[12:04] desrt: the warnings for the code were not requirements [12:05] desrt: that's why they where off-band [12:05] hub; nod. i rereleased anyway to fix those other issues you also mentioned out of band [12:07] hub; i uploaded the 0.6.1 to revu with a new manpage, etc... [12:08] MrRio: you can just remove the .upload file or use dput -f to upload the same version if you want === Xoritor [n=xoritor@xorit.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] anyone setup pbuilder on amd64? [12:15] we are in feature freeze, aren't we? [12:15] yep [12:15] desrt: you got my vote :-) [12:15] desrt: but it won't be in dapper... [12:16] hub; !! [12:16] desrt: you needs to more advocates :-) [12:16] anyone that can help me troubleshoot setting up pbuilder on amd64? [12:16] s/to/two/ [12:16] hub; tseng already agreed :) [12:16] ? [12:16] desrt: tell him to advocate it :-) [12:16] advocates of what? [12:16] he only needs one more [12:17] tseng: yeah. [12:17] tseng: but since it will have to wait, maybe you can put your vote on REVU :-) [12:17] what has to wait [12:17] ? [12:18] tseng: feature freeze, no? [12:18] hub: feature freeze has never applied to new universe packages in the past [12:18] hub: he could ask for an exception I suppose [12:18] tseng: it is [12:18] tseng: I think it is [12:18] LaserJock: point me to a mail that says so please [12:19] tseng: that was discussed at UBZ [12:19] tseng: hold on [12:19] LaserJock: i have been doing this for 3 releases now [12:19] anyone help me with this? http://pastebin.com/585958 [12:19] tseng: I don't know if it was in an email but it was at a MOTU meeting, UVF and FF apply to us [12:19] tseng: it has been discussed at UBZ afaik [12:19] or tell where to get more help? [12:19] LaserJock: what does UVF and FF have to do with NEW [12:19] FF is for NEW [12:20] sigh [12:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze say no new package [12:20] but does not say explicitly universe or not [12:20] whats the new packages? [12:20] Xoritor: packages that haven't been in Ubuntu before [12:20] that page is so vague as to be useless [12:21] ah [12:21] and its written by corey burger, who, no offense, intended, is not any kind of package maintainer afaik === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] yes, but I believe we covered this quite a while ago in a MOTU meeting that UVF and FF apply to Universe as they do to main [12:21] tseng: well, I just gave my vote. [12:22] sigh [12:22] UVF and FF can apply all they want [12:22] "The point at which we cease creating and modifying internal features and packages." [12:22] traditionally, we have discouraged motus from working on new packages [12:22] we happily accepted new packages that came in anyway [12:23] like from desrt, who isnt interested in bugfixing $randomuniversepackage anyway [12:23] and no new packages after FF except by exception. You might talk to dholbach about it though [12:23] tseng; lies! muine :) [12:23] nothing on this page says anything about new packages [12:23] in certain terms [12:24] to contradict our precedent [12:24] tseng: it changed this time... no NEW packages after FF [12:24] slomo_: id love to see it in clear writing [12:24] after I do, I'd love to get an exception anyway [12:24] fwiw, muine-shell used to be in universe [12:25] it was removed because it failed to compile against the new dbus [12:25] i merely fixed that [12:25] tseng: i know no clear writing anywhere... but it was decided at a meeting, maybe grep the logs ;) [12:25] tseng: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseProcess [12:25] slomo_: I was at the table when this was discussed [12:25] ajmitch: thanks. [12:26] ajmitch: await my appeal === pagefault [n=pagefaul@67.71.47.247] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:26] tseng; if you're planning on applying for exception you might want to make it on those grounds [12:26] tseng: I think exceptions are warranted [12:26] desrt: indeed. [12:26] desrt: it was? [12:26] hub; it was. === pagefault [n=pagefaul@67.71.47.247] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [12:27] desrt: so why didn't you reuse the existing package? [12:27] i used to have it installed. i assume it was coming from universe [12:27] hub; i couldn't find it [12:27] ah ok [12:45] siretart: ping [12:51] anyone seen this error? [12:51] W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build/29171/. dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu8_amd64.deb [12:51] pbuilder: debootstrap failed [12:52] could anyone tell me a diff mirror to use for pbuilder? [12:52] MIRRORSITE=http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu [12:52] thats what im using now [12:59] Xoritor: are you making a dapper pbuilder? === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] LaserJock, yes [01:00] LaserJock, trying to... it works for i386 [01:00] LaserJock, just dies with that on amd64 [01:04] Xoritor: you might try building it for breezy first and then upgrading it. === pietrus [n=pietrus@c925a31c.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] pbuilder create --distribution breezy? [01:05] like that or edit the pbuilderrc [01:06] that worked to get it to breezy [01:06] lets see if it works over all [01:06] ;-) [01:06] thx === toma [i=toma@ip83.kovoks.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ooh,] [01:29] LaserJock, that worked! [01:29] well... have not tried the upgrade yet [01:30] k [01:30] oh hmm [01:30] it didnt [01:30] i thought it did [01:30] I: Base system installed successfully. [01:31] but then it does not work [01:31] E: failed to find /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz, have you done to create your base tarball yet? [01:31] suck [01:32] odd that it said sucessful [01:32] then was not [01:32] ok, what did you try to do? === mxpxpod [n=bryan@unaffiliated/mxpxpod] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] E: Type 'http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic' is not known on line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list [01:33] that was the error that killed it [01:33] -> installing dummy policy-rc.d [01:33] E: Type 'http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic' is not known on line 22 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list [01:33] i tried pbuilder create --distribution breezy [01:33] it said success [01:33] but i was not reading further... :-( [01:33] my fault [01:34] trying it again [01:34] ok are you using the Howto on the wiki? [01:34] yea [01:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto [01:35] did you adjust your /etc/pbuilder/apt.config ? [01:35] yea [01:35] it shouldn't be looking for source-o-matic === crimsun [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] hey crimsun [01:36] hey ajmitch [01:36] crimsun: I finally have sound on the laptop, after getting the CVS drivers to build [01:36] ajmitch: rock! [01:36] doh... i mast have not saved my changes [01:36] :-( [01:36] sorry [01:37] thx for being a good sounding board ;-) [01:38] np [01:45] grr [01:45] E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f. [01:46] trying again [01:46] :-/ [01:46] crimsun: I guess it might be worth getting patches in, or hopefully alsa 1.0.11 will be out before kernel freeze [01:50] ajmitch: hmm, integrating alsa bk will be work due to the struct changes, but the hda changes can be done [01:54] and again... === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:03] so is breezy borked with pbuilder for amd64 or what? [02:03] it should work [02:03] err... or am i just not doing something right [02:04] it died 3 times so far... im running with --debug now [02:04] maybe its the "mirror" im hitting [02:04] W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times. === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] thats after a few diff things === jaldhar_ is now known as jaldhar [02:21] hahahahahaha\ [02:21] LaserJock, want to hear the stupid issue that caused all the problems? === Xoritor is kinda paranoid so... [02:23] LaserJock, i had /var mounted with nodev (duh) [02:23] ah === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] my normal mode of thinking is... /var does not need devices, so nodev is ok [02:23] and normally it does not [02:24] and it built the 64bit dapper just fine after fixing that [02:25] great [02:26] question though... can i have my 64bit machine compile the 32bit stuff using pbuilder also? [02:26] that should work fine right? === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] --binary-arch i386 or something should what changes that right? [02:28] would i need 2 diff base.tgz setups... or can you have 2 diff ones? [02:29] nm... found the answer === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.212.213] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] yay [03:08] yay [03:08] hip [03:08] hip [03:08] horray === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-142-11.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-142-11.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Xnix [n=xnix@n157s046.ntc.blacksburg.shentel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raptoid [n=raptoid@81.213.74.39] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] interesting [03:50] i thought pbuilder was supposed to install all of the things you would need to build stuff [03:51] ie... byacc [03:51] etc... [03:51] it does, if a package specifies the packages needed in its build-depends [03:52] aaah [03:52] thank you [03:52] hey ajmitch [03:53] odd that i didnt have to specify byacc for 32bit [03:53] is that one of the diffs between 64 and 32 bit? [03:54] or maybe what im trying to compile needs byacc for amd64 [03:54] but not for i386 === Xoritor wonders [03:55] or the source is wonky [03:55] & needs fixed up :) [03:55] I'd say it's likely that it does need it to build === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] heh [03:56] or the 32bit includes byacc by default, but the 64bit does not [03:56] :-/ [03:56] and adding that fixed it just fine === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-217-078-207-6.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-142-11.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] hi LaserJock [04:41] yo LJ [04:42] hi ajmitch [04:42] Kyral: hi [04:42] sup? [04:43] working on a presentation for Tuesday [04:43] is LP down? [04:43] LaserJock: yes [04:44] they are swapping out the db server [04:44] is there an openoffice.org package that is all of the help files? [04:44] instead of just language specific ones [04:46] can we still upload if LP is down? [04:46] yes [04:46] they'll just be queued, more than likely (like my vlc upload) === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:13] good night MOTUs [05:16] what would be a reasonable amount of time to wait for a Debian maintainer to fix a bug before we do it ourselves? [05:17] week or two? [05:17] of course if we're close to relase might be easier just to fix.. [05:17] send patch [05:17] i mean sending patches is always a good thing to do? [05:18] Lathiat: hmm, thanks === Kyral is away: Shower! [05:33] yay, the sort of away message we really want to know about === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-36.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:57] hi minghua [05:58] evening LaserJock === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-80-95-221.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] Arrgh, launchpad is down === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar [06:36] minghua: yeah, until ~0600 UTC I think, moving the db I believe [06:37] LaserJock: bad timing for me, I was expecting to find sponsors for two of my uploads this evening [06:38] but wait, it's 05:37 UTC now [06:38] minghua: well, uploads are still possible but they will just be queued I think === GNULinuxer [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-111-122.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === saads [n=saads@toronto-HSE-ppp4194017.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === saads [n=saads@toronto-HSE-ppp4194017.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === saads [n=saads@toronto-HSE-ppp4194017.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:17] yay, launchpad is back [07:20] yay [07:20] sort of.... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs doesn't work [07:22] hello MOTUs there, does any MOTU have time to sponsor two uploads from me? [07:23] on is for apt-proxy, bug #29267, UVF exception already granted [07:23] malone bug 29267 in apt-proxy "apt-proxy crashes after upgrading" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29267 [07:23] wow, new & improved layout, finally [07:23] one is for scim-hangul, bug #33763, adding automatic start (im-switch) support [07:24] malone bug 33763 in scim-hangul "scim-hangul: Add im-switch support" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/33763 === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.38.235.51] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === saads [n=saads@toronto-HSE-ppp4194017.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua sighs [07:38] bad day to ask for sponsors, I suppose === Hobbsee [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] howdy, anyone around? === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-111-122.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] hi === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GNULinuxer [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c141165.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549F0244.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] hi motus [09:07] has anyone taken a look at eroastr? it fails even to create the iso right. I think it needs some quick love === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] sivang: aren't there better alternatives now? gnomebaker for one.. [09:47] for me, eroaster has always been broken.. === dholbach [n=daniel@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-152-1-31-2.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:04] good morning! [10:04] evening dholbach! === Hobbsee ponders - to file a bug, or to file a bug AND fix it? === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] tepsipakki: I was just trying to use it as reference for wrapping cdrecord in python, but the code is so messed :-) [10:07] tepsipakki: does gnomebaker use cdrecord or libnautilus-burn ? [10:07] guten morgen dholbach ! [10:15] I believe it uses cdrecord [10:16] at least it depends on it ;) === Tonio__ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] hello [10:22] who operates breezy-backports ? [10:23] Ubuntu does. [10:24] (requests, along with associated build logs, are sent to the backports mailing list. I think Mez is the conduit.) [10:24] lifeless: file your request to mailing list or forum [10:25] freeflying: ECONTEXT [10:25] crimsun: thanks [10:25] Mez: ping === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:39] siretart: 'Forbidden' You don't have permission to access /revu1-incoming/kdissert-0603041545/ . Result: nobody can download files fromhttp://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2097 === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:18] hi dholbach [12:18] hi tseng [12:19] dholbach: what do I need to add a 'new' package to universe [12:19] dholbach: (it was actually there before, later removed for bitrot, now fixed) [12:20] tseng: mail James [12:20] dholbach: no no, all the cool kids tell me i need a top secret exception [12:20] its not a James job [12:21] tseng: he will tell you what you need. [12:21] I am confused [12:22] I can upload the package fine by myself, it is a MOTU policy that is stopping me [12:22] which one? [12:22] 'no new packages after FF' now [12:22] a new upstream version? [12:22] hmm [12:22] ask James [12:22] he'll know [12:22] or wait - i can ask him [12:22] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseProcess [12:22] its here [12:23] # [12:23] # [12:23] Since entirely new packages in universe are relatively safe and attract a number of new developers, they will be liberally admitted until FeatureFreeze if they do not require additional or newer dependencies. [12:23] i talked to james, mail him [12:23] it's fine [12:23] its not quite entirely new, but sort of [12:24] ok, its not a sync at all [12:24] what am I to mail him? [12:24] its in revu [12:24] it was removed from the archive, you want it to be included again [12:25] ok. === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === KillerKiwi2006_ [n=chatzill@219-89-202-222.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === KillerKiwi2006_ is now known as KillerKiwi2006 === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === torkel [i=torkel@69-188.umenet.t3.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === danboid [n=d@213.78.209.47] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] Is this the right place to come to request packages for the ubuntu plf repos? [01:46] I'm not sure what we have to do with PLF. They're an independent entity. [01:51] well, the Ubuntu PLF FAQ said I should come here and ask for a siretart on this channel to request a pack- siretart must be away? [01:52] if he hasn't responded yet, he will eventually. [01:55] danboid: I'm currently at work, but, what is it? 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This is [04:32] a hideous and hackish patch, but it has to do until we dbusify cupsys [04:32] properly. (Malone #29895) [04:32] malone bug 29895 in cupsys "same action is repeatedly logged" [Major,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29895 [04:32] raphink, from latest cupsys changelog ;) [04:32] yes I know ogra [04:32] this is why I was querrying this bug [04:32] to see if it was linked bith kdeprint one [04:32] :) [04:33] s/bith/with/ [04:33] desn't seem to be [04:33] but it's worth a try [04:33] when it's built === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Toadstool [n=jcorbier@maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=lionel@st-209-250.student.fundp.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === firehare [n=firehare@60.181.145.150] has joined #ubuntu-motu === firehare [n=firehare@60.181.145.150] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d092005.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Xoritor [n=xoritor@user-119atva.biz.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ViViD [n=vivid@c-67-160-125-239.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] can anyone here help me figure out why i cant get pdebuild to build 32bit binaries? [06:14] i have the 32bit chroot setup [06:14] pdebuild -- --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz --binary-arch i386 [06:14] that says i386 is not a valid dsc file [06:15] pdebuild -- --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz --binary-arch i386 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/libprelude_0.9.6.1-0ubuntu1.dsc [06:15] Command line parameter [i386] is not a valid .dsc file name [06:15] both invocations say the same thing [06:16] pbuilder build [options] .dsc-file [06:16] so the dsc should be the last "argument" [06:17] pbuilder build --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz --binary-arch i386 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/libprelude_0.9.6.1-0ubuntu1.dsc [06:17] Command line parameter [i386] is not a valid .dsc file name [06:17] it never gets past the i386 [06:17] :-/ [06:19] do i need the --binary-arch? [06:19] or since that chroot is i386 already will it just compile 32bit [06:19] nope [06:20] its trying to do x86_64 [06:20] checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu [06:20] :-( [06:20] pdebuild -- --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz /var/cache/pbuilder/result/libprelude_0.9.6.1-0ubuntu1.dsc [06:20] thats what i used [06:21] do you have an amd64 chroot as well? [06:21] yes [06:21] and i got it working!!! [06:21] azeem, i got a him to patch to link against glibcrypt directly! [06:21] :-D [06:21] yay [06:21] thank you by the way [06:21] no problem [06:21] and it builds great now [06:22] should i setup a pbuilderrc to use the DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=i386? === LaserJock [n=laserjoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] so you still have that amd64 issue? [06:23] no [06:23] everything works great with amd64 [06:23] :-D [06:23] ok, so what is the problem? [06:23] just trying to also compile it 32bit on that same machine [06:23] ie... "cross compile" kinda [06:23] i have a 32bit chroot and a 64bit croot [06:24] I think you might need to execute something prior to entering the 32bit chroot [06:24] and i am trying to get pbuilder to do use the 32bit one [06:24] export DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=i386 maybe? [06:24] I never did it myself though, but there surely should be information about this on google [06:24] i am not finding much :-( [06:24] maybe my search terms are not right [06:24] a lot of Debian people now have amd64 machines and need to build i386 .debs to upload [06:24] yea [06:25] i found how to make a 32bit [06:25] but not how to _use_ it ;-) [06:25] heh [06:25] i mean with pbuilder that is [06:25] pdebuild -- --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz --binary-arch i386 /var/cache/pbuilder/result/libprelude_0.9.6.1-0ubuntu1.ds [06:25] that was my "best guess" [06:26] and it dies saying i386 is not a valid dsc [06:26] heh [06:26] well... s/ds/&c/ [06:28] bah! [06:28] i think i found it === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] dholbach: Guten Abend [06:44] lifeless, pong === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === toma [i=toma@ip83.kovoks.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === G0SUB [i=ghoseb@unaffiliated/gnulinuxer] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nomed [n=nomed@host222-58.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-111-122.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] ok... so that did not do what i thought it did... i did not have a 32bit chroot... it was just named as a 32bit chroot [07:05] heh === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:15] what the heck [07:16] i keeps downloading 64bit even though i have everything set to use 32bit [07:16] sudo pbuilder create --binary-arch i386 --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-i386.tgz [07:16] export DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=i386 [07:16] is there something ELSE i have to do? [07:17] cause i dont see it on the man page... nor google... nor any other docs i have searched [07:19] Xoritor: do you have a 32-bit chroot? [07:19] i was trying to create one with pbuilder create [07:20] Xoritor: you could try building a 32-bit chroot and then build a pbuilder in that to see if it works any better [07:21] hmm [07:21] ok [07:23] debootstrap --arch i386 dapper chroot/ [07:23] that _should_ work right? [07:23] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is where its coming from [07:27] I think so [07:28] hmm [07:29] can anybody tell me why xscreensaver depends on ttf-freefont? [07:30] G0SUB: doesn't appear to directly [07:31] G0SUB: must be pulled in from one of the deps [07:31] LaserJock IMHO, the cool bullets that are displayed when we type in the passwd in lock screen comes from ttf-freefont [07:32] LaserJock it's not a dep in debian though [07:33] LaserJock this is a bug in my opinion [07:33] why? [07:34] the ubuntu xscreensaver should not depend on ttf-freefont ... [07:34] it doesn't in Debian [07:34] it doesn't [07:36] the ubuntu xscreensaver doesn't have ttf-freefont as a direct dependency [07:36] it has ... [07:36] in breezy [07:36] aah! [07:37] the lock screen uses a font from ttf-freefont for the dots in the password window [07:37] yep! I knew it [07:37] breezy, hah, who runs that ;-) [07:37] LaserJock :) [07:37] thanks ogra [07:37] its a ubuntu specific patch, so it wont draw in ttf-freefont in debian indeed :) [07:38] btw, xscreensaver coflicts with xscreensaver-gnome which in turn depends on xscreensaver [07:38] [in breezy] [07:38] i didnt change any deps there .. [07:38] xscreensaver-gnome ?? does that still exist ? i thought that was gnome1 [07:39] ogra may be none uses it ... but I just noticed the thing [07:39] nope [07:39] its doesnt exist anymore [07:40] hmm okay [07:40] ogra should I file a bug for the ttf-freefont issue? [07:40] why ? [07:40] the depoendency is needed [07:41] if you would take it away, the lock screen would break [07:42] ogra it's an issue with us since ttf-freefont has broken indic fonts [and has higher preference] ... to view indic text properly, ttf-indic-fonts is not enough, we have to remove ttf-freefont which breaks the whole system [07:42] I was just talking to a newbie who removed ttf-freefont which broke his gnome-desktop [07:43] but thats breezy ... [07:43] yeah, I get that ... if it's fixed in dapper, then no issues [07:43] we wont fix stuff in breezy unless its dataloss critical [07:43] thanks :) [07:43] yes, its fixed in dapper, since we dropped xscreensaver :) [07:44] ogra: that's one way of getting rid of bugs ;-) [07:44] ogra what are we using in dapper? [07:44] gnome-screensaver [07:44] ah, okay [07:44] LaserJock, haha ... given what i trade for it, it was a bad deal [07:45] even the lock screen patch took me nearly a week every release to adjust it and get it right [07:45] ogra does gnome-screensaver replace xscreensaver in dapper? [07:45] yup [07:45] great ... /me hope nothing will break during a dist-upgrade [07:45] already happened ... [07:45] hopes [07:46] nope, not hopes ... we switched weeks ago ... :) [07:46] :) [07:47] ogra btw, what screensaver will Kubuntu guys use? [07:47] no idea [07:47] heh [07:48] I think there is a KDE equivalent to gnome-screensaver [07:48] I'm sure it starts with a K ;-) [07:48] haha === phanatic [n=Szilvesz@dsl54009FB5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:49] hi people [07:49] hi person === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:49] LaserJock, Knome-screensaver ? [07:49] naaah [07:49] ogra, no ksaver [07:50] err... forgot it has to be Ksaver [07:50] heh [07:50] LaserJock btw, can I join the Motu-Science team? [07:51] ogra: that's right ;-) [07:51] G0SUB: are you interested in Science related packages? [07:51] LaserJock yes, why not! I do a LOT of TeX [07:52] G0SUB: well, I'm starting a new member fee of $20 USD to support my Ubuntu habit ;-) [07:52] G0SUB: just kidding of course [07:52] LaserJock I wish I could pay :) [07:53] G0SUB: but yeah, if you are willing to be a part of the team just join on LP [07:53] LaserJock right-away :) [07:53] LaserJock I hope you'll give me some work to do [07:53] G0SUB: and join the ubuntu-science ML if you haven't already [07:53] are there any public infos available about the conf after release? [07:54] G0SUB: http://tauware.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-science === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] LaserJock done [07:57] G0SUB: done [07:57] G0SUB: now get to work! ;-) [07:57] LaserJock give me some work [07:58] [please] [07:58] G0SUB: check out the wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/Science [07:58] ok [07:59] G0SUB: bug fixing is always nice, see tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/bug_list.html for a list of science related apps with bugs [07:59] okay === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp_ [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] LaserJock, yay! [08:14] yay! [08:14] chroot into my new 32bit chroot and pbuilder seems to be working great === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] Xoritor: interesting, I would have thought it wouldn't have made much difference. [08:16] Xoritor: but as long as it works ;-) [08:19] yep [08:20] its all good [08:20] sweet! === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549F9D03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] LaserJock is http://picfu.com/s/107/706302624 a good emblem for MOTU-Science? [08:28] LaserJock, well i should not have celebrated so early... it did not build the -dev for some reason... odd but im lookin into that now! [08:28] hahaha [08:28] hello.. [08:29] and no issues that time! [08:29] hah [08:32] LaserJock http://zope.gnowledge.org:8080/science.png === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-217-078-207-6.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] G0SUB: well, since I'm a chemist I kinda like that emblem ;-) [08:41] LaserJock :) [08:41] G0SUB: can we use it? [08:41] LaserJock of course! [08:41] I took it from openclipart.org [08:42] LaserJock the 2nd link has the resized emblem [08:43] G0SUB: what about this one: http://openclipart.org/clipart//science/chemistry_flask_matthew__01.svg [08:43] LaserJock yeah, good too ... but I kinda like the test-tube beside ... [08:43] LaserJock both are equally good [08:43] netzmeister: Guten Abend === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] LaserJock: Hi ;-) [08:45] G0SUB: ok, I'll take to #launchpad about getting it as our emblem, thanks [08:46] LaserJock why do you have to talk to launchpad admins? [08:46] I don't think that was always there [08:47] oh, may be ... [08:47] LaserJock you need to scale it to 16x16 px ... that's MAX allowed [08:47] G0SUB: the 2nd link is ok, right? [08:48] LaserJock yes, if you choose that :) [08:48] netzmeister: Wie geht es dir? [08:48] G0SUB: looks, good to me. We can always change it if we don't like it ;-) [08:48] yep [08:49] it looks awesome [08:49] LaserJock: fine, thx. and you? === huats [n=Huats@huats.reponses.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [i=sivan@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] Mez: hi [09:41] lifeless, hey - sup? [09:41] you pinged me this morning [09:41] Mez: is there a breezy backport of bzr-dapper ? [09:41] lifeless: not that I know ow [09:41] of * [09:42] Mez: we'd love for there to be one [09:42] ;) [09:43] lifeless, I'm sure you would [09:43] however - at the moment [09:43] soyuz doesnt support backports [09:43] :( [09:45] ah [09:45] does that mean there are no backports for breezy anymore ? [09:45] lifeless I hope not ;) [09:46] just no new ones ? === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] oy...Looks like Riddell got another KDE convert [10:11] haha === kiko [n=kiko@201.14.111.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:11] hello there [10:11] lo [10:11] kiko :) [10:11] just wanted to check if people found launchpad any slower or faster today than usual === Kyral shrugs [10:11] In a way I have come full circle [10:12] Back when I started using Linux with Slack10 about 2-3 years ago I used KDE :P [10:12] kiko I see 2% performance boost [10:12] I like the precision, G0SUB [10:12] kiko hehe ... [10:12] we moved to a new database server [10:12] yes, I got the mail ... [10:12] it has gobs of memory [10:13] I gues you are moving to PG 8.1 soon too [10:13] we are indeed [10:13] kiko I hope launchpad will perform better under more load ... you won't see much difference with the same load in my opinion [10:17] I like the new bug listing format in LP [10:17] I'm happy to hear that [10:17] I think it's nice too [10:17] we're going to knock off the right column for wide pages and only have a left column [10:17] should reduce the stress with wrapping [10:17] although I would like to see a somewhat similar thing done to Pakcages [10:18] see you guys later ... it's bed time here [10:18] well [10:18] LaserJock, did you note that +packages now has somewhat more useful information? [10:18] yes [10:19] I will improve it further time allowing [10:19] but I only get about 4-5 packages /screen [10:21] for instance https://launchpad.net/people/slomo/+packages has a lot of scrolling [10:21] but at this point I just love having that info available [10:22] kiko: how hard would it to be to use xml-rpc on Malone? === Kyral [n=Chris@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] LaserJock, I'll reformat that list soon [10:25] LaserJock, it's not that much work but it's really not on the map yet === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] kiko: is there anything set up yet to do larger scale bug queries? I'd like to be able to get a list of bugs given a list of source packages [10:26] LaserJock, yeah, there's a search and filter spec being worked on [10:26] it needs sign-off but it would make what you want possible [10:27] kiko: and that would work for lists of source packages ~500 big? [10:27] mmmm [10:27] no it wouldn't [10:27] what are you trying to do? :-) === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] I lead a team of MOTUs that look after science related packages, we have a list of ~450 source packages. I want to be able to get a list of all the bugs. [10:29] an interesting use case [10:29] and I have no idea how to help you fix this [10:29] I think it will be a popular one here [10:29] we have lots of teams [10:29] hmmmm [10:30] not usually will as large a number of source packages but still === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] kiko: for instance, here is the list of MOTU Teams : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams [10:31] I'm sure each team would like to get a list of bugs given a set of source packages [10:31] LaserJock: You can subscribe to pkgs. On subscribtion you can add your e-mail or the one of the team you are a member === kiko_ [n=kiko@201.14.111.3] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] allee: that is a possibility but still requires us to form a list from emails. [10:32] allee: which isn't necessarily bad [10:32] LaserJock, that is easier to do because you can use the X-Launchpad-Bug header [10:32] other than that I'll ask you to email launchpad-users to describe your use case [10:32] sure, the MOTU are already using that header [10:33] but I think that large scale query would be a fairly popular use case === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] allee: but again that would require us to go through all the source packages and subscribe ourselves, doable for sure but not as nice as being able to query Malone. === kiko_ is now known as kiko [10:35] I'm just interested in the most efficient and effective way of getting bug listings for large numbers of source packages [10:35] LaserJock: But telling malone your list of 500 pkg each time you want to query is also not very handy ;) [10:36] allee: actually lucas made a script to do that, but it is verrry slow. Parsing each html file I believe === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] LaserJock, if you give me a list of source package names I can set a team up as an initial bug contact for them [10:36] kiko: well, that is an interesting point to me [10:36] I can fast-track it on the DBA === greenpenguin13 [n=joseph@user-2446.lns1-c7.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] kiko: the problem for me is that MOTU Science is sort of a subset of MOTU so while MOTU Science is particularly interested in these packages any MOTU can change them and the bug reports should still go to universe-bugs@l.u.c [10:39] so I'm not sure if MOTU Science should be the initial bug contact or if MOTU should, does that make sense? [10:39] LaserJock, when you say "change them" what do you mean? [10:40] kiko: sorry, I mean upload bug fixes, etc. [10:40] kiko: so while MOTU Science would like to have a list of bugs, etc. I don't think we should be taking away from MOTU [10:40] you don't need to take them away [10:40] you can be an additional bug contact. [10:41] ah, well that would be a bit more like what I'd like [10:41] kiko: is there something in the works to automatically assign bugs on Universe packages to MOTU? [10:41] well, you're in good hands [10:41] not exactly [10:41] it seems like I heard that somewhere [10:42] /all bugs/ on ubuntu have the Ubuntu bugs team subscribed to them initially === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:42] some source packages have bug contacts; their bugs have the correct bug contacts subscribed to them [10:42] so does the initial bug contact just mean you are automatically subscribed to any bug on that packages? [10:43] just to be clear [10:43] correct. [10:43] to any bug /filed/ on the specified package [10:43] it is not retroactive [10:43] and it is not implicit [10:43] ok [10:43] but we can subscribe the team to existing bugs [10:43] kiko: well, I've sort of done that already [10:43] I'm writing a FAQ entry for you [10:44] then it's cool [10:44] you just need to have the contacts updated for the packages you want [10:44] kiko: I actually went through every source package and looked for bugs :( [10:44] lots of clicking [10:44] yep ;-) [10:44] next time talk to me first :) [10:45] ok, so if I gave you a list of packages can you add motuscience to the initial bug contact? [10:51] yep [10:52] kiko: I was thinking that initial bug contact was for assigning by default not subscribing by default. That is why I didn't want to do that [10:52] there are no default assignees in malone [10:52] you need to assign people manually [10:52] good [10:52] it is in some ways a feature [10:52] but you need to get used to it [10:53] ok, so should I still email a use case to launchpad-users? [10:53] well [10:53] that depends. [10:53] do you want the use case fulfilled, or is having the IBC subscribed enough? [10:54] hmmm, I think it would eventually be nice to use xml-rpc to query large numbers of packages but I think the IBC + mailing list is a good solution [10:57] kiko: btw, thanks for all the help. LP is still quite mysterious to me ;-) [10:57] it's a bit of a mystery to us all, but we'll keep banging on it [10:57] thanks === netzmeister [n=netzmeis@p549F9D03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:59] netzmeister: gut, danke ;-) [10:59] hehe === saads [n=saads@toronto-HSE-ppp4194017.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Lure [n=luka@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] kiko: ok well, it might take me a bit to get the package list I want (I might weed out some) and then I'll email you, OK? [11:02] sure. [11:02] thanks, that should make my life a bit easier [11:10] LaserJock: Do you know a package where i can look how i can spilt a package?! [11:10] s/spilt/split === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@169.66.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:14] netzmeister, the debdiff between xscreensaver 4.23-4ubuntu3 and 4.23-4ubuntu4 [11:16] netzmeister: grass might also be a good example [11:17] ah, sad, ubuntu3 is gone from the archive already [11:17] ogra: yeah, seems like they go fast sometimes. that was a problem for MoM [11:17] well, we're at ubuntu 6.04 already, 3 is old news [11:18] thx ogra & LaserJock [11:18] LaserJock, the big problem for mom was the crash of snapshot.debian.net [11:18] kiko, ah, come on :) [11:18] 3 is never as old as it seems ... [11:24] what is "lintian-overrides"? [11:24] you can use it for weird lintian errors that are not solveable [11:25] ah okay.. [11:25] have a look at bibshelf, its a wonderful example (the best i've ever had) [11:25] for what? [11:25] splitting? [11:25] o see a linitan-override and in which cases you should use them [11:25] :) [11:25] s/o/to/ [11:26] okay.. [11:31] darn it, my stupid mac is trying to use both i386 and ppc gcc at the same time === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-106.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:33] are the binaries called *_i386-powerpc.deb then ? [11:35] no, but I keep getting "cputype (7, architecture i386) does not match cputype (18) for specified -arch flag: ppc (file not loaded)" === yosch [n=yosch@lns-bzn-55-82-255-167-40.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] morning [11:38] hi ajmitch [11:38] ajmitch! [11:41] kiko! [11:41] tseng! [11:41] tseng! [11:42] what would the world be without the motu [11:42] ogra: up late? [11:42] tseng, 23:42 ... [11:42] its not *that* late [11:42] i stop working at 5pm :D [11:42] you are still here [11:42] i'm just in a phase where i go to bed ~3 [11:46] kiko! haven't seen you around here for awhile [11:46] kiko was helping me out :-) [11:47] ah right [11:47] actually [11:47] I came in to ask if the site felt faster today === ajmitch hasn't checked it today [11:47] but nobody gave me much of an answer! :) [11:47] the main thing I noticed yesterday was a new bug listing, which is much improved [11:48] kiko: DB migration went ok? === hamilton [n=hamilton@12.146.23.101] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] kiko: any operation in particular? [11:49] kiko: its pretty resonponsive in general === ajmitch hasn't noticed much speedup, but is on a slow link in .au [11:50] and we know what they're like [11:50] ajmitch, yeah, it appears that it worked well === tseng falls over [11:50] the new server has more memory than the database takes up [11:51] for now [11:51] I imagine the DB will grow fairly quickly [11:51] kiko: could you put a filter in the model to disallow filing of stupid bugs? [11:51] bayesian [11:51] :P [11:51] 'i built muine from cvs, it doesnt work.' [11:52] heh [11:52] match anything that mentions /usr/local [11:52] that would trigger lots of false positives [11:52] "I did NOT install to /usr/local" boom [11:53] that's ok [11:53] it makes our job easier === ajmitch sees that most of my f-spot bugs are related to using sqlite2 instead of 3 [11:58] and I need to do another upload RSN to fix the dep === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu