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=== Topic for #kubuntu: congrats to robotgeek and Hobbsee on membership | Amarok 1.4 beta 1, KDE 3.5.1, KOffice 1.5 beta out (kword now fixed) | Breezy fixes in breezy-updates | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de | Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com | IRC info and channels in other languages: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InternetRelayChat
=== Topic (#kubuntu): set by Riddell at Tue Feb 21 22:14:06 2006
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(Dasnipa`/#kubuntu) hoorah12:12
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(Datsunzoso/#kubuntu) why r ppl leaving and entering this server12:12
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(Datsunzoso/#kubuntu) wtf!12:12
(Datsunzoso/#kubuntu) lol12:12
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(Datsunzoso/#kubuntu) thta didnt work12:12
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DatsunzosoWOW!12:12
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Datsunzosook12:13
Datsunzososo that doesnt work12:13
arrinmurrDatsunzoso: netsplit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit12:13
Datsunzosois it that the program just doesnt feel like working?12:13
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Datsunzosodid i somehow piss the linux gods off?12:13
arrinmurrDatsunzoso: so it says nothing in the terminal when you try to run it?12:13
Datsunzosoque is the terminal?12:13
arrinmurrDatsunzoso: press alt+f2 -> type "konsole", konsole pops up, type the name of the program you're trying to use there12:14
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bipolarbah12:16
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Datsunzosoyea i did that12:16
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arrinmurrDatsunzoso: and? no error messages?12:16
Datsunzosowell i out gnomad2 and it shows the little icon for it, than it beginds to load but never actually runs12:16
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Datsunzosowell no not that i know of12:16
bipolarDatsunzoso: it's not running down in the notification area, is it?12:16
bipolarown near the clock?12:17
Datsunzosowere is that?12:17
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Datsunzoso?12:17
Datsunzosowere is that12:17
bipolarI'm going to install it myself... one mon12:17
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Flosoft_2how can I reconfigure my network cards?12:18
Datsunzosomierda esta12:19
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bipolarDatsunzoso: heh... it's crashing. probbly for you too.12:19
calliebit of a general question here, but i'm thinking of upgrading a bit and i'm finding all these 64 bit chips a bit confusing, there's so many of them and a few different socket types too. i love my Athlon so im thinking of sticking with AMD any tips from anyone would be appreciated12:19
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bipolarcrap12:19
calliedamn i said 'bit' a lot there12:19
Datsunzosoits crashing? lol so im not the only guy with the prob lol12:19
Datsunzosowell how do i kick the hell outta it so it doesnt crash lol12:20
callieshoota puta!12:20
bipolarDatsunzoso: nope. when i run it from the konsole it tells me it's segfaulting.12:20
Datsunzoso... hah12:20
Dasnipa`callie, last i heard what you want the 939 pin preferably12:20
Datsunzososo theres no way of getting it to run :(12:20
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callieDasnipa`, im guessing thats probably the most expensive one too ;(12:20
bipolarDatsunzoso: there is a bug somewhere that's making it crash12:20
Dasnipa`callie, actually not12:21
callieDasnipa`, Cool! even better12:21
Dasnipa`callie, i think their 939 pin is just the most fleshed out series of procs the other one is like extreme12:21
Datsunzososo is there anyway that will allow it to work12:21
bipolarDatsunzoso: ok. i ran it again and it loaded.12:21
Datsunzoso???????!!!!!! it loaded for u?12:22
bipolarDatsunzoso: in konsole, type in 'gnomad2' and hit enter12:22
Datsunzosognomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomeui-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:22
Datsunzoso...12:22
Datsunzosodamn i think im a total n00b12:22
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bipolaryou didn't install it with apt, did you....12:22
Datsunzoso!?!12:23
ubotuDatsunzoso: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:23
Datsunzosoi guess not12:23
Tm_Thuoh12:23
bipolarlol12:23
Datsunzosoi thought i did12:23
callieDasnipa`, cool, and another question, i've had a lot of bad luck with mobos in the past could you recommend a good manufacturer, i always just get the one which i can afford, which seems to end up costing me more in the long run12:23
Datsunzosolol12:23
Datsunzosowow w00t12:23
Datsunzosook someone show me! lol srry guys12:23
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bipolarDatsunzoso: do this.... in konsole 'apt-get install --force-reinstall gnomad2'12:23
bipolarpoop... thats not it12:24
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Datsunzosoinvalid opp12:24
Dasnipa`callie, hrm... id say your best bet is to once you choose a proc, look up reviews of mobos for that socket type12:24
bipolarDatsunzoso: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnomad212:24
callieDasnipa`, i will do im just wandering which companies have a good track record12:24
Datsunzosowow12:25
Datsunzoso"invaild opperation install"12:25
frank23Datsunzoso: is this gnomad2 from a ubuntu repository?12:25
bipolarDatsunzoso: ot12:25
bipolarDatsunzoso: I thnk you mistyped something12:25
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Datsunzosohow did i do that? lol12:26
Datsunzosowait..12:26
Dasnipa`callie, oh btw... the athlon 64 x2 series is the one i was referring to... those are 939 pins, dual core and reasonable price12:26
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callieDasnipa`, the cheapest dual core i've seen is 35012:27
Datsunzosoi did what u said bipolar12:27
Datsunzosostill nothing12:27
bipolarDatsunzoso: what did that command give you?12:27
bipolarDatsunzoso: it should have reinstalled gnomad212:28
Dasnipa`callie, newegg has one for 300 american which is probably like 200-250 eur12:28
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Datsunzosoi tihink it did reinstall it12:28
bipolarDatsunzoso: ok. and when you type in 'gnomad2' in konsole does it still give you that error?12:29
Datsunzosoit says "reading pakage lists.... done            you might  want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:   the following pakages have unmet dependecies12:29
Datsunzosoand it gives the pakages12:29
bipolarah ha!12:29
bipolarDatsunzoso: run 'sudo apt-get -f install'12:29
Datsunzosodoing it12:29
Dasnipa`callie, oh an for mobo... asus is the one i hear about most often from friends building computers12:29
Datsunzosook its done12:30
Datsunzosotry now?12:30
bipolaryeah12:30
Datsunzosook12:30
Datsunzosoit runs now12:30
callie300$ is still 170 but thats definitely a large reduction Dasnipa`12:30
bipolarcool12:30
bipolarDatsunzoso: does it see the nomad?12:30
Datsunzosonow it says "could not open jukebox: usb_set_configuration: operation not permitted12:31
Datsunzosolol wave upon problem12:31
bipolarbah!12:31
Datsunzosoi have pissed the windows gods off12:31
Datsunzosolol12:31
bipolarok. close it.12:31
Psi-JackHey guys. I need help with something. resolvconf keeps screwing up my /etc/resolv.conf. Why, and how do I fix it?12:31
Datsunzosoclosed12:31
bipolartry running it as root, just for giggles. 'sudo gnomad2'12:31
Datsunzosocrap12:32
Datsunzosogot it working12:32
Datsunzosow00t12:32
DatsunzosoI <3 you12:32
bipolarhmmm.... it shouldn't need ot be run as root.12:32
bipolarbut... if it works.12:32
bipolardoes it see the nomad?12:32
Psi-JackHmmm.12:33
Psi-JackAnyone ever took a good look at <3, and devised that it could also possibly look like a piece of ass? :)12:33
SkrotFFSSame as (i), MSN emoticon shortcut for a heart looks like something rather different when you don't have support for emoticons..12:34
Datsunzosook well im moving all the files now12:34
Datsunzosoit does see nomad12:34
bipolarDatsunzoso: I think I have a fix for that problem too12:35
Datsunzososeems to be goin pretty fast too12:35
Psi-JackSkrotFFS: Heh12:35
bipolarsudo gedit /etc/hotplug/usb/nomadjukebox12:35
bipolar #change DEVICEPERMS=0600 --> DEVICEPERMS=0666 and reconnect device12:35
Datsunzoso0666, SATAN!12:35
bipolarDatsunzoso: thats from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3304012:35
Datsunzosolol12:35
bipolarDatsunzoso: :)12:35
Datsunzosowow bipolar, ur extremly knowledgable in this12:35
Datsunzosobig help12:35
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bipolarDatsunzoso: I've been a linux user/admin for 12 years12:35
Datsunzosow0w.12:36
Datsunzosothat explains it12:36
Datsunzosolol12:36
bipolarDatsunzoso: heh12:36
Datsunzosoill be there in now time lol12:36
Psi-JackHmm. Still gotcha beat, bipolar. ;)12:36
bipolarDatsunzoso: I started when I was 14. now you know how old I am :P12:36
bipolarPsi-Jack: you're not the only one, I'm sure :)12:36
Datsunzoso26 lol12:36
Datsunzosowell im 1712:36
Datsunzosowwwanted to try somethin new12:37
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bipolarthats as good a reason as any :)12:37
bipolarPsi-Jack: how long have you been at it?12:37
Psi-Jackbipolar: How about this. Do you know resolvconf?12:37
Datsunzosowait i just got something12:37
Datsunzoso# is like comment right?12:37
Psi-Jackbipolar: Roughly 18 years12:38
Psi-JackBut, that's not just Linux, of course.12:38
nxv_hi, a friend told me there is a option in kde/konqueror to repeat reading a cd when ripping till it is perfect. for this option i always used cdparanoia. i would be happy to use such feature under kde but can't find the switch/option.12:38
bipolarPsi-Jack: resolvconf is a debian package. I've not used it directly.12:38
Psi-Jackbipolar: Hmm.. Well, something on one of my servers depended on it, for some awful reason, and it's screwing everything up. heh12:39
bipolarDatsunzoso: usualy, yes, # starts a comment line.12:39
Datsunzosocool12:39
Datsunzosough.... what do you guys perfer, kubuntu or ubuntu?12:40
Psi-JackDatsunzoso: They're the same.12:40
bipolarDatsunzoso: It's the diffreence between KDE and Gnome.12:40
Psi-JackThe ONLY difference is what DE is pre-installed at installation. That's it.12:40
bipolarDatsunzoso: I like kde better, so I use kubuntu. but the packages are all in the same repo.12:40
Psi-JackThat, and Kubuntu makes specific adjustments, which is still available in Ubuntu/Kubuntu the same.12:41
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Datsunzoso> Hentai^XP has joined this channel. (n=justin@202.131.164.87.cmts2.guam.net)12:42
DatsunzosoLOL!12:42
Datsunzosohentai hahah pervs12:42
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Pyrobobum... my friend was beong stupid and downloaded xpenguin12:42
Pyroboband now I got alot of annoying penguins allover the screen12:42
Pyrobobhow do I close it?12:42
bipolarhahaha12:42
Psi-Jackkillall xpenguin12:42
tarmathkillall xpenguin12:42
neoncodeWhat were the penquin libiration front ubuntu apt repos? The addresses I mean12:42
Psi-Jacktarmath: Just a hair too slow. ;)12:42
Psi-Jack!source-o-matic12:43
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:43
tarmathpsi-jack: im always right on time. you were too fast.12:43
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Psi-Jackneoncode: There.12:43
tarmath:P12:43
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Pyrobobit says no process killed12:43
Psi-Jacktarmath: Oh no. I was precisely on-time. :D12:43
bipolarjeez... I forgot all about source-o-matic.... that could have helped Datsunzoso12:43
Datsunzosoafter i dump all the mp3s onto the pc, im gonna have a stab at install firefox12:43
Psi-JackOh. Fricken-A.12:44
Pyroboboh stupid me lol12:44
Datsunzosothat will be fun lol ahhaha12:44
Psi-Jackresolvconf is gone. The puny bastage pain in the arse.12:44
Pyrobobmisspelt penguin12:44
neoncodePsi-Jack: Thank you12:44
Datsunzosois sourceomatic easier?12:44
bipolarDatsunzoso: use Konq if you are using kde. :)12:44
Psi-JackAnd guys..12:44
Psi-JackDon't keep non-official repositories active at all times. You could be very dissapointed.12:45
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Pyrobobis there a free (non-trial) version of Crossover Office?12:45
tarmathhmm, while the channel is lively, Ive got a lil question... is there any app or whatever that should be used to modify the symlinks in /etc/alternatives/ or I can go for it manually without fearing to break anything?12:46
Psi-JackPyrobob: No12:46
PyrobobDx12:46
Psi-JackDx?12:46
tarmathDx12:46
Psi-JackWHat the fsck does Dx mean?12:46
tarmathyou tell me12:46
Pyrobobkinda like12:47
Pyrobobdamn12:47
Psi-JackPyrobob: Define: Dx12:47
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Pyrobobjust in a little smiley12:47
Pyrobobthing12:47
PyrobobD = mouth12:47
Pyrobobx = eyes12:47
PyrobobDx12:47
Psi-JackEyes go before the mouth! Don't you know anything?> :)12:47
Pyrobobwhen happy they do12:47
Pyrobob...<_<12:48
Pyrobobwhen mad its the mouth before eyes12:48
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Pyrobobduh12:48
tarmathright.12:48
Pyrobobyep12:48
Pyrobobo.o12:48
Psi-JackSo, you mean, :x isn't an angry expression?12:48
bipolarlol12:48
Pyrobobthats more like "lips are sealed"12:48
Pyrobobor "didn't mean that"12:48
Pyrobobdepending on the situation12:48
bipolaror "kisses"12:48
bipolarhahaha12:48
Psi-JackDidn't mean that is more like :O12:49
Psi-JackOr :&12:49
Pyrobob:0 is like "OMG"12:49
Pyrobob*is a forum nerd*12:49
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tarmath:O could be misinterpreted12:49
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Psi-Jacktarmath: So could :O<==12:49
tarmathwell, now it looks like the O is the nose, and under it there's a mustache...12:50
Borelia<( 0 )> interpent this please :)12:50
Pyrobobits kirby12:50
Pyrobobsucking in somthing12:50
Pyrobob...12:50
Psi-Jacktarmath: That was definately no mustache. :)12:51
Pyrobobso Psu-Jack you were thinking more like :O (|===12:51
Pyrobob?12:51
Pyrobobpsi*12:51
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Psi-JackPyrobob: Or better. :O(|==812:51
callieahem12:51
Pyrobob....12:51
Borelia{( o) ] 12:51
PyrobobxD12:51
PyrobobBorelia, what is that?12:52
Boreliaw8 im improving12:52
tarmaththis is getting a little bit out of control12:52
Pyrobobyeah it is12:52
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Psi-JackHehe, yeah.12:52
PyrobobI am just flat out curious though. is anyone here working on project DS linux?12:53
PyrobobI take that a sa no12:53
Pyrobobas a*12:53
tarmathnintendo DS?12:54
Pyrobobyeah12:54
Pyrobobthere's a project called DSL (DSLinux) that is working on installing linux on a DS12:54
Pyrobobits gotten so far as to get it on there, but no graphical interface12:54
Pyrobobits right now still all command-line - y12:54
Psi-JackMan, MyDNS is so sexy, though. I've been looking for a good, reliable, little SQL-backed DNS server, and MyDNS definately fills that catagory very nicely. Just needs a better web-based admin tool for it.12:54
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PyrobobI know12:55
Pyrobobi hate pie12:55
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Datsunzosowow im hungry12:55
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PyrobobxP12:56
Psi-JackDatsunzoso: Eat, grasshoppa.12:56
Datsunzosoall this anger to frustration to happpiness has taken a toll on my body12:56
Datsunzosobrb i  think we got some human meat around here, RAWR!12:56
Psi-JackDatsunzoso: Even a pure geek, must fill nurishment to the body, mind and what-nots.12:56
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Datsunzosotru12:57
Datsunzosoi gotta boston creme donut, some brownies and apple juice12:57
CaptainbrailleHow do I delete files in "/var/cache/apt/archives"12:57
Datsunzosoits all i had in my house12:57
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Datsunzosohavnt gone to buy any food lately12:58
Psi-JackSeriously, though. MyDNS has something other DNS servers's don't have. ALIAS records, that instead of CNAME's, having to externally produce multiple queries, ALIAS records, instead, internally query for the A record of the ALIAS entry pointing to, and returns an A, or AAAA record instead.12:58
Sonico.o12:58
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Sonicwas supposed to be somthing else, but it cut it off12:58
bipolarCaptainbraille: apt-get clean, iirc12:58
Sonic-_-12:58
Captainbraillethanks bipolar, what does iirc mean?12:58
Psi-JackIIRC == If I Recall Correctly.12:59
Captainbraillelol12:59
Captainbraillehey it's working!12:59
Psi-JackWell, then apparently, bipolar recalled correctly. ;)12:59
CaptainbrailleLoL12:59
Psi-Jackautoclean will clean out the older stuff, if present, keeping the current.01:00
Datsunzosoi cant wait till i get to listen to my music on amarock01:00
CaptainbrailleOhh, okay01:00
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CaptainbraillePsi-Jack:do you use wine?01:01
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Psi-JackSometimes.01:02
Datsunzosowell transfereing over 6gb of music onto the pc drained the mp3 players battery01:02
Psi-JackI mostly use vmware player to run Windows 2000, though/01:02
Pyrobobiwill Wine run iTunes?01:02
Captainbraillevmware, yeah? Mind if I ask why you use it more?01:02
Psi-JackEwwwwww01:02
Psi-JackiTunes? Why would ANYONE want to run that ?01:02
PyrobobI got hacks for it01:03
Pyrobobthat I found01:03
Psi-JackCaptainbraille: Because it runs Windows, in a Window.01:03
Pyrobobto get free songs from the network your on01:03
Dasnipa`lol h4x for itunes...01:03
Psi-JackPyrobob: Oh, more reason not to help. :;01:03
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Pyrobobso when I finally get to college I can have01:03
Pyrobobliterally have thousands of free songs at my disposal...01:03
Psi-JackPyrobob: All I can say is. Just shut it. :p01:04
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Psi-JackThank you.01:04
Pyrobobmmhmm01:04
Captainbraillelol01:04
Psi-JackI'm pro anti-piracy, mind you.01:04
Datsunzosocaca01:04
Pyrobobtechnically its not piracy01:04
Pyrobobits using loopholes to an advantage01:04
Psi-JackPyrobob: Technically, theft of other's property is piracy.01:05
Datsunzosodoes amaroK play mp3's?01:05
Psi-JackDatsunzoso: Yes.01:05
Datsunzosowell why doesnt it :(01:05
Pyrobob...01:05
Psi-JackDatsunzoso: Get the xine amarok engine.01:05
Psi-Jackgstreamer sucks. :)01:05
tarmathhmm vmplayer is free, right? but you've got to have the real thing to actually make the vm, am i correct?01:05
Datsunzosoxine ... were that at mon01:05
Psi-Jacktarmath: Correct.01:06
bipolarPsi-Jack: bah! gstreamer is fine :P01:06
Pyrobobxine... isn't that in the repos?01:06
Psi-Jacktarmath: I'm licensed for VMWare Workstation, I just prefer the lightness the player-only has.01:06
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Psi-JackPyrobob: Yes01:06
Datsunzososo how do i solve my little conundrum?01:06
Captainbraillebipolar Psi-Jack: thanks for the help!01:07
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Psi-Jackbipolar: No, gstreamer is the suck of all suck.01:07
Psi-JackGreat idea, mind you, just HORRIBLY implemented.01:07
tarmathpsi-jack: do you notice any slowdown when you run it? does it take allot of cpu?01:07
Datsunzososo anyone wanna help me lol01:07
bipolarPsi-Jack: and xine is the hack of all hacks. :P01:07
Psi-Jacktarmath: Xine, or gstreamer?01:07
Datsunzoso....01:07
Datsunzosoahhhhh~!01:07
tarmathpsi-jack: vmplayer01:07
Psi-Jackbipolar: Not really. :)01:07
tarmathheheh01:07
bipolarPsi-Jack: is too!01:08
Psi-Jacktarmath: Ohhhhh.. Sorry. Several topics at once. Yes, it eats a lot of CPU, even still. heh01:08
bipolarlol01:08
Psi-JackThink about it. you're running a virtual machine running Windows, for crying out loud. ;}01:08
tarmathyea I sorta figured heheh01:09
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tarmathbut who knows, you could for example renice the vmplayer process to give it no priority at all by example, could you?01:09
Tallia1Kubuntuguys01:10
tarmathman what was that sentence01:10
Tallia1Kubuntui am trying to compile kfstab01:10
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Tallia1Kubuntui installed qt4 since it requires qt > 3.0.101:10
bipolartime for me to go guys. later!01:10
tarmathlates01:10
Tallia1Kubuntubut i still have this error01:10
Datsunzosocya bipolar01:10
Tallia1Kubuntuhecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.1) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!01:11
Datsunzosothanks for all ur help01:11
Psi-Jacktarmath: Yes, you can do that.01:11
tarmathtallia1kubuntu, you shouldve installed qt 3.301:11
Tallia1Kubuntui tried to use the following configure options, but i have the same problem.. am i making any error?01:11
trappistTallia1Kubuntu: it probably wants qt3.x, but you need the -dev package(s)01:11
Tallia1Kubuntu./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt4/include/ --with-qt-libraries=/usr/include/qt4/lib/01:11
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat do i have to do?01:11
Tallia1Kubuntuto get qt3.x^01:11
tarmathtallia1kubuntu, the program most likely was made for qt3, it cannot compile with qt4.01:11
trappistTallia1Kubuntu: install the *correct* qt3 packages.  the -dev packages01:12
Psi-JackTallia1Kubuntu: KDE 3.x uses Qt 3, not Qt3. KDE 4 will use Qt4.01:12
Tallia1Kubuntui see01:12
Tallia1Kubuntuwe are still in kde 3.5 right?01:12
Psi-JackAll major versions of KDE will use the same major version of Qt.01:12
Tallia1Kubuntui see01:12
Psi-Jack3.5.1 yes01:12
Tallia1Kubuntui thaught Qt was for gnome..01:12
PyrobobKDE 3.5.1?01:12
PyrobobI need to update01:12
tarmathopen adept or whichever program you install packages with, and grab the qt3 dev01:12
Pyrobob...<_<01:12
Tallia1Kubuntuanyway.. where i can find the qt3.5 package?01:12
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tarmaththere no qt 3.5!01:13
Tallia1Kubuntusorry.. misplaced number01:13
tarmathopen adept man01:13
Tallia1Kubuntuthe upped 3.x version of qt01:13
Tallia1Kubuntuupper*01:13
tarmathyou got it open now?01:13
Tallia1Kubuntuok01:14
Tallia1Kubuntuwait a sec.. i am uninstalling qt401:14
Tallia1Kubuntuin synaptics :)01:14
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Tallia1Kubuntuok01:14
tarmathnow you need libmt3-mt-dev01:14
Tallia1Kubuntuopen01:14
patrixisn't it libqt3-mt-dev01:15
tarmathyes sorry heheh01:15
Tallia1Kubuntuok01:15
Tallia1Kubuntui have filtered on libqt3 a01:16
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Datsunzosoi have xine downloaded01:16
Datsunzosoque now01:16
Tallia1Kubuntuand all the packages but libqt3-mt-sqlite and libqt3c102-mt are installed01:16
tarmathokay, there's a package that should gives you everything you need... I think thats kde-devel01:16
Tallia1Kubuntui already installed it01:16
Tallia1Kubuntufiltering on kde-devel i have it installed01:17
Tallia1Kubuntuand *-extras not installed01:17
Tallia1Kubuntutarmath: so?01:17
tarmathqt3-dev-tools?01:17
Datsunzoso:() ayuda!01:17
Datsunzosohelp pleas01:18
Tallia1Kubuntuinstalled01:18
Tallia1Kubuntualready01:18
Tallia1Kubuntutarmath: :(01:18
patrixwaht's the problem anywya?01:18
tarmathso, have you tried without the qt4 stuff you feed it01:18
userI just got kubuntu to use smp and am really pleased.  Does anyone know of a tool to monitor cpu temp?01:19
Tallia1Kubuntuyes. i just unistalled it01:19
Tallia1Kubuntuand tried01:19
Tallia1Kubuntua simple ./configure?01:19
patrixuser: try xmbmon01:19
tarmathi dont know I have never tried compiling kfstab01:19
Tallia1Kubuntuthat was my first try,..01:19
userthanks01:19
Tallia1Kubuntusame error01:19
Tallia1Kubuntutarmath: it's not about kfstab01:19
Tallia1Kubuntuit is about qt01:19
Tallia1Kubuntui have the same problem with another compilation01:20
tarmathI know it's about qt but it seems you're missing something and I dont know what01:20
tarmathcan you paste the error again?01:20
Tallia1Kubuntucouldn't be that it is searching for qt in the wrong place?01:20
tarmathit could01:21
Tallia1Kubuntumaybe a system wide variable with a wrong value01:21
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farousTallia1Kubuntu: someitmes you need to tell the configuration script where to look for your libqt and libqt-dev files01:21
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a variable to store QT position?01:21
Tallia1Kubuntufarous: what would you use in your system?01:21
patrixwhat is the error??01:21
Tallia1Kubuntuchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.1) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!01:21
Tallia1KubuntuFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.01:21
farousTallia1Kubuntu: it depends sometimes the config script will have options to specify where qt and libqt are installed sometimes i just edit the configure file01:22
tarmathsometimes QTDIR, but it depends on the application, it might be searching for it somewhere01:22
patrixhm ok01:22
Tallia1Kubuntufarous: i mean.. which are your paths?01:22
patrixI had some weird configure problems too, a few days ago01:22
farousTallia1Kubuntu: when of the easiest ways it to include it in your path never treid it but might work01:22
patrixI fixed them by installing build-essential  package01:23
Tallia1Kubuntubecause i found qt either in /usr/lib/qt3 and in /usr/include/qt3/lib01:23
farousTallia1Kubuntu: those are exactly what i have01:23
Tallia1Kubuntuwhich of them?01:23
tarmathtallia1kubuntu: forget about the first one01:23
farousbut i just put in /usr/include/qt301:23
Tallia1Kubuntuok, let me try01:23
Tallia1Kubuntucan i temporary change the path from command line?01:23
tarmathyea...01:24
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farousexport PATH=$PATH:01:24
Tallia1Kubuntui remember that i can concatenate the old one and then export01:24
Tallia1Kubuntu:)01:24
tarmathPATH=/usr/include/qt3:$PATH ./configure01:24
patrixwhyh would you put /usr/include/qt3 in your $PATH ?01:24
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patrixmakes no sense lol01:25
Tallia1Kubuntusame error01:25
tarmathlol i wasnt paying attention01:25
tarmath:P01:25
Tallia1Kubuntu?01:25
farousTallia1Kubuntu: some application need both the dev and lib paths01:25
Tallia1Kubuntuso, what should i do?01:25
farousso you need them both01:25
Tallia1Kubuntulet me try01:25
patrixhm01:25
farousi had this prob while compiling the new lyx01:25
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Tallia1Kubuntuso, /usr/lib/qt3 and /usr/include/qt3?01:26
farousya both01:26
Tallia1Kubuntusame erro01:26
patrixyeah01:26
farousbut your best bet is to edit the config file01:26
patrixhm01:26
faroustell it where to look specifically for it there01:26
patrixwhat application are you trying to compile Tallia1Kubuntu ?01:26
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Tallia1Kubuntukfstab01:27
patrixurl?01:27
Tallia1Kubuntubut it is the same with other Kcompilations01:27
Tallia1Kubuntuok01:27
patrixI'm gonna tyr it myself01:27
Tallia1Kubuntuit is in sourcefroge01:27
Tallia1Kubuntu:)01:27
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Datsunzosohey guys, i have xine on my pc, how do i get it onto amarok01:27
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://kfstab.sourceforge.net/01:28
patrixwhich version Tallia1Kubuntu ?01:28
patrixDatsunzoso: install amarok-xine then select the Xine engine in the amarok settings menu01:28
Tallia1Kubuntu701:29
Datsunzosohow do i install it though01:29
kj2006what kind of file3system would be good for a linux installation partition> ext2fs ? alternatives?01:29
kj2006and for swap partition ?01:29
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: ok downloading....01:30
Datsunzoso?01:30
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: :)01:30
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: another thing..01:30
patrixDatsunzoso: use adept, or use sudo apt-get install amarok-xine01:30
Datsunzosok01:31
patrixI get the same error as Tallia01:31
patrixinteresting01:31
patrixdidn't get this hwen I compiled a KDE app a few days ago01:31
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Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: suppose i want to maintain all the program files inside the same directory.. after i make , can i simply copy the dir somewhere and execute the program directly from inside the source compilation folder?01:31
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Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: can you help me going through this?01:31
faroushmm did you look for its conf and readme what qt lib it requires?01:32
rysiek|plkj2006: for swap it's always "swap" fs01:32
Datsunzosowtf01:32
Datsunzosoadept froze01:32
farousDatsunzoso: language01:32
Datsunzososrry...01:32
Tallia1KubuntuDatsunzoso: try to use synaptics01:32
Datsunzosolol im just suprised01:32
farousno prob01:32
kj2006thanks rysiek01:33
rysiek|plkj2006: for the installation (root) partition I'd recommend ReiserFS01:33
rysiek|plor ext301:33
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kj2006what about nfs?01:33
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: wait..... hmmmm01:33
rysiek|pl(ext3 is a little bit better supported, reiser is a bit faster)01:33
rysiek|plkj2006: nfs is Network File System - you use it when you want to share your files through network01:34
kj2006is nfs a disadvantage when i don\t have other computers in filesystem yet?01:34
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: I'm looking at the config.log where the error occurs01:34
rysiek|plkj2006: you simply can't use nfs if you haven't got any other machines on your network01:34
rysiek|plnfs server - running on machine A - serves the files, and nfs clients on other machines in the network can use the files shared by A through NFS01:35
kj2006ok, then i will not have to consider that yet01:35
kj2006i am going to buy a new machine next month01:36
rysiek|plif you have only one box, you don't need to use nfs (you can setup a server, but who's gonna use the files? :) )01:36
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: what's happening is that for some reason when the configure script tries to compile a test qt app it can't find any of hte header files01:36
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kj2006rysiek...i thought i could plan aheaad <(01:36
rysiek|plkj2006: then NFS will be a good solution for sharing files when you have more than one box :)01:36
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rysiek|plkj2006: you can01:37
rysiek|plyou can setup a NFS server right now01:37
rysiek|plbut it runs on top of your other filesystems01:37
rysiek|plso anyway you need to have other filesystems on the box01:37
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: I GOT IT!01:38
kj2006ah so i can have an ext3fs or reiserfs with nfs on top_01:38
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: try this:01:38
rysiek|plkj2006: precisely :)01:38
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/01:38
rysiek|plnfs is *just* a way of sharing files through a network01:38
kj2006thank you :)01:38
rysiek|plno problem01:38
kj2006i can see more clearly now :)01:38
farousTallia1Kubuntu: seem you did not read the readme file :)01:39
rysiek|plyou'll see even more clearly in a minute01:39
rysiek|pl!tell kj2006 about nfs01:39
kamerontrying to burn a cd iso (linux image), i get this error. i tried changing writing methods, and i swapped discs, changed speeds, ran k3bsetup again. please see my error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i973601:39
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Tallia1Kubuntufarous: my readme doesn't say anything more than ./configure, make, make install01:39
kj2006what magic command was that?01:40
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farousTallia1Kubuntu: good luck then hope it works patrix way01:40
rysiek|plkazzam! ;) it's a way of using the Ubuntu bot01:40
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: seems the compilation fails when it gets to the docbook stuff though01:40
rysiek|pl!tell kj2006 about ubotu01:40
Tallia1Kubuntu./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/01:41
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patrixactually it doesn't fail, the error is ignored and compilation continues, Tallia1Kubuntu01:41
patrixcool01:41
kj2006rysiek thank you very much....tomorrow will be installation day!01:41
Tallia1Kubuntutnx01:41
Tallia1Kubuntui am compiling too now01:42
kj2006gn801:42
ryanakcadoes editing the /etc/issue cause errors?01:42
Tallia1Kubuntu:) :)01:42
rysiek|plkj2006: gluck :)01:42
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: now for your other question, about running it from its own directory, I have a counter-question: why? ;)01:42
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rysiek|plgoing to get some sleep, guys. cu all and take care. :)01:43
Tallia1Kubuntubecause otherwise i dunno how to uninstall them01:43
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: with   make uninstall01:43
Tallia1Kubuntuyes but i need to keep the source01:43
patrixyeah that means you ahve to keep a copy of the source code around....01:43
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Datsunzosook...01:44
Tallia1Kubuntui'd like to see an package buiilder using the configure01:44
Datsunzosoi got xine01:44
Datsunzosobut that dont work01:44
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: there is01:44
Tallia1Kubuntureally?01:44
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Tallia1Kubuntuhow it is called?01:44
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patrixTallia1Kubuntu: it's called, I believe, checkconfig or something like that. I used it a long time ago, it didn't work too well on slackware but it was cool :)01:44
patrixDatsunzoso: do you have amarok-xine ?01:44
Datsunzosoyea01:45
Datsunzosoi do01:45
Datsunzosobut it wont play the songs01:45
patrixso quit amarok and restart it01:45
nukydoes anyone know a good webcam application for kde? something that can be networked?01:45
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Tallia1Kubuntucheckinstall01:45
Tallia1Kubuntu!checkinstall01:45
ubotucheckinstall is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall01:45
patrixyes checkinstall there you go01:45
Tallia1Kubuntudoes it works COMPLETELY automatically?01:46
patrixyou can make it automatic yes01:46
patrixso the process would be like01:46
Tallia1Kubuntui mean, asa i make install a source it add entry ?01:46
ryanakcadoes editing the /etc/issue cause errors?01:46
avuryanakca: no01:46
Datsunzosoyea that didnt  solve it01:46
patrix./configure --blablsbla && make && checkinstall -y -d  (or hwatever the options are to create a debian package)01:47
Datsunzososigh :(01:47
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: i get compilation Parser error in kfstab01:47
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: do you?01:48
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: the docbook stuff?01:48
Tallia1Kubuntuyes01:48
patrixyesh, but look what it says at some point, it says "Error: 1 (ignored)"01:48
patrixit's just documentation, who needs it ;)01:48
Tallia1Kubuntuyou are right01:48
Tallia1Kubuntu:)01:48
Tallia1Kubuntuweird..01:48
Tallia1Kubuntuisn't adept faster than synaptics?01:49
Tallia1Kubuntui tried to use it now for a couple of installs and it's not so bad01:49
Datsunzosodamn01:49
Datsunzososo how do i get amarock to play mp3s?01:50
patrixDatsunzoso: so you restarted amarok, and you selected the xine engine?01:50
Datsunzosoyea i did01:50
patrixhmmm01:50
patrixdid you also install akode-mpeg ?01:50
Datsunzosoi dont think so01:51
patrix(note that the last time I tired to install that package, the version in the ubuntu repositories was broken so I had to get it from somewhere else)01:51
Datsunzosooh rly?01:51
Datsunzosoi used adept to install it01:51
Datsunzosowhici figure goes through there right?01:51
patrixyeah tryu it with adept01:52
patrixit'll tel you if it doesn't work01:52
patrix"size mismatched" or something was the error I got01:52
Datsunzosoi used adept!01:52
Datsunzosoand it doesnt work01:52
Datsunzosoi have the actual gz file though01:52
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: ok I just tried checkinstall on kfstab,   sudo checkinstall -y -D01:52
Tallia1Kubuntuaha01:53
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: it didn't work cause I had to set the version number, so I did sudo checkinstall -D01:53
Tallia1Kubuntui was actually asking you why i  have this error01:53
Tallia1Kubuntudpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`kfstab') doesn't contain any digits01:53
Tallia1Kubuntudpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file01:53
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: answered yes to the doc-pak question01:53
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: then when it showed me all the differengt balues, I saw "Version: [kfstab] "  and I changed that to "Version: [0.7] " aqnd now it worked01:53
Tallia1Kubuntudon't you get the contain any digit error?01:54
patrixDatsunzoso: I have the akode-mpeg deb package here on my PC, you want it?01:54
Tallia1Kubuntudo you execute the program inside the source folder?01:54
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: yeah, that happens because you ran it with -y , run it without the -y to manually answer the questions. it's not painfulk, trust me ;)01:54
Datsunzosowhat is the akode mpg deb pakage?01:54
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: i tried.. before you told me the command01:55
patrixDatsunzoso: the kde sound server codecs to play mp3 files01:55
Datsunzosook sure sounds good01:55
patrixDatsunzoso: not sure if it's 100% requir4ed for amarok-xine, your problem might be different I dunno, but I have th package and I can play mp3s in amarok, with either xine or gstreamer01:55
patrixDatsunzoso: http://www.patrix.org/akode/01:57
Datsunzosook01:57
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patrixTallia1Kubuntu: so.. is it working?01:57
Datsunzosook what do i do with that file?01:57
Tallia1Kubuntuno01:58
Tallia1Kubuntuwithout putting y01:58
Tallia1Kubuntui still get the same problem01:58
patrixDatsunzoso: download it, and either right-click it -> actions -> install package, or open a terminal and type sudo dpkg -i akode<tab>01:58
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patrixTallia1Kubuntu: ok, run it checkinstall -D01:58
Tallia1Kubuntudpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`kfstab') doesn't contain any digits01:58
Tallia1Kubuntudpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file01:58
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: then say y to the first question01:58
Tallia1Kubuntuthat's what i ge01:58
Tallia1Kubuntut01:58
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: then you'll get "This package will be built accoprding to these values:" anda  ubnch of values follow, yes?01:59
Maks0nHey guys, I'm a mad newbie and I want to install KDE with Ubuntu, I was just wondering what the main differences are?01:59
Tallia1Kubuntuyes01:59
patrixTallia1Kubuntu: you need to change the 3rd one, Version to say 0.7 instead of kfstab01:59
Tallia1Kubuntuok01:59
Tallia1Kubuntui tried before01:59
patrixthen it'll work01:59
Tallia1Kubuntubut let me try again01:59
Tallia1Kubuntuno02:00
Tallia1Kubuntusame error02:00
patrixare you sure you changed Version to 0.7 ??02:00
Tallia1Kubuntuyes02:00
Tallia1Kubuntubut before the bunch of values02:00
Datsunzosoyea that didnt work or im a total noob02:00
Tallia1Kubuntui get this02:00
Tallia1Kubuntu*** Warning: The package version "kfstab" does not02:00
Tallia1Kubuntu*** Warning: contain any digits. dpkg might not like that.02:00
patrixand are you running (sorry didn't mention that) sudo checkinstall -D      ?02:00
Tallia1Kubuntuyes02:01
patrixDatsunzoso: ok wait a moment I'm gonna finish helping Tallia1Kubuntu , this multitasking is starting to be tiring ;)02:01
Datsunzosoits cool thanks for the help02:01
patrixok02:01
patrixTallia1Kubuntu... your error message tells me the version is still "kfstab" and not "0.7"02:01
patrixneed to change version, not Name02:02
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to change the version before executing check..02:02
Tallia1Kubuntui know02:02
Tallia1KubuntuEnter a number to change any of them or press ENTER to continue: 302:02
patrixyes02:02
Tallia1Kubuntu3 -  Version: [ 0.7 ] 02:02
Tallia1Kubuntuthen i press continue02:03
Tallia1KubuntuInstalling Debian package... FAILED!02:03
Tallia1Kubuntu*** Failed to install the package02:03
Tallia1KubuntuDo you want to see the log file?  [y] :02:03
Tallia1Kubuntuahha02:03
Tallia1Kubuntui am an idiot02:03
Tallia1Kubuntu:)02:03
Tallia1Kubuntui didn't close ADEPT02:03
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patrixohyhhhhhh02:03
Tallia1Kubuntuman thanks a lots02:04
patrixno prob :)02:04
patrixokay02:04
patrixDatsunzoso:02:04
patrixyour turn ;)02:04
Datsunzosohorray02:05
patrixhehe02:05
patrixok so what's the status02:05
Datsunzososo yea i cant play the mp3 on amarok02:05
patrixyou got akode-mpeg, amarok-xine, and.....?02:05
Datsunzosoi have xine02:05
Datsunzosoakod-mpeg no02:05
Datsunzosou gave me the link but it didnt owrk02:05
Datsunzosoor i dont think i know how to use it right02:05
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patrixcan you play other files with amarok, such as .wav ?02:06
Datsunzosoi dont have a .wav file to try it out on02:06
patrixhmpf02:06
patrixlol02:06
patrixyes you do02:06
patrixKDE is full of wav files02:06
patrixlol02:06
Datsunzosolol02:06
Datsunzosotrue02:06
pussfelleri got an ipod icon on my desktop, but my ipods not plugged in02:07
pussfellerwhat gives02:07
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pussfellerhow do i remove this02:07
Flosoftwhat is kded?02:07
patrixDatsunzoso: /usr/share/sounds02:07
FlosoftI constantly get an error window from crashmanager02:07
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patrixDatsunzoso: waitingl....02:09
Datsunzosono it dont play em02:09
patrixhmm02:10
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patrixDatsunzoso: but can kde play the wav files, like if you get an error, or the startup sound, etc?02:10
Datsunzosoim not sure02:11
patrixheh02:11
patrixso you don't get sound when KDE starts up?02:11
Datsunzosoidk02:11
Datsunzosomaybe not02:11
Datsunzosoi didnt have my speakers plugged in when i started kde up02:12
Datsunzosomaybe i gotta restart?02:12
patrixrestart is for windows wussies02:12
Datsunzoso:\02:12
Datsunzososo i should just kick linux in the balls? lol02:12
patrixwell I gotta ask the obvious question first, are your speakers pluggedi n now lol02:13
Datsunzosoyea they r02:13
Datsunzosothats y i didnt answer when u said waiting02:13
patrixis the sound system active ?02:13
Datsunzosoi was checking they are02:13
Datsunzososound system yea its on02:13
PyrobobDatsunzoso, you SHOULD kick linux in teh balls02:13
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: have you ever tried to install Kine?02:13
Pyrobobo.o02:13
Tallia1Kubuntui had problem with that too..02:13
patrixno never tried Tallia1Kubuntu02:13
Tallia1Kubuntui'd like to have the last version because it can import avi02:13
Tallia1Kubuntubut i have problems there too02:14
Datsunzosohmm02:14
patrixDatsunzoso: so the speakers are polugged in, is hte sound system active?02:14
Datsunzosoyea its active02:14
patrixif you "test sound" in the Sound&multimedia settings, do yuy hear something?02:14
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Datsunzosono i dont hear anything02:15
Datsunzosoi have a pci soundcard02:15
patrixhmmmm02:15
Datsunzosoperhaps i have to install some type of software for it?02:15
patrixI have a pci sound card too, didn't have any trouble02:15
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Datsunzosodamn02:16
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patrixcat /dev/sndstat02:16
ryanakcabrb02:16
Datsunzoso?02:17
patrixtype that in a terminal02:17
patrixsee what htat tells you02:17
Datsunzosooh ok02:17
Datsunzosoit says that sb live 5.1 is installed02:17
Datsunzosothats the sound card02:17
patrixand it lists at least one audio device and mixer?02:18
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Datsunzosoi have the pci card and the onboard sound device, might they be conflicting?02:18
patrixcould be. I disabled my onboard sound iun the BIOS02:18
Datsunzosoi tried the onboard sound02:19
Datsunzosostill dont work02:19
Datsunzoso...02:19
Datsunzososo i gotta go into bios and disbale it?02:19
Datsunzosooki doki02:19
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patrixwe,ll it's one possibility02:19
Datsunzosoim gonna  try that... if that fails, idk what im gonna do02:19
Datsunzosoill be back here though in 1002:19
Datsunzosothanks02:19
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eddyI've installed kubuntu, Now I've got a problem with any kind of authentication02:22
eddyCan someone help me?02:23
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Datsunzosook02:24
Datsunzosoi got sound now02:25
Datsunzosodisabled the onboard sound02:25
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: can you give me a suggestion how to solve this?02:26
Tallia1Kubuntuchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot >= Qt 2.1 beta2) (libraries) not found. Please check your installation!02:26
Flosoftanyone knows how to fix the kded problem?02:26
Datsunzosook so at this point i have sound, but i still dont have the use of mp3's02:26
visik7anyone with an alcatel speedtouchhome here ?02:26
Datsunzosoany1 think they can help me?02:27
Datsunzosoi cant get mp3's to work on amarok, i have xine installed already02:28
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: :) plz02:29
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Datsunzosozome1 help me!02:30
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NRG88hi, may i ask about ubuntu, because on the other channel i never get responses >:\02:32
NRG88?02:32
Datsunzososame here lol02:32
NRG88i used kubuntu, but wanted to make ubuntu from it02:33
NRG88looks like i like gnome more :)02:33
NRG88but, i don't have update notifier02:33
NRG88it's installed and everything, but it doesn't start :(02:34
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NRG88i managed to use gdm, and the original ubuntu bootscreen02:35
NRG88but the black mouse theme is the same from the first kde theme02:36
NRG88and no update notifier starts :(02:36
NRG88well what do you know02:36
NRG88alt+f202:36
NRG88update-notifier02:36
NRG88thanks for the help guys :D02:36
NRG88it works ;D02:37
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NRG88brb, i'll just logout, and check Save current settings or whatever02:38
Flosoftanyone here using XDMCP with Kubuntu as host?02:43
FlosoftI always have the problem that my mouse doesn't work02:43
Tallia1Kubuntuno02:43
patrixok I'm back02:44
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: :)02:44
patrixDatsunzoso: so you got sound now?02:44
Tallia1Kubuntupatrix: do you know how to solve this?02:45
Datsunzosough02:45
Datsunzosoyea igot sound02:45
Datsunzosobut mp3s dont work02:45
Tallia1Kubuntuchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot >= Qt 2.1 beta2) (libraries) not found. Please check your installation!02:45
patrixok ok one problem at a time ;)02:46
Datsunzosodeal with his02:46
patrixDatsunzoso: so you got sound, stil no mp3. time to try that akode-mpeg pcakge mayube02:46
Datsunzosoill be back, im eating now02:46
Datsunzosoafter food lol02:46
Datsunzosohelp tallia out first02:47
patrixok02:47
patrixwhat are you trying now Tallia1Kubuntu .. looks like an old program, to depend on such an old QT bversion02:47
Tallia1Kubuntuyes02:47
Tallia1Kubuntuit is an old02:47
Tallia1Kubuntugame02:47
Tallia1Kubuntuand then i'd like to ask you if you can give me an hand to install the last version of kino02:48
patrixwell I've no garantee the old game will work02:48
Tallia1Kubuntuok02:48
Tallia1Kubuntulet's forget about that one02:48
Tallia1Kubuntukino is more useful02:48
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patrixkino - non-linear editor for digital video data?02:49
Tallia1Kubuntuyes02:49
Tallia1Kubuntui have 0.8 but to edit avi i need 1.002:50
patrixwell I see it in the poackages repository02:50
patrixoh02:50
patrixlooks like a gnome application02:50
Tallia1Kubuntuyes02:50
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.kinodv.org/02:50
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patrixI don't see a 1.0 release on that page02:51
Tallia1Kubuntuthe last one sorry02:51
Tallia1Kubuntuthe one with AVI support02:52
patrixlatest one is 0.802:53
Tallia1Kubuntuyes02:53
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Tallia1Kubuntuwait02:53
Tallia1Kubuntuthey upgraded the repositories02:53
Tallia1Kubuntulet me try if AVI works02:54
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Tallia1Kubuntumeh02:56
Tallia1Kubuntui don't think it is working very good02:56
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patrixheh02:57
patrixwell I dunno, never tried any of it02:57
Datsunzosomm02:58
patrixso Datsunzoso02:59
Datsunzosoyes sir02:59
patrixyou get sound but no mp302:59
Datsunzosoya03:00
Datsunzosoi found this program called xmms03:00
Datsunzosoit claims to play mp3s03:00
Datsunzosobut i have no idea how to use the tar.gz files03:00
gm152xmms does.03:00
patrixlol03:00
patrixok ok ok one thing at a time03:00
Datsunzosokk03:01
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patrixhmmm03:01
patrixso can amarok play a wav file, now?03:01
Datsunzosough03:01
Datsunzosoyea03:01
patrixokay :)03:02
patrixhmmmm did you install akode-mpeg ?03:02
Datsunzosono03:02
patrixwell let's try thast first, then03:02
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Datsunzosook03:02
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Datsunzosohow do i do that03:03
patrixrightclick the .deb file you downloaded03:04
patrixgo to actions->install package03:04
Datsunzosough  can i get the link to it?03:05
Datsunzosoi think i deleted it03:05
patrixhttp://patrix.org/akode/03:05
patrixI fuond that file by doing a google search for the edxact package name03:06
patrixbecause hte one in the repositories is broken03:06
Tallia1Kubuntusomebody know ffmpeg?03:06
Datsunzosook03:06
Datsunzosoit  installd it but it said that errors were  encountered03:07
patrixoh?03:07
patrixI don't remember errors, myself03:07
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Datsunzosois says there were errors03:08
patrixand doesn't say what hte errors were?03:08
Datsunzosoit says "errors wer encountered while processing: akode-mpeg03:09
patrixheh03:09
patrixso I Guess it didn't install it03:09
patrixhmmm03:09
Datsunzososigh03:09
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gm152Tallia1Kubuntu: ffmpeg didn't compile for me.  Otherwise, i would use it.03:10
patrixyou didn't upgrade to kde 3.5.1 did you?03:10
Tallia1Kubuntugm152: weren't you in #linux03:10
Tallia1Kubuntui downloaded it now from repositories :)03:10
gm152Tallia1Kubuntu: i still am.03:10
Tallia1Kubuntuand it is converting now03:10
gm152good.  :)03:11
patrixDatsunzoso: you're still on kde 3.4.3 ? or did you upgrade to 3.5.1 ?03:11
Datsunzosoidk03:11
Datsunzosohow do i  check03:11
patrixhelp -> bout KDE  in any kde app ;)03:11
Datsunzoso3.4.303:12
patrixokay03:12
Datsunzosoisnt 5.1 in developmental stages?03:13
patrixnah 3.5.1 was released a while ago03:13
patrixhmmm03:13
Datsunzososo any ideas?03:14
patrixwelcome to free software, where ideology is more importnat than functinoality!03:14
patrixlol03:14
Datsunzosowell can i try xmms?03:14
Datsunzosoits a tar.gz03:14
Datsunzosowhat would  i do to install it03:14
patrixcompile it03:14
Datsunzosocomo? how?03:14
patrixugh.. by tracking down all the -dev pacjages you need for it, then issuing a few commands in a terminal03:15
Datsunzoso....03:15
Datsunzosolol03:15
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Datsunzosoexplain this to me if i was a 10 year old and this was my first time lol03:15
patrixlol03:16
patrixinstall libgtk1.2-dev03:16
patrixat the very least you need that packagfe to compile xmms03:16
Datsunzosoi understand some stuff, but not all, guide me throught please!03:17
Datsunzosoi already have the tar.gz extracted03:17
Datsunzosowhat would i have to do now03:17
patrixgo in the directory created03:17
Datsunzosook03:17
patrixand type the following commands:03:17
patrix./configure03:17
patrixmake03:17
patrixmake install03:17
patrixconfigure looks for the libraries it needs and creates the files that will guidfe make into compiling it03:18
patrixmake follows the Makefile instructions and makes (!) the application03:18
patrixmake install installs it03:18
patrixgoptta sudo make install03:18
patrixor hey like Tallia1Kubuntu you can try checkinstall instead of make install, to make it create a nice deb package03:18
Datsunzosoi did ./configure03:19
Datsunzosoand it did some stuff than it says configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH03:20
patrixwell yeah, you need a C compiler to compile stuff.... hehe03:20
LjLDatsunzoso: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"03:20
patrixinstall the build-essential package03:20
patrixsudo apt-get install build-essential03:20
Datsunzosook03:20
Datsunzosoits doooing it now03:21
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Datsunzosodones03:21
Datsunzosonow try it?03:21
patrixnow03:21
patrixsudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev03:21
LjLyou should probably use "sudo checkinstall" rather than "sudo make install" for installing03:21
LjL(after installing checkinstall that is)03:21
Datsunzosook03:21
patrixok now try ./configure03:22
patrixagain03:22
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Datsunzosook03:22
Datsunzosonow its doin somethin less morbid03:22
Datsunzosodone03:23
patrixlol03:23
patrixlol @ less morbid03:23
patrixok what did it say at the end03:23
Datsunzosough03:23
robotgeek!compile03:23
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware03:23
Datsunzosoconfiguration03:23
Datsunzosoand the install path03:23
Datsunzosothan some more stuff03:24
patrixdid it say yes to OSS plugin, ALSA plugin, Ogg vorbis plugin, etc03:24
patrixno ned for mikmod solaris or BSD plugins03:24
Datsunzosoyea03:24
Datsunzosoit said that stuff03:24
patrixgood03:24
patrixnow type make03:25
Datsunzosooss, esd, solaris,bsd,also,mikmod,oggvorbs,opengl03:25
Datsunzosoeverything no xcept for oss03:25
patrixehhh03:25
patrixwait a minute03:25
Datsunzosoalsa ogg gotta be yes right?03:25
patrixyeh03:25
Datsunzosohow do i do that now03:25
patrixsudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libvorbis-dev03:26
Datsunzosook03:27
patrixthat should do it03:27
Datsunzoso?03:27
patrixtry ./configure again03:27
Datsunzosook03:28
Datsunzosonow they read yes03:29
patrixgroovy03:29
patrixnow type make03:29
Datsunzosoahhh lol03:29
Datsunzosoits  doin a bunch of stuff now03:29
Datsunzosostill doing it03:30
Datsunzosowo, still goin03:30
Datsunzosoij dibe03:30
Datsunzosook done...03:30
patrixfast computer ;)03:30
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patrixok now you hav 2 choices03:30
Datsunzosored pill or blue pill.... hmm.03:31
patrixyou can make it create a debian package, for easily uninstallation03:31
patrixor just isntall it03:31
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Datsunzosolets go with... debian pakage03:31
patrixok03:31
patrixsudo apt-get install checkinstall03:31
Datsunzosobig money big money big money, no whammies!03:32
Datsunzosook03:32
patrixnow03:32
patrixcheckinstall -D03:32
Datsunzoso... going.....03:32
patrixer03:32
patrixsudo checkinstall -D03:32
Datsunzosook03:32
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Datsunzosook...03:33
Datsunzosoinstallatino failed03:33
patrixwhy03:33
treloshello03:33
trelosi have a problem with configuring xinetd ...03:33
Datsunzosono known documentaion were found. the new pakage wont include a documemtaion of directory03:33
patrixok that's no problem03:33
trelosi'm trying to telnet to myself an i get a connection refused message03:33
trelosthe configuratino seems to be ok,any idea why is that ?03:34
patrixDatsunzoso: I'm compilin and trying it out to see...03:34
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patrixhm03:35
patrixDatsunzoso: did your compilation failed? mine did lol03:35
Datsunzosoi think it did03:36
patrixargh03:36
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trelosanyone who has had a problem setting up telnet with xinetd ?03:36
Datsunzosoyea it failed03:37
patrixarrrghh Datsunzoso thisd is furustrating lol03:37
Datsunzosoyea03:37
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Datsunzosoall i want to do is install a file03:37
Datsunzosonot cure cancer lol03:37
patrixindeed03:37
patrixI'm not sure why akiode-mpeg won't install anywa03:38
patrixlol03:38
patrixwtf03:38
patrixhmmm03:38
Datsunzosowow03:38
patrixwanna try something?03:38
patrixwow what03:38
Datsunzosolol sure03:38
patrixgo in amarok config, engines03:39
patrixand fgor output plugin, instead of autodetect try oss03:39
Datsunzosohow do i go about doing that03:39
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patrixin amarok03:39
Datsunzosook03:40
patrixsettings -> configure amarok03:40
Datsunzosook03:40
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patrixyou know, the same place where you selected the xine engine03:40
Datsunzosoyea03:40
patrixyou did select the xine engine didn't you? ;)03:40
Datsunzosoyes lol03:40
patrixnow under the xine logo it sayus output plugin: autodfetect03:40
patrixwell change autodetect to oss03:40
Datsunzosook03:41
patrixI know with me and gstreamer plugin, I had to make it oss to make it work03:41
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Datsunzosook than try a song?03:41
patrixyeah03:41
patrixhm but then if .wav files played iut's probably not that.. doh03:41
Datsunzosoyea no dive03:42
Datsunzoso*dice03:42
patrixno dice, biug dive! down down to hell! arghhh03:42
patrixok well03:42
patrixI see 2 options, and after that I'm out of ideas for now03:43
Datsunzosook03:43
patrix1 - try installing gstreamer-mad and using the gstreamer engine for amarok03:43
patrix2 - try akode-mpeg, find one that actually installs03:43
patrixtry #2 first, then #103:43
Datsunzosogstreamer mad03:44
Datsunzosook how?03:44
patrixsudo apt-get install gstreamer-mad03:44
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Datsunzosocouldnt find pakage gstream-mad03:45
patrixgstreamer-mad03:45
Datsunzosoyea thats what i typed03:45
patrixwell uhm03:46
patrixoh03:46
patrixgstreamer0.8-mad03:46
Datsunzosook03:46
Datsunzosogot it03:46
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patrixok now try the gstreamer engine in amarok, and the oss output plugin or osssink or whatgever they call it03:47
Datsunzosook03:48
DatsunzosoFINALLY!03:48
Datsunzosothank god03:48
Datsunzosow00t it works03:48
patrixwoooooo!03:48
DatsunzosoI <3 YOU03:48
patrixone caveat though03:48
Datsunzoso...03:49
patrixI have a few mp3 files that, for some reason, gstreamer has trouble with :(03:49
Datsunzosooh rly03:49
Datsunzosowhy03:49
patrixso at some point youmight still want to figure out xine support03:49
patrixbut YEAH IT WORKS IN THE MEANTIME! :D :D :D03:49
Datsunzosoyea :D03:49
patriximo you should still try to find a good akode-mpeg package that actually installs, it's a good idea to get mp3 support in all kde apps ;)03:50
Datsunzosoyea im gonna try that03:50
Datsunzosoonly draw back from amarok i see is the ability to put your files in a nice order03:50
Datsunzosolike i remeber winamp would give you the artist name, and than their songs, amarok just gives you al lthe files in the folder03:51
patrixI'm sure you cna customize all that03:51
patrixit's a very featureful program03:51
patrixI quite enjoy the dynamic plaulist feature, it just chooses songs for me and manages the playlist, based on what I like to hear, so I rarelyu have to edit the playlist anyway lol03:51
Datsunzosocool03:52
Datsunzosowait03:52
Datsunzosocool03:52
Datsunzosoi can do what i said i couldnt03:52
patrix?03:52
Datsunzosolol I  <3 amarok03:52
patrixoh yeah it's a great app :)03:52
Datsunzosonot winamp, but alot nicer and more linux.y03:52
Datsunzosook now onto firefox03:53
patrix:)03:53
patrixokay hten03:53
Datsunzosoahaha03:53
patrixI can go take a break03:53
Datsunzosoyea03:53
Datsunzosoyou do that03:53
Datsunzosoim gonna just surf the net with music, w00t03:54
patrix:D03:54
patrixlater man03:54
patrixenjoy :)03:54
Datsunzosothanks 4 ur help03:54
patrixnp03:54
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Datsunzosowhy does kubuntu use so much memory?04:18
Datsunzosowell virtual memory04:18
farousDatsunzoso: do you mean cach04:18
Datsunzososure04:18
farousto make your application faster04:18
farousso do not worry aobut that04:18
Datsunzoso...04:18
Datsunzoso!?04:19
ubotuNot a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Datsunzoso04:19
Datsunzosoit says 85 processes, 800 mb used, 200 mb free04:19
Datsunzosough worried!04:19
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Datsunzosoany1 think thats too much?04:20
farousDatsunzoso: have you ever runned linux or unix before04:21
farousthe number of processes is normal04:21
farousthe mem i presume much of it is cash04:21
Datsunzososure havnt04:21
Datsunzosoim just worried bout hte virtual memory04:22
Datsunzosoit says 800 mb being used04:22
farousit is not like window. all procs are light weight04:22
Datsunzosobut why does it read such a high vm #?04:22
farouseverything is listed window does not list them all04:22
Datsunzoso?04:23
farousDatsunzoso: to store your most frequent programs so they run faster from the memory04:23
Datsunzosooh i understand i suppose04:23
farousand why are you worried abou the ram usage04:23
Datsunzosowell... im not used to it being so high lol04:23
farouscach memory will not force your pc to use swap space04:23
farouslol i was always high on resources under windows.04:24
Datsunzosoim looking at physical memory, and it says 791, xxx kb used    244, xxx free04:24
farousDatsunzoso: type top in a termina04:24
farouswill tell you how much is cach how much is used by progs04:24
DatsunzosoTasks:  86 total,   1 running,  85 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie04:25
DatsunzosoCpu(s): 20.3% us,  3.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 76.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si04:25
DatsunzosoMem:   1035888k total,   797416k used,   238472k free,    69808k buffers04:25
DatsunzosoSwap:  3028212k total,        0k used,  3028212k free,   520928k cache04:25
Datsunzosoah srry04:26
faroususe the pastebin04:26
Datsunzososo what do u see from that jumbled up info04:26
farousanyway do not worry that is normal04:26
patrixyeah Datsunzoso it's normal :) the kernel reserves a lot of memory even though it's not all used right away04:26
patrixmakes memory management more efficient04:26
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ICXCNIKADoes anyone have any information on getting a Dell WLAN Wireless Modem to work with kubuntu/ubuntu?04:27
patrixanyone correct me if I'm wrong about what exactly is happening ;)04:27
Datsunzosorawr04:29
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ICXCNIKAI guess not.04:31
farousICXCNIKA: you have to tell us what card you have04:32
farous!wireless04:32
ubotufrom memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards04:32
farous^  ^04:32
Datsunzosogotta love these guys04:33
ICXCNIKADell Truemobile 1300004:34
ICXCNIKA1300*04:34
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farousICXCNIKA: follow ubotu link man04:34
kingpomba!network04:39
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.04:39
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kingpomba!KDE04:40
ubotuI guess kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/04:40
Datsunzosobuh bye04:41
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kingpomba!dual boot04:42
ubotukingpomba: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/04:42
mr-russkingpomba: if you install it, it will detect other OS's and add them to the boot menu04:45
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kingpombawoot 60% of the way there04:50
kingpombai know ubuntu can go from gnome to KDE but can kubuntu go from KDE to gnome04:53
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tarmathkingpomba, its possible, but not as easily05:04
tarmathunfortunately, theres no ubuntu-desktop package.05:05
kingpombaoh05:06
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kingpombabecause i thought alot of app run on gnome and not on kde05:07
mr-russkingpomba: you just install the app, it will install the relevant gnome librarys to run the program05:08
kingpombaoh is that all05:11
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kingpombathanks mate i was panic for a second05:12
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mr-russkingpomba: what state are you in?05:13
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_canbonjour !05:16
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Kr4t05How do I get to the Control Center? I've tried every thing.05:44
tarmath_such as typing kcontrol in konsole?05:45
Kr4t05tarmath_: Hey, that might work.05:46
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KentJonathanhello06:02
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KentJonathanhello?06:06
firephotohi06:06
KentJonathanfirephoto you help here?06:07
firephotoonly if it's kde related..06:07
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firephotoi do have kubuntu installed on the test box though. heh06:07
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firephotoook heh06:08
firephotoso, i have dapper running on the test box, I had breezy on the laptop 6 months ago to try, anyway... dapper is working great with kde, few quirks, i'm just curious of the long term, getting the latest apps, stuff (not)breaking, etc.06:11
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firephotoopinions/thoughts/whatever wanted. ;)06:11
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nrdbI am trying to run 'uisp' the avr micro programmer I am getting an error message "/dev/parport0: No such file or directory" I don't have any parport0 in my devs directory! how would I create one?06:37
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ICXCNIKA!mp306:42
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped06:42
ubotu[mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:42
ICXCNIKAHm. I can't download the things needed to play mp3s.06:43
ICXCNIKASays gstreamer is outdated or something06:43
nrdbI am trying to run 'uisp' the avr micro programmer I am getting an error message "/dev/parport0: No such file or directory" I don't have any parport0 in my devs directory! how would I create one?06:46
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Snake|FMJIs there a way to restart X so that resume desktop is reset to default?07:02
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farousSnake|FMJ: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart07:03
farousis that what you are looking for?07:03
Snake|FMJfarous: I did that but then the programs that it I had loaded still reloaded07:03
ICXCNIKAok I can't get mp3s to play.07:03
ICXCNIKAIt just keeps buffering.07:04
Snake|FMJmy friends keeps on hanging on start up with GAIM, so he wanted to reset the resume desktop feature07:04
farousi have no idea what ou are talking about07:04
firephotoSnake|FMJ: you need to just make sure gaim is closed when you log out07:04
Snake|FMJfirephoto: yes I know, but his KDE wont load to shut it down07:05
firephotooh..07:05
Snake|FMJIt keeps freezing at the splash screen07:05
firephotois it a new install? or recent?07:05
Snake|FMJRecent i believe07:05
Snake|FMJMeh whatever, ill check it out later, he just got kicked offline again and im watchin full metal jacket, ill check back later07:06
firephotoyou can delete the ~/.kde/share/config/session/07:06
firephotoshould be an entry for for gaim, or delete them all07:07
Snake|FMJAh ha! thank you :))07:07
ICXCNIKAgstreamer doesn't seem to be working at all07:07
Snake|FMJICXCNIKA: then get xine07:07
Snake|FMJ!xine07:07
ubotuI give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake|FMJ07:07
Snake|FMJ:-/07:07
firephotoxine doesn't play mp3's for me on the kubuntu box (amarok)07:07
Snake|FMJWhy not? lol07:08
Snake|FMJI dunno cant talk now07:08
Snake|FMJWatching war07:08
ICXCNIKAcouldn't find package xine07:08
Snake|FMJICXCNIKA: its like amarok-xine I think07:09
Snake|FMJ!info amarok-xine07:09
ubotuamarok-xine: (xine engine for the amaroK audio player), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 46 kB, Installed size: 176 kB07:09
Snake|FMJThere07:09
ICXCNIKAUhh...okay.07:09
Snake|FMJICXCNIKA: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine07:10
Snake|FMJgo into the config, set that as the engine07:10
ICXCNIKACouldn't find package07:10
Snake|FMJDo you have uni/multi repos enabled?07:10
ICXCNIKAI'm sorry. I'm new to Linux.07:10
ICXCNIKAWhat?07:11
Snake|FMJ!sources07:11
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:11
Snake|FMJICXCNIKA: I assume you didnt do this either07:11
Snake|FMJ!mp307:11
Glin|JolWinamp  5.20 Stopped07:11
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:11
Snake|FMJAlright no more sorry07:11
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fatejudgerwhat is the best way to view your CPU temp in Kubuntu?07:45
fatejudgerI figured that superkaramba might have a widget for that, but none work so far07:45
Tm_Tfatejudger: have you tried conky/torsmo?07:45
fatejudgerTm_T: no07:45
fatejudgerTm_T: which one is more KDE centric?07:46
Tm_Tthey both are not KDE software07:46
Tm_Ttorsmo is old, conky is just "updated version" of it07:46
fatejudgerwell is there some KDE prog that I can use?07:47
Tm_Tksensors07:47
fatejudgerI also was curious if anyone knew what the bandwidth overhead of running a VPN server was07:48
fatejudgerand whether that would be advantageous for constant sharing/streaming music and files07:48
fatejudgerI have a feeling my CPU doesn't have a temperature gauge07:49
fatejudgerI just stuck my CPU back in my computer without re-applying thermal paste07:50
fatejudgerI'm thinking it's gonna overheat soon07:50
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neoncodeIs their a firewall enabled by default in kubuntu?08:00
fatejudgerno, it's Linux08:01
fatejudgerwe're too cool for firewalls08:01
fatejudgerif you're THAT paranoid, you can get one though08:01
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Tm_Tthere is firewall installed and basically running bydefault08:01
Tm_Tit's part of kernel08:02
fatejudgerTm_T: there is?08:02
fatejudgerTm_T: well that doesn't really count08:02
Tm_Tit does08:02
fatejudgerTm_T: that just closes ports08:02
fatejudgerTm_T: and opens them08:02
fatejudgerTm_T: any OS should do that08:02
neoncodeHmmm... I set my gamecube to use my computer as a proxy but it's not sending anything to this. I checked with a packet sniffer. I thought a firewall might be blocking them08:02
Tm_Tfatejudger: iptables, oh, all those nice GUI "firewalls" are just GUI for iptables08:02
neoncodeWell whatever it is, how do I tell it to allow all comunications with a certan IP.08:03
Tm_Thmm08:03
Tm_T!firewall08:03
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.08:03
Tm_T;)08:03
neoncodewonderfull, I'm glad that I litraly do have all day... (it's 7:03 AM and I plan to stay up all day... stayed awake though the night and all...)08:04
Tm_Thehe08:04
Tm_T0904 here08:04
Tm_Tandno, no sleep last night08:05
Tm_Tdid this whole morning: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current-temp.png08:06
neoncodesleep is for the week. I even got out a 2ltr bottle of diet coke. I used to be addcted to the stuff for about 3 years I drunk nothing else. I went off it but I kinna need it for fast caffine.08:06
Tm_Tnice background, eh?08:06
neoncode*weak08:06
Tm_Tdiet coke? no sugar? yuuukk08:06
neoncodeWhatever. It's caffinated and I have like 4 bottles of the stuff. Bring it!08:07
Tm_Tyuh'08:07
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Tm_Tnocloud: liked the background there?08:11
nocloudwhat background?08:11
nocloudi've got a question08:11
noclouddoes anybody know how i can upgrade from Hoary HedgeHog to Breezy Badger?08:11
Tm_Twhooops08:11
Tm_Tnocloud: ignore my question08:12
Tm_T!distupgrade08:12
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tm_T08:12
Tm_Thmm08:12
nocloud!distupgrade08:12
nocloud?08:12
Tm_T!upgrade08:12
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to dapper Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html08:12
Tm_Tah, there08:12
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nocloudand just curious, when is the next major release for kubuntu?08:13
cable21hmm08:13
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Tm_Tnocloud: year after hoary08:14
nocloudwhen did hoary come out again?08:14
Tm_Tthat means 6.0408:14
Tm_T5.0408:14
nocloudooh08:15
nocloudso, next month then08:15
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Tm_Tyup08:16
nocloudawesome08:16
nocloudthanks guys08:16
nocloudgoing to attempt the upgrade right now08:16
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neoncodeok progress! my Gamecube is now talking to my PC.08:19
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hoobustinkwhy is it that, these sequence of command drop my internet connection for outgoing: first command: iptables -F  2nd: iptables -A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT 3rd: iptables -A INPUT -j DROP 4th: iptables -A FORWARD -j DROP08:20
hoobustink?08:20
hoobustinkthose were the command i typed from first to 4th and my connection outgoing was dropped08:21
hoobustinkany ideas?08:22
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ttreadhoobustink, the INPUT needs to jump to ACCEPT also08:26
hoobustinkttread why im not running any program inside my box08:28
ttreadhoobustink your computer needs to be able to accept incoming packets08:28
ttreadat least some of them08:28
hoobustinkhmmm so this iptables is totally different from fedora and redhat08:29
hoobustinkcuz if i do that i can still get internet connection08:29
ttreadyeah iptables is actually rather complex08:29
hoobustinkif i do those 4 commands above in fedora i have internet connection outgoing08:30
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ttreadI don't know about RH/fedora, last time I used it was a couple of years ago08:30
noclouddoes anybody know how i can change my repositories in the kynaptic package manager?08:31
hoobustinkttread do you have a basic iptables command for this that incoming should be blocked and outgoing is open?08:31
neoncodeHow can I make it so that when one computer makes a DNS request for a certan URL my computer responds and tells this computer that that site is at my computers IP?08:31
ttread!iptables08:31
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ttreadhoobustink, if you block all incoming packets then you won't receive any data from the internet08:33
neoncode!iptables08:33
noclouddoes anybody know how i can change my repositories in the kynaptic package manager?08:33
ttreadhoobustink, you could try this: http://netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO-5.html08:34
robotgeeknocloud: kynaptic?08:34
robotgeeknocloud: what version of kubuntu are you using?08:34
nocloud5.0408:34
nocloudi'm trying to upgrade to 5.1008:34
robotgeeknocloud: you might prefer the breezy upgrade guide?08:35
robotgeek!breezy08:35
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:35
nocloudi am looking at that and it tells me to change the repositories08:36
nocloudthat's where im stuck08:36
robotgeeknocloud: all you need to do is to "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and replace all occurences of hoary with breezy08:36
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nocloudkate isn't giving me write access to save the changes....08:39
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robotgeeknocloud: then use the command line, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:39
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eclub09tai08:40
nocloudokay, i think i got it08:40
nocloudnow, after that, what is the next step for me to do to upgrade?08:41
_grigorysudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade08:41
robotgeeknocloud: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"08:41
robotgeeknocloud: i hope you have kubuntu-desktop installed08:41
nocloudi used " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" command08:42
noclouddoes that install the kubuntu desktop?08:42
robotgeeknocloud: nope, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"08:42
_grigoryhow can i reload K-Menu in kde? something like "killall gnome-panel" but that works with in kubuntu08:42
robotgeeknocloud: please pay close attention to the wiki page, don't just copy paste. read please08:42
robotgeek_grigory: killall kicker?08:42
_grigoryoh... i tried "kde-panel", that didn't work :)08:43
_grigorythanks08:43
haffeIs there a cvsdistribution of ubuntu yet? That is, one that runs bleeding edge from cvs.08:43
robotgeekhaffe: dapper doesn't break enough for you :P08:43
hafferobotgeek: No, dapper is quite stable on my machine.08:44
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robotgeekhaffe: lucky you, not on my machine08:44
haffeOnly bad thing with dapper is that I can't play video fullscreen yet.08:44
neoncodeso, how do I make iptables awnser a DNS request?08:44
robotgeekhaffe: mplayer?08:45
haffeCan't seem to find that package i apt-get08:46
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hoobustinkin ubuntu where is the default rules saved for iptables?08:48
andreiadept and synaptic is telling me that the last version of firefox is 1.07... i know that is not true... maybe i need to add some repositories... witch ones ?08:48
hoobustinkwhich file is loaded for iptables in iptables? /etc/where?08:48
_grigoryhaffe: that(fullscreen video) could also be because of the _not-so-new_ video drivers08:48
haffeProbably.08:49
Dany<_grigory> i find you :)08:49
haffeI haven't had the energy to investigate since dapper will be released in a month or so.08:49
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_grigoryhaffe: i had that problem, new ati drivers - and yay, works08:50
haffeOk.08:50
_grigoryDany: good for you08:50
hoobustinki wanna do iptables-save but i dont know where to save this08:50
haffe_grigory: Ok, i have a 7800gtx, with newest drivers.08:50
_grigoryandrei: try installing it manually08:50
hoobustinkin fedora it is at /etc/sysconfig/iptables  what about in ubuntu where?08:50
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_grigoryhaffe: well, it worked only after i used automatix to install all those driver\player\codec thingies08:51
robotgeek!automatix08:51
ubotuAutomatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.08:51
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_grigoryeasyubuntu?08:51
robotgeekhaffe: zoom = yes in ~/.mplayer/mplayer.conf08:52
hafferobotgeek: I can't install mplayer.08:52
andrei_grigory: you mean with a apt-get call ?08:52
hoobustinkwhat ftp program to install is the most secure and can do virtual user accounts?08:54
_grigoryandrei: here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%281.5%29%7C%28firefox%29 are the instructions08:54
andrei_grigory: thanx.... i'll do that .... but why isn't the latest version (of more programs not just firefox) listed in adept ? can i do something about it ?08:57
hoobustinkhow do i restart sshd in ubuntu? does it have like service ssh restart?08:57
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_grigoryandrei: i really don't know, i looked for 1.5 in the repos, couldn't find it, so i just did what that article said08:58
hoobustinkiptables -A block -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT08:58
hoobustinkopps sorry08:58
hoobustink/etc/ssh# sshd08:59
hoobustinksshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path08:59
hoobustink:((08:59
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_grigorycan anyone suggest _goog_ begginer's manual to C\C++?09:01
haffeTry C++ direct by Steven Prata.09:02
haffe_grigory: Are you just begining programing?09:02
_grigorymy most advanced program was winsock chat in VB09:03
_grigoryso i know the basics09:03
haffeOk, because C++ isn't a good beginers language.09:03
_grigoryyeah, that's why i started off with... mm... QBasic, about 7 years ago :) then stopped for a while though09:04
haffeOk.09:04
_grigoryand by the way, is there a way to install .ini driver files made for windows in kubuntu?09:05
haffeUmmm, I don't think so.09:05
haffeThe closest is ndiswrapper.09:05
_grigorya friend of mine have this asus wi-fi adapter, and is struggling installing it. one of the forum thread said to try that09:05
_grigoryoh, ok, ill digg into it09:06
haffeHow happy I am that I sprung for a Linksys with a rt2500chip.09:06
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hoobustinkhow can my firefox or konqueror load a java program? can the plugin be installed using apt-get ?09:14
robotgeek!javadebs09:16
robotgeekubotu: tell hoobustink about javadebs09:16
robotgeekhoobustink: download and install using "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"09:17
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_juhachecking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld09:19
_juhachecking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld09:19
_juhachecking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld09:19
_juhachecking for gcc... no09:19
_juhachecking for cc... no09:19
robotgeek!paste09:19
ubotuDon't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.09:19
_juhachecking for cc... no09:19
_juhachecking for cl... no09:19
_juhaconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH09:19
_juhaWTF?09:19
_juhahelp me09:19
robotgeek_juha: don't paste here09:19
_juhasorry09:19
robotgeek_juha: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"09:19
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hoobustinkj2rel or j2sdk?? which one robotgeek ?09:21
robotgeekhoobustink: j2re should be enuf09:22
Dasnipa`sdk = developers kit09:23
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hoobustinkanyone knows where to load my iptables scripts command during boot?09:30
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CaptainbrailleHi, I'm trying to use "wine," but I keep getting this error "err:winecfg:load_drives GetVolumeInformation() for 'D:\' failed, setting serial to 009:36
Captainbrailleerr:winecfg:load_drives GetVolumeInformation() for 'E:\' failed, setting serial to 0"    What does that mean?09:36
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rysiek|plhi all09:38
_juhai need ubuntuaddons.zip were i go and download it09:39
rysiek|pltalking about that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnofficialUbuntu504AddOnCD ?09:41
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_juharysiek|pl: link dosnt work09:59
rysiek|plhuh?10:03
rysiek|pl_juha: the add-on CD link?10:04
_juhayep10:04
rysiek|plwell, it works on my box10:04
rysiek|pltried pinging?10:04
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_juhaPage not found10:05
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_juhaNow, there's an [WWW]  Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Add-On CD i klik this link10:06
rysiek|plyup, it's a wikipage with info on the add-on cd10:07
rysiek|plthat's what I've found searching google for ubuntu addons10:07
_juhahttp://www.ubuntulite.org/ubuntu_lite1.1.iso whats this?10:12
rysiek|plhttp://www.ubuntulite.org/10:14
rysiek|plread that :)10:14
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alanonHow do I define default gpu in xorg.conf?10:16
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CaptainbrailleAnyone know how to fix 'wine' so it can load cdrom drives and the jack library?10:21
rysiek|pltried winetools?10:22
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Captainbraillelemme check it's a package, eh?10:23
rysiek|plnope, unfortunately not10:23
rysiek|plgimme a sec10:23
Captainbrailleoh, what is it? okay10:23
rysiek|plhttp://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/10:24
rysiek|plthat'll help you setup wine nice, easy and working (it even install... Internet Explorer for you :]  )10:24
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Captainbraillelol, thanks rysiek|pl10:26
rysiek|plno prob10:26
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neoncodeHow do I assign a new IP to my computer? prefrably while keeping the old one? is that possible?10:30
rysiek|plneoncode: let me guess: you actually have a laptop that you move from, say, work, to, say, home10:31
rysiek|pl:)10:31
rysiek|pland you want to have your work-IP used while in work and your home-IP used while at home, right?10:32
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neoncoderysiek|pl: No, i'm trying to get gamecube linux running and I carn't be bothered to hex-edit the gc-linux image to change the IP address it looks for the nbd share on.10:32
rysiek|ploh10:33
neoncode:)10:34
neoncodeso, how do I do it?10:34
rysiek|plok, anyways, that should be fairly easy ;)10:34
neoncodehow?10:34
rysiek|pledited any conf files yet?10:34
rysiek|pljust open Konsole10:34
neoncoderysiek|pl: I <3 xorg.conf.10:35
neoncodewitch file do I need to edit?10:35
rysiek|plgreat :) you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces10:35
rysiek|plman interfaces will tell you a *lot*10:35
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neoncoderysiek|pl: Do what do I change...10:36
neoncode*so what do I change sorry10:36
rysiek|plbasically you have to add a new stanza to that file - read the manpage and you should know what to do10:36
neoncodeok10:36
grajkoorysiek | pl: na tym ircu marnuje sie Twoj potencja chopie.. :P ;)))10:36
rysiek|plrofl, potencjal do czego? ciezko pracuje wlasnie nad stworzeniem sobie wypasionego usplasha :P10:37
grajkoozatem milej i owocnej pracy ...10:38
rysiek|pldzieki :)10:38
grajkoorowniez wracam do dlubania w systemie..:P10:39
rysiek|plheh10:40
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KaoticEvilhey everyone :)10:41
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rysiek|plhowdy10:45
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KaoticEvilanyone know of an email client that can import messages and contacts from a PST file?10:48
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DjDarkmanhy ,everytime i put in a cd or a dvd in my drive ,a konqueror pops up ,it`s anoying ,how can i get rid of it?10:50
tomas_hi guys, it seems that there is some problem with my /etc/hosts or something. everytime i start dapper my internet doesnt start and i have to do a sudo dhclient eth0 manually :/10:51
tomas_it have worked before10:51
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rysiek|plDjDarkman: I have been looking for a way to disable that for a week now. :/10:53
rysiek|plKaoticEvil: try KMail and Thunderbird10:53
rysiek|pltomas_: it's rather the /etc/network/interfaces file10:54
rysiek|pltomas_: are you using DHCP?10:54
DjDarkmangrr i heard it`s a kubuntu issue ,i hate this media thing...10:54
rysiek|plshit, obviously you do :] 10:54
rysiek|plDjDarkman: yep, but it's in the config *somewhere*10:54
tomas_rysiek|pl: yes, and I have a router also. but it worked before10:54
rysiek|pltomas_: ok, have you ever edited any config files before? :)10:55
tomas_rysiek|pl: off course :)10:55
tomas_rysiek|pl: im not a n00b ;)10:55
KaoticEvilrysiek|pl: neither of them can read a PST file :(10:55
tomas_DjDarkman: cant it be changed in system settings?10:56
rysiek|plKaoticEvil: then try googling for a converter, or something like that10:56
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DjDarkmantomas_: nope ,it`s not there10:56
tomas_DjDarkman: in service detection or whatever its called (i have it in swedish)10:56
rysiek|pltomas_: it can - in Dapper, KDE3.5.x10:56
tomas_aha10:56
rysiek|plI have got 5.10, KDE 3.4, so I'm on my own here10:56
KaoticEvilrysiek|pl: hmmm.. ok... ill give that a go10:56
tomas_:/10:57
rysiek|plwell, back to the dhcp prob10:57
tomas_rysiek|pl: yes, please10:57
rysiek|pltry editing /etc/network/interfaces10:57
DjDarkmanservice detection?10:57
rysiek|plthe man will tell you a lot bout that file (man  interfaces)10:57
DjDarkmanhmmm i`ll give it a try10:57
rysiek|plDjDarkman: It should be in System Settings, if you have KDE 3.510:58
DjDarkmanrysiek|pl: i have kde3.4.310:58
tomas_auto eth010:58
tomas_iface eth0 inet dhcp10:58
tomas_shouldnt that work :/10:58
tomas_=?10:58
rysiek|plit should :/10:58
tomas_yes10:58
rysiek|plok, try ifconfig10:58
tomas_moki10:58
tomas_ifconfig what?10:59
tomas_i have used it for statically setting ip10:59
DjDarkmani tried kde3.5.1 a few weaks ago ,but it was very unstable and consumed too much resources10:59
tomas_but nothing else10:59
tomas_DjDarkman: dapper works like a charm, almost :p10:59
rysiek|pljust ifconfig (will write out your network interfaces settings)10:59
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rysiek|plgimme a sec10:59
DjDarkmantomas_: maybe i`ll try dapper via vmware :D10:59
tomas_yes i know but what good will that do=?11:00
tomas_DjDarkman: ;)11:00
DjDarkmantomas_: the last time i wanted to ugrade to dapper ,i had to reinstall everything because of that11:00
DjDarkmanand i din`t migrate to ubuntu ,to always reinstall11:00
tomas_DjDarkman: its better to do a fresh install, i have myself done the misstake of upgrading from breezy11:01
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DjDarkmantomas_: i think it should upgrade nicely if the stable dapper will be out11:01
tomas_DjDarkman: hopefully11:01
tomas_rysiek|pl: maybe this is a bug11:02
rysiek|plok, I'm back11:02
tomas_rysiek|pl: i could just create a file that has dhclient eth0 in it :/ and run it at boot time11:02
tomas_rysiek|pl: but that wouldn't be a solution :p11:02
rysiek|plno, definetely not :)11:02
DjDarkmanso u say ,i`ll haveto w8 till dapper to kill that popup konqueror?11:02
rysiek|pltomas_: execute ifconfig and tell me, if there is a section for eth0 in it11:03
rysiek|plDjDarkman: maybe you'll get lucky and find the bloody config file11:03
tomas_rysiek|pl: yes it is, i have a internet connect, i used sudo dhclient eth0 to get it up11:03
rysiek|plah, right :] 11:04
rysiek|plok, do: /etc/init.d/ networking restart11:04
rysiek|pland if something goes wrong - sudo dhclient eth011:04
tomas_aha :p11:04
tomas_it complains about something :p11:05
tomas_thank you :)11:05
rysiek|plbut immidiately after networking restart - do ifconfig11:05
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rysiek|pland see if your eth0 got configured by itself ;)11:05
rysiek|pl?11:05
tomas_thanks, i will look at it11:05
rysiek|pltomas_: it complains about what? :)11:05
tomas_a line11:05
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tomas_which i will delete11:05
rysiek|plwhich line :)11:06
tomas_no important just my second network card that i dont use11:06
rysiek|plwait11:06
rysiek|plsometimes it's the small things11:06
tomas_no11:06
tomas_it was no important, believe me :)11:06
tomas_im gonna do a reboot now11:06
rysiek|plok, have it your way :)11:06
tomas_see ya11:06
rysiek|plwait11:06
tomas_thank you :)11:06
rysiek|plwhy reboot?11:06
tomas_cause i want too :P11:06
tomas_see ya soon :P11:06
tomas_thanks11:06
tomas_bye11:06
rysiek|plwhatever :)11:07
rysiek|plcu11:07
rysiek|plI just don't get that guy - why reboot when /etc/init.d/networking will give him the same effect?..11:07
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tomas_rysiek|pl: guess what, it works ;)11:13
rysiek|plyay  :)11:14
tomas_thanks :)11:14
rysiek|plnext time - don't reboot, just do /etc/init.d/networking restart11:14
rysiek|plit'll do exactly the same thing for the network interfaces :)11:15
tomas_i know i know and i did, i just wanted to check11:15
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rysiek|pl:)11:15
tomas_btw, do you know anything about vloopback?11:15
rysiek|plwhat's "vloopback"?11:15
tomas_:p11:16
tomas_you know amsn and kopete?11:16
rysiek|plI use kopete a bit11:16
tomas_they only work with v4l devices and my firewire camcorder isnt one.11:16
tomas_vloopback should be able to take a firewire stream and turn it into a v4lstream from what i have read11:16
rysiek|plthat's something I haven't got a slightest notion of idea about :)11:17
tomas_no one seems to :/11:17
tomas_anyway11:17
tomas_got to do some work11:17
tomas_take care11:17
tomas_bye11:17
rysiek|plcu11:19
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rysiek|plbe right back11:39
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freeflyinghttp://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?p=55034#5503411:47
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rysiek|plI'm back11:48
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rysiek|planyone knows, why the Redmond ksplash engine won't place the Action Text where I set it? (Action Text Position = 20,2012:23
rysiek|pl)12:23
rysiek|pl?12:23
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rysiek|plok, nevermind, found the culprit12:26
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Danywho can help me with ndiswrapper &12:43
HobbseeDany: !ndiswrapper12:44
Hobbseeworks pretty well12:44
Dany<Hobbsee> ^(12:44
Hobbsee!ndiswrapper12:44
ubotuit has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper12:44
HobbseeDany: work through that guide, and tell us where it stops working :D12:44
Dany<Hobbsee>  i have asus wl 161 wriles adapter12:45
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Dany<Hobbsee> driver on asus.com12:45
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Danynot support kubuntu12:45
Hobbsee!wireless12:46
ubotuit has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers12:46
Dany<Hobbsee> yes12:46
Dany<Hobbsee> ndiswrapper work correct12:47
Danybut devise12:47
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HobbseeDany: right, so what's your question then?12:47
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Dany<Hobbsee>  why devise dont work &12:49
Danysorry fommy english12:49
Hobbseeso...ndiswrapper works, yet the device doesnt?12:50
Danyyen12:50
Danyyes12:51
Danyndiswrapper install inf file12:51
rysiek|plbrb12:51
nukydoes anyone know what this error means when trying to mount an external USB drive? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/584852 i've formatted it previously in windows using NTFS.12:51
Hobbseenuky: paste your /etc/fstab to pastebin?12:52
Hobbseei have a problem with kubuntu dapper - with user 1, networking works before i log into kdm, yet stops somewhere during the login splash screen.  with user 2, following the same steps, this does not occur.  Does anyone know which files in ~/ would be effecting this?  Or should I ditch the entire profile, and start again?12:53
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ronaldson40how do i use my Irda port on my laptop12:53
ronaldson40is there a GUI package for it12:54
nukythis is my /etc/fstab: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/58485912:54
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ronaldson40And I have a toshiba satellite pro M3012:55
nukywhen i do it through the terminal using "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbext" it mounts but i can't access it, even as root.. so i tried using the gui.. and i got the error message i showed before12:55
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paineshi12:56
ronaldson40So if i add this line will it work for me12:56
Hobbseenuky: is the sdb1 really ext2?12:57
ronaldson40where can i get a guide on fstab12:57
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nukyyes.. i think so..12:57
Hobbseeronaldson40: man fstab12:57
ronaldson40anyway  where is the gui for Irda12:57
Hobbseenuky: i'd try checking man fstab to see that you got the syntax for the options correct...12:58
ronaldson40On my windows I had a panel to enable the irda port12:58
Hobbseeronaldson40: apt-cache search irda12:58
nukythanks, i'll check it now12:58
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ronaldson40This is wat i am getting01:00
ronaldson40http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/58486601:00
ronaldson40so wat do i do01:01
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nukyi've mounted my external usb drive but i can't access it as user. is the command to change the permissions, "sudo chmod 775 /mnt/usbext"? that doesn't seem to work..01:22
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alexandreHi guys!01:31
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alexandreI'm new to Kubuntu (I've been using plain Ubuntu until now). I'm trying to set up kdm to show a user list, so they can simply click on their picture to login. Does anybody know how to do that? I knew how to do it with gdm.01:33
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alexandreHello? Is anybody here?01:34
painesyes01:35
painesbe patient01:35
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oskarihello everybody02:08
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LeeJunFananyone know of a battery charge graphing util for ACPI (not APM)? I think I have a misbehaving battery that instantly loses charge after a few mins use.02:36
painesLeeJunFan, ksensors02:37
LeeJunFanpaines: thanks.02:37
painesisn't lee jun fan the name of the master of the green sword in the movie crouching tiger hidden dragon ?02:39
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marcezhi all02:42
marcezhow can i restart net?02:42
marcezi need a shell command02:42
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paines/etc/init.d/networking restart02:44
marcezthanks02:44
LeeJunFanpaines: I dunno about that, if it is I didn't catch it. It's actually the birth name of Bruce Lee.02:45
painesLeeJunFan, ic.02:46
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_pakoc' qualche italiano che puo' aiutarmi?02:52
maentyhi, all02:54
ryanakca!it02:54
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:54
maentyI just finished installing Kubuntu.. however, when it loads the OS, no picture is sent to monitor anymore02:55
maentyProbably when it starts X.02:55
Olegsguys do you know when licq 1.3.2 will be available for Kubuntu?02:56
ryanakcaever since I updated xserver-xorg-core, I only have 2 resolution choices... 640x680 and 800x600. How do I get my original 1240x768. and yes, I have run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I'm on dapper, btw02:56
pulverOlegs: im running it now so it must be in the dapper repos02:57
Olegshm02:57
ryanakcaOlegs: to dapper or breezy?02:57
Olegsbreezy02:57
ryanakcaOlegs: it will never be added...02:57
Olegs:(02:57
Olegstoo bad02:57
Olegsdapper is no use for me yet02:57
ryanakcaOlegs: the packages in a stable version of ubuntu/kubuntu are frozen meaning no upgrades will be added02:57
Olegsryanakca: can I add from dapper repos?02:58
Olegsto breezy?02:58
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ryanakcaOlegs: I dont think so...02:58
bla|patrickhi02:58
ryanakcaOlegs: can you compile from source?02:58
bla|patrickgood topic... need a howto that explains how to compile a driver for (k)ubuntu02:59
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marcezthat command don't work very well02:59
marcezi had to reboot02:59
Olegsryanakca: I will try if there will be no deb package03:00
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Olegsbecause it requires certain libs that are not avalable in stable breezy as well.03:00
bla|patrickok... i need a general how to that explains how to compile :|03:00
bla|patrickand 2nd question.03:00
bla|patricki have a surce driver for my wifi usb stick03:00
bla|patrickdo i need kernelmodules for this driver?03:01
ateveshi, i have a question concerning the kubuntu install CD. in ubuntu, the package ndiswrapper-utils is part of the CD. i can only go online via WLAN, so i cannot download it once kubuntu is installed. so i have to know if it is part of the CD.03:01
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bla|patrick...03:02
bla|patrick:'(03:02
bla|patrickhelp :|03:03
ryanakcaOlegs: why dont you just update to dapper?03:06
ryanakcaOlegs: if you want it THAT bad....03:06
Olegsdapper is beta stage now03:06
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OlegsAFAIK . and according  to changelog it has no i18n sypport.03:06
ryanakcaOlegs: so... you could test it...03:06
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ryanakcaOlegs: ahh... meh... you could also wait a month or two till dapper is released03:07
Olegsryanakca: I'm testing too many things already - need something working, do I :)03:07
Olegsryanakca: sure, yes.03:07
ryanakcaever since I updated xserver-xorg-core, I only have 2 resolution choices... 640x680 and 800x600. How do I get my original 1240x768. and yes, I have run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I'm on dapper, btw03:07
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pradeeptoRiddell: around?03:10
ryanakcayes... I was about to ask that too03:11
ryanakcafor some reason the adept-updater wants to remove kubuntu-desktop, and he's the maintainer...03:11
pradeeptoryanakca: heh , off all things kubuntu-desktop???03:12
ryanakcayes... and I want to keep kubuntu-desktop03:13
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pulverryanakca, i may be wrong about this, but doesn't it want for some pkg to remove an openoffice dependancy (+openoffice), and openoffice is in the kubuntu-desktop meta-pkg03:25
ryanakcaahh... meh... I just wont upgrade.... I'll wait for someone to fix the repositories...03:26
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pulverhehe yeah..03:28
pulverthats what i did anyway, let it remove openoffice and reinstalled in afterwards, may be some better way though, im pretty new at this03:28
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bufalo_1973hello03:32
maentyHi, all! Could someone help me with Xorg-porblem?03:32
bufalo_1973I have a problem with my mouse (well, trackball): middle clicking does nothing03:33
maentyAny experts around?03:33
ryanakcamaenty: Help us help you by telling us your question :)03:33
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maentyryanakca: The question is: I keep getting "No Signal" after it starts the X03:33
maentyryanakca: I have already edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put the right refresh rates there, no help03:34
ryanakcamaenty: I'm not expert in X, but I'll try to help you...03:34
maentyryanakca: I have been told that nofs might help, but I don't know how to use nofs03:34
ryanakcatry running this: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:34
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maentyI just finished installing Kubuntu, the first time I tried to load it did that already03:35
maentybtw, it never asked me root password yet.. sudo asks pw, right?03:36
maentyI mean I haven't typed in root password anywhere03:36
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ryanakcamaenty: odd... sorry... I dunno....03:37
maentyI tried startx -fs nofs03:37
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maentydidn't help03:37
ryanakcawait... no03:38
ryanakcano no no... I'm still half asleep03:38
maentyI don't know how to use that -nofs thing03:38
ryanakcasudo asks you for your user password03:38
maentyah.. ok03:38
ryanakcayou will never be asked for a root password because there is none, as a security feature....03:38
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maentyI thought sudo is a command where you can run a command as root03:38
ryanakcait is03:38
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ryanakcayou just put in your normal password03:39
maentyin ubuntu/kubuntu it's different? alright03:39
maentyroger that03:39
ronaldson40nuky are u there03:39
maentyryanakca: when i type this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, will it ask me to give in some parameters?03:40
ryanakcayes03:40
ryanakcamaenty: open konsole03:40
ronaldson40or could someone help me with my SD card reader03:40
ryanakcamaenty: then type this in: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:40
maentyryanakca: I'm currently in Windows XP, I have to boot back to linux03:40
ryanakcamaenty: it'll ask for a password. type in the password you used to log in03:40
ryanakcaok... I'll explain it to you first03:41
ronaldson40Anybody with a toshiba laptop with SD card reader..?03:41
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ryanakcait'll look as if the password isnt being typed in, if your used to windows, but it is.... the space after "Password:" is supposed to remain blank, even while you type your password03:41
ryanakcathen hit enter, and it'll connect you.03:42
ryanakcamaenty: mind if I msg you?03:42
maentyokay, so it's same as when I connect to a linux shell with putty, the *s never show03:43
ryanakcayes03:43
maentyryanakca: no, I'm very thankful for your help, msg me plese03:43
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ronaldson40Anybody with knowledge of SD card config03:44
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rysiek|plronaldson40: what do you need?03:47
ronaldson40hi03:49
ronaldson40See i have a toshiba03:49
rysiek|playe03:49
ronaldson40when i put in the SD card into the slot03:49
ronaldson40it does not detect anythin03:49
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rysiek|plfirst question: do you have Windows installed on that box too?03:50
ronaldson40yes03:50
ronaldson40why03:50
rysiek|pland it detects it ok?03:50
ronaldson40yes in windows it works03:51
rysiek|pl(just making sure it's not a hardware problem)03:51
ronaldson40http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/58486603:51
rysiek|plok, let's start the debugging then ;)03:51
ronaldson40this is my fstab03:51
ronaldson40sorry ignore that03:51
rysiek|plhuh?03:51
ronaldson40thats the wrong paste03:51
rysiek|plyep, it is :)03:52
rysiek|plwe don't need ftsab at the moment03:52
ronaldson40k03:52
rysiek|plhotplug subsystem should detect it and mount it, without it being included in fstab03:52
ronaldson40when i insert the card into the slot it does not detect it03:53
rysiek|plso: remove the SD card if it's inside, then do (in console): sudo dmesg -c03:53
rysiek|pl(that'll clean-up all the debug messages, so that next time we get only those card-related)03:53
ronaldson40do u want to see it or its ok03:54
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rysiek|plno, not now03:54
rysiek|pljust ignore the output03:54
ronaldson40k03:54
rysiek|plok, now insert the card03:54
rysiek|plwait a few seconds03:55
rysiek|pland: sudo dmesg03:55
rysiek|pl(or dmesg without sudo - it should work too, actually)03:55
ronaldson40yah did that03:55
rysiek|pland past the output in pastebin03:55
ronaldson40nothin is showing ....03:55
rysiek|plhmmm03:55
ronaldson40its just goin to the next prompt03:55
rysiek|plok, let's tru something else then03:56
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ronaldson40k03:56
rysiek|plls -l /dev/sd*03:56
rysiek|plwait03:56
rysiek|plwrong :)03:56
ronaldson40k03:56
rysiek|plls -l /dev/ | grep sd03:56
rysiek|plany sda's or sdb's or sdc's or sdd's in output?03:57
_asmerkina question. Do you know a graphical interface for Wine?03:57
_asmerkinKde interface03:57
ronaldson40one sec03:58
rysiek|pl_asmerkin: never heard of anything like that, but try winetools03:59
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rysiek|pl_asmerkin: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/03:59
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ronaldson40rysiek|pl04:00
ronaldson40i will paste it??04:00
ronaldson40http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/58505404:00
ronaldson40check this link04:00
rysiek|plok, checking04:01
rysiek|plI'm looking into it, and you might want to check these out:04:01
rysiek|plhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75678.html04:01
rysiek|plhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23554.html04:01
rysiek|plok, great, so we have the bastard detected - or at least so it looks like04:02
rysiek|plronaldson40: pastebin me your fstab now, if you can04:02
ronaldson40k04:03
ronaldson40http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/58506504:04
rysiek|plsmashing :)04:05
rysiek|plnow do from console:04:06
ronaldson40k04:06
rysiek|plsudo mkdir /media/sd_card04:06
rysiek|plsudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sd_card04:06
ronaldson40k done04:06
rysiek|plthese should give no output04:06
ronaldson40mount: you must specify the filesystem type04:07
rysiek|plmounted?04:07
rysiek|plaa04:07
maentyCould anyone help me and tell what is nofs and how to enable it?04:07
ronaldson40I am gettin this04:07
rysiek|plthought so04:07
rysiek|plgimme a sec04:07
maentynofs apparently should help me to start X without having "no signal" in the screen.04:07
maentyall refresh rates and other stuff is ok, so it has to be this nofs thing04:08
rysiek|plronaldson40: try: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sd_card04:08
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ronaldson40k04:11
ronaldson40root@RON:~# sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sd_card04:11
ronaldson40mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/sd_card busy04:11
ronaldson40mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /media/sda104:11
rysiek|pld'oh. ok, not bad :)04:11
rysiek|plnow, do you remember what files you had on this sd?04:11
rysiek|pl(so that we know that we've mounted the right device ;) )04:12
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ronaldson40yes04:13
rysiek|plok, so now: sudo ls -l /media/sd_card/04:13
rysiek|pland tell me, if these are the right files ;)04:14
ronaldson40sda1 is my ntfs EXt HDD04:14
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ronaldson40i am still grtting the same thing04:14
Ras420hello, i am running kubuntu 5.10, and i am trying to install wine, (also i just installed fresh couple hours ago) so i used the apt-get command to install gcc, but i keep getting this error" configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" i am also very new to debian type systems04:15
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rysiek|plronaldson40: what thing? and why didn't you tell me you know what sda1 is? :] 04:15
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ronaldson40sorry04:16
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rysiek|plronaldson40: what is the "thing" you're getting?04:18
HymnToLifeRas420> why the hell do you want to install gcc ?04:20
HymnToLifeit has nothing to do with wine04:20
Ras420to compile04:20
HymnToLifeyou don't need to04:20
HymnToLifethere are binary packages of wine around04:20
rysiek|plgimme a sec, I'll give you guys the repos ;)04:20
rysiek|pl# wine repos04:21
rysiek|pldeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/04:21
Ras420HymnToLife: yeah, i just like to compile from source04:21
HymnToLifeRas420> really ?04:21
rysiek|plthe gentoo way :)04:21
HymnToLifeit's lots of hassle for nothing :/04:21
HymnToLifeyeah, get gentoo then lol04:22
HymnToLifeand I think if you "like to compile", you would have build-essential instlled ;)04:22
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rysiek|plHymnToLife: well, the hassle sometimes pays - e.g. I *need* to compile clamav, for example (the repo's binary is always outdated)04:23
HymnToLiferysiek|pl> yeh but not always04:23
HymnToLifeespecially for beginners ;)04:23
rysiek|pltrue... true...04:24
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Ras420HymnToLife: im a former freebsd user, and it just seemed like everything worked better when it is compiled from source, so everything is native to the system, i could be completely wrong, but thats what i am used to doing04:28
HymnToLifewell04:28
HymnToLifeif you still want to compile from source04:28
HymnToLiferun sudo apt-get install build-essential04:29
HymnToLifeto get rid of that error ;)04:29
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Ras420ok04:29
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HymnToLifeand also sudo apt-get build-dep wine04:29
HymnToLifeto install all the headers and libraries needed for compiling04:29
Ras420oh04:30
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rysiek|plok, gonna play some nasty quake or freeciv, cu all later :)04:31
Ras420E: Unable to find a source package for wine04:31
rysiek|plRas420:04:32
rysiek|pladd this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:04:32
rysiek|pldeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/04:32
rysiek|pldeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/04:32
brodelis there a way for meto turn off the trash?  I am never going to use it.04:33
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rysiek|pl(I think its "source/" but you better check it on sourceforge)04:33
rysiek|plbrodel: use Shift+Del every time ;)04:33
rysiek|plgotago, cu all04:33
ninHerhi all04:33
brodelYeah, I know that, bu tI was hoping I could just hit delete.04:34
brodelor do it via the mouse04:34
brodelif there was a delete option on the mouse menu that'd work fine.04:34
Ras420yup, that was correct url04:36
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Ras420well, thanx for the help04:38
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_mikehey guys i just updated to dapper... and now when i restart i never get into a graphical interface... im always stuck at the command prompt... how do i fix this?04:46
shawkinsupdating to dapper is not recommended for production environemtns..04:47
shawkinsas far as fixing it, consider typing startx in the command line04:47
_mikei did i got some x11 error04:47
shawkinsI've had reports of people not upgrading well to dapper, so this may not work04:48
shawkinsok, does it have internet access? or is it dial-up04:48
_mikehas internet04:48
shawkinsok, you updated to dapper through changing the sources or?04:48
_mikesources04:49
_mikeapt-get dist-upgrade04:49
shawkinsok, sweet, I had that same problem with my  currrent computer, however, I just did an update, so if you would, type 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'04:50
shawkinsif that doesn't work I really couldn't say what to do04:50
shawkinsbut I just did that not more then 5 minutes ago04:50
shawkinsand it fixed it fine04:50
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shawkinshowever, before doing it, make sure it doesn't remove kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-deskto04:50
shawkinsas it tried doing that to me, if it does try to do so just do a normal upgrade04:51
_mikeok im doing it now04:51
_mikei hope this works04:52
shawkinsI do too, because I don't know how to fix it otherwise04:52
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shawkinsof course.. if you did do an update not to long ago, it could have already taken out your ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop04:52
shawkinsso... once its done updating tell me, we'll see about the two *-desktops04:53
_mikewhen its done where woulkd i see that04:53
_mikeand it just finished04:54
shawkinsif you have ubuntu, type 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' if kubuntu, 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'04:54
shawkinsadding sudo in front of those04:54
_mikedamn04:55
_mikeit says i need to get 226mb of archives04:55
_mikei guess i didnt have it>?04:55
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shawkinsyeah, that'd be it04:56
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shawkinsdo you have dsl or any other highspeed?04:56
_mikecable04:56
grumyhallu04:56
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shawkinsok, then it shouldn't take to long, I have dsl and it only took 5 minutes or so04:56
shawkinshello grumy04:56
grumyhi shawkins04:57
_mikey would it remove the desktop04:57
shawkinsits a break in dapper04:57
grumyhow do u do?04:57
shawkinsit happens every so often, thats why its not made for production yet, if you still wish to use dapper, just be careful when updating04:57
shawkinsgrumy: pretty good... about to go to work :) all kinds of fun04:57
grumyi wanna ask sumthing04:57
shawkinswhats that?04:58
grumyhow to install yahoo messenger04:58
_mikeonce the final version is out...will i be able to update it through the beta dapper no probleM?04:58
pussfelleri should be able to watch vids stored on a remote samba resource thru a wireless connection, right04:58
pussfellerthats not that much thruput04:58
pussfellerbut xine is choppy04:59
shawkinsI don't know if there is a yahoo messenger for linux, however, use gaim or kopete depending of in you have kubuntu or ubuntu, take some getting used to, but not to hard04:59
grumyi know05:00
grumyim used it rite now05:00
grumybut some features that gaim not support05:00
_mikeshawkins: and what do u prefer gnome or kde and y?05:00
shawkinsyes _mike, it'll be a simple apt-get dist-upgrade, I do it every so often to get the latest updates, every few days05:00
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shawkins_mike kde by far, I love all of its programs it has intergrated with it, Allows me to do almost anything I want, its own browser, chat programs, development programs, everything I need05:01
shawkinsgrumy may I ask what it doesn't support?05:01
grumy1. windows user cannot send file05:02
pussfellerthe av stuff related to IM progs is iffy at this point in linux05:02
_mikeand did i lose all my files in the update?,,, just curious05:02
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shawkinsgrumy I would try kopete, but I don't know anything else to try05:02
_mikelike my mp3s and documents... i also had stuff on my desktop05:02
shawkins_mike you should be fine, doing updates only updates the system, nothing more, I gotta go05:02
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shawkinsthey should all be there05:02
_mikeok thanks05:02
_miketake care05:02
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oskariwho use kaffeine or xmms05:27
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k-mandlaHI!05:31
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Kr4t05Well, I just completely removed GNOME05:34
Kr4t05Yay 4 me.05:34
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noteventime'ello05:38
k-mandlahowdy05:38
noteventimeI have a PDF file i want to OCR with kooka, Any ideas how?05:38
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eidolonhey folks, what's the 'current tech' as far as what to use for a media player - i'd like to view MOV's and MPG's.. and potentially WMF (using appropriate DLL's).  last time i set this up i used mplayer, but that was about a year ago.  suggestions?05:43
noteventimekaffeine05:44
noteventimeis the best KDE choice05:44
noteventimeAlthough MPlayer is still good05:44
eidolonkaffeine was crashing like crazy last time i tried it.05:45
Kr4t05I use XMMS, simply because I05:45
Kr4t05am used to Winamp05:45
eidolonuhh.  not for MOV and MPEGS you don't, do you?05:45
Kr4t05But, XMMS is audio only05:46
Kr4t05I missed that part of your question.05:46
Kr4t05:P05:46
eidolonright, that has very little to do with the question i asked, but thanks for playing :)05:46
Kr4t05sorry05:46
noteventimeXMMS is nice although I like using Kaffeine and amaroK better05:47
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eidolonamarok is fantastic, but is being twitchy for me :(05:47
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noteventimeaidolon: How?05:47
eidolonmayube because i'm running amarok with the artsd plugin... (cuz for some reason that's the only way i could get MP3's working)05:47
eidolonnoteventime: lockups.  stop playing.  having to use xkill to kill the process - hitting the 'play' button and nothing happening, etc.05:48
eidolonamarok IMHO is very poor at reporting when it has problems :(05:48
noteventime:) try running it through the conole05:48
noteventimeand read the output05:48
eidolonwelll, lets see.05:48
eidolon*tries*05:48
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noteventimehejsan :D05:49
eidolonworking cleanly now, figures.05:49
eidolonanyway, lemme try kaffeine on an mov file.05:49
noteventime:|, use it and hope it crashes :P05:50
noteventimeBy that i mean amaroK05:50
eidolonhee :)05:50
eidolonnow, on to kafeine :)05:50
larsiviis anyone using kmail/kpgp?05:53
eidolonin kaffeine, i do "open url"05:53
eidolonand type "http://www.dlmag.com/videos/CES2006-Dualcor-Interview-480-h264.mov"  (the mov i want to view)05:53
eidolonand get "No URI handler implemented for... (that url)"05:53
eidolonwtf?05:53
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eidoloni use kmail.05:54
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larsivieidolon: but do encrypt/decrypt openpgp messages?05:54
eidolonnope.05:54
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nxv__has anybody here an asus mypal running with synce and can help me getting it running too?06:01
k-mandlais anyone able to listen to the streaming audio at yahoo music/launchcast?06:06
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rysiek|plhi again06:18
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k-mandlahas anyone gotten kubuntu stickers from that site in germany?06:27
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maentyryanakca:06:32
rysiek|plnoteventime, got something for you: http://rysiek.ath.cx/stuff/usplash_test_640x480_matrix.tar.bz206:32
maentyhi ryanakca, thanks for trying to help earlier. I did get it finally to work by re-installing drivers. I am not allowed to send private messages06:32
rysiek|pl(if you're still interested in creating your own usplash theme, that is ;) )06:33
maentyryanakca: 16:55 [freenode]  -!- Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer.06:33
rysiek|plmaenty: register with freenode06:33
rysiek|plwhois maenty06:33
rysiek|plargh :)06:33
maentyryanakca: I wrote you many messages while you were helping me, but I later noticed the status window and realised that you didn't get any of my messages06:33
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neoncoderunning ksysgaurd as root(under kdesu) is safe right?06:45
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rysiek|plneoncode: I suppose it is, as long as you don't start to mess things up manually06:47
rysiek|pllike sending manually some strange signals to, say, init ;)06:48
neoncoderysiek|pl: The only reason i'm running it like that is that so I can kill applications. I don't know how to do it via the CLI.06:48
rysiek|plwell, as for the CLI:06:49
rysiek|plps aux | grep name_of_the_program06:49
rysiek|pland then kill process_id06:49
rysiek|plor kill -9 process_id06:49
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rysiek|plman kill - I would suggest reading this06:49
neoncoderysiek|pl: I haven't gotten the hang of pipes yet. and i'm still not sure what grep even does?...06:50
rysiek|pland if you need to kill the programs, you can use ksudo ksysguard, off course, but just saying you have to be careful *what* you kill06:50
rysiek|plnoencode: man grep? :)06:50
rysiek|plgrep filters the input06:50
rysiek|plgrep word - will give you all the lines from input, that contain the word06:51
rysiek|plso ps aux | grep app_name will give you information on all processes that have a anme "app_name" :)06:51
neoncoderysiek|pl: I'm playing with linux on my gamecube again, i'm running a nbd server apparently and when I launch it from konsole it returns me to the command prompt so I don't know how to stop it. Thus ksysgarud06:52
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rysiek|plnbd server? gimme a sec :)06:52
rysiek|pllike, Network Block Device?06:53
rysiek|pltried /etc/init.d/nbd start and /etc/init.d/nbd stop?06:53
rysiek|pl(or was it /etc/init.d/nbdd?..)06:54
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neoncoderysiek|pl: I dunno, it's just mentioned in the gc-linux guide...06:54
noteventimerysiek|pl: Hows usplash going?06:54
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neoncodeOh and is it normal to have about 10GB more free diskspace after emptying my trash? (on my computer, duh)06:55
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rysiek|plnoencode: ls -l /etc/init.d | grep nbd06:55
rysiek|pland paste the output here06:55
rysiek|plnoteventime: up-and-running, with my new slick usplash :)06:56
noteventimeNice06:56
noteventimehow?06:56
rysiek|plI've got something for you06:56
noteventimeok :)06:56
rysiek|plhttp://rysiek.ath.cx/stuff/usplash_test_640x480_matrix.tar.bz206:56
noteventime:D ok06:56
neoncoderysiek|pl: That command gives me nothing...06:57
rysiek|plnoteventime: there is/was a bug in usplash scripts, if you want it to run on any other mode than the standard one, just search google for +USplash +vesafb.ko +insmod +error06:57
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rysiek|plit's in the bugzilla06:57
rysiek|plnoencode: ok, so it's not there06:57
rysiek|pltry: man nbd06:57
rysiek|plmaybe you'll find some info there06:58
noteventime:D o06:58
noteventimek06:58
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neoncodeHow can I tell what programs are useing witch ports?07:00
rysiek|plhmmm... there was a way... look into /etc/services07:01
rysiek|pl!services07:01
ubotuI heard services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/07:01
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ryanakcamaenty: I see07:11
ryanakcamaenty go /msg NICKSERV REGISTER <password>07:12
ryanakcamaenty: then you'll be able to /msg07:12
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Canard_1When you use the file rollerand wish to extract a file to directory that you need root to write to, how do you do it?07:15
rysiek|plryanakca: off course you realise how hilarious what you've just said was? :)07:15
ryanakcarysiek|pl: yes, I do... 45 minutes after the event :)07:16
rysiek|plCanard_1: huh?07:16
rysiek|pl:)07:16
ryanakcarysiek|pl: I do tend to be a bit slow :P07:16
ryanakcarysiek|pl: I also do tend to eat lunch at 12:30 :)07:16
rysiek|plryanakca: you better hurry, then its 7pm already!07:16
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Canard_1I want to extract a file to /var . But it says I need root access to write to that directory. Is there any way to do it using the file roller?07:17
rysiek|pl"file roller"?07:17
ryanakcarysiek|pl: I take it your in europe somewhere.... and from your /whois, poland?07:18
Canard_1File Roller- It called itself ark.07:18
rysiek|plryanakca: well, ok, it's seven PM in Poland, got me there :)07:18
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rysiek|plCanard_1 - ah, the Ark :)07:19
rysiek|plCanard_1: I would suggest doing it a little differently07:19
rysiek|pl1. unpack the file to a directory you have write privs07:19
rysiek|pl2. copy the unpacked files to /var with: sudo cp source(s) destination07:20
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Canard_1Ahh... okay. I was just wondering if there was a shortcut. Is it the same with files. When I open a file I do not have write access to with the current account, is there any way to save it with the root account without opening up the terminal?07:21
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rysiek|plnothing I know about07:22
rysiek|plunless you start Ark with "Run as root" in KMenu07:22
Canard_1Ahh.. many thanks.07:22
rysiek|plno prob07:22
Canard_1Enjoy your lunch07:23
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ryanakcahmmm... I allready had my lunch, but thank-you, I did enjoy it :)07:25
Canard_1Well... carry it on to tommorow07:25
ryanakcalol, I will07:25
Canard_1Enjoy that lunch, and to a lesser extent your breakfast07:25
ryanakcalol... breakfast is WAY better than lunch.... :)07:25
rysiek|plWell, I still have my supper ahead of me ;)07:25
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Riddellpradeepto: hi07:34
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kj2006hello :)07:47
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kj2006does anybody here know parted in the knoppix implementation?07:49
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kj2006i have resized some ntfs partitions and i am now trying to format new reiserfs partition on the free space07:49
kj2006but the formatting options in the menu are greyed out07:50
kj2006anyone?07:50
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kj2006rysiek|pl: are you here?07:51
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slow-motionhallo07:54
ryanakcawhere is your public key and secret key saved?07:56
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rysiek|plkj2006: yep, what's up?08:01
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rysiek|plkj2006: can you pastebin or paste me on /msg the info on your partitions?08:02
asmerkinhi, i'm having problems with OpenGL08:03
rysiek|plasmerkin: what kind of problems?08:03
asmerkindo you know what i have to do to play games with opengl?08:03
asmerkini cant use aplications that uses opengl08:03
rysiek|plheh, have a 3d accelerated graphics card and proper drivers08:03
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rysiek|plwhat's your graphics card?08:03
asmerkinyeah, i've a GForce FX520008:04
ryanakcawhere is your public key and secret key saved?08:04
rysiek|plhuh?08:04
asmerkini have to install Nvidia drivers?08:04
asmerkinor kubuntu installed it?08:04
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rysiek|plasmerkin: I suppose you have to install them08:04
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rysiek|plubotu tell asmerkin about nvidia08:05
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rysiek|plryanakca: what's with the keys?08:05
ryanakcarysiek|pl: where are they saved?08:05
asmerkinthanks08:06
ryanakcarysiek|pl: gnupg.... pgp... encryption....08:06
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asmerkinwhat's ubotu?? its a bot?08:06
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rysiek|plasmerkin: yep08:07
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rysiek|plubotu tell asmerkin about ubotu08:07
praguehello everyone08:07
ryanakcaasmerkin: a severly bloated blootbot :)08:07
nukyhi, do you know what library i need to get jabber on kopete to work? i know it's a library for sll but i'm not sure which one it is..08:07
asmerkinahh, it's good08:07
rysiek|plryanakca: I don't. I don't have gpg nor pgp keys generated. only keys I have are ssh keys in ~/.ssh08:07
asmerkinubotu tell me about kernel08:07
nukysorry, i meant for ssl08:08
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rysiek|plnuky: ssl or ssh?08:08
rysiek|plnuky: ssh in ~/.ssh08:08
rysiek|plgotta go guys08:08
rysiek|plcu all later08:08
asmerkinthanks, i'm installing Nvidia drivers08:09
asmerkindo i have to install another package before use openGL Libaries?08:09
nukyssl.. because on the guidelines for setting up the connection it says to enable Use protocol encryption (SSL)...08:10
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nukyi found out that the package i have to install qca-tls.. but how do i get kopete to see where it is?08:16
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nukyis there any way of getting back the shell command history from before what's in the .bash_history file?08:31
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noclouddoes anybody know how to install ATI drivers on kubuntu?08:35
ufonocloud: dapper?08:36
ufohttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide there is for fglrx and dapper08:37
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_daniel_Hey anyone here able to run banshee ?08:38
noclouddoes the driver come included with the breezy install?08:39
nocloudor do i have to install itafter i install breezy?08:39
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_daniel_I get a dbus message error when run banshee08:40
_daniel_but Apparently is just a kubuntu problem08:40
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nocloudhow can i tell which video driver is currently installed on my system?08:43
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_daniel_nocloud, you look the modules that are loaded08:47
_daniel_and the modules you can load08:47
_daniel_and if you want to know exactly which module you are using look in xorg.cong08:47
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_daniel_s/cong/conf08:48
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kj2006wohoo!'08:51
kj2006!!08:51
ubotuparse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kj200608:51
kj2006successfull install08:51
kj2006the kubuntu unbstaller was actually very nice!08:52
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warnaudhello08:52
kj2006::=)08:53
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praguedamn this is a nice OS...08:53
kj2006<--happyhappyhappyjoyjoyjoyjoy ;)08:53
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benhi08:56
praguehi08:57
bencan anyone recomend a cd ripper other than kaudiocreator08:57
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benit's probably just me but i find it very hit and miss08:57
praguek3b08:57
praguebut i think there are some things that need to be installed first08:58
beni didn't know k3b can rip as well08:58
warnaudanybody can send me a link or telle me how to reconfigure locales in iso 8859-15 on dapper ( I have edited /etc/locale.alias and /etc/environment ) but I've got perl warning on executing dpkg-reconfigure locales08:59
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kj2006brb changing os for testing...again :-)09:00
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benthanks prague, it looks like K3b can rip09:04
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rysiek|plnoteventime: there was an error in that tar archive I gave you a link to09:08
benis dapper due to be released in March or April?09:08
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rysiek|plnow it's fixed (I have no idea, how did I manage to fcuk it up in the first plase o_O)09:08
rysiek|plben: 6.04 -> 04 is april I believe :)09:08
bentahnks09:08
rysiek|plno prob09:09
noteventimerysiak|pl:ok09:12
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asmerkinhi,09:23
asmerkincan you help me?09:23
asmerkinthe cdrom drive doesn't appear in media:/09:24
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kj2006and there09:24
kj2006now the winxp partition works too09:24
kj2006*signs a happy song* all installation complete :)09:25
asmerkinsombebody help me please09:25
kj2006lol sings even :)09:25
asmerkinthe cdrom drive doesn't appear in media:/09:25
noteventimeok09:25
noteventimeasmerkin: Take a look if its   listed in /etc/fstab09:25
asmerkinok09:26
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asmerkin# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>09:27
asmerkinproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       009:27
asmerkin/dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       109:27
asmerkin/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       009:27
asmerkin/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     vfat    defaults        0       009:27
robotgeekasmerkin: don't paste in here09:27
asmerkin/dev/hda4       none            swap    sw              0       009:27
asmerkin/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       009:27
asmerkin/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       009:27
asmerkin/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       009:27
asmerkini don't understand that09:27
asmerkinok09:27
asmerkinexcuse me09:27
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asmerkinwhat i have to do?09:28
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asmerkini need help09:29
gurumeditationerwith what?09:30
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nukyhey, i was wandering if someone could help me with an installation problem i have with kubuntu.. i want to install it on a sata drive machine but it halts during the installation at the part where you are meant to choose the partitions, saying that it did not find any available meadia to partition..09:32
nukydo you know why this is?09:32
sharp896your controller does not supply drivers that kubuntu can use09:33
sharp896something like that09:33
asmerkini need to put an access of the cdrom drive in media:/09:33
gurumeditationer#kwrite09:33
gurumeditationeroops wrong window09:33
asmerkini can't take out the cd09:33
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nukyi just googled controllers and linux installations but i'm a bit confused.. is that a thing in the BIOS? or something needed in the kernel of the distro that i'm installing?09:39
noteventimeasmerkin: Sorry I had to go for a while, try sudo umount /dev/cdrom009:40
noteventimeops09:41
noteventimei mean /media/cdrom009:41
rysiek|plnuky: what Kubuntu version, what disk vendor/model?09:42
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nukyi'm trying to install breezy... the pc i have is a fujitsu siemens scaleo p.. i'm trying to find out which model my disk is09:45
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noteventimenuky: Why?09:48
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nukyto see if there are drivers for it supported by linux.. hmmm09:50
asmerkinhow can i do for the cdrom drive appear in media:/09:50
noteventimeadd it to fstab, or use kcontrol09:52
noteventimenuky: There are VERY few HDs that aren't supported in Linux09:53
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asmerkinok09:53
nukyah i'm trying to install linux onto it.. it's a new pc with a single sata drive.. when i run the installtion cd, it halts at the point where the partitions are created, saying that it found no partitionable media..09:54
blackflaghello all09:55
blackflagi just install an IRC server09:55
blackflagircd-irc209:55
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blackflagbut canot find usefull documentation for it09:55
noteventimeman ircd09:56
noteventimemaybe09:56
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noteventimenuky: Kubuntu?09:56
noteventimenuky: Are you connected to the internet, which version is it?09:56
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nukyyeah, i'm trying to install kubuntu (breezy)09:57
ninHerhi all09:57
noteventimenuky: if your not afraid you could try dapper09:58
noteventimeninHer: 'ello09:58
nukyi am connected to the internet on this machine.. but i want to install kubuntu on another one..09:58
nukyoh, does that have sata support?09:58
ninHerhi noteventime09:58
nukyjust checking the site for dapper... thanks09:58
noteventimeI sun linux on sata09:58
blackflagalso man ircd is not really usefull09:58
noteventimeok09:58
nukywhat version of linux do you use?09:58
noteventime /etc/ircd?09:59
nukynoteventime: did you have to do anything other than the normal installation process to get it working?09:59
noteventimenuky: Nope10:00
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noteventimeNuky: you have free space, don't you?10:00
noteventimenon-partitioned10:00
nukyyeah i have a few partitions on the sata pc that are free10:00
noteventimenuky: You could delete the free partitions10:01
noteventimeI think kubuntu tries to make new ones10:01
noteventimeThat might be why it fails10:01
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nukyahhh i see what you mean.. i'll try that now..10:02
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nukyif it doesn't work, i think i'll try dapper.. it's only a month away from release right?10:02
noteventimeyes10:03
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simiani've tried dapper a couple of times but it always has problems with x10:04
noteventimesimian: Really, I've been running it for a while10:06
simiannoteventime: did you have to configure anything to get x working?10:07
simianI tried it on two different laptops and had the same problem, I must be really unlucky10:08
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sharp896ok, so installed kubuntu (5.10) and i get the login...and i login, and now it's my username@ubuntu:~$10:08
noteventimesimian: I'm running it on a laptop right now :D10:08
sharp896what do i do from here10:08
noteventimeYou have gotte ninto the terminal :S10:09
sharp896i too am running this on a sata laptop10:09
sharp896yeah...how do i get to the gui10:09
sharp896like how the live disc just puts you there10:09
noteventimetry this: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start10:09
sharp896password?10:10
noteventimesharp896: You should get into the GUI the same way the Live cd gets you, there must be something wrong10:10
noteventimesharp: Your password10:10
sharp896kdm already running10:10
noteventimeHmm try pressing ctrl + alt + f710:10
sharp896i just followed the setup like it said10:10
me2winstartx10:10
me2winsharp896, startx10:10
noteventimeHe shouldn't need startx10:11
me2wineither that or your runlevels are f00ked. you would have to run telinit 310:11
sharp896what does ctrl alt f7 do because it is just a blinking cursor now10:11
noteventime:S it should get you into GUI from terminal10:11
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noteventimeThere is something wrong with your GUI system10:11
me2winsharp896, when you start up the computer, it takes you straight to command line?10:11
noteventimeI think he gets to the KDM login10:12
sharp896when i press the power button, it says the runlevel is 010:12
noteventime(s)he*10:12
me2winlolz10:12
me2winyeah10:12
noteventime:)10:12
me2winyou need to change the runlevel, like i said10:12
me2windo this:    sudo telinit 310:12
sharp896i don't know how to do that10:12
sharp896ok, it's booting10:12
noteventimeI'm not prejudicious10:13
me2winheh10:13
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sharp896ok, it did this last time before i just reinstalled it again...it's 'checking battery state' and just sits there10:14
me2winrestart it10:14
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sorush20what package do I install to get osx style kde toolbar?10:15
sharp896that's where it sits when i restart10:17
sharp896just sits where it's checking the battery10:17
sharp896ok, starting from the beginning.  default install, press enter10:19
sharp896enter, enter, enter10:19
sharp896do not config network at this time10:20
sharp896hostname: ubuntu10:20
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Heinkelhello10:21
flixor-hy Heinkel10:21
Heinkeli have a fresh kubuntu install10:21
Heinkel5.1010:21
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Heinkeli have 5 partitions on my harddisk10:21
Heinkelit is dualboot10:21
Heinkel2 of the partitions are ntfs10:22
Heinkeli cannot access them10:22
Heinkel??10:22
me2winyou need to mount them Heinkel10:22
flixor-you have to mount them10:22
HymnToLife!tell Heinkel about ntfs10:23
flixor-do you know the linux names for those partions10:23
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Heinkelhey i thought they were mounted?10:23
me2win!mount10:23
ubotumount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f10:23
Heinkelin etc/fstab ...10:23
me2win!windowsdrives10:23
ubotufrom memory, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f10:23
Heinkel/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       010:23
Heinkel/dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults        0       010:23
Heinkeldoes not this mean that i have mounted?10:23
HymnToLife!tell Heinkel about pastebin10:24
noteventimeMeans you can mount10:24
sharp896ok, deleted all partitions, made a new primary partition of 10gb and a swap partition of 2gb10:24
HymnToLifethat's a big swap10:24
HymnToLifeho many RAM do you have ?10:24
sharp8962gb10:24
HymnToLifeyou don't even ned any swap with that much RAM...10:25
HymnToLifeneed*10:25
flixor-Heinkel: go to10:25
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Heinkeli found the doc....i am reading hard right now, will come back with questions (after further failures :P))10:25
flixor-ehm Heinkel do mount in the console so you can see wich partitions are mounted10:25
flixor-dont paste it here10:26
Heinkelfirst make directory in /media/, like /media/winxpsys - and then mount device to that directory..right?10:27
rysiek|plyep10:28
flixor-is your ntfs partion in /etc/fstab Heinkel10:28
Heinkelyes flixor10:28
rysiek|plok, gtg, cu all10:28
Heinkelit says filesystem = /dev/hda1 mount point = /media/hda110:29
me2win@chuck10:30
EruantalonHi, I am having troubles with my audio programs in kunbut. One day (I can't remeber wether I installed extra software or something...) amarok wouldn't start because of a segfault, same problem with mplayer and vlc. Juk and kaffeine runs with a problem... Could anyone tell where to look for a solution to this problem. I have already searched the main ubuntu forums but to no succes. I have tried uninstalling differnet pieces of software to see we10:30
Eruantalonault. My guess is that one of the audio libraries are defunct but i can't figure out which where. Where to look?10:30
HymnToLifeheinkel > you have to change the mount parameters10:30
HymnToLifesee here10:30
HymnToLife!ntfs10:30
ubotusomebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions10:30
sharp896ok, well i doubt i'll be keeping this config anyway, i just want it to work10:32
Eruantalonam i going to have to reinstall kubuntu?10:32
me2winEruantalon, which audio engines are you using? alsa? xine? gstreamer?10:33
me2winsharp896, im not sure why it does that10:33
Zappahas anyone managed to get xgl+compiz working on dapper with an ATI card?10:33
sharp896does what10:33
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Eruantalonme2win: I don't really know i have a lot of them installed10:33
EruantalonMy programs segfault before they even start...10:34
me2wingo into adept and try reinstalling xine, and alsa10:34
sharp896ok, i entered my name, username, and pass.  it's not rebooting after it ejected the cd10:34
me2winsharp896, are you using a live CD or its an install?10:35
Eruantalonok to sec10:35
sharp896install10:35
sharp896they don't really give you an opportunity to screw this up...i just made partitons, selected my timezone and user name10:35
sorush20guys I have kxdocker but I don't know how to turn off my current kde menu10:35
sharp896but sho nuf, doesn't want to work10:36
me2winsharp896, thats really wierd, something must have gone wrong at install, ive had it happen to me once where i isntalled it fine it seemed and it just didnt want to boot up, i would suggest reinstalling if you can10:36
sharp896ok, well this would be three times in a row10:37
Eruantalonalsa-base?10:37
sharp896it's doing the post-reboot stuff10:37
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there10:37
Tallia1Kubuntui need HELP!10:37
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to repristinate files removed by RM ?10:37
Tallia1Kubuntui just moved all the workspace files but i deleted all the eclipse preferences :(10:38
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me2winsharp896, did you remove the CD from the tray after restart?10:38
sharp896jah10:38
me2winand close the tray>10:38
Tallia1Kubuntu?10:38
Tallia1Kubuntuplease10:38
sharp896otherwise it would go back through the initial setup10:38
me2windid you close the tray? lol10:38
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me2winTallia1Kubuntu, no10:39
sharp896yeah10:39
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Tallia1Kubuntume2win: isn't there a version of rm that keep file in a trash?10:39
Tallia1Kubuntulike the one from kde..10:40
Tallia1Kubuntuor better. that use kde trash10:40
sharp896selecting res...1280x76810:40
nukythat would be quite useful.. a version or mr with a trash option..10:41
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Eruantalonme2win: Still no luck10:44
stianim a complete linux newbie, and i need some help.10:44
EruantalonAny other ideas?10:44
stianHow do I go about to install this app? http://everythinglinux.org/TkApache/10:44
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stiankubuntu off course10:44
stianits .pl files10:44
stianwhat do i do with em?10:44
sharp896ok, i'm at the ubuntu login now10:45
me2winsharp896, is it command line or GUI?10:45
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sharp896and here we are...again...at the command line10:45
stiandoes anyone have a program that i can monitor connections on my apache server with?10:45
me2winstian, not sure10:46
me2winShachaf, try   sudo telinit 310:46
me2winagain10:46
me2winsharp896, rather10:46
sharp896i'll try, david...err me2win10:46
me2winlol10:46
Zappahas anyone managed to get xgl+compiz working on dapper with an ATI card?10:46
sharp896GET IT?!?!?! david letterman and paul shafer?@?!?!?!10:47
me2win!compiz10:47
ubotuNo idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win10:47
douglasIf I want to set up a samba share with kde's graphical interface, How do I make it so when a windows machine try's to access it it doesn't ask for a username and password?10:47
sharp896ok, i did that and itasked for a password10:47
sharp896i typed mine in, and it said command not found10:47
Eruantalonstian: tail -f /var/log/apache/acces.log10:48
me2winTELINIT 310:48
me2win?10:48
Eruantalon:-P10:48
stianill try that now10:48
sharp896let me try again, i probably typed it wron10:48
sharp896g10:48
sharp896haha, like that10:48
me2winhaha10:48
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stiantail: cannot open `/var/log/apache/acces.log' for reading: No such file or directory10:48
stian?10:48
sharp896ok, it switched to runlevel 310:48
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me2winnow do startx10:49
stianto s's10:49
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stianbut nothing happens10:49
sharp896ok, there's a lot of crap on the screen, but to put it short, it didn't work10:50
me2winsharp896, ok do this10:50
stianhow do i monitor my apache server and the connections on it "live"?10:50
sharp896fatal server error, no screens found.  xio fatal error, fatal error 10410:50
me2winsharp896, type this in10:51
sharp896ok10:51
me2win sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg10:52
Heinkelare there any other GUI text editors than kate in default kubuntu 5.10?10:52
Heinkeli get problem starting kate :(10:53
sharp896ok, i'm at the res selection screen10:53
me2winHeinkel, dont think so, but there is nano10:53
me2winsharp896, select your res10:53
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sharp896done10:53
rysiek|pl...and back again10:53
Heinkelme2win:  is nano texteditor or waht?10:53
EruantalonI used to be able to do this: mplayer /dev/video0 and it would show the input from my videocard. Now mplayer is defunct at my end so i am looking for another progrma to accomplish the same... Any ideas?10:53
me2winShachaf, now make sure your runlevel is 3 and restart i guess10:54
stianhow do i monitor my apache server and the connections on it "live"10:54
me2winHeinkel, yeah, its default and its a text editor, but it works INSIDE the console, try it, its built in sudo nano whatever.txt10:54
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rysiek|plEruantalon: what do you mean "Defunct"?10:54
Eruantalonsegfault10:54
sharp896is there an easy command to reboot10:54
Eruantaloneverytime i start it10:54
me2winsharp896, restart10:54
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EruantalonAlong with amarok, vlc and other audio programs10:55
rysiek|plsharp896: reboot10:55
EruantalonKaffeine still works though10:55
sharp896must be superuser to reboot10:55
rysiek|plsudo reboot10:55
me2winsharp896, sudo restart10:55
rysiek|pl:)10:55
me2winerr reboot10:55
me2winlol10:55
sharp896what's sudo for/mean10:55
rysiek|plSet User DO10:55
sharp896thanks10:56
rysiek|plwrong:10:56
rysiek|plSuper User Do10:56
rysiek|pldo as root10:56
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Crowbarsudo safely escelates your privledges without making you root.10:56
sharp896ah10:56
EruantalonIs there a way to make kaffeine or xine work as mplayer?10:56
sharp896that makes a lot more sense10:56
rysiek|plEruantalon: it's just a segfault, no error msgs?10:56
Eruantalonyes10:56
rysiek|pltried upgrading?10:56
EruantalonNewest packages all around10:57
rysiek|pldamn10:57
EruantalonI've tried removing the sound libraries iv'e tried installing them all10:57
EruantalonNothing help10:57
rysiek|plstrange, I must say10:57
rysiek|plhmmm, as you say it's not only mplayer, but also Amarok and so on10:58
EruantalonI think i am going to have to reformat my computer.... But that is no guarantee that it will work aftaerwards... it'll be the same packages10:58
rysiek|plI suppose it's something with the soundserver or something10:58
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rysiek|plEruantalon: do a memtest first10:58
zax1heya, can any one help with networking with windows issues ?10:58
rysiek|plyep, go for it zax110:58
zax1i just installed kubuntu on another machine, and attached to my network10:59
Eruantalonmemtest?10:59
zax1the linux machine can see the windows ones perfectly10:59
zax1but the windows machines cant see the linux ones10:59
zax1what do i neeed to do on the linux box to get the windows to 'see' it10:59
rysiek|plwhat do you mean by "see"?10:59
rysiek|plEruantalon: when you boot-up your Kubuntu machine11:00
rysiek|plthere's an option in GRUB boot menu: memtest11:00
Eruantalonhmm tried that recently came up perfect. Besides the programs crash immedeatly after i load them and EVERY time11:00
rysiek|plEruantalon, gimme a sec, I'll give you a link with info11:00
Eruantalongotta be some sort of conflict between to libraries11:00
rysiek|plah, disregard that11:00
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rysiek|pldo they crash immidiately after loading them?11:01
EruantalonI can tell you as much as juk, xine, kaffeine and audacity still works11:01
zax1the windows box cant see the linux box, under computers in network neighborhood11:01
Eruantalonwithout a flaw11:01
rysiek|plzax1: you have to setup Samba11:02
rysiek|plthe Linux box(es)11:02
rysiek|pl!samba11:02
ubotusamba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently11:02
rysiek|pl!tell zax1 about samba11:02
EruantalonSo what i gotta do is figure out what it is that vlc, mplayer, xmms and amarok has in common that xine, kaffeine and juk doesn't11:02
zax1rysiekpl, how do i do it ? i am at the samba config, and workgroup is set properly, it all seem fine to me11:02
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rysiek|plgstreamer, I suppose11:02
rysiek|plzax1: is the Samba server running?11:03
sharp896ok, it's been sitting at 'checking batterty state' since i rebooted11:03
Eruantalonhmm yeah11:03
Eruantalonin kaffeine it tell me that is is using engine: kaffeine?11:03
zax1i dont know rysiekpl, how do i verify it ?11:03
_davidEruantalon: engine is gstreamer (that's the default one)11:04
rysiek|plEruantalon: and I suppose mplayer and the other crashing apps use gstreamer11:04
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me2winsharp896, whats the longest you've ever given it11:04
_davidEruantalon: they forgot to add gstreamer there11:04
Eruantalonok., i am going to try to remove all traces of gstreamer then11:04
rysiek|plEruantalon: remove gstreamer, mplayer and other crashing apps11:04
_davidEruantalon: what files don't work?11:04
rysiek|pland install them anew11:04
rysiek|plbut remember to remove the config files, too11:05
rysiek|plzax1: in console: ps aux | grep smb11:05
Eruantalonrysiek|pl: Ok11:05
sharp896well, we're going on, what, close to 10 minutes now?11:05
Eruantalontrying that well get back to you11:05
rysiek|plok11:05
zax1wht am i looking for11:06
_mihainewbie question: where are the linux passwords stored?11:06
rysiek|plpaste me on priv what the command returned11:06
rysiek|pl_mihai: /etc/shadow11:06
rysiek|plbut you won't be able to read them - they're md5summed11:07
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_mihaiwell11:07
rysiek|plzax1:  paste me on priv what the command returned11:07
sharp896! it's doing something...maybe...the screen just went blank11:07
ubotusharp896: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/11:07
_mihaiand how do hackers proceed ?11:07
rysiek|plrofl :] 11:07
_mihaiit's for educational purposes11:07
zax1i cant paste its on a nother comp11:07
_mihaisincerilly11:07
zax1it has 2 entries11:07
Eruantalon_mihai: They use a lookup table11:07
zax11 is about the smb conf which is open with kate11:08
rysiek|pl_mihai: they usually get the privs through security holes11:08
zax1the other is about grep smb11:08
_mihaiaham11:08
rysiek|plzax1: you're looking for smbd11:08
rysiek|plzax1: and nmbd11:08
_david_mihai: but a hacker shouldn't even be able to read /etc/shadow11:08
zax1have neither there11:08
rysiek|plzax1: ok, then Samba is not running11:08
_mihailookup table is someting like a relation between md5summed encoded text and text itself ?11:09
_david_mihai: only root can read that file11:09
zax1ok, how do i get it up and running, and get it to load when linux ius loaded ?11:09
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_david_mihai: yep, they're huge databases11:09
rysiek|plzax1: try: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start11:09
_mihaigot it11:09
rysiek|plzax1: or: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd start11:09
zax1k11:09
_mihaianother thing11:09
_mihaii want to configure a ssh server11:10
rysiek|plzax1: looking for a good tutorial I once used, gimme a sec11:10
_mihaii'll have to istann openssh-server11:10
rysiek|pl_mihai: yep11:10
_mihaiand after that?11:10
_mihaiconfig the port11:10
rysiek|plyep11:10
_mihaicuz my isp won't let me play with 2311:10
_mihaiwhere is the config file?11:10
rysiek|pl_mihay: it's port 22 by default :)11:11
zax1i get command not found11:11
_david_mihai: under /etc/ssh11:11
_mihaiwell11:11
_mihaiyes11:11
_mihaisorry11:11
rysiek|plzax1: giomme a sec11:11
_mihai23 is ftp ?11:11
zax1sure11:11
rysiek|plzax1: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/troubleshooting.html11:12
rysiek|plthis is a *real* lifesaver11:12
_mihaiso where is the conf file for openssh ?11:12
rysiek|pl/etc/ssh11:12
_david_mihai: scratch that, that's for the ssh client :)11:13
zax1thanks rysiek11:13
rysiek|pl_mihai: try reading the manual: man sshd11:13
_mihaiok11:13
rysiek|pl_david, )mihai: ooops, ma bad :] 11:13
rysiek|pl_david, _mihai: no, it's not! ha!11:13
rysiek|pl/etc/ssh/sshd_config11:14
_davidlol :)11:14
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_mihaido you know why is linux far better than windows? beacause of the great community on which linux is based on11:14
_mihai;)11:15
EruantalonBack again... Can anyone tell my why all of a sudden xorg took up 800 megs of ram?11:15
rysiek|plEruantalon: WTF?!11:15
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rysiek|pl_mihai: yep, that's true - but that's only possible due to being OpenSource, which enforces(!) the communities to get created11:16
EruantalonIt used up all my ram and then it went for my swap when it filled my swap my computer just stopped working. It had to swap in memory just to move the mouse...11:16
rysiek|plEruantalon: that's weird, never seen such a behaviour11:17
EruantalonAdept does something similar once in a while. That is why I usually use synaptic11:18
_mihaiok i've just modified the port in sshd_config ... to Port XXXX... now how to restart the service, test it ?11:18
EruantalonI am still looking for a good package manager11:18
rysiek|pl_mihai: /etc/init.d/sshd restart11:18
rysiek|pl_mihai: ooops, like this: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart11:19
rysiek|plEruantalon: apt-get ;)11:19
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_davidEruantalon: or aptitude for a nice console gui11:19
EruantalonYes that is good... But there is still some thing that it does not do for my (or i don't know how) fx how do i list all installed programs from one category?11:20
_davidEruantalon: aptitude can do that, just browse the tree11:20
EruantalonI like synaptic because there is nothing i can't do. It is jsut so damn slow11:20
Eruantalonjust11:20
rysiek|plEruantalon: it is slow, because it constantly needs to read data from the package db11:20
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rysiek|plunfortunately, that's something that is rather hard do change :/11:21
EruantalonYeah but adept is much faster11:21
rysiek|plI'd say Adept is dead slow11:21
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rysiek|plbut maybe I'm just too used to apt-get ;)11:21
Eruantaloneverything is slow compared to apt-get11:22
rysiek|plyep :)11:22
_mihaisudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found11:22
_mihaihmm11:22
_mihai?11:22
EruantalonI guess I am jusrt going to have to settle with apt and learn all the commands11:22
_mihaiafter i ran sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart11:22
rysiek|pl_mihai: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart11:22
rysiek|plas above11:22
rysiek|plmy bad, didn't check id previously, sorry :)11:23
_mihainow... how to know if it works?11:23
EruantalonI know this is a Kubuntu forum... but does anyone know a distro with the same nice fully configured basic install as kubuntu but with newer packages?11:23
rysiek|plis this system accessible from internet?11:23
rysiek|pl_mihai: is this system accessible from internet?11:24
_mihaitelnet localhost does not work... could not connect11:24
rysiek|pl_mihai: it's not telnet11:24
EruantalonWhat i really want is debian i guess with some sensible default configs11:24
_mihairysiek|pl: ?11:24
_mihaii know11:24
rysiek|pl_mihai: ssh user@localhost11:24
_mihai:)11:24
_mihaiok where do i specify the port in the ssh command?11:25
_mihaissh -p XXX user@localhost ?11:25
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rysiek|plssh <user>@<server>:<port>11:25
rysiek|plwait, I'll check it ;)11:25
rysiek|plman ssh11:25
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rysiek|pleh, wrong again :/11:26
rysiek|plssh -p <port> user@serwer11:26
rysiek|pllike: ssh -p XXXX rysiek@rysiek.ath.cx11:26
_davidrysiek|pl: I woul say the above was correct too?11:26
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rysiek|plmanpage suggests otherwise11:26
nukyif i wanted to install the xfce desktop environment on kubuntu, what would i have to apt-get install?11:27
rysiek|pl_david: ssh (...)  [user@] hostname [command] 11:27
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_davidrysiek|pl: ok but doesn't hostname include the port (just guessing here) :)11:27
rysiek|pl_david: now don't get too smart :P11:28
rysiek|plmaybe :)11:28
rysiek|plnuky: xfce4 - Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up11:28
_davidI just have in memory that it was possible that way, but I can very well be wrong :)11:28
rysiek|plnuky: run in console: apt-cache search xfce11:28
rysiek|plread that list and choose what you think you need. I have never set up xfce11:29
rysiek|pl_david: now you made me test it! :)11:29
_davidI wanted to test but haven't got an sshd server running :)11:29
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nukythanks, i heard it was really clean and lightweight.. want to try it out.. :)11:30
rysiek|plxxxx@localhost:~$ ssh xxxx@192.168.0.6:2211:30
rysiek|plssh: 192.168.0.6:22: Name or service not known11:30
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy don't i have java in repositories??11:30
rysiek|plnuky: no prob11:30
slow-motionn811:30
_davidahh, nooo, ok you were right :-D11:30
rysiek|plTallia1Kubuntu: ah, but you do! :)11:30
EruantalonSigh, I am giving up. Going to reformat the computer tomorrow... Damn i've gotta start all over with mythtv, ivtv, and all the others thing I used hours to install and config.11:30
EruantalonThanks anyways11:30
rysiek|plubotu tell Tallia1Kubuntu about java11:30
Tallia1Kubuntuno... there's only gcj11:30
EruantalonAnyone know when the next version of kubuntu will be out?11:31
_david!java11:31
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs11:31
_david!javadebs11:31
rysiek|plread what ubotu told you, Tallia1Kubuntu :)11:31
Tallia1Kubuntu:)11:31
Tallia1Kubuntumy eclipse stopped working :(11:31
_davidyeah, the javadebs is usefull :)11:31
nukydoesn't kubuntu release version at the same time as ubuntu? as in, will there be an equivalent dapper kubuntu next month?11:31
_davidnuky: I hope so :)11:32
rysiek|plYep :)11:32
nukyhehe me too... i'm waiting for it before i install on my main machine.. :)11:32
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Heinkelreboot brb...console works fine reads ntfs partition but not gui applications :(11:33
EruantalonSo what you are saying is that there will be a new version of kubuntu out in about one month=11:33
rysiek|plEruantalon: yep11:33
_davidEruantalon: yep, the end of April if I'm right11:33
EruantalonMaybe i'll wait for that11:33
EruantalonMaybe I won't11:34
rysiek|plEruantalon: I would try to fix your current setup11:34
Eruantalonrysiek|pl: If you have anymore ideas i will welcome them11:34
rysiek|plalthough I can't think of anything that would cause such problems as you have11:34
EruantalonI'm just getting really sick of kubuntu11:34
rysiek|plexcept a hardware failure somewhere11:34
Tallia1Kubuntuwhen dapper will come out11:35
Tallia1Kubuntu?11:35
rysiek|plApril :)11:35
_mihaiit almoust works (fuckin router and port forwarding)... anyway inside the lan works well... question: i've installed putty and if i type putty from the command line, i get an error: could not open display11:35
rysiek|plputty is a grafical app11:35
_mihaiyes11:35
rysiek|plyou installed putty on your linux box?11:36
_mihaibut in ubuntu (gnome bla bla) it opened it in graphical mode11:36
EruantalonSeems to happen with all the distros i try, the first 5 month they are the shit but from there on there's nothing but trouble and everything starts to brake and i begin to research the price of a macontosh og winXp, Some one directs my at some new distro that does it all and doesnt have any of the problem of the previous one and i am in heaven again11:36
simianyi thought putty was for windows11:36
_mihaiso... in ubuntu (not kubuntu) i've typed apt-get install putty11:36
rysiek|pl_mihai: are you logged in as root, by any chance?11:36
_mihaiyes11:37
rysiek|plEruantalon: it has to be hardware failure, then11:37
_david_mihai: you know that you can login a sshd server with the ssh command?11:37
_mihaiand after the installation whas ok... i've typed putty11:37
rysiek|pl_mihai: that's the problem :)11:37
rysiek|pl_mihai, open a new konsole11:37
rysiek|plas a normal user11:37
_mihaiokk11:37
rysiek|pland type putty11:37
_mihairysiek|pl: it works... what was the bubu?11:38
rysiek|plwhen you run it from a konsole where you're logged in as root11:38
rysiek|plit can't establish a connection with the XServer11:38
_mihaiAHAM11:39
_mihaiok11:39
_mihai10x11:39
Eruantalonwell goodnight11:39
rysiek|plnop :)11:39
Tallia1Kubuntusomeone can me explain what's wrong?11:39
rysiek|plgn8, Eruantalon11:39
Tallia1Kubuntuhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/q8ayNh20.html11:39
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Tallia1Kubuntumy eclipse stopped working in a meaningless way11:39
_mihaiquestion: my friend is logged in on my machine (by ssh). is there a method to display on his machine apps installed on my pc?11:39
rysiek|plTallia1Kubuntu: I have no idea, maybe try #java or something like that11:40
me2win_mihai, not necessarily11:40
rysiek|pl_mihai: you mean like your friend usiong the GUI through ssh?11:41
_mihaismth like that...11:41
rysiek|pl_mihai: never played with that, but there is a way11:41
_mihaijust displaying let's say my xmms11:41
arafeler, the one you already have running?11:41
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rysiek|plmihai_: ah, that's easy: VNC11:42
mihai_?11:42
rysiek|plbut that will not go through ssh11:42
rysiek|plgimme a sec11:42
rysiek|plhttp://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/11:42
rysiek|plor rather...11:43
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rysiek|plhttp://www.tightvnc.com/11:43
rysiek|plthat should do the trick11:43
rysiek|plbut it is completely separate from openssh and needs setting up, an open port, and so on11:44
Heinkelok we try again11:44
rysiek|plHeinkel: what is the problem? :)11:44
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Heinkelhehe...correct mounting of ntfs partitions11:44
_davidmihai_: If you want your friend to just run a graphical application you can also use ssh -X11:45
rysiek|plHeinkel: you want it writeable, or will read-only suffice?11:45
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Heinkelhehe...it is enough with read-only11:45
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Tallia1Kubuntu--with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/11:46
rysiek|plHeinkel: ok, let's play with that11:46
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to avoid that every time in ./configure?11:46
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_neoncodeWere is the kwin config file?11:46
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rysiek|plHeinkel: are you registered with freenode?11:46
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Heinkelno..11:46
rysiek|pl(so that you could write on priv)11:46
rysiek|pla11:47
Heinkelwill fix that tomorrow11:47
tidalwav1hi, all11:47
tidalwav1I'm trying to gey my wireless internet to work in flight 411:47
rysiek|plHeinkel: join #heinkel-rysiek :)11:47
Heinkelah thanks11:47
tidalwav1anyone think they can help?11:49
rysiek|plTallia1Kubuntu: there is a way, something with an environment var (QT_INCLUDE_PATH or smthng like that)11:49
tidalwav1ndiswrapper doesn't work :(11:49
rysiek|plsearch google11:49
tidalwav1it did in Ubuntu 5.1011:49
mihai__david: ssh -X when?11:49
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mihai__david: when already logged in?11:49
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_davidmihai_: in your sshd config file you need to enable it, so it is allowed to run gui apps, than you can login with ssh -X user@hostname11:50
_davidmihai_: so before login11:50
_davidmihai_: but I don't exaclty know what needed to be edited in the sshd config file, but I think google (or someone else in this channel) knows :)11:51
mihai__david: aham... and after that just execute an app (ex. :~$xmms)11:51
_davidmihai_: yep11:51
tidalwav1ok, I'll try it this way: where does kubuntu flight 4 store its network card settings, because it's definitely not /etc/network/interfaces ?11:51
mihai__david: 10x11:51
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tidalwav1anyone? :(11:52
mihai_are there apps that transform a md5 pass in text ?11:53
CaptainbrailleHi, I'm trying to make a symbolic link for dev/hdd and when I click OK I get this.. "Could not save properties. You do not have sufficient access to write to /home/.wine/dosdevices/CD-ROM Device."   How do I fix that?11:53
arafelmihai_: I don't understand what you mean, I'm afraid.11:54
rysiek|plmihai_: you can't transform md5 back to text - it's a one-way crypt11:55
mihai_well... after viewing the /etc/shadow file of "secred data" i get some fancy sausage encrypted text just before an user name... can i decript it?11:55
mihai_aham11:55
mihai_ok11:55
_redondoshello!11:55
mihai_damn... i knew that (from php) but it didn't hurt asking :P11:56
_redondosanyone can help me with JACKD11:56
_redondos ???11:56
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_redondosanyone can help me with JACKD ??11:57
arafel_redondos: I don't use it, sorry11:58
_redondosok11:58
Tallia1Kubunturysiek|pl: for all the option --qt-include-* which would be your paths?11:59
nukyin kubuntu, is there an easy way to add a task to cron? i just want it to run "cat ~/.bash_history >> ~/.bash_history_all" every night because i'm still learning and i don't want to loose the steps i've carried out before..11:59
Tallia1Kubuntunuky: kcron11:59
mihai_how can i let a app to run even after i logout?11:59
mihai_*an11:59
Tallia1Kubuntumihai_: logout as  user?12:00
mihai_yeap12:00
Tallia1Kubuntuor logout from kde12:00
crodleranyone has a working vtun-nossl package?12:00
_redondosanyone can help me with JACKD ??12:00
mihai_let's say i have a shell account12:00
arafelmihai_: I think you want nohup12:00
nukyoh.. is there a way through terminal? i'd like to know the terminal procedure before using the gui.. but the tutorials online using a cron instance aren't too understandable..12:00
arafelor possibly screen12:00
arafelnuky: crontab -e :)12:00
nukythanks though.. i'll use it for my purpose now and figure out the terminal way in time :)12:00
Tallia1Kubuntumihai_: you have to put a script in /etc/init.d and a link in one of /etc/rcN.d12:01
nukyahhh... trying that now!!12:01
arafelTallia1Kubuntu: I'm not sure that's what he wants.12:01
Tallia1Kubuntuif a user logout all the process created by him are killed12:02
Tallia1Kubuntuin that way the script is run by root12:02
arafelTallia1Kubuntu: which is probably a bad thing12:02
arafelyou can leave processes running when you logout12:02
Tallia1Kubuntureally? i dunno about that12:02
arafelnohup or screen are the easiest ways12:02
mihai_someone suggested screen12:03
Tallia1Kubuntu;) always learning :)12:03
rysiek|plTallia1Kubuntu: sorry, was busy on another channel. My paths? I've not been compiling for Qt for a long time :)12:03
mihai_how does that work?12:03
arafelTallia1Kubuntu: my fetchmail daemon keeps running even when I logout as a user ;-)12:03
Tallia1Kubunturysiek|pl: :)12:03
arafelmihai_: man screen12:03
Tallia1Kubuntuarafel: i don't have the minumum idea of what's fetchmail12:03
Tallia1Kubuntu:)12:03
arafelbut basically it creates a 'virtual' terminal you can attach or detach to12:03
arafelTallia1Kubuntu: it collects mail from remote mailservers and delivers it elsewhere.12:04

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