01] <Coffee> Should I order to something? I first use Linux .
[07:01] <LjL> cppnewbie: not besides what's on the ntfs howto page, really...
[07:01] <LjL> !tell cppnewbie about ntfs
[07:01] <ompaul> redrose, maybe something like squid and dansguardian, kinda hard to think like that for me, you could do something mad with a firewall, what kind of setup are you talking about - office - home -school ?
[07:01] <sesq> yo, do you know nice addons to Fluxbox ?
[07:01] <tritium_> not a good idea, clearscreen
[07:01] <redrose> school
[07:01] <oskude> redrose, or maybe take your users name out from "dialout:x:20:osku,cupsys" in /etc/group (but im still just quessing!!)
[07:01] <clearscreen> tritium_ told him it was dirty :P
[07:01] <b3nw> where is the file that contains the settings from Session> Starut Programs ?
[07:02] <oskude> redrose, and that doesnt "sound" to work with external "dialouts" (like dsl router=)
[07:02] <erik__> thanks for all the tips
[07:02] <redrose> it's eth0 thatr i need to block
[07:02] <oskude> redrose, if that "dialout" has even nothing to do with network...
[07:02] <clearscreen> wish me luck, installing ubuntu breezy on my acer laptop to eventually get kubuntu + wireless :p
[07:02] <Coffee> Oh! I see. Thank you rupan3.
[07:02] <tritium_> lunch time.
[07:03] <cppnewbie> tried whats on the page for the first step
[07:03] <cppnewbie> says wget http//www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[07:03] <b3nw> no one knows? :\
[07:03] <Engla> I need the following: A tool that renames pictures in a folder so they are sorted by date. Not mtime, but the exif date. Exists?
[07:03] <cppnewbie> however it says that http is unknown
[07:03] <cppnewbie> or something like that
[07:03] <sesq> do you know nice addons to Fluxbox ?
[07:03] <redrose> ompaul, i need to block ALL access, on any port to every user but root, which is why i want to block access to the netowrk
[07:03] <Coffee> Bye. I will go to try.
[07:03] <cppnewbie> that the name or service is unknown
[07:03] <oskude> redrose, i know what you want, i just have never done that so im just quessing...
[07:03] <redrose> yeah
[07:04] <erik__> Got to go now Thanks again
[07:04] <LjL> cppnewbie: that's supposed to be http:// , with a colon
[07:04] <oskude> redrose, and i doubt iptables can restirct users
[07:04] <cppnewbie> whoops
[07:04] <cppnewbie> missed it
[07:05] <redrose> yeah... is there any way to set a permission on eth0?
[07:05] <cppnewbie> Ignoring /dev/sda1 - already in /etc/fstab <---- wtf?
[07:05] <ompaul> redrose, I am off researching so I will talk in a few mins when I get an answer if there is one
[07:05] <LjL> cppnewbie: means your friend already added it to /etc/fstab, which is the file that lists all mountable partitions
[07:06] <dstryr> how do you mount your floppy drive?
[07:06] <cppnewbie> so thats not the problem? :S
[07:06] <LjL> cppnewbie: whether he added it correctly is another matter
[07:06] <cppnewbie> how can i find out? ;)
[07:06] <ompaul> redrose, it is a strange requirement, honeytrap?
[07:06] <LjL> dstryr: i use "sudo mount /media/floppy"
[07:06] <redrose> thanks for the help all
[07:06] <LjL> cppnewbie: paste your /etc/fstab on the pastebin
[07:06] <gnomefreak> xgl borked synaptic lol
[07:06] <redrose> ompaul, no, my teacher let me install linux, but doesn't want anyone but root to be able to access the internet
[07:06] <gnomefreak> even after removing the sym link :(
[07:07] <cppnewbie> and what would be the link to the pastebin? :|
[07:07] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[07:07] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:07] <dstryr> LjL, mount: you must specify the filesystem type <<< ?
[07:08] <ompaul> redrose, is it for web browsing only or anything else?
[07:08] <LjL> dstryr: try "sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy"
[07:08] <cppnewbie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9682
[07:08] <once1er> anyone else find it ironic that the _last_ user surfing the internet should be root. hell, blocking internet connectivity for root could be a good idea
[07:09] <LjL> cppnewbie: hm, that looks correct, except that your HD will be only accessible by root
[07:09] <hypa7ia> tritium: The creator of the last version (from Oct) has no email address posted or contactinfo
[07:09] <LjL> cppnewbie: what does "sudo mount /media/sda1" tell you?
[07:09] <hypa7ia> tritium: there are 3 major bugs on it in malone
[07:09] <LjL> once1er: except you need it to install packages =)
[07:09] <once1er> redrose: disable eth0 on startup, and have the login scripts enable and disable it
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> once1er,  or the fact that under windows XP - basicially every user has the abulity to surf the web and trash the box with spywware
[07:09] <once1er> eh, download the packages as a normal user and install as root
[07:09] <redrose> once1er, how do i disable it on bootup>
[07:10] <LjL> once1er: and throw APT away? =)
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> once1er,  heh - chroot jail apt-get :P
[07:10] <once1er> redrose: /etc/networking/interfaces
[07:10] <redrose> ompaul, no everything, so that they can't make any connection to anywhere...
[07:10] <cppnewbie> hmm
[07:10] <once1er> open that file, comment out the "auto eth0" line
[07:10] <cppnewbie> now i get a different error than before
[07:10] <ompaul> redrose, I have been doing this stuff for years, and I have never had to lock a box like that, so what I would say is that you don't even let root out
[07:11] <cppnewbie> sda1:access denied
[07:11] <ompaul> redrose, firewall everything
[07:11] <cppnewbie> :S
[07:11] <LjL> cppnewbie: uh, did you use sudo?
[07:11] <cppnewbie> yepo
[07:12] <once1er> redrose: i say, get a new teacher
[07:12] <LjL> cppnewbie: i don't understand that.
[07:12] <cppnewbie> neither do i lol :D
[07:12] <trpr42> redrose: heh. the teacher is loco. if you want to control access, control who you give accounts to and log what they do. have an acceptable use policy to deal with violations of the policy you are describing
[07:12] <cppnewbie> well about me its norma
[07:12] <cppnewbie> l
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> unplug the pc from the net. :P
[07:13] <oskude> well, i think this should be an easy task for linux, to restrict users net usage...
[07:13] <jockell> question: dmesg reports timestamps as [52616.083865]  . Is it possible to convert that to a human readable timeformat ?
[07:13] <oskude> but i cant find nothing in google neither..
[07:14] <redrose> once1er, it won't do it, if i modify /etc/network/interface to disallow eth0 at boot up, it won't do it..
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall some iptables discussion threads/docs/articals on limiting user  bandwith and so forth.
[07:14] <cppnewbie> ljl my hd that i cant go in to is sda1. the command to open it using sudo would be?
[07:14] <once1er> redrose: it won't disable eth0? or it won't stop someone accessing the internet?
[07:15] <redrose> it boot with eth0 up... also, i'm not looking to take eth0 down totally, just when anyone but root tries to access iut...
[07:15] <LjL> cppnewbie: the command to *mount* it would be "sudo mount /media/sda1", or you could even try "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1" -- the command to *look* into it depends -- you could use "sudo nautilus /media/sda1"
[07:15] <LjL> but it must be mounted anyway
[07:15] <deus> How can i find the correct title and chapter the dvd is on?
[07:15] <deus> i talking about mplayer
[07:16] <cppnewbie> well
[07:16] <ompaul> redrose read this -->  http://squid-docs.sourceforge.net/latest/book-full.html <--- so the user that is installed first which is not root cos we disable root is treated like root when they use sudo or gksudo, so if that password is protected and that account not used then the rest of them can be blocked using squid, document named at the front of this is the handbook, that is the only solution I can give you, and that will work, providing you work within u
[07:16] <ompaul> buntu, for further info, if you want to change the "non root" ways of ubuntu do this >>/msg ubotu root<< enjoy
[07:16] <ompaul> redrose almost accurate, that user is treated as UID0 when they use sudo/gksudo
[07:16] <redrose> ompaul, i use root, i made a root password, and the user first created has been stripped...
[07:16] <fletch33> afternoon all i was hoping someone could tell me how to stop synaptic from telling me there are updates available for a particular piece of software because i upgraded it myself to a newer version already and it keeps trying to put it back to the old version by telling me an update is available
[07:17] <once1er> redrose: i don't know of a way that you can block everyone else, which is why i figured you could just have root enable the device whenever it was needed. if modding that file didn't help, i know its settable through the gnome network configuration app. And then you can just do ifup eth0   ifdown eth0 when needed
[07:17] <redrose> ok
[07:17] <LjL> redrose (and ompaul, once1er, etc) ---- "man iptables", line 497 ---    --uid-owner userid    Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given effective user id.
[07:18] <ompaul> LjL, nice one, redrose so you can use squid in that fashion also, I would never tell you to use root or to put a password in ubuntu, I don't see a need
[07:18] <dstryr> how do you clear your bash history?
[07:18] <oskude> LjL, thnx, so iptables can determine user too. cool.
[07:18] <once1er> LjL: well fine, now we all look like idiots
[07:18] <once1er> good to know though
[07:18] <cppnewbie> ljl i can view it now but when i try to copy a file from sda1 to the desktop i get the message that such a file doesnt exist
[07:19] <ompaul> dstryr, cat >.bash_history<< then CtrlC
[07:19] <oskude> but i was hoping something more simple like /etc/group...
[07:19] <wastrel> dstryr:  > ~/.bash_history
[07:19] <LjL> =) no you don't it's just that sometimes we're so much used to google that we forget that man can get to some specific information easier...
[07:20] <oskude> as you can say who can use audio,cdrom,etc in /etc/group, why not net too...
[07:20] <trpr42> once1er: that sounds like a reasonable solution. keep the interface down except when its needed. then root can enable and disable it
[07:20] <LjL> cppnewbie: that it doesn't exist? not that you do not have permissions for it?
[07:20] <once1er> actually, iptables supports the --gid-owner too
[07:20] <once1er> you could in theory setup a "net" group
[07:20] <once1er> and add peopel to it
[07:20] <LjL> once1er: yep
[07:20] <LjL> once1er: yep that would certainly be the "cleanest" thing to do
[07:20] <amed> hello every body
[07:21] <wastrel> actually you could just remove .bash_history
[07:21] <once1er> Maybe this is something that could be added to future versions of ubuntu ?
[07:21] <dstryr> or is there anyway to clear bash history every time you log out?
[07:21] <wastrel> it's not like anything would break if the file is missing.
[07:21] <ompaul> once1er, well that that is more interesting group 0 only
[07:21] <onno> ./join #css
[07:21] <cppnewbie> ljl i dunno at least thats what i get when i drag n drop files from sda1 to za desktop
[07:21] <LjL> once1er: hmm well, it would mean setting very restrictive iptables rules by default... i somehow feel it might have some counter-indications
[07:21] <fletch33> how can i stop synaptic from telling about an available update for a specific piece of software
[07:21] <ompaul> onno, sorry?
[07:21] <cppnewbie> that it doesnt exist that is
[07:21] <trpr42> dstryr: try.... before typing any commands type unset HISTFILE.. the reference to .bash_history is removed.. nothing is logged
[07:21] <once1er> LjL: true, maybe then a blacklist?
[07:21] <wastrel> dstryr:  ln -s ~/.bash_history /dev/null   - you'll never have a history...
[07:22] <wastrel> dstryr:  oops switch the args
[07:22] <wastrel> heh.  i got mixed up
[07:22] <saif> hello, i want to get my webcam to work on ubuntu, it is not automatically detected, how can i find out what chipset it is running?!? is there somethn like lspci?
[07:22] <coleco> Has anybody ever got Cedega running under a full 64 bit install, I can get it to work but when I try to play WoW the text is all distorted but everything else is fine, and when I try to play CS:S text just wont show at all
[07:22] <wastrel> ah better way.
[07:22] <trpr42> dstryr: you would have to do that for every terminal you opened.. disables logging for the current session only
[07:23] <dstryr> ic
[07:23] <Jonnings> Does anyone know how to write to the user-init-file in emacs?
[07:23] <LjL> once1er: a "net" group would be nicer than a blacklist. maybe there would really be nothing wrong with settings such a policy by default, it's just that it would have to be investigated quite thoroughly before making it a default ubuntu thing...
[07:23] <ompaul> once1er, care to put it up on the wiki for future consideration
[07:23] <once1er> redrose: future features of ubuntu aside, it looks like   iptables -A OUTPUT --uid-owner 0 -j ACCEPT   && iptables -P OUTPUT DROP  is about what you want ?
[07:23] <ompaul> once1er, or launchpad more likely
[07:24] <LjL> cppnewbie: try this. unmount first, "sudo umount /media/sda1"
[07:24] <LjL> cppnewbie: then "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 -o ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000"
[07:24] <Jokerman> Hi where can I get the drivers for CS4263B To a old Dell Optiplex Gx 1
[07:24] <erUSUL> Jonnings, open it is called .emacs
[07:24] <Jokerman> I don't have any sound at all.
[07:24] <Krillancello> Would removing/not logging bash history disable the ability to press up and get a previously-used command?
[07:24] <Jonnings> erUSUL: where is it located then?
[07:25] <wastrel> dstryr:  so the best way is probably to put "unset HISTFILE" in your .bash_profile.    or ln -s /dev/null ~/.bash_history
[07:25] <trpr42> Krillancello: that it would
[07:25] <erUSUL> Jonnings, in your home directory
[07:25] <once1er> ompaul: i'll play around with whether or not i really works, and i'll look into it this weekend
[07:25] <cppnewbie> YEAHOO LjL YA RULE! :D sure, now i can even access it with za console :D
[07:25] <wastrel> actually no, in the current session the history is kept in memory it seems.
[07:25] <erUSUL> Jonnings, it is writted in emacs-lisp
[07:25] <wastrel> i just wiped out my history file and still have history for this bash session - the history only gets written when you exit
[07:26] <trpr42> wastrel: changes to the log file are not written until bash closes. the commands you typed just wouldn't carry over from one session to another
[07:26] <LjL> cppnewbie: =) well edit your /etc/fstab so that, on the /dev/sda1 line, it has "ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000" just between the "/media/sda1" and the "0 0"
[07:26] <LjL> cppnewbie: that should make it work by default
[07:26] <wastrel> trpr42:  which one :] 
[07:27] <cppnewbie> lemme c
[07:27] <cyor> Hey anyone familiar with the ubuntu wiki in here?
[07:27] <wastrel> !anyone
[07:27] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[07:28] <cyor> wastrel, please do shut up
[07:28] <trpr42> wastrel: i'm really out of it. pulled an all nighter. i just noticed that what i said is just what you said. pay no mind
[07:28] <oskude> cant compute that facoid, what does it mean ?
[07:29] <funkyHat> cyor, any particular page?
[07:29] <wastrel> cyor:  you mean ubotu :] 
[07:29] <CuriosCat> Hey all.
[07:29] <cyor> funkyHat - no
[07:29] <CuriosCat> I'm installing on a SCSI disk, and running into an mkinitrd problem right after it prompts me what kernel to install
[07:29] <cyor> basically I am trying to sign in to edit a page using my launchpad ID
[07:30] <CuriosCat> (this is breezy)
[07:30] <cyor> one sec
[07:30] <CuriosCat> how do I figure out which kernel I should be installing?
[07:31] <S0me1> sudo CuriosCat, apt-get install kernel
[07:31] <Cyorxamp> Hey although I can sign in to launchpad and my password is ok... I can't seem to sign into the ubuntu wiki using it? anyone have any ideas?
[07:32] <S0me1> CuriosCat, sudo apt-get install kernel
[07:32] <S0me1> sorry ;p
[07:32] <CuriosCat> s0me1: Don't quite have a bash prompt yet :P
[07:32] <LjL> uh, there is no "kernel" package that i can see
[07:32] <CuriosCat> I'm in the middle of the ubuntu installer
[07:33] <LjL> CuriosCat: well, i can tell you that the latest breezy kernel is 2.6.12-10
[07:33] <CuriosCat> I created a 256MB /boot partition, a 16GB / partition and a 2GB swap partition on /dev/sda. No LVM, no RAID, nothing fancy
[07:33] <S0me1> lol
[07:33] <oskude> i think he means i386 or i686 and so on...
[07:33] <CuriosCat> it's giving me a choice between linux-kernel, linux-386-kernel etc
[07:33] <Cyorxamp> nm working now - had to use lowercase username I think
[07:33] <LjL> CuriosCat: oh. what's your processor?
[07:33] <ViriiGuy> Is anyone here running on a M6805 laptop?
[07:33] <CuriosCat> ljl: P3 on this box
[07:33] <LjL> CuriosCat: though you can just install i386
[07:33] <CuriosCat> but the problem seems to be the mkinitrd that follows just afterwards
[07:34] <S0me1> CuriosCat, what is your CPU?
[07:34] <LjL> S0me1: P3
[07:34] <CuriosCat> I just mentioned the kernel selection because it's the last prompt I get before the RSOD
[07:34] <oskude> i install allways the standard 2.6 i386 kernel and update afterwards...
[07:34] <oskude> for p3 take ...i686
[07:34] <S0me1> CuriosCat, ok try uname -a
[07:35] <CuriosCat> s0me1: I'm in the installer...box isn't installed yet..
[07:35] <LjL> CuriosCat: hm, i'm not sure about this, but what exactly is it saying it's going wrong with mkinitrd?
[07:35] <LjL> CuriosCat: you can still get to a shell, at least you should, by pressing alt+f2
[07:35] <CuriosCat> i guess I should check that menu to see if there's an emergency shell I can invoke, huh
[07:35] <CuriosCat> ah, ok
[07:35] <CuriosCat> ljl: I reran it. Let me go copy down the exact error message
[07:35] <CuriosCat> brb
[07:35] <oskude> i remember wikipedia having those i386, i686, etc listed, but cant find anymore...
[07:35] <S0me1> CuriosCat, kernel as your CPU i386 or i686 for Intel
[07:36] <LjL> S0me1: yeah but his problem is that the following mkinitrd fails for some reason
[07:36] <S0me1> CuriosCat, you cannt install any kernel
[07:37] <macewan> hey, whats the apt-get to upgrade gnome but exclude something like kde?
[07:37] <chris12349> does anyone know the command to name a ext filesystem? I have a external drive and I forgot the command to name it so it doesn't look so strange in nautilus
[07:37] <S0me1> CuriosCat, Do you mean recompile kernel?
[07:37] <LjL> macewan: uh?
[07:37] <Apocalyptica> hellow
[07:37] <Apocalyptica> big thx i get Ubuntu Cds
[07:37] <S0me1> :)
[07:37] <macewan> LjL: kde is barfing on the upgrade
[07:37] <Apocalyptica> but some questions
[07:37] <LjL> S0me1: no, he's in the Ubuntu installer. he's got an SCSI drive, which probably requires some relevant model to be included in his kernel's initrd. but that fails
[07:38] <macewan> trying to just exclude it during the grade
[07:38] <macewan> upgrade
[07:38] <S0me1> aha
[07:38] <LjL> macewan: is that a dist-upgrade?
[07:38] <oskude> !cpu
[07:38] <ubotu> oskude: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:38] <macewan> yup
[07:38] <oskude> !architecture
[07:38] <ubotu> oskude: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:38] <Apocalyptica> mans
[07:38] <CarlFK> what is a URL that describes ubuntu-server ?
[07:38] <cppnewbie> libs for playing mp3s perhaps? :S
[07:38] <LjL> macewan: dunno, perhaps try a simple upgrade and see what it tries to do?
[07:38] <CuriosCat> s0me1: I'm not in a state to compile anything.
[07:38] <cppnewbie> ah wait i think ive already asked that one in here
[07:38] <Apocalyptica> SOund Blaster 24 dont work
[07:38] <dstryr> what version are yall using?
[07:39] <CarlFK> I need an answer to "what is a good distro to run apache on?
[07:39] <itaysp> Hello
[07:39] <macewan> LjL: did that,
[07:39] <Apocalyptica> how install Acorp Sprinter@ADSl into Ubuntu?
[07:39] <oskude> CarlFK, debian.
[07:39] <CuriosCat> The error is: "Unable to install initrd-tools. An error occurred while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system. See /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details."
[07:39] <itaysp> I need help with ubuntu
[07:39] <CuriosCat> and that file does not exist
[07:39] <trpr42> CarlFK: take your pick. my personal choice for servers is debian stable
[07:39] <S0me1> CuriosCat, what is the error msg please?
[07:39] <ploom> CarinArr, in case you ask here, then debian or ubntu - oterwise it will run even on win32
[07:39] <Cyorxamp> QUESTION! (if this doesn't exist it's a damn good idea) - can you download chunks of xorg.conf files (i.e. sections) for certain models of graphics cards and also for monitors? and well basically piece yourself a properly confitured xorg.conf together?
[07:39] <CarlFK> trpr42: isnt the point of ubuntu-server to be a good choice?
[07:39] <macewan> LjL: will try something else
[07:39] <macewan> thnx
[07:40] <CuriosCat> s0me1: The error is: "Unable to install initrd-tools. An error occurred while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system. See /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details."
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,  not at this time. sadly.
[07:40] <LjL> CuriosCat: try "apt-get install initrd-tools"
[07:40] <trpr42> CarlFK: I have never used it so i won't recommend it. i am sure it is a decent choice though
[07:40] <itaysp> can some1 help me?
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,  i look and twiddle and exit a lot of the configs..  i just tend to keep archives for each machines.
[07:40] <LjL> !tell itaysp about helpme
[07:40] <Cyorxamp> dr-slizer - all it would take is someone to build up a collection
[07:40] <S0me1> CuriosCat, copy past /target/var/log/bootstrap.log please
[07:41] <Cyorxamp> * Dr_Willis
[07:41] <LjL> S0me1: that file does not exist
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,  problem is often the configs from different disrtos use different  default names and so forth.
[07:41] <Cyorxamp> for drivers?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,  ive noticed that my X configs have actually gotten a lot simpiler as time goes on.
[07:41] <wastrel> each subsection has a place to name the device that it's configuring
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,  paths to fonts, montiors, mode lines, server layouts.. then ya got twinview and xcinierma stuff...
[07:42] <CuriosCat> s0me1: there is no such file.
[07:42] <itaysp> i have just installed ubunto. everything was ok with the installation. when i log in to ubunto, after i write the pass, it shows me a brown window and then nothing happens. i can move my mouse but i can't do nothing else
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Ive had configs from live cd's work with some disrtos.. and other live cd's dont do the same 'things' right.
[07:42] <Cyorxamp> Dr_Willis - true but I am just on about the device and display sections
[07:42] <S0me1> LjL, he cannt try apt-get install initrd-tools i think
[07:42] <CuriosCat> ljl: apt-get doesn't seem to be in the path in the installer shell, but there's an apt-install which I believe is a frontend to it. apt-install initrd-tools succeeds, but I'm not sure how to run the remaining 20% of the installation process
[07:42] <Cyorxamp> Dr_Willis -  up for grabs on some sort of site
[07:42] <S0me1> CuriosCat, did you check for CD md5 ?
[07:43] <LjL> CuriosCat: hm, well, just try again the initrd step... perhaps it works now, but mind you, i'm basically just guessing
[07:43] <ViriiGuy> Well I am going to format AGAIN and try to get
[07:43] <LjL> CuriosCat: yeah S0me1 is right, you might have a broken cd
[07:43] <ViriiGuy> Ubuntu to work on my m6805 again
[07:43] <CuriosCat> s0me1: I got the shipped CD. It's not a download
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,   i think the xorg config file needs to be 'broken down' into smaller sub files actually. but i dont see that happening any time soon
[07:43] <CuriosCat> and it works fine on other systems, so I'm more suspecting I have broken hardware.
[07:43] <ViriiGuy> anyone have any pointers for getting the wireless to work?
[07:43] <clearscreen> is there a AP lister for wireless connections in gnome?
[07:43] <CuriosCat> This is an Intel ISP2150 (old 2U server), and they tend to be very finicky
[07:43] <wastrel> actually it wouldn't be hard to have "drop-in" configuration lines for different devices
[07:43] <LjL> itaysp: i don't know, but you might want to try a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" from a console, so you'll have the latest packages. if there's a bug hitting you, it might have been fixed
[07:43] <cwillu> from /proc/sys, why doesn't ls *swap* -R show swappiness?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> wastrel,  i started to do that. at one time.. but i just found it easier to buy identical cards for all my machines. :P
[07:44] <LjL> CuriosCat: are you actually going to use your SCSI hd as your boot hd?
[07:44] <S0me1> CuriosCat, to check ubuntu iso file like this -> ex: md5sum ubuntu.iso
[07:45] <zarephath> I have yet to figure this one thing out regarding terminal...I have edited the profile..but it never keeps the size of the window that I set it at..anyone help?
[07:45] <CuriosCat> ljl: Yeah, there's no IDE on this machine save for the CD-ROm
[07:45] <^ap^> plz somebody help me
[07:45] <Morfosomo> right day#2 of the chopped sound situation
[07:45] <LjL> CuriosCat: i see
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> zarephath,  that would be more a feature of the window manager you are using. I think
[07:45] <CuriosCat> s0me1: What part of "it's not a download" confused you?
[07:45] <LjL> !tell ^ap^ about helpme
[07:45] <oskude> ok, thats usefull: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "cpu family", an the number X is then your X86... nice
[07:46] <CuriosCat> ljl: There's some issue on these servers with the aic scsi controller. I suspect that's what I'm running into.
[07:46] <oskude> like cpu family      : 6, would be 686
[07:46] <Morfosomo> no stream comes right through my machine and its the only one using the net now
[07:46] <vVictoRr> what to with dropped packets?
[07:46] <dstryr> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins.
[07:46] <LjL> CuriosCat: i'm not sure, though, "cannot install initrd-tools" doesn't sound like a broken controller, but more like something with ubuntu... though you never know
[07:46] <dstryr> what decoder is it talkin about?
[07:46] <Cyorxamp> is anyone here a fundamental part of the ubuntu project - got a cosmic idea for ya (anyone who says !anyone will be severely insulted)
[07:46] <dstryr> ?
[07:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Cyorxamp: You might have better luck in #ubuntu-devel
[07:47] <Cyorxamp> ah!
[07:47] <CuriosCat> ljl: Yeah, but it's hard to tell. If I try using lvm, it fails during makedev etc
[07:47] <Cyorxamp> PuMpErNiCkLe - well its not so much about the software side of things, but more the wiki
[07:47] <djp> is anybody here using camera monitor? http://infinito.f2o.org/cameramonitor/index.php
[07:47] <S0me1> CuriosCat, are you order CD from Ubuntu site?
[07:47] <CuriosCat> s0me1: Yes.
[07:47] <zarephath> Well hey there Dr_Willis...yes I just haven't figured out how to get at the config file for that term..in this case the default that installs with gnome(as you know I am running dapper)
[07:48] <S0me1> ah
[07:48] <LjL> CuriosCat: look you could try running a live cd, seeing if it works, and seeing if it can see your SCSI drive. though you might just end up wasting your time -- also since having a module loaded at runtime is quite different from having it load inside initrd
[07:48] <CuriosCat> hey, it was free, couldn't pass up a deal like that
[07:48] <cwillu> CuriosCat; dumb question, do you know that the cd's actually good?  my first batch I got delivered had hairlines cracks,
[07:48] <CuriosCat> cwillu: I've installed with this CD on about half a dozen machines successfully
[07:48] <cwillu> okay
[07:48] <cwillu> same architecture, config, etc?
[07:48] <CuriosCat> so while I can't be POSITIVE (maybe there's a scratch right on a driver that this particular machine needs), I'm reasonably certain
[07:48] <S0me1> LjL, you are right , just for test
[07:48] <LjL> CuriosCat: still... i think you could still check the md5sum of your CD
[07:48] <cwillu> (unlikely to make a difference, I know, but I've had that happen)
[07:48] <S0me1> CuriosCat, try it
[07:49] <CuriosCat> ljl: Probably worth a shot. But what do I run md5sum against?
[07:49] <CuriosCat> /dev/hdc?
[07:49] <LjL> CuriosCat: after all, perhaps the other machines had IDE drives or something that didn't hit the corrupted parts of the CD
[07:49] <LjL> CuriosCat: yeah, i think that should work
[07:49] <cfedde> openldap server is only available from apt-get via ultrapossum?
[07:49] <S0me1> CuriosCat, try use live Cd
[07:49] <oskude> debian installer had option to test the cd...
[07:49] <CuriosCat> so does fedora
[07:49] <LjL> CuriosCat: it might take some time though i suppose (but not really, as the CD will be read linarly...)
[07:50] <CarlFK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu says "doing a server install of Ubuntu" - anyone have a URL for how to do that?
[07:50] <CuriosCat> and fedora bugs out on this machine too in spite of the CD passing
[07:50] <Belea_> hi there..  what theme i should use to have cpu load and memory..  on my desktop ?
[07:50] <CuriosCat> ljl: I'll start it and go do something else. Not worried about it
[07:50] <dstryr> There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins.
[07:50] <dstryr> what decoder is it talkin about?
[07:50] <Belea_> and if it can to be a bit  transparent
[07:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dstryr: What format is the stream in?
[07:50] <CuriosCat> ljl: the main reason I'm trying this out is to evaluate fedora as a server OS. I already like it for a desktop Linux.
[07:50] <LinuxJones> Belea_: gdesklets has lots of stuff like that
[07:50] <CuriosCat> err, not fedora. ubuntu. duh.
[07:50] <dstryr> .wmv
[07:51] <dstryr> im trying to play a video
[07:51] <S0me1> CuriosCat, Live CD to test your hardware
[07:51] <dstryr> but it wont play
[07:51] <S0me1> lol
[07:51] <trappist> Belea_: I use gkrellm with the klearllm theme
[07:51] <CuriosCat> s0me1: worth a shot
[07:51] <dstryr> it says: There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[07:51] <M_A_K> OK, I finished installing ubuntu and configured KDE and GNOME the way I want.  I inserted a CDROM, where the heck is it?  Currently using KDE.
[07:51] <trpr42> Belea: using a composite manager / opengl will put some wicked eye canding on your screen (transparents windows, etc).. its buggy sometimes though. i turn it off most of the time unless i'm trying to show it off ;)
[07:51] <Belea_> thx guys
[07:51] <oskude> !wmv
[07:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dstryr: Have you checked teh restricted formats and w32codecs pages for help?  They're the ones that cover things like wmv.
[07:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !restriced
[07:51] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PuMpErNiCkLe
[07:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !restricted
[07:51] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !w32codecs
[07:51] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:52] <dstryr> but is there any way to play though?
[07:52] <LjL> CuriosCat: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2006-01/msg00928.html
[07:52] <LjL> CuriosCat: no solution there, but it does sound similar to your problem (though the guy's using a custom made CD)
[07:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dstryr: Yes, by installing the plugins, as detailed above by ubotu. ^^^^
[07:52] <cwillu> from /proc/sys, why doesn't ls *swap* -R show swappiness?  I think I'm misunderstanding what ls -R actually does...
[07:53] <cppnewbie> impossible to open file with lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock (open 3 access denied) <----- wtf is that when i apt-get again?
[07:53] <CarlFK> cppnewbie: did you sudo?
[07:53] <cwillu> synaptic open?
[07:53] <cwillu> using sudo?
[07:53] <once1er> welp, filtering network connections based on iptables is dead in the water
[07:53] <once1er> apparently  -m owner  --gid-owner   only matches on the PRIMARY group
[07:53] <CuriosCat> ok, trying the liveCD
[07:53] <once1er> and not all
[07:53] <LjL> CuriosCat: uhm have you tried passing the infamous "acpi=off" parameter to the kernel when booting? i've found someone on google who said he solved this initrd problem doing that
[07:54] <oskude> !version
[07:54] <ubotu> hmm... version is to check version of Ubuntu use lsb_release -a
[07:54] <cppnewbie> ah finally
[07:54] <cppnewbie> it works now
[07:54] <cwillu> k
[07:54] <wickers> Hello all
[07:54] <CuriosCat> ljl: Hrm. That's worth a shot. Let's see what LiveCD does
[07:54] <cppnewbie> what happens if i dont use sudo?
[07:55] <M_A_K> Can someone tell me how to mount my CD? I put one in, but it does not mount.
[07:55] <LjL> cppnewbie: that you don't have root priviledges ;)
[07:55] <cppnewbie> sounds normal to me but in the guide im following in here theres nothing about sudo apt-getting, only apt-get alone
[07:55] <itaysp> i have just installed ubunto. everything was ok with the installation. when i log in to ubunto, after i write the pass, it shows me a brown window and then nothing happens. i can move my mouse but i can't do nothing else
[07:56] <Cyorxamp> !paste
[07:56] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[07:56] <Cyorxamp> thanx ubotu
[07:56] <cppnewbie> any !help command in the chan or something? :D
[07:56] <once1er> M_A_K:  use the following command from a terminal    mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0
[07:56] <Cyorxamp> WHAT do people think of this suggestion??? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9684
[07:57] <cyphase> does there exist somewhere in the world a graphics card that Ubuntu supports fully with 3D and DVI?
[07:57] <cppnewbie> !help
[07:57] <iBalo> most nvidia stuff
[07:57] <Spec> How do I strike-through text on the ubuntu wiki?
[07:57] <cwillu> cppnewbie; what guide are you following?
[07:57] <M_A_K> onceler : how can I get this to automount?
[07:57] <djp> why would an icon not show up in my menu panel? using gnome and even though if (by chance) i happen to right click on an invisible icon... the icon does not show up?!
[07:58] <cppnewbie> well it says apt-get update and apt-get install foo
[07:58] <cyphase> iBalo, i guess i have bad luck, always getting cards with problems. wold you have a spcific model number?
[07:58] <once1er> M_A_K: gnome and kde should both have device monitors that automatically mount them
[07:58] <cyphase> would*
[07:58] <cyphase> specific*
[07:58] <cwillu> cpp;?
[07:58] <M_A_K> Hmmm, when I put the disk in, it did not mount.
[07:58] <once1er> M_A_K if they don't, i don't know how to fix them. maybe its disable-able somewhere?
[07:58] <oskude> Cyorxamp, i would be for manufactures writing the needed info in their manual or web...
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,  ya proberly should of edited/cleaned it up quite a bit.. and this is a 'big' issue. :P lol.. but the system now works for most people fine.. so dont expect much to happen.
[07:58] <cwillu> cppnewbie; what guide are you following?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> work time.. byeee....
[07:58] <cppnewbie> wanna link? its not ubuntu specific but its about making psp apps lol :p
[07:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Cyorxamp: Makes sense to me, but I doubt I'd use it, personally.
[07:59] <cwillu> yep
[07:59] <cwillu> cppnewbie; sudo is basically how you avoid shooting yourself in the foot
[07:59] <Cyorxamp> oskude - yeah but as I said in the post - not everyone has a manual... esp if the person who made ur card/monitor has gone bump
[07:59] <oskude> Cyorxamp, and you need "trusted" users to add those entries, i know im too lazy for that...
[07:59] <bartosz> Hi
[07:59] <cppnewbie> http://harleyg.linuxlabs.co.uk/tutorials/psp/pspdev/1.html
[07:59] <iBalo> cyphase: sorry, i don't know the latest nvidia-range... but any recent nvidia will be fine, double check with google when you targeted a specifc model..
[07:59] <bartosz> can anyone tell me how to set the resolution in this?
[07:59] <cwillu> cppnewbie; anything (for certain values of anything) that could break the system won't work unless you sudo it
[07:59] <cyphase> hmm
[08:00] <dlowell> can anyone tell me why my hp laserjet 4 plus printer isn't working with ubuntu 5.10?
[08:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Cyorxamp: And from my experience, it's not the vid cards/monitors that are the worst, it's the sound.  (That's a software problem, though, not so much a config one.)
[08:00] <cwillu> keeps you from, say, formatting your drive by accident, etc
[08:00] <oskude> Cyorxamp, but i have NOTHIG against your idea. would be nice to have a "drag drop" archive of know device etc sections....
[08:00] <cppnewbie> sounds good, perhaps u could help me with that guide thing. guess foo isnt a specific package or something?
[08:00] <djp> anyone using a labtec webcam pro here?
[08:00] <cwillu> but sudo isn't used by every distro, so if you're following instructions that don't know anything about it, you can usually just put sudo before the instructions that don't work
[08:00] <cppnewbie> it says debian and afaik ubuntu is debian based
[08:00] <oskude> Cyorxamp, as it could be easier/faster to update as the "automatic" funtion in the debian config
[08:01] <cwillu> yes, but debian doesn't neccessarily use sudo :)
[08:01] <bartosz> how do I change screen resolution?
[08:01] <sesq> Yo, How i must configure fstab to can removing and making files on windows partition NTFS, ( currently i have: /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0 )
[08:01] <cwillu> one sec, let me peek at that url
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sesq: NTFS isn't writeable in Linux - the support isn't there for it.  It's not a config problem.
[08:02] <oskude> Cyorxamp, but the BEST would be people would send their setting to the devs so they can add it to the automatic script, that way noobs wouldnt have to do nothign...
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sesq: Ok, that's not entirely true - under certain conditions, you can write to NTFS, but it's very limited.
[08:02] <Cyorxamp> what automatic scripts?!!?
[08:02] <iBalo> Can anyone recommend a good RTS-game for linux, preferrably one that's in the repos :-) (No commercial one)
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> iBalo: RTS?
[08:02] <dlowell> can anyone tell me why my hp laserjet 4 plus printer isn't working with ubuntu 5.10?
[08:03] <sesq> PuMpErNiCkLe, ok, and on fat32 can i write ?
[08:03] <iBalo> real time strategy
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sesq: Yes.  FAT32 is definitely supported.
[08:03] <utech> wazz up PEOPLE!
[08:03] <cppnewbie> i assume they know that iBalo lol :p
[08:03] <dlowell> nothing
[08:03] <oskude> Cyorxamp, dunno what does that automatic things when doing like "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:03] <once1er> PuMpErNiCkLe: have you seen captive-fs? (i think thats it)
[08:03] <utech> l0l
[08:03] <Cyorxamp> oskude - that thing is bloody useless
[08:03] <sesq> PuMpErNiCkLe, ok, how must fstab look, i have ( /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0 )
[08:03] <cwillu> cppnewbie; do you have a favourite editor yet?
[08:03] <oskude> Cyorxamp, but i assume that it uses a database
[08:03] <once1er> PuMpErNiCkLe: it allows, in my experience, reliable write access to ntfs
[08:03] <cppnewbie> u mean what by favorite editor?
[08:04] <utech> hey i need help
[08:04] <jdl> He means, can we start a flame fest.
[08:04] <oskude> Cyorxamp, yes, beacuse the database is not "complete" (if it even uses a database)
[08:04] <cwillu> i.e., vi, emacs, gedit, etc
[08:04] <utech> were i install the dll in wine ?
[08:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> once1er: Interesting - got a link?
[08:04] <once1er> lemme search it
[08:04] <cppnewbie> cwillu ill b using gedit
[08:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> k
[08:04] <once1er> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[08:04] <once1er> the guy stopped working on the project i think, because it works for what it does
[08:05] <cppnewbie> what do i do after that is the issue
[08:05] <sesq> PuMpErNiCkLe, hda1 is FAT32, ( /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0 ) what should i change to write on it files?
[08:05] <once1er> I wouldn't use it in production, of course. but i've found it really useful for dealing with data around the office
[08:05] <Nox|> hi all
[08:05] <cwillu> should be able to install the packages via synaptic, or by sudo apt-get <blah blah blah>
[08:05] <once1er> google reveals that apparently knoppix includes it
[08:06] <cppnewbie> cwillu how could i access them via synaptic?
[08:06] <once1er> oh, nm, someone was saying they _should_
[08:06] <cwillu> you can type "sudo bash" to get a root prompt, where you don't have to type 'sudo' before everything, but be _extremely_ careful what you do in that prompt;  no second chances if you screw something up
[08:06] <utech> hey is there ubuntu will have xgl in the future ?
[08:06] <sir_quicken> Help! help!! I dunno what 2 do now :(
[08:06] <DigitalLF> how do i remove pcmcia-cs without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[08:06] <cwillu> launch synaptic (it's in the system menu I think), and just look for the package
[08:06] <klian> Hi, Im trying to install 'quota' and it says:E: Package quota has no installation candidate
[08:06] <klian> , any idea ?
[08:06] <cppnewbie> t'is not there :p
[08:07] <sir_quicken> I am trying 2 network & I cannot get window 2 read te ntlmspp encryption & vise versa
[08:07] <cppnewbie> one of em is update-apt
[08:07] <jdl> Clearly my GeForce 2 is a POS.  The current nvidia driver claims I need to use the "legacy" drivers instead, and bails.
[08:07] <cwillu> !synaptic
[08:07] <ubotu> somebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:07] <cppnewbie> and the other one foo2zjs
[08:07] <delta> Hi. Does there exist public DNS?
[08:08] <once1er> its all public
[08:08] <zAo^> lol: no1 in #dapper+1
[08:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> once1er: Looks good.
[08:08] <AndrewLee> Where can I ask question for mirroring ubuntu? Does any channel for mirror admins?
[08:08] <cwillu> synaptic is a front end to the apt-foo commands
[08:08] <delta> once1er, mmhh?
[08:08] <cppnewbie> yea cwillu i know whats written in there
[08:08] <once1er> Pumpernickle: i've only had good experiences with it. haven't used the one he released for the 2.6.14 kernels in december though
[08:09] <cppnewbie> been there
[08:09] <cwillu> system|administration|synaptic package manager
[08:09] <cppnewbie> ive opened synaptic
[08:09] <cppnewbie> thing is i dont find it in there anywhere
[08:09] <once1er> what are we looking for?
[08:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> once1er: I'll take your word for it - I don't have any ntfs drives to test it on. :)
[08:10] <cwillu> cpp is following a guide on the web to install psptools
[08:10] <once1er> pumper: and you're a better person for it i'm sure
[08:10] <sir_quicken> I am using samba but cannot get anyting 2 work network wise, says ntlmsspprotocol being used & windows sows an error when I log into windowws 2k with it
[08:10] <cppnewbie> but it says at the top to apt-get update && apt-get install foo but neither of these work
[08:10] <cwillu> lol
[08:10] <cwillu> 'foo' is a meta variable
[08:11] <cppnewbie> so that is?
[08:11] <cwillu> i.e., if one of the commands they want you to use doesn't exist
[08:11] <cwillu> you would replace foo with the command name
[08:11] <oskude> !foobar
[08:11] <ubotu> oskude: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:12] <cwillu> cppnewbie; maybe I can cut out a few steps here;  what are you trying to accomplish?
[08:12] <jbrouhard> Howdy, everyone
[08:12] <jbrouhard> anyone here got ubuntu PPC ??
[08:12] <zAo^> sorry
[08:12] <cwillu> sure I have it, just don't have any ppc machines to install it on :p
[08:12] <once1er> jbrouhard: yes, whatcha wanna know?
[08:12] <jbrouhard> Heh
[08:12] <oskude> fubar = f**ked up beyond all recognition, lol
[08:13] <jbrouhard> Just need to know if it's possible for me to run Adobe Photoshop for the mac in ubuntu PPC
[08:13] <once1er> no
[08:13] <jbrouhard> or do i need to find an alternative ?
[08:13] <jbrouhard> damn
[08:13] <cppnewbie> installing the psptoolchain mostly, i know teh rest
[08:13] <cppnewbie> done it on cygwin
[08:13] <jbrouhard> 8sigh*
[08:13] <once1er> if you _need_ photoshop, you're SOL, but if you just need a powerful photo editor, Gimp2 is good once you get used to the interface
[08:13] <jbrouhard> I've used gimp in the past
[08:13] <jbrouhard> however, Photoshop is a requirement for the job
[08:13] <jbrouhard> Damnit
[08:14] <jbrouhard> <-- hates macOSX
[08:14] <cwillu> you might take a look at just searching synaptic for psp and installing what looks interesting (or have you done that already?)
[08:14] <zAo^> leave linux dude: got same problem heren
[08:14] <zAo^> here *
[08:14] <once1er> <-- loves macOSX
[08:14] <cwillu> jbroome; might run under wine
[08:14] <cwillu> bah
[08:14] <cwillu> stupid nick completion
[08:14] <jbrouhard> hehe
[08:14] <jbroome> tab complete fails you again!
[08:14] <jbrouhard> Well...
[08:14] <jbrouhard> I dunno if wine'd work
[08:14] <cwillu> semicolon actually :p
[08:14] <jbrouhard> Don't think there's a ppc version of Codeweavers yet
[08:14] <cwillu> gah
[08:14] <cwillu> right
[08:14] <once1er> photoshop runs under wine on x86, but like you have to have the right version of wine from december 2003 and you have to have photoshop build 1234 or some crazy combination (last i checked)
[08:15] <zAo^> it is possible but I got horrible performance... damn Adobe
[08:15] <cwillu> ppc
[08:15] <once1er> and wine isn't available on PPC
[08:15] <cwillu> ppc
[08:15] <cwillu> ppc
[08:15] <cwillu> stupid ppc
[08:15] <oskude> ppc is dead :)
[08:15] <once1er> don't tell IBM
[08:15] <oskude> atleast for apple
[08:15] <cwillu> I don't think they care that much
[08:15] <once1er> not really, they've got 3 machines
[08:15] <zAo^> PPC is not dead: check the p570 machines...
[08:15] <cppnewbie> huh? oh yeah cwillu there isnt anything on
[08:16] <oskude> well, you know what i mean...
[08:16] <cwillu> psp?
[08:16] <cppnewbie> ya
[08:16] <oskude> i know theres others than apple that uses ppc
[08:16] <cwillu> ?
[08:16] <cppnewbie> only thing i came across was a perl interpreter lol :p
[08:16] <once1er> oh yeah ppc is alive and well http://www.top500.org/lists/2005/11/basic
[08:16] <klian> Is it the same 'quotatool' than 'quota' ?
[08:17] <sir_quicken> cannel*
[08:17] <cppnewbie> ehm
[08:17] <cppnewbie> :p
[08:17] <cwillu> dumb question, when I say perl server pages, are we talking about the same psp?
[08:17] <sir_quicken> geese I cant see in 1024x768
[08:18] <oskude> or the css psp mod ? ;)
[08:18] <cppnewbie> cwillu in that link u noticed the same thing? lol?:p
[08:18] <sir_quicken> noww I got noticed what can I do 2 get windows 2000 & linux 2 comunicate using samba?
[08:18] <cppnewbie> play station portable developing, thats what it is :p
[08:18] <dstryr> hey, i accidentally removed Trash from the Panel, how do i get that back?
[08:18] <sir_quicken> I can see linux on windows & vise versa but cannot access it
[08:18] <cppnewbie> if it were that easy such as synaptic i wouldve done it by now
[08:18] <cwillu> ahhhhhhh
[08:18] <oskude> dstryr, ricght click on that panel and add..
[08:19] <zAo^> dstryr: right click on it >> add >> choose bin
[08:19] <cppnewbie> i always try synaptic for packages
[08:19] <cppnewbie> rofl
[08:19] <dstryr> i dont see add
[08:19] <dstryr> oh nvm
[08:19] <sir_quicken> brb shows bak on
[08:19] <oskude> dstryr, :)
[08:20] <cwillu> m'thinks you need to double check that svn and the c tool chain are install via synaptic
[08:20] <carlo-r> anyone tried install the BMW DIS software on Ubuntu or any Linux distribution?
[08:20] <klian> How can I install 'quota' ?
[08:20] <LjL-Away> klian: "sudo aptitude install quota"
[08:20] <cppnewbie> lemme c
[08:21] <oskude> klian, dont you get anything with "apt-cache show quota" ?
[08:21] <carlo-r> anyone at all? I really need this for a customer. he has all the software, but for some reason the OS software (SCO OpenServer) has issues with his AMD Turion64
[08:21] <oskude> klian, works here,  sudo apt-get -s install quota
[08:21] <tonio_> wenas
[08:22] <oskude> klian, -s = simulate
[08:22] <cppnewbie> hehe didnt check svn packages *whistles unsuspiciously*
[08:22] <tonio_> hay alguien x aqui
[08:22] <LjL-Away> !es
[08:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:22] <klian> root@ubuntu:/etc# apt-cache search quota
[08:22] <klian> root@ubuntu:/etc#
[08:22] <cwillu> :p
[08:22] <LjL-Away> klian: quota is in main, so probably your repositories are setup incorrectly.
[08:22] <LjL-Away> !info quota
[08:22] <ubotu> quota: (implementation of the disk quota system), section admin, is optional. Version: 3.13-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 388 kB, Installed size: 1160 kB
[08:23] <oskude> klian, try: sudo apt-get update and search again
[08:23] <cwillu> lol, don't worry, you're reputation has already greatly improved from a php developer who's confused :)
[08:23] <cppnewbie> lol
[08:23] <carlo-r> does ANYONE have experience with BMW DIS software?
[08:24] <dstryr> !info apache
[08:24] <ubotu> apache: (versatile, high-performance HTTP server), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.3.33-8 (breezy), Packaged size: 374 kB, Installed size: 804 kB
[08:24] <klian> LjL-Away, I have this in sources.list: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[08:24] <cwillu> "cwillu wonders what cpp's gonna think when he finds out psp isn't php" :)
[08:24] <cppnewbie> lol cwillu im not that useless
[08:24] <cppnewbie> :p
[08:25] <cppnewbie> away piZzA and show on tv
[08:25] <dstryr> how do you install KDE theme? i tried installing it when it says invalid format, though i got the theme from kde official site
[08:25] <oskude> dstryr, maybe a version conflict...
[08:25] <carlo-r> are you all blind?
[08:26] <oskude> i would intepret that as answer "no"
[08:26] <cwillu> is there any better way to do the ms "dir *swap* /s" than ls -R|grep "swap" -r?
[08:26] <carlo-r> atleast I get one question answered.
[08:26] <cwillu> where the -r is actually -i?
[08:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> carlo-r: No, we just don't necessarily all know how to help you.
[08:26] <oskude> carlo-r, if someone would have used that soft, he/she would have said it..
[08:27] <carlo-r> well then why didn't anyone just say no so I wouldn't have to annoy anyone??
[08:27] <oskude> carlo-r, you want to see 600times no here ?
[08:27] <cwillu> because then we'd have 697 responses saying no
[08:27] <carlo-r> and?
[08:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> carlo-r: We don't all answer every question... if someone knows the answer, they'll tell you.  Otherwise, they won't clutter the channel uselessly.
[08:27] <carlo-r> people will drop it much quicker.
[08:27] <oskude> !spam
[08:27] <ubotu> oskude: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:27] <carlo-r> sometimes the fastest solution is the best.
[08:27] <oskude> !flood
[08:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[08:28] <carlo-r> isn't someone asking the same question 100 times clutter?
[08:28] <oskude> carlo-r, next time take silence as "no", or wait...
[08:28] <trpr42> carlo-r: no one is getting paid to sit here and answer questions (at least i don't think so). you ask a lot from a volunteer
[08:28] <equador> why when i restart pc, fluxbox theme default... and all time
[08:28] <carlo-r> I could've been more patient.
[08:28] <carlo-r> you volunteer, so do your job.
[08:28] <trpr42> carlo-r: you are right about that.
[08:29] <cwillu> carlo-r, irc is a weird thing;  I find the easiest way to get an answer is to just shout out the question once in a while (10 minutes or so)
[08:29] <trpr42> carlo-r bye bye
[08:29] <oskude> carlo-r, im pretty sure NOONE has ever heard about that software
[08:29] <nickrud> flol, carlo-r you ever run any kind of a non profit that uses volunteers? (obviously not)
[08:29] <equador> i change fluxbox theme, but, when i restart pc, fluxbox theme been default... and all time
[08:29] <carlo-r> lol..no one has ever heard of BMW?
[08:29] <once1er> I actually am getting paid to sit here and answer questions... Just don't tell my boss
[08:29] <equador> ?
[08:29] <carlo-r> you know, the car..
[08:29] <carlo-r> dumbasses
[08:29] <oskude> carlo-r, and that soft doesnt have anything to do with ubuntu, or ?
[08:29] <cwillu> guys, flamage ain't gonna help here, even if he's flaming himself :p
[08:29] <carlo-r> has everything to do with Linux
[08:29] <carlo-r> Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux
[08:30] <once1er> but bmw isn't
[08:30] <carlo-r> so, they're very related
[08:30] <carlo-r> but this software is.
[08:30] <cwillu> yay
[08:30] <oskude> carlo-r, hmm, cant compute, try the mailing list of the soft...
[08:31] <Spec> !anyone
[08:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:31] <Spec> ...
[08:31] <cwillu> although I feel an old compulsion to google bmw nis
[08:31] <Spec> there are 690 people, if half of them used software X, do you really want them all saying "I do!"
[08:31] <Psykus> anyone have a clue why unreal tournament 2004 would have no sound, unless I launched it from a terminal?
[08:31] <once1er> haha
[08:31] <gugu> #ubuntu-fi
[08:32] <once1er> next person that asks if we use software X, i think we should all respond in unison. that would be fun
[08:32] <Spec> hey
[08:32] <Spec> i have a question for everyone
[08:32] <Spec> does anyone here use bash?
[08:32] <cwillu> me!
[08:32] <once1er> yes
[08:32] <djp> why would a tray icon not show up, even though the app appears to be running and if i right click in the panel it appears the icon is there but invisible!?
[08:32] <Spec> oh god
[08:32] <Spec> :p
[08:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Spec: yes
[08:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> :D
[08:32] <Spec> i don't actually want answers, please, no, not 500 of them
[08:32] <once1er> we didn't really pull that one together
[08:32] <cwillu> hmm, disappointing, only 5 :)
[08:32] <once1er> we'll have to work on it
[08:32] <oskude> Spec, :)
[08:32] <Psykus> i created a shortcut to it in gnome, and when I use that, there's no sound, however, when I navigate to the directory and do ./ut2004 , the sound works
[08:32] <Spec> gotta get a, uhh, 'patch' into irssi
[08:33] <once1er> Psykus: does the shortcut properly set the working directory?
[08:33] <Kaleo> Hello
[08:33] <once1er> maybe it looks in the current working direcotyr for sound files, and can't find them because its set to ~ or something
[08:34] <Psykus> sui'm not sure
[08:34] <Psykus> erm
[08:34] <Psykus> - su
[08:36] <Psykus> ok, the shortcut that the game created works fine, i'll just use that one and delete the one I made
[08:36] <christopher> i have problems with ndiswrapper/ndisgtk.. ndisgtk won't even start, it says "Failed to load GTK bindings. Please check your Gnome installation." even though all dependecies are met. any ideas?
[08:36] <once1er> well if you want that shortcut somewhere else, you could make a shortcut to the shortcut
[08:37] <dstryr> what's the file extentsion of KDE theme?
[08:37] <Psykus> it's fine, I just moved it...for some reason, the installer created the shortcut in the "Other" menu for some reason, instead of "Games"
[08:38] <once1er> because they don't like you and don't want you to be able to play the sweet game you just bought
[08:38] <Psykus> heh
[08:38] <Psykus> wish more games had linux support like this :|
[08:38] <oskude> dstryr, i doubt there is one, as i assume that they a just packed directiories with definition and image files...
[08:39] <once1er> I'd feel the same way, but at this point I'm kind of addicted to those "Tank" and "Worms" genre of games. And those things are everywhere. Its quite pathetic. Got a 360 sitting my bedroom, and i'm playing physics games on my TI89
[08:39] <eobanb> can anyone help me with dual-booting....i have two IDE hard drives, ubuntu is on the master and XP is on the slave.  i have the bios set to boot from the master, where grub is installed, but when i choose xp from the list, it just sits there.
[08:40] <eobanb> ubuntu is on (hd0,0), xp is on (hd1,0)
[08:40] <eobanb> should be straightforward...done this lots of times before..
[08:40] <Gambix> hi to all
[08:40] <malt> Hello i installed proftpd on my linux pc and its running apache with php and webmin and ftp well proftpd but it is very slow and everything else hosted on my linux seems to be fast but the ftp is only one that is giving me this slow problem is there a setting i can change or anything to help make it go faster?
[08:40] <Gambix> i need help on installing eagleusb modem...
[08:40] <once1er> eobanb: are you using chainloader +1 or whatever it is?
[08:40] <eobanb> once1er, yes.
[08:40] <Jonnings> I cant find my ".emacs" file (it doesnt exist), how can i make one + write to it?
[08:41] <oskude> eobanb, hmm, do you have "boot" as last " command" ?
[08:41] <eobanb> yes
[08:41] <once1er> eobanb: maybe the boot record has been stripped off the xp partition
[08:41] <oskude> eobanb, and you get no error messages ?
[08:41] <eobanb> well, when i set the bios to boot directly from the windows drive, it can boot windows.
[08:41] <eobanb> it just doesnt work from grub.
[08:41] <once1er> eobanb: oh
[08:41] <eobanb> no error messages, after it says 'boot' it just sits there.
[08:42] <Gambix> does someone have already success on installing sagem f@st 800 on dapper ?
[08:42] <oskude> eobanb, dunno if still needed, but does the windows partition have the "boot option" ?
[08:42] <once1er> eobanb: the boot record for the windows machine might not actually reside on hd(1,0)
[08:42] <cppnewbie> :D
[08:42] <Khan_Kubrat> please, can you help me with Kaffeine player???
[08:42] <eobanb> once1er, what would i do to find out
[08:42] <once1er> its possible its on hd(0,0) and scans the devices for other stuff?
[08:42] <eobanb> how can it be 0,0 when that's my linux drive?
[08:43] <oskude> actually i desided not to help on windose, but the question was so good made :)
[08:43] <succubus__> hey, how would i get apache to interpret .php and .phtml files
[08:43] <linuxamoeba21> hello
[08:44] <Krillancello> I'm thinking of trying to learn programming, most likely with C/++ and Java. Does anyone have any suggestions for what to install? (Keep in mind the main purpose of this is to LEARN to program.)
[08:44] <oskude> succubus__, you define them in httpd.conf (or was it mimetypes.conf)
[08:44] <scottj> what should I use to load my RSA key for ssh into memory and ask for the passphrase once every time I log in?
[08:44] <once1er> eobanb: hmm, well, i know when SATA drives get setup for XP they need to have the boot record on the first IDE drive (if both are installed), maybe they require that the first drive have the boot record in _any_ configureation?
[08:44] <oskude> succubus__, or wait, did you istall php ?
[08:44] <linuxamoeba21> i'm having a problem with amarok -- it just stopped working yesterday. it hangs on startup, uses 100% processor for a while, then i get a knotify crash dialog... any ideas?
[08:44] <aftertaf> !lvm
[08:44] <ubotu> I guess lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[08:44] <Spec> Krillancello: if you want to learn how to program, then you should learn python
[08:44] <succubus__> yes, i think it's httpd.conf, i couldn't remember the file name.
[08:44] <succubus__> oskude, i did install php
[08:44] <Krillancello> Spec: Why's that?
[08:44] <eobanb> once1er, i have no sata drives or anything like that
[08:44] <oskude> succubus__, if you install php4 in should add them automaticly
[08:44] <Spec> Krillancello: it's very useful on linux, and easier to learn
[08:44] <succubus__> it was php5
[08:45] <oskude> succubus__, from ubuntu repos ?
[08:45] <once1er> eobanb: i guess i'm not really sure why its happening. I've always heard that its _way_ easier to setup windows on the primary drive. Guess this is why. lemme think about it for a few minutes
[08:45] <Spec> Krillancello: wait a few more seconds and i'll give you an online tutorial my teacher wrote
[08:45] <Krillancello> Spec: The ease of learning a language has no impact on me. If I want to, I can learn it regardless.
[08:45] <succubus__> oskude,  i couldn't say for sure
[08:45] <ericmoritz\0> hi, how do I get my gtk theme settings to be loaded when I use a different window manage than gnome
[08:45] <eobanb> all right, thanks, once1er
[08:45] <oskude> succubus__, if not, you may have to add the module and mimetype(s) yourself
[08:45] <succubus__> i installed it through synaptic, but i also have other repos.
[08:45] <succubus__> okay, that's fine.
[08:46] <Krillancello> Spec: Also, I'm looking for what to install. IDE, compiler, documentation...
[08:46] <once1er> eobanb: oh i just had a thought, you can actually use the windows boot loader to load linux
[08:46] <oskude> succubus__, do you have apache 1.3 or 2.x ?
[08:46] <once1er> if thats a way you might want to go
[08:46] <Spec> Krillancello: for python, install idle and python2.4, it's an interpreted language so it doesn't need to be compiled
[08:47] <Spec> it's probably already installed on your system
[08:47] <eobanb> once1er, i've never worked with it before, really.
[08:47] <klian> When I type: apt-cache search quota . It gives me a list of programs, but not the 'quota' program. Anyone can pass me his repositories ?
[08:47] <ardchoille> for anyone who uses natuilus scripts, I have a new one that may be helpful to you. It opens a dialog to ask for the path and then opens nautilus for that path: http://pastebin.com/582375
[08:47] <aftertaf> df -h
[08:47] <once1er> eobanb: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[08:47] <t1nkkar1> #ubuntu
[08:47] <aftertaf> doh
[08:47] <Krillancello> Spec: Is the Python documentation installable, or is it online?
[08:47] <once1er> wow, something good actually came from a geocities site?!
[08:47] <t1nkkar1> hello
[08:47] <succubus__> oskude, 2.x
[08:48] <cwillu> anyone think of a reason why mozilla would still be running (incl using cpu) even after I've closed the last window?
[08:48] <DistroWatch> is there a gui available for tor via apt ?
[08:48] <once1er> eobanb: it basically consists of copying the head off of your /boot partition, and giving it to windows
[08:48] <Gambix> does someone have already success on installing sagem f@st 800 on dapper ?
[08:48] <Spec> Krillancello: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
[08:48] <dstryr> what's the file extentsion of KDE theme?
[08:48] <oskude> succubus__, ok, dont have any apache2 (yet) so dunno if the configs have changed
[08:48] <Spec> Krillancello: it's most certaintly online, and there probably is documentation that's installable
[08:48] <oskude> succubus__, be sure you install apache2-mod-php5 too
[08:48] <succubus__> yep
[08:48] <oskude> succubus__, if its called so
[08:48] <Spec> that tuitorial (even though the colours suck :p) is pretty good
[08:49] <t1nkkar1> Could someone advice me howto get the "advancedd" mode on in ubuntu, gnome..
[08:49] <DistroWatch> !tor
[08:49] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DistroWatch
[08:49] <once1er> t1nkkar1: a, b, a, b, up, down, up, down, select, start
[08:49] <Spec> Krillancello: if you learn python first, you'll be able to learn other languages with even more ease, :)
[08:50] <oskude> succubus__, i love this site (mostly should work with ubuntu) http://www.debian-administration.org/tag
[08:50] <linuxamoeba21> i think i got my problem solved -- it appears as though the new amarok 1.4 automatically downloads cover art for your entire music collection without notifying the user =P
[08:50] <marinus> may i ask how do you work out encryted dvd in ubuntu
[08:50] <succubus__> oskude, thanks.. i will check it out.
[08:50] <dstryr> what's the file extentsion of KDE theme?
[08:50] <Krillancello> Spec: The problem with that is that once I were to learn Python, if I went on to learn other languages, I'd still need to know what compilers/editors/documentation to install.
[08:51] <succubus__> oskude, looks very useful
[08:51] <oskude> succubus__, and if your gonna run well known php apps, be sure to have something like this http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/65
[08:51] <t1nkkar1> i dont get you onceler..been quite a while since ive been around
[08:51] <Spec> Krillancello: that's not too hard to find out, the harder part is learning how to program
[08:51] <Spec> Krillancello: there's how to think like a computer scientist books for c++ and java, though
[08:52] <Krillancello> Spec: I'm not your ordinary computer geek. I find learning to program easier than figuring out what I need to program.
[08:52] <muep> marinus: libdvdcss
[08:52] <cwillu> krill; every language is different
[08:52] <succubus__> oskude, alrighty... thanks again.   --i gotta get packing to head home break. see ya around
[08:52] <Spec> hehe, well, for python you need python2.4, for c you need gcc, for c++ you need g++, etc etc
[08:52] <mongo> hi all - just setup 5.10 with Samba and NFS shares but I can't log in to my SMB from Windows XP Pro - it just won't accept my credentials...what can i check?
[08:52] <cwillu> even within the languages, setting it up can be different depending on what you're working on
[08:52] <oskude> succubus__, cu
[08:52] <stian> Hey, I have a question, it's not linux related, but still. When I do a search for my name on google, Konqueror and Opera shows my site as the first result, but when I do it in FF, im not even listed on the first page...whats up with that? How does it work?
[08:53] <marinus> installed libdvdcss still it did not work thanks for your response
[08:53] <Spec> stian: clear your cache perhaps
[08:53] <Krillancello> Spec: There are like four versions of both gcc and g++ in my package list. Not having programmed before, I don't know which one I would want.
[08:53] <oskude> stian, google use "localisation" so be sure your really using the same google.x
[08:53] <Krillancello> Correction, not having programmed in C/++.
[08:53] <cwillu> Krillancello; what do you want to program?
[08:53] <Krillancello> >_>;
[08:53] <cppnewbie> is there a command for searching through console?
[08:53] <muep> Krillancello: pick the newest?
[08:53] <Spec> Krillancello: any of them would compile your program, most likely :p
[08:53] <Spec> Krillancello: whichever one's name makes you feel the happiest :p
[08:54] <Krillancello> Spec: But there would usually be a suggested one over the others.
[08:54] <Spec> newest i suppose?
[08:54] <oskude> i noticed that ever google.x gives different results (even when NOT searching in "home" language")
[08:54] <marinus> am actually a newbie and maybe just did not do it right the installing of libdvdcss
[08:54] <muep> the older ones are there for compatibility
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cppnewbie: locate, mebbe?
[08:54] <cppnewbie> hmm :p
[08:54] <HappyFool> Krillancello: i'd recommend installing the build-essential package; it includes g++, gcc and related header files etc.
[08:54] <stian> ah, that explains it, when i use .NO, (im norwegian) i dont display, but with .com i do.
[08:54] <Krillancello> For example, PHP5 is suggested if you want bleeding-edge PHP support; PHP4 if you are concerned with it Just Working.
[08:54] <stian> okay
[08:54] <stian> thanks
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cppnewbie: It depends what you're searching for.
[08:55] <nosilver4u> how can i listen to a winamp-style radio station in ubuntu?
[08:55] <muep> marinus: check private msgs
[08:55] <cppnewbie> how can i cd to directories that have a gap? :S
[08:55] <marinus> dont even understand why if i follow the command as written in some support chat like #tar etc...i will get bash no command as tar so i get crossed
[08:55] <omatunto_> Hi, I'm getting a Mac Mini today, but I don't have an external display.
[08:55] <oskude> stian, i use "google.com/en"
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cppnewbie: cd /path/to/directory\ name/
[08:55] <marinus> what is private msgs
[08:55] <omatunto_> I was wondering if I can install Ubuntu blind.
[08:55] <scottj> what should I use to load my RSA key for ssh into memory and ask for the passphrase once every time I log in?
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cppnewbie: ie, put a \ in front of the space
[08:55] <eobanb> omatunto_, not likely.
[08:55] <cppnewbie> aha
[08:56] <omatunto_> Has anyone any experience doing it or any suggestions?
[08:56] <muep> marinus: I sent you one
[08:56] <eobanb> omatunto_, additionally, ubuntu doesnt yet work on intel macs.
[08:56] <muep> marinus: this channel is a bit too crowded for me
[08:56] <cppnewbie> worked, you rule :p
[08:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> :)
[08:56] <omatunto_> eobanb, that's a ppc mac.
[08:56] <oskude> omatunto_, i know its possible to use a serial output as terminal, but i never done that
[08:56] <muep> marinus: query me
[08:56] <omatunto_> Is it possible to get the install process running over ssh?
[08:57] <eobanb> omatunto_, uhm, the powerpc mac minis have been discontinued, i highly suggest you swap it for an intel one
[08:57] <oskude> omatunto_, yes, theres an option to load that module (atleas on debian)
[08:57] <trpr42> cppnewbie: give tab a try too .. autocompletion is convenient for those directories with spaces in their name
[08:57] <omatunto_> eobanb, I got this one fairly cheap just for that reason.
[08:57] <cppnewbie> no need i did it :D
[08:57] <eobanb> okay, never mind then.
[08:57] <marinus> like ive said im a newbie so i have no real idea about this things sorry
[08:57] <oskude> omatunto_, but to select that you need an monitor :) (AFAIK)
[08:57] <muep> marinus: type /query muep
[08:58] <muep> in irc
[08:58] <eobanb> omatunto_, i would just go and find some cheap monitor
[08:58] <eobanb> any vga monitor should do the trick
[08:58] <oskude> omatunto_, i think your better of with debian, theres propably some images that initialises automaticly a "ssh installation"
[08:58] <omatunto_> eobanb, yes that's most likely the easiest solution
[08:58] <eobanb> omatunto_, i assume you'll be using this as a server
[08:59] <omatunto_> eobanb, yes, thats true.
[08:59] <eobanb> omatunto_, then you'll want to do the server install of ubuntu
[08:59] <omatunto_> eobanb, printing, subversion and files most likely
[08:59] <kbrooks> omatunto_, for svn
[08:59] <muep> marinus: can you join another channel then?
[08:59] <kbrooks> apt-get install subversion subversion-tools
[08:59] <oskude> omatunto_, there a ways to install linux wihtout monitor, but dunno how easy that is wihtout knowledge.. (never done that too, but would love to know)
[09:00] <madmike> does anyone know if dapper will have firefox 1.5 installed, standardwise?
[09:00] <eobanb> madmike, yes
[09:00] <muep> madmike: it will have it
[09:00] <omatunto_> eobanb, if I could make any sort of bootable installation with right partitions and sshd, I can customize the installation afterwards.
[09:00] <marinus> i was in another channel after typing that query thing but i did not get any answer
[09:00] <marinus> so what channel must i join
[09:00] <eobanb> omatunto_, it would be WAY easier to just find a freaking monitor, dude
[09:01] <omatunto_> oskude, I guess I try to use some fairly graphical installation walkthrough and just select the defaults...
[09:01] <oskude> omatunto_, maybe there are some netboot images that automaticly install debia base..
[09:01] <dstryr> what's the file extentsion of KDE theme?
[09:01] <muep> marinus: /join #helppp
[09:01] <dstryr> is it .desktop?
[09:01] <omatunto_> Then Alt+F2 and login, apt-get install sshd
[09:01] <madmike> eobanb, muep: good news :)
[09:01] <oskude> omatunto_, for server i would highly remonned debian and this http://www.debian-administration.org/
[09:01] <oskude> *recommend
[09:03] <oskude> omatunto_, not because debian is better or such, just because debian is used alot longer than ubuntu, so you find better info/help...
[09:03] <omatunto_> oskude, ok, perhaps that is wise...
[09:03] <oskude> omatunto_, are you from finnland, your name is funny :)
[09:03] <cwillu> does bash provide a way to change how tab completion works?
[09:03] <omatunto_> oskude, Finland, yes. :-)
[09:03] <dstryr> how come yall don't answer?
[09:04] <oskude> omatunto_, ok :)
[09:04] <cwillu> dstryr; 'cause we dpm
[09:04] <cwillu> bah
[09:04] <marinus> was in the help group but i did not see anyone
[09:04] <cwillu> stupid enter key
[09:04] <cwillu> 'cause we don't know
[09:04] <Ratty_> hi guys
[09:04] <muep> marinus: that's strange...
[09:04] <mongo> hi all - just setup 5.10 with Samba and NFS shares but I can't log in to my SMB from Windows XP Pro - it just won't accept my credentials...what can i check?
[09:04] <muep> marinus: are you on another network?
[09:04] <dstryr> what's the cmd again to make you choose if you want gdm or kdm ?
[09:05] <seraphim> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm/gdm should do it
[09:05] <jdl> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[09:05] <jdl> Which /dev is it really looking for?
[09:05] <jdl> I've got a bunch of /dev/nvidia<n> and nvidiactl
[09:05] <marinus> what do you mean another network
[09:06] <Ratty_> i'm trying to use 1280x768 on my monitor, but i can't get X to even attempt to use it. it will try 1600x1200 no probem though. i'm using the fglrx (ati) drivers, and have 1280x768 specified in my display's mode list, any ideas on what the cause could be?
[09:06] <muep> marinus: we are now on an irc network named freenode
[09:06] <marinus> you mean the ubuntu network? have no idea???
[09:06] <dstryr> which one would you prefer, seraphim?
[09:06] <muep> marinus: there are other networks, though, like quakenet or ircnet
[09:07] <trappist> jdl: if you've got those, maybe you already have the driver loaded? lsmod | grep nvidia
[09:07] <Ratty_> the gnome res change dialog doesn't even .ist 1280x768
[09:07] <gleesond> why does my $PS1 keep getting changed back to the default?
[09:07] <seraphim> i keep with the standard mostly, so gdm
[09:07] <marinus> yes i see it there is this x-chat with
[09:07] <trappist> gleesond: check /etc/profile
[09:07] <muep> marinus: try to connect to quakenet
[09:07] <marinus> marinus@brown.freenode.net
[09:07] <muep> and join #helppp there
[09:07] <oskude> omatunto_, is your server going to be public ?
[09:07] <omatunto_> oskude, not really, possibly ssh open to the wide net
[09:07] <jdl> lsmod shows no nvidia already.
[09:08] <dstryr> seraphim, have you ever changed your theme?
[09:08] <marinus> how do you do that quakenet wait ill check
[09:08] <seraphim> yes
[09:08] <dstryr> if so, where do you get gnome themes?
[09:08] <seraphim> just download a package at gnome-look.org
[09:08] <Zoroaster> good day mates
[09:08] <muep> marinus: there is a way to connect to many networks at once
[09:08] <oskude> omatunto_, ok. just wanted to know if you let php accesible from net.. as there are so many script kiddies outthere (i know, i had one a week ago:)
[09:08] <gleesond> trappist: is this the default for all users?
[09:09] <muep> I am installing xchat to take a look myself
[09:09] <trappist> gleesond: for all users who use bash, ash, sh or ksh
[09:09] <marinus> how as i see in the internet applications there is only that irc thing no quakenet
[09:10] <muep> marinus: yes but in xchat menus
[09:10] <gleesond> ah
[09:10] <muep> there in upper left
[09:10] <stockholm> so how can i compile kernel modules if there is only a gcc-4.0 and the kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4?
[09:10] <dstryr> seraphim, how do you install after you've downloaded the tarball
[09:10] <omatunto_> oskude, running too much services may bite you :-)
[09:10] <LjL> stockholm: i suppose you could install gcc-3.4
[09:10] <oskude> btw. i remember yellow dog linux saying they wont change to intel apple ;)
[09:11] <stockholm> LjL: it is not on the cd
[09:11] <LjL> stockholm: is gcc 4 on the cd? thought not
[09:11] <seraphim> it's all in german here :D somewhere in the system-settings
[09:11] <stockholm> LjL: 4.0 is installed by default
[09:11] <seraphim> you can install new themes for the login-screen
[09:11] <LjL> stockholm: uh? not as far as i know!
[09:11] <malt> Hello i installed proftpd on my linux pc and its running apache with php and webmin and ftp well proftpd but it is very slow and everything else hosted on my linux seems to be fast but the ftp is only one that is giving me this slow problem is there a setting i can change or anything to help make it go faster?
[09:11] <oskude> omatunto_, it was just my fault, not having updated the php apps (and didnt have any IDS)
[09:11] <Zoroaster> sometimes when I have apps open like and I move them to another workspace, they dissappear
[09:12] <oskude> omatunto_, but the bot just wanted to do some spamming, didnt even get real acces to the system
[09:12] <Zoroaster> they disappear to me, but appear to still ru somewhere?
[09:12] <ddonky> is it possible/easy to use my integrated soundcard for voip, and at the same time use my pci soundcard for everything else?
[09:13] <Zoroaster> like just now, my vmware is gone, it's in no workspace, but I can't open my virtualmachine up, because the files have locks on them
[09:13] <LjL> stockholm: anyway can't you connect to the internet? (sorry but i was away till a minute ago, i have missed the whole story)
[09:13] <oskude> ddonky, i have onboard audio and a usb headset, works like a charm like you said
[09:14] <ddonky> oskude - my head set has mic/audio jacks
[09:14] <oskude> ddonky, i use my onboard /dev/snd for all and /dev/snd1 (usb headset) for skype
[09:14] <stockholm> LjL: right, i need to compile a newer madwifi, aparently
[09:14] <ddonky> ahhh, ok
[09:14] <wavemhz> htpp://www.wavemhz.cba.pl
[09:14] <mongo> hi all - just setup 5.10 with Samba and NFS shares but I can't log in to my SMB from Windows XP Pro - it just won't accept my credentials...what can i check?
[09:14] <wavemhz> Kto z Polski??
[09:14] <oskude> ddonky, if they are propebly installed you should have 2 /dev/snd devices
[09:15] <pm> ja z Polski
[09:15] <ddonky> oskude - how do i set that up? i dont think my pci card is even working right now
[09:15] <pm> wavemhz, a co?
[09:15] <oskude> ddonky, im very lousy wiht linux and sound, thats why i use ubuntu as it found all automaticly :) but
[09:15] <ClayG> anyone using GGZ?
[09:15] <oskude> ddonky, you could start with "lspci" and see if you pci sound card is regoniced
[09:15] <LjL> stockholm: must say so far i haven't ever compiled a module for ubuntu (well, except one, but module-assistant did it automatically, and i had gcc 3.4 anyway)
[09:16] <oskude> !sound
[09:16] <ubotu> I heard sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:16] <stockholm> dang...
[09:16] <oskude> ddonky, try those
[09:16] <cppnewbie> is avi playback embedded in ubuntu from installation or its yap(yet another package)?
[09:16] <ddonky> ok lspci shows my pci card
[09:16] <LjL> stockholm: but really, just get gcc 3.4 i suppose. and if you don't have internet access, you can still get it from another box, though you'll have to be a bit careful to get the dependencies as well
[09:16] <ddonky> ok
[09:16] <oskude> ddonky, and look in ubuntuforums with your soundcard
[09:16] <oskude> ddonky, ubuntuforums.org
[09:17] <LjL> stockholm: well actually gcc-3.4 seems to only depend on cpp-3.4, the rest of the dependencies you should have already installed
[09:17] <ddonky> i have a dev/snd , but no /dev/snd1
[09:18] <LjL> stockholm: (and cpp-3.4 itself doesn't seem to depend on anything that you should not already have)
[09:18] <cwillu> is there any way to make bash use hippie-style completion (emacs style?)
[09:18] <Ratty_> i'm trying to use 1280x768 on my monitor, but i can't get X to even attempt to use it. it will try 1600x1200 no probem though. i'm using the fglrx (ati) drivers, and have 1280x768 specified in my display's mode list, any ideas on what the cause could be?
[09:18] <stockholm> LjL: i only have gcc 3.3 and 4.0 on the cd.
[09:18] <LjL> Ratty_: 1280x768? that sounds like quite a strange mode
[09:18] <stockholm> LjL: while the compiler the kernel is compiled with seems to be 3.4
[09:18] <cwillu> widescreen?
[09:19] <Zarephath> Where did grub.conf go on Ubuntu..I have no clue since I can't find it in /boot/grub/grub.conf
[09:19] <LjL> stockholm: ok, but as i said, if you have internet access on that linux box, i don't see the problem -- and if you don't, you can still get it from another machine
[09:19] <stockholm> LjL: i dont hvae internet access without the wifi card
[09:19] <Cyorxamp> If I don't want to use the bog standard 'ati' driver - and use something better... what can I use given i have a Rage 128 Pro Ultra !?
[09:20] <LjL> stockholm: right, but don't you have a USB key, or a cd burner, or something that you can use to get the stuff to the machine?
[09:21] <Belea_> gdesklets how can i set it back ?  not on top ?
[09:21] <Ratty_> yeah it's widescreen
[09:21] <LjL> Ratty_: have you tried leaving it as the *only* available mode in your xorg.conf?
[09:21] <Ratty_> it will fallback to 1024x768 ok, or attempt something too high, but refuses to try 1280x768
[09:21] <Ratty_> yup
[09:21] <oskude> Cyorxamp, you could try "r128"
[09:21] <Ratty_> it seems to try 2000xsomething
[09:22] <Cyorxamp> oskude - think thats riva :S
[09:22] <oskude> Cyorxamp, see "man r128" for more info (like supported chips)
[09:22] <oskude> Cyorxamp, man sais rage
[09:22] <cppnewbie> whats the delete command for ubuntu?
[09:22] <cppnewbie> command line style
[09:23] <LjL> !tell cppnewbie about cli
[09:23] <Ratty_> cppnewbie: rm?
[09:23] <cppnewbie> aha
[09:23] <Ratty_> for remove
[09:23] <Ratty_> man builtin
[09:23] <LjL> Ratty_: maybe try using a modeline
[09:23] <Pecisk> is anyone else expierencing lockups with Dapper/2.6.15/nvidia module?
[09:23] <Ratty_> i did try a modeline but who knows if it was right
[09:23] <mongo> can anyone see this?
[09:23] <Ratty_> mongo: no
[09:23] <LjL> Ratty_: http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/spec/linux/modeline/ <- i know of this page to generate modelines, though i'm afraid it doesn't list the resolution you need
[09:24] <mongo> no?
[09:24] <Ratty_> i'll t ry something else
[09:24] <LjL> Ratty_: also you could try the "videogen" packages, which can generate modelines for you, though it's not too easy to use (at least for me)
[09:25] <] BreliC[> anyone here using an nForce4 board with Breezy?
[09:26] <Zoroaster> I am running 5.10 Breezy I guess it's called, and I still have so many questions, but one question is, I see 4 workspaces, but can I have more?  how?
[09:26] <xerophyte> is there anyway i can configure the acpi in the kernel configuration ???
[09:26] <oskude> Zoroaster, yes, try right click on the worspace switcher
[09:26] <] BreliC[> Zoroaster, right click on the workspace icons on the taskbar, choose Preferences
[09:27] <mongo456a> hi all - just setup 5.10 with Samba and NFS shares but I can't log in to my SMB from Windows XP Pro - it just won't accept my credentials...what can i check?
[09:27] <] BreliC[> i was wondering if anyone was running an nForce4 board and managed to get USB2 to work
[09:27] <LjL> mongo456a: suppose you've used "smbpasswd"?
[09:27] <Ratty_> hmm
[09:27] <] BreliC[> i have an MSI AMD64 nforce4 board, and i can only get as fast as USB1.1
[09:27] <Ratty_> a modeline fixed it for one monitor, i'll try it on the one it's ment to use now
[09:27] <CuriosCat> nforce drivers are troublesome in linux in general
[09:27] <dancingmonkey> ] BreliC[, check the BIOS?\
[09:27] <] BreliC[> i saw that there are drivers on the nvidia site, but I read elsewhere that it breaks alsa
[09:27] <davidhouse> what packages do i need to be able to play wmv files?
[09:27] <mongo456a> Ljl: didn't know i had to...never had to on other distros
[09:27] <mentesuprema> Does anyone know a way to install Solaris 10 in the same disk with a Linux partition?
[09:27] <] BreliC[> dancingmonkey, it works fine in windows
[09:27] <CuriosCat> nvidia doesn't like to document their hardware
[09:28] <CuriosCat> and afaik their linux drivers are binary only
[09:28] <] BreliC[> hmm
[09:28] <oskude> brelic, sure your device can more than 1.1 ?
[09:28] <LjL> mongo456a: really? as far as i know, smbpasswd is always needed unless you do some weird configuration to make samba "sync" with the system passwords
[09:28] <] BreliC[> oskude, yes
[09:28] <LjL> mongo456a: though i've only used debian and ubuntu really
[09:28] <majd> hey, i downloaded a program off of bittorrent, but have no idea how to install/unpack/burn....it has 15 zip files...install notes just say to unpack and install....it says to use keymaker which i have no idea what it is.
[09:28] <oskude> brelic then i would read if the driver can more than 1.1 (but dunno where)
[09:28] <mongo456a> Ljl: other distros must sync cuz i haven't had to...got a doc explaining smbpasswd?
[09:29] <oskude> !samba
[09:29] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:29] <] BreliC[> oskude, well, as i said, there *is* a driver, but i've read on forums that it breaks alsa
[09:29] <trappist> majd: please take your warez questions elsewhere.
[09:29] <mongo456a> ubotu: thanks
[09:29] <ubotu> mongo456a: sure thing
[09:29] <] BreliC[> i was just wondering if anyone here had experience with it
[09:29] <Stormx2> Anyone built the GAIM beta 2?
[09:30] <ddonky> so, if i load the module for my pci soundcard, will it automagically create is in /dev/snd1 the next time i boot?
[09:30] <LjL> mongo456a: well, as far as i remember you should just "smbpasswd <username>", and set a password
[09:30] <majd> trappist, :(
[09:30] <mentesuprema> I have a Radeon 9200 which is fully supported
[09:30] <cppnewbie> hehe is that cwillu guy here? :D
[09:30] <oskude> brelic, sry cant help :(
[09:30] <mentesuprema> What I haven't tried with my Dell 600m is the IrDA and modem, everything else is great
[09:30] <JeReM> Hello all !
[09:31] <ddonky> hi
[09:31] <polpak> hi
[09:31] <davidhouse> what packages do i need to be able to play wmv files?
[09:31] <oskude> !wmv
[09:31] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:31] <Belea_> gdesklets to not be on top ? Thx
[09:32] <cppnewbie> !avi
[09:32] <ubotu> I heard avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:32] <cppnewbie> lol
[09:32] <cppnewbie> aha
[09:32] <cppnewbie> so its got many formats
[09:32] <davidhouse> oskude, cppnewbie, cheers
[09:32] <cppnewbie> hehe its not like i did anything
[09:33] <cppnewbie> had to find how avis playback lol
[09:33] <Ratty_> it's attempting 1280x768 but the refresh rate is wrong, my monitor only handles 60hz, and it saying out of range :|
[09:33] <LjL> Ratty_: that's certainly fixed with the right modeline. the problem is finding the right modeline.
[09:34] <smallfoot-> startkeylogger
[09:34] <LjL> Ratty_: do give videogen a try, if you have your monitor's user guide handy ('cause it will need to know max/min sync rates, and that kind of stuff)
[09:34] <smallfoot-> :(
[09:34] <Ratty_> my modeline is: Modeline        "1280x768_60.00"  80.14  1280 1344 1480 1680  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[09:35] <Krillancello> Is there a package available in Ubuntu for setting a different wallpaper/background for each workspace?
[09:35] <LjL> Ratty_: that doesn't really tell me anything, first because i'm far from a modeline guru, and second because the correct modeline really depends on your monitor
[09:35] <Ratty_> hmm
[09:35] <Ratty_> i just used a command line tool that asked for res and refresh rate
[09:36] <MalFal> Hello all
[09:36] <Ratty_> i don't have a clue what the numbers mean
[09:36] <LjL> Ratty_: that tool is probably making wrong assumptions on your monitor's parameters then
[09:36] <Ratty_> yeah
[09:36] <LjL> Ratty_: me neither, honestly.
[09:36] <Ratty_> i'll see if it has more options
[09:36] <polpak> Ratty_, you can try CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to the console, and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:36] <MalFal> Is there anyone who can help me with an issue I'm having with an intel 2200bg mini-pci card?
[09:36] <manicka> is anyone using this new sys info plugin for xchat in dapper?
[09:37] <LjL> Ratty_: see that, or try videogen, which definitely asks for monitor parameters. of course, you do have to know them
[09:37] <Ratty_> polpak: yes and that would send me back to the start
[09:37] <polpak> ubotu tell MalFal about anyone
[09:37] <Ratty_> i do know them
[09:37] <ddonky> aplay -l, shows both the inte intergrated sound and the aureal pci card
[09:38] <Spec> Can you switch your default audio card (if you have two) while booted?
[09:38] <MalFal> Thanks polpak, I now know.  lol
[09:38] <scottj> anyone use screen as their default shell? what arguments do you pass to it?
[09:38] <tdn> How do I play DivX and XviD movies in Ubuntu?
[09:38] <polpak> MalFal, so what is the problem you're having?
[09:38] <Spec> tdn: install vlc
[09:38] <tdn> Do I need some Win32 codecs?
[09:38] <Ratty_> hooray for apt-get
[09:38] <tdn> Spec, apt-get install vlc?
[09:38] <MalFal> I have a system with an intel 2200bg mini-pci card that I can't seem to connect to my network for the life of me.
[09:38] <Spec> should be
[09:38] <LjL> !tell tdn about restrictedformats
[09:39] <Spec> vlc is the best media player available, (in my opinion)
[09:39] <ddonky> hmmm lsmod shows the au88xx module loaded
[09:39] <MalFal> It sees the WLAN essid, but seems to refuse to connect
[09:39] <Spec> ddonky: what's your problem?
[09:39] <Spec> mplayer's alright :)
[09:39] <Krillancello> Is there a package available in Ubuntu for setting a different wallpaper/background for each workspace?
[09:40] <Spec> kde supports it, not sure what you'd use in gnome
[09:40] <Spec> Krillancello: ^^
[09:40] <ddonky> Spec, i'm trying to get my integrated sound for voip only, and my pci card for everything else
[09:40] <Spec> ah
[09:40] <Krillancello> Spec: I've used wallpapoz before, but I wanted to see if it (or an alternative) was readily available before getting it.
[09:41] <tavancini> guys, i am curious about the codnames of ubuntu... anyone know why ubuntu releases have clever names?
[09:41] <tavancini> like dapper drake, breezy badger...
[09:41] <ddonky> i think i'm going to open 'er up and check the cabling
[09:41] <Krillancello> Because *nix geeks are clever?
[09:41] <oskude> tavancini, allmost all linux distros have "names"
[09:41] <Ratty_> there's gnome-vlc if your're so inclined
[09:41] <Spec> ddonky:  you've looked at the .asoundrc documentation?
[09:42] <ddonky> Spec, no. Where is it?
[09:42] <tavancini> but for example... debian releases is based on the toy story movie...
[09:42] <xophEr> Is lm-sensors 2.10.0 going to be included in dapper? This would really be appreciated..
[09:42] <LjL> Ratty_: that's a dummy package that just installs the now standard wxVLC
[09:42] <oskude> tavancini, ah you mean the origin of the names in ubuntu ?
[09:42] <LjL> Ratty_: same for KVLC (assuming it still exists even as a dummy package)
[09:42] <tavancini> yeah!
[09:42] <Spec> ddonky: http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards
[09:42] <tdn> Then how do I play wmv/wma files and streams from the internet like this one: http://www.dr.dk/Forms/Published/PlaylistGen.aspx?qid=161390
[09:42] <oskude> tavancini, would like to know too :)
[09:42] <Spec> ddonky: http://alsa.opensrc.org/   <-- lots of information
[09:43] <tavancini> hahahah
[09:43] <oskude> !ubuntu_name
[09:43] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oskude
[09:43] <oskude> :)
[09:43] <ddonky> Spec - thanks!
[09:43] <CanadianSnow> So is there any way to get amsn 0.95 on ubuntu?
[09:43] <Spec> crossover office?
[09:43] <hypnotic> Is it possible to update from 5.04 to 5.10 ubuntu just from console?
[09:43] <CanadianSnow> because I used to have it, but then it got messed up, and I tryied to re-install it and now it doesn't work or something :(
[09:44] <muep> hypnotic: yes
[09:44] <Ratty_> hypnotic: editing the sources.list file and just update as normal
[09:44] <LjL> !tell hypnotic about breezy
[09:44] <CanadianSnow> brb, will read any pms or name highlights
[09:44] <polpak> !amsn
[09:44] <ubotu> well, amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[09:44] <Spec> oh, nevermind
[09:44] <Krillancello> gnome-app-install lists aMSN...
[09:45] <polpak> !info amsn
[09:45] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[09:45] <LjL> there is aMSN 0.94 in the standard breezy reps. 0.95 is only on the official site - but there is a specific ubuntu version
[09:45] <polpak> So if you want .95 you'll need to get the source or a deb from them
[09:45] <zoexii> hello, I have questions about migrating to a new hard drive...  Firstly, the new one is SATA, and I wonder how I should jumper my optical drive (as master yes?)  Secondly, I would prefer to directly copy partition scheme & contents of current drive to new drive as opposed to reinstalling Ubuntu and copying personal files...
[09:46] <LjL> zoexii: if the new drive isn't the same size as the old one, you can't just copy the partition table
[09:46] <LjL> (and i'm not sure you can even if it is)
[09:46] <virgule> I need a translation of this. http://pastebin.com/582464
[09:47] <Krillancello> zoexii: IDE (with regular ribbon data cables) and SATA drives are recognized completely differently under *nix. IDE devices are usually hd<a-z>, while SATA are sd<a-z>.
[09:47] <zoexii> LjL, yeah, it's definately bigger,
[09:47] <tdn> I have just installed kde with apt-get install kde (not using Kubuntu). I can't find Kontrolpanel anywhere in the menus. What to do?
[09:47] <Krillancello> zoexii: So you would probably have your original IDE drive recognized as hda, and your new SATA drive would be sda.
[09:47] <hypnotic> What about getting into a nfs drive (windows based).. All my backup files are on it
[09:48] <zoexii> Krillancello, isn't sd(a-z) for USB drives?
[09:48] <LjL> zoexii: i would run the Ubuntu installer and use it to partition the drive, and then (still from the installer, which has a shell you can access with alt+f2) copy over the files
[09:48] <polpak> tdn, you need to do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:48] <oskude> tavancini, :) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2592.html
[09:48] <LjL> zoexii: you could do that directly from your current installation too
[09:48] <k31th> why wont my .exe files work in linux im double clicking but nothings happening
[09:48] <Krillancello> zoexii: USB mass storage devices are put into sd<a-z> because their support comes from SCSI emulation; SATA is a form of SCSI, so they use the same naming convention.
[09:48] <LjL> zoexii: however, you must be careful to change all current references to (i assume) /dev/hda1 into (i guess) /dev/sda1
[09:48] <tdn> polpak, ok. Thanks.
[09:49] <oskude> tavancini, as i see it, the names are "random"
[09:49] <oskude> tavancini, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/14/ubuntu-dapper-drake/
[09:49] <zoexii> LjL, hmm, seems there might be a few of those,  I don't know that I trust myself not to forget a few
[09:49] <DistroWatch> do i need privoxy installed to get tor working ?
[09:50] <LjL> zoexii: well i can think of /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst. but yes, i agree there might be a ton of others. though i don't really think so
[09:50] <scottj> can you connect to linux boxes with Remote Desktop in windows?
[09:50] <tavancini> ohh, cool!
[09:50] <LjL> DistroWatch: no
[09:50] <LjL> DistroWatch: it's quite useful though
[09:50] <Krillancello> zoexii: You might want to consider a whole new partition scheme for your SATA drive as well. Since SATA is a form of SCSI, you can have I believe up to 16 primary partitions rather than three primary and a fourth extended.
[09:50] <once1er> scottj: no, but you can connect to them with something like VNC
[09:51] <t1nkkar1> Osaiskos kukaan neuvoa miten gome ympristn ubuntun advanced moodin sais plle..?
[09:51] <Spec> zoexii: i have a solution for you! mondo/mindi
[09:51] <DistroWatch> LjL so tor works out of the box right ?
[09:51] <LjL> DistroWatch: yes. it creates a SOCKS server.
[09:51] <zoexii> Krillancello, and what is the benefit of such a thing?  I have been thinking about several different Distros installed at once with a common partition for home
[09:51] <tdn> How do I get Ctrl+Alt+LeftArrow and Ctrl+Alt+LeftArrow to shift between desktops in KDE?
[09:51] <Spec> zoexii: just back your system up to cd or dvd, and then restore on the new system, and mondo/mindi does the geometry resizing/etc etc for you, grub and fstab are, indeed, all you need to change, and mondo/mindi does that on the restore
[09:51] <DistroWatch> LjL nice ... will xchat then use tor ? and all my other applications ?
[09:52] <LjL> DistroWatch: only if you (can) configure them to do so
[09:52] <zoexii> Spec, backupt to DVD?? that's quite a stack of DVDs.... and a lot of time.
[09:52] <LjL> DistroWatch: with X-Chat, i'm sure you can (SOCKS are a "long IRC tradition"). other apps might be more problematic
[09:52] <gleesond> what is a good command line firewall that will run when my user isn't loged on?
[09:52] <Spec> well, back up to tape if you want
[09:52] <DistroWatch> LjL i se like firefox ... i have to configure it to use proxy
[09:52] <Krillancello> zoexii: The benefit of using the ability of SATA drives to go over the limit of 4 primary partitions is that all your partitions are primary instead of all but three being extended. There's no difference from the point of view of the system itself, it's just a nicer arrangement.
[09:53] <Spec> it's got compression as well, 4 gigs fits on 2 cds (1.4gigs)
[09:53] <LjL> DistroWatch: also, the Tor developers warn that you should use a SOCKS4a client, because other versions don't include domain-name-resolving via SOCKS, which mean you will leak DNS requests
[09:53] <zoexii> Krillancello, I'm a bit of a noob, what does a primary partition do that an extended can't?
[09:53] <LjL> DistroWatch: you'll need Privoxy to use Tor with Firefox profitably. without privoxy, Firefox will leak DNS request and your privacy then becomes an illusion
[09:53] <MalFal> I have a system with an intel 2200bg mini-pci card that I can't seem to connect to my network for the life of me.
[09:53] <scottj> once1er: is there a VNC client that I don't have to install, that I could run off my usb flash drive?
[09:54] <DistroWatch> LjL i see , so i have to mae the settings in my xchat first , but what should i put in hostname .. username ..( im on network setup - proxy )
[09:54] <Spec> scottj:  sure, tightvnc, just put the binary on your usb flash drive
[09:54] <Krillancello> zoexii: IDE hard drives are only able to have four "primary" partitions. If you want to have more than four (/, /boot, swap, /home and something else on different partitions), then you have to make the fourth partition an "extended" partition. Then, within that extended partition, you can make as many subpartitions as you want.
[09:54] <Ratty_> is pixel clock related to my monitor or to my graphics card?
[09:54] <LjL> DistroWatch: the SOCKS hostname is "localhost". don't remember the port right now. don't think there is any username/password by default.
[09:55] <zoexii> Krillancello, I see... cool,
[09:55] <Krillancello> zoexii: Using only primary partitions instead of an extended partition just makes your partition table look nicer. ;P
[09:55] <Spec> yeap
[09:55] <Krillancello> I don't believe there's any benefit other than that.
[09:55] <Spec> :)
[09:55] <once1er> scottj: tinyvnc is just a little program, i think
[09:55] <oskude> i think for linux its no matter if its primary or extended, right ?
[09:55] <once1er> carry around the exe
[09:55] <DistroWatch> LjL port might be 9050
[09:55] <Krillancello> oskude: I don't believe any system has a problem with extended partitions, except maybe Win3.1 and DOS.
[09:55] <zoexii> alright, thanks for the help... I'm going to power down and plug things in....
[09:55] <Spec> once1er,scottj: or the linux client and the windows client, :p
[09:55] <LjL> DistroWatch: yep, or 7501. i've got both of those open :)
[09:56] <LjL> DistroWatch: but no, it's 9050
[09:56] <cwillu> whats the word on upgrading to dapper?
[09:56] <xunil> i have a question on screen captures with a tvcard window running, the tv card window shows up as blue on the capture file, is there any way to capture the actual picture from the tv card on the screenshot?
[09:56] <DistroWatch> LjL ok done ... so type of socks will be socks4 on any application ?
[09:56] <Krillancello> cwillu: Do you prefer stability or more functionality?
[09:56] <LjL> cwillu: it just broke yesterday ("broke" meaning "you couldn't load Gnome anymore"). don't install unless you want to help out testing it
[09:56] <MisterN> hi
[09:56] <cwillu> I'm on a play machine
[09:56] <oskude> cwillu, i would say "if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen" :)
[09:56] <once1er> scottj,Spec: i'm assuming that if he wnats to connect to linux boxes from RDC, he's using windows. and just wants the client. so... um... windows client
[09:56] <arrinmurr> is there a way to change the language after installation? and don't mean keyboard layout, but the GUI language
[09:56] <LjL> DistroWatch: socks4*a*, if you care about the DNS issue
[09:57] <chell> what's the default login data for edubuntu shooltool?
[09:57] <cwillu> breezy hasn't crashed on me in a while;  even seamonkey is working properly
[09:57] <cwillu> I'm getting bored :
[09:57] <scottj> Spec: do I just have to check allow others to view my desktop in Remote Desktop under System > Preferences?
[09:57] <xunil> i have a question on screen captures with a tvcard window running, the tv card window shows up as blue on the capture file, is there any way to capture the actual picture from the tv card on the screenshot
[09:57] <once1er> scottj: pretty much
[09:57] <cwillu> can I attempt an update via the repositories?
[09:57] <LjL> cwillu: yes
[09:57] <once1er> scottj: but then that user has to be logged in
[09:58] <cwillu> got a pointer to them?
[09:58] <DistroWatch> LjL yes i do :)
[09:58] <DistroWatch> LjL one more question please . whats this privoxy for ?
[09:58] <LjL> cwillu: hm no, not really, but i guess you'd just need to change "breezy" into "dapper" in your sources.list
[09:58] <cwillu> fair enough
[09:58] <oskude> xunil, i think your tv-card/driver has to support overlay mode (but i might be totally wrong)
[09:58] <Krillancello> cwillu: LjL is partially right. You should only upgrade to Dapper if a) you want to help debug it, or b) you like to see stuff break and then fix it. (Although the only difference between the two is that a involves reporting your experiences.)
[09:58] <xunil> oskude thank you
[09:59] <LjL> DistroWatch: well, Tor only opens a SOCKS proxy server. many programs instead expect an HTTP proxy server (or, anyway, don't support SOCKS4a, but only 4 or 5)
[09:59] <xunil> running nvidia drivers for the gpu, hauppauge brooktree drivers
[09:59] <Krillancello> Of course, you could always just see something break and report that... but where's the fun in that? ;P
[09:59] <eddie_> i need help installing rar can someone help me
[09:59] <cwillu> lol
[09:59] <LjL> DistroWatch: Privoxy is an HTTP proxy server -- which also is intended for privacy, so contrary to other proxies, it takes a few measures to hide your IP from HTTP exchanges, and stuff like that
[10:00] <oskude> xunil, i had 2 tv cards but i never did screenshots so dunno. sry
[10:00] <chell> nobody's got an idea?
[10:00] <eddie_> hello, can someone help me install rar. i keep getting some error when i do it.
[10:01] <oskude> xunil, i just have an old trick to use 2 tv cards at the same time (may not be needed these days)
[10:01] <LjL> DistroWatch: basically, Tor could have provided an HTTP proxy server themselves, but they haven't, and instead decided to only provide the simpler SOCKS support and rely on Privoxy for HTTP proxying
[10:01] <Krillancello> My notebook that I'm running Ubuntu on has a touchpad (of course), which the system recognizes as a PS/2 mouse. I have yet to see any support for this particular touchpad, or even its manufacturer. Should I just leave it as a PS/2 mouse or would something like xorg-driver-synaptics cover non-Synaptics touchpads?
[10:01] <cge> Has anyone gotten mathml fonts to work in firefox under dapper or breezy?
[10:01] <cwillu> on a different note, is backports still a going concern?
[10:01] <cge> Krillancello: what is the manufacturer?
[10:01] <LjL> DistroWatch: (of course you could use any other proxy besides privoxy, as long as it can tunnel through a SOCKS server. it's just that privoxy is recommended by tor)
[10:01] <oskude> Krillancello, synaptics is very good
[10:01] <DistroWatch> LjL ok thanks a lot i will install privoxy to so i can set firefox to use it
[10:02] <eddie_> HELLO CAN SOMEONE HELP ME INSTALL RAR IM HAVING PROBLEMS
[10:02] <LjL> eddie_: please do not SHOUT
[10:02] <chell> Does anyone know how I can set my password and username for schooltool right after the install
[10:02] <oskude> Krillancello, i would use it if i ever used my pad :)
[10:02] <Krillancello> cge: ALPS, I believe.
[10:02] <LjL> and tell us what problems you do have
[10:02] <eddie_> can i pm u the error
[10:02] <eddie_> Reading package lists... Done
[10:02] <eddie_> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:02] <eddie_> Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:02] <eddie_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:02] <eddie_> is only available from another source
[10:02] <eddie_> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[10:02] <eddie_> eddie@ubuntu:~$
[10:02] <oskude> Krillancello, what ever u have, synaptics should work
[10:02] <LjL> eddie_: no, use the pastebin please (paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[10:02] <cge> Krillancello: ALPS works with synaptics
[10:02] <DistroWatch> LjL yes .. so you are saying that SOCKS4a its best ... SOCKS4 hope aint that bad
[10:02] <Krillancello> cge, oskude: Ah, thanks.
[10:02] <polpak> eddie_, don't paste in here
[10:03] <LjL> DistroWatch: it's not a matter of good and bad really
[10:03] <lampshade> what does /dev/dsp device busy exactly mean when it comes to sound?  I think something isn't quite correct with my sound configuration and I don't know why.  A lot of times different programs will stop playing sound because of the device being busy like that.
[10:03] <polpak> !info rar
[10:03] <ubotu> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB
[10:03] <polpak> info unrar-free
[10:03] <polpak> !info unrar-free
[10:03] <cwillu> dist-upgrade, right?
[10:03] <ubotu> unrar-free: (Unarchiver for .rar files), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:0.0.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[10:03] <once1er> !info info
[10:03] <ubotu> info: (Standalone GNU Info documentation browser), section doc, is standard. Version: 4.7-2.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 173 kB, Installed size: 336 kB
[10:03] <cge> Krillancello:  however, you will have to look around for the correct settings to add to xorg.conf. The default settings will make it unusably slow.
[10:03] <LjL> DistroWatch: it's just that, with SOCKS 4 and 5, your client *first* translates "www.blah.com" (i.e. domain names) into an IP address, and then only sends the SOCKS server this IP address
[10:03] <LjL> DistroWatch: on the other hand, SOCKS 4a allows sending "www.blah.com" directly to the SOCKS server
[10:04] <Krillancello> cge: Google is my friend. ;P
[10:04] <cwillu> wish me luck, and a bash prompt to troubleshoot from :)
[10:04] <polpak> eddie_, you need to install the universe and multiverse repos
[10:04] <LjL> DistroWatch: this means that you use Tor to resolve the name -- if you don't, the request goes to your DNS server, which isn't "private" or "anonymous" by any extent of imagination
[10:04] <oskude> oh, who was that with onboard sound and pci sound card prolems, it should be /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 (not /dev/snd.) sry memory failure :)
[10:04] <chell> Does anyone here use edubuntu?
[10:04] <LjL> DistroWatch: so, basically, an attacker can easily know that you connected to a given server at a given time.
[10:05] <DistroWatch> LjL thanks a lot for your help and info
[10:08] <picasso> hello
[10:08] <jdl> I'm clearly missing something with my nvidia driver install still.
[10:08] <picasso> i'm trying to play a dvd, walk the line, using vlc (or totem-xine)
[10:09] <picasso> however after a certain point (about 2/3 through the movie) i get an error, "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
[10:09] <CanadianSnow> So is there any way to get amsn 0.95 on ubuntu?
[10:09] <CanadianSnow> because I used to have it, but then it got messed up, and I tryied to re-install it and now it doesn't work or something :(
[10:09] <Cyorxamp> Lo folks, if I want to use my second graphics card (lets say for now, only my second one not both at same time) I take it i have to tell dpkg-reconfigure another BusID?  is that right?
[10:09] <ompaul> !codecs
[10:09] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[10:09] <ompaul> picasso, ^^^
[10:10] <picasso> hrm
[10:10] <TuxByte> hello all
[10:10] <picasso> i already have w32coecs
[10:10] <LjL> DistroWatch: also while we're on about tor, please don't fall in the misconceptions that Tor connections cannot be eavesdropped. they can - easily. an attacker just can't (hopefully) track you to your IP, but any sensitive data that you send (passwords, etc) can be easily stolen, if you don't use application level encryption
[10:10] <picasso> and the dvd plays back fine, until 2/3 of the way through
[10:10] <oskude> !css
[10:10] <ubotu> oskude: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:11] <LjL> CanadianSnow: yes there is. just get it from the site
[10:11] <picasso> i have libdvdcss2
[10:11] <oskude> picasso, sry, never watch dvd with pc...
[10:11] <ompaul> picasso, have a look at that message from the bot
[10:11] <teclis> picasso: have you tried a different DVD-ROM?
[10:11] <KenSentMe> does anyone know how to fetch mail from a pop3 account (using fetchmail :p) and then put the mail in a specific folder on a imap account
[10:11] <picasso> k
[10:11] <MGPalmer> hi
[10:12] <MGPalmer> i was wondering if someone could help me with my monitor
[10:12] <DistroWatch> LjL yes .. ok then , i just enabled this in firefox and now i feel like im using dial-up :) very very slow
[10:12] <cochondo_fr> Hello everyone, is there a channel to get some help with ubuntu and XGL ?
[10:12] <oskude> but even my dvd player could play the film copy protected "layer cake", doh...
[10:12] <oskude> *couldn't
[10:12] <ddonky> MGPalmer - what's wrong with it?
[10:13] <LjL> DistroWatch: yes, the Tor network is undersized (especially since stupid people are using it for peer2peer). but note that it can *never* really be fast, though it could get better than it is now
[10:13] <LjL> cochondo_fr: #ubuntu-xgl
[10:13] <LjL> cochondo_fr: perhaps #ubuntu+1 also
[10:13] <MGPalmer> well i just started using ubuntu today, and it seems i cant set any refresh frequency higher than 60 Hz
[10:13] <cochondo_fr> LjL: thx
[10:13] <MGPalmer> which makes my eyes sad
[10:13] <ompaul> !refresh
[10:14] <DistroWatch> LjL well then i just have to disable it ... should be ok without it for firefox *hope so * :)
[10:14] <ompaul> !tell MGPalmer about refresh
[10:14] <ompaul> MGPalmer, have a look at the message from the bit
[10:14] <Krillancello> MGPalmer: Do you know for a fact the refresh/resolution combinations work? (For example, having used them under Windows or another *nix)?
[10:15] <MGPalmer> i have used this monitor on windows without getting eyecancer, yes
[10:15] <LjL> DistroWatch: there are some other steps you could take for some decent amount of privacy. for example, if you have a Google account, and you're logged in while you search, Google can associate all your searches with your real name immediately. and google does *not* delete search queries after some time
[10:16] <oskude> MGPalmer, you have better changes if you know the vertical and horizontal refresh rates of your monitor (try manual or their website)
[10:16] <LjL> DistroWatch: you might want to set your browser so that it always warns you when a site is sending you a cookie and, for example, disable cookies from google
[10:16] <Krillancello> MGPalmer: It could be your X config; there's a section where it defines what resolutions and refresh rates it can do with each registered card/monitor combination.
[10:16] <oskude> MGPalmer, and then change them in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:17] <MGPalmer> ok ill look into that
[10:17] <Krillancello> At least, I think it's for card/monitor combos... maybe it's just for each card. Haha.
[10:17] <MGPalmer> thanks everybody
[10:17] <Zoroaster> does 5.10 come with burning software?
[10:18] <Zoroaster> of not, what do you guys reccommend?
[10:18] <LjL> Zoroaster: it comes with gnomebacker i think
[10:18] <LjL> baker even
[10:18] <mhortaleza> hello newbie here
[10:18] <oskude> Zoroaster, apt-cache search burning
[10:19] <sir_quicken> OK I got windows back up & running, HOW do I establish a network connection between te 2 pc's using the gnome interface? I am on KDe but might ave 2 use gnome 2 get it going correctly
[10:19] <Zoroaster> oskude, which one do you use?
[10:19] <mhortaleza> can somebody help me to play my mp3 from xmms
[10:19] <LjL> !tell mhortaleza about mp3
[10:19] <oskude> Zoroaster, dunno, i use gnomebaker
[10:19] <mhortaleza> mp3 files
[10:19] <Zoroaster> oskude, how do you invoke it?  from the command line?
[10:19] <oskude> Zoroaster, lol, you did ask me direct, so forget that dunno :)
[10:20] <mhortaleza> like apple itunes files
[10:20] <oskude> Zoroaster, or from menu multimedia
[10:20] <LjL> mhortaleza: try following Ubotu's instructions
[10:20] <MGPalmer> ahu, i got just another quick question: in the file browser (nautilus right?), by default the view is always those big icons, how do i change the default to a list view ?
[10:20] <oskude> Zoroaster, eeh, sound and video... (or where it was, dont have burner in my notebook)
[10:21] <jdl> What is the purpose of /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/volatile?
[10:21] <jdl> And why does it have drivers with future install dates in it?
[10:21] <phos-phoros> I'm having an issue with my network card not being enabled (although within system/networking it shows as such). When checking the configuration within system/networking I recieve the prompt "Could not enable network interface", but if I select the interface and then eth0 (which the option is greyed out prior to this) and then close the networking settings gui/relaunch it ...everything performs as it should
[10:21] <Zoroaster> oskude, ok, will look, nothing like that in my menus, buit will look
[10:21] <phos-phoros> any idea as to how to resolve this would be greatly appreciated
[10:21] <oskude> MGPalmer, probaply somewhere in menu preferences or so (in that window)
[10:21] <sir_quicken> well your not supposed 2 violate your pc.. tem port holes are not ment for that
[10:21] <Zoroaster> what I want to do is create an ISO from a CD, I will use gnomebaker, or does someone have a better idea/
[10:21] <sir_quicken> lmfao
[10:21] <oskude> Zoroaster, its not installed in strandard installation
[10:21] <phos-phoros> /etc/network/interfaces looks correct also
[10:22] <phos-phoros> *interface even
[10:22] <copernic> hello, does anyone know how to increase shadow amount when using XGL under Badger?
[10:22] <MGPalmer> oskude: well ill be damned, its right there :) im a noob...
[10:22] <oskude> Zoroaster, theres a simple command line command for that but dunno what...
[10:22] <LjL> copernic: don't think there is an option for that, if you're using Compiz. anyway, try also #ubuntu-xgl
[10:22] <oskude> MGPalmer, everyone was noob, so no shame or such
[10:22] <Zoroaster> oskude, I'm apt-getting gnomebaker right now
[10:22] <Zoroaster> oskude, thanks
[10:22] <copernic> LjL: thanks for the hint
[10:22] <oskude> Zoroaster, roger, np
[10:23] <pia_> duh! I just managed to edit my passwd file in a destructive way -- I have a backup but my password doesn't work anymore
[10:23] <tatters> how do u edit a file in in CLI?
[10:23] <LjL> Zoroaster: google "cd writing howto", first link is a comprehensive guide to mkisofs and cdrecord, the two command line tools that most program uses as a backend to cd burning (i use them exclusively)
[10:23] <oskude> pia_, doh :) hmm
[10:23] <pia_> is there some sort of clever boot option I can give that will let me in as root if I reboot?
[10:23] <LjL> pia_: you could pass "init=/bin/sh" to the kernel, i think that would work
[10:23] <LjL> pia_: or you can boot from a live cd
[10:24] <Zoroaster> LjL, will do, thanks
[10:24] <kemik> pia_: or use "rescue" mode
[10:24] <oskude> pia_, have you rebootet after you re copied the backup ? maybe the system is not yet usinf it
[10:24] <jk_> somone chat in spanish??
[10:24] <LjL> !es
[10:24] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:25] <pia_> I havn't rebooted yet, but I am locked out so it used
[10:25] <phos-phoros> it appears as if the eth0 device is not maintaining the selection as being the default gateway device
[10:25] <oskude> pia_, ok, try in "rescue mode" and copy the bakcup or change new password
[10:25] <erUSUL> !tell jk_ about es
[10:26] <pia_> I'll try the init=/bin/bash first
[10:26] <oskude> pia_, well, "rescue mode" is made for this kind of situations, but how like...
[10:26] <LjL> pia_: i think rescue mode might be easier though, even though i haven't really used it
[10:27] <pia_> we shall see *waves*
[10:27] <oskude> LjL, me neither :) i go with "knoppix" and mount the partition :)
[10:27] <phos-phoros> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81248.html , I have the same exact problem...I suppose uninstalling network manager would be worth a shot?
[10:28] <pia_> hehe, I don't even have the priviliges to reboot the box :p
[10:28] <LjL> pia_: ctr+alt+del? :)
[10:28] <phos-phoros> strange, netw0rk-manager isn't even installed
[10:28] <phos-phoros> so that's not a viable solution
[10:30] <eternaljoy> is there any way to change the large brown UBUNTU words on bootup?
[10:30] <LjL> eternaljoy: nah :)
[10:30] <eternaljoy> LjL: isnt it a graphics file?
[10:30] <LjL> eternaljoy: no, not really
[10:30] <eternaljoy> LjL: or is it stored inside a data file?
[10:30] <eternaljoy> LjL: not really?
[10:31] <LjL> eternaljoy: it's a .so file :) i suppose it *can* be changed if you know the format, but
[10:31] <eternaljoy> LjL: define "not really"
[10:31] <eternaljoy> LjL: ok
[10:31] <LjL> eternaljoy: /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so
[10:31] <eternaljoy> LjL: has it been done?
[10:31] <oskude> !usplash
[10:31] <ubotu> usplash is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:31] <LjL> eternaljoy: haven't the slightest idea :9 guess so, given what ubotu says
[10:31] <eternaljoy> oskude: thanks :)
[10:31] <eternaljoy> LjL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:31] <LjL> eternaljoy: you could install Kubuntu's usplash anyway. at least that's not brown
[10:32] <oskude> LjL, lol
[10:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: I dont think you should comment or answer when you obviously are not qualifed and are wrong :)
[10:32] <oskude> i never used that, i just star to love irc bots :)
[10:32] <oskude> *start
[10:33] <oskude> btw, what does ubotu use ?
[10:33] <oskude> !whoareyou
[10:33] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, oskude
[10:33] <oskude> :)
[10:33] <clearscreen> :( im pissed off at broadcom :(
[10:33] <Ratty_> why would setting a modile on my 1st monitor have an affect on my 2nd monitor?
[10:33] <Ratty_> modeline even
[10:34] <LjL> eternaljoy: i don't think "nah" followed by a smiley qualifies as a definitive answer (unless you don't really mean i shouldn't give *any* kind of answer). especially when, immediately after that, i explained the reason why i didn't think it could be easily modified, saying it was a dynamically linked libraries instead of any kind of standard graphics format.
[10:34] <frank_> is there away i can have my built in media reader to work with ubuntu?
[10:34] <oskude> little OT, where should i start to learn irc bots (like ubotu with those factoids) ?
[10:34] <eternaljoy> LjL: well its very easy :) read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:34] <LjL> eternaljoy: and, if you don't think "pngtobogl usplash-artwork.png > usplash-artwork.c ; gcc -Os -g -I/usr/include/bogl -fPIC -c usplash-artwork.c -o usplash-artwork.o" qualifies as an ugly hack, then i don't know what does.
[10:34] <gnomefreak> oskude: you need a bot than you need to learn to program it
[10:35] <oskude> gnomefreak, oh, really ;)
[10:35] <nickrud> oskude, you could start at debian-bots
[10:35] <gnomefreak> yep
[10:35] <oskude> i was thinking a webpage with howto or so...
[10:35] <Nameeater> there are quite a few scripts if your a lazy sod for various bots
[10:35] <eternaljoy> LjL: its very very easy! so all you had to say was you have NO IDEA, instead of making out it was hard or near impossible :)  read the website oskude gave. its as easy as ABC :)
[10:35] <gnomefreak> oskude: i havent found one
[10:35] <hector> hola desde espaa
[10:35] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:36] <oskude> or what script (if any) does ubotu use ?
[10:36] <Psykus> what's a good app to use for a tv tuner card?
[10:36] <eternaljoy> LjL: swallow your pride and admit you were wrong :)
[10:36] <Psykus> i managed to open it with VLC, but I can't change channels or anything
[10:36] <LjL> eternaljoy: even installing XGL and Compiz under breezy is "very easy" (i did it myself in 10 minutes). and yet, for some reason, most experienced people here say it cannot be done.
[10:36] <oskude> a name is enough for me, google does the rest :)
[10:36] <oskude> doh, server load too high, cant search channels ...
[10:37] <Krillancello> They should change that phrase "You're not Superman." to "You're not Google."
[10:37] <nickrud> Psykus, I don't have one, but some people mention xawtv
[10:37] <LjL> eternaljoy: anyway, i reiterate that "nah :)" just about qualifies as a synonym of "no idea" in my idioms, as otherwise i would have said something on the lines of "no, it's not possible because of this and that"
[10:37] <gnomefreak> LjL: it works fine?
[10:37] <LjL> gnomefreak: not really. it works horrible under KDE, and has a few problems in Gnome.
[10:37] <LjL> gnomefreak: not sure it works any better in Dapper though
[10:37] <gnomefreak> LjL: open synaptic lol
[10:38] <LjL> gnomefreak: ?
[10:38] <frank_> trying to find help in this room is like asking a wall for assistance-fuck google is your friend for real
[10:38] <Psykus> thanks, nickrud
[10:38] <gnomefreak> LjL: for some reason xgl setup borks synaptic
[10:38] <picasso> lovely
[10:38] <gnomefreak> atleast here it did
[10:38] <LjL> gnomefreak: really? haven't even tried synaptic. i don't even have gnome installed normally, i just installed it briefly to check out xgl
[10:38] <picasso> i ran easyubuntu shit, but no change to my problem w/ playing the later chapters in "Walk the Line" DVD
[10:39] <picasso> I have tried a different dvd-rom -- my friend with a Mac laptop played it and it worked fine.. also tried in VLC (on mac), had the same problem as I'm having
[10:39] <nickrud> picasso, try xine, it seems to play more dvd's than the other players
[10:39] <eternaljoy> LjL: thats not a true defination of synonym!  do you know the accurate defination of synonym according to Oxford? :)
[10:39] <oskude> ok, now i have to decide in watch language i want a bot, hmm...
[10:39] <picasso> using totem-xine
[10:40] <nickrud> totem-xine didn't play as well as plain old xine
[10:40] <eternaljoy> LjL: do you have an Oxford dictionary handy?
[10:40] <LjL> eternaljoy: no, but let me take a guess and say it only applies to single words and not expressions.
[10:40] <picasso> how do i navigate a dvd in regular old xine?
[10:40] <picasso> i've only used gxine interface -- and it has no way to skip chapters and stuff
[10:40] <LjL> eternaljoy: as my native language is not english, no, all i have is a couple of bilinguar dictionaries
[10:40] <Plouj> oh my gosh
[10:40] <Plouj> I have a really confusing problem
[10:40] <eternaljoy> LjL: if its so easy to XGL and Compiz under breezy, why cant you write a document on how to do it following easy steps? :)
[10:41] <nickrud> I just used the regular dvd menu, I think. I don't have a movie at hand to recheck
[10:41] <AlbanianLord> what program would I use to burn mp3 cds?
[10:41] <ShauOFT> hello
[10:41] <LjL> eternaljoy: because there's already an ubuntuforums posting explaining it in easy (and terribly ugly) steps
[10:41] <nickrud> AlbanianLord, k3b, or serpentine
[10:41] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: i think its more on the lines of the Xserver 6.8 isnt set to handle xgl] 
[10:41] <eternaljoy> LjL: I realied English was not your first language as you misunderstand a lot of english words meanings. np :)
[10:41] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok
[10:41] <Zoroaster> I was opnce told about an app that is like a gui for samba, no, not webmin, and it was great, but I lost that pc and I forgot what it is, might someone know?
[10:41] <ShauOFT> my jute led is not working anyway to fix this?
[10:41] <ShauOFT> mute
[10:42] <DistroWatch> LjL irc with tor enable doesnt work on any server . i can connect to freenode server but i cannot join any channel :)) banned everywhere . and also tryed to connect to undernet servers ( no change ) G-Line and Disconnected (Remote host closed socket) :))
[10:42] <picasso> how do you use "regular" xine?
[10:42] <picasso> there's no 'xine' command
[10:42] <picasso> gxine ?
[10:42] <eternaljoy> LjL: if the ubuntuforums posting is as easy as your way, why do the "most experienced" people here, as you put it, have trouble installing it? :)
[10:42] <AlbanianLord> nickrud I thought serpentine only does normal audio cd's
[10:42] <min> #ubuntu-fi
[10:42] <chuckyp> picasso, man xine
[10:42] <nickrud> picasso, I just ran xine from the command line
[10:42] <ompaul> picasso, try totem and if xine is there it will fire up
[10:42] <eternaljoy> LjL: the  ubuntuforums posting cant be as good as you claim if the "most experienced" people here, as you put it, have trouble installing it!  So why cant you write a better version? :)
[10:43] <LjL> eternaljoy: i don't think they have trouble installing it.
[10:43] <nickrud> AlbanianLord, oh, I thought you meant converting on the fly, sorry
[10:43] <picasso> yes, i'm using totem-xine
[10:43] <picasso> i have been
[10:43] <Plouj> ok.. I compiled my own ubuntu kernel, but when I tried to instal nvidia drivers the original ubuntu kernel became default, and now I can't boot my system again
[10:43] <LjL> eternaljoy: i just think they won't do or at least suggest something that involves installing Suse packages and then moving files around in /usr manually.
[10:43] <picasso> i've got totem (w/ xine engine) or gxine
[10:43] <Plouj> ffs
[10:43] <eternaljoy> LjL: thats what you said earlier!  look what you said:...LjL eternaljoy: even installing XGL and Compiz under breezy is "very easy" (i did it myself in 10 minutes). and yet, for some reason, most experienced people here say it cannot be done.
[10:43] <AlbanianLord> so nickrud could you suggest a program
[10:43] <AlbanianLord> ?
[10:43] <SeAwInDe> hi pplz
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Plouj: why are you compiling a kernel to get nvidia drivers?
[10:44] <Plouj> eternaljoy: maybe they are not that experienced
[10:44] <nickrud> AlbanianLord, the only time I ever burned some mp3's (to play on my home dvd player) I just wrote data disks
[10:44] <Plouj> gnomefreak: I'm not doing that
[10:44] <eternaljoy> LjL: so why could you do it in 10 mins, yet the  most experienced people here say it cannot be done?
[10:44] <LjL> eternaljoy: indeed, they say it cannot be done. of course they do not really mean it, as *anything* can be done under Ubuntu (not just under Ubuntu of course), if you twiddle with the right bits
[10:44] <Plouj> gnomefreak: I compiled my kernel for a totally different reason
[10:44] <Pupilo> how can activate write option in a windows partition?
[10:44] <LjL> eternaljoy: i just explained that.
[10:44] <nickrud> AlbanianLord, don't know if that's the 'right way', but it worked on that machine
[10:44] <eternaljoy> LjL: are you more experienced than the " most experienced people here" ? :)
[10:44] <AlbanianLord> nickrud Ill try it
[10:44] <LjL> [22:43]  <LjL> eternaljoy: i don't think they have trouble installing it.  [22:43]  <LjL> eternaljoy: i just think they won't do or at least suggest something that involves installing Suse packages and then moving files around in /usr manually.
[10:44] <LjL> eternaljoy: please listen harder
[10:44] <eternaljoy> LjL: whats your first language anyway?
[10:44] <Psykus> i can't seem to eject my DVD drive
[10:44] <LjL> eternaljoy: italian.
[10:45] <Plouj> Psykus: unmount it
[10:45] <chuckyp> Pupilo, if its ntfs partition you don't
[10:45] <SeAwInDe> i have  asort of question , i am a newbie wanna be good in progeamming and networks , i installed slackware but people told me its not good for newbies , so what do u think
[10:45] <oskude> hmm eggrop seams dead...
[10:45] <Psykus> i think I manually mounted it at one point, and now it won't let me do anything with it
[10:45] <eternaljoy> LjL: I listen better than you explain!  your contradicting yourself all over the place and your words are not congruent :)
[10:45] <Psykus> david@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /media/cdrom1
[10:45] <Psykus> umount: /media/cdrom1: device is busy
[10:45] <Psykus> umount: /media/cdrom1: device is busy
[10:45] <Psykus> umount: /media/cdrom1: device is busy
[10:45] <SeAwInDe> i have  asort of question , i am a newbie wanna be good in progamming and networks , i installed slackware but people told me its not good for newbies , so what do u think
[10:45] <eternaljoy> LjL: im half Italian
[10:45] <gnomefreak> oskude: eggdrob is  apita
[10:45] <Plouj> Psykus: do lsof|grep cdrom1
[10:45] <SeAwInDe> do i think i should leave slackware
[10:45] <Plouj> Psykus: to see whats using those files
[10:45] <Pupilo> chuckyp: no it's a fat32
[10:45] <gnomefreak> SeAwInDe: if you like it leave it
[10:45] <Ratty_> upon entering startx, X seemed to use 1280x768 for a split second then switched to 1024x768, what would cause this?
[10:45] <nickrud> SeAwInDe, slack will force you to become knowledgeable. Very bare bones
[10:46] <oskude> gnomefreak, ? renamed ?
[10:46] <eternaljoy> SeAwInDe: what can slackware do that Ubuntu cannot?
[10:46] <Psykus> ah, I see what it is
[10:46] <chuckyp> Pupilo, then mount it and write to it.
[10:46] <Krillancello> I'm not entirely sure the word "congruent" can apply to anything outside of geometric shapes... o_O
[10:46] <min> #ubuntu-fi
[10:46] <shadowman> hello
[10:46] <shadowman> :)
[10:46] <Plouj> eternaljoy: install properly
[10:46] <gnomefreak> oskude: its a pain in the butt
[10:46] <floppyears> hi
[10:46] <oskude> gnomefreak, ah, ok :)
[10:46] <SeAwInDe> eternaljoy, i dont know i told u i am a newbie
[10:46] <floppyears> I started a grdesktop session in fullscreen, how can I get back to gnome ?
[10:46] <tjb891> were do I go to ask a question about installation
[10:46] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: are you an expert in the English grammar and language? if not, you are not qualifed to disagree with the experts in this field :)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> tjb891: here is fine
[10:47] <SeAwInDe> they told me slackware is a powerful distro
[10:47] <eternaljoy> SeAwInDe: its "you", not u :)
[10:47] <Pupilo> chuck: the problem is cause, it is mounting but i can't send information to that partition
[10:47] <Krillancello> eternaljoy: Are you?
[10:47] <oskude> hmm, my favorite languge (was) php, but ill think ill go with a python bot...
[10:47] <eternaljoy> SeAwInDe: who told you slackware is powerful?
[10:47] <SeAwInDe> eternaljoy, i dont know i told you i am a newbie
[10:47] <gnomefreak> oskude: good luck finding one :)
[10:47] <SeAwInDe> some friends
[10:47] <chuckyp> Pupilo, How are you mounting it?
[10:47] <nickrud> SeAwInDe, they are all equally powerful. They all run the same software, and use the same kernel
[10:47] <tjb891> ok i install it fine but then when i boot ununtu it gibe me a black screen with a blinking curser with no keyboard responce after it goes throught he entire ubuntu boot sequence
[10:47] <SeAwInDe> nickrud, so what is the differences
[10:47] <oskude> gnomefreak, found allready many
[10:47] <LjL> eternaljoy: all i have to say as an excuse for my english is that i've (virtually) met a number of native english speakers whose english sentences i could correct at every odd word or so.
[10:47] <Plouj> but some have a lot of BS in between
[10:47] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: no, thats why I rather accept the defination of the word congruent from the experts in the English language before I accept your flawed defination :)
[10:48] <eternaljoy> LjL: yeah true :)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> tjb891: if you sit and wait does it give you an error?
[10:48] <Plouj> yo, seriously, have any of you here re-compiled your ubuntu kernels?
[10:48] <tjb891> no
[10:48] <nickrud> SeAwInDe, slack's package management sucks air, you need to compile a lot of things, ubuntu puts you in a better position on those two things
[10:48] <Plouj> then don't answer!
[10:48] <tjb891> it has no responce, no loading
[10:48] <Krillancello> eternaljoy: I never gave a definition. I only stated that _I_ don't _believe_ it could be used in such a context as you had used it in.
[10:48] <eternaljoy> SeAwInDe: your friends who told you slackware is powerful, are they linux experts qualified to come to such a conclusion?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> tjb891: did you install using server install or just default?
[10:49] <tjb891> default
[10:49] <SeAwInDe> eternaljoy, no
[10:49] <Plouj> I would like to know how to deal with having a custom kernel installed and installing nvidia drivers
[10:49] <SeAwInDe> nickrud, is ubuntu a live cd
[10:49] <Plouj> since the nvidia-* packages require the normal ubuntu kernel
[10:49] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: well, your "_I_ don't _believe_" was based on assumption not agreed fact by the experts in the English grammar and language
[10:49] <chuckyp> Pupilo, How are you mounting it?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> Plouj: i think you would have to build them in to the compiled kernel
[10:49] <nickrud> Plouj, try getting the nividia stuff for your custom kernel from nvidia itself, and compile them
[10:50] <eternaljoy> SeAwInDe: seeing your friends are not, then why do you believe your friends who are not qualified to conclude that slackware is more "powerful"?
[10:50] <Krillancello> eternaljoy: No, my statement was based on what I knew of the word. My own personal experiences and knowledge.
[10:50] <Plouj> nickrud: what do you mean by "getting the nividia stuff for your custom kernel"
[10:50] <klaxian> does anyone know why I can't GPG sign files through nautilus?  There are no errors and it asks for my passphrase, but doesn't create a signature
[10:50] <klaxian> and thoughts?
[10:50] <Plouj> I would like to let synaptics manage my nvidia packages
[10:50] <nickrud> Plouj, get the nvidia driver from nvidia, not ubuntu.
[10:50] <Plouj> nickrud: ok, I don't want to do that
[10:50] <gnomefreak> any linux distro can be more powerful than another depending on how its set up
[10:50] <Plouj> I'm not familiar with ubuntu filesystem yet
[10:51] <nickrud> Plouj, then, run an ubuntu kernel if you want to use ubuntu kernel modules
[10:51] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: what if your own personal experiences and knowledge were based on limited and inaccurate data to begin with? then your conclusions would be flawed
[10:51] <Plouj> well, thats crap
[10:51] <nickrud> Plouj, that's normal.
[10:51] <Plouj> the only reason I have to run a custom kernel is cuz ubuntu refues to boot on my system otherwise
[10:51] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: Interpretation of new data and information is dependent on previous input!  BUT WHAT if your previous input was based on limited, incomplete and false data???  That means all your beliefs and conclusions are WRONG!
[10:51] <Plouj> thats annnoying
[10:51] <nickrud> :)
[10:51] <LjL> eternaljoy: isn't this a risk that everybody incurs almost every time they make a conclusion on something?
[10:51] <clearscreen> DCOM DIE
[10:51] <Plouj> I don't have time to learn all that
[10:52] <chuckyp> Plouj, yes typically compiling your kernel isn't needed anymore with modules that can be loaded and unloaded etc...
[10:52] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: Question and challenge everything you see, read, and hear and believe for accuracy and truth!  Most of what you believe has been derived from limited, incomplete and inaccurate sources, information and data!
[10:52] <AlbanianLord> nuckrud it worked man and i fit loads of songs onto those 8mm cds
[10:52] <tjb891> by the way i have a emachines 633mh,256mb ram, TNT 2  32mb graphics card, and a pericom usb ethernet adapter that does not ahve any linux drivers
[10:52] <Pupilo> chuck: no, ubuntu mount automatically when it began
[10:52] <AlbanianLord> *nickrud
[10:52] <eternaljoy> LjL: yes, thats why its important to verify the accuracy of the "original data"
[10:52] <nickrud> can't imagine why someone would want to try building a 2.6 kernel anyway, there's so much distro work needed on the vanilla stuff
[10:52] <Plouj> chuckyp: mind helping me figure out how to boot stock ubuntu kernel on my system then?
[10:53] <Pupilo> chuckyp: no, ubuntu mount automatically when it began
[10:53] <eternaljoy> LjL: Question and challenge EVERYTHING you hear and read for accuracy!  and even then, realise your conclusions could be based on limited, incomplete and innacurate data and information. Your "reference source" that you are comparing your information with could be wrong.  Hence, you come to wrong conclusions that you think is truth.
[10:53] <LjL> eternaljoy: though you can only do that by means of further data, which might as well be flawed
[10:53] <trappist> Plouj: nvidia modules (and all kernel modules) are very kernel-specific.  if you use a custom kernel you go to nvidia.com and run their installer.  it's actually not that hard.
[10:53] <Krillancello> eternaljoy: Regardless of what you may think, unless I am made aware of all of the facts on a particular subject matter, I am just the opposite; unaware of these facts. If I am unaware of these facts, what I think will be in accurate. Does that mean it's not what I think, or that I'm thinking incorrectly? No. It means I am laboring under a misconception, or that the basis of my ideas are incorrect. That does not indicate a problem with my own logic,
[10:53] <gnomefreak> ok guys can you please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:53] <chuckyp> Pupilo, then check your /etc/fstab and make sure its mounting it rw  "meaning read write"
[10:53] <eternaljoy> LjL: indeed that is true, so whats why its important to keep open mind and realise we could be wrong about something
[10:53] <eternaljoy> LjL: now you are getting it :)
[10:53] <klaxian> does anyone have an idea why I can't GPG sign files from nautilus but i can from the command line?
[10:54] <chuckyp> Plouj, No i'm just adding that it is rare for people to have to compile there own kernel anymore.  but in your case of not being able to boot it may be necessary.
[10:54] <Plouj> trappist: ok, but I would prefer to figure out how to make the stock ubuntu boot on my system
[10:54] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: even if you had all the "facts", some parts of the "facts" could be derived from limited, incomplete and inaccurate sources to begin with
[10:54] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: no such thing as "facts"
[10:54] <Krillancello> eternaljoy: If I'm wrong about something, I'm wrong. Big deal. Should I automagically know that I'm wrong, if I'm not enlightened to the right idea?
[10:54] <roidelapluie> I'll come back, I rester my X-Server
[10:54] <trappist> Plouj: what happens when you try?  what do you change in the config to make it work?
[10:54] <roidelapluie> **restart
[10:54] <gnomefreak> klaxian: you may beable to (for the most part everything can be done either cli or gui) but i dont know how
[10:55] <eternaljoy> Krillancello: no! you should always be aware that you "could be wrong" and keep open mind!  thats all :)
[10:55] <trappist> eternaljoy: #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:55] <trappist> Krillancello: you too.
[10:55] <eternaljoy> trappist: ok
[10:55] <eternaljoy> brb
[10:55] <nickrud> Plouj, I was gone for a bit, did you try that suggested initial root disk on your grub command line?
[10:55] <Plouj> trappist: this is what happens: http://plouj.no-ip.com/kubuntu3.jpg, to make it work I just copied my gentoo config, and there are a lot of things changed, I haven't nailed it down yet
[10:56] <klaxian> gnomefreak: i can do it from the command line, but it's convenient from nautilus
[10:56] <nickrud> nope
[10:56] <Plouj> nickrud: ya, the initrd doesn't seem to help (I tried initrd=/boot/initrd.img)
[10:56] <trappist> Plouj: breezy or dapper?  scsi or sata boot device?
[10:56] <Plouj> trappist: breezy, sata boot device, on nforce4
[10:56] <gnomefreak> klaxian: you can do it from both just not sure how
[10:57] <oskude> Plouj, i have initrd.img-2.6.12-10-386
[10:57] <trappist> Plouj: I wonder if it works on dapper.  have you filed a bug report or searched launchpad for the bug?
[10:57] <klaxian> gnomefreak: in nautilus there is a Sign option when you right click a file...it asks me for my passcode but then does not create the detached signature
[10:57] <nickrud> Plouj, try initrd.img-with some numbers
[10:57] <oskude> Plouj, wait, got a smaller, initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386
[10:57] <oskude> Plouj, should be breezy standard
[10:58] <Plouj> initrd.img -> initrd.img-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[10:58] <Pupilo> chuckyp: in that partitions fstab says defaulds... is it posible to change it?
[10:58] <nickrud> Plouj, ok
[10:58] <Plouj> humm
[10:58] <Plouj> I'll try again
[10:58] <Plouj> cuz I actually did initrd=/initrd.img (forgot /boot)
[10:59] <chuckyp> Pupilo, yes, it should be mounting it as vfat with rw permissions
[10:59] <Cyorxamp> !paste
[10:59] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[11:00] <Pupilo> chuckyp: i change defaults for what?
[11:01] <chuckyp> Pupilo, change defaults to auto so it would look something like this.   /dev/hda1  /windows  vfat  auto,rw,umask=000 0 0
[11:01] <chuckyp> Pupilo, then just make sure you have permissions to write to the directory that you are mounting it to and you should be good to go.
[11:02] <Shed> Guys, do you recommend Captive as the best way to mount an NTFS drive as read/write?
[11:02] <nickrud> Shed, no. (of course, I don't recommend any method)
[11:02] <chuckyp> Pupilo, after changing it then you would umount /windows and then mount /windows and you should be good subsitutue windows with whatever directory you are mounting to.
[11:02] <trappist> Shed: I've heard a few horror stories, but afaik it's the only way to do it without spending money
[11:02] <Cyorxamp> Hi could someone please give me a hand getting my system to use more than one monitor?  I have had a crack at editing the xorg.conf found here --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9688
[11:03] <nosilver4u> Cyorxamp: what gfx card?
[11:03] <Plouj> kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda7 initrd=/boot/initrd.img
[11:03] <trappist> Cyorxamp: if you use the fglrx drivers you can use fglrxconfig to set it up for you
[11:03] <Plouj> that doesn't work :(
[11:03] <Cyorxamp> trappist, no this is another computer :P
[11:04] <Plouj> in other words, I get the same problem
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ok lets try to fix this :(
[11:04] <Cyorxamp> nosilver4u, 2 graphics cards actualy... a Rage 128 Pro Ultra (1 head) and a Appain Gemini (basically a savage mx chip) with 2 heads
[11:04] <Plouj> where did you say I should search for?
[11:04] <nickrud> Plouj, try pointing directly at the files, without links (unless you're sure grub follows them)
[11:04] <nosilver4u> ok, lookin at it now
[11:05] <mickej> gotta truble over here
[11:05] <oskude> Cyorxamp, i have no idea about this, but you have all more than once expect "screen"...
[11:05] <mickej> i bought asus notebook with ATI Xpress 200
[11:05] <Cyorxamp> oskude, your not making any sense
[11:05] <trappist> Cyorxamp: not sure what you mean by "another computer", but if you have an ati card, my advice still stands
[11:05] <mickej> but Xorg stucks when trying to initialize X
[11:05] <Plouj> nickrud: I'm sure it follows links, otherwise it wouldn't be able to boot the kernel (vmliuz)
[11:06] <Plouj> vmlinuz*
[11:06] <oskude> Cyorxamp, i was just thinking maybe you need more than 1 screen section... (but as i said, i have no idea. never done this)
[11:06] <Plouj> who the heck came up wit that name anyways
[11:06] <Cyorxamp> trappist, you helped me a while back with this issue... but it was a different pc - fglrx drivers are not relevant on this one - the ati card is too old... not to mention the ati card in this is not dual head
[11:06] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, he's saying you need more than one instance of screen
[11:06] <nickrud> Plouj, or, boot into gentoo, chroot to breezy, then run sudo update-grub. Copy the correct stanza to your gentoo
[11:06] <trappist> Cyorxamp: oh.  how'd the other one work out?
[11:06] <Plouj> nickrud: what does update-grub do exactly?
[11:06] <Cyorxamp> chuckyp, oskude  - the only thing I have to go on is my dual screen xorg.conf (a radeon card) off another pc - which doesnt have 2 screen sections
[11:07] <Cyorxamp> trappist, yeah thats working nice... but then it did have the fglrx-config program :P
[11:07] <mickej> cyorxamp: laso tried, still not functioning
[11:07] <oskude> Cyorxamp, roger
[11:07] <nickrud> Plouj, reads all your os installs, and creates a menu.lst that boots them all
[11:07] <mickej> also*
[11:07] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:07] <trappist> Plouj: it's explained well in the man page
[11:07] <Cyorxamp> mickej, laso?
[11:07] <oskude> Cyorxamp, did you used 2 graphics cards wiht the previous setup ?
[11:07] <mickej> cyorxamp> *also
[11:07] <nickrud> Plouj, I normally let a new os on a partition take over grub, then readjust to my tasts
[11:08] <mickej> :-P
[11:08] <d351GuJu> startkeylogger
[11:08] <nickrud> *tastes
[11:08] <icicled> is it wise to create a raid 0 or LVM across 2 partitions that reside on different disks? (1 IDE drive and other SATA) ?
[11:08] <Cyorxamp> oskude, no thats just 1 card with 2 heads (a nice radeon 9500 using fglrx drivers)
[11:08] <Plouj> erm, I see this: http://paste.opsat.net/?/304/ I'm kinda scared of replacing my grub
[11:08] <trappist> thanks Seveas
[11:08] <confrey> anybody using dvdauthorr and qdvdauthor? I have menu items all pointing to the same track, and I dont'know why
[11:08] <cafuego> Seveas: oh come on, don't ban the 31337 hacker dudes!
[11:08] <oskude> Cyorxamp, hmm, so that wouldnt need 2 screen sections, but maybe 2 cards need 2 screens...
[11:08] <Cyorxamp> mickej, so you've tried to attempt what i've mentioned and its not working for you?
[11:08] <mickej> nah
[11:08] <mickej> not
[11:08] <Seveas> ehrm
[11:09] <Cyorxamp> nosilver4u, any ideas?
[11:09] <mickej> still got troubles with xorg
[11:09] <Pupilo> chuckyp: No it doesn't function
[11:09] <Cyorxamp> nosilver4u:  I know it is communicating with the second gphx card - the pci bus ID is correct and monitor says 'Aye aye there something going on here' - but doesnt show anything
[11:10] <chuckyp> Pupilo, un mount it then mount it via terminal to a directory i.e. mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[11:10] <CarlFK> !ubotu: seen
[11:10] <chuckyp> Pupilo, If you could post your /etc/fstab to pastebin it would help.
[11:11] <Cyorxamp> (repeat) could someone please give me a hand getting my system to use more than one monitor?  I have had a crack at editing the xorg.conf found here --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9688
[11:11] <Pupilo> chuckyp: this is the line /dev/sda7       /media/sda7     vfat    auto,rw,umask=000 0 0
[11:11] <cafuego> Seveas: I have a copy of Nortons layoing about, I should install it and do a 'strings' on the dll's,, see what other fun is in there ;-)
[11:11] <mickej> cyorxamp: it is telling me, that i didn't defined any screen
[11:11] <Seveas> cafuego, hehe
[11:11] <Cyorxamp> what is telling you?
[11:11] <mickej> the xorg
[11:12] <cafuego> (and then test on #mirc, not #ubuntu)
[11:12] <Cyorxamp> well I don't have that issue
[11:12] <chuckyp> Pupilo, and you remounted it I'm assuming since it took you so long to come back?
[11:12] <mickej> :-(
[11:13] <ompaul> cafuego, pm?
[11:13] <progrock> What file systems do you guys prefer (when speed is primary concern)?
[11:13] <cafuego> ompaul: am
[11:13] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, might you know the answer to my woe's ?
[11:13] <mickej> better said: any idea, how to configure xorg for my ATI Xpress 200 with 1280x800 LCD???
[11:13] <cafuego> progrock: Speed should never be the primary concern. Secondary, maybe.
[11:13] <LjL> cafuego: try testing it on #1,0 :)            (don't this at home)
[11:13] <ShauOFT> how can i install automatix?
[11:13] <ompaul> cafuego, what are you doing up at 7:15 of a saturday?
[11:13] <ShauOFT> im trying to install the latest firefox
[11:13] <plouj_> YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:13] <plouj_> I think I fixed it
[11:14] <ompaul> !automatix
[11:14] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:14] <cafuego> ompaul: it's 9:15. (Doing laundry, dishes, vacuuming)
[11:14] <plouj_> all I had to do is add initrd=/boot/initrd.img on a _separate_ line from kernel=....
[11:14] <progrock> cafuego, well what should be then?
[11:14] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[11:14] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:14] <ShauOFT> cool
[11:14] <Cyorxamp> Hi could someone please give me a hand getting my system to use more than one monitor?  I have had a crack at editing the xorg.conf found here --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9688 (can give more details on the setup too)
[11:14] <trappist> plouj_: awesome.
[11:14] <ompaul> cafuego, my I pm u?
[11:14] <cafuego> progrock: stability should be concern #1. No amount of 0.05% speed increase is going to add up to more time then you migth spend restoring from backup ;-)
[11:14] <cafuego> ompaul: yep
[11:14] <erik__> I would like to change my theme what folder would it be in to install
[11:15] <plouj_> nickrud, thanks for suggesting using grub-install
[11:15] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, add another screen line.  Or take a look at the other pc you have it working on and you will see.
[11:15] <cafuego> ompaul: Well, if you're identified with nickserv, anyway
[11:15] <Cyorxamp> chuckyp, other pc has only 1 screen section
[11:15] <progrock> cafuego, well what filesystem d you recommend?
[11:15] <Pupilo> chuckyp:This is the original fstab  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9689
[11:15] <mickej> chuckyp: how should the screen section look like??? you have mentioned my problem ...
[11:16] <Bad-Wolf> i have 1 question what space i need to install Ubuntu?
[11:16] <tatters> When I cd /etc/     then view smb.conf in CLI window mAKE a change how do a I close or save changes to get back to command prompt?
[11:16] <Seveas> Bad-Wolf, how much do you have?
[11:16] <Bad-Wolf> 1gb
[11:16] <cavediver> Hi!. Is there a GUI for ffmpeg availible ?
[11:16] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, i got 2.2gb and its pretty fresh standard ubuntu breezy
[11:16] <Seveas> that's not enough
[11:16] <cafuego> progrock: boring old ext3
[11:16] <cavediver> I have 40GB...
[11:17] <Seveas> cavediver, mplayer
[11:17] <Bad-Wolf> i need instal to my old pc
[11:17] <chuckyp> Pupilo, did you remount it.
[11:17] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, I don't know how you would do it then.
[11:17] <cavediver> Seveas: can I use mplayer to convert formats ?
[11:17] <cavediver> How ?
[11:17] <Seveas> Bad-Wolf, I think you're better off with damn small linux or featherlinux
[11:17] <Seveas> cavediver, mencoder
[11:17] <Pupilo> chuckyp: yes, i umount and them i mount
[11:17] <cdubya> anyone have issues with FF 1.5 randomly having issues hanging.......it's driving me nuts. I can work in FF for a bit and then after working for a little while, I have to close the entire session of FF that's open (any and all FF windows) and then restart FF to get it to be responsive. I thought I had heard about a memory leak on FF, but I'm not absolutely certain about the validity of that......any ideas?
[11:17] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, with 4gb your should be done for a long time
[11:17] <cavediver> does mencoder have a gui ?
[11:18] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, cant remember even having / over 3gb
[11:18] <Seveas> iirc there is an experimental one (never used it tho)
[11:18] <Bad-Wolf> what linux i can install at 1gb
[11:18] <cold> I just started up the ubuntu distro and the totem has no mpeg support, what plugin should I download to get that ?
[11:18] <Bad-Wolf> OLD
[11:18] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, you need two screens but if you don't want to I can't help you.
[11:18] <cafuego> Bad-Wolf: Most of them , as long as you stick to basics.
[11:18] <tatters> how do I return to command prompt if I use ping ... how do I stop it from running
[11:18] <cafuego> tatters: ctrl-c
[11:18] <xunil> bad wolf you mean ghz?
[11:18] <tatters> k thnx
[11:18] <CarlFK> Bad-Wolf: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingXubuntu
[11:18] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, you could install ubuntu with the server option (should be ~200mb) and then install some lightweight WM, browser, and so on
[11:19] <chuckyp> Pupilo, can you paste your current /etc/fstab also to pastebin it looks like you have two windows partitions.
[11:19] <nickrud> Plouj, I stepped away again. Glad to hear you're set finally
[11:19] <Cyorxamp> chuckyp, ok will try it... but still not sure how to get the third working
[11:19] <xunil> i would go with debian sarge with a 1 ghz system
[11:19] <confrey> anybody using dvdauthorr and qdvdauthor? I have menu items all pointing to the same track, and I dont'know why
[11:19] <CarlFK> also Ubuntu-lite, but I am not sure what the diff is
[11:19] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, well then you would need three screens
[11:19] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, yup, xubuntu is a good start
[11:19] <Cyorxamp> chuckyp, the second gphx card has 2 heads you see... do I just make another device with the same bus ID?
[11:19] <cdubya> are there any decent browser alternatives to FF?
[11:19] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, You have three monitors hooked up?
[11:19] <danc3> cdubya: some people like Opera
[11:19] <Cyorxamp> chuckyp, yeah... 2 on the second ghpx card and 1 on the first
[11:19] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, I thought it appeared that the dual head was in there let me look agian.
[11:19] <nickrud> cdubya, epiphany is pretty good
[11:19] <neoginn> can i get some help writing a essay for my class please
[11:20] <Pupilo> chuckyp: yes i have to partition but i don't want to modify the other one
[11:20] <danc3> neoginn: no
[11:20] <Cyorxamp> chuckyp, the Appian thing is the dual header one
[11:20] <cafuego> cdubya: Uninstall flash
[11:20] <neoginn> please
[11:20] <cdubya> nickrud, I wouldn't mind using epiphany FT if it rendered pages right.......but it whacks lots of pages I view......
[11:20] <cafuego> cdubya: and disable java
[11:20] <danc3> neoginn: no
[11:20] <cdubya> cafeugo, uh.....ok.
[11:20] <oskude> lol
[11:20] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, wheres the pastbin link again
[11:20] <neoginn> please!!!!!!!
[11:20] <Bad-Wolf> and how i can install if a cd Boot Not works ?
[11:20] <oskude> neoginn, how about just asking some concrete...
[11:20] <cafuego> cdubya: Those two account for 99.999% of firefox problems.
[11:20] <Cyorxamp> chuckyp,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9688
[11:20] <cdubya> cafeugo, the mozilla-flashplayer or whatever that was called?
[11:20] <nickrud> cdubya, internet explorer specific?
[11:20] <Bad-Wolf> or avalabla flopy boots
[11:20] <neoginn> concrete?
[11:20] <cdubya> nickrud, more than likely.
[11:20] <neoginn> why
[11:21] <neoginn> ???
[11:21] <xunil> bad wolf boot to your cdrom drive
[11:21] <danc3> neoginn: do you have a question?
[11:21] <xunil> set it in bios
[11:21] <erik__> how do I find the theme folder?
[11:21] <oskude> !ask
[11:21] <Bad-Wolf> Bios old :d
[11:21] <neoginn> yes
[11:21] <Bad-Wolf> avard
[11:21] <nickrud> cdubya, some people swear by explorer in wine, but I haven't tried it yet
[11:21] <Bad-Wolf> stupid
[11:21] <danc3> neoginn: than ask your question
[11:21] <cdubya> nickrud, not that it's a huge deal, but it is certainly a pain to navigate when text falls behind say a flash image.....
[11:21] <cdubya> nickrud, nawwwww, it's ok. I won't ever feel that desperate.
[11:21] <cdubya> heh
[11:21] <xunil> bad wolf go to manufacturers website and flash the bios with a new version
[11:21] <oskude> neoginn, ask your dictionary for "concrete" (not that build material)
[11:21] <neoginn> here is my question: the theme of "this life is a preparation for the next" is found in many writings, explain.
[11:21] <nickrud> plugin, plugin who's got a *good* plugin :)
[11:22] <danc3> neoginn: go away
[11:22] <xunil> ibm?
[11:22] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, Okay i'm assuming you would need another device then for the appian or some sort of line in the xorg.conf stating that its a dual head.
[11:22] <Bad-Wolf> no
[11:22] <xunil> what brand
[11:22] <cdubya> cafeugo, can I just remove the flash plugin from .mozilla/plugins.......er whatever that dir was...(searches to find it....)
[11:22] <oskude> neoginn, what does that has to do with ubuntu ?
[11:22] <Bad-Wolf> Pentium 120 Mhz 1Gb 32ram :D
[11:22] <Bad-Wolf> old
[11:22] <Bad-Wolf> :D
[11:22] <xunil> 120 mhz lol
[11:22] <Bad-Wolf> what
[11:23] <danc3> neoginn <------- trolling
[11:23] <Seveas> neoginn, this is an Ubuntu support channel - no other crap in here please, there's enough crap in Ubuntu already 
[11:23] <neoginn> it has everything to do with it, becuase i got to write a paper using it.
[11:23] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, I would search around for dualhead xorg appian on google or something similiar.  But once you get that sorted out then you just need a screen for each monitor and head.  Then you specify what the screen is to display i.e. left right middle etc...
[11:23] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, i got a 200mhz latpot with xfce4, works but is pretty slow...
[11:23] <xunil> bad wolf make into boat anchor
[11:23] <oskude> lol, latpot
[11:23] <Bad-Wolf> no problem
[11:23] <neoginn> so help me please
[11:23] <neoginn> come on
[11:23] <Bad-Wolf> i made is not for me
[11:23] <Bad-Wolf> for sister :D
[11:24] <ShauOFT> how can i upgrade breezy to latest flight 4 dapper releease?
[11:24] <danc3> thank you Seveas
[11:24] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, like in the server layout section
[11:24] <cge> Bad-Wolf: you could try installing debian instead.
[11:24] <Bad-Wolf> my pc is 1000 mhz :D
[11:24] <Bad-Wolf> its a beetter
[11:24] <Bad-Wolf> ?
[11:24] <Bad-Wolf> but i need with kde gnome
[11:25] <neoginn> seveas i am sorry
[11:25] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, my desktop is 1.2g duron, and i dont have needs to have faster, all works fast enough (except 3d games;)
[11:25] <neoginn> please dont kick me again.
[11:25] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, with 120mhz you should forget gnome or kde...
[11:25] <Pupilo> chuckyp:  yes i have to partition but i don't want to modify the other one
[11:25] <gnomefreak> neoginn: do you have an issue with ubuntu?
[11:25] <mickej> chuckyp: how should the screen section look like??? you have mentioned my problem ...
[11:25] <Bad-Wolf> my frend have instaled Mandrake
[11:25] <Cyorxamp> chuckyp, yeah that just doesnt seem to work
[11:26] <Bad-Wolf> and works fine
[11:26] <danc3> neoginn <---------- troll
[11:26] <cdubya> cafeugo, you talking about just turning off java in the FF prefs?
[11:26] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, or if you have enogh time, it should work (but need more space than 1gb)
[11:26] <neoginn> actually i would like to know when dapper will be released
[11:26] <cge> Bad-Wolf: On a 120Mhz?
[11:26] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, i.e. Screen 0 "1stmonitor 0 0 'and below that' Sreen 1 "2ndmonitor" RightOf "1stmonitor"
[11:26] <gnomefreak> april 20th
[11:26] <Bad-Wolf> yep
[11:26] <oskude> neoginn, lol
[11:26] <chuckyp> mickej, what problem are you talking about.
[11:26] <Bad-Wolf> 5 mandrake
[11:26] <neoginn> can i buy it at like Best Buy?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> i think danc3 is right
[11:26] <chuckyp> Cyorxamp, I would hunt around for documentation on a dual head card or that driver.  And see.  I don't have any experience with dual heads.
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:27] <cge> Bad-Wolf: Err, isn't mandrake 5 ancient?
[11:27] <danc3> excellent
[11:27] <Cyorxamp> :S
[11:27] <duck> yay
[11:27] <duck> danc3 is back
[11:27] <danc3> yes, hello
[11:28] <Bad-Wolf> or i can or not install some linux with Graphic
[11:28] <Bad-Wolf> ?
[11:28] <Bad-Wolf> to 1gb space
[11:28] <chuckyp> Pupilo, I have No idea what you are talking about anymore.  I've lost track with the 5 minute wait between replies perhaps someone else can help you if you ask. Or try searching the forums because I know other people have your same problem.
[11:28] <danc3> Bad-Wolf: could you repeat that, in English?
[11:28] <patrick__> hi there
[11:28] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, yes,
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Bad-Wolf: no not in a million years you cant install server install on 1gb
[11:28] <kenichi> hi folks
[11:28] <cold> anyone know the mpeg support plugin for totem ?
[11:28] <cge> Bad-Wolf: my suggestion would be to install Debian, and select packages to install manually rather than use tasksel.  I really don't think Ubuntu will work.
[11:28] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, you just cant use gnome or kde (propably)
[11:28] <duck> meh wine :(
[11:29] <patrick__> i would use mplayer
[11:29] <patrick__> totem sucks , if you ask me
[11:29] <Bad-Wolf> i need
[11:29] <ttread> cold, that should be in win32-codecs
[11:29] <xunil> u need a command line, no gui
[11:29] <kenichi> i've got a problem with my dvd burner. can anyone help me?
[11:29] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, as you need a pretty big swap file (when you have only 32mb ram)
[11:29] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[11:29] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:29] <danc3> lol
[11:29] <patrick__> hehe lol
[11:30] <Bad-Wolf> i have downloaded ubuntu-5.10-install-i386
[11:30] <chuckyp> ubotu, tell kenichi about ask
[11:30] <kenichi> well
[11:30] <patrick__> as anyone already got photoshop cs installed with wine ?
[11:30] <cge> Bad-Wolf: Or actually, look at DSL. It should work.
[11:30] <xunil> this wolf dude just isnt listening
[11:31] <chuckyp> patrick__, plenty of people have ifyou look on winehq's appdb
[11:31] <kenichi> i've got an GSA-4120B LG dvd burner
[11:31] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, you could try that xubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <danc3> kenichi: well, what?
[11:31] <patrick__> well i got it installed, but it's working very well
[11:31] <kenichi> first my burner only burned dvd-r with only with 1x velocity
[11:31] <kenichi> then i activated dma
[11:31] <plouj_> humm, I tried installing nvidia drivers by following the ubuntu wiki but something doesn't seem to work as glxinfo |grep direct says that I'm missing GLX extensions
[11:31] <patrick__> maybe some of you had some tips
[11:32] <gnomefreak> plouj_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx  did you run that?
[11:32] <kenichi> then he burned faster. but all dvds i burned could not be read by dvd drive or dvd player
[11:32] <patrick__> but photoshop 6 is working, so good enough for me
[11:32] <xunil> plouj this is what i use for ubuntu guide
[11:32] <plouj_> gnomefreak, I installed it through the gui package manager
[11:32] <xunil> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[11:32] <kenichi> now i have read somewhere to not enable udma2 but mdma2
[11:32] <Bad-Wolf> i need any linux os with GNOME , KDE to be installed to 1gb
[11:32] <cge> Bad-Wolf: At damnsmalllinux.org.
[11:33] <plouj_> nvidia-glx is already the newest version.
[11:33] <danc3> Bad-Wolf: do you have a question, or are you just randomly blurting out stuff that makes no real sense?
[11:33] <kenichi> but the burned dvd is not readable
[11:33] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, as i said you gonna have VERY hard times with 32mb ram
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kenichi about dvd
[11:33] <patrick__> if installed my nvidia drivers with this howto http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Breezy
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kenichi about enter
[11:33] <Bad-Wolf> (I cant Boot From CD-ROM)
[11:33] <patrick__> and then method 2
[11:33] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, how about just installing an finding out if the space is enogh ?
[11:34] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, then you need floppies or netboot
[11:34] <cge> Bad-Wolf: I think there is a floppy for DamnSmallLinux.
[11:34] <kenichi> dvd playing is possible
[11:34] <Bad-Wolf> Flopies
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Bad-Wolf: what are you looking for here. do you want to install ubuntu how much space do you have for ubuntu install
[11:34] <kenichi> but the burned dvd cant be auto-mounted
[11:34] <Bad-Wolf> to help
[11:34] <oskude> Bad-Wolf, debian has good netinstall floppies
[11:34] <gnomefreak> no floppies for ubuntu yet but there is a netinstalll
[11:34] <Bad-Wolf> find me a Linux oS
[11:34] <danc3> my ghod, I can't take this channel any more...
[11:34] <iBalo> Bad-Wolf: your only option would be damn small linux, which is optimized for 'atticware' or deli-linux... go to distrowatch.com to learn more
[11:34] <cge> gnomefreak: Bad-Wolf wants to install on a 120Mhz 1Gb HD w 32mb ram
[11:34] <patrick__> lol
[11:35] <ompaul> Bad-Wolf, have a look at http://www.distrowatch.com
[11:35] <gnomefreak> no gonna happen maybe get damnsmalllinux on 1 gig :(
[11:35] <ompaul> gnomefreak, dsl is 50 megs
[11:35] <cge> Bad-Wolf: There also is another distro I used to use about 5 years ago that was even smaller and fit on between 2 to 10 floppies, but I can't remember the name.
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ompaul: thats unpacked?
[11:36] <ompaul> gnomefreak, .... it will load fully into 64mb of ram
[11:36] <oskude> i have debian stable running on a 200mhz 32mb 2gig (xfce4)
[11:36] <gnomefreak> iirc they have distros that will fit on a pen drive
[11:36] <iBalo> puppy-linux would be an option, too
[11:36] <ompaul> Bad-Wolf, got an internet connection on anything else?
[11:36] <Bad-Wolf> yep
[11:37] <Bad-Wolf> only at my pc
[11:37] <Bad-Wolf> internet
[11:37] <colm> 50MB, that's damn small!  I was about to recommend zipslack, it's 100
[11:37] <ompaul> iBalo, puppy-linux is not good
[11:37] <kenichi> does anyone know a solution perhaps?
[11:37] <Psykus> hey, can anyone help me get sound working in xawtv?
[11:37] <ompaul> Bad-Wolf, does it have a cd burner?
[11:37] <Bad-Wolf> i have
[11:37] <cge> Bad-Wolf: Yes, if damn small linux doesn't work, you can try mulinux, which is _really_ small, but is also _really old_.
[11:37] <Bad-Wolf> i have 2 pc
[11:38] <Bad-Wolf> i 120mhz old 2 2000mhz 40gb
[11:38] <iBalo> that's true ompaul , but somtimes 'not good' is better than not running at all :-(
[11:38] <ompaul> iBalo, dsl is smaller and does not run as root
[11:39] <xunil> puppy linux is pretty decent
[11:39] <ompaul> xunil, it does run all processes as root, if you had puppys desktop and dsls running ability you would be made
[11:40] <iBalo> Actually ompaul is right, and it's common sense already that DSL is the best choice for obsolete hardware... BTW i have a rescue-system with xfce4/xfe on a 122 MB-Usb-pen...
[11:40] <kenichi> does anyone know, if gsa-4120b dvd-burner needs udma2 or mdma2 for working correctly? or perhaps something different?
[11:41] <rpr812> Dsl is not just for obsolete.  It recognizes and uses dual processors and hyperthreading.
[11:41] <gnomefreak> kenichi: are you using ubuntu linux?
[11:41] <xunil> how bout hyper bj
[11:41] <Bad-Wolf> ftp://sunsite.auc.dk/pub/os/linux/mulinux/mu/
[11:41] <cge> Bad-Wolf: I would try DSL first though.
[11:41] <kenichi> im using breezy
[11:41] <dstryr> what would be the problem yo, im trying to watch a .mpeg video, but the player said, i need a proper decoder
[11:41] <dstryr> wtf is this?
[11:41] <kenichi> or else i wouldnt be here i think ;)
[11:41] <iBalo> of course, running fluxbox on 4 Gb Ram/multiproc machines is the sensible thing to do :-)
[11:41] <rpr812> I am  having trouble verifying that my ubuntu actually sees my two xeons.
[11:42] <Unity>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY juicykittypie
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dstryr about restricted
[11:42] <Unity> =(
[11:42] <ompaul> Bad-Wolf, I think you need to look at floppies and Debain
[11:42] <iBalo> Unity: time for a new password :-)
[11:42] <cge> Bad-Wolf: mulinux is ancient, and should only be used if _nothing else works_
[11:42] <Unity> iBalo: i'm one step ahead of you
[11:43] <kenichi> gnomefreak: you know something, that could help me?
[11:43] <Bad-Wolf> i now downloading mu linux 8 min remaining :)
[11:43] <ompaul> Bad-Wolf,  debian to be honest, check the floppy install and go from there it will work pity
[11:43] <dstryr> !FreeFormats
[11:43] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:43] <rpr812> ubuntu claims to use symetric processing, but when I run system monitors it only shows one of my two processors
[11:43] <gnomefreak> kenichi: im wondering why you dvd burner doesnt work most of them work out of box
[11:43] <gnomefreak> rpr812: are you using the smp kernel?
[11:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rpr812: Did you install the -SMP kernel?
[11:44] <rpr812> I am using the latest one on the download site
[11:44] <gnomefreak> rpr812: is it smp?
[11:44] <Seveas> rpr812, install the smp kernel...
[11:45] <rpr812> The reason I downloaded ubuntu is because I thought it was already built like dsl, to use smp, however it looks like I was wrong.  I do not know how to install smp.
[11:45] <kenichi> gnomefreak: well, it worked out of the box, but only with 1x burning speed. but it can burn 8x. then i read about activating udma, because udma is not acitvated in ubuntu by default. so i activated it, but then burning dvd images did not work anymore... dvd were not readible after burning
[11:45] <Seveas> rpr812, intel or amd cpu?
[11:45] <rpr812> dual xeons
[11:46] <cge> Bad-Wolf: Remember, mulinux is ancient - 2.0 based kernel for example.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> intel
[11:46] <Seveas> rpr812, apt-get install linux-686-smp
[11:46] <NoobieAtUbuntu> hi guys, Im getting error's on startup: it says there are errors in the root system ,and when it does a check it comes up with errors
[11:46] <gnomefreak> kenichi: you need software to view dvds
[11:46] <NoobieAtUbuntu> then it freezes rather than booting
[11:47] <NoobieAtUbuntu> it says: bad or duplicate sector in use
[11:47] <gnomefreak> kenichi: i sent you the dvd info in your pm
[11:47] <rpr812> I downloaded the 686 version but it does not work on processors unless they are 64 bit enabled.
[11:47] <Psykus> hey, can anyone help me get sound working in xawtv?
[11:47] <NoobieAtUbuntu> is there any way I can run a disk check or something ?
[11:47] <NoobieAtUbuntu> I'm currently booted off the 'live' ubuntu cd
[11:47] <Upayavira> Can anyone tell me what /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libcidn-2.3.6.so might be a part of?
[11:47] <xunil> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMP-HOWTO.html
[11:47] <rpr812> many xeons are not 64 bit, even though they are ht enabled.
[11:47] <xunil> google is our friend
[11:48] <cge> Bad-Wolf: try going to the #damnsmalllinux channel.
[11:48] <Spliffster> has any one here an advice how to resize partitions without loosing data (tools) ?
[11:48] <kenichi> gnomefreak: right, i know that software is needed to watch dvds, but first of all i can watch dvds, and second i cant even mount the dvd. and my standalone dvd player also cant
[11:48] <rpr812> dsl is good for dsm, but it is not stable.
[11:48] <iBalo> NoobieAtUbuntu: why would you want to do that? file-system corruption is very rarein linux using journalled filesystems like reiser or ext3
[11:48] <sorush20> !pdb
[11:48] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sorush20
[11:48] <dstryr> i noticed that nix downloads faster than windows
[11:49] <NoobieAtUbuntu> iBalo, my file system IS corrupt...
[11:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Spliffster: I recommend GParted for that - it's what I would use.
[11:49] <dstryr> but nix suck at desktop-use
[11:49] <sorush20> guys how do I view .pdb files?
[11:49] <kenichi> gnomefreak: and the image is also correct. i can watch it with vlc and i also tried another image for burning. but it wasnt readable as well
[11:49] <NoobieAtUbuntu> so I want to check whether it's the HD itself that's buggered
[11:49] <sorush20> !.pdb
[11:49] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sorush20
[11:49] <iBalo> NoobieAtUbuntu: what type ist it?
[11:49] <Spliffster> PuMpErNiCkLe: can it resize partitions ?
[11:49] <cge> NoobieAtUbuntu:  man badblocks
[11:49] <xunil> hmmm i think nix is superior desktop
[11:49] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ta cge
[11:49] <Bad-Wolf> my pc is doesnt boot from CD-ROM
[11:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Spliffster: Yeah.  I think it's even on the livecd, but I haven't checked.
[11:50] <ompaul> NoobieAtUbuntu, using a webbrowser do >>sudo fisk -l<< and paste output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:50] <gnomefreak> live cd can partition drives
[11:50] <Spliffster> PuMpErNiCkLe: ok ty, i didnt know it was capable of that ... maybe i have to unmount the partition first i guess
[11:50] <rpr812> anyone know of a smp linux besides dsl?
[11:50] <cge> Bad-Wolf: But DSL has a boot floppy! You just put the floppy in, and the CD. Then it boots from the floppy, and runs off the CD.
[11:50] <xunil> gnome, kde, xfce, englightenment, something for everybody on one of those desktops
[11:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Spliffster: Uh, yeah... you *always* unmount partitions before you change them.
[11:50] <Spliffster> gnomefreak: i dont want to partition, i'd like to resize an existing partition without loosing data
[11:51] <Bad-Wolf> and so this linux works with cd
[11:51] <dli> do I need to install kernel source or kernel headers for hsfmodem?
[11:51] <Bad-Wolf> becouse is a LiFe CD
[11:51] <gnomefreak> rpr812: if you get the smp kernel ubuntu will work. if you want another disrto try #ubuntu-offtopic or the distro of choice channel
[11:51] <Psykus> Spliffster, I think you'd need something like partition magic for that
[11:51] <Spliffster> PuMpErNiCkLe: well, i was hoping a *clickedyclick* programm was telling me that before doing the work ... eh ?
[11:51] <oskude> rpr812, any linux you name has smp kernel, no ?
[11:51] <Some-Person> i need help w/ ubuntu installing
[11:51] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ompaul, it came up with what looks like irc logs
[11:51] <Some-Person> i wanna get in a PM w/ a tech
[11:51] <Spliffster> Psykus: THAT'S WHAT I TOUGHT TOO ... BUT MY OLD VERSION CAN'T HANDLE EXT3
[11:51] <cge> Bad-Wolf: Does the computer not have a CD drive at all?
[11:51] <Spliffster> sry 4 caps
[11:51] <gnomefreak> Some-Person: ask in channel not pm
[11:51] <Some-Person> ok
[11:51] <Psykus> oh
[11:51] <Bad-Wolf> have
[11:51] <ompaul> NoobieAtUbuntu, well I want you to >>paste sudo fdisk -l<<
[11:52] <xunil> whats the ideal size for a swap drive
[11:52] <Bad-Wolf> but cd will be olways inside
[11:52] <gnomefreak> double your memory up to 1gig
[11:52] <Spliffster> xunil: twice the ammount of ram as rule of thumb
[11:52] <Some-Person> Can GParted make the partition changed in the zip file i'll send to anyone who can help me?
[11:52] <xunil> gnomefreak thanks
[11:52] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ompaul, into a web browser navigation bar ?
[11:52] <rpr812> I got the smp kernel but it only works with xeons which are newer, as compared to dsl which works even with dual pentium 3's
[11:52] <Spliffster> xunil: but on a laptop at best 0/zero/nada ... if u have anough ram
[11:52] <cge> Bad-Wolf: After you start up DSL, there is an option to install on the hard drive.
[11:53] <Some-Person> see now why i must ask in PM?
[11:53] <ompaul> NoobieAtUbuntu, in the address bar you put http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and it wiill be obvious from there
[11:53] <Spliffster> xunil: no swap = less disk activity = longer battery life
[11:53] <rpr812> the smp version of ubuntu does not actually use smp for my dual xeon 2.4g system
[11:53] <oskude> rpr812, then you need to rewrite your question...
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Some-Person: always ask in channel first you get better help that way now if someone is gonna help you they will
[11:54] <Some-Person> i just did
[11:54] <dli> rpr812, recompile your kernel
[11:54] <Some-Person> Can GParted make the partition changes in the zip file i'll send to anyone who can help me?
[11:54] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9690
[11:54] <gnomefreak> i understand that but starting off as a pm is not normally a good idea
[11:54] <dstryr> gnomefreak, i tried that w32codecs, still wont play wma/mpg/wmv
[11:54] <Some-Person> without losing data
[11:54] <dstryr> should i get a new player or someshit?
[11:54] <bluefusion> Hi guys
[11:55] <anto9us> Some-Person, I don't understand what you're asking
[11:55] <Spliffster> PuMpErNiCkLe: GParted doesn't list unmounted partitions ... heh ?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> dstryr: what player are you using?
[11:55] <NoobieAtUbuntu> !tell dstryr about easyubuntu
[11:55] <dstryr> totem
[11:55] <bluefusion> How do I mount my hard drive so i can browse it? NTFS partition
[11:55] <gnomefreak> dstryr: try mplayer
[11:55] <iBalo> !mountwindows
[11:55] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:55] <gnomefreak> i dont know much about any players i dont use them but i hear mplayer will play more files than totem
[11:55] <rpr812> I do not like dsl for several reasons, and I like ubuntu for several reasons, but I need an operating system that recognizes dual processors, like windows 2000 or xp.
[11:56] <Some-Person> !mountwindows
[11:56] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:56] <ompaul> NoobieAtUbuntu, now do this >> df | grep hda << does it return something if so is the number 1, if not please say it returns nothing
[11:56] <bluefusion> ta
[11:56] <cge> rpr812: Try debian?
[11:56] <Some-Person> please help me!
[11:56] <gnomefreak> rpr812: what is the output of uname -r
[11:56] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ompaul, returns nothing
[11:56] <Some-Person> Can GParted make the partition changes in the zip file i'll send to anyone who can help me without losing data?
[11:57] <ompaul> NoobieAtUbuntu, do this and sit back >>sudo fdisk /dev/hda1<<
[11:57] <Yaksha> hey
[11:57] <rpr812> I have not yet learned to recompile, so I need a version like dsl that automatically uses smp.
[11:57] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ompaul, will that keep the existing file system >
[11:57] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ?
[11:57] <spec> How do I edit the right-click-on-desktop menu?
[11:57] <Yaksha> i just got ubuntu and i cant get into msn chats can someone help me?
[11:57] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ompaul, or will it wipe what is there ?
[11:57] <anto9us> Some-Person, don't repeat please. I think you need to rephrase your question, it makes little sense as far as I can tell
[11:57] <kenichi> gnomefreak: any idea?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> rpr812: go into synaptic and search for smp kernel there should be one in there iirc
[11:57] <ompaul> Some-Person, gparted does not deal with zip files
[11:58] <Yaksha> ?????
[11:58] <Some-Person> Can GParted make the partition changes i want to make without losing data?
[11:58] <oskude> gnomefreak, he allready has it, but it doesnt support his cpu
[11:58] <cge> Some-Person: Usually.
[11:58] <ompaul> NoobieAtUbuntu, sorry
[11:58] <Plouj> isn't there a ubuntu glx channel?
[11:58] <Some-Person> i'll send screenshots thru dcc to anyone who wants to help me
[11:58] <oskude> gnomefreak, he said...
[11:58] <Cyorxamp> cge, whats the exceptions?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> oskude: he just said he didnt learn to compile it
[11:58] <dstryr> how do you decompress tar.bz2
[11:58] <gnomefreak> thats why i asked for uname -r oputput
[11:59] <ompaul> NoobieAtUbuntu, what I want you to do it this, (no that would not have but you can do a lot of damage from there but the command as was would not)
[11:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dstryr about tar
[11:59] <oskude> gnomefreak, before that...
[11:59] <dli> dstryr, tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2
[11:59] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ompaul, I'm running "badblocks" on /dev/hda1 atm
[11:59] <gnomefreak> oskude: i saw. but he has said alot of controdicting things
[11:59] <ompaul> NoobieAtUbuntu, >> sudo fsck -y /dev/hda1 << that will actually try to fix problems
[11:59] <cge> Cyorxamp: Usually as in no, but back up valuable things.
[11:59] <NoobieAtUbuntu> ok
[11:59] <ryan_ishere> hello
[11:59] <ryan_ishere> im having a bit of a problem
[12:00] <ryan_ishere> and i went to a tech support site
[12:00] <ryan_ishere> and now i want to shoot myself