[12:03] hum....... [12:04] why would somebody strip last 8 characters of filename? [12:04] why ? "system:/" -> 8 digits [12:05] but at the end of string, not beginning [12:05] that to remove system:/ and reconstruct the real url [12:05] hum, ho yes, it is at the send...........; [12:05] the end [12:05] if you check beginning of the function, you see that directory + file are used [12:06] Lure: yes [12:06] then I would expect that file does not contain "system:/" at all [12:07] I do not understand this system:/ completely anyway, but this is strange as hell [12:07] Lure: I'm sik of seeing kde changing working things to crappy ones........ [12:13] OK, 8 char are stripped, as they append ".desktop" before calling createEntry (statByName [12:13] 0 [12:14] but I am concerned if filename has always ".desktop" at the end [12:16] hum, I must say am lost now ;) [12:16] my knowledge in c++ is nearby 0 ;) [12:16] there are two callers of createEntry [12:17] listRoot() and statByName [12:17] okay.... [12:17] in statByName, just before createEntry you can see that name is checked for ".desktop" at the end [12:18] yes [12:18] this is what gets truncated in createEntry [12:18] hum [12:18] what I am not sure if this may not be the case in listRoot, where we have problem [12:18] and some real name chars are stripped... [12:18] yes okay, but is thatthe problem is due to listroot ? [12:19] hum........ okay [12:19] (or string is made emty if shorter than 8 char) [12:19] in my case, the entry is /home/tonio [12:19] remove 8 chars, and you should get /ho [12:19] right ? [12:21] cause it prompts me that it can't find the root for file:///home [12:21] not ho [12:21] but well, I'm completly lost I must say :) [12:21] yes, but you do not get full path in, but only name part (symbolic) [12:21] like "remote", "media".... [12:22] true [12:22] Lure: if you can correct my patch, or make one better, I'd be pleased, cause I must say I can't follow you there :) [12:22] I'm not a developper [12:22] I managed to do that little patch more by chance than because I know :) [12:23] it is strange it works nicely in one view, but ot in sidebar... [12:23] Lure: yes, that's why I didn't suspect the problem :) [12:23] Lure: it works nicely in kicker systemapplet too [12:24] which gives about the same than the sidebar [12:25] this is reallly strange! [12:25] Lure: yes ;) [12:26] Tonio_: you mean Kicker System Menu? [12:26] Lure: yes [12:26] I originally patched for this [12:26] cause this is used by dafault in kubuntu [12:30] Lure: I don't how difficult it'll be to mee, but I have to find ;) [12:30] and if you can help, you're more than welcome :) [12:30] allee: kdissert uploaded [12:31] Tonio_: thx [12:31] Tonio_: since system:/users/ works, maybe we should redirect there [12:31] instead of /home/ [12:31] Lure: no [12:31] raphink: [Pkg-kde-extras] digikam_0.8.1-4_i386.changes ACCEPTED [12:31] because this is the problem [12:31] allee: in debian? [12:31] raphink: so tomorrow I can ask for a sync from debian [12:32] Lure: when redirecting to system:/users/name [12:32] allee: great :) [12:32] yes [12:32] you will have the same issue [12:32] I can sync it for you when it's accepted allee [12:32] files opening by copying to tmp [12:32] you mean with Kaffeine and similar? [12:32] Lure: yep [12:33] Lure: yes [12:33] instead I would have let the original system:/home [12:33] Lure: kaffeine will kind of "download" the file to /tmp/ [12:33] it does the job, but in an awfull way for the users ;) [12:33] raphink: not only kaffeine, but kate, and many other tools [12:33] Lure: so you get the download dialog and it takes more time to open [12:33] Tonio_: sure, just an example [12:33] raphink: you mean from debian incoming queue? Feel free ;) latest in dapper is 0.8.1-0ubuntu1 so it's not clear from versionif it needs mergins [12:34] q [12:34] Riddell: bad news, my patch causes an issue........ we don't understand why [12:34] allee: no I mean that I can sync it as soon as it's approved [12:35] Tonio_: the system/home stuff? [12:35] so should I prepare a UVF bug report or replay to siretart mail of MOTU to ask for sync? [12:35] s/replay/reply/ [12:36] raphink: ^^ [12:36] Riddell: yes [12:36] :) [12:36] Riddell: works very nicelly, but if you open filemanagement profile and play with the "system" part of the sidebar, you will see.... [12:37] I searched but didn't understood what causes the problem [12:37] it is a pain to read a language you don't understand :) [12:37] like providing grammar correction to a russian texte ^^ [12:38] ;) [12:38] Riddell: I will invertigate and find........ I want that to be clean for the release [12:38] Tonio_: you're not fluent in c++? [12:39] c++ : read, spoken, written [12:40] raphink: to compare, I would say my knowledge in C++ is the same level than my love for windows ME ;) [12:40] looool [12:41] hmm [12:41] Riddell: did you get my debdiff? [12:41] anyone here wanna test the latest copy of katapult ? [12:42] :n [12:42] (sorry that was supposed to be next file in vim ;-) ) [12:42] raphink: "Kopete MSN file transfer fix"? [12:42] yep Riddell [12:42] Mez: sure [12:43] Riddell: I've found another bug with file transfer with MSN 8 now, but at least it works with MSN 7 [12:43] Riddell: http://ubuntu.dev.sourceguru.net/katapult-uvf [12:43] these people from Redmond will get us crazy ;) [12:45] I'm too kind to our users [12:45] http://kubuntu-live.blogspot.com/ nice :) [12:47] Mez: that katapult starts up with a large blank icon [12:47] oh, maybe that's my fault actually [12:47] Riddell: we tried a blogger yesterday with raphink, but it is really slow and has ads on it... but that blog design is beautifull :) [12:48] Riddell: really ? [12:48] Riddell: your fault how ? [12:48] Riddell: wordpress is much better than blogger, and open-source [12:48] Mez: my icons themes are messed up at the moment, it's probably just me [12:48] Riddell - lemme see [12:50] setting up a kubuntu planet? [12:51] toma: no, but there's an idea for an official kubuntu blog so when a kubuntu devel adds something cool it can be blogged about there [12:51] and picked up on planet [12:51] ah oki [12:52] cool [01:00] Tonio_: have to sleep now - will look tommorow again after work [01:00] :q [01:01] Lure: thanks ;) === toma is now known as toma_ [01:18] Riddell, it's just you [01:18] icon's there for me [01:19] hmm [01:19] who here uses kopete and katapult? [01:21] or konversation and katapult [01:21] or both and katapult ;) [01:22] Mez: everything is fine with me [01:22] Tonio_, ... ? [01:22] katapult works nicelly [01:22] ah - well we may have another version soon [01:22] with another plugin [01:22] Mez: suggestion [01:23] why isn't the "tab" managed, like in shell ? [01:23] Tonio_, cause well... [01:23] er... [01:23] it will be [01:23] 0.4 ;) [01:23] okay ;) [01:23] that's my only regret with katapult actually [01:23] Tonio_, yeah I know :D [01:24] we're getting there though ;) [01:24] http://www.thekatapult.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Version_0.4 [01:24] Tonio_, /query [01:25] Mez: there I am [01:27] Riddell: are you fine with kopete? [01:37] nite all [01:52] Riddell: can we get you a hackergotchi? === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T is just compiling, compiling,compiling... === raphink is also compiling, compiling, compiling... [03:05] Tm_T: what are you building? [03:05] kicker and kdepim [03:05] ah [03:05] ! [03:05] I'm building kdepim too [03:06] are you going to submit kdepim soon? [03:06] err, just compiling from svn to myself =) [03:06] ah ok [03:06] nm then [03:06] hehe [03:06] :p [03:06] I need kdepim to be rebuilt on top of fixed kdelibs [03:07] waiting Kopete 0.12 beta packages [03:07] so I'll have to request a build1 after I've released new kdelibs [03:07] kdepim is very long to build [03:07] nah [03:07] about 1 hour :( === raphink really hopes kontact will work after this rebuild [03:08] atleast you don't do that daily =) [03:08] sure [03:09] I have been compiled amarok 3 times already today, it's 0409 here [03:09] you really want to use ccache, then [03:09] what's that? [03:09] anyway, unsermake <3 [03:09] install it :) === raphink is wondering if he has updated his pbuilder before rebuilding kdepim [03:09] :s :s :s [03:11] pbuilder gets an update from the apt servers before retriveing dependencies right? [03:11] :s [03:11] hmm, I'm wondering if that pbuilder is any usable to me [03:11] how do you mean Tm_T? [03:12] well, what it does? [03:12] it builds :) [03:12] build debian packages? [03:12] yep [03:12] using a minimal chroot [03:12] hmm [03:12] that is regenerated after each build [03:12] so you have a clean environment to build [03:12] basically [03:12] a package that builds in a pbuilder will build on any platform virtually [03:12] maybe I should use it when I build next Kopete packages [03:12] I mean on any comp with the same distro [03:12] Tm_T: its' recommended to test in a pbuilder [03:13] even to build in a pbuilder [03:13] to assure you don't create packages based on your local config [03:13] I have to do one extra package for it though [03:13] what is that? [03:13] ortp 0.71 [03:13] for Kopete 0.12 jingle support [03:14] hmm [03:14] there's ortp2 in dapper [03:14] too new [03:14] couldn't jingle be ported to it? [03:14] ortp was removed from debian/ubuntu iirc [03:14] aye [03:14] so it would be weird to reintroduce it [03:14] indeed [03:15] why would jingle devs (i.e. Google ?) base their stuff on an obsolete lib [03:15] ? [03:15] no idea? === raphink sings : jingle devs, jingle devs, jingle all the way [03:15] :p [03:16] don't get me wrong [03:16] I'm not against voice support in jabber for kopete ;) [03:16] I know [03:16] or for jabber in kopete either [03:17] and that jingle-supported kopete will prolly sit in separate repository for those who feel lucky ;) === raphink is being weird after 3AM [03:17] haha [03:17] I know a guy who is trying to get jingle in dapper too, for psi-jingle [03:17] it's not enabled by default because it's so "untested" [03:17] you should talk to him [03:17] heh [03:17] I tried to package libjingle for dapper but missed ortp [03:18] actually Kopete's jingle support is based on psi's library =) [03:18] iirc [03:18] I tried to hack the lib depends in configure but it didn't work [03:18] lol [03:18] heh, never know ;) [03:18] yeah, libjingle doesn't compile or even configure any other ortp version than 0.71 [03:19] yes [03:19] hmm [03:19] should check ortp history in debian/ubuntu [03:19] iirc it was removed but I'm not very very sure [03:19] ay ay, caramba! [03:19] anyway I think reintroducing it if it's the only way to have voice support in IM wouldn't be much of a problem [03:20] so hungry, so tired... [03:20] :( [03:20] I'm tired but not hungry [03:20] bah, fooood -> [03:20] I hate too much [03:20] I hate you too [03:20] glad we hate same person [03:20] ;) [03:20] -->> [03:21] hehe :p [03:21] :p :p [03:21] packages.debian.org is back [03:21] brand new, with a brand new red and blue css === Mez wonders where his snickers flapjack went === robotgeek [n=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_away [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying-ibook [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_away [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.177] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:56] ah shame it wasnt anything cool :D [07:56] fancy coding some stuff for katapult Hobbsee ? [07:56] crimsun - you're a silver supporter now ? [07:56] haha - would i have the skills to? [07:56] is that like a silver surfer? [07:56] Hobbsee, I dunno [07:56] I dunno what your skills are [07:56] Mez: I've been for ~2 years === Hobbsee doubts it [07:57] ask me in around 6 months lol [07:57] Hobbsee, just learning ? [07:57] we discovered how to use cin and variables today hehe [07:57] Mez: yeah [07:57] Hobbsee - hand in katapult as you're coursework ;) [07:57] lol [07:57] hehe [07:57] (no - dont - it'd be sorta against GPL I think) [07:58] automarker would pick it up anyway [07:58] Hobbsee, how so [07:58] checks the .cpp against stuff from the net, and other people's assignments [07:58] It'd be random if it know about katapult ;) [07:58] true [07:59] you could always write a plugin as an assignment :-" [07:59] hehe [07:59] snidy way of getting people to code for it [08:05] true === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:57] raphink: not yet looked at kopete [09:57] poningru: I have one (see launchpad) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:00] hello [10:08] Riddell: i cant send your /msg's :) [10:09] doh [10:09] now identified [10:18] Riddell: hi [10:18] Riddell: are you fine with the latest konq settings in waiting or upoad k-d-s ? [10:18] Riddell: I set that it has to auto search for new plugins and use artsdsp with them, to allow automatic recognition and working flash, java etc... === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:28] hola [10:28] i'm becoming slightly nervous -- no useful bug reports for adept since 1.90 [10:30] it doesn't crash for you people? [10:32] allee: ping ? [10:32] Tonio_: pong! [10:32] allee: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117524 ;) [10:32] allee: I know you will take pleasure to vote for this :) [10:33] mornfall: quite stable for me, just one crasha few days ago [10:35] allee: I'm still wondering "why did they do that stupid thing", especially to something that was working about the perfection [10:36] Tonio_: you're right. added my vote! [10:37] Tonio_: about the why, I don't know. Maybe JRe or ervin on #solid? [10:38] allee: well in fact I don't want to know the reason, it'll make me nervous I think ^^ [10:40] Tonio_: ah, that's the reason why you are not no cc list of the bug :) [10:42] allee: "no cc" ? sorry but I don't understand [10:43] Tonio_: interesting [10:43] Tonio_: you can add your e-mail to cc field of a bug report. then you receive all status changes or added comments of this bug === ubijtsa2 [n=anders@213.208.70.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:44] well, i can do my own testing session [10:44] allee: I added a comment, that's enough ;) [10:44] if i can't crash it, it'll be beta == final ;-) [10:44] mornfall: cool [10:46] i get few breezy bugreports and some wishes [10:46] last time there were crash reports was 1.89 i think [10:55] allee: I also voted, so I no need of cc to receive changes ;) === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure is now known as luka74 === luka74 is now known as Lure === Lure is now known as luka74 === luka74 is now known as Lure === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.22] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:38] Riddell: ping === andred [n=snatch@62.75.169.150] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@karlsson.force9.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:44] Mez: hi === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.50.18] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.59.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:04] hehe! so my message to kubuntu-devel did work - it was just slow! [01:06] CC meeting [01:07] any kubuntu people up for anything at cc meeting? === Hobbsee doesnt know of anything [01:10] Riddell: me applying for membership [01:10] Riddell: I'll be there to support our allee ;) [01:10] :) === Hobbsee just discovered that lol [01:11] Hobbsee: don't laugh, please :) [01:11] sorry... [01:11] heh, heh :) === Hobbsee was laughing at herself, speaking without looking first, and then being proved wrong! [01:12] Hobbsee: I like the CC members. They also tend to be too late. Like me usually :) [01:12] ah ok [01:16] ping me when allee is up [01:16] 'k === Hobbsee thought that allee had been a member for ages! [01:17] Riddell: I have something about ubuntu locoteam === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] heh. i see that what i said got ignored in the CC meeting [01:28] Hobbsee: what [01:29] freeflying: *shrugs* - they were talkign about ops, and people in australia, and i just mentioned that I could probably do it, and am in australia [01:29] Hobbsee: pke Kamion [01:29] pke? [01:30] Hobbsee: poke [01:30] Hobbsee: :) [01:30] ah :P === Hobbsee pokes kamion [01:37] toma_: ping === Lure [n=luka@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:46] mornfall: is the "proprietry software" box in adept-installer for multiverse? [01:46] I can't get e.g. acrobat to show up === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:49] Riddell: yes (multiverse) [01:49] anyhow, gotta run [01:49] be back tonight [01:50] I didn't have multiverse enabled in sources.list was the problem [01:52] the big patch doesn't fix the kontact bug :( [01:52] Riddell: had the look at kopete ? [01:54] andred: ping [02:16] Riddell: ping [02:16] Riddell, raphink, Tonio_, Hobbsee: allee is up at CC [02:16] hehe [02:16] allee: I'm there already ;) [02:16] hehe :) [02:16] ditto [02:17] Hobbsee: congrats [02:17] freeflying: thanks :) [02:17] doesnt really make sense for me not to be an op there, if i'm already on the other ones... [02:17] ping? [02:18] ah, good :) [02:29] congratulations allee [02:30] kubuntu-team has oe more member now [02:30] you can join kubuntu-team wihtout being part of ubuntu-team, you know [02:30] yeah! That was quick. Not one question! I like time pressure to finish a meeting :) [02:31] hehe! [02:31] yeah, far less nerve wracking! [02:31] freeflying: I'm already on kubuntu-team [02:31] and no sorush20! [02:31] allee: I mean ubuntu member, :) [02:34] raphink, Tonio_ freeflying and Hobbsee-not-here: Thx for the gentle word and support! [02:35] allee: congrats :) [02:35] allee: that's the minimum we could be [02:35] allee: next step -> MOTU [02:35] allee: -->MOTu [02:36] I'll check MOTU requiremnet ... but first: === allee checks if there's somewhere, something, ANYTHING left to eat [02:36] bbl === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@rb1l189.chello.upc.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] ubijtsa2: pong [02:42] andred: hi there.. you were the one with kopete yes? :) [02:42] ubijtsa2: yes [02:42] is there a way to get it to stop popping up the requester about vcards ? [02:43] ubijtsa2: huh? don't know what you mean [02:43] I might be able to make a screen-shot === crimsun [i=nobody@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:46] one sec, got to stick it on a webpage [02:46] ok [02:48] andred: http://lenin.trudheim.com/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Trudheim/MiscStuff [02:49] I get loads of them.. for some reason [02:49] toma_: the patch in kdelibs for kontact doesn't work [02:49] ubijtsa2: ah. i don't know a solution but i read a bug report about it. one second... [02:50] andred: many thanks :) [02:50] ubijtsa2: you might want to watch this: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123216 [02:50] looking [02:51] that's the one.. if a contact comes online, that requester pops up [02:59] andred: I wonder if it has something to do with the 'global profile' [03:00] ubijtsa2: no idea, i don't have time to investigate further atm, sorry [03:01] np [03:01] just wondered if you knew :) === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] allee: YAY! [03:08] I completely missed allee at CC :( [03:08] but seems like he got in anyway :) [03:08] :) [03:08] Tm_T: Thx [03:09] Riddell: Long meeting and time pressure was on my side :) [03:10] meeting is still going on I seee [03:10] I expected some further question but there was none [03:11] you'll get the grill when you apply for MOTU ;) [03:11] allee: wasn't necessary for sure :) [03:11] crimsun: hehe, possible indeed [03:11]