[12:04] <arafel> I use it to grab POP3 mail every 10 minutes or so, then deliver it to the local machine for filtering and stuff
[12:05] <rysiek|pl> ok, that would be 'nuff for today for one rysiek ;) cu all ad good luck
[12:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> arafel: ;) ?
[12:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> elsewhere?
[12:06] <arafel> me? yes :)
[12:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't even understand what that you have new mail when i lon in the shell
[12:07] <arafel> the middle of that sentence is a bit weird...
[12:07] <callie> lol
[12:07] <mihai_> ok... i want to run bitchx and let it run even after i logout ... where does screen come in?
[12:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that "you have new mail" when...
[12:07] <arafel> mihai_:  run it inside screen. check the documentation for screen for more details.
[12:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[12:08] <arafel> Tallia1Kubuntu: it checks your local spoolfile (usually /var/spool/mail/user), and if it's got new mail tells you.
[12:08] <Captainbraille> How do I make a symbolic link for /dev/hdd?
[12:08] <arafel> if you want to know how it decides if it's new, you'll have to read the source, it's a bit involved :)
[12:09] <mihai_> anyone familliar with this gadget: http://www.trendware.com/en/products/TW100-S4W1CA.htm ?
[12:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[12:09] <arafel> er. has the "load view profile" stuff been completely disabled in konqueror? or am I just missing something?
[12:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's a spoolfile?
[12:10] <arafel> Tallia1Kubuntu: inbox, essentially.
[12:10] <arafel> that's cutting some stuff out, but I'm guessing you use a GUI mailclient, and most of them don't care about any of this
[12:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can you give me a tutorial on how to use it?
[12:11] <arafel> no, I'm afraid not. "man fetchmail" or Google that for enough detail
[12:12] <arafel> http://www.catb.org/~esr/fetchmail/
[12:13] <__mikem> hey I have a problem, when I run glxgears I get this output
[12:13] <__mikem> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:13] <__mikem> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:14] <markc> has anyone got persistence working on a flight4 liveCD ?
[12:15] <mihai_> hmm i ran screen centericq
[12:15] <mihai_> logged in on the irc network
[12:15] <mihai_> now what?
[12:15] <mihai_> how to detach?
[12:16] <arafel> ctrl-a then d, by default
[12:19] <arafel> you'll have to work out how to re-attach yourself. ;-)
[12:20] <markc> anyone know if using a USB device called casper-cow will trigger saving user settings on the kubuntu flight4 liveCD ? (or is it only working with gnome)
[12:20] <mihai_> screen -R
[12:20] <mihai_> or if there are more screens opened screen -list
[12:20] <mihai_> and then screen -R id
[12:20] <arafel> ah, so you have read the docs. :)
[12:21] <arafel> markc: haven't a clue, I'm afraid
[12:22] <markc> arafel> fwiw I don't think it does... I've followed the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence instructions and no sign of any saved files
[12:23] <mihai_> ok BIG QUESTION: can anyone tell me a good free shell host ??
[12:23] <markc> anyone know of any way I could save my desktop settings (not my home dir content) so I could somehow reuse them on a future install ?
[12:23] <mihai_> (screen enabled) :P
[12:24] <markc> it drives me crazy having to go thru the same motions everytime I reinstall kubuntu
[12:26] <mihai_> norton ghost :))
[12:26] <markc> heh
[12:26] <flixor-> well dont reinstall markc, why do you want to reinstall if it works, never change a winning team
[12:26] <mihai_> flixor lol
[12:26] <mihai_> good point
[12:26] <mihai_> so... free shell ?
[12:26] <mihai_> screen enabled?
[12:26] <markc> flixor-> uhm, dead computers and setting it up for other ppl
[12:26] <mihai_> please?
[12:27] <flixor-> kee :) markc spreading the word always good
[12:27] <flixor-> mihai_: free shell hosting always hard to find
[12:28] <flixor-> why do you need it mihai_
[12:28] <markc> I want to remaster the the dapper liveCD with a preconfigured KPPP and give away 1000s of CDs... but I have to figure out how to do the persistence thing first
[12:28] <mihai_> well i've found one but it's like having an account on a internetless pc with no hard disk
[12:29] <mihai_> flixor-: for some research... i'm taking a OS lecture at the university and they won't let us on our accounts only from inside the univ. lan...
[12:29] <Steil> does anyone know what spellchecking in kopete depends on?
[12:29] <mihai_> flixor-: and i want to improve some skills
[12:29] <arafel> cheap shell hosting is easier, if that's an option
[12:29] <fatejudger> !samba
[12:29] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:29] <flixor-> do you have a computer inside the univ lan
[12:30] <mihai_> flixor-: no... i'm not living in the univ's dormitories
[12:30] <flixor-> do you know someone who does with a unix box
[12:30] <mihai_> what is that?
[12:30] <mihai_> :P
[12:32] <me2win> stfu fatejudger
[12:33] <arafel> mihai_: a PC running Linux, FreeBSD or similar
[12:33] <mihai_> ahhh
[12:33] <mihai_> well yes
[12:34] <mihai_> ok
[12:34] <mihai_> i got it
[12:34] <mihai_> does bitchx have some detach options?
[12:35] <arafel> not on its own, I think; been a while since I used it
[12:35] <flixor-> you could use a program like screen
[12:35] <mihai_> well... on my free shell account screen is disabled
[12:35] <wimpies> Does anybody know if there is a package for AVIDEMUX
[12:35] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to configure Samba to share folders without having to supply credentials?
[12:36] <flixor-> anyway mihai, why dont you use a live cd, like for kubuntu and a good tutorail about the shell
[12:36] <mihai_> i'm takind the tutorial right now :D
[12:36] <_marc> hi all
[12:36] <me2win> fatejudger, roundhouse kick it
[12:37] <fatejudger> me2win: that was the dumbest Chuck Norris joke EVER
[12:38] <me2win> fatejudger, chuck norris doesn't have to supply credentials to samba, samba supplies credentials to chuck norris.
[12:39] <_marc>  hmmmm i hope chuck likes chicken sama credentials taste like chicken.
[12:39] <_marc> samba even
[12:39] <arafel> wimpies: you can use the Debian packages Christian provides easily enough, I think. See http://debian.video.free.fr/
[12:40] <mihai_> is there a way to communicate with another user connected at a server trough the shell ?
[12:40] <wimpies> arafel : ok thx
[12:40] <_marc> you could try wall
[12:41] <arafel> er, wall wouldn't make you any friends. try write or talk.
[12:42] <fatejudger> W T F?
[12:44] <mihai_> what shell should i use?
[12:44] <_marc> zsh is quite a nifty shell
[12:45] <mihai_> csh, ksh , tcsh zsh?
[12:45] <mihai_> what is the difference?
[12:48] <_marc> hmmmm I i dont know about csh ksh tcsh but compared to bash zsh is more flexible and tweakable.. and if configured propperly the autocompletion works even with scp, apt-get install, apt-cache shearch apt-cache show and so on
[12:49] <markc> thanks for the help, see ya's
[12:50] <_marc> its quite amazing to do scp -r * remotemachine:/home/user/do[tab] /ga[tab]  and see autocompletion kick in.
[12:51] <arafel> the only thing to watch out for there is that most scripts are written for bash or sh, so if you want to modify them you'll need to understand those shells as well as zsh.
[12:52] <mihai_> 10x 4 all
[12:53] <Captainbraille> How do I make a symbolic link for /dev/hdd?
[12:53] <_marc> true but honestly i havent seen a script written for bash that had to be modified befor it ran on zsh.. .99% of the scripts i came acros ran just fine.
[12:53] <mihai_> well 10x 4 all the help
[12:54] <_marc> yw
[12:55] <GameOver69> hey guys i jus recently updated to dapper... and now mplayer opens and quickly closes every time i want to use it
[12:55] <GameOver69> but it works in my browser and work in konsole
[12:55] <marcez> hey i need helpp about pam_ldap
[12:56] <marcez> ...anybody ?
[12:56] <arafel> Captainbraille: what are you trying to do?
[12:57] <anarko> hola
[12:57] <anarko> se qu no sere el primero pero me podeis ayyudar?
[12:57] <anarko> esque e mudado hoy a kubuntu y soi muy nooobbbb
[12:57] <arafel> no hablo espanol (?)
[12:58] <Captainbraille> arafel: I'm trying to get wine to play diablo 2, I read you need.. "d: -> /mnt/cdrom" and "d:: -> /dev/hdd" /dev/hdd is my cdrom drive
[12:58] <anarko> hay alguien?
[12:58] <arafel> you can't have d pointing to both...
[12:58] <Captainbraille> arafel: this is the url I'm using .. "http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=49&iTestingId=1252&showAll=Show%20All%20Tests"
[12:59] <balayhashi> anarko: #ubuntu-es
[12:59] <arafel> oh, I see.
[01:00] <GameOver69> anyone haev problems with mplayer when updating to dapper
[01:00] <arafel> Captainbraille: ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/d::
[01:00] <arafel> you might need to escape the : symbols, I can't remember.
[01:00] <Captainbraille> arafel: thats all I have to do? =)
[01:01] <arafel> Captainbraille: that creates a link from the /dev/d:: entry to the /dev/hdd device
[01:01] <arafel> it seems an odd thing to do, but that's what they've got on the page, so...
[01:01] <arafel> oops.
[01:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to use mplayer instead of kaffeine inside firefox?
[01:01] <arafel> hang on, that's in ~/.wine/dosdevices - ln -s /dev/hdd ~/.wine/dosdevices/d::
[01:01] <arafel> my bad.
[01:02] <Captainbraille> sweet, let me try that out, be right back =)
[01:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to use mplayer instead of kaffeine inside firefox?
[01:03] <arafel> Captainbraille: symlinks I can help with, wine I don't know much about, I'm afraid. ;-)
[01:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can tell me why everytime that i install from synaptics a new kernel image the /boot/menu.lts of grub sets value of hd that are wrong?
[01:08] <_mihai> so... how to add applications to the "start menu" ?
[01:08] <arafel> _mihai: right click the K, "menu editor"?
[01:09] <Captainbraille> arafel: thanks, the symlink looks good =) How do I add the /dev/hdd to my user list so wine can access/ read it?
[01:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody can tell me why everytime that i install from synaptics a new kernel image the /boot/menu.lts of grub sets value of hd that are wrong?
[01:09] <Borelia> why cant i runt multilpe instances of xmms ?
[01:09] <arafel> Tallia1Kubuntu: repeating the question isn't going to help...
[01:10] <arafel> Captainbraille: if your user mounted the disc, you should already be able to have access to it
[01:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[01:10] <Borelia> doh ! it was in options
[01:10] <_mihai> no search in the menu editor... that sux
[01:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> arafel: have you any idea?
[01:10] <arafel> Captainbraille: failing that, check if the /dev/hdd node belongs to the cdrom group
[01:10] <arafel> Tallia1Kubuntu: nope
[01:11] <Captainbraille> arafel: Is this right? when I do "ls -l .wine/dosdevices/" I get this.. lrwxrwxrwx 1 captainbraille captainbraille 8 2006-03-05 16:06 d:: -> /dev/hdd -- and /dev/hdd is in yellow
[01:12] <arafel> Captainbraille: you only have that one link? I have quite a lot in my dosdevices directory. isn't there some kind of wine setup program for this?
[01:12] <arafel> as for the colour, I don't know what it signifies...
[01:12] <arafel> the link looks okay, though
[01:13] <Captainbraille> arafel: this is the whole thing I get "lrwxrwxrwx 1 captainbraille captainbraille 10 2006-03-05 14:44 c: -> ../drive_c lrwxrwxrwx 1 captainbraille captainbraille 10 2006-03-05 16:06 d: -> /mnt/cdrom lrwxrwxrwx 1 captainbraille captainbraille 8 2006-03-05 16:06 d:: -> /dev/hdd lrwxrwxrwx 1 captainbraille captainbraille 1 2006-03-05 14:44 z: -> /"
[01:13] <arafel> ah. that looks okay, from my limited experience. I think you're reaching the point where you need #wine instead.
[01:14] <Captainbraille> lol, I don't know about a setup program =\
[01:14] <Captainbraille> there is a #wine !
[01:14] <arafel> er, or whatever channel it is. might not be this server...
[01:14] <Captainbraille> Oh, haha, I don't know the channel either =\
[01:15] <arafel> from the winehq FAQ, it's #winehq. makes sense...
[01:15] <Captainbraille> yeah, with the period?
[01:15] <arafel> no, that's just konversation getting carried away
[01:16] <Captainbraille> arafel: thanks for the help, I'll try there
[01:16] <arafel> no problem, hope it works
[01:19] <_mihai> what does mount mean?
[01:21] <anarko> alguien espaol??
[01:21] <Dasnipa`> !es
[01:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:21] <_michael> I messed up sudo somehow by changing the date a few hours into the future (mistakenly, as timezone was misset I suspect) and now su returns error if I try to reset the time to the correct time... any ideas of how I can fix it?
[01:22] <twit_army> I can't get my ipod to work in kubuntu.  It looks like it's because the CONFIG_EFI_PARTION option was enabled when compling the kernel.  Anyone know of a way around this without having to recompile?
[01:22] <twit_army> no idea here _michael
[01:24] <_mihai> i have an asus a8n motherboard with integrated soundcard (5.1). in kubuntu it does not work (the 5.1 system) solution?
[01:27] <twit_army> not sure on yours either _mihai, but a quick google search looks like it's tricky
[01:27] <twit_army> do some research on google and see if you can find a solution
[01:28] <_michael> anyone know the commandline to get into time&date settings? kdesu is broken for me
[01:31] <_marc> _michael how about switching machine off disconnect network to bypass ntpdate if installed then switch on set bios a few hours into the future sudo -i then set a root paswd. switch machine off plugin network and switch machine on... then login as root and fix your time problems.... wait a few hours and decide if you really want to go back to a rootless(crippled root) state...
[01:33] <_marc> but first lookup how what the command is to activate rootaccount... i did that a while ago... sudo is handy but being able to login as root has its advantages..
[01:33] <twit_army> to login as root you can try sudo su
[01:33] <twit_army> may or may not work
[01:34] <_marc> sudo passwd root to enable root account
[01:35] <_marc> sudo su will not work if you not first set a password for root.
[01:36] <twit_army> for the one with the sound problem...found a post where someone said they got the sound working on that mobo with the 2.6.13 kernel....so try upgrading the kernel I guess
[01:37] <ryanakca> why is it that adept updater wants to remove kubuntu-desktop?
[01:39] <_marc> what are you trying to uninstall.....
[01:40] <twit_army> and another thing to try for the sound problem...quoted from elsewhere:  To get the SPDIF output working do the following:
[01:40] <twit_army>  1) Stop alsasound: /etc/init.d/alsasound stop
[01:40] <twit_army>  2) Edit /etc/asound.state . Find the section IEC958 Playback Switch and sets its value to true.
[01:40] <twit_army>  3) Also sets IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA to 0
[01:40] <twit_army>  4) Start alsasound: /etc/init.d/alsasound start
[01:40] <twit_army> well, if no one know how to get the ipod working in kubuntu without recompiling the kernel....I'm off to either recompile or find a distro where it's not needed
[01:41] <_marc> marc@peace:~ $ apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <_marc> Package: kubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <_marc> Priority: optional
[01:41] <_marc> Section: misc
[01:41] <_marc> Installed-Size: 36
[01:41] <_marc> Maintainer: Andreas Mueller <amu@ubuntu.com>
[01:41] <_marc> Architecture: i386
[01:41] <_marc> Source: kubuntu-meta
[01:41] <_marc> Version: 0.55
[01:42] <_marc> Depends: {on a ton of packages}
[01:42] <_marc> Filename: pool/main/k/kubuntu-meta/kubuntu-desktop_0.55_i386.deb
[01:42] <_marc> Size: 8948
[01:42] <_marc> MD5sum: 2087cda5b29f8fc3e431201eba2d2263
[01:42] <_marc> Description: Kubuntu desktop system
[01:42] <_marc>  This package depends on all of the packages in the Kubuntu desktop system
[01:42] <_marc>  .
[01:42] <_marc>  It is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system packages are
[01:42] <_marc>  not desired.
[01:42] <_marc> Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <_marc> Origin: Ubuntu
[01:42] <_marc> so if adept wants to remove only kubuntu desktop its no biggy
[01:46] <globe> is there a way for me to use the windows display drivers for the intel855 chipset on ubuntu? (something like ndiswrapper?)
[01:50] <andrea_> ?
[01:50] <andrea_> hi
[01:50] <andrea_> am i in the right place?
[01:50] <ccc_> hi
[01:50] <andrea_> i am trying irssi
[01:50] <ccc_> if you're looking for #kubuntu, then yes :)
[01:51] <andrea_> in case i could have problems with kde in the future.. :)
[01:51] <andrea_> yes i am :)
[01:51] <andrea_> see ya
[01:53] <ccc_> _marc: correct
[01:54] <_marc> ??
[01:55] <ccc_> raveneye: kubuntu-desktop being a meta package, i.e. removable. i though it was a question :)
[01:56] <raveneye> ah ok... no it was an answer actually... lol sorry for spamming all that shit btw i got carried away...
[01:57] <ccc_> oh ok
[02:08] <nuky> i have a slight problem with my "sudo apt-cache serach <keyword>" feature.. even after an "sudo apt-get update", when i type "sudo apt-cache search galeon" it doesn't return anything but when i do "sudo apt-get install galeon", it installs it.. how can that be? should it not find it in search if it's there to install?
[02:09] <nuky> any help would be great! because i'm confused and not sure if my apt-cache/apt-get is working properly.. i don't want to mess up and dependancies or anything..
[02:10] <JohnFlux> nuky: strange
[02:10] <JohnFlux> nuky: does aptitude search   work?
[02:12] <nuky> yeah aptitude works fine.. i just tried it.. is that something similar to apt-get? i haven't used aptitude before..
[02:12] <callie> it showed up for me nuky
[02:13] <nuky> hmmm.. it seems to be something wrong with my cache/search..
[02:15] <nuky> does aptitude deal with depencies and the like in a similar way to apt-get? if i does, i might starting using that.. i opted for apt-get because i had probs with adept..
[02:17] <raveneye> hmmmm you dont have to sudo apt-cache search just $ apt-cache search should work nicely...
[02:18] <Datsunzoso> hey guys
[02:18] <raveneye> hi Datsunzoso
[02:18] <_jorge> hello
[02:18] <Datsunzoso> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion#head-26d21f8b635c06a9858f7bef322b3821c7545598
[02:18] <nuky> i'm still getting the same prob.. even without the sudo.. but apt-get update, has to be done with sudo?
[02:18] <Datsunzoso> Im having  trouble with installing firrefox
[02:40] <kameron> i haven't rebooted in nearly a month.. but when i did today, i got this message: "Loading UbuntuEBDA is big; kernel setup stack overlaps LILO second stage".. i use lilo. i couldn't figure out the problem, so i did a fresh install, to no avail, this still happens. anyone know the problem?
[02:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[02:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to create a fake empty file of a certain size?
[02:42] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: "touch" creates empty files, but i'm not sure how to give it "size"
[02:43] <Chousuke> Tallia1Kubuntu: you can also use dd to copy from /dev/zero
[02:44] <nalioth> Chousuke: explain please?
[02:44] <Chousuke> wait. fake empty file. hmm.
[02:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like a 100MB file
[02:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> with fake data inside
[02:45] <Datsunzoso> im tryin to get something into the /opt folder but it says that i dont have permission!? any ideas
[02:45] <Chousuke> Tallia1Kubuntu: if you want to make it so that it won't take any real space, then I don't know.
[02:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> non
[02:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it have to take real space
[02:45] <Chousuke> Tallia1Kubuntu: but with dd you can copy zeros from /dev/zero
[02:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> to obtain 100 MB?
[02:45] <Chousuke> yes.
[02:46] <Chousuke> dd if=/def/zero of=fakefile bs=1mb count=100
[02:46] <Chousuke> or something like that.
[02:46] <Datsunzoso> Can someone help me? I cant get firefox extracted into the /opt folder cause it says I dont have permission, any ideas?
[02:46] <Chousuke> Tallia1Kubuntu: see the manual page for more details
[02:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dd if=/dev/zero of=fakefile bs=1MiB count=100
[02:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx
[02:47] <Datsunzoso> help! :(
[02:50] <Datsunzoso> cmon i know you guys r out there lol
[02:51] <vge> you can do anything with sudo+command in console
[02:51] <nalioth> Datsunzoso: did you follow the instructions?
[02:51] <Datsunzoso> yea lol
[02:51] <Datsunzoso> it says for firefox i gotta extract the gz file into the /opt folder
[02:51] <nuky> where is the best place to find out about new kde software that's being released? i check kde dot news and kde-apps quite often.. is there anywhere else?
[02:51] <Datsunzoso> problem is that when i try extracting it to it it says that i dont have permission to do it
[02:52] <nalioth> that would probably be the best, unless you want to jump on a mailing list
[02:52] <nalioth> Datsunzoso: sudo tar xvzf file.tgz
[02:52] <nuky> Datsunzoso: maybe you should try to sudo it
[02:52] <nuky> thanks :)
[02:53] <Datsunzoso> problem that i have is that im a noob with this... this is only my 2nd day workign with linux
[02:53] <vge>  sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.0.1.tar.gz
[02:53] <vge> this is in the instructions
[02:53] <vge> follow em "lol" :P
[02:54] <Datsunzoso> lol
[02:54] <Datsunzoso> well thanks
[02:55] <Verithrax> Every time I try to view Flash in Konkeror it says it can't find an audio sink, nor a video sink, then crashes.
[02:55] <songo> i want to install skype, 'apt-cache search skype' cant find it!!!!!
[02:56] <nalioth> ubotu tell songo about skype
[02:57] <jind> !google skype ubuntu
[02:57] <ubotu> jind: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:57] <Borelia> !skype
[02:57] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[02:57] <Borelia> like this
[02:58] <nuky> is this channel's history avialble online anywhere?
[03:01] <songo> HOWTO get a high prioirity access to 'ps -A' to kill some process, i have VERY slow pc
[03:02] <nalioth> Kr4t05: wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcRules
[03:02] <Snake__> has anyone tried this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/reaim/
[03:03] <Borelia> anyone sucessfully using Zydas 1201 driver for usb wlan stick ?
[03:03] <Datsunzoso> ok now when im using firefox, it takes a while to load a page
[03:04] <Datsunzoso> it takes a long time to load a page
[03:09] <nalioth> Borelia: /msg ubotu wireless
[03:10] <songo> HOWTO get a high prioirity access to 'ps -A' to kill some process, i have VERY slow pc. it cant be that difficult
[03:11] <Kr4t05> How do I add multiple users via terminal?
[03:12] <Kr4t05> Rephrase: How can I create a user via terminal?
[03:13] <nalioth> Kr4t05: adduser
[03:13] <nalioth> er, sudo adduser
[03:14] <nalioth> i hate double posting.
[03:15] <_blackmore> Hi.  I'm having trouble upgrading to the kde 3.5.1 packages.
[03:16] <_blackmore> I added one of the new package lists, and installed the pgp key, as per the instructions on the page on getting 3.5.1 working ...
[03:17] <_blackmore> but if I sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ... then it says that several packages are being "held back"
[03:17] <_blackmore> I've also tried sudo apt-get update, and tried using Adept
[03:18] <anarko> para hispanoparlanteS??
[03:19] <anarko> quula es el canal para hispano aprlantes??
[03:19] <anarko> parlantes
[03:19] <Datsunzoso> chequea google
[03:19] <Datsunzoso> debe de haber uno
[03:19] <anarko> ok
[03:19] <anarko> eske era kubuntu_es o algo asi
[03:19] <anarko> k antes me lo an puesto
[03:20] <songo> sta algum kriolu na zona?
[03:20] <Borelia> nalioth:  thanks for the tip
[03:20] <nalioth> Borelia: any time
[03:21] <Datsunzoso> ...poop
[03:22] <Datsunzoso> From the command line, type ./flashplayer-installer to run the installer. The installer will instruct you to shut down your browser(s).
[03:22] <Datsunzoso> ^^^ How would i do that command in kubuntu? ^^^
[03:22] <Datsunzoso> sudo something but idk what lol
[03:23] <unix_infidel> hey guys, i'm on a thinkpad and your acpi packge is auto configured to change governors on powernowd and cpufreqd to change when i plug in / out the AC adapter.
[03:23] <unix_infidel> how can i configure this?
[03:24] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[03:26] <songo> skype doesnt work
[03:27] <songo> skype unable to start
[03:28] <songo> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:29] <nalioth> Datsunzoso: sudo <COMMAND>
[03:29] <nalioth> songo: ask in #ubuntu how to fix it, if the wiki doesnt tell you
[03:29] <Datsunzoso> yea i go it thanks :D
[03:30] <unix_infidel> anyone for my ACPI / ac adatper / cpufreqd question?
[03:31] <me2win> Datsunzoso, datsun!!
[03:31] <me2win>  you got it to work?
[03:39] <unix_infidel> rawr, anyone on my cpufreqd question.
[03:39] <iquniex> hi
[03:40] <unix_infidel> all i want is all this nonsense to NOT be enabled and me to be able to manage it with userspace governor at all times.
[03:40] <iquniex> do anyone know if kerner 2.6.15 exist whit kubuntu ?
[03:41] <bimberi> iquniez: dapper (the next release) will have 2.6.15
[03:41] <iquniez> I would like it to a computer who dont get internet on 2.6.12
[03:42] <iquniez> bimberi: when is it out ?
[03:42] <bimberi> !dapper
[03:42] <ubotu> well, dapper is the pre-release name for next edition of Ubuntu, release name 6.04. Due 20th April. It is Development Software - May Break! > /join #ubuntu+1 for IRC Use  http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[03:42] <shawkins> April
[03:43] <bimberi> iquniez: you can download prerelease versions now ...
[03:43] <bimberi> !getdapper
[03:43] <ubotu> getdapper is, like, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-4/ or get a daily build from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[03:43] <iquniez> tnx..
[03:43] <shawkins> or you could just use 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'..... gotta change the sources file to dapper though...
[03:44] <bimberi> iquniez: flight4 of ubuntu works well (i haven't tried kubuntu though)
[03:44] <iquniez> wil I have 2.6.15 kernel then ?
[03:44] <unix_infidel> lol, anyone have ANY insight on my ac adapter cpufreqd qusetion?
[03:45] <markc> could anyone provide me with an example kernel line from /boot/grub/menu.lst that boots an initrd.img please ?
[03:45] <iquniez> bimberi: I wil try it ;)
[03:45] <shawkins> bimberi: Kubuntu works great, I'm currently using it
[03:45] <bimberi> iquniez: kk :)  please note the "Development Software - May Break!" in that factoid though :)
[03:45] <bimberi> shawkins: good to hear, thanks :)
[03:46] <shawkins> with the minor exception somewhere in the upgrade process something got broken and it took out my ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop... had to reinstall that, all kinds of fun
[03:46] <iquniez> shawkins: Yes, but not on my other laptop, I dont get internet on it :S
[03:46] <markc> flight4, espressos doesn;t work properly and persistence doesn't work
[03:47] <markc> grep ^kernel /boot/grub/menu.lst ... anyone ?
[03:48] <shawkins> one sec
[03:49] <Celeste> hi
[03:49] <Celeste> how can I change the default font in "konsole" please?
[03:49] <Celeste> I tried it by using the settings dialog window but it did not change the font
[03:50] <markc> Celeste> Settings -> Font
[03:50] <shawkins> markc: heres the whole thing http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9777
[03:50] <Celeste> markc thank you
[03:50] <shawkins> never tried to change the font, however.... you may have to restart the program.. just a thought
[03:51] <markc> shawkins: thanks, so  does that boot via initrd ? (I thought there was a root=dev/ram0 real_root=/dev/hda1 kinda thing needed)
[03:51] <unix_infidel> anyone know how i can prevent the governor form changing on my laptop when i have the ac adapter in / out.??
[03:52] <unix_infidel> i want it to be set to userspace at all times.
[03:52] <sorush20> anyone here using kxdocker?
[03:53] <unix_infidel> :(
[03:54] <unix_infidel> these scripts are totally asinine, i dont even have laptop-mode package INSTALLED and even then the governors CHANGE?
[03:54] <shawkins> markc I couldn't say
[03:54] <shawkins> markc I'm not much of an expert when it comes to booting up stuff
[03:54] <GameOver69>  hey i have ati graphics card installed and used the default glx drivers.. but the games run soooooooooo slow... the simplest of them
[03:57] <markc> shawkins: np, thanks for the paste... I'll see if this gets me up and running ... see ya's!
[03:57] <GameOver69> no one can help :(
[03:58] <bimberi> ubotu tell GameOver69 about ati
[03:58] <GameOver69> bimberi, i read that but its only for drivers 8500 and up
[03:58] <GameOver69> i have radeon mobility 7500
[03:59] <bimberi> GameOver69: ah, kk, then i don't know sorry :|
[04:00] <GameOver69> :(
[04:00] <GameOver69> ill never have 3d in linux :(
[04:01] <unix_infidel> how can i tell if a process is running in kubuntu?
[04:01] <GameOver69> perfomance manager
[04:02] <GameOver69> perfomance monitor i mean
[04:02] <unix_infidel> i mean a daemon sorry.
[04:02] <unix_infidel> cli, not some stupid gui.
[04:02] <_curtis> will ps aux also be able to tell what process are running?
[04:03] <unix_infidel> this is fucking rediculous, its NOT powernowd.
[04:03] <unix_infidel> and it HAS TO BE acpi.
[04:03] <unix_infidel> but the script is totally commented out.
[04:04] <Celeste> me again ...
[04:04] <Celeste> what do I have to do when I cannot find a just installed program?
[04:04] <shawkins> what program?
[04:04] <Celeste> crack-md5
[04:04] <Celeste> I just installed this package and nether  "which" nor "whereis" can find it
[04:05] <Celeste> its also not startable by this name
[04:05] <shawkins> well... I see no reason to use such a program but..
[04:05] <shawkins> one sec
[04:05] <Celeste> thank you
[04:05] <bimberi> Celeste: dpkg -L <package> | grep bin
[04:06] <shawkins> thanks bimberi, I would have never figured that out.. was searching the web :)
[04:07] <bimberi> shawkins: np :) - it's very handy for packages that don't have an executable with the same name
[04:07] <Celeste> root@linux:~# dpkg -L md5-crack | grep bin
[04:07] <Celeste> Package `md5-crack' is not installed.
[04:07] <Celeste> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[04:07] <Celeste> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[04:07] <Celeste> root@linux:~#
[04:08] <Celeste> but I am sure THAT I installed it!
[04:08] <shawkins> please use pastebin...
[04:08] <Celeste> I am sorry
[04:08] <shawkins> !pastebin
[04:08] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:08] <Celeste> I thought there are not many people here ...
[04:08] <shawkins> regardless....
[04:08] <pussfeller> !flash
[04:08] <ubotu> somebody said flash was installation & troublshooting is covered in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:09] <shawkins> I'm out, talk to you all later
[04:09] <pussfeller> whats a standalone flv player
[04:22] <Kyral> hmm, KDE got good since 3 months ago
[04:26] <corey> Help: I'm trying to get my hotkeys on my laptop working in dapper.  When i installed ubuntu dapper, the hotkeys worked fine out of the box in gnome, but now it seems that KDE doesn't pick them up.  There are utils out there like hotkeys and using osd, but that is really ugly.  is there something nice in KDE like in Gnome for the onscreen display?
[04:56] <MiKuS> this channel seems kinda dead, is anyone around at the moment? :)
[04:59] <frank23> sometimes
[05:00] <MiKuS> hello
[05:00] <unix_infidel> how would i change my gtk themes if i'm running kubuntu?
[05:01] <MiKuS> i have a problem with both kubuntu, i install it onto my computer and it seems like everything is working fine but when it goes to load up the desktop and everything it just gives me command line
[05:01] <NeoChaosX> unix_infidel: in System Settings > Appearance > GTK styles and fonts
[05:01] <unix_infidel> NeoChaosX: where would i untar the file?
[05:01] <frank23> unix_infidel: in system settings there is a section for gtk themes
[05:01] <NeoChaosX> oh, i see
[05:02] <NeoChaosX> untar the file in ~/.theme
[05:02] <NeoChaosX> or ~/.themes, I'm not exactly sure
[05:02] <unix_infidel> nono, i want to untar a gtk theme for all gtk apps.
[05:02] <frank23> MiKuS: you never see the graphical login screen?
[05:02] <MiKuS> no, i have to login via command line
[05:03] <MiKuS> wierd thing is, SuSE 10 works fine
[05:03] <frank23> MiKuS: your Xorg configuration is probably not working.
[05:03] <unix_infidel> frank23: wtf do you mean.
[05:03] <unix_infidel> if i wanted to change the GTK Theme why would i need kde theme manager?
[05:04] <NeoChaosX> because there's an option to have GTK use the KDE theme
[05:04] <MiKuS> i typed in: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:04] <frank23> unix_infidel: There is some kind of gtk to kde wrapper that makes gtk apps look like kde apps
[05:04] <MiKuS> and it made me go through a few more settings which were allready correct
[05:04] <unix_infidel> frank23: nono, i dont want any of the kde apps to change.
[05:04] <unix_infidel> only the gtk themes.
[05:04] <unix_infidel> how would i enable that.
[05:05] <frank23> unix_infidel: I know. that setting  System Settings > Appearance > GTK styles and fonts only affects gtk apps
[05:05] <frank23> unix_infidel: I you select Keramik as KDE style, and Geramik as GTK style, apps look very similar
[05:06] <frank23> MiKuS: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is what I was going to suggest.
[05:06] <MiKuS> damn, looks like no kubuntu for me then :-\
[05:06] <frank23> MiKuS: you can try to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and change the video driver to vesa. maybe you will have better luck
[05:06] <unix_infidel> frank23: but what if i downloaded a new gtk theme and i want to install it?
[05:06] <frank23> unix_infidel: I don't know how to do that
[05:07] <unix_infidel> :(
[05:07] <unix_infidel> anyone else?
[05:07] <NeoChaosX> unix_infidel: then you untar it to the ~/.theme folder. the KDE component for changing GTK themese should see it and list it as a GTK  theme option
[05:08] <frank23> MiKuS: you can also check the forums. search for your specific video card maybe
[05:08] <MiKuS> thats what im doing now :)
[05:08] <MiKuS> i was just checking in here to make sure there wasent anything obvious that i'd been missing
[05:10] <Kyral> Whoa...am I falling in love with KDE lol
[05:10] <MiKuS> ?
[05:10] <MiKuS> heh
[05:10] <unix_infidel> NeoChaosX: theme or themes.
[05:10] <Kyral> how do I install those "deKorator" themes?
[05:10] <unix_infidel> NeoChaosX: and when i try to change themes it not coming up as part of the options.
[05:12] <farous> anyone know about a good wifi manager for kde other than kwifi that is at the same level as network-manager
[05:12] <runelind> my kubuntu won't boot because of a messed up xorg.conf file, how can I edit it during boot?
[05:12] <farous> runelind: it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:12] <farous> run safe boot
[05:13] <runelind> farous: how do I get into safe boot?
[05:13] <farous> it is one of the boot options of grub
[05:13] <bimberi> runelind: 'recovery mode' from the grub boot menu
[05:13] <MiKuS> ok, i think im going to give kubuntu another bash soon
[05:13] <runelind> grub just loads the default install and goes
[05:13] <runelind> i don't have an option
[05:13] <MiKuS> xD bash
[05:13] <MiKuS> bourne again!
[05:13] <farous> runelind: when grub first boot press escape
[05:14] <runelind> yup thar she blows
[05:14] <farous> runelind: and though xorg is messed it it should take you to a terminal by default. Just boot then at the end of the boot press ctrl alt F1
[05:15] <Kyral> anyone?
[05:16] <farous> now who removed the konsole from menu when i right click my mouse?
[05:16] <runelind> farous: ctrl-alt-backspace should do the same, right?
[05:17] <farous> runelind: ctrl alt backspace should start x
[05:17] <farous> if you are in x
[05:18] <runelind> ctrl-alt-backspace worked to shut down X
[05:20] <farous> sjk install build-essential
[05:23] <farous> did it go through
[05:23] <runelind> yeah
[05:23] <farous> great :)
[05:23] <runelind> had to do some tweaking to get my dell 2405fpw to work
[05:23] <runelind> default install picks a refresh rate that is out of range
[05:26] <Celeste> hi
[05:26] <leafw> any VRML plugin for Konqueror ?
[05:26] <Celeste> how can I recursivly create  md5sums of a directory please?
[05:53] <kameron> does anyone use lilo? can they give me a sample lilo.conf?
[05:59] <pussfeller> anybody got the OLD unreal tournament working
[06:25] <Josh43> For the record: Amarok 1.4 Beta 2 is out :)
[06:41] <Snake|Sleep> HEy guys, is there a way to control the volume via cli??
[06:42] <twarthe> what does "for that matter" actually mean?
[06:42] <robotgeek> Snake|Sleep: alsamixer/amixer
[06:42] <Josh43> twarthe, kindof depends on the context
[06:43] <Snake|Sleep> robotgeek: im tryin to make a script that can set the volume to 100%...what should I look into doing?
[06:43] <twarthe> Josh43: but what does the speaker feel like saying when adding this expression?
[06:43] <robotgeek> Snake|Sleep: get amixer, man amixer
[06:44] <Snake|Sleep> alright
[06:44] <robotgeek> Snake|Sleep: since you are now scripting, you can man :P
[06:44] <Snake|Sleep> :)
[06:45] <Josh43> twarthe, Well; to break down something like: The polar caps are melting - for that matter, so are the icebergs
[06:46] <Josh43> As in: the second part is tied in due to being the same "matter" or issue
[06:48] <Snake|Sleep> robotgeek: freakin awesome
[06:48] <Snake|Sleep> thank yo
[06:48] <Snake|Sleep> u
[06:48] <Snake|Sleep> :)
[06:51] <Snake|Sleep> robotgeek: I have the worlds best alarm clock :D
[06:57] <Josh43> Snake|Sleep, I dunno.. you seen kevin rose's? spits out rss headlines into an auto-mp3 (with a song first), then prints a news page generated by compliling all the feeds at once
[07:02] <seap> Hi folks...just did a dist-upgrade and upgrade from breezy to dapper, and now I won't boot. I'm not sure how else to explain it, it's like the bootloader hangs when the kernel is about to load. Is this happening to a lot of people?
[07:04] <seap> it happens after I select Ubuntu (I also have Windows, which booted properly)
[07:05] <twarthe> Josh43: thank you
[07:06] <seap> Any ideas? i have a LiveCD I could boot and i could chroot into my installation. would dist-upgrade and upgrade do anything to my kernel or to grub?
[07:06] <Josh43> twarthe, most welcome
[07:07] <Josh43> seap; are you sure the upgrade took fully? I had a problem with that when ubuntu thought I didn't have disk space
[07:07] <Josh43> (failed in the middle; rebooted; no boot)
[07:07] <seap> hmm
[07:08] <seap> i had thought it had gone through fully, but i was letting it run mostly unattended
[07:08] <Josh43> yeah, same
[07:08] <seap> if I chroot into my installation from a LiveCD, is there a way to re-do it or fix it?
[07:08] <Josh43> if someone knows the logfile for the upgrade, livecd - check it out
[07:09] <Josh43> and you should be able to (I was able to) just run the dist-upgrade again
[07:43] <pwn3r> hi
[08:12] <dumkopf> hello!
[08:13] <dumkopf> half an hour ago!
[08:14] <robotgeek> dumkopf: hey
[08:15] <robotgeek> you should probably just ask away, really
[08:17] <dumkopf> i don't have any questions, actually
[08:17] <dumkopf> i'm just idling, and waiting for someone to ask a question that i can answer!
[08:23] <Hobbsee> dumkopf: you can set up my wireless if you want :P
[08:23] <Borelia> i was just about asking the same !
[08:24] <Hobbsee> Borelia: you're having problems?
[08:24] <Borelia> http://zd1211.ath.cx/ following this guide i encounter problems
[08:25] <Borelia> Make sure you have your kernel sources in /usr/src/linux
[08:25] <Borelia> i dont have that entry linux
[08:25] <Borelia> i got rpm
[08:31] <Borelia> i answer myselfe i rewrite the make file
[08:33] <Hobbsee> ah right
[08:36] <Borelia> aargh new problem rpm only got empty subdirs build  scource etc
[09:24] <simian> morning all
[09:27] <Hobbsee> !amarok
[09:27] <ubotu> well, amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[09:27] <Hobbsee> !amarok1.4beta
[09:27] <ubotu> Hobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:31] <simian> !amarok
[09:31] <ubotu> [amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[09:31] <simian> cool
[09:31] <dumkopf> <3 amarok
[09:32] <simian> !k3b
[09:32] <ubotu> K3b was created to be a feature-rich and easy to handle CD burning application, for more info goto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[09:32] <simian> sorry i wont do it anymore
[09:32] <dumkopf> i don't care heh
[09:32] <dumkopf> it's 330am, everyone here is idling
[09:33] <dumkopf> i don't think you're pissing anyone off
[09:33] <simian> lol
[09:36] <mijndert> good morning all
[09:36] <maenty> morning
[09:37] <pulver> hello
[09:38] <mijndert> i hate snow and 700 km traffic jams :x
[09:41] <maenty> is there any command to install all dependencies automatically?
[09:41] <maenty> I'm currently in a dependency-hell, cannot install anything
[09:42] <maenty> I just installed Kubuntu yesterday, at first I could not even load X because no signal to the screen, finally after hours of battling, I found out that I need to install new display drivers. those drivers needs some libc++5 that I don't have, but they work anyway
[09:42] <maenty> Now, whatever I try to install with apt-get, it tells me about this dependency-problem
[09:42] <Hobbsee> what's the full error?  can you !pastebin it?
[09:43] <maenty> I tried to install this libstdc++5 with apt-get install libstdc++5 but it also needed something else
[09:43] <vega-> yes, it's really hard to solve a problem if one doesn't know what it is
[09:43] <maenty> ok
[09:43] <maenty> he following packages have unmet dependencies: xorg-driver-fglrx: Depends: libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1) but it is not going to be installed
[09:44] <maenty> then when I tried to install this lib:
[09:44] <maenty> he following packages have unmet dependencies: libstdc++5: Depends: gcc-3.3-base (>= 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[09:44] <maenty> Is there a way I can just automatically install all of this stuff that is depended by others?
[09:45] <maenty> I remember having the same kind of loop of dependency-problems in redhat some years ago. I ended up giving up in installing most of the program because always one depedns on other, then the other depedns on third one etc etc, never I can install the first one
[09:46] <maenty> I've heard that with using debian-based distro like kubuntu, I would not have any dependency-hell... :(
[09:46] <pulver> you cant install libstdc++5?
[09:46] <maenty> no because it depends on gcc-3.3-base
[09:46] <maenty> and probably if i try to install gcc-3.3-base it depends on someting else, and cannot be installed
[09:47] <maenty> it's never-ending loop
[09:47] <maenty> What I'm asking is, is there way to automatically install the whole loop to get rid of dependency-problem?
[09:48] <vega-> probably, how about finally pasting the actual command and output to pastebin.com instead of a few lines here and there?
[09:49] <simian> what is paistbin.com?
[09:49] <huitre> hi all
[09:50] <simian> hi
[09:50] <vega-> simian: dunno, nothing?
[09:50] <simian> what?
[09:50] <vega-> but pastebin.com is where you can paste stuff for others to see, logs, command output etc.
[09:51] <maenty> vega-: http://pastebin.com/586616
[09:52] <vega-> maenty: you tried running "apt-get -f install" with no packages as it suggests?
[09:53] <maenty> vega-: just a command: apt-get -f install ?
[09:53] <vega-> yes
[09:53] <vega-> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[09:54] <vega-> or sudo in front of course if you are not root
[09:54] <maenty> vega-: thanks.. stupid me :)
[09:54] <maenty> vega-: that was exactly the command that fixed the dependency-problems
[09:54] <pulver> what would that do anyway.. just install gcc-3.3-base?
[09:54] <maenty> vega-: I understood it wrong first, i though I have to apt-get -f install "package"
[09:55] <vega-> yep, sometimes you need that too
[09:55] <vega-> i'm off
[09:57] <maenty> vega-: thanks for your help, I appreciate it
[09:59] <vega-> np
[10:01] <maenty> Anyone knows if there is a reason why I cannot chmod a directory under /mnt/
[10:02] <maenty> I have mounted a FAT32-partition there, but I cannot write to that partition. I guess the reason is that only root has write rights in that /mnt/partition directory
[10:02] <maenty> However, when I try to chmod a+w partition there, it does not change
[10:03] <mijndert> sudo chown -R user:group /mnt/dir
[10:03] <maenty> Can the mount be done automatically when I start linux?
[10:04] <mijndert> yeah, goes thorugh /etc/fstab
[10:05] <mijndert> example: dev/hda1    /media/windows vfat  iocharset=utf8,umask=000  0    0
[10:05] <mijndert> mm /dev/hda1 that is
[10:20] <KaoticEvil> is there an easier way to mount a windows share than the method desribed in the wiki?
[10:20] <Tonio__> hi
[10:22] <KaoticEvil> described*
[10:23] <Hobbsee_away> KaoticEvil: manipulate the line "/dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0" to fit your system, and stick it in /etc/fstab
[10:24] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee_away: i get a permission error
[10:24] <vijay> hi, how to set default view as tree view in konqueror???
[10:24] <KaoticEvil> and its not an ntfs volume.. its a smb share...
[10:25] <KaoticEvil> i just got rid of my ntfs volume :)
[10:29] <Hobbsee_away> ah, ok
[10:30] <KaoticEvil> hehe
[10:30] <JohnFlux> vijay: um, just do View->Tree mode
[10:30] <JohnFlux> vijay: it should remember that
[10:30] <maenty> Is it actually possible to write on FAT32-partitions with linux?
[10:31] <maenty> I just seem not to be able to do it
[10:31] <maenty> no access
[10:31] <KaoticEvil> maenty: yes, its very possible.. i do it all the time
[10:31] <KaoticEvil> maenty: modify this line and put it into /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 /media/usb0 vfat ,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,users 0 0
[10:31] <maenty> "the document could not be saved, it was not possible to write to file:///mnt/storage/file.txt
[10:31] <KaoticEvil> just change the device and mount point
[10:32] <KaoticEvil> the rest should be perfectly fine
[10:32] <maenty> ok, thanks KaoticEvil
[10:32] <KaoticEvil> n/p
[10:32] <KaoticEvil> maenty: thats what i use for my flashdrive... and it's FAT32
[10:35] <vijay> johnFlux:thanks, but my problem is, it is not remembering it
[10:36] <lint> If I managed to fubar GRUB with another linux distro installation and I want to get rid of it and leave just my windows autoboot so I can do a fresh install of Kubuntu, how might I go about that
[10:36] <lint> Obviously I'd need to delete the partitions I created, but what utility would be the best
[10:47] <dumkopf> lint: if you can find a trial copy of PartitionMagic, it will rewrite your MBR and fix stuff.
[10:48] <KaoticEvil> you dont even need that...
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> any Windows 98 bootdisk with FDISk will do it... boot from the floppy, and run "FDISK /MBR"
[10:49] <KaoticEvil> it will rewrite the MBR to the standard MS configuration
[10:50] <KaoticEvil> and fdisk will also allow you to delete the partitions
[10:51] <KaoticEvil> YES! i got it :d
[10:52] <KaoticEvil> :D
[11:00] <KaoticEvil> i feel so powerful now :)
[11:11] <maenty> KaoticEvil: thanks for help. The writing to FAT32 works now
[11:11] <maenty> KaoticEvil: you used some firewall bug?
[11:12] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: did you figure it out?
[11:15] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: i did :)
[11:15] <Hobbsee> :D
[11:15] <KaoticEvil> maenty: firewall bug?
[11:15] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: the share names had spaces in them...
[11:15] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[11:15] <Hobbsee> how does one mount a share, anyway?
[11:15] <KaoticEvil> the SMB ones?
[11:16] <KaoticEvil> hang on.. ill paste the line from fstab
[11:16] <KaoticEvil> oh, and it should be noted that i cheated....
[11:16] <KaoticEvil> used the GUI tool from Disk and Filesystem settings :P
[11:18] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: to allow users to mount/unmount the SMB shares use this line "//{server}/{share} {mountpoint} smbfs noauto,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,users,credentials=/etc/fstab_smb_credentials_1 0 0"
[11:18] <Hobbsee> KaoticEvil: right
[11:18] <KaoticEvil> and in the "/etc/fstab_smb_credentials" file, its only 2 lines...
[11:18] <ronaldson40> hi
[11:19] <KaoticEvil> the username and password that you use to login to the server
[11:19] <ronaldson40> Is there any difference between Kubuntu and SUSE
[11:19] <KaoticEvil> yes
[11:22] <ronaldson40> wat sort of difference
[11:23] <KaoticEvil> software, configurations...
[11:23] <ronaldson40> is Kubuntu better than SUSE, how do u say its different...
[11:23] <KaoticEvil> its the same kernel... its just the configuration thats different
[11:23] <KaoticEvil> i think its better...
[11:23] <KaoticEvil> it certainly is faster, at least on my system
[11:23] <KaoticEvil> and to me, thats better
[11:23] <ronaldson40> which one Kubuntu or SUSE
[11:24] <KaoticEvil> IMO, kubuntu
[11:25] <ronaldson40> k
[11:25] <Hobbsee> ronaldson40: kubuntu
[11:25] <Hobbsee> i couldnt even *install* suse
[11:25] <KaoticEvil> i did :)
[11:25] <KaoticEvil> SuSE 9.1 Personal
[11:25] <Hobbsee> congratulations
[11:25] <KaoticEvil> took almost 6 hours to do it
[11:26] <Hobbsee> i got to the partitioner from a network install, and then it wanted to erase my entire disk, and wouldnt let me do anything else
[11:26] <KaoticEvil> LOL
[11:26] <KaoticEvil> that sucks
[11:26] <Hobbsee> ugh - even my entire configuration from scratch wiht kubuntu didnt take that long!
[11:26] <Hobbsee> mind you, i dont have my pbuilder yet
[11:26] <KaoticEvil> Hobbsee: nor did mine
[11:27] <KaoticEvil> about 2 hours or so for kubuntu install
[11:29] <Hobbsee> yep, sounds about right - from scratch
[11:29] <KaoticEvil> heh
[11:53] <flixor-away> hya everybody crimsun
[11:54] <crimsun> ?
[11:54] <flixor-away> the sentence should be hya everybody and crimsum i have a question
[11:54] <flixor-away> anyway i was wondering if you could help me setup my sound cause its not working
[11:55] <crimsun> ok, crimsun doesn't scale currently. We really need to fix this for Dapper+N.
[11:56] <flixor-away> ?? what crimsun
[11:57] <crimsun> meaning that I can't be invoked for _every_ sound problem
[11:57] <crimsun> what issue do you have?
[11:58] <flixor-away> well dunno i have no sound
[11:58] <Hobbsee> crimsun: that means you should impart your knowledge by updating  and adding to the wiki page?  :P
[11:58] <flixor-away> i have a old soundblaster live card the modules are loaded but still no sound
[11:59] <crimsun> Hobbsee: that already exists and is known as alsa.opensrc.org
[11:59] <flixor-away> alsamixer unmuted everything but no luck
[11:59] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ah ok, i'd not heard of that one
[11:59] <crimsun> Hobbsee: (unfortunately I just know too many quirks)
[11:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:59] <Hobbsee> add them to some page
[12:00] <crimsun> yeah, see the "really need to fix.." comment above
[12:01] <Hobbsee> ah, true
[12:01] <crimsun> flixor-away: pastebin: for i in $(cat /proc/asound/modules |awk '{ print $1 }'); do amixer -c$i; done
[12:05] <flixor-away> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/586728
[12:06] <flixor-away> shit need be back in 1 hour need to get my car from the garage
[12:07] <crimsun> flixor-away: mute 'IEC958 Optical Raw'; unmute 'Wave' and increase it; unmute 'Front' and increase it
[12:23] <maenty> Is there way to remove tabs completely in Konqueror?
[12:24] <maenty> And make it stop using tabs, and to use new windows instead of tabs?
[12:24] <nuky> does anyone know or a good personal wiki program for kde? i've been trying to get the vim plugin wikis to work but no luck..
[12:25] <maenty> Can someone help me. How to remove installed program? apt-get uninstall ?
[12:26] <nuky> maenty: i'm not sure how to remove the single tab but if you go to Settings -> configure konqueror -> web behaviour, then in the tabbed browsing section, you can change a lot of things about the way the tabs behave
[12:26] <jind> How can I make sudo not ask for a password when running "sudo /usr/sbin/hibernate" The script checks that it i running as root before executing hibernation and chown root:root /usr/sbin/hibernate && chmod +s /usr/sbin/hibernate does not work in this case.
[12:26] <jind> maenty: apt-get remove
[12:26] <maenty> thanks nuky
[12:30] <maenty> jind: thanks
[12:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[12:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why in windows once connected the cable the connection is recognized way faster than in linux?
[12:37] <JohnFlux> Tallia1Kubuntu: we need to plug mii into dbus
[12:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[12:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mii?
[12:38] <JohnFlux> Tallia1Kubuntu: run "mii-tool"
[12:38] <JohnFlux> Tallia1Kubuntu: it tells you when a lead is plugged in
[12:39] <JohnFlux> Tallia1Kubuntu: if the drivers support it :/
[12:39] <JohnFlux> Tallia1Kubuntu: what we need is to have a daemon which watches mii and then emits a signal to any listening application when a network lead is plugged in
[12:40] <JohnFlux> Tallia1Kubuntu: actually maybe dhcp already does that
[12:40] <JohnFlux> Tallia1Kubuntu: when you run "mii-tool" on your machine, does it say operation failed, or does it work?
[12:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> operation not permitted
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo mii-tool
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth1' failed: Operation not supported
[12:41] <JohnFlux> ah no it's fine
[12:41] <JohnFlux> eth0 is your main network card right?
[12:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[12:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is
[12:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ( another topic: is there a way to see last opened KDE files? i was working on a txt and i forget where i saved it:) )
[12:44] <Hobbsee> Tallia1Kubuntu: right click kicker, configure panel, menus, etc
[12:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok done :) tnx
[12:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> JohnFlux: Were you saying?
[12:47] <JohnFlux> what should happen is a deamon should watch mii-tool
[12:47] <JohnFlux> then when the link status changes, tells dhclient
[12:47] <JohnFlux> i was trying to google to see if ubuntu does this
[12:47] <JohnFlux> but i cannot find anything
[12:52] <sherdog> Hey all. Kubuntu/ubuntu/debian is basicly the same, right? I mean except for the GUI u can do the same with all 3, right?
[12:53] <JakubS> JohnFlux: networkmanager somehow gets info about link status - maybe from hal?
[12:54] <JohnFlux> JakubS: that's the way it should be done
[12:54] <JohnFlux> JakubS: but I doubt dhclient listens to hal
[12:54] <JohnFlux> JakubS: do you think it would be kde's job to restart dhclient?
[12:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone can instructu me on the message you have new mail when i log in the shell?
[12:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't have the minimum idea of what's that :)
[12:56] <JakubS> JohnFlux: kde by itself? i don't think so - but kde gui for networkmanager would be great
[12:56] <JakubS> i think somebody works on it already
[12:57] <JakubS> Riddell even had some screenies in his blog
[12:57] <Hobbsee> it requires a few bits from svn though
[12:57] <JakubS> btw: is it possible for networkmanager to start connecting _before_ login?
[12:58] <JohnFlux> I have no idea what networkmanager is ;)
[12:58] <Hobbsee> JakubS: it should - specify it in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:59] <Hobbsee> auto eth0, or whatever it is
[12:59] <Ilokaaaasu> what was the !nonfree formats command ?
[12:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone can instructu me on the message you have new mail when i log in the shell?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> !nonfree
[01:00] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:00] <JakubS> Hobbsee: whole point of networkmanager is that i don't care what is it - i have wired and wireless adapter and sometimes kernel changes their names
[01:00] <Ilokaaaasu> thx
[01:00] <morrow> !restrictedformats
[01:00] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:00] <Hobbsee> JakubS: true
[01:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !MAIL
[01:00] <ubotu> mail is probably another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[01:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !MAIL
[01:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !mail
[01:00] <ubotu> it has been said that mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[01:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !spooler
[01:01] <ubotu> Tallia1Kubuntu: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ??
[01:05] <Ilokaaaasu> any idea why i cant add any mp3s to my xmms list ?
[01:05] <Ilokaaaasu> but for example amarok plays them
[01:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no
[01:10] <JohnFlux> Ilokaaaasu: maybe install xmms-mad
[01:10] <Ilokaaaasu> that is ?
[01:11] <flixor-> so i am back
[01:11] <JohnFlux> Ilokaaaasu: sudo apt-get install xmms-mad
[01:11] <Ilokaaaasu> what is that
[01:11] <flixor-> sorry crimsun but i had an appointment for my car
[01:11] <JohnFlux> Ilokaaaasu: press alt+f2
[01:11] <flixor-> whitout my car no life
[01:11] <JohnFlux> Ilokaaaasu: type in "konsole"
[01:11] <JohnFlux> Ilokaaaasu: then type in "sudo apt-get install xmms-mad"
[01:12] <Ilokaaaasu> yes yes but what is that -mad in the end :P
[01:12] <JohnFlux> oh forget it
[01:13] <Ilokaaaasu> ok it worked thx :P
[01:14] <flixor-> crimsun: are you still here
[01:14] <JohnFlux> :)
[01:15] <nuky> how on earth do you install skype in kubuntu? this is crazy..
[01:16] <Hobbsee> !skype
[01:16] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[01:17] <nuky> ah.. thanks!
[01:18] <Hobbsee> no problems :)
[01:27] <lubo> hello guys, what does it mean when I get from apt: The following packages have been kept back:
[01:27] <lubo> why are packages kept back?
[01:30] <bimberi> lubo: was this an apt-get upgrade?
[01:31] <lubo> bimberi: yes apt-get upgrade
[01:31] <lubo> not sure what is the reason for this...probably simple question for you :-))
[01:31] <Hobbsee> lubo: which packages are kept back?  use the !pastebin
[01:32] <lubo> adept amarok java-gcj-compat kaffeine kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kmail kubuntu-desktop language-support-en librdf0 linux-image-386
[01:32] <lubo>   linux-restricted-modules-386 openoffice.org2 openoffice.org2-kde python-mysqldb python-soappy python-uno python2.4-mysqldb ubuntu-standard
[01:32] <lubo>   wvdial
[01:32] <bimberi> lubo: it means that there were changes to the dependencies of packages that have upgraded, 'apt-get upgrade' won't install them because it will only update existing packages.  doing 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will install them
[01:33] <bimberi> lubo: ... actually it might even remove some too
[01:33] <Hobbsee> lubo: you might want to do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:34] <lubo> so you recommend to issue command
[01:34] <lubo> adept amarok java-gcj-compat kaffeine kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kmail kubuntu-desktop language-support-en librdf0 linux-image-386
[01:34] <lubo>   linux-restricted-modules-386 openoffice.org2 openoffice.org2-kde python-mysqldb python-soappy python-uno python2.4-mysqldb ubuntu-standard
[01:34] <lubo>   wvdial
[01:34] <Hobbsee> and that should upgrade it all in the same way
[01:34] <lubo> sorry
[01:34] <bimberi> lubo: um, no :P
[01:35] <lubo> ok so first apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[01:35] <lubo> and then apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:36] <reto> Since my last dapper update I did yesterday openoffice has gone :-(
[01:36] <bimberi> lubo: yes, the first command might do it all anyway
[01:37] <Hobbsee> reto: you're sure it's gone, or was it replaced by openoffice.org?
[01:37] <lubo> thanks bimberi and Hobbsee, i wil try it right now..:-)
[01:37] <Hobbsee> instead of openoffice.org2?
[01:37] <bimberi> lubo: yw :)
[01:38] <reto> What I can tell is that there is no more openoffice installed,
[01:38] <Nomad411> Is it possible to restart kicker?  It's using up half my memry, probably because of the refreshes for running processes appearing in it.
[01:38] <reto> it was openoffice.org2, as it was a fresh kubuntu dapper install
[01:39] <reto> no I'd like to get writer back without downloading to much
[01:39] <lubo> BTW: does enyone have o problem with firefox? I cannot get firefox ask me when I'm downloading something even I have changed the setting
[01:39] <reto> but checking it in adept causes "BREAK (install)" to be shown in the Requested column
[01:40] <lubo> it alwas download  the file to desktop a\ro semewhere else what I do not even know where? It never ask where I want to save file...
[01:41] <reto> @lubo firefox hasjust a default place, usually Desktop for downloads
[01:41] <reto> but when it opens a file it is stored to /tmp
[01:41] <lubo> reto I know that and I have changes the setting to ask me first before download... and it still save it somewhere.. it never never ask
[01:43] <reto> I think with dapper firefox has problems keepings its settings (not sure), if it only after restarting?
[01:43] <lubo> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop does not help ?!? :-)
[01:44] <reto> it seems oo-writer is installble alone after removing openoffice.org-debian-files
[01:46] <lubo> reto..it seems you are right.... I had to restart firefox after I chage setting:-)) thanks ...no it works...
[01:47] <reto> oh! actually I though settings may get lost with a restart...
[01:47] <lubo> :-))
[01:49] <lubo> thanks for help..need to go now:-))
[02:02] <_sara> ddddddddd
[02:14] <l_r> hello
[02:15] <dumkopf> hi there
[02:15] <l_r> what's the latest kernel version available from the repos?
[02:15] <dumkopf> looks like 2.4.27
[02:15] <l_r> ?
[02:15] <dumkopf> er
[02:15] <dumkopf> sorry
[02:15] <dumkopf> looking at wrong part of output
[02:16] <dumkopf> 1.6.15-17
[02:16] <l_r> ok
[02:16] <l_r> thanks
[02:16] <dumkopf> 2.6.15-17
[02:16] <dumkopf> rather
[02:17] <dumkopf> yeah it's 2.6.15-17
[02:29] <phisrow> Greetings all. Would anybody mind helping me out with an X11 problem I've been having?
[02:45] <Einhard> hi
[02:45] <phisrow> Greetings.
[02:46] <Olegs> hi
[02:46] <Einhard> I'm new to linux, just changed from ms product to kubuntu..and my kopete hangs up, whenever I'm writing a msg...some help? :)
[02:47] <phisrow> Hard hang, or more of a hiccup? Also, specs?
[02:48] <Einhard> "an unknown error occured"
[02:48] <phisrow> Which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[02:48] <Einhard> 5.10
[02:48] <phisrow> And are you having trouble with any other programs?
[02:48] <Einhard> i do not really know, i just need an icq connection, to get some help, that's my prob
[02:49] <Einhard> just installed kubuntu, i'm fed up of buggy ms products
[02:50] <phisrow> Indeed, indeed. Test a couple of things for me, if you would: Are the other major programs working properly? and Does Kopete work properly with other protocols e.g. AIM or MSN?
[02:51] <Einhard> i'm going to try msn
[02:51] <Einhard> just a moment
[02:51] <phisrow> Ok.
[02:52] <Einhard> msn works properly
[02:53] <phisrow> Alright, so it's a localized bug. Let me test Kopete with ICQ on my box(6.04). I'll see what it does.
[02:55] <Einhard> ok, thank you. :-)
[02:55] <phisrow> I'll just be a couple of minutes.
[02:56] <Einhard> I brought some time.
[02:57] <ccc_> icq with kopete works great here. could be your account setup.
[02:58] <Einhard> well, i receive messages, just hangs up, when i send some message
[02:58] <_luca> hello
[02:58] <phisrow> Greetings _luca.
[02:58] <Einhard> hello _luca.
[02:58] <phisrow> Einhard, your problem is rather curious.
[02:58] <_luca> i need linux 2.6.15. how can install it? it doesn't appear in synaptic
[02:59] <Einhard> i tried to download alternative icq clients, but, as i said, i'm new to linux, so i don't know, how to install them.
[02:59] <_luca> i think i need to update some sources, right?
[03:00] <phisrow> Are your running 5.10 or 6.04?
[03:00] <_luca> me?
[03:00] <phisrow> Yes.
[03:00] <_luca> i do not remember. how do i know this?
[03:01] <_luca> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:01] <spacehop2> hi all
[03:01] <p_k> k3b says writing speed ~ 12.000 kB ( 8,2 x ) but really does just ~ 1,7 x -.-
[03:01] <phisrow> When you installed Kubuntu, did you install the current release(Breezy Badger) or the prerelease (Dapper Drake)?
[03:01] <spacehop2> ubuntu,, then update
[03:01] <spacehop2> 21000 updates
[03:02] <_luca> phisrow: i do not remember. i installed the system on 22 dec and i downloaded it on 21 dec
[03:02] <phisrow> _luca, probably Breezy, then.
[03:03] <_luca> phisrow: it's breezy, it's not an alpha or prerelease
[03:03] <ninHer> hi all
[03:03] <spacehop2> im lloking for a chat with the syntax of notts
[03:03] <spacehop2> anyone help
[03:03] <_luca> phisrow: ok. i need to install 2.6.5 if available. apt-get only shows 2.6.12 max
[03:03] <spacehop2> all my mate are at work
[03:03] <p_k> does anybody have an idea with my k3b-speed problem? :)
[03:03] <ccc_> Einhard: there's lots of clients, like gaim and psi. i prefer kopete though. :) you should read up on help.ubuntu.com on how to install stuff. or check the wiki, or the faq mentioned in the topic.
[03:04] <Einhard> Thank you, ccc_  i'm going to rtfm ;)
[03:04] <phisrow> _luca, you can download the kernel sources and build a 2.6.5 kernel manually; but I don't think you'll be able to go any higher than 2.6.12 in apt.
[03:04] <ccc_> Einhard: you haven't changed the server setting for icq in kopete, right?
[03:04] <_luca> phisrow: ok. thanks
[03:04] <Einhard> no, just started
[03:05] <ccc_> ok
[03:06] <phisrow> _luca, if you do want to go down that path, documentation for distros like Gentoo and LFS would probably be of help to you. They focus more on that sort of thing.
[03:08] <_ubuntu> can i install kubuntu live cd to the hard drive?
[03:08] <ccc_> no, only the install+live dvd.
[03:09] <_ubuntu> where's the link to that?
[03:09] <ccc_> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[03:09] <_ubuntu> thanx
[03:10] <visik7> is there a program like dumeter ?
[03:12] <lint> Someone mind helping me install kbfx on dapper?
[03:20] <_mihai> i want to buy a pc to act as a server. who can aid me into the whole process?
[03:21] <_mihai> or can you give me some liks perhaps?
[03:25] <maenty> where can I change behaviour preferences like clicking 1 or 2 times to open a folder?
[03:28] <_mihai> i have an isp that has restricted my access to port 80. can i specify at the domain registration a port after my ip?
[03:29] <ccc_> maenty: system settings > mouse > general
[03:29] <maenty> thanks ccc
[03:30] <Einhard> I thin, I'm despairing on this.
[03:30] <maenty> I noticed one strange thing. When I go to System Settings from K -> System Settings, it is completely different than the System button beside K, and settings from there
[03:30] <maenty> Although they both have "KDE Components", the KDE Components is completely different in them
[03:32] <ccc_> maenty: yes, system settings is the rearranged kubuntu version of kcontrol. :)
[03:32] <ccc_> Einhard: problems?
[03:34] <maenty> Also I can't find a place where I can change the background color of the Konqueror file manager
[03:34] <Einhard> yeah ccc_ , many of them.
[03:35] <maenty> BTW, is the menu transparency option disabled in all themes for me because of none of the default themes support it? Or is it something about my display adapter driver?
[03:35] <Einhard> first problem is, that my native language is not english, so i don't understand the whole FAQ
[03:35] <ccc_> maenty: that's in the view-menu in konqueror
[03:35] <Einhard> and i can't find the "Down Arrow" mentioned in the faq, so i can't install sth.
[03:36] <maenty> ccc_: thanks
[03:37] <maenty> Are there any other good file managers?
[03:37] <maenty> Konqueror seems not to have "auto arrange" option.. it's a bit annoying that after I delete a file, I have to arrange the files again
[03:37] <lint> How do i make Konqueror automatically list all files as a "list with detail" on default?
[03:37] <maenty> And also the outlook seems not to change, whenever I click "up", the view changes completely away from the "list" view I had chosen
[03:39] <ccc_> maenty: some people like krusader better, it's a twin-panel file manager.
[03:39] <maenty> lint: there seems to be no such thing
[03:39] <lint> You're kidding me
[03:40] <maenty> lint: try: Settings -> Save view profile
[03:40] <lint> right on, let me try that
[03:40] <maenty> lint: That made it work for me, I'm using MultiColumn view, however, whenever you press the "UP" button, the view settings go all messed up
[03:41] <maenty> ccc_: For me, I'd just like to have simple "list" view, the "MultiColumn" in Konqueror is just perfect
[03:41] <lint> btw, im new to linux, but is there a more efficient way to get a new wallpaper other than downloading it to your desktop, opening a terminal, then doing a sudo cp file.jpg /usr/share/wallpapers?
[03:41] <lint> The browser on default wont allow me to save there ;/
[03:41] <maenty> lint: You can open a picture file with GwenView and then from settings -> set as wallpaper
[03:42] <maenty> lint: It was somewhere in the menu, that option, to set as wallpaper.
[03:42] <maenty> lint: or if you use FireFox browser, then I think you can do it directly from there so you don't need to save the picture in local hard disk first
[03:43] <lint> really, i was in firefox, no such option
[03:43] <maenty> let me see...
[03:43] <lint> nope
[03:44] <lint> unless its a plugin
[03:44] <maenty> lint: you are right... It seems to be missing in the Linux version of firefox
[03:44] <lint> that's just terrible ;/
[03:45] <maenty> lint: then you just need to save it to desktop, or wherever, and open it with the Gwenview program
[03:45] <lint> cool
[03:45] <maenty> lint: at least from there you can for sure select "set as wallpaper" from menu
[03:45] <maenty> lint: I just set my wallpaper with that one, a moment ago
[03:45] <lint> right on
[03:46] <lint> another question, i just installed xchat through the package updater, it successfully installed
[03:46] <lint> a) why doesn't it show in any of my menus
[03:47] <maenty> Konqueror totally sucks.. it messes up the view setting whenever you click "UP". Does anyone know simple, not two-panel file manager ?
[03:47] <lint> and b) if thats supposed to happen, isn't it annoying opening a terminal everytime and typing xchat?
[03:47] <maenty> lint: If it doesn't show in menus, you can make a new shortcut
[03:47] <maenty> right click on K, then "edit menus"
[03:47] <lint> ah
[03:47] <lint> I guess linux does that on default to prevent the clutter seen in windows
[03:48] <maenty> lint: Then you get into "KDE Menu Editor", and from there you can move/delete/add new shortcuts
[03:48] <_mihai> i want to configure a pc to act as a server powered by linux... what should i do 4 that?
[03:48] <maenty> lint: For me, most of the programs that I've installed so far, have shown in the menu
[03:49] <lint> aight, xchat switch time, bbias
[03:49] <maenty> lint: I just installed Linux yesterday so I'm also quite new in Linux, however I used to have Red Hat some years ago
[03:49] <lint> maenty: ah cool, appreciate the help
[03:49] <maenty> lint: np
[03:50] <maenty> Question to anyone: Can I be in X while I do apt-get upgrade? or is it unable to upgrade KDE and stuff while I'm in X?
[03:50] <lint> ah much better
[03:51] <maenty> lint: have you done apt-get update / apt-get upgrade yet?
[03:51] <lint> maenty: yes
[03:51] <maenty> lint: Do you know if I can be in X while I do that? Or is it unable to upgrade KDE and stuff ?
[03:51] <lint> maenty: you can
[03:51] <maenty> lint: ok, thanks
[03:52] <apokryphos> maenty: make sure you relogin after it's done however
[03:52] <maenty> apokryphos: just relogin, without restart, is enough?
[03:52] <apokryphos> maenty: if you're just upgrading kde, yes.
[03:52] <maenty> I'll upgrade everything
[03:52] <apokryphos> maenty: are you going to dapper?
[03:52] <maenty> I won't do dist-upgrade, just normal upgrade
[03:53] <lint> Good ol' Dapper
[03:53] <maenty> dist-upgrade would go in Dapper, right?
[03:53] <apokryphos> maenty: so you're staying on breezy? If you're not changing kernel, then there's no need to restart.
[03:53] <apokryphos> maenty: it would only take you to dapper if you altered your sources.list
[03:53] <_mihai> i want to configure a pc to act as a server powered by linux... what should i do 4 that?
[03:54] <maenty> apokryphos: I have put a "complete sources" that I got from someone in IRC
[03:54] <lint> Does something special need to be done to install the plugins to get firefox playing embedded videos in Dapper?
[03:54] <maenty> apokryphos: not sure whether those sources are for dapper
[03:54] <lint> The method before isn't working for me
[03:55] <apokryphos> maenty: well, what do they say? "Breezy"?
[03:55] <maenty> O
[03:55] <maenty> I'll check
[03:55] <lint> Well it looks like i just found a bug
[03:56] <apokryphos> _mihai: install it but select the "server" install on bootup.
[03:56] <maenty> apokryphos: breezy it is
[03:56] <lint> odd
[03:56] <maenty> I'll do the upgrade now
[03:56] <lint> xmms just claimed my soundcard got pwned after i did a massive dir list in Konqueror
[03:56] <apokryphos> lint: you just need mozilla-mplayer or something
[03:56] <lint> apok: tried that
[03:57] <apokryphos> lint: if it's to stream/play w32 stuff you'll need the w32codecs too
[03:57] <lint> installed those too
[03:59] <lint> I guess i'll do it again to makes ure
[03:59] <apokryphos> ok
[04:00] <lint> Yeah i'm about Kubuntu, I can easily see this replacing my win box, I just need to graphically spruce it up
[04:03] <kitsch> lint: i suggest crystal window decoration and qtcurve style. and that you delete your win partition as soon as possible :)
[04:03] <_grajkoo> hi.. i have a litlle offtopic question :))) How to print OO2 impress slides with notes?
[04:05] <lint> hmm
[04:05] <lint> still can't get video playing
[04:06] <lint> kitsch: thanks for the suggestions
[04:11] <lint> Yeah any help? I've followed every install possible
[04:12] <lint> i guess i'll try relogging in *shrugs* brb
[04:16] <lint> still no dice ;/
[04:17] <[muttox] > anyone ever had amarok freeze on building collection?
[04:19] <lint> muttox: I use xmms, so I wouldn't know, sorry
[04:20] <[muttox] > yeah im trying to go for the whole integration of environment this time though so i must defeat amarok :)
[04:20] <[muttox] > seems to freeze when i select a particular directory, which one though i dunno since its recursive folder search
[04:30] <maenty> how to enable audio on VLC?
[04:32] <HymnToLife> maenty> download the uio plugin
[04:32] <maenty> vlc-uio? ok
[04:32] <HymnToLife> vlc-plugin-ALSA/OSS/whatever
[04:32] <HymnToLife> audio*
[04:33] <lint> If i've installed everything needed, anyone have a clue why firefox wont play flash or video?
[04:33] <maenty> the video in div-x movies works fine, only the sounds I can't hear
[04:33] <maenty> lint: u got 64bit version?
[04:33] <lint> no
[04:33] <HymnToLife> maenty> the pugin is called VLC-plugin-ALSA/OSS/ArTS/whatever
[04:33] <HymnToLife> depending of the audio engine you use obviously
[04:34] <maenty> HymnToLife: How can I check which audio engine I got?
[04:35] <maenty> In Windows I had Media Player Classic, one player that could play all possible kinds of audio/video
[04:35] <maenty> I'd hope to get same situation in Linux
[04:36] <maenty> or 2 programs is ok too, one for audio, one for all video
[04:36] <maenty> What do you recommedn for best audio program? XMMS? how about for video?
[04:36] <maenty> is VLC best video player?
[04:36] <maenty> I noticed that it doesn't support subtitles...
[04:36] <HymnToLife> it does
[04:36] <maenty> needs plugin?
[04:36] <HymnToLife> you just need to search for it a bit
[04:37] <HymnToLife> and if you don't know which engine you use, you probably use ALSA
[04:37] <maenty> I have some integrated audio, probably AC97 or something
[04:37] <maenty> that works with ALSA?
[04:38] <HymnToLife> yes
[04:38] <HymnToLife> at least for me ir does
[04:42] <simian> !inode
[04:42] <ubotu> simian: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:45] <maenty> HymnToLife: thanks
[04:45] <HymnToLife> yw
[04:55] <Itze_> hey there. Can someone tell me, how i change my desktop from gnome to kde, after getting the kubuntu-desktop package via apt-get?
[04:58] <arrinmurr> Itze_: logout, choose kde and login?
[05:13] <yalu> question. I just installed kubuntu, and I am wondering: why, if you click on one of the icons in the the "system places" menu in the taskbar, does it open a new tab in Konqueror instead of a new window? imho that behavious is braindead. Also, where have the view profiles in Konqueror gone?
[05:25] <visik7> is there a program like virtualdub ?
[05:25] <arrinmurr> visik7: avidemux comes closest
[05:25] <visik7> thanks
[05:25] <visik7> but is it in repositries?
[05:25] <visik7> I can't find it
[05:26] <arrinmurr> visik7: no, but there's a package for it elsewhere
[05:26] <visik7> why isn't in repos ? licensing ?
[05:27] <arrinmurr> visik7: i don't know. and i don't remember just now where i found a package for it
[05:31] <Olegs> hi people
[05:35] <arrinmurr> visik7: here's the version i'm using, but it doesn't seem to be the latest anymore http://rapidshare.de/files/8944662/avidemux-2.1.0-1_i386.deb.html , you'll also need some additional packages to run it. those are (at least): liblame0 , libfaad2-0 , libxvidcore4 , libsmjs1 , libfaac0 and liba52-0.7.4
[05:36] <visik7> arrinmurr: I've got the source from marillat and I'm recompiling it from source
[05:36] <HymnToLife> I personnally compile avidemux
[05:37] <arrinmurr> visik7: ok
[05:37] <HymnToLife> but you can also install it from Automatix (hopes seveas doesn't read that)
[05:37] <Olegs> what is Automatix? a script?
[05:37] <visik7> I don't like automatix
[05:37] <visik7> !automatix
[05:37] <HymnToLife> a virtualdub-like soft Olegs
[05:37] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation. (see !easyubuntu)
[05:37] <lolina> is it better dapper or breezy for a desktop computer?
[05:38] <HymnToLife> i don't either
[05:38] <HymnToLife> that's why I compile avidemux
[05:38] <HymnToLife> oh, damn no
[05:38] <maenty> any suggestions to a good file browser?
[05:38] <visik7> what's wrong with konqueror?
[05:39] <HymnToLife> yes automatix is a script to install several things Olegs but btter not use it
[05:39] <arrinmurr> HymnToLife: automatix seems to install the same version that's available as a deb there
[05:39] <maenty> does anyone else have problem with konqueror: when you press "UP", sometimes it suddenly changes the view into wrong one and all folders are in mess?
[05:39] <HymnToLife> maenty> no
[05:39] <HymnToLife> it changes the view to whatever you tell il to..
[05:40] <maenty> HymnToLife: how do I achieve that?
[05:40] <HymnToLife> well
[05:40] <HymnToLife> ifyou chnged the view setting in a dir
[05:40] <HymnToLife> konqueror will change the view whenever you enter that dir
[05:40] <maenty> HymnToLife: I'd like all possible views to be "multiline view" or whatever that is, equal to Explorers "list"
[05:40] <maenty> HymnToLife: no, that's not correct
[05:40] <HymnToLife> hmm
[05:41] <HymnToLife> there might be a way to configure all dirs with a specific view setting
[05:41] <maenty> HymnToLife: I have changed that directory to "multiline" and then when I go away from it to other directory, and press "UP" button to come back, it is ruined
[05:41] <HymnToLife> but I don't know it
[05:41] <arrinmurr> maenty: and you have saved the view settings?
[05:41] <maenty> if I come back with "back" button, it never ruins it
[05:41] <maenty> arrinmurr: yes, I've saved the view settings
[05:41] <maenty> this seems to especially happend when I come to the root directory
[05:42] <maenty> or all the way to desktop, it always changes the view
[05:42] <maenty> even though every time I change it to that multiview and then "save"
[05:42] <maenty> however, after I did upgrade I can't see the file browser icons in desktop anymore at all
[05:43] <maenty> so only way to browse files seems to be to open the konqueror "web browser"
[05:46] <HymnToLife> ?onqeror is konqueror
[05:46] <HymnToLife> if you use if as file or web browser
[05:46] <HymnToLife> it's the same app
[05:46] <maenty> yes I know it's the same app
[05:47] <maenty> but only way to access my  files now is to go K -> Internet -> Web Browser (Konqueror)
[05:47] <maenty> as the desktop icons have mysteriously disappeared
[05:47] <HymnToLife> hmmthat's funny
[05:47] <maenty> and I don't see konqueror link anywhere else in the menu
[05:48] <maenty> does anyone know how to enable the desktop icons to hard drives?
[05:50] <djib> I have something weird with kopete: everytime someone sends me a file, there is a transfer and it takes a while, but then the received file is 0 Mb !
[05:50] <tomas__> is there anyone that has got vloopback working?
[05:54] <arrinmurr> djib: that's a known bug, which has been fixed - i've heard - in the latest development version
[05:54] <djib> ok arrinmurr
[05:54] <djib> thanks
[06:03] <lint> ah differential equations how i love thee
[06:03] <lint> thank god that class is over
[06:07] <_tom> exit
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> was it something I said?.. :)
[06:21] <maenty> does anyone know how can I make KDE to make automatically icons to desktop from my hard drives?
[06:22] <maenty> It used to do it initially automatically, but after apt-get upgrade the icons mysteriously disappeared
[06:22] <rysiek|pl> o_O
[06:22] <rysiek|pl> what KDE version, and what Kubuntu version?
[06:22] <maenty> Breeze, default KDE version I guess
[06:23] <maenty> 3.4.3 it seems
[06:23] <rysiek|pl> strange, got Breezy and default KDE and all is ok o_O
[06:23] <maenty> Now I have to use the Web Browser (konqueror) from the menu to open konq...
[06:23] <maenty> No other way to browse files
[06:24] <rysiek|pl> maenty: and what about the System menu on the KPanel?
[06:24] <rysiek|pl> (right next to KMenu)
[06:24] <maenty> I've removed that one
[06:24] <rysiek|pl> d'oh
[06:24] <maenty> ok I added  that, now when I open "storage media", it shows just empty
[06:24] <rysiek|pl> frankly, I have no idea, how to help - I just don't know, what conf file might it be :/
[06:24] <maenty> media:/ and all empty
[06:25] <rysiek|pl> maenty: I remember I had thet some time ago, but it got fixed with the next update
[06:25] <rysiek|pl> maybe try forums or wiki
[06:25] <HymnToLife> fhis is one think I hate from KDE
[06:25] <HymnToLife> those media :/ things
[06:25] <rysiek|pl> namely?
[06:26] <rysiek|pl> a
[06:26] <HymnToLife> damn it would be much simple to just use file ://media...
[06:26] <rysiek|pl> yep, I just don't get it, why those guys added it
[06:26] <rysiek|pl> it blurs the image and confuses, that's all
[06:26] <rysiek|pl> (but it's more Windoze-like :/ )
[06:28] <maenty> I'll try if another restart helps
[06:29] <rysiek|pl> do that, but it's rather unlikely :/
[06:44] <sveri> hi, i have a computer with onboard nic, i can ping my own nic (192.168.15.13) but no other in my network, gateway and subnet ist set correctly, does somebody have an idea what the problem could be?
[06:48] <rysiek|pl> sveri: yep - configuration :)
[06:49] <rysiek|pl> sveri: can you do in console: ifconfig
[06:49] <rysiek|pl> and tell me, if there's "eth0" or "eth1" or any other "eth" in the output?
[06:49] <sveri> yea, there is eth1
[06:49] <sveri> aeh yes
[06:50] <sveri> like it shoukd be
[06:50] <rysiek|pl> ok, what is the inet addr of eth1?
[06:51] <rysiek|pl> (it's within the ifconfig output)
[06:51] <sveri> 192.168.15.13
[06:51] <sveri> its an realtek 8139C+ nic
[06:51] <rysiek|pl> ok, what is the address of any other computer on your network?
[06:52] <sveri> 192.168.15.1 for instance
[06:52] <rysiek|pl> ok, and you can't ping it? strange... try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:53] <rysiek|pl> and after that: ping 192.168.15.1
[06:53] <sveri> i already tried that
[06:53] <rysiek|pl> ok, just going step-by-step ;)
[06:53] <sveri> *fg ok
[06:53] <rysiek|pl> tried editing /etc/network.interfaces?
[06:53] <sveri> yea, i did
[06:54] <rysiek|pl> incoming one stupid question: is the cable connected and is the cable OK?
[06:54] <sveri> i set up the other boxes hier with dhcp and everything worked fine, but on this computer it doesn't work
[06:54] <sveri> yea, i have windows installed on it too and there everything works fine with a fixed ip
[06:54] <rysiek|pl> tried setting a fixed IP on Linux then?
[06:54] <sveri> yes
[06:55] <rysiek|pl> no good?
[06:55] <rysiek|pl> :/
[06:55] <zygis> kfalv
[06:55] <sveri> i have no idea what the problem maybe
[06:55] <zygis> sg;f
[06:55] <zygis> fsga
[06:55] <zygis> fsgas
[06:55] <zygis> aa
[06:56] <zygis> aaa6a-opfas
[06:56] <zygis> a'f
[06:56] <zygis> asd
[06:56] <rysiek|pl> sveri: I once had a problem with my nic not communicatong with a switch - the manufactorers didn't like on eanother and made the devices not communicate o_O But as you say - you have it working under Windows
[06:56] <rysiek|pl> !ops
[06:56] <ubotu> Help! lilo, fabbione, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot or ompaul
[06:56] <sveri> rysiek|pl: its really strange, hm, i'll try setting up another pci nic
[06:57] <rysiek|pl> sveri: tried searching ubuntu/kubuntu forums and wiki?
[06:57] <sveri> no, thats another thing i'll do
[06:58] <me2win> !bluetooth
[06:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[06:59] <rysiek|pl> sveri: chances are that somebody already had your problem, and solved it
[07:06] <rednaxel> a friend asked me if Kmail can handle multi-gigabyte e-mail archives... he uses Thunderbird and is willing to change
[07:06] <rednaxel> I said it should, but he's unsure
[07:06] <Olegs> thunderbird has problem with indexing
[07:07] <farous> any idea why xman report no manual pages. Was it replaced or was the location of the man pages been changed
[07:08] <rednaxel> Olegs, maybe that's why he's not happy
[07:09] <rysiek|pl> rednaxel: he can try it easily enough, can't he? :)
[07:09] <rednaxel> rysiek|pl, I said that also
[07:09] <Einhard> hmm...my ts2 sound running it under kubuntu only comes out of the left speaker, but everything else works proper
[07:10] <rednaxel> I think he's a bit afraid because his setup has dozens of e-mail adresses and filters
[07:10] <rysiek|pl> rednaxel: well, let him just backup his current Thunderbird setup
[07:10] <rysiek|pl> and play :)
[07:11] <sveri> hm, i put another pci nic in the box (rtl 8139/C too) and the same thing happens, i set her up with ifconfig ... up and added a route to the server, it can ping himself but no other computer
[07:11] <sveri> i've also tried another cable, doesn't help
[07:12] <rysiek|pl> sveri: join #sveri-rysiek
[07:19] <lint> Adept wont run whenever i click on it, and when i try to killall it i get this lovely error: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/587334
[07:22] <lint> oh really?
[07:22] <lint> wow thanks!
[07:22] <lint> ;D
[07:22] <ubuntu_> lint: try sudo
[07:22] <lint> oh jesus christ, i cant believe i didn't do that
[07:23] <lint> Is there a reason why adept keeps crashing in the first place?
[07:23] <lint> this is happening constantly
[07:23] <me2win> try reinstalling it
[07:24] <lint> i'll give that a go after i get this blasted video working
[07:25] <me2win> which video
[07:25] <Crowbar> any good program for making charts?  I need more than KOffice can offer.
[07:25] <lint> m3win: streaming video in firefox
[07:25] <lint> wmv for example
[07:25] <lint> i've installed everything known to man
[07:26] <maenty> Crowbar: Openoffice.org?
[07:26] <robotgeek> lint: mplayer plugin + firefox + w32codecs
[07:26] <lint> already installed
[07:27] <robotgeek> lint: define "not working"
[07:27] <me2win> lint, you have both, mplayer and w32 codecs?
[07:27] <lint> both are installed
[07:27] <lint> if i open a wbsite that has a wmv or any video file
[07:27] <lint> firefox will say i'm missing a plugin
[07:28] <me2win> lint, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[07:28] <robotgeek> lint: if you click on the popup, what plugin does it you are missing
[07:28] <Crowbar> maenty: Tried it.  I'm doing a lot of stats stuff and was hoping for something that could create a lot more suitable graphs.
[07:28] <lint> robotgeek: unknown plugin it says
[07:29] <robotgeek> lint: can you try a different site
[07:29] <lint> robotgeek: sure
[07:30] <lint> me2win: yep installed all of those
[07:30] <lint> and regarding the line
[07:30] <lint> vo=x11,  to vo=xv,
[07:30] <lint> I have vo=xv,sdl,x11
[07:31] <me2win> lint, back up the file and then change it to just xv, see what happens
[07:31] <me2win> see what breaks
[07:32] <me2win> !mplayer
[07:32] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:32] <lint> interesting
[07:32] <lint> i guess it was just that one site
[07:33] <me2win> work now?
[07:34] <lint> well i can play videos off of youtube
[07:34] <lint> but i dont believe those are .wmvs
[07:34] <tpk> hi i've just installed kubuntu!!
[07:34] <Dasnipa> congrats tpk
[07:34] <me2win> rpcongrats
[07:34] <rysiek|pl> gotta go, cu guys
[07:34] <me2win> tpk, congrats*
[07:34] <me2win> lolz
[07:34] <me2win> ryanakca, cya
[07:35] <me2win> son of a...
[07:35] <me2win> lol
[07:35] <lint> lol
[07:35] <lint> Is there a way to play quicktime in firefox on kubuntu?
[07:36] <me2win> lint, mplayer does it
[07:36] <lint> hmm
[07:36] <lint> well i know for sure that isn't working
[07:36] <me2win> !quicktime
[07:36] <ubotu> I heard quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[07:37] <me2win> apt-get libquicktime1
[07:37] <tpk> works all on my laptop. I can't believe it, I'm probably the chosen one.
[07:37] <tpk> hooray
[07:37] <tpk> \o/
[07:37] <me2win> tpk, lol
[07:37] <lint> me2win: interesting
[07:37] <lint> it says that something replaced it
[07:37] <lint> libquicktime0
[07:37] <me2win> lol?
[07:38] <lint> and thats already installed
[07:38] <lint> interesting
[07:38] <me2win> try unintalling libquicktime 0 and installing libquicktime1 prehaps?
[07:39] <lint> even adept says that is the newest version
[07:39] <Dasnipa> me2win, you have a msg ;)
[07:39] <me2win> Dasnipa, do i?
[07:39] <Dasnipa> erm nvm
[07:39] <lint> screw the mirrors, i'll google for the package
[07:39] <Dasnipa> i had not authenticated
[07:39] <Dasnipa> that is why
[07:40] <me2win> Dasnipa, it says i have new memos actually
[07:41] <me2win> oh it says NO no memos heh
[07:41] <lint> and not surprisingly, still doesn't work
[07:41] <me2win> lint, thats pretty odd my friend
[07:42] <lint> thing is, if it works right
[07:42] <lint> i should be able to type about:plugins in firefox
[07:42] <lint> and see all the applicable plugins
[07:42] <lint> only ones in there however are shockwave and futuresplash
[07:42] <me2win> mplayerplug-in
[07:42] <me2win> lol, thats what is driving quicktime for me
[07:43] <lint> mozilla-mplayer is already the newest version.
[07:43] <lint> already installed for me
[07:45] <lint> Yeah it seems my only problem is wmv
[07:48] <_christian> Hallo allerseits! Kennt sich von Euch jemand mit der WLan-Installation aus? Bin schon sehr weit, hnge aber an einer Stelle fest
[07:49] <lint> anyone else got an idea?
[07:49] <Ilokaaaasu> '1de
[07:49] <Ilokaaaasu> !de
[07:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:50] <me2win> lint, not sure
[07:50] <lint> 5 dollar donation to ubuntu if this hell of a problem gets fixed
[07:51] <lint> an hour+ to get videos playing in firefox
[07:51] <lint> *shakes his head*
[07:52] <me2win> heh
[07:52] <me2win> lint, dont worry, im trying to install apache
[07:52] <me2win> and i cant open any new network connections
[07:52] <lint> thanks for trying me2win
[07:52] <me2win> i only have what i already have
[07:52] <me2win> lint, *shrug* sorry i couldnt help more
[07:53] <lint> tis all good, i'll probably have to google answer it and pay someone money
[07:53] <me2win> nah, try the #ubuntu chat
[07:53] <me2win> maybe somebody will know
[07:53] <me2win> or just wait till later on
[07:53] <lint> already did ;/
[07:53] <me2win> you shouldnt have to pay anyone
[07:53] <lint> haha i know i shouldn't, but im getting a headache ;x
[07:55] <nuky> hi, i've been trying to install kubuntu onto a sata drive machine and had sooo much trouble. i asked in here earlier and someone suggested finding the modue and rebuilding the kernel and shifting it over to the sata machine from another one. finally, i found this about my sata controller: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/587416 can someone briefly explain what this means?
[08:00] <me2win> !sata
[08:00] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win
[08:00] <me2win> nuky, not sure
[08:01] <_stian> hi, anyone know about a guide about how i install MSN messenger 7,5 on kubuntu ?
[08:01] <Einhard> hmm...i can't su..."Authentication failed" <br> "Sorry"
[08:02] <ubuntu_> I've been trying out the dapper live-cd. Where do I go to give improvement suggestions? Like the fact that wifi "almost" works but the tools doesn't quite go all the way. Or that my touchpad is insanely fine-grained. 5cm on the touchpad is like 5mm on the screen.
[08:02] <ubuntu_> I am in fact on the dapper cd now...
[08:04] <iquniez> hi, anyone know about a guide about how i install MSN messenger 7,5 on kubuntu ?
[08:04] <me2win> ubuntu, ubuntu https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:04] <ubuntu_> iquniez: I use kopete. Works like a charm for me.
[08:04] <me2win> !msn
[08:04] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win
[08:05] <Ilokaaaasu> iquniez: do you need msn messenger or just some messenger which is has same options
[08:05] <Ilokaaaasu> -is
[08:05] <me2win> ubuntu_, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:05] <iquniez> ubuntu_ i use aMSN and gaim, but I  like MSN messenger bether
[08:06] <me2win> msn doesnt develop its client for linux, you will have to use kopete or gaim or something
[08:07] <iquniez> me2win:  cant i install wine and then MSN messenger +
[08:07] <nuky> where do you download the dapper cd from?
[08:08] <me2win> iquniez, not all programs work under wine, you may want to try it, but im not sure, never tried it
[08:08] <nuky> apparently, that has more sata controller drivers built in..
[08:08] <ubuntu_> me2win: already reported. good to know. :-)
[08:08] <iquniez> me2win: kk, I wil try it :)
[08:08] <me2win> iquniez, let us know if it works
[08:08] <iquniez> me2win: I wil do that..
[08:10] <bogo> has anyone used samba's Winbind to log into a samba PDC, instead of a real windows domain?
[08:10] <me2win> ubuntu_, heh yeah I find most bugs are usually already reported but its good to chek anyway
[08:11] <ubuntu_> time to go back to breezy...
[08:26] <thompa> can someone show me where touchpad accelration setting is?
[08:26] <me2win> !touchpad
[08:26] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win
[08:27] <me2win> thompa, im not sure
[08:27] <thompa> thats ok
[08:27] <thompa> its really slow
[08:27] <thompa> im running dapper
[08:27] <thompa> checking system settings, i know its called syanptic i think
[08:29] <thompa> !synaptic
[08:29] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:30] <thompa> !synaptics
[08:30] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thompa
[08:31] <thompa> objest not found
[08:32] <thompa> site is down cant search it you stupid bot
[08:32] <me2win> are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:32] <thompa> kubuntu
[08:32] <me2win> you are probably looking for adept then
[08:32] <me2win> not synaptix
[08:33] <thompa> im looking for synaptics touch pad control
[08:33] <thompa> i may have to edit xorg.conf
[08:34] <thompa> youd think there would be a gui or something
[08:34] <me2win> ooo
[08:34] <me2win> not sure
[08:36] <thompa> theres no accelration line in xorg.conf, might as well be using an old version of slackware
[08:37] <ufo> thompa in dapper its ksynaptics
[09:07] <heady_> hi there, are there any extensions for konquror like for firefox ???
[09:07] <JohnFlux> no
[09:08] <heady_> damn, then konqueror sux
[09:08] <robotgeek> heady_: it has lot of features inbuilt
[09:09] <heady_> robotgeek: maybe, but im sure that no so many as firefox with all extensions
[09:10] <robotgeek> heady_: sure, but you don't install all extensions from mozdev, right :P
[09:10] <heady_> robotgeek: not, only about 20
[09:10] <heady_> robotgeek: not, about 20 only
[09:10] <robotgeek> heady_: hmm, you are a "power user' then
[09:12] <heinkel_111> hmmm, shouldn't "sudo apt update" give a meaningful response in kubuntu?
[09:12] <heady_> robotgeek: wow, your the first who told me someting like this
[09:12] <heinkel_111> i get "sudo: apt: command not found"
[09:12] <arrinmurr> sudo apt-get update
[09:12] <robotgeek> heady_: i have only about 6-7 installed,
[09:13] <heady_> robotgeek: i just want to have my web browser costumized
[09:13] <robotgeek> heady_: konq has a lot of features too, you might have to look up www.kde-apps.org
[09:13] <heinkel_111> ah goody actually mislead by guide on how to make amaroK do mp3 then, thx!
[09:13] <arrinmurr> heinkel_111: what guide?
[09:14] <heinkel_111> one i googled..lets see:http://www.ubuntux.org/mp3-support-for-amarok
[09:14] <heinkel_111> "2. Type "sudo apt update" in the shell (or use the Update Button in Synaptic)"
[09:15] <arrinmurr> heinkel_111: ah, ok. i just thought that if it was in the wiki, it should be fixed
[09:15] <robotgeek> yeah, we can't really help you with external guides and stuff
[09:15] <heady_> btw, i would like to install FF 1.5, is here anybody who would like to help me
[09:15] <heinkel_111> ok, so better look in wiki before google then ;)
[09:15] <heinkel_111> point taken
[09:16] <heinkel_111> making amarok play mp3 is the second thing i try to do
[09:16] <heinkel_111> i _must_ have some music while hacking away at this system :P
[09:16] <robotgeek> !firefox
[09:16] <_tijn> xmms ? :D
[09:17] <robotgeek> heady_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:17] <heady_> thanks man
[09:18] <Merlin94> Bonsoir Tout le monde :)
[09:18] <ninHer> hi all
[09:19] <robotgeek> !fr
[09:19] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:19] <heinkel_111> Bonsoir Merlin :)
[09:19] <Merlin94> So sorry...
[09:20] <robotgeek> Merlin94: no problem, only that we won't follow what you say :)
[09:23] <Merlin94> me too ;)
[09:23] <robotgeek> root___: don't browse as root
[09:24] <robotgeek> heinkel_111: do you still need help with amarok mp3?
[09:25] <robotgeek> heinkel_111: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-a57167a3ce442dc52d9b05e46a14503330d4e970
[09:26] <arrinmurr> (amarok-xine is the way to go ;)
[09:26] <robotgeek> +1
[09:27] <Borelia> !bz2
[09:27] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Borelia
[09:30] <inteliwasp> could someone wack me in the head with the command to restart the sound?
[09:31] <bam_> /sbin/restart...
[09:31] <nuky> i know this sounds illy.. but i can't get support for my sata controller with breezy, how safe do you think it is to use dapper untill it's officially released?
[09:32] <robotgeek> nuky: can you live with a mostly working, but annoyant system?
[09:32] <inteliwasp> depends on what is anoying...
[09:33] <ninHer> which file do i need to add 192.168.1.1 to, to avoid dhclient every time i boot ?
[09:33] <nuky> yeah.. if the basics work it's fine.. i'm not fussed about multimedia support, etc..
[09:33] <robotgeek> ninHer, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:33] <inteliwasp> i think the route command.
[09:33] <ninHer> thakns robotgeek
[09:33] <inteliwasp> well robo beat me :(
[09:34] <heinkel_111> yay! MP3 plays! thanks for help :)
[09:34] <robotgeek> heinkel_111: cool. glad to help!
[09:35] <kallidor> Hello..
[09:36] <noxx> hi
[09:36] <kallidor> I just got dapper up and running and am trying to figure out what this alt+spacebar thing is
[09:36] <noxx> jmd lust auf ne runde bzflag??
[09:36] <kallidor> katapult
[09:37] <noxx> katapult??
[09:37] <arrinmurr> kallidor: it's for launching programs by starting to type their name, or something
[09:37] <noxx> was hat das damit zutun??
[09:37] <noxx> foxx auch drinn???
[09:38] <visik7> Xorg is using 256mb of ram in RSS is it normal ?
[09:38] <kallidor> I get that, but the only item that shows up is k3b and run program
[09:38] <noxx> isn t it a german server??
[09:38] <noxx> chanel
[09:38] <noxx> i ment channel
[09:38] <arrinmurr> !de
[09:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:38] <noxx> also
[09:38] <kallidor> however, the only one that works is the k3b
[09:38] <noxx> englisch??
[09:38] <kallidor> noxx: huh?
[09:38] <noxx> wasn??
[09:39] <noxx> huh?
[09:39] <kallidor> Ich spreche Egnlish? un du?
[09:39] <kallidor> und du?
[09:39] <kallidor> I can't type today.
[09:39] <noxx> meinte nur das dies meinermeinung nach n deutscher channel ist...
[09:41] <visik7>  8553 root      16   0 1092m 254m 2304 R  8.2 52.1   1:28.60 Xorg
[09:41] <kallidor> noxx: try #kubuntu-de fur deutsch
[09:41] <arrinmurr> kallidor: hmm... it works fine here, but running on breezy. i never use it though ;)
[09:41] <heinkel_111> is there a #kubuntu-no too?
[09:42] <h1dd3nh4xx0r> Hey guys. Can you give me a console command to find a file? I'm looking for the update file for F-Prot ><
[09:42] <simian> does anybody else here find kaudiocreator a bit hit and miss
[09:42] <simian> some times it encodes and sometimes it just hangs
[09:42] <arrinmurr> h1dd3nh4xx0r: locate -i something
[09:44] <kallidor> arrinmurr: Thanks.. guess that is what I get for running bleeding edge.
[09:44] <kallidor> however, the support for the laptop was awsome
[09:45] <kallidor> maybe that should be is..
[09:45] <inteliwasp> anyone here good with wireless?
[09:47] <kallidor> inteliwasp: What are you trying to figure out.
[09:50] <inteliwasp> i have a proxim orinoco 8420-WD gold wireless card that i want to use
[09:51] <inteliwasp> for some reason it wont show up in lspci
[09:52] <kallidor> You should have the orinoco driver installed, but you might want to check that you actually do have it.
[09:55] <inteliwasp> kallidor: I'm not sure i have them, adept does not show anything, yes universe/multivers is set up
[09:57] <kallidor> then i would look for those
[09:58] <inteliwasp> uhh,  <is a bit of a linux newb
[09:58] <inteliwasp> i found a web page...
[09:58] <inteliwasp> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html
[09:58] <inteliwasp> not shure what to get tho
[10:04] <kallidor> sorry .. have to run .. production work issue.
[10:22] <nsky> how do i install deb packages from console?
[10:26] <Ilokaaaasu> nsky try sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[10:29] <nsky> tnx
[10:34] <wincide> hi all, i am looking for a vhdl compiler for xwindows , do someone know one ?
[10:36] <ryanakca> is the mutt in the repositories built with gpgme support?
[10:40] <ToJukk> I'm getting an error saying /dev/mem does not exist when trying to install kubuntu (tried both breezer/dapper cd/dvd). the LiveCD works perfect though. Any suggestions on what to do?
[10:40] <epzt> hi
[10:40] <epzt> lost printer, cups seemsto be out
[10:43] <ryanakca> how do you find out konsole's default characterset
[10:43] <epzt> tried to install printconf package but it's stopped
[10:45] <epzt> is there anybody here ,
[10:46] <ryanakca> epzt: patience.... someone will see you question and will answer it... might take 10-15 minutes, but it will be answered
[10:46] <epzt> sure ;)
[10:48] <redguy> epzt: in that time you might give details of your problem. "lost printer, cups seemsto be out" doesn't say nothing
[10:48] <redguy> !ask
[10:49] <redguy> !tell epzt about ask
[10:50] <epzt> ok, so I tried to print a web page under firefox but it freeze the application (after slecting "print" command)
[10:50] <heinkel_111> does anybody know if it possible to configure a mailclient (thunderbird, for example) to work from both windows and linux partitions on a dual boot pc? ie..by storing the mail folder on a vfat partition visible to both?
[10:51] <epzt> then i tried to have access to localhost:631, but didn't work
[10:51] <trappist> epzt: define "didn't work"
[10:52] <epzt> yes, it's coming : no answer from the server
[10:52] <trappist> epzt: do you have cupsys installed?  if so, have you done /etc/init.d/cupsys start ?
[10:52] <ryanakca> how do you find out konsole's default characterset?
[10:52] <epzt> yes
[10:53] <trappist> epzt: does it show up if you say netstat -ntlp | grep 631
[10:53] <epzt> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:631           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     8586/cupsd
[10:54] <trappist> that looks right.  have you checked /var/log/cups/error_log ?
[10:55] <epzt> no, I'm looking at it now...
[10:56] <epzt> LoadAllClasses: Unable to open /etc/cups/classes.conf - Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why mounting a DVD requires a -o loop option like an iso image?
[10:56] <trappist> epzt: do you have that file?
[10:56] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: it shouldn't
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it does..
[10:56] <heinkel_111> does anybody know if it possible to configure a mailclient (thunderbird, for example) to work from both windows and linux partitions on a dual boot pc? ie..by storing the mail folder on a vfat partition visible to both?
[10:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> look here
[10:57] <epzt> no classes.conf is not there but why it is not ?
[10:57] <epzt> it use to be because the printer was working yesterday
[10:57] <Snake__> heinkel_111: You could install the program onto a fat32 parition and run it under wine
[10:57] <Snake__> but thats about the best you can do
[10:58] <trappist> epzt: try 'sudo touch /etc/cups/classes.conf' and restart cups.  I dunno why it wouldn't be there.
[10:59] <Snake__> trappist: what exactly does touch do?
[10:59] <epzt> what does means that last command, please :)
[10:59] <morrow> hmmm dapper and wine does not work currently :/
[10:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> trappist: how the -o loop change the access?
[10:59] <Snake__> I read the man, but I never understood it
[10:59] <trappist> Snake__: creates an empty file if it doesn't exist, or updates the timestamp if it does exist.
[11:00] <Snake__> trappist: ahhh thanks :)
[11:00] <epzt> it requires a full relaod, /etc/init.d/cupsys restart should it be enough ?
[11:01] <trappist> epzt: yes
[11:01] <epzt> thanks
[11:01] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: -o loop creates a loop device for mounting images.  what happens if you try to mount without -o loop, and how are you doing it.
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the command with which i mounted the DVD now is this one
[11:02] <epzt> I did it but still not work :|
[11:02] <trappist> epzt: check the logs again :)
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[11:03] <epzt> I did i a require a full reload again
[11:03] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: is this a data dvd or a video dvd?
[11:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> data
[11:03] <trappist> and, what happens if you try to mount without -o loop
[11:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh can't really say now.. i am transferring data
[11:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but it doesn't work
[11:04] <trappist> can't do much with "doesn't work".
[11:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[11:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> gimme a sec
[11:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> now it worked..
[11:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't understand......
[11:05] <trappist> *shrug*
[11:05] <Kyral> Anyone know if Kopete can log IMs? (Like Gaim?)
[11:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> trappist: ok, let's do what i want to do
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> trappist: this is my fstab entry
[11:06] <trappist> Kyral: kopete would really suck if it couldn't log, and I heard kopete didn't suck
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom    iso9660 umask=000,ro,user,noauto        0 0 #udf
[11:06] <Kyral> trappist: then tell me where the option is :P
[11:06] <epzt> I guess I have to restart the computer then :(
[11:06] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: might try auto instead of iso9660 so it can use the right fs if it's udf, for example
[11:06] <trappist> Kyral: I've never used kopete
[11:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried
[11:07] <trappist> epzt: for what?
[11:07] <epzt> to have a full reload
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but when i use auto it keep saying not able to detect
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> fs
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom    iso9660 umask=000,ro,user,noauto        0 0 #udf
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> now it tells me
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> andrea@taglia:/media$ mount /media/cdrom
[11:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[11:08] <trappist> I hate that error message.
[11:08] <trappist> what if you change iso9660 to auto
[11:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :) me too
[11:08] <Kyral> yah the "History" thing does it
[11:08] <Kyral> but where does it put the logfiles...
[11:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> andrea@taglia:/media$ mount /media/cdrom
[11:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[11:09] <trappist> Kyral: probably somewhere in ~/.kopete or ~/.kde/apps/kopete
[11:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this is auto, with sudo mount -a called before
[11:09] <Kyral> trappist: I got it
[11:09] <epzt> whatdoes mean : StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Ne peut attribuer l'adresse demande
[11:09] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: try changing your umask to 555
[11:10] <Kyral> .kde/share/apps/kopete/logs
[11:10] <trappist> epzt: cups didn't die and is still listening on 631
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> look
[11:10] <trappist> Kyral: good deal
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this one give me the error wrong fs type
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo mount -t udf /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> while this one mount correctly
[11:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[11:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> even though it is a DVD
[11:11] <trappist> well not all dvds are udf
[11:11] <epzt> but can't see it with ps command
[11:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't even know what's udf :)
[11:11] <trappist> epzt: sudo fuser -v -n tcp 631
[11:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but anyway with auto it SHOULD work
[11:11] <trappist> yes, it should
[11:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why not?
[11:12] <epzt> nothing
[11:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> maybe i can create 2 different locations
[11:12] <trappist> maybe it's your umask - it's a read-only medium, so maybe it doesn't like your 777 permissions
[11:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and put them in the fstab
[11:12] <trappist> epzt: maybe it's dead now, try a sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[11:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> [14:12]  [DCOP]  Error: Nothing is playing in amaroK
[11:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wtf is this?
[11:13] <trappist> kde crap
[11:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in konversation?
[11:14] <eob84> is there a fix for the brokeun kdebase-dev package?
[11:14] <trappist> I dunno, kde apps try to talk to each other over dcop and I guess konversation got some stray noice from amarok
[11:14] <trappist> *noise
[11:15] <eob84> anyone able to install kdebase-dev?
[11:15] <epzt> my printer is an HP on and I've got a process : /usr/lib/cups/backend/hp
[11:16] <trappist> epzt: do you have hplip installed?
[11:16] <epzt> I'm ckecking....
[11:17] <trappist> do you have a /etc/init.d/hplip
[11:17] <epzt> I just install it
[11:18] <trappist> oh, I was wondering if that running process was from hplip.  I say kill it and try again to restart cups.
[11:18] <epzt> ok
[11:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> grr i am getting mad
[11:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[11:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> now it mount correctly with
[11:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the one above
[11:19] <epzt> still noy working...
[11:19] <epzt> not
[11:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but using mount /media/cdrom with this fstab still give me errors
[11:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> "/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom            iso9660 umask=555,ro,user,noauto        0 0 #udf
[11:20] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: does it still work with sudo mount -t iso9660 -o umask=000 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[11:20] <trappist> there, 555
[11:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there something wrong in my fstab?
[11:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why can't i use mount /media/cdrom?
[11:21] <epzt> ok, going to restart my box now....
[11:21] <epzt> by
[11:21] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: I'm suggesting that your umask might be bad
[11:21] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am using 555 as you suggested
[11:22] <trappist> try omitting the umask from your fstab
[11:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[11:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> that was as it was before
[11:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[11:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> grrrrrrrrr.... now it works :)
[11:24] <trappist> also try stripping the #udf from the end - I dunno whether that's valid
[11:24] <trappist> oh hehe :)
[11:24] <trappist> try umask=444
[11:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am really confused :)
[11:24] <trappist> I mean
[11:24] <trappist> make it 222
[11:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !?
[11:24] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[11:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> aha :)
[11:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> |:)
[11:25] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !:)
[11:25] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Tallia1Kubuntu
[11:25] <Snake__> !mittens
[11:25] <ubotu> Snake__: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:25] <Snake__> :(
[11:25] <Snake__> :(
[11:25] <Snake__> !mittens
[11:25] <trappist> please don't play with the bot kthx.
[11:25] <Snake__> Lol
[11:25] <Snake__> But hes so much fun
[11:26] <trappist> Snake__: feel free in pmsg.  /msg ubotu hello.
[11:26] <Snake__> trappist: I ususally do ;)
[11:26] <Snake__> I was tryin to get him to say the mittins thing
[11:26] <epzt> back :)
[11:27] <epzt> but still not printer :(
[11:28] <epzt> it's going to make me mad
[11:30] <ryanakca> when your mail is saved to ~/Mail , What do you set as mailbox type in .muttrc? Maildir? or is ~/mbox and ~/Mail for two different things?
[11:30] <epzt> should I uninstall cups and reinstall it ?
[11:31] <ateves> hi, my KDE desktop shows no mounted or unmounted devices on the desktop, but i enabled this option in the desktop behaviour menu
[11:33] <epzt> what is the kubuntu-desktop ackage exactly ?
[11:35] <simian> i want to chown a directory and all the directories and files withing it, can anyone save me hours of googleing?
[11:36] <trappist> simian: chown -R
[11:36] <simian> trappist: than you, yo are a star
[11:36] <trappist> epzt: it's a metapackage that depends on all the packages you need for a nice kde desktop, so you can just install that package and it'll pull all the rest with it.
[11:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> epzt: a fake package with dependancies toward the most common kubuntu packages
[11:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[11:37] <epzt> so can't uninstall it :)
[11:37] <trappist> epzt: if you uninstall it, you lose only that package, which means basically nothing.
[11:38] <trappist> because it depends on all those other packages, not the other way around.  they don't need it.
[11:38] <simian> trappist: does -R apply to chmod aswell?
[11:38] <epzt> beacuse if I want to uninstall cupsys  , kubuntu-desktop package should be unistall
[11:38] <trappist> simian: yes
[11:38] <trappist> epzt: that's no problem.
[11:38] <epzt> ok
[11:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> simian: whatchout sometimes it is -r like in cp
[11:39] <simian> trappist: thanks again
[11:39] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: -R is preferred for most operations with cp
[11:39] <trappist> so you don't end up copying device files, sockets, etc.
[11:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> who
[11:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> aha
[11:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :) always learning
[11:40] <trappist> but I usually use -a
[11:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> -a ?
[11:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> -a is for hidden
[11:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anyway..
[11:41] <trappist> that's for ls
[11:41] <trappist> for cp it's, well, check the man page :)
[11:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to obtain a snapshot of the desktop with a single command?
[11:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> like desksnap output.jpeg
[11:41] <trappist> import -window root filename.png
[11:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[11:41] <trappist> or .jpg if you prefer
[11:41] <trappist> if you don't have import, apt-get install imagemagick
[11:43] <epzt> I think will never have my printer working at all :(
[11:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> trappist: since you seem so well prepared..
[11:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to shot an avi movie too?
[11:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it should be simple..
[11:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> of a mjpeg.. using multiple istances of: import -window root snapshot.png
[11:45] <trappist> closest thing I know of is vnc2swf
[11:45] <epzt> don't think my kubuntu install is stable....
[11:46] <thompa> I did and upgrade of packages and lost my wireless, devices could not be enabled
[11:46] <trappist> epzt: printing sucks in kubuntu, I know that for sure.
[11:46] <thompa> is there someway to upgrade without losing networking?
[11:47] <thompa> or could it be the kernel upgrade that came through?
[11:47] <trappist> thompa: what happened to you shouldn't happen
[11:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> trappist: yes but that require to have vnc server running...
[11:47] <epzt> ok but why it was working afer the install and after some days not ???
[11:47] <Tallia1Kubuntu> way to complicated for such a simple thing
[11:47] <trappist> and a kernel upgrade won't take effect until you reboot
[11:47] <trappist> Tallia1Kubuntu: yeah it's not an ideal solution but it's the only thing I know of
[11:47] <thompa> im running dapper maybe thats it
[11:48] <trappist> dapper is unstable by definition.
[11:48] <thompa> is kde 3.5 part of kubuntu yet?
[11:48] <thompa> or is it still unstable?
[11:49] <epzt> I think will go back to suse...
[11:49] <trappist> there are 3.5.1 packages for breezy
[11:49] <thompa> ok thanks,
[11:49] <trappist> but they're backports, not part of the official distro
[11:49] <thompa> righy
[11:50] <thompa> dapper is working fine until i update, it does not matter which kernel i choose at reboot, my devices cannot be enabled
[11:51] <epzt> my cpusd process stop after a while
[11:51] <epzt> and disappear
[11:51] <trappist> epzt: I used to have similar trouble.  it took a while to track down, but all the secrets are in your /var/log/cups/error_log
[11:52] <epzt> [06/Mar/2006:23:51:47 +0100]  Listening to 7f000001:631
[11:52] <epzt> I [06/Mar/2006:23:51:47 +0100]  Loaded configuration file "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf"
[11:52] <epzt> I [06/Mar/2006:23:51:47 +0100]  Configured for up to 100 clients.
[11:52] <epzt> I [06/Mar/2006:23:51:47 +0100]  Allowing up to 100 client connections per host.
[11:52] <epzt> I [06/Mar/2006:23:51:47 +0100]  Full reload is required.
[11:52] <epzt> that's what I found at the end
[11:53] <_mihai> how do i see a list of users as a root ?
[11:53] <_mihai> users created on my comp
[11:53] <_mihai> machine...
[11:53] <simian> Goog night all :)
[11:53] <thompa> im going back to stable kubuntu
[11:53] <thompa> thanks
[11:55] <_mihai> i need a command to view all the user accounts on my machine
[11:56] <theine> Hi, can somebody tell me how to change the KDM cursor theme?
[11:56] <rene> good question ^^
[11:59] <_mihai> i need a command to view all the user accounts on my machine
[11:59] <trappist> _mihai: cat /etc/passwd | cut -d: -f1
[11:59] <_mihai> that is not a list of users
[12:00] <_mihai> it's a list of everything
[12:00] <trappist> it's a list of users, system users included
[12:01] <theine> _mihai: a bit ugly, but it works...: cat /etc/passwd | grep :[0-9] [0-9] [0-9] [0-9] : | cut -d: -f1
[12:01] <epzt> if I delete /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file is cupsys allowed to create a new one when restarted
[12:02] <_mihai> works
[12:02] <theine> _mihai: this assumes that ordinary users are assigned a 4-digit UID, which at least on my system seems to be the case
[12:02] <trappist> cat /etc/passwd | while read line; do if [ `echo $line | cut -d: -f3` -ge 1000 ] ;then echo $line | cut -d: -f1;fi;done