[12:00] <Kr4t05> Hoary*
[12:00] <hydroksyde> chuckyp, there was just a netslit
[12:00] <hydroksyde> err
[12:00] <hydroksyde> netsplit
[12:00] <chuckyp> Kr4t05, fluxbox icewm or xfce4
[12:00] <Kr4t05> chuckyp: 128MB RAM, you think I could handle a KDE-lite?
[12:01] <topyli> Kr4t05: servers don't need window managers
[12:01] <Kr4t05> topyli: I'm a n00b
[12:01] <Kr4t05> topyli: Let me be. :P
[12:01] <chuckyp> Kr4t05, I dunno never messed with KDE-lite what type of cpu?
[12:01] <R3linquish3r> i jsut installed photoshop 7 with wine.... how do i launch it?
[12:01] <ompaul> Kr4t05, so update to 5.10 and do then install server xubuntu for the desktop you will need gdm and then >> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start<< away you go
[12:01] <Kr4t05> chuckyp: Pentium 200MHz
[12:01] <Seveas> freenode is seriously fucked up today...
[12:02] <soundray> Kr4t05: are you coming from MS Windows?
[12:02] <chuckyp> R3linquish3r, wine <exe name>
[12:02] <soundray> Language, Seveas!
[12:02] <Kr4t05> soundray: Kinda-sorta
[12:02] <Seveas> soundray, sorry, services isn't here - can't kick myself
[12:02] <chuckyp> Kr4t05, I don't have much experience with KDE lite but check out XFCE and the others.  there are a ton of light weight window managers.
[12:02] <Kr4t05> topyli: Ok
[12:02] <R3linquish3r> chuckyp: I get: "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Photoshop.exe": Module not found"
[12:02] <soundray> Kr4t05: icewm tries to be a bit similar and is small-footprint
[12:02] <Kr4t05> chuckyp: Ok*
[12:02] <ompaul> Seveas, :-)
[12:03] <Hit3k> Kr4t05 try fluxbox
[12:03] <Kr4t05> Hit3k: Aight
[12:03] <Kr4t05> there it goes again.
[12:04] <topyli> oh great
[12:04] <R3linquish3r> wtf?
[12:04] (chuckyp/#ubuntu) R3linquish3r, because its probably not in that directory look around in the .wine/c drive/  folder  I doubt ps would install into system 32.
[12:04] <R3linquish3r> its not
[12:04] <soundray> Seveas: you were right, there is no other word for it ;)
[12:04] <rikai> splitting all over the place. :D
[12:04] <R3linquish3r> checkyp: its in program files
[12:04] <Seveas> soundray, "seriously fucked up" is the most accurate description I can think of
[12:04] <Kr4t05> rikai: I think the server itself is dying.
[12:04] <R3linquish3r> chuckyp: so why is wine loking in system32?
[12:05] <chuckyp> R3linquish3r, well then if you go to wherre the exe is then you just type wine photshop.exe or whatever.
[12:05] <geneo93> someone running keylogger here
[12:05] <soundray> Seveas: fubar
[12:05] <ompaul> I think that will take several hours to figure out what do that
[12:05] <rikai> R3linquish3r, ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[12:05] <Seveas> soundray, snafu 
[12:05] <R3linquish3r> chuckyp: so CD the directory?
[12:05] <chuckyp> R3linquish3r, yeah
[12:05] <rikai> chuckyp, would he have a better time just asking in @winehq?
[12:05] <ompaul> geneo93, it would not do that - most of us are on linux
[12:05] <R3linquish3r> rikai: thx
[12:05] <rikai> chuckyp, or even better, reading the manual for wine. ~.~;
[12:06] <chuckyp> rikai, yeah but who reads manuals anymore lmao.  Thats the first place I would look lol.
[12:06] <rikai> chuckyp, i thought you were serious when you said that first bit, lol.
[12:06] <geneo93> ompaul:  i keep getting lilo warnings to use port 8001
[12:06] <ompaul> Seveas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic have a look at that
[12:08] <Seveas> ok, this is worse than completely fucked up
[12:08] <chuckyp> rikai, nah being sarcastic about all the people that come in here before even googling or going to the develeopers site. 
[12:08] <geneo93> ompaul:  and getting disconnected
[12:08] <R3linquish3r> rikai i do "cd /.wine/drive_c/Program\Files/Adobe/Photoshop\7.0"?
[12:08] <chuckyp> R3linquish3r, you do what ever you want perhaps check out the appdb on winehq?
[12:08] <ompaul> hmm well this time I am on 8001 but I don't have one of those funny routers nor to do I run windows
[12:09] <chuckyp> R3linquish3r, http://appdb.winehq.org/
[12:09] <rikai> R3linquish3r, err, tere shoudl be a \ and a space whereever teres a psace in a directory name.
[12:09] <rikai> so
[12:09] <ompaul> Seveas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic have a look at that will ya
[12:09] <geneo93> doesn't it seem like 400 users are missing
[12:09] <R3linquish3r> chuckyp: alright man thx
[12:09] <Seveas> ompaul, tomorrow if you don't mind
[12:09] <rikai> R3linquish3r, cd /.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Adobe/Photoshop\ 7.0
[12:09] <rikai> err
[12:09] <rikai> R3linquish3r, cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Adobe/Photoshop\ 7.0
[12:10] <R3linquish3r> rikai: there we go
[12:10] <R3linquish3r> rikai: thx
[12:10] <rikai> np
[12:10] <ompaul> Seveas, yeah no worries if this thing goes bottoms up again I may head off
[12:10] <R3linquish3r> rikai: got it thanks alot
[12:10] <Seveas> ompaul, it'll happen soon ;)
[12:10] <rikai> np o/
[12:10] <rikai> R3linquish3r, after that, you should jsut be able to do wine Photoshop.exe
[12:11] <rikai> or whatever the name of the photoshop exe is.
[12:11] <R3linquish3r> rikai: alright thx
[12:11] <Kr4t05> OK
[12:11] <Kr4t05> What does "GRUB Geom Error" mean?
[12:11] <R3linquish3r> rikai: do u no were i can find a way to make a desktop shortcut?
[12:11] <chuckyp> R3linquish3r, tab key is your friend in linux.
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[12:12] (s|k/#ubuntu-unregged) JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
[12:12] <pragun> LOl
[12:12] (Knorrie/#ubuntu-unregged) wtf
[12:12] (s|k/#ubuntu-unregged) IM TIRED OF THIS
[12:12] (Skwid_/#ubuntu-unregged) wtf
[12:12] <pragun> haha 200 people already
[12:12] <Kr4t05> ...
[12:12] <bluefoxicy> what the fucking crap
[12:12] <Chousuke> oooooooooooooooooooooo kay.
[12:12] <Kr4t05> This sucks
[12:13] <pragun> going on 250 joins since i came in like...30 seconds ago
[12:13] <Kr4t05> We done?
[12:13] <LeeJunFan> man wtf?
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> bull shit
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> there are not this many people.
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> kill the fucking spambots
[12:13] <HymnToLife> that's one hell of a netsplit lol
[12:13] <rikai> haha
[12:13] <Seveas> omfg
[12:13] <Knorrie> holy moly!!
[12:13] <Seveas> n kmot iedereen hier :S
[12:13] <geneo93> this i driving me nuts
[12:13] <maxkelley> yay
[12:13] <Knorrie> Seveas: hey! :)
[12:13] <Drac|Laptop> bluefoxicy: I SERVER WENT DOWN
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> Seveas why the hell are you here
[12:13] <s|k> I can't get into the really channel
[12:13] <ploom> netsplit?
[12:13] <Seveas> EVERYBODY OUT
[12:13] <maxkelley> oigh.
[12:13] <Drac|Laptop> A*
[12:13] <bluefoxicy> you belong in #ubuntu don't you
[12:13] <Knorrie> LOL
[12:13] <R3linquish3r> chuckyp: what does tab do?
[12:13] <Kr4t05> Okay
[12:13] <maxkelley> ok, seveas..
[12:13] <crimsun> Seveas: those of us who are identified are automatically punted back in here.
[12:14] <R3linquish3r> im lost.....
[12:14] <Drac|Laptop> FREENODE IS UNDER ATTACK
[12:14] <Seveas> crimsun, no
[12:14] <Seveas> it's the +J
[12:14] <Kr4t05> Someone tell me what "GRUB Geom Error" means?
[12:14] <Seveas> FUCKING SERVERS KEEP RESETTING IT
[12:14] <s|k> :|
[12:14] <crimsun> Seveas: right
[12:14] <s|k> I can't load x windows on Ubuntu, I get this error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7667, but this X module is version 1.0.8178.
[12:14] <Seveas> OUT
[12:14] <Seveas> #ubuntu is open again
[12:14] <Seveas> and the next freenode admin i get my hands on dies
[12:16] <crimsun> woops.
[12:22] <th0rndike> helllo ppl
[12:22] <ompaul> !bot
[12:22] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[12:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geneo93: Ubuntu hasn't used XFree86 since Warty... o_O
[12:22] <JohnP789> I've got a freenx problem.  When I connect to my server, the client shows a window for a fraction of a second then exits.  How do I fix it?
[12:23] <th0rndike> guys anyone can give me a hand? trying to use pthread.h but im told that it doesnt exist... any packages i should add?
[12:23] <ubuntu> mother fuckers
[12:23] <nrg88> hi, i wan't to unmount hda5, but it sais: umount: /media/hda5: device is busy
[12:23] <ubuntu> fuck
[12:23] <ubuntu> fuckers
[12:23] <geneo93> PuMpErNiCkLe:  i had to mkdir in dapper for xfree86 and copy contenets of x11 to it
[12:23] <ubuntu> shit
[12:23] <ubuntu> dfgfgh
[12:23] <ubuntu> fghfdgh
[12:23] <ubuntu> dfsghfdgh
[12:23] <ubuntu> dfhg
[12:23] <ubuntu> gh
[12:23] <ubuntu> gh
[12:23] <ubuntu> gh
[12:23] <ubuntu> gh
[12:23] <nrg88> ubuntu, !?
[12:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !ops
[12:23] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[12:23] <ubuntu> gh
[12:23] <ubuntu> gh
[12:23] <th0rndike> dam flooder
[12:23] <gmf_> could someone show me an /etc/network/interface file with standarn dhcp configuration on 1 network card?
[12:23] <avu> what an original troll...
[12:24] <Morg> How do I tell Synaptic to "Completely Remove" all packages that are currently not installed?
[12:24] <ompaul> th0rndike, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:24] <nrg88> hi, i want to unmount hda5, but it sais: umount: /media/hda5: device is busy
[12:24] <glick> excuse me does anyone know if mac OSX supports reiserfs filesystems
[12:24] <Morg> I'm running low on HD space.
[12:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geneo93: That's really weird.
[12:24] <pragun> crimsun: yt?
[12:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glick: Not that I know of.
[12:24] <glick> damn
[12:25] <crimsun> pragun: amixer -c0 sset 'Master',0 27
[12:25] <geneo93> PuMpErNiCkLe:  have you tried dapper and nvidia yet
[12:25] <crimsun> pragun: something like that
[12:25] <Stormx2> Heya
[12:25] <adam_> what's the best ppp frontend?
[12:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geneo93: No, I'm waiting for about RC2 - I had too many unfortunate experiences trying unstable Breezy to do the same with something as big as Dapper.
[12:25] <adam_> gnome-ppp isn't working
[12:26] <ompaul> folks any chance that those who want talk about dapper would take it to #ubuntu+1 thanks
[12:26] <geneo93> PuMpErNiCkLe:  i'm using dapper ATM
[12:26] <pragun> crimsun: didnt work with 'Master': unable to find control and replacing that with 'Front'...changes vol control
[12:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geneo93: cont in #ubuntu+1 ?
[12:26] <ompaul> geneo93, please :-)
[12:26] <th0rndike> man
[12:26] <th0rndike> i get this:
[12:26] <th0rndike>  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:26] <th0rndike> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:26] <crimsun> pragun: no, use your mixer element.
[12:26] <pragun> crimsun: multimedia keyboard buttons still can't change vol
[12:26] <phrizer> Hm, any suggestions of some software similiar to 'goldwave', but for linux, that is, some audio proccessing software with a gui?
[12:26] <ompaul> th0rndike, sudo apt-get install (mea cupla)
[12:27] <crimsun> pragun: no, you have to write a script to change it
[12:27] <pragun> crimsun: "amixer -c0 sset 'Front',0 27"
[12:27] <th0rndike> hehehe ok
[12:27] <pragun> a script to change it?
[12:27] <pragun> so theres no easy way to do this?
[12:27] <zarephath> Ok so I have all kinds of trouble with this onboard ATI Xpress 200...I talked to tech support and they claim that the type of slot in the motherboard is called a PCI Express 16X slot...corresponding to the type of video card...how much trouble would a  GeForce video card be? He suggested either the 4000 or 5200...I don't really need dual vga outs on the card...but I guess the 4000 card comes that way for dual display..suggestio
[12:27] <zarephath> ns people?
[12:27] <th0rndike> get same thing :S
[12:27] <geneo93> PuMpErNiCkLe:  i'm in there also just stoped here to see what was going on with freenode
[12:27] <crimsun> pragun: not unless you exchange the front and pcm elements, which is a quirk, and I'm a bit busy atm
[12:27] <pragun> ok
[12:27] <Psi-Jack> Okay.. This is starting to SERIOUSLY get on my nerves.
[12:27] <pragun> if you get time, can you just drop me a line? (pragun@gmail.com)
[12:28] <Shed> zarephath, are you looking to buy a new graphics card?
[12:28] <pragun> theres no rush
[12:28] <Psi-Jack> What is it about resolvconf that keeps destroying my resolv.conf file?
[12:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zarephath: It's been my experience that nVidia is very reliable.  (I'm using a 6600GT AGP right now.)
[12:28] <Grumbatz> DCC SEND string 0 0 0
[12:28] <Psi-Jack> And.. WHY? :)
[12:28] <ompaul> eno-away, dont mark yourself away - do /away nbame
[12:28] <Snake__> Omg
[12:28] <zarephath> Shed: Yes...
[12:28] <Shed> zarephath, here are some NVIDIA PCIex graphics cards: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/nvidia_PCI_Express.html
[12:28] <th0rndike> any other ideas?
[12:29] <zarephath> PuMpErNiCkLe: Ok but out of the box and ubuntu can handle it with no problems? I don't want to have to recompile the kernel, redo source code..blah
[12:29] <ompaul> th0rndike, u got updates running or synaptic or something?
[12:29] <zarephath> Shed thanks:
[12:29] <lilo> got to hate that
[12:29] <epp> hey, whats the best server for amule?
[12:29] <th0rndike> loooool
[12:29] <th0rndike> i was trying to understand what was the process
[12:29] <th0rndike> but missed the synaptic window
[12:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zarephath: Yeah, it'll work out of the box.  You may want to switch from the default nv driver to the official nvidia one (for performance, mostly), but that's easy and well-documented.
[12:30] <th0rndike> ok lets see if it compiles now
[12:30] <cinder> how can I change default size of icons in desktop?
[12:30] <gmf_> could someone please help me with my netywork, i want to use ordinary dhcp to connect internet but i've configured to use ppoe and now i dont want ppoe but i dont know how to remove it and use ordinary dhcp again
[12:30] <gmf_> please help
[12:30] <Psi-Jack> crimsun: You handy?
[12:30] <zarephath> Great...looks like I am off to Fry'
[12:30] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: not particularly, I'm chasing a gst0.10 bug
[12:30] <zarephath> Fry's electronics to get me a new card..heh
[12:30] <Psi-Jack> crimsun: D'oh. heh.
[12:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zarephath: Awesome. :)
[12:31] <epp> hey, whats the best server for amule? None of them will let me download anything...
[12:31] <NoUse> gmf_ can you use synaptic to remove the pppoe package?
[12:31] <zarephath> CYA..thanks for the advice folks!
[12:32] <ompaul> lilo it is not a matter of hate something, its just loath it with every fiber?
[12:32] <cinder> how can I change default size of icons in desktop?
[12:32] <Seveas> lilo, servers kept resetting +J even though I removed that mode MULTIPLE TIMES
[12:33] <Seveas> lilo, that is severely annoying - 2/3 of the channel is missing
[12:33] <liable> be thankfull.. quiet time :)
[12:33] <Seveas> I'm not thankful - I'm very annoyed
[12:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wtf
[12:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Join flood o_O
[12:34] <samIarent> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129445 -any advice?
[12:34] <oklinux> what program do I play dvd disc with ?
[12:34] <ompaul> PuMpErNiCkLe, no we are just going back to where we were
[12:34] <Seveas> PuMpErNiCkLe, no, I'm kicking everyone out on -unregged
[12:34] <Seveas> thank god most of them do auto-rejoin
[12:35] <GeodesicGnome> I'm running 5.10 w/kernel 2.6.12-9.  Where can I find the kernel source to match?
[12:35] <ompaul> Seveas, want a hand?
[12:35] <samIarent> particularly a useful driver to use in that situation, Ndiswrapper's wiki is doing nothing for me
[12:35] <chuckyp> GeodesicGnome, apt
[12:35] <Seveas> ompaul, 300+ down, 20 to go
[12:35] <epp> hey, whats the best server for amule? None of them will let me download anything...
[12:35] <ompaul> Seveas, is that a no? ;-0
[12:35] <Kr4t05> !xfce
[12:35] <ubotu> hmm... xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[12:35] <cinder> epp, check your firewall
[12:35] <Morg> Is there any way to clear space on my hard drive by "completely" removing uninstalled packages?
[12:36] <YogSothoth> Hi
[12:36] <GeodesicGnome> apt what?  Tried that but all I find is 2.6.11
[12:36] <YogSothoth> Need to say it:
[12:36] <ompaul> Kr4t05, I was saying that and gdm need to be installed
[12:36] <Kr4t05> ompaul: Right
[12:36] <Seveas> indeed
[12:36] <YogSothoth> I really don't like the new human theme "glassy"
[12:36] <Kr4t05> ompaul: It's not in the Hoary repos
[12:36] <YogSothoth> (using dapper draker flightcd4 with latest updates)
[12:36] <Kr4t05> ompaul: I'll need to add universe and multiverse via terminal?
[12:36] <ompaul> Kr4t05, before I said that I said update to 5.10
[12:36] <humon> when i do "sudo mount -t smbfs //dimension/Media /mnt/DIMENSION/Media" i get an error saying "4167: session setup failed: ERRDOS - 71
[12:36] <humon> ". what am i doing wrong?
[12:36] <AndyR> Kr4t05, why are you still using hoary?
[12:37] <chuckyp> samIarent, what do you mean its doing nothing for you?
[12:37] <Kr4t05> AndyR: Old machine.
[12:37] <Kr4t05> !update
[12:37] <ubotu> Kr4t05: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:37] <chuckyp> samIarent, they have exact instructions and list which drivers to use and where to get them.
[12:37] <ompaul> Kr4t05, then your up to date before you start and all stuff is news
[12:37] <Kr4t05> !upgrade
[12:37] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to dapper remember it may break Please test the dist-upgrader -> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[12:37] <Kr4t05> There
[12:38] <ompaul> Kr4t05, msg the bot and the bot will msg you - but do the update from where you are now, if you go further you will have a lot more downloading then
[12:38] <AndyR> in my exp breezy runs better than hoary in old comps
[12:38] <Hi^gh^Life> I have the nforce410 chipset and I installed the new drivers from nvidea but my onboard sound still wont work    Would also having a Sound Blaster X-Fi inside this computer screw it up?
[12:38] <Hi^gh^Life> and if so how could i fix it?
[12:38] <samIarent> eh, so... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129445 -I hate to sound persistant, I realise that other people have problems to, but any suggestions?
[12:39] <Kr4t05> ...
[12:39] <ompaul> AndyR, the pendant in me says you should have said, "in my experiance 5.10 runs better on older hardware than 5.04, and it is big step up in performance"
[12:39] <Kr4t05> Ok
[12:39] <Kr4t05> Question
[12:40] <ompaul> Kr4t05, ask it - your just a spammer atm :)
[12:40] <AndyR> ompaul, thats what i meant :)
[12:40] <KsiLaptop> Hello, anyone have experience installing Ubuntu on an Adaptec 2010S ZCR RAID array?
[12:40] <Kr4t05> My printer is connected to a Windows machine, and I want to print something from my Kubuntu box, how to I get the shared printer to work?
[12:40] <chuckyp> samIarent, follow the ndiswrapper wiki.  But at a quick glance it appears that you are using the wrong commands first second it appears that the hardware is not being detected.
[12:40] <ompaul> Kr4t05,  offer it over samba
[12:40] <Kr4t05> ?
[12:40] <chuckyp> ubotu, tell Kr4t05 about samba
[12:40] <_epp> how would i get my dock apps to start on boot so i dont have to run them every time i start my computer?
[12:41] <Hi^gh^Life> any one know if the X-Fi would interfere with my onboard
[12:41] <KsiLaptop> I can load the i20_block driver and actually install it, however, when it gets to grub installing it can't find a BIOS entry or something.
[12:41] <mwe> Kr4t05: there is a great wiki on wiki.ubuntu.com explaining it
[12:41] <KsiLaptop> *i2o
[12:41] <miki1> hello everyone
[12:41] <Hi^gh^Life> i havent been able to get my sound working and i really need it
[12:41] <Luke> Hey guys. When I use the nvidia drivers and ubuntu stock kernel, if i exit X.org my framebuffer freezes with weird colors all over
[12:41] <Luke> anyone know how to fix this?
[12:41] <enrico_> Moinse
[12:41] <Kr4t05> ompaul: samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:41] <Cyorxamp> umm, something very bizzare happened earlier? seveas?
[12:42] <_epp> how would i get my dock apps to start on boot so i dont have to run them every time i start my computer?
[12:42] <KsiLaptop> anyone have experience installing Ubuntu on an Adaptec 2010S ZCR RAID array?
[12:42] <chuckyp> Luke, dont' exit X
[12:42] <Seveas> Cyorxamp, yes, very bizarre indeeed but please move on with life and forget it 
[12:42] <ompaul> Cyorxamp, network fell over
[12:42] <chuckyp> lol
[12:42] <odat> anyone able to help with a grub error 2 error
[12:42] <enrico_> ?? Germany Ubuntu Users ??
[12:42] <Cyorxamp> k
[12:42] <Luke> chuckyp: how will I use my framebuffer then?
[12:42] <Seveas> !de
[12:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:42] <ompaul> !de
[12:42] <Hi^gh^Life> would there be some kind of command that i would have to type in after i install the nvidea chipset drivers to start my sound?
[12:42] <chuckyp> Luke, I'm just messing with you there are fb settings you can pass.
[12:42] <HymnToLife> !de
[12:42] <pundai> hey, howcome suspend to disk doesnt restart my session on power up
[12:42] <th0rndike> w00t looks like it works
[12:42] <th0rndike> thx a lot man
[12:42] <ompaul> Kr4t05, why are you installing samba?
[12:43] <Luke> chuckyp: what'd you mean?
[12:43] <odat> anyone able to help with a grub error 2 error
[12:43] <Kr4t05> ompaul: For my printer
[12:43] <_epp> how would i get my dock apps to start on boot so i dont have to run them every time i start my computer?
[12:43] <ompaul> Kr4t05, you should be dist upgrading first
[12:43] <chuckyp> Luke, try putting vga=normal in your grub.conf
[12:43] <Luke> chuckyp: the weird thing is, if i use a custom kernel with the same exact X config then it works. it just doesnt like the stock kernel
[12:43] <Kr4t05> ompaul: No, this box is at 5.10
[12:43] <_epp> ompaul, what was the way you said to get my dock apps to start on boot?
[12:43] <ompaul> Kr4t05, okay
[12:43] <chuckyp> Luke, oh well I dunno then.
[12:43] <Luke> chuckyp: alrighty, that'll need a reboot though no?
[12:43] <HymnToLife> ompaul> to share files, most likely...
[12:43] <chuckyp> Luke, use the custom kernel
[12:44] <Luke> chuckyp: it has other problems tho... like i cant mount more than once per boot
[12:44] <Luke> chuckyp: i'd rather just stay in X than not be able to mount things =)
[12:44] <ompaul> _epp, system preferences sessions and the third tab
[12:44] <marc_> startkeylogger
[12:44] <samIarent> so I take it that I'm making some egregious oversight not worthy of response?
[12:44] <chuckyp> Luke, no i was kidding about the staying in x thing.  I thought I read about people putting vga=normal in there grub.conf for problems with fb and nvidia.  I could be wrong I would google it first.
[12:45] <mwe> Kr4t05: you don't need the samba server to access your windows printer
[12:45] <Luke> chuckyp: well that will still help. I need something new to google for =)
[12:45] <KsiLaptop> I'm thinking no one is dumb enough to actually use ubuntu for a mission-critical server...
[12:45] <Luke> chuckyp: thanks
[12:45] <Seveas> KsiLaptop, ubuntu is well suited for mission critical servers...
[12:45] <chuckyp> Luke, np i'm sure someone else has experienced your problem its just a matter of finding them.
[12:45] <_epp> ompaul, cant find that... im in fluxbox.
[12:45] <odat> anyone able to help with a grub error 2 error
[12:45] <FlannelKing> Anyone have any experience using libcaca?
[12:46] <mwe> Kr4t05: to fix your version problem, do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, probably
[12:46] <chuckyp> Luke, I used to have that issue with my laptop but after loading proper drivers for my card it went away.
[12:46] <ompaul> _epp, don't know fluxbox - that is not what I run on any of the machines here
[12:46] <KsiLaptop> Seveas: Then why can't I install it on a Supermicro Opteron 275 motherboard, with an Adaptec 2010S ZCR Card, and broadcom NetXtreme hardware without jumping through a crapload of hoops? Keep in mind this is for a client so I'm not doing this for myself.
[12:47] <Seveas> KsiLaptop, no idea
[12:47] <KsiLaptop> Seveas: Want to help then?
[12:47] <Luke> chuckyp: proper? you were using something wrong?
[12:47] <KsiLaptop> I seem to be ignored by everyone else.
[12:47] <Seveas> KsiLaptop, sure, be a bit more specific about the problems and maybe I can help
[12:47] <Kr4t05> mwe: How do I access my Windows printer without samba?
[12:47] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, do u know anything bout the gnome menu and/or the whole .desktop files thing?
[12:47] <_epp> anyone know fluxbox?
[12:47] <mwe> Kr4t05: there is a great wiki on wiki.ubuntu.com explaining it
[12:47] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, got a conundrum :P
[12:47] <samIarent> well, it's a channel with a lot of people...but I haven't gotten so much as a line of response </hypocrite>
[12:48] <chuckyp> Luke, It was really goofy with vesa drivers. and switching resolutions etc... it was flipping on my laptop's lcd.
[12:48] <HymnToLife> KsiLaptop> if no one answer maybe that's becaue no one knows the answer
[12:48] <KsiLaptop> Seveas: Ok, I can load the i2o_block module just fine, which lets me see the array, but once I try to install grub, it says there's no BIOS entry for the drive
[12:48] <mwe> Kr4t05: the server is for sharing linux to windows
[12:48] <mwe> Kr4t05: you need the client tools
[12:48] <cinder> samIarent, maybe no one knows the answer
[12:48] <_epp> anyone use flux box or any other kind of box?
[12:48] <cinder> HymnToLife, :(
[12:48] <cinder> HymnToLife, :)
[12:48] <Kr4t05> mwe: ?
[12:48] <samIarent> quite possible, but I think it a routine problem
[12:48] <Seveas> KsiLaptop, i2o support in Ubuntu pre-Dapper is very very flaky - that serious bug shoud be solved in Dapper
[12:49] <cinder> _epp, sed a lot flux, wassap?
[12:49] <Seveas> KsiLaptop, and yes, this is very annoying - I agree
[12:49] <mwe> Kr4t05: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for printing
[12:49] <samIarent> I'm merely asking for the right driver to install, or perhaps confirmation that my adapter/usb port is b0rked
[12:49] <HymnToLife> lol cinder :)
[12:49] <KsiLaptop> So, I should recommend CentOS to my client? Because this is kind of a show stopper.
[12:49] <Kr4t05> mwe: Yeah
[12:49] <_epp> cinder, ever ran wm dock apps?
[12:49] <Kr4t05> mwe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter << That?
[12:49] <Luke> chuckyp: weird. the thing is i'm using the regular nvidia drivers -  maybe i just need to reinstall them
[12:49] <Seveas> KsiLaptop, if it needs to be deployed now: definitely do not recommend Ubuntu
[12:49] <emanuel> rghfgh
[12:49] <KsiLaptop> Sounds good.
[12:50] <cwillu> for some reason, I had convinced myself a while back that i815 couldn't be accelerated on linux
[12:50] <cinder> _epp, like gkrellm?
[12:50] <cwillu> you have no idea (any of you) how much it tickles me to see antsearch running smoothly :)
[12:50] <johnny> hi i have a problem installing ubuntu i get this message during the install "there was a problem reading data from the CDROM" do you know
[12:50] <emanuel> no entiendo nada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:50] <johnny> how to solve it
[12:50] <ompaul> samIarent, I don't know the answer so I can't tell you but I don't say no cos that is spamming the channel, I don't do wireless (see I read it) I have one weak thing but I don;t think it is right so if you try it and it fails so be it, click on system - admin - networking and click on the card and tell it to activate but I don't think you need to do that - there ya go
[12:50] <samIarent> yes
[12:50] <Seveas> emanuel, english please
[12:50] <cinder> emanuel, q pasa papa
[12:50] <samIarent> it's not a clean burn
[12:50] <Seveas> cinder, english please
[12:50] <emanuel> q es esto???
[12:50] <ompaul> !es
[12:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:50] <_epp> cinder, i dunno... i just need these apps like wmwave, wmbatppc, etc. to run on boot.
[12:51] <cinder> Seveas, tried to help this dude
[12:51] <mwe> Kr4t05: yeah that one
[12:51] <_epp> cinder, otherwise i have to run them everytime i boot up my pc.
[12:51] <cinder> _epp, u have to create a file
[12:51] <cinder> in .fluxbox dir
[12:51] <cinder> name
[12:51] <Overand> I have a user who I added to a group, and a directory that is set properly (664)  *my* account can write to this directory, his can't, but when i do 'adduser hisusername thegroup' it informs me he's already a member.
[12:51] <HymnToLife> johnny> bad CD obvioulsy
[12:51] <HymnToLife> remember to md5sum the ISO before burning it
[12:51] <_epp> cinder, that does what?
[12:51] <ompaul> _epp, stick them in a script and call them when you launch your session
[12:51] <HymnToLife> and burn at low speeed
[12:51] <KsiLaptop> Seveas: Thanks for your help, I do appreciate it. I'm going to see if I can't get some Broadcom drivers installed for this NIC.
[12:51] <Seveas> Overand, you need 775, directories should be +x
[12:52] <Overand> Seveas: ah, I didn't know that.  let me check it
[12:52] <johnny> HymnTolife, i already did the md5sum and the cd was ok
[12:52] <cinder> i cannot remember the name
[12:52] <Overand> er, yeah, it's 775, my bad
[12:52] <Seveas> KsiLaptop, I have a broadcom netextreme on my laptop that works out of the box
[12:52] <cinder> ask in irc.freenode.net #fluxbox
[12:52] <chuckyp> Luke, I just thought of something else if ubuntu is using a graphical boot there are problems too
[12:52] <_epp> ompaul, have an example file?
[12:52] <Seveas> farous, we're a bit 'agitated' now, indeed
[12:52] <johnny> HymnTolife, nd that's the theird cd i'm burning
[12:52] <cyrain> greetings
[12:52] <Overand> Seveas: it's +x, right, +x is neccesary to get into the dir at all.  HE can read the files, but he can't create or modify any.
[12:53] <cyrain> can someone help me configure a vnc server
[12:53] <HymnToLife> johnny> did you md5sum the burned CD ?
[12:53] <cyrain> ?
[12:53] <KsiLaptop> Seveas: This is the 5700something
[12:53] <Overand> I've also closed down and re-opened the various instances of bash (inside screen)
[12:53] <HymnToLife> waybe it got corrupted during burning
[12:53] <Luke> chuckyp: AAAH! thats it!
[12:53] <odat> anyone able to help with a grub error 2 error
[12:53] <gnomefreak> did it lighten up any?
[12:53] <Luke> chuckyp: with my custom kernel i didnt have the graphical boot
[12:53] <johnny> HymnTolife, yep th burned cd
[12:53] <cyrain> I just want to change the resolution, all else works
[12:53] <Seveas> KsiLaptop, 0000:02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5705M_2 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 03)
[12:53] <Luke> chuckyp: you are a genious - i garuntee that is the problem
[12:53] <farous> Seveas: i hope all is well i know there are always ops but first seen you all at once and setting yourselves as ops. Won't talk about it anymore :)
[12:53] <mwe> Overand: and 'groups' as that user confirms that he is a member?
[12:53] <HymnToLife> funny...
[12:53] <farous> so who was asking for fluxbox
[12:53] <KsiLaptop> Seveas: Well damn. This is on a Supermicro motherboard.
[12:54] <_epp> farous, me.
[12:54] <farous> _epp: what do you want to do with it
[12:54] <HymnToLife> seems silly but did you check if it's clean (fingrprints and such) ?
[12:54] <Seveas> lemme check my supermicro
[12:54] <Overand> mwe: that's odd, it doesn't show him there when he runs 'groups'
[12:54] <Overand> let me re-add
[12:54] <chuckyp> Luke, yeah i just remembered while out smoking I had the same problem with fedora's graphical boot messing up fb
[12:54] <_epp> farous, i have some dockapps that i need to be ran evertime i boot so i dont have to run them... i just want them to be there when i start fluxbox.
[12:54] <Seveas> ah, that's intel  nvm
[12:54] <ompaul> _epp, first line #!/bin/sh second line command you want run third another one and so on then you call it "my.sh" or something you can even call it "evilfred" and then you run the command chmod 744 evilfred and then well you type ./evilfred when you log into your session
[12:54] <mwe> Overand: you need to log him out and back in
[12:54] <johnny> HymnTolife, yeah i didi check to see if it was clean, i think the prob come from the installer
[12:55] <Overand> mwe: all of his various logins, incl. inside irssi etc?
[12:55] <Overand> will do
[12:55] <farous> _epp open .fluxbox dir and there is a startup file
[12:55] <johnny> HymnTolife, beacause i have the same prob with debian
[12:55] <_epp> farous, thanks.
[12:55] <cyrain> no takers ;) ?
[12:55] <HymnToLife> that would be the first time I see it...
[12:55] <farous> _epp: just add them there do not forget the & at the end of each command
[12:55] <HymnToLife> so maybe it's a problem with your drive
[12:55] <ompaul> !refresh
[12:55] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[12:55] <HymnToLife> did you try another one ?
[12:56] <ompaul> !resolution
[12:56] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:56] <ompaul> cyrain, ^^
[12:56] <cyrain> yes !
[12:56] <_epp> farous, where is fluxbox loacted?
[12:56] <johnny> HymnTolife, this is my third dvd
[12:56] <jonolsonroll2000> Got to love ubotu ;)
[12:56] <cyrain> thx
[12:56] <cyrain> I'll have a lok
[12:56] <_epp> farous, usr/share/fluxbox?
[12:56] <farous> _epp do you mean the .fluxbox hidden dir
[12:56] <farous> _epp depend how you insalled it
[12:57] <HymnToLife> ubotu rocks :p
[12:57] <Kr4t05> mwe: The printer on my Windows box is a Lexmark z611, it isn't on the list here. :/
[12:57] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[12:57] <_epp> farous, aprt
[12:57] <_epp> apt
[12:57] <HymnToLife> johnny> well I really don't know then...
[12:57] <johnny> HymnTolife, ok thanks anyway
[12:57] <Overand> mwe: that worked, thanks
[12:57] <farous> _epp dpkg -L fluxbox  use tab completition for ver. will tell you where everything is
[12:57] <jonolsonroll2000> I have one of those no linux driver printers :(  It's my new paperweight ;)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Seveas: is your server down or is it just me? its timing out
[12:57] <mwe> Overand: yw
[12:57] <cyrain> -->ubotu
[12:57] <Seveas> gnomefreak, which?
[12:57] <cyrain> doesn't help much
[12:58] <cyrain> the ubuntu is a server without a screen but I setted up Xorg anyway for remote admin via vnc
[12:58] <mwe> !tell Kr4t05 about printing
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Seveas: users.lichtsnel.nl breezy-seveas
[12:58] <mwe> Kr4t05: look through that
[12:58] <Seveas> gnomefreak, that mirror seems down indeed - pick another
[12:58] <Kr4t05> mwe: I already looked. It's not there.
[12:59] <NRG88> hi, the network monitor shows 0, why?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ok ty sir
[12:59] <NRG88> i'm using gnome
[12:59] <Kr4t05> mwe: Looks like I'm fucked either way.
[12:59] <ompaul> cyrain, then its vnc not X you want to talk about
[12:59] <Kr4t05> great
[12:59] <ompaul> Kr4t05, langauge
[12:59] <NRG88> but firestarter shows the network usage
[12:59] <Cyorxamp> Kr4t05, ignore ompaul  :P
[12:59] <Kr4t05> ompaul: Sorry.
[12:59] <_epp> farous, fluxbox.cat?
[12:59] <NRG88> the internet is on eth0
[12:59] <jonolsonroll2000> Hmm, something weird here.  The Wizard for creating a letter freezes OpenOffice.
[01:00] <farous> _epp just tell me exactly in detail what you want to do so i can be of more help
[01:00] <NRG88> anyone can help me with the networkmonitor?
[01:00] <ompaul> Kr4t05, have a look at the web pages the bot has send again, they are usually okay
[01:00] <_epp> farous, just want these apps to start with fluxbox
[01:01] <Auckland_Pig>  Please help. I have sound card problems... I can play music and watch movies well. But cant change the volume in task bar...
[01:02] <Munchkinguy> Hello
[01:02] <mkane12> hey....i'm new to linux. can anybod help me with some commands to get started?
[01:02] <farous> _epp and i told you how to do it. Open <nautilus> then press <ctrl H >to see hidden files. Goto <.fluxbox> dir. AS you are there click on <startup> file
[01:02] <_epp> kk
[01:02] <jonolsonroll2000> mkane12, What do you mean?  Like common commands?
[01:02] <ompaul> mkane12, have a look at http://docs.ubuntu.com
[01:03] <mkane12> ompaul thanx
[01:03] <ompaul> mkane12, np
[01:03] <farous> _epp: then look at the file and follwo the examples. Ex to add <gaim> add a line <gaim &>
[01:03] <Munchkinguy> Could someone tell me what to type in the terminal to install a printer? For example, in Red Hat, you type "redhat-config-printer-gui"
[01:03] <ompaul> Munchkinguy, you got a gui?
[01:03] <Auckland_Pig>  Please help. I have sound card problems... I can play music and watch movies well. But cant change the volume in task bar...
[01:04] <Munchkinguy> I'll be using Xubuntu
[01:04] <_epp> there is no startup in "/home/epp/.fluxbox"
[01:04] <farous> Munchkinguy: gnome-cups-manager
[01:04] <ompaul> Munchkinguy, right click on the desktop and choose the printer tools from there
[01:05] <farous> _epp ok wait will tell you where to get the startup script
[01:05] <cyrain> -->ompaul
[01:05] <ompaul> Munchkinguy, under setup
[01:05] <QMario> Hello ompaul, Seveas, tritium, and Ubugtu!!! ;)
[01:05] <_epp> farous, ok thx sorry for the hassle
[01:05] <cyrain> I chatted with the bot but got not much help :)
[01:05] <_epp> !ubotu
[01:05] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:05] <Munchkinguy> ompaul: I remember the last time I did that (I'm not using Xubuntu now), there was no "add new printer" button.
[01:06] <QMario> Ompaul, where are you?
[01:06] <ompaul> Munchkinguy, there is a setup tools
[01:06] <odat> anyone able to help with a grub error
[01:06] <odat> anyone able to help with a grub error 2
[01:06] <ompaul> QMario, not now its been a lonnng day
[01:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell odat about grub
[01:07] <farous> epp_ that is really strnage it should have been generated when you first run fluxbox
[01:07] <_epp> farous,,, yeah its not there...
[01:07] <sohmc_windows> I've been having a terrible day...I've been trying to get firefox working correctly to no avail...
[01:07] <jonolsonroll2000> Hmm, where is the config file to change what I want to start up when gnome starts?
[01:07] <jonolsonroll2000> sohmc_windows, What's wrong with Firefox?
[01:08] <sohmc_windows> I'm getting a segmentation fault when I try to start firefox.  Doing a search told me the problem with SCIM, but I don't have it installed...at least from what I can tell
[01:08] <farous> _epp: can you type this command in a terminal < locate fluxbox |grep start
[01:08] <ompaul> sohmc_windows, u using dapper?
[01:08] <Elad_> !tell me about internet
[01:08] <sohmc_windows> ompaul:: dapper?  I don't know what that is but I'll check...
[01:08] <jonolsonroll2000> He means..the dapper version of Ubuntu
[01:08] <jonolsonroll2000> The beta Ubuntu if you will.
[01:08] <_epp> farous, /usr/share/man/man1/startfluxbox.1.gz
[01:08] <_epp> /usr/bin/startfluxbox
[01:09] <sohmc_windows> jonolsonroll2000:: thanks
[01:09] <sohmc_windows> ompaul:: no, I'm using badger
[01:09] <gnomefreak> sohmc_windows: lsb_release -a will tell you what your on
[01:09] <ompaul> sohmc_windows, if you have to ask your not :-) what happend to your firefox did you try to upgrade it or something
[01:09] <Elad_> HELP this is the first time I am using my laptop where there is no router and I just found up - I have NO idea how to connect to the net (where do I insert username and password)!!!
[01:10] <farous> epp than you should create the file yourself. I will give you a post of my file on the pastebin look through it if you want
[01:10] <wd3> hey everyone i just installed ubuntu and during loading for the first time it's asking for username and pass well after i put in the info it stays at root $ why?
[01:10] <_epp> ok thx
[01:10] <_epp> farous, ok thx
[01:10] <farous> !pastebin
[01:10] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:10] <sohmc_windows> ompaul:: well, both the on-board firefox is not working as well as a freshly downloaded version
[01:10] <wd3> holycow what's up
[01:10] <sohmc_windows> both are giving me segemtnation faults
[01:10] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[01:10] <jonolsonroll2000> wd3, What kernel are you booting?
[01:10] <ruzgar> hello
[01:10] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:10] <ruzgar> !root
[01:10] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:10] <holycow> wd3, lunch, u?
[01:10] <holycow> ;)
[01:10] <jonolsonroll2000> wd3, Because if you boot...the recovery mode kernel, You'll automatically be .. root.
[01:11] <wd3> same
[01:11] <sohmc_windows> thanks ubotu...I'm talking about both the installed version (1.0.7) as well as the new version
[01:11] <farous> _epp i compiled fluxbox myself did not like how slow the one in the repos is. I think also i made some custom stuff in it that might explain why you do not have startup script
[01:11] <Elad_> I NEED HELP this is the first time I am using my laptop where there is no router and I just found up - I have NO idea how to connect to the net (where do I insert username and password)!!!
[01:11] <holycow> sticking with ubuntu i guess?
[01:11] <jonolsonroll2000> Elad_, Elaborate more, what about your internet?  how are you connecting? etc etc.
[01:12] <_epp> yeah... is it better to compile yuor own?
[01:12] <wd3> holycow, yes, dual boot
[01:12] <holycow> looks like you got that working :)
[01:12] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, how does one play a video clip?  Ive tried totem, and amaroK, they both give me errors.
[01:12] <holycow> Elad_, what do you mean about inserting password?
[01:12] <whiter> hello
[01:13] <sohmc_windows> FlannelKing:: have you tried xine or mplayer?
[01:13] <Elad_> holycow,  jonolsonroll2000, with pleasure but I have no idea what info to give. I'm at a friend's place, there's  ADSL and I need to connect somehow
[01:13] <ompaul> sohmc_windows, that is the only way to do it, let me point you to another doc http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic
[01:13] <wd3> holycow yes and no. i've been through alot. i've been to suse , kubuntu and back to ubuntu and still lexmark printer won't work.
[01:13] <whiter> how can i delete an item off the gnome Applications menu?
[01:13] <holycow> wd3, i'll just leave it at ditch the lexmark and get a supported hp
[01:14] <FlannelKing> sohmc_windows: no, do they use gstreamer?  Im ultimately trying to use libcaca, so I can watch video over SSH, but its difficult finding any documentation on any of these players
[01:14] <farous> _epp: do you have a fluxbox in your bin
[01:14] <_epp> farous, yes,
[01:14] <holycow> Elad_, how is your friend connected to adsl? does he have a router? if not only one person at a time can connect
[01:14] <farous> _epp: type which fluxbox
[01:14] <heatxsink> anyone in here know how to get my firewire port working on my Sound Blaster Audigy Card?
[01:14] <sohmc_windows> ompaul:: firefox was working briefly before it crashed...now it no longer starts up
[01:14] <wd3> holycow ur right i will
[01:14] <ompaul> Elad_, so you stick the ethernet cable in the back of the lappy/side/top and then you run "sudo dhcpclient" and then you are online
[01:14] <WoC> any suggestions on how to swap my fb0 and fb1 ?
[01:14] <farous> _epp: and tell me what you get
[01:15] <ompaul> sohmc_windows, did you read that url about updateing it ?
[01:15] <sohmc_windows> FlannelKing:: I'm not sure what gstreamer is...
[01:15] <KentJonathan> Hello
[01:15] <ompaul> !anyone
[01:15] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[01:15] <_epp> /usr/bin/fluxbox
[01:15] <sohmc_windows> ompaul:: I'm sorry if I'm not understanding your question.  Update what?  Firefox?  Ubuntu?
[01:15] <farous> _epp: great ok
[01:15] <Elad_> ompaul, holycow I'll try dhcpclient (just for the general info - is there gnome gui for that?)
[01:15] <_epp> farous, ok.
[01:15] <holycow> Elad_, i recommend answering my question first
[01:16] <ompaul> sohmc_windows, the one on how to update your firefox
[01:16] <wd3> holycow i want to use a harddrive for my daughter win box, how do i reformat linux because when i boot linux comes up even with 98 cd and disk
[01:16] <sohmc_windows> ompaul:: oh yes...I've updated firefox using the methods prescribed
[01:17] <farous> _epp i modified it to my best. When you see a <#> it means the line is commented. Look at the section where it say applications i want to start when i start fluxbox and here is the post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9735
[01:17] <ompaul> sohmc_windows, then something else is the issue - wht it is I have no idea
[01:17] <holycow> wd3, depends how you want to configure your system.  the drive that you boot off of needs to have grub and grub needs to know where windows is and where linux is
[01:17] <sohmc_windows> ompaul:: well, what is SDIC?
[01:17] <Elad_> holycow, sorry for that - ompaul gave a lead... he has no router and I'm currently using his XP desktop... after trying to plug my ubuntu and discovering I've never tried to connect where there is no router which is already connected b4...
[01:17] <sohmc_windows> sorry...SCIM
[01:17] <gnomefreak> sohmc_windows: did you run the touch command when you installed ff1.5?
[01:17] <_epp> farous, ok thx.
[01:18] <geneo93> windows will remove grub
[01:18] <ompaul> sohmc_windows, I only know so much and sdic is outside of my knowedge base
[01:18] <holycow> Elad_, no router then only one system can use the adsl connection at a time.
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ompaul: he meant scim
[01:18] <sohmc_windows> gnomefreak:: touch?  no
[01:18] <holycow> Elad_, you can setup xp to be your router but i refuse to help anyone with windows
[01:18] <farous> _epp: try it and tell me what yo get. You might need to edit your fluxbox startup script but lets just hope it will work as is
[01:18] <ompaul> http://www.scim-im.org/
[01:18] <gnomefreak> hold on let me see if i have it
[01:18] <sohmc_windows> ompaul:: okay
[01:19] <ompaul> night all
[01:19] <sohmc_windows> gnomefreak:: what do I need to touch?
[01:19] <geneo93> nite
[01:19] <wd3> holycow i mean i want to use the harddrive on a sep computer but install win for my daughter but the linux on the hd still bootup, how can i erase?
[01:19] <Auckland_Pig>  Please help. I have sound card problems... I can play music and watch movies well. But cant change the volume in task bar...
[01:19] <holycow> wd3, you need to delete the boot partition and let windows install its own bootloader
[01:20] <holycow> wd3, i would recommend reformatting entire hd, reinstalling windows, it will put its own bootloader in there
[01:20] <Elad_> holycow, I can unplug his machine. no prob. only need to know how to connect mine... (it's not much use having ubuntu connected and a user who can't make his way to the connecting software, is there...)
[01:20] <HymnToLife> have you tried with Kmix ? (or whatever the hell the sound mixer is named in gnome) ?
[01:20] <holycow> thats the easiest way
[01:20] <geneo93> wd3:  what windows version you have to install
[01:20] <gnomefreak> sohmc_windows: nm they pulled it off the site (not sure why)
[01:20] <holycow> Elad_, just reset your your ethernet card then ... you can do it from systm / admin / networking
[01:21] <sohmc_windows> gnomefreak:: okay
[01:21] <holycow> Elad_, its not picking up the ip address assigned by your isp ... also edit your ethernet card to use dhcp please
[01:21] <holycow> Elad_, additionally you may need to check with your friend, our telco isp here requires that a mac address be registered before you get free access to the net
[01:21] <wd3> geneo93 i just want to delete the linux then i'll use ghost to copy a previous xp from a sep hd
[01:21] <holycow> you want to make sure there are no similar obstructions to services
[01:22] <rubem> how to mount my windows drive?
[01:22] <HymnToLife> !drives
[01:22] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[01:22] <holycow> rubem, google that please, there are answers everywhere
[01:22] <Zarephath> rubem: NTFS filesystem?
[01:22] <rubem> yes
[01:22] <HymnToLife> !ntfs
[01:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:22] <geneo93> wd3:  then you need a something like boot disk for win98 to fdisk it
[01:22] <HymnToLife> \o/
[01:23] <geneo93> bootdisk.com will give you that
[01:23] <wd3> geneo  i put in the win98 cd and the linux takes over still.
[01:23] <Zarephath> rubem: One way is mount -t ntfs /dev/<your device and partition) /mnt/<the directory I make>
[01:24] <gnomefreak> xp install cd can do it also
[01:24] <wd3> geneo thanx
[01:24] <Elad_> holycow, b4 I unplug the XP machine I need to b sure I know what I am doing. ompaul suggested dhcpclient. I only find a dhclient. I didn't quite understand your instructions... on an XP machine I would have entered a Username and a PW. what do I need to do in ubuntu?
[01:24] <rajan> ?????????????
[01:24] <jonolsonroll2000> I made my own script to mount my windows partition ;) Tis so easy to type in sh mountwindows.sh
[01:24] <geneo93> wd3 maybe its not set in bios to boot cdrom first
[01:24] <holycow> Elad_, why do you care about the xp machine? your trying to connect the xp to your ubuntu box? what?
[01:25] <rajan> gta lcs
[01:25] <holycow> Elad_, unplug xp machine, plug yours in, reset ethernet card, surf.  whats the problem?
[01:25] <tinkerbell> hello
[01:25] <rajan> hello
[01:25] <holycow> Elad_, when your done, unplug ubuntu, plugin xp machine, done
[01:25] <wd3> geneo93 yes, it is, i made sure of it. i'll check again
[01:25] <holycow> Elad_, no thinking involved
[01:25] <tinkerbell> what`s up?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> Elad_: we talking dial-up or dsl/cable
[01:26] <geneo93> wd3 then it maybe an upgrade disk then
[01:26] <tinkerbell> hello?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> hi
[01:26] <Zarephath> howdy
[01:26] <axisys> hi all
[01:26] <tinkerbell> what is this all about?
[01:26] <Zarephath> axisys: yo
[01:26] <gnomefreak> tinkerbell: this is a support channel for ubuntu linux
[01:27] <HymnToLife> thus the name #ubuntu, eh :p
[01:27] <tinkerbell> what is that?
[01:27] <wd3> geneo93 brb
[01:27] <Elad_> holycow, tried that b4 - could b I don't know how to resent the ethernet card... but as far as I know the internet provider requires some UN and PW... I couldn't find where to give those (in network-admin). gnomefreak adsl
[01:27] <_epp> farous, nope... didnt work...
[01:27] <Elad_> gnomefreak, adsl
[01:27] <Elad_> gnomefreak, no router
[01:27] <Zarephath> HymnToLife: Just can't be real...can it?  :|
[01:27] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:28] <farous> _epp: type ls -l /usr/bin/fluxbox
[01:28] <tinkerbell> what am I supposed to do
[01:28] <tinkerbell> ?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Elad_: you cna only hook one pc up at a time without a router
[01:28] <HymnToLife> try pppoeconf Elad_
[01:28] <Unity> hey you know how some wmv files make you download spyware and adware, those malicious programs can't affect me if i play thru mpalyer, rightL
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Elad_: if you unplug one plug other one in it should be all good
[01:28] <farous> _epp: and use the pastebin to send me your startup file. let me have a look at it
[01:28] <_epp> kk
[01:28] <Zarephath> Only if its the windows version...
[01:28] <_epp> farous, is the filename supposed to be startup?
[01:28] <holycow> Unity, correct, although thats news to me that wmv files can get a player to download malicious software
[01:28] <farous> _epp: yes
[01:28] <tinkerbell> I am like so in wrong place or I mean I have no clue what to do!
[01:29] <Elad_> gnomefreak, what about UN and PW which R asked in XP?
[01:29] <Unity> holycow: thanks
[01:29] <tinkerbell> help me?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> tinkerbell: what kind of channel are you looking for?
[01:29] <HymnToLife> how did you get here tinkerbell ?
[01:29] <Zarephath> tinkerbell: type this and you can leave... /part #ubuntu
[01:29] <holycow> tinkerbell, what are you trying to do? are you even using ubuntu? why are you here?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> Elad_: ubuntu is not xp :)
[01:29] <farous> _epp: and you need ot set it as an executable file
[01:29] <tinkerbell> what is a channel
[01:29] <paulthompson949> hello.... i was wondering if anyone can give me a tutorial on how to install applications on ubuntu
[01:29] <gnomefreak> channel is a chat room in a way
[01:29] <_epp> how?
[01:29] <_epp> farous, how?
[01:29] <tinkerbell> I have no clue
[01:29] <Unity> holycow: and even it did download malicious programs, they wont run on linux, right?
[01:29] <HymnToLife> paulthompson949> google certainly can
[01:29] <holycow> Unity, of course not
[01:30] <paulthompson949> ok... LoL
[01:30] <farous> paulthompson949: type synaptic in a terminal. It is a gui to do that
[01:30] <tinkerbell> I have the program on my computer
[01:30] <Unity> why am i in #ubuntu-unregged, i have registered and identified...
[01:30] <tinkerbell> but that`s all I know
[01:30] <Zarephath> tinkerbell: First thing to do is decide what subject matter you wan't to talk about and then go to that channel(chat area)
[01:30] <gnomefreak> i have a few of them (what program)
[01:30] <holycow> paulthompson949, no one will hold your hand through such a thing.  google for ubuntu and synaptic
[01:30] <paulthompson949> ok
[01:30] <tinkerbell> o so what ru talking about?
[01:31] <farous> _epp: right click with the mouse on it <select properties> then <permissions>  then set it as executable
[01:31] <redrose> what is the package name for the C library call's, I.E. man 3 printf
[01:31] <gnomefreak> tinkerbell: if your not having problems with ubuntu please type /part #ubuntu
[01:31] <paulthompson949> also... i am having trouble with my g++ compiler in unix
[01:31] <Elad_> gnomefreak, my experience says the same, which is why I stick with ubuntu for the last few months (first time out of XP) but still - when I tried just plugging in I didn't get any network, no pinging...
[01:31] <_epp> kk
[01:31] <tinkerbell> part#ubuntu
[01:31] <Zarephath> tinkerbell: Ever heard of a operating system called linux? Well we use a specific version of it..and we gather here to chat and get help and learn
[01:31] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> you're not having problems, do you ? So just get the hell out :D
[01:31] <HymnToLife> jk ;)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:32] <redrose> what is the package name for the C library call's, I.E. man 3 printf
[01:32] <gnomefreak> i have to be nice
[01:32] <tinkerbell> I have linux I think
[01:32] <geneo93> tinkerbell:  you have balls
[01:32] <tinkerbell> huh?
[01:32] <Zarephath> It is just a cruel fsking joke that is what it is...heh  :)
[01:32] <_epp> farous, nautilus ownt run...
[01:32] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:33] <tinkerbell> I am confussed
[01:33] <farous> _epp: post your file let me look at it
[01:33] <Elad_> gnomefreak, well..?
[01:33] <_epp> kk
[01:33] <farous> _epp: seems you did not put the & at the end
[01:33] <tinkerbell> ?????????????????????????????????
[01:33] <tinkerbell> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:33] <ubotu> tinkerbell: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:33] <Gnumannen> I need helvetica to run a program, how do I get it?
[01:33] <geneo93> tinkerbell:  type this in terminal uname -a
[01:33] <holycow> tinkerbell, so what do you want to know actually?
[01:33] <HymnToLife> Elad_> did you run pppeoconf ?
[01:33] <redrose> what is the package name for the C library call's, I.E. man 3 printf?
[01:34] <HymnToLife> !fonts
[01:34] <ubotu> fonts is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[01:34] <tinkerbell> what are yal talking about?
[01:34] <iceman> anyone know why my isp ping would run absoulty wild ....
[01:34] <farous> _epp: i haven't got much time so will be here for about 5-8 min then i am sure someone else can help
[01:34] <tinkerbell> I don`t speak computer language
[01:34] <farous> !tell _epp about fluxbox
[01:34] <_epp> k
[01:34] <HymnToLife> for the millionth time, this chat room is about Ubuntu Linux
[01:34] <tinkerbell> that much
[01:35] <Gnumannen> HymnToLife, I know how to install a font, but not how to get it.
[01:35] <Unity> redrose: please do not repeat your question every few minutes. if no one has answered, that means no one knows or no one is willing to answer
[01:35] <HymnToLife> hmm
[01:35] <holycow> tinkerbell, you can go to chat on lots of other channels you know
[01:35] <HymnToLife> just copy the font file from a Windows box
[01:35] <redrose> kk
[01:35] <Gnumannen> HymnToLife, okey.
[01:35] <tinkerbell> ok fine which one?
[01:35] <iceman> what would cause the ping rate to run wild ... and very varied .... not constant ...
[01:35] <gnomefreak> Elad_: are you using gnome?
[01:35] <Gnumannen> HymnToLife, thank you :)
[01:35] <Elad_> HymnToLife, not yet - all I have to do is plug and run it (will it b asking for the UN and PW)
[01:35] <holycow> tinkerbell, thats up to you, i'm a computer person, i only care about computers
[01:36] <HymnToLife> yes it will
[01:36] <tinkerbell> ok be mean!
[01:36] <_epp> farous, screw it... i will just run them everytime.
[01:36] <farous> _epp: ok
[01:36] <Elad_> gnomefreak, have been... now I'm trying fluxbox (Oh god... I hope u don'y hate that as well...)
[01:36] <tinkerbell> ?
[01:36] <gnomefreak> Elad_: i use fluxbox sometimes but ther eis a nice networking tool in gnome
[01:37] <caro__> what do i need to read .mkv files ?
[01:37] <_epp> gnomefreak, the tools shows up in fluxbox...
[01:37] <HymnToLife> indeed
[01:37] <HymnToLife> I'm more a KDE user but I also have gnome installed for the networking tool :D
[01:37] <holycow> tinkerbell, how did you end up in this channel? what did you click on?
[01:37] <HymnToLife> and Synaptic
[01:37] <gnomefreak> _epp: yes i knwo but under a different name
[01:37] <farous> gnomefreak: what is the name of the tools in gnome
[01:37] <gnomefreak> networking :)
[01:37] <_epp> gnomefreak, Network Admin
[01:38] <intelikey> quick question about .Xresources > xterm/rxvt     anyone know the way to specify window size ?
[01:38] <Elad_> gnomefreak, network-admin? I couldn't find where to enter the UN & PW. I guess I'll give HymnToLife  pppoeconf a try
[01:38] <gnomefreak> Elad_: look through your menu in flux nad see if you find a gnome networking or somethng like that
[01:38] <gnomefreak> Elad_: with dsl you dont need to add that
[01:38] <_epp> Elad_, look for 'Network Admin'
[01:38] <gnomefreak> Elad_: dsl your always connected
[01:39] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> some people do
[01:39] <HymnToLife> depends how his network is set up
[01:39] <iceman> wish i could find out how to adjust my isp settings .... the ping rate is running wild .....
[01:39] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: shouldnt it prompt him than?
[01:39] <HymnToLife> dunno, I'm on dialup :D
[01:39] <Elad_> gnomefreak,  I don't know how it is called - this is israel... they can b calling it one thing while it is another... I NEED a UN&PW
[01:39] <HymnToLife> but I've that on some boards uite often
[01:39] <_epp> dialup is for poor people.
[01:39] <_epp> jk jhk
[01:40] <_epp> more like collage students.
[01:40] <iceman> im on high speed wireless
[01:40] <HymnToLife> _epp> or for people living in crappy places where there is no dsl :p
[01:40] <Elad_> gnomefreak, gnome-admin is in the FB menus and can b ran from the term. still it won't connect me.
[01:40] <_epp> im on 10Mbit
[01:40] <Mastastealth> hey, i just popped in a new NIC on my ubuntu server, how do i use and activate it through console?
[01:41] <HymnToLife> Elad_> just try pppoeconf, it can't hurt anyway :p
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Elad_: when you open it does it say network settings at the top of the box?
[01:41] <Elad_> gnomefreak, HymnToLife I guess I try the pppoconf, hoping the nxt time I'll b here will from ubuntu...
[01:41] <Mastastealth> i know in gnome i go to system-prefrences-network, slect it, enable, DHCP, and then activate
[01:41] <Mastastealth> how do i do that in console?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Mastastealth: applications>accessories>termional
[01:42] <gnomefreak> terminal
[01:42] <HymnToLife> Mastastealth> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[01:42] <_epp> hahahahaha
[01:42] <HymnToLife> lol gnomefreak
[01:42] <sinaduel> I have a problem with flash player on firefox, it doesn't show writing
[01:42] <gnomefreak> Mastastealth: i would hope that metwork isnt in prefferences
[01:42] <sixtymhz> Is there a way to configure touchpad on a laptop?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> funny*
[01:43] <HymnToLife> !touchpad
[01:43] <ubotu> HymnToLife: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:43] <Mastastealth> gnome: i dont remember atm...i just know its in the system menu ;) but this server runs in console-mode
[01:43] <Unity> where do i add a blind-carbon-copy in evolution mail?
[01:43] <Mastastealth> what to I add Hymn?
[01:43] <Mastastealth> map eth1?
[01:43] <HymnToLife> Mastastealth> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[01:43] <Mastastealth> and then iface eth1 inet dhcp?
[01:43] <HymnToLife> wait a sec
[01:44] <KentJonathan> hello one people can help me
[01:44] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[01:44] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:44] <Mastastealth> Kent: the question is? ;)
[01:44] <HymnToLife> yep Mastastealth
[01:45] <KentJonathan> Mastatealth wat is the forms for chat in irc?
[01:45] <Mastastealth> ok Hymn...
[01:45] <KentJonathan> but not X-chat
[01:45] <Mastastealth> forms for chat?
[01:45] <KentJonathan> he dont have another?
[01:45] <Mastastealth> u can use GAIM
[01:45] <KentJonathan> No.. to join to irc
[01:45] <Mastastealth> yea, GAIM can do irc too
[01:45] <KentJonathan> he have proteccion?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> KentJonathan: if you have ubuntu you dont need to fill out forms
[01:45] <KentJonathan> because i want to load remotes..
[01:46] <HymnToLife> mIRC through WINE :D
[01:46] <sixtymhz> ew.
[01:46] <gnomefreak> mIRc is a waste of money
[01:46] <HymnToLife> lmao
[01:46] <ruzgar> !totem
[01:46] <ubotu> ruzgar: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:46] <KentJonathan> mIRC is not avaible to Ubuntu
[01:46] <ruzgar> hello
[01:46] <HymnToLife> !wine
[01:46] <gnomefreak> KentJonathan: hes running it on wine
[01:46] <ruzgar> how can i install plugins to totem
[01:46] <ruzgar> ?
[01:46] <HymnToLife> i'm not :p
[01:47] <HymnToLife> but I know it works fine
[01:47] <ruzgar> i cant find the plugins menu
[01:47] <KentJonathan> gomefreak the mIRC is not avaible to ubuntu or yes ? :S
[01:47] <HymnToLife> !wine
[01:47] <gnomefreak> KentJonathan: it is as a .exe you will need wine to run it in linux
[01:47] <HymnToLife> damn bot
[01:47] <ruzgar> you can work with wine
[01:47] <HymnToLife> well, wine is a kind of Windows emulator
[01:47] <jonolsonroll2000> KentJonathan, Not nativel.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell KentJonathan about wine
[01:48] <curley_sue> gnomefreak, HymnToLife I used to b elad... it was the pppoeconf afterall (which apparently I tried b4 adking u only I used the wrong UN) 4 the record - what's the GUI for that? and... thanx a lot!!!
[01:48] <jonolsonroll2000> natively*
[01:48] <KentJonathan> what is wine?
[01:48] <ruzgar> i'll try and it works
[01:48] <Mastastealth> Wine is not an Emulator
[01:48] <ruzgar> a program
[01:48] <Mastastealth> ;)
[01:48] <Unity> KentJonathan: windows emusator
[01:48] <sethk> KentJonathan, comes out of a bottle
[01:48] <gnomefreak> glad to see it working curley_sue
[01:48] <ruzgar> for runnig windows programs
[01:48] <jonolsonroll2000> KentJonathan, Wine is a program to run Windows programs ;)
[01:48] <_JECKEL_> hey guys
[01:48] <KentJonathan> for the .exe?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> wine is in you pm kent
[01:48] <Unity> wow if only i got that many answers for every question i asked
[01:48] <sethk> well, ok, it's that windows thing too ...
[01:48] <ruzgar> yes
[01:48] <_JECKEL_> how would I move a whole host of files to a directory?
[01:48] <jonolsonroll2000> KentJonathan, yes.
[01:48] <HymnToLife> curley_sue> no GUI I think
[01:48] <jonolsonroll2000> Unity, Tis because that question was easy. ;)
[01:48] <_JECKEL_> through terminal
[01:48] <KentJonathan> where i can download the program?
[01:49] <ruzgar> but sometimes it doesnt work properly
[01:49] <_JECKEL_> mv *.* <directory> ?
[01:49] <Mastastealth> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:49] <gnomefreak> KentJonathan: look in your pm
[01:49] <curley_sue> gnomefreak, HymnToLife I would also appreciate it if u could tell me what script runs when I logoff (I'm trying to set so logoff for the fluxbox)
[01:49] <Auckland_Pig>  Please help. I have sound card problems... I can play music and watch movies well. But cant change the volume in task bar...
[01:49] <Auckland_Pig> ubotu: tell me about sound
[01:49] <gnomefreak> Mastastealth: i di=ont remember wine being in the offical repos
[01:49] <HymnToLife> Mastastealth> yeah like LAME Ain't mp3 encoder eh ? :p
[01:49] <Mastastealth> should be in universe
[01:49] <HymnToLife> but what the hell is it then ? I've always wondered
[01:49] <_JECKEL_> ....
[01:49] <curley_sue> HymnToLife, in Flux it's in the menu (apps->system->pppo
[01:49] <_JECKEL_> :(
[01:49] <Mastastealth> exactly Hymn ^_^
[01:49] <_JECKEL_> guess i'll try on my own. :(
[01:49] <ablyss> _JECKEL_, mv "*" "other directory"
[01:50] <_JECKEL_> ok
[01:50] <hyperstream> bugger: /dev/hda2             265M  255M     0 100% /   <-- how can i do a search for large file sizes so i could remove anything that i dont require ?
[01:50] <ruzgar> i anybody knows how can i install plugins to totem ?
[01:50] <jonolsonroll2000> gnomefreak, I don't think it is, it might be, but I just added the Wine repo.
[01:50] <gnomefreak> it is :(
[01:50] <ruzgar> i cant find menu
[01:50] <_JECKEL_> thnx Ablyss
[01:50] <ruzgar> !totem
[01:50] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ruzgar
[01:50] <gnomefreak> jonolsonroll2000: thats what i did too (but i dont use it)
[01:50] <ruzgar> !plugins
[01:50] <ubotu> ruzgar: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:50] <ruzgar> !plugin
[01:50] <ubotu> ruzgar: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:50] <gnomefreak> wine is in universe :(
[01:50] <asdfmn> I'm having a problem. I've done sudo passwd, set it to a password. I can do su root <password> and it works fine. I'm trying to install updates/etc it says invalid password..
[01:50] <jonolsonroll2000> gnomefreak, I do for steam. ;)
[01:50] <hyperstream> ruzgar: message the bot
[01:50] <ablyss> u can compile wine from source and run it from source tree, rather than installing it via synapitc
[01:50] <hyperstream> what should i do reinstall?
[01:51] <HymnToLife> asdfmn> if you want to set a root passwd you have to run sudo passwd root
[01:51] <ruzgar> it doesnt answer me
[01:51] <Mastastealth> why would u do that ablyss when its way eaier to just add repos
[01:51] <curley_sue> can anyone tell me what runs ubuntu's logoff?
[01:51] <Mastastealth> *easier
[01:51] <asdfmn> Hymn: Why won't synaptic run from just sudo passwd?
[01:51] <asdfmn> I had it running like that before
[01:51] <sethk> asdfmn, it will
[01:51] <_JECKEL_> it should...
[01:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ruzgar about bot
[01:52] <ablyss> Mastastealth, well you can run multiple version of wine that way, plus, you dont have to worry about broken symlinks and cross platform issues
[01:52] <asdfmn> I set the root password but it's still telling me "Wrong password."
[01:52] <piper> can anybody help me to be able to play dat files in mplayer
[01:52] <asdfmn> I installed with server, if that has anything to do with it.
[01:52] <sethk> asdfmn, probably you are running it as a regular user.  Put in your password, not root's password
[01:53] <hyperstream> help: /dev/hda2             265M  255M     0 100% /   <-- how can i do a search for large file sizes so i could remove anything that i dont require ?
[01:53] <asdfmn> Oh, your right.
[01:53] <curley_sue> gnomefreak, HymnToLife well, any idea regarding the log off?
[01:53] <HymnToLife> nope, sory
[01:53] <asdfmn> I'm used to having the same root password as user, but I figured I'd use common sense.. Was a bit wrong.
[01:53] <satan> hi, i have a newbie question, if i use the regular ubuntu 5.10 install cd, how do i install kde?
[01:53] <HymnToLife> can't you just deactivate the eth interface in network-admin ?
[01:53] <asdfmn> satan
[01:53] <asdfmn> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <quacker> yeeeees?
[01:54] <quacker> Muahahahaa...
[01:54] <satan> sweet, thanks asdfmn :)
[01:54] <gnomefreak> curley_sue: nope sorry
[01:54] <asdfmn> Then to launch it just type in kdm but make sure gnome is off.. You probably want to change runlevel to 2
[01:54] <HymnToLife> satan> don't forget to add the KDE 3.5.1 repo before
[01:54] <satan> how do i do that?
[01:54] <asdfmn> Yeah, you should use the KDE 3.5.1 repo so you get the newest version
[01:54] <satan> just apt-get update?
[01:54] <asdfmn> no
[01:54] <KentJonathan> sorry where i can download the  libraries: libstdc++.so.5:
[01:55] <asdfmn> apt-cache search libstdc
[01:55] <asdfmn> It's in one of the repositories
[01:55] <sethk> KentJonathan, the default download sites have that library.  synaptic should find it for you.
[01:55] <HymnToLife> satan> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[01:55] <KentJonathan> but i dont have this libraries
[01:55] <gnomefreak> !info libstdc
[01:55] <sethk> KentJonathan, install it.  use the synaptic search to find it
[01:55] <KentJonathan> !info libstdc
[01:56] <Maks0n> Hello, I was just wanting to know if someone could explain KDE to me? I have Ubuntu 5.04 installed, can I have KDE?
[01:56] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> > sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[01:56] <satan> thanks, hymntolife
[01:56] <asdfmn> Maks0n:
[01:56] <HymnToLife> Maks0n> /join #kubuntu
[01:56] <Maks0n> It just seems like a sleeker interface
[01:56] <asdfmn> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:56] <asdfmn> Then launch it via kdm
[01:56] <Maks0n> kdm?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> Maks0n: yes you can have kde in any version of ubuntu
[01:56] <KentJonathan> thank you :)
[01:56] <asdfmn> kdm -> the command.. but you should use the kde 3.5.1 repo
[01:57] <asdfmn> kdm to launch KDE, gdm to launch Gnome
[01:57] <gnomefreak> kdm =kde display manager
[01:57] <satan> and it should make no difference if i'm installing on an imac, right?
[01:57] <Maks0n> cool, thanks
[01:57] <HymnToLife> asdfmn> you can very well run KDE via GDM
[01:57] <asdfmn> Oh? Well that's just what I do
[01:57] <HymnToLife> satan> nope
[01:57] <HymnToLife> the packages are available for PPC too
[01:58] <asdfmn> I switched back to gnome because the new update
[01:58] <asdfmn> soon
[01:58] <gnomefreak> kdm and gdm is just to set default login screen
[01:58] <Auckland_Pig> how can i find which versioin of Ubuntu i am using?
[01:58] <satan> thanks guys :)
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Auckland_Pig: lsb_release -a
[01:58] <ablyss> hyperstream, type this in terminal "cd /dev/hda2 ; du -ah | awk '{print $1}' | grep M"
[01:59] <Auckland_Pig> gnomefreak: thank you :)
[01:59] <gnomefreak> yw Auckland_Pig
[01:59] <asdfmn> Hey guys, what do you all think is the best music player for Gnome
[01:59] <HymnToLife> amaroK :D
[01:59] <asdfmn> amaroK comes for gnome, too?
[01:59] <ablyss> hyperstream, actually type "cd /dev/hda2 ; du -ah | grep M" instead
[01:59] <Auckland_Pig> asdfmn: to play what?
[01:59] <gnomefreak> lol HymnToLife you would say that
[02:00] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:00] <HymnToLife> wellyou can install it on gnome
[02:00] <HymnToLife> and it works perfectly
[02:00] <asdfmn> I love amaroK
[02:00] <asdfmn> good
[02:00] <asdfmn> I just installed server on my kubuntu disk.. KDE just isn't my thing unfortunately.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> most ke and gnome apps run cross wm
[02:00] <gnomefreak> s/ke/kde
[02:00] <asdfmn> Plus I heard Gnome is gonna update soon.
[02:00] <asdfmn> Read all about it
[02:01] <gnomefreak> update what?
[02:01] <asdfmn> Alot of stuff
[02:01] <gnomefreak> asdfmn: breezy i dont think is getting the gnome updates from 2.13-2.14
[02:02] <asdfmn> No worries, I'll update to Dapper
[02:03] <mike-w> is there any way to get mplayer or xine or totem to play *all* wmv files?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell mike-w about w32codecs
[02:04] <mike-w> i have them installd.
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mike-w about w32codecs
[02:04] <gnomefreak> mike-w: than it should ply most of them
[02:04] <mike-w> it plays some
[02:05] <DJ_tobias> im having troubles with a game i am trying to install could somebody help? i cant mount the cd rom
[02:06] <jfk> Yo DJ - what you tried so far?
[02:06] <WoC> gnomefreak, u wouldn't know of a easier way to swap my two framebuffer devices vga16 and sisfb, making my sisfb fb0 other than by recompiling the kernel and making sisfb built in?
[02:06] <mike-w> DJ_tobias : mount /cdrom?
[02:06] <_JECKEL_> wow..mplayer takes a while to make..
[02:06] <mike-w> DJ_tobias : or mount /media/cdrom
[02:07] <_JECKEL_> bah
[02:07] <mike-w> i always get some stupid font error with mplayer
[02:07] <_JECKEL_> I hope it didnt freeze on me...
[02:07] <hondadarrell_> anyone's computer freeze during lateset Dapper update?
[02:07] <_JECKEL_> oh there we go
[02:07] <DJ_tobias> mike-w, 'no media found'
[02:07] <Maks0n> I can never get sudo apt-get install to work, does anyone know why this is?
[02:07] <jfk> ... DJ - and what was the response?
[02:07] <HymnToLife> Maks0n> error message ?
[02:08] <DJ_tobias> mike-w, just figured out why... its DVD-Rom
[02:08] <Maks0n> i tried with kubuntu-desktop and i got this
[02:08] <jfk> uh-ok
[02:08] <DJ_tobias> since when are games dvd-rom?!
[02:08] <Maks0n> Reading package lists... Done
[02:08] <Maks0n> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:08] <Maks0n> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[02:08] <jfk> since PS/2 dude
[02:08] <_JECKEL_> yeah..
[02:08] <Mastastealth> DJ: since they got over 1GB ;)
[02:08] <HymnToLife> did you apt-get update before ?
[02:09] <DJ_tobias> Mastastealth, man its been a while! guess im gonna go get a dvd-burner!
[02:09] <globe> how do I reconfigure my x server?
[02:09] <Maks0n> probably not... I am a crazy newbie
[02:09] <HymnToLife> run it then ;)
[02:09] <jfk> globe: to do what???
[02:09] <HymnToLife> and did you add the kde 3.5.1 repo ?
[02:09] <_JECKEL_> wtf..is this thing just making over and over again or is mplayer just really freaking huge?
[02:09] <_JECKEL_> this thing is like x-box O.o
[02:09] <globe> jfk.... I need to re-run the xconfig script
[02:09] <Maks0n> i did the update, but how do i do the kde repo thing?
[02:09] <Mastastealth> DJ: ubuntu doesnt read it at all?
[02:10] <DJ_tobias> Mastastealth, nope, its a dvd rom game i guess... and i dont have a dvd player
[02:10] <Mastastealth> DJ: or do u not have a DVD drive? You only need a regular DVD-ROM (not burner) to read em
[02:10] <Mastastealth> oh ok
[02:10] <jfk> globe: laptop?
[02:10] <Mastastealth> DJ: aw well, dvd burners are cheap now a days anyway ^_^
[02:10] <globe> jfk yep
[02:11] <DJ_tobias> Mastastealth, if i borrowed my roomates dvd burner, plugged it in and then took the files off the drive would i need the disk to play it?
[02:11] <whiter> how can i install java using apt-get ?
[02:11] <jfk> globe: please don't tell me it's an acer TM ;^)=
[02:11] <Mastastealth> DJ: depends, seeing as how its DVD, its prob a new game, so no, u cant, but you can use his drive to burn an ISO of the DVD
[02:11] <globe> jfk no...nothing that nice ;-) its a gateway 400 series
[02:11] <Kr4t05> Ok
[02:12] <Mastastealth> DJ: and then u can mount that as a drive i believe, and that should work
[02:12] <Kr4t05> Question...
[02:12] <Kr4t05> !xfce
[02:12] <ubotu> hmm... xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[02:12] <whiter> !java
[02:12] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:12] <Mastastealth> DJ: but of course, thats a 4GB image, so if u have a small HDD, its not an ideal solution
[02:12] <DJ_tobias> Mastastealth, its just neverwinter nights Diamond edition, old game just comes with all 6 of the expansions
[02:12] <DJ_tobias> Mastastealth, i have 2 40 GB HDD's :)
[02:13] <Kr4t05> Mkay
[02:13] <Kr4t05> That's another 200MB
[02:13] <Kr4t05> :/
[02:13] <_JECKEL_> when I finally get a job and get the money..i'm probably gonna have dual 80 gigs. one for windowz and one for linux
[02:13] <Mastastealth> doesnt never winter have a native linux install...
[02:13] <Gokz> hey guys i recently installed ubuntu server, and i have an rt2500 wireless card
[02:13] <Gokz> how do i set it up inside the server..i am completly new to linux
[02:13] <Gokz> The Rt2500 supports WPA natively. I would avoid using Gnome Network Manager because it doesn't have WPA options, and so setting things there may confuse the issue. Start up a terminal and edit the file /etc/network/interfaces to include the stanza
[02:13] <Mastastealth> oh i guess its on the DVD :D
[02:13] <DJ_tobias> Mastastealth, haha yea :)
[02:13] <Gokz> i dont even know how to do the above.
[02:14] <DJ_tobias> http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=469853&forum=72
[02:14] <globe> how do I run the xorg reconfigure script?
[02:14] <Mastastealth> DJ: well, maybe you can just install it with ur friends drive, pick some full isntall option, and maybe u wont need the DVD anymore?
[02:14] <hondadarrell_> anyone's computer freeze during lateset Dapper update?
[02:14] <Mastastealth> DJ: i know i had some games with that option
[02:14] <DJ_tobias> Mastastealth, yea i think thats what im gonna do
[02:14] <Mastastealth> :)
[02:14] <dhanny> hi all..
[02:14] <DJ_tobias> brb
[02:14] <dhanny> i need help
[02:14] <odat> anyone have any experience with grub and ata drives
[02:15] <green_earz> globe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  as sudo
[02:15] <Mastastealth> question - Anyone know if I can ssh into a curently running session?
[02:15] <dhanny> i just instaled Dapper in all of my office computer
[02:15] <HymnToLife> Mastastealth> yes
[02:15] <globe> green_earz: yea....thats it...thanks
[02:15] <Mastastealth> dhanny: :O
[02:15] <Mastastealth> Hymn: how?
[02:15] <green_earz> np
[02:15] <khafra> When is a file that's there, not there? http://pastebin.ca/44511
[02:15] <Mastastealth> wassup odat?
[02:15] <khafra> The system insists that firefox doesn't exist when I try to run it, but insists that it's there when I list it
[02:15] <dhanny> and it need upgrade a lot of packages, so i plan to make a mirror from ubuntu
[02:15] <Gokz> i guesss i will just ask again -> how do i edit i file using ubuntu installed in server
[02:15] <HymnToLife> just the same way you would do if your session was not running
[02:16] <dhanny> so how to make this mirror?
[02:16] <Mastastealth> ssh ip.add.res.s ?
[02:16] <jfk> globe: Should be relatively easy - what exactly is your prob???
[02:16] <HymnToLife> exactly
[02:16] <Mastastealth> but then i get a new session
[02:16] <khafra> How do I fix a file that the filesystem says is there, but that I can't execute, list, or otherwise see contents of?
[02:16] <HymnToLife> oh
[02:16] <dhanny> i'm newbie in this matter.. i dont know how to use rsync command..
[02:17] <khafra> I'm using reiserfs, and had a bad shutdown, could that've caused the problem?  What do I do to fix it?
[02:17] <dhanny> somebody would help me here?
[02:17] <chuckyp> ubotu, tell dhanny about rsync
[02:17] <HymnToLife> what exactly do you mean "the same session" ?
[02:17] <Mastastealth> like, i got my server working with the new nic (ty btw ;)) and i leave it on
[02:17] <odat> Mastastealth, i am trying to install ubuntu on a pute with two ata 200 gig drives and eachtime i get done installing and it reboots i get an grub error 2
[02:17] <Mastastealth> now i left a program running
[02:17] <khafra> /usr/bin/firefox is there, but it's not there.
[02:17] <Mastastealth> a game server, on that "session" that i logged in...
[02:17] <odat> Mastastealth, i believe grub is having trouble with the ata drives
[02:17] <Mastastealth> how do i log in via ssh to that same session?
[02:17] <chuckyp> khafra, how can something be there but not there?
[02:18] <_JECKEL_> oh god damnit! spent all that time making the freaking thing and now it doesn't wanna install!
[02:18] <khafra> I can list /usr/bin/firefox with ls, but if I try to execute it or list its contents with more, the system says it's not there: http://pastebin.ca/44511
[02:18] <_JECKEL_> SCREW YOU MPLAYER!
[02:18] <Gokz> lol okay could anyone please help me..
[02:18] <FunnyLookinHat> odat, Do you have the drives in a raid configuration?
[02:18] <HymnToLife> to do what ?
[02:18] <khafra> chuckyp: So, that's what I want to know.
[02:18] <HymnToLife> I don't get it
[02:18] <HymnToLife> what's the problem with jus login normally ?
[02:18] <Gokz> how do i set up an RT2500 card
[02:18] <_JECKEL_> there we go
[02:18] <Gokz> in ubuntu server
[02:18] <_JECKEL_> had to sudo
[02:18] <Mastastealth> to stop the program to change some of its settings
[02:18] <jfk> danny: rsync -avz <from_server:file_and_dir> <to_server:file_and_dir>  -- GL ;^)=
[02:18] <khafra> I've tried checking reinstall for it, in synaptic, that didn't fix it.
[02:18] <odat> FunnyLookinHat, first time working with ATA
[02:18] <Mastastealth> odat: grub should behave fine with ata drives...are they on raid?
[02:18] <Gokz> or atleast how do i edit i file in Ubuntu server
[02:19] <chuckyp> khafra, because its a symlink to /opt/firefox/firefox
[02:19] <HymnToLife> Mastastealth> hmmm try killing it from the ssh
[02:19] <HymnToLife> and then restarting it
[02:19] <dhanny> i want to rsync dapper from http://ubuntu.cbn.net.id/Ubuntu/
[02:19] <hatake_kakashi> Gokz: vim/ed/nano/
[02:19] <green_earz> dhanny: have a look at using rsnapshot  its a lots easyer to use then rsync > aptitude show rsnapshot
[02:19] <khafra> chuckyp: Right, but it's still a link.  It should still do something, shouldn't it?
[02:19] <odat> Mastastealth, i have no idea
[02:19] <dhanny> how the command is?
[02:19] <chuckyp> ubotu, tell khafra about ln
[02:20] <asterisk99> Anyone hear of problems with the disk-activity-light staying on all the time (after boot)???
[02:20] <green_earz> dhanny: sorry wrong thing for that job
[02:20] <Mastastealth> hymn: hmmm, but then when i start it again, i start it on that temporary ssh session dont i?
[02:20] <khafra> Oh, I see what you're saying.  If the target disappeared, the link will act like it's not there.
[02:20] <khafra> But it'll still be there in an ls
[02:20] <Mastastealth> unless i can move porcesses to different sessions? :X
[02:20] <khafra> How the bleep did my /opt/firefox directory disappear when I rebooted?
[02:20] <freefrag>  DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[02:21] <HymnToLife> I still don't really get it
[02:21] <jfk> asterisk99: yep - watch for gam_server
[02:21] <HymnToLife> what does it matter if it's run on one "session" or another ?
[02:21] <odat> Mastastealth, how can i get this working  ?
[02:21] <_JECKEL_> bah
[02:21] <Gokz> could anyone please tell me how to edit /etc/network/interfaces, while ubuntu is in server mode
[02:21] <Gokz> i dont know what command to use
[02:21] <asterisk99> jfk: gam_server???
[02:21] <hatake_kakashi> Gokz: you have to use a command line text editor such as vim or nano, etc
[02:21] <Gokz> THANK YOU!
[02:21] <asterisk99> jfk: Gay Asian Male?
[02:22] <Mastastealth> hymn: becuz if it runs on the session that i enter in (like in putty) and i close putty, the game's server closes, i use a ./soldaserver command to start it
[02:22] <dhanny> oohh.. God please help mee...
[02:22] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: its a file monitoring app, can be annoying at times
[02:22] <Mastastealth> odat: idk dude :( have u googled for grub error 2?
[02:22] <sethk> Mastastealth, run it with nohup
[02:22] <hatake_kakashi> dhanny: man rsync?
[02:22] <Mastastealth> nohup? whats that?
[02:22] <khafra> What  do you do if a directory disappears after an improper shutdown, when you're using reiserfs?
[02:22] <_JECKEL_> anyone know how I could remove mplayer? >_>
[02:22] <asdfmn> I have a queeestion
[02:23] <jfk> asterisk99: I had gam_server go ape_shit yest. part of gamin package linking gnome to monitoring of changed files. Sometimes screws up. Hate to say, but only reboot cured it.
[02:23] <Mastastealth> sudo apt-get remove mplayer? :P
[02:23] <Gnumannen> _JECKEL_, sudo apt-get remove mplayer
[02:23] <dhanny> oo.. there is so much option in man rsync??
[02:23] <hatake_kakashi> Mastastealth: makes it 'no hangup' mode. So when logging out, it won't exit
[02:23] <odat> Mastastealth, yes haven't really found anything    how do i do the raid thing?
[02:23] <dhanny> sorry.. i'm running out of time... :(
[02:23] <_JECKEL_> not working
[02:23] <_JECKEL_> says it's not installed..which is BS
[02:23] <odat> Mastastealth, and what is lvm?
[02:23] <pedro> hi, i need a Gaim help please
[02:23] <hatake_kakashi> jfk: you could easily do 'sudo kill -9 gam_server'
[02:23] <HymnToLife> asdfmn> ask it then ;)
[02:23] <asterisk99> jfk: hmmmm. it comes on solid during the boot and just stays on
[02:23] <Mastastealth> odat: level volume management, i dont really know much about it, maybe some1 else can help with that
[02:23] <_JECKEL_> because it's not a package...
[02:24] <HymnToLife> !lvm
[02:24] <ubotu> it has been said that lvm is (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[02:24] <Mastastealth> ok, so i install nohup? and run the process through it?
[02:24] <hatake_kakashi> odat: logical volume manager, its something to do with hard disks and probably in particular about RAID/JBOD
[02:24] <khafra> Where do I get help with reiserfs problems?  There's nobody at all in #reiserfs
[02:24] <jfk> hatake_:  way ahead - tried that - no possiblo - just restarts
[02:24] <sethk> khafra, they are all hiding
[02:24] <pedro> how can i make a file transfer using Gaim ? The other person can not see the request for it
[02:24] <hatake_kakashi> Mastastealth: technically that command should be built in unless if you see an error with the nohup command
[02:24] <jfk> asterisk99: Not good - something else wrong there! ;^(
[02:24] <HymnToLife> pedro> are you behind a router/firewall ?
[02:25] <pedro> yes
[02:25] <Mastastealth> oh ok, yea, just tried apt-get and it didnt find it ^_^
[02:25] <hatake_kakashi> pedro: could it be the firewall setting either on your router or on the other end?
[02:25] <khafra> sethk: That's just lovely.  But I don't believer in irc users I can't see.
[02:25] <HymnToLife> then you should open the port used for GAIM transfers
[02:25] <hatake_kakashi> Mastastealth: well, it should be built-in iir
[02:25] <HymnToLife> dunno which one it is though...
[02:25] <pedro> do you know wich is it ?
[02:25] <hatake_kakashi> s/iir/iirc
[02:25] <HymnToLife> ask on #gaim
[02:25] <dhanny> nobody have idea hoe to use rsync to mirror dapper's packages from  http://ubuntu.cbn.net.id/Ubuntu/ ???????????
[02:25] <pedro> ok, cool, thanks.
[02:25] <hatake_kakashi> dhanny: I told you, use man rsync
[02:26] <Maks0n> Back again, if I was to download the Kubuntu ISO, does it install as a new OS or does it go ontop of the Ubuntu I already have?
[02:26] <dhanny> so much options ove there.. i confuse
[02:26] <KentJonathan> help i need plugins of flash because i dont see the pag of flash :(
[02:26] <jfk> dhanny: yeah, RTFM, quick now!!! ;^)=
[02:26] <HymnToLife> !flash
[02:26] <ubotu> I guess flash is installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:26] <hatake_kakashi> dhanny: or rsync HOWTO, google for it
[02:26] <KentJonathan> !flash
[02:27] <KentJonathan> that is the pag?
[02:27] <Mastastealth> why do i see some ppl type in "!" and some word? :P
[02:27] <khafra> Hey, am I just plain screwed here, if my Reiserfs filesystem seems to be missing directories?
[02:27] <Mastastealth> wuts that do?
[02:27] <HymnToLife> see the ink ubotu gave...
[02:27] <dhanny> so much result.. im running out of time.. :(
[02:27] <hatake_kakashi> Maks0n: you can install kubuntu-desktop without having to install kubuntu over ubuntu if that's what yoiu meant
[02:27] <khafra> Do I have to remake the partition?
[02:27] <Gokz> hey guys another question, im trying to set up my wireless card.. how do i know if my router is using TKIP or AES
[02:27] <asterisk99> jfk: tried kill -9 gam_server ..... ERROR: garbage process ID "gam_server".
[02:27] <Gokz> All i know is that i have a WEP encrpytion key
[02:27] <khafra> 'cause that's what the wikipedia entry on reiserfs seems to be saying
[02:27] <Mastastealth> Gokz: check wireless settings in the routers config page
[02:27] <HymnToLife> Mastastealth> it's to have ubotu explain things
[02:27] <HymnToLife> cuz we're too lazy to do it ourselves :p
[02:27] <Mastastealth> oh...
[02:27] <dhanny> i have to switch all dapper into ms windows if i could'nt solve it.. ooohh noooo.... :((
[02:28] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[02:28] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[02:28] <Mastastealth> ubotu is a bot...
[02:28] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mastastealth
[02:28] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: sudo kill -9 `pidof gam_server`
[02:28] <Mastastealth> lol
[02:28] <Maks0n> hatake_kakashi: Ok cool thanks, I can't seem to find kubuntu-desktop in Synaptic tho, any hints?
[02:28] <Gokz> yes but all it says is that its WEP
[02:28] <Gokz> netgear router
[02:28] <hatake_kakashi> Maks0n: err it should be there.. hmm hang on
[02:28] <odat> hatake_kakashi, any idea about grub and ata
[02:28] <hatake_kakashi> !info kubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <jfk> asterisk99: Check versions of gamin - might need to regress. What version nums have you??
[02:28] <Gokz> it says security encrpyion WEP
[02:28] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[02:28] <ablyss> killall -9 gaim_server would work too
[02:28] <Maks0n> !info kubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <Mastastealth> Gokz: i think TKIP is used more...guess ull have to try both to see wich works? :D
[02:28] <Gokz> thanks
[02:29] <asterisk99> jfk:  kill -9 `pidof gam_server`
[02:29] <asterisk99>  worked ... but disk activity light still on
[02:29] <Gokz>  pre-up iwpriv ra0 set WPAPSK="A shared key"
[02:29] <Gokz> my encrption key
[02:29] <Gokz> has two keys
[02:29] <hatake_kakashi> odat: I dunno if that is affecting SATA hard disks, afaik, I had problems when I had multiple hard disks inserted on my computer. My solution was to make the rest undetectable by setup via physically unplugging either the data cable or the power cable and plugging them back in after installations
[02:29] <Gokz> both need to be enteret
[02:29] <Gokz> how do i do that in linux?
[02:30] <_JECKEL_> bah..screw mplayer
[02:30] <_JECKEL_> how do I get xine to play wmv's?
[02:30] <NRG88> update notifier doesn't start :(
[02:30] <HymnToLife> !wmv
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: use top to see which one is still using the most
[02:30] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:30] <jfk> asterisk99: It can go crazy -= esp. if you have remote network FS mounted!!
[02:30] <NRG88> i tried reinstalling it, but nothing
[02:30] <NRG88> can anyone help me?
[02:30] <_JECKEL_> !wmv
[02:30] <KentJonathan> i have a question why in the process to install the flash he have this error E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[02:30] <khafra> Synaptic says I have broken packages, and to use the "broken" filter to find them
[02:31] <globe> what is the kernel framebuffer service? am I better off enabling or disabling it?
[02:31] <khafra> But when I check the "broken" box under filters, nothing changes in the list.
[02:31] <_JECKEL_> !wmv
[02:31] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:31] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> because you do not have the correct repos enabled
[02:31] <NRG88> i was using kubuntu, and i'm transforming it to ubuntu
[02:31] <Olfrenchho> hey is anyone having problems with samba on dapper?
[02:31] <KentJonathan> what is the repos enabled?
[02:31] <Gokz> hey mastastealth how do i set two WEP encrption keys
[02:31] <HymnToLife> !repos
[02:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:31] <__femto__> Heya, just installed Ubuntu and everything's okay except it takes aaaaaaaaaaaages to lookup a web address... Anyone know how to fix this?
[02:31] <Gokz> in ubuntu i am editing preferences
[02:31] <KentJonathan> ok thankz
[02:32] <Gokz> the wiki tells me to do " pre-up iwpriv ra0 set WPAPSK="A shared key"
[02:32] <Gokz> but i have two keys
[02:32] <chuckyp> __femto__, what browser are you using and your name is annoying
[02:32] <HymnToLife> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 <= w00t
[02:32] <HymnToLife> Dapper is a satanic thing :D
[02:32] <khafra> How do I find broken packages?
[02:32] <dhanny> ooh.. there is lack of info about rsync in wiki.ubuntu... :((
[02:32] <HymnToLife> khafra> use the "Broken" filter in Synaptic
[02:32] <__femto__> I'm using Firefox
[02:32] <Helfax> Anyone have luck getting iTunes to work correctly yet?
[02:33] <chuckyp> khafra, dude if you apt-get install firefox.  packages are there.  What is your problem specifically?
[02:33] <_JECKEL_> !wmv
[02:33] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:33] <khafra> HymnToLife: I click the filters button, click broken, click ok, and it comes up with all the packages.
[02:33] <JoshT> Just changed my nick too... :)
[02:33] <hatake_kakashi> _JECKEL_: do you have to keep repeating yourself?
[02:33] <Olfrenchho> anyone having problems with samba?
[02:33] <khafra> Synaptic told me a package was broken, and I believe it because firefox isn't working at all
[02:33] <Olfrenchho> i can't connect to windows shares for some reason
[02:33] <hatake_kakashi> Olfrenchho: no, but I'm not on dapper
[02:33] <_JECKEL_> sorry Hatake...thought the bot was supposed to give me a PM
[02:33] <chuckyp> ubotu, tell Olfrenchho about anyone
[02:33] <HymnToLife> !dapper
[02:33] <ubotu> dapper is, like, the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[02:33] <Mastastealth> Gokz: are u doing it via commandline? No programs?
[02:33] <khafra> So I look for broken packages, but it won't filter them for me
[02:33] <dhanny> there's no "TFMB" about rsync.. :((
[02:33] <jfk> Olfrncho: like what???
[02:34] <JoshT> chuckyp - It's version 1.0.7
[02:34] <hatake_kakashi> _JECKEL_: if you want to you can query the bot
[02:34] <Gokz> anyone know how to set up two wep keys with ubuntu
[02:34] <Olfrenchho> why i try to open the network i get an error
[02:34] <Olfrenchho> "smb://" is not a valid location
[02:34] <Mastastealth> question - can i ust unplug a monitor cable from a running computer? :P
[02:34] <chuckyp> JoshT, should be fine maybe check that you are using proper dns servers etc...
[02:34] <jfk> Olfrncho: Don't do it man, ther'es evil stuff in them windows shares ;^)=
[02:34] <chuckyp> khafra, what about removing and reinstalling it.
[02:34] <Helfax> Yes.
[02:34] <sixtymhz> !mouse
[02:34] <ubotu> hmm... mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[02:34] <chuckyp> Mastastealth, yes
[02:34] <Mastastealth> Gokz: is it all via commandline? or why dont u use a program?
[02:34] <Helfax> Mastastealth.. Yes.
[02:34] <Mastastealth> like GTK-Wifi
[02:34] <zugot> why oh why can't i get linux support for my x1400?
[02:34] <sixtymhz> !touch
[02:34] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sixtymhz
[02:34] <Gokz> it is all via command line
[02:35] <Gokz> i have ubuntu server installed
[02:35] <Mastastealth> oh.....
[02:35] <Gokz> :(
[02:35] <chuckyp> zugot, try www.google.com/linux
[02:35] <JoshT> chuckp, I have a DSL router and it handles the DNS requests from my PC.  XP is as fast as hell so it must be something I need to adjust in linux somewhere....
[02:35] <zugot> chuckyp, i was ranting... it doesn't work
[02:35] <ruzgar> !totem
[02:35] <ubotu> ruzgar: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:35] <bout2looseit> hi room
[02:36] <chuckyp> JoshT, search for optimizing firefox.  or you can try a different browser just to make sure firefox is the problem.
[02:36] <Helfax> What is the problem JoshT?
[02:36] <bout2looseit> could some one give me some 1 on 1 help
[02:36] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[02:36] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:36] <chuckyp> ubotu, tell bout2looseit about ask
[02:36] <bout2looseit> k
[02:36] <Olfrenchho> ask
[02:36] <JoshT> chuckyp, Okay I'll try that.  Thanks a lot :)  I had the same prob with SuSe and Debian on this PC too.  Ah well, I'll have a try. Thanks.
[02:37] <jfk> OlFrencho: "smb://" is not a valid location - your samba server is not allowing browsing of shares -at least to what ever you are/are not authenticated as - read the Samba help stuff
[02:37] <bout2looseit> i c
[02:37] <chuckyp> JoshT, try using nautilus i'm assuming you are in gnome and go to a website and see if it is slow as well.
[02:37] <Helfax> Any Cedega users here?
[02:37] <JoshT> Righto, I'll try that now....
[02:37] <chuckyp> ubotu, tell Helfax about ask
[02:37] <Olfrenchho> would that be in the samba man pages?
[02:37] <directhex> Helfax, yes. why?
[02:37] <bout2looseit> i am trying to make java plug in work
[02:37] <Mastastealth> !ssh
[02:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[02:37] <hatake_kakashi> !tell bout2looseit about java
[02:38] <bout2looseit> i sighned in as sudo -i and tried to exicute install
[02:38] <hatake_kakashi> bout2looseit: and?
[02:39] <ovidio> hello hackerosos!!
[02:39] <jfk> yodude ovidos
[02:39] <Bung> hi, uhm, how can i use command line instead of this synaptic package manager, is it just apt-get?
[02:39] <zugot> Bung, yup it is
[02:39] <bout2looseit> root@GWPOSOL:~# /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386
[02:39] <bout2looseit> -bash: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386: Permission denied
[02:39] <bout2looseit> root@GWPOSOL:~# exit
[02:39] <bout2looseit> logout
[02:39] <hatake_kakashi> Bung: apt-get, aptitude
[02:39] <Bung> thanks zugot, wasnt sure
[02:40] <Bung> cheers all :)
[02:40] <chuckyp> !tell bout2looseit about paste
[02:40] <zugot> !tell zugot about life
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> bout2looseit: wth, that is kernel image, and that is a file not a directory
[02:40] <bout2looseit> guess i did wrong
[02:40] <bout2looseit> man this has a tough learnin curve
[02:41] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know how to setup ip-aliases in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:41] <hatake_kakashi> bout2looseit: did you read the link from what ubotu gave you?
[02:41] <HymnToLife> Psi-Jack> they are in /etc/hosts
[02:41] <Psi-Jack> HymnToLife: I didn't ask for hosts aliases. I asked for IP aliases. eth0:1 for example. :p
[02:41] <BrownMan> "./linux_client: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" <----- how do I get this package?
[02:41] <HymnToLife> oh, sorry
[02:41] <ruzgar> !totem
[02:41] <ubotu> ruzgar: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:41] <_wd3_> holycow, still need ur help. i want to install on a hd that had linux on it, i'm using ghost, well  the hd is recogn. in the bios but  when i use ghost diskette to access the d: drive the hd isn't recog, is linux not recogn? how can i del partition and reformat over linux?
[02:42] <BrownMan> i tried doing sudo apt-get install libstdc++.so.5 and it says the package couldn't be found
[02:42] <hatake_kakashi> BrownMan: apt-cache search libstdc++
[02:42] <chuckyp> _wd3_, why are you installing via ghost?  Why don't you just install from cd?
[02:42] <zugot> i've crash my snaptics trackpad
[02:42] <ruzgar> is there a download manager for ubuntu ?
[02:42] <directhex> that's because libstdc++.so.5 is a library, not a package
[02:42] <HymnToLife> _wd3_> tou want to ghost your liux partition ?
[02:42] <BrownMan> oh it is
[02:42] <jfk> Psi-jack: can you clarify what you want to do, then someone might be able to help you???
[02:42] <zugot> and i'm in windows ... wtf... this has never happend in linux before
[02:42] <chuckyp> BrownMan, apt-cache search <package>
[02:42] <hatake_kakashi> ruzgar: d4x, etc
[02:42] <BrownMan> ok
[02:42] <holycow> wd ghost can only do windows
[02:43] <ruzgar> ok i'll try
[02:43] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> lots
[02:43] <HymnToLife> gwget for example
[02:43] <directhex> libstdc++5 is a package
[02:43] <HymnToLife> or aria
[02:43] <ruzgar> gwget is better than d4x
[02:43] <ruzgar> ?
[02:43] <Psi-Jack> jfk: I'm trying to setup IP aliases.. Simple as that. Using /etc/network/interfaces, if it can do it. :p There's not really much more to describe it.
[02:43] <_wd3_> hymm and holwcow thanks but basically i want to delete the linux partition to install win for my daughter
[02:43] <HymnToLife> dunno, I use aria :p
[02:43] <ruzgar> ok
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> ruzgar: I personally think d4x is alot better than gwget
[02:44] <HymnToLife> _wd3_> no need of ghost thenjust install from the win CD
[02:44] <chuckyp> _wd3_, the windows installation cd can delete partitions on the drive.
[02:44] <ruzgar> umm i'll i have to try all of them :)
[02:44] <jfk> Psi-jack: OK, so you want a secondary IP addy on an interface???
[02:44] <JoshT> chuckyp, tried Epiphany.  It does the same thing - Just sits there for like a minute before it starts to load anything.
[02:44] <asterisk99> Question for GRUB people: I have an 80GB disk; 20GB used for Ubuntu; 20GB for alternate Ubunto Server [02:44] <ovidio> Windows sucks!!
[02:44] <Psi-Jack> jfk: That is what an IP alias is. Multiple IP's on a single interface, yes.
[02:44] <HymnToLife> no
[02:44] <chuckyp> JoshT, hrm.... check ifconfig and make sure you are getting dns servers from dhcp.
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: you should install windows first and let GRUB do its magic
[02:44] <HymnToLife> win XP will definitely corrupt the MBR
[02:44] <jfk> Psi-jack:  Just checking - chill out there.
[02:44] <ovidio> install Linux for your daughter!!
[02:45] <Psi-Jack> jfk: I'm perfectly chilled. ;}
[02:45] <HymnToLife> I'm wondering what ubotu says for this
[02:45] <sixtymhz> You can always backup your MBR.
[02:45] <HymnToLife> !windows
[02:45] <ubotu> windows is, like, unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[02:45] <JoshT> chuckyp, Checked that too.  Also, if I open a terminal window and do an nslookup, it's like instant!
[02:45] <chuckyp> _wd3_, ghost shouldn't even care about the partitions that are installed anyways. it should jsut prompt you and overwrite the drive.  Its a sector for sector rewrite.
[02:45] <asterisk99> hatake_kakashi: hmmmm. I wish I had done that... too late now... I guess I am hooped
[02:45] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: however, what you could do is backup the MBR sectors and then after winxp install, recover those MBR sectors and then append winxp boot to it, etc
[02:46] <chuckyp> _wd3_, what about a windows support room also.
[02:46] <kyncani> asterisk99: you can setup grub again
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: well sixtymhz has got me beat somewhat :)
[02:46] <puppet_masters> hi all
[02:46] <_wd3_> ovidio i tried but 10 times the after the install it booted to a root "her user $" then it asks for a user and pass, well i did all that and nothing, i'm burnt out
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> err beaten me somewhat* :)
[02:46] <dhanny> it seems i couldnt make a repository using rsync for upgrade dapper packages..
[02:46] <kyncani> asterisk99: no need to backup your mbr
[02:46] <asterisk99> hatake_kakashi: Unless I install Windows, then  install another Ubunto and let it rebuild GRUB and the MBR --- would that work?
[02:46] <sixtymhz> hatake_kakashi : huh?
[02:46] <puppet_masters> someone can help me plz??????
[02:46] <HymnToLife> hatake_kakashi> how do you do it ?
[02:46] <HymnToLife> that's interesting
[02:46] <TRINKO> HOLA, ALGUN CHILENO O LATINO???
[02:46] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[02:46] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:47] <HymnToLife> !es
[02:47] <chuckyp> !tell puppet_masters about ask
[02:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: well there are howto guides to reinstall grub, but backing up MBR could be interesting
[02:47] <ovidio> soy latino
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> sixtymhz: you've covered part of my solution :)
[02:47] <sixtymhz> heh
[02:47] <Psi-Jack> So, does anyone know how to setup IP Aliases using /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:47] <asterisk99> hatake_kakashi: This sounds dangerous ... I may never see my Ubuntu again
[02:47] <sixtymhz> use 'dd' to back up the MBR.
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> HymnToLife: imo I think its using dd to read the first 100 sectors of the hard disk?
[02:47] <sixtymhz> no
[02:47] <directhex> asterisk99, install windows. boot ubuntu install cd, type "rescue" at the boot: prompt. log into your system via the rescue, and type "grub-install (hd0)"
[02:47] <sixtymhz> 512bytes
[02:47] <TRINKO> DE DONDE OVIDIO?
[02:47] <puppet_masters> ok here is my prob :  knode: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libktnef.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTV8QCString
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> sixtymhz: ahh ok, ta
[02:48] <ovidio> de venezuela
[02:48] <_wd3_> hymm i really want to use linux for her but after the install 10x it goes to a username and pass screen after the info i put in nothing
[02:48] <HymnToLife> !et
[02:48] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[02:48] <ovidio> vivo en Republica Dominicana
[02:48] <dhanny> so i use apt-get -d upgrade in one computer, and then download all upgradable packages, but i still dont know how to install it after all packages downloader.. Anyone would help me?????????
[02:48] <TRINKO> BAKAN :)
[02:48] <HymnToLife> !es
[02:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:48] <ruzgar> !trash
[02:48] <ubotu> ruzgar: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:48] <puppet_masters> and libkdefx.so.4 have the same prob
[02:48] <hatake_kakashi> asterisk99: not really, as long as you follow the HOWTO properly, it shouldn't be a problem
[02:48] <ruzgar> where can i find trash bin ?
[02:48] <puppet_masters> so klibido knode k3b and korn doesnt work
[02:48] <leviathanxtreme> hi!!!
[02:48] <chuckyp> puppet_masters, Have no idea what you are trying to do when you encounter that problem.
[02:48] <sixtymhz> You need a live cd if you are gonna back up your MBR tho and install windows.
[02:48] <HymnToLife> dhanny> just don't add the -d
[02:49] <puppet_masters> i try to lauch klibido for read newsgroup simply
[02:49] <s|k> :(
[02:49] <jfk> Psi-jack: so, in /etc/network/interfaces -  iface eth0:0 inet static
[02:49] <jfk> address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy -adapt to your needs -HtH
[02:49] <leviathanxtreme> somebody can say me how install a codec for H264 on ubuntu??
[02:49] <puppet_masters> not a bibgbig thing
[02:49] <s|k> I want ubuntu to work
[02:49] <_wd3_> sixty is that for me?
[02:49] <chuckyp> !tell leviathanxtreme about codec
[02:49] <dhanny> no, i must donwload it first, because there are 10 computer in my office, and all of it need upgrade
[02:49] <HymnToLife> s|k> what's the problem ?
[02:49] <sixtymhz> _wd3_ : are you the one install winblows?
[02:49] <puppet_masters> where it come from?
[02:50] <puppet_masters> someone can send me is lib working?
[02:50] <s|k> HymnToLife, I can't get the latest version of the NVIDIA driver to install correctly
[02:50] <HymnToLife> dhanny> nd you want to install them on the other comps without downloading them ?
[02:50] <_wd3_> sixty yes for my daughter
[02:50] <dhanny> so my idea is, download the upgradable packages, then copy it to all computer, the install it
[02:50] <ruzgar> i cant find trash bin ?
[02:50] <HymnToLife> dhanny> yes
[02:50] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: did you follow the guides on howto install nvidia packages from ubuntu?
[02:50] <HymnToLife> then you download your packages
[02:50] <directhex> dhanny, you really want to install and use apt-proxy instead
[02:50] <s|k> I have a 7800 Nvidia card and no 3D capabilities
[02:50] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, yes I've followed 3 different ones from the forums
[02:50] <chuckyp> leviathanxtreme, please don't pm
[02:50] <dhanny> but i dont know how to install the downloaded upgradable packages
[02:51] <HymnToLife> copy them to some folder on the other compsand run sudo dpkg -i /path/to/folder/*.deb
[02:51] <s|k> and one from the linux nvidia forum as well
[02:51] <leviathanxtreme> ok
[02:51] <leviathanxtreme> tks
[02:51] <leviathanxtreme> chuk
[02:51] <s|k> I've posted there and am wating for a response hatake_kakashi
[02:51] <chuckyp> leviathanxtreme, you can ask in here or try asking ubotu by messaging him
[02:51] <dhanny> sorry, i never use apt-proxy yet.. could you help me?? i'm really newbie in linux.. :(
[02:51] <s|k> ubotu rocks
[02:51] <ubotu> s|k: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:51] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: and none of them work? what was the error output (if more than 2 lines please paste the error log onto pastebin's site) and which video card do you have, as in the full name
[02:52] <s|k> okay
[02:52] <epix> I'm running ubuntu under VMWare on WinXP, is there a way to mount the WinXP harddrive for access in Ubuntu?
[02:52] <pr0cty> im about to mount w/ vmware as well
[02:53] <whiter> epix
[02:53] <whiter> i think so
[02:53] <sixtymhz> _wd3_ :  There are two ways to get a duel boot.  Install windows first then ubuntu and allow ubuntu to auto detect windows and add it to grub.  Second would be the harder one which is install windows and lose the MBR but ubuntu is still there aslong as you dont install on the same partition as ubuntu.  If you install windows after ubuntu, you can www.ubuntuforums.org and search for the howto on reinstalling grub after a windows install.
[02:53] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, http://pastebin.com/584382
[02:53] <epix> pr0cty, if you find a way, lmk please
[02:53] <whiter> epix, do this
[02:53] <pr0cty> np
[02:53] <pr0cty> im still looking :P shud be fun
[02:53] <epix> heh
[02:53] <HymnToLife> d/sg dhanny copy the downloaded .deb files to some folder on the other comps and run sudo dpkg -i /path/to/folder/*.deb
[02:53] <_JECKEL_> it's best to install windows first
[02:53] <directhex> dhanny, apt-proxy makes a given machine do what it sounds like - act as an apt proxy. you reconfigure your client machines to use the apt proxy instead of ubuntu.com for packages - the clients then download all their updates from the apt-proxy, which either has a local copy of packages that have already been requested, or downlaods as neccessary
[02:53] <s|k> I have the nvidia 7800 GTX hatake_kakashi
[02:53] <_JECKEL_> windows is evil
[02:53] <sixtymhz> _wd3_ : or you could backup your MBR to a usbkey, restore it after boot to a live CD then menually adding your windows parition to the grub menu.
[02:54] <whiter> epix: goto System > Administration > DIsks
[02:54] <sixtymhz> manually*
[02:54] <_JECKEL_> it'll destory the boot record of anything that was on it before windows
[02:54] <dfTh> how do you see the info of a file. for example, i have a file called 'get.txt' and i want to see the info, like the size, time modified, etc
[02:54] <directhex> dhanny, the advantage of apt-proxy is you can have different sets of packages on your different machines, and don't end up installing pointless or irrelevant packages with a blanket "dpkg -i *.deb"
[02:54] <dfTh> you know what im saying?
[02:54] <corvax> windows is a predatory os
[02:54] <LjL> dfTh:  "ls -l filename"
[02:54] <epix> whiter, the winXP drive (partition) doesn't show up
[02:54] <whiter> hm
[02:55] <directhex> epix, it's possible, but NOT safe - you can create a new vmware disk, which is actually a link to a real host hard disk
[02:55] <whiter> yea
[02:55] <whiter> that
[02:55] <whiter> :)
[02:55] <directhex> epix, beware data loss
[02:55] <epix> ok, best to just hook up an external drive and share between that?
[02:55] <Xnos> someone use giFT...?
[02:55] <whiter> i would
[02:55] <directhex> epix, safer to just share the files you want to using vmware's folder sharing capability
[02:55] <whiter> but if you want to share it with windows, its best to make it fat32
[02:55] <dhanny> HymToLive, since the donwloaded packages stored in /var/cache/apt/archive i dont know which are the new packages.. it meshed up with the old packages
[02:55] <jfk> _JECKEL_ - check this out dude: http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8288296398.html - why VISTA sucks!!!
[02:55] <epix> ahh
[02:55] <whiter> that way ubuntu and windows can write to it
[02:56] <epix> ill look in VMware for htat option
[02:56] <epix> i havent used vmware in like 3 years
[02:56] <puppet_masters> nobody can help me?
[02:56] <HymnToLife> use apt-proxy then
[02:56] <s|k> I wish I could, I'm a n3wb :/
[02:56] <HymnToLife> didn't know that one :p
[02:56] <jfk> puppet: with what?
[02:56] <whiter> i would just install ubuntu instead of windows
[02:56] <s|k> ubuntu > windows :)
[02:56] <puppet_masters> knode: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libktnef.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZTV8QCString
[02:57] <epix> i tried too, but my dvdburner died :\
[02:57] <s|k> free software :D
[02:57] <chuckyp> puppet_masters, try reinstalling it.
[02:57] <puppet_masters> i have done this
[02:57] <corvax> 99% of the reasons people say they need* windows is bs
[02:57] <s|k> once you get it to work :/
[02:57] <dhanny> directhex, so i have to use apt-proxy in one of the clients?
[02:57] <chuckyp> puppet_masters, what language do you speak?
[02:57] <puppet_masters> someone tell me that a version compatibility prob
[02:57] <HymnToLife> corvax> +1
[02:57] <puppet_masters> french
[02:57] <boby__> hi does someone can help me with my scaner?
[02:57] <corvax> heh
[02:57] <puppet_masters> why?
[02:57] <chuckyp> !tell puppet_masters about fr
[02:57] <directhex> dhanny, you install apt-proxy on your internet machine. the clients, you modify sources.list
[02:57] <puppet_masters> sorry for my poor english
[02:57] <whiter> bleh im having problems installing java
[02:57] <epix> directhex, where is the 'Share Folders' option in vmware?
[02:57] <chuckyp> puppet_masters, read the message ubotu sent you
[02:58] <jfk> puppet: doing what? - if you want us to help you you need to give us enuff info mannn..
[02:58] <matt__> hi. I have a problem. :( I just installed Ubuntu and gnome doesn't offer me the screenresolution i want to use. :( I put "1280x1024" in all depths in the xorg.conf, but it didn't change anything :(
[02:58] <fossa> hi
[02:58] <puppet_masters> thx i have
[02:58] <pr0cty> id like to dual boot rather than go vmware/live cd's ..whats the chance of data loss on the drive
[02:58] <directhex> dhanny, specifically, modify sources.list on the clients and point to http://yourserverhostnameoripaddress:9999/ubuntu/ instead of http://some.mirror.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[02:58] <HymnToLife> matt__> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:58] <chuckyp> puppet_masters, yeah you may get more help in #ubuntu-fr then here its kind of hard to understand you.
[02:58] <directhex> epix, in the virtual machine properties i think. can't remember. laptop is switched off
[02:59] <dhanny> what 9999 port is?
[02:59] <directhex> 9999 is the port apt-proxy runs on
[02:59] <jfk> boby__: no - but I might be able to help with a scanNer problem ;)=
[02:59] <directhex> by default, anyway
[02:59] <corvax> distinct32?
[02:59] <corvax> on port 9999
[03:00] <corvax> what ever that is
[03:00] <dhanny> ok.. just a minute.. i'm goin to install apt-proxy
[03:00] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, did you find anything? :(
[03:00] <directhex> it's not like there's any rules regarding what you can put on high-numbered ports
[03:00] <KentJonathan> i have question i want to adding Repositories but he dont service the option Synaptic Package Manager
[03:01] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: about?
[03:01] <bruce_> hi
[03:01] <s|k> oh I'm sorry nevermind
[03:01] <jfk> directhex: - heaven forbid restrictions on high ports ;^)=
[03:01] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: you had a problem before about something hmm.. *scrolls up*
[03:01] <_JECKEL_> damn lost the url
[03:01] <_JECKEL_> !wmv
[03:01] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:02] <KentJonathan> ?
[03:02] <KentJonathan> I now the pag
[03:02] <epix> directhex, where do the 'shares' appear after they are added?
[03:02] <corvax> kent   i use aptvia the cli so  cant help ya with synaptic\
[03:02] <_JECKEL_> sorry for this..
[03:02] <matt__> HymnToLife: That thing asks me a lot of questions that i can'T answer(/can't believe i would have to)
[03:02] <dhanny> whoaaaaaa.... i got error.. there is no apt-proxy in dapper's repo... E: Package apt-proxy has no installation candidate
[03:02] <KentJonathan> but he dont service the option :(
[03:02] <_JECKEL_> ya know..you guys should include all this stuff in like...the next ubuntu. o.o
[03:02] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: ahh yes, do you have the error log that you can paste up onto pastebin's site? and what is the full name of your make/model of your video card?
[03:02] <_JECKEL_> like..all the codecs
[03:02] <bruce_> I'm sorry but I'm a newb an I've some problemes with my epson 1670 an ubuntu does someonoe know how to make it work?
[03:02] <corvax> it has the option
[03:02] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, http://pastebin.com/584382
[03:02] <leviathanxtreme> i want play a movie codified in format h264, but my mplayer cant decodified... what codec i need install?
[03:02] <directhex> epix, /mnt/something i think. you need vmware-tools installed in the client
[03:02] <HymnToLife> !codec
[03:02] <ubotu> HymnToLife: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:02] <s|k> 7800 GTX
[03:02] <s|k> is my card
[03:02] <leviathanxtreme> !codec
[03:03] <s|k> nvidia 256mb 7800 GTX
[03:03] <directhex> dhanny, it's probably in Universe
[03:03] <HymnToLife> well anyway leviathanxtreme I'm pretty sure VLC can play em
[03:03] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: ok going to read up your error log
[03:03] <s|k> thank you
[03:03] <dhanny> ok..
[03:03] <corvax> let mkent
[03:03] <corvax> click properties
[03:03] <directhex> that's fairly likely, libx264 is being developed by the vlc people
[03:03] <corvax> the repositories
[03:04] <corvax> then*
[03:04] <corvax> then custom
[03:04] <iKernel> Remember: If you want to play windows sound/movie files such as wma or wmv, you'll most likely need w32codecs.
[03:04] <jfk> outta here for 2nite - cya
[03:04] <dhanny> btw, why there is no how to in ubuntu wiki about mirorring its repo?????????
[03:04] <LjL> dhanny: uh... i guess it's not something people do too often ;)
[03:04] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: looks like a version mismatch.. did you update your xorg in any shape or form?
[03:04] <directhex> dhanny, anyting so scary & sysadminny is debian territory ;)
[03:04] <corvax> i dont even use the think and it took me two seconds just messing arounf
[03:04] <LjL> dhanny: anyway, "apt-cache show apt-proxy" and "apt-cache show apt-move"
[03:04] <corvax> it doesnt urt to try things ya know
[03:04] <HymnToLife> dhanny> why can't you just download the packages on every computer ?
[03:04] <s|k> hatake_kakashi only as directed in the forums
[03:05] <HymnToLife> are you on dialup ?
[03:05] <corvax> actually its encouraged
[03:05] <KentJonathan> corvaz i dont see the opcion Properties
[03:05] <dhanny> i think that kind of howto is important..
[03:05] <s|k> but the problem is that everything in the forums is for a different version
[03:05] <corvax> settings*
[03:05] <s|k> which nvidia doesn't have available for download
[03:05] <corvax> sorry
[03:05] <s|k> an older version
[03:05] <KentJonathan> setting ok
[03:05] <iKernel> And I reckon mplayer is probably your best bet for playing any sort of media. Dunno bout swf though
[03:05] <directhex> i'm right, apt-proxy is in universe
[03:05] <dhanny> HymToLive, i have limited bandwith over here
[03:05] <curley_sue> HELP my network-admin has an extra entry: ppp1 - I don't know how have i created it but i'll appreciate help removing it
[03:05] <s|k> hatake_kakashi: I'm not the only one with this problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=466277&postcount=2
[03:05] <DJ_tobias> k well, copying files now!
[03:05] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: it does on nvidia website, however, here's a funny twist.. I suspect you must be running dapper and dapper has probably got an updated xorg for it
[03:06] <dhanny> apt-move?? what it is for?
[03:06] <DJ_tobias> hopefully i wont need to play from cd
[03:06] <s|k> but you can see in that thread (  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064  ) that all the help in the world is for a different version
[03:06] <corvax> goto repositoriesclick add then custom
[03:06] <LjL> dhanny: hm, it explains that in the description
[03:06] <directhex> dhanny, apt-move is for moving an exact set of packages from one machien to another. apt-proxy is a better solution for your problem
[03:06] <KentJonathan> corvax repositories i dont see :(
[03:06] <iKernel> HymnToLife: Perhpas he'd just rather not waste his bandwidth?
[03:06] <s|k> I've purged nivida-glx hatake_kakashi
[03:07] <s|k> well I've had to reinstall it
[03:07] <LjL> directhex: but, "It can also build a partial or complete local mirror of a Debian binary distribution (including an ``installed-packages only'' mirror)."
[03:07] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: or it could be an issue with a slightly outdated driver that does not support 7800 gtx?
[03:07] <s|k> because the desktop crashes otherwise
[03:07] <iKernel> If you can spare bandwidth by serving up files locally on your network instead of downloading the packages on every computer, then do so IMO.
[03:07] <r0ckstarrrr> does anyone know what "Could not grab your mouse. A malicious client may  be eavesdropping on your session." means?
[03:07] <s|k> it's a brand new driver
[03:07] <iKernel> r0ckstarrrr: Just that
[03:07] <s|k> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[03:07] <s|k> the newest one
[03:07] <r0ckstarrrr> well actually how to fix it
[03:07] <LjL> directhex, dhanny: also, if you simply want a plain, *complete* mirror of the distribution, i suppose you can just forget about apt-proxy and apt-move, and just, well, mirror the site
[03:08] <hatake_kakashi> r0ckstarrrr: either you have another mouse or something that is taking over the dev.. or you may have been 'rooted' by script-kiddies with rootkits
[03:08] <directhex> LjL, am i wrong in thinking apt-proxy is dhanny's best option, then?
[03:08] <KentJonathan> corvax first  i dont see seeting
[03:08] <iKernel> r0ckstarrrr: It means it cannot get any/enough data from your mouse, therefore a bad guy may be eavesdropping on your session.
[03:08] <r0ckstarrrr> it happened when i just installed ubuntu, it says that for my  mouse andkeyboard
[03:08] <dhanny> Ljl, mirroring is my first oprion in deed, i have asked it here
[03:08] <LjL> directhex: not sure i've understood exactly what his needs are
[03:08] <Stormx2> Ack! Guys... I broke gnome :(
[03:08] <dhanny> but nobody could help me..
[03:09] <jonolsonroll2000> Stormx2, How? :(
[03:09] <b3nw> anyone know what codec's I need to install to play a .mp4 file?
[03:09] <LjL> dhanny: uh, if you want a full mirror, just run wget
[03:09] <corvax> paste are you in synaptic
[03:09] <corvax> ?
[03:09] <directhex> dhanny, in the time you've not done anyting, i've booted my laptop, installed apt-proxy, and tested it in vmware
[03:09] <iKernel> Stormx2: You should backup your configuartion before you screw around with it...
[03:09] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: yeah, that is the latest one, however you won't have much fun unless if you go in fair bit of lengths to get that to work, I have tried it as well and it was a pain
[03:09] <Stormx2> jonolsonroll2000: When I try to login, i get the little splash screen (with ubuntu written on it, and some icons come up below) and it just stops. Cept the icons don't come up
[03:09] <asdfmn> I'm trying to build something from the source, I have GCC, G++, and automake?
[03:09] <asdfmn> checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
[03:09] <Wolfwood> Gnome likes to break
[03:09] <dhanny> infact, i just want to mirror http://ubuntu.cbn.net.id for dapper packages only
[03:09] <dhanny> how ro do that?
[03:10] <s|k> what do I have to do hatake_kakashi ?
[03:10] <corvax> above the toolbar at the top
[03:10] <jonolsonroll2000> Stormx2, Did you make backups? :(
[03:10] <dhanny> how to do that?
[03:10] <Stormx2> iKernel: I didn't screw with it. I didn't even touch it!
[03:10] <s|k> how did you get it to work?
[03:10] <Stormx2> jonolsonroll2000: of what, exactly?!
[03:10] <KentJonathan> i dont in synaptic join the program
[03:10] <directhex> dhanny, do you really need a 15gib archive which changes by hundreds of megs a day?
[03:10] <LjL> dhanny: "wget --mirror http://ubuntu.cbn.net.id" i guess. haven't tried yet, just reading the man page
[03:10] <fossa> if i install ubuntu linux 5.10 without an internet connection, then when i boot into it at work, will it recognize and autoconfigure a connected ethernet?
[03:10] <jonolsonroll2000> Stormx2, The config files..that you messed around with.
[03:10] <hatake_kakashi> asdfmn: try apt-get install build-essentials
[03:10] <Stormx2> jonolsonroll2000: I didn't!!!
[03:10] <asdfmn> Oh
[03:10] <corvax> you fave      file   edit    package    settings  help
[03:10] <iKernel> Stormx2: You mean you have never logged into gnome on this installation before?
[03:10] <jonolsonroll2000> Stormx2, :(
[03:10] <KentJonathan> I am go to Sytem an then Admistation
[03:10] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, if there were some clear directions as to what steps I need to take that worked, I would be greatful
[03:10] <Stormx2> iKernel: I logged into gnome before, yes.
[03:10] <iKernel> k
[03:10] <jonolsonroll2000> Stormx2, Then i'm lost, ask someone more knowledgeable.
[03:10] <asdfmn> What repo is it in?
[03:11] <corvax> yes
[03:11] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, I don't think the driver is recompiling the kernel-module correctly
[03:11] <corvax> then open synaptic
[03:11] <KentJonathan> but he dont open :(
[03:11] <dhanny> 15 GB is ok, i think i could scheduled it to mirror every night
[03:11] <jrsims> quit
[03:11] <KentJonathan> this is my problem
[03:11] <corvax> does the dialog box come up
[03:11] <corvax> and ask for your password
[03:11] <directhex> dhanny, but *why*? apt-proxy would save you gigs of bandwidth
[03:11] <asdfmn> hatake_kakashi: What repository is build-essentials in?
[03:11] <corvax> ?
[03:11] <iKernel> Oh, why do people ALWAYS have problems on #ubuntu? Can't it just be a nice chit-chat session for once?
[03:11] <LjL> dhanny: it appears to be working here
[03:12] <Stormx2> iKernel: Its a support channel.
[03:12] <apeitheo> Help -- with wvdial I'm able to connect to the internet but the interface ppp0 doesn't exist (when I type ifconfig it only shows 'lo') what could be the problem?
[03:12] <Kr4t05> Ok
[03:12] <b3nw> is it possible to disable the popup for the battery fully charged?
[03:12] <LjL> dhanny: anyway, do you have an idea how big the ubuntu reps can be?
[03:12] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: mm :/ clear directions.. that would be technically impossible. you have to first get gcc3.4.5 and then you get any other relevant packages, you then get that and give it a shot I believe
[03:12] <iKernel> Stormx2: I thought someone would say that :)
[03:12] <KentJonathan> he dont open the synaptic is my prbolem
[03:12] <hatake_kakashi> !info build-essentials
[03:12] <Wolfwood> If this isn't the place for help with a decrepit open source OS, what is?
[03:12] <dhanny> Ljl, i dont' know
[03:12] <Stormx2> iKernel: xD well if you thought that, you shouldn't have said that then ^_^
[03:12] <hatake_kakashi> !info build-essential
[03:12] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[03:12] <Stormx2> Im uninstalling KDE
[03:12] <corvax> kent a dialog box should pop up and ask for your password
[03:12] <Stormx2> just incase that fucked it up
[03:12] <directhex> dhanny, why won't you just install apr-proxy and solve your problem once and for all?
[03:12] <dhanny> i just want to mirror dapper packages, not all ubuntu release
[03:12] <holycow> guys, whats the consensus on autopackage, its evil?
[03:13] <LjL> dhanny: i don't know either, but it will be in the order of tens/hundreds of gigabytes
[03:13] <corvax> if that doesnt happen  it wont run
[03:13] <holycow> !autopackage
[03:13] <ubotu> it has been said that autopackage is evil
[03:13] <dhanny> i'm installing apt-proxy right now..
[03:13] <hatake_kakashi> holycow: automatix = evil
[03:13] <holycow> hatake_kakashi, is autopackage coshure?
[03:13] <Wolfwood> I just uninstalled KDE as well. Did an "everything" installation of Fedora Core and then thought better of it.
[03:13] <Wolfwood> Or at least wanted to trim the fat afterwards
[03:13] <dhanny> dapper could be  tens/hundreds of gigabytes???
[03:13] <KentJonathan> :(
[03:13] <Stormx2> dhanny: No
[03:13] <Wolfwood> Oh yeah.. What is dapper?
[03:14] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, but my kernel uses gcc3.4
[03:14] <hatake_kakashi> holycow: nfi, but I'd steer away from it unless if you like to mess around in the CLI alot and wouldn't mind eventually living in it to solve your problems
[03:14] <Stormx2> dhanny: Not every package is installed by default
[03:14] <mike-w> all vnc clients won't load because of my display, how can i fix this?
[03:14] <s|k> will that matter?
[03:14] <fossa> anybody care to recommend a 19" lcd monitor
[03:14] <Stormx2> Wolfwood: The next release of ubuntu ^_^
[03:14] <sardopsycho> ok...I installed Totem Zine, the W32codecs, and both Totem, and Rhthymbox will not play MP3's, XvID, etc...
[03:14] <Wolfwood> Ah
[03:14] <s|k> what are the 'other relevant packages' ?
[03:14] <directhex> dhanny, 18504 packages of varying sizes
[03:14] <sardopsycho> did I miss something?
[03:14] <b3nw> is it possible to disable the popup for the battery fully charged?
[03:14] <LjL> dhanny: as stormx2 said, it depends on what you mean by "dapper". mirroring the dapper repository would certainly result in tens/hundreds gigs
[03:14] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: no I believe your kernel is compiled with 3.4.5, or generally all kernels precompiled for this distro
[03:14] <fossa> not to exceed $300
[03:14] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: cat /proc/version
[03:14] <LjL> dhanny: on the other hand, mirroring the contents of just the CD-ROM wouldn't. but then, why mirror that when you have the CD-ROM? =)
[03:14] <directhex> fossa, i recommend you spend a little more and get a 20" dell (which is 1600x1200, where 19" screens are 1280x1024)
[03:14] <Wolfwood> I can't figure out a good MPEG & AVI player for my system either
[03:14] <corvax> you need lame for mp3
[03:15] <Stormx2> OK, Ima try to get into GNOME again now. Wish me luck :D
[03:15] <hatake_kakashi> Wolfwood: try vlc
[03:15] <Wolfwood> Helix won't touch them, and Totem keeps wanting plug-ins
[03:15] <sardopsycho> no it was something else like xms???
[03:15] <mike-w> Wolfwood: totem-xine
[03:15] <sardopsycho> xmms?
[03:15] <Stormx2> sardopsycho: Use a player which has mp3 support in-the-box, like Audacious :)
[03:15] <null> mplayer
[03:15] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, do you know know what the other relevant packages might be?
[03:15] <Wolfwood> And I want to try VLC, but it's not listed in yum for some odd reason
[03:15] <holycow> hatake_kakashi, thx
[03:15] <QMario> I don't see why Office software should cost over $2NN where you can get OpenOffice2 for Ubuntu for free. :)
[03:15] <s|k> or where I could find them?
[03:15] <Wolfwood> Ah, so xine is an add-on for totem?
[03:15] <corvax> i like banshee
[03:15] <directhex> QMario, because people will pay
[03:15] <holycow> Wolfwood, yum? wtf? go back to #suse.  this is ubuntu
[03:15] <directhex> Wolfwood, no, xine has been around for years more than totem
[03:15] <Wolfwood> Heh, relax..
[03:15] <Wolfwood> OK
[03:15] <dhanny> i confuse.. :(
[03:16] <null> get amarok :)
[03:16] <carlk> how can I see the SMART stats for my IDE drive?
[03:16] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: well first get gcc3.4.5 and then try getting that latest nvidia, if it complains about this and that missing, you are pretty much left to get those and give it a shot
[03:16] <Wolfwood> I know this is ubuntu. I got to know it since I had ubuntu installed.
[03:16] <QMario> Holycow, what is "yum"?
[03:16] <corvax> its all about choice
[03:16] <corvax> lol
[03:16] <Wolfwood> yum is a lot like apt-get
[03:16] <directhex> dhanny, did you apt-get install apt-proxy on your server machine yet?
[03:16] <holycow> QMario, a shitty excuse for an installer
[03:16] <Wolfwood> Same syntax and function
[03:16] <s|k> okay I'll try it hatake_kakashi, thanks
[03:16] <hatake_kakashi> QMario: its a rpm front-end
[03:16] <Stormx2> oh boy i know why it won't boot into gnome
[03:16] <Kr4t05> Someone refresh my memory, what is that package would I use to execute terminal commands on a remote machine?
[03:17] <Wolfwood> ssh?
[03:17] <Stormx2> ssh?
[03:17] <corvax> try this from the cli wolf  sudo apt-get moo
[03:17] <directhex> yum is the yellowdog update manager, for yellow dog linux. it's an attempt at adding apt-style functionality to rpm
[03:17] <Kr4t05> Wolfwood: Yes
[03:17] <hatake_kakashi> Kr4t05: ssh and sshd is daemon
[03:17] <Kr4t05> Wolfwood: it was on the tip of my tongue. :P
[03:17] <dhanny> directhex, it still downloading right now..
[03:17] <dhanny> my bandwith very slow.. :(
[03:17] <sardopsycho> ok, I have the Multiverse and Universe repository's activated, I got totem-xie, the w32codecs, and both Totem and Rhythmbox will not play MP3's, Divx, XviD, etc..  Did I miss a download???
[03:17] <Wolfwood> not just YDL though, since Fedora Core 4 PPC uses it as well.. Did YDL develop it?
[03:17] <Kr4t05> kakashi: Naruto fan?
[03:17] <carlk> Kr4t05: do you have the sshd server installed on the remote box?
[03:17] <Stormx2> where is the configuration file which manages the GNOME session (specificly, the startup programs)
[03:17] <sixtymhz> buntu no jitsu!!
[03:18] <fossa> that is a $460 monitor!
[03:18] <Kr4t05> carlk: not yet
[03:18] <Kr4t05> carlk: It's on my to-do list
[03:18] <hatake_kakashi> Kr4t05: *sigh* yes but not a fan of the main character :p
[03:18] <dhanny> Hey.. why Naruto so much filler in it?
[03:18] <dhanny> sorry.. oot :D
[03:18] <sixtymhz> Gantz fans anyone?? :P
[03:18] <Kr4t05> kakashi: Me neither. Shikamaru, all the way! :P
[03:18] <carlk> Kr4t05: on the remote box, you need to install package: openssh-server
[03:18] <hatake_kakashi> <--- > * :)
[03:18] <Kr4t05> carlk: Thanks
[03:18] <sixtymhz> <3 Kr4t05
[03:18] <jvai> my-totem-xine will play mp3
[03:18] <directhex> fossa, true, but it's also got 50% more screen real-estate, since it's got a sensible resolution
[03:18] <sardopsycho> anyone?
[03:19] <Kr4t05> sixtymhz: Thanks...?
[03:19] <LjL> dhanny: if you have so little bandwidth, i really don't see how you could have a chance of mirroring even just the main repository! :\
[03:19] <sixtymhz> Shikamaru is the shadow jitsu right?
[03:19] <HymnToLife> Naruto stinks :/
[03:19] <directhex> LjL, (which is why he should use apt-proxy)
[03:19] <dhanny> directhex, it installed right now.. then what?
[03:19] <LjL> dhanny: but what's the problem anyway, you've got more than one computer with ubuntu?
[03:19] <sixtymhz> Its been ahile since I read Naruto.
[03:19] <hatake_kakashi> sixtymhz: no.. I think its the one with the dog
[03:19] <sixtymhz> almost two years.
[03:19] <LjL> directhex: guess so but i'm still missing something here
[03:19] <sixtymhz> Which one is the shadow one?
[03:19] <Kr4t05> sixtymhz: I believe, that and he's a Chuunin... unlike Naruto and the others. :] 
[03:19] <sixtymhz> Thats my fav.
[03:19] <Wolfwood> Got a 60MHz machine, sixtymhz?
[03:19] <Wolfwood> Reminds me of the first Power Mac
[03:19] <cyne> hi all! just wanted to say, i'm back to Ubuntu and it rocks :)
[03:20] <sixtymhz> Wolfwood : at one time I think I did :P
[03:20] <Wolfwood> Heh
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> sixtymhz: hmm.. I forgot lol, its been awhile since I last watched it as well heh
[03:20] <Kr4t05> Wolfwood: I'm installing Xubuntu to a 200MHz machine. :)
[03:20] <sixtymhz> congrats cyne !
[03:20] <Wolfwood> Ah
[03:20] <directhex> dhanny, on the machines you want to update on, as root, edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and change "http://archivefoo.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" to "http://yourserverhostnameorip:9999/ubuntu"
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> or maybe Shikamaru is the shadow one
[03:20] <sixtymhz> Kr4t05 : lemmie know how that works out plz.
[03:20] <Kr4t05> Fun
[03:20] <cyne> my friends couldn't believe it that i was in windows and 20 minutes later i was talking to them in Ubuntu on IRC
[03:20] <sixtymhz> Kr4t05 : Is shikamaru the shadow one?
[03:20] <fossa> will ubuntu recognize an ethernet port on boot, if it isn't connected during install?
[03:20] <Wolfwood> I have a 180 MHz Starmax sitting around, and the next highest I have is my iMac 233 MHz.
[03:20] <dhanny> i plan to bring my server to my friend office to make a mirror for the first time.. then bring it back to my office, and run the mirroring every night, not every time.. i think it could save my bandwith.. :D
[03:20] <corvax> wodo ya have the gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[03:21] <corvax> do you*
[03:21] <Kr4t05> sixtymhz: Compiling takes just a little while...  (I'm not sure, I haven't watched Naruto in ages.)
[03:21] <directhex> dhanny, use the hostname if you can talk about your server by hostname (i.e. if "ping servername" works), else use the ip address
[03:21] <corvax> for mp3
[03:21] <carlk> Kr4t05: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu - good for old box
[03:21] <directhex> dhanny, for security updates, use "http:///yourserverhostnameorip:9999/ubuntu-security"
[03:21] <Kr4t05> carlk: I'm installing it.
[03:21] <Kr4t05> carlk: Right now.
[03:21] <cyne> if i put a new graphics card in my PC will Ubuntu recognise it on boot?
[03:21] <sixtymhz> Kr4t05 : yeah thats is the one.  He is my fav.
[03:21] <HymnToLife> cyne> no
[03:22] <carlk> Kr4t05: I also have seen ubuntu-lite, but not sure what the diff is - you know?
[03:22] <dhanny> directhex, how about in the server which i installed apt-proxy?
[03:22] <HymnToLife> you'll have to dpkg-reconfigure
[03:22] <Kr4t05> sixtymhz: :)
[03:22] <cyne> HymnToLife, that's all?
[03:22] <HymnToLife> yes
[03:22] <directhex> dhanny, apt-proxy comes with a sensible default config. you can just leave it
[03:22] <cyne> nice
[03:22] <HymnToLife> run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:22] <Wolfwood> I was wondering whether xfce was yet another desktop environment after I saw it listed in yum. Now I see that it is. Neat.
[03:22] <cyne> thanks :)
[03:23] <Stormx2> Wolfwood: Im in it now cause GNOME is broken
[03:23] <Stormx2> And I can't find the bloody config file
[03:23] <sixtymhz> Im a little interested in the UBuntu-lite.
[03:23] <Kr4t05> carlk: Not sure...
[03:23] <holycow> sixtymhz, stop saying stupid shit
[03:23] <Rug> Howdy all
[03:23] <holycow> sixtymhz, wtf is ubuntu lite?
[03:23] <Kr4t05> carlk: It's on the forums some where...
[03:23] <holycow> sixtymhz, just uninstall what you don't need
[03:23] <LjL> holycow: go away please
[03:23] <holycow> LjL, you know exactly where you can biteme
[03:24] <sardopsycho> ok, I have the Multiverse and Universe repository's activated, I got totem-xine, XMMS,  the w32codecs, and both Totem and Rhythmbox will not play MP3's, Divx, XviD, etc..  Did I miss a download???
[03:24] <Rug> Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
[03:24] <HymnToLife> !mp3
[03:24] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:24] <corvax> sard try this
[03:24] <directhex> dhanny, then you can just aptitude update & aptitude dist-upgrade as per usual on your workstation machines - it will get an updated package list from the proxy (which may or may not get one from the web), and updated packages as needed (from the proxy, or maybe the web if needed)
[03:24] <corvax> get gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:24] <sixtymhz> holycow : I dont need to uninstall anything... but somepeople need a liter version.  So its good to know where to point those people into the right direction.
[03:24] <LjL> holycow: i don't know what you mean, but please either stop using that kind of language, or leave
[03:24] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, I try sudo apt-get install  build-essential gcc gcc-3.4.5
[03:24] <s|k>  but I get E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4.5
[03:24] <directhex> dhanny, and you can apt-get install stuff too - the proxy will download the right packages if it needs to, or send something from its cache if it has it
[03:24] <_wd3_>  hi
[03:24] <crimsun> it's gcc-3.4
[03:25] <s|k> :|
[03:25] <sixtymhz> hey _wd3_ : How is the install?
[03:25] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, was saying it's 3.4.5
[03:25] <holycow> sixtymhz, there is no such thing as a lite version, the term makes no sense whatsoever in relationship to debian
[03:25] <s|k> that's whyat cat /proc/version tells me
[03:25] <pbransford> can anyone recommend a good firewall utility (that starts on boot, not on X loading) other than using a startup script?
[03:25] <holycow> or debian like distros
[03:25] <s|k> hat*
[03:25] <Kr4t05> carlk: Ubuntu-Lite: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98233
[03:25] <sixtymhz> holycow : www.ubuntulite.org
[03:25] <green_earz> pbransford: shorewall
[03:25] <Rug> holycow: perhaps you are thinking of a 'server' install.
[03:25] <pavlovsdog> !info lokkit
[03:25] <sixtymhz> Please get educated before you start talking.
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> crimsun: s|k needs to get the one that's been precompiled to match kernel one.. funny how ubuntu never include it in their repos -_-
[03:25] <ubotu> lokkit: (basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface)), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.50.22-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 124 kB, Installed size: 796 kB
[03:25] <s|k> hatake_kakashi, where do I get it? :0
[03:25] <dhanny>  oo... i understand right now.. so we do nothing in the machine where apt-proxy installed
[03:26] <holycow> sixtymhz, you have got to be kidding me? people actually create a page for ubuntu lite?
[03:26] <holycow> sixtymhz, well i stand corrected
[03:26] <pbransford> green_earz, got a GUI configuration?
[03:26] <dfTh> !wmv
[03:26] <directhex> dhanny, right
[03:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:26] <holycow> stupidity knows no bounds
[03:26] <crimsun> hatake_kakashi: huh? You mean the one I just mentioned?
[03:26] <dfTh> !FreeFormats
[03:26] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: you may have to get it from googling, its in the gnu gcc repos I think
[03:26] <LjL> holycow: precisely. arrogance too.
[03:26] <s|k> okay hatake_kakashi thanks
[03:26] <sardopsycho> alright, strike that....I got Totem to play MP3s - but not Rhythmbox...any ideas?
[03:26] <dhanny> now i have these two lines i my workstation source.list:
[03:26] <sixtymhz> I still <3 holycow and don't stop talking dirty to me.
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> crimsun: yes, gcc3.4 will not be suitable for the latest nvidia-kernel to be compiled, they are that specific.. not even 4.0.1
[03:26] <pbransford> Am i the only one that thinks no firewall in ubuntu is stupid? even if you dont need it you should ALWAYS have one
[03:26] <ruzgar> !wine
[03:27] <dhanny> deb http://192.168.1.43:9999/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[03:27] <fossa> this is high level tech help. you could be walking your wife's relative through windows update. oh wait, that's what I'm doing on the phone right now.
[03:27] <LjL> dhanny: basically when you install a package on your client *or* on your server, apt-cache will cache it, so that if you later install the same package on the other machine, it won't have to be downloaded
[03:27] <_wd3_> sixty i loss the last message from u , i want to fdisk then reformat a hd that had linux on it, how?
[03:27] <crimsun> hatake_kakashi: it's been suitable afaik
[03:27] <dhanny> deb http://192.168.1.43/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> pbransford: its not that ubuntu doesn't have firewall.. it does, however its not configured
[03:27] <dhanny> o..
[03:27] <Rug> pbransford: why? if there are zero open ports in a default install, then a firewall will do nothing
[03:27] <pbransford> hatake_kakashi, thats what i meant
[03:27] <Stormx2> Yay! GNOME is back!!
[03:27] <dhanny> ok..
[03:27] <dhanny> :)
[03:27] <holycow> LjL, its is a terrible disservice to let misconceptions about how this stuff works lurk around.  things like ubuntu lite are the height or idiocy.  those of you that have the time and inclination should work a wee bit harder to allow for knowledge to bloom, not misinformation to spread
[03:27] <ruzgar> is there a emulator better than wine?
[03:27] <directhex> dhanny, change the bottom line to say "ubuntu-security". otherwise, that's fine#
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> crimsun: no its not, try compiling the latest nvidia module yourself and you would know what I mean
[03:27] <pbransford> Rug, how often does a default install stay a default install
[03:27] <sixtymhz> _wd3_ : Someone might be able to help you because I do not have the time to walk you through since I am about to leave.
[03:28] <Rug> ruzgar: cedega or vmware
[03:28] <holycow> at best ubuntu lite should be a section in the wiki
[03:28] <_wd3_> sixy thanx
[03:28] <Stormx2> What is ubuntu lite?
[03:28] <crimsun> hatake_kakashi: it does work here.
[03:28] <Wolfwood> I suppose I'll install xfce4 just to have a gnome alternative, just in case.
[03:28] <ruzgar> ok
[03:28] <LjL> holycow: whatever. that you disagree with something or someone doesn't mean you have to insult that something or someone. that's all i care about in the context of this channel. so, please keep a lower profile.
[03:28] <ruzgar> is cedega free?
[03:28] <Rug> pbransford: at that time you could install/setup a firewall
[03:28] <hatake_kakashi> pbransford: well they left it unconfigured so that people can set it up themselves later. Its to prevent un-necessary hassles and frustrations
[03:28] <hatake_kakashi> ruzgar: no
[03:28] <ruzgar> !cedega
[03:28] <ruzgar> ok
[03:28] <mike-w> anyone know how to resolve vnc client issues?
[03:28] <Wolfwood> A hammer
[03:28] <holycow> LjL, or what?
[03:28] <hatake_kakashi> crimsun: which version do you have? and did you compile the kernel with gcc3.4?
[03:28] <Wolfwood> Oh wait, that's Microsoft issues..
[03:28] <dhanny> what is the differst between "dapper-security" and "ubuntu-security", i use "dapper-security" by floowing the default in the source.list
[03:28] <holycow> LjL, i dare you
[03:28] <Rug> Wolfwood: I prefer Xfce too
[03:28] <crimsun> hatake_kakashi: I've also been doing this since before Nvidia had a decent kbuild system, so I'm aware of ignoring $CC.
[03:29] <LjL> holycow: or nothing. i said "please", no?
[03:29] <Wolfwood> I can't say I prefer it yet - never have used it. I will though.
[03:29] <Stormx2> holycow, LjL, make love not war
[03:29] <pbransford> hatake_kakashi, a simple option during installation (block incomming connections with firewall or do not touch?)
[03:29] <ruzgar> !vmware
[03:29] <pbransford> Something.
[03:29] <directhex> ruzgar, last i checked, it was 9 with 3 months' support, support is 3 a month subsequently. you only get updates if you have a valid support contract
[03:29] <nalioth> holycow: LjL: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:29] <crimsun> hatake_kakashi: I'm on Dapper, and I don't even use Nvidia.
[03:29] <pavlovsdog> crimsun: you want the kernel-headers
[03:29] <pavlovsdog> oh nm
[03:29] <crimsun> heh.
[03:29] <LjL> nalioth: please grep the logs before thinking we're just discussing about something. i think holycow should understand what this channel is about.
[03:29] <_wd3_> holycow i how can i fdisk a hd that had linux on it to reformat it? right now the bios shows it but when i use win98 disk it doesn't shw up a d: drive.
[03:29] <directhex> dhanny, you just want it to say "http://192.168.1.43:9999/ubuntu-security dapper-security main restricted" on your bottom line
[03:29] <hatake_kakashi> crimsun: well, I used to think of the method of having to get the one suitable for it because nvidia is so b*tchy over small things like that
[03:30] <wastrel> LjL:  this channel is logged?  heh i should be more careful what i say
[03:30] <fossa> maybe you coudl boot a livecd then use the linux version of fdisk
[03:30] <ruzgar> !totem
[03:30] <Stormx2> wastrel: Big brother :P
[03:30] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ruzgar
[03:30] <hatake_kakashi> pbransford: if you set that on during installation, you may end up not being able to check for the correct repos, etc
[03:30] <holycow> wd3 the easiest thing in gnome is to use gnomeparted gui, in kde qtparted
[03:30] <Stormx2> ruzgar: please... /msg ubotu <word>
[03:30] <wastrel> Stormx2:  well their logs aren't available to the public ;] 
[03:30] <Wolfwood> !totem
[03:30] <LjL> wastrel: "log" is a way of saying... it's logged as long as someone's logging it, or at least as long as i can scroll back :)
[03:30] <crimsun> wastrel: yes, it is.
[03:30] <Wolfwood> Gee, have to wait 15 seconds. That's nice.
[03:30] <holycow> wd3 super easy to get rid of boot sector and reformat.  you should be able to reformat with ntfs too, or fat32 if your doing win98
[03:30] <Wolfwood> !totem
[03:30] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Wolfwood
[03:31] <QMario> What is the DCC exploit?
[03:31] <purplefeltangel> in the Network Tools dialog, what does "location" do?
[03:31] <Wolfwood> Yeah, what is that?
[03:31] <crimsun> wastrel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[03:31] <nalioth> QMario: a free k-line for its users
[03:31] <LjL> QMario: something you should worry about if you're using a NetGear router.
[03:31] <holycow> purplefeltangel, it lets you set up multiple network configurations
[03:31] <pbransford> hatake_kakashi, then the user setting it should know better. OK, only add the option to expert install?
[03:31] <pavlovsdog> it's a four letter word
[03:31] <holycow> purplefeltangel, for example you can setup home and office, both of which would have different configs typically
[03:31] <purplefeltangel> holycow: oh, thanks
[03:32] <hatake_kakashi> pbransford: probably, but try consulting that with the ubuntu-devs first
[03:32] <QMario> Hello nalioth!!! ;)
[03:32] <_wd3_> i can't get ubuntu up , after last 3 installs it ask for user and pass, well after i type info it brings me to the root or "name$"
[03:32] <wastrel> crimsun:  i shall commence self censorship in the hope of avoiding public ridicule ;] 
[03:32] <nalioth> hi Q
[03:32] <pavlovsdog> lol
[03:33] <Stormx2> remind me, when is dapper due?
[03:33] <directhex> dhanny, it's half past 2 in the morning. are you all sorted?
[03:33] <xapaho> hi -- could you please help me with grub and linux multiboot ? i did let sarge installer format my /boot (I already know that I'm a idiot), and grub won't start since then (prints endless "GRUB GRUB GRUB GRUB...." messages).
[03:33] <HymnToLife> _wd3_> you mean it asks you to type the user/passwd again and again during install ?
[03:33] <LjL> !tell Stormx2 about dapper
[03:33] <pavlovsdog> _wd3_: gdm isn't loading is what you have there i think
[03:33] <_wd3_> yes
[03:33] <_wd3_> hymm yes
[03:33] <purplefeltangel> on evolution i keep getting an error message that says something like "unable to sync inbox and summary" or something, and some of my messages are showing up twice . . . anyone have any idea whats wrong?
[03:33] <_wd3_> pavlovsdog thanx also
[03:33] <HymnToLife> _wd3_> is by any chance your /home partition mounted to a fat32 ?
[03:34] <LjL> ho-ho-home mounted as far32? brrrrr
[03:34] <pavlovsdog> _wd3_: wht happens if you type startx after you log into that weird looking root or "name$"
[03:34] <_wd3_> hymm it  was a fresh formated fat32 then i installed ubuntu
[03:34] <holycow> wd3 then you cant do it in ubuntu, you need another utility for this ... there are a bunch of online free utilities for this, ithink fdisk from a win98 bootdisk might do this? not sure i only use linux i have no clue about windows anymore
[03:35] <pavlovsdog> oh nm
[03:35] <HymnToLife> so that's it
[03:35] <HymnToLife> _wd3_> your /home MUST be ext3
[03:35] <_wd3_> hymm it is ext3 and my swap is config also
[03:35] <holycow> wd3 what i do is i have a hard drive tray on my usb port, i drop an hd in and use the tools i mentioned to do similar things, sounds like you are trying to do this for a drive that is slave or is primary drive
[03:36] <corvax> mine is resizerfs
[03:36] <pavlovsdog> ok wd40 type startx
[03:36] <HymnToLife> welwhatever FS Linux can write natively
[03:36] <holycow> wd3 if you can i would recommend is booting your system off of a different hd, and having that drive as slave/secondary master/whatever, then using either windows or linux tools to do that
[03:36] <_wd3_> holycow ur good, yes the hd with linux on it is slave i inserted win98 disk but the hd doesn't show up as d:
[03:37] <liquidindian> Hi, can anyone help me?  my USB hard drive has suddenly stopped being recognised.  When I try to mount all, I get the message /dev/sda1 does not exist...
[03:37] <dhanny> directhex, should i configure the source.list in the apt-proxy server??
[03:37] <holycow> wd3 correct, it cannot see the partitions ... but it should show up under system something or other.  you should be able to download windows tools that can see the device, reformat it an dmount it under windows
[03:37] <corvax> i like to use  boot and nuke
[03:37] <_wd3_> holycow when i boot up win2k the linux hd doesn't even show up
[03:37] <corvax> to wpe a drive
[03:37] <HymnToLife> _wd3_> Win can't read linux FS natively
[03:37] <HymnToLife> there are tools to do that hough
[03:38] <holycow> wd3 it doesn't show up as d, but if you right click on my computer, select manage, to to system tools or whatever, the device should show up
[03:38] <corvax> dban
[03:38] <dhanny> directhex, should i configure the source.list in the apt-proxy server same as the workstation???
[03:38] <holycow> wd3 windows just can't mount the file system but it can see the device for sure
[03:38] <_wd3_> hymm and holy thanks i'll try that .
[03:38] <HymnToLife> holycow> it can
[03:38] <directhex> dhanny, you can if you want. there's no major reason to
[03:38] <HymnToLife> not natively but there are tools to do it
[03:38] <directhex> dhanny, are the clients behaving as you expect them to?
[03:38] <_wd3_> hymm what tools
[03:39] <LjL> directhex, dhanny: uh, what would be the reason of *using* apt-proxy if that is not done? :o)
[03:39] <corvax> there is an ext2 and ext3 driver
[03:39] <corvax> for win
[03:39] <LjL> _wd3_: google for "ext2 windows", you'll find - i think - three
[03:39] <_wd3_> holycow the bios sees the hd when it boots but in win
[03:40] <_wd3_> ljl thanks
[03:40] <holycow> wd3, your mixing up your terminology
[03:40] <holycow> windows 'sees' the device
[03:40] <liquidindian> Anyone know where my hard drive might be if not at /dev/sda1?
[03:40] <holycow> wd3, windows just doesn't know what to do with the partition information so it cannot MOUNT it as d:
[03:40] <holycow> get it?
[03:40] <LjL> liquidindian: /dev/hda1 if it's IDE
[03:40] <HymnToLife> _wd3_> http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/#ext2fsd
[03:40] <holycow> i.e. it doesn't show up as d: but its there
[03:40] <LjL> liquidindian: or something other than "1" if it's not primary master, first partition, i guess
[03:40] <_wd3_> holy yes ur ok
[03:40] <_wd3_> hymm thanks
[03:40] <liquidindian> LjL, it's a USB drive.
[03:41] <corvax> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[03:41] <LjL> liquidindian: oh, then i don't quite have a suggestion other than /dev/sda1
[03:41] <dhanny> right now i installed apt-proxy in the machine (as server) which using Ubuntu Breezy, but all of my workstation is using Dapper Drake, it is necesary to configure the server?
[03:41] <directhex> LjL, on the apt-proxy machine, makes no difference. apt-proxy uses /var/cache/apt/archives for its cache, so if you update the proxy itself, there's no difference whether the updates come straight frmo archive.ubuntu.com (and into /var/cache/apt/archive), or from the proxy (which, running locally, is sticking things into, um, /var/cache/apt/archive)
[03:41] <purplefeltangel> in evolution i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9737
[03:41] <holycow> wd3 in the time you took to ask these questions you could of googled up the links they just gave you tho :)
[03:41] <purplefeltangel> can someone help?
[03:41] <directhex> dhanny, no. apt-proxy will just work
[03:41] <jerware> fellaz
[03:42] <_wd3_> holy thanks
[03:42] <LjL> directhex: oh, i see
[03:42] <jonolsonroll2000> holycow, I should put a perma message on my gaim "Did you try google first?" ;)
[03:42] <lampshade> anyone know why I would get less battery life with linux than with windows?  I'm trying to figure this out because it has been cut by nearly and hour
[03:42] <holycow> jonolsonroll2000, yeah it requires a remarkable amount of energy to retrain users to google, its fine tho
[03:43] <dhanny> ok..
[03:43] <wastrel> jonolsonroll2000:  you're using gaim for irc?
[03:43] <dhanny> admin@sta41:~$ sudo apt-get update \
[03:43] <dhanny> Get: 1 http://lserver dapper Release.gpg [189B] 
[03:43] <jonolsonroll2000> wastrel, No sir.
[03:43] <jonolsonroll2000> wastrel, I was referring more to my friends who ask me questions a lot.
[03:43] <dhanny> horeeeeeeee... it work.......
[03:43] <_wd3_> brb
[03:43] <wastrel> oic.  :] 
[03:44] <poningru> is there one command to kill X?
[03:44] <kairu0> how stable/unstable is dapper right now?
[03:44] <dhanny> it updateing right now.. via apt-proxy server.. :D
[03:44] <LjL> poningru: what about ctrl+alt+backspace? or you actually need a command?
[03:44] <Rug> ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:44] <pavlovsdog> /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[03:44] <poningru> that just restarts
[03:44] <poningru> I need to kill it
[03:44] <directhex> dhanny, good good. can i go to bed now?
[03:44] <LjL> poningru: then what pavlovsdog said
[03:44] <poningru> oh ok
[03:44] <dhanny> kairu), i still dont know.. i just install it last night
[03:44] <Rug> Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
[03:45] <wastrel> heh
[03:45] <baasnad> hello
[03:45] <poningru> yeah stuart
[03:45] <jonolsonroll2000> westrel, Although I thought but never explored that there was IRC on gaim?
[03:45] <poningru> he is a mozilla hacker
[03:45] <pavlovsdog> yuk yuk yuk ... yuck
[03:45] <dhanny> ok.. thank you so much directhex..... I love you!!! :))
[03:45] <s|k> why doen't they have the correct gcc version in the repository?
[03:45] <elkbuntu> Rug, lol that was a pun in itself
[03:45] <s|k> my kernel is built with 3.4.5 and all they have in the repository is 3.4
[03:45] <Rug> yes, thankyou
[03:45] <kairu0> dhanny, any problems yet?
[03:45] <poningru> s|k: um...
[03:45] <wastrel> jonolsonroll2000:  there is an irc plugin but it's not like a full featured irc client
[03:45] <s|k> I'm looking at these compiling instructions for 3.4.5 and I'm just lost
[03:45] <dhanny> kairu0, not yet.. it still updating the package list.. :)
[03:46] <poningru> Se7h: would you mind turning that stuff off?
[03:46] <kairu0> haha ok
[03:46] <LjL> gcc-3.4 (GCC) 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)
[03:46] <LjL> s|k: "gcc-3.4 --version" gives ^^
[03:46] <jonolsonroll2000> wastrel, Ah, K.
[03:46] <poningru> s|k: 3.4 and 3.4.5 should be the same
[03:46] <Se7h> poningru sure it was a mistaken mouse click
[03:46] <Se7h> sorry
[03:46] <baasnad> Where would be a good place for me to read to find out how to make the Gnome dropdown menus update with all of the applications that I just downloaded / updated?
[03:46] <dhanny> just in one computer.. i shoul try update in anothe workstion after this one finished, so i could see if the apt-proxy work or not.. :)
[03:46] <poningru> there should only be minor bug fixes
[03:46] <poningru> Se7h: np
[03:46] <s|k> poningru, hatake_kakashi tells me they're not
[03:46] <s|k> :/
[03:47] <poningru> hmm
[03:47] <directhex> dhanny, if you like. i think you see how it works now, at any rate
[03:47] <LjL> s|k: oh well, *my* gcc-3.4 from the repository definitely reports itself as version 3.4.5 as you can see
[03:47] <poningru> yeah my breezy one does too
[03:47] <dhanny> yeah.. :)
[03:47] <Se7h> this thing od the external hd going into 'sleep-mode' is realy annoying
[03:48] <Se7h> does anyone knows how to solve this?
[03:48] <hatake_kakashi> poningru: the nvidia installer are very specific about which gcc was the kernel compiled for however crimsun has pointed out to ignore $CC. That I am not too sure on how to go about on it
[03:48] <s|k> LjL, Linux version 2.6.12-10-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prer elease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 Mon Feb 13 12:13:15 UTC 2006
[03:48] <s|k>  is what mine says
[03:48] <poningru> hmm ic
[03:48] <dhanny> directhex, are you not sleepy.. ;) sorry to make you awake this morning.. :D
[03:48] <poningru> s|k: what exactly are you trying to compile?
[03:48] <LjL> s|k: yup... and it does say "gcc version 3.4.5" doesn't it?
[03:48] <hatake_kakashi> poningru: latest nvidia module
[03:48] <carlk> Kr4t05: I was wondering what the diff is betwen xubuntu and u-lite - like why would someone want one or the other
[03:48] <poningru> oh latest
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> in evolution i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9737 -- can someone help me please????
[03:49] <poningru> s|k: you sure you cant find binaries?
[03:49] <directhex> it's exactly the same build - "(gcc version 3.4.5 20050809" versus "(GCC) 3.4.5 20050809"
[03:49] <s|k> poningru, I'm trying to install the latest nvidia driver
[03:49] <hatake_kakashi> poningru: not the one in the repos but the one on nvidia's site because s|k's xorg requires it
[03:49] <pinpoint> whats the point of runnin a program with an &
[03:49] <pinpoint> say, xmms &
[03:49] <poningru> ah ic
[03:49] <pinpoint> in terminal
[03:49] <hatake_kakashi> pinpoint: puts it in background
[03:49] <JoshT> Well, I've tried all sorts but the damn thing still sits there for 2 mins every time I click a hyperlink.  Pesky thing. ;'(
[03:49] <pinpoint> do i want to do that for xmms
[03:49] <HymnToLife> are kernel updates really necessary for servrs ?
[03:49] <poningru> s|k: iirc gcc will let you compile using an older version compatibility hold on let me check
[03:49] <s|k> how do I tell what xorg version I have?
[03:49] <dhanny> Hey.. hey.. is there anybody have an idea to build a distro for blind people based on Ubuntu?????
[03:50] <LjL> pinpoint: not necessarily. if might want to if you want to keep using that terminal before xmms quits
[03:50] <dhanny> i think its good idea.. i see there is a distro called Oralinux..
[03:50] <hatake_kakashi> pinpoint: that's the question you should ask yourself, furthermore I think xmms is more of a GUI frontend.. you should try something like mplayer which can play in consoles
[03:50] <directhex> dhanny, regular ubuntu, plus a live-in midget to sit next to the computer & read out all the screens
[03:50] <LjL> s|k: i could suggest "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg"
[03:51] <pinpoint> ah
[03:51] <pinpoint> thankies
[03:51] <dhanny> regular ubuntu? what is it?
[03:51] <poningru> brb
[03:51] <LjL> hah
[03:51] <liquidindian> !pastebin
[03:51] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[03:51] <s|k> LjL, what's the difference between breezy and dapper?
[03:51] <s|k> I don't see that written anywhere
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> s|k: breezy = stable, dapper = development
[03:52] <LjL> s|k: breezy is the current version of Ubuntu (aka 5.10). dapper will be the next version (6.04)
[03:52] <s|k> oh okay
[03:52] <LjL> !tell s|k about dapper
[03:53] <lukey-> !tell lukey- about dapper
[03:53] <liquidindian> Could someone have a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9738  and tell me if my USB hard drive is somewhere in there and I can't see it?
[03:54] <iG-Shoot-Me> Im thinking of installing ubuntu on my computer..  I already have a free partition... If something goes wrong and fucks up, is there a chance my files get deleted?
[03:54] <dhanny> s|k, dapper is better the breezy when it released.. :D
[03:54] <LjL> liquidindian: don't think.
[03:54] <LjL> liquidindian: if you try mounting /dev/sda1, it errors out?
[03:54] <directhex> iG-Shoot-Me, if you're not resizing partitions, it's pretty unlikely
[03:54] <cp7mm39> hello all new to linux, tryin to figure this out
[03:54] <dhanny> one month to go to dapper relased.. but i have installed it in all of wortkstation in my office.. :)
[03:54] <kairu0> liquidindian, its not in there
[03:55] <liquidindian> Yep, it's in my fstab, it says it doesn't exist.
[03:55] <iG-Shoot-Me> directhex: So I only need 1 partition?
[03:55] <liquidindian> It's definitely plugged in :)
[03:55] <lukey-> ig: itll take that unpartitoned space and reallocate it
[03:55] <LjL> liquidindian: is the "usb-storage" module loaded? (try lsmod | grep usb)
[03:55] <directhex> iG-Shoot-Me, as many as you feel like, really. i tend to have a small (50mb) /boot, a swap partition, then either one large / or ~10gb for / and the rest for /home
[03:55] <directhex> or maybe some for /tmp
[03:55] <directhex> it's really up to you. the installer has some suggestions
[03:55] <cp7mm39> does anyone know how to install programs on this system?
[03:55] <lukey-> what you need to do is make sure that you dont overwrite your main partition
[03:56] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont understand that..  Boots and swap and stuff
[03:56] <LjL> !tell cp7mm39 about apt
[03:56] <w4r> hi all
[03:56] <liquidindian> LjL, what am I looking for in the output?
[03:56] <lukey-> ig: its not that important... everything is done automatically for you
[03:56] <Rug> Can you add 'cluster' capabilities to an existing server?  (I have 2 unused boxes and 1 existing LAMP server that I want to create a 3-node cluster.)  will it kill the existing server?
[03:56] <cp7mm39> what's apt?
[03:56] <LjL> cp7mm39: also, please read the FAQ list that's in the topic of this channel
[03:56] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know how to set a static network IP in terminal?
[03:56] <LjL> liquidindian: simply if a module named "usb-storage" appears
[03:56] <mikebot> anyone know how i can view all the hardware ubuntu recognizes in my computer?
[03:56] <w4r> its a thing you use to install programs on debian system
[03:56] <cp7mm39> thanks LjL
[03:56] <mikebot> is it the device database?
[03:56] <iG-Shoot-Me> Im setting up a dual boot.. thats just done auto for you, if you select it right?
[03:56] <liquidindian> usb_storage            64704  0
[03:57] <LjL> cp7mm39: APT is Ubuntu's package management system. Ubuntu's link should explain it a little
[03:57] <iG-Shoot-Me> If something DOES go wrong, I will still have windows and all the rest of my programs & Files?
[03:57] <lukey-> if you already have an os on the system... the installer will detect that
[03:57] <Kr4t05> iG-Shoot-Me: When you install, it will load GRUB for you, yes.
[03:57] <iG-Shoot-Me> If something DOES go wrong, I will still have windows and all the rest of my programs & Files?
[03:57] <cp7mm39> cool
[03:57] <Kr4t05> iG-Shoot-Me: If you don't over-write your Windows Partition.
[03:57] <lukey-> ig: the only thing that could go wrong and delete your files is if you delete your main partition
[03:57] <green_earz> Kr4t05: check out etherconf to configure the ether card to static
[03:57] <cp7mm39> i would really like to use this system and I dont want to give up to quick
[03:57] <Kr4t05> green_earz: Thanks
[03:58] <green_earz> np
[03:58] <mikebot> can someone help me get my dell printer working please
[03:58] <iG-Shoot-Me> I have programs on 1 partition, and files on another.. the third is blank
[03:58] <LjL> liquidindian: mount tells you that /dev/sda1 doesn't exist?
[03:58] <lukey-> so dont modify those two partitions that you have your stuff on
[03:58] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> then be careful not to delete your two partitions
[03:58] <iG-Shoot-Me> How?
[03:58] <HymnToLife> and verything should go OK
[03:58] <lukey-> when you do the installer
[03:58] <LjL> cp7mm39: it's not too hard using, and this channel can usually be of help
[03:58] <lukey-> it asks you what partitions you want to delete
[03:58] <Rug> Ever have the feeling that nobody ever listens to you?
[03:58] <green_earz> Kr4t05: aptitude show etherconf
[03:58] <Rug> =)
[03:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> Did someone hear something?
[03:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> :P
[03:59] <cp7mm39> well so far everyone seems friendly
[03:59] <lukey-> and what partition you want to install ubuntu to
[03:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> Do I need to delete any?
[03:59] <cp7mm39> thanks LjL
[03:59] <Rug> cp7mm39: give me a second I'll fix that
[03:59] <HymnToLife> lmao Rug
[03:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> Do I need to delete any partitions?
[03:59] <cp7mm39> lol k Rug
[03:59] <Rug> iG-Shoot-Me: nope
[03:59] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> yes, the blank one, most likely
[03:59] <mikebot> anyone know about printers? dell maybe? ubuntu?
[04:00] <Rug> Mind if I ask my question again?
[04:00] <HymnToLife> and create another patition instead (or more) to install linux on
[04:00] <liquidindian> LjL, I have this line in my fstab: /dev/sda1       /mnt/extdrive   ext3    defaults        0       0
[04:00] <Rug> mikebot: Samsung work the best with Linux
[04:00] <LjL> cp7mm39: i just had Ubotu send you another link, which explains how to add the "Universe" repository. thought you might want that, since it adds about 13000 programs to the list of programs that you can install
[04:00] <mikebot> Rug, i mean i have a dell printer and i want to make it work
[04:00] <DJ_tobias> bash: ./fixinstall: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[04:00] <DJ_tobias>  why does it say this when i have read/write permissions?
[04:00] <lukey-> ig.. try this
[04:00] <liquidindian> LjL, and it says that it doesn't exist
[04:00] <Rug> mikebot: did you try google?
[04:00] <lukey-> put the disk in your drive and reboot
[04:00] <LjL> liquidindian: /dev/sda /media/usb0 auto ,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid,user 0 0
[04:01] <cp7mm39> cool thanks LjL
[04:01] <lukey-> see if there is anything that confuses you
[04:01] <lukey-> if so
[04:01] <lukey-> come back
[04:01] <lukey-> and ask
[04:01] <iG-Shoot-Me> I can do that?
[04:01] <wastrel> mikebot:  did you find out if your printer is supported at www.linuxprinting.org ?
[04:01] <iG-Shoot-Me> I can just leave the setup?
[04:01] <lukey-> yes
[04:01] <LjL> liquidindian: this is mine. though, really, usb disks get mounted under /media/usbdisk, not /media/usb0 as that suggest
[04:01] <iG-Shoot-Me> And windows will be ok? :)
[04:01] <mikebot> Rug, yeah, but i don't know what kind of dell printer i have, which is why i was wondering how i could check what hardware ubuntu recognizes
[04:01] <lukey-> yes
[04:01] <lukey-> ig
[04:01] <iG-Shoot-Me> Ok
[04:01] <lukey-> have you ever installed windows before?
[04:01] <Rug> mikebot: how are you connecting it to your PC?
[04:01] <iG-Shoot-Me> No
[04:02] <iG-Shoot-Me> I built my comp but my bro installed windows
[04:02] <mikebot> Rug, via usb
[04:02] <lukey-> i see
[04:02] <Rug> excellent
[04:02] <cp7mm39> hey that link thing is frigin cool
[04:02] <LjL> liquidindian: i do think you might want to try /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1, as i'm not sure USB disks necessarily need to be partitioned
[04:02] <lukey-> k
[04:02] <lukey-> good luck
[04:02] <Rug> mikebot: in the terminal type lsusb  and see what it says about your dell printer
[04:02] <liquidindian> LjL, I'll have a look there.  Thing is, it was working yesterday.
[04:02] <cp7mm39> thanks guy's
[04:02] <Rug> cp7mm39: wait a sec I ddin't slap you around yet
[04:03] <cp7mm39> lol
[04:03] <dfTh> how do you change permission of a file using 'ls' ?
[04:03] <mikebot> Rug, Dell COmputer Corp.
[04:03] <LjL> dfTh: you don't. you change it using "chmod"
[04:03] <LjL> !tell dfTh about cli
[04:03] <cp7mm39> lol
[04:03] <dfTh> ok
[04:03] <HymnToLife> dfTh> you don't
[04:03] <pinpoint> whats that program that looks like itunes
[04:03] <HymnToLife> you use chmod to chnge permissions
[04:03] <pinpoint> it also streams internet radio
[04:03] <dfTh> ic
[04:03] <liquidindian> pinpoint, Amarok?
[04:03] <dfTh> how do you change it to full access?
[04:03] <cp7mm39> cp slaps rug back with a walleye
[04:03] <dfTh> like read, write, del, etc
[04:04] <HymnToLife> chmod 777 /path/to/your/file
[04:04] <LjL> dfTh: "chmod a+rwx filename" gives full access to anybody.
[04:04] <Rug> mikebot: paste the entire line
[04:04] <liquidindian> LjL, it doesn't seem to be in the media dir.
[04:04] <LjL> dfTh: for more fine-grained control, "man chmod"
[04:04] <johnnybezak> hey guys whats the release date for dapper?
[04:04] <mikebot> rug, there are two:
[04:04] <mikebot> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 413c:5106 Dell Computer Corp.
[04:04] <mikebot> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 413c:5105 Dell Computer Corp.
[04:04] <jonolsonroll2000> pinpoint, Are you talking about rhythmbox?
[04:04] <pinpoint> yeah
[04:04] <pinpoint> thanks
[04:04] <Rug> johnnybezak: Second Tuesday of necxt week
[04:04] <liquidindian> pinpoint, sorry :)
[04:04] <mikebot> Rug, for some reason there is also a Lexmark one
[04:04] <Lao> hey folks how are you doing tonight/day?
[04:04] <dfTh> a means attribute right?
[04:04] <LjL> dfTh: never mind, i just recalled that "man chmod" says zilch about permissions.
[04:04] <sells> hi,  anyone ever used Frevo?
[04:04] <fossa> i need help picking out a monitor
[04:04] <LjL> dfTh: no, "a" means "all".
[04:05] <Rug> yes that is because Dell printers are actually lexmarks
[04:05] <dfTh> oh
[04:05] <lampshade> sells, ha, yeah once a long time ago
[04:05] <HymnToLife> [04:04]  Rug johnnybezak: Second Tuesday of necxt week <= since when are there two Tusdays in a week ?
[04:05] <Rug> fossa: hint get a BIG one
[04:05] <fossa> 19" lcd
[04:05] <cp7mm39> hey if i close this window when i log back on to it again will it bring me back here?
[04:05] <johnnybezak> HymnToLife: haha
[04:05] <fossa> hyundai, samsung or viewsonic?
[04:05] <sells> lampshade: you did not like it?
[04:05] <johnnybezak> so what's the date?
[04:05] <Rug> Samsung
[04:05] <LjL> dfTh: for all i know, the syntax is "chmod x+attributes", where x can be u (the file owner), g (the group), o (others), a (all) - but i might be getting some of them wrong
[04:05] <Gokz> hey guys i really need some help. Could someone please help me configure an RT2500 card in ubuntu while in server
[04:05] <LjL> dfTh: as for the attributes, "r" is read, "w" is write and "x" is execute.
[04:05] <pinpoint> liquidindian, no problem
[04:05] <liquidindian> LjL, there are no sda devices in /dev
[04:06] <HymnToLife> johnnybezak> afaik it's April 20th
[04:06] <liquidindian> LjL, only scd0
[04:06] <dfTh> ic
[04:06] <LjL> liquidindian: i really have no clue :\
[04:06] <lampshade> sells, At the time I used it, it did __NOT__ have commercial skip features.  Which I didn't realize until I got it all up and working and such.  That was the killer feature I wanted
[04:06] <Lao> how do I write to a folder in file browser, it says I don't havepermission to?
[04:06] <fossa> samsung 920n - is that a good one?
[04:06] <QMario> Is anyone receiving spam right now?
[04:06] <Gokz> anyone know how to configure an RT2500 card while in server?
[04:06] <Rug> QMario: only from you
[04:06] <lampshade> I don't know if they have it now, I remember them having it in their roadmap to do, but I don't know that it happened
[04:06] <QMario> Rug, :'(.
[04:06] <sells> lampshade: do you know if it does now?
[04:06] <liquidindian> LjL, thanks anyway mate.
[04:06] <Rug> QMario: jk sorry
[04:06] <LjL> dfTh: oh, i forgot - the "+" is for *adding* those attributes, while a "-" would take them away. a "=" will set *exactly* those attributes and remove any other attribute
[04:06] <QMario> Some guy named "bigfiggz" is talking to me.
[04:07] <jonolsonroll2000> Gokz, Quick google search gave me this: http://www.flamingspork.com/blog/2005/01/14/rt2500-wireless-pci-card-on-ubuntu/
[04:07] <QMario> Do you know him, Rug?
[04:07] <Rug> no I was just kidding
[04:07] <Rug> apt-get beer
[04:07] <lampshade> sells, No, I don't know.  If you are building a standalone tv box you might want to also check out Knoppmyth which is a knoppix based live cd that will have all your tivoing needs already on the cd
[04:07] <HymnToLife> lmao
[04:07] <jonolsonroll2000> Gokz, or this
[04:07] <jonolsonroll2000> Gokz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[04:07] <Rug> apt-get remove wife
[04:07] <LjL> dfTh: so for example, if you want to set a file so that the group can read it, and nothing else, that would be "chmod g=r filename"
[04:08] <Rug> ack
[04:08] <Rug> error
[04:08] <sells> lampshade: cool
[04:08] <lampshade> hahah more like fsck wife
[04:08] <Rug> lampshade: no fsck girlfriend ssh wife
[04:08] <dfTh> thanks
[04:08] <HymnToLife> LjL> that seems quite complicated
[04:08] <lampshade> lolz
[04:08] <dfTh> i get it
[04:08] <HymnToLife> better use the good old octal values :p
[04:08] <KentJonathan> Hello i am make the install of wine-0.9.9 but he have this error configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[04:08] <Rug> chmode 755 what could go wrong?
[04:08] <fossa> i never got my dell latitude's wifi working with ubuntu
[04:09] <Rug> KentJonathan: why compile?  just use apt-get install
[04:09] <HymnToLife> Rug> that extra "e" could mess things up :D
[04:09] <lukey-> kill -9 that ass
[04:09] <Lao> fossa: I'm the man with the ndiswrapper, lets see what we can do
[04:09] <KentJonathan> what is the apt-get ?
[04:09] <KentJonathan> ups.
[04:09] <LjL> !tell KentJonathan about apt-get
[04:09] <fossa> Lao/ would love to but wife is on the comp working on baby registry
[04:09] <KentJonathan> NO i now what is apt-get
[04:09] <Rug> HymnToLife: It's been a long day, I can't type straight anymore
[04:10] <LjL> KentJonathan: oh, sorry
[04:10] <KentJonathan> what is the apt-get of wiine
[04:10] <LjL> KentJonathan: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:10] <KentJonathan> ok
[04:10] <Lao> ohhhh... sorry to hear that... anywho try doing a search on the Ubuntu wiki for ndiswrapper and follow the instructions
[04:10] <LjL> KentJonathan: that's not wine's package name
[04:10] <KentJonathan> ?
[04:10] <lampshade> fossa, if I may ask, what wireless card?  People with dells with the Intel chip have no problems works out of the box
[04:10] <LjL> KentJonathan: but it *is* the thing you need to install when you get a "no acceptable C compiler found"
[04:10] <Lao> then use WiFi Radar and for the most part it works like a charm
[04:10] <Rug> LjL: Do you know anything about clusters?
[04:10] <lampshade> but I keep seeing people in herer with the 1370 broadcom having huge problems
[04:10] <KentJonathan> sudo apt-get install build-essential what this the wine?
[04:11] <LjL> KentJonathan: but, perhaps you should simply install wine through apt-get, instead of compiling it
[04:11] <Lao> lol I have an HP with a broadcom...
[04:11] <HymnToLife> nope KentJonathan
[04:11] <KentJonathan> what thats?
[04:11] <HymnToLife> for wine, see this
[04:11] <HymnToLife> !wine
[04:11] <KentJonathan> !wine
[04:11] <dfTh> what if i want only admins to read/copy/delete a file called 'get.txt', so it would be chmod a+rxw get.txt
[04:11] <dfTh> ?
[04:11] <dfTh> thats right?
[04:11] <Lao> thats why I became good friend with ndis even though its kinda crappy
[04:11] <LjL> dfTh: no!!
[04:11] <KentJonathan> >_<
[04:11] <KentJonathan> !wine
[04:11] <dfTh> why
[04:11] <LjL> dfTh: "a" is for "all". that would set the file readable and writable to *anybody*
[04:11] <fossa> i tried the ubuntu wiki stuff before, no luck. ndiswrapper. i haven't heard of radar tho.
[04:11] <dfTh> oh
[04:12] <dfTh> so whats admin?
[04:12] <galaxyhitchhiker> I have a question
[04:12] <KentJonathan> what this sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[04:12] <HymnToLife> dfTh> chmod it to 770
[04:12] <HymnToLife> and set its GID to admin or whatever the hell your admin group is named
[04:12] <dfTh> but i wanna know who is who and what is that
[04:12] <erisco> how do I get .rar support for 5.10?
[04:12] <dfTh> what*
[04:12] <galaxyhitchhiker> can I force ubuntu to display in resolutions higher than 1024x768?
[04:13] <pavlovsdog> no but you can talk it into it
[04:13] <HymnToLife> 700 means the owner and the group have full acces
[04:13] <tgene`afk> how can i use my wireless card with unbuntu
[04:13] <tgene`afk> ??
[04:13] <HymnToLife> and everyone else has no access
[04:13] <pavlovsdog> 700 is owner only
[04:13] <HymnToLife> 770* sorry
[04:13] <tgene`afk> how can i use my wireless card with unbuntu
[04:14] <KentJonathan> Please install the 'flex' package.
[04:14] <KentJonathan>  where i can find the flex package?
[04:14] <KentJonathan> !flex
[04:14] <ubotu> KentJonathan: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:14] <dfTh> how do you know which one is group and which one is admin?
[04:14] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> tried sudo apt-get flex ?
[04:14] <farous> tgene`afk: try to be more specific and ask your question once
[04:14] <HymnToLife> install*
[04:14] <Lao> tgene: what kind of witeless card, and please don't spam the channel, someone will respond as soon as the can
[04:14] <HymnToLife> dammit, I should go to bed too
[04:14] <LjL> dfTh: "ls -l", the first name is the owner, the second is the group
[04:14] <KentJonathan> ok thanks
[04:14] <tgene`afk> Um its an atheros card
[04:14] <jonolsonroll2000> tgene, need more info then that ;)
[04:14] <KentJonathan> E: Invalid operation flex
[04:14] <KentJonathan>  in incorrect
[04:15] <LjL> dfTh: ----------  1 ljl ljl    0 2006-03-05 04:12 testfile           <-- first ljl is the owner, second is the group. this file has no permissions for anybody
[04:15] <jonolsonroll2000> tgene, and have you tried google?  It's wonderful :)
[04:15] <farous> tgene`afk: there is a good howto on the forums
[04:15] <farous> !atheros
[04:15] <ubotu> farous: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:15] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> the correct command is sudo apt-get install flex
[04:15] <dfTh> ic
[04:15] <Lao> tgene: get your windows driver and hit up google,
[04:15] <HymnToLife> of course
[04:15] <KentJonathan> ok thanks :)
[04:15] <pavlovsdog> ath0 maybe
[04:15] <pavlovsdog> as in not eth0
[04:15] <LjL> dfTh: if you wonder why there exists an "ljl" group, it's simply because when a user is created, a group corresponding to that user is also created by default
[04:15] <tgene`afk> hm ill try those k
[04:15] <farous> tgene`afk: just go to forums.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com is a good start to browse the documentation section there
[04:15] <fossa> samsung 920n or hyundai b90a
[04:16] <LjL> dfTh: so by default i belong to the group that includes only myself
[04:16] <dfTh> i get that
[04:16] <dfTh> got*
[04:17] <galaxyhitchhiker> !display
[04:17] <ubotu> [display]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto or ask !Resolution
[04:17] <galaxyhitchhiker> !resolution
[04:17] <ubotu> I heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:17] <LjL> dfTh: if i now type "chmod u+rw testfile", that file will be readable and writable for the "ljl" user (*not* for the group). you could of course accomplish the same thing with the weird octal notation :)
[04:17] <Rug> for answers to some of your questions please vist:   http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/
[04:17] <HymnToLife> the octal notation is not weird at all :/
[04:17] <LjL> dfTh: if instead i type "chmod g+rw testfile", that file will be r/w for the group. i could then "chgrp admin testfile", and the file would belong to the admin group
[04:17] <farous> Rug there is ubuntu documentation on the web
[04:17] <HymnToLife> it's just logic :p
[04:17] <LjL> HymnToLife: yes yes. want a cookie? :P
[04:18] <Rug> Yeah I know
[04:18] <HymnToLife> no, thanks
[04:18] <Rug> some of these questions seem to be more "beginner concepts"
[04:18] <pr0cty> nice link :)
[04:18] <KentJonathan> if i want to listen a radio of shoutcast ( winamp ) what program i need?
[04:19] <HymnToLife> LjL> are you sure of that chgrp thing though ?
[04:19] <dfTh> chmod a+r testfile - is accessible to all but read-only?
[04:19] <HymnToLife> I use chown :group for this
[04:19] <LjL> HymnToLife: uh, yEAH
[04:19] <wastrel> Rug:  ubuntu is a popular, newb friendly distro :] 
[04:19] <Rug> KentJonathan: many programs can receive a shoutcast stream
[04:19] <LjL> HymnToLife: (hit my caps lock by mistake)
[04:19] <Rug> wastrel: yes it is
[04:19] <Rug> I am not though.
[04:19] <Rug> =)
[04:19] <LjL> HymnToLife: oh... well, i didn't actually know or remember about that notation. but "chgrp" does also exist
[04:19] <KentJonathan> mmm one program please :(
[04:19] <Lao> is their any keyboard command to switch desktops?
[04:20] <Rug> KentJonathan: amarok
[04:20] <KentJonathan> is in install in my ubuntu of default?
[04:20] <Rug> Lao: Ctrl + Alt + cursor keys
[04:20] <HymnToLife> [04:18]  dfTh chmod a+r testfile - is accessible to all but read-only? <= yes, sorry
[04:20] <wastrel> Lao:  in gnome  ctrl-alt  with left or right arrow keys
[04:20] <johnnybezak> HymnToLife: when does Gnome 2.14 come out, do you know?
[04:20] <LjL> KentJonathan: no.
[04:20] <KentJonathan> where i can download?
[04:20] <HymnToLife> too busy arguing with LjL :p
[04:20] <LjL> KentJonathan: Rythmbox is. i suppose it might play that too?
[04:20] <dfTh> ic
[04:20] <Lao> THANKS that has been pissing me off
[04:20] <LjL> KentJonathan: "sudo aptitude install amarok"
[04:20] <pavlovsdog> left alt key
[04:20] <Rug> KentJonathan: sudo apt-get install amarok
[04:20] <HymnToLife> johnnybezak> nop :/
[04:20] <KentJonathan> thanks
[04:20] <pinpoint> rythmbox is nowhere on the list
[04:21] <pinpoint> is it restricted
[04:21] <HymnToLife> I'm more a KDE user actually
[04:21] <pavlovsdog> left ctrl i guess
[04:21] <dfTh> so there are only two things, a and g , which are group and all?
[04:21] <KentJonathan> this program is for listen the radio no? for example http://live.radiowey.com:8080
[04:21] <LjL> dfTh: no. don't forget "u", user (i.e. the owner)
[04:21] <HymnToLife> and u which is user
[04:21] <dfTh> what you mean user?
[04:21] <dfTh> oh
[04:21] <HymnToLife> the owner of the file
[04:21] <LjL> dfTh: and there is also "o", which is the rest of the world. that is different from "a" 'cause "a" also includes the owner and the group, while "o" means specifically the other people
[04:22] <Rug> KentJonathan: yes it can.  it does much more too
[04:22] <dfTh> like: chmod user+rxw testfile ?
[04:22] <LjL> dfTh: no. "chmod u+rxw testfile"
[04:22] <LjL> [04:17]  <LjL> dfTh: if i now type "chmod u+rw testfile", that file will be readable and writable for the "ljl" user (*not* for the group). you could of course accomplish the same thing with the weird octal notation :)
[04:22] <dfTh> oh
[04:22] <dfTh> yeah yeah yeah
[04:22] <LjL> dfTh: *who* is the owner can be decided by using the "chown" command
[04:23] <LjL> dfTh: of course, by default, the owner is the guy who created the file
[04:23] <HymnToLife> anand the group too
[04:23] <HymnToLife> and**
[04:23] <Rug> Can you add 'cluster' capabilities to an existing server?  (I have 2 unused boxes and 1 existing LAMP server that I want to create a 3-node cluster.)  will it kill the existing server?
[04:24] <s_spiff> guys
[04:24] <bigfoot1> an someone tell me the direct link to the embedded movie file in http://www.themcpassion.com/vsuper2.html, please?
[04:24] <bigfoot1> correction: *Can*
[04:24] <s_spiff> i've posted my [problem on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=793614#post793614 can someone help me?
[04:24] <s_spiff> please
[04:24] <HymnToLife> bigfoot1> just searchh the source...
[04:24] <LjL> dfTh: note that the owner will *always* have the last word on a file. even if you take every permission away from the owner, the owner can still set them back
[04:24] <liquidindian> LjL,  Got it working, thanks for your help.
[04:25] <liquidindian> LjL, I switched it off and back on again...
[04:25] <s_spiff>  is there a indian channel for ubuntu?
[04:25] <bigfoot1> HymnToLife: i did. it's hard to understand. take a look yourself.
[04:25] <LjL> dfTh: so if i typed "chmod u-rwx testfile", ljl would stop being able to read/write to the file... but he (i) could still issue a "chmod u+rwx testfile" at any time
[04:25] <bigfoot1> please
[04:25] <dfTh> i know that, i was confused on that a+rxw stuff
[04:25] <LjL> liquidindian: oh :)
[04:25] <DJ_tobias> what does this mean
[04:25] <DJ_tobias> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[04:25] <bigfoot1> HymnToLife: you like hymns?
[04:25] <dfTh> coz you're the admin?
[04:25] <dbinc> whoa
[04:25] <s_spiff> DJ_tobias: can u help me with my problem?
[04:25] <dbinc> where am i
[04:25] <dbinc> i'm scared
[04:26] <LjL> dfTh: no, 'cause i am the file owner.
[04:26] <DJ_tobias> s_spiff, which?
[04:26] <HymnToLife> bigfoot1> ?
[04:26] <s_spiff> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=793614#post793614
[04:26] <s_spiff> posted the problem there
[04:26] <dbinc> please don't gang rape me
[04:26] <dfTh> ic
[04:26] <s_spiff>  i havent got a decent reply on the forums!
[04:26] <DJ_tobias> s_spiff, give me one sec to read it
[04:26] <HymnToLife> I think - not sure though - than root also has every right
[04:26] <s_spiff> yup thnx
[04:26] <HymnToLife> that*
[04:26] <bigfoot1> HymnToLife: your handle is "HymnToLife", that's why i ask if you like hymns
[04:27] <dfTh> aight, time to test those cmds, brb
[04:27] <galaxyhitchhiker> OK< much more specific question now
[04:27] <bigfoot1> Can someone tell me the direct link to the embedded movie file in http://www.themcpassion.com/vsuper2.html, please? I looked at the source, but can't understand it.
[04:27] <|PuGz|> Hi, does anyone know if i can use a 32bit version of ubuntu on a 64bit machine?
[04:27] <LjL> HymnToLife: indeed, root does. root is even more powerful than the owner, 'cause he doesn't even need to "chmod" to anything -- he can even write to a file with 000 (happy?) permissions
[04:27] <Rug> bigfoot1: that is the second time you have asked that question in less then 2 mintues.
[04:27] <farous> |PuGz|: sure you can
[04:27] <galaxyhitchhiker> do I need to install drivers for my raedon 9600 card?
[04:27] <Rug> bigfoot1: NO
[04:27] <|PuGz|> ok thank you :)
[04:28] <johnmournahan> what is the default root password
[04:28] <farous> galaxyhitchhiker: which drivers you need
[04:28] <Malachi> Anyone have problem with OO.org's Base?
[04:28] <LjL> !tell johnmournahan about root
[04:28] <galaxyhitchhiker> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[04:28] <DJ_tobias> s_spiff, are you using a cd to install?
[04:28] <Rug> johnmournahan: there is no 'root' password.  only your sudo password
[04:28] <farous> galaxyhitchhiker: you need the fglrx drivers from ati. they will work just fine
[04:29] <Rug> Malachi: the menu bar is blank untill I mouse over it.   Like that?
[04:29] <Malachi> Rug: Yeah, or buggy like it crashes alot.
[04:29] <galaxyhitchhiker> even if I want to raise the resolution past 1024x
[04:29] <galaxyhitchhiker> ?
[04:29] <Rug> Malachi: yupp, mine is fubar too
[04:29] <johnmournahan> so enter nothing on root login? sorry about the stupid question but ive used SUSE and Fedora before and you need to spesifie it
[04:29] <HymnToLife> !root
[04:29] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:29] <farous> galaxyhitchhiker: if your screen support it yes
[04:29] <galaxyhitchhiker> k
[04:30] <johnmournahan> thank you
[04:30] <farous> galaxyhitchhiker: you can have that too with the ati drivers already installed on your mch
[04:31] <galaxyhitchhiker> farous: I can only see 1024 right now
[04:31] <farous> galaxyhitchhiker: you need to configure it
[04:31] <farous> !resolution
[04:31] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:31] <farous> ^   &
[04:31] <galaxyhitchhiker> i already followed that
[04:31] <farous> galaxyhitchhiker: follow ubotu link
[04:31] <galaxyhitchhiker> already did
[04:31] <carlk> I am trying to figure out if it tries to send the box's hostname - what script actualy does the dhcp?
[04:31] <farous> did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:32] <galaxyhitchhiker> hmm
[04:32] <johnmournahan> has anyone got a usb tv tuner card to work on ubuntu
[04:32] <redstripe> hi im trying to install something with, ./configure && make && make install, but i get bash: ./configure: No such file or directory... also with sudo, command not found... any idea whats missing?
[04:32] <LjL> redstripe: uh... configure perhaps? =)
[04:33] <LjL> redstripe: is *there* a "configure" file in the directory you're in?
[04:33] <redstripe> apt-get install configure?
[04:33] <redstripe> i see configure.ac
[04:33] <HymnToLife> redstripe> sis you browse to the directory where you exctracted the tarball of whichever source you are trying to build ?
[04:33] <johnmournahan> i have a adaptec videoh media center usb and cant find a driver or any support for linux at all
[04:33] <LjL> redstripe: no, configure should be shipped with the tarball that you're compiling
[04:33] <farous> redstripe: install build-essental
[04:33] <carlk> redstripe: not all things need configure - what does the README say?
[04:33] <LjL> farous: no. he doesn't have any configure
[04:33] <HymnToLife> did*
[04:33] <redstripe> the site i got the tar from says use that command
[04:33] <LjL> carlk: if there is configure.ac, then it probably needs configure, but needs to run autoconf to create it
[04:33] <redstripe> INSTALL, step 1, configure
[04:34] <redstripe> HymnToLife, yes im in the directory
[04:34] <LjL> redstripe: try typing "sudo apt-get install autoconf", and then "autoconf". a "configure" should be created
[04:34] <HymnToLife> then ither you are _not_ in it
[04:34] <redstripe> ok thanks!
[04:34] <farous> yah LjL i think you are right
[04:34] <HymnToLife> or you should tell the owner that his source tarball is messed up
[04:34] <LjL> HymnToLife: probably
[04:35] <LjL> HymnToLife: though it would not be the first nor the last of its kind ;)
[04:35] <HymnToLife> lol
[04:35] <olahi> hello
[04:37] <LjL> redstripe: by the way, i gave you generic instructions that should probably work -- but the others' advice to read any shipped README or INSTALL file is perfectly valid ;)
[04:37] <redstripe> LjL, alright
[04:37] <redstripe> i just got an error, but ill double check the INSTALL
[04:37] <redstripe> thanks
[04:37] <LjL> redstripe: if the error is related to a missing C compiler, then "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[04:38] <johnmournahan> what is a good chanel for hardware suport for ubuntu
[04:38] <LjL> johnmournahan: this one.
[04:38] <HymnToLife> lol
[04:38] <HymnToLife> !hardware
[04:38] <ubotu> methinks hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:39] <Malachi> Rug: Do you know of a good alternative?
[04:39] <johnmournahan> i have a adaptec avc 2310 usb tv tuner and cant find anything
[04:39] <Rug> patience
[04:39] <olahi> how do i install wifi support in kde? i have a pcmcia wifi here i need to use it.what package do i need to install?
[04:40] <Rug> Malachi: in another month Dapper will be released.  I am sure some bugs will be fixxed
[04:40] <olahi> im installing ubuntu as server then done aptget install kde*
[04:40] <Rug> olahi: why are you install a DE on a server?
[04:40] <HymnToLife> olahi> you need to do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <s|k> http://pastebin.com/584467  <--- is there anything wrong with my xconfig ?
[04:40] <HymnToLife> yeah, Rug's question is relevant too
[04:40] <s|k> because I get nothing but errors with glxinfo
[04:41] <LjL> s|k: it's quite messed up
[04:41] <s|k> what's wrong with it?
[04:41] <LjL> s|k: any "Section" should end with an "EndSection"
[04:41] <Madpilot> greetings, Ubuntubians
[04:41] <LjL> s|k: you have several "Section"s that open without closing
[04:41] <lnx_> how do you turn off the low battery notifications?
[04:41] <s_spiff> DJ_tobias: yeah i'm using  CD to install
[04:41] <s|k> oh
[04:41] <s_spiff>  breezy badger
[04:41] <s|k> maybe I didn't copy it right
[04:41] <s|k> how do I select and copy the entire text?
[04:41] <Rug> s|k: you are missing a LOT of stuff
[04:41] <dfTh> where you files go when someone sent you a file?
[04:41] <dfTh> im using xchat
[04:42] <LjL> s|k: probably ctrl+a, if you're using gedit or similar
[04:42] <drakonan> Hey, i think i know the answer to this, but will ask anyway: i have a raid5 3 disk set, windows software raid, would it work with linux software raid or do ineed a temp drive to copy to/from?
[04:42] <s|k> I'm using vim
[04:42] <lnx_> how do you turn off the low battery notifications?
[04:42] <s|k> let me try gedit
[04:42] <HymnToLife> dfTh> /home/user/.xchat2/downloads
[04:42] <HymnToLife> if I remember well
[04:42] <dfTh> ic
[04:42] <LjL> s|k: no idea with vim
[04:42] <Rug> drakonan: Linux won't be able to read that raid set
[04:42] <s|k> http://pastebin.com/584473  <--- LjL
[04:42] <s_spiff>  DJ_tobias can u put the soln. to prob on the forums itself.. cuz me going out..to get my bike serviced :P
[04:42] <samwh> Hey, uh, anyone know of a GUI for encoding videos with FFMPEG or Mencoder?
[04:43] <Rug> samwh: have you tried tovid?
[04:43] <lnx_> anyone know how to turn off the low battery notifications?
[04:43] <HymnToLife> samwh> I use avidmux for video encoding
[04:43] <s_spiff> bbye.. DJ_tobias ...thnx anyways.. if u can resolve the prob..can u please put it on the forums... g2g
[04:43] <samwh> Are they in the repos?
[04:43] <s_spiff>  thanks ppl cya
[04:43] <redstripe> LjL, if you dont mind, ive read thru the INSTALL, but this error is still persisting: http://pastebin.com/584468
[04:43] <s|k> LjL, glx isn't loading
[04:43] <Rug> samwh: yes
[04:44] <johnmournahan> dose anyone know if there is a mythtv channel
[04:44] <Rug> oh wait maybe not...
[04:44] <HymnToLife> avidemux isn't
[04:44] <samwh> lol
[04:44] <bluemax_> /whois bluemax_
[04:44] <HymnToLife> I have the debs, can't remeber from where I downloaded them though :/
[04:44] <olahi> Rug, i installed KDE cuz i need xwindow sometimes when surfing.this is just a test ubuntu server
[04:44] <bluemax_> duh, oops
[04:44] <samwh> meh, ill google it
[04:44] <Rug> try searching for it.   Very easy to install
[04:44] <olahi> im using dual boot in my laptop winxp and ubuntu server with xwindow using kde
[04:44] <HymnToLife> olahi> why just install a full Ubuntu with gnome ?
[04:44] <LjL> s|k: try adding http://pastebin.com/584483
[04:45] <HymnToLife> no*
[04:45] <mikebot> so, i'm looking for help with installing my dell printer--i.e. getting its drivers
[04:45] <olahi> i like more kde and maybe im first interested in kde hehehe
[04:45] <Rug> yes mike
[04:45] <HymnToLife> download Kubuntu then...
[04:45] <drakonan> all right didn't think so... hey, i've got a situation with my video driver and suspend or something on this computer i've installed linux on, when the computer has been left alone for a while when i go to log back in to it the screen turns on but the video is corrupt, is there something i can do? it's no big deal to *me*, but i'm wanting to give this to my grand father and he'll struggle with the key combination to reset X
[04:45] <olahi> HymnToLife,  is it not safe to use kde?
[04:45] <s|k> at the end LjL ?
[04:45] <LjL> redstripe: that configure is screwed up.
[04:45] <ithiel> olahi, KDE makes you sterile, and you get cancer, don't use it.
[04:45] <HymnToLife> well anyway, to install KDE it's apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:45] <LjL> s|k: i've got it at the end yeah
[04:45] <samwh> try xubuntu
[04:45] <ithiel> hello LjL
[04:45] <redstripe> LjL, i figured, ok thanks
[04:45] <ithiel> XFce is nice for low power machinery.
[04:46] <Rug> icewm too
[04:46] <LjL> ithiel: hi
[04:46] <johnmournahan> ithiel > what do you have agenst KDE?
[04:46] <ithiel> johnmournahan, bloat.
[04:46] <olahi> sterile? heehehe
[04:46] <ithiel> hardcore bloat.
[04:46] <drakonan> ithiel, define low power, as in 128mb ram?
[04:46] <olahi> why? is it unsecure?
[04:46] <drakonan> resource usage johnmournahan
[04:46] <HymnToLife> KDE rocks :/
[04:46] <s|k> LjL, why is gedit opening it up as read only?
[04:46] <ithiel> drakonan, depends on the machine, and how much lag you can tolerate. 128mb ram though? it'd run nice with xfce
[04:46] <lnx_> anyone know how to turn off low battery notifications?
[04:46] <LjL> s|k: cause you didn't use sudo i guess
[04:47] <globe> is there a way to tell ubuntu to rescan the pcmcia port without rebooting?
[04:47] <HymnToLife> remind me WHO said "I just tell people to use KDE" ?
[04:47] <s|k> oh
[04:47] <olahi> tell me if it have lots of bugs then ill not use it
[04:47] <ithiel> olahi, nah, I was just being satirical, there are frequent desktop environment holy wars in here. Frankly, I dislike gnome, xfce, and KDE all for different reasons
[04:47] <ithiel> it depends on what you value most, power, speed, usability, simplicity, features, e.t.c.
[04:47] <Madpilot> HymnToLife, just because he built the kernel we run on doesn't mean we should listen to him :P
[04:47] <ithiel> to each his own
[04:47] <Rug> np: Unknown -  (0:08 / 0:00)
[04:47] <johnmournahan> can you run K.... programs on gnome
[04:47] <ithiel> SimpleKDE looks promising to me
[04:47] <HymnToLife> I know :pI was just a bit sarcastic
[04:47] <drakonan> yep johnmournahan
[04:47] <ithiel> johnmournahan, yes
[04:47] <odat> anyone know how to install ubuntu on a computer with two ATA hard drives
[04:47] <LjL> Madpilot: he's crazy.
[04:47] <robertj> man, I'm 11:45 into Johnny Mneumonic and it's a bit tramatic already
[04:47] <Madpilot> Rug, turn the np script off, thanks
[04:47] <johnmournahan> all
[04:47] <lnx_> johnmournahan, yes
[04:47] <HymnToLife> I didn't wait for him tu use KDE :p
[04:47] <ithiel> it'll have to load the libraries, but yes
[04:48] <mikebot> aynone know about printer drivers?
[04:48] <robertj> why did _he_ have to be in that movie...
[04:48] <LjL> Madpilot: i mean it most well intentionedly, but he is.
[04:48] <drakonan> odat,  there shouldn't be a difference from having a computer with one hd
[04:48] <Rug> Sorry about that
[04:48] <ithiel> maddler, hola.
[04:48] <Madpilot> LjL, most of the "names" in the Linux world are crazy - Stallman, anyone? :P
[04:48] <olahi> what is the binary file of gaim? i need to run it.done apt-get install gaim
[04:48] <johnmournahan> wow i wasnt sure what why most small programs said for KDE.
[04:48] <odat> drakonan, well each time i install the install goes fine but when it reboots i get a grub error 2
[04:48] <LjL> Madpilot: yeah guess so
[04:48] <HymnToLife> Stallman is the worst of all lol
[04:48] <Madpilot> olahi, try 'gaim' at a prompt
[04:49] <drakonan> Does anyone have a solution to the "video corruption on wake  up" problem i'm experiencing?  How can I test that that is my problem i.e. manually go in ot a  lower power state?
[04:49] <dhanny> Thanks all! :) My apt-proxy is working now.. and the workstations updating the dapper from it.. :) Thank you so much.. :)
[04:49] <johnmournahan> but i guess it was to support there perfered
[04:49] <lnx_> anyone know how to turn off the low battery notificaitons?
[04:49] <drakonan> what are you doing exactly? is your idea that you want to dual boot windows, windows on one hd and linux on the other?
[04:49] <olahi> it says command not found
[04:50] <s|k> is there anything wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/584488
[04:50] <s|k> ?
[04:50] <olahi> $ gaim
[04:50] <olahi> bash: gaim: command not found
[04:50] <LjL> drakonan: "echo mem >/sys/power/state" should suspend, and "echo disk >/sys/power/state" should hibernate, iirc
[04:50] <_JECKEL_> bah
[04:50] <johnmournahan> anyone use mythtv
[04:50] <_JECKEL_> I can't get mplayer or xine or vlc to play wmv!
[04:50] <olahi> :(
[04:50] <HymnToLife> use another format...
[04:50] <_JECKEL_> and I installed all the wmv related codecs I could find! GRAWR!
[04:50] <s|k> I'm going to just format the drive
[04:50] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, totem-xine plays wmv for me - got the w32codecs?
[04:50] <s|k> and start over
[04:50] <samwh> wow, not VLC? sure it aint DRM?
[04:51] <s|k> nothing is working for me
[04:51] <s|k> I don't have sound
[04:51] <s|k> I don't have 3D
[04:51] <_JECKEL_> Madpilot..from the website when you type !wmv in here?
[04:51] <s|k> I can't print right
[04:51] <johnmournahan> anyone herd of mythtv?
[04:51] <_JECKEL_> yeah I got those
[04:51] <LjL> s|k: don't think formatting and reinstalling will solve any of these.
[04:51] <Madpilot> _JECKEL_, yeah, the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[04:51] <Rug> johnmournahan: yes of course
[04:51] <_JECKEL_> yeah
[04:51] <s|k> LjL, :|
[04:51] <samwh> s|k is experiancing what we all did back in the 90's with linux:
[04:51] <johnmournahan> dose anyone use it
[04:51] <samwh> TERROR
[04:51] <s|k> what's that
[04:52] <s|k> heh
[04:52] <johnmournahan> that is here
[04:52] <odat> drakonan, i am simply trying to install ubuntu  i even went as far as to take one of the drive out and install but i still get a grub error 2   after reboot
[04:52] <HymnToLife> but FUNNY terror :p
[04:52] <s|k> I thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy
[04:52] <globe> how do I remedie the problem: X server cannot be started: no screens found
[04:52] <Rug> johnmournahan: did you try knoppixmyth ?
[04:52] <LjL> s|k: and windows is supposed to be secure. yeah.
[04:52] <samwh> hey, it cant be easy if you hardware aint on the HCL
[04:52] <LjL> and i'm supposed to be asleep
[04:52] <robertj> bwahaha, 90's was "What floppy disk series do I need for my motherboard?"
[04:52] <flint> globe did you start ssh -X to other box...
[04:52] <s|k> LjL,  when ever I try to restart X it just fails
[04:52] <_JECKEL_> lemme install totem-xine
[04:52] <s|k> I have to reboot
[04:52] <globe> flint: ?
[04:53] <samwh> why the fuck does everyone have an SSH server. Now THAT aint secure
[04:53] <olahi> is there winamp in ubuntu?
[04:53] <samwh> xmms
[04:53] <Rug> olahi: no xmms
[04:53] <olahi> ok
[04:53] <johnmournahan> rug > not yet I wanted to try and install but still have a usefull system untill i get my tv card to work
[04:53] <samwh> sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:53] <s|k> gjlxinfo gives me a whole bunch of lines like this: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:53] <LjL> olahi: or beep-media-player. or a ton of other players which, however, don't look much like winamp
[04:53] <samwh> What card do you have?
[04:53] <drakonan> how old is this computer? it wouldn't be using any kind of drive loader software would it? maybe you could try manually removing all partitions/data before ubuntu unstall
[04:53] <Madpilot> samwh, um, SSH isn't secure?
[04:54] <dh0> hello
[04:54] <johnmournahan> adaptec usb videoH media center (avc 2310)
[04:54] <samwh> Well, ssh IS secure, but most people make it UNsecure
[04:54] <samwh> with shitty passwords
[04:54] <LjL> s|k: well, i can give you my xorg.conf. it's a bit different from yours, though not by much
[04:54] <HymnToLife> if SSH is not secue then what about NFS ? :/
[04:54] <Madpilot> samwh, that's user error, not a software problem :|
[04:54] <flint> ssh is about link security not about password security.  anybody know anything about sound here?
[04:54] <s|k> :/
[04:55] <olahi> ill do apt-get install xmms beep-mediaplayer    ..im install kubuntu-desktop this might take a moment
[04:55] <LjL> s|k: http://pastebin.com/584492
[04:55] <samwh> I know, i am just saying, WHY DO SO MANY USERS SAY: just ssh in...
[04:55] <s|k> thanks LjL
[04:55] <samwh> WHY THE FUCK SHOULD A REGULAR USER HAVE SSH even INSTALLED
[04:55] <HymnToLife> olahi> did you enable the KDE 3.5.1 repo ?
[04:55] <odat> drakonan, its a pretty nice machine i have no idea if it uses drive loader software
[04:55] <Madpilot> samwh, pass this URL around: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords - and mind the language, thanks
[04:55] <LjL> samwh: please don't shout, and don't use this kind of terms
[04:55] <globe> samwh: watch the language in here
[04:55] <HymnToLife> samwh> to look more geeky :p
[04:55] <drakonan> the file not found error suggests that the install didn't complete right odat, do you have data on the other HD? could you try installing on it and remove the other?
[04:55] <olahi> HymnToLife,  that i dont have any idea. cuz i did apt-get install kdebase and that xorg*
[04:56] <samwh> sorry, afk, gotta go calm down
[04:56] <drakonan> if it's relatively new it won't
[04:56] <cafuego> samwh: Because a lot of regular users use ssh.
[04:56] <mikebot> i'm following a guide that says: $ alien -t z600cups-1.0-1.i386.rpm # convert unusable rpm packages to tgz.
[04:56] <drakonan> yeah, what is a "regular user"?
[04:56] <wastrel> samwh:  it's not installed by default fyi
[04:56] <mikebot> but my terminal says alien is not a valid command
[04:56] <_JECKEL_> meh
[04:56] <Rug> samwh: what is your damage?
[04:56] <HymnToLife> olahi> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[04:56] <odat> drakonan, i did try that
[04:56] <_JECKEL_> totem-xine isn't working either
[04:56] <Madpilot> mikebot, "sudo apt-get install alien" first
[04:56] <mikebot> maddler, ah, thanks
[04:56] <mikebot> Madpilot, ***
[04:56] <olahi> k visiting the site
[04:57] <mikebot> Madpilot, what is alien?
[04:57] <_epp> hey... my cdrom on my mac wont mount.
[04:57] <mikebot> Madpilot, is it really necessaRY FOR ME TO INSTALL?
[04:57] <johnmournahan> just curious where is everyone from? Im Ontario Canada
[04:57] <mikebot> Madpilot, caps lock, sorry
[04:57] <HymnToLife> if you want to use it
[04:57] <Madpilot> mikebot, it converts rpms to .deb - what are you trying to install?
[04:57] <HymnToLife> yeah, it's better to have it installed
[04:57] <drakonan> does grub offer you the opportunity to type what you want after presenting your error?  you could try manually booting by typing in the stuff yourself
[04:57] <flint> _epp, try dmesg | grep hd.  The cd rom should be there.
[04:57] <DJ_tobias> does anybody play neverwinter nights diamond ?
[04:57] <mikebot> Madpilot, some lexmark driver for my dell
[04:58] <Madpilot> mikebot, ack - go buy an HP instead! :P
[04:58] <flint> my sound quit anybody got any ideas?  does breezy default to alsa?
[04:58] <mikebot> Madpilot, haha, this is more free
[04:58] <HymnToLife> Lexmark...
[04:58] <johnmournahan> can you get yast to work on ubuntu
[04:58] <HymnToLife> Do people actually BUY it ?
[04:58] <mikebot> Madpilot, *freer is guess i should have said
[04:58] <TrendyDark> what command would i use to move a file from one folder to another via the CLI?
[04:59] <drakonan> i did HymnToLife, but it's not something i'm proud of
[04:59] <HymnToLife> TrendyDark> mv
[04:59] <fossa> what's a cli?
[04:59] <wastrel> !tell trendydark about cli
[04:59] <drakonan> command line interface fossa
[04:59] <HymnToLife> Command Line Interface...
[04:59] <Rug> or short for clit
[04:59] <_epp> flint, join epppaste
[04:59] <wastrel> !tell fossa about cli
[04:59] <olahi> im just curious is there a user here working for ubuntu?
[04:59] <TrendyDark> thanks a lot hymntolife
[04:59] <fossa> mv
[04:59] <flint> TrendyDark, select file, right click tap cut, move to new folder see reverse video right click hit paste into folder...
[05:00] <Rug> the clit is real, it's the female orgasm that is fake
[05:00] <HymnToLife> flint> wow
[05:00] <DJ_tobias> could anybody help me with this problem:
[05:00] <flint> _epp, gotcha
[05:00] <DJ_tobias> @slave:/secondary/games/nwn$ ./nwn
[05:00] <DJ_tobias> Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
[05:00] <cafuego> rug: As opposed to the troll, which exists.
[05:00] <HymnToLife> you can do that from the command line ?
[05:00] <drakonan> haha caf
[05:00] <Madpilot> olahi, "working for" - probably not, lots of us volunteer for the Ubuntu project...
[05:00] <olahi> is ubuntu from an asian coders?
[05:00] <drakonan> are there people actually hired by ubuntu?
[05:00] <Rug> cafuego: sorry just quoting lines from "Jay and Silent Bob strike back"
[05:00] <olahi> Madpilot,  cool
[05:00] <cafuego> olahi: No, constrbutors to ubuntu live all over the world.
[05:01] <engla> olahi: ubuntu is from GNU/Linux, developed by everyone elsewhere
[05:01] <Madpilot> drakonan, yes, Canonical employs about 40-50 people
[05:01] <olahi> ic but the supported or the one who finace ubuntu is that billionaire guy right?
[05:01] <samwh> how does Canonical make *cash* anyways?
[05:01] <cafuego> olahi: shuttleworth, yes.
[05:01] <cafuego> samwh: paid support
[05:02] <Madpilot> samwh, currently they probably don't - but see what cafuego said for how they intend to
[05:02] <lnx_> anyone know how to turn off low battery notifications?
[05:02] <samwh> and thats enough to pay for all these free cds?
[05:02] <robertj> Madpilot, how many of those 40-50 are tech guys?
[05:02] <Healot> yeah commercial support, training etc?
[05:02] <cafuego> samwh: No, those get paid for by SHuttleworths billions :-)
[05:02] <Madpilot> robertj, not sure, but most of them I think
[05:02] <olahi> cool the ubuntu company gave me 300cds of that version before 5.10
[05:03] <HymnToLife> which percentage of those 100 CDs actually orked ?
[05:03] <olahi> he's giving free cds..wow..he must have a problem on how to throw his money
[05:03] <olahi> hehehe
[05:03] <drakonan> that's awesome
[05:03] <robertj> olahi, same problem as you, just more of it
[05:03] <olahi> while im having a problem earning a money
[05:03] <drakonan> free cd's
[05:03] <cafuego> olahi: Indeed. Spending it on a space trip wasn't enough.
[05:03] <Rug> HymnToLife: why are there some that don't work?
[05:03] <lnx_> anyone out there know how to turn off the low battery notifications?
[05:04] <HymnToLife> Rug> we get lots of ppl complaining their shipped CDs don't work
[05:04] <cafuego> lnx_: right click the battery status applet, check the prefs.
[05:04] <Rug> really?   bummer.  I was going to order a bunch of Dapper
[05:04] <globe> can somebody help me get my gui started? gdm is broken on new install on laptop
[05:04] <cafuego> HymnToLife: Yes, amazing how many people whine about free stuff.
[05:04] <Madpilot> Rug, most of them work - we only see the problems here, though :P
[05:04] <HymnToLife> well, I ordered 15 CDs
[05:04] <olahi> oh by the way
[05:04] <HymnToLife> and only 2 of them didn't work
[05:04] <olahi> is wine supported in ubuntu?
[05:04] <Madpilot> olahi, sure
[05:05] <olahi> cool
[05:05] <Rug> I work help-desk at an ISP, I wanaa hand them out to everybody
[05:05] <HymnToLife> !tell olahi about wine
[05:05] <Lao> when does Dapper go stable?
[05:05] <cafuego> April 20.
[05:05] <HymnToLife> Lao> release date is April 20th if I remeber well
[05:05] <Lao> cool shiz
[05:05] <asdfmn> Hey guys, I got a question: I'm looking to run OSS/ARTS/etc applications under ALSA.. how can I do this?
[05:06] <lnx_> cafuego, thx
[05:06] <cK-gLocK> can anyone helpme enable 3d accelerationn my vidcard? i ended up removing my 7667 nvidia drivers and tried reinstalling them now there not working properly plus it was using nvidia b4 i removed them to attmept to update drivers now that i reinstalled it again with synaptic it doesnt wanna install under "nvidia" nomore its instead "nv" and i cant run any games nvidia-settings menu has no options that wer ethere b4 temp/gfx settings
[05:06] <cK-gLocK> ... NEED HELP.
[05:06] <asdfmn> nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:06] <Lao> I'm trying to get a lug together at my local college so I'll try to get my ass in gear and maybe make a first meeting on the day after so I can dl it and PLAY WITH IT
[05:07] <samwh> woo
[05:07] <Rug> Lao: very nice.  Good luck
[05:07] <samwh> got XGL working
[05:07] <Rug> purdy?
[05:07] <Lao> any one know how to disable touch click on a laptop touchpad
[05:07] <pramz> what video card ?
[05:07] <drakonan> the space flight was $20 million?
[05:07] <samwh> yes yes, purdy indeed
[05:07] <Rug> Lao: it;s in the bios
[05:07] <HymnToLife> Lao> for games maybe you could spend a few bucks on cedega
[05:07] <Lao> oh shit
[05:07] <Lao> I'm not confortable playing in bios yet
[05:08] <Rug> yet you are hacking away at linux....
[05:08] <Lao> cedega?
[05:08] <wastrel> Lao:  put this line in the "synaptics" section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf:       Option          "MaxTapTime"            "0"
[05:08] <Rug> go for it, nothing a hammer won't fix
[05:08] <olahi> how can i browse to my /mount/hda1 im using a normal user and not as root ..i need to use this ubuntu browser
[05:08] <wastrel> Lao:  for a synaptics touchpad...
[05:08] <asdfmn> Is there any way I can use ALSA in programs that insist on using OSS/ARTS/etc
[05:08] <olahi> this must be konqueror
[05:08] <olahi> it says dont have an access
[05:08] <KentJonathan> Excume what is the forms for chat in IRC?
[05:08] <KentJonathan> No X-chat and mIRC
[05:08] <crimsun> asdfmn: arts can use alsa
[05:08] <Lao> i don't know what kinda touch pad I have
[05:08] <asdfmn> Well..
[05:09] <mattwestm> I just setup sendmail, where does the mail go to when someone sends me one?
[05:09] <HymnToLife> !tell olahi about ntfs
[05:09] <mikebot> when i double click a file on my desktop (bookmarks.html) it says "Couldn't display .../bookmarks.html"
[05:09] <mikebot> why is that?
[05:09] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, "the forms"? You're in IRC right now, just ask your questions...
[05:09] <olahi> it's already mounted when i typed mount in terminal it was mounted at /media/hda1
[05:09] <KentJonathan> Yes but i don like the progra of X-chat
[05:09] <KentJonathan> i want another program
[05:09] <asdfmn> My ALSA lets me use have multiple sounds, but often applications use other crap and I can't listen to ALSA
[05:09] <wastrel> Lao:  grep -i synaptics /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:09] <asdfmn> Like if I start up zsnes I get a sound init failure unless I end amaroK
[05:10] <robertj> Madpilot, maybe he is a philosopher?
[05:10] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, there are lots of IRC apps in the Ubuntu repos - start Synaptic and search for IRC
[05:10] <KentJonathan> Like a mIRC
[05:10] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> you can run mIRC through wine
[05:10] <Lao> wastrel: can you im me on AIM my sn is Zentronics
[05:11] <wastrel> Lao:  sry i'm not on aim
[05:11] <KentJonathan> how is the duration of the install the wine because i am install the program
[05:11] <mxpxpod> KentJonathan: you can also do irc with gaim
[05:11] <Lao> np btw in that xorg file I found the synaptics lines Im gonna give it a shot
[05:11] <Lao> do I need to reboot?
[05:12] <mxpxpod> Lao: no, just logout and restart gdm
[05:12] <pr0cty> i downloaded the vmx/vmdk Ubuntu off of the ubuntu test site...anyone have info about using it
[05:12] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> the installation of WINE ?
[05:12] <pr0cty> im not familiar with using already made ..machines
[05:12] <KentJonathan> yes
[05:12] <Lao> ok
[05:12] <KentJonathan> i am install the program
[05:12] <HymnToLife> it depends on your connection speed
[05:12] <wastrel> Lao:  logging out & back in should work, once you make the change to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  (backup the xorg.conf first!)
[05:12] <Lao> whats the command to edit in vi editor
[05:12] <mikebot> when i double click a file on my desktop (bookmarks.html) it says "Couldn't display .../bookmarks.html"
[05:12] <mikebot> why is that?
[05:12] <HymnToLife> the package is quite big
[05:12] <Gokz> hi guys im giong to try one last time..can anyone guide me to installing an RT2500 card, while ubuntu is installed as a server. PLEASE
[05:13] <Madpilot> Lao, use nano, it's much saner than vi
[05:13] <wastrel> Lao:  if you're not familiar with vi, nano would be easier
[05:13] <HymnToLife> vi rocks
[05:13] <asdfmn> How can I get/force an application to use ALSA?
[05:13] <Lao> ok
[05:13] <HymnToLife> screw emacs :p <= worst troll ever
[05:13] <mxpxpod> now, lets not get into an editor war ;)
[05:14] <Gokz> PLEASE someone help me on how to install an RT2500 card in ubuntu installed a server. I am definatly new at this..
[05:14] <Madpilot> Editor holy wars can take place in #ubuntu-offtopic - and I'll keep recommending gedit or nano to everyone here :P
[05:14] <Gokz> by the way i have searched the WIKI and i really cant get it..
[05:14] <cinder> !e17
[05:14] <HymnToLife> Gokz> if no one answers, that's maybe because no one knows...
[05:14] <absent> could someone please help me with php?
[05:14] <Madpilot> Gokz, have you looked at www.ubuntuforums.org as well?
[05:14] <absent> or more specifically apache
[05:15] <HymnToLife> Madpilot> am I allowed to recommend kwrite instead of gedit ? :D
[05:15] <absent> i am having trouble with it
[05:15] <HymnToLife> !tell absent about anyone
[05:15] <Gokz> Madpilot - > i think its instructions are based on the fact that ubuntu is installed normally
[05:15] <absent> in fedora you type service httpd start but it wont work in ubuntu
[05:16] <mikebot> on my desktop i have a folder named 'downloads' but it says 'download' on one line and 's' on a second line...can i make it so it doesn't do this?
[05:16] <absent> what package do i need?
[05:16] <Madpilot> HymnToLife, sure, but that might start a DE war instead of an editor war :P
[05:16] <HymnToLife> yeah
[05:16] <olahi> how do i reload my /etc/fstab?
[05:16] <Madpilot> !tell absent about lamp
[05:16] <Healot> it's /etc/init.d/httpd?
[05:16] <HymnToLife> and we already got through the DEs
[05:16] <olahi> i have just edited my /etc/fstab to auto mount my ntfs /dev/hda1
[05:16] <olahi> ?
[05:16] <Healot> you don't reload the file... olahi, you remount
[05:16] <Healot> mount -a
[05:16] <HymnToLife> olahi> sudo mout -a
[05:16] <mikebot> we should have sex sometime
[05:16] <HymnToLife> mount*
[05:16] <wastrel> Lao:  did it work?
[05:17] <olahi> sudo mount -a
[05:17] <olahi> sorry Healot  i use the wrong phrase
[05:17] <HymnToLife> in the terminal olahi ;)
[05:17] <olahi> yes
[05:17] <shiv> is it possible to have kde and gnome together?
[05:17] <mikebot> shiv, yes
[05:17] <HymnToLife> of course shiv
[05:17] <HymnToLife> that's what I always have
[05:17] <Healot> nvm, really...
[05:17] <Lao> haven't tried yet, honestly I don't feel confortable messing with major files yet, I'm still pretty new
[05:17] <mikebot> shiv, but if you have both, and want to use gnome, for some reason your login screen will be kubuntu
[05:18] <Lao> today marks week 2 of Linux use
[05:18] <mikebot> shiv, don't ask me why
[05:18] <mikebot> shiv, i'm still trying to figure it out
[05:18] <Madpilot> shiv, you can run kde stuff on gnome, or vice verse, too - I run k3b on Gnome
[05:18] <HymnToLife> no mikebot
[05:18] <shiv> hmm
[05:18] <elkbuntu> your login screen will always be relevent to the last desktop package installed
[05:18] <HymnToLife> you can choose whatever your login screen is when installing KDE
[05:18] <mikebot> is there a way to change it back to gnome?
[05:18] <HymnToLife> certainly
[05:18] <mikebot> heh
[05:18] <HymnToLife> but I don't know it
[05:19] <shiv> u mean I can either login to Gnome or Kde at the login screen. Just choose the session u  mean?
[05:19] <mikebot> hah okay
[05:19] <HymnToLife> yes shiv
[05:19] <elkbuntu> you could try installing or reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:19] <shiv> so how do I install it ?
[05:19] <asdfmn> How can I get an application that doesn't use ALSA to use ALSA? There are no configuration options.. and if I run say OSS while Alsa is running it doesn't start unless I end the app using ALSA/etc
[05:19] <HymnToLife> shiv > which one do you have atm ?
[05:19] <mikebot> on my desktop i have a folder named 'downloads' but it says 'download' on one line and 's' on a second line...can i make it so it doesn't do this?
[05:19] <shiv> GNome
[05:19] <elkbuntu> shiv sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop
[05:19] <shiv> hmm
[05:19] <elkbuntu> shiv sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <shiv> thanks
[05:20] <shiv> let me try
[05:20] <HymnToLife> and don't forget to add the KDE 3.5.1 repo before
[05:20] <mikebot> HymnToLife, on my desktop i have a folder named 'downloads' but it says 'download' on one line and 's' on a second line...can i make it so it doesn't do this?
[05:20] <HymnToLife> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php for details
[05:20] <HymnToLife> mikebot> why me ?
[05:20] <shiv> hope it does not mess up anything. I am running everything fine after 3 days of hard work
[05:20] <mikebot> HymnToLife, i don't know
[05:20] <HymnToLife> lol I don't have a clue
[05:21] <mikebot> okay
[05:21] <mikebot> Madpilot, on my desktop i have a folder named 'downloads' but it says 'download' on one line and 's' on a second line...can i make it so it doesn't do this?
[05:21] <HymnToLife> don't worry shiv it won't ;)
[05:21] <mikebot> no one listens when you just type it without a name
[05:21] <shiv> thanks let me go ahead
[05:21] <mikebot> but when it has someones name, and shows up in red
[05:21] <mikebot> oh theyr ead it
[05:21] <Madpilot> mikebot, yeah, they read it, and have no idea how to solve your problem... sorry :P
[05:21] <mikebot> Madpilot, argh, okay
[05:22] <HymnToLife> try setting a shorter name :D
[05:22] <mikebot> Madpilot, HymnToLife, but you guys know what i'm talking about right? how it's on a different line?
[05:22] <HymnToLife> DLs :p
[05:22] <mikebot> it's "downloads"
[05:22] <mikebot> "download" would look funny
[05:22] <shiv> so after this install I just restart the PC, is that right?
[05:22] <mikebot> but i guess it would fit
[05:22] <Madpilot> mikebot, yeah, I do, but I'm not sure if there's a setting to tweak to change/fix that
[05:22] <HymnToLife> not necessarily
[05:22] <asdfmn> Change the font size for desktop icons
[05:22] <HymnToLife> you just logout and login back in KDE
[05:22] <asdfmn> Lol, true!
[05:22] <pr0cty> im about to run the 5.10 vmx, how does that differ from the vmdk [disk] ? and would it affect my XP drives
[05:23] <wastrel> i think there's some wrapper prog that you can use to let an oss prog use alsa
[05:23] <mikebot> HymnToLife, i also have a folder "things that i have written for school, or other things i may have written"
[05:23] <wastrel> asdfmn:  aoss
[05:23] <wastrel> mikebot:  gnome or kde?
[05:23] <HymnToLife> mikebot> that is NOT funny :p
[05:23] <Healot> pr0cty, you shall use VMware or VMware player to boot that virtual disk
[05:23] <mikebot> wastrel, gnome
[05:24] <mikebot> wastrel, and if you know how to change my login screen without reinstalling anything
[05:24] <mikebot> HymnToLife, heh
[05:24] <Healot> anyway, it's a virtual machine, IT should not affect your host OD
[05:24] <Healot> OS
[05:24] <asdfmn> aoss gives me f***ing horrible quality, not to mention I also don't want this only for oss.
[05:24] <Coag> Is there a dapper specific channel?
[05:24] <asdfmn> #ubuntu+1
[05:24] <olahi> do i have to reformat my pc just to get the latest version of ubuntu?
[05:24] <wastrel> mikebot:  login screen?  you mean the gdm theme?
[05:24] <pr0cty> didnt think, so..just having the workstation..and ppl saying use vmplayer..wasnt sure how itd go
[05:24] <HymnToLife> olahi> no
[05:25] <pr0cty> im good now i think
[05:25] <Bung> ive installed xfce4 with apt-get, and ive just tried to install xfce4-goodies, but after restarting xfce, the items still arent available
[05:25] <olahi> what if the old version is not supported anymore?
[05:25] <mikebot> wastrel, i don't know what gdm theme is...i have kde and gnome, and my login screen is kde
[05:25] <wastrel> mikebot:  the icon name thing - check nautilus prefs maybe...
[05:25] <Healot> they still support older ubuntu releases,...
[05:25] <Healot> commercially that is
[05:25] <Madpilot> olahi, no, you can upgrade in place quite easily
[05:25] <HymnToLife> olahi> you do _not_ have to format to install the new vrsion
[05:25] <olahi> supposing im using ubuntu as my mail postfix mysql and apache,sshd and ftp server, do i have to reformat it?
[05:25] <Bung> does anyone else run xfce? and have the goodies working?
[05:25] <Healot> it's better if you do the upgrade... apt-get dist-upgrade to be exact
[05:25] <wastrel> mikebot:  i don't know how to change kdm (kde display manager) themes. but i bet kde theme websites do.... maybe kde-look.org?
[05:26] <HymnToLife> for the thir time olahi > NON
[05:26] <Healot> mikebot, type dpkg-reconfigure kdm... if you installed kdm :)
[05:26] <mikebot> wastrel, argh, okay
[05:26] <olahi> cuz like fedora every six months it has new version and few months the old version gets legacy or unsupported anymore
[05:26] <Madpilot> olahi, no
[05:26] <Madpilot> !tell olahi about upgrade
[05:26] <Healot> they still support older release...
[05:26] <mikebot> Healot, YES
[05:27] <olahi> they? who?
[05:27] <Healot> but via community...
[05:27] <HymnToLife> w00T, 5:30 am
[05:27] <HymnToLife> guess I should go to bed
[05:27] <mikebot> Healot, thank you
[05:27] <mikebot> Healot, on my desktop i have a folder named 'downloads' but it says 'download' on one line and 's' on a second line...can i make it so it doesn't do this?
[05:27] <Madpilot> olahi, the URL the bot just sent you has info on the Hoary->Breezy upgrade, that'll give you some idea of what's involved in updating your Ubuntu install
[05:27] <mikebot> haha
[05:27] <Healot> mikebot, you can set the size of the icom to be wider...
[05:27] <Healot> so it support more characters in one line?
[05:28] <mikebot> Healot, isa that the oinly solution?
[05:28] <Healot> on kde, check out the kde control panel...
[05:28] <Healot> YES, mike bot... or use smaller font for icons?
[05:28] <mikebot> Healot, okay thanks
[05:28] <HymnToLife> going to bed
[05:28] <Healot> well, that's make it not the only option right, haha jo idiot
[05:28] <HymnToLife> good night people :)
[05:28] <pr0cty> later
[05:29] <mikebot> Healot, where doi i chagnet he font size?
[05:30] <Healot> well, Take a look at Desktop side bar, or whatever you called it?
[05:30] <mikebot> i called it soemthign?
[05:30] <Healot> drop down the tree... somewhere there... not using KDE atm though
[05:30] <Healot> oh tree list...
[05:30] <mikebot> i'm actually using gnome
[05:30] <mikebot> but
[05:31] <Healot> ok, then goto System -> Preferences -> Font...
[05:31] <Healot> Check out the Desktop font, choose smaller font, i guess
[05:31] <Coag> ok well #ubuntu+1 is dead
[05:31] <Coag> so I'll ask here
[05:32] <dabaR> In one line?
[05:32] <Coag> I did a fresh install of dapper and X gave me two errors, one about GLCore, and one about the Core Pointer Device
[05:32] <mikebot> ugh,changing it to 9 still doesn't do it
[05:32] <Coag> it seems /dev/input/mice does not exist
[05:32] <Healot> well, try smaller?
[05:32] <asdfmn> How can I figure out what sound system an application uses? Like ALSA/OSS/etc?
[05:32] <Coag> how can I go about finding my mouse? :?
[05:32] <mikebot> iw ant tor ead them too though
[05:32] <Healot> or different font...
[05:32] <mikebot> it's okay though
[05:32] <Healot> preferably mono font
[05:32] <mikebot> i'll just limit my folder names
[05:33] <Healot> mikebot, try to change theme, might work?
[05:33] <asdfmn> When you reboot it automatically resizes the names so it's not like that
[05:33] <mikebot> i like this brown theme though
[05:33] <asdfmn> ..
[05:33] <mikebot> haha
[05:33] <mikebot> it's okay
[05:33] <Healot> different theme has different font settings
[05:33] <Healot> or you have very small screen?
[05:33] <wastrel> Coag:  usb mouse?
[05:34] <Coag> yes
[05:34] <asdfmn> How can I figure out what sound system an application uses? Like ALSA/OSS/etc?
[05:34] <wastrel> Coag:  lsusb to see if it's recognized
[05:34] <elkbuntu> what application are you referring to?
[05:34] <crimsun> asdfmn: lsof, ldd, etc.
[05:34] <dabaR> asdfmn: is it in the preferences?
[05:34] <asdfmn> No it's not
[05:34] <dabaR> ok, go with crimsun
[05:34] <KurtKraut> Is there a way of editing ID3 with Rhythymbox ?
[05:34] <mikebot> Healot, 1280x1024
[05:34] <Coag> wastrel
[05:35] <Coag> nothing came up from lsusb
[05:35] <Healot> mikebot, let's say. was it the desktop icon, or the file manager icon?
[05:35] <asdfmn> I'm referring to Zsnes atm, but not limited to in the future..
[05:35] <crimsun> KurtKraut: not really, but you can install easytag
[05:35] <mikebot> Healot, desktop
[05:35] <wastrel> Coag:  mmm. that would be why /dev/input/mice doesn't exist  :] 
[05:35] <Coag> heh
[05:35] <Madpilot> KurtKraut, to edit id3 tags, try EasyTag or Cowbell (I prefer EasyTag myself)
[05:35] <Healot> well, mine is 1024x768 (4:3) and 10 mono font is file... I has icons lke 16 characters long and still in a line
[05:36] <Coag> dmesg | grep USB turns up the mouse being recognized
[05:36] <Healot> both file manager/desktop
[05:36] <davelopue> hello all
[05:36] <Healot> and default Human theme
[05:36] <KurtKraut> crimsun, Madpilot thanks for the help, but this issue made me feel that Rhythymbox as a 'incomplete' tool ;/
[05:36] <olahi> does kaffeine support mp3?
[05:37] <davelopue> not to cause flames, but would someone please make linux work correctly?
[05:37] <Healot> yes. with the appropriate plugins installed
[05:37] <wastrel> Coag:  k, so your usb modules may need restarting ?  i'm not super familiar w/ usb troubleshooting
[05:37] <olahi> how do i get the plugin for kaffeine?
[05:37] <mikebot> Healot, hrm, i have default theme (the brown one) at 1280x1024, and can only fit 8 characters with Sans font at size 9
[05:37] <Healot> define "does not work correctly", brief and detail
[05:37] <Healot> weird, mikebot, in your case
[05:37] <s|k> I don't have sound
[05:37] <codin> hi
[05:37] <s|k> :/
[05:37] <Madpilot> davelopue, right after someone makes Windows work "correctly"
[05:38] <s|k> ubotu, sound
[05:38] <ubotu> sound is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:38] <mikebot> Healot, argh, okay, thanks anyway
[05:38] <Madpilot> KurtKraut, EasyTag is a very good app - rolling it into a play doesn't strike me as useful...
[05:39] <Madpilot> *a player, that is... :P
[05:39] <Healot> to play mp3/mpeg audio 1,2,3, just install libmad... it should work for most gnome/kde apps
[05:39] <davelopue> madpilot: i hear that ubuntu has fewer buggs so i install it.. chown is buggy durring instillation so it takes me 2 hours of troubbleshooting to get x running (besides the age old x.org conf) so now i got x up and the wifi doesn't work, the sound doesn't work, the 3d acceleration doesn't work, and when try to start the "synaptics"? program to add applications it does NOTHING! no error, no nothing
[05:39] <KurtKraut> Madpilot, yes it is useful. Rhythymbox arranges music fully based on ID3 tags. So if you notice something wrong, you cant fix it thru Rh, so this is boring
[05:40] <gmoore> i need to be able to send smtp mail on my windows system. is it possible to set up my Ubuntu system to send smtp mail somehow, and use it like a relay?
[05:40] <erisco> how can I get .rar support?
[05:40] <GTroy> erisco: pay money
[05:40] <davelopue> i get to either spend $300 for an opperating system that gives me NO CONTROLL WHAT SO EVER or spend a month getting the other to play a friggin' dvd
[05:40] <davelopue> sorry, i just had to vent for a minute...
[05:40] <olahi> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:40] <olahi> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.cc.columbia.edu_pub_software_kde_stable_3.5.1_kubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:40] <olahi> :(
[05:41] <olahi> why is that?
[05:41] <Asus> DCC SEND IrcCrashInitialized.
[05:41] <erisco> GTroy, can you be a bit more specific?
[05:41] <GTroy> erisco: you can use it for a while
[05:41] <GTroy> erisco: but after so many days you have to pay for it
[05:41] <asdfmn> How can I get an application, such as zsnes, or Alien Arena, that don't use ALSA, to use ALSA.. and I'm not including AOSS (Crap quality, and only for OSS IMO)
[05:41] <proxosi> hi guys do anyone have expreience on domain, webhosting?
[05:41] <erisco> GTroy, is there a package for it then?
[05:42] <GTroy> erisco: sudo apt-get rar?
[05:42] <GTroy> I think that's it
[05:42] <Healot> olahi, maybe there is not such package on the specified server? or the server offline, or you can't connect to that repos server?
[05:42] <erisco> GTroy, I will give that a go then
[05:42] <Healot> "install"
[05:42] <olahi> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:42] <olahi> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.cc.columbia.edu_pub_software_kde_stable_3.5.1_kubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:42] <GTroy> erisco: yeah, sudo apt-get install rar!!!
[05:42] <olahi> i got that when doing apt-get update
[05:42] <GTroy> erisco: skip the exclamations
[05:42] <odat> ok i give up i can not get ubuntu installed
[05:43] <KentJonathan> how i can make more ip's ?
[05:43] <illest> how do i run window apps under linux
[05:43] <Madpilot> davelopue, if you're really having that many problems, try a total reinstall...
[05:43] <olahi> all the new breezy sites i just added has a problem
[05:43] <GTroy> illest: some run some don't under wine and cedega
[05:43] <KentJonathan> of my connection of interent
[05:43] <Healot> why the hell you need to run Windows app in linux in the first place?
[05:43] <dabaR> olahi: well, remove them.
[05:43] <Kr4t05> Does someone wanna tell me how to get to the effing KDE Control Center?
[05:43] <illest> exept wine
[05:43] <Madpilot> olahi, can you pastebin your sources.list, please?
[05:43] <Healot> use Windows to run Windows app for bill's sake
[05:43] <Kr4t05> Please?
[05:43] <davelopue> Madpilot, this is the total reinstall
[05:44] <erisco> GTroy, and this will stop functioning after a period of time?
[05:44] <s|k> http://pastebin.com/584541  <---- does that look like my sound stuff is being detected?
[05:44] <dabaR> Kr4t05: did you ask #kubuntu?
[05:44] <davelopue> Madpilot,  this is the first time i've been in X
[05:44] <s|k> sound hardware*
[05:44] <KentJonathan> ?
[05:44] <KentJonathan> !ips
[05:44] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KentJonathan
[05:44] <KentJonathan> !ip
[05:44] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KentJonathan
[05:44] <GTroy> erisco: yep, but there's a free rar too
[05:44] <Bung> does anyone have the xfce4-goodies working?
[05:44] <GTroy> erisco: but it's not as good
[05:44] <odat> ubuntu detects my drives and installs the system but neither grub  nor lilo will boot ubuntu
[05:44] <dabaR> KentJonathan: what do you mean make IPs?
[05:45] <erisco> GTroy, what is this "free" rar and how is it worse?
[05:45] <s|k> can anyone help me please :/
[05:45] <Madpilot> davelopue, OK - start with the simplest problem - Synaptic not coming up - no errors when you go System -> Admin ->Synaptic then type your own user pw?
[05:45] <GTroy> erisco: doesn't extract as many types of files
[05:45] <olahi> http://pastebin.com/584542   <--these are the new lines i added and gave me an error
[05:45] <GTroy> erisco: I think there's three types of rar files
[05:45] <dabaR> s|k: ask crimsun
[05:45] <dabaR> olahi: remove them.
[05:45] <Healot> i hate whining linux users... can't you be more specific?
[05:45] <s|k> crimsun, my sound isn't working
[05:46] <s|k> would you mind helping me please?
[05:46] <KentJonathan> dabar 200.77.218.250 i have that ip  i want more example 200.77.218.251
[05:46] <olahi> k
[05:46] <dabaR> KentJonathan: and do you think this is best discussed with your ISP?
[05:46] <odat> ubuntu detects my drives and installs the system but neither grub  nor lilo  work
[05:47] <dabaR> KentJonathan: IPs do not just get created. They get assigned.
[05:47] <KentJonathan> but i want more ips because i want to put psyBNC ..
[05:47] <dabaR> If you would like to get more computers online, use a networking device such as a router or a hub/switch
[05:47] <olahi> what does this konqueror says " cant init audio driver alsasink trying another one..
[05:47] <Healot> why breezy drops kudzu?
[05:47] <dabaR> KentJonathan: If you need more public IP addresses, contact your ISP.
[05:47] <gmoore> postfix wants to know for what network blocks should this machine relay mail; it has entered "127.0.0.0/8". if i want it to relay mail from any computer on my network (192.168.0.X) what would i change that to?
[05:47] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, each piece of hardware usually only has one IP...
[05:47] <olahi> and it says again no useable audio
[05:47] <erisco> GTroy, what is the package name for that then?
[05:47] <crimsun> s|k: what's the issue?
[05:48] <KentJonathan> dabaR okey
[05:48] <s|k> my sound isn't working crimsun
[05:48] <s|k> I installed ubuntu yesterday
[05:48] <dabaR> s|k: you had some pastebin post?
[05:48] <s|k> and it's never worked
[05:48] <GTroy> erisco: hmm can't remember right now
[05:48] <s|k> http://pastebin.com/584541  <---- does that look like my sound stuff is being detected?
[05:48] <s|k> dabaR, ^^
[05:48] <GTroy> erisco: are you using rar to open video?
[05:48] <s|k> that's all the output the website said I should look at
[05:48] <wastrel> gmoore:  leave the 127 and add 192.168.0.24
[05:49] <wastrel> gmoore:  er 192.168.0.0/24
[05:49] <erisco> GTroy, I am using rar to extract compressed files
[05:49] <gmoore> so would the entire entry look like "192.168.0.0/24" ?
[05:49] <davelopue> madpilot: thanks for offering you're help, but i'll see what i can fix on my own first
[05:49] <Healot> oh mail setup...
[05:49] <dabaR> Who knows how to get rails set up on Ubuntu?
[05:49] <erisco> GTroy, I believe the free version allows this
[05:49] <odat> HELP ubuntu detects my drives and installs the system but neither grub  nor lilo  work
[05:49] <wastrel> gmoore:  you want the 127 number there also
[05:49] <GTroy> erisco: I'll look for the free rar version
[05:49] <Healot> among the most confusing setup ever, in *NIXes
[05:49] <Alexi5> wazzup
[05:49] <erisco> GTroy, I would appreciate that
[05:50] <Healot> there is the free rar
[05:50] <Alexi5> everytime i try to use windows i end up going back to ubuntu
[05:50] <gmoore> wastrel: how do i put them both in? as in what would it look like? delimited by something?
[05:50] <dabaR> odat: how do they not work, in what way?
[05:50] <wastrel> gmoore:  what are you looking at?  some configuration wizard, or a text config file?
[05:50] <GTroy> erisco: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[05:50] <gmoore> dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[05:51] <crimsun> s|k: your hda chipset's driver is loaded
[05:51] <shiv> when should I use update and when should I use upgrade?
[05:51] <Coag> wastrel: the problem was fixed by my rebooting :P
[05:51] <wastrel> gmoore:  try space separated
[05:51] <odat> dabaR, grub says      error 2
[05:51] <s|k> crimsun, so what do you think the issue might be
[05:51] <crimsun> s|k: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' not give you anything?
[05:51] <wastrel> yay
[05:51] <gmoore> so it should look like "127.0.0.0/8 192.168.0.0/24"  ?
[05:51] <odat> dabaR, and when i tried lilo i got a bunch of 9999
[05:51] <wastrel> gmoore:  i'd go with that :] 
[05:51] <Healot> however there is not "free" 'rar'...
[05:51] <gmoore> k one sec trying it
[05:51] <dabaR> :(
[05:51] <erisco> GTroy, alrighty then
[05:51] <dabaR> Again I broke my packages.
[05:51] <Healot> try the flag lba32, odat >?
[05:52] <s|k> crimsun, it says: Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[05:52] <s|k> but I don't hear anything
[05:52] <GTroy> erisco: pm if you got what you needed
[05:52] <dabaR> odat: well, get the live CD, and try installing grub that way.
[05:52] <Healot> and after that re-run lilo
[05:52] <s|k> sound is not muted and volume isup
[05:52] <erisco> Gtroy, hopefully when the rar trial runs out, the free one will have no problems overriding it
[05:52] <KentJonathan> if i finesh the download of wine he support in this time the extension of .exe/
[05:52] <GTroy> erisco: yep, what happened to me
[05:52] <dabaR> :((
[05:52] <Healot> s|k, do you know what's the model/brand of your sound card? you really need to know about your hardware before installing any *NIXes
[05:53] <s|k> it's realltek Healot
[05:53] <s|k> the output says IBM
[05:53] <Healot> what model?
[05:53] <s|k> :/
[05:53] <Healot> what output?
[05:53] <gmoore> wastrel: sweet i can telnet to <system>:25 from my windows comp and it replies to ehlo, looks good. thanks
[05:53] <s|k> let me try and find out
[05:53] <dabaR> http://pastebin.com/584548 :(
[05:53] <shiv> when should I use apt-get update and when should I use apt-get upgrade?
[05:53] <s|k> I belive it's on the motherboard Healot
[05:53] <Healot> ac97?
[05:53] <dabaR> That is a sudo aptitude -f install. And I only have breezy sources.
[05:53] <s|k> http://pastebin.com/584541  <---- this output Healot
[05:53] <Healot> or a pci card?
[05:54] <crimsun> s|k: probably just a missing register init
[05:54] <wastrel> np np
[05:54] <crimsun> s|k: following the directions that are being sent to you
[05:54] <crimsun> !tell s|k about alsa-source
[05:54] <gmoore> wastrel: AWESOME, it relays mail fast as hell too. thanks
[05:54] <s|k> k
[05:54] <crimsun> s|k: choose the "hda-intel" driver when you get to the dpkg-reconfigure stage
[05:55] <crimsun> s|k: also, answer "yes" to debug and plug n' play
[05:55] <KentJonathan> Help i have a question i will want to install the mirc.exe but he have error and i am install the wine
[05:55] <Healot> ALC880 Analog [ALC880 Analog]  ?
[05:55] <KentJonathan> how i can open the program
[05:55] <s|k> crimsun and Healot k yeah it says Intel High Definition Audio Realtek ALC861 8-channel
[05:55] <s|k> okay
[05:55] <s|k> crimsun, okay
[05:55] <Healot> hum...  you can always... get the driver from REaltek site... http://www,realtek.com.tw
[05:55] <odat> Healot, what is flag lba32?
[05:55] <s|k> tried that
[05:56] <dabaR> Still, even though the package system breaks like that...it is still pretty amazing that it can repair itself with just one command.
[05:56] <odat> dabaR, how do i install it from the live cd?
[05:56] <gmoore> wastrel: only thing is, i sent it to abcd@eastlink.ca and the 'from' address is "gpbot@eastlink.ca". i certainly didn't set up postfix with any mention of eastlink.ca. what's going on there? :)
[05:56] <crimsun> Healot: that's not recommended
[05:56] <Healot> s|k, get the driver here www.station-drivers.com/page/realtek.htm
[05:56] <KentJonathan> ?
[05:56] <dabaR> odat: I am not sure. However, I have some clues. Google for knoppix grub repair, or so, and search the ubuntuforums.org and the wiki.ubuntu.com. If you try hard enough, I am sure you will be able to find good instructions.
[05:57] <Healot> but i solved most of my older realtek with kern 2.4...
[05:57] <asdfmn> checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.0... no
[05:57] <asdfmn>    ->   Whats the package name for SDL? I've installed libsdl1.2-dev and libsdl1.2debian and crap.
[05:57] <dabaR> crimsun: say if I was to determine a universe package breaks my system every time I install it. Do I report that anywhere?
[05:57] <Healot> well, with the newer 2.6, it configured fine
[05:57] <crimsun> dabaR: Malone
[05:57] <crimsun> dabaR: although that's a bit vague
[05:57] <dabaR> crimsun: OK, I will see whether it does it.
[05:57] <KentJonathan> One people can help me ?
[05:57] <s|k> thanks healot
[05:57] <dabaR> KentJonathan: you have to ask a question
[05:58] <wastrel> gmoore:  i assume postfix pulled that from your systems hostname ?   i'm not actually a postfix user
[05:58] <KentJonathan> dabaR i will install the wine y go to download the mirc6.17.exe but he dont open why? because i am install wine
[05:58] <dabaR> KentJonathan: Use xchat.
[05:58] <gmoore> actually i checked main.cf and it appears i set it up a long time ago to use my old isp's smtp server as a relay... hmmm. i hope it can send mail without using that as a relay, i really want it to be 'stand alone'
[05:59] <KentJonathan> dabaR he dont have proteccion to protect the channels of flood etc..
[05:59] <dabaR> KentJonathan: I do not use wine or mirc.
[05:59] <Rob_Dude> Can someone recomend a nice IDE for C#?
[06:00] <sudharsh> Mono
[06:00] <Healot> try monodevelop?
[06:00] <dabaR> Rob_Dude: sudo aptitude search mono
[06:00] <Healot> for windows, sharpdevelop
[06:00] <KentJonathan> but the X-chat he dont have proteccions :(
[06:00] <wastrel> gmoore:  actually it's probably better to use an ISP's mail server to relay - a lot of spam filters like to do reverse lookups on the systems trying to deliver mail to them and consider non-matching reverses spammy
[06:00] <gmoore> hehe unfortunately it isn't my mail server anymore as i'm moving every 4 months and i keep changing isp's :P
[06:01] <Rob_Dude> thank you
[06:01] <jp> hello
[06:01] <ubuntu> hi
[06:01] <Healot> s|k, well that page doesn't list the linux driver... http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlhd-2.aspx?lineid=2004052&famid=2004052&series=2004061&Software=True >> does
[06:01] <jp> I have a question
[06:01] <ubuntu> k
[06:01] <asdfmn> !SDL
[06:01] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, asdfmn
[06:02] <salah> Can I play chess Here?
[06:02] <s|k> thanks
[06:02] <Madpilot> jp, if you ask an actual question, you might get an actual answer :)
[06:02] <s|k> doing the alsa thing atm
[06:02] <ubuntu> :P\
[06:02] <crimsun> s|k: keep in mind if you use the drivers from realtek directly, we can't support you
[06:02] <salah> I mean is there any chess in Ubuntu'
[06:02] <s|k> crimsun, I'm doing it your way atm
[06:02] <s|k> ;|
[06:03] <Madpilot> salah, search Synaptic - I think there's a number of chess apps
[06:03] <KentJonathan> !kivirc
[06:03] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KentJonathan
[06:03] <Healot> "libsdl1.2debian", perhaps
[06:03] <dabaR> asdfmn: sudo aptitude search sdl
[06:04] <asdfmn> I did and downloaded just about all it f'ing gave me
[06:04] <KentJonathan> !kvirc
[06:04] <ubotu> KVIrc is a full-featured, intuitive Qt-based IRC client with MDI, a powerful scripting language, plugins, and optional suppis alsot for KDE 2.x. Check it out at http://www.kvirc.net/
[06:04] <s|k> crimsun, I'm getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/584554
[06:04] <salah> I downloaded one but How can I find it out
[06:04] <dabaR> I can move which partition my / is on, right?
[06:04] <KentJonathan> kvirc he have for linux?
[06:04] <ubuntu> i get hi display above 800x600 on a live cd but on in install all i get is 800x600. why and what do i need to do?
[06:05] <crimsun> s|k: apt-get -f install
[06:05] <crimsun> then continue
[06:05] <jp> I have installed edubuntu, kubuntu, and ubuntu Breezy all on the same HDD and all of them are screwed up. Yet, I installed Ubuntu Hoary and it is working fine. The Breezy's "freeze" up and I can't do anything except use the off button on the box to reboot ?? any i\deas?
[06:05] <arnole> what's the best way to search for packages from the cmd line?
[06:05] <s|k> k
[06:05] <dabaR> I always run out of space on my / partition, what would you suggest?
[06:05] <Healot> apt-search cache "anything you like to search"
[06:05] <dabaR> ubuntu: you need to fixres
[06:05] <Coag> anyone have any links for the WMP54G under dapper
[06:05] <dabaR> ubotu: tell ubuntu about fixres
[06:05] <asdfmn>    ->   Whats the package name for SDL? I've installed libsdl1.2-dev and libsdl1.2debian-all and crap.
[06:05] <Coag> because dapper thinks it knows how to handle it, then it doesn't work
[06:05] <ubuntu> format :)
[06:05] <ubuntu> is that a command?
[06:06] <Healot> those are theSDL lib
[06:06] <dabaR> right
[06:06] <Coag> ubotu: tell Coag about WMP54G
[06:06] <asdfmn> Well, whats the exact package name?
[06:06] <Healot> those packages are ?
[06:06] <arnole> what's the best way to search for packages from the cmd line?
[06:07] <ubuntu> apt-get
[06:07] <wastrel> arnole:  apt-cache search  and grep
[06:07] <asdfmn> sudo apt-cache search
[06:07] <dabaR> arnole: sudo aptitude search
[06:07] <wastrel> asdfmn:  sudo not necessary
[06:07] <Healot> well the *dev is the development library... to compile SDL program and stuff
[06:07] <ubuntu> man apt-get 4 more info
[06:07] <arnole> thanks
[06:07] <dabaR> no, just aptitude search
[06:07] <asdfmn> my bad
[06:07] <salah> I  have downloaded 3dchess .but How can I find it out?
[06:08] <sudharsh> salah: 3dchess in the terminal
[06:08] <dabaR> salah: run sudo dpkg -L 3dchess
[06:09] <salah> it's not running
[06:09] <asdfmn> K
[06:10] <KentJonathan> !gdesklet
[06:10] <ubotu> KentJonathan: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:10] <Madpilot> salah, "3dchess" doesn't work
[06:10] <Madpilot> ?
[06:11] <asdfmn> http://pastebin.com/584556 -> What must I do to get SDL??
[06:12] <s|k> crimson I got a warning that volume control quit unexpectedly
[06:12] <dabaR> does one need to run configure using sudo?
[06:12] <wastrel> no
[06:12] <s|k> and then some notices that sound hw was detected
[06:12] <s|k> should I reload crimson?
[06:12] <Healot> asdfmn, you need the libsdl*-dev >> version must be higher than 1.2
[06:12] <wastrel> well unless you don't have write perms on the directory
[06:12] <dabaR> asdfmn: don't use sudo there.
[06:12] <Healot> or install the znes that available in ubuntu repos...
[06:13] <asdfmn> dabaR I have to
[06:13] <s|k> Healot, should I reload? I got a warning saying volume control quit unexpected
[06:13] <dabaR> asdfmn: why install an older version of zsnes than the one in the repos?
[06:13] <s|k> I'm going to reload
[06:13] <Healot> reboot, yes.. i think
[06:14] <Coag> anyone know anything about the WMP54G and Dapper?
[06:14] <asdfmn> Healot: I have libsdl1.2-dev
[06:14] <Healot> try to invoke '/usr/bin/sdl-config'
[06:14] <Healot> is it there?
[06:14] <asdfmn> works
[06:14] <asdfmn> Yes
[06:14] <Coag> It's really quite wierd
[06:14] <asdfmn> If I skip that using the config, I get an SDL error while using make
[06:14] <asdfmn> chips/../gblhdr.h:95:18: error: SDL.h: No such file or directory
[06:14] <Healot> then you should be able to compile you zsnes... anyway, I recommend the zsnes in ubuntu repos
[06:15] <asdfmn> Well, I'm not able to, and that's my problem!
[06:15] <Coag> after my dapper install, I had no network device, which was fine I got it working through ndiswrapper like I usually have to, the I apt-get upgraded, rebooted, and ubuntu thinks it knows y device now
[06:15] <Coag> but I run ifconfig eth0 up and I get an error
[06:15] <[nige] > anyone know how to install php5 on breezy?
[06:15] <Healot> !tell asdfmn about apt-get
[06:15] <Coag> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[06:15] <dabaR> [nige] : it seems to be one of the packages.
[06:15] <KentJonathan> Can not find the X libraries.
[06:15] <KentJonathan>  where i can download the libraries?
[06:16] <asdfmn> I don't want the one in the repo or else I'd get it.
[06:16] <[nige] > i have tried that
[06:16] <Healot> KentJonathan, install xserver-common first?
[06:16] <dabaR> Who knows how to set up rails on breezy?
[06:16] <Healot> and install all the x*-dev packages
[06:16] <whitynz> apt-get install rails
[06:16] <KentJonathan> ok where i can download?
[06:16] <whitynz> :p
[06:17] <KentJonathan> apt-get install rails this is?
[06:17] <odat> dabaR, apparently grub no lilo are able to figure out how to use two ata drives
[06:17] <dabaR> whitynz: I have installed. How would I test?
[06:17] <whitynz> rails <dir>
[06:17] <[nige] > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:17] <[nige] >   libapache2-mod-php5.0: Depends: apache2-common (>= 2.0.54-5ubuntu2) but 2.0.53-5ubuntu5.5 is to be installed
[06:17] <Healot> zsnes is in the "multiverse" section, on the "otherfs" packages... asdfmn
[06:17] <KentJonathan> ?
[06:17] <s|k> crimsun, I did everything, rebooted and I still don't have sound
[06:17] <whitynz> theres a good how-to video for rails
[06:17] <dabaR> whitynz: where does the dir have to be? any specific path?
[06:17] <whitynz> KentJonathan, using console
[06:18] <[nige] > I get the message when i try and install  libapache2-mod-php5.0
[06:18] <KentJonathan> apt-get install rails <- this correct to install :S
[06:18] <whitynz> dabaR, anywhere, I used home
[06:18] <asdfmn> Healot: Like I said, if I wanted the one in the repository I'd get it.
[06:18] <crimsun> s|k: cat /proc/asound/version
[06:18] <olahi> how can i only allow specific user that can do su - ?
[06:18] <whitynz> and just rails <blah>
[06:18] <s|k> k
[06:18] <KentJonathan> Can not find the X libraries. where i can download the libraries?
[06:18] <Healot> I just dunno why ppl do it the hard way :)
[06:18] <s|k> crimsun: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10.
[06:18] <s|k> Compiled on Mar  4 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-10-386.
[06:18] <asdfmn> because 1.42 is a yucky version
[06:18] <dabaR> whitynz: and then? Does it get accessed through the web browser?
[06:19] <[nige] > any ideas
[06:19] <KentJonathan> please
[06:19] <crimsun> s|k: erm, you should have 1.0.11rc2 if you followed the directions I gave you
[06:19] <b3nw> does anyone know what needs to be installed for totem to play .h264 encoded stuff?
[06:19] <whitynz> dabaR, umm I think it's start ./config/server
[06:19] <s|k> I did
[06:19] <whitynz> get the video
[06:19] <whitynz> I haven't done it for a while
[06:19] <dabaR> [nige] : put the output of "cat /etc/issue;cat /etc/apt/sources.list" to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:19] <s|k> I just copied and pasted the instructions from ubotu
[06:20] <s|k> into the termanal crimsun
[06:20] <s|k> terminal*
[06:20] <shiv> when should I use apt-get update and apt-upgrade?
[06:20] <dabaR> whitynz: "start ./config/server"
[06:20] <KentJonathan> ?
[06:20] <whitynz> hold on dabaR
[06:20] <whitynz> dabaR: http://media.rubyonrails.org/video/rails_take2_with_sound.mov
[06:20] <whitynz> get that
[06:21] <whitynz> it tells you how to use everything
[06:21] <KentJonathan> ONe people can help me?
[06:21] <[nige] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9739
[06:22] <dabaR> whitynz: http://dabar.selfip.org/rails/public/index.html I don't buy it.
[06:22] <dabaR> whitynz: thanks muchly.
[06:22] <[nige] > dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9739 is the output
[06:23] <olahi> any help for me that only specific user can do root or su?
[06:23] <olahi> anyone?
[06:23] <KentJonathan> ?
[06:23] <dabaR> of course only specific user can do sudo
[06:23] <dabaR> olahi: read this
[06:23] <dabaR> !root
[06:23] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:23] <Healot> as listed in /etc/sudoers
[06:24] <asdfmn> It looks like the 1.36 ZSnes sdl crap is br0k3n :(
[06:24] <asdfmn> 1.42 configures/makes fine
[06:24] <crimsun> s|k: use this one instead: http://archive.progeny.com/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10+1.0.11rc3-1_all.deb
[06:24] <dabaR> [nige] : well, let me tell you why it is bad to use ubuntuguide... You used that right?
[06:24] <s|k> oh okay
[06:24] <[nige] > yep
[06:24] <[nige] > i believe soo
[06:24] <s|k> crimsun, what was the command for ubotu to get those instcurtions again?
[06:24] <s|k> instructions*
[06:24] <dabaR> [nige] : well, you screwed up a bit. However, luckily, I think it should be an easy fix.
[06:24] <[nige] > actuallly it was from: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44082&page=2&highlight=php5
[06:24] <crimsun> s|k: /msg ubotu alsa-source
[06:24] <[nige] > okay
[06:25] <[nige] > how so tell me more :)
[06:25] <odat> HELP grub nor lilo are able to figure out how to use two ata drives
[06:25] <s|k> thanks
[06:25] <s|k>  /msg ubotu alsa-source
[06:25] <s|k> oops
[06:26] <KentJonathan> One people can help me of X-chat?
[06:26] <markl> ok so my installation had a weird apt-get problem after the first reboot, and it didn't install X
[06:26] <markl> is there an easy way to get the desktop loaded & set up?
[06:27] <KentJonathan> ?
[06:27] <KentJonathan> Healot can you helpme?
[06:27] <dabaR> [nige] : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9740 is what you will have in the file after you are done. run "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" paste the what is in the aforementioned URL over what you have. Save, close, run "sudo aptitude update&&sudo aptitude -f install&&sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[06:28] <dabaR> I am off, gotta catch a bus.
[06:28] <s|k> crimson am I building alsa drivers with ISA PnP support?
[06:28] <htr1wy> I installed ubuntu today and it's fantastic! Been a long time since i've enjoyed the computer this much!
[06:28] <KentJonathan> One people can help me of X-chat?
[06:28] <s|k> htr1wy, do you have sound?
[06:29] <s|k> I'm going to click yes crimsun
[06:29] <htr1wy> I didn't have the speakers on but now I do.
[06:29] <crouchingMonkey> i cant get mplayer installed, i think there something wrong with my repos, can i get a hand plz ?
[06:29] <s|k> can you print htr1wy ?
[06:29] <s|k> :/
[06:29] <odat> HELP grub nor lilo are able to figure out how to use two ata drives
[06:29] <KentJonathan> plz
[06:29] <htr1wy> Yes to a new HP 3210 all in one
[06:30] <Healot> what about x-chat that you need help on?
[06:30] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, enable the multiverse repo and apt-get install mplayer-586
[06:30] <[nige] > okay
[06:30] <[nige] > da doing that now
[06:30] <[nige] > :)
[06:31] <crimsun> s|k: answer "yes"
[06:31] <s|k> htr1wy, sounds good
[06:31] <s|k> I wish I were so lucky
[06:31] <asdfmn> kr4t05
[06:31] <s|k> I installed things and it's been a fight all the way
[06:31] <asdfmn> 
[06:31] <s|k> but everyone in here is so helpful
[06:31] <s|k> :)
[06:31] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, don't forget you need to do an apt-get update after you alter sources.list
[06:33] <crouchingMonkey> lakcaj, i did the apt-get update and then install mplayer but no luck
[06:33] <s|k> you know I'm not sure I want to ever update ubuntu again
[06:33] <htr1wy> I've had to tinker and stumble around a little but this is so much different than Windows. I'm on an older Dell box.
[06:33] <s|k> after I'm done having thing everything work
[06:33] <crouchingMonkey> lakcaj,  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:33] <s|k> and having to go through all this all over again :(
[06:33] <Healot> oh
[06:34] <Healot> you open one or more program that uses apt-get...
[06:35] <KentJonathan> One people can help me of X-chat??
[06:35] <sudharsh> KentJonathan: what is the problem?
[06:35] <Healot> on what aspect/subject specifically? plugin, script?
[06:35] <rein> New to Ubuntu. Have installed GCC 4 but still have NO "make" command. Anybody?
[06:35] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, Healot was talking to you about having other programs open that use apt-get, like synaptic or kpackage or whatever.
[06:35] <shawn_aurora> Question: When starting gnome with breezy OR dapper, it hangs
[06:36] <shawn_aurora> what can be the cause of this?
[06:36] <s|k> crimsun, do I have to reboot first?
[06:36] <lakcaj> rein, apt-get install build-essential
[06:36] <Healot> yes...
[06:36] <shawn_aurora> it shows an error: update-notifier tray_icon_init
[06:36] <rein> thank you
[06:36] <s|k> I'm rebooting
[06:36] <crouchingMonkey> i closed synaptic and i still have an error lakcaj
[06:36] <Healot> take a look... are you running those proggies? and trying to apt-get  something at the same moment?
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> Is there any chance it will be possible to install Ubuntu from a downloaded ISO somewhere on the hard drive at some point?
[06:36] <crouchingMonkey> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[06:37] <sudharsh> tonyyarusso: like redhat hd install?
[06:37] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, mplayer-586
[06:37] <Healot> it's mplayer-586 on the universe section...
[06:37] <lakcaj> rein, if you are compiling graphical apps, a nice meta-package is x-window-system-dev
[06:37] <Healot> tonyyarusso, yes, you can install from ISO images...
[06:37] <Healot> just load up the CD and select ISO install...
[06:38] <Healot> or use the boot image... I guess?
[06:38] <rein> thank you again.
[06:38] <crouchingMonkey> darn E: Package mplayer-586 has no installation candidate
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> Healot: Wait, what?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> Healot: I definitely didn't follow that, and I was told before you couldn't.
[06:39] <Healot> no, you can...
[06:39] <s|k> crimsun, still no sound
[06:39] <s|k> :(
[06:39] <Healot> when you;re on the install stage, you can select those udeb installers, one of them is the udeb ISO installer
[06:39] <crimsun> s|k: cat /proc/asound/version
[06:40] <s|k> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.11rc3.
[06:40] <s|k> Compiled on Mar  4 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-10-386.
[06:40] <s|k> crimson ^^
[06:40] <Healot> s|k, try to 'ls -l /dev/dsp'
[06:40] <crimsun> s|k: and amixer output to pastebin
[06:40] <joelbryan> Healot: is it possible now to add .ISO files from repository?
[06:40] <Healot> checkout that udeb installer stage... well in expert mode...
[06:40] <s|k> crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2006-03-04 22:38 /dev/dsp
[06:41] <[nige] > cheers for that
[06:41] <Healot> yes you can... just load the ISO image... using mount -o loopback <iso image filename>
[06:41] <nrdb> I am trying to run 'uisp' the avr micro programmer I am getting an error message "/dev/parport0: No such file or directory" I don't have any parport0 in my devs directory! how would I create one?
[06:41] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, if you have no mplayer-586, then you haven't added to multiverse repo, or if you did that, then you haven't done a successful apt-get update
[06:41] <odat> HELP grub nor lilo are able to figure out how to use two ata drives
[06:41] <lakcaj> s/to/the
[06:41] <s|k> crimsun & Healot: http://pastebin.com/584582
[06:42] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, if you are getting the lock file error, then reboot and try again
[06:42] <crouchingMonkey> lakcaj, is there a way to make sure i have the multiverse enabled ?
[06:42] <Healot> i think i 8880 need the driver from Realtek...
[06:42] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, do you know how to add repos?
[06:42] <Healot> because it;s fairly new...
[06:42] <crimsun> s|k: um, your 'Front' is muted and set to volume 0
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> Healot: What install stage, what udeb installers are we referring to?  I'm talking if I have an empty partition, can I download something onto one of the partitions currently in use, and do something like "take this file, pretend you were booting from it, and use it to install over there".
[06:42] <s|k> er
[06:42] <crouchingMonkey> brb lemme do a restart maybe that will help
[06:42] <s|k> no volume is up and not muted
[06:42] <lakcaj> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:42] <GTswagger> Is it OK to request the Digging of a story in this channel?
[06:42] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, ^^^ add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:42] <crimsun> s|k: no, your 'Front' is very much muted and set to 0
[06:43] <Healot> tonyyarusso, you supposed to select the advanced "linux expert"
[06:43] <s|k> how do I unmute it crimsun ?
[06:43] <crimsun> s|k: amixer sset 'Front' on
[06:43] <s|k> okay
[06:43] <Healot> entering <enter> or linux will get you the basic default install...
[06:43] <crimsun> s|k: then, amixer sset 'Front',0 60
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> Healot: So this assumes I have some Ubuntu disk to use to boot from, even if I don't actually intend to install what's on it.
[06:43] <Healot> when prompted "boot: ", type "linux expert"
[06:44] <s|k> crimsun I have sound :D
[06:44] <Healot> tonyyarusso, then just mount the ISO image, mount -o loopback <iso file name>
[06:44] <s|k> thanks crimsun & Healot
[06:44] <s|k> <3
[06:44] <crimsun> s|k: now change your volume control to adjust the 'Front' element
[06:44] <Healot> yeah, how the hell to load ISO image in linux, I forget :)
[06:44] <s|k> okay
[06:44] <crimsun> s|k: right click the volume icon, choose preferences, and select 'Front' from the list
[06:44] <s|k> crimsun, I have a USB headset, will that work now too?
[06:45] <s|k> crimsun,  okay
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> Healot: Any way to do it without using the disk to boot from, or is that the only way in?
[06:45] <crimsun> s|k: your usb headset has worked. Select it in System> Preferences> Sound> Default sound card
[06:45] <s|k> okay
[06:46] <Healot> tonyyarusso, you can't boot the ISO alone... you either burn it on CD, or use CD installer and load the udeb ISO installer
[06:46] <s|k> I unplugged the USB headset and have heard sound from the speakers
[06:46] <thedohboy> Hey room
[06:46] <s|k> crimsun, it's not an option
[06:46] <Healot> or use boot floppy image, jsut choose which one that suits you best
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> Healot: All right.
[06:46] <s|k> oh do I have to plug it in first
[06:46] <crimsun> well, uh, yeah
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> Healot: So what is the loopback option?  I don't see it in the man.
[06:46] <GTswagger> Could the folks here registered on Digg do me a favor and give this story some Digg love?  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Awesome_Linux_Statistics_Program_LiSt
[06:46] <s|k> YAY
[06:46] <s|k> :D
[06:47] <_epp> my when i close my ibook it sleeps but then like 5 seconds later it turns back on and it repeats this forever till i open it...  what can i do?
[06:47] <s|k> thanks crimsun  :)
[06:47] <crimsun> np
[06:47] <drakonan> hey, can i make a cd with a grub config on it to boot a hard disk image?
[06:47] <s|k> now to get my printer to stop printing in font size 3
[06:47] <Healot> ask the others hwo to load and ISO image, I really can't remember that
[06:47] <thedohboy> I'm having some trouble getting X to work... anyone up for lending a hand?
[06:47] <s|k> ubotu, printer
[06:47] <ubotu> well, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:47] <_epp> thedohboy, what kind of computer?
[06:48] <linux_user400354> thedohboy, did you try to reinstall ubuntu?
[06:48] <_epp> my when i close my ibook it sleeps but then like 5 seconds later it turns back on and it repeats this forever till i open it...  what can i do?
[06:49] <Healot> 'mount -t loopback <iso filename> <directory to mount>'
[06:49] <lakcaj> linux_user400354, reinstall is _not_ the first thing he should do
[06:49] <Healot> add sudo if you're not root yet
[06:49] <_epp> my when i close my ibook it sleeps but then like 5 seconds later it turns back on and it repeats this forever till i open it...  what can i do?
[06:49] <tired> This seems like a dumb question, but I've checked the help and I can't find a good answer.  In OO Calc, how can I give an entire column the same (relative) formula?  Isn't there a better way than dragging down to the very bottom of the (seemingly endless) spreadsheet?
[06:49] <crouchingMonkey> lakcaj, thank you everything worked out fine after the restart :)
[06:50] <tired> _epp: have you checked the system logs?
[06:50] <linux_user400354> thedohboy, you could let someone fix it with vnc or shh but vnc would be better because you would know what the person is doing
[06:50] <lakcaj> crouchingMonkey, and you have mplayer installed?
[06:50] <_epp> tired, no.
[06:50] <crouchingMonkey> yes lakcaj
[06:50] <tired> _epp: check the logs and see what's actually happening
[06:50] <lakcaj> great
[06:50] <_epp> how?
[06:50] <Iam8up> i just installed ubuntu on my laptop (again) and the wireless card doesn't seem to be working...it takes a long time to go from 'not active' to 'active'; the first time i installed ubuntu it went clean through and worked w/my WAP clean through - any ideas?
[06:50] <tired> Iam8up: same version, or a different one?
[06:50] <s|k> crimsun, the sound is really loud
[06:50] <tired> _epp: sudo less /var/log/messages; sudo less /var/log/kern.log
[06:50] <Iam8up> tired - ubuntu? same cd every time: 5.10
[06:51] <Healot> now you're hearing something, s|k
[06:51] <tired> Iam8up: I'd check the logs and see what it's really doing
[06:51] <s|k> I cant' turn it down
[06:51] <Iam8up> tired - logs?
[06:51] <lakcaj> thedohboy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:51] <thedohboy> I could try that linux_user, but I'm running in Windows
[06:51] <tired> Iam8up: /var/log/messages, /var/log/kern.log, etc
[06:51] <thedohboy> I haven't got networking set up yet either
[06:51] <lakcaj> thedohboy, if you don't know what to put, just press enter, the defaults are fairly sane
[06:52] <Iam8up> tired - can you help me out here? i've no idea what i'm looking for...
[06:52] <tired> Iam8up: do you know how to use a shell?
[06:52] <KentJonathan> i have a question i what folder is the X-chat because one friend he send a file in my dcc where i can see the file in what folder?
[06:52] <Iam8up> uhh...kinda...
[06:52] <_epp> tired, should i post them to you?
[06:52] <ming> Help: what package is for pthread library ?
[06:52] <Iam8up> what log am i looking for, though?
[06:52] <linux_user400354> thedohboy, do you have a dual boot?
[06:52] <tired> Iam8up: you need to do something like "sudo less /var/log/messages" and page up and down until you find the point where it's sleeping and waking up, and see what it says, maybe it says why it's waking up
[06:52] <Iam8up> i can move around, more/less, etc - just don't know what i'm lookin for
[06:52] <thedohboy> i tried that, but it seems not to recognise my video card
[06:53] <lakcaj> thedohboy, what video card is it?
[06:53] <thedohboy> yes i dual boot linux_user
[06:53] <thedohboy> VIA/S3G Unichrome IGP
[06:53] <_epp> tired, i think that was meant for me.
[06:53] <Healot> I DUEL
[06:53] <Iam8up> tired - i can't find anything about it 'waking up'
[06:53] <KentJonathan> ?
[06:53] <s|k> crimson the sound controls don't seem to be doing anything
[06:53] <tired> _epp: actually it was for him too :)
[06:53] <tired> _epp: look through them and see if you can find it trying to use the network card
[06:54] <_epp> oh haha... but what about posting the logs?
[06:54] <s|k> I've selected front
[06:54] <tired> Iam8up: it might not say "waking up", but whatever it does after it sleeps must be it waking up
[06:54] <_epp> yeah it says something about eth0 waking
[06:54] <holycow> does anyone know of a decent font viewer app? fontpage is okay but i cant select the dir with my fonts in it
[06:54] <linux_user400354> thedohboy, have you put your xorg.conf on a paste website for others to see it and find the problem?
[06:54] <tired> _epp: well, eth0 is wired LAN, not wireless, wlan0 is wireless
[06:54] <KentJonathan> please help me !!
[06:54] <_epp> tired, should i post the logs?
[06:54] <tired> KentJonathan: do you know about dot directories?
[06:55] <Iam8up> tired - eth0 is my wireless, for sure
[06:55] <s|k> ubotu, alsa
[06:55] <ubotu> hmm... alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[06:55] <tired> _epp: I don't want to grep through your whole log file, please look and see what it says when it sleeps, and afterwards...maybe it will give a clue as to why it's doing it
[06:55] <ming> how do I verify if pthread library is installed ? looks like I don't have it in my station..
[06:55] <Iam8up> tired - could i put this log on pastebin and have you take a look at it?
[06:55] <crouchingMonkey> KentJonathan go to your home folder
[06:55] <KentJonathan> ok
[06:55] <tired> Iam8up: eth0 is not supposed to be wireless, that's what wlan0 is for
[06:55] <Healot> KentJonathan, by default <if you do not change the x-chat setting yet>, it's /home/<username>/.xchat2/downloads
[06:55] <tired> Iam8up: I guess so
[06:55] <crouchingMonkey> and do a ctrl + h
[06:55] <tired> Iam8up: but I'm tired, remember? :)
[06:55] <asdfmn> Chromium owns :D
[06:56] <crouchingMonkey> you should see the hidden folders
[06:56] <KentJonathan> i have another question X-chat he dont have proteccion?
[06:56] <crouchingMonkey> look for the .xchat folder
[06:56] <Healot> .xchat2... it's hidden by default... vshow hidden dirs/files in File Manager
[06:56] <sirmikester> does anyone know anything about exim4?
[06:56] <crouchingMonkey> KentJonathan, what do you mean by protection
[06:57] <KentJonathan> yes if you flood in this channel at this moment i will kicked
[06:57] <_epp> tired, meet me in epppaste so i can show you the sleep part.
[06:58] <crimsun> s|k: are you using alsamixer to control 'Front'?
[06:58] <tired> _epp: use this please: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[06:58] <s|k> crimsun, it looks as if I have all the volume muted where ever I look
[06:58] <s|k> in alsamixer
[06:58] <crouchingMonkey> im guessing xchat has some kind of protection, pretty sure most IRC clients have some form of flood protection
[06:58] <Healot> wow
[06:58] <s|k> it's all musted
[06:58] <s|k> but the sound is still very loud crimsun, and choppy
[06:59] <s|k> muted*
[06:59] <crimsun> s|k: did you scroll all the way to the right?
[06:59] <Iam8up> tired - could all of this ipv6 be the problem?
[06:59] <s|k> yes crimsun
[06:59] <tired> Iam8up: I don't know, but from what little I know and have seen, I doubt it
[07:00] <KentJonathan> but he dont have proteccions?
[07:00] <Iam8up> tired - now both my ethernet cards (plugged in) aren't working...
[07:00] <tired> Iam8up: use that pastebin and show me the relevant parts of your log
[07:00] <sirmikester> Hi, newb question here... how do I setup exim to work from my debian workstation, so that i can send emails to a webmail account when cron jobs and other events occur on my system?
[07:00] <crimsun> s|k: pastebin amixer -c0
[07:00] <Healot> dpkg-reconfigure exim4?
[07:00] <tired> sirmikester: have you checked /usr/share/doc/exim?
[07:00] <Iam8up> tired - laptop doesn't seem to like networking...three nic cards, not one of them are connecting to the network...
[07:01] <Iam8up> everything works just fine in windows, however
[07:01] <_epp> tired, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/584593.
[07:01] <Healot> sure...
[07:01] <sirmikester> tired: have tried to configure, not sure what i have to input for my smtp settings
[07:01] <tired> Iam8up: has anything changed since it used to work?
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> How do I make the Nautilus "Send to" function integrate with Gaim and Thunderbird too, instead of just Evolution?
[07:01] <drakonan> was up
[07:01] <Philip> can someone help me with Xming+ubuntu+XP.  I got Xming(XServer) to work from my XP Laptop to my Ubuntu server with XDMCP. This is working great. But when doing the same from my XP desktop to the same ubuntu server I get passed the Ubuntu login screen and then it just hangs with for 10 minutes and then returns to the login screen. Any ideas?
[07:01] <tired> sirmikester: I don't know the answer, so all I can do is point you to the docs, sorry
[07:01] <sirmikester> tired: thx anyway
[07:01] <tired> sirmikester: google for exim smtp maybe
[07:01] <Iam8up> tired - can't think of a thing, i believe i did setup identically - the first time i installed ubuntu it worked, the 2/3/4 times it hasn't
[07:02] <tired> Iam8up: strange...show me your logs if you want, otherwise I don't know what else to do
[07:02] <s|k> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/584594
[07:02] <Iam8up> tired - lemme boot the thing up into windows, and i can do it from there
[07:02] <tired> _epp: try disabling the network card and then see if it stays asleep
[07:02] <_epp> ok
[07:03] <tired> Iam8up: you realize of course that stock Windows can't read the Linux partitions, right?
[07:03] <Iam8up> tired - yes, it can..
[07:03] <Healot> you can disable Wake-On-Ring feature on your BIOS
[07:03] <tired> Iam8up: you installed an ext driver?
[07:03] <Iam8up> tired - http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[07:03] <tired> Iam8up: ok
[07:03] <crimsun> s|k: then you have some quirk, like I stated, and it needs to be hard-coded into the driver based on your motherboard model
[07:03] <tired> Iam8up: I said "stock", meaning unmodified :)
[07:03] <s|k> crimsun, how do I do that?
[07:04] <s|k> :/
[07:04] <s|k> I can't have good sound?
[07:04] <Iam8up> tired - i know, i look really damned noob =(
[07:05] <Healot> NO, s|k , hehe
[07:05] <tired> Iam8up: you're probably just tired of trying to get it to work, like me :)
[07:05] <crimsun> s|k: you can always use pcm softvol. Read the alsa-lib documentation for assistance there.
[07:05] <Iam8up> tired - well..i just hate how it worked the first time with NO hassle, and now it just does NOT want to work
[07:06] <s|k> crimson, it actually works nicely with my regular speakers
[07:06] <tired> Iam8up: are you SURE it's the same version?  I know that when I installed a later kernel, using the same version of Ubuntu "still breezy", it affected my hard disk in the boot process
[07:06] <iG-Shoot-Me> How long does a shipit take?
[07:06] <s|k> crimsun, it's just the USB headset that it's not linking crimsun
[07:06] <tired> Iam8up: if you can, try an older kernel version
[07:06] <Iam8up> tired - well..the first i installed ubuntu, it worked, then used the gnome update thing to update the kernal
[07:06] <j1> hello
[07:06] <Iam8up> every install has been from the same cd, though
[07:06] <j1> hello
[07:06] <_epp> tired, nope, still wakes up.
[07:06] <iG-Shoot-Me> hi
[07:06] <iG-Shoot-Me> How long does a ship it take
[07:06] <iG-Shoot-Me> ?
[07:06] <j1> hello shoot me
[07:06] <crimsun> s|k: what about your usb headset?
[07:06] <Iam8up> i don't remember ipv6 from the other installations - it's confusing my logic =/
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> iG-Shoot-Me: I think it says some stuff about that on the site, probably 6-8 weeks like everything else.
[07:07] <G0SUB> iG-Shoot-Me 4-6 weeks
[07:07] <j1> no wait, don't shoot me
[07:07] <tired> Iam8up: occasionally something gets broken in newer kernels, and you have to file a bug so they'll fix it, but even then they won't fix it until the next MAJOR Ubuntu release, because only security fixes will go in, not even regression fixes :|
[07:07] <iG-Shoot-Me> I love that name j1
[07:07] <s|k> crimsun, that's when I can't seem to control the volume and get choppy sound
[07:07] <iG-Shoot-Me> Thats why i have it lol
[07:07] <iG-Shoot-Me> its like hey shoot me
[07:07] <j1> what name?
[07:07] <s|k> but with my regular speakers the sound works fine crimsun
[07:07] <iG-Shoot-Me> 4-6 weeks
[07:07] <iG-Shoot-Me> that sucks
[07:07] <tired> _epp: well, it does say "WakeOnLan disabled", but you might still check the BIOS.  BTW, what file was that log from?
[07:07] <_epp> messages
[07:07] <tired> _epp: check kern.log, might have more detail
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> iG-Shoot-Me: Well, it is free and all...
[07:07] <_epp> ok
[07:07] <G0SUB> Iam8up you say that you updated from the CD?
[07:08] <iG-Shoot-Me> tony: I know, but
[07:08] <_epp> tired, where was it located?
[07:08] <tired> _epp: /var/log
[07:08] <G0SUB> Iam8up a newer CD or the same CD?
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> iG-Shoot-Me: It's still not fun for the impatient, but hey.
[07:08] <iG-Shoot-Me> I have like 1000s of disks and none of them work!
[07:08] <crimsun> s|k: your usb headset is device #2, or card #1. To control it, you need to use alsamixer -c1
[07:08] <s|k> oh
[07:08] <iG-Shoot-Me> I have a CD-RW and it wont let me erase a music file that came with the disk -.-`
[07:08] <iG-Shoot-Me> Pretty unbelievable there
[07:08] <mike323> I have a quick question
[07:08] <Iam8up> G0SUB - always installed from the same cd
[07:08] <crimsun> s|k: heh, I thought you meant your HDA wasn't working.
[07:08] <iG-Shoot-Me> And the others my drive isnt detecting as disks..
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> Pretty unbelievable
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> !!!!
[07:09] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, iG-Shoot-Me
[07:09] <mike323> Does ubuntu support dual monitors?
[07:09] <Iam8up> G0SUB - the first install (which worked right after installing) was then able to update the kernal via the internet
[07:09] <G0SUB> Iam8up I don't get it ... why would it get updates from the same old CD ?
[07:09] <s|k> crimsun, can I pick that with gnome or I have to use the terminal?
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> !
[07:09] <ubotu> iG-Shoot-Me: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:09] <G0SUB> Iam8up aah
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> !
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> lmao
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> !!
[07:09] <ubotu> iG-Shoot-Me: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> Bots pwn
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> o
[07:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> k
[07:10] <tired> Iam8up: definitely sounds like a kernel regression...see if you can find the latest kernel that still works, then check bugs filed against the one that doesn't; if no one has reported it, you could report the bug so it can be fixed in Dapper
[07:10] <crimsun> s|k: "pick"? What do you mean?
[07:10] <s|k> crimsun I have a graphical interface
[07:10] <s|k> or
[07:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> See you in 4-6 weeks when I get my disc and the install doesnt work :)
[07:10] <Iam8up> tired - ya, cause i know what the hell you just said..? =(
[07:10] <s|k> I could type alsamixer -c1 into the terminal
[07:10] <mike323> Does anyone know if ubuntu supports two monitors?
[07:10] <benplaut> what's all of yours favorite sites for backgrounds?
[07:10] <crimsun> s|k: no, I mean what do you want to pick
[07:10] <pratyush> hello can anybody help me why my machine not giving debian environement-I am using breedy badger 5.10
[07:10] <G0SUB> mike-w does
[07:10] <Shadyman> mike323: Sure does
[07:10] <benplaut> i'm getting tired of gnome-look
[07:10] <s|k> crimsun the headset?
[07:11] <G0SUB> pratyush I can :)
[07:11] <tired> Iam8up: the newer kernel got messed up, compared to the older one.  the Ubuntu folks need to know about it so they can fix it.
[07:11] <cafuego> benplaut: art.gnome.org?
[07:11] <pratyush> i mean my gnome is not coming....
[07:11] <mike323> Shadyman, how do I add support of a second monitor?
[07:11] <Shadyman> cafuego: Fuego!
[07:11] <crimsun> s|k: no. As in, do you want to pick the sound card you control, or do you want to pick the default sound card?
[07:11] <j1> hello
[07:11] <pratyush> only kde is coming
[07:11] <tired> benplaut: try kde-look.org (hehe ;)
[07:11] <Shadyman> mike323: Not sure the specifics.
[07:11] <j1> oh
[07:11] <_epp> tired, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/584596.
[07:11] <j1> hello
[07:11] <j1> hello
[07:11] <G0SUB> pratyush aah! just install ubuntu-dektop
[07:11] <pratyush> gosub: only kde is coming no gnome :((
[07:11] <mike323> shadyman: But you are positive that it does?
[07:11] <Shadyman> j1: Hi. Hi, and Hi.
[07:11] <Shadyman> mike323: 90%
[07:11] <iG-Shoot-Me> lol
[07:11] <Iam8up> tired - ok...
[07:11] <pratyush> gosub: gimme a sec i will check it...
[07:11] <G0SUB> pratyush I think you installed Kubuntu
[07:11] <s|k> crimsun, I'd rather like to pick the default sound card
[07:12] <G0SUB> pratyush it's G-Zero-SUB
[07:12] <pratyush> gosub: breedy badger 5.10
[07:12] <crimsun> s|k: System> Preferences> Sound> Default sound card
[07:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> lol
[07:12] <s|k> oh
[07:12] <s|k> thanks crimsun
[07:12] <G0SUB> pratyush is it Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[07:12] <hondadarrell> anyone know how to use the wine package from synaptic in dapper?
[07:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> can someone say my name please
[07:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> Shoot
[07:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> iG-Shoot-Me
[07:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> gahh
[07:12] <Shadyman> iG-Shoot-Me: Good job.
[07:12] <s|k> crimsun, how do I do the other option?
[07:12] <tired> _epp: sorry, all I can see is that it's IMMEDIATELY resuming after suspending.  I suggest you try posting on the forums, and if that doesn't help, report a bug.  you could also go ahead and search the bug tracker and see if it's already known
[07:13] <G0SUB> pratyush the CD from which you installed ... what was its colour?
[07:13] <s|k> crimson, how do pick the sound card I control
[07:13] <s|k> ?
[07:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> lol
[07:13] <crimsun> s|k: you'll probably still need to use alsamixer -c#, though double-clicking the volume control will allow you to change the ALSA device
[07:13] <_epp> ok...
[07:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> Shoot
[07:13] <pratyush> g0sub: i am using ubuntu breedy badger 5.10
[07:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> iG-Shoot-Me
[07:13] <G0SUB> pratyush the CD from which you installed ... what was its colour?
[07:13] <linux_user400354> a computer with the realvnc version for windows alows people without vncviewer to connect to the vncserver using a java applet in a webbrowser. how can the same thing be done in ubuntu?
[07:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> hmm
[07:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> damn
[07:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> Shoot
[07:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> iG-Shoot-Me
[07:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> <
[07:14] <iG-Shoot-Me> <a
[07:14] <mike323> Does anyone know what I need in order to expand my workspace onto a second monitor?
[07:14] <tired> mike323: I think you might need xinerama
[07:14] <pratyush> g0sub: just now my machine asked me the cd-rom for installing ubuntu-desktop
[07:14] <pratyush> g0sub: gimme a sec...
[07:15] <G0SUB> pratyush okay
[07:15] <mike323> tired: Ok, thanks, i'll go look around
[07:15] <asdfmn> I need to get amoraK working with Zsnes, I use Alsasink on amaroK helppp
[07:15] <G0SUB> basanta :)
[07:15] <mike323> tired: Perfect. Found it.
[07:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> oaa
[07:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> shoot
[07:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> me
[07:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> plea
[07:16] <tired> mike323: good luck, no experience with it myself
[07:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> se
[07:16] <mike323> tired: i'll figure it out
[07:16] <mike323> hopefully
[07:16] <KentJonathan> what audio player whe can accept the .mp3?
[07:16] <pratyush> g0sub: i installed ubuntu-desktop...I am logging out...
[07:17] <G0SUB> pratyush :)
[07:17] <pratyush> g0sub: be right back with  gnome look....
[07:17] <cafuego> !tell KentJonathan -about restrictedformats
[07:17] <s|k> crimsun, the sound is still pretty terrible even though I can turn it down
[07:17] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell KentJonathan about restrictedformats
[07:17] <Shadyman> cafuego: Nice call
[07:17] <s|k> I still can't mute it
[07:17] <s|k> with the usb headset
[07:18] <crimsun> s|k: pastebin amixer -c1
[07:18] <s|k> k
[07:19] <s|k> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/584604
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> Thast for the peashooter!
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> :P
[07:20] <crimsun> s|k: the top (first) line is missing
[07:20] <pratyush> g0sub: Thankyou now i am in gnome :D
[07:20] <G0SUB> pratyush you are welcome :)
[07:21] <s|k> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/584607
[07:21] <philipf> hello everyone. I would like to skill up C++ programming (I am C# and Java programmer). Two questions: 1) I see GCC is not installed on Ubuntu... I guess I just install GCC 4.0?    2) Which is a good editor for GCC programming aprart from VI & EMACS?
[07:21] <G0SUB> pratyush do come to #ubuntu-in .... I guess you are from India
[07:21] <pratyush> g0sub: But the problem is i am translator for Swecha-a Gnu/linux telugu operating system...
[07:21] <G0SUB> philipf apt-get install build-essential
[07:21] <pratyush> g0sub: for translating it i need ttf-telugu-font to be installed...
[07:21] <crimsun> s|k: amixer -c1 sset 'Speaker' off
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> How do I make the Nautilus "Send to" function integrate with Gaim and Thunderbird too, instead of just Evolution?
[07:21] <s|k> okay
[07:21] <G0SUB> philipf Emacs Rules! but you can try Anjuta
[07:22] <philipf> thanks g0sub, what is inside of build-essential?
[07:22] <G0SUB> pratyush apt-get-install ttf-indic-fonts
[07:22] <pratyush> g0sub: But to see the telug fonts i need to remove ttf-freefonts which removed ubuntu-desktop and xscreensaventoo :((
[07:22] <tritium> tonyyarusso: I'm not sure that you can do that yet
[07:22] <KentJonathan> E: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate
[07:22] <KentJonathan>  why this error?
[07:22] <s|k> crimsun, now I don't have any sound
[07:22] <G0SUB> philipf it's a meta-package and contains all the compilers , build tools etc.
[07:22] <s|k> from the USB
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> tritium: All right, but it was worth a try.
[07:22] <philipf> G0SUB  thanks I will check out Anjuta
[07:23] <tritium> tonyyarusso: definitely
[07:23] <crimsun> s|k: I thought that's what you wanted (you mentioned not being able to mute)
[07:23] <odat> HELP grub nor lilo are able to figure out how to use two ata drives
[07:23] <G0SUB> philipf awesome
[07:23] <philipf> what about eclipse for C++?
[07:23] <s|k> crimsun, the sound is very choppy
[07:23] <G0SUB> philipf quite good ...
[07:23] <crimsun> s|k: with the usb?
[07:23] <s|k> crimsun: yes, it cracks and cuts out
[07:23] <G0SUB> iG-Shoot-Me :)
[07:23] <iG-Shoot-Me> :)
[07:23] <crimsun> s|k: it's not plugged into a hub, is it?
[07:24] <s|k> no crimsun
[07:24] <philipf> g0sub thanks!
[07:24] <s|k> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13166  <--- sounds like this guy had the same problem
[07:24] <crimsun> s|k: then you'll have to search for the answer elsewhere
[07:24] <s|k> okay thank you
[07:24] <crimsun> s|k: there are usb sound issues, but it's a general usb subsystem issue
[07:24] <G0SUB> philipf :)
[07:24] <s|k> thanks for all your help crimsun :)
[07:25] <G0SUB> iG-Shoot-Me: Harken son of a Philistine for you will crash the king's best-loved chariot!
[07:26] <iG-Shoot-Me> Lmao
[07:26] <iG-Shoot-Me> I love this
[07:27] <iG-Shoot-Me> I have like 2 stacks of discs
[07:27] <iG-Shoot-Me> non working and non checked
[07:27] <iG-Shoot-Me> 200 bucks says none of them work
[07:28] <hondadarrell> anyone get wine to run on ubuntu from the universe?
[07:28] <iG-Shoot-Me> Red or white?
[07:28] <G0SUB> hondadarrell yes
[07:28] <iG-Shoot-Me> Ive gotten red whine..
[07:28] <mez> hI ya's does any one know how to get a lexmark 2300 printer happening
[07:28] <iG-Shoot-Me> Wine*
[07:28] <iG-Shoot-Me> Never white
[07:28] <KentJonathan> E: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate , why this error?
[07:29] <iG-Shoot-Me> !tell -mez Nothing ever works
[07:29] <iG-Shoot-Me> lol
[07:29] <Iam8up> tired - i think i installed ipv6 everything and i totally lack ipv4 - i'm gonna reinstall again and double check what i do in the network options
[07:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> lol
[07:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> iG-Shoot-Me
[07:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> :P
[07:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> a
[07:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> dsfj
[07:30] <Iam8up> i actually managed to get an ip address...shutting the device down and then back up
[07:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> Ping pong what is that?
[07:30] <Iam8up> but now i can only go by ip...the dns server isn't reachable
[07:30] <hondadarrell> g0sub, after you installed it, where do you go to, to run it?
[07:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> I never understood that
[07:30] <KentJonathan> ?
[07:30] <Iam8up> iG-Shoot-Me - stop spamming please
[07:30] <KentJonathan> help please !!
[07:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> Why am I always having these Ping Pongs
[07:30] <Iam8up> hondadarrell - run what?
[07:31] <G0SUB> hondadarrell just type wine <windows program> in the console
[07:31] <Iam8up> iG-Shoot-Me - you're probably using mirc, turn the option on to ignore them
[07:31] <hondadarrell> Iam8up, WINE.
[07:31] <Shadyman> iG-Shoot-Me: That's IRC, checking to see if your client is still there.
[07:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> I know how to turn them off, i just dont know what they mean?
[07:31] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, do you have the multiverse repo enebled?
[07:31] <Iam8up> hondadarrell - what about wine?
[07:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> Where else would my client be
[07:31] <KentJonathan> No
[07:32] <r0ckstarrrr> can anyone help me detect my mouse on ubuntu?
[07:32] <blAckEn3d> kemik, enable it
[07:32] <hondadarrell> Iam8up, I'm trying to figure out how to run a win prog in Wine.
[07:32] <Iam8up> oh
[07:32] <G0SUB> hondadarrell it's pretty straightforward
[07:32] <DJ_tobias> what is yacc?
[07:32] <G0SUB> DJ_tobias Yet Another Compiler Compiler
[07:33] <G0SUB> DJ_tobias it's a parser generator ... a compiler construction tool
[07:33] <DJ_tobias> G0SUB, where can i get it to install?
[07:33] <KentJonathan> where i can install multiverse repo enabled?
[07:33] <G0SUB> DJ_tobias apt-get install yacc
[07:33] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, open synaptic
[07:33] <DJ_tobias> G0SUB, tried that
[07:34] <KentJonathan> oh he dont open in my computer :(
[07:34] <DJ_tobias> E: Couldn't find package yacc
[07:34] <G0SUB> DJ_tobias oops, it's byacc
[07:34] <KentJonathan> i say her but never people can answer
[07:34] <DJ_tobias> k thanks G0SUB
[07:34] <tired> Iam8up: well, I suppose that's possible :)  what I know is that I often see ivp6 in my netstat list, even though it's actually a v4 connection
[07:34] <KentJonathan> always his open the program i am put key but he dont open the program
[07:34] <G0SUB> DJ_tobias it comes with build-essential
[07:34] <G0SUB> DJ_tobias just install that
[07:34] <Some-Person> how do i install the smartlink modem driver and dialup to the internet?
[07:35] <Iam8up> tired - hah!!! i just removed all the ipv6 related stuff in hosts, gave it a few seconds, and it's all back =)
[07:35] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, you have to give your password
[07:35] <DJ_tobias> G0SUB, build-essential is already installed.. weird
[07:35] <DJ_tobias> oh well
[07:35] <tired> Iam8up: you had entries in the hosts file?
[07:35] <Iam8up> i'm going to go plug my self into the wall, brb
[07:35] <DJ_tobias> hey does anybody play neverwinter nights?
[07:35] <KentJonathan> i give my password but he dont open the program
[07:35] <G0SUB> Some-Person get the drivers from smlink.com and follow the instructions
[07:35] <Iam8up> tired - the 127.0.0.1 , of course, and like...6 ipv6 things?
[07:35] <Iam8up> like..it tried to run a dns server on itself?
[07:35] <Some-Person> but, idk which one
[07:35] <tired> Iam8up: I've never actually looked at my hosts file, since I"ve never needed to change it...
[07:35] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, try from the terminal an report here the error if any: sudo synaptic
[07:36] <Some-Person> i need to set it up on ubuntu
[07:36] <Iam8up> i hate anything but 127 in there
[07:36] <KentJonathan> ?
[07:36] <KentJonathan> sudo synaptic
[07:36] <tired> well, I have "The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts"
[07:36] <tired> Iam8up: and it works fine
[07:36] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, write that in a terminal
[07:36] <KentJonathan> ok :)
[07:36] <KentJonathan> in root?
[07:37] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, no
[07:37] <blAckEn3d> regular user
[07:37] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$ sudo synaptic
[07:37] <KentJonathan> Password:
[07:37] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$
[07:37] <Iam8up> tired - nope...take that all back =(
[07:37] <KentJonathan> ?
[07:37] <Iam8up> i was SSH'd into my router...
[07:38] <tired> Iam8up: have you tried older kernels like I said?
[07:38] <Iam8up> tired - well..i can ping other machines on my network, could it still be the kernal?
[07:38] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, and it doesn't start?
[07:38] <KentJonathan> nop
[07:38] <tired> Iam8up: you can ping?  then what exactly is the problem?
[07:38] <Iam8up> no dns
[07:38] <Iam8up> and i have to restart the device for it to pull dhcp
[07:38] <tired> Iam8up: ...have you looked in /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:38] <Iam8up> i'm certain the wireless signal is adaquate, it's <20' from me
[07:39] <tired> Iam8up: if you can ping, it's obviously not a signal problem, or you wouldn't be able to do anything
[07:39] <Iam8up> i meant the whole DHCP on restarting the device..thing...
[07:39] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, do a: pa aux | grep synaptic
[07:39] <Iam8up> like i wasn't getting a decent signal on boot...
[07:39] <tired> again... /etc/network/interfaces
[07:40] <KentJonathan> where in terminal?
[07:40] <G0SUB> KentJonathan Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[07:41] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, just paste this in the terminal: ps aux | grep synaptic
[07:41] <Some-Person> ugh, kentjonathan, i don't even have linux installed, yet i've used terminal
[07:41] <Some-Person> i've never used linux as installed
[07:41] <KentJonathan> ok
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[07:41] <Some-Person> only a livecd
[07:41] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$ ps aux | grep synaptic
[07:41] <KentJonathan> 1000      4920  0.0  0.4   1620   500 pts/1    S+   22:41   0:00 grep synaptic
[07:42] <G0SUB> KentJonathan why are you doing that?
[07:42] <blAckEn3d> err
[07:42] <blAckEn3d> G0SUB, he can't launch synaptic
[07:42] <G0SUB> oh!
[07:42] <blAckEn3d> no errors as far as he is saying
[07:42] <blAckEn3d> i thought there was anothe synaptic up
[07:43] <Some-Person> next week, i will finally install ubuntu (when i have time)
[07:43] <G0SUB> KentJonathan System > Administration > Synaptic ?
[07:43] <coheed> hi...
[07:43] <Iam8up> tired - uhm..i can't get outside of the network to paste that, how do i add a gateway to the device?
[07:43] <Some-Person> now, what program can i use as a dialer for ubuntu?
[07:43] <KentJonathan> blAckEn3d ?
[07:44] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, yes?
[07:44] <tired> Iam8up: /etc/network/interfaces, add "gateway x.x.x.x" at the bottom, probably
[07:44] <tired> Iam8up: really, you can do that through the GUI tools too, and you should, probbly
[07:44] <KentJonathan> what is the error :(
[07:44] <coheed> I get SIOCSIFADDR: No such device when I run ifup eth1
[07:44] <tired> Iam8up: GNOME or KDE?
[07:44] <coheed> help
[07:44] <coheed> !!!!!!
[07:44] <ubotu> coheed: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:45] <G0SUB> coheed ask ... we'll help
[07:45] <Iam8up> tired - gnome
[07:45] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, there is no error... I can't understand why your synaptic won't start
[07:45] <tired> Iam8up: well, System->Network, something like that
[07:45] <KentJonathan> :( and never he dont open the synaptic :(
[07:45] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, i don't think it will help, but do this in a terminal: sudo killall -9 synaptic
[07:46] <linux_user400354> a computer with the realvnc version for windows alows people without vncviewer to connect to the vncserver using a java applet in a webbrowser. how can the same thing be done in ubuntu?
[07:46] <Some-Person> what program can i use as a dialer for ubuntu?
[07:46] <tired> linux_user400354: apt-cache search vnc java might help
[07:46] <Some-Person> i have dialup internet
[07:46] <Iam8up> tired - now it works...just fine...once i move everything to static...
[07:46] <KentJonathan> sudo killall -9 synaptic
[07:47] <KentJonathan> and now?
[07:47] <tired> Iam8up: you just need to set it to run DHCP when starting the interface, probably
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> linux_user400354,  thers some java-vnc packages you can install.
[07:47] <raymond__> could someone help me setup ubuntu to install things again
[07:47] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, try this again in the term: sudo synaptic
[07:47] <Iam8up> tired - can you help me do that?
[07:47] <tired> Iam8up: it should be in the GUI network options
[07:47] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, give _your_ password
[07:47] <Iam8up> tired - nothing that advanced in that =(
[07:48] <KentJonathan> sudo killall -9 synaptic
[07:48] <KentJonathan> ups
[07:48] <linux_user400354> im getting alot of errors from apt-cache that say couldnt stat source package list and then names all my repository websites what could be causing this?
[07:48] <tired> Iam8up: it's not an advanced setting, really...look a little deeper, it should be there
[07:48] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$ sudo synaptic
[07:48] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$
[07:48] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, it didn't ask for a password?
[07:48] <conrad_> i'm looking to install ubuntu on my g4, but I only have one hard drive + an external hard drive. i need to find a way to back up my OS X to my firewire hard drive so that it is bootable and recopyable to my main HD after installing... any sugguestions?
[07:48] <HymnToLife> linux_user400354> certainly the server you use is down
[07:48] <KentJonathan> no
[07:48] <FlannelKing> freenodes just having problems today, now isnt it?
[07:48] <HymnToLife> try pinging it
[07:48] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, that's kind of okay
[07:49] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, but nothing happens?
[07:49] <KentJonathan> no
[07:49] <KentJonathan> :S
[07:49] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, no errors on the terminal? when you type that does the cursor turn into a waiting cursor?
[07:50] <KentJonathan> no
[07:50] <Iam8up> conrad_ - start up the ubuntu installer, after the partition steps it'll ask about a bootloader (it uses grub) and if you're OS X isn't listed, then i wouldn't go any farther
[07:50] <werther> how does gnome decide if it wants to maximize a window of a prog I'm opening?
[07:50] <werther> emacs seems to be break when the wm maximizes it  :/
[07:50] <werther> initial-frame-alist didn't help :/
[07:51] <KentJonathan> :(
[07:51] <conrad_> Iam8up - i have to repartition no matter what to install though don't I? wouldn't that destroy all data
[07:51] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, sorry... i don't understand why your synaptic won't start
[07:52] <Iam8up> conrad_ - ya...did you make your OSX one big partition on your internal drive?
[07:52] <KentJonathan> :( :( :( :(
[07:52] <werther> nm, was an xrdb issue
[07:52] <conrad_> Iam8up - unfortunately i did
[07:52] <KentJonathan> i need to run the mp3 :(
[07:52] <HymnToLife> conrad_> can't GParted resize your existing partition ?
[07:52] <KentJonathan> but he dont service the synaptic
[07:53] <conrad_> HymnToLife: i'm not familiar with Gparted at all
[07:53] <KentJonathan> blackEn3d !!
[07:53] <HymnToLife> conrad_> well, just run it from a Live CD
[07:53] <KentJonathan> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[07:53] <KentJonathan> he will open the window of Sypnotic
[07:53] <HymnToLife> and see it it can resize your OSX partition
[07:54] <HymnToLife> since it can resze NTFS, I think it can resize HFS too
[07:54] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, so, the synaptic window appears?
[07:54] <KentJonathan> yes i put the key but he put this error
[07:54] <Iam8up> obviously dumb question...my trackpad is moving the pointer REALLY fast - i toned the sliders to the far left and it didn't change the speed of them, do i have to reboot/re-something?
[07:54] <KentJonathan> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[07:54] <willis_> Iam8up,  you mean a laptop touch pad?
[07:54] <coheed> ifup eth1 fails to load my realtek 8139d lan card... SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[07:54] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:54] <coheed> SIOCSIIFNETMASK: No such device
[07:54] <coheed> SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
[07:54] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:54] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:54] <coheed> Failed to bring up eth1
[07:54] <Iam8up> willis_ - touchpad, sorry
[07:54] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> try with gksudo instead
[07:54] <conrad_> my current hard drive is set up as a journaled partition
[07:55] <KentJonathan> ok
[07:55] <KentJonathan> in terminal ?
[07:55] <HymnToLife> yes
[07:55] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$ gksudo instead
[07:55] <KentJonathan> (gksudo:5185): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:55] <coheed> ???
[07:55] <HymnToLife> conrad_> jut try GParted
[07:56] <HymnToLife> it has worked for everything I've tried it on
[07:56] <conrad_> HymnToLife: i'd use that through unix on the live cd then?
[07:56] <HymnToLife> ys
[07:56] <conrad_> k
[07:56] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> lmao, I meant gksudo synaptic
[07:56] <conrad_> i'll look through man pages and whatnot thanks
[07:56] <coheed> help
[07:56] <coheed> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[07:56] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:56] <coheed> SIOCSIIFNETMASK: No such device
[07:56] <coheed> SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
[07:56] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:56] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:56] <coheed> Failed to bring up eth1
[07:57] <coheed> ifup eth1
[07:57] <coheed> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[07:57] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:57] <coheed> SIOCSIIFNETMASK: No such device
[07:57] <coheed> SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
[07:57] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:57] <coheed> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[07:57] <coheed> Failed to bring up eth1
[07:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> coheed: Stop - use pastebin instead.
[07:57] <benplaut> !ops
[07:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !pastebin
[07:57] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[07:57] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[07:57] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$ gksudo synaptic
[07:57] <KentJonathan> (gksudo:5243): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:57] <KentJonathan> :(
[07:57] <benplaut> bah... n/m
[07:57] <blAckEn3d> coheed, do you have the module loaded?
[07:58] <AngryElf> Does anybody know of a really good how-to on how to compile, specifically configuring a new kernel???????
[07:58] <coheed> yes
[07:58] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, open a _new terminal_
[07:58] <KentJonathan> ok
[07:58] <KentJonathan> closed the another terminal?
[07:58] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, yes
[07:58] <coheed> the module name is 8139too
[07:58] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, and then paste this in tyhe new one: gksudo instead
[07:59] <HymnToLife> lmao blAckEn3d
[07:59] <coheed> I tried with the 8139cp and it doen't work either
[07:59] <HymnToLife> it's _not_ funny
[07:59] <s|k> ubotu, printer
[07:59] <ubotu> I heard printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[07:59] <rixth> Okay, how do I map keys to commands?
[07:59] <rixth> I just got a fancy MS wireless keyboard.
[07:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rixth: System -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[08:00] <blAckEn3d> HymnToLife, wrong paste, dude, chill
[08:00] <rixth> PuMpErNiCkLe, I know that. It doesn't recognize all keys though.
[08:00] <HymnToLife> lol
[08:00] <blAckEn3d> coheed, dmesg and look for your eth card
[08:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rixth: Then there's also Applications -> System tools -> configuration editor -> apps -> metacity
[08:00] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$ gksudo instead
[08:00] <KentJonathan> jonathankent is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:01] <HymnToLife> okI think we're done
[08:01] <blAckEn3d> HymnToLife, true :P
[08:01] <rixth> PuMpErNiCkLe, how do I know what to put in the fields?
[08:02] <HymnToLife> but the thing is
[08:02] <HymnToLife> how can he edit the sudoers file if he can't run commands as root ?
[08:03] <KentJonathan> ?
[08:03] <Jonnny2> boot into recovery mode
[08:03] <Jonnny2> it will be root
[08:03] <odat> anyone able to help with grub
[08:03] <KentJonathan> HymmToLife say to me?
[08:03] <blAckEn3d> livecd, or at boot time, he has to pass init=/bin/bash
[08:03] <blAckEn3d> :P
[08:03] <HymnToLife> yeah or from a live CD
[08:03] <benplaut> odat: ask your question, and maybe :)
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rixth: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039&highlight=metacity+key+codes has very detailed documentation - much more than my experience
[08:03] <odat> i keep getting a grub 2 error
[08:03] <KentJonathan> blAckEn3d what happen :S
[08:03] <coheed> i have a board with 2 lan card, one is onboard and the other is a pci card
[08:03] <rixth> Cool, thanks, PuMpErNiCkLe
[08:03] <odat> neither grub or lilo seems to be able to boot the drive
[08:04] <benplaut> hmm
[08:04] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, you don't have the permission tu run that program
[08:04] <odat> they are both ata drives
[08:04] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, is this the only user you have?
[08:04] <benplaut> first time installing, and has it ever worked before?
[08:04] <KentJonathan> i am configure the user in the install of ubuntu
[08:05] <coheed> when i do lspci i get the network card, but said:
[08:05] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, did you change anything?
[08:05] <odat> benplaut, first time installing  hasn't worked yet
[08:05] <KentJonathan> of what?
[08:05] <benplaut> odat: ahh
[08:05] <coheed> 0000:00:09.0 ethernet controler: unknow
[08:05] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, user management
[08:05] <benplaut> odat: both grub and suse have the same error?
[08:06] <KentJonathan> no i think =/
[08:06] <coheed> 0000:00:09.0 ethernet controler: unknow device 1904:8139
[08:06] <benplaut> err
[08:06] <benplaut> ubuntu and suse
[08:06] <blAckEn3d> coheed, try looking in your dmesg for your ethernet card...
[08:06] <KentJonathan> why JonathanKent is not a management?
[08:06] <blAckEn3d> coheed, after that make sure that system resources are okay in BIOS
[08:07] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, if that user is the one you created during installation it musb be in the sudoers list
[08:07] <dabaR> unless he removes him, or something like that
[08:07] <odat> benplaut, whats suse have to do with it?
[08:07] <KentJonathan> he dont open the progam because is not manager?
[08:08] <blAckEn3d> KentJonathan, smth like that
[08:08] <KentJonathan> ?
[08:08] <KentJonathan> what is smth ?
[08:08] <coheed> i dont see the card in dmesg
[08:08] <dabaR> something like that
[08:08] <benplaut> odat: if it doesn't work with either, then it might be a more general probelm with your specific computer. If it's not distro specific, it's easier to find answers
[08:08] <KentJonathan> and jonathan is not a manger?
[08:08] <Installer36> Looking for a good weather reporter
[08:09] <blAckEn3d> coheed, err... are you sure you second eth card -- te pci one is set up okay?
[08:09] <coheed> mmm.. let me see..
[08:09] <KentJonathan> because i need to install a programs :(
[08:09] <coheed> how is OK?
[08:09] <A10n> hey guys, I want to install mysql on my ubuntu box, but when i do apt-get install mysql-common-4.1 it says its going to remove mysql-common
[08:10] <KentJonathan> Jonathankent is not a master? blAckEn3d?
[08:10] <blAckEn3d> coheed, do aa ifconfig
[08:10] <dabaR> KentJonathan: you need to restart your cvomputer, hit escape, boot into recovery mode, and run "adduser jonathankent admin" then reboot
[08:10] <blAckEn3d> coheed, but i don't think it will help
[08:10] <raymond8066> what do i need to do to install things
[08:10] <coheed> I have configured it /etc/network/interfaces but ifup eth1 fails
[08:11] <KentJonathan> i need to install 0 % ubuntu?
[08:11] <dabaR> raymond8066: synaptic
[08:11] <raymond8066> i dont have it set up
[08:11] <raymond8066> i just renstalled linux
[08:11] <blAckEn3d> coheed, err... but the on-board eth is working fine right?
[08:11] <dabaR> raymond8066: http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[08:11] <KentJonathan> dabar i need yo have the CD of ubuntu?
[08:12] <dabaR> KentJonathan: no, just do what i said
[08:12] <coheed> yeah
[08:12] <Jonnny2> dabar, but will that edit the sudoers as well
[08:12] <Jonnny2> otherwise he must run visudo
[08:12] <KentJonathan> ok i am return
[08:12] <Jonnny2> to correct sudoers
[08:12] <coheed> I think there is a problem with the hotplug
[08:12] <blAckEn3d> coheed, try disabling it in BIOS an see if the pci one works
[08:12] <dabaR> Jonnny2: no, but sudoers should be set up so anyone in admin group can sudo
[08:13] <Jonnny2> yes unless he tried to edit it
[08:14] <coheed> i have a xcell2000
[08:14] <blAckEn3d> never heard of it
[08:15] <odat> this sucks
[08:15] <dabaR> sure does
[08:16] <dabaR> it's really better than nothing
[08:16] <dabaR> therefore it is the worst
[08:16] <ubuntu> hi
[08:16] <ubuntu> hi
[08:16] <dabaR> hi
[08:16] <ubuntu> www.apple.com
[08:16] <dabaR> split persona>
[08:16] <cppnewbie> ...
[08:16] <ubuntu> i'm switching names
[08:17] <ubuntu> not really its by default
[08:17] <dabaR> right, live cd...
[08:17] <ubuntu> yes
[08:17] <dabaR> ;)
[08:18] <Frankenstein{o}> i installed the "Server" typed sudo get-ap install openssh-server and i got errors to run somthing and it failed to
[08:18] <linuxatebill> ok
[08:18] <Frankenstein{o}> what gives
[08:18] <jhon> Hello to all!!
[08:18] <Frankenstein{o}> ello
[08:18] <jhon> someone can help me ?
[08:18] <Frankenstein{o}> iono
[08:18] <jhon> i got a little problem with ubuntu network
[08:18] <dabaR> Frankenstein{o}: we would need to see the errors on paste.ubuntu-nl.org, or #flood for me preferably
[08:18] <s|k> finally everything is working
[08:18] <s|k> :)
[08:18] <s|k> well
[08:19] <s|k> haven't tried the scanner yet
[08:19] <dabaR> s|k: good work
[08:19] <jhon> ??
[08:19] <jhon> please!!
[08:19] <dabaR> s|k: crimsun got the sound
[08:19] <dabaR> !helpme
[08:19] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:19] <s|k> dabaR, yep
[08:19] <HymnToLife> better late than never, s|k :p
[08:19] <s|k> indeed :)
[08:19] <dabaR> s|k: never fails...:)
[08:19] <s|k> took about 24 hours tbh
[08:19] <dabaR> that is short.
[08:19] <Frankenstein{o}> cant... computer hdd is fried and i cant copy text from a pc with ubuntu basic installed and thats it!
[08:19] <s|k> I almost gave up when I couldn't install the nvidia driver and X was crashing and failing all over the place
[08:19] <coheed> i think the problem is not in the bios... beacuse when i installing win xp everything work ok..
[08:19] <dabaR> now it is a system...gotta remember that. It is a real system
[08:19] <cppnewbie> everyone, while im typing in the console if i ex. press backspace when its not needed while in the console i get a beep. is there a way to disable the beep?
[08:19] <linuxatebill> why i sthe packe mngr taking so long??
[08:20] <linuxatebill> i'm new to 5.10
[08:20] <dabaR> cppnewbie: sudo aptitude install screen && screen
[08:20] <dabaR> linuxatebill: it is taking what so long?
[08:20] <jhon> ok, I configure Samba to share betwen Ubuntu and XP-SP2, Ubuntu can open a Share folder in Windows, but Windows can`t open Ubuntu shared folder, in fact the same Ubuntu can`t open the shared folder, ask me for Password and try with my login password but doesnt work
[08:20] <s|k> everyone here is so helpful
[08:20] <s|k> what a great community :)
[08:20] <cppnewbie> what does that do dabaR ?:S
[08:21] <dabaR> Frankenstein{o}: well, I can not know what is wrong without seeing the errors.
[08:21] <linuxatebill> the packes comming in
[08:21] <HymnToLife> jhon> sudo smbpasswd -a username
[08:21] <cppnewbie> ah thanx
[08:21] <dabaR> s|k: meh:)
[08:21] <cppnewbie> now i noticed that it doesnt happen :D
[08:21] <linuxatebill> does x chat support ver?
[08:21] <Madpilot> linuxatebill, try a different Ubuntu mirror, maybe?
[08:21] <dabaR> cppnewbie: does your screen flash a little?
[08:21] <linuxatebill> ok
[08:22] <jhon> GREAT!!!
[08:22] <blAckEn3d> coheed, do a ifconfig and paste it on pastebin
[08:22] <jhon> IT WORKS!!
[08:22] <s|k> where does xchat hide the logs?
[08:22] <coheed> blacken3d: i think the problem is not in the bios... beacuse when i installing win xp everything work ok..
[08:22] <linuxatebill> ubuntu doesn't includ ethat new jappness game
[08:22] <s|k> anyone know?
[08:22] <dabaR> jhon: nice
[08:22] <HymnToLife> course it works ;)
[08:22] <linuxatebill> xp ewww
[08:22] <dabaR> s|k: /var/log? i dont use it
[08:22] <jhon> but, one question, Why !! or Where can I find i need to do that ?
[08:22] <cppnewbie> not really dabaR
[08:22] <coheed> ok..
[08:22] <Iam8up> can anyone tell me how to mount a cd?
[08:22] <Madpilot> s|k, probably somewhere in .xchat2 in your home dir
[08:22] <HymnToLife> jhon > on the wiki page about Samba
[08:22] <coheed> but im in a xp workstation... im gonna copy
[08:22] <dabaR> cppnewbie: well, screen is the bestr thing since slced bread...
[08:22] <coheed> jeje
[08:22] <s|k> thanks Madpilot
[08:23] <cppnewbie> lol
[08:23] <linuxatebill> don't even waste your time with a windows os
[08:23] <jhon> ok, Thak you Very Much to All!! see ya!
[08:23] <jhon> Bye
[08:23] <Iam8up> coheed - you want to use smbclient
[08:23] <Madpilot> Iam8up, CDs should automount
[08:23] <Iam8up> Madpilot - in /cdrom?
[08:23] <HymnToLife> Iam8up> /media/cdrom by default
[08:23] <Madpilot> s|k, actually, not in .xchat2, I just checked
[08:24] <Iam8up> well /cdrom is symlinked to /media/cdrom
[08:24] <s|k> I'm still having trouble navigating through the file structure Madpilot
[08:24] <coheed> mm.. nop.. i just want to make a router in ubuntu
[08:24] <Madpilot> s|k, the root-owned stuff is a bit confusing, yeah
[08:24] <Iam8up> well..it asked me if i wanted to burn a cd, i hit cancel, and it shows theres no files in it
[08:24] <Iam8up> i just burnt a live distro - is it possible it can't read it or something?
[08:25] <dabaR> cppnewbie: no joke. "ctrl-a c" gives you another screen. "ctrl-a ctrl-a" gets you back to the first screen. "ctrl-a <number>" gives you screen <number>. ctrl-a
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> its a blank cd?  you sure it  burnt right?
[08:25] <HymnToLife> obviousle the burning failed...
[08:25] <Madpilot> s|k, nothing to do with finding XChat's logs, but have a look at this: http://www.secguru.com/files/linux_file_structure.jpg
[08:25] <s|k> thanks
[08:25] <blAckEn3d> i'm off
[08:25] <blAckEn3d> bye
[08:25] <coheed> i dont now is that is necesary to make that
[08:25] <Iam8up> hmmmm
[08:26] <Iam8up> i just updated, gotta restar - i'll see if it can boot
[08:26] <No1Viking> Why do I have so many dependency problems and how do I get rid of them?
[08:26] <dabaR> cppnewbie: "ctrl-a shift-a" lets you change the name of the screen. "ctrl+a \"" gives you a list of all the open screens.
[08:26] <HymnToLife> !tell No1Viking about repos
[08:26] <cppnewbie> k cool :D
[08:27] <dabaR> it is like sliced bread
[08:27] <coheed> alguien abla espaol aqui??
[08:27] <Madpilot> No1Viking, what're you trying to install?
[08:27] <Madpilot> !es
[08:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:27] <xapaho> help please! I'm lost my multi-distro /boot partition, and partially rebuilt it already -- now I just miss the kernel files from breezy, and I need to re-install grub too -- but I must preserve my / breezy partition. can I do that from breezy cd ?
[08:27] <coheed> ok!!!!
[08:27] <dabaR> xapaho: do you have other partitions?
[08:27] <aroticoz> AWSOME :D
[08:28] <xapaho> dabaR: yes, plenty ;)
[08:28] <Iam8up> gay ass cd fucked up
[08:28] <Madpilot> Iam8up, language, thanks
[08:28] <aroticoz> this is simply AWSOME
[08:28] <KentJonathan> dabaR  : root@ubuntu:~# adduser jonathankent admin
[08:28] <KentJonathan> adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[08:28] <KentJonathan> :(
[08:28] <Iam8up> homosexual buttocks cd flucked up
[08:28] <dabaR> KentJonathan: then do what the other guy said. "sudo visudo"
[08:28] <Iam8up> ...?
[08:29] <aroticoz> how can I fix my resolution ?
[08:29] <dabaR> aroticoz: you need to fixres
[08:29] <KentJonathan> but he dont put admin jonathankent
[08:29] <benplaut> Iam8up: stop spouting obscenities
[08:29] <dabaR> ubotu: tell aroticoz about fixres
[08:29] <HymnToLife> guees Madpilot didn't quite like your joke Iam8up :p
[08:29] <Iam8up> benplaut - i fixed that...
[08:29] <KentJonathan> dabaR  : root@ubuntu:~# adduser jonathankent admin
[08:29] <benplaut> Madpilot: bussiness has been good this past week, eh?
[08:29] <KentJonathan> but he dont put admin jonathankent
[08:29] <KentJonathan> ups
[08:29] <Iam8up> that wasn't a joke...he asked me to clean up the language...
[08:29] <KentJonathan> root@ubuntu:~# adduser jonathankent admin
[08:29] <KentJonathan> adduser: The group `admin' does not exist.
[08:29] <KentJonathan> this is the error
[08:29] <Iam8up> KentJonathan - groupadd admin
[08:29] <dabaR> KentJonathan: so run what i said
[08:30] <Madpilot> benplaut, it's been a long week. I've never found homophobia amusing, either.
[08:30] <dabaR> (:-/:-)
[08:30] <odat> how do i get grub to boot to a sda drive
[08:30] <KentJonathan> ok
[08:30] <benplaut> mm
[08:30] <Iam8up> Madpilot - i obvously meant gay as in it's queer, strange
[08:30] <dabaR> KentJonathan:
[08:30] <s|k> I cannot find these log files
[08:30] <KentJonathan> what happen?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> old-english terms
[08:31] <KentJonathan> han:
[08:31] <dabaR> add a line at the end. "jonathankent     ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[08:31] <KentJonathan> root@ubuntu:~# adduser jonathankent admin
[08:31] <KentJonathan> Adding user `jonathankent' to group `admin'...
[08:31] <KentJonathan> Done.
[08:31] <KentJonathan> i am put jonathankent admin an then?
[08:31] <KentJonathan> and then
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> egads what a long user name. :P
[08:32] <xapaho> odat: you have a map file that allows you to define which drive (eg /dev/hda6) matches each grub device (eg hd0,5)
[08:32] <dabaR> KentJonathan: you probably won't be able to sudo anyhow. try now, "sudo ls" and type in your password. if it lists, you are good.
[08:32] <dabaR> no, not now...sorry:)
[08:32] <KentJonathan> and then?
[08:32] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$ sudo ls
[08:32] <KentJonathan> Password:
[08:32] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$
[08:32] <KentJonathan> dabaR?
[08:33] <odat> xapaho, how do i find the map file?
[08:33] <HymnToLife> hmm
[08:33] <dabaR> You would have to reboot, or something. try "su jonathankent" password, and then run "cd;sudo ls" password
[08:33] <xapaho> dabaR: it's in /boot/grub, sorry I am far to be a wizard, forgot its name right now ;)
[08:33] <s|k> where is ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/ ?
[08:33] <s|k> what does ~ mean? :0
[08:33] <odat> xapaho, i am using a live cd right now i noticed that my ata drives are being recognized as sda1 and sdb1  and grub wont boot them
[08:33] <HymnToLife> ~ means your home folder
[08:34] <s|k> hrm
[08:34] <HymnToLife> so it's /home/user/.xchat2
[08:34] <No1Viking> Madpilot, look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9741
[08:34] <KentJonathan> dabar i dont understand :S
[08:34] <dabaR> s|k: it is the gui login, :0
[08:34] <s|k> I don't see it
[08:34] <s|k> maybe in the terminal I'll see it
[08:34] <HymnToLife> it's hidden
[08:34] <Madpilot> s|k, I don't think XChat logs by default - you have to enable logging in Settings->Prefs somewhere
[08:34] <dabaR> add a line at the end. "jonathankent     ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[08:34] <xapaho> odat: that's correct, but I don't know any issue with booting them -- you can define them in the map file
[08:34] <HymnToLife> in nautilus hit view > Hidden files
[08:34] <s|k> I have enabled it
[08:34] <dabaR> KentJonathan: then do what the other guy said. "sudo visudo"
[08:34] <KentJonathan> where?
[08:35] <KentJonathan> where put this line
[08:35] <Madpilot> s|k, http://xchat.org/faq/#q219
[08:35] <dabaR> that will open that file for you.
[08:35] <odat> xapaho, where is the map file?
[08:35] <KentJonathan> ok
[08:35] <odat> xapaho, and or how do i edit it
[08:35] <s|k> yeah I found them in the terminal
[08:35] <s|k> cool
[08:35] <Madpilot> s|k, ah, nevermind, you obviously found that
[08:35] <KentJonathan> and where save the file
[08:35] <s|k> but how do I found them using the file browser?
[08:35] <HymnToLife> s| > try Ctrl+L in nautilus
[08:35] <dabaR> s|k: ctrl-h
[08:35] <No1Viking> Madpilot, as you can see it will remove like everything
[08:35] <HymnToLife> it will show a location box
[08:35] <KentJonathan> jonathankent     ALL=(ALL) ALL <= i am put this text ?
[08:35] <s|k> ah it's hidden
[08:36] <s|k> :)
[08:36] <KentJonathan> in a text
[08:36] <dabaR> yes, into what opens with sudo visudo...go...
[08:36] <Madpilot> No1Viking, -f in the install line can do messy things - what are you trying to do, again?] 
[08:36] <xapaho> odat: I told u, it's in /boot/grub along with the menu.lst and the grub.conf, it's a text file, you can edit it with whatever you like.
[08:36] <dabaR> KentJonathan: stop pasting
[08:36] <KentJonathan> what ???
[08:36] <Madpilot> !paste
[08:36] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:36] <KentJonathan> jonathankent     ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:36] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[08:36] <dabaR> :-(
[08:37] <No1Viking> Madpilot, am trying to get rid of unmet dependencies
[08:37] <KentJonathan> jonathankent@ubuntu:~$ sudo visudo
[08:37] <KentJonathan> dont happen nothing :s
[08:37] <Madpilot> No1Viking, can you pastebin your sources.list for us?
[08:37] <KentJonathan> in root yes :)
[08:37] <HymnToLife> No1Viking> what exactly are you trying to install ?
[08:37] <No1Viking> Sure w8
[08:37] <KentJonathan> i am understand :)
[08:37] <Iam8up> ah ahha...bouncing cow!
[08:38] <s|k> okay, so what's some cool stuff I can do in linux that I can't do in windows :0
[08:38] <Madpilot> No1Viking, the only folks I've seen with odd apt-get results like yours had badly messed up sources.list files...
[08:38] <KentJonathan> dabar :
[08:38] <KentJonathan> # User privilege specification
[08:38] <KentJonathan> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:38] <KentJonathan> jonathankent  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:38] <Iam8up> s|k - lol..google..
[08:38] <dabaR> s|k: install _anything_
[08:38] <KentJonathan> is good that?
[08:38] <xapaho> any help pls about that install issue?
[08:38] <s|k> hehe
[08:38] <dabaR> KentJonathan: stop pasting
[08:38] <KentJonathan> :( ok
[08:38] <No1Viking> Madpilot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9742
[08:38] <aroticoz> am, after I download a .deb file how do I install it ?
[08:38] <KentJonathan> but dabaR is good that?
[08:38] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> > yep that should work
[08:38] <odat> xapaho, how do i get into it from a live cd?
[08:39] <dabaR> KentJonathan: ya, ctrl-x to exit, say "y" to save.
[08:39] <KentJonathan> and then dabaR?
[08:39] <KentJonathan> ok
[08:39] <dabaR> lol
[08:39] <xapaho> odat: which oe are u using?
[08:39] <aroticoz>  After I download a .deb file how do I install it ?
[08:39] <dabaR> Madpilot: funny:)
[08:39] <ron_> i really need help here if someone can... i'm getting kernel panics and i can't chroot the damn drive
[08:39] <dabaR> !deb
[08:39] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[08:39] <odat> xapaho, ubuntu live
[08:39] <aroticoz> thanks
[08:39] <dabaR> $20
[08:39] <Madpilot> No1Viking, try this sources.list, yours looks odd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666
[08:40] <KentJonathan> and then dabaR?
[08:40] <philbert> hello
[08:40] <Iam8up> is there any way to enable all the screen savers..?
[08:40] <dabaR> KentJonathan: reboot. you added yourself.
[08:40] <ron_> i never heard of /bin/bash no sudch file or directory from doing a chroot
[08:40] <Madpilot> dabaR, the away msg boot? It's op policy here - and amusing sometimes :P
[08:40] <No1Viking> OK, Madpilot, will do that
[08:40] <philbert> isnt there like a 6.10 version of ubuntu
[08:40] <xapaho> odat: never tried it -- I guess you have to mount first your /boot partition
[08:40] <No1Viking> Thanks guys, you ROCK!!!
[08:40] <KentJonathan> Its open !!! thanks :) :) :)
[08:40] <philbert> i cant seem to remember
[08:40] <dabaR> it was lol:)
[08:40] <dabaR> see ya franky
[08:40] <odat> xapaho, how can i be sure what my boot partition is?
[08:41] <Madpilot> No1Viking, your install working now?
[08:41] <dabaR> odat: df -h?
[08:41] <dabaR> :-D
[08:41] <xapaho> dabaR: odat is using ubuntu live cd
[08:42] <dabaR> KentJonathan: what is open?
[08:42] <dabaR> fdisk -l
[08:42] <KentJonathan> the program Synaptic :)
[08:42] <dabaR> KentJonathan: sweet@$$
[08:42] <ron_> could someone give me a hand ?I'd really appreciate it
[08:42] <KentJonathan> thanks
[08:42] <deFrysk> !someone
[08:42] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:42] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[08:42] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:42] <dabaR> ron_: a hand?
[08:42] <aroticoz> Where should my .deb file be so I can install it with that command
[08:42] <aroticoz> :|
[08:43] <ron_> well more like an arm at this point
[08:43] <Madpilot> aroticoz, anywhere
[08:43] <aroticoz> well how will it find it :O
[08:43] <deFrysk> aroticoz, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/foo.deb
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> save it somwwhere  you can find it. :P
[08:43] <dabaR> aroticoz: well, where did you download it to? cd into that directory with :-/ and then run sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[08:43] <Maks0n> hey hey, does anyone know how I can install pine on ubuntu?
[08:43] <aroticoz> thanks
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> !info pine
[08:44] <ron_> i did a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-i386 and now i'm getting kernel panics and can't chroot the drive either
[08:44] <Maks0n> !info pine
[08:44] <xapaho> dabaR: or anyone pls, I need help -- it's been a real pain so far -- how to restore ubuntu kernel files on my boot partition, and re-install grub ? that's all I miss right now
[08:44] <ron_> pine and pico lol
[08:44] <deFrysk> ron_, nano
[08:44] <dabaR> xapaho: do you have a live cd?
[08:45] <ron_> yes nano with backwards compat
[08:45] <dabaR> nice
[08:45] <ron_> anyway how what could be wrong with the drive?
[08:46] <xapaho> well yes, but out of knoppix, sarge, fedora and breezy install cds, the only installer that managed to install properly grub was ubuntu one -- don't know why. is there a way to do it from ubuntu cd ?
[08:46] <dabaR> ya, are you in live, xapaho ?
[08:46] <Maks0n> does anyone know how to get pine working?
[08:46] <xapaho> dabaR: nope
[08:46] <dabaR> Maks0n: did you install it? aptitude search pine.
[08:46] <dabaR> xapaho: well, that is how I rescued mine...
[08:47] <ron_> i'm begging for help here.. i'm out of ideas and am in an unbootable state
[08:47] <Iam8up> ubotu, install hp laserjet 4
[08:47] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Iam8up
[08:47] <Madpilot> !printers
[08:47] <ubotu> printers is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[08:47] <dabaR> ron_: are you going to reinstall that?
[08:47] <ron_> i hope not
[08:47] <Iam8up> Madpilot - already there - doesn't show HOW to do it - it's a compatibility list
[08:47] <Maks0n> no i downloaded pine.tar.gz from tucows but i have no idea how to work it
[08:48] <dabaR> Maks0n: aptitude search pine
[08:48] <ron_> everythings intact fsk indicates no corruption
[08:48] <xapaho> dabaR: is that the only way ??
[08:48] <dabaR> xapaho: I dont know.
[08:48] <Maks0n> v   pinentry                        -
[08:48] <Maks0n> p   pinentry-curses                 - curses-based PIN or pass-phrase entry dia
[08:48] <Maks0n> p   pinentry-doc                    - documentation for pinentry packages
[08:48] <Maks0n> p   pinentry-gtk                    - GTK+-based PIN or pass-phrase entry dialo
[08:48] <Maks0n> i   pinentry-qt                     - Qt-based PIN or pass-phrase entry dialog
[08:48] <Maks0n> v   pinentry-x11                    -
[08:48] <dabaR> Maks0n: dont paste
[08:49] <Maks0n> ok, so wat does all that mean?
[08:49] <xapaho> dabaR: txs anyway
[08:49] <ron_> root@Morph:/home/ron# chroot /mnt/hda2
[08:49] <ron_> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[08:49] <Iam8up> can anyone tell me how to connect to a local printer, on a tcp/ip port?
[08:49] <dabaR> Maks0n: enable universe and multiverse, and install it with synaptic. http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[08:49] <Maks0n> thanks
[08:49] <dabaR> ron_: you mounted it there?
[08:49] <Madpilot> Iam8up, check linuxprinting.org, they've got lots of tutorials & such
[08:49] <ron_> root@Morph:/home/ron# ls /mnt/hda2/bin/bash
[08:49] <ron_> /mnt/hda2/bin/bash
[08:49] <s|k> what's a good PHP/CSS/JavaScript editor in linux?
[08:49] <s|k> and not vim
[08:49] <s|k> I hate vim
[08:49] <s|k> ;P
[08:50] <ron_> it exists just like everything else
[08:50] <dabaR> s|k: emacs?
[08:50] <s|k> oh
[08:50] <dabaR> ron_: ya, there is a method, someone must know
[08:50] <s|k> I'll try that
[08:50] <dabaR> s|k: you will read a book on it?
[08:50] <s|k> :/
[08:50] <s|k> do I need to?
[08:50] <dabaR> do you have something better to read?
[08:51] <s|k> I'm reading anna karenina atm
[08:51] <s|k> that's pretty decent
[08:51] <dabaR> f#
[08:51] <Madpilot> s|k, try Bluefish or Screem for code editing
[08:51] <s|k> is that a package?
[08:51] <s|k> I'll take a look :)
[08:51] <dabaR> they are both programs.
[08:52] <s|k> man I love ubuntu
[08:52] <s|k> I mean is that in the repository :P
[08:52] <Madpilot> s|k, they're both in the repos
[08:52] <s|k> cool
[08:53] <s|k> man I hope linux stays free :0
[08:53] <ron_> i'm wondering why nothings executable
[08:53] <schmity> hey, i wanan run a ubuntu box as just a webserver
[08:53] <schmity> is this a good choice?
[08:53] <s|k> after years of windows and everything being lousy shareware :/
[08:53] <s|k> I'm really happy about open source
[08:53] <ron_> i even copied a debian kernel initrd and /lib/modules/2.6* and still nothing
[08:53] <Madpilot> s|k, the licenses Linux uses ensure it'll stay free (most of it, anyway)
[08:54] <s|k> nice :)
[08:54] <s|k> wasn't SCO trying to bring linux down at one point?
[08:54] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here use GmailFS?
[08:54] <dabaR> pianoboy3333: what's that?
[08:55] <dabaR> s|k: so what has liunux got to do with gnit?
[08:55] <pianoboy3333> It seems like a Gmail File Sharing thing to use your gmail account as an ftp
[08:55] <s|k> I don't even know what gnit is
[08:55] <pianoboy3333> Like gspace
[08:55] <odat> F******** Nothing works
[08:55] <pianoboy3333> dabaR: but gspace is crashing for me in dapper...
[08:56] <dabaR> pianoboy3333: for me too. i lie your nick
[08:57] <pianoboy3333> hmmm
[08:57] <dabaR> schmity: awesome choice
[08:57] <ron_> ehhhh
[08:57] <dabaR> schmity: and yuo can upgrade to dapper soon
[08:58] <No1Viking> Madpilot, it was ubuntu-desktop that was giving me problems
[08:59] <No1Viking> Madpilot, on thing left to solve. The machine wants to delete the kernel image I'm running, odd huh?
[08:59] <schmity> daboR, if it works like id like
[08:59] <schmity> then
[08:59] <Madpilot> No1Viking, fun... run apt-get update and see if there's something newer it wants to use instead?
[08:59] <schmity> dabaR: i might need some help though
[09:00] <akaihola> I'm going to install Breezy from the CD on a computer with no interenet access. I need python-wxgtk2.6 but how do I determine what other dependencies I have to download and take with me?
[09:00] <schmity> like DNS stuff, cuz idk of a program for ubuntu that does it, i got one for mac though
[09:00] <No1Viking> Madpilot, nope, nothing to update
[09:01] <odat> who the f*** know anything about grub and ata drives
[09:01] <raymond8066> can anyone help me with kismet
[09:01] <Madpilot> akaihola, look the package up on packages.ubuntu.com and it should tell you the depends
[09:02] <akaihola> Madpilot: But no quick way to find out dependencies recursively and exclude those already present on the cd?
[09:03] <Madpilot> akaihola, not as far as I know - not thru that website, anyway
[09:06] <candyman> hello
[09:07] <odat> who the f*** know anything about grub and ata drives
[09:07] <candyman> i 've download new version of Firefox. How to install it?
[09:07] <Madpilot> !ff1.5
[09:07] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:08] <Yomic> Haha, that's great.  People got too lazy to type whole explainations so they scripted a bot faq :D
[09:08] <KentJonathan> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[09:08] <KentJonathan>  why this error?
[09:08] <Madpilot> Yomic, the bot's the most intelligent creature in this channel :P
[09:08] <Yomic> XD
[09:08] <candyman> i 've download new version of Firefox. How to install it? plz
[09:08] <ezerson> hello can someone here help me install linux applications?
[09:09] <ezerson> i use ubuntu
[09:09] <Madpilot> candyman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> !tell candyman about firefox1.5
[09:09] <ezerson> hello can someone here help me install linux applications?
[09:09] <GigaClon> which linux applications
[09:09] <Yomic> man firefox1.5
[09:09] <Yomic> :)
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> !info j2re1.4
[09:09] <Madpilot> ezerson, please don't repeat
[09:09] <ezerson> i meant is a xvid plug in
[09:09] <ubotu> j2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 1.4.2.02-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB
[09:09] <ezerson> what do you mean uncompress?
[09:09] <hatake_kakashi> !tell KentJonathan about multiverse
[09:10] <KentJonathan> I am put multiverse
[09:10] <hatake_kakashi> KentJonathan: did you apt-get update  afterwards?
[09:10] <KentJonathan> no
[09:10] <hatake_kakashi> KentJonathan: well do so :)
[09:10] <KentJonathan> how?
[09:10] <hatake_kakashi> 'apt-get update'
[09:11] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, "sudo apt-get update" or hit the Reload button in Synaptic
[09:11] <hatake_kakashi> ezerson: what's the extension of the file you are trying to decompress/install ?
[09:12] <ezerson> hatake i don't really know how to start
[09:12] <ezerson> i downloaded a tar.gz file
[09:12] <hatake_kakashi> ezerson: tar -zxvf foo.tar.gz
[09:12] <GigaClon> you should be able to double-click it
[09:12] <ezerson> for xvid codecs for linux
[09:12] <GigaClon> and open it like in windows
[09:12] <Tomcat_> ezerson: You are trying to install xvid manually? o_O
[09:13] <hatake_kakashi> err.. there is a file-roller I think
[09:13] <ezerson> yes manual install
[09:13] <raymond8066> i need help with kismet
[09:13] <Tomcat_> ezerson: xvid is packaged afaik...
[09:13] <GigaClon> ezerzon, use Synaptic
[09:13] <ezerson> is there an automatic install?
[09:13] <hatake_kakashi> !info xvid
[09:13] <GigaClon> System, Admin, Synaptic
[09:13] <ezerson> whats synaptic is this available here in ubuntu?
[09:13] <GigaClon> yes
[09:13] <Madpilot> ezerson, yes - Ssytem menu - Admin - Synaptic like GigaClon said
[09:13] <ezerson> which directory?
[09:13] <GigaClon> its a package management interface
[09:14] <hatake_kakashi> !info libxvidcore4
[09:14] <ubotu> libxvidcore4: (High quality ISO MPEG4 codec library), section multiverse/libs, is optional. Version: 2:1.0.3-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 187 kB, Installed size: 676 kB
[09:14] <Tomcat_> ezerson: 1.0.3
[09:14] <Tomcat_> Ah, thanks hatake_kakashi.
[09:14] <candyman> I lost my root's password. How to find it :(
[09:14] <Madpilot> candyman, there's no root pw in Ubuntu by default - do you mean your user pw?
[09:14] <ezerson> ahh ok
[09:14] <Tomcat_> candyman: You can't retrieve it... do "sudo passwd root" and re-set it.
[09:14] <ezerson> ill try it
[09:14] <hatake_kakashi> ezerson: to install it, first you need to enable multiverse/universe under synaptic, then refresh the list and look for that thing that I mentioned
[09:15] <No1Viking> candyman, remember it!  :)
[09:15] <Madpilot> !tell ezerson about synaptic
[09:15] <candyman> :)
[09:15] <Madpilot> !tell ezerson about repos
[09:15] <hatake_kakashi> !tell ezerson about multiverse
[09:15] <andrei> adept and synaptic is telling me that the last version of firefox is 1.07... i know that is not true... maybe i need to add some repositories... witch ones ?
[09:16] <GigaClon> !ff1.5
[09:16] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:16] <GigaClon> andrei, ^^^^^
[09:16] <candyman> Tomcat_,  Thank you.
[09:16] <raymond8066> "FATAL:  Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for " can someone help me with this
[09:16] <ezerson> hehehe information overload
[09:16] <andrei> adept and synaptic is telling me that the last version of firefox is 1.07... i know that is not true... maybe i need to add some repositories... witch ones ?
[09:16] <eviltoylet> im trying to do sudo apt-get install sendmail -- but its telling me that theres is no canidate. how do i get it to work? :)
[09:17] <hatake_kakashi> raymond8066: there is a double slash in that output, looks kinda odd
[09:17] <Madpilot> !info sendmail
[09:17] <KentJonathan> I not understand To install the java in my mozilla :(
[09:17] <ubotu> sendmail: (powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent), section universe/mail, is extra. Version: 8.13.4-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 187 kB, Installed size: 244 kB
[09:17] <hatake_kakashi> ezerson: well take notes :)
[09:17] <Madpilot> eviltoylet, you need to enable Universe, probably
[09:17] <Madpilot> !tell eviltoylet about universe
[09:17] <raymond8066> i dont know what it means
[09:17] <andrei> but why isn't the latest version (of more programs not just firefox) listed in adept ? can i do something about it ?
[09:17] <KentJonathan> i see in the pag the comands but he dont service  he dont have nothing error in the install
[09:17] <Madpilot> andrei, in about six weeks the newest version of Ubuntu will be out, with all the latest shiny stuff
[09:19] <eviltoylet> Madpilot thanks. i'll take a look
[09:20] <schmity> ok, i set up ubuntu on install to use my wireless card
[09:21] <schmity> i can switch it to ethernet righT?
[09:22] <s|k> how do I get Java to work with firefox?
[09:22] <ezerson> i have enabled universe and multiverse what should i do to install new tar.gz files i have downloaded?
[09:23] <ezerson> where will i go from here?
[09:23] <Madpilot> ezerson, you shouldn't need the tar.gz - AFAIK there are xvid codecs in Universe - search Synaptic
[09:23] <ezerson> ahhh ok
[09:24] <ezerson> so synaptic acts like an applications manager?
[09:24] <GigaClon> ] ya
[09:24] <Madpilot> ezerson, yes, it installs stuff from Ubuntu's web repositories
[09:24] <ezerson> now i have found xvid what will do i next
[09:25] <ezerson> i am sorry if i ask many questions just new with linux
[09:25] <Madpilot> ezerson, click on the check box next to the listing in synaptic, and choose Install
[09:26] <Madpilot> "Mark For Installation",actually. Then the Apply button
[09:26] <emanuele> hola
[09:26] <theskunk> whats up
[09:26] <emanuele> nothing
[09:26] <ezerson> ok
[09:26] <s|k> I can't get yahoo chess to work because it says I'm missing the java plugin :/
[09:26] <emanuele> new in ubuntu
[09:27] <theskunk> fun stuff
[09:27] <ezerson> what good linux mp3 players do you recommend?
[09:27] <theskunk> what ya running?
[09:27] <Madpilot> ezerson, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:27] <emanuele> no I'm not running at all
[09:27] <Madpilot> ezerson, you'll need to install mp3 support
[09:27] <Madpilot> !tell ezerson about mp3
[09:27] <ezerson> hmmm
[09:27] <emanuele> too beginner
[09:27] <emanuele> and worried
[09:27] <theskunk> emanuele, meant what distribution? breezy 32?
[09:28] <emanuele> want to give up with windows
[09:28] <emanuele> but I cant use anything
[09:28] <theskunk> sure ya can
[09:28] <theskunk> what do you want to use?
[09:28] <emanuele> it always says that I don't have the right do do things
[09:28] <schmity> Madpilot: i selected wireless card on install, can i switch after its finished installing?
[09:28] <Madpilot> schmity, you should be able to, yeah
[09:28] <theskunk> such as
[09:29] <Madpilot> emanuele, which things?
[09:29] <emanuele> for example
[09:29] <schmity> ok thanks
[09:29] <theskunk> i'm actually working on some 'permissions hell' myself
[09:29] <emanuele> I downloaded some files
[09:29] <emanuele> but I cannot open them
[09:29] <emanuele> bloody hell
[09:30] <emanuele> ciao theskunk see 'ya , have to go
[09:30] <theskunk> later
[09:30] <poningru> anyone need help?
[09:30] <renewip> are Ubuntu & Kubuntu DVD different?
[09:30] <ezerson> will yahoo messenger run with linux?
[09:30] <theskunk> so, anybody else in here know permissions really well? namely the fstab and whatnot
[09:30] <Coag> yes
[09:30] <theskunk> yes
[09:31] <renewip> poningru: what matter?
[09:31] <Coag> renewip: one has KDE one has Gnome
[09:31] <deFrysk> ezerson, yes but its butt ugly
[09:31] <akaihola> ezerson: You can use the MSN network with Gaim.
[09:31] <renewip> thanks
[09:31] <theskunk> ezerson, use gaim
[09:31] <Tomcat_> ezerson: gaim can do yahoo.
[09:31] <ezerson> ahhh ok
[09:31] <akaihola> !tell ezerson about gaim
[09:31] <poningru> ezerson: gaim and kopete can do yahoo
[09:31] <Coag> ezerson: use either gaim or kopete
[09:31] <poningru> thenuke: whats wrong?
[09:31] <ezerson> so all i need to do is search that on synaptic right?
[09:31] <poningru> ezerson: yep
[09:31] <Tomcat_> ezerson: It's installed by default
[09:31] <poningru> actually it should be installed by default
[09:31] <deFrysk> ezerson, gaim is installed by default
[09:32] <Tomcat_> Hehe... :D
[09:32] <Madpilot> ezerson, gaim is installed by default - Apps-Internet-gAIM
[09:32] <deFrysk> *echoing continues
[09:32] <renewip> does Ubuntu DVD include all packages which are supported?
[09:32] <Tomcat_> We need more people to help. :)
[09:32] <thenuke> poningru: nothing :)
[09:32] <Tomcat_> renewip: Yes.
[09:32] <Tomcat_> renewip: And some more.
[09:32] <theskunk> poningru, basically, i have a new hard drive in my computer, and i set up the fstab the way i have in slackware/gentoo however the drive will not automount, nor to i have write permissions when it is mounted. the user has read/mount permissions, just cant write to it
[09:32] <poningru> hmm
[09:33] <poningru> thenuke: is it ntfs?
[09:33] <Madpilot> theskunk, have you read the how-to-mount wiki page?
[09:33] <Madpilot> !mount
[09:33] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:33] <thenuke> poningru: I guess you are trying to help theskunk instead of me :)
[09:33] <ezerson> well i can log in to yahoo now but no voice chat or webcam view?
[09:33] <theskunk> Madpilot, i glanced at it.... poningru it is fat32
[09:34] <Tomcat_> ezerson: Probably not.
[09:34] <poningru> thenuke: sorry
[09:34] <raymond8066> can someone help me with airsnort
[09:34] <ezerson> owwzzz
[09:34] <thenuke> poningru: no prob :)
[09:34] <theskunk> im also eventually going to attempt the same with a smbshare
[09:34] <akaihola> ezerson: amsn can do webcam on the MSN messenger network
[09:34] <Tomcat_> ezerson: There are other programs to do that.
[09:34] <poningru> ezerson: use kopete
[09:34] <renewip> I can download Ubuntu DVD & install instead connect my PC to internet and do?
[09:35] <akaihola> !tell ezerson about webcam
[09:35] <renewip> I mean Ubuntu DVD is another Ubuntu "mirror"
[09:35] <Tomcat_> renewip: Erm... could you rephrase that question? :)
[09:35] <Tomcat_> renewip: Yes.
[09:35] <ezerson> kopete is for yahoo network too?
[09:36] <theskunk> ...oops
[09:36] <Tomcat_> ezerson: Most 3rd party messengers (Windows, Linux and OSX) can do most IM networks.
[09:36] <raymond8066> can someone help me get my wireless network card in monitor mode
[09:36] <theskunk> Madpilot, toss me that link again please
[09:36] <theskunk> raymond8066, what chipset?
[09:36] <raymond8066> uhhhh
[09:36] <Madpilot> theskunk, scroll up a bit to ubotu's last post
[09:36] <ezerson> wow you guys are good with this
[09:36] <raymond8066> eth0
[09:36] <theskunk> Madpilot, Xserv crashed....
[09:36] <ezerson> now im learning on a fast rate coz of you guys
[09:37] <theskunk> ezerson, good deal!
[09:37] <Madpilot> !tell theskunk about mount
[09:37] <theskunk> thanks
[09:37] <Madpilot> np
[09:37] <leanwithit> ok. i painted something using Tux Paint, do you know where it saves anything i save?
[09:37] <raymond8066> i dont rember
[09:37] <raymond8066> can you help me
[09:38] <phreak97> sold a nes with four games for AU$45, yay
[09:38] <irvs10tz> hey.. my audacity doesn't work... when i open audacity, a box appears and says "there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer, You will not be able to play or record audio"  Please help..........
[09:38] <raymond8066> o its a prisim
[09:39] <s|k> how does one get Java to work in firefox?
[09:39] <simulatio> is there someone here who can guide a newb when getting his ATI card working?
[09:39] <s|k> I followed the offical instructions
[09:39] <leanwithit> ok. i painted something using Tux Paint, do you know where it saves anything i save?
[09:39] <Madpilot> !tell simulatio about ati
[09:39] <theskunk> raymond8066, look up on google the chipset name and monitor mode. its probably something specific to the driver itself and may not be necessarily ubuntu specific.
[09:40] <Madpilot> leanwithit, the save dialogue should have told you a directory - probably your home dir by default
[09:40] <leanwithit> nope
[09:40] <carrocka> exit
[09:40] <raymond8066> can someone help me get my wireless network card in monitor mode
[09:40] <irvs10tz> hey.. my audacity doesn't work... when i open audacity, a box appears and says "there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer, You will not be able to play or record audio"  Please help..........
[09:41] <akaihola> !tell irvs10tz about sound
[09:42] <simulatio> i've done everything to get the +?3#!! ATI card to work, nothing in the forums seem to help me!
[09:43] <Madpilot> simulatio, did you try the wiki page the bot just sent you?
[09:43] <simulatio> yes
[09:43] <Madpilot> which model ATI?
[09:43] <irvs10tz> please also help me on installing my ATI card
[09:43] <simulatio> i think 9600 (128mb)
[09:43] <redblade> Hi all
[09:43] <GDG> hi folks
[09:43] <redblade> How can I compress files in ubuntu?
[09:43] <Madpilot> simulatio, I've got a 9600XT, the wiki instructions work fine for me...
[09:44] <leanwithit> tar it
[09:44] <redblade> I need to open them in Windows as well as ubuntu
[09:44] <GDG> small question: can I reduce disk occupation of my ubuntu? I need to put it in 512MB
[09:44] <leanwithit> zip them
[09:44] <Madpilot> redblade, Applications -> Accessories -> Archive Manager to create a zip file
[09:44] <redblade> Thankyou
[09:44] <redblade> That was what I was not sure of
[09:44] <KentJonathan> what is the command in terminal for create a new folder?
[09:45] <leanwithit> mkdir
[09:45] <simulatio> madpilot, as i said, i'm really a linux-beginner, but i've done all the guides at least two times
[09:45] <leanwithit> for example: mkdir testfolder
[09:45] <KentJonathan> thanks :)
[09:45] <GDG> small question: can I reduce disk occupation of my ubuntu? I need to put it in 512MB
[09:45] <leanwithit> np
[09:45] <blazemonger> i've been having trouble compilnig svgalib
[09:45] <GigaClon> GDG, use fluxbox?
[09:45] <Madpilot> simulatio, I'm not an expert, but my card works here - not sure I can help
[09:46] <KentJonathan> ANd to move a file to a folder?
[09:46] <simulatio> ok, thanks anyway
[09:46] <Madpilot> !tell KentJonathan about cli
[09:46] <GDG> GigaClon, ok other ? I mean I must "uninstall" Gnome
[09:46] <Maks0n> Hello, does anyone know much about configuring fetchmail for gmail?
[09:46] <blazemonger> never copmpiled fetchmail
[09:47] <irvs10tz> please help me on installing my ATI card
[09:47] <GigaClon> KentJonathan you should be able to click and drag the file to were you want to go
[09:47] <redblade> Madpilot, sorry one other thing, the files I'm compressing are in excess of 1.9 Gig
[09:47] <Madpilot> redblade, and?
[09:48] <Madpilot> !tell irvs10tz about ati
[09:48] <Maks0n> ive been googling all nite but i can't seem to get it working
[09:48] <redblade> Madpilot - Is there a way to split the .rar up? in to smaller .rar's?
[09:48] <Maks0n> all i want is a command line email client for gmail
[09:48] <Madpilot> redblade, I think so, but I'm not sure - never done that myself
[09:48] <leanwithit> ok. i painted something using Tux Paint, do you know where it saved the thing ive painted?
[09:48] <KentJonathan> mv: cannot move `jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin' to `/usr/java/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin': Permission denied
[09:49] <Madpilot> leanwithit, do you remember the filename you gave it?
[09:49] <GigaClon> use sudo
[09:49] <KentJonathan> why put off the permission?
[09:49] <GigaClon> type sudo before the command
[09:49] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, use "sudo mv <whatever>"
[09:49] <GigaClon> then enter your password when prompted
[09:49] <KentJonathan> where put thats comand in root o in my user?
[09:50] <Tom_Kidd> Can someone please tell me how to get into virtual desktop mode using WINE?
[09:50] <leanwithit> yeah
[09:50] <blazemonger> what's a good solution to successfully compiling svgalib
[09:50] <leanwithit> @ Madpilot
[09:50] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, as your user - you shouldn't ever have to user root
[09:50] <Madpilot> leanwithit, Places menu -> Search for File, then
[09:50] <leanwithit> lol, thats what im doing right now
[09:50] <leanwithit> i just thought about it
[09:51] <voodoocrash> How can I access my other partitions that are under windows, they are ntfs type
[09:51] <leanwithit> sudo cd /media/<some drive>
[09:51] <voodoocrash> thanks
[09:51] <poningru> voodoocrash: did they mount?
[09:51] <leanwithit> but they're read-only though
[09:51] <Madpilot> !tell voodoocrash about ntfs
[09:52] <theskunk> anybody in here tried out XGL with dapper yet?
[09:52] <Tomcat_> theskunk: Yes.
[09:52] <poningru> theskunk: #ubuntu+1
[09:52] <theskunk> Tomcat_, still running it?
[09:52] <deFrysk> theskunk, yes , it works but not up to my standards yet
[09:52] <Tomcat_> theskunk: No.
[09:53] <slabby> hi is there a way that I can make ath0 the permanent default rather than etho0
[09:53] <deFrysk> theskunk, so i disabled it
[09:53] <theskunk> Tomcat_, is that for dapper?
[09:53] <Tomcat_> theskunk: Didn't work on any of two NVidia cards I tried and was unusable on the Intel chipset.
[09:53] <theskunk> really
[09:53] <Tomcat_> theskunk: Eh... sure, dapper.
[09:53] <deFrysk> theskunk, it worked on mine
[09:53] <theskunk> im running it right now and its great except for the fact that ut2004/quake3 just doesnt work at all
[09:53] <poningru> slabby: did you change it network manager?
[09:53] <deFrysk> nvidia videa and asus amd mobo
[09:54] <leanwithit> Madpilot, oh no, it didn't ask me for a filename
[09:54] <andrey_> 
[09:54] <leanwithit> it just saved itself
[09:54] <slabby> poningru, yes but after a reboot at makes my eth0 the default gateway device
[09:54] <KentJonathan> how can compressd the files jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin ?
[09:54] <raymond8066> i cant find out how to put my wireless network in monitor mode
[09:54] <Madpilot> leanwithit, strange - I've never used tuxpaint though
[09:54] <Madpilot> !tell KentJonathan about java
[09:54] <KentJonathan> I now of java !
[09:55] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, please read that page, then
[09:55] <poningru> slabby: hmm hold on let me see
[09:55] <deFrysk> KentJonathan, you need the .bin , not the rpm.bin
[09:55] <KentJonathan> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-rpm.bin <= how compress this file
[09:55] <KentJonathan> .bin oh
[09:55] <deFrysk> KentJonathan, wrong file you have there to use ;)
[09:55] <slabby> poningru, im on breazy if that is any help
[09:56] <deFrysk> KentJonathan, read the given message to get the project done ;)
[09:56] <KentJonathan> deFrysk and how to compress the files .bin?
[09:56] <deFrysk> KentJonathan, compress to what ?
[09:56] <KentJonathan> to have the package
[09:56] <KentJonathan> the files..
[09:57] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, the wiki page you've been sent the URL to has all this information!
[09:57] <voodoocrash> Um, my partitions seem to be mounted but when I try to open them it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda5"."
[09:57] <KentJonathan> Madpilot is not service
[09:57] <deFrysk> KentJonathan, read the given message from ubotu
[09:57] <KentJonathan> i dont now why the error of e
[09:57] <poningru> slabby right hold on
[09:57] <voodoocrash> Um, my partitions seem to be mounted but when I try to open them it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda5"."
[09:57] <deFrysk> KentJonathan, madpilot is top service
[09:57] <KentJonathan> I put all correct of sypnatic
[09:58] <slabby> poningru, ok
[09:58] <KentJonathan> and he dont service the files
[09:58] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, what is your native language?
[09:58] <KentJonathan> spanish :(
[09:58] <blazemonger> anyone want to try to compile svgalib?
[09:58] <Madpilot> !es
[09:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:58] <blazemonger> i'm thinking somethings messed up with the build environment
[09:58] <KentJonathan> Is never people online
[09:58] <voodoocrash> how can I change the permissions so that I can access my other partitions
[09:59] <KentJonathan> is not a persons online
[09:59] <jaawood> voodoocrash, change ownership of the directories, and then if necessary then change the permissions of those directories
[10:00] <akaihola> voodoocrash: isn't there a graphical disks configuration tool?
[10:00] <blazemonger> "VTotal" does not give a valid preprocessing token
[10:00] <jaawood> sudo chown -R <user> /mounted/directory
[10:00] <slabby> akaihola -- system- administration - - disks
[10:00] <leanwithit> ok. i painted something using Tux Paint, do you know where it saved the thing ive painted?
[10:00] <KentJonathan> !en
[10:00] <ubotu> from memory, en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[10:01] <HappyFool> heh
[10:01] <KentJonathan> !it
[10:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:01] <deFrysk> KentJonathan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[10:01] <HappyFool> wut about us crappy en-za speakers then? :P
[10:01] <KentJonathan> what that?
[10:01] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, Italian
[10:01] <deFrysk> KentJonathan, follow this exactly and your sunjava should work fine
[10:01] <slabby> What is your favourite Mp3 player for Ubuntu?
[10:01] <poningru> slabby: sorry dude I cant figure it out
[10:02] <KentJonathan> I now the italian but is not online :(
[10:02] <slabby> poningru, ok
[10:02] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, carefully read the URL deFrysk just gave you - it really does work
[10:02] <KentJonathan> ok
[10:03] <KentJonathan> I have that's file
[10:03] <slabby> What is your favourite Mp3 player for Ubuntu?
[10:03] <poningru> !mp3
[10:03] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:03] <poningru> slabby: can you play mp3 right now?
[10:04] <HymnToLife> slabby> amarok
[10:04] <iam8up|lappy> can anyone tell me how to put ubuntu into standby mode? or where the option is on gnome?
[10:04] <slabby> poningru, no it says totem cannot start up but ive heard totem isnt good
[10:04] <deFrysk> beep-media-player, banshee
[10:04] <jaawood> rhythmbox, love the layout
[10:04] <Madpilot> slabby, totem will play anything, given the right codecs
[10:04] <voodoocrash> how can I change the ownership of the directories ?
[10:04] <Madpilot> !tell slabby aboutmp3
[10:04] <Madpilot> !tell slabby about mp3
[10:05] <fangorious> other than installing gnome-user-share and enabling sharing in System->Preferences->Personal File Sharing, should I have to do anything to get Mac's to see me in the network browsing?
[10:05] <leanwithit> chmod
[10:05] <HymnToLife> voodoocrash> (sudo) chown -R user /path/to/dir
[10:05] <iam8up|lappy> voodoocrash, you can type: chown user:group /this/dir
[10:05] <jaawood> voodoocrash, sudo chown -R <user> /mounted/directory
[10:05] <leanwithit> or that ^^
[10:05] <quad_> Have anybody got an idea to how I might make my Ubuntu installation run faster. My CPU is only 650MHz??
[10:05] <Madpilot> voodoocrash, which directory? be careful changing the ownership of stuff...
[10:05] <KentJonathan> E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete java-package
[10:05] <KentJonathan>  = E: he dont find the packet of java-packge :@ :@
[10:05] <poningru> !tell slabby about mp3
[10:05] <voodoocrash> well, my HDA5
[10:05] <fangorious> quad_: maybe run xfce instead of gnome
[10:05] <voodoocrash> I can't access it
[10:05] <jonas3> quad, use Windowmaker as desktop
[10:06] <HymnToLife> !tell KentJonathan about java
[10:06] <jaawood> quad_, different window manager will speed things up, stop daemons and services you don't want or use
[10:06] <jonas3> xfce is also cool, but windowmaker is slicker
[10:06] <jonas3> and alot faster
[10:06] <raymond8066> can someone please help me with kismet
[10:06] <voodoocrash> it is mounted but I can't access it
[10:06] <Madpilot> !info java-package
[10:06] <KentJonathan> thats is my problem :(
[10:06] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[10:06] <poningru> quad_: have you looked into the unofficial mubuntu?
[10:06] <Sendervictorius> quad: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LowEndSystemSupport
[10:06] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, you need to enable the Multiverse repository to get that
[10:06] <canllaith> Hi, I've just tried installing drscheme through apt and it's completely broken. There is no text in any of the menus, etc. Does anyone have any idea why this might be?
[10:06] <HymnToLife> voodoocrash> windows drive ?
[10:06] <Madpilot> !tell KentJonathan about multiverse
[10:06] <KentJonathan> but y have enable ?
[10:07] <voodoocrash> no, logical partition, ntfs
[10:07] <KentJonathan> but y have enable !! the multiservers :s
[10:07] <quad_> poningru, No I have not, I have tried xfce though... and didn't increase my speed that much.
[10:07] <HymnToLife> then...
[10:07] <HymnToLife> !tell voodoocrash about ntfs
[10:07] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, hit the Reload button in Synaptic, or "sudo apt-get update"
[10:07] <raymond8066> "raymond@WORKGROUP:~$ kismet
[10:07] <raymond8066> Server options:  none
[10:07] <raymond8066> Client options:  none
[10:07] <raymond8066> Starting server...
[10:07] <raymond8066> Waiting for server to start before starting UI...
[10:07] <raymond8066> Suid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.
[10:07] <hyperstream> xchat-gnome sucks :x
[10:08] <raymond8066> FATAL:  Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for writing: Permission deniedraymond@WORKGROUP:~$
[10:08] <raymond8066> "  i need help with this can someone help me
[10:08] <voodoocrash> urgh, is is mounted, I don't have permissions to access it
[10:08] <HymnToLife> !tell raymond8066 about pastebin
[10:08] <KentJonathan> the same !!!
[10:08] <Madpilot> raymond8066, next time use pastebin
[10:08] <raymond8066> k
[10:08] <slabby> Do you play MP3's or do you use Ogg's instead?
[10:08] <Madpilot> slabby, you can play mp3 in Ubuntu, I mostly use ogg or flac myself
[10:08] <HymnToLife> voodoocrash> obviously you didn't mount it properly
[10:09] <slabby> madpilot, ok some of my audio is FLAC but mostly MP3
[10:09] <voodoocrash> it mounted it auto
[10:09] <Madpilot> slabby, so follow the wiki link you were sent, and your mp3s will work fine
[10:09] <KentJonathan> I have enable all !
[10:09] <raymond8066> can anyone help
[10:09] <HymnToLife> reminds me I should take the time to rerip all my CDs into ogg
[10:09] <slabby> madpilot, ok im reading now
[10:10] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> can you paste the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin please ?
[10:10] <KentJonathan> what is pastebin?
[10:11] <GigaClon> pastebin.com
[10:11] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[10:11] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[10:11] <leanwithit> ok. i painted something using Tux Paint, do you know where it saved the thing ive painted?
[10:11] <quad_> Can I change WM without logging out??
[10:12] <liable> no
[10:12] <quad_> :(
[10:12] <fangorious> webdav file sharing doesn't seem to be working for me. i installed gnome-user-share, enabled sharing in Preferences->Personal File Sharing, and put a file in ~/Public. browsing the network on my Mac doesn't see the share (likewise in reverse, I don't see my mac in dapper under Places->Network)
[10:12] <liable> well, logging out from x..
[10:12] <raymond8066> this thing is gay
[10:12] <cppnewbie> lol
[10:13] <ompaul> !gay
[10:13] <KentJonathan> ?
[10:13] <ompaul> !+gay
[10:13] <ubotu> [gay]  the dictionary says "Excited with merriment; manifesting sportiveness or delight; inspiring delight; livery; merry."  But some people don't know what it means, I guess  Some highly ignorant folks think it's an insult of some sort.  Who can tell why?
[10:13] <Madpilot> ompaul, :P
[10:14] <ompaul> kick him before I di
[10:14] <ompaul> do
[10:14] <alanon> How do I define default gpu in xorg.conf?
[10:15] <KentJonathan> Name ut your name HymnToLife
[10:16] <liable> +b for away msg?
[10:16] <Madpilot> liable, normally just a kick, but he auto-rejoined
[10:16] <KentJonathan> ?
[10:17] <liable> fair 'nough
[10:17] <ompaul> for auto away kick and for avoiding the kick - ban  auto away is spam
[10:17] <KentJonathan> Name put your name ?HymnToLife
[10:18] <liable> !away
[10:18] <ubotu> Please don't use /away in your client or change your nick to 'someone|away'. We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. See http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
[10:18] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> ?
[10:19] <canllaith> I assume it's fine to set yourself /away on a client like irssi that doesn't automatically spam a stupid message
[10:19] <leanwithit> what is XGL
[10:19] <leanwithit> any info bout it?
[10:19] <HappyFool> !xgl
[10:19] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:19] <Madpilot> canllaith, of course - XChat's defaults are fine too
[10:19] <KentJonathan> Yes i am put the text and he is a option he say Name: put your name?
[10:19] <liable> canllaith: not really, in a busy channel, its quite annoying.
[10:19] <canllaith> It's annoying when it doesn't print anything at all to the channel? :)
[10:20] <liable> oh, right..
[10:20] <Madpilot> liable, if the only place it shows up is in a /whois?
[10:20] <ompaul> canllaith, and liable canllaith is right :-) but you just figured that
[10:20] <KentJonathan> For send the pastebind
[10:20] <canllaith> I guess no-one has used the drscheme package then ?
[10:21] <simulatio> how do i start up my computer in text-mode?
[10:21] <liable> i've never even used it, didnt realise irssi does that.
[10:21] <HappyFool> simulatio: disable the gdm service (you can also stop it once the machine has booted into graphical mode)
[10:22] <simulatio> happyfool, how do i do that?
[10:22] <HappyFool> simulatio: there is also a recovery mode, which you can choose at boot time (press ESC at boot if you don't see the grub menu)
[10:22] <leanwithit> what is xgl, specifically?
[10:22] <canllaith> liable: the main reason is that it then starts an awaylog, which when you come back will print to the server window every time someone said your name, pretty nifty.
[10:22] <cppnewbie> simulatio:  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop if i understood what u wanna :D
[10:22] <simulatio> happyfool, ok i'll try recoverymode, thanks
[10:22] <ompaul> simulatio, first you run >>sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop<< then you reboot same command with start will reinstate it
[10:22] <liable> canllaith: i just /lastlog myself :)
[10:22] <HappyFool> simulatio: disable gdm ? something like 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[10:22] <canllaith> Yes that's something I wanted to ask - if Ubuntu uses runlevel 2 for GDM, and 1 is single user, can I switch to a multiuser runlevel without gdm through telinit?
[10:22] <leanwithit> ok. i painted something using Tux Paint, do you know where it saved the thing ive painted?
[10:22] <canllaith> It doesn't seem like it
[10:22] <canllaith> liable: heh I talk way too much for that sadly
[10:23] <HappyFool> leanwithit: probably in your home directory somewhere; click on 'Places -> Home Folder' and take a look around
[10:23] <voodoocrash> great, now how can I play mp3's :O
[10:24] <ompaul> !mo3
[10:24] <ubotu> ompaul: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:24] <ompaul> !mp3
[10:24] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:24] <HappyFool> leanwithit: for xgl, take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl
[10:25] <HappyFool> why you would *want* to project a movie onto the corner of a cube is anyone's guess, of course ;)
[10:26] <sudharsh> leanwithit: tux paint..:O
[10:27] <HymnToLife> hi gnomefreak :)
[10:27] <gnomefreak> hi HymnToLife
[10:27] <leanwithit> sudharsh?
[10:28] <sudharsh> leanwithit: nvr mind :)
[10:29] <irvs10tz> hey guys.. how can i open files from a floppy disk..?????????
[10:30] <HymnToLife> irvs10tz> look in /media/floppy
[10:30] <ompaul> irvs10tz,  did you know that less question marks, make your question more effective? ;-)
[10:31] <eastgroup> hello
[10:31] <HappyFool> any statement with three exclamation marks is automatically true!!!
[10:31] <ompaul> HappyFool, you don't say!!!
[10:31] <irvs10tz> im sorry, now how do i open files from a floppy?
[10:31] <eastgroup> how to change proftp directory and how to add users ?
[10:32] <Madpilot> yes, but any statement with more than three is a sign of insanity!!!!
[10:32] <pwn3r> whatrs up mofo muth fuck yas
[10:32] <daxxar> irvs10tz, see what HymnToLife said? ;)
[10:32] <pwn3r> lol] 
[10:32] <pwn3r> damn
[10:32] <GigaClon> lol
[10:32] <irvs10tz> alright
[10:32] <Madpilot> the short, pathetic life of a #ubuntu troll :P
[10:32] <HappyFool> irvs10tz: are floppies auto-mounted ?
[10:32] <HappyFool> err
[10:33] <gnomefreak> update is borked :(
[10:33] <HappyFool> that was a general question
[10:33] <irvs10tz> HappyFool, i dont know if its auto-mounted
[10:33] <HappyFool> irvs10tz: well, if there's nothing in /media/floppy, the odds are no
[10:33] <ompaul> HappyFool, if set to do so, system preferences removable disks
[10:34] <ompaul> HappyFool, I'll let you work it out and help irvs10tz  :-)
[10:34] <HappyFool> irvs10tz: take a look in Places -> Computer -> Floppy Drive
[10:34] <KentJonathan> !install.sfx
[10:34] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KentJonathan
[10:34] <KentJonathan> :S
[10:34] <HappyFool> ompaul: alas i don't have any a floppy disk to play with here ;)
[10:34] <ompaul> HappyFool, see my message about it
[10:35] <schmity> is there anything like WebServerXkit for ubuntu?
[10:35] <ompaul> HappyFool, the *other* one  (the * means you can't see this message) :-/
[10:35] <irvs10tz> HappyFool,
[10:35] <irvs10tz> HappyFool, it says unable to mount the selected volume
[10:36] <ompaul> schmity, not knowing what WebServerXkit I am curious do you mean like the apache2 web server? or some kind of blogging stuff or something
[10:36] <HappyFool> irvs10tz: obviously there is a disk in the drive ?
[10:36] <schmity> yeah, apache2 web server
[10:36] <schmity> ompaul: is there something of the like?
[10:36] <Madpilot> !tell schmity about apache
[10:36] <HappyFool> irvs10tz: what does 'Show more details' say? (please don't paste more than two lines here)
[10:37] <ompaul> schmity, yes, this is a fully blown Linux distro so, sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:37] <irvs10tz> HappyFool, there is a disk in the drive
[10:37] <irvs10tz> HappyFool, Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume
[10:37] <HappyFool> hrm
[10:37] <ompaul> irvs10tz, on the command line >sudo mount /media/floppy
[10:37] <HappyFool> time to go CLI, i reckon
[10:37] <schmity> ompaul: does it have MySQL and PHP though?
[10:38] <ompaul> schmity, ehh, yeah
[10:38] <Madpilot> schmity, see the link the bot just sent you
[10:38] <HappyFool> irvs10tz: try what ompaul suggested (in terminal - Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal)
[10:38] <ompaul> pitti was late there
[10:38] <irvs10tz> ompaul, i tried but i think nothing worked
[10:38] <ompaul> what did it do?
[10:39] <eastgroup> how i can add more users and lock to directory ?
[10:39] <eastgroup> to proftpd ..
[10:39] <eastgroup> i have access to webmin admin and can't add more users . help me  plz
[10:39] <HymnToLife> eastgroup> just the same way you add a local user
[10:40] <HymnToLife> sudo userad blablabla
[10:40] <ompaul> irvs10tz, care to share with us, was there an error message or something else?
[10:41] <ompaul> irvs10tz, do a >> df << at any time to check what is mounted
[10:41] <irvs10tz> ompaul: actually i think it is not still in effect.. my disk drive started blinking... is it already mounting??
[10:42] <ompaul> irvs10tz, did you check with >>df << ?
[10:42] <irvs10tz> ompaul: not yet. how will i check with df?
[10:42] <eastgroup> HymnToLife , i didn't add user to proftp , it's takes admin login to access ftp
[10:42] <schmity> night
[10:43] <ompaul> irvs10tz, on the command line
[10:43] <HymnToLife> dunno then
[10:43] <HymnToLife> I use vsftpd
[10:43] <irvs10tz> ompaul, will i type the word df on the command line?
[10:43] <ompaul> irvs10tz,  yes
[10:43] <eastgroup> HymnToLife , is it better then proftpd
[10:43] <voodoocrash> how do I install a .deb file ?
[10:44] <HappyFool> !deb
[10:44] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[10:44] <HappyFool> yeah, rather use apt if you can
[10:44] <irvs10tz> ompaul, seems like nothing is happening
[10:44] <HymnToLife> eastgroup> not that I'm aware of
[10:44] <ompaul> voodoocrash, just so as to save you from issues where did you get it? use the wrong one and have lots of pain
[10:44] <HymnToLife> there is no big difference
[10:44] <HymnToLife> though they obviously work different ways
[10:45] <ompaul> irvs10tz, okay lets try something else
[10:45] <meee> anyone here attempted to install a wpc11?
[10:46] <marlun> Is there a better feed reader for linux then Liferea?
[10:46] <Frogzoo> meee: wtf is a wpc11?
[10:46] <ompaul> is there a command prompt there in the terminal? looks like your_user@something:~$  >
[10:46] <ompaul> ?
[10:46] <irvs10tz> ompaul, somehthing appeared already on the terminal
[10:46] <meee> its a linksys network pcmcia card
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: if i had to guess a sireless pci card
[10:46] <ompaul> irvs10tz, did it have the word "floppy" in there?
[10:46] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: wins a prize!
[10:46] <gnomefreak> wireles
[10:46] <irvs10tz> ompaul, it says mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:47] <richard> Does Ubuntu have an Internet Cafe software package?
[10:47] <KentJonathan> !sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[10:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KentJonathan
[10:47] <gnomefreak> brb trying to work with a possesed pc
[10:47] <KentJonathan> !j2re1.4
[10:47] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KentJonathan
[10:47] <KentJonathan> ! j2re1.4
[10:47] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, KentJonathan
[10:47] <KentJonathan> =/
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell KentJonathan about jave
[10:47] <irvs10tz> ompaul, i didn't see the word floppy
[10:48] <ompaul> irvs10tz,  mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kent about java
[10:48] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, if you want to talk to the bot, do it in /msg please
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell KentJonathan about msg the bot
[10:48] <gnomefreak> now brb
[10:48] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, 3rd times the charm :P
[10:48] <ompaul> gnome you took the text right offa my screen
[10:48] <viller> what was the chat channel called?
[10:48] <ompaul>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <viller> I always forget it
[10:49] <ompaul> viller, u using xchat?
[10:49] <viller> i try ubuntu-chat all the times :D
[10:49] <viller> ompaul: yes
[10:49] <irvs10tz> ompaul, mount: only root can do that
[10:50] <ppcguy> hey all.. How can I see an ntfs partition w/ Breezy on an intel machine?
[10:50] <HymnToLife> !ntfs
[10:50] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:50] <ompaul> viller as you start it up you can edit it to join #ubuntu-offtopic at the same time just "edit" freenode (the default) and work from there you see #ubuntu put in a , and then the other channel names
[10:50] <ompaul> irvs10tz, sorry >>sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[10:50] <viller> ok
[10:50] <slabby> this is a long shot but is there any 5.1 support for ubuntu? Im using a nforce 4 board with onboard sound
[10:50] <KentJonathan> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate why :(
[10:51] <HymnToLife> KentJonathan> just follow the wiki page forheavan's sake !
[10:51] <HymnToLife> !jaa
[10:51] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[10:51] <Frogzoo> richard: seeing as noone else has answered, I'll chip in - take a look at the openwrt site, where there is net cafe s/w from memory, & then see about getting the pkg under ubuntu
[10:51] <HymnToLife> !java
[10:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:51] <KentJonathan> yes is the first
[10:51] <KentJonathan> But he dont service :(
[10:52] <viller> noone is talking in ubuntu-offtopic
[10:52] <KentJonathan> !javadebs
[10:52] <gnomefreak> sorry ompaul im still learning how to sleep type
[10:52] <irvs10tz> ompaul, mount: /dev/fd0: can't read superblock
[10:52] <richard> Thank you Frogzoo. That should help :)
[10:53] <slabby> this is a long shot but is there any 5.1 support for ubuntu? Im using a nforce 4 board with onboard sound
[10:53] <richard> Uh: where is the openwrt site?
[10:54] <Madpilot> slabby, have you checked ubuntuforums.org?
[10:54] <meee> so I take it no one here has ever installed a wpc11 linksys wifi card on ubunti
[10:54] <zafar> hello everybody
[10:54] <irvs10tz> ompaul, mount: /dev/fd0: can't read superblock
[10:54] <Madpilot> meee, have you see the wireless hardware page on the wiki?
[10:55] <Madpilot> !wireless
[10:55] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:55] <Madpilot> meee, ^^^
[10:55] <abhinav> multiprocessing in python.Any idea?
[10:55] <zafar> how to install MC in Ubuntu? thanks!
[10:55] <meee> thank you
[10:55] <cppnewbie> cant access my ntfs disk, says its protected, what do i do to access it? last time somebody told me how to do it but after a reboot it was back again, i could access sda1
[10:55] <cppnewbie> *couldnt
[10:55] <Madpilot> !info mc
[10:55] <KentJonathan> in what folder is my sources.list ?
[10:55] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[10:55] <gnomefreak> zafar: enable universe andn than update than sudo apt-get install mc
[10:55] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:55] <KentJonathan> ok
[10:56] <Madpilot> KentJonathan, in a terminal, type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:56] <zafar> gnomefreak, thanks, sorry for ignorance, but what is universe and how to enable it? i m very new to ubuntu
[10:57] <irvs10tz> ompaul, where are you now?
[10:57] <Madpilot> !tell zafar about universe
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zafar about universe
[10:57] <gnomefreak> zafar: read the pm ubotu sent you
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ty Madpilot
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:57] <Ashly> Ok I dont think wine will install on my x86_64 system :P
[10:57] <ompaul> irvs10tz, sometimes I get up and walk around where I am and make and take phone calls :)
[10:58] <viller> is it hard to build a computer? I mean just assemble the parts?
[10:58] <Madpilot> viller, not really
[10:58] <gnomefreak> viller: have you dont it before?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> done*
[10:58] <ompaul> irvs10tz,  >>sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy<<  have you the -t dos there?
[10:58] <Frogzoo> Ashly: are you usine the wine.sourceforge.net repo?
[10:58] <ompaul> viller, not really
[10:59] <gnomefreak> it can get tricky if you dont know the specs of the motherboard
[10:59] <irvs10tz> ompaul, yup
[10:59] <zafar> does ubuntu have built-in IPtABLES? if yes, how to access it?
[10:59] <viller> I have never done it
[10:59] <ompaul> irvs10tz, then I would take out that floppy and try another
[10:59] <Frogzoo> zafar: yes - 'sudo iptables'
[10:59] <Madpilot> zafar, it does, easiest way is to install firestarter
[10:59] <enyc> zafar: yes ...
[10:59] <noobie> can someone here help me login to su
[10:59] <angel> i need help with kadu
[10:59] <gnomefreak> zafar: yes they are built in sudo iptables should get you to view the settings
[10:59] <Frogzoo> noobie: use sudo...
[10:59] <Madpilot> noobie, use sudo & your own user pw
[10:59] <gnomefreak> noobie: use sudo su is locked
[11:00] <Madpilot> !tell noobie about sudo
[11:00] <noobie> sudo is not working right
[11:00] <ompaul> noobie, how so?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> noobie: what do you mean?
[11:00] <noobie> raymond@WORKGROUP:~$ sudo
[11:00] <noobie> usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v
[11:00] <noobie> usage: sudo [-HPSb]  [-p prompt]  [-u username|#uid] 
[11:00] <noobie>             { -e file [...]  | -i | -s | <command> }
[11:00] <viller> are there any tutorials on building a computer :D? Hardware should have installing manuals with them right?
[11:00] <Seveas> !goodmorning
[11:00] <ompaul> noobie, that is not how you run it
[11:00] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> noobie: sudo <command>
[11:00] <Madpilot> noobie, you use sudo with other commands
[11:00] <irvs10tz> alright
[11:01] <gnomefreak> good morning Seveas
[11:01] <Frogzoo> !tell viller about hardware
[11:01] <ompaul> morning Seveas
[11:01] <gnomefreak> noobie: like sudo apt-get update
[11:01] <Madpilot> viller, ask google - there are some good tutorials out there
[11:01] <Frogzoo> viller: 1st - make sure your h/w is linux compatible - then just plug everything in & go...
[11:01] <meee> Madpilot: use the xp drivers?
[11:02] <KentJonathan> what is the command for update the aptget?
[11:02] <Madpilot> meee, for what?
[11:02] <noobie> thanks
[11:02] <ompaul> Seveas, having a chat with MP about the ubugtu I would leave it there for a few hours more - we have to wait on the big country beside you to log onto the interweb and see if they try again
[11:02] <Frogzoo> KentJonathan: sud apt-get update
[11:02] <viller> do I have to buy a barebone comp or can I just buy an empty box and add stuff there?
[11:02] <Frogzoo> KentJonathan: sud apt-get upgrade
[11:02] <meee> Madpilot: for the wpc11 linksys v4 drivers
[11:02] <gnomefreak> KentJonathan: sudo apt-get update updates the repos sudo apt-get upgrade updates packages on system
[11:02] <angel> jest tu jakis polak??
[11:02] <Ashly> Frogzoo, I didnt see it in the ubuntu stuff
[11:02] <gnomefreak> !pl
[11:02] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:02] <ompaul> viller, you can do it any way you want
[11:02] <Ashly> soo I added their repo
[11:02] <Ashly> and it still doesnt show up
[11:02] <Madpilot> meee, possibly - I know nothing about wireless
[11:03] <meee> at least I know where the drivers are
[11:03] <meee> now how do I install it is the next questions
[11:03] <viller> ompaul: so it's like Linux, I can build it however I want :)
[11:03] <ompaul> viller, your catching on fast :)
[11:03] <viller> ompaul: :D
[11:04] <Frogzoo> Ashly: add this repo "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" - will give you wine 0.9.9beta - see how you go - works for me, but 686
[11:04] <Madpilot> !tell meee about ndiswrapper
[11:04] <viller> I really like sun boxes looks
[11:05] <WiQert> hi
[11:05] <WiQert> how to localize ubuntu?
[11:05] <WiQert> wchch file i must edit?
[11:05] <KentJonathan> brb
[11:05] <KentJonathan> Nite..
[11:05] <ompaul> !pl
[11:05] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:06] <ompaul> WiQert, ask in there?
[11:06] <WiQert> yes yes
[11:06] <jenda> Can anyone recommend a good RPG or adventure game for Ubuntu?
[11:06] <Frogzoo> WiQert: tzconfig ?
[11:06] <zF> Hi
[11:06] <HymnToLife> what d'you mean "localize" ?
[11:07] <ompaul> Frogzoo, its a lot more than that alone, your talking language packs and keyboard and lots of other stuff
[11:07] <HymnToLife> oh
[11:07] <HymnToLife> then sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:07] <WiQert> HymnToLife i don't have polish chars in console
[11:07] <zF> Hi
[11:08] <ompaul> and there are more people in asia than anywhere else the internet will change in ways we can't imagine in the next 10 years
[11:08] <zF> Hi... If I chose to "open" a file when I click download, accidently, what temp folder is that file downloaded in
[11:09] <zF> I accidently chose to download the ubuntu.iso to install for a friend, but I accidently clicked open and it said "could not open with archieve manager" and then was never on the location I downloaded it from
[11:09] <HymnToLife> ompaul> that's what Unicode is for :p
[11:09] <noobie> can someone tell me why i cant move files
[11:09] <gnomefreak> zF: check in /tmp
[11:09] <Madpilot> zF, that's set by your browser
[11:09] <Madpilot> noobie, which files?
[11:10] <noobie> i get a error saying "You do not have permissions to write to this folder".
[11:10] <gnomefreak> zF: what version of ubuntu?
[11:10] <ompaul> HymnToLife, and is unicode used in the DNS structure?
[11:10] <Madpilot> noobie, OK - but which folder?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> noobie: use sudo
[11:10] <zF> 5.10
[11:10] <noobie> lib/hotplug/firmweare
[11:10] <takedown> !ff1.5
[11:10] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:10] <noobie> i dont know how to do move files with sudo
[11:11] <gnomefreak> zF: if you go into home than into filesystem the /tmp file is right there open it see if thats where it is
[11:11] <HymnToLife> ompaul> give it a few years and it will be
[11:11] <Ashly> Frogzoo, it ignores the repo..
[11:11] <zF> gnomefreak, no luck :(
[11:11] <ompaul> noobie, why would you want to? you could break stuff badly if you move the wrong things
[11:11] <zF> this is horrible because I don't want to completely redownload such a file
[11:11] <zF> huge file*
[11:11] <gnomefreak> zF: no luck as in?
[11:11] <zF> I'm on a wireless network and it took 4 hours.
[11:12] <noobie> i can aford it
[11:12] <zF> i went into that dir, and the file wasn't there
[11:12] <noobie> im trying to learn stuff
[11:12] <zF> what is the terminal command to search my entire filesystem for a .iso file?
[11:12] <ompaul> noobie, sudo cp X /location/.   for copy or mv to move
[11:12] <noobie> thanks
[11:12] <ompaul> noobie, I suggest you look at docs.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <gnomefreak> zF: open firefox and look in the settings and tell me where its downloading them to Desktop is normally default
[11:13] <zafar> thank you guys for your help, next question: is MC included in Ubuntu standard installation cd? if yes, how to upgrade?
[11:13] <HymnToLife> noobie> this is one good thing to learnNEVER use sudo without a good reason
[11:13] <gnomefreak> zF: look under places you will see a file search
[11:13] <gnomefreak> type in the name there and search
[11:13] <zF> Yeah, they're saved to desktop
[11:13] <zF> but it's not on my desktop
[11:13] <ompaul> !tell zafar about universe
[11:13] <Frogzoo> Ashly: mebbe there's no a64 binary? soz - it was an outside chance
[11:13] <meinaeiner> hi all.  I need for compiling saprfc.h. dcc please
[11:14] <ompaul> zafar, it is there but you have to enable universe - check the message from the bot
[11:14] <fly-away> hiall
[11:14] <Frogzoo> Ashly: yup, 386 only :(
[11:14] <Ashly> It doesnt even want to compile from source
[11:15] <ompaul> meinaeiner, it does not exist in ubuntu where is it from ?
[11:15] <fly-away> in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/ present firefox_1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.1-1ubuntu5_amd64.deb, but when i do apt-get update && apt-cache search firefox - it give me old 1.0.7 only
[11:15] <Frogzoo> Ashly: many peeps have probs with wine on a64
[11:15] <ompaul> meinaeiner, if you want compile tools,  >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<<
[11:15] <fly-away> wtf?
[11:16] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with thunderbird on breezy, i cannot see my rss feeds anymore
[11:16] <gnomefreak> fly-away: are you on breezy or dapper?
[11:16] <fly-away> breezy
[11:16] <ompaul> !tell fly-away about ff1.5
[11:16] <ompaul> fly-away, that is why the firefox am I correct, cos I know you don't use bad language :)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> fly-away: you can not apt-get ff1.5
[11:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fly-away about ff1.5
[11:17] <fly-away> gnomefreak, 1.5 only fot dapper?
[11:17] <fly-away> for*
[11:17] <Wood> hi, how can install cinelerra
[11:17] <gnomefreak> fly-away: yes if you read the pm you got from ubotu it explains how to install ff1.5 on breezy
[11:18] <ompaul> gnomefreak, the two messages fly-away got :)
[11:18] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul i running a lil late today
[11:18] <gnomefreak> he didnt get mine :(
[11:18] <ompaul> ahhh
[11:18] <meinaeiner> ompaul: essentials (and more) installed. file is not in available for public.
[11:18] <fly-away> add deb http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  dapper main restricted in sources.list help me?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> no fly
[11:18] <fly-away> why? :(
[11:18] <gnomefreak> dont add dapper sources to breezy
[11:19] <ompaul> meinaeiner, that lib you are talking about is not on Ubuntu - I don't know where you got it from
[11:19] <gnomefreak> fly-away: its a surte fire way to screw your system up
[11:19] <fly-away> (:
[11:19] <gnomefreak> fly-away: install it as the wiki says takes all of 10 mins
[11:19] <AndyR> anyone else having msn messenger issues?
[11:19] <zafar> est' russkie?
[11:19] <fly-away> gnomefreak, install in /opt by hand.... not unix-way
[11:20] <fly-away> suxx-way
[11:20] <fly-away> zafar, /j #ubuntu-ru
[11:20] <ompaul> AndyR, gaim for that on Ubuntu
[11:21] <cppnewbie> cant access my ntfs disk, says its protected, what do i do to access it? last time somebody told me how to do it but after a reboot it was back again, i could access sda1
[11:21] <gnomefreak> fly-away: if your going to do i would read the wiki for 1 reason you have to run 1.0.7 side by side with 1.5 in breezy
[11:22] <ompaul> fly-away, have a read of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic it might help explain what your doing to some level but you seem to be clueful enough at some level
[11:22] <fly-away> so, gaim not always load list of online users in my jabber servers...
[11:22] <fly-away> thx, i read in now )
[11:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:22] <ompaul> with his super l33t editing mind in hand or head
[11:25] <Madpilot> ompaul, interesting idea - I'll take a better look tomorrow
[11:25] <ompaul> Madpilot, :)
[11:25] <cppnewbie> wtf, all the changes i did last time rnt there
[11:26] <cppnewbie> i installed the shockwave flash player and now it asks me for the flash player again
[11:26] <leanwithit> ok. i painted something using Tux Paint, do you know where it saved the thing ive painted?
[11:26] <Seveas> leanwithit, ~/.tuxpaint/
[11:26] <leanwithit> located where?
[11:26] <cppnewbie> and something else in the same way happened recently
[11:27] <Seveas> leanwithit, ~ is your homedir...
[11:27] <Madpilot> leanwithit, Ctrl+H to view hidden files
[11:27] <leanwithit> yeah
[11:27] <leanwithit> i see it
[11:27] <cppnewbie> why does this happen? like they were temporary or something
[11:27] <cppnewbie> why rnt they saved right now
[11:28] <gnomefreak> now he tells me ctrl+H works ive been using view than hidden files :(
[11:28] <Frogzoo> cppnewbie: did you save your changes before exiting?
[11:28] <cppnewbie> i think so. how do i figure it out? :S
[11:29] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, the keyboard shortcut is right beside the menu entry :P
[11:29] <gnomefreak> oh i never noticed that
[11:29] <Madpilot> all the keyboard shortcuts are listed on the menus, actually
[11:30] <Frogzoo> cppnewbie: oh, ntfs file systems are read only usually - are you using ntfs r/w ?
[11:30] <cppnewbie> whats r/w? :P
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ty Madpilot i just looked i cant believe i missed them
[11:30] <gnomefreak> read/write
[11:30] <cppnewbie> ah
[11:30] <ompaul> cppnewbie, read write
[11:30] <cppnewbie> yea of course
[11:30] <Frogzoo> cppnewbie: read write - there are ways to get ntfs to do r/w but not out of the box
[11:30] <Frogzoo> cppnewbie: plus, it's experimental only
[11:30] <cppnewbie> although when i try to access it it says access denied
[11:30] <ompaul> Frogzoo, well the thing is that on the 20th april it should be okay
[11:31] <Frogzoo> cppnewbie: ie you may run into probs
[11:31] <cppnewbie> thats mostly my prob
[11:31] <cppnewbie> happens all the time
[11:31] <HymnToLife> and risks of losing the whole partition are quite high
[11:31] <HymnToLife> long story short : do NOT use it
[11:31] <captainredbeard> where can I get libglib2 version 2.9.3
[11:31] <cppnewbie> someone told me something yesterday to unmount it and remount it and it worked
[11:31] <cppnewbie> but today same thing happened, i couldnt access it
[11:33] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: well, there's Paragon's solution - which supposedly works...
[11:33] <HymnToLife> supposedly...
[11:33] <cppnewbie> so why rnt my settings stiill there? i need to reinstall flashplayer-installer now? and i just removed it :'(
[11:34] <HymnToLife> I don't trust things that are "supposed" to work
[11:34] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: but remember that people said the same of samba way back
[11:34] <Frogzoo> cppnewbie: path of least pain - move your data to ext3
[11:35] <HymnToLife> do people atually use samba ?
[11:35] <fly-away> HymnToLife, i do
[11:35] <HymnToLife> damn, that's frightening :p
[11:35] <cppnewbie> whadda u mean move my data to ext3? :S
[11:35] <ompaul> HymnToLife, it appears it is hugely popular
[11:35] <HymnToLife> yeah just kidding :p
[11:36] <HymnToLife> but still I have only heard bad things about NTFS writing
[11:36] <HymnToLife> so I would'nt risk it
[11:36] <cppnewbie> well to be honest i dont actually care about writing to it
[11:36] <cppnewbie> as much as taking files from it
[11:37] <HymnToLife> hae you read !ntfs ?
[11:37] <HymnToLife> have*
[11:37] <cppnewbie> i dont remember lol :P
[11:37] <cppnewbie> !ntfs
[11:37] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:38] <fly-away> rrrr.... do anybody use imglikeopera or other plugins for ff to disable images?
[11:38] <HymnToLife> doesn't FF have a builtin feature to block images ?
[11:38] <blazemonger> mm
[11:39] <blazemonger> im stuck trying to compile svgalib
[11:39] <GigaClon> yeah
[11:39] <Frogzoo> yes - just disable images in ff setttings
[11:39] <fly-away> HymnToLife, have, but its suxx, espetially after using opera
[11:39] <fly-away> :)
[11:39] <blazemonger> anoyone ever have trouble compilng sources?
[11:39] <Madpilot> fly-away, so install Opera in Ubuntu
[11:39] <Madpilot> !tell fly-away about opera
[11:39] <HymnToLife> blazemonger> what problems exactly ?
[11:39] <Frogzoo> or better yet, install 'imagepref' extension
[11:40] <blazemonger> hYm:svgalib won't compile
[11:40] <fly-away> Madpilot, now ff with tab mix plus like me more )
[11:40] <HymnToLife> I got that
[11:40] <Frogzoo> fly-away: or better yet, install 'imagepref' extension
[11:40] <HymnToLife> but what XACTLY is the problem
[11:40] <blazemonger> i downloaded it from svgalib.org and the only thing the docs say is make install
[11:40] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: what part is it failing on?
[11:40] <HymnToLife> error message or what ?
[11:40] <fly-away> and ff have build for amd64, opera navent
[11:40] <fly-away> havent*
[11:40] <blazemonger> /home/blazemonger/source/svgalib-1.4.3/src/vga.c:3926:1: error: pasting "." and "VTotal" does not give a valid preprocessing token
[11:41] <blazemonger> i'm thinking it doesnt like newer compilers
[11:43] <axisys> .quit
[11:43] <blazemonger> gnomefreak, :how good is your C++?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[11:43] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: what do you mean how good is it?
[11:43] <dontknow> anyone installed tor in ubuntu?
[11:43] <blazemonger> yah
[11:43] <gnomefreak> how good am i at coding in it?
[11:43] <Frogzoo> blazemonger: so try setting 'CC=gcc-3.4'
[11:44] <gnomefreak> im so so
[11:44] <fly-away> what is it, breezy-proposed?
[11:44] <Frogzoo> !dapper
[11:44] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[11:45] <blazemonger> gnomefreak, no luck
[11:45] <fly-away> Frogzoo, breezy-proposed=dapper?
[11:45] <blazemonger> ubotu, : 4.20 lol
[11:45] <ubotu> blazemonger: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:45] <gnomefreak> no luck with what?
[11:46] <fly-away> ! breezy-proposed
[11:46] <ubotu> fly-away: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:46] <leanwithit> is there any speech recognition or text-to-speech apps for nix?
[11:46] <fly-away> !breezy-proposed
[11:46] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fly-away
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fly-away about bot
[11:46] <blazemonger> no luck i've e-mailed the author of svgalib
[11:46] <fly-away> leanwithit, festival
[11:46] <davide> I have some problems with a wifi card. It's a d-link 650+. I have read the how to-guide but it seems it doesn't work. Anybody can help me?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:47] <Hobbsee> !wireless
[11:47] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:47] <blazemonger> gnomefreak, :what do you think the prob could be?
[11:47] <Hobbsee> davide: is it on that list?
[11:47] <davide> I don't know..
[11:47] <davide> yes it's in the list
[11:47] <Hobbsee> what's it say next to it?  use ndiswrapper?
[11:48] <gears> blazemonger, how many versions of gcc do you currently have on your system?
[11:48] <blazemonger> i have all of the versions
[11:48] <blazemonger> including gcc 2.95
[11:48] <blazemonger> gears:would you like to try compiling it?
[11:48] <leanwithit> what's the diff between dev and the orig one?
[11:49] <Frogzoo> fly-away: me wonders if there is such a thing as breezy-proposed - with dapper release looming
[11:49] <davide> it should be easy to detect but the led is still off
[11:50] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: run gcc -version see what version you are using
[11:50] <davide> the firmware is ok
[11:50] <leanwithit> damn, i can use openoffice to export MS powerpoint
[11:50] <leanwithit> how nice
[11:50] <blazemonger> 4.02
[11:50] <takedown> Anyone know whats means proposed repo?
[11:50] <blazemonger> i tried using CC=gcc-3.4 it still gave me version 4.02
[11:51] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: what version do you need
[11:51] <blazemonger> none of them
[11:51] <blazemonger> i'm just trying to compile svgalib
[11:51] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: isnt the command export CC=gcc-3.4?
[11:51] <gears> blazemonger, setting a variable is useless unless your export it
[11:51] <ompaul> !wireless
[11:51] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[11:51] <blazemonger> supposed tobe
[11:51] <takedown> !proposed
[11:51] <ubotu> takedown: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:52] <ompaul> takedown, .. what are you looking for?
[11:52] <gears> blazemonger, try CC=gcc-3.4 then: export CC
[11:52] <takedown> do u know what proposed repos means?
[11:52] <gears> and do a make clean before recompiling
[11:52] <blazemonger> trieddidnt work
[11:52] <leanwithit> so that means i can open .ppt too, you think?
[11:52] <leanwithit> which is MS powerpoint?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> leanwithit: yes
[11:52] <leanwithit> nice
[11:53] <ompaul> takedown, where are you reading this, context might help me help you
[11:53] <leanwithit> gotta love this shit
[11:53] <leanwithit> -shit
[11:53] <leanwithit> +stuff
[11:53] <hyperstream> gnomefreak: well xgl runs very nicely on amd 64 didnt even require to chroot
[11:53] <gears> blazemonger, read the README file
[11:53] <ompaul> leanwithit, ojhhhhh once bad twice ....
[11:53] <gnomefreak> leanwithit: read lil bit on it at www.openoffice.org
[11:53] <gnomefreak> hyperstream: im glad  do me a favore and open synaptic for me
[11:53] <leanwithit> what you mean
[11:53] <blazemonger> i have read the README
[11:53] <hyperstream> its open.
[11:53] <takedown> ompaul: just in archive add new dir called $distro-name-proposed, i want to know what is that?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmmm
[11:54] <hyperstream> now ?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> hyperstream: when you go backt o normal try it please
[11:54] <gears> what's error message?
[11:54] <hyperstream> you mean a non compiz session?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> hyperstream: yes
[11:54] <hyperstream> ahh ok
[11:54] <hyperstream> brb sir
[11:54] <gnomefreak> hb
[11:54] <davide> is there a guide to configure a dlink 650+ card?
[11:55] <ompaul> takedown, ahh it is for the new version you are building, so takedownlinux
[11:55] <blazemonger> /home/blazemonger/source/svgalib-1.4.3/src/vga.c:3926:1: pasting "." and "VTotal" does not give a valid preprocessing token
[11:55] <afd_> hi! I'm using the latest Dapper and I removed the datetime applet from the top toolbar, I can't get it back, it's not in the Add Applet window. What can I do to get it back?
[11:55] <leanwithit> gnomefreak, what you mean ojhhhhh once bad twice .... ?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> leanwithit: when did i say that?
[11:56] <leanwithit> ompaul leanwithit, ojhhhhh once bad twice ....
[11:56] <blazemonger> the errors are in lines 3919 through 3926
[11:56] <hyperstream> ok now what sir?
[11:56] <leanwithit> oh
[11:56] <leanwithit> nvm
[11:56] <leanwithit> lol
[11:56] <leanwithit> it was ompaul
[11:56] <hyperstream> you wanna test something in synaptic ?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> afd_: try #ubuntu+1
[11:56] <ompaul> leanwithit, it was me - once as in the first time that was bad then you compound it with the "-" while I understand  would be better not to
[11:56] <Stormx2> how do I send a script to background... like... im using it as a startup program in gnome, and its meant to act as a server, but if I put it in the startup programs, it halts gnome loading cause its waiting for the script to finish
[11:56] <gnomefreak> hyperstream: i wanna see if you can open it
[11:56] <afd_> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:56] <gnomefreak> yw afd_
[11:56] <leanwithit> oh
[11:56] <leanwithit> lol
[11:56] <hyperstream> gnomefreak:  yes it is open
[11:56] <leanwithit> ic
[11:56] <ompaul> !enter
[11:56] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:56] <gnomefreak> ok sorry
[11:56] <blazemonger> gnomefreak, :mm..yoju think it's probably a bug in the source?
[11:56] <hyperstream> thats all ?!
[11:57] <hyperstream> oo i take it you had issues with that part of xgl
[11:57] <hyperstream> nvm i just clicked hehe
[11:57] <gnomefreak> hyperstream: yes it borked my synaptic passwords
[11:57] <hyperstream> oo
[11:57] <hyperstream> ouch :x
[11:57] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[11:57] <hyperstream> let me relogin to compiz session
[11:57] <hyperstream> brb
[11:57] <hyperstream> freenode.net takes so long to login too :(
[11:57] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: im not sure (kind of wondering why you are compiling just a lib
[11:57] <linuxboyfriend> can anyone tell how can I configure java plugins for firefox, I have installed j2re1.4
[11:58] <gears> blazemonger, give me the link to that software's download page
[11:58] <Fable> evryday im waitin for DRAPPER
[11:58] <xerox> Hi.
[11:58] <Fable> \takin too long
[11:58] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:58] <Fable> :(
[11:58] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[11:58] <Fable> same thing
[11:58] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:58] <blazemonger> svgalib.org
[11:58] <Hobbsee> Fable: why not upgrade then - it might break a bit (or a lot), but you'll have some fun
[11:58] <blazemonger> i have a prog that depends on it
[11:59] <Fable> nah
[11:59] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: ok, lemme check this command :)
[11:59] <Fable> ill wait
[11:59] <Fable> i need to format
[11:59] <blazemonger> dependencies are annoying
[11:59] <Fable> but i dont see the point of doin it with breezy and gettin it all set up then formatin again wen dappr comes out
[11:59] <aroticoz> How can install a .deb file. Specificly I'm talking about Skype
[11:59] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: its in the repos
[11:59] <blazemonger> like in aptitude theres all kinds of packages that conflict with eachother that shouldnt conflict
[11:59] <Demigod> anyone knows why i got this msg? "root@linux:/# sudo tc qdisc del dev eth0 root
[11:59] <Demigod> RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory
[11:59] <ompaul>  /usr/share/doc/svgalib
[11:59] <blazemonger> theres some parts that aren't compiled
[12:00] <bimberi> !deb
[12:00] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[12:00] <Stormx2> aroticoz: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:00] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: ok, i have done this, now! how can I make my firefox know that java is installed?
[12:00] <blazemonger> it's given me dependencie errors when i tried installing from package
[12:00] <blazemonger> (like conflicts)
[12:00] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: need output of java -version
[12:00] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: paste your sources.list to pastebin please
[12:01] <dibella> hi
[12:01] <G0SUB> blazemonger which package?
[12:01] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: java version "1.4.2-02"
[12:01] <blazemonger> to pastebin?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: your ff should use that version
[12:01] <G0SUB> blazemonger yes ... pastebin.com
[12:01] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[12:01] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[12:01] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: do i have to make symlinks in the plugins dir of firefox to the plugins of java
[12:01] <coolsail> how to update firefox ?
[12:01] <blazemonger> it's the default sources.list
[12:02] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: i never had to
[12:02] <aroticoz> it can't install
[12:02] <G0SUB> blazemonger which package is it?
[12:02] <bimberi> ubotu tell coolsail about ff1.5
[12:02] <aroticoz> gives me errors
[12:02] <blazemonger> svgalib
[12:02] <richard_> blazemonger, do you have it?
[12:02] <blazemonger> i also get conflicts on alot of other packages im wanting to install
[12:02] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: also the package name i found was libsvg1
[12:02] <blazemonger> i cant find a way to force them
[12:02] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: hmm, i think now i have to restart firefox, am i right?
[12:02] <coolsail> how to update firefox to 1.5?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: yes
[12:02] <richard_> blazemonger, give the link to the download page
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell coolsail about ff1.5
[12:02] <blazemonger> http://www.svgalib.org
[12:02] <kemik> !postgresql
[12:02] <ubotu> kemik: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:03] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: ok, thanks a lot :) and tc
[12:03] <gnomefreak> you too
[12:03] <mez_> how can i make a cannon i320 or a lexmark 2300 work in ubuntu 5.10 is it possible or am i wasting my time ?
[12:03] <blazemonger> like when i tried to install one package i had to deinstall alot of gnome files
[12:03] <blazemonger> and i was like wtf
[12:03] <redblade> Hi
[12:04] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: please paste your sources.list file on pastebin
[12:04] <captainredbeard> where can I get SVG images?
[12:04] <redblade> I was thinking about putting KDE on ubuntu, is it possible?
[12:04] <redblade> !KDE
[12:04] <ubotu> methinks kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:04] <andi> @mez_ http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[12:04] <redblade> !Gnome
[12:04] <gnomefreak> redblade: yes sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <redblade> Cool
[12:04] <redblade> Is it better than Gnome?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> redblade: i cant answer that thats an opion
[12:05] <andi> redblade: depends on your preferences
[12:05] <cppnewbie> strange
[12:05] <gnomefreak> opinion
[12:05] <cppnewbie> i just apt-get install kde lol :P
[12:05] <redblade> do you thing it is Gnomefreak? Oh wait witha name like that...
[12:05] <Demigod> KDE more friendly
[12:05] <andi> redblade: gnome is smaller but also has fewer features, kde is heavier, has way more configuration options
[12:05] <gnomefreak> redblade: i perfer xfce
[12:05] <blazemonger> wyup it is redblade
[12:05] <afd_> anyone using laptops with ubuntu? What do I need to do to get the best behaviour from it (I have a compaq nx6125 turion). Right now, the fan is spining, which shouldn't do (in windows it doesn't)
[12:05] <aroticoz> where can I find libqt3c102-mt ?
[12:05] <andi> redblade: ppl keep saying mac ppl prefer gnome, windows ppl kde
[12:06] <blazemonger> but beware for conflicts though
[12:06] <blazemonger> i prefer blackbox
[12:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell mez_ about printing
[12:06] <andi> aroticoz: nowhere
[12:06] <gnomefreak> !libqt3c
[12:06] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gnomefreak
[12:06] <HymnToLife> that's bs andi
[12:06] <blazemonger> posted it
[12:06] <richard_> blazemonger, are you compiling as root?
[12:06] <aroticoz> so how do I install it them ?
[12:06] <blazemonger> yup
[12:06] <andi> well ok, but i didnt need it for skype ;)
[12:06] <blazemonger> its theonly way you can with svgalib
[12:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell aroticoz about skype
[12:06] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: no, firefox is still requiring java plugins :(
[12:06] <blazemonger> for some reason
[12:06] <leanwithit> anyone know how that 'festival' thing works?
[12:06] <blazemonger> maybe the guy didn't know how to code too well
[12:06] <richard_> i know, i just read it
[12:06] <HymnToLife> aroticoz> install what ?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> aroticoz:  i think its now knows as libqt3-mt but you can run apt-cache search libqt3
[12:07] <blazemonger> why cant every coder just use autoconf
[12:07] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: did you follow the wiki at all?
[12:07] <bimberi> aroticoz: the 'Breezy deb' mentioned in that ubotu factoid doesn't have that dependency issue
[12:08] <dontknow> how do i now if i use hoary or breezy?
[12:08] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i did not follow wiki, i just downloaded java and i was trying to find the plugins dir of java but could not find it
[12:08] <blazemonger> theres also some glade libraries i want to install but due to conflicts i cant so i have to compile them from source
[12:08] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: /configure isnt auto enough for you?
[12:08] <bimberi> dontknow: lsb_release -a (in a terminal)
[12:08] <blazemonger> svgalib doesnt have a configure file
[12:08] <dontknow> bimberi: thanks a lot
[12:08] <gnomefreak> blazemonger: i really think your sources.list is mixed
[12:08] <bimberi> dontknow: np :)
[12:08] <blazemonger> it's the one that came with breezy
[12:09] <G0SUB> dontknow /cat /etc/lsb-release
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bimberi about version
[12:09] <gnomefreak>  :)
[12:09] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: will you tell me the wiki address
[12:09] <bimberi> gnomefreak: thanks :)
[12:09] <gnomefreak> !java
[12:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bimberi: yw i had a hard time remebering it so i added it to ubotu
[12:10] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:10] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: yw
[12:10] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: thats new thing i saw in #ubuntu, i wanna ask that if someone do !sex then what ubotu will do :D
[12:11] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: someone got a ban for that
[12:11] <gnomefreak> or almost atleast
[12:11] <blazemonger> gnomefreak, :figured any solutions?
[12:11] <blazemonger> eh
[12:12] <HymnToLife> linuxboyfriend> you can /query ubotu to play with it
[12:12] <redblade> So is KDE just a style or does it work differently?
[12:12] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: so ubotu does not know anything !s*x :)
[12:12] <linuxboyfriend> HymnToLife: no i was just joking
[12:12] <ompaul> linuxboyfriend, if you want to leave the channel and not get back in work away - that not a threat a promise
[12:12] <poningru> redblade: it works differently
[12:13] <ompaul> the factoid will last about 10 minutes
[12:13] <redblade> I assume the repos are still there though?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: no and it wont
[12:13] <vladuz976> anybody know a good free pop3 email?
[12:13] <poningru> redblade: all the programs that work in gnome will work in kde
[12:13] <aroticoz> on the site there is a command alien
[12:13] <poningru> vladuz976: gmail
[12:13] <aroticoz> and it tells me I don't have it
[12:13] <gnomefreak> redblade: it works the same just different lay-out and names of packages are different
[12:13] <aroticoz> :O
[12:13] <redblade> And most importantly, can it be reversed?
[12:13] <vladuz976> poningru: no everybody has that
[12:14] <gnomefreak> redblade: works the same way you need a terminal you look in menus for it
[12:14] <gnomefreak> redblade: yes it can
[12:14] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: what it will be the fun if ubotu know about real life goodies ;)
[12:14] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: no ubuntu is not a toy
[12:15] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:15] <munzir> hi, aptitude list the package preceded by a letter like (p, i, v, ...) what those p and v stands for?
[12:15] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: wiki is saying that the easiest method to sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 but its not working
[12:15] <blazemonger> gnomefreak, :do you think it could be a case of crap code?
[12:16] <leanwithit> how do you use this 'festival' text-to-speech thing?
[12:17] <richard_> blazemonger, do you have vgagl
[12:17] <richard_>  installed?
[12:17] <bimberi> linuxboyfriend: do you have multiverse enabled?
[12:17] <Almindor> which repository has vmware player?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell linuxboyfriend about javadebs
[12:17] <linuxboyfriend> bimberi: yes and i have already installed j2re1.4
[12:17] <blazemonger> dont have vgagl
[12:18] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: hmm, lets c it also :)
[12:18] <redblade> well I think once I do the dual boot , I'll try it out
[12:18] <blazemonger> i have it in the source
[12:19] <richard_> i think you might need that
[12:19] <blazemonger> it's in svgalib src directory
[12:19] <blazemonger> i'm having a nightmare with just this one lib..
[12:20] <afd_> What package do I need to get to be able to compile something? I get this when running make: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/include/limits.h:122:61: error: limits.h: No such file or directory
[12:20] <bina> how do I allow my account (harry) to do everything in swat?
[12:20] <bimberi> !b-e
[12:20] <ubotu> somebody said b-e was no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[12:20] <bina> at the moment it will only let me view the status and change my password
[12:21] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: read the page on java look under neth the instructions
[12:22] <blazemonger> where do iget vgagl at?
[12:22] <gnomefreak> afd_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:23] <afd_> gnomefreak: thanks, didn't knew about this
[12:24] <bimberi> !find vgagl
[12:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'vgagl' (2 shown): (/usr/include/vgagl.h, /usr/lib/{libvgagl.a|libvgagl.so}) in universe/libdevel/libsvga1-dev ;; (/usr/lib/{libvgagl.so.1|libvgagl.so.1.4.3}) in universe/libs/libsvga1,universe/libs/svgalib1-libggi2.
[12:26] <blazemonger> i'm giving up on this
[12:27] <blazemonger> dont have those
[12:27] <blazemonger> wierd
[12:27] <blazemonger> i just forced svgalib to install
[12:27] <blazemonger> and it didnti nstall vgagl.h
[12:28] <Stormx2> offtopic: Whats a better name for a tinyurl.com sort of service, link or tiny?
[12:28] <bimberi> blazemonger: the ubuntu package is libsvagl-dev and is in the universe repository
[12:28] <leanwithit> how do you make this 'festival' thing work?
[12:29] <Stormx2> leanwithit: check the man page
[12:29] <Spliffster> how stable is dapper ?
[12:29] <Stormx2> leanwithit: man festival
[12:29] <blazemonger> man i'm having all kidns of conflicts trying to install these packages
[12:29] <blazemonger> i've never had conflicts on slackware
[12:29] <Stormx2> blazemonger: What package?
[12:30] <blazemonger> svgalib and allegro with the svglib extentions
[12:30] <bina> Hi, i'm using breezy and can access my network, the router has my mac and IP in the ARP tables on it, so I assume it knows I'm here. However, when I get another computer to try to access mine its as if it doesnt exist.  Is there something I need to do to allow others to read this computer?
[12:30] <Ashly> Where on the wiki does it explain how to setup a chroot (soo I can install 32bit apps)?
[12:30] <Stormx2> blazemonger: Installed from the repos?
[12:30] <blazemonger> yup
[12:30] <richard_> blazemonger, install it using apt
[12:30] <blazemonger> it gives me optionsl ike svgalib has to be deinstalled
[12:30] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: ok, i am downloading that file, as i am on dialup so i will take some time
[12:30] <Stormx2> blazemonger: Wow, you should report that, providing your sources.list is somewhat standard
[12:30] <Spliffster> bina: do you have multiple NICS (routing?), firewall enabled ?
[12:30] <richard_> which means you have it installed
[12:31] <blazemonger> there's like a billion different packages i tried to instal andi  hadt o uninstalla lot of gnome packages
[12:31] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: mean while will you tell me some other thing?
[12:31] <Stormx2> blazemonger: Dude, i thought you meant broken dependancies
[12:31] <Stormx2> blazemonger: If it conflicts, it conflicts. Deal with it.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: what?
[12:31] <blazemonger> how do i get to run the app then?
[12:31] <richard_> blazemonger, you don't have svgalib installed from the repos?
[12:31] <bina> Spliffster: Yeah, I believe so, I took my firewall down quickly just to see whether that was it but it still didnt work
[12:31] <blazemonger> i do now
[12:31] <Spliffster> yo, can some one tell me how stable the current development release is ?
[12:31] <Stormx2> Spliffster: Not sure
[12:31] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/ plz check this site, my browser is not displaying the fonts of this site properly
[12:31] <richard_> blazemonger, is it working?
[12:31] <blazemonger> i just cant get allegrao lib installed the one wth the svgalib extentions.when i try it it deinstalls svgalib
[12:31] <Stormx2> Spliffster: But, it ust be *fairly* stable
[12:32] <blazemonger> not yet
[12:32] <Stormx2> Spliffster: Cause its released in 2 weeks or so
[12:32] <Spliffster> Stormx2: ok, ty
[12:32] <blazemonger> i've tried even forcing it
[12:32] <Spliffster> so it oughta be stable enough for my taste
[12:32] <blazemonger> and forcing it didnt work..
[12:32] <bina> Spliffster: All of the other computers can be seen (pinged), but theyre all running windows, so i was thinking it may be some setting I have wrong on here
[12:32] <Spliffster> bina: check the routing
[12:33] <Spliffster> bina: do you have multiple network inferfaces enabled ?
[12:33] <richard_> blazemonger, when you install allegrao it deinstalls svgalib?
[12:33] <Stormx2> guys, link.cc or tiny.cc?
[12:33] <blazemonger> yup richard
[12:33] <bina> Spliffster: not on this comp I dont, if thats what you mean.  Basically, for this comp it goes Me -> Bridge -> Router
[12:33] <blazemonger> it does
[12:33] <Spliffster> bina: it souds like you can reach them but packets never get bac to you
[12:33] <blazemonger> same with the ggi svgalib extentions
[12:33] <Spliffster> bina: or at least they are not accepted
[12:34] <blazemonger> youd think it wouldnt conflict
[12:34] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: sorry i had to go, we will talk later
[12:34] <blazemonger> hare there any linux distros that are made for developers only?
[12:34] <bina> Spliffster: oh right.  hmm if I run TCP Dump or something should I be able to see them then?
[12:34] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: then then bye
[12:34] <Stormx2> blazemonger: Depends what you programme in
[12:34] <Spliffster> bina: yes
[12:34] <richard_> try this: dpkg --get-selections |grep -i *svga*
[12:34] <blazemonger> asm and c++
[12:35] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: mean while http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html this is a good article to read :)
[12:35] <blazemonger> using older libs and newer libs
[12:35] <nalioth> and we bounce on and on
[12:35] <richard_> do that before trying to install allegrao
[12:35] <richard_> blazemonger what is the output?
[12:35] <Spliffster> bina: you might also use etherreal (for easier analyzing of tcpdum output) and etherape for a graphical view of your network and traffic
[12:35] <eastgroup> hello
[12:36] <blazemonger> no output
[12:36] <eastgroup> how i can transfer files from ftp server to ftp server ?
[12:36] <bina> Spliffster: nice, thanks.  I'll take a look
[12:36] <richard_> do you currently have svgalib installed?
[12:36] <Spliffster> eastgroup: in gnome: connect to server, select ftp
[12:36] <[Leo] > hai all!
[12:36] <Spliffster> eastgroup: in nautilus i mean as long as u are using gnome
[12:37] <blazemonger> im giving up on this
[12:37] <richard_> dpkg --get-selections |grep svga
[12:37] <richard_> no wait a sec
[12:37] <eastgroup> yes
[12:37] <richard_> i think i can make a forced install
[12:37] <blazemonger> im going to try to compile rosegarden since the version of rosegardenthats in the repositories doesn't work too well
[12:38] <ompaul> HymnToLife, I am thinking of killing noone and replacing it with the new version of attitude please check it out
[12:38] <richard_> blazemonger, wait a second
[12:38] <richard_> what's the output from the latest command i told you to run
[12:38] <Spliffster> is ther an iso available for dapper or can i just change my apt-sources and update all packages ?
[12:38] <blazemonger> richard_, :its not gonna compile
[12:38] <max300> how do I install the p4v88+ drivers?
[12:38] <blazemonger> there was no output
[12:38] <eastgroup> i just want copy files from ftp to ftp
[12:39] <richard_> i know but maybe i can get allegrao and svglaib working
[12:39] <bimberi> Spliffster: both
[12:39] <richard_> without having one to unstall the other
[12:39] <eastgroup> is there a client enable it
[12:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell spliffster about getdapper
[12:39] <ompaul> !tell blazemonger about distro logic
[12:39] <ompaul> !tell blazemonger about distrologic
[12:39] <Spliffster> eastgroup: open a terminal, then type $ ftp local/file user@host/path/there
[12:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell spliffster about upgrade
[12:39] <richard_> ok nevermind
[12:39] <richard_> goodluck compiling
[12:40] <bina> Spliffster: woo, its working now... not quite sure what i did though :)
[12:40] <ompaul> Spliffster, if you want to talk about dapper and how it works please go to #ubuntu+1
[12:40] <Spliffster> thanx guys for the dapper infos
[12:40] <Spliffster> ompaul: ok
[12:40] <max300> i need to install the pentium 4 drivers
[12:41] <papa_lic> damn
[12:41] <papa_lic> I hate win
[12:41] <eastgroup> no i need GUI client
[12:41] <papa_lic> its defragmenting already for 2 hours
[12:41] <papa_lic> 45 gb
[12:41] <eastgroup> GUI client to copy ftp to ftp
[12:42] <ompaul> papa_lic, so do you have a question for #ubuntu the Ubuntu  help channel? chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic or talk to the company that makes that software about it
[12:42] <chaumurky> hello all.
[12:42] <blazemonger> richard:its not gona help me out is it? on properly having a full svgalib lib installed
[12:43] <JoshT> Hey.  Does anyone know why the DNS lookup process of connecting to a server is taking up to around 60 seconds to happen?
[12:43] <ompaul> HymnToLife, what did you think of that?
[12:43] <max300> pentium 4 drivers????
[12:44] <GigaClon> pentium 4 drivers?
[12:44] <blazemonger> btw is there a way to go around conflicts?
[12:44] <GigaClon> last time I looked CPUs didn't require drivers
[12:44] <blazemonger> i tried instaling all of the gnome development tools and some of them had conflictsw and i' like what am i todo or a complete compile system
[12:44] <Seveas> JoshT: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[12:44] <max300> well i dont have audio
[12:44] <max300> on linux
[12:44] <chaumurky> can anyone direct me as to how I can remove a rouge panel item that's actually stopping the panel from loading - i.e. I can't right click on it?
[12:44] <JoshT> GigaClon, could be talking about motherboard drivers perhaps...?
[12:45] <max300> yea
[12:45] <HymnToLife> about what ompaul ?
[12:45] <max300> mother baord
[12:45] <ompaul> HymnToLife, may I msg u?
[12:45] <blazemonger> would dapper be good for me for my use(development) im needing a complete development distro
[12:45] <JoshT> Sevea, thanks.  I'll try that now. :)
[12:45] <GigaClon> blazemonger, dapper is in development
[12:45] <GigaClon> not a development distro
[12:46] <max300> i need to install asrock drivers onlinux
[12:46] <JoshT> Seveas, Where can I find it?  Can I get to it from the actual program or is it a script?
[12:46] <blazemonger> GigaByte_, :does it come witha complete compile system?
[12:46] <blazemonger> for compiling anything i might come across
[12:46] <chaumurky> what is the command to start the system monitor please?
[12:47] <Seveas> JoshT, type about:config in the url bar...
[12:47] <bimberi> chaumurky: gnome-system-monitor
[12:47] <chaumurky> ta.
[12:47] <ineti> hi
[12:47] <JoshT> Ahh thatnks
[12:47] <eastgroup> is gnome-system-monitor like taskmanager
[12:48] <ompaul> blazemonger, 5.10 has the compiler just install >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< that will give you what you need
[12:48] <ineti> my kde fonts in kde look horrible, in gnome everythin looks good, what package should i install?
[12:48] <HymnToLife> [12:45]  ompaul HymnToLife, may I msg u? <= sure
[12:48] <ompaul> gnome
[12:48] <chaumurky> @eastgroup, yes
[12:48] <GigaClon> search for gtk-qt
[12:48] <chaumurky> haha, ok, how do you kill the gnome-panel and not have it restart?
[12:48] <GigaClon> ineti
[12:49] <blazemonger> ompaul, :obviously it didnt because it wont even compile svgalib
[12:49] <GigaClon> I think that is what you are looking for
[12:49] <blazemonger> or half the stuf ive tried to get off sourceforge.net
[12:49] <ineti> gigaclon: thx
[12:50] <ompaul> blazemonger, compiling is not for the feint hearted
[12:50] <leanwithit> how do you untar a .tar ? tar -xzv blah.tar ?
[12:50] <JoshT> Seveas, Thanks very much.  That seems to have made things much more instant.
[12:50] <blazemonger> i've done it before in other distros
[12:50] <Frogzoo> leanwithit: tar xf xx.tar
[12:50] <JoshT> Is there a more @global@ way of disabling IPV6?
[12:50] <blazemonger> like slack
[12:50] <Frogzoo> leanwithit: the -z flag's for compressed tars
[12:50] <quad_> Is it not possible to use the Remote Desktop feature from other WMs that GNOME?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell leanwithit about tar
[12:50] <leanwithit> oh yeah
[12:50] <GigaClon> you can do it from the filemanager too
[12:50] <quad_> i cant find it in XFCE for one...
[12:51] <Frogzoo> question: what's the most straightforward way to install ie6 on ubunut/breezy ?
[12:51] <leanwithit> anyway, any of you using festival?
[12:51] <GigaClon> Frogzoo, install Firefox
[12:51] <Frogzoo> oh, ies4linux doesn't count...
[12:51] <ineti> gigaclon: this wasn't the problem....:-/ just the 'text' looks bad
[12:51] <Frogzoo> GigaClon: I have apps I need to run that use doze dll's (hence ie6)
[12:51] <ara> galeon is nice
[12:52] <redblade> You guys (and girls have been a great help
[12:52] <GigaClon> Frogzoo, Mozilla ActiveX Control
[12:52] <GigaClon> is it small
[12:53] <redblade> Really, Thankyou
[12:53] <JoshT> Seveas, Is there a way to totally disable IPv6 so every process uses IPv4 instead as X-Chat also took ages to find this server?
[12:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell josht about ipv6disable
[12:54] <Seveas> JoshT, echo 'blacklist ipv6' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ipv6_sucks
[12:54] <Frogzoo> GigaClon: the boson router sim - it runs under qemu, but I need more speed
[12:56] <JoshT> Seveas, It came back and said "Blacklis ipv6"    Expected?  (Can you tell I'm a newbie!!?)
[12:56] <Seveas> JoshT, yes, expected
[12:56] <JoshT> Haha good! :)
[12:56] <Fable> wen is the next version of kde and is it gunna be incorporated into kububtu? if neone knows
[12:57] <JoshT> Thanks muchly
[12:57] <JoshT> It was getting very frustrating, trying to surf.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Fable about easysource
[12:57] <d1zZy^> hi there
[12:57] <GigaClon> hi
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Fable: you will find repos for kde 3.5 there
[12:58] <_-H22> hy everyone
[12:58] <Healot> what's the most significant update to KDE 3.5?
[12:58] <HymnToLife> Fable> KDE 3.5.1 is available fot Breezy
[12:58] <HymnToLife> and also for Dapper I think
[12:58] <_-H22> i have a little question
[12:58] <pratyush> hello can any body help me to get gnome in my ubuntu??
[12:58] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: only with those repos
[12:58] <GigaClon> anyone had any luck with Linksys Wireless Adapter WPC54G v2?
[12:58] <_-H22> how could i use the .bin files under linux?
[12:59] <HymnToLife> indeed
[12:59] <Seveas> _-H22, depends on what kind of bin it is
[12:59] <gnomefreak> now dapper im not sure but i dont think it ships with kde 3.5
[12:59] <GigaClon> pratyush, you should have it already
[12:59] <HymnToLife> I've always wondered why they didn't add the packages to the main repo :/
[12:59] <Spliffster> _-H22: usually just run them, ie. in a term, type sh <filename>.bin
[12:59] <GigaClon> other wise install ubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <Spliffster> _-H22: if the file is really made for linux 2.6
[01:00] <pratyush> but the probelm is i am unable to run the gnome...it is is not going fromt the loading...
[01:00] <pratyush> so i am using kde...
[01:00] <_-H22> i have an error : cannot execute binary file
[01:00] <pratyush> i installed ubnutu-desktop
[01:00] <pratyush> for first time it is coming...then i lost it....
[01:00] <Spliffster> _-H22: try (in a term): $ file <filename>.bin
[01:00] <HymnToLife> [12:59]  gnomefreak now dapper im not sure but i dont think it ships with kde 3.5 <= but the KDE 3.5.1 packages are for sure available for Dapper
[01:00] <Spliffster> _-H22: this will give you the type of the file
[01:01] <d1zZy^> one question, i'm trying to install the libdvdcss2 packet, but i always get the message, that it isn't available
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ok i wasnt sure if they made it to the main repos
[01:01] <_-H22> i've got "data
[01:01] <_-H22> "
[01:01] <gnomefreak> pratyush: after installing ubuntu-desktop did you log out choose gnome log back in?
[01:01] <GigaClon> pratyush, try again?
[01:01] <Spliffster> _-H22: this usually means that it is a) a data file (how smart, aint i?) or b) it's unknown ...in either way it doesn't seem to be a linux executable
[01:02] <Healot> d1zZy^, libdvdcss isn't legal... debian or any debian-based distro won't distribute it
[01:02] <Seveas> _-H22, is it an application or a cd image?
[01:02] <Healot> d1zZy^, you can get that package at vlc's website though
[01:02] <Seveas> !libdvdcss
[01:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[01:02] <munzir> Hi, aptitude search wdiff shows "p wdiff". what that p/purge means here? it's not installed?
[01:02] <d1zZy^> thanks :)
[01:03] <pratyush> gnomefreak: ya..i did it...after seeing it working...i shutdown the pc and after 1 hour i rebooted...and it is not working...
[01:03] <pratyush> gigaclon: are you saying me to install ubunut-desktop again?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> pratyush: do you get an error or anything? what happens when you try to log in to gnome
[01:03] <gnomefreak> pratyush: its ubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <pratyush> gnomefreak: it is not moving....i mean only brown screen
[01:04] <pratyush> gnomefreak: sorry ya it is ubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <gnomefreak> pratyush: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <gnomefreak> than see if you can log into it
[01:05] <pratyush> gnomefreak: gimme a sec...
[01:05] <_-H22> it has also an iso suffix, so i think it is a cd image
[01:05] <Itze> hey there... i have a llittle problem in the ubuntu install...even worse is, im a total newbie when it comes to linux, so i just say as clearly as i can:
[01:06] <_-H22> could i use it under linux without making the CD?
[01:06] <Spliffster> _-H22:
[01:06] <Spliffster> _-H22: yes you can mount it .... 1 sec
[01:06] <Healot> mount -t loopback <filename> <mount dir>
[01:06] <gnomefreak> Itze: what seems to be the trouble?
[01:06] <Itze> i have a 80 gb hdd with xp on it.... i resized it with partition magic so a hds5 with 20 gb is empty for ubuntu....
[01:06] <pratyush> gnomefreak: i reinstlled...i am going to debian
[01:07] <gnomefreak> he was on debian?
[01:07] <Itze> i tell ubuntu to install on this specific partition....with reiserfs. But shortly thereafter, it tells me "no rot system is defined"....
[01:08] <gnomefreak> Itze: did you make a root partion and a swap partion?
[01:08] <HymnToLife> if I'm not mistaken, you cannot install ubuntu to reiser
[01:08] <Spliffster> _-H22: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[01:08] <Itze> yup, i have a 1 gb swap and the rest as reiserfs
[01:08] <gnomefreak> root = / i think and swap would be /swap
[01:08] <ompaul> Seveas, u there?
[01:08] <Healot> you nned to define the root fs or "/"
[01:08] <Spliffster> _-H22: you have to do it as root: $ sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[01:09] <Itze> ...wouldnt ubuntu then install it over xp?
[01:09] <ompaul> hehe
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Itze:  you will want atleast 2 partions a root and a swap
[01:09] <ompaul> hehe
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Itze: not if you make the root in the space you have set aside for ubuntu
[01:09] <Itze> because right now, theyre mounted as "media/hda6"
[01:09] <Itze> ok
[01:10] <_-H22> i have an error message that says "wrong fs type..."
[01:10] <Itze> gnomefreak that means root has to be "/" and swap "/swap"?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Itze: im pretty sure root is /
[01:11] <gnomefreak> i know /swap is right
[01:11] <Spliffster> _-H22: hav you used -o loop -t iso9660 ?
[01:11] <Spliffster> _-H22: $ sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[01:11] <Itze> ok...ill try that. Thanks a lot :)
[01:11] <_-H22> the file has a .bin suffix
[01:12] <_-H22> should i add a .iso also?
[01:12] <Spliffster> _-H22: so s/iso/bin/
[01:12] <Spliffster> nope
[01:12] <Spliffster> _-H22: mount -o loop -t iso9660 <your file name> <your mount point>
[01:13] <HymnToLife> [13:11]  gnomefreak i know /swap is right <= nope, swap is swap
[01:13] <Spliffster> heh
[01:13] <HymnToLife> it has no mount point - just look in your fstab
[01:13] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: when pationing it its /swap
[01:13] <_-H22> it doesn't work
[01:13] <Spliffster> cool
[01:13] <Spliffster> err not
[01:13] <_-H22> i have command not found
[01:13] <_-H22> when i type so s/iso/bin
[01:14] <gnomefreak> partitioning*
[01:14] <Spliffster> ok again: $ sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 <file> <mount point>
[01:14] <Spliffster> _-H22: did you use sudo '
[01:14] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> nope, it' swapnot /swap => http://www.pcentraide.com/tutoriel/dual-boot/dual-boot-linux-windows-6.jpg
[01:14] <Healot> well, replace <file> and <mount point> with something appropriate :)
[01:14] <pratyush> gnomefreak: i dint get my gnome...
[01:14] <_-H22> yes
[01:14] <Spliffster> :/
[01:15] <pratyush> gnomefreak: it stopped at the brown window.....
[01:15] <gnomefreak> than that explains alot :(
[01:15] <HymnToLife> well, the thing is
[01:15] <_-H22> should i create a directory named bin in the mnt directory?
[01:15] <HymnToLife> if you want to set a partition as swap space
[01:15] <gnomefreak> pratyush: are you running ubuntu 5.10?
[01:15] <HymnToLife> you don't do it by entering a /swap mount point
[01:15] <Healot> _-H22, up to you
[01:15] <Spliffster> _-H22: yes, the <mount point< directory must be available ad readable
[01:15] <pratyush> gnomefreak: ya
[01:15] <HymnToLife> you choose it in the FS chooosing screen
[01:15] <Spliffster> _-H22: it can be anywhere you wish
[01:16] <_-H22> because when i di the command, i had the error that the mount point /mnt/iso doesn't exixt
[01:16] <_-H22> exist
[01:16] <gnomefreak> pratyush: im not sure what happened :(
[01:16] <_-H22> but before, i've tried it with a directory that exists
[01:16] <Healot> make the dir, silly :)
[01:16] <_-H22> in the /home directory
[01:17] <HymnToLife> the dis must be empty _-H22
[01:17] <HymnToLife> dir*
[01:17] <pratyush> gnomefreak: oh!............
[01:17] <_-H22> and i had the error message about the wrong fs type
[01:17] <_-H22> what do you mean by "the dis must be empty"?
[01:18] <HymnToLife> _-H22> you _must_ specify the FS type if the thing you are trying to mount isn't in your fstab
[01:18] <gnomefreak> the lagging issue that ubuntu have with ICE and Xauth. was that lag on start up or on shutdown?
[01:18] <HymnToLife> the dir*
[01:18] <gnomefreak> s/have/had
[01:18] <_-H22> and how could i do that?
[01:18] <HymnToLife> well
[01:18] <Healot> _-H22, are you sure the file you're mount is an ISO9660 image?
[01:18] <HymnToLife> man mount kind of works
[01:19] <JoshT> I have a slight DNS problem still...  Most websites I connect to work but when I try to connect to www.hotmail.com, I get "reply from unexpected source: 212.23.6.100#53, expected 192.168.1.1#53"
[01:19] <JoshT> the 212.23 address is my ISP's DNS server
[01:19] <_-H22> it has a name as ****.linux_iso-lnd.bin
[01:19] <Healot> JoshT, using Firefox right?
[01:20] <_-H22> it has a name as ****_linux_iso-lnd.bin
[01:20] <Healot> _-H22, that's not and ISO image
[01:20] <ksimon> my first day on ubuntu, I dont know how to locate a print driver, who can help?
[01:20] <JoshT> Healot, yep I am. I tried nslookup in the console to see what was happening and the above was the message I got.
[01:20] <_-H22> ah excuse me i didn't know
[01:20] <HymnToLife> !tell JoshT about printer
[01:21] <ksimon> thank you
[01:21] <_-H22> anyway, what should i do with such a file?
[01:21] <HymnToLife> oops my mistake
[01:21] <Healot> where you got that?
[01:21] <HymnToLife> !tell ksimon about printer
[01:21] <Healot> JoshT, cat /etc/resolv.conf for me?
[01:23] <aroticoz> ubuntu on 128 mb ram and with 500 mb swap works good :)
[01:23] <JoshT> Healot, Haha I thought it was gonna be a long script! It gives me nameserver 192.168.1.1
[01:23] <JoshT> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[01:24] <HymnToLife> JoshT> then add the IP of your ISPs DNS server too
[01:24] <richard_> blazemonger, are you there?
[01:24] <JoshT> Okay, I'll do that. Thanks people. :)
[01:24] <Healot> are you in a LAN? or do you have direct connection to the internet?
[01:24] <Healot> _-H22, try to make it executable "chmod +x <filename>", and then run it, "./<filename>"
[01:24] <Healot> i think it will extract the real ISO after that, perhaps?
[01:24] <Healot> oh...
[01:25] <Healot> what's the order of the name server?
[01:25] <Healot> is there any "212.23.6.100" in the list?
[01:25] <HymnToLife> aroticoz> lol I'm running it on 512 MB RAM, 1,5 GB swap :D
[01:25] <Healot> if there isn't add another line... above the previous line... "nameserver 212.23.6.100"
[01:25] <jrsims> how do I edit GRUB to make my screen res 800x600 at bootup?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Healot: please dont paste in here
[01:25] <Healot> paste what?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Healot about pastebin
[01:26] <Healot> I wasn't trying to paste any s*** though
[01:26] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: why sucha large swap?
[01:27] <Healot> you don't actually need 3 times your RAM size
[01:27] <eastgroup> is there a server package for ubuntu ?
[01:27] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> hmm why not ?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> 1gig is normally most youll need
[01:27] <Healot> what kind of server, eastgroup ?
[01:27] <HymnToLife> it improves the perfs quite a bit
[01:28] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: they even say if you have 1gig mem you dont need a swap
[01:28] <Healot> 512 for a workstation is larger than life...
[01:28] <HymnToLife> woot ?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: im just asking ive never used that large of a swap before
[01:29] <jrsims> how do I edit GRUB to make my screen res 800x600 at bootup?
[01:29] <eastgroup> i mean server package with php / apache / mysql - to host websites with a control panel one of those web-cp   syscp or open source hosting control panel
[01:29] <HymnToLife> well, before I used 512 MB (the same as my RAM)
[01:29] <psychomancer> j/#ubuntu.de
[01:29] <gnomefreak> jrsims: you should beable to do that in system>prefferences>screen res  it should save it and boot to it
[01:29] <HymnToLife> and I was thinking "what if I use more swap", so I did
[01:29] <HymnToLife> and i did improve the perfs for me
[01:29] <ineti> hi where can i found the glibc-headers? i can't compile anything on ubuntu 5.1
[01:30] <Kentaur> Hi. Anyone here know how to set up a samba share as writable to anyone in the network? I have set the parameters guest = ok and writable = yes
[01:30] <GigaClon> ineti install build-essential
[01:30] <gnomefreak> jrsims: if your talking log in screen i havent found a way to change that yet
[01:30] <ineti> gigaclon: thx
[01:30] <gmf_> !dhcp
[01:30] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, gmf_
[01:31] <JoshT> HymnToLife - Yep that's fixed it, putting my ISP's DNS server IPs in resolv.conf.    Strange that my router does the job for just about everything else though..
[01:31] <ineti> gigaclon: and the x include files?
[01:31] <HymnToLife> JoshT> well, Microsoft stuff is not precisely known to follow the rules :D
[01:31] <Healot> heh
[01:31] <eastgroup> what you think of it , it's will makes easy to install a web server right ?
[01:32] <babo> My skype is having problems with the /dev/dsp or something. I downloaded the .deb suggested on the forums but when I try to checkinstall it I get /var/tmp/VUiSEfnPnHmonaroAfrS/installscript.sh: line 16: skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb: command not found and it aborts the installation ... any ideas ?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell babo about skype
[01:32] <HymnToLife> !tell babo about dpkg
[01:33] <Healot> attack of the obotu
[01:33] <gnomefreak> babo: iirc you can grab the deb from the link i sent you and just run sudo dpkg - file.deb
[01:34] <ineti> what is the package name of the x11 header files?
[01:34] <Se7h> for you new 'debian' users
[01:34] <Se7h> sudo apt-get install gdebi
[01:34] <HymnToLife> ineti> x11-dev if I remember well
[01:34] <HymnToLife> pr just search synaptic
[01:35] <HymnToLife> or*
[01:35] <JoshT> HymnToLife - Good point.  Oh BTW, I haven't used IRC for aaaages and I've forgotten how to direct a message to a particular person, i.e. you.  When you type to me, you show up in red.  What slash code do I use??
[01:36] <gnomefreak> JoshT: /msg username message
[01:36] <HymnToLife> none :)
[01:36] <gnomefreak> oops sorry JoshT just say their name it will highlight for them
[01:36] <marlun> Is there a command to search for a text inside the documents in the current directory?
[01:36] <aroticoz> From where can I get real player for version 5.10 ?
[01:36] <HymnToLife> whenever you type someon's nickname in your message, it appears in red on the person's screen
[01:37] <babo> cool, I forgot about dpkg ... unfortunately though I'm running on amd64 and the package is for 32 ... can I still run it ?
[01:37] <poningru> marlun: cat *.* | grep whatever
[01:37] <gnomefreak> JoshT: like if you wanted to talk to HymnToLife  you would type hy<tab> message
[01:37] <HymnToLife> !tell aroticoz about real
[01:37] <marlun> poningru, thanks, I'll try that
[01:37] <poningru> the whatever is what you are searching for
[01:37] <DoTheRodeo> 
[01:37] <DoTheRodeo> can yall see this?
[01:37] <aroticoz> HymnToLife, didn't work
[01:37] <poningru> that thing is going to be huge so be careful
[01:37] <JoshT> gnomefreak, that's sweet!
[01:37] <poningru> DoTheRodeo: yes
[01:37] <DoTheRodeo> ic
[01:38] <JoshT> How very useful.
[01:38] <gnomefreak> JoshT: im more fond of the /me command :)
[01:38] <JoshT> Thanks gnomefreak
[01:38] <DoTheRodeo> ?
[01:38] <HymnToLife> hm well anyway aroticoz, real player is in the PLF repos
[01:38] <JoshT> gnomefreak, and what does that do again?
[01:38] <HymnToLife> !plf
[01:38] <ubotu> hmm... plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[01:38] <aroticoz> plf ?
[01:38] <DoTheRodeo> what about that?
[01:38] <babo> Can I install a .deb built for 32 bit system on my amd64 ?
[01:38] <aroticoz> thanks
[01:38] <gmf_> Hi, i was messing with pppoe and was running pppoeconf, then i wanted to use normal dhcp instead and got it running thru dhclient.. then i reebooted and now i cant get internet working with dhclient, i get no ip please help
[01:38] <HymnToLife> babo> you can
[01:39] <JoshT> gnomefreak, I think the last IRC client I used was mIRC 3.8 or something ancient.
[01:39] <HymnToLife> it won't work but you can install it :p
[01:39] <poningru> babo: you can create a 32bit env inside your 64bit os using chroot
[01:39] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for trying new things out
[01:39] <babo> HymnToLife: How ... linux32 ?
[01:39] <marlun> poningru, now It's hard to know which file that this was actually found :)
[01:39] <poningru> marlun: hehe true
[01:39] <babo> poningru: ... using chroot ?
[01:39] <DoTheRodeo> it aint off topic
[01:39] <JoshT> Oh it's all coming flooding back.  Happy days.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: it is offtopic
[01:40] <poningru> DoTheRodeo: its offtopic
[01:40] <poningru> I gotta go to sleep
[01:40] <poningru> night guys
[01:40] <gnomefreak> night poningru
[01:40] <R3linquish3r> lol i just woke up
[01:40] <R3linquish3r> damn
[01:40] <JoshT> and what's more... my IPv6 prob is gone
[01:40] <JoshT> Yeah I just got up.  Mind you, it is 12.40!!
[01:41] <GutterPunk> Hi
[01:41] <R3linquish3r> yo
[01:42] <GutterPunk> How can I get the 2.6 kernel sources? I can only find the 2.4.27 kernel-tree using apt-cache :/
[01:42] <HymnToLife> you lazy ass JoshT :p
[01:42] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: your running ubuntu?
[01:42] <JoshT> Healot, just been onto the Draytek website and discovered that my DSL router doesn't support IPv6.  That's what was doing it.  Doh!
[01:42] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, yes I am
[01:42] <HymnToLife> GutterPunk> it is called linux-source-2.6.x I think
[01:42] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: what was wrong with the 2.6 kernel that came with it :(
[01:42] <Healot> GutterPunk, what version ? 2.4? seems like the old warthy... hoarty?
[01:43] <GutterPunk> I'm using dapper :)
[01:43] <R3linquish3r> 2.4 is hoary i think.....
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Healot: no ubuntu has used 2.6 for all i think warty not sure about
[01:43] <ineti> where can i find libz
[01:43] <GutterPunk> gnomefreak, nothing really, except I can't use the 1400x1050 framebuffer resolution
[01:43] <ineti> ?
[01:43] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> you're not telling me you've never messed around with the kernel just for fun :p
[01:43] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: /join #ubuntu+1
[01:43] <JoshT> HymnToLife, yeah I know.  I was out at a gig last night and didn't get in till after 3am.
[01:43] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: nope havent needed to
[01:43] <HymnToLife> who did you see ?
[01:44] <GutterPunk> alright
[01:44] <GutterPunk> there's a little less talking in there :)
[01:44] <JoshT> HymnToLife, I went to see a covers badn from Sheffield called Stormbringers.  It was only in a pub but they have a late licence.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> GutterPunk: yes i know but the channel was make for dapper
[01:44] <JoshT> HymnToLife, they do Deep Purple and Whitesnake etc....
[01:45] <R3linquish3r> has anyone gotten Xfire working on wine? i keep getting this long error message when i try to login.
[01:45] <albacker> how do i use wget to download specifi extensions, like all .zips in dir http://www.site_HERE_.com/directory ?
[01:45] <babo> Hi guys, I need to install an i386 package on amd64 ... what's the best way ?
[01:45] <Itze> hey....can anybody tell me what the defautl ROOT password is, because i havent written ANY during the install?
[01:45] <aroticoz> damn I still can't find realplayer anywhere :|
[01:45] <gnomefreak> albacker: cd into dir you want it saved in than run wget command
[01:45] <sudharsh> Itze: :O
[01:45] <R3linquish3r> babo: with the cd.....
[01:45] <HymnToLife> babo> chroot
[01:45] <sudharsh> then jus a blank
[01:45] <JoshT> Itze, I believe it's a randomly generated one.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Itze about root
[01:46] <babo> HymnToLife: how does that work ?
[01:46] <R3linquish3r> Itze: you can reset the pass to whatever you want
[01:46] <albacker> gnomefreak, i want to know the wget command that gets only .zip's in the dir might be .rar's too but i want only .zip !
[01:46] <HymnToLife> don't have a clue
[01:46] <gnomefreak> there is no root in ubuntu by default in the sense that your talking about
[01:46] <Almindor> is there any graphical thing for gprof ?
[01:46] <Almindor> something like kprof but for gnome?
[01:46] <Itze> and how do i do that R3linquish3r
[01:46] <HymnToLife> basically its running sudo chroot /path/to/dir
[01:46] <gnomefreak> albacker: wget webaddresstozip
[01:46] <gnomefreak> albacker: also man wget
[01:46] <HymnToLife> where /dir is the root folder of an i386 system
[01:46] <ph1qt10n> im having trouble with GRUB, i get this: windows does not want to boot. i had installed ubuntu first, then windows, but i reinstalled windows and lost grub, when i come back to grub after installing it via the live CD, the windows part does not want to boot, anyways, i tried reinstalling grub and it says this: grub> setup (hd0,4)
[01:46] <ph1qt10n>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[01:46] <ph1qt10n>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... yes
[01:46] <ph1qt10n>  Checking if "/boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes
[01:47] <ph1qt10n>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,4)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[01:47] <ph1qt10n>  Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,4)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[01:47] <R3linquish3r> Itze: try "sudo psswd" if that dont work let me know ill find it
[01:47] <ph1qt10n>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,4) /boot/grub/stage2 p /boot/grub/menu
[01:47] <ph1qt10n> .lst "... succeeded
[01:47] <gnomefreak> ph1qt10n: no pasteing
[01:47] <albacker> yeah, i know how to use man : thanks anyway; gnomefreak
[01:47] <ph1qt10n> my bad
[01:47] <HymnToLife> babo > basically its running sudo chroot /path/to/dir
[01:47] <HymnToLife> where /dir is the root folder of an i386 system
[01:47] <HymnToLife> stupid paster :/
[01:48] <DoTheRodeo> ok, let say i have apache installed right, howd i make people dl off it?
[01:48] <DoTheRodeo> you know what im saying?
[01:48] <DoTheRodeo> like in /var/www
[01:48] <babo> HymnToLife: but how do I set up a 32bit environment in chroot ?
[01:48] <Itze> R3linquish3r the problem is, i want to change something in the network.... but i cant, so i figured it had to be because im just a normal user
[01:48] <HymnToLife> this I don't know :/
[01:48] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: hi, i am back
[01:48] <gnomefreak> hi
[01:49] <ph1qt10n> can i get some help with grub, i've read the wiki but no luck
[01:49] <R3linquish3r> Itze: I dont know anything about networking sorry, but that should be the command to set your root password. then just login to root iwth "sudo sh"
[01:49] <JoshT> HymnToLife, I just changed my keyboard layout.  I suppose I have to restart before anything alters, right?
[01:49] <Spliffster> ph1qt10n: whats the prob then ?
[01:49] <Itze> uhmmm.....
[01:49] <HymnToLife> babo> if you install it on another partition it's rather easy
[01:49] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i had to go outside to pick some plants from the green-house :)
[01:49] <savon> How to burn in linux?
[01:49] <HymnToLife> I don't know how to install it into a directory of an existing partition
[01:50] <DoTheRodeo> anyone?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> savon: with a match or a lighter
[01:50] <ph1qt10n> Spliffster, i already explained it
[01:50] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/ by firefox browser is not displaying the fonts of this site, (persian fonts)
[01:50] <gnomefreak> savon: burn what
[01:50] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: thats not you its the site
[01:50] <JoshT> savon, blowtorch.  Sorry, that's not funny, or helpful..
[01:50] <savon> burn iso file!
[01:50] <HymnToLife> savon> k3b :)
[01:50] <gnomefreak> savon: use k3b or gnomebaker
[01:50] <savon> I need to re install ubuntu!
[01:51] <HymnToLife> how come ?
[01:51] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i have also gentoo installed on my other system, and its firefox is displaying the fonts properly
[01:51] <gnomefreak> k3b is easiest ive found
[01:51] <Healot> linuxboyfriend < intimidating
[01:51] <Spliffster> DoTheRodeo: just copy files to /var/www and tell your friends to access the maching by ip ... if you do not want to fiddle with dns. if you are behind a firewall or router (NAT!) then you may need to forward ports (80) and make sure your firewall isn't blocking tcp 80
[01:51] <Velcro_SP> Hello, this is my first time here. I am surprised to see so many people in this channel. I did not realize Ubuntu was so popular.
[01:51] <ph1qt10n> how can i COMPLETELY remove kubuntu? i went on sypnatic and uninstalled kubuntu-desktop, but the darn thing is still there and my old UBUNTU brown startup is gone, now the ugly blue kubuntu startup comes out, any help?
[01:51] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> and it's KDE :)
[01:51] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: im not sure i had issues seeing it too
[01:51] <HymnToLife> gnomebakes is crappy as hell
[01:51] <linuxboyfriend> Healot: ? whats that mean
[01:51] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: what is kde?
[01:51] <R3linquish3r> savon: you could also wine nero if your familiar with taht and like to stay with it
[01:51] <HymnToLife> k3b :)
[01:51] <sudharsh> R3linquish3r: btw theres a linux version of nero
[01:51] <Itze> R3linquish3r im new to linux, so i didnt get anything from what you told me at all.... what do you mean with "sudo psswd"?
[01:52] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: can you tell me any site from where i can get help about viewing this site
[01:52] <DoTheRodeo> i got that Spliffster, but i think i just have to chmod the file they're accessing
[01:52] <gnomefreak> R3linquish3r: that sounds like alot of work for him to reformat
[01:52] <R3linquish3r> sudharsh: really? sweet :)
[01:52] <ph1qt10n> is there some command for removing a certain program completely?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: i would ask in #firefox   or use w3m seee if thats better
[01:52] <gmf_> Hi, i was messing with pppoe and was running pppoeconf, then i wanted to use normal dhcp instead and got it running thru dhclient.. then i reebooted and now i cant get internet working with dhclient, i get no ip please help... i have been running sudo update-rc.d ppp remove
[01:52] <sudharsh> R3linquish3r: dont get any ideas, u still gotta pay for the license :P
[01:52] <R3linquish3r> Itze: you want to put that in your terminal/konsole. that is the command to change your root password.
[01:53] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[01:53] <R3linquish3r> sudharsh: not with the way i get it :P
[01:53] <HymnToLife> gmf_> edit your /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:53] <Healot> ph1qt10n, you need to remove kdm (the KDE login stuff)
[01:53] <savon> R3linquish3r thank you, I like nero!
[01:53] <Spliffster> oh ... do you get a forbidden ? if so ... make sure the file is readable by apache. chmod 777 is the least secure but the easiest way to achive .. also it doesn't matter on a single user system
[01:53] <eastgroup> i have error i'm trying to remove gforge-db-postgresql
[01:53] <Alexi5> Gnome is the best
[01:53] <ph1qt10n> Healot: how?
[01:53] <Healot> the package name is "kdm" btw
[01:53] <Alexi5> kde is too slow
[01:53] <R3linquish3r> savon: go to www.winehq.com if you want to take a look at wine and running nero
[01:53] <Spliffster> DoTheRodeo: are you talking about directory lsitings or files ?
[01:54] <HymnToLife> Alexi5> buy yourself a computer man :p
[01:54] <Healot> apt-get remove kdm?
[01:54] <Alexi5> lol
[01:54] <Healot> or use synaptic
[01:54] <Spliffster> DoTheRodeo: files: chmod 744, directories, chmod 777
[01:54] <Itze> R3linquish3r the problem is....i dont even know the root password... besides, it tells me "command not found"
[01:54] <HymnToLife> !root
[01:54] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:54] <R3linquish3r> Itze: ok hold on a econd ill find the ommand... you dont need to know the root password that sets it for you
[01:55] <R3linquish3r> Itze: put in the command and out the root password as you like
[01:55] <Healot> sudo password root at the first login, boys
[01:55] <Healot> or was it "passwd", hehe
[01:55] <HymnToLife> [13:53]  Alexi5 kde is too slow
[01:55] <HymnToLife> [13:53]  R3linquish3r savon: go to www.winehq.com if you want to take a look at wine and running nero <= useless... Nero is great but k3b blows it miles away...
[01:56] <R3linquish3r> HymnToLife: I know but someone new to linux might prefer staying with it.....
[01:56] <eastgroup> please , help
[01:56] <eastgroup> i can't remove package
[01:56] <eastgroup> E: gforge-db-postgresql: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[01:56] <R3linquish3r> Itze: ok the command is sudo passwd root
[01:56] <ph1qt10n> if i removed kubuntu-desktop, why am i still able to enter KDE ? WTF
[01:56] <Healot> there is "nerolinux"
[01:57] <R3linquish3r> Itze: put that in your terminal, put in your password, then put he root password you want
[01:57] <Healot> well, you need the nero license first, or do i have to own one, hell no
[01:57] <R3linquish3r> Healot: lol amen
[01:57] <Itze> ....ahhh i think i got i now. Thanks a lot :D
[01:57] <Healot> ph1qt10n, it's the login manager, it's not true KDE, the desktop manager
[01:57] <chaumurky>  kubuntu-desktop is a meta package
[01:58] <R3linquish3r> Itze: np. check out www.ubuntuguide.org it has alot of info
[01:58] <gnomefreak> no r3
[01:58] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[01:58] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:58] <Itze> thanks R3linquish3r :)
[01:58] <R3linquish3r> raelly?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:58] <R3linquish3r> ive had no problems using it....
[01:58] <ph1qt10n> Healot: i actually entered KDE
[01:59] <gnomefreak> R3linquish3r: did you have a problem setting up your sound card in ubuntu?
[01:59] <R3linquish3r> nope
[01:59] <R3linquish3r> works great
[01:59] <gnomefreak> my point
[01:59] <Alexi5> hello
[01:59] <Healot> humm.. then you haven't remove KDE for sure :)
[02:00] <ph1qt10n> healot: how can i remove it completely
[02:00] <eastgroup> what i can do with .ftpaccess.lock ?
[02:00] <Alexi5> isn't a  Celeron 2.2GHZ with 768 MB RAM ,Radeon 9000 with 128 MB DDR Ram  good enough for kde
[02:00] <eastgroup> and why i can't write to the ftp ?
[02:00] <HymnToLife> it is
[02:00] <HymnToLife> KDE runs perfectly on my Celeron 2,8, 512 MB
[02:00] <gnomefreak> ph1qt10n: you run sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop than uninstall the apps left there is a lib you can get rid of and it takes everything with it but i cant remember the name of it
[02:00] <eastgroup> why no one notice me & help me ?!!
[02:01] <Healot> hum... remove kubuntu-desktop... using synaptic... make sure there are many packages to be remove though, not just kubuntu-desktop alone
[02:01] <HymnToLife> with 1,5 GB swap though :D
[02:01] <JoshT> Anybody know how I can install NeroLinux from the .deb package file I just downloaded, please?
[02:01] <R3linquish3r> i love KDE myself, looks alot nicer than gnome :)
[02:01] <JoshT> Or do I need the RPM?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> JoshT: pay fo rit
[02:01] <ph1qt10n> thx
[02:01] <gnomefreak> for it
[02:01] <Alexi5> but the kde themes are harder to install than gnome themes
[02:02] <JoshT> gnomefreak, well yeah I probably will but first I wanna see how it performs.
[02:02] <Healot> JoshT, tehre is not Nerolinux in deb... yes, it's available in RPM, from Nero Gmbh
[02:02] <HymnToLife> JoshT> you can't directly install RPMs on debian-like distros like Uuntuhave you searched nerlinux in the repos ?
[02:02] <JoshT> Healot, I think there is, seeing as I just downloaded it!! :P
[02:02] <gnomefreak> JoshT: you can try the nero site but i dont think they will have a trail fo rit
[02:02] <JoshT> gnomefreak, there is.  I just downloaded it haha
[02:02] <JoshT> lol
[02:02] <HymnToLife> (though all the RPMs I've tried worked perfectly with alien on Ubuntu)
[02:02] <JoshT> Must eb a new addition
[02:02] <Nogimics> Whats the best anti virus to use with ubuntu?
[02:03] <Zarephath> clam AV
[02:03] <gnomefreak> downloading it doesnt do anything though i havent used it but normally during install is when you need the key
[02:03] <Healot> nerolinux :)
[02:03] <Nogimics> Can I just sudo apt-get install clam av?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> !clamav
[02:03] <ubotu> ClamAV is not required. It purpose is to check files for virii on a server shared with Windows users (eg: mail server). For those that need it for that purpose, it is available in universe.
[02:03] <chaumurky> does one really need anti-virus for linux?
[02:04] <R3linquish3r> caumurky: not really but anal people like to have it
[02:04] <Zarephath> No not really but it is an option
[02:04] <gnomefreak> chaumurky: depends on what your using linux for
[02:04] <JoshT> Healot, what's so funny :P that's what they call it
[02:04] <R3linquish3r> chaumurky: i have one just for scanning my windows part from time to time
[02:04] <chaumurky> right
[02:04] <Healot> chaumurky, yes... if you use Windows :)
[02:04] <kent> gnomefreak: did you want to say something to me before? you probably highlited the wrong person..  :)
[02:04] <R3linquish3r> anyone know a good fpt program on apt?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> kent: i think i did there was another kent in here sorry bout that
[02:05] <chaumurky> can't use it dor my dual boot though - ntfs - no write support
[02:05] <JoshT> here we go - right from the website:
[02:05] <savon> and how to open rar files?
[02:05] <JoshT> FREE full-featured trial download
[02:05] <JoshT> NeroLINUX / dpkg
[02:05] <gnomefreak> !rar
[02:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:05] <HymnToLife> *trial*
[02:05] <gnomefreak> wonder how much over 50 usd it is
[02:05] <Healot> not funny/// i really like Nero's first Linux app effort
[02:05] <JoshT> HymnToLife, yeah I know. But I'd rather try it for free and then pay up if I like it....
[02:06] <Healot> RAR compression is not really efficient
[02:06] <HymnToLife> JoshT> you can get a more powerful tool for free...
[02:06] <Zarephath> Not to mention at least they are trying to develop apps to the linux community...
[02:06] <kent> gnomefreak: its ok. :) just wanted to know if you ment me or some one else. :)
[02:06] <Zarephath> *for*
[02:06] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:06] <JoshT> Healot, oh right, I musta misinterpreted your :)
[02:06] <JoshT> hehe
[02:06] <patrick295767> ace has the best compression rate
[02:07] <Healot> I'd pay for a good GNU/Linux distro...
[02:07] <patrick295767> rar is just below ace ...
[02:07] <R3linquish3r> dos linux not support flash 8? i can only get flash 7 off their site....
[02:07] <HymnToLife> I'd rather have Macromedia develop a DW and Flash for linux...
[02:07] <Healot> 7-zip is second to ace, yet it's free as in freedom :)
[02:07] <gnomefreak> !flash
[02:07] <ubotu> hmm... flash is installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:07] <Alexi5> soon from now linux will be taking over microsoft
[02:07] <Healot> no flash 8 yet for GNU/Linux, that is
[02:07] <michael> wo ist der deusche?
[02:07] <R3linquish3r> Alexi5: AMEN!
[02:07] <gnomefreak> !de
[02:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:07] <HymnToLife> Alexi5> not anywhere in near future
[02:08] <michael> kk
[02:08] <R3linquish3r> lol
[02:08] <HymnToLife> because of dumb gamers mostly
[02:08] <R3linquish3r> hey! im a gamer.... but i play native quake 3 :)
[02:08] <HymnToLife> andpeople who don't even know what linux is :D
[02:08] <HymnToLife> R3linquish3r> then you're not a _dumb_ gamer ;)
[02:08] <Healot> Alexi5, very soon...
[02:08] <R3linquish3r> lol
[02:08] <Healot> Linux has different market though...
[02:08] <Zarephath> Hey I don't really know what linux is but I still try to use it :)
[02:09] <Zarephath> heheh
[02:09] <R3linquish3r> i wish they would develop a native xfire.... the gaim plugin blows
[02:09] <Healot> I still don't believe that desktop GNU/Linux will take over MS Windows for desktop
[02:09] <Healot> but Server version, YES
[02:09] <jdpj> br
[02:09] <jdpj> help
[02:09] <jdpj> chat
[02:09] <R3linquish3r> theres alot more linux servers than windows nowadays
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !br
[02:09] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:09] <Healot> brasil?
[02:10] <Velcro_SP> Ubuntu installed great on my Dell Latitude laptop, but it doesn't play videos or MP3s "out of the box." Is this normal?
[02:10] <jdpj> yes
[02:10] <HymnToLife> Healot> most servers are already running linux
[02:10] <jdpj> grato
[02:10] <R3linquish3r> Velcro_SP: you need all the ocdes and such
[02:10] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: or struggling to catch up :)
[02:10] <HymnToLife> and I still think for desktop Linux has much more potential than Windows
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Velcro_SP about mp3
[02:10] <HymnToLife> if only there was more software for it...
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Velcro_SP about dvd
[02:10] <Velcro_SP> R3, what's the easiest way to install those?
[02:10] <Healot>  but Server version, YES... said that
[02:10] <babo> Hi, I'm trying to compile and install the skype hijacker but I'm getting /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libdl.a when searching for -ldl
[02:10] <babo>          /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldl
[02:10] <babo>   ... can anyone help
[02:10] <babo> ?
[02:10] <R3linquish3r> Velcro_SP: i used automatix but i dont recommend it its kinda touchy
[02:11] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: wine has huge potential - which I guess bill want's to kill off with the vista apis
[02:11] <gnomefreak> babo: why not just get the .deb for it
[02:11] <patrick295767> for desktop, the prob is that there is not such programs like photshop illlustrator and office
[02:11] <Healot> just need more developers for GNU/Linux apps, especially games
[02:11] <Zarephath> You guys hear anything about PPC version for some of the restricted format stuff?
[02:11] <Healot> those are covered, patrick295767 :)
[02:11] <Healot> got OO and GIMP
[02:11] <R3linquish3r> Velcro_SP if you want to try automatix you have to be carefull about waht you install some stuff isnt owrking right
[02:11] <HymnToLife> Frogzoo> wine is still buggy for quite a lot of apps
[02:11] <babo> gnomefreak: I've installed the .deb, but  there's a problem with the sound device. This is a workaround for that problem. I'm also on AMD64
[02:11] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[02:11] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:12] <patrick295767> i am publishing and can tell you that open office is not a standard in research :
[02:12] <patrick295767> only latex or office stuffs
[02:12] <jdpj> alguem do brasil aqui
[02:12] <Zarephath> It still isn't real easy to setup and use either...wine that is
[02:12] <jdpj> preciso de um descompactador para o winrar
[02:12] <Zarephath> Which means that most people won't want to bother with it..
[02:12] <jdpj> no linux
[02:12] <R3linquish3r> alot of programs just dont work for it (wine).... damn xfire
[02:12] <patrick295767> and if you wanna get best in picture publishing, inkscape or gimp is nto enough ...
[02:12] <gnomefreak> jdpj: /join #ubuntu-br
[02:12] <Healot> jdpj, install unrar-free....
[02:13] <R3linquish3r> photoshop CS2 wotn owrk either i had to back down to 7
[02:13] <babo> what's /usr/bin/ld ????
[02:13] <Healot> but non rar para linux... jdpj
[02:13] <jdpj> not user in #ubuntu-br
[02:13] <jdpj> ok
[02:13] <Healot> it's the linker... babo
[02:13] <HymnToLife> R3linquish3r> what's wrong with GIMP ?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> jdpj: than speak in american english in here
[02:14] <babo> ok, cool - why is it not compatible ?
[02:14] <jdpj> not speak english
[02:14] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> english english is forbidden ?
[02:14] <R3linquish3r> HymnToLife: it doesnt have as many options as photshop dos. you can run photoshop on WINE but the latest you can run is Photoshop 7
[02:14] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: lol
[02:14] <babo> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libdl.a when searching for -ldl
[02:14] <babo> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldl
[02:14] <babo> can anyone help here ?
[02:14] <HymnToLife> GIMP worked well for evrything I needed it
[02:14] <gnomefreak> accourding to the wikis this channel is for american english but english isnt much different
[02:15] <HymnToLife> though I'm no image freak I admit
[02:15] <R3linquish3r> HymnToLife: lol neither am I. alot of pros say that GIMP isnt enough. I just dont like the architecture or GIMP
[02:15] <slabby> Is there way to get a 32bit linux app to work on Ubuntu AMD 64 version?
[02:15] <R3linquish3r> *of imp
[02:15] <R3linquish3r> *gimp
[02:15] <R3linquish3r> lol i cant type this morning
[02:15] <gillesg> where is the keyboard changing app on ubuntu
[02:15] <babo> slabby: linux32
[02:16] <slabby> !linux32
[02:16] <jdpj> descompactador rar
[02:16] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, slabby
[02:16] <R3linquish3r> slabby: morning man
[02:16] <HymnToLife> R3linquish3r> I prefer PHotoshop's too
[02:16] <slabby> R3linquish3r, morning
[02:16] <HymnToLife> but as long as GIMP works, I use it
[02:16] <johndarkhorse> jdpj: try using unrar-nonfree
[02:16] <HymnToLife> wunning app through wine is a whore on resources
[02:16] <R3linquish3r> HymnToLife: lol :P
[02:17] <jdpj> ok
[02:17] <gillesg> I want to put gkbd_app on my bar
[02:17] <JoshT> So, how do I install a .deb or .rpm package?
[02:17] <jdpj> thank you
[02:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell JoshT about deb
[02:17] <johndarkhorse> JoshT: leave the .rpm alone
[02:17] <HymnToLife> !deb
[02:17] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[02:17] <R3linquish3r> sudo dkpg -i <file>.deb
[02:17] <HymnToLife> !rpm
[02:17] <ubotu> [rpm]  the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[02:17] <JoshT> gnomefreak, cheers
[02:17] <savon> how to fix fullscrun in mplayer!
[02:17] <JoshT> HymnToLife, cheers
[02:18] <savon> It dasnt work!:(
[02:18] <babo> No-one can help ?
[02:18] <afd> hi! I'm trying to get ntfsmount to work, but I get "fusermount: failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory", I have installed fuse and all those fuse related things, so any idea on how to make this work?
[02:18] <R3linquish3r> /dev/fuse?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> babo: did you get the .deb from Seveas? or from their website?
[02:18] <Seewai> hey, I just dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper and now X doesn't start. Can anyone help?
[02:18] <HymnToLife> !tellbabo about noone
[02:18] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[02:18] <ubotu> methinks dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[02:19] <HymnToLife> !tell babo about noone
[02:19] <R3linquish3r> x just isnt owrking for alot of people on dapper yet
[02:19] <grajkoo> seewai: look int xorg log file
[02:19] <babo> gnomefreak: it's not a .deb ... it's just the source code and make files
[02:19] <max300> i need help finding p4v88 audio drivers
[02:19] <R3linquish3r> im not ognna load in dapper until its released... just dont need the headache
[02:19] <gnomefreak> babo: you can get the .deb from seveas its packages with everything you need
[02:19] <HymnToLife> babo> do you really need to compile ?
[02:19] <savon> how to fix fullscreen in mplayer?
[02:20] <HymnToLife> what are you trying to install ?
[02:20] <slabby> Has anyone run Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory on Ubuntu? or any other linux distro?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> !skype
[02:20] <ubotu> well, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[02:20] <babo> HymnToLife: I'm on AMD64 ... so I think that I do ...
[02:20] <patrick295767> u need breezy and change one para
[02:20] <gnomefreak> go to the second link in that message
[02:20] <patrick295767> in ~/.mplayer/ ...
[02:20] <babo> Thanks for your help guys, it's really appreciated :-)
[02:20] <tristanmike> slabby, I'm running ET on Ubuntu Breezy
[02:20] <patrick295767> i have to look the one
[02:20] <HymnToLife> savon> if I remember well it's in preferances > video > output module
[02:20] <R3linquish3r> slabby: i beleive it can be run on wine. check the apdb at www.winehq.com to make sure
[02:20] <HymnToLife> or something of that sort, choose x11
[02:20] <Seewai> grajkoo: you know how the X output is normally displayed when gdm fails? In my case, the X output is .. empty
[02:20] <max300> HELP
[02:20] <Seewai> which is the funny thing
[02:20] <slabby> R3linquish3r, shouldnt need wine it is a linux app
[02:20] <Zarephath> I edited my sources.list for access to other formats since Dapper wasn't letting me install with apt-get...any idea why I can't access the other repositories? Anyway to get apt-get to check connectivity to a specific repository?
[02:21] <slabby> tristanmike, 32bit or 64?
[02:21] <R3linquish3r> slabby: alright. im i nvr played the game so i dunno :P
[02:21] <tristanmike> slabby, 32
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ok people use #ubuntu+1 for dapper talk
[02:21] <slabby> R3linquish3r, lol :P
[02:21] <slabby> tristanmike, can you try an help me get it running please, im on 64bit but have linux32 which should make it work
[02:21] <grajkoo> seewai: i suugest that u could make backup home files etc. and makes new installation. There is a lot of porblems with distupgrade
[02:21] <R3linquish3r> anyone know about getting a saitek joystick working?
[02:22] <max300> i need p4v88 audio drivers!!!
[02:22] <babo> gnomefreak: seaveas only has packages for 32 methinks ?
[02:22] <Zarephath> gnomefreak: Only reason I asked here was due to the fact that most everyone over on #ubuntu+1 has an idle time of an hour or more
[02:22] <Seewai> grajkoo: I guess I will, if I have to, but it seems a bit inelegant ;-)
[02:22] <slabby> tristanmike, I have downloaded version 2.60 and have the latest patch two but how do i install it?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> Zarephath: thats because everyone comes in here
[02:22] <savon> output module dosnt exist:(
[02:22] <grajkoo> seewai: good luck :P
[02:22] <tristanmike> slabby, I'm not familiar with 64 bit, but don't you have to run a 64 bit version?
[02:22] <tristanmike> slabby, that's easy
[02:22] <gnomefreak> if people used the #ubuntu+1 it would take off
[02:22] <HymnToLife> savon> searh for something of that kind
[02:23] <slabby> tristanmike, im not there is a 64 bit version, whats easy?
[02:23] <HymnToLife> I don't use mplayer so I can't help you
[02:23] <tristanmike> slabby, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnemyTerritory?highlight=%28territory%29%7C%28enemy%29
[02:23] <sohmc> is there a way to search apt-get or synaptic for a specific file in a package?
[02:23] <tristanmike> slabby, the install
[02:23] <R3linquish3r> totem is way better than mplayer
[02:23] <Seewai> are there any dapper install CDs available anywhere? I know I could start digging through the wiki but using w3m is nasty :-)
[02:23] <gnomefreak> sohmc: apt-cache search package
[02:23] <HymnToLife> or try searching the forum, I remember having asked that very same question on there some months ago
[02:23] <tristanmike> slabby, you only need v.2.6, and not the patch
[02:23] <savon> ok thank anyway
[02:23] <sohmc> gnomefreak:: thanks
[02:23] <max300> AC'97 drivers for linux!!!
[02:23] <Zarephath> Seewai: go to Ubuntu+1 and read the topic
[02:23] <babo> gnomefreak: the package is on seaveas but unfortunately it's for i386 only ... :-(
[02:23] <Zarephath> max300: where?
[02:23] <Healot> yes, on synaptic, just click on the search button, type in the searh keyword...
[02:24] <max300> were do i find AC'97 drivers for linux
[02:24] <slabby> tristanmike, ok
[02:24] <tristanmike> slabby, wait
[02:24] <xavieron> #laviana
[02:24] <gnomefreak> babo: sorry i thought he had 64 on there too it might be a different one im thinking of
[02:24] <sohmc> gnomefreak:: I'm not sure if that's what I'm looking for
[02:24] <slabby> tristanmike, k
[02:24] <Storkme> !pastebin
[02:24] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:24] <Zarephath> max300: You don't need drivers specific to your chipset
[02:24] <ateves> does someone know how to handle licq console client?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> sohmc: what do you want to do?
[02:24] <tristanmike> slabby, see on the wiki, where it says "sudo sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run" for the install of the full version
[02:24] <sohmc> Healot:: that only searches for words in packages
[02:24] <Healot> ac97 is available on the default kernel package for breezy...
[02:24] <max300> but i dont have audio with ubuntu
[02:24] <babo> gnomefreak: when I try to compile my own ... I get the linker error ... I'm not a having a 'good' linux day :-(
[02:24] <Healot> yes...
[02:25] <sohmc> gnomefreak:: I'm looking for a specific header file because I'm trying to compile something
[02:25] <gnomefreak> sohmc: apt-cache search <packagename> use the packagename in place of packagenaem
[02:25] <Healot> isn't that what search is for?
[02:25] <Healot> word...
[02:25] <Zarephath> max300: Just have ALSA installed... and first thing to do is check alsa mixer to make sure the master volume isn't muted....run it from command line
[02:25] <slabby> tristanmike, yes
[02:25] <jdpj> what install program in ubuntu
[02:25] <babo> gnomefreak: serves me right for running ubuntu64 I guess ;-)
[02:25] <tristanmike> slabby, use "gksudo" instead of "sudo"
[02:25] <yonen> Hi, I'm tring to install/compile the modules for LIRC and it seem like the path for the headers is /usr/src/linux/include/ and not /usr/include, can anyone help me?
[02:25] <sohmc> gnomefreak:: that would only help if I know what the package name was
[02:25] <max300> ok
[02:25] <slabby> tristanmike, ok thanks
[02:25] <gnomefreak> sohmc: apt-cache search whatever your looking for here
[02:25] <gnomefreak> sohmc: do you have gui?
[02:25] <tristanmike> slabby, no probs, good luck
[02:25] <sohmc> gnomefreak:: yeah.
[02:25] <slabby> tristanmike, thank,s
[02:25] <HymnToLife> yonen> man ln
[02:26] <gnomefreak> sohmc: open synaptic and search inthere
[02:26] <R3linquish3r> aight im gonna go play some quake
[02:26] <R3linquish3r> c yas
[02:26] <yonen> HymnToLife, I know how to use ln
[02:26] <sohmc> gnomefreak:: the search only searches for package name, not the file it provides
[02:26] <gnomefreak> type header for the search
[02:26] <HymnToLife> well
[02:26] <Healot> there is nothing wrong on running 32bit apps on 64bit gnu/linux as long as you have libs32
[02:26] <Storkme> hi, i get this error when trying to burn an iso image to a cdrw in gnomebaker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9746
[02:26] <cppnewbie> hey guys, i cant view my external usb storage drive again, what did u say i need to do? i removed it and replugged it in but now nothing is in the place i mounted it in
[02:26] <yonen> HymnToLife, both dirs exist aleady
[02:26] <cppnewbie> last time
[02:26] <HymnToLife> ow
[02:26] <HymnToLife> hmm
[02:26] <yonen> HymnToLife, but they have different headers in it
[02:26] <gnomefreak> sohmc: is a C header file you are looking for?
[02:27] <sohmc> sohmc:: no, an x11 extentions header
[02:27] <max300> have u got any idea were to find alsa?
[02:27] <HymnToLife> can't you specify the dir where yourcompiler looks for the headers ?
[02:27] <yonen> with --includedir=??          I tryed with no luck
[02:27] <sohmc> gnomefreak:: specificlly  X11/extensions/XShm.h
[02:27] <babo> does anyone know what the -ldl switch does on gcc ?
[02:27] <HymnToLife> sohmc> then most likely the package you need is x11-dev
[02:28] <HymnToLife> babo> man gcc does
[02:28] <sohmc> babo:: have you tried the man page?
[02:28] <babo> HymnToLife: no it doesn't
[02:28] <babo> sohmc: yes
[02:28] <HymnToLife> are you sure about your swich ?
[02:28] <patrick295767> apt-cache pkgnames packagename
[02:28] <sohmc> HymnToLife:: its already installed
[02:29] <HymnToLife> normally those ar one character
[02:29] <sohmc> babo:: -l indicates library
[02:30] <babo> shomc: thanks, but what is -ldl ? I assumed that the switch is 'ldl' rather than three seperate switches ... I mean there wouldn't be any need to repeat the -l if it was three switches right ?
[02:30] <cppnewbie> how can i view my usb connected devices and the mounted devices?
[02:30] <sohmc> babo:: -dl dump after local register allocation (available in the man page
[02:30] <HymnToLife> sohmc> have you tried sudo apt-get build-dep xxx <= where xxx is the name of what you are trying to build
[02:30] <Isildur> max300:do you mean the packet?
[02:30] <HymnToLife> ?
[02:30] <ruzgar> i cant run the java apllets in firefox
[02:30] <Healot> the easiest way to find files/package names... using http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:30] <max300> its ok i found it
[02:30] <sohmc> HymnToLife:: hmmm...no I haven't...let me try
[02:30] <steinar> Hello. Just installet ubuntu here and it works great. BUT. I am a total noob with linux and need help with installing firefox 1.5 . The firefox version I got with ubuntu is .
[02:30] <babo> sohmc: oh, ok mea culpa ... thanks
[02:31] <JLiquorish> hello, does / or the swap have to be a primary partition?
[02:31] <steinar> ver
[02:31] <steinar> 1,07
[02:31] <Isildur> or aptitude search xxx
[02:31] <eastgroup> there is a proplem with gforge
[02:31] <gnomefreak> sohmc: apt-cache search X11 brought up alot of devel extention files for it
[02:31] <HymnToLife> JLiquorish> / does I hink
[02:31] <HymnToLife> swap definitely doesnt
[02:31] <slabby> tristanmike, you sill here?
[02:31] <tristanmike> slabby, yessum
[02:31] <JLiquorish> thanks HymnToLife
[02:31] <steinar> Can anyone open a chat to me and talk me through it ?
[02:31] <slabby> tristanmike, im getting the no such file or directory??
[02:31] <Storkme> hi, i get this error when trying to burn an iso image to a cdrw in gnomebaker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9746
[02:31] <cppnewbie> how can i view my usb devices?
[02:32] <tristanmike> slabby, did you "cd" to the place where the file is?
[02:32] <Ribs> cppnewbie: usbview
[02:32] <Ribs> cppnewbie: You may have to install it first
[02:32] <slabby> tristanmike, yes
[02:32] <fbn> how can I change the default PATH variable?
[02:32] <cppnewbie> and where do i get it? :D
[02:32] <sohmc> HymnToLife:: I think you're idea worked...it installed a lot of libraries
[02:32] <Healot> lsusb?
[02:32] <Ribs> cppnewbie: With synaptic
[02:32] <tristanmike> slabby, what's the file name?
[02:32] <Healot> cppnewbie, just type lsusb
[02:32] <JLiquorish> what would be the best way of getting to understand the workings of linux better? I want to learn and understand computers and OSs more
[02:32] <Healot> on the cli of course
[02:33] <sohmc> yay!!!!  it compiled
[02:33] <Storkme> hi, i get this error when trying to burn an iso image to a cdrw in gnomebaker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9746
[02:33] <slabby> tristanmike, im typing   gksudo sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[02:33] <Protocol1> the place where no one ever sleeps
[02:33] <sohmc> fbn:: are you running bash?
[02:33] <Healot> buy Operating System Sixth Edition book?
[02:33] <tristanmike> slabby, but what's the file name that you downloaded ?
[02:33] <fbn> sohmc: yes, ubuntu's default
[02:33] <Healot> the one with those Dinosaurs on the cover
[02:34] <sohmc> fbn:: export PATH=/your/path/here:$PATH
[02:34] <slabby> tristanmike, et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[02:34] <Healot> Storkme, i think it's the medium... or the iso file.... that may cause the error
[02:34] <fbn> sohmc: how can I do this system wide? which configuration file?
[02:34] <sohmc> fbn:: or reverse the two, depending on your preference
[02:34] <tristanmike> slabby, so that's the actual filename? not the one off of the wiki
[02:34] <sohmc> fbn:: I'd recommend only doing a system-wide change if *REALLY* need to
[02:35] <Storkme> Healot, no, it's the second iso i've tried it with
[02:35] <fbn> sohmc: I understand that, but where can I set it system wide and persistent?
[02:35] <fbn> sohmc: it's really necessary, I'm installing courier-mta :)
[02:35] <Protocol1> im trying to use java and it wont work for....I had it installed properly and had it working just a few days ago....can anyone guess what might be wrong?
[02:35] <slabby> tristanmike, yes that is what im looking at in the directory on my computer now
[02:35] <Healot> you were using a CD-RW, Storkme ?
[02:35] <tristanmike> slabby, and where did you save the file? to your Desktop?
[02:35] <sohmc> fbn:: for courier-mta?
[02:35] <fbn> sohmc: I thought it's in /etc/profile but there is nothing with PATH
[02:35] <slabby> tristanmike, ~/downloads/et/
[02:36] <sohmc> fbn:: you set path in your ~/.bashrc
[02:36] <fbn> sohmc: yes, courier-mta from sources (ubuntu packages are a bit too old)
[02:36] <Healot> !tell Protocol1 about java
[02:36] <Protocol1> i try to go to yahoo chat but theres just a blank screen with no errors
[02:36] <sohmc> fbn:: but getting courier-mta to see it is a different deal
[02:36] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: open firefox and type in the address bar about:plugins   it will show you if java plugin is active
[02:36] <tristanmike> slabby, so you "cd ~/downloads/et/"
[02:36] <gnomefreak> installed used
[02:36] <cppnewbie> wtf that happened and i never put it to happen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9748
[02:36] <slabby> tristanmike, yes
[02:36] <Protocol1> gnomefrea: ok
[02:36] <cppnewbie> i havent yet pressed ok but its ready to do it
[02:36] <fbn> sohmc: okay ... but there must be a system wide setting, where does the PATH variable come from?
[02:36] <Protocol1> gnomefreak, ok
[02:36] <sohmc> fbn:: brb....gotta go to the bathroom
[02:37] <steinar> Anyone able to help me upgrade firefox ?
[02:37] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> better not remove the package you are wanting to remove :p
[02:37] <Healot> all my java jre/jdk problem is settled when I use make-jpkg
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ff1.5
[02:37] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:37] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:37] <Alexi5> i heard that microsoft was steal some of kde designs and are putting them in Vista
[02:37] <cppnewbie> hymntolife problem is that i never put it to remove anything. i just tried to install usbview and i saw that it wanted to uninstall these as well
[02:37] <ruzgar> i have same problem with gnomefreak
[02:37] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i have fixed the problem for konqueror (persian fonts) but firefox is still no displaying the fonts properly
[02:37] <oskude> sry for OT, but dont know a better place to post. is there a channel for freenode "newbie" questions ?
[02:37] <steinar> tnx :)
[02:38] <Isildur> steinar mhh in the german wiki there is a description maybe have a look if in the english one theres also a description how to upgrade ff
[02:38] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: if your using ff1.5 it could be an issue with that
[02:38] <tristanmike> slabby, and you "gksudo sh ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run" ?
[02:38] <Isildur> ok  has been postet above sry
[02:38] <deFrysk> oskude, /j #help
[02:38] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: can you tell me that where firefox looks for fonts
[02:38] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:38] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:38] <oskude> deFrysk, doh. thnx
[02:38] <slabby> tristanmike, yes
[02:38] <gnomefreak> ^^^^upgrade info
[02:38] <cppnewbie> so what do i do? apt-get? :S
[02:38] <sohmc> fbn:: sorry about that
[02:38] <abhishek> any one to help a beginner
[02:38] <tristanmike> slabby, hmmm, well, something's not right
[02:38] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: not off hand
[02:38] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: no my other system with gentoo has no problem
[02:38] <sohmc> !anyone
[02:38] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[02:38] <tristanmike> slabby, is the file excuetable?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: ubuntu isnt gentoo
[02:38] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: not off hand? what do you mean
[02:39] <sohmc> fbn:: I believe it's /etc/bashrc
[02:39] <Nogimics> Can anyone help me with firebird Firewall I have locked myself out from using VNC lol
[02:39] <slabby> tristanmike, how do i know if it is?
[02:39] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i know
[02:39] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: i would have to search for it the same as you would
[02:39] <Protocol1> gnomefreak, everything under java 1.5.0_06-b05 is enabled with a yes
[02:39] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: i am using firefox on gentoo as well
[02:39] <HymnToLife> firebird LOL
[02:39] <ruzgar> linuxboyfriend
[02:39] <Healot> KDE is an open project, anyone can adopt it, even Microsoft... cool
[02:39] <ruzgar> my firefox
[02:39] <tristanmike> slabby, right click on it and check permissions
[02:39] <sohmc> fbn:: on my system, its /etc/bash.bashrc
[02:39] <fbn> sohmc: there is a /etc/bash.bashrc file but also no PATH defined in this file ...
[02:39] <ruzgar> doesnt show java plugins
[02:39] <HymnToLife> they didn't think too long for that name
[02:39] <linuxboyfriend> ruzgar: yes
[02:39] <linuxboyfriend> !
[02:39] <ubotu> linuxboyfriend: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: im not sure why its not using it
[02:39] <HymnToLife> why not Thunderfox ? :p
[02:39] <sohmc> fbn:: you'll have to set it...
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ruzgar: you need to install java
[02:39] <sohmc> fbn:: I don't think this will solve yoru problem though
[02:40] <Protocol1> hmm
[02:40] <sohmc> fbn:: most scripts run sh, not bash
[02:40] <gnomefreak> hynthunderbird?
[02:40] <fbn> sohmc: but then the default will be overwritten ... I don't want that, I want to extend the system's default path
[02:40] <JoshT> gnomefreak, once I run dpkg and it finds dependencies that are missing, can I then run Synaptic to pick them up?
[02:40] <Healot> linuxboyfriend -> very intimidating nick
[02:40] <ruzgar> can i install wit an apt-get code
[02:40] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: thunderbird?
[02:40] <ruzgar> or a bit complicated way ?
[02:40] <linuxboyfriend> Healot: what is the meaning of intimidating?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> JoshT: running dpkg sould install what it needs
[02:40] <sohmc> fbn:: right... when you do export=/your/path:$PATH, your essentially adding a path to the beginning of your already pre-defined path
[02:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ruzgar about javadebs
[02:41] <sohmc> fbn:: I believe the $PATH variable is set at compile time
[02:41] <fbn> sohmc: at compile time? of which program?
[02:41] <sohmc> fbn:: bash
[02:41] <frag79> Could someone help woth problems installing nvidia drivers? I'm using the i686 kernel and it cannot find the nvidia kernel when I type startx
[02:41] <JoshT> gnomefreak, Hmm, that's what I thought it'd do but for whatever reason it just failed and told me that there were missing dependencies.
[02:41] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> I was just kidding around on the fact that the Firebird developpers didn't try too much to find out the name of their stuff
[02:41] <sohmc> fbn:: but like I said, I don't think this will solve your problem.
[02:41] <deFrysk> !nvidia
[02:41] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[02:41] <gnomefreak> JoshT: run sudo apt-get install   just type that no package name
[02:41] <tristanmike> how we doin' slabby ?
[02:41] <ruzgar> gnomefreak thanks i'll try
[02:41] <sohmc> fbn:: if courier-mta is runnign it's own shell (which is HIGHLY likely) changing your bash path will not solve your problem
[02:42] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: ahhhhhh
[02:42] <Protocol1> gnomefreak, i wonder what to do from here
[02:42] <JoshT> gnomefreak, okay I'll give it a shot.  Thanks.
[02:42] <Protocol1> uninstall java and re-install it?
[02:42] <frag79> I've tried following the howto on nvidia but still no luck
[02:42] <slabby> !pastebin
[02:42] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: i would check with #firefox first
[02:42] <fbn> sohmc: I see ... I'll try to set the new PATH for the courier system user
[02:42] <deFrysk> frag79, on dapper ?
[02:42] <fbn> sohmc: thanks!
[02:42] <sohmc> fbn:: hope that helps
[02:43] <DoTheRodeo> is there anyway to clean up your temp files, i mean all temp files i don't need
[02:43] <sohmc> fbn:: just by way of suggestion, you may want to look at courier's wrapper script
[02:43] <sohmc> DoTheRodeo:: can you be more specific?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> frag79: you might need to go into dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and get the nvidia setting
[02:43] <fbn> sohmc: you mean the init.d-script?
[02:43] <sohmc> DoTheRodeo:: do you mean in firefox
[02:43] <frag79> no on breezy...I've always installed with the module helper and the sources on debian and had no problems, but i would like to use the pre compiled driver
[02:43] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: apt-get clean should work
[02:43] <DoTheRodeo> yeah, like the cache, opened files
[02:43] <sohmc> fbn:: well, what's the error your getting from courier?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> in firefox its in the setting menu
[02:44] <frag79> gnomefreak- I tried that to
[02:44] <slabby> tristanmike, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9749
[02:44] <DoTheRodeo> what would apt-get clean do?
[02:44] <Protocol1> gnomefreak, you think i should look at some settings in the browser?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: it cleans up your fs of cache and crap
[02:44] <deFrysk> frag79, if you have an "older" nvidia-card, make sure to use the legacy package
[02:44] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: no i would check with #firefox on that
[02:44] <Protocol1> ok
[02:45] <tristanmike> slabby, so no permissions
[02:45] <tristanmike> slabby, you can try putting a check box in the "execute" for "owner" and retry, I'll be back in a minute or two
[02:45] <gnomefreak> frag79: what ubuntu version are you on?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> what nvidia card do you have?
[02:45] <slabby> tristanmike, ok will try
[02:45] <fbn> sohmc: no error (yet?) but courier install script installed into /usr/lib/courier/bin and sbin and I don't want to type the commands with full qualified path
[02:46] <fbn> sohmc: that courier itself could run into errors - I've not thought about that yet until you've mentioned it :)
[02:46] <frag79> I do have an older card, so I use the legacy package, the strange thing is that the nvidia-glx-config enable doesn't work, i have to edit xorg.config manually, I't running breezy
[02:46] <sohmc> fbn:: have you considered sym-linking the executibles into your current path?
[02:46] <frag79> daimond viper 550
[02:47] <frag79> it is a riva tnt i believe
[02:47] <sohmc> fbn:: I think you may have inadvertantly created more problems than solved....(I do the same thing all the time)
[02:47] <fbn> sohmc: You will also need to add /usr/lib/courier/bin and /usr/lib/courier/sbin (for the root user only) to the default PATH - that's what the courier documentation says
[02:47] <gnomefreak> frag79: did you grab the nvidia-settings also?
[02:47] <fbn> sohmc: that's why I'm asking for the default path ...
[02:47] <frag79> Yes but I haven't tried using it yet
[02:47] <sohmc> fbn:: hmm...well, just to be clear, is courier some sort of mail program?
[02:47] <deFrysk> frag79, not sure what goes wrong then, I never had probs withit, although it could be breezy does not recognize your moniter or mobo properly
[02:48] <deFrysk> monitor*
[02:48] <fbn> sohmc: yes, courier consists of mta, mda, pop3d, imapd
[02:48] <gnomefreak> frag79: is it safe to assume you restarted X?
[02:48] <fbn> sohmc: so it's a mail sever not a client
[02:48] <DoTheRodeo> what would apt-get clean do?
[02:48] <frag79> Yes, and even tried rebooting
[02:48] <nm> dotherodeo: man apt-get
[02:48] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: it will clean you fyftem of packages that are not needed
[02:49] <Protocol1> gnomefreak, if I upgraded to ff 1.5.0.1 would it make a difference on what plugins I used?
[02:49] <sohmc> fbn:: I don't think changing your default path for your entire machine is necessary...I'd just make the necessary changes in your ~/.bashrc file and root's ~/.bashrc
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: not really
[02:49] <slabby> tristanmike, i dont quite know what i did but its installed
[02:49] <gnomefreak> java plugin is a java plugin
[02:49] <Protocol1> because I did create a .deb file for java
[02:49] <Jiv001> hi
[02:49] <fbn> sohmc: okay I'll try that ... thanks again for your help - appreciate it!
[02:49] <sohmc> fbn:: changing the default path for your entire machine could pose more problems, at least in my experience
[02:49] <slabby> tristanmike, im guessing i follow the rest of the guide to set it up for map downloads etc
[02:49] <sohmc> fbn:: you're welcome
[02:49] <Protocol1> so i could install at anytime
[02:49] <Protocol1> i should burn a copy of it actually
[02:49] <Protocol1> heh
[02:50] <Jiv001> can I ask what is exactly the difference between ubuntu and  debian ?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: the 1.5 install instructions tells you how to keep your settings
[02:50] <Protocol1> ok
[02:50] <frag79> Also, it I follow the howto to the letter, it wants to install the linux-386 kernel even though i use the 686 one. To get aroun this I install the linux-restricted-modules-686-nvidia-legacy package before all the others
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Jiv001: ubuntu is updated sooner its released every 6 months
[02:50] <deFrysk> Jiv001, ubuntu is more user friendly , upgraded every half year thus more recent packageg
[02:50] <deFrysk> packages
[02:50] <gnomefreak> and ubuntu is not debian
[02:50] <max300> hi i cant get my sound to work. Im running ubuntu. Could it be the sound deamon since it works on kubuntu?
[02:51] <HymnToLife> that doesn't explain him what the difference is ;)
[02:51] <Nogimics> Anyone know how I can configure fiirestarter firewall in command line pls? I have locked myself out from using VNC
[02:51] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: it should
[02:51] <Healot> max300, maybe
[02:51] <HymnToLife> Nogimics> you can't
[02:51] <Isildur> max300 your lsmod would be helpful I guess
[02:51] <HymnToLife> Firestarter is a GTK frontend for iptables
[02:51] <Jiv001> ok but why everyone choosing ubuntu why not other variants of debian such  as knoppix.. I want to understand
[02:51] <max300> ok i'll try thx
[02:52] <gnomefreak> Jiv001: the reasons given above
[02:52] <Lord_Maynoth> does anyone know where I can get firefox 1.5.0.1 for ubuntu?  is there a repository that has up to date packages???
[02:52] <Nogimics> Surely in command line I could disable firestarter then VNC in and configure HymnToLife?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> isnt knopppix a live cd only?
[02:52] <Isildur> 1.5 should update automaticly
[02:52] <frag79> could it be a bug in the 686 kernel? I guess I could try using the 386 kernel.
[02:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Lord_Maynoth about ff1.5
[02:52] <Jiv001> knoppix can be installed on hd too
[02:52] <ruzgar> gnomefreak that can be installed
[02:52] <Jiv001> ok
[02:52] <ruzgar> but i that works not good
[02:52] <HymnToLife> Nogimics> I don't think so
[02:52] <Jiv001> so how about the root problem , is it still no root in ubuntu?
[02:52] <Isildur> but its not what it was designed for
[02:52] <gnomefreak> 1.5 in breezy will not be updated through breezy
[02:53] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> it works very good
[02:53] <Nogimics> Is there an official IRC channel for firestarter?
[02:53] <HymnToLife> !root
[02:53] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:53] <Healot> yeah... in what repos is ff1.5?
[02:53] <HymnToLife> ther IS a root
[02:53] <Storkme> hi, i get this error when trying to burn an iso image to a cdrw in gnomebaker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9746
[02:53] <ruzgar> HymnToLife i mean that is not good for starter like me :)
[02:53] <gnomefreak> Jiv001: there is no problem with it sud or sudo -i
[02:53] <HymnToLife> but it is disabled by default
[02:53] <gnomefreak> sudo*
[02:53] <Isildur> gnomefreak, but ff has an auto-update function if I'm right
[02:53] <deFrysk> Healot, its in dapper and never wil be in breezy
[02:53] <HymnToLife> you can enable it but it's pretty useless
[02:53] <gnomefreak> Isildur: yes it does
[02:53] <gnomefreak> Isildur: thats from ff not ubuntu
[02:53] <Healot> "sudo passwd root" at first login...
[02:53] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> how is it not good ?
[02:53] <Jiv001> yes bt can I enter a GUI as root
[02:53] <HymnToLife> just run the commands
[02:54] <HymnToLife> efen if you don't understand what they do
[02:54] <HymnToLife> in the end it will work
[02:54] <DoTheRodeo> i had to set a passwd for my root account at first
[02:54] <ruzgar> HymnToLife my monitor is not work properly
[02:54] <Healot> that will enable "su"
[02:54] <Isildur> gnomefreak, thats true but who cares?^^
[02:54] <Lord_Maynoth> thanks but is there a repo which has it?
[02:54] <deFrysk> Lord_Maynoth, no
[02:54] <aias_> Nogimics, sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop
[02:55] <Nogimics> aias_ i'll try that, thanks
[02:55] <lim^korea>   
[02:55] <tristanmike> slabby, sorry, had to step away
[02:55] <deFrysk> Lord_Maynoth, it would take too many upgraded deps to get a fiferox1.5.deb in breezy going
[02:55] <gnomefreak> Lord_Maynoth: not in breezy no
[02:55] <Healot> well.. ff doesn't have update function... not in ubuntu release though
[02:55] <tristanmike> slabby, so it's installed? and working?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> the whole page with instructions takes 10 minsutes to do
[02:55] <Jiv001> what will be the diff. between the alpha release and the official release.. anything to be added?..
[02:55] <Isildur> Haelot thats true but when you've updated to ff1.5 it has
[02:55] <lim^korea> where are your from?
[02:56] <Storkme> hi, i get this error when trying to burn an iso image to a cdrw in gnomebaker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9746
[02:56] <Bennett> automatix installs firefox 1.5.0.1
[02:56] <gnomefreak> Jiv001: not as of now no
[02:56] <gnomefreak> dont use automatix
[02:56] <deFrysk> Healot, the packages in a stable version of ubuntu are frozen meaning no upgrades will be added
[02:56] <HymnToLife> Storkme> use k3b ;)
[02:56] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[02:56] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:56] <Jiv001> ok so it has the latest gnome ?
[02:56] <frag79> does anyone have nvidia driver working with the 686 kernel and modules
[02:56] <Storkme> HymnToLife, k3b doesn't work either :\
[02:56] <deFrysk> Healot, only for security reasons there might be an upgrade
[02:56] <gnomefreak> Jiv001: it will right now its got the beta
[02:57] <Jiv001> ok i wana download it any bittorrent link ?
[02:57] <slabby> tristanmike, yes working, just no sound atm == following the guide
[02:57] <Healot> lim^korea, : hanguk saram imnikka?
[02:57] <Lord_Maynoth> I downloaded an autopackage of FireFox 1.5 and its up and running
[02:57] <Nogimics> aias_Worked a treat, thank you
[02:57] <Lord_Maynoth> that was easy
[02:57] <topyli> Jiv001: ubuntu always has the latest gnome. the unstable ubuntu versions have unstable gnome versions
[02:57] <Healot> yeah... it's cumbersome update for FF in ubuntu release
[02:57] <chibifs> Hey everyone, I'm back! :D
[02:58] <Healot> the latest 1.0.7 release for breezy is quite stable..
[02:58] <aias_> Nogimics, yw
[02:58] <Nogimics> :)
[02:58] <gnomefreak> Lord_Maynoth: what autopackage?
[02:58] <tristanmike> slabby, good to see running, not so good with the sound, I didn't have any troubles, so i'm sorry to hear
[02:58] <tristanmike> slabby, you may also have to manually update punkbuster
[02:58] <lim^korea> Healot, Yes
[02:59] <slabby> tristanmike, do you do it the same as with would with the "W" word
[02:59] <chibifs> That dirty thing with the unsupported hardware is over. Couldn't wait 'til dappers release to switch back to ubuntu, so I grabbed up an old netinstall cd and went with it.
[02:59] <tristanmike> slabby, I wouldn't know ;)
[02:59] <chibifs> :D
[02:59] <slabby> tristanmike, k
[03:00] <chibifs> Now, my questions are two: First, does anyone know where they wacom driver for xorg went? I had to dig out an old mouse because it's missing.
[03:00] <tristanmike> slabby, when i tried to sign on to a pb server, it kicked me cause my pb was out of date, I went to the pb site and downloaded appropriate file and it worked "eventually"
[03:01] <slabby> tristanmike, i dont like the "eventually"
[03:01] <chibifs> Second, I'm running XGL server right now, does anyone with experience with it know if I can display other 3d somehow? glxgears shows no picture.
[03:01] <tristanmike> slabby, well, the second time
[03:01] <savon> some one nows how to fix the fullscreen bugg in mplayer?
[03:01] <tristanmike> slabby, i'm still pretty new so i think i flubbed the first time
[03:01] <slabby> tristanmike, usually you just execute the pbweb.x86 file inside the pb folder
[03:01] <Healot> the package of FF from mozilla site?
[03:01] <Healot> they don't have amd64 port...
[03:01] <Healot> rather package it from source...
[03:02] <tristanmike> slabby, really? lemme see if there is one
[03:02] <DoTheRodeo> how do you compile a cpp file with gcc?
[03:02] <slabby> tristanmike, there is one on mine but i cant run it
[03:02] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: g++file.cpp -o file
[03:02] <tristanmike> slabby, why?
[03:02] <lim^korea> good night freenode user -from korea
[03:02] <gnomefreak> g++ file.cpp -o file
[03:03] <burning_bronx> how are you today, fellas?
[03:03] <slabby> tristanmike, have a look at it and tell me how you would run it
[03:03] <IdleOne> good morning everybody!  I did an expert install last night ( dont ask why ) in any case it ask me to set a root password so i did and then to set a user and password . How do I add the reg user to sudoers?
[03:03] <DoTheRodeo> what about the libs and stuff?
[03:03] <tristanmike> slabby, where's it at? /usr/local/games/et?
[03:03] <DoTheRodeo> do you have to inlcude em?
[03:03] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: is this a program you wrote?
[03:03] <HymnToLife> IdleOne> add it to the admin group
[03:03] <DoTheRodeo> yeah
[03:03] <gilbert> hi
[03:03] <gilbert> people
[03:03] <slabby> tristanmike, well mines is ~/enemy-territory/pb
[03:03] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: did you add them to the code?
[03:03] <DoTheRodeo> actually its my template
[03:03] <gilbert> anybody can help me
[03:04] <Lord_Maynoth> doesn't firefox 1.5.1 autoupdate or is that just the windows version?
[03:04] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[03:04] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[03:04] <gilbert> wer i can download a driver order to work my webcam creative
[03:04] <gilbert> #ubuntu
[03:04] <slabby> tristanmike, or /home/[NAME] /enemy-territory/pb
[03:04] <gilbert> #ubuntu /j
[03:04] <DoTheRodeo> well, i have my written code named: calcpla.cpp
[03:04] <slabby> tristanmike, then its called pbweb.x86
[03:04] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: that is the command to compile it. if you didnt include# them thats not the compiler fault
[03:04] <tristanmike> slabby, hmm, I don't have it
[03:05] <slabby> tristanmike, you must a have a folder named pb
[03:05] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: g++ calcpla.cpp -o calcpla
[03:05] <DoTheRodeo> its #include
[03:05] <gilbert> how can i work my camera in ubuntu
[03:05] <DoTheRodeo> i have the #includes included
[03:05] <gilbert> how can i get a driver
[03:05] <HymnToLife> !camera
[03:05] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[03:05] <slabby> tristanmike, inside et folder
[03:05] <tristanmike> slabby, yeah, but it's not there, it's in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/blah
[03:05] <IdleOne> HymnToLife,  reg user UID is 1000 is this what I want?
[03:05] <DoTheRodeo> i mean ive included it in the code
[03:05] <tristanmike> slabby, did you use default install directory?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: than run the compile command
[03:05] <slabby> tristanmike, i think so
[03:05] <HymnToLife> no IdleOne
[03:05] <gilbert> hellow how can i get a driver on my camera
[03:05] <gilbert> ubuntu
[03:06] <tristanmike> slabby, better question, did you change anything during the install?
[03:06] <gilbert> creative type of camera
[03:06] <HymnToLife> by memory, you have to run useraddusername admin as root
[03:06] <slabby> tristanmike, dont think so
[03:06] <tristanmike> slabby, hmmm, funny
[03:06] <HymnToLife> useradd username admin*
[03:06] <slabby> tristanmike, try a search for pbweb.x86
[03:06] <gnomefreak> for future refference bring programming questions to 3ubuntu-offtopic
[03:06] <IdleOne> HymnToLife,  could you tell what UID I want to be able to use sudo with reg user?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-offtopic even
[03:06] <tristanmike> slabby, i said i found it, but it's in /usr/local/games/enemy-territory/pb
[03:06] <HymnToLife> what d'you mean ?
[03:06] <a0> I installed bittorrent + -gui, but it does not appear in the gnome menu. how can I start it?
[03:07] <HymnToLife> you can run sudo with whatever user that is in the admin group
[03:07] <Healot> muahaha
[03:07] <gilbert> anybody knows about installation of webcam
[03:07] <gilbert> ubuntu
[03:07] <HymnToLife> !webcam
[03:07] <ubotu> somebody said webcam was now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gilbert about webcam
[03:07] <Healot> using the default /etc/sudoers...
[03:07] <ruzgar> i have installed the sun java debian package
[03:07] <slabby> tristanmike, ok now how would you run that?
[03:07] <ruzgar> *have downloaded
[03:07] <ruzgar> how can i install now
[03:08] <ruzgar> wit synaptic
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ruzgar: is it a .deb?
[03:08] <ruzgar> yes
[03:08] <ompaul> !tell ruzgar about javadeb
[03:08] <gilbert> hi
[03:08] <IdleOne> gnomefreak,  morning ! can you tell me how to add user to admin group?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ruzgar: sudo dpkg - file.deb
[03:08] <ruzgar> ok thanks
[03:08] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> browse to the dir where the .bin file is
[03:08] <gilbert> anybody her knows about webcam setup
[03:08] <gilbert> ubuntu
[03:08] <ompaul> gnomefreak, do that again :P
[03:08] <ruzgar> ok t'll try
[03:08] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: not sure never had to do it but i would try users/groups in your system menu
[03:08] <HymnToLife> and run chomd +x filename .bin && ./filename.bin
[03:08] <marcin`> hi all
[03:08] <ompaul> ruzgar, he has to do that again
[03:08] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:08] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg -i fiole.deb
[03:09] <gnomefreak> file*
[03:09] <Lord_Maynoth> how do you run automatix
[03:09] <ompaul> !automatix
[03:09] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[03:09] <gnomefreak> put all 3 together you will get it right sonner or later lol
[03:09] <tristanmike> slabby, anyway, to run it, cd to the folder, and try "./pbweb.x86"
[03:09] <marcin`> could someone tell me how to add my account to some group from commandline?
[03:09] <a0> I installed bittorrent + -gui, but it does not appear in the gnome menu. how can I start it?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> ompaul: they have been sugesting that and ubuntuguide all morning
[03:09] <gnomefreak> Lord_Maynoth: you dont
[03:09] <ompaul> gnomefreak, ask where it is being prompted from :)
[03:10] <pawsilver> hi there!  I'm using edubuntu on my Compaq nx 5000!  How do i get the blue tooth working?
[03:10] <tristanmike> slabby, but see if it's executeable
[03:10] <slabby> tristanmike, ok
[03:10] <ompaul> Lord_Maynoth, where did you get the "automatix" info?
[03:10] <slabby> tristanmike, it should be
[03:10] <pawsilver> My cellphone asks for a password?  What is it?  where would I go to set it on the notebook?
[03:10] <slabby> tristanmike, in the "W" it is a batch script i believe
[03:10] <aias_> marcin`, sudo addurer <user> <group>
[03:11] <aias_> *adduser :)
[03:11] <tristanmike> slabby, lol, cool
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ompaul: Bennett
[03:11] <Lord_Maynoth> http://beerorkid.com/automatix/
[03:11] <ompaul> Lord_Maynoth, where were you pointed to get there?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ^^^
[03:11] <Lord_Maynoth> google cache
[03:12] <ompaul> ooch
[03:12] <slabby> tristanmike, works for me, auto-update pb :P
[03:12] <ruzgar> gnomefreak console says "dpkg: need an action option
[03:12] <ruzgar> "
[03:12] <Lord_Maynoth> autopackage of Firefox works fine too
[03:12] <tristanmike> slabby, sweet
[03:12] <slabby> tristanmike, i think its working
[03:12] <Healot> gnome-btdownload >> a0
[03:12] <gnomefreak> ruzgar: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:13] <tristanmike> slabby, the file i got from pb was to do all my games (AA and ET)
[03:13] <slabby> tristanmike, just need to get my sound working now
[03:13] <tristanmike> slabby, sweet
[03:13] <ompaul> Bennett, have you been fixing the results of automatix for the last year and a bit?
[03:13] <slabby> tristanmike, looks like it might not be connecting to the server actually
[03:13] <Bennett> I'm not sure what you mean, but i woudl have to say no, why do you ask
[03:13] <a0> Healot: thx
[03:13] <slabby> tristanmike, i never liked AA really, need to try to get my sound working next :)
[03:13] <Healot> pawsilver, just enter any password, but the password must be the same in your cell and Linux
[03:14] <slabby> tristanmike, it is working just bit slow
[03:14] <slabby> tristanmike, one job down :) just my sound now
[03:14] <Healot> just enter '1' on your cell, and then when it prompts your Linux, just enter '1' (without the quote)
[03:14] <gnomefreak> Bennett: automatix has borked alot of systems that we fix in here we dont _ever_ recommend it
[03:14] <tristanmike> slabby,  try adjusting video card settings
[03:14] <pawsilver> How do I set the linux password?
[03:14] <Bennett> oh i see, it works ok for me
[03:14] <ompaul> Bennett, since I have been here I have seen it break machines, please don't advertise it thansk
[03:15] <slabby> tristanmike, for sound ?
[03:15] <Healot> youi don't
[03:15] <ryanakca> pawsilver: you can go passwd in the terminal
[03:15] <DoTheRodeo> passwd <user>
[03:15] <Bennett> ok
[03:15] <pawsilver> Is it the same as my username and password at start up?
[03:15] <slabby> tristanmike, i have latest ATI drivers
[03:15] <tristanmike> slabby, no silly, to speed things up
[03:15] <ruzgar> gnomefreak thanks a alot
[03:15] <slabby> tristanmike, lol
[03:15] <DoTheRodeo> if you want to change a user's password
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ruzgar: yw
[03:15] <tristanmike> slabby, ati, say no more
[03:15] <slabby> tristanmike, why??
[03:15] <tristanmike> slabby, me no fan of ati
[03:15] <slabby> tristanmike, lol i lurv them
[03:15] <Healot> pawsilver, just enter any number on your cell, and the same number at your linux box, Bluetooth util should prompt you after you enter it on your cell...
[03:16] <LoCusF> its 12345
[03:16] <LoCusF> by default
[03:16] <slabby> tristanmike, got to get food in a min, cheers for your help
[03:16] <tristanmike> slabby, nvidia "better" for Linux
[03:16] <tristanmike> slabby, anytime
[03:16] <Healot> just entering '1' on both pc and cell works fine
[03:16] <slabby> tristanmike, you in here often?
[03:16] <tristanmike> slabby, a bit
[03:16] <slabby> tristanmike, may see you around
[03:17] <frag79> Thanks for the suggestions, I guess I will install the drivers the old fashioned way
[03:17] <slabby> tristanmike, i live in here atm, only had ubuntu installed about 2 days
[03:17] <tristanmike> slabby, hope so, good luck with et and i might see you on
[03:17] <Protocol1> gnomefreak, I have downloaded limewire that required java...could that be a conflict?
[03:17] <slabby> tristanmike, i help host a clan, so could post you ip sometime
[03:17] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: i dont think so but nothing is ever that cut and dry
[03:17] <slabby> tristanmike, then see how good you really are :p
[03:17] <tristanmike> slabby, fair enough, see you on the battlefield
[03:18] <slabby> tristanmike, :P
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: ive never used limewire
[03:18] <slabby> tristanmike, cya
[03:18] <pawsilver> thanx!  But its asking for a complex password on linux! can my cell do alpha numerical passwords?
[03:18] <Protocol1> gnomefreak I even updaed my ff 1.5 to 1.5.0.1
[03:18] <Healot> no... not on the cell, pawal
[03:18] <Healot> no... not on the cell, pawsilver
[03:18] <Protocol1> and still the same issue
[03:19] <Protocol1> it says that java is enabled but no cigar
[03:19] <Healot> jsut enter the same numeric password.... on the linux box, as you did on the cell...
[03:19] <Healot> you don't need much of security on bluetooth devices... well at least at home
[03:20] <dmhouse|hwk> hi guys. which package(s) should i install to get windows fonts (e.g. georgia, times new roman)?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dmhouse|hwk about fonts
[03:20] <pawsilver> it wont accept a numeric password on linux:  Keep getting error -->  Bad password to simple
[03:20] <dmhouse|hwk> thanks gnomefreak.
[03:20] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:20] <frag79> one more question, do the nvidia drivers make video playback any faster or just 3d apps? videos seem a little slow
[03:21] <Healot> here is what I did, pawsilver
[03:21] <gilbert> the easycam cant detect my webcamera
[03:21] <Healot> did you edit the /etc/rfcomm.conf file yet?
[03:21] <gilbert> my easycam cant detect my webcamera
[03:21] <Protocol1> i think i should take it easy on myself
[03:22] <gnomefreak> gilbert: that would mean that you most likely need drivers for it than (manual install)
[03:22] <Healot> ok... start at the bottom of it...
[03:22] <Protocol1> Im waiting for dappers release too
[03:22] <ompaul> !dapper
[03:22] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[03:22] <Protocol1> well offficial release that is
[03:22] <gnomefreak> 2 months well little less
[03:22] <ompaul> Protocol1, please take the chat to #
[03:22] <ompaul> ubuntu-offtopic
[03:22] <Healot> if you haven't install ubuntu/edubuntu's bluetooth Manager/File Sharing... then, we'll do the cli thingie
[03:22] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:23] <pawsilver> no
[03:23] <Healot> 1) run 'hciconfig'
[03:24] <Healot> 2) 'hcitool scan' >> it will list any bluetooh device around your adapter...
[03:24] <pawsilver> I have installed the bluetooth manager/File Sharing Healot
[03:24] <Healot> then, use it, pawsilver
[03:24] <Healot> would be easier
[03:24] <pawsilver> how?  It opens up a window and thats it
[03:25] <Healot> click on file -> Scan?
[03:25] <Healot> see if any device around
[03:25] <robin_> I was kicked for what ?
[03:25] <pawsilver> It picks up the phone!  Even gives me the name of the phone!  But thats it
[03:26] <Healot> ok...
[03:26] <pawsilver> From my phone it picks up the laptop and then asks for the password and I don't know what to type
[03:26] <Healot> there supposed to be some menu... when you click right on the bluetooth item?
[03:26] <ompaul> robin_, when?
[03:26] <Healot> type '1'
[03:27] <Healot> and then it will prompt your linux box, enter the same '1' all over
[03:27] <robin_> about 15 hours ago
[03:27] <pawsilver> no there is no right click menu
[03:27] <ompaul> na the network discentgrated
[03:27] <Healot> easy...
[03:27] <robin_> ok
[03:27] <ompaul> freenode died during a reconfig
[03:28] <ompaul> robin_, look at the amount of users here we are down by 200
[03:28] <pawsilver> No still no right click menu??
[03:30] <gnomefreak> he fix the exploit issue? (reason for upgrade to server)
[03:31] <ompaul> gnomefreak, no idea, don't think so
[03:31] <gnomefreak> i havent seen any this am thats why i asked
[03:31] <Healot> pawsilver, there isn't any :)
[03:31] <aias_> ompaul, out of curiosity, did you notice how many people came right back on afterwards?
[03:31] <ompaul> aias_, we were up to 200 fast enough
[03:31] <Healot> well, I have not interest in bots... i like chatting by myself...
[03:31] <steinar> Who sent me te link for upgrading to firefox 1.5 ?? can u send again please ?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell steinar about ff1.5
[03:32] <ompaul> !tell steinar about ff1.5
[03:32] <shivan> some1 german her ?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> ty sir
[03:32] <ompaul> !de
[03:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[03:32] <shivan> need help with ubuntu. Pls help :)
[03:32] <ompaul> !help
[03:32] <gnomefreak> what is the command to see the people in here?
[03:33] <shivan> !help
[03:33] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[03:33] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:33] <johndarkhorse> nickrud: sneaking around under the radar?
[03:33] <ompaul> johndarkhorse, you tell 'im :)
[03:33] <shivan> I have a GForce 5200 FX Graphiccard, Ive downloaded the driver but I dont know how to install it. (sry for my bad english)
[03:34] <nickrud> johndarkhorse, no, I got popped by the netsplit, and came in as my alter-ego. I didn't really notice :)
[03:34] <gnomefreak> we are down by alot :(
[03:34] <ompaul> !tell shivan about nvidia
[03:34] <ompaul> shivan, have a look at the message from the bot
[03:34] <gnomefreak> shivan: i just did that card its simple
[03:35] <shivan> Im a Linux noob^^
[03:35] <gnomefreak> shivan: are you on breezy or dapper?
[03:35] <shivan> Its the first time I am working with it
[03:35] <DoTheRodeo> whatd 'sudo apt-get clean' do again?
[03:35] <pawsilver> Hey Healot,  I got the phone in the manager program but it doesn'y allow me to do anything,  I've tried double clikcking right short cut and properties all of which do not respond???
[03:35] <gnomefreak> DoTheRodeo: its clean useless files cache off sys
[03:35] <jojosan_Ubuntu> hi people
[03:35] <ompaul>  clean  clean clears out  the  local  repository  of  retrieved  packag
[03:35] <jojosan_Ubuntu> I'm running Ubuntu on Debian :)
[03:36] <jojosan_Ubuntu> Chroot rock \o/
[03:36] <jojosan_Ubuntu> (as Ubuntu does often)
[03:36] <DoTheRodeo> i just did it, and it freed me 300MB
[03:36] <DoTheRodeo> wtf?
[03:36] <ompaul> DoTheRodeo, the obvious man apt-get
[03:36] <nickrud> DoTheRodeo, it removed any packages that have been downloaded to/var/cache/apt/archives that are not currently in use
[03:36] <funkyHat> How can I use john to crack a single md5 encoded password?
[03:36] <jojosan_Ubuntu> funkyHat, by emptying your /etc/passwd and letting only the good password availab
[03:36] <Healot> DoTheRodeo, it clears the repos list...
[03:36] <jojosan_Ubuntu> e
[03:36] <DoTheRodeo> im cleaning coz i have only have 2GB out of 5GB
[03:37] <pawsilver> My cellphone gives me the error message Unable to pair with laptop
[03:37] <DoTheRodeo> i cant survive with 2GB
[03:37] <ompaul> pawsilver, return to vendor
[03:37] <funkyHat> jojosan_Ubuntu, passwords aren't stored in passwd
[03:37] <ubuntu> m
[03:37] <jojosan_Ubuntu> funkyHat, then in /etc/shadow
[03:37] <nickrud> DoTheRodeo, err, I described  autoclean, sorry
[03:37] <jojosan_Ubuntu> well, now let's update to dapper drake :)
[03:37] <Healot> meaning, you remove all the extra packages list
[03:38] <pawsilver> lol! Vendor doesn't support linux
[03:38] <penguin42>  <shock>
[03:38] <ompaul> jojosan_Ubuntu, so before you do go to #ubuntu+1
[03:38] <Healot> pawsilver, try googling for Linux Bluetooth, or Linux GPRS
[03:38] <funkyHat> jojosan_Ubuntu, ok then, I'll use shadow as a template to put the hash in
[03:38] <pawsilver> ok!  Thanx I'll try that
[03:38] <pawsilver> Thanx for the help!  Much appreciated
[03:39] <ompaul> pawsilver, do the community a favour and return to vendor and complain "nicely"
[03:39] <Healot> I cannot dump you with command line, pawsilver...
[03:39] <Healot> if you;re willing to join me in a private channel, i think i can clear things up
[03:40] <jojosan_Ubuntu> mmm
[03:40] <pawsilver> Yes thanx Healot
[03:40] <jojosan_Ubuntu> I can't get a gnome-terminal running
[03:40] <pawsilver> that will be great
[03:40] <jojosan_Ubuntu> "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[03:40] <hanasaki> what option tells apt-get to reinstall a package and overwrite Everythign even if some config or .lib  .so files already exist?
[03:40] <Healot> pawsilver, let's join #bluetooth
[03:40] <jojosan_Ubuntu> apitude reinstall
[03:40] <jojosan_Ubuntu> or aptitude purge and aptitude install
[03:40] <pawsilver> ok thanx
[03:40] <jojosan_Ubuntu> apt-get sucks
[03:41] <chaumurky> hey guys "listen" is available again with breezy/dapper debs!
[03:41] <chaumurky> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126080
[03:41] <jojosan_Ubuntu> I mean, you should use aptitude
[03:41] <hanasaki> jojosan_Ubuntu:  lo
[03:41] <hanasaki> jojosan_Ubuntu:  walk me thru it..? i never used aptitute
[03:41] <Healot> apt-get is the base installer, all other install interfaces depends on apt-get :)
[03:41] <jojosan_Ubuntu> hanasaki, it's just the same options as apt-get
[03:41] <hanasaki> i like the command line
[03:41] <jojosan_Ubuntu> aptitude install cmatrix for example
[03:41] <jojosan_Ubuntu> I use only command line apps normally
[03:42] <hanasaki> ok.. so how do i use aptitute to do that
[03:42] <hanasaki> reinstall does not overwrite manually updated files
[03:42] <gnomefreak> sudo aptitude <command>
[03:42] <jojosan_Ubuntu> aptitude purge software
[03:42] <jojosan_Ubuntu> and then aptitude install software is okay
[03:43] <pawsilver> join #bluetooth
[03:43] <pawsilver> what do i type to join a channal again?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> pawsilver: /join #channel
[03:43] <Healot> ... /join #bluetooth
[03:44] <pawsilver> thanx
[03:45] <pawsilver> thanx I'm there Healot
[03:46] <trigx300> hi i installed my nvidia card using the packegs found in synaptic but i cant get my sli enabled and i cant get the screen resolution higher then 1024x768
[03:46] <trigx300> can anyone help me
[03:46] <trigx300> ??
[03:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell trigx300 about fixres
[03:47] <hanasaki> ok.. so why use aptitude when apt-get does the same thing and aptitude is built on it
[03:47] <damian_> does xfce have desktop icons? im trying it only thing i couldnt work out and didnt like
[03:47] <kemik> hanasaki: why use synaptic when it's built atop of apt-get etc...
[03:47] <kemik> hanasaki: the user-interface!
[03:47] <hanasaki> kemik:  lol but he is tell ing me to use it from the command line ..
[03:47] <Buildscharacter> Is there anywhere to go on the net for very basic newbie help? For someone that's never used Linux before? Thoughts?
[03:47] <kemik> not that i care much for either synaptic or aptitude
[03:47] <gnomefreak> hanasaki: aptitude handles downloads better but it really doesnt make a difference
[03:47] <hanasaki> cuaes i like apt-get and the cmd line
[03:47] <hanasaki> k
[03:47] <hanasaki> thanks gnomefreak
[03:48] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[03:48] <gnomefreak> Buildscharacter: what linux distro?
[03:48] <damian_> does xfce have desktop icons? im trying it only thing i couldnt work out and didnt like.
[03:48] <kemik> gnomefreak: how does aptitude handle DL's better ?
[03:48] <Chousuke> actuallty, apt-get and aptitude are both built on top of APT.
[03:48] <Chousuke> which is a library.
[03:48] <gnomefreak> kemik: dont remember i would have to man it again
[03:48] <damian_> does xfce have desktop icons? im trying it only thing i couldnt work out and didnt like.
[03:48] <hanasaki> hehe yup Chousuke
[03:49] <gnomefreak> damian_: open synaptic and search for xfce
[03:49] <kemik> gnomefreak: dont then. i'll doit myself
[03:49] <damian_> ?
[03:49] <ompaul> Buildscharacter, docs.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <damian_> hows that answer my question
[03:50] <GeistDerZeit> Something really strange happened to me. The partition were i put the home of my system got corrupted and the usual fsck on startup detected and suposedly fixed it. But at the login screen i found that the sound was extremely low. I tried to hear different sound archives and they all play ok. However the highest setting in the volume bar produces a output much lower than before. I've no idea of what is happening. Any suggestion?
[03:51] <damian_> does xfce have desktop icons? im trying it only thing i couldnt work out and didnt like.
[03:51] <kemik> GeistDerZeit: try alsa-mixer and raise the mastervolume/PCM
[03:51] <kemik> if you're using alsa... ;)
[03:51] <GeistDerZeit> Thanks... yes, i'm using alsa
[03:51] <kemik> or was it alsamixer
[03:52] <trigx300> gnomefreak, i tried that already but nothing
[03:52] <damian_> btw this bitchx sucks why am i suing it
[03:52] <damian_> using
[03:52] <kemik> damian_: irrsi is slightly better
[03:52] <kemik> damian_: but really, xchat is way better :)
[03:52] <kemik> *irssi
[03:52] <damian_> yeah
[03:52] <damian_> was just trying this dont see what the fuss is all about
[03:52] <filles> zer
[03:52] <filles> ffds
[03:53] <filles> rep
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[03:54] <ompaul> !good morning
[03:54] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[03:54] <ompaul> !morning
[03:54] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[03:55] <elkbuntu> ubotu sooo needs those entries
[03:55] <ubotu> elkbuntu: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:55] <ompaul> !goodmorning
[03:55] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
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[03:56] <elkbuntu> hehe
[03:56] <GeistDerZeit> Thanks again! It was really the alsamixer settings that changed. Now it's all right. One more added to my trouble-shoot how-to.
[03:57] <IAmAI> Hello.
[03:57] <damian_> how do i register with services/
[03:57] <DoTheRodeo> why fbsd not considered linux?
[03:57] <gnomefreak> damian_: with freenode?
[03:57] <DoTheRodeo> coz its a kernel?
[03:58] <damian_> yeah
[03:58] <Kr4t05> Does Ubuntu (or Linux in general) employ any sort of DDO to it's hard disks?
[03:58] <gnomefreak> damian_: /msg nickserv register password
[03:58] <gnomefreak> replace password with yours
[03:58] <DoTheRodeo> so it means, you can't run Xserver and stuff on it?
[03:58] <IAmAI> Can anyone help me troubleshoot an error with gksudo?
[03:58] <Healot> dd0?
[03:58] <ompaul> DoTheRodeo, cos it is different, and has a different licence
[03:58] <gnomefreak> IAmAI: does it open after the error?
[03:59] <DoTheRodeo> how is different?
[03:59] <max-power> thanks
[03:59] <Kr4t05> Because, I'm using an old tower as a server, and it had the 8GB Limit in the BIOS, however, Ubuntu is able to see the full 15GB of HDD space
[03:59] <DoTheRodeo> i don't see no diff most cmd are the same
[03:59] <bunniears> hi guys
[03:59] <gnomefreak> hi
[03:59] <Ribs> Kr4t05: There is a kernel workaround which describes exactly what you're saying... but I do not know the method it uses.
[04:00] <Ribs> Kr4t05: So, it's a Linux thing, not a Ubuntu thing
[04:00] <Kr4t05> Ribs: Sweet
[04:00] <Kr4t05> I lurve Linux!
[04:00] <bunniears> can someone help please
[04:00] <Kr4t05> :D
[04:00] <ompaul> DoTheRodeo, most - the kernel is build in a different way, please take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:00] <max-power> can  i safely get rid of gnome and all its programs?
[04:00] <Ribs> And Mr Gates would have you believe Linux isn't any good with old hardware ;)
[04:00] <gnomefreak> bunniears: what can we do for you
[04:00] <bunniears> well, i have installed ubuntu as a server, with the server command
[04:01] <bunniears> and i have now installed xubuntu
[04:01] <IAmAI> gnomefreak: If I try 'gksudo gedit .profile' I get the following error message: http://pastebin.com/585058
[04:01] <bunniears> how can i get to the add/remove users program?
[04:01] <max-power> can  i safely get rid of gnome and all its programs?
[04:01] <max-power> can  i safely get rid of gnome and all its programs?
[04:01] <max-power> can  i safely get rid of gnome and all its programs?
[04:01] <LjL> IAmAI: uhm perhaps try with a simple "sudo"
[04:01] <gnomefreak> IAmAI: did you try sudo?
[04:02] <IAmAI> Yes. I broke my login by using it with 'kate'.
[04:02] <Ribs> max-power: Repeating your question in such a manner will only get you banned.
[04:02] <gnomefreak> if you editing a file its nomarlly text sudo will do it
[04:02] <LjL> max-power: can you safely ask your question once? yes.
[04:02] <IAmAI> gnomefreak: Apparently I shouldn't use 'sudo' with GUI apps.#
[04:02] <lian> anyone able to help me with write access with ntfs for ubuntu?
[04:02] <gnomefreak> IAmAI: right
[04:02] <IAmAI> gnomefreak: I used to, until I broke my login.
[04:02] <johndarkhorse> lian: writing to ntfs is a dangerous activity
[04:02] <gnomefreak> IAmAI: like for synaptic you would use gksudo
[04:02] <LjL> IAmAI: that's why gksudo exists i suppose - but then, i'll admit to always using sudo for GUI apps :)
[04:03] <ftwig> ime having a problem setting up php4/mysql5/apache2.  When php tries to connect to MySQL I get 'Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect()' any ideas?
[04:03] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell IAmAI about kdesu
[04:03] <lian> so ive heard, john
[04:03] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell IAmAI about gksudo
[04:03] <LjL> max-power: anyway you can, depending on how you're going to do it. there are a few programs, i think, that bear some relationship to Gnome, but are also included in Kubuntu
[04:03] <IAmAI> johndarkhorse: ubotu has told me all about it, except how to make it work.
[04:04] <LjL> max-power: i think removing "libgnome2-0" would be relatively safe
[04:04] <IAmAI> I know how it's 'supposed' to work, but it isn't.
[04:04] <johndarkhorse> lian: if you are all set to clear your system of ntfs partitions, you may edit your fstab
[04:04] <bunniears> *puppy dog eyes*
[04:04] <proxosi> hi anyone know about domain fowarding / webhost here?
[04:04] <HappyFool> i'd use debfoster to remove gnome; keep only say kubuntu-desktop
[04:04] <gnomefreak> bunniears: what ubuntu version do you have?
[04:04] <ompaul> max-power, sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome
[04:05] <bunniears> gnomefreak, 5.10
[04:05] <gnomefreak> bunniears: it should be in the settings or tools menu
[04:05] <ompaul> max-power, might be faster to reinstall
[04:05] <gnomefreak> they didnt backport xfce did they?
[04:05] <enkrav> Hello, when I do ctrl-- in Firefox it shrinks fonts correctly, but id does not have any effect on the *printed/printpreview* page whatsoever.
[04:05] <sumac> wats popin peeps
[04:06] <bunniears> gnomefreak, it's not, i've looked :( :/
[04:06] <gnomefreak> cool
[04:06] <sumac> who wants to chat den
[04:06] <johndarkhorse> sumac: ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:06] <gnomefreak> bunniears: is the menu ona  right click or is it in the panel?
[04:06] <enkrav> so, anybody knows how to print with smaller fonts? Openoffice on 5.10 crashes everytime I paste something in, and abiword doesn't copy images
[04:06] <sumac> ooohhhhh    wat
[04:07] <bunniears> gnomefreak, a panel at the bottom
[04:07] <Howbag> Anyone know what could be wrong when the sound just stops working after a while? (not mute or lowered volume)
[04:07] <sumac> whos joined wat
[04:07] <LjL> sumac: this is a channel exclusively dedicated to Ubuntu support. you can join the -offtopic channel, there you can falk "freely"
[04:07] <LjL> sumac: typing   /join #ubuntu-offtopic   will get you there
[04:07] <sumac> please hat
[04:07] <gnomefreak> ok if you click the menu in system do you see gnome anything?
[04:07] <johndarkhorse> sumac: #ubuntu is for help and support of Ubuntu linux. #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chatting
[04:07] <sumac> bye bye peeps
[04:08] <sumac> goodbyye
[04:08] <HappyFool> tata
[04:08] <LjL> (how's he talking?)
[04:08] <TomTom_> hi sir, how can i change the hostname of my computer ?
[04:08] <gnomefreak> bunniears: if you see gnome there might be an arrow next to it and it will bring up gnome-control
[04:08] <johndarkhorse> TomTom_: 'man hostname'
[04:08] <bunniears> gnomefreak, its the xfce one
[04:08] <LjL> !tell TomTom_ about hostname
[04:09] <HappyFool> also, make sure you add your new hostname to /etc/hosts *first*, or sudo will break
[04:09] <LjL> TomTom_: take a little care! i once advised someone to simply edit /etc/hostname, and that was *NOT* a good idea
[04:09] <gnomefreak> bunniears: ok than it should be in xfce control im not on xfce atm im trying to do this by memory and its hard
[04:09] <gnomefreak> ok hold on ill switch wm
[04:10] <johndarkhorse> someone should tell gnomefreak about irssi+screen
[04:10] <cppnewbie> hey everyone, i reinstalled ubuntu with 64 bit edition. afaik support for 32 bit apps right now isnt there. how can i get 32 bit apps back on?
[04:10] <LjL> cppnewbie: install qemu
[04:10] <LjL> cppnewbie: just kidding :)
[04:10] <TomTom_> i'm french so i don't understand everything :)
[04:10] <cppnewbie> lol
[04:10] <LjL> !fr
[04:10] <ubotu> it has been said that fr is Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais
[04:11] <johannes_> any 1 know how to install Yanc i ubuntu?
[04:11] <cppnewbie> so how do i install and run 32 bit apps now?
[04:11] <Protocol2> has there been any kernel updates lately?
[04:11] <cppnewbie> afaik something called 32 bit chroot or something?
[04:11] <Frogzoo> Protocol2: nope noafaik
[04:11] <Protocol2> official ones i meant
[04:11] <sumac> wats ubuntu
[04:11] <LjL> cppnewbie: i would love to know 'cause that would mean i'd have a 64 bit processor. but i don't :-)
[04:12] <LjL> sumac: it's a Linux distribution
[04:12] <Frogzoo> Protocol2: 2.6.12.10 - 686 - been that way for 4 weeks
[04:12] <ftwig> ime having a problem setting up php4/mysql5/apache2.  When php tries to connect to MySQL I get 'Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect()' any ideas?
[04:12] <sumac> oooohhhhh
[04:12] <cppnewbie> well LjL, in 32 bit ubuntu there was kde. here there isnt kde. no way to get it then? :S
[04:12] <Protocol2> ok cool
[04:12] <Protocol2> thats what I run
[04:12] <sumac> is this a bissness thing
[04:12] <markl> is the 686 kernel best for the amd64 processors?  i am using 386 now
[04:12] <LjL> cppnewbie: no kde in the 64 bit version? that seems strange
[04:12] <rysiek|pl> !tell sumac about ubuntu
[04:12] <markl> 3500+
[04:12] <sumac> if oit is then im off
[04:12] <cppnewbie> well LjL at least not in synaptic as kde
[04:12] <LjL> sumac: it's what?
[04:12] <cppnewbie> what other name does it have
[04:12] <enkrav> I found a bug, Printing with two pages on one physical page does not work. Is it just me?
[04:13] <sumac> im off
[04:13] <bunniears> wb gnomefreak
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:13] <rysiek|pl> !tell rysiek|pl about awards
[04:13] <ftwig> sumac:http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:13] <LjL> cppnewbie: you should always hit kde by installing "kubuntu-desktop". but really, i don't know anything about the 64 bit version, it just hits me as strange that no kde is there
[04:13] <sumac> good bye by the way im only 11
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ok when you bring menu up you will see xfce
[04:13] <gnomefreak> with an arrow
[04:13] <LjL> sumac: you meant if it's a business thing? i.e. commercial? then no it isn't
[04:14] <bunniears> yep
[04:14] <Protocol2> gnomefreak, if i remove all KDE file manually from synaptic will it mess up anything on my gnome?
[04:14] <sumac> is this just chat
[04:14] <gnomefreak> bunniears: go to systems
[04:14] <bunniears> gnomefreak, yeah
[04:14] <johndarkhorse> sumac: type /j #ubuntu-offtopic please and chat away
[04:14] <Protocol2> i dont really care for kde
[04:14] <gnomefreak> bunniears: the last one in the systems menu on mine is users and groups
[04:14] <LjL> sumac: nope, not really, we only help people with Ubuntu here...
[04:14] <sumac> where should i type it
[04:14] <bunniears> gnomefreak, it's not there at all :S
[04:14] <LjL> sumac: right here
[04:15] <Protocol2> I installed it a few weeks ago but I am trying to find an easy way to uninstall it
[04:15] <gnomefreak> ok bunniears let me look through mone see if anything is the same as it used to be
[04:15] <bunniears> gnomefreak, i only have 4 in there, the last one being fstab mount..
[04:15] <lian> johndarkhorse, so ill only have to change from default to RW in fstab to enable  write for my ntfsdisk ?
[04:15] <bunniears> thanks gnomefreak
[04:15] <Frogzoo> lian: ntfs write isn't stable
[04:16] <gnomefreak> and you want add remove users right bunniears ?
[04:16] <LjL> Frogzoo, lian: and that's an understatement i guess
[04:16] <bunniears> gnomefreak, Yepp
[04:16] <sumac> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:16] <lian> how unstable is it?
[04:16] <LjL> sumac: no --     /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:16] <Frogzoo> lian: it's pretty alpha
[04:16] <LjL> sumac: with the / slash and # pound
[04:16] <sumac> oooohhhhh
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> lian: you may lose your ntfs partition
[04:16] <rysiek|pl> lian, Frogzoo: well, there is a way of writing to ntfs... with M$'s drivers! :)
[04:16] <rysiek|pl> gimme a sec
[04:16] <HymnToLife> lian > it can just mess up your windows partition but who cares about them ?
[04:16] <sumac> wt a pound sign
[04:17] <Frogzoo> rysiek|pl: using Paragon's solution ?
[04:17] <LjL> sumac: # is a pound sign... or at least that's how i call it in english
[04:17] <rysiek|pl> what was it?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> bunniears: do you have the debian menu it will say apps with arrow than games so on and so forth?
[04:17] <sumac> are u lot computer whizzes or summat
[04:17] <Frogzoo> sumac: nope - we just hang out here when the bus shelter's full
[04:18] <bunniears> gnomefreak, no, i dont think so
[04:18] <ompaul> sumac, you were asked to move to the other channel I will kick youif you persist
[04:18] <LjL> sumac: join #ubuntu-offtopic for talking about that sort of things, please. really, or you'll be kicked out of here :-(
[04:18] <rysiek|pl> Frogzoo, lian: consider these: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_NTFS
[04:18] <cppnewbie> no ljl kubuntu-desktop isnt it
[04:18] <cppnewbie> *in
[04:18] <rysiek|pl> Frogzoo, lian: works fine for me
[04:18] <gnomefreak> bunniears: do you see apps ata ll in the xfce menu?
[04:18] <gnomefreak> at all*
[04:18] <cppnewbie> lol
[04:18] <lian> ok, i will. thanks
[04:19] <rysiek|pl> no prob
[04:19] <bunniears> gnomefreak, when i click on the menu i get: Editors, Graphics, Internet, Multimedia, Office, Settings, System, Utilities and Applications.
[04:20] <gnomefreak> ok under utilities do you see user accounts admin
[04:20] <bunniears> no :(
[04:20] <gnomefreak> it has to be somewher ein your menu im not on same version they changed so much :(
[04:20] <LjL> cppnewbie: the Kubuntu Breezy release page says they do have an Intel 64-bit build
[04:20] <bunniears> gnomefreak, is it possible that its not installed?
[04:21] <cppnewbie> well LjL its not on synaptic however
[04:21] <gnomefreak> and mines broken!!!!!!!!!
[04:21] <bunniears> gnomefreak, because i installed as server
[04:21] <johndarkhorse> cppnewbie: use the amd64 arch
[04:21] <rsocha> !w32codecs
[04:21] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:21] <cppnewbie> which is? :S
[04:21] <gnomefreak> bunniears: xubuntu-desktop should have given you it
[04:21] <cppnewbie> johndarkhorse what is the amd64 arch? :P
[04:21] <bunniears> gnomefreak, i did: sudo apt-get install xbuntu-desktop gdm
[04:21] <johndarkhorse> cppnewbie: the one you download for 64-bit machines
[04:22] <cppnewbie> heh
[04:22] <gnomefreak> bunniears: that is fine
[04:22] <cppnewbie> problem is
[04:22] <cppnewbie> where do i download it from
[04:22] <cppnewbie> :D
[04:22] <gnomefreak> bunniears: do you have a graphical package tool?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> like synaptic?
[04:23] <bunniears> gnomefreak, gQview?
[04:23] <smile> hi
[04:23] <ritalin> DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0
[04:23] <gnomefreak> nice set up
[04:23] <LjL> cppnewbie: i do see kde amd64 packages in the repositories...
[04:23] <cppnewbie> strange
[04:23] <cppnewbie> y cant i c them? :S
[04:24] <LjL> cppnewbie: i don't know really. but see here for example http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/
[04:24] <rysiek|pl> cppnewbie: try doing: apt-get update
[04:24] <LjL> yeah
[04:24] <LjL> if you just installed from CD, that will be it
[04:25] <cppnewbie> well i just did
[04:25] <HymnToLife> for KDE please use that repo instead : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[04:25] <cppnewbie> apt-get itself wont work
[04:25] <cppnewbie> gives me an error about a lock
[04:25] <cppnewbie> sudo apt-get worx however
[04:25] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> close Synaptic
[04:25] <cppnewbie> i have
[04:25] <rysiek|pl> right, ma bad, sorry :)
[04:25] <HymnToLife> before running apt-get
[04:25] <LjL> cppnewbie: close synaptic, and use sudo
[04:25] <HymnToLife> you can run only one of them t  time
[04:25] <cppnewbie> i have closed synaptic
[04:26] <HymnToLife> well
[04:26] <cppnewbie> and if i dont use sudo
[04:26] <cppnewbie> thats what i get
[04:26] <rysiek|pl> cppnewbie: maybe close synaptic? :] 
[04:26] <HymnToLife> yoou still have an apt-get or synaptic proces running
[04:26] <cppnewbie> i have closed synaptiiiic!
[04:26] <HymnToLife> or dpkg
[04:26] <cppnewbie> well actuall
[04:26] <cppnewbie> y
[04:26] <cppnewbie> the only thing thats open right now
[04:26] <HymnToLife> have a look in the processes table ;)
[04:26] <cppnewbie> is a terminal that doesnt do anything, xchat and firefox
[04:26] <rysiek|pl> well, then maybe you should close synaptic?..
[04:26] <HappyFool> perhaps a stale lockfile?
[04:26] <rysiek|pl> ok, no more ;)
[04:26] <cppnewbie> cough cough cough cough
[04:26] <cppnewbie> :D
[04:26] <cppnewbie> where do i c the processes table
[04:27] <LjL> cppnewbie: ps aux
[04:27] <cppnewbie> i have closed synaptic yall. whats gotten into you
[04:27] <cppnewbie> :D
[04:27] <cppnewbie> and what am i looking for right now? :S
[04:27] <gnomefreak> bunniears: under accessories do you see xfce appfinder?
[04:27] <cppnewbie> a dpkg, synaptic or something else app running? :S
[04:27] <HymnToLife> a process named synaptic
[04:27] <LjL> cppnewbie: nothing sorry. well have you tried closing synaptic? you're looking for anything with "apt" in it, or synaptic
[04:27] <HymnToLife> or apt-get or aptitude or dpkg
[04:28] <HymnToLife> and killl it
[04:28] <LjL> cppnewbie: try even     ps aux | grep -i "apt\|syn"
[04:28] <cppnewbie> I HAVE CLOSED SYNAPTIC!!!!! :D and no apt-get or dpkg aint active
[04:28] <cppnewbie> wait lemme c
[04:28] <bunniears> gnomefreak, YES!!
[04:28] <LjL> (erm well actually the name "synaptic" *contains* apt... uh=)
[04:28] <gnomefreak> bunniears: :) search in there for it
[04:28] <LjL> cppnewbie: save keystrokes and do    ps aux | grep -i apt    instead ;)
[04:29] <cppnewbie> no it isnt running.
[04:29] <cppnewbie> :D
[04:29] <cppnewbie> strange isnt it
[04:29] <bunniears> gnomefreak, its not there :p
[04:29] <bunniears> gnomefreak,  *sob*
[04:29] <gnomefreak> i wish i could giv eyou the name of it but my xfce looks great but broken
[04:29] <cppnewbie> heres what it says, the message
[04:29] <HappyFool> or just 'pgrep apt'
[04:29] <LjL> cppnewbie: sooooo... you've used sudo, right? :)
[04:29] <cppnewbie> impossible to open lock file var/lib/apt/lists/lock open (13 Access denied)
[04:29] <bunniears> gnomefreak, is it possible to install it /
[04:29] <cppnewbie> well when i did run sudo it didnt find some repos
[04:30] <cppnewbie> some error or something
[04:30] <cppnewbie> says that some are invalid
[04:30] <gnomefreak> as soon as i find the name i will let you know :)
[04:30] <cppnewbie> however i did run sudo apt-get update
[04:30] <LjL> cppnewbie: well, i can assure you that you *must* use sudo anyway with apt-get update
[04:30] <cppnewbie> :D
[04:30] <bunniears> gnomefreak,  :)
[04:30] <LjL> cppnewbie: so don't even try it without sudo, it will enver work
[04:30] <bunniears> gnomefreak, thanks for all your help
[04:30] <LjL> cppnewbie: but, perhaps your sources.list is wrong if it complains something's invalid
[04:30] <ompaul> cppnewbie, can you stop with the continous stream of thought please - it is spamming the channel
[04:30] <LjL> cppnewbie: please your error (with sudo) and/or your sources.list please? (on the pastebin)
[04:31] <ompaul> cppnewbie, put your thoughts together first
[04:31] <cribbon> i have a really bothering problem, when i download something ( tar.gz ) archive manager opens. But i just want to save it, what is the problem ? ( I have tried both epiphany and firefox )
[04:31] <johnmournahan> can i install RPM packages on ubuntu?
[04:31] <cppnewbie> i added universe and multiverse repos
[04:31] <LjL> johnmournahan: you can. you shouldn't.
[04:31] <cppnewbie> and it simply showed an error after that
[04:31] <rysiek|pl> gotta goi, guys
[04:31] <ompaul> !tell johnmournahan about distrologic
[04:31] <HymnToLife> cribbon> tried right-click > Save target as in FF ?
[04:31] <LjL> cppnewbie: please do paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin. i feel something's wrong there
[04:31] <rysiek|pl> tell cppnewbie to close synaptic and use sudo :)
[04:31] <Madkiss> uhm, what did zoloft du?
[04:31] <ompaul> johnmournahan, have a look at the message fromthe bot
[04:31] <Madkiss> s/du/do
[04:31] <LjL> msg ubotu distrologic
[04:31] <rysiek|pl> cu all
[04:31] <HymnToLife> it should prompt you for saveor open though...
[04:31] <cppnewbie> cough cough rysiek|pl i have closed synaptic
[04:31] <cppnewbie> :p
[04:32] <Blissex> johnmournahan: however you can convert RPMs to '.deb's, and often that works, and if it works it is fairly safe.
[04:32] <savon> how to fix fullscreen in mplayer?
[04:32] <cribbon> HymnToLife: aye, but it is on gnome-look.org ( getting themes ), right clicking enables me ta save index.php ( which i have no interest in ). Besides epiphany acts the same so it must be something elsewhere.
[04:32] <cppnewbie> wtf
[04:32] <cppnewbie> sources.list seems empty
[04:32] <HymnToLife> cribbon> and you don't have a window to choose Open or Save when clicking on the link ?
[04:33] <ompaul> cppnewbie, can you read this?
[04:33] <curious> can anyone tell me an Mp3 player and an .mpg player for ubuntu please?
[04:33] <cppnewbie> it shows itself like its empty. like nothing is in it :S
[04:33] <cribbon> HymnToLife: nope
[04:33] <johnmournahan> All Im trying to do is install RealPlayer
[04:33] <cribbon> HymnToLife: even though i have configured "ask me where to save each file" in firefox
[04:33] <HymnToLife> hmmmthe FlashGot extension for FF might help you then
[04:33] <cppnewbie> yea ompaul, ur gonna tell me about enter again? :D getting to excited it seems
[04:33] <savon> mplayer
[04:33] <jonolsonroll2000> curious, You already have many players with support for that.  You just have to install mpg and mp3 support.
[04:33] <savon> how to fix fullscreen in mplayer?
[04:33] <cppnewbie> i mean im getting to excited and i cant control meself, you get the point :D
[04:34] <ompaul> cppnewbie, no I just want to know that your going to quit spamming the channel, chill
[04:34] <curious> may I know how I get around to that: I am very new to this
[04:34] <HymnToLife> savon> still didn't got it ?just search the forum, I'm pretty sure I asked that very same question some months ago
[04:34] <curious> please.
[04:34] <lowroad> Every time I close my laptop lid, ubuntu goes into lock screen, does anyone know how to turn this off?
[04:34] <cppnewbie> heh, im trying ompaul :D
[04:34] <jonolsonroll2000> !mp3
[04:34] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:34] <jonolsonroll2000> Curious, ^^
[04:34] <Kr4t05> How do I upgrade X.Org t. 6.8+?
[04:34] <jonolsonroll2000> !mpg
[04:34] <Kr4t05> to*
[04:34] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jonolsonroll2000
[04:34] <jonolsonroll2000> Hmmm.
[04:35] <HappyFool> that wiki page will also tell you about video formats
[04:35] <LjL> cppnewbie: ok, "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list". if that shows an empty file, you're in trouble ;) (no, not really)
[04:35] <jonolsonroll2000> Well mpg is there in the same link
[04:35] <jonolsonroll2000> yeah
[04:35] <savon> thank you
[04:35] <johnmournahan> i know i have lots of players, but what works with firefox? for playing in browser
[04:35] <gnomefreak> bunniears: check by running apt-cache policy xfce4-utils  let me know if it says installed
[04:35] <ubuntu> need HELP.. what FTP can i use? (such as coreftp cuteftp.. but for ubuntu)
[04:35] <HymnToLife> ubuntu > gftp
[04:35] <ubuntu> need HELP.. what FTP can i use? (such as coreftp cuteftp.. but for ubuntu)
[04:35] <ubuntu> thanks
[04:35] <bunniears> gnomefreak, ok
[04:35] <curious> Ok, ty
[04:35] <cppnewbie> nah this time it doesnt appear empty, however i dunno how to copy paste it from the console itself onto the pastebin
[04:36] <LjL> ubuntu: you can even use Nautilus (your file manager) as an FTP client. just type "ftp://whatever" in the address line
[04:36] <bunniears> gnomefreak, says installed
[04:36] <curious>  may come back for advice in installing any, if needed
[04:36] <cppnewbie> strange, everything has a # in front of it. almost everything that is
[04:36] <LjL> cppnewbie: it's not too easy (actually, it is, but it's hard when you have to paste multiple screens...)
[04:36] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[04:36] <johnmournahan> i know i have lots of players, but what works with firefox? for playing in browser
[04:36] <LjL> cppnewbie: anyway "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" doesn't work?
[04:37] <HymnToLife> johnmournahan> VLC, Mplayer, Totem...
[04:37] <cppnewbie> well i dunno i couldnt c anything on it with that before
[04:37] <ompaul> johnmournahan, have a look at easyubuntu in #easyubuntu
[04:37] <Frogzoo> cppnewbie: middle mouse click to paste ;)
[04:37] <LjL> cppnewbie: sure you haven't mistyped something? it seems very strange
[04:37] <johnmournahan> thanks ompaul
[04:37] <LjL> Frogzoo: it's a bit of a nuisance when you have to paste something longer than a screen from a terminal, though :)
[04:37] <johnmournahan> I still preety green in ubuntu
[04:38] <ubuntu> Ljl: WHERE IS Nautilus (am new using ubuntu)
[04:38] <HymnToLife> ompaul> don't let Seveas hear you say that lol
[04:38] <jonolsonroll2000> I think there needs to be a giant icon going "CONFUSED? CLICK HERE"  Up pops a link of most commonly done things in ubuntu ;)
[04:38] <cppnewbie> whats the link to the pastebin? :S
[04:38] <HymnToLife> jonolsonroll2000> there is
[04:38] <Frogzoo> LjL: try working with cisco's & telnet sometime... :D
[04:38] <ompaul> HymnToLife, there is no safe but at least it is not as abusive as the other :-/
[04:38] <globe> can somebody help me get my GUI working....(EE)no video bios
[04:38] <gnomefreak> bunniears: did you look in the menu editor to see if you can add it
[04:38] <HymnToLife> http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org
[04:38] <LjL> ubuntu: nautilus is the standard file manager... the thing that pops up with icons when you click on a drive, or something. don't use Gnome myself, so i don't really remember the layout
[04:38] <bunniears> gnomefreak, no :S ?
[04:38] <LjL> Frogzoo: hehe - no thanks ;)
[04:38] <jonolsonroll2000> HymnToLife, I didn't see it when I first started out? :(
[04:38] <savon> how to run nero whit wine?
[04:38] <LjL> cppnewbie: paste.ubuntu-nl.com
[04:38] <gnomefreak> i ran through the packages and only saw a few it could be in
[04:39] <ubuntu> LjL thankz...
[04:39] <LjL> cppnewbie: or .org, or something
[04:39] <gnomefreak> bunniears: try that see if its just not showing but installed
[04:39] <LjL> why is the pastebin not in the topic anymore!
[04:39] <LjL> !tell cppnewbie about pastebin
[04:39] <KenzoIX> hi everyonw
[04:39] <HymnToLife> savon> run wine /path/to/nero/install/file.exe
[04:39] <ompaul> LjL, it is in .org
[04:39] <KenzoIX> hi everyone
[04:39] <HymnToLife> and then install it just the same as in windows
[04:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hi KenzoIX
[04:39] <maxkelley> hey, hooo.. I have a faxmodem that shows up in lspci and everything, and when I do lspci -v it shows it at Irq 255 (?). Where would this be in /dev, or how would I find it? I don't have a gui installed
[04:39] <KenzoIX> I'm new to ubuntu and new to linux too
[04:39] <savon> but i need active x
[04:40] <KenzoIX> i've just got ubunto cd yesterday
[04:40] <HymnToLife> hmm
[04:40] <deus> what does ubuntu provide for tinkering with xorg.conf? im talking about an automatic .conf setup
[04:40] <ompaul> savon, no one needs a virus
[04:40] <KenzoIX> but i have prob when i run live CD
[04:40] <HymnToLife> go to #winehq savon
[04:40] <HymnToLife> you might get better help
[04:40] <LjL> deus: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". not sure that's what you mean by automated
[04:40] <HymnToLife> but why not use k3b ?
[04:40] <savon> nero install says it!
[04:40] <KenzoIX> I'm running it in Asus P4RD1-MX board
[04:40] <maxkelley> anyone?
[04:40] <Frogzoo> maxkelley: you'll have to find the driver readme for the device name
[04:40] <KenzoIX> but when live CD boot
[04:40] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[04:40] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:40] <ompaul> savon, you don't need nero on this
[04:41] <maxkelley> Frogzoo: w....here? :P
[04:41] <KenzoIX> it hang when startin hotplug subsystem
[04:41] <Kyral> Heck Nautilius' built in burner is better than NeroLinux :P
[04:41] <cribbon> i have a really bothering problem, when i download something ( tar.gz ) archive manager opens. But i just want to save it, any ideas ? ( I have tried both epiphany and firefox )
[04:41] <KenzoIX> after a while i found that if i disable the sound card, it work
[04:41] <Frogzoo> maxkelley: if you look in /var/log/messages, does the kernel recognise the card?
[04:41] <globe> can somebody help me get my GUI working....(EE)no video bios
[04:41] <ubuntu> c tout en anglais pfffffff
[04:41] <HymnToLife> Kyral> goddamn.. NeroLinux must be crappier than hell then :p
[04:41] <KenzoIX> any sugesstion? :(
[04:41] <LjL> cribbon: right click, "save link as", or something similar, i guess
[04:41] <ompaul> !fr
[04:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:42] <maxkelley> Frogzoo: let me check.. it's odd. the last line says "PPP Version ***" but nothing else.
[04:42] <Kyral> Note: Nautilus' built-in burner is actually very good for "point and click" burning of ISOs. It does the "Right Thing" :D
[04:42] <LjL> !tell ubuntu about fr
[04:42] <HymnToLife> !fr
[04:42] <Frogzoo> !tell ubuntu about fr
[04:42] <ompaul> HymnToLife, so slow Frogzoo way too slow
[04:42] <jonolsonroll2000> KenzoIX, Isn't there a no ascpi boot option?  Something like that it's slipped me.
[04:42] <cppnewbie> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9753
[04:42] <Kyral> Right-click on the Image File, select "Burn To Disc" and BAM! :D
[04:42] <HymnToLife> lol
[04:42] <Frogzoo> ompaul: I'm flossing :p
[04:42] <HymnToLife> that's cuz of my dialup :D
[04:42] <gnomefreak> can someone look at this list for me and give me an idea where the user admin tool (to add remove uses) would be in? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9755
[04:42] <KenzoIX> yes....i've tried it
[04:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> KenzoIX: Sounds like a known problem - hotplug apparently has issues if it finds two of the same multimedia device. (ie, integrated sound and an add-on card, or integrated graphics/add-on card.)
[04:42] <johnmournahan> how do get root privlages?
[04:42] <cribbon> LjL: nah, it isnt that easy. It must be builtin somehow, that when it discoverers a tar.gz file it automatically executes archive manager. But i dont want that...
[04:42] <KenzoIX> but it's still hand
[04:42] <mustard5> cribbon, you looked in the firefox preferences for downloads?
[04:42] <Kyral> !tell johnmournahan about sudo
[04:42] <ompaul> johnmournahan, you don't need them
[04:42] <concept10> Anyone here using Dapper notice there is some bittorrent tracker proccess running when you go to shutdown or reboot?
[04:43] <KenzoIX> now i'm running ubuntu with no sound :(
[04:43] <Kyral> concept10: its a "ghost
[04:43] <cribbon> mustard5: yep, i have "ask me where to save each file"
[04:43] <gnomefreak> concept10: please join #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[04:43] <HymnToLife> cribbon> try the FlashGot extension for FF
[04:43] <concept10> Kyral, huh?
[04:43] <bunniears> gnomefreak, its not there :/
[04:43] <KenzoIX> oh....yes
[04:43] <Seewai> concept10: it doesn't actually get started unless you configure it to be
[04:43] <Kyral> concept10: like its echoing, but the script does nada (check your processes)
[04:43] <johnmournahan> then how do i get Super user privlages ompaul
[04:43] <KenzoIX> my board also has integerated VGA
[04:43] <Frogzoo> concept10: wtf?
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ok bunniears i got a list on pastebin waiting for someone to look at
[04:43] <ompaul> Folks  please move    Dapper            related conversation to #ubuntu+1
[04:43] <Kyral> johnmournahan: read the PM Ubotu sent you
[04:43] <cribbon> HymnToLife: hrm.. aye, which download manager should i have with it ?
[04:43] <ompaul> johnmournahan, there is a message from the bot about it
[04:43] <concept10> Kyral, I did check (ps aux | grep torrent) its not running
[04:43] <HymnToLife> I personnally use aria
[04:44] <cribbon> HymnToLife: ok
[04:44] <Kyral> concept10: bingo :P
[04:44] <HymnToLife> but gwget is nice too though a bit less complete
[04:44] <concept10> no one never responds in #+1
[04:44] <KenzoIX> so....is there anyway I can use both VGA and sound card
[04:44] <bunniears> gnomefreak,  ok
[04:44] <bunniears> gnomefreak,  thanks
[04:44] <KenzoIX> u c...i can't disable the VGA
[04:44] <HymnToLife> (that's an understatement, gwget is very basic - works very well though)
[04:44] <mustard5> cribbon, what about in the 'Download Actions' options for firefox?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> concept10: that because they are in here if everone with dapper related issues would use the channel for dapper people would talk
[04:45] <cppnewbie> so whats the prob with my sources? :S
[04:45] <LjL> cppnewbie: hmm... your sources.list isn't "perfect" i think, but it should basically work for all i can see... can anybody else have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9753 and spot any mistake? (i can see breezy-updates is commented out, and it shouldn't, and universe comes before main, which it probably shouldn't)
[04:45] <gnomefreak> bunniears: try running sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop please
[04:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> KenzoIX: It shouldn't be a vga/snd issue, just an integrated sound/ add-on sound card issue.  (If I'm understanding your explanation correctly, which isn't guaranteed... :)
[04:45] <cribbon> mustard5: i think it really is related to something else, becouse epiphany acts the same.
[04:45] <maxkelley> Frogzoo: nope, don't see anything.
[04:45] <DanEagles> Hey there
[04:45] <KenzoIX> is there anyway i can disable the hotplug subsystem?
[04:45] <ryanakca> ok... if I were to mail ryan@24.226.20.171, and the box with the server was behind a linksys router, what port would I open on the router for the mail to get threw from my gmail account to my mailbox on localhost/here
[04:45] <bunniears> gnomefreak, will do
[04:45] <KenzoIX> sorry...my English is poor
[04:46] <gnomefreak> i see a bunch of things
[04:46] <LjL> cppnewbie: also, perhaps try changing "gr" into some other country code? maybe the gr mirror is broken at the moment
[04:46] <curious> thanks
[04:46] <sedric> how often is are the packages updated in ubuntu (for apt-get) for example current version of blender is 2.4.1 where as with apt-get i only get 2.3.7
[04:46] <ompaul> KenzoIX, why would you want to do that?
[04:46] <DanEagles> I require support as well. :">
[04:46] <cppnewbie> maybe but will it be the same as the rest? maybe it will have a slight difference
[04:46] <rsocha> Right. Apart from setting up a chroot, is there any way to run mplayer with win32codecs an amd64?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> the sources.list is it gonna be used with a net connection?>
[04:46] <Frogzoo> maxkelley: then you'll need to google your card's make/model & try to find a linux driver - which you may need compile
[04:46] <mustard5> cribbon, k
[04:46] <KenzoIX> 'cause i want to use my sound card
[04:46] <ompaul> !ask
[04:46] <gnomefreak> LjL: ?
[04:46] <globe> can somebody help me get my xserver working on a laptop....(EE)no video bios
[04:46] <LjL> gnomefreak: what?
[04:46] <jonolsonroll2000> DanEagles, Ask away.  Generally it'll be answered.  If you don't get a responce it either means your question wasn't long enough or we just don't know ;)
[04:46] <LjL> gnomefreak: oh
[04:46] <gnomefreak> is ti for a net connection?
[04:46] <KenzoIX> i can only boot into ubuntu if i disable the sound card
[04:47] <ompaul> !tell DanEagles about ask
[04:47] <maxkelley> Frogzoo: k, thanks
[04:47] <Alashua> anyone know how i can get limewire installed
[04:47] <bunniears> gnomefreak, done.
[04:47] <LjL> gnomefreak: yeah i guess so. problem seems to be that his apt-get update fails
[04:47] <Alashua> and working correctly
[04:47] <ompaul> jonolsonroll2000, may I msg you?
[04:47] <jonolsonroll2000> ompaul, Go ahead.
[04:47] <gnomefreak> ok who is it so i can type it so he reads it?
[04:47] <Frogzoo> !frostwire
[04:47] <ubotu> somebody said frostwire was a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network, which can be found at http://www.frostwire.com/
[04:47] <HymnToLife> what error message do you get cppnewbie ?
[04:47] <LjL> gnomefreak: cppnewbie
[04:47] <deus> LjL: what i really want todo is to configure my tv-out
[04:48] <deus> can it handle  that?
[04:48] <cppnewbie> HymnToLife something like that the repositories arent active or so
[04:48] <HymnToLife> hmm
[04:48] <jonolsonroll2000> ompaul, On here?  Or a different messaging function?
[04:48] <savon> how to install .deb?
[04:48] <Fitzz> what format i need to put the text if i want to join to multiple chanels when i have conected to server? (x-chat)
[04:48] <Frogzoo> !deb
[04:48] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[04:48] <ompaul> jonolsonroll2000, long message :)
[04:48] <HymnToLife> the server doesn't seem down though
[04:48] <ubuntu> what do i need to type in the terminal to install gftp.deb (its in my home folder)
[04:48] <LjL> deus: uh, dunno really. i *have* got a card with tv-out, but i just bought it 3 days ago =) haven't really tried it yet
[04:48] <papa_lic> umm...guys
[04:48] <ubuntu> what do i need to type in the terminal to install gftp.deb (its in my home folder)
[04:48] <jonolsonroll2000> ompaul, K ;)
[04:48] <papa_lic> anyione have partitionmagic for me?
[04:48] <LSZH> Hello... why isn't it possible to install Ubuntu on a system with a S-ATA harddrive and DVI graphics?
[04:48] <HymnToLife> try running sudo apt-get update with an empty sources.list
[04:48] <HymnToLife> then copy it back
[04:48] <cppnewbie> hmm
[04:48] <cppnewbie> lemme c
[04:48] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: line 001 put a # infront of the word deb now take the # away from the rest of the lines i say 005 009 010 020 029 030 035 036
[04:48] <bunniears> gnomefreak, do you think this has something to do with it: launch Gnome services at startup, launch KDE services at startup ? there not ticked
[04:49] <HymnToLife> damn
[04:49] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak is right indeed
[04:49] <gnomefreak> bunniears: nope shouldnt i dont have mine checked
[04:49] <HymnToLife> how could I miss that ?
[04:49] <cppnewbie> tells me that reading the package listings is done and does nothing else HymnToLife
[04:49] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: read the abbove message and run sudo apt-get update after saving it
[04:49] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> copy your sources.list bak
[04:49] <LjL> DanEagles: sempron is K7
[04:50] <HymnToLife> and uncomment the lines gnomefreak told you
[04:50] <jonolsonroll2000> The Intel x86 one DanEagles. ;)
[04:50] <DanEagles> LjL: you've lost me. haha
[04:50] <LjL> DanEagles: you should use intel
[04:50] <DanEagles> jonolsonroll2000: you sure? :)
[04:50] <DanEagles> thanks muchly
[04:50] <gnomefreak> dont forget put a #infront of the deb in line 001
[04:50] <jonolsonroll2000> DanEagles, 100%
[04:50] <sedric> wat is a good program for downloading a website with specified links to localmachine with links to local copy?
[04:50] <LjL> DanEagles: intel x86 - and then you could change your kernel from i386 to k7, to get somewhat better performance
[04:50] <Frogzoo> sedric: wget rox
[04:50] <DanEagles> LjL: any idea how to do that?
[04:50] <globe> can somebody help me get my xserver working on a laptop....
[04:51] <ubuntu> what do i need to type in the terminal to install gftp.deb (its in my home folder)
[04:51] <Frogzoo> globe: which vid card?
[04:51] <LjL> DanEagles: yeah. install ubuntu (intel x86) first, and then "sudo apt-get install linux-k7"
[04:51] <KenzoIX> anyone know how to prevent hotplug subsystem to load on live CD?
[04:51] <globe> Frogzoo: intel 855
[04:51] <cppnewbie> happens again
[04:51] <LjL> DanEagles: (after you've done a first "sudo apt-get update")
[04:51] <HymnToLife> ubuntu > sudo apt-get remove gftp
[04:51] <cppnewbie> however it still is better than before
[04:51] <Frogzoo> !tell globe about xorg
[04:51] <cppnewbie> now it sure updated somethin
[04:51] <cppnewbie> g
[04:52] <HymnToLife> KenzoIX> just hit Ctrl+C when it tries to load it
[04:52] <Frogzoo> globe: try that, or maybe google for other's who've done same
[04:52] <DanEagles> LjL: Ok, thanks much.  I'll be back if I have any probs *hug*
[04:52] <HymnToLife> it will skip it
[04:52] <ompaul> cppnewbie, we really did not need that g - its spamming dude take your time
[04:52] <ubuntu> i want to install it not remove it :S
[04:52] <KenzoIX> Ctrl+C?ok...i will give it a try
[04:52] <HymnToLife> ubuntu > install from repos please
[04:52] <HymnToLife> sudo apt-get install gftp
[04:52] <KenzoIX> thank you, hymntolife
[04:52] <globe> Frogzoo: yep.  I have done that...I cant easily google, as its not very lynx friendly
[04:53] <Frogzoo> !tell globe about refresh
[04:53] <Frogzoo> damn, someone killing my bot msgs :p
[04:53] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: paste any errors you get on pastebin please
[04:53] <globe> :-)
[04:53] <cppnewbie> well gnomefreak some are outputted in greek, i dont think it will make any sense in the end
[04:54] <ompaul> jon_ :-)
[04:54] <gnomefreak> bunniears: im not really sure now it should have been in that utils package i would think
[04:54] <jon_> ;) Poo.
[04:54] <jon_> Might have to go with my last name attached.
[04:54] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> here's my sources.list (working ;)) try it instear of yours
[04:54] <HymnToLife> http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list
[04:54] <globe> how can I manually enable the universe repositories (from command like)
[04:54] <Frogzoo> globe: anyhows, you might need to add lines for VertRefresh & HorizSync
[04:54] <gnomefreak> they dont kid when they say xfce unstable is unstable
[04:54] <HymnToLife> maybe the greek ubuntu mirror has some problems
[04:54] <gnomefreak> !fixres
[04:54] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:54] <jon_> ompaul, hahah ;)  Nah thanks for alerting me to that.
[04:54] <GNeRaL> hi
[04:54] <bunniears> gnomefreak,  :( ok
[04:55] <cppnewbie> hymntolife its 64 bit?
[04:55] <GNeRaL> on my keyboard, ALT + CTRL keys doesnt work
[04:55] <globe> Frogzoo: wouldnt surprize me, I had to about 6 months ago too.  I just dont remember the syntax.
[04:55] <GNeRaL> what should i do
[04:55] <HymnToLife> no matter
[04:55] <HymnToLife> it's the same repos
[04:55] <gnomefreak> who is running xfce on breezy in here?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> gnomefreak: '       HorizSync       30-67
[04:55] <Frogzoo>         VertRefresh     30-60
[04:55] <HymnToLife> it will download the 64 bit packages no worry
[04:55] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I can sup?
[04:55] <GNeRaL> on my keyboard, ALT and CTRL button doesnt work
[04:55] <GNeRaL> what should i do
[04:56] <HymnToLife> don't forget to comment out the KDE and amarok lines if you don't neet themm though
[04:56] <gnomefreak> ompaul: bunniears is looking for the user admin thing to add and remove users with only xubuntu-desktop installed no gnome
[04:56] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i have a list of what i found on xfce and it looks like the xfce4-utils should have it hers doesnt
[04:56] <cppnewbie> hymntolife what r the matroska packages? :S
[04:56] <ompaul> gnomefreak, booting
[04:56] <dylan_> how do i downgrade my programs?  i have an unstable versin of rhythmbox
[04:56] <gnomefreak> ok
[04:56] <HymnToLife> hmm
[04:56] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:57] <globe> Frogzoo: do I put that in the monitor section or the screen section?
[04:57] <HymnToLife> you can comment them out toosome video tools to read MKVs
[04:57] <Frogzoo> globe: monitor section - yes
[04:57] <ubuntu> HElp!!!!!!!!  install from repos please
[04:57] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[04:57] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:57] <ubuntu> HELP how do i install a file?
[04:57] <ubuntu> in my home folder
[04:57] <ubuntu> called gftp.deb
[04:57] <HymnToLife> ubuntu > you don't
[04:58] <HymnToLife> use the repos
[04:58] <globe> Frogzoo: can you possibly post your xorg.conf file on paste? I can read that wtih lynx
[04:58] <HymnToLife> run sudo apt-get install gftp
[04:58] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: synaptic will install the files for you you cant install a file to home you can only install the file or download to home
[04:58] <GNeRaL> pfff
[04:58] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: sudo dpkg -i gftp.deb should install it once downloaded
[04:59] <ubuntu> i ment what i need to type in the terminal :s to get it install
[04:59] <gnomefreak> ^^
[04:59] <pradeep1> ubuntu: navigate to the folder using a terminal and type  dpkg -i gftp.deb
[04:59] <cppnewbie> heh its updating now
[04:59] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> but it won't solve any dependencies there is
[04:59] <globe> where are the locations for the repos stored (I need to edit them manually -- no x)
[04:59] <sedric> can you have gnome and KDE install on your ubuntu machine at the same time? and if so how would you switch between the two?
[04:59] <ompaul> gnomefreak, settings - users and groups just above all the xfce stuff
[04:59] <HymnToLife> then it was a prob wit the gr mirror most likely cppnewbie
[04:59] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: he asked how to install it he didnt take advice from us
[04:59] <gnomefreak> bunniears: ?
[04:59] <mike-w> hi when i close the screen on this laptop, and come back to it, i log in from the lock out prompt, it logs into the box, then goes on a loop of locking out and makes me re-log in 5 times or so
[04:59] <mike-w> it's making me feel old and senile
[04:59] <cppnewbie> HymnToLife i was in a rush to talk, i still got error msgs
[05:00] <bunniears> gnomefreak, yea?
[05:00] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> obviously he's a newbie
[05:00] <gnomefreak> bunniears: did you read what ompaul said
[05:00] <LjL> i have a problem with the ubuntu wiki. i'm probably just stupid, but - when i try to login, it gets me to my User Preferences page, saying that "passwords don't match". wants me to fill in both "Password" and "Repeat password", but... there is no "Repeat password".  also, i gave my name as "LorenzoJLucchini", which smells like it's causing problems with the middle initial
[05:00] <HymnToLife> and dpkg should not be used unless you know what you're doig
[05:00] <HymnToLife> which he obviously doesnt
[05:00] <Frogzoo> globe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9757
[05:00] <bunniears> gnomefreak, yes, but its not there
[05:00] <johndarkhorse> globe: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:00] <gnomefreak> bunniears: it should be in settings than users and groups
[05:00] <ompaul> bunniears, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:00] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> paste then :)
[05:00] <bunniears> ompaul, 5.10
[05:01] <cppnewbie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9758
[05:01] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> comment out the KDE, amarok ant Matroska lines
[05:01] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: ignore them for now
[05:01] <HymnToLife> you probably don't need themor even delete them :p
[05:01] <cppnewbie> but what i actually want as well is KDE :D
[05:01] <HymnToLife> ok
[05:02] <cppnewbie> but i guess
[05:02] <HymnToLife> so run those two commands :
[05:02] <mike-w> POOP
[05:02] <mike-w> oops
[05:02] <HymnToLife> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[05:02] <HymnToLife>  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[05:02] <gnomefreak> cppnewbie: you will need to manully add those keys you can find out how by /msg ubotu Seveas
[05:02] <bunniears> ompaul, gnomefreak, im doing a print screen for you now
[05:02] <pradeep1> does sendmail support pop/smtp mail?
[05:02] <Bubben> Ubuntu rocks .. but the mouse hackinng why
[05:02] <gnomefreak> ty bunniears
[05:02] <HymnToLife> and the Matroska ones you can delete
[05:02] <gnomefreak> pradeep1: i think you need to have a outside app do it
[05:02] <ompaul> bunniears, ahh I figured it out, sorry I also have gnome on that box that is where xfce is getting it from, suggest you run a terminal and >>sudo adduser<<
[05:03] <kikidonk> what is the procedure to get a package request ?
[05:03] <kikidonk> or to get someone build a .deb package for me :)
[05:03] <gnomefreak> kikidonk: what package
[05:03] <pradeep1> gnomefreak ... what do you mean by outside app?
[05:03] <cppnewbie> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[05:03] <cppnewbie>  <-- what is that about ? :S
[05:03] <kikidonk> it's a tiny program called 'superswitcher'
[05:03] <evilsmevil> hi there
[05:03] <HymnToLife> normal
[05:03] <sedric> so is it possible to have gnome and KDE on the same ubuntu install?
[05:03] <HymnToLife> now you can update
[05:03] <cppnewbie> ah ok then
[05:03] <LjL> sedric: yes
[05:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell pradeep1 about sendmail
[05:03] <evilsmevil> yes sedric i have that
[05:03] <jon_> sedric, Yes it is.
[05:04] <evilsmevil> just install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic or use sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:04] <sedric> LjL: ok then how i switch between the two?
[05:04] <LjL> sedric: at the login screen, click on "Session", and choose
[05:04] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm ok sendmail will not grab mail off servers without a mail carrier (cant remember what they are called)
[05:04] <trigx300> hi can anyone help me get my screen resolution to 1280x1024
[05:04] <concept10> !nfs
[05:04] <evilsmevil> when you log in you use something called GDM at the bottom there is an options panel
[05:04] <ubotu> somebody said nfs was see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:04] <HymnToLife> sedric> don't forget to add the KDE 3.5.1 repo before
[05:04] <sedric> LjL: great thanks
[05:04] <Installer36> sedric when you boot you can choose which one in the sessions you want to use
[05:05] <HymnToLife> here's how to do it : http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[05:05] <LjL> trigx300: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answer with the defaults to every question except the ones about resolution.
[05:05] <Xenguy> Hi - PATH question: I seem to be having problems adding ~/bin to a user's PATH.  ~/.bash_profile already has an if statement saying if ~/bin exists, then prepend it to the PATH.  Unfortunately this doesn't seem to actually happen when I invoke a new terminal.  Can anyone tell me where the default PATH is actually being set, or how I can otherwise configure this?
[05:05] <ompaul> bunniears, click on othersettings and see what is there
[05:05] <sedric> Thanks all
[05:05] <gnomefreak> bunniears: i cant open that
[05:05] <evilsmevil> does anyone know I can bind actions to my 4th and 5th mousebuttons?
[05:05] <pradeep1> gnomefreak ok how about if i just want to send mail .. thru gmail will that be possible using sendmail?
[05:05] <HymnToLife> !mouse
[05:05] <ubotu> mouse is probably Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[05:05] <jojosan_Ubuntu> wow
[05:05] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I did :)
[05:05] <jojosan_Ubuntu> xgl rocks
[05:05] <gnomefreak> pradeep1: i dont think it is i think another client has to
[05:06] <jojosan_Ubuntu> but I'm wondering about the controls
[05:06] <LjL> Xenguy: it works for me, and i'm quite sure it's actually .bash_profile doing it...
[05:06] <bunniears> ompaul, it says "components -> KDE Resources"
[05:06] <gnomefreak> ompaul: what are those clients that sendmail and postfix use for pop and smtp?
[05:06] <LjL> Xenguy: perhaps your ~/bin doesn't have the right permissions?
[05:06] <mustard5> jojosan_Ubuntu, can you describe xgl in a few words? :)
[05:06] <globe> johndarkhorse: thanks
[05:06] <LjL> mustard5: buggy. one word :)
[05:06] <jojosan_Ubuntu> mustard5, useless_but_kicks_ass
[05:06] <mustard5> jojosan_Ubuntu, heheh
[05:07] <ompaul> gnomefreak, they both their own smtp pop is a seperate daemon
[05:07] <Xenguy> LjL: this ~/.bash_profile doesn't actually contain any 'export PATH' statement for example - does yours?
[05:07] <Xenguy> LjL: ~/bin is 755
[05:07] <ompaul> bunniears, have you a lot of disk space?
[05:07] <bunniears> ompaul, yeah
[05:07] <gnomefreak> ompaul: ok so he can sedn but not recieve
[05:07] <LjL> Xenguy: hmm no, just PATH=
[05:07] <gnomefreak> lol @ its never good when that question gets asked
[05:08] <ompaul> gnomefreak, well mutt can read from the queue directly
[05:08] <renlore> hi is there a repository where i can get AVRdude?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> pradeep1: you need mutt
[05:08] <gnomefreak> brb going back to gnome
[05:08] <LjL> Xenguy: i'll try removing that line from my .bashrc_profile and seeing if the path is still that
[05:08] <Xenguy> LjL: hrm, so maybe default PATH is coming from /etc/profile or something
[05:09] <pradeep1> gnomefreak; mutt for pop and smtp?
[05:09] <LjL> Xenguy: my path still includes my ~/bin even without that line in .bash_profile
[05:10] <Xenguy> LjL: nod.  It's odd, it works for my user, but not this other user -- it's probably something silly
[05:10] <devon> can I get some help with printing
[05:10] <ompaul> bunniears, okay I would do this: either use the command line >>sudo adduser<< in a terminal or I would >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<< followed by >sudo alternatives-update --all< and change the things you want changed, like ubutu-desktop to xubuntu-desktop that ya go, its all I can think of for ya
[05:11] <Xenguy> LjL: thanks, I'll let you know if I figure it out
[05:11] <bunniears> ompaul, ok. errm :/ thanks lol. I cant really turn the server off for long so :/
[05:11] <LjL> Xenguy: /etc/profile does export PATH, but then it makes no mention of ~/bin
[05:11] <devon> how do I get my printer to work
[05:12] <ompaul> bunniears, okay I would do this: either use the command line >>sudo adduser<< in a terminal that works
[05:12] <seraphim> system -> printers
[05:12] <ompaul> bunniears, it is really easy
[05:12] <Xenguy> LjL: maybe I'll just hack /etc/profile then - good idea :-)
[05:12] <bunniears> ompaul, lawl - me and easy doesnt work :D
[05:12] <pdlnhrd> i am trying to install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 on an amd64 box and it says the package doesn't exist but i installed in on the x86 arch just fine
[05:12] <bunniears> ompaul, gnomefreak thanks for your help :)
[05:13] <ompaul> bunniears, at least try it
[05:13] <gnomefreak> set neat_colorize on
[05:13] <devon> seraphim.I go tthat and installed the closest printer to my model but no joy printing
[05:13] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrr
[05:13] <gnomefreak> much better
[05:13] <seraphim> what printer do you have?
[05:13] <ompaul> gnomefreak, suggested .. sudo adduser
[05:13] <seraphim> there are some that don't work at linux
[05:14] <devon> Lexmark Z715
[05:14] <seraphim> especially lexmark :(
[05:14] <gnomefreak> ompaul: that will add user to sudoers? or reg?
[05:14] <devon> damn
[05:14] <renlore> hi how do i access dapper packages?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> renlore: you really shouldnt
[05:14] <ompaul> gnomefreak, starts there and then sudo vipw for for adding the user to the admin group
[05:14] <Frogzoo_away> renlore: best not to if you're not actually running dapper
[05:14] <Installer36> devon I got my Lexmark to worl
[05:14] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh ty om
[05:15] <devon> Installer36, how
[05:15] <Fitzz> in gnome.. where can i set up dual monitor?
[05:15] <ompaul> !tell renlore about distrologic
[05:15] <ompaul> !tell renlore about dapper
[05:15] <moonman> should i switch to kubuntu?
[05:15] <ompaul> renlore, have a look at the messages sent to you
[05:15] <sedric> doesnt look like i need to add the kubuntu packages to the repo, they seem to be default in breezy, is that correct? to install KDE i just need to get the kdebase?
[05:15] <ompaul> moonman, what colour car have you got, and is it raining?
[05:15] <Frogzoo> Fitzz: you need to tweak /etc/X11/xorg.conf - actual config depends on your specific setup
[05:16] <gnomefreak> Fitzz: i think its just changing the x-server-xorg (think i only have one moniter but i thiough i saw something in there)
[05:16] <renlore> ok
[05:16] <moonman> ompaul, red truck, and no, its sunnyout
[05:16] <Fitzz> ah, ok, ill go look about those
[05:16] <gnomefreak> moonman: no stick with gnome
[05:16] <gnomefreak> kde doesnt go well witha  red truck :(
[05:16] <ompaul> moonman, so therefore you choose, it is all eyecandy you can run kubuntu apps in ubuntu and the other way around
[05:16] <Installer36> Try this site  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83456&highlight=lexmark+printer
[05:16] <Frogzoo> Fitzz: if you can run aticontrol, it's very straight forward
[05:17] <evilsmevil> hi im sorry if this is off topic but what is an entity? (when talking about databases)
[05:17] <Fitzz> ture Frogzoo , but i can't find the aticontrol...
[05:17] <Fitzz> you can install it?
[05:17] <moonman> ompaul, join #moonuni
[05:17] <moonman> +t
[05:17] <devon> Installer36, Ok thx
[05:17] <ompaul> moonman, I am gone working on stuff - no time
[05:17] <Installer36> Your Welcome
[05:17] <moonman> right.
[05:17] <gnomefreak> bunniears: did adduser work?
[05:18] <moonman> is the switch hard to make, or should i reinstall to do it
[05:18] <Frogzoo> Fitzz: if you're running fglrx, get the latest from the seveas repo & it installs aticontrol into gnome's menu
[05:18] <Xenguy> LjL: any idea if it is a bad idea to put '~/bin' (i.e. use a tilde) in the /etc/profile PATH line ?
[05:18] <moonman> gnome -> kde that is
[05:18] <moonman> mabie the wiki can shed some light
[05:18] <Fitzz> ok, thanks Frogzoo
[05:18] <bunniears> gnomefreak, yes thanks :) im looking for some type of webadministration that lets you add users and such if there is one
[05:18] <gnomefreak> moonman: no its easy run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop than when its done log out and on the log in screen click sessions and choose kde
[05:18] <LjL> Xenguy: from what i can understand of /etc/profile, it seems to run as the actual user who runs the shell. so, if that's correct, using the tilde should be fine
[05:18] <moonman> gnomefreak, thanks
[05:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:19] <nickrud> Xenguy: .bash_profile has a snippet for adding private bins ..
[05:19] <Xenguy> LjL: nod. Tx :-)
[05:20] <renlore> hrmm actually i wanna get avrdude http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/electronics/avrdude , but how do i get it from synaptic manager?
[05:20] <massimo_> Hello everyone
[05:20] <Xano> hi
[05:20] <Xenguy> nickrud: yeah, and it is working sometimes but not always for a particular user, and I don't understand why (it may be something dumb; I just want to open a terminal in X and have ~/bin in the PATH)
[05:20] <moonman> gnomefreak, then in order to un-install gnome...?, is there a synaptic with kde?
[05:20] <gnomefreak> renlore: dont in breezy you are looking for major issues
[05:20] <moonman> gnomefreak, not that im going to uninstall it yet
[05:20] <gnomefreak> moonman: yes
[05:20] <HymnToLife> moonman> yes but it stinks
[05:21] <gnomefreak> adept i think is a pm for kde
[05:21] <HymnToLife> better keep gnome, there are lots of useful apps in it
[05:21] <Frogzoo> Fitzz: actually, you want the pkg, 'fglrx-control'
[05:21] <moonman> HymnToLife, im under peer-pressure to switch
[05:21] <Fitzz> pkg?
[05:21] <massimo_> I have a question aout internet radio
[05:21] <moonman> i figure ill try it out
[05:21] <HymnToLife> moonman> I'm mostly a KDE user
[05:21] <HymnToLife> but some apps in it just are lame
[05:21] <gnomefreak> kde reminds me too much of windows
[05:22] <moonman> HymnToLife, ive got my computer dual booted with xp-pro
[05:22] <HymnToLife> so I always have gnome installed too
[05:22] <k-mandla> greetings, sports fans
[05:22] <Kr4t05> gnomefreak: Not going there.
[05:22] <gnomefreak> lol Kr4t05
[05:22] <moonman> I WAS A WINDOWS USER!
[05:22] <HymnToLife> moonman> and ?
[05:22] <evilsmevil> i still use windows
[05:22] <Kr4t05> gnomefreak: I kinda like the sleekness of KDE
[05:22] <gnomefreak> moonman: most of us were at one time or another
[05:22] <evilsmevil> its not THAT bad
[05:22] <HymnToLife> what's the problem in having both gnome and KDE installed ?
[05:22] <Frogzoo> Fitzz: pkg = package
[05:22] <moonman> im going to get a mac later this summer
[05:23] <gnomefreak> Kr4t05: if configurted right yea but base kde looks :(
[05:23] <Aidamina> hi
[05:23] <Kr4t05> HymnToLife: If you're only using one, the other wastes space.
[05:23] <jonas3> I prefer WindowMaker but use xfce on one laptop
[05:23] <Aidamina> How do i create a new user from shell ?
[05:23] <massimo_> is there a web site with internet radio station listed just to test the rhytmbox application ?
[05:23] <Fitzz> ah..  sorry Frogzoo, just got firist linux three days ago
[05:23] <gnomefreak> Aidamina: sudo adduser
[05:23] <Kr4t05> gnomefreak: Exactly. That's why I spent 30 mins last night in kcontrol.
[05:23] <Aidamina> kk
[05:23] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:23] <gnomefreak> gm Seveas
[05:24] <Kr4t05> Oh
[05:24] <Kr4t05> BTW
[05:24] <HymnToLife> Kr4t05> but if you completely remove gnome, you'll have to bear with crappy KDE things like Konversation or Adept
[05:24] <nickrud> Xenguy: I had to think about it for a bit; I added that snippet to ~/.gnomerc for gnome
[05:24] <Frogzoo> Fitzz: ah, i c, well enjoy :)
[05:24] <Kr4t05> How would I remove GDM certain GNOME packages.
[05:24] <HymnToLife> and if you remove KDE you'll have to bear with Gnomebaker and Nautilus
[05:24] <Kr4t05> and+
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Kr4t05: what packages?
[05:24] <nickrud> Xenguy: the login shell vs interactive shell sourcing is hard to remember 
[05:25] <Kr4t05> gnomefreak: Just the stuff I'm no longer using.
[05:25] <gnomefreak> i like nautilus
[05:25] <Kr4t05> gnomefreak: ...
[05:25] <AngryElf> how do you get ~/.bashrc to reload?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> Kr4t05: try sudo apt-get remove?
[05:25] <cribbon> how do i disable auto-open by archive manager ?
[05:25] <HymnToLife> Kr4t05> the best thing would be to remove it completely
[05:25] <HymnToLife> then reinstall the things you are using
[05:25] <HymnToLife> there musn't be many of them
[05:25] <gnomefreak> Kr4t05: if some of the depends look like its gonna reder you dead dont do it
[05:25] <Kr4t05> HymnToLife: sudo apt-get remove gnome?
[05:26] <cribbon> Kr4t05: if you want to remove gnome you ought to use "sudo apt-get remove gnome*"
[05:26] <Kr4t05> gnomefreak: I'm kewl with it.
[05:26] <HymnToLife> hmmmm dunnoI've never done this
[05:26] <Kr4t05> cribbon: Aight
[05:26] <HymnToLife> doesn't remoe ubuntu-desktop do the tric ?
[05:26] <michael> wo ist der deusche sever
[05:26] <Frogzoo> Fitzz: 1stly, you want to get comfortable with synaptic, and then add the seveas repo to update the fglrx package
[05:26] <HymnToLife> !de
[05:26] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:26] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: no
[05:26] <HymnToLife> hmm
[05:26] <michael> danke
[05:27] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: ubuntu-desktop will not get rid of gnome
[05:27] <HymnToLife> than try removing Nautilus or Evolution
[05:27] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[05:27] <HymnToLife> or some core gnome things
[05:27] <cribbon> how do i disable auto-open by archive manager ?
[05:27] <gnomefreak> upgrading he meant
[05:27] <Kr4t05> cribbon: Then I'll apt-get gedit again. :P
[05:27] <HymnToLife> I remember once I tried to remove Evolution because I thought it was a waste of sace since I used Thunderbird
[05:27] <Kr4t05> Wait.
[05:27] <Kr4t05> No
[05:27] <gnomefreak> cribbon: on dapper?
[05:27] <HymnToLife> and it messed up my gnome completely :p
[05:28] <Kr4t05> Real men use nano. :P
[05:28] <Fitzz> yeah, i am working with those Frogzoo... but i am used to make everything on my own with google first.. So ssh.. let me work  :p
[05:28] <cribbon> gnomefreak: yes ( but noone answers in ubuntu+1 )
[05:28] <gnomefreak> cribbon: check out bug 33038
[05:28] <gnomefreak> cribbon: you have to go into firefox about thing and change one of the values
[05:28] <cribbon> gnomefreak: i'll come back =) But already now, thank you! I have been asking and looking around for about 1 hour now :D
[05:29] <cribbon> gnomefreak: roger that.
[05:29] <gnomefreak> only an hr?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> i spend 3 days on it :(
[05:29] <Kr4t05> I started with an Ubuntu Hoary disk
[05:29] <cribbon> gnomefreak: well, i've been having a war against suse, dapper and hoary this weekend, so i kind of just want things to work :D
[05:29] <Kr4t05> And used apt to upgrade/replace. o.o
[05:29] <Kr4t05> That's awesome.
[05:29] <gnomefreak> cribbon: you want things to work dapper is not for you sir
[05:30] <gnomefreak> either is suse
[05:30] <Kr4t05> cribbon: You need some of my good luck.
[05:30] <cribbon> gnomefreak: neh, but i ment "for once, fucking work" :D
[05:30] <tuxta2> heh
[05:30] <gnomefreak> cribbon: language man
[05:31] <jdmpike> hello all
[05:31] <Soviet_Toast> does anyone here use apache?
[05:31] <Kr4t05> mkay
[05:31] <Kr4t05> Is there a way to get just gedit?
[05:31] <jdmpike> I need a better news reader than Pan, does anyone know of one?
[05:31] <Kr4t05> Or...
[05:31] <Kr4t05> Nevermind
[05:31] <Kr4t05> I'll use Kate
[05:31] <HymnToLife> !anyoone
[05:31] <ubotu> HymnToLife: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:31] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[05:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[05:31] <gnomefreak> Kr4t05: installing gedit is like installing k3b it will bring stuff with it
[05:32] <Soviet_Toast> i have apache, i dont have a clue how to add/remove content... or anything
[05:32] <Kr4t05> gnomefreak: Gotcha.
[05:32] <jdmpike> Pan can't download headers from groups that have millions of headers
[05:32] <Kr4t05> gnomefreak: nano/kate
[05:32] <Kr4t05> :P
[05:32] <HymnToLife> arr/remove content to what ?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Kr4t05: vim/emacs
[05:32] <Soviet_Toast> my webserver
[05:32] <HymnToLife> the root of your website is /var/www
[05:32] <LjL> notepad/write
[05:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:32] <Kr4t05> !info vim
[05:32] <ubotu> vim: (Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor), section editors, is important. Version: 1:6.3-078+1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 686 kB, Installed size: 1364 kB
[05:32] <HymnToLife> just sopy files into it
[05:32] <Kr4t05> kewl
[05:32] <LjL> ubotu: it's not important
[05:32] <ubotu> LjL: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:32] <Xenguy> nickrud: back - thanks, I'll try that ~/.gnomerc tip (I find the increasing complexity of these initialization files, say as compared to debian, to be aggravating frankly; it makes it hard to customize simple things like this)
[05:33] <Soviet_Toast> im a ubuntu noob
[05:33] <HymnToLife> well then
[05:33] <Kr4t05> Soviet_Toast: Just dig in
[05:33] <Soviet_Toast> i only installed it yesterday after i used a live cd for a week
[05:33] <HymnToLife> whatever you put in your /var/www folder
[05:33] <HymnToLife> will appear at the root of your web server
[05:33] <Kr4t05> Soviet_Toast: Have fun, man.
[05:33] <Soviet_Toast> where is this folder?
[05:33] <Jolly> Hi does anyone know a way to get Sound Juicer to rip cds to mp3 format
[05:33] <arrinmurr> jdmpike: knode ;)
[05:33] <nickrud> Xenguy: I leaned that one in debian, it's been around forever  The rest of it is just bash.
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jolly about mp3
[05:34] <jmartini> Soviet_Toast: cd /var/www
[05:34] <gnomefreak> that might help
[05:34] <Jolly> Apple Ipods do not recognize oggvorbis format correct??
[05:34] <funkyHat> Jolly, correct
[05:34] <XCasoAfflaminio> hi all, i would like to install Ubuntu on my system, but I have an intel 82801 raid controller and the installer doesn't see my logical drives... how do I install it?!?!??
[05:34] <XCasoAfflaminio> can anyone help me?
[05:34] <m00s3s> What is the default root password in Ubuntu? Cause it doesnt ask for one during the installation... =P
[05:34] <gnomefreak> dont know im more of a radio (with cd player) type person
[05:34] <jdmpike> Why has development on Pan stopped?
[05:34] <LjL> !tell m00s3s about root
[05:34] <Kr4t05> !raid
[05:34] <USER015160> ciao
[05:34] <ubotu> hmm... raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[05:34] <tuxta2> is Ubuntu dapper or later, likely to ship with upower or splashy instead of, or least as well as usplash? (not a fan of usplash!)
[05:34] <Xenguy> nickrud: still, compare even .bashrc/.bash_profile between ubuntu and debian; I think you will see what I mean
[05:35] <USER015160> qualcuno si  accorto di me
[05:35] <funkyHat> tuxta2, no
[05:35] <Kr4t05> XCasoAfflaminio: Follow ubotu's link.
[05:35] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:35] <LjL> !it
[05:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:35] <m00s3s> thanks LjL <3
[05:35] <gnomefreak> it was one of the 2
[05:35] <Kr4t05> Let's not abuse the bot.
[05:35] <tatters> ive got a NATrouter/firewall/gateway device and a DSL modem,I want to place a server in front of my NAT/firewall ,so  could I a use a a hub?   DSL modem -->>HUB -->>Gateway/router  then just hook the box I want in front of firewall to my Hub?
[05:35] <Kr4t05> oh
[05:35] <Kr4t05> nvm
[05:35] <tuxta2> funky > to the point, I like it
[05:35] <jdmpike> it is good to see this channel so active
[05:35] <nickrud> Xenguy: yes, a lot more. (I replace them)
[05:35] <XCasoAfflaminio> thank you ubotu, thank you Kr4t05
[05:35] <Kr4t05> NP
[05:35] <se1> hi, whats the Topic?
[05:35] <jdmpike> I love the Ubuntu comunity
[05:35] <gnomefreak> yep were up to 500
[05:35] <Jolly> So I have to pay money to get a program to rip to mp3s in Ubuntu? and Apple has not released a version of Itunes for Linux correct???
[05:35] <LjL> gnomefreak: i'm italian, so i guess i might know which one of the two it was ;-) poor chap, he asked whether "anybody had noticed him"
[05:35] <gnomefreak> se1: /topic
[05:36] <Kr4t05> sel: This is a support channel.
[05:36] <Xenguy> nickrud: you mean you substitute deb's for ubu's, and it works without problems?
[05:36] <HymnToLife> Soviet_Toast> check your PMs :)
[05:36] <se1> ok, then i am right here
[05:36] <tuxta2> jolly> I dont know about sound juicer, but grip does a fine job
[05:36] <jmartini> Jolly: install grip or RipperX
[05:36] <nickrud> Xenguy: no, I have my own profile & rc, I just carry them around
[05:36] <HymnToLife> or abcde :)
[05:36] <alain_> Kr4t05: Where is the development channel?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> se1: what can we help you with
[05:36] <se1> does anyone know how to set the LC-Language Variables to another language then POSIX?
[05:36] <Xenguy> nickrud: good to know - tx again
[05:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alain_: #ubuntu-devel
[05:37] <alain_> thnx :)
[05:37] <Protocol1> is there a way to create a restore point on ubuntu like there is on windows......like say if I had a crash..is there an option to recover?
[05:37] <Jolly> tuxta2, can i get that in synaptic??
[05:37] <Kr4t05> alain_: #ubuntu1+ is the Dapper (Next release) development channel.
[05:37] <LjL> Protocol1: you wish
[05:37] <Kr4t05> Or.
[05:37] <Kr4t05> Nvm
[05:37] <tuxta2> jolly > yes
[05:37] <Kr4t05> Thanks, PuMpErNiCkLe
[05:37] <Frogzoo> tatters: that will make for an interesting routing setup...
[05:37] <nickrud> Xenguy: I spent a fair amount of time working out what gets sourced when, made them, and forgot everything 
[05:37] <LjL> Protocol1: but really :) you should probably never need something as drastic as a "recovery point"
[05:37] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: i dont think so but you can back up stuff
[05:38] <LjL> Protocol1: just boot into recovery mode and fix whatever has gone wrong. it can always get fixed one way or another
[05:38] <Protocol1> ok...noob mind here
[05:38] <Protocol1> just learning it
[05:38] <Kr4t05> Sweetness.
[05:38] <funkyHat> tuxta2, hehe, no point beating about the bush. iirc usplash was developed because splashy and upower were considered not to be good enough. Memory's a bit fuzzy but I think the reason included one being in kernel space or something
[05:38] <alain_> Kr4t05: I'm not interested in Dapper. I would like to have a smooth and stable Breezy
[05:38] <luokka> hi, i have mounted some windows folders with samba. after a while the connection times out. how can i bring it back up?
[05:39] <tatters> Well fogzoo I got it set up as hardned snort box so want it infront of my firewall , its got 2 NICS one for sniffing and on efor management
[05:39] <gnomefreak> alain_: breezy is smooth and stable
[05:39] <luokka> mounting it again doesnt help
[05:39] <alain_> And I want Breezy to react as I supose
[05:39] <LjL> funkyHat: i think the upower author is a bit upset by the decision =)
[05:39] <Protocol1> i always have ubuntu install disks around just in case something happens
[05:39] <Protocol1> so..yeah
[05:39] <gnomefreak> alain_: that all depedns on what you are telling ti to do
[05:39] <LjL> Protocol1: a Live CD is probably the best thing to have around
[05:39] <Frogzoo> tatters: as long as it's only snort, and no need to contact the net, then sweet
[05:39] <tuxta2> splashy and upower are totally user space, and much easier to customize and far prettier
[05:39] <gnomefreak> depends*
[05:39] <Kr4t05> jahahahaha
[05:39] <funkyHat> LjL, not that surprising
[05:39] <Protocol1> I have both actually
[05:39] <HymnToLife> +1 gnomefreak
[05:40] <gnomefreak> HymnToLife: for what?
[05:40] <Protocol1> i got like 5 copies a week ago
[05:40] <tuxta2> also upower and splashy work on shutdown not just boot up
[05:40] <tuxta2> not a fan of usplash
[05:40] <HymnToLife> [17:39]  gnomefreak alain_: that all depedns on what you are telling ti to do <= that
[05:40] <Kr4t05> alain_: Breezy is smooth and stable; more so than certain, other OSes.
[05:40] <GutterPunk> Hello
[05:40] <GutterPunk> Is there anyone in here using nvidia TwinView?
[05:40] <LjL> Protocol1: well by means of a live cd, you can almost always fix any problem (unless data has been seriously corrupted of course). you just have to know how, but at least with a Live CD you should have no problem connecting to this channel and asking
[05:40] <funkyHat> tuxta2, I read there might be graphical shutdown in Dapper
[05:41] <william> is there a way to get integrated sound to work on a sony vaio?
[05:41] <Kr4t05> GutterPunk: Tried twice, I can't seem to make it work. :/
[05:41] <Protocol1> whoa good point
[05:41] <tuxta2> gutterpunk> not at the moment but I was using it 6months ago
[05:41] <GutterPunk> I have this problem with it. My setup is CRT-0 1280x1024 and DFP-0 1400x1050. When running, on the CRT there is a part of the panel missing
[05:41] <LjL> funkyHat: i would really hope so. usplash is quite incomplete without one - also, one for hibernation/sleep would be most welcome, and i think it's been worked on
[05:41] <tuxta2> funky> well that would be a start
[05:41] <HymnToLife> !resolution
[05:41] <ubotu> somebody said resolution was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:41] <Frogzoo> william: depends which model - works here tho
[05:41] <alain_> Kr4t05: I don't agree. But that isn't important. I want to understand the ubuntu thought so I can aprove my own installation.
[05:41] <william> i have a vgn-fs640
[05:41] <alain_> aprove == improve
[05:41] <william> and it sees the card
[05:42] <Protocol1> live cd only has what a fresh install has correct?
[05:42] <alain_> Sorry for my poor english
[05:42] <william> but it just has no sound
[05:42] <HymnToLife> !nl
[05:42] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[05:42] <LjL> funkyHat: personally, i would also like a specific splash screen for emergency shutdowns... like, say, with an icon of a burning CPU, or something depicting a black-out (for UPS shutdown) :)
[05:42] <Frogzoo> william: if it sees the card - OSS should work out of the box
[05:42] <Xenguy> nickrud: sorry, are you able to pastebin your ~/.gnomerc ?  I have no such file.  (Or did you just copy/paste the '~/bin' PATH snippet from ~/.bash_profile into ~/.gnomerc ?) ?
[05:42] <william> is there a oss config tool?
[05:42] <nickrud> Xenguy: just create, copy paste
[05:42] <gnomefreak> Protocol1: most of it yes there are things you can get from install that live you cant
[05:42] <Xenguy> nickrud: K, tx
[05:42] <Frogzoo> !tell william about sound
[05:42] <LjL> hmm... why is it that the dutch Ubotu reply doesn't really sound like the standard "should #blah to get dutch help with ubuntu"? =)
[05:42] <Protocol1> got ya
[05:43] <tuxta2> LjL > heh, that never happens on Ubuntu, so no splash neaded!
[05:43] <nickrud> Xenguy: I once went so far as to source my entire .bashrc there; I don't recommend it
[05:43] <OperaG> Good morning
[05:43] <HymnToLife> LjL> if you have a better one, just tell it to ubotu
[05:43] <sooz> hi all
[05:43] <Frogzoo> william: you probly just need to set - system -> prefs -> mm selector to OSS
[05:43] <LjL> tuxta2: nah :) the CPU or something could still overheat, power could still fail, an intrusion detection program could still decide to emergency shutdown, etc
[05:43] <sooz> how do I permenantly set up mount points so I can use them in the GNOME VFS?
[05:43] <HappyFool> LjL: guess the dutch go crazy for coffee ;)
[05:44] <william> mm selector?
[05:44] <william> i don't see that
[05:44] <LjL> HymnToLife: i don't, i don't speak dutch. but that reply kind of sounds like something Seveas could have put in, even though i don't really understand what it says =)
[05:44] <william> nevermind
[05:44] <LjL> HappyFool: heh
[05:44] <william> sorry
[05:44] <william> see it
[05:44] <funkyHat> william, multimedia systems selector is probably ment
[05:44] <funkyHat> *meant
[05:44] <Jolly> tuxta2, thanks for your recommendation on grip, this looks like something i was looking for
[05:44] <OperaG> I am a relatively new Linux user, and currently using Linspire (it seemed the easiest way to switch from Windows)...  but not that thrilled today...  Anyone can tell me more about Ubuntu?
[05:44] <tuxta2> jolly> no prob
[05:44] <HappyFool> 'the coffee is already waiting for you', something like that
[05:44] <inthane> Oh great Ubuntu wizards, I beg a boon...
[05:44] <HappyFool> heh
[05:45] <Peivol> hola
[05:45] <LjL> HappyFool: yeah that's the idea i got from it too :)
[05:45] <HymnToLife> OperaG> well what would you epect by coming here
[05:45] <inthane> Are there any disadvantages to using the A64 version of Ubuntu over the i386 version?
[05:45] <Peivol> el canal en espaol por favor?
[05:45] <Frogzoo> OperaG: I couldn't go back to windows now, no way
[05:45] <Peivol> ppingu
[05:45] <HymnToLife> everyone is going to tell you Ubuntu is the best distro in the universe
[05:45] <Seveas> LjL, want some coffee?
[05:45] <Peivol> aloha!
[05:45] <inthane> This gentle supplicant would know the answer...
[05:45] <Peivol> xD
[05:45] <william> default sink output is on esd, but it won't allow me to switch it to oss
[05:45] <johndarkhorse> inthane: yes, less choices on closed source apps
[05:45] <johndarkhorse> !es
[05:45] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:45] <Janno> !java
[05:45] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:45] <HymnToLife> go to #debien, debien is the best
[05:45] <HymnToLife> etc
[05:45] <william> well, it allows me but the test doesn't work
[05:45] <LjL> Seveas: no thanks, had my cup at breakfast, i.e. just two hours ago :)
[05:45] <johndarkhorse> Peivol: vaya de el #ubuntu-es por favor
[05:45] <Frogzoo> HymnToLife: yeh, but they'd be right ;)
[05:46] <william> it says, "failed to construct pipeline"
[05:46] <tuxta2> OperaG >Ubuntu is great, but does require a little more knowledge that Linspire, so maybe try to fix your problem first
[05:46] <inthane> johdarkhorse: thanks!  Any notable ones (Cedga, *cough* *cough*)
[05:46] <HymnToLife> 'f course Frogzoo why d'you think I'm here ? :p
[05:47] <HymnToLife> tuxta2> but, unlike linspire, ubuntu has a very helpful commmunity :)
[05:47] <johndarkhorse> inthane: flash, w32codecs, some movie codecs, etc
[05:47] <HymnToLife> so lack of knowldge can easily be fixed
[05:47] <inthane> johndarkhorse: Damn, guess it's the i386 version for me, then... :P
[05:47] <ppiNgU> eii peivol!
[05:47] <tuxta2> HymnToLife> and it IS the best distro
[05:47] <inthane> johndarkhorse: Thank you!
[05:47] <Frogzoo> william: I think you want source = OSS, & sink = alsa ?
[05:47] <johndarkhorse> inthane: i suggest using the i686 kernel
[05:47] <william> ok, let me try
[05:48] <lucio12> hello
[05:48] <inthane> johndarkhorse: Not the K7 kernel?
[05:48] <johndarkhorse> inthane: your choice, the i686 handles ram of >768mb
[05:48] <Telarian02> Does anyone know a fix to stop resolv.conf being cleaned out besides chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf???
[05:48] <inthane> johndarkhorse: You mean, I've got 2gb of RAM, and the K7 kernel doesn't handle that?
[05:48] <johndarkhorse> inthane: i'm not so good with math. more ram than 768mb is what the 686 was compiled for
[05:49] <Installer36> OperaG , i  started with linspire and made the switch because the support with this community is far greater
[05:49] <michael> sver de?
[05:49] <Frogzoo> Telarian02: why would you want to stop it being cleaned out when ppp drops?
[05:49] <Soviet_Toast> i cant configure my router
[05:49] <bigon> someone know how the initrd can load radeonfb instead of vga16fb?
[05:49] <michael> sever de??????
[05:49] <gnomefreak> !de
[05:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:49] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:49] <Frogzoo> bigon: options in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:49] <Xenguy> nickrud: the ~/.gnomerc trick seems to have worked - tx yet again :-)
[05:50] <Telarian02> Frogzoo, i have static ip and I have to type in DNS everytime after reboot to get internet to work
[05:50] <nickrud> Xenguy: yw
[05:50] <bunniears> hi again guys
[05:50] <bigon> Frogzoo, thx I will try
[05:50] <gnomefreak> hi again
[05:50] <william> nope, still nothing
[05:51] <aroticoz> how can I set my root Password ?
[05:51] <william> i go to play the sound and nothing happens
[05:51] <bunniears> if i just want a server, but want a GUI to use with it, how would i go about that :)?
[05:51] <`guardian> how to install dapper from scratch ? is there any iso ?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell aroticoz about root
[05:51] <william> but it has "headphone" and "pc speaker" in the volume bar, shoudl both be unmuted?
[05:51] <HymnToLife> bunniears> that's weird
[05:51] <aroticoz> thanks
[05:51] <jdmpike> anyone in here use KNode?
[05:51] <setite> hola compadres
[05:51] <HymnToLife> a GUI is useless for a server
[05:51] <gnomefreak> bunniears: you want to run a server and use gui?
[05:51] <sooz> how do I re-read /etc/fstab ?
[05:51] <bunniears> Graphical User Interface :/
[05:52] <gnomefreak> bunniears: i would install ubuntu as default and than add the server packages
[05:52] <OperaG> my biggest concern is with installing software without "CNR" - Linspire wants users to think it's complicated, but is it that much?
[05:52] <HymnToLife> yeah, we know what a GUI is thanks ;)
[05:52] <Frogzoo> Telarian02: wierd - resolv.conf is only touched afaik by ppp starting up? check /etc/network/interfaces & remove rogue ppp entries, or usepeerdns options in /etc/ppp/peers
[05:52] <gnomefreak> i didnt :(
[05:52] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:52] <gnomefreak> cnr?
[05:53] <Installer36> OperaG just  d/l ubuntu and give it a shot...
[05:53] <Frogzoo> william: oh yes, you also need to check mute off from - app -> sound -> vol control
[05:53] <Telarian02> Frogzoo, it is messed with by dhcp client and I have tried to edit all the dhcp scripts as well with no luck
[05:53] <bunniears> k ta
[05:53] <bunniears> x
[05:53] <bunniears> bye
[05:53] <OperaG> gnomefreak: today i use Linspire - they got that service where you click and all software auto-installs
[05:53] <gnomefreak> OperaG: yuck
[05:53] <HymnToLife> Telarian02> which kind of connection are you using ?
[05:53] <HymnToLife> (internet connection I mean)
[05:53] <Frogzoo> Telarian02: remove the usepeerdns option - from /etc/ppp/peers/ISP
[05:54] <Telarian02> HymToLife, cable
[05:54] <funkyHat> OperaG, installing software without CNR is very easy. To install most programs you could possibly want you won't need to touch a command line anyway... so there's not that much difference
[05:54] <OperaG> gnomefreak: and since I got no background with other distros, I am kind of worried
[05:54] <GutterPunk> How do I enable Xinerama?
[05:54] <Frogzoo> Telarian02: oh, dhcp, not ppp - soz
[05:54] <william> frogzoo: all are unmuted
[05:55] <HymnToLife> OperaG> no worry, the community will help you to whatever
[05:55] <gnomefreak> OperaG: most distros now have a packagemanager gui that allows you to view the package and a lil info about it
[05:55] <william> everything is unmuted
[05:55] <Installer36> OperaG how did you get Linspire
[05:55] <gnomefreak> Installer36: bought it most likely
[05:55] <lucio12> unistall
[05:55] <OperaG> installer36: I bought it for 50$ ...  yeah I know, I probably look stupid right now
[05:55] <Frogzoo> william: checked for both devices?
[05:55] <hari> hi
[05:56] <HymnToLife> OperaG> you don't
[05:56] <lucio12> shet
[05:56] <HymnToLife> I've bought lots of distros
[05:56] <Installer36> No ....Some PC are preloaded with it
[05:56] <LjL> 50$? sheeesh
[05:56] <gnomefreak> OperaG: i thought about buying it when i first entered linux world than relized its not worth the money
[05:56] <HymnToLife> just so I could think I helped a bit :p
[05:56] <william> as in headphone and speaker?
[05:56] <pdlnhrd> is it safe to run the x86 on the amd64(emt64 to be exact)? ?
[05:56] <william> everything is unmuted, what other devices are there?
[05:56] <hari> can u tell me how to share a hd to the rest of the network?
[05:56] <mustard5> gnomefreak, well that might be relative to a persons needs :)
[05:56] <funkyHat> OperaG, no worries, you don't look stupid. People go out and buy operating systems, hell, MINOR UPGRADES for operating systems (i.e. panther etc.) for over $200
[05:57] <LjL> you know, when i gave out some of the shipped Ubuntu CD, somebody asked me "uh but is there no serial number than i need to type?"
[05:57] <LjL> sigh
[05:57] <HymnToLife> lmao LjL
[05:57] <gnomefreak> mustard5: true but i dont see those pay distros having anything a free one doesnt
[05:57] <OperaG> Other question: if I was to move from Linspire to Ubuntu, what happens with my emails and other stuff?  Do I need to back it up or is the install so smart that it will grab them for me?
[05:57] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, support certain programs.. which the person may require to run
[05:57] <LjL> OperaG: you will definitely need to back them up
[05:57] <gnomefreak> ahhhhh
[05:57] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak> the feeling that you helped the developers a bit if you're not skilled enough to do anything else
[05:58] <hari> can u tell me how to share a hd to the rest of the network?
[05:58] <LjL> OperaG: the installer might leave your home directory intact if you ask it to, but i wouldn't take the risk
[05:58] <funkyHat> That's the only good reason anyone has for not using a free operating system
[05:58] <lucio12> jfpakopsd
[05:58] <lucio12> asfdfsdok,gfsd
[05:58] <lucio12> sdgp+df
[05:58] <lucio12> h
[05:58] <lucio12> +gfdh
[05:58] <lucio12> gfj
[05:58] <lucio12> g
[05:58] <lucio12> j
[05:58] <lucio12> hg
[05:58] <lucio12> j
[05:58] <gnomefreak> lucio12: stop
[05:58] <HymnToLife> goddmanit
[05:58] <LjL> !ops
[05:58] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[05:58] <lucio12> hgf
[05:58] <lucio12> j
[05:58] <lucio12> hgj
[05:58] <lucio12> j
[05:58] <lucio12> hg
[05:58] <funkyHat> bye bye lucio12
[05:58] <lucio12> jhg
[05:58] <mustard5> thanks johndarkhorse
[05:58] <funkyHat> Thanks :)
[05:59] <Frogzoo> william: apps -> sound -> volume control -> file -> change device - check pcm mutes for both analog device & intel
[05:59] <hari> can u tell me how to share a hd to the rest of the network?
[05:59] <`guardian> how to get ubuntu dapper drake ? install 5.10 and then ???
[05:59] <OperaG> ok...  now can I tell you a couple of things I have a hard time doing with Linspire, so you can tell me if I can do them with Ubuntu?
[05:59] <mustard5> hari, you installed samba?
[05:59] <LjL> !tell `guardian about dapper
[05:59] <johnmournahan> how do I get # in terminal
[05:59] <william> great!
[05:59] <gnomefreak> johnmournahan: sudo -i
[05:59] <william> i got some static now, haha
[05:59] <william> hmm
[05:59] <setite> dumb question of the day : what ubuntu version are we on now
[06:00] <mustard5> ubotu, tell hari about samba
[06:00] <`guardian> thx ljl
[06:00] <johnmournahan> gnomefreak; thank you
[06:00] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:00] <aroticoz> how do I change the permission to a file
[06:00] <aroticoz> ?
[06:00] <HymnToLife> OperaG> just ask :)
[06:00] <william> i have sound
[06:00] <LjL> aroticoz: man chmod
[06:00] <LjL> !tell aroticoz about cli
[06:00] <william> but i have static
[06:00] <Frogzoo> william: cool
[06:00] <mack520> my ubuntu 5.1 config by dhcp won't get DNS server from airport- I have to enter manually- any way to fix?
[06:00] <mustard5> hari, are we talking windows shares?
[06:00] <OperaG> 1) install script in X-chat so I can share my mp3's
[06:01] <OperaG> 2) run Games in Cedega
[06:01] <Frogzoo> william: can't help with static - mebbe turn mike input off?
[06:01] <william> tried
[06:01] <subsonic> hi
[06:01] <gnomefreak> OperaG: yes to both
[06:01] <HymnToLife> mack520> do you have a DHCP server running on your desktop ?
[06:01] <william> it only makes it a little better
[06:01] <setite> the latter is possible i know personally
[06:01] <OperaG> 3) Have Firefox the default browser
[06:01] <mack520> no- dhcp served by airport
[06:01] <gnomefreak> OperaG: yes
[06:01] <OperaG> 4) Have Kontact the defaut email client
[06:01] <setite> OperaG 3 is the default
[06:01] <gnomefreak> opryes
[06:01] <Remenic> hi
[06:01] <setite> you have trouble doing those in linspire!!!
[06:01] <HymnToLife> OperaG> all of this will work exactly the same way as in linspire
[06:01] <Remenic> anyone know Mark Shuttleworth's nickname on irc?
[06:01] <subsonic> can anyone help me with the install of msttcorefonts?
[06:01] <mack520> no- dhcp served by airport
[06:01] <gnomefreak> OperaG: yes that should read
[06:01] <setite> damn linspire must be getting really bad
[06:02] <LjL> firefox default browser, and kontact default mailer. perhaps notepad default editor? ;P
[06:02] <HymnToLife> as they are the same apps
[06:02] <subsonic> The MS fonts don't show up in my synaptic.
[06:02] <subsonic> apt-get install msttcorefonts doesn't work either.
[06:02] <subsonic> I got Universe and Multiverse repositories enabled.
[06:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell subsonic about fonts
[06:02] <Frogzoo> william: sys -> prefs -> mm selector -> output test should give a tone now, yes?
[06:02] <william> yep!
[06:02] <OperaG> hymn: well these are things that dont work well with Linspire - I'm looking for improvement here :-)
[06:02] <william> it is only static if i have volume all the way up
[06:02] <LjL> Remenic: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[06:02] <setite> you should be happy with ubuntu
[06:02] <HymnToLife> don't work well ?
[06:02] <bigon> Frogzoo, I added radeonfb in /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and recreate the initrd but the module is not in it
[06:02] <Frogzoo> william: excellent
[06:03] <setite> ya what HymnToLife said... how do those not work well
[06:03] <HymnToLife> I guess you should be able to get them working on Ubuntu*
[06:03] <setite> like with the email and browser... isnt that like a sink or swim thing
[06:03] <HymnToLife> it's pretty easy :)
[06:04] <Installer36> setite i foung everything worked ok but just slow
[06:04] <william> thank you alot frogzoo
[06:04] <subsonic> gnomefreak, I used that guide. Should I do it manual?
[06:04] <william> linux is pretty nice
[06:04] <OperaG> hymn: although I changed the default programs all over the place, it's still Linspire's Internet Suite that opens when I click on lithe support links...  and url doesnt transfer from link in email kontact to firefox (browser starts but I need to paste the adress)
[06:04] <william> this is my 5th distro or so
[06:04] <Frogzoo> william: you're very welcome - enjoy :)
[06:04] <HymnToLife> william> linux stinks man
[06:04] <HymnToLife> get Windows :D
[06:04] <omerix> how can i connect to  my siemens sx1 phone in linux
[06:04] <schmity> can someone help me with ubuntu as a webserver
[06:04] <william> i used kubuntu, but it's wifi support was dumbed down
[06:04] <schmity> this is way to hard
[06:04] <LjL> they both stink, get AmigaOS
[06:04] <william> gnome is not too bad
[06:04] <Telarian02> Frogzoo i edited /etc/ppp/peers/provider and rebooted and still lost my nameservers in resolv.conf
[06:04] <OperaG> About Ipod support, does it mount automatically?
[06:04] <k-mandla> is anyone able to listen to the streaming audio on yahoo music/launchcast?
[06:05] <jbroome> OperaG: mine did
[06:05] <HymnToLife> Windows rocks, it has MSN Messenger :D
[06:05] <Frogzoo> Telarian02: is there a usepeerdns entry in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider ?
[06:05] <HymnToLife> (someone ACTUALLY told me that...)
[06:05] <OperaG> hymn: actually, I installed aMSN and I'm happy with this one (hopefully as easy to set with Ubuntu)?
[06:06] <schmity> what does this mean???? Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache. (look at the next chapter concerning apache commands)
[06:06] <raymond8066> could someone help me with airsnort
[06:06] <william> msn messenger!
[06:06] <Frogzoo> bigon: dunno about changing initrd - but you need to pass the kernel options from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:06] <william> linux has gaim!
[06:06] <HymnToLife> OperaG> thre are better ones out there
[06:06] <HymnToLife> gaim or Kopete mainly
[06:07] <Telarian02> Frogzoo, in /etc/ppp/peers/ i have provider wvdial wvdial-pipe
[06:07] <bigon> Frogzoo, the option is in the menu.lst but if the module is not in the initrd it will not works
[06:07] <shinu> hey, is there any way i could recover my mbr?
[06:07] <Frogzoo> Telarian02: grep usepeerdns /etc/ppp/peers/*
[06:07] <OperaG> hymn: Gaim I was not thrilled, it was disconnecting all the time from msn and did not have same features...  however I don't know about Kopete, i'll see if it's in the CNR wharehouse so I can try it...
[06:08] <Frogzoo> bigon: yes, I can see that - but don't know how you'd recreate initrd
[06:08] <hari> mustard5: thank u. The situation is : The network is working fine. Ican use all the windows network from the ubuntu pc. There is an external hd mounted on the ubuntu pc. I can not see and use this hd from the rest of the network.Generally I dont see the ubuntu pc in the windows pcs.I can use the windows pcs from the ubuntu.
[06:08] <bmk789> i keep getting a protocol negotiation error when trying to connect to my server via samba, whats wrong?
[06:08] <bigon> Frogzoo, ok thx
[06:09] <mustard5> hari, my knowledge of sharing on networks is limited to handing out links to HOW TO's unfortunately :D
[06:09] <william> is there any linux music player that can play shared network itunes music?
[06:09] <sdh> cc
[06:09] <hari> mustard5 : thanks anyway
[06:09] <Shed> How can I get rm to remove a directory, someone?
[06:09] <mustard5> hari, hopefully someone else knows
[06:09] <Frogzoo> Shed: rmdir
[06:10] <hari> can anybody help me with networking ?
[06:10] <HymnToLife> !anyone
[06:10] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:10] <Shed> Fantastic, thanks, Frogzoo!
[06:10] <Frogzoo> Shed: or rm -rf to remove directory & contents
[06:10] <OperaG> Do you know if I could see an example of how you install software without CNR?  It's really the part that's stopping me right now...  For an example, I've been trying to install Neverwinter Nights for 3 days now without any success - so you'll understand I wouldn't want that kind of trouble for each program I'd want to install...
[06:10] <HymnToLife> !synaptic
[06:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:10] <HymnToLife> see this link OperaG
[06:10] <HymnToLife> (the one ubotu gave)
[06:10] <GutterPunk> Hi, how can I enable Xinerama in Ubuntu??
[06:11] <yahya> hi. I sort of remember ubuntu has a meta-package to install gcc and other dev tools. what's it called?
[06:11] <schmity> can someone please help me
[06:11] <GutterPunk> My windows automatically stretch over both desktops
[06:11] <Kr4t05> yet another memory lapse/
[06:11] <hari> can anybody help me with networking ?
[06:11] <Kr4t05> What's the commamd to remove a directory?
[06:11] <schmity> rm
[06:11] <Kr4t05> schmity: ah
[06:12] <HymnToLife> Kr4t05> (sudo) rm -R /path/to/dir
[06:12] <Kr4t05> HymnToLife: Thank ye
[06:12] <aroticoz> can ubuntu extract from RAR's ?
[06:12] <schmity> HymnToLife: whats this mean???? Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using
[06:12] <HymnToLife> !tell aroticoz about unrar
[06:13] <aroticoz> didn't work
[06:13] <HymnToLife> !tell aroticoz about rar
[06:13] <aroticoz> ah thanks
[06:13] <schmity> if i cant solve this in an hour, im gonna hafta switch to macosx
[06:13] <schmity> :\
[06:13] <Langly> is there a version of ubuntu for pa-risc procs?
[06:13] <HymnToLife> what exactly are you trying to do schmity ?
[06:13] <OperaG> hymn: so if I understand correctly, Synaptic is almost like CNR - e.g. you select what you want and click to have it installed?
[06:14] <bmk789> i keep getting a protocol negotiation error when trying to connect to my server via samba, whats wrong?
[06:14] <HymnToLife> absolutely OperaG
[06:14] <simulatio> can somebody please help! my desktop "stopped working" ie whatever i click, nothing works, nothing except the keyboard!
[06:14] <johndarkhorse> OperaG: CNR is based on apt-get / synaptic
[06:14] <schmity> simulatio: restart
[06:14] <simulatio> schmity: 5 times already
[06:14] <OperaG> hymn: So basically, Linspire people are full of it when they say it's a very exclusive service that no other distro can provide...
[06:14] <k-mandla> for neverwinter, you might try this. ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113259
[06:14] <HymnToLife> well
[06:15] <schmity> simulatio: did, you open desktop in terminal?
[06:15] <HymnToLife> every distro has a such tool
[06:15] <HymnToLife> just some are better than others
[06:15] <simulatio> schmity: how do you mean?
[06:15] <FlyingPenguin> hello
[06:15] <HymnToLife> Adept (the Kubuntu one) for example sucks big time
[06:15] <LjL> HymnToLife: you say that >:
[06:15] <LinuxJones> FlyingPenguin: hi
[06:15] <LjL> well no it does
[06:15] <HymnToLife> and I'm a Kubuntu user :p
[06:16] <OperaG> hymn: what's the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu?
[06:16] <schmity> simulatio: try cd (something)
[06:16] <HymnToLife> OperaG> the desktop manager used
[06:16] <LjL> OperaG: ubuntu ships with Gnome, Kubuntu ships with KDE
[06:16] <LinuxJones> OperaG: kubuntu used kde as desktop ubuntu uses gnome
[06:16] <HymnToLife> but the difference is a bit artificial
[06:16] <Telarian02> Frogzoo, I grepped usepeerdns and commented it out everywhere i saw it but still no luck
[06:16] <OperaG> hymn: ok, I know Linspire is KDE - how different is it from Gnome?
[06:16] <HymnToLife> since the two distros are the same, just with a dirrerend DE
[06:16] <simulatio> schmity: well, that works, but i can't use my mouse, well i can move it around but i can't click anything... just once when i start ubuntu(weird!)
[06:16] <raymond8066> i need help with install , can someone help
[06:16] <LjL> OperaG: the GUI is quite different
[06:16] <HymnToLife> OperaG> it is very differen
[06:17] <HymnToLife> I'd advise you to try both
[06:17] <OperaG> like, are there some programs that will run in one but not the other?
[06:17] <HymnToLife> and decide which one you like more
[06:17] <LjL> OperaG: no
[06:17] <HymnToLife> OperaG> no
[06:17] <OperaG> so it's mostly cosmetic then?
[06:17] <HymnToLife> every program will run on both
[06:17] <simulatio> schmity: i can't tab between windows (alt+TAB) either
[06:17] <LjL> OperaG: but if you have Gnome, and want to install a KDE program, you will have to install a lot of KDE libraries as well. also, the integration between the two desktops is not optimal yet - windows will look different, etc
[06:17] <raymond8066> ill type make and i get a error can someone help
[06:17] <OperaG> btw I know I am asking lots of questions - thanks for taking the time to answer them :-)
[06:18] <curley_sue> Hi all! how do I take a window screenshot using the command-line?
[06:18] <HymnToLife> no problem :)
[06:18] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  whaare you trying to install?
[06:18] <raymond8066> drivers
[06:18] <LjL> OperaG: it's more than just cosmetic. but the two desktops *are* working hard to make running one's applications on another as seamless as possible
[06:18] <HappyFool> curley_sue: gnome-screenshot, at a guess
[06:18] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  need to be more specific
[06:18] <raymond8066> uhh i dont know
[06:18] <OperaG> Ok - I guess if it's a matter of look and feel, the best way will be to look at the screenshots to figure out the differences?
[06:19] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  you dont install something if you dont know what its for
[06:19] <cppnewbie> raymond8066 what drivers? :P
[06:19] <raymond8066> wireless network
[06:19] <curley_sue> HappyFool, that takes the whole screen, I want a single window (the term for expml)
[06:19] <IdleOne> !wireless
[06:19] <ubotu> hmm... wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[06:19] <HymnToLife> OperaG> no
[06:19] <k-mandla> curley_sue: yeah, gnome-screenshot, but i don't know if that works outside the gnome environment
[06:19] <HymnToLife> it's to actually try them
[06:19] <HymnToLife> the looks are not all
[06:19] <HappyFool> curley_sue: gnome-screenshot --help suggests a --window option
[06:19] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  follow that link above ^ from ubotu
[06:20] <LjL> OperaG: nah, the best way is to try both
[06:20] <LjL> OperaG: since anyway you can always install Gnome or Kubuntu or KDE on Ubuntu
[06:20] <raymond8066> well, ill type make and it says command not found
[06:20] <vasser> hello
[06:20] <curley_sue> HappyFool, tried that and received an error
[06:20] <Kr4t05> How do I add items to the boot-up services?
[06:21] <vasser> i have just install ubuntu, and getting this message on startup (of gnome):
[06:21] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  type sudo apt-get install build-essential this will install the tools for make and make install
[06:21] <vasser> >> "i've detected a panel already running" <<
[06:21] <LjL> OperaG: quite a few people have both installed. you can choose to use one or another when you login
[06:21] <HappyFool> curley_sue: what was the error ?
[06:21] <HymnToLife> LjL> exactly why I'm saying the difference Ubuntu/Kubuntu is artificial
[06:21] <OperaG> ok - but I guess that if you tell my that synaptic is better than it's Kubuntu's counterpart, I may be best to consider Ubuntu than Kubuntu, altough this involves changing from KDE to Gnome?
[06:21] <LjL> OperaG: you could even have different users on the same computer using different desktops
[06:21] <HymnToLife> those are the same
[06:21] <simulatio> schmity: do you think you might be able to help me?
[06:21] <LjL> HymnToLife: yeah though removing Gnome from Ubuntu or KDE from Kubuntu is slightly less than trivial
[06:21] <moonman> OperaG, i just loaded KDE, and i also have gnome
[06:21] <moonman> its not that weird
[06:21] <avu> Is there a way to make GTK application running under KDE honor the icon theme configured under gnome? When running under KDE, they all seem to use the default icon theme, no matter what my gnome settings are.
[06:21] <HymnToLife> OperaG> some KDE apps are better than the Gnome one
[06:21] <vasser> nm
[06:21] <vasser> all fixed :-)
[06:22] <LinuxJones> OperaG: you can just install synaptic and run it in kde
[06:22] <OperaG> hymn: it's now become hard to choose... :-)
[06:22] <HymnToLife> k3b for example which is the KDE CD burning tool is a million times better than Gnomebaker (the Gnome one)
[06:22] <HymnToLife> OperaG> personnally I have both KDE and Gnome installed$
[06:22] <HymnToLife> so I have all the apps :)
[06:22] <cppnewbie> heh same here
[06:22] <cppnewbie> :D
[06:22] <curley_sue> HappyFool, it's the GNOME regular "the application "gnome-screenshot" has quit unexpectedlt. you can inform..." window
[06:23] <raymond8066> thanks
[06:23] <IdleOne> HymnToLife,  your are lucky to have a box that can support all them apps ;/
[06:23] <HymnToLife> well
[06:23] <OperaG> don't forget I am quite new to the Linux world - would having both desktops be a complicated thing to set-up?
[06:23] <HappyFool> curley_sue: bizarre. i know it's not much help, but 'gnome-screenshot --window --delay 1' works ok here
[06:23] <HymnToLife> just an old Celeron 2,8 laptopwith 512 MB RAM and a 40 GB hd
[06:23] <moonman> IdleOne, what ARE you running?
[06:24] <cppnewbie> OperaG, i am very new as well and it isnt very hard :D
[06:24] <IdleOne> P2 233mhz 92mb ram
[06:24] <HymnToLife> OperaG> not at all
[06:24] <HymnToLife> it's very easy
[06:24] <HymnToLife> wow
[06:24] <HymnToLife> that's a legacy box
[06:24] <L00K> hi folks
[06:24] <cppnewbie> that is superb! :D
[06:24] <cppnewbie> hey L00K
[06:24] <z3r0x> does anybody know how to install skype on a amd64
[06:24] <HymnToLife> I have a 486 DX with linux on
[06:24] <L00K> is there a help channel
[06:24] <HymnToLife> (no KDE though, with 8 MB RAM :/)
[06:24] <moonman> ive got a p3
[06:25] <schmity> simulatio: with what?
[06:25] <L00K> need instalation help :(
[06:25] <moonman> what does slingshot do?
[06:25] <devon> any suggestions on a linux friendly usb color inkjet printer? which to get?
[06:25] <HymnToLife> !helpme
[06:25] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:25] <simulatio> schmity: with the mouse-prob?
[06:25] <L00K> ok
[06:25] <HymnToLife> devon> anything from HP
[06:25] <ompaul> L00K, your not defining the problem in a meaningful way
[06:25] <schmity> its a mouse problem simulatio ?
[06:25] <devon> HymnToLife..ok thx
[06:25] <k-mandla> has anyone gotten ubuntu stickers from that site in germany?
[06:25] <matt_> hi. i've downloaded enemy terrirory and got a .run-file. when i just doubleclick it, it gets opened with gedit. how can i run it?
[06:26] <moonman> wait, what does Katapult do?
[06:26] <curley_sue> HappyFool, same error. uppon choosing restart app it tries to take the while screen
[06:26] <schmity> i thought it was a desktop problem?
[06:26] <HymnToLife> matt_> chmod + x filename .run && ./filename.run
[06:26] <simulatio> schmity: well, partly... i can just use it to open more "copies" of the first thing i click on when ubuntu starts...
[06:26] <HymnToLife> +x*
[06:26] <LinuxJones> matt_: chmod +x file.run then in the same directory type sh file.run
[06:26] <matt_> ah, thanks
[06:27] <OperaG> hymn: I actually need to burn cd's quite often, so from what you say, i'm better to stick around with KDE based desktop at the beginning (then install the gnome one)...  and then add synaptic on it.  Are Kubuntu and Ubuntu communities the same?  Will I get as good support if I go with Kubuntu?
[06:27] <schmity> simulatio: so whats wrong then?
[06:27] <HymnToLife> OperaG> from what I see, the #kubuntu channel is a bit less active
[06:27] <moonman> OperaG, didnt we already decide that you could just run regular ubuntu with KDE loaded in on top?
[06:27] <HymnToLife> but if I were you I would install a gversion
[06:27] <simulatio> schmity: let's say that i click on the firefox icon... i can only use my mouse to click the firefox icon (nothing else works) until i restart my computer
[06:28] <HymnToLife> and install the other DE just right after
[06:28] <HymnToLife> that's what I always do :p
[06:28] <iG-Shoot-Me> Hmm right now im clearing a partition I have..  After its empty, I can install ubuntu on it?
[06:28] <L00K> what should i do at the bot screen for first time instalation
[06:28] <ompaul> OperaG, kubuntu-desktop is useful in so far as it puts a reasonable set of applications together
[06:28] <cppnewbie> iG-Shoot-Me, you bet :D
[06:28] <OperaG> moonman yeah i guess you're right - I guess I am just getting scared of anything that involves customizing due to the problems I am presently experiencing
[06:28] <L00K> i believe all files are copied but dosnt wanna boot right
[06:28] <iG-Shoot-Me> Someone told me I need 2?
[06:28] <schmity> ok, what then would u like to open firefox with? your keyboard?
[06:29] <moonman> OperaG, wait till you get into creating and mounting partitons
[06:29] <ompaul> iG-Shoot-Me, the installer will break it into two pieces, how much room are you giving it?
[06:29] <cppnewbie> iG-Shoot-Me, its the linux partition and the swap partition, u can just split the already partitioned drive into another two
[06:29] <mirak> is there a way to revert a ubuntu installation to the state it was at the first installation. I mean just have the paquets of the first install
[06:29] <iG-Shoot-Me> The partition is only like 6 GB?
[06:29] <ompaul> iG-Shoot-Me, a little small but it will work well in there
[06:29] <HymnToLife> mirak> reinstll :p
[06:30] <rysiek|pl> iG-Shoot-Me: It's better to split the disk into a few partitions, for security mainly, and you need a swap partition (that's actually not a requirement, but it's really good to have one)
[06:30] <simulatio> schmity: what? what i'm saying is that i can just use the mouse for one thing until i reboot!
[06:30] <LinuxJones> iG-Shoot-Me: you can install ubuntu on 1 partition but it's better to be on a seperate one.
[06:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> Will the installer do that for me?
[06:30] <OperaG> moonman : well for that I think I did quite well ;-) - I got 2 hard drives, one of them is split in 4 x 20gigs partitions...  was able to do it all by myself when I installed Linspire...
[06:30] <mirak> HymnToLife: and without reinstall ? I want it to keep only the package of the base install
[06:30] <rysiek|pl> iG-Shoot-Me: it should. Just remember to give the swap partition about 512MB
[06:30] <HymnToLife> You'll have to repartition it
[06:30] <schmity> simulatio: THEN REBOOT!
[06:30] <IdleOne> !tell iG-Shoot-Me  about dualboot
[06:30] <moonman> OperaG, do it via /etc/fstab and G-parted
[06:30] <curley_sue> ANYONE any ideas on why 'gnome-screenshot --window' crashes?
[06:31] <simulatio> schmity: i've done that FIVE TIMES! it doesn't work!
[06:31] <ompaul> iG-Shoot-Me, but then my machine is 280G :)
[06:31] <HymnToLife> mirak> how would it be different from a fresh install ?
[06:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> lolol
[06:31] <myki> Is there any way to copy file from putty? Maybe using scp?
[06:31] <OperaG> moonman : not sure I am understanding why I'll need to go back to that?  I had used cfdisk to make the partitions?  will I need separate partitions if I have kde and gnome?
[06:32] <mirak> HymnToLife: it would keep my settings
[06:32] <HymnToLife> mirak> did you make a diffrent patition for /home ?
[06:32] <myki> How to copy file from putty to windows?
[06:32] <schmity> simulatio: o you needa reinstall ubuntu then
[06:32] <moonman> OperaG, you need to get out of that frame of mind, KDE/Gnome are just front ends for the terminal
[06:32] <mirak> HymnToLife: yes, but there is system settings I want to keep
[06:32] <simulatio> schmity: eh? reinstall?
[06:32] <schmity> yeah
[06:32] <HymnToLife> OperaG> you're canadian, speaking french by any chance ?
[06:32] <simulatio> schmity: you're kidding
[06:32] <HappyFool> myki: use pscp (get it from the same place as putty)
[06:32] <schmity> no
[06:33] <HymnToLife> I hae a nice tutorial up in french for this
[06:33] <schmity> simulatio: yeah jk
[06:33] <webbber> hi. can anyone help me regarding Captive and mounting an ntfs drive?
[06:33] <schmity> simulatio: ask someone who knows more
[06:33] <simulatio> schmity: welll, thanks
[06:33] <OperaG> moonman : ok I got this right.  Then why do I need to play with partitions?  is it because ubuntu will not work on reiserfs?
[06:33] <schmity> i can barely figure out ubuntu half the time
[06:33] <ipfw> grub wasn't set to put ide-scsi support on my /dev/hdc on boot ... now cdrecord can't find it, is there a way I can get it to properly load now ?
[06:33] <OperaG> hymn : oui je parle francais...  est-ce que mon anglais est si poche que a? ;-) hehe
[06:33] <schmity> did you try to configure ur dekstop file though?
[06:33] <schmity> simulatio: did you?
[06:33] <LinuxJones> OperaG: what are you trying to do again ?
[06:33] <ipfw> I tried just "modprobe ide-scsi" and it loads, but doesn't do anything for the drive
[06:34] <simulatio> schmity: what file??
[06:34] <OperaG> linuxjones: I am inquiring about Ubuntu because I am considering moving from Linspire to Ubuntu
[06:34] <schmity> idk, you know how to use terminal though simulatio ?
[06:34] <Anders0n> Excume, what is the comand for extract the archives of .rmp?
[06:34] <webbber> everything works fine, i just can't actually write to the drive!
[06:34] <LinuxJones> OperaG: Ubuntu is very nice
[06:34] <jon_> OperaG, The main difference is how you install software.  As far as I know
[06:35] <ccc_> are there any video players that does dvd iso playback?
[06:35] <simulatio> schmity: yeah, but not really good, and i need my mouse working, for work
[06:35] <ccc_> image files, that is
[06:35] <simulatio> schmity: whats the files name?
[06:35] <moonman> OperaG, you dont need to
[06:35] <OperaG> jon_ from what I could find out, synaptic kind of compares with CNR...  have you experimented both?
[06:36] <Anders0n> Excume, what is the comand for extract the archives of .rpm?
[06:36] <webbber> ex-chat
[06:36] <myki> how to restart sshd?
[06:36] <dorel> uhmm, has anyone registered a domain with yahoo.com including mail/hosting services?
[06:36] <OperaG> hymn: J'ai de la misre  envoyer des messages pv je pense
[06:36] <dorel> i have a general question
[06:36] <webbber> exit
[06:36] <jon_> OperaG, I've never used CNR, but it seems simple enough.  Synaptic kinda does the job yes...but you'll be doing a bit of configs in txt files.  But it's not a huge worry there's step by step tutorials that if you follow exactly nothing will go wrong.
[06:36] <jon_> OperaG, the main reason why I would switch from Linspire is to save money ;)
[06:37] <schmity> oooo, idk what then
[06:37] <mirak> is there a way to clean non used applications, or least used apps ?
[06:37] <schmity> is ur mouse properly plugged in?
[06:37] <yezariael> anyone here who got airport extreme running? i have a problem installing softmac. anyone experienced?
[06:37] <jon_> OperaG, Like for example, Ubuntu doesn't come with mp3 codes..
[06:37] <schmity> what is the groupname.??
[06:37] <jon_> OperaG, codecs*
[06:37] <OperaG> linspire: yes, I know, but I already bought it...  but there are several things that I am having troubles with, and the support from the community is not that great...
[06:38] <jon_> OperaG, Ubuntu's support is wonderful...What the community doesn't give, google gives.
[06:38] <OperaG> I got more answers today about ubuntu than what I ever got from Linspire since january
[06:38] <LinuxJones> mirak: there is deborphan which will get rid of unused libraries on your system. But not full apps
[06:38] <Anders0n> !alien
[06:38] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:38] <mirak> LinuxJones: ok
[06:38] <rysiek|pl> OperaG: no wonder (K)Ubuntu is #1 in DistroWatch :)
[06:38] <windoze> whoa we are still talking OperaG into getting ubunut
[06:38] <windoze> hehe
[06:38] <jon_> OperaG, Yep ;)
[06:39] <HymnToLife> OperaG> can you PM me ?
[06:39] <jon_> windoze, Yep :)*
[06:39] <HymnToLife> seems I can't send queries
[06:39] <HymnToLife> my firewall must be messed up
[06:39] <rysiek|pl> well, I would suggest Kubuntu
[06:39] <windoze> whoa
[06:40] <sardopsycho> Question....I want to install ThinkFree Office, I downloaded their Linux install - however it has a .sh extension - anyone know how to deal with that?????
[06:40] <jon_> Ubuntu = Gnome, Kubuntu = KDE  KDE has more of a windows feel which I believe? Linspire shoots for..
[06:40] <savon> What shal I do when I have just install Ubuntu?
[06:40] <Anders0n> !rpm
[06:40] <ubotu> hmm... rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[06:40] <OperaG> rysiek: yes I saw that this morning - that ubuntu is #1, and that linspire is going down the drain...  so I came here to find out more about it
[06:40] <jon_> sardopsycho, sh file.sh
[06:40] <raymond8066> why cant i comply stuff
[06:40] <jon_> sardopsycho, You may have to do the sudo sh file.sh
[06:40] <windoze> hey anyone a media person here
[06:40] <sardopsycho> thanx jon_ - trying that now
[06:40] <johnmournahan> what is the command for make dir in terminal
[06:40] <jbroome> ls
[06:40] <savon> !ubuntu
[06:40] <windoze> like using a hometheater with ubuntu
[06:40] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[06:40] <ubuntu__> does ubuntu have good kde support?
[06:40] <pv__> yes
[06:40] <raymond8066> i dont have gcc can someone help
[06:40] <HappyFool> raymond8066: install build-essential
[06:40] <windoze> ubuntu__ kubuntu does :)
[06:40] <hari> in the properties of a hd there is a display that I am not the ownwr of the disk and I can not change the permitions.How can I change that?
[06:41] <linux2> pv__, what version of kde does it have?
[06:41] <savon> Kubuntu has!
[06:41] <johnmournahan> what is the command for make dir in terminal
[06:41] <jbroome> mkdir
[06:41] <jbroome> mkdir dirname
[06:41] <johnmournahan> thanks jbroome
[06:41] <jon_> sardopsycho, I think you have to change to that ... directory of which the sh file is in ;)
[06:41] <johnmournahan> im new to linux
[06:41] <HymnToLife> linux2 > 3.5.1
[06:41] <pv__> savon, kubuntu and ubuntu are almost the same thing...
[06:41] <sardopsycho> yep..it's in my Home directory...so no prob there
[06:41] <pv__> linux2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/kdebase shows the versions
[06:41] <raymond8066> "install: too few arguments
[06:41] <raymond8066> " please me with this error now
[06:41] <windoze> kubuntu makes ubuntu say uncle
[06:42] <rysiek|pl> OperaG: well, I just think that a free OS should be also free from costs - and *man* the community rocks
[06:42] <hari> in the properties of a hd there is a display that I am not the ownwr of the disk and I can not change the permitions.How can I change that?
[06:42] <symlyn> HELPPPPPP my gdm crashes when i type first letter of my password? what could be the problem??
[06:42] <linux2> would anyone here reccomend ubuntu over mandriva?
[06:42] <linux2> cause i like mandriva for ease of use
[06:42] <HymnToLife> pv__> packages.ubuntu.com is _not_ up to date for kde
[06:42] <linux2> but i dont't like mandriva cause its so buggy
[06:42] <symlyn> and I am using Ubuntu
[06:42] <jon_> linux2, Never tried Mandriva...But I haven't run into any bugs with Ubuntu stable.
[06:42] <windoze> ubuntu had the worlds best community imo
[06:42] <symlyn> my gdm crashes when i type first letter of my password?
[06:42] <jbroome> i would reccomend damn near anything over mandriva
[06:42] <pv__> HymnToLife, probably so, if the kubuntu.org site has updates.
[06:42] <windoze> ive tried various distros and ubuntu was the smoothest transition because of all the help
[06:42] <linux2> also mandriva free is very poorly supported
[06:43] <linux2> you have to be a club member for updates
[06:43] <linux2> and so on
[06:43] <raymond8066> i cant get gcc to work please help me
[06:43] <savon> what shall I do when I just had install ubuntu, to get it run as good as posible?
[06:43] <linux2> rysiek|pl, yeah same here
[06:43] <jon_> linux2, Member for updates?  Go for ubuntu then ;)
[06:43] <hari> in the properties of a hd there is a display that I am not the ownwr of the disk and I can not change the permitions.How can I change that?
[06:43] <HymnToLife> pv__> no
[06:43] <pv__> HymnToLife, please elaborate
[06:43] <linux2> yeah ubuntu doesn't need members for updates
[06:43] <johnmournahan> how do I get sudo in gnome ? I can get in terminal but not in the gui
[06:43] <HymnToLife> the updates are on another repo
[06:43] <OperaG> ok well thanks everyone - I'll think this over a bit and will surely give Ubuntu a try
[06:43] <rysiek|pl> yeah... we offer free membership upon buying
[06:43] <linux2> im on the live cd now
[06:43] <linux2> and im really liking it
[06:43] <Rambo3> windoze it mostly depends how large the comunity is + number of programs in ubuntu repos
[06:43] <rysiek|pl> ooops... what "buying"? :)
[06:43] <linux2> great distro
[06:44] <linux2> best so far
[06:44] <jon_> savon, Run as good as possible as in less RAM usage?  Try not using Gnome.  As in Faster Vid?  Update your vid drivers...
[06:44] <HymnToLife> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[06:44] <linux2> that i have ever tried
[06:44] <jbroome> rysiek|pl: 10.0 was ok, 10.1 crapped hard on us in production.  we ran away from it
[06:44] <pv__> yes, that is the kubuntu.org update site
[06:44] <HymnToLife> yes
[06:44] <qpalzm> i just found the best help and howto guide for ubuntu
[06:44] <raymond8066> i really need help can someone help me with installing gcc
[06:44] <HymnToLife> it's _noy_ in packages.ubuntu.com
[06:44] <HymnToLife> not*
[06:44] <Jemt> Greetings. I'm looking for a tool similar to Visio for Windows. Any suggestions?
[06:44] <windoze> anyone here use UBUNTU with a MyTheatre or some other hometheatre app
[06:44] <rysiek|pl> jbroome: Talking Mandrake? Yep, same here. Got 10.2 after 10.0 and thought "wtf?!"
[06:44] <johndarkhorse> raymond8066: install "build-essential"
[06:44] <OperaG> Have a great day and talk to you later!
[06:44] <hari> in the properties of a hd there is a display that I am not the ownwr of the disk and I can not change the permitions.How can I change that?
[06:44] <rysiek|pl> cu OperaG
[06:44] <symlyn> anyone can help me.. ubuntu GDM crashes when  I enter first letter of password
[06:44] <savon> Thanks, but it wedia to work!asnt that I mean, I mean to get settings and m
[06:44] <jon_> Jemt, Not meaing to patronize you, but have you tried google?
[06:44] <savon> dho!
[06:45] <Jemt> Visio is a tool for creating diagrams - ie UML used for "drawing" programs :)
[06:45] <johnmournahan> qpalzm; where
[06:45] <qpalzm> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#convertrpmtodebfiles
[06:45] <raymond8066> i get a error
[06:45] <jon_> meaning*
[06:45] <qpalzm> an*
[06:45] <funkyHat> !ubuntuguide
[06:45] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[06:45] <raymond8066> install: too few arguments
[06:45] <sardopsycho> jon_ - worked like a charm...thanks bro
[06:45] <funkyHat> qpalzm, ^
[06:45] <rysiek|pl> Jemt: looking for something Visio-like?
[06:45] <jon_> sardopsycho, Good to hear, np.
[06:45] <johnmournahan> qpalzm; do you know how to sudo in gnome
[06:45] <savon> Thanks, but it wasnt that i ment I mean to get settings and media to work!
[06:45] <iG-Shoot-Me> Ah
[06:45] <Jemt> rysiek|pl: Yep :)
[06:45] <rysiek|pl> Jemt: one suggestion: Dia
[06:46] <iG-Shoot-Me> Ok I was installing ubuntu and I got to the partition part
[06:46] <Jemt> rysiek|pl: Great, thanks :)
[06:46] <raymond8066> i dont know how to do this, but i cant get gcc to work
[06:46] <iG-Shoot-Me> I hit manually
[06:46] <rysiek|pl> Jemt: no prob :)
[06:46] <iG-Shoot-Me> And It had like 4 things
[06:46] <devon> how do I locate a file with the extension .ppd
[06:46] <qpalzm> johnmournahan, lol i just got ubuntu yesterday, what is sudo, i keep seeing it but i dont know what it is?
[06:46] <iG-Shoot-Me> #1 #2 #3 #4
[06:46] <iG-Shoot-Me> How do I know which partition each one is?
[06:46] <qpalzm> johnmournahan, is it part of the package management?
[06:46] <johnmournahan> it is the equlivant to root
[06:46] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> sudo fdisk -l
[06:46] <johnmournahan> i think
[06:46] <johnmournahan> ubunt is 24hr old rom me to
[06:47] <HymnToLife> !tell qpalzm about sudo
[06:47] <johnmournahan> but i used fedora and suse
[06:47] <raymond8066> i need gcc can someone help me get it to work
[06:47] <savon> !media
[06:47] <ubotu> savon: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:47] <qpalzm> yeah, i just got rid of fedora
[06:47] <savon> !multimedia
[06:47] <ubotu> hmm... multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[06:47] <linux2> just wondering. but should i get kubuntu or just ubuntu?
[06:47] <johnmournahan> it seamed bugie to me
[06:47] <johnmournahan> and slow
[06:47] <jon_> linux2, Do you prefer Gnome or KDE?
[06:47] <HymnToLife> linux2 > both :)
[06:47] <johnmournahan> so far i like ubuntu
[06:47] <jon_> linux2, if you change your mind, you can get them both by adding repos ;)
[06:47] <iG-Shoot-Me> ?
[06:48] <johnmournahan> rated #1 in the UK
[06:48] <johnmournahan> for open source
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> I cant
[06:48] <devon> anyone know how I can locate a file with the extension .ppd from command line?
[06:48] <linux2> jon_, i prefer kde
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont knwo which partition
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> I havel ike 4
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> #1 #2 #3 #4
[06:48] <HymnToLife> that's nonsense anyway
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> All under slave
[06:48] <jon_> linux2, Then go for kubuntu
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> During installation
[06:48] <HymnToLife> UBuntu and Kubuntu are the _same_ thing
[06:48] <linux2> jon_, i already started downloading the ubuntu dvd
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> ntfs 1
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> ntfs 1
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> ntfs 2
[06:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> etc
[06:48] <jon_> linux2, Well that's fine too, you can add repos to make it into kbuntu
[06:48] <Gokz> hey guys i got a few questions about setting up a server in ubuntu, is anyone here knowladgable in that feild. Thanks
[06:49] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> I told you the command to get the partitions list... sudo fdisk -l
[06:49] <johndarkhorse> iG-Shoot-Me: they put the comma key on the keyboard for a reason. please don't puntuate with the "enter" key
[06:49] <iG-Shoot-Me> Sorry
[06:49] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife: This is during installation
[06:49] <iG-Shoot-Me> of ubuntu
[06:49] <devon> Help
[06:49] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> ?
[06:49] <iG-Shoot-Me> Nowhere to type that
[06:49] <Gokz> devon - > what do you need help with?
[06:49] <HymnToLife> in a terminal
[06:50] <linux2> jon_, aren't ubuntu and kubuntu the same. just kubuntu comes with kde and ubuntu does not
[06:50] <HymnToLife> !terminal
[06:50] <yezariael> hey there, anyone got experience installing softmac ond ppc? i want to bring up my airport extreme card but get a build error when trying to "make" softmac
[06:50] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont have a terminal!!
[06:50] <curley_sue> ANYONE any ideas on why 'gnome-screenshot --window' crashes?
[06:50] <iG-Shoot-Me> Im still installing LinuX
[06:50] <jon_> linux2, yep.
[06:50] <devon> how to I locate a file with the extension of .ppd
[06:50] <HymnToLife> !tell iG-Shoot-Me about terminal
[06:50] <linux2> why don't you just have ubuntu with kde and gnome ?
[06:50] <jon_> linux2, Ubuntu comes with Gnome is it's stead ;)
[06:50] <HappyFool> linux2: too much for 1 cd
[06:50] <HymnToLife> linux2 because that would take 2 CDs
[06:50] <jon_> brb
[06:50] <HymnToLife> and Ubuntu is meant to be single CD
[06:51] <iG-Shoot-Me> ...  You have no idea what im talking about
[06:51] <chell> hello
[06:51] <yezariael> hey, any NON-N00Bs here?
[06:51] <HymnToLife> what exactly do you want to do ?
[06:51] <HappyFool> i believe both kubuntu and ubuntu come on the dvd, fwiw (the whole of main?)
[06:51] <johnmournahan> how to get sudo gnome
[06:51] <symlyn> hello
[06:51] <iG-Shoot-Me> I just got the ubuntu disc
[06:51] <Jemt> rysiek|pl: Yeah! Dia was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much :)
[06:51] <raymond8066> i have a problem installing gcc can someone help
[06:51] <HymnToLife> HappyFool> nope
[06:51] <symlyn> SOS
[06:51] <iG-Shoot-Me> I have 4 partitions on the hard drive
[06:51] <HymnToLife> the DVDs ar live and install on the same disc
[06:51] <Uzzi> scim/skin works in qt app(as kate) and gtk app(as synaptic)but it doesn't work with Oo!
[06:51] <iG-Shoot-Me> I need to select which partition to install it on
[06:52] <rysiek|pl> Jemt: my pleasure :)
[06:52] <HymnToLife> that's all ?
[06:52] <devon> Gokz, i want to find a filname with an extension of .ppd
[06:52] <HymnToLife> well
[06:52] <rysiek|pl> raymond8066: what's the problem?
[06:52] <HymnToLife> just move the cursor on the partition you want to install to
[06:52] <symlyn> can anyone help me fix my ubuntu???????????????????
[06:52] <yezariael> dude impossible... no one here who made experience with softmac...?!?
[06:52] <HymnToLife> and set the mount point to /
[06:52] <raymond8066> install: too few arguments
[06:52] <iG-Shoot-Me> Thats the thing..  I dont know which one is the one thats empty.
[06:52] <raymond8066> this
[06:52] <symlyn> ?????
[06:53] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> hmm
[06:53] <HymnToLife> you could boot from whatever OS you are running
[06:53] <HymnToLife> and see it from there
[06:53] <linux2> where can i get the kubuntu dvd?
[06:53] <symlyn> why does my gdm crashes when I type first letter of my assword???
[06:53] <linux2> i keep getting bad links
[06:53] <raymond8066> i type install build-essential and i get a error
[06:53] <symlyn> why does my gdm crashes when I type first letter of my assword???
[06:53] <raymond8066> someone please help
[06:53] <HappyFool> raymond8066: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'   -- if that doesn't work, you need to setup your repositories
[06:53] <iG-Shoot-Me> .........
[06:54] <symlyn> why does my gdm crashes when I type first letter of my assword???
[06:54] <funkyHat> symlyn, did you set a password?
[06:54] <funkyHat> symlyn, please stop asking the same question...
[06:54] <symlyn> yes.. i have..
[06:54] <HappyFool> that would be a `password' *beavis snigger*
[06:54] <linux2> thats weird how the kubuntu and ubuntu dvds are the same size
[06:55] <linux2> are they the same disk?
[06:55] <symlyn> i edited /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to login automatically
[06:55] <ubuntuking> hello all
[06:55] <funkyHat> symlyn, that's why then ;)
[06:55] <Shed> Ubuntu and Kubuntu are only different in whether they use Gnome or KDE, linux2.
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Why doesn't xsane have an option to save scans as pdf?
[06:55] <HymnToLife> of course not linux2
[06:55] <symlyn> but if i don;t bypass the problem still persists..
[06:55] <iG-Shoot-Me> Id still love some help here..
[06:55] <HymnToLife> it they were the same disk, thy would install the same thing :p
[06:55] <hari> in the properties of a hd there is a display that I am not the ownwr of the disk and I can not change the permitions.How can I change that?
[06:56] <raymond8066> "make[2] : *** [/home/raymond/ipw2200/ipw2200.o]  Error 1
[06:56] <raymond8066> " can someone help with this or not?
[06:56] <symlyn> >> funkyHat... i am encountering other problem once I am insude
[06:56] <GutterPunk> Hi, how should I install kde on ubuntu?
[06:56] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> what's the problem ow
[06:56] <GutterPunk> Should I just do: "sudo apt-get install kde"?
[06:56] <HymnToLife> now*
[06:56] <symlyn> Nautilus.. firefox... application installer...
[06:56] <symlyn> all crashes..
[06:56] <funkyHat> symlyn, doing this should fix it: run sudo dpkg reconfigure gdm, and then use the GUI in system > administration > login screen setup and set up automatic login there instead
[06:56] <symlyn> even fireform
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> GutterPunk: Depends on your goal.
[06:56] <funkyHat> hmm
[06:56] <GutterPunk> tonyyarusso, what are my options?
[06:56] <windoze> i wanna try ubuntu again
[06:56] <hari> in the properties of a hd there is a display that I am not the ownwr of the disk and I can not change the permitions.How can I change that?
[06:57] <GutterPunk> tonyyarusso, I'd like to have a minimal kde, so I can install packages on the go
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> GutterPunk: Do you want to add just the minimum of KDE, KDE and a bit of apps, or switch entirely to Kubuntu?
[06:57] <looksaus> anyone knows if dapper will contain support for intel macs?
[06:57] <matt_> my widnowspartitions are all mounted under /media, but i have only access to them as root. how do i change that?
[06:57] <iG-Shoot-Me> Same problem.. Not being helped..
[06:57] <ubuntuking> does the intel pro wireless 3945 work in dapper
[06:57] <GutterPunk> tonyyarusso, only the minimum of kde
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> GutterPunk: Minimal is sudo apt-get install kdebase I believe, maybe kde-base.
[06:57] <ubuntuking> ???
[06:57] <HymnToLife> hari> is that a windows drive you mounted ?
[06:57] <hari> yes
[06:57] <looksaus> I see Matthew Garrett working on intel mac support in Debian like a madman
[06:57] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> for the third time$
[06:58] <HymnToLife> WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM ?
[06:58] <funkyHat> GutterPunk, install something like k3b then and then remove it if you don't want it... or installing kde-base might work
[06:58] <iG-Shoot-Me> http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/install/
[06:58] <IdleOne> HymnToLife,  caps off and dont be rude please :)
[06:58] <linux2> why won't ubuntu play mp3's?
[06:58] <iG-Shoot-Me> I got to there
[06:58] <iG-Shoot-Me> Where you scroll down to partition discs
[06:58] <iG-Shoot-Me> I clicked on manually edit partition table
[06:58] <HymnToLife> gdamn, I don't like repeating the same thing over and over again
[06:58] <HappyFool> linux2: it will once you install the right codecs (not present by default for legal reasons)
[06:58] <rysiek|pl> ubotu tell linux2 about restricted formats
[06:58] <iG-Shoot-Me> I have 4 things there
[06:58] <Canard> How do you close all programs that are currently using a certain port.
[06:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont know which partition is the one I emptied
[06:59] <HymnToLife> and you ant to know which one is the empty one, got it
[06:59] <cppnewbie> lol iG-Shoot-ME
[06:59] <cppnewbie> it has to be obvious
[06:59] <johnmournahan> how to get usdo in gnome
[06:59] <HymnToLife> and I told you to boot on whatever OS you are currently using to find out
[06:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> Yep
[06:59] <IdleOne> HymnToLife,  you tried if someone doesnt want to listen or hear you . you cant force them so move on to the next person :)
[06:59] <hari> HymnToLife : it is a fat32 externaldrive with data, no OS
[06:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> I know which one it is on windows
[06:59] <raymond8066> how do i chang a file when i cant have acces to it
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> johnmournahan: usdo or sudo?  Graphical sudo is managed by gksudo.
[06:59] <rysiek|pl> linux2: mp3 is a RestrictedFormat, go to the webpage Ubotu told you about
[06:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> But it doesnt have its name
[06:59] <ubuntuking> does the intel pro wireless 3945 work in dapper daily
[06:59] <linux2> ok thanks
[06:59] <HymnToLife> hmm
[06:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> It just says #1, #2, #3, #4 on the installer
[07:00] <HymnToLife> the Windows disk manager cas tell you this I think
[07:00] <cppnewbie> doesnt it say sda1 hda1 or something like that somewhere? :S
[07:00] <iG-Shoot-Me> And little smiley faces..
[07:00] <johnmournahan> tonyyarusso; sudo typo
[07:00] <symlyn> funkyHat .. but will my other software run??
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> ubuntuking: Dapper questions should be asked in #ubuntu+1, so you'll be more likely to find an answer there.
[07:00] <Canard> How would you stop all aplications that are currently using a port?
[07:00] <savon> 2.4. 	
[07:00] <savon> How do I add backports?
[07:00] <savon> 
[07:00] <savon> Backports are newer versions of applications made available for the current stable release of Ubuntu.
[07:00] <savon>    1.
[07:00] <savon>       Start Synaptic by selecting System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager from the desktop menu system.
[07:00] <ubuntuking> tonyyarusso, thanks for the tip
[07:00] <iG-Shoot-Me> So how do i?
[07:00] <savon>    2.
[07:01] <savon>       In Synaptic choose Settings-> Repositories.
[07:01] <savon>    3.
[07:01] <savon>       Click on Add and then Custom.
[07:01] <savon>    4.
[07:01] <HappyFool> nooooooo
[07:01] <savon>       Paste the following line into the box:
[07:01] <johnmournahan> tonyyarusso: so how do get it functioning? Linux Green
[07:01] <HappyFool> paster!
[07:01] <savon> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[07:01] <GutterPunk> errm
[07:01] <funkyHat> symlyn, I don't know, looking at what you said after that, it doesn't look like the same issue at all... but it's at least something to try... have you played with any other settings like GTK or X or something?
[07:01] <savon>    5.
[07:01] <HymnToLife> !tell savon about pastebin
[07:01] <savon>       Click Ok and then click Yes when it asks you to reload. Backports is now available.
[07:01] <gogo_> When i try to install ubunto on my lap top it STOPS at "booting the kernel" what am i doing wrong?
[07:01] <savon> this dosnt work!
[07:01] <symlyn> you only suggest to login automatically... whichi already have
[07:01] <savon> that make my computer fuced!k
[07:01] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> in windows, right click on My Computer > Mangage  disk Manager
[07:02] <HymnToLife> it will show you your partitions in the order they are on the drive
[07:02] <rysiek|pl> whoa, when *did* this channel change to #windows-helpers? :] 
[07:02] <IdleOne> !tell savon about repos
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> johnmournahan: Is it for something specific?  It should generally by default.  'gksudo appname' will run stuff from a terminal window.
[07:02] <vasser> hello
[07:02] <windoze> anyoen know a good media based distro... for htpc
[07:02] <linux2> does ubuntu have a good update system. lets say you installed 5.10 of ubuntu and then wanted to upgrade once the next release was out. can it do that without any problems? most distros get messed up when you try to do that
[07:02] <hari> in the properties of a hd there is a display that I am not the ownwr of the disk and I can not change the permitions.How can I change that?
[07:02] <symlyn> funkyHat, I tried to install some unicode based devanagiri fonts
[07:02] <jon_> linux2, Yes.
[07:02] <vasser> i am unable to have direct rending under x
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> linux2: Absolutely.
[07:02] <Canard> Never mind, I asked for help to soon. My apoligies.
[07:02] <johndarkhorse> linux2: you will have no problems
[07:02] <vasser> i have installed nvidia-settings and all, doesn't help
[07:02] <linux2> jon_, sounds much better than any other distros i have ever used
[07:02] <symlyn> after the restart.. i got this problem!!
[07:02] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9760  plz loock
[07:03] <Uzzi> I have a big problem with scim and skim!If someone use its,please help me!
[07:03] <jon_> linux2, Linux has improved since last time I used it (Fedora Core 3) ;)
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> linux2: And it's getting better.  5.10 to 6.04 will still involve editing some lines briefly I believe, but after that I'm told it will be super easy.
[07:03] <funkyHat> symlyn, ah... well that could explain it... if it happens when you are typing something or some content is loading... I don't know how you'd recover from that... although it must be possible...
[07:03] <johnmournahan> tonyyarusso: Im trying to extract codec to /usr/local/lib/codec/
[07:03] <hari> in the properties of a hd there is a display that I am not the ownwr of the disk and I can not change the permitions.How can I change that?
[07:03] <johnmournahan> tonyyarusso: and keep getting told I need permisation
[07:03] <johndarkhorse> johnmournahan: just use the deb
[07:04] <johnmournahan> its for m-player
[07:04] <iG-Shoot-Me> Ok thanks I'll try it
[07:04] <iG-Shoot-Me> Be back later :)
[07:04] <vasser> anyone ?
[07:04] <hari> Hi .What shall I do to play mp3
[07:04] <symlyn> funkyHat, thanks.. i would hunt for that... I don't know how I would mend my machine.. I am still newbie with Linux :(
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> johnmournahan: So you need root privileges in the archive manager, correct?  Using a deb and 'sudo dpkg -i' would be preferable, but it could be done...
[07:04] <funkyHat> !tell hari about mp3
[07:04] <jon_> !mp3
[07:04] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:05] <jon_> ^^ hari
[07:05] <s|k> hi
[07:05] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: the w32codecs deb makes it easier
[07:05] <johnmournahan> tonyyarusso: thats what i need
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse: Yes, it certainly does.
[07:06] <johnmournahan> tonyyarusso: I not good at easy
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> !tell johnmournahan about w32codecs
[07:06] <savon> !repos
[07:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any way to install google arth to ubuntu?
[07:06] <linux2> does anyone have a good place where i can download the kubuntu dvd?
[07:06] <johnmournahan> tonyyarusso: thanks guys
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> i think it's a java based program, but it's only for mac and win
[07:06] <linux2> i get bad links from the kubuntu website
[07:06] <HymnToLife> w32codecs is on the PLF repo
[07:06] <jon_> linux2, There's thousands of mirrors? (well not 1000's ...) you can't find one?
[07:07] <HymnToLife> here :http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/i386/non-free/w32codecs/
[07:07] <jon_> that works?
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> MetaMorfoziS: You might be able to do it with wine or some other emulator (I haven't tried).
[07:07] <HymnToLife> linux2 > trying to install KDE 3.5.1 ?
[07:08] <IdleOne> whats with all the public away msg'es thought that was a no no
[07:08] <jon_> linux2, Is trying to get a good mirror for KDE
[07:08] <Snake__> MetaMorfoziS: Try out wine, tell me how it runs :)
[07:08] <johnmournahan> tonyyarusso: Thanks alot that is just what I needed
[07:08] <cppnewbie> can anyone help me with setting up emulation with libs ia32-libs ia32-libs-dev on a 64 bit system?
[07:08] <jon_> HymnToLife, he's trying to get a good mirror for kubuntu
[07:08] <funkyHat> !w32codecs
[07:08] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:08] <funkyHat> linux2, ^
[07:08] <MetaMorfoziS> Snake__: oky, i foun some howto-s
[07:08] <HymnToLife> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main definitely works
[07:09] <HymnToLife> I updated from it some minutes ago
[07:09] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm can't understand why only mac and win version is in...
[07:09] <jon_> HymnToLife, He wants the ISO
[07:09] <Gokz> hey guys i got a question, how to i get the command RPM, i am trying to install java but it terminal cannot use the RPM command
[07:09] <HymnToLife> oh
[07:09] <dennis_> #phlak
[07:09] <Gokz> is there another way to isntall java?
[07:09] <linux2> jon_, yeah i stil can't find one
[07:09] <HappyFool> !javadebs
[07:09] <IdleOne> tell Gokz  about java
[07:09] <HymnToLife> linux2 > d'you have ubuntu installed ?
[07:09] <savon> that dosnt help me!
[07:09] <HappyFool> hrm
[07:09] <HappyFool> !tell Gokz about javadebs
[07:10] <linux2> HymnToLife, no. im just on the live cd at the moment
[07:10] <HymnToLife> well
[07:10] <HymnToLife> that mirror seems to work : ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/ftp.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/5.10/
[07:10] <IdleOne> savon,  I remember a few days ago telling you about the repos if you dont follow the instructions you wont be able to enable them
[07:10] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9761
[07:10] <gogo_> IHow do i install ubunto on my lap top?
[07:10] <IdleOne> savon,  are you french?
[07:11] <HappyFool> heh. i wonder how seveas' java debs are any less official than the others
[07:11] <HymnToLife> seems he's Swedish
[07:11] <savon> yes, and It worked, but I re installd it today, nd now it dosnt woork at all!
[07:11] <savon> no swedish!
[07:11] <windoze> kk
[07:11] <HymnToLife> savon > can you paste your sources.list on pastebin please ?
[07:12] <IdleOne> savon,  the repos wiki is the best and easiest way for you to enable read carefully and do what it says
[07:12] <savon> how can I found it?
[07:12] <HymnToLife> savon : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:12] <gogo_> Can anyone give me instructions on how to install UBUNTO on my philips laptop
[07:12] <HappyFool> !install
[07:12] <IdleOne> gogo_,  pop in the cd and reboot
[07:12] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[07:12] <HymnToLife> Ubunto ?
[07:13] <HymnToLife> wtf is that ?
[07:13] <HappyFool> like ubuntu, but rounder
[07:13] <gogo_> It stops at BOOTING THE KERNEL
[07:13] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9763
[07:13] <mark__> hi
[07:13] <GameOver69> hey guys for some reason all private messages dont show up in tabs anymore they show inside the main chat window
[07:13] <balor> How can I unset my proxy server for apt?
[07:13] <ompaul> gogo_,  Have a look here wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions or wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulsKludge
[07:14] <raymond8066> i get a error when i make somthing, can i get help
[07:14] <mark__> sayyyyyyyyyyyy whhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
[07:14] <gogo_> Thanx ompaul
[07:14] <ompaul> gogo_, I hope it helps
[07:14] <IdleOne> !tell raymond8066  about wireless
[07:15] <IdleOne> !tell raymond8066  about build-essential
[07:15] <raymond8066> I HAVE GCC
[07:15] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  so why you yelling at me?
[07:15] <raymond8066> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[07:15] <raymond8066> i get this error
[07:15] <ompaul> raymond8066, caps lock mark you for special* attention, so do you have build-essential?
[07:15] <CarinArr> raymond8066, well that means there isn't a rule in your makefile for the word "install"
[07:16] <matt_> i have a problem with scons. :( i have a SConstuct file("Program('test.cpp')") and a hello world program in test.cpp. when i typ scons it tells me "sh: - : invalid option
[07:16] <matt_> " i think that error might come from g++ though. :(
[07:16] <ompaul> CarinArr, ./configure :-)
[07:16] <raymond8066> i dont understand
[07:16] <CarinArr> just pointing out the obvious:
[07:16] <CarinArr> :) even
[07:16] <IdleOne> ompaul,  he is trying to configure wireless networking
[07:16] <raymond8066> i have build-install
[07:16] <CarinArr> raymond8066, have you read the installation instruction for whatever it is you're trying to compile
[07:17] <ompaul> raymond8066, I asked you a question, did you >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< in a terminal?
[07:17] <xrusto> hello everybody. Can you help me with ubuntu ? I got a problem with bringing up my eth0 adapter
[07:17] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9763
[07:17] <raymond8066> yesa
[07:17] <rysiek|pl> xrusto: what's the problem?
[07:17] <ompaul> raymond8066, to whom are you speaking?
[07:17] <raymond8066> you and the other guy
[07:17] <iG-Shoot-Me> I got ot hte partition thing
[07:17] <iG-Shoot-Me> This is what I see:
[07:17] <raymond8066> yes for both
[07:17] <CarinArr> girl thankyouverymuch;)
[07:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> #1 Primary 15.7 GB :) ntfs /media/hdb1
[07:18] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  you are trying to get wireless network working right?
[07:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> #2 Primary 83.9 GB :) ntfs /media/hdb2
[07:18] <ompaul> raymond8066, well you see you need to address people there are in excess of 500 here and its a little harder to follow
[07:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> #3 Primary 10.5 GB :) ntfs /media/hdb3
[07:18] <raymond8066> im trying to get drivers to work right
[07:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> #4 Primary 21.0 GB :) ntfs /media/hdb4
[07:18] <CarinArr> raymond8066, so you're trying to make the drivers?
[07:18] <raymond8066> i dont know how
[07:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> unusable 29.0 GB :) unusable
[07:19] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  ubotu is going to send you a link . follow it
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> After I select which Partition I use
[07:19] <IdleOne> !tell raymond8066  about wireless
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> I see:
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> Use as: ntfs
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> Mount point: /media/hdb4
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> Bootable flag: off
[07:19] <savon> heres my sourse list, is some thing wrong white it?
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> Size: 21.0 GB
[07:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> What do I do??
[07:19] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> you must specify at least a rot partition
[07:19] <ompaul> iG-Shoot-Me, put it in paste.ubuntu-nl.org not here
[07:19] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9763
[07:19] <raymond8066> im trying to make the drivers
[07:19] <HymnToLife> use as ext3, mount point : /
[07:19] <NCLife> how do i switch from the unconfirmed version of wine to the confirmed
[07:20] <IdleOne> raymond8066,  what drivers? where did you get them and most importantly did you try the wiki page?
[07:20] <HymnToLife> ow that's f***ed up savon
[07:20] <savon> hehe I thinked so!
[07:20] <raymond8066> i dont know what a rule is
[07:20] <HymnToLife> just delete everythingand replace with this : http://membres.lycos.fr/mafiaboy03/sources.list
[07:20] <savon> How can I fixed it?
[07:20] <raymond8066> if i knew it might help me
[07:20] <shiv> what's the game that comes close to Max Payne in Linux?
[07:20] <savon> thank you!
[07:20] <jon_> HymnToLife, Whoa, just say his repos ;) no wonder why it's not working?
[07:20] <ompaul> savon, why on earth are the last two lines there
[07:21] <CarinArr> raymond8066, are you following a tutorial? what are you trying to make, did you download a file that you're trying to make? what?
[07:21] <jon_> saw*
[07:21] <s|k> which is the SUPRR key?
[07:21] <savon> dont know!
[07:21] <Alinux> hello, I have Dappers Flight 4 CD, is there mode to install it without graphical interface? but start installation like previous brezzy version?
[07:21] <raymond8066> i downloaded drivers to make so i can yous my wireless network card
[07:21] <CarinArr> raymond8066, where did you download them from?
[07:21] <ompaul> Alinux, not here, talk in #ubuntu+1
[07:22] <raymond8066> i dont rember, but someplace for ubuntu drivers
[07:22] <xrusto> risiekpl: with lswh I become this: *-network:0 UNCLAIMED
[07:22] <xrusto>        description: Network controller
[07:22] <xrusto>        product: BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[07:22] <xrusto>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[07:22] <xrusto>        physical id: 9
[07:22] <xrusto>        bus info: pci@00:09.0
[07:22] <xrusto>        version: 02
[07:22] <xrusto>        width: 32 bits
[07:22] <ompaul> savon, put a # in front of the top and the last two lines and then run this command "sudo apt-get update"
[07:22] <xrusto>        clock: 33MHz
[07:22] <xrusto>        capabilities: bus_master
[07:22] <xrusto>        resources: iomemory:dfffa000-dfffbfff irq:11
[07:22] <HymnToLife> !tell xrusto about pastebin
[07:22] <iG-Shoot-Me> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9765
[07:23] <iG-Shoot-Me> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9765
[07:23] <ompaul> xrusto, never paste in here ever
[07:23] <CarinArr> raymond8066, you're going to have to give us more than that if you want help i'm afraid.. we're not psychics
[07:23] <xrusto> ompaul : I am sorry.
[07:23] <raymond8066> can you tell me what a rule is please
[07:23] <khafra> What do you do when a samba share on another computer is halfway mounted, and you can neither mount nor unmount it?
[07:23] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> use as ext3, mount point : / , bootable : no matter
[07:23] <raymond8066> thats all i need to know
[07:23] <savon> !rar
[07:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:24] <HymnToLife> and don't forget to format it
[07:24] <rysiek|pl> xrusto: I don't actually know anything about wireless configs, sorry. but try reading: man interfaces (from console)
[07:24] <iG-Shoot-Me> ?? How?
[07:24] <CarinArr> raymond8066, no it's not all you need to know. if you're following the insutrctions correctly and not encountering any errors you should never get that message
[07:24] <HymnToLife> you mus have a "Format ?" line
[07:24] <CarinArr> jaysus.. instructions even;)
[07:24] <HymnToLife> saying "no, keep existing data"
[07:24] <fangorious> i'm having trouble getting gnome-user-share working
[07:24] <HymnToLife> select it and pressenter, it will say "format it"
[07:24] <khafra> CarinArr: That's a pretty good migration of the "c," there.
[07:25] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont know what to do though..
[07:25] <xrusto> ompaul: do you know how to enable lan interface in ubuntu?
[07:25] <CarinArr> lol khafra, yeah pretty impressed myself;)
[07:25] <fangorious> nothing shows up in the nautilus network browser
[07:25] <khafra> Or the "tr," I guess.
[07:25] <tolkan>  trying to compile some drivers for my kernel e1000 to be specific, and i'm getting an error: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-12/scripts/Kbuild.include: No such file or directory
[07:25] <tolkan> Does anyone know anything about this kbuild thing?
[07:25] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> I told you everything you need I guess
[07:25] <HymnToLife> but maybe you should create a sawp space
[07:25] <ompaul> xrusto, wait a moment please I want to say something to someone else
[07:26] <khafra> Anyway, when I try to mount -t smbfs, or to smbclient, it says "error, operation already in progress."  But the connection doesn't show up when I type "mount"
[07:26] <xrusto> ompaul: thank you.
[07:26] <ompaul> savon, look its like this, put a # in front of the top line and the bottom two then run this; >>sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get update<<
[07:27] <HymnToLife> ompaul> I still don't trust his sources.list
[07:27] <HymnToLife> mine is better :D
[07:27] <HymnToLife> did you replae with what I gave you savon ?
[07:28] <ompaul> HymnToLife, fire away but they work if you kill off that crud there is no difference
[07:29] <HymnToLife> ompaul> how about lines 34 and 36 then ?
[07:30] <ompaul> xrusto, click  on system - administration - networking  and if it ithere then enable it
[07:30] <concept10> im reconfiging my xorg, should I enable the kernel framebuffer?  what is this?
[07:30] <ompaul> xrusto, if your using wireless and it ain't there tell us
[07:31] <Volsus> hey gang
[07:31] <IdleOne> hey Volsus
[07:31] <Volsus> i'm an utter nood on *nix, and I have a question about mounting the floppy
[07:31] <IdleOne> Volsus,  shoot someone will answer
[07:31] <HnH> edubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso - single cd needed to install ubuntu? :)
[07:31] <Volsus> alright
[07:31] <IdleOne> HnH,  yes
[07:31] <HymnToLife> yes
[07:32] <HymnToLife> but if I were you I wouldn't install edubuntu
[07:32] <xrusto> eth0 is a wireless.  I see this only in /etc/iftab.
[07:32] <HnH> ghm, where can I see packet list included there?
[07:32] <braniff> when is dapper coming out ?
[07:32] <HnH> and one more question, is ubuntu rpm based?
[07:32] <savon> what shal I do wihte this line? deb http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/ warty universe
[07:32] <IdleOne> HnH, edubuntu.com and .deb based
[07:32] <xrusto> ompaul: with netwrking a cant activate this.
[07:32] <braniff> !dapper
[07:32] <ubotu> dapper is probably the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[07:32] <braniff> ah
[07:32] <raymond8066> im having major problems for installing drivers
[07:33] <HymnToLife> savon> just delete everything in your file
[07:33] <xrusto> I see this interfase only in /etc/iftab
[07:33] <HnH> ok, thank you :)
[07:33] <IdleOne> np
[07:33] <HymnToLife> and replace with the one I gave you
[07:33] <ompaul> xrusto, is it wireless ?
[07:33] <ompaul> !tell xrusto about wireless
[07:33] <savon> yes but, iv has got multivers, univers to work know!
[07:33] <Boom4Doom> http://s9.bitefight.pl/c.php?uid=33858 - how strange picture...
[07:33] <xrusto> yes. it is bradcom wireless
[07:33] <Volsus> I get: Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume when I try to open it up by clicking on it. and I tried to use two different command lines in terminal as suggested on the ubuntu forums when I browsed for the problem, and when I Tried them it said something along the lines of there was no filesystem specified. the lines I used were 'mount /media/floppy0' and 'pmount -d /dev/fd0'
[07:34] <HymnToLife> you will have them too with that oe, no worry
[07:34] <braniff> !tell braniff about wireless
[07:34] <HymnToLife> one*
[07:34] <CarinArr> raymond8066, we're not going to be able to help you when we don't know what you're trying to install. if you're following the correct procedure you should never have to edit the makefile to add targets
[07:34] <Fitzz> are there tutorial somewhere just how to use the linux command lines?
[07:34] <savon> !multimedia
[07:34] <xrusto> ompaul: by installation I was seen this interface.
[07:34] <ubotu> well, multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[07:35] <HymnToLife> ?
[07:35] <yezariael> is there a possibility to install the sources of my kernel?
[07:35] <HymnToLife> one thing at a time savon :)
[07:35] <HymnToLife> now we're fixing your repos
[07:35] <braniff> Fitzz, google "bash tutorial"
[07:35] <dabaR> I installed apache and libapache-mod-php4 on Ubuntu. I restarted apache. PHP files get downloaded, not processed. Advice?
[07:35] <yezariael> i run on 2.6.15-17 and don't where to put the sources. can i get them with apt-get ?
[07:35] <IdleOne> !xfce
[07:35] <ubotu> it has been said that xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[07:35] <gundu> hi
[07:35] <HymnToLife> yezariael> yes, the package name is linux-source<kernel_version>
[07:36] <yezariael> hymntolife ill give it a try
[07:36] <yezariael> thx
[07:36] <Fitzz> ok braniff
[07:36] <savon> whats the kaycomand to get to the Termina?
[07:36] <HymnToLife> ?
[07:37] <ompaul> !tell xrusto about ndiswrapper
[07:37] <HymnToLife> if you type a command, you're already in the terminal I guss :)
[07:37] <IdleOne> savon,  applications > accessories > terminal
[07:37] <jag_> hi all
[07:37] <xrusto> no I use  a drake release. 6.0.4.
[07:38] <johndarkhorse> xrusto: join #ubuntu+1 to discuss 6.04
[07:38] <IdleOne> xrusto,  #ubuntu+1 for Dapper help :)
[07:38] <ompaul> xrusto, go to #ubuntu+1 to discuss that yo uare in the wrong channel
[07:38] <xrusto> ompaul: thank you
[07:38] <jag_> anyone here moved from RH/Fedora to Ubuntu?
[07:38] <s|k> I installed scim and nothing would start anymore
[07:38] <s|k> :|
[07:38] <HymnToLife> I used FC a little while yeah
[07:39] <braniff> jag_: i did
[07:39] <s|k> had to uninstall it
[07:39] <mavric2001> damn rpm distros suck
[07:39] <IdleOne> s|k,  remove scim
[07:39] <HymnToLife> but I didn't go very far into it
[07:39] <s|k> IdleOne, I want Japanese
[07:39] <jon_> jag_ I had Fedora Core 3 at one point in time ;) I killed it.
[07:39] <savon> is anything wrong white my repos?
[07:39] <Volsus> Can anyone help me with this problem with mounting the floppy?
[07:39] <HymnToLife> of course it is !
[07:39] <HymnToLife> why won't you use the file I gave you ?
[07:39] <HymnToLife> it works perfectly
[07:39] <ompaul> savon, you have been told several times, if you will not pay attention I have to consider that you are a troll
[07:40] <mavric2001> tried out mandriva 06 very nice looking, but dependency hell just like any rpm
[07:40] <jag_> I've always been a RH person and am wondering what all the fuss about Ubuntu is? (I'm asking before a do a restore after buggering my FC4 doing yum updates)
[07:40] <adam_> Does anyone have a clue why my ppp0 interface isn't coming up (isn't shown by ifconfig) when I try to dialup using wvdial?
[07:40] <ompaul> savon, what gave the game away was hitting the multimedia
[07:40] <mavric2001> jag, dependencies, as in none on debian based distros, or almost none
[07:40] <braniff> jag_: i switched because there are so many more packages for debian-based distros
[07:41] <savon> ok, im sorry,
[07:41] <drLOOSE> Im having troubles with wireless connection to pc shares with Samba... :(
[07:41] <mavric2001> debian based distros are fundamentally more stable than rpm distros
[07:41] <jag_> I'm ver ignorant...didn't realise Ubuntu was debian based...I think I tried Woody once?
[07:42] <mavric2001> sarge is easier to install now
[07:42] <ompaul> jag_, I don't know if you did :)
[07:42] <mavric2001> ubuntu is a breeze to install
[07:42] <HymnToLife> but Woody's installer is more powerful for non-conventional hardware
[07:42] <IdleOne> mavric2001,  breezy was a good name for it :)
[07:42] <HymnToLife> like, sarge won't detect my SATA drive but Woody does
[07:42] <tolkan>  trying to compile some drivers for my kernel e1000 to be specific, and i'm getting an error: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-12/scripts/Kbuild.include: No such file or directory
[07:42] <f_> how can I use bluetooth GPS device? FAQ anywhere?
[07:42] <MisterN> hi
[07:42] <f_> hi!
[07:42] <mavric2001> use etch in debian for advanced hardware detection
[07:43] <IdleOne> !bluetooth
[07:43] <ubotu> it has been said that bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[07:43] <Volsus> how do I employ the hidden default easter egg to get the pamela anderson theme enabled?
[07:43] <jag_> is Ubuntu good for supporting wintv cards? Nova-t, pvr etc. ?
[07:43] <tolkan> !e1000
[07:43] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, tolkan
[07:43] <HymnToLife> wtf ?
[07:43] <mavric2001> jag, i have a wintv card installed in ubuntu now, using the tvtime package
[07:44] <tolkan> !said e1000
[07:44] <ubotu> tolkan: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:44] <jag_> mavric2001: what wintv card is it?
[07:44] <HymnToLife> Pamela Anderson is ugly anyway
[07:44] <mavric2001> jag wintv go
[07:44] <drLOOSE> Does anyone have a connection to a Windows share anyway..?
[07:44] <jag_> are you happy with it?
[07:44] <drLOOSE> Need my mp3s.. :/
[07:44] <mavric2001> soon ill be getting a wintv150 pvr to use with mythtv
[07:44] <braniff> jag_: capture cards generally use the bttv or ivtv packages which are available for ubuntu
[07:44] <jag_> cheers
[07:45] <Volsus> I know HymnToLife, just trying to get noticed with my genuine problem ;<
[07:45] <f_> what is etch anyway?
[07:45] <chell> I've sucessfully installed ubuntu. I would like to set up another user account. Problem is: I want this user account not to  be able to use sudo to perform things with root priviliges entering his/her password. How can I accoumplish that
[07:45] <R3linquish3r> lol
[07:45] <HymnToLife> Volsus> which is ?
[07:45] <Volsus> having a problem mounting the floppy
[07:45] <IdleOne> Volsus,  lots of people have genuine problems ..perhaps noone knows the answer
[07:45] <HymnToLife> chell> add the user to the admin group
[07:45] <mavric2001> tvtime works great with hauppauge cards
[07:45] <chell> then he/she won't be able to do any root stuff?
[07:45] <Volsus> that's not the kind of vague response i'd expect from an official support chan IdleOne :<
[07:45] <IdleOne> tell Volsus about mount
[07:46] <johndarkhorse> HymnToLife: R3linquish3r: #ubuntu-offtopic please with that
[07:46] <ompaul> IdleOne, ..
[07:46] <johndarkhorse> Volsus: we are not officials here, we are volunteers
[07:46] <ompaul> !attitude
[07:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient.
[07:46] <R3linquish3r> lol
[07:46] <IdleOne> Volsus,  I didnt mean to be rude was just trying to say that maybe noone noticed or maybe they are busy helping others ...I appologise if I was rude
[07:46] <Volsus> shucks howdy.
[07:46] <Volsus> no worries
[07:47] <IdleOne> :)
[07:47] <jag_> mavric2001: how old is your wintv card...I was going to pick up a wintv nova-t or go card on ebay...some of the cards are obviously old?
[07:47] <jag_> what's the difference?
[07:47] <chell> So when I add a user to the admin group he can't use sudo? To me that doesn't really make sense...
[07:47] <ompaul> Volsus, if you give me a couple of minute I will find something on floppies - and if I can't I'll add something to the wiki, does that seem fair?
[07:47] <mavric2001> jag, age isnt important its the chipset. go with hauppauge cards and you should have no problems in linux
[07:48] <Volsus> definitely ompaul, thanks
[07:48] <HymnToLife> chell> not, it's the opposite
[07:48] <braniff> floppies are overrated
[07:48] <jag_> so the GO cards that are going retail are as good as several year old one?
[07:48] <mavric2001> i have been using hauppauge cards on linux for 5 years now
[07:48] <chell> so which group do I have to add them to in order to have them not able to use sudo
[07:48] <HymnToLife> all users in the admin group can run sudo
[07:49] <HymnToLife> and only them by default (and root himself)
[07:49] <braniff> chell: every group except wheel group
[07:49] <mavric2001> yes, but i would spend the extra money and get hardware encoding for future expansion, and or hard drive recording
[07:49] <mavric2001> wintv pvr 150 (hauppauge)
[07:49] <jag_> does the Go card leave the work to the RAM then?
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i kill a frozen wine window?
[07:50] <mavric2001> i have not been able to get software encoding to work on linux
[07:50] <chell> so when I add a user to the admin group he can use sudo, otherwise he can't?
[07:50] <BLO> hi @all, is there an option tu turn off dma/caching/something at ubuntu install ? i'm facing a package copying error at installation (kubuntu-a64), then i tried ubuntu-i386 and had the same problem, mostly even with the same package... copying the cd contents with a filemanager on an installed system works so the cds aren't damaged. i tried to install on ata hd and on sata hd, each holding a...
[07:50] <BLO> ...free 4GB partition for root, 1gb swap and 1 gb home. the partitions were 22% full after the error...
[07:50] <braniff> MetaMorfoziS, "# killall wine"
[07:50] <MetaMorfoziS> no process killed
[07:50] <mavric2001> the card will utilize cpu and memory resources to play tv
[07:50] <HymnToLife> [19:49]  chell so when I add a user to the admin group he can use sudo, otherwise he can't? <= exactly
[07:50] <HymnToLife> that's the simple way
[07:50] <chell> good. thanx a billion mate
[07:51] <HymnToLife> you can also edit the /etc/sudoers file but it's more hassle
[07:51] <mavric2001> jag, go to the tvtime website for hardware requirements
[07:51] <drLOOSE> Im having troubles with wireless connection to a pc share //pc/kata. Samba finds it but can't mount it! Help?
[07:51] <jag_> I have a fairly decent machine
[07:51] <ompaul> Volsus, it appears there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[07:52] <Volsus> thanks ompaul
[07:52] <jag_> I just bought a tv-out card for my linux box...one step at a time towards recording tv
[07:52] <braniff> drLOOSE, what error messages ?
[07:52] <mavric2001> tvtime worked fine on a ibm 1ghz p3 for me. but no recording to hard drive was available
[07:52] <HymnToLife> !floppy
[07:52] <ubotu> Tou mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[07:52] <HymnToLife> woops
[07:52] <ompaul> Volsus, if it does not work let me know
[07:53] <ompaul> HymnToLife, good shot though
[07:53] <Volsus> alright, thanks again
[07:53] <HymnToLife> wel, welllout to dinner now
[07:53] <jag_> what sort of space do I need for full install? Might dual-boot Ubuntu with Fedora and give it a go...
[07:53] <HymnToLife> see ya later
[07:54] <ompaul> HymnToLife, enjoy
[07:54] <cppnewbie> c ya HymnToLife
[07:54] <cppnewbie> :D
[07:54] <mavric2001> jag 10 gigs should be enough, if you dont save much to your hard drive
[07:55] <com4_> When i try to apt-get install mod_python, i get an error
[07:55] <mavric2001> my ubuntu machine is for multimedia primarily
[07:55] <SnoopJeDi> Can you perform an Ubuntu install from the liveCD?
[07:55] <BLO> anyone ever faced a copy error at installation? (console #4 text output says "error 1".....
[07:55] <mavric2001> snoop i dont think so
[07:55] <jag_> cheers all...thanks for the help
[07:55] <com4_> http://pastebin.com/585415
[07:55] <SnoopJeDi> Blast.  Thanks for the answer mavric2001, was wondering if I could have it as a dual-purpose cd ;)
[07:56] <windoze> dapperdrake
[07:56] <windoze> wow
[07:56] <windoze> the names are getting crazy
[07:56] <windoze> dapper... haha
[07:56] <ryanakca> where is your public key and secret key
[07:56] <chell> I've just read the Documentation Style Guide
[07:57] <chell> why: American English. Use standard American English spelling in all Ubuntu English language documents.
[07:57] <chell> ?
[07:57] <mavric2001> because america rulz
[07:57] <ompaul> windoze, please don't use enter for commas or full stops, thanks
[07:57] <chell> Why is one obliged to write in american english?
[07:57] <maxxu> hi
[07:57] <jonolson> chell, I would assume that Americans outnumber UKians ;)
[07:57] <IdleOne> chell>  write in any english form you like you arent obliged
[07:57] <maxxu> hi have a problem with the internet on ubuntu 5.10
[07:58] <chell> all right, I'll stick to British English then (that's the way I learNT it, won't abandon that...)
[07:58] <ompaul> maxxu, please define that more
[07:58] <mavric2001> the uk is a american colony now
[07:58] <IdleOne> maxxu>  system > administration > netwroking and enable you card if it isnt
[07:58] <BLO> hmmm anyone running ubuntu on DFI Lanparty Expert ? Is it the MoBo ?
[07:58] <ryanakca> anywais, canadians spell with british english I think... or do we have canadian english?
[07:59] <maxxu> i am using PPPoE so i can connect to Internet, with an username and password, all the rest like ip, gatewate are provided automatcly. I tried with PPPoEconf, but i can't connect. I also tried with rp-ppoe but i get TIMED OUT and Link is Down (at pppoe-status)
[07:59] <radar___76> what program do I use for a bluetooth interface ?
[07:59] <ompaul> ryanakca, that might colour your judgement :-)
[07:59] <IdleOne> !bluetooth
[07:59] <ubotu> methinks bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[07:59] <maxxu> in networking i have a modem and ether card, i activated the ether but still no connecting. tried with DHCP
[07:59] <chell> Canadians normally spell british but use some american vocabulary. But they do sound like americans (except the say aboot (meaning about) and eh... ;-)
[07:59] <BLO> bye
[07:59] <benoitc> does anyone here test r300 drivers vs apple ati drivers for rv360M11 (powerbook5,6). would like maybe use blender on linuxpppc rather than osx
[07:59] <jonolson> Hahah, i'm an american and I say "aboot" ;)
[08:00] <chell> ;-=O
[08:00] <ompaul> sorry folks that is not help please carry on the entertainment in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:00] <mavric2001> canadians sound nothing like americans
[08:00] <chell> they do...it's a rhotic dialect
[08:00] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-offtopic is a great place to have a conversation about different dialects :)
[08:01] <mavric2001> canadians sound like they just swallowed a lot of cum
[08:01] <IdleOne> mavric2001> ? watch the language
[08:01] <com4_> Everytime i try to apt-get install libapache2-mod-python, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/585415  How can i fix this?
[08:01] <chell> RP is the best dialect ;-)
[08:01] <ryanakca> chell: we say about as in a-b-out... out as in outside
[08:01] <maxxu> can anyone help me with my problem?
[08:01] <jonolson> maxxu, What is your problem?
[08:02] <chell> but pronounce can't like the americans...
[08:02] <martijn> does anyone know how to get a flash player working on my 64-bits ubuntu distro?
[08:02] <radar1976> what is the difference between kubuntu and edubuntu
[08:02] <ryanakca> chell: you guys have too many accents.... canada, its pretty much the same
[08:02] <chell> Well, when I say British English I normally mean RP
[08:02] <IdleOne> chell>  take the convo to #ubuntu-offtopic or ask a ubuntu related question please in here
[08:02] <altongary> Can anyone help me setup wireless networking with usb wifi?
[08:03] <chell> okay... gotta go now anyway see you guys
[08:03] <maxxu> jonolson: i have Ubuntu 5.10 and i can't connect to internet. I connect using PPPoE with an username and password. I tried with pppoeconf, but still no connectiing. also tried with rp-pppoe, but i get timed out(at pppoe-start) and Link is down (at pppoe-status)
[08:03] <ryanakca> chell: we only have 2 or 3 canadian english accents.... different story in french though
[08:03] <ryanakca> chell: kk, see yah :)
[08:03] <chell> cya
[08:03] <ompaul> OKAY bad language aside which gets a kick please take talk to #Ubuntu-Offtopic it is there for that purpose
[08:03] <jonolson> maxxu, I don't use PPPoE nor do I pretend knowledge of it :( sorry.
[08:04] <orkin> when I startup, it says there was a problem with fsck and I have to fix it manually. naturally i just press ctrl+D cuz i don't know how to but would this have anything to do with why linux runs so slow?
[08:04] <ryanakca> where is your public key and secret key saved?
[08:04] <maxxu> ok, it's okay. anyone use PPPoE or can help me with this problem? please
[08:05] <ompaul> orkin, it could be you should go with the recovery
[08:05] <Leo^_^> hi...
[08:05] <ompaul> maxxu, tell me this, are you connected to a router?
[08:06] <ompaul> Leo^_^, hello, ask your question, then we may be able to help
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so I have scans of four separate pages of something (from xsane) saved as jpegs.  What would be the best way to create one pdf document of the four pages?
[08:06] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, don't know about best, but OOo and import the pics and then export it in one go
[08:06] <Leo^_^> so I have a little problem whith ubuntu
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Writer or Draw?
[08:07] <Leo^_^> i install ubuntu, then easy ubuntu
[08:07] <HappyFool> if gimp can print to pdf (cups-pdf?), that's another option
[08:07] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, I would use writer it can import pics
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: 'k.
[08:07] <Leo^_^> When the system was ready to use, I use it ^^
[08:07] <johndarkhorse> Leo^_^: join #easyubuntu if you have questions about that
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> HappyFool: Do you know if it can or how to find out?
[08:07] <Leo^_^> wait
[08:07] <Leo^_^> ubuntu freese
[08:08] <Leo^_^> and at any moment
[08:08] <IdleOne> !enter
[08:08] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:08] <HappyFool> tonyyarusso: install cups-pdf (it's in universe) and see if you can print some arb image to pdf from gimp
[08:08] <Leo^_^> and wrtl alt f1 dont work to kill gmd
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> HappyFool: Thanks.
[08:08] <Leo^_^> my solution was to reboot
[08:08] <orkin> recovery?
[08:08] <matt_> how can i change the accessright for the windows partitions that were automatically mounted into /media/?
[08:08] <Leo^_^> to push the reboot buton...
[08:08] <IdleOne> !tell Leo^_^  about enter
[08:08] <pianoboy3333> When is GNOME 2.14 being released?
[08:08] <birdfish> Two quick questions.  How do I display a list of packages that can be installed with apt-get (through the command line).  And how do I upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu (I have 5.04 currently)
[08:08] <rysiek|pl> cu all
[08:08] <birdfish> :)
[08:09] <Leo^_^> ??
[08:09] <maxxu> can anyone help me with a problem. i cant connect to internet, using PPPoE.
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> pianoboy3333: Don't know about that specifically, but I believe Gnome releases always fall one month before Ubuntu ones.  So, ~two weeks from now?
[08:09] <HappyFool> birdfish: 'apt-cache search' is handy for searching through installable packages
[08:09] <orkin> ompaul: how do i go with recovery?
[08:09] <linux2> ok im installing kubuntu right now
[08:10] <linux2> all appears to be going well
[08:10] <HappyFool> birdfish: listing *all* the packages would be interesting ;) ( > 10k, i think)
[08:10] <Leo^_^> so how I do to make ubuntu unfreesable ??
[08:10] <linux2> is the grub bootloader graphical once install is complete?
[08:10] <birdfish> HappyFool: lol, Thanks dude :D
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> birdfish: With all the repos, more like 17,000.
[08:10] <HappyFool> !tell birdfish about breezy
[08:10] <birdfish> tonyyarusso: Thanks for the memo :D
[08:10] <ompaul> orkin, you reboot the machine, as it is starting in grub you hit escape and then choose recovery then just type >>fsck -y<< and hit enter
[08:10] <Odice> hi+
[08:10] <Odice> i get this erros with xmms + xchat an xlack plugin  Error in command callback Undefined subroutine &IRC::add_timeout called at (eval 3) line 2452.
[08:11] <ompaul> linux2, no, it is customiseable you whould have to search the interweb for that
[08:12] <pianoboy3333> tonyyarusso: ok
[08:12] <Tode_I> Hey folks, I'm trying to run a make on the driver of my wireless mouse, and it ain't working. Can I paste the result of the make here, or... ?
[08:12] <gundu> has anyone running xgl-server ?
[08:12] <johndarkhorse> !tell Tode_I about pastebin
[08:13] <johndarkhorse> gundu: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:13] <ompaul> Odice, what version are you useing
[08:13] <IdleOne> !mice
[08:13] <ubotu> IdleOne: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:13] <Odice> Xmms 1.2.10 , Xchat 2.6.0
[08:13] <HappyFool> maybe it's mouses ;)
[08:14] <ompaul> HappyFool, only on Fridays
[08:14] <IdleOne> mouses is only used in britain in canada we say mice :P
[08:14] <ryanakca> where is your public key and secret key saved?
[08:15] <IdleOne> I keep my keys in my coat pocket
[08:15] <maxxu> can anyone help me with a problem. i cant connect to internet, using PPPoE.
[08:15] <johndarkhorse> ryanakca: ~/.gnupg
[08:15] <ryanakca> IdleOne: PGP keys
[08:15] <IdleOne> ryanakca>  figures you have to ask about something tough
[08:16] <phiber-optic> does anybody know how tu untar a tar.gz file?
[08:16] <ryanakca> johndarkhorse: ty
[08:16] <IdleOne> phiber-optic>  tar zxvf file.tar
[08:16] <johndarkhorse> phiber-optic: the "man" will tell you all. open a terminal and type 'man tar'
[08:16] <phiber-optic> thankx IdleOne
[08:17] <vogel> is there any good Directconnect app to linux, or is it wine I shall run it in?
[08:17] <Odice> Player: ( xmms 1.2.10 ) Volume: ( 100% ) Title: ( BOA - Duvet (Lain Theme) ) Time: ( 0:03/3:23 (1%) ) BitRate: ( 128 kbit/s - 44100 Hz )
[08:17] <maxxu> can anyone help me with a problem. i cant connect to internet, using PPPoE.
[08:17] <Snake|Sims2> vogel: If you find one, do tell me.
[08:17] <Snake|Sims2> Please
[08:17] <johndarkhorse> vogel: there are two direct connect apps in the repos
[08:17] <Snake|Sims2> johndarkhorse: what are they
[08:18] <Snake|Sims2> (for)
[08:18] <vogel> ok, have you tested them?
[08:18] <adam_> I'm having trouble burning a blank cd.
[08:18] <vogel> Whitch is best?
[08:18] <Tode_I> Ok, put it on pastebin... rather small anyways.
[08:18] <maxxu> can anyone help me with a problem. i cant connect to internet, using PPPoE.
[08:18] <Tode_I> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9766
[08:18] <slimz> hey, when i start up my system, it says pcmcia failed, and then my speakers make alot of static? anyone have any suggestions to what i could do?
[08:19] <LoCusF> http://www.bash.org/?126826 <- so true
[08:19] <adam_> when I go to the "write to disc" dialog and click "write" it starts to do it but then cancels and says that it cannot burn at that fast of speed because my computer is too slow -- but when I go back to change it I can't change the speed because it's shaded out, what should I do??
[08:20] <ompaul> adam_, I suggest you get gnomebaker or k3b and use them they will allow you to change the speed iirc
[08:20] <tolkan> can someone help me with compling kernel drivers? i'm getting an error that its looking for Kbuild.include
[08:20] <adam_> ompaul, is gnomebaker easy enough for someone who doesn't know much about computers? (this is for my mother)
[08:21] <Leo_the_same> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[08:21] <Leo_the_same> I have disconnect
[08:21] <adam_> ompaul, I would get k3b because I've used that before, but I'd like to keep everything Gnome so everything is consistent
[08:22] <Ng> adam_: nautilus has a pretty simple cd writer built into it if you just want to make data CDs
[08:22] <adam_> Ng, yes but it's not working --> I'm getting the error "The system is too slow to write the CD at this speed" but I can't change the speed -- the speed box is shaded out
[08:23] <Ng> ah :/
[08:23] <Anders0n> !repositories
[08:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:23] <Anders0n> !java
[08:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:23] <^Useless^> hi
[08:23] <Anders0n> !javadebs
[08:23] <adam_> cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns.
[08:23] <adam_> cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority().
[08:23] <adam_> cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler
[08:23] <adam_> could this be a problem?
[08:24] <adam_> Ohh! I wonder if I have DMA turned off on my cdrom drive(??)
[08:24] <Ng> adam_: worth checking
[08:24] <adam_> "cdrecord: DMA speed too slow (OK for 11x). Cannot write at speed 32x."
[08:24] <adam_> Ng, I could just check with hdparm, correct?
[08:25] <Ng> adam_: yep
[08:26] <adam_> Ng, hdparm /dev/cdrom -d
[08:26] <adam_> ?
[08:26] <Ng> adam_: hdparm -v /dev/whatever
[08:26] <Ng> 32bit IO support is worth checking in the output too
[08:26] <adam_> Ng, ah, it's off :)
[08:26] <adam_> Ng, IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[08:26] <Ng> adam_: then sudo hdparm -d1c1 /dev/whatever   (d1 is DMA, c1 is 32bit IO)
[08:27] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell adam_ about dma
[08:27] <adam_> Ng, will this save so I don't have to do this every time I reboot?
[08:27] <johndarkhorse> adam_: check your priv msgs
[08:27] <DevGet> How to enable reiser4 support in the kernel?
[08:27] <adam_> johndarkhorse, okay, will do
[08:27] <adam_> Ng, johndarkhorse: thank you for your help
[08:29] <maxxu> can anyone help me with a problem. i cant connect to internet, using PPPoE.
[08:29] <Wibble-> maxxu, I can't help with PPPoE, but might I suggest you verify that your internet connection isn't working ;)
[08:30] <KuDeTa> could someone help me setting up ndis wrapper please?
[08:30] <KuDeTa> for amd64bit
[08:30] <KuDeTa> im a complete noob..first time on nix/ubuntu :)
[08:30] <maxxu> Wibble- well its working, cauz im using it now from win :)
[08:30] <maxxu> but on linux doesnt work
[08:30] <^Useless^> KuDeTa: there's an entry for that in the wiki, i think
[08:30] <sca1> KuDeTa: what the rpob?
[08:30] <Wibble-> maxxu, I'll let you off for now then ;)
[08:30] <jon_> !PPPoE
[08:30] <ubotu> pppoe is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[08:30] <KuDeTa> sca1
[08:30] <KuDeTa> just scared :S
[08:30] <R3linquish3r> can someone tell me were i have to extract a GAIM plugin to to compile it?
[08:31] <KuDeTa> looks like a big deal esp for 64bit?
[08:31] <jon_> ubotu, tell maxxu about PPPoE
[08:31] <vogel> whats the lockation to Wines c drive program?
[08:31] <s|k>   sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[08:31] <s|k>    <--- why doesn't it find this in the repository?
[08:31] <proman> hola
[08:31] <R3linquish3r> vogel: home/<name>/.wine
[08:31] <proman> que tal estn?
[08:31] <adam_> Ng, So I should enable the 32-bit IO support on my cdrom drive?
[08:31] <Ng> adam_: it's probably worth it, yeah
[08:31] <maxxu> jon_: i just cant connect to internet. i tried with pppoeconf, but i cant. with rp-pppoe i get timed out at pppoe-start, and link down at pppoe-status
[08:31] <adam_> Ng, won't screw anything up?
[08:32] <Ng> adam_: shouldn't do :)
[08:32] <adam_> Ng, Okay thank you very much :)
[08:32] <maxxu> i tried all thats on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE but still nothing
[08:32] <R3linquish3r> were do i have to extract a GAIM plugin to to compile it?
[08:32] <johndarkhorse> s|k: because of legalities
[08:32] <s|k> oh
[08:33] <s|k> I'm installing it from sun then :/
[08:33] <johndarkhorse> adam_: the wiki page is safe to follow
[08:33] <johndarkhorse> s|k: ours is from sun  /msg ubotu javadeb
[08:33] <Ng> s|k: the RestrictedFormats wiki page has a guide to installing Sun's Java, which is the best solution in my experience
[08:33] <s|k> yeah that's what I"m doing now ng
[08:33] <s|k> :)
[08:33] <jon_> maxxu, Sorry that'd be the extent of what I know :( what the bot knows.
[08:34] <ithiel> jon_ the bot is smarter, but it's ok
[08:34] <jon_> ithiel, The bot is God. ;)
[08:34] <maxxu> ok, thanks anyway "_
[08:34] <ithiel> no, the b0t is ub0tu.
[08:34] <ithiel>  :P
[08:34] <ithiel> (be polite, don't invoke his holy name without reason)
[08:34] <R3linquish3r> lol
[08:34] <jon_> I wouldn't think anyone would take offense to that?  But I shall refrain in any event.
[08:35] <KuDeTa> ok so would someone like to explain to me how i even install the ndiswrapper
[08:35] <R3linquish3r> were do i have to extract a GAIM plugin to to compile it?
[08:35] <KuDeTa> can i use the apt-get thing
[08:35] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell KuDeTa about ndiswrapper
[08:35] <cppnewbie> anyone knows a good iso viewer and extractor?
[08:35] <jon_> !iso
[08:35] <ubotu> [iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[08:35] <jon_> That doesn't help ;)
[08:36] <cppnewbie> well im not looking to burn it
[08:36] <jon_> Yeah, I was seeing if it might.
[08:36] <cppnewbie> ah :D
[08:36] <cppnewbie> any alcohol 120% or daemontools work wined? :S
[08:36] <_daniel_> Hey the dbus-sharp package is not in Breezy badger ?
[08:36] <KuDeTa> thank you
[08:36] <_daniel_> or whats its name ?
[08:36] <KuDeTa> ill have a go and come back (when) if i have problems :)
[08:37] <pierreb> who know hangcheck-timer ?
[08:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[08:37] <munti78> Hi everybody!
[08:37] <jon_> Is it rude to check what the bot says in regular chat?  Assuming I don't know exactly what it might say about a particular topic..?
[08:38] <_daniel_> I keep getting and daniel@home:~$ banshee
[08:38] <_daniel_> Unhandled Exception: DBus.DBusException: Unable to determine the address of the message bus
[08:38] <IdleOne> jon_>  use /msg bot searchterm
[08:38] <jon_> IdleOne, Thanks.
[08:38] <iG-Shoot-Me> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9765
[08:38] <IdleOne> no problem
[08:38] <ScottishPig> I just ordered some CDs off the site for some friends of mine and I... where there be any charge when they arrive?
[08:38] <iG-Shoot-Me> Someone help me with the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9765 thing
[08:38] <johndarkhorse> jon_: it is quite disruptive to !fish !for !factoids in the channel
[08:38] <R3linquish3r> anyone know were i have to extract a GAIM plugin to to compile it?
[08:38] <iG-Shoot-Me> No
[08:38] <pierreb> how i can verify than is actif on system?
[08:38] <iG-Shoot-Me> No charge Pig
[08:38] <EnsignRedshirt> Is there a way to set up a "printer" that actually prints to a file?  Some apps provide this option, but not all do, so it would be nice if I could create a "printer" that always created a file instead.
[08:38] <cppnewbie> so no one knows any good iso extractor or mounter or something? :S
[08:39] <IdleOne> ScottishPig>  there shouldnt be
[08:39] <iG-Shoot-Me> cppnewbie: Nero
[08:39] <cppnewbie> for linux? :S
[08:39] <jon_> IdleOne, Is there a channel where one can look like an idiot without disrupting anything?  Offtopic might work? ;)
[08:39] <munti78> What do I need to do to get java enabled for my webbrowsers (Opera and Firefox)?
[08:39] <iG-Shoot-Me> cppnewbie: Oh, I dont know
[08:39] <iG-Shoot-Me> Someone help me with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9765
[08:39] <cppnewbie> heh :D
[08:39] <FlannelKing> jon_: just message him
[08:39] <IdleOne> jon_>  #debianbots
[08:39] <jon_> IdleOne, ;) k
[08:40] <vogel> how to start a program with wine?
[08:40] <jon_> vogel, change directory to where your program is...then wine programname.exe
[08:40] <R3linquish3r> vogel: wine <program>.exe
[08:41] <tushkee> or right click "open with wine"
[08:41] <jon_> vogel, or on the desktop, right click on it..and hit "wine"
[08:41] <IdleOne> vogel>  cd Desktop ( if thats where you downloaded it ) then wine programname.exe
[08:41] <vogel> Thank you, all!
[08:41] <munti78> Anyone?
[08:41] <psy> hi
[08:42] <psy> good night
[08:42] <tushkee> hey, guys, i cant remeber the command on launching a program  from terminal ....without hangin up the command line until the prog gets closed.
[08:42] <cppnewbie> if there isnt an extractor, how could i mount an iso to a... "virtual drive" and extract its files? :S
[08:42] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell munti78 about javadebs
[08:42] <jon_> tushkee, program &
[08:42] <jon_> tushkee, makes it into a background process.
[08:42] <tushkee> oh yeah, thanks jon!
[08:42] <HappyFool> sudo mount -o loop foo.iso /path/to/mount/point
[08:42] <iG-Shoot-Me> Kinda waiting for help here..
[08:42] <psy> can anyone help me about recording DVD?
[08:42] <xerox> Is it possible to get the sources of the kernel one is using somehow?
[08:43] <rApJtR> help! I delete my /usr/bin/locale ....
[08:43] <xerox> I need them to build a module
[08:43] <xerox> (Namely wacom, which is outdate)
[08:43] <psy> whats programs its recommended for?
[08:43] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me why do you have 4 partitions for Windows?
[08:43] <xerox> My kernel is: 2.6.15-16-386
[08:43] <rApJtR> How can I find an /usr/bin/locale...
[08:43] <Rambo3> why not?
[08:43] <IdleOne> iG-Shoot-Me>  put in the ubuntu cd and when you get to the guided partion you can choose where to install and choose the partion you want
[08:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> psy: Nautilus has built-in burning capability.  I've also heard good things about k3b.
[08:43] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ I just made it that way when I put together my computer
[08:44] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me is there an unused partition?
[08:44] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ yes
[08:44] <HappyFool> xerox: what you probably want is the package called linux-headers-386 (possibly -k7 or something else, but i'd go with -386 -- check uname -r to find out)
[08:44] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me, then select that one ;)
[08:44] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ I did.. scroll down..
[08:44] <xerox> HappyFool: do you know if the package comes configured?
[08:44] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me ah hold on
[08:44] <psy> PuMpErNiCkLe thx !
[08:44] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ it brought me to Partition Settings
[08:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> psy: np :)
[08:44] <HappyFool> xerox: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)' is one way to get it
[08:45] <rApJtR> Help.. How can I get a /usr/bin/locale          I deleted it..
[08:45] <tushkee> help: i got Xubuntu installed. i didnt know it came with a gdm like logon screen. How can I get rid of that and login instead on the console?
[08:45] <HappyFool> xerox: it comes, afaik, with the config file used to build the kernel, if that's what you mean
[08:45] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me ah didn't see that.
[08:45] <xerox> HappyFool: no, I need the sources, not the headers
[08:45] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ :)
[08:45] <HappyFool> xerox: the headers are all that is required to build most kernel modules
[08:45] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me, once you get that just delete that partition and go back and select "use free space" I think it's the 2nd option.
[08:45] <xerox> HappyFool: uhm...
[08:46] <iG-Shoot-Me> Are you sure?
[08:46] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ Are you sure?
[08:46] <xerox> HappyFool: the configure script has "--with-kernel=dirbest guess  Specifies the kernel source directory if configure cannot guess correctl."
[08:46] <HappyFool> xerox: otherwise you can try linux-source-2.6.12
[08:46] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me, Sure assuming you have nothing on that partition 4.
[08:46] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me if windows or your stuff is on there, you may run into some problems ;)
[08:46] <xerox> HappyFool: but I have .15-16 !
[08:46] <HappyFool> xerox: *shrug* i highly recommend trying linux-headers first
[08:46] <HappyFool> ?
[08:46] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ the way im figuring out what partition i already cleared is by amount of space in it
[08:46] <HappyFool> xerox: on ubuntu 5.10 ?
[08:47] <xerox> HappyFool: 2.6.15-16-386 on dapper
[08:47] <cppnewbie> how can i make a mount path? :S
[08:47] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ I checked the spaces on each of my partition and I looked at it like that
[08:47] <rApJtR> Help.. How can I get a /usr/bin/locale          I deleted it..
[08:47] <KoMpLoT> Hi!, how can I install gcc 4.0.2?
[08:47] <KoMpLoT> using breezy
[08:47] <chibifs> :O
[08:47] <HappyFool> xerox: ah. try #ubuntu+1; i presume there is a corresponding package (linux-source-2.6.??)
[08:47] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me, Then I would assume you selected the right one.  but be certain.  if that's the one with nothing in it, hit delete, then go back and have ubuntu auto partition by selecting "use free space"
[08:47] <Alex_BO2> HELLO!What program can i use to see .lit e-books?
[08:47] <xerox> HappyFool: thank you
[08:48] <cppnewbie> *how do i make a moun point?* soz was wrong before
[08:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_, ok but is there any other way?  Because all it says is #1 #2 #3 #4
[08:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> lol
[08:48] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me, Umm.  What do you mean?
[08:48] <rApJtR> KoMpLoT sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:48] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_, Is there any other way to be sure of which partition im selecting?
[08:48] <ompaul> KoMpLoT, >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< be aware that the kernel needs you to install 3.4
[08:49] <tushkee> help: i got Xubuntu installed. i didnt know it came with a gdm like logon screen. How can I get rid of that and login instead on the console?
[08:49] <ompaul> rApJtR,
[08:49] <rApJtR> ompaul:
[08:49] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me, Mmmm, Double check in Windows, and make sure the total space is the same as partition 4.
[08:49] <ompaul> rApJtR, the problem with that is that it leaves out some stuff that make for a dev env
[08:49] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ I did, im saying is that the only way to check?
[08:49] <KoMpLoT> ompaul, rApJtR, I already have build-essential and gcc installed, it's just that I have version 4.0.1 of gcc
[08:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tushkee: ctrl + alt + F1 will take you to a console, ctrl + alt + F7 should take you back to the login screen (in case you want it).
[08:50] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me, There's a way in linux, but it'll do the same thing.
[08:50] <KoMpLoT> and I'm needing a way to update to 4.0.2 but it seems that my repositories don't have them :(
[08:50] <iG-Shoot-Me> jon_ ok, im going to go try.. Tahnks for the help
[08:50] <jon_> iG-Shoot-Me, good luck.
[08:50] <tushkee> PuMpErNiCkLe:  umm, i want it to be completely off when i turn on my PC.
[08:50] <KoMpLoT> Alex_BO2, you can try installing microsoft reader with wine
[08:50] <ompaul> KoMpLoT, I have gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) - is that okay?
[08:50] <psy> bye people!
[08:50] <rApJtR> KoMpLoT because there isn't 4.0.2 on your source server..
[08:50] <WebMaven> hi folks.
[08:51] <sixtymhz> Anyone know howto setup the libapache2-mod-security mod?
[08:51] <Alex_BO2> KoMpLoT, i don't like microsoft at all.maybe i can transform it into html, can't i?
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tushkee: Would uninstalling it work for you?
[08:51] <rApJtR> Help.. How can I get a /usr/bin/locale          I deleted it..
[08:51] <raymond8066> is their a way to bridge my networks
[08:51] <KoMpLoT> Alex_BO2, mmm, I really don't know... let me search.... maybe to pdf ;) http://www.processtext.com/abclit.html
[08:52] <KoMpLoT> well, actually it exports to a lot of formats
[08:52] <KoMpLoT> but it's a windows application
[08:52] <WebMaven> I just hooked up some new speakers, and I'd like to test them (especially the center, rear-right and rear-left speakers).
[08:52] <Alex_BO2> KoMpLoT, pdf is good however
[08:52] <tushkee> PuMpErNiCkLe:  i still want the xubuntu-desktop meta package....i just want to get rid of the logon screen. I know there's a way in Ubuntu (gnome) of turning off the GDM. Im not just sure about how to do it with Xubuntu.
[08:52] <raymond8066> dose some know if their a way to bridge my networks?
[08:52] <KoMpLoT> ompaul, which repositories do you have?
[08:52] <KoMpLoT> I want to have that version!
[08:52] <KoMpLoT> :P
[08:53] <rApJtR> KoMpLoT I have 4.0.2
[08:53] <KoMpLoT> rApJtR, where can I download it?
[08:53] <ompaul> KoMpLoT, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:53] <rApJtR> KoMpLoT you can use my sources.list
[08:53] <ompaul> KoMpLoT, I don't use non standard
[08:53] <WebMaven> the files I'm playing are only audible in the front-right, front-left, and subwoofer speakers, and I don't know if it's the files, the sound-card, or something else.
[08:53] <KoMpLoT> can you send it to me?
[08:53] <chibifs> :( My sound is crackly, and changing my pci latencies didn't fix it.
[08:53] <rApJtR> KoMpLoT wait a momnet
[08:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Quickie: What's the command to restart CUPS?
[08:53] <KoMpLoT> rApJtR, alright, thanks! :)
[08:54] <ompaul> KoMpLoT, why you may wish to consider pulling from outside the distro  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic
[08:54] <nevin> hey all
[08:54] <WebMaven> anyone?
[08:55] <ompaul> KoMpLoT, sorry not pull from outside
[08:55] <tushkee> SSH question: is the daemon running just before I get to login? I want to run a headless setup.
[08:56] <tushkee> or is the sshd be included in some startup script?
[08:56] <tushkee> any help on this? thx
[08:56] <johndarkhorse> tushkee: once your machine is up, whether you've logged in or not, the daemon is waiting
[08:56] <KoMpLoT> ompaul, he, well, anyway I really want to make kmobiletools work, and for that I need gcc4.0.2 so i'll run the risk
[08:56] <tushkee> johndarkhorse: thx! cool to know.
[08:56] <nevin> anyone knowledgable on the binary ati fglrx drivers?
[08:56] <ompaul> KoMpLoT, do the sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade <<-- see what it gives you first
[08:56] <ompaul> KoMpLoT, may work for you
[08:56] <jon_> nevin, What about it?  I'm really not but it got my ATI running ;)
[08:56] <WebMaven> OK, I'll try again. How do I test if surround-sound is working?
[08:56] <KoMpLoT> ompaul, I've just did, it just updated wine :p
[08:58] <tushkee> another SSH question...can i run the desktop environement (xfce) via X forwarding instead of just single x programs? kinda like VNC thing?
[08:58] <Seveas> tushkee, you should look at freenx
[08:58] <Seveas> !tell tushkee about freenx
[08:59] <tushkee> Seveas: thx!!! ill look into it!
[08:59] <johndarkhorse> tushkee: you probably want to use single programs via ssh X forwarding and whole environments via vnc
[08:59] <jon_> Seveas, How can one run X programs over SSH?
[08:59] <johndarkhorse> jon_: ^^^
[09:00] <tushkee> err... VNC or Freenx ??
[09:00] <jon_> johndarkhorse, He made it sound like you can without freenx, ah ok what I thought.
[09:00] <johndarkhorse> tushkee: they are both programs that aim for the same result
[09:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tushkee: Solved the gdm problem yet?
[09:00] <jon_> Ah nvm then. ;)
[09:01] <tushkee> PuMpErNiCkLe: not yet :( ill look into disabling GDM and prolly it's the same way with xfce
[09:01] <ompaul> rApJtR, have a look at installing "localeconf"  and anything else that looks obvious from this: apt-cache search locale | grep -v gnome | grep -v office | grep -v sylp | grep -v mozilla | grep -v metapackage | grep -v KDE | grep -v xubuntu
[09:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tushkee: I have a link for you, then. :)
[09:01] <johndarkhorse> jon_: you can use freenx, vnc or just plain ssh X forwarding
[09:01] <WebMaven> How do I test surround-sound?
[09:01] <jon_> johndarkhorse, Ah.  ok. no I was just confused about something, I got it now.  Thanks.
[09:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tushkee: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:odsLs6o1S-8J:www.linuxforums.org/forum/ntopic50628.html+ubuntu+%22disable+gdm%22
[09:01] <tushkee> but umm which is more secure? VNC or Freenx or VNC via SSH?
[09:01] <MrRio> would anyone be willing to test out my first deb package? its a breakout-style game
[09:01] <rApJtR> ompaul: thx, I found it in  libc6
[09:01] <tushkee> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks! ill check it
[09:02] <frankendres> Hi. Can anyone tell me where I can find doc for installing libdvdcss2 (tried universe and multiverse repository)
[09:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tushkee: np :) Let me know if it's useful.
[09:02] <IdleOne> !dvd
[09:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[09:03] <lucky> Hi.  Everytime I try and log in with KDM, it gives me a black screen then takes me back to the KDM log in screen.  Now, for other users, I have no problem logging in with kdm, its only my specific user thats having problems.  Earlier someone had suggested to me that the problem might be because my . configuration files were screwed up, so I have deleted those, and I still can't log in sucessfully from either KDM or GDM.
[09:03] <frankendres> ubotu: ok thank you. I am trying this now.
[09:03] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, frankendres
[09:04] <iLee> when bootnig
[09:04] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell lucky about xhangs
[09:04] <iLee> i get no default desktop, just a login prompt.
[09:04] <johndarkhorse> lucky: check your priv msgs
[09:05] <iLee> it says: Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" leecomp tty1
[09:05] <iLee> leecomp login:
[09:05] <iLee> i put my username and password, then its just some sort of command prompt
[09:05] <IdleOne> iLee>  you did a server install?
[09:05] <iLee> no
[09:05] <iLee> i just pressed enter
[09:05] <IdleOne> type startx
[09:05] <frankendres> uboto: yes thank you. The previous url was for freenx I think (but I may use it later).
[09:06] <iLee> it says, command not found
[09:06] <sixtymhz> Anyone know howto setup the libapache2-mod-security mod?
[09:06] <WebMaven> OK, starting to get pissed off. How do I test surround sound?
[09:06] <johndarkhorse> lucky: you found neither one?
[09:06] <ErPiU> iLee, type xinit -- :1
[09:06] <iLee> command not found
[09:06] <lucky> johndarkhorse: there is a .Xauthority and if i delete it and try logging in again, some problem.
[09:07] <lucky> johndarkhorse: the file is created again, but when i delete it and try to log in again, same issue.
[09:07] <lucky> johndarkhorse: i can start KDE fine with startx if i have starkde in my .xinitrc
[09:07] <Seveas> jon_, ssh -X
[09:07] <Narg> yarg. Why can't k3b work for Windows :P Burning an iso on it is a pita. Anyone know a good (free) program to do it? I hosed my linux installation. Heh.
[09:07] <johndarkhorse> lucky: sounds weird, have you asked in #kubuntu or #kde ?
[09:08] <lucky> johndarkhorse: its not a kde issue, i don't think
[09:08] <sixtymhz> lucky : are you using k3b?
[09:08] <iLee> ls does nothing
[09:08] <lucky> johndarkhorse: because i can't start fluxbox or gnome from gdm either
[09:08] <IdleOne> Narg>  isorecorder but it doesnt uninstall
[09:08] <sixtymhz> I get that problem with .Xauthority when I run k3b in gnome.
[09:08] <johndarkhorse> lucky: there is no .ICEauthority ?
[09:08] <lucky> johndarkhorse: nope
[09:08] <Narg> IdleOne: can I just google for it?
[09:08] <tushkee> PuMpErNiCkLe: yes it worked :) oddly enough, xubuntu uses GDM and not XDM (xfce version?) thx again
[09:08] <sixtymhz> yeah, .ICE authourty, thats the one john.
[09:09] <IdleOne> Narg>  yeah or you can find it on callforhelptv.com in free files
[09:09] <sixtymhz> whats the error lucky?? should tell you where its logged at.
[09:09] <iLee> ErPiU, does Ubuntu have a Desktop ?
[09:09] <iLee> ErPiU, it said it was installing gnome ?
[09:09] <lucky> sixtymhz: i don't know about any error. i don't get any, as far as i can tell, it just quits
[09:09] <Narg> IdleOne: thanks :)
[09:09] <IdleOne> no problem
[09:10] <ErPiU> iLee, sounds like you hane no xbase-clients
[09:10] <packman_e> hello all
[09:10] <iLee> ErPiU, how do i fix ?
[09:10] <vogel> !ati
[09:10] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:10] <IdleOne> hello packman_e
[09:11] <sixtymhz> lucky : I had that problem with gnome and it was the .ICEauthority but I dont know about KDE
[09:11] <ErPiU> iLee, type sudo apt-get install xbase-clients
[09:11] <packman_e> does anyone know the commands to install automatix please
[09:11] <IdleOne> !automatix
[09:11] <ubotu> Automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[09:11] <Gnumannen> !eterm
[09:11] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Gnumannen
[09:11] <sixtymhz> lol
[09:11] <iLee> could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[09:11] <sixtymhz> anti automatix?
[09:12] <johndarkhorse> sixtymhz: nope. we just like for folks' systems to run reliably
[09:12] <iLee> Permission was denied
[09:12] <lucky> see, i removed all my configuration files
[09:12] <packman_e> what is the other option other than automatix
[09:12] <lucky> and i still can't log in
[09:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tushkee: np :)
[09:12] <johndarkhorse> packman_e: reading the wiki is one option
[09:12] <sixtymhz> rm the lock file
[09:13] <ompaul> sixtymhz, if you had to put up with the grief that a certain program caused you would not have said that
[09:13] <MrRio> Could someone try out my first deb package, i need to know that im depending on everything i need, http://amusd.com/debs/nannoid_1.0-1_i386.deb
[09:13] <Gnumannen> I have mad 'sudo apt-get install eterm' but there isn't a commando for eterm... Can' even find eterm itself on my computer...
[09:14] <raymond8066> can someone tell me HOWto bridge my networks
[09:14] <packman_e> that script made my system superb, and it was fairly easy to do
[09:14] <soundray> Gnumannen: try Eterm (capital E)
[09:14] <johndarkhorse> Gnumannen: apt-cache search eterm
[09:14] <iLee> rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[09:14] <iLee> rm: remove write protected regular empty file `/var/lib/apt/lists/lock`? y
[09:14] <iLee> rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/lock`: Permission denied
[09:14] <iLee> e: could not open lock file ...
[09:14] <iLee> e: unable to lock list directory
[09:15] <Gnumannen> thank you! so simple ;)
[09:15] <soundray> iLee: don't try to remove the lock file. Make sure you haven't got synaptic or aptitude running anywhere.
[09:15] <biloyp> can I get some help in installing a printer
[09:15] <WebMaven> is there any particular reason I'm being ignored?
[09:15] <iLee> what happend ?
[09:15] <johndarkhorse> iLee: pasting is rude, please use a pastebin.
[09:15] <raymond8066>  can I get some help bridging my network
[09:15] <johndarkhorse> WebMaven: because nobody has the answer you're looking for?
[09:15] <raymond8066> ?
[09:16] <iLee> sorry, i didnt reliese it would paste like that
[09:16] <soundray> biloyp: have you checked that it's supported? http://linuxprinting.org will tell you what driver you need.
[09:16] <soundray> !tell WebMaven about patience
[09:16] <iLee> rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock /n rm: remove write protected regular empty file `/var/lib/apt/lists/lock`? y /n rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/lock`: Permission denied /n e: could not open lock file ... /n e: unable to lock list directory
[09:16] <WebMaven> johndarkhorse: well, dang, how hard should it be to say that, or to point me toward a more appropriate channel?
[09:16] <jon_> WebMaven, I don't know but try google ;)
[09:16] <biloyp> I did the SYstem>Adminisration thing, but when I click on "Install Driver" it ask me to open a ppd file
[09:17] <Seveas> Hmm, 526 again already, good 
[09:17] <ErPiU> iLee, are you root ?
[09:17] <WebMaven> jon_: been trying google. results for 'ubuntu surround sound' are very poor.
[09:17] <Seveas> people aren't scared away by freenode hiccups
[09:17] <iLee> im logged in as "lee"
[09:17] <jon_> WebMaven, Then I don't know. :(  Sorry.
[09:17] <raymond8066> fine, no one help me with my problems
[09:17] <biloyp> where do I go from there
[09:17] <ErPiU> iLee, you must use sudo rm ...
[09:17] <Seveas> biloyp, 3rd road to the left ;)
[09:17] <soundray> !tell raymond8066 about patience
[09:17] <iLee> lee@leecomp:~$
[09:18] <biloyp> Seveas, I went there but keep getting lost
[09:18] <Seveas> biloyp, sorry, can't be more useful than that 
[09:18] <gypsymauro> hello
[09:18] <Seveas> hy
[09:18] <soundray> raymond8066: also be as specific as you can when you describe a problem. What are you trying to achieve, what have you tried, and how has it failed.
[09:18] <virgule> please answer quickly (less than 1 hour before I go offline..). The question is, for a big hug, ReiserFS or ext3?
[09:18] <gypsymauro> where is the gnome configuration editor in ubuntu?
[09:18] <Seveas> virgule, ext3
[09:18] <biloyp> Seveas, np...I found the ppd files but they are gz files
[09:19] <jon_> virgule, ext3 ;)
[09:19] <iLee> lee~leecomp:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock /n lee~leecomp:~$ apt-get install xbase-clients
[09:19] <Seveas> iLee, sudo apt-get...
[09:19] <WebMaven> soundray: I understand that (I'm an opensource developer myself), but not getting any response after several dozen lines have scrolled by is a bit much.
[09:19] <soundray> gypsymauro: should be in Applications-System
[09:19] <virgule> 2-0 for ext3.. but why is that so?
[09:19] <Seveas> virgule, reiser gives me the creeps
[09:19] <iLee> e: could not open lock file /n e: unable to lock list directory
[09:19] <gypsymauro> soundray: what's the name?
[09:19] <Seveas> it is faster but in my experience too unstable
[09:19] <jon_> WebMaven, Generally means no one knows...or your question was too vague.
[09:19] <gypsymauro> of the application I mean
[09:19] <jon_> WebMaven, In this case, i'm betting no one knows.
[09:19] <Seveas> gypsymauro, gconf-editor?
[09:20] <johndarkhorse> iLee: open a terminal and type "ps aux|grep apt-get" and see if there are more than one line returned
[09:20] <iLee> Seveas, is SUDO some sort of master ?
[09:20] <virgule> ok! :hug Seveas:
[09:20] <dabaR> master of the universe
[09:20] <soundray> gypsymauro: Gnome Configuration Editor I think. Can't look it up, sorry.
[09:20] <Seveas> iLee, sudo lets you run things as root
[09:20] <iLee> lots of lines... help lol
[09:20] <WebMaven>  jon_ : OK, thanks.
[09:20] <raymond8066> ubuntu is gay
[09:20] <dabaR> thanks
[09:21] <iLee> ok, well sudo apt-get ... etc, is finished
[09:21] <gypsymauro> I've not :/
[09:21] <jon_> iLee, There ya go it's done ;)
[09:21] <soundray> WebMaven: do you know about alsamixer?
[09:21] <iLee> jon_, reboot ?
[09:21] <biloyp> oh well
[09:22] <jon_> iLee, no
[09:22] <jon_> iLee, tis not Windows now ;)
[09:22] <ErPiU> iLee, now you can try xinit -- :1
[09:22] <vogel> how do i check my kernel?
[09:22] <dabaR> vogel: uname -a
[09:22] <iLee> ok
[09:23] <flint> anybody out here got any ubuntu breezy audio chops?
[09:23] <tolkan> Question: how do i go about pinging servers on a hostname basis like in windows... i'm in a residential network with a router
[09:23] <mikebot> anyone here use amule?
[09:23] <dabaR> tolkan: ping hostname.com
[09:23] <flint> tolkan, you running dhcp or static ip?
[09:23] <ufo> mikebot: i d0
[09:23] <tolkan> dhcp
[09:24] <mikebot> ufo, it says it cannot get any valid servers from the setrver list or something./..how can i start using it?
[09:24] <tolkan> flint-=: dhcp
[09:24] <tolkan> dabaR-=: doesn't work
[09:24] <flint> tolkan, open a command line (the path to insanity!) type the word ping and the number... start there.
[09:24] <dabaR> !doesnt work
[09:24] <ubotu> dabaR: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:24] <s|k> why is the fridge broken in firefox
[09:24] <s|k> :/
[09:24] <s|k> kind of silly innit
[09:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> con
[09:24] <tolkan> flint-=:  that works fine but i would like to ping the hostname instead of the ip address
[09:24] <ufo> mikebot: i did some odd things to get it work... i installed xmule and then removed the xmule and installed amule
[09:24] <dabaR> tolkan: can you surf
[09:25] <iLee> x: cannot stat /etc/x11/x (no such file... )
[09:25] <ErPiU> iLee, sudo apt-get install xserver-common xserver-xorg
[09:25] <vogel> if i shAll install atis drivers, is this the right line? $ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:25] <mikebot> ufo, is all that required?
[09:25] <iLee> ErPiU, how do i get back to typing commands
[09:25] <flint> tolkan, there is a file that you need to play with.  Take root (sudo bash) and get hold of /etc/resolv.conf.
[09:25] <z3r0x> does anybody know how to synchronize evolution with my p910i ? It's connected on /dev/ttyUSB0
[09:25] <Bean> can i use a file system path to mounted server connections?
[09:25] <soundray> tolkan: if you want to ping the name of hosts which aren't public, you have to enter them in the /etc/hosts file.
[09:25] <mikebot> ufo, what server do you connect to?
[09:25] <ufo> mikebot: after that amule uses .xmule directory... i have not looked what it actually did
[09:26] <dabaR> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:26] <dabaR> vogel:
[09:26] <mikebot> ufo, well what server do you connect to?
[09:26] <tolkan> flint-=: soundray : theres no way i could access local hostnames through the router? i thought the router acts as a local DNS server in order to provide machines with resolved ips
[09:26] <vogel> yes?
[09:27] <packman_e> has the automatix script been removed/moved
[09:27] <soundray> tolkan: if the router has DNS, you have to enter the router address in /etc/resolv.conf (a line like 'nameserver 192.168.1.1')
[09:27] <iLee> it asked me to configure resolution
[09:27] <sk> hi all!  Newb here.
[09:27] <ufo> mikebot: i downloaded the server.met file manually from net... but i did not help... the amule could not connect to servers on list before i did the xmule trick
[09:27] <iLee> i selected my res, and then it takes me back to prompt
[09:27] <vogel> am i wrong?
[09:27] <mikebot> ufo, hrm, okay, so just download xmule?
[09:27] <soundray> tolkan: does the router also have DHCP?
[09:28] <ufo> mikebot: apt-get install xmule
[09:28] <ErPiU> iLee, this is a difficult question for me
[09:28] <iLee> i did your command
[09:28] <dabaR> vogel: that line above your name is your command
[09:28] <iLee> and then blue screen appeared, i selected res. now back to entering command thing
[09:28] <sk> anyone know how to get ubuntu running on an emachines amd 64 with nvidia GeForce 6100 onboard?  have trouble recognizing video, eth, sound.
[09:28] <flint> tolkan, soundray lets move this to a private channel.  The router could be resolving for you - or not.
[09:29] <Bean> can i use a file system path to mounted server connections? Trying to set a basedir in the Bluefish editor to my directory on web server.
[09:29] <tolkan> soundray-=: that line is in there, I also have named a DNS suffix in the router,  "homenetwork" and that is in resolv.conf as "search homenetwork"
[09:29] <matt_> i have dited my fstab as described in some wikientry. its for an ntfs partition and is now "ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000". after that i ran "sudo mount -a". But that didn't change anything. i still have no access to /media/sda2
[09:30] <vogel> yes?ok thanks
[09:30] <dalo> god evening  everybody ....
[09:30] <lnx_> when i connect an external USB hdd it shows as "DRV4_VOL1" but it won't mount, does anyone have an idea?
[09:30] <iLee> im trying xinnit -- :1 (now)
[09:30] <iLee> it says... fatal error: could not open default font `fixed`;
[09:30] <soundray> flint: I think this is on-topic (if somewhat borderline).
[09:31] <vogel> how do I now check if it has ben installed right?
[09:31] <mikebot> You have a lowid. Please review your network config and/or your settings.
[09:31] <mikebot> what does that mean?
[09:32] <ufo> mikebot: you are behind firewall
[09:32] <iLee> fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server
[09:32] <Munchkinguy> Hello.
[09:32] <mikebot> ufo, how can i make this work then?
[09:32] <mikebot> ufo, i don't have a firewall installed
[09:32] <iLee> ":1.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaning.
[09:32] <dalo>  is there anybody who can tell me if it is  posible to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to edubuntu 5.10? by the usual way by the repo
[09:33] <soundray> tolkan, can you check whether the router responds to DNS queries?
[09:33] <ufo> mikebot: do you have a router and your network address is 192.*.*. or 10.* something
[09:33] <Munchkinguy> On the Breezy Live CD, I cannot mount my floppy drive, even though I can easily format a disk in the floppy drive using "Floppy Formater".
[09:33] <tolkan> soundray-=: how would i go about doing that?
[09:34] <iLee> fatal server error
[09:34] <mikebot> ufo, i don't havea  router and i don't know my neytwork address
[09:34] <iLee> could not open default font `fixed`;
[09:34] <Munchkinguy> I get the message "given UDI is not a moutable volume"
[09:34] <mikebot> ufo, brb
[09:34] <ufo> mikebot: look with ifconfig
[09:34] <iLee> the X server's fot paths might be misconfgured. remote font server(s)
[09:34] <soundray> tolkan: if the nameserver line corresponding to the router, and you get an immediate response to an arbitrary request like the one triggered by 'ping www.heise.de', then it is responding.
[09:34] <s|k> what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[09:35] <varsendagger> kde
[09:35] <varsendagger> and gnome
[09:35] <Xenguy> s|k: gnome vs. kde
[09:35] <s|k> oh
[09:35] <varsendagger> it should be called gubuntu
[09:35] <soundray> tolkan: sorry: if the nameserver line corresponding to the router *is the first*, and you get an immediate...
[09:35] <varsendagger> then there would be no confusion
[09:35] <n00bmaster> gnome sucks
[09:35] <s|k> heh
[09:35] <n00bmaster> it looks like os9
[09:35] <s|k> I like gnome
[09:35] <Munchkinguy> varsendagger: could you help me please
[09:35] <Munchkinguy> ?
[09:35] <Xenguy> n00bmaster: nonsense, begone =)
[09:35] <lurah> http://adaworld.com/asciiforum/viewtopic.php?t=213
[09:35] <iLee> the X server's fot paths might be misconfgured. remote font server(s)
[09:35] <n00bmaster> lol
[09:36] <tolkan> soundray-=: yes, pings to outside work fine, the router understands its own DNS gateway, but maybe i'm not referencing hte local pcs properly
[09:36] <s|k> kde looks like windows
[09:36] <jon_> s|k, Kinda.
[09:36] <Xenguy> s|k: too much so for me
[09:36] <iLee> could not open default font `fixed`;
[09:36] <Seveas> people, gnome vs kde wars outside please
[09:36] <iLee> xinnit
[09:36] <soundray> tolkan: good, you've narrowed it down to how you made the local hosts known to the router.
[09:37] <dalo>  is there anybody who can tell me if it is  posible to upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to edubuntu 5.10? by the usual way (the renaming repo)
[09:37] <s|k> is there anything besides kde and gnome?
[09:37] <soundray> tolkan: can you get a shell on the router?
[09:37] <Seveas> dalo, ubuntu and edubuntu share the same repository, just apt-get install edubuntu-desktop or edubuntu-server
[09:37] <Xenguy> s|k: xfce4 (lean; good for older hardware too)
[09:37] <scorp82> I like everything else in kubuntu but the "sudo" command instead of the "root"-user
[09:37] <tolkan> soundray-=: i can access it through HTTP, im not sure how to do it otherwise, lets see if i can telnet in
[09:37] <Xenguy> s|k: and others of course
[09:37] <Seveas> s|k, fluxbox, twm, cde, project lookingglass
[09:37] <dalo> thanks sevaes
[09:37] <iLee> i cant start
[09:37] <iLee> it wont start
[09:37] <s|k> I see
[09:38] <Munchkinguy> Someone please help me.
[09:38] <iLee> fatal server error
[09:38] <Telarian02> Anyone know a fix so that resolv.conf does not get cleaned out on boot?
[09:38] <scorp82> anybody from Finland???
[09:38] <soundray> tolkan: did you give it the names of your LAN hosts via the HTTP interface?
[09:38] <Seveas> !listvals dhcp
[09:38] <lurah> scorp82 joo
[09:38] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'dhcp' by value (1 shown): dns-dhcp.
[09:38] <Seveas> !dns-dhcp
[09:38] <ubotu> Using static DNS with DHCP: http://pastebin.com/370390
[09:38] <iLee> hello ?
[09:38] <tolkan> yes, it autoresolves when computers use DHClient
[09:38] <Seveas> ^-- Telarian02
[09:38] <Xenguy> Telarian02: it should not get "cleaned out"; /etc/resolv.conf persists
[09:38] <Seveas> Xenguy, dhclient clears it
[09:39] <Xenguy> Seveas: ahh, I stand corrected
[09:39] <soundray> tolkan: were you replying to me?
[09:39] <Munchkinguy> On the Breezy Live CD, I cannot mount my floppy drive (I get the message "given UDI is not a mountable volume"), even though I can easily format a disk in the floppy drive using "Floppy Formater".
[09:39] <Telarian02> Seveas, i'll see what I can do hehe been tormented by dhcp for awhile now
[09:39] <scorp82> Nice!!
[09:40] <soundray> Munchkinguy: what did you use as a mount command, and what was the error message?
[09:40] <Jimer> fatak IU errir 104 (connection reset by peer)
[09:40] <Jimer> fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer)
[09:40] <Jimer> when i try xstart
[09:41] <soundray> tolkan: did you give it the names of your LAN hosts via the HTTP interface?
[09:41] <Jimer> when i try xstart, fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer)
[09:41] <Munchkinguy> soundray: I was using the File Browser
[09:41] <tolkan> soundray-=: yes, it autoresolves when computers use DHClient
[09:42] <soundray> tolkan: I'll rephrase my question.
[09:42] <Jimer> may be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or are not configured correctly
[09:42] <Jimer> thats all i can see at top of screen
[09:42] <Munchkinguy> soundray: error message: "given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[09:42] <mikebot> ufo, okat what am i looking for?
[09:42] <soundray> tolkan: did you use the router's HTTP interface to feed it all the names of the hosts in your LAN?
[09:42] <mikebot> i don't undertsand why on windows soulseek worked SO well with this school network, but nothing on ubuntu does
[09:42] <Jimer> i cant run xstart, does anyone know why ?
[09:43] <larsemil> hi! i need a phpeditor capable of sftp... any suggestions?
[09:43] <ufo> mikebot: are you on shchool network
[09:43] <Jimer> :'(
[09:43] <soundray> Munchkinguy: try on the commandline: 'sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy/ ; sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy/'. Then you should be able to point your file browser at /mnt/floppy and see your files.
[09:43] <Jimer> anyone got any ideas ?!
[09:44] <ufo> mikebot: it might be you cant use direct connect to your computer
[09:44] <tolkan> soundray-=: no, it doesnt work like that, when the DHCP request takes place, the hostname is given to the router
[09:44] <larsemil> anyone knows a phpeditor with sftp support?
[09:44] <Jimer> i cant run xstart, does anyone know why ?
[09:44] <soundray> tolkan: does your router manual claim that it works as a DNS server for the LAN?
[09:45] <tolkan> soundray-=: yes it does,
[09:45] <Munchkinguy> soundray: Thank you
[09:46] <Jimer> i cant run xstart, does anyone know why ?
[09:46] <crouchingMonkey> i got flash installed from the official website but it still wont work, any suggestions
[09:46] <cppnewbie> hey how can i see if ive got the proper rights to browse and write in a storage device? (filesystem: fat)
[09:46] <delphi> Hi, I am running the latest build of dapper drake, but only have a 640x480 resolution and can't change it from that with gnome. where is best to look?
[09:46] <soundray> tolkan: it's unusual, though, for a DHCP client to determine its own hostname and pass it to the DHCP server (that's how I understand you).
[09:46] <mikebot> ufo, why did soulseek work then?
[09:47] <mikebot> ufo, yea, i'm on a school network
[09:47] <Jimer> i cant run xstart, does anyone know why ?
[09:47] <myki> how to combine a few files into 1 ?
[09:47] <Ox0000> Is there a way to simulate a keypress in a shellscript?
[09:47] <soundray> Jimer don't repeat pls
[09:47] <soundray> Jimer, can you run X
[09:47] <ufo> maybe the soulseek does not need direct connect and the amule works even if you have an lowid
[09:47] <soundray> ?
[09:47] <tushkee> I'm running a headless setup. Can you suggest a better way how to restart it? I'm issuing the shutdown -r command via SSH on terminal...but the root password shows up unmasked.
[09:47] <vogel> !paste
[09:47] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[09:48] <Jimer> soundray, no
[09:48] <cppnewbie> Error i get while trying to write to my external usb storage device: Could not make folder /media/sdc1 etc. <--- while trying to copy a folder in one of its directories. what could be the problem? :S
[09:48] <soundray> Jimer: what happens when you run X (not startx or xstart or gdm, just X on a line by itself)?
[09:49] <vogel> What shall I do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9767
[09:49] <Jimer> command not found
[09:50] <soundray> Jimer, did you use a capital X?
[09:50] <WoC> anyone who knows if there is a tar to cpio converter?
[09:50] <Jimer> with a capital it says
[09:50] <Jimer> fatal server error: could not open default font `fixed`;
[09:51] <Jimer> the X server's font paths might be misconfigured. remote font server(s) may be unreachable
[09:51] <soundray> Jimer, okay. Run 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base'
[09:51] <biloyp> dayum I got my printer to work whooo hoooo
[09:51] <ThePhur> hi guys.
[09:51] <h0me5k1n> if I add a hard drive to store music... what filesystem should I use (ext3,fat32) if I want to store music on it for all users?
[09:51] <soundray> Jimer: then try capital X again.
[09:52] <LjL> h0me5k1n: are some of the users using windows?
[09:52] <soundray> biloyp: well done.
[09:52] <h0me5k1n> hell no :D
[09:52] <WoC> wb, LjL would u mind giving an example cmd line for creating cpio files?
[09:52] <Jimer> soundray, done.
[09:52] <LjL> h0me5k1n: then there's nothing wrong with ext3
[09:52] <h0me5k1n> and the best mount point ?
[09:52] <LjL> WoC: err...
[09:52] <Jimer> i type X now, and a cursor comes up
[09:53] <LjL> WoC: i'm afraid i don't know what a cpio file *is* :)
[09:53] <LjL> h0me5k1n: doesn't really matter. /mnt/music would be fine
[09:53] <Seveas> LjL, cpio is an archive format
[09:53] <tolkan> soundray-=: i believe so, whatever is in "$Hostname" sits in the router's DHCP bank, now i just have to figure out how to access it
[09:53] <Jimer> soundray, but i dont get any desktop just an X
[09:53] <h0me5k1n> ty very much
[09:53] <WoC> k, ty anyway, ljl, trying edit my initrd
[09:53] <biloyp> soundray, thx....I got a HP PSC 1350v..used the driver for the 1310 and it works
[09:53] <soundray> vogel, check that you have the fglrx module loaded and that fglrx is the driver module that xorg.conf points to.
[09:53] <LjL> WoC, Seveas: ugh, and one whose man page scares me at first sight :)
[09:54] <Seveas> LjL, it's a fiendish little thing - avoid it 
[09:54] <WoC> amen to that ljl
[09:54] <soundray> Jimer: great. Stop it with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, then you should be able to reboot into gnome or start gdm with 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[09:55] <soundray> tolkan: if all else fails, read the router manual ;)  I know it can be a pain if it's a PDF hiding on some CD-ROM.
[09:55] <Jimer> soundray; sudo: command not found
[09:55] <iG-Shoot-Me> Ahh
[09:55] <iG-Shoot-Me> Does anybody remember me?
[09:55] <LjL> Seveas: =)  woc: it looks to me like you should use something like    find /dir/where/files/are/contained | cpio --create >cpioarchive
[09:56] <soundray> Jimer: you have a strange installation. Did you install with the 'server' boot option?
[09:56] <Jimer> soundray, no
[09:56] <WoC> ah, ok :) thanks alot LjL
[09:56] <Jimer> soundray, i seen it install gnome amoung other things
[09:56] <LjL> WoC: yeah that seems to work for me, just tried
[09:56] <kyevan> Can apt be told to get packages off the internet when they are on the CD?
[09:56] <iG-Shoot-Me> I just did the ubuntu install and I got error: Unable to install initrd-tools
[09:56] <iG-Shoot-Me> Now my computer wont boot from hard drive!!!
[09:57] <mrproper> The numeric pad doesn't work in X on my gnome based system.  It won't work under 101 or 104.  I am using a Kensington Mac keyboard.
[09:57] <tolkan> soundray-=: heh i'm actually doing that now :) thanks so much for your hlep
[09:57] <soundray> Jimer: does it do anything when you run 'sudo dpkg --pending --configure'?
[09:57] <cppnewbie> Error i get while trying to write to my external usb storage device: Could not make folder /media/sdc1 etc. <--- while trying to copy a folder in one of its directories. what could be the problem? :S how could i figure it out? :S
[09:57] <LjL> kyevan: yeah just comment out the cd-rom line in your sources.list. or do you want something different?
[09:57] <vogel> soundray: if you want to chack my x.org file, I should be happy!:P
[09:57] <vogel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9768
[09:57] <iG-Shoot-Me> Please help!!!
[09:57] <Jimer> soundray, yea it just does it and then stops (no error) i guess the command finished
[09:57] <kyevan> LjL: Nope, that's what I need. thanks!
[09:57] <vogel> ok
[09:58] <LjL> kyevan: you'll want to "sudo apt-get update" afterwards
[09:58] <kyevan> of course.
[09:58] <soundray> Jimer: try startx again pls.
[09:58] <iG-Shoot-Me> Hello?
[09:58] <cppnewbie> so do i iG-Shoot-Me :P
[09:58] <cppnewbie> doesnt help the chan however obviously
[09:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> my whole ecomputer crasehd.d..
[09:59] <LjL> iG-Shoot-Me: i've seen that error already... but haven't quite found a solution myself
[09:59] <vogel> yes what do you want to have help white?
[09:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> my computer wont boot..
[09:59] <cppnewbie> so patience is the thing i assume
[09:59] <Jimer> xession: unable to start x session --- no "/home/lee.xsession" file
[09:59] <iG-Shoot-Me> LjL: SO WHAT DO I DO?
[09:59] <Jimer> thats not the only error, no terminal emulaters found amoung other things...
[09:59] <dj-smilee> evening folks
[09:59] <vogel> Please dont yell at oss!
[09:59] <Jolly> Hello everyone i have Grip but it will not encode my oggvorbis files to mp3 how do i fix this?
[10:00] <LjL> iG-Shoot-Me: surprising as it might appear... i don't know :)
[10:00] <soundray> vogel, if you move down to 'Section "Device"' there is a line that says 'Driver "ati"'. This indicates that you haven't followed the wiki yet. Gotcha! Look out for ubotu's message:
[10:00] <cppnewbie> rofl LjL, anything concerning my prob? :S
[10:00] <soundray> !tell vogel about ati
[10:00] <dj-smilee> does anyone here use NFS root? or know anything about devfs/udev and the error message INIT: id "x" respawning too fast
[10:00] <LjL> cppnewbie: what command did you use exactly?
[10:00] <iG-Shoot-Me> Somebody wnt to help me?  My computer is gone?
[10:01] <Jimer> soundray, should i reinstall ?
[10:01] <cppnewbie> no command line. drag n'drop using Konqueror
[10:01] <LjL> iG-Shoot-Me: try "apt-install initrd-tools" from the shell (if i recall the syntax well)
[10:01] <tushkee> Is there an SCP client gui version available on *nix ???
[10:01] <Jolly> Hello everyone i have Grip but it will not encode my oggvorbis files to mp3 how do i fix this?
[10:01] <cppnewbie> got the message: Could not make folder /media/sdc1 etc
[10:01] <LjL> cppnewbie: do you have permissions on that directory? try   ls -l /media to check
[10:01] <soundray> Jimer, hold on, I missed a few lines. Please use my nick, so I have them highlighted.
[10:02] <Jimer> soundray, xession: unable to start x session --- no "/home/lee.xsession" file
[10:02] <ITS_FOR_REAL> i cant send mail and sendmail.cf is missing.... i can recieve mai...
[10:02] <ITS_FOR_REAL> what to do?
[10:02] <cppnewbie> shows strange stuff in there such as lrwxrwxrwx :S
[10:02] <LjL> cppnewbie: does the sdc1 entry say that?
[10:02] <dabaR> cppnewbie: it is a link
[10:02] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, apt-get install sendmail ?
[10:02] <Jolly> Hello everyone i have Grip but it will not encode my oggvorbis files to mp3 how do i fix this?
[10:02] <cppnewbie> while all the other entries say root, sdc1 says user
[10:03] <dabaR> tushkee: aptitude search scp
[10:03] <dabaR> cppnewbie: a user created it...
[10:03] <LjL> cppnewbie: where? in the fstab? or your user name with ls?
[10:03] <cppnewbie> well then, problem is i cant write into it
[10:03] <cppnewbie> my username
[10:03] <soundray> Jimer: clearly something went wrong during your installation. You could try to salvage it, run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and see if that works. But it may be best to reinstall.
[10:03] <cppnewbie> says
[10:03] <chuckyp> !tell Jolly about multimedia
[10:03] <LjL> cppnewbie: can you read from it using nautilus or whatever it is that you're using?
[10:04] <cppnewbie> drwx------  15 user user 16384 1970-01-01 02:00 sdc1 <-- yea i can read and copy from it onto linux, i cant do the opposite.
[10:04] <cppnewbie> thats what ls -l said, i dunno if that helps
[10:04] <LjL> cppnewbie: uh, is your username "user" or did you simply change that for pasting?
[10:04] <cppnewbie> for pasting of course :p
[10:04] <chuckyp> cppnewbie, you mean you can't read it from windows?  What type of partition is it on?
[10:05] <ITS_FOR_REAL> chuckyp, ok it uninstalled postfix now but if i can get sendmail to work that "ok"
[10:05] <mikebot> has anyone here successfully used soulseek in ubuntu?
[10:05] <LjL> cppnewbie: ok, well... are you trying to copy directly into /media/sdc1 or into a subdirectory of it?
[10:05] <Jimer> soundray, my mission was to learn more about Linux... =)
[10:06] <chuckyp> !tell ITS_FOR_REAL about sendmail
[10:06] <cppnewbie> a subdirectory, it matters? rights change from each subdirectory to another and not sdc1 itself alone? :S
[10:06] <kyevan> is there a way to remove the timestamp checking from sudo? My clock is really messed up and when i correct it via ntp, i usualy can't use sudo for up to a day or two (Yes, it's that bad)
[10:06] <LjL> cppnewbie: they might. try "ls /media/sdc1 | grep nameofthesubdirectory"
[10:06] <LjL> cppnewbie: no, try "ls -l /media/sdc1 | grep nameofthesubdirectory"
[10:06] <mikebot> is there a program like gtkpod that actually plays the songs, and doesn't rely on an outside mp3 player?
[10:06] <soundray> Jimer: that is a very worthy mission. Do keep going ;)
[10:06] <HymnToLife> kyevan> normally the clock synchronises at bootu
[10:06] <ITS_FOR_REAL> chuckyp, bot lagging ot what?
[10:06] <HymnToLife> if connected
[10:06] <HymnToLife> bootup*
[10:07] <vstockwell> Ok I checked xorg.conf and everything is setup right or so it appears but I Can't get a resolution bigger then 640x480
[10:07] <kyevan> HymnToLife: Yes, but once it's running, it starts going at weird speeds
[10:07] <LjL> mikebot: don't really know what gtkpod does, but amaroK is a player and has iPod support
[10:07] <LjL> mikebot: it's for KDE though
[10:07] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, i've never configured sendmail. :(
[10:07] <cppnewbie> LjL doesnt output a thing
[10:07] <ompaul> !sendmail
[10:07] <ubotu> well, sendmail is we use postfix
[10:07] <mikebot> LjL, is there a gnome version or equivolent?
[10:07] <kyevan> HymnToLife: Like, right now it thinks it's 7am tomorow.
[10:07] <LjL> mikebot: not that i know
[10:07] <HymnToLife> maybe a timezone problem
[10:08] <soundray> kyevan: you really have to setup a cron job to timesync more often.
[10:08] <mikebot> LjL, okay, and is there a way i can remove xmule and amule?
[10:08] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, what is wrong with postfix? it is 10^100 times easier to configure
[10:08] <LjL> cppnewbie: is that a subdirectory of a subdirectory then? for example, if it's /media/sdc1/blah/foo, you should type "ls -l /media/sdc1/blah | grep foo"
[10:08] <kyevan> HymnToLife: No, it's not that. It runs fast.
[10:08] <LjL> mikebot: "sudo aptitude remove amule xmule"
[10:08] <HymnToLife> ah ok
[10:08] <HymnToLife> hmm
[10:08] <chuckyp> cppnewbie, ls -l /media/sdc1/*.* | grep nameofdirectory
[10:08] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, good question and now its uninstall due to sendmail module :D
[10:08] <soundray> kyevan: do you want a workaround for the sudo ban?
[10:08] <HymnToLife> haven't a clue :/ did you search the wiki and.or forum ?
[10:08] <LjL> chuckyp: "*.*" ? :o)
[10:08] <HymnToLife> maybe that will work
[10:08] <kyevan> soundray: that would be nice
[10:08] <HymnToLife> !clock
[10:08] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[10:09] <iG-Shoot-Me> when do i type apt-install intitrd-tools
[10:09] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, apt-get install postfix
[10:09] <mikebot> LjL, thanks, and is nicotine for gnome or kde, or does it even matter?
[10:09] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, why were you installing sendmail in the first place? (been missing for a while)
[10:09] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> in a terminal
[10:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> cant send  mail..
[10:09] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, should be able to configure it from /etc/whatever.conf
[10:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, nor with echo or mailing program
[10:09] <ompaul> chuckyp, it ain't debian - sudo apt-get install postfix :)
[10:09] <dabaR> HymnToLife: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ntpdate iirc
[10:09] <LjL> mikebot: dunno what nicotine is, but in general, it doesn't *really* matter if a program is for KDE or Gnome... you can use it in the other desktop anyway. except that it will install a ton of libraries
[10:09] <Jolly> how do i download something in synaptic in mulltiverse
[10:09] <Jimer> soundray, thnx
[10:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> chuckyp, ok but i also miss sendmail.cf ...
[10:09] <HymnToLife> dabaR> tll it to ubotu ;)
[10:09] <Jimer> soundray, its taking a while
[10:09] <chuckyp> ompaul, hrm... sry bout that.  I figure they get the sudo part.  I'm a debian user myself.
[10:09] <soundray> kyevan: it takes a few steps. First you want to synchronize with a time server. Then create a reference file for the current time: 'touch /tmp/reference'
[10:10] <Jolly> what is the difference between multiverse and universe
[10:10] <vogel> !ati
[10:10] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:10] <HymnToLife> tell*
[10:10] <globe> !deb
[10:10] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[10:10] <LjL> mikebot: anyway nicotine appears to be a GTK program (which will be fine on Gnome, as Gnome uses GTK)
[10:10] <mikebot> LjL, okay,. thanks
[10:10] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, okay for one there is no postfix or sendmail in the default install, so install it
[10:10] <MrRio> Could someone try out this package? I'm going to start contributing a fair few packages to universe, want to make sure i've got the hang of it... http://amusd.com/debs/nannoid_1.0-1_i386.deb
[10:10] <mikebot> LjL, okay good good
[10:10] <cppnewbie> well i used ls -l /media/sdc1/directory/subdirectoryofdirectory/ and it shows up all the folders ive got in there with some... codename or something with the rwxr stuff and so on. how do i figure out if i can modify it? :S
[10:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> gr
[10:10] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, then hack the main.conf iirc and then its funtime at the oasis
[10:10] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> which filesystem is it ?
[10:10] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, sendmail or postfix because when i install sendmail it takes away postfix
[10:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> Its installing the base system
[10:10] <cppnewbie> fat
[10:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> Then it gives me some errors
[10:10] <HymnToLife> hmm
[10:10] <LjL> mike: if you type "apt-cache show nicotine" (or whatever program), you'll see a "Depends:" line. there you can check whether the program requires libgtk-something, libgnome-something, kdelibs-something, libqt-something, and that kind of things
[10:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> Then it says tthat it cant continue
[10:10] <HymnToLife> USB, SATA or what ?
[10:11] <cppnewbie> not fat32 not fat16, fat alone
[10:11] <cppnewbie> usb
[10:11] <HymnToLife> weird
[10:11] <mikebot> LjL, okay cool, thanks
[10:11] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, postfix is easier to work with and more secure.
[10:11] <iG-Shoot-Me> with the Unable to install initrd-tools
[10:11] <soundray> kyevan: then set a system time that is further in the future than any file on the system (probably 12pm tomorrow will be enough)
[10:11] <HymnToLife> USB Drives shoud mount rw for anyone
[10:11] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, use postfix its just easier, sendmail is book about a multi volume encyplopedia
[10:11] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, apt-cache search initrd
[10:11] <LjL> cppnewbie: look, just try copying a file *directly* into /media/sdc1, not in a subdir, and see if that works
[10:11] <HymnToLife> have you tried adding a line for it in /etc/fstab ?
[10:11] <LjL> chuckyp: his Ubuntu is not installed
[10:11] <iG-Shoot-Me> chuckyp, where do i type that
[10:11] <ompaul> chuckyp, np :)
[10:11] <dabaR> ubotu: clock is sudo dpkg-reconfigure ntpdate
[10:11] <ubotu> dabaR: okay
[10:11] <mikebot> LjL, also, under my applications>internet, i have a bunch of stuff like: kppp, krdc, krfb, kwifimanager
[10:11] <soundray> kyevan: then you find all files that need resetting, and set them to the time of the reference file. Give me a minute to compose the command...
[10:12] <mikebot> LjL, and i don't knwo what those are
[10:12] <ITS_FOR_REAL> chuckyp, ok i want it to work a php script to work "only" with just send a mail... but still postfix is easiest way to go=
[10:12] <cppnewbie> LjL doesnt work either
[10:12] <LjL> iG-Shoot-Me: in a shell (press alt+f2). won't work anyway i'm afraid
[10:12] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ?
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> yeah ubuntu isnt installed..
[10:12] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> what are you trying to do now ?
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> how do i get back to windows!
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> I want to get back to windows!
[10:12] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, yeah you can use postfix
[10:12] <kyevan> soundray: Wouldn't all that require root privledges?
[10:12] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> reboot your machine :p
[10:12] <LjL> mikebot: those are KDE programs. kppp is a front-end to connect using a dialup modem (or similar), krdc is a remote desktop client, krfb is a remote desktop serevr, and kwifimanager is something to do with WiFi connections
[10:12] <kyevan> At the moment the only work around I've figured out is leaving a root shell running (MAJOR MAJOR NO NO)
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> GEe thanks
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> As if i didnt try that..
[10:12] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, what are you talking about then?
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> I get SYSTEM BOOT ERROR
[10:13] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, okay what version of windows do you have?
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> Please insert a system disc when i try to boot from hard drive
[10:13] <ITS_FOR_REAL> chuckyp, ok installed... what to config now
[10:13] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> boot from the winxp CD
[10:13] <soundray> kyevan: setting the system time does. You can do it with sudo date for example.
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> XP Professional
[10:13] <HymnToLife> runa recovery console
[10:13] <mikebot> LjL, how can i get rid of all of those kde things?
[10:13] <LjL> iG-Shoot-Me: use the windows rescue CD to re-create a boot sector i guess
[10:13] <HymnToLife> and run the command fixmbr
[10:13] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, google for postfix ubuntu
[10:13] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, so install postfix it will work, stop thinkging all these things are "tightly" meshed they are all standing up in the same room handing stuff to each other but they know nothing other than their api for the next program along
[10:13] <kyevan> soundray: But, if sudo isn'y working....
[10:13] <mikebot> LjL, i don't even recall how i got them
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont have one..
[10:13] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, boot from xp cd go to recovery mode then fixmbr
[10:13] <soundray> kyevan: then you need to do it in the recovery console.
[10:13] <HymnToLife> then you're screwed :p
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont have one
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> !!
[10:13] <ubotu> iG-Shoot-Me: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:13] <Jolly>  what is the difference between multiverse and universe
[10:14] <dabaR> !components
[10:14] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[10:14] <Jolly>  what is the difference between multiverse and universe in synaptic?
[10:14] <HymnToLife> but why did the Ubuntu install fail ?
[10:14] <iG-Shoot-Me> Because it gave me error:
[10:14] <LjL> mikebot: "sudo aptitude remove kppp krdc krfb kwifimanager" i guess. you might have other KDE programs installed too, and if you want to remove those, you could try "sudo aptitude remove kdelibs4c2"
[10:14] <HymnToLife> Jolly> the packages that are in them obviously
[10:14] <vogel> !ati
[10:14] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:14] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, yes but i got it installed and configed as far as i could see but still didnt work and was also missing sendmail.cf that stood in some howto that i was needed
[10:14] <iG-Shoot-Me> Unable to install initrd-tools During the "Installing the base system"
[10:15] <HymnToLife> hmmmm
[10:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> I got it again
[10:15] <HymnToLife> that's weird
[10:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> Im on a laptop right now just so you know
[10:15] <mikebot> !paste
[10:15] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:15] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, then you can try http://www.sysresccd.org
[10:15] <HymnToLife> well
[10:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.
[10:15] <soundray> kyevan: assuming time is set forward in the recovery console, do 'find / -newer /tmp/reference -print0 | xargs -0 touch -r /tmp/reference'
[10:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> log for the details.
[10:15] <soundray> kyevan: making sense?
[10:15] <HymnToLife> and what did the log say ?
[10:15] <LjL> cppnewbie: can you copy to it using the shell? (try    cp somefile /media/sdc1/ )
[10:15] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL,  man postconf and edit  /etc/postfix/main.cf and stop talking about sendmail.cf its harder than C++
[10:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> I cant check the log..
[10:16] <kyevan> soundray: not really. Also, ntpdate is now complaining that the port is in use
[10:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont know how..
[10:16] <mikebot> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9769
[10:16] <mikebot> LjL, is that bad? haha
[10:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> And im pretty sure ubuntu has to be installed to do it
[10:16] <HymnToLife> hmpress Ctrl+Alt+Fx
[10:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, ok
[10:16] <HymnToLife> to get into a console
[10:16] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, before you say mysql and php What actual function do you want to preform?
[10:16] <kyevan> (I just installed "ntp-simple" at a friends insistance)
[10:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> Fx?
[10:16] <cppnewbie> LjL im not trying to copy a file but another directory
[10:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, thx need some time on my own now i guess...
[10:16] <LjL> mikebot: you have most of KDE installed
[10:16] <HymnToLife> and run dmesg | tail
[10:16] <mikebot> LjL, i had the kde desktop instaleld, but i guess this will remove all of that
[10:16] <mikebot> LjL, haha
[10:16] <LjL> mikebot: don't confirm that command, as i can't be sure there is not something else being removed
[10:16] <HymnToLife> F1/2/3/4/5/6/whatever
[10:17] <mikebot> LjL, it's too late for that
[10:17] <LjL> mikebot: no, you *have* the kde desktop installed
[10:17] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, i want php to send a mail through smtp...
[10:17] <LjL> cppnewbie: just try with a file first
[10:17] <soundray> kyevan: if you reboot and choose the recovery option in the grub menu, you should be able to run ntpdate without a problem.
[10:17] <Jolly> How do i switch synaptic over to a multiverse repository so i can download software from there
[10:17] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife, what do I do?
[10:17] <chuckyp> LjL, what is he trying to do?
[10:17] <mikebot> LjL, not aynmore
[10:17] <HymnToLife> but I think your CD was bad
[10:17] <LjL> mikebot: well at least you have the list of packages in the pastebin
[10:17] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, made a webbshop that need to mail product information
[10:17] <kyevan> soundray: OK, but, won't I have to do this all the time still?
[10:17] <LjL> mikebot: will be easy to reinstall
[10:17] <iG-Shoot-Me> I did it myself
[10:17] <mikebot> LjL, haha yeah, i guess that's good
[10:17] <cppnewbie> aha
[10:17] <cppnewbie> says its read only
[10:17] <mikebot> LjL, well i don't want kde anyway
[10:17] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife, I downloaded the iso myself
[10:17] <HymnToLife> have you md5sum'd it ?
[10:17] <kyevan> I kinda want something that will make it so that I won't have to deal with it
[10:17] <josep_> hi
[10:18] <chuckyp> cppnewbie, is this an ntfs partition you are working with?
[10:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife, ?
[10:18] <soundray> kyevan: not if you then set up a cron job or so to run ntpdate every hour
[10:18] <HymnToLife> to check if it wasn't corrupted somehow
[10:18] <Jolly> How do i switch synaptic over to a multiverse repository so i can download software from there?
[10:18] <cppnewbie> chuckyp no a fat one :P
[10:18] <HymnToLife> !md5sum
[10:18] <mikebot> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9770
[10:18] <ubotu> md5sum is, like, totally, to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto for Windows see http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:18] <LjL> chuckyp: his Ubuntu installation fails with an "Unable to find initrd-tools". i've seen that already with someone, and couldn't find out a solution. the problem is that now he cannot boot Windows, either (i guess grub has already been installed)
[10:18] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, but i cant even mail something out at all so i guess somethings really wrong
[10:18] <josep_> kde for Ubuntu?
[10:18] <josep_> some1 can help me?
[10:18] <HymnToLife> it seems your ISO get corrupted
[10:18] <josep_> i'm looking for that
[10:18] <LjL> mikebot: this will close your X at once. select No if you don't want that
[10:18] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, no you see your missing the point, you want a front end program that sits on a web server and talks to a data base - break it out and make life easy -you have a big blob of mush in your mind think about the job, google for dovecot squirrelmail and have a look in that space
[10:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> i tried to install grub but i got an erro
[10:18] <HymnToLife> either during the download
[10:18] <mikebot> LjL, what is X?
[10:18] <vook> josep_, whadda need to know?
[10:18] <soundray> kyevan: if you really delved into it, you could also configure an adjustment value for your fast clock.
[10:19] <HymnToLife> or duing the burning
[10:19] <LjL> mikebot: the thing that gives you windows on your screen
[10:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> so what do i do
[10:19] <kyevan> soundray: I have a root shell open right now. The time is off. I need to make it so that either my time stays right, or that sudo doesn't care if I last sudoed in the future
[10:19] <mikebot> LjL, ah, i rather like that
[10:19] <cppnewbie> mikebot: the DE you could say
[10:19] <josep_> i would like to know if exists a KDE for ubuntu
[10:19] <LjL> cppnewbie: no, not really
[10:19] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> do you still have the iso file ?
[10:19] <cppnewbie> in a way
[10:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> '
[10:19] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, well you can always rescue your windows partition so don't freak out.  All you would need is a windows xp cd.  That or you can try to use the www.sysresccd.org cd.  For fixing your ubuntu load lets see.
[10:19] <LjL> cppnewbie: Gnome and KDE are DE's. X isn't
[10:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife
[10:19] <mikebot> LjL, this was probably not a good idea to do
[10:19] <mon> hi i changed some settings for gnome-panel in gconf-editor. appearantly the options are obsolete and the changes aren't used. any other way i can edit gnome-panel settings? (using Dapper)
[10:19] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, you can't mail cos you don't know what your trying to do, is the program even running (ps auwx | grep post) and then more questions, I think go read find out the name of some intresting programs and then check to see if they are in ubuntu,if not move along
[10:19] <soundray> kyevan: shall we do it step by step, then?
[10:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife, its on the computer which i cannot access..
[10:19] <cppnewbie> then whats X's part in DE? theres none? :S
[10:20] <LjL> mikebot: also, that message means that you're *currently* using KDM (which is a KDE thing) as your display manager (i.e. your login screen)
[10:20] <HymnToLife> damn
[10:20] <kyevan> soundray: OK. Lets move to a private session though
[10:20] <vook> josep_, it does, apt-get install kde
[10:20] <ivan> I am a big time newbie and cannot get my palm device to work correctly.
[10:20] <mikebot> LjL, yeah, i treid to change that to gde, i thought i had
[10:20] <LjL> cppnewbie: X does the basic part of it all. it draws windows, and it drives your gfx card
[10:20] <vogel> now i got my ati card to work! weeee:D Tack you fore youre help!
[10:20] <mikebot> LjL, i keep getting errors while this thing uninstalls all this stuff
[10:20] <soundray> vogel: congrats
[10:20] <josep_> ok thank, im going to try
[10:20] <LjL> mikebot: what sort of errors?
[10:20] <benplaut> can someone in Dapper check to see if Blam is broken? it seems so to me, but i want to make sure
[10:20] <kyevan> soundray: hang on, I forgot to regester and stuff
[10:20] <vogel> Thank you!
[10:20] <mikebot> LjL, cannot load image ...
[10:20] <HymnToLife> well, either download a new iso and VERIFY it and burn it at LOW SPEED (4x max)
[10:20] <cppnewbie> so X does all the work while DE's offer the files and settings and so on?
[10:21] <vogel> Linux is fun!
[10:21] <soundray> kyevan: okay, pm me when you're ready.
[10:21] <HymnToLife> or get your hands on a Windows CD to restore the MBR
[10:21] <ivan> does anyone know how to configure a USB palm device with Evolution?
[10:21] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, try to boot using acpi=off
[10:21] <LjL> mikebot: dunno about that. anyway i think the packages being removed are strictly KDE packages, even though i could certainly have missed some
[10:21] <iG-Shoot-Me> chuckyp, how??
[10:21] <cppnewbie> vogel: i cant agree with you, all this Uber-protectiveness is getting on my nerves although its good for me :P
[10:21] <mikebot> LjL, hehe okay, thanks
[10:21] <vook> josep_, here's a tip, when in doubt type "apt-cache search %whatyouaresearchingfor", you may want to add a pipe and less at the end "apt-cache search kde | less"
[10:21] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, ok thanx i guess....
[10:21] <HymnToLife> chuckyp> the initrd install faile
[10:21] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, so when you get the prompt from the ubuntu install cd you would type "linux acpi=off"  then try your install again and see if you get the same initrd-tools error?
[10:21] <HymnToLife> there's no way he can boot
[10:22] <mikebot> LjL, is this completely removing kde, or will it leave like some kde stuff, and i wont be able to unistall it
[10:22] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, been trying to get this work all day so im a bit tired in my head :(
[10:22] <_epp> what is a good p2p client for linux that doesnt need java...
[10:22] <mikebot> LjL, like in windows when you install something and then you delete some files, and in the add/remove program thing you can't remove it because some files are mising
[10:22] <LjL> mikebot: you'll always be able to uninstall it. the only hard part might be *finding* it :)
[10:22] <cppnewbie> so how can i set my partition to not read only? :S
[10:22] <iG-Shoot-Me> instead of just hitting enter?
[10:22] <mikebot> LjL, haha okauy
[10:22] <HymnToLife> _epp> go to a music store and buy CDs :/
[10:22] <LjL> mikebot: anyway, i'm pretty sure that is going to uninstall most/all of KDE
[10:22] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, then it is time for a walk, let the info you have sink in do something different for half an hour, cant see the woods for the trees and come back fresh
[10:22] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, yeah ig but hold on a second.
[10:22] <mikebot> LjL, well either way, it cleaned up my internet folder,which is nice...now i gotta get nicotine working
[10:23] <LjL> mikebot: yeah but you aren't "deleting some files" now, you're actually using a correct uninstallation procedure
[10:23] <mikebot> LjL, oh okay
[10:23] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, yeah something like that i ment by i need a time for myself now :D
[10:23] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, you still here?
[10:23] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, yes
[10:23] <LjL> mikebot: you should never really just "delete some files" in ubuntu anyway. i've almost never seen a clear uninstallation fail
[10:23] <ITS_FOR_REAL> u wanna mess up my head even more? ;)
[10:23] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, go rest
[10:23] <LjL> s/clear/clean
[10:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, hhee
[10:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, im trying to
[10:24] <mikebot> LjL, okay
[10:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> :D
[10:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, have fun cya or something
[10:24] <ompaul> go
[10:25] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, ahh it seems to be a problem with your media that you are installing from possibly.  Do you have access to another burner so you can burn a new installation cd at a slower write speed.
[10:25] <_epp> HymnToLife, if you have nothing to say, dont just make some smartass comment.
[10:25] <HymnToLife> bear with them then...
[10:25] <mikebot> LjL, as for the nicotine installation, it says i need python 2.3 and gtk+ 2.2 and pygtk 1.99.16
[10:25] <mikebot> LjL, can i get those via synaptic?
[10:25] <HymnToLife> people like you make me sick
[10:26] <Munchkinguy> How do I change my permissions for my floppy drive?
[10:26] <HymnToLife> Munchkinguy> edit the line in /etc/Fstab
[10:26] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, don't worry about the acpi thing just burn a new ubuntu cd at like 4x or slower and try to reinstall ubuntu
[10:26] <HymnToLife> setting the umask to whatever the hell you want it to be
[10:26] <_epp> Is there a client exactly like limewire that doesnt need java?
[10:26] <ivan> /dev/ttyUSB1 <--- this is what I am using to get my USB palm, but it wont sync. Is there something I am not doing?
[10:26] <LjL> _epp: ktorrent, apollon, kmldonkey... or for gnome, i guess bittorrent-gui, giftoxik, amule
[10:27] <variant> can anyone tell me what packages i need for a working compile environment in ubuntu?
[10:27] <LjL> variant: build-essential
[10:27] <soundray> variant, build-essential
[10:27] <Munchkinguy> HymnToLife: I don't have /etc/Fstab
[10:27] <Seveas> !tell variant about compiling
[10:27] <variant> thanks, and what about the curses lib? i need to run menuconfig
[10:28] <_epp> LjL, what ones are on the guantilla network?
[10:28] <Seveas> variant, libncurses5-dev
[10:28] <soundray> Munchkinguy: you do. Just use lowercase letters
[10:28] <mikebot> LjL, help
[10:28] <mikebot> LjL, haha
[10:28] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, also make sure you date is set properly in th bios.  It appears that if its set too far back keyring wont install which is required by initrd-tools and you would get the error you are talking about.
[10:28] <HymnToLife> Munchkinguy> my mistake, it's /etc/fstab
[10:28] <variant> thanks guys!
[10:28] <matthias> nabend
[10:28] <lkz> Hi, where do i change the x server startup parameters ? I want to add -br so i dont get the grey screen just before login :-)
[10:28] <enyc> variant: you can use 'apt-get build-dep [package] ' to install the requirements-to-compile a package... can be useful when compiling 'something similar'
[10:28] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, so it could be either of those two date is way off in bios.  or cd is messed up and needs to be burned at a lower speed.  So easiest one to check is the date in bios.
[10:28] <matthias> ger. here?
[10:29] <soundray> Hey, matthias, klingt als wolltest du zu #ubuntu-de
[10:29] <Munchkinguy> Thank you, once more.
[10:29] <mattwestm> what would cause this error and how do I fix it?: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:29] <HymnToLife> lkz> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsercer-xorg
[10:29] <virtualball2> Is there Make2fs on Ubuntu?
[10:29] <LjL> mikebot: what? =)
[10:29] <matthias> @soundray ja.
[10:29] <enyc> virtualball2: mke2fs ;-)
[10:29] <HymnToLife> mattwestm> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:29] <greywolf> hi folks -- i have a fresh hory install that i need to upgrade to breezy -- no apps installed other than the original packages -- i cant find the instructions on the website -- can someone point me in the right direction?
[10:29] <LjL> _epp: the gift ones are (i.e. apollo and giftoxic)
[10:29] <soundray> matthias: /join #ubuntu-de
[10:29] <virtualball2> enyc:  haha thanks!
[10:29] <HymnToLife> !tell greywolf about upgrade
[10:30] <mikebot> LjL, as for the nicotine installation, it says i need python 2.3 and gtk+ 2.2 and pygtk 1.99.16--can i get those via synaptic?
[10:30] <_epp> LjL, are they in APT?
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, done
[10:30] <Seveas> !tell mattwestm about compiling
[10:30] <cppnewbie> so there isnt a way to unset the readonly attribute from a storage device? :S
[10:30] <LjL> _epp: but for something more comprehensive, "apt-cache search gnutella"
[10:30] <soundray> Jimer: and working?
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, running init.d command thing
[10:30] <greywolf> HymnToLife: thank you very much
[10:30] <LjL> _epp: yes they are
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, yay Images !
[10:30] <LjL> mikebot: yup
[10:30] <soundray> Jimer: beoootiful.
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, and lots of options =)
[10:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> FIXED IT!
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, many thanks.
[10:30] <variant> whats the name of the kernel package? ubuntu-kernel or somthing?
[10:30] <mikebot> ljl okay thanks
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> For all of you and future reference.. Want to know how I fixed it?
[10:31] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, why are you excited?
[10:31] <Jimer> soundray, i rebooting to native mode, brb
[10:31] <_epp> LjL, i looked and i cant find them...
[10:31] <HymnToLife> tried to reinstall ?
[10:31] <_epp> LjL, mabey cuz im on a mac?
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> You guys want to know how to fix it if YOU ever crash your computer like that?
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> No
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> What I did
[10:31] <Seveas> iG-Shoot-Me, how did you crash it?
[10:31] <LjL> !tell _epp about repos
[10:31] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, yes how did you fix it?
[10:31] <LjL> _epp: i think you don't have Universe enabled
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> Was when I got to the partition disks thign
[10:32] <HymnToLife> Seveas> his intall faile, bad CD obviously
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> One of htem had a lightning bolt next to it
[10:32] <LjL> mikebot: i think you should get python-gtk2
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> It was like booting from the wrong partition
[10:32] <HymnToLife> meaning it was being formatted if I remeber well
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> I set the lightning bolt on the first partition, the one it was originally on, and i exited the installation
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> And I booted from hard drive
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> and it worked!
[10:32] <variant> nm, i found it thanks
[10:32] <mikebot> LjL, in addition to those other 3?
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> :) :)
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> So there you go
[10:32] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, lmao
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> :D
[10:32] <HymnToLife> oh no, meaning it was bootable
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> lol
[10:33] <_epp> LjL, yeah i do...
[10:33] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, have you tried booting to windows yet?
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> I just did
[10:33] <cppnewbie> rofl
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> Im booted on windows lol
[10:33] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, I thought you problem was during the install.
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> It was!
[10:33] <cppnewbie> lol
[10:33] <LjL> mikebot: no, i think it will install the other three
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> But I decided to try it again
[10:33] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, no it wasn't you problem was during boot if you are able to boot now. to nix.
[10:33] <mikebot> LjL, oh okay, let's see
[10:33] <LjL> mikebot: after all, it's gtk for python. so i assume it will install gtk and python ;)
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> Yes it was
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> It was booting from the wrong partition
[10:33] <ruzgar> is there a program like daemon 32(for making fake cds from isos) in ubuntu?
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> Brb guys, im ging on the other coputer
[10:34] <mikebot> LjL, hehe okay
[10:34] <LjL> _epp: and "apt-cache show apollon" for example doesn't show anything?
[10:34] <HymnToLife> didn't you install to the MBR ?
[10:34] <globe> how do I set up my laptop so that I dont have to restart to use my pcmcia wireless?
[10:34] <soundray> HymnToLife: clearly not ;)
[10:34] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> no need for anything
[10:34] <cppnewbie> any way to set a partition read write? :S
[10:34] <HymnToLife> linux does it natively
[10:34] <LjL> cppnewbie: not an NTFS partition
[10:35] <soundray> globe: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart'
[10:35] <cppnewbie> not really an ntfs partition
[10:35] <ruzgar> HymnToLife i dont understand
[10:35] <ruzgar> how can i make
[10:35] <globe> soundray: does that rescan the pcmcia bus?
[10:35] <ruzgar> double click on them
[10:35] <mikebot> LjL, i alreayd have python-gtk2
[10:35] <LjL> cppnewbie: then it ought to be mounted read/write by default, most of the time
[10:35] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> sudo mount /pah/to/your/file.iso /mount/point
[10:35] <cppnewbie> how do i remove the read-only attribute on the partition? :S
[10:35] <LjL> cppnewbie: though only root might have write access
[10:35] <ruzgar> ohh really ?
[10:35] <diogo> Greetings! What if I want to upgrade only the XFree-related  packages from Breezy to Dapper just to check if DRI support for my chip has been added?!
[10:35] <nekohayo> does anyone know how to reset the gnome menus? I'd like to clean up what I did with smeg / alacarte
[10:35] <ruzgar> that is very good
[10:35] <cppnewbie> ah i didnt think of that
[10:35] <ruzgar> thanks a lot
[10:35] <_epp> LjL, yeah...  i though it was apollo, not apollon. But i still cant find giftoxic
[10:36] <LjL> cppnewbie: hmm i don't think chmod will work with that, i think you should pass "-o rw" or something while mounting
[10:36] <LjL> !tell cppnewbie about ntfs
[10:36] <soundray> globe: it used to, but it might have changed. The other thing you can try is '/etc/init.d/hotplug restart'
[10:36] <globe> soundray: thanks
[10:36] <LjL> cppnewbie: i've understood it's not ntfs, but that howto does show some mount parameters that might be of help
[10:37] <LjL> _epp: it's there. and the spelling is the one you used right now, i.e. "giftoxic", one t
[10:37] <soundray> diogo: don't do that, it'll be more trouble than upgrading everything.
[10:37] <soundray> diogo: and you won't be able to go back, except from backup.
[10:38] <cppnewbie> how do i UNMOUNT whats in mnt now? :S
[10:38] <saif> hello, i was told to do this: "You also need to make the additional step of adding bcml43xx to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist so that the driver isn't autmatically added into the kernel at boot."
[10:38] <soundray> cppnewbie: 'sudo umount /mnt/*'
[10:38] <saif> but how do i do it?
[10:38] <mgpalmer> Ive got a question...Ive got an apache server installed and want to use ddclient to update dyndns with my ip, which works fine. i also can run ddclient as a daemon, BUT the thing is i want the ddclient daemon to start automatically when my system boots so i cant forget it. how would i go about this ?
[10:38] <diogo> soundray: Tks. I really wouldn't like to do that, then. What else could I do to get a newer XFree or at least support for 3D accel on my chip?
[10:39] <LjL> _epp: note that giFT is not gnutella-only. it's a library based on plugins, which can support various networks (including gnutella). giftoxic is a frontend, i think you'll also have to install libgnutella-gift if it's not there by default
[10:39] <soundray> saif: have you edited a file before?
[10:39] <vogel> how do I do to get Shockwave?
[10:39] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, althought I ve enabled the multiverse repository, apt can t find java-package. Any idea what to do next?
[10:39] <LjL> _epp: an apt-cache search tells me that you could also try gtk-gnutella
[10:39] <dle> Hi. I just swapped in an SB-Live for my soundcard. What do I need to do to reconfig. the sound system to use it?
[10:39] <cppnewbie> umount: directory/file : not mounted <-- wtf
[10:39] <soundray> vogel: convince Macromedia (now part of Adobe) to support it.
[10:39] <me2win>  m_0_r_0_n did you apt-get update??
[10:39] <sirtode> Hey, can anyone tell me how to get something called "build"?
[10:40] <nekohayo> m_0_r_0_n: you're maybe looking for j2re something or jre ?
[10:40] <tritium> sirtode: you ben build-essential?
[10:40] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> sudo umout /dev/sdaX
[10:40] <ice-thc> gn8
[10:40] <saif> soundray, what do u mean edited?? like gedit a file?! what dile?
[10:40] <me2win> sirtode, build-essential
[10:40] <HymnToLife> umount
[10:40] <tritium> s/ben/mean ;)
[10:40] <sirtode> ok, I'll check that out, thanks
[10:40] <LjL> mikebot: hold on a second, why is it *asking* you for those packages? "sudo aptitude install nicotine" should *automatically* get any packages it needs
[10:40] <cppnewbie> not an sda, its an iso i mounted on /mnt/
[10:40] <vogel> Hmm, boring!
[10:40] <me2win> !build-essential
[10:40] <m_0_r_0_n> me2win, yes I did
[10:40] <ubotu> hmm... build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[10:40] <HymnToLife> on /mnt/ ??
[10:40] <soundray> diogo: what's your graphics card?
[10:40] <cppnewbie> ya
[10:40] <nekohayo> does anyone know how to reset the gnome menus? I'd like to clean up what I did with smeg / alacarte
[10:41] <soundray> saif: yes, like open a file in gedit
[10:41] <m_0_r_0_n> I am reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport to install Sun Java
[10:41] <funkyHat> dle, system > preferences > sounds, choose the soundcard there
[10:41] <mikebot> LjL, i didn't try typing you that...i was looking at their website
[10:41] <diogo> soundray: $ lspci | grep VGA
[10:41] <diogo> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266] 
[10:41] <dle> funkyHat: That sounds refreshingly simple.  Let me try that. :)
[10:41] <Jimmer> soundray, now Gnome wont start
[10:41] <saif> soundray, yes, i found it! :) i just need to add the line blacklist bcml43xx to the file?
[10:41] <Jimmer> * Starting Gnome Display Manager ... [ FAIL ] 
[10:42] <dle> funkyHat: Except that no cards are listed there.
[10:42] <soundray> saif, yes
[10:42] <funkyHat> dle, ah... crap
[10:42] <Jimmer> soundray, also XServer disabled itself
[10:42] <funkyHat> dle, there really should be...
[10:42] <saif> soundray, cool! :) i thought it's be somethn more complicated! thanx!
[10:42] <sad_> nekohayo: delete ~/.config/menus
[10:42] <biloyp> damn it's nice to be able to print in linux
[10:42] <nekohayo> sad_: will try, thanks
[10:42] <mikebot> !paste
[10:42] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:42] <cppnewbie> ugh my head... all these parameters and this hassle.... seems like i shouldve stayed on windows lol :P although linux offers increased capability now i cant understand stuff thats fundamental :'( so i cant umount /mnt/ why is that? :S
[10:43] <me2win> cppnewbie, did you mount something on /mnt?
[10:43] <ompaul> cppnewbie, sudo umount
[10:43] <cppnewbie> yea me2win
[10:43] <cppnewbie> but now it says device busy or something and im not using it anywhere
[10:43] <me2win> you probably mounted something on /mnt/something
[10:43] <me2win> but not /mnt
[10:43] <soundray> Jimmer, 2 min...
[10:43] <mgpalmer> heh cppnewbie, i feel like you...just think of linux not as an OS but a puzzle game
[10:44] <mikebot> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9771
[10:44] <Jimmer> soundray, Ok
[10:44] <variant> i /redraw
[10:44] <cppnewbie> not really, when i cd to mnt theres the thing i mounted w00t :D
[10:44] <djm62> cd ..
[10:44] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> What if you unse it on your ISO file ?
[10:44] <mikebot> LjL, oh, i had synaptic open
[10:44] <variant> i installed all the build-essential packages etc but i get an error running make menuconfig
[10:44] <variant> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[10:44] <cppnewbie> never tried
[10:44] <stian> How do I go about to install this app? http://everythinglinux.org/TkApache/ (newbie)
[10:44] <variant> anyone know whats causing that? surely build-essential contains gcc?
[10:44] <HymnToLife> variant> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[10:45] <cppnewbie> ah got it
[10:45] <mgpalmer> is there an extra channel for beginner's questions ?
[10:45] <cppnewbie> it was simply sudo umount /mnt/ lol :D
[10:45] <LjL> mikebot: have no worries, the package from the repository will install and it will install the required python and gtk stuff. just tried
[10:45] <Coag> variant: it doesn't contain gcc-3.4 though
[10:45] <Coag> it contains gcc-4 last I checked
[10:45] <variant> HymnToLife: thanks, Coag too
[10:45] <HymnToLife> variant> it contains another version of gcc
[10:45] <variant> ok thanks
[10:45] <stian> does anyone have a program that i can monitor connections on my apache server with?
[10:45] <variant> great its working now thankyou
[10:45] <mikebot> LjL, haha, when i opened it i got: Failed to load image keditbookmarks.xpm
[10:45] <mikebot> Details: Icon not found
[10:46] <tatters> webalizer?
[10:46] <chuckyp> stian, webalizer
[10:46] <LjL> mikebot: uh, that looks suspiciously like a KDE file... though i have no clue why nicotine (which is not even a KDE program) would bother with it. hold on
[10:47] <diogo> Meanwhile, how do I 'correctly' upgrade from Breezy to Dapper using a CD for example? Do I apt-cdrom and then 'aptitude upgrade' or 'aptitude dist-upgrade'?
[10:47] <mgpalmer> Question: If my question isn't answered, is it considered rude to re-post it in reasonable intervals ?
[10:47] <chuckyp> LjL, kde programs should work in gnome and vice versa
[10:47] <stian> webalizer... i was thinking of something monitoring live
[10:47] <LjL> mikebot: that file belongs to Konqueror. why nicotine would care about Konqueror is beyond me
[10:47] <stian> not something that generates stats
[10:47] <LjL> chuckyp: yeah, that's not the point though
[10:47] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, what is your question?
[10:47] <mgpalmer> Ive got a question...Ive got an apache server installed and want to use ddclient to update dyndns with my ip, which works fine. i also can run ddclient as a daemon, BUT the thing is i want the ddclient daemon to start automatically when my system boots so i cant forget it. how would i go about this ?
[10:47] <variant> mgpalmer: try rephrasing it a lot though :)
[10:47] <HymnToLife> LjL> obviously it does
[10:48] <LjL> HymnToLife: if it really does, then that package is broken.
[10:48] <mgpalmer> im shure there are several methods
[10:48] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, are you talking about dhclient?
[10:48] <ruzgar> how can i close a man page in console
[10:48] <mikebot> LjL, haha okay, that's fine
[10:48] <mgpalmer> no, its called ddclient
[10:48] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, nm i'm retarded
[10:48] <mikebot> LjL, did you install it?
[10:48] <HymnToLife> well, why would it want to install KDE stuff otherwise ?
[10:48] <tolkan> ruzgar-=: q will close it
[10:48] <LjL> mikebot: yes, and it runs
[10:48] <sirtode> ok, so build-essential is actually installed, but this thing apparently wants an executable called build, which doesn't exist.
[10:48] <LjL> HymnToLife: it doesn't
[10:48] <ruzgar> ok thanks
[10:48] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well there are several ways you can do it.  Is ddclient a daemon?
[10:48] <variant> sirtode: what are you trying to do?
[10:48] <mikebot> LjL, were you able to connect to a server?
[10:48] <tatters> what is it you want to moniotor exactly?
[10:49] <sirtode> trying to do a make on a driver for my mouse
[10:49] <HymnToLife> 10 seconds ago you were saying it does:/
[10:49] <soundray> diogo: for dapper, it's best to get advice in #ubuntu+1 . About your graphics card -- sorry, I can't find any indication of 3D support having been added in dapper.
[10:49] <variant> sirtode: its probably looking for the /build/ directory.. try compiling your kernel once and that shoud create it
[10:49] <LjL> HymnToLife: it doesn't try to install anything KDE, but apparently it fails to start complaining about a "keditbookmark.xpm" file, which i've found to belong to Konqueror
[10:49] <LjL> mikebot: haven't tried
[10:49] <variant> sirtode: thats exactly what the problem is then
[10:49] <HymnToLife> blah
[10:49] <cppnewbie> LjL in that mswindows partition stuff it only says stuff about fat16|32 , ntfs and apple partitions. no fat alone
[10:49] <mikebot> LjL, okay
[10:49] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, ?
[10:49] <HymnToLife> it's just an icon file
[10:49] <sirtode> ahh, k, thanks
[10:49] <mgpalmer> chukyp: im not exactly shure what that is, but it has an paramater -daemon, and when i use it thataway, it stays as a process(?)
[10:49] <soundray> Jimmer, can you log in on a text console?
[10:49] <ruzgar> HymnToLife what is type of .iso file
[10:49] <variant> sirtode: install the kernel package and make oldconfig && make
[10:49] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, k
[10:49] <LjL> mikebot, HymnToLife: by the way, while i do have that file installed myself, it doesn't appear like nicotine is trying to load it here
[10:49] <Jimmer> soundray, yes
[10:49] <ruzgar> mount need a type
[10:50] <sirtode> is there a good howto on doing that? I'm not proficient with this.
[10:50] <greeceis> Hi all,
[10:50] <LjL> mikebot: have you restarted X since you uninstalled KDE?
[10:50] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well when you are launching it to update your dyndns how are you launching it?
[10:50] <Jimmer> soundray, xserver is disabled and the im shot back to breezy
[10:50] <LjL> mikebot: perhaps you should.
[10:50] <greeceis> got a question
[10:50] <soundray> Jimmer, and what does it say when you run X (capital again)?
[10:50] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> type ? you mean the FS type ?
[10:50] <mikebot> LjL, no
[10:50] <variant> sirtode: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build is that the error you get?
[10:50] <mikebot> LjL, okay, how do i do that? ctrl+alt+backspace?
[10:50] <HymnToLife> it's iso9660 but normally you won't need to specify it
[10:50] <LjL> mikebot: yeah
[10:50] <variant> sirtode: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29
[10:50] <stian> how do i monitor my apache server and the connections on it "live"?
[10:50] <mikebot> LjL, and if i only et a command prompt, how can i get back to gnome?
[10:50] <greeceis> I forgot how to change my config files on a HD once I have booted from a CD.
[10:50] <globe_> soundray: if I put a wireless card in and then restart pcmcia  will the device mount to an eth port?
[10:50] <ruzgar> i dont understand i'll enter the code correctly
[10:50] <Jimmer> soundray, X server is now disabled. Run GDM when its configured proberly
[10:50] <mikebot> LjL, last time i was stuck in command prompts, i had to reinstall
[10:50] <sirtode> yep
[10:51] <greeceis> You see I can't see the HD when I boot by CD.
[10:51] <LjL> mikebot: hmm hold on a second
[10:51] <ruzgar> but i doesnt works
[10:51] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: with ./ddclient , the parameters are in a conf file...its supposed to auto check the ip every 5 mins, but i cant check that
[10:51] <LjL> mikebot: try "apt-cache policy gdm", does it say it's installed?
[10:51] <cppnewbie> how is fat filesystem called in linux? vfat or vfat is another thing? :S
[10:51] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> error message ?
[10:51] <LjL> cppnewbie: vfat
[10:51] <cppnewbie> aha
[10:51] <sirtode> thanks mang
[10:51] <stian> yo?
[10:51] <mikebot> LjL, apt-cache policy gdm
[10:51] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well if you start it that way try doing this to see if its still running "ps aux | grep ddclient
[10:51] <mikebot> yikes
[10:51] <soundray> globe_, that depends on the driver. It can be ethX or something else. Find out with ifconfig -a
[10:51] <LjL> mikebot: ?
[10:51] <mikebot> LjL, Installed: 2.8.0.5-0ubuntu1
[10:51] <LjL> mikebot: ok
[10:52] <mikebot> LjL, ctrlaltbackspace?
[10:52] <mgpalmer> it is, i checked that, the only trouble is that it doesnt start with a system boot
[10:52] <LjL> mikebot: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm", and make sure it's selected as default
[10:52] <soundray> Jimmer: I mean, run 'X' again.
[10:52] <HymnToLife> mikebot> what if you run gdm then ?
[10:52] <Jimmer> soundray, thats whta i did
[10:52] <cppnewbie> --->/media/sdc1 is not a block device <--- what does this mean? :S
[10:52] <globe_> soundray: yea...after restarting pcmcia and/or hotplug, the only device listed in ifconfig is loopback
[10:52] <mikebot> HymnToLife, sorry?
[10:52] <MisterN> n8
[10:52] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, okay well find the directory that its installed to where you go to type ./ddclient then you would just add it to rc.local
[10:52] <LjL> mikebot: and, no, no ctrl+alt+backspace. i don't think that would be good given you changed display manager
[10:52] <Jimmer> soundray, X server is now disabled. Run GDM when its configured proberly
[10:52] <soundray> globe_, ifconfig *-a*
[10:52] <ruzgar> HymnToLife i solve the problem
[10:52] <mikebot> LjL, okay..it says this..i don't know if it's default...
[10:52] <mgpalmer> and where do i find this rc.local ?
[10:52] <sad_> cppnewbie: i think you should use /dev/sdc1
[10:52] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, like "echo /usr/local/bin/ddclient > rc.local
[10:52] <ruzgar> it want -o paramet
[10:53] <cppnewbie> aha
[10:53] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, okay hold up
[10:53] <greeceis> How can I find my HD from a bootable CD?
[10:53] <mikebot> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9772
[10:53] <mgpalmer> also, what does it do ? itd like to understand what im doing
[10:53] <HymnToLife> greeceis> > mount it...
[10:53] <Jimmer> soundray, Fatal Error /n No screens found
[10:53] <HymnToLife> sudo fdisk -l to get the partition name
[10:53] <greeceis> mount it how?
[10:53] <LjL> mikebot: hmm do this -- but wait before doing it
[10:53] <HymnToLife> and then mount ot mount it
[10:53] <LjL> mikebot: type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop". X should shut down. you will be in a text terminal. login there, and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[10:54] <soundray> Jimmer: please run 'tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log'. Any sensible error messages there.
[10:54] <soundray> ?
[10:54] <LjL> mikebot: *if that does not work*, type again "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and select it as default.
[10:54] <globe_> soundray: yea....
[10:54] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, rc.local executes whatever you put in it after all system processes are loaded on boot.
[10:54] <greeceis> hold on
[10:54] <stian> how do i monitor my apache server and the connections on it "live"
[10:54] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, the echo command just writes to the laste line of the file.
[10:54] <mgpalmer> ah, kinda like the autostart folder on windows
[10:54] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, yes
[10:54] <LjL> mikebot: if you still can't load X (which shouldn't really happen), you can type "irssi", then "/server irc.freenode.org", then "/join #ubuntu", and you will be back here
[10:54] <mikebot> LjL, yikes i gotta write all this down
[10:54] <Jimmer> soundray, (EE): No devices attached
[10:54] <XiCillin> is there some line in perl that will let me tar -xzvf ever .tar.gz archive in a directory?
[10:54] <XiCillin> every*
[10:54] <LjL> mikebot: yeah probably. or, even --
[10:55] <Jimmer> soundray, i dont know if it matters, but i put added a new gfx since..
[10:55] <tatters> stian: iweblizer is live enough surely, if you google around youll find lots of applications for your siteyou can get a little bell go off when someone connects and see in real time where they go what they do  buts it case of scouring for free web apps theres tons off them    not linus specific but web specific
[10:55] <LjL> mikebot: press ctrl+alt+f1 now. that will get you to a terminal (you can use alt+f7 to get back here). type "irssi" and what follows right now, so you see that you can connect to here from a terminal
[10:55] <cppnewbie> is vfat a readonly filesystem? :S
[10:55] <LjL> cppnewbie: no
[10:55] <soundray> Jimmer: that is indeed a showstopper.
[10:55] <lwelyn> somebody know how i can minimize a graphical pplication? ( ut2004 for example )
[10:55] <chuckyp> cppnewbie, no only if you tell it to be
[10:55] <variant> cppnewbie: no
[10:56] <Jimmer> soundray, oh is changing/adding hardware bad ?
[10:56] <cppnewbie> i didnt tell it to be, how can i... "untell" it? :S :p
[10:56] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: i did a find on rc.local and there seems to be no such file...
[10:56] <HymnToLife> chuckyp> wrong
[10:56] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[10:56] <mikebot> LjL, okay, one sec
[10:56] <HymnToLife> if you une the default parameters, it's read only
[10:56] <HymnToLife> and only by root
[10:56] <soundray> Jimmer: well, you can't expect the configuration that the installer makes for one card to work on another just like that.
[10:56] <Jimmer> plug n play :( ?
[10:56] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, errr not right hold up
[10:57] <cppnewbie> so how can i mount it as not read only? thats my prob
[10:57] <danc3> cppnewbie: man mount
[10:57] <me2win> cppnewbie, hold while i get you the page
[10:57] <Jimmer> soundray, how do we tell the configuration =) ?
[10:57] <soundray> Jimmer: has nothing to do with graphics cards.
[10:57] <Jimmer> soundray, oh ?
[10:57] <HymnToLife> !tell cppnewbie about ntfs
[10:57] <HymnToLife> it's in here for ft too
[10:57] <homosapian> thanks for what everyone is doing..... ubuntu rocks
[10:57] <HymnToLife> fat*
[10:57] <me2win> cppnewbie, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:57] <cppnewbie> *cough cough* hymntolife i never saw anything like that in there
[10:57] <HymnToLife> !ubuntuguide
[10:57] <diogo> soundray: thanks anyway man! So... What would you do if you just needed 3D accel support for a card that's still not supported in breezy but you know it's supported on the latest Xfree code?
[10:57] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:58] <LjL> !ubuntuguide
[10:58] <soundray> Jimmer, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and answer the questions as well as you can.
[10:58] <XiCillin> i would you tar -xzvf every .tar.gz archive in a directory at once>?
[10:58] <LjL> ops
[10:58] <HymnToLife> owned LjL :p
[10:58] <michael__> LjL: beautiful
[10:58] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, do you have /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[10:58] <variant> XiCillin: tar -xzvf *.tar.gz
[10:58] <ompaul> LjL, sup?
[10:58] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, i'm not in ubuntu right now and i'm not sure how they are doing it.
[10:58] <diogo> soundray: sorry for these many questions, but i'm in trouble... i MUST get my wife's favorite game running on our PC or i'll have to install M$ Window$ here... :o/
[10:58] <XiCillin> variant, doesn't work for some reason
[10:58] <cppnewbie> where would i put user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0 if i used the mount command ? :S
[10:58] <LjL> HymnToLife: i try to refrain from re-requesting other people's factoids, but this time i just didn't notice
[10:58] <Jimmer> soundray, its asking for drivers
[10:58] <variant> XiCillin: works here
[10:59] <sad_> diogo: which game is that?
[10:59] <michael__> LjL: okay, so now should i get back to the windows and do all that terminal kdm stop stuff?
[10:59] <tritium> cppnewbie: /etc/fstab
[10:59] <HymnToLife> haha, np ;)
[10:59] <LjL> ompaul: nothing, i just requested a factoid that HymnToLife requested one second before :)
[10:59] <LjL> michael__: you're from irssi now?
[10:59] <soundray> Jimmer: muddle your way through, or rerun the install CD.
[10:59] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: no there isnt
[10:59] <Jimmer> soundray, i have nVidia GeForce 4MX
[10:59] <michael__> LjL: yeah, but i only did the ctrlaltf7 thing, i didn't restart anything yet
[10:59] <Jimmer> soundray, it gives me the option for nVidia... but thats it
[10:59] <XiCillin> i get 'tar: twilite.tar.gz: not found in archive for everything
[10:59] <yuri_> hello, does anyone know a prog that will bruteforce a .rar archive for linux?
[10:59] <cppnewbie> tritium its not listed in there
[10:59] <soundray> Jimmer: search the wiki.
[10:59] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: I DO have some folders in /etc called rc0d - rc6.d
[10:59] <chuckyp> LjL, how is ubuntu using rc.local where is it at basically. I'm not in ubuntu and mgpalmer needs to know where it is at.
[10:59] <soundray> !nvidia
[10:59] <LjL> michael__: just press alt+f2, you'll be in another terminal. type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" there
[10:59] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:00] <tritium> cppnewbie: which?  the partition you're trying to mount?
[11:00] <LjL> michael__: alt+f1 will get you back to irssi
[11:00] <michael__> LjL: okay, brb
[11:00] <cppnewbie> ya
[11:00] <ompaul> LjL,  can you use a two letter >o< in that case, I thought there was a problem :-)
[11:00] <LjL> ompaul: oh... sorry
[11:00] <tritium> LjL: or, simply "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart"
[11:00] <HymnToLife> what annoys me on cppnewbie's thing
[11:00] <ompaul> LjL, your okay I am tired :-) np
[11:01] <LjL> tritium: he doesn't have kdm anymore :)
[11:01] <HymnToLife> is that USB drives were always automatically mounted for me
[11:01] <mrproper> Is there a tutorial on how to setup a printer using Samba (client, not server).
[11:01] <LjL> tritium: (not that it sounds so much simpler to me anyway ;)
[11:01] <soundray> diogo: I reckon setting up xfree86 in dapper is very difficult. But if xfree supports it, xorg will, too, soon.
[11:01] <Jimmer> soundray, pci:2:0:0 ?
[11:01] <michael__> LjL: shit, it had a menu with a [yes]  and [no]  thing, but i altf1'd out of it
[11:01] <LjL> michael__: err... what had what? sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm had that?
[11:01] <tritium> LjL: oh, didn't catch the small change of display manager there :)
[11:01] <ompaul> michael__, language please
[11:01] <cppnewbie> well hymntolife join the club. they automount in here as well but i cant write to them
[11:01] <michael__> ompaul: sorry
[11:01] <ompaul> k
[11:01] <michael__> LjL: when i did the gdm start, it opened the config thing and said yes/no
[11:02] <tritium> michael__: language, please
[11:02] <michael__> LjL: but right when it popped up i alt+f1'd
[11:02] <Madpilot> hi all
[11:02] <LjL> michael__: what exactly did it ask? (you should be able to check again with alt+f2)
[11:02] <HymnToLife> do you have a line about the drive in your /etc/Fstab ?
[11:02] <michael__> tritium: alright
[11:02] <microhard> how tp upgrade to ff 1.5?
[11:02] <LjL> !tell microhard about ff1.5
[11:02] <ompaul> Madpilot, hi
[11:02] <michael__> LjL: no, alt+f2 goes back to a terminal, and i can't run the gdm start thing again because i guess it's already running
[11:02] <soundray> Jimmer: the clean thing to do is install ubuntu again with that new card, and read the wiki links on nvidia.
[11:02] <cppnewbie> no hymntolife nothing about it is in
[11:03] <LjL> michael__: what about ctrl+alt+f7? do you have X running there?
[11:03] <michael__> LjL: yeah, f7 goes back to the windows
[11:03] <HymnToLife> that's friggin weird
[11:03] <mgpalmer> A simple question: "sudo command" is supposed to run command as root right ? but when i do this, it asks for my root password (that seems reasonable) but doesnt accept my actual root PW
[11:03] <LjL> michael__: so nothing has been stopped yet i guess
[11:03] <djp> anyone know why when ubuntu boots, it says found alsa card 0 and found alsa card 1?
[11:03] <soundray> mgpalmer: no, it asks for your user password.
[11:03] <michael__> LjL: i'm going to stop gdm and then start it again
[11:03] <LjL> michael__: ok try again "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" and look carefully what it says
[11:03] <sad_> mgpalmer: it's your users password
[11:03] <michael__> LjL: alright, brb
[11:03] <LjL> michael__: i think you currently have *kdm* running, not gdm
[11:04] <microhard> igged his ass
[11:04] <microhard> gnome
[11:04] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, there is update-rc.d but not quite sure if thats what we are looking for.
[11:04] <michael__> ljlbut it looks like gdmLjL: ghehe okay, well
[11:04] <LjL> michael__: uh, what looks like gdm?
[11:04] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, don't know how well it will handle ddclient but you could give it a try.
[11:04] <Jimmer> soundray, done
[11:04] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: ill look into that and come back
[11:04] <michael__> LjL: the windows and stuff...it is the brown theme with the applications and system and places menus
[11:04] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, "update-rc.d <pathto>/ddclient" substitute the pathto
[11:04] <Jimmer> soundray, X now works
[11:05] <Jimmer> soundray, xstart = command not found (though)
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: and my right click doesn't have like 1,000 options
[11:05] <LjL> michael__: that's Gnome, not GDM
[11:05] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, and if you want to remove it update-rc.d <pathto>/ddclient remove
[11:05] <nickrud> chuckyp: no, that's not right 
[11:05] <soundray> Jimmer: that's because there is no command "xstart"
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: ah okay, it thought they were the same thing
[11:05] <_epp> apollon and giFToxic wont connect to the net....
[11:05] <LjL> michael__: so you were actually still using KDE before?
[11:05] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, okay thats not right then.
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: i tried kde for a little
[11:05] <microhard> i love kde
[11:05] <chuckyp> nickrud, okay where the hell is rc.local in ubuntu?
[11:05] <LjL> michael__: yeah but i mean "before" as in "five minutes ago"
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: i don't follow that question
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: i was not running kde today
[11:06] <Jimmer> soundray, startx :P
[11:06] <chuckyp> nickrud, or similiar way for him to launch ddclient on boot?
[11:06] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, you still there.
[11:06] <Jimmer> soundray, that command appears to have worked
[11:06] <_epp> LjL, have you actually used giFZToxic and apollon?
[11:06] <mgpalmer> ya
[11:06] <nickrud> chuckyp: update-rc.d controls init scripts; it's used to create links in /etc/rc[0-6] .d from /etc/init.d
[11:06] <LjL> michael__: well you're saying brown theme, system and places etc... so i assumed you were used to seeing something different
[11:06] <microhard> kde is bit better then gnome
[11:06] <funkyHat> How can I use john to crack a single md5 encoded password (that isn't from passwd or shadow)?
[11:06] <LjL> _epp: only apollon, as i'm a KDE user
[11:06] <sad_> microhard: each his own
[11:06] <michael__> LjL: well i've seen kde before, it's blue default, right?
[11:06] <LjL> _epp: and yes it does connect
[11:06] <johnmournahan> can someone help setting up tv card
[11:06] <mgpalmer> k, you got me a bit confused now
[11:06] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, yeah it would need to be in init.d nevermind let me keep hunting for a way to do it.
[11:06] <djp> anyone know why, when i boot, it appears that 2 soundcards are loaded? it reports... found alsa 0 AND found alsa 1? is that normal?
[11:06] <LjL> michael__: yeah. anyway. let's do it all again
[11:06] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, the problem is i'm not in ubuntu right now.
[11:06] <microhard> same here except no kde with 5.10
[11:06] <michael__> LjL: haha okay
[11:06] <_epp> LjL, i installed gift... but it doesnt connect..
[11:06] <soundray> djp: if you have two soundcards, yes.
[11:07] <tritium> djp: do you have an onboard sound chip, as well as a sound card?
[11:07] <johnmournahan> how do u install a tv card
[11:07] <LjL> michael__: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop", and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop". do both
[11:07] <nickrud> mgpalmer: a moment, I've done that
[11:07] <mgpalmer> well init.d seems to kinda an autostart folder, my apache has its start script there too and it starts fine on boot
[11:07] <michael__> LjL: should i just go stop both kdm and gdm, then start gdm?
[11:07] <michael__> LjL: okay
[11:07] <LjL> _epp: have you installed libgnutella-gift too?
[11:07] <Jimmer> soundray, Starting GNOME Display Manager ... [ FAILED ] 
[11:07] <LjL> michael__: after you've stopped them, check with alt+f7 that nothing is running
[11:07] <mgpalmer> i think there is also an ddclient script in init.d but that seems to do nothing
[11:07] <nickrud> mgpalmer: exactly, that's how linux controls main startup stuff.
[11:07] <djp> soundray, i do have 2 soundcards, but the soundcard built into my motherboard is disabled in my bios... would it still be reported on boot even if disabled?
[11:07] <funkyHat> djp, if you have an onboard soundcard, or a webcam with a microphone
[11:08] <HymnToLife> off to bed, good night people :)
[11:08] <tritium> djp: not if it's disabled, no
[11:08] <ketchup> hello ubuntu people!
[11:08] <ompaul> night
[11:08] <_epp> LjL, yes...
[11:08] <michael__> LjL: okay, stopped both, but when i do alt+f7 is till see windows...
[11:08] <soundray> djp: yes, if your BIOS makes a poor job of disabling it.
[11:08] <microhard> dual sound here
[11:08] <djp> funkyHat, ah... thanks! i have just installed a webcam with a mic, that would be that then! cheers
[11:08] <chuckyp> nickrud, don't they use a similiar rc.local file for startup of user stuff after all processes have been loaded?
[11:08] <LjL> michael__: uh... do you just see them, or can you actually use the desktop?
[11:08] <LjL> michael__: (that's weird)
[11:08] <ketchup> new to ubuntu world!
[11:08] <_epp> LjL, it says its connected  but it finds nothing.
[11:08] <tritium> welcome, ketchup
[11:08] <variant> tritium: depends on the bios.. you can disable the hard disk in some bios and still see it with a live cd
[11:08] <ketchup> thx tritium
[11:09] <tritium> variant: true enough...
[11:09] <michael__> LjL: well i'm using xddm or whatever that mp3 player is called, and i can still here msuic
[11:09] <LjL> _epp: tried searching something very obviously common?
[11:09] <michael__> LjL: and i just closed the irc chat client in it, so yeah, i can use it
[11:09] <LjL> michael__: duh...
[11:09] <nickrud> chuckyp: no. There's /etc/rcS.d/bootmisc.sh you can invoke things from. mgpalmer what you're tring to do is get ddclient to update your ip automatically, right?
[11:09] <mgpalmer> back to the sudo thing: when i start something with it and then giove my username password, it just does nothing
[11:09] <ketchup> lol
[11:09] <mgpalmer> nickrud: no
[11:09] <chuckyp> nickrud, no he's trying to get it just to launch on boot
[11:09] <mgpalmer> nickrud: im trying to get the ddclient daemon to start on system boot
[11:09] <variant> mgpalmer: type sudo su (it ask for password not username)
[11:09] <_epp> Ljl, is porn a good key to search for.. lol
[11:09] <LjL> michael__: we can't kill the stupid window manager =)
[11:10] <Sandreas> how does wget indicate if a file has been incompletely downloaded?
[11:10] <ompaul> ketchup, if you want there is a doc that may save you looking in the wrong places for stuff wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic it explains why you look in your distro for _all_ your answers
[11:10] <LjL> _epp: i would guess so =)
[11:10] <_epp> LjL, should be common enough
[11:10] <nickrud> ok, I've gotten it reinstalled, I'll see what the docs say
[11:10] <ketchup> is it private msg when font is in red?
[11:10] <michael__> LjL: haha there's no way to?
[11:10] <variant> Sandreas: wget -c to continue
[11:10] <soundray> variant: don't advise people to use sudo su. sudo -i is safer.
[11:10] <tritium> ketchup: no
[11:10] <vogel> how install deb files?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> ketchup: no it means someons said your name
[11:10] <LjL> michael__: yeah, "sudo killall kdm" if you're out of patience
[11:10] <variant> soundray: if you like
[11:10] <gnomefreak> someone*
[11:10] <ketchup> nice :)
[11:10] <michael__> LjL: okay
[11:10] <chuckyp> nickrud, so he could just "echo <pathto>/ddclient > /etc/rcS.d/bootmisc.sh
[11:10] <ompaul> ketchup, no it is typically your name so all else is black and you can tell when someone is talking to you
[11:10] <_epp> LjL, mabey restart giFT daemon?
[11:10] <LjL> michael__: (or "sudo killall gdm", whatever it is)
[11:10] <vook> hmm, my screen blanks after about 60 seconds while on battery.  Anyone know of a gnome gui app that can control acpi settings, in the screensaver dialog, I have screen blanking set to 10 minutes.
[11:10] <ketchup> a few days ago i burned my cpu
[11:11] <soundray> variant: it's not a matter of what I like ;)
[11:11] <variant> yes it is..
[11:11] <michael__> LjL: "There already appears to be an X server running..."
[11:11] <sirtode> ok, went to the howto to compile a kernel, and following the directions, it can't find the source package. What source package should I be downloading for ubuntu 5.10?
[11:11] <ketchup> i tried to find the problem during all this WE
[11:11] <LjL> _epp: perhaps. you sure your giftoxic is actually configured for *using* the gnutella network? i think i had to take some additional steps with apollon
[11:11] <vogel> deb files how to install?
[11:11] <djp> mgpalmer sudo update-rc.d ddclient defaults
[11:11] <michael__> LjL: is says that on alt+f7
[11:11] <tritium> ketchup: so now you have a fried chip?  mmm...ketchup and chips
[11:11] <LjL> michael__: so no windows anymore?
[11:11] <michael__> LjL: and my music stoped ;(
[11:11] <michael__> LjL: correct
[11:11] <vogel> !deb
[11:11] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[11:11] <LjL> michael__: ok, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[11:11] <sixhat> vogel, dpkg -i domedebfile.deb
[11:11] <variant> soundray: i guess it is more secure
[11:11] <ketchup> tritium: as u say :p
[11:12] <IdleOne> vogel>  dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:12] <tritium> ketchup: so I assume you're using a different computer?
[11:12] <_epp> LjL, any idea what you did?
[11:12] <soundray> variant: and you know you're using the root env, rather than the user's.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> i686 is 64bit right?
[11:12] <variant> true
[11:12] <soundray> gnomefreak: no.
[11:12] <mgpalmer> djp: root@Neuromancer:/etc/init.d# update-rc.d ddclient defaults
[11:12] <mgpalmer>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/ddclient already exist.
[11:12] <ketchup> tritium: i finally detected that it was the cpu, i mixed thermal paste with thermal pad
[11:12] <michael__> LjL: okay, it restarted and i logged in, but i got some stupid image error when it started up
[11:12] <gnomefreak> oh ok good
[11:12] <LjL> _epp: i went into apollon's configuration, Advances, Plugins/Add, and selected the libgnutella-gift
[11:13] <LjL> _epp: that must have been it
[11:13] <tritium> sorry, ketchup
[11:13] <ketchup> tritium: i found another cpu Duron in my brother's room, and now it works fin
[11:13] <LjL> michael__: like what? (though, as long as it works... =)
[11:13] <jsimon> how do i install my ati mobility x300 ?
[11:13] <djp> mgpalmer, then it would appear the ddclient is already setup to start on boot
[11:13] <ketchup> i'm discovering linux world, just found that it was my gateway missing
[11:13] <tritium> ketchup: hopefully he wont mind
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jsimon about ati
[11:13] <soundray> Thanks for backing me up, tritium.
[11:13] <mgpalmer> djp: that may be so, but it doesnt actually start on boot...
[11:13] <michael__> LjL: cannot find keditbookmarks.xpm
[11:13] <LoCusF> ubotu tell me about ubuntu
[11:13] <tritium> soundray: :)
[11:13] <LjL> gnomefreak: i686 just intel pentiums
[11:14] <michael__> LjL: failed to load image, rather
[11:14] <_epp> oh ok...
[11:14] <variant> ubotu: tell me about your day :)
[11:14] <djp> mgpalmer, what is ddclient, i think i have used it before? is it something to do with dyndns?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> LjL: for over 600mhz?
[11:14] <ompaul> !bot
[11:14] <nickrud> mgpalmer: take a look at /etc/default/ddclient, change run_daemon to true, and restart
[11:14] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[11:14] <ruzgar> i started a download with "wget". how can i cancel it?
[11:14] <fluvvell> does anyone know who is developing gnome-pilot?  I'm confused with the ximian / novell takover where its gone to
[11:14] <mgpalmer> nickrud: ill try that
[11:14] <ketchup> i will configure dhcp, dns, ldap and smtp now :)
[11:14] <ompaul> ruzgar, CtrlC
[11:14] <LjL> gnomefreak: dunno... for P2's and above, i think. couldn't swear on it. i think Wikipedia had an article with the correspondences somewhere...
[11:14] <xecto> hallo!
[11:14] <variant> ruzgar: ctrl c
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ruzgar: ctrl+C should do it
[11:14] <IdleOne> warning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory. How do I fix this error?
[11:14] <ruzgar> ok thanks
[11:15] <Seveas> IdleOne, sudo updatedb
[11:15] <LjL> mike-e_: just an idea - perhaps your default browser is still konqueror for some reason?
[11:15] <_epp> LjL, there was gnutella and openFT.
[11:15] <IdleOne> thank you  Seveas
[11:15] <LjL> michael__: that was for you ^^
[11:15] <LjL> _epp: yeah, gnutella should be it anyway
[11:15] <michael__> LjL: i think it might be because whenever i open links form like irc it goes into konqueror
[11:15] <michael__> LjL: heh i know
[11:15] <LjL> michael__: oh yeah! i was just telling you to try clicking on http://www.google.com in fact ;)
[11:15] <_epp> yeah now it says i have had some errors with gift
[11:15] <s|k> what's the default x window manager in ubuntu?
[11:15] <IdleOne> Seveas> warning: updatedb: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory
[11:15] <s|k> er
[11:15] <michael__> LjL: haha what?
[11:16] <m_0_r_0_n> Today I ve reinstalled Breezy just for fun. Now I am missing the sudo terminal, where has it gone?
[11:16] <variant> is it ok to have all of kde installed alongside gnome? and still use gdm to select a session ?
[11:16] <carpediem> s|k: it's gnome, so metacity.
[11:16] <s|k> k thanks
[11:16] <Seveas> IdleOne, does it exit afterwards?
[11:16] <LjL> michael__: to check whether it was the case that konqueror was still default :)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> variant: yes its fine
[11:16] <soundray> variant: that's what I do, no problems so far.
[11:16] <michael__> LjL: how can i change it?
[11:16] <variant> gnomefreak: will installing kde setup kdm as the login manager?
[11:16] <michael__> LjL: actulaly i think i have set firefox as my default before
[11:16] <dle> IdleOne:: run 'sudo slocate -u'
[11:16] <LjL> update-alternatives ... what?
[11:16] <IdleOne> Seveas>  it exits to prompt
[11:16] <gnomefreak> michael__: what browser do you want default?
[11:17] <chuckyp> yeah bootmisc.sh would be the proper place
[11:17] <tristanmike> variant, you will be asked which you want to use
[11:17] <michael__> LjL: hey, at alt+f8 i still have that prompt that says...
[11:17] <LjL> gnomefreak: firefox
[11:17] <michael__> gnomefreak: firefox
[11:17] <IdleOne> Seveas>  oops no it doesnt exit
[11:17] <variant> thanks all
[11:17] <gnomefreak> variant: it asks you while its installing
[11:17] <michael__> LjL: "There already appears to be an X server running..."
[11:17] <LjL> michael__: i think it's just there from before
[11:17] <Sandreas> how does wget indicate if a file has been incompletely downloaded?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> michael__: in the firefox settings you should see check as default always check that
[11:17] <michael__> LjL: do i clikc yes or no on it?
[11:17] <michael__> gnomefreak: okay, thanks
[11:17] <LjL> michael__: oh, there's still a question? but what's the question?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:17] <IdleOne> Seveas>  sorry . yes it exited to prompt ;/
[11:18] <gnomefreak> michael__: kon. will still open files/folders
[11:18] <Seveas> IdleOne, after how long?
[11:18] <LjL> gnomefreak: isn't there an update-alternatives for that too or something similar?
[11:18] <s|k> what's the relationship between X, metacity, and Gnome?
[11:18] <s|k> X is a server
[11:18] <gnomefreak> LjL: i havent heard of one
[11:18] <Jimmer> my monitor is cabable of bigger resoltion, but Ubutunu isnt showing it ?
[11:18] <s|k> but what does it do?
[11:18] <michael__> gnomefreak: i haev that checked actulaly
[11:18] <s|k> :/
[11:18] <IdleOne> Seveas>  pc was lag about 15 seconds
[11:18] <gnomefreak> michael__: restart ff
[11:18] <Seveas> IdleOne, that sounds awfully short - try again
[11:19] <LjL> s|k: X draws your windows (and drives your gfx card). metacity draws your windows decorations. GTK draws your buttons and scrollbars and stuff. Gnome is a hat on top of it all
[11:19] <soundray> Sandreas: it doesn't.
[11:19] <IdleOne> Seveas>  ok
[11:19] <chuckyp> nickrud, woulodn't he just addit to bootmisc.sh being the proper way?
[11:19] <s|k> I see
[11:19] <mgpalmer> heya all, that last bit did it with the ddclient buisness
[11:19] <soundray> Sandreas: if you download a file whose name exists already, wget renames the new download "file.1"
[11:19] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, what last bit?
[11:19] <s|k> LjL, why isn't there one thing that does it all?
[11:19] <michael__> LjL: "There already appears to be an X server running. Should another display number be tried? Answering no will cause GDM to attempt starting the server on :0 again. (you cna change consoles by pressing ..." [yes]  [no] 
[11:19] <mgpalmer> changing the /etc/default/ddclient script
[11:19] <s|k> is there an alternative to X?
[11:20] <LjL> s|k: X is known as the "X-Window server". metacity is a "window manager". GTK is a "GUI toolkit". Gnome is a "desktop environment"
[11:20] <michael__> gnomefreak: i restarted it
[11:20] <soundray> Sandreas: if you want to continue an interrupted download, you have to use the --continue option.
[11:20] <LjL> s|k: because that's just about the opposite to the Unix philosophy of doing things
[11:20] <tritium> s|k: the unix philosophy is to have modularity, which makes for good reuse
[11:20] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, and its launching on startup now?
[11:20] <mgpalmer> but that very sillily complicated...why is every program spread out over so many places ?
[11:20] <s|k> oh okay
[11:20] <mgpalmer> chukyp:yes
[11:20] <LjL> s|k: "write a program that does one thing, and does it well"
[11:20] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, its not really over time you will get it.
[11:20] <soundray> Sandreas: wget knows by the size of the partial file where to continue.
[11:20] <Jo> Ahoy.
[11:21] <LjL> michael__: no
[11:21] <soundray> Sandreas: making sense?
[11:21] <Sandreas> soundray how do I check if there was a download interupted?
[11:21] <nickrud> mgpalmer: many places, yes, but 'dependable' places. After a while, you know where to look for various things
[11:21] <mgpalmer> well anyway, thanks
[11:21] <michael__> LjL: okay thanks
[11:21] <s|k> LjL, does x work without a window manager, and can a window manager work without a destkop environment?
[11:21] <michael__> LjL: ah, i can't move the cursor on it..its frozen
[11:21] <michael__> LjL: oh well
[11:21] <s|k> or be of any use?
[11:21] <soundray> Sandreas: rerun the download with the -c or --continue option. It won't do anything if the file is already complete.
[11:21] <Seveas> LjL, both yes
[11:21] <LjL> s|k: x can work without a window manager. just login in "safe mode" (click on "Session" on the login screen). you'll "just" be unable to move windows, or iconify them, and so on
[11:22] <avu> s|k: many linux users use window managers without a DE
[11:22] <s|k> oh I see
[11:22] <IdleOne> Seveas>  thank you  that fixed it :) dle thank you  also
[11:22] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, yeah you can make your own rc.local or whatever you want for future use if the program doesn't have a script.
[11:22] <Sandreas> soundray I download multiple files by wget -i
[11:22] <LjL> s|k: X and a window manager definitely can work without a desktop environment. DEs are a relatively recent development
[11:22] <mgpalmer> id like to know, you guys here that answer all my silly questions, do you do this as a job or just because youre so nice people ? it seems like a lot of hassle
[11:22] <s|k> what does it look like to work without a DE?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> LjL: there a man on update-alternatives but i didnt see how you would use for a browser
[11:22] <LjL> Seveas: what?
[11:22] <Jo> So Ubuntu doesn't recognize any keyboard (USB/PS/2) after the install begins.  I can type "linux (whatever)" but after that, it freaks.  I've tried enabling legacy USB, disabling USB, using a PS/2 keyboard, and using four different versions.
[11:22] <tritium> s|k: if you check out xubuntu, you can see what xfce is like
[11:22] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, Well I learn alot by helping.  pluss it passes the time.
[11:22] <s|k> okay
[11:23] <Seveas> LjL, ehrm, I meant s|k ;)
[11:23] <LjL> gnomefreak: not sure, i just think i recalled there was something like that for browser
[11:23] <nickrud> gnomefreak: x-www-browser (that's recognized by sensible-browser, and other things)
[11:23] <LjL> Seveas: k
[11:23] <michael__> how can i change it so that irssi doesn't use a 24 hour clock?
[11:23] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: its certainly more useful than playing diblo
[11:23] <soundray> Sandreas: hmm, interesting one
[11:23] <mgpalmer> *diablo
[11:23] <IdleOne> hey I saw a wiki on enabling numlock on boot . anybody know the link?
[11:23] <Jo> I've tried the LiveCD, which does boot (fails at device check) the AMD63 distro, and the i386 net install and full cd.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> nickrud: ty
[11:23] <LjL> michael__: why, are you actually starting to like irssi? :O
[11:23] <nickrud> all the alternatives are in /etc/alternatives
[11:23] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, lol yeah you'll start to learn more and more as you go.
[11:23] <michael__> LjL: haha yeha
[11:23] <michael__> LjL: i like things simple, which is why i hated kde
[11:24] <ruzgar> !cups
[11:24] <ubotu> [cups]  The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[11:24] <LjL> michael__: well i dunno, i use Konversation, and X-Chat when i'm in Amiga mood =)
[11:24] <Jo> I can't get any Debian base working, actually.
[11:24] <Jo> And Fedora doesn't install.
[11:24] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, like while helping you I found I could create my own startup script and how to do it. etc.. with ubuntu but unfortunately i'm not in ubuntu right now.
[11:24] <Jo> And NetBSD fails.
[11:24] <michael__> LjL: hehe okay
[11:24] <LjL> michael__: when i really want to connect to IRC from the console, the "simple" way, i use telnet :>
[11:24] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, how do you do this ?
[11:24] <chuckyp> Jo, what hardware are you using?
[11:24] <tritium> Jo, those are very common keyboard types, that definitely work.  you have a hardware problem somewhere
[11:24] <Jo> Any my system crashes when I try to flash the bios.
[11:24] <michael__> LjL: i don't know how to use telnet
[11:24] <soundray> Sandreas: wget goes through the download list top-to-bottom. You could just determine the first file that isn't already there, and delete everything in the download list up to and *not* including the previous one.
[11:24] <Jo> I'm using a Chaintech mobo.
[11:24] <Jo> AMD64.
[11:25] <Madpilot> IdleOne, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[11:25] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well you need to create a script in /etc/init.d called local or whatever you want.
[11:25] <michael__> LjL: how do yourun it?
[11:25] <Jo> 3700+.
[11:25] <LjL> michael__: telnet simply lets you open (almost) a direct TCP connection to somewhere. then you have to know the specific protocol your service is using -- the IRC protocol in this case
[11:25] <soundray> Sandreas: then rerun the wget -i command.
[11:25] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, then you would use update-rc.d local defaults 80 or something similiar
[11:25] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, and anything you put in local would run on startup.
[11:25] <LjL> michael__: fortunately, the IRC protocol is an ASCII protocol, so you can write commands using english letters
[11:25] <michael__> LjL: how can i learn to use telnet?
[11:25] <Jo> The thing that kills me, is the keyboard works 'till "USB HD Probe: Tried to steal controll."
[11:25] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, ofcourse your local file needs to have !#bin/bash in it since its a script
[11:25] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, that could be useful, thanks
[11:26] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, if you search around you could find it.  let me send you a link
[11:26] <LjL> michael__: hah, i really was joking, you don't really want to use IRC via telnet :) anyway, try "telnet irc.freenode.org 6667"
[11:26] <michael__> LjL: (by the way, one of my links didn't have its icon, so i tihnk i was using a kdm icon for that link, which is why i got the err [the star icon] )
[11:26] <Jo> So I can use the keyboard and the ports, it just stops recognizing my USB materials.
[11:26] <LjL> michael__: (telnet might not be installed though)
[11:26] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, or a perl script should work too or not ?
[11:26] <IdleOne> thanks Madpilot  I found it :)
[11:26] <LjL> michael__: oh
[11:26] <Jimmer> how do i see anad explore ntfs partitions ?
[11:26] <IdleOne> Madpilot>  had a newbie momment didnt think of asking ubotu  heh
[11:26] <Madpilot> IdleOne, the bot knows everything :P
[11:26] <IdleOne> indeed
[11:27] <michael__> LjL: i typed it
[11:27] <tritium> Madpilot: does it know the meaning of life?  :)
[11:27] <Jo> ...
[11:27] <michael__> LjL: conection closed by foreign host
[11:27] <LjL> michael__: you should see Freenode giving you it's standard welcome message after a while
[11:27] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/debian_rc_local_equiv
[11:27] <LjL> michael__: hm?
[11:27] <private_meta> hi... i have a little problem, maybe you can help: Does anyone here know why i can't use my new keyboard (MS Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4k) in my GRUB? i can't chose a boot option, does anyone know how to fix that?
[11:27] <Madpilot> !tell tritium about 42
[11:27] <LjL> michael__: but it did send you a couple of messages first, didnt it?
[11:27] <soundray> Sandreas: will that work for you?
[11:27] <Jo> private_meta: Is it a USB keyboard?
[11:27] <private_meta> yes
[11:27] <tritium> Madpilot: :)
[11:27] <Jo> Because we can be sad together.
[11:28] <michael__> LjL: yes, the last one was "no ident (auth) response"
[11:28] <LjL> michael__: ok, do it again and type "USER blah blah blah blah" and "NICK blah"
[11:28] <michael__> LjL: erro closing link 127.0.0.1 (connection timed out)
[11:28] <michael__> LjL: aren't i 127.0.0.1?
[11:28] <private_meta> Jo: yes, it's a USB Keyboard
[11:28] <s|k> I'm scared to run this update:   UTF8 Migration Tool Convert your system to UTF8 This will convert your system to UTF8, including renaming any files from your legacy encoding to UTF-8
[11:28] <soundray> private_meta: you probably have to change a BIOS setup option. Here it's called "USB legacy mode for keyboard and mice"
[11:28] <LjL> michael__: then type "JOIN #ubuntu"
[11:28] <s|k> should I run that?
[11:28] <s|k> :0
[11:28] <LjL> michael__: yeah, that's you
[11:29] <IdleOne> lol @ the 42 factoid
[11:29] <soundray> ouch chuckyp
[11:29] <Madpilot> OK, I'm having Java problems. I've got Sun Java JRE installed per the wiki, but when I run "java -jar foo.jar" my system is still trying to use the (useless) free gij Java - how do I get it using Sun Java?
[11:29] <Jimmer> how do i SEE other NTFS partitions in Ubuntu ?
[11:29] <Jimmer> how do i SEE other NTFS partitions in Ubuntu ?
[11:29] <LjL> !tell Jimmer about ntfs
[11:29] <Seveas> !tell Jimmer about ntfs
[11:29] <chuckyp> soundray, not necessarily a bad thing.
[11:29] <michael__> LjL: kornbluth.freenode.net 451 *  JOIN: Register first
[11:29] <private_meta> soundray: i will try...
[11:29] <s|k> lol
[11:29] <nickrud> s|k: I wouldn't, unless I actually knew what that meant 
[11:29] <Madpilot> !tell Jimmer about repeat
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: did you run update-alternative
[11:29] <private_meta> (gotta change keyboard for that)
[11:29] <s|k> heh
[11:29] <michael__> LjL: i think i'm over telnet
[11:29] <chuckyp> Jimmer, you mount them
[11:29] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, no, I'll try that
[11:29] <chuckyp> !tell Jimmer about ntfs
[11:30] <LjL> michael__: blah is me :)
[11:30] <Jimmer> thanks =)
[11:30] <michael__> LjL: heh
[11:30] <soundray> Madpilot: the bad thing about repeating is that it works most of the time :(
[11:30] <s|k> ljl should I run an update that says it will convert my system to UTF8, will everything still run?
[11:30] <betao1> hi
[11:30] <mgpalmer> Question: again, how exaclty do i use sudo ? as far as i understand its supposed to exec a command as root without having to log in as root
[11:30] <nickrud> !tell mgpalmer about sudo
[11:30] <LjL> michael__: i just typed "USER ljl ljl ljl ljl" followed by "NICK blah", and then "JOIN #ubuntu"
[11:30] <gnomefreak> mgpalmer: sudo apt-get update for example
[11:30] <betao1> i need help
[11:31] <LjL> s|k: uuh... dunno. what update is that?
[11:31] <IdleOne> betao1>  dont we all :)
[11:31] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, what's the full command for update-alternative?
[11:31] <s|k> the UTF8 migration tool LjL
[11:31] <IdleOne> betao1>  whats up?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:31] <michael__> LjL: when did you type that? i didn't even get a chance to
[11:31] <DJ_tobias> is anybody using a dell dimension 2350? I am trying to disable onboard video, and there is no option in BIOS...
[11:31] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, thanks - and I don't think that's in the wiki, I'll have to add it later
[11:31] <s|k> LjL, I didn't run it
[11:31] <LjL> michael__: i typed it just after typing "telnet ..."
[11:31] <LjL> s|k: uhm i don't really know about it
[11:32] <blah> miPRIVMSG
[11:32] <LjL> err
[11:32] <s|k> okay, I'm frightened that it would kill my system which now runs just fine heh
[11:32] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: lol my dell doesnt have it either i had to put the vc in and pull the battery out of mobo for 6 mins the bios started using my new card
[11:32] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: thats on the a10 bios
[11:32] <betao1> i install ubuntu on my laptop, that is the installation # 5024 and i still don't know anything about linux
[11:32] <blaaaa> i've asked "i have a soundblaster audigy 2 zs and an analogue 5.1 soundsystem. how can i activate my subwoofer?". did anyone answer? i've been disconnected :(
[11:32] <gnomefreak> your welcome Madpilot least i can do
[11:33] <IdleOne> betao1>  you came to the right place. anything specific you need help with?
[11:33] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, think thats my best bet?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: what bios do you have?
[11:33] <michael__> LjL: tells me to register first when i type the JOIn line
[11:33] <betao1> i would say just the basic
[11:33] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: doing that resets the bios and will bring up warnings about intrusion :(
[11:33] <IdleOne> !tell betao1  about cli
[11:33] <DJ_tobias> i didnt check gnomefreak, it should say which i have when i reboot and go into bios, yes?
[11:34] <IdleOne> betao1>  check you priv msgs
[11:34] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: it should tell you on the dell screen
[11:34] <IdleOne> !tell betao1  about repos
[11:34] <betao1> where?
[11:34] <mikebot> i really just need to get a p2p program working
[11:34] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, haha...
[11:34] <IdleOne> betao1>  you using xchat?
[11:35] <DJ_tobias> lemme check gnomefreak ill brb
[11:35] <soundray> gnomefreak: wow, did you send them a bill?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> hb
[11:35] <betao1> i think so
[11:35] <private_meta> soundray: thank you very much for the quick help, it works now
[11:35] <gnomefreak> soundray: i should he was about dumb as a box of rocks :(
[11:35] <keenan> #wikipedia
[11:35] <mikebot> LjL, oh, btw, thanks for all your help
[11:35] <IdleOne> betao1>  on the bottom or maybe the top of this window you will see a tab with ubotu in red click on it
[11:35] <soundray> private_meta: that's good to know, well done.
[11:36] <betao1> ok
[11:36] <private_meta> bye bye
[11:37] <LjL> mikebot: you're welcome
[11:37] <whiter> !multiverse
[11:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:37] <LjL> mikebot: dunno about the registration thing really
[11:38] <lwelyn> i need some advise. If i start a programm like neverwinternights( it can be every 3d open gl proram ) how can im inimize it and return back to the desktop or switch to another workind table?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell whiter about msg the bot
[11:38] <LjL> mikebot: but in any case, really, you only ever want to use telnet that way for learning protocols, not doing any real work :)
[11:38] <lwelyn> The standart shortcuts dont work here. the only way to minimize it i find out i put i na cd  :-I
[11:38] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, A00 is my BIOS, ouch
[11:38] <mikebot> LjL, heh yeha, i would never use it anyway, just wanted to see how it looked
[11:38] <LjL> mikebot: (actually, there are much better ways to learn protocols. you only use telnet that way if you're a nerd)
[11:38] <mikebot> LjL, hah okay
[11:38] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: how old is your pc?
[11:39] <soundray> lwelyn: do you need to do this often?
[11:39] <gulu> my laptop was out of electricity by upgrading to dapper and has shut down .. now when i try to start i got an error that /dev/hda1 does not exists so i'm hunging up in busybox now .. waht to do ?
[11:39] <lwelyn> soundray yes.
[11:39] <DJ_tobias> couple years gnomefreak
[11:39] <gnomefreak> gulu: start all over
[11:39] <IdleOne> gulu>  reinstall
[11:39] <tritium> gulu: time to reinstall
[11:39] <gulu> shit ..
[11:39] <whiter> where are the actual files i can edit to enable multiverse
[11:39] <whiter> without using the package manager
[11:39] <tritium> language, gulu
[11:39] <IdleOne> gulu>  language
[11:39] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: i cant tell you on those bios for certain
[11:39] <LjL> gulu: boot from a live cd
[11:39] <lwelyn> can you help me soundray?
[11:40] <mikebot> LjL, shit, i think i may have uninstalled my video codecs
[11:40] <IdleOne> whiter>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:40] <gulu> was upgrading to dapper and downloaded 2 ours and was installing them for 1 ours
[11:40] <soundray> lwelyn: 1 min
[11:40] <LjL> gulu: you might be able to fix it, though i doubt it, and at least you can backup your files
[11:40] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, if i updated my bios, im reading in google posts that it should have an integrated video option?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> gulu: you have to start over the files werent all copied to disk
[11:40] <IdleOne> gulu>  1 more hour to save yourself many hours of headaches
[11:40] <tritium> mikebot: I think I've already warned you about language...
[11:40] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: it might help yet
[11:40] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:41] <LjL> mikebot: hm i can't see that in the list of removed packages actually
[11:41] <mikebot> tritium, ah, right, sorry
[11:41] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, know the best site to get a file for upgrading?
[11:41] <gulu> how can i backup my existing data when "mount" shows not my partition
[11:41] <blaaaa> how do i install more themes? i've downloaded a few, but when i press install and pick the .xml file it tells me the format is invalid :/
[11:41] <LjL> DJ_tobias: sorry?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: for bios you should get them from the dell site
[11:41] <mikebot> LjL, maybe not, i don't think i've tried to opena  wmv before
[11:41] <tritium> gulu: did you have important personal data on the drive?
[11:41] <LjL> oh, bios
[11:42] <andres3122> alguien habla espaol?
[11:42] <LjL> !tell mikebot about restrictedformats
[11:42] <LjL> !es
[11:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:42] <IdleOne> !es
[11:42] <gulu> yes tritium
[11:42] <mikebot> tritium, it's actually pretty subconscious on my part
[11:42] <tritium> mikebot: okay, please try to watch it in the future.   Thanks!
[11:42] <soundray> lwelyn: you can minimize it with 'killall -s STOP neverwinternights'. You just have to tie this command to a hotkey that isn't swallowed by neverwinternights.
[11:42] <mikebot> tritium, i will welcome
[11:42] <IdleOne> mikebot>  the concious can overide the subconcious :P
[11:43] <lwelyn> soundary thatnk you....
[11:43] <mikebot> IdleOne, well i wasn't making that concious an effort to stop doing it
[11:43] <IdleOne> hehe apperently
[11:43] <lwelyn> but i think nwn gets all buttons @ soundary
[11:43] <soundray> lwelyn: you may be interested in the xbindkeys package.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: just know something before you start back up anything important onto disks/floppies/whatever   if something goes wrong during bios flash you could be in trouble
[11:43] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, do you know of any other way to turn off integrated video( easier )?
[11:43] <gulu> tritium maybe about 5MB, but these 5MB are important for me
[11:43] <IdleOne> mikebot>  no harm no foul but tritium  isnt a patient person
[11:43] <LjL> mikebot: you could probably write a script for your IRC client that filters out any sentences containing s and f words :)
[11:43] <betao1> Thanks a lot. I bookmarked those sites it will be a beginer for me.
[11:43] <tritium> gulu: you could possibly recover them with a live CD
[11:43] <lwelyn> soundary perhaps
[11:43] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: if its not in bios no (ripping it off mobo) but that breaks mobo :(
[11:43] <IdleOne> betao1>  no problem anytime you need help you know where to come
[11:44] <tritium> IdleOne: sure I am :)
[11:44] <mikebot> ljljhaha possibly
[11:44] <soundray> lwelyn: can you switch to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F1 when nwn is running?
[11:44] <lwelyn> aye
[11:44] <mgpalmer> Question: I downloaded and de-tar-gz-ed firefox 1.5...now ive got a folder iwht lotsa files in it. how do i install it ?
[11:44] <tritium> !lart IdleOne
[11:44] <lwelyn> the only combo that works
[11:44] <mikebot> is it polite not to use such language here, or  a rule?
[11:44] <gulu> tritium thanks will try this :(
[11:44] <LjL> mikebot: it's a rule
[11:44] <soundray> lwelyn: it's not capturing every key then ;)
[11:44] <IdleOne> tritium>  want me to switch to offtopic so you can lart me?
[11:44] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, can you just use apt to install it?
[11:44] <LjL> !tell mikebot about coc
[11:44] <DJ_tobias> yea, no good gnomefreak haha..
[11:44] <tritium> mikebot: we actually have a code of conduct
[11:44] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, why are you installing from source?
[11:44] <tritium> IdleOne: nah, it's okay :)
[11:44] <IdleOne> k :)
[11:44] <mikebot> ah okay
[11:45] <mikebot> soryr then
[11:45] <gnomefreak> tritium: lart is no longer known by ubotu
[11:45] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, i tried synaptic, i could only find firefox 1.07 there, and the downloaded firefox is not a source release
[11:45] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, lart works in #ubuntu-offtopic, but not here
[11:45] <IdleOne> Ubugtu>  knows lart?
[11:45] <soundray> lwelyn: you could try if this works by logging in on the console and issuing the killall command above.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> support channle
[11:46] <bimberi> LjL: :) - there's also !conduct
[11:46] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well look for a readme in the directory that you untarred it to.
[11:46] <tritium> gnomefreak: in other channels it is
[11:46] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: Ubugtu may not no we were talking ubotu
[11:46] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, should come with instructions
[11:46] <LjL> bimberi: i'll keep that in mind ;)
[11:46] <joeyb> How long does it take for them to ship CDs?
[11:46] <betao1> how do i install turboprin for canon i550 on ubuntu?
[11:46] <IdleOne> 4-6 weeks
[11:46] <lwelyn> soundary okay
[11:46] <bimberi> joeyb: 4-6 weeks
[11:46] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak how do i find out which is the proper bios to upgrade to?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> 6-8 weeks sometimes longer depending wher eyou are
[11:46] <IdleOne> !tell betao1  about print
[11:46] <soundray> LjL: there are several meanings to that word, and not all of them have a xxx connotation.
[11:47] <DJ_tobias> theres a post on dell.com saying if i upgrade to A02 i should be good, but its like 5 years old
[11:47] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: that i dont know call the jerk i talked to?
[11:47] <DJ_tobias> haha
[11:47] <LjL> soundray: sure, except doesn't that apply to just about every word in english? =)
[11:47] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, there is a readme that only points me to the firefox site...and there the only install instructions are to untar the file
[11:47] <betao1> thanks
[11:48] <mikebot> dj tobias funke
[11:48] <cafuego_> !ff1.5
[11:48] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, and you are sure this isn't source?
[11:48] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:48] <cafuego_> Would that be what you're after?
[11:48] <soundray> LjL: most of the "forbidden" words don't have any meaning outside a swearing or xxxual context.
[11:48] <chuckyp> cafuego_, ty commond request I take it.
[11:48] <IdleOne> betao1>  you can enter searchterm in the window ubotu send you the msgs ex: java
[11:49] <cafuego_> chuckyp: It's *way* up there :-)
[11:49] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: yeah, its got a "firefox" file in there and a "firefox-bin"...but when i ./firefox, it gives me this error, hang on:
[11:49] <mgpalmer> mgpalmer@Neuromancer:~/Desktop/firefox$ ./firefox
[11:49] <mgpalmer> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:49] <chuckyp> !tell mgpalmer about ff1.5
[11:49] <LjL> soundray: hm, true i guess... except that for me, it's extremely hard to make the right "ee" sound when i ask for a "sheet", say ;)
[11:49] <Jimmer> how do we mount an ISO file as a CDROM ?
[11:49] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, read the wiki ubotu sent you
[11:49] <mgpalmer> k
[11:50] <cafuego_> In fact, it's #4 in the top-overall, with 610 requests.
[11:50] <LjL> mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 cd_image /cdrom
[11:50] <LjL> Jimmer: ^^
[11:50] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[11:50] <Jimmer> which file does that mount ?
[11:50] <Jimmer> cd_image.iso ?
[11:50] <LjL> Jimmer: "cd_image"
[11:50] <soundray> LjL: so it's okay to talk about your cock in polite conversation, since it can be a male domestic bird. But you can't say *** oops, I almost said it ;)
[11:50] <Jimmer> thanks
[11:50] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know of a web-based firewall/NAT/PAT manager, at all? ;)
[11:50] <betao1> ok, thanks
[11:51] <soundray> LjL: just make the same i sound that occurs in Pisa ;)
[11:51] <LjL> Jimmer: also, i think you should use "/media/cdrom" instead of just "/cdrom" (i copied that command from a site, and i intended to change it a little, but pasted by mistake ;)
[11:51] <seraphim> Psi-Jack: webmin-firewall
[11:51] <lwelyn> soundray it takes really all combos :-(
[11:51] <tritium> soundray: dude, it's just out of courtesy and respect for others here that we ask users not to use profanity
[11:52] <Psi-Jack> seraphim: Hmmm. That might do what I'm looking for. Mostly I just want to be able to remotely manage my monitor-less servers, and setup firewalls and port-forwards.
[11:52] <mgpalmer> thank you very much everybody
[11:52] <seraphim> yes, that will work
[11:52] <soundray> tritium: I know. I'm just arguing that the common abbreviation for the code of conduct is perfectly polite.
[11:52] <soundray> lwelyn: but that's good news, isn't it?
[11:53] <tritium> soundray: okay...
[11:53] <SirKillalot> what is the apt-get command to install all needed libs for program to get compiled?
[11:53] <IdleOne> perhaps the CoC abreviation should be changed to C.O.C?
[11:53] <LjL> soundray: that's the correct sound, in theory. but in practice that "i" can sound both ways, depending on the mood/phase of the moon/etc. all in all, it's quite hard for us to get the correct "i" in english. anyway - let's close the offtopicness i suppose
[11:53] <lwelyn> soundray it isnt good :-I .... i cant define a key combo...
[11:53] <LjL> IdleOne: or CC
[11:54] <LinuxJones> SirKillalot: build-essential
[11:54] <soundray> lwelyn: oh, I see, it captures them all.
[11:54] <globe> how do I search apt-get ?
[11:54] <tritium> SirKillalot: apt-get build-dep <package name>
[11:54] <LjL> !tell globe about shortapt
[11:54] <tritium> globe: apt-cache search <term>
[11:54] <betao1> Looks like the s800 is similar to canon i550
[11:54] <soundray> lwelyn: file a bug against nwn then...
[11:54] <LinuxJones> globe: apt-cache search pattern
[11:54] <DJ_tobias> ugh, do they sell floppy disks at walmart?!
[11:54] <__mikem> Is it bad if my system does not have a file called XF86Config
[11:54] <lwelyn> soundray its the same with ut2k4
[11:54] <soundray> __mikem: no,it isn't.
[11:54] <IdleOne> DJ_tobias>  only on fridays..yeah they do near my house
[11:55] <tritium> LinuxJones: build-essential doesn't pull in a package's build dependencies
[11:55] <globe> oh thanks!
[11:55] <Jimmer> how do i bring up a Root console ?
[11:55] <LjL> Jimmer: "sudo -i"
[11:55] <soundray> __mikem: xorg.conf takes that role.
[11:55] <ubuntuking> SirKillalot, apt-get install build-essential
[11:55] <LjL> Jimmer: and you should do that as little as possible of course
[11:55] <ubuntuking> Jimmer, sudo su
[11:55] <__mikem> OK
[11:56] <betao1> when i tryed to install i saw the installation of TurboPrint there it looks like that worked before but i did not realised
[11:56] <LjL> ubuntuking: "sudo -i" is preferred
[11:56] <ubuntuking> LjL, why
[11:56] <LjL> ubuntuking: 'cause it puts you in a predictable environment
[11:56] <soundray> lwelyn: you mentioned above something that minimizes it without your intervention -- remind me what that was pls.
[11:56] <__mikem> My other problem is, for some reason wine stopped working, I get this error message
[11:56] <__mikem> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:56] <fluvvell> anyone familiar with gnome-pilot
[11:56] <fluvvell> ?
[11:57] <Kurt> why do Democrats hate Jews?
[11:57] <SirKillalot> is there a chance to change the whole system language? I mean my kde/gnome is english, but programs like apt are still german, because I installed ubuntu in german
[11:57] <globe> !wifi
[11:57] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:57] <IdleOne> Kurt>  good question ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:57] <SirKillalot> is there a method to change the whole system language?
[11:57] <LinuxJones> Kurt: please stop talking like that in here
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Kurt: not in here and thats not the best topic at all
[11:58] <LjL> __mikem: does your xorg.conf include a     Load "glx"     in your Section "Module"?
[11:58] <Jimmer> i get no such file or directory when trying to mount the ISO
[11:58] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: things like that i wouldnt send to offtopic
[11:58] <lwelyn> soundray well if i run a 3d pengl prog i cant switch destops
[11:58] <dabaR> SirKillalot: off course.
[11:58] <__mikem> hold on
[11:58] <gnomefreak> it will have sam effct
[11:58] <SirKillalot> dabaR, how to?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> sasme effect*
[11:59] <SirKillalot> dabaR, many console programs are in german, that sucks
[11:59] <SirKillalot> I want them to be english
[11:59] <LjL> Jimmer: does the error refer to the iso, or to /media/cdrom?
[11:59] <soundray> SirKillalot: try to set LANGUAGE="en_GB:en" in /etc/environment
[11:59] <ubuntuking> LjL, good to know i use sudo su all the time i thought that they were all the same
[11:59] <dabaR> SirKillalot: install the language pack you want, and then choose your language either at login, or in the gnome menu. Also, if your nick is what I think it is, stop watching stupid robot shows.
[11:59] <V4Vendetta> .
[11:59] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  he didnt say anything racist he asked a question...ok I admit it probably will lead to something racist but he can go there and get himself banned and they will set a ban in here also
[11:59] <gnomefreak> apache is a web-server app right?
[11:59] <SirKillalot> dabaR, not the gnome language, I mean the SYSTEM language
[11:59] <tk401> hey everyone
[11:59] <V4Vendetta> gnomefreak~ yes
[11:59] <dabaR> no, it is a toaster.
[11:59] <SirKillalot> soundray, I'll have a try
[11:59] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: good point
[11:59] <dabaR> SirKillalot: and I told you how.
[11:59] <gnomefreak> why am i installing it than :(
[12:00] <soundray> SirKillalot: or en_US