[12:12] (Dasnipa`/#kubuntu) hoorah
[12:12] (Datsunzoso/#kubuntu) why r ppl leaving and entering this server
[12:12] (Datsunzoso/#kubuntu) wtf!
[12:12] (Datsunzoso/#kubuntu) lol
[12:12] (Datsunzoso/#kubuntu) thta didnt work
[12:12] <Datsunzoso> WOW!
[12:13] <Datsunzoso> ok
[12:13] <Datsunzoso> so that doesnt work
[12:13] <arrinmurr> Datsunzoso: netsplit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[12:13] <Datsunzoso> is it that the program just doesnt feel like working?
[12:13] <Datsunzoso> did i somehow piss the linux gods off?
[12:13] <arrinmurr> Datsunzoso: so it says nothing in the terminal when you try to run it?
[12:13] <Datsunzoso> que is the terminal?
[12:14] <arrinmurr> Datsunzoso: press alt+f2 -> type "konsole", konsole pops up, type the name of the program you're trying to use there
[12:16] <bipolar> bah
[12:16] <Datsunzoso> yea i did that
[12:16] <arrinmurr> Datsunzoso: and? no error messages?
[12:16] <Datsunzoso> well i out gnomad2 and it shows the little icon for it, than it beginds to load but never actually runs
[12:16] <Datsunzoso> well no not that i know of
[12:16] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: it's not running down in the notification area, is it?
[12:17] <bipolar> own near the clock?
[12:17] <Datsunzoso> were is that?
[12:17] <Datsunzoso> ?
[12:17] <Datsunzoso> were is that
[12:17] <bipolar> I'm going to install it myself... one mon
[12:18] <Flosoft_2> how can I reconfigure my network cards?
[12:19] <Datsunzoso> mierda esta
[12:19] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: heh... it's crashing. probbly for you too.
[12:19] <callie> bit of a general question here, but i'm thinking of upgrading a bit and i'm finding all these 64 bit chips a bit confusing, there's so many of them and a few different socket types too. i love my Athlon so im thinking of sticking with AMD any tips from anyone would be appreciated
[12:19] <bipolar> crap
[12:19] <callie> damn i said 'bit' a lot there
[12:19] <Datsunzoso> its crashing? lol so im not the only guy with the prob lol
[12:20] <Datsunzoso> well how do i kick the hell outta it so it doesnt crash lol
[12:20] <callie> shoota puta!
[12:20] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: nope. when i run it from the konsole it tells me it's segfaulting.
[12:20] <Datsunzoso> ... hah
[12:20] <Dasnipa`> callie, last i heard what you want the 939 pin preferably
[12:20] <Datsunzoso> so theres no way of getting it to run :(
[12:20] <callie> Dasnipa`, im guessing thats probably the most expensive one too ;(
[12:20] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: there is a bug somewhere that's making it crash
[12:21] <Dasnipa`> callie, actually not
[12:21] <callie> Dasnipa`, Cool! even better
[12:21] <Dasnipa`> callie, i think their 939 pin is just the most fleshed out series of procs the other one is like extreme
[12:21] <Datsunzoso> so is there anyway that will allow it to work
[12:21] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: ok. i ran it again and it loaded.
[12:22] <Datsunzoso> ???????!!!!!! it loaded for u?
[12:22] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: in konsole, type in 'gnomad2' and hit enter
[12:22] <Datsunzoso> gnomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libgnomeui-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:22] <Datsunzoso> ...
[12:22] <Datsunzoso> damn i think im a total n00b
[12:22] <bipolar> you didn't install it with apt, did you....
[12:23] <Datsunzoso> !?!
[12:23] <ubotu> Datsunzoso: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:23] <Datsunzoso> i guess not
[12:23] <Tm_T> huoh
[12:23] <bipolar> lol
[12:23] <Datsunzoso> i thought i did
[12:23] <callie> Dasnipa`, cool, and another question, i've had a lot of bad luck with mobos in the past could you recommend a good manufacturer, i always just get the one which i can afford, which seems to end up costing me more in the long run
[12:23] <Datsunzoso> lol
[12:23] <Datsunzoso> wow w00t
[12:23] <Datsunzoso> ok someone show me! lol srry guys
[12:23] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: do this.... in konsole 'apt-get install --force-reinstall gnomad2'
[12:24] <bipolar> poop... thats not it
[12:24] <Datsunzoso> invalid opp
[12:24] <Dasnipa`> callie, hrm... id say your best bet is to once you choose a proc, look up reviews of mobos for that socket type
[12:24] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnomad2
[12:24] <callie> Dasnipa`, i will do im just wandering which companies have a good track record
[12:25] <Datsunzoso> wow
[12:25] <Datsunzoso> "invaild opperation install"
[12:25] <frank23> Datsunzoso: is this gnomad2 from a ubuntu repository?
[12:25] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: ot
[12:25] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: I thnk you mistyped something
[12:26] <Datsunzoso> how did i do that? lol
[12:26] <Datsunzoso> wait..
[12:26] <Dasnipa`> callie, oh btw... the athlon 64 x2 series is the one i was referring to... those are 939 pins, dual core and reasonable price
[12:27] <callie> Dasnipa`, the cheapest dual core i've seen is 350
[12:27] <Datsunzoso> i did what u said bipolar
[12:27] <Datsunzoso> still nothing
[12:27] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: what did that command give you?
[12:28] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: it should have reinstalled gnomad2
[12:28] <Dasnipa`> callie, newegg has one for 300 american which is probably like 200-250 eur
[12:28] <Datsunzoso> i tihink it did reinstall it
[12:29] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: ok. and when you type in 'gnomad2' in konsole does it still give you that error?
[12:29] <Datsunzoso> it says "reading pakage lists.... done            you might  want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:   the following pakages have unmet dependecies
[12:29] <Datsunzoso> and it gives the pakages
[12:29] <bipolar> ah ha!
[12:29] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: run 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[12:29] <Datsunzoso> doing it
[12:29] <Dasnipa`> callie, oh an for mobo... asus is the one i hear about most often from friends building computers
[12:30] <Datsunzoso> ok its done
[12:30] <Datsunzoso> try now?
[12:30] <bipolar> yeah
[12:30] <Datsunzoso> ok
[12:30] <Datsunzoso> it runs now
[12:30] <callie> 300$ is still 170 but thats definitely a large reduction Dasnipa`
[12:30] <bipolar> cool
[12:30] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: does it see the nomad?
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> now it says "could not open jukebox: usb_set_configuration: operation not permitted
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> lol wave upon problem
[12:31] <bipolar> bah!
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> i have pissed the windows gods off
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> lol
[12:31] <bipolar> ok. close it.
[12:31] <Psi-Jack> Hey guys. I need help with something. resolvconf keeps screwing up my /etc/resolv.conf. Why, and how do I fix it?
[12:31] <Datsunzoso> closed
[12:31] <bipolar> try running it as root, just for giggles. 'sudo gnomad2'
[12:32] <Datsunzoso> crap
[12:32] <Datsunzoso> got it working
[12:32] <Datsunzoso> w00t
[12:32] <Datsunzoso> I <3 you
[12:32] <bipolar> hmmm.... it shouldn't need ot be run as root.
[12:32] <bipolar> but... if it works.
[12:32] <bipolar> does it see the nomad?
[12:33] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[12:33] <Psi-Jack> Anyone ever took a good look at <3, and devised that it could also possibly look like a piece of ass? :)
[12:34] <SkrotFFS> Same as (i), MSN emoticon shortcut for a heart looks like something rather different when you don't have support for emoticons..
[12:34] <Datsunzoso> ok well im moving all the files now
[12:34] <Datsunzoso> it does see nomad
[12:35] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: I think I have a fix for that problem too
[12:35] <Datsunzoso> seems to be goin pretty fast too
[12:35] <Psi-Jack> SkrotFFS: Heh
[12:35] <bipolar> sudo gedit /etc/hotplug/usb/nomadjukebox
[12:35] <bipolar>  #change DEVICEPERMS=0600 --> DEVICEPERMS=0666 and reconnect device
[12:35] <Datsunzoso> 0666, SATAN!
[12:35] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: thats from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33040
[12:35] <Datsunzoso> lol
[12:35] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: :)
[12:35] <Datsunzoso> wow bipolar, ur extremly knowledgable in this
[12:35] <Datsunzoso> big help
[12:35] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: I've been a linux user/admin for 12 years
[12:36] <Datsunzoso> w0w.
[12:36] <Datsunzoso> that explains it
[12:36] <Datsunzoso> lol
[12:36] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: heh
[12:36] <Datsunzoso> ill be there in now time lol
[12:36] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. Still gotcha beat, bipolar. ;)
[12:36] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: I started when I was 14. now you know how old I am :P
[12:36] <bipolar> Psi-Jack: you're not the only one, I'm sure :)
[12:36] <Datsunzoso> 26 lol
[12:36] <Datsunzoso> well im 17
[12:37] <Datsunzoso> wwwanted to try somethin new
[12:37] <bipolar> thats as good a reason as any :)
[12:37] <bipolar> Psi-Jack: how long have you been at it?
[12:37] <Psi-Jack> bipolar: How about this. Do you know resolvconf?
[12:37] <Datsunzoso> wait i just got something
[12:37] <Datsunzoso> # is like comment right?
[12:38] <Psi-Jack> bipolar: Roughly 18 years
[12:38] <Psi-Jack> But, that's not just Linux, of course.
[12:38] <nxv_> hi, a friend told me there is a option in kde/konqueror to repeat reading a cd when ripping till it is perfect. for this option i always used cdparanoia. i would be happy to use such feature under kde but can't find the switch/option.
[12:38] <bipolar> Psi-Jack: resolvconf is a debian package. I've not used it directly.
[12:39] <Psi-Jack> bipolar: Hmm.. Well, something on one of my servers depended on it, for some awful reason, and it's screwing everything up. heh
[12:39] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: usualy, yes, # starts a comment line.
[12:39] <Datsunzoso> cool
[12:40] <Datsunzoso> ugh.... what do you guys perfer, kubuntu or ubuntu?
[12:40] <Psi-Jack> Datsunzoso: They're the same.
[12:40] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: It's the diffreence between KDE and Gnome.
[12:40] <Psi-Jack> The ONLY difference is what DE is pre-installed at installation. That's it.
[12:40] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: I like kde better, so I use kubuntu. but the packages are all in the same repo.
[12:41] <Psi-Jack> That, and Kubuntu makes specific adjustments, which is still available in Ubuntu/Kubuntu the same.
[12:42] <Datsunzoso> > Hentai^XP has joined this channel. (n=justin@202.131.164.87.cmts2.guam.net)
[12:42] <Datsunzoso> LOL!
[12:42] <Datsunzoso> hentai hahah pervs
[12:42] <Pyrobob> um... my friend was beong stupid and downloaded xpenguin
[12:42] <Pyrobob> and now I got alot of annoying penguins allover the screen
[12:42] <Pyrobob> how do I close it?
[12:42] <bipolar> hahaha
[12:42] <Psi-Jack> killall xpenguin
[12:42] <tarmath> killall xpenguin
[12:42] <neoncode> What were the penquin libiration front ubuntu apt repos? The addresses I mean
[12:42] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: Just a hair too slow. ;)
[12:43] <Psi-Jack> !source-o-matic
[12:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:43] <tarmath> psi-jack: im always right on time. you were too fast.
[12:43] <Psi-Jack> neoncode: There.
[12:43] <tarmath> :P
[12:43] <Pyrobob> it says no process killed
[12:43] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: Oh no. I was precisely on-time. :D
[12:43] <bipolar> jeez... I forgot all about source-o-matic.... that could have helped Datsunzoso
[12:43] <Datsunzoso> after i dump all the mp3s onto the pc, im gonna have a stab at install firefox
[12:44] <Psi-Jack> Oh. Fricken-A.
[12:44] <Pyrobob> oh stupid me lol
[12:44] <Datsunzoso> that will be fun lol ahhaha
[12:44] <Psi-Jack> resolvconf is gone. The puny bastage pain in the arse.
[12:44] <Pyrobob> misspelt penguin
[12:44] <neoncode> Psi-Jack: Thank you
[12:44] <Datsunzoso> is sourceomatic easier?
[12:44] <bipolar> Datsunzoso: use Konq if you are using kde. :)
[12:44] <Psi-Jack> And guys..
[12:45] <Psi-Jack> Don't keep non-official repositories active at all times. You could be very dissapointed.
[12:45] <Pyrobob> is there a free (non-trial) version of Crossover Office?
[12:46] <tarmath> hmm, while the channel is lively, Ive got a lil question... is there any app or whatever that should be used to modify the symlinks in /etc/alternatives/ or I can go for it manually without fearing to break anything?
[12:46] <Psi-Jack> Pyrobob: No
[12:46] <Pyrobob> Dx
[12:46] <Psi-Jack> Dx?
[12:46] <tarmath> Dx
[12:46] <Psi-Jack> WHat the fsck does Dx mean?
[12:46] <tarmath> you tell me
[12:47] <Pyrobob> kinda like
[12:47] <Pyrobob> damn
[12:47] <Psi-Jack> Pyrobob: Define: Dx
[12:47] <Pyrobob> just in a little smiley
[12:47] <Pyrobob> thing
[12:47] <Pyrobob> D = mouth
[12:47] <Pyrobob> x = eyes
[12:47] <Pyrobob> Dx
[12:47] <Psi-Jack> Eyes go before the mouth! Don't you know anything?> :)
[12:47] <Pyrobob> when happy they do
[12:48] <Pyrobob> ...<_<
[12:48] <Pyrobob> when mad its the mouth before eyes
[12:48] <Pyrobob> duh
[12:48] <tarmath> right.
[12:48] <Pyrobob> yep
[12:48] <Pyrobob> o.o
[12:48] <Psi-Jack> So, you mean, :x isn't an angry expression?
[12:48] <bipolar> lol
[12:48] <Pyrobob> thats more like "lips are sealed"
[12:48] <Pyrobob> or "didn't mean that"
[12:48] <Pyrobob> depending on the situation
[12:48] <bipolar> or "kisses"
[12:48] <bipolar> hahaha
[12:49] <Psi-Jack> Didn't mean that is more like :O
[12:49] <Psi-Jack> Or :&
[12:49] <Pyrobob> :0 is like "OMG"
[12:49] <Pyrobob> *is a forum nerd*
[12:49] <tarmath> :O could be misinterpreted
[12:49] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: So could :O<==
[12:50] <tarmath> well, now it looks like the O is the nose, and under it there's a mustache...
[12:50] <Borelia> <( 0 )> interpent this please :)
[12:50] <Pyrobob> its kirby
[12:50] <Pyrobob> sucking in somthing
[12:50] <Pyrobob> ...
[12:51] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: That was definately no mustache. :)
[12:51] <Pyrobob> so Psu-Jack you were thinking more like :O (|[12:51] <Pyrobob> ?
[12:51] <Pyrobob> psi*
[12:51] <Psi-Jack> Pyrobob: Or better. :O(|==8
[12:51] <callie> ahem
[12:51] <Pyrobob> ....
[12:51] <Borelia> {( o) ] 
[12:51] <Pyrobob> xD
[12:52] <Pyrobob> Borelia, what is that?
[12:52] <Borelia> w8 im improving
[12:52] <tarmath> this is getting a little bit out of control
[12:52] <Pyrobob> yeah it is
[12:52] <Psi-Jack> Hehe, yeah.
[12:53] <Pyrobob> I am just flat out curious though. is anyone here working on project DS linux?
[12:53] <Pyrobob> I take that a sa no
[12:53] <Pyrobob> as a*
[12:54] <tarmath> nintendo DS?
[12:54] <Pyrobob> yeah
[12:54] <Pyrobob> there's a project called DSL (DSLinux) that is working on installing linux on a DS
[12:54] <Pyrobob> its gotten so far as to get it on there, but no graphical interface
[12:54] <Pyrobob> its right now still all command-line - y
[12:54] <Psi-Jack> Man, MyDNS is so sexy, though. I've been looking for a good, reliable, little SQL-backed DNS server, and MyDNS definately fills that catagory very nicely. Just needs a better web-based admin tool for it.
[12:55] <Pyrobob> I know
[12:55] <Pyrobob> i hate pie
[12:55] <Datsunzoso> wow im hungry
[12:56] <Pyrobob> xP
[12:56] <Psi-Jack> Datsunzoso: Eat, grasshoppa.
[12:56] <Datsunzoso> all this anger to frustration to happpiness has taken a toll on my body
[12:56] <Datsunzoso> brb i  think we got some human meat around here, RAWR!
[12:56] <Psi-Jack> Datsunzoso: Even a pure geek, must fill nurishment to the body, mind and what-nots.
[12:57] <Datsunzoso> tru
[12:57] <Datsunzoso> i gotta boston creme donut, some brownies and apple juice
[12:57] <Captainbraille> How do I delete files in "/var/cache/apt/archives"
[12:57] <Datsunzoso> its all i had in my house
[12:58] <Datsunzoso> havnt gone to buy any food lately
[12:58] <Psi-Jack> Seriously, though. MyDNS has something other DNS servers's don't have. ALIAS records, that instead of CNAME's, having to externally produce multiple queries, ALIAS records, instead, internally query for the A record of the ALIAS entry pointing to, and returns an A, or AAAA record instead.
[12:58] <Sonic> o.o
[12:58] <Sonic> was supposed to be somthing else, but it cut it off
[12:58] <bipolar> Captainbraille: apt-get clean, iirc
[12:58] <Sonic> -_-
[12:58] <Captainbraille> thanks bipolar, what does iirc mean?
[12:59] <Psi-Jack> IIRC == If I Recall Correctly.
[12:59] <Captainbraille> lol
[12:59] <Captainbraille> hey it's working!
[12:59] <Psi-Jack> Well, then apparently, bipolar recalled correctly. ;)
[12:59] <Captainbraille> LoL
[01:00] <Psi-Jack> autoclean will clean out the older stuff, if present, keeping the current.
[01:00] <Datsunzoso> i cant wait till i get to listen to my music on amarock
[01:00] <Captainbraille> Ohh, okay
[01:01] <Captainbraille> Psi-Jack:do you use wine?
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> Sometimes.
[01:02] <Datsunzoso> well transfereing over 6gb of music onto the pc drained the mp3 players battery
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> I mostly use vmware player to run Windows 2000, though/
[01:02] <Pyrobob> iwill Wine run iTunes?
[01:02] <Captainbraille> vmware, yeah? Mind if I ask why you use it more?
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> Ewwwwww
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> iTunes? Why would ANYONE want to run that ?
[01:03] <Pyrobob> I got hacks for it
[01:03] <Pyrobob> that I found
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> Captainbraille: Because it runs Windows, in a Window.
[01:03] <Pyrobob> to get free songs from the network your on
[01:03] <Dasnipa`> lol h4x for itunes...
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> Pyrobob: Oh, more reason not to help. :;
[01:03] <Pyrobob> so when I finally get to college I can have
[01:03] <Pyrobob> literally have thousands of free songs at my disposal...
[01:04] <Psi-Jack> Pyrobob: All I can say is. Just shut it. :p
[01:04] <Psi-Jack> Thank you.
[01:04] <Pyrobob> mmhmm
[01:04] <Captainbraille> lol
[01:04] <Psi-Jack> I'm pro anti-piracy, mind you.
[01:04] <Datsunzoso> caca
[01:04] <Pyrobob> technically its not piracy
[01:04] <Pyrobob> its using loopholes to an advantage
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> Pyrobob: Technically, theft of other's property is piracy.
[01:05] <Datsunzoso> does amaroK play mp3's?
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> Datsunzoso: Yes.
[01:05] <Datsunzoso> well why doesnt it :(
[01:05] <Pyrobob> ...
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> Datsunzoso: Get the xine amarok engine.
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> gstreamer sucks. :)
[01:05] <tarmath> hmm vmplayer is free, right? but you've got to have the real thing to actually make the vm, am i correct?
[01:05] <Datsunzoso> xine ... were that at mon
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: Correct.
[01:06] <bipolar> Psi-Jack: bah! gstreamer is fine :P
[01:06] <Pyrobob> xine... isn't that in the repos?
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: I'm licensed for VMWare Workstation, I just prefer the lightness the player-only has.
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> Pyrobob: Yes
[01:06] <Datsunzoso> so how do i solve my little conundrum?
[01:07] <Captainbraille> bipolar Psi-Jack: thanks for the help!
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> bipolar: No, gstreamer is the suck of all suck.
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> Great idea, mind you, just HORRIBLY implemented.
[01:07] <tarmath> psi-jack: do you notice any slowdown when you run it? does it take allot of cpu?
[01:07] <Datsunzoso> so anyone wanna help me lol
[01:07] <bipolar> Psi-Jack: and xine is the hack of all hacks. :P
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: Xine, or gstreamer?
[01:07] <Datsunzoso> ....
[01:07] <Datsunzoso> ahhhhh~!
[01:07] <tarmath> psi-jack: vmplayer
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> bipolar: Not really. :)
[01:07] <tarmath> heheh
[01:08] <bipolar> Psi-Jack: is too!
[01:08] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: Ohhhhh.. Sorry. Several topics at once. Yes, it eats a lot of CPU, even still. heh
[01:08] <bipolar> lol
[01:08] <Psi-Jack> Think about it. you're running a virtual machine running Windows, for crying out loud. ;}
[01:09] <tarmath> yea I sorta figured heheh
[01:09] <tarmath> but who knows, you could for example renice the vmplayer process to give it no priority at all by example, could you?
[01:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> guys
[01:10] <tarmath> man what was that sentence
[01:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am trying to compile kfstab
[01:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i installed qt4 since it requires qt > 3.0.1
[01:10] <bipolar> time for me to go guys. later!
[01:10] <tarmath> lates
[01:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i still have this error
[01:10] <Datsunzoso> cya bipolar
[01:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.1) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:11] <Datsunzoso> thanks for all ur help
[01:11] <Psi-Jack> tarmath: Yes, you can do that.
[01:11] <tarmath> tallia1kubuntu, you shouldve installed qt 3.3
[01:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried to use the following configure options, but i have the same problem.. am i making any error?
[01:11] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: it probably wants qt3.x, but you need the -dev package(s)
[01:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt4/include/ --with-qt-libraries=/usr/include/qt4/lib/
[01:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what do i have to do?
[01:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to get qt3.x^
[01:11] <tarmath> tallia1kubuntu, the program most likely was made for qt3, it cannot compile with qt4.
[01:12] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: install the *correct* qt3 packages.  the -dev packages
[01:12] <Psi-Jack> Tallia1Kubuntu: KDE 3.x uses Qt 3, not Qt3. KDE 4 will use Qt4.
[01:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[01:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> we are still in kde 3.5 right?
[01:12] <Psi-Jack> All major versions of KDE will use the same major version of Qt.
[01:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[01:12] <Psi-Jack> 3.5.1 yes
[01:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i thaught Qt was for gnome..
[01:12] <Pyrobob> KDE 3.5.1?
[01:12] <Pyrobob> I need to update
[01:12] <tarmath> open adept or whichever program you install packages with, and grab the qt3 dev
[01:12] <Pyrobob> ...<_<
[01:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anyway.. where i can find the qt3.5 package?
[01:13] <tarmath> there no qt 3.5!
[01:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sorry.. misplaced number
[01:13] <tarmath> open adept man
[01:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the upped 3.x version of qt
[01:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> upper*
[01:13] <tarmath> you got it open now?
[01:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[01:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wait a sec.. i am uninstalling qt4
[01:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in synaptics :)
[01:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[01:14] <tarmath> now you need libmt3-mt-dev
[01:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> open
[01:15] <patrix> isn't it libqt3-mt-dev
[01:15] <tarmath> yes sorry heheh
[01:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[01:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have filtered on libqt3 a
[01:16] <Datsunzoso> i have xine downloaded
[01:16] <Datsunzoso> que now
[01:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and all the packages but libqt3-mt-sqlite and libqt3c102-mt are installed
[01:16] <tarmath> okay, there's a package that should gives you everything you need... I think thats kde-devel
[01:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i already installed it
[01:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> filtering on kde-devel i have it installed
[01:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and *-extras not installed
[01:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tarmath: so?
[01:17] <tarmath> qt3-dev-tools?
[01:17] <Datsunzoso> :() ayuda!
[01:18] <Datsunzoso> help pleas
[01:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> installed
[01:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> already
[01:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tarmath: :(
[01:18] <patrix> waht's the problem anywya?
[01:18] <tarmath> so, have you tried without the qt4 stuff you feed it
[01:19] <user> I just got kubuntu to use smp and am really pleased.  Does anyone know of a tool to monitor cpu temp?
[01:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes. i just unistalled it
[01:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and tried
[01:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> a simple ./configure?
[01:19] <patrix> user: try xmbmon
[01:19] <tarmath> i dont know I have never tried compiling kfstab
[01:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that was my first try,..
[01:19] <user> thanks
[01:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same error
[01:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tarmath: it's not about kfstab
[01:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is about qt
[01:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have the same problem with another compilation
[01:20] <tarmath> I know it's about qt but it seems you're missing something and I dont know what
[01:20] <tarmath> can you paste the error again?
[01:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> couldn't be that it is searching for qt in the wrong place?
[01:21] <tarmath> it could
[01:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> maybe a system wide variable with a wrong value
[01:21] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: someitmes you need to tell the configuration script where to look for your libqt and libqt-dev files
[01:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a variable to store QT position?
[01:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> farous: what would you use in your system?
[01:21] <patrix> what is the error??
[01:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.1) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[01:22] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: it depends sometimes the config script will have options to specify where qt and libqt are installed sometimes i just edit the configure file
[01:22] <tarmath> sometimes QTDIR, but it depends on the application, it might be searching for it somewhere
[01:22] <patrix> hm ok
[01:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> farous: i mean.. which are your paths?
[01:22] <patrix> I had some weird configure problems too, a few days ago
[01:22] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: when of the easiest ways it to include it in your path never treid it but might work
[01:23] <patrix> I fixed them by installing build-essential  package
[01:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> because i found qt either in /usr/lib/qt3 and in /usr/include/qt3/lib
[01:23] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: those are exactly what i have
[01:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> which of them?
[01:23] <tarmath> tallia1kubuntu: forget about the first one
[01:23] <farous> but i just put in /usr/include/qt3
[01:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok, let me try
[01:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can i temporary change the path from command line?
[01:24] <tarmath> yea...
[01:24] <farous> export PATH=$PATH:
[01:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i remember that i can concatenate the old one and then export
[01:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[01:24] <tarmath> PATH=/usr/include/qt3:$PATH ./configure
[01:24] <patrix> whyh would you put /usr/include/qt3 in your $PATH ?
[01:25] <patrix> makes no sense lol
[01:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same error
[01:25] <tarmath> lol i wasnt paying attention
[01:25] <tarmath> :P
[01:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[01:25] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: some application need both the dev and lib paths
[01:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so, what should i do?
[01:25] <farous> so you need them both
[01:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me try
[01:25] <patrix> hm
[01:25] <farous> i had this prob while compiling the new lyx
[01:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so, /usr/lib/qt3 and /usr/include/qt3?
[01:26] <farous> ya both
[01:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same erro
[01:26] <patrix> yeah
[01:26] <farous> but your best bet is to edit the config file
[01:26] <patrix> hm
[01:26] <farous> tell it where to look specifically for it there
[01:26] <patrix> what application are you trying to compile Tallia1Kubuntu ?
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kfstab
[01:27] <patrix> url?
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but it is the same with other Kcompilations
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[01:27] <patrix> I'm gonna tyr it myself
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is in sourcefroge
[01:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[01:27] <Datsunzoso> hey guys, i have xine on my pc, how do i get it onto amarok
[01:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://kfstab.sourceforge.net/
[01:28] <patrix> which version Tallia1Kubuntu ?
[01:28] <patrix> Datsunzoso: install amarok-xine then select the Xine engine in the amarok settings menu
[01:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 7
[01:29] <Datsunzoso> how do i install it though
[01:29] <kj2006> what kind of file3system would be good for a linux installation partition> ext2fs ? alternatives?
[01:29] <kj2006> and for swap partition ?
[01:30] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: ok downloading....
[01:30] <Datsunzoso> ?
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: :)
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: another thing..
[01:30] <patrix> Datsunzoso: use adept, or use sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[01:31] <Datsunzoso> k
[01:31] <patrix> I get the same error as Tallia
[01:31] <patrix> interesting
[01:31] <patrix> didn't get this hwen I compiled a KDE app a few days ago
[01:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: suppose i want to maintain all the program files inside the same directory.. after i make , can i simply copy the dir somewhere and execute the program directly from inside the source compilation folder?
[01:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: can you help me going through this?
[01:32] <farous> hmm did you look for its conf and readme what qt lib it requires?
[01:32] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: for swap it's always "swap" fs
[01:32] <Datsunzoso> wtf
[01:32] <Datsunzoso> adept froze
[01:32] <farous> Datsunzoso: language
[01:32] <Datsunzoso> srry...
[01:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Datsunzoso: try to use synaptics
[01:32] <Datsunzoso> lol im just suprised
[01:32] <farous> no prob
[01:33] <kj2006> thanks rysiek
[01:33] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: for the installation (root) partition I'd recommend ReiserFS
[01:33] <rysiek|pl> or ext3
[01:33] <kj2006> what about nfs?
[01:33] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: wait..... hmmmm
[01:33] <rysiek|pl> (ext3 is a little bit better supported, reiser is a bit faster)
[01:34] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: nfs is Network File System - you use it when you want to share your files through network
[01:34] <kj2006> is nfs a disadvantage when i don\t have other computers in filesystem yet?
[01:34] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: I'm looking at the config.log where the error occurs
[01:34] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: you simply can't use nfs if you haven't got any other machines on your network
[01:35] <rysiek|pl> nfs server - running on machine A - serves the files, and nfs clients on other machines in the network can use the files shared by A through NFS
[01:35] <kj2006> ok, then i will not have to consider that yet
[01:36] <kj2006> i am going to buy a new machine next month
[01:36] <rysiek|pl> if you have only one box, you don't need to use nfs (you can setup a server, but who's gonna use the files? :) )
[01:36] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: what's happening is that for some reason when the configure script tries to compile a test qt app it can't find any of hte header files
[01:36] <kj2006> rysiek...i thought i could plan aheaad <(
[01:36] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: then NFS will be a good solution for sharing files when you have more than one box :)
[01:37] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: you can
[01:37] <rysiek|pl> you can setup a NFS server right now
[01:37] <rysiek|pl> but it runs on top of your other filesystems
[01:37] <rysiek|pl> so anyway you need to have other filesystems on the box
[01:38] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: I GOT IT!
[01:38] <kj2006> ah so i can have an ext3fs or reiserfs with nfs on top_
[01:38] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: try this:
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: precisely :)
[01:38] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> nfs is *just* a way of sharing files through a network
[01:38] <kj2006> thank you :)
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> no problem
[01:38] <kj2006> i can see more clearly now :)
[01:39] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: seem you did not read the readme file :)
[01:39] <rysiek|pl> you'll see even more clearly in a minute
[01:39] <rysiek|pl> !tell kj2006 about nfs
[01:39] <kameron> trying to burn a cd iso (linux image), i get this error. i tried changing writing methods, and i swapped discs, changed speeds, ran k3bsetup again. please see my error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i9736
[01:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> farous: my readme doesn't say anything more than ./configure, make, make install
[01:40] <kj2006> what magic command was that?
[01:40] <farous> Tallia1Kubuntu: good luck then hope it works patrix way
[01:40] <rysiek|pl> kazzam! ;) it's a way of using the Ubuntu bot
[01:40] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: seems the compilation fails when it gets to the docbook stuff though
[01:40] <rysiek|pl> !tell kj2006 about ubotu
[01:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ./configure --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
[01:41] <patrix> actually it doesn't fail, the error is ignored and compilation continues, Tallia1Kubuntu
[01:41] <patrix> cool
[01:41] <kj2006> rysiek thank you very much....tomorrow will be installation day!
[01:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am compiling too now
[01:42] <kj2006> gn8
[01:42] <ryanakca> does editing the /etc/issue cause errors?
[01:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :) :)
[01:42] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: gluck :)
[01:42] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: now for your other question, about running it from its own directory, I have a counter-question: why? ;)
[01:43] <rysiek|pl> going to get some sleep, guys. cu all and take care. :)
[01:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> because otherwise i dunno how to uninstall them
[01:43] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: with   make uninstall
[01:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes but i need to keep the source
[01:43] <patrix> yeah that means you ahve to keep a copy of the source code around....
[01:44] <Datsunzoso> ok...
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i'd like to see an package buiilder using the configure
[01:44] <Datsunzoso> i got xine
[01:44] <Datsunzoso> but that dont work
[01:44] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: there is
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> really?
[01:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> how it is called?
[01:44] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: it's called, I believe, checkconfig or something like that. I used it a long time ago, it didn't work too well on slackware but it was cool :)
[01:44] <patrix> Datsunzoso: do you have amarok-xine ?
[01:45] <Datsunzoso> yea
[01:45] <Datsunzoso> i do
[01:45] <Datsunzoso> but it wont play the songs
[01:45] <patrix> so quit amarok and restart it
[01:45] <nuky> does anyone know a good webcam application for kde? something that can be networked?
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> checkinstall
[01:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !checkinstall
[01:45] <ubotu> checkinstall is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[01:45] <patrix> yes checkinstall there you go
[01:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> does it works COMPLETELY automatically?
[01:46] <patrix> you can make it automatic yes
[01:46] <patrix> so the process would be like
[01:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i mean, asa i make install a source it add entry ?
[01:46] <ryanakca> does editing the /etc/issue cause errors?
[01:46] <avu> ryanakca: no
[01:46] <Datsunzoso> yea that didnt  solve it
[01:47] <patrix> ./configure --blablsbla && make && checkinstall -y -d  (or hwatever the options are to create a debian package)
[01:47] <Datsunzoso> sigh :(
[01:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: i get compilation Parser error in kfstab
[01:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: do you?
[01:48] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: the docbook stuff?
[01:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[01:48] <patrix> yesh, but look what it says at some point, it says "Error: 1 (ignored)"
[01:48] <patrix> it's just documentation, who needs it ;)
[01:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you are right
[01:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[01:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> weird..
[01:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> isn't adept faster than synaptics?
[01:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried to use it now for a couple of installs and it's not so bad
[01:49] <Datsunzoso> damn
[01:50] <Datsunzoso> so how do i get amarock to play mp3s?
[01:50] <patrix> Datsunzoso: so you restarted amarok, and you selected the xine engine?
[01:50] <Datsunzoso> yea i did
[01:50] <patrix> hmmm
[01:50] <patrix> did you also install akode-mpeg ?
[01:51] <Datsunzoso> i dont think so
[01:51] <patrix> (note that the last time I tired to install that package, the version in the ubuntu repositories was broken so I had to get it from somewhere else)
[01:51] <Datsunzoso> oh rly?
[01:51] <Datsunzoso> i used adept to install it
[01:51] <Datsunzoso> whici figure goes through there right?
[01:52] <patrix> yeah tryu it with adept
[01:52] <patrix> it'll tel you if it doesn't work
[01:52] <patrix> "size mismatched" or something was the error I got
[01:52] <Datsunzoso> i used adept!
[01:52] <Datsunzoso> and it doesnt work
[01:52] <Datsunzoso> i have the actual gz file though
[01:52] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: ok I just tried checkinstall on kfstab,   sudo checkinstall -y -D
[01:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> aha
[01:53] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: it didn't work cause I had to set the version number, so I did sudo checkinstall -D
[01:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i was actually asking you why i  have this error
[01:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`kfstab') doesn't contain any digits
[01:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file
[01:53] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: answered yes to the doc-pak question
[01:53] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: then when it showed me all the differengt balues, I saw "Version: [kfstab] "  and I changed that to "Version: [0.7] " aqnd now it worked
[01:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> don't you get the contain any digit error?
[01:54] <patrix> Datsunzoso: I have the akode-mpeg deb package here on my PC, you want it?
[01:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> do you execute the program inside the source folder?
[01:54] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: yeah, that happens because you ran it with -y , run it without the -y to manually answer the questions. it's not painfulk, trust me ;)
[01:54] <Datsunzoso> what is the akode mpg deb pakage?
[01:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: i tried.. before you told me the command
[01:55] <patrix> Datsunzoso: the kde sound server codecs to play mp3 files
[01:55] <Datsunzoso> ok sure sounds good
[01:55] <patrix> Datsunzoso: not sure if it's 100% requir4ed for amarok-xine, your problem might be different I dunno, but I have th package and I can play mp3s in amarok, with either xine or gstreamer
[01:57] <patrix> Datsunzoso: http://www.patrix.org/akode/
[01:57] <Datsunzoso> ok
[01:57] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: so.. is it working?
[01:57] <Datsunzoso> ok what do i do with that file?
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> without putting y
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i still get the same problem
[01:58] <patrix> Datsunzoso: download it, and either right-click it -> actions -> install package, or open a terminal and type sudo dpkg -i akode<tab>
[01:58] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: ok, run it checkinstall -D
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dpkg-deb - error: (upstream) version (`kfstab') doesn't contain any digits
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dpkg-deb: 1 errors in control file
[01:58] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: then say y to the first question
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that's what i ge
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> t
[01:59] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: then you'll get "This package will be built accoprding to these values:" anda  ubnch of values follow, yes?
[01:59] <Maks0n> Hey guys, I'm a mad newbie and I want to install KDE with Ubuntu, I was just wondering what the main differences are?
[01:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[01:59] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu: you need to change the 3rd one, Version to say 0.7 instead of kfstab
[01:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[01:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried before
[01:59] <patrix> then it'll work
[01:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but let me try again
[02:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no
[02:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same error
[02:00] <patrix> are you sure you changed Version to 0.7 ??
[02:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[02:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but before the bunch of values
[02:00] <Datsunzoso> yea that didnt work or im a total noob
[02:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i get this
[02:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> *** Warning: The package version "kfstab" does not
[02:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> *** Warning: contain any digits. dpkg might not like that.
[02:00] <patrix> and are you running (sorry didn't mention that) sudo checkinstall -D      ?
[02:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[02:01] <patrix> Datsunzoso: ok wait a moment I'm gonna finish helping Tallia1Kubuntu , this multitasking is starting to be tiring ;)
[02:01] <Datsunzoso> its cool thanks for the help
[02:01] <patrix> ok
[02:01] <patrix> Tallia1Kubuntu... your error message tells me the version is still "kfstab" and not "0.7"
[02:02] <patrix> need to change version, not Name
[02:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to change the version before executing check..
[02:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i know
[02:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Enter a number to change any of them or press ENTER to continue: 3
[02:02] <patrix> yes
[02:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 3 -  Version: [ 0.7 ] 
[02:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> then i press continue
[02:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Installing Debian package... FAILED!
[02:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> *** Failed to install the package
[02:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Do you want to see the log file?  [y] :
[02:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ahha
[02:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am an idiot
[02:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[02:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i didn't close ADEPT
[02:03] <patrix> ohyhhhhhh
[02:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> man thanks a lots
[02:04] <patrix> no prob :)
[02:04] <patrix> okay
[02:04] <patrix> Datsunzoso:
[02:04] <patrix> your turn ;)
[02:05] <Datsunzoso> horray
[02:05] <patrix> hehe
[02:05] <patrix> ok so what's the status
[02:05] <Datsunzoso> so yea i cant play the mp3 on amarok
[02:05] <patrix> you got akode-mpeg, amarok-xine, and.....?
[02:05] <Datsunzoso> i have xine
[02:05] <Datsunzoso> akod-mpeg no
[02:05] <Datsunzoso> u gave me the link but it didnt owrk
[02:05] <Datsunzoso> or i dont think i know how to use it right
[02:06] <patrix> can you play other files with amarok, such as .wav ?
[02:06] <Datsunzoso> i dont have a .wav file to try it out on
[02:06] <patrix> hmpf
[02:06] <patrix> lol
[02:06] <patrix> yes you do
[02:06] <patrix> KDE is full of wav files
[02:06] <patrix> lol
[02:06] <Datsunzoso> lol
[02:06] <Datsunzoso> true
[02:07] <pussfeller> i got an ipod icon on my desktop, but my ipods not plugged in
[02:07] <pussfeller> what gives
[02:07] <pussfeller> how do i remove this
[02:07] <Flosoft> what is kded?
[02:07] <patrix> Datsunzoso: /usr/share/sounds
[02:07] <Flosoft> I constantly get an error window from crashmanager
[02:09] <patrix> Datsunzoso: waitingl....
[02:09] <Datsunzoso> no it dont play em
[02:10] <patrix> hmm
[02:10] <patrix> Datsunzoso: but can kde play the wav files, like if you get an error, or the startup sound, etc?
[02:11] <Datsunzoso> im not sure
[02:11] <patrix> heh
[02:11] <patrix> so you don't get sound when KDE starts up?
[02:11] <Datsunzoso> idk
[02:11] <Datsunzoso> maybe not
[02:12] <Datsunzoso> i didnt have my speakers plugged in when i started kde up
[02:12] <Datsunzoso> maybe i gotta restart?
[02:12] <patrix> restart is for windows wussies
[02:12] <Datsunzoso> :\
[02:12] <Datsunzoso> so i should just kick linux in the balls? lol
[02:13] <patrix> well I gotta ask the obvious question first, are your speakers pluggedi n now lol
[02:13] <Datsunzoso> yea they r
[02:13] <Datsunzoso> thats y i didnt answer when u said waiting
[02:13] <patrix> is the sound system active ?
[02:13] <Datsunzoso> i was checking they are
[02:13] <Datsunzoso> sound system yea its on
[02:13] <Pyrobob> Datsunzoso, you SHOULD kick linux in teh balls
[02:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: have you ever tried to install Kine?
[02:13] <Pyrobob> o.o
[02:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i had problem with that too..
[02:13] <patrix> no never tried Tallia1Kubuntu
[02:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i'd like to have the last version because it can import avi
[02:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i have problems there too
[02:14] <Datsunzoso> hmm
[02:14] <patrix> Datsunzoso: so the speakers are polugged in, is hte sound system active?
[02:14] <Datsunzoso> yea its active
[02:14] <patrix> if you "test sound" in the Sound&multimedia settings, do yuy hear something?
[02:15] <Datsunzoso> no i dont hear anything
[02:15] <Datsunzoso> i have a pci soundcard
[02:15] <patrix> hmmmm
[02:15] <Datsunzoso> perhaps i have to install some type of software for it?
[02:15] <patrix> I have a pci sound card too, didn't have any trouble
[02:16] <Datsunzoso> damn
[02:16] <patrix> cat /dev/sndstat
[02:16] <ryanakca> brb
[02:17] <Datsunzoso> ?
[02:17] <patrix> type that in a terminal
[02:17] <patrix> see what htat tells you
[02:17] <Datsunzoso> oh ok
[02:17] <Datsunzoso> it says that sb live 5.1 is installed
[02:17] <Datsunzoso> thats the sound card
[02:18] <patrix> and it lists at least one audio device and mixer?
[02:18] <Datsunzoso> i have the pci card and the onboard sound device, might they be conflicting?
[02:18] <patrix> could be. I disabled my onboard sound iun the BIOS
[02:19] <Datsunzoso> i tried the onboard sound
[02:19] <Datsunzoso> still dont work
[02:19] <Datsunzoso> ...
[02:19] <Datsunzoso> so i gotta go into bios and disbale it?
[02:19] <Datsunzoso> oki doki
[02:19] <patrix> we,ll it's one possibility
[02:19] <Datsunzoso> im gonna  try that... if that fails, idk what im gonna do
[02:19] <Datsunzoso> ill be back here though in 10
[02:19] <Datsunzoso> thanks
[02:22] <eddy> I've installed kubuntu, Now I've got a problem with any kind of authentication
[02:23] <eddy> Can someone help me?
[02:24] <Datsunzoso> ok
[02:25] <Datsunzoso> i got sound now
[02:25] <Datsunzoso> disabled the onboard sound
[02:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: can you give me a suggestion how to solve this?
[02:26] <Tallia1Kubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot >= Qt 2.1 beta2) (libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[02:26] <Flosoft> anyone knows how to fix the kded problem?
[02:26] <Datsunzoso> ok so at this point i have sound, but i still dont have the use of mp3's
[02:26] <visik7> anyone with an alcatel speedtouchhome here ?
[02:27] <Datsunzoso> any1 think they can help me?
[02:28] <Datsunzoso> i cant get mp3's to work on amarok, i have xine installed already
[02:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: :) plz
[02:30] <Datsunzoso> zome1 help me!
[02:32] <NRG88> hi, may i ask about ubuntu, because on the other channel i never get responses >:\
[02:32] <NRG88> ?
[02:32] <Datsunzoso> same here lol
[02:33] <NRG88> i used kubuntu, but wanted to make ubuntu from it
[02:33] <NRG88> looks like i like gnome more :)
[02:33] <NRG88> but, i don't have update notifier
[02:34] <NRG88> it's installed and everything, but it doesn't start :(
[02:35] <NRG88> i managed to use gdm, and the original ubuntu bootscreen
[02:36] <NRG88> but the black mouse theme is the same from the first kde theme
[02:36] <NRG88> and no update notifier starts :(
[02:36] <NRG88> well what do you know
[02:36] <NRG88> alt+f2
[02:36] <NRG88> update-notifier
[02:36] <NRG88> thanks for the help guys :D
[02:37] <NRG88> it works ;D
[02:38] <NRG88> brb, i'll just logout, and check Save current settings or whatever
[02:43] <Flosoft> anyone here using XDMCP with Kubuntu as host?
[02:43] <Flosoft> I always have the problem that my mouse doesn't work
[02:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no
[02:44] <patrix> ok I'm back
[02:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: :)
[02:44] <patrix> Datsunzoso: so you got sound now?
[02:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> patrix: do you know how to solve this?
[02:45] <Datsunzoso> ugh
[02:45] <Datsunzoso> yea igot sound
[02:45] <Datsunzoso> but mp3s dont work
[02:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (snapshot >= Qt 2.1 beta2) (libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[02:46] <patrix> ok ok one problem at a time ;)
[02:46] <Datsunzoso> deal with his
[02:46] <patrix> Datsunzoso: so you got sound, stil no mp3. time to try that akode-mpeg pcakge mayube
[02:46] <Datsunzoso> ill be back, im eating now
[02:46] <Datsunzoso> after food lol
[02:47] <Datsunzoso> help tallia out first
[02:47] <patrix> ok
[02:47] <patrix> what are you trying now Tallia1Kubuntu .. looks like an old program, to depend on such an old QT bversion
[02:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[02:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is an old
[02:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> game
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and then i'd like to ask you if you can give me an hand to install the last version of kino
[02:48] <patrix> well I've no garantee the old game will work
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let's forget about that one
[02:48] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kino is more useful
[02:49] <patrix> kino - non-linear editor for digital video data?
[02:49] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[02:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have 0.8 but to edit avi i need 1.0
[02:50] <patrix> well I see it in the poackages repository
[02:50] <patrix> oh
[02:50] <patrix> looks like a gnome application
[02:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[02:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://www.kinodv.org/
[02:51] <patrix> I don't see a 1.0 release on that page
[02:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the last one sorry
[02:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the one with AVI support
[02:53] <patrix> latest one is 0.8
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wait
[02:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> they upgraded the repositories
[02:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me try if AVI works
[02:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> meh
[02:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't think it is working very good
[02:57] <patrix> heh
[02:57] <patrix> well I dunno, never tried any of it
[02:58] <Datsunzoso> mm
[02:59] <patrix> so Datsunzoso
[02:59] <Datsunzoso> yes sir
[02:59] <patrix> you get sound but no mp3
[03:00] <Datsunzoso> ya
[03:00] <Datsunzoso> i found this program called xmms
[03:00] <Datsunzoso> it claims to play mp3s
[03:00] <Datsunzoso> but i have no idea how to use the tar.gz files
[03:00] <gm152> xmms does.
[03:00] <patrix> lol
[03:00] <patrix> ok ok ok one thing at a time
[03:01] <Datsunzoso> kk
[03:01] <patrix> hmmm
[03:01] <patrix> so can amarok play a wav file, now?
[03:01] <Datsunzoso> ugh
[03:01] <Datsunzoso> yea
[03:02] <patrix> okay :)
[03:02] <patrix> hmmmm did you install akode-mpeg ?
[03:02] <Datsunzoso> no
[03:02] <patrix> well let's try thast first, then
[03:02] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:03] <Datsunzoso> how do i do that
[03:04] <patrix> rightclick the .deb file you downloaded
[03:04] <patrix> go to actions->install package
[03:05] <Datsunzoso> ugh  can i get the link to it?
[03:05] <Datsunzoso> i think i deleted it
[03:05] <patrix> http://patrix.org/akode/
[03:06] <patrix> I fuond that file by doing a google search for the edxact package name
[03:06] <patrix> because hte one in the repositories is broken
[03:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody know ffmpeg?
[03:06] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:07] <Datsunzoso> it  installd it but it said that errors were  encountered
[03:07] <patrix> oh?
[03:07] <patrix> I don't remember errors, myself
[03:08] <Datsunzoso> is says there were errors
[03:08] <patrix> and doesn't say what hte errors were?
[03:09] <Datsunzoso> it says "errors wer encountered while processing: akode-mpeg
[03:09] <patrix> heh
[03:09] <patrix> so I Guess it didn't install it
[03:09] <patrix> hmmm
[03:09] <Datsunzoso> sigh
[03:10] <gm152> Tallia1Kubuntu: ffmpeg didn't compile for me.  Otherwise, i would use it.
[03:10] <patrix> you didn't upgrade to kde 3.5.1 did you?
[03:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gm152: weren't you in #linux
[03:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i downloaded it now from repositories :)
[03:10] <gm152> Tallia1Kubuntu: i still am.
[03:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and it is converting now
[03:11] <gm152> good.  :)
[03:11] <patrix> Datsunzoso: you're still on kde 3.4.3 ? or did you upgrade to 3.5.1 ?
[03:11] <Datsunzoso> idk
[03:11] <Datsunzoso> how do i  check
[03:11] <patrix> help -> bout KDE  in any kde app ;)
[03:12] <Datsunzoso> 3.4.3
[03:12] <patrix> okay
[03:13] <Datsunzoso> isnt 5.1 in developmental stages?
[03:13] <patrix> nah 3.5.1 was released a while ago
[03:13] <patrix> hmmm
[03:14] <Datsunzoso> so any ideas?
[03:14] <patrix> welcome to free software, where ideology is more importnat than functinoality!
[03:14] <patrix> lol
[03:14] <Datsunzoso> well can i try xmms?
[03:14] <Datsunzoso> its a tar.gz
[03:14] <Datsunzoso> what would  i do to install it
[03:14] <patrix> compile it
[03:14] <Datsunzoso> como? how?
[03:15] <patrix> ugh.. by tracking down all the -dev pacjages you need for it, then issuing a few commands in a terminal
[03:15] <Datsunzoso> ....
[03:15] <Datsunzoso> lol
[03:15] <Datsunzoso> explain this to me if i was a 10 year old and this was my first time lol
[03:16] <patrix> lol
[03:16] <patrix> install libgtk1.2-dev
[03:16] <patrix> at the very least you need that packagfe to compile xmms
[03:17] <Datsunzoso> i understand some stuff, but not all, guide me throught please!
[03:17] <Datsunzoso> i already have the tar.gz extracted
[03:17] <Datsunzoso> what would i have to do now
[03:17] <patrix> go in the directory created
[03:17] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:17] <patrix> and type the following commands:
[03:17] <patrix> ./configure
[03:17] <patrix> make
[03:17] <patrix> make install
[03:18] <patrix> configure looks for the libraries it needs and creates the files that will guidfe make into compiling it
[03:18] <patrix> make follows the Makefile instructions and makes (!) the application
[03:18] <patrix> make install installs it
[03:18] <patrix> goptta sudo make install
[03:18] <patrix> or hey like Tallia1Kubuntu you can try checkinstall instead of make install, to make it create a nice deb package
[03:19] <Datsunzoso> i did ./configure
[03:20] <Datsunzoso> and it did some stuff than it says configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[03:20] <patrix> well yeah, you need a C compiler to compile stuff.... hehe
[03:20] <LjL> Datsunzoso: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[03:20] <patrix> install the build-essential package
[03:20] <patrix> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:20] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:21] <Datsunzoso> its doooing it now
[03:21] <Datsunzoso> dones
[03:21] <Datsunzoso> now try it?
[03:21] <patrix> now
[03:21] <patrix> sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev
[03:21] <LjL> you should probably use "sudo checkinstall" rather than "sudo make install" for installing
[03:21] <LjL> (after installing checkinstall that is)
[03:21] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:22] <patrix> ok now try ./configure
[03:22] <patrix> again
[03:22] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:22] <Datsunzoso> now its doin somethin less morbid
[03:23] <Datsunzoso> done
[03:23] <patrix> lol
[03:23] <patrix> lol @ less morbid
[03:23] <patrix> ok what did it say at the end
[03:23] <Datsunzoso> ugh
[03:23] <robotgeek> !compile
[03:23] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[03:23] <Datsunzoso> configuration
[03:23] <Datsunzoso> and the install path
[03:24] <Datsunzoso> than some more stuff
[03:24] <patrix> did it say yes to OSS plugin, ALSA plugin, Ogg vorbis plugin, etc
[03:24] <patrix> no ned for mikmod solaris or BSD plugins
[03:24] <Datsunzoso> yea
[03:24] <Datsunzoso> it said that stuff
[03:24] <patrix> good
[03:25] <patrix> now type make
[03:25] <Datsunzoso> oss, esd, solaris,bsd,also,mikmod,oggvorbs,opengl
[03:25] <Datsunzoso> everything no xcept for oss
[03:25] <patrix> ehhh
[03:25] <patrix> wait a minute
[03:25] <Datsunzoso> alsa ogg gotta be yes right?
[03:25] <patrix> yeh
[03:25] <Datsunzoso> how do i do that now
[03:26] <patrix> sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev libvorbis-dev
[03:27] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:27] <patrix> that should do it
[03:27] <Datsunzoso> ?
[03:27] <patrix> try ./configure again
[03:28] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:29] <Datsunzoso> now they read yes
[03:29] <patrix> groovy
[03:29] <patrix> now type make
[03:29] <Datsunzoso> ahhh lol
[03:29] <Datsunzoso> its  doin a bunch of stuff now
[03:30] <Datsunzoso> still doing it
[03:30] <Datsunzoso> wo, still goin
[03:30] <Datsunzoso> ij dibe
[03:30] <Datsunzoso> ok done...
[03:30] <patrix> fast computer ;)
[03:30] <patrix> ok now you hav 2 choices
[03:31] <Datsunzoso> red pill or blue pill.... hmm.
[03:31] <patrix> you can make it create a debian package, for easily uninstallation
[03:31] <patrix> or just isntall it
[03:31] <Datsunzoso> lets go with... debian pakage
[03:31] <patrix> ok
[03:31] <patrix> sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[03:32] <Datsunzoso> big money big money big money, no whammies!
[03:32] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:32] <patrix> now
[03:32] <patrix> checkinstall -D
[03:32] <Datsunzoso> ... going.....
[03:32] <patrix> er
[03:32] <patrix> sudo checkinstall -D
[03:32] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:33] <Datsunzoso> ok...
[03:33] <Datsunzoso> installatino failed
[03:33] <patrix> why
[03:33] <trelos> hello
[03:33] <trelos> i have a problem with configuring xinetd ...
[03:33] <Datsunzoso> no known documentaion were found. the new pakage wont include a documemtaion of directory
[03:33] <patrix> ok that's no problem
[03:33] <trelos> i'm trying to telnet to myself an i get a connection refused message
[03:34] <trelos> the configuratino seems to be ok,any idea why is that ?
[03:34] <patrix> Datsunzoso: I'm compilin and trying it out to see...
[03:35] <patrix> hm
[03:35] <patrix> Datsunzoso: did your compilation failed? mine did lol
[03:36] <Datsunzoso> i think it did
[03:36] <patrix> argh
[03:36] <trelos> anyone who has had a problem setting up telnet with xinetd ?
[03:37] <Datsunzoso> yea it failed
[03:37] <patrix> arrrghh Datsunzoso thisd is furustrating lol
[03:37] <Datsunzoso> yea
[03:37] <Datsunzoso> all i want to do is install a file
[03:37] <Datsunzoso> not cure cancer lol
[03:37] <patrix> indeed
[03:38] <patrix> I'm not sure why akiode-mpeg won't install anywa
[03:38] <patrix> lol
[03:38] <patrix> wtf
[03:38] <patrix> hmmm
[03:38] <Datsunzoso> wow
[03:38] <patrix> wanna try something?
[03:38] <patrix> wow what
[03:38] <Datsunzoso> lol sure
[03:39] <patrix> go in amarok config, engines
[03:39] <patrix> and fgor output plugin, instead of autodetect try oss
[03:39] <Datsunzoso> how do i go about doing that
[03:39] <patrix> in amarok
[03:40] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:40] <patrix> settings -> configure amarok
[03:40] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:40] <patrix> you know, the same place where you selected the xine engine
[03:40] <Datsunzoso> yea
[03:40] <patrix> you did select the xine engine didn't you? ;)
[03:40] <Datsunzoso> yes lol
[03:40] <patrix> now under the xine logo it sayus output plugin: autodfetect
[03:40] <patrix> well change autodetect to oss
[03:41] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:41] <patrix> I know with me and gstreamer plugin, I had to make it oss to make it work
[03:41] <Datsunzoso> ok than try a song?
[03:41] <patrix> yeah
[03:41] <patrix> hm but then if .wav files played iut's probably not that.. doh
[03:42] <Datsunzoso> yea no dive
[03:42] <Datsunzoso> *dice
[03:42] <patrix> no dice, biug dive! down down to hell! arghhh
[03:42] <patrix> ok well
[03:43] <patrix> I see 2 options, and after that I'm out of ideas for now
[03:43] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:43] <patrix> 1 - try installing gstreamer-mad and using the gstreamer engine for amarok
[03:43] <patrix> 2 - try akode-mpeg, find one that actually installs
[03:43] <patrix> try #2 first, then #1
[03:44] <Datsunzoso> gstreamer mad
[03:44] <Datsunzoso> ok how?
[03:44] <patrix> sudo apt-get install gstreamer-mad
[03:45] <Datsunzoso> couldnt find pakage gstream-mad
[03:45] <patrix> gstreamer-mad
[03:45] <Datsunzoso> yea thats what i typed
[03:46] <patrix> well uhm
[03:46] <patrix> oh
[03:46] <patrix> gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:46] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:46] <Datsunzoso> got it
[03:47] <patrix> ok now try the gstreamer engine in amarok, and the oss output plugin or osssink or whatgever they call it
[03:48] <Datsunzoso> ok
[03:48] <Datsunzoso> FINALLY!
[03:48] <Datsunzoso> thank god
[03:48] <Datsunzoso> w00t it works
[03:48] <patrix> woooooo!
[03:48] <Datsunzoso> I <3 YOU
[03:48] <patrix> one caveat though
[03:49] <Datsunzoso> ...
[03:49] <patrix> I have a few mp3 files that, for some reason, gstreamer has trouble with :(
[03:49] <Datsunzoso> oh rly
[03:49] <Datsunzoso> why
[03:49] <patrix> so at some point youmight still want to figure out xine support
[03:49] <patrix> but YEAH IT WORKS IN THE MEANTIME! :D :D :D
[03:49] <Datsunzoso> yea :D
[03:50] <patrix> imo you should still try to find a good akode-mpeg package that actually installs, it's a good idea to get mp3 support in all kde apps ;)
[03:50] <Datsunzoso> yea im gonna try that
[03:50] <Datsunzoso> only draw back from amarok i see is the ability to put your files in a nice order
[03:51] <Datsunzoso> like i remeber winamp would give you the artist name, and than their songs, amarok just gives you al lthe files in the folder
[03:51] <patrix> I'm sure you cna customize all that
[03:51] <patrix> it's a very featureful program
[03:51] <patrix> I quite enjoy the dynamic plaulist feature, it just chooses songs for me and manages the playlist, based on what I like to hear, so I rarelyu have to edit the playlist anyway lol
[03:52] <Datsunzoso> cool
[03:52] <Datsunzoso> wait
[03:52] <Datsunzoso> cool
[03:52] <Datsunzoso> i can do what i said i couldnt
[03:52] <patrix> ?
[03:52] <Datsunzoso> lol I  <3 amarok
[03:52] <patrix> oh yeah it's a great app :)
[03:52] <Datsunzoso> not winamp, but alot nicer and more linux.y
[03:53] <Datsunzoso> ok now onto firefox
[03:53] <patrix> :)
[03:53] <patrix> okay hten
[03:53] <Datsunzoso> ahaha
[03:53] <patrix> I can go take a break
[03:53] <Datsunzoso> yea
[03:53] <Datsunzoso> you do that
[03:54] <Datsunzoso> im gonna just surf the net with music, w00t
[03:54] <patrix> :D
[03:54] <patrix> later man
[03:54] <patrix> enjoy :)
[03:54] <Datsunzoso> thanks 4 ur help
[03:54] <patrix> np
[04:18] <Datsunzoso> why does kubuntu use so much memory?
[04:18] <Datsunzoso> well virtual memory
[04:18] <farous> Datsunzoso: do you mean cach
[04:18] <Datsunzoso> sure
[04:18] <farous> to make your application faster
[04:18] <farous> so do not worry aobut that
[04:18] <Datsunzoso> ...
[04:19] <Datsunzoso> !?
[04:19] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Datsunzoso
[04:19] <Datsunzoso> it says 85 processes, 800 mb used, 200 mb free
[04:19] <Datsunzoso> ugh worried!
[04:20] <Datsunzoso> any1 think thats too much?
[04:21] <farous> Datsunzoso: have you ever runned linux or unix before
[04:21] <farous> the number of processes is normal
[04:21] <farous> the mem i presume much of it is cash
[04:21] <Datsunzoso> sure havnt
[04:22] <Datsunzoso> im just worried bout hte virtual memory
[04:22] <Datsunzoso> it says 800 mb being used
[04:22] <farous> it is not like window. all procs are light weight
[04:22] <Datsunzoso> but why does it read such a high vm #?
[04:22] <farous> everything is listed window does not list them all
[04:23] <Datsunzoso> ?
[04:23] <farous> Datsunzoso: to store your most frequent programs so they run faster from the memory
[04:23] <Datsunzoso> oh i understand i suppose
[04:23] <farous> and why are you worried abou the ram usage
[04:23] <Datsunzoso> well... im not used to it being so high lol
[04:23] <farous> cach memory will not force your pc to use swap space
[04:24] <farous> lol i was always high on resources under windows.
[04:24] <Datsunzoso> im looking at physical memory, and it says 791, xxx kb used    244, xxx free
[04:24] <farous> Datsunzoso: type top in a termina
[04:24] <farous> will tell you how much is cach how much is used by progs
[04:25] <Datsunzoso> Tasks:  86 total,   1 running,  85 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[04:25] <Datsunzoso> Cpu(s): 20.3% us,  3.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 76.7% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
[04:25] <Datsunzoso> Mem:   1035888k total,   797416k used,   238472k free,    69808k buffers
[04:25] <Datsunzoso> Swap:  3028212k total,        0k used,  3028212k free,   520928k cache
[04:26] <Datsunzoso> ah srry
[04:26] <farous> use the pastebin
[04:26] <Datsunzoso> so what do u see from that jumbled up info
[04:26] <farous> anyway do not worry that is normal
[04:26] <patrix> yeah Datsunzoso it's normal :) the kernel reserves a lot of memory even though it's not all used right away
[04:26] <patrix> makes memory management more efficient
[04:27] <ICXCNIKA> Does anyone have any information on getting a Dell WLAN Wireless Modem to work with kubuntu/ubuntu?
[04:27] <patrix> anyone correct me if I'm wrong about what exactly is happening ;)
[04:29] <Datsunzoso> rawr
[04:31] <ICXCNIKA> I guess not.
[04:32] <farous> ICXCNIKA: you have to tell us what card you have
[04:32] <farous> !wireless
[04:32] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:32] <farous> ^  ^
[04:33] <Datsunzoso> gotta love these guys
[04:34] <ICXCNIKA> Dell Truemobile 13000
[04:34] <ICXCNIKA> 1300*
[04:34] <farous> ICXCNIKA: follow ubotu link man
[04:39] <kingpomba> !network
[04:39] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[04:40] <kingpomba> !KDE
[04:40] <ubotu> I guess kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[04:41] <Datsunzoso> buh bye
[04:42] <kingpomba> !dual boot
[04:42] <ubotu> kingpomba: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:45] <mr-russ> kingpomba: if you install it, it will detect other OS's and add them to the boot menu
[04:50] <kingpomba> woot 60% of the way there
[04:53] <kingpomba> i know ubuntu can go from gnome to KDE but can kubuntu go from KDE to gnome
[05:04] <tarmath> kingpomba, its possible, but not as easily
[05:05] <tarmath> unfortunately, theres no ubuntu-desktop package.
[05:06] <kingpomba> oh
[05:07] <kingpomba> because i thought alot of app run on gnome and not on kde
[05:08] <mr-russ> kingpomba: you just install the app, it will install the relevant gnome librarys to run the program
[05:11] <kingpomba> oh is that all
[05:12] <kingpomba> thanks mate i was panic for a second
[05:13] <mr-russ> kingpomba: what state are you in?
[05:16] <_can> bonjour !
[05:22] <kingpomba> victoria
[05:44] <Kr4t05> How do I get to the Control Center? I've tried every thing.
[05:45] <tarmath_> such as typing kcontrol in konsole?
[05:46] <Kr4t05> tarmath_: Hey, that might work.
[05:55] <jp> hello?
[05:58] <jp> I guess there is no one here
[06:02] <KentJonathan> hello
[06:06] <KentJonathan> hello?
[06:06] <firephoto> hi
[06:07] <KentJonathan> firephoto you help here?
[06:07] <firephoto> only if it's kde related..
[06:07] <firephoto> i do have kubuntu installed on the test box though. heh
[06:07] <KentJonathan> ook
[06:08] <firephoto> ook heh
[06:11] <firephoto> so, i have dapper running on the test box, I had breezy on the laptop 6 months ago to try, anyway... dapper is working great with kde, few quirks, i'm just curious of the long term, getting the latest apps, stuff (not)breaking, etc.
[06:11] <firephoto> opinions/thoughts/whatever wanted. ;)
[06:37] <nrdb> I am trying to run 'uisp' the avr micro programmer I am getting an error message "/dev/parport0: No such file or directory" I don't have any parport0 in my devs directory! how would I create one?
[06:42] <ICXCNIKA> !mp3
[06:42] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[06:42] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:43] <ICXCNIKA> Hm. I can't download the things needed to play mp3s.
[06:43] <ICXCNIKA> Says gstreamer is outdated or something
[06:46] <nrdb> I am trying to run 'uisp' the avr micro programmer I am getting an error message "/dev/parport0: No such file or directory" I don't have any parport0 in my devs directory! how would I create one?
[07:02] <Snake|FMJ> Is there a way to restart X so that resume desktop is reset to default?
[07:03] <farous> Snake|FMJ: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:03] <farous> is that what you are looking for?
[07:03] <Snake|FMJ> farous: I did that but then the programs that it I had loaded still reloaded
[07:03] <ICXCNIKA> ok I can't get mp3s to play.
[07:04] <ICXCNIKA> It just keeps buffering.
[07:04] <Snake|FMJ> my friends keeps on hanging on start up with GAIM, so he wanted to reset the resume desktop feature
[07:04] <farous> i have no idea what ou are talking about
[07:04] <firephoto> Snake|FMJ: you need to just make sure gaim is closed when you log out
[07:05] <Snake|FMJ> firephoto: yes I know, but his KDE wont load to shut it down
[07:05] <firephoto> oh..
[07:05] <Snake|FMJ> It keeps freezing at the splash screen
[07:05] <firephoto> is it a new install? or recent?
[07:05] <Snake|FMJ> Recent i believe
[07:06] <Snake|FMJ> Meh whatever, ill check it out later, he just got kicked offline again and im watchin full metal jacket, ill check back later
[07:06] <firephoto> you can delete the ~/.kde/share/config/session/
[07:07] <firephoto> should be an entry for for gaim, or delete them all
[07:07] <Snake|FMJ> Ah ha! thank you :))
[07:07] <ICXCNIKA> gstreamer doesn't seem to be working at all
[07:07] <Snake|FMJ> ICXCNIKA: then get xine
[07:07] <Snake|FMJ> !xine
[07:07] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Snake|FMJ
[07:07] <Snake|FMJ> :-/
[07:07] <firephoto> xine doesn't play mp3's for me on the kubuntu box (amarok)
[07:08] <Snake|FMJ> Why not? lol
[07:08] <Snake|FMJ> I dunno cant talk now
[07:08] <Snake|FMJ> Watching war
[07:08] <ICXCNIKA> couldn't find package xine
[07:09] <Snake|FMJ> ICXCNIKA: its like amarok-xine I think
[07:09] <Snake|FMJ> !info amarok-xine
[07:09] <ubotu> amarok-xine: (xine engine for the amaroK audio player), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 46 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[07:09] <Snake|FMJ> There
[07:09] <ICXCNIKA> Uhh...okay.
[07:10] <Snake|FMJ> ICXCNIKA: sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[07:10] <Snake|FMJ> go into the config, set that as the engine
[07:10] <ICXCNIKA> Couldn't find package
[07:10] <Snake|FMJ> Do you have uni/multi repos enabled?
[07:10] <ICXCNIKA> I'm sorry. I'm new to Linux.
[07:11] <ICXCNIKA> What?
[07:11] <Snake|FMJ> !sources
[07:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:11] <Snake|FMJ> ICXCNIKA: I assume you didnt do this either
[07:11] <Snake|FMJ> !mp3
[07:11] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[07:11] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:11] <Snake|FMJ> Alright no more sorry
[07:45] <fatejudger> what is the best way to view your CPU temp in Kubuntu?
[07:45] <fatejudger> I figured that superkaramba might have a widget for that, but none work so far
[07:45] <Tm_T> fatejudger: have you tried conky/torsmo?
[07:45] <fatejudger> Tm_T: no
[07:46] <fatejudger> Tm_T: which one is more KDE centric?
[07:46] <Tm_T> they both are not KDE software
[07:46] <Tm_T> torsmo is old, conky is just "updated version" of it
[07:47] <fatejudger> well is there some KDE prog that I can use?
[07:47] <Tm_T> ksensors
[07:48] <fatejudger> I also was curious if anyone knew what the bandwidth overhead of running a VPN server was
[07:48] <fatejudger> and whether that would be advantageous for constant sharing/streaming music and files
[07:49] <fatejudger> I have a feeling my CPU doesn't have a temperature gauge
[07:50] <fatejudger> I just stuck my CPU back in my computer without re-applying thermal paste
[07:50] <fatejudger> I'm thinking it's gonna overheat soon
[08:00] <neoncode> Is their a firewall enabled by default in kubuntu?
[08:01] <fatejudger> no, it's Linux
[08:01] <fatejudger> we're too cool for firewalls
[08:01] <fatejudger> if you're THAT paranoid, you can get one though
[08:01] <Tm_T> there is firewall installed and basically running bydefault
[08:02] <Tm_T> it's part of kernel
[08:02] <fatejudger> Tm_T: there is?
[08:02] <fatejudger> Tm_T: well that doesn't really count
[08:02] <Tm_T> it does
[08:02] <fatejudger> Tm_T: that just closes ports
[08:02] <fatejudger> Tm_T: and opens them
[08:02] <fatejudger> Tm_T: any OS should do that
[08:02] <neoncode> Hmmm... I set my gamecube to use my computer as a proxy but it's not sending anything to this. I checked with a packet sniffer. I thought a firewall might be blocking them
[08:02] <Tm_T> fatejudger: iptables, oh, all those nice GUI "firewalls" are just GUI for iptables
[08:03] <neoncode> Well whatever it is, how do I tell it to allow all comunications with a certan IP.
[08:03] <Tm_T> hmm
[08:03] <Tm_T> !firewall
[08:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[08:03] <Tm_T> ;)
[08:04] <neoncode> wonderfull, I'm glad that I litraly do have all day... (it's 7:03 AM and I plan to stay up all day... stayed awake though the night and all...)
[08:04] <Tm_T> hehe
[08:04] <Tm_T> 0904 here
[08:05] <Tm_T> andno, no sleep last night
[08:06] <Tm_T> did this whole morning: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current-temp.png
[08:06] <neoncode> sleep is for the week. I even got out a 2ltr bottle of diet coke. I used to be addcted to the stuff for about 3 years I drunk nothing else. I went off it but I kinna need it for fast caffine.
[08:06] <Tm_T> nice background, eh?
[08:06] <neoncode> *weak
[08:06] <Tm_T> diet coke? no sugar? yuuukk
[08:07] <neoncode> Whatever. It's caffinated and I have like 4 bottles of the stuff. Bring it!
[08:07] <Tm_T> yuh'
[08:11] <Tm_T> nocloud: liked the background there?
[08:11] <nocloud> what background?
[08:11] <nocloud> i've got a question
[08:11] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can upgrade from Hoary HedgeHog to Breezy Badger?
[08:11] <Tm_T> whooops
[08:12] <Tm_T> nocloud: ignore my question
[08:12] <Tm_T> !distupgrade
[08:12] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tm_T
[08:12] <Tm_T> hmm
[08:12] <nocloud> !distupgrade
[08:12] <nocloud> ?
[08:12] <Tm_T> !upgrade
[08:12] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to dapper Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[08:12] <Tm_T> ah, there
[08:13] <nocloud> and just curious, when is the next major release for kubuntu?
[08:13] <cable21> hmm
[08:14] <Tm_T> nocloud: year after hoary
[08:14] <nocloud> when did hoary come out again?
[08:14] <Tm_T> that means 6.04
[08:14] <Tm_T> 5.04
[08:15] <nocloud> ooh
[08:15] <nocloud> so, next month then
[08:16] <Tm_T> yup
[08:16] <nocloud> awesome
[08:16] <nocloud> thanks guys
[08:16] <nocloud> going to attempt the upgrade right now
[08:19] <neoncode> ok progress! my Gamecube is now talking to my PC.
[08:20] <hoobustink> why is it that, these sequence of command drop my internet connection for outgoing: first command: iptables -F  2nd: iptables -A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT 3rd: iptables -A INPUT -j DROP 4th: iptables -A FORWARD -j DROP
[08:20] <hoobustink> ?
[08:21] <hoobustink> those were the command i typed from first to 4th and my connection outgoing was dropped
[08:22] <hoobustink> any ideas?
[08:26] <ttread> hoobustink, the INPUT needs to jump to ACCEPT also
[08:28] <hoobustink> ttread why im not running any program inside my box
[08:28] <ttread> hoobustink your computer needs to be able to accept incoming packets
[08:28] <ttread> at least some of them
[08:29] <hoobustink> hmmm so this iptables is totally different from fedora and redhat
[08:29] <hoobustink> cuz if i do that i can still get internet connection
[08:29] <ttread> yeah iptables is actually rather complex
[08:30] <hoobustink> if i do those 4 commands above in fedora i have internet connection outgoing
[08:30] <ttread> I don't know about RH/fedora, last time I used it was a couple of years ago
[08:31] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can change my repositories in the kynaptic package manager?
[08:31] <hoobustink> ttread do you have a basic iptables command for this that incoming should be blocked and outgoing is open?
[08:31] <neoncode> How can I make it so that when one computer makes a DNS request for a certan URL my computer responds and tells this computer that that site is at my computers IP?
[08:31] <ttread> !iptables
[08:33] <ttread> hoobustink, if you block all incoming packets then you won't receive any data from the internet
[08:33] <neoncode> !iptables
[08:33] <nocloud> does anybody know how i can change my repositories in the kynaptic package manager?
[08:34] <ttread> hoobustink, you could try this: http://netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO-5.html
[08:34] <robotgeek> nocloud: kynaptic?
[08:34] <robotgeek> nocloud: what version of kubuntu are you using?
[08:34] <nocloud> 5.04
[08:34] <nocloud> i'm trying to upgrade to 5.10
[08:35] <robotgeek> nocloud: you might prefer the breezy upgrade guide?
[08:35] <robotgeek> !breezy
[08:35] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:36] <nocloud> i am looking at that and it tells me to change the repositories
[08:36] <nocloud> that's where im stuck
[08:36] <robotgeek> nocloud: all you need to do is to "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and replace all occurences of hoary with breezy
[08:39] <nocloud> kate isn't giving me write access to save the changes....
[08:39] <robotgeek> nocloud: then use the command line, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:40] <eclub09> tai
[08:40] <nocloud> okay, i think i got it
[08:41] <nocloud> now, after that, what is the next step for me to do to upgrade?
[08:41] <_grigory> sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:41] <robotgeek> nocloud: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:41] <robotgeek> nocloud: i hope you have kubuntu-desktop installed
[08:42] <nocloud> i used " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop" command
[08:42] <nocloud> does that install the kubuntu desktop?
[08:42] <robotgeek> nocloud: nope, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[08:42] <_grigory> how can i reload K-Menu in kde? something like "killall gnome-panel" but that works with in kubuntu
[08:42] <robotgeek> nocloud: please pay close attention to the wiki page, don't just copy paste. read please
[08:42] <robotgeek> _grigory: killall kicker?
[08:43] <_grigory> oh... i tried "kde-panel", that didn't work :)
[08:43] <_grigory> thanks
[08:43] <haffe> Is there a cvsdistribution of ubuntu yet? That is, one that runs bleeding edge from cvs.
[08:43] <robotgeek> haffe: dapper doesn't break enough for you :P
[08:44] <haffe> robotgeek: No, dapper is quite stable on my machine.
[08:44] <robotgeek> haffe: lucky you, not on my machine
[08:44] <haffe> Only bad thing with dapper is that I can't play video fullscreen yet.
[08:44] <neoncode> so, how do I make iptables awnser a DNS request?
[08:45] <robotgeek> haffe: mplayer?
[08:46] <haffe> Can't seem to find that package i apt-get
[08:48] <hoobustink> in ubuntu where is the default rules saved for iptables?
[08:48] <andrei> adept and synaptic is telling me that the last version of firefox is 1.07... i know that is not true... maybe i need to add some repositories... witch ones ?
[08:48] <hoobustink> which file is loaded for iptables in iptables? /etc/where?
[08:48] <_grigory> haffe: that(fullscreen video) could also be because of the _not-so-new_ video drivers
[08:49] <haffe> Probably.
 i find you :)
[08:49] <haffe> I haven't had the energy to investigate since dapper will be released in a month or so.
[08:50] <_grigory> haffe: i had that problem, new ati drivers - and yay, works
[08:50] <haffe> Ok.
[08:50] <_grigory> Dany: good for you
[08:50] <hoobustink> i wanna do iptables-save but i dont know where to save this
[08:50] <haffe> _grigory: Ok, i have a 7800gtx, with newest drivers.
[08:50] <_grigory> andrei: try installing it manually
[08:50] <hoobustink> in fedora it is at /etc/sysconfig/iptables  what about in ubuntu where?
[08:51] <_grigory> haffe: well, it worked only after i used automatix to install all those driver\player\codec thingies
[08:51] <robotgeek> !automatix
[08:51] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[08:51] <_grigory> easyubuntu?
[08:52] <robotgeek> haffe: zoom = yes in ~/.mplayer/mplayer.conf
[08:52] <haffe> robotgeek: I can't install mplayer.
[08:52] <andrei> _grigory: you mean with a apt-get call ?
[08:54] <hoobustink> what ftp program to install is the most secure and can do virtual user accounts?
[08:54] <_grigory> andrei: here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%281.5%29%7C%28firefox%29 are the instructions
[08:57] <andrei> _grigory: thanx.... i'll do that .... but why isn't the latest version (of more programs not just firefox) listed in adept ? can i do something about it ?
[08:57] <hoobustink> how do i restart sshd in ubuntu? does it have like service ssh restart?
[08:58] <_grigory> andrei: i really don't know, i looked for 1.5 in the repos, couldn't find it, so i just did what that article said
[08:58] <hoobustink> iptables -A block -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
[08:58] <hoobustink> opps sorry
[08:59] <hoobustink> /etc/ssh# sshd
[08:59] <hoobustink> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[08:59] <hoobustink> :((
[09:01] <_grigory> can anyone suggest _goog_ begginer's manual to C\C++?
[09:02] <haffe> Try C++ direct by Steven Prata.
[09:02] <haffe> _grigory: Are you just begining programing?
[09:03] <_grigory> my most advanced program was winsock chat in VB
[09:03] <_grigory> so i know the basics
[09:03] <haffe> Ok, because C++ isn't a good beginers language.
[09:04] <_grigory> yeah, that's why i started off with... mm... QBasic, about 7 years ago :) then stopped for a while though
[09:04] <haffe> Ok.
[09:05] <_grigory> and by the way, is there a way to install .ini driver files made for windows in kubuntu?
[09:05] <haffe> Ummm, I don't think so.
[09:05] <haffe> The closest is ndiswrapper.
[09:05] <_grigory> a friend of mine have this asus wi-fi adapter, and is struggling installing it. one of the forum thread said to try that
[09:06] <_grigory> oh, ok, ill digg into it
[09:06] <haffe> How happy I am that I sprung for a Linksys with a rt2500chip.
[09:14] <hoobustink> how can my firefox or konqueror load a java program? can the plugin be installed using apt-get ?
[09:16] <robotgeek> !javadebs
[09:16] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell hoobustink about javadebs
[09:17] <robotgeek> hoobustink: download and install using "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[09:19] <_juha> checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld
[09:19] <_juha> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld
[09:19] <_juha> checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuoldld
[09:19] <_juha> checking for gcc... no
[09:19] <_juha> checking for cc... no
[09:19] <robotgeek> !paste
[09:19] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[09:19] <_juha> checking for cc... no
[09:19] <_juha> checking for cl... no
[09:19] <_juha> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:19] <_juha> WTF?
[09:19] <_juha> help me
[09:19] <robotgeek> _juha: don't paste here
[09:19] <_juha> sorry
[09:19] <robotgeek> _juha: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[09:21] <hoobustink> j2rel or j2sdk?? which one robotgeek ?
[09:22] <robotgeek> hoobustink: j2re should be enuf
[09:23] <Dasnipa`> sdk = developers kit
[09:30] <hoobustink> anyone knows where to load my iptables scripts command during boot?
[09:36] <Captainbraille> Hi, I'm trying to use "wine," but I keep getting this error "err:winecfg:load_drives GetVolumeInformation() for 'D:\' failed, setting serial to 0
[09:36] <Captainbraille> err:winecfg:load_drives GetVolumeInformation() for 'E:\' failed, setting serial to 0"    What does that mean?
[09:38] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[09:39] <_juha> i need ubuntuaddons.zip were i go and download it
[09:41] <rysiek|pl> talking about that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnofficialUbuntu504AddOnCD ?
[09:59] <_juha> rysiek|pl: link dosnt work
[10:03] <rysiek|pl> huh?
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> _juha: the add-on CD link?
[10:04] <_juha> yep
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> well, it works on my box
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> tried pinging?
[10:05] <_juha> Page not found
[10:06] <_juha> Now, there's an [WWW]  Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Add-On CD i klik this link
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> yup, it's a wikipage with info on the add-on cd
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> that's what I've found searching google for ubuntu addons
[10:12] <_juha> http://www.ubuntulite.org/ubuntu_lite1.1.iso whats this?
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> http://www.ubuntulite.org/
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> read that :)
[10:16] <alanon> How do I define default gpu in xorg.conf?
[10:21] <Captainbraille> Anyone know how to fix 'wine' so it can load cdrom drives and the jack library?
[10:22] <rysiek|pl> tried winetools?
[10:23] <Captainbraille> lemme check it's a package, eh?
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> nope, unfortunately not
[10:23] <rysiek|pl> gimme a sec
[10:23] <Captainbraille> oh, what is it? okay
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> that'll help you setup wine nice, easy and working (it even install... Internet Explorer for you :]  )
[10:26] <Captainbraille> lol, thanks rysiek|pl
[10:26] <rysiek|pl> no prob
[10:30] <neoncode> How do I assign a new IP to my computer? prefrably while keeping the old one? is that possible?
[10:31] <rysiek|pl> neoncode: let me guess: you actually have a laptop that you move from, say, work, to, say, home
[10:31] <rysiek|pl> :)
[10:32] <rysiek|pl> and you want to have your work-IP used while in work and your home-IP used while at home, right?
[10:32] <neoncode> rysiek|pl: No, i'm trying to get gamecube linux running and I carn't be bothered to hex-edit the gc-linux image to change the IP address it looks for the nbd share on.
[10:33] <rysiek|pl> oh
[10:34] <neoncode> :)
[10:34] <neoncode> so, how do I do it?
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> ok, anyways, that should be fairly easy ;)
[10:34] <neoncode> how?
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> edited any conf files yet?
[10:34] <rysiek|pl> just open Konsole
[10:35] <neoncode> rysiek|pl: I <3 xorg.conf.
[10:35] <neoncode> witch file do I need to edit?
[10:35] <rysiek|pl> great :) you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:35] <rysiek|pl> man interfaces will tell you a *lot*
[10:36] <neoncode> rysiek|pl: Do what do I change...
[10:36] <neoncode> *so what do I change sorry
[10:36] <rysiek|pl> basically you have to add a new stanza to that file - read the manpage and you should know what to do
[10:36] <neoncode> ok
[10:36] <grajkoo> rysiek | pl: na tym ircu marnuje sie Twoj potencja chopie.. :P ;)))
[10:37] <rysiek|pl> rofl, potencjal do czego? ciezko pracuje wlasnie nad stworzeniem sobie wypasionego usplasha :P
[10:38] <grajkoo> zatem milej i owocnej pracy ...
[10:38] <rysiek|pl> dzieki :)
[10:39] <grajkoo> rowniez wracam do dlubania w systemie..:P
[10:40] <rysiek|pl> heh
[10:41] <KaoticEvil> hey everyone :)
[10:45] <rysiek|pl> howdy
[10:48] <KaoticEvil> anyone know of an email client that can import messages and contacts from a PST file?
[10:50] <DjDarkman> hy ,everytime i put in a cd or a dvd in my drive ,a konqueror pops up ,it`s anoying ,how can i get rid of it?
[10:51] <tomas_> hi guys, it seems that there is some problem with my /etc/hosts or something. everytime i start dapper my internet doesnt start and i have to do a sudo dhclient eth0 manually :/
[10:51] <tomas_> it have worked before
[10:53] <rysiek|pl> DjDarkman: I have been looking for a way to disable that for a week now. :/
[10:53] <rysiek|pl> KaoticEvil: try KMail and Thunderbird
[10:54] <rysiek|pl> tomas_: it's rather the /etc/network/interfaces file
[10:54] <rysiek|pl> tomas_: are you using DHCP?
[10:54] <DjDarkman> grr i heard it`s a kubuntu issue ,i hate this media thing...
[10:54] <rysiek|pl> shit, obviously you do :] 
[10:54] <rysiek|pl> DjDarkman: yep, but it's in the config *somewhere*
[10:54] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: yes, and I have a router also. but it worked before
[10:55] <rysiek|pl> tomas_: ok, have you ever edited any config files before? :)
[10:55] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: off course :)
[10:55] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: im not a n00b ;)
[10:55] <KaoticEvil> rysiek|pl: neither of them can read a PST file :(
[10:56] <tomas_> DjDarkman: cant it be changed in system settings?
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> KaoticEvil: then try googling for a converter, or something like that
[10:56] <DjDarkman> tomas_: nope ,it`s not there
[10:56] <tomas_> DjDarkman: in service detection or whatever its called (i have it in swedish)
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> tomas_: it can - in Dapper, KDE3.5.x
[10:56] <tomas_> aha
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> I have got 5.10, KDE 3.4, so I'm on my own here
[10:56] <KaoticEvil> rysiek|pl: hmmm.. ok... ill give that a go
[10:57] <tomas_> :/
[10:57] <rysiek|pl> well, back to the dhcp prob
[10:57] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: yes, please
[10:57] <rysiek|pl> try editing /etc/network/interfaces
[10:57] <DjDarkman> service detection?
[10:57] <rysiek|pl> the man will tell you a lot bout that file (man  interfaces)
[10:57] <DjDarkman> hmmm i`ll give it a try
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> DjDarkman: It should be in System Settings, if you have KDE 3.5
[10:58] <DjDarkman> rysiek|pl: i have kde3.4.3
[10:58] <tomas_> auto eth0
[10:58] <tomas_> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:58] <tomas_> shouldnt that work :/
[10:58] <tomas_> =?
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> it should :/
[10:58] <tomas_> yes
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> ok, try ifconfig
[10:58] <tomas_> moki
[10:59] <tomas_> ifconfig what?
[10:59] <tomas_> i have used it for statically setting ip
[10:59] <DjDarkman> i tried kde3.5.1 a few weaks ago ,but it was very unstable and consumed too much resources
[10:59] <tomas_> but nothing else
[10:59] <tomas_> DjDarkman: dapper works like a charm, almost :p
[10:59] <rysiek|pl> just ifconfig (will write out your network interfaces settings)
[10:59] <rysiek|pl> gimme a sec
[10:59] <DjDarkman> tomas_: maybe i`ll try dapper via vmware :D
[11:00] <tomas_> yes i know but what good will that do=?
[11:00] <tomas_> DjDarkman: ;)
[11:00] <DjDarkman> tomas_: the last time i wanted to ugrade to dapper ,i had to reinstall everything because of that
[11:00] <DjDarkman> and i din`t migrate to ubuntu ,to always reinstall
[11:01] <tomas_> DjDarkman: its better to do a fresh install, i have myself done the misstake of upgrading from breezy
[11:01] <DjDarkman> tomas_: i think it should upgrade nicely if the stable dapper will be out
[11:01] <tomas_> DjDarkman: hopefully
[11:02] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: maybe this is a bug
[11:02] <rysiek|pl> ok, I'm back
[11:02] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: i could just create a file that has dhclient eth0 in it :/ and run it at boot time
[11:02] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: but that wouldn't be a solution :p
[11:02] <rysiek|pl> no, definetely not :)
[11:02] <DjDarkman> so u say ,i`ll haveto w8 till dapper to kill that popup konqueror?
[11:03] <rysiek|pl> tomas_: execute ifconfig and tell me, if there is a section for eth0 in it
[11:03] <rysiek|pl> DjDarkman: maybe you'll get lucky and find the bloody config file
[11:03] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: yes it is, i have a internet connect, i used sudo dhclient eth0 to get it up
[11:04] <rysiek|pl> ah, right :] 
[11:04] <rysiek|pl> ok, do: /etc/init.d/ networking restart
[11:04] <rysiek|pl> and if something goes wrong - sudo dhclient eth0
[11:04] <tomas_> aha :p
[11:05] <tomas_> it complains about something :p
[11:05] <tomas_> thank you :)
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> but immidiately after networking restart - do ifconfig
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> and see if your eth0 got configured by itself ;)
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> ?
[11:05] <tomas_> thanks, i will look at it
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> tomas_: it complains about what? :)
[11:05] <tomas_> a line
[11:05] <tomas_> which i will delete
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> which line :)
[11:06] <tomas_> no important just my second network card that i dont use
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> wait
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> sometimes it's the small things
[11:06] <tomas_> no
[11:06] <tomas_> it was no important, believe me :)
[11:06] <tomas_> im gonna do a reboot now
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> ok, have it your way :)
[11:06] <tomas_> see ya
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> wait
[11:06] <tomas_> thank you :)
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> why reboot?
[11:06] <tomas_> cause i want too :P
[11:06] <tomas_> see ya soon :P
[11:06] <tomas_> thanks
[11:06] <tomas_> bye
[11:07] <rysiek|pl> whatever :)
[11:07] <rysiek|pl> cu
[11:07] <rysiek|pl> I just don't get that guy - why reboot when /etc/init.d/networking will give him the same effect?..
[11:13] <tomas_> rysiek|pl: guess what, it works ;)
[11:14] <rysiek|pl> yay  :)
[11:14] <tomas_> thanks :)
[11:14] <rysiek|pl> next time - don't reboot, just do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:15] <rysiek|pl> it'll do exactly the same thing for the network interfaces :)
[11:15] <tomas_> i know i know and i did, i just wanted to check
[11:15] <rysiek|pl> :)
[11:15] <tomas_> btw, do you know anything about vloopback?
[11:15] <rysiek|pl> what's "vloopback"?
[11:16] <tomas_> :p
[11:16] <tomas_> you know amsn and kopete?
[11:16] <rysiek|pl> I use kopete a bit
[11:16] <tomas_> they only work with v4l devices and my firewire camcorder isnt one.
[11:16] <tomas_> vloopback should be able to take a firewire stream and turn it into a v4lstream from what i have read
[11:17] <rysiek|pl> that's something I haven't got a slightest notion of idea about :)
[11:17] <tomas_> no one seems to :/
[11:17] <tomas_> anyway
[11:17] <tomas_> got to do some work
[11:17] <tomas_> take care
[11:17] <tomas_> bye
[11:19] <rysiek|pl> cu
[11:39] <rysiek|pl> be right back
[11:47] <freeflying> http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?p=55034#55034
[11:48] <rysiek|pl> I'm back
[12:23] <rysiek|pl> anyone knows, why the Redmond ksplash engine won't place the Action Text where I set it? (Action Text Position = 20,20
[12:23] <rysiek|pl> )
[12:23] <rysiek|pl> ?
[12:26] <rysiek|pl> ok, nevermind, found the culprit
[12:43] <Dany> who can help me with ndiswrapper &
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Dany: !ndiswrapper
[12:44] <Hobbsee> works pretty well
 ^(
[12:44] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper
[12:44] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Dany: work through that guide, and tell us where it stops working :D
  i have asus wl 161 wriles adapter
 driver on asus.com
[12:45] <Dany> not support kubuntu
[12:46] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[12:46] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
 yes
 ndiswrapper work correct
[12:47] <Dany> but devise
[12:47] <Hobbsee> Dany: right, so what's your question then?
  why devise dont work &
[12:49] <Dany> sorry fommy english
[12:50] <Hobbsee> so...ndiswrapper works, yet the device doesnt?
[12:50] <Dany> yen
[12:51] <Dany> yes
[12:51] <Dany> ndiswrapper install inf file
[12:51] <rysiek|pl> brb
[12:51] <nuky> does anyone know what this error means when trying to mount an external USB drive? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/584852 i've formatted it previously in windows using NTFS.
[12:52] <Hobbsee> nuky: paste your /etc/fstab to pastebin?
[12:53] <Hobbsee> i have a problem with kubuntu dapper - with user 1, networking works before i log into kdm, yet stops somewhere during the login splash screen.  with user 2, following the same steps, this does not occur.  Does anyone know which files in ~/ would be effecting this?  Or should I ditch the entire profile, and start again?
[12:53] <ronaldson40> how do i use my Irda port on my laptop
[12:54] <ronaldson40> is there a GUI package for it
[12:54] <nuky> this is my /etc/fstab: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/584859
[12:55] <ronaldson40> And I have a toshiba satellite pro M30
[12:55] <nuky> when i do it through the terminal using "mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usbext" it mounts but i can't access it, even as root.. so i tried using the gui.. and i got the error message i showed before
[12:56] <paines> hi
[12:56] <ronaldson40> So if i add this line will it work for me
[12:57] <Hobbsee> nuky: is the sdb1 really ext2?
[12:57] <ronaldson40> where can i get a guide on fstab
[12:57] <nuky> yes.. i think so..
[12:57] <Hobbsee> ronaldson40: man fstab
[12:57] <ronaldson40> anyway  where is the gui for Irda
[12:58] <Hobbsee> nuky: i'd try checking man fstab to see that you got the syntax for the options correct...
[12:58] <ronaldson40> On my windows I had a panel to enable the irda port
[12:58] <Hobbsee> ronaldson40: apt-cache search irda
[12:58] <nuky> thanks, i'll check it now
[01:00] <ronaldson40> This is wat i am getting
[01:00] <ronaldson40> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/584866
[01:01] <ronaldson40> so wat do i do
[01:22] <nuky> i've mounted my external usb drive but i can't access it as user. is the command to change the permissions, "sudo chmod 775 /mnt/usbext"? that doesn't seem to work..
[01:31] <alexandre> Hi guys!
[01:33] <alexandre> I'm new to Kubuntu (I've been using plain Ubuntu until now). I'm trying to set up kdm to show a user list, so they can simply click on their picture to login. Does anybody know how to do that? I knew how to do it with gdm.
[01:34] <alexandre> Hello? Is anybody here?
[01:35] <paines> yes
[01:35] <paines> be patient
[02:08] <oskari> hello everybody
[02:36] <LeeJunFan> anyone know of a battery charge graphing util for ACPI (not APM)? I think I have a misbehaving battery that instantly loses charge after a few mins use.
[02:37] <paines> LeeJunFan, ksensors
[02:37] <LeeJunFan> paines: thanks.
[02:39] <paines> isn't lee jun fan the name of the master of the green sword in the movie crouching tiger hidden dragon ?
[02:42] <marcez> hi all
[02:42] <marcez> how can i restart net?
[02:42] <marcez> i need a shell command
[02:44] <paines> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:44] <marcez> thanks
[02:45] <LeeJunFan> paines: I dunno about that, if it is I didn't catch it. It's actually the birth name of Bruce Lee.
[02:46] <paines> LeeJunFan, ic.
[02:52] <_pako> c' qualche italiano che puo' aiutarmi?
[02:54] <maenty> hi, all
[02:54] <ryanakca> !it
[02:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:55] <maenty> I just finished installing Kubuntu.. however, when it loads the OS, no picture is sent to monitor anymore
[02:55] <maenty> Probably when it starts X.
[02:56] <Olegs> guys do you know when licq 1.3.2 will be available for Kubuntu?
[02:56] <ryanakca> ever since I updated xserver-xorg-core, I only have 2 resolution choices... 640x680 and 800x600. How do I get my original 1240x768. and yes, I have run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I'm on dapper, btw
[02:57] <pulver> Olegs: im running it now so it must be in the dapper repos
[02:57] <Olegs> hm
[02:57] <ryanakca> Olegs: to dapper or breezy?
[02:57] <Olegs> breezy
[02:57] <ryanakca> Olegs: it will never be added...
[02:57] <Olegs> :(
[02:57] <Olegs> too bad
[02:57] <Olegs> dapper is no use for me yet
[02:57] <ryanakca> Olegs: the packages in a stable version of ubuntu/kubuntu are frozen meaning no upgrades will be added
[02:58] <Olegs> ryanakca: can I add from dapper repos?
[02:58] <Olegs> to breezy?
[02:58] <ryanakca> Olegs: I dont think so...
[02:58] <bla|patrick> hi
[02:58] <ryanakca> Olegs: can you compile from source?
[02:59] <bla|patrick> good topic... need a howto that explains how to compile a driver for (k)ubuntu
[02:59] <marcez> that command don't work very well
[02:59] <marcez> i had to reboot
[03:00] <Olegs> ryanakca: I will try if there will be no deb package
[03:00] <Olegs> because it requires certain libs that are not avalable in stable breezy as well.
[03:00] <bla|patrick> ok... i need a general how to that explains how to compile :|
[03:00] <bla|patrick> and 2nd question.
[03:00] <bla|patrick> i have a surce driver for my wifi usb stick
[03:01] <bla|patrick> do i need kernelmodules for this driver?
[03:01] <ateves> hi, i have a question concerning the kubuntu install CD. in ubuntu, the package ndiswrapper-utils is part of the CD. i can only go online via WLAN, so i cannot download it once kubuntu is installed. so i have to know if it is part of the CD.
[03:02] <bla|patrick> ...
[03:02] <bla|patrick> :'(
[03:03] <bla|patrick> help :|
[03:06] <ryanakca> Olegs: why dont you just update to dapper?
[03:06] <ryanakca> Olegs: if you want it THAT bad....
[03:06] <Olegs> dapper is beta stage now
[03:06] <Olegs> AFAIK . and according  to changelog it has no i18n sypport.
[03:06] <ryanakca> Olegs: so... you could test it...
[03:07] <ryanakca> Olegs: ahh... meh... you could also wait a month or two till dapper is released
[03:07] <Olegs> ryanakca: I'm testing too many things already - need something working, do I :)
[03:07] <Olegs> ryanakca: sure, yes.
[03:07] <ryanakca> ever since I updated xserver-xorg-core, I only have 2 resolution choices... 640x680 and 800x600. How do I get my original 1240x768. and yes, I have run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I'm on dapper, btw
[03:10] <pradeepto> Riddell: around?
[03:11] <ryanakca> yes... I was about to ask that too
[03:11] <ryanakca> for some reason the adept-updater wants to remove kubuntu-desktop, and he's the maintainer...
[03:12] <pradeepto> ryanakca: heh , off all things kubuntu-desktop???
[03:13] <ryanakca> yes... and I want to keep kubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <pulver> ryanakca, i may be wrong about this, but doesn't it want for some pkg to remove an openoffice dependancy (+openoffice), and openoffice is in the kubuntu-desktop meta-pkg
[03:26] <ryanakca> ahh... meh... I just wont upgrade.... I'll wait for someone to fix the repositories...
[03:28] <pulver> hehe yeah..
[03:28] <pulver> thats what i did anyway, let it remove openoffice and reinstalled in afterwards, may be some better way though, im pretty new at this
[03:32] <bufalo_1973> hello
[03:32] <maenty> Hi, all! Could someone help me with Xorg-porblem?
[03:33] <bufalo_1973> I have a problem with my mouse (well, trackball): middle clicking does nothing
[03:33] <maenty> Any experts around?
[03:33] <ryanakca> maenty: Help us help you by telling us your question :)
[03:33] <maenty> ryanakca: The question is: I keep getting "No Signal" after it starts the X
[03:34] <maenty> ryanakca: I have already edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put the right refresh rates there, no help
[03:34] <ryanakca> maenty: I'm not expert in X, but I'll try to help you...
[03:34] <maenty> ryanakca: I have been told that nofs might help, but I don't know how to use nofs
[03:34] <ryanakca> try running this: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:35] <maenty> I just finished installing Kubuntu, the first time I tried to load it did that already
[03:36] <maenty> btw, it never asked me root password yet.. sudo asks pw, right?
[03:36] <maenty> I mean I haven't typed in root password anywhere
[03:37] <ryanakca> maenty: odd... sorry... I dunno....
[03:37] <maenty> I tried startx -fs nofs
[03:37] <maenty> didn't help
[03:38] <ryanakca> wait... no
[03:38] <ryanakca> no no no... I'm still half asleep
[03:38] <maenty> I don't know how to use that -nofs thing
[03:38] <ryanakca> sudo asks you for your user password
[03:38] <maenty> ah.. ok
[03:38] <ryanakca> you will never be asked for a root password because there is none, as a security feature....
[03:38] <maenty> I thought sudo is a command where you can run a command as root
[03:38] <ryanakca> it is
[03:39] <ryanakca> you just put in your normal password
[03:39] <maenty> in ubuntu/kubuntu it's different? alright
[03:39] <maenty> roger that
[03:39] <ronaldson40> nuky are u there
[03:40] <maenty> ryanakca: when i type this dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, will it ask me to give in some parameters?
[03:40] <ryanakca> yes
[03:40] <ryanakca> maenty: open konsole
[03:40] <ronaldson40> or could someone help me with my SD card reader
[03:40] <ryanakca> maenty: then type this in: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:40] <maenty> ryanakca: I'm currently in Windows XP, I have to boot back to linux
[03:40] <ryanakca> maenty: it'll ask for a password. type in the password you used to log in
[03:41] <ryanakca> ok... I'll explain it to you first
[03:41] <ronaldson40> Anybody with a toshiba laptop with SD card reader..?
[03:41] <ryanakca> it'll look as if the password isnt being typed in, if your used to windows, but it is.... the space after "Password:" is supposed to remain blank, even while you type your password
[03:42] <ryanakca> then hit enter, and it'll connect you.
[03:42] <ryanakca> maenty: mind if I msg you?
[03:43] <maenty> okay, so it's same as when I connect to a linux shell with putty, the *s never show
[03:43] <ryanakca> yes
[03:43] <maenty> ryanakca: no, I'm very thankful for your help, msg me plese
[03:44] <ronaldson40> Anybody with knowledge of SD card config
[03:47] <rysiek|pl> ronaldson40: what do you need?
[03:49] <ronaldson40> hi
[03:49] <ronaldson40> See i have a toshiba
[03:49] <rysiek|pl> aye
[03:49] <ronaldson40> when i put in the SD card into the slot
[03:49] <ronaldson40> it does not detect anythin
[03:50] <rysiek|pl> first question: do you have Windows installed on that box too?
[03:50] <ronaldson40> yes
[03:50] <ronaldson40> why
[03:50] <rysiek|pl> and it detects it ok?
[03:51] <ronaldson40> yes in windows it works
[03:51] <rysiek|pl> (just making sure it's not a hardware problem)
[03:51] <ronaldson40> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/584866
[03:51] <rysiek|pl> ok, let's start the debugging then ;)
[03:51] <ronaldson40> this is my fstab
[03:51] <ronaldson40> sorry ignore that
[03:51] <rysiek|pl> huh?
[03:51] <ronaldson40> thats the wrong paste
[03:52] <rysiek|pl> yep, it is :)
[03:52] <rysiek|pl> we don't need ftsab at the moment
[03:52] <ronaldson40> k
[03:52] <rysiek|pl> hotplug subsystem should detect it and mount it, without it being included in fstab
[03:53] <ronaldson40> when i insert the card into the slot it does not detect it
[03:53] <rysiek|pl> so: remove the SD card if it's inside, then do (in console): sudo dmesg -c
[03:53] <rysiek|pl> (that'll clean-up all the debug messages, so that next time we get only those card-related)
[03:54] <ronaldson40> do u want to see it or its ok
[03:54] <rysiek|pl> no, not now
[03:54] <rysiek|pl> just ignore the output
[03:54] <ronaldson40> k
[03:54] <rysiek|pl> ok, now insert the card
[03:55] <rysiek|pl> wait a few seconds
[03:55] <rysiek|pl> and: sudo dmesg
[03:55] <rysiek|pl> (or dmesg without sudo - it should work too, actually)
[03:55] <ronaldson40> yah did that
[03:55] <rysiek|pl> and past the output in pastebin
[03:55] <ronaldson40> nothin is showing ....
[03:55] <rysiek|pl> hmmm
[03:55] <ronaldson40> its just goin to the next prompt
[03:56] <rysiek|pl> ok, let's tru something else then
[03:56] <ronaldson40> k
[03:56] <rysiek|pl> ls -l /dev/sd*
[03:56] <rysiek|pl> wait
[03:56] <rysiek|pl> wrong :)
[03:56] <ronaldson40> k
[03:56] <rysiek|pl> ls -l /dev/ | grep sd
[03:57] <rysiek|pl> any sda's or sdb's or sdc's or sdd's in output?
[03:57] <_asmerkin> a question. Do you know a graphical interface for Wine?
[03:57] <_asmerkin> Kde interface
[03:58] <ronaldson40> one sec
[03:59] <rysiek|pl> _asmerkin: never heard of anything like that, but try winetools
[03:59] <rysiek|pl> _asmerkin: http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/
[04:00] <ronaldson40> rysiek|pl
[04:00] <ronaldson40> i will paste it??
[04:00] <ronaldson40> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/585054
[04:00] <ronaldson40> check this link
[04:01] <rysiek|pl> ok, checking
[04:01] <rysiek|pl> I'm looking into it, and you might want to check these out:
[04:01] <rysiek|pl> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75678.html
[04:01] <rysiek|pl> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23554.html
[04:02] <rysiek|pl> ok, great, so we have the bastard detected - or at least so it looks like
[04:02] <rysiek|pl> ronaldson40: pastebin me your fstab now, if you can
[04:03] <ronaldson40> k
[04:04] <ronaldson40> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/585065
[04:05] <rysiek|pl> smashing :)
[04:06] <rysiek|pl> now do from console:
[04:06] <ronaldson40> k
[04:06] <rysiek|pl> sudo mkdir /media/sd_card
[04:06] <rysiek|pl> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sd_card
[04:06] <ronaldson40> k done
[04:06] <rysiek|pl> these should give no output
[04:07] <ronaldson40> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:07] <rysiek|pl> mounted?
[04:07] <rysiek|pl> aa
[04:07] <maenty> Could anyone help me and tell what is nofs and how to enable it?
[04:07] <ronaldson40> I am gettin this
[04:07] <rysiek|pl> thought so
[04:07] <rysiek|pl> gimme a sec
[04:07] <maenty> nofs apparently should help me to start X without having "no signal" in the screen.
[04:08] <maenty> all refresh rates and other stuff is ok, so it has to be this nofs thing
[04:08] <rysiek|pl> ronaldson40: try: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sd_card
[04:11] <ronaldson40> k
[04:11] <ronaldson40> root@RON:~# sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sd_card
[04:11] <ronaldson40> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /media/sd_card busy
[04:11] <ronaldson40> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /media/sda1
[04:11] <rysiek|pl> d'oh. ok, not bad :)
[04:11] <rysiek|pl> now, do you remember what files you had on this sd?
[04:12] <rysiek|pl> (so that we know that we've mounted the right device ;) )
[04:13] <ronaldson40> yes
[04:13] <rysiek|pl> ok, so now: sudo ls -l /media/sd_card/
[04:14] <rysiek|pl> and tell me, if these are the right files ;)
[04:14] <ronaldson40> sda1 is my ntfs EXt HDD
[04:14] <ronaldson40> i am still grtting the same thing
[04:15] <Ras420> hello, i am running kubuntu 5.10, and i am trying to install wine, (also i just installed fresh couple hours ago) so i used the apt-get command to install gcc, but i keep getting this error" configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" i am also very new to debian type systems
[04:15] <rysiek|pl> ronaldson40: what thing? and why didn't you tell me you know what sda1 is? :] 
[04:16] <ronaldson40> sorry
[04:18] <rysiek|pl> ronaldson40: what is the "thing" you're getting?
[04:20] <HymnToLife> Ras420> why the hell do you want to install gcc ?
[04:20] <HymnToLife> it has nothing to do with wine
[04:20] <Ras420> to compile
[04:20] <HymnToLife> you don't need to
[04:20] <HymnToLife> there are binary packages of wine around
[04:20] <rysiek|pl> gimme a sec, I'll give you guys the repos ;)
[04:21] <rysiek|pl> # wine repos
[04:21] <rysiek|pl> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[04:21] <Ras420> HymnToLife: yeah, i just like to compile from source
[04:21] <HymnToLife> Ras420> really ?
[04:21] <rysiek|pl> the gentoo way :)
[04:21] <HymnToLife> it's lots of hassle for nothing :/
[04:22] <HymnToLife> yeah, get gentoo then lol
[04:22] <HymnToLife> and I think if you "like to compile", you would have build-essential instlled ;)
[04:23] <rysiek|pl> HymnToLife: well, the hassle sometimes pays - e.g. I *need* to compile clamav, for example (the repo's binary is always outdated)
[04:23] <HymnToLife> rysiek|pl> yeh but not always
[04:23] <HymnToLife> especially for beginners ;)
[04:24] <rysiek|pl> true... true...
[04:28] <Ras420> HymnToLife: im a former freebsd user, and it just seemed like everything worked better when it is compiled from source, so everything is native to the system, i could be completely wrong, but thats what i am used to doing
[04:28] <HymnToLife> well
[04:28] <HymnToLife> if you still want to compile from source
[04:29] <HymnToLife> run sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:29] <HymnToLife> to get rid of that error ;)
[04:29] <Ras420> ok
[04:29] <HymnToLife> and also sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[04:29] <HymnToLife> to install all the headers and libraries needed for compiling
[04:30] <Ras420> oh
[04:31] <rysiek|pl> ok, gonna play some nasty quake or freeciv, cu all later :)
[04:31] <Ras420> E: Unable to find a source package for wine
[04:32] <rysiek|pl> Ras420:
[04:32] <rysiek|pl> add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[04:32] <rysiek|pl> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[04:32] <rysiek|pl> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[04:33] <brodel> is there a way for meto turn off the trash?  I am never going to use it.
[04:33] <rysiek|pl> (I think its "source/" but you better check it on sourceforge)
[04:33] <rysiek|pl> brodel: use Shift+Del every time ;)
[04:33] <rysiek|pl> gotago, cu all
[04:33] <ninHer> hi all
[04:34] <brodel> Yeah, I know that, bu tI was hoping I could just hit delete.
[04:34] <brodel> or do it via the mouse
[04:34] <brodel> if there was a delete option on the mouse menu that'd work fine.
[04:36] <Ras420> yup, that was correct url
[04:38] <Ras420> well, thanx for the help
[04:46] <_mike> hey guys i just updated to dapper... and now when i restart i never get into a graphical interface... im always stuck at the command prompt... how do i fix this?
[04:47] <shawkins> updating to dapper is not recommended for production environemtns..
[04:47] <shawkins> as far as fixing it, consider typing startx in the command line
[04:47] <_mike> i did i got some x11 error
[04:48] <shawkins> I've had reports of people not upgrading well to dapper, so this may not work
[04:48] <shawkins> ok, does it have internet access? or is it dial-up
[04:48] <_mike> has internet
[04:48] <shawkins> ok, you updated to dapper through changing the sources or?
[04:49] <_mike> sources
[04:49] <_mike> apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:50] <shawkins> ok, sweet, I had that same problem with my  currrent computer, however, I just did an update, so if you would, type 'sudo apt-get update' and then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[04:50] <shawkins> if that doesn't work I really couldn't say what to do
[04:50] <shawkins> but I just did that not more then 5 minutes ago
[04:50] <shawkins> and it fixed it fine
[04:50] <shawkins> however, before doing it, make sure it doesn't remove kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-deskto
[04:51] <shawkins> as it tried doing that to me, if it does try to do so just do a normal upgrade
[04:51] <_mike> ok im doing it now
[04:52] <_mike> i hope this works
[04:52] <shawkins> I do too, because I don't know how to fix it otherwise
[04:52] <shawkins> of course.. if you did do an update not to long ago, it could have already taken out your ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[04:53] <shawkins> so... once its done updating tell me, we'll see about the two *-desktops
[04:53] <_mike> when its done where woulkd i see that
[04:54] <_mike> and it just finished
[04:54] <shawkins> if you have ubuntu, type 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' if kubuntu, 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[04:54] <shawkins> adding sudo in front of those
[04:55] <_mike> damn
[04:55] <_mike> it says i need to get 226mb of archives
[04:55] <_mike> i guess i didnt have it>?
[04:56] <shawkins> yeah, that'd be it
[04:56] <shawkins> do you have dsl or any other highspeed?
[04:56] <_mike> cable
[04:56] <grumy> hallu
[04:56] <shawkins> ok, then it shouldn't take to long, I have dsl and it only took 5 minutes or so
[04:56] <shawkins> hello grumy
[04:57] <grumy> hi shawkins
[04:57] <_mike> y would it remove the desktop
[04:57] <shawkins> its a break in dapper
[04:57] <grumy> how do u do?
[04:57] <shawkins> it happens every so often, thats why its not made for production yet, if you still wish to use dapper, just be careful when updating
[04:57] <shawkins> grumy: pretty good... about to go to work :) all kinds of fun
[04:57] <grumy> i wanna ask sumthing
[04:58] <shawkins> whats that?
[04:58] <grumy> how to install yahoo messenger
[04:58] <_mike> once the final version is out...will i be able to update it through the beta dapper no probleM?
[04:58] <pussfeller> i should be able to watch vids stored on a remote samba resource thru a wireless connection, right
[04:58] <pussfeller> thats not that much thruput
[04:59] <pussfeller> but xine is choppy
[04:59] <shawkins> I don't know if there is a yahoo messenger for linux, however, use gaim or kopete depending of in you have kubuntu or ubuntu, take some getting used to, but not to hard
[05:00] <grumy> i know
[05:00] <grumy> im used it rite now
[05:00] <grumy> but some features that gaim not support
[05:00] <_mike> shawkins: and what do u prefer gnome or kde and y?
[05:00] <shawkins> yes _mike, it'll be a simple apt-get dist-upgrade, I do it every so often to get the latest updates, every few days
[05:01] <shawkins> _mike kde by far, I love all of its programs it has intergrated with it, Allows me to do almost anything I want, its own browser, chat programs, development programs, everything I need
[05:01] <shawkins> grumy may I ask what it doesn't support?
[05:02] <grumy> 1. windows user cannot send file
[05:02] <pussfeller> the av stuff related to IM progs is iffy at this point in linux
[05:02] <_mike> and did i lose all my files in the update?,,, just curious
[05:02] <shawkins> grumy I would try kopete, but I don't know anything else to try
[05:02] <_mike> like my mp3s and documents... i also had stuff on my desktop
[05:02] <shawkins> _mike you should be fine, doing updates only updates the system, nothing more, I gotta go
[05:02] <shawkins> they should all be there
[05:02] <_mike> ok thanks
[05:02] <_mike> take care
[05:27] <oskari> who use kaffeine or xmms
[05:31] <k-mandla> HI!
[05:34] <Kr4t05> Well, I just completely removed GNOME
[05:34] <Kr4t05> Yay 4 me.
[05:38] <noteventime> 'ello
[05:38] <k-mandla> howdy
[05:38] <noteventime> I have a PDF file i want to OCR with kooka, Any ideas how?
[05:43] <eidolon> hey folks, what's the 'current tech' as far as what to use for a media player - i'd like to view MOV's and MPG's.. and potentially WMF (using appropriate DLL's).  last time i set this up i used mplayer, but that was about a year ago.  suggestions?
[05:44] <noteventime> kaffeine
[05:44] <noteventime> is the best KDE choice
[05:44] <noteventime> Although MPlayer is still good
[05:45] <eidolon> kaffeine was crashing like crazy last time i tried it.
[05:45] <Kr4t05> I use XMMS, simply because I
[05:45] <Kr4t05> am used to Winamp
[05:45] <eidolon> uhh.  not for MOV and MPEGS you don't, do you?
[05:46] <Kr4t05> But, XMMS is audio only
[05:46] <Kr4t05> I missed that part of your question.
[05:46] <Kr4t05> :P
[05:46] <eidolon> right, that has very little to do with the question i asked, but thanks for playing :)
[05:46] <Kr4t05> sorry
[05:47] <noteventime> XMMS is nice although I like using Kaffeine and amaroK better
[05:47] <eidolon> amarok is fantastic, but is being twitchy for me :(
[05:47] <noteventime> aidolon: How?
[05:47] <eidolon> mayube because i'm running amarok with the artsd plugin... (cuz for some reason that's the only way i could get MP3's working)
[05:48] <eidolon> noteventime: lockups.  stop playing.  having to use xkill to kill the process - hitting the 'play' button and nothing happening, etc.
[05:48] <eidolon> amarok IMHO is very poor at reporting when it has problems :(
[05:48] <noteventime> :) try running it through the conole
[05:48] <noteventime> and read the output
[05:48] <eidolon> welll, lets see.
[05:48] <eidolon> *tries*
[05:49] <noteventime> hejsan :D
[05:49] <eidolon> working cleanly now, figures.
[05:49] <eidolon> anyway, lemme try kaffeine on an mov file.
[05:50] <noteventime> :|, use it and hope it crashes :P
[05:50] <noteventime> By that i mean amaroK
[05:50] <eidolon> hee :)
[05:50] <eidolon> now, on to kafeine :)
[05:53] <larsivi> is anyone using kmail/kpgp?
[05:53] <eidolon> in kaffeine, i do "open url"
[05:53] <eidolon> and type "http://www.dlmag.com/videos/CES2006-Dualcor-Interview-480-h264.mov"  (the mov i want to view)
[05:53] <eidolon> and get "No URI handler implemented for... (that url)"
[05:53] <eidolon> wtf?
[05:54] <eidolon> i use kmail.
[05:54] <larsivi> eidolon: but do encrypt/decrypt openpgp messages?
[05:54] <eidolon> nope.
[06:01] <nxv__> has anybody here an asus mypal running with synce and can help me getting it running too?
[06:06] <k-mandla> is anyone able to listen to the streaming audio at yahoo music/launchcast?
[06:18] <rysiek|pl> hi again
[06:27] <k-mandla> has anyone gotten kubuntu stickers from that site in germany?
[06:32] <maenty> ryanakca:
[06:32] <rysiek|pl> noteventime, got something for you: http://rysiek.ath.cx/stuff/usplash_test_640x480_matrix.tar.bz2
[06:32] <maenty> hi ryanakca, thanks for trying to help earlier. I did get it finally to work by re-installing drivers. I am not allowed to send private messages
[06:33] <rysiek|pl> (if you're still interested in creating your own usplash theme, that is ;) )
[06:33] <maenty> ryanakca: 16:55 [freenode]  -!- Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer.
[06:33] <rysiek|pl> maenty: register with freenode
[06:33] <rysiek|pl> whois maenty
[06:33] <rysiek|pl> argh :)
[06:33] <maenty> ryanakca: I wrote you many messages while you were helping me, but I later noticed the status window and realised that you didn't get any of my messages
[06:45] <neoncode> running ksysgaurd as root(under kdesu) is safe right?
[06:47] <rysiek|pl> neoncode: I suppose it is, as long as you don't start to mess things up manually
[06:48] <rysiek|pl> like sending manually some strange signals to, say, init ;)
[06:48] <neoncode> rysiek|pl: The only reason i'm running it like that is that so I can kill applications. I don't know how to do it via the CLI.
[06:49] <rysiek|pl> well, as for the CLI:
[06:49] <rysiek|pl> ps aux | grep name_of_the_program
[06:49] <rysiek|pl> and then kill process_id
[06:49] <rysiek|pl> or kill -9 process_id
[06:49] <rysiek|pl> man kill - I would suggest reading this
[06:50] <neoncode> rysiek|pl: I haven't gotten the hang of pipes yet. and i'm still not sure what grep even does?...
[06:50] <rysiek|pl> and if you need to kill the programs, you can use ksudo ksysguard, off course, but just saying you have to be careful *what* you kill
[06:50] <rysiek|pl> noencode: man grep? :)
[06:50] <rysiek|pl> grep filters the input
[06:51] <rysiek|pl> grep word - will give you all the lines from input, that contain the word
[06:51] <rysiek|pl> so ps aux | grep app_name will give you information on all processes that have a anme "app_name" :)
[06:52] <neoncode> rysiek|pl: I'm playing with linux on my gamecube again, i'm running a nbd server apparently and when I launch it from konsole it returns me to the command prompt so I don't know how to stop it. Thus ksysgarud
[06:52] <rysiek|pl> nbd server? gimme a sec :)
[06:53] <rysiek|pl> like, Network Block Device?
[06:53] <rysiek|pl> tried /etc/init.d/nbd start and /etc/init.d/nbd stop?
[06:54] <rysiek|pl> (or was it /etc/init.d/nbdd?..)
[06:54] <neoncode> rysiek|pl: I dunno, it's just mentioned in the gc-linux guide...
[06:54] <noteventime> rysiek|pl: Hows usplash going?
[06:55] <neoncode> Oh and is it normal to have about 10GB more free diskspace after emptying my trash? (on my computer, duh)
[06:55] <rysiek|pl> noencode: ls -l /etc/init.d | grep nbd
[06:55] <rysiek|pl> and paste the output here
[06:56] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: up-and-running, with my new slick usplash :)
[06:56] <noteventime> Nice
[06:56] <noteventime> how?
[06:56] <rysiek|pl> I've got something for you
[06:56] <noteventime> ok :)
[06:56] <rysiek|pl> http://rysiek.ath.cx/stuff/usplash_test_640x480_matrix.tar.bz2
[06:56] <noteventime> :D ok
[06:57] <neoncode> rysiek|pl: That command gives me nothing...
[06:57] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: there is/was a bug in usplash scripts, if you want it to run on any other mode than the standard one, just search google for +USplash +vesafb.ko +insmod +error
[06:57] <rysiek|pl> it's in the bugzilla
[06:57] <rysiek|pl> noencode: ok, so it's not there
[06:57] <rysiek|pl> try: man nbd
[06:58] <rysiek|pl> maybe you'll find some info there
[06:58] <noteventime> :D o
[06:58] <noteventime> k
[07:00] <neoncode> How can I tell what programs are useing witch ports?
[07:01] <rysiek|pl> hmmm... there was a way... look into /etc/services
[07:01] <rysiek|pl> !services
[07:01] <ubotu> I heard services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/
[07:11] <ryanakca> maenty: I see
[07:12] <ryanakca> maenty go /msg NICKSERV REGISTER <password>
[07:12] <ryanakca> maenty: then you'll be able to /msg
[07:15] <Canard_1> When you use the file rollerand wish to extract a file to directory that you need root to write to, how do you do it?
[07:15] <rysiek|pl> ryanakca: off course you realise how hilarious what you've just said was? :)
[07:16] <ryanakca> rysiek|pl: yes, I do... 45 minutes after the event :)
[07:16] <rysiek|pl> Canard_1: huh?
[07:16] <rysiek|pl> :)
[07:16] <ryanakca> rysiek|pl: I do tend to be a bit slow :P
[07:16] <ryanakca> rysiek|pl: I also do tend to eat lunch at 12:30 :)
[07:16] <rysiek|pl> ryanakca: you better hurry, then its 7pm already!
[07:17] <Canard_1> I want to extract a file to /var . But it says I need root access to write to that directory. Is there any way to do it using the file roller?
[07:17] <rysiek|pl> "file roller"?
[07:18] <ryanakca> rysiek|pl: I take it your in europe somewhere.... and from your /whois, poland?
[07:18] <Canard_1> File Roller- It called itself ark.
[07:18] <rysiek|pl> ryanakca: well, ok, it's seven PM in Poland, got me there :)
[07:19] <rysiek|pl> Canard_1 - ah, the Ark :)
[07:19] <rysiek|pl> Canard_1: I would suggest doing it a little differently
[07:19] <rysiek|pl> 1. unpack the file to a directory you have write privs
[07:20] <rysiek|pl> 2. copy the unpacked files to /var with: sudo cp source(s) destination
[07:21] <Canard_1> Ahh... okay. I was just wondering if there was a shortcut. Is it the same with files. When I open a file I do not have write access to with the current account, is there any way to save it with the root account without opening up the terminal?
[07:22] <rysiek|pl> nothing I know about
[07:22] <rysiek|pl> unless you start Ark with "Run as root" in KMenu
[07:22] <Canard_1> Ahh.. many thanks.
[07:22] <rysiek|pl> no prob
[07:23] <Canard_1> Enjoy your lunch
[07:24] <rysiek|pl> that was supposed to go to ryanakca, I suppose ;)
[07:25] <ryanakca> hmmm... I allready had my lunch, but thank-you, I did enjoy it :)
[07:25] <Canard_1> Well... carry it on to tommorow
[07:25] <ryanakca> lol, I will
[07:25] <Canard_1> Enjoy that lunch, and to a lesser extent your breakfast
[07:25] <ryanakca> lol... breakfast is WAY better than lunch.... :)
[07:25] <rysiek|pl> Well, I still have my supper ahead of me ;)
[07:34] <Riddell> pradeepto: hi
[07:47] <kj2006> hello :)
[07:49] <kj2006> does anybody here know parted in the knoppix implementation?
[07:49] <kj2006> i have resized some ntfs partitions and i am now trying to format new reiserfs partition on the free space
[07:50] <kj2006> but the formatting options in the menu are greyed out
[07:50] <kj2006> anyone?
[07:51] <kj2006> rysiek|pl: are you here?
[07:54] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:56] <ryanakca> where is your public key and secret key saved?
[08:01] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: yep, what's up?
[08:02] <rysiek|pl> kj2006: can you pastebin or paste me on /msg the info on your partitions?
[08:03] <asmerkin> hi, i'm having problems with OpenGL
[08:03] <rysiek|pl> asmerkin: what kind of problems?
[08:03] <asmerkin> do you know what i have to do to play games with opengl?
[08:03] <asmerkin> i cant use aplications that uses opengl
[08:03] <rysiek|pl> heh, have a 3d accelerated graphics card and proper drivers
[08:03] <rysiek|pl> what's your graphics card?
[08:04] <asmerkin> yeah, i've a GForce FX5200
[08:04] <ryanakca> where is your public key and secret key saved?
[08:04] <rysiek|pl> huh?
[08:04] <asmerkin> i have to install Nvidia drivers?
[08:04] <asmerkin> or kubuntu installed it?
[08:04] <rysiek|pl> asmerkin: I suppose you have to install them
[08:05] <rysiek|pl> ubotu tell asmerkin about nvidia
[08:05] <rysiek|pl> ryanakca: what's with the keys?
[08:05] <ryanakca> rysiek|pl: where are they saved?
[08:06] <asmerkin> thanks
[08:06] <ryanakca> rysiek|pl: gnupg.... pgp... encryption....
[08:06] <asmerkin> what's ubotu?? its a bot?
[08:07] <rysiek|pl> asmerkin: yep
[08:07] <rysiek|pl> ubotu tell asmerkin about ubotu
[08:07] <prague> hello everyone
[08:07] <ryanakca> asmerkin: a severly bloated blootbot :)
[08:07] <nuky> hi, do you know what library i need to get jabber on kopete to work? i know it's a library for sll but i'm not sure which one it is..
[08:07] <asmerkin> ahh, it's good
[08:07] <rysiek|pl> ryanakca: I don't. I don't have gpg nor pgp keys generated. only keys I have are ssh keys in ~/.ssh
[08:07] <asmerkin> ubotu tell me about kernel
[08:08] <nuky> sorry, i meant for ssl
[08:08] <rysiek|pl> nuky: ssl or ssh?
[08:08] <rysiek|pl> nuky: ssh in ~/.ssh
[08:08] <rysiek|pl> gotta go guys
[08:08] <rysiek|pl> cu all later
[08:09] <asmerkin> thanks, i'm installing Nvidia drivers
[08:09] <asmerkin> do i have to install another package before use openGL Libaries?
[08:10] <nuky> ssl.. because on the guidelines for setting up the connection it says to enable Use protocol encryption (SSL)...
[08:16] <nuky> i found out that the package i have to install qca-tls.. but how do i get kopete to see where it is?
[08:31] <nuky> is there any way of getting back the shell command history from before what's in the .bash_history file?
[08:35] <nocloud> does anybody know how to install ATI drivers on kubuntu?
[08:36] <ufo> nocloud: dapper?
[08:37] <ufo> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide there is for fglrx and dapper
[08:38] <_daniel_> Hey anyone here able to run banshee ?
[08:39] <nocloud> does the driver come included with the breezy install?
[08:39] <nocloud> or do i have to install itafter i install breezy?
[08:40] <_daniel_> I get a dbus message error when run banshee
[08:40] <_daniel_> but Apparently is just a kubuntu problem
[08:43] <nocloud> how can i tell which video driver is currently installed on my system?
[08:47] <_daniel_> nocloud, you look the modules that are loaded
[08:47] <_daniel_> and the modules you can load
[08:47] <_daniel_> and if you want to know exactly which module you are using look in xorg.cong
[08:48] <_daniel_> s/cong/conf
[08:51] <kj2006> wohoo!'
[08:51] <kj2006> !!
[08:51] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kj2006
[08:51] <kj2006> successfull install
[08:52] <kj2006> the kubuntu unbstaller was actually very nice!
[08:52] <warnaud> hello
[08:53] <kj2006> ::=)
[08:53] <prague> damn this is a nice OS...
[08:53] <kj2006> <--happyhappyhappyjoyjoyjoyjoy ;)
[08:56] <ben> hi
[08:57] <prague> hi
[08:57] <ben> can anyone recomend a cd ripper other than kaudiocreator
[08:57] <ben> it's probably just me but i find it very hit and miss
[08:57] <prague> k3b
[08:58] <prague> but i think there are some things that need to be installed first
[08:58] <ben> i didn't know k3b can rip as well
[08:59] <warnaud> anybody can send me a link or telle me how to reconfigure locales in iso 8859-15 on dapper ( I have edited /etc/locale.alias and /etc/environment ) but I've got perl warning on executing dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:00] <kj2006> brb changing os for testing...again :-)
[09:04] <ben> thanks prague, it looks like K3b can rip
[09:08] <rysiek|pl> noteventime: there was an error in that tar archive I gave you a link to
[09:08] <ben> is dapper due to be released in March or April?
[09:08] <rysiek|pl> now it's fixed (I have no idea, how did I manage to fcuk it up in the first plase o_O)
[09:08] <rysiek|pl> ben: 6.04 -> 04 is april I believe :)
[09:08] <ben> tahnks
[09:09] <rysiek|pl> no prob
[09:12] <noteventime> rysiak|pl:ok
[09:23] <asmerkin> hi,
[09:23] <asmerkin> can you help me?
[09:24] <asmerkin> the cdrom drive doesn't appear in media:/
[09:24] <kj2006> and there
[09:24] <kj2006> now the winxp partition works too
[09:25] <kj2006> *signs a happy song* all installation complete :)
[09:25] <asmerkin> sombebody help me please
[09:25] <kj2006> lol sings even :)
[09:25] <asmerkin> the cdrom drive doesn't appear in media:/
[09:25] <noteventime> ok
[09:25] <noteventime> asmerkin: Take a look if its   listed in /etc/fstab
[09:26] <asmerkin> ok
[09:27] <asmerkin> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[09:27] <asmerkin> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[09:27] <asmerkin> /dev/hda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[09:27] <asmerkin> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[09:27] <asmerkin> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     vfat    defaults        0       0
[09:27] <robotgeek> asmerkin: don't paste in here
[09:27] <asmerkin> /dev/hda4       none            swap    sw              0       0
[09:27] <asmerkin> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[09:27] <asmerkin> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[09:27] <asmerkin> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[09:27] <asmerkin> i don't understand that
[09:27] <asmerkin> ok
[09:27] <asmerkin> excuse me
[09:28] <asmerkin> what i have to do?
[09:29] <asmerkin> i need help
[09:30] <gurumeditationer> with what?
[09:32] <nuky> hey, i was wandering if someone could help me with an installation problem i have with kubuntu.. i want to install it on a sata drive machine but it halts during the installation at the part where you are meant to choose the partitions, saying that it did not find any available meadia to partition..
[09:32] <nuky> do you know why this is?
[09:33] <sharp896> your controller does not supply drivers that kubuntu can use
[09:33] <sharp896> something like that
[09:33] <asmerkin> i need to put an access of the cdrom drive in media:/
[09:33] <gurumeditationer> #kwrite
[09:33] <gurumeditationer> oops wrong window
[09:33] <asmerkin> i can't take out the cd
[09:39] <nuky> i just googled controllers and linux installations but i'm a bit confused.. is that a thing in the BIOS? or something needed in the kernel of the distro that i'm installing?
[09:40] <noteventime> asmerkin: Sorry I had to go for a while, try sudo umount /dev/cdrom0
[09:41] <noteventime> ops
[09:41] <noteventime> i mean /media/cdrom0
[09:42] <rysiek|pl> nuky: what Kubuntu version, what disk vendor/model?
[09:45] <nuky> i'm trying to install breezy... the pc i have is a fujitsu siemens scaleo p.. i'm trying to find out which model my disk is
[09:48] <noteventime> nuky: Why?
[09:50] <nuky> to see if there are drivers for it supported by linux.. hmmm
[09:50] <asmerkin> how can i do for the cdrom drive appear in media:/
[09:52] <noteventime> add it to fstab, or use kcontrol
[09:53] <noteventime> nuky: There are VERY few HDs that aren't supported in Linux
[09:53] <asmerkin> ok
[09:54] <nuky> ah i'm trying to install linux onto it.. it's a new pc with a single sata drive.. when i run the installtion cd, it halts at the point where the partitions are created, saying that it found no partitionable media..
[09:55] <blackflag> hello all
[09:55] <blackflag> i just install an IRC server
[09:55] <blackflag> ircd-irc2
[09:55] <blackflag> but canot find usefull documentation for it
[09:56] <noteventime> man ircd
[09:56] <noteventime> maybe
[09:56] <noteventime> nuky: Kubuntu?
[09:56] <noteventime> nuky: Are you connected to the internet, which version is it?
[09:57] <nuky> yeah, i'm trying to install kubuntu (breezy)
[09:57] <ninHer> hi all
[09:58] <noteventime> nuky: if your not afraid you could try dapper
[09:58] <noteventime> ninHer: 'ello
[09:58] <nuky> i am connected to the internet on this machine.. but i want to install kubuntu on another one..
[09:58] <nuky> oh, does that have sata support?
[09:58] <ninHer> hi noteventime
[09:58] <nuky> just checking the site for dapper... thanks
[09:58] <noteventime> I sun linux on sata
[09:58] <blackflag> also man ircd is not really usefull
[09:58] <noteventime> ok
[09:58] <nuky> what version of linux do you use?
[09:59] <noteventime>  /etc/ircd?
[09:59] <nuky> noteventime: did you have to do anything other than the normal installation process to get it working?
[10:00] <noteventime> nuky: Nope
[10:00] <noteventime> Nuky: you have free space, don't you?
[10:00] <noteventime> non-partitioned
[10:00] <nuky> yeah i have a few partitions on the sata pc that are free
[10:01] <noteventime> nuky: You could delete the free partitions
[10:01] <noteventime> I think kubuntu tries to make new ones
[10:01] <noteventime> That might be why it fails
[10:02] <nuky> ahhh i see what you mean.. i'll try that now..
[10:02] <nuky> if it doesn't work, i think i'll try dapper.. it's only a month away from release right?
[10:03] <noteventime> yes
[10:04] <simian> i've tried dapper a couple of times but it always has problems with x
[10:06] <noteventime> simian: Really, I've been running it for a while
[10:07] <simian> noteventime: did you have to configure anything to get x working?
[10:08] <simian> I tried it on two different laptops and had the same problem, I must be really unlucky
[10:08] <sharp896> ok, so installed kubuntu (5.10) and i get the login...and i login, and now it's my username@ubuntu:~$
[10:08] <noteventime> simian: I'm running it on a laptop right now :D
[10:08] <sharp896> what do i do from here
[10:09] <noteventime> You have gotte ninto the terminal :S
[10:09] <sharp896> i too am running this on a sata laptop
[10:09] <sharp896> yeah...how do i get to the gui
[10:09] <sharp896> like how the live disc just puts you there
[10:09] <noteventime> try this: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:10] <sharp896> password?
[10:10] <noteventime> sharp896: You should get into the GUI the same way the Live cd gets you, there must be something wrong
[10:10] <noteventime> sharp: Your password
[10:10] <sharp896> kdm already running
[10:10] <noteventime> Hmm try pressing ctrl + alt + f7
[10:10] <sharp896> i just followed the setup like it said
[10:10] <me2win> startx
[10:10] <me2win> sharp896, startx
[10:11] <noteventime> He shouldn't need startx
[10:11] <me2win> either that or your runlevels are f00ked. you would have to run telinit 3
[10:11] <sharp896> what does ctrl alt f7 do because it is just a blinking cursor now
[10:11] <noteventime> :S it should get you into GUI from terminal
[10:11] <noteventime> There is something wrong with your GUI system
[10:11] <me2win> sharp896, when you start up the computer, it takes you straight to command line?
[10:12] <noteventime> I think he gets to the KDM login
[10:12] <sharp896> when i press the power button, it says the runlevel is 0
[10:12] <noteventime> (s)he*
[10:12] <me2win> lolz
[10:12] <me2win> yeah
[10:12] <noteventime> :)
[10:12] <me2win> you need to change the runlevel, like i said
[10:12] <me2win> do this:    sudo telinit 3
[10:12] <sharp896> i don't know how to do that
[10:12] <sharp896> ok, it's booting
[10:13] <noteventime> I'm not prejudicious
[10:13] <me2win> heh
[10:14] <sharp896> ok, it did this last time before i just reinstalled it again...it's 'checking battery state' and just sits there
[10:14] <me2win> restart it
[10:15] <sorush20> what package do I install to get osx style kde toolbar?
[10:17] <sharp896> that's where it sits when i restart
[10:17] <sharp896> just sits where it's checking the battery
[10:19] <sharp896> ok, starting from the beginning.  default install, press enter
[10:19] <sharp896> enter, enter, enter
[10:20] <sharp896> do not config network at this time
[10:20] <sharp896> hostname: ubuntu
[10:21] <Heinkel> hello
[10:21] <flixor-> hy Heinkel
[10:21] <Heinkel> i have a fresh kubuntu install
[10:21] <Heinkel> 5.10
[10:21] <Heinkel> i have 5 partitions on my harddisk
[10:21] <Heinkel> it is dualboot
[10:22] <Heinkel> 2 of the partitions are ntfs
[10:22] <Heinkel> i cannot access them
[10:22] <Heinkel> ??
[10:22] <me2win> you need to mount them Heinkel
[10:22] <flixor-> you have to mount them
[10:23] <HymnToLife> !tell Heinkel about ntfs
[10:23] <flixor-> do you know the linux names for those partions
[10:23] <Heinkel> hey i thought they were mounted?
[10:23] <me2win> !mount
[10:23] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:23] <Heinkel> in etc/fstab ...
[10:23] <me2win> !windowsdrives
[10:23] <ubotu> from memory, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:23] <Heinkel> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:23] <Heinkel> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:23] <Heinkel> does not this mean that i have mounted?
[10:24] <HymnToLife> !tell Heinkel about pastebin
[10:24] <noteventime> Means you can mount
[10:24] <sharp896> ok, deleted all partitions, made a new primary partition of 10gb and a swap partition of 2gb
[10:24] <HymnToLife> that's a big swap
[10:24] <HymnToLife> ho many RAM do you have ?
[10:24] <sharp896> 2gb
[10:25] <HymnToLife> you don't even ned any swap with that much RAM...
[10:25] <HymnToLife> need*
[10:25] <flixor-> Heinkel: go to
[10:25] <Heinkel> i found the doc....i am reading hard right now, will come back with questions (after further failures :P))
[10:25] <flixor-> ehm Heinkel do mount in the console so you can see wich partitions are mounted
[10:26] <flixor-> dont paste it here
[10:27] <Heinkel> first make directory in /media/, like /media/winxpsys - and then mount device to that directory..right?
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> yep
[10:28] <flixor-> is your ntfs partion in /etc/fstab Heinkel
[10:28] <Heinkel> yes flixor
[10:28] <rysiek|pl> ok, gtg, cu all
[10:29] <Heinkel> it says filesystem = /dev/hda1 mount point = /media/hda1
[10:30] <me2win> @chuck
[10:30] <Eruantalon> Hi, I am having troubles with my audio programs in kunbut. One day (I can't remeber wether I installed extra software or something...) amarok wouldn't start because of a segfault, same problem with mplayer and vlc. Juk and kaffeine runs with a problem... Could anyone tell where to look for a solution to this problem. I have already searched the main ubuntu forums but to no succes. I have tried uninstalling differnet pieces of software to see we
[10:30] <Eruantalon> ault. My guess is that one of the audio libraries are defunct but i can't figure out which where. Where to look?
[10:30] <HymnToLife> heinkel > you have to change the mount parameters
[10:30] <HymnToLife> see here
[10:30] <HymnToLife> !ntfs
[10:30] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:32] <sharp896> ok, well i doubt i'll be keeping this config anyway, i just want it to work
[10:32] <Eruantalon> am i going to have to reinstall kubuntu?
[10:33] <me2win> Eruantalon, which audio engines are you using? alsa? xine? gstreamer?
[10:33] <me2win> sharp896, im not sure why it does that
[10:33] <Zappa> has anyone managed to get xgl+compiz working on dapper with an ATI card?
[10:33] <sharp896> does what
[10:33] <Eruantalon> me2win: I don't really know i have a lot of them installed
[10:34] <Eruantalon> My programs segfault before they even start...
[10:34] <me2win> go into adept and try reinstalling xine, and alsa
[10:34] <sharp896> ok, i entered my name, username, and pass.  it's not rebooting after it ejected the cd
[10:35] <me2win> sharp896, are you using a live CD or its an install?
[10:35] <Eruantalon> ok to sec
[10:35] <sharp896> install
[10:35] <sharp896> they don't really give you an opportunity to screw this up...i just made partitons, selected my timezone and user name
[10:35] <sorush20> guys I have kxdocker but I don't know how to turn off my current kde menu
[10:36] <sharp896> but sho nuf, doesn't want to work
[10:36] <me2win> sharp896, thats really wierd, something must have gone wrong at install, ive had it happen to me once where i isntalled it fine it seemed and it just didnt want to boot up, i would suggest reinstalling if you can
[10:37] <sharp896> ok, well this would be three times in a row
[10:37] <Eruantalon> alsa-base?
[10:37] <sharp896> it's doing the post-reboot stuff
[10:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[10:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i need HELP!
[10:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to repristinate files removed by RM ?
[10:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i just moved all the workspace files but i deleted all the eclipse preferences :(
[10:38] <me2win> sharp896, did you remove the CD from the tray after restart?
[10:38] <sharp896> jah
[10:38] <me2win> and close the tray>
[10:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> please
[10:38] <sharp896> otherwise it would go back through the initial setup
[10:38] <me2win> did you close the tray? lol
[10:39] <me2win> Tallia1Kubuntu, no
[10:39] <sharp896> yeah
[10:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> me2win: isn't there a version of rm that keep file in a trash?
[10:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like the one from kde..
[10:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or better. that use kde trash
[10:40] <sharp896> selecting res...1280x768
[10:41] <nuky> that would be quite useful.. a version or mr with a trash option..
[10:44] <Eruantalon> me2win: Still no luck
[10:44] <stian> im a complete linux newbie, and i need some help.
[10:44] <Eruantalon> Any other ideas?
[10:44] <stian> How do I go about to install this app? http://everythinglinux.org/TkApache/
[10:44] <stian> kubuntu off course
[10:44] <stian> its .pl files
[10:44] <stian> what do i do with em?
[10:45] <sharp896> ok, i'm at the ubuntu login now
[10:45] <me2win> sharp896, is it command line or GUI?
[10:45] <sharp896> and here we are...again...at the command line
[10:45] <stian> does anyone have a program that i can monitor connections on my apache server with?
[10:46] <me2win> stian, not sure
[10:46] <me2win> Shachaf, try   sudo telinit 3
[10:46] <me2win> again
[10:46] <me2win> sharp896, rather
[10:46] <sharp896> i'll try, david...err me2win
[10:46] <me2win> lol
[10:46] <Zappa> has anyone managed to get xgl+compiz working on dapper with an ATI card?
[10:47] <sharp896> GET IT?!?!?! david letterman and paul shafer?@?!?!?!
[10:47] <me2win> !compiz
[10:47] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win
[10:47] <douglas> If I want to set up a samba share with kde's graphical interface, How do I make it so when a windows machine try's to access it it doesn't ask for a username and password?
[10:47] <sharp896> ok, i did that and itasked for a password
[10:47] <sharp896> i typed mine in, and it said command not found
[10:48] <Eruantalon> stian: tail -f /var/log/apache/acces.log
[10:48] <me2win> TELINIT 3
[10:48] <me2win> ?
[10:48] <Eruantalon> :-P
[10:48] <stian> ill try that now
[10:48] <sharp896> let me try again, i probably typed it wron
[10:48] <sharp896> g
[10:48] <sharp896> haha, like that
[10:48] <me2win> haha
[10:48] <stian> tail: cannot open `/var/log/apache/acces.log' for reading: No such file or directory
[10:48] <stian> ?
[10:48] <sharp896> ok, it switched to runlevel 3
[10:49] <me2win> now do startx
[10:49] <stian> to s's
[10:49] <stian> but nothing happens
[10:50] <sharp896> ok, there's a lot of crap on the screen, but to put it short, it didn't work
[10:50] <me2win> sharp896, ok do this
[10:50] <stian> how do i monitor my apache server and the connections on it "live"?
[10:50] <sharp896> fatal server error, no screens found.  xio fatal error, fatal error 104
[10:51] <me2win> sharp896, type this in
[10:51] <sharp896> ok
[10:52] <me2win>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:52] <Heinkel> are there any other GUI text editors than kate in default kubuntu 5.10?
[10:53] <Heinkel> i get problem starting kate :(
[10:53] <sharp896> ok, i'm at the res selection screen
[10:53] <me2win> Heinkel, dont think so, but there is nano
[10:53] <me2win> sharp896, select your res
[10:53] <sharp896> done
[10:53] <rysiek|pl> ...and back again
[10:53] <Heinkel> me2win:  is nano texteditor or waht?
[10:53] <Eruantalon> I used to be able to do this: mplayer /dev/video0 and it would show the input from my videocard. Now mplayer is defunct at my end so i am looking for another progrma to accomplish the same... Any ideas?
[10:54] <me2win> Shachaf, now make sure your runlevel is 3 and restart i guess
[10:54] <stian> how do i monitor my apache server and the connections on it "live"
[10:54] <me2win> Heinkel, yeah, its default and its a text editor, but it works INSIDE the console, try it, its built in sudo nano whatever.txt
[10:54] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: what do you mean "Defunct"?
[10:54] <Eruantalon> segfault
[10:54] <sharp896> is there an easy command to reboot
[10:54] <Eruantalon> everytime i start it
[10:54] <me2win> sharp896, restart
[10:55] <Eruantalon> Along with amarok, vlc and other audio programs
[10:55] <rysiek|pl> sharp896: reboot
[10:55] <Eruantalon> Kaffeine still works though
[10:55] <sharp896> must be superuser to reboot
[10:55] <rysiek|pl> sudo reboot
[10:55] <me2win> sharp896, sudo restart
[10:55] <rysiek|pl> :)
[10:55] <me2win> err reboot
[10:55] <me2win> lol
[10:55] <sharp896> what's sudo for/mean
[10:55] <rysiek|pl> Set User DO
[10:56] <sharp896> thanks
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> wrong:
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> Super User Do
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> do as root
[10:56] <Crowbar> sudo safely escelates your privledges without making you root.
[10:56] <sharp896> ah
[10:56] <Eruantalon> Is there a way to make kaffeine or xine work as mplayer?
[10:56] <sharp896> that makes a lot more sense
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: it's just a segfault, no error msgs?
[10:56] <Eruantalon> yes
[10:56] <rysiek|pl> tried upgrading?
[10:57] <Eruantalon> Newest packages all around
[10:57] <rysiek|pl> damn
[10:57] <Eruantalon> I've tried removing the sound libraries iv'e tried installing them all
[10:57] <Eruantalon> Nothing help
[10:57] <rysiek|pl> strange, I must say
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> hmmm, as you say it's not only mplayer, but also Amarok and so on
[10:58] <Eruantalon> I think i am going to have to reformat my computer.... But that is no guarantee that it will work aftaerwards... it'll be the same packages
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> I suppose it's something with the soundserver or something
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: do a memtest first
[10:58] <zax1> heya, can any one help with networking with windows issues ?
[10:58] <rysiek|pl> yep, go for it zax1
[10:59] <zax1> i just installed kubuntu on another machine, and attached to my network
[10:59] <Eruantalon> memtest?
[10:59] <zax1> the linux machine can see the windows ones perfectly
[10:59] <zax1> but the windows machines cant see the linux ones
[10:59] <zax1> what do i neeed to do on the linux box to get the windows to 'see' it
[10:59] <rysiek|pl> what do you mean by "see"?
[11:00] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: when you boot-up your Kubuntu machine
[11:00] <rysiek|pl> there's an option in GRUB boot menu: memtest
[11:00] <Eruantalon> hmm tried that recently came up perfect. Besides the programs crash immedeatly after i load them and EVERY time
[11:00] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon, gimme a sec, I'll give you a link with info
[11:00] <Eruantalon> gotta be some sort of conflict between to libraries
[11:00] <rysiek|pl> ah, disregard that
[11:01] <rysiek|pl> do they crash immidiately after loading them?
[11:01] <Eruantalon> I can tell you as much as juk, xine, kaffeine and audacity still works
[11:01] <zax1> the windows box cant see the linux box, under computers in network neighborhood
[11:01] <Eruantalon> without a flaw
[11:02] <rysiek|pl> zax1: you have to setup Samba
[11:02] <rysiek|pl> the Linux box(es)
[11:02] <rysiek|pl> !samba
[11:02] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:02] <rysiek|pl> !tell zax1 about samba
[11:02] <Eruantalon> So what i gotta do is figure out what it is that vlc, mplayer, xmms and amarok has in common that xine, kaffeine and juk doesn't
[11:02] <zax1> rysiekpl, how do i do it ? i am at the samba config, and workgroup is set properly, it all seem fine to me
[11:02] <rysiek|pl> gstreamer, I suppose
[11:03] <rysiek|pl> zax1: is the Samba server running?
[11:03] <sharp896> ok, it's been sitting at 'checking batterty state' since i rebooted
[11:03] <Eruantalon> hmm yeah
[11:03] <Eruantalon> in kaffeine it tell me that is is using engine: kaffeine?
[11:03] <zax1> i dont know rysiekpl, how do i verify it ?
[11:04] <_david> Eruantalon: engine is gstreamer (that's the default one)
[11:04] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: and I suppose mplayer and the other crashing apps use gstreamer
[11:04] <me2win> sharp896, whats the longest you've ever given it
[11:04] <_david> Eruantalon: they forgot to add gstreamer there
[11:04] <Eruantalon> ok., i am going to try to remove all traces of gstreamer then
[11:04] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: remove gstreamer, mplayer and other crashing apps
[11:04] <_david> Eruantalon: what files don't work?
[11:04] <rysiek|pl> and install them anew
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> but remember to remove the config files, too
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> zax1: in console: ps aux | grep smb
[11:05] <Eruantalon> rysiek|pl: Ok
[11:05] <sharp896> well, we're going on, what, close to 10 minutes now?
[11:05] <Eruantalon> trying that well get back to you
[11:05] <rysiek|pl> ok
[11:06] <zax1> wht am i looking for
[11:06] <_mihai> newbie question: where are the linux passwords stored?
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> paste me on priv what the command returned
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: /etc/shadow
[11:07] <rysiek|pl> but you won't be able to read them - they're md5summed
[11:07] <_mihai> well
[11:07] <rysiek|pl> zax1:  paste me on priv what the command returned
[11:07] <sharp896> ! it's doing something...maybe...the screen just went blank
[11:07] <ubotu> sharp896: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:07] <_mihai> and how do hackers proceed ?
[11:07] <rysiek|pl> rofl :] 
[11:07] <_mihai> it's for educational purposes
[11:07] <zax1> i cant paste its on a nother comp
[11:07] <_mihai> sincerilly
[11:07] <zax1> it has 2 entries
[11:07] <Eruantalon> _mihai: They use a lookup table
[11:08] <zax1> 1 is about the smb conf which is open with kate
[11:08] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: they usually get the privs through security holes
[11:08] <zax1> the other is about grep smb
[11:08] <_mihai> aham
[11:08] <rysiek|pl> zax1: you're looking for smbd
[11:08] <rysiek|pl> zax1: and nmbd
[11:08] <_david> _mihai: but a hacker shouldn't even be able to read /etc/shadow
[11:08] <zax1> have neither there
[11:08] <rysiek|pl> zax1: ok, then Samba is not running
[11:09] <_mihai> lookup table is someting like a relation between md5summed encoded text and text itself ?
[11:09] <_david> _mihai: only root can read that file
[11:09] <zax1> ok, how do i get it up and running, and get it to load when linux ius loaded ?
[11:09] <_david> _mihai: yep, they're huge databases
[11:09] <rysiek|pl> zax1: try: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[11:09] <_mihai> got it
[11:09] <rysiek|pl> zax1: or: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd start
[11:09] <zax1> k
[11:09] <_mihai> another thing
[11:10] <_mihai> i want to configure a ssh server
[11:10] <rysiek|pl> zax1: looking for a good tutorial I once used, gimme a sec
[11:10] <_mihai> i'll have to istann openssh-server
[11:10] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: yep
[11:10] <_mihai> and after that?
[11:10] <_mihai> config the port
[11:10] <rysiek|pl> yep
[11:10] <_mihai> cuz my isp won't let me play with 23
[11:10] <_mihai> where is the config file?
[11:11] <rysiek|pl> _mihay: it's port 22 by default :)
[11:11] <zax1> i get command not found
[11:11] <_david> _mihai: under /etc/ssh
[11:11] <_mihai> well
[11:11] <_mihai> yes
[11:11] <_mihai> sorry
[11:11] <rysiek|pl> zax1: giomme a sec
[11:11] <_mihai> 23 is ftp ?
[11:11] <zax1> sure
[11:12] <rysiek|pl> zax1: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/troubleshooting.html
[11:12] <rysiek|pl> this is a *real* lifesaver
[11:12] <_mihai> so where is the conf file for openssh ?
[11:12] <rysiek|pl> /etc/ssh
[11:13] <_david> _mihai: scratch that, that's for the ssh client :)
[11:13] <zax1> thanks rysiek
[11:13] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: try reading the manual: man sshd
[11:13] <_mihai> ok
[11:13] <rysiek|pl> _david, )mihai: ooops, ma bad :] 
[11:13] <rysiek|pl> _david, _mihai: no, it's not! ha!
[11:14] <rysiek|pl> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:14] <_david> lol :)
[11:14] <_mihai> do you know why is linux far better than windows? beacause of the great community on which linux is based on
[11:15] <_mihai> ;)
[11:15] <Eruantalon> Back again... Can anyone tell my why all of a sudden xorg took up 800 megs of ram?
[11:15] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: WTF?!
[11:16] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: yep, that's true - but that's only possible due to being OpenSource, which enforces(!) the communities to get created
[11:16] <Eruantalon> It used up all my ram and then it went for my swap when it filled my swap my computer just stopped working. It had to swap in memory just to move the mouse...
[11:17] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: that's weird, never seen such a behaviour
[11:18] <Eruantalon> Adept does something similar once in a while. That is why I usually use synaptic
[11:18] <_mihai> ok i've just modified the port in sshd_config ... to Port XXXX... now how to restart the service, test it ?
[11:18] <Eruantalon> I am still looking for a good package manager
[11:18] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[11:19] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: ooops, like this: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[11:19] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: apt-get ;)
[11:19] <_david> Eruantalon: or aptitude for a nice console gui
[11:20] <Eruantalon> Yes that is good... But there is still some thing that it does not do for my (or i don't know how) fx how do i list all installed programs from one category?
[11:20] <_david> Eruantalon: aptitude can do that, just browse the tree
[11:20] <Eruantalon> I like synaptic because there is nothing i can't do. It is jsut so damn slow
[11:20] <Eruantalon> just
[11:20] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: it is slow, because it constantly needs to read data from the package db
[11:21] <rysiek|pl> unfortunately, that's something that is rather hard do change :/
[11:21] <Eruantalon> Yeah but adept is much faster
[11:21] <rysiek|pl> I'd say Adept is dead slow
[11:21] <rysiek|pl> but maybe I'm just too used to apt-get ;)
[11:22] <Eruantalon> everything is slow compared to apt-get
[11:22] <rysiek|pl> yep :)
[11:22] <_mihai> sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[11:22] <_mihai> hmm
[11:22] <_mihai> ?
[11:22] <Eruantalon> I guess I am jusrt going to have to settle with apt and learn all the commands
[11:22] <_mihai> after i ran sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[11:22] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[11:22] <rysiek|pl> as above
[11:23] <rysiek|pl> my bad, didn't check id previously, sorry :)
[11:23] <_mihai> now... how to know if it works?
[11:23] <Eruantalon> I know this is a Kubuntu forum... but does anyone know a distro with the same nice fully configured basic install as kubuntu but with newer packages?
[11:23] <rysiek|pl> is this system accessible from internet?
[11:24] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: is this system accessible from internet?
[11:24] <_mihai> telnet localhost does not work... could not connect
[11:24] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: it's not telnet
[11:24] <Eruantalon> What i really want is debian i guess with some sensible default configs
[11:24] <_mihai> rysiek|pl: ?
[11:24] <_mihai> i know
[11:24] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: ssh user@localhost
[11:24] <_mihai> :)
[11:25] <_mihai> ok where do i specify the port in the ssh command?
[11:25] <_mihai> ssh -p XXX user@localhost ?
[11:25] <rysiek|pl> ssh <user>@<server>:<port>
[11:25] <rysiek|pl> wait, I'll check it ;)
[11:25] <rysiek|pl> man ssh
[11:26] <rysiek|pl> eh, wrong again :/
[11:26] <rysiek|pl> ssh -p <port> user@serwer
[11:26] <rysiek|pl> like: ssh -p XXXX rysiek@rysiek.ath.cx
[11:26] <_david> rysiek|pl: I woul say the above was correct too?
[11:26] <rysiek|pl> manpage suggests otherwise
[11:27] <nuky> if i wanted to install the xfce desktop environment on kubuntu, what would i have to apt-get install?
[11:27] <rysiek|pl> _david: ssh (...)  [user@] hostname [command] 
[11:27] <_david> rysiek|pl: ok but doesn't hostname include the port (just guessing here) :)
[11:28] <rysiek|pl> _david: now don't get too smart :P
[11:28] <rysiek|pl> maybe :)
[11:28] <rysiek|pl> nuky: xfce4 - Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up
[11:28] <_david> I just have in memory that it was possible that way, but I can very well be wrong :)
[11:28] <rysiek|pl> nuky: run in console: apt-cache search xfce
[11:29] <rysiek|pl> read that list and choose what you think you need. I have never set up xfce
[11:29] <rysiek|pl> _david: now you made me test it! :)
[11:29] <_david> I wanted to test but haven't got an sshd server running :)
[11:30] <nuky> thanks, i heard it was really clean and lightweight.. want to try it out.. :)
[11:30] <rysiek|pl> xxxx@localhost:~$ ssh xxxx@192.168.0.6:22
[11:30] <rysiek|pl> ssh: 192.168.0.6:22: Name or service not known
[11:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why don't i have java in repositories??
[11:30] <rysiek|pl> nuky: no prob
[11:30] <slow-motion> n8
[11:30] <_david> ahh, nooo, ok you were right :-D
[11:30] <rysiek|pl> Tallia1Kubuntu: ah, but you do! :)
[11:30] <Eruantalon> Sigh, I am giving up. Going to reformat the computer tomorrow... Damn i've gotta start all over with mythtv, ivtv, and all the others thing I used hours to install and config.
[11:30] <Eruantalon> Thanks anyways
[11:30] <rysiek|pl> ubotu tell Tallia1Kubuntu about java
[11:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no... there's only gcj
[11:31] <Eruantalon> Anyone know when the next version of kubuntu will be out?
[11:31] <_david> !java
[11:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:31] <_david> !javadebs
[11:31] <rysiek|pl> read what ubotu told you, Tallia1Kubuntu :)
[11:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[11:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my eclipse stopped working :(
[11:31] <_david> yeah, the javadebs is usefull :)
[11:31] <nuky> doesn't kubuntu release version at the same time as ubuntu? as in, will there be an equivalent dapper kubuntu next month?
[11:32] <_david> nuky: I hope so :)
[11:32] <rysiek|pl> Yep :)
[11:32] <nuky> hehe me too... i'm waiting for it before i install on my main machine.. :)
[11:33] <Heinkel> reboot brb...console works fine reads ntfs partition but not gui applications :(
[11:33] <Eruantalon> So what you are saying is that there will be a new version of kubuntu out in about one month=
[11:33] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: yep
[11:33] <_david> Eruantalon: yep, the end of April if I'm right
[11:33] <Eruantalon> Maybe i'll wait for that
[11:34] <Eruantalon> Maybe I won't
[11:34] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: I would try to fix your current setup
[11:34] <Eruantalon> rysiek|pl: If you have anymore ideas i will welcome them
[11:34] <rysiek|pl> although I can't think of anything that would cause such problems as you have
[11:34] <Eruantalon> I'm just getting really sick of kubuntu
[11:34] <rysiek|pl> except a hardware failure somewhere
[11:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when dapper will come out
[11:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[11:35] <rysiek|pl> April :)
[11:35] <_mihai> it almoust works (fuckin router and port forwarding)... anyway inside the lan works well... question: i've installed putty and if i type putty from the command line, i get an error: could not open display
[11:35] <rysiek|pl> putty is a grafical app
[11:35] <_mihai> yes
[11:36] <rysiek|pl> you installed putty on your linux box?
[11:36] <_mihai> but in ubuntu (gnome bla bla) it opened it in graphical mode
[11:36] <Eruantalon> Seems to happen with all the distros i try, the first 5 month they are the shit but from there on there's nothing but trouble and everything starts to brake and i begin to research the price of a macontosh og winXp, Some one directs my at some new distro that does it all and doesnt have any of the problem of the previous one and i am in heaven again
[11:36] <simian> yi thought putty was for windows
[11:36] <_mihai> so... in ubuntu (not kubuntu) i've typed apt-get install putty
[11:36] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: are you logged in as root, by any chance?
[11:37] <_mihai> yes
[11:37] <rysiek|pl> Eruantalon: it has to be hardware failure, then
[11:37] <_david> _mihai: you know that you can login a sshd server with the ssh command?
[11:37] <_mihai> and after the installation whas ok... i've typed putty
[11:37] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: that's the problem :)
[11:37] <rysiek|pl> _mihai, open a new konsole
[11:37] <rysiek|pl> as a normal user
[11:37] <_mihai> okk
[11:37] <rysiek|pl> and type putty
[11:38] <_mihai> rysiek|pl: it works... what was the bubu?
[11:38] <rysiek|pl> when you run it from a konsole where you're logged in as root
[11:38] <rysiek|pl> it can't establish a connection with the XServer
[11:39] <_mihai> AHAM
[11:39] <_mihai> ok
[11:39] <_mihai> 10x
[11:39] <Eruantalon> well goodnight
[11:39] <rysiek|pl> nop :)
[11:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone can me explain what's wrong?
[11:39] <rysiek|pl> gn8, Eruantalon
[11:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/q8ayNh20.html
[11:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my eclipse stopped working in a meaningless way
[11:39] <_mihai> question: my friend is logged in on my machine (by ssh). is there a method to display on his machine apps installed on my pc?
[11:40] <rysiek|pl> Tallia1Kubuntu: I have no idea, maybe try #java or something like that
[11:40] <me2win> _mihai, not necessarily
[11:41] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: you mean like your friend usiong the GUI through ssh?
[11:41] <_mihai> smth like that...
[11:41] <rysiek|pl> _mihai: never played with that, but there is a way
[11:41] <_mihai> just displaying let's say my xmms
[11:41] <arafel> er, the one you already have running?
[11:42] <rysiek|pl> mihai_: ah, that's easy: VNC
[11:42] <mihai_> ?
[11:42] <rysiek|pl> but that will not go through ssh
[11:42] <rysiek|pl> gimme a sec
[11:42] <rysiek|pl> http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/
[11:43] <rysiek|pl> or rather...
[11:43] <rysiek|pl> http://www.tightvnc.com/
[11:43] <rysiek|pl> that should do the trick
[11:44] <rysiek|pl> but it is completely separate from openssh and needs setting up, an open port, and so on
[11:44] <Heinkel> ok we try again
[11:44] <rysiek|pl> Heinkel: what is the problem? :)
[11:44] <Heinkel> hehe...correct mounting of ntfs partitions
[11:45] <_david> mihai_: If you want your friend to just run a graphical application you can also use ssh -X
[11:45] <rysiek|pl> Heinkel: you want it writeable, or will read-only suffice?
[11:45] <Heinkel> hehe...it is enough with read-only
[11:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> --with-qt-includes=/usr/include/qt3/
[11:46] <rysiek|pl> Heinkel: ok, let's play with that
[11:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to avoid that every time in ./configure?
[11:46] <_neoncode> Were is the kwin config file?
[11:46] <rysiek|pl> Heinkel: are you registered with freenode?
[11:46] <Heinkel> no..
[11:46] <rysiek|pl> (so that you could write on priv)
[11:47] <rysiek|pl> a
[11:47] <Heinkel> will fix that tomorrow
[11:47] <tidalwav1> hi, all
[11:47] <tidalwav1> I'm trying to gey my wireless internet to work in flight 4
[11:47] <rysiek|pl> Heinkel: join #heinkel-rysiek :)
[11:47] <Heinkel> ah thanks
[11:49] <tidalwav1> anyone think they can help?
[11:49] <rysiek|pl> Tallia1Kubuntu: there is a way, something with an environment var (QT_INCLUDE_PATH or smthng like that)
[11:49] <tidalwav1> ndiswrapper doesn't work :(
[11:49] <rysiek|pl> search google
[11:49] <tidalwav1> it did in Ubuntu 5.10
[11:49] <mihai_> _david: ssh -X when?
[11:49] <mihai_> _david: when already logged in?
[11:50] <_david> mihai_: in your sshd config file you need to enable it, so it is allowed to run gui apps, than you can login with ssh -X user@hostname
[11:50] <_david> mihai_: so before login
[11:51] <_david> mihai_: but I don't exaclty know what needed to be edited in the sshd config file, but I think google (or someone else in this channel) knows :)
[11:51] <mihai_> _david: aham... and after that just execute an app (ex. :~$xmms)
[11:51] <_david> mihai_: yep
[11:51] <tidalwav1> ok, I'll try it this way: where does kubuntu flight 4 store its network card settings, because it's definitely not /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:51] <mihai_> _david: 10x
[11:52] <tidalwav1> anyone? :(
[11:53] <mihai_> are there apps that transform a md5 pass in text ?
[11:53] <Captainbraille> Hi, I'm trying to make a symbolic link for dev/hdd and when I click OK I get this.. "Could not save properties. You do not have sufficient access to write to /home/.wine/dosdevices/CD-ROM Device."   How do I fix that?
[11:54] <arafel> mihai_: I don't understand what you mean, I'm afraid.
[11:55] <rysiek|pl> mihai_: you can't transform md5 back to text - it's a one-way crypt
[11:55] <mihai_> well... after viewing the /etc/shadow file of "secred data" i get some fancy sausage encrypted text just before an user name... can i decript it?
[11:55] <mihai_> aham
[11:55] <mihai_> ok
[11:55] <_redondos> hello!
[11:56] <mihai_> damn... i knew that (from php) but it didn't hurt asking :P
[11:56] <_redondos> anyone can help me with JACKD
[11:56] <_redondos>  ???
[11:57] <_redondos> anyone can help me with JACKD ??
[11:58] <arafel> _redondos: I don't use it, sorry
[11:58] <_redondos> ok
[11:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> rysiek|pl: for all the option --qt-include-* which would be your paths?
[11:59] <nuky> in kubuntu, is there an easy way to add a task to cron? i just want it to run "cat ~/.bash_history >> ~/.bash_history_all" every night because i'm still learning and i don't want to loose the steps i've carried out before..
[11:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nuky: kcron
[11:59] <mihai_> how can i let a app to run even after i logout?
[11:59] <mihai_> *an
[12:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mihai_: logout as  user?
[12:00] <mihai_> yeap
[12:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or logout from kde
[12:00] <crodler> anyone has a working vtun-nossl package?
[12:00] <_redondos> anyone can help me with JACKD ??
[12:00] <mihai_> let's say i have a shell account
[12:00] <arafel> mihai_: I think you want nohup
[12:00] <nuky> oh.. is there a way through terminal? i'd like to know the terminal procedure before using the gui.. but the tutorials online using a cron instance aren't too understandable..
[12:00] <arafel> or possibly screen
[12:00] <arafel> nuky: crontab -e :)
[12:00] <nuky> thanks though.. i'll use it for my purpose now and figure out the terminal way in time :)
[12:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mihai_: you have to put a script in /etc/init.d and a link in one of /etc/rcN.d
[12:01] <nuky> ahhh... trying that now!!
[12:01] <arafel> Tallia1Kubuntu: I'm not sure that's what he wants.
[12:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> if a user logout all the process created by him are killed
[12:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in that way the script is run by root
[12:02] <arafel> Tallia1Kubuntu: which is probably a bad thing
[12:02] <arafel> you can leave processes running when you logout
[12:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> really? i dunno about that
[12:02] <arafel> nohup or screen are the easiest ways
[12:03] <mihai_> someone suggested screen
[12:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ;) always learning :)
[12:03] <rysiek|pl> Tallia1Kubuntu: sorry, was busy on another channel. My paths? I've not been compiling for Qt for a long time :)
[12:03] <mihai_> how does that work?
[12:03] <arafel> Tallia1Kubuntu: my fetchmail daemon keeps running even when I logout as a user ;-)
[12:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> rysiek|pl: :)
[12:03] <arafel> mihai_: man screen
[12:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> arafel: i don't have the minumum idea of what's fetchmail
[12:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[12:03] <arafel> but basically it creates a 'virtual' terminal you can attach or detach to
[12:04] <arafel> Tallia1Kubuntu: it collects mail from remote mailservers and delivers it elsewhere.