| hub | desrt: the warnings for the code were not requirements | 12:04 |
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| hub | desrt: that's why they where off-band | 12:05 |
| desrt | hub; nod. i rereleased anyway to fix those other issues you also mentioned out of band | 12:05 |
| desrt | hub; i uploaded the 0.6.1 to revu with a new manpage, etc... | 12:07 |
| LaserJock | MrRio: you can just remove the .upload file or use dput -f to upload the same version if you want | 12:08 |
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| Xoritor | anyone setup pbuilder on amd64? | 12:09 |
| hub | we are in feature freeze, aren't we? | 12:15 |
| LaserJock | yep | 12:15 |
| hub | desrt: you got my vote :-) | 12:15 |
| hub | desrt: but it won't be in dapper... | 12:15 |
| desrt | hub; !! | 12:16 |
| hub | desrt: you needs to more advocates :-) | 12:16 |
| Xoritor | anyone that can help me troubleshoot setting up pbuilder on amd64? | 12:16 |
| hub | s/to/two/ | 12:16 |
| desrt | hub; tseng already agreed :) | 12:16 |
| Xoritor | ? | 12:16 |
| hub | desrt: tell him to advocate it :-) | 12:16 |
| Xoritor | advocates of what? | 12:16 |
| tseng | he only needs one more | 12:16 |
| hub | tseng: yeah. | 12:17 |
| hub | tseng: but since it will have to wait, maybe you can put your vote on REVU :-) | 12:17 |
| tseng | what has to wait | 12:17 |
| Xoritor | ? | 12:17 |
| hub | tseng: feature freeze, no? | 12:18 |
| tseng | hub: feature freeze has never applied to new universe packages in the past | 12:18 |
| LaserJock | hub: he could ask for an exception I suppose | 12:18 |
| LaserJock | tseng: it is | 12:18 |
| hub | tseng: I think it is | 12:18 |
| tseng | LaserJock: point me to a mail that says so please | 12:18 |
| hub | tseng: that was discussed at UBZ | 12:19 |
| hub | tseng: hold on | 12:19 |
| tseng | LaserJock: i have been doing this for 3 releases now | 12:19 |
| Xoritor | anyone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/585958 | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | tseng: I don't know if it was in an email but it was at a MOTU meeting, UVF and FF apply to us | 12:19 |
| hub | tseng: it has been discussed at UBZ afaik | 12:19 |
| Xoritor | or tell where to get more help? | 12:19 |
| tseng | LaserJock: what does UVF and FF have to do with NEW | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | FF is for NEW | 12:19 |
| tseng | sigh | 12:20 |
| hub | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze say no new package | 12:20 |
| hub | but does not say explicitly universe or not | 12:20 |
| Xoritor | whats the new packages? | 12:20 |
| LaserJock | Xoritor: packages that haven't been in Ubuntu before | 12:20 |
| tseng | that page is so vague as to be useless | 12:20 |
| Xoritor | ah | 12:21 |
| tseng | and its written by corey burger, who, no offense, intended, is not any kind of package maintainer afaik | 12:21 |
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| LaserJock | yes, but I believe we covered this quite a while ago in a MOTU meeting that UVF and FF apply to Universe as they do to main | 12:21 |
| hub | tseng: well, I just gave my vote. | 12:21 |
| tseng | sigh | 12:22 |
| tseng | UVF and FF can apply all they want | 12:22 |
| tseng | "The point at which we cease creating and modifying internal features and packages." | 12:22 |
| tseng | traditionally, we have discouraged motus from working on new packages | 12:22 |
| tseng | we happily accepted new packages that came in anyway | 12:22 |
| tseng | like from desrt, who isnt interested in bugfixing $randomuniversepackage anyway | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | and no new packages after FF except by exception. You might talk to dholbach about it though | 12:23 |
| desrt | tseng; lies! muine :) | 12:23 |
| tseng | nothing on this page says anything about new packages | 12:23 |
| tseng | in certain terms | 12:23 |
| tseng | to contradict our precedent | 12:24 |
| slomo_ | tseng: it changed this time... no NEW packages after FF | 12:24 |
| tseng | slomo_: id love to see it in clear writing | 12:24 |
| tseng | after I do, I'd love to get an exception anyway | 12:24 |
| desrt | fwiw, muine-shell used to be in universe | 12:24 |
| desrt | it was removed because it failed to compile against the new dbus | 12:25 |
| desrt | i merely fixed that | 12:25 |
| slomo_ | tseng: i know no clear writing anywhere... but it was decided at a meeting, maybe grep the logs ;) | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | tseng: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseProcess | 12:25 |
| ajmitch | slomo_: I was at the table when this was discussed | 12:25 |
| tseng | ajmitch: thanks. | 12:25 |
| tseng | ajmitch: await my appeal | 12:26 |
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| desrt | tseng; if you're planning on applying for exception you might want to make it on those grounds | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | tseng: I think exceptions are warranted | 12:26 |
| tseng | desrt: indeed. | 12:26 |
| hub | desrt: it was? | 12:26 |
| desrt | hub; it was. | 12:26 |
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| hub | desrt: so why didn't you reuse the existing package? | 12:27 |
| desrt | i used to have it installed. i assume it was coming from universe | 12:27 |
| desrt | hub; i couldn't find it | 12:27 |
| hub | ah ok | 12:27 |
| minghua | siretart: ping | 12:45 |
| Xoritor | anyone seen this error? | 12:51 |
| Xoritor | W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build/29171/. dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu8_amd64.deb | 12:51 |
| Xoritor | pbuilder: debootstrap failed | 12:51 |
| Xoritor | could anyone tell me a diff mirror to use for pbuilder? | 12:52 |
| Xoritor | MIRRORSITE=http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 12:52 |
| Xoritor | thats what im using now | 12:52 |
| LaserJock | Xoritor: are you making a dapper pbuilder? | 12:59 |
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| Xoritor | LaserJock, yes | 12:59 |
| Xoritor | LaserJock, trying to... it works for i386 | 01:00 |
| Xoritor | LaserJock, just dies with that on amd64 | 01:00 |
| LaserJock | Xoritor: you might try building it for breezy first and then upgrading it. | 01:04 |
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| Xoritor | pbuilder create --distribution breezy? | 01:05 |
| Xoritor | like that or edit the pbuilderrc | 01:05 |
| Xoritor | that worked to get it to breezy | 01:06 |
| Xoritor | lets see if it works over all | 01:06 |
| Xoritor | ;-) | 01:06 |
| Xoritor | thx | 01:06 |
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| Xoritor | LaserJock, that worked! | 01:29 |
| Xoritor | well... have not tried the upgrade yet | 01:29 |
| LaserJock | k | 01:30 |
| Xoritor | oh hmm | 01:30 |
| Xoritor | it didnt | 01:30 |
| Xoritor | i thought it did | 01:30 |
| Xoritor | I: Base system installed successfully. | 01:30 |
| Xoritor | but then it does not work | 01:31 |
| Xoritor | E: failed to find /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz, have you done <pbuilder create> to create your base tarball yet? | 01:31 |
| Xoritor | suck | 01:31 |
| Xoritor | odd that it said sucessful | 01:32 |
| Xoritor | then was not | 01:32 |
| LaserJock | ok, what did you try to do? | 01:32 |
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| Xoritor | E: Type 'http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic' is not known on line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list | 01:33 |
| Xoritor | that was the error that killed it | 01:33 |
| Xoritor | -> installing dummy policy-rc.d | 01:33 |
| Xoritor | E: Type 'http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic' is not known on line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list | 01:33 |
| Xoritor | i tried pbuilder create --distribution breezy | 01:33 |
| Xoritor | it said success | 01:33 |
| Xoritor | but i was not reading further... :-( | 01:33 |
| Xoritor | my fault | 01:33 |
| Xoritor | trying it again | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | ok are you using the Howto on the wiki? | 01:34 |
| Xoritor | yea | 01:34 |
| Xoritor | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 01:34 |
| LaserJock | did you adjust your /etc/pbuilder/apt.config ? | 01:35 |
| Xoritor | yea | 01:35 |
| LaserJock | it shouldn't be looking for source-o-matic | 01:35 |
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| ajmitch | hey crimsun | 01:36 |
| crimsun | hey ajmitch | 01:36 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: I finally have sound on the laptop, after getting the CVS drivers to build | 01:36 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: rock! | 01:36 |
| Xoritor | doh... i mast have not saved my changes | 01:36 |
| Xoritor | :-( | 01:36 |
| Xoritor | sorry | 01:36 |
| Xoritor | thx for being a good sounding board ;-) | 01:37 |
| LaserJock | np | 01:38 |
| Xoritor | grr | 01:45 |
| Xoritor | E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. | 01:45 |
| Xoritor | trying again | 01:46 |
| Xoritor | :-/ | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | crimsun: I guess it might be worth getting patches in, or hopefully alsa 1.0.11 will be out before kernel freeze | 01:46 |
| crimsun | ajmitch: hmm, integrating alsa bk will be work due to the struct changes, but the hda changes can be done | 01:50 |
| Xoritor | and again... | 01:54 |
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| Xoritor | so is breezy borked with pbuilder for amd64 or what? | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | it should work | 02:03 |
| Xoritor | err... or am i just not doing something right | 02:03 |
| Xoritor | it died 3 times so far... im running with --debug now | 02:04 |
| Xoritor | maybe its the "mirror" im hitting | 02:04 |
| Xoritor | W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. | 02:04 |
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| Xoritor | thats after a few diff things | 02:05 |
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| Xoritor | hahahahahaha\ | 02:21 |
| Xoritor | LaserJock, want to hear the stupid issue that caused all the problems? | 02:21 |
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| Xoritor | LaserJock, i had /var mounted with nodev (duh) | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | ah | 02:23 |
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| Xoritor | my normal mode of thinking is... /var does not need devices, so nodev is ok | 02:23 |
| Xoritor | and normally it does not | 02:23 |
| Xoritor | and it built the 64bit dapper just fine after fixing that | 02:24 |
| LaserJock | great | 02:25 |
| Xoritor | question though... can i have my 64bit machine compile the 32bit stuff using pbuilder also? | 02:26 |
| Xoritor | that should work fine right? | 02:26 |
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| Xoritor | --binary-arch i386 or something should what changes that right? | 02:27 |
| Xoritor | would i need 2 diff base.tgz setups... or can you have 2 diff ones? | 02:28 |
| Xoritor | nm... found the answer | 02:29 |
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| Xoritor | yay | 03:08 |
| Xoritor | yay | 03:08 |
| Xoritor | hip | 03:08 |
| Xoritor | hip | 03:08 |
| Xoritor | horray | 03:08 |
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| Xoritor | interesting | 03:50 |
| Xoritor | i thought pbuilder was supposed to install all of the things you would need to build stuff | 03:50 |
| Xoritor | ie... byacc | 03:51 |
| Xoritor | etc... | 03:51 |
| ajmitch | it does, if a package specifies the packages needed in its build-depends | 03:51 |
| Xoritor | aaah | 03:52 |
| Xoritor | thank you | 03:52 |
| bmonty | hey ajmitch | 03:52 |
| Xoritor | odd that i didnt have to specify byacc for 32bit | 03:53 |
| Xoritor | is that one of the diffs between 64 and 32 bit? | 03:53 |
| Xoritor | or maybe what im trying to compile needs byacc for amd64 | 03:54 |
| Xoritor | but not for i386 | 03:54 |
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| ajmitch | or the source is wonky | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | & needs fixed up :) | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | I'd say it's likely that it does need it to build | 03:55 |
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| Xoritor | heh | 03:56 |
| Xoritor | or the 32bit includes byacc by default, but the 64bit does not | 03:56 |
| Xoritor | :-/ | 03:56 |
| Xoritor | and adding that fixed it just fine | 03:56 |
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| ajmitch | hi LaserJock | 04:40 |
| Kyral | yo LJ | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: hi | 04:42 |
| Kyral | sup? | 04:42 |
| LaserJock | working on a presentation for Tuesday | 04:43 |
| LaserJock | is LP down? | 04:43 |
| bmonty | LaserJock: yes | 04:43 |
| bmonty | they are swapping out the db server | 04:44 |
| bmonty | is there an openoffice.org package that is all of the help files? | 04:44 |
| bmonty | instead of just language specific ones | 04:44 |
| LaserJock | can we still upload if LP is down? | 04:46 |
| crimsun | yes | 04:46 |
| crimsun | they'll just be queued, more than likely (like my vlc upload) | 04:46 |
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| bmonty | good night MOTUs | 05:13 |
| LaserJock | what would be a reasonable amount of time to wait for a Debian maintainer to fix a bug before we do it ourselves? | 05:16 |
| Lathiat | week or two? | 05:17 |
| Lathiat | of course if we're close to relase might be easier just to fix.. | 05:17 |
| Lathiat | send patch | 05:17 |
| Lathiat | i mean sending patches is always a good thing to do? | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | Lathiat: hmm, thanks | 05:18 |
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| ajmitch | yay, the sort of away message we really want to know about | 05:33 |
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| LaserJock | hi minghua | 05:57 |
| minghua | evening LaserJock | 05:58 |
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| minghua | Arrgh, launchpad is down | 06:24 |
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| LaserJock | minghua: yeah, until ~0600 UTC I think, moving the db I believe | 06:36 |
| minghua | LaserJock: bad timing for me, I was expecting to find sponsors for two of my uploads this evening | 06:37 |
| minghua | but wait, it's 05:37 UTC now | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | minghua: well, uploads are still possible but they will just be queued I think | 06:38 |
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| minghua | yay, launchpad is back | 07:17 |
| highvoltage | yay | 07:20 |
| robitaille | sort of.... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs doesn't work | 07:20 |
| minghua | hello MOTUs there, does any MOTU have time to sponsor two uploads from me? | 07:22 |
| minghua | on is for apt-proxy, bug #29267, UVF exception already granted | 07:23 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29267 in apt-proxy "apt-proxy crashes after upgrading" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29267 | 07:23 |
| ajmitch | wow, new & improved layout, finally | 07:23 |
| minghua | one is for scim-hangul, bug #33763, adding automatic start (im-switch) support | 07:23 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 33763 in scim-hangul "scim-hangul: Add im-switch support" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33763 | 07:24 |
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| minghua | bad day to ask for sponsors, I suppose | 07:38 |
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| Xnix | howdy, anyone around? | 07:46 |
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| dooglus | hi | 07:57 |
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| sivang | hi motus | 09:07 |
| sivang | has anyone taken a look at eroastr? it fails even to create the iso right. I think it needs some quick love | 09:07 |
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| tepsipakki | sivang: aren't there better alternatives now? gnomebaker for one.. | 09:41 |
| tepsipakki | for me, eroaster has always been broken.. | 09:47 |
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| dholbach | good morning! | 10:04 |
| Hobbsee | evening dholbach! | 10:04 |
| === Hobbsee ponders - to file a bug, or to file a bug AND fix it? | ||
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| sivang | tepsipakki: I was just trying to use it as reference for wrapping cdrecord in python, but the code is so messed :-) | 10:07 |
| sivang | tepsipakki: does gnomebaker use cdrecord or libnautilus-burn ? | 10:07 |
| sivang | guten morgen dholbach ! | 10:07 |
| tepsipakki | I believe it uses cdrecord | 10:15 |
| tepsipakki | at least it depends on it ;) | 10:16 |
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| Tonio__ | hello | 10:20 |
| lifeless | who operates breezy-backports ? | 10:22 |
| crimsun | Ubuntu does. | 10:23 |
| crimsun | (requests, along with associated build logs, are sent to the backports mailing list. I think Mez is the conduit.) | 10:24 |
| freeflying | lifeless: file your request to mailing list or forum | 10:24 |
| lifeless | freeflying: ECONTEXT | 10:25 |
| lifeless | crimsun: thanks | 10:25 |
| lifeless | Mez: ping | 10:25 |
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| allee | siretart: 'Forbidden' You don't have permission to access /revu1-incoming/kdissert-0603041545/<whatever> . Result: nobody can download files fromhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2097 | 11:39 |
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| tseng | hi dholbach | 12:18 |
| dholbach | hi tseng | 12:18 |
| tseng | dholbach: what do I need to add a 'new' package to universe | 12:19 |
| tseng | dholbach: (it was actually there before, later removed for bitrot, now fixed) | 12:19 |
| dholbach | tseng: mail James | 12:20 |
| tseng | dholbach: no no, all the cool kids tell me i need a top secret exception | 12:20 |
| tseng | its not a James job | 12:20 |
| dholbach | tseng: he will tell you what you need. | 12:21 |
| tseng | I am confused | 12:21 |
| tseng | I can upload the package fine by myself, it is a MOTU policy that is stopping me | 12:22 |
| dholbach | which one? | 12:22 |
| tseng | 'no new packages after FF' now | 12:22 |
| dholbach | a new upstream version? | 12:22 |
| dholbach | hmm | 12:22 |
| dholbach | ask James | 12:22 |
| dholbach | he'll know | 12:22 |
| dholbach | or wait - i can ask him | 12:22 |
| tseng | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseProcess | 12:22 |
| tseng | its here | 12:22 |
| tseng | # | 12:23 |
| tseng | # | 12:23 |
| tseng | Since entirely new packages in universe are relatively safe and attract a number of new developers, they will be liberally admitted until FeatureFreeze if they do not require additional or newer dependencies. | 12:23 |
| dholbach | i talked to james, mail him | 12:23 |
| dholbach | it's fine | 12:23 |
| tseng | its not quite entirely new, but sort of | 12:23 |
| tseng | ok, its not a sync at all | 12:24 |
| tseng | what am I to mail him? | 12:24 |
| tseng | its in revu | 12:24 |
| dholbach | it was removed from the archive, you want it to be included again | 12:24 |
| tseng | ok. | 12:25 |
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| danboid | Is this the right place to come to request packages for the ubuntu plf repos? | 01:45 |
| crimsun | I'm not sure what we have to do with PLF. They're an independent entity. | 01:46 |
| danboid | well, the Ubuntu PLF FAQ said I should come here and ask for a siretart on this channel to request a pack- siretart must be away? | 01:51 |
| crimsun | if he hasn't responded yet, he will eventually. | 01:52 |
| siretart | danboid: I'm currently at work, but, what is it? | 01:55 |
| siretart | danboid: you want to have a package in ubuntu? | 01:55 |
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| danboid | hi siretart- I just posted a message to the ubuntu-plf list requesting lxdvdrip and devede | 02:16 |
| danboid | both have already been packaged in marillat | 02:16 |
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| azeem | W73 | 02:19 |
| azeem | blah, sorry | 02:19 |
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| raphink | Malone #29895 | 04:29 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29895 in cupsys "same action is repeatedly logged" [Major,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29895 | 04:29 |
| ogra | * Add debian/patches/51_dont_log_ipp_printer_query.dpatch: Do not flood | 04:32 |
| ogra | access_log with successful CUPS-Get-Printers and Get-Printer-Attributes | 04:32 |
| ogra | queries (which are generated by gnome-cups-icon every 3 seconds). This is | 04:32 |
| ogra | a hideous and hackish patch, but it has to do until we dbusify cupsys | 04:32 |
| ogra | properly. (Malone #29895) | 04:32 |
| Ubugtu | malone bug 29895 in cupsys "same action is repeatedly logged" [Major,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29895 | 04:32 |
| ogra | raphink, from latest cupsys changelog ;) | 04:32 |
| raphink | yes I know ogra | 04:32 |
| raphink | this is why I was querrying this bug | 04:32 |
| raphink | to see if it was linked bith kdeprint one | 04:32 |
| ogra | :) | 04:32 |
| raphink | s/bith/with/ | 04:33 |
| raphink | desn't seem to be | 04:33 |
| raphink | but it's worth a try | 04:33 |
| raphink | when it's built | 04:33 |
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| Xoritor | can anyone here help me figure out why i cant get pdebuild to build 32bit binaries? | 06:14 |
| Xoritor | i have the 32bit chroot setup | 06:14 |
| Xoritor | pdebuild -- --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz --binary-arch i386 | 06:14 |
| Xoritor | that says i386 is not a valid dsc file | 06:14 |
| Xoritor | pdebuild -- --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz --binary-arch i386 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/libprelude_0.9.6.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | 06:15 |
| Xoritor | Command line parameter [i386] is not a valid .dsc file name | 06:15 |
| Xoritor | both invocations say the same thing | 06:15 |
| Xoritor | pbuilder build [options] .dsc-file | 06:16 |
| Xoritor | so the dsc should be the last "argument" | 06:16 |
| Xoritor | pbuilder build --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz --binary-arch i386 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/libprelude_0.9.6.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | 06:17 |
| Xoritor | Command line parameter [i386] is not a valid .dsc file name | 06:17 |
| Xoritor | it never gets past the i386 | 06:17 |
| Xoritor | :-/ | 06:17 |
| Xoritor | do i need the --binary-arch? | 06:19 |
| Xoritor | or since that chroot is i386 already will it just compile 32bit | 06:19 |
| Xoritor | nope | 06:19 |
| Xoritor | its trying to do x86_64 | 06:20 |
| Xoritor | checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu | 06:20 |
| Xoritor | :-( | 06:20 |
| Xoritor | pdebuild -- --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz /var/cache/pbuilder/result/libprelude_0.9.6.1-0ubuntu1.dsc | 06:20 |
| Xoritor | thats what i used | 06:20 |
| azeem | do you have an amd64 chroot as well? | 06:21 |
| Xoritor | yes | 06:21 |
| Xoritor | and i got it working!!! | 06:21 |
| Xoritor | azeem, i got a him to patch to link against glibcrypt directly! | 06:21 |
| Xoritor | :-D | 06:21 |
| Xoritor | yay | 06:21 |
| Xoritor | thank you by the way | 06:21 |
| azeem | no problem | 06:21 |
| Xoritor | and it builds great now | 06:21 |
| Xoritor | should i setup a pbuilderrc to use the DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=i386? | 06:22 |
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| azeem | so you still have that amd64 issue? | 06:23 |
| Xoritor | no | 06:23 |
| Xoritor | everything works great with amd64 | 06:23 |
| Xoritor | :-D | 06:23 |
| azeem | ok, so what is the problem? | 06:23 |
| Xoritor | just trying to also compile it 32bit on that same machine | 06:23 |
| Xoritor | ie... "cross compile" kinda | 06:23 |
| Xoritor | i have a 32bit chroot and a 64bit croot | 06:23 |
| azeem | I think you might need to execute something prior to entering the 32bit chroot | 06:24 |
| Xoritor | and i am trying to get pbuilder to do use the 32bit one | 06:24 |
| Xoritor | export DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=i386 maybe? | 06:24 |
| azeem | I never did it myself though, but there surely should be information about this on google | 06:24 |
| Xoritor | i am not finding much :-( | 06:24 |
| Xoritor | maybe my search terms are not right | 06:24 |
| azeem | a lot of Debian people now have amd64 machines and need to build i386 .debs to upload | 06:24 |
| Xoritor | yea | 06:24 |
| Xoritor | i found how to make a 32bit | 06:25 |
| Xoritor | but not how to _use_ it ;-) | 06:25 |
| Xoritor | heh | 06:25 |
| Xoritor | i mean with pbuilder that is | 06:25 |
| Xoritor | pdebuild -- --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz --binary-arch i386 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/libprelude_0.9.6.1-0ubuntu1.ds | 06:25 |
| Xoritor | that was my "best guess" | 06:25 |
| Xoritor | and it dies saying i386 is not a valid dsc | 06:26 |
| Xoritor | heh | 06:26 |
| Xoritor | well... s/ds/&c/ | 06:26 |
| Xoritor | bah! | 06:28 |
| Xoritor | i think i found it | 06:28 |
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| LaserJock | dholbach: Guten Abend | 06:39 |
| Mez | lifeless, pong | 06:44 |
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| Xoritor | ok... so that did not do what i thought it did... i did not have a 32bit chroot... it was just named as a 32bit chroot | 07:05 |
| Xoritor | heh | 07:05 |
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| Xoritor | what the heck | 07:15 |
| Xoritor | i keeps downloading 64bit even though i have everything set to use 32bit | 07:16 |
| Xoritor | sudo pbuilder create --binary-arch i386 --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz | 07:16 |
| Xoritor | export DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=i386 | 07:16 |
| Xoritor | is there something ELSE i have to do? | 07:16 |
| Xoritor | cause i dont see it on the man page... nor google... nor any other docs i have searched | 07:17 |
| LaserJock | Xoritor: do you have a 32-bit chroot? | 07:19 |
| Xoritor | i was trying to create one with pbuilder create | 07:19 |
| LaserJock | Xoritor: you could try building a 32-bit chroot and then build a pbuilder in that to see if it works any better | 07:20 |
| Xoritor | hmm | 07:21 |
| Xoritor | ok | 07:21 |
| Xoritor | debootstrap --arch i386 dapper chroot/ | 07:23 |
| Xoritor | that _should_ work right? | 07:23 |
| Xoritor | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is where its coming from | 07:23 |
| LaserJock | I think so | 07:27 |
| Xoritor | hmm | 07:28 |
| G0SUB | can anybody tell me why xscreensaver depends on ttf-freefont? | 07:29 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: doesn't appear to directly | 07:30 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: must be pulled in from one of the deps | 07:31 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock IMHO, the cool bullets that are displayed when we type in the passwd in lock screen comes from ttf-freefont | 07:31 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock it's not a dep in debian though | 07:32 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock this is a bug in my opinion | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | why? | 07:33 |
| G0SUB | the ubuntu xscreensaver should not depend on ttf-freefont ... | 07:34 |
| G0SUB | it doesn't in Debian | 07:34 |
| LaserJock | it doesn't | 07:34 |
| LaserJock | the ubuntu xscreensaver doesn't have ttf-freefont as a direct dependency | 07:36 |
| ogra | it has ... | 07:36 |
| ogra | in breezy | 07:36 |
| G0SUB | aah! | 07:36 |
| ogra | the lock screen uses a font from ttf-freefont for the dots in the password window | 07:37 |
| G0SUB | yep! I knew it | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | breezy, hah, who runs that ;-) | 07:37 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock :) | 07:37 |
| LaserJock | thanks ogra | 07:37 |
| ogra | its a ubuntu specific patch, so it wont draw in ttf-freefont in debian indeed :) | 07:37 |
| G0SUB | btw, xscreensaver coflicts with xscreensaver-gnome which in turn depends on xscreensaver | 07:38 |
| G0SUB | [in breezy] | 07:38 |
| ogra | i didnt change any deps there .. | 07:38 |
| ogra | xscreensaver-gnome ?? does that still exist ? i thought that was gnome1 | 07:38 |
| G0SUB | ogra may be none uses it ... but I just noticed the thing | 07:39 |
| ogra | nope | 07:39 |
| ogra | its doesnt exist anymore | 07:39 |
| G0SUB | hmm okay | 07:40 |
| G0SUB | ogra should I file a bug for the ttf-freefont issue? | 07:40 |
| ogra | why ? | 07:40 |
| ogra | the depoendency is needed | 07:40 |
| ogra | if you would take it away, the lock screen would break | 07:41 |
| G0SUB | ogra it's an issue with us since ttf-freefont has broken indic fonts [and has higher preference] ... to view indic text properly, ttf-indic-fonts is not enough, we have to remove ttf-freefont which breaks the whole system | 07:42 |
| G0SUB | I was just talking to a newbie who removed ttf-freefont which broke his gnome-desktop | 07:42 |
| ogra | but thats breezy ... | 07:43 |
| G0SUB | yeah, I get that ... if it's fixed in dapper, then no issues | 07:43 |
| ogra | we wont fix stuff in breezy unless its dataloss critical | 07:43 |
| G0SUB | thanks :) | 07:43 |
| ogra | yes, its fixed in dapper, since we dropped xscreensaver :) | 07:43 |
| LaserJock | ogra: that's one way of getting rid of bugs ;-) | 07:44 |
| G0SUB | ogra what are we using in dapper? | 07:44 |
| ogra | gnome-screensaver | 07:44 |
| G0SUB | ah, okay | 07:44 |
| ogra | LaserJock, haha ... given what i trade for it, it was a bad deal | 07:44 |
| ogra | even the lock screen patch took me nearly a week every release to adjust it and get it right | 07:45 |
| G0SUB | ogra does gnome-screensaver replace xscreensaver in dapper? | 07:45 |
| ogra | yup | 07:45 |
| G0SUB | great ... /me hope nothing will break during a dist-upgrade | 07:45 |
| ogra | already happened ... | 07:45 |
| G0SUB | hopes | 07:45 |
| ogra | nope, not hopes ... we switched weeks ago ... :) | 07:46 |
| G0SUB | :) | 07:46 |
| G0SUB | ogra btw, what screensaver will Kubuntu guys use? | 07:47 |
| ogra | no idea | 07:47 |
| G0SUB | heh | 07:47 |
| LaserJock | I think there is a KDE equivalent to gnome-screensaver | 07:48 |
| LaserJock | I'm sure it starts with a K ;-) | 07:48 |
| G0SUB | haha | 07:48 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 07:49 |
| Xoritor | hi person | 07:49 |
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| ogra | LaserJock, Knome-screensaver ? | 07:49 |
| ogra | naaah | 07:49 |
| Xoritor | ogra, no ksaver | 07:49 |
| Xoritor | err... forgot it has to be Ksaver | 07:50 |
| Xoritor | heh | 07:50 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock btw, can I join the Motu-Science team? | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | ogra: that's right ;-) | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: are you interested in Science related packages? | 07:51 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock yes, why not! I do a LOT of TeX | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: well, I'm starting a new member fee of $20 USD to support my Ubuntu habit ;-) | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: just kidding of course | 07:52 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock I wish I could pay :) | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: but yeah, if you are willing to be a part of the team just join on LP | 07:53 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock right-away :) | 07:53 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock I hope you'll give me some work to do | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: and join the ubuntu-science ML if you haven't already | 07:53 |
| phanatic | are there any public infos available about the conf after release? | 07:53 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: http://tauware.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-science | 07:54 |
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| G0SUB | LaserJock done | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: done | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: now get to work! ;-) | 07:57 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock give me some work | 07:57 |
| G0SUB | [please] | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: check out the wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Science | 07:58 |
| G0SUB | ok | 07:58 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: bug fixing is always nice, see tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/bug_list.html for a list of science related apps with bugs | 07:59 |
| G0SUB | okay | 07:59 |
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| Xoritor | LaserJock, yay! | 08:14 |
| Xoritor | yay! | 08:14 |
| Xoritor | chroot into my new 32bit chroot and pbuilder seems to be working great | 08:14 |
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| LaserJock | Xoritor: interesting, I would have thought it wouldn't have made much difference. | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | Xoritor: but as long as it works ;-) | 08:16 |
| Xoritor | yep | 08:19 |
| Xoritor | its all good | 08:20 |
| Xoritor | sweet! | 08:20 |
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| G0SUB | LaserJock is http://picfu.com/s/107/706302624 a good emblem for MOTU-Science? | 08:28 |
| Xoritor | LaserJock, well i should not have celebrated so early... it did not build the -dev for some reason... odd but im lookin into that now! | 08:28 |
| Xoritor | hahaha | 08:28 |
| netzmeister | hello.. | 08:28 |
| Xoritor | and no issues that time! | 08:29 |
| Xoritor | hah | 08:29 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock http://zope.gnowledge.org:8080/science.png | 08:32 |
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| LaserJock | G0SUB: well, since I'm a chemist I kinda like that emblem ;-) | 08:40 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock :) | 08:41 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: can we use it? | 08:41 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock of course! | 08:41 |
| G0SUB | I took it from openclipart.org | 08:41 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock the 2nd link has the resized emblem | 08:42 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: what about this one: http://openclipart.org/clipart//science/chemistry_flask_matthew__01.svg | 08:43 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock yeah, good too ... but I kinda like the test-tube beside ... | 08:43 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock both are equally good | 08:43 |
| LaserJock | netzmeister: Guten Abend | 08:43 |
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| netzmeister | LaserJock: Hi ;-) | 08:44 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: ok, I'll take to #launchpad about getting it as our emblem, thanks | 08:45 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock why do you have to talk to launchpad admins? | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | I don't think that was always there | 08:46 |
| G0SUB | oh, may be ... | 08:47 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock you need to scale it to 16x16 px ... that's MAX allowed | 08:47 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: the 2nd link is ok, right? | 08:47 |
| G0SUB | LaserJock yes, if you choose that :) | 08:48 |
| LaserJock | netzmeister: Wie geht es dir? | 08:48 |
| LaserJock | G0SUB: looks, good to me. We can always change it if we don't like it ;-) | 08:48 |
| G0SUB | yep | 08:48 |
| G0SUB | it looks awesome | 08:49 |
| netzmeister | LaserJock: fine, thx. and you? | 08:49 |
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| lifeless | Mez: hi | 09:41 |
| Mez | lifeless, hey - sup? | 09:41 |
| Mez | you pinged me this morning | 09:41 |
| lifeless | Mez: is there a breezy backport of bzr-dapper ? | 09:41 |
| Mez | lifeless: not that I know ow | 09:41 |
| Mez | of * | 09:41 |
| lifeless | Mez: we'd love for there to be one | 09:42 |
| lifeless | ;) | 09:42 |
| Mez | lifeless, I'm sure you would | 09:43 |
| Mez | however - at the moment | 09:43 |
| Mez | soyuz doesnt support backports | 09:43 |
| Mez | :( | 09:43 |
| lifeless | ah | 09:45 |
| lifeless | does that mean there are no backports for breezy anymore ? | 09:45 |
| Mez | lifeless I hope not ;) | 09:45 |
| lifeless | just no new ones ? | 09:46 |
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| Kyral | oy...Looks like Riddell got another KDE convert | 10:08 |
| G0SUB | haha | 10:11 |
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| kiko | hello there | 10:11 |
| Kyral | lo | 10:11 |
| G0SUB | kiko :) | 10:11 |
| kiko | just wanted to check if people found launchpad any slower or faster today than usual | 10:11 |
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| Kyral | In a way I have come full circle | 10:11 |
| Kyral | Back when I started using Linux with Slack10 about 2-3 years ago I used KDE :P | 10:12 |
| G0SUB | kiko I see 2% performance boost | 10:12 |
| kiko | I like the precision, G0SUB | 10:12 |
| G0SUB | kiko hehe ... | 10:12 |
| kiko | we moved to a new database server | 10:12 |
| G0SUB | yes, I got the mail ... | 10:12 |
| kiko | it has gobs of memory | 10:12 |
| G0SUB | I gues you are moving to PG 8.1 soon too | 10:13 |
| kiko | we are indeed | 10:13 |
| G0SUB | kiko I hope launchpad will perform better under more load ... you won't see much difference with the same load in my opinion | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | I like the new bug listing format in LP | 10:17 |
| kiko | I'm happy to hear that | 10:17 |
| kiko | I think it's nice too | 10:17 |
| kiko | we're going to knock off the right column for wide pages and only have a left column | 10:17 |
| kiko | should reduce the stress with wrapping | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | although I would like to see a somewhat similar thing done to Pakcages | 10:17 |
| G0SUB | see you guys later ... it's bed time here | 10:18 |
| kiko | well | 10:18 |
| kiko | LaserJock, did you note that +packages now has somewhat more useful information? | 10:18 |
| LaserJock | yes | 10:18 |
| kiko | I will improve it further time allowing | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | but I only get about 4-5 packages /screen | 10:19 |
| LaserJock | for instance https://launchpad.net/people/slomo/+packages has a lot of scrolling | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | but at this point I just love having that info available | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | kiko: how hard would it to be to use xml-rpc on Malone? | 10:22 |
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| kiko | LaserJock, I'll reformat that list soon | 10:24 |
| kiko | LaserJock, it's not that much work but it's really not on the map yet | 10:25 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: is there anything set up yet to do larger scale bug queries? I'd like to be able to get a list of bugs given a list of source packages | 10:26 |
| kiko | LaserJock, yeah, there's a search and filter spec being worked on | 10:26 |
| kiko | it needs sign-off but it would make what you want possible | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | kiko: and that would work for lists of source packages ~500 big? | 10:27 |
| kiko | mmmm | 10:27 |
| kiko | no it wouldn't | 10:27 |
| kiko | what are you trying to do? :-) | 10:27 |
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| LaserJock | I lead a team of MOTUs that look after science related packages, we have a list of ~450 source packages. I want to be able to get a list of all the bugs. | 10:28 |
| kiko | an interesting use case | 10:29 |
| kiko | and I have no idea how to help you fix this | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | I think it will be a popular one here | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | we have lots of teams | 10:29 |
| kiko | hmmmm | 10:29 |
| LaserJock | not usually will as large a number of source packages but still | 10:30 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: for instance, here is the list of MOTU Teams : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams | 10:30 |
| LaserJock | I'm sure each team would like to get a list of bugs given a set of source packages | 10:31 |
| allee | LaserJock: You can subscribe to pkgs. On subscribtion you can add your e-mail or the one of the team you are a member | 10:31 |
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| LaserJock | allee: that is a possibility but still requires us to form a list from emails. | 10:31 |
| LaserJock | allee: which isn't necessarily bad | 10:32 |
| kiko_ | LaserJock, that is easier to do because you can use the X-Launchpad-Bug header | 10:32 |
| kiko_ | other than that I'll ask you to email launchpad-users to describe your use case | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | sure, the MOTU are already using that header | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | but I think that large scale query would be a fairly popular use case | 10:33 |
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| LaserJock | allee: but again that would require us to go through all the source packages and subscribe ourselves, doable for sure but not as nice as being able to query Malone. | 10:34 |
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| LaserJock | I'm just interested in the most efficient and effective way of getting bug listings for large numbers of source packages | 10:35 |
| allee | LaserJock: But telling malone your list of 500 pkg each time you want to query is also not very handy ;) | 10:35 |
| LaserJock | allee: actually lucas made a script to do that, but it is verrry slow. Parsing each html file I believe | 10:36 |
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| kiko | LaserJock, if you give me a list of source package names I can set a team up as an initial bug contact for them | 10:36 |
| LaserJock | kiko: well, that is an interesting point to me | 10:36 |
| kiko | I can fast-track it on the DBA | 10:36 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: the problem for me is that MOTU Science is sort of a subset of MOTU so while MOTU Science is particularly interested in these packages any MOTU can change them and the bug reports should still go to universe-bugs@l.u.c | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | so I'm not sure if MOTU Science should be the initial bug contact or if MOTU should, does that make sense? | 10:39 |
| kiko | LaserJock, when you say "change them" what do you mean? | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | kiko: sorry, I mean upload bug fixes, etc. | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | kiko: so while MOTU Science would like to have a list of bugs, etc. I don't think we should be taking away from MOTU | 10:40 |
| kiko | you don't need to take them away | 10:40 |
| kiko | you can be an additional bug contact. | 10:40 |
| LaserJock | ah, well that would be a bit more like what I'd like | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | kiko: is there something in the works to automatically assign bugs on Universe packages to MOTU? | 10:41 |
| kiko | well, you're in good hands | 10:41 |
| kiko | not exactly | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | it seems like I heard that somewhere | 10:41 |
| kiko | /all bugs/ on ubuntu have the Ubuntu bugs team subscribed to them initially | 10:42 |
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| kiko | some source packages have bug contacts; their bugs have the correct bug contacts subscribed to them | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | so does the initial bug contact just mean you are automatically subscribed to any bug on that packages? | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | just to be clear | 10:43 |
| kiko | correct. | 10:43 |
| kiko | to any bug /filed/ on the specified package | 10:43 |
| kiko | it is not retroactive | 10:43 |
| kiko | and it is not implicit | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | ok | 10:43 |
| kiko | but we can subscribe the team to existing bugs | 10:43 |
| LaserJock | kiko: well, I've sort of done that already | 10:43 |
| kiko | I'm writing a FAQ entry for you | 10:43 |
| kiko | then it's cool | 10:44 |
| kiko | you just need to have the contacts updated for the packages you want | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | kiko: I actually went through every source package and looked for bugs :( | 10:44 |
| kiko | lots of clicking | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | yep ;-) | 10:44 |
| kiko | next time talk to me first :) | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | ok, so if I gave you a list of packages can you add motuscience to the initial bug contact? | 10:45 |
| kiko | yep | 10:51 |
| LaserJock | kiko: I was thinking that initial bug contact was for assigning by default not subscribing by default. That is why I didn't want to do that | 10:52 |
| kiko | there are no default assignees in malone | 10:52 |
| kiko | you need to assign people manually | 10:52 |
| LaserJock | good | 10:52 |
| kiko | it is in some ways a feature | 10:52 |
| kiko | but you need to get used to it | 10:52 |
| LaserJock | ok, so should I still email a use case to launchpad-users? | 10:53 |
| kiko | well | 10:53 |
| kiko | that depends. | 10:53 |
| kiko | do you want the use case fulfilled, or is having the IBC subscribed enough? | 10:53 |
| LaserJock | hmmm, I think it would eventually be nice to use xml-rpc to query large numbers of packages but I think the IBC + mailing list is a good solution | 10:54 |
| LaserJock | kiko: btw, thanks for all the help. LP is still quite mysterious to me ;-) | 10:57 |
| kiko | it's a bit of a mystery to us all, but we'll keep banging on it | 10:57 |
| kiko | thanks | 10:57 |
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| LaserJock | netzmeister: gut, danke ;-) | 10:59 |
| netzmeister | hehe | 10:59 |
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| LaserJock | kiko: ok well, it might take me a bit to get the package list I want (I might weed out some) and then I'll email you, OK? | 11:02 |
| kiko | sure. | 11:02 |
| LaserJock | thanks, that should make my life a bit easier | 11:02 |
| netzmeister | LaserJock: Do you know a package where i can look how i can spilt a package?! | 11:10 |
| netzmeister | s/spilt/split | 11:10 |
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| ogra | netzmeister, the debdiff between xscreensaver 4.23-4ubuntu3 and 4.23-4ubuntu4 | 11:14 |
| LaserJock | netzmeister: grass might also be a good example | 11:16 |
| ogra | ah, sad, ubuntu3 is gone from the archive already | 11:17 |
| LaserJock | ogra: yeah, seems like they go fast sometimes. that was a problem for MoM | 11:17 |
| kiko | well, we're at ubuntu 6.04 already, 3 is old news | 11:17 |
| netzmeister | thx ogra & LaserJock | 11:18 |
| ogra | LaserJock, the big problem for mom was the crash of snapshot.debian.net | 11:18 |
| ogra | kiko, ah, come on :) | 11:18 |
| ogra | 3 is never as old as it seems ... | 11:18 |
| netzmeister | what is "lintian-overrides"? | 11:24 |
| ogra | you can use it for weird lintian errors that are not solveable | 11:24 |
| netzmeister | ah okay.. | 11:25 |
| ogra | have a look at bibshelf, its a wonderful example (the best i've ever had) | 11:25 |
| netzmeister | for what? | 11:25 |
| netzmeister | splitting? | 11:25 |
| ogra | o see a linitan-override and in which cases you should use them | 11:25 |
| ogra | :) | 11:25 |
| ogra | s/o/to/ | 11:25 |
| netzmeister | okay.. | 11:26 |
| LaserJock | darn it, my stupid mac is trying to use both i386 and ppc gcc at the same time | 11:31 |
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| ogra | are the binaries called *_i386-powerpc.deb then ? | 11:33 |
| LaserJock | no, but I keep getting "cputype (7, architecture i386) does not match cputype (18) for specified -arch flag: ppc (file not loaded)" | 11:35 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 11:38 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 11:38 |
| kiko | ajmitch! | 11:38 |
| tseng | kiko! | 11:41 |
| ogra | tseng! | 11:41 |
| kiko | tseng! | 11:41 |
| kiko | what would the world be without the motu | 11:42 |
| tseng | ogra: up late? | 11:42 |
| ogra | tseng, 23:42 ... | 11:42 |
| ogra | its not *that* late | 11:42 |
| tseng | i stop working at 5pm :D | 11:42 |
| tseng | you are still here | 11:42 |
| ogra | i'm just in a phase where i go to bed ~3 | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | kiko! haven't seen you around here for awhile | 11:46 |
| LaserJock | kiko was helping me out :-) | 11:46 |
| ajmitch | ah right | 11:47 |
| kiko | actually | 11:47 |
| kiko | I came in to ask if the site felt faster today | 11:47 |
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| kiko | but nobody gave me much of an answer! :) | 11:47 |
| ajmitch | the main thing I noticed yesterday was a new bug listing, which is much improved | 11:47 |
| ajmitch | kiko: DB migration went ok? | 11:48 |
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| tseng | kiko: any operation in particular? | 11:49 |
| tseng | kiko: its pretty resonponsive in general | 11:49 |
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| ajmitch | and we know what they're like | 11:50 |
| kiko | ajmitch, yeah, it appears that it worked well | 11:50 |
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| kiko | the new server has more memory than the database takes up | 11:50 |
| ajmitch | for now | 11:51 |
| ajmitch | I imagine the DB will grow fairly quickly | 11:51 |
| tseng | kiko: could you put a filter in the model to disallow filing of stupid bugs? | 11:51 |
| tseng | bayesian | 11:51 |
| tseng | :P | 11:51 |
| tseng | 'i built muine from cvs, it doesnt work.' | 11:51 |
| kiko | heh | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | match anything that mentions /usr/local | 11:52 |
| kiko | that would trigger lots of false positives | 11:52 |
| kiko | "I did NOT install to /usr/local" boom | 11:52 |
| ajmitch | that's ok | 11:53 |
| ajmitch | it makes our job easier | 11:53 |
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| ajmitch | and I need to do another upload RSN to fix the dep | 11:58 |
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