[12:03] <Tonio_> hum.......
[12:04] <Lure> why would somebody strip last 8 characters of filename?
[12:04] <Tonio_> why ? "system:/" -> 8 digits
[12:05] <Lure> but at the end of string, not beginning
[12:05] <Tonio_> that to remove system:/ and reconstruct the real url
[12:05] <Tonio_> hum, ho yes, it is at the send...........;
[12:05] <Tonio_> the end
[12:05] <Lure> if you check beginning of the function, you see that directory + file are used
[12:06] <Tonio_> Lure: yes
[12:06] <Lure> then I would expect that file does not contain "system:/" at all
[12:07] <Lure> I do not understand this system:/ completely anyway, but this is strange as hell
[12:07] <Tonio_> Lure: I'm sik of seeing kde changing working things to crappy ones........
[12:13] <Lure> OK, 8 char are stripped, as they append ".desktop" before calling createEntry (statByName
[12:13] <Lure> 0
[12:14] <Lure> but I am concerned if filename has always ".desktop" at the end
[12:16] <Tonio_> hum, I must say am lost now ;)
[12:16] <Tonio_> my knowledge in c++ is nearby 0 ;)
[12:16] <Lure> there are two callers of createEntry
[12:17] <Lure> listRoot() and statByName
[12:17] <Tonio_> okay....
[12:17] <Lure> in statByName, just before createEntry you can see that name is checked for ".desktop" at the end
[12:18] <Tonio_> yes
[12:18] <Lure> this is what gets truncated in createEntry
[12:18] <Tonio_> hum
[12:18] <Lure> what I am not sure if this may not be the case in listRoot, where we have problem
[12:18] <Lure> and some real name chars are stripped...
[12:18] <Tonio_> yes okay, but is thatthe problem is due to listroot ?
[12:19] <Tonio_> hum........ okay
[12:19] <Lure> (or string is made emty if shorter than 8 char)
[12:19] <Tonio_> in my case, the entry is /home/tonio
[12:19] <Tonio_> remove 8 chars, and you should get /ho
[12:19] <Tonio_> right ?
[12:21] <Tonio_> cause it prompts me that it can't find the root for file:///home
[12:21] <Tonio_> not ho
[12:21] <Tonio_> but well, I'm completly lost I must say :)
[12:21] <Lure> yes, but you do not get full path in, but only name part (symbolic)
[12:21] <Lure> like "remote", "media"....
[12:22] <Tonio_> true
[12:22] <Tonio_> Lure: if you can correct my patch, or make one better, I'd be pleased, cause I must say I can't follow you there :)
[12:22] <Tonio_> I'm not a developper
[12:22] <Tonio_> I managed to do that little patch more by chance than because I know :)
[12:23] <Lure> it is strange it works nicely in one view, but ot in sidebar...
[12:23] <Tonio_> Lure: yes, that's why I didn't suspect the problem :)
[12:23] <Tonio_> Lure: it works nicely in kicker systemapplet too
[12:24] <Tonio_> which gives about the same than the sidebar
[12:25] <Lure> this is reallly strange!
[12:25] <Tonio_> Lure: yes ;)
[12:26] <Lure> Tonio_: you mean Kicker System Menu?
[12:26] <Tonio_> Lure: yes
[12:26] <Tonio_> I originally patched for this
[12:26] <Tonio_> cause this is used by dafault in kubuntu
[12:30] <Tonio_> Lure: I don't how difficult it'll be to mee, but I have to find ;)
[12:30] <Tonio_> and if you can help, you're more than welcome :)
[12:30] <Tonio_> allee: kdissert uploaded
[12:31] <allee> Tonio_: thx
[12:31] <Lure> Tonio_: since system:/users/<name> works, maybe we should redirect there
[12:31] <Lure> instead of /home/<name>
[12:31] <Tonio_> Lure: no
[12:31] <allee> raphink: [Pkg-kde-extras]  digikam_0.8.1-4_i386.changes ACCEPTED
[12:31] <Tonio_> because this is the problem
[12:31] <raphink> allee: in debian?
[12:31] <allee> raphink: so tomorrow I can ask for a sync from debian
[12:32] <Tonio_> Lure: when  redirecting to system:/users/name
[12:32] <raphink> allee: great :)
[12:32] <allee> yes
[12:32] <Tonio_> you will have the same issue
[12:32] <raphink> I can sync it for you when it's accepted allee
[12:32] <Tonio_> files opening by copying to tmp
[12:32] <Lure> you mean with Kaffeine and similar?
[12:32] <raphink> Lure: yep
[12:33] <Tonio_> Lure: yes
[12:33] <Tonio_> instead I would have let the original system:/home
[12:33] <raphink> Lure: kaffeine will kind of "download" the file to /tmp/
[12:33] <Tonio_> it does the job, but in an awfull way for the users ;)
[12:33] <Tonio_> raphink: not only kaffeine, but kate, and many other tools
[12:33] <raphink> Lure: so you get the download dialog and it takes more time to open
[12:33] <raphink> Tonio_: sure, just an example
[12:33] <allee> raphink: you mean from debian incoming queue?  Feel free ;)  latest in dapper is 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 so it's not clear from versionif it needs mergins
[12:34] <Riddell> q
[12:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: bad news, my patch causes an issue........ we don't understand why
[12:34] <raphink> allee: no I mean that I can sync it as soon as it's approved
[12:35] <Riddell> Tonio_: the system/home stuff?
[12:35] <allee> so should I prepare a UVF bug report or replay to siretart mail of MOTU to ask for sync?
[12:35] <allee> s/replay/reply/
[12:36] <allee> raphink: ^^
[12:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: yes
[12:36] <raphink> :)
[12:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: works very nicelly, but if you open filemanagement profile and play with the "system" part of the sidebar, you will see....
[12:37] <Tonio_> I searched but didn't understood what causes the problem
[12:37] <Tonio_> it is a pain to read a language you don't understand :)
[12:37] <Tonio_> like providing grammar correction to a russian texte ^^
[12:38] <raphink> ;)
[12:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: I will invertigate and find........ I want that to be clean for the release
[12:38] <raphink> Tonio_: you're not fluent in c++?
[12:39] <raphink> c++ : read, spoken, written
[12:40] <Tonio_> raphink: to compare, I would say my knowledge in C++ is the same level than my love for windows ME ;)
[12:40] <raphink> looool
[12:41] <Mez> hmm
[12:41] <raphink> Riddell: did you get my debdiff?
[12:41] <Mez> anyone here wanna test the latest copy of katapult ?
[12:42] <Lure> :n
[12:42] <Lure> (sorry that was supposed to be next file in vim ;-) )
[12:42] <Riddell> raphink: "Kopete MSN file transfer fix"?
[12:42] <raphink> yep Riddell
[12:42] <Riddell> Mez: sure
[12:43] <raphink> Riddell: I've found another bug with file transfer with MSN 8 now, but at least it works with MSN 7
[12:43] <Mez> Riddell: http://ubuntu.dev.sourceguru.net/katapult-uvf
[12:43] <raphink> these people from Redmond will get us crazy ;)
[12:45] <Mez> I'm too kind to our users
[12:45] <Riddell> http://kubuntu-live.blogspot.com/  nice :)
[12:47] <Riddell> Mez: that katapult starts up with a large blank icon
[12:47] <Riddell> oh, maybe that's my fault actually
[12:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: we tried a blogger yesterday with raphink, but it is really slow and has ads on it... but that blog design is beautifull :)
[12:48] <Mez> Riddell: really ?
[12:48] <Mez> Riddell: your fault how ?
[12:48] <raphink> Riddell: wordpress is much better than blogger, and open-source
[12:48] <Riddell> Mez: my icons themes are messed up at the moment, it's probably just me
[12:48] <Mez> Riddell - lemme see
[12:50] <toma> setting up a kubuntu planet?
[12:51] <Riddell> toma: no, but there's an idea for an official kubuntu blog so when a kubuntu devel adds something cool it can be blogged about there
[12:51] <Riddell> and picked up on planet
[12:51] <toma> ah oki
[12:52] <toma> cool
[01:00] <Lure> Tonio_: have to sleep now - will look tommorow again after work
[01:00] <Lure> :q
[01:01] <Tonio_> Lure: thanks ;)
[01:18] <Mez> Riddell, it's just you
[01:18] <Mez> icon's there for me
[01:19] <Mez> hmm
[01:19] <Mez> who here uses kopete and katapult?
[01:21] <Mez> or konversation and katapult
[01:21] <Mez> or both and katapult ;)
[01:22] <Tonio_> Mez: everything is fine with me
[01:22] <Mez> Tonio_, ... ?
[01:22] <Tonio_> katapult works nicelly
[01:22] <Mez> ah - well we may have another version soon
[01:22] <Mez> with another plugin
[01:22] <Tonio_> Mez: suggestion
[01:23] <Tonio_> why isn't the "tab" managed, like in shell ?
[01:23] <Mez> Tonio_, cause well...
[01:23] <Mez> er...
[01:23] <Mez> it will be
[01:23] <Mez> 0.4 ;)
[01:23] <Tonio_> okay ;)
[01:23] <Tonio_> that's my only regret with katapult actually
[01:23] <Mez> Tonio_, yeah I know :D
[01:24] <Mez> we're getting there though ;)
[01:24] <Mez> http://www.thekatapult.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Version_0.4
[01:24] <Mez> Tonio_, /query
[01:25] <Tonio_> Mez: there I am
[01:27] <raphink> Riddell: are you fine with kopete?
[01:37] <Tonio_> nite all
[01:52] <poningru> Riddell: can we get you a hackergotchi?
[03:05] <raphink> Tm_T: what are you building?
[03:05] <Tm_T> kicker and kdepim
[03:05] <raphink> ah
[03:05] <raphink> !
[03:05] <raphink> I'm building kdepim too
[03:06] <raphink> are you going to submit kdepim soon?
[03:06] <Tm_T> err, just compiling from svn to myself =)
[03:06] <raphink> ah ok
[03:06] <raphink> nm then
[03:06] <Tm_T> hehe
[03:06] <raphink> :p
[03:06] <raphink> I need kdepim to be rebuilt on top of fixed kdelibs
[03:07] <Tm_T> waiting Kopete 0.12 beta packages
[03:07] <raphink> so I'll have to request a build1 after I've released new kdelibs
[03:07] <raphink> kdepim is very long to build
[03:07] <Tm_T> nah
[03:07] <raphink> about 1 hour :(
[03:08] <Tm_T> atleast you don't do that daily =)
[03:08] <raphink> sure
[03:09] <Tm_T> I have been compiled amarok 3 times already today, it's 0409 here
[03:09] <crimsun> you really want to use ccache, then
[03:09] <Tm_T> what's that?
[03:09] <Tm_T> anyway, unsermake <3
[03:09] <crimsun> install it :)
[03:09] <raphink> :s :s :s
[03:11] <raphink> pbuilder gets an update from the apt servers before retriveing dependencies right?
[03:11] <raphink> :s
[03:11] <Tm_T> hmm, I'm wondering if that pbuilder is any usable to me
[03:11] <raphink> how do you mean Tm_T?
[03:12] <Tm_T> well, what it does?
[03:12] <raphink> it builds :)
[03:12] <Tm_T> build debian packages?
[03:12] <raphink> yep
[03:12] <raphink> using a minimal chroot
[03:12] <Tm_T> hmm
[03:12] <raphink> that is regenerated after each build
[03:12] <raphink> so you have a clean environment to build
[03:12] <raphink> basically 
[03:12] <raphink> a package that builds in a pbuilder will build on any platform virtually
[03:12] <Tm_T> maybe I should use it when I build next Kopete packages
[03:12] <raphink> I mean on any comp with the same distro
[03:12] <raphink> Tm_T: its' recommended to test in a pbuilder
[03:13] <raphink> even to build in a pbuilder
[03:13] <raphink> to assure you don't create packages based on your local config
[03:13] <Tm_T> I have to do one extra package for it though
[03:13] <raphink> what is that?
[03:13] <Tm_T> ortp 0.71
[03:13] <Tm_T> for Kopete 0.12 jingle support
[03:14] <raphink> hmm
[03:14] <raphink> there's ortp2 in dapper
[03:14] <Tm_T> too new
[03:14] <raphink> couldn't jingle be ported to it?
[03:14] <raphink> ortp was removed from debian/ubuntu iirc
[03:14] <Tm_T> aye
[03:14] <raphink> so it would be weird to reintroduce it
[03:14] <Tm_T> indeed
[03:15] <raphink> why would jingle devs (i.e. Google ?) base their stuff on an obsolete lib
[03:15] <raphink> ?
[03:15] <Tm_T> no idea?
[03:15] <Tm_T> :p
[03:16] <raphink> don't get me wrong
[03:16] <raphink> I'm not against voice support in jabber for kopete ;)
[03:16] <Tm_T> I know
[03:16] <raphink> or for jabber in kopete either
[03:17] <Tm_T> and that jingle-supported kopete will prolly sit in separate repository for those who feel lucky ;)
[03:17] <raphink> haha
[03:17] <raphink> I know a guy who is trying to get jingle in dapper too, for psi-jingle
[03:17] <Tm_T> it's not enabled by default because it's so "untested"
[03:17] <raphink> you should talk to him
[03:17] <Tm_T> heh
[03:17] <raphink> I tried to package libjingle for dapper but missed ortp 
[03:18] <Tm_T> actually Kopete's jingle support is based on psi's library =)
[03:18] <Tm_T> iirc
[03:18] <raphink> I tried to hack the lib depends in configure but it didn't work
[03:18] <raphink> lol
[03:18] <raphink> heh, never know ;)
[03:18] <Tm_T> yeah, libjingle doesn't compile or even configure any other ortp version than 0.71
[03:19] <raphink> yes
[03:19] <raphink> hmm
[03:19] <raphink> should check ortp history in debian/ubuntu
[03:19] <raphink> iirc it was removed but I'm not very very sure
[03:19] <Tm_T> ay ay, caramba!
[03:19] <raphink> anyway I think reintroducing it if it's the only way to have voice support in IM wouldn't be much of a problem
[03:20] <Tm_T> so hungry, so tired...
[03:20] <raphink> :(
[03:20] <raphink> I'm tired but not hungry
[03:20] <Tm_T> bah, fooood ->
[03:20] <raphink> I hate too much
[03:20] <Tm_T> I hate you too
[03:20] <Tm_T> glad we hate same person
[03:20] <Tm_T> ;)
[03:20] <Tm_T> -->>
[03:21] <raphink> hehe :p
[03:21] <raphink> :p :p
[03:21] <raphink> packages.debian.org is back
[03:21] <raphink> brand new, with a brand new red and blue css 
[07:56] <Mez> ah shame it wasnt anything cool :D
[07:56] <Mez> fancy coding some stuff for katapult Hobbsee ?
[07:56] <Mez> crimsun - you're a silver supporter now ?
[07:56] <Hobbsee> haha - would i have the skills to?
[07:56] <Mez> is that like a silver surfer?
[07:56] <Mez> Hobbsee, I dunno
[07:56] <Mez> I dunno what your skills are
[07:56] <crimsun> Mez: I've been for ~2 years
[07:57] <Hobbsee> ask me in around 6 months lol
[07:57] <Mez> Hobbsee, just learning ?
[07:57] <Hobbsee> we discovered how to use cin and variables today hehe
[07:57] <Hobbsee> Mez: yeah
[07:57] <Mez> Hobbsee - hand in katapult as you're coursework ;)
[07:57] <Mez> lol
[07:57] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:57] <Mez> (no - dont - it'd be sorta against GPL I think)
[07:58] <Hobbsee> automarker would pick it up anyway
[07:58] <Mez> Hobbsee, how so
[07:58] <Hobbsee> checks the .cpp against stuff from the net, and other people's assignments
[07:58] <Mez>  It'd be random if it know about katapult ;)
[07:58] <Hobbsee> true
[07:59] <Mez> you could always write a plugin as an assignment :-"
[07:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:59] <Mez> snidy way of getting people to code for it
[08:05] <Hobbsee> true
[09:57] <Riddell> raphink: not yet looked at kopete
[09:57] <Riddell> poningru: I have one (see launchpad)
[10:00] <Tonio_> hello
[10:08] <amu> Riddell: i cant send your /msg's :) 
[10:09] <Riddell> doh
[10:09] <Riddell> now identified
[10:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: hi
[10:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: are you fine with the latest konq settings in waiting or upoad k-d-s ?
[10:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: I set that it has to auto search for new plugins and use artsdsp with them, to allow automatic recognition and working flash, java etc...
[10:28] <mornfall> hola
[10:28] <mornfall> i'm becoming slightly nervous -- no useful bug reports for adept since 1.90
[10:30] <mornfall> it doesn't crash for you people?
[10:32] <Tonio_> allee: ping ?
[10:32] <allee> Tonio_: pong!
[10:32] <Tonio_> allee: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117524 ;)
[10:32] <Tonio_> allee: I know you will take pleasure to vote for this :)
[10:33] <Tonio_> mornfall: quite stable for me, just one crasha few days ago
[10:35] <Tonio_> allee: I'm still wondering "why did they do that stupid thing", especially to something that was working about the perfection
[10:36] <allee> Tonio_: you're right. added my vote!
[10:37] <allee> Tonio_: about the why, I don't know.  Maybe JRe or ervin on #solid?
[10:38] <Tonio_> allee: well in fact I don't want to know the reason, it'll make me nervous I think ^^
[10:40] <allee> Tonio_: ah, that's the reason why you are not no cc list of the bug :)
[10:42] <Tonio_> allee: "no cc" ? sorry but I don't understand
[10:43] <mornfall> Tonio_: interesting
[10:43] <allee> Tonio_: you can add your e-mail to cc field of a bug report. then you receive all status changes or added comments of this bug
[10:44] <mornfall> well, i can do my own testing session
[10:44] <Tonio_> allee: I added a comment, that's enough ;)
[10:44] <mornfall> if i can't crash it, it'll be beta == final ;-)
[10:44] <Tonio_> mornfall: cool
[10:46] <mornfall> i get few breezy bugreports and some wishes
[10:46] <mornfall> last time there were crash reports was 1.89 i think
[10:55] <Tonio_> allee: I also voted, so I no need of cc to receive changes ;)
[11:38] <Mez> Riddell: ping
[12:44] <Riddell> Mez: hi
[01:04] <Hobbsee> hehe!  so my message to kubuntu-devel did work - it was just slow!
[01:06] <allee> CC meeting
[01:07] <Riddell> any kubuntu people up for anything at cc meeting?
[01:10] <allee> Riddell: me applying for membership
[01:10] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'll be there to support our allee ;)
[01:10] <allee> :)
[01:11] <allee> Hobbsee: don't laugh, please :)
[01:11] <Hobbsee> sorry...
[01:11] <allee> heh, heh :)
[01:12] <allee> Hobbsee: I like the CC members.  They also tend to be too late.  Like me usually :)
[01:12] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:16] <Riddell> ping me when allee is up
[01:16] <allee> 'k
[01:17] <freeflying> Riddell: I have something about ubuntu locoteam 
[01:27] <Hobbsee> heh.  i see that what i said got ignored in the CC meeting
[01:28] <freeflying> Hobbsee: what
[01:29] <Hobbsee> freeflying: *shrugs* - they were talkign about ops, and people in australia, and i just mentioned that I could probably do it, and am in australia
[01:29] <freeflying> Hobbsee: pke Kamion
[01:29] <Hobbsee> pke?
[01:30] <freeflying> Hobbsee: poke
[01:30] <freeflying> Hobbsee:  :)
[01:30] <Hobbsee> ah :P
[01:37] <raphink> toma_: ping
[01:46] <Riddell> mornfall: is the "proprietry software" box in adept-installer for multiverse?
[01:46] <Riddell> I can't get e.g. acrobat to show up
[01:49] <mornfall> Riddell: yes (multiverse)
[01:49] <mornfall> anyhow, gotta run
[01:49] <mornfall> be back tonight
[01:50] <Riddell> I didn't have multiverse enabled in sources.list was the problem
[01:52] <raphink> the big patch doesn't fix the kontact bug :(
[01:52] <raphink> Riddell: had the look at kopete ?
[01:54] <ubijtsa2> andred: ping
[02:16] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ping
[02:16] <allee> Riddell, raphink, Tonio_, Hobbsee: allee is up  at CC
[02:16] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:16] <raphink> allee: I'm there already ;)
[02:16] <Tonio_> hehe :)
[02:16] <Hobbsee> ditto
[02:17] <freeflying> Hobbsee: congrats
[02:17] <Hobbsee> freeflying: thanks :)
[02:17] <Hobbsee> doesnt really make sense for me not to be an op there, if i'm already on the other ones...
[02:17] <Hobbsee> ping?
[02:18] <Hobbsee> ah, good :) 
[02:29] <Hobbsee> congratulations allee 
[02:30] <freeflying> kubuntu-team has oe more member now 
[02:30] <Hobbsee> you can join kubuntu-team wihtout being part of ubuntu-team, you know
[02:30] <allee> yeah!  That was quick.  Not one question!   I like time pressure to finish a meeting :)
[02:31] <Hobbsee> hehe!
[02:31] <Hobbsee> yeah, far less nerve wracking!
[02:31] <allee> freeflying: I'm already on kubuntu-team 
[02:31] <Hobbsee> and no sorush20!
[02:31] <freeflying> allee: I mean ubuntu member,  :)
[02:34] <allee> raphink, Tonio_ freeflying and Hobbsee-not-here:  Thx for the gentle word and support!
[02:35] <raphink> allee: congrats :)
[02:35] <Tonio_> allee: that's the minimum we could be
[02:35] <Tonio_> allee: next step -> MOTU
[02:35] <freeflying> allee: -->MOTu
[02:36] <allee> I'll check MOTU requiremnet ... but first:
[02:36] <allee> bbl
[02:41] <andred> ubijtsa2: pong
[02:42] <ubijtsa2> andred: hi there.. you were the one with kopete yes? :)
[02:42] <andred> ubijtsa2: yes
[02:42] <ubijtsa2> is there a way to get it to stop popping up the requester about vcards ?
[02:43] <andred> ubijtsa2: huh? don't know what you mean
[02:43] <ubijtsa2> I might be able to make a screen-shot
[02:46] <ubijtsa2> one sec, got to stick it on a webpage
[02:46] <andred> ok
[02:48] <ubijtsa2> andred: http://lenin.trudheim.com/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Trudheim/MiscStuff
[02:49] <ubijtsa2> I get loads of them.. for some reason
[02:49] <raphink> toma_: the patch in kdelibs for kontact doesn't work 
[02:49] <andred> ubijtsa2: ah. i don't know a solution but i read a bug report about it. one second...
[02:50] <ubijtsa2> andred: many thanks :)
[02:50] <andred> ubijtsa2: you might want to watch this: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123216
[02:50] <ubijtsa2> looking
[02:51] <ubijtsa2> that's the one.. if a contact comes online, that requester pops up
[02:59] <ubijtsa2> andred: I wonder if it has something to do with the 'global profile'
[03:00] <andred> ubijtsa2: no idea, i don't have time to investigate further atm, sorry
[03:01] <ubijtsa2> np
[03:01] <ubijtsa2> just wondered if you knew :)
[03:08] <Tm_T> allee: YAY!
[03:08] <Riddell> I completely missed allee at CC :(
[03:08] <Riddell> but seems like he got in anyway :)
[03:08] <Tm_T> :)
[03:08] <allee> Tm_T: Thx
[03:09] <allee> Riddell: Long meeting and time pressure was on my side :)
[03:10] <Riddell> meeting is still going on I seee
[03:10] <allee> I expected some further question but there was none
[03:11] <crimsun> you'll get the grill when you apply for MOTU ;)
[03:11] <Tonio_> allee: wasn't necessary for sure :)
[03:11] <Tonio_> crimsun: hehe, possible indeed
[03:11] <allee> crimsun: sounds like fun :)
[03:19] <Tm_T> #1
[03:19] <Tm_T> hmm
[03:19] <Tm_T> bug #1
[03:19] <Ubugtu> malone bug 1 in Ubuntu Dapper "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[03:19] <Tm_T> ah
[03:22] <amu> Its offical Windows boots on a macbook : http://www.mathcaddy.com/windowsxpbootsonamac%21%21%21%211/
[03:36] <tvo> hm I can't get kdeaddons to build here, anyone a clue? http://rafb.net/paste/results/FTHZm733.html
[03:46] <tvo> nm, removing unsermake seems to solve it
[03:46] <Riddell> tvo: do you have unsermake installed?
[03:46] <Riddell> ah :)
[03:46] <tvo> I had ;-)
[03:48] <tvo> Riddell: what's the preferred from you want a new googlebar patch in? debdiff on kdeaddons, just the patch, or something else?
[03:48] <tvo> s/from/form/
[03:49] <Riddell> debdiff or an edited version of the patch we current have are both good
[03:50] <tvo> and is it possible to add the offline icons of wikipedia, dmoz, etc. (default search engines) to the package?
[03:50] <tvo> (assuming they aren't in it yet, have to check..)
[03:51] <tvo> they aren't
[03:52] <Riddell> sure, if you do it, I don't have time just now
[03:54] <tvo> I'll see :-) seems it would require a new orig tarball (because of binary files) and that would require an UVF exception, right?
[03:54] <tvo> that's why I asked
[03:55] <Riddell> you can uuencode them
[03:55] <Riddell> see kdebase
[03:55] <tvo> ok
[04:31] <raphink> Riddell: ping
[04:35] <Riddell> raphink: hi
[04:35] <raphink> :)
[04:35] <raphink> Riddell: would you have some time for the kopete fix please ? :)
[04:37] <Riddell> is it urgent?
[04:40] <raphink> no :)
[04:57] <freeflying> Riddell: ping
[04:58] <Riddell> freeflying: hi
[04:58] <freeflying> Riddell: we now have a localised kubuntu livecd 
[04:58] <freeflying> Riddell: based upon dapper
[04:59] <freeflying> Riddell: http://ftp.ubuntu.org.cn
[05:00] <freeflying> nite all
[06:25] <Riddell> mornfall: mark says adept is looking lovely
[06:26] <Riddell> mornfall: some smallish things he wants changed
[06:26] <Mez> Riddell: did you ge tmy email
[06:26] <Riddell> mornfall: also mvo was wondering if adept had non-interactive installation
[06:26] <Riddell> Mez: don't think so
[06:26] <Riddell> which one?
[06:27] <Mez> Regarding UVF for katapul;t
[06:27] <robotgeek> Riddell: did you get mdke's email regarding xincludes?
[06:28] <Riddell> robotgeek: yes I think so, haven't looked at it yet
[06:28] <robotgeek> Riddell: okay, cool. http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide-web/C/index.html bling with xsltproc
[06:29] <Riddell> oh, wonder why he used xsltproc
[06:29] <robotgeek> Riddell: so that we can have common build methods for all ubuntu documentation, atleast for web
[06:36] <Riddell> Mez: uploaded
[06:42] <jjesse_lunch> if you don't have an email from mkde then i forwared it on to you as well so it might come from me
[09:16] <Tonio_> allee: ping ?
[09:16] <allee> Tonio_: pong
[09:35] <mornfall> Riddell: interesting
[09:36] <mornfall> Riddell: i disagree about the splitter though
[09:36] <mornfall> Riddell: as for mvo, is that dapper+1 material?
[09:37] <mornfall> <-- no idea what ubuntu dist upgrader is either
[09:37] <mornfall> but don't count on doing much with konsole/python
[10:15] <_Sime> Tonio_: I just added that extra DPI config file option to guidance, BTW.
[10:26] <Tonio_> _Sime: very nice ;)
[10:26] <Tonio_> _Sime: will be able to change the xft_dpi on the fly so ?
[10:27] <_Sime> Tonio_: is happens only at login. There is no GUI for it.
[10:27] <Tonio_> allee: sorry for having gone away... raphink discussed with a kontact dev, and we have a patch for the contacts deleted on close ;)
[10:28] <Tonio_> _Sime: ah ok, but how were the dpi forced actually ?
[10:28] <allee> Tonio_: I've seen a new simple patch added to this bug.  Looks pretty simple this time :)
[10:29] <_Sime> Tonio_: The DPI is set during the login process.
[10:30] <Tonio_> allee: yes, 4 lines patch ;) raphink is gonna implement it
[10:30] <Tonio_> _Sime: okay, but (i'm a bit lost hehe), what did you just changed ? wasn't that already done ?
[10:31] <Tonio_> sory but I'm between 10 things and I must say I don't follow you ^^
[10:31] <Tonio_> DPIs are set for at least a month no ?
[10:31] <_Sime> Tonio_: DPIs have been set for about 2weeks in dapper.
[10:31] <allee> Tonio_: up to know:  dpi 75 - 110 -> Xft.dpi = 96; 110-140 -> Xftp.dpi = 120; > 140 -> Xft.dpi = <actaul resolution>
[10:32] <_Sime> yes, that is what happens.
[10:32] <allee> Tonio_: If someone with 139 dpi with like to use the true dpi, there was no way to configure it
[10:32] <allee> Tonio_: AFAIU _Sime, this is not fixed :)
[10:32] <_Sime> there is now the possibility to stop this behaviour.
[10:32] <Tonio_> ah okay ;)
[10:33] <Tonio_> sorry but my brain wasn't on that chan hehe, only mu hands :)
[10:33] <_Sime> you can now set it / or turn if off, by adding a line to ~/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc
[10:33] <Tonio_> _Sime: that's very nice ;)
[10:34] <_Sime> but there is no GUI for that option, but it is still there for those who _really_ want it.
[10:34] <Tonio_> _Sime: that cool :)
[10:34] <Tonio_> _Sime: just a little question cause I'm just playing with the "Display" guidance tool
[10:35] <Tonio_> is that normal that resolution doesn't work for me ?
[10:35] <_Sime> what do you mean?
[10:35] <Tonio_> I can't change the resolution
[10:35] <Tonio_> and the min/max doesn't feet my xorg settings
[10:37] <Tonio_> maybe that's know, I don't, know, I must I didn't follow the guidance developpment advancement those last weeks :)
[10:38] <_Sime> firstly, specify a decent monitor, click apply and maybe restart X, then see if that helps.
[10:38] <Tonio_> _Sime: the monitor in my xorg settings is the good one
[10:40] <Tonio_> _Sime: ah okay, that needs to be configured first !
[10:40] <_Sime> Tonio_: yeah, and it will write out a better xorg.conf file.
[10:42] <Tonio_> _Sime: that's nice
[10:43] <Tonio_> _Sime: if my screen isn't in the list, is there a way to add it ?
[10:43] <Tonio_> cause xorg detects the correct value by default, but I can't find it with guidance
[10:49] <_Sime> Tonio_: or choose a generic monitor that matches yours.
[10:51] <Tonio_> _Sime: I did, but while clicking the "test" button, I get an error message, but the xorg error isn't specified...
[10:51] <Tonio_> _Sime: apart from that, the GUI is nice, very simple
[10:56] <_Sime> Tonio_: it isn't strictly neccessary to test the config.
[10:57] <Tonio_> _Sime: I know, I'm testing to see what happens, but I don't managed to get the configuration written....
[10:58] <Tonio_> _Sime: new worg.conf isn't writtent when I apply changes
[10:59] <Tonio_> and even if I have the nvidia driver installed, I can't select it.
[11:00] <Tonio_> maybe that a problem on my config only, dunno ;)
[11:07] <_Sime> I'll have to test it on dapper with nvidia. ;-)
[11:15] <_Sime> Tonio_: if you run it from the shell using "kdesu displayconfig" are any error messages printed?
[11:18] <Tm_T> I contacted to debian maintainers about Kopete 0.12 packages, let's see if I get any answers
[11:24] <Tonio_> _Sime: testing
[11:27] <Tonio_> _Sime: http://pastebin.com/589837
[11:27] <Tonio_> here is the output....
[11:42] <_Sime> Tonio_: looks ok. are you sure that 'apply' didn't update /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[11:44] <Tonio_> _sime : -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10124 2006-03-07 23:43 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:44] <Tonio_> _Sime: certain ;)
[11:45] <Tonio_> I can see it has been touch, but the content is untouched
[11:46] <_Sime> Tonio_: are there also xorg.conf.[0-9] + files in /etc/X11/ ?
[11:46] <Tonio_> _Sime: yes, from .1 to .4
[11:47] <Tonio_> _Sime: in fact I have now 4 monitor sections in xorg.conf
[11:47] <Tonio_> didn't look lower, parameters are writtent, but not replacing the actual ones, they are writtent after
[11:47] <_Sime> Tonio_: stuff it in the pastebin.
[11:47] <Tonio_> _Sime: sure
[11:48] <Tonio_> _Sime: http://pastebin.com/589884
[11:48] <Tonio_> here is the full worg.conf file
[11:48] <Tonio_> s/w/x
[11:50] <_Sime> looks like xorg.conf grows each time you update it...
[11:50] <Tonio_> _Sime: exactly
[11:50] <Tonio_> that's the reason parameters are never set
[11:50] <_Sime> AGP?
[11:51] <Tonio_> yes
[11:51] <Tonio_> _Sime: in fact I didn't look at the botom cause using VI and looked the same upper, sorry for the bad informations :)
[11:57] <_Sime> Tonio_: what is your email address?
[12:02] <Tonio_> _Sime: tonio@ubuntu.com