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ryanakcahow do you install splashy without having to uninstall kubuntu desktop?12:03
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ttreadwimpies, on mine the resolution looks correct but if I go into the dialog to change it it shows the wrong value12:04
ryanakcabtw... I'm trying to install this theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2476012:04
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wimpiesI am going to recover my breezy X configuration and install the fglrx driver and see what that gives12:05
ttreadI always seem to end up editing xorg.conf by hand anyways12:06
zax1i have nautilus installed( i think)12:09
zax1i searched for all files with that name, and tryed runing the program, does it need any special attention, or jsut clicking it should run it, cuz i get all sorts of messages but no actual running program12:10
zax1am i missing something ?12:11
ttreadzax1, nautilus is the file manager for Gnome - not usually used on KDE, and I'm not sure it would work12:11
zax1oh.... i looked on adept for a cd burner utility12:12
zax1and that came up12:12
zax1it had a sexy name, so installed it12:12
fatejudgerzax1: k3b12:12
zax1k3b ?12:12
fatejudgerzax1: k3b12:12
zax1would that do dvd and cds ?12:12
ttreadIt's true, nautilus does burn CDs, but k3b is better and is included in Kubuntu12:12
fatejudgerzax1: it should already be installed12:12
ttreadk3b is on the multimedia menu12:12
ttreadit does burn dvds and cds12:13
zax1wil lgive it a go12:13
zax1many thanks again12:13
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ryanakcahow do you install "splashy" without having to uninstall "kubuntu-desktop"?  btw, I'm trying to install this splash screen: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2476012:13
zax1right . looks fantastic12:15
zax1thanks guys12:15
zax1i am in your debt12:15
wimpieszax1 : and even better while you are burning something your linux system can still be used wherease windows generally is too busy12:15
ttreadk3b is really good, have fun12:15
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zax1if you live in the UK, maybe i can repay you12:15
zax1http://1564.tchosts3.net12:16
zax1let me know12:16
zax1off i go12:16
zax1thanks, and bye12:16
atidemhi folks12:17
atidemI have a problem12:17
atidemcant create a table when use date type in mysql12:18
atidemI receive a sintax error12:18
atidemis it a bug?12:18
atidemor something else?12:18
brssebhi fellow (k)ubuntulovers. i got most of it working now, only one problem left. external VGA out on my laptop.12:20
brssebit works, but only at a very low resolution12:20
ttreadatidem, this is not really a mysql forum, but my guess is you've made a typo or otherwise got the syntax messed up12:20
brssebhow do i make it support a larger display?12:20
atidemttread: create table test( date test_date);12:21
atidemwith this simple test I receive a sintax error12:21
brssebatidem: dont the name of the datatype come before the type itself?, like CREATE TABLE test ( mydate DATE) ;?12:22
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atidembrsseb: nope12:23
ryanakcaatidem: its written like this: create table test(test_date date);   on http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-sql/2004-01/msg00064.php12:24
ryanakcaatidem: never mind12:24
ryanakcaatidem: You never saw that... that is postgresql... my bad12:24
ryanakcaatidem: best thing I can suggest is trying in #mysql12:25
atidemi'm on chan yet12:25
atidemthanks12:25
ryanakcakk12:25
ryanakcabbl12:25
wimpieswhat it the main archive for kubuntu ? be.archive.unbuntu.com seems to be missing files12:25
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ttreadatidem, have you tried create table test( test_date date);   ?   From what I'm seeing in the mysql documentation it seems that the column name comes before the datatype12:32
atidemttread: yes12:32
atidemit works now12:32
atidemstrange error12:32
atidemI tried before and did work12:32
atidemnot12:32
atidem*12:32
ttreadOk12:33
atidemin standard sql sintax is DATE IDENTIFIER12:33
ttreadI'm looking at this page: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/create-table.html12:34
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ttreadIt's confusing because they don't give simple examples but seems to be  (identifier type)12:34
atidemyes12:35
atidemI downloaded the same doc in chm format12:35
atidemand no nice example to understand it12:35
atidemI have to go now12:36
atidemttread: thanks12:36
atidembye12:36
ttreadatidem , you're welcome, bye12:36
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Crashoverideanyone wanna tell me how to install php4?12:38
_B_is there anyone using crypto on file system ?12:39
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ttreadCrashoveride: apt-get install php412:40
Crashoveridedoes kubuntu have a ftp or http host built in?12:41
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bufalo_1973hello12:42
ttreadCrashoveride, you can install both from the repositories12:43
Crashoveridekk12:43
Crashoverideeeer how do I update my counterstrike server?12:44
ttreadcan't help you with that one12:44
Crashoverideok12:44
Crashoveridebrb12:44
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Crashoverideok so how would i setup a ftp server?12:48
ttreadCrashoveride, I haven't done that but you can look in the repositories, I know there are several available12:49
Crashoverideum i only have ever used konsole12:50
ttreadCrashoveride, sudo aptitude search ftp12:51
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ryanakcahow do you install "splashy" without having to uninstall "kubuntu-desktop"?  btw, I'm trying to install this splash screen: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2476012:52
ttreador even better, sudo aptitude search ftp | grep server12:52
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Crashoveridek12:54
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ttreadryanakca, System settings - Desktop - Splash Screen?12:55
Crashoverideok installing thanks12:55
ryanakcattread: http://24.226.20.171/~ryan/README      that's the readme for installing it12:56
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Crashoveridehow do i set my account as root?12:58
incineratorCrashoveride: I would recommend proftpd12:58
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incineratordefault config gives access to each user's home directory by default, and the rest is easily done by checking out the sample configs and reading documentation12:58
incineratormany howtos in the net, as well12:58
Crashoveridefor proftpd shud i use standalone or inetd12:59
ryanakcattread: any ideas?12:59
ttreadryanakca, take a look at http://www.kde-look.org/comments/discussion.php?id=2&forumpage=27#c13404112:59
incineratorCrashoverride: or this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PureFTP12:59
ttreadother than that, I haven't done it so can't tell you, sorry01:00
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ryanakcattread: thats a kdm theme instalation...01:01
federicohi  there everyone! :)01:01
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ttreadryanakca, Splashy is a theme , or at least that's what it says01:02
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incineratorbah, pureadmin is in universe, but pureftpd isn't ???01:02
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Celestehi01:02
federicohi Celeste!01:02
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incineratoroh, it is01:04
incineratorCrashoveride: no need to download that package from the forums, it is in universe...01:04
calliecan anyone recommend a good kde FTP client?01:04
incineratorI use nfcftp, it's console but nice01:04
CelesteIs it dangerous anyhow to install GNOME on  Kubuntu?    Someone told me it could destroy my system - Is this true?01:04
incinerator^ncftp01:04
bufalo_1973callie, which clients have you used until now?01:05
incineratorCeleste, no everything should be fine01:05
Celesteincinerator, what do I need to install?    only   aptitude install gnome    or something special?01:05
calliebufalo_1973, none in kde, normally just use command line bufalo_197301:05
bufalo_1973callie, try kbear or konqueror01:05
bufalo_1973I know there are others, but...01:06
ttreadcallie, gFTP works fine in KDE01:06
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calliei like to use native apps if possible ttread01:06
incineratorCeleste: you can use aptitude, but sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do just fine01:07
incineratorI'll give you no guarantee your pc won't explode, though ;-)01:07
Celesteincinerator, what is the difference between  1)  "apt-get install gnome"   and  2)   "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"  ?01:07
brssebanyone know how to enable the VGA out on laptops when the external display screen size is larger than the laptops? :)01:08
bufalo_1973incinerator, apt-get install = aptitude install01:08
brsseb1024x768 looks naassty on a dell 24" (1920x1200)01:08
incineratorbufalo_1973: I'll always load aptitude's frontend first before I do anything....01:08
Celestethe question is:  What is the difference between  "ubuntu-desktop"    and   "gnome"  ?01:09
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incineratoryeah, just checking01:09
bufalo_1973ok, incinerator, but using "aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" is the same than "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"01:09
incineratorindeed, bufalo_1973, indeed01:09
Tm_TCeleste: ubuntu-desktop gives ubuntu artwork and other ubuntu specialities, gnome gives only gnome stuff01:09
Crashoveridehaha01:10
ryanakcattread: splashy is simmilar to usplash... I thought it was a splash screen for when kde was loading01:10
incineratorTm_T: thanks....01:10
Tm_TCeleste: also, gnome meatpackage will give "all" about gnome, propably lot more than you wan't01:10
ryanakcaanybody know of themes for usplash?01:10
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CelesteTm_T, what would you suggest?01:11
CelesteTm_T, is it dangerous to install that much software from ubuntu?01:11
Tm_TCeleste: to stick with KDE =)01:11
CelesteI am  kinda afraid of this  ubuntu-desktop01:11
Tm_Thaha01:11
Celesteit it as good as installing gnome?01:11
Tm_Tbetter01:11
Celestehm01:12
Celesteare you op?01:12
ttreadok ryanakca01:12
bufalo_1973Celeste, is gnome with ubuntu "extras"01:12
incineratorCeleste: ubuntu-desktop will give you the same experience as a normal ubuntu-install, whereas the gnome package might not01:12
brssebtalking about Ubuntu. anyone know how i can install JUST "gedit"? its such a handy little text editor :)01:12
bufalo_1973brsseb:01:12
incineratorid's say ubuntu-desktop is less likely to break anything than gnome01:12
Crashoveridehow do I unpack/Install a .tar.gz01:12
bufalo_1973brsseb, apt-get install gedit01:12
Tm_Tbrsseb: kedit ;)01:12
incineratorand all the xyz-desktop package should coexist peacefully...01:12
crwebbrsseb: well, you would need the things gedit depends on. so "just gedit" wouldn't do you any good with out gtk, adn stuff01:12
Celesteincinerator:  what extra stuff will I get?01:12
Tm_TCeleste: yes I am, what about it?01:12
CelesteTm_T, so I can belive you more *g*01:13
crwebbrsseb: so you just need to apt-get it.  apt-get will install exactly what is needed,  not more01:13
brssebkedit: command not found :|01:13
incineratoryou can check that in aptitude01:13
Tm_TCeleste: erh... ok01:13
crwebbrsseb: apt-get install kedit kate01:13
crwebbrsseb: i like kate01:13
Tm_TKate <301:13
brssebit cant seem to find the packages, not gedit nor gedit01:14
incineratorCeleste, in aptitude you can list the dependencies, all the currently unsatisfied dependencies are marked in red colour01:14
brssebdo i have to do something with the repository urls after installing?01:14
bufalo_1973brsseb, try aptitude search gedit01:14
Celesteok I will install ubuntu-desktop  now01:14
Celestethank you incinerator  and Tm_T01:14
Celesteif it does not work ... I will come back ;-)01:14
Celesteand if it works ... I will also come back *g*01:15
calliegod damn geocities sucks01:15
crwebgeocities still exists?01:15
crwebwow01:15
Celestegeocities still exists?01:15
CelesteLOL01:15
ryanakcacallie: install apache :)01:15
Celestecrweb  ;)01:15
brydennk guys i'm back and still need help figured out how to mount my slave windows HD01:15
brssebohhnno..gnome is invading my lovely KDE distro!!01:15
brydennwanna get the mp3s off of it :)01:15
callieryanakca, i dont think that will help me in this instance01:16
brsseba bunch of gnome-packages came down the pipe01:16
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Tm_TGood night folks, stay in peace ->01:16
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Celestere01:22
CelesteTm_T?01:22
incineratorwow, install done already?01:23
Celesteincinerator!  cool you are here01:23
CelesteI need you help please01:23
incineratorgo ahead01:23
Celestewhen I want to start the installation of  "ubuntu-desktop" I am beeing told that the follwing package will be REMOVED01:23
Celestelibesd001:23
Celeste... whats do you say?01:23
incineratorthat's ok01:23
Celestethen its fine with me too01:23
incineratoras long as it doesn't say any packages are broken that will be ok...01:24
Celestethank you!01:24
Celestewill come back soon!01:24
Celeste10 mins or so01:24
incineratorsure...01:24
Crashoverideany one here not use linux because they game?>01:28
incineratoryup, I play nethack ggg01:29
incineratormany games available for linux though...01:30
Crashoveridei know01:30
incineratorhttp://happypenguin.org/01:30
bufalo_1973Crashoveride, "not use linux" should be "not use only linux" ;)01:30
incineratoroh, that's me, as well ggg01:30
incineratorbloody pacificpoker.com client doesn't run with wine yet01:30
Crashoveridebut what i have come by using no machine to pull over my linux form my server =P01:31
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JohnFluxgood,anyone that plays poker deserves to use windows :P01:31
cenobyteis SLI supported for kubuntu01:31
cenobyte?01:31
Crashoveridelol why wud u need SLI?01:31
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cenobytequake 401:31
Crashoverideo01:31
Crashoverideright01:31
Crashoverideis there a linux version of quake 4?01:32
incineratordunnow, perhaps the non-free nvidia/ati drivers support it...01:32
cenobyteyup01:32
incineratori think there is01:32
cenobytea port anyway01:32
HobbseeCrashoveride: i have windows for sims 2 and age of empires - but then again, i have =<2 OS on this machine at any one time01:32
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Crashoveridecool01:32
JohnFluxpersonally I can't wait till xen works well01:33
Crashoveridei play wow and i am running a counter strike srver on the server right now01:33
JohnFluxthen I will just always run windows and linux together01:33
ryanakcabrb... rebooting to test the new kernel :)01:33
Crashoverideok01:33
cenobyteone waord CEDEGA01:33
cenobyteword*01:33
incineratorvalve's cleverest move evar01:33
JohnFluxincinerator: what is?01:33
incineratorreleasing linux versions of hl-server01:34
Crashoveride=P01:34
Crashoveridei love it how it autoupdates01:34
Crashoveridei have had my server running for 2 months straight...which im sure isnt that good for it but...its good01:34
cenobytewell is SLI supported01:34
Crashoveridesorry i dont know...01:34
incineratorcenobyte: we don't know01:34
cenobytek01:34
cenobyteill just post on the forums then01:35
Crashoveridekk01:35
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incineratorsearch the forums before you do, someone has probably asked that question before...01:35
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bufalo_1973incinerator, valve can stick the hl-server where the Sun doesn't shine if they don't do a hl-client01:36
Crashoveridelol why would you say that?01:36
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incineratorbufalo_1973, who care, that couple of thousand licenses they would sell extra don't justify the cost...01:37
Crashoverideexactly!01:37
incineratorplay nexuiz or another free software fps then...01:37
bufalo_1973then, why doing them "the favor" of supporting their game?01:37
incineratoror play q3 urban terror01:37
incineratoror was it strikeforce...01:37
incineratorbufalo_1973, exactly01:37
incineratori'm beyond care in that matter, i stopped playing fps a couple of years ago01:38
incineratorbut we're moving ot01:38
Crashoveridehehe have you ever tried battlefield two?01:38
bufalo_1973they don't make a linux client but want linux users as servers01:38
incineratorbufalo_1973: indeed, that's what i think was so clever of them01:38
incineratorCrash: i never even tried bf1942 one01:39
Crashoveridebuffalo_1973: linux is just so much more efficient for servers and doesnt have the support for drivers and such i think...im not that great with linux yet01:39
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Crashoverideincinerator: bf1942 isnt worth the time of day, bf2 is a great game, its like a fps for everyone other than fps players01:40
incineratori used to run a 16pls cs server on a p5-233 with 128mb, on FreeBSD01:40
incineratorbut that was before cs 1.0 came out01:40
Crashoveridelol i am running a css 20 people, 1024ddr201:41
Crashoveridei remember thoughs days01:41
incineratorit performed ok, tho01:41
incineratorcouldn't up it to 20pls, would get laggy, but 16pls was just fine01:41
Crashoverideim having trouble with my isp, it blocks 27015 and so I have to scramble the port and its really wierd01:41
incineratorbah01:42
Crashoveridebugs me01:42
Crashoverideoh hey i got  a qeustion for you, how do i set a static port on kubuntu?01:42
incineratoryou could run it on another port...01:42
incineratoryou mean port forwarding?01:42
Crashoveride(they block a range of ports)01:42
incineratorno clue, I use OpenBSD for firewalls01:43
Crashoverideno i wanna make the linux box static01:43
Crashoveridekk01:43
incineratorstatic port for what?01:43
incineratorstatic ip?01:43
Crashoveridenot static port static lan ip01:43
incineratorstatic ip is easy01:43
incineratorthere's an example in man interfaces01:44
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incineratoror use a gui network config thingy of your choice01:44
Crashoveride?01:44
incineratorwell, I don't know which, I always edit /etc/network/interfaces directly01:44
incineratorkde/kubuntu probably have a tool for that though01:45
incineratoryeah, system settings....01:45
incineratoris your friend01:45
Crashoverideok what ssome cool ways i can change my linux?01:47
incinerator???01:47
incineratorisn't it cool enough already?01:47
Crashoveridelinux isnt that great if your using it out of the box01:47
incineratorwell, if you're an fps fan install yakuake from universe....01:47
gleesondhas anyone in here used scons?01:47
incineratorf12 gives you a drop-down konsole like quake does ggg01:47
gleesondfor some reasion its not seeing a lib that I know is in /usr/lib01:48
incineratorfreshly installed lib?01:48
incineratorldconfig01:48
incineratormight help01:48
incineratorbrb, cigarette01:49
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Crashoveridebrb01:51
Crashoverideahahah yakuake is soa wesome01:52
incineratorback01:52
incineratorhmmm, where's celeste01:52
incineratori'm getting sleepy01:52
Crashoveridehehe where you from?01:53
incineratori live in scotland01:53
Crashoveridenice01:53
incinerator5 to 1am here01:53
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Crashoveridethats like a whole continent away01:53
brssebquick question. Why cant the root user launch like "gedit" or any graphical app from xterm  while normal users cant?01:54
incineratorgnomesudo gedit01:54
brssebim trying to use gedit to edit xorg.conf...01:54
incineratoror whatever gnome uses like kdesu01:54
incineratorkdesu gedit?01:54
brssebgnomesudo: command not found01:54
incineratorbut first apt-get install xemacs01:55
incineratorrunning kde?01:55
brssebyeah01:55
incineratordo kdesudo then01:55
brsseband ive installed gedit01:55
incinerator^kdesu01:55
brssebkdesudo: command not found :|01:55
Crashoverideok guys im gonna go do my home work Ill ttyk01:55
incineratorkdesu gedit01:55
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brssebkdesu gedit => cannot connect to X server 0.001:56
incineratorthat's strang01:56
incineratorkdesu xemacs works for me...01:56
brssebyeah. everywhere i search and go ppl said it should work just fine..01:57
brssebbut it dont :(01:57
incineratortry gnomesu gedit01:57
incineratormight not be installed though01:57
brssebgnomesu command not found01:57
incineratorwhy would you run gedit anyways?01:58
brssebgedit ist installed, acoording to "apt-get install gedit"01:58
bufalo_1973brsseb, not to me, whenever I try to run any program from a konsole as root it tells me too "cannot connect"01:58
brssebi like it :)01:58
incineratorweeell, if you're root in the console already it won't work01:58
brssebbut whats the KDE alternative to gedit?01:58
bufalo_1973kedit01:58
incineratordo a xhost + as normal user before you become root01:58
wimpiesanybody knows where I can find a w32codec package for mplayer ?01:59
brssebkedit: command not found01:59
incineratorwimpies: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf01:59
bufalo_1973wimpies, do you have universe in your repositories?01:59
incineratorbrsseb: quite the bloody root mode, use sudo instead02:00
incineratoror kdesu for kde apps02:00
_B_w32 codec linked at mplayer homepage02:00
incineratoruniverse/multiverse don't have the w32codecs....02:00
_B_essential codec pack its called over there or similar02:00
brssebok. so it works in non-rootmode and using sudo before all commands02:01
incineratoranyways, that's it for me for today, good night folks02:01
Pupeno_brsseb: kwrite02:01
Pupeno_brsseb: also check out kate.02:01
brssebbut why on earth cant the root launch apps? it can foramt the drive but it cant use gedit :)?02:01
incineratorkedit should be install by default....02:01
Hobbseeincinerator: use kwrite02:02
wimpiesbufalo : yes I have but perhaps not all :)02:02
incineratorbrsseb: there is no root in ubuntu02:02
bufalo_1973incinerator, then I'm in a "parallel reality" 'cause they're in "my" universe/multiverse02:02
bufalo_1973:)02:02
Hobbseeincinerator: there is, it's disabled02:02
Hobbseebrsseb: gedit isnt installed on kubuntu by default02:02
incineratorbufalo_1973: I don't think so02:03
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brssebstill odd. but thx for the help guys02:03
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bufalo_1973sorry, incinerator, you're right, it's there... but it's not :P02:03
Celestere02:04
Celesteincinerator!02:04
Crashoveridewhats a good free* online game for linux?02:07
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bufalo_1973Crashoveride, www.happypenguin.org ?02:09
brssebstupid n00b-question: whats the path for the rc.local file again ?02:10
brssebgoogle isnt much help tonight02:10
Hobbseelocate rc.local02:11
incineratorhe Celeste02:11
Celestehi incinerator02:11
incineratorhow did it go?02:11
brsseb"locate rc.local" didnt do anything02:12
Celesteincinerator, perfect ... just try to get a german keyboard ,.... but I think I already got the solution02:12
incineratordeutsche tastatur?02:13
incineratorshould be set in xorg.conf02:13
incineratorgnome should pick that up, but then there's probably a config tool for gnome just like for kde02:13
brsseb..im getting the feeling Kubuntu differ from Ubuntu in more than just KDE instead of Gnome...02:13
incineratorbrrseb: not by much I'd guess02:13
incineratorthe base system should be almost identical...02:14
brssebwell, teh code for setting up Ubuntu dont work for Kubuntu..im using 915resoultion hack to get 1280x768 res, and i need to set something in the /etc/init.d/rc.local, but the file isnt there02:14
Celesteincinerator, I need to restart X02:14
incineratorprobably02:16
Crashoveridewell im off for a bit ill bbl cya all02:16
incineratorif you've changed xorg.conf02:16
incineratorseeya02:16
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incineratorthere is no rc.local in ubuntu02:16
incineratornot by default02:16
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brssebbut i can just make the file then? and ubuntu will use it?02:17
incineratorbrsseb: no clue02:17
brssebok. but i got this online hack, "915resolution 3c 1280 768" that must be called somewhere during the boot. any good place for it to be?02:18
brssebits a bios hack to enable widescreen display on the laptop02:18
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Celesteincinerator, thank you!02:19
Celeste02:19
incinerator?02:19
incineratortry again02:19
rich0rd02:19
incineratorirc and encodings, always the same02:20
incineratorbetter02:20
rich0rdhrhr02:20
incineratorI usually don't use unicode, it screws up umlauts for the windows lusers02:20
incineratorCeleste, everything working now?02:20
Celesteincinerator, not all... there is one more thing I need to get working02:21
incineratorand that is?02:21
Celesteincinerator, but I think thats too special as that somebody could know the solution02:21
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Celesteincinerator, ever worked with  gDesklets?02:23
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incineratornever, I haven't used gnome for years02:23
incineratorthe #ubuntu channel's probably the right place to ask about gdesklets ggg02:23
Celesteoh yes :)02:24
incineratoranyways, I've got to go now, before my head damages the keyboard....02:24
incineratorgood night02:24
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Hobbseehehe02:25
Hobbseekeyboards are great for sleeping on!02:25
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wimpiesHow can I change my password ?02:36
jdongwimpies: open up a terminal, type passwd02:40
jdongidn if there's a more Kubuntu-ish way of doing it, but that always works02:41
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Hobbseewhat the heck?02:43
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_B_hey is anyone using encrypted file system for greater safety ?02:53
wimpiesjdong : no gui ?02:54
jdongunsure02:54
jdongwimpies: kuser might do it02:54
jdongdapper has it in the control center02:55
jdongSystem Settings02:55
jdongUser Account02:55
jdongunsure if it's in Breezy02:55
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csseyahgud am  guys02:59
csseyahquestion here!02:59
csseyahI would like to know if the username -> root can login in as a user in KDE??? anyone???03:00
wimpiesyou have to allow that in login manager03:00
csseyahyah but when im in Login Manager03:01
csseyahit asking for a password03:01
csseyahthen an error msg appear03:01
csseyahConversation SU failed03:01
csseyahwhat is the meaning of that bro???03:01
csseyahco'z the really reason is.. i would like to open the ADEPT but i can't open when i supply the root password...03:03
csseyahi like to install the RPM ...03:03
wimpiesyou need the password of the current user03:03
wimpiesnot root03:03
csseyahi do but it fails03:04
csseyahit there something wrong in my installation of kubuntu???03:04
wimpiesif you run adept then type in the user password that should work (works for me)03:04
csseyahit say to me that i need to login as a root in order to open that03:05
csseyahadept03:05
wimpiesyes but still type your password (sudo will take care of the rest )03:06
Celesteplease tell me what package contains  "glib-gettextize"03:06
wimpiesgo to debian site and lookup contents of packages03:07
Celesteok03:07
csseyahthanks03:10
csseyahgtg03:10
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brydennohhhhhhhh Hobbsee03:13
farousan idiot sent me a pdf file that is rotated. He scanned some pages upside down than sent it as pdf. Is there an application that i can use to rotate the pages back so i can edit it latter on with flpsed ?03:13
brydennyou there my little friend03:13
Hobbseehey brydenn03:13
brydennwhats up girl03:13
brydenn:)03:13
brydennhey i got a slight issue that needs some help03:14
brydenntrying to mount my slave windows xp HD03:14
brydennbut i dont just want to mount it once. i want it to auto mount all the time03:14
brydennso do i do that?03:14
brydenn*how03:14
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wimpiessee fstab and hope it is not NTFP (else reformat as ext3 and install extifs driver for XP03:15
brydennso in the Konsole just type: kate fstab03:15
brydenn?03:15
wimpiesman fstab perhaps first03:15
wimpiesthis is what I have : /dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs    ro,umask=000    0       003:16
brydenni see03:16
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brydennthe dev i'm trying to mount is /dev/hdb103:16
wimpiesbut /dev/sda1 depends on your system and you need to make the dir /media/windows03:16
wimpiesso /dev/hdb103:16
brydennyes03:17
wimpiesis it NTFS and do you want to write to it ?03:17
brydennlol yes and yes :)03:17
wimpieswell then reformat is as ext3 and mount ext3 from XP because NTFS and writing is not good03:17
wimpiesi do that all the time and it works great03:17
brydennso what the hell it can "read only" just fine but writing to the WIN XP disk is buggy?03:18
wimpiesyes03:18
brydennthat blows03:18
brydennhope they fix that in the next release of ubuntu03:18
wimpiesNo it has been around for many years03:19
wimpiesThere is an NTFS driver using the dll from windows03:19
wimpiesthe problem is that NTFS does strangs things and reverse engineering is difficult and hence buggy03:19
brydennyah i suppose03:19
wimpiesbut really do think about formatting as ext3 and use the followying driver03:19
brydennwell, if i format it dont i lose the data?03:20
wimpiesit is free and makes the ext3 driver behave just like an XP drivef (but without character case problems)03:20
wimpieshdb1 is data disk so backup the disk to another driver, format and restore03:20
wimpiesyou need Ext2IFS_1_10a.exe03:21
wimpiesgoogle around a bit03:21
brydennk03:21
brydennjust seems like a lot of work just to copy files from one HD to the next03:21
brydenncuz really thats mostly what i wanna do03:21
brydenncopy the mp3s from my XP HD to my linux HD03:22
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wimpiesSo again : make a backup of all your mp3 on the NTSF formatted partition03:22
wimpiesafter backup reformat as ext3 (from linux)03:22
wimpiesinstall driver abover under XP03:22
wimpiesrestore your mp3 on the now ext3 partition03:22
wimpiesand done ... never have to copy again EVER03:22
brydennk here's my question though...after doing that will the slave windows drive load to windows like normal once i switch it back to a single master?03:23
wimpiesyes windows will see it as drive Z: q: or whatever03:24
wimpiesI have an external USB driver I use like this and it works perfectly03:24
brydennhmm thats cool03:24
sirbluegnight folks03:24
brydennso once you install that driver on windows03:24
wimpiesI even have a FLASH PEN formatted this way03:24
brydenncool03:25
brydennso once i install that on my windows HD i can swap files flawlessly between my linux and windows HDs?03:25
wimpiesJust plug the PEN in and windows says ...driver X: ... or something but it is formatted as an ext3 driver but you cannot tell03:25
wimpiesyes, you do not even need to swap03:25
wimpiesWIndows and LINUX will consider the driver as native drives so you can share that driver between both03:26
brydennso its like they're the same file system right03:26
brydennie NTFS or EXT303:26
wimpiesnot like the ARE the same filesystem03:26
wimpiesLook at it like a CDROM03:27
wimpiesthe CDROM also has a filesystem type03:27
brydennk03:27
wimpieshowever both LINUX and WINDOWS have driver that understand the format03:27
brydennoh ok03:27
wimpiesinstalling the driver ext3 for XP makes XP understand about ext3 FS03:27
CelestePlease could anyone of you help me with the "Real Translucency" please?03:27
brydennthat makes sense now wimpies03:27
wimpiesgood03:28
brydennbut... my linux HD is the master HD03:28
brydenndoesnt that matter03:28
wimpiesmaster, slave, usb does not matter03:28
wimpieswe are talking about format of the partition and not the way drives are handled by the bios03:28
brydennbut how can "windows" interpurate EXT3 without running?03:29
brydenncuz linux is my main OS03:29
wimpiesThe only thing is that you cannot make window sboot from that partition but hdb1 is probably ok03:29
wimpiesinterpurate ?03:29
brydennbad spelling03:29
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wimpiesyes and hence I do not know what you are talking about03:30
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brydennits cool wimpies i think i figured it out, thank you very much03:30
brydenni'm googling now :)03:30
wimpiesgo go go ... :)03:31
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ltmongtkourounis: hi again... slightly quieter here03:42
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gtkourounisyup03:42
ltmonok... so I have looked up some docs on your laptop model.  Apparently using ndiswrapper with the BCMWL5a.inf from driver cd of Acer shouold work.  Is that the driver you used?03:43
gtkourounisya03:43
gtkourounisthats the one03:43
gtkourounisand thanx for the help03:43
ltmonnp03:44
gtkourounisapreciate it03:44
gtkourounisbeing a total ubuntu noob03:44
gtkourounislol03:44
ltmoncan you show the results of "sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifupwlan0" in a command prompt03:44
ltmonsorry "sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0"03:45
gtkourounisyup one second03:45
ltmon(no space)03:45
ltmonthis is bringing the network interface down and then up again03:45
ltmonthe output might give a clue03:45
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ltmonalso, don't paste output to the chanel... use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com03:46
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gtkourounishttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/58294603:49
gtkourounisi hope that will work03:49
ltmonok... i'm looking at it03:50
gtkourounisok03:50
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ltmonok... now paste the output of the command "cat /etc/network/interfaces"03:51
gtkourounishttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/58295003:53
gtkourounisthere it is03:53
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gtkourounissorry about that03:54
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ltmonyour wireless key looks a little strange: the line in that file starting with "wireless-key".  Can you check that.  Did you censor it deliberately or is that what it looks like in the actual file?03:55
gtkourounisthat is the actual code that i put03:56
ltmonok... well it doesn't look like any WEP key I've seen... but I'm not really that big on wireless.  My one looks like a 10 digit hexadecimal number.  That is, it has both numbers and capital letters from A-F in it.03:57
gtkourouniswell i could switch to one of those03:58
ltmonfor example: 240A9F991B would look like a WEP key.03:58
ltmontry that.03:58
gtkourounisok03:58
ltmonuse the "Networking" tool again.03:58
gtkourounisyup03:58
ltmonand put a hexadecimal key in the right field03:58
gtkourounisso u suggest i use a hexademical?03:59
ltmonthat's what I use... so i don't know any better :)03:59
gtkourounisok03:59
gtkourouniswell then i will try it03:59
gtkourounisone sec though i have to go offline and then online again03:59
ltmonok03:59
gtkourounismy router only changes settings with e-explorer03:59
gtkourounislol03:59
gtkourounisevil router03:59
gtkourounisbrb03:59
ltmonevil >:(04:00
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ryanakcahmmm... is gmail down for anybody else?04:02
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ltmonryanakca: good for me using POP access04:03
ryanakcaltmon: no... using the web04:03
ltmonryanakca: I was being lazy :P checking now04:03
ryanakcaltmon: it's been loading for 134 seconds so far :S04:04
ltmonryanakca: all good from here.04:04
ryanakcaltmon: hmmm... odd04:04
ltmonryanakca: it's probably an issue in your local area.  They probably mirror gmail all over the place04:05
ltmonryanakca: either that or some upstream issue with your isp04:06
ryanakcaI'm sure... well I'm off to bed!04:06
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brydennI LOVE THIS OS04:08
brydennhehe finally mounted my win xp hd04:08
ltmon*deafaning applause*04:08
brydennlol04:08
decafhi, I switched to KDE by installing kubuntu-desktop. I haven't use KDE since 1.1 version. my font settings seems no to apply all apps. for example adept uses very big fonts. anyone has a solution or can point a document?04:08
ltmondecaf: i think i heard of this once... i'll quickly look it up04:09
ltmondecaf: sorry.. it was a different issue.  That's really strange though.04:12
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ltmondecaf: does System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts look normal to you?04:12
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mosiachi i'm new and i seem to be having a little trouble getting my wireless device started in kubuntu are there some good faqs to read?04:13
decafyes, I'm using bitstream vera for all. also anti-aliasing04:13
ltmonsorry, not sure...04:14
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ltmonmosiac: what wireless device are you using?  Is it listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:14
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mosiaclol the one i'm trying itsn't compatable thanks ill check another04:16
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redarnaud je suis de retour et ca ne marche tjrs pas... snif04:22
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redcomment faire marcher le MP3 et le divx ?04:24
ltmonred: try #kubuntu-fr04:25
ltmonred: ne parle francais04:25
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redthank i did it04:25
ltmonok04:25
reditmon tu aurais une solution a mon problme04:26
ltmonred: je ne parle francais04:27
decafltmon: I did the biggest mistake for a long time linux user, didn't search enough before asking. I found this: applications that require root privileges uses root's settings. that's new for me. thanks for help04:27
ltmondecaf: ahhhh... it should be set up by default... but good that you fixed it anyway04:27
Draksterevening all ... just finished installing kubuntu and now I'm wondering how I get to init 3 so I can install my video card driver04:28
decafI think I should start with a fresh kubuntu install04:28
ltmonDrakster: init levels are different on Debian/Kubuntu04:28
DraksterI'm learnin that ltmon ...lol ... I've been using suse for the last year04:29
decafDrakster: what's your card?04:29
Draksternvidia04:29
Drakster4200 go (laptop)04:30
ltmonDrakster: that's ok :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:30
Draksterthanks04:30
redsomebody here can help me whith the MP3 and DIVX set up..i did all they say at the kubuntu.fr and still doesn't work.04:30
ltmonThe instructions are for Ubuntu, but most are easily translated to kubuntu04:30
Draksterthanks04:30
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bufalo_1973red, have you tryed to install an mp3-only player?04:32
bufalo_1973(tryed? tried?)04:32
redno i don't i try using kaffeine04:32
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bufalo_1973install mpg32104:34
redcould i remove gstreamer ?04:34
bufalo_1973why?04:34
root404DCC SEND "zzomgzomgwtfbbqpwn" 0 0 004:34
root404shit04:35
root404sorry04:35
root404wrong paste04:35
redto use xine04:35
bufalo_1973if I'm not mistaked you can have both installed04:35
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redok you're right04:36
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Draksterafter installing the nvidia drivers with adept do I need to reboot?04:39
Draksteror is there a way to re-start x ??04:40
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bufalo_1973good night05:01
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stupendo44does anyone here know of any linux software that will download a website?05:03
admrlstupendo44 wget..?05:04
stupendo44admrl: not a page, but the whole website05:04
Kamping_Kaiserwget05:04
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admrlnow why would you need to download a whole website..?05:06
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stupendo44admrl: I need to make changes to it, but I don't have a local copy. I also need to upload it to another location.05:07
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juzzywhats the default root password, i never got to set it05:09
Kamping_Kaiser!root05:09
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:09
Kamping_Kaiserstupendo44: i used scp05:10
juzzythank you Kamping_Kaiser05:10
Kamping_Kaisertry ftp otherwise05:10
Kamping_Kaisernp juzzy05:10
stupendo44Kamping_Kaiser: do you have a link?05:10
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Kamping_Kaiserstupendo44: lilnk to what?05:10
stupendo44Kamping_Kaiser: sorry, didn't know what scp is. now I do05:11
Kamping_Kaiserheh.05:11
stupendo44I can use wget to do it, just have to figure out the right commands05:12
juzzyKamping_Kaiser: whats the command to mount an ntfs hdd ... sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/old ???05:14
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Kamping_Kaiseryou probably need -t ntfs05:15
Kamping_Kaiser!ntfs05:15
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:15
Kamping_Kaisernothing here :/05:15
Kamping_Kaiserah, there.05:15
stupendo44juzzy: most of the time you don't need -t ntfs, but you could. otherwise that's the correct command05:15
juzzyhm ok05:15
juzzystupendo44:  whats the command to list all partitions on hda ?05:16
juzzywow wiki has it all!05:16
stupendo44juzzy: not sure, wish I knew05:16
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juzzywow, that auto mounter thing RULES!05:18
juzzythanks guys05:18
juzzy!xvid05:20
ubotuI haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, juzzy05:20
juzzy!divx05:20
ubotuit has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats05:20
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CaptainbrailleHello, anyone know alot about adept?05:50
bert_just use it, don't need to know much about it05:52
Captainbraillewell bert, I'm trying to add a repository from winehq.com  //  this is what they say to add .. "  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/  "  of course thats for synaptic, and I don't know how to get it to work in adept05:53
bert_This is all I've got in mine-    deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/05:58
bert_Doesn't that work?05:58
bert_Wine 0.9.8 is showing in the list in adept with that entry06:00
Captainbraillethis is what I get under "distribution"  "binary/"06:01
Captainbraillethen I fetch updates and the program crashes06:01
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Captainbraillewell thanks bert have a good one06:03
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bert_Mine shows the same, that's because we didn't type in an entry for distibution and components06:04
bert_But mine doesn't crash and wine is shown in adept OK06:04
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Evil_Hi got a noob question. i have kubuntu and WinXP dual booted on my laptop. i updateed to KDE 3.5.1 and now in Grub i have Ubuntu linux kernel 9, kernel 10 and windows. why are there two versions of linux?06:19
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stupendo44Evil_H: after you update the kernel, it still keeps the old one until you remove it. It's good in case there's problems with the new one.06:34
stupendo44Evil_H: just use Synaptic to remove the old kernel06:35
stupendo44Evil_H: it's not really two versions of linux, just the small bit that it needs to start linux (the kernel)06:35
stupendo44Evil_H: nothing else is a copy06:35
Arcanimus_good night06:36
stupendo44Evil_H: or if you're not using Synaptic, you can use Adept06:36
stupendo44Evil_H: same concept06:36
Evil_Hok sweet thanks06:38
stupendo44Evil_H: np06:40
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duckdownHey all07:08
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duckdownI'm running Dapper 4, and have uncommented the universe, etc. lines from /etc/apt/sources.list but I still can't figure out what I need to apt-get in order to watch/stream .WMV files.  There is no 'w32codecs' package even though i found something to that effect on google.  Can anyone lend me a hand please :-)07:09
Hobbsee!w32codecs07:10
ubotu[w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:10
duckdownThanks Hobbsie07:11
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_phantomhow's it going everyone.07:34
_phantomanyone here?07:35
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renatohello07:39
renatoanybody there?07:40
renatoI'm pretty lost07:40
_phantomyeah.  i'm here07:40
renatohey07:40
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_phantombut it seems that i am the only one tho07:40
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renatogood enough07:40
_phantomi'm still trying to figure out Kubuntu myself, though.07:41
renatoI wonder if you could give me a hand07:41
renatooh07:41
renatoheh he07:41
_phantomwhat's the problem though07:41
_phantommaybe i know enough to help you out.07:41
renatoyou probably do07:41
_phantomwell, i can at least try, heh.07:41
renatowell, I'm completely new to linux altogether07:41
_phantomah.  i see.  ok.  i was in that seat years ago too.07:42
renatoand I can't figure out how to install software07:42
_phantomah.07:42
_phantomand you are using Kubuntu?07:42
renatoyes07:42
_phantomjust making sure here.07:42
renatoit's different to ubuntu too07:42
_phantomok.  well, from what i gather from debian (Kubuntu is built off of debian), there is a tool called apt-get07:42
renatoheard of it07:43
renatohow does one get to it07:43
_phantomnow, Kubuntu, i have found has a gui for it, so you don't have to do it from the command line like i used to.07:43
renatocan't seem to find it though07:44
_phantomlook in your K menu/System.  it's called Adept07:44
renatoadept07:44
renatohold on07:44
_phantomso go to K menu, go up to System, and you should find something in there called Adept.07:44
_phantomit's the package manager.07:44
renatookay found that07:44
_phantomok, you'll need to sudo your password. (it'll ask you for the passwrod.  just type in your user password.07:45
renatonothing though07:45
renatooh, yeah, there it is07:45
_phantomnothing?  like nothing as in what?07:45
_phantomok.07:45
_phantomit takes a minute i take it on your machine.  that's ok though.07:45
renatommhmm07:46
renatoit's there07:46
_phantomup at the top, you'll see fetch updates.07:46
_phantomfetch all updates for your machine and it will update the system files automatically for you.07:46
renatoit did07:46
_phantomwhat program were you looking to install though?07:46
renatothe reason why I installed linux was to be able to use GRASS and R07:47
_phantomhmm.. never heard of that.07:48
_phantomwhat is GRASS supposed to be?07:48
renatoweed07:48
renatokidding07:48
_phantomlol.  nvm,  i found the site for it.07:49
renatoGeographic Resources Analysis Support System07:49
renatok07:49
_phantominteresting program, i must admit.07:49
renatoI am an economics student07:49
renatoand we are implementing an environmental economics program07:50
_phantomone more thing that i haven't figured out is how to add ftp sites to the apt-get lookup, so you may not be able to get grass unless you compile it yourself.07:50
_phantomwell, good luck on that.07:50
renatosounds complicated07:50
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renatohow about on those pages where it says download07:51
renatoisn't it like downloading it and double clicking on it or something?07:51
_phantomyeah, but remember that you must compile it from source so it will run correctly on your computer.07:52
_phantomno.  you must compile the source.07:52
renatoyou lost me there07:52
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frank23Geographic Resources Analysis Support System ?07:52
renatoI know nothing about programming07:52
_phantomwell, ok.  think of it this way.  you get the raw data from the site, download it, and go to command rpmpt.....07:52
_phantomafter that, you go to the place where you downloaded it to, type ./compile and it compiles the program to your system07:53
renatothanks07:53
_phantomafter that you must type 'make' (without the quotes) to make the "executable" file.07:53
renatohmm07:53
_phantomafter that, you must type 'make install' (again, without quotes) to install it onto your system07:54
frank23I guess by ./compile you mean  ./configure07:54
_phantombah, you're right.  my bad.07:54
_phantommy mind's 20 other places right now.07:54
_phantom./configure, make, make install.07:54
frank23renato: thats only for programs that you can't get with adept. And there's alot available there07:54
_phantomthat should install it on your machine if you have everything.07:54
renatocool07:55
_phantomfrank23, GRASS is not available.07:55
frank23_phantom: yes it is07:55
_phantomneither is GIS.07:55
_phantom??07:55
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frank23I don't know about gis but grass is in universe07:55
_phantomi must not have the updated list of FTP sites in yet.07:55
frank23!sources07:55
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:55
frank23You have to enable universe. the instructions are in there07:56
_phantomfrank, you are a lifesaver.  i just installed Kubuntu, so i'm still trying to figure out ADEPT, myself.07:57
_phantomheard that it was a clean OS, so i had to try it out.07:57
frank23gis is there too. a program called qgis seems to be it07:58
renatogis means geographical information system07:58
renatoso any program such as grass would be a gis software07:58
frank23ok.07:58
frank23anyways enable universe (and multiverse while you're at it) and you can use adept to see what is available07:59
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_phantomfrank23, are you running Ubuntu or Kubuntu?07:59
frank23about 18000 packages for me right now07:59
_phantomcause i can't find the synaptic package manager in the listings of K menu.07:59
frank23kubuntu but the only difference is the Desktop environment08:00
frank23that's because synaptic is not in kubuntu by default08:00
_phantomyeah, i kind of figured that.  but where's Synaptic in the K menu?08:00
_phantomoh nice.  ok.  i will apt-get it then08:00
frank23you can install it though. I like synaptic better than adept08:00
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renatoI can't enable universe and multiverse08:02
frank23what is the problem?08:02
renatothe thing's for ubuntu synaptic08:02
renatoand it's not the same08:02
frank23renato: look at the end of the page08:02
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renatooh yeah, felt dumb08:05
renatosorry08:05
renatoand thank you08:05
frank23no problem ;)08:05
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renatoI enabled all the ones that said universe and renamed them to universe multiverse08:13
renatonow it's doing a loooot of thinking08:13
renatois that normal?08:14
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frank23did you click fetch updates after those changes>?08:15
renatoyup08:16
renatoit's done08:16
renatoit's there08:16
frank23what is doing the thinking? adept?08:16
renatoyou rule man08:16
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frank23around this time at night, you can also get the file database that updates automatically. it takes a while and the hard drive is busy08:17
renatookay, I clicked on install and it changed the status of fourteen packages to install, but it's not installing anything08:17
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renatofile database that updates automatically?08:17
frank23you have to click commit to actually make it install08:17
renatookay08:18
frank23yeah its an index of all the files on the drive to make it faster to search for a file08:18
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renatookay, and what's it called?08:18
frank23what?08:19
renatofile database that updates automatically?08:19
renatohow do you mean get, then?08:19
frank23in the console you can run   locate filename to find a file08:19
renatoohh08:19
frank23if you do locate adept   it will give you all the files with adept in the name quickly08:20
frank23!cli08:21
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org08:21
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renatoMmm, what's the best linux beginner's literature you can name?08:22
renatoI want to learn this stuff08:22
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frank23I'm not sure...   for ubuntu at least you should start with the wiki. you can also browse the forums08:23
renatok08:23
frank23for using the console, you could make a search for  bash tutorial  or something like that08:24
frank23bash is the name of the shell08:24
renatothanks08:25
renatoum, where are you from, btw?08:25
frank23this is a pretty good place to start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation08:25
frank23Montreal08:25
frank23you?08:25
renatoGuatemala (not to be confused with guacamole, though)08:26
renatoand what are you doing up this late?08:26
frank23obviously nothing very productive ;)  I was trying to upload games to my cell phone. I haven't been very successful at it08:27
renatowell, it was productive for me that you were up08:29
renatoand for environmental economics in the not so distant future08:30
frank23oh yes08:30
renatoso, it might seem like an unsuccessful cell phone venture, but its transcendent08:31
renatoheh heh08:31
frank23why did you choose kubuntu?08:32
frank23hmm its pretty late in guatemala too. 1h30 am08:33
shawn__oh a pointless thing that people might find interesting I'm a student at a computer college and right now we are learing about linux and my teacher chose to use kubuntu which I allready use personally08:34
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frank23shawn__: that must be a pretty easy course for you if you used it before you teacher chose it08:35
renatoI chose kubuntu by pure chance08:35
renatoand screenshots08:36
shawn__yeah well it's just basics right now to get people comfotable with it... I think he's planning to use fedora and redhat also later on08:36
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renatoI failed at installing debian08:36
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renatoand lost my old windows xp in the process08:37
ChanikaI have a weird problem on one of my friends' comps - media:/ shows the floppy drive, but not any of the cd drives or hard disks...08:37
renatoI tried ubuntu on an old comp that was lying around and brought it back to life08:37
ChanikaI haven't had this problem on any other kubuntu installs, and don't see anything odd, so I'm confused08:37
Chanikaoh, and it shows usb drives fine too08:37
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frank23Chanika: I don't know what to do08:38
frank23sorry08:38
frank23anyways good night everyone08:38
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Chanikaeverything shows up fine in /media but I don't think my friend's parents are smart enough to learn to look there08:39
renatosleep well frank08:39
renatoand thanks again08:39
Chanikahmm. nobody else awake?08:40
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renatome, but I am so clueless08:40
Chanikasheesh... it's like half the internet is in bed right now :P08:40
ChanikaI finally got going on some kopete stuff, but wanted to get permission to commit my work.. and everyone in #kopete is sleeping08:40
Chanikaall my friends are asleep or out partying, too.08:41
renatoI haven't been out partying in a while08:41
renatowent to the movies though08:41
ChanikaI satyed home 'cause I haven't been able to enjoy programming in ages08:41
renatoheh heh08:41
Chanikastupid work getting in the way08:41
renatowhat is your job08:42
renato?08:42
Chanikaprogramming... sort of...08:42
Chanikalately a lot of it is fighting with retarded javascript and weird build systems08:42
Chanikaand watching the PHB piss people off08:42
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renatohmm, PHB being what?08:43
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ChanikaPHB = pointy-haired boss. don't you read dilbert? :)08:49
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renatoheh heh08:49
renatohaven't seen dilbert in ages08:49
Chanikait's online. but only a couple months' worth of archives are kept08:50
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renatowhere are you chatting from?08:50
Chanikaeh?08:50
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renatokoffice or openoffice?08:52
Chanikawhat?08:59
Chanikawhat do office suites have to do with chatting?08:59
Chanikahmm. guess I'll never know08:59
kunjananyone would know why my amarok keeps on crashing?08:59
kunjaneveryonce in a while?09:00
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kunjanany common reasons?09:00
Chanikaamarok is buggy. :)09:00
ChanikaI just restart it once in a while09:00
Chanikaand try not to hit buttons too fast09:00
kunjanits a pain09:01
Chanikayeah09:01
kunjanjust crashes09:01
kunjani love it otherwise09:01
Chanikayou could go report it and see if you can help track down hte bug...09:01
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ChanikaI'm busy with kopete stuff09:01
kunjanyeah will try to do that09:02
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maentyHello, all!09:03
Chanikayay, I think I've found another oscar task I can write a test for :)09:04
maentyCould someone help me with couple questions. I'm planning to install amd64-version of Kubuntu09:04
ttreadmaenty I'm running kubuntu AMD6409:04
maentyttread: I read in ubuntu forum, that there is basically only the basic package of kubuntu to AMD64.09:05
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maentyttread: What I'd like to find, is the application list that is included in Kubuntu09:05
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maentyttread: For me, it would be enough to have openoffice, good browser, media player that can play ogg/mp3/mov/etc, GIMP and some program with functuinality that WinSCP3 has09:06
maentyttread: However, I haven't found a list of programs that is included..09:06
maentyttread: Are you using 5.10 ?09:06
ttreadYou can do almost everything the same as with 32 bit09:06
Chanikahmm. one thing that I think is missing from amd64 is flash...09:06
ttreadmaenty yes I'm using 5.1009:06
Chanikamaenty: basically just a few proprietary things are 32-only right now, afaik09:07
ttreadmaenty openoffice, firefox are both installed by default09:07
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ttreadmaenty gimp is available in the standard repository09:07
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maentyttread: so it can be installed with apt-get for amd64 also?09:08
ttreadmaenty: the only things you may have difficulty with are some of the restricted codecs09:08
ttreadmaenty: also flash plugin is a problem right now also09:08
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ttreadmaenty : yes gimp is available with apt-get along with 1000s of other apps09:09
maentyttread: for i386 flas not a problem?09:09
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ttreadmaenty I don't understand your last question09:09
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eob84does anyone in here play ut2004?09:10
ChanikaI used to...09:10
maentyFor Windows XP, I used to have quite good system for videos / music. Winamp playing all possible sound/music files, and Media Player Classic all possible video files, with the help of Real Alternative and Quicktime Alternative.. can this be achieved with Kubuntu also? One player for all?09:10
eob84yea09:10
eob84called VLC09:10
maentyttread: You mentioned that flash plugin is problem. The problem is only for amd64-version?09:11
ttreadmaenty yeah 32-bit flash works fine09:11
ttreadmaenty on 64-bit the popular win32codecs package doesn't work, so I'm using mplayer which has an alternate set of codecs09:12
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maentyIs the AMD64-version actually running applications so much faster, that it's worthy of missing some applications?09:12
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ttreadmaenty I haven't tested it myself but I've heard others say that there is a noticable speed boost09:13
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gloHi I need help and I know this is a deb based distro. I'm trying to setup a network card that was working on kernel 2.4 but now it doesn't activate during with with 2.6.8.09:13
maentyHow about installing the dapper-version?09:13
ttreadmaenty I can currently play mp3, ogg, avi, mpg09:13
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maentyttread: That's almost all that I need.. I rarely need to play any quicktime or realmedia files09:14
gloI know deb has dpkg-reconfigure but I don't know the specific command for seting up the net card09:14
ttreadbut have problems with .ram and .wmv09:14
glottread, get the codecs on mplayers website09:15
glothe all package09:15
maentyhmm.. .wmv not working might become a problem09:15
ttreadok thanks glo, I'll look into that .. I thought it came with all the codecs already09:15
glonope just the basic09:15
maentycan't the mplayer with codecs be isntalled with apt-get?09:15
gloyes the base ones09:16
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ttreadI ended up compiling mplayer and it's working fine09:16
skypaanyone aware if the weird vfat sync behaviour is fixed in kernel >2.6.12?09:16
ronaldson40hi09:17
Chanikahmm. what package(s) will get kaffeine to show most videos?09:17
ronaldson40You can use VLC09:17
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Chanikaskypa: what weird behaviour?09:17
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skypaplug a usb stick in, mount it sync and watch it copy with about 30kb/s09:18
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ronaldson40hi09:18
Chanikahmm. never used vlc before.09:18
kingpombaim downloading kubuntu now, my first time using linux :)09:18
skypamount it async and you have to sync it manually before unmounting, plus progress bars are faulty since it's buffered way faster than actually copied09:18
ttreadgood for you kingpomba09:18
skypano one noticed that before? :/09:19
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kingpombahow is kubuntu for games anyway09:19
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ronaldson40I have a HP Colour Laserjet 2600n printer that I would like to print to in both colour not only black09:19
glocan anyone help me figure out why my netcard isn't activiating at bootup?09:19
ChanikaI'm basically trying to find the minimum number of packages to go from a near-default system to one that can play.. let's see... avi files. for a friend that no longer has internet, so I'll have to copy the packages manually09:19
ttreadglo, is it a laptop or desktop?09:20
ronaldson40Chanika : VLC plays over 100 formats09:20
glodesktop09:20
maentyronaldson40: by default? or you need to download lot's of codecs?09:20
Chanikaronaldson40: will it not pull in a lot of other stuff?09:20
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gloDebian 3.1. It activates with kernel 2.4 but not with 2.6.8.09:20
gloronaldson40: vlc rocks09:20
ttreadglo try lspci to see what drivers you have loaded09:20
glook09:21
ChanikaThe following extra packages will be installed:09:21
Chanika  liba52-0.7.4 libaa1 libdvbpsi3 libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common liblircclient0 libmpeg2-4 libtar09:21
Chanika  libwxgtk2.4-1 wxvlc09:21
ronaldson40yah VLC Sure does09:21
Chanika0 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded09:21
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Chanikahrm. I was hoping for less09:21
gloI see the card driver in there09:21
maentydoes VLC come with Kubuntu by default?09:21
kingpomba1 Day 6 Hours untill kubuntu is finished downloading :)09:21
maentyand does VLC work with amd64?09:21
maentykingpomba: which version are you downloading?09:22
Chanikaaand mplaywer is worse. 1909:22
ttreadglo you can type sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart09:22
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ttreadmaenty, no09:22
ttreadmaenty, vlc is in the repositories for 64 bit but I haven't tried it09:22
maentyttread: no, doesn't come by default or no, does not work with amd64? (or both?)09:22
maentyhmm, roger09:22
glottread: if I use dhclient without adding something like eth0, it starts up09:23
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gloI don't get it. With adding eth0, I get something ending with sleeping09:23
ttreadglo, is your card being assigned to something other than eth0?  what does ifconfig say?09:23
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glolet me see09:24
kingpombamaenty: the latest one i guess09:24
kingpombait's a torrent09:24
glohow would I tell?09:24
ttreadglo, type ifconfig09:25
ronaldson40is there a Print server application so that i can print on HP Laserjet 2600n ( Only windows drivers available) which can be installed on my other Windows laptop so that I can print from Kubuntu09:25
kingpombamaenty: 5.10 DVD version09:25
maentykingpomba: does it say 5.10?09:25
maentykingpomba: ok09:25
gloI did09:25
maentykingpomba: I'm also planning to install it, using Windows XP now09:25
maentykingpomba: But I'm still not sure which one should I get.. amd64 or i386 version09:26
ttreadglo, it will list your interfaces, i.e. lo, eth0, eth1, etc09:26
kingpombawell what do you have09:26
ronaldson40When u install Kubuntu make sure u get the KDE 3.5 upgrade09:26
kingpombaa amd 64 bit processor or a i386 version09:26
maentykingpomba: Well, I have 64bit AMD processor, but I'm wondering here because all programs don't yet work in 64-bit09:27
maentyronaldson40: how to get it?09:27
kingpombaim just downloading it to try out linux anyway09:27
ronaldson40wait a sec..09:27
maentyronaldson40: Does it come automatically if I just run some apt-get update / apt-get upgrade?09:27
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gloyes it did, what exactly do I look for?09:28
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ttreadmaenty, there are instructions on the wiki to get kde 3.509:28
maentykingpomba: And I'm planning to make Linux as my only OS, that's why I'd need to have all necessary programs working09:28
ronaldson40http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php09:29
ronaldson40chek this link for upgrade instrucions09:29
maentyttread: But I think that's for Ubuntu09:29
ttreadglo, look for what interfaces it lists.  If you're on the internet it should show eth0 or something similar along with an ip address and some statistics09:29
ronaldson40to KDE 3.5.109:29
kingpombaim just thinking wether it's worth my time now09:29
ttreadmaenty there are instructions to upgrade from the kde 3.4 that comes with kubuntu 5.1009:29
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kingpombai mean windblows can do basicly everything i need09:30
maentyronaldson40: thanks09:30
CaptainbrailleHow do I find the cdrom group and get permission to read?09:30
ttreadmaenty see http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php09:31
kingpombai might dual boot linux and winblows09:31
kingpombakubuntu has a partrition tool right?09:31
maentykingpomba: I'm going to doo that too first09:31
glothis appears on eth3 inet addr:67.82.143.207  Bcast:255.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.252.009:32
kingpombaim just keeping windows incase i need it or wnat to use it or screw something up09:32
maentyoh.. how about file system btw. Can I read NTFS-files from Kubuntu?09:32
kingpombajust something to fall back on too rather than installing it and relizing i need it again and waste 200 bucks09:32
ttreadok glo that tells you that your card is being assigned as eth3 for some reason09:33
kingpombayeah my hard drive is ntfs09:33
gloHmm ok odd09:33
maentykingpomba: Why it costs 200 bucks if you re-install Windows?09:33
maentyttread: thanks09:33
glodo you know the command for reconfiguring the network?09:34
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ttreadglo, sorry I don't know that detail, try google09:34
maentyI used to have Red Hat and Windows in 2002.. back then I had to change from NTFS to FAT to make it work with linux09:34
gloI have been09:34
glothanks though09:34
ttreadha ha09:34
gloI think I know how to fix it now, thanks for the lessons09:35
ttreadmaenty, linux, including ubuntu/kubuntu can read NTFS but cannot write to it09:35
maentyttread: oh.. ok, that's good09:35
glono one should use ntfs09:36
kingpombamaenty: i lost my windows disc09:36
maentykingpomba: Lost? How?09:36
gloin the trash09:36
kingpombayeah09:36
maenty:)09:36
ttreadlol09:36
kingpombai got this computer back when i was really really new to computers09:37
kingpombai thought since windows was install i did'ent need it09:37
kingpombai was painfully wrong09:37
maentykingpomba: You don't need to go back to windows09:38
maentykingpomba: just stig with Linux.. Most of the things you did in Windows you can do in Linux anyway, and the rest you can get used to live without09:38
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brydennweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee09:39
gloyuck09:39
brydennhehe well just buzzin really09:39
brydenni can still type right09:39
glokingpomba: I have been more productive on linux than I ever was on windows. give it time09:40
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CaptainbrailleHow do you get read permissions for /dev/cdrom?09:42
kingpombaim keeping windows09:42
kingpombano one can convince me otherwise09:42
kingpombacan you have diffrent partritions then09:42
maentyI hope it is possible to slowly increase the size of linux partition09:42
kingpombalike my main drive is nTFS09:43
maentyI only have 30GB free out of 200GB, and I want to move most of the files to the linux partition09:43
kingpombaNTFS*09:43
gloCaptainbraille: chown 777 /dev/cdrom09:43
kingpombakubuntu has a partrition tool right09:43
maentyI hope so09:43
kingpombaother wise i've wasted all my time09:44
CaptainbrailleHi glo, yeah, just type that in a Konsole?09:44
Chanikayeah09:44
ChanikaCaptainbraille: what glo said is not the best way09:44
glonope but it works09:44
CaptainbrailleWhat is the best way Chanika?09:44
ChanikaCaptainbraille: if you want a user to have access to the cdrom, they should probably be added to the cdrom group09:44
gloshould have thought of that09:45
CaptainbrailleAdd to the cdrom group? How do I do that?09:45
Chanikago into hte user manager thingy09:45
glokuser09:45
gloas root09:45
CaptainbrailleHow do I find the cdrom group?09:45
ChanikaI'm in gentoo right now so I can't be exact :)09:45
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Chanikawhen you go to edit a user, one of the tabs will have a list of the groups they're in09:46
ttreadkingpomba see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo09:46
maentythaks ttread, that was good for me too :)09:46
CaptainbrailleLet me check this out, thanks =)09:46
glottread: thanks I fixed it09:46
glogoing to reboot to test it. BBIAB09:46
ttreadyw maenty09:46
ttreadyw glo09:47
glo:)09:47
Chanikaaww. the kubuntu comp I was lurking on shut down...09:47
ttreadmaenty, kingpomba, note that you will need to defrag first09:47
ttreadalso run chkdsk -f to fix any bad sectors09:47
ttreadbefore you try resizing the partition09:47
Chanikattread: really? ntfsresize on knoppix didn'te require any defrag09:48
Captainbrailledoes group number matter for the cdrom?09:48
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ChanikaCaptainbraille: number? you shouldn't be looking at numbers09:48
ttreadok Chanika I did mine with QtParted.  I don't know ntfsresize09:48
ChanikaCaptainbraille: just make sure the user is in the same group as /dev/hdc (or whatever your cdrom device points to)09:49
Chanikattread: ah. :) ntfsresize was nice, I'd nevre used it before but everything went smoothly09:49
kingpombattread: Rgr09:50
ttreadgood to know Chanika, thanks09:50
CaptainbrailleChanika: I don't have group dev/hdc how do I get that?09:50
ChanikaCaptainbraille: not group, device...09:50
ChanikaCaptainbraille: go to a console and type this: ls -l /dev/cdrom09:51
Chanikathen tell me what it says09:51
CaptainbrailleChanika: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2006-03-03 23:13 /dev/cdrom -> hdc09:51
Chanikaok, now this: ls -l /dev/hdc09:51
CaptainbrailleChanika: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2006-03-03 23:13 /dev/hdc09:52
Chanikagood, I was right, your users need to be in the "cdrom" group :)09:52
maentyOnly way to make a shared partition for Windows and Linux (a partition which both can read/write) is to make a fat16 -partition?09:52
CaptainbrailleOkay =) Good, Chanika, how do I do that? =(09:53
maentyor fat32?09:53
Chanikamaenty: pretty much. unless you get ext drivers for windows09:53
ChanikaCaptainbraille: like I said before, with the user manager thing...09:53
CaptainbrailleI'm in KUser right now, thats what I'm in =\09:54
kingpombacan i have it like this Windows- NTFS , Backup windows partition FAT32 ( i think 32 anyway ) and New linux partition Fat3209:54
Chanikaok, so pick a user to edit...09:54
Captainbrailleokay, I have my user and I clicked edit09:54
Chanikakingpomba: no, linux will want ext2 or ext3 or reiserfs09:55
kingpombaext2.... never heard of it09:55
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kingpombaor any of the other listed for that matter09:55
kingpombabut kubuntu has a tool that will take care of that right?09:56
Chanikashould do, yeah09:57
_skamananybody can indicate me a good launcher?09:57
maentykingpomba: I'll do ext3 for linux installation, and maybe fat32 for file storage09:57
maentykingpomba: and then NTFS for Windows09:57
Chanikapersonally I don't much like the tool in the kubuntu installer, I set up my partitions from knoppix beforehand. but I've done this stuff a zilion times09:57
kingpombajust out of intrest can linux do something that windows can't09:57
kingpombathe windows obviously exists09:58
Chanikakingpomba: you mean like not ever getting viruses? :)09:58
maentydoes knoppix have qtparted ?09:58
Chanikanevre having spyware?09:58
kingpombai know what im doing chanika09:58
kingpombahav'ent got a virus or spyware in years09:58
maentyI have knoppix somewhere.. maybe I could use that first to resize the NTFS09:58
kingpombai got SLAX somewhere09:58
Chanikagiving you loads of pretty eye candy right out of the box... way more configuration...09:58
Chanikabash...09:58
ttreadwith LInux you can run your own webserver and development system without spending 1000s of dollars09:59
Chanikaheh, that too09:59
ronaldson40where do i find the fstab09:59
ronaldson40config file09:59
Chanikaronaldson40: /etc/fstab09:59
kingpombadon't know where  ... i put my linux - slax disc asside cause my usb keyboard did'ent work to change the boot order09:59
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kingpombaim going to buy a really cheap ps2 keyboard09:59
ttreadwith Linux you can change your desktop among a half-dozen choices ... like to see Windows do that10:00
ChanikaI hate using windows these days. it feels so *limited*10:00
maentyttread: You prefer KDE?10:00
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ronaldson40k10:00
ChanikaI go to do some trivial little thing and then remember 0 no, windows doesn't do that...10:00
ttreadYep Chanika I hate when I have to use windblows10:00
maentybtw can anyone say, why KDE is better than Gnome? I've never used Gnome before, but I used KDE back in 200210:00
Chanikaeven with cygwin it's a hassle.10:00
Chanikawell, cygwin itself is a hassle...10:00
ttreadmaenty I like both Gnome and KDE, I guess I prefer KDE10:01
skypa^coffeeanyone else tried fireing up katapult while using windows? ^^10:01
Chanikamaenty: lately gnome seems to be horribly cutting back features and configurability in the name of usability, from what I've heard10:01
Chanikabut I haven't actually used it in ages10:01
ChanikaI've always preferred kde. so convenient and pretty.10:01
kingpombaonly got like 28 gig free10:02
kingpombahow much will linux need10:02
maentykingpomba: same here :) 28 gig free here10:02
Chanikakingpomba: 3gig for a basic install, probably10:02
maentykingpomba: I heard you need at least 10gig for the linux isntallation10:02
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maentykingpomba: or 10gig is recommended10:02
Chanikakingpomba: of course you'll want more for it to actually be fun10:03
maentykingpomba: +500MB for swap10:03
ttreadit depends on how many apps you install10:03
Chanikaiirc my bf's comp has a 3gig linux partition right now. he was really, really short on disk space...10:03
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kingpombamost im probally willing to give up is 15 gig10:03
kingpombaand thats pushing it10:03
Chanikakingpomba: I've nevre needed more than that, so long as I don't go on an anime-downloading spree10:04
kingpombaif i go on a anime downloading spree ill probally do it on windows10:04
kingpombai was also thinking of trying the younger distros like mephis10:04
maentyIs there any way to convert partition from one format to other, without making it empty?10:05
kingpombaprobally not10:05
ttreadmaenty, not that I know of10:05
kingpombai always thought it would wipe the data clean10:05
maentyI guess I just have to delete lot's of stuff, so I don't have to do the resizing 10 times10:05
kingpombaback up all your data then do it10:05
maentykingpomba: I have 170 gigs of stuff, and only CDRW-drive10:07
kingpomba:/10:07
kingpombai got a dvd drive but still you would need alot of discs to back that up10:07
maentykingpomba: However, if I go thru all the stuff, I might be able to delete at least 20 gigs of unnecessary, which still leaves 150gigs of stuff10:07
kingpombayou would neeed  36.1702128 4.7 gb dvds10:08
maentyhow many 700MB cds? :)10:09
kingpomba242.85714310:09
maentythat's lots of cds10:10
kingpombayes10:10
maentyI guess I just have to do it with risk10:10
kingpombawould be easier to buy a external drive at that point10:10
maentyI'll use knoppix and try to see whether it has any good partition programs10:10
maentyand burn 650mb of the most important stuff to CDRW10:11
DevGetI have a avi movie and a subtitle file, and I want to burn it to cd so that I can play it on a dvd-player, how to do that?10:11
kingpombayou could make it a vcd or svcd i guess10:12
ttreadDevGet, take a look at dvdstyler10:12
kingpombaif you figure out a way to convert them10:12
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franticis there a firewall installed by default with 5.10?10:14
franticiptables?10:14
Chanikanah10:14
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franticyou know if ipfw is supported on linux?10:14
kingpombacan kubuntu play dvds10:14
ttreadfrantic, iptables is there but it's not configured to filter anything10:14
Chanikakingpomba: yes, when you install the right stuff10:14
kingpombalol dos'ent anything i want come pre installed10:15
kingpombasigh10:15
franticthanks ttread, I'm not familiar with the syntax of iptables, would it be easy to add a rule blocking access to port 80 except for a specific ip range?10:15
ttreadfrantic, iptables has a learning curve.  There are some GUI tools for configuring it but I haven't tried them10:16
franticdo you know if i can load ipfw?10:16
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ttreadfrantic, ipfwadm is in the universe repository10:17
mralexsirkingpomba - linux was never designed to play films by default - see ubuntuguide.org for full write up10:17
Chanikakingpomba: it's not like it's hard to install stuff :)10:18
kingpombai heard linux uses .rpms or something to install stuff10:19
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franticty ttread10:19
Chanikareal distros do not use RPM :P10:19
maentykingpomba: apt-get10:19
ttreadfrantic, I'm not sure10:19
DevGetdvdstyler was nice10:19
DevGetbut first I need to convert to mpeg10:19
Chanikakingpomba: debian-based distros use apt-get. it pretty much does everything for you10:19
maentykingpomba: RPMs are for Red Hat10:19
kingpombaoh ok10:19
Chanikakingpomba: just go into the package manager gui, search for the package you want, click the install button, preview the changes then commit them :)10:20
mralexsiranyone know about cubepanel?10:21
kingpombaim going to need a dvd player program , a im program (msn,irc) , do any of my windows games work without wine? wow , et , source games , and probally something to code c++ and python in10:21
maentykingpomba: vlc plays DVDs http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/graphics/vlc10:21
ttreadDevGet, mplayer/mencoder can convert .avi -> .mpg, however the process is a little complicated10:21
Chanikakingpomba: kubuntu has kopete for IM. there are various proggies for playing videos, music, etc. games could take some effort though10:22
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maentyhow to install vlc to Kubuntu? Just typing apt-get install vlc ?10:22
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mralexsirkingpomba - GAIM for IM10:22
Chanikamaenty: sure10:23
ttreadkingpomba, you should have no trouble with any of that except the games10:23
maentydoes Kubuntu come with some Jabber client?10:23
Chanikamaenty: it can also be done from the gui if you like, but when you already know the name, typing's often faster :)10:23
Chanikamaenty: kopete10:23
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kingpombai heard quake games work on linux10:24
Chanikakingpomba: I can't remember about that... but I have played ut, and have nwn installed right now10:24
Chanikaand there are plenty of fun linux games out there10:24
maentyChanika: perfect. Thanks10:24
kingpombayeah like arcade games :/10:25
ttreadmaenty, Kopete and Gaim both handle Jabber10:25
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kingpombaim a gamer...so thats one of the reasons im keeping windows10:25
Chanikaspeaking of kopete, I must get back to staring at aim packets...10:25
maentykingpomba: same here10:26
Chanikakingpomba: yah, games are still an issue. I've heard cedega is pretty good, but it's been a while since I tried it myself10:26
maentykingpomba: but luckily best games also work in Linux (freeciv, old dos games (dosbox) etc10:26
ronaldson40can i put Gaim in Kubuntu10:26
Chanikaand my games are mostly obscure ones that nobody got working. alothough one has a native linux port, yay :)10:26
maentyAnd I guess there is Commondore 64-emulator and Amiga-emulator also for linux10:26
crimsunronaldson40: sure10:26
ronaldson40how do i do that10:27
ronaldson40Its a RPM file10:27
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kingpomba18% done10:27
Chanikaronaldson40: delete the rpm, and install it from apt-get10:27
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maentyIs there amiga-emulator, dosbox, and C64-emulator installable from apt-get?10:27
Chanikamaenty: dosbox certainly10:28
Chanikait prolly has the others too, but I haven't looked10:28
maentyIs there some website that I can see list of programs that I can install with apt-get?10:28
crimsunvice -> c6410:28
maentyfor amd64-version, the dosbox also has to be amd64-version to work?10:28
kingpombaHoary is the right one , right?10:28
Chanikawell, debian had a site for that, and kubuntu has most of the same stuff as debian...10:28
ttreadmaenty, all of them are there10:29
crimsunuae -> amiga10:29
Chanikamaenty: why not just install it and see? :)10:29
crimsunhttp://packages.ubuntu.com10:29
crimsunmay I also introduce you to apt-cache search?10:29
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maentyChanika: Because I'm still in the middle of decision, whether to use amd64 version or not..10:29
Chanikaahh.10:29
maentyChanika: Trying to determine if it will cause too many problems.. Would everything be easier if I just install i386-version10:29
crimsunsome things would be easier, yes10:30
ronaldson40k10:30
maentycrimsun: it is a search I can do in the Linux to look for apt-packets?10:30
crimsunmaenty: apt-cache search, yes10:30
ttreadmaenty, if you're new to linux I'd suggest the 32-bit version, you will have less complications10:30
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crimsunmaenty: I gave you the URL for the Web front end10:30
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maentyttread: I used to have linux as my only OS in 2002. One day I just decided I won't use Windows anymore, installed Red Hat as my only operating system.. Never used Linux before :)10:31
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maentyttread: So I learnt something during that half a year Linux was my only OS. Had lot's of problems installing some program, because of dependencies10:31
ronaldson40crimsun i am doin it throu adept10:32
maentycrimsun: thanks, I opened it now10:32
Chanikamaenty: ah yes, dependency hell...10:32
ttreadmaenty, cool.   I started on RH8 myself10:32
Chanikathat's why I don't use rpm distros10:32
ronaldson40What is Katapult for??10:32
ronaldson40It is just sitting on my taskbar10:32
kingpombawhat would you say was the best distro after kubuntu10:33
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maentyHaving my previous my experience, I think I'll really like this apt-get10:34
maentyIs it so, that if I install vlc with apt-get install vlc, it will get all necessary packets to make it work?10:34
maentyAnd if I have amd64, it will automatically get amd64-version of the vlc and all other necessary packets to make it work?10:34
maentykingpomba: Ubuntu? ;)10:35
ttreadmaenty, yes that's the way it works.10:35
kingpomba... you can't say ubuntu10:35
mralexsirI've got two installs on the go10:35
mralexsirKbuntu on my laptop for the wireless capability10:35
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mralexsirand Fedora Core 3 on a  desktop I'm hoping to turn into a web server10:36
maentykingpomba: When I made decision some weeks ago to start using Linux again, I first had 6 choises: Gentoo, Debian, SUSE, Ubuntu and Fedora Core.. then I started asking and searching info about them10:36
ronaldson40Fedora would be the next best distro10:36
maentykingpomba: in the end, my choices where SUSE and Kubuntu10:36
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ttread"Best" really depends on what the intended use is10:36
maentykingpomba: Mandriva was also in the list10:37
Tonio_lo10:37
kingpombayeah i was choosing between10:37
kingpombaMandrivia , Suse , Mehpis , Kubuntu10:37
Chanikagentoo rocks :)10:37
maentykingpomba: I based my choices in the fact that I've been Windows user for a long time and I don't want to get into dependency-hell that I got in before10:38
Chanikabut it's not exactly a newbie distro10:38
maentyYap that's what I've heard too. For very experienced user, Gentoo might be the best10:38
ChanikaI use gentoo for myself, and give kubuntu to friends10:39
kingpombawhats the advantage of gentoo10:39
Chanikakingpomba: lots and lots of control10:39
maentykingpomba: Gentoo apparently makes all the stuff from sources to fit exactly to your PC, while installing10:39
maentykingpomba: Or at least most of the stuff10:40
Chanikaplus a bit of extra speed, at the expense of compiling everything from source10:40
ronaldson40Anyway wats so different abt SUSE10:40
ttreadwith Gentoo you configure everything yourself and learn a lot in the process10:40
Chanikasuse is owned by novell, for one10:40
maentySUSE is bought by Novell10:40
maentyHowever, they do have the opensuse nowadays10:40
ronaldson40Why is SUSE more userfriendly?10:41
kingpombait is10:41
kingpomba...10:41
ttreadsuse is nice, very complete, kind of bloated though10:41
Chanikaronaldson40: novell puts effort into polishing it?10:41
ronaldson40can i see some screenshots of SUSE10:42
kingpombagoogle is your friend10:42
ronaldson40k10:42
Chanikaronaldson40: there are plenty of them online10:42
maentyronaldson40: I guess SUSE can look like anything, like any other distro too10:42
Chanikamaenty: heh, good point :)10:43
mralexsirChanging the subject10:43
Chanikaalthough I think it uses gnome by default10:43
mralexsirKDE or GNOME?10:43
mralexsirI've got one machine running 1 and this one running KDE10:43
Chanikamralexsir: well, this is *K*ubuntu10:43
mralexsirI only move to *K*ubuntu (:P) because I didnt like ht brown theme of Ubuntu10:43
mralexsirand it was too much like hard work to change it all10:44
maentymralexsir:  go to #ubuntu and ask why GNOME is better ? :)10:44
Chanikakde makes it nice and easy to prettify things :)10:44
mralexsirI prefer it cos its got the start button in the right place10:44
ronaldson40nowdays when i search on google, i get a "403 Forbidden" and I need to enter the confirmation code... does anyone get that10:44
maentymralexsir: take GNOME if you want it simple, and KDE if you want to have more configurability10:44
mralexsirI know thats not the attitude10:44
mralexsiryeah I did feel kinda wrapped up in gnome too10:45
mralexsirgoddam slowass downloads10:45
maentywhen I first install Kubuntu, should I do "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" ?10:46
mralexsirupgrade10:46
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maentyor even "apt-get dist-upgrade" or something?10:46
ttreadmaenty, update then upgrade10:46
maentyttread: It will update all of the programs?10:47
mralexsirI thought upgrade did update as part of it?10:47
mralexsirupdate makes sure you've got the full package lists10:48
mralexsiror so I though10:48
ttreadmralexsir, I have seen it written to do both10:48
mralexsirt10:48
mralexsirI was going to say - I ran upgrade and it update and installed about 500+ apps10:48
Chanikamaenty: or you can go into the pakage manager (adept?) and click buttons to upgrade :)10:49
ttreadmaenty, it will update all the programs, yes, although with ubuntu/kubuntu the standard repositories only upgrade for security patches10:49
Chanikamaenty: oh yeah, you'll probably want the universe and multiverse sources10:49
luisitomralexsir: I have done a brown Color Scheme in Kubuntu that looks much more better than the ubuntu human.10:49
kingpombaare we breezy or hoary i keep forggeting10:50
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maentyChanika: what are those?10:50
ttreadbreezy here10:51
Chanikamaenty: repositories with more stuff you'll probably want. iirc they have stuff like mp3 and flash10:51
luisitoin fact... http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3573310:51
kingpombawait what is the latest version of kubuntu called10:51
kingpombabreezy?10:51
Chanikadapper drake, I think...10:52
Chanikathat one is still unstable, right?10:52
ttreadthe latest stable release is breezy10:52
kingpombaversion 5.1010:52
Chanikaand breezy is stable10:52
ttreadbreezy = 5.1010:52
kingpombaoh ok10:52
maentyDo I need to change sources if I install amd64-version?10:53
maentyI just read in other channel that Kubuntu has stuff like GAIM, GIMP, nautilus (scp program) in default package.. so it means those should be included in amd64-version10:54
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Heinkelgood morning :)10:54
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ttreadmaenty, Ubuntu has all those programs.  Kubuntu has parallel apps that do same functions10:55
Chanikamaenty: why not just try it? :) you can always delete stuff later if it doesn't work out10:55
Heinkelcan someone recommend a program for restructuring ntfs partitions on a harddisk?10:56
ttreadmaenty, the repositories are configured for AMD 64 and all the same apps are there.  Actually I don't know how it knows to get the 64-bit versions because I can't see any difference in the configuration.  Anyway, all the apps work10:56
Heinkeli need to physically move data so I can make a new partition decent size10:56
Chanikantfsresize?10:56
maentyttread: okay. I think i'll get the amd64-version10:56
Heinkelcan i run that from the kubuntu 5.10 live cd?10:57
maentyttread: with VLC, it should be possible to play .wmv and quicktime movies too10:57
maentyttread: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/vlc10:57
Heinkelcan i run ntfsresize from the kubuntu 5.10 live cd?10:57
ttreadmaenty, I haven't tried VLC yet but intend to10:57
ChanikaHeinkel: dunno. try it.10:57
ChanikaHeinkel: I know it's on knoppix10:58
Heinkelah, i am going to try that then10:58
maentyttread: How about the codecs? The famous win32codecs do not work with amd64, so probably vlc won't play anything..10:58
Heinkeli have knoppix 4 lying around here10:58
Heinkelsomewhere *looks at piles of shit on dekstop*10:58
ttreadmaenty, don't know the answer to that question10:58
Heinkelthank you for advice, Chanika10:59
Chanika:)10:59
kingpombaany decent games for linux10:59
ttreadkingpomba, I know people who have run Doom/Quake on Linux and it runs well11:00
Chanikakingpomba: google is your friend11:00
Chanikathere are various linux gaming sites I've forgotten the names of11:00
kingpombai have tryed google11:00
maentySo basically, when I use Kubuntu, I don't need to download / install any programs separatedly, or compile, because I can get most of the stuff using apt-get?11:01
ttreadmaenty, most stuff, yes11:02
mralexsirOpen Office or KOffice?11:03
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kingpombai've only used open office11:04
mralexsiryeah me too11:04
kingpombai like it's graphics and presentation program11:04
mralexsirI was just reading the banner that says KOffice 1.5 now out11:04
ttreadlate, I'm going to bed... nite all11:04
Chanikametoo11:04
mralexsirwhere are you based?11:04
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mralexsirIr's 1000 here :D11:04
SleepingChaniit's 2am11:04
ttread02:05 here11:04
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mralexsirrofl :D11:05
kingpomba9:05pm/21:0411:05
kingpombaim aussie11:06
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maenty12:10 here11:06
kingpombaman it's so hot11:06
kingpombai hate summer11:07
kingpombai got sun burnt on my neck the other day because i forgot to put sunscreen there11:07
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ronaldson40How do i change my log in screen11:08
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maentyroot? :)11:08
maentysome channels kick you out for that11:08
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ronaldson40so is it possible to change my login screen in kubuntu11:10
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kingpombayes ronald11:13
ronaldson40how?11:13
kingpombahttp://www.kde-look.org/ check it out there11:13
maentyBy the way, don't apt-get update + apt-get upgrade automatically update the KDE also to KDE 3.5.1?11:13
kingpombasplash screen or something11:14
ronaldson40k11:14
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pulveri'm having problem with the splash image on my 1280x800 display.. copied Background-1280x800 to Background.jpg, changed BaseResolution in Theme.rc to 1280x800, cleared ksplash cache, but when testing it doesn't scale right, height is like 80% and a big black border below =/ any ideas?11:17
jpatrickpulver: known bug11:17
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pulverjpatrick: it is? is there a fix?11:17
jpatrickno11:17
rysiek|plhi there guys11:17
pulverjpatrick: ok thanks for the info :)11:18
jpatrickwe discussed it for ages in the devel channel11:18
pulveroh ok11:18
rysiek|pljpatrick: what have you been discussing?11:18
jpatrickbug in ksplash-engine-moodin with backgrounds11:18
rysiek|plah11:19
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rysiek|pldoes anybody have an idea how to make the GIMP make an indexed palette, where certain indexes are set-up by the user, and the rest is generated ("generate best")?11:21
rysiek|pltrying to make USplash fit into my graphical theme, and need to set the font colours right ;)11:22
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rysiek|planybody? man, where *do* those usplash-devs lurk?..11:26
maentydoes GIMP work in KDE?11:27
rysiek|plmaenty: yep, like a charm11:27
rysiek|plit uses Gtk2, so it works everywhere, where Gtk2 works11:27
jpatrickmaenty: Krita++11:27
maentyrysiek|pl: Did it come with kubuntu by default?11:27
jpatrickmaenty: no11:27
maentyjpatrick: Krita is the main graphics editor in KDE?11:28
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maentyjpatrick: is it as good as GIMP? same functionality?11:28
dumkopfYeah, Krita is the graphics editing package that comes with Kubuntu11:28
jpatrickNo, it's part of KOffice and is default in Kubuntu11:28
maentyI'm currently using GIMP in windows, and I'd like to get the same or at least program with same functionality in Kubuntu11:29
dumkopfjust apt-get install gimp, then11:29
jpatrickKrita's like Photoshop11:29
dumkopfthere's no reason you can't have it11:29
maentyroger that, dumkopf11:30
maentyI might try the Krita first11:30
maentyif Krita offers me everything I need, I might not install GIMP at all11:30
dumkopfall comes down to personal preference, i suppose11:31
jpatrickas always11:31
dumkopfboth packages are comparable in power and usability, it's just their organization and presentation that is different11:31
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Enlight_uniHi! Guys, Its my first use of kubuntu (and any distro using apt-get or a front-end) and I was wondering wich package do the acx_pci driver belong to?11:33
mdkehi. Can somebody tell me how to install kubuntu on dapper at the moment. kubuntu-desktop is uninstallable11:33
dumkopfmdke: the kubuntu dapper install CD, perhaps?11:33
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mdkedumkopf, there must be another way11:34
dumkopfmdke: or are you interested in using KDE as your desktop on a running vanilla Ubuntu install?11:34
jpatrickcan you pastebin the problem?11:34
mdkejpatrick, no need:   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: openoffice.org2-kde11:34
rysiek|plEnlight_uni: sudo apt-cache search acx_pci :)11:34
mdkedumkopf, i don't know about vanilla, but yes, on an ubuntu install11:34
jpatrickargg they updated the openoffice packages...11:35
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mdkejpatrick, i'm sure there is a way round this, but I'm not so good with dpkg/apt11:35
dumkopfmdke: Add your extra repos, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, and then try?11:35
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mdkedumkopf, which extra repos?11:35
zulqarhi11:35
dumkopfmdke: multiverse and backports11:35
rysiek|plhello11:35
noteventime'ello11:35
mdkedumkopf, kubuntu is in Main though...11:35
Kamping_Kaiserdumkopf: shouldnt need to11:35
zulqaris there real way to see vcd cd :(11:35
zulqar?11:35
jpatrickdumkopf: he's on Dapper there are no backports11:36
rysiek|pl!restricted11:36
ubotuhmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats11:36
noteventimerysiek|pl: Thanks again for yesterday :)11:36
nxv_hi, a friend showed me xgl on his gentoo machine. will xgl be in the dapper release? is there an easy way to activate it at the moment?11:36
zulqari download win32 code from website11:36
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Enlight_unirysiek|pl: well I don't know if it does the same thing but Adept's filter is unable to find anything acx related11:36
Kamping_Kaisermdke: try just installing openoffice.org2-KDE and see what the error is11:36
rysiek|plnoteventime: no problem :) fighting hard with usplash now11:36
Kamping_Kaisertrack the problem to it's source11:36
zulqarand place into /usr/lib/win3211:36
noteventimenxv_: Yes, Xgl is quite easy11:36
Kamping_Kaisernxv_: it will not be in dapper though11:36
noteventimenxv_: And availible on dapper drake repositrys11:36
jpatrickmdke: apt-get install kde11:36
zulqarbut still kaffine say plugin not found11:37
zulqar?11:37
mdkeKamping_Kaiser, it is removing most of openoffice11:37
dumkopfjpatrick: yar.  i add them as a reflex, i guess.11:37
rysiek|plzulqar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:37
noteventimeDapper has a backports repa :O11:37
rysiek|plthat should help you11:37
Enlight_unirysiek|pl: yep, no answer!11:37
jpatrickmdke: and kubuntu-default-settings11:37
mdkejpatrick, there is no "kde" package11:37
noteventimekubuntu-desktop11:37
dumkopfmdke: kubuntu-desktop11:37
rysiek|plEnlight_uni: hmmm... what is this acx_pci anyway?11:37
Kamping_Kaisermdke: i recal seeming something about thta on the list (Kubuntu user upgrading), IIRC there was supposed to be a fixed package making itswasy through the system11:37
mdkedumkopf, that's where we started from. it is uninstallable!11:37
rysiek|plit might not be in the repos11:37
noteventimerysiek|pl: I've gotten a blue screen with uslash11:37
Kamping_Kaisermdke: IIRC there was a binary pacakge repo. give me a minute or 5 to look11:38
mdkegrumph11:38
dumkopfmdke: why?  no installation candidate?  unmeetable dependency?11:38
noteventimerysiek|pl: It's supposed to be the same image as yesterday11:38
nxv_noteventime: i have installed the xserver-xgl, how can i activate it?11:38
mdkedumkopf, yes, I pasted it. openoffice.org2-kde11:38
noteventimenx_: YOu11:38
Enlight_unirysiek|pl: an external module for the kernel adding support for TI chipset based wifi cards11:38
noteventimenx_: You can run it in a window11:38
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noteventimenx_: What GPU vendor?11:38
rysiek|plnoteventime: I got the image all right, but on the default vga16fb framebufer - and I want to have 1024x768 console11:38
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rysiek|plEnlight_uni: ok, let's try installing from sources, then :)11:39
rysiek|plas I said, might not be in the repos11:39
noteventimerysiek|pl: Ok, what is the 640x480  image specs, also 14colors?11:39
nxv_noteventime: ati11:39
rysiek|plnope, gimme a sec11:39
rysiek|pl!usplash11:39
ubotusomebody said usplash was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto11:39
dumkopfKDE integration for OpenOffice.org.  hm.11:39
rysiek|plnoteventime: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto11:39
dumkopfmdke: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?11:39
noteventimenx_: sudo Xgl :1 -ac -accel xgl:pbuffer -accel vx:pbuffer11:40
mdkedumkopf, it is main and restricted11:40
rysiek|plI would add something to it, but a little later, when I actually test it and have it working ;)11:40
noteventimerysiek|pl: I've done that guide :D11:40
mdkedumkopf, and source for those too11:40
dumkopfmdke: i can almost guarantee that your problem is there, if apt can't find it.  i'm running Dapper and it's in my cache11:40
zulqarthank you will download and try11:40
rysiek|plEnlight_uni: do you have the webpage for this software11:40
mdkedumkopf, it is not that it isn't available, it is that the dependencies are broken11:40
noteventimenx_: That should give you a grayish looking window11:41
rysiek|plnoteventime: yep, me too. and then I understood it lacks a few things - and then, I got it to work on the default framebuffer :)11:41
noteventimeok11:41
nxv_noteventime: yes it does, and how can i start something in there?11:41
dumkopfmdke: what happens when you try to install OpenOffice.org2-kde ?11:41
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mdkedumkopf, dist-upgrade and you will probably see that openoffice.org2 get's removed11:41
noteventimenxv_: In a new console write DISPLAY=:1 startkde11:41
Enlight_uninot at this time, but it must be a package installed on the install cd 'cause this one installed it, but I just can't find the name of the package.11:42
Enlight_unirysiek|pl: it's not a big deal, I'll look later, I 've got to go ++11:42
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rysiek|plEnlight_uni: ok, cu later then :)11:42
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nxv_noteventime: something is starting, i am excited :)11:43
noteventimenxv__: :D11:43
kingpombawhat version of KDE comes with 5.1011:44
noteventimenxv_: :D11:44
noteventimekingpomba: 3.4 i think11:44
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noteventimenxv_: Has KDE started yet?11:44
nxv_noteventime: yes, but icons of the windows come very slow and most of them remain black11:45
noteventimenxv_: Do you have the binary ATI drivers?11:45
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noteventimenxv_: Anyway, do you have compiz installed?11:46
nxv_noteventime: hm, i have installed a long time ago :) fglrxinfo looks for me like ati driver11:46
nxv_noteventime: no, had not, i am installing it now11:47
kingpombawoot 25% of the way there11:47
noteventimenxv_:Ok, tell me when compiz is finished :)11:48
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nxv_noteventime: my father called me. he needs my help, so i have to go. just one last question. is it yet possible to use xgl as the default xserver?11:49
noteventimenxv_: Yes, but i wouldn't recommend it if your on an ATI card11:50
rysiek|plgotta get one of them nVidias at last...11:50
nxv_noteventime: okay perhaps when my desktop is running again i can use it there. it has an nvidia. thx for the information11:50
nxv_ill come back to learn some more about what is possible at the moment in kubuntu11:51
nxv_cu11:51
noteventimenxv_: Np ATi might come with some better drivers soon11:51
noteventimebye :D11:51
noteventimerysiek|pl: You wouldn't know if there is some kind of kill application applet in KDE, there is onein gnome11:52
kingpombaheh i like this splash screen http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1109811:53
kingpombaonly 75% more to go before the dvd version of kubuntu is done11:53
noteventimenice11:53
noteventimeIs there a pdf editor for Linux, like acrobat?11:54
rysiek|plas for the kill app, I always use kill from console ;)11:54
kingpombanot sure if their a editor11:54
kingpombatheres a reader11:54
noteventimei know11:54
rysiek|plthere's a pdf_printer :)11:54
noteventimeAnd openoffice has builtin exporter11:55
rysiek|plyep11:55
noteventimeKPDF rules, it's muuuuuuuch better then Adobe reader11:55
noteventimeI'l try scribus11:55
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rysiek|plgone testing usplash. brb11:57
kingpombawould kubuntu make a decent appche server12:01
noteventimekingpomba: sure12:03
noteventimekingpomba: There is a server version of ubuntu12:03
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linuxboyfriendhi all12:10
linuxboyfriendis there any frontend for wvdial?12:10
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Lurelinuxboyfriend: isn't kppp for that?12:12
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curuxzhey all12:13
curuxzcan anyone give me a quick peice of advice on xorg.conf please12:14
curuxzi want to know how to increase the gama level on a certain monitor (or all if you cant select juse one)12:14
curuxzanyone know what i should do?12:14
linuxboyfriendLure: i think so but i dont know why kppp is not working well and wvdial is perfectly working ?)12:14
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Hobbseecuruxz: i think you can do that in system settings12:17
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curuxzrealy i thought it was controled in the xorg file :S12:19
curuxzill try it when im back in KDE12:19
Hobbseesystem settings, display, IIRC, should be the gui frontend for controlling that12:20
curuxzim still doing package updates, since i had to reinstall ubuntu because i have changed the drives around, installed 2 sound cards for audio editing reasons and pluged in 3 monitors across 3 graphics cards......hate reinstalling, but had to for all that12:20
curuxzthanks :)12:20
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rysiek|plI'm back12:21
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rysiek|planybody has an idea why dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) does *not* use mkinitrd.conf to make the new initrd.img?12:22
curuxzdont know maybe its looking to another copy of that file12:24
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curuxzi seem to remember from my days of playing in gentoo you had to change symlinks when recompiling kernels12:24
rysiek|plI have only one copy of that file12:24
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simonehi everybody... any of you using Umbrello (UML design)?12:25
rysiek|pldpkg-reconfigure does the symlinks by itsels (I mean the initrd and vmlinuz symlinks)12:25
curuxzodd, have you looked on the forums at the kernel howtos?12:25
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rysiek|plnope. I thought it's (K)Ubuntu-specific problem12:25
rysiek|plmy Debian-friend hasn't got that issue12:26
curuxzhave you installed all the header packages and source packages12:27
curuxzmaybe something is missing12:27
rysiek|plI can do a new image without any problems with mkinitrd (then it uses the conf file), but I would like to have the proper scripts run12:28
rysiek|plso I'd prefer the dpkg-reconfigure way12:28
rysiek|plbesides - when I do it with mkinitrd I get the RESUME option right, and the modles I would like to have in initrd, but I don't get the usplash. If I use dpkg-reconfigure - it's the other way around.12:29
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_oliverhi12:29
rysiek|pl'ello12:29
_oliveranyone able to tell me why i can't switch to admin mode anymore? whenever i click "administrator mode" the red frame appears - then dissappears and nothing happend12:30
rysiek|plwhat verion of Kubuntu are you running?12:30
rysiek|pl*version12:30
_oliver5.10 afaik12:30
rysiek|plI got this bug too. I *think* it might be repaired in Dapper12:31
rysiek|plwhat you need to configure, maybe we can do it with editing the conf files12:31
_oliveranyway to fix it? because i can't work with it like this12:31
_olivera lot of things, network settings, partitions (swap esp.)12:31
_oliverIt worked in the first sessions though- when I rebooted it refused to work12:32
_olivernot even the password window shows up any longer12:32
rysiek|pld'oh12:32
rysiek|plfrankly - I don't know how to fix that12:32
rysiek|plbut I can help you with editing the config files12:32
Hobbsee_oliver: use kdesu kcontrol12:33
rysiek|plso that you can do the configuration without the wizards12:33
_oliverkdesu kcontrol is found where exactly?12:33
rysiek|plinput it in console12:33
_oliverk12:33
rysiek|pl!kdesu12:33
ubotumethinks kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "12:33
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noteventime!kdesu adept12:34
ubotunoteventime: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:34
noteventime:P12:34
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_oliver!kcontrol12:34
ubotuSome people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _oliver12:34
Evil_H!xine12:34
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Evil_H12:34
noteventime!gstreamer12:35
ubotuSyntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, noteventime12:35
noteventime!kubuntu12:35
ubotuwell, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/12:35
Evil_Hdoes the xine engine for amarok play WMA files?12:35
_oliverkcontrol leaves me with exactly the same problem and kdesu ain't working12:35
noteventimeWith w32codecs i think12:35
noteventime!ubuntu12:35
ubotuubuntu is, like, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.12:35
Evil_Hhmm. then something isnt set right somewhere12:36
noteventime!w32codecs12:36
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install12:36
rysiek|pl_oliver - works for me (Kubuntu 5.10)12:36
noteventime!ubotu12:36
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.12:36
Evil_Hi got the w32codecs12:36
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noteventimeOps ^^12:36
systempieHi there, i've just installed breezy, all works fine, but have some difficulties on installing my network connected HP officejet 7310, searched for help and found that i should use cups with a uri that is produced with hp-makeuri but that does'nt work out, has somebody ideas, thanx12:36
Hobbsee!botabuse12:37
ubotuYou can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.12:37
Hobbseenoteventime: hmmm?  you want !kops, if you want to call for ops12:37
noteventimeno, it was an wops12:37
Hobbseeah12:37
noteventimelike "o no sorry"12:37
Evil_H!restricted formats12:38
ubotuI guess restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'12:38
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noteventimeIs anyone more than me running aiglx?12:39
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JohnFluxnoteventime: maybe the developer of it is12:39
JohnFluxnoteventime: :-)12:39
noteventimehaha12:39
noteventimeaiglx is a lot more stable than xgl12:40
kingpombai heard it works on kubuntu but i can't find the link http://www.xchat.org/download/ .... could i compile the source for it?12:40
Evil_H!wma12:40
ubotuI heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats12:40
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_oliver1 More question, what should be the default settings for the standard llinux partition under the Disk & filessystem tab (like mountpoint, device, mode etc.)12:42
JohnFlux!dapper12:43
ubotuI heard dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates12:43
noteventime_oliver: Do you by srandard mean ext3?12:43
noteventime_oliver: Ext3 is standard in (K)ubuntu12:44
_oliverok12:44
_oliverty12:44
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jarlathIs it possible to make a videoCD from an avi file? Also, is there an easy way to do it?12:47
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JohnFluxjarlath: man mencoder12:48
jarlaththanks JohnFlux12:49
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jarlathJust checked adept for mencoder and also found a frontend called 'acidrip'. Could be good! :)12:50
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pulverhow do u save kmix settings so it chooses the right mixer 'main channel' at login?12:57
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rysiek|plaaaaargh! dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) uses mkinitramfs, not mkinitrd :] 01:00
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_jimhave they released an offical release date for Dapper yet?01:06
rysiek|pl!dapper01:06
ubotuI heard dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates01:06
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rysiek|plubotu tell _jim about dapper01:07
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Evil_Hhow do you get amarok to recognize and play WMA? I got the xine, gstreamer and arts engines and w32codes01:10
noteventimeIs somehone here profitient with festival?01:10
noteventimeEvil_H: I think you are only able to play old versions of WMA :(01:11
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Evil_Hits not playing any WMA01:11
Evil_Hand i had it working on my other laptop before it died01:11
noteventimeok01:12
noteventime!wma01:12
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats01:12
noteventimeMaybe01:12
pulveruhm installed some gnome libs by mistake before.. now the adept notifier update thingy wants to remove my kubuntu-desktop !! huh?01:12
Evil_Hbeen there already01:12
noteventimeok01:12
Evil_Hi have all the plugins and files i need01:12
Evil_Hjust a setting i cant remember01:12
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pulverChanges OK, Commit self destruct? no thanks...01:15
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_elenafg01:37
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Evil_Hwhy cant i add wma tracks to my amarok collection?01:43
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luitedoes anyone use dapper with a intel e/1000 nic? the latest kernel gives me a very unstable connection01:46
luiteoops01:46
luitethat was meant to go in #ubuntu+101:46
StufforHello!01:46
StufforDoes anybode know a console-based MP3-Player like mp3blaster, but with ALSA-Support?01:47
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callieanyone here able to help me with a little HTML code ?01:51
calliebit off topic i know01:52
Hobbseecallie: possibly, what did you want to know?01:52
Hobbseeit's been a long time since i've done anythign with html01:52
calliei just need to know how to make jpeg link to a webpage01:52
callieso its clickable Hobbsee01:53
calliei know so little html is appauling01:53
Hobbseecallie: should be close to: <a href="/path/to/link"><img src="/path/to/image"></a>01:54
calliei was so close!01:55
calliethanks Hobbsee !01:55
Hobbseeno problems :)01:55
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sirblueany of you guys happen to know a guide for the ndiswrapper that actually works? chip is broadcom 43xx (gotta love it...)02:01
Hobbsee!ndiswrapper02:03
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper02:03
Hobbseethat one works pretty well sirblue02:03
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zimonhello guys02:12
Hobbseehey zimon02:12
zimoni've just finnished isstall kubuntu 5.10 ... nice job there02:13
Hobbsee:)02:13
zimondoes anybody tried to install enlightement ?02:14
Lurezimon: someone is looking into this02:15
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Luresee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ebuntu02:15
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LureKubuntu is KDE02:15
zimonyes02:15
zimonbut which of them do you think is better ?02:16
Lureit is personal choice I think02:16
fabimthat unofficial kubuntu FAQ , that's for hoary right?02:16
zimonI mean ... elightement is it stable ... can you run kde applications in it ?02:17
Lurefabim: yes, it is a bit outdated, bot lots of thing are still valid02:17
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Lurezimon: I do not see a reason why the could not run02:17
patrixenlightenmnet is a window manager02:18
patrix(and a few more things)02:18
patrixthere's no reason for KDE apps to not run with it02:18
zimonok02:18
zimon10x for answering to my stupid questions ;)02:18
patrixsometimes some applications behave a bit weirdly when running outside of the KDE environment itself02:18
zimonthen i stick to kde02:19
patrixbecause they expect this or that feature from Kwin02:19
patrixor they expect the systray02:19
patrixetc02:19
patrixnothing major02:19
patrixfrom my experience anyway :P02:19
zimonone more question02:19
zimonactually 2 of them02:19
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zimonATI and cedega or wine ?02:19
io_errorHi02:19
sirbluethanks hobsee & ubotu02:19
patrixzimon: not sure what's your question, what's the relation between ATI and wine/cedega ?02:20
zimonif I isntall the oficial ati driver from www.ati.com can I emulate 3d games with cedecga ?02:20
io_errorneeds the kubuntu team some help in programming or Database management?02:21
patrixzimon: I have no idea, the ATI drivers are X Window drivers, and wine displays stuff using X-Window, so it should help, afaik02:21
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zimonwell ... i'll find out that for my self then ....02:22
zimon10x again for the help02:22
zimonzbyez zbyez02:22
patrixcyz02:23
patrixa02:23
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hatake_kakashizimon: try #cedega02:30
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ubuntubonjour ?02:31
hatake_kakashi!tell ubuntu about fr02:32
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zimonhatake_kakashi: 10x02:33
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hatake_kakashizimon: I probably eventually will try cedega once I get my other box setup, its also got ATI video card as well02:33
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zimonI've tryed already cedega in Slackware02:34
zimonbut it had all kinds of bugs02:35
zimonand errors02:35
hatake_kakashizimon: iirc cedega was supposed to translate win32 handles, etc to linux02:35
zimonhow can I mount a mds image in linux ?02:35
hatake_kakashizimon: I don't think there is a way but I could be mistaken02:35
zimonok02:36
patrixwhat's mds ?02:36
zimonhatake_kadashi: can I find on the repositories cedega ?02:36
zimonor wine ?02:36
zimonwinex ...02:36
zimonMorrowind mds for example02:37
patrixcedega/winex is a commercial product02:37
hatake_kakashipatrix: media descriptor file I think02:37
zimonMorrowind.mds02:37
zimona cd iamge file02:37
hatake_kakashizimon: not sure02:37
zimoncedega ... is free02:37
zimonI think02:37
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patrixcedega = winex = commercial product02:38
patrixsure the source code is free, you're free to grab it and compile it and set it all up yourself ;)02:38
hatake_kakashipatrix: there's various cd images, mdf/nrg/bin are just some of the formats that I don't think there are linux support. Though FUSE may hold a key to it later on probably02:38
weedarFor some reason programs have started crashing, Amarok, Kicker, Firefox...Any suggestions as to what I should do?02:39
patrixhatake_kakashi: I've seen a nrg->.iso util before02:39
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zimonpost somewere your debug log02:40
hatake_kakashipatrix: yes there are tools to convert to iso, however: a) is it reliable that the data is converted correctly? b) There are certain images that contain specific details about error sectors and all, afaik iso9660 has some limitations here and there. Would the conversion be successful in imitating those?02:40
hatake_kakashiweedar: try running those programs through konsole02:41
patrixhatake_kakashi: all 3 times I've used nrg2iso it worked flawlessly. Sector errors etc, so what ;) mostly games do that for copyprotection hm?02:41
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hatake_kakashipatrix: yeah, well, there are many things that I'm still curious if converting to iso would be the right choice.02:42
weedarhatake_kakashi, good idea02:42
patrixwell for what I used it for it was te right choice02:42
hatake_kakashipatrix: ahh ok02:42
patrixfiles that should have been iso to start with but the person who ripped it used nero and made it nrg because.. well just becayuse lol02:42
hatake_kakashipatrix: I'm sure there are certain ramifications of iso9660 has limitations. If these other companies come stumbling along the iso9660 standards and creating their own unique format. Then there probably is a) a proper reason apart from the fact that they want to make money out of it. b) iso9660 is probably too common? ;)02:44
patrixhatake_kakashi: if you say so02:45
patrixall I'm saying is the files were .nrg but could just as well have been .iso02:45
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patrixhaha02:45
patrixnope didn't crash02:45
hatake_kakashiweedar: certain programs will not output debug info to konsole, and may not even have ways to enable it without recompiling it. So be warned :)02:46
hatake_kakashipatrix: heh, well, I'll give conversion to iso9660 a try. However I have lack of hd space to do so and I don't trust CD/DVD :)02:46
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patrixhehe hatake_kakashi .. up to you :)02:46
weedarhatake_kakashi, I think my system is unstable because of my WLAN-card and graphics adapter..So when I have enough money I'll do a quick-fix and replace them =)02:47
hatake_kakashiweedar: well, just to make sure, read logs where possible :)02:47
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fabim!mp302:52
ubotumethinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:52
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped02:52
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_eddysalve03:02
_eddyho appena installato kubuntu03:02
_eddynon riesco a fare alcune cose:03:03
jpat|awayTm_T: ^03:03
hatake_kakashi!tell _eddy about it03:03
jpat|away!it03:03
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:03
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_eddyi've just installed kubuntu03:03
Tm_Tjpat|away: =)03:03
_eddyi've problems03:03
_eddyI can't check my gmail account03:03
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_eddymy yahoo account03:04
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chxhi. KDirWatch::removeDir can't handle '/etc/security/fileshare.conf' . what's this?03:08
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ryanakcahow d'you play .wmv in linux? I used to be able to, but since dapper upgrade, I can't, and I dont remember how I set it up...03:11
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pulverryanakca: w32codecs?03:18
ryanakcakk03:19
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pulverwhy does that mean adept-update want to wipe kubuntu-desktop and office from my disk? it says 'remove'...03:22
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Boreliait whats to kill kde  ?03:24
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DexterFheya03:24
ryanakcahullo DexterF03:25
ryanakcapulver: what d'you mean?03:25
DexterFI just updated Dapper, saw Xgl is available. Now - how do I enable it?03:25
fabimmy amarok is closing when i try to play any file03:25
pulverlol dunno if removing kubuntu-desktop just removes the meta package but office? what did i do to deserve that...03:25
ryanakcaDexterF: go to #ubuntu-xgl03:26
ryanakcapulver: what are you trying to do?03:26
ryanakcapulver: are you updating to dapper?03:26
DexterFthanks. another thing: I noticed there's no fglrxconfig in the fglrx package.03:26
DexterFI took an xorg.conf from another machine, but seems not right.03:27
pulverryanakca: the adept update list says to remove kubuntu-desktop and office, im running dapper but the adept notify popped up...03:27
DexterFplus, I'm still on Mesa rendering, so what's it about the fglrx pack anyway?03:27
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ryanakcapulver: odd....03:28
ryanakcapulver: just a sec... I'll see if it wants to remove my kubuntu-desktop too03:29
pulverryanakca: rgr03:29
ryanakcapulver: Nope....03:29
ryanakcapulver: rgr?03:29
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pulverok03:30
me2winhey whats the file to edit runlevels?03:31
ryanakcapulver: when was the last time you tried updating?03:31
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me2winor how do you set it to run at runlevel 3,03:31
ryanakcame2win: not sure.... try "man init"..... I think its telinit, but not sure...03:32
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pulverryanakca: updated few days back.. is there a way to see apt history? think this started after installed some packages..03:32
ryanakcaI dunno.... I updated last night... it had to upgrade about 40 packages like debutils and things like that... but kubuntu-desktop wasnt in that list...03:33
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DexterFme2win: /etc/inittab should be the place03:35
jorishello peoples, i have a problem with the compose key in kubuntu. I can only write  but nothing else, except in firefox03:35
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jorisanyone a clue about what to do to fix it?03:37
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me2winthank DexterF and ryanakca for the init tip03:37
me2winjoris, not sure, i had that problem a while back but dont know what i did to fix it03:37
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ryanakcame2win: your welcome... it work?03:38
me2winryanakca, lets hope so, it was for my friend, not for me. I remember one time editing it, but i forgot how to, it fixed my problem when i did it, so im sure it will fix his too03:40
me2winhe can't boot to GUI, just to command03:40
me2winand when that happened to me, i rememeber running sudo init 303:40
me2winbut i guess i really ran sudo telinit 303:40
me2winnow that i look at it, that is03:40
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jorismy god, this compose key GUI is really crap...03:44
jorisnow I turned it off but the right alt +ae still gives 03:44
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ryanakcame2win: he have kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop installed?03:58
me2winhe has ubuntu wharty03:59
jpat|awaywoah04:00
ryanakcahmmm04:00
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me2winryanakca, hes on dialup04:02
DatsunZosoHey guys04:02
me2wini sent him a CD through the mail04:02
me2wina few months back04:02
DatsunZosoI gotta question concerneing kubuntu, you think you guys can help me?04:02
me2winDatsunZoso, nah...04:02
DatsunZoso:(04:02
me2win:P04:02
DatsunZosolol04:02
me2winjk, we're always here to help04:02
DatsunZosowell thanks04:02
ryanakcame2win: lol... I see... I was wondering why he hadn't updated to breezy04:02
me2winryanakca, haha, yeah, im gonna get him to get a dapper cd shipped to him when it gets released04:03
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ryanakcaDatsunZoso: First of all, please help us help you by telling us your question04:03
DatsunZosoi wanna switch from windows xp to kubuntu. on xp I have 2 partitions that I use, one for actually running of windows, and the other one to store information and data like music and app's. i want to retain the partition with the data and music, is there any way that I can do that while installing kubuntu?04:03
ryanakcame2win: good.... wharty... I started on that... then I ditched ubuntu for fedora core, then mandrake, and now kubuntu04:04
me2winDatsunZoso, of course, but the thing is, since you already have 2 partitions, you are gonna have to do 1 of 2 things. a) know exactly how much space you need for that storage partition because you will be installed kubuntu at the end of the drive. b) find some way to store that information elsewhere till you can delete that second partition, install kubuntu, and create another partition04:05
me2winryanakca, heh, i started with ubuntu warty, then decided i hate gnome, so i switched to kubuntu, and been there every since. I used slackware before ubuntu04:06
me2winand gentoo04:06
DatsunZosook. so basicllay i have to backupo all the information on the data and music partition into my mp3 player (30 gigs, I only have 20 gigs of stuff in the partition!)04:06
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me2winheh04:07
DatsunZososo when i install kubuntu, i would delete both windowns partitions?04:07
me2winDatsunZoso, tell me how big the HD is, and how big each partition is, and we'll talk it out04:07
DatsunZosothe hd is 80 gigs, data & music is 20 gigs, and the work hd is 6004:07
ryanakcaI started on Debian, then FC1, then Debian, then what was mandrake, then wharty... I've one lots of voyaging threw distros... I even think openBSD and freebsd popped up along the way04:08
me2winDatsunZoso, ah ok. Well, you dont have to delete the first windows partition (NTFS filetype), it can stay. You don't even have to delete the second partition if you KNOW that you only need 30 gigs for data and music. But if you think you would possibly need to expand it in the future, then yeah, you will have to delete it04:09
me2winhere is how your partition table looks04:09
me2win80 Gig HD:    |Windows (60 Gigs, NTFS)|Music & Data (20 Gigs, NTFS)|04:09
me2winnow, if you installed kubuntu04:10
DatsunZosoo rly? ya i just want to get rid off the windows partition and let the music and data partition stay.04:10
me2windo you want to get rid of windows permanently?04:10
DatsunZosoyes sir04:10
me2winhmmk04:10
me2winwell then that makes it a little easier04:10
DatsunZosoi gotta windows xp lying around somewere04:10
DatsunZososo if anything goes bad (which prob wont) i can just reinstall it04:11
me2winback up your music and data on your mp3 player, then wipe both partitions, pop in the install cd and your good to go if you know how to install it04:11
me2winnow, that raises more questions because pf a few things. You will have to consider the filetype you are gonna use to keep storing things (data and music)04:12
DatsunZosooh, lets say i want to keep the music and data cd, can i still keep it and acess it from kubuntu04:12
me2winwell, you can't necesarily keep it, because its further ahead in the partition table that linux. And you want linux at the front of the partition table (with windows if you want to dual boot)04:12
DatsunZosook04:13
me2windo you know about filetypes?04:13
me2winlike04:13
me2winntfs04:13
me2winfat3204:13
DatsunZosoya its ntfs04:13
DatsunZosowhole hd04:13
me2winyeah04:13
DatsunZosoboth partitiosns04:13
me2wini mean04:13
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me2winlinux can read ntfs fine04:13
me2winbut it cant write to it, its dangerous to write to ntfs from linux04:14
me2winBUT04:14
me2winthere are easy to implement "extensions" for linux04:14
me2winthat make it easy to read/write/edit ntfs partitions from linux easily and safely04:14
me2winwrite this down: its called ntfsprogs04:14
DatsunZosok04:14
me2winthere is a wikipedia for it04:14
me2winnow, thats your only tool for being able to write to ntfs without being in danger of ruining your HD04:15
me2winor ruining the data at least04:15
DatsunZosooh ok04:15
me2winyour only other options are either to create a fat32 (which both linux and windows can read/write to, but you are limited to like 5 gigs i think thats the max partition size for fat32) or just create a partition for data/music that is ext3 (the linux filetype)04:16
DatsunZosoi think what im gonna do is get windows complete off the pc, save music and data onto the mp3 hd, install kubuntu and just save the music and data onto kubuntu04:16
DatsunZosocan i do that? lol04:16
me2winDatsunZoso, yeah, if youd like, but the same reason why you HAVE that music/data partition now applies for linux too, if you ruin linux, you wont have to worry about bacing up your data, its already backed up04:17
me2winDatsunZoso, if you mean save music and data onto the linux filetype ext3, then yeah, that sounds great to me04:17
DatsunZosohow would i save into ext3?04:19
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me2winjust like ntfs04:19
me2winext3 is like ntfs as far as saving goes04:19
me2wintheres no special way04:19
me2winthe only thing you would have to do04:20
me2winis make the ext3 partition04:20
me2winhave you ever edited a partition table manually?04:20
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DatsunZosono04:20
me2winhehe, then you will have after you install linux :P04:20
DatsunZosowell at least i dont think i have?04:20
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DatsunZosooh lol ok04:20
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me2wini would suggest reading a how to guide on editing partitions manually04:21
me2win!partition04:21
ubotume2win: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:21
me2win!partitions04:21
ubotuGo to System -> Administration -> Disks and enter your password. Pick the disk your partition is on from the list, then click the 'Partitions' tab. Select the partition you want to mount, set an access path (mount point) and click 'Enable'.04:21
DatsunZosothis is my first dive into linux, so im kinda noobish in the field04:21
stianHow do I install the latest version of sun java on my kubuntu box?04:21
me2winDatsunZoso, yeah, it is for alot people, but they all get through it04:21
me2winDatsunZoso, kubuntu makes it easy04:21
me2winstian, sudo apt-get install java04:21
stianthat won't do it..04:21
me2winerr, its java-common04:22
me2winmy bad04:22
me2winmake sure to apt-get update first04:22
stiandoing it now04:23
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DatsunZososo ok lets recap, i dont have to delete the m&d partition, just the big windows partition right? than when i install kubuntu, i can just change the ntfs partition into ext3?04:23
me2winDatsunZoso, nah, you will have to delete it because you cant *change* a partition type, you have to wipe it, make it that type, then put your data on it04:24
stianit says i have the latest version, but when i try to run limewire, i get this: hang on04:24
stianYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com04:24
DatsunZosoohhh kk04:24
DatsunZosoluckily i have almost all the music on my mp3 player04:25
me2winstian, you might need to apt-get build-essential04:25
me2winDatsunZoso, heh yeah, that IS a good thing04:25
DatsunZosoim gonna save the rest of the stuff i need onto it now04:25
stiani have the latest essentials04:26
me2winDatsunZoso, you would have to delete that music and data partition anyway, because when you boot your computer up, the boot record has to be at the front of the partition table, so your hard drives needs to look like this:     |Operating System|<usic and Data| not |Music and Data|Operating System| it does matter04:26
me2winstian, hmm, thats wierd04:26
DatsunZosooh ok i got it04:26
DatsunZosothe main thing that concerned me was my music, i dont want to download all the music i had lost04:27
me2winheh yeah, i know what you mean04:27
DatsunZosobut i just remebered i have it already on my mp3 player lol04:27
me2wini have 5 hard drives04:28
me2winmy data is important to me :D04:28
DatsunZoso5! i have 1 sata hd :(04:28
me2winheh04:28
me2winI have 4 SATA and 1 IDE04:28
DatsunZosowell im not exactly i power user04:28
me2winheh04:28
DatsunZosoi just heard that linux is real stable04:28
DatsunZosocompared to how windows is !04:28
me2winhehe04:28
me2winyeah, but it has a learning curve04:29
me2winhopefully when you come in here though04:29
me2winpeople will be willing to help04:29
Dr_WillisLearning is fun04:29
me2winthey usually are04:29
DatsunZosoya lol i noticed!04:29
me2win but sometimes the people that are on aren't really the people that know04:29
Dr_WillisI got about 7 HD's total. on 2 box's04:29
DatsunZosoon windows i have this app called aston shell which basically stops explorer.exe from working when ur on the desktop, it only starts to work when you go into folders, and windows has been so stable04:29
Dr_Willisthats sort of a 'scary' idea. :P04:30
Dr_Willislol04:30
me2winDr_Willis, counting the 3 comps in my house, i have 12 hard drives04:30
Dr_WillisI need to get a nother file server going..04:30
Dr_Willisrunning out of space. :P04:30
DatsunZosousually i would have to reinstall windows every 6 months, but with astonshell it helped me not even think of that for a year!04:30
me2winDr_Willis, hehe, you can never have enough space04:30
Dr_WillisStacks of floppies, to stacks of CD's to stacks of external HD's ,, now going the Stack of FileServers....04:31
me2winDatsunZoso, never even heard of that heh04:31
DatsunZosoya its a wierd little app04:31
DatsunZosobut it works so i dont question it lol04:31
me2winhaha04:31
Dr_WillisI can store my whole amiga  floppy drive  collection - to one USB thumb drive now.  :)04:31
Dr_Willisa closet of C64 disks = 1 cd.04:32
Dr_Willis:P04:32
Dr_Willisthen i got a single mame rom/game that takes up 1 gb. Lol!04:32
me2winLOL04:32
DatsunZosooh i have one more question04:34
me2winsure04:34
DatsunZosoi have a encylcopedia type cd that works on windows, is there a way that i cna get it to run on linux?04:35
DatsunZosocan i install some type of app /04:35
DatsunZoso?04:35
fabimin adept how can i see in wich repositories is a package?04:35
me2winthere is WINE, its a windows emulator, but it doesnt work for everything, thats about your best shot. other than that, just farming the data right off the CD, but that would be tedious04:35
Dr_WillisCedega may be better then wine in some cases04:36
DatsunZosocedega is only for games though04:36
DatsunZosoor specifically for games04:36
me2winDatsunZoso, yeah, I was/am under that impression as well, but ive never used cedega tbh04:36
Dr_WillisI use it for tools all the time. :P04:36
Dr_Willisit runs winrar  heh04:37
Dr_Willisand a few other tools i like.04:37
me2winlolz04:37
me2winwhy winrar?04:37
me2winwhy not use unrar04:37
me2winlinux native04:37
Dr_Willisi like the features winrar has.04:37
Dr_Willis:P04:37
me2winheh04:38
DatsunZosolol04:38
DatsunZosoirony04:38
Dr_Willisi use it to make zips mainly..04:38
Dr_Willisreal irony!04:38
Dr_Willis:P04:38
me2wini wont tell you anything, i have things like that i guess04:38
Dr_WillisI still cant track down a CD-Lable making program under Linux I like.04:38
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me2winDr_Willis, lol04:39
DatsunZosoi have one last question04:39
DatsunZosohow would i connect to the internet with kubuntu? i have a dsl connection and im wondering how to connect with linux! n00bish but im a noob :P04:40
me2winDatsunZoso, it should work out of the box04:40
DatsunZoso!04:40
ubotuI don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DatsunZoso04:40
me2winlol04:40
me2winthats ubotu04:40
me2winhe responds to ! commands04:40
me2winwatch04:40
me2win!repos04:40
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:40
me2winand when you say his name04:40
me2winubotu you suck04:41
ubotuLike a black hole!04:41
DatsunZosoit should work outta the box? like on windows i dont have anything installed from it, i just have a connection were i put my username and pw is it the same with linux or is it more work?04:41
me2winDatsunZoso, but yeah, it should work fine after install04:41
DatsunZososo when i install linux, i can already connect to the internet.....? lol im confused!04:41
me2winDatsunZoso, well04:42
me2wini have my DSL connected through the router04:42
me2windo you have a router?04:42
Dr_Willisif its a dsl->router->linuxbox. it should work.04:42
me2winive set my router to login with my username/pw, i forgot completely about the box thingy04:42
DatsunZosono i dont have a router i just have the pc-modem-connection04:43
me2winDr_Willis, does he have to login manually, or will it work?04:43
Dr_WillisHmm...04:43
DatsunZosowell id hope i had to login manually04:43
Dr_Willismy router and cable modem just 'work'04:43
Dr_Willis:)04:43
Dr_Willislol04:43
me2winDr_Willis, lols04:43
me2win!dsl04:43
ubotuI guess pppoe is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE04:43
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beastit should find DHCP just fine04:44
me2winDatsunZoso, im thinking it should work out of the box04:45
DatsunZosowell when u say outta the box i would still have to put my pw and username in right?04:46
me2winyes04:47
me2winread this04:47
me2winhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE04:47
me2winyou may not know what i means now, but once you get into linux04:48
me2winyou will need that to connect to internet probably04:48
me2winpppoe04:48
me2wini suggest printing out that page04:48
DatsunZosook... sudo pppoeconf04:48
me2winif you can04:48
DatsunZosoya i printed it out already04:48
DatsunZosoi have a bunch of pages printed in case i run into problems04:48
me2wingood good04:49
me2winlet me go through some stuff real quick04:49
DatsunZosoi just want to connect to the internet and listen to music and thats pretty much it04:49
DatsunZosook04:49
me2winso you know what you are running into04:49
DatsunZosoya have a basic idea, but very limited04:49
DatsunZosostill dont understand alot of the commands and stuff but im gettin there04:49
me2winroot is the superuser of your computer, he can do everything. But the idea behind ubuntu/kubuntu is that you arent logged in as root (its dangerous). so instead it uses a frontend called SUDO (or "superuser do")04:50
me2winit allows you to do things AS root, that you can't do as a normal user04:50
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me2winsudo pppoeconf04:50
me2winwill ask the computer via commandline, to edit pppoeconf04:51
me2winyou cant do that just as04:51
me2winDatsun the user04:51
me2winhave to be root,04:51
DatsunZosoi c04:51
Al-Dajahttp://pastebin.com/583593 anyone can tell me what is wrong or what is missing?04:51
me2winthat goes for lots of things04:51
me2windo you have build-essentials Al-Daja04:52
me2winDatsunZoso, you will also hear people talk about packages and adept04:52
me2winpackages are like install files04:52
me2winand you can use adept as a tool to easily get them (to avoid having to do it command line style)04:53
DatsunZosok04:53
Al-Dajame2win: translate build essentials04:53
me2win!build-essentials04:53
ubotuWhat? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win04:53
me2win!build-essential04:53
ubotuI guess build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info04:53
me2winAl-Daja, run sudo apt-get install build-essential04:54
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Al-Dajame2win: thx04:54
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DatsunZosowell if anything, this is gonna be interesting05:00
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me2winDatsunZoso, its fun :D05:01
DatsunZosoya lol05:01
me2winyou'll be a linux user in no time05:01
DatsunZosohow long does kubuntu take to install anyways?05:01
me2winabout 10 minutes05:01
me2win15 minutes maybe05:01
DatsunZosoD:05:01
DatsunZosowow lol!05:01
DatsunZosocompared to 1-1 1/2 hr for windows lol05:01
Psi-JackTook me about 20-25 actually.05:01
DatsunZosowell still better than an hour05:02
jjessequick question i've commented out from my sources.list the cdrom that i used to install kubuntu because i can't find it any more, why does it still prompt for that cdrom and how to do i get around it?05:02
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me2winsources.list? or fstab?05:02
me2winDatsunZoso, yeah it is better than an hour, I guess it depends on your computer speed05:02
jjessei'm try to install cdrdao to burn cds05:03
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jjessesudo apt-get install cdrdao and it prompts for my cddrom05:03
jjessehowever i no lng er have that cdrom, so i've commented it out of my sources.list05:03
me2winwhy not just use k3b?05:03
jjessewhen i go to burn a cd it says i need cdrdao05:03
jjesseusing dapper05:04
me2winhmm05:04
azurehuesofbluehow do I switch from gnome to kde?05:04
me2winazurehuesofblue, QUICKLY!05:04
me2winlol05:04
azurehuesofbluelol05:04
azurehuesofblueso like, I install the kde package THEN uninstall Gnome, right?05:05
azurehuesofblueor...05:05
DatsunZosook im gonna dive into this right after the song im playing is over!!!05:05
me2winazurehuesofblue, to be completely honest, ive NEVER had to do it, so im not sure05:05
me2winazurehuesofblue, ask in #ubuntu05:05
me2winDatsunZoso, w00t, excited?05:05
DatsunZosohell yea lol05:05
me2winlolz05:05
DatsunZosoim kinda anxious05:06
azurehuesofbluelol, I told you about that didn't I m2win, I can't keep up!05:06
me2winDatsunZoso, do you have a LIVE cd?05:06
DatsunZosowonderin how its gonna turn out05:06
me2winazurehuesofblue, oh yeah lolz05:06
DatsunZosono i have the actual install cd05:06
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DatsunZosoin retrospect i shouldve tried the live cd first, but im a risk taker lol05:06
Al-Dajame2win: can you help with is? http://pastebin.com/58361805:06
azurehuesofbluesee, this chatroom has a nice pace... so, I kinda want to switch to KDE, so I can ask questions in here! and... just to try KDE.05:06
me2winDatsunZoso, lolz, well, i suggest live CD because if you run into a problem installing, you can boot up the live cd and ask for help, know what i mean?05:07
me2winazurehuesofblue, lol05:07
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azurehuesofbluewell, I mean, can I DL a Dvd iso of Kubuntu? or anything?05:07
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me2winAl-Daja, says you dont have permission, use sudo05:07
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DatsunZosoya i know what ya mean05:08
me2winazurehuesofblue, you can, yes05:08
azurehuesofblueok, I'll do some searching for it., see if I can find amd6405:08
ronaldson40hi05:08
DatsunZosolast question, does linux support mp3's? is there any prog that does or would i have to convert them into ogg vorbis?05:08
azurehuesofbluelinux supports mp3s05:08
Al-Dajame2win: use sudo to make install that's possible? or change to root?05:08
me2winDatsunZoso, supports them fine05:08
ronaldson40Is there a more powerful program for torrent downloading than Azureus and Ktorrent05:09
DatsunZosooh thank god lol05:09
me2winAl-Daja, you HAVE to use sudo for make install05:09
me2winsudo make install05:09
DatsunZosoammarok is it?05:09
me2winDatsunZoso, yep05:09
me2winalso xmms05:09
DatsunZosook05:09
me2winbut05:09
me2winamarok is better05:09
me2win:D05:09
Al-Dajame2win: that i didn't know thx05:09
me2winAl-Daja, np05:09
me2winAl-Daja, if you want to build a package from it05:10
me2winso you can easily uninstall05:10
jjessegrumble can't figure out whats going on :(05:10
me2winyou checkinstall05:10
me2win!checkinstall05:10
ubotuI heard checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall05:10
me2winjjesse, sorry one sec lemme chek05:10
me2winjjesse, where is your sources.list located? the only sources.list im aware of is the repositories one05:10
DatsunZosok gonna go do it lol05:10
me2winDatsunZoso,05:11
me2winlol05:11
me2wingood luck man05:11
me2wini hope to see you back in here in 10-30 mins05:11
DatsunZosoill cya in like ... 1 hr or less if everythin goes well lol05:11
me2windats lol05:11
jjessethat's what i'm talking about /etc/apt/sources.list05:11
DatsunZosocya thanks for the help05:11
me2winDatsunZoso, no problem, good luck!05:11
me2winand whats the line you are commenting out?05:12
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Thedekjjesse:  Post your /etc/apt/sources.list to kubuntu.pastebin.com05:12
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azurehuesofbluethis is prolly dumb but... I'm downloading kubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso     ....    so, I after the install it will automatically start the kde gui?05:14
jjesseThedek: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/58362805:14
me2winazurehuesofblue, yes05:14
jjesseazurehuesofblue: yes05:14
azurehuesofblueright on.05:14
azurehuesofbluethx05:14
me2winso you did comment out that second one?05:15
Thedekjjesse:  Comment out line 505:15
me2winjjesse,05:15
ThedekThen do: apt-get update and then go ahead and try to install your software.05:15
jjesseThedek: thanks stupid mistake of mine05:15
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Thedekjjesse:  no problem. =)05:16
jjessethat's what i get for not finishing my coffee first :)05:16
me2winjjesse, thats what you get for drinking coffee eewwww05:16
Thedeklol05:16
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Thedeksometimes you just need a second pair of eyes. =)05:17
me2winand chocolate milk apparently :P05:18
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_juhafatal IO 104 (connection reset by peer) on x server after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining WTF??05:21
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Al-Dajame2win: now this http://pastebin.com/583663 , why so much problems?05:31
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_rooti need serious help!05:32
_rooti just removed basically half of the kbuuntu packages with the wrong command05:32
DHGEhello! anyone has a deb-source for kdevelop3 3.3.1 for amd64? compiling it from kde-sources get too many dependencies here ...05:32
_rootnow even if i try apt-get or a package manager it says something about a lock05:33
azurehuesofblueI'm a noob... so there's that... but... kubuntu IS still Ubuntu and Breezy Badger release and all that is exactly the same, just with a different gui.05:33
azurehuesofblue?05:34
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Guardianhello05:47
nukyhey, does anyone know if there is a deb source available for kdesvn? if not, is it safe to convert rpm sources to deb ones using alien?05:47
me2winnuky, not sure, and yes, its safe to do that05:50
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DHGEnuky:http://www.howtoforge.com/howto_linux_debian_deb_checkinstall05:53
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rysiek|plnoteventime, r u here? :)05:57
rysiek|plnope, he's not, apparently05:58
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me2winlol05:59
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aolbrichhallo all06:16
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me2winhmm06:21
azurehuesofblueI installed it :)06:22
azurehuesofblueoh you left heh.06:22
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azurehuesofbluegosh, I'm dumb... how do you pull up the terminal window in kde?06:32
jpat|awayAlt+F2 : konsole06:32
azurehuesofblueyou're cool; thanks!06:33
jpat|awaytrue06:33
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stufforHi! Ich bisn wieder, hatte ein paar Porbleme mit IRC. Nochmal meine Frage: Wie update ich die KDE am einfachsten auf Version 4.5.106:34
azurehuesofblueand like, on gnome, it has that... add programs bar... how do you do that on kde?06:34
rysiek|pl!german06:34
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rysiek|pl06:34
stufforsry06:34
jpat|away!de06:34
rysiek|plstuffor: #kubuntu-de06:34
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de06:34
jpat|awayazurehuesofblue: K-Menu -> System -> Konsole06:35
stufforrysiek|pl: My mistake, I know kubunbtu-de06:35
rysiek|plno prob :)06:35
azurehuesofblueok, do you have to add programs with the command prompt?06:35
rysiek|plit was for you to be able to get some help, not for us not to read in German.06:35
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emc2[] hi guys...06:37
emc2[] which line should i add to /etc/apt/sources.list to make kubuntu install firefox 1.5 instead of 1.0.7?06:37
emc2[] (basically, which line define the inclusion of a sid mirror?)06:38
rysiek|plemc2[] : no Firefox in Ubuntu repos06:38
emc2[] rysiek|pl: why?06:38
rysiek|plbecause nobody added it, obviously :)06:39
rysiek|plbut:06:39
rysiek|pl!firefox06:39
rysiek|plubotu tell emc2[]  about firefox06:39
jpat|awaybecuase Breezy's been released already06:39
jpat|away!firefox1.506:39
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:39
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emc2[] thank you so much :)06:39
nismothis is datsunzoso06:39
nismozomg06:39
nismolol it works w00t06:39
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Datsunzosohorray!06:42
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Datsunzosolinux works for me yay!06:44
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rysiek|plit's quiet in here... too quiet...06:47
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Datsunzosowell im wonderin were the guy that helped me went to!06:48
ttreadI guess everybody's kubuntu must be running perfectly w/no probs06:50
Datsunzosoim noit06:50
Datsunzosolol im a first time user and i got problems06:50
rysiek|plthat's normal :)06:50
Datsunzosobut their just noob related maybe you can help06:50
rysiek|pljust write them down here and we'll get through them06:50
Datsunzosoi got firefox but how do i install it on linux06:50
rysiek|plubotu tell Datsunzoso about firefox1.506:51
Datsunzosothnx!06:51
rysiek|plno prob. should you run into trouble, just drop a line :)06:52
azurehuesofblueIm a Kde noob, does all "adding of programs" have to be done in the terminal?06:53
rysiek|pl??06:53
rysiek|plwhat do you mean by "adding programs"06:53
ttreadazurehuesofblue, use adept06:53
rysiek|plinstalling them, or adding them to the KMenu?06:53
azurehuesofblueI mean, I'm used to gnome and on gnome... it has a pretty graphicall interface to add packages and programs.06:54
rysiek|plas ttread said: use Adept06:54
rysiek|pl!adept06:54
ubotu[adept]  a package manager for Kubuntu. A howto is provided here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:54
azurehuesofbluethanks!06:54
rysiek|plno prob :)06:54
rysiek|plpfffff... KDE would not have it's own APT GUI! pshaw! ;)06:55
azurehuesofbluelol, what's the difference between the two guis?06:55
ttreadnot really any difference in function, but they're built with different toolkits06:56
azurehuesofbluewhich one is easier for a noob, and which one is more desirable for a geek?06:56
azurehuesofblueIYO06:57
ttreadreally they're quite similar06:58
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azurehuesofblueoh ok, I can accept that. :)... trying to find my perfect learning curve.06:59
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DarkAdmiralhow do i turn "syntax on" in vim for ever?07:01
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rysiek|plman vim (in console)07:04
robotgeekubotu: tell DarkAdmiral about vim07:04
rysiek|plit's somewhere in vim conf files :)07:04
DarkAdmiralk problem solved07:04
robotgeekDarkAdmiral: take a look at that howto :)07:04
DarkAdmiral"/etc/vim/vimrc"07:04
robotgeekDarkAdmiral: ~/.vimrc07:05
DarkAdmiraldont have that file07:05
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rysiek|plcreate it, then :)07:05
robotgeekDarkAdmiral: echo "synatx on" > ~/.vimrc07:05
gleesondhas anyone in her installed museek, I'm trying to build it but I can't get the .deb to see the pkges it needs07:05
robotgeekDarkAdmiral: echo "syntax on" > ~/.vimrc07:05
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DarkAdmiralbut "etc/vim/vimrc" does work too07:06
NRG88hi, how can i change the permissions for an ntfs permission? owner, group, etc?07:06
NRG88in terminal07:06
jpat|awayDarkAdmiral: that's global07:06
rysiek|plDarkAdmiral: yes. /etc/vim/vimrc will set it for all users07:06
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rysiek|pl~/.vimrc only for you07:06
DarkAdmiralk i see07:07
robotgeekDarkAdmiral: sure, but you have to have persmissions to edit the systemwide setting, etc07:07
robotgeekit;s usually better to edit _your_ vimrc07:07
DarkAdmiralyes okay thank you07:07
NRG88it says: chown: changing ownership of `hda5': Operation not permitted07:07
NRG88but i used su07:07
mijndertNRG88, put nls=utf08,umask=0222 in FSTAB and you can read from the mounted NTFS partition07:07
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NRG88mijndert, but i get this, when i try to change the file owner on a FAT32: chown: changing ownership of `hda5': Operation not permitted07:10
NRG88 but i used su07:10
NRG88in /media07:10
mijndertIn Ubuntu, on the standard settings that is, you cant use SU.. its sudo07:11
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NRG88i tried to change te owner back to root:07:12
NRG88root@NRGnet:/media# sudo chown root hda507:12
NRG88chown: changing ownership of `hda5': Operation not permitted07:12
NRG88hm07:12
NRG88i forgot to logout :D07:12
NRG88still:07:13
NRG88nrg88@NRGnet:/media$ sudo chown root hda507:13
NRG88chown: changing ownership of `hda5': Operation not permitted07:13
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NRG88it's an FAT32 partition07:13
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andreiah... i'm having some difficulties setting my display resolution.... anyone willing to help ?07:15
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Evil_His there a linux version of Konfabulator?07:16
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NRG88anyone? why can't i change owner-s in ubuntu?07:17
NRG88not in terminal, nor in nautilus07:17
NRG88and i used sudo07:17
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DarkAdmiralNRG88 : you've to modifie your fstab07:19
ttreadandrei, you may need to edit your etc/X11/xorg.conf07:20
NRG88i modified it07:20
DarkAdmiralNRG88: it could look like this "/dev/hdb5       /media/hdb5     vfat    rw,user,auto,uid=1000   0       0"07:20
DarkAdmiraluid is the user id07:20
NRG88hm07:21
NRG88actualli it looked like this:07:21
NRG88dev/hda5 /media/hda5 vfat defaults,uid=1000,gid=100,auto,rw,nouser 0 007:21
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NRG88is it ok?07:22
stuq__?07:22
DarkAdmiralmh why "nouser"?07:22
NRG88or i only need rw,user,auto and uid=1000?07:22
NRG88don't know, it's default07:23
DarkAdmiral"defaults" is not necessary either i think07:23
DarkAdmiral"rw,user,auto,uid=1000" should work07:24
NRG88ok, modified it07:24
NRG88now?07:24
DarkAdmiralmh reboot^^07:24
NRG88oh :(07:24
NRG88is it necesary?07:24
DarkAdmiraldunno07:24
NRG88i use ubuntu now, and this worked in kubuntu07:25
DarkAdmiralmaybe "umount /media/hda5 -l"07:25
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andreii now have my 17'' monitor set up at 2048x1536 .... when switch to 1280x1024 everything is huge...07:31
andreii't like i have to modify the dpi or something like that ...07:31
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andreii mean.... size 12 text is way bigger that it should be...07:33
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andreiplease help...07:34
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Juancitohola07:36
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CaptainbrailleHi, I'm trying to install wine0.9.9. with adept, my computer restarted and now when I try to "commit changes" it won't install because of a downloading error, how do I clean/clear it out so I can redownload it?07:48
vikkeyou want to remove wine that is?07:49
CaptainbrailleI don't have wine, I want to install it, but while adept was downloading it my computer restarted, and when I try to install it, adept says there is an error07:50
vikkewhat happens if you apt-get remove?07:50
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Captainbrailleapt-get remove, says that the package isn't there07:50
leafwCaptainbraille: man apt-get . There are options to clean the package database of broken packages, and to "force" things, such as a reinstall.07:51
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Captainbrailleohh, okay,thanks leafw, this is stll kind of confusing though07:54
leafwCaptainbraille: slow and easy :)07:55
claydohsometimes wine's repo gets overloaded and it takes a few times to download  the files, especially when a new version is released07:55
nukydoes anyone know how to set up keychain on breezy? i have done everything up to the point where i edit the ~/.bash_profile file.. no matter how i do it, the shh doesn't pick up the existing ssh-agent..07:55
Captainbrailleokay claydoh, and my comp restarting during the middle of the download doesn't help eh, haha07:56
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Flosofthey08:06
rysiek|plhi there08:06
Flosoftwhy is tomcat not anymore in the sources?08:06
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m0ns00nanyone good in c here?08:08
m0ns00nfscanf problem08:08
rysiek|plgive it a shot08:09
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Pupeno_Any SIP softphone that works ? does anybody know ?08:10
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rysiek|plWengoPhone, Skype08:18
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rysiek|plPupeno_: WengoPhone - www.openwengo.org, Skype: www.skype.com08:18
rysiek|plI got bopth working right now ;)08:18
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Evil_His there a program similar to Konfabulator for KDE?08:23
Evil_H!gdesklets08:26
uboturumour has it, gdesklets is gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/08:26
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rysiek|plI prefer SuperKaramba08:30
rysiek|pl!karamba08:30
uboturysiek|pl: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:30
rysiek|pl!superkaramba08:30
ubotuSuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org08:30
rysiek|plthere you are08:30
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rysiek|plcu all in 5mins08:33
rraphink"08:36
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Apple7hello!08:41
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Apple7i have a problem with Kubuntu08:44
SkrotFFSShoot :)08:44
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Apple7can help me:)(sorry by inglish i'm from Argentins)08:45
SkrotFFSApple7: What's the problem?08:45
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Apple7SkrotFFS> my problem is the next: I install with root and when I want to do something requests to be usuary root to me but I am it!08:48
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SkrotFFSYou installed a program as root, and when you want to use the program it tells you to switch to root user?08:49
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Apple7SkrotFFS> yes, I want to install packages and I can't08:52
SkrotFFSYou use "sudo apt-get install <package>"?08:52
Apple7the best is re-istall kubuntu (i'm new user)08:53
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Apple7i'm use the system BeOS and [windows:-(] 08:56
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tarohi08:57
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Apple7and i it wanted to use Kubuntu, in order to learn linux08:58
taroki?08:58
Apple7it is understood what I say?08:58
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taroki?08:59
taroi do not speak english08:59
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Borelia!it09:00
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:00
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fatejudgeris anyone having trouble getting multiple sound streams to work in Dapper?09:01
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rysiek|pldoes anybody know how to make dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) include a certain kernel module in the generated initrd?09:04
Apple7SkrotFFS> you can help me??09:04
SkrotFFSApple7: How did you install the program?09:05
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SkrotFFSAnd what is the name of the program you installed?09:05
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Apple7in this moments can't memory09:07
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Apple7the best re-install Kubuntu and read About Kubuntu?09:09
Apple7[sorry by inglish] 09:10
tarmathapple7 you dont need to reinstall kubuntu to read about it09:10
tarmathstart reading about it first, then you might be able to tell if you need to reinstall or not09:11
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gerryhola09:11
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Apple7tarmath i have problem, can't to solve09:13
tarmathis it that your problem cant be solved, or that you dont know how to solve it09:14
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dark_suicamarok has suddenly stopped playing any kind of sound, kaffeine still plays anything just ok, it has happened while i wasn't at home, but noone touched the computer, any idea?09:18
dark_suici've tried restarting it, but same problem09:18
Apple7tarmath> no it, i' new user in linux and think in to learn09:18
SkrotFFSApple7: You learn by experience. :)09:19
SkrotFFSApple7: What is the name of the program you are having problems with?09:20
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Apple7no revenber the name the program09:22
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Apple7some good book about Kubuntu09:23
Apple7?09:24
Borelianae but u can use channel as help like this:09:25
Borelia!ntfs09:25
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:25
Borelia!wma09:25
ubotuwell, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats09:25
Boreliaetc09:25
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CrowbarWhat camera software should I be using in KDE?09:27
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SkrotFFSCrowbar: I use digikam :)09:28
SkrotFFSIt supports a lot of cameras (PTP mode)09:28
CrowbarSkrotFFS: Oh, haha.  I was using digikam on gnome earlier.  Forgot it was actually a kde program09:29
fatejudgerdigikam is great09:29
SkrotFFSIndeed ;)09:29
CrowbarOk, definitely solved my problem.  Wonder what else I thought was gtk...09:29
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fatejudgerI need someone who has Dapper to test their sound09:29
SkrotFFSHow can you make that mistake? :p09:29
fatejudgerdifferent streams09:30
SkrotFFSfatejudger: I've got dapper09:30
fatejudgerSkrotFFS: did you lose the ability to play multiple audio streams in the last update?09:30
fatejudgerSkrotFFS: my audio system always seems to be taken by KDE now09:30
SkrotFFSLet's check. Playing music in amaroK and a video in the back should do the trick?09:30
fatejudgerSkrotFFS: I thought maybe they removed dmix from ALSA09:30
fatejudgerSkrotFFS: yeah09:31
fatejudgerSkrotFFS: or maybe testing out a sound in KDE09:31
L0ki`Once the system is installed is it possible to change the systems name? ie: etc@ubuntu to etc@somethinelse ?09:31
SkrotFFSfatejudger: I've got multiple audio streams09:31
fatejudgerL0ki`: yeah09:31
L0ki`how ?09:31
SkrotFFShostname <newname> methinks?09:31
fatejudgerL0ki`: should be in the network settings somewhere09:31
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fatejudgerSkrotFFS: well that is strange as hell09:32
L0ki`thnx i will check it09:32
fatejudgerSkrotFFS: I use an external sound card though, an Audigy NX09:32
fatejudgerSkrotFFS: so that may be what's giving me problems09:32
fatejudgerSkrotFFS: at the ALSA level09:32
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SkrotFFSMay be :)09:33
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rysiek|planybody has an idea how to make mkinitramfs include a certain module in the generated initrd?09:34
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Pupeno_did anyone package ekiga for breezy ?09:37
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ChetwinHello ppl09:38
rysiek|plhi09:38
ChetwinAnyone had experience loading kubuntu on an hp dv4000?09:38
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ronaldson40could u recommend a good antivirus software09:39
rysiek|plClamAV09:40
jpat|awayclamav ?09:41
ronaldson40is it free09:41
rysiek|plsearch on sourceforge.net09:41
rysiek|plyep09:41
rysiek|plOpenSource09:41
rysiek|plhttm://clamav.sourceforge.net09:41
rysiek|plI think09:41
rysiek|plshit: http://clamav.sourceforge.net that is ;)09:41
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L0ki`its on apt to09:42
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rysiek|plbut I prefer to compile myself - it's usually more up-to-date09:43
L0ki`true09:43
Olegshi09:43
rysiek|plyell'oh09:43
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Enlight_unirysiek|pl: so go for gentoo ;o)09:44
rysiek|plwell, actually I sometimes like to do some work and have fun on my box09:44
rysiek|pland not compile round the clock :)09:44
Enlight_unirysiek|pl: ok!09:45
Olegshi people09:46
Olegsany news about LICQ 1.3.2 available for 5.10?09:46
rysiek|plEnlight_uni: although I must say, that "emerge world" is a very tempting command to exec :] 09:46
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Enlight_unirysiek|pl: actually it's most often something like emerge -uDav world ^_^09:49
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Extreme_UnctionHey guys I got a question09:57
Extreme_UnctionI used AOSS to run a game (Alien Arena 2006: GE) and the sound quality is absolutely horrible. Anyway I can increase the quality?09:57
rysiek|plwhy on earth would you use the ObsoleteSoundSystem? :)09:58
Extreme_UnctionThe game uses it09:58
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Extreme_UnctionI'm only using the AOSS wrapper so I can hear SOMETHING..09:59
rysiek|pl:/09:59
rysiek|pltried running the game with artsdsp?09:59
Extreme_UnctionWhats the sp for?09:59
rysiek|plman artsdsp :)10:00
rysiek|plargh10:00
rysiek|plwait10:00
Extreme_UnctionNo hurry, just getting steam to work w/wine10:00
rysiek|plartsdsp is a tool that let's you run OSS-using apps through... aRts sounsystem :)10:01
Extreme_Unctionsweet10:01
rysiek|plartsdsp <command>10:01
Extreme_UnctionI'll give it a go in a bit10:01
rysiek|plno manpage on my system (no idea why)10:01
rysiek|plyou should find it somewhere in the wiki or on the net10:01
Extreme_UnctionI thought the whole point of man was to amuse Windows users with man vagina :\10:02
Extreme_Unction(Joking, of course!)10:02
rysiek|pl:)10:02
Extreme_UnctionYou know, I find WINE better than Windows :\10:02
Enlight_uniExtreme_Unction: I guess the question should be what does dsp (as in /dev/dsp/ stands for ;o)10:02
Extreme_Unctionlol10:02
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rysiek|plman woman: segmentation fault o_O10:03
Extreme_UnctionLol10:03
gerryhello10:03
Extreme_Unctionsegfaults are the downfall of me10:03
rysiek|pluse FPC ;)10:03
rysiek|plhi10:03
Enlight_uniIIRC ther is a man sex10:04
Extreme_Unctionbah10:04
gerrycan any one explain to me how to install a printer, i am a new linux user, this is my first day with it and i am abit confused, would love some help10:04
Extreme_Unctionhaha10:04
Extreme_UnctionUpdating steam10:04
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rysiek|plgerry: go to SystemSettings -> Printer10:05
rysiek|pl*Printars that is ;)10:05
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rysiek|plaaargh. P-R-I-N-T-E-R-S10:05
rysiek|plthat's better10:06
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Extreme_UnctionI find WINE a very amusing and good program.. Windows without the crap IMO10:06
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rysiek|pland without the instability :] 10:06
Extreme_UnctionSeriously!10:06
Extreme_UnctionSimulating Windows reboot ftw10:06
rysiek|plgerry: are you still here?10:06
gerrythanks ryskelp, ytrying now10:07
rysiek|plm'kay10:07
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leafwExtreme_Unction: someone tried to run windows viruses with WINE. They all failed quite miserably. You're protected!10:07
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Extreme_UnctionRofl!10:07
Enlight_unirysiek|pl: I have to disagree with you on that point, the NT kernel is quite fine, DLL's are weird so...10:08
gerryrylskep, what if my printer is not listed ?10:08
bipolarI'm a member of a very new LUG and we have some ideas for having some training for people looking to swtich from windows. Aparently there are at least 20 people looking to learn who are complete computer noobs. I'm wondering if there is any pre-created material that I can look over and incorporate into our "class".10:08
rysiek|plgerry: not listed where? in the add printer wizard?10:09
gerryyes10:09
rysiek|plbipolar: the wiki, of course :)10:09
rysiek|plgerry: what's the printer vendor and model?10:09
Borelia!sane10:09
bipolarrysiek|pl: the kubuntu wiki?10:09
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Borelia10:09
gerryi there a place where i can d.l. more versins? or is what listed there is all that is supported?10:09
Borelia!scanner10:09
ubotuFor scanners in Ubuntu, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners10:09
rysiek|plbipolar: aye10:09
Enlight_unibipolar: what do you think of while saying pre-created?10:09
gerryepson stylus cx360010:09
Enlight_uni!cdb10:10
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Enlight_uni10:10
Enlight_uni:/10:10
bipolarEnlight_uni: a talk of some kind. just some material that I can work with as a start.10:10
rysiek|plgerry: I'd try googling10:10
Extreme_UnctionHmm, how do you set the Windows version with WINE, if you don't mind.10:10
rysiek|plgoogle helps - and I remember there is a software drivers project somewhere10:11
Enlight_unibipolar: I guess you shouldn't runthrougt particular problems except for crappy wireless chipsets10:11
Extreme_Unctionnvm10:11
rysiek|plgerry: alternatively try visiting the vendors webpage - sometimes there are new Linux drivers published10:11
Enlight_unis/runthrought/run\ through/10:11
bipolarEnlight_uni: I'm not worried about that. This is basicly a tutoral/introduction for noobs.10:12
gerryok, thanks, will look in to it10:12
gerrybye10:12
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rysiek|plgerry: AND try some other, similar model's of the vendor10:12
Enlight_unibipolar: and ATI cards upper than radeon 9200 may be a pain in the ass10:12
rysiek|plthey are :)10:12
rysiek|plbut I managed to get my Radeon 9600 to work10:12
Enlight_unibecause ATI drivers are mmmh... how to stay polite???10:12
Extreme_UnctionThe w0rd10:12
Extreme_UnctionWINE came with Google earth10:13
Extreme_Unctionlol10:13
bipolarEnlight_uni: I'm not worried about those issues. I want to show people what kde/kubuntu can do. these are users who are looking into switching from Windows.10:13
Enlight_unirysiek|pl: yep it's totally feasable but I would avoid this for complete noobs10:13
bipolarEnlight_uni: they will probbly have kubuntu profesionaly installed.10:13
rysiek|pldefinetely :)10:13
rysiek|plI would be very happy to avoid it myself10:13
Enlight_unibipolar: wow that's great!10:13
bipolarEnlight_uni: yes. but first I need an introduction to "sell" it to them.10:14
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bipolarI'm going to be getting in front of 20-30 people and giving a talk on behalf of our LUG10:14
Enlight_uniBTW I was wondering if k/ubuntu is that straight? I had to fix some config files and to set root's password using thelive cd's shell after the "normal" install process10:14
bipolarneed to introduce them to the UI.10:14
Enlight_unigethostbyname was failing miserably while using sudo10:15
bipolarEnlight_uni: k/ubuntu does not use a root password. if you needed to set one, it's a bug10:15
Enlight_unibipolar: so I guess there isn't nicer than KDE for non geeks10:15
bipolarEnlight_uni: thats pretty much what I'm looking for.10:15
rysiek|plbipolar: if you have a nVidia based Kubuntu box (or a well-configured ATI based one) you can try 3ddesk - just as the icing on the cake10:16
rysiek|pl3d desktop switcher really awestrikes ;)10:16
Enlight_unibipolar: ah ok! I added one 'cause I just ca't live without my root session10:16
bipolarEnlight_uni: sudo -s :)10:16
Enlight_unibipolar: ok I'm not familiar with sudo and as I ran into troubles with it, I managed to get my old habits back ^_^10:17
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leafwEnlight_uni: type 'sudo -i' and you have your root session10:18
Paradox^where can I downlod the orginal/start ubuntu theme?10:18
leafwEnlight_uni: in a shell, though.10:18
Paradox^*kubuntu10:18
bipolarI've been googling for a couple hours and have found just about nothing when it comes to Kde/Kubuntu talks10:19
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gerryhow do i install more help files on my machine10:19
rysiek|plwhat for? you have them all on the internet10:19
leafwgerry: look for "-doc" on Adept or apt-cache10:20
gerryfor example, i am going to adept help, and it tells me the file is not there . what can i do to get more self help tools10:20
gerryleafw, i am a green user, can you please be more elaborative?10:20
alleegerry: afaik adept has no manual yet10:20
gerryooooh10:20
rysiek|plgerry: open KMenu -> System -> Adept and search for packages that have "-dev" in their names10:21
leafwgerry: open Adept, in the search field type "-doc" (without the "") and then see which help you need, depending on which application you want the help (the doc=documentation) for.10:21
rysiek|plargh10:21
alleegerry: adept is still developed heavily10:21
rysiek|plnot -dev but -doc of course10:21
leafwrysiek|pl: the -dev is the header files, not the docs10:21
leafwthere10:21
rysiek|plyeah, I know10:21
rysiek|pltypo :/10:21
alleegerry: the time it needs to write a manual, one it's already out of date10:21
Enlight_unihell kopete is really cute!10:21
rysiek|plno it's not! Kadu is really cute! :] 10:22
Enlight_unileafw: thanks for the info!10:22
Elroodmay i ask if anyone has successfully set up ubuntu with a prism2-based usb-wlan adapter?10:22
bipolarWell... I guess I need to write some things.10:23
leafwbipolar: train a person. Make that person train someone else; you train someone else as well. Iterate.10:25
leafwThis way your time is maximized, and the training is most successful and personalized.10:25
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bipolarI want somthing that I, or anyone, can study and then get in front of people and show them.10:25
bipolarthis is not really training...10:25
bipolartraining should be one on one, I agree.10:26
leafwbipolar: when learning how to do something, the best way to learn it is to DO IT, not to talk about it.10:26
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bipolarleafw: again, this is not training. this is more advocacy then training. it's a marketing kind of thing,10:26
leafwbipolar: if that breaks the prospective learner expectations of a lazy, doozing class, so what.10:26
bipolarleafw: you are missing the point10:27
leafwmarketing works best mouth to ear. It's the same thing as one-to-one learning.10:27
leafwI am just making a free suggestion based on my experience. You take what you want from it.10:27
bipolarI did10:28
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koshleafw: I disagree, the best way to learn is to study first and then do it10:28
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koshleafw: I have seen far too many that learned to code by just doing and they reimplemtn all kinds of things in nasty ways that are built in10:29
leafwkosh: simultaneously works better for most hands-on jobs.10:29
bipolarleafw: thanks for the discuragement. you completely missed the point of what I am trying to accomplish, then bashed the idea from your crooked point of view.10:29
gerryright, well thanks for t he help10:29
gerryeven tohough it leaves me hanging ;)10:29
leafwcrooked point of view? Now that's recreative critique.10:30
leafwtype an /ignore, bipolar.10:30
koshI agree that you can't learn without doing, however I also don't think you can learn without studying the manuals10:30
gerryaight bye10:30
kosheither one alone produces horrible results10:30
bipolarI've got 20 or so people who keep hearing about linux and are tired of windows. I need to introduce them to what Linux can do in a group enviroment. this is not "training".10:31
leafwkosh: learning by doing usually involves reading lots of manuals when you get stuck. Having someone next to you to point out "trivial" issues speeds up the process enormously.10:31
koshbipolar: why not set up some kind of demo to show them?10:31
leafwextreme programming works like that as well.10:31
koshbipolar: find the stuff they are doing now and show them how to do the same kind of stuff in linux and show off some new things they can do10:31
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bipolarkosh: Some kind of impress presentation perhaps. that was a part of my idea. but I also have to give them an introduction to linux in general. a 10K ft. overview of sorts.10:32
leafwkosh: I would rather show what they need not to do, for example saving compulsively to prevent data lossage when the machine decides to reboot.10:32
koshleafw: it is not just about getting stuck, for instance I have seen people write code in python like for i in range(len(seq)):  item = seq[i]   dosomething(item)   since that translated to how they did it in c, however that is ugly and far slower by comparison to for item in seq: dosomething(item)10:32
koshleafw: why not have your editor do a continuous save?10:33
leafwkosh: why, some editors do a continuous save10:33
koshbipolar: I have to admit I would not use a presentation program, I would just do the presentation directly with the software you are trying to show of10:34
leafwthat was just an example, illustrating that the benefits are not so much, in my opinion, on the new features of kde versus windows, but rather ,the lack of missfeatures and bugs.10:34
bipolarkosh: yeah. the presentation software would be more for the 10k ft. overview. :)10:34
koshleafw: I don't see how your comment works with my comment on just having the editor do continous save10:34
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leafwkosh: forget it, it was just an example.10:35
Datsunzosohello :D10:35
bipolarleafw: you don't sell people by telling them how much better you are. it doesn't work that way. they are already looking for an alternitive. just need to show them.10:35
rysiek|plhi10:35
koshwe have sold many people based on how much better our software is10:36
leafwbipolar: you asked for ideas and views, there.10:36
bipolarwhatever I create, I'll post it for public review.10:36
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bipolarkosh: I misworded that.... the insecrure/crashing thing is what I was refering too, not features/ease of use.10:37
koshactually most of our contracts now are coming from referals based on people using our sotware and showing it to others they work with who buy it also10:37
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bipolarkosh: yes, I beleve that.10:38
bipolarbasicly, it's better to show your own products in thier own spotlight, rather then putting a spotlight on your copetitor's flaws. I think thats a better way of putting it...10:39
koshwe don't have to compare to the competitors, our customers have already used the competitors and can make the comparison themselves :)10:40
DatsunzosoGotta question, sometimes i keep gettin asked my password, how can i do it so that it wont ask me the pw all the time?10:40
bipolarkosh: *exactly*10:41
bipolarkosh: you got my point. This is why I need help. somtimes I can't put my thoughts into words as well as I like :P10:41
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bipolarand these people are even better, they are looking for something to switch to :)10:42
DatsunzosoYO, hello :(10:42
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Datsunzosohow can i locate an mp3 player on kubuntu?10:42
bipolarDatsunzoso: what is it asking your password for? it should only be asking that if it needs to do somthing with root privledges.10:43
Datsunzosoya i was being asked for .,... i forgot lol10:43
Datsunzosonot important now10:43
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Datsunzosoi just wanna know how i can get linux to notice my mp3 player10:44
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ChaniDatsunzoso: depends on the mp3 player itself. some show up as a usb device10:44
bipolarDatsunzoso: you mean you want to play mp3's in Kubuntu, or you have an mp3 playing device you want to load up with music (like an ipod)10:44
Datsunzosook how do i find it than??10:44
Chanisome use other weird stuff.10:44
Chanisome don't work at all10:44
Datsunzosoi have an mp3 player device that i wont to transfer music from10:45
Datsunzosoi wanna get the mp3's off it onto linux10:45
bipolarDatsunzoso: ah... ok. what device?10:45
ChaniDatsunzoso: find the name of your mp3 player, google that & linux10:45
Datsunzosowow.....10:45
Datsunzosolol10:45
Datsunzoso:*(10:45
Chanihardware isn't consistent10:46
bipolarDatsunzoso: what mp3 player do you have?10:46
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Datsunzosoya ive found that out the hard way :\10:46
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Datsunzosoits a creeeative nomad jukebox zen xtra10:46
bipolaroh. that should work.10:46
ChaniDatsunzoso: have you tried just plugging it in?10:48
Chaniit might show up as a usb device10:48
Datsunzosoi did plug it in10:49
Datsunzosoim wondering how i can get linux to notice it10:49
ChaniGoogle Is Your Friend.10:49
Chanihttp://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:QKqelbNeHPEJ:gnomad2.sourceforge.net/+creative+nomad+jukebox+zen+xtra+linux&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=110:49
Datsunzosoi found that too chani10:49
Datsunzosoim gonna use that10:49
Datsunzosobut lol this is my first day with linux so i feel like a idiot10:50
bipolarI wonder if Amarok will work with it.10:50
Datsunzosoim trying that10:50
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Datsunzosobut i dont know were to look for it10:50
Datsunzosolike is there a way were ammarock will notice it?10:50
Chanihmmmm.10:50
bipolarDatsunzoso: just for kicks, plug it in, then look in the media devices tab in Amarok10:50
Enlight_uniDatsunzoso: the biggest difference with windows is that when you fell like an idiot, you can change this feeling quickly ;o)10:51
Datsunzosoi tried the connect10:52
Datsunzosobut didnt work10:52
bipolarDatsunzoso: yeah, there are usualy lots of people here that can help you.10:52
Datsunzosoyea ive noticed that10:52
bipolarDatsunzoso: ok. try looking in kinfocenter under usb to see if it shows it.10:52
Datsunzosokinfocenter. k10:53
bipolarK > System > KInfoCenter.10:53
Chani"older devices, and all Jukebox models use a custom protocol named PDE (Portable Digital Entertainment) that require special USB drivers. Future versions in the Creative Zen line exclusively uses Microsoft's Media Transfer Protocol (also known as "PlaysForSure"), and some legacy devices have been supplied with firmware upgrades to support MTP."10:53
bipolarbah!10:53
Datsunzosocaca10:53
bipolarCreative do some boneheaded things sometimes :P10:54
Chaniyah10:54
ChaniI thin with MTP you have to pretend it's a digital camera or something10:54
koshthe micro zen device just uses usb mass storage10:54
koshno special drivers of any kind for any system10:54
Chanianyways... Datsunzoso: have you installed that gnomad proggy?10:55
Datsunzoso.... kik k>sytem> kinfocenter.... lol que????10:55
bipolarDatsunzoso: the "K" menu (like windows Start)10:55
Datsunzosoi c10:55
bipolarDatsunzoso: bottom left hand corner.10:55
Datsunzosooh lool10:55
bipolarDatsunzoso: :)10:55
Datsunzosoyea i got it oipen no w lol10:55
Datsunzosook located10:56
Datsunzosobut how do i check whats inside the mp3 player10:56
bipolarDatsunzoso: thats just to check and see if kubuntu sees something plugged in.10:56
bipolarDatsunzoso: does the player show up in the usb menu?10:56
Datsunzosook10:57
Datsunzosoyea its in the usb menu10:57
bipolargood. what is it showing as?10:57
Datsunzosonomad jukebox zen xtra10:57
bipolarcool.10:57
bipolarmaybe you just need that app to access it then.10:58
Datsunzosoyea10:58
bipolarmaybe it's in apt already10:58
Datsunzosognomad10:58
Datsunzosoi think i gotta dll it10:58
bipolartry this...10:59
bipolaropen up a terminal (don't be scared :)10:59
bipolarK > System > Konsole10:59
Datsunzosohehe ive had my run in with it10:59
bipolarsudo apt-get install gnomad2 << type that in and hit enter.11:00
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epzthi11:01
bipolarhi11:01
epztsince I installed kubuntu, the red light of hard disk activity is allways on as the disks were allways in acces11:01
epztcurious no ?11:02
bipolarepzt: hmmm....11:02
epztyes....11:02
bipolarhow long has it been doing this?11:03
bipolarDatsunzoso: did it install?11:03
Datsunzosoit said couldnt find pakage gnomad 211:04
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bipolarDatsunzoso: no space between gnomad and 2, right?11:04
Datsunzosonope11:04
bipolarcrap... wait... maybe you don't have the repos all set up...11:04
epztsince the beginning11:04
Datsunzosoprob dont11:05
Datsunzoso... idk what that is lol11:05
bipolarguys.... is there a user friendly way of enabling the universe repos in kubuntu?11:05
bipolarepzt: how long has that been? just today? two days? a week?11:05
epztsince I installed kubuntu11:06
bipolarepzt: yes. how long has it been since you installed kubuntu?11:06
epzt2 weeks11:06
bipolarepzt: how much RAM does the machine have?11:06
epzt1 Gb11:07
Datsunzosodamn!11:07
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bipolarepzt: then it shouldn't be swaping....11:07
bipolarepzt: I don't know what's causing that....11:07
epztwith 1 Giga bytes ??!11:07
bipolarepzt: i said it *shouldn't* be swaping.11:07
koshheh I swapped badly at one, upgraded to two and now I am going to upgrade to 8 but that is because of what I am doing11:08
bipolaras in "should not"11:08
epztsorry :)11:08
bipolar:)11:08
bipolarepzt: sorry... I'm at a loss.11:08
_JohnFluxGb is gigabit ;)11:08
epztok, GB;)11:09
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Datsunzososo still no lucK :(11:09
_JohnFluxepzt: where is the memory going?11:09
bipolarDatsunzoso: ok. I don't know how to do this without using a text editor, so here it goes....11:09
_JohnFluxepzt: use gnome task manager11:09
_JohnFluxepzt: see where the memory is being used11:09
bipolarDatsunzoso: run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"11:10
epztok, I check11:10
Datsunzosok11:10
_JohnFluxepzt: ksysguard isn't very good for checking memory allocation unfortunetly11:11
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bipolarDatsunzoso: scroll down to where it mentons the "universe" repositorys11:11
JohnFluxah better11:11
bipolarDatsunzoso: you will see lines that start with "deb", these are the lines that define where apt goes to look for software packages.11:11
bipolarDatsunzoso: If there are #'s in front of them, that means they are disabled.11:12
bipolarDatsunzoso: so take a look and see if the universe repo is disabled. if it is, remove the # in front of "deb" for that line. then press ctrl+o to save, and ctrl+x to exit.11:13
Datsunzoso!!11:13
ubotuHuh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Datsunzoso11:13
bipolarDatsunzoso: I know... it's a PITA.11:13
bipolarDatsunzoso: I think there is a more user friendly way to do it, but I'm an old hack who lives on the command line.11:14
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bipolarDatsunzoso: if you are not confortable with it, I'll try to find out11:14
Flosoft_2hey11:14
epztthere is nothink specific. there is no swap allocation11:14
Flosoft_2I just updated my Kubuntu11:14
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Flosoft_2now the network card doesn't work11:14
Flosoft_2:S11:14
epztswap is empty11:14
Flosoft_2No such device and Failed to bring up eth011:15
Flosoft_2but it is a onboard card ?11:15
Flosoft_2on breezy it worked without any problem11:16
JohnFluxFlosoft_2: run dmesg  and look for eth011:16
bipolaris adapt in breezy?11:16
Flosoft_2nothing :S11:16
JohnFluxFlosoft_2: for some reason the kernel didn't see it then11:17
Flosoft_2hmm11:17
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ICXCNIKAHi. I just downloaded kubuntu. Does kubuntu have any desktop themes like windows?11:18
Flosoft_2well why can't Kubuntu find my card anymore?11:18
Flosoft_2KDE11:18
Datsunzosowell i think i got it11:18
Datsunzosoi follwed what u said11:18
bipolarDatsunzoso: the issue is that the program you need is in the "universe" repository, since it's not offialy supported. that repo, full of great but unsupported software, is not enabled by default.11:18
Datsunzosodeleted the #311:18
Flosoft_2look in styles for Redmon11:18
Flosoft_2d11:18
Dasnipa`ICXCNIKA, themes are the job of the desktop manager not of the distro... KDE however does have themes they are in the system settings11:19
bipolarDatsunzoso: ok. now run 'sudo apt-get update' then try 'sudo apt-get install gnomad2'11:19
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Datsunzosostill couldnt find :*(11:19
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bipolardang11:20
Flosoft_2anyone?11:20
luboHello kubuntu comunity..11:20
Flosoft_2I need my network card depsreatly11:20
Flosoft_2*desperatly11:20
JohnFluxFlosoft_2: ah the need for internet porn11:20
JohnFlux:)11:20
bipolarlol11:20
Flosoft_2lol11:20
chxanyone tried to run Kubuntu off a 1 gig disk drive?11:20
Flosoft_2no ... I got a Windows Pc for that :p11:21
Flosoft_2chx: Impossible11:21
Datsunzosobah!11:21
JohnFluxchx: isn't there a live cd11:21
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lubocan anyone tell me how to change locales? and UTC time zone...please11:22
Flosoft_2how can I fix my card?11:22
Flosoft_2it should be connected11:22
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chxyou know , I am eyeing these cheap 1 gig CF cards.... would make a boost for noise -- how could anything be more silent than a flash storage? :)11:23
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bipolarI need a reverse ssh so that I can log into noob's pc's and fix little issues like this...11:23
rysiek|plI repeat my question: why doesn't dpkg-reconfigure include the modules listed in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules?11:24
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crimsunrysiek|pl: what are you passing to dpkg-reconfigure?11:24
crimsunin dapper, the only three packages whose postinst will regenerate the initramfs are linux-image-$(uname -r), udev, and mkinitramfs11:25
rysiek|pllinux-image-$(uname -r)11:25
crimsuns/mkinitramfs/initramfs-tools/11:26
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rysiek|pl?11:26
crimsun(I mistyped the package name)11:27
rysiek|plah11:27
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rysiek|plwell, any ideas? everytime I boot with vga=791 I get insmod complaining about being unable to load vesafb.ko - "no such file or directory"11:28
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rysiek|plI have checked that and on my root filesystem the file exists allright11:28
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JohnFluxrysiek|pl: using initrd ?11:29
rysiek|plhence the idea that it has to be included in the initrd - but dpkg-reconfigure doesn't seem to want to be helpful and co-operative ;)11:29
ICXCNIKADoes anyone have any information on getting the WLAN 1300 Wireless card to work with Kubuntu? Something about using ndiswrapper?11:29
Andreshy, how re tou11:29
Andresyou11:29
Andresi'm new using linux,11:29
ICXCNIKAAs am I Andres.11:29
rysiek|plJohnFlux: well, using standard Kubuntu Breezy 5.10 settings11:29
Andresyea?11:30
Andresi wanna ask a question11:30
Andreswhy i can't enter to KDE like root?11:30
rysiek|plmkinitrd.conf doesn't change anything, but initramfs.conf does (tested with the RESUME setting)11:30
rysiek|plAndres: what for?11:31
bipolarDatsunzoso: The package is definatly in breezy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/gnomad211:31
rysiek|plyou don't need to login as root11:31
Andresmay be, but i need to move some files, for example, aMSN skins11:31
rysiek|plto KDE that is - and it's a security and system integrity danger11:31
Andresand is better if i can do it by a visual way11:31
rysiek|plAndres: run kdesu konqueror11:31
rysiek|plfrom konsole11:32
Andresok11:32
rysiek|plor use "Run as root" KMenu option11:32
Datsunzosoohhh thanks11:32
epztmsg nickserv set hide email on11:32
Andresthanks11:32
Datsunzosook... what do i do wwith that?11:32
rysiek|plwell, anybody any ideas on dpkg-reconfigure?11:33
Andresi could enter!11:33
epztoops :)11:33
frank23!tell Andres about rootsudo11:33
Andreswhat's rootsudo?11:33
frank23Andres: Check the link the bot sent you. In ubuntu the root account is deactivated11:34
Andresyeah, i checked it11:34
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Datsunzosoahh!11:34
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Andresbut everything is ok, with the command kdesu i could solve all my problems11:35
kingpombamorning everyone11:35
Andresand another question: somebody speak spanish?11:35
Andresbecause my english is poor11:36
kingpombanot me11:36
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Andresok, i'll continue writing in english11:36
Andresdo you know where i can find a good Linux manual for newbies?11:37
bipolarDatsunzoso: I'm just saying that when the universe repo gets enabled, you will be able to install it with 'sudo apt-get install gnomad2'11:37
frank23!es11:38
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:38
tarmath!ja11:38
ubotuMy cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tarmath11:38
kingpomba!hi11:38
ubotuhi!11:38
frank23Andres: for ubuntu I would suggest the wiki to start off11:38
Flosoft_2why doesn't my network card work anymore?11:38
tarmaththe heck is that site11:39
bipolarDatsunzoso: read this: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#add-repositories11:39
Andresok11:39
Andresthanks11:39
Andresi will11:39
bipolarDatsunzoso: that will walk you though it.11:40
ICXCNIKADoes anyone have any information on getting the WLAN 1300 Wireless card to work with Kubuntu? Something about using ndiswrapper?11:40
rysiek|plICXCNIKA: no idea. try the Wiki11:41
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frank23!tell ICXCNIKA about wifi11:41
frank23ICXCNIKA: umm that might not be the best page, I don't know11:42
ICXCNIKAIt doesn't seem to help much.11:43
ICXCNIKASomeone told me to use ndiswrapper.11:43
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Flosoft_2why don't onboard network cards work anymore on the new Dapper?11:44
frank23Flosoft_2: probably because Dapper is not ready for release11:45
Flosoft_2but generally that should work11:45
frank23Flosoft_2: at release everything that used to work *should* work11:46
Flosoft_2hmm11:46
Flosoft_2do Realtek Cards work?11:46
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